TAMPA CITY COUNCIL BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 2024, 5:01 P.M.

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05:04:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS CITY OF TAMPA
PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER FOR SEPTEMBER 3, 2024.
ROLL CALL.
05:04:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
05:04:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
05:04:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
05:04:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
05:04:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
ALL RIGHT.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FY
'25 MILLAGE RATE, BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR THE
CITY OF COUNCIL?
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE FINANCE CHAIR READ THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING STATEMENT.
05:05:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
B 2025-2.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED --
05:05:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, NO.
NO, THAT IS --
05:05:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU GAVE ME SOMETHING I DIDN'T HAVE.
CHAIRMAN, THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA FISCAL YEAR BUDGET 2025 BUDGET.
PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE IS 6.2076 MILLS WHICH IS 4% -- 4.00
MORE THAN THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE OF 5.619 MILLS.
PROPERTY TAX FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING
BUDGET AND THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY.
THE GENERAL FUND INCLUDES FIRE RESCUE AND POLICE, HUMAN
RESOURCES, PARKS AND RECREATION.
05:06:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT IS NOT A MOTION.
HE JUST HAS TO READ THE STATEMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:06:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU ARE WELCOME.
05:06:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AT THIS TIME, MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU
PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR?
05:06:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD --
[INAUDIBLE]
05:06:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S COMING.
05:06:47PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WHILE THEY ARE BRINGING IT UP --
[NOT SPEAKING IN MIC]
05:07:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THE TWO WORKSHOPS WE HAVE -- TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, WE
WILL GIVE YOU A PROMPT FOLLOW-UP.
THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE BRIEF AND IT IS REALLY KIND OF A
REFRESHER.
NOTHING REALLY NEW.
AND AGAIN TO GET EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED INCLUDING THE PUBLIC
AS TO THE FORMATION OF THE FISCAL '25 BUDGET.
05:07:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, THE PRESENTATION.
05:07:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND HERE IT IS AGAIN, THE NET 2025 BUDGET IS JUST A LITTLE
OVER $1.8 BILLION, AND THAT, ITSELF, IS A LITTLE OVER 3%
FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
YOU SEE OUR BREAKOUT OF THE FUNDS AND THE TWO LARGEST
COMPONENTS WE TALK ABOUT QUITE OFTEN, THE ENTERPRISE FUND
AND THE GENERAL FUND WHICH, AS USUAL, MAKES UP THREE
QUARTERS OF THE CITY'S TOTAL BUDGET.
IN THE NEXT BUDGET, WE BREAK IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER NEAR THOSE
PARTICULAR FUNDS.
GENERAL FUND ON THE LEFT.
YOU SEE 60% OF THE BUDGET GOING TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
THAT IS POLICE, FIRE AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.
THESE ARE THE SUPPORT AGENCIES THAT KEEP THE CITY RUNNING
BEHIND THE SCENES THAT INCLUDES MY SHOP, TECHNOLOGY AND
INNOVATION, HUMAN RESOURCES, PURCHASING, AND NEIGHBORHOOD
AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
PARDON ME.
OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, WHICH INCLUDES THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
ON THE RIGHT, THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT ARE RUN AS A
BUSINESS.
THEY ARE EXPECTED TO MAKE WHAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WOULD
BE A PROFIT.
OF COURSE ANYTHING THAT THEY MAKE IS FUNNELED BACK INTO THE
SYSTEM FOR FUTURE NEEDS OR IMPROVEMENTS.
AND, AGAIN, YOU SEE THE BIG TICKETS, THE WASTEWATER, THE
WATER DEPARTMENT, THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT AND PARKING.
TWO IMPORTANT DRIVERS THAT WE WANT TO EMPHASIZE REGARDING
OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE ON THE LEFT.
AS IT TYPICAL EACH AND EVERY YEAR, PROPERTY TAXES BY
THEMSELVES WILL NOT PAY FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AGAIN, THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE ABOUT HALF OF THE
ENTIRE GENERAL FUND.
ON THE RIGHT, THE IMPACT OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCIES OR CRAs.
YOU SEE NEARLY ONE FIFTH OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE REQUIRED
TO BE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CRAs.
NEXT YEAR, AS YOU SEE, THIS WILL BE JUST UNDER $54 MILLION.
AN INCREASE OF NEARLY 6% FROM THE CURRENT YEAR.
SO THE PROPERTY TAXES AVAILABLE ARE EVEN TIGHTER THAN THE
INITIAL GLANCE WOULD LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE.
WE HAVE 354.
A LITTLE OVER $354 MILLION.
BUT WE NET $300 MILLION.
AND SPEAKING OF TYPE, COUNSEL WILL RECALL THAT THE INCREASE
IN PROPERTY VALUES WAS ABOUT HALF OF LAST YEAR -- OR I
SHOULD SAY THE CURRENT YEAR.
THE CURRENT YEAR WE ENJOYED 12% INCREASE IN AD VALOREM
VALUES.
THIS YEAR 6%.
AS WE ENTER THIS BUDGET PROCESS AND WE, OF COURSE, TALKED
THIS BEFORE, WE MADE A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
WE THOUGHT OF 8%.
SO WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS CAME IN, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO CUT
$6 MILLION IN GENERAL FUNDING RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
FROM A GENERAL FUND PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS A PRETTY TIGHT
YEAR.
CONTINUING WITH THE GENERAL FUND, HERE IS OUR GENERAL FUND
BALANCE, HISTORY AND ESTIMATES.
I WILL KEEP THANKING YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF YOUR UNASSIGNED
FUND BALANCE.
AS YOU KNOW AND AS WE WILL CONTINUE TO REFERENCE, IT IS A
SIGNIFICANT METRIC FOR THE RATING AGENCIES AND OF OUR
FINANCIAL HELP.
YOU SEE THAT OVER TIME, TAKING AWAY THE FEDERAL ASSISTANCE
IN FISCAL YEAR '20 AND '21.
WE HOVERED AROUND 23% OR 24%.
AS THE BUDGET INCREASES AND TYPICALLY INCREASES EVERY YEAR,
THE AMOUNT TO INCREASE THAT PERCENTAGE ALSO HAD TO INCREASE.
YOU SEE WE IDENTIFY THE PROJECTION THIS YEAR OF 23%.
AS WE CRAFTED THE BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE ALSO THINK
WE WILL END AT 23%.
AGAIN, AS SOME OF US HAVE TALKED, THESE ARE PROJECTIONS AND
WE WILL SEE HOW WE END UP IN THE CURRENT YEAR A COUPLE OF
MONTHS AFTER THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
VERY HAPPY TO NOTE THAT THE 23% IS WELL AHEAD OF OUR POLICY
FLOOR OF 20%.
THAT IS ABOUT $19 MILLION.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE AND I AM HAPPY TO SAY AGAIN, THIS
PAINTS A VERY, VERY NICE PICTURE OF FINANCIAL CONSISTENCY
AND HEALTH.
ESPECIALLY GIVEN SOME OF THE VULNERABILITIES WE HAVE
GEOGRAPHICALLY AND SOME OF THE VULNERABILITIES THAT REMAIN
ECONOMICALLY.
SO MY COMPLIMENTS TO COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR KEEPING THIS
CONSISTENT BALANCE.
THE SIX NEW POSITIONS BEING ADDED AND YET, WE WILL STILL
REMAIN OVER 50 POSITIONS LESS THAN THE HEIGHT OF OUR
POSITION COUNT DURING THE START OR THE BEGINNING OF THE
GREAT FINANCIAL CRISIS BACK IN 2007.
JUST UNDER 5,000 POSITIONS RIGHT NOW, AND, OF COURSE, I
THINK THE SIX POSITIONS THERE ARE PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
WE CONTINUE TO REFERENCE THIS AND HAVE CONTINUED TO
REFERENCE THIS SINCE THE GREAT FINANCIAL CRISIS BECAUSE OF
THE MASS EXODUS OF POSITIONS THAT THAT CRISIS FORCED.
OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, FISCAL YEAR '25-'29.
AGAIN JUST UNDER $1.7 BILLION.
IT REMAINS VERY CONSISTENT IN THAT IT IS CONTINUING THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PROJECTS IN THE CURRENT FIVE-YEAR
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
REMAINS NO SURPRISE, I THINK, THAT THE BIGGEST NUMBERS, THE
LARGEST NUMBERS ARE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT AS
WE CONTINUE THAT 3-ISH BILLION DOLLAR 20-YEAR PIPES PLAN.
AND A VERY SIGNIFICANT SAFETY INCREASE OR INVESTMENT WITH
FIRE RESCUE AS THE THIRD LARGEST CIP AT OVER $125 MILLION.
GETTING INTO MORE DETAIL WITH OUR MAJOR CITYWIDE PROJECTS,
BEGINNING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND
OUR PIPES PROGRAM.
AND YOU SEE THE SUBCOMPONENT OF THAT PIPES PROGRAM, THESE
ARE THE MAJOR SUBCOMPONENTS AND EACH OF THEM HAVE PROJECTS
WITHIN THEM.
AND INTO TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION AND SOLID WASTE AND
ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, I WILL HIGHLIGHT THE
COMPUTER-AIDED DISPATCH AT THE TOP FOR THE FIRE RESCUE
DEPARTMENT AND AT THE TOP OF THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, THE
RELOCATION FROM SPRUCE STREET TO 34th STREET.
AND THEN POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THE BOTTOM THERE, YOU SEE THE
ANNEX BUILDING THAT WE DISCUSSED ON HOWARD AVENUE CONTINUING
CITYWIDE AND CITY-WIDE BENEFITING PROJECTS, THE MANY
PROJECTS AND MOBILITY AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT.
AND DIVING INTO THE CIP PROJECTS BY DISTRICT, BEGINNING WITH
DISTRICT 4 AND THEIR PARKS AND FLOODING PROJECTS.
DISTRICT 5.
INCLUDES THE EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX.
DISTRICT 6.
AND, AGAIN, I WILL HIGHLIGHT AT THE TOP THERE, THE WEST
RIVERWALK PROJECT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ANNEX PROJECT.
I SHOULD HIGHLIGHT FIRE STATION NUMBER 9, RENOVATIONS ALSO.
AND, WELL, I GUESS I WILL HIGHLIGHT ALL OF THEM, RITA HOUSE,
SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL IMPROVEMENTS, ALSO.
DISTRICT 7, K-BAR RANCH PARK AND FIRE STATION NUMBER 24.
AND, AGAIN, WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND, AGAIN, IF WE CAN'T, WE WILL GET TO YOU VERY, VERY SOON.
FINAL STEP IN OUR FISCAL YEAR '25 YOU SEE ON SCREEN, THE
FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2024.
AN A REMINDER THAT THE BUDGET IS AVAILABLE IN GREAT DETAIL
-- VERY GOOD GREAT DETAIL, I MIGHT ADD -- I AM A LITTLE
BIASED.
IT IS A WONDERFUL DOCUMENT AND THAT THE LENGTH.
THAT CONCLUDES MY VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION, COUNCIL.
05:16:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AT THIS TIME -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A ROUND OF QUESTIONS
FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
DO YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS NOW?
05:16:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO SAY IF WE CAN HEAR FROM THE
PUBLIC BEFORE WE START --
05:16:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS IS THE PROCESS SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS.
NEXT WE WILL HEAR FROM HART.
JUSTIN WILLITS.
MR. WILLITS IS HERE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
OUR BUDGET ANALYSTS, MISS KOPESKY WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION.
FIRST ROUND OF COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND THEN OPEN
TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL ASK COUNCIL FROM REFRAIN FROM
MAKING ANY MOTIONS UNTIL WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
I HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS AND A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE.
I KNOW IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE MAKE MOTIONS.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM HART TO
MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, MR. ROGERO.
MR. WILLITS.
05:17:14PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
JUSTIN WILLITS, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING,
HART.
HERE TO PRESENT AS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL A PROPOSAL FOR ROUTE
1 FARE-FREE SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS.
05:17:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE IT PULLED UP ON OUR
SCREEN.
05:17:29PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
I WAS ASKED TO KEEP IT UNDER FIVE
MINUTES, SO THAT IS MY GOAL.
I HAVE PLENTY OF MORE INFORMATION I CAN SHARE REGARDING
TRANSIT, BUT I WILL RESPECT YOUR TIME.
SO THIS -- THIS ORIGINAL REQUEST -- SO ROUTE 1, THIS
ORIGINAL REQUEST CAME THROUGH TPO BOARD MEMBER THROUGH
JOHNNY WONG AND THE TPO TO GET INFORMATION AND THIS IS HOW
WE GOT GOING DOWN THIS PATH.
A MOTION SEVERAL WEEKS AGO TO HAVE ME COME PRESENT.
I HAVE ALL THESE THREE SLIDES.
WHY ROUTE 1?
COULD BE A GOOD INVESTMENT.
A FUTURE BRT CORRIDOR.
THE STREETCAR EXTENSION BOARDER.
THE TOP PRIORITIES ON THE TPO LIST.
APPROVED BY THE HART BOARD, THE.
THE TPO, THE ACTING TPO TMA FOR LACK OF DESCRIPTION.
SHYER RIDERSHIP ROUTE.
ROUTE 6, OVER 3,000 PASSENGERS A DAY.
AS I SAID A STRONG CONNECTION WITH THE STREETCAR.
WE HAD A SURVEY.
I WILL COME BACK A PRESENT THE STREETCAR RIDERSHIP.
HIGHEST TRANSFER TO THE STREETCAR IS ROUTE 1.
HIGHER SERVICE AND FASTER SPEEDS BECAUSE OF THE FARE-FREE
ASPECT.
REDUCE BOARDING TIMES FOR PEOPLE PAYING ELECTRONIC OR CASH.
A BIG BENEFIT TO THE OPERATION AND GENERALLY PART OF THE
COMPONENT IS A FREQUENT IMPROVEMENT.
RIGHT NOW AT 20 MINUTES MOST OF THE DAY.
IT WILL BUMP UP TO 15 AND THAT IS PART OF THE REQUEST.
LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON ROUTE 1.
WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF ROUTE 1, 32,000 RESIDENTS AND
56,000 JOBS.
WITHIN A HALF MILE THAT PRETTY MUCH DOUBLES TO $64,000
RESIDENT AND 100,000 JOBS.
18% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN THE CORRIDOR WITHIN A QUARTER
MILE DO NOT OWN A VEHICLE.
26% OF PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE POVERTY LINE.
64% ARE MINORITY.
AND 14% HAVE A DISABILITY.
AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS A PRETTY DIVERSE POPULATION THAT LIVES
ALONG THE ROUTE.
IT HAS PRETTY GOOD SERVICE NOW.
THIS PROPOSAL WILL MAKE IT JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND
OBVIOUSLY A LOT MORE ACCESSIBLE BEING FARE-FREE.
THE PROPOSAL IS TO BRING BACK THAT 15 MINUTES TOURING THE
WEEKDAY.
6 A.M. TO 6 P.M. BASICALLY 15 HOURS OF SERVICE.
THAT COST IS ABOUT $640,000 ANNUALLY.
AND THE PROPOSAL TO MAKE IT FREE FOR ALL DAYS OF THE WEEK
HAVE SEVEN DAYS OF A WEEK FOR A YEAR IS $840,000.
THAT IS BASED ON THE CURRENT RIDERSHIP OF $1.1 MILLION, TIME
THE AVERAGE FARE WE GET WHICH IS NOT $2 PER BOARDING A LOWER
RATE BECAUSE THE WAY WE FARE CAP.
I CAN ELABORATE, BUT I WILL SPARE THAT YOU.
THE TOTAL COST COMES TO $1.483,900.
ESTIMATED IMPACT IS OVER $300,000.
ANNUAL TRIPS AND IN ADDITION TO THE $1.4 MILLION WHICH IS
PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT THE STREETCAR IS PROJECTED TO HIT THIS
YEAR.
I WANTED TO KEEP IT QUICK.
SO I DID THAT.
AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:20:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU HAVE ABOUT $19 MILLION IN RESERVES, CORRECT?
05:20:46PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
OUR OPERATING RESERVE IS FOR 90 DAYS, SO
WHATEVER A QUARTER OF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET IS OF $110 MILLION,
I WOULD --
05:20:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I THINK IT IS ABOUT THAT.
05:21:00PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
YEAH.
05:21:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I THINK MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS THAT THERE
ARE OTHER ROUTES THAT ARE NOT FREE IN OUR CITY.
AND IT IS REALLY ABOUT EQUITY.
SO FOR US TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO
OTHER AREAS IN TAMPA THAT COULD USE FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
WE -- I BELIEVE BE DO ENOUGH.
05:21:20PM >> THIS WAS A PROPOSAL FROM COUNCIL, NOT BY HART, SO THAT I
WOULD DIRECT --
05:21:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I KNOW.
THIS IS OUR ONLY TIME TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:21:29PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
THE STREETCAR IS FREE.
05:21:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE STREETCAR IS FREE.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
THE STREETCAR IS FREE AND ACCESSIBLE -- PRIMARILY I RODE
HART THIS WEEKEND AND I RODE THE STREETCAR.
THE STREETCAR REALLY -- DOESN'T NECESSARILY COMPRISE WHAT
YOU CALL RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
TOURIST SYSTEM THAT IS FREE FOR A VERY SMALL PORTION OF
COMMUNITY.
MY CONCERN IS THAT EQUITY IS NOT THERE.
I KNOW HART HAS SOME CHALLENGES BUT FOR US TO FOCUS ON ONE
AREA AND NOT ADDRESS OTHERS IS JUST NOT SOMETHING I CAN
SUPPORT AT THIS TIME.
05:22:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
GENTLEMAN?
05:22:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THOUGHT -- ARE WE GOING TO DO QUESTIONS
NOW OR WAIT --
05:22:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT UNTIL AFTERWARDS.
ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO HIM OR WE CAN HAVE A --
05:22:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHO ASKED FOR IT TO COME TO NEWS IS.
05:22:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WAS ME.
05:22:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AFTER SOME THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION,
THAT'S MY --
05:22:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU DIDN'T VOTE TO BRING IT.
YOU SAID NO.
05:22:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I DID SAY NO.
SO I HAVE TO EXPRESS NOW IS THE TIME TO STATE WHY I AM NOT
SUPPORTING IT.
05:22:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
AND COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
05:23:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, I WILL ASK IF YOU CAN.
QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
HOLD YOUR DISCUSSION AND THE COMMENTS UNTIL THE TIME OF
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE DISCUSSION WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.
05:23:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I KNOW.
I APOLOGIZE.
05:23:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN, MIRANDA AND VIERA.
05:23:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WAS GOING TO DO COMMENTS.
05:23:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN, MIRANDA.
05:23:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GOT IT.
[LAUGHTER]
SO I SEE YOU SAY THAT 64% OF THE PEOPLE WITHIN THIS AREA ARE
MINORITY AND IT IS EQUITY ISSUE.
COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, HAS THIS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE HART BOARD?
THIS PROPOSAL?
05:23:43PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
NO, THIS REQUEST CAME FROM COUNCIL, I
BELIEVE, TWO WEEKS AGO.
I DON'T THINK WE EVEN HAD A BOARD MEETING SINCE THEN.
05:23:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAVE YOU GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT -- I KNOW
SOME OF THE ISSUE WITH THE SUN RUNNER AND THE FREE.
FOLKS HOMELESS HAVE USED IT AS REFUGE FREE ROUTES AND CAMP
OUT.
DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT OR ISSUES WITH IT?
IS IT GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC?
05:24:09PM >> THAT HAPPENS ON THE STREETCAR TODAY.
IT IS NOT A MAJOR ISSUE.
IT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT AND WE
TALKED ABOUT IT ON THE STAFF LEVEL.
05:24:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COMFORTABLE YOU CAN RESOLVE THAT ISSUE IN
YOUR ORGANIZATION?
05:24:25PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
YES, PLENTY OF MODELS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
THE RIDERSHIP OF THE STREETCAR.
MY SURVEY CHANGED MY PERCEPTION.
MINE WAS SIMILAR TO YOURS OF THE TOURIST ASPECT AND MUCH
MORE BALANCED THAN YOU WOULD THINK.
IT IS BECOMING MUCH MORE OF A LOCAL ASSET AND LOCALS ARE
USING MORE FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND JOB.
WE HAVE THAT DATA AND I WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK WHEN WE
CLEAN HAD UP.
05:24:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.
05:24:51PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
DIDN'T WANT TO LET THAT ONE SLIP.
05:24:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
05:24:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AGAIN, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I WAS
GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION THAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
SPOKE ABOUT.
AND THAT IS THE MASTER PLAN.
I KNOW THAT WAS QUICK THING FROM US TO ASK YOU TO COME BACK
AND GIVE US THAT INFORMATION.
AND IF YOU DECIDED -- OR DO YOU KNOW OF ANY MASTER PLAN YOU
HAVE TO IMPROVE THAT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE CALLED THE BUS
SYSTEM AND THE WHOLE AREA?
AND IS THE OTHER GOVERNMENT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAVE ANY
-- ANY PLAY IN THIS TO HELP OUT?
05:25:23PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
SO WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING AN OPERATIONS
ANALYSIS.
WE ARE ABOUT TO KICKOFF OFF TO LOOK AT THE BUS SYSTEM
POST-COVID BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN DEPTH.
THAT WILL REDEFINE WHAT THE SYSTEM IS LIKE FOR THE NEXT
THREE TO FIVE TO TEN YEARS.
05:25:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME TELL YOU WHY I ASK THOSE THINGS.
I COME FROM PUBLIC HOUSING I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY THAT.
ALL WE HAD WAS A BUS SYSTEM.
AND FEDS CAME IN AND MADE A DEAL WITH THE CITY.
I NEVER FORGET, HARRY ORR WAS RUNNING THE BUS SYSTEM AND BY
THE ELEVATOR HE SAID IN ANY MIND, THE DAY YOU TAKE $1 FROM
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU WILL TAKE SOMEBODY FROM WIMAUMA
FOR A QUARTER.
THAT IS WHAT HE TOLD ME.
AND YOU ARE SMILING IN A WAY INSIDE I CAN SEE, I CAN READ
THE LANGUAGE.
SO I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.
BUT THERE IS A LOT OF COST TO THAT.
SO WHAT I AM SAYING, THE BUS THAT I TOOK WAS NUMBER THREE
AND NUMBER FOUR.
THREE AND FOUR WENT FROM ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN, ALL THE WAY
TO YBOR CITY.
AND UP TO 15th STREET.
THREE KEPT GOING AND FOUR MADE A RIGHT AND THE HOUSING
PROJECT.
LEFT YOU OFF AT 26 AND 20th WHICH WAS RIGHT AT MY DOORSTEP.
WE TOOK THAT -- I IS IT TO 57 AND 58 AND TEENAGERS $500 TO
BUY A CAR.
THAT IS HOW THAT STARTED.
I SAY "TEENAGERS" PUT MY WAY BACK AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER
AND I THINK OF THE TEENAGERS TODAY I THINK TO MYSELF, MAYBE
THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.
NOBODY USING THE STREETCAR WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG.
THEY ALL HAVE CARS.
WHETHER THAT IS GOOD OR BAD UP TO THE PUBLIC TO DETERMINE.
NOT AN ANTI EVERYTHING.
IT IS THAT THEY DID NOT USE IT.
THEY ARE NOT USED TO IT.
THEY ARE NOT USED TO THINGS THAT WE HAD THEN BECAUSE ALL
MODERNIZE.
I MEAN THEY TONIGHT TALK TO EACH OTHER.
ALL THEY TO TEXT EACH OTHER.
THEY DON'T KNOW NOBODY ANYMORE AND THEY KNOW THE TEXT
NUMBER.
HOW LIFE IS.
I AM TRYING TO BE STRAIGHT UP WITH YOU.
A DIFFICULT THING.
AND IN MY LITTLE MIND, THE ONLY TRANSPORTATION THAT WILL
WORK -- YES, THE BUS HAS BEEN GREAT UP TO A POINT, YOU WILL
HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF LIGHT RAIL ELEVATED LIKE THE
AIRPORT.
PEOPLE USE IT BECAUSE YOUNG AND SMART AND DO SOMETHING FAST.
AND I CAN'T DRIVE A CAR 25-MILE-PER-HOUR ON ANY ROAD.
THEY WILL RUN YOU OVER.
EVEN IF YOU WERE DRIVING A SEMI, THEY GO OVER YOU BECAUSE
THAT IS HOW SATURDAY IS TODAY.
RIGHT OR WRONG?
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
BUT MY ANSWER IS THAT ARE WE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS
FEASIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT RIDING.
THE ONES -- THE ONES THAT ARE RIDING CERTAINLY NEED IT.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT THE OTHERS HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO
RIDE IT TO SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT IN A WAY.
YOU CAN'T HAVE -- AND THIS WHOLE COUNTRY, THIS WHOLE WORLD,
THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WITH THE CARBON DIOXIDE AND EVERYTHING
AND THE GASOLINE CAN BURN.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE IN AMERICA.
WILDFIRES OR FLOODING.
AND THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S FLOODING.
SIDEWALKS AND PAVE THE ROADS.
THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN THINGS THAT I HEAR IN THE LAST TWO
MONTHS.
AND I AM NOT HERE TO QUESTION YOU.
I THINK YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
BUT WE HAVE TO RETOOL OURSELVES TO THINK, WHAT ARE WE DOING?
CAN WE PUT OUR MONEY INTO A BETTER USE?
I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER AND I AM NOT IN THAT
BUSINESS.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND I KNOW YOU ARE HERE ON
OUR REQUEST.
AND I AM NOT MAKING YOU THE BLAME FOR ANYTHING, I AM JUST
SAYING WE MUST THINK FORWARD IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF
MINE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:29:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:29:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
I WAS GOING TO MAKE COMMENTS.
I AM NOT.
I MOVED FORWARD WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE.
THIS IS NOT A QUESTION OR COMMENT, IF THIS PASSES, INTERESTS
TRUE WE HAVE A HART BOARD MEETING ON MONDAY, RIGHT?
05:29:26PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
YEAH.
05:29:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FOR BUDGET.
WHAT I WILL DO AS THE CHAIR OF HART, A MEMO ASKING US TO BE
BRIEFED ON THIS.
I DON'T THINK IT IS A STRETCH TO SAY THAT THE HART BOARD --
I DON'T -- LET'S SAY THIS.
I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED IF THE HART BOARD DID NOT SUPPORT
THIS, RIGHT.
I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED.
IN OUR CAPACITY AS A HART BOARD, I AM VEERING OFF TO
COMMENTS THAT I WILL NOT DO, BUT I WILL MAKE COMMENTS ONCE
THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, THANK YOU.
05:29:52PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
IF I CAN JUST ADD.
WHEN I WENT -- STARTED BACK IN HART JUST A LITTLE OVER A
YEAR AGO.
ONE OF THE OFFICIALS THING THE BOARD SAID TO US AS STAFF, WE
ARE WALL RUN BUT CRITICALLY UNDERFUNDED.
OUR BOARD SAID ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO PARTNER WITH OUR
COMMUNITY?
AND I HAVE SPEARHEADED THE EFFORTS TO TRY TO FIND MORE
FUNDING.
ONE OFF WITH SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS.
CITY STAFF HAVE FUNDING FOR CIRCULATOR FOR THREE YEARS.
THAT APPLICATION FOR A PROJECT IS WITH A D.O.T.
UNTIL THE CITY STEPS UP TO FUND BETTER BUS SERVICE WE WILL
BE IN THE SAME POSITION AS WE WERE IN 1979 THAT IS MY
OPINION.
AND THE LIGHT RAIL PROJECT THAT WE ALL WANT DOWNTOWN TO THE
AIRPORT, THE STREETCAR EXTENSION IS ALL GREAT PROJECTS AND
WE ALL AGREE THEY SHOULD HAPPEN.
WITHOUT A STRONG LOCAL BUS NETWORK.
THEY WILL STRUGGLE AND THEIR RIDERSHIP PROJECTIONS STRUGGLE
AND WHERE I STAND ON THE BUS SIDE.
I HEARD YOU SAY THAT, COUNCILMAN, MANY TIMES, COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA AND INGRAINED IN MY HEAD.
I HAVE BEEN HERE 11 YEARS.
YOU HAVE BEEN SITTING ON MY SHOULDER.
BUT IT IS TRUE.
IT'S -- AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE
CITY DECIDED TO HAND OVER TRANSIT TO COUNTYWIDE AGENCY.
AND THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT HAVE AFFECTED HART IN MY 11
YEARS.
ALL OF THAT HAS CONTINUED TO PLAY OUT.
OUR MANDATE FOR 1,000 SQUARE MILES IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SERVE ON
HALF A MILL.
WE CAN NOT GET THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP TO CHANGE THAT.
AND I ALWAYS VEERED OFF COURSE MYSELF, SO I'LL STOP THERE.
05:31:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:31:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
WHEN YOU SAID THE CITY NEEDS TO STEP UP.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ME.
BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INTENTIONAL THAT THE HART
SYSTEM WAS SEPARATE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND THEY DID THAT FOR A REASON.
SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO STEP UP TO DO?
05:31:57PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
WELL --
05:31:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IN LAYMAN'S TERMS.
05:32:00PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
MOST TRANSIT AGENCIES, IF WE LOOK AT OUR PEERS,
RIGHT, ARE FUNDED BY A VARIETY OF SOURCES COUNTYWIDE GAS TAX, A
LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX.
EITHER A LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX OR SOME CITY FUNDING.
ST. PETE CONTRIBUTES $4 MILLION TO $5 MILLION TO PSTA.
A VARIETY OF SOURCES.
ONLY FUNDING FROM THE CITY THAT WE ARE GET SOMETHING CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS FOR BUS STOPS AND SOME OF THE CODE LANGUAGE
DICTATES THAT WE SHOULD GET BUS STOPS AS PART OF THAT
DEVELOPMENT.
CRA FUNDING FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THIS YEAR WHICH I AM
GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF AND GRATEFUL TO STAFF FOR WORKING
WITH US.
NEVER BEEN A TRANSIT EXIT AT THE CITY.
I MENTIONED THIS TO JEAN DUNCAN A DECADE AGO THE MANAGER,
EVERY TIME I CAN BEND HER EAR.
UNTIL THE CITY HAS EXPERTISE ON STAFF AND SKIN IN THE GAME
OTHER THAN THE SMALL PORTION OF THE HART BOARD THAT EXISTS,
I FEEL THAT THE AGENCY WILL STRUGGLE TO HELP THE CITY MEET
ITS TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AND IN THIS PERPETUAL CYCLE WHERE
THE CITY BLAMES HART AND HART HAS LITTLE ABILITY TO INCREASE
FUNDING WITHOUT BROAD SUPPORT FROM THE CITY COMMISSION WHICH
IS WHAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW AND COMPLICATED ANSWER TO
THE QUESTION.
05:33:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I PUT MY MIC ON AND YOU SAID WHAT I WAS
GOING TO SAY OF FUNDING WITH THE COUNTY AND ALL.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS THAT ARE LISTENING HEARD WHAT
YOU HAVE TO SAY.
THAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS IS -- IT IS COUNTY.
AND SO THE -- YOU KNOW, THERE ARE IS NOT A CITY THING.
AND WE TRY TO WORK WITHIN THE LIMITED BUDGET THAT WE HAVE TO
SUPPORT HART.
BUT THE MILLAGE AN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT ALL FLOWS THROUGH
THE COUNTY.
OUR BUDGET IS SO SMALL, THAT -- THAT WE NEED A BETTER COUNTY
COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT TRANSIT IN HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY.
AND -- AND THAT -- THAT IS PERIOD, BLANK THE END.
THE ANSWER IS NOT NECESSARILY.
WE CAN PUT BAND-AIDS ON IT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
BUT THE ANSWER IS NOT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT IS IN THE COUNTY LEVEL.
05:34:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THIS A QUESTION?
05:34:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, THAT WAS A QUESTION.
05:34:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
WE WILL GO TO -- WE WILL GO TO MISS KOPESKY'S PRESENTATION
AND OPEN IT UP FOR THE FIRST ROUND OF CITY COUNCIL
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
MISS KOPESKY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.
05:34:25PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
GOOD EVENING, HAGAR KAPESKY, CITY COUNCIL
BUDGET ANALYST.
I WILL MAKE THIS BRIEF, BUT A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT MIGHT BE
WORTH BRINGING BACK TO THE GROUP.
WE HAVE LIMITED OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT COLLECTIVELY.
SOME OF THESE ARE VERY CASUAL AND I WILL BE PUTTING THEM ON
ELMO, AFTER THAT A BRIEF PRESENTATION REGARDING THE PROGRESS
WE MADE WITH THE TEAM ON PAVING AND SIDEWALK AND GETTING
PREPARED ON HOW BEST TO ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS AND CHANGE SOME
PROCESSES AROUND.
SO, FIRST, LET'S TALK OF SOCIAL ACTION IN OUR SPENDING.
I KNOW THAT WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED, THE INITIAL TIME WE SAW
THIS ENCOMPASSED, I WOULD CALL IT TWO BUCKETS, SOCIAL, AND
NOT-FOR-PROFITS, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA ASSETS WHICH ARE
ESSENTIALLY THE CULTURAL FACILITY.
WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON EACH OF THOSE.
SEE IF I CAN GET THIS RIGHT.
SO REALLY, I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS SUMMARY THAT
HAS COME OUT OF MR. ROGERO'S DEPARTMENT, AND WHAT HAS
HAPPENED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, SUBTLE CHANGES TO
THIS.
A BREAKDOWN OF THE $3 MILLION THAT THE CITY AT THIS POINT
HAVE BUDGETED FOR 2025 FOR THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS
FUNDING ORGANIZATIONS.
THE REASON THAT THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS HIGHLIGHTED, THE
YELLOW ITEMS INDICATE ITEMS THAT ARE NEW TO THE FISCAL YEAR.
AND THE ITEMS IN BLUE REPRESENT ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE
RECEIVED AN INCREASE OVER THE PRIOR YEAR.
AND I AM GOING TO JUST KIND OF SCROLL HERE DOWN.
AND I CAN MAKE THIS AVAILABLE TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING AS
WELL.
SO THE REALLY THE POINT IS, YOU KNOW, BE AWARE OF KIND OF
THE COMBINATION OF WHAT IS ON THE LISTING, BUT ALSO, IN THE
3 MILLION, WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FOR WHAT WE CALL
UNALLOCATED FUNDING WAS THE $125,000 THAT YOU SEE AT THE
BOTTOM HERE.
I WILL PUT MY PEN SIT HERE.
THERE WE GO.
THAT ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT HAS NOT BEEN -- I AM GOING TO USE
THE WORD TAPPED INTO FOR ANY SPECIFIC ORG AND THE FUNDING
AVAILABLE FOR THE BALANCE OF THE YEAR.
05:36:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT LARGER, YOU CAN.
05:36:53PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE IT.
05:36:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
SURE.
05:36:56PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
WHERE THIS SITS WITH A PARTICULAR AREA.
IT DOES GET A LOT OF ATTENTION.
BEFORE I ROTATE OVER TO THE CITY ASSETS, ANY QUESTIONS ON
THIS?
05:37:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WAS THIS YOUR
MOTION?
05:37:10PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
IN GENERAL -- I THINK IT WAS A GENERAL.
05:37:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU SAID A LOT OF WHAT -- WHAT DID YOU
SAY?
