TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 2024, 9:00 A.M.
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9:02:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:02:12AM WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:02:13AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO -- WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
9:02:17AM MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR INVOCATION.
9:02:20AM BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PASSING OF SOMEBODY VERY
9:02:23AM SPECIAL TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:02:25AM MARGARITA GONZALEZ, MANY OF WHOM WE KNOW.
9:02:28AM I'VE KNOWN HER MY WHOLE LIFE.
9:02:30AM PEOPLE HERE HAVE KNOWN HER EVEN LONGER.
9:02:33AM SHE WAS WITH THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE, MAYOR'S HISPANIC
9:02:37AM ADVISORY COUNCIL, JUST THE RESUM , THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
9:02:42AM IF THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE OF AN ANGEL, THIS IS WHO THIS PERSON
9:02:46AM WAS.
9:02:47AM MY CONDOLENCES, OUR CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO HER FAMILY.
9:02:50AM SHE WAS VERY SPECIAL TO THIS COMMUNITY.
9:02:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO THAT TOO.
9:02:57AM SHE WAS ONE OF THE NICEST PEOPLE I KNEW.
9:02:59AM WHEN I CAME BACK TO TAMPA BACK IN '94, SHE WAS ONE OF THE
9:03:03AM FIRST PEOPLE THAT WELCOMED ME.
9:03:05AM SHE'S BEEN LIKE FAMILY TO SO MANY PEOPLE AND HAS BEEN SUCH A
9:03:08AM GREAT KIND LEADER IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:03:10AM IT'S SAD.
9:03:12AM WE NEED MORE LEADERS LIKE THAT, NOT FEWER.
9:03:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEP.
9:03:15AM IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY
9:03:17AM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:03:18AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:03:35AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:03:37AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:03:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:03:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:03:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:03:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:03:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:03:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:03:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:04:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:00AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:04:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:04:03AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 22, 2024
9:04:06AM WORKSHOP AND THEN THE EVENING SESSION HELD ON AUGUST 29,
9:04:09AM 2024.
9:04:10AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:04:11AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:04:12AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:04:13AM AYE.
9:04:13AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:04:14AM WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
9:04:16AM I RECEIVED A MEMO FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK TO PULL ITEMS
9:04:20AM -- AND THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC.
9:04:22AM 28, 33, 34, AND 55 IN ONE GROUP.
9:04:28AM WE'LL HEAR THOSE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:04:30AM AND THEN THE SECOND GROUP TO BE PULLED ARE 40 AND 42
9:04:34AM TOGETHER RIGHT AFTER ON STAFF REPORTS, IS THAT CORRECT?
9:04:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THANK YOU.
9:04:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
9:04:40AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:04:42AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:04:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:04:43AM AYE.
9:04:44AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:04:44AM ALL RIGHT.
9:04:47AM LET ME GO THROUGH THE AGENDA HERE.
9:04:50AM WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR -- DO WE DO THE CONTINUANCE WHEN WE
9:04:57AM OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1:30 FOR 64.
9:05:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
9:05:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL WAIT ON 64.
9:05:02AM WE'LL GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS AND BUSINESS.
9:05:04AM CHIEF OF STAFF, DO YOU HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE?
9:05:06AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:05:09AM GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
9:05:10AM ORIGINALLY WE DID NOT.
9:05:10AM BUT AFTER LAST NIGHT'S STORM, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL
9:05:14AM FOR MR. BHIDE TO COME IN, VIK BHIDE, OUR DIRECTOR OF
9:05:18AM MOBILITY AND STORMWATER, JUST TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON
9:05:21AM WITH THE TORRENTIAL RAINSTORMS AND OUR CAPACITY AS IT
9:05:25AM RELATES TO OVERALL RAINFALL DURING THE SEASON.
9:05:27AM PROBABLY A THREE TO FIVE MINUTE, HE MAY BE EVEN VIRTUAL FOR
9:05:31AM THAT, COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
9:05:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, ABSOLUTELY.
9:05:33AM IT WAS MISERABLE.
9:05:34AM IT WAS A NIGHTMARE.
9:05:35AM ITEM NUMBER 66, WOULD WE LIKE STAFF PRESENT FOR THAT?
9:05:39AM IT IS A $4.5 MILLION ITEM.
9:05:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
9:05:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT A YES?
9:05:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, I DON'T THINK WE DO.
9:05:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO ON 66.
9:05:47AM 67 GOES ALONG WITH 68.
9:05:50AM NO.
9:05:53AM ITEM NUMBER 69, ALMOST 4 MILLION.
9:05:58AM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. BAIRD.
9:06:00AM DO WE NEED HIM PRESENT?
9:06:01AM NO.
9:06:02AM NO ON 69.
9:06:03AM HOW ABOUT 70?
9:06:04AM NO.
9:06:08AM ALL RIGHT.
9:06:09AM ITEM NUMBER 71.
9:06:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, PLEASE.
9:06:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES ON 71.
9:06:13AM ITEM 72?
9:06:16AM >> YES.
9:06:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:06:17AM LET'S HAVE A YES.
9:06:18AM 73.
9:06:20AM YES ON 73.
9:06:24AM 74 WE HAVE A MEMO.
9:06:29AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:06:30AM YES.
9:06:31AM ITEM 75.
9:06:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 74.
9:06:36AM JUST A REMINDER THAT I BELIEVE LAST WEEK COUNCILWOMAN
9:06:40AM HENDERSON MADE A MOTION FOR GENERALLY -- FOR THE WORKSHOP.
9:06:48AM OKAY.
9:06:49AM AND YOU WANT SOMEBODY HERE FOR THIS ITEM.
9:06:51AM MR. MULKEY OR SOMEBODY FROM STAFF.
9:06:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, I STILL WANT SOMEONE BECAUSE THE
9:06:56AM PUBLIC IS LISTENING.
9:06:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMEBODY HERE FOR 74.
9:06:59AM 75?
9:06:59AM YES.
9:07:01AM ALL RIGHT.
9:07:02AM ITEM 76.
9:07:03AM YES.
9:07:04AM 77?
9:07:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I --
9:07:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A PowerPoint.
9:07:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THIS COULD TIE IN WITH THE
9:07:17AM ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, MR. BHIDE, BECAUSE IT IS A PIPE
9:07:20AM ISSUE.
9:07:20AM NOT QUITE THE SAME.
9:07:22AM YEAH, LET'S HAVE HIM HERE FOR THE PowerPoint.
9:07:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT 78?
9:07:26AM A WRITTEN REPORT, YES OR NO?
9:07:30AM >> YES.
9:07:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:07:31AM 79?
9:07:32AM YES.
9:07:32AM ITEM NUMBER 80 IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:07:37AM THERE IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 17, 2024.
9:07:41AM CAN I GET A MOTION?
9:07:41AM MOTION FOR ITEM 80 TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 17, 2024, BY
9:07:47AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:07:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:07:50AM AYE.
9:07:51AM IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I ASK FOR AN APPROVAL OF THE
9:07:55AM AGENDA?
9:07:55AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THEN THE CHANGES
9:07:59AM WERE MADE, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:08:00AM DISCUSSION?
9:08:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I SUGGEST AND WOULD
9:08:04AM RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL TO MOVE THOSE BIG-TICKET ITEMS, 66, 67,
9:08:09AM 68, 69, 70, AND 74, ALONG WITH THE STAFF REPORTS SO IT GETS
9:08:13AM THOSE OFF THE AGENDA, MOVE THAT AT THAT POINT AFTER THAT --
9:08:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
9:08:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL DO IT NOW.
9:08:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
9:08:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR CLARITY, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, MOTION
9:08:28AM TO MOVE THOSE --
9:08:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TO DO IT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:33AM INSTEAD OF TAKING IT UP UNDER STAFF REPORTS, TAKE IT WITH
9:08:36AM THE CONSENT DOCKET.
9:08:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA
9:08:39AM WITH THE CHANGES.
9:08:40AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:08:41AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:08:42AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:43AM AYE.
9:08:44AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:08:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
9:08:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:08:48AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:09:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:09:08AM IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE HERE TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF TAMPA
9:09:11AM CITY COUNCIL OUR TAMPA POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:09:13AM LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, WE ALWAYS DO THIS FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS
9:09:16AM AS WELL AS OUR FIREFIGHTERS TO REFLECT ON HOW IMPORTANT
9:09:20AM PUBLIC SAFETY IS HERE TO OUR CITY OF TAMPA AND FOR OUR
9:09:23AM POLICE OFFICERS TO SHOW THAT OUR CITY OF TAMPA SUPPORTS LAW
9:09:25AM ENFORCEMENT AND THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO.
9:09:27AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL'S AMAZING WORK WILL BE
9:09:32AM CHIEF KATE.
9:09:34AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:09:36AM DEPUTY CHIEF RUTH KATE ON BEHALF OF CHIEF BERCAW WHO SENDS
9:09:41AM HIS REGRETS.
9:09:42AM INTRODUCE TO YOU DETECTIVE JUAN RAMOS FROM OUR HOMICIDE
9:09:46AM SQUAD.
9:09:46AM HE'S BEEN A DETECTIVE FOR SOME TIME BUT WE'LL ONLY HIGHLIGHT
9:09:50AM ONE CASE WHICH YOU MAY RECOGNIZE AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY
9:09:53AM HE IS OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR SEPTEMBER 2024.
9:09:56AM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE DETECTIVE
9:09:59AM JUAN RAMOS AS OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:10:01AM THE EXCEPTIONAL DEDICATION, INVESTIGATIVE SKILLS AND
9:10:04AM COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS DEMONSTRATED BY DETECTIVE RAMOS WERE
9:10:07AM INSTRUMENTAL IN SOLVING A HIGH-PROFILE HOMICIDE CASE.
9:10:11AM ON JUNE 23rd, 2024, A FATAL SHOOTING OCCURRED AT A LOCAL
9:10:16AM HOTEL RESULTING IN THE DEATH OF A MUSICAL ARTIST CHARLES
9:10:21AM JONES, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS JULIO FOOLIO.
9:10:26AM DETECTIVE RAMOS COMMITTED HIMSELF FULLY TO THIS COMPLEX
9:10:30AM CASE.
9:10:30AM HIS FIRST HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION AS THE LEAD DETECTIVE.
9:10:33AM WORKING MORE THAN 140 HOURS IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS ALONE AND
9:10:38AM PLACED AN OBVIOUS STRAIN ON HIS FAMILY, WHO FULLY SUPPORTS
9:10:42AM HIM, HE WENT IN RELENTLESS PURSUIT OF JUSTICE FOR MR. JONES.
9:10:48AM THROUGH METICULOUS INVESTIGATION AND COLLABORATION WITH THE
9:10:52AM JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, DETECTIVE RAMOS SUCCESSFULLY
9:10:55AM IDENTIFIED FIVE SUSPECTS LINKED TO THE HOMICIDE.
9:10:58AM THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE FOUND TO HAVE TRAVELED FROM
9:11:01AM JACKSONVILLE WITH THE INTENT OF TARGETING MR. JONES.
9:11:05AM DETECTIVE RAMOS TIRELESS EFFORTS, STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AND
9:11:09AM STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP WITH THE JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF'S OFFICE
9:11:11AM PLAYED A CRUCIAL ROLE IN QUICKLY BRINGING FOUR OF THESE
9:11:15AM INDIVIDUALS INTO CUSTODY.
9:11:17AM ONE MORE IS STILL OUTSTANDING, BUT WE WILL GET HIM.
9:11:20AM BEYOND THE RESULTS OF THE IMMEDIATE HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION,
9:11:23AM DETECTIVE RAMOS' TENACITY HAD A FAR-REACHING IMPACT.
9:11:29AM HIS DILIGENT EFFORTS LED TO THE DISCOVERY OF NEW EVIDENCE
9:11:31AM RELATED TO OTHER UNSOLVED HOMICIDE CASES IN JACKSONVILLE.
9:11:35AM THIS EVIDENCE HAS PROVIDED FRESH NEW LEADS AND HAS ADVANCED
9:11:39AM THOSE INVESTIGATIONS TOO.
9:11:41AM DETECTIVE RAMOS' COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE AND EXCEPTIONAL
9:11:46AM INVESTIGATIVE SKILLS ARE EXEMPLARY.
9:11:48AM HIS DEDICATION AND PERSEVERANCE HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT
9:11:51AM CONTRIBUTION TO THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR
9:11:55AM COMMUNITY, BEYOND MAKING TAMPA SAFER, HIS EFFECTIVE
9:11:58AM PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OTHER AGENCIES HAS ALSO HELPED ANOTHER
9:12:02AM COMMUNITY SOLVE AND BRING JUSTICE TO OTHER VICTIMS.
9:12:06AM IT IS FOR THESE REASONS HE IS OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:12:10AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:12:10AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:12:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: DETECTIVE, BEFORE WE HEAR FROM YOU AND BEFORE
9:12:20AM WE HEAR FROM CITY COUNCIL, THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE
9:12:22AM COMMUNITY HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS THEIR SINCERE
9:12:25AM APPRECIATION FOR YOUR WORK, SIR.
9:12:30AM >> CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF TAMPA PBA, PRESENT THIS TO
9:12:33AM YOU.
9:12:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
9:12:35AM >> JOHN MILLER, TAMPA PBA ON BEHALF OF MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA
9:12:40AM POLICE DEPARTMENT, CONGRATULATE YOU AND PRESENT THIS AS A
9:12:42AM TOKEN OF ALL OF OUR APPRECIATION.
9:12:46AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:12:50AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
9:12:52AM ON BEHALF OF CASPERS COMPANY, CASPERS FAMILY, OXFORD
9:12:56AM EXCHANGE, LIKE FOR YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES ENJOY BRUNCH,
9:13:02AM LUNCH, BOOKSTORE.
9:13:03AM THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
9:13:05AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:13:08AM >> STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
9:13:11AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING OUR STREETS SAFE AND THAT
9:13:15AM DETERMINATION IS REALLY VERY IMPRESSIVE.
9:13:19AM THESE ARE TWO TICKETS TO COME AND ENJOY A NIGHT AT THE STRAZ
9:13:22AM CENTER.
9:13:23AM THANK YOU.
9:13:23AM >> I APPRECIATE IT.
9:13:24AM THANK YOU.
9:13:24AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:13:26AM >> MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
9:13:30AM CONGRATULATIONS ON JOB WELL DONE.
9:13:32AM LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH A GIFT CARD FOR A NIGHT OUT, DINNER
9:13:37AM ON US.
9:13:37AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:13:38AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
9:13:40AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:13:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:13:43AM MARY LOU BAILEY.
9:13:44AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
9:13:46AM I SERVE ON THE BOARD THERE.
9:13:48AM WE'RE PRESENTING WITH YOU A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP FOR THE YEAR
9:13:50AM FOR THE ZOO.
9:13:51AM WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THE MANATEE SPECIAL ANIMAL.
9:13:56AM CRITICAL CARE FACILITY FOR THE MANATEES WHO GET HURT AND
9:13:59AM SICK IN THE WILD.
9:14:00AM LIKE YOU TAKE CARE OF US, WE TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THE
9:14:03AM ANIMALS.
9:14:03AM I REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR STORY.
9:14:05AM I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE TWO QUALITIES YOU APPARENTLY HAVE
9:14:08AM IN ABUNDANCE OF TENACITY AND COLLABORATION.
9:14:11AM THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER WILL TAKE YOU FAR, MY MAN.
9:14:13AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:14:15AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO SERVES.
9:14:16AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:14:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:14:21AM BRIAN FORD WITH THE BUCCANEERS.
9:14:23AM DETECTIVE, STORY IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT YOU -- YOUR EXTENDED
9:14:29AM EFFORTS FOR THE JONES' FAMILY.
9:14:31AM REMARKABLE.
9:14:32AM WE HAVE A TRADITION AT ONE BUC.
9:14:33AM ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
9:14:36AM ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
9:14:39AM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU AND SAY THANK YOU AND
9:14:41AM YOUR FAMILY FOR YOUR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE.
9:14:44AM >> THANK YOU.
9:14:45AM APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH.
9:14:45AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:14:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:14:52AM JILL WITECKI FROM TAMPA THEATRE.
9:14:54AM WHEN THEY MAKE THE MOVIE OF YOUR STORY, I HOPE WE GET TO
9:14:57AM SHOW IT.
9:14:58AM IN THE MEANTIME, ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
9:15:00AM TO COME SEE US OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
9:15:03AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:15:03AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:08AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:15:11AM I'M GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
9:15:14AM 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
9:15:17AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND BEING COMMITTED TO OUR CITY AND
9:15:20AM COMMUNITY.
9:15:20AM THANK YOU FOR BEING COMMITTED TO JUSTICE.
9:15:22AM ENJOY A NIGHT OUT AT THE COLUMBIA, GOODY GOODY, ULELE, ENJOY
9:15:28AM SANGRIA, HAVE A NIGHT OUT AND RELAX.
9:15:32AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:36AM >> NEED A BIG TOTE BAG.
9:15:39AM MAYBE A ROLLING SUITCASE.
9:15:41AM STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
9:15:44AM FOLKS.
9:15:44AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE A NEW COMPANY THAT'S JOINING IN
9:15:48AM THIS PRESENTATION.
9:15:50AM GREEK RESTAURANT IS PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE
9:15:52AM FOR $50.
9:15:54AM ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH.
9:15:56AM JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
9:16:01AM CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP.
9:16:06AM THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS AROUND TOWN.
9:16:08AM BREAKFAST, LUNCH, OR DINNER.
9:16:11AM BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO AND WE SAY THE CHIEF
9:16:15AM LIKES TO GRAB THAT ONE FROM YOU.
9:16:18AM MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK.
9:16:20AM PROVIDING YOU A HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT CERTIFICATE.
9:16:23AM TAKE THESE LETTERS WITH YOU AS WELL AS THE GIFT
9:16:25AM CERTIFICATES, PLEASE.
9:16:26AM BELLABRAVA IN THE MIDTOWN SECTION.
9:16:30AM GO ENJOY YOURSELF AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:16:32AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:16:34AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:16:36AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:16:37AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: DETECTIVE, ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL CITY
9:16:45AM OF TAMPA AND TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, IT IS OUR GREAT PLEASURE
9:16:49AM AND HONOR TO GIVE YOU THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:16:59AM >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE.
9:17:02AM THANK YOU, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, FOR YOUR TIME AND HAVING ME
9:17:05AM HERE.
9:17:06AM THIS CASE WAS ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE AND THERE WAS A LOT OF
9:17:09AM MOVING PARTS.
9:17:10AM I KNOW I'M BEING RECOGNIZED BECAUSE I WAS THE LEAD DETECTIVE
9:17:13AM IN IT BUT I COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF
9:17:16AM THE TEAM BEHIND ME.
9:17:17AM THANK FIRST MY WIFE.
9:17:18AM SHE HELD DOWN THE HOUSE AND SUPPORTED ME DURING THE VERY
9:17:22AM LONG HOURS I WAS GONE ON THIS INVESTIGATION.
9:17:24AM I'D LIKE TO THANK MY SQUAD MATES, HOMICIDE SQUAD,
9:17:28AM SPECIFICALLY THOSE WHO HELPED ME DIRECTLY ON THE CASE AND MY
9:17:33AM SUPERVISOR AND SERGEANT KELLY AND OBVIOUSLY THE COMMAND
9:17:36AM STAFF.
9:17:36AM WE ALL CAME TOGETHER AND WORKED WITH THE JACKSONVILLE
9:17:39AM SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO DELIVER JUSTICE ON THIS CASE.
9:17:41AM I COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT THEM.
9:17:43AM OF COURSE, THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SUSIE LOPEZ AND THE
9:17:49AM PROSECUTING TEAM.
9:17:50AM DEFINITELY A TEAM EFFORT.
9:17:52AM THANK ALL OF THEM FOR THE MOMENT THAT GOT ME HERE.
9:17:55AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:17:55AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
9:17:56AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:18:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DETECTIVE, I COULD TELL YOU THE SMARTEST
9:18:06AM DETECTIVE I EVER MET.
9:18:08AM YOU KNOW WHY?
9:18:09AM YOU SAY THANK YOU FIRST.
9:18:13AM >> OF COURSE, YES.
9:18:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOUR WIFE.
9:18:15AM ABOVE ALL, YOU HAVE MORE BRAINS THAN I DO.
9:18:17AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:18:18AM BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALMNESS AND YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE
9:18:23AM THAT YOU RECOGNIZE EVERYONE THAT HAD A HAND IN THIS THING.
9:18:27AM YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING BY YOURSELF.
9:18:28AM YOU KNOW THAT.
9:18:29AM THE WORLD KNOWS THAT.
9:18:30AM BUT YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT FEW OF US HAVE.
9:18:32AM THAT IS THE TENACITY TO NEVER GIVE UP AND SMELL WHERE YOU'RE
9:18:36AM GOING NEXT.
9:18:37AM GOD-GIVEN THING THAT WHEN YOU ARE IN THE POLICE FORCE, NO
9:18:40AM MATTER WHERE YOU ARE AT, YOU HAVE TO THINK LIKE THEY DO IN
9:18:43AM ORDER TO CATCH THEM.
9:18:45AM YOU HAVE THE NATURAL ABILITY.
9:18:46AM GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
9:18:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:18:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, TENACITY,
9:18:52AM SMARTS.
9:18:52AM THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM, YOUR WIFE, AS YOU SAID, AND YOUR
9:18:56AM FAMILY, BUT SEEING WHAT YOU'VE DONE FROM THE START ON THIS
9:19:01AM CASE, HOPEFULLY WON'T HAVE MORE MURDERS.
9:19:04AM IF WE DO, I HOPE YOU'RE THERE HELPING TO PROTECT THE
9:19:07AM COMMUNITY.
9:19:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
9:19:09AM VERY WELL DESERVED.
9:19:10AM I KNOW THIS WAS A VERY HIGH-PROFILE CASE ALL OVER THE MEDIA.
9:19:14AM ALREADY SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY FOR
9:19:17AM YOUR SACRIFICE BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY.
9:19:19AM YOU'RE WORKING ENDLESS LONG HOURS, OVERTIME, ABOVE AND
9:19:22AM BEYOND YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
9:19:24AM WHAT YOU DO, PEOPLE DON'T SEE, BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS OUT THERE
9:19:27AM AND ALWAYS WORKING.
9:19:28AM THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK AND THANK YOU FOR THAT SACRIFICE
9:19:30AM THAT YOU MAKE EVERY DAY, SIR.
9:19:33AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:19:35AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:35AM TAKE A MOMENT BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.
9:19:48AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WE'LL RECOGNIZE PEPIN ACADEMIES IN
9:20:24AM HONOR OF THEIR 25th ANNIVERSARY.
9:20:26AM I SEE SCOTT HERE, A FRIEND OF MINE FOR A LONG TIME.
9:20:50AM GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.
9:20:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
9:20:58AM IT'S A REAL GREAT PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
9:21:01AM WE ARE HERE TO HONOR OUR FRIENDS AT PEPIN ACADEMIES FOR 25
9:21:04AM YEARS OF SERVICE.
9:21:05AM WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE HERE WITH US.
9:21:07AM MR. TOM PEPIN, WHO IS THE FOUNDER OF THE PEPIN FAMILY
9:21:11AM FOUNDATION.
9:21:11AM WE HAVE TINA PEPIN, WHO IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PEPIN
9:21:15AM FAMILY FOUNDATION.
9:21:17AM WE HAVE CRISHA SCOLARO, THE FOUNDER OF PEPIN ACADEMIES.
9:21:22AM WE HAVE MR. SCOTT STREPINA, THE BOARD CHAIR OF PEPIN
9:21:28AM ACADEMIES HILLSBOROUGH.
9:21:29AM JEFF SKOWRONEK, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PEPIN ACADEMIES.
9:21:33AM MONICA PEREZ, COO OF PEPIN ACADEMIES.
9:21:37AM JENNIFER, THE PRINCIPAL AT PEPIN ACADEMIES.
9:21:41AM CHRISTINA DIAZ, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT OF PEPIN ACADEMIES, AND
9:21:45AM WE HAVE PHYLLIS GUTHMAN, OUR GOOD FRIEND FROM McDONALD
9:21:53AM TRAINING CENTER, ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT DOES SO MUCH FOR
9:21:55AM PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
9:21:57AM WE'RE HERE TODAY TO HONOR PEPIN ACADEMIES.
9:22:00AM FOR ME, AS YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER JUAN, YESTERDAY, JUAN WAS AT
9:22:06AM THE HOSPITAL WITH MINOR SURGERY.
9:22:08AM GOD BLESS HIM.
9:22:08AM MY OLDEST BROTHER JUAN IS INTELLECTUALLY DISABLED.
9:22:12AM I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH MY MOM AND DAD HOW
9:22:16AM IMPORTANT INSTITUTIONS LIKE PEPIN ARE TO FAMILIES, RAISING
9:22:20AM CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
9:22:22AM WHEN YOU GOT A KID WHO HAS AN INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY,
9:22:25AM WHETHER AUTISM, DOWN SYNDROME, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, ALL YOU
9:22:29AM WANT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT KID HAS A PILLOW, SO TO SPEAK, TO
9:22:34AM PUT HIS OR HER HEAD DOWN AT NIGHT, SO TO SPEAK.
9:22:37AM THAT INCLUDES GOOD EDUCATION, HOUSING, A CULTURE WHO ACCEPTS
9:22:41AM THEM FOR WHO THEY ARE, ET CETERA.
9:22:43AM FILLING IN THAT GAP FOR SO MANY FAMILIES FOR A QUARTER
9:22:46AM CENTURY HAS BEEN PEPIN ACADEMIES.
9:22:48AM WHENEVER I THINK OF PEPIN ACADEMIES, I THINK OF THE STORIES
9:22:51AM OF HOPE THEY HAVE GIVEN TO SO MANY FAMILIES WITH KIDS OF
9:22:56AM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
9:22:57AM MY FORMER STAFFER, CONNER DARK, WHO NOW WORKS WITH THE CLERK
9:23:01AM OF COURT, I THINK OF THE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS THEY ARE DOING
9:23:04AM THIS YEAR, CITY OF TAMPA IS FUNDING A WELDING PROGRAM THAT
9:23:07AM PEPIN ACADEMIES IS DOING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
9:23:10AM PEPIN ACADEMIES MAKES DREAMS HAPPEN FOR PEOPLE WHOSE ONLY
9:23:14AM DREAM IS TO MAKE SURE THEIR KIDS GET ACCEPTANCE, LOVE AND
9:23:17AM RESPECT.
9:23:18AM SOMETHING THAT EVERY PERSON SHOULD HAVE.
9:23:20AM IT IS OUR GREAT PLEASURE ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY OF
9:23:24AM TAMPA TO HONOR THE LEGACY OF PEPIN ACADEMIES, THE VISION OF
9:23:28AM THE PEPIN FAMILY, THE PEPIN NAME MEANS SO MUCH TO PEOPLE IN
9:23:34AM THE TAMPA AREA WHO HAVE LOVED ONES WITH INTELLECTUAL
9:23:40AM DISABILITIES.
9:23:40AM LIKE McDONALD TRAINING CENTER, BEST BUDDIES, SPECIAL
9:23:45AM OLYMPICS, IT IS PART OF THE FAMILY THAT IS THERE FOR PEOPLE.
9:23:49AM ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL COMMUNITY, OUR PLEASURE AND HONOR TO
9:23:52AM GIVE PEPIN ACADEMIES THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION
9:23:55AM FOR 25 YEARS OF SERVICE.
9:23:57AM I WILL ASK MR. TOM PEPIN TO COME FORWARD.
9:24:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:24:05AM GO AHEAD.
9:24:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:12AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THOSE KIND WORDS.
9:24:14AM THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT I CAN SAY AFTER THAT.
9:24:17AM GOOD MORNING.
9:24:18AM MY NAME IS TINA PEPIN.
9:24:19AM I AM THE PROUD DIRECTOR OF THE PEPIN FAMILY FOUNDATION.
9:24:23AM TODAY WE CELEBRATE 25 YEARS, AND 25 YEARS AGO OUR FAMILY
9:24:28AM INVESTED IN STUDENTS IN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM WHO HAD UNIQUE
9:24:33AM ABILITIES AND JUST NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE HELP.
9:24:35AM THAT IDEA WAS BROUGHT TO US BY THIS COURAGEOUS WOMAN BEHIND
9:24:39AM ME, CRISHA AND A GROUP OF FAMILIES THAT RECOGNIZED THE NEED
9:24:44AM FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION, FOR STUDENTS IN THE GENERAL EDUCATION
9:24:47AM ENVIRONMENT THAT JUST WEREN'T SUCCEEDING AS MUCH AS THEY
9:24:50AM COULD BE.
9:24:50AM THAT'S WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT, TODAY IS THE RECOGNITION OF
9:24:53AM THAT HARD WORK, THE CHOICE THAT YOU ALL RECOGNIZE THAT IS
9:24:57AM NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:24:59AM WE KNOW JUST LIKE THE DETECTIVE SAID THIS MORNING, IT'S A
9:25:03AM TEAM EFFORT.
9:25:04AM IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY,
9:25:08AM IN THE SYSTEM IS A TEAM EFFORT.
9:25:10AM WE THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE DIFFERENCE THAT IS NEEDED
9:25:12AM IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:25:13AM THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR TODAY.
9:25:15AM THANK YOU.
9:25:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:25:22AM >> CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU, MR. VIERA AND ALL OF YOU FOR
9:25:27AM THIS RECOGNITION.
9:25:28AM 25 YEARS IS EXCITING FOR ME TO CELEBRATE, NOT BECAUSE OF
9:25:31AM PEPIN ACADEMIES, WHAT IT DOES FOR STUDENTS WITH LEARNING
9:25:35AM DISABILITIES BUT WHAT IT MEANS TO GET HERE FOR 25 YEARS AND
9:25:38AM LOOKING BACK AT ALL THE PEOPLE PART OF THE SUCCESS.
9:25:43AM SHE KNOWS THAT SHE LOOKS TODAY AND SAYS, WOW, 25 YEARS AGO I
9:25:46AM HAD 17 STUDENTS IN A BOX AND TODAY WE SERVE ALMOST 1200
9:25:51AM STUDENTS ACROSS THREE CAMPUSES.
9:25:52AM A BOX HAS TURNED INTO THREE 55,000 SQUARE FEET PLUS
9:25:57AM FACILITIES THAT SERVES STUDENTS AND GIVING THEM THE CHANCE
9:26:00AM TO BE SUCCESSFUL, TO BE HEARD, TO BE BELIEVED IN, AS YOU'VE
9:26:03AM MENTIONED.
9:26:03AM YOU HAVE TAKEN YOUR LOVE FOR YOUR BROTHER AND EXPANDED IT
9:26:06AM THROUGH THE CITY AND EMBRACED US.
9:26:08AM THE CITY HAS EMBRACED US.
9:26:11AM TRANSITION WORK AND INTERNS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:26:13AM BEEN AT THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE DOING WORKFORCE
9:26:16AM EXPERIENCE FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS OF THESE 25.
9:26:19AM YOU HAVE EMBRACED US AND WE HAVE EMBRACED YOU.
9:26:22AM WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
9:26:23AM I THANK EVERYONE BEHIND THAT YOU WERE GENEROUS TO MENTION.
9:26:29AM OUR BOARD CHAIR, COO, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, THESE TWO MAKE
9:26:35AM ALL THE DECISIONS YOU SEE HAPPEN EVERY DAY.
9:26:38AM OF COURSE, THE PEPIN FAMILY.
9:26:42AM PHYLLIS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, ALLOWING ME TO BE HONORED
9:26:47AM TO DO THAT.
9:26:49AM ME AND YOU SHARE A LOVE FOR SOMETHING, TOLD US TIME IS
9:26:53AM UNDEFEATED.
9:26:54AM BUT I DIDN'T HEAR NO BELL.
9:26:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD?
9:27:03AM >> CRISHA SCOLARO WILLIAMS.
9:27:09AM THANK YOU TO PHYLLIS GUTHMAN BECAUSE MANY DON'T REALIZE SHE
9:27:13AM WAS COACHING ME YEARS BEFORE PEPIN OPENED, ENCOURAGING A
9:27:18AM MOTHER WHO SAW A GREAT NEED THAT WAS NEEDED AND HELP MAKE IT
9:27:22AM HAPPEN.
9:27:23AM BUT IT ALL GOES TO TOM AND ART PEPIN WHO WE USED TO HAVE
9:27:30AM LITTLE MEETINGS WHERE PARENTS WOULD ASK WHAT WE WERE DOING
9:27:33AM AND BOTH SAID, I KIND OF THINK THIS MIGHT BE GOOD FOR OUR
9:27:36AM CITY.
9:27:37AM AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
9:27:38AM THANK YOU.
9:27:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:27:43AM ANYBODY ELSE AT ALL?
9:27:43AM TOM, PHYLLIS, ANYBODY?
9:27:45AM OKAY.
9:27:46AM JUST MAKING SURE.
9:27:47AM BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCIL, AGAIN, PEPIN, THEY DO AMAZING WORK.
9:27:54AM JEFF, IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW HARD YOU HIT BUT HOW HARD YOU CAN
9:28:00AM GET HIT.
9:28:01AM QUOTE ROCKY 6, THAT'S --
9:28:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:28:07AM AGAIN, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU.
9:28:09AM BEEN SAID BEFORE, BUT THE PEPIN FAMILY HAS DONE NOT ONLY
9:28:13AM HERE BUT IN THIS CASE IN YOUR ACADEMY, BUT ALSO MEDICINE IN
9:28:17AM THE PAST AND YOUR FATHER AND SO FORTH AND WHAT YOU CONTINUE
9:28:20AM TO DO IS AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:28:29AM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
9:28:32AM THANK YOU, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU.
9:28:52AM GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
9:28:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:28:56AM CONGRATULATIONS ON REACHING THIS WONDERFUL MILESTONE.
9:28:59AM I LOVE PEPIN.
9:29:01AM ONE OF MY FAVORITE STUDENTS, ADRIAN VILA IS NOW WORKING AT
9:29:06AM OUR MASTERS IN TEXAS.
9:29:07AM ONE OF MY FAVORITE STUDENTS, BUT ALONG WITH HER BROTHER AND
9:29:11AM SISTER WHO ALSO ATTENDED, YOUR GRADUATION CEREMONIES ARE
9:29:14AM JUST A DELIGHT.
9:29:15AM I WISH YOU MORE SUCCESS AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR THREE
9:29:19AM CAMPUSES AS WELL.
9:29:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'RE SMILING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO
9:29:26AM GIVE COMMENTS NOW, BUT SINCE EVERYBODY IS, WE WILL BECAUSE
9:29:29AM IT'S SO COMPELLING TO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING POSITIVE.
9:29:32AM IF THEY DON'T SAY ANYTHING, IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT
9:29:34AM TO.
9:29:35AM THANK YOU ALL FOR THE 25 YEARS AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE
9:29:38AM ANOTHER 25.
9:29:39AM I WANT TO IN PARTICULAR THANK THE PEPIN FAMILY.
9:29:42AM MY FIRST JOB WAS IN SPORTS PROMOTION.
9:29:45AM I WORKED WITH YOUR FAMILY.
9:29:47AM I DON'T REMEMBER IF I MET YOU, BUT I WORKED WITH YOUR FAMILY
9:29:50AM BACK IN THE '80s.
9:29:51AM YOU ALL HAVE DONE SO MUCH IN SO MANY WAYS.
9:29:55AM ONE OF THE MOST PHILANTHROPIC FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:29:58AM SO MANY BUSINESSES DO A FRACTION OF WHAT YOU ALL DO.
9:30:01AM THIS IS ONE OF THE MANY, MANY AREAS OF IMPACT THAT YOU ALL
9:30:04AM HAVE HAD.
9:30:05AM SO THANK YOU.
9:30:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:30:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:30:07AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:30:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE LAST THING, IF I MAY.
9:30:11AM WE TALKED ABOUT GRADUATES, I WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T
9:30:14AM MENTION A GRADUATE FROM PEPIN WHO WAS TAKEN FROM US ALMOST A
9:30:17AM YEAR AGO IN OCTOBER.
9:30:19AM HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL.
9:30:20AM ONE OF MANY.
9:30:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:30:24AM NEXT WE HAVE THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA TO DO A FIVE-MINUTE
9:30:46AM PRESENTATION TO REPORT ON THE SERVICES IT PROVIDES TO CITY
9:30:48AM RESIDENTS.
9:30:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:30:50AM THIS IS IGNACIO BARRON VIELA, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF FLORIDA
9:30:50AM ORCHESTRA.
9:30:54AM IT IS A PLEASURE BEING HERE TODAY.
9:30:56AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME OF
9:30:58AM THIS ON THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
9:31:00AM I HAVE A FEW SLIDES TO DISPLAY HERE.
9:31:02AM GIVE AN UPDATE ON LAST SEASON AND AS WE PREPARE FOR THE
9:31:18AM UPCOMING SEASON.
9:31:20AM FIRST TIME HERE.
9:31:21AM GOOD TO SEE YOU AND MEET YOU.
9:31:25AM START WITH WHY WE EXIST.
9:31:27AM THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA IS HERE TO TRANSFORM LIVES.
9:31:30AM THROUGH THE POWER OF MUSIC, WE REALLY HAVE A LOT OF
9:31:34AM EXPERIENCES AND STORIES FROM FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN TOUCHED
9:31:38AM AND MOVED BY WHAT WE DO.
9:31:40AM WE BUILD COMMUNITY THROUGH THE POWER OF MUSIC.
9:31:42AM WE INSPIRE, EDUCATE AND UNITE THROUGH WHAT WE DO.
9:31:45AM WE HAVE MORE THAN 56 YEARS OF HISTORY.
9:31:51AM AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE LARGEST PROFESSIONAL ORCHESTRA IN
9:31:54AM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
9:31:55AM OUR MUSIC DIRECTOR IS INTERNATIONALLY ACCLAIMED ARTIST
9:31:59AM MICHAEL FRANCIS.
9:32:00AM WE ARE CELEBRATING HIS 10th ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR.
9:32:03AM THE ORCHESTRA HAS BEEN TRANSFORMED SINCE HE ARRIVED.
9:32:10AM CHELSEA GALLO, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN HER IN TAMPA, ALONG WITH
9:32:17AM 70 FULL-TIME MUSICIANS.
9:32:19AM MANY HAVE 20, 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
9:32:21AM NOT ONLY COMING FROM THE UNITED STATES BUT WORLDWIDE.
9:32:24AM THESE MUSICIANS MOVE TO TAMPA AND START HERE WITH THEIR
9:32:28AM FAMILY.
9:32:29AM WE ALSO HAVE A TEAM OF 30 STAFF MEMBERS.
9:32:32AM ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET IS ABOUT 14 MILLION.
9:32:36AM WANTED TO MENTION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WE PERFORM A NUMBER
9:32:38AM OF VENUES.
9:32:42AM WE ALSO HAVE CONCERTS AT THE TAMPA THEATRE, JULIAN B. LANE
9:32:48AM AND -- WE ARE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE A NEW LOCATION THIS
9:32:50AM UPCOMING SEASON AT YBOR CITY.
9:32:53AM WE SERVE AROUND 150,000 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR IN THE CONCERT
9:33:02AM HALL, CLASSROOM, AND COMMUNITY.
9:33:03AM PROUD TO PRESENT WORLD-CLASS ARTISTS.
9:33:08AM WE ARE KNOWN TO PROVIDE MUSIC FOR EVERYBODY FROM CLASSICS,
9:33:15AM POP, ROCK, COUNTRY.
9:33:17AM WANTED TO MENTION LAST YEAR, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE
9:33:22AM CONCERT AT THE MORSANI HALL WHICH WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
9:33:26AM I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AND HIGHLIGHT HOW STRONG OF PARTNERS WE
9:33:34AM HAVE WITH THE STRAZ CENTER, INCLUDING OPERA TAMPA.
9:33:37AM STARTED A RELATIONSHIP WITH OPERA TAMPA THREE YEARS AGO AND
9:33:40AM LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE MUSIC PERFORMANCES
9:33:42AM WITH OPERA TAMPA IN THE FUTURE.
9:33:44AM LAST YEAR, WE PERFORMED ABOUT 24 CONCERTS IN TAMPA.
9:33:48AM 18 OF THEM WERE AT THE STRAZ.
9:33:50AM TWO WERE AT THE PARKS.
9:33:51AM AND FOUR IN OTHER TAMPA INDOOR VENUES.
9:33:54AM THAT'S AROUND 30,000 PATRONS ATTENDING OUR CONCERTS IN
9:33:59AM TAMPA.
9:33:59AM THIS UPCOMING SEASON WE ARE PLANNING TO PRESENT 25 CONCERTS
9:34:02AM IN TAMPA, 20 CONCERTS AT THE STRAZ -- AND THREE IN OTHER
9:34:08AM VENUES.
9:34:09AM OPENING CONCERT IN TAMPA WILL BE OCTOBER 12.
9:34:11AM IT IS OUR POPS CONCERT SERIES.
9:34:13AM MAYOR CASTOR HAS ACCEPTED TO ATTEND THE PERFORMANCE.
9:34:22AM WE'RE ALWAYS VERY GRATEFUL TO REPRESENT AND SHARE THE POWER
9:34:26AM OF THE ORCHESTRA IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:34:29AM ON A YEARLY BASIS WE SERVE AROUND 60,000 PEOPLE THROUGH OUR
9:34:36AM COMMUNITY PROGRAMS.
9:34:36AM I WANT TO MENTION THIS SEASON WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO
9:34:46AM PRESENT A COMBINED PERFORMANCE FROM BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL AND
9:34:49AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA MUSICIANS.
9:34:51AM SPECIAL SERVICE WE PROVIDE IS THROUGH OUR STRINGS PROGRAM
9:34:56AM FOR YOUTH.
9:34:57AM IN PARTICULAR, IN TAMPA, 14 GIRLS AND 14 BOYS.
9:35:06AM IT IS A NEW PARTNERSHIP THAT WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE
9:35:12AM WHAT WE DO WITH MUSIC.
9:35:13AM OTHER EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE DO.
9:35:18AM SIDE BY SIDE CONCERTS WITH THE TAMPA YOUTH ORCHESTRA,
9:35:23AM WELL-KNOWN PERFORMANCES WHERE WE HAVE HIGH SCHOOLS FROM ALL
9:35:25AM OVER, INCLUDING BLAKE AND BLOOMINGDALE HIGH SCHOOLS, TAMPA
9:35:29AM METROPOLITAN YOUTH ORCHESTRA AND SO ON.
9:35:32AM THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO PARTNER WITH THE GASPARILLA MUSIC
9:35:35AM FESTIVAL FOR THE FIRST TIME.
9:35:37AM THAT IS ANOTHER EXCITING PARTNERSHIP COMING UP.
9:35:40AM WANTED TO SHARE THAT WE'RE KNOWN TO BE AN ARTS AND CULTURE
9:35:51AM DESTINATION AND KNOWN FOR THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IN THE
9:35:54AM COMMUNITY AND THE DOLLARS WE CAN GENERATE THROUGH OUR
9:35:57AM CONCERTS.
9:35:58AM I KNOW TIME IS UP.
9:35:59AM I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AGAIN REMIND YOU IN THE
9:36:02AM TEN YEARS OF MICHAEL FRANCIS, ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA
9:36:05AM ORCHESTRA, THANK THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THEIR CONTINUED
9:36:08AM SUPPORT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
9:36:12AM WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:36:14AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
9:36:16AM ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
9:36:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:36:19AM WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THAT THE ORCHESTRA
9:36:22AM DOES.
9:36:23AM IT'S A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY ASSET.
9:36:24AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:36:30AM WE'LL KICK IT OFF WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:36:32AM ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER, MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:36:34AM START WITH HIM AND THEN FIVE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.
9:36:37AM GOOD MORNING, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:36:41AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:36:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:36:42AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:36:44AM I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT ZION CEMETERY.
9:36:51AM DECEMBER 10, 2019, A PRESENTATION WAS MADE BEFORE THE CITY
9:36:55AM COUNCIL CONCERNING THE CEMETERY.
9:36:57AM ON MARCH THE 5th, 2020, ANOTHER PRESENTATION WAS MADE.
9:37:05AM GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY.
9:37:06AM THE CEMETERY WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1901.
9:37:11AM FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:37:17AM HOWEVER, BY THE MID '20s, IT HAD BEEN BUILT OVER AND
9:37:23AM ESSENTIALLY ERASED FROM THE MAP.
9:37:25AM WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS IS IT WAS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN
9:37:28AM RICHARD DOLBY, WHO ACTUALLY PURCHASED THE LAND.
9:37:32AM THE PROPERTY THAT ONCE WAS COMPOSED OF THE REMAINS OF THE
9:37:36AM CEMETERY IS OWNED BY THREE BUSINESSES -- TAMPA HOUSING
9:37:38AM AUTHORITY, SUN STATE RECORDS SERVICES AND -- COLUMBIA
9:37:44AM RESTAURANT.
9:37:46AM ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS A FAMILY MEMBER.
9:37:53AM WILLIAMS.
9:37:54AM SHE IS A FAMILY MEMBER ON THE CEMETERY.
9:37:59AM WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS DEAL IT IS A PUBLIC/PRIVATE
9:38:03AM RELATIONSHIP, ONE OF THE FIRST KIND IN THE NATION.
9:38:06AM THE PROGRAM THAT'S COMING UP IS CALLED MEMORIAL CEMETERY AND
9:38:16AM -- CENTER.
9:38:17AM RESOURCES INCLUDING GOVERNMENT FOUNDATIONS AND CORPORATION.
9:38:23AM GIVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE SOURCES.
9:38:26AM $7.9 MILLION.
9:38:31AM MEMORIAL DESIGN 230,000.
9:38:33AM STATE RESTORED MARKER IS GOING TO BE 7500.
9:38:38AM AND STATE LOCAL MARKER GOING TO BE 5,000.
9:38:44AM FENCING AND SECURITY 30,000.
9:38:46AM DEMOLITION IS GOING TO BE 500,000.
9:38:51AM THE PARK DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE 5 MILLION.
9:38:53AM AND THE CENTER IS GOING TO BE 1.9 MILLION.
9:38:58AM WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS, THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO BRING
9:39:01AM IN FUNDING IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN THE FINANCES RELATED TO THIS
9:39:07AM PARTICULAR PROJECT.
9:39:08AM UNFORTUNATELY, AT THIS POINT, THE TWO BUSINESS OWNERS ARE
9:39:12AM NOT AT THE TABLE, AND WE RISK LOSING ALL OF THE MONEY
9:39:17AM RELATED TO THE $7.9 MILLION THAT WE HAVE LINED UP.
9:39:23AM ON THE 20th OF THIS MONTH, BE GIVING THE ONLINE MEETING OF
9:39:29AM THE FORGOTTEN 400, A NATIONAL CRISIS AT 7 P.M.
9:39:34AM THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION RELATED TO BLACK
9:39:40AM CEMETERIES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
9:39:42AM WE THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE TAMPA PROJECT IS
9:39:45AM GOING TO BE ONE OF A KIND IN THE NATION.
9:39:47AM THANK YOU.
9:39:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:39:48AM THAT CONCLUDES THE ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:39:51AM I HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENT CARDS.
9:39:54AM WE'LL GO TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:39:56AM FIRST UP IS MS. STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:39:59AM FOLLOWED BY MS. CONNIE BURTON.
9:40:05AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
9:40:12AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:40:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:40:13AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:40:14AM I HATE GOING FIRST BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE OTHER
9:40:20AM CITIZENS HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE SOMETIMES I LIKE TO PILE ON.
9:40:24AM I'D LOVE TO SEE THE MAYOR COME OVER HERE AND SUPPORT ITEM 79
9:40:29AM TODAY.
9:40:31AM ITEM 79 IS SUPPORTING THIS COUNCIL GETTING A COST-OF-LIVING
9:40:36AM ADJUSTMENT WHICH THEY HAVE NEEDED FOR YEARS.
9:40:39AM I WANT TO SEE OUR CITY COUNCIL LOOK LIKE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
9:40:44AM SHOW UP IN THIS ROOM.
9:40:45AM I WANT IT TO BE REPRESENTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
9:40:49AM I WANT SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENT.
9:40:53AM WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF MONEY HERE.
9:40:55AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENOUGH TO GET YOU ABOVE THE POVERTY LINE
9:40:58AM IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANOTHER JOB.
9:41:00AM I WANT TO SEE EVERYBODY SUPPORT THIS.
9:41:06AM IT IS JUST IDENTIFY.
9:41:08AM AND THE FUNNY PART ABOUT IT IS, THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR IN A
9:41:12AM ROW THAT I HAVE COME UP HERE ABOUT THIS.
9:41:14AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:41:14AM WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING, THE RAISE -- CALLING IT A
9:41:21AM RAISE -- THE ADJUSTMENT IS THE SAME ADJUSTMENT THAT I
9:41:25AM BROUGHT BEFORE THE COUNCIL, THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THIS
9:41:28AM COUNCIL THREE YEARS AGO.
9:41:29AM SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING LESS THAN YOU WOULD HAVE HAD YOU
9:41:35AM DONE IT THREE YEARS AGO.
9:41:36AM I THINK IT'S TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS
9:41:41AM COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT,
9:41:44AM IS NOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT SIT IN THE SEATS.
9:41:47AM IT'S ABOUT THE SEATS YOU SIT IN.
9:41:48AM I WANT TO SEE MY NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS BE ABLE TO RUN FOR
9:41:51AM COUNCIL.
9:41:52AM I WANT TO SEE MY NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, WHEN I SEE ELLIE
9:41:57AM BAGGET AND SHE'S LIKE I WOULD RUN FOR COUNCIL BUT I CAN'T
9:42:00AM PAY MY MORTGAGE IF I DO.
9:42:01AM IF I SEE MIMI AND BOBBY AND ALL THOSE FOLKS WHO MIGHT BE
9:42:05AM INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR COUNCIL ONE DAY, LYNN HURTAK WAS
9:42:09AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
9:42:10AM SHE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER.
9:42:12AM AND SHE WANTED TO RUN FOR COUNCIL AND SHE COULDN'T DO IT IF
9:42:16AM SHE DIDN'T HAVE TWO INCOMES IN HER HOUSE.
9:42:19AM I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
9:42:22AM I WANT EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO BE ON THIS COUNCIL.
9:42:26AM NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY OR HAVE A JOB THAT
9:42:29AM THEY CAN FLEX TIME AND THIS IS NOT A PART-TIME JOB.
9:42:33AM I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT ANYBODY SAYS.
9:42:35AM THEY ARE LYING.
9:42:36AM BECAUSE I FOLLOW YOU ALL AROUND AND PICK UP YOUR BREAD
9:42:40AM CRUMBS AND I DO A FULL-TIME JOB OF IT.
9:42:43AM YOU ALL DO WAY MORE THAN I DO.
9:42:45AM I KNOW HOW HARD YOU WORK.
9:42:47AM WE NEED TO DO THIS TODAY.
9:42:48AM WE NEED TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY.
9:42:52AM NOT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I HEARD THAT CRAP BEFORE THE LAST
9:42:57AM ELECTIONS.
9:42:57AM "WE'LL DO IT AFTER THE ELECTIONS."
9:43:00AM NO, TIME TO DO IT.
9:43:02AM SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP.
9:43:05AM MAKE THE DECISION.
9:43:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, CONNIE BURTON FOLLOWED BY ROBIN
9:43:10AM LOCKETT.
9:43:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:43:13AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:43:15AM IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING SAID HERE THAT TRIGGERS ME.
9:43:19AM WHEN I HEAR THE WONDERFUL 25-YEAR CELEBRATION, IT TRIGGER 25
9:43:25AM YEARS OF TRAUMA FOR ME.
9:43:26AM IN 1999, THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH THE HOUSING
9:43:32AM AUTHORITY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SOUGHT A $50,000 GRANT TO
9:43:39AM DO A REVERSE DRUG STING IN ROBLES PARK, COMING IN, SELLING
9:43:45AM DRUGS, PURCHASING DRUGS.
9:43:47AM AS A RESULT OF A LULL IN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, EVERYBODY
9:43:54AM IN THAT PROGRAM WAS ARRESTED SUBSEQUENTLY FOR A SALE OF
9:43:59AM MARIJUANA THAT WAS NO MORE THAN $25.
9:44:04AM IN 1999.
9:44:05AM I WILL NEVER STAND UP HERE AND SAY STUFF THAT I CAN'T PROVE.
9:44:09AM I CAN PROVE IT, DOCUMENT IT.
9:44:10AM IN 1999, THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.
9:44:13AM AND A CONTINUAL PATTERN OF THAT, THAT WE DON'T SEE
9:44:18AM APPRENTICE PROGRAMS IN THE VERY COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE NEED
9:44:22AM IT TO LIVE, WHAT WE SEE IS THE PARADE OF ACCOLADES OF HOW
9:44:27AM WONDERFUL THE LEADERSHIP OVER THERE IS DOING WONDERFUL
9:44:29AM THINGS.
9:44:30AM WONDERFUL LEADERSHIP OVER THERE DESTROY HOPE, DESTROY THE
9:44:36AM ABILITY FOR YOUNG MEN DURING THAT PERIOD THAT ARE OLDER NOW,
9:44:40AM 25 YEARS OLDER NOW, THAT CAN'T EVEN GET A BASIC DAMN JOB.
9:44:46AM YOU KNOW WHY?
9:44:46AM THEY HAVE CRIMINAL HISTORY.
9:44:48AM 25 YEARS OF THAT IN THIS CITY.
9:44:51AM AND WHAT IT HAS RESULTED INTO IS THE INABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO
9:44:56AM HAVE HOPE TO PASS ON TO THE NEXT GENERATION.
9:45:00AM SO WHEN WE SEE NOW ON THE NATIONAL SCALE A YOUNG MAN 14
9:45:06AM YEARS OLD COMMITTED MURDER, THAT AT 13, AUTHORITIES WAS
9:45:12AM AWARE OF HIS ACTIVITY.
9:45:15AM YOU KNOW WHAT SAVED HIM?
9:45:17AM HE WAS WHITE.
9:45:19AM WHAT DON'T SAVE US.
9:45:23AM WE ARE BLACK.
9:45:23AM DON'T SAVE OUR COMMUNITY AS THEY CONTINUE TO BE GENTRIFIED
9:45:27AM AND MOST OF YOU ALL KNOW THAT IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACT, THE
9:45:31AM APPRENTICE PROGRAM, THE SUBCONTRACTS, MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE
9:45:35AM CAN'T TOUCH ANY OF THOSE JOBS.
9:45:37AM I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU GET PAID UP THERE.
9:45:41AM BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHO GOT COURAGE UP THERE TO
9:45:45AM SAY AS YOU BUILD TAMPA THAT EVERYBODY IS ALLOWED TO
9:45:49AM PARTICIPATE.
9:45:49AM RIGHT NOW, WE CANNOT PARTICIPATE.
9:45:53AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 76 WHEN
9:45:57AM ABBYE FEELEY DO HER REPORT, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT ZONE OR
9:46:00AM WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, TELL US HOW IN OUR BLACK COMMUNITY WE
9:46:05AM CAN START CREATING GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
9:46:08AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTAINER HOMES, ADD-ONS, BUT IT'S
9:46:12AM ALWAYS JUST A CONVERSATION.
9:46:13AM HISTORY IS WATCHING ALL OF YOU.
9:46:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:46:17AM NEXT UP, MS. ROBIN LOCKETT FOLLOWED BY MR. RYAN HAZE.
9:46:22AM GOOD MORNING.
9:46:29AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:46:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:46:31AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
9:46:32AM THERE WAS A HOUSING PLAN CREATED.
9:46:40AM I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET.
9:46:42AM TALKING ABOUT THE $12 MILLION OR THEREIN, THE $50 MILLION IN
9:46:47AM THE LAST BUDGET AROUND HOUSING.
9:46:48AM THERE WAS A HOUSING PLAN CREATED AND IT OUTLINED HOW THE
9:46:51AM MONEY WAS GOING TO BE SPENT.
9:46:54AM BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT CHAMPIONED THE PLAN ARE GONE, WE
9:46:57AM NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING
9:47:01AM CONTINUES.
9:47:01AM THIS COUNCIL AND THE CRA COMMITTED HISTORIC AMOUNTS OF MONEY
9:47:06AM TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, REPAIRING PEOPLE'S HOMES AND ADDING
9:47:11AM MORE UNITS.
9:47:13AM THE PLAN ON THE CITY WEBSITE SAYS THERE IS $82 MILLION.
9:47:18AM THE $50 MILLION WAS SUPPOSED TO PRESERVE AND ADD NEW UNITS.
9:47:23AM WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB PROGRAM AND
9:47:29AM THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE A PART OF THE PLAN.
9:47:32AM WE NEED TO ENSURE THIS COUNCIL REMAINS COMMITTED TO
9:47:35AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FOLLOWING THROUGH EVEN THOUGH
9:47:38AM LEADERSHIP HAS CHANGED.
9:47:40AM I KNOW FOR SURE -- MY QUESTION IS, I WANT TO FOLLOW THE
9:47:48AM MONEY.
9:47:49AM I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS.
9:47:54AM IT WAS AN HISTORIC EVENT A YEAR AGO, BUT WHERE THE RFPs,
9:48:00AM WHERE IS THE MONEY.
9:48:01AM I WANT TO FOLLOW THE MONEY.
9:48:02AM I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CURRENT BUDGET CONVERSATIONS
9:48:05AM BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE ELECTED.
9:48:07AM BUT I WANT TO FOLLOW THE MONEY.
9:48:11AM I COULDN'T MAKE IT DOWN HERE LAST WEEK, BY GOD'S GRACE,
9:48:17AM THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD.
9:48:18AM WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF.
9:48:29AM CONNIE COMES UP HERE OFTEN AND TALKS ABOUT THE JOURNEY IN
9:48:35AM THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND WHAT -- NOT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE BUT
9:48:40AM WHAT HASN'T BEEN DONE.
9:48:42AM BUT THAT'S THROUGH HER LENS.
9:48:44AM THAT'S THROUGH THE BLACK COMMUNITY LENS.
9:48:46AM YOU GUYS CAN SIT THERE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A
9:48:50AM STATEMENT MADE LAST WEEK THAT THE REASON WHY PEOPLE DON'T
9:48:53AM VOTE IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THIS IS THE GREATEST CITY.
9:49:01AM THAT'S THROUGH THAT PERSON'S LENS.
9:49:03AM BUT WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT SEAT, YOU HAVE TO WONDER, YOU HAVE
9:49:08AM TO THINK SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
9:49:10AM YOU HAVE TO TRY TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO LOOK THROUGH A CLOUDY
9:49:15AM LENS OTHER THAN YOUR OWN, YOUR CLEAR LENS, BECAUSE PEOPLE
9:49:19AM THAT DON'T THINK THAT WAY OR FEEL THAT WAY, THE BLACK
9:49:24AM COMMUNITY THAT'S FROM HERE THAT LIVES IN EAST TAMPA, THEY
9:49:30AM DON'T FEEL THAT WAY.
9:49:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:49:34AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, DID YOU WANT STAFF HERE FOR THE ITEMS
9:49:36AM THAT YOU PULLED?
9:49:43AM >> I NEED MR. ROGERO.
9:49:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO.
9:49:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND FOR THE FOUR -- THE FIRST FOUR --
9:49:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 28, 33, 34, 55.
9:49:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, AND THEN I NEED WHATEVER STAFF IS
9:49:55AM NECESSARY FOR 40 AND 42.
9:49:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:49:58AM MR. RYAN HAYS IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
9:50:04AM FOLLOWED BY DARYL HYCH.
9:50:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMEN AND COUNCILMEN.
9:50:17AM RYAN HAYES.
9:50:21AM I'M ALSO A CHANGE AGENT.
9:50:23AM I'M IN THE MENTAL HEALTH SECTOR.
9:50:24AM THE REASON WHY I HAVE THIS SIGN, NO COMPANY'S NAME -- SORRY.
9:50:28AM IT'S A HUGE SIGN THAT SAYS BEER 16 OUNCES AS LOW AS 99
9:50:35AM CENTS.
9:50:36AM THEY ARE PLASTERED ALL THROUGHOUT CIRCLE K TO BE SPECIFIC.
9:50:41AM I AM A MENTAL HEALTH THERAPIST COUNSELOR.
9:50:44AM WITH INDIVIDUALS AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND SUBSTANCE RECOVERY
9:50:47AM AND DISORDERS, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY THAT
9:50:50AM I SERVE ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL.
9:50:53AM WITH THEM HAVING TO DRIVE HOME AND EVERYDAY CITIZENS -- AM I
9:50:58AM ABLE TO SHOW THIS SIGN OR NO?
9:51:01AM >> NO.
9:51:01AM >> IT'S EGREGIOUS.
9:51:03AM I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ORDINANCE PUT IN PLACE TO
9:51:06AM WHERE CORPORATIONS CANNOT JUST TRY TO OVERREACH THE
9:51:09AM COMMUNITY WITH ALCOHOL.
9:51:11AM THE NEXT SUBJECT MATTER I WAS HERE ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO IN
9:51:16AM REGARDS TO CAIRO AND FRIENDS.
9:51:17AM WE ARE NOT PANHANDLING AND SOLICITING OUR SERVICES FOR FUNDS
9:51:22AM NOR GRANTS.
9:51:22AM WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO OUTREACH TO OUR
9:51:26AM COMMUNITY.
9:51:27AM WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO CLOSE OUR COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT
9:51:30AM STORE, CALLED CAIRO'S GARAGE, WHERE WE HELP INDIVIDUALS
9:51:35AM ECONOMIZE AND REALLOCATE FUNDS TO SAVINGS.
9:51:40AM JOHN BENNETT HAS BEEN STELLAR COMMUNICATING WITH ME AND
9:51:45AM POINTING ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
9:51:47AM WE'VE BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE 2019.
9:51:49AM MYSELF, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FULLY OPERATE CAIRO'S AND
9:51:55AM FRIENDS BY MYSELF.
9:51:57AM ON A WEEKLY BASIS, WE RECEIVE TWO TO THREE PALLETS FULL OF
9:52:02AM DONATIONS FROM WALMART.
9:52:04AM I'M DOING THIS ALL ON MY OWN.
9:52:07AM I DON'T HAVE A STAFF.
9:52:08AM I DON'T HAVE DELEGATES.
9:52:09AM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
9:52:11AM IT'S JUST ME, MY FIANC E AND THREE PUPS THAT KEEP EVERYTHING
9:52:17AM MOVING.
9:52:17AM THE PLACE THAT WE WERE AT IS CORRODING.
9:52:19AM IT'S DETERIORATING.
9:52:20AM WE HAVE OUTGROWN THE PLACE.
9:52:22AM IT'S 500 SQUARE FEET.
9:52:24AM WE HAVE TWO TRACTOR TRAILERS, 48-FOOT AND 40-FOOT TRACTOR
9:52:28AM TRAILER WHERE WE HAVE OVER 7 FIGURES IN OUR PIPELINE WITH
9:52:33AM BRAND NEW MATERIAL.
9:52:35AM WE CANNOT FACILITATE THAT TYPE OF PRODUCT BEING IN A
9:52:37AM STOREFRONT OF 500 SQUARE FEET AND WITH NO AC.
9:52:41AM WE'VE BEEN THERE OVER A YEAR AND FOUR MONTHS.
9:52:44AM WE HAVE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE GENTLEMAN AND
9:52:47AM NEVER MISSED -- NEVER LATE ON LEASE.
9:52:50AM I'M COMING HERE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY, IF THE
9:52:53AM CITY OF TAMPA, WITH THE OUTREACH AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT
9:52:57AM YOU HAVE, IF YOU ALL CAN PLEASE GO ON OUR WEBSITE, LOOK AT
9:53:01AM OUR GOOGLE PROFILE.
9:53:02AM PRETTY SURE THERE'S NO OTHER NONPROFIT THAT IS NOT A MILLION
9:53:06AM OR BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION THAT CAN HOLD A BLAME TO US.
9:53:10AM WE HAVE OVER 443, FIVE-STAR GOOGLE REVIEWS.
9:53:14AM DON'T MEAN TO BRAG ABOUT IT.
9:53:16AM IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUTHENTIC AND TRANSPARENT OVERVIEW,
9:53:20AM IT'S SUBSTANTIAL WHAT ONE PERSON HAS HAD TO DO ON THEIR OWN.
9:53:24AM NO STAFF, NO MARKETING.
9:53:25AM I'M HERE TO ONCE AGAIN BRING THIS AWARENESS AND SEE IF
9:53:28AM THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN IMPLEMENT WITH
9:53:32AM CAIRO AND FRIENDS.
9:53:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, DO YOU HAVE HIS CONTACT
9:53:36AM INFORMATION?
9:53:36AM I'LL GET WITH THE CHIEF AND THEN REACH OUT WITH YOU.
9:53:39AM >> I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
9:53:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:53:42AM NEXT UP IS MR. DARYL HYCH FOLLOWED BY MR. JAMES WRIGHT.
9:54:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:54:03AM MY NAME IS DARYL HYCH.
9:54:04AM LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
9:54:08AM HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT PUBLIC/PRIVATE
9:54:12AM PARTNERSHIPS?
9:54:13AM TO UPLIFT LOW-INCOME AREAS, REFORM TO POLICING OR THE NEED
9:54:19AM TO ADDRESS MASS INCARCERATION.
9:54:22AM THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S IMPORTANT, ONLY TO SEE NOTHING HAPPEN.
9:54:27AM IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE ISSUES.
9:54:32AM IT'S NOT THAT THE SOLUTIONS AREN'T CLEAR.
9:54:35AM IT'S THAT SIMPLY PUT, NOBODY CARES.
9:54:40AM NOBODY CARES THAT THE ENTIRE COMMUNES OF COLOR REMAIN
9:54:45AM TRAPPED IN THE CYCLE OF POVERTY BECAUSE THE INVESTMENTS THAT
9:54:48AM CAN CHANGE THEIR LIVES ARE DELAYED, WATERED DOWN, OR
9:54:54AM ABANDONED.
9:54:55AM WE HEAR THE PLANS.
9:54:57AM WE READ THE PROMISES, BUT STILL THESE LOW-INCOME AREAS
9:55:01AM REMAIN LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WITH POWER, THEY TEND
9:55:05AM TO THINK THAT WE HAVE TIME.
9:55:07AM THEY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ALWAYS TOMORROW TO DEAL WITH THE
9:55:11AM INEQUITIES OF TODAY.
9:55:14AM NOBODY CARES THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS REMAIN
9:55:19AM DISPROPORTIONATELY INCARCERATED, THAT REHABILITATION REMAINS
9:55:23AM A HOLLOW PROMISE AND REENTRY IS OFTEN A DEAD END.
9:55:31AM UNTIL IT'S YOUR BROTHER, YOUR MOTHER, YOUR FATHER, YOUR
9:55:35AM FRIEND, CAUGHT UP IN THESE SYSTEMS, DESIGNED TO KEEP PEOPLE
9:55:40AM DOWN, RATHER THAN TO LIFT THEM UP, IT IS EASY FOR YOU TO
9:55:44AM LOOK AWAY.
9:55:45AM NOBODY CARES THAT IN OUR SCHOOLS THEY AREN'T LEARNING THE
9:55:51AM FULL TRUTH ABOUT THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY.
9:55:53AM THEY AREN'T LEARNING ABOUT SLAVERY OR JIM CROW OR HOW THE
9:55:57AM LEGACY STILL SHAPE INEQUALITY TODAY.
9:56:00AM ERASING HISTORY TO MAKE OURSELVES FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE
9:56:06AM PRESENT AND IN DOING SO WE ARE DENYING FUTURE GENERATIONS'
9:56:12AM KNOWLEDGE TO A BETTER TOMORROW.
9:56:13AM HERE IS THE THING, UNTIL WE ALL CARE, UNTIL WE ALL FULLY
9:56:19AM CARE, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
9:56:21AM SEE, WE'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE FOR OVER A YEAR, NEARLY A
9:56:25AM YEAR TALKING ABOUT RESOLUTION NUMBER 568.
9:56:29AM SEPTEMBER THE 3rd WAS THE FOUR-YEAR ANNIVERSARY, NOT A
9:56:34AM MENTION.
9:56:34AM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:56:35AM I'VE COME TO CONCLUDE NOBODY CARES.
9:56:41AM IT'S TIME TO STOP PRETENDING THAT TOMORROW IS PROMISED.
9:56:46AM IT'S TIME TO STOP HOPING THAT SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO THE WORK.
9:56:50AM IT'S TIME TO START CARING TODAY.
9:56:55AM IT'S TIME TO LOOK INTO YOUR OWN MIRROR AND WHEN YOU WALK
9:56:58AM PAST THE MIRROR WHEN YOU LEAVE HOME IN THE MORNING AND ASK
9:57:01AM YOURSELF, DO I REALLY CARE?
9:57:04AM BECAUSE WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW, THAT WE'RE AT THE POINT OF
9:57:07AM TEARS AND FRUSTRATION AND ANGER BECAUSE YET NOBODY CARES.
9:57:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:57:17AM NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES WRIGHT FOLLOWED BY MS. KELLA
9:57:20AM McCASKILL.
9:57:22AM JAMES WRIGHT IS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.
9:57:24AM WE'LL GIVE HIM A MOMENT.
9:57:34AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:57:50AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:57:52AM >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS.
9:58:01AM SHE WANTED TO JUMP AHEAD OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
9:58:08AM MY NAME IS JAMES WRIGHT.
9:58:14AM LONGTIME MEMBER OF THE YELLOW JACKETS LITTLE LEAGUE.
9:58:17AM I COME THIS MORNING TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO OUR LEAGUE
9:58:23AM CRY FOR FAIRNESS AND TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO
9:58:28AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR HER COMMENTS AND EFFORTS ON OUR
9:58:34AM BEHALF.
9:58:36AM THE FIRST IN SEVEN YEARS.
9:58:38AM NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER STEPPED UP FROM THE CITY AND SPOKEN UP,
9:58:43AM SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE WANT TO THANK HER VERY MUCH AND
9:58:48AM THE COUNCIL FOR STEPPING IN ALSO.
9:58:55AM ON 8/15, WE HAD AN ARTICLE IN THE TIMES REGARDING OUR
9:58:59AM LEAGUE.
9:59:00AM TWO CITY OFFICIALS SPOKE NOTING THAT I DID NOT CALL THEIR
9:59:10AM NAME.
9:59:11AM I CALL THEM CITY OFFICIALS.
9:59:13AM I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW ONE THING.
9:59:17AM BOTH COMMENTS FROM THE CITY OFFICIALS WERE NOT FACT.
9:59:25AM I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THOSE TWO OFFICIALS I
9:59:35AM HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO.
9:59:37AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND TIME.
9:59:39AM HAVE A GOOD MORNING.
9:59:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:59:42AM OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MS. KELLA McCASKILL.
9:59:47AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
9:59:54AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:59:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:59:55AM MY NAME IS KELLA McCASKILL.
9:59:57AM I DIDN'T COME TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT GLAD TO HEAR THE
10:00:01AM SALARY INCREASE IS ON THE BUDGET BUT I THINK I WAS THE FIRST
10:00:03AM PERSON TO TALK ABOUT IT WHEN WE WERE SPOILED WITH COUNCIL
10:00:06AM MEMBERS.
10:00:07AM COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER.
10:00:10AM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, CARLSON.
10:00:11AM WE HAD ACTIVE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:00:15AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NOW.
10:00:16AM I STILL WANT YOU TO GET THE RAISE BUT I WANT YOU TO DO WORK.
10:00:20AM WE WANT CALLS BACK, ENGAGEMENT, ACTION.
10:00:23AM I'M COMING DOWN HERE TODAY AS A FOUNDER OF A NONPROFIT
10:00:27AM ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS WITH MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.
10:00:31AM I'M ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS TASKED WITH REDEVELOPMENT WITH
10:00:34AM SOME OF THE FAMILIES ALONG THE NEBRASKA CORRIDOR.
10:00:36AM I'M CONCERNED AS A RESIDENT, CONCERNED AS A DEVELOPER, I'M
10:00:39AM CONCERNED AS A NONPROFIT, WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION ALONG
10:00:44AM THE NEBRASKA AREA WITH THE NEW LAW COMING INTO EFFECT IN
10:00:47AM OCTOBER.
10:00:47AM I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE IN A MATTER OF DAYS IT WILL BE ILLEGAL
10:00:51AM FOR THEM TO SLEEP IN PUBLIC PLACES, I BELIEVE.
10:00:54AM I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CONVERSATION, NO ENERGETIC ROBUST
10:00:58AM DISCUSSION TO THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT
10:01:00AM THAT.
10:01:01AM I MOVED FROM SOUTH TAMPA TO EAST TAMPA, SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE
10:01:04AM HEIGHTS.
10:01:05AM I'M LOOKING AT THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN FRONT OF MY DOOR
10:01:08AM SLEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE POLICE, THEY MAY OR
10:01:11AM MAY NOT SHOW UP.
10:01:12AM FIRE DEPARTMENT MAY OR MAY NOT STOP TO CHECK ON THEM.
10:01:15AM I'M CONCERNED WHEN THIS BECOMES ILLEGAL, WHAT IS THE PLAN.
10:01:19AM HADN'T HEARD IT, HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.
10:01:22AM IF IT'S BEEN HERE, SEND IT TO ME BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
10:01:25AM I REACHED OUT.
10:01:26AM MY CLIENT OFFERED ME A SITE ALONG NEBRASKA IN THE MIDDLE OF
10:01:29AM ALL THE ACTION, MIDDLE OF THE HOMELESSNESS, CRIME AND
10:01:32AM EVERYTHING ELSE, OFFERED AS A RESOURCE CENTER, HEY, IF THE
10:01:35AM CITY CAN PARTNER, PUT SOME TYPE OF TPD, FIRE DEPARTMENT,
10:01:40AM SOME TYPE OF ACTIVITY AS RESOURCE CENTER TO ADDRESS MENTAL
10:01:44AM HEALTH, HOMELESSNESS, ADDRESS SOME OF THE CRIME AND THEN TO
10:01:47AM ADDRESS RESOURCES SO WHEN THIS DOES HAPPEN WE'RE OFFERING
10:01:50AM THIS AS A SOLUTION.
10:01:52AM MAJOR STAKEHOLDER ALONG THE NEBRASKA CORRIDOR FROM FLORIDA
10:01:55AM AVENUE TO I WOULD SAY FLORIBRASKA TO LAKE.
10:01:58AM AND THEY WANTED TO OFFER AS A RESOURCE.
10:02:00AM I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM THAT.
10:02:02AM LIKE TO HEAR FOLLOW-UP.
10:02:04AM I'M EQUALLY CONCERNED WITH ANOTHER POPULATION.
10:02:07AM THAT IS THE SENIOR CITIZENS.
10:02:09AM ONE-THIRD OF THE SENIORS ARE UNSHELTERED.
10:02:14AM THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, BEEN GOING THROUGH IT TRYING TO DIGEST
10:02:18AM IT.
10:02:18AM TO ME IT GAVE ME A SENSE OF URGENCY BUT I HADN'T SEEN IT
10:02:22AM REFLECTED HERE.
