TAMPA CITY COUNCIL BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 2024, 5:01 P.M.
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05:04:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS CITY OF TAMPA
05:04:37PM PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER FOR SEPTEMBER 3, 2024.
05:04:43PM ROLL CALL.
05:04:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:04:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:04:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
05:04:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
05:04:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:04:56PM ALL RIGHT.
05:04:56PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FY
05:05:01PM '25 MILLAGE RATE, BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR THE
05:05:07PM CITY OF COUNCIL?
05:05:07PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:10PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:05:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:05:14PM OPPOSED.
05:05:15PM THE FINANCE CHAIR READ THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING STATEMENT.
05:05:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: B 2025-2.
05:05:25PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED --
05:05:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
05:05:32PM NO, THAT IS --
05:05:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU GAVE ME SOMETHING I DIDN'T HAVE.
05:05:39PM CHAIRMAN, THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY OF
05:05:44PM TAMPA FISCAL YEAR BUDGET 2025 BUDGET.
05:05:46PM PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE IS 6.2076 MILLS WHICH IS 4% -- 4.00
05:05:53PM MORE THAN THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE OF 5.619 MILLS.
05:05:59PM PROPERTY TAX FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING
05:06:02PM BUDGET AND THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY.
05:06:05PM THE GENERAL FUND INCLUDES FIRE RESCUE AND POLICE, HUMAN
05:06:10PM RESOURCES, PARKS AND RECREATION.
05:06:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS NOT A MOTION.
05:06:17PM HE JUST HAS TO READ THE STATEMENT.
05:06:18PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:06:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE WELCOME.
05:06:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME, MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU
05:06:24PM PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR?
05:06:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD --
05:06:34PM [INAUDIBLE]
05:06:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S COMING.
05:06:47PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WHILE THEY ARE BRINGING IT UP --
05:06:58PM [NOT SPEAKING IN MIC]
05:07:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE TWO WORKSHOPS WE HAVE -- TO ANSWER
05:07:12PM QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, WE
05:07:15PM WILL GIVE YOU A PROMPT FOLLOW-UP.
05:07:18PM THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE BRIEF AND IT IS REALLY KIND OF A
05:07:23PM REFRESHER.
05:07:23PM NOTHING REALLY NEW.
05:07:24PM AND AGAIN TO GET EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED INCLUDING THE PUBLIC
05:07:28PM AS TO THE FORMATION OF THE FISCAL '25 BUDGET.
05:07:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THE PRESENTATION.
05:07:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:07:35PM AND HERE IT IS AGAIN, THE NET 2025 BUDGET IS JUST A LITTLE
05:07:44PM OVER $1.8 BILLION, AND THAT, ITSELF, IS A LITTLE OVER 3%
05:07:51PM FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
05:07:52PM YOU SEE OUR BREAKOUT OF THE FUNDS AND THE TWO LARGEST
05:07:57PM COMPONENTS WE TALK ABOUT QUITE OFTEN, THE ENTERPRISE FUND
05:08:00PM AND THE GENERAL FUND WHICH, AS USUAL, MAKES UP THREE
05:08:03PM QUARTERS OF THE CITY'S TOTAL BUDGET.
05:08:05PM IN THE NEXT BUDGET, WE BREAK IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER NEAR THOSE
05:08:12PM PARTICULAR FUNDS.
05:08:12PM GENERAL FUND ON THE LEFT.
05:08:13PM YOU SEE 60% OF THE BUDGET GOING TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
05:08:16PM THAT IS POLICE, FIRE AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
05:08:19PM CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.
05:08:21PM THESE ARE THE SUPPORT AGENCIES THAT KEEP THE CITY RUNNING
05:08:24PM BEHIND THE SCENES THAT INCLUDES MY SHOP, TECHNOLOGY AND
05:08:27PM INNOVATION, HUMAN RESOURCES, PURCHASING, AND NEIGHBORHOOD
05:08:31PM AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
05:08:32PM PARDON ME.
05:08:34PM OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND ECONOMIC
05:08:38PM DEVELOPMENT, WHICH INCLUDES THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
05:08:45PM ON THE RIGHT, THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT ARE RUN AS A
05:08:49PM BUSINESS.
05:08:49PM THEY ARE EXPECTED TO MAKE WHAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WOULD
05:08:53PM BE A PROFIT.
05:08:53PM OF COURSE ANYTHING THAT THEY MAKE IS FUNNELED BACK INTO THE
05:08:57PM SYSTEM FOR FUTURE NEEDS OR IMPROVEMENTS.
05:08:59PM AND, AGAIN, YOU SEE THE BIG TICKETS, THE WASTEWATER, THE
05:09:03PM WATER DEPARTMENT, THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT AND PARKING.
05:09:06PM TWO IMPORTANT DRIVERS THAT WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE REGARDING
05:09:15PM OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE ON THE LEFT.
05:09:18PM AS IT TYPICAL EACH AND EVERY YEAR, PROPERTY TAXES BY
05:09:22PM THEMSELVES WILL NOT PAY FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.
05:09:24PM AGAIN, THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE ABOUT HALF OF THE
05:09:28PM ENTIRE GENERAL FUND.
05:09:29PM ON THE RIGHT, THE IMPACT OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
05:09:34PM AGENCIES OR CRAs.
05:09:37PM YOU SEE NEARLY ONE FIFTH OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE REQUIRED
05:09:40PM TO BE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CRAs.
05:09:43PM NEXT YEAR, AS YOU SEE, THIS WILL BE JUST UNDER $54 MILLION.
05:09:47PM AN INCREASE OF NEARLY 6% FROM THE CURRENT YEAR.
05:09:50PM SO THE PROPERTY TAXES AVAILABLE ARE EVEN TIGHTER THAN THE
05:09:56PM INITIAL GLANCE WOULD LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE.
05:09:58PM WE HAVE 354.
05:10:00PM A LITTLE OVER $354 MILLION.
05:10:02PM BUT WE NET $300 MILLION.
05:10:05PM AND SPEAKING OF TYPE, COUNSEL WILL RECALL THAT THE INCREASE
05:10:10PM IN PROPERTY VALUES WAS ABOUT HALF OF LAST YEAR -- OR I
05:10:15PM SHOULD SAY THE CURRENT YEAR.
05:10:16PM THE CURRENT YEAR WE ENJOYED 12% INCREASE IN AD VALOREM
05:10:21PM VALUES.
05:10:21PM THIS YEAR 6%.
05:10:23PM AS WE ENTER THIS BUDGET PROCESS AND WE, OF COURSE, TALKED
05:10:27PM THIS BEFORE, WE MADE A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
05:10:29PM WE THOUGHT OF 8%.
05:10:31PM SO WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS CAME IN, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO CUT
05:10:35PM $6 MILLION IN GENERAL FUNDING RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
05:10:38PM FROM A GENERAL FUND PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS A PRETTY TIGHT
05:10:42PM YEAR.
05:10:42PM CONTINUING WITH THE GENERAL FUND, HERE IS OUR GENERAL FUND
05:10:48PM BALANCE, HISTORY AND ESTIMATES.
05:10:49PM I WILL KEEP THANKING YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF YOUR UNASSIGNED
05:10:55PM FUND BALANCE.
05:10:55PM AS YOU KNOW AND AS WE WILL CONTINUE TO REFERENCE, IT IS A
05:10:59PM SIGNIFICANT METRIC FOR THE RATING AGENCIES AND OF OUR
05:11:03PM FINANCIAL HELP.
05:11:04PM YOU SEE THAT OVER TIME, TAKING AWAY THE FEDERAL ASSISTANCE
05:11:11PM IN FISCAL YEAR '20 AND '21.
05:11:15PM WE HOVERED AROUND 23% OR 24%.
05:11:21PM AS THE BUDGET INCREASES AND TYPICALLY INCREASES EVERY YEAR,
05:11:23PM THE AMOUNT TO INCREASE THAT PERCENTAGE ALSO HAD TO INCREASE.
05:11:27PM YOU SEE WE IDENTIFY THE PROJECTION THIS YEAR OF 23%.
05:11:31PM AS WE CRAFTED THE BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE ALSO THINK
05:11:35PM WE WILL END AT 23%.
05:11:37PM AGAIN, AS SOME OF US HAVE TALKED, THESE ARE PROJECTIONS AND
05:11:42PM WE WILL SEE HOW WE END UP IN THE CURRENT YEAR A COUPLE OF
05:11:45PM MONTHS AFTER THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
05:11:47PM VERY HAPPY TO NOTE THAT THE 23% IS WELL AHEAD OF OUR POLICY
05:11:53PM FLOOR OF 20%.
05:11:53PM THAT IS ABOUT $19 MILLION.
05:11:56PM AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE AND I AM HAPPY TO SAY AGAIN, THIS
05:12:01PM PAINTS A VERY, VERY NICE PICTURE OF FINANCIAL CONSISTENCY
05:12:05PM AND HEALTH.
05:12:05PM ESPECIALLY GIVEN SOME OF THE VULNERABILITIES WE HAVE
05:12:10PM GEOGRAPHICALLY AND SOME OF THE VULNERABILITIES THAT REMAIN
05:12:14PM ECONOMICALLY.
05:12:14PM SO MY COMPLIMENTS TO COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR KEEPING THIS
05:12:20PM CONSISTENT BALANCE.
05:12:21PM THE SIX NEW POSITIONS BEING ADDED AND YET, WE WILL STILL
05:12:29PM REMAIN OVER 50 POSITIONS LESS THAN THE HEIGHT OF OUR
05:12:32PM POSITION COUNT DURING THE START OR THE BEGINNING OF THE
05:12:35PM GREAT FINANCIAL CRISIS BACK IN 2007.
05:12:38PM JUST UNDER 5,000 POSITIONS RIGHT NOW, AND, OF COURSE, I
05:12:43PM THINK THE SIX POSITIONS THERE ARE PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
05:12:47PM WE CONTINUE TO REFERENCE THIS AND HAVE CONTINUED TO
05:12:51PM REFERENCE THIS SINCE THE GREAT FINANCIAL CRISIS BECAUSE OF
05:12:54PM THE MASS EXODUS OF POSITIONS THAT THAT CRISIS FORCED.
05:12:58PM OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, FISCAL YEAR '25-'29.
05:13:07PM AGAIN JUST UNDER $1.7 BILLION.
05:13:10PM IT REMAINS VERY CONSISTENT IN THAT IT IS CONTINUING THE
05:13:15PM OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PROJECTS IN THE CURRENT FIVE-YEAR
05:13:19PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
05:13:21PM REMAINS NO SURPRISE, I THINK, THAT THE BIGGEST NUMBERS, THE
05:13:24PM LARGEST NUMBERS ARE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT AS
05:13:27PM WE CONTINUE THAT 3-ISH BILLION DOLLAR 20-YEAR PIPES PLAN.
05:13:35PM AND A VERY SIGNIFICANT SAFETY INCREASE OR INVESTMENT WITH
05:13:39PM FIRE RESCUE AS THE THIRD LARGEST CIP AT OVER $125 MILLION.
05:13:44PM GETTING INTO MORE DETAIL WITH OUR MAJOR CITYWIDE PROJECTS,
05:13:52PM BEGINNING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND
05:13:56PM OUR PIPES PROGRAM.
05:13:57PM AND YOU SEE THE SUBCOMPONENT OF THAT PIPES PROGRAM, THESE
05:14:01PM ARE THE MAJOR SUBCOMPONENTS AND EACH OF THEM HAVE PROJECTS
05:14:04PM WITHIN THEM.
05:14:05PM AND INTO TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION AND SOLID WASTE AND
05:14:11PM ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, I WILL HIGHLIGHT THE
05:14:15PM COMPUTER-AIDED DISPATCH AT THE TOP FOR THE FIRE RESCUE
05:14:19PM DEPARTMENT AND AT THE TOP OF THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, THE
05:14:21PM RELOCATION FROM SPRUCE STREET TO 34th STREET.
05:14:27PM AND THEN POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THE BOTTOM THERE, YOU SEE THE
05:14:32PM ANNEX BUILDING THAT WE DISCUSSED ON HOWARD AVENUE CONTINUING
05:14:40PM CITYWIDE AND CITY-WIDE BENEFITING PROJECTS, THE MANY
05:14:44PM PROJECTS AND MOBILITY AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION
05:14:47PM DEPARTMENT.
05:14:47PM AND DIVING INTO THE CIP PROJECTS BY DISTRICT, BEGINNING WITH
05:14:56PM DISTRICT 4 AND THEIR PARKS AND FLOODING PROJECTS.
05:15:00PM DISTRICT 5.
05:15:04PM INCLUDES THE EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX.
05:15:09PM DISTRICT 6.
05:15:13PM AND, AGAIN, I WILL HIGHLIGHT AT THE TOP THERE, THE WEST
05:15:17PM RIVERWALK PROJECT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNEX PROJECT.
05:15:20PM I SHOULD HIGHLIGHT FIRE STATION NUMBER 9, RENOVATIONS ALSO.
05:15:25PM AND, WELL, I GUESS I WILL HIGHLIGHT ALL OF THEM, RITA HOUSE,
05:15:30PM SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL IMPROVEMENTS, ALSO.
05:15:32PM DISTRICT 7, K-BAR RANCH PARK AND FIRE STATION NUMBER 24.
05:15:38PM AND, AGAIN, WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
05:15:45PM AND, AGAIN, IF WE CAN'T, WE WILL GET TO YOU VERY, VERY SOON.
05:15:49PM FINAL STEP IN OUR FISCAL YEAR '25 YOU SEE ON SCREEN, THE
05:15:54PM FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2024.
05:16:00PM AN A REMINDER THAT THE BUDGET IS AVAILABLE IN GREAT DETAIL
05:16:06PM -- VERY GOOD GREAT DETAIL, I MIGHT ADD -- I AM A LITTLE
05:16:10PM BIASED.
05:16:10PM IT IS A WONDERFUL DOCUMENT AND THAT THE LENGTH.
05:16:12PM THAT CONCLUDES MY VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION, COUNCIL.
05:16:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:16:21PM AT THIS TIME -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A ROUND OF QUESTIONS
05:16:23PM FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
05:16:24PM DO YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS NOW?
05:16:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY IF WE CAN HEAR FROM THE
05:16:29PM PUBLIC BEFORE WE START --
05:16:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS THE PROCESS SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS.
05:16:34PM NEXT WE WILL HEAR FROM HART.
05:16:35PM JUSTIN WILLITS.
05:16:36PM MR. WILLITS IS HERE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
05:16:38PM OUR BUDGET ANALYSTS, MISS KOPESKY WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION.
05:16:46PM FIRST ROUND OF COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND THEN OPEN
05:16:49PM TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL ASK COUNCIL FROM REFRAIN FROM
05:16:53PM MAKING ANY MOTIONS UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
05:16:55PM I HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS AND A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE.
05:16:59PM I KNOW IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY
05:17:02PM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE MAKE MOTIONS.
05:17:04PM AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM HART TO
05:17:07PM MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
05:17:08PM THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, MR. ROGERO.
05:17:13PM MR. WILLITS.
05:17:14PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: JUSTIN WILLITS, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING,
05:17:19PM HART.
05:17:19PM HERE TO PRESENT AS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL A PROPOSAL FOR ROUTE
05:17:22PM 1 FARE-FREE SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS.
05:17:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE IT PULLED UP ON OUR
05:17:28PM SCREEN.
05:17:29PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: I WAS ASKED TO KEEP IT UNDER FIVE
05:17:30PM MINUTES, SO THAT IS MY GOAL.
05:17:32PM I HAVE PLENTY OF MORE INFORMATION I CAN SHARE REGARDING
05:17:35PM TRANSIT, BUT I WILL RESPECT YOUR TIME.
05:17:38PM SO THIS -- THIS ORIGINAL REQUEST -- SO ROUTE 1, THIS
05:17:43PM ORIGINAL REQUEST CAME THROUGH TPO BOARD MEMBER THROUGH
05:17:47PM JOHNNY WONG AND THE TPO TO GET INFORMATION AND THIS IS HOW
05:17:51PM WE GOT GOING DOWN THIS PATH.
05:17:52PM A MOTION SEVERAL WEEKS AGO TO HAVE ME COME PRESENT.
05:17:55PM I HAVE ALL THESE THREE SLIDES.
05:17:59PM WHY ROUTE 1?
05:18:01PM COULD BE A GOOD INVESTMENT.
05:18:02PM A FUTURE BRT CORRIDOR.
05:18:04PM THE STREETCAR EXTENSION BOARDER.
05:18:07PM THE TOP PRIORITIES ON THE TPO LIST.
05:18:12PM APPROVED BY THE HART BOARD, THE.
05:18:15PM THE TPO, THE ACTING TPO TMA FOR LACK OF DESCRIPTION.
05:18:22PM SHYER RIDERSHIP ROUTE.
05:18:25PM ROUTE 6, OVER 3,000 PASSENGERS A DAY.
05:18:29PM AS I SAID A STRONG CONNECTION WITH THE STREETCAR.
05:18:32PM WE HAD A SURVEY.
05:18:34PM I WILL COME BACK A PRESENT THE STREETCAR RIDERSHIP.
05:18:38PM HIGHEST TRANSFER TO THE STREETCAR IS ROUTE 1.
05:18:42PM HIGHER SERVICE AND FASTER SPEEDS BECAUSE OF THE FARE-FREE
05:18:46PM ASPECT.
05:18:47PM REDUCE BOARDING TIMES FOR PEOPLE PAYING ELECTRONIC OR CASH.
05:18:50PM A BIG BENEFIT TO THE OPERATION AND GENERALLY PART OF THE
05:18:56PM COMPONENT IS A FREQUENT IMPROVEMENT.
05:18:57PM RIGHT NOW AT 20 MINUTES MOST OF THE DAY.
05:19:00PM IT WILL BUMP UP TO 15 AND THAT IS PART OF THE REQUEST.
05:19:04PM LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON ROUTE 1.
05:19:06PM WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF ROUTE 1, 32,000 RESIDENTS AND
05:19:11PM 56,000 JOBS.
05:19:11PM WITHIN A HALF MILE THAT PRETTY MUCH DOUBLES TO $64,000
05:19:17PM RESIDENT AND 100,000 JOBS.
05:19:18PM 18% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN THE CORRIDOR WITHIN A QUARTER
05:19:23PM MILE DO NOT OWN A VEHICLE.
05:19:24PM 26% OF PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE POVERTY LINE.
05:19:27PM 64% ARE MINORITY.
05:19:28PM AND 14% HAVE A DISABILITY.
05:19:31PM AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS A PRETTY DIVERSE POPULATION THAT LIVES
05:19:34PM ALONG THE ROUTE.
05:19:35PM IT HAS PRETTY GOOD SERVICE NOW.
05:19:36PM THIS PROPOSAL WILL MAKE IT JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND
05:19:39PM OBVIOUSLY A LOT MORE ACCESSIBLE BEING FARE-FREE.
05:19:42PM THE PROPOSAL IS TO BRING BACK THAT 15 MINUTES TOURING THE
05:19:47PM WEEKDAY.
05:19:49PM 6 A.M. TO 6 P.M. BASICALLY 15 HOURS OF SERVICE.
05:19:53PM THAT COST IS ABOUT $640,000 ANNUALLY.
05:19:56PM AND THE PROPOSAL TO MAKE IT FREE FOR ALL DAYS OF THE WEEK
05:19:59PM HAVE SEVEN DAYS OF A WEEK FOR A YEAR IS $840,000.
05:20:04PM THAT IS BASED ON THE CURRENT RIDERSHIP OF $1.1 MILLION, TIME
05:20:09PM THE AVERAGE FARE WE GET WHICH IS NOT $2 PER BOARDING A LOWER
05:20:13PM RATE BECAUSE THE WAY WE FARE CAP.
05:20:15PM I CAN ELABORATE, BUT I WILL SPARE THAT YOU.
05:20:18PM THE TOTAL COST COMES TO $1.483,900.
05:20:24PM ESTIMATED IMPACT IS OVER $300,000.
05:20:27PM ANNUAL TRIPS AND IN ADDITION TO THE $1.4 MILLION WHICH IS
05:20:30PM PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT THE STREETCAR IS PROJECTED TO HIT THIS
05:20:34PM YEAR.
05:20:35PM I WANTED TO KEEP IT QUICK.
05:20:36PM SO I DID THAT.
05:20:37PM AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:20:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
05:20:42PM YOU HAVE ABOUT $19 MILLION IN RESERVES, CORRECT?
05:20:46PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: OUR OPERATING RESERVE IS FOR 90 DAYS, SO
05:20:49PM WHATEVER A QUARTER OF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET IS OF $110 MILLION,
05:20:57PM I WOULD --
05:20:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK IT IS ABOUT THAT.
05:21:00PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: YEAH.
05:21:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS THAT THERE
05:21:04PM ARE OTHER ROUTES THAT ARE NOT FREE IN OUR CITY.
05:21:06PM AND IT IS REALLY ABOUT EQUITY.
05:21:08PM SO FOR US TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO
05:21:14PM OTHER AREAS IN TAMPA THAT COULD USE FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
05:21:17PM WE -- I BELIEVE BE DO ENOUGH.
05:21:20PM >> THIS WAS A PROPOSAL FROM COUNCIL, NOT BY HART, SO THAT I
05:21:25PM WOULD DIRECT --
05:21:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW.
05:21:27PM THIS IS OUR ONLY TIME TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:21:29PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: THE STREETCAR IS FREE.
05:21:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE STREETCAR IS FREE.
05:21:33PM YOU ARE RIGHT.
05:21:34PM THE STREETCAR IS FREE AND ACCESSIBLE -- PRIMARILY I RODE
05:21:38PM HART THIS WEEKEND AND I RODE THE STREETCAR.
05:21:40PM THE STREETCAR REALLY -- DOESN'T NECESSARILY COMPRISE WHAT
05:21:45PM YOU CALL RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
05:21:50PM TOURIST SYSTEM THAT IS FREE FOR A VERY SMALL PORTION OF
05:22:04PM COMMUNITY.
05:22:04PM MY CONCERN IS THAT EQUITY IS NOT THERE.
05:22:06PM I KNOW HART HAS SOME CHALLENGES BUT FOR US TO FOCUS ON ONE
05:22:10PM AREA AND NOT ADDRESS OTHERS IS JUST NOT SOMETHING I CAN
05:22:16PM SUPPORT AT THIS TIME.
05:22:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
05:22:21PM GENTLEMAN?
05:22:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THOUGHT -- ARE WE GOING TO DO QUESTIONS
05:22:25PM NOW OR WAIT --
05:22:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT UNTIL AFTERWARDS.
05:22:28PM ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO HIM OR WE CAN HAVE A --
05:22:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHO ASKED FOR IT TO COME TO NEWS IS.
05:22:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WAS ME.
05:22:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AFTER SOME THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION,
05:22:44PM THAT'S MY --
05:22:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU DIDN'T VOTE TO BRING IT.
05:22:50PM YOU SAID NO.
05:22:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DID SAY NO.
05:22:52PM SO I HAVE TO EXPRESS NOW IS THE TIME TO STATE WHY I AM NOT
05:22:57PM SUPPORTING IT.
05:22:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
05:23:02PM AND COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:23:03PM ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
05:23:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I WILL ASK IF YOU CAN.
05:23:08PM QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
05:23:09PM HOLD YOUR DISCUSSION AND THE COMMENTS UNTIL THE TIME OF
05:23:12PM AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE DISCUSSION WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.
05:23:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW.
05:23:17PM I APOLOGIZE.
05:23:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN, MIRANDA AND VIERA.
05:23:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO DO COMMENTS.
05:23:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN, MIRANDA.
05:23:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GOT IT.
05:23:29PM [LAUGHTER]
05:23:30PM SO I SEE YOU SAY THAT 64% OF THE PEOPLE WITHIN THIS AREA ARE
05:23:35PM MINORITY AND IT IS EQUITY ISSUE.
05:23:36PM COUPLE OF THINGS.
05:23:37PM ONE, HAS THIS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE HART BOARD?
05:23:41PM THIS PROPOSAL?
05:23:43PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: NO, THIS REQUEST CAME FROM COUNCIL, I
05:23:45PM BELIEVE, TWO WEEKS AGO.
05:23:46PM I DON'T THINK WE EVEN HAD A BOARD MEETING SINCE THEN.
05:23:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAVE YOU GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT -- I KNOW
05:23:54PM SOME OF THE ISSUE WITH THE SUN RUNNER AND THE FREE.
05:23:57PM FOLKS HOMELESS HAVE USED IT AS REFUGE FREE ROUTES AND CAMP
05:24:03PM OUT.
05:24:03PM DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT OR ISSUES WITH IT?
05:24:07PM IS IT GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC?
05:24:09PM >> THAT HAPPENS ON THE STREETCAR TODAY.
05:24:11PM IT IS NOT A MAJOR ISSUE.
05:24:12PM IT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT AND WE
05:24:16PM TALKED ABOUT IT ON THE STAFF LEVEL.
05:24:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COMFORTABLE YOU CAN RESOLVE THAT ISSUE IN
05:24:24PM YOUR ORGANIZATION?
05:24:25PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: YES, PLENTY OF MODELS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
05:24:27PM THE RIDERSHIP OF THE STREETCAR.
05:24:30PM MY SURVEY CHANGED MY PERCEPTION.
05:24:32PM MINE WAS SIMILAR TO YOURS OF THE TOURIST ASPECT AND MUCH
05:24:36PM MORE BALANCED THAN YOU WOULD THINK.
05:24:37PM IT IS BECOMING MUCH MORE OF A LOCAL ASSET AND LOCALS ARE
05:24:41PM USING MORE FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND JOB.
05:24:45PM WE HAVE THAT DATA AND I WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK WHEN WE
05:24:49PM CLEAN HAD UP.
05:24:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.
05:24:51PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: DIDN'T WANT TO LET THAT ONE SLIP.
05:24:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
05:24:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I WAS
05:24:58PM GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION THAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
05:25:02PM SPOKE ABOUT.
05:25:02PM AND THAT IS THE MASTER PLAN.
05:25:03PM I KNOW THAT WAS QUICK THING FROM US TO ASK YOU TO COME BACK
05:25:07PM AND GIVE US THAT INFORMATION.
05:25:08PM AND IF YOU DECIDED -- OR DO YOU KNOW OF ANY MASTER PLAN YOU
05:25:12PM HAVE TO IMPROVE THAT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE CALLED THE BUS
05:25:15PM SYSTEM AND THE WHOLE AREA?
05:25:17PM AND IS THE OTHER GOVERNMENT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAVE ANY
05:25:20PM -- ANY PLAY IN THIS TO HELP OUT?
05:25:23PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: SO WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING AN OPERATIONS
05:25:25PM ANALYSIS.
05:25:26PM WE ARE ABOUT TO KICKOFF OFF TO LOOK AT THE BUS SYSTEM
05:25:31PM POST-COVID BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN DEPTH.
05:25:33PM THAT WILL REDEFINE WHAT THE SYSTEM IS LIKE FOR THE NEXT
05:25:37PM THREE TO FIVE TO TEN YEARS.
05:25:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME TELL YOU WHY I ASK THOSE THINGS.
05:25:44PM I COME FROM PUBLIC HOUSING I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY THAT.
05:25:48PM ALL WE HAD WAS A BUS SYSTEM.
05:25:50PM AND FEDS CAME IN AND MADE A DEAL WITH THE CITY.
05:25:53PM I NEVER FORGET, HARRY ORR WAS RUNNING THE BUS SYSTEM AND BY
05:25:58PM THE ELEVATOR HE SAID IN ANY MIND, THE DAY YOU TAKE $1 FROM
05:26:02PM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU WILL TAKE SOMEBODY FROM WIMAUMA
05:26:05PM FOR A QUARTER.
05:26:05PM THAT IS WHAT HE TOLD ME.
05:26:07PM AND YOU ARE SMILING IN A WAY INSIDE I CAN SEE, I CAN READ
05:26:11PM THE LANGUAGE.
05:26:11PM SO I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.
05:26:13PM BUT THERE IS A LOT OF COST TO THAT.
05:26:16PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING, THE BUS THAT I TOOK WAS NUMBER THREE
05:26:19PM AND NUMBER FOUR.
05:26:20PM THREE AND FOUR WENT FROM ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN, ALL THE WAY
05:26:24PM TO YBOR CITY.
05:26:26PM AND UP TO 15th STREET.
05:26:28PM THREE KEPT GOING AND FOUR MADE A RIGHT AND THE HOUSING
05:26:32PM PROJECT.
05:26:32PM LEFT YOU OFF AT 26 AND 20th WHICH WAS RIGHT AT MY DOORSTEP.
05:26:37PM WE TOOK THAT -- I IS IT TO 57 AND 58 AND TEENAGERS $500 TO
05:26:46PM BUY A CAR.
05:26:46PM THAT IS HOW THAT STARTED.
05:26:47PM I SAY "TEENAGERS" PUT MY WAY BACK AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER
05:26:53PM AND I THINK OF THE TEENAGERS TODAY I THINK TO MYSELF, MAYBE
05:26:57PM THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.
05:26:58PM NOBODY USING THE STREETCAR WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG.
05:27:02PM THEY ALL HAVE CARS.
05:27:03PM WHETHER THAT IS GOOD OR BAD UP TO THE PUBLIC TO DETERMINE.
05:27:06PM NOT AN ANTI EVERYTHING.
05:27:08PM IT IS THAT THEY DID NOT USE IT.
05:27:12PM THEY ARE NOT USED TO IT.
05:27:13PM THEY ARE NOT USED TO THINGS THAT WE HAD THEN BECAUSE ALL
05:27:16PM MODERNIZE.
05:27:17PM I MEAN THEY TONIGHT TALK TO EACH OTHER.
05:27:19PM ALL THEY TO TEXT EACH OTHER.
05:27:21PM THEY DON'T KNOW NOBODY ANYMORE AND THEY KNOW THE TEXT
05:27:26PM NUMBER.
05:27:26PM HOW LIFE IS.
05:27:27PM I AM TRYING TO BE STRAIGHT UP WITH YOU.
05:27:30PM A DIFFICULT THING.
05:27:30PM AND IN MY LITTLE MIND, THE ONLY TRANSPORTATION THAT WILL
05:27:33PM WORK -- YES, THE BUS HAS BEEN GREAT UP TO A POINT, YOU WILL
05:27:37PM HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF LIGHT RAIL ELEVATED LIKE THE
05:27:40PM AIRPORT.
05:27:41PM PEOPLE USE IT BECAUSE YOUNG AND SMART AND DO SOMETHING FAST.
05:27:45PM AND I CAN'T DRIVE A CAR 25-MILE-PER-HOUR ON ANY ROAD.
05:27:48PM THEY WILL RUN YOU OVER.
05:27:49PM EVEN IF YOU WERE DRIVING A SEMI, THEY GO OVER YOU BECAUSE
05:27:53PM THAT IS HOW SATURDAY IS TODAY.
05:27:56PM RIGHT OR WRONG?
05:27:57PM I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
05:27:58PM BUT MY ANSWER IS THAT ARE WE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS
05:28:03PM FEASIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT RIDING.
05:28:06PM THE ONES -- THE ONES THAT ARE RIDING CERTAINLY NEED IT.
05:28:10PM DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT THE OTHERS HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO
05:28:14PM RIDE IT TO SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT IN A WAY.
05:28:16PM YOU CAN'T HAVE -- AND THIS WHOLE COUNTRY, THIS WHOLE WORLD,
05:28:19PM THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WITH THE CARBON DIOXIDE AND EVERYTHING
05:28:24PM AND THE GASOLINE CAN BURN.
05:28:29PM THAT IS WHY WE HAVE A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE IN AMERICA.
05:28:32PM WILDFIRES OR FLOODING.
05:28:33PM AND THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S FLOODING.
05:28:35PM SIDEWALKS AND PAVE THE ROADS.
05:28:39PM THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN THINGS THAT I HEAR IN THE LAST TWO
05:28:43PM MONTHS.
05:28:43PM AND I AM NOT HERE TO QUESTION YOU.
05:28:46PM I THINK YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
05:28:48PM BUT WE HAVE TO RETOOL OURSELVES TO THINK, WHAT ARE WE DOING?
05:28:51PM CAN WE PUT OUR MONEY INTO A BETTER USE?
05:28:55PM I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER AND I AM NOT IN THAT
05:28:57PM BUSINESS.
05:28:57PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND I KNOW YOU ARE HERE ON
05:28:59PM OUR REQUEST.
05:29:00PM AND I AM NOT MAKING YOU THE BLAME FOR ANYTHING, I AM JUST
05:29:03PM SAYING WE MUST THINK FORWARD IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF
05:29:06PM MINE.
05:29:06PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:29:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:29:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
05:29:09PM I WAS GOING TO MAKE COMMENTS.
05:29:15PM I AM NOT.
05:29:16PM I MOVED FORWARD WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE.
05:29:19PM THIS IS NOT A QUESTION OR COMMENT, IF THIS PASSES, INTERESTS
05:29:23PM TRUE WE HAVE A HART BOARD MEETING ON MONDAY, RIGHT?
05:29:26PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: YEAH.
05:29:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR BUDGET.
05:29:28PM WHAT I WILL DO AS THE CHAIR OF HART, A MEMO ASKING US TO BE
05:29:31PM BRIEFED ON THIS.
05:29:32PM I DON'T THINK IT IS A STRETCH TO SAY THAT THE HART BOARD --
05:29:35PM I DON'T -- LET'S SAY THIS.
05:29:36PM I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED IF THE HART BOARD DID NOT SUPPORT
05:29:40PM THIS, RIGHT.
05:29:41PM I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED.
05:29:44PM IN OUR CAPACITY AS A HART BOARD, I AM VEERING OFF TO
05:29:48PM COMMENTS THAT I WILL NOT DO, BUT I WILL MAKE COMMENTS ONCE
05:29:50PM THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, THANK YOU.
05:29:52PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: IF I CAN JUST ADD.
05:29:53PM WHEN I WENT -- STARTED BACK IN HART JUST A LITTLE OVER A
05:29:57PM YEAR AGO.
05:29:57PM ONE OF THE OFFICIALS THING THE BOARD SAID TO US AS STAFF, WE
05:30:04PM ARE WALL RUN BUT CRITICALLY UNDERFUNDED.
05:30:06PM OUR BOARD SAID ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO PARTNER WITH OUR
05:30:10PM COMMUNITY?
05:30:10PM AND I HAVE SPEARHEADED THE EFFORTS TO TRY TO FIND MORE
05:30:16PM FUNDING.
05:30:16PM ONE OFF WITH SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS.
05:30:20PM CITY STAFF HAVE FUNDING FOR CIRCULATOR FOR THREE YEARS.
05:30:23PM THAT APPLICATION FOR A PROJECT IS WITH A D.O.T.
05:30:27PM UNTIL THE CITY STEPS UP TO FUND BETTER BUS SERVICE WE WILL
05:30:34PM BE IN THE SAME POSITION AS WE WERE IN 1979 THAT IS MY
05:30:44PM OPINION.
05:30:44PM AND THE LIGHT RAIL PROJECT THAT WE ALL WANT DOWNTOWN TO THE
05:30:48PM AIRPORT, THE STREETCAR EXTENSION IS ALL GREAT PROJECTS AND
05:30:51PM WE ALL AGREE THEY SHOULD HAPPEN.
05:30:53PM WITHOUT A STRONG LOCAL BUS NETWORK.
05:30:56PM THEY WILL STRUGGLE AND THEIR RIDERSHIP PROJECTIONS STRUGGLE
05:31:01PM AND WHERE I STAND ON THE BUS SIDE.
05:31:03PM I HEARD YOU SAY THAT, COUNCILMAN, MANY TIMES, COUNCILMAN
05:31:07PM MIRANDA AND INGRAINED IN MY HEAD.
05:31:09PM I HAVE BEEN HERE 11 YEARS.
05:31:11PM YOU HAVE BEEN SITTING ON MY SHOULDER.
05:31:13PM BUT IT IS TRUE.
05:31:14PM IT'S -- AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE
05:31:18PM CITY DECIDED TO HAND OVER TRANSIT TO COUNTYWIDE AGENCY.
05:31:21PM AND THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT HAVE AFFECTED HART IN MY 11
05:31:26PM YEARS.
05:31:26PM ALL OF THAT HAS CONTINUED TO PLAY OUT.
05:31:28PM OUR MANDATE FOR 1,000 SQUARE MILES IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SERVE ON
05:31:32PM HALF A MILL.
05:31:33PM WE CAN NOT GET THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP TO CHANGE THAT.
05:31:36PM AND I ALWAYS VEERED OFF COURSE MYSELF, SO I'LL STOP THERE.
05:31:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:31:41PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:31:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
05:31:42PM WHEN YOU SAID THE CITY NEEDS TO STEP UP.
05:31:45PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ME.
05:31:47PM BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INTENTIONAL THAT THE HART
05:31:50PM SYSTEM WAS SEPARATE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:31:52PM AND THEY DID THAT FOR A REASON.
05:31:53PM SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO STEP UP TO DO?
05:31:57PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: WELL --
05:31:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN LAYMAN'S TERMS.
05:32:00PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: MOST TRANSIT AGENCIES, IF WE LOOK AT OUR PEERS,
05:32:05PM RIGHT, ARE FUNDED BY A VARIETY OF SOURCES COUNTYWIDE GAS TAX, A
05:32:08PM LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX.
05:32:11PM EITHER A LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX OR SOME CITY FUNDING.
05:32:14PM ST. PETE CONTRIBUTES $4 MILLION TO $5 MILLION TO PSTA.
05:32:19PM A VARIETY OF SOURCES.
05:32:21PM ONLY FUNDING FROM THE CITY THAT WE ARE GET SOMETHING CAPITAL
05:32:24PM IMPROVEMENTS FOR BUS STOPS AND SOME OF THE CODE LANGUAGE
05:32:27PM DICTATES THAT WE SHOULD GET BUS STOPS AS PART OF THAT
05:32:29PM DEVELOPMENT.
05:32:29PM CRA FUNDING FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THIS YEAR WHICH I AM
05:32:33PM GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF AND GRATEFUL TO STAFF FOR WORKING
05:32:36PM WITH US.
05:32:37PM NEVER BEEN A TRANSIT EXIT AT THE CITY.
05:32:40PM I MENTIONED THIS TO JEAN DUNCAN A DECADE AGO THE MANAGER,
05:32:45PM EVERY TIME I CAN BEND HER EAR.
05:32:48PM UNTIL THE CITY HAS EXPERTISE ON STAFF AND SKIN IN THE GAME
05:32:52PM OTHER THAN THE SMALL PORTION OF THE HART BOARD THAT EXISTS,
05:32:55PM I FEEL THAT THE AGENCY WILL STRUGGLE TO HELP THE CITY MEET
05:32:58PM ITS TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AND IN THIS PERPETUAL CYCLE WHERE
05:33:03PM THE CITY BLAMES HART AND HART HAS LITTLE ABILITY TO INCREASE
05:33:08PM FUNDING WITHOUT BROAD SUPPORT FROM THE CITY COMMISSION WHICH
05:33:11PM IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW AND COMPLICATED ANSWER TO
05:33:16PM THE QUESTION.
05:33:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I PUT MY MIC ON AND YOU SAID WHAT I WAS
05:33:21PM GOING TO SAY OF FUNDING WITH THE COUNTY AND ALL.
05:33:23PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS THAT ARE LISTENING HEARD WHAT
05:33:27PM YOU HAVE TO SAY.
05:33:27PM THAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS IS -- IT IS COUNTY.
05:33:30PM AND SO THE -- YOU KNOW, THERE ARE IS NOT A CITY THING.
05:33:34PM AND WE TRY TO WORK WITHIN THE LIMITED BUDGET THAT WE HAVE TO
05:33:38PM SUPPORT HART.
05:33:40PM BUT THE MILLAGE AN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT ALL FLOWS THROUGH
05:33:43PM THE COUNTY.
05:33:43PM OUR BUDGET IS SO SMALL, THAT -- THAT WE NEED A BETTER COUNTY
05:33:49PM COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT TRANSIT IN HILLSBOROUGH
05:33:51PM COUNTY.
05:33:51PM AND -- AND THAT -- THAT IS PERIOD, BLANK THE END.
05:33:56PM THE ANSWER IS NOT NECESSARILY.
05:33:58PM WE CAN PUT BAND-AIDS ON IT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:34:00PM BUT THE ANSWER IS NOT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:34:02PM IT IS IN THE COUNTY LEVEL.
05:34:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THIS A QUESTION?
05:34:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, THAT WAS A QUESTION.
05:34:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:34:10PM WE WILL GO TO -- WE WILL GO TO MISS KOPESKY'S PRESENTATION
05:34:16PM AND OPEN IT UP FOR THE FIRST ROUND OF CITY COUNCIL
05:34:19PM QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:34:21PM MISS KOPESKY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.
05:34:25PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: GOOD EVENING, HAGAR KAPESKY, CITY COUNCIL
05:34:32PM BUDGET ANALYST.
05:34:32PM I WILL MAKE THIS BRIEF, BUT A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT MIGHT BE
05:34:36PM WORTH BRINGING BACK TO THE GROUP.
05:34:37PM WE HAVE LIMITED OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT COLLECTIVELY.
05:34:39PM SOME OF THESE ARE VERY CASUAL AND I WILL BE PUTTING THEM ON
05:34:43PM ELMO, AFTER THAT A BRIEF PRESENTATION REGARDING THE PROGRESS
05:34:47PM WE MADE WITH THE TEAM ON PAVING AND SIDEWALK AND GETTING
05:34:52PM PREPARED ON HOW BEST TO ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS AND CHANGE SOME
05:34:55PM PROCESSES AROUND.
05:34:57PM SO, FIRST, LET'S TALK OF SOCIAL ACTION IN OUR SPENDING.
05:35:00PM I KNOW THAT WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED, THE INITIAL TIME WE SAW
05:35:04PM THIS ENCOMPASSED, I WOULD CALL IT TWO BUCKETS, SOCIAL, AND
05:35:10PM NOT-FOR-PROFITS, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA ASSETS WHICH ARE
05:35:13PM ESSENTIALLY THE CULTURAL FACILITY.
05:35:15PM WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON EACH OF THOSE.
05:35:18PM SEE IF I CAN GET THIS RIGHT.
05:35:20PM SO REALLY, I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS SUMMARY THAT
05:35:35PM HAS COME OUT OF MR. ROGERO'S DEPARTMENT, AND WHAT HAS
05:35:40PM HAPPENED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, SUBTLE CHANGES TO
05:35:43PM THIS.
05:35:43PM A BREAKDOWN OF THE $3 MILLION THAT THE CITY AT THIS POINT
05:35:48PM HAVE BUDGETED FOR 2025 FOR THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS
05:35:51PM FUNDING ORGANIZATIONS.
05:35:52PM THE REASON THAT THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS HIGHLIGHTED, THE
05:35:56PM YELLOW ITEMS INDICATE ITEMS THAT ARE NEW TO THE FISCAL YEAR.
05:36:00PM AND THE ITEMS IN BLUE REPRESENT ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE
05:36:04PM RECEIVED AN INCREASE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR.
05:36:05PM AND I AM GOING TO JUST KIND OF SCROLL HERE DOWN.
05:36:10PM AND I CAN MAKE THIS AVAILABLE TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING AS
05:36:13PM WELL.
05:36:13PM SO THE REALLY THE POINT IS, YOU KNOW, BE AWARE OF KIND OF
05:36:23PM THE COMBINATION OF WHAT IS ON THE LISTING, BUT ALSO, IN THE
05:36:28PM 3 MILLION, WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FOR WHAT WE CALL
05:36:31PM UNALLOCATED FUNDING WAS THE $125,000 THAT YOU SEE AT THE
05:36:35PM BOTTOM HERE.
05:36:36PM I WILL PUT MY PEN SIT HERE.
05:36:38PM THERE WE GO.
05:36:39PM THAT ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT HAS NOT BEEN -- I AM GOING TO USE
05:36:43PM THE WORD TAPPED INTO FOR ANY SPECIFIC ORG AND THE FUNDING
05:36:47PM AVAILABLE FOR THE BALANCE OF THE YEAR.
05:36:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT LARGER, YOU CAN.
05:36:53PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THANK YOU.
05:36:53PM I APPRECIATE IT.
05:36:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SURE.
05:36:56PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: WHERE THIS SITS WITH A PARTICULAR AREA.
05:36:58PM IT DOES GET A LOT OF ATTENTION.
05:37:01PM BEFORE I ROTATE OVER TO THE CITY ASSETS, ANY QUESTIONS ON
05:37:04PM THIS?
05:37:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WAS THIS YOUR
05:37:08PM MOTION?
05:37:10PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: IN GENERAL -- I THINK IT WAS A GENERAL.
05:37:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU SAID A LOT OF WHAT -- WHAT DID YOU
05:37:14PM SAY?
05:37:15PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I SAID -- JUST IN BETWEEN THE INITIAL TIME
05:37:18PM YOU SAW THIS ON JULY 18 AND NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL
05:37:22PM REQUESTS PUT IN WHICH ARE REFLECTED IN HERE.