05:37:15PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I SAID -- JUST IN BETWEEN THE INITIAL TIME
YOU SAW THIS ON JULY 18 AND NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL
REQUESTS PUT IN WHICH ARE REFLECTED IN HERE.
SO IN THE BEGINNING, JUST TO GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE, AN
UNDERALLOCATED BOLE OF 2012 TO BE USED AND NOW THAT BALANCE
IS DOWN TO 124.
05:37:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHOULD WE TAKE QUESTIONS NOW?
05:37:47PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
ON A PIECE BY PIECE, IT MAY BE EASIER NOW.
05:37:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EVERYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE BASICALLY
ALREADY EXISTED, CORRECT?
05:37:57PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
THERE WAS AN INCREASE TO IT.
05:37:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHY DID IT INCREASE?
05:38:01PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
05:38:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY.
DID IT INCREASE THROUGH YOUR OFFICE, MR. ROGERO?
AT THE MAYOR'S REQUEST?
05:38:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
JUST A CLARIFICATION, THEY INCREASED FISCAL
YEAR '24.
FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
I WILL HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT, MA'AM, IN TERMS OF WHERE THE
ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR INCREASE IN FUNDING CAME FROM.
WE CAN.
WE WILL CIRCLE IT BACK TO YOU.
05:38:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU CAN ONLY ASK A QUESTION?
05:38:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:38:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL.
YBOR MUSEUM.
DID THEY GET 150 LAST YEAR OR AM I WRONG?
I THINK THEY DID.
05:39:03PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
ACTUALLY IT WAS 125.
05:39:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
05:39:08PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
150 THE YEAR BEFORE.
05:39:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
I SEE A LITTLE ONE OF VETERANS HELPING VETERANS AND MERCY
PROJECT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ON COUNCIL -- DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT TO INCLUDE THOSE?
BECAUSE I SEE A LITTLE.
05:39:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF COUNCIL WANTS TO PROCEED, YOU CAN MAKE A
MOTION --
05:39:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL INTEND IT FOR THOSE -- I WON'T MAKE IT
NOW, BUT THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
05:39:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO REDUCE SOME OF
THESE FIGURES TOO.
WE CAN DO THAT?
05:39:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU CAN MAKE MOTIONS TO INCREASE AND
REDUCE.
05:39:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:39:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
BECAUSE I SPECIFICALLY.
I HAVE GOT QUESTIONS RESOURCES FROM ZERO TO 20, WITH WHERE
DID THAT COME FROM.
05:40:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I WILL HAVE TO LOOK IF SOMEONE FROM COUNCIL
OR CHAMBERS KNOWS WHERE THE REQUEST ORIGINATED.
05:40:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WAS ZERO ON '24.
05:40:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MUST HAVE HAPPENED SOME TIME DURING THIS
YEAR.
05:40:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WENT FROM 0 IN '24.
NOT BUDGETED AT ALL IN 2024.
AND 120 BUDGETED IN '25 ACCORDING TO THE PAPER I HAVE IN
FRONT OF ME.
LIGHTHOUSE TO THE BLIND WENT FROM ZERO TO 50.
YOU SHOW THAT AS AN ADD ON?
YOU DO, OKAY.
YEAH, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHERE -- WHERE DO THESE
INCREASES COME FROM AND HOW DO THEY APPEAR ON THIS LIST.
AND I -- I AM CURIOUS.
IT IS INTERESTING YOU BROUGHT UP.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SKIN ON THE GAME IN THE YBOR CITY MUSEUM,
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IN '22, THEY WERE AT 46.
THEY WENT TO 50 APPEAR AND JUMPED TO 125.
AND NOW JUMPING TO 150.
YEAH.
DO YOU MIND, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
05:41:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
YBOR CITY MUSEUM HAD SEEN A CUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
THEIR FUNDING GOT CUT FROM -- I THINK IT WAS -- I DON'T WANT
TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, 150 DOWN TO THE $50,000.
LAST YEAR WE GOT THEM UP TO THE LEVEL THEY USED TO BE AT
WITH THE CONSENT OF COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION.
THAT IS WHY THEY GOT THE INCREASE.
THEY HAD A LOT OF MONETARY PROBLEMS.
PEOPLE WANT TO SUPPORT THE GREAT WORK THAT THE MUSEUM DOES.
THAT IS THE EXPLANATION.
THEY USED TO BE AT A LEVEL AND WE GOT THEM BACK TO THE LEVEL
THEY USED TO BE AT.
05:41:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE A TOUR TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A HISTORY MUSEUM -- TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE
ARE DOING THERE BECAUSE I CAN'T SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT
IT, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T.
OKAY.
THOSE ARE -- MY BIGGEST THING LEADERSHIP GOING FROM 0 TO 120
JUMPS OUT AT ME.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERS TO THAT.
AND LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND, WHY IS THAT SHOWING UP FOR THE
FIRST TIME.
NOT THAT IT IS NOT AN UNWORTHY ORGANIZATION, BUT WHY IS IT
SHOWING UP FOR THE FIRST TIME.
EN WALDEN ACADEMY.
I AM ASSUMING THAT MUST HAVE COME FROM YOU?
05:42:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO PEPIN HAS A WELDING PROGRAM THAT HELPS YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, VERY MINOR DISABILITIES TO BECOME
WELDERS.
BRIAN MARTINEZ, A GULF WAR VETERAN, A NICE GUY, DOES THAT.
I WORKED OUT WITH THE ADVOCATES WITH PEPIN TO IMPROVE THE
PROGRAM FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
MINOR CONTRIBUTION.
05:42:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT PROGRAM AT THEIR CITY OF TAMPA
FACILITY?
05:42:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY UNDERSTANDING IT WILL BE.
THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, YEAH.
05:42:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE THEY HAVE ANOTHER CAMPUS.
05:42:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THEY HAVE RIVERVIEW AND ETC.
I WANT TO QUALIFY THAT.
BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WILL BE.
05:43:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND MIRANDA.
05:43:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CHIEF OF STAFF IS HERE.
IF HE WOULDN'T MIND, IF I CAN ASK HIM A QUESTION.
I THINK I THINK YOU LET -- I MAY BE INCORRECT, BUT YOU LED
THE EFFORT SEVERAL YEARS TOO FORMALIZE THIS PROCESS A MORE
STRINGENT PROCESS MORE BASED ON RESULTS, NOT BASED ON RANDOM
REQUESTS.
CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE STRATEGY THAT IS -- THAT YOU USE
BEHIND THIS.
AND WHY THESE FOLKS WERE PUT IN.
AND WITHOUT GOING THROUGH EVERYONE INDIVIDUALLY, MAYBE JUST
EXPLAIN WHY SOME MAY HAVE GONE UP AND DOWN.
05:43:39PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
SURE, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
GOOD EVENING TO THE PUBLIC.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHEN WE GOT HERE AND SAW IT WAS A
FUN 200.
AND NOT A LOT, BUT SOME OF THE ENTITIES WAS LIMITED
CAPABILITY AND STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITY.
AND, OF COURSE, WE WERE A DISRUPTIVE WITH THE COVID WINDOW
AND WANTED TO BRING MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND SCOPE OF WORK
AND OF COURSE CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND THRESHOLDS HAVE TO
MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS.
PUBLIC RECORD REQUIREMENTS.
AUDIT REQUIREMENTS.
SOME JUST TO TIGHTEN ALL OF THAT UP AND TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE CITY AND, OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION
FEEL THAT THE MONEY COMING FROM THE PUBLIC TO THE NONPROFITS
ARE PROVIDING THESE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ALIGN WITH THE
COUNCIL'S VISION, OF COURSE, AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE
CITY.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE UP OR REQUESTED TO GO UP,
WHETHER THEY COME THROUGH COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION OR IN
SOME CASES DIRECTLY TO THE CITY USUALLY HAS, OF COURSE, A
NEXUS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE GOALS OF THE CITY.
AND, OF COURSE, AS WE VET THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THROUGH
THESE AGREEMENTS, THAT TRADITIONALLY GETS TIGHTER AND
TIGHTER, AND IT IS -- AGAIN, ONE OF THE VISIONS THAT WE HAD
IS TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE SUPPORT EITHER DIRECTING
SOME OF THESE FUNDS TO EITHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OR OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES TO -- TO HELP START-UPS AND SPREAD THE WEALTH
OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEN, OF
COURSE, OVER TIME, LET THEM KIND OF WEAN OFF OF THESE FUNDS.
SO WE ARE STILL A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
OF THE COVID DISRUPTION, BUT, AGAIN, AS WE GO ON AND ON, WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE PEST TURN ON THE TAXPAYERS'
INVESTMENT FOR THE NONPROFITS.
05:45:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU TALKED OF ALIGNING A STRATEGY.
IT WILL BE HELPFUL IN THE FUTURE AND INCLUDING THIS ONE TO
CATEGORIZE THEM OF TOPICS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SOME WOULD PIT UNDER ARTS.
WORK FORCE TRAINING, WHATEVER.
IF THERE WAS PROBABLY NOT MORE THAN TEN BUCKETS BUT IDEALLY
LIKE FIVE.
AND SO IT WOULD SHOW THAT -- MY QUESTION IS, IF THAT IS
POSSIBLE, CAN YOU SHOW IT US TO?
WILL MAKE IT EASIER TO EXPLAIN IT TO THE PUBLIC.
05:46:01PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
ABSOLUTELY.
05:46:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:46:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALONG THE SAME THING.
I AM THROWING IT OUT.
A PRO FORMA OF YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
A WANT, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE NEED.
THEY TURN IN -- WE HAD SO MANY VISITORS OR WHATEVER IT WAS
THAT SO MANY CAME IN.
SO MANY SETTLED AND WORKING ON SO MANY.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
05:46:26PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.
ONE OF THE BASELINES INSTITUTED WAS THE LOGIC MODEL.
LIKE A ONE-PAGE GRANT MACHINE STYLE APPROACH TO BRING MORE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY TO THE NONPROFIT INTERFACE
WITH THE CITY.
SO THE TYPICAL MANAGED -- OUR RESOURCES ARE OUTPUTS AND
OUTCOMES AND A DISCLOSURE OF WHERE YOU GET OTHER FUNDING
FROM, WHERE YOUR STAFF LOOKS LIKE.
WE WERE LOOKING TO PROVIDE MORE PROBLEMATIC FUNDING THAN
STAFF FUNDING.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT SOME STAFF LEADS TO BETTER WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT AND SPRINKLED IN THERE, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA WAS
TO USE THE LOGIC MODELS THE JUMP-OFF POINT.
AND SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR THE FULL-BLOWN AGREEMENT AND
QUARTERLY REPORTS TO GET THE TRANCHES IN QUARTERLY
DISTRIBUTIONS FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE.
05:47:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANY TIMES OF AUDITS EVERY THREE YEARS OR
SOMETHING?
05:47:23PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
IN THE BOILERPLATE THAT LEGAL HAS WORKED
WELL TO DEVELOP.
AND EMBEDDED IN THAT REALLY THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT THE
NONPROFITS ARE PROVIDING AND, AGAIN, TO THE OTHER POINT, HOW
WELL ALIGNED THEY ARE TO THE VISION OF THE CITY.
05:47:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
05:47:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM?
05:47:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ACTUALLY, CHIEF, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND STAYING
TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS.
YOU SAID THERE IS A ONE-PAGE DESCRIPTOR THAT THEY HAVE TO
PUT FORWARD?
05:47:54PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
THAT IS WHAT WE STARTED WITH BEFORE IT WAS
MORE BLOSSOMING THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
PROVIDED THEM A TEMPLATE -- ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A ONE-PAGE
GRANT BUT A LOGIC MODEL THAT WALKS YOU THROUGH, THESE ARE
THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE OR NEED AND THESE ARE THE
OUTPUTS WE WILL PROVIDE WITH THE EXPECTED OUTCOMES AND
REPORT ON THAT QUARTERLY TO DEVELOP THE NEXT TRANCH OF
FUNDING.
05:48:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THOSE ARE AVAILABLE?
05:48:20PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
YES.
05:48:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WILL BE HANDY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE.
IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO SEND US PDFs OF THIS.
IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE SOME OF US DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS GOES FOR AND WE ARE
THE ONES ALLOCATING THIS FUNDING IT WILL BE GREAT -- AT
LEAST I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK THROUGH THEM ESPECIALLY IF THEY
ARE ONE-PAGERS.
05:48:40PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
SURE.
05:48:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WILL HELP BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
TO REALLY DETERMINE THE UNDERSTANDING.
AT LEAST THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION OR MY ASK.
I DON'T THINK I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.
IT IS NOT MOTION TIME, BUT I THINK IT WILL HELP US TO
DETERMINE IF THAT IS SOMETHING, MR. ROGERO.
05:49:00PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
IF I CAN ADD JUST ONE QUICK THING.
AGAIN, AS WE INTRODUCE THIS LOGIC MODEL AS PAPER TRANSPARENT
INTERFACE OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THEY ARE ASKING, ONE OF
THE MATURATION PROCESSES OF THIS IS TO DECENTRALIZE IT OUT
OF THE CFOs OFFICE OF WHERE THIS ACCOUNTABILITY BEGAN AND
DECENTRALIZE TO THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN THE DIFFERENT
ROLES AND DEPARTMENTS WHICH ARE ALSO WORKING NO NOW ON THE
EPISCOPAL OF SERVICES IN THE BIGGER BOILERPLATE.
THIS HAS BEEN AN EVOLUTION OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND
TRANSPARENCY, BUT I WILL LET THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER
AUGMENT MY COMMENTS.
05:49:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, CHIEF.
WELL SAID.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND
CLARIFICATION WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT WHEN WE PROVIDE YOU
COPIES.
YOU KNOW, AS THE CHIEF SAID, IT HAS BEEN A DYNAMIC PROCESS
GOING FROM A ONE -PAGER UNTIL BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR '25,
EVERY NONPROFIT THAT RECEIVED MORE THAN $25,000 WILL
ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT, AN AGREEMENT NOW.
RIGHT NOW ABOUT HALF OF THEM DO.
IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
THIS IS THE LETTER DATED TODAY AND I WILL SEND IT OUT
TOMORROW.
THE CITY HAS AGREEMENTS FROM ALL AGENCIES REQUESTING FUNDING
OF 25 OR GREATER.
AS COUNCIL MOTIONS MOST FUNDING MUST BE APPLIED FOR ON AN
ANNUAL BASIS AND SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL.
SO WE HAVE PROGRESSED FAR FROM JUST ONE PAGE.
UNLESS, OF COURSE FOR FISCAL YEAR '25, WE ARE GETTING LESS
THAN 25,000.
WHAT COUNCIL WILL GET WITH THESE COPIES ARE THOSE FEW
REMAINING ONE-PAGERS.
AND IF YOU WANT, THE AGREEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THE
NONPROFITS.
05:50:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I PERSONALLY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
AND THEN MY QUESTION BECOMES, HOW DO WE -- HOW DO WE MONITOR
THE LESS THAN $25,000?
OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE KIND OF GIVE AND SAY YOU HAVE THREE
YEARS AND THAT'S IT?
05:51:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT IS OUR INTENT -- OF COURSE, WE ARE OPEN
TO CONTINUE WITH THE ONE-PAGERS THE SAME WAY WE HAVE DONE
WHICH IS A QUARTERLY REPORT AS TO THEIR PROGRESS BEFORE WE
GIVE THEM A QUARTERLY PAYMENT.
05:51:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE ARE TRYING TO WEAN
SOME ORGANIZATIONS OFF AFTER, I BELIEVE -- I DON'T KNOW
WHERE THREE YEARS GOT IN MY HEAD.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS NO NECESSARILY TRUE, BUT --
05:51:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AND I -- I WOULD TRANSFER WEAN INTO PROVIDE
MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER START-UPS, MEANING, KIND OF
CREATE A DIMINIMUS PROCESS AND GUIDE THEM WITH TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE TO OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
I HAD A GROUP PING US FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY OUTSIDE THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
AND I ALIGN THEM WITH OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT TO POINT TO
THEM OF THEIR FUNDING SOURCES SO I THINK A JOURNEY OF
SUPPORT WHERE THEY START OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, SEED MONEY AND
WORK ITS WAY DOWN OPPOSED TO BECOMING SO CONSISTENT WE AVOID
OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER NONPROFITS TO BE ENGAGED.
05:52:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SEE REALLY BIG NAMES ON THE LIST.
AND I KIND OF QUESTION WHY FOLKS ARE STILL GETTING -- SO THE
SOME POINT, WE WANT THE MONEY TO GO TOWARD SMALLER MORE --
THAT IS WHY I AM INTERESTED IN READING THIS DOCUMENTATION TO
SEE HOW WE GO FURTHER.
THANK YOU.
THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
05:52:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND THEN
CLENDENIN.
05:52:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DR. CHIEF, YOU KNOW WE HAD EXTENSIVE
CONVERSATIONS OF THIS PARTICULAR LIST.
A VERY SMALL PORTION OF OUR BUDGET, BUT IT REALLY MATTERS
BECAUSE SUPPORTING LOCAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THE THING
THAT CAME UPON OUR DESK, VOTED ON THE NAACP.
SOLIDIFIED AN AGREEMENT AND CAME ACROSS OUR DESK AND WE
VOTED ON IT.
WE ALSO VOTED ON COMMUNITY STEPPING STONES.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT AGREEMENT -- YOU PUT THAT LETTER DOWN.
WE DON'T HAVE AGREEMENTS FOR EVERYTHING ON THIS PAGE, AND
YET THEY ARE STILL GETTING THIS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
FUNDING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
FOR EXAMPLE, ESPECIALLY -- AND IT IS NOT THE $25,000 THAT
BOTHERING ME, THE $200,000 ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
REPEATEDLY BEEN ON THIS LIST AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY
AGREEMENTS.
AND PUT NAACP THROUGH THIS AND QUESTIONS.
NO ONE HAS QUESTIONED THE LARGER AMOUNTS GOING AFTER THESE
ORGANIZATIONS JEER AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AND NO AGREEMENT IN
PLACE.
SOME THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED.
SHOULD BE AN ASTERISK BY EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT DOES NOT
HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH US OVER $25,000.
IF THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING, GO AHEAD AND IDENTIFY WHO
DOESN'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE VOTE FOR THEM.
AND THEY DID HAVE TO DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO COME TO
THE TABLE TO GET WHAT THEY GOT.
REMEMBER THEY WERE HERE LAST WEEK.
WE MOVED THE RESOLUTION AND THEY WERE KIND OF CONCERNS
BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET READY TO NOT GIVE
IT TO THEM.
AND WE HAD TO EXPLAIN NO THIS IS THE TIME -- THAT IS HOW
LONG IT HAS TAKEN.
BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE ON THIS LIST AND DON'T HAVE AGREEMENTS
AT ALL AT MUCH HIGHER FIGURES.
SO CAN YOU -- WILL YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH AN
ASTERISK OF OVER ORGANIZATION OVER $25,000 THAT DOES NOT
HAVE AN AGREEMENT?
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT CORAL BRODY IS WORKING ON THOSE.
05:54:36PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
YES.
05:54:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE SHOULD KNOW THE POSITION OF THOSE
BECAUSE HOW CAN WE MAKE A GOOD DECISION AND GIVE AWAY
ANOTHER $200,000 FOR AN ORGANIZATION -- THESE ORGANIZATIONS
HAVE GOTTEN THIS MONEY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND NO ONE -- IT PREDATES EVEN YOU ALL.
THEY ARE ON THE LIST.
THEY MADE THE LIST.
AND NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN ANY OF THAT.
WHY ARE THEY AT THESE LEVELS AND WHY ARE WE CONTINUING TO DO
IT WITHOUT AGREEMENTS AND THEY ARE OVER A CERTAIN DOLLAR
FIGURE WHERE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REARED TO COME BEFORE US
TO GET THEIR FUNDING.
05:55:09PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
THE ADMINISTRATION AGREES WITH YOU
COMPLETELY ON THAT.
05:55:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY, GOOD.
05:55:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND MIRANDA.
05:55:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL START WITH A FOLLOW-UP THAT
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON -- POINT-BLANK, WHY DON'T THESE
ORGANIZATIONS -- WHY AREN'T THEY HELD AT THE SAME STANDARD
AND AGREEMENTS WITH THEM?
05:55:29PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JUST AS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER -- A
JOURNEY TO GET TO THE SUBJECT MATTER DEPARTMENTS TO WORK
WITH HEEL WHEN THE BOILERPLATE CAME OUT FOR THE AGREEMENTS
$25,000.
05:55:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT HAS BEEN AT LEAST A YEAR.
05:55:43PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE COMMUNICATIONS
DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO WORK WITH THE ONES $ 00,000 AND FIGURE
OUT WHAT THEIR SCOPE OF SERVICES ARE.
THEY HAVE BEEN ENGAGED OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHAT THEY WILL
CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY.
AS THESE AGREEMENTS DEVELOP, THE SCOPE OF SERVICES --
05:55:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU KNOW HOW YOU GET THEM REALLY QUICK?
05:56:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU CUT THEIR FUNDING.
05:56:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU JUST READ MY MIND.
05:56:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AND I PLAN TO DO THAT.
05:56:07PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
THE FUNDING INCREASES CAME FROM THE CHAMBER.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON TO GET THE SCOPE OF SERVICES
DOWN TO --
05:56:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO QUESTION FOR YOU.
I SEE IN JUST THE LAST THREE YEARS THESE FUNDS HAVE NEARLY
DOUBLED.
AND JUST -- A VERY SHORT -- A BLINK OF AN EYE, A COUPLE OF
YEARS.
HAVE YOU ALL CONSIDERED CAPPING THE GROWTH OF THIS FUND --
OR CAP THE GROWTH OF THIS FUND.
05:56:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I THOUGHT IT WAS $5 MILLION THE FIRST
YEAR, AT THE BEGINNING.
05:56:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO YOU KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME OF
THESE REASONS WE HAD TO FUND THESE SOURCES BECAUSE STOPPED
FUNDING AND THE COUNTY STOPPED FUNDING.
THINKING OF THAT --
05:56:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
POINT WELL TAKEN.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT BEFORE YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD ANY
FURTHER.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, WE ARE LIKE, MAN, WE
ARE COUGHING UP SOME COIN FOR SOME OF THESE ORGANIZES.
AND PROBABLY SOME OF MY MISGIVINGS, BECAUSE I HAD TO GOOGLE
WHAT SOME ORGANIZATION WAS.
I NEVER HEARD OF THIS ORGANIZATION AND GIVING THEM MONEY.
LITERALLY WHILE I WAS DOWN HERE GOOGLING.
WHO THE HECK IS THIS.
I MEAN -- I GUESS THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
05:57:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:57:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT'S GOOGLE?
[LAUGHTER]
05:57:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
UNDER ABACUS.
05:57:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME SAY THIS.
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO BE ON THE SAME
PAGE AS THOSE HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE TO MEET THE
OBLIGATION WITHIN SIX MONTHS OR SOMETHING.
AND WE ARE NOT PUTTING THE BURDEN ON US.
WE ARE PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THEM.
THAT WAY -- I WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS.
I DON'T THINK IT IS PROPER FOR ME TO CRITICIZE SOMEBODY WHO
HAS OR DOESN'T HAVE IT.
I DON'T KNOW THE INTAKE AND THE OUTTAKES OF THE WHOLE THING.
I THINK THAT WILL SOLVE THE WHOLE PROBLEM.
I AM NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT TO HAVE EVERYBODY SEE
THROUGH THE SAME LENSES IT OUGHT TO BE CLEARED UP SO
EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
05:58:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND WHATEVER --
05:58:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, WE CAN'T --
05:58:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MR. BRODY IS HERE AND CAN TELL US THE
AGREEMENT --
05:58:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION --
05:58:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BUT HE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.
HE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION, BECAUSE HE IS HERE.
05:58:26PM >>CARL BRODY:
CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT I CAN'T TELL
YOU EXACTLY WHO HAS THEM, UNFORTUNATELY.
WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ON A RULE-IN BASIS.
DEPENDING ON WHEN THE INITIAL AGREEMENT WAS.
LET'S SAY IT STARTED IN AUGUST.
YES, THEY CAN BE UP TO DATE.
WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATED AGREEMENT.
IF IT STARTED IN DECEMBER, AND IT IS A YEAR LONG, AT THE END
OF THAT YEAR PERIOD, THEN THEY WILL BE UP THERE WITH THE NEW
AGREEMENT.
THAT IS WHERE IT CAME IN.
IT HAD ITS AGREEMENT DUE.
SO WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
MORE RECENTLY WE SAW WE HAD THE STRAZ CENTER.
AND THEY HAD ONE THAT CAME THROUGH.
AND WE ALSO HAD THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA THAT HAD ONE COME
THROUGH LAST YEAR.
AND ALL BASED ON THE ANNUAL REAPPOINTMENT OR ADJUSTMENT OF
AFFIDAVIT AGREEMENT.
05:59:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS CONFUSING TO ME.
LAST AGREEMENT WITH THE NAACP WHEN FRANK REDDICK WAS IN THIS
CHAIR.
HOW LONG AGO IS THAT?
TWO COUNCILMEMBERS DISTRICT 5 -- THAT IS AT LEAST 10, 12
YEARS AND IT WAS BECAUSE THEY GOT A LARGER AMOUNT AND THAT
IS WHY THEY HAD A NEW AGREEMENT?
05:59:46PM >>CARL BRODY:
THEIRS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY.
05:59:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FROM $7,000 TO $100,000.
05:59:52PM >>CARL BRODY:
CORRECT.
DURING THAT PERIOD WE WERE UPDATING AGREEMENTS.
THEY MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FIRST SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS
FUNDING THAT WE DID TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT SET OF TERMS.
06:00:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WILL ASK YOU AN EASIER QUESTION.
ANYBODY WITH A $200,000 EAR MARK, DO THEY HAVE AGREEMENTS
WITH US ALREADY THAT ARE IN PLACE, THAT ARE CURRENT?
06:00:16PM >>CARL BRODY:
IF THEY DON'T, THEY WILL ON THE NEXT CYCLE.
06:00:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BUT ANYONE THAT CURRENTLY HAS THAT?
06:00:22PM >>CARL BRODY:
I DON'T LOOK AT THAT SIDE.
I LOOK AT THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT.
06:00:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU SOUND LIKE A LAWYER.
THANK YOU.
06:00:27PM >>CARL BRODY:
THANK YOU.
06:00:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
06:00:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT
THE CONCERN FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE NAACP ONE IS ONE
THEY WERE SINGLED OUT.
SECOND, IT TOOK SO LONG.
THEY FELT LIKE THAT AGREEMENT APPROVED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED A YEAR AGO.
SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO SPEED UP THE PROCESS,
YOU MIGHT LET US KNOW.
WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, MR. CHIEF OF STAFF, YOU DON'T HAVE
TO GET UP, BUT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL GOING FORWARD IF WE HAVE
MAYBE IN A WORKSHOP.
IF -- IF YOUR TEAM TAKES US THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT YOU ARE
PROPOSING, MAYBE GO SOME INPUT FROM US AND THE PUBLIC, SO
THERE IS TRANSPARENCY TO IT AND TO AND FRO SO WE CAN AVOID
HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN THE FIRST HEARING AND BE MORE
STRATEGIC FOR NEXT YEAR.
06:01:21PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
WE ARE OPEN TOE THAT AND A METHODOLOGICAL
APPROACH TO FITS ALL OUR NEEDS AND GETTING AGREEMENTS IN
PLACE THAT COP PORTS WITH THE CODE.
WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THERE.
WE ARE TRYING MOVE THIS ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND
MOST IMPORTANTLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE BROADEST WAY BOB.
06:01:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MISS KOPESKY, DO YOU HAVE MORE TO YOUR PRESENTATION?
06:01:48PM >> YES.
06:01:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE GOOD STUFF YET.
06:01:52PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
AT THE BEGINNING, I SAID WHEN FIRST STARTED
LOKING AT AID FUNDING.
I CALLED IT --
06:01:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PUT IT DOWN BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE.
06:02:00PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I SEE THAT.
06:02:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SEND IT OUT SLIGHTLY.
06:02:05PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
NEWBIE.
ALL RIGHT.
SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED REVIEWING AID FUNDING, WE TALKED OF
TWO BUCKETS.
THE SECOND ONE WAS THE CITY OF TAMPA ASSETS OR WHAT I REFER
TO AS THE CULTURAL FACILITIES.
IN LIGHT OF THE FACT WE WERE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS,
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GIVE SOMEONE A SNAPSHOT OF THE
TOTALITY OF THAT.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, INITIALLY WHEN WE DISCUSS IT, WE TALKED OF
THE NONDEPARTMENTAL, THE GENERAL FUND.
AND SO, I THINK WHEN COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID WASN'T THE
NUMBER BIGGER, THE FUNDING AS WELL THE PORTION THAT YOU
WOULD SEE IN THIS FIRST COLUMN CALLED NONDEPARTMENTAL, SO
FOR THOSE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.
SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST WALK THROUGH AND SHOW, YOU KNOW
THE MONEY IS DISPERSED IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A CURRENT ACTIVE LOAN WITH
THE AQUARIUM.
IN '25, THE PAYMENT OF THAT LOAN WOULD BE $7 MILLION AND I
WILL CONTINUE FROM LEFT TO RIGHT ENTERPRISE FUND, MOBILITY
AND PARKING $123,000, AGAIN, TO THE STREETCAR IN ADDITION TO
THE GENERAL FUND.
CRA PROVIDES SEVERAL CONTRACTS OF FUNDING AND SPECIFICS ARE
NOTED OFF TO THE RIGHT.
BUT WHEN YOU PUT THOSE -- EVERYTHING TOGETHER FOR THESE --
ONE, TWO, THREE, FIVE -- NINE ORGANIZATIONS, $27 MILLION.
THIS IS JUST TO LEVEL SET EVERYONE ON COMMITMENT AND WHAT WE
HAVE DONE.
THAT IS THE TOTALITY OF IT.
ANY QUESTIONS?
06:03:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES?
06:03:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST QUICK QUESTION, 72. 35.
WHAT IS THE TOTALITY OF THE -- I GUESS SOCIAL ACTION?
06:03:59PM >> THE ONE WE JUST WENT OVER IS $3 MILLION.
06:04:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY?
06:04:06PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
3.
06:04:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
27945.
06:04:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THREE.
OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:04:12PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
SO NEXT --
06:04:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHIEF OF STAFF, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
06:04:18PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
ARE YOU COMMENTING ON THIS?
06:04:20PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JUST ON THE SOCIAL ACTION.
A SIDEBAR WITH LEGAL MORN FOR THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC TO
HEAR, GOING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR NO SOCIAL AGREEMENT THAT
WILL GET A DOLLAR WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
06:04:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
25,000 LEVEL.
ALL OF THEM WILL NEED AN AGREEMENT.
06:04:37PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
ABOVE $25,000.
WE NEED AN AGREEMENT GOING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR.
06:04:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT WAS VERY CLEAR.
YES, SIR?
06:04:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
CHIEF BENNETT, THAT OVER $25,000 OR $25,000 AND OVER.
06:04:53PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
$25,000 AND OVER.
06:04:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SOMEONE AT $25,000, WE PUT THEM AT 24 --
06:05:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, NO, NO.
06:05:03PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GO TO 24 NOW, 999.
06:05:09PM >> MOVING ON, I WILL ASK THAT THE PRESENTATION I PROVIDED BE
BROUGHT UP, PLEASE.
SO ANOTHER TOPIC NEAR AND DEAR TO THIS GROUP'S HEART IS
RESURFACING AND SIDEWALKS.
AND SO -- HERE WE GO.
IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, MR. ROGERO, MR. BHIDE AND I ARE
MEETING OUR ARMS HOW TO PUT THIS PROCESS IN PLACE.
I JUST WANT TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH.
SO WHEN WE MET, WHAT WE HAD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW,
HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEFINE THIS?
BECAUSE WE KNOW A LOT OF ROADWORK THAT GETS DONE.
WHEN WE HEAR THIS DISCUSSION, WE KNOW -- WE BELIEVE THAT
WHAT IS REALLY BEING DISCUSSED OFTEN IS THE ANNUAL ONGOING
RESURFACING MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR.
YMCA IS THIS IMPORTANT?
BECAUSE WE NEED TO ISOLATE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND
KNOW HOW THIS PLAN FOR IT.
AND MEASURE IT.
SO ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT I THINK HAS BEEN
DISCUSSED WITH THE GROUP OF FOUR IS, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A
LOT OF OTHER RESURFACING THAT GOES ON.
SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY,
YES, THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER PROJECTS IN TRANSPORTATION.
THERE ARE GOING TO BE RIGOROUS -- ROAD RESURFACING THAT WILL
BE NECESSARY, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A STORMWATER PROJECT.
THOSE DO OCCUR AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
BUT, AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK TODAY OF ANNUAL RESURFACING AND
WHERE WE WANT TO THROW THAT, LET'S PUT OUR FOCUS ON THE ONES
WE WANT TO CONSIDER AGAIN.
ANNUAL RECURRING TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS.
SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DID REQUEST MR. BHIDE IS TO
GIVE US WHAT WOULD BASICALLY ENCOMPASS HIS MAXIMUM ANNUAL
CAPACITY TO DO WORK ON ROAD RESURFACING AND SIDEWALKS.
WE WILL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.
IN ADDITION, WE ALL HAVE THE CAPITAL PLAN FOR 2025, EMBEDDED
IN THERE ARE TOMB RUSS PROJECT ID NUMBERS.
IDENTIFYING WHICH ONES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WILL BE
ESSENTIAL OF UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH THEM.
TO GET RIGHT DOWN TO CAPACITY, BROKE THESE INTO THE BUCKET.
WE HAVE RESURFACING THE ROAD WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO WITH
CONTRACTORS.
WE HAVE RESURFACING THAT CAN BE PERFORMED WITH THE INTERNAL
TEAM.
AND -- COME ON, FEEL FREE.
AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT VIK HAS EXPLAINED BEFORE, THAT THE TYPE
OF WORK DONE WITH THE INTERNAL CAN BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
THAN THE WORK DONE WITH THE CONTRACTING TEAM.
I AM GOING TO KEEP GOING UNTIL YOU TELL ME NOT TO.
WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS, WE NODE THAT IS ANOTHER AREA
THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN.
SO THE CAPACITY WAS $2 MILLION FOR THE FIXES -- SORRY, NEW
AND FIXED AND CAN USE THE INTERNAL TEAM TO THE TUNE OF 2
MILLION FOR MODIFICATIONS AND CORRECTIONS.
IN TOTAL THAT BRINGS US TO AN ESTIMATED ANNUAL CAPACITY OF
$25 MILLION.
OKAY, THE NOTE ON THE BOTTOM HAS BEEN PUT IN HERE AND SOME
DIALOGUE AROUND AS QUESTION CONTINUE TO MEASURE THE REQUEST
OF THE IN-HOUSE SAVING AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF LOOKING
AT SOMETHING SIMILAR SIDEWALKS.
THIS IS SIMPLY TO STAY WE WANT TO GET OUR FOOTING WITH
INTERNAL PAVING AND COME BACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT FINANCIAL
SUCCESS HAS BEEN BEFORE WE HAVE A FORMAL ASK IN ADDITION TO
SIDEWALKS.
06:08:36PM >>VIK BHIDE:
VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
SO ON THE SIDEWALKS PIECE, THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS TO IT.