10:02:23AM HADN'T SEEN IT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, HERE, CRA, NOWHERE,
10:02:26AM NOT REALLY ADDRESSING THE HOUSING CRISIS AS WE SHOULD.
10:02:29AM I WANT TO KNOW FOR THIS WHAT IS THE PLAN.
10:02:34AM I DON'T SEE THE URGENCY TO MATCH THE ACTIONS REFLECTED IN
10:02:37AM THE REPORT.
10:02:37AM I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WILL IMPACT US WHEN MOST OF THE
10:02:42AM INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE WALKED OUT THE DOOR.
10:02:46AM HAS NICOLE TRAVIS ROLE BEEN REPLACED?
10:02:50AM IS IT ON THE MARKET? IS IT AVAILABLE?
10:02:52AM HOW IS THE LACK OF STAFF GOING TO AFFECT US?
10:02:52AM BECAUSE WE HAVE CRISIS GOING ON AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
10:02:54AM STAFF TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
10:02:56AM WHAT WILL YOU DO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SUFFERING EVEN MORE
10:03:01AM AS A RESULT.
10:03:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:03:03AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:03:05AM WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4, MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.
10:03:12AM WE HAVE A POSITION OPEN FOR THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
10:03:19AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:03:21AM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
10:03:24AM I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE MR. CHASE CORLEY WHO WORKS IN FINANCE.
10:03:33AM AND HE'S ASKING TO BE APPOINTED AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF
10:03:39AM THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
10:03:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:03:48AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:03:49AM >> HI.
10:03:50AM MY NAME IS CHASE CORLEY.
10:03:51AM GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE CHAIR MANISCALCO AND MEMBERS OF CITY
10:03:54AM COUNCIL.
10:03:54AM MY NAME IS CHASE AND I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO
10:03:58AM BE APPOINTED FOR THE ALTERNATE POSITION ON THE BARRIO LATINO
10:04:00AM COMMISSION.
10:04:02AM LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME, I GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
10:04:06AM TAMPA WITH A BACHELOR'S OF SCIENCE AND FINANCE.
10:04:09AM IN 2018, I WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS
10:04:12AM AND FOUNDED THE UT GUITAR CLUB WHILE I WAS THERE.
10:04:16AM RIGHT AFTER THAT I ORCHESTRATED THE JIMI HENDRIX
10:04:20AM COMMEMORATION IN CURTIS HIXON PARK IN 2018.
10:04:23AM LIVED DOWNTOWN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
10:04:25AM MY BACKGROUND IS FINANCE AND BUSINESS.
10:04:27AM I ALSO HAVE TWO MASTERS DEGREES FROM UT, MBA AND MS IN
10:04:32AM FINANCE.
10:04:33AM I'VE LED LARGE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND DYNAMIC
10:04:37AM AND FAST PACED WORK SETTINGS BEFORE.
10:04:40AM I'M ALSO INVOLVED IN VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN TAMPA
10:04:43AM BAY SUCH AS AROUND THE WORLD WITH ST. JUDE GALA COMMUNITY,
10:04:46AM TAMPA THEATRE WINE FEST COMMITTEE, UT AND THE GUILD AT THE
10:04:52AM DOLLY.
10:04:52AM ALSO FORTUNATE TO OPERATE THE HISTORIC STREETCARS AND HAVE A
10:04:55AM REALLY STRONG CONNECTION WITH YBOR CITY'S LIVING HISTORY.
10:04:59AM ONE OF MY FAVORITE SPOTS IN YBOR IS JOSE MARTI.
10:05:05AM HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY IN HAVANA, CUBA WHILE A STUDENT
10:05:11AM AT UT.
10:05:12AM I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED EXPLORING CUBA AND MEETING ITS PEOPLE.
10:05:16AM THE PARK IS A SPECIAL PLACE TO REFLECT ON HOW FORTUNATE WE
10:05:20AM ARE TO HAVE A UNIQUE CITY.
10:05:24AM WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS COMMISSION IS IT BALANCES THE
10:05:26AM HISTORIC PAST WITH A VISION FOR THE FUTURE.
10:05:29AM I WOULD BE HONORED TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AS A MEMBER.
10:05:34AM THANK YOU.
10:05:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:35AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:05:36AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:05:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAD ME AT STREETCAR.
10:05:43AM AS WE LOOK AT THE BARRIO, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, WE'RE
10:05:47AM DOING A GOOD JOB AND THE COMMISSION IS DOING A GREAT JOB AS
10:05:51AM HISTORICAL PRESERVATION.
10:05:52AM WE DO NEED TO INCORPORATE MORE GREENSPACE INTO THE BARRIO.
10:05:56AM ONE OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.
10:05:59AM THANK YOU.
10:05:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY VERY IMPRESSIVE PERSON.
10:06:02AM I NEVER MET YOU.
10:06:04AM CONGRATULATIONS GRADUATING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA WITH
10:06:08AM TWO DEGREES.
10:06:09AM >> TWO MASTERS AND A BACHELOR'S.
10:06:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHO YOU ARE AND
10:06:16AM WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
10:06:18AM I'M SURE YOU WILL BE AN EXCELLENT INDIVIDUAL ON THIS BOARD.
10:06:21AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10:06:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND CARLSON.
10:06:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT FOLKS HAVE SAID.
10:06:29AM RESUM AND BACKGROUND SEEM STELLAR.
10:06:33AM PRESENTATION STELLAR.
10:06:33AM SEEM LIKE A VERY IMPRESSIVE PERSON.
10:06:36AM EVERYTHING YOU LISTED IS AMAZING.
10:06:37AM I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR BEING SOMEBODY WHO IS OBVIOUSLY
10:06:40AM VERY, VERY BUSY AND MAKE YOURSELF BUSIER BY WANTING TO SERVE
10:06:44AM THE PUBLIC.
10:06:45AM THAT'S ALL.
10:06:45AM THANK YOU.
10:06:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:47AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:06:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: ECHO THE SAME THING.
10:06:51AM CONGRATS ON ALL YOUR EXPERIENCE IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
10:06:54AM THE THING I ESPECIALLY WANTED TO MENTION, I'M GLAD YOU SPENT
10:06:58AM TIME STUDYING IN CUBA AND GRAB YOU MENTIONED THE JOSE MARTI
10:07:03AM PARK.
10:07:05AM THE HISTORY OF TAMPA AND CUBA, AS I HAVE SAID IN TALKING
10:07:09AM ABOUT OTHER PLACES, TAMPA WAS THE MAIN GATEWAY TO CUBA WHEN
10:07:15AM MIAMI WAS A LITTLE FISHING VILLAGE.
10:07:17AM EVEN OUR LOGO IN THE CITY IS SYMBOLIC OF THE STEAMSHIP LINES
10:07:20AM BETWEEN TAMPA AND CUBA.
10:07:22AM OUR HISTORY WITH JOSE MARTI IS SOMETHING WE CAN BE REALLY
10:07:26AM PROUD OF.
10:07:26AM ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, I SPONSORED THROUGH THE FLORIDA
10:07:29AM HUMANITIES COUNCIL, THE JOSE MARTI TRAIL.
10:07:32AM IT IS A FREE AUDIO TOUR THAT TALKS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF JOSE
10:07:36AM MARTI IN YBOR AND TAKES TO YOU NINE DIFFERENT PLACES THAT HE
10:07:39AM VISITED.
10:07:40AM I THINK THAT HISTORY IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO TELL, NOT
10:07:45AM JUST FOR THE DAY THAT WE RETURN TO HAVING CRUISE SHIPS GOING
10:07:48AM BACK AND FORTH TO CUBA, BUT CONTINUE TO TELL THE HISTORY AND
10:07:52AM CULTURE.
10:07:52AM YBOR IS EVOLVING.
10:07:54AM CAN'T GO BACK TO THE '50s AND BRING ALL THE FAMILIES BACK,
10:07:57AM BUT CAN CONTINUE TO TELL THE STORIES OF OUR HISTORY, THE
10:08:00AM JEWISH HISTORY, SICILIAN HISTORY, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN
10:08:04AM HISTORY, THE CUBAN AND SPANISH HISTORY, ET CETERA.
10:08:08AM ALL THOSE STORIES TOGETHER CREATE A REALLY UNIQUE DYNAMIC
10:08:11AM ENVIRONMENT FOR YBOR AND LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH YOU
10:08:15AM ON THE EVOLUTION OF YBOR AS WE GO FORWARD.
10:08:18AM THANK YOU.
10:08:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:08:25AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:08:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A RESOLUTION PREPARED, IF YOU MOVE
10:08:29AM THE RESOLUTION.
10:08:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION
10:08:31AM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
10:08:34AM MEMBER VIERA.
10:08:35AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:08:36AM AYE.
10:08:36AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:08:37AM CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
10:08:40AM WELCOME TO THE BOARD.
10:08:41AM NEXT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION AND THIS ONE IS APPROVING MR. JIM
10:08:48AM McCARTHY, JAMES McCARTHY AS MEMBER OF THE AFFORDABLE
10:08:51AM HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR A THREE-YEAR TERM COMMENCING
10:08:54AM ON SEPTEMBER 5, WHICH IS TODAY.
10:08:56AM I KNOW HE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
10:09:00AM MR. McCARTHY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?
10:09:03AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
10:09:04AM >> LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
10:09:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:06AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
10:09:08AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:09:09AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:09:11AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:09:12AM AYE.
10:09:13AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:09:14AM CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
10:09:16AM LAST, THIS IS MY APPOINTMENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL CITIZENS
10:09:24AM ADVISORY BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, MR. ALBERT COOKE.
10:09:27AM HE SERVED ON THE CRB FOR MANY YEARS.
10:09:30AM HE LIVES IN YBOR CITY.
10:09:31AM HE'S A GOOD PERSON.
10:09:33AM VERY INTELLIGENT GENTLEMAN AND I KNOW HE'S GOING TO DO A
10:09:36AM FANTASTIC JOB AND JOIN OTHER BOARD MEMBERS OF WHICH I SEE
10:09:40AM MS. STEPHANIE POYNOR IN THE BACK.
10:09:42AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE 6?
10:09:44AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
10:09:46AM MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:09:47AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:09:47AM AYE.
10:09:48AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:09:49AM ALL RIGHT.
10:09:51AM WE'LL GO TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
10:09:52AM FIRST IS PUBLIC SAFETY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, 7-13.
10:09:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVE.
10:09:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, SECOND
10:09:59AM FROM MIRANDA.
10:09:59AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:10:00AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:10:00AM NEXT UP WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:10:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS
10:10:07AM COMMITTEE, I MOVE ITEMS 14 THROUGH 20.
10:10:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:10:12AM SECOND FROM VIERA.
10:10:12AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:10:13AM AYE.
10:10:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT 23?
10:10:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS IT OKAY WITH THE CHAIR OF THE
10:10:23AM COMMITTEE?
10:10:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: 23 IS A CONTRACT FOR A PLAN FOR SULPHUR
10:10:30AM SPRINGS.
10:10:31AM I THINK ALL OF US HAVE SPENT TIME IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND
10:10:34AM WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
10:10:36AM WE WANT TO HELP LIFT THE COMMUNITY UP.
10:10:37AM I LOOKED AT THE BACKGROUND ON THE CONSULTANT AND I ALSO
10:10:41AM LOOKED AT THE DETAILED WORK FLOW.
10:10:43AM THE DETAILED WORK FLOW HAS A VERY DETAILED SET OF STEPS THAT
10:10:51AM THEY ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY.
10:10:53AM IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE SCOPE OF WORK IN THE CONTRACT, IT IS
10:11:05AM VERY DETAILED.
10:11:06AM IT INCLUDES LOOKING AT NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITY AND
10:11:09AM POVERTY ISSUES, ET CETERA.
10:11:12AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY -- I WANT TO MAKE A
10:11:16AM STATEMENT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE REALLY FOCUS ON ALL OF
10:11:19AM THOSE THINGS.
10:11:19AM A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY
10:11:22AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:11:22AM THE SAME AS OUR STAFF WAS DOING WHEN WE HAD A FULL ECONOMIC
10:11:25AM DEVELOPMENT STAFF.
10:11:26AM IN THE PAST, THE CITY HAS FOCUSED ON REAL ESTATE
10:11:28AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:11:29AM WE NEED TO FOCUS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:11:31AM THE COMMUNITY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS DOESN'T WANT 20-STORY
10:11:34AM HIGH-RISES WITH GLASS TOWERS.
10:11:38AM THEY WANT THE COMMUNITY UPLIFTED.
10:11:40AM WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BACKGROUND OF THE FOLKS INVOLVED, I
10:11:44AM DIDN'T SEE ANY AFRICAN AMERICANS, SO I HOPE THEY HAVE SOME
10:11:46AM AFRICAN AMERICANS ON THEIR TEAM.
10:11:47AM I HOPE THEY HAVE HISPANICS ON THE TEAM AND OTHERS TO
10:11:51AM REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES OF
10:11:53AM THE COMMUNITY.
10:11:54AM MOST IMPORTANTLY, I HOPE THEY DON'T FOCUS ON REAL ESTATE
10:11:57AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:11:57AM I CAN TELL THEY WERE PICKED AND THE SCOPE OF WORK REFLECTS
10:12:00AM THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO JUST DO THAT.
10:12:03AM ALL THE DISCUSSION ABOUT A CRA WORRIES ME BECAUSE IT SEEMS
10:12:06AM LIKE THERE ARE DEVELOPERS WHO JUST WANT TO GO IN AND
10:12:09AM GENTRIFY EVERYTHING.
10:12:10AM WHAT I WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE BUILD UP THE COMMUNITY.
10:12:13AM I'M HAPPY THIS IS GOING FORWARD.
10:12:15AM MAKE SURE WHOEVER ENDS UP MANAGING THEM REALLY MANAGES THIS
10:12:17AM TO HELP THE COMMUNITY NOT TRY TO GENTRIFY IT.
10:12:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:21AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
10:12:24AM MOVE THOSE ITEMS EXCEPT FOR 28?
10:12:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 21 THROUGH 27 AND 29.
10:12:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:12:32AM HURTAK.
10:12:32AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:12:34AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:12:35AM AYE.
10:12:35AM NEXT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, IF YOU COULD MOVE ITEMS 30,
10:12:40AM 31, AND 32.
10:12:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 30, 31 AND 32.
10:12:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:12:47AM SECOND FROM VIERA.
10:12:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:12:48AM AYE.
10:12:50AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, IF YOU COULD MOVE 35 THROUGH 45.
10:12:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 41 AND 42 HAVE BEEN PULLED.
10:13:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY.
10:13:02AM IF YOU COULD MOVE 35 TO 39, THEN 41, THEN 43, 4 AND 5.
10:13:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT HE SAID.
10:13:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE ARE SO MANY NUMBERS.
10:13:15AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:13:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:13:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:13:19AM AYE.
10:13:20AM GOING QUICKLY HERE.
10:13:22AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, MOVE 46 THROUGH 54.
10:13:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 46 THROUGH 54.
10:13:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:13:31AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:13:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:13:33AM AYE.
10:13:34AM ITEM NUMBER 56, THIS IS TO CALL -- SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR
10:13:41AM OCTOBER 17, 2024, AT 10:30 A.M., CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, OLD
10:13:45AM CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
10:13:48AM 33602.
10:13:50AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:13:51AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:13:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:13:53AM AYE.
10:13:54AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:13:54AM WE ARE GOING TO GO -- NOW THAT WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT, MOVE
10:14:05AM 66 THROUGH 70.
10:14:08AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:14:10AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:14:15AM OH, VIERA.
10:14:15AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:14:16AM AYE.
10:14:17AM THAT SETTLES THOSE.
10:14:18AM THOSE ARE UNDER THE STAFF REPORTS.
10:14:21AM A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:14:25AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:14:26AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:14:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:14:28AM AYE.
10:14:30AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:14:30AM ITEM NUMBER 57 IS A NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL, SO WE DON'T NEED TO
10:14:38AM SWEAR ANYBODY IN, BUT THE FOLLOWING ONES ARE.
10:14:47AM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:14:49AM THIS IS SECOND READING FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE YBOR
10:14:52AM PARKING LOT, SECTION 27-178.
10:14:56AM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, COUNCIL INSTRUCTED STAFF
10:15:02AM TO MAKE SPECIFIC CHANGES TO THE CODE, INCLUDING CHANGE THE
10:15:05AM EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE TO OCTOBER 15, 2024.
10:15:07AM SCRIVENER'S ERROR RELATED TO GENERAL PARKING STANDARDS
10:15:13AM SUBSECTION A-1.
10:15:15AM CLARIFY THAT APPLICATIONS FOR NEW PRINCIPAL PARKING LOTS
10:15:18AM WILL BE REVIEWED BY BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
10:15:25AM CLARIFY THAT THE CONTACT INFORMATION ON THE SIGNAGE FOR THE
10:15:29AM SECURITY COMPANY WOULD BE THE SECURITY COMPANY WITH SPECIFIC
10:15:32AM NUMBER, NOT A SPECIFIC SECURITY GUARD.
10:15:34AM ONCE WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT, APPRECIATE IF THIS WOULD BE
10:15:44AM APPROVED.
10:15:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:15:46AM COME ON UP.
10:15:47AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:15:51AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
10:15:53AM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS PROBLEMATIC IN THE CODE BEING
10:15:58AM PRESENTED.
10:15:59AM ONE OF THEM IS THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR LEGAL, NONCONFORMING
10:16:04AM LOTS AND NO REFERENCE IN THE CODE THAT SAYS LEGAL
10:16:08AM NONCONFORMING LOTS ARE EXEMPT FROM THESE STANDARDS.
10:16:12AM THOSE ARE LOTS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED LEGALLY BEFORE 1987
10:16:19AM WHEN THAT CODE WAS CHANGED.
10:16:20AM ALSO NO PROVISION IN THERE FOR HAVING SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS
10:16:24AM FOR APPROVAL FOR LOTS.
10:16:27AM NORMALLY UNDER ALL OF THE OTHER CODES, WHEN YOU SUBMIT AN
10:16:29AM APPLICATION AND ACCEPT IT AND IT'S INTO THE SYSTEM THAT
10:16:32AM VESTS YOU UNDER THE OLD CODE.
10:16:34AM THIS CODE INDICATES THAT YOU HAVE TO BE -- YOU HAVE TO HAVE
10:16:39AM AN APPROVED SET OF PLANS BY THE EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:16:45AM SO THIS IS A DEPARTURE FROM ALL OF THE OTHER CITY CODES AS
10:16:48AM FAR AS I KNOW.
10:16:49AM THERE MAY BE SOME EXCEPTIONS, BUT I BELIEVE BUILDING CODES,
10:16:53AM FIRE MARSHAL CODES, ALL OF THE LIFE SAFETY CODES, IF YOU ARE
10:16:57AM IN UNDER THE OLD SYSTEM AND YOU HAVE AN ACCEPTED
10:17:02AM APPLICATION, YOU'RE VESTED UNDER THAT CODE.
10:17:05AM THIS CODE IS DIFFERENT.
10:17:06AM IT MAKES YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT.
10:17:09AM I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU THIS DIAGRAM PREPARED BY THE CITY.
10:17:15AM I'VE SHOWN IT TO YOU BEFORE.
10:17:17AM AVERAGE PROCESSING TIME, AVERAGES NOW.
10:17:25AM THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE TO GO
10:17:27AM THROUGH THE BARRIO AND PERMITTING THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION
10:17:29AM SERVICES CENTER COMMERCIAL ALTERATION 34, NEW CONSTRUCTION,
10:17:39AM 49 DAYS.
10:17:40AM BASICALLY, EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE CHANGED THE DATE,
10:17:45AM THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME.
10:17:46AM I URGE YOU TO CHANGE THAT CODE AND MAKE THE VESTING OCCUR
10:17:51AM WHEN YOU HAVE AN APPLICATION THAT'S BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE
10:17:54AM CITY.
10:17:55AM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN REVIEW.
10:18:01AM RAISE THE ISSUE AGAIN REGARDING PAID VERSUS UNPAID LOTS.
10:18:06AM WE SENT THIS TO YOU BEFORE WHERE YOU HAVE PAID LOTS
10:18:10AM IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO UNPAID LOTS.
10:18:15AM MAKES NO SENSE TO HAVE SECURITY REQUIRED FOR ONE AND NOT THE
10:18:18AM OTHER.
10:18:18AM THOSE ARE THREE DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THE PROXIMITY OF PAID
10:18:23AM VERSUS UNPAID LOTS.
10:18:24AM THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION, AS I SAID, WE HAVE
10:18:29AM PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE SYSTEM.
10:18:34AM THERE IS A LIST OF THEM.
10:18:36AM NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE PERMITTED.
10:18:38AM SO WE'RE AT RISK BEING IMMEDIATELY BEING FOUND TO HAVE TO GO
10:18:42AM THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS AND AN ENTIRE REVIEW OF THOSE
10:18:47AM APPLICATIONS, WHICH IS UNFAIR.
10:18:50AM YOU ALSO HAVE DOCUMENTS PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED.
10:18:52AM WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE MADE PART OF THE RECORD
10:18:54AM REGARDING OUR OBJECTIVES TO THIS.
10:18:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:18:57AM NEXT SPEAKER, YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:19:01AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:19:03AM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T HAVE ANY
10:19:05AM PROBLEMS WITH THESE CHANGES.
10:19:07AM AFTER ABOUT MICHELINI SPOKE, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS.
10:19:10AM FIRST OF ALL, THE UNPAID LOTS ARE FOR BUSINESSES.
10:19:14AM I HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WAS.
10:19:16AM THOSE BUSINESSES ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE IN THEM.
10:19:18AM SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNPAID LOT AND A PAID LOT MAKES
10:19:23AM SENSE.
10:19:23AM THEY ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.
10:19:26AM IF SOMEBODY SEES SOMETHING STUPID HAPPENING IN THE COLUMBIA
10:19:29AM PARKING LOT, GUESS WHAT, THERE IS AN EMPLOYEE THERE TO TAKE
10:19:32AM CARE OF IT.
10:19:33AM THEY CAN WALK IN AND TELL THE PERSON AT THE FRONT DESK, HEY,
10:19:36AM THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN YOUR PARKING LOT.
10:19:38AM YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK ON THAT.
10:19:40AM GUESS WHAT, I'M GUESSING THEY'LL GO OUT AND CHECK ON IT.
10:19:43AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:19:44AM DO I HAVE ANY PITY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING
10:19:48AM THEIR CRAP UP TO CODE?
10:19:51AM SOME OF THE PARKING THAT ARE PAID LOTS ARE $35 TO PARK IN
10:19:55AM FOR A DAY.
10:19:56AM WHO ARE YOU KIDDING?
10:19:57AM FOR A PARKING LOT, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO INVESTIGATE
10:20:00AM YET, BUT I KNOW THAT VACANT LOTS, THEIR TAXES DON'T GO UP
10:20:06AM THE SAME WAY HOUSES DO.
10:20:09AM DOES THEIR TAX RATE GO UP?
10:20:10AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:20:11AM I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK ON THAT.
10:20:13AM IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS ON MY TO-DO LIST BECAUSE I HAVE
10:20:17AM NOTHING HELLS TO DO.
10:20:18AM I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS LIKE THE WAY IT IS, LIKE WHAT'S COMING
10:20:21AM FORWARD.
10:20:21AM IS IT PERFECT?
10:20:22AM NO.
10:20:23AM HOW LONG HAVE THEY KNOWN THAT THESE CODE CHANGES ARE COMING?
10:20:27AM A LONG STINKING TIME.
10:20:29AM ARE WE SUPPOSED TO FEEL SORRY FOR THEM THAT THEY HAVEN'T
10:20:32AM BEEN PROACTIVE AT FIXING THE PROBLEM BEFORE?
10:20:35AM NO, WE REALLY DON'T NEED TO BE.
10:20:37AM BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS SCRAP FOR
10:20:39AM YEARS.
10:20:40AM HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE CARS SLAMMING DOORS AT 3:00 IN
10:20:43AM THE MORNING?
10:20:43AM HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE FISTFIGHTING OUT THERE?
10:20:46AM HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE DRINKING IN THE PARKING
10:20:49AM LOT NEXT DOOR TO YOUR HOUSE.
10:20:51AM THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME DOWN HERE.
10:20:53AM YOU JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO
10:20:57AM THEM WHEN YOU MAKE THIS VOTE.
10:20:58AM BECAUSE, FRANKLY, I DON'T GIVE A CRAP HOW THE PAID PARKING
10:21:01AM PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT THE CITIZENS THAT
10:21:04AM HAVE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR.
10:21:06AM THE PAID PARKING PEOPLE, THEY GOT ONE VOTE.
10:21:09AM THEY CAN WRITE A BIG OL' CHECK WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTION
10:21:12AM TIME, BUT THEY STILL ONLY GOT ONE VOTE.
10:21:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:21:16AM ANYBODY ELSE HERE BECAUSE I HAVE FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS?
10:21:19AM ARE THEY ALL ONLINE?
10:21:20AM WE'LL START WITH STEPHANIE HARRISON BAILEY, THE FIRST
10:21:27AM SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY DAVID BAILEY.
10:21:29AM GO AHEAD, STEPHANIE.
10:21:30AM IF YOU WOULD UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:21:46AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
10:21:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:21:47AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:21:49AM >> STEPHANIE HARRISON BAILEY.
10:21:51AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:21:52AM I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND EVERYTHING THAT STEPHANIE POYNOR JUST
10:21:57AM SAID.
10:21:58AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ME BEING ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTS IS FULLY
10:22:01AM IN FAVOR OF THESE CODE CHANGES.
10:22:07AM REALLY, MOST OF THE THINGS THAT PARKING LOTS ARE BEING
10:22:09AM REQUIRED TO GET UP TO CODE, CODE ALREADY IN PLACE FOR MANY
10:22:16AM YEARS.
10:22:18AM THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO COME UP TO THIS
10:22:20AM CODE IS A LITTLE SILLY TO ME.
10:22:23AM I WOULD JUST ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THESE
10:22:26AM CODE CHANGES.
10:22:27AM THAT'S ALL.
10:22:27AM THANK YOU.
10:22:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:22:28AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:22:29AM OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MR. DAVID BAILEY.
10:22:37AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:22:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:22:39AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:22:40AM >> DAVID BAILEY, HISTORIC YBOR CITY.
10:22:43AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS TOPIC.
10:22:48AM YOU'VE HEARD IT TWICE BEFORE.
10:22:50AM THIS IS NOT PERFECT, BUT THIS IS PROGRESS, AND WE NEED THIS
10:22:54AM PROGRESS IN YBOR CITY AS BOTH STEPHANIES HAVE SAID, MANY OF
10:22:59AM THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED HAVE ALREADY BEEN
10:23:04AM REQUIRED FOR 20 YEARS.
10:23:07AM SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE, BUT THIS IS
10:23:12AM PROGRESS, AND IF WE WAIT FOR EVERYTHING TO BE PERFECT, WE'RE
10:23:15AM GOING TO BE WAITING TOO LONG.
10:23:16AM WE'RE GOING TO BE WAITING DECADES MORE.
10:23:18AM SO WE ASK -- HISTORIC YBOR ASKS THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS
10:23:21AM MEASURE, MOVE FORWARD AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR YBOR CITY.
10:23:25AM THANK YOU.
10:23:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:23:26AM THAT WAS THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER, YES, MA'AM.
10:23:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS BECAUSE THIS
10:23:34AM IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE.
10:23:37AM I STARTED THIS BASICALLY WHEN I STARTED COUNCIL.
10:23:41AM DUE TO THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND FROM POLICE
10:23:45AM OFFICERS THAT NEEDED MORE ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
10:23:49AM HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO POLICE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
10:23:52AM I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE CAN FINALLY GET THIS PASSED.
10:23:55AM I WOULD LOVE TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE WHEN IT'S
10:23:59AM TIME.
10:24:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
10:24:02AM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:24:02AM YES, SIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER
10:24:06AM CLENDENIN.
10:24:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, THERE ARE
10:24:09AM THINGS WE STILL NEED TO DO TO EITHER FIX THIS OR CREATE AN
10:24:13AM ADD-ON OR A PARALLEL DOCUMENT, INCLUDING THE UNPAID LOTS.
10:24:20AM I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES ON THE NIGHT OF HALLOWEEN
10:24:25AM WHERE THE MASS SHOOTING HAPPENED, TWO HOURS LATER THERE WAS
10:24:27AM A DRIVE-BY SHOOTING IN A PRIVATE UNPAID LOT ONLY A COUPLE OF
10:24:32AM BLOCKS AWAY.
10:24:32AM SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES.
10:24:35AM THE CRIME IS HAPPENING IN UNPAID AND PAID LOTS.
10:24:38AM IT CAN'T HOLD UP THIS TODAY BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT
10:24:42AM SEPARATELY AND THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED NEED TO
10:24:45AM BE ADDRESSED AS WELL.
10:24:46AM THANK YOU.
10:24:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:24:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ECHOING EXACTLY WHAT WAS JUST SAID.
10:24:50AM THE DISPARITY BETWEEN PAID AND UNPAID IS SOMETHING THAT HAS
10:24:54AM TO BE EVENTUALLY LOOKED AT.
10:24:56AM ALSO, YOU GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.
10:24:58AM THIS IS STEP A.
10:24:59AM NOT NECESSARILY THE END OF THE ROAD BUT A GOOD STEP FORWARD
10:25:03AM OR LEAP FORWARD FROM WHERE WE WERE.
10:25:06AM THIS WILL GIVE US ALSO DATA TO SEE IF IT IMPROVES THE
10:25:11AM SITUATION.
10:25:11AM THIS IS A MOVEMENT FORWARD BUT WE STILL NEED TO KEEP AN EYE
10:25:14AM ON ALL OF THE PROPERTIES AND ALL OF THE LOTS AND HOW WE DEAL
10:25:17AM WITH IT GOING FORWARD.
10:25:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:25:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:21AM I'LL AGAIN SUPPORT THIS.
10:25:23AM OBVIOUSLY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IT'S GOOD TO WORK ON
10:25:26AM SOMETHING FOR A WHILE AND SEE THE CHICKENS COMING HOME TO
10:25:30AM ROOST IN A GOOD WAY.
10:25:32AM TO SEE THE RESULTS OF HARD WORK DONE, ET CETERA, THIS IS
10:25:36AM SOMETHING THAT TO ME MOVES PUBLIC SAFETY FORWARD AND I'LL BE
10:25:40AM GLAD TO SUPPORT IT.
10:25:41AM THANK YOU.
10:25:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
10:25:43AM HEARING?
10:25:43AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:25:45AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:25:47AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:25:48AM AYE.
10:25:49AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU WANTED TO READ THE SUBSTITUTE.
10:25:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:25:53AM FILE E2024-8 CHAPTER 27, SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING
10:25:58AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:26:00AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
10:26:03AM PUBLICLY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS, MAKING REVISIONS TO THE
10:26:06AM CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, AMENDING CHAPTER 27,
10:26:11AM ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-178,
10:26:14AM ALTERNATIVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES
10:26:16AM OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
10:26:19AM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:26:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
10:26:23AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:26:28AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
10:26:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:31AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO -- NO.
10:26:35AM STILL NOT 10:30.
10:26:38AM THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPEN FOR THE 10:00.
10:26:42AM THESE ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS MOVING FORWARD.
10:26:46AM IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THESE 10 A.M. PUBLIC
10:26:49AM HEARINGS, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SWEAR
10:26:52AM YOU IN.
10:26:53AM WE HAVE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS, SO IT'S EVERYBODY THAT'S IN
10:26:55AM THE ROOM.
10:27:00AM [OATH ADMINISTERED BY THE CLERK]
10:27:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:05AM MR. SHELBY.
10:27:06AM THESE ARE THE 10:00.
10:27:09AM I'M LOOKING AT MY WATCH TO MAKE SURE I DON'T HIT THE 10:30.
10:27:13AM I OPENED THE 10 A.M., NOT THE 10:30.
10:27:19AM IT'S EERILY QUIET IN HERE TODAY.
10:27:23AM THAT'S CONCERNING.
10:27:24AM AS AN OVERTHINKER, IT'S CONCERNING.
10:27:26AM ITEM 58.
10:27:29AM DO WE HAVE A PETITIONER FOR 58?
10:27:33AM YES, SIR, I SEE MR. THOMAS.
10:27:35AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:27:35AM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
10:27:38AM >> SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:27:39AM ITEM 58 IS REZ 24-43, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED
10:27:44AM AT 3614 TEMPLE STREET.
10:27:46AM REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO
10:27:50AM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 18.
10:27:51AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:27:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. THOMAS?
10:27:54AM NO.
10:27:55AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU WERE ABSENT AT THE VOTE FOR 58.
10:27:59AM WERE YOU ABLE TO REVIEW THE RECORD?
10:28:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I WAS.
10:28:02AM THANK YOU.
10:28:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APPLICANT, COME ON UP.
10:28:05AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:28:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:28:06AM MY NAME IS MARIA GOUDE.
10:28:10AM I AM THE AGENT.
10:28:12AM WE'RE LOOKING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM 16 TO RM 18.
10:28:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
10:28:18AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
10:28:19AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 58?
10:28:22AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:28:25AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:28:26AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:27AM AYE.
10:28:28AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:28AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING 58?
10:28:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 58, REZ-24-43, ORDINANCE BEING
10:28:35AM PRESENTED FOR REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:28:41AM 3614 TEMPLE STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
10:28:44AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:28:46AM CLASSIFICATION, R M-16 TO RM-18, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:28:50AM DATE.
10:28:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:28:53AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:28:56AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:28:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:58AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:29:00AM >> THANK YOU.
10:29:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 59.
10:29:04AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:29:06AM ITEM 59 IS REZ 24-46, ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE
10:29:10AM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5825 SOUTH 5th STREET.
10:29:14AM REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 60 TO RESIDENTIAL
10:29:17AM SINGLE-FAMILY 50.
10:29:18AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:29:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
10:29:30AM >> STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER.
10:29:35AM THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY
10:29:38AM QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:29:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:40AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
10:29:41AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM 59?
10:29:45AM SEE NO ONE.
10:29:46AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:29:48AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:29:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:50AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:29:55AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:29:57AM GENERAL VICINITY OF 5825 SOUTH 5th STREET IN THE CITY OF
10:30:01AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:30:04AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 60, RESIDENTIAL
10:30:08AM SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS 50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY,
10:30:10AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:30:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH A
10:30:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:30:15AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:30:19AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:30:21AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:30:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:30:23AM ITEM NUMBER 60.
10:30:25AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:30:27AM ITEM 60 IS REZ 24-48, REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:30:33AM 2201 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE, REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL
10:30:39AM SINGLE-FAMILY 60 TO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50.
10:30:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:30:43AM I SEE NO ONE.
10:30:45AM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 60?
10:30:47AM I SEE NO ONE.
10:30:48AM NO ONE REGISTERED.
10:30:50AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 60.
10:30:53AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
10:30:55AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:30:57AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:30:57AM AYE.
10:30:58AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:31:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FILE NUMBER REZ-24-48, AN ORDINANCE BEING
10:31:04AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
10:31:07AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2201 NORTH
10:31:10AM GLENWOOD DRIVE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
10:31:13AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:31:16AM CLASSIFICATION RS-60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50,
10:31:20AM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:31:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:31:26AM HENDERSON.
10:31:26AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:31:27AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:31:32AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:31:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:34AM ITEM NUMBER 61 IS NEXT.
10:31:37AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:31:39AM ITEM 61 IS REZ 24-51.
10:31:42AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:31:45AM 701, 705 AND 801 EAST WILMA STREET.
10:31:49AM REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 60 TO COMMERCIAL
10:31:52AM NEIGHBORHOOD TO RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY 18.
10:31:55AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:31:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. THOMAS?
10:31:57AM I SEE NO ONE.
10:31:58AM IS THERE ANYBODY HERE, APPLICANT FOR ITEM 61?
10:32:05AM >> YES.
10:32:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. LAROCCA.
10:32:08AM WAS HE SWORN IN?
10:32:10AM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:32:13AM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
10:32:16AM ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:32:18AM >> I DO.
10:32:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:32:20AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN.
10:32:21AM >> JOHN LAROCCA, MURPHY LAROCCA CONSULTING, SOUTH
10:32:25AM MacDILL AVENUE, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AND OWNER.
10:32:28AM NOTHING NEW TO ADD SINCE THE CLOSE AND ACTION TAKEN AT THE
10:32:31AM FIRST READING.
10:32:32AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
10:32:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
10:32:35AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 61 WE HAVE A
10:32:38AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:32:39AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:32:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:32:42AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:32:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE FILE REZ 24-51, ORDINANCE BEING
10:32:47AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
10:32:50AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 701, 705, AND
10:32:53AM 801 EAST WILMA STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
10:32:57AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:33:00AM CLASSIFICATIONS RS-60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, AND CN,
10:33:04AM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, TO RM-18, RESIDENTIAL,
10:33:06AM MULTI-FAMILY.
10:33:08AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:33:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:33:10AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:33:12AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:33:16AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:33:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:22AM MOTION TO OPEN THE 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING.
10:33:24AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:33:25AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:33:27AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:33:27AM AYE.
10:33:28AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:33:29AM THIS IS ALSO QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:33:32AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 62.
10:33:45AM IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT
10:33:48AM HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN FOR 62.
10:33:53AM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
10:33:55AM ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:33:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:00AM >> I WANT TO CLARIFY, IT'S NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:34:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, IT'S NOT.
10:34:04AM I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL BUNCHED IN.
10:34:05AM BECAUSE THE NEXT ONE IS THE 1:30.
10:34:07AM WELL, YOU ARE SWORN REGARDLESS.
10:34:11AM MR. SHELBY REMAINS CALM THAT WE FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURES OR
10:34:19AM TRIED TO.
10:34:20AM >> ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR, DEVELOPMENT AND
10:34:23AM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
10:34:24AM ITEM 62 ON YOUR AGENDA IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON A
10:34:28AM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
10:34:31AM PINEWOOD BF, LLC.
10:34:35AM THE PROPERTY, I'LL GO INTO DETAILS ON THAT, LOCATED JUST A
10:34:38AM QUARTER MILE NORTHWEST OF SOUTH DALE MABRY ENTRANCE TO
10:34:42AM MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
10:34:44AM AND IF COUNCIL WOULD INDULGE ME JUST A MOMENT, I WOULD LIKE
10:34:48AM TO GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY ON HOW THE CITY ACQUIRED THE
10:34:52AM PROPERTY AND ITS INTENDED USE AT THAT TIME, AS WELL AS THE
10:34:56AM PROCESS ON KIND OF HOW WE GOT HERE TODAY.
10:34:59AM I AM AWARE OF SOME CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED WITH THE
10:35:06AM CITY'S ASSOCIATION PROCESS FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
10:35:10AM THE CITY IN THIS POSITION ACTS AS THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER
10:35:14AM AND WE ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS MANY TIMES ON OUR PROPERTIES
10:35:17AM TO THEN BRING AGREEMENTS FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
10:35:22AM AND THE PROCESS WE FOLLOW IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THOROUGH
10:35:27AM EVALUATION OF THE PROPERTIES, DECISION MAKING, BALANCING
10:35:30AM EFFICIENCY WITH THE NEEDS OF PUBLIC INPUT AT APPROPRIATE
10:35:34AM STAGES.
10:35:34AM SO OUR APPROACH INVOLVES THIS CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF THE
10:35:39AM PROPOSALS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO US, GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS
10:35:43AM AND STRUCTURED OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC FEEDBACK, WHICH IS
10:35:47AM WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
10:35:48AM THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER.
10:35:51AM WHILE THERE MIGHT BE DESIRE TO HAVE PUBLIC INPUT AT OTHER
10:35:55AM PHASES, THERE ARE REASONS WHY WE DON'T.
10:35:57AM SOME OF THOSE REASONS ARE THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ISSUES, THE
10:36:03AM CONFIDENTIALITY OF THE INFORMATION.
10:36:05AM IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU'RE SELLING YOUR HOME AND YOU ENTER INTO
10:36:08AM NEGOTIATIONS, THAT'S YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
10:36:12AM THE CITY PUTS FORTH EXPERTS TO GO SIT AT THE TABLE AND TO
10:36:16AM WORK THROUGH THOSE MATTERS.
10:36:18AM THE PRELIMINARY NATURE OF EVALUATIONS, PROPOSALS COME IN.
10:36:21AM THEY COULD BE VERY PRELIMINARY IN NATURE.
10:36:24AM WE MIGHT NOT GET TO WHAT WE'RE BRINGING YOU UNTIL THE 7th
10:36:27AM OR 8th ITERATION OF THAT AND THEN WE BRING IT TO YOU LIKE
10:36:30AM WE ARE TODAY AND WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE ARE TODAY.
10:36:33AM I'M GOING TO WORK THROUGH THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE YOU
10:36:38AM TODAY.
10:36:39AM WE ALWAYS WORK TO BE TRANSPARENT, ENSURE TRANSPARENCY,
10:36:43AM PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEEDBACK.
10:36:45AM WE BELIEVE THAT FORUM IS IN FRONT OF YOU AND THE PUBLIC THIS
10:36:49AM MORNING.
10:36:49AM IN 2022, THE CITY WAS APPROACHED BY THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
10:36:59AM THIS IS THE CITY'S PROPERTY HERE IN YELLOW.
10:37:03AM THE PROPERTY, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IS SHOWN IN BLUE.
10:37:07AM YOU CAN SEE MacDILL OVER TO THE EAST, PINEWOOD TO THE
10:37:11AM NORTH, MARCUM STREET TO THE SOUTH.
10:37:13AM YOU MAY RECALL THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE WAS A REZONING ON
10:37:18AM THE BLUE PIECE THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR A HOTEL
10:37:21AM AND A PARKING LOT AND THE DEVELOPER CAME TO THE CITY AND
10:37:32AM REQUESTED UTILIZATION OF A PORTION OF THE YELLOW PROPERTY,
10:37:35AM THE CITY'S PROPERTY FOR PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH FUTURE
10:37:38AM DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARCEL, NOT FOR THE HOTEL THAT CITY
10:37:42AM COUNCIL APPROVED, BUT FOR AN ADDITIONAL HOTEL THAT THEY
10:37:45AM WOULD BE SEEKING AT A LATER TIME.
10:37:47AM IN CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST, THE CITY GOES BACK AND WE
10:37:51AM LOOKED AT HOW DID WE GET THE YELLOW PIECE OF PROPERTY?
10:37:53AM HOW DID WE BUY IT?
10:37:55AM WHAT WENT ON?
10:37:56AM ACTUALLY IN 2005, THE CITY GOT A DIG GRANT TO PURCHASE THAT
10:38:00AM PROPERTY FROM ENTERPRISE FLORIDA AS PART OF PROTECTION TO
10:38:07AM PROVIDE A BUFFER TO THE BASE.
10:38:09AM IN 2006, ONCE THAT GRANT WAS RECEIVED, WE ACTUALLY PERFORMED
10:38:14AM THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY.
10:38:17AM SINCE 2006, THE PROPERTY HAS SAT THERE WITH NO FUNDED
10:38:21AM IMPROVEMENTS TO ACTIVATE THE PROPERTY, SO TO SPEAK.
10:38:27AM THE PROPERTY IS PART OF THE SOUTH TAMPA GREENWAY AND TRAILS
10:38:32AM MASTER PLAN.
10:38:34AM THE MOST RECENT PIECE OF THAT WE COMPLETED IS BEHIND THE
10:38:37AM WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT.
10:38:39AM AND PURSUANT TO THE GRANT AGREEMENT THAT WE USED TO ACQUIRE
10:38:44AM IT, THERE ARE NO FORMAL RESTRICTIONS, BUT THE INTENT WAS TO
10:38:51AM SERVE THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS PROGRAM AND TO PROVIDE
10:38:58AM ENCROACHMENT PROTECTION AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL BUFFER.
10:39:02AM SINCE THE ACQUISITION, AS I MENTIONED, IT HAS REMAINED
10:39:04AM UNUSED.
10:39:05AM THE CITY HAS NO ALLOCATED BUDGETED FUNDS FOR THE
10:39:09AM IMPROVEMENTS.
10:39:10AM AND RECENTLY, WHEN THE DEVELOPER APPROACHED THE CITY WITH
10:39:14AM THE PROPOSAL, IT PRESENTED A VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE
10:39:17AM THE TRAILHEAD WITHOUT IMPOSING ANY FINANCIAL OBLIGATION ON
10:39:21AM THE CITY.
10:39:22AM THIS PROPOSAL ALLOWS US TO ENHANCE THE PROPERTY WITH MINIMAL
10:39:28AM COST TO THE PUBLIC WHILE ADDING VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:39:31AM IN RELATION TO THIS MATTER, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT
10:39:36AM INSTRUMENTS.
10:39:38AM ONE IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE
10:39:42AM CONSTRUCTION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE, WHO IS
10:39:45AM PAYING, HOW THAT ALL WORKS.
10:39:47AM I HAVE A QUICK SLIDE ON THAT.
10:39:49AM AND WE HAVE A LICENSE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS WHO GETS TO USE
10:39:54AM THE PROPERTY AND MAINTAIN IT ONCE THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE.
10:39:58AM SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ADDRESSES THE CONSTRUCTION OF
10:40:01AM THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS, BOTH THE PARK AND THE PARKING LOT,
10:40:05AM THE COST OF PLANNING, DESIGN, AND CONSTRUCTION FOR BOTH THE
10:40:08AM PARK AND THE PARKING LOT, AND THAT IS TO BE DONE BY THE
10:40:13AM DEVELOPER.
10:40:14AM THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETING THE PARK PRIOR
10:40:18AM TO C.O. OF THE FIRST HOTEL.
10:40:21AM IF THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT NEVER HAPPENS ON THIS
10:40:24AM PROPERTY, WE ARE GOING TO GET THESE IMPROVEMENTS CONSTRUCTED
10:40:29AM AND COMPLETED BY THE DEVELOPER PRIOR TO C.O. OF THE HOTEL.
10:40:33AM AND THAT PARKS IS INVOLVED WITH THE DESIGN, APPROVING THE
10:40:40AM DESIGN, INCLUDING ALL PLANTS AND TREES THAT WILL BE PLACED
10:40:43AM AND THEN MAINTENANCE.
10:40:46AM THE PARK MAINTENANCE.
10:40:47AM THE DEVELOPER FOR THE FIRST YEAR WILL TAKE CARE OF THE
10:40:50AM MAINTENANCE AND ROUTINE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE FOR ALL
10:40:54AM SUBSEQUENT YEARS.
10:40:54AM AND THAT SAME MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DEVELOPER
10:40:57AM IS IN THE LICENSE AGREEMENT AS WELL.
10:41:00AM AND THEN WE HAVE THE MAINTENANCE, EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE
10:41:05AM PARKING LOT PORTION OF THE PARCEL, THE DEVELOPER IS
10:41:08AM RESPONSIBLE FOR.
10:41:09AM LET ME JUST PUT UP -- I SKIPPED OVER THIS.
10:41:14AM QUICKLY, THIS IS THE PD THAT IS APPROVED ON THE BLUE PIECE.
10:41:21AM YOU'LL SEE THE HOTEL ON THE WEST AND PARKING.
10:41:24AM THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY FOR CONSIDERATION
10:41:27AM BUT IS STILL SUBJECT TO ALL REZONING AND COMING BEFORE THIS
10:41:32AM CITY COUNCIL, CONSIDERS A SECOND HOTEL TO BE PLACED, THE
10:41:37AM ACRE FOR THE PARKING AND THE 1.5 ACRES FOR THE PARK.
10:41:42AM THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS ALSO INCLUDE 30 EXCLUSIVE PARKING
10:41:47AM SPACES FOR THE PARK AS WELL AS ON-STREET SPACES FOR THE
10:41:51AM PARK.
10:41:51AM ONCE ALL OF THIS WOULD GET CONSTRUCTED AND IMPROVED, THE
10:41:58AM SECOND PART TO THIS IS THEN A LICENSE AGREEMENT.
10:42:01AM AND THAT WILL BE COMING BACK BEFORE YOU ON THE 19th, BUT
10:42:05AM YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT ONE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER.
10:42:08AM THE LICENSE AGREEMENT SAYS ONCE ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE
10:42:13AM IMPROVED, YOU MAY HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE NOW THE PROPERTY.
10:42:17AM SO INSTEAD OF LEASING IT, WE DO A LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR A
10:42:24AM 20-YEAR PERIOD.
10:42:24AM THE 87 SPACES THAT ARE IN THE PARKING LOT ARE NONEXCLUSIVE
10:42:30AM SPACES UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE SECOND HOTEL WOULD TAKE
10:42:35AM PLACE.
10:42:36AM IF THE SECOND HOTEL NEVER GETS APPROVED, NEVER TAKES PLACE,
10:42:39AM THE PARKING IS THERE, IT'S AVAILABLE AND THERE ARE
10:42:42AM NONEXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO THAT.
10:42:44AM AND THEN THERE IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 30 SPACES FOR THE
10:42:48AM PARK.
10:42:49AM AND THEN THE ONE MATTER, THE STORMWATER.
10:42:53AM THE STORMWATER FROM THE PARK AND THE PARKING LOT ARE GOING
10:42:56AM TO BE ACCOMMODATED ON THE HOTEL'S STORMWATER RETENTION.
10:43:01AM AND I WILL LET MR. GARDNER AND HIS TEAM SPEAK TO THAT WHEN
10:43:06AM WE TURN IT OVER TO THAT.
10:43:08AM THE PROPERTY AS I JUST DISCUSSED IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED
10:43:13AM IN TWO PHASES.
10:43:15AM THAT FIRST ONE -- THE FIRST HOTEL IS IN PERMITTING.
10:43:19AM I DID GO THROUGH THE PERMIT LAST NIGHT JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK
10:43:23AM EVERYTHING.
10:43:23AM IT IS IN PERMITTING.
10:43:24AM AND I DON'T THINK TONY MULKEY -- DID HE COME IN?
10:43:32AM NOT YET.
10:43:33AM TONY MULKEY AS WELL AS REBECCA JOHNS AND MYSELF AND THE REAL
10:43:36AM ESTATE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN THE NEGOTIATION TEAM ON THIS FOR
10:43:39AM THE PAST TWO YEARS WITH THE DEVELOPER TO GET THIS TO THE
10:43:42AM POINT IN FRONT OF YOU THIS MORNING.
10:43:44AM I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. GARDNER NOW TO SPEAK A
10:43:47AM LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY TO THEIR ELEMENTS OF THIS.
10:43:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:43:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FIRST.
10:43:55AM WHY ARE YOU BRINGING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR SOMETHING
10:43:58AM THAT WE HAVEN'T APPROVED -- A REZONING WE HAVEN'T APPROVED?
10:44:02AM WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS HOTEL?
10:44:06AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THERE IS ONE HOTEL ALREADY APPROVED.
10:44:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, BUT WHAT IF WE DON'T APPROVE THE SECOND
10:44:11AM HOTEL.
10:44:12AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
10:44:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GENERALLY WHEN YOU DO THESE THINGS, LIKE
10:44:15AM BRINGING THE SECOND HOTEL, YOU BRING THE DEVELOPMENT
10:44:18AM AGREEMENT AT THAT TIME.
10:44:20AM THAT'S NORMALLY HOW THIS WORKS.
10:44:22AM I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS WITH THIS AND WHY WE'RE
10:44:27AM DOING IT, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER BACKWARDS.
10:44:33AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:44:34AM THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ACTUALLY IS NOT TIED TO THE SECOND
10:44:38AM HOTEL.
10:44:38AM THEY HAVE TO BUILD A PARK PURSUANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT
10:44:41AM AGREEMENT BEFORE THEY GET THE C.O. FOR THE FIRST HOTEL.
10:44:44AM EVEN IF THE SECOND HOTEL NEVER COMES INTO PLAY, WE STILL
10:44:47AM HAVE THE PARK AND THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT THE PARKING LOT.
10:44:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS CONNECTED TO
10:44:53AM THE FIRST HOTEL, NOT THE SECOND HOTEL.
10:44:56AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS CONNECTED TO THE
10:44:59AM PARKING LOT, THE USE OF THE PARKING LOT.
10:45:02AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE USE OF THE CITY'S PROPERTY FOR A PARKING
10:45:06AM LOT.
10:45:06AM THAT'S WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS TIED TO REGARDLESS
10:45:08AM OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT, YES.
10:45:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:45:11AM I JUST FELT THE NEED TO RESPOND TO THE PART ABOUT THE FIRST
10:45:18AM PUBLIC HEARING BEING -- YOU SAID HAVING PUBLIC INPUT AT
10:45:22AM APPROPRIATE TIMES.
10:45:26AM MY CONCERN IS THAT 10:30 A.M. ON A THURSDAY IS NOT
10:45:30AM ACCESSIBLE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC.
10:45:33AM I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'M
10:45:35AM CONCERNED THAT THERE WASN'T AN EVENING MEETING IN THE AREA
10:45:43AM OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT
10:45:45AM IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
10:45:48AM WE'VE GOTTEN NUMEROUS E-MAILS ON THIS, BUT PEOPLE CAN'T COME
10:45:52AM BECAUSE IT'S 10:30 ON A THURSDAY.
10:45:54AM SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO
10:45:56AM RECONSIDER SOMEHOW AND MAKE SURE THERE'S ACTUALLY A PUBLIC
10:45:59AM MEETING IN THE AREA OF WHERE WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS
10:46:04AM GOING FORWARD, BUT THAT IS THE BIG CONCERN FOR ME.
10:46:10AM I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION OF THE CITY IN NEEDING TO
10:46:12AM NEGOTIATE, BUT AFTER A NEGOTIATION, OR AFTER A -- AFTER WE
10:46:17AM THINK WE ARE SET, HAVING THAT MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY IN
10:46:21AM THE EVENING, EVEN IF IT'S BETWEEN THESE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS,
10:46:26AM WHATEVER WORKS, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK
10:46:28AM AT GOING FORWARD SO THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY DOES HAVE THE
10:46:31AM ACCESS OTHER THAN SIMPLY E-MAIL ON A THURSDAY MORNING.
10:46:35AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I APPRECIATE THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT AND
10:46:37AM THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
10:46:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN COUNCIL
10:46:40AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:46:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE IN COUNCIL WORKING WITH YOU AND OTHERS
10:46:49AM HAVE SET MORE GUIDELINES FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, BUT EVEN IF
10:46:54AM THE GUIDELINES DON'T REQUIRE IT, NOT GOING TO THE PUBLIC HAS
10:46:58AM CAUSED US TO GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF E-MAILS, A BUNCH OF CALLS,
10:47:02AM AND THERE'S LOTS OF CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:47:06AM EVEN IF WE DON'T CREATE A FORMAL PROCESS, I WISH THAT WE
10:47:09AM COULD PROACTIVELY THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS LEAK OUT AND WHEN
10:47:15AM SIGNS GO UP, PEOPLE START TALKING ABOUT THEM.
10:47:18AM I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR HAVING A PRIVATE
10:47:21AM CONVERSATION, BUT SOMEHOW, AS WE KNOW, THE PUBLIC IS GOING
10:47:25AM TO FIND OUT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS ENGAGED IN
10:47:28AM SOME WAY.
10:47:28AM SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ANOTHER TIME.
10:47:30AM THE OTHER THING AND I'LL MAKE A FEW COMMENTS AND MAYBE YOU
10:47:36AM CAN COMMENT AT THE END.
10:47:37AM IT SEEMS LIKE WE TREATED THIS -- I REMEMBER THE TERM LIKE AN
10:47:40AM IRREGULAR OR REMAINDER LOT INSTEAD OF LIKE A REGULAR PIECE
10:47:44AM OF PROPERTY.
10:47:46AM ONE OF MY CONCERNS IN THE PAST IS THE CITY HAS SOLD PIECES
10:47:49AM OF PROPERTY WITHOUT PUTTING THEM OUT FOR BID.
10:47:52AM AND THE DEVELOPERS IN THE COMMUNITY SAY, WELL, IF I HAD
10:47:54AM KNOWN, I WOULD HAVE PAID MORE FOR IT.
10:47:56AM I THINK IF IT IS AN IRREGULAR PIECE OR REMAINDER PIECE,
10:47:59AM THERE ARE RULES ON HOW WE CAN GET AROUND THAT.
10:48:01AM BUT I WONDER, WAS THERE A COMPETITIVE BID?
10:48:05AM WAS THERE AN APPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTY AS TO THE VALUE OF IT
10:48:12AM OR EVALUATION IN SOME WAY?
10:48:14AM AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE GRANT, I KNOW WITH THE FEDERAL
10:48:17AM GOVERNMENT, IF THEY GIVE YOU A GRANT, IF YOU CHANGE THE USE
10:48:20AM OF IT, YOU CAN PAY THEM BACK WITH INTEREST OR SOMETHING LIKE
10:48:23AM THAT.
10:48:23AM IN THIS CASE, IT WAS ENTERPRISE FLORIDA WHICH DOESN'T EXIST
10:48:26AM ANYMORE.
10:48:27AM I THINK YOU SAID THERE WERE NO TIES TO IT.
10:48:29AM COULD WE HAVE SOLD THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY?
10:48:32AM COULD WE HAVE HAD A COMPETITIVE PIECE AND SOLD IT OUTRIGHT
10:48:36AM INSTEAD OF THE LICENSE AGREEMENT?
10:48:37AM CONNECTED TO THAT, WE WENT THROUGH, I THINK IT WAS COUNCIL
10:48:43AM MEMBER SUAREZ AND MAYBE MULHERN YEARS AGO WHO REALIZED THAT
10:48:47AM THE PARKS IN THE CITY WERE ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, AND WE
10:48:56AM WENT THROUGH AND CHANGED IT, WORKING WITH YOUR TEAM AND
10:48:59AM OTHERS, CHANGED THEM ALL TO BE A PARK STATUS TO PROTECT THE
10:49:02AM PARKS IN THE FUTURE.
10:49:03AM I WONDER, HAS THIS ONE BEEN INCLUDED IN THAT PROCESS.
10:49:07AM I DON'T REMEMBER IT GOING THROUGH.
10:49:08AM IS IT PROTECTED AT ALL AS PARK SPACE AND WHAT LIMITS DOES
10:49:11AM THAT PUT ON IT?
10:49:12AM IF NOT, WHAT IS THE PLAN TO PROTECT AT LEAST THE REMAINING
10:49:17AM PART OF IT FOR THE FUTURE?
10:49:23AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AS FAR AS THE COMPETITIVE BID RESPONSE, WE
10:49:27AM DID NOT PERFORM A COMPETITIVE BID BECAUSE AT THIS TIME IT
10:49:30AM WAS NOT OUR DESIRE TO PUT THE PIECE OUT FOR OUR P FOR PARK
10:49:35AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:49:36AM WE WERE APPROACHED WHICH MANY TIMES WE ARE WITH AN
10:49:39AM OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN PURCHASED FOR
10:49:44AM IN 2005.
10:49:45AM IT IS IN THE GREENWAYS AND MASTER TRAILS PLAN.
10:49:49AM IT IS NOT IN THE PARKS.
10:49:51AM IT IS NOT A DEDICATED PARK AS OF TODAY BECAUSE IT HAS NOT
10:49:55AM BEEN IMPROVED AS A PARK USE AS OF TO DATE.
10:50:00AM I CAN TALK TO THE ENTERPRISE FLORIDA.
10:50:04AM WE DID RESEARCH BACK ON THE PURCHASE, THE GRANT AWARD.
10:50:09AM I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD SELL IT OUTRIGHT.
10:50:13AM IT IS PARTIALLY IN THE CLEAR ZONE AND THERE'S NO VERTICAL
10:50:17AM DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD TAKE PLACE HERE.
10:50:19AM THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE IN '05 WE ORIGINALLY PURCHASED IT TO
10:50:24AM BE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL BUFFER AND TO BE PART OF THE TRAIL
10:50:30AM PROGRAM AND SERVE AS A TRAILHEAD WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING.
10:50:35AM I WISH TONY WERE HERE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT --
10:50:41AM >> HE'S ONLINE NOW.
10:50:42AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: -- TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GETTING THOSE
10:50:45AM THINGS TEED UP.
10:50:46AM I DID MENTION PROGRESSIVELY WE'VE HAD OTHER OPPORTUNITIES
10:50:50AM WHERE THE TRAIL, GREENWAYS AND MASTER TRAIL IS NOW COMING
10:50:53AM DOWN FROM GANDY, ALONG THAT BOAT RAMP AND THROUGH WESTSHORE
10:50:57AM MARINA AND THEN IT DOES ACTUALLY COME DOWN.
10:50:59AM AND THIS WAS PART OF THAT CONNECTION FROM THE PICNIC ISLAND
10:51:02AM TO THE GADSDEN PARK AREA.
10:51:06AM I THINK IN RELATIONSHIP TO FUTURE AND ONCE THIS PARK IS -- I
10:51:13AM MEAN, YES, WE COULD DEDICATE THIS.
10:51:15AM THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AND ENSURE ITS PROTECTION.
10:51:19AM ALTHOUGH I DO BELIEVE GIVEN THE LOCATION, IT CANNOT BE
10:51:24AM VERTICALLY DEVELOPED.
10:51:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:51:28AM MR. MULKEY AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:51:34AM >>TONY MULKEY: TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
10:51:37AM I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING IN CHAMBERS.
10:51:40AM YOUR EFFICIENCY IS IMPRESSIVE THIS MORNING.
10:51:44AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS HERE.
10:51:47AM I THINK WE DID HAVE A VERY CONSIDERED PROCESS INTERNALLY TO
10:51:52AM TRY AND GET A GOOD VALUE FOR THE CITY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE
10:51:56AM LIMITATIONS ON THE SITE, BEING IN THE CLEAR ZONE, WE ARE
10:51:59AM VERY LIMITED AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO ON THE SITE, BUT IT DOES
10:52:02AM FALL WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA GREENWAYS PLAN AS ADMINISTRATOR
10:52:05AM FEELEY REFERENCED.
10:52:07AM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFICS ON THIS.
10:52:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:52:12AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:52:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ACTUALLY IN NEW BUSINESS TODAY, COUNCIL
10:52:18AM MEMBER CARLSON, I'M PLANNING ON ASKING STAFF TO FIX SOME OF
10:52:21AM THE SITUATIONS, LOOK FOR AN ORDINANCE, TIGHTEN UP SOME OF
10:52:25AM THE RULES ON HOW WE VACATE OR TRANSFER CONTROL OF CITY-OWNED
10:52:29AM PROPERTIES.
10:52:30AM LOOK FOR THAT NEW BUSINESS TODAY, ACTUALLY.
10:52:34AM I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA.
10:52:40AM KIND OF CREATIVE AND KIND OF INTERESTING.
10:52:42AM ON THE STATUS OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT WILL REMAIN CITY
10:52:53AM PROPERTY, AND THEY HAVE A 20-YEAR USE OF THE PROPERTY.
10:52:57AM SO AT 20 YEARS, WHAT HAPPENS?
10:53:01AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AT THE END OF THE 20 YEARS, THE LICENSE
10:53:03AM AGREEMENT, YES, I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR.
10:53:05AM THE CITY IS NOT CONVEYING OUR PROPERTY.
10:53:07AM WE ARE RETAINING OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROPERTY, ALL OF IT, THE
10:53:11AM IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING MADE.
10:53:14AM THE PARK IS OURS AS WELL AS THE PARKING LOT AND THOSE
10:53:16AM IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
10:53:18AM THEY ARE THEN GETTING THAT LICENSE AGREEMENT TO BE ABLE TO
10:53:22AM USE THOSE SPACES, NON-EXCLUSIVELY OR EXCLUSIVELY DEPENDING
10:53:28AM ON WHAT HAPPENS DOWN THE ROAD, FOR 20 YEARS.
10:53:32AM AT THE END OF THE 20 YEARS, THERE ARE TWO TERMS OPPORTUNITY
10:53:35AM FOR RENEWAL.
10:53:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO IT WOULDN'T AUTOMATICALLY COME BACK TO
10:53:41AM THE CITY IN 20 YEARS.
10:53:42AM IN PERPETUITY FOR WHATEVER THE RENEWAL PERIOD IS, IN
10:53:45AM EXCHANGE FOR THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, THEY ARE GOING TO GET
10:53:47AM THE USE OF THIS PROPERTY TAX-FREE, BASICALLY, CORRECT?
10:53:51AM PROPERTY TAX FREE.
10:53:53AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
10:53:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CITY.
10:53:57AM THAT'S A MIGHTY EXPENSIVE BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY TAX FREE FOR
10:54:03AM HOW MANY RENEWALS WOULD IT BE?
10:54:05AM >> LET ME CLARIFY.
10:54:06AM IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TAX-FREE.
10:54:08AM IT'S RENT-FREE.
10:54:10AM WHETHER IT'S TAXED OR NOT DEPENDS ON WHETHER IT FITS INTO AN
10:54:13AM EXCEPTION FOR GOVERNMENTAL USE UNDER THE STATE STATUTE.
10:54:16AM SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT IS TAX-FREE RIGHT NOW, BUT --
10:54:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ANSWERED BEFORE
10:54:24AM I MAKE THE DECISION, IF WE'RE GIVING AWAY -- IF IT'S
10:54:27AM TAX-FREE VERSUS NOT TAX-FREE.
10:54:29AM IF THERE'S INCOME BEING PROVIDED, APPROPRIATION COMPENSATION
10:54:33AM FOR THE CITY.
10:54:35AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK THE OTHER ELEMENT TO THIS AND
10:54:37AM REBECCA AND I HAVE SPOKEN, THERE IS A PAYMENT BEING MADE
10:54:43AM CLEARLY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARKLAND.
10:54:46AM SO THAT ALSO IS A PAYMENT THAT IS BEING RECEIVED.
10:54:53AM A LOT OF THE CASES AND OTHER CASES THROUGH OTHER LEASES WE
10:54:56AM HAVE ON OTHER DIFFERENT MATTERS, THERE MIGHT BE A RENT
10:55:00AM PAYMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
10:55:02AM BUT IN THIS CASE, THAT PAYMENT IS BEING MADE UP FRONT IN THE
10:55:07AM FORM OF CREATING THE PARK.
10:55:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW THE DOLLAR FIGURE AND
10:55:15AM AMORTIZED OVER THE LIFE OF THE LEASE, WHAT THAT ENDS UP
10:55:18AM BEING.
10:55:18AM COULD BE A GREAT DEAL OR BEST BARGAIN FOR THE DEVELOPER
10:55:21AM EVER.
10:55:21AM I DON'T KNOW WHICH.
10:55:23AM I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE INFORMATION TO DETERMINE WHICH IS
10:55:25AM WHICH YET.
10:55:26AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AND THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE THAT THEY ARE
10:55:29AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROPERTY.
10:55:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DOLLAR FIGURE TO
10:55:33AM SEE WHAT THAT MEANS TO THE CITY.
10:55:35AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: MR. GARDNER MAY HAVE SOME OF THAT.
10:55:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO LITTLE THINGS.
10:55:42AM MAINTENANCE OF THE PARK OR LAND, WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
10:55:44AM THE MAINTENANCE AND WHAT TYPE OF INSURANCE IS GOING TO BE
10:55:46AM NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY IS HELD --
10:55:51AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
10:55:53AM MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY.
10:55:59AM BOTH SETS OF IMPROVEMENTS.
10:56:02AM ON THE INSURANCE, I NEED TO CHECK WITH REBECCA AND RON ON
10:56:05AM WHAT THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENT IS.
10:56:08AM I KNOW IT'S IN THE AGREEMENT.
10:56:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STATED EARLIER, PARKLANDS, CITY OF TAMPA
10:56:12AM CANNOT SELL WHEN SOMETHING IS DEDICATED PARKLAND AT ALL.
10:56:15AM IT HAS TO BE DONE BY REFERENDUM AND THE PUBLIC HAS TO VOTE
10:56:18AM ON IT AND NOT EVEN THE GOVERNMENT.
10:56:20AM THAT'S WHAT WE DID -- RIGHT, IT IS NOT.
10:56:23AM PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS STARTED BACK IN ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION,
10:56:27AM BUT WE FINISHED IT UP, ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO.
10:56:32AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE CAN DEDICATE THIS ONCE IT'S DONE.
10:56:37AM I THINK UNDER THE PURCHASE AND THE GRANT AGREEMENT, IT'S
10:56:41AM CLEAR WHAT THE PROPOSED PURPOSE WAS FOR AND THERE WOULD NOT
10:56:45AM BE OTHER DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
10:56:48AM WE COULD MAKE A MODIFICATION TO THAT.
10:56:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:51AM MR. GARDNER.
10:56:55AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, HERE ON BEHALF OF
10:57:00AM PINEWOOD BF, LLC AND IN PARTICULAR, BRIAN FUNK.
10:57:05AM RIGHT OFF THE BACK, DISPEL ANY NOTION OR RUMOR THIS WAS SOME
10:57:10AM SORT OF CLANDESTINE NEGOTIATION, NOT THAT AT ALL.
10:57:14AM THANK ABBYE AND REBECCA BEING PATIENT WITH US THROUGH THE
10:57:17AM PROCESS.
10:57:17AM IT IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.
10:57:18AM I THINK A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY.
10:57:20AM I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEAL TERMS, THE DEAL TERMS SKEW
10:57:24AM LARGELY IN FAVOR OF THE CITY.
10:57:26AM TO ANSWER TWO QUESTIONS, ONE FROM YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
10:57:30AM MIRANDA, ON INSURANCE.
10:57:31AM I JUST TOOK A LOOK TO CONFIRM THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE
10:57:35AM FOR PROVIDING INSURANCE.
10:57:37AM THERE'S ACTUALLY A SCHEDULE.
10:57:38AM SCHEDULE E ON THE BACK OF THE AGREEMENT THAT HAS ALL THE
10:57:41AM INSURANCE THAT HAS TO BE PROVIDED.
10:57:43AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, ON THE TAX ISSUE, JUST TO BE
10:57:47AM CLEAR, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY VERTICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE
10:57:51AM DEVELOPER WILL HAVE ON THE CITY LEASE PROPERTY.
10:57:53AM WHAT THEY ARE GETTING IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS IS JUST SOME
10:57:56AM ADDITIONAL PARKING SHOULD THE SECOND HOTEL BE BUILT.
10:58:00AM JUST TO GO BACK AND REITERATE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS, I
10:58:05AM THINK THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT
10:58:07AM HAPPENS WITH THE SECOND HOTEL, THE PROVISION OF THE FIRST
10:58:12AM HOTEL IS THE TRIGGER AND THEIR ABILITY TO GET THEIR C.O. IS
10:58:17AM CONTINGENT UPON THEM PROVIDING THE IMPROVEMENTS, FULLY PAID
10:58:20AM FOR BY THEM, WHICH THE ESTIMATES OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ALONE
10:58:24AM IS IN EXCESS OF $400,000 AND THEN ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
10:58:27AM I'M NOT SURE IF MR. FUNK HAS NUMBERS ON THE MAINTENANCE, BUT
10:58:31AM PERHAPS HE DOES AND WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
10:58:34AM WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THE INSURANCE QUESTION AND SECOND ON THE
10:58:36AM TAXATION SITUATION.
10:58:38AM I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH TO BE TAXED WITH A SURFACE
10:58:41AM PARKING LOT THAT WILL BE PROVIDED AND SHARED BETWEEN THE
10:58:44AM CITY AND THE DEVELOPER.
10:58:45AM BUT JUST WANTED TO STRESS THERE IS NO VERTICAL IMPROVEMENT
10:58:48AM ALLOWED OR PROPOSED FOR AT ALL ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE
10:58:52AM LEASED FROM THE CITY.
10:58:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO -- I MEAN, IT IS
10:58:56AM THE COMBINATION OF THE SURFACE PARKING LOT AND THE PROPOSED
10:58:59AM SECOND HOTEL, YOU COULDN'T DO THAT THE SECOND HOTEL DOES
10:59:03AM HAVE VALUE THAT COULD NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL
10:59:07AM PARKING.
10:59:08AM THERE IS VALUE TO THE PARCELS OF THE PROPERTY.
10:59:12AM >> MOST DEFINITELY, YES.
10:59:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I JUST WANT TO SEE THE BALANCE.
10:59:16AM >> NO, I GET IT.
10:59:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OVER THE POTENTIAL EXPANDED LEASE PERIOD
10:59:20AM OF THE FIRST TERM AND THEN PROPOSED EXTENSIONS, WHAT THE
10:59:26AM CITY GETS FOR IT, AMORTIZED OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME VERSUS
10:59:29AM WHAT WE LOSE, POTENTIAL REVENUE, IF WE'RE ABLE TO PARLAY
10:59:34AM THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
10:59:35AM >> I THINK IN FULL CANDOR, WHAT THE CITY GETS, IT'S A
10:59:40AM TRAILHEAD CONNECTION.
10:59:41AM THEY GET A PARK THAT THERE WAS NO FUNDING FOR, NOT EVEN
10:59:45AM CONTEMPLATED.
10:59:46AM IT'S ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND ABBYE HAS A BRIEF
10:59:49AM PRESENTATION THAT WILL SHOW YOU.
10:59:50AM IT'S UNDEVELOPABLE.
10:59:52AM SO AS FAR AS VALUE THAT IT MAY HAVE, IT'S NEGLIGIBLE.
10:59:55AM SO THAT'S WHAT THE CITY GETS, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.
10:59:59AM SELFISHLY ON THE DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, WHAT THEY GET IS THIS
11:00:04AM PARKING.
11:00:05AM WE COULD POTENTIALLY COME BACK TO YOU WITH A PD SHOULD THEY
11:00:10AM GO FORWARD WITH THE SECOND HOTEL, ASKING FOR A PARKING
11:00:13AM WAIVER WHERE THAT WOULD NOT NECESSITATE THIS AREA OF
11:00:18AM PARKING.
11:00:18AM THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
11:00:19AM I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR THE CITY AND BETTER FOR THE
11:00:22AM DEVELOPER TO PROVIDE THAT PARKING AND THAT'S WHAT THEY GET
11:00:26AM IS THAT AREA OF PARKING FOR THAT SECOND HOTEL SHOULD IT BE
11:00:29AM DEVELOPED.
11:00:30AM AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S DEVELOPED OR NOT, THE CITY
11:00:34AM IS GOING TO GET THIS PARK AND IT WILL BE MAINTAINED FOR A
11:00:36AM MINIMUM OF 20 YEARS.
11:00:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BREAKDOWN
11:00:41AM OF COST VERSUS BENEFIT ON BOTH SIDES SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT
11:00:44AM KIND OF REAL DEAL WE'RE GETTING.
11:00:46AM >> THE ONLY OTHER THING I REALLY WANTED TO DISTINGUISH IS WE
11:00:50AM DID NEGOTIATE THESE TERMS WITH THE CITY.
11:00:54AM IT WAS NOTICED.
11:00:55AM SIGNS WERE POSTED, ALL THAT WAS DONE COMPLETELY PROPERLY,
11:00:59AM BUT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY AS IT RELATES TO THE PARK DESIGN,
11:01:04AM WE HAVE GONE VERY FAR AWAY WITH THAT.
