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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2024, 9:00 A.M.

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9:06:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO
9:06:44AM ORDER.
9:06:45AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:06:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:06:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:06:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:06:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:06:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:06:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:06:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:06:55AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:06:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:06:57AM I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON FOR
9:06:59AM TODAY'S INVOCATION.
9:07:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PASTOR ALAN M. HARRIS HAS THE SINGLE HONOR
9:07:05AM OF SERVING AS THE LEAD SERVANT SENIOR PASTOR OF BEULAH
9:07:08AM BAPTIST INSTITUTIONAL CHURCH, THE OLDEST AFRICAN AMERICAN
9:07:10AM BAPTIST CHURCH IN TAMPA.

9:07:12AM PASTOR HARRIS HOLDS THREE POSTGRADUATE DEGREES AND IS
9:07:16AM CURRENTLY WORKING ON HIS FOURTH.
9:07:17AM PASTOR HARRIS IS A STAUNCH ADVOCATE OF SOCIAL JUSTICE
9:07:21AM MATTERS AND MINISTERING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
9:07:23AM HE IS MARRIED TO JOY FOR 18 YEARS AND PROUD PARENTS OF
9:07:27AM ISAIAH ALAN AND 13-YEAR-OLD AND THEIR BLESSED SURPRISE IVANA
9:07:32AM L. HARRIS WHO IS 6 MONTHS OLD.
9:07:35AM WELCOME, PASTOR HARRIS.
9:07:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
9:07:39AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:07:47AM >> LET US PRAY.
9:07:49AM ETERNAL GOD, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, HOW THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL
9:07:54AM WE ARE FOR THIS ANOTHER DAY WHICH YOU HAVE ALLOWED US TO
9:07:57AM SEE.
9:07:57AM FATHER, AS YOU HAVE ALLOWED US TO GATHER IN THIS PLACE AT
9:08:01AM THIS APPOINTED TIME, FATHER, WE ARE REMINDED THAT YOU TOLD
9:08:04AM US IN YOUR WORD THAT WE ARE TO GIVE THANKS IN ALL THINGS.
9:08:09AM SO THIS MORNING, GOD, WE ARE SO THANKFUL AS WE COUNT THE
9:08:13AM MANY BLESSINGS WHICH YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US.
9:08:16AM FATHER, AS WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH THE AFTERMATH OF
9:08:19AM HURRICANE MILTON, FATHER, WE TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED ON
9:08:23AM THIS MORNING.
9:08:24AM FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR LIFE, THANK YOU FOR HEALTH, AND
9:08:27AM THANK YOU FOR STRENGTH.
9:08:28AM FATHER, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US AND SUSTAINING US IN THE

9:08:32AM MIDST OF IT ALL.
9:08:34AM THIS MORNING, GOD, WE THANK YOU, LORD, ALSO, FOR THE VARIOUS
9:08:38AM LEADERS THAT YOU HAVE RAISED UP AND APPOINTED FOR SUCH A
9:08:41AM TIME AS THIS.
9:08:43AM FATHER, WE ASK GOD YOUR CONTINUED BLESSINGS UPON THEM, THAT,
9:08:46AM GOD, THEY WOULD SEEK YOUR FACE FOR WISDOM THAT THEY WOULD
9:08:49AM SEEK YOUR FACE FOR INSIGHT, GOD, THAT THEY WOULD SEEK YOUR
9:08:52AM FACE FOR GUIDANCE.
9:08:53AM FATHER, AS THEY CONTINUE TO, LORD, TO MINISTER AND SERVE THE
9:08:59AM PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT CITY, FATHER, CONTINUE LORD TO HELP
9:09:02AM THEM TO BE STEADFAST AND UNMOVABLE, ALWAYS IN THE WORK OF
9:09:06AM THE LORD KNOWING THEIR LABOR IS NOT IN VAIN.
9:09:09AM WE PRAY NOW GOD THAT WE WOULD NOT ONLY BE PEOPLE WHO WOULD
9:09:13AM THANK YOU, LORD, FOR OUR LEADERS BUT, FATHER, MAY WE COME
9:09:15AM AROUND THEM, MAY WE SUPPORT THEM, MAY WE ENCOURAGE THEM,
9:09:19AM LORD, AS THEY CONTINUE, LORD, TO SERVE THIS GREAT CITY.
9:09:21AM FATHER, CONTINUE TO BLESS US AS ONLY YOU CAN.
9:09:24AM IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
9:09:28AM >> AMEN.
9:09:29AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:09:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:09:40AM WE ALREADY DID ROLL CALL.
9:09:41AM MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REVIEW THE RULES AND PROCEDURE
9:09:45AM OF PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:09:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

9:09:47AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:09:47AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:09:49AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:09:53AM I WILL BE BRIEF WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING.
9:09:57AM THERE ARE SPEAKER CARDS FOR YOU TO FILL OUT TO PLACE IN THE
9:10:00AM BOX OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
9:10:02AM ONE CARD PER SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:10:04AM CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
9:10:07AM COMMENT.
9:10:07AM EACH PERSON SPEAKING WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO APPROACH
9:10:12AM AND SPEAK.
9:10:12AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
9:10:15AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
9:10:16AM NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
9:10:19AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE IS
9:10:21AM ONE I BELIEVE ON TODAY'S AGENDA, USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET
9:10:25AM INSTEAD.
9:10:25AM IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
9:10:28AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS.
9:10:32AM AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM
9:10:36AM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING
9:10:39AM REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES, SOUNDS OR
9:10:43AM DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:10:45AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL
9:10:47AM ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBERS

9:10:50AM OF THE PUBLIC.
9:10:52AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THESE COUNCIL RULES MAY BE
9:10:54AM RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
9:10:58AM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY.
9:11:01AM FINALLY, COUNCIL, PLEASE KNOW THAT THE RULES REQUIRE YOU TO
9:11:04AM REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER A PUBLIC COMMENT
9:11:07AM SECTION AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
9:11:10AM DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL
9:11:14AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:11:14AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR
9:11:17AM OPINION.
9:11:18AM THANK YOU.
9:11:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:11:19AM I'LL DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING.
9:11:21AM ITEM NUMBER 1, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK IS GOING TO CONTINUE
9:11:24AM THAT ITEM, CORRECT?
9:11:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:11:26AM THE COMMENDATION FOR HARRY HEDGES WILL BE CONTINUED TO A
9:11:29AM FUTURE DATE.
9:11:30AM MR. HEDGES' HOME WAS DAMAGED DURING HELENE.
9:11:33AM WE'LL FIND A FUTURE DATE THAT WORKS FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY.
9:11:36AM I DO NOT HAVE A DATE TO MOVE IT TO.
9:11:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE TO A FUTURE DATE.
9:11:40AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:11:43AM WE'LL DETERMINE THE DATE.

9:11:44AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:44AM AYE.
9:11:45AM ITEM NUMBER 2 IS MY ITEM.
9:11:47AM I WOULD HIKE TO CONTINUE THAT IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
9:11:49AM A MOTION FOR FUTURE DATE.
9:11:50AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:11:51AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:11:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:53AM AYE.
9:11:54AM ALL RIGHT.
9:11:55AM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CEREMONIAL
9:11:59AM TODAY, REGARDING THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, AS WE BEGIN THIS
9:12:01AM MEETING, AFTER WE GO THROUGH HOUSEKEEPING, THAT THE
9:12:04AM ADMINISTRATION PROVIDE US A STORM UPDATE.
9:12:07AM WE NEED A MOTION.
9:12:09AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:12:10AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:12:11AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:12AM AYE.
9:12:12AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:12:13AM ALL RIGHT.
9:12:15AM MOTION, I RECEIVED A MEMO TO PULL ITEMS 39 AND 40 AND PLACE
9:12:20AM THEM UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:12:22AM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
9:12:27AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.

9:12:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:31AM AYE.
9:12:32AM YES, MA'AM.
9:12:33AM IT'S BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
9:12:35AM THAT'S WHY.
9:12:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ITEM
9:12:40AM 40.
9:12:40AM I JUST WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT NOW.
9:12:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
9:12:43AM WHEN WE GET TO IT, MR. SHELBY WILL GO THROUGH EVERYTHING.
9:12:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE I'LL HAVE TO RECUSE
9:12:54AM MYSELF WHEN IT COMES TIME.
9:12:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 39 AND 40 PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:12:58AM I HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED TO CONTINUE ITEMS 53 AND 54 TO
9:13:03AM NOVEMBER 7.
9:13:05AM 53 AND 54 ARE BEING CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 7 FOR THE
9:13:08AM 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING.
9:13:10AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER --
9:13:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'LL HAVE TO HOLD THOSE
9:13:13AM UNTIL 10:30 A.M.
9:13:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
9:13:16AM JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, 53 AND 54 WE'LL HAVE TO HOLD IT
9:13:20AM UNTIL 10:30, BUT THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS TO
9:13:24AM NOVEMBER 7.
9:13:25AM UNDER STAFF REPORTS -- I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT A LOT OF THESE

9:13:29AM ARE REQUESTING TO BE CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 5th.
9:13:32AM WE ARE ALREADY HAVE FIVE STAFF REPORTS SET FOR NOVEMBER 5,
9:13:36AM LEAVING ROOM FOR TWO MORE UNLESS COUNCIL WAIVES THE RULES
9:13:40AM WHICH WOULD MAKE 11 FOR DECEMBER 5.
9:13:42AM CAN ANY BE CONVERTED TO WRITTEN STAFF REPORT, SET FOR A
9:13:45AM LATER DATE THAT HAS AVAILABLE STAFF REPORTS?
9:13:47AM I'LL GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE.
9:13:50AM FIRST, WE'LL ASK FOR ITEM NUMBER 58, THERE IS A REQUEST TO
9:13:54AM MOVE THAT TO DECEMBER 5th UNDER WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
9:13:59AM IS THAT GOOD?
9:14:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE MOVE THAT FURTHER?
9:14:03AM CAN WE MOVE THAT INTO JANUARY?
9:14:06AM IT'S NOT SOMETHING NECESSARILY PRESSING.
9:14:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME GET A JANUARY DATE.
9:14:11AM WE HAVE JANUARY 23.
9:14:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEM 58 TO JANUARY 23.
9:14:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 58 IS MOTION TO JANUARY 23 UNDER
9:14:26AM IN-PERSON STAFF REPORTS.
9:14:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JANUARY 23.
9:14:29AM IT'S OPEN.
9:14:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S FINE.
9:14:32AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:14:34AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:35AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:36AM AYE.

9:14:37AM ANY OPPOSED.
9:14:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE SAME FOR 59.
9:14:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 59, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THAT WAS YOUR
9:14:42AM MOTION.
9:14:43AM IS THAT GOOD FOR JANUARY 23rd OR WANT IT FOR SURE ON
9:14:46AM DECEMBER 5?
9:14:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO JANUARY 23.
9:14:50AM THAT PARK WAS FLOODED AND OFFICER PAZ WILL BE HERE IN
9:14:54AM DECEMBER.
9:14:54AM LET'S DO JANUARY.
9:14:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND FOR 59 FOR JANUARY
9:14:58AM 23rd.
9:14:59AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:15:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:02AM AYE.
9:15:03AM ITEM NUMBER 60 --
9:15:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY NOT DO THE SAME THING.
9:15:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 60, JANUARY 23.
9:15:09AM THAT'S MY MOTION, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE THE MOTION.
9:15:12AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:15:12AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:15:14AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:15AM AYE.
9:15:15AM ITEM NUMBER 61, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS TO
9:15:19AM NOVEMBER 21st.

9:15:21AM IS THAT GOOD?
9:15:21AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:15:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:15:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:25AM AYE.
9:15:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:15:27AM ITEM NUMBER 62, THIS IS FOR A DECEMBER 5 CONTINUATION.
9:15:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE DO THAT IN JANUARY?
9:15:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JANUARY 23, IS THAT GOOD, COUNCILMAN
9:15:38AM VIERA?
9:15:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS DECEMBER PARTICULARLY PACKED?
9:15:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, VERY, VERY.
9:15:45AM WE HAVE A MOTION FOR JANUARY 23 FOR ITEM 62.
9:15:48AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:15:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:50AM ITEM NUMBER 63, ALSO A REQUEST -- COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:15:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF IT WILL BE CONTINUED
9:15:59AM TO DECEMBER 5, THE NEXT QUARTERLY UPDATE WILL BE JANUARY 9
9:16:03AM ANYWAY.
9:16:03AM I SAY WE CANCEL THIS AND WAIT UNTIL JANUARY 9.
9:16:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO STRIKE FROM THE AGENDA THEN.
9:16:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:16:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:16:12AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:16:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?

9:16:14AM ITEM 63 WE'RE GOING TO STRIKE THAT FROM THE AGENDA AND WAIT
9:16:17AM UNTIL THE JANUARY 9.
9:16:19AM ITEM 64, COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:16:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DECEMBER 5 IS FINE.
9:16:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 64 IS MOTION TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER
9:16:28AM 5th BY COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:16:30AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:16:31AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:16:32AM AYE.
9:16:33AM FOR WRITTEN STAFF REPORT, 65, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR A
9:16:37AM DECEMBER 5th, BUT IT'S WRITTEN.
9:16:39AM SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:16:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEP.
9:16:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:16:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:16:44AM AYE.
9:16:44AM YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:16:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:16:53AM I DON'T NEED TO DO -- I DON'T REALLY NEED TO PULL THE ITEMS,
9:16:56AM BUT I HAVE SOME MOTIONS I'D LIKE TO CONNECT TO ITEMS 30 AND
9:17:00AM 31 WHEN WE GET TO THEM.
9:17:02AM I KNOW THAT YOU PREFER TO HAVE US MAKE THE MOTION IN
9:17:07AM CONNECTION TO THE ITEM.
9:17:08AM IF WE COULD NOT REALLY PULL THEM BUT SORT OF PULL THEM.
9:17:12AM 30 AND 31, JUST TO HAVE SEPARATE VOTES SO I CAN MAKE MY

9:17:16AM MOTION.
9:17:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN THAT COMMITTEE, THE CONSENT ITEM
9:17:20AM COMES UP UNDER YOUR COMMITTEE, JUST REMIND ME.
9:17:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW AHEAD OF TIME.
9:17:26AM I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU PREFER THAT.
9:17:29AM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
9:17:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID WE MOVE THAT FOR JANUARY 23rd.
9:17:50AM ITEM 62, A MOTION TO PLACE THAT UNDER CEREMONIAL AT THE
9:17:54AM JANUARY 23rd CITY COUNCIL.
9:17:55AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:17:57AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:17:59AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:17:59AM AYE.
9:18:00AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO STORM UPDATE BY THE
9:18:05AM ADMINISTRATION.
9:18:06AM LET ME GIVE YOU THE GROUND RULES HERE.
9:18:08AM PLEASE ALLOW HIM TO MAKE THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION BEFORE
9:18:10AM ASKING ANY QUESTIONS.
9:18:11AM CAN I GET APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 3?
9:18:17AM MOTION FROM CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
9:18:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:18:20AM AYE.
9:18:21AM YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:18:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, SORRY.
9:18:24AM I ALSO WANT TO PULL 41 DURING THAT SAME TIME.

9:18:28AM FOR ME, 39, 40, 41.
9:18:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST REMIND ME WHEN WE GET TO IT.
9:18:33AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM?
9:18:36AM MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN, ALL IN FAVOR?
9:18:39AM AYE.
9:18:40AM WE'LL HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION GIVE US A STORM UPDATE.
9:18:46AM PLEASE ALLOW HIM TO COMPLETE THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION BEFORE
9:18:49AM ASKING ANY QUESTIONS.
9:18:50AM WHEN WE GET TO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ASK QUESTIONS, I'LL START
9:18:53AM WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA BECAUSE HE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD
9:18:56AM MEETING TUESDAY NIGHT.
9:18:57AM THEN DOWN THE LINE WITH MIRANDA.
9:19:00AM FIVE MINUTES EACH TO SPEAK.
9:19:01AM FIRST ROUND, SECOND ROUND THREE MINUTES.
9:19:03AM AND THEN WE'LL, OF COURSE, BEGIN THEN.
9:19:06AM CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT, DO YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF?
9:19:10AM YES, MR. SHELBY.
9:19:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT --
9:19:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUBLIC COMMENT WILL TAKE PLACE RIGHT
9:19:15AM AFTER THIS UPDATE.
9:19:16AM WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:19:19AM AFTER THE COUNCIL SPEAKS AND WE HAVE THE COMPLETE
9:19:21AM PRESENTATION.
9:19:22AM YES, SIR, CHIEF.
9:19:23AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN.

9:19:24AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
9:19:26AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:19:27AM FIRST, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR GIVING US THE TIME THIS
9:19:31AM MORNING TO SHARE WITH YOU AND THE PUBLIC WHERE WE ARE IN
9:19:34AM THIS SITUATION WITH THE AFTERMATH OF HURRICANE MILTON.
9:19:38AM TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, I'VE BEEN SERVING THE CITY SINCE
9:19:43AM 1984.
9:19:44AM IN 2004, WE HAD FOUR STORMS IN SIX WEEKS, ABOUT THE TIME IT
9:19:48AM TAKES TO PRESENT THE BUDGET AND PASS THE BUDGET IN MID
9:19:52AM AUGUST TO LATE SEPTEMBER, WE HAD FOUR STORMS.
9:19:55AM THEY WERE CHARLEY, FRANCES, IVAN, AND JEANNE.
9:19:59AM SO WE'VE HAD TWO STORMS IN TWO WEEKS.
9:20:01AM OBVIOUSLY, THE FOUR PHASES OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT START
9:20:04AM WITH MITIGATION, PREPAREDNESS, RESPONSE, AND RECOVERY.
9:20:08AM WE ARE IN BETWEEN RESPONSE AND RECOVERY BECAUSE NOT
9:20:10AM EVERYTHING IS SET TO BE IN RECOVERY STATE.
9:20:14AM I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THEY HAVE
9:20:16AM GIVEN THE ADMINISTRATION OVER THIS ADMINISTRATION TO DO A
9:20:19AM LOT OF MITIGATION AND PREPAREDNESS WORK.
9:20:22AM YOU'LL HEAR FROM OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM EXACTLY WHAT
9:20:24AM THAT ENTAILED.
9:20:26AM BUT EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF FROM APPROVING PIPES TO
9:20:29AM DOING STORMWATER WORK, ALL THESE THINGS CREATED MITIGATION
9:20:32AM EFFORTS IN OUR PREPAREDNESS TO HELP THE CITY STAND RESILIENT
9:20:36AM AGAINST THESE TWO STORMS.