05:37:24PM SO IN THE BEGINNING, JUST TO GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE, AN
05:37:30PM UNDERALLOCATED BOLE OF 2012 TO BE USED AND NOW THAT BALANCE
05:37:34PM IS DOWN TO 124.
05:37:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHOULD WE TAKE QUESTIONS NOW?
05:37:47PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: ON A PIECE BY PIECE, IT MAY BE EASIER NOW.
05:37:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EVERYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE BASICALLY
05:37:54PM ALREADY EXISTED, CORRECT?
05:37:57PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THERE WAS AN INCREASE TO IT.
05:37:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY DID IT INCREASE?
05:38:01PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
05:38:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
05:38:04PM DID IT INCREASE THROUGH YOUR OFFICE, MR. ROGERO?
05:38:10PM AT THE MAYOR'S REQUEST?
05:38:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: JUST A CLARIFICATION, THEY INCREASED FISCAL
05:38:22PM YEAR '24.
05:38:23PM FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
05:38:24PM I WILL HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT, MA'AM, IN TERMS OF WHERE THE
05:38:39PM ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR INCREASE IN FUNDING CAME FROM.
05:38:43PM WE CAN.
05:38:45PM WE WILL CIRCLE IT BACK TO YOU.
05:38:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CAN ONLY ASK A QUESTION?
05:38:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:38:53PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:38:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL.
05:38:57PM YBOR MUSEUM.
05:38:58PM DID THEY GET 150 LAST YEAR OR AM I WRONG?
05:39:02PM I THINK THEY DID.
05:39:03PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: ACTUALLY IT WAS 125.
05:39:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
05:39:08PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: 150 THE YEAR BEFORE.
05:39:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:39:12PM I SEE A LITTLE ONE OF VETERANS HELPING VETERANS AND MERCY
05:39:18PM PROJECT.
05:39:18PM A LOT OF PEOPLE ON COUNCIL -- DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION
05:39:21PM AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT TO INCLUDE THOSE?
05:39:23PM BECAUSE I SEE A LITTLE.
05:39:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF COUNCIL WANTS TO PROCEED, YOU CAN MAKE A
05:39:30PM MOTION --
05:39:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL INTEND IT FOR THOSE -- I WON'T MAKE IT
05:39:34PM NOW, BUT THAT'S IT.
05:39:35PM THANK YOU.
05:39:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO REDUCE SOME OF
05:39:38PM THESE FIGURES TOO.
05:39:39PM WE CAN DO THAT?
05:39:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN MAKE MOTIONS TO INCREASE AND
05:39:43PM REDUCE.
05:39:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:39:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
05:39:49PM BECAUSE I SPECIFICALLY.
05:39:53PM I HAVE GOT QUESTIONS RESOURCES FROM ZERO TO 20, WITH WHERE
05:40:02PM DID THAT COME FROM.
05:40:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL HAVE TO LOOK IF SOMEONE FROM COUNCIL
05:40:07PM OR CHAMBERS KNOWS WHERE THE REQUEST ORIGINATED.
05:40:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS ZERO ON '24.
05:40:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MUST HAVE HAPPENED SOME TIME DURING THIS
05:40:21PM YEAR.
05:40:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WENT FROM 0 IN '24.
05:40:24PM NOT BUDGETED AT ALL IN 2024.
05:40:27PM AND 120 BUDGETED IN '25 ACCORDING TO THE PAPER I HAVE IN
05:40:33PM FRONT OF ME.
05:40:34PM LIGHTHOUSE TO THE BLIND WENT FROM ZERO TO 50.
05:40:37PM YOU SHOW THAT AS AN ADD ON?
05:40:40PM YOU DO, OKAY.
05:40:41PM YEAH, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHERE -- WHERE DO THESE
05:40:47PM INCREASES COME FROM AND HOW DO THEY APPEAR ON THIS LIST.
05:40:54PM AND I -- I AM CURIOUS.
05:40:56PM IT IS INTERESTING YOU BROUGHT UP.
05:40:58PM I DON'T HAVE ANY SKIN ON THE GAME IN THE YBOR CITY MUSEUM,
05:41:02PM BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IN '22, THEY WERE AT 46.
05:41:06PM THEY WENT TO 50 APPEAR AND JUMPED TO 125.
05:41:09PM AND NOW JUMPING TO 150.
05:41:11PM YEAH.
05:41:12PM DO YOU MIND, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
05:41:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
05:41:15PM YBOR CITY MUSEUM HAD SEEN A CUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
05:41:20PM THEIR FUNDING GOT CUT FROM -- I THINK IT WAS -- I DON'T WANT
05:41:24PM TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, 150 DOWN TO THE $50,000.
05:41:27PM LAST YEAR WE GOT THEM UP TO THE LEVEL THEY USED TO BE AT
05:41:32PM WITH THE CONSENT OF COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION.
05:41:34PM THAT IS WHY THEY GOT THE INCREASE.
05:41:36PM THEY HAD A LOT OF MONETARY PROBLEMS.
05:41:39PM PEOPLE WANT TO SUPPORT THE GREAT WORK THAT THE MUSEUM DOES.
05:41:42PM THAT IS THE EXPLANATION.
05:41:43PM THEY USED TO BE AT A LEVEL AND WE GOT THEM BACK TO THE LEVEL
05:41:47PM THEY USED TO BE AT.
05:41:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE A TOUR TO
05:41:50PM UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE.
05:41:51PM BECAUSE WE HAVE A HISTORY MUSEUM -- TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE
05:41:55PM ARE DOING THERE BECAUSE I CAN'T SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT
05:42:00PM IT, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T.
05:42:01PM OKAY.
05:42:02PM THOSE ARE -- MY BIGGEST THING LEADERSHIP GOING FROM 0 TO 120
05:42:06PM JUMPS OUT AT ME.
05:42:07PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERS TO THAT.
05:42:09PM AND LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND, WHY IS THAT SHOWING UP FOR THE
05:42:14PM FIRST TIME.
05:42:15PM NOT THAT IT IS NOT AN UNWORTHY ORGANIZATION, BUT WHY IS IT
05:42:19PM SHOWING UP FOR THE FIRST TIME.
05:42:20PM EN WALDEN ACADEMY.
05:42:22PM I AM ASSUMING THAT MUST HAVE COME FROM YOU?
05:42:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:42:26PM SO PEPIN HAS A WELDING PROGRAM THAT HELPS YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
05:42:32PM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, VERY MINOR DISABILITIES TO BECOME
05:42:37PM WELDERS.
05:42:37PM BRIAN MARTINEZ, A GULF WAR VETERAN, A NICE GUY, DOES THAT.
05:42:42PM I WORKED OUT WITH THE ADVOCATES WITH PEPIN TO IMPROVE THE
05:42:46PM PROGRAM FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
05:42:47PM MINOR CONTRIBUTION.
05:42:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT PROGRAM AT THEIR CITY OF TAMPA
05:42:51PM FACILITY?
05:42:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY UNDERSTANDING IT WILL BE.
05:42:53PM THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, YEAH.
05:42:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE THEY HAVE ANOTHER CAMPUS.
05:42:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEY HAVE RIVERVIEW AND ETC.
05:43:01PM I WANT TO QUALIFY THAT.
05:43:02PM BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WILL BE.
05:43:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND MIRANDA.
05:43:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: CHIEF OF STAFF IS HERE.
05:43:09PM IF HE WOULDN'T MIND, IF I CAN ASK HIM A QUESTION.
05:43:12PM I THINK I THINK YOU LET -- I MAY BE INCORRECT, BUT YOU LED
05:43:18PM THE EFFORT SEVERAL YEARS TOO FORMALIZE THIS PROCESS A MORE
05:43:22PM STRINGENT PROCESS MORE BASED ON RESULTS, NOT BASED ON RANDOM
05:43:27PM REQUESTS.
05:43:27PM CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE STRATEGY THAT IS -- THAT YOU USE
05:43:30PM BEHIND THIS.
05:43:31PM AND WHY THESE FOLKS WERE PUT IN.
05:43:34PM AND WITHOUT GOING THROUGH EVERYONE INDIVIDUALLY, MAYBE JUST
05:43:37PM EXPLAIN WHY SOME MAY HAVE GONE UP AND DOWN.
05:43:39PM >>JOHN BENNETT: SURE, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
05:43:43PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:43:44PM GOOD EVENING TO THE PUBLIC.
05:43:46PM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHEN WE GOT HERE AND SAW IT WAS A
05:43:50PM FUN 200.
05:43:51PM AND NOT A LOT, BUT SOME OF THE ENTITIES WAS LIMITED
05:43:56PM CAPABILITY AND STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY.
05:43:58PM AND, OF COURSE, WE WERE A DISRUPTIVE WITH THE COVID WINDOW
05:44:05PM AND WANTED TO BRING MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND SCOPE OF WORK
05:44:08PM AND OF COURSE CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND THRESHOLDS HAVE TO
05:44:11PM MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS.
05:44:12PM PUBLIC RECORD REQUIREMENTS.
05:44:14PM AUDIT REQUIREMENTS.
05:44:15PM SOME JUST TO TIGHTEN ALL OF THAT UP AND TO MAKE SURE THAT
05:44:19PM THE CITY AND, OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION
05:44:24PM FEEL THAT THE MONEY COMING FROM THE PUBLIC TO THE NONPROFITS
05:44:26PM ARE PROVIDING THESE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ALIGN WITH THE
05:44:29PM COUNCIL'S VISION, OF COURSE, AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE
05:44:33PM CITY.
05:44:33PM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE UP OR REQUESTED TO GO UP,
05:44:36PM WHETHER THEY COME THROUGH COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION OR IN
05:44:39PM SOME CASES DIRECTLY TO THE CITY USUALLY HAS, OF COURSE, A
05:44:43PM NEXUS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE GOALS OF THE CITY.
05:44:46PM AND, OF COURSE, AS WE VET THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THROUGH
05:44:49PM THESE AGREEMENTS, THAT TRADITIONALLY GETS TIGHTER AND
05:44:52PM TIGHTER, AND IT IS -- AGAIN, ONE OF THE VISIONS THAT WE HAD
05:44:57PM IS TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE SUPPORT EITHER DIRECTING
05:45:01PM SOME OF THESE FUNDS TO EITHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OR OTHER
05:45:07PM OPPORTUNITIES TO -- TO HELP START-UPS AND SPREAD THE WEALTH
05:45:11PM OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEN, OF
05:45:15PM COURSE, OVER TIME, LET THEM KIND OF WEAN OFF OF THESE FUNDS.
05:45:18PM SO WE ARE STILL A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
05:45:22PM OF THE COVID DISRUPTION, BUT, AGAIN, AS WE GO ON AND ON, WE
05:45:26PM WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE PEST TURN ON THE TAXPAYERS'
05:45:31PM INVESTMENT FOR THE NONPROFITS.
05:45:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU TALKED OF ALIGNING A STRATEGY.
05:45:35PM IT WILL BE HELPFUL IN THE FUTURE AND INCLUDING THIS ONE TO
05:45:39PM CATEGORIZE THEM OF TOPICS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
05:45:42PM SOME WOULD PIT UNDER ARTS.
05:45:44PM WORK FORCE TRAINING, WHATEVER.
05:45:46PM IF THERE WAS PROBABLY NOT MORE THAN TEN BUCKETS BUT IDEALLY
05:45:50PM LIKE FIVE.
05:45:51PM AND SO IT WOULD SHOW THAT -- MY QUESTION IS, IF THAT IS
05:45:56PM POSSIBLE, CAN YOU SHOW IT US TO?
05:45:58PM WILL MAKE IT EASIER TO EXPLAIN IT TO THE PUBLIC.
05:46:01PM >>JOHN BENNETT: ABSOLUTELY.
05:46:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:46:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG THE SAME THING.
05:46:06PM I AM THROWING IT OUT.
05:46:08PM A PRO FORMA OF YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
05:46:11PM A WANT, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE NEED.
05:46:14PM THEY TURN IN -- WE HAD SO MANY VISITORS OR WHATEVER IT WAS
05:46:18PM THAT SO MANY CAME IN.
05:46:20PM SO MANY SETTLED AND WORKING ON SO MANY.
05:46:22PM WHAT IS GOING ON?
05:46:26PM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.
05:46:27PM ONE OF THE BASELINES INSTITUTED WAS THE LOGIC MODEL.
05:46:31PM LIKE A ONE-PAGE GRANT MACHINE STYLE APPROACH TO BRING MORE
05:46:35PM ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY TO THE NONPROFIT INTERFACE
05:46:39PM WITH THE CITY.
05:46:40PM SO THE TYPICAL MANAGED -- OUR RESOURCES ARE OUTPUTS AND
05:46:44PM OUTCOMES AND A DISCLOSURE OF WHERE YOU GET OTHER FUNDING
05:46:47PM FROM, WHERE YOUR STAFF LOOKS LIKE.
05:46:49PM WE WERE LOOKING TO PROVIDE MORE PROBLEMATIC FUNDING THAN
05:46:53PM STAFF FUNDING.
05:46:54PM WE ALSO KNOW THAT SOME STAFF LEADS TO BETTER WORKFORCE
05:46:58PM DEVELOPMENT AND SPRINKLED IN THERE, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA WAS
05:47:02PM TO USE THE LOGIC MODELS THE JUMP-OFF POINT.
05:47:08PM AND SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR THE FULL-BLOWN AGREEMENT AND
05:47:11PM QUARTERLY REPORTS TO GET THE TRANCHES IN QUARTERLY
05:47:14PM DISTRIBUTIONS FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE.
05:47:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANY TIMES OF AUDITS EVERY THREE YEARS OR
05:47:22PM SOMETHING?
05:47:23PM >>JOHN BENNETT: IN THE BOILERPLATE THAT LEGAL HAS WORKED
05:47:27PM WELL TO DEVELOP.
05:47:28PM AND EMBEDDED IN THAT REALLY THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT THE
05:47:31PM NONPROFITS ARE PROVIDING AND, AGAIN, TO THE OTHER POINT, HOW
05:47:35PM WELL ALIGNED THEY ARE TO THE VISION OF THE CITY.
05:47:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, SIR.
05:47:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:47:41PM YES, MA'AM?
05:47:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY, CHIEF, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND STAYING
05:47:45PM TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS.
05:47:46PM YOU SAID THERE IS A ONE-PAGE DESCRIPTOR THAT THEY HAVE TO
05:47:53PM PUT FORWARD?
05:47:54PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT IS WHAT WE STARTED WITH BEFORE IT WAS
05:47:57PM MORE BLOSSOMING THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
05:47:59PM PROVIDED THEM A TEMPLATE -- ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A ONE-PAGE
05:48:02PM GRANT BUT A LOGIC MODEL THAT WALKS YOU THROUGH, THESE ARE
05:48:06PM THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE OR NEED AND THESE ARE THE
05:48:09PM OUTPUTS WE WILL PROVIDE WITH THE EXPECTED OUTCOMES AND
05:48:12PM REPORT ON THAT QUARTERLY TO DEVELOP THE NEXT TRANCH OF
05:48:16PM FUNDING.
05:48:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THOSE ARE AVAILABLE?
05:48:20PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YES.
05:48:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WILL BE HANDY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE.
05:48:25PM IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO SEND US PDFs OF THIS.
05:48:28PM IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
05:48:30PM BECAUSE SOME OF US DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS GOES FOR AND WE ARE
05:48:32PM THE ONES ALLOCATING THIS FUNDING IT WILL BE GREAT -- AT
05:48:36PM LEAST I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK THROUGH THEM ESPECIALLY IF THEY
05:48:39PM ARE ONE-PAGERS.
05:48:40PM >>JOHN BENNETT: SURE.
05:48:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WILL HELP BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
05:48:44PM TO REALLY DETERMINE THE UNDERSTANDING.
05:48:49PM AT LEAST THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION OR MY ASK.
05:48:52PM I DON'T THINK I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.
05:48:53PM IT IS NOT MOTION TIME, BUT I THINK IT WILL HELP US TO
05:48:56PM DETERMINE IF THAT IS SOMETHING, MR. ROGERO.
05:49:00PM >>JOHN BENNETT: IF I CAN ADD JUST ONE QUICK THING.
05:49:02PM AGAIN, AS WE INTRODUCE THIS LOGIC MODEL AS PAPER TRANSPARENT
05:49:08PM INTERFACE OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY ARE ASKING, ONE OF
05:49:12PM THE MATURATION PROCESSES OF THIS IS TO DECENTRALIZE IT OUT
05:49:16PM OF THE CFOs OFFICE OF WHERE THIS ACCOUNTABILITY BEGAN AND
05:49:21PM DECENTRALIZE TO THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN THE DIFFERENT
05:49:24PM ROLES AND DEPARTMENTS WHICH ARE ALSO WORKING NO NOW ON THE
05:49:28PM EPISCOPAL OF SERVICES IN THE BIGGER BOILERPLATE.
05:49:32PM THIS HAS BEEN AN EVOLUTION OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND
05:49:34PM TRANSPARENCY, BUT I WILL LET THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER
05:49:39PM AUGMENT MY COMMENTS.
05:49:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
05:49:41PM WELL SAID.
05:49:42PM I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND
05:49:44PM CLARIFICATION WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT WHEN WE PROVIDE YOU
05:49:47PM COPIES.
05:49:47PM YOU KNOW, AS THE CHIEF SAID, IT HAS BEEN A DYNAMIC PROCESS
05:49:52PM GOING FROM A ONE -PAGER UNTIL BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR '25,
05:49:57PM EVERY NONPROFIT THAT RECEIVED MORE THAN $25,000 WILL
05:50:01PM ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT, AN AGREEMENT NOW.
05:50:03PM RIGHT NOW ABOUT HALF OF THEM DO.
05:50:06PM IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.
05:50:08PM THANK YOU.
05:50:10PM THIS IS THE LETTER DATED TODAY AND I WILL SEND IT OUT
05:50:18PM TOMORROW.
05:50:18PM THE CITY HAS AGREEMENTS FROM ALL AGENCIES REQUESTING FUNDING
05:50:22PM OF 25 OR GREATER.
05:50:23PM AS COUNCIL MOTIONS MOST FUNDING MUST BE APPLIED FOR ON AN
05:50:27PM ANNUAL BASIS AND SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE TAMPA CITY
05:50:30PM COUNCIL.
05:50:30PM SO WE HAVE PROGRESSED FAR FROM JUST ONE PAGE.
05:50:33PM UNLESS, OF COURSE FOR FISCAL YEAR '25, WE ARE GETTING LESS
05:50:40PM THAN 25,000.
05:50:41PM WHAT COUNCIL WILL GET WITH THESE COPIES ARE THOSE FEW
05:50:43PM REMAINING ONE-PAGERS.
05:50:45PM AND IF YOU WANT, THE AGREEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THE
05:50:50PM NONPROFITS.
05:50:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I PERSONALLY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
05:50:53PM AND THEN MY QUESTION BECOMES, HOW DO WE -- HOW DO WE MONITOR
05:50:58PM THE LESS THAN $25,000?
05:51:01PM OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE KIND OF GIVE AND SAY YOU HAVE THREE
05:51:04PM YEARS AND THAT'S IT?
05:51:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS OUR INTENT -- OF COURSE, WE ARE OPEN
05:51:10PM TO CONTINUE WITH THE ONE-PAGERS THE SAME WAY WE HAVE DONE
05:51:13PM WHICH IS A QUARTERLY REPORT AS TO THEIR PROGRESS BEFORE WE
05:51:17PM GIVE THEM A QUARTERLY PAYMENT.
05:51:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE ARE TRYING TO WEAN
05:51:23PM SOME ORGANIZATIONS OFF AFTER, I BELIEVE -- I DON'T KNOW
05:51:26PM WHERE THREE YEARS GOT IN MY HEAD.
05:51:28PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS NO NECESSARILY TRUE, BUT --
05:51:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND I -- I WOULD TRANSFER WEAN INTO PROVIDE
05:51:36PM MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER START-UPS, MEANING, KIND OF
05:51:40PM CREATE A DIMINIMUS PROCESS AND GUIDE THEM WITH TECHNICAL
05:51:44PM ASSISTANCE TO OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
05:51:46PM I HAD A GROUP PING US FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY OUTSIDE THE CITY
05:51:50PM OF TAMPA.
05:51:50PM AND I ALIGN THEM WITH OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT TO POINT TO
05:51:54PM THEM OF THEIR FUNDING SOURCES SO I THINK A JOURNEY OF
05:51:58PM SUPPORT WHERE THEY START OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, SEED MONEY AND
05:52:02PM WORK ITS WAY DOWN OPPOSED TO BECOMING SO CONSISTENT WE AVOID
05:52:11PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER NONPROFITS TO BE ENGAGED.
05:52:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SEE REALLY BIG NAMES ON THE LIST.
05:52:16PM AND I KIND OF QUESTION WHY FOLKS ARE STILL GETTING -- SO THE
05:52:21PM SOME POINT, WE WANT THE MONEY TO GO TOWARD SMALLER MORE --
05:52:24PM THAT IS WHY I AM INTERESTED IN READING THIS DOCUMENTATION TO
05:52:27PM SEE HOW WE GO FURTHER.
05:52:29PM THANK YOU.
05:52:30PM THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
05:52:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND THEN
05:52:33PM CLENDENIN.
05:52:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DR. CHIEF, YOU KNOW WE HAD EXTENSIVE
05:52:37PM CONVERSATIONS OF THIS PARTICULAR LIST.
05:52:39PM A VERY SMALL PORTION OF OUR BUDGET, BUT IT REALLY MATTERS
05:52:42PM BECAUSE SUPPORTING LOCAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THE THING
05:52:51PM THAT CAME UPON OUR DESK, VOTED ON THE NAACP.
05:52:55PM SOLIDIFIED AN AGREEMENT AND CAME ACROSS OUR DESK AND WE
05:53:00PM VOTED ON IT.
05:53:01PM WE ALSO VOTED ON COMMUNITY STEPPING STONES.
05:53:04PM WE DON'T HAVE THAT AGREEMENT -- YOU PUT THAT LETTER DOWN.
05:53:07PM WE DON'T HAVE AGREEMENTS FOR EVERYTHING ON THIS PAGE, AND
05:53:10PM YET THEY ARE STILL GETTING THIS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
05:53:13PM FUNDING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
05:53:15PM FOR EXAMPLE, ESPECIALLY -- AND IT IS NOT THE $25,000 THAT
05:53:19PM BOTHERING ME, THE $200,000 ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
05:53:25PM REPEATEDLY BEEN ON THIS LIST AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY
05:53:28PM AGREEMENTS.
05:53:28PM AND PUT NAACP THROUGH THIS AND QUESTIONS.
05:53:37PM NO ONE HAS QUESTIONED THE LARGER AMOUNTS GOING AFTER THESE
05:53:41PM ORGANIZATIONS JEER AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AND NO AGREEMENT IN
05:53:44PM PLACE.
05:53:45PM SOME THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED.
05:53:49PM SHOULD BE AN ASTERISK BY EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT DOES NOT
05:53:53PM HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH US OVER $25,000.
05:53:55PM IF THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING, GO AHEAD AND IDENTIFY WHO
05:53:58PM DOESN'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE VOTE FOR THEM.
05:54:01PM AND THEY DID HAVE TO DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO COME TO
05:54:04PM THE TABLE TO GET WHAT THEY GOT.
05:54:05PM REMEMBER THEY WERE HERE LAST WEEK.
05:54:07PM WE MOVED THE RESOLUTION AND THEY WERE KIND OF CONCERNS
05:54:10PM BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET READY TO NOT GIVE
05:54:12PM IT TO THEM.
05:54:13PM AND WE HAD TO EXPLAIN NO THIS IS THE TIME -- THAT IS HOW
05:54:16PM LONG IT HAS TAKEN.
05:54:17PM BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE ON THIS LIST AND DON'T HAVE AGREEMENTS
05:54:21PM AT ALL AT MUCH HIGHER FIGURES.
05:54:22PM SO CAN YOU -- WILL YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH AN
05:54:29PM ASTERISK OF OVER ORGANIZATION OVER $25,000 THAT DOES NOT
05:54:32PM HAVE AN AGREEMENT?
05:54:33PM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT CORAL BRODY IS WORKING ON THOSE.
05:54:36PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YES.
05:54:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE SHOULD KNOW THE POSITION OF THOSE
05:54:40PM BECAUSE HOW CAN WE MAKE A GOOD DECISION AND GIVE AWAY
05:54:44PM ANOTHER $200,000 FOR AN ORGANIZATION -- THESE ORGANIZATIONS
05:54:47PM HAVE GOTTEN THIS MONEY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
05:54:49PM AND NO ONE -- IT PREDATES EVEN YOU ALL.
05:54:52PM THEY ARE ON THE LIST.
05:54:53PM THEY MADE THE LIST.
05:54:54PM AND NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN ANY OF THAT.
05:54:58PM WHY ARE THEY AT THESE LEVELS AND WHY ARE WE CONTINUING TO DO
05:55:01PM IT WITHOUT AGREEMENTS AND THEY ARE OVER A CERTAIN DOLLAR
05:55:06PM FIGURE WHERE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REARED TO COME BEFORE US
05:55:08PM TO GET THEIR FUNDING.
05:55:09PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THE ADMINISTRATION AGREES WITH YOU
05:55:13PM COMPLETELY ON THAT.
05:55:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY, GOOD.
05:55:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND MIRANDA.
05:55:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL START WITH A FOLLOW-UP THAT
05:55:21PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON -- POINT-BLANK, WHY DON'T THESE
05:55:24PM ORGANIZATIONS -- WHY AREN'T THEY HELD AT THE SAME STANDARD
05:55:27PM AND AGREEMENTS WITH THEM?
05:55:29PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JUST AS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER -- A
05:55:32PM JOURNEY TO GET TO THE SUBJECT MATTER DEPARTMENTS TO WORK
05:55:34PM WITH HEEL WHEN THE BOILERPLATE CAME OUT FOR THE AGREEMENTS
05:55:40PM $25,000.
05:55:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT HAS BEEN AT LEAST A YEAR.
05:55:43PM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE COMMUNICATIONS
05:55:46PM DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO WORK WITH THE ONES $ 00,000 AND FIGURE
05:55:49PM OUT WHAT THEIR SCOPE OF SERVICES ARE.
05:55:51PM THEY HAVE BEEN ENGAGED OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHAT THEY WILL
05:55:54PM CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY.
05:55:54PM AS THESE AGREEMENTS DEVELOP, THE SCOPE OF SERVICES --
05:55:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU KNOW HOW YOU GET THEM REALLY QUICK?
05:56:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CUT THEIR FUNDING.
05:56:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU JUST READ MY MIND.
05:56:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND I PLAN TO DO THAT.
05:56:07PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THE FUNDING INCREASES CAME FROM THE CHAMBER.
05:56:11PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON TO GET THE SCOPE OF SERVICES
05:56:14PM DOWN TO --
05:56:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO QUESTION FOR YOU.
05:56:17PM I SEE IN JUST THE LAST THREE YEARS THESE FUNDS HAVE NEARLY
05:56:21PM DOUBLED.
05:56:21PM AND JUST -- A VERY SHORT -- A BLINK OF AN EYE, A COUPLE OF
05:56:26PM YEARS.
05:56:26PM HAVE YOU ALL CONSIDERED CAPPING THE GROWTH OF THIS FUND --
05:56:35PM OR CAP THE GROWTH OF THIS FUND.
05:56:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THOUGHT IT WAS $5 MILLION THE FIRST
05:56:39PM YEAR, AT THE BEGINNING.
05:56:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO YOU KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME OF
05:56:43PM THESE REASONS WE HAD TO FUND THESE SOURCES BECAUSE STOPPED
05:56:50PM FUNDING AND THE COUNTY STOPPED FUNDING.
05:56:52PM THINKING OF THAT --
05:56:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: POINT WELL TAKEN.
05:56:55PM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT BEFORE YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD ANY
05:56:58PM FURTHER.
05:56:59PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, WE ARE LIKE, MAN, WE
05:57:02PM ARE COUGHING UP SOME COIN FOR SOME OF THESE ORGANIZES.
05:57:05PM AND PROBABLY SOME OF MY MISGIVINGS, BECAUSE I HAD TO GOOGLE
05:57:09PM WHAT SOME ORGANIZATION WAS.
05:57:11PM I NEVER HEARD OF THIS ORGANIZATION AND GIVING THEM MONEY.
05:57:14PM LITERALLY WHILE I WAS DOWN HERE GOOGLING.
05:57:17PM WHO THE HECK IS THIS.
05:57:18PM I MEAN -- I GUESS THAT'S IT.
05:57:21PM THANK YOU.
05:57:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:57:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT'S GOOGLE?
05:57:26PM [LAUGHTER]
05:57:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNDER ABACUS.
05:57:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY THIS.
05:57:38PM MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO BE ON THE SAME
05:57:40PM PAGE AS THOSE HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE TO MEET THE
05:57:43PM OBLIGATION WITHIN SIX MONTHS OR SOMETHING.
05:57:45PM AND WE ARE NOT PUTTING THE BURDEN ON US.
05:57:47PM WE ARE PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THEM.
05:57:49PM THAT WAY -- I WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS.
05:57:52PM I DON'T THINK IT IS PROPER FOR ME TO CRITICIZE SOMEBODY WHO
05:57:55PM HAS OR DOESN'T HAVE IT.
05:57:56PM I DON'T KNOW THE INTAKE AND THE OUTTAKES OF THE WHOLE THING.
05:57:59PM I THINK THAT WILL SOLVE THE WHOLE PROBLEM.
05:58:02PM I AM NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT TO HAVE EVERYBODY SEE
05:58:05PM THROUGH THE SAME LENSES IT OUGHT TO BE CLEARED UP SO
05:58:10PM EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
05:58:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND WHATEVER --
05:58:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, WE CAN'T --
05:58:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. BRODY IS HERE AND CAN TELL US THE
05:58:19PM AGREEMENT --
05:58:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION --
05:58:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BUT HE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.
05:58:24PM HE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION, BECAUSE HE IS HERE.
05:58:26PM >>CARL BRODY: CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT I CAN'T TELL
05:58:32PM YOU EXACTLY WHO HAS THEM, UNFORTUNATELY.
05:58:33PM WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ON A RULE-IN BASIS.
05:58:35PM DEPENDING ON WHEN THE INITIAL AGREEMENT WAS.
05:58:39PM LET'S SAY IT STARTED IN AUGUST.
05:58:41PM YES, THEY CAN BE UP TO DATE.
05:58:43PM WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATED AGREEMENT.
05:58:45PM IF IT STARTED IN DECEMBER, AND IT IS A YEAR LONG, AT THE END
05:58:49PM OF THAT YEAR PERIOD, THEN THEY WILL BE UP THERE WITH THE NEW
05:58:52PM AGREEMENT.
05:58:52PM THAT IS WHERE IT CAME IN.
05:58:55PM IT HAD ITS AGREEMENT DUE.
05:58:58PM SO WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
05:59:01PM MORE RECENTLY WE SAW WE HAD THE STRAZ CENTER.
05:59:05PM AND THEY HAD ONE THAT CAME THROUGH.
05:59:07PM AND WE ALSO HAD THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA THAT HAD ONE COME
05:59:11PM THROUGH LAST YEAR.
05:59:12PM AND ALL BASED ON THE ANNUAL REAPPOINTMENT OR ADJUSTMENT OF
05:59:23PM AFFIDAVIT AGREEMENT.
05:59:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS CONFUSING TO ME.
05:59:26PM LAST AGREEMENT WITH THE NAACP WHEN FRANK REDDICK WAS IN THIS
05:59:33PM CHAIR.
05:59:33PM HOW LONG AGO IS THAT?
05:59:35PM TWO COUNCILMEMBERS DISTRICT 5 -- THAT IS AT LEAST 10, 12
05:59:39PM YEARS AND IT WAS BECAUSE THEY GOT A LARGER AMOUNT AND THAT
05:59:43PM IS WHY THEY HAD A NEW AGREEMENT?
05:59:46PM >>CARL BRODY: THEIRS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY.
05:59:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FROM $7,000 TO $100,000.
05:59:52PM >>CARL BRODY: CORRECT.
05:59:53PM DURING THAT PERIOD WE WERE UPDATING AGREEMENTS.
05:59:56PM THEY MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FIRST SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS
06:00:05PM FUNDING THAT WE DID TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT SET OF TERMS.
06:00:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL ASK YOU AN EASIER QUESTION.
06:00:09PM ANYBODY WITH A $200,000 EAR MARK, DO THEY HAVE AGREEMENTS
06:00:13PM WITH US ALREADY THAT ARE IN PLACE, THAT ARE CURRENT?
06:00:16PM >>CARL BRODY: IF THEY DON'T, THEY WILL ON THE NEXT CYCLE.
06:00:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BUT ANYONE THAT CURRENTLY HAS THAT?
06:00:22PM >>CARL BRODY: I DON'T LOOK AT THAT SIDE.
06:00:23PM I LOOK AT THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT.
06:00:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU SOUND LIKE A LAWYER.
06:00:27PM THANK YOU.
06:00:27PM >>CARL BRODY: THANK YOU.
06:00:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:00:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT
06:00:33PM THE CONCERN FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE NAACP ONE IS ONE
06:00:37PM THEY WERE SINGLED OUT.
06:00:38PM SECOND, IT TOOK SO LONG.
06:00:41PM THEY FELT LIKE THAT AGREEMENT APPROVED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
06:00:45PM SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED A YEAR AGO.
06:00:47PM SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO SPEED UP THE PROCESS,
06:00:51PM YOU MIGHT LET US KNOW.
06:00:52PM WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, MR. CHIEF OF STAFF, YOU DON'T HAVE
06:00:55PM TO GET UP, BUT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL GOING FORWARD IF WE HAVE
06:01:00PM MAYBE IN A WORKSHOP.
06:01:02PM IF -- IF YOUR TEAM TAKES US THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT YOU ARE
06:01:05PM PROPOSING, MAYBE GO SOME INPUT FROM US AND THE PUBLIC, SO
06:01:10PM THERE IS TRANSPARENCY TO IT AND TO AND FRO SO WE CAN AVOID
06:01:16PM HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN THE FIRST HEARING AND BE MORE
06:01:19PM STRATEGIC FOR NEXT YEAR.
06:01:21PM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE ARE OPEN TOE THAT AND A METHODOLOGICAL
06:01:25PM APPROACH TO FITS ALL OUR NEEDS AND GETTING AGREEMENTS IN
06:01:29PM PLACE THAT COP PORTS WITH THE CODE.
06:01:32PM WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THERE.
06:01:33PM WE ARE TRYING MOVE THIS ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND
06:01:38PM MOST IMPORTANTLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE BROADEST WAY BOB.
06:01:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:01:43PM MISS KOPESKY, DO YOU HAVE MORE TO YOUR PRESENTATION?
06:01:48PM >> YES.
06:01:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE GOOD STUFF YET.
06:01:52PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: AT THE BEGINNING, I SAID WHEN FIRST STARTED
06:01:56PM LOKING AT AID FUNDING.
06:01:57PM I CALLED IT --
06:01:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT IT DOWN BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE.
06:02:00PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I SEE THAT.
06:02:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEND IT OUT SLIGHTLY.
06:02:05PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: NEWBIE.
06:02:06PM ALL RIGHT.
06:02:07PM SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED REVIEWING AID FUNDING, WE TALKED OF
06:02:13PM TWO BUCKETS.
06:02:13PM THE SECOND ONE WAS THE CITY OF TAMPA ASSETS OR WHAT I REFER
06:02:18PM TO AS THE CULTURAL FACILITIES.
06:02:20PM IN LIGHT OF THE FACT WE WERE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS,
06:02:23PM I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GIVE SOMEONE A SNAPSHOT OF THE
06:02:27PM TOTALITY OF THAT.
06:02:28PM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, INITIALLY WHEN WE DISCUSS IT, WE TALKED OF
06:02:32PM THE NONDEPARTMENTAL, THE GENERAL FUND.
06:02:35PM AND SO, I THINK WHEN COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID WASN'T THE
06:02:39PM NUMBER BIGGER, THE FUNDING AS WELL THE PORTION THAT YOU
06:02:43PM WOULD SEE IN THIS FIRST COLUMN CALLED NONDEPARTMENTAL, SO
06:02:46PM FOR THOSE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.
06:02:48PM SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST WALK THROUGH AND SHOW, YOU KNOW
06:02:55PM THE MONEY IS DISPERSED IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
06:02:58PM MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A CURRENT ACTIVE LOAN WITH
06:03:01PM THE AQUARIUM.
06:03:02PM IN '25, THE PAYMENT OF THAT LOAN WOULD BE $7 MILLION AND I
06:03:06PM WILL CONTINUE FROM LEFT TO RIGHT ENTERPRISE FUND, MOBILITY
06:03:12PM AND PARKING $123,000, AGAIN, TO THE STREETCAR IN ADDITION TO
06:03:18PM THE GENERAL FUND.
06:03:19PM CRA PROVIDES SEVERAL CONTRACTS OF FUNDING AND SPECIFICS ARE
06:03:24PM NOTED OFF TO THE RIGHT.
06:03:25PM BUT WHEN YOU PUT THOSE -- EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR THESE --
06:03:28PM ONE, TWO, THREE, FIVE -- NINE ORGANIZATIONS, $27 MILLION.
06:03:33PM THIS IS JUST TO LEVEL SET EVERYONE ON COMMITMENT AND WHAT WE
06:03:37PM HAVE DONE.
06:03:37PM THAT IS THE TOTALITY OF IT.
06:03:39PM ANY QUESTIONS?
06:03:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
06:03:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST QUICK QUESTION, 72. 35.
06:03:54PM WHAT IS THE TOTALITY OF THE -- I GUESS SOCIAL ACTION?
06:03:59PM >> THE ONE WE JUST WENT OVER IS $3 MILLION.
06:04:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY?
06:04:06PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: 3.
06:04:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 27945.
06:04:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THREE.
06:04:11PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:04:12PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: SO NEXT --
06:04:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF OF STAFF, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
06:04:18PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: ARE YOU COMMENTING ON THIS?
06:04:20PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JUST ON THE SOCIAL ACTION.
06:04:22PM A SIDEBAR WITH LEGAL MORN FOR THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC TO
06:04:27PM HEAR, GOING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR NO SOCIAL AGREEMENT THAT
06:04:31PM WILL GET A DOLLAR WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
06:04:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 25,000 LEVEL.
06:04:35PM ALL OF THEM WILL NEED AN AGREEMENT.
06:04:37PM >>JOHN BENNETT: ABOVE $25,000.
06:04:39PM WE NEED AN AGREEMENT GOING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR.
06:04:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:04:44PM THAT WAS VERY CLEAR.
06:04:44PM YES, SIR?
06:04:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
06:04:47PM CHIEF BENNETT, THAT OVER $25,000 OR $25,000 AND OVER.
06:04:53PM >>JOHN BENNETT: $25,000 AND OVER.
06:04:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: SOMEONE AT $25,000, WE PUT THEM AT 24 --
06:05:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO, NO.
06:05:03PM >>JOHN BENNETT: GO TO 24 NOW, 999.
06:05:09PM >> MOVING ON, I WILL ASK THAT THE PRESENTATION I PROVIDED BE
06:05:13PM BROUGHT UP, PLEASE.
06:05:13PM SO ANOTHER TOPIC NEAR AND DEAR TO THIS GROUP'S HEART IS
06:05:20PM RESURFACING AND SIDEWALKS.
06:05:21PM AND SO -- HERE WE GO.
06:05:24PM IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, MR. ROGERO, MR. BHIDE AND I ARE
06:05:33PM MEETING OUR ARMS HOW TO PUT THIS PROCESS IN PLACE.
06:05:36PM I JUST WANT TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH.
06:05:38PM SO WHEN WE MET, WHAT WE HAD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW,
06:05:42PM HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEFINE THIS?
06:05:45PM BECAUSE WE KNOW A LOT OF ROADWORK THAT GETS DONE.
06:05:47PM WHEN WE HEAR THIS DISCUSSION, WE KNOW -- WE BELIEVE THAT
06:05:50PM WHAT IS REALLY BEING DISCUSSED OFTEN IS THE ANNUAL ONGOING
06:05:53PM RESURFACING MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR.
06:05:56PM YMCA IS THIS IMPORTANT?
06:05:58PM BECAUSE WE NEED TO ISOLATE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND
06:06:00PM KNOW HOW THIS PLAN FOR IT.
06:06:01PM AND MEASURE IT.
06:06:02PM SO ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT I THINK HAS BEEN
06:06:06PM DISCUSSED WITH THE GROUP OF FOUR IS, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A
06:06:10PM LOT OF OTHER RESURFACING THAT GOES ON.
06:06:12PM SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY,
06:06:15PM YES, THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER PROJECTS IN TRANSPORTATION.
06:06:18PM THERE ARE GOING TO BE RIGOROUS -- ROAD RESURFACING THAT WILL
06:06:23PM BE NECESSARY, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A STORMWATER PROJECT.
06:06:25PM THOSE DO OCCUR AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
06:06:27PM BUT, AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK TODAY OF ANNUAL RESURFACING AND
06:06:31PM WHERE WE WANT TO THROW THAT, LET'S PUT OUR FOCUS ON THE ONES
06:06:34PM WE WANT TO CONSIDER AGAIN.
06:06:36PM ANNUAL RECURRING TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS.
06:06:39PM SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DID REQUEST MR. BHIDE IS TO
06:06:43PM GIVE US WHAT WOULD BASICALLY ENCOMPASS HIS MAXIMUM ANNUAL
06:06:48PM CAPACITY TO DO WORK ON ROAD RESURFACING AND SIDEWALKS.
06:06:52PM WE WILL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.
06:06:56PM IN ADDITION, WE ALL HAVE THE CAPITAL PLAN FOR 2025, EMBEDDED
06:07:01PM IN THERE ARE TOMB RUSS PROJECT ID NUMBERS.
06:07:06PM IDENTIFYING WHICH ONES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WILL BE
06:07:08PM ESSENTIAL OF UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH THEM.
06:07:10PM TO GET RIGHT DOWN TO CAPACITY, BROKE THESE INTO THE BUCKET.
06:07:15PM WE HAVE RESURFACING THE ROAD WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO WITH
06:07:18PM CONTRACTORS.
06:07:18PM WE HAVE RESURFACING THAT CAN BE PERFORMED WITH THE INTERNAL
06:07:23PM TEAM.
06:07:23PM AND -- COME ON, FEEL FREE.
06:07:26PM AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT VIK HAS EXPLAINED BEFORE, THAT THE TYPE
06:07:31PM OF WORK DONE WITH THE INTERNAL CAN BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
06:07:35PM THAN THE WORK DONE WITH THE CONTRACTING TEAM.
06:07:37PM I AM GOING TO KEEP GOING UNTIL YOU TELL ME NOT TO.
06:07:40PM WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS, WE NODE THAT IS ANOTHER AREA
06:07:43PM THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN.
06:07:44PM SO THE CAPACITY WAS $2 MILLION FOR THE FIXES -- SORRY, NEW
06:07:51PM AND FIXED AND CAN USE THE INTERNAL TEAM TO THE TUNE OF 2
06:07:55PM MILLION FOR MODIFICATIONS AND CORRECTIONS.
06:07:59PM IN TOTAL THAT BRINGS US TO AN ESTIMATED ANNUAL CAPACITY OF
06:08:02PM $25 MILLION.
06:08:03PM OKAY, THE NOTE ON THE BOTTOM HAS BEEN PUT IN HERE AND SOME
06:08:13PM DIALOGUE AROUND AS QUESTION CONTINUE TO MEASURE THE REQUEST
06:08:17PM OF THE IN-HOUSE SAVING AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF LOOKING
06:08:22PM AT SOMETHING SIMILAR SIDEWALKS.
06:08:25PM THIS IS SIMPLY TO STAY WE WANT TO GET OUR FOOTING WITH
06:08:28PM INTERNAL PAVING AND COME BACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT FINANCIAL
06:08:32PM SUCCESS HAS BEEN BEFORE WE HAVE A FORMAL ASK IN ADDITION TO
06:08:36PM SIDEWALKS.
06:08:36PM >>VIK BHIDE: VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
06:08:40PM SO ON THE SIDEWALKS PIECE, THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS TO IT.
06:08:44PM ONE, AS HAGAR MENTIONED, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET A BETTER
06:08:49PM FOOTING ON THE -- ON THE INHOUSE PAVING TEAM AND GET THEM
06:08:54PM MORE CAPABILITIES.
06:08:55PM WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WHAT OUR FINANCIAL NEEDS ARE FOR SIDEWALK
06:08:59PM TEAM.
06:08:59PM IT IS A LITTLE SHY OF $4 MILLION A YEAR.
06:09:03PM WHAT THEY DO NOT INCLUDE -- AND THAT IS THE BIG DISCUSSION
06:09:06PM FOR US IS AS WE EXPAND TEAM SIZES, THEY REQUIRE FACILITIES
06:09:12PM AND SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT TO PARK THIS EQUIPMENT AND TO
06:09:15PM HOUSE THE STAFF THEMSELVES.