11:01:06AM WE ACTUALLY MET WITH STEPHANIE AND CARROLL ANN, TALKED TO
11:01:10AM STEPHANIE BEFORE THIS.
11:01:12AM SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE GENERALLY HAPPY WITH THE DESIGN.
11:01:14AM BUT THAT DESIGN IS ONLY IN DRAFT FORM IS STILL SUBJECT TO
11:01:17AM APPROVAL ULTIMATELY BY PARKS.
11:01:20AM SO WE'RE COMING TO YOU TODAY WITH SPECIFIC TERMS OF A
11:01:24AM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT AS FAR AS THE PARK, WHICH IS THE
11:01:27AM BIG BENEFIT TO THE CITY, THAT STILL IS NOT DONE.
11:01:30AM IT'S RIDING ALONGSIDE THIS, BUT THAT'S STILL OUT THERE TO BE
11:01:33AM APPROVED.
11:01:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:36AM >> WITH THAT I KNOW THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION, BOTH WITH
11:01:39AM RESPECT TO THE UNIQUE PROPERTY AND THEN ALSO OUR CLIENT,
11:01:44AM FUNK, IS UNIQUE.
11:01:45AM NOT ONLY A DEVELOPER BUT A LOVER OF PARKS IN THE CITY.
11:01:48AM WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THE SWAMP PARK ADJACENT TO HYDE
11:01:52AM PARK VILLAGE.
11:01:54AM HAS PLANS TO BE INVOLVED IN OTHERS.
11:01:56AM SO THAT WAS REALLY THE GENESIS OF HOW THIS CAME TO BE AND
11:02:00AM HOW WE ARE HERE TODAY.
11:02:02AM SO WITH THAT, JUST A COUPLE MORE CONTEXT SLIDES.
11:02:06AM ABBYE DID A GREAT JOB OF COVERING A LOT OF THOSE.
11:02:10AM ADDIE CLARK HAS A FEW SHE WILL RUN THROUGH TO PROVIDE A
11:02:14AM LITTLE MORE CONTEXT, SPECIFICALLY ON THE UNDEVELOPABLE
11:02:17AM NATURE OF THIS PROPERTY.
11:02:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:22AM >> ADDIE CLARK, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
11:02:25AM IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE -- THANK YOU.
11:02:28AM WE WILL RUN THROUGH THESE.
11:02:30AM LIKE I SAID, ABBYE WENT OVER THE LOCATION OF THIS AND
11:02:34AM EXISTING CONDITIONS.
11:02:36AM PHOTOS.
11:02:37AM A LITTLE BIT OVERGROWN, LITTLE BIT SOMEWHAT UNSAFE.
11:02:39AM SO THE GOAL HERE IS TO CREATE AN OVERGROWN, LITTLE BIT
11:02:44AM UNSAFE AREA OF THE CITY INTO A BEAUTIFUL PARK THAT EVERYONE
11:02:47AM CAN ENJOY.
11:02:49AM HERE, YOU CAN SEE 2.5 ACRES OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY, PROPOSED
11:02:55AM TO BE ABOUT 1.5 ACRES OF BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY PARK AND THEN
11:02:58AM PARKING.
11:02:59AM HERE YOU CAN SEE WE'RE PROPOSING SHADY TREES, BENCHES,
11:03:03AM MEANDERING WALKING PATHS AND PUBLIC PARKING FOR EVERYONE TO
11:03:06AM ENJOY.
11:03:07AM WE BELIEVE THIS IS A GREAT AREA FOR SITTING IN THE SHADE,
11:03:10AM READING A BOOK BUT ALSO A NICE AREA TO KICK A SOCCER BALL
11:03:14AM AROUND OR KIDS TO PLAY TAG AND AREA IN THE PURPLE WOULD BE
11:03:17AM PARKING FOR DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST AS DISCUSSED.
11:03:20AM OF COURSE, STORMWATER RETENTION WILL ALL BE LOCATED TO THE
11:03:23AM WEST IN VAULTS.
11:03:25AM AS WE SAW LAST NIGHT, THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN THE
11:03:28AM CITY.
11:03:29AM GOING TO DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS, ABBYE HIT ON THIS HOW
11:03:33AM THIS WAS A CITY LOT ACQUIRED THROUGH A FEDERAL GRANT, BUT
11:03:37AM THEN THE PARCEL THAT ACTUALLY CANNOT BE DEVELOPED AT ALL
11:03:40AM WITH ANY VERTICAL STRUCTURE, DUE TO ITS LOCATION IN THE
11:03:44AM MacDILL AIR FORCE FLIGHT PATH CLEAR ZONE IN RED AND THEN
11:03:48AM YOU CAN SEE THIS RED KIND OF THUMBTACK WHERE THE PARKS
11:03:52AM PROPERTY IS.
11:03:52AM THIS IS AN OBSTRUCTION-FREE SURFACE AREA FOR THE PLANES AND
11:03:56AM FOR THAT FLIGHT PATH.
11:03:58AM SO THIS CLEAR ZONE PROHIBITS THE REASONABLE ECONOMIC USE OF
11:04:02AM THE LAND, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED IG, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
11:04:07AM SINCE STRUCTURES CANNOT BE BUILT FOR THE SAFETY OF THOSE IN
11:04:10AM THE PLANE AND THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE PLANE.
11:04:13AM OF COURSE, WE BELIEVE THIS IS AN OVERALL PUBLIC BENEFIT.
11:04:17AM BRIAN FUNK, WHO I WILL INTRODUCE IN A MOMENT, WILL BE
11:04:20AM PROVIDING THE PLANNING, DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT, AND
11:04:23AM CONSTRUCTION OF ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS, UPWARDS OF $400,000.
11:04:27AM IT'S NOT A SALE OF THE LAND.
11:04:29AM JUST A LEASE ONLY.
11:04:31AM AND THEN THE PARK WILL BE THE ENTRY TO THIS AREA.
11:04:36AM IT IS HIS PRIORITY TO KEEP IT CLEAN, SAFE AND WELL
11:04:40AM MAINTAINED AT ALL TIMES.
11:04:41AM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO PASS TO BRIAN FUNK, WHO IS THE
11:04:44AM DEVELOPER OF THIS PROJECT, TO TALK ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE WITH
11:04:48AM DEVELOPING BEAUTIFUL PARKS IN THE CITY AND THE VISION FOR
11:04:50AM THIS SITE IN PARTICULAR.
11:04:51AM THANK YOU.
11:04:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:04:59AM BRIAN FUNK.
11:05:01AM PINEWOOD BF, LLC.
11:05:04AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:05:05AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS
11:05:07AM PROJECT.
11:05:08AM I'M BRIAN FUNK, I'M THE DEVELOPER OF THE HOTEL AND THE
11:05:11AM ADJACENT PARCEL TO THE WEST AND THE ONE ENTERING INTO THE
11:05:14AM LEASE AND DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, PROPOSED LEASE AND DEVELOPER
11:05:17AM AGREEMENT FOR THE NEW CITY PARK AND PARKING.
11:05:20AM HOWEVER I'M NOT ONLY HERE AS DEVELOPER BUT ALSO AS FOURTH
11:05:23AM GENERATION CITIZEN OF TAMPA AND CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND
11:05:25AM VOLUNTEER DONOR WITH YEARS OF EXPERIENCING CREATING
11:05:28AM FUNCTIONAL TRAILS AND GREENSPACE IN FLORIDA AND COLORADO.
11:05:31AM THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SWANN AVENUE AS WELL AS THE SWANN
11:05:38AM POND IMPROVEMENTS WERE LOCAL VOLUNTEER EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS
11:05:41AM THAT I HAVE LED.
11:05:42AM SPEAKING AS A DEVELOPER, THIS PARK PRESENTS A SAFE AND
11:05:44AM ATTRACTIVE APPROACH TO NEW HAMPTON INN SLIGHTLY DOWN
11:05:49AM PINEWOOD STREET.
11:05:51AM ADDITIONAL PROPOSED PARKING CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A
11:05:53AM POTENTIAL SECOND HOTEL.
11:05:54AM HOTELS MAINLY SERVE MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE AS WELL AS
11:05:58AM CERTAIN DEMAND FROM LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:06:00AM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THAN CORRECTLY POINTED OUT AT THE
11:06:03AM REZONING HEARING IN 2022, HAVING ADDITIONAL ROOMS WOULD
11:06:06AM REDUCE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA AND ON BASE AS WELL AS PROVIDE
11:06:09AM THE BASE WITH MUCH NEEDED MEETING ROOM SPACE.
11:06:12AM SPEAKING AS A CITIZEN OF TAMPA AND A PARK VOLUNTEER, THE
11:06:15AM PARK IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BEAUTIFY AND ACTIVATE THE
11:06:18AM LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PROPOSED PARK WILL ALSO BE A NODE
11:06:22AM ALONG THE URBAN GREENWAY AND PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY TO OTHER
11:06:26AM PARKS IN THE CITY.
11:06:26AM THE TYPES OF NODES AND CONNECTIVITY HAVE BEEN LACKING IN THE
11:06:29AM CITY FOR DECADES AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTIVATE THE
11:06:31AM ENTIRE CITY AND NOT JUST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:06:34AM LAST FRIDAY I MET WITH THE LEADERS OF THAN AND DISCUSSED THE
11:06:37AM PARK AND ADDITIONAL PARKING.
11:06:38AM MANY GOOD POINTS MADE BY MS. POYNOR AND MRS. BENNETT AND
11:06:42AM INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN SUBJECT TO APPROVAL FROM THE
11:06:45AM CITY.
11:06:45AM I'VE SHARED THAT WITH THEM.
11:06:47AM I JUST GOT THAT BACK FROM MY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, A SIGN OF
11:06:50AM GOOD FAITH, AND WE REVISED SOME ITEMS, PRESENTED THAT TO
11:06:55AM THEM EARLIER.
11:06:56AM SUBJECT TO APPROVAL FROM THE CITY, SPECIFICALLY WE ADDED TEN
11:06:59AM MORE SHADE TREES, MOSTLY LIVE OAKS AND ARE GOING TO PRICE
11:07:01AM OUT DIFFERENT -- PRICE OUT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ASPHALT
11:07:05AM INSTEAD OF CONCRETE PER THEIR SUGGESTION.
11:07:09AM THE LEASE AND DEVELOPER AGREEMENT AS RELATES TO THE
11:07:11AM ADDITIONAL PARKING PROVIDE MUCH-NEEDED PARK SPACE AND
11:07:15AM CONNECTIVITY TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND GIVE THE CITY A MEANS
11:07:19AM TO PAY FOR IT WITHOUT COMING OUT OF POCKET VIA LONG-TERM
11:07:23AM PARKING LEASE.
11:07:24AM POTENTIAL FOR SECOND HOTEL TO HOUSE SERVICE MEMBERS AND
11:07:26AM THEIR LOVED ONES IS AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT TO BE ENJOYED BY
11:07:29AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:07:30AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:07:31AM I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS.
11:07:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:07:33AM IF NOT, I'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IF THAT CONCLUDES THE
11:07:37AM PRESENTATION.
11:07:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST ONE QUESTION.
11:07:39AM DO YOU HAVE THE DESIGN THAT SHOWS THE PARKING LOT AND THE
11:07:42AM IMPROVEMENTS OF THE PARK TOGETHER?
11:07:44AM >> YES, MA'AM, WE DO.
11:07:45AM THIS SHOWS THE CITY OWNED PARCEL AND SHADED LIGHT BLUE AREA
11:07:58AM IS THE PARKING WE NEED.
11:07:59AM GREEN WILL BE THE PARK SPACE.
11:08:01AM I THINK WHAT IS A LITTLE UNDERREPRESENTED HERE, THE SHADED
11:08:04AM RED SHOWS THE PARKING AREAS, DEDICATED PARKING SPOTS FOR THE
11:08:08AM PARK.
11:08:09AM HOWEVER, THEY WOULD STILL NEED INGRESS AND EGRESS TO ACCESS
11:08:13AM THAT.
11:08:13AM A PORTION OF THAT IS REALLY STILL, AND THEN THE BALANCE
11:08:18AM WOULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE SECOND HOTEL SO THAT WE MIGHT
11:08:21AM SURFACE PARK AUTOMOBILES FOR US.
11:08:23AM WE COULD REQUEST A WAIVER.
11:08:24AM WE DON'T WANT TO BECAUSE IT COMES DOWN TO GUEST
11:08:27AM SATISFACTION.
11:08:28AM AS WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY, SO MUCH RAIN, SOMEBODY GETTING OFF A
11:08:32AM PLANE, LATE, LOOKING FOR A PARKING SPOT AND RAINING, TRYING
11:08:39AM TO CHECK INTO A HOTEL.
11:08:42AM IT CLEANS UP THIS AREA AND IT'S NOT A VERY NICE THING TO
11:08:46AM LOOK AT.
11:08:47AM WANT TO BEAUTIFY AND ACTIVATE IT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMING
11:08:50AM FROM.
11:08:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW DOES IT INCORPORATE INTO THE LOOK OF
11:08:56AM THE HOTEL?
11:08:57AM I LOVE THE IDEA.
11:08:59AM I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE COMMUNITY WILL KNOW THAT IT'S
11:09:01AM THEIR PARK AND DOESN'T BELONG TO THE HOTEL.
11:09:04AM >> YES.
11:09:04AM THERE WILL BE CITY OF TAMPA SIGNAGE, INCLUDING SIGNAGE FOR
11:09:07AM THE PARKING THAT THOSE WILL BE DEDICATED -- PINK SPOTS,
11:09:11AM THOSE ARE DEDICATED CITY OF TAMPA PARK SPOTS.
11:09:14AM THERE IS A WALKWAY TO ACTIVATE IT AS WELL.
11:09:19AM LIKE WAS MENTIONED, THIS IS ON THE URBAN GREENWAY, SO THAT
11:09:22AM WILL BE PART OF THE NODE.
11:09:23AM I THINK ANOTHER TERMINAL SPOT BY DALE MABRY COMING FROM
11:09:26AM GADSDEN PARK.
11:09:27AM THANK YOU.
11:09:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN HURTAK.
11:09:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: BRIAN, TRUETT MENTIONED BRIEFLY YOUR
11:09:36AM INVOLVEMENT WITH SWANN POND.
11:09:38AM AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, 10, 15 YEARS AGO, I WAS ON THE BOARD OF
11:09:41AM HISTORIC HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WHICH IS ONE OF
11:09:43AM THREE OR FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT WORKED ON THAT.
11:09:46AM COULD YOU TAKE 30 SECONDS TO EXPLAIN YOUR CREDENTIALS IN
11:09:50AM REGARD TO THAT PARK, WHAT YOU DID, WHAT YOUR FAMILY DID AND
11:09:55AM THE SITUATION THAT WAS FACED THERE?
11:09:58AM JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO PARKS.
11:10:01AM >> THAT WAS A SORT OF SELF-STARTER DEAL.
11:10:04AM IT STARTED WITH A RESCUE DOG I GOT, BUSTER, AUSTRALIAN
11:10:07AM SHEPHERD.
11:10:08AM LOT OF ENERGY.
11:10:09AM NEEDED TO BE WALKED LIKE A LOT.
11:10:11AM EVERY TIME WE LEFT AND LIVED SORT OF NEAR THE VILLAGE, 99
11:10:17AM OUT OF 100 TIMES STOP AT SWANN.
11:10:21AM INHOSPITABLE.
11:10:22AM THE PATHWAY, THE SIDEWALK WAS I THINK ONLY FOUR FOOT WIDE.
11:10:27AM AT THE UNDERPASS IT WAS JUST DIRT.
11:10:29AM REALLY WASN'T ANY SIDEWALK AT ALL TO SPEAK OF.
11:10:32AM EVERY TIME WE GO IN THE SAME DIRECTION --
11:10:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: IN CASE ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW, IT WAS THE
11:10:37AM DRAINAGE POND --
11:10:38AM >> STILL FUNCTIONING STORMWATER BODY FOR THE EXPRESSWAY.
11:10:41AM A LOT OF CONDITIONS AND A LOT OF LIMITATIONS.
11:10:45AM I APPRECIATE PEOPLE SAY IT IS A BEAUTIFICATION DEAL.
11:10:48AM FORM FOLLOWS THE FUNCTION AND IT REALLY WAS A WAY TO
11:10:53AM INCREASE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY BY MAKING IT SAFER, MORE
11:10:56AM ATTRACTIVE FOR PEOPLE IN THE AREA AND ENDED UP LOOKING
11:10:58AM REALLY NICE.
11:10:59AM WORKING CURRENTLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WITH THE CITY ON
11:11:02AM THE BALL FIELD EXPANSION BY THE SOFTBALL FIELD.
11:11:07AM SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT MANY YEARS AGO.
11:11:09AM WE'LL REVIVE THAT AS WELL.
11:11:10AM MY FAMILY ALSO DID THE PARK.
11:11:12AM MAIN OFFICE BANK OF TAMPA BUILDING ON BAYSHORE AND SWANN AND
11:11:16AM WE DEVELOPED THAT PARK IN THE '80s.
11:11:20AM COINCIDENTALLY WITH DAVID CONNER WHEN HE WAS A MUCH YOUNGER
11:11:24AM GUY.
11:11:25AM WORKING ON A PROJECT IN HIGH COUNTRY IN COLORADO.
11:11:29AM DEDICATE A LOT OF PARK SPACE AND TRAILS TO INTERCONNECT THE
11:11:32AM PIKE NATIONAL FOREST WITH THE TOWN OF OMA.
11:11:36AM COULD GO ON AND ON.
11:11:39AM THIS ONE HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE I WOULD LOVE
11:11:42AM TO SEE A PARK THERE, BUT ALSO A DEVELOPER, TOO, SO I HAVE TO
11:11:46AM PUT THAT HAT ON.
11:11:47AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:11:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MULKEY.
11:11:52AM I THINK HE'S PROBABLY STILL ON.
11:11:56AM MR. MULKEY, IS THERE A WAY THAT -- BECAUSE THEY ARE TALKING
11:12:00AM ABOUT TRAILHEADS IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
11:12:03AM I'M SURE WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN MAP OF THIS.
11:12:07AM IF THIS WERE TO GO TO SECOND READING OR SECOND HEARING,
11:12:10AM SORRY, IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE A MAP THAT
11:12:14AM SHOWS WHAT THE CONNECTIVITY WOULD BE?
11:12:18AM >>TONY MULKEY: TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION AGAIN.
11:12:21AM YES, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF PROPERTIES THAT WE COULD KIND OF
11:12:25AM SPELL OUT WHERE THOSE CONNECTIONS ARE AND KIND OF THE TARGET
11:12:31AM OF THE EXPANSION TO MAKE THE NETWORK HAPPEN.
11:12:34AM YES, WE COULD CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT.
11:12:38AM EVERYONE PROBABLY KNOWS, SOUTH TAMPA IS IN NEED OF
11:12:42AM ADDITIONAL PARK SPACE AND CONNECTIVITY TO PROVIDE THE
11:12:46AM RECREATION OPTIONS AND WE FEEL IT IS A VERY CRITICAL PIECE
11:12:49AM OF THAT.
11:12:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE KEEP HEARING THE WORD CONNECTIVITY AND
11:12:55AM CONNECTING TRAILHEADS.
11:12:56AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE TRAILHEADS.
11:12:58AM WHAT IS THE PLAN?
11:12:59AM WHAT IS AVAILABLE?
11:13:00AM I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO SEE THAT AS WELL.
11:13:03AM THANK YOU.
11:13:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:04AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:13:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THERE AT SWANN.
11:13:12AM APPRECIATE THAT.
11:13:14AM IT IS BEAUTIFUL.
11:13:16AM I HOPE THERE IS A DOG PARK INVOLVED, WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY
11:13:21AM TRYING TO USE AS A DOG PARK.
11:13:22AM BACK TO THIS PROJECT.
11:13:25AM BACK UP ON YOUR MAP OF THE PARKING LOT.
11:13:28AM CAN YOU THROW THAT BACK UP THERE?
11:13:29AM HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY THOUGHT OF CREATIVE?
11:13:38AM IT DOES SEEM KIND OF WEIRD, STEPPING BACK FROM A VERY
11:13:42AM INDUSTRIAL SPACE, HOTEL, AND SEEMS TO BE AN AWFUL LOT OF
11:13:45AM CONCRETE OF MORE INTEGRATING THAT PARKING LOT WITH THE PARK
11:13:49AM SO THAT IT IS MORE SEAMLESS.
11:13:52AM JUST A SEA OF CONCRETE AND HEAT SINK.
11:13:57AM >> ALL THESE ISLANDS, WE'LL GO OVERBOARD ON LANDSCAPING.
11:13:59AM THIS DOESN'T HAVE THE OVERLAY.
11:14:01AM ALL THE PARKING BLOCK, THE ISLANDS, WE'RE GOING TO LOAD
11:14:03AM EVERYTHING UP WITH LANDSCAPING.
11:14:04AM THAT'S OUR INTENT FOR THE HOTEL'S SAKE, PARK'S SAKE, WE
11:14:08AM DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK BARE.
11:14:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT YOUR TYPICAL HAMPTON PARKING LOT.
11:14:16AM >> IT'S NOT.
11:14:17AM HAPPY TO SHARE THE IMAGES WITH YOU.
11:14:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAY BE IN THE MINORITY.
11:14:30AM IT'S FUNNY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE UNIMPROVED PROPERTY, I'M A
11:14:35AM FLORIDIAN BEFORE FLORIDA BECAME A HOT MESS.
11:14:38AM I FIND BEAUTIFUL NATURAL FLORIDA, THE SCRUB LAND.
11:14:41AM IT ALL DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PERFECTLY MANICURED FOR ME.
11:14:47AM >> WE LIKE THAT TOO.
11:14:48AM LET IT GET LEGGY.
11:14:50AM USUALLY IN OUR TEMPLATE OF PLANT MATERIALS FOR THAT EXACT
11:14:54AM REASON.
11:14:54AM I'M WITH YOU, SAME.
11:14:56AM THIS IS THE REAR OF IT.
11:15:04AM GOT MORE GLASS, MORE FENESTRATION.
11:15:07AM IN OUR BACKYARD.
11:15:09AM REALLY WANT TO DO A NICE JOB.
11:15:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE RIGHT.
11:15:12AM HOTEL SPACE AND ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA FOR THE BASE IS
11:15:15AM IMPORTANT TOO.
11:15:16AM WE HAVE TO FIND THAT BALANCE.
11:15:17AM THAT IS A NICE LOOKING BUILDING.
11:15:19AM >> SPEAKING OF BALANCE AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, WE HAD A
11:15:22AM SMALLER PARKING LOT ORIGINALLY, BUT WORKING WITH THE PARKS,
11:15:25AM THEY FELT LIKE THIS WOULD GET QUITE A BIT OF USE.
11:15:29AM A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING CAME ON THAT SIDE, SO WE WERE
11:15:32AM ACCOMMODATING THAT BECAUSE HOPEFULLY IT WILL GET UTILIZED A
11:15:36AM LOT.
11:15:38AM BIGGER PARK, MORE PARKING YOU'LL NEED.
11:15:40AM CREATES THAT PARADOX WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF PARKING, HAVE A
11:15:43AM LITTLE PARK.
11:15:44AM WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A NICE HEALTHY BALANCE.
11:15:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:15:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:15:51AM GOOD TO SEE YOU, BRIAN, AS ALWAYS.
11:15:54AM WE ACTUALLY WENT TO LAW SCHOOL TOGETHER.
11:15:56AM CLASS OF WHAT, 2003.
11:15:59AM >> JUST THE OTHER DAY.
11:16:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: RIGHT.
11:16:01AM BEEN A WHILE.
11:16:01AM I WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU BECAUSE WE TALKED A NUMBER OF
11:16:06AM TIMES ABOUT YOUR GREAT WORK AND YOUR PASSION FOR GREENSPACES
11:16:09AM AND PARKS.
11:16:11AM I KNOW THE PRIOR PARK THAT YOU WORKED ON WITH COUNCIL MEMBER
11:16:16AM HARRY COHEN.
11:16:17AM WE'LL LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC ON THIS.
11:16:19AM WHEN I SEE THIS, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FULFILLS A
11:16:22AM REAL BIG NEED.
11:16:24AM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS
11:16:26AM SOUTH TAMPA IS VERY MISUNDERSTOOD.
11:16:30AM BIG PORTION OF THE CITY -- THEY HAVE EVERYTHING.
11:16:34AM IF YOU LOOK AT FLOODING, TAKE A LOOK AT THE ROADS IN SOUTH
11:16:37AM TAMPA AND THEN A LOT OF PARKS.
11:16:40AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOES TO A BIG NEED IN SOUTH TAMPA AND
11:16:43AM ESPECIALLY AS YOU AND MR. GARDNER HAVE NOTED, SOMETHING NEAR
11:16:47AM THE BASE, GADSDEN PARK IS SOMETHING USED BY A LOT OF OUR
11:16:50AM MILITARY FAMILIES.
11:16:51AM I KNOW YOU AS A PATRIOTIC PERSON I'M SURE ARE VERY AWARE OF
11:16:55AM THE BENEFIT THAT THIS PARK COULD HAVE.
11:16:57AM JUST WANTED TO SALUTE YOU FOR THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO
11:17:01AM HEARING MORE ABOUT IT FROM THE PUBLIC AND SEE WHERE WE GO
11:17:04AM BUT WANTED TO THANK YOU.
11:17:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:17:06AM DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION?
11:17:08AM >> YES, IT DOES.
11:17:09AM >> JUST ONE THING, WHICH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ASKED MR.
11:17:12AM MULKEY ON THE TRAIL, WE FOUND IT.
11:17:16AM IF YOU WANT, WE CAN PUT THAT UP.
11:17:22AM >> THIS WAS FROM A GRAPHIC PROVIDED BY CARLA PRICE BACK A
11:17:26AM FEW YEARS AGO.
11:17:27AM THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES.
11:17:29AM LET'S JUST PULL IT UP.
11:17:30AM WE ADDED THAT THIS PROPERTY'S LOCATION WITH THE RED CIRCLE.
11:17:43AM YOU CAN SEE HERE.
11:17:44AM I BELIEVE SOME OF IT MIGHT HAVE CHANGED, SOME OF THE
11:17:47AM MEANDERING MIGHT HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, LOCATIONS.
11:17:49AM YOU SEE GADSDEN PARK.
11:17:52AM AND ZOOM OUT OF THE DOCUMENT --
11:17:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THE LEGEND.
11:17:57AM IF YOU COULD GO IN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
11:18:01AM PERFECT.
11:18:02AM >> YOU CAN PROBABLY READ IT.
11:18:07AM THE PURPLE FUCHSIA COLOR IS WHAT'S EXISTING OR I BELIEVE
11:18:12AM UNDER CONTROL.
11:18:15AM THE ORANGE IS THE NEEDED LINKS.
11:18:18AM YOU CAN TELL WHERE THIS SIDE IS, IT GETS CHALLENGING BECAUSE
11:18:22AM THERE ARE SO MANY PRIVATELY HELD PARCELS.
11:18:25AM TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION FROM EAST TO WEST IS CRITICALLY IN
11:18:29AM THIS JUNCTURE POINT IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH I THINK THAT WAS
11:18:32AM THE OPPORTUNITY THAT BRIAN INITIALLY SAW, IF HE CAN BE A
11:18:37AM PART OF THAT AND HELP PROVIDE THAT, BY ALL MEANS, LET'S DO
11:18:40AM IT.
11:18:41AM AND THEN ALSO BE A PLACE WHERE IF YOU HAD TO BIKE, YOU COULD
11:18:44AM GO, PARK, THAT COULD BE KIND OF YOUR TRAILHEAD, IF YOU WILL,
11:18:47AM TO GO EITHER EAST OR WEST.
11:18:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:18:53AM THAT'S THE VISUAL I WAS LOOKING FOR, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE
11:18:55AM THAT.
11:18:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
11:18:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:18:58AM I'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:19:01AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME ON UP
11:19:04AM AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:19:05AM MS. POYNOR, DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
11:19:08AM YES, MA'AM.
11:19:10AM GO AHEAD.
11:19:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:19:11AM KELLA McCASKILL.
11:19:13AM I'M A NATIVE.
11:19:15AM I WAS BORN DOWN IN THAT AREA WHERE MY MOM RECENTLY PASSED.
11:19:19AM WE HAD TO GO TO MIDTOWN TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WAS SUITABLE
11:19:22AM FOR THE BESTS THAT CAME IN TOWN FOR HER BURIAL SERVICES.
11:19:27AM ALL MY LIFE WE TRAVELED AWAY THE AREA -- I FULLY SUPPORT
11:19:34AM THIS HOTEL.
11:19:35AM WE NEED IT.
11:19:37AM I WON'T GO AGAINST A PROJECT, GARDNER BREWER -- I BELIEVE HE
11:19:42AM WAS A GODSEND ANGEL FOR ME.
11:19:44AM I SHARED MY COMMENTS WITH THAN.
11:19:47AM THEY HAVE THAT ALREADY.
11:19:48AM I'M READING ON BEHALF OF CARROLL ANN BENNETT TODAY.
11:19:51AM SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE SHE'S GETTING WINDOW
11:19:54AM REPLACEMENTS AT HER HOME.
11:19:55AM SHE SAYS I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WANT THE GRASSY FIELD
11:19:58AM IN THE MIDDLE.
11:19:59AM I STILL WANT TO DO AWAY WITH PARALLEL PARKING ON THE STREETS
11:20:03AM AND I WANT THEM TO SAVE THE CLUSTER OF THE OAKS ON THE
11:20:06AM SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PARKING LOT.
11:20:08AM LOOKING AT WHAT THEY GAVE US YESTERDAY, THEY CAN SAVE THAT
11:20:11AM OAK CLUSTER BY ELIMINATE BEING SIX TO SEVEN PARKING SPACES.
11:20:15AM GUESTS CAN USE THE PARKING FOR THE PARK IF NECESSARY.
11:20:18AM IT'S A PUBLIC PARK SO WE COULDN'T STOP THEM IF WE WANTED TO.
11:20:22AM I STILL WOULD LIKE THE IDEA OF PERMEABLE PARKING.
11:20:25AM THOSE -- I'M READING FROM CARROLL ANN BENNETT'S STATEMENT.
11:20:30AM THANK YOU.
11:20:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:20:31AM MR. GARDNER IS A GODSEND.
11:20:35AM >> I THINK HUDSON, NOT GARDNER.
11:20:39AM I ASPIRE TO BE.
11:20:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, SHE HAS A COUPLE OF NAMES.
11:20:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE NAME IS ROBIN LOCKETT.
11:20:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:20:50AM GO AHEAD.
11:20:50AM YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
11:20:52AM >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:20:54AM I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M MIFFED WITH THE CITY AND THEIR
11:21:03AM PROCESS FOR THIS.
11:21:04AM YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME UNLESS YOU WANT TO,
11:21:08AM WHATEVER.
11:21:08AM I GET THIS IN THE MAIL WITHOUT THE ADDRESS AT THE TOP.
11:21:11AM THIS ADDRESS AT THE TOP, I WROTE ON THERE.
11:21:16AM THIS DOCUMENT SAYS LOT 34, 35, 36, 37 PINEWOOD, WHAT THE
11:21:24AM HELL IS THAT?
11:21:24AM OH, WAIT, I DON'T KNOW.
11:21:26AM SO I HAD TO GO AND GO TO THE TAX ASSESSOR'S WEBSITE AND I
11:21:32AM HAD TO LOOK UP PINEWOOD BF, LLC AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY
11:21:38AM OWNED.
11:21:40AM THIS DOCUMENT ALSO SAYS, IF I WANT TO SEE A COPY OF THE
11:21:45AM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I HAVE TO GO TO THE CLERK'S
11:21:48AM OFFICE.
11:21:48AM WELL, WHEN I WENT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, GUESS WHAT, THEY
11:21:51AM DIDN'T HAVE IT.
11:21:52AM I WAS TOLD BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, OH, WE DON'T HAVE TO
11:21:55AM HAVE IT DOWN THERE FOR EIGHT DAYS.
11:21:58AM SORRY, NOT SORRY.
11:21:59AM THIS IS CRAP.
11:22:01AM I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO ALL THAT.
11:22:04AM TELL THEM HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW HOW TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS TO
11:22:07AM FIGURE OUT WHERE THE PROPERTY WOULD BE.
11:22:08AM PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU CAN DO IT.
11:22:10AM I GOT ONE HAND.
11:22:14AM THANK YOU.
11:22:15AM SECOND OF ALL IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I HAVE THIS, BUT MR. FUNK
11:22:20AM BROUGHT THIS WHEN WE HAD BREAKFAST LAST WEEK, THIS IS ALL
11:22:23AM THE MONEY THAT HE'S GOING TO SPEND ON THE PROJECT.
11:22:25AM HE TOLD US THAT IT WAS LIKE HE PAID LIKE 850 A SQUARE FOOT
11:22:30AM FOR THE PROPERTY THAT HE OWNS.
11:22:32AM HE OFFERED THE SAME.
11:22:33AM AND THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO THAT.
11:22:35AM THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE MESH IS.
11:22:37AM THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME.
11:22:39AM I COULD BE LYING.
11:22:40AM I ALREADY SENT YOU AN E-MAIL OF THE THINGS CARROLL ANN AND I
11:22:46AM ASKED FOR.
11:22:46AM THIS IS PAGE FOUR OF THE DOCUMENT.
11:22:48AM I HAVE READ SOME LEGAL STUFF IN MY LIFE, BUT IT SAYS ON THIS
11:22:52AM DOCUMENT, OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE, SAYS THE CITY SHALL BE
11:22:55AM RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OTHER MAINTENANCE, REPAIR, REPLACEMENT,
11:22:58AM PARK IMPROVEMENTS AFTER THE FIRST YEAR.
11:23:00AM BUT WE HEARD TODAY THAT FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, THE DEVELOPER
11:23:05AM IS IN CHARGE OF IT.
11:23:07AM I WOULD RATHER THE DEVELOPER BE IN CHARGE OF IT BECAUSE
11:23:12AM RIGHT NOW, THAT FIELD IS KNEE-DEEP.
11:23:14AM IT'S FULL OF TRASH.
11:23:15AM IT'S NOT TAKEN CARE OF BY THE CITY.
11:23:17AM WHAT'S REALLY FUNNY TO ME IS THERE IS A SOLID WASTE FACILITY
11:23:21AM ACROSS THE STREET.
11:23:21AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD BEFORE I FORGET, I WANT THIS TO BE
11:23:25AM CALLED CHESHIRE PARK AFTER LISA CHESHIRE, BECAUSE IF IT
11:23:30AM HADN'T BEEN FOR HER, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE THROWN THIS
11:23:33AM LETTER IN THE GARBAGE BECAUSE IT SAID MARCUM STREET AND
11:23:35AM THAT'S WHERE LISA LIVES.
11:23:38AM LIVES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM GADSDEN PARK.
11:23:41AM YOU KNOW WHAT, THEN EVERYONE IN SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY
11:23:44AM WILL KNOW IT IS A PUBLIC FACILITY BECAUSE LISA CHESHIRE WAS
11:23:48AM THE PUBLIC IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:23:50AM NOW, WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT THE TRAILHEAD, THIS IS WHERE THE NEW
11:23:54AM HOTEL IS GOING TO GO -- MAYBE I SHOULD GO BACK HERE.
11:23:59AM THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE.
11:24:00AM YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE ONE OF THESE.
11:24:02AM I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU ONE.
11:24:04AM THIS IS THE LOT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD.
11:24:07AM THESE ARE THE PARKING SPACES FOR THE CITY.
11:24:09AM WELL, CARROLL ANN AND I FIGURED OUT THIS IS ABOUT 3,000
11:24:13AM SQUARE FEET OF PARKING SPACES.
11:24:15AM WHY DO WE NEED IT?
11:24:16AM THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING THERE.
11:24:19AM THE CITY KEPT INDICATING AND I DON'T KNOW, I WASN'T IN THE
11:24:22AM MEETING, BUT THEY KIND OF INDICATED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT A
11:24:25AM LOT OF PEOPLE HANGING OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION
11:24:28AM WITH THE AIRPLANES.
11:24:30AM WE'VE GOT THIS GIANT CIRCLE HERE.
11:24:33AM THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT WE ASK FOR 100%.
11:24:36AM WE WANTED SOME GRAND TREES IN HERE.
11:24:38AM WE WANT SOME BIG TREES IN HERE.
11:24:40AM THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED TO GADSDEN PARK WALKING
11:24:43AM TRAILS.
11:24:44AM WE WANT THIS TRAIL TO BE NOT CONCRETE, BUT PAVEMENT BECAUSE
11:24:49AM PAVEMENT IS EASIER ON YOUR BACK, EASIER TO MOVE ON, BETTER
11:24:52AM FOR YOU AND ACTUALLY CHEAPER.
11:24:54AM WE ALSO ASKED FOR SOME PERMEABLE PARKING.
11:24:57AM BUT CARROLL ANN IS ASKING FOR THIS PART OF THE PROPERTY
11:25:00AM RIGHT HERE, THAT CLUSTER OF TREES, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S ASKING
11:25:03AM FOR.
11:25:03AM THERE IS A CLUSTER RIGHT THERE.
11:25:05AM WE DON'T KNOW THE CONDITION OF IT, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
11:25:07AM THAT.
11:25:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:25:09AM >> AND WE ARE PRETTY MUCH -- WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS.
11:25:11AM WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOME SMALL CHANGES, BUT NOBODY HAD TIME TO
11:25:14AM GO TO THE CITY ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS DELIVERED TO US WAY
11:25:18AM TOO DAMN LATE.
11:25:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:25:20AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:25:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE A MINIATURE AL
11:25:25AM LOPEZ PARK WITHOUT A LOT OF THE AMENITIES.
11:25:27AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:25:29AM WHERE YOU CAN WALK AROUND.
11:25:31AM I THINK IT IS ASPHALT.
11:25:33AM I HAVEN'T WALKED IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS.
11:25:41AM I DON'T REMEMBER WELL.
11:25:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S ASPHALT THERE.
11:25:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: TRUETT, SOMEONE MENTIONED, I THINK CARROLL
11:25:51AM ANN BENNETT'S NOTE ABOUT PERMEABLE SURFACE IN THE PARKING
11:25:55AM LOT.
11:25:55AM ANY COMMENTS ON THAT?
11:25:57AM >> I'LL LET BRIAN ADDRESS THE DESIGN.
11:25:59AM I DID WANT TO ADDRESS, WHILE I'M UP, JUST TWO ISSUES THAT
11:26:03AM STEPHANIE RAISED.
11:26:04AM ONE ON NOTICE, THE LACK OF ADDRESS.
11:26:05AM THE REASON WHY IS THIS PROPERTY HAS NO ADDRESS.
11:26:06AM WE JUST DOUBLE-CHECKED THAT.
11:26:10AM SO THE ADDRESS THAT SHE PUT ON HERS IS ACTUALLY MR. FUNK'S
11:26:13AM PROPERTY, NOT THE CITY'S PROPERTY.
11:26:15AM IF YOU LOOK DEEPER INTO WHAT THAT NOTICE SAID, DID SAY ON
11:26:20AM PINEWOOD, SOUTH OF MARCUM.
11:26:22AM CLARIFY THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE AN ADDRESS.
11:26:24AM SECOND, ON THE MAINTENANCE QUESTION, BASICALLY WHAT IT IS,
11:26:30AM MR. FUNK DOES HAVE THE REQUIREMENT OF ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
11:26:33AM WHAT IT IS IS FOR THE FIRST YEAR, HE IS WARRANTING, SINCE HE
11:26:38AM IS PUTTING IN THE SWINGING BENCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AT
11:26:42AM HIS OWN EXPENSE, FIRST YEAR, BASICALLY A WARRANTY THAT HE
11:26:45AM WOULD HAVE ON THOSE.
11:26:46AM BUT THEN AS YOU CAN READ FROM THE SENTENCE THAT IS
11:26:50AM UNDERLINED, AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, DEVELOPER SHALL BE
11:26:53AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROUTINE LAWN, TURF WORK, AND TRASH
11:26:56AM MAINTENANCE ON THE PARK TRACT THROUGH THE TERM OF THE
11:26:59AM PARKING AGREEMENT.
11:27:00AM THAT'S THROUGH THE FIRST 20 YEARS.
11:27:02AM AND THEN IF THE CITY AND PINEWOOD OR SUCCESSOR AGREES TO AN
11:27:07AM EXTENSION, THAT WOULD CONTINUE ON.
11:27:09AM THE MAINTENANCE WILL BE PROVIDED BY HIM.
11:27:12AM WITH THAT ON DESIGN, THE PERMEABLE QUESTION THAT MR. CARLSON
11:27:19AM ASKED.
11:27:23AM >> WITH RESPECT TO MS. BENNETT'S QUESTION, THE ANSWER, WE'RE
11:27:26AM NOT GOING TO BE DOING PERMEABLE ASPHALT.
11:27:28AM THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE ENTIRE SITE IS EXFILTRATION.
11:27:31AM MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR, INSTEAD OF TRADITIONAL STORMWATER
11:27:36AM BODY OF POND, PICK ALL THE WATER UP, GO THROUGH A SERIES OF
11:27:40AM CHAMBERS BELOW THE ASPHALT.
11:27:42AM PERMEATE AND PERCOLATE ON ITS OWN INTO THE GROUNDWATER.
11:27:45AM SAME RESULT, DIFFERENT METHOD.
11:27:47AM WE HEAR HER.
11:27:48AM IT'S IMPORTANT TO US.
11:27:51AM AS FAR AS TURNING THE WHOLE THING INTO A FOREST, I'M NOT
11:27:54AM SPEAKING AS A DEVELOPER, SPEAKING AS SOMEBODY FROM HERE, I'M
11:27:57AM FROM HERE TOO, THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF PLACES TO PLAY OR
11:28:01AM THROW BALL OR DO STUFF.
11:28:02AM IF YOU PEPPERED IT WITH TREES, IT WOULD MAKE THAT AREA
11:28:06AM PRETTY UNUSABLE FOR KIND OF RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.
11:28:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ABOUT THE CLUSTER OF TREES?
11:28:15AM >> SO THAT ONE IS A TOUGHER ONE.
11:28:19AM UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS A PRETTY BINARY RESPONSE.
11:28:21AM THOSE TREES, RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO BALANCE THE SITE WE HAVE
11:28:24AM TO BRING IN ABOUT THREE FEET OF DIRT, MAYBE THREE AND A HALF
11:28:28AM IN THAT AREA, SO NO WAY THE TREES WOULD SURVIVE WITH THE
11:28:32AM DIRT PLACED ON IT.
11:28:33AM THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE AND THEN SOME ALL
11:28:37AM THE TREES SITEWIDE AND LIKE I SHARED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER,
11:28:41AM EVEN THE RENDERING I SHOWED YOU FOR THE HAMPTON IS LIGHT ON
11:28:45AM LANDSCAPING.
11:28:46AM THAT IS A PRETTY NICE RENDERING.
11:28:48AM THE ONE I THINK YOU COMMENTED ON.
11:28:50AM WE DON'T LIKE TO TEAR OUT ANY TREES.
11:28:52AM IN FACT, I HAVE A PROJECT CALLED STONE LAKE RANCH IN EAST
11:28:56AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:28:56AM THAT IS ALMOST 700-ACRE PROJECT.
11:28:59AM WE ONLY HAD TO TAKE OUT NINE TREES THE WHOLE PROJECT.
11:29:02AM WHENEVER THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH A ROAD AND TREE,
11:29:04AM TYPICALLY THE TREE WON.
11:29:06AM EITHER INCORPORATED IN A MEDIAN OR MOVED THE ROAD
11:29:09AM ALTOGETHER.
11:29:09AM THAT ENHANCES OUR VALUE, TOO.
11:29:11AM WE LOVE TREES.
11:29:12AM HOWEVER, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS ONE WHERE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO
11:29:15AM WHERE THE BUILDING WE'RE PROPOSING WILL BE.
11:29:17AM WORRY ABOUT ORGANICS, IF IT GOT INTO THE FOUNDATION, PASSED
11:29:21AM AWAY, WHEN YOU DO THE TREE WELLS, IT NEVER WORKS.
11:29:24AM WE'VE ALL SEEN IT AROUND TAMPA.
11:29:26AM THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY SOMETHING WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
11:29:31AM ACCOMMODATE.
11:29:31AM LIKE I SAID, WE ADDED MORE TREES THAN THE ONES IN QUESTION
11:29:34AM JUST SIMPLY FROM OUR CONVERSATION LAST FRIDAY, WE ALREADY
11:29:37AM ADDED TEN MORE TREES, EIGHT OF WHICH ARE LIVE OAKS, IN ORDER
11:29:41AM TO ACCOMMODATE MS. BENNETT'S REQUEST.
11:29:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A WAY, IF THIS PASSES, I MEAN, I
11:29:48AM GUESS WE'RE NOT PASSING ANYTHING BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST
11:29:51AM PUBLIC HEARING.
11:29:52AM IS THERE A WAY BETWEEN THIS FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND THE
11:29:54AM SECOND PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU COULD DO AN EVENING MEETING
11:29:58AM FOR THE RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS COMING?
11:30:03AM >> HAPPY TO.
11:30:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU TO ORGANIZE --
11:30:06AM >> YEAH, I WOULD BE DELIGHTED.
11:30:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. POYNOR AND MS. BENNETT.
11:30:12AM >> I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF UNSURE.
11:30:14AM PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:30:15AM DIDN'T KNOW THE USE OF THE LAND.
11:30:17AM SOMETHING ULTIMATELY MY FAULT.
11:30:19AM SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED THAT UP FRONT.
11:30:21AM HERE WE ARE.
11:30:21AM I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
11:30:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THAT PEOPLE, A LOT OF
11:30:28AM THE CONCERNS CAN BE ALLAYED ONCE THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:30:31AM >> AGREED.
11:30:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO DO IT.
11:30:34AM >> HAPPY TO DO IT.
11:30:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:30:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO ADD TO THAT.
11:30:41AM THANK YOU IF YOU DO THAT.
11:30:42AM I'D RECOMMEND YOU TRY TO GET TONY MULKEY OR SOMEBODY FROM
11:30:46AM PARKS TO GO WITH YOU BECAUSE ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS IS THAT
11:30:50AM THIS IS -- IT'S NOT REALLY A PARK NOW, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE
11:30:53AM TURNED INTO A PARK.
11:30:55AM I THINK THAT IS A VALUABLE THING.
11:30:57AM I WOULD ALSO BE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT STORMWATER.
11:31:00AM OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE TODAY.
11:31:03AM >> YEAH, IT WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE CITY.
11:31:05AM WE RESPOND TO THAT.
11:31:06AM THEY SAID NO RETENTION.
11:31:07AM WE ACTUALLY REDESIGNED THE EXFILTRATION, SO WE HAD INVERTED
11:31:12AM CROWN IN THE PARKING LOT, PICK IT UP IN A PIPE AND TAKE IT
11:31:14AM BACK OVER TO DEVELOPER PROPERTY AND ADDED MORE EXFILTRATION.
11:31:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:19AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:31:20AM WE DO NOT TAKE ANY ACTION OTHER THAN CLOSE THE HEARING OR
11:31:25AM LEAVE THE HEARING OPEN BECAUSE IT --
11:31:28AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: JUST TO WRAP IT UP WITH THE LEGAL STAFF, AS
11:31:32AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK POINTED OUT, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST
11:31:34AM PUBLIC HEARING.
11:31:35AM THERE IS A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 19th.
11:31:37AM WE WILL BE SUBSTITUTING THE PLAN THAT IS ATTACHED TO YOUR
11:31:42AM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO
11:31:44AM YOU TODAY BY THE DEVELOPER.
11:31:46AM YOU'RE NOT ACTING ON THE RESOLUTION TODAY.
11:31:48AM THAT IS BEING HELD UNTIL THE SECOND HEARING.
11:31:50AM I ALSO REQUEST THAT YOU ANNOUNCE AT THIS HEARING DAY THE
11:31:54AM DATE AND TIME OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
11:31:58AM ALSO JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE LICENSE
11:32:01AM AGREEMENT THAT MS. FEELEY TALKED ABOUT WILL BE COMING TO YOU
11:32:04AM AS A SEPARATE ITEM ON THE 19th.
11:32:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE TO JUST CLOSING THE PUBLIC
11:32:08AM HEARING?
11:32:09AM >> CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:32:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:32:12AM MIRANDA.
11:32:13AM SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
11:32:14AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:32:16AM CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
11:32:18AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER
11:32:21AM 19, 2024, AT 10:30 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
11:32:26AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:32:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 10:30 A.M.
11:32:45AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:32:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY, MA'AM.
11:32:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:52AM WE HAVE A LOT OF DEPARTMENT HEADS HERE.
11:32:54AM I SEE A COUPLE OF FOLKS.
11:32:57AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU PULLED QUITE A FEW ITEMS.
11:32:59AM DO YOU WANT TO BRING THESE UP NOW --
11:33:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE DO ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE FIRST?
11:33:05AM I BELIEVE MR. BHIDE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT STORMWATER.
11:33:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO THAT BECAUSE WE'LL BREAK AT
11:33:11AM 12:00.
11:33:11AM YES, SIR, MR. BHIDE.
11:33:14AM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
11:33:15AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:33:17AM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
11:33:19AM IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
11:33:23AM I THINK THE WHOLE CITY KNOWS AND EXPERIENCED THAT WE HAD
11:33:29AM SIGNIFICANT STORMS YESTERDAY.
11:33:32AM JUST UNPREDICTABLE BUT REALLY SEVERE RAIN EVENTS THAT HAS
11:33:36AM BEEN THE FEATURE OF THIS YEAR.
11:33:39AM IF YOU RECALL EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE STARTED OFF THROUGH
11:33:43AM JUNE, I BELIEVE, WE WERE IN A DROUGHT CONDITION WITH WATER
11:33:47AM RESTRICTIONS THROUGH JULY EVEN.
11:33:49AM AND NOW, OF COURSE, THERE'S NO LACK OF RAIN.
11:33:52AM WE FELT LIKE IN TODAY'S ADMINISTRATION UPDATE WE SHOULD
11:33:56AM PROVIDE A BACKGROUND ON THIS.
11:33:59AM I DID REACH OUT TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:34:03AM THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION THIS MORNING, GIVEN THAT A
11:34:07AM MAJORITY OF THESE IMPACTS ARE IN DISTRICT 4.
11:34:10AM HAVING SAID THAT, THERE ARE IMPACTS ELSEWHERE AS WELL, BUT I
11:34:16AM JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE
11:34:19AM EXPERIENCED YESTERDAY, HOW WE RESPOND TO THESE SITUATIONS
11:34:25AM TYPICALLY.
11:34:25AM WHAT OUR SYSTEMS ARE CAPABLE OF.
11:34:28AM MORE IMPORTANTLY WHAT THEY ARE NOT CAPABLE OF.
11:34:30AM HOW OUR ACTIVITIES ARE FUNDED AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
11:34:35AM GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
11:34:37AM I'LL JUST START BY KIND OF SHOWING WHAT RAINFALL WE
11:34:43AM EXPERIENCED YESTERDAY.
11:34:44AM IT WAS QUITE SIGNIFICANT.
11:34:48AM THESE ARE MEASURED WITH OUR RAIN GAUGES EITHER ON OUR
11:34:51AM WASTEWATER OR STORMWATER PUMP STATIONS.
11:34:54AM WE ARE WORKING ON ADDING ADDITIONAL RAIN GAUGES, MODERNIZING
11:34:58AM THEM SO THEY CAN PUSH THE DATA ONTO OUR WEBSITE DIRECTLY AND
11:35:03AM OTHER SENSORS AS WELL.
11:35:06AM THESE ARE DAILY TOTALS.
11:35:08AM AND IN SEVERAL PLACES IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, WITHIN
11:35:12AM AN HOUR, WE HAD MORE THAN TWO, IN SOME CASES ALMOST THREE
11:35:18AM INCHES OF RAIN IN ONE HOUR.
11:35:21AM QUITE SIMPLY, OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM, MEANING OUR SYSTEM OF
11:35:27AM PONDS, OUTFALLS, PIPES, DITCHES, AND EVEN OUR ROADWAYS THAT
11:35:33AM CONVEY THE STORMWATER ARE NOT PREPARED TO INSTANTANEOUSLY
11:35:39AM DRAIN THIS AMOUNT OF WATER IN THIS SHORT OF A TIME.
11:35:42AM IT DOES TAKE TWO TO THREE HOURS FOR THIS WATER TO DRAIN, AND
11:35:48AM THAT IS TYPICAL OF THE SYSTEM.
11:35:50AM THAT'S HOW THEY ARE DESIGNED.
11:35:52AM NOW, THERE ARE SOME AREAS WITHIN THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE
11:35:54AM UPGRADED WITH THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
11:35:56AM I'LL TOUCH ON THAT, AND THEY PERFORM A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
11:35:59AM BUT WHEN HE EXPERIENCE THESE SORT OF EVENTS, I THINK THE
11:36:04AM BIGGEST MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY IS HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF
11:36:08AM PATIENCE, PREPARING FOR ALTERNATIVES, NOT DRIVING THROUGH
11:36:13AM THOSE FLOODED AREAS, AND JUST RECOGNIZING THAT FOR THE MOST
11:36:19AM PART WITHIN TWO, TWO AND A HALF HOURS, THE WATER WILL DRAIN
11:36:24AM IN MOST AREAS.
11:36:25AM SOME AREAS ARE WORSE THAN THE OTHERS.
11:36:28AM A LOT OF THEM ARE IN DISTRICT FOUR, BUT I'LL JUST PROVIDE
11:36:32AM SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES.
11:36:35AM BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE YEARLY TOTALS AS
11:36:39AM MEASURED BY THESE RAIN GAUGES ARE QUITE SIGNIFICANT IN THIS
11:36:44AM SMALL SAMPLING.
11:36:46AM WE HAVE ADDITIONAL RAIN GAUGES AS WELL.
11:36:48AM FLORIDA, OR PARTICULARLY TAMPA BAY'S ANNUAL RAINFALL AVERAGE
11:36:52AM MEAN IS ABOUT 52 TO 54 INCHES.
11:36:56AM YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE STILL EARLY SEPTEMBER AND MOST OF
11:37:00AM THESE ARE ABOVE THAT MARK ALREADY.
11:37:03AM AND COMPARE THAT TO LAST YEAR'S TOTAL FOR THE SAME TIME
11:37:07AM PERIOD, FROM JANUARY TO SEPTEMBER, AND YOU WILL SEE THAT WE
11:37:12AM HAVE ALREADY, IN SPITE OF UNTIL JULY BEING IN A DROUGHT,
11:37:18AM EXCEEDED THOSE AMOUNTS BY SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGES, BETWEEN
11:37:23AM LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR.
11:37:24AM NOW, LAST YEAR WAS ALSO A DROUGHT CONDITION.
11:37:26AM SO THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY SURPRISING.
11:37:29AM THIS IS A SMALLER SUBSET OF DATA, BUT THIS IS REALLY TO
11:37:32AM DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'VE HAD MUCH, MUCH HIGHER RAIN IN A VERY
11:37:37AM SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THAT WILL DO THINGS LIKE THIS TO
11:37:42AM OUR SYSTEMS.
11:37:44AM THIS IS AT 7th AVENUE IN HISTORIC YBOR CITY.
11:37:47AM THIS WAS THE CONDITION I BELIEVE AROUND 6 P.M., IF I'M NOT
11:37:51AM MISTAKEN, AND IT DRAINED IN JUST OVER AN HOUR.
11:37:55AM SO THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS -- HERE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES
11:38:01AM THAT WE ALSO SEE WHEN OUR CREWS RESPOND.
11:38:04AM THIS IS NEAR HIMES AND MORRISON.
11:38:07AM AND WHAT OUR TEAM DOES IS GOES OUT AND THERE ARE TRUCKS THAT
11:38:13AM VACUUM THINGS OUT IN CASE THERE'S DEBRIS AND THINGS LIKE
11:38:17AM THAT.
11:38:18AM THAT THERE IS AN ENGINE COVER.
11:38:20AM A WHOLE ENGINE COVER MADE IT THROUGH THE INLET AND BLOCKED
11:38:24AM THE ENTIRE INLET.
11:38:28AM THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING THAT BLOCKS THE INLET, OUR WORK
11:38:32AM ZONES, AND THAT IS A BEST PRACTICE REQUIRE THAT WE USE
11:38:38AM FILTRATION OR FILTER MATERIAL OR SOCKS TO BLOCK THE INLETS.
11:38:43AM AS LONG AS IT IS AN ACTIVE WORK ZONE, THAT IS A REQUIREMENT
11:38:47AM AND THE BEST PRACTICE TO MAINTAIN WATER QUALITY.
11:38:51AM THESE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH CONSTRUCTION IN THE
11:38:56AM SUMMER, BUT ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY AS WE HAVE LESSER TRAFFIC
11:39:00AM IN THE SUMMER AND HENCE YOU SEE A LITTLE MORE CONSTRUCTION.
11:39:02AM NOW MOVING TO HOW WE RESPOND WHEN WE HAVE SIMILAR
11:39:07AM SITUATIONS.
11:39:10AM ALL OF OUR RESPONSE AND ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE, SO PROACTIVE
11:39:14AM MAINTENANCE, BE IT MOWING, BE IT HYDROSEEDING, BE IT
11:39:19AM CLEANING OUT AND DREDGING PONDS ARE PAID FOR BY THE
11:39:23AM STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
11:39:26AM THAT'S ONE OF THE TWO ASSESSMENTS THAT MOST PEOPLE FORTUNATE
11:39:31AM ENOUGH TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES PAY ON THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL.
11:39:36AM THAT INCLUDES OUR RESPONSE TEAMS.
11:39:41AM LAST NIGHT, OUR LEAD WAS RICHIE GRAZE.
11:39:45AM VERY EXPERIENCED.
11:39:46AM 33 YEARS WITH THE CITY.
11:39:47AM HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.
11:39:49AM WHEN I REACHED OUT TO HIM, HE SAID, VIK, I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS
11:39:53AM KIND OF AN IMPACT CITYWIDE IN MANY, MANY YEARS.
11:39:56AM SO THAT IS JUST ANECDOTAL BUT THIS IS ONE OF OUR MOST
11:40:02AM EXPERIENCED FOLKS.
11:40:03AM WE HAD NINE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES RESPONDING YESTERDAY WITH
11:40:06AM VARIOUS EQUIPMENT THAT INCLUDES VACUUM TRUCKS, THAT INCLUDE
11:40:11AM FLAT BEDS TO PICK UP DEBRIS AND HAUL DEBRIS.
11:40:15AM PICKUP TRUCKS THAT ARE INSPECTING BUT ALSO RESPONDING TO
11:40:19AM SMALLER CALLS.
11:40:20AM THIS SHIFT WAS FROM 3:30 P.M. TO MIDNIGHT.
11:40:24AM TYPICALLY, THIS WORK IS EMERGENCY RESPONSE WORK BECAUSE WE
11:40:29AM DON'T HAVE A THIRD SHIFT.
11:40:31AM I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THE TEAM IS ALREADY WORKING ON AN
11:40:35AM EXTRA SHIFT.
11:40:37AM WE WILL ACTIVATE THE SHIFT.
11:40:39AM IT TAKES A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO FIND FIRST VOLUNTEERS,
11:40:42AM OTHERWISE THEY ARE VOLUNTOLD, DEPENDS ON THEIR SENIORITY,
11:40:49AM ROSTER, AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THAT WILL BE ACTIVATED
11:40:52AM SEPTEMBER 23rd OF THIS YEAR AND GOING FORWARD THROUGH
11:40:57AM SUMMER MONTHS, WE WILL HAVE THIS THIRD SHIFT.
11:40:59AM WHETHER WE HAVE IT PERMANENTLY OR NOT IS A FUNCTION OF HOW
11:41:04AM WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THE WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE, WHETHER IT WILL
11:41:08AM BE ANNUAL OR NOT.
11:41:09AM ONE OF THE MAJOR CONSIDERATIONS THERE IS SOME OF THE HEAVY
11:41:13AM EQUIPMENT.
11:41:13AM IT'S A BEST PRACTICE NOT TO OPERATE IT AT NIGHT UNLESS YOU
11:41:16AM HAVE INDUSTRIAL LIGHTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:41:19AM SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON GOING FORWARD.
11:41:24AM BUT, AGAIN, FOR TONIGHT AND OTHER EVENTS, WE WILL STILL HAVE
11:41:27AM THAT THIRD SHIFT.
11:41:29AM IT WILL JUST BE EMERGENCY ROSTERS.
11:41:31AM LAST NIGHT, OUR STORMWATER TEAM CREATED 32 WORK ORDERS.
11:41:38AM THERE ARE VARIOUS WAYS IN WHICH THESE WORK ORDERS COME IN.
11:41:42AM SOME COME IN THROUGH OUR CALL CENTER.
11:41:44AM I WILL SHARE THAT NUMBER.
11:41:47AM OTHERS COME IN THROUGH DIRECT REPORTS, AND THEN WE ALSO GET
11:41:51AM TPD, AND THEN WE KNOW HOT SPOTS AND WE HAVE FOLKS DRIVING
11:41:55AM AROUND.
11:41:56AM TYPICAL WORK -- I'M SORRY THAT THIS IS KIND OF FINE PRINT,
11:42:01AM BUT TYPICAL WORK IS EITHER STORMWATER GRAVITY MAIN
11:42:04AM MAINTENANCE.
11:42:05AM GRAVITY PIPES AND THAT'S WHERE YOU EITHER SUCK THINGS OUT OF
11:42:08AM THEM OR CLEAN THEM OUT.
11:42:10AM CURB AND GUTTER REPAIRS, AND THESE ARE EMERGENCY CURB AND
11:42:14AM GUTTER.
11:42:15AM THESE AREN'T LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD.
11:42:17AM AND A LOT OF INLET MAINTENANCE.
11:42:19AM SO INLET MAINTENANCE PRIMARILY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE WATER
11:42:22AM GETS IN FROM THE ROADWAYS INTO THE SYSTEM, THAT'S USUALLY
11:42:25AM WHERE WE FIND BLOCKAGES.
11:42:28AM THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE KNOW THAT KIND OF RAIN IS JUST
11:42:31AM GOING TO KEEP WATER FOR A LITTLE BIT.
11:42:33AM SO UNLESS THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, WE PRIORITIZE BASED ON
11:42:37AM EFFICACY AND THREAT PROFILE.
11:42:42AM OTHER WAYS THAT WE GET INFORMATION ABOUT OUR SYSTEMS, OUR
11:42:48AM SCADA SYSTEM, WHICH IS SHARED WITH WASTEWATER, GIVES US
11:42:53AM STATUS ON OUR PUMPS, PUMP STATIONS AND STORMWATER PUMPS AND
11:42:58AM THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:42:58AM FLOW RATES, WHAT KIND OF FLOWS ARE GOING.
11:43:02AM IN CERTAIN CASES WE HAVE CAMERAS, SO WE ARE MONITORING
11:43:06AM DITCHES TO SEE HOW FAST THE DITCH GOES UP.
11:43:08AM IF THE DITCH IS FULL, THAT MEANS THE SYSTEM IS INUNDATED
11:43:12AM ALREADY.
11:43:12AM IF THERE'S FLOODING OUT THERE, THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH WE
11:43:16AM CAN DO IN THAT MOMENT.
11:43:17AM BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THE COMMUNITY'S UNDERSTANDING.
11:43:21AM AND THEN ALSO TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR EQUIPMENT IS WORKING AND
11:43:25AM HOW OUR BACKUP GENERATORS ARE WORKING, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES
11:43:29AM THROUGH STORMS WE MAY LOSE POWER AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
11:43:32AM THE PUMP STATIONS ARE STILL WORKING, PRECISELY WHEN WE NEED
11:43:36AM THEM.
11:43:37AM MUCH OF THESE MEANS AND METHODS ARE AUDITED ON A REGULAR
11:43:44AM BASIS AS PART OF OUR MS 4 PERMIT.
11:43:47AM THAT IS A -- SEPARATED STORM SEWER SYSTEM.
11:43:50AM WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH DEP RECENTLY.
11:43:53AM IN FACT, I THINK EARLIER -- LATE LAST MONTH, RATHER.
11:43:59AM AND THEN THE CITY, OF COURSE, IS IN THE ONLY AREA THAT
11:44:03AM EXPERIENCED THIS KIND OF IMPACT.
11:44:06AM ST. PETE WAS PRETTY MUCH AT A STAND-STILL.
11:44:10AM AIRPORT REPORTED SIGNIFICANT RAINS AND ALL OF THAT ALSO.
11:44:14AM THE BEST NUMBER TO CALL WHEN THESE SORT OF EVENTS HAPPEN,
11:44:19AM AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE DO GET A LOT OF E-MAILS, A LOT OF
11:44:23AM OUR TEAM MEMBERS DO AND SOMETIMES AT 10 P.M., 9 P.M., AND WE
11:44:28AM ALL HAVE HEAVY WORKLOADS.
11:44:30AM SO WE DO HAVE MEASURES IN PLACE.
11:44:32AM AND THE BEST NUMBER TO CALL IS 813-274-3101.
11:44:39AM THIS IS A CALL CENTER SERVICE, BUT IT IS FLEXIBLE, MEANING
11:44:47AM WE CAN INCREASE CAPACITY AS NEEDED.
11:44:50AM AND IT WORKS WELL.
11:44:52AM THAT CALL CENTER SERVICE OVERNIGHT IS ALSO DISPATCHING WORK
11:44:56AM TO OUR TEAM.
11:44:59AM AND USUALLY -- AND THIS IS LIKE EIGHT PAGES -- TYPICALLY GET
11:45:03AM A DAILY REPORT WHICH IS ABOUT ONE PAGE.
11:45:05AM WE GOT 50 CALLS LAST NIGHT THROUGH THIS.
11:45:09AM AGAIN, SORRY ABOUT THE FONT SIZE HERE, BUT WE HAVE
11:45:15AM EVERYTHING -- WE CATEGORIZED THEM FROM ROUTINE VERSUS
11:45:18AM EMERGENCY AND THAT'S HOW WE PRIORITIZE.
11:45:20AM IT GOES TO OUR STORMWATER LEAD AND THE COMPLAINT IS RESIDENT
11:45:25AM CALLED IN AGAIN AND THEY CANNOT GET INTO THEIR HOME BECAUSE
11:45:30AM OF FLOODING.
11:45:32AM I'M SORRY.
11:45:33AM I'LL BLOCK OUT THE ADDRESS THERE AND NUMBER.
11:45:37AM THESE ARE THE KIND OF CALLS WE GET ON THE SERVICE THAT IS
11:45:40AM THE NUMBER TO CALL AND WE WILL RESPOND.
11:45:42AM WE'RE WORKING THROUGH MOST OF THESE WORK ORDERS RIGHT NOW.
11:45:46AM REAL QUICK LOOK INTO CAPITAL VERSUS OPERATING.
11:45:53AM I ALREADY MENTIONED OPERATING IS PAGE 4 -- PAID FOR BY OUR
11:45:58AM SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
11:45:59AM OUR ONGOING MAJOR STORMWATER PROJECTS AND THE PROGRAM IS
11:46:03AM PAID FOR BY THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
11:46:05AM THIS IS THE OTHER PART OF THE BILL IN OUR PROPERTY TAX BILL
11:46:09AM ITSELF.
11:46:09AM AND THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE LOWER PENINSULA, CYPRESS, AND
11:46:14AM ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT SHOW UP IN YOUR QUARTERLY REPORT,
11:46:19AM AS DOES HOW WE'RE DOING WITH MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THAT TELLS
11:46:22AM YOU HOW MUCH DEBRIS AND ALL THAT.
11:46:24AM ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, YOU HAVE VERY DETAILED AND UP-TO-DATE
11:46:28AM INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT I DO WANT TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE,
11:46:35AM COUNCIL APPROVED THE INITIATION OF A WATERSHED MANAGEMENT
11:46:38AM PLAN THAT WE'VE ALREADY SELECTED CONSULTANTS FOR AND ARE IN
11:46:42AM THE WORKS OF ROLLING OUT.
11:46:44AM WHAT THIS WILL DO IS WITH THE LATEST AVAILABLE SEA LEVEL
11:46:48AM RISE DATA AND OTHER DATA, IT WILL MODEL OR UPDATE MODELS FOR
11:46:54AM WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE MODELS EVERY SINGLE BASIN WITHIN THE
11:46:58AM CITY OF TAMPA.
11:46:59AM AND IT WILL INFORM THE NEXT ITERATION OF PROJECTS, BOTH IN
11:47:03AM TERMS OF CAPACITY AS WELL AS LOCATION AND PRIORITY AND DOES
11:47:09AM VALUE ENGINEERING AS WELL.
11:47:11AM WHAT GIVES YOU THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IN ENGINEERING
11:47:15AM TERMS.
11:47:16AM I MENTION THIS BECAUSE OUR FINAL BOND ISSUANCE FOR THE
11:47:20AM CURRENT STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WAS ISSUED I BELIEVE
11:47:24AM LAST YEAR.
11:47:25AM SO THERE IS NO MORE BOND ISSUANCE.
11:47:28AM AND THAT PROGRAM, WHICH STARTED OFF AS BEING $250 MILLION
11:47:32AM PROGRAM, AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU WERE VERY
11:47:35AM INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH JEAN AND BRAD AT THE
11:47:38AM TIME, BECAME A $400 MILLION PROGRAM, PARTLY BECAUSE THE
11:47:46AM ASSESSMENT ITSELF DID INCREASE A LITTLE BIT BUT WE WERE
11:47:49AM ALSO, THE TEAM WAS ABLE TO BRING IN SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
11:47:52AM GRANTS TO THE TUNE OF $110 MILLION.
11:47:55AM BUT THAT'S WRAPPING UP.
11:47:58AM OUR MAJOR PROJECTS WILL BE DONE IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
11:48:02AM BY THEN WE WILL HAVE A WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PLAN.
11:48:05AM OUR HOPE IS THAT WE WILL HAVE A BETTER CRS, COMMUNITY RATING
11:48:10AM SYSTEM, RATING ITSELF TO WHERE MOST PROPERTY OWNERS IN TAMPA
11:48:16AM WILL SEE LOWER FLOOD INSURANCE RATES BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT IT
11:48:21AM WILL ALSO HAVE -- IT WILL ALSO HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF WHAT
11:48:25AM WE DO WITH OUR ASSESSMENT.
11:48:27AM DO WE INCREASE IT?
11:48:28AM DO WE EXTEND IT?
11:48:30AM DO WE MODIFY IT BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT MAYBE
11:48:34AM THE ASSESSMENT STRUCTURE ITSELF, BUT THAT DOES NEED TO BE
11:48:38AM LOOKED INTO.
11:48:39AM AND THAT IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM NOAA
11:48:42AM AND OTHER SOURCES, WHICH IS HISTORICAL MODELING TECHNIQUES
11:48:48AM LOOK BACK A HUNDRED YEARS AND EXTENDED THOSE LINES INTO THE
11:48:53AM FUTURE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
11:48:55AM BUT AT THE RATE THINGS ARE SHIFTING IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS,
11:48:59AM THAT WAY OF MODELING DATA IS NOT WORKING.
11:49:03AM THERE ARE NEWER MEANS THAT I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, BUT WHAT
11:49:06AM WE'RE HEARING IS THAT IS GOING TO UPDATE FUTURE SCENARIOS
11:49:11AM AND THAT IS GOING TO MEAN MORE DOLLARS NEEDED, BOTH FOR
11:49:15AM GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONCRETE BASED SYSTEMS.
11:49:18AM OUR COMMUNITY WILL HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH THAT.
11:49:21AM AND THEN THE OTHER REALITY IS, IN THE MEANTIME, THE SYSTEMS
11:49:27AM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT ARE NOT SUFFICIENT ARE NOT GOING
11:49:30AM TO GET IMPROVED ANY TIME SOON.
11:49:33AM THAT'S WHERE COMMUNITY'S PATIENCE IS NEEDED.
11:49:36AM THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO ALL WORK AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE
11:49:39AM IT'S GOING TO BE MANY YEARS -- YOU SEE HOW LONG THESE
11:49:43AM PROJECTS TAKE TO BUILD, AND WE'RE RIGHT NOW IN THE PLANNING
11:49:46AM STAGES SO THAT WE CAN ORGANIZE FINANCING FOR THE NEXT
11:49:50AM ITERATION OF ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS.
11:49:52AM AND THEN JUST A QUICK PLUG, MUCH OF THE THINGS WHEN WE
11:49:59AM RESPOND, OUR CREWS RESPOND AFTER THESE STORMS, IS YARD WASTE
11:50:04AM IN OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.
11:50:06AM SOME OF THAT YARD WASTE IS FROM THE WIND AND THE RAIN.
11:50:09AM MUCH OF THAT YARD WASTE IS EITHER FROM YARDS THAT ARE
11:50:13AM DISCARDED BY LANDSCAPING FOLKS OR HOMEOWNERS THEMSELVES.
11:50:18AM WE MUST PAY ATTENTION TO THIS.
11:50:21AM OUR TEAM IS PUTTING OUT I THINK SOME MEDIA EFFORT TO CREATE
11:50:25AM MORE AWARENESS ON THIS ISSUE, AND THEN LASTLY I WILL JUST
11:50:30AM SAY THAT OUR FIRST OR OUR IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE'RE IN
11:50:34AM THE PROCESS OF WRAPPING UP RIGHT NOW, AS I MENTIONED, IS
11:50:37AM ABOUT $400 MILLION.
11:50:40AM OUR PIPES PROGRAM IS THREE TO FOUR BILLION DOLLARS.
11:50:44AM I JUST WANT TO MANAGE THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL'S
11:50:50AM EXPECTATION AROUND THE SCALE OF THE COST WE'RE LOOKING AT IN
11:50:53AM THE FUTURE IF WE TRULY WANT TO ADDRESS OUR STORMWATER
11:50:55AM CHALLENGES.
11:50:56AM I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
11:51:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:02AM THAT WAS A THOROUGH AND LOGICAL REPORT AND I APPRECIATE IT
11:51:06AM VERY MUCH.
11:51:07AM I'M NOT YELLING AT ANYBODY, BUT I WANT TO AIR MY
11:51:10AM FRUSTRATIONS.
11:51:11AM THIS IS HOW I FEEL IN WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE LAST 48 HOURS.
11:51:17AM THIS IS ALMOST AS BAD AS WHAT WE SAW IN 2016.
11:51:20AM BECAUSE 2016, BEFORE THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS, REMEMBER A
11:51:23AM CAR ON FIRE, KENNEDY BOULEVARD, HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY, WE
11:51:26AM DIDN'T SEE THAT TO THAT LEVEL IN THESE LAST FEW DAYS.
11:51:32AM I CAME DOWNTOWN RIGHT AROUND 4:30 YESTERDAY.