ONE, AS HAGAR MENTIONED, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET A BETTER
FOOTING ON THE -- ON THE INHOUSE PAVING TEAM AND GET THEM
MORE CAPABILITIES.
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WHAT OUR FINANCIAL NEEDS ARE FOR SIDEWALK
TEAM.
IT IS A LITTLE SHY OF $4 MILLION A YEAR.
WHAT THEY DO NOT INCLUDE -- AND THAT IS THE BIG DISCUSSION
FOR US IS AS WE EXPAND TEAM SIZES, THEY REQUIRE FACILITIES
AND SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT TO PARK THIS EQUIPMENT AND TO
HOUSE THE STAFF THEMSELVES.
AND FACILITIES IN REAL ESTATE, AS YOU KNOW, ARE REALLY TIGHT
AND PRETTY EXPENSIVE AND THAT COST IS NOT FACTORED IN.
SOMETHING WE ARE COGNIZANT OF AND WORK WITH THE FACILITIES
DEPARTMENT SHOULD WE GET THERE AND THAT IS ONE OF THE
CONSIDERATIONS.
06:09:57PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
THIS IS TO SUGGEST -- I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
YOU TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS.
06:10:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME CLOSER.
06:10:03PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
SORRY, AS YOU BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE
CAPITAL LISTING, YOU BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE CAPITAL IDs.
WE WILL HAVE THIS 2150 MEMORIZED BECAUSE EXPANSES THE
MAJORITY OF THE RESURFACING.
THE REASON I INDICATED WE WILL BE OPENING UP A NEW NUMBER TO
TRACK THE INTERNAL IS TO SIMPLY ALLOW US TO BETTER
UNDERSTAND AND REPORT THE PERFORMANCE FOR THAT AND A NEW
NUMBER FOR INTERNAL STREET RESURFACING.
MOVING DOWN, THE TWO OTHER NUMBERS ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE
AND THIS IS, AGAIN, THE STATEMENT WHEN WE FORWARD AND TALK
OF THIS PARTICULAR EFFORT THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING.
YOU WILL SEE MANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT INDICATE SPECIFIC
ROADWORK OR OTHER THINGS.
BUT THESE ARE THE ONES WE WILL BE FOCUSED ON MEASURING.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT GAP.
BECAUSE YOU ARE IN A PLACE WHERE YOU NEED TO DECIDE HOW BEST
TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON PRIORITIZING CAP-X.
SO WALKING THROUGH -- WALKING THROUGH WHERE WE HAVE
ESTIMATED WE WILL PROBABLY BE IN TERMS OF FINISHING OUT THIS
YEAR WITH CARRY-OVER MONEY AND THE AMOUNTS PUT INTO THE
BUDGET FOR FISCAL '25.
I HAVE BROKEN OUT EACH OF THE AMOUNTS THAT WE THINK ARE
ACTUALLY AVAILABLE.
LET'S SEE HERE.
AND CREATES AT THE END A GAP OF $15 MILLION.
IF WE ARE GOING TO STRIVE OF HITTING THE MAXIMUM 25 MILLION.
THE POINT IS, AS WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS IN THE CAP-X
PLAN, $4.1 MILLION FOR RESURFACING WITH CONTRACTORS.
$1.3 WITH THE INTERNAL TEAM.
WE CONSIDER MR. BHIDE'S CAPACITY, IF WE WANT TO HIT THIS
HARD AND REALLY GO AFTER IT, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT IS HAVING TO REDEPLOY $15 MILLION FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE
TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
06:12:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:12:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE CAPACITY SLIDE.
THE ONE THAT SAYS "CAPACITY?"
06:12:20PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
YES.
06:12:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- YES, THIS SLIDE.
THE CAPACITY.
THE CAPACITY TO RESURFACE WITH CONTRACTORS, TO ME THAT SEEMS
LIMITLESS.
WHY IS THAT $16 MILLION.
06:12:41PM >>VIK BHIDE:
A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY.
WHEN WE LOOK AT RESURFACING PROJECTS, WE COULD DO MUCH
LARGER CONTRACTS AND JUST DO DESIGN-BUILD.
A LOT OF TIMES, THOUGH, WE DO LEVERAGE OUR INHOUSE TEAM TO
DO INHOUSE DESIGN.
THAT IS ONE THING.
THE OTHER IS, THERE IS A START-UP TIME FOR A BROADER
PROGRAM.
YOU HEARD ME SAY IN THE PAST THAT WE NEED ABOUT $40 MILLION,
$42 MILLION A YEAR TO KEEP OUR ROADS IN GOOD SHAPE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IF WE GET $40 MILLION TODAY WE WILL BE
ABLE TO SPEND THAT.
THERE IS A START-UP TIME.
THIS $25 MILLION FOR THIS YEAR REPRESENTS SOME OF THAT AND
THE START-UP ITSELF.
WE CAN RAMP UP AND GET THAT INCREASE IF THERE IS
PROGRAMMATIC AVAILABLE.
TODAY RELATIVE TO OUR CAPACITY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO ON
TOP OF PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
WE HAVE PROJECTS LIKE WEST RIVER AND PALMETTO BEACH COMING
UP.
THAT IS OUR CAPACITY.
06:13:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT REALLY DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
WHAT -- WHY -- RESURFACE WITH CONTRACTORS.
WE COULD SIMPLY DO $100 MILLION.
06:13:51PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SO MOST OF THESE PROJECTS, RESURFACING
PROJECTS, REQUIRE SURVEY.
THEY REQUIRE DESIGN.
THEY REQUIRE CONSIDERATIONS A OFF VISION ZERO AND THINGS
LIKE THAT FOR REDESIGN.
THAT, ITSELF, HAS SOME START-UP TIME ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO IF YOU ARE ASKING, CAN WE GET A VERY LARGE DESIGN-BUILD
PROJECT INITIATED IN YEAR 1?
WE PROBABLY COULD.
BUT THAT WILL STILL TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO EXECUTE.
AND SO -- SO IF YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT CAPACITY FROM THAT
STANDPOINT, THEN, YES, WE HAVE MORE CAPACITY, BUT WE DO FROM
INHOUSE PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFY TO BE DONE THAT WE HAVE
ALREADY DESIGNED AND INITIATED AND HENCE THE $25 MILLION FOR
THIS FISCAL YEAR.
06:14:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT INTERNAL PROJECTS THAT WE WILL HAVE
EXTERNAL PEOPLE DO.
06:14:47PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES.
06:14:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS THE TRICK.
MY OTHER QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH SIDEWALKS.
06:14:53PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SURE.
06:14:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE YOU HAD
UP -- YEAH, THAT ONE.
SO I JUST HAVE TO ASK THIS.
WHERE IS THE MONEY FROM THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE IN THIS?
06:15:08PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SO, I CAN ANSWER THAT.
SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEES ARE BEING SPENT AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW
AND THAT NUMBER IS NOT AS HIGH AS YOU MIGHT THINK IT IS.
THEY ARE NOT COMPLICATED IN THIS; HOWEVER, SIDEWALK IN LIEU
FEES ARE BEING SPENT IN SEVERAL OF OUR CIP PROJECTS.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE CARRYOVERS UNDER SIDEWALKS WAS
LIKE $1 MILLION.
WE ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING TOGETHER A $2 MILLION DESIGN-BUILD
CONTRACT FOR THE SIDEWALK GAPS IDENTIFIED AS MANY THAT WE
CAN GET FROM $2 MILLION.
A LOT OF THAT WILL ALSO BE FUNDED BY SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEES.
AND JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE, WHEN WE MADE THAT POLICY CHANGE
THROUGH THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE SEVERAL YEARS BACK, IT
ACTUALLY WORKED IN THAT WE ARE SEEING CONTRACTORS BUILD MORE
SIDEWALKS.
AS A CONSEQUENCE FROM JANUARY TO DATE, WE MAYBE COLLECTED
ABOUT $160,000 SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEES.
NOT THAT MUCH MONEY BECAUSE THE COST IS $1 MILLION A MILE.
06:16:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
06:16:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN COUNCILMAN --
06:16:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I KNOW YOU ARE TALKING OF DOLLARS AND PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE,
HOW MANY MILES ARE WE DOING WITH THOSE DOLLARS?
06:16:29PM >>VIK BHIDE:
A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE.
IF WE HAVE $2 MILLION.
WE CAN DO TWO MILES -- TWO MILES OF SIDEWALK A YEAR.
THAT IS NEW SIDEWALK.
WE ARE ALSO DOING A LOT OF SIDEWALK REHAB AND REPLACEMENT OF
PANELS OF EXISTING SIDEWALK.
AND THAT WE ARE USING $ 700,000 FROM PARKING.
WE ARE USING -- WE CAN NOT USE IN LIEU FEES FOR THAT, SORRY,
AND USING OPERATING AND CAPITAL FUNDS.
06:17:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT I AM SEEING RECENTLY.
I WAS DRIVING THROUGH CLEVELAND -- NOT OHIO BUT CLEVELAND
STREET AND ALL THE SIDEWALKS WERE SHAVED WHERE THERE WERE
SOME UNBALANCES.
I NOTICED THAT IN WEST TAMPA.
PALMETTO STREET WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS SHAVED.
I DROVE AROUND, LOOKED AROUND, AND AMAZING HOW SIDEWALKS
MOVE BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.
PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
THEY DO MOVE.
06:17:24PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE THAT GRINDING PROGRAM.
AND IN THE BACK OF IT, WE COME WITH THE PANEL REPLACEMENT
WHERE GRINDING ISN'T ENOUGH BUT WE COVERED HALF THE CITY IN
ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.
SO WE THINK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS WE WILL BE DONE WITH
THE WHOLE CITY.
06:17:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE SEEN IT IN MANY PLACES.
06:17:41PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU.
06:17:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN AND THEN VIERA.
06:17:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO SECRET THAT I HAVE BEEN PUSHING HARD
CONTINUE TO PAVING.
STREETCAR NUMBER ONE.
PAVING NUMBER TWO.
VICE VERSA DEPENDING ON HOW I WAKE UP IN THE MORNING.
WHAT I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING OF THE RESOURCES.
YOU KNOW, 40 MILLION JUST TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY
HAVE.
THAT IS NOT NEW AND IMPROVED BUT KEEPING UP WITH THE GENERAL
MEAT NANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
$4.7 MILLION IN THE BUDGET, HOW WOEFULLY INADEQUATE IT IS TO
MAINTAIN.
THAT IS WHY MY ONLY ASK OF ALL OF THE BUDGET -- MY ONLY WAS
TO INCREASE THE PAVING BUDGET AND IT FELL ON DEAF EARS.
DIDN'T GET A DAMN PENNY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION WHEN
SUBMITTED THE BUDGET -- I AM LOOKING AT YOU.
[LAUGHTER]
SO IT -- IT IS DISAPPOINTING.
I MEAN AT THE RISK OF SAYING GOING THROUGH SECOND READING
AND GOING THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE'S BUDGETS AND STARTS
PROPOSING CUTS TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, BUT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME
-- SAY YOU HAVE A CAPACITY.
QUESTION OF YOUR CAPACITY.
I AM KIND OF LEANING TOWARD THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK IS SAYING.
I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THE DESIGN AND PROJECTS.
I NEED PAVEMENT ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT ARE
CRUMBLING UNDER PEOPLE'S FEET.
NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
THAT YOU DISCOVERED BRINGING THE STUFF INHOUSE, DOESN'T
REQUIRE STUDYING OR SURVEYING AND REQUIRES PUTTING ASPHALT
DOWN ON THE STREETS BEFORE THEY LITERALLY WASH OUT FROM
UNDERNEATH.
KIDS, PLAYING.
SO I -- WE NEED -- WE NEED AS A CITY TO BE HITTING CLOSER TO
THAT GOAL OF AT LEAST MAINTAINING THE WHAT WE HAVE,
INCLUDING OUR STREETS.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE
IN OUR PARKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WHY I HAVE BEEN
SUPPORTIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION'S AGENDA AND INCREASE
REVENUES KEEP UP WITH THAT.
BUT SOMEWHERE IN THIS BUDGET, WE NEED TO FIND MONEY TO PAVE
THE STREETS.
NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
NOT BIG PROJECTS.
JUST PAVING PEOPLE'S STREETS.
THEY EXPECT THAT.
WE ARE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY IN TAXES TO LIVE HERE.
A GREAT CITY.
IT IS JUST A BASIC NEED.
WE ARE DOING VERY WELL OF PROVIDING PEOPLE CLEAN WATER.
WE ARE DOING WELL TAKING THEIR DIRTY WATER OUT OF THEIR
HOUSE.
OUR POLICE ARE INCREDIBLE JOB.
OUR FIRE IS DOING INCREDIBLE JOB.
WOEFULLY BEHIND IN TRANSPORTATION.
WOEFULLY BEHIND IN STREET PAVING.
I WOULD URGE -- I DON'T THINK YOU WANT ME GO WITH A HATCHET
OF MONEY.
ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO COME UP WITH PROPOSALS OF HOW TO
REPRIORITIZE TO FIX THE PAVING DEFICIT AND AT LEAST GET TO
THE BASIC NEEDS OF WHAT IT TAKES TO KEEP UP WITH EVERYTHING.
06:20:44PM >>VIK BHIDE:
IF I CAN ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT YOU
MENTIONED.
FIRST, ON THE GAS TAX BUDGET THAT IS DISMAL.
THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT.
THAT IS BECAUSE GAS TAX IS WHAT FUNDS OF TRANSPORTATION, THE
PAVING BUDGET IS LESSER.
I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, WE HAVE BRIDGES, WE HAVE STREET
LIGHTS, WE HAVE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
ALL COME IN THE SAME BUDGET.
THOSE ARE EQUALLY CRITICAL -- WELL, THAT -- THAT IS SUBJECT
TOO YOUR PRIORITIES AS THE FIRST.
BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE IS ALL OF THESE OTHER
PROGRAMS AS WELL THAT ARE ESSENTIAL.
AND -- AND NEEDED FOR THE CITY.
AND AS FAR AS, AGAIN, INHOUSE PAVING TEAM, IT IS THE SAME
CALCULUS.
IF WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF OUR IN-HOUSE PAVING TEAM.
THEY HAVE ALREADY SHOWN SIGNIFICANT RESULTS.
YOU SEE IT OUT THERE.
WE ARE FOCUSING MAINLY ON NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT IS THE SAME THING.
WE WILL NEED MORE FACILITIES.
WE WILL NEED MORE PLACES AND OFFICES FOR -- TO HOUSE THESE
PEOPLE SO A BALANCE TO BE STRUCK BETWEEN WHAT WE CAN
CONTRACT AND WHAT WE CAN BRING IN-HOUSE.
06:21:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND WE
GOT TO DO BETTER AND LOOK TOWARD THE ADMINISTRATION OF
FINDING THAT BEFORE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND FIND IT
OURSELVES.
I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD AND WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION
FROM TIME TO TIME, YOU MENTIONED BRIDGE, THE BRIDGES IN
TAMPA ARE SAFE.
06:22:08PM >>VIK BHIDE:
STRUCTURALLY TOWN.
06:22:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BRIDGES ARE SAFE.
FAIRLY GOOD QUALITY OF BRIDGES.
SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF, WE HAVE TO THINK OF THE WANTS
VERSUS THE NEEDS.
AND THE NEEDS ARE GREAT.
AND I -- AGAIN, I APPLAUD YOU ON TAKING THE INITIATIVE OF
THE IN-HOUSE PAVING WITH THAT SAVING.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS AND SEEN THIS AND
MISREPORTED IT AT THE TIME.
SHOCKING, BUT THE GROWTH OF PERSONNEL.
WHEN YOU HEAR THIS, THAT WE ARE BRINGING IN-HOUSE PAVING
TEAM.
GUESS WHAT, WE MAY HAVE TO HIRE A COUPLE OF EMPLOYEES.
WE TOOK OVER THE WASTE MANAGEMENT PLANT, WHICH BROUGHT OUR
EMPLOYEES UP.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE CITY OF TAMPA IS HIRING ALL THESE
PEOPLE.
GUESS WHAT, SAVING PEOPLE.
SAVING MONEY.
SO WHEN THE MAN STANDING BEFORE US AT THE DAIS TODAY TALKS
OF BRING IN-HOUSE.
EMPLOYEES AND SAVING TAXPAYER MONEY.
DON'T BE COMING SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND SAY YOU ADDED
THREE FTEs.
TAXPAYER MONEY.
06:23:08PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WITH PAVING, 100% SAVINGS ON THE ULTIMATE
PROJECT.
06:23:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
APPRECIATE THAT.
KEEP IT UP.
06:23:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:23:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I AM -- I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING TO TALK.
I WILL SAVE MY COMMENTS UNTIL AFTERWARDS, BECAUSE I HAVE A
LOT TO SAY.
THIS IS WHAT I WILL SAY BUILDING ON WHAT COUNCILMAN
CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT WITH REVENUE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT -- I WILL SAY IT VERY BRIEFLY, WE ARE
LOOKING AT TAKING PARTS OF THE BUDGET FOR OTHER THINGS LIKE
ROAD REPAVING, FIRE AND DIFFERENT THINGS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT
OF REVENUE CHALLENGES HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
I PROPOSE A SMALL.3 MILLAGE INCREASE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CIT.
TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM THE COLLECTION.
AND IF WE DON'T -- I WILL SAVE THAT FOR LATER.
BUT I DID WANT TO HAVE A QUESTION, BECAUSE I DID JUST TALK
TO THE FOLKS OVER AT -- AT TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, DISTRICT
2 AND STATION 13 ON THE 30s.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
THAT IS ALREADY FUNDED FOR LAST YEAR.
IT IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THIS YEAR, CORRECT?
30th STREET.
06:24:18PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES, 30th STREET IS FUNDED VIERA VIRUS I WANTED
TO MAKE SURE WHEN I SAW THEM A FEW DAYS AGO.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY JUST FOR Y'ALL -- FOR MR. BHIDE.
YOU DO A GOOD JOB AND WELL PREPARED AND A PLEASURE TO WORK
WITH.
AND FOR MISS KAPESKY, YOU ARE NEW.
I WANT TO SAY -- AND SPEAKING FOR ALL OF US, YOU ARE DOING A
GREAT JOB.
I AM SURE ALL COUNCIL BELIEVES -- I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN
CLENDENIN IS THE ONE THAT MOTIONED TO CREATE THIS POSITION,
IF I RECALL.
YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB.
YOU ARE ALWAYS PREPARED AND YOU ARE DOING GOOD JOB.
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.
06:24:58PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SHE KEEPS HER PENCILS SHARPENED.
I KNOW YOU SAY WELL PREPARED.
ON 30th, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, THE SOUTHERN SECTION IS
FUNDED.
THE NORTHERN SECTION FOR FY '25.
BOUGANVILLA TO BUSCH IS FUND AND BOUGANVILLA UNTIL FOWLER
IS FY '25.
06:25:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THE STATION WHERE STATION 13 AND DISTRICT 2
ARE IS ALREADY FUNDED.
06:25:27PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES.
06:25:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:25:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THIS.
AND I WILL SAVE MOST OF MY COMMENTS TO LATER, BUT JUST TO
ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE I
HEAR ABOUT.
AND I HAVE BEEN COUNCIL FOR FIVE YEARS.
I HAVE BEEN HEAVILY PUSHING THIS FOR FIVE YEARS.
TWO YEARS AGO I VOTED AGAINST THE ENTIRE $2.18 BILLION
PROJECT BECAUSE THE ROAD REPAIR WAS ONLY $1.4 MILLION.
I NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD ONLY USE GAS TAX
FOR ROADS.
THE LAST YEAR, I THINK MAYBE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN MADE THE
MOTION BUT WE ALL AGREED THAT PARKING SIGNAGE MONEY WILL BE
MOVED OVER AND THAT INCREASED TO $7 MILLION AND WE NEED MORE
THAN THAT FOR BASIC MAINTENANCE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE COMPLAINING EVERY DAY THAT THEY PAY A LOT IN
TAXES AND THEIR ROADS ARE FALLING APART.
AND I KNOW FROM WHAT HAPPENS FROM DAYS LIKE TODAY, THE ROADS
THAT HAVE BRICK UNDERNEATH.
THE WATER GETS UNDERNEATH AND TEMPERATURE CHANGES IT BUCKLES
UP THE ASPHALT AND POTHOLES EVERYWHERE.
A HUGE POTHOLE AT THE CORNER OF BAYSHORE AND GANDY AFTER THE
LAST RAIN A FEW DAYS AGO.
WE HAD THE GREAT RECESSION.
WHERE PAM IORIO CUT THE BUDGET BACK TO NOTHING.
TO CUT STAFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, KEPT THE -- KEPT THE CITY AFLOAT AND KEPT THE
RESERVES HIGH.
JUST NOW RESTORING IT TO THE SAME LEVEL THAT SHE CREATED.
WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT, THERE WAS A PUSH FOR NEW TAX.
AND THE PUBLIC BELIEVES THAT THE -- THAT THE ROAD REPAIR
BUDGET WAS KEPT ARTIFICIALLY LOW FOR EIGHT OR TEN YEARS
BECAUSE THEY WERE COMPELLED TO VOTE FOR THE ROAD TAX.
WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US, THEY DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON A TAX
OR WAIT ON THAT BECAUSE COULD 10 YEARS AWAY, THEY WANT THEIR
ROADS REPAIRED NOW.
WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO REFUND IT.
WE DON'T HAVE NEAR ENOUGH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO EVEN FUND THIS
YEAR'S ROAD REPAIR, AND WE NEED TO GO BACK THROUGH -- IF YOU
LOOK AT WHAT WAS NOT DONE, BECAUSE THE GREAT RECESSION AND
BECAUSE OF VANITY PROJECTS AND LACK OF ATTENTION.
WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF -- I THINK YOU SAID.
$2 BILLION OR MORE?
06:27:42PM >> $2 BILLION FOR ALL --
06:27:46PM >> WE HAVE -- WE HAVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON THESE ROADS.
WE I CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T CREATE THIS PROBLEM AND HAVE TO GO
BACK TO FIX THEM.
INSTEAD OF MAINTAINING MONEY FOR ONE YEAR, WE NEED MORE.
SO THE QUESTION I WILL ASK ADMINISTRATION.
CAN YOU PLEASE FIND MORE SO WE CAN CUT SOMETHING, BECAUSE
THIS IS THE THING THAT WE WILL HEAR MORE AND MORE COMPLAINTS
ABOUT.
AND NUMBER TWO, CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE
KIND OF CONFUSING.
CAN YOU CONFIRM AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, UP UNTIL TWO YEARS
AGO, THE BUDGET WAS THIS $4.1 MILLION ON THIS.
OUT OF A $1.8 BILLION BUDGET, STILL ONLY HAD $4.1 MILLION A
YEAR FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENT.
06:28:27PM >>VIK BHIDE:
MORE OR LESS $6 MILLION BECAUSE OTHER
CATEGORIES THAT HAVE PAVING.
A FRACTION OF THE $9 MILLION FOR LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX.
06:28:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND THE COUNCIL DID CREATE THE PROBLEM.
WE HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH CURRENT MAINTENANCE SO GOTTEN
WORSE.
EIGHT YEARS OF COMPLETE NEGLIGENCE, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO
FILL THE GAP AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT US TO INCREASE
TAXES.
FIND OTHER SOURCES.
WITHOUT US HAVING TO USE A SCHOOL.
I HOPE THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT WILL HELP US FIND
MORE MONEY TO PUT IN.
06:29:05PM >>VIK BHIDE:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF I CAN RESPOND TO A
COUPLE OF THINGS.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE CHAIRED THIS BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS.
BECAUSE THE CONDITIONS OF CITY ROADS ARE NOT GOOD TO BEGIN
WITH, THE RAINS DETERIORATE THE ROADS FASTER AND KEEPING UP
WILL REQUIRE EXTRA EFFORT ON EVERYONE'S PART.
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
YOU DID MENTION PARKING FINES THAT WERE APPLIED LAST YEAR.
AND I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THOSE FUNDS, THANKS TO
COUNCIL, AND UPDATED POLICY, HAVE YIELDED SIGNIFICANT
REVENUES TO THE PARKING DIVISION.
BUT IF COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER KEEPING THEM CONDITION WITH
THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF CONCERNS FOR POTENTIAL
STATE ACTION.
ILLEGAL IT AT THAT.
06:29:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:29:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NOW YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR OWN TAXES .WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
TAX, FROM THE PUBLIC ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
YOU REALIZE OUT OF THE THREE ENTITIES, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM,
THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, I PAY LESS TO THE CITY THAN I DO
FOR THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THEM, BUT TIME JUST SAYING WHAT IT IS.
I AM NOT PATTING OURSELVES ON THE BACK, BUT YOU HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOME OUTSIDE COSTS TO MAIN TANS THE
REPAIRING OF THE PIPES PROGRAM BEFORE REPAYING THE PIPES
PROGRAM WAS $30 TO $35 MILLION A YEAR THE LAST TIME -- WENT
FROM '18 TO 20 AND APPROACHING 30.
HAD TO BE DONE FOR $2.9 BILLION.
THAT FUNDED WITH 53% CASH.
THAT IS ON YOUR WATER BILL -- THEY CALL IT THE WATER BILL
BUT HAS EVERY BILL IN THERE.
WE CALLED IT THE WATER BILL BECAUSE EASY TO SAY, I GUESS.
THAT WILL CARRY US FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
AT THE ENDS, WE HAVE TO FUND THE OTHER 46% AS I UNDERSTAND.
THESE ARE THE THIS I THINK SO THAT ARE GOING.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENERGY PLANT $120 MILLION.
WHEN THAT GOES, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
I HOPE IT DOESN'T GO BEFORE THE OTHER ONE GETS HERE BECAUSE
IT WILL TAKE A YEAR AND A HALF TO GET ONE AND ARE WAITING
SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS NOW.
YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER BIG OPERATION WE HAVE, OVER 100
MILLION.
YOU HAVE TO YOU DO REPAIRS AS THEY ARE NEEDED AND BEYOND THE
EXTENSION OF NORMAL LIFE.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT TACKLED.
NOT GRAVY AND EVERYBODY IS HAVING RAH-RAH.
THINGS THAT WERE COSTING $1 THEN ARE $4 NOW, TALKING OF A
GAGS OF MILK.
GASOLINE IS NOT $.39 ANYMORE LIKE IT WAS WHEN I WAS A KID
AND THESE ARE THE THINGS ARE GOING ON.
A HOUSE THEY POUT FOR $13,000.
SELL IT FOR 450,000.
WHERE DO THEY GO?
THEY CAN'T GO ANYWHERE.
IF THEY SELL, SOMEBODY WON'T BUY FOR 12,8 OR.
THEREFORE YOU HAVE MORE PROBLEMS IN AFFORDABLE OF HOUSING.
EVERYTHING IS HITTING US AT ONCE.
NOT ONLY US, BUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
NOT HERE ALONE AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN.
IT GETS DIFFICULT, BUT THESE PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED IF WE
KEEP PLUGGING ALONG, THEY WILL BE SOLVED.
THAT IS ALL I WANT TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:32:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES?
06:32:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I KNOW NEXT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO INITIAL
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ALREADY
AND THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN WAITING.
I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION WE GO STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC COMMENT
AND THEN DO OURS AFTERWARDS.
06:32:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, THAT'S FINE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYTHING ELSE TO YOUR PRESENTATION, MA'AM?
06:32:43PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
WILL TAKE 30 SECONDS.
IF YOU BRING IT UP ONE MORE TIME.
JUST NEXT STEPS.
SO BASICALLY, JUST TO REITERATE, WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THE ADDITIONAL INTERNAL PAVING AT ABOUT $2 MILLION.
TO HIT THE $25 MILLION, YOU KNOW, THAT WE PUT FORWARD AS THE
CAPACITY, THERE IS THIS NEED TO CONTINUE TO FINISH OUT
BUYING WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $200 MILLION OF PAVING
EQUIPMENT.
ALSO -- YOU KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE GROUP TO DECIDE
IF WE WANT TO DO REALLOCATIONS AS A POINT OF PRIORITY.
ONCE WE GET OURSELVES AROUND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO,
MOBILITY WILL BE PROVIDING A LIST OF LOCATIONS BASED ON THAT
FINAL NUMBER.
AND JUST A POINT OF NOTE AS WELL, THE $2 MILLION, THAT
ASSUMES A 50/50 MIX OF NEW SIDEWALK AND REPAIR.
IF -- IF THE GROUP HAD DECIDED WE WANTED TO LEAN IN HARDER,
A COST DIFFERENTIAL AND LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF MILEAGE THAT
WILL BE DONE.
ALL RIGHT.
THAT IS ENOUGH FOR TODAY.
06:33:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO PER REQUEST HERE BY COUNCIL, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC
COMMENT.
WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE.
I WILL START WITH THEM AND THEN GO WITH THE FOLKS IN THE
ROOM.
MICHELLE COOKSON, IF YOU ARE ON.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
MICHELLE COOKSON.
IS SHE ON?
ALL RIGHT, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU.
WE HAVE ZIDIR SHAW.
06:34:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO; YES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:34:33PM >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
06:34:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
06:34:40PM >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
HI, MY HOME IS TAMPA AND I LIVE DOWN THERE AND WITH THE
CITY.
JUST YESTERDAY AFTER ISSUES PER WEEK, THE CAR BROKE DOWN
AGAIN.
OKAY, WAS RESPONSIBLE.
AND THE ONLY WAY SOME PEOPLE RELY ON HART AND NUMBER ONE,
WHAT HART IS.
STRUGGLING TO PAY THE RENT THAT IS A HUGE BURDEN.
A ONE-CAR HOME.
AS TAMPA CONTINUES TO GROW, WE MUST ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF
RESIDENTS.
AND UTILIZE OF THE ASPECTS OF TRANSPORTATION.
THE CITY IS NOT ONLY FOR SERVING ALL THE CITIZENS, BUT OUR
COUNTY AS WE NEED AND HAVE A DESIRE FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT.
SO MANY RESIDENTS.
[INAUDIBLE]
06:36:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ZUDIR SHAW.
06:36:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
IF YOU ARE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC.
PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
06:36:51PM >> LINDA OLSON.
HI THERE.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND CITY
COUNCIL FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT OF THE ORGANIZATION I RUN
TAMPA BAY WAVE.
AND OUR MISSION TO MAKE TAMPA BAY THE BEST PLACE TO GROW A
TECHNOLOGY-BASED ABOUT IS IN THE U.S.
WHEN I STARTED WAVE AS A MEET-UP GROUP IN 200, THE ONLY
HEADLINES WAS WIKIPEDIA RELOCATING OUT OF TAMPA BAY AND THE
POTENTIAL BRAIN DRAIN IN OUR REGION.
AS A TAMPA BAY NATIVE AND FOUNDER OF MY OWN START-UP AT THE
TIME, I HAD A FRONT-ROW SEAT TO THE ISSUES PLAGUING OUR
COMMUNITY AND THESE START-UPS MORE THAN A LACK OF INVESTMENT
CAPITAL.
NO ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE OF
THESE START-UPS IN SOLVING THE PROBLEMS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AS MOST OF YOU KNOW THANKS TO THIS INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY, WE
LANDED OUR FIRST-EVER FEDERAL GRANT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA AND LAUNCHED WAVE AN OFFICIAL
ORGANIZATION IN ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS IN 2013.
BARELY A DECADE LATER, I AM PROUD TO TALK OF OUR RESULTS AND
ACCOMPLISHMENTS INCLUDING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH
550-PLUS START-UPS AND WE ADD 50 TO 60 NEW START-UPS
ANNUALLY.
THESE COMPANIES DO THIS DESPITE HAVING LESS THAN A 5%
SENTENCE RATE INTO OUR PROGRAMS.
WE HAVE 200 PLUS VETTED VOLUNTEER MENTORS, 500 INVESTORS.
AND I AM PROUD TO TELL YOU WE ARE NICKELS AND DIMES AWAY
FROM BREAKING AN INCREDIBLE METRIC.
$1 BILLION IN CAPITAL RAISED BY WHAT WE SUPPORT.
PUTTING US IN ONE OF THE TOP FIVE PROGRAMS IN THE U.S.
AND SPEAKING OF ROI TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, OUR PROGRAMS HAVE
AN ANNUAL IMPACT IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS,
INCLUDING OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY JUST IN TERMS
OF TRAFFIC THAT WE BRING TO THE AIRPORT AND THE HOTELS IN
OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE HELPED MORE THAN TWO DOZEN COMPANIES RELOCATE HERE
AND BEST OF ALL, CREATING 5200 JOBS AND COUNTIES.
ORGANIZATION IS GENERALLY FUNDED BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY
AND A MEMBER OF CORPORATE BACKERS, INDIVIDUAL DONORS AND, OF
COURSE, FEDERAL GRANTS WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY BUILDING --
$5 MILLION OF FEDERAL GRANTS INTO THIS COMMUNITY AS WE
STARTED.
WE HAVE THREE ACTIVE FEDERAL GRANTS RIGHT NOW AND JUST
APPLIED TO ANOTHER $15 MILLION FEDERAL GRANT THAT WILL RUN
FOR FOUR YEARS AND WE HOPE WE ARE SUCCESSFUL.
WITH YOUR SUPPORT, THESE ARE NOT POSSIBLE, BUT YET WE NEED
ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT SO WE CAN CONTINUE ADMINISTERING THE
GRANTS THAT WE HAVE AND PUT US IN A PLACE TO ACCEPT
ADDITIONAL FEDERAL GRANT.
WE WANT TO DO THIS SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO GROW THE
INNOVATION-BASED ECONOMY HERE IN THE REGION AND CREATE
PATHWAYS TO HIGH-WAGED JOBS AND FINANCIAL AN INDEPENDENCE SO
WE HAVE A VIBRANT BASED ECONOMY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT AND ASK YOU TO CONSIDER
AN INCREASE.
06:40:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SULING, MISS LUCAS.
IS THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL ON WHO REGISTERED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
06:40:21PM >> GOOD EVENING, HI, MY NAME IS MIDA MARTINEZ.
EVERYBODY KNOWS ME AS MIMI.
I LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT FUNDING FOR HART.
I SEE THE HART BUS GO UP AND DOWN THAT CORRIDOR EVERY DAY.
SIGH HE IT TAKE RESIDENTS DOWNTOWN.
POINTS OF DESTINATION ON NEBRASKA, WINN-DIXIE, PUBLIX, TAMPA
PUBLIC HEALTH CENTER AND THE NEW E.R. TAMPA AND NEBRASKA
AVENUE.
IT SHOW THAT IS BUS SERVICE DOES WORK.
AND WE NEED MORE OF THAT.
JUST TO GIVE YOU PERSONAL INSIGHT OF MY EXPERIENCE USING THE
BUS SYSTEM.
I AM ORIGINALLY FROM MASSACHUSETTS.
WHEN I LIVED UP THERE, I DIDN'T HAVE A CAR FOR MANY YEARS
BECAUSE THAT BUS COULD TAKE ME TO SCHOOL.
TAKE ME TO COLLEGE.
TOOK ME TO WORK.
TOOK ME TO MY DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, TO THE MOVIES AND THE
MALL.
I USED THE BUS SYSTEM FOR A LONG TIME.
I LIVED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I COULD WALK WHATEVER I
NEEDED FOR THAT DAY AND FOR THE WEEK.