9:20:38AM I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE I BELIEVE CHIEF TRIPP MIGHT BE
9:20:42AM VIRTUAL.
9:20:43AM SHE WILL COME ON AND INTRODUCE HER STAFF.
9:20:45AM AS THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED, WE'LL HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION
9:20:48AM TO GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS.
9:20:50AM WE'LL TRY AND STAY FORWARD-FACING.
9:20:52AM WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR AFTER-ACTION WORK.
9:20:55AM BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT CAN WE
9:20:58AM DO FOR YOU NOW AND WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO NOW.
9:21:00AM OF COURSE, COUNCIL CAN SUPPLY FEEDBACK AND WE HAVE ALL OUR
9:21:04AM SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND PORTFOLIOS HERE TO ANSWER
9:21:08AM QUESTIONS BEFORE THE PRESENTATION.
9:21:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION?
9:21:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
9:21:13AM I LAID IT OUT SO CLEARLY AND THE MAN IS SPEAKING.
9:21:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS NOT A FIVE-MINUTE UPDATE.
9:21:19AM THIS WILL BE LIKE AN HOUR.
9:21:21AM US SPEAKING WILL BE AN HOUR.
9:21:22AM I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT TWO HOURS.
9:21:25AM I THINK THEY SHOULD SPEAK AFTER THE STAFF.
9:21:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M ONLY GOING TO SPEAK 30 SECONDS SO
9:21:30AM THAT SHAVES IT OFF.
9:21:33AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK CHIEF TRIPP IS VIRTUAL, CHAIR.
9:21:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
9:21:38AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

9:21:40AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:21:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:21:42AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: FIRST OF ALL, GOOD MORNING.
9:21:43AM BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AS WELL AS
9:21:45AM EMERGENCY MANAGER.
9:21:48AM AS CHIEF BENNETT HAS STATED, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST
9:21:51AM COUPLE OF WEEKS HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN CHALLENGING FOR OUR
9:21:55AM COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:21:58AM MY HISTORY I'VE NEVER SEEN TWO BACK-TO-BACK MAJOR STORMS HIT
9:22:03AM TAMPA.
9:22:03AM YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS BEEN PREPARING PRE- AND
9:22:09AM DURING THE INCIDENT AS WELL AS POST TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY
9:22:12AM AND COMMUNITY GET BACK TO A LEVEL OF NORMALCY.
9:22:15AM WITH THAT SAID, I'LL INTRODUCE JOHN ANTAPASIS, EMERGENCY
9:22:19AM MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.
9:22:20AM HE'LL PRESENT A DETAILED REPORT AND OVERVIEW OF WHAT TOOK
9:22:23AM PLACE AND ALL THE PARTNERS INVOLVED THROUGHOUT AND CONTINUE
9:22:29AM TO PROCEED FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:22:30AM AFTERWARDS, I'LL SPEAK AGAIN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS
9:22:32AM THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH SUPPLYING INFORMATION TO
9:22:37AM THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY NEED ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE.
9:22:40AM I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN ANTAPASIS, CHIEF OF OPERATIONS.
9:22:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:22:46AM >>JOHN ANTAPASIS: JOHN ANTAPASIS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
9:22:51AM I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING CITY COUNCIL, ADMINISTRATION AND

9:22:53AM THE PUBLIC.
9:22:54AM I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE WITH YOU AN UPDATE FROM HURRICANE
9:22:57AM MILTON AS WELL AS HURRICANE HELENE AND WHERE WE ARE, WHAT
9:23:00AM WE'VE BEEN THROUGH AND WHAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO WITH THE
9:23:03AM COMMUNITY.
9:23:03AM BEFORE I BEGIN, I JUST HAVE TO THANK ALL THE PUBLIC FOR
9:23:07AM BEING PREPARED FOR THIS STORM.
9:23:09AM OUR CITY STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY FOR THE
9:23:12AM LAST FOUR WEEKS FOR BOTH STORMS AS WELL AS ALL THE MUTUAL
9:23:15AM AID PARTNERS THAT CAME IN THROUGHOUT THE STORM, THROUGHOUT
9:23:18AM THE STATE OF FLORIDA, UP THROUGH KENTUCKY, ALABAMA.
9:23:21AM WE HAD TEAMS THROUGHOUT OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SUPPORTING
9:23:24AM US IN THIS HISTORIC STORM THAT CAME THROUGH BACK TO BACK FOR
9:23:27AM US TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND, SAVE LIVES, AND PROTECT PROPERTY.
9:23:31AM JUST REAL QUICK ON THE OVERVIEW, SIMILAR TO PAST STORMS, I
9:23:38AM WANT TO PROVIDE THE SITUATION REPORT AND UPDATE OF WHAT WE
9:23:41AM DID PRIOR TO THE STORM, DURING THE RESPONSE AND WHAT WE'RE
9:23:44AM CONTINUING TO DO TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC IN THIS
9:23:47AM TIME OF NEED.
9:23:48AM WE WILL GO THROUGH A TIMELINE OF EVENTS.
9:23:50AM OUR PROTECTIVE ACTIONS THAT WE TOOK BEFORE THE STORM, OUR
9:23:53AM INITIAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE, OUR PRELIMINARY DAMAGE
9:23:56AM ASSESSMENTS, OUR ONGOING RECOVERY, RELIEF EFFORTS THAT ARE
9:24:00AM CURRENTLY OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE STATE OF OUR
9:24:02AM COMMUNITY LIFE LINES, WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

9:24:04AM AND OBVIOUSLY OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:24:06AM GOING BACK TO SEPTEMBER 26 AND TO THE NIGHT OF SEPTEMBER 27,
9:24:13AM WE HAD THE LANDFALLING IMPACTS FROM HURRICANE HELENE.
9:24:17AM THAT WAS UNPRECEDENTED STORM SURGE THAT WE HAD IN OUR
9:24:19AM COMMUNITY DURING THAT TIME, AND I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU AFTER
9:24:22AM THAT STORM AT CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE THAT UPDATE.
9:24:25AM BUT THEN SEVEN DAYS LATER, THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
9:24:29AM AROUND OCTOBER 4 WE STARTED GETTING ALERTS FROM DOWN IN
9:24:32AM MIAMI AND OUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OF A TROPICAL
9:24:35AM SYSTEM THAT WAS MAKING ITS WAY INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO.
9:24:37AM SLOWLY AS THOSE DAYS WENT ON AND I KNOW YOU GUYS WERE
9:24:42AM INCLUDED IN OUR WEATHER BRIEFINGS AND SITUATION REPORTS, WE
9:24:44AM CONTINUED TO MONITOR THAT SYSTEM AS UPDATES WERE OCCURRING.
9:24:48AM ULTIMATELY THROUGHOUT THAT WEEK, IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THE
9:24:52AM WEST COAST OF FLORIDA WAS GOING TO RECEIVE IMPACTS FROM A
9:24:55AM MAJOR HURRICANE ON A VERY UNIQUE TRACK AS IT WENT EASTWARD
9:25:00AM TOWARDS THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN THE GULF OF MEXICO.
9:25:02AM JUST ON THE TIMELINE, IT GOT UP ON OCTOBER 7 TO A CATEGORY 5
9:25:08AM HURRICANE, MAJOR HURRICANE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO AS IT WAS
9:25:11AM MAKING ITS PATH TOWARDS THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA.
9:25:14AM WITH ALL THESE STORMS, THEY HAVE A NATURE OF THEIR OWN, YET
9:25:18AM OUR METEOROLOGISTS HAVE THOSE CONE OF UNCERTAINTY OF WHERE
9:25:22AM THAT ULTIMATE TRACK WILL LAND.
9:25:25AM BUT MANY MOMENTS THROUGHOUT THOSE DAYS THAT CITY OF TAMPA,
9:25:27AM TAMPA BAY WAS RIGHT IN THE LINE OF GETTING A DIRECT IMPACT

9:25:30AM FROM A MAJOR CATEGORY 5-4 STORM INTO THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
9:25:36AM THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HISTORIC.
9:25:37AM OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD TO TAKE ALL MEASURES APPROPRIATE FOR THAT
9:25:41AM SITUATION OCCURRING.
9:25:42AM ULTIMATELY, OCTOBER 9 AND 10, THERE WAS A LANDFALL MADE
9:25:46AM SOUTH OF US NEAR SIESTA KEY IN SARASOTA COUNTY, BUT
9:25:50AM ULTIMATELY WE DID RECEIVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO THE CITY OF
9:25:52AM TAMPA FROM THIS INCIDENT.
9:25:55AM ON OCTOBER 10 AT DAYBREAK, OUR TEAMS INITIALLY WENT OUT AND
9:25:59AM WE STARTED DOING OUR INITIAL FIRST PUSH AND RESPONSE AT
9:26:03AM DAYBREAK THAT MORNING IN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER
9:26:06AM WITH CITY LEADERSHIP AND ALL OUR PERSONNEL.
9:26:08AM WE WERE AWAKE WELL INTO THE NIGHT, GOING INTO THE MORNING
9:26:11AM AND AT DAYBREAK, WE ACTUALLY HAD FOOTAGE RIGHT OUT ON SCENE
9:26:16AM GOING THROUGH OUR PUSH TEAMS, OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTER
9:26:19AM PUSH TEAMS TO GET THAT VISUAL AT DAYBREAK.
9:26:21AM BEFORE THE STORM, ULTIMATELY WE HAVE OUR HURRICANE PLANS
9:26:27AM THAT WE PUT IN MOTION, AND BECAUSE OF HELENE JUST LITERALLY
9:26:32AM SEVEN DAYS BEFORE, WE WERE ABLE TO PULL RIGHT BACK THAT
9:26:35AM PLAYBOOK OUT, BUT IT DID NEED TO BE MODIFIED AS A
9:26:38AM CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE WAS EXPECTED TO OUR AREA.
9:26:41AM WE WERE PROVIDING MULTIPLE BRIEFINGS AS YOU GUYS WERE
9:26:44AM INCLUDED ON THOSE DISTRIBUTION LISTS.
9:26:46AM WE GO INTO OUR DEPARTMENT PROTECTIVE ACTIONS.
9:26:48AM OUR KNOW YOUR ROLE GETS ACTIVATED AGAIN.

9:26:51AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTIVATE THEIR
9:26:54AM HURRICANE OPERATION PLANS.
9:26:55AM WE ACTIVATED SANDBAG DISTRIBUTION SITES AS WELL.
9:26:58AM TPD DID DOOR-TO-DOOR ANNOUNCEMENTS, EVACUATIONS.
9:27:01AM ONCE THAT EVACUATION ORDER WAS MADE BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY
9:27:04AM COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
9:27:06AM AND WE ALSO INCLUDED HOW -- OTHER UNIQUE CHALLENGES.
9:27:11AM DEMOBILIZE OUR COMFORT STATIONS WE HAD AT DE SOTO PARK,
9:27:15AM MARJORIE PARK.
9:27:16AM A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN PLACE BECAUSE WE WERE STILL IN THAT
9:27:18AM RESPONSE RELIEF MODE FROM HELENE BUT HAD TO GET BACK INTO
9:27:23AM MODE FOR MILTON IMPACTS THAT WERE COMING OUR WAY.
9:27:26AM ALSO, ANOTHER JUST MAMMOTH TASK WAS ALL THE DEBRIS, CLEANUP
9:27:31AM PRE-STORM.
9:27:32AM THE BIG MISSION PRE-STORM WAS TO GET AS MUCH OF THE DEBRIS
9:27:35AM FROM HELENE UP AS POSSIBLE BEFORE MILTON MADE LANDFALL.
9:27:40AM LARRY WASHINGTON AND HIS TEAM, THEY REALLY PUSHED ROCKS TO
9:27:44AM GET AS MUCH UP AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE IMPACTS FROM MILTON.
9:27:48AM BIG OBJECTIVE PRE-STORM AND A LOT OF MOVEMENT WAS MADE
9:27:51AM THERE.
9:27:51AM AND THEN SOME STATISTICS UP ON THE BOARD AS WELL OF JUST HOW
9:27:55AM MUCH WORK WAS ACTUALLY GETTING DONE PRE-STORM.
9:27:58AM ADDITIONALLY, PRE-STORM, WE HAVE TO MOBILIZE EMERGENCY
9:28:03AM STAFFING AND EQUIPMENT BETWEEN OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE
9:28:07AM AGENCY, TAMPA POLICE, TAMPA FIRE, AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC

9:28:09AM WORKS TEAMS AS WELL AS ALL THE KNOW YOUR ROLE POSITIONS,
9:28:13AM INCLUDING SHELTERING OPERATIONS, AS WELL AS EMERGENCY
9:28:17AM OPERATION CENTER.
9:28:18AM THERE WERE ALSO LARGE EFFORTS TO PROTECT CRITICAL
9:28:21AM INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOME LESSONS LEARNED WE HAD FROM HELENE
9:28:25AM AND ALL THAT STORM SURGE, WE HAD FRESH IN OUR MIND FROM THE
9:28:27AM WEEK BEFORE OF WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK TO PROTECT.
9:28:30AM AND ON THIS PHOTO IS THE PUMP STATION FOR WASTEWATER.
9:28:34AM WE WERE ABLE TO GET WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO DEPLOY A
9:28:37AM TIGER DAM PRE-STORM TO PROTECT THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE
9:28:40AM BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS IF THAT DID GO DOWN DURING MILTON AND
9:28:44AM WHAT THAT WOULD CAUSE WITH WASTEWATER BACKFLOWS.
9:28:47AM THAT PROTECTION WAS ADDED AS WELL.
9:28:48AM THERE WAS AN EVACUATION LEVEL CALLED BY THE COUNTY FOR A
9:28:52AM LEVEL A AND B ORDER.
9:28:53AM THAT ALSO INCLUDED ACTIVATIONS OF GENERAL POPULATION AND
9:28:56AM SPECIAL NEED SHELTERS.
9:28:58AM TO NOTE OF THAT, OUR MIDDLETON SHELTER IS ONE OF THE LARGEST
9:29:02AM IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:29:02AM WE HAD ABOUT 1800 RESIDENTS THAT WERE IN THAT BUILDING
9:29:06AM THROUGHOUT THE STORM.
9:29:07AM AND CITY RESIDENTS STAFFED THAT TIRELESSLY.
9:29:10AM THE FIRST TO ACTIVATE SUNDAY AND GOING THROUGH FOUR NIGHTS
9:29:13AM THAT SHELTER WAS ACTIVATED.
9:29:15AM OUR CITY STAFF WERE THERE EVERY DAY TO ENSURE THOSE

9:29:18AM RESIDENTS WERE SAFE.
9:29:19AM EMERGENCY FUELING PLAN.
9:29:22AM WE ACTIVATED THAT AS WELL PRE-STORM.
9:29:24AM EMERGENCY FEEDING.
9:29:25AM WE HAD THE CITIZEN INFORMATION CENTER ACTIVATED TO ANSWER
9:29:28AM QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL COOP
9:29:32AM PLANNING.
9:29:33AM ONCE WE GET TO A MAJOR HURRICANE STATUS, IT MEANS CONTINUITY
9:29:36AM OF OPERATIONS, WE HAVE TO TAKE IN ASPECTS OF WE'RE LOOKING
9:29:39AM AT A MAJOR HURRICANE IMPACT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AS A
9:29:42AM COASTAL COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO PUT IN STRATEGIES TO ENSURE
9:29:45AM THAT WE CAN HAVE CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS FOR OUR
9:29:48AM DEPARTMENTS, FOR OUR GOVERNMENT.
9:29:49AM THAT WAS ALSO IMPLEMENTED AS WELL.
9:29:51AM OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, OTHER STATE ASSETS WERE COMING IN.
9:29:55AM WE WERE CALLING IN STATE ASSETS PRE-STORM BETWEEN
9:29:58AM GENERATORS, AGAIN, THE TIGER DAMS, STRIKE TEAMS COMING IN TO
9:30:02AM ASSIST FIRE RESCUE, POLICE, AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC WORKS
9:30:04AM TEAMS.
9:30:05AM WE PUT THAT ALL IN THE QUEUE PRE-STORM.
9:30:07AM AS I STATED AT DAYBREAK, AFTER HURRICANE MILTON MADE
9:30:15AM LANDFALL NEAR SIESTA KEY, OUR PUSH TEAMS WERE OUT AT 6 A.M.
9:30:18AM THAT MORNING.
9:30:19AM THEY GET FOOD.
9:30:20AM THEY GO RIGHT OUT AND THEY START DOING THEIR INITIAL PUSH TO

9:30:24AM AGAIN CLEAR THAT DEBRIS OFF OUR CRITICAL ROADWAYS AND AS
9:30:27AM WELL AS DO OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE CHECKS THROUGHOUT THE
9:30:30AM CITY.
9:30:30AM WE HAD OUR EMERGENCY DRONE TEAM DEPLOYMENT, SO WE WERE
9:30:33AM GETTING LIVE VISUALS THAT MORNING AT THE EOC TO SEE
9:30:37AM LITERALLY DOWN STREETS AND EVEN SOME VERY INNOVATIVE STUFF
9:30:40AM WITH WEB CAMS TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WAS OUT IN THE FIELD AT
9:30:44AM DAYBREAK, HONESTLY SUCH AN INNOVATIVE THING THAT THE CITY OF
9:30:48AM TAMPA DID DURING THIS ONE.
9:30:49AM I CAN'T SAY ANOTHER CITY HAS DONE THAT.
9:30:52AM THEN THE HIGH-WATER RESCUES IN FLOODED AREAS BEGAN.
9:30:56AM THOSE RESPONSES OCCURRED AS WELL AS TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT,
9:31:00AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO GET INTO THOSE FLOODED AREAS THAT
9:31:03AM OCCURRED POST STORM.
9:31:04AM I KNOW EVEN COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAD SOME WITH NONPROFITS
9:31:07AM DOING RESCUES.
9:31:08AM WE WERE ABLE TO GET A BUS OUT THERE TO GET THOSE RESIDENTS
9:31:11AM PICKED UP TO A SAFE LOCATION.
9:31:13AM WE ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH TECO IN OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS
9:31:17AM CENTER.
9:31:17AM AS THOSE TEAMS GO THROUGH AND WE FOUND DOWNED POWER LINES,
9:31:21AM WE'RE TRACKING THOSE LIVE FOR TECO TO GET OUT THERE AND GET
9:31:24AM THAT RESTORATION PROCESS GOING.
9:31:26AM ANOTHER BIG THING, OBVIOUSLY, WITH LARGE POWER OUTAGES
9:31:29AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, OUR GENERATOR DEPLOYMENT NEEDED TO TAKE

9:31:32AM PLACE, SO WE HAD GENERATORS AT MANY OF OUR CRITICAL
9:31:36AM INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT ALSO
9:31:38AM ANOTHER CHALLENGE WAS THE FUEL.
9:31:39AM SO AS FUEL SHORTAGES BEGAN, WE HAD TO CONTINUE TO DO MILK
9:31:44AM RUNS, WHAT THEY ARE CALLED, TO REFILL THOSE GENERATORS
9:31:46AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA TO ENSURE OPERATIONS.
9:31:49AM AGAIN, A LARGE MAMMOTH RESPONSE THERE.
9:31:53AM AGAIN, PRELIMINARY DAMAGE ASSESSMENT, THAT IS A PROCESS WE
9:31:58AM HAVE IN OUR EMERGENCY PLANS.
9:32:00AM AGAIN, THAT'S TO ASSESS WHAT OCCURRED DURING THE INCIDENT
9:32:02AM THAT WE HAVE TO REPORT UP TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:32:05AM THESE NUMBERS ARE ONGOING, AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO
9:32:08AM INCREASE IN OUR EXPECTATION.
9:32:10AM BUT TO LAY THEM OUT, 778 AFFECTED, 787 MINOR.
9:32:15AM 311 MAJOR.
9:32:16AM AND 24 DESTROYED HOMES.
9:32:19AM THAT'S FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
9:32:21AM WE'RE APPROXIMATING ABOUT 237 MILLION CURRENTLY, BUT WE DO
9:32:24AM EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO GO UP ON OUR FINAL DAMAGE ASSESSMENT
9:32:28AM FROM MILTON.
9:32:28AM ALSO, TO KIND OF PAINT THE PICTURE, AS HISTORIC TWO MAJOR
9:32:37AM STORM IMPACTS FOR TAMPA, IT REALLY IS A TALE TWO OF STORIES
9:32:40AM FROM HELENE AND MILTON.
9:32:42AM HELENE WAS THAT HISTORIC STORM SURGE THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE
9:32:47AM CITY OF TAMPA.

9:32:47AM SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES RECEIVED THOSE IMPACTS.
9:32:50AM DAVIS ISLANDS, DE SOTO PARK, SOUTH OF GANDY, WESTSHORE, AND
9:32:54AM IT WAS HISTORIC.
9:32:56AM A LOT OF DAMAGES, OVER 500 MILLION EXPECTED ON THAT STORM.
9:32:59AM WITH HURRICANE MILTON, IT'S BEEN WIDESPREAD.
9:33:03AM WE DIDN'T SEE THAT SURGE THAT WE SAW FOR HELENE, BUT WE DID
9:33:06AM SEE WIDESPREAD WIND DAMAGE, AND WE ALSO HAD THAT FLOODING
9:33:10AM OCCUR AS WELL IN CERTAIN AREAS INLAND.
9:33:13AM TWO DIFFERENT STORMS.
9:33:14AM BUT WE DO USE A SOFTWARE CALLED CRISIS TRACK.
9:33:17AM THAT ALLOWS US TO TRACK THE HOMES AND WE USE PROPERTY
9:33:20AM APPRAISER DATA TO GET THOSE ESTIMATES.
9:33:22AM AGAIN, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THOSE NUMBERS TO GO UP AS WELL.
9:33:25AM ONGOING RECOVERY, AS CHIEF BENNETT SAID, WE ARE STILL IN
9:33:32AM THAT BETWEEN OF RESPONSE AND RECOVERY MODE.
9:33:34AM WE STILL HAVE EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTER PUSH TEAMS OUT THERE
9:33:37AM IN THE FIELD TODAY.
9:33:38AM THEY ARE CLEARING TREES ON ROADS AND NEIGHBORHOODS
9:33:42AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:33:43AM WE HAVE THOSE WORK ORDERS CONTINUING ON TODAY.
9:33:46AM AND WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PULL IN A STATE FORESTRY TEAM
9:33:49AM TO ASSIST US AS WELL, WHICH HAS BEEN A HUGE CAPACITY FOR THE
9:33:53AM CITY TO REALLY GET AHEAD OF EVERYTHING.
9:33:56AM A BEST PRACTICE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE TEAM HERE,
9:33:59AM BECAUSE WE IDENTIFIED SO MUCH IN THE FIELD FROM THAT FIRST

9:34:02AM PUSH, THOSE TEAMS WERE ABLE TO GET WORK ORDERS RIGHT AWAY TO
9:34:05AM START WORK.
9:34:06AM WE'LL HAVE THE FORESTRY TEAM AGAIN THROUGHOUT TODAY.
9:34:09AM ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, THE FUEL SHORTAGE MITIGATING TODAY BUT BEEN
9:34:15AM VERY DYNAMIC THE LAST FEW DAYS SO WE CONTINUE THAT RESPONSE
9:34:18AM AS WELL.
9:34:18AM THE MAJOR DEBRIS CLEANUP IS ONGOING.
9:34:22AM WE'LL TAKE MANY MORE DAYS TO FULLY BE CLEANED UP.
9:34:25AM THAT'S ONGOING AS WELL.
9:34:27AM JUST TO KIND OF PAINT THE PICTURE BETWEEN THE TWO STORMS
9:34:33AM FROM THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT SIDE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A
9:34:37AM SIGNIFICANT DEBRIS OPERATION FOR HELENE.
9:34:39AM OBVIOUSLY IN THOSE LOCALIZED SURGE AREAS, BUT NOW WITH
9:34:43AM MILTON, IT IS CONTINUING TO BE AN ALL HANDS ON DECK BETWEEN
9:34:46AM THE CONTRACTORS, SOLID WASTE TEAM, AND REALLY EVERYONE THAT
9:34:49AM IS PART OF THE TEAM THAT WILL BE PICKING UP THE DEBRIS FROM
9:34:52AM BOTH THE STORMS.
9:34:53AM IT IS A COMPLICATED EFFORT OF HOW WE SORT AND GET THESE TO
9:34:56AM THE DEBRIS SITES AND HOW THAT IS MANAGED AND MONITORED, BUT
9:35:01AM THAT IS GOING TO BE ONGOING.
9:35:02AM JUST TO SHOW SOME OF THE STATS, WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO GET
9:35:06AM THAT PUSH AS GETTING MUCH DEBRIS PRE-MILTON TO BE IN A GOOD
9:35:11AM STATE OF AFFAIRS THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE AND WORKING THROUGH
9:35:14AM FOR MANY, MANY DAYS.
9:35:15AM ON THE RELIEF EFFORTS OPERATIONS, VERY QUICKLY, WE WERE ABLE

9:35:21AM TO WORK WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO
9:35:23AM SET UP THESE POINTS OF DISTRIBUTION SITES AT AL LOPEZ AND
9:35:27AM THE GANDY BOAT RAMP.
9:35:29AM THOSE ARE THE LARGER OPERATIONS OF DRIVE-THROUGH TO PICK UP
9:35:32AM MEALS, WATER, TARPS AND OTHER COMMODITIES.
9:35:36AM HIGH DEMAND AT THESE SITES THAT HAS BEEN TAPERING OFF.
9:35:40AM THE INITIAL AFTER LANDFALL, THE SITES WERE VERY BUSY.
9:35:44AM IN ADDITION TO GET INTO HARDER HIT AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN THE
9:35:46AM FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD AND UP IN NORTH TAMPA, WE SUPPLIED
9:35:50AM THESE NEIGHBORHOOD POP-UP SUPPLIES.
9:35:52AM SO INDIVIDUALS COULD WALK UP, GET THE SUPPLIES AND HAVE
9:35:55AM THOSE CLOSER TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET THOSE LIFESAVING
9:35:58AM COMMODITIES OUT THERE.
9:35:59AM IN ADDITION, THE MASS FEEDING OPERATIONS AND DONATIONS THAT
9:36:02AM ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY I'M SURE ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT
9:36:05AM AND ABOUT AND SEE THE PLETHORA OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT
9:36:08AM COME FROM OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS.
9:36:11AM SHOUT-OUT TO SALVATION ARMY, AMERICAN RED CROSS, WORLD
9:36:14AM KITCHEN AND SO MANY OTHERS THAT ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY
9:36:16AM ARE SETTING UP THEIR OWN FEEDING OPERATIONS AND THEY
9:36:19AM COORDINATE WITH US AT THE CITY OF WHERE THE NEED IS, AND
9:36:21AM THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT GREAT RELIEF OUT THERE TO THE
9:36:24AM RESIDENTS AS WELL.
9:36:25AM ALSO AT BARKSDALE, WE DID HAVE STARTING TWO DAYS AGO, BUT
9:36:31AM YESTERDAY WAS THE FULL DAY, FEMA DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER.