06:09:16PM AND FACILITIES IN REAL ESTATE, AS YOU KNOW, ARE REALLY TIGHT
06:09:26PM AND PRETTY EXPENSIVE AND THAT COST IS NOT FACTORED IN.
06:09:29PM SOMETHING WE ARE COGNIZANT OF AND WORK WITH THE FACILITIES
06:09:34PM DEPARTMENT SHOULD WE GET THERE AND THAT IS ONE OF THE
06:09:36PM CONSIDERATIONS.
06:09:57PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THIS IS TO SUGGEST -- I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
06:10:00PM YOU TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS.
06:10:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME CLOSER.
06:10:03PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: SORRY, AS YOU BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE
06:10:08PM CAPITAL LISTING, YOU BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE CAPITAL IDs.
06:10:13PM WE WILL HAVE THIS 2150 MEMORIZED BECAUSE EXPANSES THE
06:10:18PM MAJORITY OF THE RESURFACING.
06:10:20PM THE REASON I INDICATED WE WILL BE OPENING UP A NEW NUMBER TO
06:10:24PM TRACK THE INTERNAL IS TO SIMPLY ALLOW US TO BETTER
06:10:27PM UNDERSTAND AND REPORT THE PERFORMANCE FOR THAT AND A NEW
06:10:31PM NUMBER FOR INTERNAL STREET RESURFACING.
06:10:34PM MOVING DOWN, THE TWO OTHER NUMBERS ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE
06:10:39PM AND THIS IS, AGAIN, THE STATEMENT WHEN WE FORWARD AND TALK
06:10:43PM OF THIS PARTICULAR EFFORT THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING.
06:10:45PM YOU WILL SEE MANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT INDICATE SPECIFIC
06:10:48PM ROADWORK OR OTHER THINGS.
06:10:49PM BUT THESE ARE THE ONES WE WILL BE FOCUSED ON MEASURING.
06:10:53PM SO LET'S TALK ABOUT GAP.
06:10:56PM BECAUSE YOU ARE IN A PLACE WHERE YOU NEED TO DECIDE HOW BEST
06:11:00PM TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON PRIORITIZING CAP-X.
06:11:06PM SO WALKING THROUGH -- WALKING THROUGH WHERE WE HAVE
06:11:10PM ESTIMATED WE WILL PROBABLY BE IN TERMS OF FINISHING OUT THIS
06:11:16PM YEAR WITH CARRY-OVER MONEY AND THE AMOUNTS PUT INTO THE
06:11:19PM BUDGET FOR FISCAL '25.
06:11:22PM I HAVE BROKEN OUT EACH OF THE AMOUNTS THAT WE THINK ARE
06:11:26PM ACTUALLY AVAILABLE.
06:11:27PM LET'S SEE HERE.
06:11:28PM AND CREATES AT THE END A GAP OF $15 MILLION.
06:11:36PM IF WE ARE GOING TO STRIVE OF HITTING THE MAXIMUM 25 MILLION.
06:11:39PM THE POINT IS, AS WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS IN THE CAP-X
06:11:45PM PLAN, $4.1 MILLION FOR RESURFACING WITH CONTRACTORS.
06:11:49PM $1.3 WITH THE INTERNAL TEAM.
06:11:51PM WE CONSIDER MR. BHIDE'S CAPACITY, IF WE WANT TO HIT THIS
06:11:56PM HARD AND REALLY GO AFTER IT, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING
06:11:59PM ABOUT IS HAVING TO REDEPLOY $15 MILLION FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE
06:12:02PM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
06:12:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:12:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
06:12:14PM CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE CAPACITY SLIDE.
06:12:16PM THE ONE THAT SAYS "CAPACITY?"
06:12:20PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: YES.
06:12:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- YES, THIS SLIDE.
06:12:25PM THE CAPACITY.
06:12:32PM THE CAPACITY TO RESURFACE WITH CONTRACTORS, TO ME THAT SEEMS
06:12:37PM LIMITLESS.
06:12:37PM WHY IS THAT $16 MILLION.
06:12:41PM >>VIK BHIDE: A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY.
06:12:42PM WHEN WE LOOK AT RESURFACING PROJECTS, WE COULD DO MUCH
06:12:45PM LARGER CONTRACTS AND JUST DO DESIGN-BUILD.
06:12:48PM A LOT OF TIMES, THOUGH, WE DO LEVERAGE OUR INHOUSE TEAM TO
06:12:53PM DO INHOUSE DESIGN.
06:12:55PM THAT IS ONE THING.
06:12:56PM THE OTHER IS, THERE IS A START-UP TIME FOR A BROADER
06:13:00PM PROGRAM.
06:13:00PM YOU HEARD ME SAY IN THE PAST THAT WE NEED ABOUT $40 MILLION,
06:13:05PM $42 MILLION A YEAR TO KEEP OUR ROADS IN GOOD SHAPE.
06:13:08PM BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IF WE GET $40 MILLION TODAY WE WILL BE
06:13:12PM ABLE TO SPEND THAT.
06:13:13PM THERE IS A START-UP TIME.
06:13:14PM THIS $25 MILLION FOR THIS YEAR REPRESENTS SOME OF THAT AND
06:13:20PM THE START-UP ITSELF.
06:13:22PM WE CAN RAMP UP AND GET THAT INCREASE IF THERE IS
06:13:25PM PROGRAMMATIC AVAILABLE.
06:13:26PM TODAY RELATIVE TO OUR CAPACITY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO ON
06:13:30PM TOP OF PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
06:13:36PM WE HAVE PROJECTS LIKE WEST RIVER AND PALMETTO BEACH COMING
06:13:40PM UP.
06:13:40PM THAT IS OUR CAPACITY.
06:13:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT REALLY DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
06:13:43PM WHAT -- WHY -- RESURFACE WITH CONTRACTORS.
06:13:47PM WE COULD SIMPLY DO $100 MILLION.
06:13:51PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO MOST OF THESE PROJECTS, RESURFACING
06:13:55PM PROJECTS, REQUIRE SURVEY.
06:13:57PM THEY REQUIRE DESIGN.
06:13:58PM THEY REQUIRE CONSIDERATIONS A OFF VISION ZERO AND THINGS
06:14:03PM LIKE THAT FOR REDESIGN.
06:14:04PM THAT, ITSELF, HAS SOME START-UP TIME ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
06:14:08PM SO IF YOU ARE ASKING, CAN WE GET A VERY LARGE DESIGN-BUILD
06:14:12PM PROJECT INITIATED IN YEAR 1?
06:14:15PM WE PROBABLY COULD.
06:14:16PM BUT THAT WILL STILL TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO EXECUTE.
06:14:21PM AND SO -- SO IF YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT CAPACITY FROM THAT
06:14:27PM STANDPOINT, THEN, YES, WE HAVE MORE CAPACITY, BUT WE DO FROM
06:14:31PM INHOUSE PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFY TO BE DONE THAT WE HAVE
06:14:35PM ALREADY DESIGNED AND INITIATED AND HENCE THE $25 MILLION FOR
06:14:39PM THIS FISCAL YEAR.
06:14:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT INTERNAL PROJECTS THAT WE WILL HAVE
06:14:45PM EXTERNAL PEOPLE DO.
06:14:47PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
06:14:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE TRICK.
06:14:48PM MY OTHER QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH SIDEWALKS.
06:14:53PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
06:14:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE YOU HAD
06:14:57PM UP -- YEAH, THAT ONE.
06:14:58PM SO I JUST HAVE TO ASK THIS.
06:15:01PM WHERE IS THE MONEY FROM THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE IN THIS?
06:15:08PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO, I CAN ANSWER THAT.
06:15:10PM SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEES ARE BEING SPENT AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW
06:15:15PM AND THAT NUMBER IS NOT AS HIGH AS YOU MIGHT THINK IT IS.
06:15:17PM THEY ARE NOT COMPLICATED IN THIS; HOWEVER, SIDEWALK IN LIEU
06:15:23PM FEES ARE BEING SPENT IN SEVERAL OF OUR CIP PROJECTS.
06:15:27PM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE CARRYOVERS UNDER SIDEWALKS WAS
06:15:31PM LIKE $1 MILLION.
06:15:34PM WE ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING TOGETHER A $2 MILLION DESIGN-BUILD
06:15:37PM CONTRACT FOR THE SIDEWALK GAPS IDENTIFIED AS MANY THAT WE
06:15:44PM CAN GET FROM $2 MILLION.
06:15:45PM A LOT OF THAT WILL ALSO BE FUNDED BY SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEES.
06:15:50PM AND JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE, WHEN WE MADE THAT POLICY CHANGE
06:15:53PM THROUGH THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE SEVERAL YEARS BACK, IT
06:15:58PM ACTUALLY WORKED IN THAT WE ARE SEEING CONTRACTORS BUILD MORE
06:16:02PM SIDEWALKS.
06:16:02PM AS A CONSEQUENCE FROM JANUARY TO DATE, WE MAYBE COLLECTED
06:16:07PM ABOUT $160,000 SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEES.
06:16:12PM NOT THAT MUCH MONEY BECAUSE THE COST IS $1 MILLION A MILE.
06:16:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
06:16:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN COUNCILMAN --
06:16:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:16:22PM I KNOW YOU ARE TALKING OF DOLLARS AND PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE,
06:16:26PM HOW MANY MILES ARE WE DOING WITH THOSE DOLLARS?
06:16:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE.
06:16:31PM IF WE HAVE $2 MILLION.
06:16:34PM WE CAN DO TWO MILES -- TWO MILES OF SIDEWALK A YEAR.
06:16:38PM THAT IS NEW SIDEWALK.
06:16:40PM WE ARE ALSO DOING A LOT OF SIDEWALK REHAB AND REPLACEMENT OF
06:16:45PM PANELS OF EXISTING SIDEWALK.
06:16:47PM AND THAT WE ARE USING $ 700,000 FROM PARKING.
06:16:52PM WE ARE USING -- WE CAN NOT USE IN LIEU FEES FOR THAT, SORRY,
06:16:58PM AND USING OPERATING AND CAPITAL FUNDS.
06:17:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I AM SEEING RECENTLY.
06:17:03PM I WAS DRIVING THROUGH CLEVELAND -- NOT OHIO BUT CLEVELAND
06:17:08PM STREET AND ALL THE SIDEWALKS WERE SHAVED WHERE THERE WERE
06:17:10PM SOME UNBALANCES.
06:17:11PM I NOTICED THAT IN WEST TAMPA.
06:17:13PM PALMETTO STREET WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS SHAVED.
06:17:16PM I DROVE AROUND, LOOKED AROUND, AND AMAZING HOW SIDEWALKS
06:17:20PM MOVE BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.
06:17:22PM PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
06:17:23PM THEY DO MOVE.
06:17:24PM >>VIK BHIDE: ABSOLUTELY.
06:17:25PM WE HAVE THAT GRINDING PROGRAM.
06:17:26PM AND IN THE BACK OF IT, WE COME WITH THE PANEL REPLACEMENT
06:17:29PM WHERE GRINDING ISN'T ENOUGH BUT WE COVERED HALF THE CITY IN
06:17:34PM ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.
06:17:35PM SO WE THINK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS WE WILL BE DONE WITH
06:17:38PM THE WHOLE CITY.
06:17:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE SEEN IT IN MANY PLACES.
06:17:41PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
06:17:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN AND THEN VIERA.
06:17:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO SECRET THAT I HAVE BEEN PUSHING HARD
06:17:48PM CONTINUE TO PAVING.
06:17:49PM STREETCAR NUMBER ONE.
06:17:51PM PAVING NUMBER TWO.
06:17:52PM VICE VERSA DEPENDING ON HOW I WAKE UP IN THE MORNING.
06:17:56PM WHAT I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING OF THE RESOURCES.
06:18:00PM YOU KNOW, 40 MILLION JUST TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY
06:18:04PM HAVE.
06:18:04PM THAT IS NOT NEW AND IMPROVED BUT KEEPING UP WITH THE GENERAL
06:18:10PM MEAT NANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:18:11PM $4.7 MILLION IN THE BUDGET, HOW WOEFULLY INADEQUATE IT IS TO
06:18:16PM MAINTAIN.
06:18:17PM THAT IS WHY MY ONLY ASK OF ALL OF THE BUDGET -- MY ONLY WAS
06:18:22PM TO INCREASE THE PAVING BUDGET AND IT FELL ON DEAF EARS.
06:18:26PM DIDN'T GET A DAMN PENNY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION WHEN
06:18:29PM SUBMITTED THE BUDGET -- I AM LOOKING AT YOU.
06:18:31PM [LAUGHTER]
06:18:33PM SO IT -- IT IS DISAPPOINTING.
06:18:36PM I MEAN AT THE RISK OF SAYING GOING THROUGH SECOND READING
06:18:45PM AND GOING THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE'S BUDGETS AND STARTS
06:18:49PM PROPOSING CUTS TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, BUT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME
06:18:52PM -- SAY YOU HAVE A CAPACITY.
06:18:55PM QUESTION OF YOUR CAPACITY.
06:18:56PM I AM KIND OF LEANING TOWARD THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN
06:18:59PM HURTAK IS SAYING.
06:19:00PM I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THE DESIGN AND PROJECTS.
06:19:04PM I NEED PAVEMENT ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT ARE
06:19:07PM CRUMBLING UNDER PEOPLE'S FEET.
06:19:09PM NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
06:19:10PM THAT YOU DISCOVERED BRINGING THE STUFF INHOUSE, DOESN'T
06:19:15PM REQUIRE STUDYING OR SURVEYING AND REQUIRES PUTTING ASPHALT
06:19:19PM DOWN ON THE STREETS BEFORE THEY LITERALLY WASH OUT FROM
06:19:23PM UNDERNEATH.
06:19:25PM KIDS, PLAYING.
06:19:26PM SO I -- WE NEED -- WE NEED AS A CITY TO BE HITTING CLOSER TO
06:19:30PM THAT GOAL OF AT LEAST MAINTAINING THE WHAT WE HAVE,
06:19:37PM INCLUDING OUR STREETS.
06:19:38PM AND I KNOW WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE
06:19:43PM IN OUR PARKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WHY I HAVE BEEN
06:19:46PM SUPPORTIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S AGENDA AND INCREASE
06:19:48PM REVENUES KEEP UP WITH THAT.
06:19:51PM BUT SOMEWHERE IN THIS BUDGET, WE NEED TO FIND MONEY TO PAVE
06:19:55PM THE STREETS.
06:19:56PM NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
06:19:57PM NOT BIG PROJECTS.
06:19:58PM JUST PAVING PEOPLE'S STREETS.
06:19:59PM THEY EXPECT THAT.
06:20:00PM WE ARE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY IN TAXES TO LIVE HERE.
06:20:02PM A GREAT CITY.
06:20:03PM IT IS JUST A BASIC NEED.
06:20:05PM WE ARE DOING VERY WELL OF PROVIDING PEOPLE CLEAN WATER.
06:20:08PM WE ARE DOING WELL TAKING THEIR DIRTY WATER OUT OF THEIR
06:20:11PM HOUSE.
06:20:12PM OUR POLICE ARE INCREDIBLE JOB.
06:20:16PM OUR FIRE IS DOING INCREDIBLE JOB.
06:20:19PM WOEFULLY BEHIND IN TRANSPORTATION.
06:20:21PM WOEFULLY BEHIND IN STREET PAVING.
06:20:24PM I WOULD URGE -- I DON'T THINK YOU WANT ME GO WITH A HATCHET
06:20:30PM OF MONEY.
06:20:31PM ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO COME UP WITH PROPOSALS OF HOW TO
06:20:36PM REPRIORITIZE TO FIX THE PAVING DEFICIT AND AT LEAST GET TO
06:20:41PM THE BASIC NEEDS OF WHAT IT TAKES TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING.
06:20:44PM >>VIK BHIDE: IF I CAN ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT YOU
06:20:46PM MENTIONED.
06:20:47PM FIRST, ON THE GAS TAX BUDGET THAT IS DISMAL.
06:20:51PM THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT.
06:20:53PM THAT IS BECAUSE GAS TAX IS WHAT FUNDS OF TRANSPORTATION, THE
06:20:56PM PAVING BUDGET IS LESSER.
06:20:58PM I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, WE HAVE BRIDGES, WE HAVE STREET
06:21:01PM LIGHTS, WE HAVE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
06:21:04PM ALL COME IN THE SAME BUDGET.
06:21:06PM THOSE ARE EQUALLY CRITICAL -- WELL, THAT -- THAT IS SUBJECT
06:21:11PM TOO YOUR PRIORITIES AS THE FIRST.
06:21:12PM BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE IS ALL OF THESE OTHER
06:21:17PM PROGRAMS AS WELL THAT ARE ESSENTIAL.
06:21:18PM AND -- AND NEEDED FOR THE CITY.
06:21:21PM AND AS FAR AS, AGAIN, INHOUSE PAVING TEAM, IT IS THE SAME
06:21:26PM CALCULUS.
06:21:27PM IF WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF OUR IN-HOUSE PAVING TEAM.
06:21:31PM THEY HAVE ALREADY SHOWN SIGNIFICANT RESULTS.
06:21:34PM YOU SEE IT OUT THERE.
06:21:35PM WE ARE FOCUSING MAINLY ON NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:21:38PM IT IS THE SAME THING.
06:21:39PM WE WILL NEED MORE FACILITIES.
06:21:41PM WE WILL NEED MORE PLACES AND OFFICES FOR -- TO HOUSE THESE
06:21:44PM PEOPLE SO A BALANCE TO BE STRUCK BETWEEN WHAT WE CAN
06:21:49PM CONTRACT AND WHAT WE CAN BRING IN-HOUSE.
06:21:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND WE
06:21:54PM GOT TO DO BETTER AND LOOK TOWARD THE ADMINISTRATION OF
06:21:57PM FINDING THAT BEFORE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND FIND IT
06:22:00PM OURSELVES.
06:22:01PM I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD AND WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION
06:22:04PM FROM TIME TO TIME, YOU MENTIONED BRIDGE, THE BRIDGES IN
06:22:07PM TAMPA ARE SAFE.
06:22:08PM >>VIK BHIDE: STRUCTURALLY TOWN.
06:22:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRIDGES ARE SAFE.
06:22:11PM FAIRLY GOOD QUALITY OF BRIDGES.
06:22:13PM SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF, WE HAVE TO THINK OF THE WANTS
06:22:15PM VERSUS THE NEEDS.
06:22:17PM AND THE NEEDS ARE GREAT.
06:22:18PM AND I -- AGAIN, I APPLAUD YOU ON TAKING THE INITIATIVE OF
06:22:21PM THE IN-HOUSE PAVING WITH THAT SAVING.
06:22:24PM AND I KNOW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS AND SEEN THIS AND
06:22:29PM MISREPORTED IT AT THE TIME.
06:22:30PM SHOCKING, BUT THE GROWTH OF PERSONNEL.
06:22:35PM WHEN YOU HEAR THIS, THAT WE ARE BRINGING IN-HOUSE PAVING
06:22:40PM TEAM.
06:22:40PM GUESS WHAT, WE MAY HAVE TO HIRE A COUPLE OF EMPLOYEES.
06:22:43PM WE TOOK OVER THE WASTE MANAGEMENT PLANT, WHICH BROUGHT OUR
06:22:47PM EMPLOYEES UP.
06:22:47PM SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY OF TAMPA IS HIRING ALL THESE
06:22:50PM PEOPLE.
06:22:50PM GUESS WHAT, SAVING PEOPLE.
06:22:52PM SAVING MONEY.
06:22:52PM SO WHEN THE MAN STANDING BEFORE US AT THE DAIS TODAY TALKS
06:22:56PM OF BRING IN-HOUSE.
06:22:58PM EMPLOYEES AND SAVING TAXPAYER MONEY.
06:23:01PM DON'T BE COMING SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND SAY YOU ADDED
06:23:05PM THREE FTEs.
06:23:07PM TAXPAYER MONEY.
06:23:08PM >>VIK BHIDE: WITH PAVING, 100% SAVINGS ON THE ULTIMATE
06:23:12PM PROJECT.
06:23:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: APPRECIATE THAT.
06:23:13PM KEEP IT UP.
06:23:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:23:15PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:23:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM -- I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING TO TALK.
06:23:21PM I WILL SAVE MY COMMENTS UNTIL AFTERWARDS, BECAUSE I HAVE A
06:23:25PM LOT TO SAY.
06:23:25PM THIS IS WHAT I WILL SAY BUILDING ON WHAT COUNCILMAN
06:23:30PM CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT WITH REVENUE.
06:23:32PM WE ARE LOOKING AT -- I WILL SAY IT VERY BRIEFLY, WE ARE
06:23:36PM LOOKING AT TAKING PARTS OF THE BUDGET FOR OTHER THINGS LIKE
06:23:39PM ROAD REPAVING, FIRE AND DIFFERENT THINGS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT
06:23:43PM OF REVENUE CHALLENGES HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:23:45PM I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
06:23:47PM I PROPOSE A SMALL.3 MILLAGE INCREASE.
06:23:52PM WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CIT.
06:23:55PM TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM THE COLLECTION.
06:23:57PM AND IF WE DON'T -- I WILL SAVE THAT FOR LATER.
06:24:01PM BUT I DID WANT TO HAVE A QUESTION, BECAUSE I DID JUST TALK
06:24:04PM TO THE FOLKS OVER AT -- AT TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, DISTRICT
06:24:07PM 2 AND STATION 13 ON THE 30s.
06:24:10PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
06:24:12PM THAT IS ALREADY FUNDED FOR LAST YEAR.
06:24:13PM IT IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THIS YEAR, CORRECT?
06:24:17PM 30th STREET.
06:24:18PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES, 30th STREET IS FUNDED VIERA VIRUS I WANTED
06:24:23PM TO MAKE SURE WHEN I SAW THEM A FEW DAYS AGO.
06:24:25PM I ALSO WANT TO SAY JUST FOR Y'ALL -- FOR MR. BHIDE.
06:24:31PM YOU DO A GOOD JOB AND WELL PREPARED AND A PLEASURE TO WORK
06:24:35PM WITH.
06:24:35PM AND FOR MISS KAPESKY, YOU ARE NEW.
06:24:39PM I WANT TO SAY -- AND SPEAKING FOR ALL OF US, YOU ARE DOING A
06:24:44PM GREAT JOB.
06:24:44PM I AM SURE ALL COUNCIL BELIEVES -- I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN
06:24:48PM CLENDENIN IS THE ONE THAT MOTIONED TO CREATE THIS POSITION,
06:24:51PM IF I RECALL.
06:24:52PM YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB.
06:24:54PM YOU ARE ALWAYS PREPARED AND YOU ARE DOING GOOD JOB.
06:24:56PM JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.
06:24:58PM >>VIK BHIDE: SHE KEEPS HER PENCILS SHARPENED.
06:25:02PM I KNOW YOU SAY WELL PREPARED.
06:25:05PM ON 30th, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, THE SOUTHERN SECTION IS
06:25:08PM FUNDED.
06:25:09PM THE NORTHERN SECTION FOR FY '25.
06:25:11PM BOUGANVILLA TO BUSCH IS FUND AND BOUGANVILLA UNTIL FOWLER
06:25:20PM IS FY '25.
06:25:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE STATION WHERE STATION 13 AND DISTRICT 2
06:25:25PM ARE IS ALREADY FUNDED.
06:25:27PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
06:25:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:25:29PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:25:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THIS.
06:25:32PM AND I WILL SAVE MOST OF MY COMMENTS TO LATER, BUT JUST TO
06:25:37PM ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE I
06:25:42PM HEAR ABOUT.
06:25:43PM AND I HAVE BEEN COUNCIL FOR FIVE YEARS.
06:25:45PM I HAVE BEEN HEAVILY PUSHING THIS FOR FIVE YEARS.
06:25:47PM TWO YEARS AGO I VOTED AGAINST THE ENTIRE $2.18 BILLION
06:25:51PM PROJECT BECAUSE THE ROAD REPAIR WAS ONLY $1.4 MILLION.
06:25:55PM I NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD ONLY USE GAS TAX
06:25:59PM FOR ROADS.
06:26:02PM THE LAST YEAR, I THINK MAYBE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN MADE THE
06:26:05PM MOTION BUT WE ALL AGREED THAT PARKING SIGNAGE MONEY WILL BE
06:26:11PM MOVED OVER AND THAT INCREASED TO $7 MILLION AND WE NEED MORE
06:26:15PM THAN THAT FOR BASIC MAINTENANCE.
06:26:17PM WE HAVE PEOPLE COMPLAINING EVERY DAY THAT THEY PAY A LOT IN
06:26:21PM TAXES AND THEIR ROADS ARE FALLING APART.
06:26:23PM AND I KNOW FROM WHAT HAPPENS FROM DAYS LIKE TODAY, THE ROADS
06:26:26PM THAT HAVE BRICK UNDERNEATH.
06:26:28PM THE WATER GETS UNDERNEATH AND TEMPERATURE CHANGES IT BUCKLES
06:26:33PM UP THE ASPHALT AND POTHOLES EVERYWHERE.
06:26:34PM A HUGE POTHOLE AT THE CORNER OF BAYSHORE AND GANDY AFTER THE
06:26:39PM LAST RAIN A FEW DAYS AGO.
06:26:40PM WE HAD THE GREAT RECESSION.
06:26:42PM WHERE PAM IORIO CUT THE BUDGET BACK TO NOTHING.
06:26:46PM TO CUT STAFF.
06:26:47PM AND, YOU KNOW, KEPT THE -- KEPT THE CITY AFLOAT AND KEPT THE
06:26:53PM RESERVES HIGH.
06:26:54PM JUST NOW RESTORING IT TO THE SAME LEVEL THAT SHE CREATED.
06:26:59PM WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT, THERE WAS A PUSH FOR NEW TAX.
06:27:01PM AND THE PUBLIC BELIEVES THAT THE -- THAT THE ROAD REPAIR
06:27:05PM BUDGET WAS KEPT ARTIFICIALLY LOW FOR EIGHT OR TEN YEARS
06:27:09PM BECAUSE THEY WERE COMPELLED TO VOTE FOR THE ROAD TAX.
06:27:12PM WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US, THEY DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON A TAX
06:27:15PM OR WAIT ON THAT BECAUSE COULD 10 YEARS AWAY, THEY WANT THEIR
06:27:20PM ROADS REPAIRED NOW.
06:27:21PM WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO REFUND IT.
06:27:23PM WE DON'T HAVE NEAR ENOUGH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO EVEN FUND THIS
06:27:27PM YEAR'S ROAD REPAIR, AND WE NEED TO GO BACK THROUGH -- IF YOU
06:27:31PM LOOK AT WHAT WAS NOT DONE, BECAUSE THE GREAT RECESSION AND
06:27:33PM BECAUSE OF VANITY PROJECTS AND LACK OF ATTENTION.
06:27:36PM WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF -- I THINK YOU SAID.
06:27:39PM $2 BILLION OR MORE?
06:27:42PM >> $2 BILLION FOR ALL --
06:27:46PM >> WE HAVE -- WE HAVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON THESE ROADS.
06:27:51PM WE I CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T CREATE THIS PROBLEM AND HAVE TO GO
06:27:55PM BACK TO FIX THEM.
06:27:56PM INSTEAD OF MAINTAINING MONEY FOR ONE YEAR, WE NEED MORE.
06:27:59PM SO THE QUESTION I WILL ASK ADMINISTRATION.
06:28:01PM CAN YOU PLEASE FIND MORE SO WE CAN CUT SOMETHING, BECAUSE
06:28:05PM THIS IS THE THING THAT WE WILL HEAR MORE AND MORE COMPLAINTS
06:28:08PM ABOUT.
06:28:08PM AND NUMBER TWO, CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE
06:28:11PM KIND OF CONFUSING.
06:28:13PM CAN YOU CONFIRM AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, UP UNTIL TWO YEARS
06:28:17PM AGO, THE BUDGET WAS THIS $4.1 MILLION ON THIS.
06:28:20PM OUT OF A $1.8 BILLION BUDGET, STILL ONLY HAD $4.1 MILLION A
06:28:25PM YEAR FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENT.
06:28:27PM >>VIK BHIDE: MORE OR LESS $6 MILLION BECAUSE OTHER
06:28:32PM CATEGORIES THAT HAVE PAVING.
06:28:34PM A FRACTION OF THE $9 MILLION FOR LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX.
06:28:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND THE COUNCIL DID CREATE THE PROBLEM.
06:28:43PM WE HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH CURRENT MAINTENANCE SO GOTTEN
06:28:47PM WORSE.
06:28:47PM EIGHT YEARS OF COMPLETE NEGLIGENCE, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO
06:28:51PM FILL THE GAP AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT US TO INCREASE
06:28:54PM TAXES.
06:28:55PM FIND OTHER SOURCES.
06:28:56PM WITHOUT US HAVING TO USE A SCHOOL.
06:29:00PM I HOPE THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT WILL HELP US FIND
06:29:03PM MORE MONEY TO PUT IN.
06:29:05PM >>VIK BHIDE: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF I CAN RESPOND TO A
06:29:07PM COUPLE OF THINGS.
06:29:08PM YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
06:29:09PM WE CHAIRED THIS BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS.
06:29:12PM BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS OF CITY ROADS ARE NOT GOOD TO BEGIN
06:29:17PM WITH, THE RAINS DETERIORATE THE ROADS FASTER AND KEEPING UP
06:29:20PM WILL REQUIRE EXTRA EFFORT ON EVERYONE'S PART.
06:29:22PM NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
06:29:23PM YOU DID MENTION PARKING FINES THAT WERE APPLIED LAST YEAR.
06:29:27PM AND I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THOSE FUNDS, THANKS TO
06:29:32PM COUNCIL, AND UPDATED POLICY, HAVE YIELDED SIGNIFICANT
06:29:37PM REVENUES TO THE PARKING DIVISION.
06:29:40PM BUT IF COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER KEEPING THEM CONDITION WITH
06:29:43PM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF CONCERNS FOR POTENTIAL
06:29:50PM STATE ACTION.
06:29:51PM ILLEGAL IT AT THAT.
06:29:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:29:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
06:29:55PM NOW YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR OWN TAXES .WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
06:29:59PM TAX, FROM THE PUBLIC ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
06:30:01PM YOU REALIZE OUT OF THE THREE ENTITIES, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM,
06:30:04PM THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, I PAY LESS TO THE CITY THAN I DO
06:30:07PM FOR THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
06:30:09PM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THEM, BUT TIME JUST SAYING WHAT IT IS.
06:30:13PM I AM NOT PATTING OURSELVES ON THE BACK, BUT YOU HAVE TO
06:30:17PM UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOME OUTSIDE COSTS TO MAIN TANS THE
06:30:21PM REPAIRING OF THE PIPES PROGRAM BEFORE REPAYING THE PIPES
06:30:24PM PROGRAM WAS $30 TO $35 MILLION A YEAR THE LAST TIME -- WENT
06:30:29PM FROM '18 TO 20 AND APPROACHING 30.
06:30:33PM HAD TO BE DONE FOR $2.9 BILLION.
06:30:36PM THAT FUNDED WITH 53% CASH.
06:30:39PM THAT IS ON YOUR WATER BILL -- THEY CALL IT THE WATER BILL
06:30:42PM BUT HAS EVERY BILL IN THERE.
06:30:44PM WE CALLED IT THE WATER BILL BECAUSE EASY TO SAY, I GUESS.
06:30:48PM THAT WILL CARRY US FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
06:30:50PM AT THE ENDS, WE HAVE TO FUND THE OTHER 46% AS I UNDERSTAND.
06:30:54PM THESE ARE THE THIS I THINK SO THAT ARE GOING.
06:30:56PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENERGY PLANT $120 MILLION.
06:31:05PM WHEN THAT GOES, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
06:31:07PM I HOPE IT DOESN'T GO BEFORE THE OTHER ONE GETS HERE BECAUSE
06:31:11PM IT WILL TAKE A YEAR AND A HALF TO GET ONE AND ARE WAITING
06:31:14PM SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS NOW.
06:31:16PM YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER BIG OPERATION WE HAVE, OVER 100
06:31:21PM MILLION.
06:31:22PM YOU HAVE TO YOU DO REPAIRS AS THEY ARE NEEDED AND BEYOND THE
06:31:26PM EXTENSION OF NORMAL LIFE.
06:31:27PM AND THIS IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT TACKLED.
06:31:30PM NOT GRAVY AND EVERYBODY IS HAVING RAH-RAH.
06:31:36PM THINGS THAT WERE COSTING $1 THEN ARE $4 NOW, TALKING OF A
06:31:40PM GAGS OF MILK.
06:31:41PM GASOLINE IS NOT $.39 ANYMORE LIKE IT WAS WHEN I WAS A KID
06:31:46PM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS ARE GOING ON.
06:31:48PM A HOUSE THEY POUT FOR $13,000.
06:31:51PM SELL IT FOR 450,000.
06:31:54PM WHERE DO THEY GO?
06:31:56PM THEY CAN'T GO ANYWHERE.
06:31:57PM IF THEY SELL, SOMEBODY WON'T BUY FOR 12,8 OR.
06:32:02PM THEREFORE YOU HAVE MORE PROBLEMS IN AFFORDABLE OF HOUSING.
06:32:07PM EVERYTHING IS HITTING US AT ONCE.
06:32:08PM NOT ONLY US, BUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
06:32:10PM NOT HERE ALONE AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN.
06:32:13PM IT GETS DIFFICULT, BUT THESE PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED IF WE
06:32:17PM KEEP PLUGGING ALONG, THEY WILL BE SOLVED.
06:32:20PM THAT IS ALL I WANT TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:32:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
06:32:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW NEXT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO INITIAL
06:32:29PM QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ALREADY
06:32:31PM AND THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN WAITING.
06:32:33PM I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION WE GO STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC COMMENT
06:32:36PM AND THEN DO OURS AFTERWARDS.
06:32:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THAT'S FINE.
06:32:39PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:32:40PM ANYTHING ELSE TO YOUR PRESENTATION, MA'AM?
06:32:43PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: WILL TAKE 30 SECONDS.
06:32:45PM IF YOU BRING IT UP ONE MORE TIME.
06:32:47PM JUST NEXT STEPS.
06:32:49PM SO BASICALLY, JUST TO REITERATE, WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD
06:33:00PM WITH THE ADDITIONAL INTERNAL PAVING AT ABOUT $2 MILLION.
06:33:04PM TO HIT THE $25 MILLION, YOU KNOW, THAT WE PUT FORWARD AS THE
06:33:08PM CAPACITY, THERE IS THIS NEED TO CONTINUE TO FINISH OUT
06:33:11PM BUYING WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $200 MILLION OF PAVING
06:33:15PM EQUIPMENT.
06:33:15PM ALSO -- YOU KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE GROUP TO DECIDE
06:33:19PM IF WE WANT TO DO REALLOCATIONS AS A POINT OF PRIORITY.
06:33:23PM ONCE WE GET OURSELVES AROUND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO,
06:33:26PM MOBILITY WILL BE PROVIDING A LIST OF LOCATIONS BASED ON THAT
06:33:29PM FINAL NUMBER.
06:33:30PM AND JUST A POINT OF NOTE AS WELL, THE $2 MILLION, THAT
06:33:34PM ASSUMES A 50/50 MIX OF NEW SIDEWALK AND REPAIR.
06:33:37PM IF -- IF THE GROUP HAD DECIDED WE WANTED TO LEAN IN HARDER,
06:33:43PM A COST DIFFERENTIAL AND LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF MILEAGE THAT
06:33:47PM WILL BE DONE.
06:33:47PM ALL RIGHT.
06:33:48PM THAT IS ENOUGH FOR TODAY.
06:33:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:33:52PM SO PER REQUEST HERE BY COUNCIL, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC
06:33:57PM COMMENT.
06:33:57PM WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE.
06:34:00PM I WILL START WITH THEM AND THEN GO WITH THE FOLKS IN THE
06:34:03PM ROOM.
06:34:03PM MICHELLE COOKSON, IF YOU ARE ON.
06:34:05PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:34:06PM MICHELLE COOKSON.
06:34:08PM IS SHE ON?
06:34:25PM ALL RIGHT, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
06:34:26PM WE HAVE ZIDIR SHAW.
06:34:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO; YES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:34:33PM >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
06:34:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
06:34:40PM >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:34:41PM HI, MY HOME IS TAMPA AND I LIVE DOWN THERE AND WITH THE
06:34:59PM CITY.
06:34:59PM JUST YESTERDAY AFTER ISSUES PER WEEK, THE CAR BROKE DOWN
06:35:04PM AGAIN.
06:35:05PM OKAY, WAS RESPONSIBLE.
06:35:09PM AND THE ONLY WAY SOME PEOPLE RELY ON HART AND NUMBER ONE,
06:35:21PM WHAT HART IS.
06:35:25PM STRUGGLING TO PAY THE RENT THAT IS A HUGE BURDEN.
06:35:31PM A ONE-CAR HOME.
06:35:38PM AS TAMPA CONTINUES TO GROW, WE MUST ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF
06:35:45PM RESIDENTS.
06:35:47PM AND UTILIZE OF THE ASPECTS OF TRANSPORTATION.
06:35:57PM THE CITY IS NOT ONLY FOR SERVING ALL THE CITIZENS, BUT OUR
06:36:12PM COUNTY AS WE NEED AND HAVE A DESIRE FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT.
06:36:18PM SO MANY RESIDENTS.
06:36:39PM [INAUDIBLE]
06:36:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:36:41PM ZUDIR SHAW.
06:36:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
06:36:45PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
06:36:48PM IF YOU ARE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC.
06:36:49PM PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
06:36:51PM >> LINDA OLSON.
06:36:55PM HI THERE.
06:36:57PM WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND CITY
06:37:02PM COUNCIL FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT OF THE ORGANIZATION I RUN
06:37:06PM TAMPA BAY WAVE.
06:37:07PM AND OUR MISSION TO MAKE TAMPA BAY THE BEST PLACE TO GROW A
06:37:10PM TECHNOLOGY-BASED ABOUT IS IN THE U.S.
06:37:12PM WHEN I STARTED WAVE AS A MEET-UP GROUP IN 200, THE ONLY
06:37:18PM HEADLINES WAS WIKIPEDIA RELOCATING OUT OF TAMPA BAY AND THE
06:37:23PM POTENTIAL BRAIN DRAIN IN OUR REGION.
06:37:25PM AS A TAMPA BAY NATIVE AND FOUNDER OF MY OWN START-UP AT THE
06:37:29PM TIME, I HAD A FRONT-ROW SEAT TO THE ISSUES PLAGUING OUR
06:37:33PM COMMUNITY AND THESE START-UPS MORE THAN A LACK OF INVESTMENT
06:37:36PM CAPITAL.
06:37:37PM NO ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE OF
06:37:39PM THESE START-UPS IN SOLVING THE PROBLEMS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
06:37:43PM AS MOST OF YOU KNOW THANKS TO THIS INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY, WE
06:37:46PM LANDED OUR FIRST-EVER FEDERAL GRANT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
06:37:50PM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA AND LAUNCHED WAVE AN OFFICIAL
06:37:54PM ORGANIZATION IN ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS IN 2013.
06:37:56PM BARELY A DECADE LATER, I AM PROUD TO TALK OF OUR RESULTS AND
06:38:01PM ACCOMPLISHMENTS INCLUDING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH
06:38:03PM 550-PLUS START-UPS AND WE ADD 50 TO 60 NEW START-UPS
06:38:08PM ANNUALLY.
06:38:09PM THESE COMPANIES DO THIS DESPITE HAVING LESS THAN A 5%
06:38:12PM SENTENCE RATE INTO OUR PROGRAMS.
06:38:14PM WE HAVE 200 PLUS VETTED VOLUNTEER MENTORS, 500 INVESTORS.
06:38:19PM AND I AM PROUD TO TELL YOU WE ARE NICKELS AND DIMES AWAY
06:38:22PM FROM BREAKING AN INCREDIBLE METRIC.
06:38:25PM $1 BILLION IN CAPITAL RAISED BY WHAT WE SUPPORT.
06:38:28PM PUTTING US IN ONE OF THE TOP FIVE PROGRAMS IN THE U.S.
06:38:32PM AND SPEAKING OF ROI TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, OUR PROGRAMS HAVE
06:38:37PM AN ANNUAL IMPACT IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS,
06:38:40PM INCLUDING OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY JUST IN TERMS
06:38:44PM OF TRAFFIC THAT WE BRING TO THE AIRPORT AND THE HOTELS IN
06:38:47PM OUR COMMUNITY.
06:38:48PM WE HAVE HELPED MORE THAN TWO DOZEN COMPANIES RELOCATE HERE
06:38:52PM AND BEST OF ALL, CREATING 5200 JOBS AND COUNTIES.
06:38:56PM ORGANIZATION IS GENERALLY FUNDED BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY
06:39:02PM AND A MEMBER OF CORPORATE BACKERS, INDIVIDUAL DONORS AND, OF
06:39:07PM COURSE, FEDERAL GRANTS WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY BUILDING --
06:39:13PM $5 MILLION OF FEDERAL GRANTS INTO THIS COMMUNITY AS WE
06:39:16PM STARTED.
06:39:16PM WE HAVE THREE ACTIVE FEDERAL GRANTS RIGHT NOW AND JUST
06:39:19PM APPLIED TO ANOTHER $15 MILLION FEDERAL GRANT THAT WILL RUN
06:39:25PM FOR FOUR YEARS AND WE HOPE WE ARE SUCCESSFUL.
06:39:27PM WITH YOUR SUPPORT, THESE ARE NOT POSSIBLE, BUT YET WE NEED
06:39:33PM ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT SO WE CAN CONTINUE ADMINISTERING THE
06:39:36PM GRANTS THAT WE HAVE AND PUT US IN A PLACE TO ACCEPT
06:39:38PM ADDITIONAL FEDERAL GRANT.
06:39:40PM WE WANT TO DO THIS SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO GROW THE
06:39:44PM INNOVATION-BASED ECONOMY HERE IN THE REGION AND CREATE
06:39:47PM PATHWAYS TO HIGH-WAGED JOBS AND FINANCIAL AN INDEPENDENCE SO
06:39:52PM WE HAVE A VIBRANT BASED ECONOMY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
06:39:57PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT AND ASK YOU TO CONSIDER
06:40:00PM AN INCREASE.
06:40:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:40:02PM SULING, MISS LUCAS.
06:40:05PM IS THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL ON WHO REGISTERED.
06:40:17PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
06:40:21PM >> GOOD EVENING, HI, MY NAME IS MIDA MARTINEZ.
06:40:26PM EVERYBODY KNOWS ME AS MIMI.
06:40:30PM I LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
06:40:31PM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT FUNDING FOR HART.
06:40:33PM I SEE THE HART BUS GO UP AND DOWN THAT CORRIDOR EVERY DAY.
06:40:37PM SIGH HE IT TAKE RESIDENTS DOWNTOWN.
06:40:41PM POINTS OF DESTINATION ON NEBRASKA, WINN-DIXIE, PUBLIX, TAMPA
06:40:46PM PUBLIC HEALTH CENTER AND THE NEW E.R. TAMPA AND NEBRASKA
06:40:51PM AVENUE.
06:40:51PM IT SHOW THAT IS BUS SERVICE DOES WORK.
06:40:53PM AND WE NEED MORE OF THAT.
06:40:55PM JUST TO GIVE YOU PERSONAL INSIGHT OF MY EXPERIENCE USING THE
06:40:58PM BUS SYSTEM.
06:40:59PM I AM ORIGINALLY FROM MASSACHUSETTS.
06:41:00PM WHEN I LIVED UP THERE, I DIDN'T HAVE A CAR FOR MANY YEARS
06:41:03PM BECAUSE THAT BUS COULD TAKE ME TO SCHOOL.
06:41:05PM TAKE ME TO COLLEGE.
06:41:06PM TOOK ME TO WORK.
06:41:06PM TOOK ME TO MY DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, TO THE MOVIES AND THE
06:41:11PM MALL.
06:41:11PM I USED THE BUS SYSTEM FOR A LONG TIME.
06:41:14PM I LIVED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I COULD WALK WHATEVER I
06:41:17PM NEEDED FOR THAT DAY AND FOR THE WEEK.
06:41:19PM THE FIRST THING I NOTICED WHEN I MOVED TO TAMPA, IS THAT YOU
06:41:22PM HAD TO HAVE A CAR.
06:41:23PM NUMBER ONE, IT'S HOT.
06:41:24PM AND THERE IS NOWHERE TO WALK TO GET YOUR DAILY NEEDS MET,
06:41:28PM BECAUSE EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE VERY SPREAD APART.
06:41:32PM YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CAR.
06:41:32PM NUMBER TWO, THE BUS SERVICE HERE TAKES FOREVER TO GET TO
06:41:37PM WHERE YOU WANT TO GET TO, BECAUSE THINGS ARE SO SPREAD
06:41:39PM APART.
06:41:40PM NUMBER THREE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS DID NOT HAVE A MAIN STREET
06:41:43PM AND DID NOT HAVE CORNER STORES.
06:41:45PM I AM JUST SO VERY USED TO BEING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I
06:41:49PM CAN WALK AND DO EVERYTHING THAT I NEEDED TO DO.