THE FIRST THING I NOTICED WHEN I MOVED TO TAMPA, IS THAT YOU
HAD TO HAVE A CAR.
NUMBER ONE, IT'S HOT.
AND THERE IS NOWHERE TO WALK TO GET YOUR DAILY NEEDS MET,
BECAUSE EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE VERY SPREAD APART.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CAR.
NUMBER TWO, THE BUS SERVICE HERE TAKES FOREVER TO GET TO
WHERE YOU WANT TO GET TO, BECAUSE THINGS ARE SO SPREAD
APART.
NUMBER THREE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS DID NOT HAVE A MAIN STREET
AND DID NOT HAVE CORNER STORES.
I AM JUST SO VERY USED TO BEING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I
CAN WALK AND DO EVERYTHING THAT I NEEDED TO DO.
SO -- I DO UNDERSTAND THAT EQUITY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I DO FEEL LIKE $1.5 MILLION FOR THIS PILOT PROGRAM FOR ROUTE
1 IS THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT WE CAN GRAB FOR NOW.
IT IS A PILOT.
SO LET'S SEE WHAT THE STUDY SHOWS AND SEE IF IT IS
SUCCESSFUL.
IF IT IS, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY PILOT IT TO OTHER AREAS IN
TAMPA.
NEBRASKA AVENUE WOULD BE GREAT.
SO I DO SUPPORT THAT.
AND I LOOK TO YOU AS THE PIONEERS TO BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO TAKE
THAT FIRST STEP.
WE DO NEED TO FUND HART.
IT IS A FORM OF EQUITY TO PROVIDE BUS TRANSPORTATION.
THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT CAN GIVE OUT FREE BUS TICKETS AND
FREE MONTHLY PASSES.
I HAVE BEEN A RECIPIENT OF THAT ONE TIME IN LIFE.
AND I DO KNOW THAT IT WORKS AND IT IS FAIR.
THE SECOND THING I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR
BRINGING UP THOSE NONPROFITS AND BRING NAG INTO THE
SUNSHINE.
BECAUSE I PERSONALLY KNOW SOMEONE IN MY AREA WHO WAS AN
INCUBATOR FOR ABOUT 200 NONPROFIT CHRISTIAN MINISTRIES THAT
PROVIDE RESOURCES TO VM YBOR AND YBOR HEIGHTS RESIDENTS IN
THE LOCAL AREA.
LET'S ROTATE THAT OUT TO THE MOM AND POPS ORGANIZATIONS
MAKING A IMPACT AND DIFFERENCE IN OUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:43:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER.
06:43:12PM >> GOOD EVENING, BOBBY CREIGHTON.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON SUPPORT OF FUNDING OF THE PILOT PROGRAM
FOR HART.
THE $1.5 MILLION.
I GREW UP IN THE TAMPA AREA.
KIND OF CARROLLWOOD, CITRUS PARK KIND OF AREA.
AND I WILL ADMIT, THAT I HAD A CERTAIN STIGMA IN MY OWN
HEART OR MIND ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND THE
BUS.
IT WAS JUST FOREIGN TO ME GROWING UP HERE.
NOT SOMETHING THAT I REALLY INTERACTED WITH MUCH BECAUSE YOU
NEEDED A CAR WHERE I LIVED.
IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I EXPERIENCED.
THAT CHANGED WHEN I DIDN'T HAVE A CAR AND LIVED IN A CITY
WHERE IT WAS IMPRACTICABLE TO HAVE ONE AND I TOOK THE BUS
AND THE DRAIN EVERYWHERE.
THE BUS WAS MY LIFELINE, AND THAT REALLY SHOOK THAT STIGMA.
BROKE IT TOTALLY APART.
I SAW PEOPLE ON THE BUS.
HARVARD PROFESSORS WITH CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, MOTHERS WITH
THEIR CHILDREN, STUDENTS.
I SAW ALL MATTER OF PEOPLE, ALL PARTS OF THE SPECTRUM OF
SOCIETY ON THAT BUS AND MADE ME UNDERSTAND THIS IS A
LIFELINE.
THIS IS CRITICAL.
I AM USING.
SOMETHING THAT GIVES VALUE TO ME AND IT GIVES VALUE TO SO
MANY OTHER PEOPLE AND I SUPPORT MANAGING THAT MORE
ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
I ALSO THINK OF MY PATIENTS AND CLIENTS INFORM MY
PROFESSIONAL LIFE, I WORK WITH PEEP WITH DISABILITIES EVERY
DAY AND MOSTLY ACQUIRED DISABILITIES.
A STROKE OR A BRAIN INJURY OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT AFFECTS
THEIR COGNITION AND THEIR MOBILITY.
THEY ARE UNABLE TO GET AWAY WITHOUT A CAREGIVER OR FAMILY TO
DRIVE THEM SOMEWHERE.
HAVING ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION LIKE A BUS OR A TRAIN, IN
THIS CASE THE BUS, THAT IS FREEDOM.
THAT IS THEIR ABILITY TO GET WHERE THEY NEED TO GO WITHOUT
HAVING TO RELY ON SOMEBODY DRIVING THEM IN A CAR.
WE HEARD DURING THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE
SUCCESS OF THE STREETCAR.
I THINK THIS PARTICULAR ROUTE IS VERY COMPLIMENTARY TO THAT.
I AM NOT GOING TO REHASH ANYTHING THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER
MENTIONED.
SOME REALLY GOOD FACTS THERE.
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS MOBILITY, IT IS ECONOMIC MOBILITY,
SOCIAL MOBILITY.
AND FREEDOM FOR PEOPLE THAT REALLY, REALLY NEED IT,
ESPECIALLY IN OUR UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.
I WILL LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE AND YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.
AND I WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT THE PILOT PROGRAM AND LET'S SEE
HOW IT GOES.
06:45:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
06:45:34PM >> HUMAIRA AFZAL.
MANY OF YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT I RIDE MY BIKE HERE.
SAME WHEN I GO TO COUNTY COMMISSION.
NOW IT IS RAINING OUT.
IF THERE WAS A BUS I COULD FOLD UP MY SCOOTER AND TAKE THE
BUS HOME.
BUT I WILL BE STUCK WAITING.
I'M HERE WITH OTHERS TO ASK TO YOU COMMIT THE $1.5 MILLION
TO MAKE BUS ROUTE 1 FARE-FREE.
TAMPA IS DECADES BEHIND MANY CITIES WHEN TO COMES TO PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION.
AND TAMPA IS BEHIND MANY DEVELOPING COMPANIES WHEN IT COMES
TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
1929 I LIVED IN PAKISTAN RESEARCHING.
I NEVER DROVE.
NINE MONTHS.
TOOK PUBLIC BUSES.
I GOT WHEREVER I NEEDED TO GO ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE GIVEN ALL KINDS OF REASONS FOR NOT
WANTING TO SPEND CITY DOLLARS ON A BUSES ASSERTING THAT HART
AND THE COUNTY NEEDS TO INVEST MORE.
IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU CONTEND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND THE FUND SHOULD
GO TO FIXING POTHOLES AND A ZERO SUM GAME AND PUT MONEY MOO
BUSES OF TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS.
DON'T USE "WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY "OR "WE NEED TO FIX
THE POTHOLE FIRST" AS EXCUSES.
THOSE ARE POLICY CHOICES .NOT NATURAL LAW.
CHOICES YOU ARE MAKING.
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS A NECESSITY FOR A RESILIENT
THRIVING CITY.
WE ARE LITERALLY PAYING LOTS OF MONEY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
ANYTHING EVEN APPROACHING AN EFFICIENT, EFFECTIVE SYSTEM TO
GET PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED TO GO IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF
TIME.
WE NEED STRONG LEADERSHIP ON THIS AT THE CITY LEVEL -- THAT
MEANS YOU.
-- OR WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET OUT OF OUR TRANSPORTATION
MESS.
DECADES BEHIND.
NOW IS THE TIME TO START.
A SHORT LIST OF HOW WE ARE ALL PAYING.
ACCORDING TO AAA COSTS A NATURAL AVERAGE OF $12,000 A YEAR
-- THAT IS OVER -- $1,000 A MONTH TO OWN AND OPERATE A CAR.
IT IS $1,000 A MONTH THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SPEND BECAUSE THEIR
CAR DEPENDENT AND NO LIABLE MASS TRANSIT.
IS WOULD SAVE A TYPICAL FAMILY ABOUT $12,000 A YEAR.
THAT IS -- THAT IS MONEY THAT COULD BE SPENT ON OTHER
THINGS.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, BUSES, MEAN LESS ENVIRONMENTAL
HARM AND WE ALL KNOW CAR EMOTIONS PLAY A HUGE ROLE IN
CLIMATE CHANGE.
FLORIDA, EXCESSIVE HEAT, FLOODING, ALL OF THAT, FEWER
EMISSIONS MEANS BETTER AIR QUALITY.
WE ARE ALL PAYING THE PRICE FOR CLIMATE CHANGE.
REDUCE CONGESTION.
NOTHING NEW MERE.
PAYING WITH DECREASED QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE STRESS OF SITTING IN TRAFFIC.
BUT BUSES ARE KEY TO IMPROVING PUBLIC TRANSIT.
THEY ARE NOT APPRECIATED BECAUSE CITIES, STATE AND FEDERAL
LEADERS HAVE FAILED TO SUPPORT THEM AS A QUALITY PUBLIC
SERVICE FOR DECADES.
THEY INSTEAD SUNK BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO
BUILDING MORE AND MORE ROADS THAT JUST LEAD TO MORE CARS AND
TRUCKS AND MORE CONGESTION.
BUT A WELL PLANNED FULLY FUNDED BUS SYSTEM CAN BE SO MUCH
MORE.
PLEASE START WITH THIS AND DEDICATE THE $1.5 MILLION.
06:48:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME.
06:48:47PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
NATHAN HAGAN.
I'M HERE ADVOCATING FOR HOUSING AND HART FUNDING.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE BEEN HERE IN OVER SIX MONTHS BECAUSE --
BECAUSE AS ACTIVE AS I AM, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR REGULAR
PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A POLITICAL PROCESS DRIVEN BY
PUBLIC COMMENT RATHER THAN ELECTIONS.
NOW LIKE THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, I CAN NO
LONGER BALANCE MY PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL LIFE WITH THE
LEVEL OF POLITICAL ENGAGEMENT THAT IS NEEDED OR THAT I HAD
IN THE PAST.
THAT IS NOT A ME STORY.
IF WE HAVE ELECTIONS THAT REPRESENT MORE THAN 10% OF THE
VOTERS IN THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE COUNCIL MAY BENEFIT THE NEEDS OF THE CONSTITUENTS AT
LARGE.
MORE CLARITY WITH AT-LARGE SEATS WHAT WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE
AND THAT WORK WILL BE MOVED QUICKLY.
LOOKING AT THE DATA, HARD TO IMAGINE THE WAY TO SUPPRESS THE
VOTE BUT TO HAVE IT IN ODD YEARS.
I HOPE YOU CONSIDER COUNCILMAN VIERA'S PROPOSAL OF FUTURE
COMPLICATIONS OF KEEPING THE STATUS QUO.
WHAT DOES THIS DO WITH THE BUDGET?
FOR I'M HERE TO APPEAL TO THE VOTERS WHO DIDN'T VOTE AND
DESERVE A VOICE AND TOO OFTEN DO NOT HAVE ONE IN THIS
BUILDING.
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHOSE VOICES DON'T GET HEARD WANT MORE
MOVEMENT ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND TRANSPORTATION.
EVERY POLL AND OUTREACH EFFORT THAT DOESN'T DID TO
HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS WILL SAY THAT IS YOUR TOP
PRIORITIES.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE HISTORICAL
INVESTMENTS THAT WERE MADE LAST YEAR AND I ASK YOU TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TAMPA WILL GO FURTHER AND SHOULD GO
FURTHER.
MY OPINION THAT IT WILL RAISE THE MILLAGE RATE AND WE
DIDN'T.
IS IT DIDN'T COME UP THIS YEAR.
I KNOW WE NEED TO MAKE MORE INVESTMENT.
I ASK YOU TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BE HERE.
WHO CAN'T EVEN KNOW THEY SHOULD BE THERE AND INCREASE
HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION.
INVEST $10 MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR HOUSING $5 MILLION
FOR THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
$175 MILLION FOR FREE FARE TRANSIT OPTIONS ON FLORIDA
AVENUE.
I THINK OF THIS AS A DOWNPAYMENT FOR CITYWIDE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE REVENUE SHOWERS IS.
WE NEED TO TALK OF CITYWIDE AND BEFORE THAT, GO TO PRECOVID
SERVICE LEVELS FOR THE TAMPA TRANSIT NETWORK AS WELL.
THAT COSTS MONEY.
WE NEED TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT AS A CITY FOR CITY BUS
SERVICE.
AND THEN WHILE WE ARE AT IT, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
WE ARE WITH A REVENUE PROBLEM.
A REVENUE PROBLEM.
NOT A SPENDING PROBLEM.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERS THAT THERE IS
A RAMPANT CORRUPTION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE.
WE NEED TO MAKE A PAINFUL POLICY CHOICES TO ADDRESS HOUSING
AND TRANSPORTATION, AND WE NEED TO INCREASE REVENUE.
IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WITH THE MILLAGE INCREASE, WE
WILL NEVER, EVER DO THAT FOR THE REST OF TIME.
THE ONLY WAY -- THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY FOR YOU TO INCREASE
REVENUES WITHOUT TAX IS THROUGH DENSE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THINK ABOUT THAT WITH THE CAMP PLAN.
06:51:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:51:59PM >> HELLO, DAYNA LAZARUS.
ZIP CODE 33065.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SAD ROTATE FOR HOUSING AND PRIMARILY FOR
PUBLIC TRANSIT.
I AM ADVOCATING FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO USE
IT.
AND THOSE WHO ALREADY USE IT.
HART HAS A RIDERSHIP OF 40,500 PEOPLE PER DAY.
THIS IS AN EQUITY ISSUE.
WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT TO BE FUNDED AND
PRIORITIZED FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
CHLOE CONEY SAID TO ME WHEN I HAD WORKED AT THE TPO IN 2018,
YOU CAN TELL HOW MUCH THE CITY CARES OF ITS POOR PEOPLE BY
HOW IT TREATS THE BUS SYSTEM.
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN YOUR DISTRICT WHO RELY ON THE BUS TO GET
GROCERIES, MEDICAL CARE AND SO MUCH MORE.
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, SENIORS AND WORKERS.
AND THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO WOULD USE THE BUS IF
IT WAS VIABLE IF IT CAME FREQUENTLY.
I WOULD DITCH MY CAR AND I WOULD USE THE BUS.
AND I WANT THAT.
JUST LIKE I HAD IN PORTLAND, OREGON WHEN I LIVED THERE.
JUST LIKE YOU HAVE IN EUROPE WHEN YOU VISIT.
SO WE ARE ADAMANTLY ASKING FOR $5.1 MILLION TO MAKE ROUTE 1
FARE-FREE.
WE WERE ASKING FOR $10 MILLION.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GETTING THOSE E-MAILS.
BUT WE WANT $10 MILLION, $20 MILLION, $40 MILLION, $80
MILLION, $100 MILLION.
WE NEED TO FUND PUBLIC TRANSIT AND WE ARE HERE TODAY TO
DEMONSTRATE THERE IS A DEMAND.
THERE IS SUPPORT FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND WE DON'T MIND ASKING FOR IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE IS A
RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT.
THAT IS 4:1.
FOR EVERY $1 INVESTED.
$4 IS GENERATED IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
ROUTE 1 HAS THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP IN THE COUNTY AND THE
CITY RIVALING NEBRASKA.
THE ROUTE ON NEBRASKA IS GREAT BECAUSE IT HAS SOME BUS-ONLY
AREAS.
FLORIDA ON THE OTHER HAND DOESN'T.
AND IT IS ALWAYS LATE.
SO MOVING UP THAT FREQUENCY FROM 20 MINUTES TO 15 MINUTES
WILL MAKE UP A BIG DIFFERENCE AND IMPROVING THE TRIP
RELIABILITY.
THE ONE GOES BY CITY HALL.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE COULD BE HERE IF THEY COULD
JUST HOP ON THE BUS AN NOT HAVE TO WORRY OF FARE OR
NAVIGATING PARKING TO ADVOCATES FOR THEIR NEEDS AND WHAT
THEY WANT THE BUDGET SPENT ON.
THIS KIND OF THING.
IF WE DO THIS RIGHT AND FUND ROUTE 1 SAND GO FARE-FREE, CAN
BE HUGE FOR TAMPA.
TINY BABY STEP OF SHOWING OUR CITY PUBLIC TRANSIT.
THE COMMITMENT THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
IS ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES.
AND ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES FOR AFFORDING AFFORDABILITY.
SORRY.
THIS CAN BE THE BEGINNING OF THE MULTIMODAL SYSTEM WITH A
STREETCAR, HART BRT, DEDICATED LANES, MOVING PREMIUM TRANSIT
DOWNTOWN.
THIS COULD CAN BE THE START OF SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL.
SO PLEASE INVEST $1.5 MILLION IN MAKING ROUTE 1 FARE-FREE.
THANK YOU.
06:55:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WEAKER.
06:55:11PM >> ALANA BRASIER, CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENT FOR MY ENTIRE 38
YEARS OF LIFE.
ALSO FORMER CITY OF TAMPA STAFF FOR THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT
WITH VISION ZERO COORDINATOR, CHIEF PLANNER, LETTER VISION
ZERO APPLICATION PECULIAR, OUR TAMPA MOVES PLAN.
EQUITY IS THE BACKBONE OF THE TAMPA MOVES PLAN.
PRIORITIZES ALL OF OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS INCLUDING
TRANSIT.
TRANSIT IS ONE OF THE MOST EQUITABLE WAYS A CITY AND A
COUNTY CAN INVEST IN ACTUALLY MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH THE
CITY.
GETTING PEOPLE TO JOBS.
I ENCOURAGE THIS ADMINISTRATION, THIS COUNCIL TO EXPLORE
WHAT OUR PEERS ARE DOING.
WHAT OUR OTHER, WHAT CHARLOTTE IS DOING TO SUPPORT IN
TRANSIT NETWORK.
TRANSIT AGENCY.
WHAT IS PORTLAND DOING.
WHAT IS RICHMOND DOING.
ALL THESE CITIES.
WE ARE NOT JUST IN A BUBBLE.
WE CAN LOOK WHAT OUR PARTNERS ARE DOING TO SEE HOW THEY ARE
INVESTING IN TRANSIT.
ONE OF THE MOST EQUITABLE WAYS TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS
GETTING AROUND.
AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
AS DEVELOPMENT IS BOOMING.
TRANSIT HAS TO BE A PRIORITY.
IN ADDITION TO RESURFACING AND SIDEWALKS, WE JUST WHOLE SALE
NEED TO TAKE A LOOK BOTH COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION HOW WE
ARE ACTUALLY PRIORITIZING THE MONEY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR
COMMUNITIES ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SAY SOMETHING IS OUR NUMBER
ONE PRIORITY.
WHERE IS THE BUDGET BACKING THAT UP.
THAT'S IT.
06:56:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:56:44PM >> TATIANA MORALES, 33606.
I ACTUALLY WANTED TO START WITH -- I WAS THINKING A LOT OF
ALL THE PROPOSALS AND WHAT WAS GOING ON.
START WITH A MLK QUOTE.
BUDGETS ARE A MORAL DOCTRINE.
YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CITIZENS AND
THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA WHEN YOU ARE STATING WHAT IS THE
REQUEST OF 1% OF THE BUDGET TO MAKE FARE-FREE AND MAKE
ACCESS TO TRANSIT FOR WHAT WOULD BE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
JUST REMEMBER THESE ARE MORAL DECISIONS YOU ARE MAKING OF
THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO I ACTUALLY WANTED TO START WITH WHY I GOT INTO ALL OF
THIS.
URBANISM, TRANSIT, ALL THESE THINGS.
SEVEN YEARS AGO MY DAD HAD A STROKE.
AND THREE WEEKS AGO, MY DAD ALSO HAD A STROKE.
WHEN YOU HAVE A STROKE, YOU CAN'T USE TRANSIT FOR HALF A
YEAR TO A YEAR.
I MEAN YOU CAN'T DRIVE.
SO YOU HAVE TO COMPLETELY REDEFINE HOW DO YOU GET AROUND.
MY DAD LIVING IN A SMALL TOWN OUT OF MIAMI COULDN'T GET
ANYWHERE.
COULDN'T DO ANYTHING.
FUNDAMENTALLY CUT OFF FROM THE SOCIETY AROUND HIM SPENDING
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF UBER AND OTHER OPTIONS.
WHY I GOT INTO IT.
I STARTED LOOKING IN WHY DON'T WE DO BETTER WITH PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES, OUR HOMELESS PEOPLE, ALL THE WORKING-CLASS
PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
IT TURNED INTO REALIZING THAT WE SPENT A VERY LONG TIME IN
THIS COUNTRY DISINVESTING IN TRANSIT.
DISINVESTING IN THE WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY.
RIGHT NOW IN THE RAIN, AT&T WORKERS ARE STRIKING BECAUSE
THEY WANT BETTER WAGES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I ONLY SEEN ONE OF YOU THERE.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, WHEN WE MAKE THE DECISIONS, WE TALK OF
THE FUTURE.
THE FIVE MINUTES SOMEONE WAITS FOR THE BUS IN A POURING
RAIN, IF THEY GET A JOB, GET TO WORK ON TIME, WHAT HAPPENS
TO THEIR FUTURE.
FARE-FREE IS MAKING THE FIRST STEP OF MEANINGFUL INVESTMENT.
IN MIAMI, I WAS ABLE TO ADVOCATE THAT THEY INCREASE THE
BUS SERVICE IN MY OWN HOMETOWN.
INCREDIBLE.
GOT MY DAD TO THE GROCERY STORE.
TO HIS HOSPITAL VISITS.
TO MANY JOBS.
NOW HE IS MAKING THE SAME DECISION -- HE IS IN REHAB.
I CAME UP EARLY TO COME ADVOCATE FOR THIS BECAUSE I WANT
THAT TO HAPPEN TO THE PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
THOSE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE EVERYWHERE.
DISABILITY CAN GET TO ANYONE AT ANY MOMENT.
IT BE HAPPEN TO YOU AT ANY MOMENT.
SO GOING BACK TO ROUTE 1 FARE-FREE.
STRIVING ISN'T -- I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK THAT
DRIVING IS THE OPTION THAT EVERYONE HAS.
BUT IT IS NOT AN OPTION FOR MANY, MANY PEOPLE, KIDS,
SENIORS.
DISABILITIES.
I RIDE THE BUS.
I RODE ROUTE 5, 6 AND 1 FREQUENTLY.
YOU SEE WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE.
PEOPLE WHO WORK AT HOSPITALS.
CHANGE BEDS.
PEOPLE WHO MOVE OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I HEARD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS OVER THIS YEAR, BUT I
WILL BE TALKING ABOUT PAVEMENT, PAVEMENT, PAVEMENT.
WE ARE DOING THAT.
I HEAR VIK COME WE ARE DOING.
WE ARE TRYING.
WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.
WE CAN REPAVE EVERY ROAD BUT DON'T CREATE THE BETTER
TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES THAT THIS CITY DESERVES LIKE
OTHER CITIES ST. PETERSBURG ARE DOING, WE WILL NEVER MOVE
FORWARD.
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, $5 MILLION FOR THREE YEARS TO PROVIDE
OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET THEM.
WE NEED TO SAY WE ARE MAKING THE RIGHT MORAL DECISIONS FOR
TAMPA THANK YOU.
06:59:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
06:59:55PM >> THIS IS REALLY FRUSTRATING --
07:00:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STATE YOUR NAME.
07:00:09PM >> SORRY, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I WANT TO TALK OF THE BUDGET BECAUSE THIS IS A BUDGET
MEETING.
I AM GOING TO GET UP HERE AND TALK OF THE BUS.
COMMONSENSE BE DAMNED.
VIK BHIDE, EVERY TIME I SEE HIM DO A PRESENTATION, HE SAYS
23% OF MOST FOLKS' INCOME IN THE CITY OF TAMPA GOES TO
TRANSIT.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE HART THE BUMP THAT IT NEEDS.
IN GENTLEMAN CAME UP HERE.
AND HE SAID THERE ARE 3,000 PEOPLE A DAY WHO ARE RIDING THAT
HARTline ON LINE 1.
1.1 MILLION A YEAR.
WHY ARE WE NOT CULTIVATING THIS?
WE SPENT 30 MINUTES DISCUSSING $2.9 MILLION.
CHARITABLE FUNDS THAT WILL NOT REACH THAT MANY DAMN PEOPLE.
IT WILL NOT REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS THIS BUS LINE WILL
REACH.
IT WILL NOT HELP AS MANY PEOPLE.
THEN MISS KOPESKY COMES UP HERE AND PUTS UP A SPREADSHEET
AND IT HAS THAT THE TROLLEY, THE STREET CAR, GETS $1.5
MILLION A YEAR.
AND THEY DID -- THEY DID A SURVEY IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO.
65% OF THOSE RIDERS ARE CITIZENS.
30% OF THEM ARE TOURISTS.
WHY IS THERE EVEN ANY QUESTION IN ANYBODY'S MIND UP THERE
THAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP THE IMPOVERISHED OF OUR CITY.
I HAVE A FRIEND.
HER DAUGHTER IS 27 YEARS OLD.
SHE HAD MULTIPLE SEIZURES.
SHE HAS LOST HER ABILITY TO DRIVE.
THEY GAVE DENNIS ROGERO DRIVER'S LICENSE BACK.
$900 A MONTH FOR HER INSURANCE.
SHE IS NEVER GOING TO DRIVE AGAIN.
BUT YET, EVERYBODY WHO IS SITTING UP THERE AND THE MAYOR
THINK THAT PUTTING $1.5 MILLION -- JUST 1%.
JUST A LITTLE TINY DOT -- THE EQUIVALENT OF ME HANDING
SOMEBODY $10 TODAY IS OFFENSIVE TO ANYONE ON THAT COUNCIL
BEFUDDLES ME.
YOU ARE GIVING UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OVER MILLION
PEOPLE IN ONE YEAR.
ONE YEAR, YOU CAN HELP A MILLION CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
EVERY DAY.
3,000 PEOPLE A DAY DURING THE WEEK.
YOU CAN DO THAT WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT IT.
BAM.
YOU ARE DONE.
YOU ARE THE GREATEST -- THE GREATEST POLITICIANS IN THIS
CITY BY PASSING IT, EVEN IF THE MAJOR THINKS IT IS A PI SS
POOR IDEA.
WHY?
WHY DOES SHE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN POVERTY?
WHY WOULD ANY OF YOU WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE IN POVERTY.
THINK ABOUT IT.
YOU SLEEP ON THAT TONIGHT.
07:02:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:02:50PM >> GOOD EVENING.
NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY SPEAK TODAY.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE BUDGET OFFICE AND CFO
DENNIS ROGERO.
THEY HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF ANSWERING OUR REQUESTS
PROMPTLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
AND THAT IS A GOOD FEELING KNOWING THAT THERE IS SOMEONE ON
THAT OTHER SIDE.
I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME CRITICAL CONCERNS REGARDING THE
FISCAL YEAR '25 BUDGET FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
FIRST, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, THE CAD SYSTEM.
IN FISCAL YEAR '22.
THE COUNCIL APPROVED $2 MILLION FROM THE ARPA MONEY TO
ENHANCE THE CAD SYSTEM; HOWEVER, OUR DISPATCH SOFTWARE IS
NEARLY A DECADE OUTDATED AND VEHICLE LOCATORS ARE STILL
ABSENT.
INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THESE ISSUE ARE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO
PROGRESS.
THE HIRING OF ANTI-UNION AT $995.
WE NEED TO UP C DATE THIS TECHNOLOGY.
FIRE STATION 24, IN 2022, $12 MILLION WAS APPROVED FOR
DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND PROCUREMENT OF NEW FIRE STATION 24.
THIS PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR
'23.
IN FISCAL YEAR '24, WITH THIS COUNCIL HERE, THERE WAS AN
ALLOCATED $1.6 MILLION AND $16 MILLION WERE ALLOCATED TO BE
SPENT IN FISCAL YEAR 25.
THE CURRENT RECOMMENDED BUDGET NOW ALLOWS ZERO DOLLARS FOR
THIS PROJECT.
TFR MAINTENANCE SHOP AND SUPPLY IN 2022.
CIP REFLECTED $12 MILLION ALLOCATED WITH THE COMPLETION
EXPECTED IN FISCAL YEAR '23; HOWEVER, IN FISCAL YEAR '24,
ADOPTED 1.2 MILLION WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THE TFR
MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY.
TODAY, THERE HAS BEEN NO PROGRESS IN FISCAL YEAR 25 SHOWS
ZERO DOLLARS FOR A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
IT IS CLEAR THAT THESE PROJECTS, ALTHOUGH AID PROVED AND
FUNDED REMAIN STALLED.
MY QUESTION TO COUNCIL, WHY ARE THESE ESSENTIAL PROJECTS NOT
RECEIVING.
ESSENTIAL PROJECTS NOT ADVANCING DESPITE THE FUNDS THAT HAVE
BEEN RECEIVED AND YOUR COMMITMENT AND APPROVAL.
IN REFERENCE TO THE OPERATING BUDGET, IN FISCAL YEAR '23,
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE BUDGET WAS $130 MILLION WITH $1.06 MILLION
UNUSED AND RETURNED TO THE GENERAL FUND.
WITH OUR CRITICAL NEEDS, WHY ARE WE NEARLY RETURNING 1% OF
OUR BUDGET?
IN CONCLUSION, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 744 SWORN FIRE FIGHTERS
AGAINST A BADGED 793, AND OPERATING WITH SIGNIFICANT
VACANCIES AND ARE NOT ABLE TO FILL VACANCIES INCLUDING
CLOSED APPLICATION PERIODS.
07:05:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
07:05:57PM >> THANK YOU.
07:05:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:06:00PM >> GOOD EVENING, MARY BETH WILLIAMS.
I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF, THE
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, FOR THE SUPPORT THAT FRIENDS OF THE
RIVERWALK HAS RECEIVED.
WE PROVIDE A VARIETY OF PROGRAMMING FOR THE TAMPA RIVERWALK
AND SERVICES TO THE CITY OF TAMPA WE HAVE MADE A FUNDING
REQUEST THIS YEAR AND SHARED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
AND OUR STAFF THE REASONING BEHIND OUR FUNDING REQUEST.
WE, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK YOU FOR OUR SUPPORT AND WORK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU COLLABORATIVELY THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU.
07:06:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
IF NOT, GO TO CITY COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
I WILL KICK IT OFF SINCE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN.
SO I HAVE HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUES AND I HEARD FROM THE
PUBLIC.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS THIS MILLION AND A
HALF DOLLARS FOR -- FOR ROUTE 1.
I THINK IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, IT IS A FANTASTIC MOTION
THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
IT WAS MENTIONED THAT HART HAS A BOARD MEETING ON MONDAY.
I DON'T KNOW -- WE HAVE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD HERE.
IF THAT WILL BE BROUGHT UP AND DISCUSSED.
IS THAT --
07:07:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I SENT AN E-MAIL TO MY AIDE, IF THIS PASSES I
WILL DO A MEMO REQUESTING THAT.
07:07:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
I SIT ON THE TAMPA HISTORIC STREETCAR BOARD.
AND BEFORE THAT -- NOW BEING ON THE BOARD AND SEEING THE
DATA COMING IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND THEY COME AND PRESENT TO
US, THEY KEEP IT GRANT FUNDING TO KEEP IT FARE-FREE.
AND IT IS CURRENTLY FARE-FREE.
IN THE PERIOD OF FARE-FREE AND THE STREETCAR SINCE I USED
SINCE IN COLLEGE -- YEAH, IN COLLEGE.
WE SEE RIDERSHIP IN RECORD NUMBERS.
AND NOT BECAUSE -- I HAVE RIDDEN IT ENOUGH.
NOT JUST TOURISTS.
I SEE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE AREA.
I SEE PEOPLE THAT GO FROM DOWNTOWN TO YBOR CITY BECAUSE THEY
DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR PARKING.
THEY ARE ALREADY HERE DOWNTOWN AS EMPLOYEES.
THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT REASONS.
THE FACT IS, IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
YOU LOOK AT THE HART BUS SYSTEM -- I USED THE BUS SYSTEM
MANY TIME.
WHERE I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA, I CAN CONVENIENTLY WALK TO THE
NEAREST CORNER AND TAKE ME TO THE BUS THAT WILL TAKE ME TO
THE MARION CITY TRANSIT CENTER.
HOW I GET TO CITY HALL.
I USED TO USE THE CURRIER, NOW I CAN WALK.
USE THE YELLOW UBERS.
IF THE WEATHER IS GOOD, I WILL WALK.
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS SUCH A CRITICAL NEED OF ANY
COMMUNITY.
IT IS EXPENSIVE TO OWN A CAR.
I PAY MONTHLY JUST UNDER $300 FOR CAR INSURANCE.
THEN I PAY FOR GAS.
AND THEN -- EVENTUALLY I WILL HAVE MY CAR PAID OFF.
I HAVE A CAR PAYMENT.
MAINTENANCE BILLS, SO MANY THINGS THAT COME WITH OWNING A
VEHICLE.
NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD THAT.
WE TALK OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
WE TALK OF THE PRICE OF GOOD.
EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP, THE VERY LEAST THAT I CAN DO.
I KNOW THERE IS A DEEPER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS MILLION AND A
HALF DOLLARS, BUT TO MAKE IT FARE-FREE, MY HOPE IS THAT
WATCH WILL HAPPEN WITH THE STREETCAR IS THAT IT WILL
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO RIDE THE BUS.
NOT JUST ABOUT THAT.
ROUTE 1.
WHY DO WE CHOOSE ROUTE 1, ONE OF THE BUSIEST IF NOT THE
BUSIEST.
I BELIEVE IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO USF.
USF STUDENTS ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN.
HOP ON THE STREETCAR THAT IS FARE-FREE.
THEY DON'T HAVE WORRY ABOUT PARKING.
GO THROUGH THIS AREA ALL OVER YBOR CITY AND BRINGS AWARENESS
TO PUBLIC TRANSIT.
NUMBER ONE.
THEY OFFER PEOPLE SAVINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PAYING THOSE
FARES.
INCREASES FREQUENCY.
THAT IS ANOTHER THING, WE LIVE IN THE COUNTRY OF
CONVENIENCE.
WE HAVE THESE DRIVE-THRUS AND PEOPLE WANT THINGS DELIVERED
AND WHAT NOT.
GOING TO THE BUS, IF IT IS RUNNING AT A 30-MINUTE SCHEDULE
AND COULD BE RUNNING AT A 15-MINUTE SCHEDULE, INTERVALS.
YOU THINK YOU CAN HOP OFF YOUR BUS, GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE AND
WITHIN 15 MINUTES, GETTING YOUR NEXT BUS AND STILL MAKING IT
TO WORK ON TIME.
SO I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS -- THIS IDEA.
I THINK IT LAYS DOWN THE FOUNDATION FOR INCREASED AWARENESS,
POSSIBLY FUTURE INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW, FROM A VARIETY OF
SOURCES.
I HOPE THE CIT GETS RENEWED COME NOVEMBER.