9:36:35AM WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE STATE RESOURCES THERE AS WELL AS THE
9:36:38AM CITY RESOURCES TO BE ON-SITE FOR RESIDENTS TO COME IN, GET
9:36:41AM MORE INFORMATION, GET UPDATES ON THEIR APPLICATION FROM FEMA
9:36:45AM DIRECTLY.
9:36:46AM IT IS A GREAT RESOURCE.
9:36:47AM WE ARE THE ONLY ONE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WITH THAT
9:36:50AM RESOURCE RIGHT NOW.
9:36:51AM A FULL FEMA DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER.
9:36:53AM THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS IN ST. PETERSBURG.
9:36:55AM ONE THING WE ARE JUST COMING THROUGH THIS CHALLENGE IS FEMA
9:36:59AM IS STRETCHED.
9:37:00AM THEY ARE HAVING RESOURCES ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH NORTH
9:37:02AM CAROLINA FROM HELENE AND THE STAFFING OUT THERE IS LIMITED.
9:37:06AM I WAS THERE ALL MORNING YESTERDAY AND THERE WAS A POINT IN
9:37:09AM TIME WHERE FEMA HAD TO DO A CUTOFF AROUND 11:00, THAT THEY
9:37:12AM COULDN'T TAKE IN ANY MORE.
9:37:14AM WE HAD A HUNDRED RESIDENTS OUTSIDE.
9:37:16AM WE SPOKE WITH THEM ABOUT AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION.
9:37:19AM WE WERE ABLE TO GET LUNCH OUT THERE FOR THE RESIDENTS BUT
9:37:21AM THEY ARE STRETCHED THIN WITH STAFFING AND WE'RE CONTINUING
9:37:24AM TO PUSH WITH FEMA HEADQUARTERS.
9:37:26AM IF WE CAN GET MORE STAFFING AT THE SITE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO
9:37:29AM PROCESS MORE PEOPLE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
9:37:31AM CURRENTLY, JUST THE STATE OF COMMUNITY LIFELINES, I WANTED
9:37:37AM TO HIGHLIGHT, OBVIOUSLY HUGE IMPROVEMENT THIS MORNING.

9:37:41AM TECO GAVE US THE UPDATE THIS MORNING.
9:37:43AM ABOUT 8,000 CUSTOMERS STILL WITHOUT POWER BUT THEY ARE ABOUT
9:37:47AM 99% BACK ON POWER THROUGHOUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:37:50AM THAT, AGAIN, FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS HAD BEEN ONE OF OUR
9:37:54AM BIGGEST ISSUES BETWEEN FUEL AND ELECTRICAL POWER BEING OUT
9:37:57AM AND ALL THE CASCADING IMPACTS THAT OCCUR WHEN THAT IS
9:38:01AM HAPPENING.
9:38:02AM WE ARE SEEING LIGHT AT THE TUNNEL LITERALLY IN THE CITY OF
9:38:05AM TAMPA THIS MORNING.
9:38:06AM THE PORT IS FULLY OPERATIONAL.
9:38:09AM COMMERCIAL FUEL IS OPERATIONAL.
9:38:10AM MAJORITY OF ALL OUR CITY FIXED ASSETS AND CRITICAL
9:38:13AM INFRASTRUCTURE IS BACK ON ELECTRICAL POWER AND MAJORITY OF
9:38:15AM ALL SUPERMARKETS ARE BACK OPEN AS WELL.
9:38:18AM JUST FINALLY, WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE.
9:38:25AM AGAIN, OUR TEAM, THE CITY TEAM, CITY LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN
9:38:28AM HERE WITH OUR RESIDENTS FOR THESE PAST FOUR WEEKS.
9:38:30AM WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
9:38:32AM WE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
9:38:34AM WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CITIZEN INFORMATION CENTER OPEN.
9:38:37AM 833-TPA-INFO.
9:38:40AM MANY RESIDENTS HAVE CALLED THE NUMBER, REPORTED DAMAGES,
9:38:43AM ISSUES, BUT ALSO WANT MORE INFORMATION OF ALL THE DIFFERENT
9:38:46AM RESOURCES OUT THERE.
9:38:47AM WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT RUNNING THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS

9:38:50AM WELL AS OUR WEBSITE, TAMPA.GOV/HURRICANE.
9:38:54AM WE UPDATE THAT FREQUENTLY AND VERY ROBUST ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
9:38:57AM I KNOW MANY PEOPLE FOLLOW INFORMATION, Facebook, TWITTER.
9:39:00AM WE PROVIDE AS RESOURCES COME AVAILABLE ON ALL THE METHODS TO
9:39:05AM TRY TO GET OUT THE INFORMATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
9:39:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION, CHIEF
9:39:12AM BENNETT?
9:39:13AM >>JOHN BENNETT: YES.
9:39:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:39:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:39:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF TRIPP, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE
9:39:21AM TO ADD?
9:39:22AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: NO.
9:39:23AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY -- AS JOHN SPOKE, WE HAVE MEMBERS HERE
9:39:30AM THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST ANYONE IN THE CHAMBER WITH SOME
9:39:34AM FLYERS TO GIVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CONCERNING DISASTER
9:39:37AM RELIEF.
9:39:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE FOLKS SITTING OUTSIDE?
9:39:40AM IF ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS NEEDS ANY DIRECT ASSISTANCE, WE
9:39:44AM HAVE PEOPLE OUTSIDE AS WELL.
9:39:45AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I'LL START WITH YOU AND GO WITH
9:39:49AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND DOWN THE LINE.
9:39:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:39:52AM MILTON AND HELENE HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN A GIANT TRAGEDY FOR
9:39:56AM OUR COMMUNITY ON SO MANY LEVELS AND OUR STAFF, WE CONTINUE

9:40:00AM TO BE VERY, VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL THE STAFF, TO SAY YOU ARE
9:40:04AM WORKING OVERTIME, THAT IS QUITE THE UNDERSTATEMENT.
9:40:07AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO DID MENTION WE DID A COMMUNITY MEETING
9:40:10AM OUT AT FOREST HILLS.
9:40:11AM SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE AT THE CHURCH BUT THEY UNFORTUNATELY
9:40:13AM LOST POWER, SO WE'RE MOVING IT TO NEXT WEEK.
9:40:16AM OBVIOUSLY, FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF
9:40:20AM EMOTION OUT THERE.
9:40:21AM I WOULD BE EMOTIONAL, TOO, IF I WAS NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE AND
9:40:26AM GOT FLOODED.
9:40:26AM I WOULD BE VERY, VERY EMOTIONAL AND WOULD WANT ANSWERS.
9:40:30AM I DON'T JUDGE ANYBODY.
9:40:32AM IN FACT, IT WAS VERY, VERY MUCH ANTICIPATED BECAUSE I THINK
9:40:36AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NORMAL.
9:40:38AM IN MILTON, WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITIES.
9:40:41AM ROBLES PARK.
9:40:42AM ALSO A LOT OF NORTH TAMPA COMMUNITIES THAT WERE NOT IN FLOOD
9:40:45AM ZONES THAT WERE AFFECTED.
9:40:47AM FOREST HILLS, UNIVERSITY AREA, OVERLOOK, FRIENDS AT
9:40:51AM TIMBERFALLS OFF 113th STREET.
9:40:54AM I REPRESENT THESE COMMUNITIES.
9:40:55AM VIRTUALLY ALL OF WHICH ARE NON-FLOOD ZONES, ZONE X.
9:41:00AM THESE COMMUNITIES FLOODED WITH DEVASTATING RESULTS TO THE
9:41:05AM COMMUNITIES.
9:41:05AM WE THINK ABOUT A GROUP LIKE TIMBERFALLS OFF 113th STREET,

9:41:09AM SOMETHING WE DEALT A LOT WITH ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
9:41:13AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLOODED, GONE.
9:41:16AM PEOPLE WHO ARE SENIOR CITIZENS.
9:41:17AM PEOPLE ON DISABILITIES.
9:41:19AM PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOMES.
9:41:20AM PEOPLE WORKING SERVICE SECTOR JOBS LOST EVERYTHING.
9:41:24AM THEY DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT.
9:41:24AM THEY ARE NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE.
9:41:26AM FOREST HILLS, UNIVERSITY AREA, HOME TO MANY, MANY LOWER
9:41:30AM INCOME, HARDWORKING FAMILIES, GONE.
9:41:33AM THERE'S A LOT OF ANGER OUT THERE.
9:41:35AM A LOT OF FRUSTRATION OUT THERE.
9:41:36AM A LOT OF EMOTION OUT THERE.
9:41:38AM I FEEL IT WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE.
9:41:41AM AND PEOPLE HAVE REASONABLE QUESTIONS THAT THEY ARE MAKING
9:41:46AM THAT I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, QUESTIONS THAT I THINK
9:41:48AM THAT IF I DIDN'T ASK AND PROPOSE THE THINGS THAT I'M
9:41:52AM PROPOSING, THAT I WOULD BE THE WORST ELECTED OFFICIAL ON
9:41:55AM EARTH FOR MY CONSTITUENTS.
9:41:57AM I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO ACT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING
9:42:00AM TRANSPARENCY.
9:42:01AM I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.
9:42:03AM I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT AND MAKING SURE WE'RE
9:42:06AM HERE, CONTINUE TO BE HERE, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE.
9:42:10AM THE CITY HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN TERMS OF BEING THERE

9:42:14AM FOR PEOPLE, FEEDING SITES, COMFORT STATIONS.
9:42:17AM PEOPLE WORKING OVERTIME.
9:42:19AM CITY COUNCIL, I BELIEVE AND I HOPE THE COUNTY COMMISSION
9:42:22AM NEEDS TO APPROPRIATE AS I'LL TALK ABOUT SUPPLEMENT DOLLARS
9:42:25AM FOR PEOPLE.
9:42:26AM THINGS LIKE HOUSING, FILLING IN THE GAP ON ANY SORTS OF
9:42:29AM NEEDS.
9:42:30AM FOOD, INSURANCE, ET CETERA.
9:42:32AM IT WASN'T JUST A STORM OF THE CENTURY.
9:42:34AM IT IS THE CRISIS OF A CENTURY FOR PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD
9:42:39AM A CRISIS.
9:42:39AM TWO DAYS AGO I TALKED TO A CUBAN AMERICAN FAMILY,
9:42:42AM 89-YEAR-OLD WOMAN, BOUGHT A HOUSE NEXT TO HER TWO DAUGHTERS.
9:42:46AM ONE WORKED AT A FLEA MARKET AND ANOTHER SEWING CLOTHES.
9:42:50AM THE AMERICAN DREAM GONE.
9:42:52AM GUY WHO MOWED LAWNS IN FOREST HILLS, MEXICAN AMERICAN, BUYS
9:42:56AM A HOUSE, GONE.
9:42:57AM NO FLOOD INSURANCE.
9:42:58AM ANOTHER WOMAN WORKING AT WALMART CASHIER, GONE, NO FLOOD
9:43:02AM INSURANCE.
9:43:02AM ANOTHER WOMAN AUTISTIC SON, AUTISTIC GRANDSON LIVES WITH
9:43:08AM HER, GONE.
9:43:09AM NO FLOOD INSURANCE.
9:43:10AM THOSE PEOPLE DESERVE ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS TO BE POSED.
9:43:14AM WHEN I TALK ABOUT AND IT'S BEEN OUT IN THE MEDIA AND I

9:43:17AM TALKED ABOUT IT, FORMAL INQUIRY, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON
9:43:19AM WHAT I'M PROPOSING AND WHAT I'M NOT.
9:43:22AM I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS.
9:43:24AM I HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP AS TAMPA CITY COUNCILMAN.
9:43:30AM CONTINUE TO DO SO.
9:43:31AM IN LIGHT OF THIS UNCOMPENSATED LOSS AND COMMUNITIES WITH NO
9:43:35AM FLOOD INSURANCE, COMMUNITIES THAT DID NOT SEE THIS COMING
9:43:37AM AND QUESTIONS RAISED INCLUDING STATEMENTS IN THE MEDIA ABOUT
9:43:40AM BACKUP GENERATORS, ET CETERA, THAT A FORMAL INQUIRY OF SOME
9:43:44AM SORT SHOULD HAPPEN.
9:43:46AM I DO THAT NOT TO POINT FISSION AT THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THE
9:43:50AM STATE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHOEVER.
9:43:52AM I DO THAT BECAUSE GIVEN THE LOSS, THAT IS WHAT A GOOD AND
9:43:55AM HONEST GOVERNMENT DOES IS SET IT ASIDE AND LET FOLKS WHO ARE
9:43:59AM NOT INVOLVED IN SUCH A TRAGEDY HAVE AN OBJECTIVE LOOK.
9:44:03AM THAT'S ALL I WANT TO DO.
9:44:05AM I KNOW TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HAS INVESTIGATORY POWERS.
9:44:11AM OUR FRIENDS IN EAST COUNTY, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE A CITY
9:44:15AM AND COUNTY JOINT EFFORT TO LOOK AT ALL OF US BECAUSE WE ARE
9:44:18AM INTERTWINED ON SO MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES AS A COUNTY.
9:44:22AM WANT IT TO BE DONE BY EXPERTS, NOT POLITICIANS, BY PEOPLE
9:44:25AM WHO KNOW.
9:44:27AM I HAVE AN UNCLE -- MAY I HAVE TWO MORE MINUTES, SIR?
9:44:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
9:44:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

9:44:34AM I HAVE AN UNCLE WHO IS A CHEMICAL ENGINEER WHO SERVED ON THE
9:44:39AM LEVEE COMMISSION AFTER KATRINA.
9:44:42AM KIND OF FUNNY LIKE THAT.
9:44:44AM I'LL TALK MORE AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT IN TERMS OF WHAT I WANT
9:44:47AM FROM THE INQUIRY, INVESTIGATION.
9:44:49AM IT'S NOT TO POINT FINGERS.
9:44:51AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
9:44:52AM ALL I KNOW IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED A LOT WHO
9:44:55AM ARE ASKING REASONABLE QUESTIONS, NOT THEORIES, CONSPIRACY
9:45:01AM THEORIES, REASONABLE QUESTIONS.
9:45:03AM WE HAVE 15 PUMPING STATIONS.
9:45:05AM THREE HAD BACKUP GENERATORS.
9:45:07AM ACCORDING TO INFORMATION I HAVE, THREE PUMPS IN FOREST
9:45:09AM HILLS.
9:45:10AM ONE HAD A BACKUP GENERATOR.
9:45:12AM IF WE HAD THEM THERE, WOULD THINGS HAVE BEEN BETTER?
9:45:15AM SOMETHING WAS SAID IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES THAT LED ME TO
9:45:19AM BELIEVE THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.
9:45:22AM THIS IS A VERY HISTORIC STORM.
9:45:25AM ONE IN 300 YEAR STORM.
9:45:27AM NOBODY CAN TEST THAT.
9:45:30AM I DON'T WANT AN INVESTIGATION ON HOW TO PREVENT STORMS OR
9:45:33AM HURRICANES.
9:45:33AM BUT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN THE CITY
9:45:36AM OF TAMPA AND IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN DEALING WITH THESE

9:45:39AM ISSUES, TO TAKE A LOOK AT INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT WENT RIGHT.
9:45:42AM WHAT WENT WRONG AND HOW WE CAN DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE SO
9:45:45AM PEOPLE WHO WERE AFFECTED HAVE ANSWERS.
9:45:47AM I THINK THE AFFECTED FAMILIES, TOO, NEED HELP FOR THESE
9:45:50AM HURRICANES.
9:45:51AM WE SHOULD APPROPRIATE MONEY, SIGNIFICANT ROBUST MONEY FOR
9:45:54AM THAT.
9:45:54AM AND WE ALSO OUGHT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEVASTATING EFFECT THIS
9:45:58AM WILL HAVE ON NORTH TAMPA.
9:46:00AM ONE OF THE FEW PLACES IN TAMPA FOR WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE
9:46:03AM HOUSING.
9:46:03AM THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES OF FAMILIES WHO HAVE LIVED THERE
9:46:07AM FOR GENERATIONS BEING PRICED OUT OF THEIR HOMES, PRICED OUT
9:46:10AM OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.
9:46:12AM WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE EFFECTS.
9:46:14AM I COULD TALK ABOUT IT FOREVER, BUT I'LL BE QUIET.
9:46:17AM ALL I'M SAYING IS GIVEN THE DEVASTATION, GIVEN THE FAMILIES
9:46:25AM HAVEN'T BEEN COMPENSATED FOR LOSSES, REASONABLE QUESTIONS,
9:46:27AM THERE NEEDS TO BE AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION HAD ON THIS
9:46:31AM ISSUE.
9:46:31AM NOT BECAUSE I'M POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY, BUT GIVEN THE
9:46:34AM REASONABLE QUESTIONS.
9:46:35AM IT MAY VERY WELL HAPPEN.
9:46:36AM IT COULD HAPPEN VERY EASILY THAT WE HAVE, NOTHING COULD HAVE
9:46:41AM PREVENTED OR HAD WE HAD SOMETHING OUT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN

9:46:43AM A VERY MINIMAL DIFFERENCE.
9:46:45AM LET'S HAVE THE PROCESS GO FORWARD SO THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO
9:46:48AM HAVE LOST EVERYTHING -- EVERYTHING CAN HAVE THE ANSWERS THAT
9:46:51AM THEY NEED.
9:46:52AM WE OWE THEM THAT AT THE VERY LEAST.
9:46:54AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:46:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:46:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MR. VIERA JUST SPOKE
9:47:01AM ABOUT.
9:47:01AM THIS IS THE NEW NORM.
9:47:03AM NOWHERE HAS THE CITY OF TAMPA EVER ENCOUNTERED RAIN A WEEK
9:47:11AM OR SO BEFORE A HURRICANE, RAIN IN BETWEEN THE HURRICANES AND
9:47:14AM THEN ANOTHER HURRICANE.
9:47:16AM AND WE'RE LUCKY IN A WAY THAT IT DIDN'T COME FIVE, TEN, 15
9:47:20AM MILES NORTH.
9:47:22AM MORE THAN LIKELY NONE OF US WOULD BE HERE TALKING TO EACH
9:47:24AM OTHER TODAY.
9:47:26AM WHAT HAPPENED IS A SIGNAL OF WHAT'S COMING.
9:47:30AM AND WHAT'S COMING IS WE MUST CHANGE THE WAY WE LIVE.
9:47:33AM WE MUST CHANGE THE WAY WE BUILD STRUCTURES.
9:47:37AM WE MUST CHANGE WHY ROOFS COLLAPSE, WHY WALLS FALL IN,
9:47:42AM BECAUSE THE EAVES PICK UP THE ROOF FROM THE HURRICANE WIND.
9:47:45AM NOT THE WIND THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM.
9:47:47AM IT IS THE FLOODING THAT DOES A LOT OF THE PROBLEM, MY
9:47:50AM OPINION.