06:41:50PM SO -- I DO UNDERSTAND THAT EQUITY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
06:41:55PM I DO FEEL LIKE $1.5 MILLION FOR THIS PILOT PROGRAM FOR ROUTE
06:42:03PM 1 IS THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT WE CAN GRAB FOR NOW.
06:42:06PM IT IS A PILOT.
06:42:07PM SO LET'S SEE WHAT THE STUDY SHOWS AND SEE IF IT IS
06:42:10PM SUCCESSFUL.
06:42:11PM IF IT IS, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY PILOT IT TO OTHER AREAS IN
06:42:14PM TAMPA.
06:42:14PM NEBRASKA AVENUE WOULD BE GREAT.
06:42:16PM SO I DO SUPPORT THAT.
06:42:18PM AND I LOOK TO YOU AS THE PIONEERS TO BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO TAKE
06:42:22PM THAT FIRST STEP.
06:42:23PM WE DO NEED TO FUND HART.
06:42:25PM IT IS A FORM OF EQUITY TO PROVIDE BUS TRANSPORTATION.
06:42:28PM THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT CAN GIVE OUT FREE BUS TICKETS AND
06:42:31PM FREE MONTHLY PASSES.
06:42:33PM I HAVE BEEN A RECIPIENT OF THAT ONE TIME IN LIFE.
06:42:36PM AND I DO KNOW THAT IT WORKS AND IT IS FAIR.
06:42:38PM THE SECOND THING I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR
06:42:42PM BRINGING UP THOSE NONPROFITS AND BRING NAG INTO THE
06:42:45PM SUNSHINE.
06:42:45PM BECAUSE I PERSONALLY KNOW SOMEONE IN MY AREA WHO WAS AN
06:42:50PM INCUBATOR FOR ABOUT 200 NONPROFIT CHRISTIAN MINISTRIES THAT
06:42:54PM PROVIDE RESOURCES TO VM YBOR AND YBOR HEIGHTS RESIDENTS IN
06:43:00PM THE LOCAL AREA.
06:43:01PM LET'S ROTATE THAT OUT TO THE MOM AND POPS ORGANIZATIONS
06:43:05PM MAKING A IMPACT AND DIFFERENCE IN OUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:43:08PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:43:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:43:10PM YES, SIR.
06:43:10PM NEXT SPEAKER.
06:43:12PM >> GOOD EVENING, BOBBY CREIGHTON.
06:43:16PM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON SUPPORT OF FUNDING OF THE PILOT PROGRAM
06:43:19PM FOR HART.
06:43:20PM THE $1.5 MILLION.
06:43:22PM I GREW UP IN THE TAMPA AREA.
06:43:25PM KIND OF CARROLLWOOD, CITRUS PARK KIND OF AREA.
06:43:28PM AND I WILL ADMIT, THAT I HAD A CERTAIN STIGMA IN MY OWN
06:43:32PM HEART OR MIND ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND THE
06:43:34PM BUS.
06:43:35PM IT WAS JUST FOREIGN TO ME GROWING UP HERE.
06:43:37PM NOT SOMETHING THAT I REALLY INTERACTED WITH MUCH BECAUSE YOU
06:43:41PM NEEDED A CAR WHERE I LIVED.
06:43:43PM IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I EXPERIENCED.
06:43:45PM THAT CHANGED WHEN I DIDN'T HAVE A CAR AND LIVED IN A CITY
06:43:48PM WHERE IT WAS IMPRACTICABLE TO HAVE ONE AND I TOOK THE BUS
06:43:51PM AND THE DRAIN EVERYWHERE.
06:43:52PM THE BUS WAS MY LIFELINE, AND THAT REALLY SHOOK THAT STIGMA.
06:43:55PM BROKE IT TOTALLY APART.
06:43:57PM I SAW PEOPLE ON THE BUS.
06:43:59PM HARVARD PROFESSORS WITH CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, MOTHERS WITH
06:44:05PM THEIR CHILDREN, STUDENTS.
06:44:07PM I SAW ALL MATTER OF PEOPLE, ALL PARTS OF THE SPECTRUM OF
06:44:10PM SOCIETY ON THAT BUS AND MADE ME UNDERSTAND THIS IS A
06:44:13PM LIFELINE.
06:44:13PM THIS IS CRITICAL.
06:44:14PM I AM USING.
06:44:15PM SOMETHING THAT GIVES VALUE TO ME AND IT GIVES VALUE TO SO
06:44:18PM MANY OTHER PEOPLE AND I SUPPORT MANAGING THAT MORE
06:44:20PM ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
06:44:22PM I ALSO THINK OF MY PATIENTS AND CLIENTS INFORM MY
06:44:28PM PROFESSIONAL LIFE, I WORK WITH PEEP WITH DISABILITIES EVERY
06:44:31PM DAY AND MOSTLY ACQUIRED DISABILITIES.
06:44:33PM A STROKE OR A BRAIN INJURY OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT AFFECTS
06:44:36PM THEIR COGNITION AND THEIR MOBILITY.
06:44:38PM THEY ARE UNABLE TO GET AWAY WITHOUT A CAREGIVER OR FAMILY TO
06:44:43PM DRIVE THEM SOMEWHERE.
06:44:43PM HAVING ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION LIKE A BUS OR A TRAIN, IN
06:44:47PM THIS CASE THE BUS, THAT IS FREEDOM.
06:44:49PM THAT IS THEIR ABILITY TO GET WHERE THEY NEED TO GO WITHOUT
06:44:52PM HAVING TO RELY ON SOMEBODY DRIVING THEM IN A CAR.
06:44:54PM WE HEARD DURING THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE
06:44:59PM SUCCESS OF THE STREETCAR.
06:45:01PM I THINK THIS PARTICULAR ROUTE IS VERY COMPLIMENTARY TO THAT.
06:45:04PM I AM NOT GOING TO REHASH ANYTHING THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER
06:45:07PM MENTIONED.
06:45:08PM SOME REALLY GOOD FACTS THERE.
06:45:10PM PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS MOBILITY, IT IS ECONOMIC MOBILITY,
06:45:16PM SOCIAL MOBILITY.
06:45:17PM AND FREEDOM FOR PEOPLE THAT REALLY, REALLY NEED IT,
06:45:20PM ESPECIALLY IN OUR UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.
06:45:23PM I WILL LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE AND YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.
06:45:26PM AND I WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT THE PILOT PROGRAM AND LET'S SEE
06:45:30PM HOW IT GOES.
06:45:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:45:32PM NEXT SPEAKER.
06:45:34PM >> HUMAIRA AFZAL.
06:45:38PM MANY OF YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT I RIDE MY BIKE HERE.
06:45:42PM SAME WHEN I GO TO COUNTY COMMISSION.
06:45:44PM NOW IT IS RAINING OUT.
06:45:45PM IF THERE WAS A BUS I COULD FOLD UP MY SCOOTER AND TAKE THE
06:45:48PM BUS HOME.
06:45:49PM BUT I WILL BE STUCK WAITING.
06:45:50PM I'M HERE WITH OTHERS TO ASK TO YOU COMMIT THE $1.5 MILLION
06:45:54PM TO MAKE BUS ROUTE 1 FARE-FREE.
06:45:57PM TAMPA IS DECADES BEHIND MANY CITIES WHEN TO COMES TO PUBLIC
06:46:02PM TRANSPORTATION.
06:46:02PM AND TAMPA IS BEHIND MANY DEVELOPING COMPANIES WHEN IT COMES
06:46:08PM TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
06:46:10PM 1929 I LIVED IN PAKISTAN RESEARCHING.
06:46:12PM I NEVER DROVE.
06:46:14PM NINE MONTHS.
06:46:15PM TOOK PUBLIC BUSES.
06:46:16PM I GOT WHEREVER I NEEDED TO GO ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
06:46:18PM COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE GIVEN ALL KINDS OF REASONS FOR NOT
06:46:22PM WANTING TO SPEND CITY DOLLARS ON A BUSES ASSERTING THAT HART
06:46:26PM AND THE COUNTY NEEDS TO INVEST MORE.
06:46:27PM IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
06:46:28PM YOU CONTEND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND THE FUND SHOULD
06:46:31PM GO TO FIXING POTHOLES AND A ZERO SUM GAME AND PUT MONEY MOO
06:46:37PM BUSES OF TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS.
06:46:40PM DON'T USE "WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY "OR "WE NEED TO FIX
06:46:45PM THE POTHOLE FIRST" AS EXCUSES.
06:46:47PM THOSE ARE POLICY CHOICES .NOT NATURAL LAW.
06:46:50PM CHOICES YOU ARE MAKING.
06:46:52PM PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS A NECESSITY FOR A RESILIENT
06:46:55PM THRIVING CITY.
06:46:55PM WE ARE LITERALLY PAYING LOTS OF MONEY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
06:46:58PM ANYTHING EVEN APPROACHING AN EFFICIENT, EFFECTIVE SYSTEM TO
06:47:02PM GET PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED TO GO IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF
06:47:05PM TIME.
06:47:05PM WE NEED STRONG LEADERSHIP ON THIS AT THE CITY LEVEL -- THAT
06:47:09PM MEANS YOU.
06:47:09PM -- OR WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET OUT OF OUR TRANSPORTATION
06:47:13PM MESS.
06:47:13PM DECADES BEHIND.
06:47:14PM NOW IS THE TIME TO START.
06:47:15PM A SHORT LIST OF HOW WE ARE ALL PAYING.
06:47:18PM ACCORDING TO AAA COSTS A NATURAL AVERAGE OF $12,000 A YEAR
06:47:24PM -- THAT IS OVER -- $1,000 A MONTH TO OWN AND OPERATE A CAR.
06:47:28PM IT IS $1,000 A MONTH THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SPEND BECAUSE THEIR
06:47:35PM CAR DEPENDENT AND NO LIABLE MASS TRANSIT.
06:47:38PM IS WOULD SAVE A TYPICAL FAMILY ABOUT $12,000 A YEAR.
06:47:42PM THAT IS -- THAT IS MONEY THAT COULD BE SPENT ON OTHER
06:47:45PM THINGS.
06:47:45PM THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, BUSES, MEAN LESS ENVIRONMENTAL
06:47:51PM HARM AND WE ALL KNOW CAR EMOTIONS PLAY A HUGE ROLE IN
06:47:55PM CLIMATE CHANGE.
06:47:55PM FLORIDA, EXCESSIVE HEAT, FLOODING, ALL OF THAT, FEWER
06:48:00PM EMISSIONS MEANS BETTER AIR QUALITY.
06:48:02PM WE ARE ALL PAYING THE PRICE FOR CLIMATE CHANGE.
06:48:05PM REDUCE CONGESTION.
06:48:07PM NOTHING NEW MERE.
06:48:08PM PAYING WITH DECREASED QUALITY OF LIFE.
06:48:10PM THE STRESS OF SITTING IN TRAFFIC.
06:48:12PM BUT BUSES ARE KEY TO IMPROVING PUBLIC TRANSIT.
06:48:16PM THEY ARE NOT APPRECIATED BECAUSE CITIES, STATE AND FEDERAL
06:48:19PM LEADERS HAVE FAILED TO SUPPORT THEM AS A QUALITY PUBLIC
06:48:23PM SERVICE FOR DECADES.
06:48:23PM THEY INSTEAD SUNK BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO
06:48:27PM BUILDING MORE AND MORE ROADS THAT JUST LEAD TO MORE CARS AND
06:48:30PM TRUCKS AND MORE CONGESTION.
06:48:31PM BUT A WELL PLANNED FULLY FUNDED BUS SYSTEM CAN BE SO MUCH
06:48:36PM MORE.
06:48:36PM PLEASE START WITH THIS AND DEDICATE THE $1.5 MILLION.
06:48:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME.
06:48:47PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:48:48PM NATHAN HAGAN.
06:48:49PM I'M HERE ADVOCATING FOR HOUSING AND HART FUNDING.
06:48:52PM I DON'T THINK I HAVE BEEN HERE IN OVER SIX MONTHS BECAUSE --
06:48:56PM BECAUSE AS ACTIVE AS I AM, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR REGULAR
06:49:00PM PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A POLITICAL PROCESS DRIVEN BY
06:49:03PM PUBLIC COMMENT RATHER THAN ELECTIONS.
06:49:05PM NOW LIKE THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I CAN NO
06:49:09PM LONGER BALANCE MY PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL LIFE WITH THE
06:49:12PM LEVEL OF POLITICAL ENGAGEMENT THAT IS NEEDED OR THAT I HAD
06:49:15PM IN THE PAST.
06:49:15PM THAT IS NOT A ME STORY.
06:49:19PM IF WE HAVE ELECTIONS THAT REPRESENT MORE THAN 10% OF THE
06:49:23PM VOTERS IN THE CITY COUNCIL.
06:49:24PM THE COUNCIL MAY BENEFIT THE NEEDS OF THE CONSTITUENTS AT
06:49:29PM LARGE.
06:49:29PM MORE CLARITY WITH AT-LARGE SEATS WHAT WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE
06:49:34PM AND THAT WORK WILL BE MOVED QUICKLY.
06:49:36PM LOOKING AT THE DATA, HARD TO IMAGINE THE WAY TO SUPPRESS THE
06:49:40PM VOTE BUT TO HAVE IT IN ODD YEARS.
06:49:42PM I HOPE YOU CONSIDER COUNCILMAN VIERA'S PROPOSAL OF FUTURE
06:49:48PM COMPLICATIONS OF KEEPING THE STATUS QUO.
06:49:52PM WHAT DOES THIS DO WITH THE BUDGET?
06:49:54PM FOR I'M HERE TO APPEAL TO THE VOTERS WHO DIDN'T VOTE AND
06:49:57PM DESERVE A VOICE AND TOO OFTEN DO NOT HAVE ONE IN THIS
06:50:01PM BUILDING.
06:50:01PM MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHOSE VOICES DON'T GET HEARD WANT MORE
06:50:07PM MOVEMENT ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND TRANSPORTATION.
06:50:10PM EVERY POLL AND OUTREACH EFFORT THAT DOESN'T DID TO
06:50:15PM HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS WILL SAY THAT IS YOUR TOP
06:50:18PM PRIORITIES.
06:50:18PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE HISTORICAL
06:50:21PM INVESTMENTS THAT WERE MADE LAST YEAR AND I ASK YOU TO
06:50:24PM ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TAMPA WILL GO FURTHER AND SHOULD GO
06:50:28PM FURTHER.
06:50:29PM MY OPINION THAT IT WILL RAISE THE MILLAGE RATE AND WE
06:50:32PM DIDN'T.
06:50:32PM IS IT DIDN'T COME UP THIS YEAR.
06:50:34PM I KNOW WE NEED TO MAKE MORE INVESTMENT.
06:50:36PM I ASK YOU TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BE HERE.
06:50:39PM WHO CAN'T EVEN KNOW THEY SHOULD BE THERE AND INCREASE
06:50:44PM HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION.
06:50:45PM INVEST $10 MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR HOUSING $5 MILLION
06:50:50PM FOR THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
06:50:52PM $175 MILLION FOR FREE FARE TRANSIT OPTIONS ON FLORIDA
06:50:58PM AVENUE.
06:50:58PM I THINK OF THIS AS A DOWNPAYMENT FOR CITYWIDE.
06:51:02PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE REVENUE SHOWERS IS.
06:51:06PM WE NEED TO TALK OF CITYWIDE AND BEFORE THAT, GO TO PRECOVID
06:51:10PM SERVICE LEVELS FOR THE TAMPA TRANSIT NETWORK AS WELL.
06:51:13PM THAT COSTS MONEY.
06:51:14PM WE NEED TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT AS A CITY FOR CITY BUS
06:51:17PM SERVICE.
06:51:17PM AND THEN WHILE WE ARE AT IT, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
06:51:22PM WE ARE WITH A REVENUE PROBLEM.
06:51:24PM A REVENUE PROBLEM.
06:51:25PM NOT A SPENDING PROBLEM.
06:51:26PM I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERS THAT THERE IS
06:51:29PM A RAMPANT CORRUPTION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:51:31PM WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE.
06:51:32PM WE NEED TO MAKE A PAINFUL POLICY CHOICES TO ADDRESS HOUSING
06:51:36PM AND TRANSPORTATION, AND WE NEED TO INCREASE REVENUE.
06:51:38PM IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THE MILLAGE INCREASE, WE
06:51:43PM WILL NEVER, EVER DO THAT FOR THE REST OF TIME.
06:51:45PM THE ONLY WAY -- THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY FOR YOU TO INCREASE
06:51:49PM REVENUES WITHOUT TAX IS THROUGH DENSE DEVELOPMENT.
06:51:51PM SO THINK ABOUT THAT WITH THE CAMP PLAN.
06:51:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:51:56PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:51:59PM >> HELLO, DAYNA LAZARUS.
06:52:01PM ZIP CODE 33065.
06:52:05PM I'M HERE TODAY TO SAD ROTATE FOR HOUSING AND PRIMARILY FOR
06:52:09PM PUBLIC TRANSIT.
06:52:10PM I AM ADVOCATING FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO USE
06:52:13PM IT.
06:52:14PM AND THOSE WHO ALREADY USE IT.
06:52:15PM HART HAS A RIDERSHIP OF 40,500 PEOPLE PER DAY.
06:52:19PM THIS IS AN EQUITY ISSUE.
06:52:22PM WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT TO BE FUNDED AND
06:52:26PM PRIORITIZED FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
06:52:28PM CHLOE CONEY SAID TO ME WHEN I HAD WORKED AT THE TPO IN 2018,
06:52:33PM YOU CAN TELL HOW MUCH THE CITY CARES OF ITS POOR PEOPLE BY
06:52:36PM HOW IT TREATS THE BUS SYSTEM.
06:52:38PM THERE ARE PEOPLE IN YOUR DISTRICT WHO RELY ON THE BUS TO GET
06:52:42PM GROCERIES, MEDICAL CARE AND SO MUCH MORE.
06:52:45PM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, SENIORS AND WORKERS.
06:52:48PM AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO WOULD USE THE BUS IF
06:52:51PM IT WAS VIABLE IF IT CAME FREQUENTLY.
06:52:53PM I WOULD DITCH MY CAR AND I WOULD USE THE BUS.
06:52:55PM AND I WANT THAT.
06:52:57PM JUST LIKE I HAD IN PORTLAND, OREGON WHEN I LIVED THERE.
06:52:59PM JUST LIKE YOU HAVE IN EUROPE WHEN YOU VISIT.
06:53:02PM SO WE ARE ADAMANTLY ASKING FOR $5.1 MILLION TO MAKE ROUTE 1
06:53:09PM FARE-FREE.
06:53:10PM WE WERE ASKING FOR $10 MILLION.
06:53:12PM IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GETTING THOSE E-MAILS.
06:53:15PM BUT WE WANT $10 MILLION, $20 MILLION, $40 MILLION, $80
06:53:19PM MILLION, $100 MILLION.
06:53:20PM WE NEED TO FUND PUBLIC TRANSIT AND WE ARE HERE TODAY TO
06:53:25PM DEMONSTRATE THERE IS A DEMAND.
06:53:26PM THERE IS SUPPORT FROM THE PUBLIC.
06:53:27PM AND WE DON'T MIND ASKING FOR IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE IS A
06:53:31PM RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT.
06:53:33PM THAT IS 4:1.
06:53:35PM FOR EVERY $1 INVESTED.
06:53:37PM $4 IS GENERATED IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
06:53:40PM ROUTE 1 HAS THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP IN THE COUNTY AND THE
06:53:44PM CITY RIVALING NEBRASKA.
06:53:49PM THE ROUTE ON NEBRASKA IS GREAT BECAUSE IT HAS SOME BUS-ONLY
06:53:53PM AREAS.
06:53:53PM FLORIDA ON THE OTHER HAND DOESN'T.
06:53:55PM AND IT IS ALWAYS LATE.
06:53:56PM SO MOVING UP THAT FREQUENCY FROM 20 MINUTES TO 15 MINUTES
06:54:00PM WILL MAKE UP A BIG DIFFERENCE AND IMPROVING THE TRIP
06:54:05PM RELIABILITY.
06:54:05PM THE ONE GOES BY CITY HALL.
06:54:08PM DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE COULD BE HERE IF THEY COULD
06:54:11PM JUST HOP ON THE BUS AN NOT HAVE TO WORRY OF FARE OR
06:54:14PM NAVIGATING PARKING TO ADVOCATES FOR THEIR NEEDS AND WHAT
06:54:19PM THEY WANT THE BUDGET SPENT ON.
06:54:21PM THIS KIND OF THING.
06:54:22PM IF WE DO THIS RIGHT AND FUND ROUTE 1 SAND GO FARE-FREE, CAN
06:54:27PM BE HUGE FOR TAMPA.
06:54:28PM TINY BABY STEP OF SHOWING OUR CITY PUBLIC TRANSIT.
06:54:34PM THE COMMITMENT THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
06:54:36PM IS ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES.
06:54:38PM AND ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES FOR AFFORDING AFFORDABILITY.
06:54:45PM SORRY.
06:54:45PM THIS CAN BE THE BEGINNING OF THE MULTIMODAL SYSTEM WITH A
06:54:51PM STREETCAR, HART BRT, DEDICATED LANES, MOVING PREMIUM TRANSIT
06:55:00PM DOWNTOWN.
06:55:00PM THIS COULD CAN BE THE START OF SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL.
06:55:03PM SO PLEASE INVEST $1.5 MILLION IN MAKING ROUTE 1 FARE-FREE.
06:55:08PM THANK YOU.
06:55:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:55:10PM NEXT WEAKER.
06:55:11PM >> ALANA BRASIER, CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENT FOR MY ENTIRE 38
06:55:17PM YEARS OF LIFE.
06:55:18PM ALSO FORMER CITY OF TAMPA STAFF FOR THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT
06:55:22PM WITH VISION ZERO COORDINATOR, CHIEF PLANNER, LETTER VISION
06:55:26PM ZERO APPLICATION PECULIAR, OUR TAMPA MOVES PLAN.
06:55:28PM EQUITY IS THE BACKBONE OF THE TAMPA MOVES PLAN.
06:55:32PM PRIORITIZES ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS INCLUDING
06:55:35PM TRANSIT.
06:55:35PM TRANSIT IS ONE OF THE MOST EQUITABLE WAYS A CITY AND A
06:55:40PM COUNTY CAN INVEST IN ACTUALLY MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH THE
06:55:46PM CITY.
06:55:46PM GETTING PEOPLE TO JOBS.
06:55:47PM I ENCOURAGE THIS ADMINISTRATION, THIS COUNCIL TO EXPLORE
06:55:50PM WHAT OUR PEERS ARE DOING.
06:55:54PM WHAT OUR OTHER, WHAT CHARLOTTE IS DOING TO SUPPORT IN
06:55:58PM TRANSIT NETWORK.
06:55:59PM TRANSIT AGENCY.
06:56:00PM WHAT IS PORTLAND DOING.
06:56:01PM WHAT IS RICHMOND DOING.
06:56:02PM ALL THESE CITIES.
06:56:03PM WE ARE NOT JUST IN A BUBBLE.
06:56:05PM WE CAN LOOK WHAT OUR PARTNERS ARE DOING TO SEE HOW THEY ARE
06:56:09PM INVESTING IN TRANSIT.
06:56:10PM ONE OF THE MOST EQUITABLE WAYS TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS
06:56:14PM GETTING AROUND.
06:56:14PM AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
06:56:15PM AS DEVELOPMENT IS BOOMING.
06:56:17PM TRANSIT HAS TO BE A PRIORITY.
06:56:19PM IN ADDITION TO RESURFACING AND SIDEWALKS, WE JUST WHOLE SALE
06:56:24PM NEED TO TAKE A LOOK BOTH COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION HOW WE
06:56:30PM ARE ACTUALLY PRIORITIZING THE MONEY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR
06:56:34PM COMMUNITIES ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SAY SOMETHING IS OUR NUMBER
06:56:36PM ONE PRIORITY.
06:56:37PM WHERE IS THE BUDGET BACKING THAT UP.
06:56:39PM THAT'S IT.
06:56:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:56:42PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:56:44PM >> TATIANA MORALES, 33606.
06:56:48PM I ACTUALLY WANTED TO START WITH -- I WAS THINKING A LOT OF
06:56:51PM ALL THE PROPOSALS AND WHAT WAS GOING ON.
06:56:53PM START WITH A MLK QUOTE.
06:56:55PM BUDGETS ARE A MORAL DOCTRINE.
06:56:57PM YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CITIZENS AND
06:57:00PM THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA WHEN YOU ARE STATING WHAT IS THE
06:57:03PM REQUEST OF 1% OF THE BUDGET TO MAKE FARE-FREE AND MAKE
06:57:08PM ACCESS TO TRANSIT FOR WHAT WOULD BE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
06:57:10PM JUST REMEMBER THESE ARE MORAL DECISIONS YOU ARE MAKING OF
06:57:13PM THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY.
06:57:14PM SO I ACTUALLY WANTED TO START WITH WHY I GOT INTO ALL OF
06:57:17PM THIS.
06:57:17PM URBANISM, TRANSIT, ALL THESE THINGS.
06:57:20PM SEVEN YEARS AGO MY DAD HAD A STROKE.
06:57:22PM AND THREE WEEKS AGO, MY DAD ALSO HAD A STROKE.
06:57:26PM WHEN YOU HAVE A STROKE, YOU CAN'T USE TRANSIT FOR HALF A
06:57:28PM YEAR TO A YEAR.
06:57:29PM I MEAN YOU CAN'T DRIVE.
06:57:30PM SO YOU HAVE TO COMPLETELY REDEFINE HOW DO YOU GET AROUND.
06:57:34PM MY DAD LIVING IN A SMALL TOWN OUT OF MIAMI COULDN'T GET
06:57:37PM ANYWHERE.
06:57:38PM COULDN'T DO ANYTHING.
06:57:39PM FUNDAMENTALLY CUT OFF FROM THE SOCIETY AROUND HIM SPENDING
06:57:44PM TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF UBER AND OTHER OPTIONS.
06:57:47PM WHY I GOT INTO IT.
06:57:48PM I STARTED LOOKING IN WHY DON'T WE DO BETTER WITH PEOPLE WITH
06:57:52PM DISABILITIES, OUR HOMELESS PEOPLE, ALL THE WORKING-CLASS
06:57:55PM PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
06:57:56PM IT TURNED INTO REALIZING THAT WE SPENT A VERY LONG TIME IN
06:57:59PM THIS COUNTRY DISINVESTING IN TRANSIT.
06:58:01PM DISINVESTING IN THE WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY.
06:58:04PM RIGHT NOW IN THE RAIN, AT&T WORKERS ARE STRIKING BECAUSE
06:58:07PM THEY WANT BETTER WAGES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
06:58:09PM AND I ONLY SEEN ONE OF YOU THERE.
06:58:11PM I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, WHEN WE MAKE THE DECISIONS, WE TALK OF
06:58:16PM THE FUTURE.
06:58:17PM THE FIVE MINUTES SOMEONE WAITS FOR THE BUS IN A POURING
06:58:21PM RAIN, IF THEY GET A JOB, GET TO WORK ON TIME, WHAT HAPPENS
06:58:25PM TO THEIR FUTURE.
06:58:25PM FARE-FREE IS MAKING THE FIRST STEP OF MEANINGFUL INVESTMENT.
06:58:30PM IN MIAMI, I WAS ABLE TO ADVOCATE THAT THEY INCREASE THE
06:58:33PM BUS SERVICE IN MY OWN HOMETOWN.
06:58:35PM INCREDIBLE.
06:58:36PM GOT MY DAD TO THE GROCERY STORE.
06:58:37PM TO HIS HOSPITAL VISITS.
06:58:39PM TO MANY JOBS.
06:58:40PM NOW HE IS MAKING THE SAME DECISION -- HE IS IN REHAB.
06:58:43PM I CAME UP EARLY TO COME ADVOCATE FOR THIS BECAUSE I WANT
06:58:47PM THAT TO HAPPEN TO THE PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
06:58:48PM THOSE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE EVERYWHERE.
06:58:50PM DISABILITY CAN GET TO ANYONE AT ANY MOMENT.
06:58:52PM IT BE HAPPEN TO YOU AT ANY MOMENT.
06:58:55PM SO GOING BACK TO ROUTE 1 FARE-FREE.
06:58:59PM STRIVING ISN'T -- I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK THAT
06:59:02PM DRIVING IS THE OPTION THAT EVERYONE HAS.
06:59:05PM BUT IT IS NOT AN OPTION FOR MANY, MANY PEOPLE, KIDS,
06:59:09PM SENIORS.
06:59:09PM DISABILITIES.
06:59:10PM I RIDE THE BUS.
06:59:12PM I RODE ROUTE 5, 6 AND 1 FREQUENTLY.
06:59:15PM YOU SEE WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE.
06:59:16PM PEOPLE WHO WORK AT HOSPITALS.
06:59:18PM CHANGE BEDS.
06:59:19PM PEOPLE WHO MOVE OUR COMMUNITY.
06:59:20PM AND I HEARD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS OVER THIS YEAR, BUT I
06:59:23PM WILL BE TALKING ABOUT PAVEMENT, PAVEMENT, PAVEMENT.
06:59:25PM WE ARE DOING THAT.
06:59:25PM I HEAR VIK COME WE ARE DOING.
06:59:28PM WE ARE TRYING.
06:59:29PM WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.
06:59:31PM WE CAN REPAVE EVERY ROAD BUT DON'T CREATE THE BETTER
06:59:34PM TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES THAT THIS CITY DESERVES LIKE
06:59:38PM OTHER CITIES ST. PETERSBURG ARE DOING, WE WILL NEVER MOVE
06:59:41PM FORWARD.
06:59:42PM COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, $5 MILLION FOR THREE YEARS TO PROVIDE
06:59:45PM OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET THEM.
06:59:47PM WE NEED TO SAY WE ARE MAKING THE RIGHT MORAL DECISIONS FOR
06:59:50PM TAMPA THANK YOU.
06:59:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:59:53PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
06:59:55PM >> THIS IS REALLY FRUSTRATING --
07:00:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
07:00:09PM >> SORRY, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
07:00:13PM I WANT TO TALK OF THE BUDGET BECAUSE THIS IS A BUDGET
07:00:15PM MEETING.
07:00:15PM I AM GOING TO GET UP HERE AND TALK OF THE BUS.
07:00:18PM COMMONSENSE BE DAMNED.
07:00:20PM VIK BHIDE, EVERY TIME I SEE HIM DO A PRESENTATION, HE SAYS
07:00:24PM 23% OF MOST FOLKS' INCOME IN THE CITY OF TAMPA GOES TO
07:00:29PM TRANSIT.
07:00:29PM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE HART THE BUMP THAT IT NEEDS.
07:00:32PM IN GENTLEMAN CAME UP HERE.
07:00:34PM AND HE SAID THERE ARE 3,000 PEOPLE A DAY WHO ARE RIDING THAT
07:00:38PM HARTline ON LINE 1.
07:00:43PM 1.1 MILLION A YEAR.
07:00:46PM WHY ARE WE NOT CULTIVATING THIS?
07:00:50PM WE SPENT 30 MINUTES DISCUSSING $2.9 MILLION.
07:00:55PM CHARITABLE FUNDS THAT WILL NOT REACH THAT MANY DAMN PEOPLE.
07:00:59PM IT WILL NOT REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS THIS BUS LINE WILL
07:01:02PM REACH.
07:01:02PM IT WILL NOT HELP AS MANY PEOPLE.
07:01:05PM THEN MISS KOPESKY COMES UP HERE AND PUTS UP A SPREADSHEET
07:01:11PM AND IT HAS THAT THE TROLLEY, THE STREET CAR, GETS $1.5
07:01:15PM MILLION A YEAR.
07:01:16PM AND THEY DID -- THEY DID A SURVEY IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO.
07:01:20PM 65% OF THOSE RIDERS ARE CITIZENS.
07:01:22PM 30% OF THEM ARE TOURISTS.
07:01:25PM WHY IS THERE EVEN ANY QUESTION IN ANYBODY'S MIND UP THERE
07:01:29PM THAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP THE IMPOVERISHED OF OUR CITY.
07:01:32PM I HAVE A FRIEND.
07:01:33PM HER DAUGHTER IS 27 YEARS OLD.
07:01:35PM SHE HAD MULTIPLE SEIZURES.
07:01:37PM SHE HAS LOST HER ABILITY TO DRIVE.
07:01:39PM THEY GAVE DENNIS ROGERO DRIVER'S LICENSE BACK.
07:01:43PM $900 A MONTH FOR HER INSURANCE.
07:01:47PM SHE IS NEVER GOING TO DRIVE AGAIN.
07:01:49PM BUT YET, EVERYBODY WHO IS SITTING UP THERE AND THE MAYOR
07:01:53PM THINK THAT PUTTING $1.5 MILLION -- JUST 1%.
07:01:58PM JUST A LITTLE TINY DOT -- THE EQUIVALENT OF ME HANDING
07:02:03PM SOMEBODY $10 TODAY IS OFFENSIVE TO ANYONE ON THAT COUNCIL
07:02:08PM BEFUDDLES ME.
07:02:10PM YOU ARE GIVING UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OVER MILLION
07:02:15PM PEOPLE IN ONE YEAR.
07:02:16PM ONE YEAR, YOU CAN HELP A MILLION CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.
07:02:18PM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
07:02:21PM EVERY DAY.
07:02:22PM 3,000 PEOPLE A DAY DURING THE WEEK.
07:02:24PM YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT IT.
07:02:25PM BAM.
07:02:27PM YOU ARE DONE.
07:02:27PM YOU ARE THE GREATEST -- THE GREATEST POLITICIANS IN THIS
07:02:31PM CITY BY PASSING IT, EVEN IF THE MAJOR THINKS IT IS A PI SS
07:02:35PM POOR IDEA.
07:02:36PM WHY?
07:02:37PM WHY DOES SHE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN POVERTY?
07:02:40PM WHY WOULD ANY OF YOU WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN POVERTY.
07:02:44PM THINK ABOUT IT.
07:02:45PM YOU SLEEP ON THAT TONIGHT.
07:02:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:02:48PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:02:50PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:02:51PM NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
07:02:56PM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY SPEAK TODAY.
07:02:58PM I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE BUDGET OFFICE AND CFO
07:03:06PM DENNIS ROGERO.
07:03:06PM THEY HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF ANSWERING OUR REQUESTS
07:03:11PM PROMPTLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
07:03:13PM AND THAT IS A GOOD FEELING KNOWING THAT THERE IS SOMEONE ON
07:03:16PM THAT OTHER SIDE.
07:03:17PM I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME CRITICAL CONCERNS REGARDING THE
07:03:20PM FISCAL YEAR '25 BUDGET FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
07:03:23PM FIRST, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, THE CAD SYSTEM.
07:03:27PM IN FISCAL YEAR '22.
07:03:31PM THE COUNCIL APPROVED $2 MILLION FROM THE ARPA MONEY TO
07:03:36PM ENHANCE THE CAD SYSTEM; HOWEVER, OUR DISPATCH SOFTWARE IS
07:03:40PM NEARLY A DECADE OUTDATED AND VEHICLE LOCATORS ARE STILL
07:03:44PM ABSENT.
07:03:45PM INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THESE ISSUE ARE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO
07:03:48PM PROGRESS.
07:03:49PM THE HIRING OF ANTI-UNION AT $995.
07:03:56PM WE NEED TO UP C DATE THIS TECHNOLOGY.
07:03:58PM FIRE STATION 24, IN 2022, $12 MILLION WAS APPROVED FOR
07:04:05PM DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND PROCUREMENT OF NEW FIRE STATION 24.
07:04:09PM THIS PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR
07:04:13PM '23.
07:04:13PM IN FISCAL YEAR '24, WITH THIS COUNCIL HERE, THERE WAS AN
07:04:19PM ALLOCATED $1.6 MILLION AND $16 MILLION WERE ALLOCATED TO BE
07:04:24PM SPENT IN FISCAL YEAR 25.
07:04:26PM THE CURRENT RECOMMENDED BUDGET NOW ALLOWS ZERO DOLLARS FOR
07:04:32PM THIS PROJECT.
07:04:32PM TFR MAINTENANCE SHOP AND SUPPLY IN 2022.
07:04:37PM CIP REFLECTED $12 MILLION ALLOCATED WITH THE COMPLETION
07:04:42PM EXPECTED IN FISCAL YEAR '23; HOWEVER, IN FISCAL YEAR '24,
07:04:49PM ADOPTED 1.2 MILLION WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THE TFR
07:04:53PM MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY.
07:04:54PM TODAY, THERE HAS BEEN NO PROGRESS IN FISCAL YEAR 25 SHOWS
07:05:00PM ZERO DOLLARS FOR A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
07:05:03PM IT IS CLEAR THAT THESE PROJECTS, ALTHOUGH AID PROVED AND
07:05:06PM FUNDED REMAIN STALLED.
07:05:07PM MY QUESTION TO COUNCIL, WHY ARE THESE ESSENTIAL PROJECTS NOT
07:05:11PM RECEIVING.
07:05:13PM ESSENTIAL PROJECTS NOT ADVANCING DESPITE THE FUNDS THAT HAVE
07:05:16PM BEEN RECEIVED AND YOUR COMMITMENT AND APPROVAL.
07:05:18PM IN REFERENCE TO THE OPERATING BUDGET, IN FISCAL YEAR '23,
07:05:24PM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE BUDGET WAS $130 MILLION WITH $1.06 MILLION
07:05:28PM UNUSED AND RETURNED TO THE GENERAL FUND.
07:05:31PM WITH OUR CRITICAL NEEDS, WHY ARE WE NEARLY RETURNING 1% OF
07:05:35PM OUR BUDGET?
07:05:36PM IN CONCLUSION, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 744 SWORN FIRE FIGHTERS
07:05:42PM AGAINST A BADGED 793, AND OPERATING WITH SIGNIFICANT
07:05:46PM VACANCIES AND ARE NOT ABLE TO FILL VACANCIES INCLUDING
07:05:51PM CLOSED APPLICATION PERIODS.
07:05:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
07:05:57PM >> THANK YOU.
07:05:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
07:05:59PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:06:00PM >> GOOD EVENING, MARY BETH WILLIAMS.
07:06:04PM I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK.
07:06:07PM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF, THE
07:06:11PM ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, FOR THE SUPPORT THAT FRIENDS OF THE
07:06:14PM RIVERWALK HAS RECEIVED.
07:06:16PM WE PROVIDE A VARIETY OF PROGRAMMING FOR THE TAMPA RIVERWALK
07:06:21PM AND SERVICES TO THE CITY OF TAMPA WE HAVE MADE A FUNDING
07:06:34PM REQUEST THIS YEAR AND SHARED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
07:06:36PM AND OUR STAFF THE REASONING BEHIND OUR FUNDING REQUEST.
07:06:39PM WE, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK YOU FOR OUR SUPPORT AND WORK
07:06:42PM FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU COLLABORATIVELY THIS YEAR.
07:06:45PM THANK YOU.
07:06:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:06:48PM ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
07:06:51PM IF NOT, GO TO CITY COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
07:06:53PM I WILL KICK IT OFF SINCE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN.
07:06:55PM SO I HAVE HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUES AND I HEARD FROM THE
07:07:00PM PUBLIC.
07:07:01PM YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS THIS MILLION AND A
07:07:06PM HALF DOLLARS FOR -- FOR ROUTE 1.
07:07:08PM I THINK IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, IT IS A FANTASTIC MOTION
07:07:11PM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:07:14PM IT WAS MENTIONED THAT HART HAS A BOARD MEETING ON MONDAY.
07:07:18PM I DON'T KNOW -- WE HAVE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD HERE.
07:07:21PM IF THAT WILL BE BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED.
07:07:24PM IS THAT --
07:07:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I SENT AN E-MAIL TO MY AIDE, IF THIS PASSES I
07:07:32PM WILL DO A MEMO REQUESTING THAT.
07:07:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:07:35PM I SIT ON THE TAMPA HISTORIC STREETCAR BOARD.
07:07:39PM AND BEFORE THAT -- NOW BEING ON THE BOARD AND SEEING THE
07:07:43PM DATA COMING IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND THEY COME AND PRESENT TO
07:07:46PM US, THEY KEEP IT GRANT FUNDING TO KEEP IT FARE-FREE.
07:07:50PM AND IT IS CURRENTLY FARE-FREE.
07:07:52PM IN THE PERIOD OF FARE-FREE AND THE STREETCAR SINCE I USED
07:07:57PM SINCE IN COLLEGE -- YEAH, IN COLLEGE.
07:07:59PM WE SEE RIDERSHIP IN RECORD NUMBERS.
07:08:01PM AND NOT BECAUSE -- I HAVE RIDDEN IT ENOUGH.
07:08:04PM NOT JUST TOURISTS.
07:08:06PM I SEE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE AREA.
07:08:07PM I SEE PEOPLE THAT GO FROM DOWNTOWN TO YBOR CITY BECAUSE THEY
07:08:11PM DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR PARKING.
07:08:13PM THEY ARE ALREADY HERE DOWNTOWN AS EMPLOYEES.
07:08:15PM THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT REASONS.
07:08:17PM THE FACT IS, IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
07:08:21PM YOU LOOK AT THE HART BUS SYSTEM -- I USED THE BUS SYSTEM
07:08:25PM MANY TIME.
07:08:26PM WHERE I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA, I CAN CONVENIENTLY WALK TO THE
07:08:30PM NEAREST CORNER AND TAKE ME TO THE BUS THAT WILL TAKE ME TO
07:08:33PM THE MARION CITY TRANSIT CENTER.
07:08:35PM HOW I GET TO CITY HALL.
07:08:36PM I USED TO USE THE CURRIER, NOW I CAN WALK.
07:08:39PM USE THE YELLOW UBERS.
07:08:41PM IF THE WEATHER IS GOOD, I WILL WALK.
07:08:43PM PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS SUCH A CRITICAL NEED OF ANY
07:08:46PM COMMUNITY.
07:08:46PM IT IS EXPENSIVE TO OWN A CAR.
07:08:48PM I PAY MONTHLY JUST UNDER $300 FOR CAR INSURANCE.
07:08:52PM THEN I PAY FOR GAS.
07:08:54PM AND THEN -- EVENTUALLY I WILL HAVE MY CAR PAID OFF.
07:08:58PM I HAVE A CAR PAYMENT.
07:08:59PM MAINTENANCE BILLS, SO MANY THINGS THAT COME WITH OWNING A
07:09:03PM VEHICLE.
07:09:03PM NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD THAT.
07:09:05PM WE TALK OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
07:09:07PM WE TALK OF THE PRICE OF GOOD.
07:09:09PM EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP, THE VERY LEAST THAT I CAN DO.
07:09:12PM I KNOW THERE IS A DEEPER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS MILLION AND A
07:09:16PM HALF DOLLARS, BUT TO MAKE IT FARE-FREE, MY HOPE IS THAT
07:09:21PM WATCH WILL HAPPEN WITH THE STREETCAR IS THAT IT WILL
07:09:23PM ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO RIDE THE BUS.
07:09:25PM NOT JUST ABOUT THAT.
07:09:26PM ROUTE 1.
07:09:27PM WHY DO WE CHOOSE ROUTE 1, ONE OF THE BUSIEST IF NOT THE
07:09:31PM BUSIEST.
07:09:31PM I BELIEVE IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO USF.
07:09:34PM USF STUDENTS ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN.
07:09:38PM HOP ON THE STREETCAR THAT IS FARE-FREE.
07:09:41PM THEY DON'T HAVE WORRY ABOUT PARKING.
07:09:43PM GO THROUGH THIS AREA ALL OVER YBOR CITY AND BRINGS AWARENESS
07:09:48PM TO PUBLIC TRANSIT.
07:09:53PM NUMBER ONE.
07:09:54PM THEY OFFER PEOPLE SAVINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PAYING THOSE
07:09:57PM FARES.
07:09:57PM INCREASES FREQUENCY.
07:09:58PM THAT IS ANOTHER THING, WE LIVE IN THE COUNTRY OF
07:10:00PM CONVENIENCE.
07:10:01PM WE HAVE THESE DRIVE-THRUS AND PEOPLE WANT THINGS DELIVERED
07:10:04PM AND WHAT NOT.
07:10:05PM GOING TO THE BUS, IF IT IS RUNNING AT A 30-MINUTE SCHEDULE
07:10:09PM AND COULD BE RUNNING AT A 15-MINUTE SCHEDULE, INTERVALS.
07:10:12PM YOU THINK YOU CAN HOP OFF YOUR BUS, GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE AND
07:10:17PM WITHIN 15 MINUTES, GETTING YOUR NEXT BUS AND STILL MAKING IT
07:10:21PM TO WORK ON TIME.
07:10:25PM SO I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS -- THIS IDEA.
07:10:28PM I THINK IT LAYS DOWN THE FOUNDATION FOR INCREASED AWARENESS,
07:10:32PM POSSIBLY FUTURE INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW, FROM A VARIETY OF
07:10:35PM SOURCES.
07:10:35PM I HOPE THE CIT GETS RENEWED COME NOVEMBER.
07:10:39PM I MEAN THAT IS A MAKE OR BREAK THING.