11:51:35AM AND I WENT INTO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:51:37AM LEFT TAMPA HEIGHTS AT 7 BECAUSE THE STORM WAS COMING IN, I
11:51:41AM JUST COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE AND I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA OVER BY
11:51:44AM RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM, ST. JOSEPH'S HOSPITAL.
11:51:47AM I COULDN'T MANAGE TO -- I KNOW THE CITY -- NOT BLINDFOLDED
11:51:52AM BUT I CAN GET AROUND.
11:51:54AM I KNOW THE SHORTCUTS.
11:51:55AM I COULDN'T GET UP COLUMBUS DRIVE TO HOWARD AVENUE, IT WAS
11:51:58AM BACKED UP.
11:51:59AM I THOUGHT THERE MUST BE AN ACCIDENT.
11:52:00AM MUST BE A FIRE.
11:52:01AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT.
11:52:02AM I SAID LET ME CUT THROUGH THE WEST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:52:05AM I WENT THROUGH A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL STREETS BETWEEN
11:52:09AM ARMENIA AND MacDILL.
11:52:11AM I'M IN MY DAD'S HYUNDAI.
11:52:13AM I'M DRIVING MY DAD'S CAR TODAY WHICH IS A LOW CAR.
11:52:17AM I THOUGHT IT WOULD FLOOD OUT.
11:52:19AM MY FATHER, HE COMES HOME TOMORROW NIGHT, I'LL HAVE TO TELL
11:52:24AM HIM I DESTROYED HIS CAR BECAUSE OF FLOODWATERS.
11:52:28AM LUCKILY I DIDN'T.
11:52:29AM THE STREETS ARE NARROW.
11:52:31AM DITCHES ARE FULL.
11:52:32AM A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CLOSED THOSE DITCHES ILLEGALLY WITHOUT
11:52:35AM PERMISSION THAT HAS EXASPERATED THE PROBLEMS.
11:52:38AM I FINALLY MANAGED TO GET HOME BY COLUMBUS.
11:52:42AM LET ME TAKE HIMES.
11:52:44AM CARS FLOODED ON COLUMBUS AND HIMES.
11:52:47AM GET TO DALE MABRY, BACKED UP TO BEYOND HILLSBOROUGH.
11:52:50AM I FINALLY GOT TO MLK, GOT TO HABANA AND GOT HOME.
11:52:54AM CALLED MY WIFE, I'LL PULL OVER IN THE ASHLEY FURNITURE
11:52:57AM PARKING LOT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
11:52:59AM LUCKILY I GOT HOME.
11:53:00AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CARS, BECAUSE I DIDN'T COUNT THEM ALL,
11:53:04AM WERE FLOODED OUT WITH THE HOOD UP.
11:53:07AM WHAT DO I DO?
11:53:08AM WHO DO I CALL?
11:53:09AM WHO CAN I YELL AT?
11:53:11AM I DON'T WANT TO YELL AT ANYBODY.
11:53:12AM I CALLED THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:53:14AM VERY CALMLY, WE DIDN'T YELL.
11:53:15AM HE GOES, YEAH.
11:53:17AM YOU KNOW HOW HE'S VERY CALM.
11:53:18AM HE GOES, WE CAN'T EVEN GET THROUGH TO TPD.
11:53:21AM IT WAS OVERWHELMING.
11:53:25AM I'VE BEEN UP SINCE 2:30.
11:53:27AM I'VE BEEN UP SINCE 4:00, BUT UP UNTIL 2:30 LAST NIGHT
11:53:31AM ESSENTIALLY GETTING YELLED AT BECAUSE PEOPLE DO COME TO US
11:53:35AM AS A COUNCIL WITH THEIR FRUSTRATIONS.
11:53:37AM TAG THE CITY COUNCIL.
11:53:38AM WHO IS YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER, TAG THE MAYOR, TAG THE MEDIA.
11:53:41AM MEDIA KNOWS ABOUT IT.
11:53:43AM IT WASN'T JUST FLOODING HERE, ALL OVER THE PLACE.
11:53:46AM HANLEY ROAD.
11:53:48AM ST. PETE.
11:53:49AM HIGH TIDE.
11:53:51AM YOU HAD THE RIVER.
11:53:52AM PEOPLE THAT LIVED ON THE RIVER SAID I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS.
11:53:56AM GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE STREETS THAT I SAW, I GET A LOT OF
11:54:01AM COMPLAINTS FROM SPECIFICALLY PALMETTO, MacFARLANE PARK.
11:54:06AM THERE IS AN EMPTY LOT.
11:54:08AM DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A STORMWATER POND, FILLED IN YEARS AGO.
11:54:11AM DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY.
11:54:12AM I HEARD SOMEBODY DROWNED THERE AND THAT'S WHY THEY FILLED IT
11:54:15AM IN.
11:54:15AM EVERY TIME IT RAINS, NOT EVEN LIKE THIS THE FLOODING IS
11:54:18AM TERRIBLE.
11:54:19AM THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
11:54:21AM PEOPLE CALL THIS A PART-TIME JOB.
11:54:24AM I THINK TO BE ON CALL ALL THE TIME, 8 A.M. MONDAY MORNING.
11:54:28AM I KNOW IT'S A HOLIDAY WEEKEND AND I KNOW THAT IT'S SATURDAY,
11:54:32AM BUT -- I'M HAVING COFFEE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.
11:54:36AM DROP EVERYTHING TO GO OVER BECAUSE THE STREET IS FLOODED.
11:54:38AM BECAUSE SOMEONE IS BUILDING AN ILLEGAL DRIVEWAY THAT IS
11:54:42AM ADDING TO THE DITCH ENCLOSURE AND EVERYTHING.
11:54:45AM THE FRUSTRATION OF PEOPLE.
11:54:46AM SUNDAY MORNING, SAME THING.
11:54:47AM HEY, DEBRIS EVERYWHERE.
11:54:49AM I KNOW IT'S A HOLIDAY WEEKEND.
11:54:51AM SO I SHOW UP.
11:54:53AM I TRY TO HANDLE THESE THINGS.
11:54:56AM THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE.
11:54:57AM PALMETTO STREET IS ONE I HEAR ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
11:55:00AM I THINK TEN MINUTES AGO, NOTIFICATION, I CAN'T BELIEVE THE
11:55:03AM CITY OF TAMPA ALLOWS THIS.
11:55:04AM I KNOW THERE IS A WORK ORDER IN THERE.
11:55:08AM WHAT I SAW YESTERDAY IS AWFUL.
11:55:10AM I TALKED TO SOMEBODY EARLIER THIS MORNING AROUND 6:30, GOES,
11:55:13AM WELL, TOKYO IS DOING STUFF.
11:55:15AM MIAMI IS DOING STUFF.
11:55:16AM RAISE THE HEIGHT OF THE STREETS.
11:55:20AM I GO, THIS IS FLORIDA.
11:55:21AM THIS IS A PENINSULA.
11:55:23AM WE WEREN'T MEANT TO DEVELOP THESE AREAS LIKE IT IS.
11:55:27AM MY WIFE IS FROM WEST VIRGINIA FROM THE HILLS.
11:55:30AM WE DEAL WITH SNOW.
11:55:31AM WE HAVE WATER HERE.
11:55:33AM WE'RE SURROUNDED BY WATER.
11:55:34AM WE HAVE HIGH TIDE.
11:55:35AM WE HAVE RAINS.
11:55:36AM I SAW IN THE LAST 48 HOURS A RECORD FROM 1985 WAS BROKEN
11:55:41AM FROM I BELIEVE SIX TO SEVEN P.M. THE AMOUNT OF RAINFALL THAT
11:55:44AM HAS FALLEN.
11:55:46AM WE MADE SIGNIFICANT STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
11:55:49AM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ASSESSMENT IN 2016.
11:55:51AM I GOT TO ENJOY BEING BERATED ON THAT BECAUSE I SUPPORTED IT.
11:55:56AM I REMEMBER WHEN THE MAYOR WENT ON TV AND SAID CALL YOUR CITY
11:55:59AM COUNCIL AND HE READ OFF MY NUMBER.
11:56:00AM NOT THE CITY COUNCIL GENERAL LINE, TO SUPPORT THIS.
11:56:03AM I'VE SEEN DIFFERENCES IN THE SYSTEM.
11:56:07AM WHAT WE'VE SEEN, IT WAS OVERWHELMED.
11:56:09AM FROM TALKING TO HYDROLOGISTS, SCIENTISTS, AND ENGINEERS,
11:56:13AM THEY SAY NO SYSTEM WE KNOW OF CAN HANDLE WHEN YOU HAVE A
11:56:17AM MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WATER.
11:56:18AM BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE STATED VERY SPECIFICALLY WE
11:56:22AM ARE MAKING THESE INVESTMENTS.
11:56:24AM PLEASE HAVE PATIENCE.
11:56:25AM SOME PEOPLE HAVE RUN OUT OF PATIENCE, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE
11:56:28AM PLACES THAT I MENTIONED.
11:56:29AM THEY WANT RELIEF.
11:56:31AM THEY WANT HELP.
11:56:32AM BUT IN THIS SITUATION, I FELT HELPLESS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE
11:56:35AM WHAT CAN WE DO?
11:56:36AM WHEN EVERY MANAGEABLE, PASSIBLE ROAD WAS UNDERWATER BECAUSE
11:56:41AM YOU THINK IT'S JUST SOUTH TAMPA, IT WAS ALL OF WEST TAMPA.
11:56:45AM IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
11:56:46AM IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
11:56:47AM JUST AN AIRING OF GRIEVANCES AND FRUSTRATIONS ON MY PART.
11:56:51AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, CARLSON, MIRANDA, IN THAT ORDER,
11:56:55AM HAD THE MICROPHONES ON.
11:56:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID NEEDED TO BE
11:57:01AM SAID.
11:57:02AM I THINK EVERYBODY HERE INCLUDING CITY STAFF IS WELL AWARE OF
11:57:05AM WHAT OUR PROBLEMS ARE AND ALSO WELL AWARE THAT WE DON'T HAVE
11:57:09AM A SOLUTION TO FIVE INCHES OF RAIN IN AN AREA THAT'S LIVING
11:57:15AM JUST INCHES ABOVE SEA LEVEL, ALMOST AN IMPOSSIBILITY.
11:57:20AM WE HAD HIGH TIDE AROUND THE SAME TIME WHICH FOR DISTRICT 4
11:57:24AM SPECIFICALLY IS VERY PROBLEMATIC FOR US.
11:57:27AM I LIVE RIGHT THERE IN THE HEART OF THIS AND WATCHING THE
11:57:30AM RIVER FLOW DOWN THE STREAM AND WATCHING BAYSHORE FILL IT UP.
11:57:34AM IT WAS A PROBLEM.
11:57:35AM WE CAN'T AS COUNCIL JUST BRUSH THIS OFF BECAUSE WHILE WE
11:57:43AM CAN'T -- YOU CAN'T BUILD ENOUGH CULVERTS.
11:57:46AM YOU CAN'T BUILD ENOUGH STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE TO DEAL
11:57:48AM WITH WHAT WE SAW YESTERDAY, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS SMART
11:57:52AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:57:53AM FOR DECADES, WE HAVE DONE THINGS SPECIFICALLY IN SOME OF
11:57:57AM THESE URBAN AREAS WHERE WE HAVE DIVIDED LOTS.
11:58:01AM WE'VE PUT TOO MUCH ON TOO LITTLE.
11:58:04AM SAME THING I'VE BEEN PREACHING SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND I'VE
11:58:06AM SEEN THIS COUNCIL DO IT.
11:58:08AM DIVIDE LOTS AND APPROVE THESE THINGS WHERE WE ARE PUTTING
11:58:11AM TOO MUCH ON TOO LITTLE.
11:58:13AM MOTHER NATURE KICKS BACK.
11:58:14AM YESTERDAY, MOTHER NATURE KICKED BACK.
11:58:16AM WASN'T ENOUGH PERCOLATION INTO THE GROUND AND YOU PAVE OVER
11:58:21AM THESE PLACES AND THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
11:58:23AM WE CAN STILL DEVELOP.
11:58:24AM LOTS OF AREAS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WE CAN DEVELOP.
11:58:26AM WE CAN DEVELOP ALONG TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
11:58:28AM WE CAN DEVELOP TRANSPORTING STORMWATER OFF OF VERY SPECIFIC
11:58:33AM CORRIDORS AND GETTING THAT WATER FROM WHERE IT IS TO WHERE
11:58:36AM IT NEEDS TO BE.
11:58:37AM BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERY CITY
11:58:41AM ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA.
11:58:42AM SO WE HAVE TO BE SMARTER AS WE DEVELOP THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:58:45AM BECAUSE, GUESS WHAT, THAT BAY IS NOT GETTING ANY LOWER.
11:58:50AM IT IS GETTING HIGHER BY THE MOMENT.
11:58:54AM AS VIK APPROPRIATELY SAID, IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'RE
11:58:59AM EXCEEDING PREDICTIONS THAT WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN FOR
11:59:02AM 20, 30, 40, 50 YEARS FROM NOW.
11:59:05AM WE'RE EXPERIENCING SEA LEVEL RISE.
11:59:06AM EXPERIENCING WATER TABLE RISE.
11:59:08AM YOU'RE RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER WAS
11:59:10AM COMING OUT.
11:59:11AM ALL OF OUR NATURAL LAKES AND PONDS REACHED THEIR BANKS.
11:59:15AM THESE ARE ACTS THAT ARE WELL BEYOND THE CAPABILITIES OF NOT
11:59:21AM JUST THE CITY OF TAMPA BUT JUST -- WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER
11:59:27AM JOB ON COUNCIL AS WE DEVELOP THE CITY ON WHERE WE PUT OUR
11:59:30AM INFRASTRUCTURE, WHERE WE PUT OUR DENSITY, AND HOW WE'RE ABLE
11:59:33AM TO HANDLE WHAT IS SURELY COMING.
11:59:38AM WE LIVE IN PARADISE.
11:59:40AM WE LIVE WITH BEAUTIFUL WATER, BUT THAT WATER IS SOMETHING
11:59:42AM THAT IS -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD IT BACK.
11:59:45AM WE'VE GOT TO BE BETTER ABOUT IT.
11:59:47AM >>VIK BHIDE: COUNCILMAN, CAN I COMMENT ON ONE THING YOU SAID
11:59:51AM BECAUSE YOU ARE SPOT ON?
11:59:52AM THERE ARE STRONG HEADWINDS, BUT IT'S NOT ALL GLOOM AND DOOM.
11:59:59AM WE COULD FOCUS AND WE NEED TO FOCUS DENSITY IN LIGHT OF
12:00:02PM HOUSING CHALLENGES IN AREAS THAT ARE MORE CONDUCIVE AND
12:00:07PM FURTHER AWAY FROM OUR COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREAS.
12:00:11PM THAT'S WHERE COUNCIL REALLY COMES IN, BECAUSE IT IS THIS
12:00:14PM BODY THAT HAS THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
12:00:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND MIRANDA.
12:00:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD SAY THIS COUNCIL AND LAST COUNCIL
12:00:23PM I'VE BEEN ON FIVE YEARS OR SO, WE'VE LISTENED VERY CLOSELY
12:00:26PM TO THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE SOUTH TAMPA COMMUNITY,
12:00:28PM ABOUT OVERDEVELOPMENT.
12:00:30PM BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL, THERE WERE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
12:00:33PM UNITS APPROVED JUST SOUTH OF GANDY.
12:00:35PM IT OVERWHELMED THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY.
12:00:40PM OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WAS OVERTAXED.
12:00:42PM MOST OF THOSE HAVE BEEN BUILT IN JUST THE LAST FEW YEARS.
12:00:45PM WE, FOLLOWING THE LAW, THE COUNCIL IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS
12:00:50PM HAS TRIED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL.
12:00:52PM THERE ARE CERTAIN LEGAL RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT
12:00:55PM WE'RE PUSHING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
12:00:58PM AREA AND PUSHING TO DEVELOP IN AREAS ABOVE GRAND, PUSHING
12:01:02PM FOR BETTER PLANNING NOT ONLY SOUTH OF GANDY BUT THROUGHOUT
12:01:05PM THE CITY AND TO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT AREAS WHERE PEOPLE
12:01:08PM CAN EVACUATE AND WHERE THERE'S NOT THE RISK OF FLOODING.
12:01:12PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE, FOR YOUR PROACTIVE
12:01:18PM STANCE TOWARD GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT, FOR DOING THIS
12:01:21PM TODAY.
12:01:21PM IT'S NOT EASY TO BE ON THE FRONT LINE.
12:01:23PM WE'RE GETTING CALLS AND COMPLAINTS, YOU AND YOUR STAFF ARE
12:01:26PM GETTING THOSE EVERY DAY.
12:01:27PM I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING OUT THERE.
12:01:30PM WE ALL WISH THERE WAS MORE, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ANSWERING
12:01:34PM OUR CALLS AND E-MAILS AND ANSWERING CONSTITUENT CALLS AND
12:01:36PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:01:37PM ALSO, YOU MENTIONED A TELEPHONE NUMBER, NOT EVERYBODY WANTS
12:01:41PM TO USE A TELEPHONE NUMBER THESE DAYS.
12:01:43PM IS THERE A WEBSITE OR E-MAIL ADDRESS THAT THEY CAN GO TO?
12:01:46PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE HAVE A FLOOD MAP AS WELL THAT PEOPLE CAN
12:01:49PM REPORT ON.
12:01:51PM BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, THE MOST EMERGENT TIMES ARE WHEN PEOPLE
12:01:57PM ARE STUCK, AS CHAIR MANISCALCO SAID.
12:01:59PM CALLING IN IS THE BEST WAY.
12:02:03PM BUT WE'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING -- SO, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR
12:02:06PM COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS WORKING KIND OF SCOURING SOCIAL MEDIA
12:02:10PM AND IF THERE ARE PEOPLE REPORTING THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT
12:02:13PM WILL COME TO US.
12:02:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I RECOMMEND BEFORE I RUN OUT OF TIME
12:02:18PM BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE A LONG CONVERSATION, I RECOMMEND THAT
12:02:20PM WE PUT TOGETHER A COMMUNITY PACKAGE THAT'S SIMILAR TO
12:02:23PM DEALING WITH HURRICANES.
12:02:24PM WE HAVE A WHOLE PACKAGE AND A TIMELINE WHEN A HURRICANE IS
12:02:27PM COMING.
12:02:28PM THERE ARE WARNINGS, SANDBAGS, PREPARE, BUY YOUR -- WHEN WE
12:02:33PM SEE THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW, BUT WHEN WE SEE BIG STORMS
12:02:36PM ARE COMING, SOME OF THE LITTLE WAVES HITTING US ARE HARDER
12:02:40PM THAN A HURRICANE HITS US.
12:02:42PM AS WE SEE THAT COMING IN, OUGHT TO HIT WITH A PACKAGE.
12:02:46PM I THINK IT SHOULD INCLUDE TEXT MESSAGING.
12:02:49PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO STOP ALL THE STREET FLOODING
12:02:50PM IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
12:02:53PM ONE WAY TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM HAVING THEIR CARS FLOODED,
12:02:57PM AND I HAD THAT HAPPEN A FEW YEARS AGO IN ANOTHER CITY AND
12:03:00PM IT'S HORRIBLE.
12:03:01PM RUINED MY ENTIRE CAR.
12:03:03PM BUT TO STOP THAT, WE SHOULD TEXT PEOPLE AND PUT OUT ALERTS,
12:03:07PM E-MAIL AND SOCIAL MEDIA, PROACTIVELY SAY DON'T DRIVE FOR THE
12:03:10PM NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS.
12:03:12PM PLEASE HELP US TO BE PATIENT.
12:03:13PM WE'RE WORKING ON THE SOLUTION, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE
12:03:17PM BEEN INUNDATED.
12:03:19PM PUSH IT TO THE COMMUNITY AND IT NEEDS TO HAVE A FEEDBACK
12:03:23PM MECHANISM.
12:03:23PM THERE SHOULD BE AN E-MAIL ADDRESS INCLUDED IN THERE, MAYBE A
12:03:28PM SPECIAL TWITTER ACCOUNT LIKE WE HAVE FOR ALERT TAMPA AND ALL
12:03:31PM THE OTHER THINGS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN EASILY COMMUNICATE.
12:03:33PM YOUR LIST MIGHT HAVE BEEN 20 PAGES HAD WE HAD THAT.
12:03:37PM THE OTHER THING IS, IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE, ABOUT FOUR, FIVE
12:03:41PM YEARS AGO, WE STRENGTHENED THE RULES AROUND USING LEAF
12:03:49PM BLOWERS AND DOUBLED THE FINES.
12:03:51PM I WISH WE COULD DOUBLE THEM AGAIN BECAUSE I SEE PEOPLE
12:03:55PM BLOWING LEAFS IN THE STREET ALL THE TIME.
12:03:57PM IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T LIKE THE NOISE OR CLUTTER, IT'S
12:04:00PM FILLING UP THE DRAINS.
12:04:01PM MORE AND MORE PEOPLE KNOW THAT.
12:04:02PM SPENT ONE YEAR, $2.5 MILLION JUST CLEANING DRAINS.
12:04:06PM IT'S NOT FAIR THAT WE'RE SUBSIDIZING PEOPLE TO BLOW THEIR
12:04:09PM STUFF INTO THE STREET.
12:04:11PM AT THE SAME TIME, SORRY THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID THAT THE
12:04:14PM CITY'S LANDSCAPING PEOPLE WERE DOING THAT.
12:04:16PM WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF THAT, PLEASE TAKE NOTE AND MAKE SURE
12:04:19PM THE CITY'S PEOPLE AREN'T DOING THAT.
12:04:21PM I'VE SEEN THEM OUT WITH LEAF BLOWERS ON BAYSHORE.
12:04:24PM I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF THEY GO BEHIND AND CLEAN UP BUT I'VE
12:04:27PM SEEN THEM PUT STUFF ON THE STREETS.
12:04:29PM THE OTHER THING IS IT'S NOT JUST DEVELOPMENT, IT'S THE
12:04:32PM DESIGN OF NEW HOMES.
12:04:34PM AS PEOPLE RAISE UP A HOME, IT FLOODS THE ONE NEXT TO THEM.
12:04:38PM I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS IN PROVIDING ON-SITE
12:04:43PM FLOOD RELIEF, BUT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN TO
12:04:46PM MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT INADVERTENTLY CREATING MORE PROBLEMS
12:04:49PM BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE NICE HOUSES AND SUDDENLY SOMEBODY BUILDS
12:04:52PM ACROSS THE STREET, COUPLE FEET HIGHER AND WATER DRAINS.
12:04:55PM THE OTHER THING IS THAT I SAW SOMEONE, A REALTOR POSTED THAT
12:05:00PM NOW THERE IS A NEW DISCLOSURE THAT YOU NOT ONLY HAVE TO
12:05:02PM CHECK A BOX ABOUT FLOODING BUT YOU HAVE TO GO INTO DETAIL TO
12:05:05PM DESCRIBE THAT.
12:05:06PM IF THAT'S TRUE, THIS COULD START TO AFFECT HOME VALUES AND
12:05:09PM EVEN MORE REASON WHY WE NEED TO BE ON TOP OF IT.
12:05:13PM IF YOU, THE REAL ESTATE TEAM, ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY HAS
12:05:16PM AN IDEA ON POLICIES THAT WE COULD PUT IN PLACE, PLEASE LET
12:05:20PM US KNOW BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL WANT TO SOLVE THIS.
12:05:22PM THANK YOU.
12:05:22PM >>VIK BHIDE: IF I COULD ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THOSE THINGS.
12:05:25PM YES, WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS WITHIN THE LAW.
12:05:29PM THE CHALLENGE WITH FINES AND THE CHALLENGE WITH ENFORCEMENT
12:05:35PM IS WE CAN HAVE THOSE FINES, BUT IT'S VERY COSTLY TO CATCH
12:05:41PM PEOPLE DOING IT WHEN IT HAPPENS.
12:05:43PM IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD TO DO THAT.
12:05:45PM WE TRY AND SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH EDUCATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT,
12:05:49PM KIND OF SIMILAR TO VISION ZERO AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO IT,
12:05:53PM BUT THERE IS A VERY STRONG ASPECT TO CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY
12:05:56PM WHEN IT COMES TO RESILIENCE ALSO.
12:05:59PM AND WE WILL DO OUR PART IF ANY OF OUR LANDSCAPERS,
12:06:04PM IRRESPECTIVE OF THE DEPARTMENT, ARE CREATING CHALLENGES AS
12:06:09PM WELL.
12:06:09PM BUT THIS IS ALL-HANDS KIND OF A CHALLENGE.
12:06:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE PUT THAT INTO POTENTIALLY A WATER
12:06:17PM BILL ABOUT NOT BLOWING YOUR YARD DEBRIS INTO THE STREET FOR
12:06:20PM EDUCATION PURPOSES, FOR WIDE DISTRIBUTION?
12:06:23PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE'LL DO THAT.
12:06:24PM WE ALSO DO A LOT OF PSA-TYPE OF THINGS, BUT WE'LL STEP THAT
12:06:29PM UP.
12:06:30PM IN FACT, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT TODAY ITSELF RIGHT NOW.
12:06:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:06:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:06:36PM VIK, THANK YOU FOR THE NUMBER.
12:06:40PM 813-274-3101.
12:06:42PM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME TO MY MIND.
12:06:45PM NATURE IS SENDING US A MESSAGE.
12:06:47PM IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.
12:06:49PM WE HAVE BEEN ABUSING NATURE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, ALL
12:06:53PM ASPECTS OF IT.
12:06:54PM AND GOING BACK TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CLEANING THE YARD
12:06:58PM AND BLOWING IT INTO THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM, IT'S BEEN
12:07:01PM GOING ON -- PAST COUNCILS TRIED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
12:07:06PM ASKED CITY EMPLOYEES TO CALL, THOSE OUT ON THE STREET, A LOT
12:07:09PM OF THEM THAT DRIVE POLICE CARS, A LOT OF THEM DRIVE
12:07:12PM SANITATION TRUCKS, CODE ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES, I DON'T KNOW
12:07:16PM IF THAT WORKS OR NOT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS.
12:07:18PM SECONDLY, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ALL OF US TO DO SOMETHING.
12:07:24PM I CAN SAY THIS, LAST NIGHT, MY AIDE COULDN'T GET HER CAR
12:07:30PM OUT.
12:07:30PM I TOOK HER HOME BECAUSE IT WAS FLOODED IN DOWNTOWN ALSO.
12:07:34PM TOOK CYPRESS -- NORTH BOULEVARD, MADE A RIGHT ON NORTH
12:07:39PM BOULEVARD WHEN I GOT TO THE CORNER OF CYPRESS AND
12:07:41PM HILLSBOROUGH, ALREADY FOUR CARS FLOATING -- FLOATING.
12:07:45PM THANK GOD I WAS DRIVING THE OLD FORD HYBRID THAT'S GOT A
12:07:49PM BOTTOM TO IT.
12:07:50PM THE WATER WASN'T GETTING IN BECAUSE I WENT RIGHT THROUGH IT.
12:07:55PM GOT AGAIN TO THE MIDDLE OF CYPRESS BETWEEN NORTH BOULEVARD
12:08:00PM AND DALE MABRY, THERE WAS AT LEAST SIX OR SEVEN OTHER CARS.
12:08:04PM WHEN I GOT TO THE CORNER OF DALE MABRY AND CYPRESS, THERE
12:08:07PM WERE FOUR CARS THAT WERE FLOODED, JUST FLOATING.
12:08:10PM NOT FLOODING, FLOATING.
12:08:12PM WHAT IS IT?
12:08:14PM WELL, IT'S NATURE, NUMBER ONE.
12:08:16PM NUMBER TWO, NOT ONLY DID YOU HAVE RAIN FOR ONE DAY, YOU HAD
12:08:19PM RAINS FOR THREE DAYS THAT WERE EXCEPTIONAL.
12:08:21PM THE GROUND WAS ALREADY SATURATED.
12:08:23PM NUMBER TWO.
12:08:25PM NUMBER THREE, THE INCOMING SIDE COMES, IN THE WATER CANNOT
12:08:29PM GO OUT -- I DON'T CARE IF YOUR SYSTEM IS A THOUSAND PERCENT
12:08:33PM PERFECT, THE WATER VOLUME WILL NOT MEET THE EXPECTATION OF
12:08:37PM WATER VOLUME COMING IN.
12:08:38PM BY WEIGHT IT WILL COME RIGHT BACK WHERE IT STARTED.
12:08:41PM WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS GOING AGAINST US.
12:08:43PM NOT GIVING EXCUSES.
12:08:45PM THINK WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT, ASK FOR EMPLOYEES.
12:08:50PM THEY SUPPOSED TO NOT EVEN BLOW TO THE STREET.
12:08:54PM PICK IT UP WHEN THEY CUT IT.
12:08:56PM IT'S NOT BEING DONE.
12:08:58PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU, WEST TAMPA, YESTERDAY
12:09:01PM ABOUT 2:30 OR SOMETHING WHEN I WAS DRIVING AROUND, I SAW A
12:09:05PM COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS CLEANING THE DITCHES WITH WEED EATERS.
12:09:10PM DITCHES ARE NOT CLEANED WITH WEED EATERS.
12:09:14PM GRASS FROM FIVE INCHES TO TWO INCHES.
12:09:16PM HAVE TO HAVE EVERY SYSTEM CLEANED OUT WITH A SCRAPER.
12:09:21PM SO THE WATER CAN DRAIN.
12:09:24PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS NOT BEING DONE.
12:09:26PM I DON'T KNOW WHO HAS GOT THAT CONTRACT.
12:09:29PM SAW IT.
12:09:29PM NOT AGAINST THEM.
12:09:31PM WEED EAT A DITCH, CLEAN IT OUT.
12:09:33PM DON'T WEED EAT IT BECAUSE IT WON'T DO ANYTHING IN THE
12:09:36PM SUMMER.
12:09:37PM IN THE WINTER YOU CAN GET BY WITH IT BUT NOT IN THE SUMMER.
12:09:41PM THESE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO.
12:09:43PM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
12:09:46PM IF WE DON'T CONTROL NATURE, IF WE DON'T DO THINGS NOW,
12:09:50PM TOMORROW ONLY GETS TWICE AS WORSE.
12:09:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS AFTERNOON WILL GET WORSE.
12:09:55PM >>VIK BHIDE: ROBLES PARK GOT FIVE INCHES IN TWO HOURS.
12:09:59PM 3.73 INCHES IN ONE HOUR.
12:10:03PM A LOT OF THESE CELLS ARE NOT PREDICTABLE.
12:10:06PM YOU CAN SEE THE CELL COMING IN, BUT THE INTENSITY DOES SHIFT
12:10:10PM AS IT COMES IN.
12:10:12PM OFTENTIMES, AT LEAST I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN PREDICT HOW
12:10:15PM MUCH RAIN WILL COME IN WITHIN AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS.
12:10:19PM WE CAN ONLY HELP THAT TECHNOLOGY EVOLVES.
12:10:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I SAW TODAY ON TV, EVEN IF IT DOES
12:10:29PM RAIN ONE MORE DROP FROM NOW TO DECEMBER 31st, YOU'LL STILL
12:10:33PM BE ABOVE THE WATER RAINFALL THAT FELL FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.
12:10:39PM HOW MANY DAYS IS THAT?
12:10:41PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE STARTED WITH A DROUGHT.
12:10:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF THAT IS THE
12:10:46PM CASE, I'M SURE IT IS, WE'RE IN TROUBLE.
12:10:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:10:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:10:51PM I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY.
12:10:54PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S A PROBLEM IS THE WATER TABLE.
12:10:58PM WE HAD A LEAKY PIPE WHICH I FOUND THANKS TO MY WATER BILL.
12:11:03PM MY HUSBAND DUG IT OUT YESTERDAY BECAUSE WE KNOW EXACTLY
12:11:06PM WHERE IT IS AND FIXED IT.
12:11:08PM HE SAID HE COULD BARELY FIX THE PIPE BECAUSE THE WATER WAS
12:11:12PM ALREADY HIGH.
12:11:13PM THAT WAS BEFORE THE RAIN.
12:11:14PM WHAT WE'RE NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IS HOW THE WATER TABLE,
12:11:17PM WE HAVE SO MUCH RAIN ALREADY THAT WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT YOU
12:11:24PM SAID ABOUT US NOT KNOWING WHEN THE CELLS ARE BAD AND THAT IS
12:11:29PM 100% TRUE.
12:11:30PM NO ONE CAN KNOW, BUT WHEN WE HAVE HAD KIND OF RAIN, WE
12:11:35PM SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT OUT A PREDICTOR FOR TODAY BECAUSE THE
12:11:38PM WATER TABLE IS SO HIGH, BECAUSE WE KNOW A STORM IS COMING.
12:11:43PM I THINK THAT MORE ALONG THOSE LINES OF WHEN WE ALREADY KNOW
12:11:46PM THAT WE ARE AT CAPACITY WITH WATER, TO PUT OUT A MEMORANDUM
12:11:51PM AND MAYBE, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET HOME
12:11:55PM EARLIER OR BE ABLE TO STAY IN PLACE.
12:11:59PM SIMILAR TO A HURRICANE.
12:12:02PM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ROLL WITH THE TIMES.
12:12:04PM BECAUSE AS MR. MIRANDA SAID, WE CAN'T CONTROL MADAM CHAIR.
12:12:07PM THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THE WATER RISE.
12:12:09PM IT'S JUST MANAGING THE WATER THAT WE'RE GETTING.
12:12:14PM IN TERMS OF EDUCATION FOR PEOPLE WHO BLOW LEAFS AND GRASS
12:12:19PM CLIPPINGS, I THINK I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT ABSOLUTELY
12:12:23PM REACHING OUT TO YARD COMPANIES, PEOPLE WHO DO THIS FOR A
12:12:28PM LIVING AND START THERE.
12:12:30PM HAVE THAT BE PART OF THE EDUCATION PROCESS.
12:12:32PM IN ADDITION TO EDUCATING HOMEOWNERS, I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN
12:12:36PM ANYTHING IN MY WATER BILL RECENTLY ABOUT THAT.
12:12:39PM I GET MINE ONLINE, BUT STILL, THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
12:12:43PM POPS UP.
12:12:43PM THAT SHOULD BE A POP-UP BEFORE I CAN GO PAY THE BILL OF,
12:12:47PM HEY, MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT.
12:12:49PM OR IF PEOPLE GET THEIR BILL IN THE MAIL TO SIMPLY HAVE A
12:12:53PM LEAFLET.
12:12:54PM I KNOW YOU DO THAT FROM TIME TO TIME.
12:12:56PM BUT AS FAR AS WHAT COUNCIL CAN DO, ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES,
12:13:00PM AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR
12:13:04PM YEARS, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH TREES
12:13:07PM AND MITIGATION TREES AND HOW TO EDUCATE THE HOMEOWNER THAT
12:13:12PM THE MITIGATION TREE, IF YOU TAKE OUT A MITIGATION TREE, YOU
12:13:15PM CAN GET A $15,000 FINE BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF OUR WATER
12:13:20PM STRATEGY IS SWALES AND THE ADDING OF SWALES TO PROPERTIES
12:13:27PM THAT ARE BEING REDONE.
12:13:29PM WE NEED TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF STRENGTHENING POLICIES FOR
12:13:33PM MAKING SURE NEW HOMEOWNERS UNDERSTAND OR ANY HOMEOWNER WHO
12:13:37PM BUYS A NEW PROPERTY, THAT IF THERE IS A SWALE THERE, THAT
12:13:40PM YOU CANNOT FILL IT IN.
12:13:43PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE FINES WE CAN TOO MUCH IT.
12:13:47PM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS COUNCIL CAN WORK ON.
12:13:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH YOU.
12:13:54PM THE PROBLEM IS, WE PUT IT IN AND IT'S NEVER RECORDED.
12:13:57PM SO WHEN THE HOUSE IS SOLD, YOU NEVER KNOW.
12:14:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXACTLY.
12:14:01PM BUT THAT IS THE THING WE'RE WORKING ON WITH TREE MITIGATION
12:14:04PM RIGHT NOW ABOUT GIS MAPPING.
12:14:06PM I'M HOPING THAT IF WE CAN GET IT TO WORK FOR TREES, THAT'S
12:14:11PM SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON FOR SWALES, BEING ABLE TO
12:14:14PM HIGHLIGHT, NOTICE, NOTIFY, MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE NOT ONLY
12:14:18PM WHO ARE BUYING NEW PROPERTIES BUT BUYING OLDER PROPERTIES
12:14:21PM KNOW THAT THEY EXIST.
12:14:23PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT.
12:14:26PM I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER BUT KIND OF GOES BACK TO ENFORCEMENT.
12:14:30PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BROAD SET OF ACTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO
12:14:34PM BE NEEDED ON EVERY PROPERTY, IRRESPECTIVE OF USE, AND
12:14:42PM SOMEONE NEEDS TO INSPECT IT TO MAKE SURE IT IS IN PLACE, AND
12:14:46PM THAT COST IS VERY, VERY HIGH.
12:14:50PM AUTOMATION, OR AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT ISN'T ALWAYS ALLOWED
12:14:54PM GIVEN RULES AND REGULATIONS, BOTH STATE AND LOCAL IN CERTAIN
12:15:00PM CASES.
12:15:00PM THAT IS AN AREA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIRM UP AND
12:15:06PM THAT HAS BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC COMPONENT.
12:15:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:15:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:15:12PM THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE, AS ALWAYS, FOR YOUR VERY COMPREHENSIVE
12:15:16PM PRESENTATION.
12:15:17PM MR. CHAIRMAN, DID I HEAR RIGHT, SO THE FORMER MAYOR
12:15:21PM BUCKHORN, HE PUT YOUR NUMBER OUT, YOUR OFFICE NUMBER?
12:15:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU ARE TIRED OF THIS FLOODING, CALL
12:15:27PM YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND IT WAS JUST MY NUMBER.
12:15:29PM I WILL SAY THAT WAS A 4-3 VOTE.
12:15:38PM I WAS THE SWING VOTE ON THAT.
12:15:39PM I WORKED TO GET CIT MONEY ABOUT $20 MILLION TO GO TOWARDS
12:15:43PM THIS PROJECT, BE LESS IMPACTFUL ON THE TAXPAYERS.
12:15:47PM I TAKE 100% RESPONSIBILITY EVEN THOUGH I SHOULDN'T TAKE ANY
12:15:52PM CREDIT FOR IT BECAUSE IT WAS EVERYBODY, ABOUT WANTING TO DO
12:15:56PM SOMETHING ABOUT FLOODING.
12:15:57PM THE THING IS, MR. BHIDE, YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEM GETS
12:16:01PM OVERWHELMED.
12:16:02PM WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND MIGHT SEE THIS AFTERNOON AGAIN, FROM
12:16:07PM PALMETTO STREET.
12:16:08PM PALMETTO STREET, IT'S A LAKE.
12:16:11PM WE CAN CANOE OUT THERE.
12:16:12PM THAT'S HOW BAD IT IS.
12:16:13PM WE CAN GO RIGHT NOW AND CANOE.
12:16:15PM MAY HAVE RECEDED SOME, BUT NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROPERTY
12:16:19PM DAMAGE, AUTOMOBILE DAMAGE.
12:16:21PM WE'RE GOING TO GET SUED.
12:16:22PM WE'RE GOING TO GET CLAIMS.
12:16:24PM WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL SORTS OF STUFF.
12:16:26PM WE JUST HAVE TO DO BETTER.
12:16:28PM I THINK MAINTENANCE IS ONE OF THE THINGS AND GOING AFTER THE
12:16:31PM PEOPLE -- I KNOW THIS IS COMING UP IN FUTURE MEETINGS, GOING
12:16:36PM AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CLOSING THESE DITCHES AND DOING
12:16:38PM THINGS WITHOUT PERMITS BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THE EFFORTS AND
12:16:42PM THEY ARE THROWING STUFF IN OUR WAY THAT ARE HURTING OUR
12:16:47PM EFFORTS.
12:16:50PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:16:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON
12:16:54PM THIS WHICH IS TELL US HOW WE CAN HELP.
12:16:56PM THAT INCLUDES IN THE BUDGET, ANYTHING.
12:16:59PM I KNOW THAT THE VOTE THAT CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO WAS TALKING
12:17:01PM ABOUT THAT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT VOTE.
12:17:03PM I WASN'T ON COUNCIL YET.
12:17:05PM VERY, VERY, A LOT OF PRESSURE.
12:17:07PM YOU WERE ELECTED LIKE HOW LONG BEFORE THAT?
12:17:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A YEAR BEFORE.
12:17:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: RELATIVELY NEW.
12:17:14PM A LOT OF PRESSURE ON YOU, OBVIOUSLY.
12:17:16PM ANYTHING WE CAN DO, THIS IS THE STUFF THAT IS LOCAL
12:17:19PM GOVERNMENT 101.
12:17:22PM AND IT'S NOT JUST SOUTH TAMPA.
12:17:23PM THERE'S OBVIOUSLY OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
12:17:26PM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO TALKED ABOUT THAT, PARTS OF NORTH TAMPA
12:17:30PM AS WELL, IN I GO THAT WE CAN DO.
12:17:31PM I'M GLAD WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ISSUE AND
12:17:36PM THE EFFECT THAT HAS.
12:17:37PM IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE MAYOR DID THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
12:17:41PM THE IDEA THAT AS THE CITY GROWS, TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBER
12:17:44PM OF PARKS.
12:17:45PM PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN AS THE CITY GROWS, AS THE
12:17:48PM COMMUNITY GROWS, WE HAVE TO INVEST IN MEETING THE NEEDS OF
12:17:51PM THAT GROWING COMMUNITY.
12:17:52PM THE SAME GOES WITH THIS ISSUE, AS WE GROW AS A CITY, IF WE
12:17:56PM DON'T PUT IN THE BUDGET ALLOWANCES TO MEET THAT GROWTH ON
12:18:01PM ALL PARTS, THAT'S BEEN THE MESSAGE SINCE DAY ONE, THEN WE'RE
12:18:04PM NOT DOING OUR JOB.
12:18:07PM THAT'S ALL OF US, BY THE WAY.
12:18:09PM MYSELF INCLUDED.
12:18:10PM ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO IN THE BUDGET, SIR, FOR THIS, PLEASE
12:18:14PM LET US KNOW.
12:18:14PM ANYTHING AT ALL.
12:18:15PM EFFORTS, I THINK WE WOULD ALL BE VERY SUPPORTIVE.
12:18:18PM THIS IS LOCAL GOVERNMENT 101.
12:18:20PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU FOR ASKING.
12:18:22PM I WILL MAKE TWO SUGGESTIONS RIGHT NOW SINCE YOU ASKED.
12:18:25PM THE FIRST ONE IS WE'RE WORKING ON THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT
12:18:30PM PLAN THAT WILL COME WITH AN UPDATED STORMWATER TECHNICAL
12:18:34PM MANUAL AND SOME PROPOSED RULE CHANGES.
12:18:38PM PLEASE SUPPORT THOSE.
12:18:39PM AND THE OTHER IS MUCH MORE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT IT ADDRESSES
12:18:44PM HOUSING AS WELL.
12:18:45PM IT IS THE Z WORD, ZONING.
12:18:47PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT ZONING IN THE AREAS WHICH ARE MOST
12:18:52PM CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT, FOR HOUSING, EVEN FROM A
12:18:55PM STORMWATER PERSPECTIVE, AND WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT SOME OF
12:18:58PM THOSE ARE WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THE BIGGEST JOB GROWTH,
12:19:02PM BETWEEN THE AIRPORT AND DOWNTOWN AND YBOR.
12:19:05PM THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT ARE CONDUCIVE FOR THIS AND WE WILL
12:19:10PM BE ABLE TO MOVE THE WATER A LITTLE BIT BETTER FROM THOSE
12:19:13PM AREAS, A LITTLE BIT HARDER AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE COAST.
12:19:19PM I KNOW THAT'S CONTROVERSIAL, BUT IT DOES ADDRESS A LOT OF
12:19:22PM MAJOR NEEDS OVER THE NEXT 30, 50 YEARS FOR US.
12:19:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:19:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:19:28PM I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THE LEAF SITUATION.
12:19:31PM WHEN OUR CITIZENS ARE BLOWING THEM IN THE DRAIN, THAT
12:19:36PM REQUIRES US TO REMOVE THEM TO UNCLOG THEM?
12:19:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: IF THEY MAKE IT INTO THE DRAINS, YES, WE HAVE
12:19:42PM TO.
12:19:42PM NOBODY ELSE MAINTAINS THE SYSTEMS.
12:19:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS IT A NEW PROBLEM?
12:19:46PM >>VIK BHIDE: VERY OLD PROBLEM.
12:19:47PM EXACERBATED BY RECENT CONDITIONS.
12:19:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU THINK PART OF IT, TOO, IS THE FACT
12:19:53PM THAT WE'RE NOT LONGER ALLOWED TO BAG LEAFS IN PLASTIC BAGS
12:19:56PM FOR THE CITY TO PICK THEM UP?
12:19:57PM DO YOU THINK THAT COULD BE A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR?
12:20:00PM >>VIK BHIDE: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AS MUCH OF A
12:20:03PM CONTRIBUTING FACTOR AS MUCH AS THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE
12:20:06PM VERY, VERY HARD TO ENFORCE.
12:20:09PM YOU HAVE TO BE AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME TO
12:20:11PM CAPTURE THAT.
12:20:12PM I'M NOT AWARE OF OUR AUTOMATION TOOLS, LIKE WE CAN WITH
12:20:20PM PARKING, FOR EXAMPLE, PARKING IN A BIKE LANE AND ALL OF
12:20:22PM THAT, THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE SORT OF BROAD
12:20:25PM ENFORCEMENT.
12:20:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SHORT PERSONAL NOTE, I FLOODED TWO SPORTS
12:20:30PM CARS IN TAMPA.
12:20:31PM ONE ON WESTSHORE AND ONE ORIENT ROAD JAIL.
12:20:34PM I TRY NOT TO DRIVE IN THE RAIN ANYMORE.
12:20:36PM IT'S VERY PAINFUL TO BE A PART -- I WORKED AT ORIENT ROAD
12:20:42PM JAIL.
12:20:42PM STOP TELLING JOKES.
12:20:43PM YOU KNOW THAT DOESN'T GO WELL FOR YOU UP HERE.
12:20:46PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:20:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE'S RIGHT.
12:20:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: VIK, A QUICK QUESTION.
12:20:58PM AT THE BEGINNING, TALKING ABOUT THE STORMWATER FEE AND YOU
12:21:03PM TALKED ABOUT THE END OF THE BONDING, BUT YOU DIDN'T SAY
12:21:06PM WHEN.
12:21:07PM AGAIN, THE STORMWATER FEE WAS APPROVED BEFORE MY TIME.
12:21:11PM >> CORRECT.
12:21:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOES IT SUNSET AT SOME POINT AND WHEN IS
12:21:14PM THAT?
12:21:15PM >>VIK BHIDE: THIRD YEAR ASSESSMENT FOR THE IMPROVEMENT.
12:21:18PM SO I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE, BUT I WOULD THINK 2016.
12:21:23PM AROUND 2046 OR 2045.
12:21:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: FAR OUT IN THE FUTURE.
12:21:27PM >>VIK BHIDE: CORRECT.
12:21:28PM BEFORE THAT TIME, WE WILL KNOW WHAT ELSE WE NEED TO DO AND
12:21:33PM THEN WE SHOULD TRY AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT THEN.
12:21:36PM I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE SERVICE
12:21:40PM ASSESSMENT, THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT RELATIVE TO OUR NEEDS HAS
12:21:45PM ALREADY FALLEN SHORT.
12:21:46PM AND THAT WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE TAKEN A LOOK AT.
12:21:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, THE CONTROVERSY AND THE
12:21:57PM BASHING THAT GUIDO GOT WAS AROUND THE CITY'S FORMULA FOR HOW
12:22:03PM IT'S CALCULATED.
12:22:05PM IF AT SOME POINT WE'RE UPDATING IT OR LOOKING AT BONDING, WE
12:22:10PM MIGHT WANT TO GO BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TALK ABOUT
12:22:12PM THE FORMULA BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT
12:22:14PM THE WAY IT WAS CALCULATED WAS NOT EQUITABLE.
12:22:16PM I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT LONG CONVERSATION.
12:22:18PM TOOK A LOT OF BRAVERY ON GUIDO'S PART TO VOTE FOR IT
12:22:22PM CONSIDERING HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AGAINST IT.
12:22:24PM IF WE DIDN'T HAVE IT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET
12:22:27PM THESE THINGS DONE.
12:22:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT WAS VERY TIMELY.
12:22:31PM THANK YOU FOR THAT SUPPORT BECAUSE WE'RE BETTER OFF TODAY
12:22:33PM BECAUSE OF IT.
12:22:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY REWARD, I GET YELLED AT EVEN MORE.
12:22:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE WRAPPING UP.
12:22:42PM I WANT TO SAY FOR ITEMS 28, 33, 34, AND 55, AFTER WE GET
12:22:47PM BACK, I JUST NEED MR. ROGERO.
12:22:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A 1:30 HEARING, ITEM 63.
12:22:53PM WE'LL TAKE THAT AND GO RIGHT TO THE STAFF REPORTS.
12:22:57PM THOSE ITEMS.
12:23:03PM IF YOU LIKE HANGING OUT WITH US, YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO
12:23:06PM STAY.
12:23:07PM WE'LL RECESS FOR LUNCH UNTIL 1:45.
12:23:10PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:23:11PM [LUNCH RECESS]
01:47:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD AFTERNOON, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL
01:47:59PM THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
01:48:00PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:48:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:48:09PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
01:48:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:48:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:48:14PM ALL RIGHT, THE HEARINGS ARE OPEN.
01:48:15PM THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT CAME THROUGH ABOUT ITEM 64 TO
01:48:19PM CONTINUE IT TO A LATER DATE.
01:48:26PM THE PETITIONER IS HERE.
01:48:27PM QUASI-JUDICIAL.
01:48:30PM DO I HAVE TO SWEAR HIM IN FOR A CONTINUANCE?
01:48:34PM >> WILLIAM MOLLOY.
01:48:37PM COUNCILMAN, A TECHNICAL MATTER.
01:48:45PM MY ENGINEER HAD A FLOODING ISSUE AND WILL ASK FOR YOUR
01:48:49PM INDULGENCE.
01:48:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IT TO?
01:48:53PM >> NEXT AVAILABLE HEARING, SIR.
01:48:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S FIND OUT.
01:48:56PM OCTOBER 3.
01:49:00PM >> THAT IS FINE.
01:49:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 3.
01:49:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:49:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:49:08PM MR. SHELBY?
01:49:10PM 1:30 P.M., 301 E. KENNEDY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
01:49:19PM >> THANK YOU.
01:49:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 63 IS OUR NEXT HEARING.
01:49:22PM ITEM 63.
01:49:24PM IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 63, PLEASE STAND,
01:49:28PM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
01:49:31PM [SWEARING IN]
01:49:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY REGISTERED ONLINE?
01:49:48PM YES?
01:49:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL EX-PARTE
01:49:52PM COMMUNICATION AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION.
01:49:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION.
01:49:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:49:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:49:59PM OPPOSED.
01:50:00PM ITEM 63.
01:50:02PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA
01:50:06PM PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:50:06PM ITEM NUMBER 63 IS REVIEW HEARING FOR THE MATTER OF SUB 24-12
01:50:13PM FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED 2115 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
01:50:17PM THE PETITIONER IS ASKING -- APPEALING A DECISION BY STAFF
01:50:23PM WHO DETERMINED THAT THEIR REQUEST WAS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
01:50:27PM TO A REZONING APPLICATION.
01:50:30PM CODE SECTION 27-138 ALLOWING FOR AN APPLICANT WHO HAS AN
01:50:35PM APPROVED SITE PLAN TO ASK FOR CHANGES -- ADMINISTRATIVE
01:50:44PM PROCESS, TO ASK FOR CHANGES FOR THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AS
01:50:48PM LONG AS THEY ARE NONSUBSTANTIAL 27-138 PROVIDING THAT PROCESS.
01:50:51PM AND I PROVIDED YOU A COPY OF THAT CODE SECTION.
01:50:54PM TO JUST -- JUST TO GO BACK, THE PETITIONER IS REQUESTING TO
01:51:00PM REDUCE THE SETBACKS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
01:51:03PM AS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN REZ 16-66 FROM -- TO 8 FEET --
01:51:12PM WHEN THE CODE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 10 FEET.
01:51:14PM SO STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST WAS A SUBSTANTIAL
01:51:19PM CHANGE.
01:51:20PM ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 27-138, SUBSECTIONS 7.
01:51:24PM I ALSO PROVIDED YOU A COPY OF THAT CODE SECTION AS WELL.
01:51:27PM STAFF MADE THAT DECISION ON MAY 31, 2024.
01:51:32PM IN THE PACKET, I PROVIDED YOU ALONG WITH THE CODE SECTIONS I
01:51:37PM PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, I PROVIDED YOU A COPY OF THE RULES OF
01:51:40PM PROCEDURES, SAMPLE MOTIONS, AND ALSO CODE SEC-ION 27-61
01:51:47PM SUBSECTIONS J-3 WHICH GOVERNS REVIEW HEARINGS AS STATED IN
01:51:54PM 27-16 SUBSECTIONS J-3.
01:51:57PM DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING WHERE CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT NEW
01:52:02PM INFORMATION AND TAKE TESTIMONY REGARDING THIS MATTER.
01:52:04PM MISS DOCK IS HERE TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE
01:52:07PM APPLICATION AND THE DECISION FROM STAFF.
01:52:11PM ONCE YOU HEAR FROM ALL THE PARTIES AND EVIDENCE REGARDING
01:52:14PM THIS MATTER, COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF STAFF WHO
01:52:19PM DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST WAS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE OR CITY
01:52:26PM COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF STAFF AND DETERMINE
01:52:29PM THAT THE REQUEST FROM THE PETITIONER IS NONSUBSTANTIAL.
01:52:31PM SOME THOSE ARE THE TWO ACTION ITEMS CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE.
01:52:36PM AND I WILL BE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT NOW I
01:52:40PM WILL TURN IT OVER TO MISS DOCK.
01:52:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:52:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:52:44PM ANY QUESTIONS?
01:52:45PM YES, MISS DOCK.
01:52:47PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
01:52:48PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:52:51PM AND I HAVE A PRESENTATION.
01:52:53PM IF WE CAN BRING THAT UP.
01:52:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IT IS.
01:52:56PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: OKAY.
01:52:56PM SO THIS REQUEST AS HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH YOU IS A
01:53:01PM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE APPEAL HEARING.
01:53:03PM THIS IS FOR SUB 24-12.
01:53:06PM SO THE APPLICANT IS JIM PORTER.
01:53:10PM PROPERTY IS 2115 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
01:53:14PM SO THE REQUEST IS REVIEWED UNDER SECTION 27-138 OF THE
01:53:19PM ZONING CODE.
01:53:20PM THE REQUEST, AS MENTIONED TO YOU, AND HAS BEEN BRIEFED, IS
01:53:25PM -- THE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE THE FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM 10
01:53:29PM FEET MINIMUM TO 8 FEET.
01:53:31PM I WILL SHOW YOU MOMENTARILY THE PICTURES OF THE SITE AND
01:53:34PM WHAT WE ARE REFERENCING HERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE.
01:53:37PM SO THE LOCATION OF THE SITE.
01:53:39PM THIS IS AN AERIAL.
01:53:41PM JUST FOR ORIENTATION.
01:53:43PM THE SITE IS LOCATED WEST OF HIMES AVENUE.
01:53:46PM IT IS ON DALE MABRY AND BORDERED WITH CHERRY STREET TO THE
01:53:49PM NORTH.
01:53:50PM AND WALNUT STREET IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, AND
01:53:53PM IT IS AT THE CORNER.
01:53:54PM SO THE SITE ITSELF, JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE ZONING FOR A
01:53:59PM SECOND.
01:53:59PM THE SITE IS APPROVED THROUGH A PD REZONING.
01:54:03PM IT WAS APPROVED IN 2016 UNDER FILE REZ-16-66.
01:54:08PM THAT APPROVAL ALLOWS FOR ALL CI USES ON THE SITE, ALL
01:54:13PM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVES I HAVE IT USES ARE ALLOWED.
01:54:16PM THIS COUNCIL HEARS PD REQUESTS BEFORE THEM ALL THE TIME.
01:54:19PM ANY PDs APPROVED, A FIVE-YEAR TIME FRAME FOR BUILD OUT.
01:54:24PM IF YOU BUILD BEYOND THAT FIVE YEARS, YOU SUBMIT A
01:54:27PM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEW.
01:54:28PM YOU SUBMIT THAT SITE PLAN.
01:54:30PM IT IS REVIEWED.
01:54:31PM AND THAT SITE PLAN SHOULD MIMIC WHAT YOU SUBMIT FOR YOUR
01:54:34PM BUILDING PERMIT.
01:54:34PM SO IN 2023, A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED
01:54:40PM SHOWED THE USE OF THE DRIVE-IN WINDOW AND A RESTAURANT
01:54:43PM ON-SITE AND ALSO GENERAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE WEST SHORE
01:54:46PM OVERLAY DISTRICT STANDARDS.
01:54:49PM SINCE THAT TIME, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE APPLICANT WENT TO
01:54:51PM PERMITTING.
01:54:52PM AND ON THE SECOND ROUND OF PERMITTING REVIEWS IS WHEN IT WAS
01:54:56PM DISCOVERED THAT THE SETBACK WAS NOT AT 10 FEET.
01:54:59PM IT WAS AT 8 FEET ON THAT WEST SIDE.
01:55:01PM SO WE WILL SHOW YOU THAT IMAGE SHORTLY.
01:55:03PM WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THE SITE.
01:55:06PM THE TOP PHOTO IS THE SITE ITSELF.
01:55:08PM THE FRONT OF THE SITE.
01:55:09PM THE WEST VIEW.
01:55:10PM IF YOU ARE ON DALE MABRY AND LOOKING AT THE SITE, LOOKING
01:55:13PM EAST.
01:55:14PM THE BOTTOM LEFT PICTURE IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE, THE
01:55:17PM FRONT OF IT.
01:55:18PM AND THIS IS IF YOU ARE SENDING ON THE NORTH END OF IT
01:55:21PM LOOKING SOUTH.
01:55:21PM THE BOTTOM PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS THE EAST END OF THE SITE
01:55:25PM AND WHERE PATRONS WOULD ENTER THE SITE, THE SUBJECT SITE FOR
01:55:28PM THE DRIVE-THRU SERVICE.
01:55:30PM SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU ALSO THE SITE, WHAT ELSE IS ON THE
01:55:34PM SITE.
01:55:35PM SO IF YOU WERE HEADED NORTH ON DALE MABRY AND YOU TURN RIGHT
01:55:38PM INTO THE SITE, WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS THE HOTEL.
01:55:41PM THE PICTURE ON THE TOP.
01:55:42PM THE HOTEL IS DEVELOPED.
01:55:44PM IF YOU LOOK TO YOUR LEFT, THAT IS THE SITE WHICH IS THE
01:55:47PM BOTTOM PICTURE.
01:55:48PM AND THAT IS THE VIEW IF YOU ARE LOOKING NORTH AT THE SUBJECT
01:55:51PM SITE.
01:55:51PM SO THERE IS AN ARROW THAT IS THERE.
01:55:54PM I KNOW SOME OF THE WORDING IS KIND OF OVER THAT ARROW,
01:55:57PM BUT IT KIND OF POINTS TO THAT COLUMN.
01:56:00PM ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT COLUMN, THAT IS THE FRONT SETBACK
01:56:04PM AND WHERE IT IS OFF BY TWO FEET.
01:56:05PM SO IN THE REZONING AND IN THE APPROVED PUBLIC HEARINGS, IT
01:56:09PM CALLS OUT AND BY THE WEST SHORE OVERLAY MINIMUM TEN-FOOT
01:56:16PM SETBACK AND STAFF CANNOT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THE
01:56:19PM DIFFERENCE IN THE SETBACK.
01:56:20PM SO AS MENTIONED EARLIER, IT IS IN THE WEST SHORE OVERLAY
01:56:24PM DISTRICT.
01:56:25PM DALE MABRY IS A REGIONAL CORRIDOR AND THOSE ARE THE
01:56:28PM STANDARDS ON THAT REGIONAL CORRIDOR THAT MINIMUM TEN-FOOT
01:56:35PM SETBACK.
01:56:35PM STAFF TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THE SITE IS FOR
01:56:37PM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES AND THAT THE HOTEL IS ALREADY
01:56:42PM BUILT ON THE SITE ALONG WITH THE RESTAURANT, BUT WE LOOK AT
01:56:45PM ANY POSSIBLE IMPACTS, AND WE DIDN'T FIND ANY FROM THAT
01:56:48PM CONSTRUCTION.
01:56:51PM AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OBJECTIONS WITH THE REQUEST.
01:56:55PM STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.
01:56:58PM WHAT WE LOOKED AT IN ADDITION TO THE SITE ALLOWING
01:57:04PM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES.
01:57:06PM WE LOOK WHENEVER THERE IS A REQUEST FOR RELIEF FROM THE
01:57:09PM CODE AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND NO POTENTIAL IMPACTS FOR
01:57:11PM ALLOWING THAT SETBACK AT THE 8 FEET.
01:57:13PM WE LOOKED AT THE FRONTAGE OF THE SITE, THE TRANSPARENCY AND
01:57:21PM EMBELLISHMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY.
01:57:24PM WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
01:57:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:57:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE?
01:57:31PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
01:57:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY THE ISSUE HERE THAT STAFF CANNOT
01:57:37PM OVERRIDE THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY?
01:57:40PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
01:57:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF OVERTURNING
01:57:44PM THE DENIAL.
01:57:47PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
01:57:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT IN SUPPORT OF OVERTURNING THE DENIAL, BUT
01:57:50PM SUPPORTING THE IDEA OF MODIFYING THE SETBACK.
01:57:53PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: TO THE 8 FEET WHICH IS KIND --
01:57:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT AS THE SAME THING
01:57:59PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
01:58:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO -- SO BASICALLY IF THIS WAS INCORRECT --
01:58:11PM TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
01:58:12PM IDEALLY THIS SHOULD -- IF THIS ISN'T -- IF THIS ISN'T -- IF
01:58:16PM THIS IS NOT SOMETHING OF THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY THAT YOU CAN
01:58:20PM APPROVE WILL HAVE TO COME TO US.
01:58:21PM BUT INSTEAD OF DOING TWO THINGS, WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING ONE
01:58:25PM THING.
01:58:25PM SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK US TO TWICE.
01:58:28PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: SINCE IT IS IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE
01:58:32PM WEST SHORE OVERLAY TO HAVE THAT SETBACK.
01:58:34PM THEY ARE NOT AT THAT SETBACK.
01:58:36PM ONE OF THE STAFF CANNOT ADMINISTRATIVELY IS THE SETBACK.
01:58:40PM ONLY WAY IT IS APPROVED THROUGH CITY COUNCIL AND THAT
01:58:43PM PROCESS.
01:58:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:58:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO I HAVE A QUESTION.
01:58:46PM THIS WAS APPROVED AS A PD IN 2016.
01:58:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
01:58:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WASN'T TOUCHED IN THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD?
01:58:55PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
01:58:56PM ONCE A PD IS APPROVED AND FIVE YEARS HAVE EXPIRED, STAFF CAN
01:59:05PM RE-- I DON'T KNOW, REAPPROVE THE -- REAPPROVE JUST THE STAFF
01:59:09PM APPROVAL AND DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
01:59:11PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE FIVE-YEAR BUILD-OUT.
01:59:16PM AFTER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, THE APPLICANT HAS TO SHOW THEY
01:59:20PM ARE MEETING CODE REQUIREMENTS.
01:59:23PM AND STAFF REVIEW IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PD PLAN SO THEY
01:59:28PM CAN'T DO ANYTHING THAT IS NOT APPROVED IN THE PD PLAN.
01:59:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOTCHA, THE PD LIVES FOREVER?
01:59:36PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: PD IS FOREVER UNTIL SOMEONE COMES BACK AND
01:59:40PM REZONES IT AGAIN.
01:59:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE SETBACK IN THIS CORRIDOR.
01:59:46PM OTHER EXAMPLES OF ENCROACHMENT THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THAT --
01:59:50PM THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING CONDITIONS.
01:59:52PM THIS WILL JUST BE ONE OF MANY OR WILL THIS BE JUST THE FIRST
01:59:56PM ENCROACHMENT IN THAT CORRIDOR?
01:59:59PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I I DID NOT LOOK ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
02:00:02PM I CAN CHECK AND SEE WHAT IT -- I JUST DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS
02:00:06PM TO SAY THAT THERE ARE TO MANY WITHIN THIS DISTANCE THAT HAS
02:00:13PM ENCROACHED.
02:00:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR AND WHO
02:00:16PM KNOWS THE FUTURE -- WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
02:00:19PM SO ARE WE APPROVING THAT ONE DAY WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND
02:00:23PM BUY?
02:00:24PM THAT IS WHAT I WONDER ABOUT.
02:00:25PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT AND
02:00:29PM CONSIDERED AND REVIEWED THE FACT THERE IS COMMERCIAL TO THE
02:00:31PM NORTH, COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH, AND A STRIP OF DALE MABRY
02:00:35PM WITH THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
02:00:36PM SO WE JUST DIDN'T FEEL THAT THERE WAS MAJOR IMPACTS AT ALL.
02:00:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I FELT LIKE -- IF I KNEW THERE WERE OTHER
02:00:42PM EXAMPLES ENCROACHMENTS, I GUESS I WOULDN'T -- IF IT WAS THE
02:00:47PM FIRST ONE, THEN I MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE WARY OF
02:00:51PM APPROVING.
02:00:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:00:54PM DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION.
02:00:56PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THAT CONCLUDES.
02:00:57PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
02:01:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES THAT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE
02:01:02PM PRESENTATION BY STAFF?
02:01:06PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: BY STAFF, YES.
02:01:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE APPLICANT WHO WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES
02:01:12PM TO PRESENT.
02:01:12PM WE WILL HAVE QUESTIONS AND THEN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
02:01:14PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN AND CITY COUNCIL.
02:01:17PM MY NAME IS JOHN DICKS.
02:01:19PM I PRACTICE LAW WITH JIM PORTER.
02:01:21PM SO I'M HERE ON HIS BEHALF.
02:01:24PM I ALSO HAVE WITH ME, CHRIS KERN AND DAVID PANELLA, BOTH OF
02:01:29PM WHOM WORK WITH -- OR FOR GREEN LANE, THE RESTAURANT IN
02:01:33PM QUESTION HERE.
02:01:34PM AND I DON'T WANT TO REHASH ANYTHING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
02:01:41PM SAYS AND COGNIZANT AND RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME.
02:01:45PM I DO WANT TO MAKE JUST A COUPLE POINTS, VERY QUICK POINTS.
02:01:49PM FIRST OF ALL, GREEN LANE, IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT,
02:01:53PM IS A NEW CONCEPT.
02:01:54PM IT IS A SALAD -- FRESH SALAD AND WRAP DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANT.
02:02:01PM THIS PARTICULAR SITE, YOU HEARD IS IT IS ON DALE MABRY, JUST
02:02:05PM SOUTH TO THE STADIUM.
02:02:06PM ON YOUR WAY TO THE STADIUM ON THE RIGHT.
02:02:09PM EXCITING NEW CONCEPT.
02:02:10PM THE THIRD LOCATION IN TAMPA BAY.
02:02:12PM THEY ARE WORKING ON THE FOURTH.
02:02:13PM TWO LOCATIONS IN TAMPA THE OTHER ONE IS ON GANDY.
02:02:16PM BUT EXCITED WHAT THEY ARE BRINGING.
02:02:18PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING, BECAUSE IT IS A
02:02:22PM DRIVE-THRU, THEY ARE -- WELL, THEY ARE SERVING SALAD BY
02:02:26PM DRIVE-THRU.
02:02:27PM THIS IS WHAT YOU HEARD ABOUT IS THE -- THE WALL IN QUESTION
02:02:32PM AND THE SETBACK ISSUE HERE IS CREATED NOT BY -- I THINK THIS
02:02:35PM IS IMPORTANT -- NOT BY THE BUILDING ITSELF, WHICH IS 37 FEET
02:02:40PM FROM THE ROAD, BUT BY THIS LITTLE WALL THAT PROTECTS THE
02:02:45PM DRIVE THROUGH.
02:02:46PM AND SCREENS THE DRIVE THROUGH.
02:02:48PM AND THAT SCREENING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PD ITSELF.
02:02:52PM SO WHEN GREEN LANE WAS TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS RESTAURANT AND
02:02:56PM I THINK THIS WAS THE MAJOR THEME OF THIS PRESENTATION.
02:02:58PM THE 8 FEET VERSUS 2 FEET WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE.
02:03:04PM HE DID EVERYTHING ELSE REQUIRED IN THE CODE AND REQUIRED BY
02:03:07PM THE PD.
02:03:08PM DRAFTED THE PLANS WITH AN 8-FOOT SETBACK.
02:03:12PM THE PLANS WERE APPROVED WITH THE 8-FOOT SETBACK.
02:03:14PM NOBODY CAUGHT THIS UNLESS CITY STAFF NOTICED IT IN THE
02:03:18PM SECOND READING -- OR SECOND REVIEW.
02:03:20PM AN HONEST MISTAKE.
02:03:21PM AND TWO-FEET DEAL THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS REALLY
02:03:25PM JUST THE WIDTH OF THIS COLUMN HERE.
02:03:28PM WE CAN'T MOVE THE WALL TWO FEET IN, PAUSE IF YOU WERE TO
02:03:33PM MOVE THE WALL TWO FEET IN, YOU WOULD MESS WITH THE TRAFFIC
02:03:36PM FLOW.
02:03:36PM AND IT WOULD BE UNSAFE FOR VEHICLES TO MAKE THIS TURN IN THE
02:03:41PM DRIVE THROUGH.
02:03:42PM SO WE CAN'T MOVE THE WALL THE TWO FEET IN.
02:03:44PM CERTAINLY, IF WE HAD CAUGHT THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WE
02:03:48PM COULD HAVE MOVED EVERYTHING TWO FEET.
02:03:51PM BUT WE CAN'T MOVE THE WALL AND LEAVE THE BUILDING WHERE IT
02:03:54PM IS.
02:03:54PM SO WE ARE JUST -- IT IS A MEA CULPA HEARING.
02:03:59PM WE ARE SORRY.
02:04:00PM WE WISH WE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THIS ON THE FRONT END AND DO
02:04:03PM SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
02:04:04PM BUT IT STANDS NOW, ALL WE HAVE IS TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS.
02:04:09PM IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS.
02:04:13PM CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE.
02:04:14PM IT IS AN ATTRACTIVE BUILDING.
02:04:17PM IT IS AN EXCITING CONCEPT.
02:04:19PM AND WE ASK FOR YOUR INDULGENCE ON THIS TWO-FEET ISSUE.
02:04:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL HURTAK.
02:04:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU PUT THE PHOTO BACK UP, AND IS THIS
02:04:28PM ALREADY BUILT?
02:04:29PM >> YES, ALREADY BUILT.
02:04:30PM THEY HAD A TEMPORARY C.O. AND THEY OPENED AND THEY HAD ROB
02:04:35PM GRONKOWSKI OUT THERE SERVING IN THE DRIVE-THRU LINE.
02:04:38PM AND EVERYBODY --
02:04:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE PART I WAS UNCLEAR ABOUT.
02:04:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:04:44PM ANYTHING ELSE?
02:04:46PM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
02:04:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME, PUBLIC COMMENT.
02:04:48PM IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK FROM THE PUBLIC, PLEASE COME UP
02:04:51PM AND STATE YOUR NAME.
02:04:52PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:05:00PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
02:05:03PM THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE WHY CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO REVIEW
02:05:09PM LAND USE ISSUES NO MATTER WHAT THAT GOOFY JUDGE HAS TO SAY.
02:05:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
02:05:13PM ANY STAFF?
02:05:15PM ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENT?
02:05:16PM WOULD YOU LIKE REBUTTAL, SIR.
02:05:18PM WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
02:05:19PM >> DITTO.
02:05:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DITTO MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
02:05:25PM CLENDENIN.
02:05:25PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:05:27PM THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
02:05:28PM WILL ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AT THIS TIME?
02:05:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
02:05:44PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION SUB-24-12 FOR PROPERTY AT 31215 NORTH
02:05:58PM DALE MABRY MABRY HIGHWAY.
02:06:00PM A NONSUBSTANTIAL CHANGE OF 27-138-7 FOR THE FOLLOWING
02:06:05PM REASONS.
02:06:05PM THE IMPACT IS DIMINIMUS -- I NOTICED IN THE PHOTOGRAPH THERE
02:06:10PM WAS ALREADY A MAJOR BILLBOARD THAT SEEMS TO BE IN THE SAME
02:06:13PM SETBACK AREA SO ALREADY AN OBSTRUCTION IN THE SETBACK.
02:06:16PM THAT THE -- THIS WAS A -- THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY AN OVERSIGHT OF
02:06:22PM THE APPLICANT AND THE STAFF THAT MOVED THIS TO THIS POINT
02:06:27PM FORWARD.
02:06:27PM AND THE IMPACT ON THE -- ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY
02:06:31PM IS DIMINIMUS.
02:06:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:06:37PM AND AN OVERTURNING OF THE DENIAL.
02:06:39PM ANY DISCUSSIONS?
02:06:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT GENERALLY I RESPECT
02:06:44PM AN OVERLAY AREA; HOWEVER, NO ONE FROM WEST SHORE IS HERE TO
02:06:51PM SAY THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
02:06:52PM SO I CAN SUPPORT THE OVERTURNING.
02:06:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:07:00PM NO, NO.
02:07:01PM JUST ENDLESS BAD NEWS.
02:07:03PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:07:04PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:07:05PM ALL RIGHT.
02:07:08PM IT HAS BEEN OVERTURNED.
02:07:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:07:35PM AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SHE HAD -- --
02:07:44PM PER REQUEST OF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, MR. ROGERO IS HERE.
02:07:47PM ITEMS 28, 3, 34 AND 55 ARE THE FIRST GROUP THAT HAVE BEEN
02:07:52PM PULLED.
02:07:52PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO START OFF THE
02:07:56PM DISCUSSION FOR THESE FOUR ITEMS AND THEN GO TO THE 40 AND
02:07:59PM 42.
02:07:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
02:08:00PM WHOOPS.
02:08:01PM FORGOT MY OWN RULE TO TURN ON THE LIGHT -- THE MICROPHONE.
02:08:05PM SO TODAY -- THE REASON I BROUGHT THESE FOUR FORWARD.
02:08:09PM THESE ARE FOUR RESOLUTIONS MOVING MONEY.
02:08:13PM THEY ARE MOVING -- THREE OF THEM ARE MOVING FROM PERSONNEL
02:08:18PM TO OPERATING.
02:08:19PM AND ONE OF THEM IS MOVING HALF MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND
02:08:23PM IN THE FRANCHISE FEE, THE ELECTRIC FRANCHISE FEE TO
02:08:28PM OPERATING EXPENSES.