9:47:50AM I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN NONE OF THIS.
9:47:53AM WHEN I SEE THESE THINGS COMING AND COMING, SENDS A MESSAGE,
9:47:58AM HERE WAS A HURRICANE HEADING WEST, TURNED AROUND AND CAME
9:48:03AM EAST.
9:48:05AM NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE.
9:48:06AM ALL MY YEARS LIVING IN TAMPA, MAYBE TWO OR THREE SMALL
9:48:09AM HURRICANES IN THE GULF.
9:48:10AM NOW SIX OF THEM SO FAR.
9:48:13AM AND MAJOR ONES.
9:48:14AM IF YOU THINK TAMPA IS BAD, LOOK AT ASHEVILLE, NORTH
9:48:18AM CAROLINA.
9:48:18AM THE SAME HURRICANE, ONE OF THEM.
9:48:21AM WHAT'S HAPPENING TO US IS THAT WE MUST CHANGE, A, THE WAY WE
9:48:26AM LIVE, A, THE WAY WE BUILD STRUCTURES AND B, UNDERSTAND THAT
9:48:30AM WE CANNOT CONTROL THE ENVIRONMENT AND KEEP ABUSING IT
9:48:34AM BECAUSE THIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THINGS WE DO.
9:48:36AM I'M NOT BLAMING GOVERNMENT.
9:48:39AM EVERY HOUSE THAT ANYBODY OWNS ONLY KEEPS IT TO A MAXIMUM OR
9:48:44AM MINIMUM OF WHATEVER THEY CAN IN THAT STANDARD.
9:48:46AM SO THAT THEY CAN PREVENT SOMETHING HAPPENING TO THEIR HOME.
9:48:50AM HOWEVER NONE ONE PREPARED FOR THIS ONE.
9:48:59AM THIS IS A STANDARD, HOW DO WE BUILD HOUSES NOW?
9:49:02AM GO TO THE ISLANDS IN THE SOUTH, THE CARIBBEAN, THEY DON'T
9:49:08AM BUILD HOUSES LIKE WE DO.
9:49:09AM WHEN A HURRICANE COMES THROUGH, YEAH, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE

9:49:12AM OUT IN THE FARMS AND ALL THAT, WIPES THEM OUT.
9:49:15AM DON'T SEE NO CONCRETE HOUSE GO OUT.
9:49:18AM NO SHINGLES ON THE ROOF.
9:49:19AM THEY ARE CONCRETE ROOFS WITH REBAR WIRE ALL THROUGH THEM.
9:49:24AM THEY DON'T LOOK TOO GOOD ON THE OUTSIDE BUT INSIDE THE
9:49:27AM HOUSES ARE BEAUTIFUL.
9:49:29AM NO DRYWALL IN THOSE HOUSES.
9:49:32AM ALL THE ELECTRICAL WORK IS DONE THROUGH PIPES AND SYSTEMS
9:49:34AM THAT DON'T GET WET.
9:49:36AM WE LIVE THE LIFE WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
9:49:39AM IT WAS GREAT UNTIL JUST A FEW DAYS AGO WHEN NATURE SAID, I'M
9:49:43AM CHANGING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ABUSED.
9:49:49AM I'M NOT BLAMING NATURE.
9:49:50AM I'M BLAMING US.
9:49:51AM THERE'S MORE PLASTIC IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN GREATER THAN THE
9:49:54AM STATE OF TEXAS IN SIZE AND WE STILL USE PLASTIC BAGS.
9:49:59AM EVERY DAY WE THROW THEM AWAY.
9:50:04AM I'M NOT BLAMING THE CITY.
9:50:09AM THE STANDARD THAT WAS THERE WAS THERE.
9:50:13AM AND THEY WORKED TILL WHEN?
9:50:16AM TILL JUST BEFORE THE HURRICANE.
9:50:17AM ONE.
9:50:18AM NOW WE HAVE THE SITUATION THAT'S CREATED.
9:50:23AM I CAN'T STOP A HURRICANE FROM COMING HERE.
9:50:26AM WE MUST CHANGE.

9:50:27AM MUST WORK TOGETHER.
9:50:28AM MUST HAVE A NEW REVIEW ON HOW WE BUILD THINGS AND HOW WE
9:50:32AM MAKE THEM LAST FOREVER, NO SHINGLES CAN FLY OFF.
9:50:36AM NO EAVES THAT CAN TEAR UP A HOUSE.
9:50:39AM NO WALLS CAN COLLAPSE.
9:50:41AM CONCRETE THROUGH THE FIRST FLOOR, BLOCKS.
9:50:45AM WHAT DO YOU SEE ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
9:50:46AM TELL ME?
9:50:47AM WOOD.
9:50:49AM WE'RE REAL SMART.
9:50:53AM NOW YOU SEE A ROOF WITH EAVES THIS FAR OUT, THINK THE WIND
9:50:57AM CAN'T PICK THAT UP?
9:50:58AM WHAT HAPPENS?
9:51:01AM WALLS COLLAPSE.
9:51:03AM FLOODING INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
9:51:04AM GOT ZERO CHANCE OF WINNING.
9:51:07AM WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WE CAN WORK WITH AND CHANGE.
9:51:10AM BUT LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE 1800 AND 1900, YOU HAD A
9:51:15AM HORSE AND YOU HAD A CAR.
9:51:20AM $500, WHATEVER IT WAS.
9:51:22AM NOW AIR-CONDITIONING COSTS YOU 4,000.
9:51:24AM WE LIVE GREAT.
9:51:25AM LIVE COOL.
9:51:26AM WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE WANT, FORGOT ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
9:51:30AM I'M NOT BLAMING ANY GOVERNMENT YET WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

9:51:33AM LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY, FOR NOT THINKING AHEAD.
9:51:37AM WE GOT TO STOP THINKING ABOUT YESTERDAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO
9:51:40AM THE FUTURE.
9:51:41AM IF NOT, THERE IS NO FUTURE.
9:51:43AM I'M NOT BEING A PREACHER.
9:51:47AM I'M TELLING YOU WHAT I LEARNED IN MY LIFE.
9:51:50AM IF WE CAN'T CHANGE, WE WILL NOT SURVIVE.
9:51:54AM DON'T CARE WHAT COUNTRY, THE RESOURCES, EVERYTHING IS MONEY.
9:51:58AM NO ONE TOLD YOU WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
9:52:00AM HOW CAN YOU BUY ALL THESE THINGS IF YOU HAVE A BALANCED
9:52:03AM BUDGET ALREADY?
9:52:03AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:52:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:52:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:52:08AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:52:09AM AS A NEW MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS THE FIRST STORM
9:52:13AM THAT I'VE HAD TO PARTICIPATE IN NOT JUST AS A CITIZEN, BUT
9:52:17AM AS A PUBLIC SERVANT.
9:52:21AM TODAY I AM JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE, AND THAT
9:52:27AM MIGHT MAKE ME A LITTLE BIT EMOTIONAL, BUT SO BE IT.
9:52:34AM I WATCHED THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY GO THROUGH
9:52:37AM SOMETHING, AND IT'S NOT OF CONNECTED TO POLITICAL
9:52:42AM AFFILIATION.
9:52:42AM IT'S NOT EVEN CONNECTED TO YOUR WEALTH OR THE LACK THEREOF.
9:52:47AM THIS STORM HAPPENED TO EVERYONE.

9:52:49AM I JUST WANT TO THANK THE LORD BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN
9:52:53AM WORSE.
9:52:53AM I WATCHED OUR STAFF.
9:52:55AM I WENT AND SPENT TIME WITH THEM.
9:52:57AM I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO STOP BY A FEW MINUTES BUT ENDED UP
9:53:01AM STAYING FOR SIX HOURS WHERE THEY LEAVE THEIR FAMILIES AND
9:53:04AM SPEND THE NIGHT FROM EVERY DIVISION, WORKING TO SOLVE
9:53:10AM PROBLEMS.
9:53:11AM SOME BIGGER THAN OTHERS TO PUT THE CITY BACK TOGETHER.
9:53:14AM AND THAT WAS REALLY INCREDIBLE TO ME TO WATCH THAT, SOMEONE
9:53:19AM THAT PRESENTED TO US TODAY, JOHN.
9:53:22AM HE TO MAKE SURE HIS FAMILY, YOU KNOW, WAS SAFE SO HE COULD
9:53:27AM BUNKER DOWN AND CONCENTRATE ON TAKING CARE OF THE CITIZENS
9:53:29AM OF TAMPA.
9:53:30AM I APPRECIATE THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:53:32AM NATURAL DISASTERS, NATURAL THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
9:53:34AM BACK WHEN I WAS A KID IN 7th GRADE IT SNOWED.
9:53:37AM WE WENT TO SCHOOL AND IT WAS GREAT.
9:53:40AM WE GATHERED UP AS MUCH SNOW AS WE COULD.
9:53:43AM WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE KIND OF PROBLEMS, BUT THE CLIMATE HAS
9:53:45AM CHANGED AND WE HAVE PROBLEMS.
9:53:47AM INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE.
9:53:49AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL SAY REGARDING PROGRAM PLANNING
9:53:51AM IS ONCE THINGS HAPPEN, YOU ACTUALLY FIND OUT, HEY, THIS IS A
9:53:56AM PROBLEM THAT WE NOW NEED TO ADDRESS.

9:53:58AM THOSE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, PROGRAM PLANNING.
9:54:01AM CAN THINGS BE DONE BETTER?
9:54:02AM ABSOLUTELY.
9:54:03AM ABSOLUTELY.
9:54:05AM BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THE PROBLEM ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
9:54:11AM THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE.
9:54:14AM IF FLOODED OVER IN FOREST HILLS, SOMEONE WAS COMPLAINING
9:54:17AM ABOUT IT FLOODED OVER IN ROBLES.
9:54:19AM WELL, IT FLOODED OVER IN FOREST HILLS, TOO, YOU KNOW.
9:54:23AM IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PUMPING THAT PARTICULAR AREA JUST TO GET
9:54:28AM THE WATER OUT.
9:54:29AM THE PROBLEM MAY BE A LITTLE BIGGER THAN THAT AND WE DIDN'T
9:54:33AM KNOW IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM UNTIL IT PRESENTED ITSELF.
9:54:36AM THERE ARE THINGS THAT DO NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND I LOOK
9:54:39AM FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION AND OUR VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED
9:54:43AM STAFF WHO WORK IN THOSE AREAS THAT CAN MAKE THOSE
9:54:46AM RECOMMENDATIONS ALONG WITH MAYBE EVEN PROFESSIONAL
9:54:48AM CONSULTANTS SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW BEST TO TACKLE OUR
9:54:52AM ISSUES AND OUR CHALLENGES, BUT IT IS NO ONE'S FAULT.
9:54:56AM IT IS NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON'S FAULT.
9:54:59AM WE DECIDED ON THE BEST WAY TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD AND IF
9:55:03AM THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT NEED TO BE IN THE BUDGET
9:55:06AM FOR IT, THEN SO BE IT.
9:55:08AM WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT IN THAT MANNER.
9:55:10AM IT COST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO RUN THE CITY.

9:55:14AM IF WE FIX A PROBLEM, THE MONEY IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM
9:55:17AM SOMEWHERE.
9:55:19AM SO IF WE ASK FOR A MILLAGE INCREASE, LET'S SAY, WHAT -- AND
9:55:23AM WE SAY IT'S ALL GOING TO GO TO FIXING ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS
9:55:26AM THAT WE HAVE.
9:55:27AM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT WHEN IT'S $45, $200 OR
9:55:32AM $3,000 ON YOUR PROPERTY TAXES?
9:55:35AM ARE YOU GOING TO PARTICIPATE?
9:55:36AM ARE YOU GOING TO REMEMBER THIS DAY WHEN WE NEED TO --
9:55:40AM SOMEBODY INTERRUPTING?
9:55:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP GOING.
9:55:46AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:55:46AM PLEASE, SHE'S SPEAKING.
9:55:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST A STATEMENT.
9:55:52AM TAKE IT AS YOU WILL.
9:55:53AM NEVERTHELESS, THE NATURAL STORM, THE NATURAL STORMS THAT
9:56:01AM HAVE HAPPENED IN OUR CITY DOES NOT BELONG TO AN INDIVIDUAL
9:56:06AM WHERE IT'S SOMEONE'S FAULT.
9:56:08AM I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE 6,000 MEN AND WOMEN LINEMEN WHO
9:56:13AM ROLLED INTO OUR CITY, PREPARED TO ROLL INTO OUR CITY TO GET
9:56:16AM US BACK ONLINE WITH OUR ELECTRICITY.
9:56:20AM I REALLY GREATLY APPRECIATE THEM.
9:56:22AM SOME PEOPLE WERE LUCKIER THAN OTHERS.
9:56:23AM SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T LOSE POWER AT ALL.
9:56:27AM SOME PEOPLE WERE OUT FOR TWO DAYS.

9:56:28AM SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL OUT.
9:56:30AM LAST NIGHT, AS OF 10:00 LAST NIGHT, STILL 17,000 PEOPLE THAT
9:56:33AM DID NOT HAVE POWER.
9:56:35AM WE HAVE TO CARE ABOUT THEM, TOO.
9:56:37AM THAT MEANS THEY HAVE BEEN IN THIS A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN
9:56:41AM YOU.
9:56:42AM THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LOST EVERYTHING.
9:56:45AM EVERYTHING THAT THEY OWN AND YET YOUR LIGHTS AREN'T ON.
9:56:50AM IT'S LIKE WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THAT?
9:56:54AM I UNDERSTAND YOU PROVIDE EMPATHY AND YOU HAVE TO BE PATIENT
9:56:59AM IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
9:57:00AM ALSO, THE ONE THING THAT I LEARNED TO DO, ESPECIALLY IN
9:57:04AM LIGHT OF MY MOTHER PASSING AWAY IN JANUARY, YOU HAVE TO
9:57:07AM FORGIVE A LOT OF PEOPLE.
9:57:08AM IN THIS INSTANCE, THAT IS ALSO CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN UPSET
9:57:12AM AND HAVE THROWN THEIR ANGER TOWARD INDIVIDUALS BLAMING
9:57:19AM PEOPLE.
9:57:19AM I FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE HEAT OF THE
9:57:22AM MOMENT THAT ANYTHING CAN BE SAID AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
9:57:25AM MEANT.
9:57:25AM THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I APPRECIATE THE STAFF FOR WHAT THEY
9:57:29AM HAVE DONE TO HELP PULL THE CITY BACK TOGETHER AND STILL WORK
9:57:32AM TO DO.
9:57:33AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:57:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:57:35AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:57:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
9:57:39AM GOOD MORNING FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE CHAMBER AND THOSE
9:57:42AM LISTENING AND ALL THE CITY AND WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH,
9:57:46AM IT'S BEEN A SHARED EXPERIENCE.
9:57:47AM KEEP TELLING PEOPLE THE LAST TWO AND A HALF WEEKS HAVE BEEN
9:57:50AM THE LONGEST YEAR I CAN REMEMBER.
9:57:53AM IT'S BEEN TOUGH ON JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY.
9:57:55AM I ECHO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S PRAISE OF THE INDIVIDUALS
9:58:00AM THAT WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:58:01AM I'M ALWAYS SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN
9:58:05AM IMPRESSED BY HOW, WHEN CHALLENGED, THE EMPLOYEES FROM THE
9:58:11AM DIRECTORS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FOLKS
9:58:14AM THAT ARE ANSWERING PHONES, BALANCING THE BOOKS, PICKING UP
9:58:18AM OUR TRASH, MAKING SURE WE ARE GETTING CLEAN WATER IN THE
9:58:22AM HOUSE, MAKING SURE THE DIRTY WATER IS GETTING TAKEN OUT OF
9:58:25AM THE HOUSE.
9:58:26AM THE CHIEF, THE POLICE, FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY REALLY
9:58:30AM RISES TO THE OCCASION AND MORE SO THAN OTHERS IN THIS
9:58:34AM PARTICULAR EPISODE THAT WE JUST EXPERIENCED.
9:58:36AM I'VE SEEN IT MYSELF WITH MY OWN EYES.
9:58:39AM YOU CAME BEFORE US AND TALKED ABOUT THE GO TEAM THAT CAME.
9:58:44AM I SAW THEM ON THE STREET LIKE 7:00 IN THE MORNING AFTER THE
9:58:50AM STORM.
9:58:51AM THEY WERE EVER PRESENT ASSESSING DAMAGE.

9:58:52AM OUR LAWYERS WERE HELPING VOLUNTEERING IN SHELTERS.
9:58:55AM WE HAD LAWYERS OUT THERE HANDING OUT MEALS AND VOLUNTEERING.
9:59:02AM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
9:59:23AM I HEAR IN SOME OF THIS THAT SOMEHOW THIS IS NOW -- NOW IT'S
9:59:31AM A NEW DAY.
9:59:32AM YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A NEW DAY.
9:59:34AM WE KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
9:59:36AM WE ALL KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
9:59:38AM WE'VE BEEN DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO PREPARE FOR SOME OF IT,
9:59:43AM BUT NOT -- BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING ALL WE CAN DO TO
9:59:47AM PREPARE FOR IT.
9:59:47AM SO I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS THIS COUNCIL, WE SHARE
9:59:55AM BLAME FOR THE THINGS THAT DIDN'T WORK PROPERLY.
9:59:58AM THE ADMINISTRATION SHARES SOME BLAME FOR THE THINGS THAT
10:00:00AM DIDN'T WORK PROPERLY.
10:00:02AM AFTER HELENE, WE ACTUALLY, THIS COUNCIL, WE DIDN'T WAIT
10:00:07AM UNTIL NOW.
10:00:08AM WE ACTUALLY SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ABOUT THIS,
10:00:11AM OF LESSONS LEARNED.
10:00:12AM THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TIME.
10:00:15AM HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE STORMS IN THE
10:00:17AM NEXT FEW MONTHS.
10:00:20AM SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TIME.
10:00:23AM THE WORST THING WE CAN BE IS REACTIONARY.
10:00:27AM WE NEED TO DO SOME DIGGING AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT

10:00:31AM HAPPENED.
10:00:32AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS A COMMON ELEMENT IN A LOT
10:00:36AM -- IN GOVERNMENT AND BEING REPRESENTATIVE IN THE GOVERNMENT
10:00:40AM AND LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS IS YOU SHOULD BE DOING THIS
10:00:42AM AND DOING THAT.
10:00:44AM A LOT OF US KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE SHOULD BE.
10:00:47AM PROBLEM IS WE'RE ONLY BALANCING THE RESOURCES WE HAVE.
10:00:50AM IT IS ATTEMPTING TO FIND THE RESOURCES.
10:00:52AM I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS COUNCIL COMES INTO PLAY AND IT IS
10:00:55AM THE ERRORS AND MISTAKES OF THE COUNCIL OF THE PAST AND SOME
10:00:58AM OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAYBE RIGHT THE SHIP OF WHAT
10:01:01AM OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES ARE IN FUTURE BUDGET CYCLES OF WHERE
10:01:06AM WE PLACE MONEY, HOW WE DEVELOP THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHERE WE
10:01:10AM DEVELOP THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE.
10:01:14AM I THINK THAT WILL BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION TO HAVE AS
10:01:17AM WE MOVE FORWARD AS FAR AS WHAT THE SEVEN OF US HAVE CONTROL
10:01:21AM OVER BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
10:01:24AM LAND DEVELOPMENT, BUDGET, THAT'S OUR BAILIWICK.
10:01:29AM THAT'S US.
10:01:30AM SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF, THE GAS, WE CAN POINT -- WE NEED TO
10:01:36AM HAVE ANSWERS TO THAT.
10:01:37AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:01:37AM I WAS JUST AS FRUSTRATED WITH A THREE-HOUR LINE.
10:01:40AM WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY GAS WASN'T FLOWING INTO THE CITY OF
10:01:44AM TAMPA.