I MEAN THAT IS A MAKE OR BREAK THING.
I HOPE EVENTUALLY ONE DAY WE PASS SOME KIND OF TRANSIT
REFERENDUM TO HELP US EXPAND THIS BUS SERVICE, BUT I THINK
THAT IS GREAT.
THAT IS MY SPIEL ON THE HART FUNDING, I SUPPORT THAT.
REGARDING THE SOCIAL ACTION ITEMS.
IT WAS BROUGHT UP OF THE $25,000 THRESHOLD.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE GIVING THIS KIND OF MONEY $25,000 AND UP TO
ORGANIZATIONS.
THEY SHOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
WE SAW MOST RECENTLY WITH THE NAACP.
I THINK THAT IS ONLY FAIR.
IT IS PUBLIC MONEY.
WE ARE GIVING IT UP.
WE ARE GIVING THAT MONEY TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
THAT IS REALLY IS.
JUST A RANDOM CONCOCTION OF COMMENTS.
07:11:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AFTER COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:11:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HURTAK, HENDERSON, VIERA.
YES, MA'AM.
07:11:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I AM -- I REALLY GREATLY AM TOUCHED BY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE
WHO HAVE REALLY TAKEN THIS CAUSE ON AS THEIR OWN.
THE STORIES I HAVE HEARD ABOUT PEOPLE NEEDING TO USE TRANSIT
FOR WHATEVER REASON.
BUT -- BUT I HAVE A FEW THINGS I LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE
PUBLIC.
FIRST OF ALL, BEING A -- A POST FROM INSTAGRAM.
THIS WAS --
07:12:10PM >> I DON'T HAVE THAT COPY.
CAN I HAVE YOURS.
07:12:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
FIRST, A PHOTO FROM INSTAGRAM THAT HAPPENED JUST LAST WEEK,
WHERE THE MAYOR ON A PODCAST, A DEVELOPMENT PODCAST SAID --
CAN YOU ZOOM IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, TRANSPORTATION -- UH-OH.
07:12:32PM >> I PRESSED THE WRONG BUTTON.
I AM FIRED.
07:12:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T THINK SO.
YOU ARE NOT GETTING OUT THAT EARLY.
07:12:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHERE IS THAT BUTTON.
[LAUGHTER]
07:12:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TRANSPORTATION IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
AND THIS WAS THE PODCAST THAT MAYOR CASTOR DID LAST WEEK.
SHE IS 100% RIGHT.
IT IS OUR BIGGEST ISSUE.
NEXT IS THE -- THE TPO DID A STUDY FOR LONG-RANGE
TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
WHAT THEY DID AFTERWARDS WAS -- THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL OUT
THE DATA THAT FOCUSED JUST ON THE CITY OF TAMPA.
GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT ONE.
THE TOP OPERATE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NEW, FASTER
TRANSIT.
LOOK AT THAT.
ANYTHING IN BLUE, THAT WAS THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
NEW FASTER TRANSIT.
AND WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN BY THAT IS -- IS A RAIL.
LIKE PASSENGER RAIL.
BUT THE THING ABOUT PASSENGER RAIL IS IF YOU DON'T LIVE
WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF IT, YOU STILL GOT TO GET HOME.
AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET HOME, MR. WILLITS TALKED ABOUT
THAT A LITTLE EARLIER.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A NETWORK OF GETTING PEOPLE ON A BUS TO
THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE FROM THAT RAIL LINE THAT WE
CAN'T AFFORD RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT
LATER.
AS SOON AS WE GET MORE PEOPLE RIDING THE BUS DOING THIS.
THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS ABOUT THE COST OF THIS.
THE STREETCAR EXTENSION WE NEED 50 MILLION.
THE BRT.
WE NEED $95 MILLION.
THE BRT IS THE SAME ROUTE OF ROUTE 1 BY AND LARGE.
AND WHAT THIS WILL DO FOR A FRACTION -- FOR MAYBE 1% OF THAT
MONEY IS GIVE THE ABILITY TO GO FASTER.
AND GET MORE PEOPLE ON TRANSIT.
NEXT.
THERE IS A STORY IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES RECENTLY THAT
BASICALLY SAID THAT THE NUMBER OF CASH-STRAPPED HOUSEHOLDS
IN FLORIDA HAVE INCREASED NOW AND 13% OF HOUSEHOLDS NOW
STAND BELOW THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL OF $31,200 FOR A
FAMILY OF FOUR.
FROM 2021 TO THE FOLLOWING YEAR, A MINIMUM COST OF HOUSE
HOLD NECESSITY SUCH AS HOUSING, FOOD AND TRANSPORTATION FOR
A SINGLE ADULT IN FLORIDA INCREASED FROM $28,344 TO $30,084.
THIS IS GOING TO BE -- DO NOTHING BUT INCREASE, BECAUSE THIS
IS FROM '21-'22.
THANK YOU, MISS SHARPE.
I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MR. MIRANDA SAID EARLIER.
I REALLY THINK THAT -- THAT YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
AND OTHER PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT IT TODAY WHO HAVE LIVED
ELSEWHERE.
THEY SAY BUS SERVICE IS WHAT THEY ARE USED TO.
YOU SAID THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT USED TO IT.
AND SO -- SO WHAT -- WHICH -- AND THAT IS THE WHOLE REASON
THAT WE NEED TO TAKE AWAY THE BARRIER OF RIDING THE BUS.
IF WE TAKE AWAY THE BARRIER OF RIDING THE BUS, YOU HOP OFF
THE STREETCAR AND GET ON THE BUS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT.
I HAVE MULTIPLE FRIENDS WANT TO RIDE WITH ME TO RIDE THE BUS
BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW.
WORRIED.
THEY ARE US HAVE.
$2.
I WILL BLOCK EVERYBODY ELSE FROM RIDING THE BUS.
YOU LITERALLY JUST HOP ON.
SO I -- AND, OF COURSE, GOING ON WITH SAVING THE
ENVIRONMENT.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
SO TODAY I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD -- I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE
OUT OF THE GATE NOT TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME
REALLY INTERESTING SUPPORT.
WE HAVE GOTTEN SUPPORT FROM DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATIONS.
HARBOUR ISLAND SOUTH WROTE A LETTER WHEN THEY HEARD ABOUT
THIS, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HELP PROVIDE MORE -- MORE ABILITY
FOR PEOPLE TO GET AROUND.
SO I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE MY MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE $1.5 MILLION FUNDING FOR CIP
PROJECT 1002659, WHICH IS EV CHARGING STATIONS AND
INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADE FROM THE FY '25 BUDGET AND REALLOCATE
THE $1.5 MILLION TO HART FOR ONE-YEAR FARE-FREE PILOT
PROGRAM 15-MINUTE HEADWAYS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
07:16:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
07:16:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SECOND.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOU WANT TO SPEAK FIRST?
07:16:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I APPRECIATE IT.
OKAY, SO LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FOR A SECOND.
AS AN EDUCATOR, I KNOW FIRST HAND THAT ROUTE 1 IS NOT THE
ONLY ROUTE WHERE THERE ARE DISADVANTAGED PEOPLE RIDING THE
BUS.
SO FOR ONE ROUTE, WHICH I ACTUALLY RODE ON FRIDAY.
I GOT TO EXPERIENCE IT.
AND I COULD SEE THE NEED, OF COURSE, OF PEOPLE RIDING ROUTE
1.
IT WAS CROWDED.
THE BUS WENT ALONG -- CHUGGING ALONG FROM DOWNTOWN ALL THE
WAY TO THE DEPOT JUST OFF OF FLETCHER AVENUE.
SO I ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT IT IS ABOUT THE NEED WHO NEEDS TO PAY FOR THE RIDERSHIP.
EVERYBODY WHO GETS ON 9 BUS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD TO GET ON THE BUS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL IF THOSE WHO ARE
DISADVANTAGED AND NEED TO RIDE FOR FREE REGARDLESS OF ROUTE,
REGARDLESS OF ROUTE.
THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME.
BECAUSE THAT ROUTE MAY BE HEADED TOWARD WESTSHORE WHERE
THERE IS 25 KIDS AT THE BUS STOP THAT GO TO JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL EVERY DAY.
IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT FLORIDA AVENUE.
IT MAY BE A HIGH RIDERSHIP, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY REASON
TO CONSTITUTE THAT IT SHOULD BE FREE.
IT SHOULD BE ABOUT THE NEED.
I JUST WROTE A QUICK NOTE ON MY -- LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
IT IS ABOUT THE DISADVANTAGED EQUITY STUDY.
HAS THAT BEEN DONE?
HART IS IN FINANCIAL STRAITS.
I HAPPEN TO SIT ON THE HART BOARD.
THE MOST CHALLENGING POSITION THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE.
I HAD TO -- EVERY MONTH, I HAVE TO SIT AND LISTEN TO THE
EMPLOYEES -- SEE, I GET TO TALK ABOUT IT HERE BECAUSE I
WASN'T ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT AT THE HART MEETING.
BUS DRIVERS WHO WERE NOT PAID THEIR TIME AND A HALF.
NOT PAID AT ALL.
AND THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR THAT.
THEY GOT A $1500 SUPPLEMENT, BUT REALLY BECAUSE OF THE
OVERTIME AND THEIR OWN CONTRACT, IT REALLY TOTALED $26
MILLION BUT HART GAVE EVERYBODY A CHECK FOR $1500 AND CALLED
IT A DAY.
PAID THE TEAMSTERS AND EMPLOYEE WHO DROVE OUT OF COVID OUT
OF THEIR FUNDING.
AND THEY CAN'T ADDRESS THAT.
IT IS GOING TO GO INTO ARBITRATION.
THE SAD PART IS, THAT THE GOVERNMENT SENT THEM THE MONEY FOR
THAT VERY REASON, TO KEEP THEIR EMPLOYEES ON BOARD.
AND SO FOR ME, THIS IS A VERY CHALLENGING ISSUE.
FOR US TO -- NEEDS TORQUE BE THE PERSON WHO IS GIVING.
I THINK HART SHOULD REASSESS THEIR BUDGET.
I THINK THAT HART SHOULD REASSESS THEIR BUDGET.
BECAUSE THEY TOOK HART AWAY FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I BELIEVE.
I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL OF THE DETAILS ABOUT IT, BUT THEY
SEPARATED THESE TWO ORGANIZATIONS FOR A REASON.
AND WE DO PROVIDE SUPPORT.
NOW THE STREETCAR IS THE OTHER PART TO THAT.
THE STREETCAR, THE PEOPLE WHO GET ON THE STREETCAR CAN
AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT.
THAT IS JUST THE BOTTOM LINE.
I RODE BOTH ON FRIDAY, AND THE PEOPLE WHO GOT ON THE
STREETCAR CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT.
AND THAT ONE IS FREE.
IT IS A TOURIST ATTRACTION.
AND IT DOES PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE OVER
HERE TO HAVE A NICE LITTLE HOOK-UP OF FREE TRANSPORTATION.
BUT THOSE ARE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY PAY.
AND YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
SO IF WE ACTUALLY TOOK THE TIME TO SAY, HEY, HART, WHY DON'T
YOU IDENTIFY PEOPLE WHO NEED THE SUPPORT TO RIDE THE BUS FOR
FREE, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY LIVE.
AND START THERE.
BECAUSE AFTER THIS $1.5 MILLION, WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE
NEXT ROUTE?
AND THEN THE NEXT ROUTE?
WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?
WHEN WE JUST HAVE THE SAME POT OF MONEY.
THAT IS THE SIMPLISTIC WAY OF ME LOOKING AT IT.
I RODE THE BUS AS A TEENAGER.
I ACTUALLY ENJOYED IT.
BECAUSE I WAS RAISED IN A SINGLE PARENT HOUSE HOLD AND HOW I
GOT TO WORK.
SOMETIMES I HAD TO WALK.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT GENERATION.
NOT AS SAFE AS IT USED TO BE BACK THEN.
SO HERE IT IS.
I AM SAYING IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEND $1.5 MILLION, WE SHOULD
GIVE IT TO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY NEED IT.
NOT JUST TO MAKE THE FLORIDA AVENUE CORRIDOR.
AND FOR THE -- FOR THE SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS, THIS ONE HAS
BEEN ON MY RADAR SINCE BEFORE --
07:21:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN WE SEPARATE IT AND DO THE HART THING
FIRST AND THEN THE --
07:21:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
07:21:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
07:21:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AFTER THIS MOTION GO RIGHT TO THE SOCIAL
ACTION.
07:21:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CHAIR, I CAN COMPLY WITH YOUR REQUEST.
NO PROBLEM.
07:21:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, VIERA.
07:21:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
LET ME WRAP UP MY SENTENCE.
UP TONIGHT WANT YOU TO THINK THAT I DON'T SUPPORT FREE
TRANSPORTATION.
BUT JUST FREE TRANSPORTATION FOR WHOM.
IT SHOULD BE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT IS
ONE ROUTE.
07:22:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL GO TO VIERA, MIRANDA, CLENDENIN,
AND THEN CARLSON.
07:22:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS.
I SUPPORT THIS IDEA.
AND I WAS FAVORABLY DISPOSED TO IT WHEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
FIRST MENTIONED IT A WEEK OR TWO AGO.
AND I STILL SUPPORT IT TODAY.
WE ALWAYS NEED TO HAVE A BALANCE.
STREET REPAVING IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT
AND DOESN'T MEAN WE AVOID OUR DUTIES TO DO WHAT WE CAN FOR
MASS TRANSIT.
MANY OF US SUPPORTED IT ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION.
I SUPPORTED IT WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE OF A PENNY SALES TAX IN
2016, IT IS NOT POPULAR RUNNING FOR OFFICE ON RAISING TAXES
BUT I DID THAT.
SUPPORTED IN 2018, 2022.
AND IF IT COMES UP AGAIN, I WILL SUPPORT IT AGAIN.
I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A SEPARATE REVENUE SOURCE FOR MASS
TRANSIT.
BUT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T GET WHAT WE WANT, RIGHT, OR WHAT
WE NEED, THAT WE JUST ABANDON THE WHOLE IDEA.
IT MOVES US FORWARD ON SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY WANT.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
THIS MOVES US FORWARD ON MASS TRANSIT.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I SUPPORT THIS IS BECAUSE THIS HAS
REAL PROGRESS FOR HART'S CLIENTS AND FOR FOLKS WHO TAKE THE
HART BUS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I AM IN MY SECOND YEAR OF BEING CHAIRMAN OF HART.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, THAT IS A POSITION THAT I ENJOY A
GREAT DEAL.
PROBABLY MY LAST YEAR DOING IT, I WOULD THINK.
BURR BEING ON THE HART BOARD, I LOVE IT FOR A LOT OF REASONS
AND I AM VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT.
I AM ENTHUSIASTIC BECAUSE OF THE WORKERS AT HART, OPERATORS
AND MECHANICS, AND YOU WILL THE DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT MAKE
HART RUN.
I TALK TO A LOT OF THEM LIKE I DO ALL THE TIME, THEY SEE IT
AS A CALLING.
THEY SEE IT AS A PUBLIC SERVICE AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE
DOING AND THEY ARE VERY PASSIONATE WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
THEY ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS.
FOLKS THAT TAKE THE HART BUS.
THESE ARE EVERYDAY WORKING PEOPLE.
MR. HAGAN SAID SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT TAKE THE HART BUS ARE NOT THE
PEOPLE THAT WE HEAR FROM ALL THE TIME, WEEK TO WEEK.
AND ESPECIALLY IN OUR CITY OF TAMPA ELECTIONS.
WON'T GET ON THAT, RIGHT.
BUT THERE ARE FOLKS WE DON'T ALWAYS HEAR FROM.
I REMEMBER -- IF YOU ALL REMEMBER SCOTT PAYNE USED TO BE A
DISTRICT 7 COUNCILMAN, NOW AUTO ROMAN CATHOLIC DEACON.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE, HE WROTE THE PEOPLE YOU FIGHT FOR
ARE NOT THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR YOU.
NOT THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE.
THEY ARE NOT THE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP ONE WAY OR
THE OTHER.
THEY ARE EVERYBODY, WHETHER THEY VOTE OR NOT, THE PEOPLE.
THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS PROJECT -- THIS PROPOSAL PUT FORWARD BY
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT MOVES US
FORWARD FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY.
HART BUSES.
MOMS AND DADS TRYING TO MAKE A DOLLAR OUT OF $.15.
SENIOR CITIZENS.
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
PEOPLE WITH CHALLENGES IN LIFE THAT A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T
EVEN BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT.
DON'T EVEN BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT.
JUST THE WAY IT IS UNFORTUNATELY.
THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT SMACKS OF EMPATHY AND OF COMPASSION
AND I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
100% FOR IT.
I WILL COURAGE FOLKS TO SUPPORT IT.
AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION IF WE DO SUPPORT THIS.
TO HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE HART BOARD.
I DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE HART BOARD, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT
OUR BOARD WILL SUPPORT THIS, BY THE WAY.
I DON'T THINK I WILL GO OFF ON A -- ON A RISK AT ALL SAYING
THAT.
SO I INTEND TO SUPPORT THIS, AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:25:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VIRUS, CLENDENIN AND CARLSON.
07:25:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I ALWAYS HAVE THE HONOR OF FOLLOWING THE
ATTORNEY.
LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
WHEN I LISTEN, ALL THE PROPOSALS THAT COME HERE ARE VALID.
AND I CERTAINLY HAVE TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK BUT
I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
THE AREA THAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER BUS 3 AND BUS 4.
GUESS WHICH ARE THOSE, THE ONES THAT USED TO TAKE ME TO THE
HOUSING PROJECT AT 1860 KENDRICK DONNELLY KENNEL COURT AT
26th AVENUE AND 20st STREET.
WE USED TO WALK, ALL OF US.
FROM 26th AVENUE AND 20th STREET THROUGH JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL ON EUCLID AND HIGHLAND AND NEVER BE LATE.
NOW YOU GOT THE SCHOOL BUS WITH 50 KIDS IN IT, AND IT IS
ALWAYS LATE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, BUT IT MEANS A LOT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT POVERTY AND YOU LOOK AT THINGS THAT -- WHY,
WHY?
MAYBE WE GET SOME OF THIS MONEY AND HAVE TWO TRIALS INSTEAD
OF ONE SO MUCH MORE FOR THIS ONE AND THE OTHER ONE.
YOU WANT TO A BUSINESS ACUMEN AND STUDY IT.
IF YOU EAT FILET MIGNON AT A REST WHICH I DID ONE TIME, WHY
PUSH THE LOWEST VOLUME -- HIGHEST VOLUME IN SALES AND THE
LOWEST VOLUME IN PROFIT.
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
IF I WERE TO SELL YOU A DRINK, A COFFEE AND DESSERT.
I MAKE MORE MONEY ON YOU THAN I DO THE FILET MIGNON.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHY DO WE HAVE TO TRY -- NOT TRY AN
AREA THAT IS MORE THAN LIKELY THE MOST NEEDED FOR BUSES.
WHEN WE HAVEN'T TRIED IT I DON'T WANT TO SAY A FILET MIGNON.
I WANT A CUP OF COFFEE, A SANGRIA AND A DESSERT.
AND MAKE MORE MONEY OF SPENDING $12 THAN $50 ON THE FILET
MIGNON.
SO WHAT I AM SAYING PERCENTAGEWISE -- WHAT I AM SAYING IS,
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT BOTH ITEMS.
HOW DO WE DO IT?
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING OURSELVES.
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MISS HURTAK.
I ALSO HAVE TO AGREE WITH MISS HENDERSON.
DO WE TRY?
HOW DO YOU DO IT?
HOW DO YOU FUND IT?
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT $1.5 MILLION.
HOW DO YOU SPLIT IT UP?
HOW DO YOU GET IT DONE?
HOW DO YOU GET BACK INFORMATION IF YOU ONLY TRY ONE.
NAME ME AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT ONLY PUT ONE THING ON A
MAIL-OUT AND GOT ELECTED.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY.
SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BOTH.
I AM PUTTING IT OUT THERE SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND
NECESSITY.
WHO NEEDS IT THE MOST IS NOT WHAT I SAY ENOUGH OR WHAT THE
COUNCIL SAYS, BUT THE RESULTS OF THOSE WHO RIDE THE BUS.
WHEN THERE ARE TODAY AND HOW MANY RIDE THE BUS WITHIN THAT
CERTAIN TIME IN BOTH AREAS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A WORKABLE IDEA OF HOW DO YOU IT.
THAT IS ALL I AM THROWING OUT.
I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE FOR BOTH OF THEM, BUT I CAN'T.
SO THIS IS WHAT I AM SAYING.
07:29:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN
CARLSON.
07:29:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH, I AM -- THIS IS AN INTERESTING
DISCUSSION.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOSING SIGHT OF, THE PROPOSAL IS A PILOT
PROGRAM.
NOT NECESSARILY A -- A PERMANENT -- PERMANENT OUTCOME.
AND WHALE SAY IS WITH THE STREETCAR KEEPS GETTING THROWN OUT
THERE.
UNTIL WE DID WHAT WE DID WITH THE STREETCAR IT WAS AN
UNPROVEN CONCEPT.
IT NOW IT IS APPROACH CONCEPT AND WE CAN BUILD WITH THAT AND
WHAT THE SUCCESSFUL FORMULA IS.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO WORK OR NOT ALREADY BUT
TRANSPORTATION AS THE MAYOR SAID AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
TRANSPORTATION IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE STATE OF
FLORIDA CITY OF TAMPA.
WE ARE BEYOND WHAT MOST WILL THINK OF THE ISSUE.
WE ARE IN CRISIS MODE OF HOW TO MOVE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE
CITY TAMPA.
I AM NOT A HUGE FAN.
I RECOGNIZE WHERE FUNDING COMES FROM.
I SAID THAT DURING THE PRESENTATION EARLIER.
THE WAY THIS IS CRAFTED IS HART IS A COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY.
THE TAXES THAT APPEAR ON YOUR BILLS -- YOUR MILLAGE TAX THAT
COMES IN.
THAT IS HOW IT IS FUNDED.
GUESS WHAT, WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
AND I CAN -- I CAN HANG MY HAT ON THAT ALL DAY LONG AND WILL
CONTINUE TO BACKSLIDE ON MOVING PEOPLE AROUND THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
I AM READY TO TAKE THE LEAP OF FAITH THAT -- BECAUSE WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THAT.
IT IS A CORRIDOR THAT IS INTERESTING.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY SPENDING
$95 BIOLOGICAL ON A BRN THIS CORRIDOR.
IF WE SPEND THAT WITHOUT TESTING IT.
IS THAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO?
THIS IS THE BUSINESS MODEL OF -- OKAY, IS THE DEMAND THERE.
LET'S GO WITH WHAT IS REASONABLE EXPENDITURE TO TEST THE
CONCEPT TO SEE IF THERE IS A DEMAND.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT WORKS, THEN WE CAN LOOK FOR HOW WE
EXPAND OR HOW WE MODEL MOVING PEOPLE AROUND HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY.
I THINK IT IS WORTHY OF A GO.
I THINK IT IS WELL THOUGHT-OUT.
AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCILWOMAN FOR BRINGING IT TO THIS
COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
07:31:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:31:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC.
AND ALSO THE ONES WE RECEIVED TODAY AND THE ONES WE RECEIVED
BY E-MAIL.
I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH TRANSIT INITIATIVES 20
OR SO YEARS THROUGHOUT THE AREA AND THE STATE AND OTHER
PLACES.
I UNDERSTAND THE CALL FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE -- THE -- THIS
COMMUNITY DEFINITELY THE NEEDS TRANSIT SOLUTIONS AND PUSHING
TRANSIT SOLUTIONS OVER THE YEARS.
THE ISSUE IS, WHO SHOULD FUND IT.
I FUNDAMENTALLY DO NOT AGREE THAT THE CITY SHOULD FUND IT.
SPOKE TO THOSE AROUND 1979.
THE REASON THEY MOVED HART OUT AND THE HOUSING FUND OUT, SO
THAT AD VALOREM CAPACITY THAT THE CITY'S AD VALOREM RATE WAS
9% AND REDUCED TO 5% TO 5.2%.
AND TAXING CAPACITY MOVED OUT OF THE CITY AND MOVED INTO THE
OTHER AGENCIES.
THE IDEA IS THAT THEY WERE SELF-SUPPORTED AND FOCUS ON
SOLVING THESE ISSUES.
A SEPARATE GOVERNMENT AGENCY AND SUPPOSED TO BE SOLVING
THESE ISSUE.
HART HAVE ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND SOUNDS LIKE THEY
FIX ALL THE ISSUES.
NEED TO FIX THE ISSUE AT HART 37 IF HART DOESN'T WORK, WE
NEED TO CHANGE THE LEGISLATION TO MOVE HART BACK IN THE CITY
OR HART'S PORTION BACK INTO THE CITY.
A LOT OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, THE AIRPORT AND PORT.
IF THE AIRPORT SAID WE NEED MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE FLIGHT OR
FUND THE PORT.
WE WOULD SAY NO.
AIRPORT HAS FUNDING AUTHORITY AND THE PORT HAS A SMALL POT
THAT THEY USE AND RECOVERING.
AND OTHER AGENCIES THAT THE COUNTY ASKS US TO SUBSIDIZE
SOMETHING, WE WOULDN'T EITHER.
A SEPARATE GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
THE CITY OF TAMPA AS WE HEARD ALL NIGHT AND DIFFERENT
HEARINGS WAY BEHIND IN ALL KIND OF SPENDING AND WAYS TO SAVE
MONEY THAT MOST OF US THINK WE CAN, WE SHOULD SPEND THAT TO
GO TO THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS.
I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE BOARD MEMBERS OF HART AND I DON'T THINK
THERE IS SUPPORT THE CITY COMING IN AND SPENDING THIS.
CERTAINLY NOT SUPPORT FROM FOLKS WHO HELPED CREATE THIS AND
MOVE IT OUT YEARS AGO.
THE ISSUE IS RECURRING REVENUE.
WE CAN SAY A PILOT AND ONE-TIME THING.
NEXT YEAR, WHO WILL FUND IT.
SET THE EXPECTATION THAT IT IS GOING TO BE FREE.
WHAT HAPPENS ON THE STREETCAR IF THE STATE STOPS FUNDING IT.
IT IS NOT APPROACH MODEL BECAUSE THE STATE SUBSIDIZING IT.
THE SAME THING HERE.
WE NEED A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION AND THE LAST COUPLE OF
CAMPAIGNS WERE SCREWED UP, IT WILL TAKE US YEARS TO COME
BACK TO IT.
HERE IS THE THING.
I MIGHT GET MY NUMBERS SLIGHTLY WRONG, HART AT A MAXIMUM
$1.5 MILLION.
BUT HAS THE CAPACITY TO GO UP TO $ MILLION.
NOT A SINGLE BOARD MEMBER OF HART'S BOARD HAS MADE A MOTION
TO INCREASE IT.
RIGHT NOW THE TOTAL BUDGET AROUND $1 10 MILLION.
$78 MILLION, $80 MILLION FROM THE .5 MILLION.
INCREASE IT TO 3 MILL, THEY WILL HAVE $500 MILLION.
$500 MILLION WITHOUT GETTING ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION PASSED.
WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO DO THAT?
THE HART BOARD HAS TO APPROVE IT.
THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE IT.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE IT.
TEMPLE TERRACE -- PLANT CITY PULLED OUT.
TEMPLE TERRACE HAS TO DO IT.
AND THE COUNTY HAS TO DO IT AGAIN TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT
AND THE VOTERS HAVE TO PROVE IT.
A LONG PROCESS.
IF WE THINK THE PROCESS IS A BROKEN, WE NEED TO GO TO THE
STATE AND FIX IT AND MOVE OUR PART OF HART BACK IN.
THE SIMPLE SOLUTION TO PUT MONEY IN.
IN A YEAR TO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO SUPPORT
IT AGAIN.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO RELY ON FREE TRANSIT WILL NOT HAVE IT
ANYMORE.
WE NEED A SYSTEMIC SOLUTION.
WE ALL AGREE WE NEED TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT AND MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE.
WE NEED TO MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE BY ASKING THE HART BOARD TO
DO A TOUGH JOB GOING TO THE VOTERS AND INCREASE THE AD
VALOREM RATE.
THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
BY LAW, THEY CAN DO IT.
BUT HAVE TO MAKE THE GUTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
NOT A SINGLE MOTION TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE AND BECAUSE
THEY HAVEN'T HAD A BOARD MEETING, NO MOTION TO EVEN ASK US
FOR THIS MONEY OR TO SAY THEY WILL SPEND IT.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FIX THIS.
WE NEED THE HART BOARD TO DO THE TOUGH JOB AND LOOK AT THE
MONEY.
WE NEED -- WE NEED TO GET -- HALF A MILL WILL INCREASE THEIR
BUDGET BY $50 MILLION, OR $80 MILLION.
MUCH MORE THAN A $1.5 MILLION.
IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, GO TO THE STATE AND GET THE LEGISLATURE
TO CHANGE IT.
IF WE DON'T LIKE WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE OR THE COUNTY
COMMISSION, WE NEED TO VOTE TO GET THE COUNTY COMMISSION OUT
AND STATE LEGISLATORS OUT.
WE NEED TO FIX THIS FUNDAMENTALLY, BECAUSE IF CITY CAN'T
VOTE ON THIS.
MY COMMITMENT IS TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
I WANT TO DO IT SYSTEMATICALLY AND NOT PUT A BAND-AID.
07:36:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN, HURTAK AND VIERA.
GO AHEAD.
07:36:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM SAD TO HEAR THIS IS KIND OF BECOMING A
HOT POTATO.
IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE THROWING THIS.
IF WE DON'T -- IF THE COUNTY IS NOT DOING IT.
AND THE HART IS NOT DOING ANYTHING.
WELL, WE SAY -- I HEARD THE CITIZENS -- WE ALL HEAR THE
CITIZENS.
THEY WANT TRANSPORTATION.
AND THIS IS A WAY TO DO IT, QUITE SIMPLY.
WHAT -- WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY IS LET'S WAIT.
LET'S WAIT.
LET'S WAIT AND GO THROUGH THIS LONG PROCESS.
COUNTY WILL NOT DO IT.
THE COUNTY WON'T DO IT RIGHT NOW.
IT IS VERY CLEAR WHERE THE COUNTY IS.
THE REASON THE ROUTE WAS CHOSEN THE BRT ROUTE.
IT GOES USF.
THE REASON IT THIS WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE OF LEGISLATION IN THE
STATE LEGISLATURE THIS PAST YEAR, A MUCH HIGHER THRESHOLD TO
GET A BRT GOING.
SO IN ORDER TO GET THE RIDERSHIP WE NEED, THIS IS A WAY TO
DO THAT.
SO IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A ONE-YEAR COMMITMENT.
THE ONE-YEAR COMMITMENT WILL SHOW THAT THE BRT WILL BE
VIABLE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO SHOW NOW.
THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT.
AS FAR AS WHEN IT GOES TO THE OTHER THINGS THAT DON'T COME
TO US FOR MONEY.
THE AIRPORT AND THE PORT GET THEIR MONEY FROM FDOT.
THEY HAVE GET TONS OF MONEY.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM ANY MONEY, AND FDOT WON'T FUND
ITS BUS.
IT IS SIMPLE.
THEY SIMPLY WON'T DO IT.
THEY CAN HELP WITH CERTAIN THINGS BUT THEY CAN NOT FUND THE
ACTUAL RUNNING OF THE BUS.
THEY CAN HELP WITH THE -- WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THEY CAN NOT HELP WITH OPERATIONS.
THAT IS WHAT THIS IS IT.
THIS IS AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE.
SO I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO ARE -- ARE SUPPORTING THIS.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TALKED ABOUT.
AND TALKED ABOUT.
AND TALKED ABOUT AND TALKED ABOUT.
HOW DO WE IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION.
HOW DO WE DECREASE CARS ON THE ROAD.
THIS IS A WAY TO TRY.
AND I AM REALLY SORRY TO HEAR THAT PEOPLE AREN'T FOLLOWING
AT LEAST GIVE IT A TRY.
BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, IF WE DON'T TRY, WE ARE GOING TO BE
HERE NEXT YEAR WITH THE EXACT SAME THING BUT WITH A BIGGER
PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.
AND I JUST -- I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T AT LEAST TRY, YOU
KNOW, WHY ARE WE EVEN HERE.
07:39:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, VIERA, HENDERSON
AND MIRANDA.
07:39:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM GLAD HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS IF NOT MILLIONS
OF MONEY.
THEY DON'T NEED THE SMALL POTATOES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AGAIN, I WOULD PROBABLY BE WHERE COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS,
EXCEPT, THOUGH, AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK JUST SAID, BRT IS A
PROPOSAL WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A LOT.
MY EMPHASIS HAS BEEN EXPANDING THE STREET CAR FOR URBAN
TRANSIT AND CAR-FREE ENVIRONMENT WITHIN OUR URBAN AREA.
BUT AS SOMEONE SAID, MAYBE IT WAS COUNCILMAN VIERA.
YOU GOT TO THE DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AT ONCE.
YOU ARE RUNNING THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
YOU CAN'T JUST FOCUS ON ONE THING.
YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON LOTS OF THINGS.
WE LOOK AT THE BRT AS A PROPOSAL.
IT IS EXPENSIVE.
THIS TEST PILOT PROGRAM.
AGAIN, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THIS AS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE PUBLIC ABLE TO SUSTAIN IN
INDEFINITELY, IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMP
BUDGET, BUT WE CAN USE THIS AS A TEST PROGRAM TO SEE THAT,
ONE, WE CAN DRIVE THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS UP TO REEF THE
THRESHOLD REQUIRED FOR THE BRT IT WILL EITHER WORK OR IT
WON'T.
WE WILL HAVE AN ANSWER TO KNOW IF PEOPLE HAVE A SERVICE AND
WILL HAVE AN ANSWER.
THAT IS THE THING.
THIS ISN'T A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
THIS ISN'T A SELF-PERPETUATING PROGRAM OF GOVERNMENT GROWTH,
THERE IS A TEST OF A -- OF A LOW -- A LOW-COST TEST TO TEST
A MUCH MORE AGAIN SIEVE -- BEFORE WE INVEST FURTHER FOR THAT
MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE PROGRAM.
WE INVEST THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY THIS YEAR, AND WE KNOW
WHETHER WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS -- AT THIS MUCH GREATER
INVESTMENT OF NEARLY $100 MILLION OF A BRT TO GET FROM
DOWNTOWN TAMPA TO USF.
AGAIN, DON'T LOOK AT IT AS A SELF-PERPETUATING GOVERNMENT
THING, BUT LOOK AT THIS AS A SMART BUSINESS DECISION THAT
YOU TEST THE CONCEPT AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY
THAT YOU CAN BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH A LARGER
INVESTMENT.
07:41:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT IS VIERA, HENDERSON AND MIRANDA.
07:41:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID SOME WORDS ABOUT OUR HART BOARD.
AND I WANTED TO STAND UP FOR OUR HARD-WORKING HART BOARD.
TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO RAISE TAXES RIGHT NOW
THAT SOMEHOW THE FAULT LIES WITH THE HART BOARD WHEN WE HAVE
A COUNTY COMMISSION THAT WOULD RATHER DO A WHOLE LOT OF
THINGS OTHER THAN RAISE TAXES FOR HART RIGHT NOW SO OF WHY
ENGAGE IN POLITICAL FLATTERY AND GAMESMANSHIP EVEN IF WE HAD
MONEY ON THE HART BOARD, PUSH OVER TAXES AND SEND IT TO THE
COUNTY COMMISSION WHERE WE KNOW IT WILL DIE.