07:10:42PM I HOPE EVENTUALLY ONE DAY WE PASS SOME KIND OF TRANSIT
07:10:46PM REFERENDUM TO HELP US EXPAND THIS BUS SERVICE, BUT I THINK
07:10:50PM THAT IS GREAT.
07:10:50PM THAT IS MY SPIEL ON THE HART FUNDING, I SUPPORT THAT.
07:10:56PM REGARDING THE SOCIAL ACTION ITEMS.
07:10:58PM IT WAS BROUGHT UP OF THE $25,000 THRESHOLD.
07:11:01PM YOU KNOW, WE ARE GIVING THIS KIND OF MONEY $25,000 AND UP TO
07:11:07PM ORGANIZATIONS.
07:11:07PM THEY SHOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
07:11:08PM WE SAW MOST RECENTLY WITH THE NAACP.
07:11:11PM I THINK THAT IS ONLY FAIR.
07:11:12PM IT IS PUBLIC MONEY.
07:11:14PM WE ARE GIVING IT UP.
07:11:16PM WE ARE GIVING THAT MONEY TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
07:11:18PM THAT IS REALLY IS.
07:11:21PM JUST A RANDOM CONCOCTION OF COMMENTS.
07:11:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: AFTER COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:11:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK, HENDERSON, VIERA.
07:11:32PM YES, MA'AM.
07:11:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
07:11:34PM I AM -- I REALLY GREATLY AM TOUCHED BY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE
07:11:44PM WHO HAVE REALLY TAKEN THIS CAUSE ON AS THEIR OWN.
07:11:47PM THE STORIES I HAVE HEARD ABOUT PEOPLE NEEDING TO USE TRANSIT
07:11:54PM FOR WHATEVER REASON.
07:11:55PM BUT -- BUT I HAVE A FEW THINGS I LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE
07:12:00PM PUBLIC.
07:12:01PM FIRST OF ALL, BEING A -- A POST FROM INSTAGRAM.
07:12:07PM THIS WAS --
07:12:10PM >> I DON'T HAVE THAT COPY.
07:12:12PM CAN I HAVE YOURS.
07:12:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:12:14PM FIRST, A PHOTO FROM INSTAGRAM THAT HAPPENED JUST LAST WEEK,
07:12:21PM WHERE THE MAYOR ON A PODCAST, A DEVELOPMENT PODCAST SAID --
07:12:26PM CAN YOU ZOOM IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, TRANSPORTATION -- UH-OH.
07:12:32PM >> I PRESSED THE WRONG BUTTON.
07:12:34PM I AM FIRED.
07:12:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK SO.
07:12:38PM YOU ARE NOT GETTING OUT THAT EARLY.
07:12:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHERE IS THAT BUTTON.
07:12:43PM [LAUGHTER]
07:12:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TRANSPORTATION IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
07:12:46PM AND THIS WAS THE PODCAST THAT MAYOR CASTOR DID LAST WEEK.
07:12:51PM SHE IS 100% RIGHT.
07:12:54PM IT IS OUR BIGGEST ISSUE.
07:12:55PM NEXT IS THE -- THE TPO DID A STUDY FOR LONG-RANGE
07:13:01PM TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
07:13:03PM WHAT THEY DID AFTERWARDS WAS -- THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL OUT
07:13:06PM THE DATA THAT FOCUSED JUST ON THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:13:09PM GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT ONE.
07:13:11PM THE TOP OPERATE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NEW, FASTER
07:13:16PM TRANSIT.
07:13:16PM LOOK AT THAT.
07:13:17PM ANYTHING IN BLUE, THAT WAS THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
07:13:20PM NEW FASTER TRANSIT.
07:13:21PM AND WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN BY THAT IS -- IS A RAIL.
07:13:24PM LIKE PASSENGER RAIL.
07:13:26PM BUT THE THING ABOUT PASSENGER RAIL IS IF YOU DON'T LIVE
07:13:29PM WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF IT, YOU STILL GOT TO GET HOME.
07:13:32PM AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET HOME, MR. WILLITS TALKED ABOUT
07:13:37PM THAT A LITTLE EARLIER.
07:13:38PM WE HAVE TO HAVE A NETWORK OF GETTING PEOPLE ON A BUS TO
07:13:41PM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:13:42PM WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE FROM THAT RAIL LINE THAT WE
07:13:46PM CAN'T AFFORD RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT
07:13:49PM LATER.
07:13:49PM AS SOON AS WE GET MORE PEOPLE RIDING THE BUS DOING THIS.
07:13:52PM THANK YOU.
07:13:53PM THE NEXT SLIDE IS ABOUT THE COST OF THIS.
07:13:57PM THE STREETCAR EXTENSION WE NEED 50 MILLION.
07:14:00PM THE BRT.
07:14:01PM WE NEED $95 MILLION.
07:14:03PM THE BRT IS THE SAME ROUTE OF ROUTE 1 BY AND LARGE.
07:14:08PM AND WHAT THIS WILL DO FOR A FRACTION -- FOR MAYBE 1% OF THAT
07:14:12PM MONEY IS GIVE THE ABILITY TO GO FASTER.
07:14:15PM AND GET MORE PEOPLE ON TRANSIT.
07:14:17PM NEXT.
07:14:18PM THERE IS A STORY IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES RECENTLY THAT
07:14:24PM BASICALLY SAID THAT THE NUMBER OF CASH-STRAPPED HOUSEHOLDS
07:14:28PM IN FLORIDA HAVE INCREASED NOW AND 13% OF HOUSEHOLDS NOW
07:14:31PM STAND BELOW THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL OF $31,200 FOR A
07:14:36PM FAMILY OF FOUR.
07:14:36PM FROM 2021 TO THE FOLLOWING YEAR, A MINIMUM COST OF HOUSE
07:14:42PM HOLD NECESSITY SUCH AS HOUSING, FOOD AND TRANSPORTATION FOR
07:14:45PM A SINGLE ADULT IN FLORIDA INCREASED FROM $28,344 TO $30,084.
07:14:53PM THIS IS GOING TO BE -- DO NOTHING BUT INCREASE, BECAUSE THIS
07:14:56PM IS FROM '21-'22.
07:15:00PM THANK YOU, MISS SHARPE.
07:15:03PM I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MR. MIRANDA SAID EARLIER.
07:15:06PM I REALLY THINK THAT -- THAT YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
07:15:12PM AND OTHER PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT IT TODAY WHO HAVE LIVED
07:15:16PM ELSEWHERE.
07:15:16PM THEY SAY BUS SERVICE IS WHAT THEY ARE USED TO.
07:15:20PM YOU SAID THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT USED TO IT.
07:15:23PM AND SO -- SO WHAT -- WHICH -- AND THAT IS THE WHOLE REASON
07:15:26PM THAT WE NEED TO TAKE AWAY THE BARRIER OF RIDING THE BUS.
07:15:30PM IF WE TAKE AWAY THE BARRIER OF RIDING THE BUS, YOU HOP OFF
07:15:33PM THE STREETCAR AND GET ON THE BUS.
07:15:35PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT.
07:15:37PM I HAVE MULTIPLE FRIENDS WANT TO RIDE WITH ME TO RIDE THE BUS
07:15:42PM BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW.
07:15:43PM WORRIED.
07:15:44PM THEY ARE US HAVE.
07:15:44PM $2.
07:15:45PM I WILL BLOCK EVERYBODY ELSE FROM RIDING THE BUS.
07:15:47PM YOU LITERALLY JUST HOP ON.
07:15:49PM SO I -- AND, OF COURSE, GOING ON WITH SAVING THE
07:15:54PM ENVIRONMENT.
07:15:54PM ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
07:15:57PM SO TODAY I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD -- I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE
07:16:00PM OUT OF THE GATE NOT TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME
07:16:05PM REALLY INTERESTING SUPPORT.
07:16:07PM WE HAVE GOTTEN SUPPORT FROM DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD
07:16:09PM ASSOCIATIONS.
07:16:10PM HARBOUR ISLAND SOUTH WROTE A LETTER WHEN THEY HEARD ABOUT
07:16:14PM THIS, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HELP PROVIDE MORE -- MORE ABILITY
07:16:18PM FOR PEOPLE TO GET AROUND.
07:16:19PM SO I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE MY MOTION.
07:16:22PM I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE $1.5 MILLION FUNDING FOR CIP
07:16:30PM PROJECT 1002659, WHICH IS EV CHARGING STATIONS AND
07:16:36PM INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADE FROM THE FY '25 BUDGET AND REALLOCATE
07:16:41PM THE $1.5 MILLION TO HART FOR ONE-YEAR FARE-FREE PILOT
07:16:48PM PROGRAM 15-MINUTE HEADWAYS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
07:16:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
07:16:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND.
07:16:54PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOU WANT TO SPEAK FIRST?
07:16:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
07:16:57PM I APPRECIATE IT.
07:16:58PM OKAY, SO LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FOR A SECOND.
07:17:01PM AS AN EDUCATOR, I KNOW FIRST HAND THAT ROUTE 1 IS NOT THE
07:17:05PM ONLY ROUTE WHERE THERE ARE DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE RIDING THE
07:17:08PM BUS.
07:17:08PM SO FOR ONE ROUTE, WHICH I ACTUALLY RODE ON FRIDAY.
07:17:14PM I GOT TO EXPERIENCE IT.
07:17:15PM AND I COULD SEE THE NEED, OF COURSE, OF PEOPLE RIDING ROUTE
07:17:21PM 1.
07:17:21PM IT WAS CROWDED.
07:17:22PM THE BUS WENT ALONG -- CHUGGING ALONG FROM DOWNTOWN ALL THE
07:17:26PM WAY TO THE DEPOT JUST OFF OF FLETCHER AVENUE.
07:17:32PM SO I ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
07:17:33PM BUT IT IS ABOUT THE NEED WHO NEEDS TO PAY FOR THE RIDERSHIP.
07:17:42PM EVERYBODY WHO GETS ON 9 BUS.
07:17:44PM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD TO GET ON THE BUS.
07:17:46PM I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL IF THOSE WHO ARE
07:17:50PM DISADVANTAGED AND NEED TO RIDE FOR FREE REGARDLESS OF ROUTE,
07:17:55PM REGARDLESS OF ROUTE.
07:17:56PM THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME.
07:17:58PM BECAUSE THAT ROUTE MAY BE HEADED TOWARD WESTSHORE WHERE
07:18:02PM THERE IS 25 KIDS AT THE BUS STOP THAT GO TO JEFFERSON HIGH
07:18:06PM SCHOOL EVERY DAY.
07:18:07PM IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT FLORIDA AVENUE.
07:18:11PM IT MAY BE A HIGH RIDERSHIP, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY REASON
07:18:16PM TO CONSTITUTE THAT IT SHOULD BE FREE.
07:18:19PM IT SHOULD BE ABOUT THE NEED.
07:18:20PM I JUST WROTE A QUICK NOTE ON MY -- LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
07:18:24PM IT IS ABOUT THE DISADVANTAGED EQUITY STUDY.
07:18:27PM HAS THAT BEEN DONE?
07:18:30PM HART IS IN FINANCIAL STRAITS.
07:18:32PM I HAPPEN TO SIT ON THE HART BOARD.
07:18:34PM THE MOST CHALLENGING POSITION THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE.
07:18:37PM I HAD TO -- EVERY MONTH, I HAVE TO SIT AND LISTEN TO THE
07:18:41PM EMPLOYEES -- SEE, I GET TO TALK ABOUT IT HERE BECAUSE I
07:18:44PM WASN'T ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT AT THE HART MEETING.
07:18:47PM BUS DRIVERS WHO WERE NOT PAID THEIR TIME AND A HALF.
07:18:50PM NOT PAID AT ALL.
07:18:51PM AND THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR THAT.
07:18:52PM THEY GOT A $1500 SUPPLEMENT, BUT REALLY BECAUSE OF THE
07:18:57PM OVERTIME AND THEIR OWN CONTRACT, IT REALLY TOTALED $26
07:19:01PM MILLION BUT HART GAVE EVERYBODY A CHECK FOR $1500 AND CALLED
07:19:05PM IT A DAY.
07:19:05PM PAID THE TEAMSTERS AND EMPLOYEE WHO DROVE OUT OF COVID OUT
07:19:11PM OF THEIR FUNDING.
07:19:11PM AND THEY CAN'T ADDRESS THAT.
07:19:13PM IT IS GOING TO GO INTO ARBITRATION.
07:19:15PM THE SAD PART IS, THAT THE GOVERNMENT SENT THEM THE MONEY FOR
07:19:20PM THAT VERY REASON, TO KEEP THEIR EMPLOYEES ON BOARD.
07:19:23PM AND SO FOR ME, THIS IS A VERY CHALLENGING ISSUE.
07:19:27PM FOR US TO -- NEEDS TORQUE BE THE PERSON WHO IS GIVING.
07:19:36PM I THINK HART SHOULD REASSESS THEIR BUDGET.
07:19:39PM I THINK THAT HART SHOULD REASSESS THEIR BUDGET.
07:19:42PM BECAUSE THEY TOOK HART AWAY FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:19:45PM I BELIEVE.
07:19:46PM I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL OF THE DETAILS ABOUT IT, BUT THEY
07:19:49PM SEPARATED THESE TWO ORGANIZATIONS FOR A REASON.
07:19:51PM AND WE DO PROVIDE SUPPORT.
07:19:53PM NOW THE STREETCAR IS THE OTHER PART TO THAT.
07:19:55PM THE STREETCAR, THE PEOPLE WHO GET ON THE STREETCAR CAN
07:19:59PM AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT.
07:20:00PM THAT IS JUST THE BOTTOM LINE.
07:20:02PM I RODE BOTH ON FRIDAY, AND THE PEOPLE WHO GOT ON THE
07:20:05PM STREETCAR CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT.
07:20:07PM AND THAT ONE IS FREE.
07:20:08PM IT IS A TOURIST ATTRACTION.
07:20:12PM AND IT DOES PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE OVER
07:20:16PM HERE TO HAVE A NICE LITTLE HOOK-UP OF FREE TRANSPORTATION.
07:20:21PM BUT THOSE ARE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY PAY.
07:20:24PM AND YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
07:20:27PM SO IF WE ACTUALLY TOOK THE TIME TO SAY, HEY, HART, WHY DON'T
07:20:32PM YOU IDENTIFY PEOPLE WHO NEED THE SUPPORT TO RIDE THE BUS FOR
07:20:36PM FREE, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY LIVE.
07:20:38PM AND START THERE.
07:20:39PM BECAUSE AFTER THIS $1.5 MILLION, WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE
07:20:45PM NEXT ROUTE?
07:20:46PM AND THEN THE NEXT ROUTE?
07:20:48PM WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?
07:20:50PM WHEN WE JUST HAVE THE SAME POT OF MONEY.
07:20:52PM THAT IS THE SIMPLISTIC WAY OF ME LOOKING AT IT.
07:20:56PM I RODE THE BUS AS A TEENAGER.
07:20:57PM I ACTUALLY ENJOYED IT.
07:20:59PM BECAUSE I WAS RAISED IN A SINGLE PARENT HOUSE HOLD AND HOW I
07:21:04PM GOT TO WORK.
07:21:04PM SOMETIMES I HAD TO WALK.
07:21:05PM THIS IS A DIFFERENT GENERATION.
07:21:07PM NOT AS SAFE AS IT USED TO BE BACK THEN.
07:21:10PM SO HERE IT IS.
07:21:10PM I AM SAYING IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEND $1.5 MILLION, WE SHOULD
07:21:17PM GIVE IT TO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY NEED IT.
07:21:20PM NOT JUST TO MAKE THE FLORIDA AVENUE CORRIDOR.
07:21:23PM AND FOR THE -- FOR THE SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS, THIS ONE HAS
07:21:28PM BEEN ON MY RADAR SINCE BEFORE --
07:21:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE SEPARATE IT AND DO THE HART THING
07:21:33PM FIRST AND THEN THE --
07:21:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
07:21:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
07:21:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER THIS MOTION GO RIGHT TO THE SOCIAL
07:21:42PM ACTION.
07:21:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CHAIR, I CAN COMPLY WITH YOUR REQUEST.
07:21:45PM NO PROBLEM.
07:21:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, VIERA.
07:21:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET ME WRAP UP MY SENTENCE.
07:21:50PM UP TONIGHT WANT YOU TO THINK THAT I DON'T SUPPORT FREE
07:21:53PM TRANSPORTATION.
07:21:53PM BUT JUST FREE TRANSPORTATION FOR WHOM.
07:21:56PM IT SHOULD BE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT IS
07:22:00PM ONE ROUTE.
07:22:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL GO TO VIERA, MIRANDA, CLENDENIN,
07:22:04PM AND THEN CARLSON.
07:22:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:22:08PM I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS.
07:22:09PM I SUPPORT THIS IDEA.
07:22:11PM AND I WAS FAVORABLY DISPOSED TO IT WHEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
07:22:15PM FIRST MENTIONED IT A WEEK OR TWO AGO.
07:22:18PM AND I STILL SUPPORT IT TODAY.
07:22:20PM WE ALWAYS NEED TO HAVE A BALANCE.
07:22:22PM STREET REPAVING IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT
07:22:26PM AND DOESN'T MEAN WE AVOID OUR DUTIES TO DO WHAT WE CAN FOR
07:22:31PM MASS TRANSIT.
07:22:32PM MANY OF US SUPPORTED IT ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION.
07:22:35PM I SUPPORTED IT WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE OF A PENNY SALES TAX IN
07:22:40PM 2016, IT IS NOT POPULAR RUNNING FOR OFFICE ON RAISING TAXES
07:22:45PM BUT I DID THAT.
07:22:46PM SUPPORTED IN 2018, 2022.
07:22:49PM AND IF IT COMES UP AGAIN, I WILL SUPPORT IT AGAIN.
07:22:51PM I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A SEPARATE REVENUE SOURCE FOR MASS
07:22:55PM TRANSIT.
07:22:55PM BUT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T GET WHAT WE WANT, RIGHT, OR WHAT
07:22:59PM WE NEED, THAT WE JUST ABANDON THE WHOLE IDEA.
07:23:03PM IT MOVES US FORWARD ON SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY WANT.
07:23:05PM IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
07:23:08PM THIS MOVES US FORWARD ON MASS TRANSIT.
07:23:11PM ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I SUPPORT THIS IS BECAUSE THIS HAS
07:23:15PM REAL PROGRESS FOR HART'S CLIENTS AND FOR FOLKS WHO TAKE THE
07:23:20PM HART BUS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
07:23:21PM I AM IN MY SECOND YEAR OF BEING CHAIRMAN OF HART.
07:23:24PM I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, THAT IS A POSITION THAT I ENJOY A
07:23:27PM GREAT DEAL.
07:23:28PM PROBABLY MY LAST YEAR DOING IT, I WOULD THINK.
07:23:30PM BURR BEING ON THE HART BOARD, I LOVE IT FOR A LOT OF REASONS
07:23:35PM AND I AM VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT.
07:23:37PM I AM ENTHUSIASTIC BECAUSE OF THE WORKERS AT HART, OPERATORS
07:23:42PM AND MECHANICS, AND YOU WILL THE DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT MAKE
07:23:46PM HART RUN.
07:23:46PM I TALK TO A LOT OF THEM LIKE I DO ALL THE TIME, THEY SEE IT
07:23:50PM AS A CALLING.
07:23:50PM THEY SEE IT AS A PUBLIC SERVICE AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE
07:23:53PM DOING AND THEY ARE VERY PASSIONATE WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
07:23:56PM THEY ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS.
07:23:58PM FOLKS THAT TAKE THE HART BUS.
07:24:00PM THESE ARE EVERYDAY WORKING PEOPLE.
07:24:02PM MR. HAGAN SAID SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
07:24:05PM A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT TAKE THE HART BUS ARE NOT THE
07:24:08PM PEOPLE THAT WE HEAR FROM ALL THE TIME, WEEK TO WEEK.
07:24:10PM AND ESPECIALLY IN OUR CITY OF TAMPA ELECTIONS.
07:24:14PM WON'T GET ON THAT, RIGHT.
07:24:16PM BUT THERE ARE FOLKS WE DON'T ALWAYS HEAR FROM.
07:24:18PM I REMEMBER -- IF YOU ALL REMEMBER SCOTT PAYNE USED TO BE A
07:24:24PM DISTRICT 7 COUNCILMAN, NOW AUTO ROMAN CATHOLIC DEACON.
07:24:28PM ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE, HE WROTE THE PEOPLE YOU FIGHT FOR
07:24:34PM ARE NOT THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR YOU.
07:24:35PM NOT THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE.
07:24:36PM THEY ARE NOT THE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP ONE WAY OR
07:24:40PM THE OTHER.
07:24:40PM THEY ARE EVERYBODY, WHETHER THEY VOTE OR NOT, THE PEOPLE.
07:24:44PM THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.
07:24:45PM WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PROJECT -- THIS PROPOSAL PUT FORWARD BY
07:24:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT MOVES US
07:24:52PM FORWARD FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY.
07:24:59PM HART BUSES.
07:25:00PM MOMS AND DADS TRYING TO MAKE A DOLLAR OUT OF $.15.
07:25:03PM SENIOR CITIZENS.
07:25:04PM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
07:25:05PM PEOPLE WITH CHALLENGES IN LIFE THAT A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T
07:25:08PM EVEN BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT.
07:25:10PM DON'T EVEN BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT.
07:25:12PM JUST THE WAY IT IS UNFORTUNATELY.
07:25:13PM THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT SMACKS OF EMPATHY AND OF COMPASSION
07:25:19PM AND I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
07:25:20PM 100% FOR IT.
07:25:22PM I WILL COURAGE FOLKS TO SUPPORT IT.
07:25:24PM AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION IF WE DO SUPPORT THIS.
07:25:27PM TO HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE HART BOARD.
07:25:29PM I DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE HART BOARD, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT
07:25:32PM OUR BOARD WILL SUPPORT THIS, BY THE WAY.
07:25:34PM I DON'T THINK I WILL GO OFF ON A -- ON A RISK AT ALL SAYING
07:25:37PM THAT.
07:25:37PM SO I INTEND TO SUPPORT THIS, AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:25:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:25:42PM VIRUS, CLENDENIN AND CARLSON.
07:25:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ALWAYS HAVE THE HONOR OF FOLLOWING THE
07:25:48PM ATTORNEY.
07:25:48PM LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
07:25:51PM WHEN I LISTEN, ALL THE PROPOSALS THAT COME HERE ARE VALID.
07:25:55PM AND I CERTAINLY HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK BUT
07:25:59PM I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
07:26:01PM THE AREA THAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER BUS 3 AND BUS 4.
07:26:06PM GUESS WHICH ARE THOSE, THE ONES THAT USED TO TAKE ME TO THE
07:26:12PM HOUSING PROJECT AT 1860 KENDRICK DONNELLY KENNEL COURT AT
07:26:20PM 26th AVENUE AND 20st STREET.
07:26:21PM WE USED TO WALK, ALL OF US.
07:26:23PM FROM 26th AVENUE AND 20th STREET THROUGH JEFFERSON HIGH
07:26:28PM SCHOOL ON EUCLID AND HIGHLAND AND NEVER BE LATE.
07:26:31PM NOW YOU GOT THE SCHOOL BUS WITH 50 KIDS IN IT, AND IT IS
07:26:37PM ALWAYS LATE.
07:26:37PM THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, BUT IT MEANS A LOT.
07:26:39PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT POVERTY AND YOU LOOK AT THINGS THAT -- WHY,
07:26:44PM WHY?
07:26:45PM MAYBE WE GET SOME OF THIS MONEY AND HAVE TWO TRIALS INSTEAD
07:26:48PM OF ONE SO MUCH MORE FOR THIS ONE AND THE OTHER ONE.
07:26:57PM YOU WANT TO A BUSINESS ACUMEN AND STUDY IT.
07:27:01PM IF YOU EAT FILET MIGNON AT A REST WHICH I DID ONE TIME, WHY
07:27:08PM PUSH THE LOWEST VOLUME -- HIGHEST VOLUME IN SALES AND THE
07:27:11PM LOWEST VOLUME IN PROFIT.
07:27:12PM THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
07:27:13PM IF I WERE TO SELL YOU A DRINK, A COFFEE AND DESSERT.
07:27:19PM I MAKE MORE MONEY ON YOU THAN I DO THE FILET MIGNON.
07:27:23PM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHY DO WE HAVE TO TRY -- NOT TRY AN
07:27:29PM AREA THAT IS MORE THAN LIKELY THE MOST NEEDED FOR BUSES.
07:27:32PM WHEN WE HAVEN'T TRIED IT I DON'T WANT TO SAY A FILET MIGNON.
07:27:42PM I WANT A CUP OF COFFEE, A SANGRIA AND A DESSERT.
07:27:46PM AND MAKE MORE MONEY OF SPENDING $12 THAN $50 ON THE FILET
07:27:52PM MIGNON.
07:27:52PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING PERCENTAGEWISE -- WHAT I AM SAYING IS,
07:27:57PM WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT BOTH ITEMS.
07:27:59PM HOW DO WE DO IT?
07:28:01PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING OURSELVES.
07:28:02PM I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MISS HURTAK.
07:28:04PM I ALSO HAVE TO AGREE WITH MISS HENDERSON.
07:28:08PM DO WE TRY?
07:28:09PM HOW DO YOU DO IT?
07:28:10PM HOW DO YOU FUND IT?
07:28:11PM YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT $1.5 MILLION.
07:28:13PM HOW DO YOU SPLIT IT UP?
07:28:17PM HOW DO YOU GET IT DONE?
07:28:18PM HOW DO YOU GET BACK INFORMATION IF YOU ONLY TRY ONE.
07:28:26PM NAME ME AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT ONLY PUT ONE THING ON A
07:28:32PM MAIL-OUT AND GOT ELECTED.
07:28:33PM I DON'T KNOW OF ANY.
07:28:35PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BOTH.
07:28:43PM I AM PUTTING IT OUT THERE SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND
07:28:46PM NECESSITY.
07:28:46PM WHO NEEDS IT THE MOST IS NOT WHAT I SAY ENOUGH OR WHAT THE
07:28:49PM COUNCIL SAYS, BUT THE RESULTS OF THOSE WHO RIDE THE BUS.
07:28:52PM WHEN THERE ARE TODAY AND HOW MANY RIDE THE BUS WITHIN THAT
07:28:57PM CERTAIN TIME IN BOTH AREAS.
07:28:58PM AND THEN YOU HAVE A WORKABLE IDEA OF HOW DO YOU IT.
07:29:01PM THAT IS ALL I AM THROWING OUT.
07:29:03PM I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR BOTH OF THEM, BUT I CAN'T.
07:29:06PM SO THIS IS WHAT I AM SAYING.
07:29:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN
07:29:11PM CARLSON.
07:29:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I AM -- THIS IS AN INTERESTING
07:29:15PM DISCUSSION.
07:29:15PM I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOSING SIGHT OF, THE PROPOSAL IS A PILOT
07:29:19PM PROGRAM.
07:29:19PM NOT NECESSARILY A -- A PERMANENT -- PERMANENT OUTCOME.
07:29:25PM AND WHALE SAY IS WITH THE STREETCAR KEEPS GETTING THROWN OUT
07:29:31PM THERE.
07:29:32PM UNTIL WE DID WHAT WE DID WITH THE STREETCAR IT WAS AN
07:29:35PM UNPROVEN CONCEPT.
07:29:36PM IT NOW IT IS APPROACH CONCEPT AND WE CAN BUILD WITH THAT AND
07:29:40PM WHAT THE SUCCESSFUL FORMULA IS.
07:29:42PM WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO WORK OR NOT ALREADY BUT
07:29:45PM TRANSPORTATION AS THE MAYOR SAID AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
07:29:51PM TRANSPORTATION IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE STATE OF
07:29:53PM FLORIDA CITY OF TAMPA.
07:29:54PM WE ARE BEYOND WHAT MOST WILL THINK OF THE ISSUE.
07:29:58PM WE ARE IN CRISIS MODE OF HOW TO MOVE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE
07:30:01PM CITY TAMPA.
07:30:03PM I AM NOT A HUGE FAN.
07:30:04PM I RECOGNIZE WHERE FUNDING COMES FROM.
07:30:06PM I SAID THAT DURING THE PRESENTATION EARLIER.
07:30:09PM THE WAY THIS IS CRAFTED IS HART IS A COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY.
07:30:14PM THE TAXES THAT APPEAR ON YOUR BILLS -- YOUR MILLAGE TAX THAT
07:30:19PM COMES IN.
07:30:19PM THAT IS HOW IT IS FUNDED.
07:30:20PM GUESS WHAT, WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
07:30:22PM AND I CAN -- I CAN HANG MY HAT ON THAT ALL DAY LONG AND WILL
07:30:28PM CONTINUE TO BACKSLIDE ON MOVING PEOPLE AROUND THE CITY OF
07:30:31PM TAMPA.
07:30:31PM I AM READY TO TAKE THE LEAP OF FAITH THAT -- BECAUSE WE
07:30:35PM DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.
07:30:36PM I THINK THAT.
07:30:42PM IT IS A CORRIDOR THAT IS INTERESTING.
07:30:44PM BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY SPENDING
07:30:48PM $95 BIOLOGICAL ON A BRN THIS CORRIDOR.
07:30:52PM IF WE SPEND THAT WITHOUT TESTING IT.
07:30:54PM IS THAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO?
07:30:56PM THIS IS THE BUSINESS MODEL OF -- OKAY, IS THE DEMAND THERE.
07:31:00PM LET'S GO WITH WHAT IS REASONABLE EXPENDITURE TO TEST THE
07:31:06PM CONCEPT TO SEE IF THERE IS A DEMAND.
07:31:09PM AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT WORKS, THEN WE CAN LOOK FOR HOW WE
07:31:14PM EXPAND OR HOW WE MODEL MOVING PEOPLE AROUND HILLSBOROUGH
07:31:21PM COUNTY.
07:31:21PM I THINK IT IS WORTHY OF A GO.
07:31:23PM I THINK IT IS WELL THOUGHT-OUT.
07:31:25PM AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCILWOMAN FOR BRINGING IT TO THIS
07:31:29PM COUNCIL.
07:31:29PM THANK YOU.
07:31:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:31:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC.
07:31:34PM AND ALSO THE ONES WE RECEIVED TODAY AND THE ONES WE RECEIVED
07:31:39PM BY E-MAIL.
07:31:39PM I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH TRANSIT INITIATIVES 20
07:31:44PM OR SO YEARS THROUGHOUT THE AREA AND THE STATE AND OTHER
07:31:47PM PLACES.
07:31:47PM I UNDERSTAND THE CALL FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE -- THE -- THIS
07:31:52PM COMMUNITY DEFINITELY THE NEEDS TRANSIT SOLUTIONS AND PUSHING
07:32:02PM TRANSIT SOLUTIONS OVER THE YEARS.
07:32:04PM THE ISSUE IS, WHO SHOULD FUND IT.
07:32:06PM I FUNDAMENTALLY DO NOT AGREE THAT THE CITY SHOULD FUND IT.
07:32:09PM SPOKE TO THOSE AROUND 1979.
07:32:18PM THE REASON THEY MOVED HART OUT AND THE HOUSING FUND OUT, SO
07:32:22PM THAT AD VALOREM CAPACITY THAT THE CITY'S AD VALOREM RATE WAS
07:32:27PM 9% AND REDUCED TO 5% TO 5.2%.
07:32:32PM AND TAXING CAPACITY MOVED OUT OF THE CITY AND MOVED INTO THE
07:32:34PM OTHER AGENCIES.
07:32:35PM THE IDEA IS THAT THEY WERE SELF-SUPPORTED AND FOCUS ON
07:32:40PM SOLVING THESE ISSUES.
07:32:42PM A SEPARATE GOVERNMENT AGENCY AND SUPPOSED TO BE SOLVING
07:32:47PM THESE ISSUE.
07:32:47PM HART HAVE ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND SOUNDS LIKE THEY
07:32:50PM FIX ALL THE ISSUES.
07:32:51PM NEED TO FIX THE ISSUE AT HART 37 IF HART DOESN'T WORK, WE
07:32:56PM NEED TO CHANGE THE LEGISLATION TO MOVE HART BACK IN THE CITY
07:32:58PM OR HART'S PORTION BACK INTO THE CITY.
07:33:01PM A LOT OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, THE AIRPORT AND PORT.
07:33:09PM IF THE AIRPORT SAID WE NEED MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE FLIGHT OR
07:33:16PM FUND THE PORT.
07:33:18PM WE WOULD SAY NO.
07:33:19PM AIRPORT HAS FUNDING AUTHORITY AND THE PORT HAS A SMALL POT
07:33:23PM THAT THEY USE AND RECOVERING.
07:33:25PM AND OTHER AGENCIES THAT THE COUNTY ASKS US TO SUBSIDIZE
07:33:28PM SOMETHING, WE WOULDN'T EITHER.
07:33:29PM A SEPARATE GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
07:33:32PM THE CITY OF TAMPA AS WE HEARD ALL NIGHT AND DIFFERENT
07:33:35PM HEARINGS WAY BEHIND IN ALL KIND OF SPENDING AND WAYS TO SAVE
07:33:38PM MONEY THAT MOST OF US THINK WE CAN, WE SHOULD SPEND THAT TO
07:33:42PM GO TO THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS.
07:33:52PM I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE BOARD MEMBERS OF HART AND I DON'T THINK
07:33:56PM THERE IS SUPPORT THE CITY COMING IN AND SPENDING THIS.
07:33:58PM CERTAINLY NOT SUPPORT FROM FOLKS WHO HELPED CREATE THIS AND
07:34:02PM MOVE IT OUT YEARS AGO.
07:34:03PM THE ISSUE IS RECURRING REVENUE.
07:34:05PM WE CAN SAY A PILOT AND ONE-TIME THING.
07:34:08PM NEXT YEAR, WHO WILL FUND IT.
07:34:09PM SET THE EXPECTATION THAT IT IS GOING TO BE FREE.
07:34:12PM WHAT HAPPENS ON THE STREETCAR IF THE STATE STOPS FUNDING IT.
07:34:15PM IT IS NOT APPROACH MODEL BECAUSE THE STATE SUBSIDIZING IT.
07:34:20PM THE SAME THING HERE.
07:34:21PM WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION AND THE LAST COUPLE OF
07:34:24PM CAMPAIGNS WERE SCREWED UP, IT WILL TAKE US YEARS TO COME
07:34:27PM BACK TO IT.
07:34:28PM HERE IS THE THING.
07:34:29PM I MIGHT GET MY NUMBERS SLIGHTLY WRONG, HART AT A MAXIMUM
07:34:33PM $1.5 MILLION.
07:34:35PM BUT HAS THE CAPACITY TO GO UP TO $ MILLION.
07:34:38PM NOT A SINGLE BOARD MEMBER OF HART'S BOARD HAS MADE A MOTION
07:34:42PM TO INCREASE IT.
07:34:42PM RIGHT NOW THE TOTAL BUDGET AROUND $1 10 MILLION.
07:34:45PM $78 MILLION, $80 MILLION FROM THE .5 MILLION.
07:34:50PM INCREASE IT TO 3 MILL, THEY WILL HAVE $500 MILLION.
07:34:54PM $500 MILLION WITHOUT GETTING ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION PASSED.
07:34:58PM WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO DO THAT?
07:35:00PM THE HART BOARD HAS TO APPROVE IT.
07:35:02PM THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE IT.
07:35:04PM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE IT.
07:35:06PM TEMPLE TERRACE -- PLANT CITY PULLED OUT.
07:35:10PM TEMPLE TERRACE HAS TO DO IT.
07:35:11PM AND THE COUNTY HAS TO DO IT AGAIN TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT
07:35:14PM AND THE VOTERS HAVE TO PROVE IT.
07:35:16PM A LONG PROCESS.
07:35:17PM IF WE THINK THE PROCESS IS A BROKEN, WE NEED TO GO TO THE
07:35:21PM STATE AND FIX IT AND MOVE OUR PART OF HART BACK IN.
07:35:25PM THE SIMPLE SOLUTION TO PUT MONEY IN.
07:35:28PM IN A YEAR TO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO SUPPORT
07:35:30PM IT AGAIN.
07:35:31PM AND THE PEOPLE WHO RELY ON FREE TRANSIT WILL NOT HAVE IT
07:35:35PM ANYMORE.
07:35:36PM WE NEED A SYSTEMIC SOLUTION.
07:35:37PM WE ALL AGREE WE NEED TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
07:35:40PM HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT AND MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE.
07:35:44PM WE NEED TO MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE BY ASKING THE HART BOARD TO
07:35:48PM DO A TOUGH JOB GOING TO THE VOTERS AND INCREASE THE AD
07:35:53PM VALOREM RATE.
07:35:53PM THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
07:35:54PM BY LAW, THEY CAN DO IT.
07:35:56PM BUT HAVE TO MAKE THE GUTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
07:35:58PM NOT A SINGLE MOTION TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE AND BECAUSE
07:36:02PM THEY HAVEN'T HAD A BOARD MEETING, NO MOTION TO EVEN ASK US
07:36:06PM FOR THIS MONEY OR TO SAY THEY WILL SPEND IT.
07:36:09PM WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIX THIS.
07:36:10PM WE NEED THE HART BOARD TO DO THE TOUGH JOB AND LOOK AT THE
07:36:13PM MONEY.
07:36:13PM WE NEED -- WE NEED TO GET -- HALF A MILL WILL INCREASE THEIR
07:36:17PM BUDGET BY $50 MILLION, OR $80 MILLION.
07:36:20PM MUCH MORE THAN A $1.5 MILLION.
07:36:22PM IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, GO TO THE STATE AND GET THE LEGISLATURE
07:36:25PM TO CHANGE IT.
07:36:26PM IF WE DON'T LIKE WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE OR THE COUNTY
07:36:29PM COMMISSION, WE NEED TO VOTE TO GET THE COUNTY COMMISSION OUT
07:36:34PM AND STATE LEGISLATORS OUT.
07:36:35PM WE NEED TO FIX THIS FUNDAMENTALLY, BECAUSE IF CITY CAN'T
07:36:42PM VOTE ON THIS.
07:36:42PM MY COMMITMENT IS TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
07:36:44PM I WANT TO DO IT SYSTEMATICALLY AND NOT PUT A BAND-AID.
07:36:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN, HURTAK AND VIERA.
07:36:50PM GO AHEAD.
07:36:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM SAD TO HEAR THIS IS KIND OF BECOMING A
07:36:58PM HOT POTATO.
07:36:59PM IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE THROWING THIS.
07:37:01PM IF WE DON'T -- IF THE COUNTY IS NOT DOING IT.
07:37:04PM AND THE HART IS NOT DOING ANYTHING.
07:37:06PM WELL, WE SAY -- I HEARD THE CITIZENS -- WE ALL HEAR THE
07:37:09PM CITIZENS.
07:37:09PM THEY WANT TRANSPORTATION.
07:37:10PM AND THIS IS A WAY TO DO IT, QUITE SIMPLY.
07:37:14PM WHAT -- WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY IS LET'S WAIT.
07:37:17PM LET'S WAIT.
07:37:18PM LET'S WAIT AND GO THROUGH THIS LONG PROCESS.
07:37:26PM COUNTY WILL NOT DO IT.
07:37:28PM THE COUNTY WON'T DO IT RIGHT NOW.
07:37:30PM IT IS VERY CLEAR WHERE THE COUNTY IS.
07:37:33PM THE REASON THE ROUTE WAS CHOSEN THE BRT ROUTE.
07:37:38PM IT GOES USF.
07:37:39PM THE REASON IT THIS WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE OF LEGISLATION IN THE
07:37:42PM STATE LEGISLATURE THIS PAST YEAR, A MUCH HIGHER THRESHOLD TO
07:37:46PM GET A BRT GOING.
07:37:47PM SO IN ORDER TO GET THE RIDERSHIP WE NEED, THIS IS A WAY TO
07:37:52PM DO THAT.
07:37:53PM SO IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A ONE-YEAR COMMITMENT.
07:37:57PM THE ONE-YEAR COMMITMENT WILL SHOW THAT THE BRT WILL BE
07:38:01PM VIABLE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO SHOW NOW.
07:38:03PM THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT.
07:38:04PM AS FAR AS WHEN IT GOES TO THE OTHER THINGS THAT DON'T COME
07:38:09PM TO US FOR MONEY.
07:38:10PM THE AIRPORT AND THE PORT GET THEIR MONEY FROM FDOT.
07:38:13PM THEY HAVE GET TONS OF MONEY.
07:38:15PM WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM ANY MONEY, AND FDOT WON'T FUND
07:38:20PM ITS BUS.
07:38:20PM IT IS SIMPLE.
07:38:21PM THEY SIMPLY WON'T DO IT.
07:38:23PM THEY CAN HELP WITH CERTAIN THINGS BUT THEY CAN NOT FUND THE
07:38:26PM ACTUAL RUNNING OF THE BUS.
07:38:29PM THEY CAN HELP WITH THE -- WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
07:38:32PM THEY CAN NOT HELP WITH OPERATIONS.
07:38:33PM THAT IS WHAT THIS IS IT.
07:38:35PM THIS IS AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE.
07:38:36PM SO I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO ARE -- ARE SUPPORTING THIS.
07:38:40PM THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TALKED ABOUT.
07:38:45PM AND TALKED ABOUT.
07:38:46PM AND TALKED ABOUT AND TALKED ABOUT.
07:38:48PM HOW DO WE IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION.
07:38:50PM HOW DO WE DECREASE CARS ON THE ROAD.
07:38:52PM THIS IS A WAY TO TRY.
07:38:54PM AND I AM REALLY SORRY TO HEAR THAT PEOPLE AREN'T FOLLOWING
07:38:57PM AT LEAST GIVE IT A TRY.
07:38:59PM BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, IF WE DON'T TRY, WE ARE GOING TO BE
07:39:04PM HERE NEXT YEAR WITH THE EXACT SAME THING BUT WITH A BIGGER
07:39:07PM PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.
07:39:09PM AND I JUST -- I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T AT LEAST TRY, YOU
07:39:18PM KNOW, WHY ARE WE EVEN HERE.
07:39:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, VIERA, HENDERSON
07:39:23PM AND MIRANDA.
07:39:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GLAD HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS IF NOT MILLIONS
07:39:41PM OF MONEY.
07:39:43PM THEY DON'T NEED THE SMALL POTATOES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:39:44PM AGAIN, I WOULD PROBABLY BE WHERE COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS,
07:39:49PM EXCEPT, THOUGH, AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK JUST SAID, BRT IS A
07:39:55PM PROPOSAL WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A LOT.
07:39:57PM MY EMPHASIS HAS BEEN EXPANDING THE STREET CAR FOR URBAN
07:40:02PM TRANSIT AND CAR-FREE ENVIRONMENT WITHIN OUR URBAN AREA.
07:40:06PM BUT AS SOMEONE SAID, MAYBE IT WAS COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:40:09PM YOU GOT TO THE DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AT ONCE.
07:40:11PM YOU ARE RUNNING THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
07:40:13PM YOU CAN'T JUST FOCUS ON ONE THING.
07:40:14PM YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON LOTS OF THINGS.
07:40:16PM WE LOOK AT THE BRT AS A PROPOSAL.
07:40:19PM IT IS EXPENSIVE.
07:40:21PM THIS TEST PILOT PROGRAM.
07:40:22PM AGAIN, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THIS AS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION
07:40:26PM AND FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE PUBLIC ABLE TO SUSTAIN IN
07:40:30PM INDEFINITELY, IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMP
07:40:34PM BUDGET, BUT WE CAN USE THIS AS A TEST PROGRAM TO SEE THAT,
07:40:37PM ONE, WE CAN DRIVE THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS UP TO REEF THE
07:40:45PM THRESHOLD REQUIRED FOR THE BRT IT WILL EITHER WORK OR IT
07:40:52PM WON'T.
07:40:52PM WE WILL HAVE AN ANSWER TO KNOW IF PEOPLE HAVE A SERVICE AND
07:40:58PM WILL HAVE AN ANSWER.
07:40:59PM THAT IS THE THING.
07:40:59PM THIS ISN'T A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
07:41:01PM THIS ISN'T A SELF-PERPETUATING PROGRAM OF GOVERNMENT GROWTH,
07:41:07PM THERE IS A TEST OF A -- OF A LOW -- A LOW-COST TEST TO TEST
07:41:12PM A MUCH MORE AGAIN SIEVE -- BEFORE WE INVEST FURTHER FOR THAT
07:41:17PM MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE PROGRAM.
07:41:18PM WE INVEST THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY THIS YEAR, AND WE KNOW
07:41:21PM WHETHER WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS -- AT THIS MUCH GREATER
07:41:25PM INVESTMENT OF NEARLY $100 MILLION OF A BRT TO GET FROM
07:41:29PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA TO USF.
07:41:32PM AGAIN, DON'T LOOK AT IT AS A SELF-PERPETUATING GOVERNMENT
07:41:36PM THING, BUT LOOK AT THIS AS A SMART BUSINESS DECISION THAT
07:41:39PM YOU TEST THE CONCEPT AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY
07:41:42PM THAT YOU CAN BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH A LARGER
07:41:45PM INVESTMENT.