02:08:29PM THE THING I WANTED TO TALK TO -- A, I WANTED COUNCIL TO KNOW
02:08:33PM THAT THIS -- THIS SEEMS TO BE THE BEGINNING OF SORT OF
02:08:39PM TRUEING UP OUR BUDGET TO SOME DEGREE; HOWEVER, I HAD MADE A
02:08:44PM MOTION FOR NOVEMBER, LOOKING AT ROLLOVER.
02:08:49PM AND MOVING MONEY NOW THAT MOST OF US WOULD EXPECT TO BE IN
02:08:53PM THE ROLLOVER CATEGORY IS OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO BE IN THE
02:09:00PM ROLLOVER CATEGORY THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET IN NOVEMBER.
02:09:03PM SO WHEN DOES THIS NORMAL TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM CATEGORIES
02:09:12PM WHERE IT WON'T BE USED INTO OTHER CATEGORIES WHERE IT WILL
02:09:15PM BE USED.
02:09:16PM WHEN DOES THAT NORMALLY BEGIN WITHIN A BUDGET CYCLE.
02:09:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
02:09:21PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
02:09:23PM IT CAN TAKE A COUPLE -- IT CAN HAPPEN IN A NUMBER OF
02:09:27PM DIFFERENT PERIODS.
02:09:28PM THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS ARE DONE BECAUSE THESE DEPARTMENTS
02:09:31PM HAVE -- I WON'T WANT TO SAY IMMEDIATE BUT NEED OF OPERATING
02:09:37PM OPPOSED TO THEIR PERSONNEL ACCOUNT.
02:09:38PM IDEALLY, AFTER WE CLOSE THE BOOKS OUT, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER,
02:09:43PM WE WILL BE ABLE TO -- YOU KNOW, AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, WE
02:09:46PM WILL BE ABLE TO SHOW COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND THE MAYOR,
02:09:49PM HERE IS WHERE WE ARE CLOSING THE BOOKS AND WHAT WE ARE
02:09:52PM ENDING UP WITH, COMPARED TO WHAT WE PROJECTED.
02:09:55PM WE WERE FORTUNATE IN THE PAST, AND WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE
02:09:59PM THIS YEAR, IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
02:10:01PM I THINK THAT -- I THINK THE DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD IS
02:10:04PM CENTERING AROUND -- AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T
02:10:06PM WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU.
02:10:07PM COUNCIL HAVING MORE INPUT INTO THAT AND AT AN EARLIER TIME.
02:10:12PM SO THESE WOULD BE -- I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM ANOMALIES,
02:10:15PM BUT TAKING THESE ACTIONS FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
02:10:18PM THEY HAVE THAT IMMINENT NEED FOR AN OPERATING EXPENSE.
02:10:21PM IT ALSO CANDIDLY IS BETTER OPTICS USING, FOR INSTANCE, THE
02:10:26PM FRANCHISE FEES THEN PULLING IT FROM FUND BALANCE.
02:10:31PM WE HAVE UNANTICIPATED.
02:10:32PM WE ARE MAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN FRANCHISE FEES THAN WE
02:10:36PM THOUGHT WE WOULD.
02:10:37PM MATCH THAT ANTICIPATED REVENUE TO THIS EXPENSE.
02:10:41PM FROM A LARGER PERSPECTIVE, I -- I AM INFERRING -- AND YOUR
02:10:45PM QUITE RIGHT.
02:10:46PM IF THESE OPERATING EXPENSE NEEDS DID NOT EXIST WOULD ROLL
02:10:53PM THE FUND BALANCE AND BE THE ACTUAL PROJECTION.
02:10:58PM DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
02:11:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, IT DOES.
02:11:01PM I WANT TO BRING TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.
02:11:02PM WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY IN A ROLLOVER REPORT, WE ARE NOT
02:11:06PM GOING TO GET WHAT THE FULL ROLLOVER WOULD BE.
02:11:08PM I WANTED FOLKS TO JUST UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS KIND OF WHAT
02:11:12PM WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW.
02:11:13PM WE ARE APPROVING THESE TRANSFERS.
02:11:15PM AND THAT IS THE WHOLE REASON I DIDN'T WANT THE DEPARTMENT
02:11:18PM HEADS TO BE HERE.
02:11:19PM I AM NOT FOCUSED ON THE ACTUAL TRANSFERS -- THE INDIVIDUAL
02:11:26PM TRAUMA BEHIND IT, I WANTED TO LOOK AND MAKE COUNCIL AWARE
02:11:30PM THAT, YES, THESE ARE THOSE CHANGES AT THE END OF THE YEAR
02:11:33PM THAT WE CAN BE IMPACTING NOT THAT WE CAN'T IMPACT ANY TIME,
02:11:37PM BUT THIS IS THE END OF YEAR POSSIBLE ROLLOVER BASS AND IT WE
02:11:41PM ARE ROLLING IT OVER BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
02:11:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: VERY GOOD WAY TO PUT IT.
02:11:45PM YES, MA'AM.
02:11:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE -- GOING FORWARD, I
02:11:49PM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THEN ALONG WITH THE NOVEMBER
02:11:53PM 21 REPORT ON ROLLOVER, I WOULD LIKE TO -- TO RECEIVE A LIST
02:11:59PM OF -- OF THESE MOVEMENTS FROM ONE EXPENSE ACCOUNT TO THE
02:12:07PM OTHER THAT -- THAT -- THAT ARE ACTUATING THIS TYPE OF
02:12:15PM MOVEMENT.
02:12:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
02:12:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY FROM NOW -- FROM THE BEGINNING OF
02:12:20PM SEPTEMBER UNTIL WE GET THAT ROLLOVER REPORT, WHERE DID THESE
02:12:24PM FUNDS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARY IN ONE PLACE MOVED TO ANOTHER
02:12:26PM THAT WON'T BE INCLUDED IN THE ROLLOVER?
02:12:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
02:12:31PM THAT WOULD -- IN OTHER WORDS, WOULD MITIGATE THE AMOUNT MUCH
02:12:34PM FUND BALANCE.
02:12:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
02:12:36PM I WANT US TO UNDERSTAND IT AND THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND IT A
02:12:39PM BIT MORE.
02:12:40PM I REALIZED WHEN I MADE THAT MOTION FOR NOVEMBER 21, I WASN'T
02:12:44PM GOING TO BE INCLUDING THESE TYPES OF CHANGES.
02:12:46PM WHEREAS AS -- AS STEWARDS OF THE BUDGET, WE SHOULD BE PAY BE
02:12:56PM MORE ATTENTION HOW THIS MOVES AROUND.
02:12:57PM I ASKED EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD WHEN THEY CALLED ME, DOES THIS
02:13:01PM MEAN YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN YOUR FY '25 BUDGET TO COVER
02:13:05PM THESE THINGS GOING FORWARD AND ALL HAVE ASSURED ME THEY DID.
02:13:09PM BUT, AGAIN, SOMETHING TO KIND OF BRING UP AND BRING FORWARD.
02:13:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APPRECIATE THAT AND IF I CAN ADD A LITTLE
02:13:15PM CONTEXT AND IN TALKING TO THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS ARE, HE
02:13:19PM WERE TALKING BEHIND THE SCENES ALSO, AND I THINK THEY ARE
02:13:22PM QUITE RIGHT.
02:13:22PM IN TOTAL, THEY HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING YET WE CAN'T MOVE FUNDING
02:13:28PM FROM PERSONNEL TO ACTION WITHOUT COUNCIL ACTION.
02:13:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:13:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THESE ARE WHAT WE CALL AT THE CLOSING.
02:13:34PM AM I CORRECT?
02:13:36PM IN A BIG BUSINESS, YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
02:13:39PM YOU LOOK AT THE BOOKS AND THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN.
02:13:42PM BUT AFTER YOU CLOSE, THE CLOSING -- WHAT HAPPENED TO TH
02:13:44PM MONEY SO WE CAN GET THE AFTER CLOSING -- WHERE ALL THE MONEY
02:13:48PM CAME FROM AND WHERE IT IS BEING SPENT.
02:13:49PM AND MAYBE MISS HAGAR CAN WORK WITH THE COUNCIL AND YOURSELF
02:13:56PM TO GET WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
02:13:58PM THAT'S IT.
02:13:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
02:14:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TO GO PACED ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT
02:14:03PM TUESDAY NIGHT.
02:14:04PM A BUDGET IS REALLY OUR PRIORITIES, AND I KNOW THAT SOME
02:14:08PM COUNCILMEMBERS ARE LOOKING FOR MONEY TO BE USED IN MANY
02:14:10PM DIFFERENT WAYS.
02:14:11PM I THOUGHT THAT BUT JUST SEEING THIS CAN HELP US GET A BETTER
02:14:19PM HANDLE OF THE END OF THE YEAR TO KEEP AN EYE FOR THE FUTURE.
02:14:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
02:14:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. SHELBY.
02:14:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
02:14:28PM [INAUDIBLE]
02:14:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DID.
02:14:32PM I MADE A MOTION TO --
02:14:40PM [INAUDIBLE]
02:14:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I AM SORRY, SO AFTER PEOPLE SPEAK, I
02:14:44PM WILL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT MOTION.
02:14:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOUR MICROPHONE.
02:14:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD WE NEED A
02:14:53PM BETTER MECHANISM OF BEING FLAGGED OF MAJOR CHANGES IN
02:14:57PM REVENUES.
02:14:57PM IF -- IF -- IF THE REVENUES IF, FOR EXAMPLE, A POT OF $5
02:15:04PM MILLION AND REVENUES ABOVE PROJECTIONS.
02:15:07PM IF THAT -- IF WE HAD -- WE HAD A DISCUSSION FOR TWO HOURS OR
02:15:11PM WHATEVER ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS THE OTHER NIGHT.
02:15:14PM IF THERE WAS $5 MILLION OR $10 MILLION OR MORE, WE WOULD
02:15:18PM WANT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY AND CITY COUNCIL DISCUSS IT.
02:15:21PM INSTEAD -- THIS IS EXAMINATION, BUT INSTEAD $100,000 LINE
02:15:26PM ITEM CHANGES AND NEVER SEEN THERE WAS $5 MILLION THERE.
02:15:30PM SOMEHOW WE NEED A BETTER WAY OF FLAGGING.
02:15:33PM NOT JUST THE TRANSACTIONS BUT WHAT IS THE CUMULATIVE TOTAL
02:15:40PM OF THE EXCESS AND WE SHOULD KNOW IN ADVANCE TO TELL THE
02:15:44PM COMMUNITY ABOUT IT.
02:15:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GIVE YOU THE BIG PICTURE.
02:15:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
02:15:51PM CARLSON SAID.
02:15:51PM PART OF THE PROBLEM.
02:15:53PM CLEARLY THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION
02:15:56PM IS ALWAYS YOU A WORK IN PROGRESS.
02:15:58PM AND, YOU KNOW, TURF PROTECTION AND TRUST AND COMMONSENSE
02:16:03PM ISSUES.
02:16:04PM THAT DOOR SWINGS BOTH WAYS, YOU KNOW, OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE.
02:16:07PM A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU SEE THINGS LIKE THIS, YOU WONDER --
02:16:12PM YOU WONDER OF TRANSPARENCY ISSUES AND SOMETHING -- A HIDDEN
02:16:16PM AGENDA.
02:16:17PM I THINK WITH REPORTS LIKE, I THINK IT WOULD ALLEVIATE THAT
02:16:21PM KIND OF -- YOU KNOW, THEIR CURIOSITY, LIKE, WHAT ARE THEY
02:16:25PM TRYING TO PULL.
02:16:25PM THAT KIND OF -- THAT -- YOU KNOW, THAT LINGERS IN THE BACK
02:16:30PM OF THE MIND WHEN YOU SEE THESE KIND OF THINGS.
02:16:32PM WE ARE -- WE DON'T -- WE ARE NOT IN -- IN THE TRENCHES 40
02:16:37PM HOURS A WEEK OR 60 HOURS A WEEK LIKE YOU GUYS ARE.
02:16:42PM WE TIP OUR TOES IN IT AND THEN PULL IT BACK OUT.
02:16:46PM IT IS DIFFICULT FOR US TO KEEP UP AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU
02:16:49PM GUYS ARE ACTUALLY DOING.
02:16:50PM THANK YOU.
02:16:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN RESPOND.
02:16:53PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:16:54PM I THINK I AM PRETTY CLEAR OF THE PHILOSOPHY AND THE INTENT.
02:16:58PM I JUST WROTE IT DOWN.
02:16:59PM PROBABLY THE BIGGEST QUESTION RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS THE BEST
02:17:02PM MECHANISM?
02:17:03PM IF YOU LET US EXPERIMENT AND PROVIDE DRAFTS OF THE BEST
02:17:09PM RECOMMENDATIONS.
02:17:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU WANT TO MAKE A
02:17:13PM MOTION.
02:17:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND MY
02:17:18PM MOTION -- SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE DATE WHEN I MADE THE MOTION,
02:17:22PM BUT A MOTION FOR NOVEMBER 21, THAT WOULD NOT ONLY BRING THE
02:17:25PM ROLLOVER BUT RECEIVE A LISTING OF ALL OF THIS TYPE -- OF ALL
02:17:33PM OF THE MOVEMENT FROM ONE -- ONE LINE ITEM TO ANOTHER FOR
02:17:39PM THESE TYPES OF PURPOSES, FOR -- MISS COPESKY, CAN YOU HEL
02:17:46PM ME WORD THAT?
02:17:48PM I CAN SEE YOU THINKING ABOUT IT IN YOUR HEAD.
02:17:50PM IF YOU CAN, FEEL FREE TO COME UP.
02:17:52PM BUT BASICALLY, I AM THINKING OF MOVING FROM ONE BUCKET OF
02:17:57PM MONEY TO ANOTHER BUCKET.
02:17:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAN I TRY?
02:18:02PM PERHAPS A LIST -- I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO BEGIN IN MONTH, A
02:18:06PM LIST OF FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS THAT WOULD REDUCE THE
02:18:09PM ANTICIPATED -- SORRY, REDUCE THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCE FOR
02:18:13PM FISCAL 2024.
02:18:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS PERFECT.
02:18:17PM DID YOU GET THAT?
02:18:18PM THAT IS THE AMENDED MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.
02:18:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SORRY, IF I CAN SAY ONE THING.
02:18:25PM THERE IS A CHANCE GOING BY FISCAL YEAR 23 ACE EXPERIENCE.
02:18:32PM WE DID NOT HAVE THE BOOKS ENTIRELY CLOSED UNTIL THE END OF
02:18:35PM NOVEMBER.
02:18:35PM SO RATHER THAN BRING YOU A REQUEST -- A POTENTIAL REQUEST
02:18:39PM FOR CONTINUANCE, WOULD DECEMBER BE ACCEPTABLE.
02:18:43PM >> I WILL KEEP IT AT NOVEMBER 21.
02:18:45PM IF YOU NEED TO CONTINUE IT, THAT WILL BE ABSOLUTELY FINE
02:18:47PM WITH ME AND LET YOUR OFFICE KNOW AS SOON AS I KNOW.
02:18:50PM THAT IS GENERALLY AND KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER.
02:18:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
02:18:53PM IS THERE A SECOND?
02:18:54PM >> SECOND.
02:18:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:18:57PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:18:57PM OPPOSED.
02:18:58PM DOES THIS CONCLUDE THE DISCUSSION OF THE GROUP OF FOUR OR
02:19:01PM JUST NUMBER ONE?
02:19:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE GROUP OF 4.
02:19:03PM I HAVE ONE MORE BECAUSE I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT
02:19:05PM UP A REALLY GOOD POINT OF SOMETHING WE DIDN'T CONSIDER.
02:19:08PM ALSO IN THAT NOVEMBER 21 MEETING WHICH, IF YOU NEED TO MOVE
02:19:14PM FORWARD, WE -- YOU WILL LET ME KNOW.
02:19:16PM I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO ALSO LOOK AT OUR REVENUE.
02:19:22PM ALL OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES, WHAT WENT UP AND WHAT WENT DOWN.
02:19:27PM ONLY A FINITE NUMBER OF REVENUE SOURCES.
02:19:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
02:19:34PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CLARIFICATION, PROSPECTIVE --
02:19:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT HAPPENED IN '24.
02:19:39PM WE WILL STICK WITH '24 FOR ALL OF THESE MOTIONS SO THAT WAY
02:19:43PM THEY CAN TRAVEL TOGETHER AND IF THEY NEED TO BE CONTINUED,
02:19:46PM LET ME KNOW.
02:19:46PM THAT IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
02:19:48PM FROM THERE, WE CAN CONSIDER WHEN WE GET THAT INFORMATION ON
02:19:52PM AN ANNUAL BASIS WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND.
02:19:57PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:19:59PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED.
02:20:01PM AT THIS TIME, I AM GOING TO THROUGH ITEMS ONE BY ONE.
02:20:04PM ITEM NUMBER 20 IN YOUR COMMITTEE.
02:20:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I AM -- I AM GOING TO MOVE -- YES, I
02:20:11PM WILL MOVE ITEM -- I MOVE ITEM 28.
02:20:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
02:20:14PM ITEM NUMBER 28 OF WHAT WAS PULLED.
02:20:17PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:20:18PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:20:19PM ANY OPPOSED?
02:20:21PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVE ITEMS 3.
02:20:25PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:20:27PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:20:28PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:20:29PM ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS ITEM NUMBER 34.
02:20:33PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:20:35PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:20:37PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:20:37PM AND THE LAST ITEM OF THIS BUNCH IS UNDER THE COUNCILWOMAN
02:20:49PM HENDERSON.
02:20:49PM ITEM NUMBER 55.
02:20:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND
02:20:57PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:20:58PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:20:59PM OPPOSED?
02:21:01PM NEXT GROUP.
02:21:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:21:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAITING FOR COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TO COME
02:21:08PM BACK FOR ITEM NUMBER 42.
02:21:09PM THAT IS COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:21:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEXT ITEM STAFF REPORTS.
02:21:34PM 70 IS DONE.
02:21:36PM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT TO REPORT
02:21:39PM ON THE STATUS OF PROPERTY FLEET MAINTENANCE BY FIRE STATION
02:21:43PM 24.
02:21:43PM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM CHIEF TRIPP TO GIVE A VERBAL REPORT, BUT
02:21:52PM I DON'T SEE HER HERE.
02:21:53PM NEXT UP WE HAVE TPD, CHIEF BERCAW OR A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA
02:21:57PM IMPLEMENT WHICH WE HAVE SEVERAL FOR ITEM NUMBER 27 REGARDING
02:22:02PM A SAFETY AND SECURITY PLAN FOR YBOR CITY THAT WILL COMPLY
02:22:05PM WITH THE CRA FUNDING.
02:22:07PM ALL RIGHT, TPD WAS HERE.
02:22:16PM >> MR. MICHELINI HAD MADE A -- A RECOMMENDATION THAT, AS I
02:22:23PM UNDERSTOOD IT.
02:22:24PM TO BE ABLE TO USE CRA FUNDING FOR SECURITY, WE HAD TO GO
02:22:28PM THROUGH A SECURITY PLAN AND THING WAS JUST AN UPDATE ON WHAT
02:22:32PM THE STATUS OF THIS IS IF WE MET THE QUALIFICATION AND
02:22:42PM THE RRA.
02:22:42PM >>CHIEF CATE: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:22:44PM MAYOR CHIEF CATE AND MAJOR DeFELICE FROM THE TAMPA
02:22:53PM DEPARTMENT.
02:22:53PM I WILL LET MAJOR DeFELICE TALK.
02:22:58PM WE WANT SAFETY FOR THE WHOLE CITY AND FOCUSSING THIS PART
02:23:02PM JUST FOR YBOR.
02:23:03PM >>MAJOR DeFELICE: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:23:07PM WE ARE HERE TO GO OVER THE YBOR SAFETY AND SECURITY PLAN AND
02:23:11PM THE DISCUSSION OF THE HISTORY OF THE DEPLOYMENT FOR THAT
02:23:12PM AREA HISTORICALLY THE YBOR DISTRICT HAS SEEN AN INCREASE IN
02:23:19PM NIGHT LIFE PARTICULARLY IN THE WEEK ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY
02:23:30PM WE HAVE SQUADS OFTEN THE WEEKEND TO DISCUSS THE INCIDENTS
02:23:32PM THAT GO ON IN YBOR CITY.
02:23:40PM MONITORING AS A WHOLE AND M.O.T. FOR TRAFFIC AND CLOSING MAN
02:23:44PM TO GET THE PATRONS OUT OF YBOR CITY WHEN IT WAS DONE EVENTS
02:23:53PM THAT TOOK PLACE OCTOBER 29 FOR THE NEED OF --
02:23:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET THE TV CAMERA ON
02:24:03PM MAYOR DeFELICE SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE HIM.
02:24:05PM WE HAVE NO SIGNAL.
02:24:06PM CAN YOU SEE YOURSELF ON YOUR SCREEN, SIR?
02:24:10PM >>MAJOR DeFELICE: NO, SIR.
02:24:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN SEE -- OKAY.
02:24:28PM >>MAJOR DeFELICE: THERE IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF --
02:24:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE YOU GO.
02:24:32PM >>MAJOR DeFELICE: A TECH WIZARD.
02:24:33PM SAFETY AND SECURITY PLAN IS ALSO UNDER CONSTANT REVIEW
02:24:38PM LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES AND WHAT IS GOING TO WORK.
02:24:41PM AND AFTER THE 29th TRAGEDY AND TO ENHANCE THE SAFETY AND
02:24:50PM SECURITY OF THAT AREA.
02:24:51PM AND IN THE SHORT TERM, WE INUNDATED THE AREA WITH OFFICERS
02:24:56PM OF THE TRUST AND CALM AND MAKE SURE THAT SECURITY AND SAFETY
02:25:00PM WAS STORED IN THAT AREA.
02:25:01PM WE WENT AND CONDUCTED A SITE VISIT TO ORLANDO WHICH HAS A
02:25:05PM SIMILAR DOWNTOWN AREA THAT MIRRORS OURS AND LOOKED TO SEE
02:25:09PM WHAT THEIR BEST PRACTICES WERE.
02:25:10PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OFF -- OFF OF THAT WAS THE
02:25:14PM MAJORITY OF THE UNITS THAT THEY USED ARE OFF-DUTY UNIT.
02:25:18PM THEY ARE NOT USING ON-DUTY RESOURCES AND ADOPTED THAT MODEL
02:25:23PM AS WELL.
02:25:23PM WE UPDATED OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY PLAN.
02:25:25PM WE NOW USE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF OFF DUTY RESOURCES THAT
02:25:29PM COME IN TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE ALREADY UNITS THAT ARE
02:25:34PM WORKING IN AREA.
02:25:35PM IT ADDRESSES SAFETY VIA AN INCREASE OF POLICE PRESENCE,
02:25:41PM PROACTIVE PATROL, AND ADDITIONAL OPERATIONS THAT GO ON IN
02:25:45PM THE AREA TO DETER THE CRIME.
02:25:48PM THAT INCREASED PRESENCE, WHEN PEOPLE SEE THAT, ONLY 7th
02:25:53PM AVENUE SURROUNDING AREA DETERS PEOPLE FROM WANTING TO COME
02:25:57PM IN THAT DISTRICT WANTING TO DO BAD THINGS.
02:25:59PM WE DISCUSSED THE NEED FOR PARTNERS.
02:26:01PM WHAT WE DID, WE LOOKED AT OUR AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND
02:26:05PM PARTNERED WITH OTHER CITY ENTITIES THAT INCLUDE TAMPA FIRE
02:26:09PM RESCUE.
02:26:09PM WE HAVE BIKE MEDIC ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT.
02:26:13PM THEY ARE ABLE TO CUT THROUGH THE TRAFFIC AND MANDEL MEDICAL
02:26:16PM CALLS FOR SERVICE MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN BEFORE.
02:26:20PM WE UTILIZE THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THAT IS THE KEY IN OCCUPANCY
02:26:24PM OF SOME OF THE CLUBS AND ESTABLISHMENTS THAT MAY BE GOING
02:26:26PM OVER AND CAUSING A PROBLEM TO THE OVERALL FLIGHT IN THE
02:26:30PM AREA.
02:26:30PM AND WE US WILL CODE ENFORCEMENT.
02:26:33PM CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES OUT WITH US ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
02:26:36PM THEY ARE WITH US AND THEY USUALLY HAVE TWO OFFICERS AS WELL
02:26:39PM AS A SUPERVISOR THAT COME OUT AND LOOKING AT ANY AND ALL
02:26:43PM CODE VIOLATIONS WHICH KEEP THE BUSINESSES OPERATING
02:26:45PM PROPERLY.
02:26:45PM ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE HAVE SEEN ARE QUEUE LINES AND
02:26:49PM WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE SIDEWALK SPACE IS TAKEN UP
02:26:53PM BY AN UNRULY LINE AND MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR PATRONS TO PASS
02:26:56PM THROUGH SINCE WE DO KEEP THE ROADS OPEN AS LONG AS WE CAN
02:26:59PM NOW.
02:26:59PM ALSO THE YES TEAM.
02:27:01PM THE YES TEAM IS INSTRUMENTAL DOWN THERE TO HIGHLIGHT THEIR
02:27:11PM IMPORTANCE.
02:27:11PM A LOT OF THE CONCERNS ARE QUALITY OF LIFE DRIVEN.
02:27:15PM WE HAD A GRAFFITI ARTIST DOWN THERE.
02:27:18PM AND A LARGER UNDERWORLD TO THAT AND TAGGING A LOT OF PLACES
02:27:22PM IN YBOR CITY CONTRIBUTING TO OVERALL BLIGHT.
02:27:25PM ABLE TO UTILIZE ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE YES TEAM MEMBERS
02:27:29PM WITH THE INFORMATION THEY HAD AND ABLE TO SOLVE A CRIME BY
02:27:33PM GIVING US VALUABLE INFORMATION THAT LED TO THE IDENTITY OF
02:27:35PM ONE OF THOSE PERPETRATORS.
02:27:37PM WHEN I SAY WHY THAT IS A BIG DEAL, IT IS BECAUSE HE WAS 15
02:27:43PM -- ABOUT 15 OF THE TAGGING INCIDENTS WERE ATTRIBUTED TO HIM
02:27:50PM BECAUSE THEY USE UNIQUE MONIKERS AND 15 TO HIM AND EIGHT
02:27:55PM CLOSURES WITH ANOTHER PERSON ARRESTED FOR IT.
02:27:57PM SO WE SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE UTILIZATION OF OUR CITY
02:28:01PM ENTITIES COMING TOGETHER AND WORKING COLLABORATIVELY HAVE
02:28:05PM SEEN AND PAID DIVIDENDS IN THAT DISTRICT.
02:28:08PM WE PLAN TO INCREASE THE CAMERA SYSTEM AND TECHNOLOGY IN THE
02:28:11PM DISTRICT, WHICH IS GOING TO TAKE OUR NUMBER OF CAMERAS AND
02:28:14PM ESSENTIALLY TRIPLE IT.
02:28:20PM PROVIDE FOR GREATER COVERAGE.
02:28:21PM OUR RTTC CAN MONITOR THAT AREA AND SEE THINGS BEFORE THEY
02:28:26PM HAPPEN.
02:28:26PM IF THINGS DON'T LOOK RIGHT, THEY ARE ABLE TO LET OFFICERS
02:28:29PM KNOW THAT IT IS A PLACE THAT OFFICERS ARE NOT CURRENTLY
02:28:33PM STANDING OR PATROLLING AND THEY ARE ABLE TO ALERT THEM TO
02:28:36PM IT, AS WELL AS IT LET'S US GET MORE EVIDENCE.
02:28:38PM SO WHEN CRIMES DO OCCUR, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLAY TAPES
02:28:42PM BACK, GET THAT VIDEO SURVEILLANCE WHICH LEADS TO HIGHER
02:28:45PM CLOSURE RATES FOR CRIMES THAT ARE COMMITTED IN THE AREA CRA
02:28:52PM FUNDING.
02:28:53PM CURRENTLY THE CRA FUNDS $250,000 AND CONTRIBUTE THAT TO THE
02:28:57PM OFFICERS THAT WORK IN AN OFF-DUTY CAPACITY TO COME IN WHEN
02:29:03PM THEY ARE NOT WORKING.
02:29:04PM WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE TECHNOLOGY, CAMERAS, ETC., NOISE
02:29:07PM DETECTION EQUIPMENT TO HELP BOLSTER WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
02:29:11PM ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE IN PLACE
02:29:13PM IS THAT IT IS UPSCALABLE MEANING WE CAN ADD THINGS TO DO IT
02:29:22PM OPPOSED TO BUYING EQUIPMENT AND DOWN THE LINE HAVING TO
02:29:25PM REPLACE THE EQUIPMENT.
02:29:25PM WE CAN UPGRADE IT VERY EASILY AND ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF
02:29:29PM HAVING THAT.
02:29:29PM WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE FUNDING FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT
02:29:33PM AND TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO HAVE THEM DOWN THERE ON A MORE
02:29:36PM FREQUENT AND REGULAR BASIS.
02:29:37PM ALSO LOOKING TO EXPAND THE YES TEAM.
02:29:45PM THE VALUE THEY PROVIDE DOWN THERE BEING AMBASSADORS.
02:29:49PM THEY ARE EYES AND EARS AND ACT AS WE WOULD SEEING THINGS AND
02:29:52PM BEING ABLE TO REPORT IT TO US QUICKER THAT WILL ALLOW US TO
02:29:57PM HAVE A QUICKER RESPONSE.
02:29:58PM THE OVERALL SAFETY AND SECURITY PLAN.
02:30:01PM AND WE ARE PREPARED TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
02:30:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE
02:30:06PM STAFF REPORTS.
02:30:06PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:30:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD.
02:30:09PM MR. MICHELINI WAS THE ONE THAT ASKED FOR THIS.
02:30:11PM I WONDER IF WE CAN ASK HIM IF THIS ANSWERS HIS QUESTION THAT
02:30:15PM HE HAD THAT MEETS THAT CRITERIA.
02:30:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WILL BE DONE OFF-SITE --
02:30:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
02:30:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: REQUEST FOR MICHELINI.
02:30:34PM I AM FINE WITH THAT.
02:30:35PM IT IS YOUR MOTION.
02:30:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK -- THE IDEA OF THIS
02:30:41PM CAME FROM MR. MICHELINI.
02:30:41PM I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS THAT HE HAD
02:30:44PM RELATED TO THIS.
02:30:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:30:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY DIDN'T SAY YES OR NO.
02:30:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:30:52PM OPPOSED?
02:30:53PM ALL RIGHT, MR. MICHELINI.
02:30:54PM DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
02:30:56PM DOES THIS SATISFY THE --
02:31:00PM >> I THINK -- THE QUESTION RELATED TO THE CRA FUNDING.
02:31:03PM AND WHEN WE MET WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AND MAYOR DeFELICE,
02:31:13PM WOULD APPRECIATE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE ACTIVITIES HE
02:31:16PM JUST OUTLINED.
02:31:17PM TO GET CRA FUNDING, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A FINDING FROM CITY
02:31:21PM COUNCIL AND REFER IT TO THE CRA FOR THAT REQUEST TO BE
02:31:23PM CONSIDERED.
02:31:24PM AND THAT -- THAT IS WHAT -- THAT IS WHY IT WAS BROUGHT TO
02:31:27PM THE CITY COUNCIL FIRST.
02:31:29PM AND SO, YES, THIS -- THE -- THE ACTION PLAN HE LAID OUT, I
02:31:38PM THINK QUALIFIES WHAT THE CITY REQUIRES TO REFER IT OVER TO
02:31:42PM CRA FOR CONSIDERATION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
02:31:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD.
02:31:45PM DOES ANYBODY FROM LEGAL OR STAFF KNOW -- MR. MASSEY, DO YOU
02:31:49PM KNOW WHAT FORM THAT WOULD TAKE?
02:31:52PM DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF MOTION WE NEED TO MAKE?
02:31:56PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:31:59PM WHAT THE CRA STATUTE, THAT THE CRA CAN FUND COMMUNITY
02:32:03PM POLICING ACTIVITIES.
02:32:04PM AND COMMUNITY POLICING ACTIVITIES ARE DEFINED IN THE STATUTE
02:32:07PM AS -- AS TPD TYPE OF ACTIVITIES NOT PRIVATE SECURITY TYPE OF
02:32:13PM ACTIVITIES.
02:32:13PM INCREASED SECURITY OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WOULD NORMAL ALLEY BE
02:32:17PM PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:32:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOES CITY COUNCIL NEED TO MAKE A MOTION?
02:32:23PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPROVE A PLAN
02:32:26PM PROPOSED BY TPD.
02:32:28PM YOU ALREADY PROVIDING -- THE CRA IS ALREADY PROVIDING
02:32:31PM $250,000 FOR YBOR 1 FOR COMMUNITY POLICING EFFORTS.
02:32:37PM IF THAT PLAN REQUIRES ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND IF THERE IS
02:32:42PM ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR YBOR 1 AND 2, WE CAN LOOK TO AMEND
02:32:46PM THE BUDGET AND PROVIDING ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT THOSE
02:32:49PM POLICIES.
02:32:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:32:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I AM NOT AGAINST
02:32:55PM THIS AT ALL.
02:32:55PM BUT THE SAME SEVEN MEMBERS SERVE AS CITY COUNCIL SERVE AS
02:33:00PM THE CRA.
02:33:01PM IF WE ASK THEM -- OR THE CRA SUPPOSED TO ASK US.
02:33:07PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CITY COUNCIL HAS TO BLESS THE PLAN THAT
02:33:12PM THE TPD BROUGHT FORWARD.
02:33:13PM ONCE YOU BLESS THE PLAN, WE HAVE TO COST OUT HOW MUCH IT
02:33:17PM WILL COST TO IMPLEMENT IT.
02:33:17PM IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FUNDING REQUIRED, THAT REQUEST, ONCE
02:33:21PM THE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED BY Y'ALL'S COUNCIL, IT CAN MOVE
02:33:24PM FORWARD TO THE CRA FOR THAT FUNDING REQUEST.
02:33:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR THEM TO ASK US WHEN WE SIT AT THE CRA
02:33:30PM BOARD?
02:33:31PM >> LET ME JUST MAKE ONE STATEMENT TO BE CLEAR.
02:33:33PM THIS WAS NOT FOR PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
02:33:36PM THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE YBOR CITY DISTRICT.
02:33:39PM THAT HAS AWAY I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
02:33:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, MAKE A MOTION TO THE
02:33:44PM EFFECT OF WHAT MR. MASSEY DISCUSSED?
02:33:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
02:33:47PM MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLAN -- THE -- WHAT WAS IT, THE PUBLIC
02:33:54PM SAFETY PLAN PRESENTED --
02:33:56PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: COMMUNITY POLICING PLAN.
02:33:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: APPROVE THE COMMUNITY POLICING PLAN
02:34:00PM PRESENTED BY TPD AND REQUEST THE -- THE CRA BOARD AND STAFF
02:34:04PM TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING IT WITH FUNDING.
02:34:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THE TWO NAMES OF THE
02:34:14PM POLICE OFFICERS MAYOR DeFELICE AND DEPUTY CHIEF CATE.
02:34:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS PRESENTED BY THE TWO POLICE OFFICERS.
02:34:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO DIVIDE IT INTO TWO.
02:34:24PM ONE TO APPROVE THE PLAN AND THE SECOND FOR THE CRA FUNDING.
02:34:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION -- WITHDRAW THE OTHER MOTION.
02:34:30PM MOTION TO APPROVE --
02:34:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DIVIDE THE QUESTION AND HAVE IT AS TWO
02:34:34PM DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.
02:34:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION TO APPROVE THE COMMUNITY POLICING
02:34:38PM PLAN FOR YBOR AS PRESENTED BY THE TWO OFFICERS TODAY.
02:34:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:34:43PM SAME FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:34:45PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:34:46PM OPPOSED?
02:34:47PM NOW THE CRA.
02:34:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN'T OBLIGATE THE CRA BUT JUST ASK.
02:34:52PM MOTION TO ASK THE CRA BOARD TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS PLAN
02:34:56PM WITH FUNDING.
02:34:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
02:34:59PM CARLSON.
02:34:59PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
02:35:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
02:35:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:35:03PM OPPOSED IN.
02:35:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NAY.
02:35:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NAY.
02:35:12PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MAY I SUGGEST NOW THAT THE PLAN HAS BEEN
02:35:14PM APPROVED FOR TPD TO COME BEFORE THE CRA BOARD WITH DETAILS
02:35:19PM ABOUT WHAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING MAY BE REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT A
02:35:23PM PLAN AND THEN THE CRA CAN ACT UPON THAT AT THAT TIME.
02:35:26PM THAT MAY BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE WAY TO HANDLE THIS.
02:35:29PM JUST A SUGGESTION.
02:35:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN JUST MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT.
02:35:32PM WE CAN DRILL INTO ALL OF THIS AND HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON
02:35:36PM ANOTHER DAY.
02:35:36PM AND I APPRECIATE.
02:35:38PM I KNOW THE OFFICER ARE AVAILABLE OFF LINE TO TALK TO US AS
02:35:42PM WELL.
02:35:42PM THE REASON -- ONE REASON TO CONSIDER MORE FUND IN YBOR, A
02:35:47PM CONCERN OF PLACES LIKE SOUTH HOWARD THAT LIMITED RESOURCE
02:35:50PM BEING MOVED FROM ONE AREA TO THE OTHER.
02:35:52PM IF WE ARE ABLE TO BETTER COVER MULTIPLE AREAS OF THE CITY AT
02:35:56PM THE SAME TIME WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND THE FEELING IN
02:36:02PM YBOR IS SO DESPERATE THAT THE GROUP OF BUSINESS OWNERS
02:36:06PM LOBBIED THE STATE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO DO THIS.
02:36:08PM WE WILL SEE WHAT THE STATE COMES FORWARD WITH.
02:36:11PM IF WE CAN DO OUR BEST WITH TPD BECAUSE OUR FOLKS ARE THERE
02:36:14PM EVERY DAY AND KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THE ISSUES.
02:36:17PM THANK YOU.
02:36:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. MASSEY.
02:36:19PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, MA'AM.
02:36:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE LENGTH OF TIME BEFORE THE YBOR 1 SUNSETS.
02:36:25PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE POLICE.
02:36:27PM 2041.
02:36:28PM LITTLE AFTER THE 2034 THAT MOST OF THE OTHERS LAPSE.
02:36:33PM THEY GO LATER.
02:36:34PM FIVE TO SIX YEARS.
02:36:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, SO -- SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO
02:36:38PM LOOK AT WHILE I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND WE CAN
02:36:45PM ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
02:36:47PM WHILE ADDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
02:36:50PM START HAVING THE CONVERSATION WHAT HAPPENS WIN THAT FUNDING
02:36:53PM DISAPPEARS.
02:36:53PM ANY TIME YOU ADD ANYTHING ADDITIONAL, PEOPLE EXPECT IT.
02:36:57PM SO HOW WE DO THAT GOING FORWARD IS OF MAJOR CONCERN TO ME.
02:37:02PM NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED THAT.
02:37:03PM WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD FOR THE CITY?
02:37:08PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT'S CORRECT.
02:37:08PM ONE OTHER THING AND MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE CRA BOARD MEMBER.
02:37:11PM AMOUNT OF TIF DOLLARS FROM YBOR 1 AND 2 IS MUCH MORE LIMITED
02:37:16PM THAN A LOT OF THE OTHER CRAs.
02:37:19PM YOU GOT OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING LIKE THE REBRICKING
02:37:23PM OF 7th.
02:37:24PM OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE MAY HAVE -- WITH YOU ALL AS
02:37:28PM POLICYMAKERS MAY HAVE TO WEIGH WHERE YOU WANT THE DOLLARS TO
02:37:32PM GO.
02:37:32PM BECAUSE THERE IS A LIMIT ON HOW MUCH TIF DOLLARS WE HAVE
02:37:36PM AVAILABLE IN THOSE AREAS.
02:37:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:37:39PM THAT CONCLUDES EVERYTHING, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
02:37:43PM ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO BACK TO 40 AND 42.
02:37:45PM ITEMS PULLED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR DISCUSSION.
02:37:48PM >> MR. MANISCALCO, CAN I ADD ONE THING.
02:37:52PM OUR COMMITMENT TO SAFETY AND SECURITY AND LET YOU KNOW THAT
02:37:58PM WE HAVE A TOWN HALL TUESDAY COMING UP CENTRO ESTURIANO.
02:38:05PM IF ANYBODY FROM CITY COUNCIL OR PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COME,
02:38:09PM ALL T PD STAFF WILL BE THERE.
02:38:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
02:38:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
02:38:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW IF THE FIRE ITEM WAS SUPPOSED TO
02:38:16PM COME -- BECAUSE CHIEF TRIPP --
02:38:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THESE ITEMS ARE BEFORE.
02:38:20PM WE ONLY MOVED THEM OUT BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WAS OUT
02:38:23PM OF THE ROOM.
02:38:23PM WE WILL GO TO 40 AND 42.
02:38:25PM YES, MA'AM.
02:38:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:38:26PM THE REASON I PULLED 40 AND 42, IS -- THEY KIND OF GO
02:38:30PM TOGETHER.
02:38:31PM THEY ARE BOTH LEASE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CITY
02:38:46PM OF TAMPA UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA THE CITY OWNS PROPERTY
02:38:48PM SURROUNDED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:38:49PM AND WE LEASE IT TO THEM.
02:38:50PM APPEAR THIS NEW -- AND THAT HAS HAPPENED FOR 50 YEARS, AND
02:38:55PM THE NEW LEASE THAT HAS COME UP -- IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE
02:38:58PM DATE OF THE AMENDMENT.
02:38:59PM THE TEN,T.
02:39:04PM THE FIRST PAGE OF THE RENEWAL OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
02:39:07PM ONE YEAR, TENANT MAY ELECT TO TAKE FEE TITLE TO THE PREMISE
02:39:13PM BY PROVIDING WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE LANDLORD.
02:39:15PM UPON SENTENCE OF SUCH NOTICE BY THE LANDLORD, LANDLORD WILL
02:39:21PM CONVEY THE PREMISES TO THE TENANT FOR NO ADDITIONAL
02:39:26PM CONSIDERATION.
02:39:26PM WHICH MEANS NO MONEY.
02:39:28PM SO I -- NOWHERE IN THIS LEASE AGREEMENT SAY WHAT WE ARE
02:39:32PM GETTING IN RETURN FOR THIS.
02:39:33PM SO MY CONCERN, FIRST OF ALL, IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH
02:39:36PM THIS PROPERTY IS WORTH GIVING AWAY SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T
02:39:40PM KNOW WHAT IS WORTH.
02:39:42PM I WANTED TO ASK STAFF IF AN APPRAISAL HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS
02:39:46PM PROPERTY.
02:39:46PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF
02:39:53PM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
02:39:55PM IF I MAY FOR JUST A MOMENT KIND OF GIVE A FORM OF THE TWO
02:39:59PM LEASE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU IN RELATION TO THE
02:40:02PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
02:40:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE FIRST TALK OF THE FIRST ONE.
02:40:08PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AN APPRAISAL WAS NOT DONE.
02:40:10PM BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE PROPERTY, THE HOLE IN THE DOUGHNUT.
02:40:13PM THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT McKAY AUDITORIUM IS LOCATED
02:40:18PM ON.
02:40:18PM THE AUDITORIUM BURNT DOWN IN THE EARLY 1990s AND THE
02:40:22PM UNIVERSITY REBUILT IT AT THEIR FULL COST OF, I BELIEVE IT
02:40:26PM WAS UPWARDS OF $10 MILLION.
02:40:32PM THEY HAVE OWNED, OPERATED AND MAINTAINED THAT FACILITY.
02:40:35PM NOT A CITY BUILDING.
02:40:36PM IT IS CITY LAND, BUT THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN THEIR BUILDING
02:40:40PM FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS.
02:40:42PM IN RELATION TO THE LEASE, THERE HAVE BEEN A 50-YEAR LEASE.
02:40:51PM A LEASE -- WE WERE JUST LAUGHING ABOUT AT LUNCH, IN EFFECT
02:40:55PM BEFORE MANY OF US WERE BORN.
02:40:57PM AND IT CAME UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT THE LEASE WAS
02:41:00PM APPROACHING ITS EXPIRATION.
02:41:03PM AND MUCH LIKE HOW WE DISCUSSED NEXT THIS MORNING, WE ENTERED
02:41:07PM INTO NEXT WITH THE UNIVERSITY.
02:41:13PM IT WAS REBECCA JOHNS AND MYSELF TO GO TO THE TABLE WITH
02:41:16PM THEM.
02:41:16PM AND WE TALKED ABOUT NOT ONLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN 50 YEARS,
02:41:20PM BUT WHERE WE ARE GOING IN THE NEXT 50 YEARS.
02:41:22PM BECAUSE IS THIS REALLY WAS DEALING WITH MORE THAN JUST
02:41:31PM McKAY.
02:41:32PM IT WAS DEALING WITH PLANT PARK, THAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK
02:41:36PM ABOUT ALSO, AND OUR NEEDS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER.
02:41:38PM OUR NEEDS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER WITH THE CITY AND
02:41:42PM THE BUILD GRANT AND THE FOURTH RIVERWALK.
02:41:44PM ONLY A PART OF THAT RIVERFRONT IS IN PLANT PARK, IT WHICH IS
02:41:48PM A HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED PARK.
02:41:53PM THE OTHER FRONT IS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY.
02:41:56PM WE NEEDED AN EASEMENT FROM THEM.
02:41:58PM AN EASEMENT LARGER THAN THE EASEMENTS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN
02:42:01PM ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE BUILD GRANT AND THE DESIGN FOR
02:42:04PM THE WEST RIVERWALK.
02:42:05PM THOSE WERE SOME OF OUR PRIORITIES IN THE DISCUSSIONS THE
02:42:14PM LAST PART OF THAT DISCUSSION IS A DAWN TO DOES PROGRAM
02:42:17PM VISION --
02:42:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO GET TO THAT.
02:42:19PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ALL OF THE PIECES WORK TOGETHER.
02:42:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GO BACK TO 42 BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR
02:42:26PM DIRECTOR OF PARK BEFORE I GET TO YOU.
02:42:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO TO GET TO 42, THE LEASE FOR PLANT PARK AND
02:42:35PM WE OWN.
02:42:35PM AND THE CITY AND THE UNIVERSITY HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF FOR
02:42:39PM YEARS.
02:42:40PM SO THIS WOULD CONVEY THE ABILITY FOR THE UNIVERSITY TO
02:42:47PM CONTINUE TO USE THE -- TO USE THE PARK BUT TO ALLOW THE CITY
02:42:57PM TO USE -- SHOULD ONLY BE USED FOR PROVEN PROFIT QUASI PROFIT
02:43:04PM PROGRAMMED BY THE TENANT.
02:43:06PM AND ALLOW THE PREMISE FROM TIME TO TIME TO BE UTILIZED
02:43:10PM SUBJECT TO SCHEDULING USE THROUGH THE TENANT'S WEB SITE AND
02:43:14PM DIGITAL RESERVATION SYSTEM.
02:43:15PM SUCH USE WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE REASONABLE INSURANCE
02:43:18PM REQUIREMENTS AND RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR USE OF THE
02:43:20PM PREMISES BY THE PUBLIC AS RECENTLY ESTABLISHED BY THE TENANT
02:43:24PM FROM TIME TO TIME.
02:43:25PM PROVIDED, HOWEVER, SUCH RULES AND REGULATIONS SHOULD NOT
02:43:29PM PREVENT THE PUBLIC FROM REASONABLE USE OF THE PREMISE.
02:43:32PM MY QUESTION FOR MR. MULKEY IS, WHY DON'T -- IT SOUNDS LIKE
02:43:40PM THEY WILL BE MAKING THE DECISION WHO CAN AND CANNOT USE THE
02:43:43PM PARK.
02:43:43PM WHY CAN'T WE RETAIN CONTROL OF THE PARK AND HAVE THEM ASK --
02:43:47PM OR HAVE EVERYONE ASK IF WHAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY WANT TO USE
02:43:51PM THE PARK.
02:43:53PM >>TONY MULKEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, TONY MULKEY, PARKS
02:44:00PM AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
02:44:00PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THIS IS JUST TRADITIONAL OPERATIONS OF
02:44:04PM THE PARK.
02:44:04PM THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST PARKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:44:08PM PLANT PARK WAS THE ORIGINAL HOME OF THE ZOO.
02:44:10PM A VERY RICH HISTORY, THE PAST 50 YEARS OR SO AS INITIATED
02:44:15PM THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AGREEMENT, IT HAS BEEN
02:44:17PM MAINTAINED, CONTROLLED BY THE UNIVERSITY WE EXPLORED AND HAD
02:44:26PM CONVERSATIONS HOW THIS LOOKS FOR DIFFERENT ENTITIES COMING
02:44:29PM TO US AND A LOT CLEANER TO HAVE IT WHERE THEY HAVE KIND OF
02:44:33PM PRIMARY CONTROL OVER THIS.
02:44:34PM SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THIS IS WITH EVENTS THAT WANTED TO
02:44:38PM UTILIZE THIS SPACE AND WERE TOLD NOW.
02:44:40PM THIS DATES BACK -- THAT LETTER HAS BEEN REPEATED MULTIPLE
02:44:44PM TIMES THROUGH SEVERAL ADMINISTRATIONS BEFORE CURTIS HIXON
02:44:48PM WAS ESTABLISHED AS AN EVENT PARK AND ADDED TO POUR INVENTORY
02:44:51PM A LITTLE BIT AND THE ORIGINAL EVENT HAS MORPHED THROUGH
02:44:57PM DIFFERENT CONTROL GROUPS DURING THIS TIME AND FOUND A NICE
02:44:59PM HOME AT PERRY SHARI PARK.
02:45:01PM IT HAS ACTUALLY WORKED OUT -- HARVEY PARK.
02:45:05PM IT HAS ACTUALLY WORKED OUT AND WE HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE
02:45:10PM UNIVERSITY FOR EVENTS ALONG THE WAY AND THEY HAVE THAT
02:45:13PM PRIMARY CONTROL AND MAINTENANCE ASPECT TO IT.
02:45:15PM AND IT HAS WORKED OUT FOR THE MOST PART.
02:45:17PM IS IT PERFECT?
02:45:19PM IT ISN'T.
02:45:20PM IT IS A CITY PLOT AND THEY DO MAINTAIN IT AND CONTROL IT AND
02:45:24PM THEIR UNIVERSITY OPERATIONS WITH SECURITY CONCERNS AND
02:45:26PM ACCESS CONCERNS.
02:45:27PM IT IS NOT A GREAT EVENT PARK.
02:45:29PM NOT REALLY BUILT THAT WAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OTHER
02:45:33PM OPTIONS NOW.
02:45:34PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CAN I TODAY THAT --
02:45:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE A FEW.
02:45:40PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: JUST WANT TO ADDED TO THAT.
02:45:42PM THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE PARK.
02:45:45PM ALL THE ROADS AROUND IT IS UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY.
02:45:48PM SO UNLIKE JULIAN B. LANE WHERE YOU PULL IN, AND A
02:45:54PM PARK PARKING LOT AND PUBLIC REST ROOMS AND OTHER THINGS,
02:45:57PM LOGISTICALLY THIS IS A CHALLENGE OF THIS LOOKING AND FEELING
02:46:01PM LIKE A CITY PARK.
02:46:02PM THERE ARE NO PUBLIC REST ROOMS AVAILABLE AT THAT PARK.
02:46:05PM THERE IS NO PARKING.
02:46:06PM THE PARKING IS -- IF YOU ARE PARKING ON THE UNIVERSITY
02:46:09PM PROPERTY AND THROUGH -- WE TOLD YOU OF THE NEGOTIATIONS WHEN
02:46:20PM THE ISSUE OF THE PUBLIC PARK CAME UP.
02:46:22PM WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THROUGH THIS NEXT, WE HAVE WORKED
02:46:25PM TO NOW FORMALIZE THE PROCESS WITH THEM AND THAT IS PART OF
02:46:35PM THE AGREEMENT ON U.T.'S WEB SITE WHEN PEOPLE ARE MAKING
02:46:39PM PUBLIC REQUEST, NOT A FORMALIZED PROCESS HOW THAT WILL BE
02:46:43PM DONE BEFORE AND NOW AS PART OF THESE DISCUSSIONS OVER THE
02:46:46PM PAST TWO YEARS, A FORMALIZED PROCESS FOR MANAGING THAT
02:46:49PM REQUEST.
02:46:50PM AND PROVIDING INSURANCE AND OTHER THINGS JUST LIKE WE DO IF
02:46:53PM YOU ARE COMING TO OUR PARK FOR THE A SPECIAL EVENT OF SOME
02:46:57PM SORT.
02:46:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:46:59PM TO GO FURTHER THOUGH, WHEN I STARTED TO RESEARCH THIS AND
02:47:03PM TALKED TO MR. MULKEY AND OTHER FOLKS, IT CAME TO THE
02:47:07PM CONSIDERATION OF THE BEST RIVERWALK.
02:47:11PM AND THE NEED TO -- AND THEIR STUDENT SAFETY TO CLOSE DOWN
02:47:16PM PORTIONS OF THE NEW WEST RIVERWALK FROM MIDNIGHT TO 5 A.M.
02:47:21PM WHAT I FOUND OUT, THAT IS NOT THE ONLY PARCEL GOING TO BE
02:47:25PM CLOSING DOWN ON THE REST OF THE RIVERWALK.
02:47:28PM WILL MULTIFAMILY, CAN YOU TELL US OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES
02:47:32PM THERE ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR GATES CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC ON
02:47:35PM THIS NEW $54 MILLION RIVERWALK.
02:47:38PM >>TONY MULKEY: TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION.
02:47:42PM I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE TERMS OF ALL THE EASEMENT.
02:47:45PM WE HAVE ONE SECTION HERE.
02:47:49PM I FORGET THE NAME OF THE PROPERTY BUT THE PROPERTY --
02:47:53PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE MANOR OF WEST RIVER WALK THAT DOES THE
02:47:56PM ROOSTING NEST AND ALL OF THAT RIGHT THERE.
02:47:58PM BECAUSE -- I -- I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, WE ARE NOT DONE WITH
02:48:02PM THOSE NEGOTIATIONS OF THOSE EASEMENTS YET FOR THAT WEST
02:48:06PM RIVERWALK.
02:48:07PM REBECCA AND I ARE LOOKING AT -- WHAT DO YOU MEAN AND WHAT
02:48:11PM ARE YOU ASKING?
02:48:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.
02:48:14PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION?
02:48:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I WAS TOLD THAT SOME MORE PORTIONS,
02:48:19PM INCLUDING THE RELATED GROUP PROPERTY AND SOME SCHOOLS WOULD
02:48:23PM HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH BEING OPEN.
02:48:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I MEAN WE JUST -- AS PART OF THE STADIUM
02:48:33PM REDID THE ENTIRE PIECE TO PUT THE SOCCER STADIUM THERE AND I
02:48:37PM SAW THE OTHER DAY THIS HAD THE NEW RIVERWALK DESIGN THAT WAS
02:48:40PM COMPLETED AND WALKING ON IT.
02:48:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT HAS BEEN OPEN.
02:48:46PM >>TONY MULKEY: IF I CAN INTERJECT A LITTLE BIT.
02:48:51PM THE CURRENT AGREEMENT FOR THAT STRETCH DOES HAVE ACCESS BUT
02:48:54PM DOESN'T CONNECT TO ANYTHING.
02:48:55PM SO AS THE DEVELOPMENT MOVES FORWARD, AND THAT IS -- THAT IS
02:48:59PM IN PLACE AT THE MOMENT.
02:49:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MY POINT ABOUT ALL OF THIS.
02:49:04PM TWO PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT HAVE BEEN
02:49:08PM UNDERLEASED OR UNDER -- YEAH, SORRY, A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR
02:49:11PM 50 YEARS.
02:49:12PM AND NOW YOU ARE COMING TO US WITH AN AGREEMENT ABOUT USING
02:49:15PM PUBLIC SPACE.
02:49:16PM THAT THE PUBLIC HAS NOT HAD A RIGHT TO -- TO PUT ANY INPUT
02:49:21PM ON SO WE HAVE A PUBLIC PARK THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF
02:49:30PM TAMPA.
02:49:30PM I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN BEFORE WE
02:49:33PM AGREE TO GIVE IT TO THEM FOR ANOTHER 25 YEARS TO THE
02:49:37PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
02:49:37PM THAT IS THE ONE THING WE HAVEN'T DONE, TALK TO THE PUBLIC
02:49:40PM HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS SPACE.
02:49:42PM THE PUBLIC MAY WANT THIS SPACE SOLD TO THE UNIVERSITY OF.
02:49:46PM WE HAVEN'T HEARD.
02:49:47PM THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS WEST RIVERWALK, THIS PARK WILL BE
02:49:51PM A LOT MORE INTEGRAL TO THE CITY AS IT GOES FORWARD AND I AM
02:49:56PM NOT COMFORTABLE APPROVING A 25-YEAR LEASE THAT THE PUBLIC
02:49:59PM HAD ONLY HAD THE ABILITY TO HEAR ABOUT THROUGH READING IT ON
02:50:02PM A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.
02:50:04PM SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE
02:50:09PM TWO -- AND I KNOW MR. CLENDENIN HAS MORE TO SPEAK TO ON
02:50:16PM THIS.
02:50:16PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE TWO ITEMS BE CONTINUED FOR THE
02:50:19PM NEXT MONTH OR SO WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SO THE
02:50:23PM COMMUNITY CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT
02:50:25PM PARK BECOME.
02:50:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I -- JUST FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
02:50:31PM I GO TO THAT PARK OFTEN.
02:50:33PM OVER THE YEARS, OFTEN.
02:50:35PM I GO TO THE ROCKING CHAIRS ON THE VERANDA.
02:50:38PM I NEVER HAVE BEEN TRESPASS AT NIGHT.
02:50:40PM I HAVE GONE DURING THE DAY AND TIED HAMMOCKS UP TO THE TREES
02:50:45PM ALONG THE WATER.
02:50:46PM I NEVER HAVE BEEN TOLD ANYTHING.
02:50:48PM I HAVE GONE 10:00 AT NIGHT.
02:50:50PM I HAVE GONE 9 A.M. ON A SUNDAY.
02:50:52PM I MEAN, HE ALWAYS SEE IT AS A PUBLIC SPACE.
02:50:56PM BUT I DON'T PARK ON THE PROPERTY.
02:50:57PM WALK FROM CITY HALL.
02:50:59PM IF I PARK, I PARK WHERE THE OXFORD EXCHANGE IS AT AND COME
02:51:03PM OVER.
02:51:03PM I NEVER EVEN HAVE SECURITY -- BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LITTLE
02:51:06PM GOLF CARTS.
02:51:07PM THEY NEVER SAID ANYTHING.
02:51:09PM I HAVE GONE WITH PEOPLE AND GONE AND TAKEN PHOTOS.
02:51:12PM SOMEONE I KNOW TOOK ENGAGEMENT PHOTOS.
02:51:14PM NO ONE EVER SAID ANYTHING.
02:51:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, BUT IF THEIR CONCERN IS SECURITY -- WE
02:51:22PM HAD CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WANTING TO USE THE PARK.
02:51:24PM WE HAD CONCERNS -- I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SHUTTING OFF ACCESS
02:51:27PM TO THE RIVERWALK.
02:51:28PM AND I THINK THAT IF A NEXT HAS BEEN MADE, THAT THE PUBLIC
02:51:32PM NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON IF THEY ARE OKAY WITH THESE
02:51:36PM NEGOTIATIONS.
02:51:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ABOUT THE AUDITORIUM SIZE.
02:51:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE A AUDITORIUM, I AM LEAVING THAT TO MR.
02:51:43PM CLENDENIN.
02:51:43PM FOR ME THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
02:51:46PM THIS IS A PUBLIC PARK.
02:51:47PM YOU ARE RIGHT, I AM DOING THE SAME THING.
02:51:50PM TO ME THE ISSUE, CLOSE A GATE ON THE RIVERWALK AND IT WILL
02:51:54PM BE MORE DANGEROUS BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL SIMPLY TRESPASS AROUND
02:51:59PM IT.
02:51:59PM IF YOU CLOSE A GATE ON THE RIVERWALK, I AM SIMPLY GOING TO
02:52:02PM GO AROUND IT AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE WILL DO.
02:52:06PM AGAIN, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO HAVE
02:52:10PM INPUT AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE YOU A PUBLIC EVENING
02:52:13PM MEETING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE FROM THIS
02:52:16PM PARK BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE INPUT FOR 50
02:52:20PM YEARS ON HOW TO USE THE PARK.
02:52:23PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, RESPECTFULLY, THIS IS
02:52:27PM HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED PARK, PLANT PARK, AND NOT ELIGIBLE
02:52:34PM FOR PROGRAMMING BEYOND WHAT YOU SEE THERE BECAUSE OF THE
02:52:37PM HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
02:52:39PM WE CAN MAKE THAT CONVERSATION.
02:52:40PM I WANTON MAKE CLEAR THEY ALWAYS HAD THE RIGHT TO CLOSE IT
02:52:43PM FROM DUSK TO DAWN FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS AND THEY DON'T.
02:52:46PM AT THAT PARK THREE TIMES A WEEK.
02:52:49PM I LIVE IN RIVERSIDE, I RIDE HIGH BIKE THERE.
02:52:54PM I SIT IN THE HAMMOCKS.
02:52:56PM IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THIS WILL REMAIN OPEN TO THE
02:52:59PM PUBLIC.
02:52:59PM THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO -- IF IT IS THE PRESSURE
02:53:03PM FOR THE COUNCIL AND A MOTION FOR THAT HEARING, I WILL GET
02:53:08PM DENNIS FERNANDEZ BECAUSE THIS IS HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED.
02:53:13PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER PARKS LIKE THAT OR ANY
02:53:17PM PARKS LIKE THAT.
02:53:17PM BECAUSE OF HIXON JUST BECAUSE OF ITS LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
02:53:22PM I WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION SO YOU ARE MAKING
02:53:25PM DECISIONS BASED ON ALL THE INFORMATION.
02:53:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:53:28PM TO ME, THAT IS NOT THE POINT.
02:53:29PM I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT INTO A DESTINATION LIKE AN EVENT
02:53:33PM PARK.
02:53:34PM I WANT THE PUBLIC WHO HAD NOT HIM PACT WHAT TO DO WITH THIS
02:53:38PM BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN UNDER A LEASE WITH THE UNIVERSITY.
02:53:40PM I UNDERSTAND IT IS OPEN, BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE THE PUBLIC
02:53:44PM TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN.
02:53:45PM NOW, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON
02:53:53PM THIS.
02:53:53PM BUT I THINK FOLKS SHOULD WEIGH IN ON HOW WE ARE NEGOTIATING
02:53:58PM THIS FOR CLOSING HOURS.
02:53:59PM AND SO FORTH.
02:54:00PM SOME THAT -- THAT IS THE REASON THAT I SUGGEST THIS.
02:54:03PM BUT I AM GOING TO LEAVE IT TO OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS.
02:54:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON DO YOU HAVE YOUR
02:54:10PM MICROPHONE ON?
02:54:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOW.
02:54:15PM JUST WOW.
02:54:16PM WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, CITY OF TAMPA IS CHANGING.
02:54:19PM AND WE ARE ENGAGING AREAS OF THE CITY THAT NEVER HAVE BEEN
02:54:22PM ENGAGED BEFORE IN TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE WAYS JUST
02:54:29PM BECAUSE IT WORKED FOR LAST 50 YEARS DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT
02:54:32PM WILL WORK FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.
02:54:34PM THE CITY COUNCIL IN A VERY RISKY VOTE, VOTED TO INVEST A
02:54:37PM SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE WEST RIVERWALK TO ENGAGE
02:54:41PM THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER AND TOP PROMOTE DIFFERENT TYPES
02:54:45PM OF ACTIVITIES ON THAT SIDE.
02:54:49PM OBVIOUSLY THIS PARK IS A PART OF THAT.
02:54:51PM I WILL GET TO THE PARK FIRST AND THEN WHAT I AM
02:54:56PM MOSTLY PASSIONATE ABOUT.
02:54:57PM THIS IS IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING AND INTEGRAL
02:55:01PM PART OF THE NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDOR.
02:55:03PM I AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN.
02:55:05PM I LIVE WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS PARK.
02:55:07PM I OUT THIS PARK.
02:55:09PM I DON'T PARK ON THE PROPERTY, BUT I USE THE PARK IN ITS
02:55:12PM CURRENT FORECAST.
02:55:13PM I AM A LITTLE SHOCKED OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT I SAW OF THE
02:55:16PM CONTROL THAT IS GRANTED.
02:55:17PM BUT I AM GOING TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM THE PARK BECAUSE I
02:55:20PM THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK CAPTURED EXACTLY WHAT NEEDED TO BE
02:55:23PM CAPTURED OF THE PUBLIC USE OF THIS PROPERTY.
02:55:25PM MY ISSUE -- DURING NEW BUSINESS, I AM GOING TO INTRODUCE
02:55:29PM SOMETHING ABOUT HOW WE DISPOSE OF PROPERTIES AND HOW WE
02:55:32PM TRANSFER OR SELL PROPERTIES.
02:55:34PM BUT I TALKED BENEFIT OF BEING IN THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.
02:55:43PM THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PULLED BY STAFF TO BE DISCUSSED.
02:55:45PM HAVING -- ONE, THE RENEWABLE LEASE OF PROPERTY THAT IS
02:55:49PM LEASED FOR -- YOU KNOW, FOR ALMOST 50 PLUS YEARS BECAUSE THE
02:55:54PM LEASE EXPIRED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IS ONE THING.
02:55:57PM BUT HAVING THAT CLAUSE IN THERE AS AN ASSET WOULD TRANSFER
02:56:01PM FOR FREE FROM CITY HAND TO PRIVATE HAND REALLY NEEDED TO BE
02:56:07PM BET FLUSHED OUT AND DISCUSSED AMONG THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL
02:56:13PM ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
02:56:14PM I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENTS.
02:56:15PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CLARIFY THIS.
02:56:20PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS A GREAT PARTNER WITH CITY OF TAMPA.
02:56:24PM GREAT ASSET WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:56:26PM WONDERFUL TO HAVE IT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WOULD, WITH
02:56:29PM THEM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:56:30PM IT IS ONE OF OUR JEWELS.
02:56:32PM THAT BEING SAID, THE SEVEN OF US UP HERE AND THE FOLKS THAT
02:56:36PM WORK IN THE -- IN ADMINISTRATION, WE ARE THE CUSTODIANS OF
02:56:41PM -- OF THE ASSETS FOYER FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:56:44PM WE ARE THE VOICES THAT REPRESENT THESE ASSETS.
02:56:46PM AND THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA HAS HAD FAIR USE OF THIS
02:56:51PM PROPERTY FOR 50-PLUS YEARS AND OTHER PARCELS.
02:56:55PM WE KNOW IT IS A COMPLICATED PIECEMEAL PARCELS TO BE ABLE TO
02:56:59PM PUT TOGETHER A MAJOR UNIVERSITY AND IN AN URBAN AREA.
02:57:03PM THEY HAVE BEEN USING THIS PROPERTY, YOU KNOW.
02:57:06PM AND YES, THEY REBUILT THE AUDITORIUM AFTER IT WAS BURNT AND
02:57:10PM ALL, BUT THEY STILL HAS BEEN USING THE PROPERTY FOR FREE.
02:57:13PM THAT HAS A PRICE TAG.
02:57:15PM HAVING A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT WOULD WITHOUT THE INFORMATION,
02:57:22PM I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH IS THAT PROPERTY WORTH.
02:57:24PM IT WORTH $10 OR $100 MILLION.
02:57:27PM I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH THAT IS WORTH BEFORE I MAKE A
02:57:30PM FIDUCIARY DECISION ABOUT THE DISPOSITION OF THAT PROPERTY.
02:57:37PM I MAY GO RIGHT ALONG WITH THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL ON
02:57:41PM THIS, BUT I NEED TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION.
02:57:43PM I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS WORTH SO I CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.
02:57:47PM I NEED TO GO OVER TO THE TAXPAYER AND SAY I JUST GAVE AWAY A
02:57:51PM $50 MILLION BUILDING AND I GAVE IT AWAY BECAUSE OF X, Y,
02:57:57PM OR Z.
02:57:57PM OR GO TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE THE SPARTANS OF THE WORLD AND SAY
02:58:00PM I DIDN'T GIVE IT AWAY BECAUSE OF X, Y, AND Z.
02:58:05PM ALL WILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE US BEFORE I, IN ALL GOOD
02:58:09PM CONSCIOUSNESS, MAKE THIS DECISION FOR THE ROLE NOT SITTING ON
02:58:13PM THE BEACH, BUT SITTING ON THIS DAIS.
02:58:15PM WE NEED -- WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE WORTH.
02:58:19PM I AM ALSO -- I AM GOING TO HAVE TO SAY THIS OUT LOUD.
02:58:24PM I AM ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE MAYOR IS ON THE BOARD OF
02:58:27PM TRUSTEES.
02:58:27PM I ALMOST FEEL LIKE THESE DECISIONS AND THIS CONTRACT NEEDS
02:58:31PM TO COME OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THIS CHAIN OR -- IT JUST -- IT
02:58:36PM JUST DOESN'T TIME RIGHT TO ME.
02:58:37PM I HAVE TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY.
02:58:39PM I DON'T THINK THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
02:58:40PM I DON'T MEAN TO BE CONSPIRATOR RALE.
02:58:43PM SHE IS A SPARTAN.
02:58:44PM A PROUD SPARTAN AND SITS ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
02:58:49PM SOMETHING DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO ME.
02:58:52PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS HASHTAGGED A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
02:58:57PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:58:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: TOUGH ISSUES.
02:59:00PM I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN PRINCIPLE AND I ASKED FOR THIS
02:59:04PM WITH OTHER PROPERTIES AND WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT AND
02:59:07PM THURSDAY THROW.
02:59:07PM AS MISS FEELEY SAID WITH THE FULL PRESENTATION OF PROPERTIES
02:59:14PM AND EVERYTHING, I THINK IT WOULD BE DISCLOSED.
02:59:17PM FOR DISCLOSURE I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND I
02:59:21PM GRADUATED FROM THERE.
02:59:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RECUSE YOURSELF.
02:59:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF.
02:59:25PM [LAUGHTER]
02:59:26PM IF MARTY TELLS ME, I WILL.
02:59:28PM I WAS AROUND -- DR. VAUGHN WAS ONE OF MY PROFESSORS.
02:59:33PM AND I WAS AROUND WHEN HE RAISED THE MONEY FOR THE BUSINESS
02:59:37PM SCHOOL.
02:59:37PM AND HE RAISED -- THE FIRST PART WAS $40 MILLION.
02:59:40PM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT WENT INSIDE VERSUS THE
02:59:43PM BUILDING, BUT THE BUILDING WAS DERELICT.
02:59:45PM AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD BE TORN DOWN AT THE TIME OR
02:59:49PM NOT, BUT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA SAVED THAT BUILDING AS
02:59:57PM PLANT HALL, THE CHISLERS AND UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA STARTED BY
03:00:03PM THE CHAMBER SAVED THAT BUILDING.
03:00:05PM AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE FULL CONTEXT, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE
03:00:09PM PARK, PLANT HALL AND THIS BUILDING AND WHAT OTHER
03:00:14PM PROPERTIES.
03:00:14PM ALL OF THIS COSTS MONEY AND RELATIONSHIP IN THE CONTEXT.
03:00:17PM IF WE BRING IT BACK OR HAVE SOME KIND OF PUBLIC HEARING THAT
03:00:20PM STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE US A LENGTHY PRESENTATION ON IT
03:00:24PM BEFORE THE PUBLIC PRESENTS.
03:00:25PM THE PUBLIC -- IF WE ARE GOING TO INFORM THE PUBLIC, WE NEED
03:00:28PM TO KNOW THE FULL CONTEXT OF IT.
03:00:30PM WE ALSO NEED TO SAY THAT -- THOSE BUILDINGS WOULD NOT BE
03:00:36PM THERE BUT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
03:00:42PM THEY RAISED MONEY FOR IT, CHISLERS.
03:00:48PM SPENT HUNDREDS MILLIONS UPGRADING IT.
03:00:50PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS A HUGE ECONOMIC ENGINE.
03:00:55PM PROVIDING EMPLOYMENT TAMPA.
03:00:57PM AS DR. VAUGHN SAID, TRY GO TO A RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN AND NOT
03:01:02PM FIND A WAITER WHO IS A U.T. STUDENT AND GRADS.
03:01:07PM GRADUATES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
03:01:08PM THREE ON CITY COUNCIL.
03:01:09PM WE HAVE FOLKS THROUGHOUT.
03:01:11PM WHEN I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IN THE '80s, THEY HAD
03:01:16PM GONE THROUGH A TIME WHERE THEY HAD FOOTBALL AND GOT RID OF
03:01:18PM IT.
03:01:18PM AND THEN THEY GAVE SCHOLARSHIPS TO LOTS OF STUDENTS.
03:01:22PM AND THEY STARTED TO LOSE MONEY.
03:01:24PM I WAS THERE DURING THAT PART.
03:01:25PM AND THEN BRUCE SAMPSON CAME IN, A BUSINESS LEADER, AND HE
03:01:30PM WAS BROUGHT IN TO SAVE AND TURN AROUND THE UNIVERSITY OF
03:01:32PM TAMPA.
03:01:33PM THOSE YOU AROUND REMEMBER, THE PROPERTY OPENED BY RELATED
03:01:36PM THE CAESAR PROPERTY WAS A NINE-STORY FORMER HOTEL THAT WAS A
03:01:41PM DORM WHERE MIS EN PLACE.
03:01:45PM SPARTAN ARMS BY THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
03:01:48PM A HOUSE GIFTED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AS THE PRESIDENT'S
03:01:52PM HOUSE.
03:01:52PM 1989 TO '89.
03:01:55PM CITY OF TAMPA HAD SELL OFF THAT TO STAY AFLOAT AND HAD 1100
03:01:59PM STUDENTS.
03:02:00PM DR. VAUGHN CAME IN AND 12,000 STUDENTS.
03:02:03PM THEIR SUCCESS IN THE LAST 30 YEARS, A LOT OF IT WAS DUE TO
03:02:07PM HIM.
03:02:07PM A LOT OF IT DUE TO THE TRUSTEES.
03:02:09PM THE MONEY BY JOHN AND CHUCK SYKES.
03:02:12PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
03:02:13PM THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION IS ONLINE AND CHANGING RAPIDLY.
03:02:17PM WE DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING IS GOING.
03:02:19PM I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH A VERY IMPORTANT ECONOMIC
03:02:22PM ENGINE JUST LIKE I AM PROTECTED OF THE PORT AND AIRPORT, I
03:02:26PM WANT TO BE PROTECTED OF USF AND U.T. BECAUSE THEY ARE HUGE
03:02:32PM ECONOMIC ENGINES.