ALL I WANT TO DO IS HELP OUT THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN
AND THE FAMILIES WHO TAKE THE HART BUS EVERY SING FROM DAY.
AND I TELL YOU -- I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON MENTIONED
THE STREETCAR.
WHERE WE HAVE FUNDING THROUGH THE STREETCAR THROUGH
DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS.
SOME OF IT IS TEMPORARY, ETC.
I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOU MENTIONED THE IDEA -- BY
THE WAY 100% FOR THE STREETCAR FUNDING IT, ETC.
THE FOLKS WHO RIDE ON THE STREET CAR.
I DON'T HAVE THE STATS TO BACK IT UP, BUT I BET YOU A
MILLION BUCKS.
THE SURVEY OF THE PEOPLE ON STREETCAR AND PEOPLE ROUTE 1 IN
HART, A BIG DIFFERENCE IN INCOME.
HUGE DIFFERENCE OF INCOME.
PEOPLE WHO RIDE THE STREETCAR EARN MORE.
I AM DISTURBED BY A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY APPLIED TO
TEMPORARY FUNDING MEASURES FOR HART AND THE HARD-WORKIN
FAMILIES WHO RIDE HART AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE
STREETCAR, RIGHT?
THAT IS THE ISSUE BEFORE US TODAY.
WHY AREN'T WE GOING TO GIVE THE HARD-WORKING FOLKS THAT TAKE
HART AND HARD-WORKING WORKERS TO TAKE HART EVERY DAY THE
SAME COURTESY AS THOSE WHO RIDE THE STREETCAR.
I SUPPORT BOTH OF THEM.
THEY BOTH DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
HART'S BIG ISSUE IS FUNDING.
IT IS MONDAY.
THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE.
WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ON THE HART BOARD IN TERMS OF HOW TO
GET THERE.
SOME FOLKS SAY LOOK AT GRANTS.
OTHERS -- AGAIN, I PUT MY POLITICAL CAPITAL OUT THERE TIME
AND TIME AGAIN FOR HIGHER TAXES FOR MASS TRANSIT.
A STUDY A PROPOSAL BY STATE SENATOR DANNY BURGESS AND
LAWRENCE McCLURE.
WE WORKED WITH THEM.
I WENT TO TALLAHASSEE WITH OUR WONDERFUL CEO SCOTT
DRAINFIELD.
ONE OF THE GREATEST GUYS ON EARTH.
I THINK HE WALKS ON WATER.
THAT WE TALK TO OUR FRIEND IN TALLAHASSEE OF THINGS TO
IMPROVE HART.
A STUDY WAS DONE BY -- THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE,
THROUGH FDOT.
GUESS WHAT THEY FOUND THE NUMBER ONE CHALLENGE OF HART IS,
MONEY AND REVENUE.
MY -- I JUST WANT TO HELP HART.
I DON'T CARE OF THE POLITICS OF IT.
IF WE COULD RAISING THE MILLAGE RATE.
I DON'T THINK CARE IF WE DO IT BY APPROPRIATING MONEY FROM
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
OR DOING LEMONADE OR 12 HAIL MEARS AND 12 OUR FATHERS.
I WANT TO GET IT DONE.
BEING ON THE HART BOARD WITH HARD-WORKING FOLKS, I SEE THE
PEOPLE AND MOVE AHEAD.
THEY RECEIVE THE SAME KIND OF GENEROSITY THAT THEY GIVE THE
STREETCAR, THANK YOU.
07:45:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND THEN MIRANDA.
07:45:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
SINCE I CAN'T TALK TO HART WITH SUNSHINE.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION, IS SUBSIDY PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR
PEOPLE WHO NEED TO RIDE HART.
AND THEY RECEIVE A SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT.
DOESN'T THAT ALREADY EXIST?
07:45:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL HAVE TO ASK MR. WILLITS THAT.
07:45:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
A SUBSIDY FLOG PLACE.
ARE THERE PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY RIDE IT FOR FREE?
AND ANOTHER THING WHILE HE IS LOOKING THAT UP, I GUESS --
07:45:40PM >> I AM READY.
07:45:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY.
07:45:41PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
JUSTIN WILLITS, HART, DIRECTOR OF
PLANNING.
DISCOUNT FARES ARE AVAILABLE MOSTLY TO SENIORS, MEDICARE,
THE YOUNG, AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
07:45:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
RIGHT.
SO IF THEY ARE RIDING THAT ROUTE, THEY CAN -- THEY CAN APPLY
FOR THAT OR RECEIVE THAT?
AS YOU KNOW?
07:46:00PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
ACROSS THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
SOME DISCOUNTS AVAILABLE.
07:46:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT DAY AVAILABLE SINCE
YOU HAVE IT FOR ROUTE 1.
07:46:09PM >>JUSTIN WILLITS:
BREAKDOWN OF EXISTING RIDERS ON ROUTE 1 OF
THOW THEY PAY FOR THEIR FARE.
THAT THAT WAS NOT ASKED AND I CAN BRING THAT BACK.
PEOPLE IN THE CORRIDOR AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND DISABILITIES
AND INCOME LEVELS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
07:46:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE CITY -- THE CITY IS BEING ASKED TO
TAKE THE HIT.
WE HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT MUCH MONEY.
YOU KNOW THE COUNTY HAS ALL THE MONEY.
THE HART BOARD IS JUST AS CONSERVATIVE AS THE COUNTY
COMMISSION.
THEY KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE THE PROBLEM SOLVERS OF
THIS ISSUE.
AND THAT IS JUST NOT FAIR.
THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
07:46:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:46:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE CAN MAKE THIS A TV SHOW, AND IT WOULD
BE A SELLER FOREVER.
07:46:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE BEST SHOW IN TAMPA.
07:46:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MEAN, PRODUCING IT -- MAKE A MOVIE OUT
OF IT.
AND GET RICH.
ONE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT SO YOU CAN'T GO TO THE
OTHER ONE TO ASK FOR IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT YOURSELF FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO IT IS COMING TO US.
SO BUT IT -- AND MY PROBLEM IS, I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU.
HOW DO WE SOLVE THE PROBLEMS?
07:47:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SENDING IT BACK TO HART AND TELLING THEM
TO FIGURE IT OUT.
CALL ME OUT OF ORDER.
07:47:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I ASKED.
I WILL TAKE THE HEAT.
07:47:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS FINE.
07:47:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THINK THE HART BOARD SHOULD TAKE I
FIRST.
I AM NOT TRYING TO DELAY IT.
PRESENT IT TO THEM AND SEE HOW THEY WANT IT DONE.
I AM NOT ON THE HART BOARD.
I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT TRANSIT.
I WILL BE HONEST YOU WITH.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE DOES EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN
THOSE AREAS.
INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US THAT THERE IS A NEED.
DEFINITELY A NEED.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THE STUDY AND FIND OUT, MANY WAYS.
BUT WHEN YOU REALLY DO A NEED AND NECESSITY, WE KNOW THAT
THE LOWEST INCOME, I GUESS, SUPPOSEDLY ONES THAT RIDE THE
BUS ON THE DAILY BASIS AND THE YOUNG, I GUESS.
THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS DON'T KNOW WHAT A
BUS IS IF YOU PUT IT IN FRONT OF THEM BECAUSE ALL THEY WANT
IS A CAR WHEN THEY TURN 16.
THAT IS WHAT SOCIETY HAS DONE.
PARENTS HAVE GIVEN THEM A CAR.
THAT IS ANOTHER PROBLEM YOU GOT TO OVERLOOK.
NOT ONE LITTLE HURDLE HERE.
AT THAT WHOLE BUNCH OF HURDLES TO CHANGE SOCIETY BACK TO
WHERE IT CAME FROM ORIGINALLY.
HOW IT IS GOING TO GET THERE.
MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT.
YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE STUDY IN ONE AREA WHEN DO YOU A POLLING
OF ANYTHING.
DO YOU DIFFERENT AREAS AND DIFFERENT AGES, DIFFERENT INCOME
LEVELS.
ALL OF IT IS DONE.
NO MATTER WHAT BUSINESS YOU ARE IN.
WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS IN THE AEROSPACE
BUSINESS OR TRYING SOMETHING ELSE.
YOU TRY EVERY LITTLE THING.
WE ARE ONLY GOING TO ONE.
NOT TWO.
AND I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY THIS TO ESCAPE THE PROBLEM.
I WILL VOTE FOR IT TRITE NOW IF YOU WILL DO TWO STUDIES AND
DIFFERENT AREAS.
BUT THEY ARE ONLY DOING ONE.
HOW DO I KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER ONE?
HOW DOES THE PUBLIC KNOW?
NEVER ASK.
I AM NOT HERE I LOVE ALL THE COLLEAGUES.
I LOVE ALL THE QUESTIONS THEY ASKED.
I LOVE EVERYTHING.
I THINK THEY HAVE DONE IT ALL WELL, BUT AT THE END, HOW DO
WE SOLVE THE PROBLEMS?
GO BEFORE THE HART BOARD FIRST AND TELL THE OTHER GOVERNMENT
KNOW.
LIKE I SAID, THE PROBLEM STARTED WHEN IT STARTED.
WHEN IT STARTED BACK IN THE '80s.
NOT TODAY.
WHEN THEY SAID, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT.
NOW YOU WILL HAVE SOMEBODY TAKE THEM ALL THE WAY TO WIMAUMA
AND RUSKIN AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU NEED CONCENTRATION TO HAVE TRANSIT WORK.
AND IT STARTED BACK IN THE '80s WHEN THIS STARTED AND YOU
HAD THE RIDERSHIP.
SPENDING THE MONEY ON NOTHING.
IT WASN'T GOING TO WORK THE WAY IT WAS.
NOW YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF WORKING.
AND WE JUST SOLVE IT BECAUSE OF SO MANY INTERESTS.
SO I WOULD VOTE FOR IT RIGHT NOW IF THERE WAS TWO STUDIES
DONE WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.
HALF OF THE $175 HERE AND HALF OF THE $11.5 SOMEWHERE ELSE
TO GET AN UNDER STANDING WHAT IT IS.
WE JUST CAN'T SAY ONE AND THAT'S IT.
I NEVER -- I NEVER MARRIED MY FIRST GIRLFRIEND.
MAYBE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MARRY ME EITHER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:50:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
07:50:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN HURTAK
AND WE TAKE A VOTE.
07:50:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK WE ALL HAD TWO ROUNDS.
I WANT TO FIRST THANK MR. WILLITS.
I KNOW YOU -- YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS AND
RESEARCHING IT.
AND ANSWERING A QUESTION YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU WOULD GET THESE
OTHER QUESTIONS.
07:51:01PM >> MORE TIME TONIGHT FOR PREPARING.
07:51:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR TITLE EXACTLY, BUT YOU ARE THE
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO YOU ARE NOT THE CEO.
AND WE -- WE SHOULDN'T EXPECT TO YOU ANSWER EVERY QUESTION
OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO DO THAT TONIGHT.
AND THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING THE ORGANIZATION.
SECOND, THE POINT HAS BEEN MADE THAT THE HARD-WORKING MEN
AND WOMEN OF OUR CITY DESERVE A SOLUTION.
AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.
WHAT WE NEED IS A LONG-TERM SOLUTION, A SYSTEMIC SOLUTION.
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN A YEAR FROM NOW, THE CITY OF TAMPA
DOES NOT HAVE THE $1.5 MILLION.
HART CAN'T FUND IT.
EVERYBODY IS SAYING THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO FUND IT.
THE STATE IS NOT GOING TO FUND IT.
WHO GOING TO FUND IT?
NOBODY WILL FUND IT.
WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION AND FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE
ADVOCATING FOR THIS, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE FOLKS WHO ARE
GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THEY HAVE 480 MILLION PLUS IN CAPACITY
TO GO OUT AND CHARGE IN THEIR AD VALOREM FEES AND NOBODY
MADE A MOTION.
WE NEED YOUR HELP TO DO THAT.
THE CITY -- JUST BECAUSE THE CITY IS ACCESSIBLE AND THE CITY
COUNCIL IS ACCESSIBLE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN SOLVES EVERY
ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS ISSUE WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE CITY 40 YEARS AGO WITH THE
IDEA THAT IT INDEPENDENTLY HANDLED AND ALL WE CAN DO IS PUT
A BAND-AID ON IT.
NOT FIX THE PROBLEM AND ALL THE ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY
ALTHOUGH WE ARE PHILOSOPHICALLY IN FAVOR OF THEM.
WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A SYSTEMIC AREA.
WE CAN'T GIVE PEOPLE A FREE BUS AND EXPECT TO PAY AT THAT.
THIS HELPS WITH ONE ROUTE AND NOT ALL THE REST OF THEM.
07:52:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:52:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I AM JUST GOING TO SAY IT HAS BEEN INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO
THE EXCUSES.
I HAVE TO SAY THIS IS WHY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE GOLF GOVERNMENT.
WE ARE JUST PICKING AND PICKING AND PICKING IF WE CAN'T BE
NIMBLE.
WE CAN NOT MAKE PERFECT ENEMY OF GOOD.
WE NEED FOR THE PUBLIC TO TRY.
I AM CALLING THE QUESTION.
07:53:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:53:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
07:53:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
07:53:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
07:53:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
07:53:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
07:53:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO.
07:53:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
07:53:36PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH --
[INAUDIBLE]
07:53:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON, YOU CAN BEGIN THE DISCUSSION ON THE SOCIAL
ACTIONS.
07:53:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH I HAVE THE MICROPHONE
ON.
I HAVE A GREAT APPRECIATION FOR SOCIAL ACTION.
WHEN I CAME TO CITY COUNCIL, THERE WERE BASICALLY THREE
BLACK ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVED SOME FUNDING, THE URBAN
LEAGUE, THE NAACP, AND A LITTLE BITTY MONEY WENT TO THE
BLACK HERITAGE FESTIVAL WE HAVE EVERY YEAR THAT WILL BE I
ITS 25th YEAR IN 2025.
WE TAKE CARE OF DOGS.
WE TAKE CARE OF FILMING.
WE TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF.
SO THE QUESTION CAME TO ME -- OR I PRESENTED THIS QUESTION.
HOW DO YOU GET ON THIS LIST?
AS AN EDUCATORS, I KNOW A BUNCH OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT REALLY
SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND THEY ARE DOING AMAZING THINGS.
BUT THEY ARE NOT ON THE LIST.
HOW DO YOU GET ON THE LIST?
NO ONE CAN REALLY ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
ONE THING I DO KNOW IF YOU MAKE THE LIST, YOU STAY ON THE
LIST.
YOU STAY ON IT ON IT AND YOU KEEP GETTING MONEY.
YOU KEEP GETTING MONEY.
THEY ALREADY TOLD YOU BASED ON THE COMMENTS FROM STAFF.
THEY DON'T HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY.
DON'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
TO GET 200,000 EVERY YEAR WHAT IT SAYS TO ME, YOU KNOW YOU
ARE GOING TO GET IT.
YOU ARE EXPECTING IT.
AND YOU ARE NOT NECESSARILY SHOWING WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH
THESE FUNDS.
AND ANOTHER THING IS, YOU ARE SO SPOILED BECAUSE YOU ARE
GETTING IT THAT MAYBE YOU ARE NOT GOING OUT AND SOLICITING
FUNDS FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
YOU ARE JUST EXPECTING THE CITY TO COME BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR
AFTER YEAR.
ONE PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION HAD TO BEG FOR THEIR MONEY.
AND HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
A LACK OF EQUITY.
ACTUALLY DISRESPECTFUL.
AND I ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH THE NAACP ON QUITE A FEW
THINGS, BUT NOT ON THIS.
THAT IS WHAT IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME.
SO WHAT I DID WAS SOMETHING -- SAND I ACTUALLY HAD THIS
CONVERSATION.
I AM NOW SHARING MY VERY FIRST CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE
MAY I DON'T REMEMBER.
I SAID AS A TEACHER, IF YOU GAVE AN ORGANIZATION $5,000,
THEY CAN DO A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF.
IF YOU GIVE ME $5,000.
I COULD TAKE TWO TRIPS ON COLLEGE TOURS TO TALLAHASSEE, BUY
THE KIDS' T-SHIRTS AND SOME SNACKS.
AND I AM BEING IMPACTFUL.
SOMEBODY IN THAT GROUP WILL GO TO COLLEGE BECAUSE I PUT THEM
ON A BUS FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.
OUR ROLE UP HERE FOR THIS PARTICULAR MONEY IS TO SUPPORT
SOMETHING.
JUST TO SUPPORT YOU.
TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HELP.
YOU CAN NOT EXPECT US TO FUND YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THEN
EVERYBODY ELSE GIVE YOU $1,000 OR $5,000.
AND YOU GET $ 00,000 FROM US.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EQUITY IN THIS LIST.
AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION
IS THAT A COUNCILMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THEY SUPPORT SOMETHING.
SO THEY WILL ASK FOR THAT ORGANIZATION TO GET ON THE LIST.
SO I TRIED IT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.
THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I AM TALK ABOUT.
I ACTUALLY ASKED THE -- I ASKED FOR FUNDING FOR THE THEY ARE
ERIN'S HOUSE, $5,000, THE BOARD FOUNDATION.
I ASKED FOR G, G-3, A YOUTH ORGANIZATION THAT IS VERY
IMPACTFUL.
MY FORMER STUDENTS AND I KNOW WHAT THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY
IN EAST TAMPA.
I ASKED FOR IT FOR RISE UP FOR PEACE THEY DEAL WITH GUN
VIOLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I ASKED FOR $5,000.
THE BIG ASK FOR ME AS A COUNCILMEMBER WAS $20,000 TO THE
SKILLS CENTER THAT WE SUPPORTED WITH CRA FUNDS AND THEIR
FIRST YEAR IN CELESTE ROBERTS AND HER TEAM RAISED SO MUCH
MONEY FROM DIFFERENT PLACES TO SURPASS THEIR FUND RAISING
GOAL OF 23 MILLION TO RAISED 28 MILLION TOLL BUILD THE
SKILLS CENTER.
WE GAVE THEM $500,000 A PINCH FROM THE CRA.
SO THIS IS NOW -- HERE IT IS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EAST
TAMPA, A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL FACILITY FOR YOUTH.
AND THE SCARY PART IS -- IS THAT NOW WE GOT TO KEEP IT OPEN.
WE HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE.
WE GOT TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON.
WE GOT TO HAVE PROGRAMMING.
SO I ASKED FOR THAT ORGANIZATION TO RECEIVE 20,000.
AND THEY ARE ON THE LIST.
THE ASK.
UP HIRE HAS BEEN TOO BIG FOR SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
WE YOU LOOK, FEEDING TAMPA BAY GETS $200,000.
THAT MAKES SENSE.
BECAUSE THEY FEED PEOPLE.
THEY FEED PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY AND SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS
HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HOMELESS BEING FED WHICH IS
RIDICULOUS AND A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY.
FEEDING TAMPA BAY DO AMAZING WORK AND RECEIVE $200 MILLION.
HERE IT IS THE FILMING -- TAMPA EDUCATIONAL CABLE.
I AM NOT PICKING ON YOU, BUT YOU ARE GETTING A LOT OF MONEY.
AND I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT YOU ARE BEING NECESSARILY
IMPACTFUL.
AND SO -- IT SHOWS ON YOUR WEB SITE THAT YOU RECEIVE SUPPORT
FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
THE COMMUNITY, JUST LIKE US, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE
YOUR ASK.
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE YOUR FUNDRAISERS.
YOU ARE GOING TO START DOING OTHER THINGS BESIDES EXPECTING
THE CITY TO FUND YOUR ORGANIZATION AT A NUMBER WHERE YOU
CAN'T JUSTIFY IT.
AND THEY HAVEN'T -- THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO JUSTIFY IT,
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MADE IT A REQUIREMENT.
EVEN THE FUNDING FOR THE NAACP.
FRANK REDDICK WAS UP HERE MANY YEARS AGO -- COUNCILMAN GUDES
CAME AFTER HIM.
THAT UPDATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN INCREASE THEY HAD TO HAVE
AN AGREEMENT, BUT NO ONE ELSE WAS TIED TO THAT.
MR. BRODY COULDN'T SAY WHO ELSE HAD GOTTEN THOSE.
BUT THE CHIEF WAS VERY SMART.
DR. CHIEF SAID BEFORE WE GIVE EVERYBODY ELSE THE MONEY.
ANYONE OVER $25,000 WILL HAVE TO -- WILL HAVE TO HAVE A
COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
THAT BENEFIT AGREEMENT AT ONE POINT -- YVETTE LEWIS
APPROACHED ME, SHE SAID WE CAN'T EVEN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS
THEY ARE ASKING OF US IN ORDER TO GET OUR MONEY.
IT IS TOO STRINGENT.
I FOUND THAT VERY INTERESTING.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE FROM THESE
ORGANIZATIONS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET THEIR FUNDING.
THERE IS JUST NO BALANCE ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
SINCE -- HOW MANY SECONDS DO YOU HAVE WHEN THE LIGHT RINGS.
08:00:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
30.
08:00:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THERE ACTUALLY IS SOME FUNDS LEFTOVER.
AND FOR ME, WHAT IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME.
I GET SO MANY PHONE CALLS WITH ORGANIZATIONS ASKING FOR A
LITTLE BIT OF HELP.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HELP.
$1,000, $2,000, BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.
LET ME WRAP UP BY SAYING THIS, THE LEFTOVER FUNDING THAT WE
HAVE, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE DIVIDED UP, YOU KNOW, AMONG
COUNCILMEMBERS AND WE DECIDE ON AN AMOUNT, $20,000 BECAUSE
ALONG THE YEAR WHEN YOU GET THAT PHONE CALL, YOU ARE ABLE TO
HELP SOMEONE.
YOU ARE ABLE TO HELP SOMEONE.
THE ADD-ON REQUEST FOR ME JUST AS THE PUBLIC.
I DID ASK FOR THE RIVERWALK.
THEY DO AMAZING THINGS.
THE FUNDING AMOUNT WAS LITTLE LESS.
MAYOR WAS MORE GENEROUS AND GAVE $30,000.
I SAID 25,000.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVING OUT BIG NUMBERS.
ANYTHING OVER $100,000.
WE NEED TO STOP DOING THAT SO PEOPLE WILL KNOW THERE IS
EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHAT IT IS THAT
YOU DO AND COME IN A RESOLUTION JUST LIKE DID FOR THE NAACP.
NEEDS TO CROSS OUR DESK AT $25,000 FOR EACH ONE SEPARATELY
SO WE CAN NAY YAY OR NAY, AND SHOULD NOT LAST FOREVER.
IT SHOULD NOT LAST FOREVER, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ON
THIS LIST HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER.
08:01:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON.
YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING INTERESTING.
THERE IS $124,000 LEFT OVER IN UNALLOCATED FUND.
08:01:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
08:01:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF WE WERE TO DIVIDE THAT BETWEEN SEVEN
COUNCILMEMBERS, THAT WILL GIVE US $17,714 TO EACH
COUNCILMEMBER.
I KNOW -- NO, NO.
THAT WAS BEFORE THE UPDATED LIST.
SO IT IS $124,000.
JUST -- I DID THE NUMBERS.
08:02:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT WOULD BE A GREAT START BECAUSE -- ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT JUST HAPPENED, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, IS
THAT -- AN ORGANIZATION WANTS TO TALK TO ME.
I WILL SAY TO DARLENE.
WHAT DO THEY WANT, DARLENE?
THEY SAY THEY HAVE TO TALK TO YOU.
I SAY, DARLENE, YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE.
IT CAN BE REALLY LEGIT, BUT EVEN I -- I HAVE LITERALLY
WRITTEN CHECKS JUST TO SUPPORT AN ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THERE
IS NO FUNDING FOR ME TO GIVE TO THEM.
AND I AM A GIVER, BUT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COME TO THAT.
THAT THE COUNCILMEMBERS ARE WRITING THE CHECKS JUST TO
SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE 501-C-3s AND THEY NEED A
LITTLE BIT TO FEED THE KIDS.
TO -- WE GAVE THE MONEY TO -- LITERALLY WENT ON THE TOUR.
THE -- SULPHUR SPRINGS.
STEPPINGSTONES.
THEY HAVE A FOOD PANTRY.
THEY HAVE -- THEY FEED THOSE KIDS AS SOON AS THEY GET THERE,
BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT HAVE FOOD.
THAT MAY BE THE LAST THING THAT THEY EAT.
SO THERE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IF WE HAD OUR -- IF
WE JUST HAD -- WHERE WE CAN ASK THE BUDGET OFFICE.
MAYBE THERE IS A FORM CREATED.
AND -- AND ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT HAVE A DISTRICT.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE TIED TO -- YOU KNOW, YOUR CITYWIDE.
AND SO -- BUT IF WE JUST HAD IT -- AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MONEY,
WHETHER IT IS $15,000, $10,000, TO HELP ALONG THE WHERE THEY
DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE ON A FUNDING LIST AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I THINK THAT IS AN IDEAL PILOT
PROGRAM WE CAN TRY.
THANK YOU FOR THE EXTRA TIME.
08:03:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:03:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT HERE TO DEBATE ANYONE ON THIS
ISSUE, BUT I AM NOT GOING THAT ROUTE PERSONALLY.
I DON'T THINK THAT I -- I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY OVER LOOKING
AT ME ASKING FOR MONEY FOR SOMEBODY.
SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT.
THEN I AM GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
I AM NOT SAYING IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IF THERE IS A
POSSIBILITY, IT CAN HAPPEN, IT WILL HAPPEN.
AND THAT IS HOW LIFE IS.
NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY ON THIS BOARD OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT.
ONCE YOU TOUCH PUBLIC MONEY, AND ELECTED OFFICIALS -- AND
YOU PASS IT ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU ARE GOING TO BE JUST AS
RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THAT PERSON DID EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE
WHAT THAT PERSON DID.
ME, I AM NOT VOTING FOR THAT.
08:04:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EVEN IF IT IS LIKE --
08:04:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT VOTING FOR IT.
EVEN IF IT IS A $1, I AM NOT VOTING FOR THAT.
BECAUSE CREATING A BURDEN I DON'T NEED OR ANYBODY ELSE
NEEDS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT -- BUT I AM JUST SAYING FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT
GOVERNMENT, IT IS NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE THAT YOU ARE GOING
TO GET INVOLVED.
EVEN IF YOU WERE NOT GUILTY, YOU ARE GO TO GET INVOLVED AND
COST YOU A LOT OF MONEY TO STAY YOU ARE NOT GUILTY AND PROVE
IT.
THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
08:05:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, VIERA AND CARLSON.
08:05:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH, I DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY MONEY ON THIS
LIST, BY THE WAY.
SO -- BUT I -- I DO -- I DO LOOK AT A LOT -- THIS IS OTHER
PEOPLE'S MONEY.
THIS IS TAXPAYER MONIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS ISN'T OUR MONEY.
AND SO WHEN WE -- WHEN WE DO A LITMUS TEST OF HOW I SPEND
OTHER PEOPLE'S MONIES, THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF RETURN
ON INVESTMENT THAT MEET THE STRATEGIC GOALS OF THE CITY AND
HOW WE -- YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
SO WHETHER IT IS GOING TO BE PROVIDING JOBS, ECONOMIC
INCUBATOR OR THE MORE SESSION WELFARE PROGRAMS WHEN WE ARE
TAKING CARE OF KIDS AND THE THINGS WE NEED TO BE DOING AS A
JUST SATURDAY, THOSE ARE -- THOSE ARE THE LITMUS TEST.
THIS IS NOT A MONEY GIVEAWAY, THIS SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHING
STRATEGIC GOALS OF THE CITY AS WE ARE SPENDING OTHER
PEOPLE'S MONEY.
I AM VERY MUCH HOPING AS THE CITY NEGOTIATES THESE
AGREEMENTS, THAT IS INCLUDED IN ALL OF THIS SO THAT WE CAN
ACTUALLY WEIGH THAT THIS ORGANIZATION LIKE -- SO WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATION X, WHAT ARE THEY
RETURNING TO THIS COMMUNITY?
WHAT ARE THEY RETURNING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA?
WHAT ARE THEY RETURNING TO EITHER THE -- EITHER THE ECONOMIC
SUCCESS, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPING CAREERS.
DEVELOPING SKILLS.
OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT IS, OR DEVELOPING JOBS A
CREATING THE -- OR TOURISM.
TOURISM AND OTHER CATALYST THINGS WE CAN DO VERY
STRATEGICALLY AS A CITY TO BRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
GROWTH TO THE CITY WHICH PROVIDES JOBS.
THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR.
I AM A CITYWIDE GUY.
I DON'T WANT ANY MONEY EITHER.
IF YOU AMONG THE SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS IF YOU FEEL -- I
AGREE WITH CHARLIE -- WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT MONEY STAY SITTING DORMANT.
WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH -- YOU BROUGHT UP STEPPINGSTONE THAT
CAME UP IN THE YEAR.
WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
WE NEEDED TO FIND MONEY FOR THAT MIDYEAR.
SOME IF WE LEAVE THAT SITTING -- IF WE LEAVE UNFUNDED
SITTING THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, I BEGAN RARITY YOU SOME
NEED BEFORE US IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO BE
LOOKING FOR MONEY.
AND SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT CUTTING SOMEWHERE
ELSE.
THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
BUT FOR MYSELF AS A -- AS A CITYWIDE PERSON, I DON'T
NECESSARILY FEEL LIKE I NEED A KITTY OF MONEY.
08:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND CARLSON.
08:07:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
YOU KNOW I LOOKED AT THE LIST.
AND I AM PERSONALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ITEMS ON THE LIST.
I AM FINE WITH THE LIST.
I HAVE MADE REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
AND THIS YEAR.
AND THEY ARE REQUESTS THAT I NOT JUST -- NOT JUST DON'T RUN
AWAY FROM, BUT I WILL FULLY EMBRACE.
LAST YEAR I BEGAN FUNDING WITH COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S
SUPPORT THE PENGUIN PROJECT WHICH DOES WONDERFUL FIRST-CLASS
THEATRE PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS THEM TEMPORARILY, GIVES THEM A REAL
LEG-UP TO LONG-TERM INDEPENDENCE.
I DON'T SEE THAT AS SOMETHING LONG TERM AND PERMANENT.
ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, I AM SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED G 3
RONNIE.
I MEAN, THOSE FOLKS ARE JUST AMAZING.
RISE UP FOR PEACE.
LOVE THEM TO DEATH.
REALLY GOOD PEOPLE.
SO I THINK THAT IT IS GOOD TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
TO REFLECT OUR VALUES.
YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE DO ON COUNCIL REFLECT OUR
VALUES.
WHAT WE JUST DID FOR HART.
I VOTED FOR IT.
REFLECTS MY VALUES.
I THINK A LOT OF THINGS THAT I REQUESTED REFLECT MY VALUES.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BY THE WAY, OF FRIENDS OF THE
RIVERWALK.
THEY HAD -- MAYBE I CAN DO THIS OFF LINE, BUT THEY SENT AN
E-MAIL WHERE THEY ASKED OF A WAIVER OF $50,000 OF FEES.
I DON'T KNOW WHO HI TALK TO ABOUT IT.
DO IT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
08:09:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHIEF BENNETT, DO YOU KNOW.
I SPOKE WITH IT EARLIER.
08:09:26PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
AND WE CAN TALK DEEPER OFF-LINE.
BUT WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR AS WE GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL
PERMITTING PROCESS, WHAT WE TONED REFER TO HARD COSTS AND
SOFT COSTS.
SOMETIMES SOFT COSTS WILL GET WAIVED TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE
HARD COST LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE RESCUE, PERSONNEL THAT
WILL COME OUT OF THE CITY'S BUDGET OR REALLOCATE RESOURCES.
WE TEND NOT TO WAIVE THOSE THINGS.
SO I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE NEXT IS.
WE FEEL THERE IS OPPORTUNITY -- WE LOVE TO ACTIVATE THE
RIVERWALK AND NOT THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GROW INTO THIS BUDGET IN
A SUSTAINABLE WAY AND SUPPORT ACTIVATION ON THE RIVERWALK.
WE ARE COUNTY -- WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL FIND THE
MONEY FOR THE FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK OF MARKING $35,000 TO
START.
08:10:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU SIR .WE CAN TALK BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING AND.
FOR MR. ROGERO, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU SIR.
I ASKED THIS BEFORE.
FOR THE VETERANS HELPING VETERANS AND MERCY PROJECT.
DO I NEED TO MAKE A FORMAL MOTION TO HAVE THOSE INCLUDED,
SIR?
08:10:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
FROM ANY PERSPECTIVE -- THANK YOU.
DENNIS ROGERO, STEVE FINANCIAL OFFICER.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR COUNCIL TO
MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
08:10:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I ONLY ASK THOSE BECAUSE IT HAS A LITTLE ONE.
08:10:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
08:10:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR.
08:10:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HES TO MAKE A MOTION EVEN THOUGH IT IS
INCLUDED WITH THE LITTLE ONE NEXT TO IT.
IS IT ALREADY INCLUDED OR HE HAS TO MAKE THE FORMAL MOTION.
08:11:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
THAT IS WHY IT IS FRAMED EXACTLY AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
SAID AS POTENTIAL.
THERE HAS BEEN MUCH DISCUSSION, OF COURSE, BUT NO CHANGES
HAS BEEN VOTED ON FOR -- TO THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
MOREOVER, I WOULD -- AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR.
SHELBY, BUT WE DISCUSS THE MECHANISM TO GO ABOUT MAKING
THESE CHANGES.
IT WILL BE PREFERABLE AND EASIER FOR THOSE INVOLVED TO MAKE
THESE CHANGES IN OCTOBER BY BRINGING A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION
TO CITY COUNCIL.
08:11:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR --
08:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY MOTION, I WANT TO GO
AROUND.
08:11:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN.
A QUESTION JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY.
THE LIST THAT WAS PRESENTED BY BUDGET ANALYST, BY
HIS KAPESKY, THOSE ITEMS MARKED IN YELLOW ARE NEW TO THE
LIST AND NOT IN THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET, I DID
UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY?
08:12:04PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
NO.
08:12:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.
08:12:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
EVERYTHING -- CAN I HAVE THE ELMO?
AND -- AND FEEL FREE, MISS KAPESKY.
THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS "PROPOSED CHANGE."
THOSE ARE THE ONLY ITEM NOT IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
EVERYTHING ELSE ON THIS LIST IS IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
08:12:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EVEN THE ITEMS LISTED IN YELLOW.
08:12:29PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
THE ITEMS IN YELLOW WAS TO SHOW '24 VERSUS
'25.
08:12:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
'24 VERSUS '25.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
08:12:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT UP --
08:12:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
THIS LIST, THE $124,686.
08:12:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
08:12:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT INCLUSIVE OF THE CENTER COLUMN?
08:12:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT IS INCLUSIVE.
08:12:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS THE LEFTOVER.
08:12:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ADOPTED ALL THE ONES.
08:12:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
124 IS THE LEFTOVER CASH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:13:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
GOING BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S
IDEAS.