07:41:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS VIERA, HENDERSON AND MIRANDA.
07:41:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:41:49PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID SOME WORDS ABOUT OUR HART BOARD.
07:41:52PM AND I WANTED TO STAND UP FOR OUR HARD-WORKING HART BOARD.
07:41:57PM TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES RIGHT NOW
07:42:01PM THAT SOMEHOW THE FAULT LIES WITH THE HART BOARD WHEN WE HAVE
07:42:06PM A COUNTY COMMISSION THAT WOULD RATHER DO A WHOLE LOT OF
07:42:09PM THINGS OTHER THAN RAISE TAXES FOR HART RIGHT NOW SO OF WHY
07:42:15PM ENGAGE IN POLITICAL FLATTERY AND GAMESMANSHIP EVEN IF WE HAD
07:42:23PM MONEY ON THE HART BOARD, PUSH OVER TAXES AND SEND IT TO THE
07:42:30PM COUNTY COMMISSION WHERE WE KNOW IT WILL DIE.
07:42:31PM ALL I WANT TO DO IS HELP OUT THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN
07:42:35PM AND THE FAMILIES WHO TAKE THE HART BUS EVERY SING FROM DAY.
07:42:38PM AND I TELL YOU -- I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON MENTIONED
07:42:42PM THE STREETCAR.
07:42:43PM WHERE WE HAVE FUNDING THROUGH THE STREETCAR THROUGH
07:42:45PM DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS.
07:42:46PM SOME OF IT IS TEMPORARY, ETC.
07:42:48PM I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOU MENTIONED THE IDEA -- BY
07:42:50PM THE WAY 100% FOR THE STREETCAR FUNDING IT, ETC.
07:42:54PM THE FOLKS WHO RIDE ON THE STREET CAR.
07:42:56PM I DON'T HAVE THE STATS TO BACK IT UP, BUT I BET YOU A
07:43:00PM MILLION BUCKS.
07:43:02PM THE SURVEY OF THE PEOPLE ON STREETCAR AND PEOPLE ROUTE 1 IN
07:43:06PM HART, A BIG DIFFERENCE IN INCOME.
07:43:08PM HUGE DIFFERENCE OF INCOME.
07:43:10PM PEOPLE WHO RIDE THE STREETCAR EARN MORE.
07:43:13PM I AM DISTURBED BY A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY APPLIED TO
07:43:18PM TEMPORARY FUNDING MEASURES FOR HART AND THE HARD-WORKIN
07:43:22PM FAMILIES WHO RIDE HART AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE
07:43:26PM STREETCAR, RIGHT?
07:43:27PM THAT IS THE ISSUE BEFORE US TODAY.
07:43:28PM WHY AREN'T WE GOING TO GIVE THE HARD-WORKING FOLKS THAT TAKE
07:43:32PM HART AND HARD-WORKING WORKERS TO TAKE HART EVERY DAY THE
07:43:36PM SAME COURTESY AS THOSE WHO RIDE THE STREETCAR.
07:43:39PM I SUPPORT BOTH OF THEM.
07:43:40PM THEY BOTH DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
07:43:41PM HART'S BIG ISSUE IS FUNDING.
07:43:44PM IT IS MONDAY.
07:43:45PM THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE.
07:43:46PM WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ON THE HART BOARD IN TERMS OF HOW TO
07:43:50PM GET THERE.
07:43:51PM SOME FOLKS SAY LOOK AT GRANTS.
07:43:53PM OTHERS -- AGAIN, I PUT MY POLITICAL CAPITAL OUT THERE TIME
07:43:58PM AND TIME AGAIN FOR HIGHER TAXES FOR MASS TRANSIT.
07:44:01PM A STUDY A PROPOSAL BY STATE SENATOR DANNY BURGESS AND
07:44:05PM LAWRENCE McCLURE.
07:44:07PM WE WORKED WITH THEM.
07:44:08PM I WENT TO TALLAHASSEE WITH OUR WONDERFUL CEO SCOTT
07:44:12PM DRAINFIELD.
07:44:13PM ONE OF THE GREATEST GUYS ON EARTH.
07:44:15PM I THINK HE WALKS ON WATER.
07:44:17PM THAT WE TALK TO OUR FRIEND IN TALLAHASSEE OF THINGS TO
07:44:19PM IMPROVE HART.
07:44:20PM A STUDY WAS DONE BY -- THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE,
07:44:25PM THROUGH FDOT.
07:44:26PM GUESS WHAT THEY FOUND THE NUMBER ONE CHALLENGE OF HART IS,
07:44:31PM MONEY AND REVENUE.
07:44:32PM MY -- I JUST WANT TO HELP HART.
07:44:36PM I DON'T CARE OF THE POLITICS OF IT.
07:44:38PM IF WE COULD RAISING THE MILLAGE RATE.
07:44:41PM I DON'T THINK CARE IF WE DO IT BY APPROPRIATING MONEY FROM
07:44:45PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:44:46PM OR DOING LEMONADE OR 12 HAIL MEARS AND 12 OUR FATHERS.
07:44:53PM I WANT TO GET IT DONE.
07:44:55PM BEING ON THE HART BOARD WITH HARD-WORKING FOLKS, I SEE THE
07:44:59PM PEOPLE AND MOVE AHEAD.
07:45:02PM THEY RECEIVE THE SAME KIND OF GENEROSITY THAT THEY GIVE THE
07:45:06PM STREETCAR, THANK YOU.
07:45:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND THEN MIRANDA.
07:45:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
07:45:12PM SINCE I CAN'T TALK TO HART WITH SUNSHINE.
07:45:14PM LET ME ASK A QUESTION, IS SUBSIDY PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR
07:45:18PM PEOPLE WHO NEED TO RIDE HART.
07:45:20PM AND THEY RECEIVE A SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT.
07:45:22PM DOESN'T THAT ALREADY EXIST?
07:45:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL HAVE TO ASK MR. WILLITS THAT.
07:45:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A SUBSIDY FLOG PLACE.
07:45:31PM ARE THERE PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY RIDE IT FOR FREE?
07:45:36PM AND ANOTHER THING WHILE HE IS LOOKING THAT UP, I GUESS --
07:45:40PM >> I AM READY.
07:45:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
07:45:41PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: JUSTIN WILLITS, HART, DIRECTOR OF
07:45:45PM PLANNING.
07:45:45PM DISCOUNT FARES ARE AVAILABLE MOSTLY TO SENIORS, MEDICARE,
07:45:49PM THE YOUNG, AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
07:45:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: RIGHT.
07:45:52PM SO IF THEY ARE RIDING THAT ROUTE, THEY CAN -- THEY CAN APPLY
07:45:56PM FOR THAT OR RECEIVE THAT?
07:45:58PM AS YOU KNOW?
07:46:00PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: ACROSS THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
07:46:02PM SOME DISCOUNTS AVAILABLE.
07:46:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT DAY AVAILABLE SINCE
07:46:08PM YOU HAVE IT FOR ROUTE 1.
07:46:09PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS: BREAKDOWN OF EXISTING RIDERS ON ROUTE 1 OF
07:46:14PM THOW THEY PAY FOR THEIR FARE.
07:46:15PM THAT THAT WAS NOT ASKED AND I CAN BRING THAT BACK.
07:46:19PM PEOPLE IN THE CORRIDOR AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND DISABILITIES
07:46:23PM AND INCOME LEVELS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
07:46:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE CITY -- THE CITY IS BEING ASKED TO
07:46:28PM TAKE THE HIT.
07:46:28PM WE HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT MUCH MONEY.
07:46:29PM YOU KNOW THE COUNTY HAS ALL THE MONEY.
07:46:31PM THE HART BOARD IS JUST AS CONSERVATIVE AS THE COUNTY
07:46:34PM COMMISSION.
07:46:35PM THEY KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE THE PROBLEM SOLVERS OF
07:46:38PM THIS ISSUE.
07:46:39PM AND THAT IS JUST NOT FAIR.
07:46:40PM THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
07:46:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:46:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE CAN MAKE THIS A TV SHOW, AND IT WOULD
07:46:53PM BE A SELLER FOREVER.
07:46:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE BEST SHOW IN TAMPA.
07:46:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MEAN, PRODUCING IT -- MAKE A MOVIE OUT
07:47:00PM OF IT.
07:47:01PM AND GET RICH.
07:47:02PM ONE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT SO YOU CAN'T GO TO THE
07:47:05PM OTHER ONE TO ASK FOR IT.
07:47:06PM YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT YOURSELF FOR WHATEVER REASON.
07:47:09PM SO IT IS COMING TO US.
07:47:10PM SO BUT IT -- AND MY PROBLEM IS, I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU.
07:47:14PM HOW DO WE SOLVE THE PROBLEMS?
07:47:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SENDING IT BACK TO HART AND TELLING THEM
07:47:20PM TO FIGURE IT OUT.
07:47:22PM CALL ME OUT OF ORDER.
07:47:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ASKED.
07:47:26PM I WILL TAKE THE HEAT.
07:47:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS FINE.
07:47:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK THE HART BOARD SHOULD TAKE I
07:47:31PM FIRST.
07:47:31PM I AM NOT TRYING TO DELAY IT.
07:47:33PM PRESENT IT TO THEM AND SEE HOW THEY WANT IT DONE.
07:47:36PM I AM NOT ON THE HART BOARD.
07:47:38PM I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT TRANSIT.
07:47:40PM I WILL BE HONEST YOU WITH.
07:47:41PM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE DOES EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN
07:47:45PM THOSE AREAS.
07:47:46PM INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US THAT THERE IS A NEED.
07:47:48PM DEFINITELY A NEED.
07:47:50PM HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE STUDY AND FIND OUT, MANY WAYS.
07:47:53PM BUT WHEN YOU REALLY DO A NEED AND NECESSITY, WE KNOW THAT
07:47:57PM THE LOWEST INCOME, I GUESS, SUPPOSEDLY ONES THAT RIDE THE
07:48:03PM BUS ON THE DAILY BASIS AND THE YOUNG, I GUESS.
07:48:06PM THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS DON'T KNOW WHAT A
07:48:14PM BUS IS IF YOU PUT IT IN FRONT OF THEM BECAUSE ALL THEY WANT
07:48:18PM IS A CAR WHEN THEY TURN 16.
07:48:19PM THAT IS WHAT SOCIETY HAS DONE.
07:48:20PM PARENTS HAVE GIVEN THEM A CAR.
07:48:22PM THAT IS ANOTHER PROBLEM YOU GOT TO OVERLOOK.
07:48:25PM NOT ONE LITTLE HURDLE HERE.
07:48:28PM AT THAT WHOLE BUNCH OF HURDLES TO CHANGE SOCIETY BACK TO
07:48:32PM WHERE IT CAME FROM ORIGINALLY.
07:48:33PM HOW IT IS GOING TO GET THERE.
07:48:35PM MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT.
07:48:37PM YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE STUDY IN ONE AREA WHEN DO YOU A POLLING
07:48:42PM OF ANYTHING.
07:48:42PM DO YOU DIFFERENT AREAS AND DIFFERENT AGES, DIFFERENT INCOME
07:48:46PM LEVELS.
07:48:47PM ALL OF IT IS DONE.
07:48:48PM NO MATTER WHAT BUSINESS YOU ARE IN.
07:48:49PM WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS IN THE AEROSPACE
07:48:53PM BUSINESS OR TRYING SOMETHING ELSE.
07:48:55PM YOU TRY EVERY LITTLE THING.
07:48:57PM WE ARE ONLY GOING TO ONE.
07:48:59PM NOT TWO.
07:49:00PM AND I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY THIS TO ESCAPE THE PROBLEM.
07:49:05PM I WILL VOTE FOR IT TRITE NOW IF YOU WILL DO TWO STUDIES AND
07:49:10PM DIFFERENT AREAS.
07:49:11PM BUT THEY ARE ONLY DOING ONE.
07:49:12PM HOW DO I KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER ONE?
07:49:14PM HOW DOES THE PUBLIC KNOW?
07:49:18PM NEVER ASK.
07:49:19PM I AM NOT HERE I LOVE ALL THE COLLEAGUES.
07:49:24PM I LOVE ALL THE QUESTIONS THEY ASKED.
07:49:25PM I LOVE EVERYTHING.
07:49:26PM I THINK THEY HAVE DONE IT ALL WELL, BUT AT THE END, HOW DO
07:49:29PM WE SOLVE THE PROBLEMS?
07:49:31PM GO BEFORE THE HART BOARD FIRST AND TELL THE OTHER GOVERNMENT
07:49:35PM KNOW.
07:49:35PM LIKE I SAID, THE PROBLEM STARTED WHEN IT STARTED.
07:49:40PM WHEN IT STARTED BACK IN THE '80s.
07:49:42PM NOT TODAY.
07:49:43PM WHEN THEY SAID, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT.
07:49:45PM NOW YOU WILL HAVE SOMEBODY TAKE THEM ALL THE WAY TO WIMAUMA
07:49:50PM AND RUSKIN AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
07:49:51PM YOU NEED CONCENTRATION TO HAVE TRANSIT WORK.
07:49:54PM AND IT STARTED BACK IN THE '80s WHEN THIS STARTED AND YOU
07:49:57PM HAD THE RIDERSHIP.
07:49:58PM SPENDING THE MONEY ON NOTHING.
07:50:00PM IT WASN'T GOING TO WORK THE WAY IT WAS.
07:50:02PM NOW YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF WORKING.
07:50:04PM AND WE JUST SOLVE IT BECAUSE OF SO MANY INTERESTS.
07:50:08PM SO I WOULD VOTE FOR IT RIGHT NOW IF THERE WAS TWO STUDIES
07:50:12PM DONE WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.
07:50:14PM HALF OF THE $175 HERE AND HALF OF THE $11.5 SOMEWHERE ELSE
07:50:21PM TO GET AN UNDER STANDING WHAT IT IS.
07:50:23PM WE JUST CAN'T SAY ONE AND THAT'S IT.
07:50:25PM I NEVER -- I NEVER MARRIED MY FIRST GIRLFRIEND.
07:50:29PM MAYBE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MARRY ME EITHER.
07:50:31PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:50:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION TO CLOSE.
07:50:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN HURTAK
07:50:38PM AND WE TAKE A VOTE.
07:50:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE ALL HAD TWO ROUNDS.
07:50:47PM I WANT TO FIRST THANK MR. WILLITS.
07:50:51PM I KNOW YOU -- YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS AND
07:50:55PM RESEARCHING IT.
07:50:56PM AND ANSWERING A QUESTION YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU WOULD GET THESE
07:51:00PM OTHER QUESTIONS.
07:51:01PM >> MORE TIME TONIGHT FOR PREPARING.
07:51:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
07:51:07PM I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR TITLE EXACTLY, BUT YOU ARE THE
07:51:10PM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
07:51:11PM SO YOU ARE NOT THE CEO.
07:51:14PM AND WE -- WE SHOULDN'T EXPECT TO YOU ANSWER EVERY QUESTION
07:51:19PM OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
07:51:20PM THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO DO THAT TONIGHT.
07:51:22PM AND THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING THE ORGANIZATION.
07:51:25PM SECOND, THE POINT HAS BEEN MADE THAT THE HARD-WORKING MEN
07:51:30PM AND WOMEN OF OUR CITY DESERVE A SOLUTION.
07:51:32PM AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.
07:51:33PM WHAT WE NEED IS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION, A SYSTEMIC SOLUTION.
07:51:37PM WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN A YEAR FROM NOW, THE CITY OF TAMPA
07:51:40PM DOES NOT HAVE THE $1.5 MILLION.
07:51:48PM HART CAN'T FUND IT.
07:51:49PM EVERYBODY IS SAYING THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO FUND IT.
07:51:51PM THE STATE IS NOT GOING TO FUND IT.
07:51:53PM WHO GOING TO FUND IT?
07:51:56PM NOBODY WILL FUND IT.
07:51:57PM WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION AND FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE
07:52:00PM ADVOCATING FOR THIS, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE FOLKS WHO ARE
07:52:03PM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THEY HAVE 480 MILLION PLUS IN CAPACITY
07:52:09PM TO GO OUT AND CHARGE IN THEIR AD VALOREM FEES AND NOBODY
07:52:16PM MADE A MOTION.
07:52:16PM WE NEED YOUR HELP TO DO THAT.
07:52:17PM THE CITY -- JUST BECAUSE THE CITY IS ACCESSIBLE AND THE CITY
07:52:21PM COUNCIL IS ACCESSIBLE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN SOLVES EVERY
07:52:24PM ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
07:52:25PM THIS ISSUE WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE CITY 40 YEARS AGO WITH THE
07:52:28PM IDEA THAT IT INDEPENDENTLY HANDLED AND ALL WE CAN DO IS PUT
07:52:33PM A BAND-AID ON IT.
07:52:35PM NOT FIX THE PROBLEM AND ALL THE ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY
07:52:38PM ALTHOUGH WE ARE PHILOSOPHICALLY IN FAVOR OF THEM.
07:52:41PM WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A SYSTEMIC AREA.
07:52:44PM WE CAN'T GIVE PEOPLE A FREE BUS AND EXPECT TO PAY AT THAT.
07:52:48PM THIS HELPS WITH ONE ROUTE AND NOT ALL THE REST OF THEM.
07:52:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:52:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
07:52:55PM I AM JUST GOING TO SAY IT HAS BEEN INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO
07:52:58PM THE EXCUSES.
07:52:58PM I HAVE TO SAY THIS IS WHY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE GOLF GOVERNMENT.
07:53:02PM WE ARE JUST PICKING AND PICKING AND PICKING IF WE CAN'T BE
07:53:07PM NIMBLE.
07:53:15PM WE CAN NOT MAKE PERFECT ENEMY OF GOOD.
07:53:17PM WE NEED FOR THE PUBLIC TO TRY.
07:53:20PM I AM CALLING THE QUESTION.
07:53:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:53:23PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:53:24PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:53:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:53:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
07:53:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
07:53:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:53:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
07:53:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
07:53:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:53:36PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH --
07:53:41PM [INAUDIBLE]
07:53:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILWOMAN
07:53:44PM HENDERSON, YOU CAN BEGIN THE DISCUSSION ON THE SOCIAL
07:53:46PM ACTIONS.
07:53:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH I HAVE THE MICROPHONE
07:53:59PM ON.
07:53:59PM I HAVE A GREAT APPRECIATION FOR SOCIAL ACTION.
07:54:01PM WHEN I CAME TO CITY COUNCIL, THERE WERE BASICALLY THREE
07:54:08PM BLACK ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVED SOME FUNDING, THE URBAN
07:54:11PM LEAGUE, THE NAACP, AND A LITTLE BITTY MONEY WENT TO THE
07:54:17PM BLACK HERITAGE FESTIVAL WE HAVE EVERY YEAR THAT WILL BE I
07:54:19PM ITS 25th YEAR IN 2025.
07:54:21PM WE TAKE CARE OF DOGS.
07:54:22PM WE TAKE CARE OF FILMING.
07:54:24PM WE TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF.
07:54:27PM SO THE QUESTION CAME TO ME -- OR I PRESENTED THIS QUESTION.
07:54:31PM HOW DO YOU GET ON THIS LIST?
07:54:33PM AS AN EDUCATORS, I KNOW A BUNCH OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT REALLY
07:54:37PM SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITIES.
07:54:38PM AND THEY ARE DOING AMAZING THINGS.
07:54:41PM BUT THEY ARE NOT ON THE LIST.
07:54:42PM HOW DO YOU GET ON THE LIST?
07:54:44PM NO ONE CAN REALLY ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
07:54:46PM ONE THING I DO KNOW IF YOU MAKE THE LIST, YOU STAY ON THE
07:54:49PM LIST.
07:54:49PM YOU STAY ON IT ON IT AND YOU KEEP GETTING MONEY.
07:54:52PM YOU KEEP GETTING MONEY.
07:54:54PM THEY ALREADY TOLD YOU BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM STAFF.
07:54:57PM THEY DON'T HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY.
07:54:59PM DON'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
07:55:00PM TO GET 200,000 EVERY YEAR WHAT IT SAYS TO ME, YOU KNOW YOU
07:55:04PM ARE GOING TO GET IT.
07:55:05PM YOU ARE EXPECTING IT.
07:55:06PM AND YOU ARE NOT NECESSARILY SHOWING WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH
07:55:09PM THESE FUNDS.
07:55:10PM AND ANOTHER THING IS, YOU ARE SO SPOILED BECAUSE YOU ARE
07:55:14PM GETTING IT THAT MAYBE YOU ARE NOT GOING OUT AND SOLICITING
07:55:17PM FUNDS FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
07:55:18PM YOU ARE JUST EXPECTING THE CITY TO COME BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR
07:55:21PM AFTER YEAR.
07:55:22PM ONE PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION HAD TO BEG FOR THEIR MONEY.
07:55:25PM AND HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
07:55:28PM A LACK OF EQUITY.
07:55:29PM ACTUALLY DISRESPECTFUL.
07:55:31PM AND I ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH THE NAACP ON QUITE A FEW
07:55:35PM THINGS, BUT NOT ON THIS.
07:55:36PM THAT IS WHAT IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME.
07:55:39PM SO WHAT I DID WAS SOMETHING -- SAND I ACTUALLY HAD THIS
07:55:44PM CONVERSATION.
07:55:44PM I AM NOW SHARING MY VERY FIRST CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE
07:55:48PM MAY I DON'T REMEMBER.
07:55:48PM I SAID AS A TEACHER, IF YOU GAVE AN ORGANIZATION $5,000,
07:55:55PM THEY CAN DO A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF.
07:55:56PM IF YOU GIVE ME $5,000.
07:55:58PM I COULD TAKE TWO TRIPS ON COLLEGE TOURS TO TALLAHASSEE, BUY
07:56:04PM THE KIDS' T-SHIRTS AND SOME SNACKS.
07:56:07PM AND I AM BEING IMPACTFUL.
07:56:10PM SOMEBODY IN THAT GROUP WILL GO TO COLLEGE BECAUSE I PUT THEM
07:56:14PM ON A BUS FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.
07:56:16PM OUR ROLE UP HERE FOR THIS PARTICULAR MONEY IS TO SUPPORT
07:56:19PM SOMETHING.
07:56:19PM JUST TO SUPPORT YOU.
07:56:21PM TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HELP.
07:56:23PM YOU CAN NOT EXPECT US TO FUND YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THEN
07:56:27PM EVERYBODY ELSE GIVE YOU $1,000 OR $5,000.
07:56:31PM AND YOU GET $ 00,000 FROM US.
07:56:33PM THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EQUITY IN THIS LIST.
07:56:36PM AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION
07:56:40PM IS THAT A COUNCILMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THEY SUPPORT SOMETHING.
07:56:43PM SO THEY WILL ASK FOR THAT ORGANIZATION TO GET ON THE LIST.
07:56:46PM SO I TRIED IT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.
07:56:49PM THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD.
07:56:50PM SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I AM TALK ABOUT.
07:56:52PM I ACTUALLY ASKED THE -- I ASKED FOR FUNDING FOR THE THEY ARE
07:56:56PM ERIN'S HOUSE, $5,000, THE BOARD FOUNDATION.
07:57:01PM I ASKED FOR G, G-3, A YOUTH ORGANIZATION THAT IS VERY
07:57:07PM IMPACTFUL.
07:57:09PM MY FORMER STUDENTS AND I KNOW WHAT THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY
07:57:13PM IN EAST TAMPA.
07:57:13PM I ASKED FOR IT FOR RISE UP FOR PEACE THEY DEAL WITH GUN
07:57:20PM VIOLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I ASKED FOR $5,000.
07:57:22PM THE BIG ASK FOR ME AS A COUNCILMEMBER WAS $20,000 TO THE
07:57:28PM SKILLS CENTER THAT WE SUPPORTED WITH CRA FUNDS AND THEIR
07:57:31PM FIRST YEAR IN CELESTE ROBERTS AND HER TEAM RAISED SO MUCH
07:57:37PM MONEY FROM DIFFERENT PLACES TO SURPASS THEIR FUND RAISING
07:57:41PM GOAL OF 23 MILLION TO RAISED 28 MILLION TOLL BUILD THE
07:57:45PM SKILLS CENTER.
07:57:46PM WE GAVE THEM $500,000 A PINCH FROM THE CRA.
07:57:50PM SO THIS IS NOW -- HERE IT IS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EAST
07:57:53PM TAMPA, A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL FACILITY FOR YOUTH.
07:57:56PM AND THE SCARY PART IS -- IS THAT NOW WE GOT TO KEEP IT OPEN.
07:58:01PM WE HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE.
07:58:02PM WE GOT TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON.
07:58:03PM WE GOT TO HAVE PROGRAMMING.
07:58:05PM SO I ASKED FOR THAT ORGANIZATION TO RECEIVE 20,000.
07:58:09PM AND THEY ARE ON THE LIST.
07:58:10PM THE ASK.
07:58:12PM UP HIRE HAS BEEN TOO BIG FOR SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
07:58:16PM WE YOU LOOK, FEEDING TAMPA BAY GETS $200,000.
07:58:19PM THAT MAKES SENSE.
07:58:20PM BECAUSE THEY FEED PEOPLE.
07:58:22PM THEY FEED PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY AND SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS
07:58:27PM HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HOMELESS BEING FED WHICH IS
07:58:29PM RIDICULOUS AND A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY.
07:58:31PM FEEDING TAMPA BAY DO AMAZING WORK AND RECEIVE $200 MILLION.
07:58:35PM HERE IT IS THE FILMING -- TAMPA EDUCATIONAL CABLE.
07:58:39PM I AM NOT PICKING ON YOU, BUT YOU ARE GETTING A LOT OF MONEY.
07:58:42PM AND I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT YOU ARE BEING NECESSARILY
07:58:45PM IMPACTFUL.
07:58:46PM AND SO -- IT SHOWS ON YOUR WEB SITE THAT YOU RECEIVE SUPPORT
07:58:50PM FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
07:58:51PM THE COMMUNITY, JUST LIKE US, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE
07:58:58PM YOUR ASK.
07:58:58PM YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOUR FUNDRAISERS.
07:59:01PM YOU ARE GOING TO START DOING OTHER THINGS BESIDES EXPECTING
07:59:05PM THE CITY TO FUND YOUR ORGANIZATION AT A NUMBER WHERE YOU
07:59:08PM CAN'T JUSTIFY IT.
07:59:09PM AND THEY HAVEN'T -- THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO JUSTIFY IT,
07:59:13PM BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MADE IT A REQUIREMENT.
07:59:15PM EVEN THE FUNDING FOR THE NAACP.
07:59:18PM FRANK REDDICK WAS UP HERE MANY YEARS AGO -- COUNCILMAN GUDES
07:59:26PM CAME AFTER HIM.
07:59:27PM THAT UPDATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN INCREASE THEY HAD TO HAVE
07:59:30PM AN AGREEMENT, BUT NO ONE ELSE WAS TIED TO THAT.
07:59:32PM MR. BRODY COULDN'T SAY WHO ELSE HAD GOTTEN THOSE.
07:59:36PM BUT THE CHIEF WAS VERY SMART.
07:59:38PM DR. CHIEF SAID BEFORE WE GIVE EVERYBODY ELSE THE MONEY.
07:59:41PM ANYONE OVER $25,000 WILL HAVE TO -- WILL HAVE TO HAVE A
07:59:46PM COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
07:59:47PM THAT BENEFIT AGREEMENT AT ONE POINT -- YVETTE LEWIS
07:59:52PM APPROACHED ME, SHE SAID WE CAN'T EVEN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS
07:59:55PM THEY ARE ASKING OF US IN ORDER TO GET OUR MONEY.
07:59:57PM IT IS TOO STRINGENT.
07:59:59PM I FOUND THAT VERY INTERESTING.
08:00:01PM I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE FROM THESE
08:00:04PM ORGANIZATIONS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET THEIR FUNDING.
08:00:07PM THERE IS JUST NO BALANCE ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
08:00:09PM SINCE -- HOW MANY SECONDS DO YOU HAVE WHEN THE LIGHT RINGS.
08:00:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 30.
08:00:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE ACTUALLY IS SOME FUNDS LEFTOVER.
08:00:18PM AND FOR ME, WHAT IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME.
08:00:23PM I GET SO MANY PHONE CALLS WITH ORGANIZATIONS ASKING FOR A
08:00:27PM LITTLE BIT OF HELP.
08:00:29PM JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HELP.
08:00:30PM $1,000, $2,000, BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.
08:00:34PM LET ME WRAP UP BY SAYING THIS, THE LEFTOVER FUNDING THAT WE
08:00:39PM HAVE, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE DIVIDED UP, YOU KNOW, AMONG
08:00:43PM COUNCILMEMBERS AND WE DECIDE ON AN AMOUNT, $20,000 BECAUSE
08:00:47PM ALONG THE YEAR WHEN YOU GET THAT PHONE CALL, YOU ARE ABLE TO
08:00:49PM HELP SOMEONE.
08:00:50PM YOU ARE ABLE TO HELP SOMEONE.
08:00:52PM THE ADD-ON REQUEST FOR ME JUST AS THE PUBLIC.
08:00:56PM I DID ASK FOR THE RIVERWALK.
08:00:59PM THEY DO AMAZING THINGS.
08:01:00PM THE FUNDING AMOUNT WAS LITTLE LESS.
08:01:03PM MAYOR WAS MORE GENEROUS AND GAVE $30,000.
08:01:06PM I SAID 25,000.
08:01:08PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVING OUT BIG NUMBERS.
08:01:10PM ANYTHING OVER $100,000.
08:01:11PM WE NEED TO STOP DOING THAT SO PEOPLE WILL KNOW THERE IS
08:01:15PM EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHAT IT IS THAT
08:01:17PM YOU DO AND COME IN A RESOLUTION JUST LIKE DID FOR THE NAACP.
08:01:22PM NEEDS TO CROSS OUR DESK AT $25,000 FOR EACH ONE SEPARATELY
08:01:27PM SO WE CAN NAY YAY OR NAY, AND SHOULD NOT LAST FOREVER.
08:01:33PM IT SHOULD NOT LAST FOREVER, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ON
08:01:37PM THIS LIST HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER.
08:01:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN
08:01:42PM HENDERSON.
08:01:42PM YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING INTERESTING.
08:01:43PM THERE IS $124,000 LEFT OVER IN UNALLOCATED FUND.
08:01:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
08:01:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE WERE TO DIVIDE THAT BETWEEN SEVEN
08:01:52PM COUNCILMEMBERS, THAT WILL GIVE US $17,714 TO EACH
08:01:56PM COUNCILMEMBER.
08:01:56PM I KNOW -- NO, NO.
08:01:59PM THAT WAS BEFORE THE UPDATED LIST.
08:02:00PM SO IT IS $124,000.
08:02:02PM JUST -- I DID THE NUMBERS.
08:02:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT WOULD BE A GREAT START BECAUSE -- ONE
08:02:08PM OF THE THINGS THAT JUST HAPPENED, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, IS
08:02:12PM THAT -- AN ORGANIZATION WANTS TO TALK TO ME.
08:02:14PM I WILL SAY TO DARLENE.
08:02:16PM WHAT DO THEY WANT, DARLENE?
08:02:18PM THEY SAY THEY HAVE TO TALK TO YOU.
08:02:20PM I SAY, DARLENE, YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY.
08:02:23PM I DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE.
08:02:25PM IT CAN BE REALLY LEGIT, BUT EVEN I -- I HAVE LITERALLY
08:02:30PM WRITTEN CHECKS JUST TO SUPPORT AN ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THERE
08:02:35PM IS NO FUNDING FOR ME TO GIVE TO THEM.
08:02:36PM AND I AM A GIVER, BUT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COME TO THAT.
08:02:40PM THAT THE COUNCILMEMBERS ARE WRITING THE CHECKS JUST TO
08:02:43PM SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE 501-C-3s AND THEY NEED A
08:02:49PM LITTLE BIT TO FEED THE KIDS.
08:02:51PM TO -- WE GAVE THE MONEY TO -- LITERALLY WENT ON THE TOUR.
08:02:56PM THE -- SULPHUR SPRINGS.
08:03:00PM STEPPINGSTONES.
08:03:02PM THEY HAVE A FOOD PANTRY.
08:03:03PM THEY HAVE -- THEY FEED THOSE KIDS AS SOON AS THEY GET THERE,
08:03:07PM BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT HAVE FOOD.
08:03:09PM THAT MAY BE THE LAST THING THAT THEY EAT.
08:03:12PM SO THERE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IF WE HAD OUR -- IF
08:03:15PM WE JUST HAD -- WHERE WE CAN ASK THE BUDGET OFFICE.
08:03:19PM MAYBE THERE IS A FORM CREATED.
08:03:20PM AND -- AND ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT HAVE A DISTRICT.
08:03:24PM I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE TIED TO -- YOU KNOW, YOUR CITYWIDE.
08:03:28PM AND SO -- BUT IF WE JUST HAD IT -- AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MONEY,
08:03:35PM WHETHER IT IS $15,000, $10,000, TO HELP ALONG THE WHERE THEY
08:03:40PM DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE ON A FUNDING LIST AT THE
08:03:43PM BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I THINK THAT IS AN IDEAL PILOT
08:03:46PM PROGRAM WE CAN TRY.
08:03:47PM THANK YOU FOR THE EXTRA TIME.
08:03:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
08:03:49PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:03:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT HERE TO DEBATE ANYONE ON THIS
08:03:54PM ISSUE, BUT I AM NOT GOING THAT ROUTE PERSONALLY.
08:03:57PM I DON'T THINK THAT I -- I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY OVER LOOKING
08:04:01PM AT ME ASKING FOR MONEY FOR SOMEBODY.
08:04:03PM SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT.
08:04:04PM THEN I AM GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
08:04:06PM I AM NOT SAYING IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IF THERE IS A
08:04:10PM POSSIBILITY, IT CAN HAPPEN, IT WILL HAPPEN.
08:04:12PM AND THAT IS HOW LIFE IS.
08:04:14PM NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD OR ANYTHING LIKE
08:04:18PM THAT.
08:04:18PM ONCE YOU TOUCH PUBLIC MONEY, AND ELECTED OFFICIALS -- AND
08:04:22PM YOU PASS IT ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU ARE GOING TO BE JUST AS
08:04:27PM RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THAT PERSON DID EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE
08:04:30PM WHAT THAT PERSON DID.
08:04:31PM ME, I AM NOT VOTING FOR THAT.
08:04:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EVEN IF IT IS LIKE --
08:04:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT VOTING FOR IT.
08:04:38PM EVEN IF IT IS A $1, I AM NOT VOTING FOR THAT.
08:04:42PM BECAUSE CREATING A BURDEN I DON'T NEED OR ANYBODY ELSE
08:04:45PM NEEDS.
08:04:45PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
08:04:46PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
08:04:47PM BUT -- BUT I AM JUST SAYING FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT
08:04:53PM GOVERNMENT, IT IS NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE THAT YOU ARE GOING
08:04:58PM TO GET INVOLVED.
08:05:00PM EVEN IF YOU WERE NOT GUILTY, YOU ARE GO TO GET INVOLVED AND
08:05:03PM COST YOU A LOT OF MONEY TO STAY YOU ARE NOT GUILTY AND PROVE
08:05:06PM IT.
08:05:06PM THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
08:05:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, VIERA AND CARLSON.
08:05:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY MONEY ON THIS
08:05:14PM LIST, BY THE WAY.
08:05:15PM SO -- BUT I -- I DO -- I DO LOOK AT A LOT -- THIS IS OTHER
08:05:21PM PEOPLE'S MONEY.
08:05:22PM THIS IS TAXPAYER MONIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
08:05:24PM THIS ISN'T OUR MONEY.
08:05:26PM AND SO WHEN WE -- WHEN WE DO A LITMUS TEST OF HOW I SPEND
08:05:31PM OTHER PEOPLE'S MONIES, THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF RETURN
08:05:35PM ON INVESTMENT THAT MEET THE STRATEGIC GOALS OF THE CITY AND
08:05:39PM HOW WE -- YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
08:05:41PM SO WHETHER IT IS GOING TO BE PROVIDING JOBS, ECONOMIC
08:05:47PM INCUBATOR OR THE MORE SESSION WELFARE PROGRAMS WHEN WE ARE
08:05:54PM TAKING CARE OF KIDS AND THE THINGS WE NEED TO BE DOING AS A
08:05:57PM JUST SATURDAY, THOSE ARE -- THOSE ARE THE LITMUS TEST.
08:06:01PM THIS IS NOT A MONEY GIVEAWAY, THIS SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHING
08:06:05PM STRATEGIC GOALS OF THE CITY AS WE ARE SPENDING OTHER
08:06:09PM PEOPLE'S MONEY.
08:06:09PM I AM VERY MUCH HOPING AS THE CITY NEGOTIATES THESE
08:06:14PM AGREEMENTS, THAT IS INCLUDED IN ALL OF THIS SO THAT WE CAN
08:06:17PM ACTUALLY WEIGH THAT THIS ORGANIZATION LIKE -- SO WHEN WE
08:06:22PM TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATION X, WHAT ARE THEY
08:06:25PM RETURNING TO THIS COMMUNITY?
08:06:26PM WHAT ARE THEY RETURNING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA?
08:06:28PM WHAT ARE THEY RETURNING TO EITHER THE -- EITHER THE ECONOMIC
08:06:32PM SUCCESS, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING CAREERS.
08:06:34PM DEVELOPING SKILLS.
08:06:36PM OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT IS, OR DEVELOPING JOBS A
08:06:41PM CREATING THE -- OR TOURISM.
08:06:44PM TOURISM AND OTHER CATALYST THINGS WE CAN DO VERY
08:06:47PM STRATEGICALLY AS A CITY TO BRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
08:06:52PM GROWTH TO THE CITY WHICH PROVIDES JOBS.
08:06:54PM THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR.
08:06:57PM I AM A CITYWIDE GUY.
08:06:59PM I DON'T WANT ANY MONEY EITHER.
08:07:01PM IF YOU AMONG THE SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS IF YOU FEEL -- I
08:07:05PM AGREE WITH CHARLIE -- WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:07:07PM I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT MONEY STAY SITTING DORMANT.
08:07:11PM WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH -- YOU BROUGHT UP STEPPINGSTONE THAT
08:07:14PM CAME UP IN THE YEAR.
08:07:15PM WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
08:07:17PM WE NEEDED TO FIND MONEY FOR THAT MIDYEAR.
08:07:19PM SOME IF WE LEAVE THAT SITTING -- IF WE LEAVE UNFUNDED
08:07:24PM SITTING THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, I BEGAN RARITY YOU SOME
08:07:29PM NEED BEFORE US IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO BE
08:07:31PM LOOKING FOR MONEY.
08:07:32PM AND SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT CUTTING SOMEWHERE
08:07:36PM ELSE.
08:07:36PM THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
08:07:37PM BUT FOR MYSELF AS A -- AS A CITYWIDE PERSON, I DON'T
08:07:41PM NECESSARILY FEEL LIKE I NEED A KITTY OF MONEY.
08:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND CARLSON.
08:07:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
08:07:48PM YOU KNOW I LOOKED AT THE LIST.
08:07:50PM AND I AM PERSONALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ITEMS ON THE LIST.
08:07:53PM I AM FINE WITH THE LIST.
08:07:55PM I HAVE MADE REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
08:07:57PM AND THIS YEAR.
08:07:58PM AND THEY ARE REQUESTS THAT I NOT JUST -- NOT JUST DON'T RUN
08:08:03PM AWAY FROM, BUT I WILL FULLY EMBRACE.
08:08:06PM LAST YEAR I BEGAN FUNDING WITH COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S
08:08:10PM SUPPORT THE PENGUIN PROJECT WHICH DOES WONDERFUL FIRST-CLASS
08:08:15PM THEATRE PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
08:08:17PM AND, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS THEM TEMPORARILY, GIVES THEM A REAL
08:08:25PM LEG-UP TO LONG-TERM INDEPENDENCE.
08:08:27PM I DON'T SEE THAT AS SOMETHING LONG TERM AND PERMANENT.
08:08:30PM ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
08:08:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, I AM SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED G 3
08:08:35PM RONNIE.
08:08:35PM I MEAN, THOSE FOLKS ARE JUST AMAZING.
08:08:37PM RISE UP FOR PEACE.
08:08:39PM LOVE THEM TO DEATH.
08:08:40PM REALLY GOOD PEOPLE.
08:08:41PM SO I THINK THAT IT IS GOOD TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
08:08:44PM TO REFLECT OUR VALUES.
08:08:46PM YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE DO ON COUNCIL REFLECT OUR
08:08:51PM VALUES.
08:08:52PM WHAT WE JUST DID FOR HART.
08:08:53PM I VOTED FOR IT.
08:08:54PM REFLECTS MY VALUES.
08:08:56PM I THINK A LOT OF THINGS THAT I REQUESTED REFLECT MY VALUES.
08:09:00PM I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BY THE WAY, OF FRIENDS OF THE
08:09:03PM RIVERWALK.
08:09:03PM THEY HAD -- MAYBE I CAN DO THIS OFF LINE, BUT THEY SENT AN
08:09:07PM E-MAIL WHERE THEY ASKED OF A WAIVER OF $50,000 OF FEES.
08:09:11PM I DON'T KNOW WHO HI TALK TO ABOUT IT.
08:09:16PM DO IT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
08:09:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, DO YOU KNOW.
08:09:23PM I SPOKE WITH IT EARLIER.
08:09:26PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
08:09:29PM AND WE CAN TALK DEEPER OFF-LINE.
08:09:33PM BUT WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR AS WE GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL
08:09:36PM PERMITTING PROCESS, WHAT WE TONED REFER TO HARD COSTS AND
08:09:40PM SOFT COSTS.
08:09:41PM SOMETIMES SOFT COSTS WILL GET WAIVED TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE
08:09:44PM HARD COST LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE RESCUE, PERSONNEL THAT
08:09:47PM WILL COME OUT OF THE CITY'S BUDGET OR REALLOCATE RESOURCES.
08:09:50PM WE TEND NOT TO WAIVE THOSE THINGS.
08:09:52PM SO I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE NEXT IS.
08:09:54PM WE FEEL THERE IS OPPORTUNITY -- WE LOVE TO ACTIVATE THE
08:09:58PM RIVERWALK AND NOT THE ISSUE.
08:10:01PM THE ISSUE IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GROW INTO THIS BUDGET IN
08:10:04PM A SUSTAINABLE WAY AND SUPPORT ACTIVATION ON THE RIVERWALK.
08:10:08PM WE ARE COUNTY -- WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL FIND THE
08:10:16PM MONEY FOR THE FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK OF MARKING $35,000 TO
08:10:21PM START.
08:10:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SIR .WE CAN TALK BETWEEN FIRST AND
08:10:25PM SECOND READING AND.
08:10:26PM FOR MR. ROGERO, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU SIR.
08:10:30PM I ASKED THIS BEFORE.
08:10:31PM FOR THE VETERANS HELPING VETERANS AND MERCY PROJECT.
08:10:37PM DO I NEED TO MAKE A FORMAL MOTION TO HAVE THOSE INCLUDED,
08:10:41PM SIR?
08:10:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: FROM ANY PERSPECTIVE -- THANK YOU.
08:10:43PM DENNIS ROGERO, STEVE FINANCIAL OFFICER.
08:10:46PM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR COUNCIL TO
08:10:49PM MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
08:10:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: I ONLY ASK THOSE BECAUSE IT HAS A LITTLE ONE.
08:10:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
08:10:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR.
08:10:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HES TO MAKE A MOTION EVEN THOUGH IT IS
08:11:02PM INCLUDED WITH THE LITTLE ONE NEXT TO IT.
08:11:04PM IS IT ALREADY INCLUDED OR HE HAS TO MAKE THE FORMAL MOTION.
08:11:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
08:11:09PM THAT IS WHY IT IS FRAMED EXACTLY AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
08:11:12PM SAID AS POTENTIAL.
08:11:13PM THERE HAS BEEN MUCH DISCUSSION, OF COURSE, BUT NO CHANGES
08:11:16PM HAS BEEN VOTED ON FOR -- TO THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
08:11:21PM MOREOVER, I WOULD -- AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR.
08:11:26PM SHELBY, BUT WE DISCUSS THE MECHANISM TO GO ABOUT MAKING
08:11:29PM THESE CHANGES.
08:11:29PM IT WILL BE PREFERABLE AND EASIER FOR THOSE INVOLVED TO MAKE
08:11:33PM THESE CHANGES IN OCTOBER BY BRINGING A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION
08:11:37PM TO CITY COUNCIL.
08:11:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR --
08:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY MOTION, I WANT TO GO
08:11:44PM AROUND.
08:11:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
08:11:45PM A QUESTION JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY.
08:11:48PM THE LIST THAT WAS PRESENTED BY BUDGET ANALYST, BY
08:11:56PM HIS KAPESKY, THOSE ITEMS MARKED IN YELLOW ARE NEW TO THE
08:11:59PM LIST AND NOT IN THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET, I DID
08:12:02PM UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY?
08:12:04PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO.