10:01:47AM THE MAYOR DOESN'T CONTROL THAT.
10:01:48AM THE COUNCIL DOESN'T CONTROL THAT.
10:01:49AM THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
10:01:51AM BUT WE NEED TO FIND OUT AND DISCOVER.
10:01:53AM ALL OF OUR GENERATORS, THEY OPERATE ON GAS.
10:01:56AM EVEN THE BEST LAID PLANS OF HAVING GENERATORS, IF WE DON'T
10:02:00AM HAVE GAS, THE GENERATORS ARE JUST EXPENSIVE PIECES OF METAL.
10:02:03AM THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.
10:02:07AM I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
10:02:09AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, MYSELF, OTHERS HERE SUPPORTED THE IDEA.
10:02:12AM I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION IN A COUPLE OF
10:02:14AM MONTHS.
10:02:14AM I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE KNEE-JERK.
10:02:17AM I WANT THIS TO BE VERY ANALYTICAL AND A REALLY SPECIFIC
10:02:21AM PROCESS SO WE MAKE SURE -- THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE FIXED IN
10:02:24AM THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
10:02:26AM THIS WILL BE A LONG-TERM AGENDA OF RESILIENCY OF PROTECTING
10:02:30AM OUR PEOPLE AS WE DEVELOP THE CITY OF TAMPA IN THE FUTURE.
10:02:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ECHO MY COLLEAGUES IN SAYING THANK YOU
10:02:42AM TO THE STAFF FOR DOING THE JOBS THAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR AND
10:02:45AM EVEN MORE.
10:02:45AM IT WAS VERY HEARTENING.
10:02:48AM BUT EVEN MORE SO, THE COMMUNITY.
10:02:51AM THE COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY WHO LIVES HERE DID NOT SIGN UP FOR
10:02:55AM THIS, BUT EVERYWHERE, EVERY SINGLE PLACE I HAVE SEEN

10:03:00AM COMMUNITY HAS COME TOGETHER.
10:03:02AM I JUST RECEIVED MY POWER TEN MINUTES BEFORE I CAME TO THE
10:03:08AM MEETING.
10:03:08AM I LEFT MY HOUSE WITH NO POWER THIS MORNING.
10:03:11AM MY HUSBAND CALLED AND TOLD ME WE GOT IT, WHICH IS WONDERFUL,
10:03:15AM JUST SO THAT FOLKS KNOW, EVERYBODY IS STILL GOING THROUGH
10:03:21AM IT.
10:03:21AM I ALSO ECHO COUNCILMAN VIERA'S NEED FOR AN INDEPENDENT STUDY
10:03:30AM THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE US.
10:03:32AM THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE EMOTION.
10:03:34AM THAT DOES NOT WISH THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT, BUT
10:03:42AM FACTS OF HOW IT CAN BE DIFFERENT GOING FORWARD.
10:03:45AM WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED.
10:03:47AM I MADE THE MOTION RIGHT AFTER HELENE THAT WE GET TOGETHER
10:03:52AM AND HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THINGS WE COULD DO BETTER.
10:03:54AM I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TODAY TO INCLUDE A SWOT ANALYSIS FOR
10:03:59AM ALL DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO.
10:04:01AM STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, AND THREATS.
10:04:04AM IT ALLOWS US TO SEE WHAT WE DID WELL.
10:04:08AM ALLOWS US TO SEE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
10:04:10AM WE ALL HAVE THOSE.
10:04:11AM ALL OF US DO.
10:04:12AM EVERYBODY DOES IN EVERY SITUATION.
10:04:15AM THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS PERFECT.
10:04:16AM SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

10:04:22AM BUT FOR ME, RIGHT NOW, AS WAS MENTIONED, THERE IS TIME FOR
10:04:28AM REVIEW, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL IN RECOVERY.
10:04:31AM THE FACT THAT WE JUST GOT POWER BACK SAYS THERE ARE STILL
10:04:34AM PEOPLE IN THAT RECOVERY PHASE.
10:04:37AM FOR ME, I AM MOST INTERESTED IN THE INFORMATION YOU SHARED
10:04:40AM ABOUT SHARING THE INFORMATION NUMBER DAILY.
10:04:43AM I THINK THAT SATURDAY IS PROBABLY TOO EARLY TO STOP THAT.
10:04:47AM COMFORT STATION INFORMATION DAILY.
10:04:49AM FEMA INFORMATION DAILY.
10:04:51AM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THEY WANT TO KNOW
10:04:53AM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY APPLY FOR FEMA AND THEY GET DENIED.
10:04:57AM THEY KNOW THEY CAN APPEAL BUT HOW DO WE APPEAL.
10:05:00AM IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN CREATE SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEOS,
10:05:03AM VISUALS, THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT I'M LOOKING FOR NOW
10:05:07AM TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
10:05:11AM AND IT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL THAT THERE'S BEEN PUSH FOR SOCIAL.
10:05:14AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BEST, IN MY OPINION, BETWEEN
10:05:17AM HELENE AND MILTON WAS THE FACT THAT CITY COUNCIL GOT THEIR
10:05:23AM INDIVIDUAL COMMUNICATIONS PERSON, CRYSTAL CLARK WAS
10:05:28AM CONNECTED TO US.
10:05:30AM ANSWERED QUESTIONS FOR US.
10:05:31AM ENABLED ME TO GET THE SQUARE IMAGES SO I COULD POST ON BOTH
10:05:37AM BLUE SKY AND INSTAGRAM.
10:05:38AM THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
10:05:39AM THAT QUICK CHANGE WAS GREAT.

10:05:41AM BUT CONTINUING TO PUSH THAT MESSAGE OUT DAILY, NOT STOPPING,
10:05:47AM MAKING SURE FOLKS KNOW WHERE THE COMFORT STATIONS ARE,
10:05:50AM MAKING SURE FOLKS KNOW WE DROPPED SOME BRUSH OFF YESTERDAY
10:05:54AM AT THE 22nd BRUSH SITE.
10:05:56AM WE WERE ONLY THE THIRD PEOPLE THERE.
10:05:58AM 9:30 IN THE MORNING.
10:06:00AM PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT RESOURCE YET.
10:06:02AM MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE OUT TO THE SPACES THEY CAN
10:06:04AM HELP.
10:06:05AM SO, YES, THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME FOR REVIEW.
10:06:08AM I 100% SUPPORT.
10:06:11AM THINGS THAT I DID NOT SUPPORT MONETARILY I THINK WE NEED TO
10:06:14AM REVIEW AND MAKE SURE.
10:06:16AM I DON'T THINK NOW IS THE TIME FOR WEST RIVER WALK.
10:06:19AM I DON'T THINK NOW IS THE TIME FOR SOME OTHER THINGS.
10:06:22AM NOW I WANT TO REVIEW THAT.
10:06:24AM I WANT TO REVIEW WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING.
10:06:26AM IN THE MEANTIME, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE STILL IN RECOVERY.
10:06:29AM THAT IS WHERE I WANT OUR FOCUS TO BE.
10:06:32AM I'M SO PROUD OF OUR STAFF THAT THAT IS WHERE YOUR FOCUS IS
10:06:35AM RIGHT NOW, TOO.
10:06:36AM TUNNEL VISION.
10:06:39AM LET'S CONTINUE THAT.
10:06:39AM LET'S NOT STOP SATURDAY.
10:06:43AM LET'S CONTINUE FEMA INFORMATION.

10:06:44AM THAT IS WHAT I'M HEARING NOW.
10:06:46AM FEMA, FEMA, FEMA.
10:06:47AM HOW DO WE GET RECOVERY FOR FOLKS WHO ARE WITHOUT POWER AT
10:06:50AM THE VERY LEAST RECOVERING THEIR REFRIGERATE.
10:06:58AM IF THERE'S RUMOR CONTROL.
10:07:00AM WHATEVER IT IS, LET'S GET THAT OUT THERE SO FOLKS KNOW.
10:07:03AM I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THE THING I AM MOST PROUD OF IS OUR
10:07:09AM COMMUNITY FOR COMING TOGETHER.
10:07:10AM DIDN'T MATTER WHERE YOU WERE.
10:07:12AM SAW IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SAW IT PERSONALLY.
10:07:15AM WE TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES AND GOVERNMENT COMES INTO HELP BUT
10:07:19AM ULTIMATELY WE ALL HELPED EACH OTHER.
10:07:22AM I WANT TO SAY I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR CITIZENS FOR HELPING.
10:07:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:07:27AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:07:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE AUTOMATICALLY GET SEVEN MINUTES?
10:07:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIVE.
10:07:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK FOR THE SAME
10:07:36AM COUNCILMAN VIERA GOT.
10:07:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
10:07:38AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:07:38AM AYE.
10:07:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:07:40AM MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID A LOT OF THINGS.
10:07:42AM THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE STAFF.

10:07:43AM YOU ALL DID GIVE UP YOUR FAMILIES.
10:07:45AM EVEN SENIOR LEADERSHIP LOST THEIR HOMES AND COMMUNICATING
10:07:49AM WITH US REGULARLY EVEN OUT OF WHEREVER THEY WERE LOCATED.
10:07:54AM THINKING ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES, THINKING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE
10:07:56AM IN THE COMMUNITY THAT LOST EVERYTHING.
10:07:59AM WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING HARD ALSO.
10:08:02AM WE SUFFERED SOME OF THE SAME THINGS -- HURTAK JUST GOT HER
10:08:07AM POWER ON.
10:08:08AM BUT IT'S NOTHING LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR HOUSES AND
10:08:12AM LOST EVERYTHING THEY HAVE.
10:08:14AM WE GRIEVE WITH YOU ALL.
10:08:16AM IN PARTICULAR THANK THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:08:18AM I COMPLAINED IN THE PAST ABOUT HURRICANES WHERE WE WERE NOT
10:08:21AM COMMUNICATED WITH EFFECTIVELY.
10:08:23AM CHIEF OF STAFF TALKED TO ME BY TEXT OR PHONE ALMOST HOURLY
10:08:27AM THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
10:08:28AM COMMUNICATION PERSON ASSIGNED TO US FROM A COMMUNICATION
10:08:31AM THAT HE AND I HAD.
10:08:32AM I APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS HE DID.
10:08:34AM THE RESULTS OF WHAT HAPPENED, CONSTITUENTS WOULD ASK FOR
10:08:36AM SOMETHING, I WOULD TELL HIM AND WITHIN AN HOUR A LOT OF
10:08:39AM TIMES THERE WAS A RESPONSE.
10:08:41AM THAT WAS FANTASTIC.
10:08:41AM THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT BACKED HIM UP.
10:08:43AM I COVER SOUTH TAMPA.

10:08:45AM MY DISTRICT IS MOSTLY EVACUATION A.
10:08:47AM PEOPLE HAD TO LEAVE.
10:08:49AM IT HAD THE MOST DAMAGE.
10:08:50AM MOST OF THE AREAS THAT WERE DAMAGED.
10:08:52AM WE'VE HAD TWO HURRICANES.
10:08:55AM WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS AND WE WILL BE IN THE
10:08:58AM WORKSHOPS BUT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS NOW.
10:09:01AM I'LL JUST HIT SOME HIGH POINTS OF SOME OF THEM.
10:09:04AM IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE HAD A PLAN TO DEAL WITH HURRICANES BUT
10:09:08AM NOT ONES WITH DEVASTATING IMPACT.
10:09:10AM WE NEED A RECOVERY PLAN AND THAT'S COMMUNICATION AND ACTION
10:09:13AM THAT KICKS IN IMMEDIATELY WHEN A HURRICANE IS DONE.
10:09:16AM TWO WEEKS LATER, STILL TOO MANY PEOPLE SUFFERING -- MORE
10:09:20AM THAN TWO WEEKS LATER, PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM HELENE.
10:09:23AM WE NEED TO RESPOND MORE QUICKLY.
10:09:25AM I'LL ASK FOR US TO CREATE A ROBUST RECOVERY PLAN.
10:09:28AM YES, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE WORST STORM IN A HUNDRED YEARS,
10:09:31AM BUT IT MAY COME AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND WE NEED TO BE PREPARED
10:09:35AM FOR IT.
10:09:35AM BACK IN 2016, CONTROVERSIAL TAX PASSED CALLED THE BUCKHORN
10:09:40AM TAX, STORMWATER TAX AND BASED ON A STORMWATER PLAN.
10:09:44AM OBVIOUSLY THAT STORMWATER PLAN FAILED.
10:09:46AM MOST OF THE STORMWATER PLAN WAS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:09:48AM STORMWATER PLAN COMPLETELY FAILED.
10:09:50AM AREAS IN THE CITY THAT FLOODED, FLASH FLOODS FOR THE FIRST

10:09:53AM TIME EVER.
10:09:54AM YES, CONDITIONS CHANGED.
10:09:56AM ARMENIA AVENUE WAS RESURFACED AND THAT MIGHT HAVE CHANGED
10:09:59AM CONDITIONS.
10:09:59AM THAT PLAN DID NOT WORK.
10:10:01AM IT WAS A COMPLETE FAILURE.
10:10:03AM WE NEED TO REDO THE STORMWATER PLAN.
10:10:06AM ABSOLUTE NEW STORMWATER PLAN --
10:10:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:10:09AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:10:10AM WE NEED A NEW STORMWATER PLAN THAT LOOKS AT THE HYDROLOGY OF
10:10:17AM THE CITY.
10:10:17AM WHY PEOPLE AT 21 FEET HAD 18 INCHES OF FLOODING.
10:10:20AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:10:21AM WE NEED TO USE THINGS LIKE LiDAR.
10:10:26AM BY THE WAY, THE MONEY IS THERE.
10:10:28AM TAX WAS PASSED.
10:10:29AM JUST NOT SPENDING IT CORRECTLY.
10:10:30AM WHY SOME PUMPS FAILED?
10:10:32AM WASN'T BECAUSE OF THE GENERATORS.
10:10:34AM IT WAS BECAUSE THE PIPES THAT PUSH THE WATER OUT INTO THE
10:10:37AM BAY OR WHEREVER WAS INUNDATED WITH WATER.
10:10:42AM THAT SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK.
10:10:43AM IT WAS BUILT ON AN OLD IDEA.
10:10:44AM IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

10:10:46AM WE NEED GENERATORS BUT HOW CAN YOU -- GENERATOR CAN'T PUMP
10:10:50AM WATER IF THE PIPE IS UNDERWATER.
10:10:52AM THE MAYOR HIRED A FIRST SUSTAINABLE OFFICER FOUR YEARS AGO
10:10:56AM AT THE REQUEST OF JOHN DINGFELDER AND OTHERS ON THE BOARD
10:10:59AM AND ASKED FOR ALL KIND OF SOLUTIONS AND WE THOUGHT THINGS
10:11:03AM WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
10:11:05AM THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, VERY WELL QUALIFIED, HE MOSTLY
10:11:08AM WORKED ON TOILET TO TAP.
10:11:10AM COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.
10:11:11AM SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ISSUES THAT WOULD HAVE RESOLVED
10:11:13AM THIS.
10:11:14AM THE DEBRIS CLEANUP, THE TEAM THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON IT HAS
10:11:17AM BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD.
10:11:19AM THE THING I'VE BEEN TELLING STAFF, WE NEED TRANSPARENCY AND
10:11:22AM WHEN PEOPLE'S DEBRIS WOULD BE PICKED UP.
10:11:25AM BEEN OUT HERE TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO
10:11:28AM CLEAN UP?
10:11:28AM WE NEED COMMUNICATION ON THAT.
10:11:30AM THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE TRUCK, THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T
10:11:33AM HAVE TRUCKS IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO PAY ENOUGH.
10:11:35AM WE SHOULD HAVE HAD TRUCKS FROM GEORGIA, ALABAMA, PAID
10:11:38AM WHATEVER IT TAKES BECAUSE FEMA IS REIMBURSING US.
10:11:41AM I SAID TO ADMINISTRATION, WHOSE FAULT, FEMA FOR NOT
10:11:45AM REIMBURSING OR THE CITY FOR NOT HIRING?
10:11:48AM WHY PEOPLE WAIT THREE, FOUR HOURS FOR SANDBAGS ON SUNDAY

10:11:52AM BEFORE MILTON?
10:11:53AM TRUTH IS, DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SAND.
10:11:56AM GUDES AND I PUSHED FOR SANDBAGGING MACHINES SO RETIREES
10:12:00AM WOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT AND SHOVEL SAND IN THE HEAT.
10:12:02AM GUESS WHAT, ALL DAY SUNDAY BEFORE MILTON THAT'S WHAT WE MADE
10:12:06AM THEM DO WHILE TERRIFIED ABOUT THE HURRICANE HITTING.
10:12:09AM DID WANT TURN ON THE SANDBAG MACHINES -- DIDN'T TURN THE
10:12:13AM SANDBAG MACHINES UNTIL 5:00.
10:12:15AM WE SHOULD HAVE SET UP MORE CENTERS.
10:12:19AM RAN OUT OF TARPS, FOOD AND WATER.
10:12:21AM CITY'S FAULT?
10:12:21AM FEMA'S FAULT?
10:12:23AM WHO DID THAT?
10:12:24AM WHY DID WE RUN OUT? COMMUNICATION WAS A COMPLETE FAILURE.
10:12:29AM I PRINTED ALL THE Facebook, ALL THE TWITTER.
10:12:32AM PEOPLE HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS KIND OF SURGE WAS GOING TO COME
10:12:36AM IN.
10:12:36AM I CAN GO BACK OBJECTIVELY AND SHOW YOU THE COMMUNICATION DID
10:12:39AM NOT ADEQUATELY WARN PEOPLE.
10:12:42AM WE WERE USING THE SAME MESSAGES.
10:12:45AM SURE, WIND AND SURGE, BUT NOBODY SAID EIGHT FEET OF WATER IN
10:12:48AM THE HOUSE.
10:12:49AM IT WAS A COMPLETE MISTAKE.
10:12:52AM ALSO COMMUNICATION DID NOT PIVOT TO RECOVERY.
10:12:56AM I TALKED TO SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEY SAID WE

10:12:59AM ARE POSTING INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
10:13:01AM I SAID WHERE ARE YOU POSTING IT?
10:13:02AM SAID POSTING ON INDIVIDUAL Facebook PAGES.
10:13:05AM NOBODY IN COMMUNICATION WAS AGGREGATING IT ON THE CITY'S
10:13:08AM Facebook OR TWITTER PAGE.
10:13:10AM HOW WAS ANYBODY SUPPOSED TO NOW ABOUT THAT?
10:13:12AM BASIC THING OF COMMUNICATION IS TO AGGREGATE AND NOBODY WAS
10:13:16AM DOING IT.
10:13:16AM THE OTHER THING IS ABOUT COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION.
10:13:19AM MOST OF US ARE ON THE MEDIA LIST OF THE CITY SO WE GET THE
10:13:22AM PRESS RELEASES.
10:13:23AM IN P R-10 1, THE FIRST THING YOU DO BEFORE YOU SEND OUT A
10:13:27AM PRESS RELEASE, CALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, NOT EVEN IN SAME
10:13:31AM GOVERNMENT BUT OUTSIDE, HEY, WE'LL HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE.
10:13:34AM WE FIND OUT ABOUT PRESS CONFERENCES BECAUSE WE HAPPEN TO BE
10:13:36AM ON THE MEDIA LIST NOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY INVITED US AND MY
10:13:39AM DISTRICT WAS THE HARDEST HIT.
10:13:41AM THE OTHER THING IS FEMA, WE HAVE PEOPLE CRYING IN TEARS
10:13:46AM BECAUSE FEMA WILL NOT HELP THEM.
10:13:48AM WEBSITE DOESN'T WORK.
10:13:49AM FEMA'S ANSWER IS IF YOU GET REJECTED FIRST TIME, APPLY
10:13:53AM AGAIN.
10:13:54AM PEOPLE WITH NO POWER, APPLYING ONLINE, DOESN'T WORK.
10:13:57AM APPLY A SECOND TIME AND WAIT FOUR HOURS ON THE PHONE AND
10:14:01AM FIND OUT THEY MADE A MINOR MISTAKE.

10:14:03AM HUGE LINES NOW FOR THE STATION JUST SET UP.
10:14:06AM FEMA IS A COMPLETE FAILURE.
10:14:08AM WHAT FEMA HAS DONE, THE DIRECTOR, WHO CAME HERE AND MET WITH
10:14:12AM ONE COUNCIL MAYOR, FEDERAL LOBBYIST, NOT WITH CITY COUNCIL
10:14:16AM AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, DIDN'T COME ON THE GROUND IN
10:14:19AM TAMPA.
10:14:19AM SHE TURNED IT INTO A PARTISAN WAR AND SHE'S CONVINCING
10:14:23AM PEOPLE TO ATTACK BY LEADING A MAGA WAR AGAINST TRUMP.
10:14:26AM LEADING ATTACK TO FIGHT POOR PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR HOUSES
10:14:31AM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE CALL CENTER AND THE
10:14:34AM WEBSITE.
10:14:34AM IT'S TERRIBLE.
10:14:35AM FEMA NEEDS TO STEP UP.
10:14:37AM ALSO, IF GETTING MONEY FROM FEMA, WHO IS SIGNING THE
10:14:39AM CONTRACTS?
10:14:40AM IS THE MAYOR GOING TO HAVE US APPROVE IT?
10:14:42AM WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT?
10:14:43AM LASTLY, THIS IS ABOUT -- PART OF THIS PROBLEM IS ABOUT THE
10:14:47AM EDIFICE COMPLEX TAMPA HAS.
10:14:49AM CAN'T FOCUS ON BUILDINGS.
10:14:51AM FOCUS ON PEOPLE AND PROTECTING PEOPLE.
10:14:53AM THANK YOU.
10:14:53AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:14:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:00AM THANK YOU TO ALL THE CITY STAFF AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS

10:15:03AM WORKING TOGETHER AROUND THE CLOCK.
10:15:05AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:15:06AM THIS IS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING.
10:15:08AM THANK YOU, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:15:10AM THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
10:15:11AM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT, BUT YOU'RE NEVER READY FOR
10:15:15AM SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
10:15:16AM TWO DAYS -- THE NIGHT BEFORE THE HURRICANE, I HEARD
10:15:19AM KATRINA-LIKE SITUATION.
10:15:21AM I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, IT'S OVER.
10:15:22AM IT'S DONE.
10:15:23AM HOW DO YOU BEAT THAT.
10:15:24AM I REMEMBER KATRINA ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO AND WHAT HAPPENED IN
10:15:29AM NEW ORLEANS.
10:15:29AM IF WE WERE GOING TO GET A DIRECT, DIRECT HIT, WE WOULDN'T BE
10:15:33AM HERE.
10:15:34AM I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
10:15:36AM EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.
10:15:40AM I LOOK FORWARD TO THE STORM WORKSHOP.
10:15:42AM WE NEED TO BECOME MORE RESILIENT.
10:15:44AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN'T BEAT MOTHER NATURE.
10:15:46AM I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU LIVE.
10:15:49AM YOU GET A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE, IT'S DONE.
10:15:52AM I'VE SEEN THE SIMULATIONS, SEEN WHAT IT'S DONE IN OTHER
10:15:55AM AREAS.