I APPRECIATE -- IT IS GOOD THAT WE HAVE NEW IDEAS AND FRESH
IDEAS.
AND I LOVE HEARING ALL THE NEW PERSPECTIVES ESPECIALLY IN
REGARD TO IT THE RECURRING FUNDING.
I AGREE TOTALLY WITH THAT.
THE IDEA I THINK OF THE CITY FUNDING SHOULD BE KIND OF
START-UP OR -- OR INNOVATION FUNDING TO GET PEOPLE GOING.
BUT ULTIMATELY THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SUSTAIN
NONPROFITS, ESPECIALLY ON A LARGE BASIS ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
I -- I WOULD VOTE NO IF WE GOT A VOTE TO HAVE US GIVE AWAY
MONEY.
ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT MY FRIENDS WHO ARE IN THE -- IN
THE GIVING INDUSTRY LIKE WORK FOR FOUNDATIONS, THAT 90
SOMETHING PERCENT OF YOUR JOB IS SAYING NO.
THE SAYING NO TO PEOPLE IS A LOT WORSE THAN SAYING YES.
YOU MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE UNHAPPY.
WHY DID YOU FUND THEM AND NOT US.
OTHER THING IS, IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I HAVE FOLKS MAKE REQUESTS TO ME.
AND I NEVER DIRECTLY PUT ANYTHING ON A LIST LIKE THIS.
I ALWAYS SEND IT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF OR THE ADMINISTRATION
BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR THE SAME
REASON THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ORGANIZATION IS VETTED EVEN
THOUGH I MIGHT LIKE THE ORGANIZATION AND SUPPORT IT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE VETTED.
MANY ORGANIZATIONS ON HERE THAT I PERSONALLY SUPPORTED OR
THROUGH MY FIRM I HAVE SUPPORTED.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GO THROUGH SOME PROCESS.
I THINK WHERE WE HAVE AN IMPACT, IF WE HAD A WORKSHOP.
HOPEFULLY THE ADMINISTRATION WILL PUT A WORKSHOP ON THE LIST
OR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON CAN PROPOSE IT.
WHERE WE CAN GET SOME INPUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND FURTHER
DEFINE IT, TO SHOW THE EQUITY TO HAVE SMALLER GRANTS THINGS
LIKE THAT TO TAKE OUT SOME OF THE RECURRING ONES.
OTHER THING IS WHEN NONPROFITS CONTACT ME DURING THIS TIME.
I TELL THEM EVEN THOUGH I REALLY LIKE THEM.
I TELL THEM YOU NEED TO START APPLYING NOW NOR NEXT YEAR,
NOT THIS YEAR.
TOO LATE FOR THIS YEAR.
THE THING IS ALREADY BAKED IN.
I WOULD SUGGEST ANY NEW IDEAS, THAT WE START -- TAKE THEM
FLEW THROUGH THE PROCESS TO LOOK FOR NEXT YEARS.
IF THEY ARE VETTED -- THE LIST OF MAKES.
ADMINISTRATION AND LOOK AT THESE AND FINE.
IF THEY HAVEN'T, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS.
THE CATEGORIES OF POLICY INTERESTS EARLIER, ONE OF THEM WAS
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WITHOUT CALLING OUT ANY TIMES OF PEOPLE, ORGANIZATIONS
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SINGLE THEM OUT.
FOUR ON THIS LIST UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NOT UNDER
CHARITABLE GIVING BECAUSE I THINK THEY SHOULD BE
SUSTAINABLE.
THERE -- IT IS NOT -- THESE ARE NOT START-ORGANIZATIONS AND
IN SERVICES WE ARE BUYING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT IS A SEPARATE CATEGORY.
08:15:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CITY ASSETS?
08:16:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE WHAT?
SINCE ALFRED IS HERE, I WILL POINT HIM OUT.
BUT THE SISTER CITY PROGRAM.
SISTER CITY IS A PROGRAM THAT IS -- THEY ARE REALLY --
REALLY PROVIDING A SERVICE.
THEY ARE PROVIDING A SERVICE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
AND THEY ARE SEPARATE AND THEY RAISE THEIR OWN MONEY AND
THEY PUT -- BUT THEY EXIST TO SUPPORT THE CITY.
AND IT IS NOT LIKE THERE IS JUST SOLVING A SOCIAL NEED.
THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING A SERVICE OF THE CITY AND I THINK
THE SERVICE SHOULD PAY AND WHAT -- AND JUST LIKE YOU WOULD
ANY OTHER SERVICE AND IN THIS CASE, THEY ARE RAISING MONEY
TO MATCH US.
SO IT IS A DIFFERENT -- TO ME, IT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT
KIND OF TRANSACTION THEN JUST NONPROFIT GIVING.
THIS IS NOT CHARITABLE GIVING.
IT IS ACTUALLY A TRANSITION WHERE WE ARE ASKING TO PROVIDE A
SERVICE FOR US.
IF THERE IS ANY MONEY LEFT, $124,000 AT THE END, IF WE CAN
FIX ONE ROAD.
THAT WILL BE 20 PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE HAPPY.
08:17:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CLENDENIN AND THEN
ME.
08:17:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
TO ME, THIS IS A LARGER ISSUE OF HELPING SMALLER
ORGANIZATIONS GET OFF THE GROUND AND THEN TRANSFERRING --
TRANSFERRING TO SOMETHING ELSE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT IS -- I ASKED ABOUT --
ACTUALLY IS IF THE CITY COULD APPLY FOR LARGER GRANTS AS A
PASS-THROUGH AS SOME OF THESE SOCIAL ORGANIZATIONS.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT A
LOT OF THESE SMALL ORGANIZATIONS DON'T.
AND THAT CAME TO LIGHT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO --
HOW TO HELP TEENS LIKE THE STAY AND PLAY AND ALL OF THAT.
A LOT OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE SOME CAPACITY, BUT NOT
CAPACITY TO HAVE A $50,000 GRANT.
THEY CAN HANDLE $10,000.
UP DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN THEM WITH SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT
READY FOR.
WE WANT TO HELP THEM GROPE.
A REAL BIG ISSUE THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY TO WORK
TOWARD.
GANGBUSTER ON GRANTS.
A PHENOMENAL TEAM.
AND START GOING AFTER SOME OF THESE TYPES OF GRANTS WE CAN
DO PASS THROUGH, FOCUSED ON PARTICULAR ISSUES.
AND SO THAT, TO ME, IS A REALLY BIG DEAL.
AND THEN -- I KNOW WE START OF TALKED ABOUT IT.
A METHOD TO GET ORGANIZATIONS TO MOVE OFF GRANTS.
THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO GROUPS ON THIS LIST THAT I HAVE ASKED
-- WHEN I -- I TALKED TO THEM.
AND I ASKED THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS AN ENDOWMENT LOOK LIKE
FOR YOU.
THEY SAY WE ARE NOT REALLY LOOKING THE ENDOWMENT.
I AM THINKING, WHY NOT?
WHY AREN'T YOU TRYING FOR AN ENDOWMENT.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO START.
ONCE YOU HAVE AN ENDOWMENT, YOU DON'T NEED CITY ASSISTANCE
ANYMORE AND YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT.
FOR ME I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME ASSISTANCE IN ENDOWMENTS.
BUT ALSO, TO GO -- TO GO BACK TO THE IDEA OF CREATING THE
METHOD TO GET ORGANIZATIONS TO MOVE OFF GRANTS.
IF WE DON'T HAVE A METHOD TO START PEOPLE DOWN THAT PATH, I
WOULD LIKE TO -- TO CREATE ONE.
AND IF WE DO HAVE ONE, IF WE CAN GET A PRESENTATION ABOUT
WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE HAVE TO START.
WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
SEVERAL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS MAY NEED HELP IN THE LONG
TERM, BUT A LOT OF THEM -- I MEAN THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION
HERE THAT TAKES IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT IS GETTING LESS
THAN $25,000 FROM US.
WHY?
WHY?
WHY ARE WE DOING THAT?
THEY DON'T -- I MEAN OUR MONEY IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET TO
THEM BUT COULD BE A HUGE DIFFERENCE MAKE TO SOME OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS.
I TRIED TO TAKE THAT OFF LAST YEAR AND I GO THE A RESOUNDING
NO.
SO I AM KIND OF BEFUDDLED BY IT.
ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
08:19:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:19:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH, I HAD TO GATHER MY THOUGHTS.
I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT REQUESTS THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION DIVIDE THIS LIST AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
IT IS ADD SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUNDING.
SEVERAL MORE, MORE THAN SOCIAL ARTS FUNDING.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT SEPARATED BECAUSE IT IS A FUNDING
THAT PRODUCE AS RETURN FOR INVESTMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE TAKEN OFF IN A SEPARATE CATEGORY.
I WILL MOTION THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WORK THROUGH THIS
LIST, IDENTIFY -- IDENTIFY THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE --
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NATURE AND CREATE A SUBSET CATEGORY FOR
THEM.
08:20:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
08:20:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
08:20:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
YOU KNOW I HAD A REQUEST AS I AM SURE ALL OF US HAVE TO
INCREASE FUNDING FOR CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS.
I AM NOT GOING TO NAME THEM, BUT AT LEAST ONE IS IN THAT
CATEGORY.
08:20:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WILL BE MY NEXT DISCUSSION THAT I
WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
08:21:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.
BY CLENDENIN AND VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
08:21:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE THE
ADMINISTRATION TO WORK WITH TAMPA BAY WAVE AND IDENTIFY
THEIR FUNDING NEEDS.
I DON'T THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO DO THIS FROM THE
DAIS, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION IF THEY WILL WORK WITH TAMPA
BAY WAVE TO IDENTIFY THEIR REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF
RETURN OF INVESTMENT AND RETURN IT BACK BEFORE COUNCIL.
08:21:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
MAY I HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
08:21:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
08:21:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WAS GOING TO ASK OF PUTTING POTENTIALLY THE
FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK ON THAT IF YOU ARE AMENABLE TO
THAT.
08:21:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM AMENABLE FOR THAT.
08:21:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
POTENTIAL CHANGE FOR ALL OF THEM.
NOT JUST THE FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK, IT IS CORNERSTONE --
08:21:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM TAKING OFF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PORTION.
08:21:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:21:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK.
08:22:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CARLSON AND HURTAK.
08:22:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I TONIGHT HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF ME.
IF I CAN READ THIS, ONE OF THEM SAY TAMPA CHAMBER, BUT IT IS
REALLY THE PROTOCOL OFFICE.
THAT IS -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IT IS TODAY.
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE PORT, CHAMBER.
I FORGOT WHAT THE OTHER, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND PROVIDE
RESEARCH AND FUND A PERSON ON PROTOCOL.
IF A DIGNITARY COMES HERE AND MOSTLY THEY WORK WITH
ADMINISTRATION.
THAT ONE I THINK HAS TO BE INCLUDED UNDER ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ALSO.
08:22:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ASKING TO PULL THOSE -- ALL-INCLUSIVE.
NOT JUST THOSE -- I WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO THROUGH
THAT LIST, IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:22:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU STARTED TALKING OF ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT COULD BE
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
08:22:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT NOTE.
SEPARATING.
LOOKING AT CUTTING THEIR FUNDING IN ANY WAY.
08:23:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS WE HEARD IN THE DISCUSSION.
AS SEVEN INDIVIDUALS, WE COME WITH -- THE ADMINISTRATION OF
MANY MORE FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
AND I THINK IT -- IT WILL BE MUCH EASIER TO DIGEST OF HOW WE
ARE SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY.
OKAY, IS THIS DOLLAR WE ARE SPENDING BECAUSE IT RETURNS X
AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN RETURN OR THIS MONEY SPENDING BECAUSE
WE ARE -- BECAUSE WE ARE -- OUR -- OUR JUST -- OUR JUST
RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE CITY TO PROVIDE FOR PEOPLE WHO, YOU
KNOW, THAT NEED THAT EXTRA HAND UP.
YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DIVIDE THOSE ISSUES UP TO
MAKE A BETTER DECISION HOW WE ARE FUNDING -- FUNDING
PROGRAMS.
SO IT IS KIND OF ODD TO TALK OF TELEVISION PRODUCTION IN THE
SAME BREATH THAT WE ARE TALKING OF FEEDING KIDS OR HELPING
-- HELPING SOMEBODY TO GET OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.
IT IS KIND OF -- IT IS ODD TO BE ABLE TO TALK OF THE TWO OR
MUSEUM VERSUS --
08:24:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, I GET IT.
08:24:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ADD, THE WHOLE LIST CAN BE SEEN AS
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
ALL ADDS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
BUT CERTAIN ONE OF THESE THAT ARE SERVICES THAT ESSENTIALLY
THE CITY IS OUTSOURCING.
THE SISTER CITY, IF THERE WAS NOT A NONPROFIT TO HELP RAISE
MONEY FOR IT, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO OTHERWISE DO THAT
COMPLETELY THEMSELVES.
THE SAME THING WITH THE PROTOCOL OFFICE.
THE SAME THING SUPPORTING TAMPA.
AND THESE ARE SERVICES THAT THE CITY IS OUTSOURCING.
08:24:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:24:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND, AGAIN, I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO THE
CONCEPT OF ENDOWMENTS.
WE DON'T TALK.
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT SOME OF THESE
ORGANIZATIONS, ESPECIALLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEED TO BE
ABLE TO CREATE ENDOWMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT CITY HELP.
AND THERE ARE, AGAIN, QUITE A FEW OF THESE THAT WE NEED TO
HELP WITH THAT.
IF THEY NEED HELP, BUT AT SOME POINT, THOSE WHO ARE
FINANCIALLY ABLE TO -- TO ASSIST THEMSELVES, ALLOW US TO BE
ABLE TO HELP MORE ORGANIZATIONS IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND I
DON'T DISAGREE.
WE NEED TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ENCOURAGE THOSE
WHO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO LOOK FOR SOURCES THAT THEY
CAN KEEP FOREVER.
AND FOR ME, THAT IS WORKING ON ENDOWMENTS.
AND IF FOLKS -- ENDOWMENT ARE BASICALLY ABLE TO COLLECT
ENOUGH MONEY SO YOU CAN PAY FOR THINGS FROM THE RETURN.
AND SOME FOLKS CAN DO THAT.
THE LIMB MOM AND POP THAT ARE GETTING $5,000 CAN'T DO THAT,
BUT THOSE WHO HELP CREATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE
ENDOWMENT.
08:25:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:25:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
STATE THE MOTION AGAIN, PLEASE.
08:25:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:26:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO THROUGH
THIS LIST -- THE MOTION WAS TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO
THROUGH THE LIST AND PULL OUT THE -- THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT
ARE MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPING ORIENTED TO CREATE A SUBSET
LIST.
WE NEVER VOTED ON IT.
I TURNED TO THEM DID WE VOTE ON THIS.
08:26:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOT CAUGHT IN DISCUSSION.
A MOTION AND A SECOND AND SECOND IS VIERA.
08:26:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WILL NOT SAY HOW I AM GOING TO VOTE BUT
I WILL LISTEN TO IT.
08:26:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT MUCH OF A DISCUSSION.
ASKING THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT TO GO THROUGH THIS
LIST AND DIVIDE -- TAKE OUT OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THEY ARE NOT REALLY SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUNDING.
08:26:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
THANK YOU FOR THAT REQUEST.
08:26:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
08:26:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CHAIR --
08:27:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO ENTER THIS INTO THE RECORD.
08:27:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE WHY UP DATED LIST WITH THE CORRECT
124 NUMBER.
08:27:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON HAD HER HAND UP
FIRST.
08:27:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ALSO TO ME, IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDED
BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '25.
I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANY PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION UNDER THE
BUS BECAUSE THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED AND PRESENTED
TO US, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD CAP SOCIAL ACTION FUNDING AT
$100,000.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY.
IF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION WHERE -- ESPECIALLY
THESE ORGANIZATIONS OVER AT THAT.
THERE ARE FIVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE OVER $150,000.
THEY ARE THE REPEATERS AND HAVE BEEN ON HERE FOR A VERY LONG
TIME.
I THINK WE SHOULD CAP IT.
NOT THIS YEAR, BUT THIS IS THE LAST YEAR WHERE WE WILL GIVE
FUNDING AS THESE LEVELS.
AND WHERE WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE WHERE IT CAN BE A RANGE OF
OVER $25,000 AND THEN THE RANGE OF $25,000 TO $125,000.
BECAUSE FOR THREE OF THEM, PUBLIC ACCESS TELEVISION AND THE
CABLE CONSORTIUM.
PUBLIC ACCESS 08.
FILM AND DIGITAL COMMISSION GET 100.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE IN THE -- YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT A
BUSINESS THAT IS NECESSARILY IMPACTFUL TO US.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS NECESSARY FOR US -- FOR THEM TO BE
AT HIGH FUNDING LEVELS BECAUSE IT STANDS OUT ESPECIALLY WHEN
YOU LOOK AT WE ARE GIVING FEEDING TAMPA BAY $200,000 AND WE
KNOW THE GREAT IMPACT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE IMPACT IS OF BEING AT THE SAME LEVEL OF
FEEDING TAMPA BAY.
GET A SUPPORT ON THE MOTION THAT CAN HE CAP IT ON $800,000.
NOT -- I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY'S FUNDING FOR FY '25.
THE LAST YEAR WE GO OVER $100,000 AND EVERYONE ON THE LIST
IS NOTIFIED THAT THE HIGHEST THE CITY WILL GO WITH $100,000
IN SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS.
08:29:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOLD ON A BIT, MR. SHELBY.
08:29:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM SORRY DID YOU WANT -- IF IT IS THE
MOTION -- I CAN DISCUSS AND SEE IF THERE IS A SECOND.
08:29:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
08:29:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SESSION TO THE MOTION?
08:29:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I -- I WILL SECOND.
I PROBABLY WON'T VOTE IT BUT I WILL SECOND TO DISCUSS IT.
08:29:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN,
AGAIN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I WAS NOT AWARE IN THINK COUNCILMEMBERS -- OR THE CLERK NOR I
HAD A COPY OF THE LIST THAT IS REFERENCED TO.
MY JOB AS CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THE PROCESS IS
TRANSPARENT AND FREE AND ASK THAT THE CCTV PUT ON THE SCREEN
THE LIST THAT IS BEING REFERRED TO.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER.
PLACED ON THE ELMO EARLIER, BUT I WANT TO STATE FOR THE
RECORD THAT IS BEING PROVIDED TO MAKE SURE EVERY
COUNCILMEMBER HAS THAT LIST.
AND FOR THE PURPOSES OF MOVING FORWARD, THE ADMINISTRATION
KNOW WHAT IS LIST YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
AND LIST IS NOW GOING TO BE PLACED INTO THE RECORD.
08:30:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:30:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I CAN'T SUPPORT IT FOR THIS VERY REASON.
RIGHT NOW THE STATE CUT EVERY SINGLE PENNY OF ARTS FUNDING.
THE COUNTY WON'T DO SOCIAL ACTION FUNDING AT ALL -- OR IF
THEY DO, ON A MUCH LIMITED LEVEL -- MUCH MORE LIMITED LEVEL.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE IT.
SO I WOULD BE MORE RECEPTIVE TO THAT, MAYBE, IN A COUPLE OF
YEARS, BUT RIGHT NOW, WITH THE GOVERNMENT -- WITH THE STATE
GOVERNMENT AND THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF
THESE PLACES DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO.
I AM HESITANT TO SUPPORT THAT GOING FORWARD.
FOR THE NEXT CALENDAR -- THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
08:30:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
08:30:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ON HERE FOR A VERY
LONG TIME.
THAT IS -- WE HAVE TO DECIDE ON SOME LEVEL OF A CAP OR WE
ARE SHOWING FAVORITISM TO CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS.
08:31:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT I --
08:31:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
08:31:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND I DON'T DISAGREE YOU WITH.
WHICH IS WHY I WANT TO WORK ON A HOW -- A METHOD TO GET
ORGANIZATIONS OFF THE GLANCE.
THAT WILL TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS.
IN MOVING THEM OFF, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT -- ONCE WE
HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO HELP THEM FIND BETTER GRANTS TO
BE A PASS THROUGH AND TO HELP THEM FIND OTHER WAYS TO GET
THE FUNDING ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THAT GOING FORWARD.
WE NEED TO GIVE IT A COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE
DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF APPLYING.
08:31:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MAYBE SHOULD AMEND THE MOTION TO HAVE A
WORKSHOP TO PUBLICLY DECIDE ON SOME PARAMETERS.
08:31:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS YOUR MOTION.
08:31:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WILL CHANGE THAT TO A WORKSHOP.
08:31:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE TAKING BACK.
08:31:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION.
08:31:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I AM WITHDRAWING IT.
THE MOTION IS TO ESTABLISH A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN TERM THE
PARAMETERS MOVING FORWARD --
08:32:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
08:32:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
-- FOR FISCAL YEAR '25.
BEYOND FISCAL YEAR '25.
08:32:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MIRANDA --
08:32:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DO WE HAVE ROOM -- SEPTEMBER OR AFTER
THAT.
08:32:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BASICALLY JANUARY ARE LOOKING AT.
08:32:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JANUARY IS FINE.
08:32:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WILL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME.
08:32:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JANUARY IS YOUR NEXT WORKSHOP.
08:32:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT R YEAH, IT
WILL WORK.
08:32:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ARE YOU CLEAR ON THE MOTION, MADAM CLERK.
08:32:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
NOW GO WITH DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CLENDENIN, AND CARLSON.
MIRANDA VIERA THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
IMPLORE ABOUT PERFORMANCE AND MONEY.
IF YOU WERE GIVING OUT MONEY, YOU ARE GETTING POOR
PERFORMANCE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IF YOU ARE PUTTING OUT MONEY
AND GETTING A BETTER PERFORMANCE, IT IS A PLUS FOR THE
TAXPAYERS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHENEVER WE HAVE THAT WORKSHOP AND
HAVE SOME DIRECTION SOME PERFORMANCE -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO
HAVE ONE FOR $25,000, THEY ALL GOT TO SUPPLY THAT
INFORMATION OF WHAT THEY DO ON A -- ON -- I DON'T KNOW HOW
WE ARE GOING TO WORK IT.
SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, OR HALF A YEAR AND CHECK OUT WHATEVER
THEY ARE DOING AND HOW WELL THEY ARE DOING FOR THE MONEY
THEY ARE GIVING.
IT IS A BUSINESS ON THEIR SIDE AND THE TAXPAYER SIDE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:33:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN AND CARLSON.
08:33:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL SUPPORT THIS BRINGING IT TO A
WORKSHOP.
BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
JUST REMEMBER THAT NOT EVERY ORGANIZATION IS THE SAME AND
WHILE IT ASKS FOR THE LIST TO BE DIVIDED.
SOME A RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT IN PERPETUITY IT IS BENEFICIAL
FOR THE CITY TO FUND BECAUSE THEY ARE PROVIDING A SERVICE
FOR US .
AND NOT JUST CHARITY, WE ARE GETTING MONEY.
08:34:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE GETTING A RETURN FOR ANY INVESTMENT.
WHEN WE FEED THE CHILDREN FROM OUR COMMUNITY WITH
STEPPINGSTONES, WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING A RETURN.
08:34:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I STAND CORRECTED ON.
THERE ARE ECONOMIC RETURNS ON SOME THING AND JUST -- AS I
STAYED FOUR OR FIVE TIMES IN OUR CONVERSATION OF JUST
SATURDAY AND BEING A JUST CITY OF THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE
PROVIDE, SO, YES, I DO.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS THE -- IF THE CITY IS
SPENDING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND GETTING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS
BACK OR A SERVICE FOR THAT.
THAT'S WHY IT IS DIVIDED OUT OF THIS FUND AND SEPARATELY.
08:34:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:34:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THIS.
THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE INVOLVED IN AND PRESENT WHAT
THEIR CRITERIA IS.
AND WE WILL ABLE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEM AND HEAR
FROM THE COMMUNITY PARTLY COLLAR FLYING AND A POINT.
I WAS TALKING OF SEPARATING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FROM THE
REST OF THEM, MY INTENTION -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
INTENTION WAS OF YOUR MOTION, BUT MY INTENTION WAS THAT THEY
-- THE PURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THESE ARE
SERVICES THAT WHERE OUTSOURCED FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
MY INTENTION IS THAT THEY WOULD TRANSFER TO BE SERVICES AND
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET AND ECONOMIC FOLKS LIKE
THE CDC.
WE OUT THERE DOING BUSINESS RECRUITMENT TO THE EDC AND PAY
$550,000 A YEAR.
IF WE HAD A LIST THAT SAID EDC, TAMPA BAY WAVE ABOUT SISTER
CITY PROGRAM, PROTOCOL, EVERYTHING ELSE.
THESE ARE THE SERVICES THAT -- THESE ARE THE ECONOMIC
DIRECTOR CAN REVIEW THEM.
MEASURE THEM AND WORK -- WOK THE OUTSOURCE WITH THEIR STAFF
TO MANAGE IT, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM -- FROM THESE OTHER
SERVICES.
THANK YOU.
08:35:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
I THINK WE ARE IN THE SAME MIND SET.
I SAID CLOSE, CLOSE.
08:36:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A GOOD WORKSHOP IN
JANUARY.
I WILL RESERVE MY WORDS FOR JANUARY.
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED.
08:36:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I TALK ON THAT MOTION.
08:36:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:36:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
VETERANS HELPING VETERANS.
YOU HAVE SEEN THEIR WORK.
AMAZING.
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT DO THIS ARE WITH THE VETERANS
TREATMENT COURT.
THEY ARE LED BY MIKE ODELL THAT MANY OF YOU KNOW JUST --
THOSE FOLKS DO AMAZING WORK.
AND THEN MERCIFUL PROJECT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THEM LAST YEAR, $7500.
I JUST WANTED US TO FULFILL THAT.
I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CFO'S OFFICE TO RETURN TO
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING WHEN THEY CAN DO IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT DATE IT WILL BE WITH THE FINANCIAL
RESOLUTION MAKING THE CHANGES LISTED UNDER SOCIAL ARTS AND
ACTION FUND TO INCLUDE THESE TWO PROPOSED CHANGES.
AND SIR, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE GOOD FOR YOU GUYS.
08:37:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SIX CHANGES.
08:37:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO ALL OF THEM.
08:37:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK.
08:37:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
YEAH.
08:37:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TAMPA BAY BLACK HERITAGE FESTIVAL.
WHITE A FEW.
ADDITIONAL FUNDING --
08:37:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCEPT ALL THE ACCEPT ALL THE POTENTIAL
CHANGES.
08:37:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO I HEARBY MAKE A MOTION -- AND BEFORE I DO
THAT, WHEN SHOULD WE HAVE THAT RETURNED TO US SIR?
08:37:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE CAN HAVE IT THE FIRST MEETING IN
OCTOBER.
08:37:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WILL GLADLY DO THAT.
THE CFO'S REPORT RETURNS TO CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 3,
REGULAR SESSION, WITH A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION MAKING THE
CHANGES LISTED UNDER THE SOCIAL ARTS AND ACTION FUND TO
INCLUDE THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE POTENTIAL CHANGE.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I READ THESE FOR THE MOTION, THAT IF
I MAY, CORNERSTONE MINISTRIES, FRIENDS OF THE RIVER WALK,
MERCIFUL PROJECT, TAMPA BAY BLACK HERITAGE FESTIVAL,
VETERANS HELPING VETERANS, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.
THAT'S IT.
08:38:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
SORRY, IF I CAN CLARIFY, THAT WILL COULD AM
FROM THE UNALLOCATED FUNDING LINE ITEM AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
08:38:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
87,500.
08:38:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
COUNCIL'S INTENT.
08:38:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WALL OF $124,656 AFTER THIS.
08:38:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
08:38:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
08:38:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND. COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
YES, SIR.
08:38:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CHIEF OF STAFF, AND YOU MAY HAVE ASKED THIS
BEFORE.
CAN YOU VERY ANY THE ADMINISTRATION HAS VERY VIEWED ALL
THESE AND TAKEN THEM THROUGH YOUR PROCESS?
OR WILL YOU BE ABLE TO DO IT BY THE TIME WE HAVE THIS
MEETING SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE -- THAT THEY ARE
APPROVED THROUGH YOUR NORMAL PROCESS THAT YOU APPLY TO ALL
THE OTHER NONPROFITS?
08:39:00PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
THE ONES THAT ARE REQUESTING CHANGES?
THE ONES IN THE MOTION?
IF -- AGAIN, THROUGH THE CURRENT PROCESS, IF IT IS BELOW 25,
IT WILL COME FOR THE ONE-PAGE PROCESS.
IF IT IS MORE THAN 25, THAT -- THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE
BOILER PLATE LEGAL AGREEMENT AND THE SCOPE OF SERVICES.
SO, YES.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, ONCE THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, THAT IS THE
PLAN TO IMPLEMENT AND EXECUTE THAT GO THROUGH THE FULL
VETTING PROCESS AT THAT TIME.
CAN I SHARE ONE MORE THING WITH COUNCIL?
08:39:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
08:39:35PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
THING IS PRIME FOR THE WORKSHOP DISCUSSION
AND I WANTED TO PUT THE THOUGHT BUBBLE HERE.
WITH SOME OF THESE, I SEE AS SPECIAL EVENTS OPPOSED TO
ECONOMICS DEVELOPMENT OR SOCIAL ACTION AND PURPOSES.
AND IF COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD THAT THERE
IS A NUMBER THAT WE CAN OBVIOUSLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
THERE IS A LOT OF START-UP SPECIAL EVENTS VERY SMALL RUNS
AND VERY DIVERSE TOO.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE SMALL HARD COSTS, THEY ARE GETTING DENIED
AND HAVE TO COME OUT OF POCKET BEFORE THEY GET STARTED AND
CREATE REVENUE STREAM.
AND THEY ARE SELF-CONTAINED IN PARKS.
YOU HAVE KNOW THEY ARE VERY MANAGEABLE EVENTS, AND THEY COME
WITH HARD COSTS.
IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT
REMAINED FOR THE DISCRETION OF A OF TO APPLY THOSE TO THOSE
SPECIAL EVENTS, WE WILL BE HEAPING DOZENS OF SMALL SPECIAL
EVENTS GET OFF THE GROUND SO THEY CAN GET SOME REVENUE, SO
THAT IS SOMETHING TO SAY FOR THE FUTURE --
08:40:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOR THE WORKSHOP.
A GOOD IDEA.
LEFTOVER FUNDING FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED US THAT FALL WITHIN --
I LIKE THAT.
08:40:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
08:40:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID THEY VOTE --
08:40:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MADAM CLERK, DID WE VOTE ALREADY?
08:40:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE DID NOT VOTE.
08:40:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE JUST DID IT.
WE ARE GOOD.
WE HAVE VOTED.
ALL RIGHT.
08:41:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAN I SAY SOMETHING.
08:41:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE BEEN AWAKE SINCE 1 A.M.
08:41:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST FOR OUR FRIENDS, THE RIVER WALK, A
REMINDER A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN -- MY VOICE -- TO
DISCUSS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING AND WE SHOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE CHANGES, AND I WANTED
TO SAY THAT.
THANK YOU.
08:41:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT ABOUT WITH REGARDS FOR.
I MET WITH TAMPA BAY WAVE AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER
COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE.
BECAUSE -- EVEN THOUGH $100,000 HERE.
THE CONVERSATION ISN'T OVER.
I SEE MEMBERS HERE.
SO I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW.
ALL RIGHT.
08:41:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THEY WANT MORE MONEY THAN THIS?
08:41:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
EVERYBODY WANTS MORE MONEY -- NOT ME.
THAT CONCLUDES THAT DISCUSSION.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
YOU HAVE AN ITEM?
08:41:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DO.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REALLOCATE $5 MILLION FOR
SMART CITY GUIDANCE ITEM 10525 IN THE PARKING CIP PROPOSED
BUDGET TO STREET RESURFACING UNDER 1023520 TO WHATEVER THE
NEW NUMBER WILL BE AND THE TRANSPORTATION CIP BUDGET.
08:42:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
CAN I JUST SAY THAT STREET PAVING IS THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT
THAT I CAN GET.
IF WE CAN MAKE ANY INCREASE -- ANY INCREASE ON -- IN OUR
BUDGET FOR THAT.
I UNDERSTAND REGARDING THE SMART -- THE SMART CITY PARKING
GUIDANCE PROGRAM.
MR. BHIDE, YOU HAVE BEEN UP HERE, BUT --
08:42:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DID WE HAVE A SECOND?
08:42:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE GOT A SECOND.
08:42:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ADDRESS THAT FROM THE BUDGET STANDPOINT.
WHERE DO YOU WANT THIS FROM?
08:42:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE PARKING BUDGET.
08:42:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
I KNOW VIK WILL SAY -- A WORTHY PROJECT.
YOU GO TO DISNEY AND THE GARAGES YOU SEE IT.
A LOT OF THESE PLACES AND WE SEE IT.
UNFORTUNATELY THAT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE SCRAMBLING FOR MONEY
TO DO THE BASIC NEED OF REPAVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT
THIS IS THE REALITY WE ARE DEALT WITH.
I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS A WORTHY PROJECT.
I LIKE IT.
I THINK IT IS A NICE THING TO HAVE AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING LIKE THIS SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE, BUT
RIGHT NOW, THE NEED FOR PAVING EXCEED THE NEEDS FOR THIS.
AND WE JUST GOT TO DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO.
WE NEED TO BITE THE BULLET AND SAY THIS IS MORE OF THE NEED.
08:43:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CAN YOU SPEAK ON IN, VIK BHIDE.
08:43:29PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU, VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS PROJECT -- YOU
SAID IT FOR ALL THE RIGHT REASONS, THAT IS WHY WE PROPOSED
THIS PROJECT.
IT, ONE, GIVES REVENUE BACK TO THE CITY.
AND, ALSO, ADDRESSES SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES.
I WANT TO SEE OUR CIP BUDGET FOR PARKING HAS BEEN DEVELOPED
BASED ON WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT TO PUT A MASTER PLAN
TOGETHER.
OUR FIRST YEAR, OUR GOAL WAS TO ADDRESS SOME CHAPTER 15
WHICH IS WHAT PARKING IS UNDER ITEMS THAT FROM A POLICY
PERSPECTIVE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
AND WE SHOULD BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU WITHIN THE NEXT 90
DAYS.
AND THE OTHER WAS, PROGRAMMABILITY, WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS AN
ENTERPRISE.
OVER FIVE YEARS RIGHT NOW THROUGH FY '29, WE HAVE $29
MILLION ALLOCATED FOR MAINTENANCE.
$18 MILLION FOR TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS.
THE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENT MAY NOT SEEM CRITICAL.
RELATIVE TO OTHER -- RELATIVE TO OTHER CHALLENGES, OF
COURSE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT A LOT OF THESE DO WHAT
OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE TO SEND ROAD TRUCKS.
WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF OUR BUSINESS TO DO.
AND THINGS LIKE ENFORCEMENT.
VEHICLES PARKED IN BIKE LANES OR PICK-UP DROP-OFFS FOR MAJOR
EVENTS OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
THAT IS WHAT SOME OF THESE TECHNOLOGY SPENDING IS PROGRAMMED
FOR.
BUT COUNCIL'S POINT IS TOTALLY TAKEN GIVEN TO THE BIGGEST
COMPLAINT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND THAT IS PAVING AND
SIDEWALKS.