08:12:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
08:12:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: EVERYTHING -- CAN I HAVE THE ELMO?
08:12:11PM AND -- AND FEEL FREE, MISS KAPESKY.
08:12:15PM THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS "PROPOSED CHANGE."
08:12:19PM THOSE ARE THE ONLY ITEM NOT IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
08:12:22PM EVERYTHING ELSE ON THIS LIST IS IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
08:12:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EVEN THE ITEMS LISTED IN YELLOW.
08:12:29PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THE ITEMS IN YELLOW WAS TO SHOW '24 VERSUS
08:12:34PM '25.
08:12:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: '24 VERSUS '25.
08:12:37PM THANK YOU.
08:12:37PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
08:12:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP --
08:12:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
08:12:42PM THIS LIST, THE $124,686.
08:12:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
08:12:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT INCLUSIVE OF THE CENTER COLUMN?
08:12:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS INCLUSIVE.
08:12:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS THE LEFTOVER.
08:12:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ADOPTED ALL THE ONES.
08:12:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:12:57PM 124 IS THE LEFTOVER CASH.
08:13:00PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:13:01PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:13:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: GOING BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S
08:13:05PM IDEAS.
08:13:06PM I APPRECIATE -- IT IS GOOD THAT WE HAVE NEW IDEAS AND FRESH
08:13:11PM IDEAS.
08:13:12PM AND I LOVE HEARING ALL THE NEW PERSPECTIVES ESPECIALLY IN
08:13:16PM REGARD TO IT THE RECURRING FUNDING.
08:13:18PM I AGREE TOTALLY WITH THAT.
08:13:20PM THE IDEA I THINK OF THE CITY FUNDING SHOULD BE KIND OF
08:13:25PM START-UP OR -- OR INNOVATION FUNDING TO GET PEOPLE GOING.
08:13:29PM BUT ULTIMATELY THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SUSTAIN
08:13:33PM NONPROFITS, ESPECIALLY ON A LARGE BASIS ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
08:13:36PM I -- I WOULD VOTE NO IF WE GOT A VOTE TO HAVE US GIVE AWAY
08:13:42PM MONEY.
08:13:42PM ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT MY FRIENDS WHO ARE IN THE -- IN
08:13:46PM THE GIVING INDUSTRY LIKE WORK FOR FOUNDATIONS, THAT 90
08:13:50PM SOMETHING PERCENT OF YOUR JOB IS SAYING NO.
08:13:54PM THE SAYING NO TO PEOPLE IS A LOT WORSE THAN SAYING YES.
08:13:58PM YOU MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE UNHAPPY.
08:14:02PM WHY DID YOU FUND THEM AND NOT US.
08:14:04PM OTHER THING IS, IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
08:14:07PM I HAVE FOLKS MAKE REQUESTS TO ME.
08:14:08PM AND I NEVER DIRECTLY PUT ANYTHING ON A LIST LIKE THIS.
08:14:11PM I ALWAYS SEND IT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF OR THE ADMINISTRATION
08:14:14PM BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR THE SAME
08:14:17PM REASON THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED.
08:14:19PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ORGANIZATION IS VETTED EVEN
08:14:23PM THOUGH I MIGHT LIKE THE ORGANIZATION AND SUPPORT IT.
08:14:26PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE VETTED.
08:14:28PM MANY ORGANIZATIONS ON HERE THAT I PERSONALLY SUPPORTED OR
08:14:31PM THROUGH MY FIRM I HAVE SUPPORTED.
08:14:32PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GO THROUGH SOME PROCESS.
08:14:35PM I THINK WHERE WE HAVE AN IMPACT, IF WE HAD A WORKSHOP.
08:14:39PM HOPEFULLY THE ADMINISTRATION WILL PUT A WORKSHOP ON THE LIST
08:14:42PM OR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON CAN PROPOSE IT.
08:14:44PM WHERE WE CAN GET SOME INPUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND FURTHER
08:14:48PM DEFINE IT, TO SHOW THE EQUITY TO HAVE SMALLER GRANTS THINGS
08:14:54PM LIKE THAT TO TAKE OUT SOME OF THE RECURRING ONES.
08:14:57PM OTHER THING IS WHEN NONPROFITS CONTACT ME DURING THIS TIME.
08:15:03PM I TELL THEM EVEN THOUGH I REALLY LIKE THEM.
08:15:05PM I TELL THEM YOU NEED TO START APPLYING NOW NOR NEXT YEAR,
08:15:08PM NOT THIS YEAR.
08:15:09PM TOO LATE FOR THIS YEAR.
08:15:10PM THE THING IS ALREADY BAKED IN.
08:15:12PM I WOULD SUGGEST ANY NEW IDEAS, THAT WE START -- TAKE THEM
08:15:18PM FLEW THROUGH THE PROCESS TO LOOK FOR NEXT YEARS.
08:15:21PM IF THEY ARE VETTED -- THE LIST OF MAKES.
08:15:23PM ADMINISTRATION AND LOOK AT THESE AND FINE.
08:15:25PM IF THEY HAVEN'T, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS.
08:15:29PM THE CATEGORIES OF POLICY INTERESTS EARLIER, ONE OF THEM WAS
08:15:32PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:15:33PM WITHOUT CALLING OUT ANY TIMES OF PEOPLE, ORGANIZATIONS
08:15:37PM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SINGLE THEM OUT.
08:15:39PM FOUR ON THIS LIST UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NOT UNDER
08:15:42PM CHARITABLE GIVING BECAUSE I THINK THEY SHOULD BE
08:15:44PM SUSTAINABLE.
08:15:44PM THERE -- IT IS NOT -- THESE ARE NOT START-ORGANIZATIONS AND
08:15:54PM IN SERVICES WE ARE BUYING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:15:56PM AND THAT IS A SEPARATE CATEGORY.
08:15:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CITY ASSETS?
08:16:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE WHAT?
08:16:04PM SINCE ALFRED IS HERE, I WILL POINT HIM OUT.
08:16:06PM BUT THE SISTER CITY PROGRAM.
08:16:09PM SISTER CITY IS A PROGRAM THAT IS -- THEY ARE REALLY --
08:16:13PM REALLY PROVIDING A SERVICE.
08:16:15PM THEY ARE PROVIDING A SERVICE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
08:16:17PM AND THEY ARE SEPARATE AND THEY RAISE THEIR OWN MONEY AND
08:16:20PM THEY PUT -- BUT THEY EXIST TO SUPPORT THE CITY.
08:16:23PM AND IT IS NOT LIKE THERE IS JUST SOLVING A SOCIAL NEED.
08:16:28PM THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING A SERVICE OF THE CITY AND I THINK
08:16:30PM THE SERVICE SHOULD PAY AND WHAT -- AND JUST LIKE YOU WOULD
08:16:34PM ANY OTHER SERVICE AND IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE RAISING MONEY
08:16:36PM TO MATCH US.
08:16:37PM SO IT IS A DIFFERENT -- TO ME, IT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT
08:16:40PM KIND OF TRANSACTION THEN JUST NONPROFIT GIVING.
08:16:43PM THIS IS NOT CHARITABLE GIVING.
08:16:45PM IT IS ACTUALLY A TRANSITION WHERE WE ARE ASKING TO PROVIDE A
08:16:48PM SERVICE FOR US.
08:16:50PM IF THERE IS ANY MONEY LEFT, $124,000 AT THE END, IF WE CAN
08:16:57PM FIX ONE ROAD.
08:16:59PM THAT WILL BE 20 PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE HAPPY.
08:17:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CLENDENIN AND THEN
08:17:04PM ME.
08:17:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
08:17:05PM TO ME, THIS IS A LARGER ISSUE OF HELPING SMALLER
08:17:12PM ORGANIZATIONS GET OFF THE GROUND AND THEN TRANSFERRING --
08:17:16PM TRANSFERRING TO SOMETHING ELSE.
08:17:18PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT IS -- I ASKED ABOUT --
08:17:22PM ACTUALLY IS IF THE CITY COULD APPLY FOR LARGER GRANTS AS A
08:17:28PM PASS-THROUGH AS SOME OF THESE SOCIAL ORGANIZATIONS.
08:17:31PM AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT A
08:17:33PM LOT OF THESE SMALL ORGANIZATIONS DON'T.
08:17:35PM AND THAT CAME TO LIGHT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO --
08:17:38PM HOW TO HELP TEENS LIKE THE STAY AND PLAY AND ALL OF THAT.
08:17:42PM A LOT OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE SOME CAPACITY, BUT NOT
08:17:47PM CAPACITY TO HAVE A $50,000 GRANT.
08:17:49PM THEY CAN HANDLE $10,000.
08:17:52PM UP DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN THEM WITH SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT
08:17:57PM READY FOR.
08:17:57PM WE WANT TO HELP THEM GROPE.
08:17:58PM A REAL BIG ISSUE THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY TO WORK
08:18:02PM TOWARD.
08:18:02PM GANGBUSTER ON GRANTS.
08:18:04PM A PHENOMENAL TEAM.
08:18:05PM AND START GOING AFTER SOME OF THESE TYPES OF GRANTS WE CAN
08:18:08PM DO PASS THROUGH, FOCUSED ON PARTICULAR ISSUES.
08:18:11PM AND SO THAT, TO ME, IS A REALLY BIG DEAL.
08:18:14PM AND THEN -- I KNOW WE START OF TALKED ABOUT IT.
08:18:19PM A METHOD TO GET ORGANIZATIONS TO MOVE OFF GRANTS.
08:18:23PM THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO GROUPS ON THIS LIST THAT I HAVE ASKED
08:18:26PM -- WHEN I -- I TALKED TO THEM.
08:18:28PM AND I ASKED THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS AN ENDOWMENT LOOK LIKE
08:18:33PM FOR YOU.
08:18:33PM THEY SAY WE ARE NOT REALLY LOOKING THE ENDOWMENT.
08:18:36PM I AM THINKING, WHY NOT?
08:18:38PM WHY AREN'T YOU TRYING FOR AN ENDOWMENT.
08:18:41PM IT IS DIFFICULT TO START.
08:18:42PM ONCE YOU HAVE AN ENDOWMENT, YOU DON'T NEED CITY ASSISTANCE
08:18:46PM ANYMORE AND YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT.
08:18:48PM FOR ME I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME ASSISTANCE IN ENDOWMENTS.
08:18:53PM BUT ALSO, TO GO -- TO GO BACK TO THE IDEA OF CREATING THE
08:18:57PM METHOD TO GET ORGANIZATIONS TO MOVE OFF GRANTS.
08:19:01PM IF WE DON'T HAVE A METHOD TO START PEOPLE DOWN THAT PATH, I
08:19:06PM WOULD LIKE TO -- TO CREATE ONE.
08:19:08PM AND IF WE DO HAVE ONE, IF WE CAN GET A PRESENTATION ABOUT
08:19:11PM WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE HAVE TO START.
08:19:14PM WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
08:19:15PM SEVERAL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS MAY NEED HELP IN THE LONG
08:19:18PM TERM, BUT A LOT OF THEM -- I MEAN THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION
08:19:21PM HERE THAT TAKES IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT IS GETTING LESS
08:19:24PM THAN $25,000 FROM US.
08:19:25PM WHY?
08:19:26PM WHY?
08:19:27PM WHY ARE WE DOING THAT?
08:19:28PM THEY DON'T -- I MEAN OUR MONEY IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET TO
08:19:32PM THEM BUT COULD BE A HUGE DIFFERENCE MAKE TO SOME OTHER
08:19:37PM ORGANIZATIONS.
08:19:37PM I TRIED TO TAKE THAT OFF LAST YEAR AND I GO THE A RESOUNDING
08:19:40PM NO.
08:19:40PM SO I AM KIND OF BEFUDDLED BY IT.
08:19:43PM ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
08:19:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:19:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I HAD TO GATHER MY THOUGHTS.
08:19:51PM I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT REQUESTS THAT THE
08:19:57PM ADMINISTRATION DIVIDE THIS LIST AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
08:20:02PM IT IS ADD SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUNDING.
08:20:09PM SEVERAL MORE, MORE THAN SOCIAL ARTS FUNDING.
08:20:13PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT SEPARATED BECAUSE IT IS A FUNDING
08:20:17PM THAT PRODUCE AS RETURN FOR INVESTMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:20:20PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE TAKEN OFF IN A SEPARATE CATEGORY.
08:20:24PM I WILL MOTION THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WORK THROUGH THIS
08:20:27PM LIST, IDENTIFY -- IDENTIFY THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE --
08:20:35PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NATURE AND CREATE A SUBSET CATEGORY FOR
08:20:39PM THEM.
08:20:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
08:20:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
08:20:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:20:44PM YOU KNOW I HAD A REQUEST AS I AM SURE ALL OF US HAVE TO
08:20:47PM INCREASE FUNDING FOR CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS.
08:20:50PM I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THEM, BUT AT LEAST ONE IS IN THAT
08:20:55PM CATEGORY.
08:20:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WILL BE MY NEXT DISCUSSION THAT I
08:20:59PM WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
08:21:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:21:04PM BY CLENDENIN AND VIERA.
08:21:08PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:21:09PM ANY OPPOSED.
08:21:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE THE
08:21:14PM ADMINISTRATION TO WORK WITH TAMPA BAY WAVE AND IDENTIFY
08:21:17PM THEIR FUNDING NEEDS.
08:21:18PM I DON'T THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO DO THIS FROM THE
08:21:21PM DAIS, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION IF THEY WILL WORK WITH TAMPA
08:21:24PM BAY WAVE TO IDENTIFY THEIR REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF
08:21:28PM RETURN OF INVESTMENT AND RETURN IT BACK BEFORE COUNCIL.
08:21:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
08:21:32PM MAY I HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
08:21:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
08:21:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO ASK OF PUTTING POTENTIALLY THE
08:21:41PM FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK ON THAT IF YOU ARE AMENABLE TO
08:21:44PM THAT.
08:21:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM AMENABLE FOR THAT.
08:21:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: POTENTIAL CHANGE FOR ALL OF THEM.
08:21:49PM NOT JUST THE FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK, IT IS CORNERSTONE --
08:21:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM TAKING OFF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
08:21:56PM PORTION.
08:21:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:21:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK.
08:22:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON AND HURTAK.
08:22:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: I TONIGHT HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF ME.
08:22:08PM IF I CAN READ THIS, ONE OF THEM SAY TAMPA CHAMBER, BUT IT IS
08:22:13PM REALLY THE PROTOCOL OFFICE.
08:22:15PM THAT IS -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IT IS TODAY.
08:22:19PM ORGANIZATIONS LIKE PORT, CHAMBER.
08:22:23PM I FORGOT WHAT THE OTHER, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND PROVIDE
08:22:29PM RESEARCH AND FUND A PERSON ON PROTOCOL.
08:22:31PM IF A DIGNITARY COMES HERE AND MOSTLY THEY WORK WITH
08:22:35PM ADMINISTRATION.
08:22:36PM THAT ONE I THINK HAS TO BE INCLUDED UNDER ECONOMIC
08:22:38PM DEVELOPMENT ALSO.
08:22:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ASKING TO PULL THOSE -- ALL-INCLUSIVE.
08:22:42PM NOT JUST THOSE -- I WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO THROUGH
08:22:45PM THAT LIST, IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:22:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU STARTED TALKING OF ECONOMIC
08:22:53PM DEVELOPMENT.
08:22:54PM THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT COULD BE
08:22:56PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:22:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT NOTE.
08:23:01PM SEPARATING.
08:23:01PM LOOKING AT CUTTING THEIR FUNDING IN ANY WAY.
08:23:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS WE HEARD IN THE DISCUSSION.
08:23:09PM AS SEVEN INDIVIDUALS, WE COME WITH -- THE ADMINISTRATION OF
08:23:13PM MANY MORE FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
08:23:15PM AND I THINK IT -- IT WILL BE MUCH EASIER TO DIGEST OF HOW WE
08:23:21PM ARE SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY.
08:23:22PM OKAY, IS THIS DOLLAR WE ARE SPENDING BECAUSE IT RETURNS X
08:23:27PM AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN RETURN OR THIS MONEY SPENDING BECAUSE
08:23:29PM WE ARE -- BECAUSE WE ARE -- OUR -- OUR JUST -- OUR JUST
08:23:35PM RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE CITY TO PROVIDE FOR PEOPLE WHO, YOU
08:23:37PM KNOW, THAT NEED THAT EXTRA HAND UP.
08:23:39PM YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DIVIDE THOSE ISSUES UP TO
08:23:42PM MAKE A BETTER DECISION HOW WE ARE FUNDING -- FUNDING
08:23:46PM PROGRAMS.
08:23:47PM SO IT IS KIND OF ODD TO TALK OF TELEVISION PRODUCTION IN THE
08:23:50PM SAME BREATH THAT WE ARE TALKING OF FEEDING KIDS OR HELPING
08:23:54PM -- HELPING SOMEBODY TO GET OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.
08:23:57PM IT IS KIND OF -- IT IS ODD TO BE ABLE TO TALK OF THE TWO OR
08:24:01PM MUSEUM VERSUS --
08:24:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I GET IT.
08:24:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ADD, THE WHOLE LIST CAN BE SEEN AS
08:24:06PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:24:07PM ALL ADDS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:24:10PM BUT CERTAIN ONE OF THESE THAT ARE SERVICES THAT ESSENTIALLY
08:24:14PM THE CITY IS OUTSOURCING.
08:24:15PM THE SISTER CITY, IF THERE WAS NOT A NONPROFIT TO HELP RAISE
08:24:20PM MONEY FOR IT, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO OTHERWISE DO THAT
08:24:23PM COMPLETELY THEMSELVES.
08:24:24PM THE SAME THING WITH THE PROTOCOL OFFICE.
08:24:27PM THE SAME THING SUPPORTING TAMPA.
08:24:30PM AND THESE ARE SERVICES THAT THE CITY IS OUTSOURCING.
08:24:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:24:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND, AGAIN, I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO THE
08:24:37PM CONCEPT OF ENDOWMENTS.
08:24:39PM WE DON'T TALK.
08:24:45PM WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT SOME OF THESE
08:24:48PM ORGANIZATIONS, ESPECIALLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEED TO BE
08:24:50PM ABLE TO CREATE ENDOWMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT CITY HELP.
08:24:53PM AND THERE ARE, AGAIN, QUITE A FEW OF THESE THAT WE NEED TO
08:24:57PM HELP WITH THAT.
08:24:57PM IF THEY NEED HELP, BUT AT SOME POINT, THOSE WHO ARE
08:25:03PM FINANCIALLY ABLE TO -- TO ASSIST THEMSELVES, ALLOW US TO BE
08:25:08PM ABLE TO HELP MORE ORGANIZATIONS IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND I
08:25:14PM DON'T DISAGREE.
08:25:19PM WE NEED TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ENCOURAGE THOSE
08:25:22PM WHO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO LOOK FOR SOURCES THAT THEY
08:25:26PM CAN KEEP FOREVER.
08:25:27PM AND FOR ME, THAT IS WORKING ON ENDOWMENTS.
08:25:30PM AND IF FOLKS -- ENDOWMENT ARE BASICALLY ABLE TO COLLECT
08:25:35PM ENOUGH MONEY SO YOU CAN PAY FOR THINGS FROM THE RETURN.
08:25:38PM AND SOME FOLKS CAN DO THAT.
08:25:42PM THE LIMB MOM AND POP THAT ARE GETTING $5,000 CAN'T DO THAT,
08:25:47PM BUT THOSE WHO HELP CREATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
08:25:49PM HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE
08:25:53PM ENDOWMENT.
08:25:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:25:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: STATE THE MOTION AGAIN, PLEASE.
08:25:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:26:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO THROUGH
08:26:02PM THIS LIST -- THE MOTION WAS TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO
08:26:05PM THROUGH THE LIST AND PULL OUT THE -- THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT
08:26:09PM ARE MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPING ORIENTED TO CREATE A SUBSET
08:26:14PM LIST.
08:26:16PM WE NEVER VOTED ON IT.
08:26:17PM I TURNED TO THEM DID WE VOTE ON THIS.
08:26:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOT CAUGHT IN DISCUSSION.
08:26:26PM A MOTION AND A SECOND AND SECOND IS VIERA.
08:26:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL NOT SAY HOW I AM GOING TO VOTE BUT
08:26:32PM I WILL LISTEN TO IT.
08:26:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT MUCH OF A DISCUSSION.
08:26:34PM ASKING THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT TO GO THROUGH THIS
08:26:36PM LIST AND DIVIDE -- TAKE OUT OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
08:26:40PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:26:41PM THEY ARE NOT REALLY SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUNDING.
08:26:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
08:26:47PM THANK YOU FOR THAT REQUEST.
08:26:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:26:54PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:26:55PM ANY OPPOSED?
08:26:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CHAIR --
08:27:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO ENTER THIS INTO THE RECORD.
08:27:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE WHY UP DATED LIST WITH THE CORRECT
08:27:07PM 124 NUMBER.
08:27:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON HAD HER HAND UP
08:27:14PM FIRST.
08:27:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALSO TO ME, IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDED
08:27:17PM BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '25.
08:27:19PM I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANY PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION UNDER THE
08:27:23PM BUS BECAUSE THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED AND PRESENTED
08:27:26PM TO US, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD CAP SOCIAL ACTION FUNDING AT
08:27:30PM $100,000.
08:27:31PM IT IS NOT NECESSARY.
08:27:32PM IF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION WHERE -- ESPECIALLY
08:27:36PM THESE ORGANIZATIONS OVER AT THAT.
08:27:39PM THERE ARE FIVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE OVER $150,000.
08:27:43PM THEY ARE THE REPEATERS AND HAVE BEEN ON HERE FOR A VERY LONG
08:27:48PM TIME.
08:27:48PM I THINK WE SHOULD CAP IT.
08:27:49PM NOT THIS YEAR, BUT THIS IS THE LAST YEAR WHERE WE WILL GIVE
08:27:52PM FUNDING AS THESE LEVELS.
08:27:54PM AND WHERE WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE WHERE IT CAN BE A RANGE OF
08:27:59PM OVER $25,000 AND THEN THE RANGE OF $25,000 TO $125,000.
08:28:04PM BECAUSE FOR THREE OF THEM, PUBLIC ACCESS TELEVISION AND THE
08:28:07PM CABLE CONSORTIUM.
08:28:10PM PUBLIC ACCESS 08.
08:28:12PM FILM AND DIGITAL COMMISSION GET 100.
08:28:16PM SO, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE IN THE -- YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT A
08:28:21PM BUSINESS THAT IS NECESSARILY IMPACTFUL TO US.
08:28:23PM AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS NECESSARY FOR US -- FOR THEM TO BE
08:28:26PM AT HIGH FUNDING LEVELS BECAUSE IT STANDS OUT ESPECIALLY WHEN
08:28:33PM YOU LOOK AT WE ARE GIVING FEEDING TAMPA BAY $200,000 AND WE
08:28:36PM KNOW THE GREAT IMPACT.
08:28:39PM I DON'T KNOW IF THE IMPACT IS OF BEING AT THE SAME LEVEL OF
08:28:43PM FEEDING TAMPA BAY.
08:28:44PM GET A SUPPORT ON THE MOTION THAT CAN HE CAP IT ON $800,000.
08:28:47PM NOT -- I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY'S FUNDING FOR FY '25.
08:28:54PM THE LAST YEAR WE GO OVER $100,000 AND EVERYONE ON THE LIST
08:28:57PM IS NOTIFIED THAT THE HIGHEST THE CITY WILL GO WITH $100,000
08:29:01PM IN SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS.
08:29:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLD ON A BIT, MR. SHELBY.
08:29:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY DID YOU WANT -- IF IT IS THE
08:29:09PM MOTION -- I CAN DISCUSS AND SEE IF THERE IS A SECOND.
08:29:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
08:29:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SESSION TO THE MOTION?
08:29:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I -- I WILL SECOND.
08:29:18PM I PROBABLY WON'T VOTE IT BUT I WILL SECOND TO DISCUSS IT.
08:29:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN,
08:29:25PM AGAIN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
08:29:28PM I WAS NOT AWARE IN THINK COUNCILMEMBERS -- OR THE CLERK NOR I
08:29:34PM HAD A COPY OF THE LIST THAT IS REFERENCED TO.
08:29:36PM MY JOB AS CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THE PROCESS IS
08:29:41PM TRANSPARENT AND FREE AND ASK THAT THE CCTV PUT ON THE SCREEN
08:29:46PM THE LIST THAT IS BEING REFERRED TO.
08:29:48PM AND YOU CAN SEE IT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER.
08:29:50PM PLACED ON THE ELMO EARLIER, BUT I WANT TO STATE FOR THE
08:29:53PM RECORD THAT IS BEING PROVIDED TO MAKE SURE EVERY
08:29:56PM COUNCILMEMBER HAS THAT LIST.
08:29:58PM AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF MOVING FORWARD, THE ADMINISTRATION
08:30:01PM KNOW WHAT IS LIST YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
08:30:02PM AND LIST IS NOW GOING TO BE PLACED INTO THE RECORD.
08:30:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
08:30:07PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:30:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
08:30:09PM I CAN'T SUPPORT IT FOR THIS VERY REASON.
08:30:12PM RIGHT NOW THE STATE CUT EVERY SINGLE PENNY OF ARTS FUNDING.
08:30:18PM THE COUNTY WON'T DO SOCIAL ACTION FUNDING AT ALL -- OR IF
08:30:22PM THEY DO, ON A MUCH LIMITED LEVEL -- MUCH MORE LIMITED LEVEL.
08:30:26PM RIGHT NOW WE ARE IT.
08:30:27PM SO I WOULD BE MORE RECEPTIVE TO THAT, MAYBE, IN A COUPLE OF
08:30:33PM YEARS, BUT RIGHT NOW, WITH THE GOVERNMENT -- WITH THE STATE
08:30:37PM GOVERNMENT AND THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF
08:30:40PM THESE PLACES DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO.
08:30:43PM I AM HESITANT TO SUPPORT THAT GOING FORWARD.
08:30:45PM FOR THE NEXT CALENDAR -- THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
08:30:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
08:30:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ON HERE FOR A VERY
08:30:55PM LONG TIME.
08:30:55PM THAT IS -- WE HAVE TO DECIDE ON SOME LEVEL OF A CAP OR WE
08:31:01PM ARE SHOWING FAVORITISM TO CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS.
08:31:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT I --
08:31:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
08:31:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I DON'T DISAGREE YOU WITH.
08:31:10PM WHICH IS WHY I WANT TO WORK ON A HOW -- A METHOD TO GET
08:31:16PM ORGANIZATIONS OFF THE GLANCE.
08:31:18PM THAT WILL TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS.
08:31:20PM IN MOVING THEM OFF, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT -- ONCE WE
08:31:23PM HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO HELP THEM FIND BETTER GRANTS TO
08:31:26PM BE A PASS THROUGH AND TO HELP THEM FIND OTHER WAYS TO GET
08:31:32PM THE FUNDING ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THAT GOING FORWARD.
08:31:36PM WE NEED TO GIVE IT A COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE
08:31:40PM DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF APPLYING.
08:31:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MAYBE SHOULD AMEND THE MOTION TO HAVE A
08:31:45PM WORKSHOP TO PUBLICLY DECIDE ON SOME PARAMETERS.
08:31:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS YOUR MOTION.
08:31:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL CHANGE THAT TO A WORKSHOP.
08:31:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE TAKING BACK.
08:31:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.
08:31:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM WITHDRAWING IT.
08:32:02PM THE MOTION IS TO ESTABLISH A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN TERM THE
08:32:07PM PARAMETERS MOVING FORWARD --
08:32:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
08:32:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: -- FOR FISCAL YEAR '25.
08:32:12PM BEYOND FISCAL YEAR '25.
08:32:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA --
08:32:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO WE HAVE ROOM -- SEPTEMBER OR AFTER
08:32:22PM THAT.
08:32:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY JANUARY ARE LOOKING AT.
08:32:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JANUARY IS FINE.
08:32:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WILL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME.
08:32:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JANUARY IS YOUR NEXT WORKSHOP.
08:32:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT R YEAH, IT
08:32:40PM WILL WORK.
08:32:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU CLEAR ON THE MOTION, MADAM CLERK.
08:32:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:32:46PM NOW GO WITH DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION.
08:32:47PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CLENDENIN, AND CARLSON.
08:32:51PM MIRANDA VIERA THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:32:53PM IMPLORE ABOUT PERFORMANCE AND MONEY.
08:32:56PM IF YOU WERE GIVING OUT MONEY, YOU ARE GETTING POOR
08:32:59PM PERFORMANCE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IF YOU ARE PUTTING OUT MONEY
08:33:02PM AND GETTING A BETTER PERFORMANCE, IT IS A PLUS FOR THE
08:33:05PM TAXPAYERS.
08:33:06PM AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHENEVER WE HAVE THAT WORKSHOP AND
08:33:09PM HAVE SOME DIRECTION SOME PERFORMANCE -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO
08:33:12PM HAVE ONE FOR $25,000, THEY ALL GOT TO SUPPLY THAT
08:33:16PM INFORMATION OF WHAT THEY DO ON A -- ON -- I DON'T KNOW HOW
08:33:20PM WE ARE GOING TO WORK IT.
08:33:21PM SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, OR HALF A YEAR AND CHECK OUT WHATEVER
08:33:25PM THEY ARE DOING AND HOW WELL THEY ARE DOING FOR THE MONEY
08:33:29PM THEY ARE GIVING.
08:33:29PM IT IS A BUSINESS ON THEIR SIDE AND THE TAXPAYER SIDE.
08:33:33PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:33:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN AND CARLSON.
08:33:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SUPPORT THIS BRINGING IT TO A
08:33:39PM WORKSHOP.
08:33:39PM BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
08:33:42PM JUST REMEMBER THAT NOT EVERY ORGANIZATION IS THE SAME AND
08:33:46PM WHILE IT ASKS FOR THE LIST TO BE DIVIDED.
08:33:48PM SOME A RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
08:33:50PM SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT IN PERPETUITY IT IS BENEFICIAL
08:33:54PM FOR THE CITY TO FUND BECAUSE THEY ARE PROVIDING A SERVICE
08:33:56PM FOR US .
08:33:58PM AND NOT JUST CHARITY, WE ARE GETTING MONEY.
08:34:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE GETTING A RETURN FOR ANY INVESTMENT.
08:34:07PM WHEN WE FEED THE CHILDREN FROM OUR COMMUNITY WITH
08:34:09PM STEPPINGSTONES, WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING A RETURN.
08:34:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I STAND CORRECTED ON.
08:34:15PM THERE ARE ECONOMIC RETURNS ON SOME THING AND JUST -- AS I
08:34:18PM STAYED FOUR OR FIVE TIMES IN OUR CONVERSATION OF JUST
08:34:20PM SATURDAY AND BEING A JUST CITY OF THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE
08:34:23PM PROVIDE, SO, YES, I DO.
08:34:25PM BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS THE -- IF THE CITY IS
08:34:28PM SPENDING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND GETTING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS
08:34:32PM BACK OR A SERVICE FOR THAT.
08:34:34PM THAT'S WHY IT IS DIVIDED OUT OF THIS FUND AND SEPARATELY.
08:34:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:34:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THIS.
08:34:44PM THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE INVOLVED IN AND PRESENT WHAT
08:34:48PM THEIR CRITERIA IS.
08:34:49PM AND WE WILL ABLE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEM AND HEAR
08:34:53PM FROM THE COMMUNITY PARTLY COLLAR FLYING AND A POINT.
08:34:58PM I WAS TALKING OF SEPARATING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FROM THE
08:35:02PM REST OF THEM, MY INTENTION -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
08:35:05PM INTENTION WAS OF YOUR MOTION, BUT MY INTENTION WAS THAT THEY
08:35:09PM -- THE PURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THESE ARE
08:35:12PM SERVICES THAT WHERE OUTSOURCED FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:35:17PM MY INTENTION IS THAT THEY WOULD TRANSFER TO BE SERVICES AND
08:35:23PM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET AND ECONOMIC FOLKS LIKE
08:35:28PM THE CDC.
08:35:28PM WE OUT THERE DOING BUSINESS RECRUITMENT TO THE EDC AND PAY
08:35:33PM $550,000 A YEAR.
08:35:35PM IF WE HAD A LIST THAT SAID EDC, TAMPA BAY WAVE ABOUT SISTER
08:35:40PM CITY PROGRAM, PROTOCOL, EVERYTHING ELSE.
08:35:43PM THESE ARE THE SERVICES THAT -- THESE ARE THE ECONOMIC
08:35:46PM DIRECTOR CAN REVIEW THEM.
08:35:47PM MEASURE THEM AND WORK -- WOK THE OUTSOURCE WITH THEIR STAFF
08:35:53PM TO MANAGE IT, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM -- FROM THESE OTHER
08:35:57PM SERVICES.
08:35:57PM THANK YOU.
08:35:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
08:36:02PM I THINK WE ARE IN THE SAME MIND SET.
08:36:05PM I SAID CLOSE, CLOSE.
08:36:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A GOOD WORKSHOP IN
08:36:10PM JANUARY.
08:36:10PM I WILL RESERVE MY WORDS FOR JANUARY.
08:36:12PM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:36:13PM ALL IN FAVOR.
08:36:14PM ANY OPPOSED.
08:36:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I TALK ON THAT MOTION.
08:36:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:36:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: VETERANS HELPING VETERANS.
08:36:25PM YOU HAVE SEEN THEIR WORK.
08:36:26PM AMAZING.
08:36:27PM A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT DO THIS ARE WITH THE VETERANS
08:36:30PM TREATMENT COURT.
08:36:31PM THEY ARE LED BY MIKE ODELL THAT MANY OF YOU KNOW JUST --
08:36:35PM THOSE FOLKS DO AMAZING WORK.
08:36:36PM AND THEN MERCIFUL PROJECT.
08:36:39PM WE TALKED ABOUT THEM LAST YEAR, $7500.
08:36:42PM I JUST WANTED US TO FULFILL THAT.
08:36:46PM I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CFO'S OFFICE TO RETURN TO
08:36:50PM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING WHEN THEY CAN DO IT.
08:36:53PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT DATE IT WILL BE WITH THE FINANCIAL
08:36:56PM RESOLUTION MAKING THE CHANGES LISTED UNDER SOCIAL ARTS AND
08:36:59PM ACTION FUND TO INCLUDE THESE TWO PROPOSED CHANGES.
08:37:01PM AND SIR, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE GOOD FOR YOU GUYS.
08:37:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SIX CHANGES.
08:37:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO ALL OF THEM.
08:37:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK.
08:37:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
08:37:15PM YEAH.
08:37:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAMPA BAY BLACK HERITAGE FESTIVAL.
08:37:21PM WHITE A FEW.
08:37:22PM ADDITIONAL FUNDING --
08:37:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCEPT ALL THE ACCEPT ALL THE POTENTIAL
08:37:29PM CHANGES.
08:37:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO I HEARBY MAKE A MOTION -- AND BEFORE I DO
08:37:33PM THAT, WHEN SHOULD WE HAVE THAT RETURNED TO US SIR?
08:37:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE CAN HAVE IT THE FIRST MEETING IN
08:37:40PM OCTOBER.
08:37:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: WILL GLADLY DO THAT.
08:37:43PM THE CFO'S REPORT RETURNS TO CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 3,
08:37:47PM REGULAR SESSION, WITH A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION MAKING THE
08:37:49PM CHANGES LISTED UNDER THE SOCIAL ARTS AND ACTION FUND TO
08:37:53PM INCLUDE THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
08:37:55PM AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE POTENTIAL CHANGE.
08:37:57PM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I READ THESE FOR THE MOTION, THAT IF
08:38:01PM I MAY, CORNERSTONE MINISTRIES, FRIENDS OF THE RIVER WALK,
08:38:04PM MERCIFUL PROJECT, TAMPA BAY BLACK HERITAGE FESTIVAL,
08:38:08PM VETERANS HELPING VETERANS, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.
08:38:11PM ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.
08:38:13PM THAT'S IT.
08:38:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SORRY, IF I CAN CLARIFY, THAT WILL COULD AM
08:38:19PM FROM THE UNALLOCATED FUNDING LINE ITEM AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
08:38:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 87,500.
08:38:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COUNCIL'S INTENT.
08:38:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WALL OF $124,656 AFTER THIS.
08:38:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A QUESTION.
08:38:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
08:38:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND. COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
08:38:38PM YES, SIR.
08:38:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: CHIEF OF STAFF, AND YOU MAY HAVE ASKED THIS
08:38:42PM BEFORE.
08:38:42PM CAN YOU VERY ANY THE ADMINISTRATION HAS VERY VIEWED ALL
08:38:46PM THESE AND TAKEN THEM THROUGH YOUR PROCESS?
08:38:49PM OR WILL YOU BE ABLE TO DO IT BY THE TIME WE HAVE THIS
08:38:51PM MEETING SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE -- THAT THEY ARE
08:38:54PM APPROVED THROUGH YOUR NORMAL PROCESS THAT YOU APPLY TO ALL
08:38:57PM THE OTHER NONPROFITS?
08:39:00PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THE ONES THAT ARE REQUESTING CHANGES?
08:39:02PM THE ONES IN THE MOTION?
08:39:04PM IF -- AGAIN, THROUGH THE CURRENT PROCESS, IF IT IS BELOW 25,
08:39:08PM IT WILL COME FOR THE ONE-PAGE PROCESS.
08:39:10PM IF IT IS MORE THAN 25, THAT -- THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE
08:39:14PM BOILER PLATE LEGAL AGREEMENT AND THE SCOPE OF SERVICES.
08:39:17PM SO, YES.
08:39:19PM SO IN OTHER WORDS, ONCE THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, THAT IS THE
08:39:22PM PLAN TO IMPLEMENT AND EXECUTE THAT GO THROUGH THE FULL
08:39:28PM VETTING PROCESS AT THAT TIME.
08:39:29PM CAN I SHARE ONE MORE THING WITH COUNCIL?
08:39:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
08:39:35PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THING IS PRIME FOR THE WORKSHOP DISCUSSION
08:39:39PM AND I WANTED TO PUT THE THOUGHT BUBBLE HERE.
08:39:41PM WITH SOME OF THESE, I SEE AS SPECIAL EVENTS OPPOSED TO
08:39:44PM ECONOMICS DEVELOPMENT OR SOCIAL ACTION AND PURPOSES.
08:39:47PM AND IF COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD THAT THERE
08:39:51PM IS A NUMBER THAT WE CAN OBVIOUSLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
08:39:55PM THERE IS A LOT OF START-UP SPECIAL EVENTS VERY SMALL RUNS
08:40:02PM AND VERY DIVERSE TOO.
08:40:03PM BECAUSE THEY HAVE SMALL HARD COSTS, THEY ARE GETTING DENIED
08:40:07PM AND HAVE TO COME OUT OF POCKET BEFORE THEY GET STARTED AND
08:40:10PM CREATE REVENUE STREAM.
08:40:11PM AND THEY ARE SELF-CONTAINED IN PARKS.
08:40:14PM YOU HAVE KNOW THEY ARE VERY MANAGEABLE EVENTS, AND THEY COME
08:40:18PM WITH HARD COSTS.
08:40:19PM IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT
08:40:22PM REMAINED FOR THE DISCRETION OF A OF TO APPLY THOSE TO THOSE
08:40:26PM SPECIAL EVENTS, WE WILL BE HEAPING DOZENS OF SMALL SPECIAL
08:40:30PM EVENTS GET OFF THE GROUND SO THEY CAN GET SOME REVENUE, SO
08:40:33PM THAT IS SOMETHING TO SAY FOR THE FUTURE --
08:40:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR THE WORKSHOP.
08:40:38PM A GOOD IDEA.
08:40:38PM LEFTOVER FUNDING FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED US THAT FALL WITHIN --
08:40:42PM I LIKE THAT.
08:40:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:40:44PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:40:45PM ANY OPPOSED?
08:40:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID THEY VOTE --
08:40:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MADAM CLERK, DID WE VOTE ALREADY?
08:40:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DID NOT VOTE.
08:40:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE JUST DID IT.
08:40:59PM WE ARE GOOD.
08:41:00PM WE HAVE VOTED.
08:41:02PM ALL RIGHT.
08:41:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I SAY SOMETHING.
08:41:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE BEEN AWAKE SINCE 1 A.M.
08:41:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FOR OUR FRIENDS, THE RIVER WALK, A
08:41:15PM REMINDER A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN -- MY VOICE -- TO
08:41:19PM DISCUSS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
08:41:21PM READING AND WE SHOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE CHANGES, AND I WANTED
08:41:25PM TO SAY THAT.
08:41:26PM THANK YOU.
08:41:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ABOUT WITH REGARDS FOR.
08:41:29PM I MET WITH TAMPA BAY WAVE AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER
08:41:32PM COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE.
08:41:32PM BECAUSE -- EVEN THOUGH $100,000 HERE.
08:41:36PM THE CONVERSATION ISN'T OVER.
08:41:39PM I SEE MEMBERS HERE.
08:41:40PM SO I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW.
08:41:41PM ALL RIGHT.
08:41:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY WANT MORE MONEY THAN THIS?
08:41:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYBODY WANTS MORE MONEY -- NOT ME.
08:41:48PM THAT CONCLUDES THAT DISCUSSION.
08:41:50PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:41:51PM YOU HAVE AN ITEM?
08:41:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO.
08:41:52PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REALLOCATE $5 MILLION FOR
08:41:56PM SMART CITY GUIDANCE ITEM 10525 IN THE PARKING CIP PROPOSED
08:42:04PM BUDGET TO STREET RESURFACING UNDER 1023520 TO WHATEVER THE
08:42:09PM NEW NUMBER WILL BE AND THE TRANSPORTATION CIP BUDGET.
08:42:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
08:42:14PM HURTAK.
08:42:14PM CAN I JUST SAY THAT STREET PAVING IS THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT
08:42:18PM THAT I CAN GET.
08:42:19PM IF WE CAN MAKE ANY INCREASE -- ANY INCREASE ON -- IN OUR
08:42:23PM BUDGET FOR THAT.
08:42:23PM I UNDERSTAND REGARDING THE SMART -- THE SMART CITY PARKING
08:42:28PM GUIDANCE PROGRAM.
08:42:29PM MR. BHIDE, YOU HAVE BEEN UP HERE, BUT --
08:42:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID WE HAVE A SECOND?
08:42:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE GOT A SECOND.
08:42:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ADDRESS THAT FROM THE BUDGET STANDPOINT.
08:42:41PM WHERE DO YOU WANT THIS FROM?
08:42:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE PARKING BUDGET.
08:42:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
08:42:51PM I KNOW VIK WILL SAY -- A WORTHY PROJECT.
08:42:55PM YOU GO TO DISNEY AND THE GARAGES YOU SEE IT.
08:42:57PM A LOT OF THESE PLACES AND WE SEE IT.
08:42:59PM UNFORTUNATELY THAT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE SCRAMBLING FOR MONEY
08:43:02PM TO DO THE BASIC NEED OF REPAVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT
08:43:05PM THIS IS THE REALITY WE ARE DEALT WITH.
08:43:07PM I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS A WORTHY PROJECT.
08:43:11PM I LIKE IT.
08:43:12PM I THINK IT IS A NICE THING TO HAVE AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
08:43:14PM ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING LIKE THIS SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE, BUT
08:43:17PM RIGHT NOW, THE NEED FOR PAVING EXCEED THE NEEDS FOR THIS.
08:43:21PM AND WE JUST GOT TO DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO.
08:43:23PM WE NEED TO BITE THE BULLET AND SAY THIS IS MORE OF THE NEED.
08:43:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN YOU SPEAK ON IN, VIK BHIDE.
08:43:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
08:43:31PM SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS PROJECT -- YOU
08:43:38PM SAID IT FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS, THAT IS WHY WE PROPOSED
08:43:41PM THIS PROJECT.
08:43:42PM IT, ONE, GIVES REVENUE BACK TO THE CITY.
08:43:45PM AND, ALSO, ADDRESSES SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES.
08:43:49PM I WANT TO SEE OUR CIP BUDGET FOR PARKING HAS BEEN DEVELOPED
08:43:57PM BASED ON WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT TO PUT A MASTER PLAN
08:44:02PM TOGETHER.
08:44:02PM OUR FIRST YEAR, OUR GOAL WAS TO ADDRESS SOME CHAPTER 15
08:44:06PM WHICH IS WHAT PARKING IS UNDER ITEMS THAT FROM A POLICY
08:44:10PM PERSPECTIVE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
08:44:12PM AND WE SHOULD BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU WITHIN THE NEXT 90
08:44:16PM DAYS.
08:44:17PM AND THE OTHER WAS, PROGRAMMABILITY, WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS AN
08:44:21PM ENTERPRISE.
08:44:23PM OVER FIVE YEARS RIGHT NOW THROUGH FY '29, WE HAVE $29
08:44:27PM MILLION ALLOCATED FOR MAINTENANCE.
08:44:30PM $18 MILLION FOR TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS.
08:44:33PM THE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENT MAY NOT SEEM CRITICAL.