10:15:55AM YOU CAN'T BEAT IT.
10:15:56AM IT DOESN'T MATTER.
10:15:57AM BUT AT THE VERY LEAST WE CAN PROTECT OURSELVES WITH
10:16:02AM INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE, IN STORMWATER, IN PUBLIC
10:16:05AM SAFETY BECAUSE YOU'RE OUT THERE.
10:16:07AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUING PEOPLE.
10:16:12AM RESCUING PEOPLE FROM HOUSES, PEOPLE ON CANOES AND BOATS.
10:16:15AM IT'S BEEN A HUGE UNDERTAKING AND HUGE COMMUNITY EFFORT.
10:16:21AM I'LL STOP THERE AND GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS MS. ZELMAN
10:16:26AM WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:16:27AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ONE POINT COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP, IT
10:16:31AM IS NOT ACCURATE THAT THE CITY WASN'T ENGAGING IN CONTRACTS
10:16:34AM TO GET ADDITIONAL DEBRIS REMOVAL CONTRACTORS.
10:16:39AM WE HAD THOSE IN PLACE FOR HELENE.
10:16:43AM IF YOU RECALL, HELENE WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO NORTH CAROLINA
10:16:46AM AND EVERY COMMUNITY THAT WAS IMPACTED BY HELENE, THEY
10:16:53AM ENGAGED THIS BIDDING WAR WHERE WE HAD CONTRACTORS LITERALLY
10:16:56AM STOLEN FROM US.
10:16:56AM PEOPLE WERE OVERPAYING THEM.
10:16:58AM THEY WERE NOT SHOWING UP HERE AND THEY WERE GOING TO OTHER
10:17:02AM COMMUNITIES, OTHER STATES, WHATEVER.
10:17:04AM DEANNA FAGGART AND OUR OFFICE WORKED TO GET OTHER
10:17:11AM CONTRACTORS.
10:17:12AM ONGOING THING.
10:17:13AM WE ONLY RECENTLY FINALLY GOT MORE BECAUSE BASICALLY EVERYONE

10:17:17AM IN THE STATE IS NOW PAYING WAY OVER WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY
10:17:21AM CONTRACTED WITH THESE CONTRACTORS FOR, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT
10:17:25AM FEMA WILL REIMBURSE US BECAUSE EVEN THE STATE IS PAYING WAY
10:17:30AM MORE THAN THEY WERE PAYING.
10:17:31AM WE WERE HEARING STORIES ABOUT LITERALLY PEOPLE IN MOTEL
10:17:34AM ROOMS THAT WERE CONTRACTORS, PEOPLE KNOCKING AT THEIR DOOR
10:17:38AM AND OFFERING THEM MORE MONEY TO GO ELSEWHERE.
10:17:40AM THAT IS WHAT THE CITY WAS HAVING TO DEAL WITH AS WELL AS
10:17:45AM EVERY OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT BETWEEN HERE AND NORTH
10:17:47AM CAROLINA.
10:17:48AM IT WAS JUST A CRAZY BIDDING WAR.
10:17:50AM IT WAS NO FAILURE ON OUR PART.
10:17:53AM WE WERE WORKING TO GET THOSE ADDITIONAL DEBRIS REMOVAL
10:17:56AM CONTRACTORS AND HAVE NOW SECURED THEM.
10:17:59AM BUT IT WASN'T EASY.
10:18:00AM I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
10:18:02AM IF I MAY, I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH FEMA BUT AS A FELLOW
10:18:08AM GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE, I WOULD ASK, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM
10:18:13AM CRITICIZING GOVERNMENT WORKERS.
10:18:17AM AGAIN, FEMA FROM HERE TO NORTH CAROLINA, THEY HAVE GOT
10:18:19AM PEOPLE WORKING.
10:18:20AM THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES ARE BEING THREATENED BECAUSE OF
10:18:24AM WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO, AND IT DOESN'T HELP FOR US TO
10:18:28AM SAY DEROGATORY THINGS ABOUT THEM IN THIS MOMENT.
10:18:32AM WE CAN EXAMINE IT LATER.

10:18:34AM I'M SURE THEY ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THEY COULD DO DIFFERENTLY,
10:18:37AM BUT REALLY, AS A FELLOW GOVERNMENT WORKER, I'M JUST SAYING,
10:18:41AM PLEASE, REFRAIN FROM SAYING THOSE KIND OF THINGS PUBLICLY
10:18:44AM BECAUSE PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE LITERALLY BEING THREATENED.
10:18:49AM I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATIONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT WANT RELIEF
10:18:53AM FROM FEMA.
10:18:55AM THERE'S FEMA DISASTER RELIEF.
10:18:57AM FEMA FLOOD INSURANCE.
10:18:58AM I KNOW THEY ARE ALL WORKING, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP TO BE
10:19:02AM SAYING INFLAMMATORY THINGS ABOUT THEM.
10:19:04AM ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO POINTS.
10:19:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. ZELMAN, YOU KNOW I HAVE THE UTMOST
10:19:11AM RESPECT FOR YOU BUT YOU ARE THE CITY ATTORNEY.
10:19:13AM I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO LEGAL ISSUES.
10:19:18AM I KNOW YOU HAVE AN OPINION AND MY OPINION IS DIFFERENT.
10:19:21AM I DON'T THINK I SAID THAT THE CITY WASN'T TRYING TO GET
10:19:25AM CONTRACTS, BUT IT'S CLEAR WE --
10:19:28AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YOU SAID WE FAILED.
10:19:30AM I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU WE WERE WORKING.
10:19:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: -- THE TRASH IS STILL OUT THERE.
10:19:35AM ESPECIALLY IF FEMA -- I'M NOT ASKING FOR LEGAL ADVICE.
10:19:39AM I'M JUST RESPONDING TO YOU.
10:19:42AM NO DISRESPECT IN THAT.
10:19:43AM I KNOW YOU ARE VERY INVOLVED AND VERY -- I'M JUST SAYING.
10:19:47AM THE ISSUE IS WE FAILED TO GET THEM.

10:19:50AM WE'RE A BIG CITY.
10:19:51AM WE PAY I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IN THE STATE FOR OUR POLICE
10:19:54AM OFFICERS.
10:19:54AM WE ARE KNOWN FOR PAYING WELL.
10:19:58AM WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THE TRUCKS.
10:20:00AM HAZARD TO PEOPLE DEALING WITH IT.
10:20:02AM STILL A HAZARD TO PEOPLE DEALING WITH IT AND SHOULD HAVE
10:20:04AM BEEN A BETTER MECHANISM FOR FINDING TRUCKS.
10:20:07AM IT WAS UNACCEPTABLE.
10:20:08AM CITY NEW ON FRIDAY BEFORE MILTON THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO
10:20:11AM BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE DEBRIS.
10:20:13AM I BEGGED CHIEF OF STAFF TO HAVE COMMUNICATION, TELL PEOPLE
10:20:16AM THAT SO PEOPLE COULD FIND THEIR OWN CONTRACTORS AND THE CITY
10:20:19AM DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY UNTIL 4:30 ON WEDNESDAY.
10:20:22AM THAT'S DESPICABLE.
10:20:23AM THEY SHOULD PUT A TARP.
10:20:24AM PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE.
10:20:26AM SHOULD HAVE SAID MIGHT NOT GET TO YOU SO YOU REALLY SHOULD
10:20:29AM FIND A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR AND REALLY SHOULD REIMBURSE THEM
10:20:32AM AS WELL.
10:20:33AM AS FEMA, THE ISSUE IS THIS PARTISAN WAR -- I'M A DEMOCRAT,
10:20:37AM BY THE WAY -- THE PARTISAN WAR IS BEING LED BY FEMA WHERE
10:20:41AM THEY ARE FIGHTING POOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR HOUSES.
10:20:45AM GO ONLINE AND LOOK, WHEN POOR PEOPLE HAVE TO APPLY TWICE TO
10:20:49AM FEMA AND CAN'T GET MONEY BECAUSE THEY ARE REJECTED, SITE

10:20:53AM DOESN'T WORK, CALL CENTER LONG, AND THEY ARE SLAMMED FOR
10:20:59AM MAGA RADICALS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PARTY AFFILIATION
10:21:02AM IS.
10:21:02AM DESPICABLE THAT FEMA IS ENGAGED IN DIRTY POLITICS.
10:21:06AM LIKE I ASKED THEM TO DO, FIX THEIR WEBSITE AND APOLOGIZE TO
10:21:10AM PEOPLE FOR MORE THEY ARE DOING.
10:21:11AM FEMA, AGAIN, MY DISTRICT HARDEST HIT.
10:21:14AM FEMA DIDN'T CONTACT ME UNTIL TUESDAY, TWO WEEKS AFTER HELENE
10:21:19AM AND A WEEK AFTER MILTON.
10:21:20AM THEY FLEW IN, HAPPY TO COLLABORATE, THREE HOURS AFTER I MET
10:21:25AM THEM, THEY OPEN UP THEIR FIRST OFFICE, THEY DIDN'T EVEN TELL
10:21:28AM ME ABOUT IT THAT MORNING.
10:21:30AM CITY DIDN'T TELL ME ABOUT IT.
10:21:32AM I FOUND OUT ON THE CITY'S TWITTER ACCOUNT.
10:21:35AM BETTER COORDINATION.
10:21:37AM LIKE I TOLD THE CHIEF OF STAFF, I'M DRIVING INTO A
10:21:41AM NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE 20 PEOPLE WILL YELL AT ME AT LEAST HALF
10:21:44AM AN HOUR.
10:21:45AM I UNDERSTAND WHY.
10:21:45AM HOUSES FLOODED.
10:21:47AM ALL THEIR LIFE GOODS ON THE STREET.
10:21:50AM I NEED THE CITY TO WORK WITH ME BECAUSE I HAVE NO CONTROL
10:21:52AM HOW TO CLEAN THIS UP AND FIX THE PROBLEMS.
10:21:55AM WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
10:21:56AM WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINE, MEETING WITH PEOPLE LISTENING TO

10:21:59AM PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP THEM.
10:22:00AM WE NEED THE ADMINISTRATION TO COLLABORATE.
10:22:02AM WE NEED FEMA TO COLLABORATE WITH US AND SO FAR THEY ARE NOT.
10:22:06AM THE ADMINISTRATION IS COLLABORATING BUT NEED IT ON A HIGHER
10:22:08AM DEGREE.
10:22:13AM FEMA IS NOT --
10:22:15AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IF I COULD --
10:22:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
10:22:19AM LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:22:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: 45 SECONDS.
10:22:23AM I'LL SAY THIS.
10:22:23AM THE CONVERSATION YOU JUST SAW RIGHT NOW, I'VE HAD THEM
10:22:28AM BEHIND THE SCENES WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, OVER THE LAST FEW
10:22:30AM DAYS MUCH WORSE.
10:22:33AM I AM VERY ANGRY RIGHT NOW.
10:22:34AM I AM.
10:22:35AM I AM.
10:22:35AM BUT I'M FOCUSED ON SOLUTIONS.
10:22:38AM I'M FOCUSED ON SOLUTIONS AND MOVING FORWARD, FINDING OUT
10:22:41AM WHAT WENT WRONG IN THE PAST, RIGHT, IF ANYTHING.
10:22:45AM FINDING THAT OUT.
10:22:46AM I'M COMMITTED -- COMMITTED.
10:22:48AM I TOLD SOMEBODY A FEW DAYS AGO THEY TRIED TO TALK ME OUT OF
10:22:51AM AN IDEA, I SAID I AM RIGHT NOW A VERY HOT CUBAN AND YOU PUT
10:22:56AM A TINY THIRD OF A PIECE OF ICE IN IT.

10:23:00AM IT IS STILL VERY HOT.
10:23:02AM THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING.
10:23:03AM WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LOST EVERYTHING.
10:23:05AM I WANT TO COMMIT TO THEM RESULTS.
10:23:08AM RESULTS.
10:23:08AM THIS IS NOT -- I COULD GO FOREVER.
10:23:11AM LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD.
10:23:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:13AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH IS THE ONLY REGISTERED COMMENT AND THEN
10:23:17AM WE'LL GO TO THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
10:23:19AM MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO
10:23:22AM AHEAD.
10:23:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:23:25AM SO GOD BE TO THE GLORY.
10:23:31AM NORMALLY WHEN I'M ON HERE, I UPDATE ABOUT PROGRAMS AND
10:23:37AM PROJECTS.
10:23:37AM BUT TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND TO LET THE
10:23:43AM NATION KNOW HOW PEOPLE IN TAMPA STOOD UP.
10:23:55AM ORDINARY PEOPLE DID EXTRAORDINARY THINGS TO HELP EACH OTHER.
10:24:02AM CAME TOGETHER FOR ONE PURPOSE TO HELP EACH OTHER.
10:24:09AM GOES OUT TO THOSE WHO HAVE LOST EVERYTHING AND IN SOME CASES
10:24:14AM LOST THEIR LIVES.
10:24:15AM I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M PROUD OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO
10:24:20AM WERE ON THE GROUND HELPING PEOPLE FOR POSTING WHERE
10:24:26AM RESIDENTS CAN GET HELP FROM.

10:24:27AM A SPECIAL SHOUT-OUT TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON BECAUSE -- THAT
10:24:35AM THE WATER IN TAMPA WAS GOING TO BE CUT OFF.
10:24:37AM HE STRAIGHTENED OUT THAT MYTH AND I WAS ABLE TO SHARE THAT
10:24:40AM WITH MY LARGE FOLLOWING ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
10:24:43AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:24:44AM I ALSO WANT TO GIVE -- TO THE MAYOR WHO DID HER PART ON THE
10:24:53AM GROUND.
10:24:53AM AND I'M DEFINITELY KEEP ONE THING IN MIND, LEAVE OR DIE.
10:24:59AM I ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVE, COMMISSIONER MYERS
10:25:04AM AND CONGRESSIONAL LEADER CASTOR FOR WHAT SHE DID.
10:25:08AM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION TAMPA HOUSING
10:25:10AM AUTHORITY THAT WENT DOOR TO DOOR IN ROBLES PARK TO MAKE SURE
10:25:17AM PEOPLE GOT THE NECESSARY ITEMS.
10:25:19AM SHOUT-OUT TO LEROY MOORE.
10:25:20AM THE RECOVERY HEAD IS GOING TO BE PAINFUL.
10:25:25AM INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS, REDUCTION IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:25:34AM WE ARE TAMPA STRONG AND CAN MAKE IT THROUGH ANYTHING.
10:25:37AM THIS IS AND WILL BE A LESSON LEARNED.
10:25:40AM AS IT RELATES TO FEMA, THEY REJECTED ME.
10:25:45AM I'M STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO CORRECT THAT PROBLEM.
10:25:48AM AS A WHOLE, TAMPA STANDS STRONG.
10:25:53AM THANK YOU EVERYBODY IN TAMPA FOR DOING THEIR PART.
10:25:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:59AM OUR FIRST SPEAKER IN THE ROOM IS SHAWN WILSON, CONNIE
10:26:02AM BURTON, AND ELIZABETH ARCADIO IS WHAT I SEE.

10:26:08AM YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
10:26:09AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:26:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:26:10AM SHAWN WILSON, PRESIDENT OF BLUE SKY COMMUNITIES WITH OFFICES
10:26:14AM AT 180 FOUNTAIN PARK WAY NORTH IN ST. PETERSBURG.
10:26:16AM GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:26:22AM I'M HERE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS, I THINK.
10:26:25AM OUR ADDERLEY AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY ON NORTH NEBRASKA,
10:26:29AM JUST NORTH OF BUSCH IS OPEN.
10:26:33AM WE'VE GOT ABOUT 40 RESIDENTS IN AND MOVING A FEW PEOPLE IN
10:26:37AM EVERY DAY ON OUR WAY TO A FULL OCCUPANCY WHICH WILL BE 128
10:26:42AM HARDWORKING FAMILIES.
10:26:45AM AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY AND
10:26:49AM CELEBRATION SCHEDULED THAT HAD TO GET POSTPONED, BUT WE HAD
10:26:52AM IT RESCHEDULED.
10:26:53AM I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS RECEIVED INVITATIONS.
10:26:56AM IF NOT, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE.
10:26:59AM WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD THAT ARE ALREADY
10:27:02AM CONFIRMED.
10:27:03AM WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE LET YOU KNOW WHEN THAT IS AND
10:27:05AM HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BE THERE.
10:27:08AM THE ADDERLEY PHASE TWO IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
10:27:11AM THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
10:27:16AM THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 39.
10:27:18AM I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A LOAN.

10:27:22AM THAT IS A LOAN THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GET PREPAID.
10:27:26AM AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF ALSO AND RECOGNIZE THAT STAFF IS
10:27:32AM UTILIZING A FINANCING MECHANISM THAT IS NOT GENERAL REVENUE.
10:27:38AM IT'S NOT JUST TAKING STATE MONEY.
10:27:41AM NOT JUST TAKING FEDERAL MONEY, AND IT'S A FINANCING
10:27:45AM MECHANISM INVOLVING BONDS THAT IS TRIED AND TRUE.
10:27:48AM OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE USED IT VERY SUCCESSFULLY IN
10:27:51AM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
10:27:54AM AND I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:27:56AM AGAIN, THAT'S ITEM 39.
10:27:57AM I HOPE YOU'LL APPROVE IT.
10:28:00AM ADDERLEY PHASE TWO IS GOING TO BE 100 UNITS AND THAT'S GOING
10:28:03AM TO BE FOR SENIORS AND, OF COURSE, ALL OF THE UNITS THAT BLUE
10:28:07AM SKY PRODUCES ARE FOR EITHER 30% AMI, 60% AMI, OR 80% AMI.
10:28:16AM SO WE'RE SERVING TRULY THE LOW-INCOME PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF
10:28:20AM TAMPA.
10:28:20AM I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
10:28:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:23AM CONNIE BURTON, ELIZABETH ARCADIO.
10:28:28AM YES, MA'AM.
10:28:28AM GOOD MORNING.
10:28:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:28:30AM PEACE AND BLESSINGS.
10:28:32AM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AS YOU LAID OUT, THAT WE START
10:28:36AM TALKING ABOUT THE PREPARATION FOR 2025, BECAUSE JUST AS SURE

10:28:41AM AS WE ALL STAND LIVING, HURRICANE SEASON WILL COME BACK
10:28:46AM AGAIN.
10:28:46AM THE LESSONS THAT HAS NOT BEEN LEARNED IS THE CONSTANT WAY IN
10:28:51AM WHICH THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE APPROVED FOR HOUSING THAT
10:28:58AM COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA JUST LAID OUT IS NOTWITHSTANDING
10:29:02AM ANY OF THESE HURRICANES.
10:29:04AM WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LEARNED ALMOST
10:29:09AM SIX YEARS AGO WHEN COUNCILMAN REDDICK WAS THERE.
10:29:13AM WE TALKED ABOUT CONTAINER HOMES.
10:29:14AM IF YOU GO RIGHT OVER ON PLYMOUTH AND TAMPA STREET, YOU'LL
10:29:19AM SEE A BEAUTIFUL CONTAINER HOME THERE STANDING.
10:29:23AM IF YOU GO THROUGH ROBLES PARK VILLAGE WHERE I RESIDED DURING
10:29:29AM HURRICANE MILTON, THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN SOLD.
10:29:33AM THE PROPERTY IS STILL STANDING.
10:29:35AM THOSE TYPE OF LESSONS YOU HAVE NOT LEARNED BECAUSE
10:29:39AM DEVELOPERS THAT WANTS TO ALWAYS PROJECT THE SHINY OBJECTS TO
10:29:44AM THE CITY IS THE FIRST THING YOU JUMP ON.
10:29:47AM IN TERMS OF THE APPRENTICE PROGRAMS, IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE
10:29:51AM ISSUES GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND YOU CANNOT GET
10:29:55AM VENDORS TO COME IN, YOU HAVE A WEALTH OF UNTRAINED YOUNG
10:30:01AM PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE MOVED TOWARD APPRENTICE PROGRAMS.
10:30:06AM HOW MUCH TRAINING DID YOU NEED TO HAVE TO PICK UP TRASH?
10:30:10AM ALL OF THIS IGNORE WHAT YOU HAVE IS GOING TO BE COSTLY TO
10:30:15AM YOU AS THESE MOTHER NATURE CONTINUE TO EACH US LESSONS.
10:30:23AM ITEMS 13 TO 25, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT NEW SOLUTIONS IN

10:30:28AM TERMS OF NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PAST.
10:30:34AM AND I AM TOO SO ANGRY THAT AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE LOW-INCOME
10:30:40AM PEOPLE, THAT DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES, THAT HAVE LOST
10:30:44AM EVERYTHING IS NOW BEING ASKED TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS, CALL
10:30:48AM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT PEOPLE IS NOT ANSWERING CALLS.
10:30:51AM NO, THIS CITY NEED TO HAVE A DOOR-TO-DOOR CAMPAIGN WHERE YOU
10:30:55AM KNOCK AND SEE HOW THIS CITY CAN HELP PEOPLE MAKE THE
10:31:00AM CONNECTIONS TO THE NEEDED PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE.
10:31:03AM BECAUSE ELECTIONS WILL BE COSTLY.
10:31:06AM THANK YOU.
10:31:08AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:31:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:11AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:31:11AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:15AM >> MY LEGAL NAME IS ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE, BUT MY MARRIED NAME
10:31:18AM IS LIZ ARCADIO.
10:31:23AM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD I GO BY LIZ ARCADIO, BUT MY ID WOULD SAY
10:31:26AM ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE.
10:31:27AM I'LL TAKE A MOMENT TO BREATHE.
10:31:40AM [BREATHING]
10:31:42AM OUR CITY HAS BEEN HIT BY TWO HURRICANES.
10:31:48AM WE ARE NOT ALONE.
10:31:49AM I'M SPEAKING FOR MY COMMUNITY.
10:31:56AM MY COMMUNITY IS SOUTH OF AZEELE, NORTH OF SWANN, EAST OF
10:32:03AM MacDILL AND WEST OF ARMENIA.