03:02:33PM LAST THING I WANT TO SAY I VOTED AGAINST THE WEST RIVERWALK
03:02:37PM EXPANSION.
03:02:37PM NOT BECAUSE I AM AGAINST THE RIVERWALK BUT THE FUNDING
03:02:41PM MECHANISM BECAUSE IT WILL COST A LOT OF INTEREST.
03:02:44PM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA REJECTED TO THIS.
03:02:46PM AND HURRICANE WATCH DR. VAUGHN STILL BEEN HERE, THEY SEE IT
03:02:54PM AS MAJOR SECURITY THREAT.
03:02:56PM NOW WE HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT, AND SHE IS PROBABLY NOT GOING
03:02:59PM TO MAKE THE SAME KIND OF STATEMENTS, BUT IT -- IT IS -- IT
03:03:02PM IS NOT THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA WANTS TO BLOCK PEOPLE
03:03:05PM OUT, A MAJOR SECURITY THREAT FOR THEM THAT THESE THINGS ARE
03:03:08PM OPEN LIKE THIS.
03:03:09PM THE LAST THING I WILL SAY AND NOT DIRECTLY RELATED.
03:03:13PM I HAVE BEEN FLOOD WITH MESSAGES IN THE LAST 24 HOURS IS THAT
03:03:17PM ONE IS TALKING OF CHANGING THE NAME OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
03:03:20PM TAMPA TO U. TAMPA.
03:03:22PM WHOEVER IS WATCHING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF.
03:03:24PM PLEASE DON'T DO THAT.
03:03:26PM THANK YOU.
03:03:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY MUST BE SENDING IT TO YOU BECAUSE THEY KNOWY
03:03:33PM IT VERY WELL.
03:03:33PM I AM NOT GETTING IT.
03:03:35PM AND GLAD THIS CONVERSATION IS HERE.
03:03:36PM I AM JUST LAUGHING OF MYSELF THINKING OF WHAT WE HAVE GIVEN
03:03:41PM AWAY.
03:03:41PM LAND BETWEEN COLUMBUS DRIVE.
03:03:44PM MLK.
03:03:48PM AND THE LAND BETWEEN HIMES AND DALE MABRY.
03:03:51PM ALL CITY PROPERTY.
03:03:53PM DONE ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND GIVEN AWAY TO THE COUNTY.
03:03:56PM FOR ZERO.
03:03:58PM NADA.
03:04:00PM YOU KNOW WHY?
03:04:01PM BECAUSE THEY FORGOT TO DO IT WHEN THEY WERE NEGOTIATING AND
03:04:06PM BUILT THE STADIUM.
03:04:07PM CITY PROPERTY, THE CITY CANNOT WRITE OFF AD VALOREM TAX.
03:04:12PM SO THEY DEED IT OVER TO THE COUNTY.
03:04:14PM I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
03:04:16PM I AM NOT SAYING IT IS RIGHT.
03:04:17PM I AM NO, SIR SAYING IT IS WRONG.
03:04:19PM I AM JUST SAYING WHAT HAPPENED.
03:04:21PM AND I AM HAPPY TO BE SO LONESOME BY MYSELF BECAUSE I CAN
03:04:29PM ALSO SAY WHAT I WANT TO SAY.
03:04:30PM THE SAME THING WE ARE DOING WITH THE CIT TAX.
03:04:33PM RIGHT IN MY POCKET, I HAVE THE MONIES THAT WE SPENT GIVING
03:04:38PM AWAY $2 MILLION A YEAR TO THE TUNE OF $23 MILLION GONE FOR
03:04:44PM NO REASON.
03:04:44PM WHY?
03:04:46PM BECAUSE YOU MADE A BAD CONTRACT.
03:04:48PM NOT SAYING TO WHO, WHEN AND WHERE.
03:04:51PM I AM HAPPY THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING ON.
03:04:53PM HAPPY WITH WHETHER CARLSON SAID, THAT BUILDING DID BURN
03:04:57PM DOWN.
03:04:57PM THAT BUILDING USED TO WRESTLING.
03:04:59PM GORGEOUS GEORGE AND DON CHERRY ALL THE GUYS.
03:05:03PM THE BOXING MATCHES AND ALL THAT.
03:05:06PM AND CONCERTS.
03:05:06PM HOW SMALL TAMPA WAS.
03:05:08PM HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE ALLIGATOR AND THE BEAR IN THE
03:05:11PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY OR THE CITY PROPERTY AT THE
03:05:13PM PARK.
03:05:13PM THEY SAID ARE YOU CRAZY.
03:05:14PM WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING.
03:05:16PM THERE WAS A BEAR AND AN ALLIGATOR THERE WHEN I USED TO GET
03:05:22PM THE BUS WITH MY FATHER TO SEE THE TAMPA SMOKERS PLAY THE
03:05:25PM CUBAN HURRICANES.
03:05:27PM EVERY WEEK WE USED TO DO THAT WHEN THEY WERE PLAYING HERE.
03:05:30PM NO BEAR AND NO ALLIGATOR, BUT A LOT OF MEMORIES ABOUT THE
03:05:34PM WHOLE SYSTEM.
03:05:35PM WE HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION.
03:05:36PM YOU DON'T OWN THE BUILDING.
03:05:38PM BUT YOU OWN THE LAND, WHERE McKAY USED TO BE.
03:05:41PM YOU OWN THE PARK, BUT YOU DON'T OWN THE STREETS.
03:05:44PM YOU GOT TO BE A GENIUS TO COME OUT OF THIS ONE.
03:05:48PM BECAUSE WHAT IS IT YOU OWN?
03:05:50PM YOU OWN HALF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUT YOU DON'T OWN THE OTHER
03:05:53PM HALF OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY I ASSUME FOR THE RIVERWALK.
03:05:56PM WHAT ELSE IS IT THAT WE OWN OR DON'T OWN?
03:05:59PM A CALAMITY OF ERROR THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORK ON FOR YEARS AND
03:06:05PM WORKS SO FAR.
03:06:06PM THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
03:06:08PM AM I A GRADUATE FROM THERE?
03:06:10PM YES.
03:06:11PM I DON'T TAKE FROM THERE.
03:06:12PM I GIVE TO THERE AS MR. CARLSON DOES.
03:06:15PM HELPED SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS CITY OF TAMPA.
03:06:17PM WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN DID OVER THERE, YOU HAVE TO BE A GENIUS
03:06:22PM FOR TO DO WHAT HE DID.
03:06:24PM I AM NORTHWEST GOING TO MENTION HIS NAME OF HOW LONG HE DID
03:06:28PM -- HE IS NO LONGER THERE, AND HE IS RETIRED.
03:06:30PM NO ONE HAS DONE WHAT HE HAS DONE.
03:06:32PM A BILLION DOLLARS IN ASSESSMENTS AND DONE WITH THE BUILDING.
03:06:36PM JUST AN AMAZING PLACE.
03:06:38PM AND LIKE MR. CARLSON SAID, IT IS LARGER NOW IN ENROLLMENT
03:06:45PM THAN PRINCETON AND WAKE FOREST AND USED TO BE NO BIGGER THAN
03:06:49PM ORANGE GROVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
03:06:51PM I WILL COMPARE AN ANIMAL WITH ANOTHER ANIMAL.
03:06:54PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
03:06:55PM AND WE LIVE IN A DIFFERENT SOCIETY.
03:06:57PM AND I AM NOT OPPOSED ANYBODY COMING HERE AND HAVING A
03:07:01PM HEARING ON IT.
03:07:02PM THAT IS FINE WITH ME.
03:07:03PM AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT IS IT YOU WANT TO DO AND HOW YOU
03:07:07PM ARE GOING TO DO.
03:07:08PM AND SETTLE BOTH ISSUES ON ONE SIDE -- ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.
03:07:12PM YOU HAVE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT IF NOT, ANOTHER WAR GOING
03:07:15PM ON INSIDE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:07:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:07:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
03:07:20PM FIRST TO CLARIFY FOR MR. CARLSON.
03:07:23PM I MET THEM AT THE DOWNTOWN PRESIDENTIAL LUNCHEON.
03:07:30PM AND SHE IS NOT PROMOTE WILLING U TAMPA.
03:07:33PM SHE WANTS FOR US TO REFER TO THE UNIVERSITY AS THE
03:07:36PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
03:07:37PM SHE WAS THE PROVOST OF TEXAS CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY AND SAYS
03:07:41PM WHEN PEOPLE SAY U.T. EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY ARE TALKING OF
03:07:44PM TEXAS LONGHORNS.
03:07:46PM WE NEED TO CREATE OUR OWN BRAND AND USE THE WORD "TAMPA
03:07:50PM UNIVERSITY" IF NO ONE ELSE HAS THAT.
03:07:52PM THAT IS WHAT SHE WAS SAYING BUT NOT U TAMPA.
03:07:56PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
03:07:58PM AND SHE CORRECTED PEOPLE A FEW TIMES DURING THE MEETING AND
03:08:01PM IT WAS KIND OF NICE.
03:08:02PM ANYWAY.
03:08:03PM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS ON MAP.
03:08:06PM THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION FOR ME BECAUSE, YOU
03:08:10PM KNOW, IT IS TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY AND WHAT WE HAVE A RIGHT
03:08:13PM TO DO OR NOT DO.
03:08:15PM SO I AM JUST GOING TO STAY IN LEARNING MODE ABOUT THIS AS IT
03:08:18PM RELATES TO OTHER THINGS IN THE FUTURE OF SPACES IN TAMPA.
03:08:21PM AND WHY AND THIS POSITION ON CITY COUNCIL, MANY TIMES, WE
03:08:27PM HAVE GIVEN THINGS AWAY.
03:08:28PM HISTORICAL SPACES AND PLACES.
03:08:30PM AND -- SO, WHATEVER IS DECIDED, I JUST THINK THAT WE -- WE
03:08:37PM NEED TO CONSIDER EVERY ASPECT OF THE DECISION AND WHAT IS
03:08:42PM BEST FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AS WELL AS THE UNIVERSITY OF
03:08:50PM TAMPA.
03:08:50PM I HAD NO IDEA THEY HAVE HAD HAMMOCKS.
03:08:53PM I BELIEVED THEY ALL HAD THEM AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO
03:08:56PM IT.
03:08:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN GO AND HOOK IT UP AND PEOPLE
03:08:59PM HANG OUT ALL THE TIME.
03:09:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I REALIZE THAT, BUT I NEVER -- IN TERMS
03:09:02PM OF AN ASSUMPTION, I DID NOT RECOGNIZE THAT.
03:09:05PM AND SO -- AND I AM SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT FEEL THE SAME
03:09:10PM WAY THAT I DO.
03:09:10PM BUT THE FACT WE HAVE ACCESS IS WONDERFUL.
03:09:12PM AND I WOULDN'T -- I JUST WANT TO MIX WITH THAT.
03:09:16PM WE WILL SEE.
03:09:18PM THANK YOU.
03:09:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:09:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:09:24PM THIS CONVERSATION IS VERY INTERESTING, AND I WANTED TO ABOUT
03:09:26PM I THINK IT TO LIGHT.
03:09:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT YOU SAID OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.
03:09:31PM DRY UP IN THE SHADOW OF UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA WITH STUDENT
03:09:37PM MURDERS.
03:09:37PM I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO WORRY OF ABOUT SECURITY FOR AN
03:09:40PM INSTITUTION.
03:09:41PM THIS IS WHY I MENTION AGAIN A REASON TO HAVE A MEETING TO
03:09:45PM DISCUSS IT WITH THE ONE LICK.
03:09:46PM DOES THE PUBLIC WANT -- IS THE UNIVERSITY INTERESTED IN
03:09:50PM BUYING THE PARK?
03:09:51PM HOW DOES THE PUBLIC FEEL ABOUT THAT?
03:09:53PM HOW DO THEY FEEL OF NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THE RIVER WALK
03:09:57PM ALL THE TIME?
03:09:58PM RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE GATES BUT OPEN ALL THE TIME.
03:10:00PM I HAVE BEEN THERE AFTER MIDNIGHT WALKING OR BIKING AFTER I
03:10:05PM SEE A SHOW OR HAVE DINNER.
03:10:07PM SO I -- YEAH, I -- SO MY POINT -- WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO TO
03:10:15PM CONTINUE BOTH OF THESE ITEMS FOR A EVENING PUBLIC MEETING TO
03:10:20PM RECEIVE AN APPRAISE PAL FOR THE PROPERTY THAT THE BUILDING
03:10:23PM SITS ON.
03:10:23PM AND I DO REALIZE THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT, BUT WHAT THAT LOOKS
03:10:27PM LIKE AND THEN I ALSO WANT A MAP OF -- ACTUALLY I WILL HAVE
03:10:35PM THAT SEPARATE.
03:10:35PM THESE ARE THE TWO THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEFORE OCTOBER
03:10:39PM 17.
03:10:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:10:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:10:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:10:45PM YES, MISS FEELEY.
03:10:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IN RELATION TO THE APPRAISAL.
03:10:51PM I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
03:10:52PM BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED AS PART OF THE UNIVERSITY.
03:10:54PM THE UNIVERSITY CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AS A PD-A APPLICATION.
03:10:59PM I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF THE HEAD.
03:11:01PM I DID THE REZONING.
03:11:02PM SO IT CAN NOT BE DEVELOPED AS ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN
03:11:07PM UNIVERSITY-RELATED.
03:11:09PM THE APPRAISALS ARE RUNNING $3,000 TO $6,000.
03:11:13PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT AN APPRAISAL IS GOING TO BRING TO YOU IN
03:11:17PM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE THE
03:11:20PM VALUE BELONGS UNDER THE ZONING OF THE UNIVERSITY.
03:11:22PM IT IS NOT COMMERCIAL GENERAL WHERE I CAN TELL YOU, OH, WE
03:11:26PM CAN SELL THIS AND BUILD A WALMART HERE.
03:11:28PM WE CAN'T DO THAT.
03:11:29PM SO I DON'T -- I AM TRYING TO THINK HOW THAT WILL BE HELPFUL
03:11:34PM IN YOUR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, THE
03:11:39PM INTERESTING -- WE MAY EXPEND THE MONEY AND IT MAY COME BACK
03:11:43PM TO SAYS IT WORTH ZERO BECAUSE THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN
03:11:47PM DEVELOP IT IS U.T. AND SITE PLAN CONTROLLED, SO, INTO, I
03:11:52PM BELIEVE FROM I AM RECALLING CORRECTLY, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE
03:11:56PM BUILDING THAT IS THERE.
03:11:57PM THAT IS ALL THAT THAT PROPERTY IS ENTITLED TO.
03:11:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN.
03:12:01PM I AM FINE WITH THAT.
03:12:04PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: OKAY.
03:12:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOOKED IT UP IN THE APPRAISAL RECORDS.
03:12:08PM THAT PARK AS BELONGING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
03:12:14PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT DURING AS PART --
03:12:17PM DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS.
03:12:17PM I DO WANT TO SAY FOR JUST A MOMENT, AT THE INVESTIGATION, I
03:12:22PM WAS AT THE TABLE WITH DR. VAUGHN ON THREE DIFFERENT
03:12:26PM OCCASIONS FOR SEVERAL HOURS IN RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE
03:12:28PM SECURITY AND UNIVERSITY.
03:12:30PM I DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE WHAT THE UNIVERSITY'S OPERATIONAL
03:12:33PM PROCEDURES ARE IN RELATION TO SECURITY.
03:12:36PM BECAUSE THAT IS NOT MY PLACE, BUT CRIMES, THINGS THAT
03:12:39PM HAPPEN, THE FACT THE RIVERWALK S IN PROXIMITY TO A DORM.
03:12:44PM THOSE THINGS IMPACT HOW THE UNIVERSITY FULFILLS THEIR
03:12:49PM OBLIGATIONS AND SECURITY AND REPORTING AND THERE IS A LOT OF
03:12:52PM OTHER THINGS THERE.
03:12:53PM SO I THINK WHILE HAVING A PUBLIC DISCUSSION IS NOT JUST THE
03:12:56PM PUBLIC, IT IS THE UNIVERSITY AS WELL.
03:12:58PM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE PARTNER, THE JAY I SENT PROPERTY OWNER
03:13:06PM THE MOST ADVERSELY IMPACTED OR POSITIVE LEAVE IMPACT BY
03:13:11PM THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
03:13:11PM THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS AS TO WHAT
03:13:14PM MAY OCCUR WITHIN PROXIMITY IN ORDER FOR THEM TO RETAIN
03:13:22PM CERTAIN ACCREDITATIONS AND THINGS THAT RUN WITH THE
03:13:24PM UNIVERSITY.
03:13:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS FINE, BUT THEY ARE ONE ACTOR IN THIS.
03:13:28PM WE ARE ANOTHER ACTOR.
03:13:29PM AND THE THIRD ACTOR IS THE PUBLIC.
03:13:31PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: UNDERSTOOD.
03:13:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE RIVERWALK HAS
03:13:35PM TO GO OFFER TO THE RIVER, LIKE SOMETIMES IT HAS ON THE EAST
03:13:39PM OR THE CURRENT RIVERWALK.
03:13:41PM MAYBE THAT IS A SOLUTION.
03:13:42PM I UNDERSTAND THERE IS COST TO THAT.
03:13:45PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
03:13:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: RIGHT NOW ON OUR CURRENT RIVERWALK,
03:13:49PM PROPERTIES LIKE HOTELS SIMPLY PUT UP A BIG GATED FENCE.
03:13:53PM THERE ARE CERTAINLY WAYS -- THEY HAVE FENCES ALONG THE
03:13:57PM HOTELS AND YOU USE KEY CARDS TO GET IN.
03:14:01PM I BIKE THE RIVERWALK ALL THE TIME.
03:14:04PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THOSE FENCES ARE NOT ON OUR PROPERTY.
03:14:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I KNOW.
03:14:07PM THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
03:14:10PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
03:14:11PM THE PARK IS ONE AND THE PROPERTIES ARE THE OTHER.
03:14:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S CORRECT.
03:14:15PM THAT IS HOW THOSE BUSINESSES HAVE CHOSEN TO SECURE THEIR
03:14:18PM PROPERTIES.
03:14:19PM CHOSEN TO PUT FENCES ON THEIR PROPERTIES.
03:14:21PM AND THE UNIVERSITY COULD DO THAT -- COULD DO THAT ROUTE AND
03:14:25PM FENCE OFF PLANT PARK AND FENCE OFF THE RIVERWALK.
03:14:28PM SO THEY HAVE OPTIONS AGAIN.
03:14:32PM I WANT PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS SO THE PUBLIC CAN BE A PART OF
03:14:35PM IT.
03:14:36PM I UNDERSTAND YOU DISAGREE, BUT I WANT THE PUBLIC TO HAVE A
03:14:40PM SAY INTO THIS.
03:14:41PM OR SHOULD HAVE A SAY.
03:14:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:14:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE TO LOWER MY BLOOD PRESSURE JUST A
03:14:46PM LITTLE BIT.
03:14:47PM MOST OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID HERE TODAY CAN ALL BE
03:14:50PM TRUE AND THIS STILL ISN'T A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:14:54PM ALL THESE THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND EVERYBODY --
03:14:57PM EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY SAID BUT STILL CAN BE A BENEFIT,
03:15:06PM LOOKING AFTER THE PEOPLE OF THE POCKETBOOKS WHO OWN THE
03:15:10PM ASSETS.
03:15:10PM ONE THING THAT IS FRUSTRATING TO ME.
03:15:12PM I LISTEN TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT SECURITY.
03:15:14PM OKAY, WE ARE NOT A POE DUNK TOWN ANYMORE.
03:15:18PM THIS IS NOT A SMALL LITTLE TOWN.
03:15:19PM I MEAN, I THINK -- I THINK NEW YORK UNIVERSITY, GEORGE
03:15:24PM WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY, URBAN CAMPUSES, AND YOU GO BEYOND THE
03:15:27PM UNITED STATES ACROSS THE WORLD WHERE THE UNIVERSITIES ARE
03:15:31PM INTEGRATED INTO THE CITY.
03:15:32PM GUESS WHAT, TAMPA, WE HAVE ARRIVED.
03:15:34PM WE ARE NOW AMERICA'S GREATEST CITY.
03:15:36PM AND WE HAVE AN URBAN CAMPUS WHICH IS PART OF THE CHARM OF
03:15:39PM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS THE INTEGRATION.
03:15:41PM WE HAVE A DORM DOWNTOWN THAT IS ALL STUDENTS.
03:15:44PM A HOTEL DOWNTOWN THAT IS MOSTLY STUDENTS.
03:15:47PM THEY ARE INTEGRATING WITH DOWNTOWN.
03:15:48PM WE HAVE THE STRAZ CENTER WITH CONSERVATORY PROGRAM.
03:15:52PM A COMPLETE INTEGRATION.
03:15:55PM SO SAYING WE NEED -- IMPLYING WE HAVE AT THAT SAFETY CONCERN
03:15:59PM BECAUSE WE ARE NOT CREATING AN INBOUND OR PRISON CAMP AROUND
03:16:04PM THE CITY OF TAMPA I THINK IS DISINGENUOUS.
03:16:07PM INTEGRATION OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS CHARM AND
03:16:11PM WONDERFUL MART OF THIS CAMPUS.
03:16:12PM THE FACT IT IS SO INTERTWINED WITH THE LIVING THING THAT IS
03:16:16PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:16:20PM WELCOME TO THE BIG TIME.
03:16:22PM WE ARE A CITY AND NOT IS A SMALL TOWN.
03:16:25PM I WILL GO WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID ABOUT ALL OF THIS CAN
03:16:30PM BE TRUE AND WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THE ACTUAL
03:16:34PM COST IS.
03:16:34PM WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GIVING AWAY.
03:16:37PM AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
03:16:39PM AND I WOULD BEG TO DIFFER, MISS FEELEY, WHILE PD-A AND
03:16:45PM ZONED, STILL A VALUE TO PROPERTY AND STILL -- YOU CAN STILL
03:16:48PM ASSIGN -- THAT BE CAMPUS CAN BURN DOWN TOMORROW OR THE TIDES
03:16:52PM CHANGE AND THINGS -- YOU KNOW, REPURPOSE THAT PROPERTY.
03:16:55PM THINGS HAPPEN AS THINGS GET REINVENTED.
03:16:58PM PRESENT USE AND PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCE WHAT IS IT IS.
03:17:01PM THERE IS STILL A VALUE TO IT.
03:17:03PM STILL A VALUE OF THE BUILDING SITTING ON TOP OF IT.
03:17:06PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR AGREEMENT WAS WHEN THEY BUILD
03:17:10PM THE AGREEMENT ON LAND THAT WE OWN.
03:17:12PM IT IS NOT SPELLED OUT ON THIS.
03:17:14PM I THINK THE BUILDING VERSUS THE PROPERTY AND THEY CAN TEAR
03:17:16PM IT DOWN IF THEY CHOSE TO.
03:17:18PM I THINK THERE IS STILL A VALUE.
03:17:21PM I THINK WE AS CUSTODIANS OF THE POCKETBOOK.
03:17:25PM WE WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE WE
03:17:29PM MAKE THIS DECISION.
03:17:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:17:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: A COUPLE OF THINGS RESPONSE TO THAT.
03:17:36PM ONE IS, IN -- THE ISSUE OF THE RIVERWALK -- THE WEST
03:17:43PM RIVERWALK IS NOT JUST SECURITY.
03:17:44PM WE HAVE NEEDS ALL OVER THE CITY AND INCLUDING INTERESTS
03:17:48PM SOMETHING LIKE $80 MILLION.
03:17:49PM -- INCLUDING INTEREST SOMETHING LIKE $80 MILLION WE CAN
03:17:57PM SPEND ON OTHER THINGS.
03:17:58PM I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A RIVERWALK THERE, IF WE
03:18:04PM ARE DOING IT FOR DEVELOPER TO HAVE A SOMETHING, THAT'S NOT A
03:18:08PM GOOD INVESTMENT AND A SEPARATE ISSUE.
03:18:11PM I AGREE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING WHY I
03:18:15PM VOTE FOR THE MOTION.
03:18:16PM I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE THIS AND HEARD BY THE PUBLIC.
03:18:20PM JUST BECAUSE I LIKE AN ORGANIZATION DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD
03:18:24PM SCRUTINIZE IT.
03:18:25PM HOWEVER, A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
03:18:31PM SOMEONE CAN COME IN AND OFFER US TO TURN TAMPA THEATRE FOR
03:18:35PM THAT A HOTEL AN IMPORTANT CULTURAL ASSET AND WOULDN'T ALLOW
03:18:41PM IT TO HAPPEN.
03:18:42PM WITH IMPORTANT HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND HISTORIC SPACES AND
03:18:48PM STRATEGIC ASPECTS AND ECONOMIC ENGINES.
03:18:51PM AN ECONOMIC DRIVER TO IT.
03:18:52PM NOT THAT WE CAN LEASE THAT BUILDING TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR
03:18:56PM FOR X AMOUNT AND LOOK AT THE CONTEXT WHAT THE ENGINE IS FOR
03:19:01PM OUR COMMUNITY.
03:19:01PM WHAT I WOULD LOOK LIKE TO DO WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WOULD
03:19:05PM LIKE TO PROPOSE A FRIENDLY AMOUNT THAT WOULD REQUEST
03:19:09PM THAT U.T. AND CITY STAFF WE ASKED TO JOIN TO HAVE THE
03:19:19PM CONVERSATIONS WITH US OF THE CITY IN A PRESENTATION NOT TO
03:19:23PM EXCEED 15 MINUTES.
03:19:25PM I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A MEATY CONVERSATION OF THE OVERALL
03:19:30PM RELATIONSHIP OF WHAT THE PROPERTIES ARE INCLUDED IN THESE.
03:19:33PM WHAT THE OVERALL AND ECONOMICS OF IT AND THE UNIVERSITY OF
03:19:37PM TAMPA CAN ALSO SHOW WHAT THEIR ECONOMIC IMPACT IS AT THE
03:19:41PM SAME TIME.
03:19:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE ASKING THAT AS PART OF THE OCTOBER 17
03:19:45PM MEETING.
03:19:45PM NOT PART OF THE PUBLIC MEETING THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE IN THE
03:19:48PM EVENING BEFORE THAT.
03:19:48PM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANT.
03:19:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WILL MAKE SEPARATE MOTION?
03:19:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:19:55PM I GUESS IF I NEED TO, I WILL MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION -- I
03:19:58PM WOULD LIKE AN EVENING MEET BEING THIS AS WELL.
03:20:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHICHEVER ONE YOU THINK.
03:20:03PM I THINK CONSIDERING THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS PROBABLY
03:20:06PM WATCHING AND THEY ARE NOT HERE.
03:20:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
03:20:09PM I THINK WHAT YOU SAID MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
03:20:12PM I AM ASKING FOR ITEMS 40 AND 42 CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 17 WITH
03:20:16PM THE INCLUSION OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND FEEDBACK OF AN
03:20:25PM EVENING PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD BETWEEN NOW AND THEN AND
03:20:27PM APPRAISAL.
03:20:29PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CAN'T DO THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
03:20:31PM I AM SORRY.
03:20:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT A BETTER DATE.
03:20:36PM THE 7th, WILL THAT WORK?
03:20:38PM OR NOVEMBER 21?
03:20:40PM LET'S DO NOVEMBER 21.
03:20:41PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO IS THE EVENING MEETING YOU ARE REQUESTING
03:20:47PM A PUBLIC MEETING WITH YOU, THIS COUNCIL?
03:20:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, JUST SHARING -- LIKE WE DO WITH ANY OTHER
03:20:53PM DEVELOPMENT MEETING.
03:20:54PM WHERE YOU TELL PEOPLE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PLANNING ON
03:20:58PM DOING.
03:20:58PM GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC.
03:21:00PM WHAT ELSE -- WHAT KIND OF OTHER THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE TO
03:21:05PM SEE HAPPEN WITH THIS.
03:21:06PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I AM SORRY TO BE -- SO HOW IS THAT GOING
03:21:16PM NOTICED?
03:21:17PM WHERE IS THAT BEING HELD?
03:21:18PM BECAUSE I CAN'T NOTICE THE ENTIRE CITY -- I MEAN, WHEN YOU
03:21:22PM HAVE DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, THAT YOU NOTICE PEOPLE WITHIN A
03:21:26PM GIVEN BOUNDARY AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT COME.
03:21:29PM THIS IS A CITYWIDE PARK.
03:21:30PM AND I AM HEARING THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ARE BRING FORWARDED
03:21:44PM AND I SUGGEST FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON THAT THAT IS ONE
03:21:48PM COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION THAT YOU ARE LETTING THE PUBLIC
03:21:50PM KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO HEAR THIS PRESENTATION AND WE ARE
03:21:54PM GOING TO HAVE A SECOND ITEM ON DISCUSSING THE PUBLIC'S INPUT
03:21:58PM ON THE USE OF PLANT PARK VERSUS TRYING TO HAVE A PUBLIC
03:22:01PM MEETING ON PLANT PARK THAT FOLDS INTO THE CONVERSATION FOR
03:22:11PM THE OTHER EVENING.
03:22:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE IDEA OF SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
03:22:15PM 300 FEET OUT FROM THE UNIVERSITY.
03:22:18PM THAT IS FINE.
03:22:19PM HOWEVER YOU WANT TO NOTICE.
03:22:21PM PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS.
03:22:21PM WHEN IT IS A MEETING -- WHEN WE ARE JUST HAVING A OPEN
03:22:25PM MEETING HERE, PEOPLE CAN'T COME UP AND ASK QUESTIONS AND GET
03:22:27PM THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
03:22:28PM PUBLIC COMMENT IS SIMPLY THAT.
03:22:30PM COMMENT.
03:22:31PM THERE ISN'T A BACK AND FORTH.
03:22:32PM THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO GIVE, IS A BACK AND FORTH
03:22:36PM BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND THE STAFF ABOUT THE PLANS FOR THIS
03:22:40PM SPACE.
03:22:43PM MR. MASSEY.
03:22:44PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION AND THE
03:22:48PM DIFFERENT IDEAS I AM HEARING FROM COUNCILMAN.
03:22:49PM BY COUNCIL.
03:22:52PM I UNDERSTAND WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEET BEING
03:22:54PM THIS THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY INVOLVE A FORMAL HEARING
03:22:58PM BEFORE YOU ALL WHICH IS FINE.
03:22:59PM AND WE CAN PROBABLY ARRANGE THAT.
03:23:02PM I GUESS -- I DON'T THINK THE APPRAISAL IS A NECESSARY
03:23:05PM COMPONENT OF THAT MEETING.
03:23:06PM I DON'T.
03:23:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO NOT OF THAT MEETING.
03:23:10PM APPRAISAL WILL BE --
03:23:12PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PART OF WHAT WE PRESENT TO YOU BEFORE YOU
03:23:15PM MAKE YOUR FINAL DECISION.
03:23:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
03:23:19PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SOUNDS LIKE TWO MEETINGS.
03:23:20PM ONE A COMMUNITY INFORMATIONAL MEETING TO GATHER FEEDBACK
03:23:24PM FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND ALSO A MORE FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING
03:23:27PM BEFORE YOU ALL, WHICH WE CAN -- WE CAN TRY TO WORK WITH THE
03:23:30PM CLERK'S OFFICE TO SCHEDULE BOTH AND MAYBE COME FORWARD WITH
03:23:33PM A MORE NOTICED LETTER.
03:23:38PM AND A LEASE OF CITY PROPERTY WHERE WE ARE BASICALLY DOING
03:23:41PM THE SAME THING.
03:23:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:23:45PM MR. MASSEY, EASIER TO DIVIDE IT INTO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
03:23:50PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: OR LEAST IN YOUR MOTION, YOU ARE ASKING FOR
03:23:53PM A COMMUNITY MEETING ON ONE DATE, AND A SEPARATE DATE, A
03:23:58PM PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE YOU ALL OF APPROVING AND NOT APPROVING
03:24:01PM THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
03:24:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS EXACTLY.
03:24:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MICROPHONE.
03:24:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS IT EXACTLY ARE YOU TRYING TO GET
03:24:11PM APPRAISED.
03:24:12PM THEIR BUILDING OR THE GROUND SPACE.
03:24:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE GROUND SPACE.
03:24:15PM BECAUSE WE OWN THE LAND.
03:24:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST THE GROUND SPACE.
03:24:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE WE OWN THE BUILDING, WE OWN THE
03:24:22PM LAND.
03:24:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE OWN THE BUILDING?
03:24:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SHE SAID WE DON'T.
03:24:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT AGREEMENT DID THEY BUILD THE
03:24:30PM BUILDING.
03:24:31PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: TERMS OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
03:24:32PM THEY WERE GIVEN PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
03:24:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT IT STAYS THEY CAN DO
03:24:37PM STUFF, THEY JUST HAVE TO COME TO US.
03:24:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY CAN TEAR IT DOWN.
03:24:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY HAVE TO COME TO US BEFORE THEY --
03:24:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE PURPOSE OF THE APPRAISAL WHEN WE GET
03:24:47PM THIS INFORMATION IN TERMS OF GETTING THE VALUE OF IT/
03:24:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:24:52PM WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FIDUCIARY ASPECT TO THE CITY.
03:24:56PM AND WE -- WE ALWAYS NEED MONEY.
03:24:58PM IF THE VALUE OF THIS BECAUSE THE DOUGHNUT HOLE IN THE
03:25:02PM DOUGHNUT IS ONLY $5,000, THEN GREAT.
03:25:06PM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EASILY GIVE AWAY WITHOUT A LOT
03:25:09PM OF DRAMA.
03:25:10PM IF WE FIND OUT IT IS WORTH $5 MILLION.
03:25:12PM THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.
03:25:14PM AND WE WOULD BE DOING THE PUBLIC A DISSERVICE TO NOT JUST --
03:25:18PM NOT KNOW WHAT THAT VALUE IS BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION.
03:25:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I.
03:25:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:25:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAYBE I WILL REGRET INTERJECTING MYSELF, MR.
03:25:31PM MASSEY.
03:25:32PM AND I SAW YOU DID AND I WAS HOPING -- BECAUSE I AM SITTING
03:25:35PM HERE LISTENING TO THIS.
03:25:36PM AND MY SENSE IS, TAKING ALL THIS IN FROM WHERE I SIT, THIS
03:25:42PM IS A VERY COMPLEX SITUATION BASED ON YEARS OF MULTIPLE
03:25:47PM TRANSACTIONS THAT HAVE CREATED A CONTEXT THAT I DON'T SEE
03:25:53PM HOW CAN POSSIBLY BE EXPLAINED TO THE PUBLIC SHOWING UP AS A
03:25:57PM PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING BASED ON THE CONCEPT THAT WHAT
03:26:01PM THEY SEE IS PLANT PARK AND A BUILDING.
03:26:04PM NOT KNOWING THE CONTEXT.
03:26:06PM MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE
03:26:11PM OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AS YOU WOULD WITH THE
03:26:14PM INFORMATIONAL MEETING THAT WAS MADE INITIALLY TO BRING THAT
03:26:18PM BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN ON THAT BASIS, EVERYBODY
03:26:24PM WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE CONTEXT TO KNOW THAT WHEN THEY HAVE
03:26:28PM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN, IT WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE, FIRST
03:26:33PM OF ALL, THE LOGISTICS TO BE ABLE TO PLAN A MEETING IN SUCH A
03:26:36PM WAY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH THE BASIS OF
03:26:40PM INFORMATION COMING TO COUNCIL TO HAVE THE PREDICATE TO
03:26:44PM UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION OF HOW YOU GOT TO WHERE YOU ARE
03:26:46PM TODAY AND WHAT, THEN, YOUR OPTIONS OF WHAT YOU CAN AND
03:26:50PM CANNOT DO.
03:26:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. -- I AM SORRY, IT WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME
03:26:55PM THAT THE PUBLIC -- WHAT I HEARD -- AND I KNOW YOU DIDN'T
03:26:58PM MEAN IT, THAT THE PUBLIC IS NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE IT
03:27:02PM OUT AND I DISAGREE WITH THAT.
03:27:04PM IF THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE TO THE PUBLIC, IT IS WEIGHING
03:27:08PM IN ON WHETHER OR NOT THE PUBLIC THINKS THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
03:27:10PM BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING IS TRADING LAND FOR ACCESS FOR
03:27:15PM -- FOR ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO THE RIVERWALK.
03:27:17PM IS THAT A DEAL THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO BE MADE?
03:27:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
03:27:25PM AND I CAN UNDER STAND ON THE CONSENT DOCKET TODAY, YOU DO
03:27:30PM NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.
03:27:31PM I UNDERSTAND THAT IS CLEAR.
03:27:33PM IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS -- I AM NOT FAMILIAR -- I
03:27:36PM DO GET THE CITY E-MAILS THAT COME INTO CITY COUNCIL.
03:27:40PM I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE DEPTH OF THE PUBLIC'S
03:27:44PM INFORMATION IS UP IN UNTIL THIS POINT OTHER WITHIN THAT IS
03:27:47PM ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE.
03:27:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
03:27:50PM WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HAVING A COMMUNITY INPUT MEETING, WHERE
03:27:53PM THEY CAN SHARE THIS INFORMATION AND PEOPLE CAN ASK THOSE
03:27:56PM QUESTIONS.
03:27:56PM THIS IS VERY COMPLICATED.
03:27:57PM AND I AM NOT COMFORTABLE SAYING, SURE, WE WILL JUST --
03:28:02PM BECAUSE I --
03:28:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM NOT SUGGESTING FOR COUNCIL THAT THEY
03:28:06PM TAKE ACTION ON THIS.
03:28:06PM I AM JUST SUGGESTING TO COUNCIL THAT WHERE I HAVE SIT, THERE
03:28:11PM IS A LOT OF ISSUE IN HERE -- AND INTERESTINGLY, AND I LOOK
03:28:18PM BACK -- I LOOK BACK TO THE QUESTION -- AND I WAS SITTING
03:28:21PM HERE WHEN THAT PD-A WAS GRANTED.
03:28:23PM THE QUESTION WOULD BE, ALL THESE ISSUES AND THESE
03:28:27PM INTRICACIES ALL BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT MADE THAT
03:28:30PM DECISION?
03:28:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
03:28:34PM CARLSON IS NEXT AND THEN MISS FEELEY.
03:28:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO POINTS WITH REGARD TO THE APPRAISAL.
03:28:43PM AGREE WITH GETTING APPRAISALS.
03:28:45PM I THINK -- I AM NOT GOING TO PUT WORDS IN HER MOUTH, BUT I
03:28:50PM AGREE WITH MISS FEEL'S POINT OF VIEW THAT CONSIDERING THE
03:28:56PM ENCUMBRANCES IT WILL COME BACK BEING WORTH NOTHING OR VERY
03:29:00PM LITTLE.
03:29:00PM WHO HYPOTHETICAL IF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA CLOSED OR SOLD.
03:29:04PM THE REALITY OF THIS CURRENT SITUATION WILL SHOW IT VERY LOW.
03:29:10PM WHAT THEY ARE THINKING OF GOING THROUGH THE RFP PROCESSES.
03:29:13PM SOME OF THE PURCHASING IT TAKING SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS NOW.
03:29:17PM I AGREE WE SHOULD GET NUMBERS LIKE THAT.
03:29:19PM I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR ONE ON HANNA AVENUE.
3:29:21PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT BUILDING IS WORTH THAT WE
3:29:23PM SPENT 220 MILLION ON.
3:29:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL ROADS LEAD BACK TO --
3:29:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING IS, IF YOU HAVE A NIGHT
3:29:37PM MEETING, I THINK YOU ALSO OUGHT TO INVITE THE UNIVERSITY OF
3:29:41PM TAMPA TO PARTNER.
3:29:44PM THEY PROBABLY WOULD HOST IT.
3:29:48PM ONE OF THE POINTS MARTY WAS MAKING, WE SHOULD EXPLAIN THE
3:29:52PM BROADER CONTEXT, NOT JUST THESE ITEMS.
3:29:55PM THEY -- THE PUBLIC SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL.
3:29:57PM I THINK THAT MY DAY JOB USED TO BE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC
3:30:03PM INPUT.
3:30:04PM I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY COULD ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING BUT
3:30:07PM BY DOING IT IN A NIGHT MEETING OR DAY MEETING OF CITY
3:30:10PM COUNCIL.
3:30:10PM WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE SCHEDULE PLENTY OF TIME.
3:30:13PM THAT WAY WE ALSO GET TO HEAR ALL THE INPUT.
3:30:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. FEELEY AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER
3:30:18PM CLENDENIN.
3:30:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME TALK BEFORE MS. FEELEY, DO YOU
3:30:23PM MIND?
3:30:23PM I KIND OF CONCUR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND MS. FEELEY
3:30:27PM ON THIS.
3:30:28PM UNLESS STAFF WAS TO SAY, OH, YEAH, WE COULD PULL THIS OFF
3:30:33PM FLAWLESSLY, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE PROCEDURES,
3:30:36PM RULES TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO
3:30:38PM THERE.
3:30:39PM I THINK HAVING A PUBLICLY NOTICED COUNCIL MEETING WITH THIS
3:30:42PM ON THE AGENDA AND INVITING -- THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE
3:30:47PM SECOND PART.
3:30:47PM I ALREADY LOOKED AT THE CALENDAR TO SEE IF THAT WAS THERE.
3:30:50PM THAT WAS GOING TO BE PART OF WHY NEXT.
3:30:53PM I THINK HAVING A PUBLICLY NOTICED, HAVING THIS ACCOMPLISHED.
3:30:58PM IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING UNLESS YOU'VE
3:31:01PM GOT ALL THE INFORMATION.
3:31:03PM THE ONLY PLACE TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION IS WHERE ALL THE
3:31:06PM INFORMATION IS PRESENTED.
3:31:07PM OTHERWISE YOU'RE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON PIECES OF
3:31:10PM INFORMATION.
3:31:11PM SO CONVENIENTLY ON THE 21st, THIS IS A NIGHT MEETING, AND
3:31:17PM I WOULD SAY THAT PERHAPS THIS COUNCIL WOULD ENTERTAIN MOVING
3:31:22PM THIS DISCUSSION TO THE EVENING SESSION OF THE 21st SO TO
3:31:28PM AFFORD PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND TALK.
3:31:31PM PROBABLY MAKE IT EASIER ON EVERYBODY.
3:31:33PM AND WE COULD HAVE THIS QUESTION ASKED AND ANSWERED.
3:31:36PM I'LL TAKE ONE POINT OF PRIVILEGE TO SAY I WOULD ACTUALLY
3:31:40PM ALMOST -- IF I FELT THAT THE PLANT PARK WAS NOT PART OF THE
3:31:44PM INTEGRATED RIVERWALK IN ITS FULLEST AND BEST USE, I MAY
3:31:48PM CONSIDER A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE FUNDING OF THE WEST
3:31:50PM RIVER WALK BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE
3:31:55PM WEST RIVER PROJECT.
3:31:56PM THAT'S THAT A IS THE WEIGHT THAT I PUT ON THIS.
3:31:58PM AS MUCH AS I WANT TO KNOW THE FIDUCIARY SIDE OF THE LAND
3:32:02PM TRANSFER, BUT IF I FELT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A
3:32:06PM WITHDRAWAL OR PULL-BACK FROM USAGE OF THE PARK, I WOULD
3:32:10PM REALLY, REALLY CONSIDER MY DECISION.
3:32:13PM I'M A BIG ADVOCATE OF WEST RIVER WALK.
3:32:16PM I WAS AN ADVOCATE FOR IT AND I THINK IT IS A GOOD THING FOR
3:32:18PM THE CITY, BUT NOT IF WE MISS THIS GIGANTIC HOLE.
3:32:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO ACCEPT HIS RECOMMENDATION.
3:32:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION --
3:32:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOWEVER, TO MOVE IT TO THE EVENING SESSION ON
3:32:33PM THE 21st, MS. LUCAS, HOW MANY ITEMS CAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE
3:32:39PM ON STAFF REPORTS?
3:32:40PM I BELIEVE IT IS SEVEN.
3:32:42PM BUT I ALSO MOVE SINCE THERE IS A REGULAR SESSION BEFORE
3:32:44PM THAT, THAT WE LIMIT STAFF REPORTS TO FOUR SO THAT WE GET A
3:32:49PM BREAK DURING REGULAR SESSION OF THAT DAY.
3:32:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SECOND.
3:32:54PM MS. FEELEY WANTS TO STATE SOMETHING.
3:33:02PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SAY, PART OF THIS
3:33:08PM TOO AND I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP AT HISTORIC PRESERVATION,
3:33:11PM I'LL TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO GO BACK WITH MR. HERNANDEZ AND
3:33:14PM LOOK AT WHEN THE PARK WAS DESIGNATED BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS
3:33:17PM AN INTEGRAL PART IN THIS DISCUSSION.
3:33:19PM YOU CAN'T SAY TO SOMEBODY WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE HERE IF
3:33:22PM WE KNOW WE CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU.
3:33:24PM I THINK LEVEL-SETTING THOSE EXPECTATIONS IN RELATION TO THE
3:33:28PM HISTORIC LANDMARK NATURE OF THAT PARK IS ESSENTIAL IN THIS
3:33:31PM DISCUSSION.
3:33:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL, SINCE I
3:33:37PM COULDN'T FIND IT ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WEBSITE IT SHOWED
3:33:40PM UT AS OWNING ALL OF IT, TO ACTUALLY DELINEATE WHAT WE OWN.
3:33:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE HAVE THAT.
3:33:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND.
3:33:47PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: PROPERTY APPRAISER, THE PIECE IN THE GIS
3:33:52PM DOESN'T CLOSE.
3:33:54PM BUT WE DO HAVE THAT.
3:33:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
3:33:57PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S
3:33:59PM MAPS ARE NOT ALWAYS ACCURATE.
3:34:02PM AND THIS RELATIONSHIP, BECAUSE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN UT
3:34:06PM AND THE CITY IS LONG-STANDING AND THESE LEASES ARE LONG-TERM
3:34:12PM GROUND LEASES AND THEY OWN SOME PROPERTY HERE, WE LEASE SOME
3:34:15PM PROPERTY TO THEM THERE, IT'S VERY HARD FOR THE PROPERTY
3:34:18PM APPRAISER TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT.
3:34:19PM THAT'S WHY IT SHOWS UP THAT WAY.
3:34:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY ARE
3:34:24PM BOTH BASICALLY NON-TAXING AUTHORITIES, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY
3:34:28PM MATTER.
3:34:28PM I'M GOING TO RESCIND MY OTHER MOTION AND START AGAIN.
3:34:33PM I THINK THAT IS THE EASIER WAY TO DO IT.
3:34:35PM I WOULD LIKE ITEMS NUMBER 40 AND 42 TO BE CONTINUED TO THE
3:34:43PM EVENING SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL -- I'M SORRY, THE EVENING
3:34:49PM COUNCIL SESSION ON NOVEMBER 21.
3:34:57PM DO WE KNOW HOW MANY ITEMS WE HAVE FOR THE EVENING SESSION?
3:35:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT WOULDN'T BE SET YET.
3:35:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD WE ALSO CHOOSE TO LIMIT THE ITEMS THERE
3:35:08PM THAT WE COULD HEAR IN THE EVENING?
3:35:11PM THEY SAID NONE OF THE CONSENT.
3:35:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NOVEMBER, THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE FOR
3:35:19PM NOVEMBER WOULDN'T BE SET UNTIL MID OCTOBER.
3:35:21PM IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED.
3:35:23PM BUT I WOULD NEED TO TRY TO CHECK WITH MS. DOCK IN THE
3:35:26PM INTERIM TO SEE WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN FILED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE
3:35:29PM A PUBLISHED SCHEDULE AND THEY DO KNOW YOU WOULD CONSIDER 13
3:35:33PM ITEMS.
3:35:34PM I NEED TO GET THAT NUMBER, THAT ANSWER FOR YOU BEFORE I CAN
3:35:38PM SAY, YEAH, LIMIT IT.
3:35:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT A PROBLEM.
3:35:41PM IF WE NEED TO MOVE IT, WE CAN.
3:35:42PM LET ME FINISH MY MOTION.
3:35:44PM SO THE MOTION IS TO MOVE ITEMS 40 AND 42 TO NOVEMBER 1st
3:35:50PM EVENING SESSION -- ON NOVEMBER 21st.
3:35:55PM THAT WOULD INCLUDE INPUT FROM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND AN
3:36:06PM APPRAISAL AND A MAP SHOWING WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA ACTUALLY
3:36:15PM OWNS.
3:36:18PM I WAS GOING TO DO THAT LATER.
3:36:19PM MS. LUCAS, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LIMIT THE ITEMS FOR THE
3:36:22PM REGULAR SESSION IN A DIFFERENT MOTION?
3:36:23PM THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
3:36:27PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: COULD I INTERJECT?
3:36:30PM MAYBE ADD TO THE MOTION, THIS WOULD BE IN THE NATURE OF A
3:36:33PM PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT STAFF WOULD BE DIRECTED TO NOTIFY
3:36:36PM PROPERTIES OWNERS AND REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS IN THE
3:36:39PM SAME MANNER THAT WE WOULD FOR ANY SORT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT
3:36:42PM TYPE OF APPLICATION.
3:36:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
3:36:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. SHELBY.
3:36:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION.
3:36:50PM RELATED TO THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SPECIAL USES, WILL THOSE
3:36:57PM PRECEDE THIS OR FOLLOW THIS?
3:36:58PM IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHAT DO YOU THEN NOTIFY THE APPLICANTS
3:37:02PM FOR THE SPECIAL USES THAT ARE GOING TO BE SCHEDULED COMING
3:37:06PM IN ON NOVEMBER 21st?
3:37:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT IT FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
3:37:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, PUT IT FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
3:37:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND HOW LONG WILL THIS MEETING LAST?
3:37:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE WAIT AND SEE HOW MANY WE HAVE?
3:37:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
3:37:22PM SINCE THE AGENDA DOESN'T EXIST --
3:37:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE FINE.
3:37:26PM THANK YOU.
3:37:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:37:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:37:29PM IF WE PUT IT FIRST ON THE AGENDA, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A TIME
3:37:33PM LIMIT TO IT.
3:37:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAY SOMETHING LIKE WE WERE ELECTED TO BE
3:37:40PM HERE 24 HOURS A DAY.
3:37:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER PEOPLE WHO
3:37:47PM HAVE HEARINGS AND PUT IT BEFORE, THEN WE SHOULD CONSIDER A
3:37:49PM TIME LIMIT.
3:37:51PM >> LaCHONE JUST CONFIRMED THERE ARE SEVEN ALCOHOLIC
3:37:55PM BEVERAGE APPLICATIONS AND FOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS
3:37:57PM THAT NIGHT.
3:37:59PM SO YOU HAVE 11 ITEMS ALREADY.
3:38:02PM MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE YOU HEAR THE 11 FIRST AND HAVE THIS
3:38:05PM MAYBE A TIME CERTAIN LATER ON VERSUS MAKING THE 7 WAIT FOR
3:38:09PM THE DURATION OF OR IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SET A TIME LIMIT
3:38:13PM AS SUGGESTED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:38:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HONESTLY, WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK WE CAN
3:38:21PM ALSO CONSIDER JANUARY 30 OF 2025.
3:38:24PM WHERE THERE ARE NO ALCOHOL BEVERAGES BEING CONSIDERED.
3:38:31PM THEN I WOULD MOVE IT TO THE JANUARY 30th -- I'LL START
3:38:46PM AGAIN.
3:38:48PM ITEMS 40 AND 42 TO BE CONTINUED TO JANUARY 30, 2025, FOR
3:38:55PM ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT, APPRAISAL OF THE LAND UNDER THE
3:38:58PM BUILDING BEING CONSIDERED, AND A MAP SHOWING THE ACTUAL
3:39:03PM PARCELS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS RELATIVE TO THE REST OF
3:39:07PM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
3:39:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ABOUT -- PARK?
3:39:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:39:15PM THAT'S BOTH.
3:39:16PM IT'S ANYTHING THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF
3:39:18PM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA FOOTPRINT.
3:39:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
3:39:22PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
3:39:22PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:39:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:39:24PM AYE.
3:39:25PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:39:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 5:01.
3:39:30PM FIRST THING.
3:39:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANT A VOTE.
3:39:44PM MR. SHELBY WOULD KNOW WHAT TIME.
3:39:49PM 5:01 --
3:39:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DOES STAFF KNOW HOW
3:39:53PM MANY WOULD BE SET OR IS THERE A DETERMINATION OF HOW MANY
3:39:57PM CAN BE SET RELATIVE TO THAT NIGHT?
3:39:59PM IN OTHER WORDS, ARE WE REMOVING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SPECIAL
3:40:03PM USES FROM THAT EVENING OR NOT?
3:40:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY DON'T HAVE THAT YET.
3:40:06PM THIS IS TOO FAR IN ADVANCE.
3:40:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY HAD NOVEMBER 21st, BUT JANUARY 25
3:40:13PM --
3:40:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 30.
3:40:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: TYPICALLY, I CAN'T SPEAK THIS RIGHT NOW,
3:40:18PM TYPICALLY YOU DO NOT HAVE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE IN NOVEMBER OR IN
3:40:21PM DECEMBER BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS.
3:40:23PM SO WHEN APPLICANTS COME IN, THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS A 60-DAY
3:40:29PM LULL ON THOSE HEARINGS.
3:40:31PM THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS OR SO.
3:40:34PM SO I DON'T WANT TO THEN PUT SMALL BUSINESSES OR OTHER PEOPLE
3:40:38PM IN A POSITION WHERE THEN THERE'S NO ALCOHOL IN JANUARY, BUT
3:40:43PM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULE EXACTLY PUBLISHED
3:40:46PM YET, BUT I CAN WORK ON THAT.
3:40:49PM JANUARY 30th, ISN'T THAT THE FIFTH THURSDAY OF THE MONTH?
3:41:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MEETINGS ON THE
3:41:03PM 2nd.
3:41:04PM SO THERE'S ONLY FOUR WEEKS.
3:41:06PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: TYPICALLY EVENING MEETINGS ARE ON THE SECOND
3:41:10PM AND FOURTH THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.
3:41:11PM SO THIS WOULD BE EXTRA.
3:41:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN JANUARY THEY ARE ON THE THIRD AND FIFTH
3:41:16PM BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FIRST WEEK OFF.
3:41:18PM IT WIGGLES ITS WAY.
3:41:19PM WOULD IT BE BEST TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ALCOHOL PERMITS TO
3:41:23PM FIVE INSTEAD OF SEVEN AND NO REZONING HEARINGS?
3:41:29PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THERE WOULDN'T BE --
3:41:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, PLAN AMENDMENTS.
3:41:33PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK THAT'S FINE.
3:41:36PM I'M LOOKING AT ERIC.
3:41:39PM I THINK THAT'S FINE.
3:41:40PM WE WOULD JUST NOTATE ON THE SCHEDULE TO THE APPLICANTS THAT
3:41:43PM WE WOULD BE TAKING THE FIRST FIVE CASES AND THEN WHATEVER.
3:41:46PM IF WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT PERHAPS AND COME TO
3:41:49PM YOU AND SAY WE NEED AN EXTRA ON ANOTHER NIGHT, MAYBE THAT
3:41:53PM WOULD, BUT WE'D HAVE TO SEE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T FILE YET
3:41:57PM FOR JANUARY.
3:41:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT'S FINE.
3:41:59PM FIVE ALCOHOL CASES ON THE EVENING OF JANUARY 30th.
3:42:05PM NO MORE THAN.
3:42:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:42:12PM CLENDENIN.
3:42:14PM MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU READY.
3:42:16PM I'M GOING TO VOTE.
3:42:17PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:42:18PM AYE.
3:42:19PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:42:19PM NAY.
3:42:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DON'T LIKE IT.
3:42:23PM CAN WE HAVE DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT.
3:42:25PM I KNOW SHE MADE A MOTION --
3:42:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAD A LOT --
3:42:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, YOU DIDN'T.
3:42:29PM YOU JUMPED RIGHT TO THE MOTION.
3:42:31PM I JUST THINK WE SHOULD KEEP ALCOHOL AND NOT ADD ANYTHING
3:42:38PM ELSE TO IT AND JUST FIND ANOTHER DAY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE
3:42:42PM AND ADVERTISE IT.
3:42:45PM I DON'T FEEL THAT WE SHOULD BLEND THOSE TWO THINGS, EVEN
3:42:49PM THOUGH WE DO NEED TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC
3:42:52PM TO COME --
3:42:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT A SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING?
3:42:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, WE CAN DO A SPECIAL CALL.
3:42:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE
3:43:00PM ALCOHOL DAY AND I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT.
3:43:02PM I WOULD SUPPORT HAVING IT BUT NOT ON THAT DAY BECAUSE IT'S
3:43:05PM ALSO CLOSER TO THE HOLIDAY AS WELL.
3:43:07PM WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO INTO THANKSGIVING.
3:43:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
3:43:11PM IT WOULD BE JANUARY 30th.
3:43:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THOUGHT YOU SAID NOVEMBER 21st.
3:43:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, TOO MANY ALCOHOL CASES.
3:43:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO MUCH GOING ON HERE, I AM LOSING IT.
3:43:21PM SO YOU SAID JANUARY --
3:43:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 30th.
3:43:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALCOHOL.
3:43:26PM I'M SORRY.
3:43:26PM I THOUGHT WE WERE NOVEMBER 21st.
3:43:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JANUARY 30th AND LIMITING THE ALCOHOL CASES
3:43:32PM TO FIVE.
3:43:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE RIGHT NOW.
3:43:35PM OKAY.
3:43:36PM FINE.
3:43:36PM IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, I CAN BE AGREEABLE.
3:43:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE REASON I WILL ARGUE FOR IT AS WELL IS THE
3:43:44PM FACT THAT WAY STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO COME TO US.
3:43:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SOMETHING WE ALREADY DO.
3:43:49PM OKAY.
3:43:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE PER THE
3:43:51PM REQUEST OF THE CLERK.
3:43:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:43:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:43:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
3:43:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
3:43:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:43:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
3:44:00PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO AND
3:44:03PM MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
3:44:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE MORE MOTION.
3:44:11PM I HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. MULKEY NOT QUITE SURE WHEN WE'RE
3:44:20PM GOING TO DO THIS, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING FORWARD.
3:44:22PM AGAIN, THIS MIGHT ALSO BE WITH THE LEGAL STAFF, BUT I THINK
3:44:29PM ONE THING THAT WASN'T GIVEN TO US -- ONE OF THE PIECES OF
3:44:34PM INFORMATION WHEN WE WERE TOLD ABOUT THE WEST RIVER WALK,
3:44:36PM THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING.
3:44:39PM THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HADN'T
3:44:41PM GOTTEN AGREEMENTS TO USE SOME OF THE SPACE YET.
3:44:44PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING OR A HEARING -- I DON'T
3:44:48PM KNOW WHAT THE TIMETABLE WOULD BE, BUT JUST TO FIND OUT WHICH
3:44:52PM PARTS OF THE RIVERWALK ARE ACCESSIBLE, WILL BE ACCESSIBLE.
3:44:57PM I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, IF WE'RE PUTTING $80 MILLION
3:45:01PM INTO THIS, TO NOT HAVE IT BE ACCESSIBLE ALL THE TIME.
3:45:04PM I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW THAT.
3:45:07PM AS MR. CLENDENIN SAID, IT COULD CHANGE THINGS.
3:45:10PM AND WE WERE NOT TOLD OF THIS WHEN THE DISCUSSION CAME ABOUT
3:45:15PM THE RIVERWALK.
3:45:16PM WE WERE SHOWN A PLAN THAT WE WEREN'T TOLD THAT IT WAS --
3:45:25PM THAT THERE WERE STILL NEGOTIATIONS TO BE HAD.
3:45:30PM >> TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION.
3:45:34PM MY COMMENT WAS REFERRING TO THE CURRENT EASEMENT AGREEMENT
3:45:37PM AT THAT ONE LOCATION.
3:45:38PM WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK AND REVIEW AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO
3:45:42PM COUNCIL FOR INFORMATION ON THAT.
3:45:43PM BECAUSE AS FAR AS THE LEGAL ASPECT OF IT, I MIGHT NOT HAVE
3:45:48PM ALL THE UPDATED INFORMATION ON THAT.
3:45:50PM OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRANSPARENT WITH ALL
3:45:52PM THAT.
3:45:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
3:45:54PM SO I'D LIKE TO DO THAT AFTER OUR JANUARY WORKSHOP.
3:45:59PM PERHAPS FEBRUARY 20th, 2025.
3:46:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCIL MEMBER.
3:46:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT WAITING THAT LONG IS
3:46:11PM ARE -- WHERE ARE WE AT AS FAR AS CONTRACTS, BONDING,
3:46:15PM SPENDING MONEY?
3:46:16PM BECAUSE IF THIS BECOMES SO UNTENABLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO
3:46:20PM PULL SUPPORT FOR THIS CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE OF THIS MAJOR
3:46:25PM ISSUE OF LACK OF USE OF PROPERTY, I DON'T WANT IT TO GET TOO
3:46:30PM FAR AWAY FROM US.
3:46:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
3:46:33PM I THINK A BIG RESOUNDING PART OF THE USE OF PROPERTY IS THE
3:46:36PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
3:46:37PM THAT IS THE ONLY REASON.
3:46:38PM AS WE FOUND, BECAUSE THIS TOOK OVER TWO YEARS TO PUT
3:46:42PM TOGETHER, THESE NEGOTIATIONS AREN'T QUICK.
3:46:46PM I'M HAPPY TO DO IT EARLIER, BUT THAT WAS MY MAIN REASON.
3:46:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THROW THAT OUT IN THE ATMOSPHERE.
3:46:52PM I WON'T TAKE IT ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.
3:46:54PM JUST A CONCERN I DON'T WANT TO PUT --
3:46:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. MULKEY, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND?
3:47:01PM >>TONY MULKEY: I WOULD HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK TO OUR PLANNING
3:47:04PM TEAM AS WELL AS REAL ESTATE TO KIND OF GET AN UPDATE ON
3:47:06PM THAT, AND I CAN PROVIDE A COMMUNICATION TO COUNCIL IF THAT
3:47:12PM WOULD SUFFICE AND TRY AND MOVE THAT ALONG QUICKLY.
3:47:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND INSTEAD OF FEBRUARY,
3:47:19PM I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE YOU COME BACK TO TALK ABOUT THE
3:47:25PM AREAS THAT ARE STILL UNDER NEGOTIATION AND THE AREAS THAT
3:47:28PM WILL BE CLOSED AND WHEN THEY WILL BE CLOSED AND A MAP
3:47:31PM INCLUDING WHEN THEY WILL BE CLOSED AND WHERE THEY WILL BE
3:47:34PM CLOSED.
3:47:34PM ON NOVEMBER 7.
3:47:37PM AND IF YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT, JUST REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE
3:47:40PM AND WE'RE HAPPY TO MOVE IT.
3:47:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
3:47:44PM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:47:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT A WRITTEN REPORT OR SOMETHING THAT
3:47:48PM IS A STAFF REPORT?
3:47:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE A WRITTEN REPORT BUT ALSO A
3:47:51PM STAFF REPORT.
3:47:52PM I THINK THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
3:47:54PM I LOOKED.
3:47:55PM WE ONLY HAVE ONE STAFF REPORT THAT DAY.
3:47:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
3:47:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:47:59PM AYE.
3:47:59PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:48:00PM IT'S UNANIMOUS.
3:48:03PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:48:04PM THAT CONCLUDES THE PULLED ITEMS.
3:48:08PM WE'LL GO TO ITEM 71.
3:48:16PM ITEM 71, WE HAVE THE FIRE CHIEF HERE.
3:48:23PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THAT WAS YOUR MOTION.
3:48:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM CHIEF TRIPP ON THIS.
3:48:32PM I PUSHED THESE BACK A FEW WEEKS JUST BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET
3:48:35PM SO WE COULD MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS AND ALL THAT.
3:48:38PM I KNOW THIS INCLUDES K-BAR RANCH, CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN.
3:48:42PM REALLY, CHIEF, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE,
3:48:45PM OBVIOUSLY THE TWO BIG THINGS I'M LOOKING AT IS 24, WHICH WE
3:48:49PM TALKED ABOUT, BUT ESPECIALLY HOW WE'RE DOING WITH PROPERTY
3:48:52PM ACQUISITION FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE.
3:48:54PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
3:48:58PM AS FAR AS 24, WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
3:49:04PM WE'RE IN THE DESIGN PHASE.
3:49:07PM WE'VE DISCUSSED IT.
3:49:08PM WISH IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED YESTERDAY.
3:49:11PM I'M PUSHING AS MUCH AS I CAN FOR THAT.
3:49:14PM AS FAR AS K-BAR RANCH, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN IN DISCUSSION, AS
3:49:18PM FAR AS ACCESS TO THAT BACK ROAD OFF OF MORRIS BRIDGE BUT
3:49:21PM ALSO MONITORING THE DATA AS WELL AND ALSO GETTING READY TO
3:49:25PM PUT A TRANSPORT UNIT IN THAT AREA FOR STATION 22.
3:49:29PM THAT GOES ALONG WITH -- ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL TO HELP ASSIST
3:49:33PM WITH THAT.
3:49:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
3:49:35PM HOW ARE WE DOING, IF I MAY ASK, ON THAT ACCESS ROAD?
3:49:39PM I KNOW WE RECENTLY HAD THE HEARINGS.
3:49:41PM HOW ARE WE DOING ON THAT?
3:49:43PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: LET ME REACH OUT TO LEGAL AND SEE IF THEY
3:49:46PM HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT.
3:49:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
3:49:48PM THANK YOU.
3:49:53PM >> MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE.
3:49:56PM HOPEFULLY WE HAVE GOOD NEWS THAT CAME IN TODAY AT LUNCH.
3:49:59PM WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY
3:50:03PM PURSUING.
3:50:04PM ONE OF THEM IS A PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN ALLUDED TO SEVERAL
3:50:07PM TIMES, AS CHIEF TRIPP HAS COME UP TO YOU.
3:50:09PM WE RAN INTO SOME OWNERSHIP ISSUES.
3:50:11PM WE RECEIVED A CALL RIGHT AT LUNCHTIME DURING THE BREAK THAT
3:50:15PM THEY HOPE TO HAVE THAT RESOLVED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
3:50:18PM IF THEY DO, WE'VE ALREADY HAD A DRAFT CONTRACT.
3:50:21PM WE WILL BE READY TO GO RIGHT INTO NEGOTIATIONS AND CONTRACTS
3:50:24PM AND HOPEFULLY GET THAT RESOLVED.
3:50:27PM WE ALSO HAVE A PROPERTY THAT WE LOOKED AT ABOUT 12 TO 18
3:50:30PM MONTHS AGO THAT WAS ALSO A DECENT PROPERTY, GOOD VIABLE
3:50:33PM PROPERTY, BUT IT HAD SOME TENANT LEASE ISSUES AND A LITTLE
3:50:38PM TOO COMPLICATED FOR US.
3:50:39PM WE DIDN'T WANT TO STEP IN AS THE LANDLORD AND DEAL WITH SOME
3:50:43PM OF THOSE.
3:50:43PM NOW THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS RESOLVED ALL THOSE ISSUES AND IS
3:50:46PM NOW IN A POSITION TO TALK TO US ABOUT POTENTIALLY ACQUIRING
3:50:51PM THAT PROPERTY.
3:50:52PM SO WE HAVE BOTH A VERY VIABLE PROPERTY THAT COULD BE
3:50:55PM SOMETHING WE'RE MOVING ON IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
3:50:57PM IF NOT, WE HAVE A VERY VIABLE PROPERTY AS A BACKUP.
3:51:01PM THAT ONE GOES SLOWER.
3:51:02PM THE PROPERTY OWNER IS CURRENTLY IN EUROPE.
3:51:05PM THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT YOU READ ABOUT IN THE PAPERS.
3:51:07PM A LOT OF OUR LOCAL OWNERS ARE NOT ALL LOCAL.
3:51:10PM THEY OWN LOCAL PROPERTY, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE RIGHT IN THE
3:51:14PM IMMEDIATE VICINITY.
3:51:15PM SO WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL FINALLY COME TO A
3:51:20PM CLOSE.
3:51:20PM ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS A LOT OF TIMES WHEN
3:51:23PM CHIEF TRIPP HAS BEEN UP HERE UPDATING YOU, THIS SEEMS LIKE
3:51:26PM EVERY FEW MONTHS, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMENTS AND
3:51:28PM CONVERSATION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WELL, DID WE DO THIS AND
3:51:31PM DID WE DO THAT?
3:51:32PM AND WHAT EXACTLY HAVE WE BEEN DOING THE PAST TWO YEARS AS WE
3:51:35PM TRY TO GO AND FIND THIS PROPERTY?
3:51:37PM TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WE VETTED 28 PROPERTIES.
3:51:41PM THOSE WERE 28 PROPERTIES THAT OUR STAFF VETTED AND THEN
3:51:45PM BROUGHT TO CHIEF TRIPP.
3:51:46PM WE'RE DOING SITE VISITS.
3:51:48PM WE'RE LOOKING AT CONFIGURATIONS.
3:51:50PM THAT 28 NUMBER DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT JUST
3:51:54PM OUR STAFF LOOKED AT AND ELIMINATED BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A
3:51:58PM FLOODPLAIN.
3:51:59PM WE CAN'T PUT ALL OF THAT EQUIPMENT, ESPECIALLY DURING
3:52:02PM EMERGENCIES, IN A FLOOD ZONE.
3:52:04PM WE HAD TO ELIMINATE, SELL THE PROPERTIES.
3:52:06PM EVEN ONE WE FOUND RECENTLY OFF OF MARITIME THAT WAS EIGHT
3:52:09PM ACRES BUT IT'S IN THE FLOOD ZONE.
3:52:11PM WE CAN'T LOOK AT THOSE.
3:52:12PM WE GET AS CREATIVE AS TO LOOK AT PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE
3:52:15PM LISTED AND ONLY 2.5 OR 3 ACRES, AND WE'RE GOING TO THE
3:52:19PM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AND COLD CALLING TO FIND OUT IF THEY
3:52:22PM WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL TO US.
3:52:24PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO TRY AND DO
3:52:27PM A THREE-WAY SWAP IN ORDER TO GET THEIR PROPERTY ON
3:52:30PM HILLSBOROUGH AND FIND A PLACE TO RELOCATE THEIR BUSES.
3:52:33PM NEITHER THEY NOR WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN TRYING TO FIND A
3:52:37PM PLACE TO RELOCATE THE BUSES TO.
3:52:39PM ONE PROPERTY OWNER, SAYS, HEY, IF YOU CAN FIND A PROPERTY IN
3:52:42PM THE COUNTY, WE'LL SELL YOU OUR PROPERTY IN THE CITY.
3:52:45PM WE EVEN HAD ONE PROPERTY OWNER WHO SAID, WELL, IF YOU WANT
3:52:48PM TO GO AHEAD AND FILE EMINENT DOMAIN, THEN WE WOULD BE HAPPY
3:52:51PM TO WORK WITH YOU ON OUR PROPERTY.
3:52:53PM WE GET ALL SORTS OF FEEDBACK, COMMENTS AND SELLERS THAT
3:52:57PM WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DEAL WITH.
3:52:59PM WE DO A LOT OF COLD CALLING.
3:53:02PM JUST BECAUSE AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THE PAST THREE YEARS, IT'S
3:53:05PM BEEN A VERY, VERY TIGHT MARKET, ESPECIALLY WHEN LOOKING OVER
3:53:09PM FIVE ACRES PLUS.
3:53:11PM HOPEFULLY THIS WILL FINALLY COME TO AN END, THAT WE'LL BE
3:53:14PM ABLE TO START DOING THE DESIGN.
3:53:15PM YOU'VE GOT YOUR NEW CONSULTANT THAT IS GOING TO BE ON BOARD
3:53:18PM THROUGH CONTRACT ADMIN TO ASSIST THE CHIEF ON HER FOOTPRINT
3:53:22PM AND A FEASIBILITY ON ALL OUR PROPERTIES MOVING FORWARD.
3:53:26PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
3:53:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S FUNNY, MS. FANAL, PLEASURE TO SEE YOU
3:53:34PM HERE.
3:53:35PM YOU ARE WONDERFUL.
3:53:37PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN HAD MENTIONED WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A
3:53:40PM GREAT IDEA, TALKING TO A LOT OF FIREFIGHTERS.
3:53:44PM THAT HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA TO SEE IF WE HAD TO DO
3:53:46PM IT IN CITY LIMITS.
3:53:48PM DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS WITHIN CITY LIMITS?
3:53:51PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WE DID LOOK PREVIOUSLY AT PROPERTIES
3:53:55PM OUTSIDE THE CITY.
3:53:56PM UNFORTUNATELY AS YOU GET TOO FAR EAST, YOUR ACCESS FROM A
3:53:59PM LOGISTIC FEASIBILITY.
3:54:01PM SINCE IT CAME UP AT COUNCIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND WE
3:54:04PM ALSO THEN OFFICIALLY FELT, YOU ALL FELT IT MIGHT BE
3:54:07PM SOMETHING YOU WOULD LOOK AT, WE DID EXPAND OUR SEARCH ON THE
3:54:11PM EASTERN CORRIDOR, BASICALLY ABOUT HILLSBOROUGH TO ADAMO JUST
3:54:15PM EAST OF THE CITY LINE AND WE ARE CURRENTLY VETTING THREE
3:54:19PM ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES TO BRING TO THE CHIEF.
3:54:21PM AGAIN, WE DON'T STOP LOOKING UNTIL WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT FOR
3:54:27PM ACQUISITION OF A PROPERTY.
3:54:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:54:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COULD YOU EXPAND ON THE WEST SIDE, TOO,
3:54:33PM THE DALE MABRY CORRIDOR, DALE MABRY TO THE EAST?
3:54:36PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MOST OF THE PROPERTIES WE LOOK AT OUT
3:54:38PM THERE FOR THE CHIEF LOGISTIC BEING CENTRAL ACCESS TO
3:54:44PM STATIONS AND UP NORTH AND THE OTHER FLEET, FOR THE FIRE
3:54:48PM OPERATIONS, IT IS MOST EFFECTIVE IF WE FOCUS ON THE EAST.
3:54:52PM WE DO LOOK BUT THEY HAVE EITHER BEEN TO GET THE LARGER
3:54:55PM PROPERTIES, THEY HAVE EITHER BEEN TOO FAR WEST OR WAY NORTH
3:54:59PM OF THE UNIVERSITY AREA.
3:55:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'VE LOOKED AT, JUST HAVEN'T FOUND A
3:55:03PM PROPERTY SUITABLE.
3:55:04PM >> YES.
3:55:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
3:55:06PM REALLY QUICK, IF I MAY.
3:55:09PM WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION FOR THESE TO COME BACK
3:55:13PM TO US.
3:55:13PM I'LL LOOK AT THE CALENDAR FOR A GIVEN TIME.
3:55:16PM WE ALWAYS GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THIS AND GOOD TO HAVE
3:55:19PM THE MOST UPDATED INFORMATION.