AND ALSO DIRECTLY TIED TO OUR SAFETY PROGRAM.
08:45:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. ROGERO, YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT.
08:45:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
A CLARIFICATION GERMANE TO THE $1.5 MILLION
EARLIER TOO.
IF I COULD SUGGEST FOR EVERYBODY'S EASE THAT WE BRING THESE
CHANGES TO YOU IN OCTOBER AGAIN AT THE FIRST MEETING.
08:45:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS FINE.
IS THAT GOOD WITH THE MOTION MAKERS?
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO OFFICIALLY VOTE BASICALLY ON A
RESOLUTION, THAT'S CORRECT?
OR TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION TO THAT MONEY IS MOVED AND
ALLOCATED.
08:45:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, IN OCTOBER, WE HAVE TO BRING YOU A
FINANCIAL RESOLUTION AGAIN FOR YOU TO APPROVE.
THAT MEETS YOUR END GOALS FOR ALL OF THESE MOTIONS.
08:46:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE MOTION WILL STILL STAND.
08:46:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
08:46:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE MOTION WILL STAND AND ROLL IT INTO THE
PROBABLY.
08:46:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YOU SAID IT BETTER THAN I.
08:46:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, IS THAT GOOD YOU WITH.
08:46:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. ROGERO EARLIER TODAY AND THE
PURPOSE BEING, AS YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE BUDGET -- THE WAY
THE CHARTER READS, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE
CHANGES, BUT LOGISTICALLY, IT WORKS BETTER FOR THEM TO BE
ABLE TO DO THAT AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THE COMMITMENT IS BY THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THIS IS ALSO
WHAT THEY ARE BRINGING TO YOU ON OCTOBER 3 WILL BE A
REFLECTION OF ACTION OF ACTIONS YOU MADE TODAY.
08:46:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I BELIEVE ONE OF THE MOTION IS FOR TO YOU
CREATE -- I FORGET THE FANCY TERMINOLOGY, BASICALLY A CHECK
OFF -- A LIST OF ALL THE CHANGES WE WANT TO MAKE.
08:47:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
08:47:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SOMETHING YOU CAN BRING TO US BY THE SECOND
READING -- BY THE SECOND BUDGET HEARING?
08:47:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
ABSOLUTELY.
08:47:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK IF WE HAVE THAT.
WE HAVE THE LIST AND VOTE WITH CONFIDENCE THAT EVERYTHING WE
HAVE.
AND THE CHANGES WE MADE ARE THERE.
08:47:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, MA'AM.
08:47:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:47:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE I -- JUST TO RESTATE MY POSITION
OF -- OF REQUESTING THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT TO GO
BACK AND SCRUB THE BUDGET AND LOOK FOR MORE MONEY REPAVING
TO BE PRESENTED AT THE BUDGET.
I AM NOT LEAVING IT AT JUST THIS.
SO I AM ASKING -- SO WHEN WE SEE THIS AGAIN, THE
ADMINISTRATION WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE BUDGET AND MEET
THAT UNMET NEED THAT WE HAVE FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES FOR
PAVING AND REPAVING.
08:47:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
UNDERSTOOD.
08:47:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
SO, YES?
08:47:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, I HAVE A DIFFERENT THING.
DO WE --
08:47:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DID WE VOTE ON IT?
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN -- NO?
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
THIS IS REGARDING THE SMART CITY PARKING GUIDANCE AND
RESURFACING.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ARE UP.
08:48:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE WITH THIS
ENDING AVAILABLE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
LAST YEAR, WE DECIDED TO MAKE THAT 22%.
AND IT IS UP TO YOU 23%.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT THEY HAVE MONEY AT THE
END OF THE YEAR TO FIT THAT $5 MILLION.
WHAT WE DID WAS TOOK $5 MILLION OUT OF THE BUDGET LAST YEAR
TO GO TOWARD -- I BELIEVE IT WAS HOUSING.
WELL, WE STILL HAVE THAT $5 MILLION, BECAUSE WE ARE UP TO
23%.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD SPEND THAT MONEY.
IF WE WANT TO FIND PAVING MONEY, THERE IT IS.
WE HAVEN'T SCRAMBLING TO FIND MONEY.
IT IS LITERALLY OUR PRIORITIES.
WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES.
08:48:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YEP.
08:48:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I HAVE ONE MORE MOTION TO MAKE ABOUT THIS
-- ABOUT THIS -- I MOTION TO MOVE $500,000 FROM THE
UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR FY '24 TO ART SPACE, WHICH WILL
PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE $40,000 TO 60,000 AMI
PERPETUITY.
I BEEN AT THIS TO COME FROM THIS.
BUT I ALSO -- I MEAN, I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THERE IS FOUR AND
A HALF MILLION SIT THIS UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR 2024.
THESE ARE THE KIND OF STUFF WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
WE TOOK THAT $5 MILLION AND MAGICALLY REAPPEARED.
08:49:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS AWARE THE MONEY IS THERE AND OTHER
-- THAT IS WHY I REQUESTED THE ADMINISTRATION TO SCRUB THIS
BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER AND THEY ARE ALSO AWARE THAT THIS
MONEY IS THERE AND OTHER LINE ITEMS AND THEY ARE MORE
EQUIPPED AND HAVE THE FINANCIAL STAFF TO GO THROUGH THAT AND
PRESENT IT TO US OF THE UNMET NEED.
08:49:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO GO BACK TO ART SPACE, I JUST WANT TO LET
YOU ALTHOUGH THIS IS AN YBOR CITY PROPERTY THAT THE ART
SPACE IS A NATIONAL COMPANY THAT DONE THIS.
WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO -- USE THIS FOR THE SOFT COSTS AND
FUND RAISE TO GET THE EXTRA $6 MILLION THEY NEED.
08:50:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FALLS JUST OUTSIDE THE .
08:50:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FALLS JUST OUTSIDE THE CRA.
THE LEAST AMOUNT WE CAN SPEND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO MAKE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAPPEN.
08:50:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
A MOTION AND A SECOND -- WAIT.
MR. ROGERO AND THEN CARLSON.
08:50:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AGAIN, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT WARN
COUNCIL OF THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH REDUCING THE FUND
BALANCE LESS THAN 23%.
IT IS A SIMILAR WARNING I GAVE LAST YEAR AND COUNCIL DECIDED
TO TAKE THAT ACTION.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT WE HAVE A HISTORY THAT I HAVE SHOWN YOU AND THE RATING
AGENCIES PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT HISTORY.
08:50:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS ONLY $500,000.
08:50:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
UNDERSTOOD.
08:50:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, VIERA AND MIRANDA.
08:50:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I NEED TO TALK TO AND I NEED TO MAKE A
POINT, IF I CAN.
MARTY, I AM FOUNDER, CO-FOUNDER OF THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
ART SPACE -- ART SPACE IS A SEPARATE NONPROFIT, BUT IT IS
ALSO A PROJECT OF THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
I PERSONALLY HAVE CONTRIBUTED MONEY.
MY COMPANIES CONTRIBUTED MONEY.
I DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY ON IT.
I DON'T PERSONALLY GAIN -- I DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL GAIN OR
LOSS BUT I CONTRIBUTED MONEY TO IT.
DO I HAVE A CONFLICT OR NOT?
08:51:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH THIS MOVEMENT OF $500,000.
WILL THIS CAUSE YOU TO HAVE A FINANCIAL GAIN OR FINANCIAL
LOSS.
A FINANCIAL PRIVATE GAIN OR PRIVATE LOSS OR THAT OF YOUR
COMPANY OR ANY RELATIVES?
08:51:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONLY EFFECTS THE NONPROFIT AND NONPROFIT
DON'T HAVE SHAREHOLDERS.
SHELBY YOU ARE NOT --
08:51:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE DONATED TO IT.
08:51:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU ARE NOT AN OFFICER OF THIS COMPANY,
THIS NONPROFIT.
YOU ARE NOT ON THE BOARD.
08:52:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AN OFFICER OF THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
08:52:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE.
08:52:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LOCAL CONDUIT THAT WILL MOST LIKELY WEATHER
WILL FLOW TO THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
IT CAN GO DIRECTLY TO ART SPACE.
08:52:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO YOU ARE ACT BE -- YOU ARE ON THE BOARD
OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE VOTE ON THE PASSAGE OF THIS
MONEY AS A PASS-THROUGH TO THAT ORGANIZATION?
08:52:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL RECUSE MYSELF.
08:52:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:52:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM,
COUNCILMAN.
08:52:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WITH THIS, I WANT TO SPECIFY WHY I AM VOTING THE WAY I AM.
I HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THIS IT IS A WONDERFUL THING.
A BIG CHALLENGE ON THIS.
I SUPPORT AFFORDABLE AND ACTABLE HOUSING FROM WELDERS TO
EDUCATORS, ETC.
IF WE ARE GOING TO FUNDING IS, THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR A
GROUP, WE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
WE TALKED OF SENIORS.
WE TALKED ABOUT VETERANS.
I SUPPORT THAT.
I DON'T SUPPORT CITY TAX DOLLARS THAT SPECIFICALLY GO TO A
VOCATION LIKE THIS.
I CAN'T DO THAT FROM -- I AM FINE WITH TAKING SOME MONEY
FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT IT GOES TO EVERYONE.
AND I THINK US FUNDING THIS IS SOMETHING I AM NOT
COMFORTABLE DOING.
AND I TOLD -- WHEN I SPOKE TO THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE -- SOME
VERY GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE PUSHING FOR THIS THAT I HAVE
HESITANCY WITH THAT.
I KNOW THERE WAS TALK OF EXPANDING THE CRA THIS POTENTIALLY.
SO FOR ME, I KNOW THIS HAS THE VOTES TO PASS.
I WANT TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.
08:53:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:53:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS GOING TO STAY ONCE YOU START
IDENTIFYING WITH A CERTAIN SECTOR, IT 5'7", 5'8" OR 5'9",
SOMETHING FOR THAT SIZE AND BUILT FOR SOME.
IT BECOME A NARROW THING AND I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
08:54:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:54:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS SAN ECONOMIC CATALYST.
A MAGNET.
ONE OF THE ITEMS I HAVE BEEN PUSHING -- A TALE-TALE IF I AM
ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IN BEFORE I LEAVE COUNCIL.
I WANT TO DO A SIMILAR THING FOR BLACK ARTISTS AS CATALYST.
I THINK AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR
BLACK ARTISTS TO SHOWCASE BLACK ART.
TO BE ABLE TO LIVE, WORK AND DISPLAY AND SELL IN THAT AREA.
AGAIN, ECONOMIC CAT LIST.
THESE ARE THINGS -- YOU SEE THEM AROUND AND SEE PLACES
AROUND THE COUNTRY, THESE THINGS THEY WORK.
AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SOMETHING THAT IS -- THAT IS --
IT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IT IS GOOD FOR -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE BECAUSE
WE HAVE SOMEBODY BE WHO IS WILLING TO STEP FORWARD AND DO
THIS.
I HAVE BEEN PUSHING THIS FROM DAY ONE.
I HAD CONVERSATION FOR FOLKS AND BEFORE NICOLE LEFT, THEY
ALL KNEW THAT -- AND THAT I WAS A BIG ADVOCATE FOR EAST
TAMPA.
I THINK THAT -- I THINK THAT IT IS NOT JUST -- NOT JUST
AN MYOPIC LOOK FOR SOMETHING.
IT IS GOOD FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
08:55:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS GREAT.
YOU SHOULD SAY PEOPLE OF COLOR.
A LOT OF ARTISTS.
WE WANT TO BE INCLUSIVE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT OUR CITY IS.
WEST SIDE OF TOWN CAN BENEFIT.
08:55:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY COULD.
08:55:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE 27 ACRES THERE THAT WE NEED TO DO
SOMETHING WITH.
WE CAN BUILD A BEAUTIFUL SOMETHING, SOMETHING.
I AM.
I AM NOT OPPOSED TO YOUR IDEA, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE
INCLUSIVE.
NOT JUST BLACK ARTISTS BUT HISPANIC ARTISTS, WOMEN, IN
GENERAL, WE HAVE VERY TALENTED PEOPLE AND THEY WERE
SHOWCASED RECENTLY AT THE ARTS MUSEUM CALLED SKY SOMETHING.
JUST LOCAL A TESTS WHO -- WHO WERE ABLE TO PUT THEIR WORK IN
-- YOU KNOW, THAT BEAUTIFUL SPACE.
BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT.
AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE INCLUSIVE BECAUSE
FALLS IN LINE WITH WHO WE ARE AS A CITY.
08:56:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE TALKING OF HIS PROJECT.
08:56:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HE SAID BLACKS IN EAST TAMPA.
08:56:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE TALK BECOME THAT --
08:56:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOME PLACE THIS IS HISTORICALLY -- SO
CONNECTED.
AND -- I AM SORRY -- SO PLACE THAT IS SO HISTORICALLY
CORRECTED.
AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR ECONOMIC CATALYST TO BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT AND RETAIL AND -- AND --
08:56:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
20 ACRES IN WEST COMPANY THAT FOOT THAT
BILL IN AT THAT BLACK COMMUNITY.
08:56:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DIFFERENT PROJECTS DIFFERENT PLACES.
RIGHT PROJECT, RIGHT PLACE.
THIS STANDS ON ITS OWN BECAUSE NOT WELFARE, AN ECONOMIC
CATALYST.
08:56:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:57:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHAT ARE WE VOTING FOR AGAIN.
08:57:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOR THE $500,000.
08:57:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
$5,000 FOR ART SPACE.
ALAMEDA MONEY FROM THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
08:57:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:57:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
08:57:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
08:57:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
08:57:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
08:57:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
08:57:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
08:57:26PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES.
[INAUDIBLE]
08:57:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL CAUTION COUNCIL -- YES, $4.5
MILLION THAT YOU MENTIONED.
BUT LET'S WAIT FOR THAT CIT RENEWAL VOTE IN NOVEMBER.
BE CAREFUL UNTIL THEN.
08:57:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T DISAGREE, BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU
KNOW, THERE IS -- I MEAN, IF WE HAVE THE -- IF WE HAVE THE
AVAILABLE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE TO GO INTO THIS, MOST
LIKELY WE HAVE MORE ELSEWHERE.
08:57:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY --
08:57:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MA'AM, MA'AM.
08:58:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I DIDN'T HEAR HER, WHAT SHE SAID.
08:58:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:58:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A GENERAL COMMENT OF THE GENERAL FUND
BALANCE.
I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO RESTORE IT BACK TO
WHERE IT WAS.
IN 2010 IT WAS $150 MILLION IN 2010.
IT WAS RATED AND WE ARE BACK AT $1 50 MILLION.
THE PROBLEM IS MR. ROGERO WILL SAY THIS ALSO, THE BASIC
EXPECTATION OF THE -- OF THE -- OF THE RATING AGENCIES IS
THAT WE KEEP 20%.
BUT WE HAD CONSISTENT -- WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY AT A
HIGHER LEVEL.
AND WE DID THAT BECAUSE THE -- BECAUSE WE NEED A RAINY DAY
FUND.
THE RAINY DAY FUND IS 3%.
AND THAT IS NOT ENOUGH.
WE CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE A MONTH ON THAT PROBABLY.
AND SO IF -- WITH IF WE -- A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
PREDICTING A PRESESSION FOR A LONG TIME.
THE ECONOMY DEFINITELY IS SLOWING DOWN IN ANTICIPATION OF
THE ELECTION.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT THE ELECTION, IF WE HIT A
-- IF WE HIT A DOWN ECONOMY, SOME -- WE WILL HAVE A
SITUATION SIMILAR FOR WHAT WE HAD A FEW YEARS AGO AND WE
COULD END UP HAVING A SHORTFALL OF REVENUES.
SEVERAL DEVELOPERS HAVE TOLD ME THEY ARE GOING BACK AND
RENEGOTIATING WITH THE TAX APPRAISER TO TRY TO LOWER THE
EVALUATION OF THEIR BUSINESSES WHICH WILL LOWER OUR INCOME
AS WELL.
AND THAT -- AND THE 20%.
WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT TOUCH BECAUSE THE BOND RATINGS CANS
WILL GO DO YOU KNOW.
THE ONLY THING IS 3%.
EXPECTATION WE STAYED UP AT A HIGHER LEVEL OF 20%.
THE EXPECTATION WE WILL KEEP CONSISTENCY THERE.
I WILL CAUTION US FROM DIPPING INTO THAT ANYMORE.
08:59:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR -- THANK YOU,
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
YOUR QUITE RIGHT.
AND IF I CAN JUST TAKE US BACK A LITTLE BIT AND COUNCILMAN
CARLSON REFERENCED THIS SOME OF THIS AS DID COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
YOU KNOW AS WE GO FORWARD, OUR MANTRA IS REASONABLE BUT
CONSERVATIVE.
THAT IS WHAT THESE PROJECTIONS ARE AND THE SAME LAST YEAR,
AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS QUITE RIGHT.
WE HAD A BETTER YEAR THAN ANTICIPATED, SO WE HAD A LARGER
FUND BALANCE.
AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT $5 MILLION.
FURTHER TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S COMMENT, EVEN THOUGH OUR
POLICY IS 20%, AND IT IS A VERY GOOD POLICY, AS HE SAID, WE
HAVE BEEN SO CONSISTENTLY ABOVE THAT POLICY.
THERE IS AN EX-MECHANICTATION ON THE PART OF THE MARKET AND
THE RATING AGENCIES THAT WE MAINTAIN THE LEVEL WE HAVE
REGARDLESS OF WHAT OUR POLICY IS.
SO WHEN WE END A YEAR LESS THAN 23 SIEWART THERE IS A RISK
INVOLVED IN THAT AND MY JOB TO TELL YOU OF THE POTENTIAL
RISK.
IF OUR REASONABLE AND CONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS WE COME
SHORTER THAN ANTICIPATED.
THERE IS LIKELY TO BE AN ADVERSE EFFECT FROM A CREDIT RATING
PERSPECTIVE.
IF WE COME IN GREATER AS WE DID THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE IN
OTHER YEARS, WELL, THAT IS FANTASTIC.
THEN -- AND I BELIEVE WE ARE COMING BACK -- COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK'S MOTION.
I BELIEVE WE ARE COMING BACK IN NOVEMBER TO TALK ABOUT THE
FUND BALANCE AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE INTRICACIES AND
PHILOSOPHIES GOING FORWARD IN APPROPRIATING THAT FUND
BALANCE.
MY JOB TO LET YOU KNOW THERE IS A RISK OF SIGNIFICANTLY
REDUCING THE FUND BALANCE BELOW 23%.
THANK YOU.
09:01:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:01:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. ROGERO, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IF I MAY.
09:01:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
09:01:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FOR -- I SHOULD HAVE WROTE DOWN WHAT I WAS
GOING TO SAY.
FIRST -- I THINK I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT STATION 24.
WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET -- REMIND ME WHAT IS ON THE AMONG FOR
THAT THIS YEAR.
IS THAT DESIGN?
09:02:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF YOU JUST GIVE ME ONE MOMENT.
09:02:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET -- BUDGET.
THERE IS MONEY FROM PREVIOUS BUDGETS.
09:02:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
09:02:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE MONEY FROM PREVIOUS BUDGETS.
THE ONLY MONEY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR IN CAPITAL
IS $450,000 FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF FIRE STATION -- I BELIEVE
IT IS 9.
BUT THE MONEY IS THERE.
THE PROBLEM IS LIKE -- LIKE THE PRESIDENT SAID, WE ARE NOT
GETTING IT DONE.
WE ALLOCATED THE MONEY, AND IT IS JUST -- IT HAVEN'T BEEN
THE PRIORITY THAT WE WANT IT TO BE.
09:02:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, SIR, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OR
SOMETHING COMING BACK ON THE MOTION WE MADE HERE AT CITY
COUNCIL ON BONDS FOR STATION 24.
WHEN IS THAT COMING BACK TO US. IS THAT IN NOVEMBER?
IF YOU KNOW.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW, COME BACK TO ME.
09:02:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DO.
IF I CAN BEGIN WITH THIS.
THIS IS FROM OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION.
YOU SEE FIRE STATION 24.
AND FISCAL YEAR 2025.
NOT QUITE 1.2 MILLION ANTICIPATED.
'26-'27 OF 20 MILLION.
ANTICIPATED AS BEING A PART OF THE LONG AD VALOREM BOND.
WE ANTICIPATE COMING TO YOU FOR THE FIRST OF YEAR ON THAT.
09:03:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I REMEMBER REMOTIONED ON THIS.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAKE MOTIONS ON THIS.
I PROBABLY WILL DO IT ON THURSDAY.
BUT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A FORMAL MOTION.
NUMBER ONE, JUST REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY
STAKEHOLDERS ON THE CIP AND I WILL THINK OF HOW THIS MAKE
THAT, ETC.
LOOK, WE ARE TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM THE ELECTION.
WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.
AND WE HAVE THE CIT VOTE IF WE DON'T PASS THIS, WE ARE ALL
ON A LOT OF TROUBLE.
AND ISSUES WITH TRANSPORTATION, PARKS, PUBLIC SAFETY, ETC.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ALL HANDS ON DECK.
I REACHED OUT TO OUR WONDERFUL MAJOR IN TEMPLE TERRACE, ANDY
ROSS AND REACHING OUT TO FOLKS AT DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS TO
MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS ENGAGED ON THIS ISSUE BECAUSE SO
VERY IMPORTANT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT THAT ISSUE WAS COMING
BACK US TO FOR THE ADDITIONAL AS YOU HIGHLIGHTED $20 MILLION
FOR STATION 24 BECAUSE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO GET THAT DONE.
MY HOPES FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WAS THREE THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, THAT WE GET DONE WITH 24 WITHIN THE NEXT -- I
WILL ASK CHIEF TRIPP.
I HAVE ASKED CHIEF TRIPP ABOUT THAT AND WE TALKED OF A
CERTAIN TIME FRAME, A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF THAT WE MAY BE
THAT WE GET LAND FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE.
GET THAT FUNDED.
AND MAKE REAL PROGRESS ON DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THE STATION
THERE.
SOME SORT OF REAL PROGRESS THERE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, IF I MAY, FOR CHIEF TRIPP SITTING
THERE SORE PATIENTLY.
THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
I APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.
09:05:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
09:05:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HI, MA'AM.
09:05:17PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
09:05:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOOD EVENING.
QUESTION FOR YOU.
I ASKED YOU -- YOU HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY.
I KNOW LAST TIME I ASKED BUT THE CAD SYSTEM.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DID YOU SAY THAT WAS GOING TO BE
ACCOMPLISHED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, OR WAS I WRONG IN THAT
REGARD TRIM TRIPP AS FOR IMPLEMENTING IT, YES, YOU ARE
WRONG.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COMPANY IN NEXT RIGHT NOW.
SO I AM HOPING TO START IMPLEMENT NATION BY THE END OF THE
YEAR.
THAT IS MY HOPE.
09:05:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
DO YOU NEED ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THAT FROM THIS YEAR'S
BUDGET?
09:05:54PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I THINK IT IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
I THINK IT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR THE BUDGET.
09:05:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
09:05:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS '24 MONEY TRIM TRIPP '24 MONEY.
09:06:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO FURTHER.
09:06:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:06:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK ON THE CIT, BUT
SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
I AM NOT ONE TO GIVE TAXPAYERS MONEY FOR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.
NEVER HAVE BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WORDING ON HOW IT IS GOING TO
BE PUT ON THE BALLOT.
I DON'T KNOW.
NO ONE KNOWS.
AND IT BETTER BE EXPLAINED TO THE TAXPAYERS WHAT THEY ARE
VOTING FOR A AND WHAT WE ARE SPENDING OUR MONEY AT.
UP DIDN'T VOTE IT FOR FIRST TIME.
AND I WOULD DOUBT IF I WILL VOTE FOR IT THE SECOND TIME.
AND THE REASON IS VERY SIMPLE, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT
YOU WANT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND YET WE ARE GIVING MOST
OF IT AWAY.
AND I DON'T MIND SAYING THAT DIRECTLY TO ANYONE.
I AM NOT DIFFERENT THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
BUT THE TAXPAYERS MONEY BELONGS TO THE TAXPAYERS.
NOT TO ME TO GIVE AWAY.
WHEN THINGS WERE DONE, I WOULD IMAGINE WE GIVE AWAY A GOOD
$300 MILLION OR $400 MILLION AND I WILL HAVE DETAILED HOW TO
FIGURE IT OUT AND HOW IT CAME UP.
BUT WE GAVE IT ALL AWAY.
SOMETHING THAT WAS TURNED DOWN, ONE, WAS VALUED MORE THAN
365 MILLION LAST YEAR AND THE TOTAL VALUE OF THAT ASSET IS
AT LEAST $6 BILLION.
I AM NOT HERE TO SUPPORT ANYONE THAT HAS THE CAPITAL SUPPORT
THEM 70s.
THAT'S ALL.
09:07:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:07:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE CIT BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO HELP
BUILD MORE FIRE STATIONS AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE NEED THAT.
CHIEF TRIPP, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
I KNOW WE HAVE -- WE -- WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THIS WEEK'S
AGENDA FOR THE PUMPS -- THE FIRE TRUCKS THAT HAVE -- YES.
SO THAT -- THAT IS FROM FY '24 MONEY OBVIOUSLY.
09:08:09PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES.
09:08:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IN FY '25.
WHAT YOU HAVE PLANNED TO PURCHASE.
09:08:19PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I BELIEVE I PUT IN FOR THE CIT.
WE WERE GETTING TWO AN.
AN AN ADDITIONAL THREE.
09:08:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WITH THAT, ONE LADDER TRUCK.
09:08:31PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
A LADDER TRUCK.
COUPLE MORE CARS AND A COUPLE MORE ENGINES.
09:08:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE GOOD WITH THAT.
THAT IS A GOOD SPOT TO BE IN.
09:08:40PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES.
I PUT IT IN THE PLAN EVERY OTHER YEAR BECAUSE I EXPLAINED
ONE, THE LEAD TIME TO GET THE PURCHASE UP TO 48 MONTHS.
WE HAVE KIND OF A ROTATION REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE GOING ON
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT -- SAME
AMOUNT OF FIRE FIGHTERS FOR FY '25 THAT YOU HAVE FOR '24.
THE SAME FTEs.
09:09:07PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I DID PUT IN FOR A SAFER GRANT FOR THE 18
POSITIONS.
09:09:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THERE IS NOT FUNDING FOR
THAT IF WE DON'T RECEIVE THE POSITIONS OR IF WE DON'T
RECEIVE THE GRANT.
HOW LONG WILL THE GRANT LAST?
09:09:21PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
KIND OF LIKE PRORATED AND GOES OVER THREE
YEARS.
09:09:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE WE PREPARED AS A CITY IF WE GET THAT
GRANT TO PAY FOR -- BECAUSE IF IT IS LIKE THE POLICE GRANT,
IT STARTS, 75%.
NOT 100%.
ARE WE PREPARED FOR THAT 25% IF WE -- IF WE WIN THE GRANT?
09:09:43PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES.
THE FIRST YEAR -- 100% AND BREAKS DOWN FROM THERE.
HOW DOES -- BECAUSE I THINK THE FIRST YEAR IS LIKE THE 100%
AND EVERY YEAR FOR THE THREE YEARS, LIKE ANOTHER 75 AND 50
AND THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE AFTER THE THIRD YEAR.
09:09:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE HAVE FORECASTED THE ANTICIPATED EXPENSE.
THE ONLY UNCERTAINTY IS THE ONLY YEAR THAT CITY COUNCIL
APPROPRIATES.
SO IS THE ENSUING INCREASE OF COST AND IN THE SUCCESSIVE
YEARS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE DO THE
BUDGET PROCESS.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM?
09:10:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT WE ARE PREPARED TO FUND WHATEVER IS
NECESSARY IN THIS YEAR IF WE WIN THOSE 18?
09:10:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
09:10:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL I WANT TO KNOW.
09:10:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:10:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SEE WE HAD TO MAKE YOU SITTING OUT THERE
WORTH WHERE YOU ARE WHILE WHILE YOU WERE THERE CAPTIVE TRIM
TRIPP OKAY.
09:10:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CURIOUS ABOUT THE CAD SYSTEM.
SINS ELECTED.
WHY IT WAS IT TAKING SO LONG.
YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.
09:10:52PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
HONESTLY, I WISH YOU KNEW.
JUST THE PROCESS.
IT HAS BEEN TAKING A LONG TIME.
WE -- WE HAD DEMOS LAST YEAR AND JUST MEETING WITH THE
DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WE HAD BETWEEN THE FOUR VENDORS.
BROKE IT DOWN TO TWO.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN WAS THE SAME
THING THAT HAPPENED WITH THE LAST CAD PRIOR TO ME GETTING IN
THIS POSITION THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE SUITABLE FOR TAMPA
FIRE RESCUE AS WELL THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SO THE COMPANY WE HAVE NOW IS A KNOWN RESPECTABLE COMPANY
AND I THINK THEY WILL DO GOOD FOR TAMPA.
WE WILL SEE -- ONCE WE GET THIS NEXT PART GOING, I THINK IT
WILL BE SMOOTH SAILING FROM THERE
09:11:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS THE TIMELINE OF FULL
IMPLEMENTATION WHEN YOU HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE?
09:11:40PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
LIKE I SAID, MY PLAN -- HOPEFULLY GET THE
NEXT.
SHOULD BE ON YOU GUYS' DESK BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND
START IMPLEMENTATION BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
09:11:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A 12 MONTH.
09:11:53PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
12 TO 18 MONTHS.
09:11:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOING A LONG WAY AND CONCERN OF RESPONSE
TIME.
09:11:58PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
IT WILL HELP OUT.
BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN AS I HAVE BEEN STATING FOR THE LAST THREE
YEARS, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE IS OUTDATED.
09:12:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SAW IT.
EXACTLY.
09:12:09PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
WE ARE DEALING OFF OF 19 1970s WITH SOME OF
OUR RESPONSE.
ONCE THIS GETS IMPLEMENTED, RESPOND UNITS AND HELP DECREASE
THE USAGE FOR OUR ENGINES RESPONDING FOR CALLS WHEN THEY
DON'T NEED THROB.
AND BASICALLY USE A LOT OF RESCUE SO AS WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO
UTILIZE THE ENGINES
SO ALL OF THAT WILL BE ADJUSTED.
09:12:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ADDITIONAL 18 FTEs YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WE ARE RUNNING IN A DEFICIT THAT WE NEED THOSE 18 PEOPLE.
BE WHAT STATIONS ARE WE SHORT THAT YOU HAVE TO ADD FTEs --
09:12:46PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
AS I HAVE BEEN SAYING THE MELD CAL CALLS,
90,000, 80,000 MEDICAL.
BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS, WE NEED MORE TRANSPORT UNITS.
FIVE STATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE TRANSPORT UNITS.
AND THOSE ARE SIMILAR TO HEAT.
THE TWO HE WILL IS TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL FIVE TRANSPORT
UNITS.
09:13:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED BE PREPARED -- THE NEXT COUNCIL
WILL BE ABLE TO PREPARE ONCE THAT GRANT STARTS STEP DOWN.
09:13:11PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES.
09:13:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THOSE 18 ARE NEEDS, NOT WANTS.
09:13:14PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THOSE ARE NEEDS.
09:13:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR
THE MILLAGE RATE.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED FROM
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:13:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SOMEBODY IN THE BACK THAT WANTS TO SPEAK?
09:13:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM GOING BY THE SCRIPT TO MAKE SURE WE
DO EVERYTHING.
PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAD IT.
I AM JUST GOING BY THE SCRIPT.
09:13:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS LONG GONE.
09:13:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANTED TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS.
DOES COUNCIL NEED A BREAK OR CITY STAFF?
I AM JUST GOING BY THE SCRIPT.
09:13:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU NEED A BREAK, MR. CHAIR?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT
THE MILLAGE RATE OF 6. 076 AND MORE, TO TENTATIVELY ADOPT
THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE OF 6.2076 MILLS WHICH IS 4.00 MORE
THAN THE ROLLBACK MILLAGE OF 59169 MILLS FOR PROPERTIES, TAX
FUNDS WHICH HAVE USED TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING
BUDGET AND THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FUNDS OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
09:14:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR.
09:14:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES?
09:14:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I'M SORRY.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
SLIGHT CORRECTION, 5.69691.
09:14:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
5.6916.
09:14:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
09:14:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
09:14:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. ROGERO.
I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION EVERY YEAR, BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF
THE PUBLIC TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS -- IF YOU READ THIS THE
WRONG WAY, IT -- SOMEBODY CAN TAKE IT THE WRONG -- WHAT THIS
MEANS IS THAT -- THAT THE -- THE 6.2076, THAT IS THE SAME
MILLAGE RATE AS LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE AND THE YEAR
BEFORE.
SO WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE MILLAGE RATE.
09:15:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YOU ARE NOT.
CARLSON CHARLOTTE IS IT BASED ON THE 4% -- THE ESTIMATE OF
THE INCREASE IN THE SRAM EWE OF PROPERTY.
IF YOUR PROPERTY VALUE WENT UP, YOU MAY PAY MORE.
SOME PROPERTIES MAY GO DOWN.
BUT WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE TAX RATE.
THE ONLY REASON IT WOULD CHANGE IF YOUR PROPERTY VALUE WOULD
CHANGE.
09:15:43PM >> CORRECT.
09:15:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WANT TO MAKE SURE.
09:15:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT INCREASING
IT.
09:15:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YOU ARE NOT.
09:15:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:15:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
09:15:54PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
09:15:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
09:15:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
09:15:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
09:15:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
09:16:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
09:16:02PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:16:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
FINANCE CHAIR, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
READ THE ORDINANCE.
09:16:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, SIR.
09:16:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOR ITEM NUMBER 2 ON THE AGENDA, FIRST
READING.
09:16:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 13.
READING THE ORDINANCE --
09:16:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO WE ARE CLEAR.
ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC, ITEM NUMBER 2
ON THE AGENDA, THE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION.
09:16:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
13 ON THE CHART.
BUT NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA.
09:16:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM READING THE RIGHT ONE?
I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
09:16:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
09:16:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ORDINANCE ADOPTING A BUDGET OF THE CITY
OF TAMPA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2024 AND
SENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2025 PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY OF -- AS
PROVIDED FOR A TAX ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA AND FIXING THE MILLAGE RATE WITHIN THE CITY.
MAKING APPROPRIATION INFORMATION ACCORDANCE WITH THE
PROVISIONS OF SAID BUDGET AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
MAYOR AND CITY CLERK AGGRAVATED THE PROPER AUTHORITY OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA TO CERTIFY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA.
THE MILLAGE TO BE LEVY FOR 2025 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:17:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
ROLL CALL.
09:17:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
09:17:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
09:17:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
09:17:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
09:17:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
09:17:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
09:17:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
09:17:32PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
ADOPTION OF THE MILLAGE RATE AND SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE AN ADOPTION OF THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT BUDGET AND PROGRESS LOUIS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025
THROUGH FISCAL 2029 WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 17, 2024 AT
5:01 P.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS THIRD FLORIDA, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602.
09:18:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
09:18:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
THAT FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM VIERA.
WAIT, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA, MR. SHELBY, INFORMATION REPORT.
THAT APPROPRIATE ORDER?
09:18:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT AN ERROR.
09:18:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
09:18:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOTION.
09:18:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
09:18:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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