10:32:09AM WE ARE IN FLOOD ZONE X.
10:32:13AM WE WERE ALL FLOODED.
10:32:14AM NOT ALL.
10:32:16AM THERE IS A RETENTION POND.
10:32:21AM THE STRUCTURES ON THE RETENTION POND ARE FINE.
10:32:26AM THERE IS A PARKING LOT WITH SOME TYPE OF WATER DRAINAGE
10:32:31AM SYSTEM -- I'M NOT AN ENGINEER AND WILL NOT EVEN TRY TO BE
10:32:37AM TODAY.
10:32:37AM ALSO, IF I SPEAK BEYOND MY THREE MINUTES, I REQUEST THAT YOU
10:32:40AM LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE I HEARD YOU SPEAK FIVE MINUTES, SEVEN
10:32:44AM MINUTES, AND WE ARE EQUALS HERE.
10:32:48AM THERE IS A PARKING LOT WITH AN UNDERWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM OF
10:32:53AM SOME KIND.
10:32:58AM WHY DID THE WATER WHERE WE ARE NOT GET THERE?
10:33:02AM I WANT PIPES AND I WANT THEM NOW AND I WANT YOU TO BE
10:33:10AM REACTIONARY.
10:33:13AM I WANT REACTIONARY.
10:33:15AM I DO NOT WANT A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM.
10:33:21AM YOU'VE HAD A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM.
10:33:24AM I WANT REACTIONARY.
10:33:26AM I WANT TRUCKS.
10:33:27AM I WANT TO SEE TRUCKS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY THAT SAY
10:33:31AM STORMWATER DEPARTMENT.
10:33:32AM I WANT THEM EVERY DAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, BUSINESS
10:33:35AM HOURS, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

10:33:36AM AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TRUCKS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE
10:33:39AM ENOUGH PEOPLE, YOU HIRE MORE.
10:33:41AM YOU KNOW HOW YOU HIRE MORE, WITH MY TAX DOLLARS THAT I PAY
10:33:46AM EVERY YEAR.
10:33:48AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:33:48AM I WILL BE CONTINUING AND I THINK I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF MY
10:33:55AM COMMUNITY.
10:33:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:33:56AM I AM HAPPY TO BE YOUR FRIEND.
10:34:03AM I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ENEMIES.
10:34:05AM I WOULD LIKE TO BE YOUR LIAISON.
10:34:07AM I WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE WITH MY COMMUNITY WITH
10:34:11AM COMMUNICATION FROM YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT.
10:34:14AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK BILL CARLSON.
10:34:18AM I WILL STILL BE SPEAKING.
10:34:21AM YOU CAN TURN MY THING OFF.
10:34:23AM THIS IS LIKE THE ACADEMY AWARDS OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.
10:34:26AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK BILL CARLSON FOR COMING TO MY
10:34:30AM NEIGHBORHOOD AT MY REQUEST AND WALKING WITH ME AND SEEING
10:34:33AM THE DESTRUCTION.
10:34:34AM I WOULD LIKE TO CONCUR WITH MOST OF HIS AGREEMENTS --
10:34:37AM COMMENTS.
10:34:37AM I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO BE REACTIONARY.
10:34:43AM I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I WANT AND BRIEFLY COMMENT FURTHER.
10:34:46AM I WANT TRUCKS.

10:34:47AM I WANT YOU TO HIRE PEOPLE WITH THE TAX DOLLARS I ALREADY
10:34:51AM PAID.
10:34:52AM I DON'T WANT TO PAY MORE TAXES.
10:34:55AM I'M IN FLOOD ZONE X.
10:34:56AM I SHOULD NOT HAVE FLOODED.
10:34:58AM DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
10:34:59AM I WANT THE TAX DOLLARS THAT I'VE ALREADY PAID TO PAY, HIRE
10:35:04AM MORE PEOPLE, HIRE MORE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE IN THOSE TRUCKS IN
10:35:08AM MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS OF FLOOD ZONE X.
10:35:14AM LISTEN, I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF DEVASTATION EVERYWHERE.
10:35:16AM I'M ZOOMING IN ON MY ISSUE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M AWARE OF THE
10:35:20AM BIGGER ISSUES.
10:35:21AM I'M ONLY SPEAKING ON MY ISSUE, BUT I AM AWARE THAT I AM NOT
10:35:25AM ALONE.
10:35:25AM I BOUGHT A HOME IN FLOOD ZONE X ONE YEAR AGO I SOLD MY HOME
10:35:31AM IN FLOOD ZONE A SO THAT I WOULD NOT FLOOD.
10:35:35AM I LIVED IN HYDE PARK, IN A BEAUTIFUL BUNGALOW.
10:35:40AM I SOLD MY FAMILY HOME AND I GOT FLOODED.
10:35:45AM I BOUGHT NEW CONSTRUCTION IN FLOOD ZONE X AND I BLAME CITY
10:35:51AM COUNCIL AND I BLAME THE CITY.
10:35:53AM I'M TIRED OF HEARING WHAT I HEARD TODAY.
10:35:55AM WE'RE NOT AT FAULT.
10:35:56AM THERE'S NO FAULT.
10:35:57AM I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS.
10:35:58AM YOU OVERDEVELOPED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU --

10:36:02AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:36:02AM YOU DID NOT PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:36:07AM YOU DID NOT PUT IN THE PIPES TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT.
10:36:12AM IT'S SIMPLE.
10:36:14AM I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE FLOODWATERS, IT'S COMPLICATED.
10:36:16AM THE WATER CAME FROM THE SKY.
10:36:19AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:36:19AM AND IT HAD NOWHERE TO GO BUT MY LIVING ROOM.
10:36:24AM AND THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DID NOT PUT THE PIPES FIRST.
10:36:30AM ARE WE CLEAR?
10:36:31AM YOU DON'T GET YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.
10:36:34AM YOU HAVE TO EARN THE TAXPAYER'S DOLLAR.
10:36:38AM YOU HAVE TO EARN MY PROPERTY TAXES.
10:36:41AM YOU REPLACED SECTION 8 HOUSING WITH A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
10:36:49AM TOWN HOUSE PROJECT.
10:36:50AM YOU ARE COLLECTING PROPERTY TAXES ON THOSE BUILDINGS BUT YOU
10:36:54AM DID NOT DO YOUR JOB FIRST OF PUTTING THE PIPES IN THE GROUND
10:36:58AM FOR THE RUNOFF.
10:37:01AM THERE IS RUNOFF.
10:37:03AM AND IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD IN PLACE A PIPING SYSTEM THAT
10:37:08AM WOULD RECEIVE THE RUNOFF.
10:37:10AM THE PIPING SYSTEM ISN'T IN THE GROUND, SO YOU DON'T GET THE
10:37:14AM TOWN HOUSES AND YOU DON'T GET THE PROPERTY TAXES.
10:37:16AM ARE WE CLEAR?
10:37:17AM YOU DON'T GET THE PROPERTY TAXES AND YOU DON'T GET MORE.

10:37:21AM WHO SAID MORE?
10:37:22AM YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY MORE PROPERTY TAXES.
10:37:25AM I'M PAYING A LOT OF PROPERTY TAXES AND YOU DID NOT DO YOUR
10:37:29AM JOB OF PUTTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN.
10:37:31AM WHAT DO I WANT?
10:37:32AM I WANT TRUCKS THAT SAY STORMWATER DEPARTMENT EVERY DAY.
10:37:38AM YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TRUCKS, YOU HIRE MORE WITH MY TAX I'VE
10:37:41AM ALREADY PAID.
10:37:42AM I WANT PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING BECAUSE I DON'T
10:37:46AM KNOW HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
10:37:48AM I WANT PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO FIX THE
10:37:51AM STORMWATER PROBLEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER FLOOD ZONE X
10:37:56AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:37:57AM YOU CAN'T CONTROL MOTHER NATURE.
10:37:59AM YOU CAN CONTROL THIS.
10:38:00AM ARE WE CLEAR?
10:38:03AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:38:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:05AM NEXT SPEAKER IS KEVIN LEIOVAS.
10:38:19AM TY SCOTT.
10:38:20AM KEVIN IS THE FIRST SPEAKER, AND THEN.
10:38:31AM >> WE'RE REPRESENTING EACH OTHER.
10:38:33AM HUSBAND AND WIFE.
10:38:35AM >> KEVIN LEIOVAS.
10:38:38AM >> ANGELINA ARCHELA.

10:38:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE AS ONE SPEAKER.
10:38:45AM >> MY NAME IS ANGELINA.
10:38:46AM I RESIDE AT 402 SOUTH ARRAWANA AVENUE.
10:38:50AM WE MOVED IN 2020 AND WE HAVE TWO YOUNG ELEMENTARY KIDS.
10:38:56AM WE ARE NOW DISPLACED.
10:38:57AM WE TOOK PRIDE IN OUR HOME, NEW CONSTRUCTION HOME, FLOOD ZONE
10:39:02AM X.
10:39:03AM NOBODY ON OUR STREET HAD FLOOD INSURANCE.
10:39:05AM WE HIRED A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, ALL THE OUT-OF-POCKET
10:39:09AM EXPENSES ARE GOING TO EXCEED $40,000, PROBABLY MORE, PLUS MY
10:39:15AM PARENTS HAD EVACUATED FROM THEIR ZONE B MANDATORY EVACUATION
10:39:19AM TO STAY AT OUR HOUSE AND THEY WITNESSED THE STORM IN
10:39:22AM REAL-TIME.
10:39:23AM THERE WAS A VIRAL TIKTOK VIDEO GOING ON FROM MY HOME THAT
10:39:26AM SHOWS WHAT MY DAD DESCRIBED AS A CRUISE SHIP LOOKING OUTSIDE
10:39:30AM AND SEEING THE WATER FLOW THROUGH, FOUR FEET OF WATER, SIX
10:39:34AM FEET AT SOME POINT, LIKE AN OCEAN PASSING.
10:39:38AM UNFORTUNATELY, THE SYSTEM IS TO BLAME.
10:39:41AM WE HAVE SEEN STORM FLOODING PREVIOUSLY AND NOTHING HAS BEEN
10:39:44AM DONE.
10:39:45AM IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS AN OVERLOAD IN THE STORM DRAIN
10:39:49AM SYSTEM.
10:39:49AM I'LL GIVE KEVIN TIME TO SPEAK TOO.
10:39:53AM >> I FEEL THE EMOTION BECAUSE IT MEANS SOMETHING TO
10:39:56AM EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM.

10:39:57AM ALL OF YOU AS WELL.
10:39:59AM I APPRECIATE ALL OF US GETTING TOGETHER.
10:40:04AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU MADE SOME REALLY GOOD STATEMENTS.
10:40:07AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:40:07AM I'M HERE TO ASK SOME REASONABLE QUESTIONS.
10:40:10AM PROPOSED A SOLUTION.
10:40:14AM ECHO MIRANDA, I'M NOT HERE TO BLAME THE GOVERNMENT BUT TO
10:40:17AM HELP SOLVE SOME ISSUES.
10:40:19AM THE WAY YOU TOUCH YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU HAVE TO DO IT ONE
10:40:22AM NEIGHBORHOOD AT A TIME.
10:40:23AM I'M IN FLOOD ZONE X, SAME AS LIZ.
10:40:27AM THERE ARE A LOT OF NEGATIVES.
10:40:28AM BUT ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, I LIKE TO MENTION SOMETHING LIKE
10:40:32AM THAT.
10:40:32AM MY 10-YEAR-OLD SON WAS LAYING TILE YESTERDAY WITH THE TILE
10:40:38AM GUY.
10:40:39AM HARD DAY'S WORTH OF WORK, LET'S PUT SOME WORK IN.
10:40:42AM NOT THE WHOLE DAY BUT A COUPLE OF HOURS.
10:40:45AM AT LEAST TOOK THAT PERSPECTIVE AWAY.
10:40:47AM IF YOU DON'T STAND FOR SOMETHING, YOU STAND FOR NOTHING.
10:40:50AM I'M HERE TO STAND FOR THE AZEELE, HORATIO NEIGHBORHOOD, THE
10:40:55AM EXACT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LIZ POINTED OUT.
10:40:57AM I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
10:41:00AM WE GOT TO REDO THE STORMWATER PLAN.
10:41:03AM SUPER IMPORTANT.

10:41:05AM IT FAILED.
10:41:05AM I THINK WE'RE ALL HERE FOR THE SAME REASON.
10:41:08AM SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, WHATEVER STATEMENTS ON RECORD, HAVE
10:41:11AM WE CONCLUDED WHY THIS HAPPENED IN FLOOD ZONE X?
10:41:14AM FLOOD ZONES WERE DEFINED FOR A REASON.
10:41:19AM IS THERE DATA SUPPORTING AN ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE OR LACK
10:41:24AM THEREOF?
10:41:24AM I BELIEVE IT SOUNDS LIKE A HIGH PRIORITY.
10:41:27AM I WANT TO HAVE MEANINGFUL FOLLOW-UP.
10:41:29AM I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND WALK OUT THE DOOR.
10:41:32AM THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO.
10:41:34AM I'M ALSO AN EMPLOYER.
10:41:35AM I UNDERSTAND BALANCING THE RESOURCES.
10:41:38AM WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO SOLVE THE ISSUE.
10:41:40AM THIS IS A COMPLICATED PROBLEM.
10:41:42AM IF I COULD MAKE A REQUEST, AT LEAST STARTING WITH AN
10:41:45AM INVESTIGATION INTO THE STORMWATER PLAN, INTO THE PALMA CEIA,
10:41:49AM ARRAWANA, HORATIO NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:41:53AM THANK YOU.
10:41:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:54AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:41:54AM THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE, THE FIRST NAME IS SPELLED TIGE.
10:41:58AM SEAL SCOTT IS WHAT I SEE AS THE LAST NAME.
10:42:06AM DON'T SEE THAT PERSON HERE.
10:42:08AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND MS. POYNOR.

10:42:41AM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:42:43AM I'LL SPEAK ON ONE ASPECT OF WHAT HAPPENED.
10:42:49AM MY NEIGHBORHOOD GOT HIT PRETTY HARD.
10:42:51AM WE HAD A LOT OF TREES DOWN.
10:42:53AM MY NEIGHBORS, PLENTY OF THEM LOST POWER FOR EIGHT DAYS.
10:42:56AM I'VE GOT PICTURES HERE THAT SHOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:43:03AM YOU CAN SEE THE MASSIVE TREES THAT WENT DOWN AND WHY THEY
10:43:07AM WERE WITHOUT POWER.
10:43:09AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE
10:43:14AM LOOKING AT.
10:43:15AM I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE TREES THAT DIDN'T GO DOWN.
10:43:17AM WE HAD ON THIS BLOCK, TWO TREES THAT WENT DOWN.
10:43:21AM AND THEY LOST POWER FOR EIGHT DAYS.
10:43:23AM THERE WERE 15 OAK TREES THAT DID NOT GO DOWN.
10:43:26AM I WANT TO SAY TO PEOPLE, WHEN THEY SEE AN OAK TREE THAT WENT
10:43:31AM DOWN, STAND THERE AND LOOK AROUND AT ALL THE OAK TREES THAT
10:43:35AM DIDN'T.
10:43:35AM THIS IS FROM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
10:43:39AM IT SAYS IN LIGHT OF RECENT HURRICANES, ONE OF THE BEST
10:43:43AM THINGS YOU CAN DO IS PLANT TREES THAT CAN WITHSTAND
10:43:47AM HURRICANE FORCE WINDS.
10:43:49AM RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY UF SAND LIVE OAKS ARE THE MOST
10:43:53AM RESISTANT TO WIND DAMAGE.
10:43:54AM OTHER GOOD CHOICES, SOUTHERN MAGNOLIA, LIVE OAK, POOR
10:43:59AM CHOICES ARE WATER OAKS AND LAUREL OAKS.

10:44:02AM SAND LIVE OAKS.
10:44:10AM TREES THAT CAN WITHSTAND HURRICANES.
10:44:13AM I'VE BEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA ALL DAY LONG FOR I DON'T EVEN KNOW
10:44:20AM HOW LONG.
10:44:20AM THE TREES THAT I SAW TALK ABOUT THE CAUSE, DAMAGE TO
10:44:24AM PEOPLE'S HOME IN ADDITION TO OAK TREES, MAGNOLIAS, CYPRESS,
10:44:28AM PINES, AVOCADO, MANGOS.
10:44:31AM MY PODOCARPUS LANDED ON MY NEIGHBOR'S ROOF.
10:44:35AM I DIDN'T BRING THE VIDEO OF MY STREET.
10:44:37AM MY STREET WAS A RIVER.
10:44:39AM I WAS LUCKY.
10:44:40AM I'M ON PIERS, THE WAY FEMA SAYS IS THE GOLD STANDARD SO
10:44:45AM WATER CAN FLOW UNDERNEATH MY HOUSE.
10:44:47AM I'M ON PIERS.
10:44:48AM DIDN'T HAVE WATER ON MY STREET.
10:44:49AM WHAT YOU DIDN'T SEE IN THAT VIDEO WAS THE WATER THAT DIDN'T
10:44:53AM GO DOWN MY STREET BECAUSE OF THE GIANT OAK TREE NEXT DOOR.
10:44:57AM THIS OAK TREE IS MASSIVE.
10:44:59AM THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THAT OAK TREE PREVENTED FROM GOING
10:45:04AM DOWN MY STREET IS WHAT YOU DON'T SEE.
10:45:08AM IN SANTA MONICA, RAINFALL INTERCEPTION, DONE BY THE -- THIS
10:45:14AM IS ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL URBAN FOREST.
10:45:17AM A 22-INCH TREE, 22 INCHES, THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING A
10:45:22AM GRAND TREE IN TAMPA, ALMOST 80% INTERCEPTION.
10:45:25AM TREES ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

10:45:28AM THE METEOROLOGIST SAID WE HAD MORE HURRICANES IN THE LAST
10:45:31AM EIGHT YEARS THAN WE HAD IN 57 MAJOR HURRICANES IN 57 YEARS
10:45:36AM PRIOR.
10:45:36AM THIS IS THE NEW REALITY.
10:45:37AM TREES ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
10:45:39AM I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT PERFECT.
10:45:41AM I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE LOST POWER BECAUSE OF THEM BUT WE NEED
10:45:43AM TO UNDERSTAND AND REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE ONE OF THE PIECES
10:45:46AM OF THE PUZZLE FOR MITIGATING CLIMATE CHANGE AND THEY ARE
10:45:50AM SOMETHING WE CANNOT SUDDENLY CONDEMN BECAUSE OF THE THINGS
10:45:53AM WE SAW AND THE THINGS WE DIDN'T SEE.
10:45:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:56AM STEPHANIE POYNOR IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
10:46:00AM MEGAN PUTZIG IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
10:46:11AM YOU ARE AFTER MS. POYNOR.
10:46:13AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:46:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:46:14AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:46:16AM I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE STAFF.
10:46:18AM I HAVE TALKED TO PROBABLY EVERYBODY IN EVERY DEPARTMENT.
10:46:21AM I AM SENDING TEXT IMAGES.
10:46:23AM I PULLED BRAD BAIRD FROM A PRESS CONFERENCE.
10:46:26AM I THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY.
10:46:27AM ANYWAY, I THINK CHARLIE SAID WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY WE
10:46:31AM LIVE AND THE WAY WE BUILD.

10:46:33AM WE NEED TO START BY MOVING THE STORMWATER CONSIDERATION TO
10:46:36AM THE LAND USE PROCESS.
10:46:38AM THAT SHOULD START TOMORROW.
10:46:40AM THAT SHOULD NOT WAIT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY COME TO YOU
10:46:43AM WITH A LAND USE CHANGE, WE TAKE NO CONSIDERATION FOR
10:46:47AM STORMWATER, ESPECIALLY IN THE CHAA.
10:46:50AM YOU KNOW, I JUST LEARNED YESTERDAY THE STORMWATER EXPERT FOR
10:46:55AM THE CITY OF TAMPA'S NAME.
10:46:57AM I THINK IT IS DAVE JENNINGS.
10:46:59AM I WROTE IT ON MY HAND BUT THEN TOOK A SHOWER.
10:47:02AM I NEVER HEARD THAT GUY'S NAME BEFORE.
10:47:04AM NEVER SEEN HIM HERE BEFORE AND HE IS THE GUY WHO DOES THE
10:47:07AM CONSTRUCTION PART OF IT.
10:47:08AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF HIM.
10:47:13AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:47:13AM LOOKING FOR FEMA'S BEST PRACTICES IN UPDATING THE CODE.
10:47:18AM I WANT US TO LOOK AT THE CODE.
10:47:19AM THIS IS PART OF THE CHAA STUDY DID FOR PALMETTO BEACH AND
10:47:25AM SOG.
10:47:26AM WAIT, THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS OF THE CITY THAT TOOK SOME OF
10:47:29AM THE HARDEST HITS.
10:47:30AM IT'S DONE.
10:47:35AM BUT WE LOST HALF OF OUR LAND USE DEPARTMENT IN THE LAST SIX
10:47:39AM MONTHS.
10:47:39AM SO WE CAN'T GET IT TO YOU.

10:47:42AM SO WE NEED TO TAKE THOSE BEST PRACTICES THAT ARE A PART OF
10:47:45AM THAT $500,000 STUDY AND PUT THEM TO WORK IMMEDIATELY.
10:47:48AM WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE MONEY TO DO THIS?
10:47:52AM NOT OUT OF MY TAX POCKETBOOK.
10:47:54AM WE NEED TO LEAVE THE $26 MILLION THAT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA
10:47:57AM FOR THAT RIVERWALK FOR AND REEL IT BACK IN AND SPEND IT ON A
10:48:02AM NEED, NOT A WANT.
10:48:04AM THAT IS LIKE GOING OUT AND BUYING A NEW CAR WHEN YOUR ROOF
10:48:09AM HAS GOT A HOLE IN IT.
10:48:11AM WE'VE GOT A ROOF WITH A HOLE IN IT AND SOMEBODY A COUPLE OF
10:48:13AM WEEKS AGO THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA TO BUY A NEW CAR.
10:48:17AM TAKE IT BACK.
10:48:18AM I'LL TELL YOU ALL LIKE I TELL MY KIDS, TAKE IT BACK BECAUSE
10:48:22AM I AM NOT BUYING YOU YOUR NEEDS IF YOU WASTED YOUR MONEY ON
10:48:25AM YOUR WANTS.
10:48:27AM YOU CANNOT DO THAT.
10:48:28AM TAKE IT BACK.
10:48:29AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:48:30AM IT'S NOT COMPLETELY DONE YET BECAUSE YOU AS A CRA BOARD HAVE
10:48:34AM NOT APPROVED THE MONEY FROM THE WEST TAMPA CAC OR THE CRA.
10:48:37AM IT'S NOT FUNDED YET.
10:48:40AM YOU CAN TAKE IT BACK AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY
10:48:42AM VIOLATIONS BECAUSE IF THE CITY ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT ON
10:48:45AM IT, THEY HAVE A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T APPROVE IT.
10:48:48AM GADSDEN PARK IS A BRUSH SITE.