3:55:20PM IT PROBABLY WILL BE A WRITTEN REPORT, WHATEVER AND TALK TO
3:55:23PM YOU ALL OFF-LINE ABOUT IT.
3:55:27PM QUICK QUESTION FOR CHIEF TRIPP, IF I MAY.
3:55:30PM WE MENTION HERE DOWNTOWN.
3:55:32PM I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON EXPANDING ONE, A
3:55:36PM LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF MY PROFESSIONAL
3:55:38PM SPECIALTY, OBVIOUSLY.
3:55:42PM WHAT AT THIS TIME?
3:55:43PM OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE YOUR OWN WISH LIST AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY
3:55:46PM CONSTRAINED BY THINGS.
3:55:48PM I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, YOU WANT
3:55:51PM MORE ACTION DOWNTOWN TO MEET THE NEEDS OF DOWNTOWN.
3:55:54PM I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
3:55:57PM >> NO, THAT IS TRUE.
3:55:58PM I'M IN THE PROCESS OF ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL TO ADD AN
3:56:01PM ADDITIONAL RESCUE CAR.
3:56:04PM BEING IN THIS POSITION THE LAST FEW YEARS, EVERYTHING IS
3:56:08PM OUTDATED.
3:56:09PM SO THE WAY WE DISPATCH OUR CALLS IS USING MORE RESOURCES
3:56:14PM THAN WE NEED.
3:56:15PM ONCE WE GET THE CAD SYSTEM THAT WILL ELIMINATE A LOT OF
3:56:19PM THAT.
3:56:20PM UP UNTIL THEN, I AM LOOKING TO ADD ANOTHER UNIT TO STATION
3:56:23PM ONE AND THAT UNIT WILL HELP WITH ALL OF THE MEDICAL CALLS
3:56:25PM THAT GOES ON IN DOWNTOWN.
3:56:27PM I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN LOOKING AT PROPERTY RIGHT OUTSIDE OF
3:56:30PM DOWNTOWN PROPERTY.
3:56:32PM IT WAS ONE LOCATION THAT WE USED TO HAVE.
3:56:35PM ACTUALLY A CITY BUILDING THAT'S THERE.
3:56:38PM USED TO BE AN OLD DISPATCH SYSTEM.
3:56:40PM I'M LOOKING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN PUT ON THERE.
3:56:44PM EVEN IF WE PUT ONE OF THE POTABLE FIRE STATIONS TO HELP WITH
3:56:47PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
3:56:48PM HAVEN'T STOPPED.
3:56:50PM I'M WATCHING MY NUMBERS.
3:56:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: QUESTION FOR YOU, WHICH IS, WHAT WOULD YOU
3:56:55PM NEED FROM US, IF ANYTHING AT THIS TIME, REQUEST FOR A
3:56:59PM FEASIBILITY STUDY AND HOW TO PROCEED WITH DOWNTOWN.
3:57:02PM THAT'S HOW WE STARTED ON STATION 25, IT WOULD GO FROM 24 TO
3:57:06PM 25 AND NOW DOING 24, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US.
3:57:10PM WOULD IT BE A FEASIBILITY STUDY REQUEST TO MOVE THIS ALONG
3:57:13PM AND PUT PRESSURE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN?
3:57:18PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A FEASIBILITY
3:57:19PM STUDY, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING TAMPA FIRE IS GOING TO NEED
3:57:23PM IN THE FUTURE.
3:57:23PM I'M NOT SAYING AT THIS MOMENT ONLY BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO
3:57:26PM IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WAS RECOMMENDED
3:57:29PM FROM THE PREVIOUS NEEDS STUDY.
3:57:32PM WITH THAT, IT SHOWS WE NEED ADDITIONAL UNITS.
3:57:35PM OF COURSE, WE'RE GROWING.
3:57:38PM MORE PEOPLE COMING.
3:57:40PM AS FAR AS DOWNTOWN, THE CALL VOLUME, IT'S THERE, BUT THEY
3:57:43PM ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING OUTSKIRTS OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
3:57:46PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS COME BACK WITH YOU WITH SOME
3:57:48PM DATA.
3:57:49PM MAYBE THE FIRST OR SECOND QUARTER TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE
3:57:53PM CALL VOLUME HAS BEEN DOWNTOWN AND BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU WITH
3:57:57PM THE MEDICAL VERSUS FIRE-RELATED CALLS AND SEE WHERE WE GO
3:58:00PM FROM THERE.
3:58:01PM >> I'M MONITORING THE DATA.
3:58:02PM I GET MONTHLY REPORTS.
3:58:04PM JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW AS WELL, TAMPA FIRE MEETS WITH
3:58:08PM MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS ONCE A MONTH, SOMETIMES EVERY THREE
3:58:12PM WEEKS, TO STAY ON TARGET WITH ALL THE INITIATIVES THAT WE
3:58:15PM HAVE GOING ON.
3:58:16PM THAT'S WHERE REAL ESTATE COME IN.
3:58:18PM I HAVE LEGAL THERE.
3:58:19PM I HAVE LAM THERE.
3:58:20PM I HAVE ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE NEED
3:58:23PM THIS, AND NEED THIS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PUSHING THE
3:58:27PM PEDAL ALONG.
3:58:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AT MOTION
3:58:33PM TIME, LASTLY I KNOW WE HAD GIVEN AN EXTENSION ON THE UPDATED
3:58:36PM PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN TO MARCH -- BECAUSE I GUESS YOU'RE
3:58:39PM UPDATING THE ONE OF 2022, THE STUDY, SO MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT
3:58:43PM THAT AROUND THAT TIME.
3:58:44PM THAT'S ALL.
3:58:45PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
3:58:45PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I'LL AGREE WITH YOU.
3:58:47PM I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED ONE.
3:58:49PM YES, WE DO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE A WASTE OF MONEY WHEN
3:58:53PM THEY ARE GOING TO TELL US THE SAME THING THIS PREVIOUS STUDY
3:58:57PM HAS DONE.
3:58:58PM AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS DOING NOW TRYING TO
3:59:00PM IMPLEMENT A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN.
3:59:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
3:59:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:59:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
3:59:08PM I REALLY DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
3:59:10PM I JUST HAVE A COMMENT FOR MS. VAN LOAN.
3:59:13PM YOU SAID WE DO A LOT OF COLD CALLING.
3:59:15PM THAT KIND OF TRIGGERED ME.
3:59:17PM YOU ARE LIKE THESE PEOPLE, THE INVESTMENT FOLKS THAT CALL
3:59:21PM OUR HOUSE ASKING TO BUY THE PROPERTY, THE CITY IS PART OF
3:59:24PM THAT PROCESS.
3:59:25PM THAT'S VERY INTERESTING TO ME.
3:59:26PM DO YOU GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TELLING YOU NO?
3:59:28PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: REAL ESTATE.
3:59:30PM WE DON'T QUITE CALL YOU AT 7:00 OR 9:00 AT NIGHT.
3:59:33PM WE USUALLY START WITH LETTERS THAT WE WILL SEND TO THE
3:59:37PM PROPERTY OWNER OF RECORD.
3:59:39PM IF WE KNOW THEY ARE ACTUALLY OPERATING THE BUSINESS, WE MAY
3:59:44PM FOLLOW UP IN PERSON AT THE BUSINESS OR CALL THE BUSINESS
3:59:46PM DIRECTLY, BUT WE ARE NOT LOOKING UP WHERE THEY LIVE AND DO
3:59:50PM IT THAT WAY.
3:59:51PM YES, WE ARE LIKE ANY INVESTOR.
3:59:53PM WE'RE GOING AFTER PROPERTY THE SAME WAY EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
3:59:56PM WE DON'T HAVE SECRET TIPS ON HOW TO GO OUT AND REACH PEOPLE.
4:00:01PM IT IS A NUMBERS GAME AND YOU GO OUT AND REACH OUT TO AS MANY
4:00:04PM PROPERTIES THAT YOU CAN FIND THAT YOU HOPE MIGHT MEET THE
4:00:07PM CRITERIA YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
4:00:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ARE THERE OTHER THINGS WE'RE CONSIDERING
4:00:10PM THAT WE NEED PROPERTY FOR BESIDES THIS?
4:00:14PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: RIGHT NOW, THIS IS OUR BIGGEST PRIORITY
4:00:17PM THAT WE ARE PURSUING.
4:00:18PM THERE ARE A FEW THINGS DOWN THE ROAD WHERE WE KNOW THERE IS
4:00:21PM A LEASE THAT WILL COME UP IN TWO TO THREE YEARS.
4:00:24PM BUT, AGAIN, WITH PROPERTY, IF WE FIND SOMETHING THAT IS A
4:00:27PM GOOD DEAL, THIS JUST ISN'T THE MARKET RIGHT NOW WITH THINGS
4:00:31PM BEING SO TIGHT.
4:00:32PM THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT INTEREST RATES FLATTENING OUT OR IT
4:00:36PM MIGHT BECOME A BUYER'S MARKET AGAIN.
4:00:38PM I WOULD SAY THIS HAS BEEN THE HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR
4:00:40PM ADMINISTRATION AS FAR AS NEW ACQUISITIONS.
4:00:42PM WE ALSO DO LOOK AT THE HOUSING, BUT WE TEND TO LOOK AT MUCH
4:00:46PM SMALLER PARCELS FOR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPARED TO THIS.
4:00:48PM THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO FIND.
4:00:52PM YOU HEAR MS. HENDERSON COME IN OR MS. FEELEY COME IN AND
4:00:55PM TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THOSE AS WE LOOK AT
4:01:00PM HELPING TO FINANCE NEW TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND NEW
4:01:03PM MULTIFAMILY HOUSING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
4:01:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. HENDERSON IS GONE.
4:01:12PM I UNDERSTAND.
4:01:12PM THANK YOU.
4:01:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHILE YOU'RE UP HERE, I WANTED TO SAY -- YOU
4:01:17PM KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS OFF-LINE SOME AND WITH
4:01:20PM OTHER THINGS, I WANT TO SAY WHAT A GREAT JOB YOU AND YOUR
4:01:24PM STAFF ARE DOING AND THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET YOUR NEW GIS
4:01:28PM SYSTEM THAT WILL MAKE THIS NO LONGER AN INDIVIDUAL PHYSICAL
4:01:32PM JOB AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO A LOT MORE.
4:01:35PM JUST VERY EXCITED FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM TO GET SOME UPGRADED
4:01:40PM EQUIPMENT.
4:01:40PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I ALSO FOUND OUT, E-MAIL WHILE SITTING
4:01:42PM THERE, MY NEW GIS TECH AND REAL ESTATE TECH IS OFFICIALLY
4:01:47PM STARTING NOVEMBER 16.
4:01:48PM SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT ALSO.
4:01:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS.
4:01:52PM AND CHIEF TRIPP, ALONG THE LINES OF COUNCILMAN VIERA'S
4:01:56PM QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS YOU NEED, THE ONLY THING I DIDN'T
4:01:59PM HEAR HIM TALK ABOUT WAS PERSONNEL, BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS
4:02:02PM HAVE NOT CHANGED, BUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF
4:02:07PM TAMPA HAS CHANGED.
4:02:10PM I KNOW YOU WERE LOOKING AND WAITING FOR THE 17 PEOPLE TO SEE
4:02:14PM IF WE CAN GET THE GRANT.
4:02:15PM IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US IN TERMS
4:02:19PM OF PERSONNEL?
4:02:20PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: IT'S 18 THAT I REQUESTED.
4:02:22PM IF I DON'T GET 18, I'LL TAKE HALF.
4:02:26PM I'LL TAKE HALF JUST TO TRY TO GET A COUPLE OF THOSE UNITS IN
4:02:30PM AND MAKE SURE I CAN ASK FOR A COUPLE MORE.
4:02:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
4:02:33PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
4:02:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
4:02:35PM DOES THAT SATISFY THE MOTION?
4:02:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
4:02:40PM THANK YOU.
4:02:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:02:41PM NEXT IS ITEM 73.
4:02:43PM WE HAVE MS. KELLY AUSTIN, DIRECTOR OF HR AND TALENT
4:02:49PM DEVELOPMENT WITH A VERBAL REPORT AND SHE HAS HER TEAM WITH
4:02:52PM HER.
4:02:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE YOU ALL, I GET STOPPED ON THE STREETS
4:03:00PM BY EMPLOYEES.
4:03:01PM I GET CALLS FROM EMPLOYEES, AND THEY GIVE ANONYMOUS FEEDBACK
4:03:06PM ALL THE TIME.
4:03:08PM AND ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK I GOT A COUPLE OF TIMES
4:03:12PM WAS THEY THINK THAT WE NEED MORE LEADERSHIP TRAINING.
4:03:17PM THIS WAS NOT MY IDEA.
4:03:18PM IT CAME FROM EMPLOYEES WHO GAVE IT TO ME ANONYMOUSLY.
4:03:21PM I'M JUST PASSING IT ON.
4:03:26PM >> KELLY AUSTIN, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT
4:03:32PM DEVELOPMENT.
4:03:32PM THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN FRONT OF
4:03:35PM COUNCIL TODAY.
4:03:35PM THE TIMING IS VERY NICE BECAUSE AFTER 28 YEARS OF FAITHFULLY
4:03:41PM SERVING THE CITY, KAY HUNTER IS RETIRING.
4:03:44PM KAY HAS BEEN THE FACE OF TRAINING FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
4:03:50PM SHE IS THE ONE WHO IMPARTS A CULTURE OF SERVICE TO EMPLOYEES
4:03:53PM WHEN THEY WALK THROUGH THE DOOR ON DAY ONE.
4:03:56PM STAY TUNED, COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE'LL BE CELEBRATING KAY NEXT
4:04:00PM MONTH.
4:04:00PM WE ARE PASSING THE TORCH OFF.
4:04:02PM SHE'S HELPING US WITH THE TRANSITION.
4:04:04PM I WOULD BE PROUD TO INTRODUCE TO COUNCIL DR. SABRINA LEWIS
4:04:08PM WHO JOINS US.
4:04:09PM SHE IS NOT FROM UT.
4:04:11PM SHE IS FROM USF, WHERE SHE SPENT 19 YEARS WORKING AT THE
4:04:16PM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA AS WELL AS BEING A GRADUATE OF
4:04:19PM USF.
4:04:19PM DR. LEWIS' EXPERTISE IS IN ADULT LEARNING SO IT DOVETAILS
4:04:25PM NICELY WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS HEARING FROM FEEDBACK
4:04:29PM FROM EMPLOYEES.
4:04:29PM BEFORE I GO INTO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE FUTURE
4:04:34PM UNDER DR. LEWIS AND HER NEW TENURE WITH THE CITY AS THE
4:04:38PM TRAINING MANAGER, JUST KIND OF WANT TO LEVEL-SET ON WHERE WE
4:04:42PM ARE AT TODAY.
4:04:43PM KAY HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY TO BRING BACK IN-PERSON
4:04:46PM ORIENTATION.
4:04:46PM YOU KNOW WE HAD TO SHUT THAT DOWN DURING COVID, AND THEN
4:04:50PM SPACE BECAME AN ISSUE.
4:04:52PM WITH HANNA OPENING UP, WE BROUGHT BACK IN-PERSON
4:04:55PM ORIENTATION, SO EVERY TWO WEEKS NEW HIRES GET TO COME IN
4:04:59PM PERSON.
4:05:00PM WE MADE IT WHERE THEY CAN GET THEIR BENEFITS DAY ONE.
4:05:03PM WE WORKED WITH T & I ON SOME OF THE NETWORK ISSUES THAT WE
4:05:06PM HAD SO THAT THE EMPLOYEES HAVE THE ABILITY TO SIGN IN, GET
4:05:09PM THEIR E-MAILS, GET ALL THEIR ACCESSES WHILE THEY HAVE THE
4:05:12PM TRAINING GROUP WITH THEM.
4:05:15PM WE'VE INVITED CERTAIN PEOPLE TO COME INTO ORIENTATION ON DAY
4:05:18PM ONE TO MAKE IT MORE INTERACTIVE WITH THE NEW HIRES.
4:05:21PM THE CHIEF OF STAFF COMES EVERY TWO WEEKS EITHER VIA ZOOM OR
4:05:25PM IN PERSON AND INTRODUCE HIMSELF AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
4:05:28PM CITY.
4:05:29PM SO IT'S REALLY NICE.
4:05:30PM SO WE WOULD PUT THAT INVITATION OUT IF COUNCIL EVER WANTS TO
4:05:33PM GO, WE CAN SHARE THE ORIENTATION SCHEDULE.
4:05:35PM WE CAN GIVE YOU A ZOOM LINK OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO POP IN AT
4:05:39PM PERSON ON HANNA AND SAY HELLO, ALWAYS WELCOME.
4:05:42PM WE ALWAYS MAKE TIME FOR THAT.
4:05:43PM WE'RE EXCITED THAT THAT'S IN-PERSON AGAIN.
4:05:46PM I THINK THAT IS YOUR FIRST -- FIRST DAY AT THE CITY TO BE
4:05:48PM IN-PERSON.
4:05:50PM ZOOM IS WHAT WE DID TO GET BY DURING THE PANDEMIC.
4:05:53PM AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE STILL CONDUCT THE CULTURAL INCLUSIVE
4:05:58PM AWARENESS TEAM.
4:06:00PM THIS TEAM OVERSEES THE CONTRACTORS WE USE TO ACCOMPLISH
4:06:02PM THAT.
4:06:02PM WE HAVE LEADING DIVERSE TEAMS TRAINING WE ALWAYS CONDUCTED
4:06:08PM INTERNALLY AT THE CITY.
4:06:08PM WE HAVE A LEADERSHIP EXCELLENCE SERIES WHICH IS REALLY
4:06:12PM DESIGNED FOR SUPERVISORS AND MANAGERS NEWLY PROMOTED SO IT
4:06:16PM DOESN'T REALLY SCRATCH THE ITCH OF THE FURTHER LEADERSHIP
4:06:19PM DEVELOPMENT OF MID AND SENIOR LEVEL MANAGERS AND
4:06:22PM ADMINISTRATORS AND SO ON.
4:06:23PM BUT IT IS A NICE LEADERSHIP CLASS.
4:06:25PM IT RUNS FOR FOUR WEEKS, FOUR HOURS EACH SESSION AND WE HAVE
4:06:30PM DIFFERENT GROUPS IN THE CITY COME IN AND SPEAK.
4:06:32PM SO THEY LEARN ABOUT THE PURCHASING PROCESS, THEY LEARN ABOUT
4:06:37PM EMPLOYEE RELATIONS.
4:06:37PM THEY LEARN ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT FACETS OF THE CITY AND
4:06:40PM HOW THEIR ROLE IN NEWLY BEING PROMOTED INTO MANAGEMENT, HOW
4:06:44PM THAT INTERFACES WITH THAT.
4:06:46PM THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE IN-HOUSE THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO.
4:06:49PM WE HAVE A LEARNING LIBRARY THAT WE PURCHASED PROBABLY ABOUT
4:06:52PM THREE YEARS AGO, AND WE PULL DOWN ITEMS FROM THAT LEARNING
4:06:58PM LIBRARY AND BUILD SPECIFIED TRAINING AT THE REQUEST OF
4:07:02PM DEPARTMENTS.
4:07:02PM IF SOMEBODY IS STRUGGLING WITH A PARTICULAR ASPECT, WHETHER
4:07:06PM LEADERSHIP, RESUM WRITING, HOW TO DO AN EVALUATION,
4:07:08PM CONFLICT RESOLUTION, WE PROVIDE INDIVIDUAL ONE-ON-ONE
4:07:11PM CURRICULUM AND TRAINING FOR THAT AS WELL.
4:07:13PM WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD WITH DR. LEWIS?
4:07:17PM KAY IS PASSING THE TORCH OFF AND SABRINA IS VERY EXCITED
4:07:21PM ABOUT JOINING THE CITY.
4:07:23PM WHEN WE INTERVIEWED HER, IT WAS SO OBVIOUS EVERY TIME I
4:07:27PM TALKED WITH HER AND THE TEAM TALKED WITH HER, I SAID WE'VE
4:07:30PM GOT TO HONE IN ON THIS BECAUSE SHE MEETS THAT.
4:07:34PM SHE'S GOT THAT CULTURE OF SERVICE PHILOSOPHY THAT WE WANT TO
4:07:37PM MAKE SURE WE KEEP.
4:07:38PM BUT WITH THE ADULT LEARNING SPECIALTY BEING HER WHEEL HOUSE,
4:07:42PM I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN WHAT WE HOPE TO
4:07:46PM DO AS THE NEW YEAR APPROACHES, DR. LEWIS WOULD LIKE TO
4:07:49PM SURVEY THE EMPLOYEES TO FIND OUT WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE.
4:07:52PM IF WE COULD OFFER ANYTHING, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE.
4:07:56PM AND ALSO REMIND EMPLOYEES OF TUITION REIMBURSEMENT FOR
4:08:00PM PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO TAKE A JOURNEY AND PERHAPS GROW
4:08:03PM AND DEVELOP.
4:08:04PM WE WANT PEOPLE TO STAY WITH US, BUT CERTAINLY IF THAT'S NOT
4:08:08PM THEIR DESIRE THEY STILL HAVE TUITION REIMBURSEMENT AVAILABLE
4:08:12PM TO THEM.
4:08:13PM DR. LEWIS AND I HAVE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN INTERNAL
4:08:16PM MENTORSHIP PROGRAM TO TRY TO RETAIN THE LEADERS IN THE
4:08:19PM ORGANIZATION AND HELP THEM GROW AND DEVELOP.
4:08:22PM WE'RE TENTATIVELY CALLING IT GROW OUR OWN, WORKING TITLE
4:08:26PM RIGHT NOW.
4:08:26PM WE'LL SEE IF WE STICK WITH THAT.
4:08:28PM THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE AS WELL.
4:08:31PM THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US
4:08:33PM IN THE LEARNING LIBRARY AND ALSO LOOK OUTWARD.
4:08:37PM THERE ARE SOME EXTERNAL LEADERSHIP CLASSES, CORNELL AND
4:08:40PM THINGS OF THAT NATURE BUT WE'LL TRY TO LOOK A LITTLE CLOSER
4:08:43PM TO HOME AND SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE
4:08:46PM MORE DOABLE FOR A GREATER POPULATION THAN ONE OR TWO PEOPLE
4:08:49PM GETTING SENT TO LIKE A CORNELL LEADERSHIP SERIES.
4:08:52PM I'LL TAKE A BREATH AND OPEN IT UP TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS OR
4:08:58PM FEEDBACK.
4:08:58PM HAPPY TO HEAR IT.
4:08:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
4:09:01PM I AM SO GLAD TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE WE DO NEED A SUCCESSION
4:09:05PM PLAN.
4:09:05PM WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY RETIRING IN A LOT OF AREAS.
4:09:08PM >>KELLY AUSTIN: OH, YEAH.
4:09:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE THE SITUATION IN OUR ECONOMIC
4:09:12PM DEVELOPMENT DIVISION, AND WE NEED PEOPLE TO STEP UP.
4:09:15PM I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
4:09:17PM LEARNING LIBRARY, IS IT DIGITAL?
4:09:19PM DO THE EMPLOYEES ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IT?
4:09:22PM >>KELLY AUSTIN: YES.
4:09:23PM WHAT WE DO TODAY, THOUGH, WE BUILD A CURRICULUM BASED AROUND
4:09:27PM WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN THE LIBRARY.
4:09:30PM SO IF WE'RE HAVING A COACHING CONVERSATION WITH AN EMPLOYEE,
4:09:33PM KAY OR SOMEBODY ON OUR TEAM WOULD PULL THOSE DOWN FOR THE
4:09:37PM EMPLOYEE AND LET THEM TAKE THOSE COURSES AND CLASSES AND
4:09:40PM PROVIDE THEM WITH LINKS TO DO IT.
4:09:42PM IT'S NOT JUST OUT THERE PUBLISHED BECAUSE IT'S VERY
4:09:45PM EXPANSIVE AND EXTENSIVE.
4:09:48PM RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT BUT IT IS ONE OF THE GOALS WE KIND OF
4:09:51PM HAD WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, PUT IT ON THE iNET AND LET PEOPLE
4:09:54PM TAKE IT AT WILL.
4:09:55PM BUT IF YOU WANT CREDIT FOR IT, WE HAVE TO RUN IT THROUGH
4:09:59PM ORACLE, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME INTERACTION WITH
4:10:02PM THEM.
4:10:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANYTHING FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, LIKE A
4:10:05PM COURSE IN PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT
4:10:09PM WE COULD USE?
4:10:10PM >>KELLY AUSTIN: I'M ON THE 457 COMMITTEE AND I WOULD LOVE A
4:10:15PM CLASS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
4:10:16PM WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN OUR LEARNING LIBRARY.
4:10:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
4:10:20PM I HAVEN'T HAD THAT COURSE SINCE FRESHMAN YEAR OF COLLEGE.
4:10:25PM THAT WOULD BE NICE.
4:10:26PM >>KELLY AUSTIN: I WILL TAKE IT WITH YOU.
4:10:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MAKE A MOTION FOR ALL OF US TO TAKE IT.
4:10:30PM MAYBE I CAN GET FOUR VOTES.
4:10:32PM NO, NO.
4:10:33PM [ LAUGHTER ]
4:10:33PM I KNOW ALAN WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING FUNNY.
4:10:37PM NO, WAIT A MINUTE.
4:10:39PM LET ME FINISH.
4:10:40PM TUITION REIMBURSEMENT, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW MANY OF
4:10:44PM OUR EMPLOYEES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT?
4:10:46PM AND DO WE HAVE THE BUDGET FOR THAT?
4:10:52PM I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT AS A BUDGET LINE ITEM.
4:10:54PM >> PROBABLY ABOUT 25% OF THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES, BUT A GREAT
4:10:58PM PERCENTAGE OF FIRE AND POLICE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
4:11:02PM NOW, WE DO PROMOTE IT AT ORIENTATION.
4:11:08PM THEY HAVE TO FINISH THEIR FIRST SIX MONTHS PROBATIONARY
4:11:11PM PERIOD.
4:11:12PM YOU SEE A LOT OF THE FIRE TAKE IT BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT
4:11:15PM PARAMEDIC CERTIFICATION.
4:11:18PM THERE ARE DIFFERENT BUCKETS FOR THE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
4:11:20PM YOUR WASTEWATER, CERTIFICATIONS AND LICENSURES THEY HAVE TO
4:11:25PM GET AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
4:11:26PM YOU SEE SOME PEOPLE TAKE IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HELP
4:11:30PM THEM WITH THE EXISTING JOB THEY HAVE.
4:11:32PM WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MASTERS PROGRAMS.
4:11:34PM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN Ph.D. PROGRAMS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE
4:11:37PM OF THE TUITION REIMBURSEMENT.
4:11:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE
4:11:43PM CITY OF TAMPA AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
4:11:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
4:11:46PM ANYTHING ELSE?
4:11:47PM ARE YOU GOOD?
4:11:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: SAME THING.
4:11:51PM THANK YOU.
4:11:51PM CONGRATULATE YOU LATER.
4:11:53PM LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
4:11:55PM A FEW THINGS REAL FAST, ONE OF THE COMMENTS I GET IS ABOUT
4:12:02PM CULTURE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL ARE PREPARED AND ON IT.
4:12:06PM LET ME SAY AS A CAVEAT, THIS WHOLE AREA OF DISCUSSION
4:12:09PM CLEARLY IN THE CHARTER IS A POWER OF THE MAYOR, NOT OF CITY
4:12:12PM COUNCIL.
4:12:13PM SO I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR AND CHIEF OF STAFF AND OTHERS
4:12:15PM ALLOWING US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
4:12:18PM IT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK
4:12:21PM TOGETHER ON THIS AND LISTENING TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
4:12:23PM ALSO, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF -- FROM COVID TO OTHER ISSUES,
4:12:31PM HURRICANES AND POLITICS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, BEEN A LOT
4:12:34PM OF ISSUES.
4:12:35PM IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A GROWING CONSENSUS TO TRY TO HAVE
4:12:38PM PEACE FOR THE NEXT TWO AND A HALF YEARS, I HOPE THAT HOLDS.
4:12:41PM IF THAT CAN HOLD, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THE
4:12:47PM EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY HAVE POSITIVE CULTURE.
4:12:51PM THE OTHER THING, LIKE MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, FOLKS WANT TO
4:12:54PM MOVE UP.
4:12:55PM THEY WANT TO SEE THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR ADVANCEMENT.
4:12:58PM AND THEY ALSO WANT TO DEVELOP CAREERS.
4:13:01PM THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
4:13:03PM THE MORE ENTHUSIASM YOU ALL CAN CREATE, YOU KNOW THIS AREA
4:13:07PM BETTER THAN I.
4:13:08PM IF WE GIVE THEM TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES, LEADERSHIP
4:13:10PM DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, MANY TIMES WE TURN IN HOUSE
4:13:15PM BECAUSE WE'RE ONE OF THE BIGGEST CITIES AND GREAT STAFF
4:13:17PM ALREADY, TURN IN HOUSE AND HIRE FOLKS BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO
4:13:20PM KNOW WE HAVE GREAT TRAINING THAT WILL HELP THEM.
4:13:23PM PROGRAMS YOU MENTIONED, CORNELL, ET CETERA, FULLY SUPPORTIVE
4:13:26PM OF THOSE.
4:13:27PM I THINK PEOPLE NEED SIGNALS LIKE THAT ON THEIR RESUM S AND
4:13:31PM THEY NEED TO KNOW THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE
4:13:35PM IF THEY HAVE THOSE ON THEIR RESUM S AND THEY NEED TO KNOW WE
4:13:38PM APPRECIATE THEM SO MUCH THAT WE WOULD INVEST IN THOSE WAYS.
4:13:42PM THE OTHER THING, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE
4:13:45PM UNIONS.
4:13:46PM I THINK WE ALL TALK TO THE UNIONS A LOT.
4:13:49PM AND THEN THERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WORK AROUND THE MAYOR.
4:13:52PM THEY GET LOTS OF RAISES AND EVERYTHING.
4:13:54PM BUT THE PEOPLE IN BETWEEN, MID-LEVEL MANAGERS, SEVERAL OF
4:13:57PM THEM HAVE SAID THEY FEEL LEFT OUT OF THE RAISES AND CULTURE
4:14:00PM AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
4:14:02PM TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE FEELS LIKE
4:14:09PM PART OF ONE TEAM AND EVERYONE FEELS LIKE THEY GET
4:14:12PM ADVANCEMENT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T
4:14:15PM MISS ANYBODY.
4:14:16PM THANK YOU.
4:14:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:14:17PM ANYBODY ELSE?
4:14:18PM >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I WOULD ADD, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE
4:14:22PM SAYING.
4:14:22PM WHEN I CAME INTO HR, I NOTICED THERE REALLY WASN'T ANY PATH,
4:14:26PM STEPPING-STONES FOR THE LOWER-LEVEL EMPLOYEES.
4:14:29PM SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST CHALLENGES AND THE
4:14:31PM ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OVER THE SIX YEARS
4:14:34PM I'VE BEEN HERE, EVERY BUDGET SEASON, EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE.
4:14:37PM BUT I'VE BUILT IN SOME STEPPING-STONES WHERE PEOPLE, IF THEY
4:14:41PM WANTED A CAREER IN HR, THEY COULD STAY IN HR AND MOVE AROUND
4:14:45PM A LITTLE BIT.
4:14:46PM BUT I THINK WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT REMISS WHEN YOU START
4:14:49PM GOING UP THE CHAIN ABOUT THAT LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, THAT
4:14:52PM SUCCESSION PLANNING.
4:14:53PM SABRINA IS FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
4:14:57PM I'M ORIGINALLY FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
4:14:59PM THAT'S A BIG PART, GROWING YOUR OWN, MOVING THEM UP, HAVING
4:15:02PM A PATH.
4:15:02PM AS LONG AS WE STICK TO CIVIL SERVICE RULES WE CAN STILL DO
4:15:06PM MENTORING AND SUCCESSION PLANNING FOR CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES
4:15:09PM THAT KIND OF FALL INTO THIS GROUP THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
4:15:12PM I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF BUILDING STEPPING-STONES
4:15:15PM FOR THE LOWER RANKS TO KIND OF MOVE AROUND, BUT I THINK WE
4:15:18PM NEED TO MOVE UP AND FOCUS ON THAT MIDDLE GROUP TO GET A
4:15:21PM BETTER BANG FOR THE BUCK.
4:15:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:15:23PM WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX ITEMS TO GO.
4:15:29PM IF WE COULD MAKE SURE WE STAY WITHIN THAT FIVE-MINUTE PER
4:15:36PM COUNCIL MEMBER FIRST ROUND AND THEN LET THE PRESENTER MAKE
4:15:40PM THE PRESENTATION BEFORE WE START ASKING QUESTIONS.
4:15:43PM ITEM 74 IS MR. TONY MULKEY.
4:15:46PM A MOTION INITIATED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
4:15:51PM >>TONY MULKEY: TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
4:15:55PM THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO TALK ABOUT THE CREATIVE LOAFING
4:15:59PM BRUNCH EVENT AT THE TAMPA RIVER CENTER.
4:16:02PM PREPARED A WRITTEN MEMO, BUT I WANT TO GO INTO A LITTLE MORE
4:16:06PM DETAIL FOR EVERYONE FOR UNDERSTANDING OF THE STRUCTURE
4:16:10PM SYSTEM AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO.
4:16:13PM TO BEGIN WITH, THE CREATIVE LOAFING BRUNCH EVENT TOOK PLACE
4:16:16PM IN 2024 AND 2023.
4:16:19PM FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, THEY HAD A SIMILAR EVENT TWO PREVIOUS
4:16:23PM YEARS IN 2020 AND 2022.
4:16:25PM SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY UNDER THE BRUNCH EVENT BUT THEY HAD
4:16:29PM TWO OTHERS.
4:16:30PM THESE EVENTS WERE TICKETED EVENTS THAT THEY UTILIZED THE
4:16:32PM RIVER CENTER FOR AND HAD A VARIETY OF VENDORS THERE THAT
4:16:37PM PROVIDED SAMPLES TO THE PUBLIC AS PART OF THEIR TICKET.
4:16:40PM NOW, THE QUESTION IS HOW THESE VENDORS WERE ABLE TO OPERATE
4:16:46PM WITH OUR PREFERRED VENDING PROGRAM THAT IS STILL IN PLACE
4:16:52PM RIGHT NOW, WAS THAT THE EVENT WAS LICENSED UNDER AN APPROVED
4:16:58PM VENDOR.
4:16:59PM AND THEN THE OTHER VENDORS THAT CAME IN ACTED LIKE A
4:17:03PM SUBCONTRACTOR, ESSENTIALLY.
4:17:05PM IT'S SIMILAR TO HOW LIKE A FLOWER DECORATOR OR A WEDDING
4:17:10PM PLANNER WOULD OPERATE BUT FOOD AND BEVERAGE HAD TO GO
4:17:13PM THROUGH THAT APPROVED VENDOR.
4:17:14PM WE TRIED TO STRUCTURE IT VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE CONVENTION
4:17:18PM CENTER DOES WHEN THEY HAVE PEOPLE COME IN FOR A CONVENTION
4:17:21PM OR SOMETHING, BUT WE'VE LISTENED.
4:17:24PM WE'VE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY.
4:17:25PM WE'VE LISTENED AND APPROACHED THIS WITH THE SPIRIT OF
4:17:32PM OPPORTUNITY AND THE AVAILABILITY FOR EVERYONE TO GET IN
4:17:35PM THERE.
4:17:36PM EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CHANCE AT PROVIDING SERVICES
4:17:40PM AT A CITY FACILITY, A COMMUNITY FACILITY.
4:17:42PM SO MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING UP VERY
4:17:47PM SOON, IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS, AND LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING
4:17:50PM WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE TO ROLL OUT A NEW SYSTEM BEGINNING IN
4:17:55PM 2025.
4:17:55PM CURRENTLY CYCLE OF THE RFP WITH THE PREFERRED VENDORS ENDS
4:18:00PM IN APRIL.
4:18:00PM WE KNOW WE HAVE A LEAD TIME ON EVENTS AT THE RIVER CENTER
4:18:04PM BECAUSE IT DOES FILL UP QUICKLY.
4:18:05PM I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER ALL ASPECTS OF THAT DURING THE
4:18:09PM WORKSHOP AND TRY TO BREAK IT DOWN.
4:18:11PM WE DO INTEND TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE WHO QUALIFIES TO BE A
4:18:15PM VENDOR AT THIS SPACE, WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
4:18:19PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO TRY AND ADDRESS THOSE.
4:18:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
4:18:26PM I APPRECIATE IT.
4:18:27PM THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
4:18:28PM I KNOW YOU WROTE THE MEMO.
4:18:30PM I'M GLAD YOU ALL DID AND IT GOT INTO OUR SYSTEM IN TIME
4:18:35PM ENOUGH.
4:18:35PM THIS WILLING CLASSIFIED AS A CHARITY EVENT.
4:18:38PM IS THAT ANYWHERE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT LETS THE PUBLIC KNOW
4:18:42PM THAT THEY CAN USE THIS SPACE AS A CHARITY EVENT AND PICK A
4:18:48PM SUBCONTRACTOR OF THEIR CHOOSING TO HAVE AN EVENT AT THE
4:18:51PM RIVER CENTER?
4:18:53PM >> THERE IS A SMALL BLURB IN THE FAQs, SO I DON'T THINK IT
4:18:57PM IS GOOD ENOUGH.
4:18:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY, GOOD.
4:18:59PM IT DOESN'T SAY THAT.
4:19:00PM WHAT IT GIVES THE IMPRESSION OF IS IF THE CATER DOESN'T HAVE
4:19:03PM A PARTICULAR SOMETHING, THEN THEY CAN SUBCONTRACT LIKE THE
4:19:07PM COFFEE OR CAKE.
4:19:09PM THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
4:19:10PM IT DOESN'T GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT 14 VIABLE CITY
4:19:13PM RESTAURANTS CAN COME AND USE THE FACILITY.
4:19:16PM ALSO, WHO WAS THE ACTUAL CONTRACTOR THAT THEY WORKED UP
4:19:19PM UNDER, THE LICENSED CATER.
4:19:21PM >> CBK.
4:19:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CBK WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THESE
4:19:26PM FOLKS.
4:19:26PM THE RULE ALSO SAYS HERE, OR AT LEAST THE ANSWER TO THE
4:19:29PM PUBLIC, IT SAYS THAT THE CATERER CAN BRING IN ON BEHALF OF,
4:19:35PM YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED.
4:19:38PM IN OTHER WORDS, CREATIVE LOAFING WANTS A VARIETY OF FOOD.
4:19:42PM IT SAYS THAT THE LICENSED CATERER WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN
4:19:46PM DO THAT ON THEIR BEHALF.
4:19:48PM THAT'S NOT HOW THIS EVENT OPERATED.
4:19:50PM IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE THERE FOR THEMSELVES.
4:19:54PM >>TONY MULKEY: YES, THEY WERE PROMOTING THEMSELVES.
4:19:56PM DEFINITELY IN A STRUCTURE LIKE THIS, IT WAS KIND OF A
4:19:58PM SHOWCASE FOR THOSE BUSINESSES.
4:20:00PM THEY WERE LIMITED TO ONE-OUNCE SAMPLES.
4:20:03PM ANY SUBSTANTIVE FOOD, WHICH THEY DID HAVE LIKE A MENU THEY
4:20:06PM OFFERED AND DRINKS.
4:20:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT WAS ALL YOU CAN EAT.
4:20:11PM SAYS ON THE COVER ON THE VERY TITLE.
4:20:14PM ADVERTISED IN CREATIVE LOAFING, IT SAYS CREATIVE LOAFING ALL
4:20:17PM YOU CAN EAT BRUNCH EVENT RETURNS TO TAMPA.
4:20:20PM DON'T USE THE ONE OUNCE PLEASE.
4:20:23PM THAT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT.
4:20:24PM HERE IS THE OTHER THING TOO.
4:20:28PM ON OUR WEB PAGE OR EVEN WHEN THE COMMUNITY COMES TO TRY TO
4:20:35PM GET THE RIVER CENTER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S WRITTEN IN
4:20:38PM YOUR MEMO, IT SAYS THAT SITUATIONS THAT ALLOW FOR OUTSIDE
4:20:45PM FOOD AND BEVERAGE VENDORS ARE FOR CHARITY EVENTS.
4:20:48PM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS DONE THIS FOR CHARITY, USED
4:20:52PM THE RIVER CENTER?
4:20:53PM BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ADVERTISED.
4:20:55PM THAT'S NOT CLEAR.
4:20:56PM >>TONY MULKEY: SURE.
4:20:59PM AGAIN, IT'S NOT QUITE ON THE WEBSITE BUT PART OF THE
4:21:02PM COORDINATION PROCESS.
4:21:03PM AND I THINK --
4:21:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S NOT.
4:21:06PM CREATIVE LOAFING IS THE ONLY ONE THAT GETS THE DEAL.
4:21:09PM THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE.
4:21:10PM >>TONY MULKEY: WE WORKED WITH THE GASPARILLA FESTIVAL.
4:21:12PM THE ARTS IS ONE THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST WITH
4:21:15PM THEIR EVENTS.
4:21:17PM WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OTHER INSTANCES OF SIMILAR.
4:21:21PM I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS.
4:21:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW WOULD EVERYBODY ELSE KNOW?
4:21:24PM SEEMS LIKE THEY WOULD HAVE -- OR AT LEAST IT GIVES THAT
4:21:28PM IMPRESSION.
4:21:29PM NO ONE ELSE KNOWS THAT, WHETHER ANY OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION CAN
4:21:33PM SAY, OH, I WANT TO GIVE SOMETHING TO CHARITY, AND THEY COULD
4:21:36PM USE THE JULIAN B. LANE RIVER CENTER AND THEN BRING IN A
4:21:41PM SUBCONTRACTOR OR CATERER.
4:21:42PM THAT'S NOT -- THE PUBLIC IS NOT PRIVY TO THAT KIND OF
4:21:45PM INFORMATION.
4:21:46PM >>TONY MULKEY: LIKE I SAID, IT WAS NOT AS PROMINENT AS I
4:21:49PM WOULD HAVE PREFERRED ON THE FAQs WITH THAT.
4:21:53PM WE'VE HAD EVEN PRIVATE EVENTS BRING IN SOMEONE IF THEY HAD A
4:21:56PM SPECIALIZED CUISINE LIKE NEEDING KOSHER OR SOME TYPE OF
4:22:01PM DIETARY CUISINE, THAT WAS KIND OF THE CATCHALL THAT, HEY,
4:22:06PM THESE VENDORS DON'T OFFER SOMETHING, TALK TO US AND WE CAN
4:22:09PM HELP BRIDGE THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH A LEAD THAT HAS A SUB.
4:22:14PM I'M COMPLETELY AGREEING WITH YOU.
4:22:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS SO WE DON'T
4:22:18PM TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME WITH THE NUANCES OF THIS WHEN WE GET
4:22:21PM TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT IT, WORKSHOP.
4:22:24PM THE RFP HAS THE SUBCONTRACTOR FORM.
4:22:32PM ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE CATERERS CURRENTLY HAVE TURN IT IN
4:22:38PM RFP, CBK LISTED THE 14 CATERERS AS PART OF THE RFQ.
4:22:46PM >>TONY MULKEY: THEY DID NOT.
4:22:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW WERE THEY ALLOWED TO USE IT IF THIS
4:22:52PM FORM WAS TURNED IN IN ADVANCE.
4:22:55PM >>TONY MULKEY: AS FAR AS THE PURCHASING AGREEMENT, I WASN'T
4:22:58PM PART OF THE PROCESS THERE.
4:22:59PM I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS WERE FOR
4:23:02PM THAT.
4:23:03PM FOR THE EVENT, EVERY ONE OF THOSE HAD TO SUBMIT PAPER WORK.
4:23:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AFTER THE FACT?
4:23:08PM >>TONY MULKEY: AFTER THAT, YES.
4:23:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BECAUSE THIS IS DONE WITH THE SCORING
4:23:13PM PROCESS.
4:23:13PM THE SUBCONTRACTOR FORM -- I'M SAYING THIS FOR THE PUBLIC.
4:23:16PM I THINK YOU KNOW THIS, BUT THIS IS DONE IN ADVANCE FOR US TO
4:23:20PM DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO USE YOU AS A CONTRACTOR.
4:23:24PM THERE ARE SO MANY FLAWS IN THIS SITUATION.
4:23:27PM I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE BRINGING SOME LIGHT TO IT.
4:23:31PM THERE WAS ONE MORE.
4:23:35PM A CONTRACTOR, THE MEMO SAID THERE WERE NINE, BUT THERE ARE
4:23:46PM EIGHT LISTED.
4:23:48PM WHERE DID THIS OTHER CONTRACT COME FROM?
4:23:51PM >>TONY MULKEY: WE DID AN RFQ PROCESS FOR THE SMALL MEETING
4:23:54PM ROOM FOR THE NONALCOHOLIC EVENTS.
4:23:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHEN DID YOU DO THAT?
4:23:58PM >>TONY MULKEY: THE SAME TIME AS THE RFQ FOR THE VENDORS IN
4:24:02PM THERE.
4:24:02PM THE AWARDS WERE AT TWO SEPARATE TIMES.
4:24:05PM WHY I SAID NINE IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE VENDORS FROM THE BIG
4:24:08PM ROOM QUALIFIED UNDER THE SMALL ROOM GUIDELINES.
4:24:11PM SO IT WAS KIND OF TEN AWARDS BUT ENDED UP BEING A DELTA OF
4:24:15PM NINE.
4:24:15PM WE HAD TWO SEPARATE PROCESSES.
4:24:18PM THOSE EXPIRED EARLIER BECAUSE THEY WERE AWARDED EARLIER,
4:24:21PM THEY EXPIRED LAST MONTH IN AUGUST.
4:24:24PM WE DECIDED NOT TO RENEW THAT BECAUSE WE KNEW MOVING FORWARD
4:24:27PM WE WOULD GET RID OF THE RFP PROCESS.
4:24:30PM WE'LL DO A QUALIFICATION PROCESS AS NEEDED.
4:24:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE LAST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
4:24:36PM THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES.
4:24:38PM THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T GET TO USE JULIAN B. LANE, BUT DURING
4:24:42PM THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING JULIAN B. LANE, THE COMMUNITY WAS
4:24:46PM TOLD, OF COURSE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE THE FACILITY BUT THAT
4:24:50PM DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE TRUE AND NOTHING ON THE WEBSITE THAT
4:24:53PM INDICATES THE COMMUNITY HAS ACCESS TO IT.
4:24:56PM IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ALL HAVE ADDRESSED?
4:24:58PM >>TONY MULKEY: I'LL GET SOME INFORMATION BEFORE THE WORKSHOP
4:25:00PM ON THAT.
4:25:01PM WE DO HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT USE IT.
4:25:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR FREE?
4:25:05PM >>TONY MULKEY: YEAH, WE DO.
4:25:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW WOULD THEY KNOW?
4:25:08PM I LOOK FOR IT.
4:25:09PM NAME ONE FOR ME AS AN EXAMPLE.
4:25:12PM >>TONY MULKEY: I'M THINKING MORE ALONG LIKE THE SCHOOL
4:25:16PM DISTRICT OR F.D.O.T. HAS USED COMMUNITY INPUT MEETINGS AND
4:25:20PM THEY ARE MORE OF THE OFFICIAL FUNCTIONS.
4:25:22PM AS FAR AS A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP OR OTHER, I WOULD HAVE TO DO
4:25:25PM SOME RESEARCH.
4:25:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW WOULD THEY GET IN?
4:25:28PM F.D.O.T., THOSE FOLKS, HOW DO THEY DO THAT?
4:25:31PM MAKE A SPECIAL PHONE CALL OR SOMETHING?
4:25:33PM >>TONY MULKEY: THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CITY SPONSOR THROUGH A
4:25:38PM DIRECTOR.
4:25:38PM I CAN PROVIDE THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND SHOW YOU THAT WE
4:25:42PM HAVE A PROCESS THAT IS VETTED THROUGH A WORK FLOW AND HAS TO
4:25:45PM BE SIGNED OFF AT MULTIPLE LEVELS.
4:25:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS A PUBLIC SPACE, SO HOW WOULD THE
4:25:52PM PUBLIC KNOW?
4:25:53PM IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.
4:25:56PM SEE HOW ISOLATED THIS BECOMES?
4:25:58PM THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES ABOUT THIS JULIAN B. LANE
4:26:01PM RIVER CENTER THAT WE PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR.
4:26:08PM GOT THE BP OIL MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.
4:26:10PM THE LIGHT IS YELLOW BUT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND LOOK
4:26:15PM FORWARD TO SOME MOVEMENT ON THIS AT OUR SEPTEMBER WORKSHOP.
4:26:19PM THANK YOU.
4:26:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, MY WIFE AND
4:26:22PM I WERE LOOKING AT A PLACE TO GET MARRIED, I LOOKED AT THE
4:26:25PM RIVER CENTER.
4:26:28PM IT WAS 3,000 TO RENT THE ROOM, THE BIG ROOM AND THEN LIKE
4:26:31PM $200 TO HAVE IT FOR 30 MINUTES, IF I REMEMBER.
4:26:35PM YOU GET ACCESS TO CHAIRS.
4:26:36PM OKAY, IF IT RAINS OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A COVERED SPOT.
4:26:41PM DO SOMETHING TAMPA.
4:26:43PM THEN IT WAS RENTING THE CHAIRS, THIS AND THAT TO HAVE THE
4:26:46PM CEREMONY.
4:26:46PM WE ENDED UP GOING OUT HERE IN THE COURTYARD.
4:26:50PM WE COULDN'T RENT IT.
4:26:51PM COULDN'T HAVE CHAIRS.
4:26:52PM COULDN'T HAVE MUSIC BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE.
4:26:56PM WE WENT IN AND WE HAD SOMEONE OFFICIATE, TOOK PICTURES,
4:27:00PM ANYBODY CAN DO THAT.
4:27:01PM ANYBODY CAN GO DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW AND GET MARRIED, NO
4:27:04PM PERMISSION, NO INSURANCE SIGN-OFF.
4:27:07PM BUT IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION IS IT OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY?
4:27:09PM YES, WE WERE THERE FOR CEREMONIAL PURPOSES, GETTING MARRIED.
4:27:16PM BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE TO GET INTO THAT BUILDING.
4:27:18PM IF YOU HAVE A SPONSORSHIP AND WHATNOT, BUT COMMUNITY GROUPS
4:27:23PM AND KIDS THAT GO TO BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL AND WANT TO WALK DOWN
4:27:27PM THE STREET TO GET THERE, THAT IS THE THING.
4:27:30PM IT'S AN EXPENSIVE PLACE.
4:27:31PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:27:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID YOU HAD SOMEBODY OFFICIATE YOUR
4:27:37PM WEDDING.
4:27:37PM YOU HAD A VIP WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE ACCESS.
4:27:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS HOW MUCH I LOVE CITY HALL.
4:27:42PM GOT MARRIED OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL AND GOT A FORMER MAYOR TO
4:27:45PM OFFICIATE, WHICH IS DICK GRECO.
4:27:48PM I THINK I MENTIONED IT TO YOU.
4:27:51PM YEAH, I GOT MARRIED HERE.
4:27:53PM DO THIS HERE.
4:27:54PM NOW YOU KNOW.
4:27:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUICK QUESTIONS WHILE YOU'RE HERE.
4:27:57PM NUMBER ONE WHEN THIS FACILITY FIRST OPENED, AS MY COLLEAGUE
4:28:00PM SAID, COST A LOT OF MONEY, PART OF IT MAY HAVE BEEN BP,
4:28:04PM STILL A LOT OF MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON SOMETHING
4:28:07PM ELSE.
4:28:07PM WHEN IT FIRST OPENED, ONE OF THE CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY
4:28:09PM THAT WASN'T WELL PUBLICIZED, FOR PROFITS AND NONPROFITS WERE
4:28:15PM WORRIED ABOUT THIS BUILDING COMPETING WITH THEM.
4:28:18PM I THINK WHAT MY COLLEAGUE TALKED ABOUT IS IMPORTANT, TOO.
4:28:22PM BUT THE FLIPSIDE IS THAT THE OTHERS SAID, WELL, WE DON'T
4:28:25PM WANT YOU TO COME IN WITH A NEW BUILDING AND UNDERCUT US IN
4:28:28PM PRICE.
4:28:29PM ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS IS, WELL, THIS BUILDING IS FULL ALL THE
4:28:31PM TIME AND HAS EVENTS ALL THE TIME.
4:28:33PM I WONDER WHAT KIND OF IMPACT IT HAD ON OTHER FACILITIES
4:28:36PM BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT COMPETING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
4:28:39PM CAN YOU REAL FAST TELL US WHAT THE PRICING STRATEGY ON IT?
4:28:43PM DO YOU COMPARE TO OTHER COMPETITORS?
4:28:48PM >>TONY MULKEY: WE DID DO A BENCH MARK SURVEY OF DIFFERENT
4:28:50PM PRIVACY VENUES AS WELL AS OTHER PUBLIC VENUES AS WELL.
4:28:53PM THE STRATEGY GOING IN WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE LOWEST AND
4:28:56PM DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE HIGHEST.
4:28:58PM THERE WAS KIND OF THAT MIDDLE GROUND FOR DISCOUNTS FOR
4:29:04PM NONPROFITS, 25% DISCOUNT.
4:29:07PM RATES FLUCTUATE DEPENDING IF IT IS A WEEKEND VERSUS A
4:29:11PM WEEKDAY, DEPENDING IF YOU ARE USING THE BIG HALL VERSUS
4:29:13PM SMALL MEETING ROOM.
4:29:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD STAY ON TOP OF IT.
4:29:19PM BECAUSE AS PRICES CHANGE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET A GROUP OF
4:29:22PM SOME OF THE VENUES -- YOU DON'T WANT TO BREAK ANY LAWS.
4:29:26PM TALK TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
4:29:27PM GATHER THE INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SUBSIDIZING
4:29:31PM SOME BIG CORPORATIONS GOING IN HAVING EVENTS WHEN THEY COULD
4:29:34PM GO TO SOME OTHER PLACE.
4:29:36PM THE OTHER THING IS, PART OF THE JUSTIFICATION OF THE COST
4:29:39PM WAS THAT IT'S A BOATHOUSE ON THE BOTTOM.
4:29:42PM BUT I NEVER SEE ANYBODY THERE.
4:29:44PM DOES ANYBODY USE THAT?
4:29:45PM >>TONY MULKEY: YES, OUR PROGRAMMING THERE IS FULL.
4:29:49PM WE ARE COMPLETELY SUBSCRIBED FOR OUR OFFERINGS.
4:29:52PM OUR TEAM TAMPA TEAMS ACTUALLY PRODUCED THREE COLLEGIATE
4:30:00PM SCHOLARSHIP PARTICIPANTS THIS YEAR.
4:30:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: USED TO BE THAT CREW TEAMS FROM OTHER STATES
4:30:07PM AND UNIVERSITIES WOULD COME DOWN, DO THEY STILL USE THE
4:30:10PM FACILITY?
4:30:10PM >>TONY MULKEY: SINCE WE OPENED, PRETTY LONG-TERM
4:30:13PM RELATIONSHIP WITH PRINCETON WHO COMES DOWN DURING THE
4:30:15PM SEASON.
4:30:15PM AT THE END OF THE YEAR THEY DONATED SOME OF THEIR BOATS TO
4:30:19PM THE COMMUNITY PROGRAM.
4:30:20PM THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS I CAN PROVIDE ON THE BOATHOUSE AS
4:30:23PM WELL WHEN I COME IN.
4:30:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: GREAT.
4:30:25PM THANK YOU.
4:30:25PM >>TONY MULKEY: YOU'RE WELCOME.
4:30:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
4:30:27PM WE WILL RESERVE THE REST OF DISCUSSION FOR THE WORKSHOP
4:30:30PM BECAUSE THAT WILL BE COMING UP.
4:30:32PM IN REGARDS TO THE ROWING FOLKS, I SEE IT ALWAYS FULL.
4:30:36PM I USED TO ROW IN HIGH SCHOOL AND AT TAMPA CATHOLIC THEY HAVE
4:30:40PM A BOATHOUSE THERE.
4:30:41PM WHEN YOU GO TO UT THAT WAS THE CLOSEST.
4:30:44PM I'VE SEEN IT USED A LOT BY COLLEGE KIDS AND HIGH SCHOOL
4:30:48PM KIDS.
4:30:49PM WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE WORKSHOP THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:30:51PM NEXT UP WE HAVE A MEMO FROM ABBYE WHO IS HERE REGARDING THE
4:30:57PM COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT FOR ROME YARD AND THE YELLOW
4:31:02PM JACKETS PROPERTY.
4:31:03PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
4:31:06PM ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND
4:31:10PM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
4:31:11PM THIS MOTION WAS A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, AND
4:31:16PM I JUST WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND IN PERSON IN RELATION TO ROME
4:31:21PM YARD, THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT AND THE QUESTIONS SHE
4:31:29PM HAD RAISED IN CONCERN ABOUT OPENING UP THAT AGREEMENT.
4:31:32PM LOOKING AT OTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE YELLOW JACKETS.
4:31:36PM I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH DIRECTOR MULKEY ON THIS AS
4:31:40PM WELL, AND I KNOW HE'S STILL IN THE CHAMBERS WITH US THIS
4:31:45PM AFTERNOON.
4:31:45PM JUST TO ADD SOME PERSPECTIVE, THE YELLOW JACKETS WERE
4:31:50PM RELOCATED FROM THEIR FIELD IN WEST TAMPA PRIOR TO THE RFP
4:31:58PM BEING DEVELOPED FOR ROME YARD.
4:32:00PM SO THAT -- THE PROPERTY WAS IDENTIFIED FOR ROME YARD.
4:32:06PM THAT RELOCATION HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.
4:32:09PM THE RFP WENT OUT FOR ROME YARD.
4:32:12PM ROME YARD WAS THEN AWARDED.
4:32:15PM YOU MAY RECALL THE FIRST RFP HAD PROTEST, AND IT WAS
4:32:19PM REPUBLISHED AND THEN REAWARDED.
4:32:23PM AND THEN THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS MEETINGS THAT WERE
4:32:26PM ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT WERE CONDUCTED.
4:32:31PM DURING THOSE MEETINGS, I DID GO BACK.
4:32:33PM I WAS NOT PARTY TO THAT.
4:32:34PM I WAS NOT PARTY TO THE RELOCATE THAT HAPPENED.
4:32:36PM KIND OF BY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE CITY.
4:32:40PM THOSE MEETINGS I DID IN PREPARATION FOR REPORTING TODAY,
4:32:45PM TOUCHED BACK WITH REPRESENTATIVES WHO WERE THERE AT THOSE
4:32:48PM COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.
4:32:52PM NOTHING DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE YELLOW JACKETS OR ANY OTHER
4:32:56PM IMPROVEMENTS WERE COMBINED WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY BENEFITS
4:33:01PM AGREEMENT.
4:33:03PM AT THIS TIME, THE YELLOW JACKETS ARE PLAYING IN THE TAMPA
4:33:05PM HEIGHTS AREA.
4:33:06PM I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF WHERE THAT IS.
4:33:10PM IT WOULD NOT BE KIND OF IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO REOPEN
4:33:15PM THAT AGREEMENT OR LOOK AT GOING BACK IN THAT PROCESS AS THAT
4:33:22PM IS KIND OF STAND-ALONE FROM THAT RELOCATION AND WHAT
4:33:27PM HAPPENED PRIOR TO THE LAND ASSEMBLAGE FOR PUBLICATION UNDER
4:33:32PM THE RFP.
4:33:33PM SO I THINK WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON THAT, AND I'M HERE JUST TO
4:33:38PM STATE THE FACTS OF THE MATTER IN RELATION TO WHAT TOOK PLACE
4:33:44PM AT THAT TIME.
4:33:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, THIS IS YOUR
4:33:47PM MOTION.
4:33:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
4:33:52PM WE LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT WE MEET IN ADVANCE OF COUNCIL
4:33:55PM MEETINGS JUST TO GET SOME UNDERSTANDING.
4:33:57PM WHEN I MADE THIS MOTION, I REALLY WAS, OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY
4:34:04PM WISHFUL THINKING THAT A DEVELOPER WOULD SAY, OH, YEAH, WE'LL
4:34:07PM MAKE THE YELLOW JACKETS WHOLE.
4:34:09PM THAT WOULD BE REALLY NICE OF US.
4:34:11PM WE HAVE THEIR LAND AND THEY CAN'T GET IT BACK.
4:34:15PM BUT THAT IS WISHFUL THINKING.
4:34:16PM THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE AND I ACTUALLY DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
4:34:19PM AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID EARLIER,
4:34:28PM AS A COUNCIL, HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT SPACES THAT WE OWN
4:34:32PM AND REALLY THINKING HOLISTICALLY ABOUT THE BENEFIT -- THE
4:34:36PM LONG-TERM BENEFIT AND WHAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM SOMEONE AS
4:34:40PM WELL.
4:34:40PM YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS CONSIDER THAT.
4:34:43PM AND IT SEEMS VERY CLEAR -- THEY ARE GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY
4:34:50PM I'M SAYING SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE I NEVER USE THE WORD
4:34:53PM RESOLUTION 568, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE READ IT A COUPLE OF
4:34:58PM TIMES.
4:34:58PM IT'S CLEAR OUR CITY HAS MADE SOME HORRIBLE DECISIONS
4:35:03PM REGARDING SPACES WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
4:35:07PM AND THERE ARE JUST NO SPACES.
4:35:09PM THESE SPACES THAT USED TO BE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK ARE NO
4:35:13PM LONGER THAT WAY.
4:35:14PM OUR BLACK COMMUNITIES, BLACK SPACES.
4:35:17PM AND THE YELLOW JACKETS IS ONE OF THEM.
4:35:19PM IT CAME OUT OF A HORRIBLE TIME IN 1967 WHEN A YOUNG MAN WAS
4:35:23PM KILLED ON CENTRAL AVENUE BY THE POLICE.
4:35:25PM JUST WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO THIS BODY, 120 ACRES AND YOU
4:35:31PM NEED THE BALLPARK TOO?
4:35:34PM JUST RIDICULOUS.
4:35:36PM A BALLPARK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACRES, COUPLE OF ACRES,
4:35:39PM PROBABLY FIVE MAYBE.
4:35:40PM I DON'T KNOW.
4:35:41PM BUT FOR A DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE RFP OF 120 ACRES AND NOT
4:35:47PM CONSIDER THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THIS ONE GROUND IS
4:35:50PM UNFORTUNATE.
4:35:51PM BUT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO HEAR THESE -- HEAR THESE HARD
4:35:55PM THINGS JUST LIKE I DO, THAT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT
4:35:58PM IT.
4:35:59PM AND SOMETIMES IT'S OUR JOB.
4:36:00PM YOU, MS. FEELEY, AS WELL AS ME, IS TO SAY THAT TO THE
4:36:04PM PUBLIC.
4:36:05PM IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
4:36:09PM OF COURSE, MR. WRIGHT WAS BEFORE US THIS MORNING.
4:36:13PM YOU CAN SEE THAT HE IS OF AGE, ONE OF OUR DEAR SENIOR
4:36:19PM CITIZENS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS HAS BEEN A PART OF HIS
4:36:22PM LIFE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, SO HE'S STILL FIGHTING THIS
4:36:27PM BATTLE.
4:36:27PM I DRIVE BY THE NEW SPACE, AND IT JUST -- YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
4:36:33PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO IMPROVE IT, BUT, OF COURSE, WE NEED
4:36:36PM TO TAKE CARE OF -- WE HAVE SO MANY ISSUES TO ADDRESS WITH
4:36:41PM OUR LARGE BUDGET.
4:36:44PM IT IS CONSTRICTED IN THAT WAY.
4:36:46PM I DO APPRECIATE THE REPORT.
4:36:48PM MAYBE THIS COULD BE AN APPEAL TO EVEN OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY
4:36:52PM PARTNERS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
4:36:55PM IF YOU LISTEN TO THINGS LIKE THIS, MAYBE WE COULD -- THERE
4:36:59PM COULD BE PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE COULD PURSUE TO
4:37:03PM MAKE THE YELLOW JACKETS WHOLE.
4:37:05PM THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS THIS: THE YELLOW JACKETS
4:37:09PM JUST LIKE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHERE YOU LIVE
4:37:13PM IS WHERE YOU PLAY BALL.
4:37:15PM SO NOW, WHERE THE YELLOW JACKETS IS LOCATED IN TAMPA
4:37:19PM HEIGHTS, THERE'S GENTRIFICATION CLEARLY THAT HAS TAKEN
4:37:23PM PLACE.
4:37:24PM A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED INTO THE COMMUNITY.
4:37:26PM I SAID THIS TO MS. FEELEY, THE PROBLEM IS, YES, THESE
4:37:29PM FAMILIES HAVE MOVED INTO THESE SPACES WITHIN THE CITY, BUT
4:37:32PM THEY DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS TO PLAY FOR THE YELLOW JACKETS.
4:37:39PM THAT'S HOW THIS DECISION THAT WAS MADE UP HERE EVEN IMPACTS,
4:37:42PM CONTINUES TO IMPACT A PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY ARE BEGGING TO GO
4:37:45PM PLAY IN NORTH TAMPA AND SOUTH TAMPA AND AT OTHER BALLPARKS
4:37:50PM THAT ARE MORE APPEALING FOR THEIR CHILDREN.
4:37:52PM SO WE CAN'T EVEN DEVELOP AND GROW THE YELLOW JACKETS FAIRLY
4:37:57PM BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS PLAYING ACROSS THE
4:38:00PM STREET FROM A GRAVEYARD.
4:38:02PM SO THAT'S HOW MUCH THIS DECISION HAS IMPACTED US.
4:38:06PM IN THE FUTURE, EVEN WITH OUR RACIAL RECONCILIATION
4:38:10PM COMMITTEE, ANYTIME THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY -- ANYTIME THAT
4:38:13PM THERE'S SPACE THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE IN THIS CITY, I'M GOING
4:38:17PM TO TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WAS WRITTEN IN
4:38:19PM RESOLUTION 568.
4:38:24PM I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT
4:38:26PM TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
4:38:28PM THANK YOU.
4:38:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN A BROADER CONVERSATION, AND I'VE
4:38:34PM MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.
4:38:35PM YOU HAVE WEST TAMPA.
4:38:36PM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
4:38:37PM KNOWN AS BELEECHA BOULEVARD.
4:38:40PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK ENGLISH BECAUSE SO MANY SPANISH
4:38:42PM OWNED BUSINESSES.
4:38:43PM YBOR CITY, THE BEDROCK AND FOUNDATION IS THE JEWISH
4:38:46PM COMMUNITY HISTORICALLY.
4:38:47PM THE ITALIAN COMMUNITY.
4:38:48PM THE SICILIANS, SPANIARDS, CUBANS.
4:38:51PM CENTRAL AVENUE AND PERRY HARVEY PARK AND SOME BUILDINGS
4:38:55PM ALONG SHOREMAN'S BUILDING.
4:38:57PM THE JACKSON HOUSE THAT'S BARELY STANDING BUT THE REST OF IT
4:39:01PM WAS DEMOLISHED.
4:39:02PM IT SEEMS LIKE WE PRESERVED -- HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS
4:39:06PM SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT TO ME.
4:39:08PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT INSPIRED ME TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL
4:39:11PM WAS LOOKING AT TAMPA'S PAST SO WE CAN BUILD FOR THE FUTURE.
4:39:14PM HAVING SAID THAT, SO MUCH WAS LOST.
4:39:17PM I'VE TALKED TO LEADERS FROM THE PAST, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
4:39:20PM CENTRAL AVENUE.
4:39:21PM IMAGINE A BLACK YBOR CITY, BUSINESS OWNERS, RESIDENTS, THAT
4:39:25PM WAS ALL WIPED OUT.
4:39:27PM YES, WE HAVE PERRY HARVEY PARK, BUT THAT WAS A COMMUNITY.
4:39:30PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS, I WISH WE COULD DO A 3D VIRTUAL
4:39:34PM WALK-THROUGH JUST TO EXPERIENCE WHAT IT IS LIKE.
4:39:37PM THERE IS A MOVIE BLACK LIKE ME BASED ON A BOOK.
4:39:40PM IF YOU WATCH THE MOVIE AND I CAN PULL IT UP ON YouTube,
4:39:43PM THERE IS A SCENE WHERE A MAN IS GETTING OFF A BUS ON CENTRAL
4:39:46PM AVENUE AND THE ONLY FILM FOOTAGE I'VE SEEN OF CENTRAL AVENUE
4:39:50PM AND A HANDFUL OF PHOTOS.
4:39:51PM WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON SAYS WHENEVER THERE IS THE
4:39:54PM OPPORTUNITY, SO MUCH HAS BEEN ERASED.
4:39:56PM I CAN TAKE TO YBOR CITY, I CAN TAKE YOU DOWN COLUMBUS DRIVE,
4:40:01PM MY CHILDHOOD HOME AND THE OTHER HOUSE LIVED IN AND SHOW YOU
4:40:05PM WHERE I WAS BORN, BUT CERTAIN COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE THAT.
4:40:08PM THEY HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS AND HISTORICAL MARKERS.
4:40:14PM I GUESS THE GUILT OF WHAT WAS DEMOLISHED IN THE PAST AND
4:40:18PM WHAT WAS LOST.
4:40:19PM THE YELLOW JACKETS FITS RIGHT INTO THIS BECAUSE IT IS SO
4:40:22PM HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT.
4:40:23PM I'VE HAD PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS ASK ME ABOUT THIS.
4:40:26PM GOING BACK TO THE 1960s, 1967 YOU MENTIONED MARTIN
4:40:30PM CHAMBERS WHO WAS SHOT AND KILLED AND THAT TRIGGERED RIOTS
4:40:33PM AND MAYBE THE BEGINNING OF THE DOWNFALL OF CENTRAL AVENUE.
4:40:37PM I DON'T KNOW.
4:40:37PM BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A BETTER EFFORT AT PRESERVING OUR
4:40:42PM HISTORY AND RESTORING WHAT WAS LOST.
4:40:44PM THERE ARE SO MANY EXAMPLES.
4:40:46PM AGAIN, CERTAIN COMMUNITIES ARE PRESERVED.
4:40:48PM THE CHINA TOWNS AND LITTLE ITALYS.
4:40:52PM BLACK COMMUNITIES, MAYBE HARLEM IN NEW YORK AND WHATNOT,
4:40:55PM HERE IN TAMPA, THAT HARLEM OF THE SOUTH, IT WAS COMPLETELY
4:40:58PM WIPED OUT.
4:40:59PM I'VE TALKED TO LEADERSHIP FROM THE PAST.
4:41:01PM I EITHER HEAR THEY WANTED TO TEAR IT DOWN OR THE INTERSTATE
4:41:04PM WAS COMING THROUGH.
4:41:06PM IT'S ALWAYS AN EXCUSE BUT ALWAYS AFFECTING THE SAME
4:41:10PM COMMUNITIES, IF IT'S HERE IN TAMPA OR THE REST OF THE UNITED
4:41:13PM STATES.
4:41:14PM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.
4:41:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE IS A BOOK BY SARAH McNAMARA, A
4:41:20PM PROFESSOR AT TEXAS A & M UNIVERSITY.
4:41:23PM SHE WAS HERE FOR A BOOK-SIGNING EVENT.
4:41:30PM IN HER BOOK -- I DON'T WANT TO START CRYING UP HERE -- BUT
4:41:34PM LITERALLY, THE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY DESTROYING
4:41:39PM THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
4:41:40PM THEY CAME TO CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAPPENED.
4:41:44PM DON'T LET THEM COME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:41:46PM WORD FOR WORD, EVERY COMMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
4:41:49PM SUPPORTED.
4:41:51PM SO THAT'S WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM.
4:41:54PM THE HISTORICAL REFERENCES ARE STILL THERE PROVING THAT IT
4:41:56PM WAS DONE.
4:41:57PM GET THE CAMERA OFF OF ME.
4:42:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
4:42:01PM ANYBODY ELSE?
4:42:01PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:42:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE REALLY APPRECIATE -- WEARING THEIR HEART ON
4:42:12PM THEIR SLEEVE.
4:42:12PM IT TAKES A LOT OF GUTS AND A LOT OF HEART TO BARE YOUR SOUL
4:42:20PM ON SOMETHING SO PERSONAL.
4:42:22PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
4:42:23PM THAT'S ALL.
4:42:24PM THANK YOU.
4:42:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:42:25PM YES, SIR.
4:42:26PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:42:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: I ECHO THE SAME THING.
4:42:30PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
4:42:31PM FOR REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY.
4:42:33PM WE ARE ALL OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME.
4:42:36PM WHAT SHE'S REPRESENTING, THE EMOTION AND THE FEELINGS IS
4:42:39PM WHAT WE HEAR NOT JUST IN THE CHAMBER BUT EVERY DAY OUT IN
4:42:42PM THE COMMUNITY.
4:42:43PM I HOPE THAT WE CAN LIVE UP TO THE STANDARD OF REPRESENTING
4:42:47PM THE COMMUNITY BROADLY AND CORRECTING SOME OF THE WRONGS OF
4:42:52PM THE PAST.
4:42:53PM THANK YOU.
4:42:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
4:42:54PM ITEM NUMBER 76, MS. ABBYE FEELEY HAS A VERBAL UPDATE.
4:43:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: JUST A VERY QUICK UPDATE.
4:43:03PM ABBYE FEELEY.
4:43:04PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
4:43:05PM ON THE CODE UPDATE.
4:43:09PM PUBLIC KICKOFF MEETING IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER, MONDAY,
4:43:11PM SEPTEMBER 16 AT THE HANNA CENTER.
4:43:15PM JUST WANT TO PUT THE FLYER UP FOR A MINUTE.
4:43:17PM THOSE OF YOU TAMPA FORWARD, BUILDING TOMORROW TOGETHER.
4:43:21PM YOU WILL SEE THIS NOW.
4:43:23PM WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET SOME OF THE SPACE ON THE KIOSKS IN
4:43:26PM DOWNTOWN, SO THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO START.
4:43:29PM IT WILL START NEXT MONDAY THROUGH THE MONDAY OF THE MEETING.
4:43:33PM JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE IDEA, WE HAVE FINISHED CREATING AN
4:43:38PM ADVISORY TEAM FOR THE CODE UPDATE.
4:43:41PM THAT IS A 12-MEMBER TEAM THAT IS A DIVERSIFIED GROUP FROM
4:43:47PM MANY OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ENGAGE WITH THE LAND
4:43:52PM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
4:43:53PM ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURE, TREE AND LANDSCAPE, YIMBY, THAN.
4:43:59PM WE HAVE A GOOD GROUP THAT ARE GOING TO SERVE ALSO AS KIND OF
4:44:02PM AN INTERMEDIARY THERE FOR THE PUBLIC.
4:44:05PM WE'VE HAD A PUBLIC SURVEY UP.
4:44:08PM CLOSE TO 450 RESPONSES TO THAT.