08:44:38PM RELATIVE TO OTHER -- RELATIVE TO OTHER CHALLENGES, OF
08:44:42PM COURSE.
08:44:42PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT A LOT OF THESE DO WHAT
08:44:47PM OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE TO SEND ROAD TRUCKS.
08:44:52PM WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF OUR BUSINESS TO DO.
08:44:54PM AND THINGS LIKE ENFORCEMENT.
08:44:55PM VEHICLES PARKED IN BIKE LANES OR PICK-UP DROP-OFFS FOR MAJOR
08:45:01PM EVENTS OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
08:45:03PM THAT IS WHAT SOME OF THESE TECHNOLOGY SPENDING IS PROGRAMMED
08:45:07PM FOR.
08:45:07PM BUT COUNCIL'S POINT IS TOTALLY TAKEN GIVEN TO THE BIGGEST
08:45:14PM COMPLAINT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND THAT IS PAVING AND
08:45:17PM SIDEWALKS.
08:45:17PM AND ALSO DIRECTLY TIED TO OUR SAFETY PROGRAM.
08:45:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT.
08:45:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: A CLARIFICATION GERMANE TO THE $1.5 MILLION
08:45:32PM EARLIER TOO.
08:45:32PM IF I COULD SUGGEST FOR EVERYBODY'S EASE THAT WE BRING THESE
08:45:37PM CHANGES TO YOU IN OCTOBER AGAIN AT THE FIRST MEETING.
08:45:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS FINE.
08:45:42PM IS THAT GOOD WITH THE MOTION MAKERS?
08:45:46PM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO OFFICIALLY VOTE BASICALLY ON A
08:45:50PM RESOLUTION, THAT'S CORRECT?
08:45:51PM OR TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION TO THAT MONEY IS MOVED AND
08:45:54PM ALLOCATED.
08:45:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, IN OCTOBER, WE HAVE TO BRING YOU A
08:45:57PM FINANCIAL RESOLUTION AGAIN FOR YOU TO APPROVE.
08:45:59PM THAT MEETS YOUR END GOALS FOR ALL OF THESE MOTIONS.
08:46:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE MOTION WILL STILL STAND.
08:46:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
08:46:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE MOTION WILL STAND AND ROLL IT INTO THE
08:46:11PM PROBABLY.
08:46:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU SAID IT BETTER THAN I.
08:46:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, IS THAT GOOD YOU WITH.
08:46:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
08:46:17PM I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. ROGERO EARLIER TODAY AND THE
08:46:21PM PURPOSE BEING, AS YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE BUDGET -- THE WAY
08:46:23PM THE CHARTER READS, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE
08:46:26PM CHANGES, BUT LOGISTICALLY, IT WORKS BETTER FOR THEM TO BE
08:46:31PM ABLE TO DO THAT AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
08:46:35PM THE COMMITMENT IS BY THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THIS IS ALSO
08:46:38PM WHAT THEY ARE BRINGING TO YOU ON OCTOBER 3 WILL BE A
08:46:44PM REFLECTION OF ACTION OF ACTIONS YOU MADE TODAY.
08:46:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE ONE OF THE MOTION IS FOR TO YOU
08:46:55PM CREATE -- I FORGET THE FANCY TERMINOLOGY, BASICALLY A CHECK
08:47:00PM OFF -- A LIST OF ALL THE CHANGES WE WANT TO MAKE.
08:47:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
08:47:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMETHING YOU CAN BRING TO US BY THE SECOND
08:47:05PM READING -- BY THE SECOND BUDGET HEARING?
08:47:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ABSOLUTELY.
08:47:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK IF WE HAVE THAT.
08:47:12PM WE HAVE THE LIST AND VOTE WITH CONFIDENCE THAT EVERYTHING WE
08:47:15PM HAVE.
08:47:15PM AND THE CHANGES WE MADE ARE THERE.
08:47:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
08:47:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:47:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE I -- JUST TO RESTATE MY POSITION
08:47:24PM OF -- OF REQUESTING THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT TO GO
08:47:26PM BACK AND SCRUB THE BUDGET AND LOOK FOR MORE MONEY REPAVING
08:47:30PM TO BE PRESENTED AT THE BUDGET.
08:47:31PM I AM NOT LEAVING IT AT JUST THIS.
08:47:34PM SO I AM ASKING -- SO WHEN WE SEE THIS AGAIN, THE
08:47:37PM ADMINISTRATION WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE BUDGET AND MEET
08:47:40PM THAT UNMET NEED THAT WE HAVE FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES FOR
08:47:44PM PAVING AND REPAVING.
08:47:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
08:47:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:47:48PM SO, YES?
08:47:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I HAVE A DIFFERENT THING.
08:47:51PM DO WE --
08:47:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID WE VOTE ON IT?
08:47:55PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN -- NO?
08:47:57PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:47:58PM THIS IS REGARDING THE SMART CITY PARKING GUIDANCE AND
08:48:03PM RESURFACING.
08:48:03PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:48:04PM ANY OPPOSED?
08:48:07PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ARE UP.
08:48:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
08:48:09PM I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE WITH THIS
08:48:12PM ENDING AVAILABLE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
08:48:14PM LAST YEAR, WE DECIDED TO MAKE THAT 22%.
08:48:17PM AND IT IS UP TO YOU 23%.
08:48:20PM AND THAT IS BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT THEY HAVE MONEY AT THE
08:48:24PM END OF THE YEAR TO FIT THAT $5 MILLION.
08:48:26PM WHAT WE DID WAS TOOK $5 MILLION OUT OF THE BUDGET LAST YEAR
08:48:30PM TO GO TOWARD -- I BELIEVE IT WAS HOUSING.
08:48:32PM WELL, WE STILL HAVE THAT $5 MILLION, BECAUSE WE ARE UP TO
08:48:36PM 23%.
08:48:37PM SO I THINK WE SHOULD SPEND THAT MONEY.
08:48:39PM IF WE WANT TO FIND PAVING MONEY, THERE IT IS.
08:48:41PM WE HAVEN'T SCRAMBLING TO FIND MONEY.
08:48:44PM IT IS LITERALLY OUR PRIORITIES.
08:48:46PM WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES.
08:48:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEP.
08:48:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I HAVE ONE MORE MOTION TO MAKE ABOUT THIS
08:48:55PM -- ABOUT THIS -- I MOTION TO MOVE $500,000 FROM THE
08:48:59PM UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR FY '24 TO ART SPACE, WHICH WILL
08:49:05PM PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE $40,000 TO 60,000 AMI
08:49:12PM PERPETUITY.
08:49:13PM I BEEN AT THIS TO COME FROM THIS.
08:49:14PM BUT I ALSO -- I MEAN, I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THERE IS FOUR AND
08:49:18PM A HALF MILLION SIT THIS UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR 2024.
08:49:23PM THESE ARE THE KIND OF STUFF WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
08:49:26PM WE TOOK THAT $5 MILLION AND MAGICALLY REAPPEARED.
08:49:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS AWARE THE MONEY IS THERE AND OTHER
08:49:32PM -- THAT IS WHY I REQUESTED THE ADMINISTRATION TO SCRUB THIS
08:49:36PM BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER AND THEY ARE ALSO AWARE THAT THIS
08:49:39PM MONEY IS THERE AND OTHER LINE ITEMS AND THEY ARE MORE
08:49:43PM EQUIPPED AND HAVE THE FINANCIAL STAFF TO GO THROUGH THAT AND
08:49:46PM PRESENT IT TO US OF THE UNMET NEED.
08:49:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO GO BACK TO ART SPACE, I JUST WANT TO LET
08:49:52PM YOU ALTHOUGH THIS IS AN YBOR CITY PROPERTY THAT THE ART
08:49:56PM SPACE IS A NATIONAL COMPANY THAT DONE THIS.
08:49:58PM WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO -- USE THIS FOR THE SOFT COSTS AND
08:50:02PM FUND RAISE TO GET THE EXTRA $6 MILLION THEY NEED.
08:50:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FALLS JUST OUTSIDE THE .
08:50:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FALLS JUST OUTSIDE THE CRA.
08:50:12PM THE LEAST AMOUNT WE CAN SPEND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO MAKE
08:50:16PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAPPEN.
08:50:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
08:50:17PM A MOTION AND A SECOND -- WAIT.
08:50:20PM MR. ROGERO AND THEN CARLSON.
08:50:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT WARN
08:50:25PM COUNCIL OF THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH REDUCING THE FUND
08:50:29PM BALANCE LESS THAN 23%.
08:50:31PM IT IS A SIMILAR WARNING I GAVE LAST YEAR AND COUNCIL DECIDED
08:50:35PM TO TAKE THAT ACTION.
08:50:35PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
08:50:36PM BUT WE HAVE A HISTORY THAT I HAVE SHOWN YOU AND THE RATING
08:50:43PM AGENCIES PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT HISTORY.
08:50:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS ONLY $500,000.
08:50:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
08:50:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, VIERA AND MIRANDA.
08:50:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO TALK TO AND I NEED TO MAKE A
08:50:56PM POINT, IF I CAN.
08:50:57PM MARTY, I AM FOUNDER, CO-FOUNDER OF THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
08:51:02PM ART SPACE -- ART SPACE IS A SEPARATE NONPROFIT, BUT IT IS
08:51:07PM ALSO A PROJECT OF THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
08:51:09PM I PERSONALLY HAVE CONTRIBUTED MONEY.
08:51:12PM MY COMPANIES CONTRIBUTED MONEY.
08:51:14PM I DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY ON IT.
08:51:16PM I DON'T PERSONALLY GAIN -- I DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL GAIN OR
08:51:19PM LOSS BUT I CONTRIBUTED MONEY TO IT.
08:51:22PM DO I HAVE A CONFLICT OR NOT?
08:51:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH THIS MOVEMENT OF $500,000.
08:51:30PM WILL THIS CAUSE YOU TO HAVE A FINANCIAL GAIN OR FINANCIAL
08:51:38PM LOSS.
08:51:38PM A FINANCIAL PRIVATE GAIN OR PRIVATE LOSS OR THAT OF YOUR
08:51:42PM COMPANY OR ANY RELATIVES?
08:51:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONLY EFFECTS THE NONPROFIT AND NONPROFIT
08:51:49PM DON'T HAVE SHAREHOLDERS.
08:51:50PM SHELBY YOU ARE NOT --
08:51:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE DONATED TO IT.
08:51:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE NOT AN OFFICER OF THIS COMPANY,
08:51:57PM THIS NONPROFIT.
08:51:58PM YOU ARE NOT ON THE BOARD.
08:52:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: AN OFFICER OF THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
08:52:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE.
08:52:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: LOCAL CONDUIT THAT WILL MOST LIKELY WEATHER
08:52:12PM WILL FLOW TO THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
08:52:14PM IT CAN GO DIRECTLY TO ART SPACE.
08:52:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO YOU ARE ACT BE -- YOU ARE ON THE BOARD
08:52:21PM OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE VOTE ON THE PASSAGE OF THIS
08:52:25PM MONEY AS A PASS-THROUGH TO THAT ORGANIZATION?
08:52:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL RECUSE MYSELF.
08:52:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:52:40PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:52:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM,
08:52:46PM COUNCILMAN.
08:52:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:52:51PM WITH THIS, I WANT TO SPECIFY WHY I AM VOTING THE WAY I AM.
08:52:55PM I HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS PROJECT.
08:52:57PM I THINK THIS IT IS A WONDERFUL THING.
08:52:59PM A BIG CHALLENGE ON THIS.
08:53:00PM I SUPPORT AFFORDABLE AND ACTABLE HOUSING FROM WELDERS TO
08:53:05PM EDUCATORS, ETC.
08:53:06PM IF WE ARE GOING TO FUNDING IS, THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR A
08:53:09PM GROUP, WE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
08:53:11PM WE TALKED OF SENIORS.
08:53:13PM WE TALKED ABOUT VETERANS.
08:53:14PM I SUPPORT THAT.
08:53:15PM I DON'T SUPPORT CITY TAX DOLLARS THAT SPECIFICALLY GO TO A
08:53:21PM VOCATION LIKE THIS.
08:53:22PM I CAN'T DO THAT FROM -- I AM FINE WITH TAKING SOME MONEY
08:53:26PM FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT I WANT TO
08:53:30PM MAKE SURE THAT IT GOES TO EVERYONE.
08:53:32PM AND I THINK US FUNDING THIS IS SOMETHING I AM NOT
08:53:36PM COMFORTABLE DOING.
08:53:37PM AND I TOLD -- WHEN I SPOKE TO THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE -- SOME
08:53:40PM VERY GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE PUSHING FOR THIS THAT I HAVE
08:53:43PM HESITANCY WITH THAT.
08:53:44PM I KNOW THERE WAS TALK OF EXPANDING THE CRA THIS POTENTIALLY.
08:53:49PM SO FOR ME, I KNOW THIS HAS THE VOTES TO PASS.
08:53:51PM I WANT TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.
08:53:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:53:55PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:53:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO STAY ONCE YOU START
08:53:59PM IDENTIFYING WITH A CERTAIN SECTOR, IT 5'7", 5'8" OR 5'9",
08:54:06PM SOMETHING FOR THAT SIZE AND BUILT FOR SOME.
08:54:08PM IT BECOME A NARROW THING AND I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
08:54:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:54:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS SAN ECONOMIC CATALYST.
08:54:17PM A MAGNET.
08:54:18PM ONE OF THE ITEMS I HAVE BEEN PUSHING -- A TALE-TALE IF I AM
08:54:23PM ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IN BEFORE I LEAVE COUNCIL.
08:54:25PM I WANT TO DO A SIMILAR THING FOR BLACK ARTISTS AS CATALYST.
08:54:30PM I THINK AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR
08:54:33PM BLACK ARTISTS TO SHOWCASE BLACK ART.
08:54:36PM TO BE ABLE TO LIVE, WORK AND DISPLAY AND SELL IN THAT AREA.
08:54:40PM AGAIN, ECONOMIC CAT LIST.
08:54:42PM THESE ARE THINGS -- YOU SEE THEM AROUND AND SEE PLACES
08:54:45PM AROUND THE COUNTRY, THESE THINGS THEY WORK.
08:54:47PM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SOMETHING THAT IS -- THAT IS --
08:54:51PM IT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
08:54:52PM IT IS GOOD FOR -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE BECAUSE
08:54:55PM WE HAVE SOMEBODY BE WHO IS WILLING TO STEP FORWARD AND DO
08:54:57PM THIS.
08:54:57PM I HAVE BEEN PUSHING THIS FROM DAY ONE.
08:55:01PM I HAD CONVERSATION FOR FOLKS AND BEFORE NICOLE LEFT, THEY
08:55:04PM ALL KNEW THAT -- AND THAT I WAS A BIG ADVOCATE FOR EAST
08:55:08PM TAMPA.
08:55:08PM I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT IT IS NOT JUST -- NOT JUST
08:55:15PM AN MYOPIC LOOK FOR SOMETHING.
08:55:19PM IT IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OF
08:55:22PM TAMPA.
08:55:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS GREAT.
08:55:25PM YOU SHOULD SAY PEOPLE OF COLOR.
08:55:27PM A LOT OF ARTISTS.
08:55:28PM WE WANT TO BE INCLUSIVE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT OUR CITY IS.
08:55:31PM WEST SIDE OF TOWN CAN BENEFIT.
08:55:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY COULD.
08:55:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE 27 ACRES THERE THAT WE NEED TO DO
08:55:41PM SOMETHING WITH.
08:55:42PM WE CAN BUILD A BEAUTIFUL SOMETHING, SOMETHING.
08:55:45PM I AM.
08:55:45PM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO YOUR IDEA, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE
08:55:49PM INCLUSIVE.
08:55:50PM NOT JUST BLACK ARTISTS BUT HISPANIC ARTISTS, WOMEN, IN
08:55:54PM GENERAL, WE HAVE VERY TALENTED PEOPLE AND THEY WERE
08:55:58PM SHOWCASED RECENTLY AT THE ARTS MUSEUM CALLED SKY SOMETHING.
08:56:03PM JUST LOCAL A TESTS WHO -- WHO WERE ABLE TO PUT THEIR WORK IN
08:56:07PM -- YOU KNOW, THAT BEAUTIFUL SPACE.
08:56:09PM BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT.
08:56:11PM AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE INCLUSIVE BECAUSE
08:56:16PM FALLS IN LINE WITH WHO WE ARE AS A CITY.
08:56:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE TALKING OF HIS PROJECT.
08:56:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE SAID BLACKS IN EAST TAMPA.
08:56:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE TALK BECOME THAT --
08:56:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOME PLACE THIS IS HISTORICALLY -- SO
08:56:28PM CONNECTED.
08:56:29PM AND -- I AM SORRY -- SO PLACE THAT IS SO HISTORICALLY
08:56:34PM CORRECTED.
08:56:34PM AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR ECONOMIC CATALYST TO BE ABLE TO
08:56:38PM SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT AND RETAIL AND -- AND --
08:56:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 20 ACRES IN WEST COMPANY THAT FOOT THAT
08:56:45PM BILL IN AT THAT BLACK COMMUNITY.
08:56:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DIFFERENT PROJECTS DIFFERENT PLACES.
08:56:50PM RIGHT PROJECT, RIGHT PLACE.
08:56:52PM THIS STANDS ON ITS OWN BECAUSE NOT WELFARE, AN ECONOMIC
08:56:57PM CATALYST.
08:56:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
08:57:00PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:57:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT ARE WE VOTING FOR AGAIN.
08:57:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR THE $500,000.
08:57:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: $5,000 FOR ART SPACE.
08:57:08PM ALAMEDA MONEY FROM THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
08:57:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:57:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:57:13PM OPPOSED?
08:57:16PM DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:57:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
08:57:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
08:57:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
08:57:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
08:57:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
08:57:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:57:26PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES.
08:57:29PM [INAUDIBLE]
08:57:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL CAUTION COUNCIL -- YES, $4.5
08:57:34PM MILLION THAT YOU MENTIONED.
08:57:35PM BUT LET'S WAIT FOR THAT CIT RENEWAL VOTE IN NOVEMBER.
08:57:39PM BE CAREFUL UNTIL THEN.
08:57:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T DISAGREE, BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU
08:57:44PM KNOW, THERE IS -- I MEAN, IF WE HAVE THE -- IF WE HAVE THE
08:57:48PM AVAILABLE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE TO GO INTO THIS, MOST
08:57:54PM LIKELY WE HAVE MORE ELSEWHERE.
08:57:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY --
08:57:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, MA'AM.
08:58:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DIDN'T HEAR HER, WHAT SHE SAID.
08:58:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:58:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: A GENERAL COMMENT OF THE GENERAL FUND
08:58:11PM BALANCE.
08:58:11PM I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO RESTORE IT BACK TO
08:58:16PM WHERE IT WAS.
08:58:16PM IN 2010 IT WAS $150 MILLION IN 2010.
08:58:22PM IT WAS RATED AND WE ARE BACK AT $1 50 MILLION.
08:58:26PM THE PROBLEM IS MR. ROGERO WILL SAY THIS ALSO, THE BASIC
08:58:32PM EXPECTATION OF THE -- OF THE -- OF THE RATING AGENCIES IS
08:58:36PM THAT WE KEEP 20%.
08:58:37PM BUT WE HAD CONSISTENT -- WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY AT A
08:58:43PM HIGHER LEVEL.
08:58:44PM AND WE DID THAT BECAUSE THE -- BECAUSE WE NEED A RAINY DAY
08:58:48PM FUND.
08:58:48PM THE RAINY DAY FUND IS 3%.
08:58:51PM AND THAT IS NOT ENOUGH.
08:58:53PM WE CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE A MONTH ON THAT PROBABLY.
08:58:57PM AND SO IF -- WITH IF WE -- A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
08:59:01PM PREDICTING A PRESESSION FOR A LONG TIME.
08:59:03PM THE ECONOMY DEFINITELY IS SLOWING DOWN IN ANTICIPATION OF
08:59:07PM THE ELECTION.
08:59:07PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT THE ELECTION, IF WE HIT A
08:59:11PM -- IF WE HIT A DOWN ECONOMY, SOME -- WE WILL HAVE A
08:59:15PM SITUATION SIMILAR FOR WHAT WE HAD A FEW YEARS AGO AND WE
08:59:19PM COULD END UP HAVING A SHORTFALL OF REVENUES.
08:59:22PM SEVERAL DEVELOPERS HAVE TOLD ME THEY ARE GOING BACK AND
08:59:24PM RENEGOTIATING WITH THE TAX APPRAISER TO TRY TO LOWER THE
08:59:29PM EVALUATION OF THEIR BUSINESSES WHICH WILL LOWER OUR INCOME
08:59:32PM AS WELL.
08:59:32PM AND THAT -- AND THE 20%.
08:59:34PM WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT TOUCH BECAUSE THE BOND RATINGS CANS
08:59:39PM WILL GO DO YOU KNOW.
08:59:40PM THE ONLY THING IS 3%.
08:59:42PM EXPECTATION WE STAYED UP AT A HIGHER LEVEL OF 20%.
08:59:46PM THE EXPECTATION WE WILL KEEP CONSISTENCY THERE.
08:59:49PM I WILL CAUTION US FROM DIPPING INTO THAT ANYMORE.
08:59:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR -- THANK YOU,
08:59:55PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:59:55PM YOUR QUITE RIGHT.
08:59:56PM AND IF I CAN JUST TAKE US BACK A LITTLE BIT AND COUNCILMAN
09:00:02PM CARLSON REFERENCED THIS SOME OF THIS AS DID COUNCILWOMAN
09:00:06PM HURTAK.
09:00:06PM YOU KNOW AS WE GO FORWARD, OUR MANTRA IS REASONABLE BUT
09:00:10PM CONSERVATIVE.
09:00:10PM THAT IS WHAT THESE PROJECTIONS ARE AND THE SAME LAST YEAR,
09:00:14PM AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS QUITE RIGHT.
09:00:16PM WE HAD A BETTER YEAR THAN ANTICIPATED, SO WE HAD A LARGER
09:00:20PM FUND BALANCE.
09:00:21PM AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT $5 MILLION.
09:00:24PM FURTHER TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S COMMENT, EVEN THOUGH OUR
09:00:28PM POLICY IS 20%, AND IT IS A VERY GOOD POLICY, AS HE SAID, WE
09:00:33PM HAVE BEEN SO CONSISTENTLY ABOVE THAT POLICY.
09:00:36PM THERE IS AN EX-MECHANICTATION ON THE PART OF THE MARKET AND
09:00:39PM THE RATING AGENCIES THAT WE MAINTAIN THE LEVEL WE HAVE
09:00:43PM REGARDLESS OF WHAT OUR POLICY IS.
09:00:46PM SO WHEN WE END A YEAR LESS THAN 23 SIEWART THERE IS A RISK
09:00:57PM INVOLVED IN THAT AND MY JOB TO TELL YOU OF THE POTENTIAL
09:00:59PM RISK.
09:01:00PM IF OUR REASONABLE AND CONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS WE COME
09:01:04PM SHORTER THAN ANTICIPATED.
09:01:05PM THERE IS LIKELY TO BE AN ADVERSE EFFECT FROM A CREDIT RATING
09:01:09PM PERSPECTIVE.
09:01:09PM IF WE COME IN GREATER AS WE DID THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE IN
09:01:13PM OTHER YEARS, WELL, THAT IS FANTASTIC.
09:01:16PM THEN -- AND I BELIEVE WE ARE COMING BACK -- COUNCILWOMAN
09:01:19PM HURTAK'S MOTION.
09:01:19PM I BELIEVE WE ARE COMING BACK IN NOVEMBER TO TALK ABOUT THE
09:01:23PM FUND BALANCE AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE INTRICACIES AND
09:01:29PM PHILOSOPHIES GOING FORWARD IN APPROPRIATING THAT FUND
09:01:35PM BALANCE.
09:01:36PM MY JOB TO LET YOU KNOW THERE IS A RISK OF SIGNIFICANTLY
09:01:39PM REDUCING THE FUND BALANCE BELOW 23%.
09:01:42PM THANK YOU.
09:01:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:01:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. ROGERO, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IF I MAY.
09:01:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
09:01:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR -- I SHOULD HAVE WROTE DOWN WHAT I WAS
09:01:53PM GOING TO SAY.
09:01:54PM FIRST -- I THINK I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT STATION 24.
09:01:58PM WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET -- REMIND ME WHAT IS ON THE AMONG FOR
09:02:02PM THAT THIS YEAR.
09:02:03PM IS THAT DESIGN?
09:02:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF YOU JUST GIVE ME ONE MOMENT.
09:02:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET -- BUDGET.
09:02:10PM THERE IS MONEY FROM PREVIOUS BUDGETS.
09:02:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
09:02:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE MONEY FROM PREVIOUS BUDGETS.
09:02:16PM THE ONLY MONEY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR IN CAPITAL
09:02:19PM IS $450,000 FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF FIRE STATION -- I BELIEVE
09:02:22PM IT IS 9.
09:02:23PM BUT THE MONEY IS THERE.
09:02:25PM THE PROBLEM IS LIKE -- LIKE THE PRESIDENT SAID, WE ARE NOT
09:02:30PM GETTING IT DONE.
09:02:31PM WE ALLOCATED THE MONEY, AND IT IS JUST -- IT HAVEN'T BEEN
09:02:35PM THE PRIORITY THAT WE WANT IT TO BE.
09:02:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:02:38PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:02:39PM MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, SIR, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OR
09:02:44PM SOMETHING COMING BACK ON THE MOTION WE MADE HERE AT CITY
09:02:47PM COUNCIL ON BONDS FOR STATION 24.
09:02:53PM WHEN IS THAT COMING BACK TO US. IS THAT IN NOVEMBER?
09:02:57PM IF YOU KNOW.
09:02:57PM IF YOU DON'T KNOW, COME BACK TO ME.
09:02:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO.
09:03:00PM IF I CAN BEGIN WITH THIS.
09:03:02PM THIS IS FROM OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION.
09:03:05PM YOU SEE FIRE STATION 24.
09:03:06PM AND FISCAL YEAR 2025.
09:03:09PM NOT QUITE 1.2 MILLION ANTICIPATED.
09:03:13PM '26-'27 OF 20 MILLION.
09:03:17PM ANTICIPATED AS BEING A PART OF THE LONG AD VALOREM BOND.
09:03:24PM WE ANTICIPATE COMING TO YOU FOR THE FIRST OF YEAR ON THAT.
09:03:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: I REMEMBER REMOTIONED ON THIS.
09:03:30PM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
09:03:31PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAKE MOTIONS ON THIS.
09:03:33PM I PROBABLY WILL DO IT ON THURSDAY.
09:03:35PM BUT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A FORMAL MOTION.
09:03:38PM NUMBER ONE, JUST REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY
09:03:42PM STAKEHOLDERS ON THE CIP AND I WILL THINK OF HOW THIS MAKE
09:03:46PM THAT, ETC.
09:03:46PM LOOK, WE ARE TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM THE ELECTION.
09:03:49PM WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.
09:03:50PM AND WE HAVE THE CIT VOTE IF WE DON'T PASS THIS, WE ARE ALL
09:03:58PM ON A LOT OF TROUBLE.
09:04:00PM AND ISSUES WITH TRANSPORTATION, PARKS, PUBLIC SAFETY, ETC.
09:04:04PM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ALL HANDS ON DECK.
09:04:08PM I REACHED OUT TO OUR WONDERFUL MAJOR IN TEMPLE TERRACE, ANDY
09:04:12PM ROSS AND REACHING OUT TO FOLKS AT DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS TO
09:04:14PM MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ENGAGED ON THIS ISSUE BECAUSE SO
09:04:17PM VERY IMPORTANT.
09:04:18PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT THAT ISSUE WAS COMING
09:04:23PM BACK US TO FOR THE ADDITIONAL AS YOU HIGHLIGHTED $20 MILLION
09:04:25PM FOR STATION 24 BECAUSE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO GET THAT DONE.
09:04:32PM MY HOPES FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WAS THREE THINGS.
09:04:35PM NUMBER ONE, THAT WE GET DONE WITH 24 WITHIN THE NEXT -- I
09:04:39PM WILL ASK CHIEF TRIPP.
09:04:40PM I HAVE ASKED CHIEF TRIPP ABOUT THAT AND WE TALKED OF A
09:04:43PM CERTAIN TIME FRAME, A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF THAT WE MAY BE
09:04:46PM THAT WE GET LAND FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE.
09:04:50PM GET THAT FUNDED.
09:04:51PM AND MAKE REAL PROGRESS ON DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THE STATION
09:04:55PM THERE.
09:04:55PM SOME SORT OF REAL PROGRESS THERE.
09:04:57PM I DO HAVE A QUESTION, IF I MAY, FOR CHIEF TRIPP SITTING
09:05:01PM THERE SORE PATIENTLY.
09:05:03PM THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
09:05:06PM I APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.
09:05:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
09:05:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: HI, MA'AM.
09:05:17PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
09:05:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD EVENING.
09:05:22PM QUESTION FOR YOU.
09:05:23PM I ASKED YOU -- YOU HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY.
09:05:26PM I KNOW LAST TIME I ASKED BUT THE CAD SYSTEM.
09:05:28PM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DID YOU SAY THAT WAS GOING TO BE
09:05:32PM ACCOMPLISHED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, OR WAS I WRONG IN THAT
09:05:35PM REGARD TRIM TRIPP AS FOR IMPLEMENTING IT, YES, YOU ARE
09:05:39PM WRONG.
09:05:39PM WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COMPANY IN NEXT RIGHT NOW.
09:05:42PM SO I AM HOPING TO START IMPLEMENT NATION BY THE END OF THE
09:05:46PM YEAR.
09:05:46PM THAT IS MY HOPE.
09:05:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
09:05:48PM DO YOU NEED ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THAT FROM THIS YEAR'S
09:05:53PM BUDGET?
09:05:54PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I THINK IT IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
09:05:55PM I THINK IT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR THE BUDGET.
09:05:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
09:05:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WAS '24 MONEY TRIM TRIPP '24 MONEY.
09:06:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO FURTHER.
09:06:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:06:07PM AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:06:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK ON THE CIT, BUT
09:06:13PM SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
09:06:14PM I AM NOT ONE TO GIVE TAXPAYERS MONEY FOR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.
09:06:18PM NEVER HAVE BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE.
09:06:19PM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WORDING ON HOW IT IS GOING TO
09:06:24PM BE PUT ON THE BALLOT.
09:06:27PM I DON'T KNOW.
09:06:28PM NO ONE KNOWS.
09:06:31PM AND IT BETTER BE EXPLAINED TO THE TAXPAYERS WHAT THEY ARE
09:06:34PM VOTING FOR A AND WHAT WE ARE SPENDING OUR MONEY AT.
09:06:37PM UP DIDN'T VOTE IT FOR FIRST TIME.
09:06:39PM AND I WOULD DOUBT IF I WILL VOTE FOR IT THE SECOND TIME.
09:06:42PM AND THE REASON IS VERY SIMPLE, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT
09:06:48PM YOU WANT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND YET WE ARE GIVING MOST
09:06:51PM OF IT AWAY.
09:06:52PM AND I DON'T MIND SAYING THAT DIRECTLY TO ANYONE.
09:06:57PM I AM NOT DIFFERENT THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
09:07:02PM BUT THE TAXPAYERS MONEY BELONGS TO THE TAXPAYERS.
09:07:06PM NOT TO ME TO GIVE AWAY.
09:07:07PM WHEN THINGS WERE DONE, I WOULD IMAGINE WE GIVE AWAY A GOOD
09:07:14PM $300 MILLION OR $400 MILLION AND I WILL HAVE DETAILED HOW TO
09:07:18PM FIGURE IT OUT AND HOW IT CAME UP.
09:07:21PM BUT WE GAVE IT ALL AWAY.
09:07:22PM SOMETHING THAT WAS TURNED DOWN, ONE, WAS VALUED MORE THAN
09:07:27PM 365 MILLION LAST YEAR AND THE TOTAL VALUE OF THAT ASSET IS
09:07:31PM AT LEAST $6 BILLION.
09:07:33PM I AM NOT HERE TO SUPPORT ANYONE THAT HAS THE CAPITAL SUPPORT
09:07:36PM THEM 70s.
09:07:37PM THAT'S ALL.
09:07:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:07:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:07:41PM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE CIT BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO HELP
09:07:45PM BUILD MORE FIRE STATIONS AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE NEED THAT.
09:07:49PM CHIEF TRIPP, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
09:07:53PM I KNOW WE HAVE -- WE -- WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THIS WEEK'S
09:07:59PM AGENDA FOR THE PUMPS -- THE FIRE TRUCKS THAT HAVE -- YES.
09:08:05PM SO THAT -- THAT IS FROM FY '24 MONEY OBVIOUSLY.
09:08:09PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES.
09:08:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN FY '25.
09:08:13PM WHAT YOU HAVE PLANNED TO PURCHASE.
09:08:19PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I BELIEVE I PUT IN FOR THE CIT.
09:08:21PM WE WERE GETTING TWO AN.
09:08:24PM AN AN ADDITIONAL THREE.
09:08:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WITH THAT, ONE LADDER TRUCK.
09:08:31PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: A LADDER TRUCK.
09:08:33PM COUPLE MORE CARS AND A COUPLE MORE ENGINES.
09:08:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE GOOD WITH THAT.
09:08:37PM THAT IS A GOOD SPOT TO BE IN.
09:08:40PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES.
09:08:40PM I PUT IT IN THE PLAN EVERY OTHER YEAR BECAUSE I EXPLAINED
09:08:44PM ONE, THE LEAD TIME TO GET THE PURCHASE UP TO 48 MONTHS.
09:08:48PM WE HAVE KIND OF A ROTATION REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE GOING ON
09:08:58PM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT -- SAME
09:09:01PM AMOUNT OF FIRE FIGHTERS FOR FY '25 THAT YOU HAVE FOR '24.
09:09:05PM THE SAME FTEs.
09:09:07PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I DID PUT IN FOR A SAFER GRANT FOR THE 18
09:09:10PM POSITIONS.
09:09:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THERE IS NOT FUNDING FOR
09:09:13PM THAT IF WE DON'T RECEIVE THE POSITIONS OR IF WE DON'T
09:09:15PM RECEIVE THE GRANT.
09:09:16PM HOW LONG WILL THE GRANT LAST?
09:09:21PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: KIND OF LIKE PRORATED AND GOES OVER THREE
09:09:24PM YEARS.
09:09:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE WE PREPARED AS A CITY IF WE GET THAT
09:09:29PM GRANT TO PAY FOR -- BECAUSE IF IT IS LIKE THE POLICE GRANT,
09:09:33PM IT STARTS, 75%.
09:09:35PM NOT 100%.
09:09:36PM ARE WE PREPARED FOR THAT 25% IF WE -- IF WE WIN THE GRANT?
09:09:43PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES.
09:09:44PM THE FIRST YEAR -- 100% AND BREAKS DOWN FROM THERE.
09:09:47PM HOW DOES -- BECAUSE I THINK THE FIRST YEAR IS LIKE THE 100%
09:09:52PM AND EVERY YEAR FOR THE THREE YEARS, LIKE ANOTHER 75 AND 50
09:09:56PM AND THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE AFTER THE THIRD YEAR.
09:09:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE FORECASTED THE ANTICIPATED EXPENSE.
09:10:04PM THE ONLY UNCERTAINTY IS THE ONLY YEAR THAT CITY COUNCIL
09:10:08PM APPROPRIATES.
09:10:09PM SO IS THE ENSUING INCREASE OF COST AND IN THE SUCCESSIVE
09:10:13PM YEARS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE DO THE
09:10:17PM BUDGET PROCESS.
09:10:18PM DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM?
09:10:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WE ARE PREPARED TO FUND WHATEVER IS
09:10:22PM NECESSARY IN THIS YEAR IF WE WIN THOSE 18?
09:10:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
09:10:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL I WANT TO KNOW.
09:10:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:10:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SEE WE HAD TO MAKE YOU SITTING OUT THERE
09:10:37PM WORTH WHERE YOU ARE WHILE WHILE YOU WERE THERE CAPTIVE TRIM
09:10:40PM TRIPP OKAY.
09:10:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CURIOUS ABOUT THE CAD SYSTEM.
09:10:47PM SINS ELECTED.
09:10:48PM WHY IT WAS IT TAKING SO LONG.
09:10:50PM YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.
09:10:52PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: HONESTLY, I WISH YOU KNEW.
09:10:55PM JUST THE PROCESS.
09:10:56PM IT HAS BEEN TAKING A LONG TIME.
09:10:57PM WE -- WE HAD DEMOS LAST YEAR AND JUST MEETING WITH THE
09:11:03PM DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
09:11:04PM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WE HAD BETWEEN THE FOUR VENDORS.
09:11:07PM BROKE IT DOWN TO TWO.
09:11:08PM ONE OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN WAS THE SAME
09:11:12PM THING THAT HAPPENED WITH THE LAST CAD PRIOR TO ME GETTING IN
09:11:15PM THIS POSITION THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE SUITABLE FOR TAMPA
09:11:18PM FIRE RESCUE AS WELL THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:11:20PM SO THE COMPANY WE HAVE NOW IS A KNOWN RESPECTABLE COMPANY
09:11:25PM AND I THINK THEY WILL DO GOOD FOR TAMPA.
09:11:28PM WE WILL SEE -- ONCE WE GET THIS NEXT PART GOING, I THINK IT
09:11:32PM WILL BE SMOOTH SAILING FROM THERE
09:11:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE TIMELINE OF FULL
09:11:37PM IMPLEMENTATION WHEN YOU HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE?
09:11:40PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: LIKE I SAID, MY PLAN -- HOPEFULLY GET THE
09:11:44PM NEXT.
09:11:44PM SHOULD BE ON YOU GUYS' DESK BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND
09:11:48PM START IMPLEMENTATION BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
09:11:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A 12 MONTH.
09:11:53PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
09:11:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOING A LONG WAY AND CONCERN OF RESPONSE
09:11:58PM TIME.
09:11:58PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: IT WILL HELP OUT.
09:11:59PM BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN AS I HAVE BEEN STATING FOR THE LAST THREE
09:12:02PM YEARS, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE IS OUTDATED.
09:12:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SAW IT.
09:12:08PM EXACTLY.
09:12:09PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: WE ARE DEALING OFF OF 19 1970s WITH SOME OF
09:12:13PM OUR RESPONSE.
09:12:14PM ONCE THIS GETS IMPLEMENTED, RESPOND UNITS AND HELP DECREASE
09:12:19PM THE USAGE FOR OUR ENGINES RESPONDING FOR CALLS WHEN THEY
09:12:23PM DON'T NEED THROB.
09:12:24PM AND BASICALLY USE A LOT OF RESCUE SO AS WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO
09:12:28PM UTILIZE THE ENGINES
09:12:30PM SO ALL OF THAT WILL BE ADJUSTED.
09:12:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ADDITIONAL 18 FTEs YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
09:12:37PM WE ARE RUNNING IN A DEFICIT THAT WE NEED THOSE 18 PEOPLE.
09:12:40PM BE WHAT STATIONS ARE WE SHORT THAT YOU HAVE TO ADD FTEs --
09:12:46PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: AS I HAVE BEEN SAYING THE MELD CAL CALLS,
09:12:49PM 90,000, 80,000 MEDICAL.
09:12:51PM BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS, WE NEED MORE TRANSPORT UNITS.
09:12:55PM FIVE STATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE TRANSPORT UNITS.
09:12:58PM AND THOSE ARE SIMILAR TO HEAT.
09:13:00PM THE TWO HE WILL IS TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL FIVE TRANSPORT
09:13:04PM UNITS.
09:13:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED BE PREPARED -- THE NEXT COUNCIL
09:13:08PM WILL BE ABLE TO PREPARE ONCE THAT GRANT STARTS STEP DOWN.
09:13:11PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES.
09:13:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THOSE 18 ARE NEEDS, NOT WANTS.
09:13:14PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THOSE ARE NEEDS.
09:13:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:19PM AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR
09:13:23PM THE MILLAGE RATE.
09:13:27PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED FROM
09:13:30PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:13:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOMEBODY IN THE BACK THAT WANTS TO SPEAK?
09:13:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOING BY THE SCRIPT TO MAKE SURE WE
09:13:37PM DO EVERYTHING.
09:13:38PM PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAD IT.
09:13:41PM I AM JUST GOING BY THE SCRIPT.
09:13:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS LONG GONE.
09:13:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANTED TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS.
09:13:49PM DOES COUNCIL NEED A BREAK OR CITY STAFF?
09:13:53PM I AM JUST GOING BY THE SCRIPT.
09:13:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU NEED A BREAK, MR. CHAIR?
09:13:58PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT
09:14:02PM THE MILLAGE RATE OF 6. 076 AND MORE, TO TENTATIVELY ADOPT
09:14:08PM THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE OF 6.2076 MILLS WHICH IS 4.00 MORE
09:14:14PM THAN THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE OF 59169 MILLS FOR PROPERTIES, TAX
09:14:21PM FUNDS WHICH HAVE USED TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING
09:14:24PM BUDGET AND THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FUNDS OF THE
09:14:28PM CITY OF TAMPA.
09:14:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
09:14:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
09:14:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I'M SORRY.
09:14:33PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
09:14:36PM SLIGHT CORRECTION, 5.69691.
09:14:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 5.6916.
09:14:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
09:14:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
09:14:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. ROGERO.
09:14:57PM I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION EVERY YEAR, BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF
09:15:01PM THE PUBLIC TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS -- IF YOU READ THIS THE
09:15:04PM WRONG WAY, IT -- SOMEBODY CAN TAKE IT THE WRONG -- WHAT THIS
09:15:08PM MEANS IS THAT -- THAT THE -- THE 6.2076, THAT IS THE SAME
09:15:15PM MILLAGE RATE AS LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE AND THE YEAR
09:15:18PM BEFORE.
09:15:19PM SO WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE MILLAGE RATE.
09:15:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU ARE NOT.
09:15:22PM CARLSON CHARLOTTE IS IT BASED ON THE 4% -- THE ESTIMATE OF
09:15:30PM THE INCREASE IN THE SRAM EWE OF PROPERTY.
09:15:31PM IF YOUR PROPERTY VALUE WENT UP, YOU MAY PAY MORE.
09:15:34PM SOME PROPERTIES MAY GO DOWN.
09:15:36PM BUT WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE TAX RATE.
09:15:39PM THE ONLY REASON IT WOULD CHANGE IF YOUR PROPERTY VALUE WOULD
09:15:43PM CHANGE.
09:15:43PM >> CORRECT.
09:15:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WANT TO MAKE SURE.
09:15:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT INCREASING
09:15:50PM IT.
09:15:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU ARE NOT.
09:15:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:15:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
09:15:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:15:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:15:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:15:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:15:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
09:16:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:16:02PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:16:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:16:06PM FINANCE CHAIR, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:16:09PM READ THE ORDINANCE.
09:16:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
09:16:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR ITEM NUMBER 2 ON THE AGENDA, FIRST
09:16:16PM READING.
09:16:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 13.
09:16:18PM READING THE ORDINANCE --
09:16:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO WE ARE CLEAR.
09:16:22PM ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC, ITEM NUMBER 2
09:16:26PM ON THE AGENDA, THE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
09:16:28PM READING CONSIDERATION.
09:16:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 13 ON THE CHART.
09:16:31PM BUT NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA.
09:16:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM READING THE RIGHT ONE?
09:16:36PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
09:16:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:16:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ORDINANCE ADOPTING A BUDGET OF THE CITY
09:16:40PM OF TAMPA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2024 AND
09:16:44PM SENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2025 PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY OF -- AS
09:16:51PM PROVIDED FOR A TAX ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF
09:16:55PM TAMPA AND FIXING THE MILLAGE RATE WITHIN THE CITY.
09:16:57PM MAKING APPROPRIATION INFORMATION ACCORDANCE WITH THE
09:17:00PM PROVISIONS OF SAID BUDGET AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
09:17:03PM MAYOR AND CITY CLERK AGGRAVATED THE PROPER AUTHORITY OF THE
09:17:06PM CITY OF TAMPA TO CERTIFY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
09:17:09PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA.
09:17:10PM THE MILLAGE TO BE LEVY FOR 2025 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:17:16PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:17:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:17:20PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:17:23PM ROLL CALL.
09:17:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
09:17:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
09:17:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:17:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:17:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:17:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:17:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:17:32PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:17:39PM ADOPTION OF THE MILLAGE RATE AND SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
09:17:42PM OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE AN ADOPTION OF THE CAPITAL
09:17:44PM IMPROVEMENT BUDGET AND PROGRESS LOUIS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025
09:17:49PM THROUGH FISCAL 2029 WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2024 AT
09:17:55PM 5:01 P.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS THIRD FLORIDA, TAMPA,
09:18:02PM FLORIDA, 33602.
09:18:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
09:18:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
09:18:09PM THAT FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:18:10PM SECONDED FROM VIERA.
09:18:13PM WAIT, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA, MR. SHELBY, INFORMATION REPORT.
09:18:18PM THAT APPROPRIATE ORDER?
09:18:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT AN ERROR.
09:18:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
09:18:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
09:18:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
09:18:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:18:33PM OPPOSED?
09:18:34PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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