4:44:10PM OUR SOFTWARE IS AMAZING.
4:44:13PM WE CAN SEE IF THERE ARE DUPLICATES COMING FROM HOUSEHOLDS
4:44:16PM AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
4:44:17PM RIGHT NOW 443 THAT HAVE COME IN.
4:44:20PM WE HAVE 60 PARTICIPANTS CURRENTLY SIGNED UP TO PARTICIPATE
4:44:23PM AT THE MONDAY NIGHT.
4:44:24PM AND I WOULD, OF COURSE, LIKE TO INVITE COUNCIL TO BE PRESENT
4:44:29PM THAT NIGHT IF THAT IS YOUR DESIRE.
4:44:31PM IT IS NOT A PUBLICLY NOTICED COUNCIL MEETING, SO IT WOULD BE
4:44:35PM MORE LISTENING FOR COUNCIL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. SHELBY
4:44:40PM WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
4:44:41PM BUT I HAVE CONTINUED TO TELL YOU I WILL BE HERE TO LET YOU
4:44:44PM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, HOW'S IT
4:44:48PM GOING AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT BRIEF UPDATE TODAY.
4:44:50PM IT'S AT HANNA AVENUE.
4:44:55PM DOORS OPEN AT 6:30.
4:44:56PM DOORS OPEN AT 6:30.
4:45:06PM THE PROGRAM WILL BE AT 7.
4:45:08PM THE CONSULTANTS WILL BE IN.
4:45:09PM THEY WILL BE THERE TO PARTICIPATE.
4:45:12PM CLEARLY, AND ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE
4:45:16PM TO FORGE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN UPDATING
4:45:19PM OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TOGETHER.
4:45:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
4:45:23PM YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL ALWAYS BE HERE TO UPDATE
4:45:25PM US.
4:45:25PM LET ME SAY FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, YOU ARE ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE.
4:45:29PM YOU ALWAYS ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.
4:45:31PM YOU ALWAYS TAKE MY CALLS.
4:45:32PM YOU ALWAYS DO A WONDERFUL JOB.
4:45:34PM I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGED.
4:45:37PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
4:45:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE A VERY BUSY PERSON AND THERE IS
4:45:40PM A LOT GOING ON.
4:45:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE HOW MANY JOBS NOW?
4:45:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, YOU DO A LOT.
4:45:44PM ITEM NUMBER 77, WE HAD MR. BHIDE HERE EARLIER REGARDING THE
4:45:49PM FLOODING.
4:45:50PM I KNOW THIS IS ABOUT PIPES AND THERE IS A PowerPoint
4:45:53PM PRESENTATION.
4:45:54PM MR. BAIRD, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FROM THERE.
4:45:56PM >>BRAD BAIRD: I WILL.
4:45:58PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
4:45:59PM BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
4:46:04PM TODAY IS THE FIVE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE PIPES APPROVAL.
4:46:08PM ON SEPTEMBER 5th, 2019, FOUR PEOPLE ON THIS CITY COUNCIL
4:46:13PM WERE A PART OF THAT HISTORIC VOTE FOR $2.88 BILLION PROGRAM
4:46:19PM TO REHABILITATE AND REPLACE WATER AND WASTEWATER
4:46:22PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
4:46:24PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT BACK THEN.
4:46:28PM WITH THAT INTRODUCTION, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ERIC AND RORY
4:46:34PM TO GO THROUGH MORE DETAILS.
4:46:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN FIVE
4:46:37PM YEARS.
4:46:40PM >>BRAD BAIRD: AND BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
4:46:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TIME FLIES.
4:46:45PM >>ERIC WEISS: ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
4:46:47PM I'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.
4:46:50PM THE BACKBONE OF OUR PIPES PROGRAM IN THE WASTEWATER
4:46:54PM DEPARTMENT IS OUR MASTER PLAN.
4:46:55PM THAT'S WHAT WE FIRST DID.
4:46:57PM WE DID A MASTER PLAN FOR OUR ONE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT,
4:47:00PM HOWARD F. CURREN ADVANCED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AT PORT
4:47:05PM TAMPA BAY.
4:47:05PM WE HAVE 229 WASTEWATER PUMPING STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
4:47:10PM DID ANOTHER ONE FOR THAT.
4:47:11PM A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT.
4:47:13PM FINALLY, WE DID ONE FOR THE ACTUAL PIPES IN THE GROUND
4:47:16PM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, ABOUT 15 HUNDRED MILES OF PIPE.
4:47:20PM ADDING THAT ALL TOGETHER, $1.37 BILLION.
4:47:24PM WHERE ARE WE AT?
4:47:25PM THIS IS AN UPDATED SLIDE.
4:47:27PM SO FIVE YEARS TO THE DAY, WE AWARDED 99 PROJECTS FOR $480
4:47:32PM MILLION.
4:47:34PM SINCE OUR LAST UPDATE SIX MONTHS AGO ON THERE ARE FOUR
4:47:39PM ADDITIONAL PROJECTS FOR AN ADDITIONAL TOTAL OF 20 MILLION.
4:47:43PM THAT WAS REALLY MOSTLY ONE PROJECT.
4:47:45PM YOU MAY REMEMBER I CAME AND DID A BAYSHORE WASTEWATER
4:47:49PM PUMPING STATION IN THE MEDIAN OF BAYSHORE AT STOVALL AND
4:47:54PM MASON STREET.
4:47:55PM THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.
4:47:57PM AS WE REMEMBER, TOO, SIX MONTHS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT, HEY,
4:48:01PM THESE MASTER PLANS WERE DONE BEFORE COVID, BEFORE THE
4:48:04PM INFLATION, SO OUR CALCULATION SIX MONTHS AGO IS ABOUT $181
4:48:07PM MILLION OF ADDITIONAL COSTS IF WE DID THE SAME EXACT MASTER
4:48:13PM PLANS.
4:48:13PM I THINK WE'RE STILL OKAY.
4:48:15PM WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAD REALLY SOUND MASTER PLANS AT THE
4:48:20PM PLANT FOR NEW PROCESSES, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD FIX THE STUFF
4:48:25PM THAT'S BROKEN, AS I ALWAYS SAY, FIRST.
4:48:27PM THESE ARE ALL ADDITIONAL THINGS.
4:48:29PM AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE DONE 12 TO 20 YEARS IN THIS MASTER
4:48:34PM PLAN, SO WE HAVE TIME TO COME BACK AND MAYBE DO GRANTS OR
4:48:37PM SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
4:48:39PM I WANT TO QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT JUST TWO PROJECTS THAT'S GOING
4:48:41PM TO BE COMING IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
4:48:44PM BIG ONE, BIOGAS USE AND DIGESTIVE SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS.
4:48:48PM WHAT IS THAT?
4:48:49PM EITHER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, RAW SLUDGE IS COLLECTED
4:48:54PM THROUGHOUT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROCESS.
4:48:56PM IN TAMPA, WE TREAT THAT SLUDGE TO A DEGREE THAT LETS IT GO
4:49:01PM TO LAND APPLICATION AND ENVIRONMENTALLY IMPROVE RANCHES
4:49:05PM THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
4:49:06PM WELL, WE TREAT THAT SLUDGE IN THE BIG TANKS YOU SEE HERE,
4:49:11PM HELD ANAEROBIC DIGESTERS.
4:49:14PM PUT IN RAW SLUDGE, HEAT IT UP FOR 15 DAYS AND BREAKS DOWN
4:49:19PM ALL THE PROTOZOANS, ORGANIC BACTERIA AND BAD STUFF, I'LL
4:49:24PM CALL IT, WHICH ALLOWS IT TO BE USED FOR LAND APPLICATION.
4:49:28PM MOST OF THE TANKS WERE BUILT IN THE 1950s WITH THE
4:49:32PM ORIGINAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
4:49:34PM THEY ARE PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE.
4:49:36PM IN ADDITION, ANOTHER THEME YOU MAY REMEMBER ME SAY, A LOT OF
4:49:41PM THE CONTROL EQUIPMENT FOR THIS STUFF, PANELS, HEAT EXCHANGES
4:49:45PM AND THINGS ARE IN BASEMENTS BELOW GRADE.
4:49:48PM SO IN THE LENS OF SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE, WE'RE
4:49:52PM GOING TO REBUILD THOSE ABOVE GRADE.
4:49:55PM SO THIS IS NOW ABOUT $112 MILLION PROJECT.
4:49:59PM WE ARE READY TO GO.
4:50:00PM IT'S PLANNED TO COME TO COUNCIL HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH FOR
4:50:03PM YOUR APPROVAL.
4:50:04PM ONE MORE SIMILAR PROJECT TO THIS, THOSE ANAEROBIC DIGESTERS
4:50:10PM I TALKED ABOUT, IN THAT PROCESS WE MAKE METHANE, ABOUT 1.4
4:50:15PM -- EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT 1.4 MILLION GALLONS OF DIESEL FUEL.
4:50:19PM AND WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE THE 1970s WITH THAT METHANE, WE
4:50:24PM PUT IT IN GENERATORS AND MADE ELECTRICITY TO OFFSET ABOUT
4:50:28PM 20% OF THE ELECTRICAL BILL AT THE PLANT.
4:50:31PM WELL, ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, THOSE FINALLY WERE BROKEN,
4:50:36PM IRREPARABLE.
4:50:37PM AT THAT TIME, WE DID THE MASTER PLAN, WE DID A BUNCH OF
4:50:40PM ANALYSIS, WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE AND WE PICKED,
4:50:43PM LET'S DO NEW COGENERATORS.
4:50:46PM WELL, AS INFLATION HIT, THOSE COGENERATORS GOT TWO OR THREE
4:50:50PM TIMES THE AMOUNT THAT WAS IN THE MASTER PLAN.
4:50:53PM SO WE TOLD OUR CONSULTANT, GO BACK, LOOK AT THE BUSINESS
4:50:56PM CASES FOR THESE THINGS.
4:50:58PM WELL, IT CHANGED EVERYTHING.
4:50:59PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE MIDDLE SLIDE, THAT'S CALLED A FLAIR.
4:51:03PM FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING WITH
4:51:05PM OUR EXTRA METHANE, BURNING IT OFF INTO THE ATMOSPHERE.
4:51:09PM WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE SELECTIVE ALTERNATIVE, TAKE THAT
4:51:12PM METHANE, CLEAN IT UP.
4:51:13PM YOU CAN SEE THE TOP PICTURE, THE MEMBRANES AND YOU COULD
4:51:17PM ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT INTO THE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE.
4:51:21PM THERE IS A BIG MARKET NOW.
4:51:23PM IF YOU USE IT FOR TRANSPORTATION, AS YOU PUT IT OUT THERE,
4:51:26PM YOU CAN SEE THAT LAST PICTURE AS AN EXAMPLE.
4:51:30PM IF YOU CAN GET WHAT IS CALLED A RIN CREDIT.
4:51:35PM ANY EQUIVALENT GALLON YOU PRODUCE OF DIESEL, YOU GET THIS
4:51:39PM RIN CREDIT AND YOU CAN SELL THAT ON THE OPEN MARKET.
4:51:43PM THE GOOD THING IS, GOOGLE OR OTHER ENTITIES WANT TO BE
4:51:47PM CARBON NEUTRAL, THEY BUY THOSE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE
4:51:51PM CARBON NEUTRAL.
4:51:52PM SO THERE IS A BIG MARKET FOR IT NOW.
4:51:55PM HERE IS WHERE WE ARE AT.
4:51:57PM THERE IS ONE MORE PROGRAM OUT THERE TO DO THE RENEWABLE
4:52:01PM NATURAL GAS PRODUCTS.
4:52:02PM AND IT IS THE IRS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
4:52:05PM THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU TAX CREDIT TOWARD YOUR CONSTRUCTION
4:52:11PM COST OF THESE DIGESTERS.
4:52:13PM FOR US, IT COULD BE $20 MILLION.
4:52:15PM IT'S LOOKING PROMISING.
4:52:18PM THERE ARE NEW REGULATIONS THAT COME OUT.
4:52:20PM THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT, WE'RE USED TO EPA GRANTS OR FEMA
4:52:23PM GRANTS, NOT USED TO IRS GRANTS.
4:52:25PM SO IT LOOKS PROMISING AND THE RULES ARE CURRENTLY BEING
4:52:30PM DEVELOPED SO WE'VE HIRED A TAX CONSULTANT TO HELP US OUT FOR
4:52:34PM THIS NEW PROGRAM.
4:52:36PM HOPEFULLY THAT WILL WORK OUT.
4:52:38PM IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, WE CAN COME TO YOU GUYS TO MAKE RNG,
4:52:43PM RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS.
4:52:44PM NO QUESTIONS, I CAN TURN IT OVER TO RORY.
4:52:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THE PRESENTATION
4:52:49PM FINISHED.
4:52:50PM HOW MANY PARTS ARE IN THIS WHOLE PRESENTATION?
4:53:00PM >> JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
4:53:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU MIND IF WE HOLD QUESTIONS?
4:53:03PM IF IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
4:53:05PM >> RORY JONES, WATER DEPARTMENT.
4:53:08PM SIMILAR TO THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT, OUR PIPES PROGRAM WAS
4:53:10PM BUILT OFF OF TWO MASTER PLAN EFFORTS AS WELL.
4:53:13PM DAVID L. TIPPIN WATER TREATMENT FACILITY MASTER PLAN AND
4:53:17PM DISTRIBUTION MASTER PLAN.
4:53:19PM I DON'T HAVE ANY EXCITING NUMBERS FROM LAST SIX MONTHS.
4:53:23PM WE EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
4:53:28PM YOU DID RECENTLY APPROVE A CHANGE ORDER ASSOCIATED WITH THE
4:53:31PM HIGH WATER PUMP STATION, WHICH THE REQUISITION HASN'T HIT
4:53:34PM YET.
4:53:35PM HASN'T SHOWN UP.
4:53:36PM BUT WE ARE BRINGING SOME ADDITIONAL WORK TO YOU.
4:53:40PM GMPs IN RAW WATER PUMP STATION, OZONE IMPROVEMENTS AND
4:53:45PM OTHER LARGE PIPELINE PROJECTS.
4:53:46PM ORIGINALLY 1.5 BILLION.
4:53:50PM WE HAVE EXPENDED ROUGHLY $466 MILLION OF THAT.
4:53:56PM THAT WAS SPREAD ACROSS FOUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS.
4:54:01PM AND REALLY, WHAT'S TAKING THE HIT AT THIS MOMENT, NOW, WE
4:54:04PM HAVE KNOCKED OUT FROM OUR DISTRIBUTION MASTER PLAN, WE
4:54:08PM PRIORITIZE THE REPLACEMENTS BASED ON A TON OF DIFFERENT
4:54:12PM VARIABLES.
4:54:13PM PRESSURE, ACTUAL MAIN BREAK DATA, FLOW, THE LOCATION OF IT,
4:54:19PM EVEN WHERE THE GROUNDWATER TABLE IS.
4:54:23PM AGE, MATERIAL TYPE, A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO PRIORITIZE.
4:54:28PM WE'VE KNOCKED OFF THE TOP AND HIGHEST PRIORITIES OF ALL THE
4:54:33PM PIPELINE, NOT TO SAY WE AREN'T GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE
4:54:35PM BREAKS, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN THE WORST ONES WITH THE HIGHEST
4:54:39PM CONSEQUENCES OF FAILURE OUT OF THE WAY.
4:54:41PM AND WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED THE REMAINING BUDGET IS REALLY
4:54:46PM WHERE THE CONSEQUENCES OF FAILURE AND THE BIGGEST BANG FOR
4:54:52PM THE BUCK GO.
4:54:53PM AND THAT IS REALLY OUR TREATMENT PLANT WORK.
4:54:58PM THE WORK WE ARE DEFERRING IS REALLY OUR PIPELINE STUFF.
4:55:01PM WE ARE EXPLORING DIFFERENT WAYS TO MAKE OUR DOLLARS GO
4:55:06PM FURTHER.
4:55:07PM THAT'S WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION CREW.
4:55:09PM WE ARE EXPLORING PIPE BURSTING AND OTHER WAYS TO KEEP COSTS
4:55:14PM LOWER.
4:55:15PM BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE OUR COSTS ARE -- WHERE WE'RE
4:55:19PM DEFERRING PROJECTS.
4:55:23PM AT THE CURRENT MOMENT, WE ARE ROUGHLY SEVEN YEARS BEHIND IN
4:55:27PM THE OVERALL PROGRAM ON THE PIPELINE SIDE.
4:55:30PM BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT -- YOU KNOW, THESE RATES WILL STILL
4:55:35PM COME INTO PLAY AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO GET MORE AND MORE
4:55:38PM COMPETITIVE AND HOPE TO SEE THAT SWING BACK THE OTHER
4:55:42PM DIRECTION HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
4:55:43PM WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS FOR YOU.
4:55:46PM OUR HIGH SERVICE PUMP STATION.
4:55:48PM THIS IS A CUTAWAY THAT SHOWS CLEAR WELLS, UNDERGROUND
4:55:56PM STORAGE TANKS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE GRASS OVER, IF YOU GO OUT
4:55:59PM TO THE SITE, BUT THIS IS A NEW MODERN FACILITY THAT WE ARE
4:56:04PM RELOCATING 8 DIFFERENT PUMPS THAT DATE BACK TO THE 1920s
4:56:09PM INTO THIS MODERN-DAY FACILITY THAT GIVES US A BUNCH OF
4:56:14PM REDUNDANCY AND RESILIENCY BUILT INTO IT.
4:56:17PM WE HAVE COMPLETED THE BUILDING.
4:56:20PM WE'RE WRAPPING UP VARIOUS PUNCH-LIST ITEMS OF THE BUILDING
4:56:26PM ITSELF, INCLUDING THE PLAQUE, WHICH ACKNOWLEDGES YOUR
4:56:29PM SUPPORT.
4:56:30PM AND WHEN WE OFFICIALLY PUSH THAT BUTTON OF CUTTING THE
4:56:33PM RIBBON ON THIS, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU GUYS OUT THERE.
4:56:36PM TO WRAP THIS PROJECT UP, WE ARE DOING SOME ADDITIONAL REHAB
4:56:43PM OF UNDERGROUND TANKS.
4:56:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WEREN'T ELECTED YET.
4:56:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SAID ORLANDO GUDES.
4:56:54PM >> -- TECHNICALLY APPROVED AND YOU WILL BE ON THE NEXT ONES.
4:56:58PM I HEAR YOU.
4:56:59PM YOUR NAME WILL BE THERE AS WELL.
4:57:03PM SO TO WRAP THIS PROJECT -- AROUND REHABS OF THE STORAGE
4:57:18PM TANKS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET IN THE DRY.
4:57:23PM THAT'S THE $4.5 MILLION CHANGE ORDER THAT YOU APPROVED.
4:57:28PM WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT SORT OF CONDITIONS THOSE WERE IN.
4:57:32PM WHEN WE WALK AWAY FROM THIS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUTTONED
4:57:38PM UP FACILITY THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN PROPERLY IN THE
4:57:41PM FUTURE.
4:57:42PM THE NEXT PROJECT I'M EXCITED ABOUT.
4:57:44PM ONE OF THE BIG MILESTONES THAT WE RECENTLY HIT WAS
4:57:47PM DECOMMISSIONING OUR GASEOUS CHLORINE AND COMMISSIONING
4:57:53PM ON-SITE -- WELL, WE'RE USING HYPOCHLORITE WHICH IS
4:57:58PM ESSENTIALLY BLEACH.
4:58:00PM THIS FACILITY YOU SEE HERE IN FRONT OF US IS WHERE OUR
4:58:03PM RAILCARS USED TO PULL IN.
4:58:05PM WE DID DECOMMISSION THAT.
4:58:06PM THIS IS WHERE OUR HYPOCHLORITE GENERATORS WILL GO.
4:58:09PM WE WILL GENERATE OUR OWN BLEACH ON-SITE, MAKE US LESS
4:58:13PM RELIANT ON MANUFACTURERS.
4:58:19PM AND SHIPPING.
4:58:19PM THIS HAS MADE OUR COMMUNITY SIGNIFICANTLY SAFER BY
4:58:22PM DECOMMISSIONING THOSE GASEOUS CHLORINE RAILCAR SYSTEMS.
4:58:26PM HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
4:58:31PM MAKING PROGRESS.
4:58:31PM RIGHT NOW WORKING ON BULK SYSTEMS AND OVER THE NEXT YEAR, WE
4:58:36PM WILL BE IMPLEMENTING THESE ON-SITE HYPOCHLORITE GENERATORS.
4:58:40PM WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE WE DO HAVE MASTER PLAN
4:58:45PM EFFORTS.
4:58:45PM WE WANT TO REVISIT OUR CONTRIBUTION MASTER PLAN.
4:58:48PM EVENTUALLY REVISIT THE DLT MASTER PLAN, MAKE SURE THAT WE
4:58:53PM HAVE PROPERLY ALLOCATED OUR PIPELINES.
4:58:56PM MIDTOWN WASN'T NECESSARILY A THING THEN.
4:58:58PM WE NEED TO CONSTANTLY REFRESH AND SEE WHERE OUR MONEY IS
4:59:02PM BEST SPENT.
4:59:03PM I'M HOPING TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES THAT SHOW THAT PIPELINE.
4:59:08PM SOME OF THAT PIPELINE MAY NOT BE NECESSARY.
4:59:10PM WE DO HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THE OZONE -- OR IMPROVEMENTS COMING
4:59:14PM YOUR WAY.
4:59:15PM RAW WATER PUMP STATION IS COMING YOUR WAY.
4:59:18PM WE ARE ACTIVELY IN SIX INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
4:59:24PM I'M HOPING EARLY -- LATE THIS YEAR, EARLY NEXT YEAR, YOU'LL
4:59:28PM SEE THAT AMENDMENT FOR DESIGN SERVICES FOR SIX AND
4:59:31PM OFFICIALLY STILL KICK THAT ONE OFF.
4:59:34PM WITH THAT, I GUESS I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS.
4:59:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE HOUSE YOU SHOWED ON LAST SLIDE IS
4:59:40PM QUESTIONS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
4:59:42PM ONE OF A HANDFUL OF THE CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOWS THAT HAVE THE
4:59:46PM JAPANESE ARCHITECTURE.
4:59:51PM VERY FEW IN TAMPA BUT REALLY COOL FOR THOSE LITTLE DETAILS.
4:59:54PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
4:59:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
4:59:56PM I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU.
4:59:58PM I DO WANT TO GO BACK A BIT TO THE SLUDGE CONVERSATION.
5:00:02PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE READ, THE NEW YORK TIMES DID A PIECE
5:00:06PM MAYBE LAST WEEK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF SLUDGE AND HOW THEY ARE
5:00:09PM REALLY LOOKING AT SLUDGE AS IMPACTING THE FIELDS UPON WHERE
5:00:15PM IT'S PUT.
5:00:17PM SOME OF THOSE PLASTIC PARTICLES OR THINGS WE DON'T TAKE OUT
5:00:20PM THAT ARE GOING INTO COWS OR WHATEVER.
5:00:24PM I'M JUST CURIOUS THAT AS YOU GO FORWARD, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR
5:00:28PM OTHER THINGS TO DO WITH THAT SLUDGE IF THE EPA DECIDES THAT
5:00:34PM PUTTING IT ONTO FIELDS OR OTHER AGRICULTURAL USES CAN'T BE
5:00:39PM DONE ANYMORE?
5:00:41PM >> GOOD QUESTION.
5:00:42PM WHAT WE'VE DONE WON'T GO TO WASTE.
5:00:44PM WHAT YOU COULD DO, WE HAVE TO TREAT OUR SLUDGE ANYWAY.
5:00:47PM SO INSTEAD OF TAKING IT DIRECTLY AND DISPOSE OF IT IN
5:00:51PM RANCHES FOR LAND DISPOSAL, WE CAN MAKE PELLETS OF IT.
5:00:56PM BURN THEM.
5:00:56PM EVER AT HOME DEPOT AND BAGS OF -- THAT'S FROM ADVANCED
5:01:03PM WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.
5:01:04PM WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING NOW.
5:01:06PM WE HAVE TO GO ANOTHER STEP TO TREAT IT FURTHER, BUT WE STILL
5:01:11PM HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING NOW.
5:01:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T DOUBT THAT AT ALL.
5:01:15PM I WAS CURIOUS AFTER HAVING READ THAT, IT WAS IN THE BACK OF
5:01:18PM MY MIND OF WHAT COMES NEXT.
5:01:20PM AGAIN, APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU.
5:01:22PM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS YOU'RE DOING TO MAKE OUR
5:01:24PM CITY BETTER AND THANKS TO THE FOUR OF YOU WHO WERE ABLE TO
5:01:27PM VOTE FOR THIS PIPES PROGRAM.
5:01:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I TOLD THE MAYOR, FOR THE LEGACY, FOR
5:01:34PM THE HISTORIC PROPORTION, THIS IS THE LARGEST INFRASTRUCTURE
5:01:39PM INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA HISTORY BY FAR.
5:01:42PM IT'S A HUGE DEAL.
5:01:43PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
5:01:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING WE DID, WE CARVED TOILET TO
5:01:47PM TAP OUT OF IT.
5:01:49PM ANOTHER GOOD THING.
5:01:50PM IT WAS 3.2 BILLION AND TOOK OUT 300 MILLION WHICH TOOK
5:01:55PM TOILET TO TAP OUT.
5:01:56PM PROBABLY THE PUBLIC IS WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
5:01:58PM THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
5:02:02PM THANK YOU FOR WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH US AND CONSTITUENTS.
5:02:05PM RORY, YOU SHOWED THE NEW PROCESSORS.
5:02:10PM THE TERM WAS HIGH VOLUME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
5:02:13PM CAN EACH OF YOU EXPLAIN JUST TWO QUICK QUESTIONS?
5:02:18PM WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE WE MAKING?
5:02:19PM I THINK IN RORY'S PLANT, WATER IS GOING FASTER, HIGHER
5:02:23PM VOLUME.
5:02:24PM ARE WE BUILDING BIGGER CAPACITIES LIKE IN SLUDGE PONDS, ARE
5:02:27PM WE BUILDING, NOT JUST BUILDING THE SAME THING IN PLACE,
5:02:30PM BUILDING HIGHER CAPACITY FOR THE FUTURE OR WHAT IS THE
5:02:33PM STATUS?
5:02:34PM >> THAT'S EXACTLY IT.
5:02:35PM BUILDING MORE CAPACITY.
5:02:37PM IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUMP OUT
5:02:40PM MORE.
5:02:40PM IT'S BUILDING MORE CAPACITY FOR US TO TREAT MORE.
5:02:47PM THE WAY IT'S SITUATED, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE -- WE
5:02:52PM HAVE REDUNDANCY BUILT IN.
5:02:54PM THE ABILITY TO TAKE PUMPS OUT AND SERVICE PUMPS.
5:02:56PM SO WE DO HAVE A HIGHER CAPACITY, BUT THE HIGHER CAPACITY IS
5:03:00PM SO WE CAN TAKE PUMPS OUT OF SERVICE AND PROPERLY MAINTAIN
5:03:04PM IT.
5:03:05PM THERE ARE TIMES OF THE YEAR WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY
5:03:08PM TO TAKE OUT EQUIPMENT OR ASSETS OUT OF SERVICE TO PROPERLY
5:03:12PM MAINTAIN.
5:03:13PM WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THE LIVE WITH WATER FLOWING THROUGH IT
5:03:17PM OR WE DON'T NECESSARILY MAINTAIN IT AS WE SHOULD.
5:03:22PM IT IS HIGHER CAPACITY, BUT GIVE US THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN
5:03:27PM IT.
5:03:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE]
5:03:29PM FASTER TOO, RIGHT?
5:03:32PM >> IT DOES, BUT WE STILL MAINTAIN OUTWARD PRESSURE OF 70 PSI
5:03:36PM COMING OUT OF THE PLANT.
5:03:40PM >> BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE QUESTION IS NO.
5:03:42PM SO OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS RATED TO TREAT, ON
5:03:46PM AVERAGE, 96 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
5:03:49PM I'VE BEEN HERE 33 YEARS, AND IT'S BEEN ANYWHERE, WE'VE SEEN
5:03:52PM 55 MILLION TO 60, AND WHY IS THAT?
5:03:56PM SEVERAL REASONS.
5:03:58PM WATER IS A COMMODITY.
5:04:00PM PEOPLE ARE USING LESS GALLONS PER PERSON, PER DAY.
5:04:03PM SO IT'S DROPPING.
5:04:04PM AND THE OTHER THING IS, WE'RE FIXING THE HOLES IN OUR PIPES.
5:04:08PM WE HAVE ALL THESE GRAVITY PIPES, 1200 MILES THROUGH TOWN,
5:04:14PM ALL THIS PIPE LINING, AS YOU PUT THE NEW LINER IN THE PIPE,
5:04:17PM YOU HELP STOP THE GROUNDWATER GETTING INTO THE PIPE WHICH
5:04:20PM GOES TO THE PLANT WHICH WE HAVE TO TREAT.
5:04:23PM BELIEVE IT OR NOT, OVER THE LAST 33 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE,
5:04:25PM FLOW TO THE PLANT HAS BEEN THE SAME.
5:04:27PM WE STILL HAVE A TON OF CAPACITY LEFT BETWEEN OUR 60 MILLION
5:04:31PM GALLONS A DAY WE'RE SEEING NOW AND THE 96.
5:04:34PM WE ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS WITH NEW PUMPS AND THINGS LIKE
5:04:37PM THAT WHEN WE REPLACE IT, WE GET MORE HIGHER EFFICIENCY
5:04:41PM EQUIPMENT.
5:04:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: SINCE OTHER PEOPLE TOLD JOKES, WE WON'T TURN
5:04:49PM INTO ANY TILAPIA PLANTS.
5:04:54PM REMEMBER IN ST. PETE, THEY PUT A TILAPIA INCUBATOR AND FOUND
5:04:58PM OUT THEY SHOULDN'T DO THAT.
5:05:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO LAUGH?
5:05:10PM HA HA.
5:05:11PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:05:12PM NEXT UP IS ITEM 78. ABBYE FEELEY, ACROSS FROM HILLSBOROUGH.
5:05:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: I SENT A MEMO OUT SAYING I NEEDED TO BE GONE
5:05:32PM BY A CERTAIN TIME, 35, 40 MINUTES FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING I
5:05:35PM HAVE.
5:05:36PM IF WE GET TO THAT TIME, I HAVE SOME MOTIONS I HAVE TO DO
5:05:39PM TODAY, IF I MAY.
5:05:41PM THANK YOU.
5:05:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HELLO, SIR.
5:05:42PM >>ERIC COTTON: AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M USUALLY VERY BRIEF WHEN
5:05:46PM I'M UP HERE.
5:05:47PM ON JUNE 20, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF, WE WERE AT A WORKSHOP,
5:05:52PM COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE, EVEN THOUGH
5:05:56PM WITH COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THE LIVE LOCAL ACT
5:05:59PM DOES NOT REQUIRE, STRICTLY ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, NO PUBLIC
5:06:02PM INPUT SO TO SPEAK, BUT COUNCIL THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT
5:06:06PM FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF LIVE LOCAL PROJECTS COMING
5:06:09PM THROUGH.
5:06:10PM IN THE BACK OF YOUR MEMO THAT WAS ISSUED, THERE IS A
5:06:14PM SUGGESTED NOTICE LETTER.
5:06:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S MAKE IT BIGGER.
5:06:23PM >>ERIC COTTON: BASICALLY IT'S STATING THAT, HAS APPLICATION
5:06:27PM NUMBER, WHICH AN LND START, BECAUSE IN ACCELA.
5:06:32PM PARCEL ADDRESS.
5:06:34PM THERE IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT COMING THROUGH UNDER
5:06:36PM LIVE LOCAL.
5:06:37PM THIS IS NOTICE THAT THIS EVENT IS TAKING PLACE, BUT THERE IS
5:06:41PM NO PUBLIC INPUT, PER SE.
5:06:44PM NOT GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING.
5:06:46PM THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN A SENSE BY BEING AWARE OF IT,
5:06:50PM BUT THERE IS NO PUBLIC HEARING.
5:06:52PM NO APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL.
5:06:54PM STRICTLY ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.
5:06:57PM IF YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT, YOU CAN GO REACH OUT TO YOUR STATE
5:07:01PM LEGISLATOR ABOUT THE LIVE LOCAL ACT ITSELF AND THE
5:07:05PM PREEMPTION BEING DONE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
5:07:07PM ALONG WITH THAT, COUNCIL ALSO WANTED A SIGN.
5:07:12PM WE DIDN'T PUT UP A SIGN BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPENSIVE JUST TO
5:07:15PM PRINT UP.
5:07:16PM BUT IF COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH THIS KIND OF LANGUAGE, THIS IS
5:07:18PM WHAT WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH.
5:07:19PM THEY WILL BE THE SAME SIZE AS REZONING SIGNS, YELLOW SIGNS.
5:07:24PM THE QR CODE WILL WORK JUST LIKE IT DOES ON THE REZONING,
5:07:27PM VARIANCE SIGNS.
5:07:28PM SCAN THEM, TAKE YOU TO THE MAP AND THEN TAKE YOU TO ACCELA.
5:07:33PM ANY QUESTIONS?
5:07:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER
5:07:38PM CARLSON.
5:07:39PM DO YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF OR COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK?
5:07:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD YOU PUT THAT SIGN BACK?
5:07:45PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS.
5:07:46PM I ESPECIALLY LOVE THE CLICK OR THE CONNECTION TO YOUR
5:07:50PM LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVE BECAUSE THAT'S TRUE.
5:07:53PM THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN GO.
5:07:54PM SO I THINK THAT'S VERY CREATIVE AND I LIKE THAT.
5:07:59PM GREAT JOB, LEGAL.
5:08:04PM BUT ALSO, THIS IS GREAT.
5:08:07PM THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT IT SAYS LIVE LOCAL,
5:08:14PM BUT THIS NOTICE DOES NOT CREATE OR RESULT IN A RIGHT TO
5:08:16PM PARTICIPATE IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, WHICH DOES NOT
5:08:19PM REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.
5:08:21PM MAYBE ADDING SCAN ME.
5:08:26PM I KNOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SCAN FOR MORE INFORMATION, BUT IT
5:08:30PM KIND OF LEAVES THE READER SORT OF QUESTIONING, WELL, WHAT
5:08:34PM DOES THAT MEAN?
5:08:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT LIKE FOR MORE INFORMATION, SCAN THE
5:08:38PM QR CODE.
5:08:39PM >>ERIC COTTON: LIKE OVER HERE.
5:08:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
5:08:42PM YOU WOULD NORMALLY THINK PEOPLE WITH GO TO THE SCAN BUT I
5:08:45PM THINK MAYBE ADDING THAT LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT JUST STOPS SO
5:08:50PM ABRUPTLY.
5:08:52PM NORMALLY IT GIVES CITY HALL'S ADDRESS AND LIKE WHAT YOU CAN
5:08:56PM DO.
5:08:57PM >>ERIC COTTON: HAVE THE SCAN THING.
5:08:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
5:09:01PM MOVING THE SCAN ME.
5:09:02PM THAT'S PERFECT.
5:09:03PM >>ERIC COTTON: IT WILL LOOK MUCH NEATER THAN THAT, TOO.
5:09:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE IT.
5:09:07PM THANK YOU.
5:09:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
5:09:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT ADDING THE WORD
5:09:13PM PREEMPTION TO THE TITLE?
5:09:14PM STATE LIVE LOCAL ACT PREEMPTION?
5:09:17PM AND/OR PUT IT IN THE SENTENCE BELOW.
5:09:23PM I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREEMPTION ENOUGH, A LOT OF THE
5:09:26PM RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND IT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR THAT WE
5:09:30PM DON'T HAVE ANY.
5:09:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS DEVELOPMENT IS DUE TO STATE
5:09:33PM PREEMPTION.
5:09:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS NOTICE DOES NOT CREATE OR RESULT IN A
5:09:40PM -- [INAUDIBLE]
5:09:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
5:09:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: OR DUE TO A STATE LEGISLATIVE PREEMPTION.
5:09:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BLATANTLY SAYING YOU CAN'T PARTICIPATE,
5:09:51PM TOO BAD, BECAUSE THEY WILL YELL AT US.
5:09:55PM AT LEAST CLARIFY, DUE TO STATE PREEMPTION BY -- YOU KNOW,
5:10:00PM LEGISLATIVE STATE PREEMPTION.
5:10:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I COULD MAKE ONE SUGGESTION, MS. POYNOR
5:10:04PM JUST RAISED TO ME.
5:10:05PM ALL OF OUR SIGNS THAT WE JUST RE-DID COLLECTIVELY IN
5:10:09PM PARTNERSHIP ARE YELLOW.
5:10:11PM THEY DO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
5:10:13PM SO MAYBE IN THIS CASE WE SHOULDN'T USE YELLOW.
5:10:18PM MAYBE WE SHOULD USE SOMETHING ELSE SO THAT THERE ISN'T THAT
5:10:22PM SAME ASSOCIATION WITH THE VARIANCES AND SPECIAL USES AND
5:10:24PM SOMETHING ELSE.
5:10:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT COLORS ARE AVAILABLE?
5:10:29PM ALL OF THEM CURRENTLY YELLOW?
5:10:32PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ALL OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING LAND DECISIONS
5:10:34PM ARE.
5:10:35PM >>ERIC COTTON: WE CAN MAKE THEM SLIME GREEN.
5:10:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT SHOULD BE THE OFFICIAL COLOR.
5:10:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT WHATEVER IS CHEAPEST?
5:10:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DON'T THINK THE COST IS ASSOCIATED WITH
5:10:51PM THE COLOR.
5:10:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY'LL GET ATTENTION AND PEOPLE WILL BE
5:10:53PM ABLE TO SEE THEM AT NIGHT AND NOTICE THEM WHEN THEY DRIVE
5:10:57PM BY.
5:10:57PM YEAH.
5:10:58PM GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT STUFF BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO
5:11:01PM GET -- SIGNS GET LOST AND FALL OVER, LIME GREEN AND NEON
5:11:06PM GREEN.
5:11:06PM YOU SEE THEM.
5:11:07PM >>ERIC COTTON: OKAY.
5:11:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
5:11:10PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:11:10PM >>ERIC COTTON: YOU'RE WELCOME.
5:11:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE MEMO INDICATED THAT WE HAVE UPDATED THE
5:11:27PM LIVE LUCKILY MEMO THAT IS ON OUR WEBSITE.
5:11:29PM WE ALSO UPDATED THE WEBSITE TO NOW HAVE PROJECTS THAT
5:11:32PM RECEIVED APPROVAL ON IT, SO THOSE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE OWED
5:11:37PM YOU A STATUS ON WERE PROVIDED IN THAT MEMORANDUM.
5:11:39PM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.
5:11:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:11:44PM ITEM 79, MR. VASKE, YES, SIR.
5:11:46PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
5:11:49PM ITEM 79.
5:11:50PM ON JUNE 27, 2024, CITY COUNCIL MADE THE FOLLOWING MOTION
5:11:54PM WHICH WAS THAT STAFF BE REQUESTED TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION TO
5:11:58PM SET CITY COUNCIL SALARY AT 75,190 BEGINNING ON OCTOBER 1,
5:12:04PM 2024, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 AND INCLUDE AN ANNUAL INCREASE
5:12:09PM BASED ON THE ATU NEGOTIATED INCREASE.
5:12:12PM FURTHER, THAT SAID SALARY ONLY BE SET FOR THE DURATION OF
5:12:15PM THE CURRENT ELECTION TERM.
5:12:17PM NOW, I PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL WITH A RESOLUTION THAT SETS THE
5:12:21PM ANNUAL SALARY OF EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CITY
5:12:24PM COUNCIL TO 75,190 EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1, 2024.
5:12:30PM AND AUTHORIZES AN ANNUAL INCREASE IN SALARY BASED ON THE
5:12:33PM SAME ANNUAL INCREASE NEGOTIATED BY THE ATU BEGINNING ON
5:12:38PM OCTOBER 1, 2025.
5:12:39PM THAT IS ALL.
5:12:40PM HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
5:12:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE ATU
5:12:44PM LANGUAGE THERE.
5:12:45PM I'M CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE OR APPEAR OR BE A
5:12:49PM CONFLICT OF INTEREST SINCE WE AS A BODY VOTE TO APPROVE
5:12:52PM THOSE CONTRACTS OR VOTE ON THOSE CONTRACTS.
5:12:56PM AND IN LOOKING AT THAT, ISN'T THE STANDARD COST-OF-LIVING
5:13:01PM ADJUSTMENT NO MORE THAN 3%?
5:13:05PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: CURRENTLY THE STANDARD COST-OF-LIVING
5:13:07PM ADJUSTMENT FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IS BASED ON THE
5:13:10PM MANAGERIAL CLASS EMPLOYEES WITH A CAP OF 3%.
5:13:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
5:13:15PM WHY CAN'T WE USE THAT AND WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE TIED TO THE
5:13:20PM ATU?
5:13:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE REASON I RECOMMENDED IT GO TO THE ATU IS
5:13:24PM BECAUSE OUR STAFF WAS ABLE TO GET A GIANT COST-OF-LIVING
5:13:28PM ADJUSTMENT IN THE LAST CONTRACT BECAUSE WE HAD SUCH GREAT
5:13:33PM INFLATION.
5:13:35PM SO WE PROVIDED FOR THEM TO HAVE THIS.
5:13:38PM AND THE ISSUE WAS -- THE ISSUE IS, RATHER, THAT IT IS SO LOW
5:13:44PM BECAUSE WE'RE STUCK WITH THAT 3%.
5:13:46PM WHEREAS IF WE'RE TYING IT TO ATU, AND MR. VASKE AND
5:13:51PM MS. ZELMAN BROUGHT THE SAME CONCERN TO ME.
5:13:53PM I DO BELIEVE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT DURING THE WORKSHOP.
5:13:56PM WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING.
5:13:57PM BUT THE REASON I DECIDED TO TIE IT TO THIS, WE DON'T
5:14:00PM NEGOTIATE THE ATU CONTRACT.
5:14:01PM IN FACT, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO NEGOTIATE.
5:14:05PM AND THE REASON I CHOSE THE ATU CONTRACT BECAUSE THAT IS OUR
5:14:09PM EVERYDAY EMPLOYEE.
5:14:10PM WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY MORE THAN OUR EVERYDAY EMPLOYEE
5:14:14PM GETS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE INFLATION WE JUST HAD, THAT FIRST
5:14:18PM RAISE WAS A 9% RAISE.
5:14:20PM THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN US MULTIPLE YEARS, AND THAT'S THREE
5:14:25PM YEARS, BUT NOT THREE YEARS, BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING THAT
5:14:29PM SAME.
5:14:29PM THAT IS WHY I DID IT.
5:14:31PM I BELIEVE WHATEVER THE GENERAL EMPLOYEE GETS, WE SHOULD BE
5:14:35PM FOLLOWING THEM.
5:14:36PM YES, I DO AGREE, BUT I THINK BY AND LARGE WE SUPPORT OUR
5:14:41PM EMPLOYEES.
5:14:42PM WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS HAD THE SAME AGREEMENT BETWEEN POLICE,
5:14:46PM FIRE, AND ATU, BUT THE LAST SEVERAL COUNCILS HAVE BEEN VERY
5:14:50PM STRONG WITH THAT.
5:14:51PM I BELIEVE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD GET THE SAME RATE
5:14:53PM THAT THEY GET.
5:14:55PM NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
5:14:57PM I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE GOING FORWARD BEING ABLE TO MAKE
5:15:00PM SURE THAT OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOT UNDER THIS
5:15:06PM RECEIVE THAT SAME CONSIDERATION.
5:15:07PM AND THAT'S THE REASON I DID IT.
5:15:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I UNDERSTAND IT.
5:15:11PM ANOTHER THING IS, WE TALK ABOUT THIS SALARY.
5:15:13PM WE'RE AT 54 RIGHT NOW.
5:15:15PM OUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THEM, BUT
5:15:18PM SOME OF THEM FLOAT AROUND HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.
5:15:21PM 95, 96.
5:15:23PM HUNDRED.
5:15:23PM THIS IS PUBLIC RECORD SO I'M NOT DIVULGING INFORMATION.
5:15:26PM THE MAYOR IS FLOATING UNDER 200, LIKE 180 SOMETHING.
5:15:29PM I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW CORRECTLY TODAY BUT THE CHIEF OF STAFF
5:15:32PM IS AT A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
5:15:33PM MAYBE I READ IT WRONG.
5:15:35PM PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE
5:15:39PM THE MEDIA ISN'T -- WE DON'T GO INTO ALL THE SALARIES.
5:15:43PM JUST TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE, WHERE WE'RE AT AS A CITY
5:15:49PM COUNCIL.
5:15:50PM WHO ELSE HAD THEIR MIKE ON?
5:15:51PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON?
5:15:52PM ANYBODY ELSE?
5:15:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
5:16:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION.
5:16:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TURN THAT MIKE ON.
5:16:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, HURTAK.
5:16:08PM I KNOW YOU WAS GOING TO GET ME ON THAT.
5:16:10PM WHAT NUMBER?
5:16:13PM 79?
5:16:14PM HERE IT IS.
5:16:15PM I WANT TO SAY I MOVE FILE CM 24-7880, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
5:16:21PM THE ANNUAL SALARY OF $75,190 FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF
5:16:26PM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1, 2024, AND
5:16:30PM AUTHORIZING A GENERAL FUND SALARY INCREASE EFFECTIVE ON
5:16:34PM OCTOBER 1, 2025, RESCINDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 98-1477 AND
5:16:41PM 2005-633, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
5:16:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
5:16:48PM CLENDENIN AND DISCUSSION.
5:16:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE AGAIN ON THIS.
5:16:52PM I HAD DONE A MOTION SOME TIME AGO, MAYBE TWO, THREE MONTHS
5:16:57PM AGO TO HAVE A SALARY SIMILAR TO THIS TO TAKE PLACE AFTER
5:17:01PM 2027.
5:17:01PM MY POSITION ON THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY CLEAR.
5:17:04PM I WANT TO READ, IF I MAY, 27th AMENDMENT TO THE
5:17:07PM CONSTITUTION HAS A VERY INTERESTING HISTORY.
5:17:09PM IT WAS PASSED.
5:17:10PM THE LAST AMENDMENT THAT WAS PASSED, ORIGINALLY WRITTEN BY
5:17:13PM AND SUPPORTED BY SOME OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, INCLUDING
5:17:16PM JAMES MADISON AND THEN IT WASN'T PASSED UNTIL I THINK '91,
5:17:20PM '92.
5:17:21PM IT SAYS NO LAW VARYING THE COMPENSATION FOR THE SERVICES AND
5:17:25PM REPRESENTATIVES SHALL TAKE EFFECTIVE AFTER ELECTION,
5:17:29PM REPRESENTATIVES INTERVENED.
5:17:30PM THEREFORE WHAT I'VE ALWAYS SAID IS THAT WE SHOULD -- I WANT
5:17:33PM TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THE TIMELINE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S
5:17:36PM CONFUSION IN TERMS OF MY POSITION, IS TO SUPPORT A PAY
5:17:39PM RAISE, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, VOTE, HAVE AN ELECTION, THEN
5:17:43PM GET THE BENEFIT OF IT.
5:17:44PM OTHER THAN THE ONE I PROPOSED, WHICH AGAIN I THINK THAT
5:17:48PM TALKING ABOUT A HIGHER SALARY IS SOMETHING VERY REASONABLE,
5:17:51PM IF NOT NECESSARY, VERY NECESSARY, IN FACT.
5:17:54PM NO OTHER PROPOSAL HAS EVER HAD THAT, HAS EVER SAID THAT
5:17:59PM WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION TO GET THE
5:18:01PM BENEFIT.
5:18:01PM AGAIN, TO BE CLEAR, YOU VOTE ON IT, YOU VOTE YES, YOU GO
5:18:05PM FORWARD.
5:18:06PM IT PASSES.
5:18:06PM IF IT PASSES, YOU HAVE AN ELECTION, THEN YOU GET THE BENEFIT
5:18:10PM OF IT.
5:18:10PM THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY POSITION IN THAT REGARD.
5:18:14PM AGAIN, THE CONVERSATION ON HAVING A HIGHER TAMPA CITY
5:18:18PM COUNCIL SALARY IS ONE THAT I SUPPORT.
5:18:20PM THAT'S WHY I DID THAT MOTION, TO HAVE US HAVE ABOUT 75, 76
5:18:24PM THOUSAND DOLLAR SALARY WITH INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS FROM 24 TO
5:18:28PM 27 WHEN THAT WOULD TAKE EFFECT IN 2027 BECAUSE WE DO NEED A
5:18:34PM HIGHER TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SALARY.
5:18:37PM WHEN PEOPLE SAY THIS ISN'T ABOUT US, IT'S ABOUT NEXT
5:18:40PM COUNCIL, I TAKE THAT LITERALLY IN EVERYTHING.
5:18:42PM AGAIN, I KNOW I'M IN THE MINORITY OF THIS AND I RESPECT
5:18:45PM EVERYBODY'S OPINIONS BUT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN MY POSITION.
5:18:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:18:49PM THE THING IS --
5:18:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS THE NEXT COUNCIL.
5:18:53PM YEAH, IT IS, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS
5:18:56PM BEFORE WHEN I WAS JUST SITTING AT HOME LISTENING, YOU ALL
5:19:00PM SAID THAT FOR THE NEXT ELECTION AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT.
5:19:03PM I DIDN'T SEE ANYONE MOVE THE MOTION FOR IT TO BE FOR THE
5:19:08PM ELECTION IN WHICH I PARTICIPATED IN.
5:19:10PM DID ANYONE DO THAT?
5:19:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I EXPLAIN?
5:19:14PM AGAIN, MY POSITION IS -- NO, NO.
5:19:17PM I THINK THERE'S CONFUSION HERE.
5:19:19PM YOU PASS IT.
5:19:20PM YOU DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF IT UNTIL AFTER AN ELECTION.
5:19:24PM THE ONES THAT I VOTED AGAINST WERE TO TAKE PLACE AND TAKE
5:19:28PM EFFECT IMMEDIATELY WHICH IS WHY I VOTED AGAINST IT.
5:19:30PM I PROPOSED ONE THAT WOULD TAKE EFFECT AFTER THE ELECTION.
5:19:39PM '27.
5:19:40PM AGAIN, I RESPECT THAT.
5:19:42PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY POSITION IS PATTERNED AFTER WHAT
5:19:44PM THE 27th AMENDMENT SAYS FOR CONGRESS.
5:19:47PM PEOPLE DISAGREE.
5:19:48PM THAT'S COOL, MAN.
5:19:49PM NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
5:19:51PM THANK YOU.
5:19:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M GOOD.
5:19:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
5:19:53PM WE HAVE A SECOND.
5:19:54PM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
5:19:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
5:19:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:20:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
5:20:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
5:20:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
5:20:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
5:20:06PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND VIERA VOTING NO
5:20:10PM AND MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
5:20:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
5:20:15PM ACKNOWLEDGE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY JUSTIN VASKE FOR HIS
5:20:18PM WORK ON THIS.
5:20:19PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:20:19PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: YOU'RE WELCOME.
5:20:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
5:20:22PM WE'LL GO TO NEW BUSINESS, INFORMATION REPORTS.
5:20:25PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:20:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
5:20:28PM WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT.
5:20:29PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS.
5:20:31PM FIRST I WANTED TO UPDATE EVERYBODY ON SOMETHING, THE RACIAL
5:20:34PM RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
5:20:36PM THIS ISN'T PART OF A MOTION, BUT WE ARE GETTING DATES.
5:20:41PM WE HAVE THE FACILITATOR.
5:20:42PM MY OFFICE, AGAIN, I REALLY WANT TO GIVE PUBLIC CREDIT TO MY
5:20:46PM FRIEND AND LEGISLATIVE AIDE WHO I CARE FOR SO MUCH AND THE
5:20:50PM HARD WORK SHE'S DONE.
5:20:51PM MR. SHELBY, WHO I ALSO CARE FOR A LOT AND THE HARD WORK HE'S
5:20:55PM DONE AND MANY OTHERS IN GETTING THIS DONE.
5:20:57PM WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING OUR FIRST MEETING.
5:20:59PM WE'RE TALKING TO THE BOARD MEMBERS PROSPECTIVELY IN LATE
5:21:04PM SEPTEMBER.
5:21:05PM IT HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT.
5:21:06PM WE'RE ALSO GETTING SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND EVERYTHING FOR
5:21:09PM DIFFERENT FIELDS.
5:21:11PM SO ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT, ET CETERA, PLEASE LET US
5:21:16PM KNOW BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE THIS AS WONDERFUL AS POSSIBLE.
5:21:19PM I'VE GONE THROUGH THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE GONE TO GO
5:21:22PM TO THE COMMUNITY AND TALK ABOUT THIS.
5:21:23PM I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
5:21:25PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, SOME OF THE ISSUES YOU TALKED ABOUT
5:21:27PM BEFORE, I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP US, GOD
5:21:31PM WILLING, MAKE PROGRESS ON THIS.
5:21:33PM SO WE'VE BEEN GLAD TO WORK ON THAT.
5:21:35PM FIRST, IF I MAY --
5:21:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
5:21:40PM THIS IS SOMETHING I DO WITH EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT I
5:21:43PM NOMINATE AND APPOINT TO SOMETHING IS THAT I DO A MONTHLY
5:21:47PM MEETING WITH THEM.
5:21:48PM SO I RECOMMEND THAT THIS COUNCIL PARTICIPATE FULLY IN THAT
5:21:54PM PROCESS BY TALKING WITH THE PERSON THEY NOMINATED AND
5:21:56PM APPOINTED TO THE BOARD SO THAT -- WELL, SO THEY CAN'T COME
5:22:02PM BACK AND SAY, OH, WELL, WE DID THIS AND WE'RE UP HERE AND
5:22:06PM DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
5:22:08PM THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE OWE IT TO THE
5:22:10PM COMMUNITY TO BE ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS BY LISTENING TO OUR
5:22:14PM APPOINTEES AND SHARING THOUGHTS AND IDEAS WITH THEM, SO THAT
5:22:18PM THIS BECOMES A COHESIVE -- YEAH, SO WHEN THEY COME FORWARD
5:22:23PM WITH RESOLUTIONS AND MOTIONS, WE ARE READY AND ABLE TO MOVE
5:22:29PM THOSE FORWARD.
5:22:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE, MA'AM.
5:22:33PM THANK YOU.
5:22:34PM I HAVE A FEW MOTIONS.
5:22:36PM FIRST OFF, ON CIT, I MOTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO REPORT
5:22:41PM TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO REPORT
5:22:43PM TO THE PUBLIC ON WHAT WE ARE DOING TO SUPPORT PASSAGE OF THE
5:22:48PM CIT.
5:22:49PM I'M LOOKING AT EITHER SEPTEMBER 19 OR 2026.
5:22:53PM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ORGANIZED EFFORTS THAT ARE BEING DONE.
5:22:56PM CIT IS SO PIVOTAL TO THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.
5:22:59PM IT IS SO PIVOTAL AND WE ARE TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM THE
5:23:02PM ELECTION.
5:23:03PM AND WE REALLY NEED TO, ALL OF US WHO SUPPORT IT, I KNOW
5:23:08PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WHO IS NOT HERE INDICATED I BELIEVE THAT
5:23:11PM HE DOESN'T SUPPORT IT.
5:23:13PM THAT'S FINE.
5:23:14PM THOSE OF US THAT HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT THAT WERE OUT THERE
5:23:16PM TALKING, IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY.
5:23:18PM TALK TO OUR FRIENDS IN PLANT CITY, TEMPLE TERRACE, EAST
5:23:25PM COUNTY, TOWN N' COUNTRY, ET CETERA, ON THIS, SO THAT'S WHAT
5:23:26PM I WANT US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT WE'RE DOING TO
5:23:29PM PROMOTE THE CIT.
5:23:32PM IF WE DON'T PASS THIS, WE ARE IN A LOT OF HURT.
5:23:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE YOU SAID 2026.
5:23:39PM I'M CONFUSED.
5:23:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: DID I?
5:23:40PM SO SORRY.
5:23:42PM 24.
5:23:43PM THAT IT'S COMING UP IN 2024.
5:23:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
5:23:47PM CARLSON.
5:23:48PM I WILL TELL EVERYBODY THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT I TELL PEOPLE.
5:23:51PM THIS IS MAKE OR BREAK.
5:23:52PM IF THE CIT DOESN'T PASS, I FEEL BAD FOR THE NEXT MAYOR AND
5:23:55PM THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL.
5:23:56PM WE TALK ABOUT BONDING NOW.
5:23:58PM WE TALK ABOUT A MILLAGE INCREASE LAST YEAR.
5:24:01PM THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS.
5:24:03PM THIS IS CRITICAL, AND IT'S A 15-YEAR RENEWAL OF WHAT IS
5:24:08PM EXISTING.
5:24:10PM IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
5:24:11PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
5:24:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE
5:24:18PM INFORMATION PRESENTED.
5:24:19PM I WOULD CAUTION EVERYBODY ABOUT BEING TOO CLOSELY CONNECTED
5:24:23PM TO THIS AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
5:24:26PM I CAN GO BACK THROUGH THE DATA WITH YOU, BUT AT LEAST THREE
5:24:30PM OF THE FOUR CAMPAIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN RUN IN HILLSBOROUGH
5:24:33PM COUNTY LOST IN PART BECAUSE OF THEIR CLOSE CONNECTION WITH
5:24:37PM CERTAIN ELECTED OFFICIALS.
5:24:39PM WE WANT TO MAKE IT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, NOT ABOUT ELECTED
5:24:43PM OFFICIALS.
5:24:44PM IT CAN'T BE, SOME PEOPLE SAY, OH, WELL, THE MAYOR NEEDS TO
5:24:47PM STAND UP OR THIS PERSON, THAT HAS WORKED AGAINST THESE IN
5:24:50PM THE PAST.
5:24:52PM THINK ABOUT IF YOU GOT 80% OF THE VOTE, STILL 20% OF THE
5:24:57PM PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR YOU.
5:24:59PM SO WE NEED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY,
5:25:02PM BUT IF WE ARE TOO CLOSELY BRANDED WITH IT, IT COULD TURN A
5:25:06PM LOT OF PEOPLE OFF.
5:25:07PM I WOULD ENCOURAGE US ALL TO BE CAREFUL.
5:25:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND HENDERSON.
5:25:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KIND OF AGREE -- PUTTING MY POLITICAL
5:25:16PM HAT ON AND EXPERIENCE IN THESE THINGS.
5:25:19PM I THINK THE BEST CONTRIBUTION WE ALL CAN MAKE AS INDIVIDUALS
5:25:21PM AND PEOPLE INVESTED IN THE COMMUNICATION IS HELPING THE
5:25:25PM ORGANIZATIONS FIGHTING FOR THIS TO RAISE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO
5:25:28PM COMMUNICATE.
5:25:29PM IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT AND HELP THEM RAISE
5:25:31PM MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, I THINK AS FAR AS MOVING THE
5:25:34PM INITIATIVE FORWARD, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST TACT TO
5:25:38PM TAKE IS FUND-RAISING FOR COMMUNICATION.
5:25:42PM THOSE TOOLS AND OPPORTUNITIES.
5:25:43PM IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A STIGMA ATTACHING THE PERSONAL
5:25:50PM POLITICS AND STUFF TO AN ISSUE THAT TRANSCENDS POLITICS.
5:25:54PM WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS AND HOW HORRIBLE IT WILL BE
5:25:57PM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IF THIS DOES
5:25:59PM NOT PASS.
5:26:00PM BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE PERSONALLY EITHER WEIGH
5:26:04PM IN ON THAT OR NOT.
5:26:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW MUCH MONEY IS THIS AGAIN?
5:26:08PM HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS?
5:26:10PM WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IT'S BEEN EXISTING FOR, WHAT,
5:26:15PM ALMOST 30 YEARS.
5:26:17PM THE PART THAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT IT IS THE FACT WE SHOULD NOT
5:26:19PM HAVE A SUCCESSION PLAN TO TALK ABOUT GETTING OFF OF IT.
5:26:22PM IT'S GOING TO BE ENDING.
5:26:23PM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
5:26:25PM NOW THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS ASKING FOR A
5:26:28PM MILLAGE INCREASE TO PAY TEACHERS, THIS IS A STRUGGLE FOR ME
5:26:33PM AS A COUNCIL MEMBER KNOWING THAT OUR TEACHERS ARE UNDERPAID,
5:26:36PM WE OPENED THE SCHOOL YEAR.
5:26:38PM THERE ARE A THOUSAND TEACHERS THAT ARE NEEDED.
5:26:40PM AND EVERY SURROUNDING COUNTY IS PAYING THEIR TEACHERS A LOT
5:26:43PM HIGHER.
5:26:44PM IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO BE IN THIS POSITION WHERE I HEAR
5:26:50PM COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING, OH, WE REALLY NEED IT OR IT'S GOING
5:26:53PM TO BREAK US.
5:26:54PM THAT MAKES ME FEEL BAD BUT TEACHERS ALSO NEED TO BE PAID.
5:26:57PM AND THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME FEEL BAD BECAUSE THEY ARE
5:27:01PM UNDERPAID.
5:27:02PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT IT.
5:27:05PM I UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED THE MONEY.
5:27:07PM I REALLY DO.
5:27:08PM I JUST HATE THAT WE ARE IN THIS POSITION.
5:27:11PM TO HAVE TO VOTE ON TWO THINGS ASKING THE PUBLIC TO SUPPORT
5:27:21PM US TO KEEP US GOING.
5:27:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK YOU RAISE A FABULOUS POINT.
5:27:25PM ALWAYS SUPPORT TEACHERS.
5:27:27PM PERSONALLY, I WILL VOTE FOR BOTH OF THE MEASURES BECAUSE I
5:27:30PM SEE WHAT TAX DOLLARS DO.
5:27:31PM I SEE CLEARLY WHAT MY TAX DOLLARS DO.
5:27:34PM I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO SUPPORT EDUCATION AS A FORMER EDUCATOR
5:27:40PM MYSELF AND BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
5:27:42PM THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THAT THIS EDUCATION CAMPAIGN FOR THE
5:27:49PM RENEWAL OF THE CIT NEEDS TO DO, THIS IS NOT CHANGING.
5:27:53PM THE ONLY REAL THING ON THE BALLOT IS THE INCREASE FOR
5:27:57PM TEACHERS.
5:27:58PM THE OTHER ONE IS JUST MAINTAINING.
5:28:00PM I DO HOPE THAT WHEN THIS COMES BEFORE US, THAT WE HEAR SOME
5:28:04PM OF THE STRATEGIES WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN BOTH
5:28:08PM THINGS TREMENDOUSLY, AND I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC DOES TOO.
5:28:13PM IF THE PUBLIC JUST KNOWS WELL, NO CIT, NO EXTRA FIREFIGHTERS
5:28:18PM OR POLICE OFFICERS OR ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE NEED FOR OUR
5:28:22PM COMMUNITY, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
5:28:25PM I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING HOW THE PLAN IS COMING
5:28:29PM FORWARD FOR BOTH.
5:28:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
5:28:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
5:28:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
5:28:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE IN BOTH STRONGLY AND I HAVE
5:28:46PM ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH SUPPORTING OUR EDUCATORS AND
5:28:50PM SUPPORTING OUR FUTURE.
5:28:52PM AS DOES SUPPORTING OUR TRANSIT AND PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS THAT
5:28:58PM WE GET FROM THIS.
5:28:59PM PUBLIC SAFETY.
5:29:00PM PUBLIC SAFETY.
5:29:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
5:29:09PM BEING AROUND ALL THESE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, I THINK THE
5:29:12PM REASON IT DIDN'T COME UP UNTIL NOW IS BECAUSE OF ALL FOR
5:29:16PM TRANSPORTATION.
5:29:17PM IF IT HAD PASSED THE FIRST TIME, THIS PROBABLY WOULD HAVE
5:29:20PM BEEN BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
5:29:22PM BECAUSE THEY MADE A SECOND GO ON IT, IT DELAYED IT.
5:29:26PM BUT WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, NOT VERY MUCH.
5:29:29PM HOPEFULLY IT WILL JUST PASS.
5:29:30PM BUT THE OTHER THING IS I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT THE
5:29:35PM CITY CANNOT USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO SAY VOTE YES.
5:29:39PM ALL THEY CAN DO IS EDUCATE.
5:29:42PM I'VE NEVER BEEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ON ONE OF THESE BEFORE.
5:29:45PM MARTY, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE OUR CITY E-MAILS OR
5:29:48PM RESOURCES AT ALL TO SAY YES, BUT WE PRIVATELY IN A --
5:29:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU MADE A MOTION.
5:29:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THING I WAS GOING TO SAY, TOO, THAT
5:30:00PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTIONED USING US INDIVIDUALLY, I WOULD
5:30:03PM ALSO ENCOURAGE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL REGISTERED TO A PARTICULAR
5:30:07PM POLITICAL PARTY FOR US TO ALSO WORK PUBLICLY WITH PEOPLE
5:30:10PM REGISTERED TO THE OTHER REGISTERED POLITICAL PARTY BECAUSE
5:30:13PM PEOPLE HAVE TO HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES.
5:30:15PM IT'S NOT A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN ISSUE.
5:30:17PM I'M DOING THAT.
5:30:17PM AGAIN, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, I SUPPORT BOTH, FOR THE
5:30:20PM RECORD.
5:30:20PM I'M GLAD TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN.
5:30:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEING LOGICAL ABOUT REACHING ACROSS THE
5:30:30PM AISLES.
5:30:31PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK,
5:30:34PM CORRECT?
5:30:34PM CARLSON.
5:30:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:30:36PM AYE.
5:30:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN WE DO SEPTEMBER 19?
5:30:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
5:30:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [INAUDIBLE]
5:30:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL GOOD.
5:30:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
5:30:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: A VERBAL REPORT.
5:30:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
5:30:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:30:58PM AYE.
5:30:58PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:30:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A COUPLE MORE.
5:31:01PM I WAS REQUESTED BY ADVOCATES WITH PEPIN ACADEMIES WHO WERE
5:31:04PM HERE, A REQUEST MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO WORK WITH FORMER
5:31:07PM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER LISA BUNT.
5:31:09PM SOME OF US MAY REMEMBER HER.
5:31:10PM WONDERFUL WOMAN.
5:31:11PM PEPIN ACADEMIES AND RELEVANT JURISDICTIONS ON ESTABLISHING A
5:31:14PM SCHOOL ZONE IN FRONT OF PEPIN ACADEMIES AS WELL AS PAINTING
5:31:17PM AND POSTING SIGNS THAT SAY DO NOT BLOCK INTERSECTION ALONG
5:31:20PM 40th STREET AND THAT STAFF REPORT BACK ON THESE REQUESTS
5:31:23PM AT DECEMBER 19.
5:31:25PM WE'VE HAD A LOT OF REQUESTS FROM FOLKS AT PEPINS, PARENTS
5:31:31PM RAISING KIDS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
5:31:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW DO THEY NOT HAVE A SCHOOL ZONE
5:31:35PM ALREADY?
5:31:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE TRAFFIC THERE IS UNREAL.
5:31:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW.
5:31:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
5:31:41PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:31:41PM AYE.
5:31:42PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:31:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ALL MAY HAVE HEARD THAT TRINITY CAFE ON
5:31:50PM BUSCH BOULEVARD APPEARS TO BE CLOSING, WHICH IS AWFUL.
5:31:53PM THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS ON THAT.
5:31:56PM I WANTED STAFF TO REPORT ON WHAT CITY STAFF IS DOING FOR A
5:31:59PM NUMBER OF ISSUES, BUT I'LL HIGHLIGHT TWO OF THEM, WHICH IS
5:32:03PM NUMBER ONE AND SULING JUST FOR PURPOSES OF SUMMARY, FOR THE
5:32:07PM WELL-BEING OF CLIENTS AND THEN NUMBER TWO, FOR MOBILITY AND
5:32:13PM CLIENTS AND WALKING ON BUSCH BOULEVARD TO GO TO OTHER SITES
5:32:16PM FOR FEEDING.
5:32:17PM I WANT THAT TO BE -- I DIDN'T PUT A DATE.
5:32:23PM THAT'S FUNNY.
5:32:23PM SORRY, COUNCIL.
5:32:26PM LET'S SAY JANUARY 9.
5:32:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER.
5:32:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA ACTUALLY, WE SHOULD DO THAT SOONER.
5:32:34PM >> WHEN DO THEY CLOSE?
5:32:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: DECEMBER 5th I THINK.
5:32:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE YOU ASKING JUST OUR STAFF OR ARE YOU ALSO
5:32:42PM ASKING FEEDING TAMPA BAY TO COME AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR
5:32:45PM STRATEGIES ARE?
5:32:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO ASK THEM BEFORE I MOTION FOR THAT.
5:32:48PM I PROBABLY WILL AMEND IT.
5:32:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS THINKING I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN --
5:32:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO PLANT THE SEED AND THEN REACH OUT.
5:32:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:32:59PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:33:00PM AYE.
5:33:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:33:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN I ALSO MENTION THE REPORT TODAY FROM
5:33:07PM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE ON THE STATION 24 FLEET MAINTENANCE REAL
5:33:12PM ESTATE, K-BAR RANCH AND DOWNTOWN TAMPA, I WANT TO HAVE AN
5:33:16PM UPDATED REPORT ON THAT.
5:33:18PM GOSH, WHERE DID I WRITE THIS DOWN?
5:33:20PM I'M SORRY.
5:33:21PM FEBRUARY 6 OF 2025.
5:33:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOW.
5:33:25PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
5:33:27PM HURTAK.
5:33:28PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:33:28PM AYE.
5:33:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:33:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK THAT'S IT.
5:33:31PM I WORKED ON A BUNCH OF STUFF.
5:33:33PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
5:33:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
5:33:36PM DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS, MA'AM?
5:33:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
5:33:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, ANYTHING?
5:33:43PM NO.
5:33:44PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN?
5:33:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO DRAFT AN
5:33:49PM ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE FAIR MARKET APPRAISAL BE
5:33:53PM COMPLETED OF ANY PROPERTY PROPOSED TO BE SOLD OR
5:33:56PM TRANSFERRED.
5:33:57PM THAT ORDINANCE SHOULD BE INCLUDED -- ORDINANCE SHOULD ALSO
5:34:00PM INCLUDE THAT THE APPRAISAL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL
5:34:03PM PRIOR TO THE VOTE TO SELL OR TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY.
5:34:06PM I WOULD LIKE THAT BY NOVEMBER 21st AND SOME BACKGROUND.
5:34:10PM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IN PREVIOUS COUNCIL, LISA MONTELIONE
5:34:14PM WHO USED TO SERVE ON THE COUNCIL, HAD THIS AS A MOTION OR
5:34:18PM INSTRUCTION BUT IT GOT LOST IN THE FORGOTTEN WORLD.
5:34:22PM SO THEY USED TO DO THIS.
5:34:24PM THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING IT FORWARD AS AN ORDINANCE SO IT'S
5:34:28PM INSTITUTIONALIZED AND STAYS FOREVER.
5:34:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND.
5:34:32PM FOR THE RECORD, LISA MONTELIONE WAS THE HARDEST WORKING CITY
5:34:36PM COUNCIL MEMBER I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.
5:34:40PM SHE'S FROM UP NORTH.
5:34:42PM WE HAVE VERY HARDWORKING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BUT MONTELIONE
5:34:46PM WAS FANTASTIC.
5:34:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:34:47PM AYE.
5:34:48PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:34:48PM ANYTHING ELSE?
5:34:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S IT.
5:34:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:34:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:34:53PM I TALKED ABOUT THIS AT A PRIOR MEETING, BUT IT WAS NOT
5:34:56PM TALKED ABOUT IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP ON TUESDAY BECAUSE I
5:34:59PM DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION.
5:35:00PM SO I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF PREPARE A GRAPHIC AND PRESENT IT AT
5:35:03PM THE SEPTEMBER 17 FINAL BUDGET HEARING THAT SHOWS DATA ON ALL
5:35:08PM POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR SIX MONTHS OR GREATER,
5:35:13PM INCLUDING TPD AND TFR.
5:35:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:35:17PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:35:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:35:19PM AYE.
5:35:20PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:35:20PM ANYTHING ELSE?
5:35:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:35:22PM THE MOTION THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TO AMEND THE
5:35:26PM FINANCIAL TRANSACTION, THAT WAS AUGUST 8 MOTION.
5:35:30PM I WANT TO AMEND IT TO SAY A LIST OF FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS
5:35:34PM THAT WILL REDUCE THE FUND BALANCE FOR FY '24.
5:35:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL
5:35:42PM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:35:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:35:43PM AYE.
5:35:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:35:44PM YES, MA'AM.
5:35:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE.
5:35:46PM THESE ARE TWO CLARIFYING MOTIONS THAT WERE MADE.
5:35:49PM I MOVE TO HAVE THE NOVEMBER 21st IN-PERSON REPORT BY
5:35:53PM REVENUE AND FINANCE INCLUDE A LOOK AT ALL REVENUE SOURCES
5:35:57PM AND A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS WHAT WENT UP AND WENT DOWN AND BY
5:36:01PM HOW MUCH IN FY '24.
5:36:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
5:36:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS STILL ATTACHED TO THAT NOVEMBER 21.
5:36:08PM THIS CLARIFIES THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
5:36:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
5:36:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:36:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:36:14PM AYE.
5:36:14PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:36:15PM ANYTHING ELSE?
5:36:15PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON?
5:36:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON THE SEPTEMBER 26 WORKSHOP, WE HAVE A
5:36:24PM DISCUSSION ABOUT THE INDIAN ROCKS BEACH REGULATIONS
5:36:27PM PERTAINING TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
5:36:30PM HUGE ISSUE IN TAMPA.
5:36:31PM LEGAL INFORMED ME THAT THERE'S LITIGATION REGARDING THAT.
5:36:36PM SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT ITEM TO THE APRIL 24 WORKSHOP.
5:36:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
5:36:44PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:36:46PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:36:46PM AYE.
5:36:47PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:36:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO, LAST WEEK DURING NEW BUSINESS, A
5:36:51PM MOTION WAS MADE DURING THE BUDGET HEARING, I GUESS THAT WAS
5:36:58PM TUESDAY, AND A MOTION WAS MADE IN NEW BUSINESS ABOUT THE ART
5:37:07PM SPACE.
5:37:08PM I ABSTAINED TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF ANY POTENTIAL
5:37:11PM CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION ON FURTHER
5:37:15PM CONSULTATION WITH MARTY, I DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT OF
5:37:17PM INTEREST.
5:37:17PM IT IS A NONPROFIT BOARD.
5:37:19PM I DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH IT AND I DON'T
5:37:23PM PROFIT FROM IT.
5:37:24PM I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE FORM 8 B.
5:37:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:37:32PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:37:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:37:34PM AYE.
5:37:35PM ANYTHING ELSE?
5:37:39PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
5:37:41PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
5:37:43PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
5:37:44PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:37:45PM AYE.
5:37:46PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
5:37:46PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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