10:48:57AM THIS RIVERWALK -- OH, OH, OH!
10:49:00AM I ALMOST FORGOT.
10:49:03AM LET'S PUT THE CAP ON THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND BRING THAT MONEY
10:49:05AM BACK INTO THE FOLD OF THE GENERAL FUND SO WE CAN USE IT FOR
10:49:09AM THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
10:49:10AM THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
10:49:11AM THIS IS BEYOND IMPORTANT.
10:49:13AM THIS HAS REACHED OUT TO EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY CORNER OF OUR
10:49:18AM CITY.
10:49:18AM WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO CONSOLIDATE INTO SEPARATE AREAS AND
10:49:22AM TREAT ONE AREA DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER.
10:49:24AM WE HAVE TO BE CITYWIDE.
10:49:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:27AM MEGAN IS THE NEXT SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY BRIAN QUINN AND PAULA
10:49:31AM MACKLEY.
10:49:33AM >> MEGAN PUTZIG.
10:49:36AM I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF
10:49:40AM AUDUBON AND ARRAWANA TOWNHOMES DEVASTATED BY THE
10:49:45AM CATASTROPHIC IMPACT OF HURRICANE MILTON.
10:49:48AM OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN TURNED UPSIDE DOWN.
10:49:50AM WE HAVE LOST EVERYTHING ON OUR FIRST FLOORS.
10:49:53AM PERSONAL ITEMS, DOORS, DRYWALL, FLOODING, APPLIANCES, AND
10:49:56AM HOT WATER SYSTEMS DUE TO OVER TWO FEET OF WATER ENTERING OUR
10:50:00AM HOMES.
10:50:01AM OUR ELDERLY NEIGHBORS ARE NOW SLEEPING IN HOMES SATURATED

10:50:04AM WITH BLEACH, BATTLING MOLD AND FEELING ABANDONED AS THEY
10:50:07AM HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO SEEK REFUGE ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS IN
10:50:11AM THE COMMUNITY.
10:50:12AM ESTIMATED DAMAGES FOR EACH FAMILY REACHES UPWARDS OF $50,000
10:50:15AM BUT THE TRUE COST IS FAR GREATER.
10:50:17AM IT IS THE EMOTIONAL TOLL, THE UNCERTAINTY AND PROFOUND SENSE
10:50:21AM OF NEGLECT FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:50:22AM FOR YEARS, WE HAVE BROUGHT ABOUT OUR CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE
10:50:25AM AND FLOODING TO YOUR ATTENTION, YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
10:50:29AM IT WAS STATED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER THIS MORNING, THEY DIDN'T
10:50:31AM KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM UNTIL IT PRESENTED ITSELF.
10:50:34AM THAT IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER INSULT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
10:50:38AM YOU ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND YOU HAVE YET TO MOVE
10:50:41AM FORWARD WITH A SOLUTION.
10:50:42AM DESPITE OUR PLEAS, THE CITY CONTINUES TO ALLOW NEW
10:50:45AM DEVELOPMENTS, RAISING THE ELEVATION OF HOMES AND DIRECTING
10:50:48AM MORE WATER TOWARD OUR ALREADY VULNERABLE PROPERTIES.
10:50:51AM THIS ONGOING NEGLECT IS NOT JUST AN OVERSIGHT, IT IS A
10:50:56AM CRISIS THAT THREATENS THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY.
10:50:59AM WE'RE ASKING YOU TO STOP PUSHING THE ISSUE ASIDE.
10:51:02AM WE DEMAND IMMEDIATE ACTION.
10:51:04AM DESIGN IN PUBLIC INPUT PROJECT TO ADDRESS THE CRITICAL
10:51:07AM DRAINAGE AND FLOODING CONCERNS.
10:51:08AM THE DEVASTATION WE ARE EXPERIENCING IS IMMENSE AND WE CAN NO
10:51:13AM LONGER BEAR THE BURDEN OF AN ACTION.

10:51:15AM PLEASE DO NOT LET OUR STRUGGLES BE FORGOTTEN.
10:51:18AM WE DESERVE A SOLUTION AND WE NEED YOUR LEADERSHIP NOW MORE
10:51:21AM THAN EVER.
10:51:22AM THANK YOU.
10:51:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:23AM BRIAN QUINN AND PAULA MACKLEY.
10:51:26AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:51:35AM >> BRIAN QUINN.
10:51:36AM I WANT TO FIRST THANK THE CITY, THANK THE POLICE, THANK THE
10:51:41AM FIRST RESPONDERS, THANK ALL OF YOU.
10:51:42AM I REALIZE THAT WE ARE ALL UNDER INCREDIBLE PRESSURE HERE.
10:51:45AM I LIVE AT 2701 WEST HORATIO STREET TAMPA FLORIDA, 33609.
10:51:50AM WANT TO START WITH A QUESTION.
10:51:56AM ON THE COUNCIL, WHO IS AWARE OF THE FLOOD PROBLEM IN THAT
10:52:01AM NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED?
10:52:02AM 33609.
10:52:05AM IT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT TWO OR THREE OF OUR FOLKS --
10:52:09AM WHO IS AWARE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD?
10:52:12AM ALL OF YOU.
10:52:15AM I'M SORRY.
10:52:15AM I HAVEN'T SENT A SINGLE E-MAIL.
10:52:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS IT?
10:52:22AM >> 33609, PALMA CEIA, HYDE PARK.
10:52:26AM SWANN.
10:52:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:52:28AM >> THE REASON I ASK IS I WORK BIG PROBLEMS ALL THE TIME AS
10:52:35AM DO YOU.
10:52:35AM THIS PROBLEM EXISTED FOR 20 YEARS.
10:52:38AM FOR 20 YEARS.
10:52:41AM I WANT TO BE EMPATHETIC.
10:52:44AM WHY IS HE CLAPPING?
10:52:45AM FOR THE SAME REASON THEY WERE CLAPPING WHEN TALKING ABOUT
10:52:48AM THE THINGS ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:52:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING, SIR.
10:52:53AM GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE TO TALK.
10:52:55AM >> IF YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM FOR 20 YEARS, THIS WAS A
10:52:58AM SUPER STORM.
10:52:59AM NOBODY WANTED IT TO COME.
10:53:01AM HUNDRED YEARS, 355, HUNDRED, THOUSAND, CALL IT WHATEVER YOU
10:53:04AM WANT WHEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM FOR 20 YEARS, UNCONSCIONABLE
10:53:09AM NOT TO FIX IT.
10:53:11AM SIMILAR TO THE WOMAN THAT ALREADY SPOKE, LIZ, I BOUGHT A
10:53:15AM HOME IN X ON PURPOSE.
10:53:18AM I MOVED FROM AN A AND A B AND C TO AN X ON PURPOSE BECAUSE I
10:53:23AM KNEW WHAT WAS CHANGING IN THE CLIMATE AND THAT WE LIVE IN A
10:53:28AM PENINSULA STATE.
10:53:29AM I HAD A LENDER THAT COUNTED AND A TITLE INSURANCE COMPANY
10:53:35AM THAT COUNTED ON THE EVACUATION ZONES AND THE FLOOD PAPERWORK
10:53:38AM TO GUIDE ME ABOUT WHAT WAS THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT MY FAMILY
10:53:42AM AND MY THINGS.

10:53:43AM AND I DID THAT.
10:53:45AM I'VE HAD FLOOD INSURANCE BEFORE.
10:53:48AM I WAS GUIDED NOT TO HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE BECAUSE I WAS IN X.
10:53:52AM THEN I DIDN'T EVACUATE BECAUSE I WASN'T IN AN EVACUATION
10:53:56AM ZONE.
10:53:57AM WHAT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE TO ME IS THE 20-YEAR PIECE.
10:54:01AM THAT IS THE LONG-TERM PROBLEM.
10:54:03AM HOW COULD THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR 20 YEARS AND NEVER BE
10:54:06AM ADDRESSED?
10:54:06AM MEDIUM TERM PROGRAM.
10:54:09AM I WON'T SHOW YOU THE VIDEO I WAS GOING TO.
10:54:13AM DIDN'T REALIZE MY SON WAS CURSING IN IT.
10:54:16AM SEPTEMBER 4, HE IS HOME ALONE.
10:54:18AM WE HAD A RAIN EVENT.
10:54:20AM THAT WHOLE AREA FLOODED.
10:54:22AM SIX WEEKS AGO WE KNEW WE HAD A HUGE PROBLEM THERE.
10:54:26AM WHATEVER WAS PUT IN THERE WASN'T WORKING.
10:54:28AM THAT WAS A NORMAL JUST RAINSTORM.
10:54:31AM BEEN CONSTRUCTION ON STORM.
10:54:33AM CONSTRUCTION ON ARMENIA, A COUPLE OF THE ROADS.
10:54:36AM I ASSUMED IT WAS SOMETHING WITH THE DRAINS BECAUSE THEY WERE
10:54:38AM PAVING THE ROADS.
10:54:40AM 20 YEARS KNEW ABOUT IT.
10:54:41AM 4th A PROBLEM.
10:54:42AM 28th PROBLEM.

10:54:43AM 11th YOU HAVE A CATASTROPHE.
10:54:47AM I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE
10:54:52AM RULES AND PAY YOUR TAXES AND GET YOUR INSURANCE AND TRY AND
10:54:55AM MOVE TO A PLACE THAT IS SAFER AND THEN YOU STILL SORT OF GET
10:55:00AM SCREWED UP HERE, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IN THIS CASE WE WERE LET
10:55:05AM DOWN.
10:55:05AM WHEREVER YOU THINK YOU CAN HELP US, WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:55:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:55:09AM >> THANKS.
10:55:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PAULA MACKLEY IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
10:55:11AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:55:12AM FOLLOWED BY YVONNE FERRELLI AND TINA ADAMS.
10:55:16AM GOOD MORNING.
10:55:17AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:55:19AM >> PAULA MACKLEY.
10:55:20AM I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR MY NEIGHBORS.
10:55:25AM THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALL AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:55:29AM I THINK VIERA SAID IT AND I KNOW MR. MIRANDA SAID IT AND
10:55:33AM SEVERAL OF YOU BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SAID THAT WE'VE GOT TO
10:55:36AM LOOK AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE'VE GOT TO STOP ADDING
10:55:40AM DENSITY WHERE WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE
10:55:43AM WE DO THIS.
10:55:44AM IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE
10:55:48AM WE KEEP ADDING DENSITY.
10:55:51AM I DO WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ANSWERING THE PHONES

10:55:55AM FOR THE CITY.
10:55:57AM WE HAD SOME MAJOR ISSUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:56:00AM THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL ON THE PHONE.
10:56:03AM THE CREWS THAT CAME OUT, ONE FROM JACKSONVILLE IN MY FRONT
10:56:06AM YARD YESTERDAY.
10:56:07AM THEY WERE AMAZING.
10:56:08AM THEY ARE HERE FOR THE LONG HAUL AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING
10:56:11AM THEM HERE.
10:56:11AM BUT MY MAIN REASON FOR BEING HERE TODAY IS TO SPEAK TO ITEM
10:56:16AM 47 ON THE AGENDA AND THAT WE HOPE YOU PUSH THIS NEW
10:56:20AM CONSTRUCTION THAT'S BEING, AGAIN, IN A HIGH HAZARD AREA
10:56:24AM WHICH WE KNOW WE SHOULD NOT BE ADDING TO DENSITY TO HIGH
10:56:28AM HAZARD AREAS, THAT YOU PUSH THE HEARING TO JANUARY TO GIVE
10:56:32AM OUR COMMUNITY TIME TO RECOVER FROM THESE DISASTERS.
10:56:34AM ITEM 47, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER MOVING THAT TO JANUARY, WE
10:56:38AM WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
10:56:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:40AM YVONNE FERRELLI, TINA ADAMS, DAVID ADAMS.
10:56:46AM YES, MA'AM.
10:56:46AM GOOD MORNING.
10:56:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:56:50AM I HAVE A HANDOUT.
10:56:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:56:53AM YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER COPY
10:56:56AM THERE IF YOU WANT TO SHOW IT.

10:56:57AM IF YOU DON'T, IT'S OKAY.
10:57:00AM >> DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
10:57:02AM SORRY.
10:57:02AM YVONNE FERRELLI.
10:57:05AM LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:57:06AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE, ESPECIALLY
10:57:10AM DURING THESE VERY TRYING TIMES.
10:57:13AM I'VE BEEN ASKED TO SPEAK AND GIVE A STATEMENT FROM THE
10:57:17AM PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
10:57:20AM DEAR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC
10:57:27AM CLUB BOARD WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE OUR POSITION ON THE SOUTH
10:57:31AM HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
10:57:34AM WE STRONGLY ENDORSE A REASONABLE FLOOD RELIEF SOLUTION TO
10:57:39AM THE TERRIBLE FLOODING THAT IS OCCURRING IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:57:44AM MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS EXPERIENCED DEVASTATING FLOODING
10:57:48AM DAMAGE WITH HURRICANE MILTON AND JUSTIFIABLY DEMANDING A
10:57:55AM SOLUTION.
10:57:55AM WE SUPPORT A DESIGN AND PUBLIC INPUT PROJECT RATHER THAN THE
10:58:02AM CURRENT PROPOSED SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT WHICH
10:58:07AM DOES NOT INCLUDE PUBLIC INPUT.
10:58:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:58:11AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:58:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:58:15AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:58:15AM TINA ADAMS, DAVID ADAMS, RYAN HAYES.

10:58:19AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:58:21AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:58:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:58:22AM MY NAME IS TINA ADAMS.
10:58:24AM I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:58:26AM FOR THE RECORD, I AM NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARKLAND
10:58:30AM ESTATES CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:58:31AM MY HOME FLOODED.
10:58:34AM FOUR FEET OF DRYWALL HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
10:58:36AM THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RIPPING UP THE FLOORS.
10:58:39AM WE'VE LIVED IN THIS HOME FOR 25 YEARS.
10:58:42AM RAISED THREE CHILDREN IN THIS HOME.
10:58:46AM LOVINGLY RESTORED.
10:58:51AM ONE OF THE OLDER HOMES.
10:58:52AM DID EVERYTHING TO PROTECT IT.
10:58:54AM STORM SHUTTERS, SANDBAGS, EVERYTHING.
10:58:56AM BUT WE COULDN'T PROTECT IT FROM THE CITY'S FAILURE FOR THE
10:59:01AM STORMWATER.
10:59:01AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:59:02AM AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
10:59:03AM WE HAD SEWAGE AND STORMWATER THAT FLOODED.
10:59:07AM IT WASN'T THE HURRICANE THAT GOT US.
10:59:09AM IT WAS THE STORMWATER SYSTEM AND THE SEWAGE.
10:59:13AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:59:14AM WE ARE 17 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.

10:59:22AM WE ARE IN FLOOD ZONE X.
10:59:25AM WE ARE IN EVACUATION ZONE C.
10:59:27AM WE SHOULD NOT FLOOD.
10:59:30AM THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
10:59:33AM WE HAVE HAD OVER TEN FLOOD EVENTS SINCE JUNE.
10:59:37AM NONE THIS SEVERE, BUT LOTS OF DAMAGE.
10:59:45AM THE CAUSE OF THE FLOODING IS A STORM SYSTEM THAT HAS NOT
10:59:55AM BEEN UPDATED.
10:59:57AM YOU HAVE COLLECTED TAXES.
11:00:01AM I'M TIRED OF STUDIES.
11:00:02AM I'M TIRED OF ALL OF IT.
11:00:04AM WE NEED AN EMERGENCY SYSTEM TO LOOK AT THE FLOODING.
11:00:09AM MY AREA WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE.
11:00:13AM OBVIOUSLY, AROUND US, AUDUBON, ALL THOSE AREAS, FOREST
11:00:17AM HILLS, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOW WE'RE HANDLING OUR
11:00:22AM STORMWATER.
11:00:22AM IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
11:00:25AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:00:25AM I'M BEGGING YOU TO MAKE AN EMERGENCY PROVISION.
11:00:33AM DO SOMETHING.
11:00:35AM SOMETHING EFFECTIVE TO HELP US FEEL SAFE IN OUR HOMES AGAIN.
11:00:40AM NO ONE SHOULD FEEL ANXIOUS AND AFRAID EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
11:00:44AM NO ONE.
11:00:47AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:00:47AM PLEASE GIVE THE ENGINEERS EVERY TOOL THEY HAVE TO SOLVE THIS

11:00:53AM PROBLEM.
11:00:54AM DO NOT MAKE EXCLUSIONS.
11:00:56AM DO NOT HAVE SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR PEOPLE OR PLACES.
11:01:00AM PLEASE GIVE THEM EVERY SOURCE, EVERY TOOL TO FIND A
11:01:05AM SOLUTION, AN EFFECTIVE SOLUTION TO MAKE OUR HOMES SAFE
11:01:08AM AGAIN.
11:01:09AM THANK YOU.
11:01:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:11AM WE HAVE DAVID ADAMS, RYAN HAYES, AND GARRETT KULCQYCKI.
11:01:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:01:23AM DAVID ADAMS.
11:01:24AM I LIVE WITH TINA.
11:01:26AM ALSO MET WITH LIZ.
11:01:27AM THEY ARE ALSO IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:01:29AM BEFORE I CAME HERE TODAY, I WAS PRYING UP WATER SOAKED
11:01:35AM LAMINATE FROM MY KITCHEN FLOOR.
11:01:36AM WASN'T JUST WATER AS TINA SAID.
11:01:38AM IT WAS SEWER BECAUSE THE SEWAGE SYSTEM FAILED.
11:01:41AM VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR OF MY HOUSE HAS BEEN
11:01:45AM DESTROYED.
11:01:45AM CHAIRS, COUCHES, TABLES, TELEVISIONS, CARPETS, YOU NAME IT.
11:01:50AM MY ENTIRE KITCHEN HAS BEEN RIPPED OUT.
11:01:52AM CABINETS, COUNTER TOPS, STOVE, REFRIGERATOR, DISHWATER,
11:01:56AM FLOOR.
11:01:57AM ORIGINAL PLASTER AND THE DRYWALL, AS TINA SAID, HAS BEEN

11:02:00AM REMOVED FROM THE STUDS.
11:02:01AM THE HOUSE IS A DISASTER.
11:02:03AM WE CAN'T LIVE IN IT.
11:02:04AM IT STINKS OF MOLD AND MILDEW.
11:02:07AM ESTIMATE TO REPAIR IT IS ALMOST $200,000.
11:02:10AM IT'S NOT JUST ME.
11:02:12AM ROUND NUMBERS, 30 PEOPLE HAVE FLOODED IN PARKLAND ESTATES
11:02:15AM AND MANY DON'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE AND FOR GOOD REASON AS
11:02:19AM YOU'VE HEARD TODAY.
11:02:21AM WE'RE ALL IN FLOOD ZONE X.
11:02:23AM ACCORDING TO FEMA, THE FLOOD ZONE X HAS A PROBABILITY OF .2
11:02:28AM OR ONE IN 500 CHANCES OF FLOODING.
11:02:31AM BUT THE CITY HAS CHANGED THE ODDS.
11:02:34AM FOR NINE YEARS, TAMPA HAS KNOWN THIS IS AN AREA OF HIGH
11:02:38AM URBAN FLOODING.
11:02:39AM REPORTS IN PARKLAND ESTATES WERE GENERATED IN 2017, 2018,
11:02:44AM 2019, 2020, 2021, AND THE LATEST ONE IS APRIL OF 2022.
11:02:53AM ALL OF THE REPORTS ARE UNANIMOUS.
11:02:55AM WE NEED A STORMWATER SYSTEM.
11:02:58AM YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
11:03:00AM NOW WE HAVE 30 HOMES WITH $200,000 OF DAMAGE WHICH TOTALS UP
11:03:03AM TO ABOUT $6 MILLION, NOT INCLUDING ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU
11:03:07AM HEARD TODAY.
11:03:07AM FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS CITY
11:03:13AM COUNCIL WOULD IMPOSE SUCH MISERY ON THEIR CITIZENS.

11:03:17AM WORSE YET, EVEN IF WE REPAIR OUR HOMES, WHO IS TO SAY THEY
11:03:21AM ARE NOT GOING TO FLOOD NEXT YEAR?
11:03:23AM AS ALBERT EINSTEIN ONCE SAID, INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME
11:03:27AM THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS.
11:03:30AM ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS ISN'T GOING TO GO INSANE, THEY ARE
11:03:33AM APPLYING FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT.
11:03:35AM THEY ARE TEARING DOWN THEIR HOME.
11:03:36AM THEIR MORTGAGE WON'T GO AWAY.
11:03:39AM WE CAN'T CHANGE THE ELEVATIONS OF OUR HOMES AND THE
11:03:41AM STORMWATER DEPARTMENT KNOWS THAT.
11:03:43AM SO THEY PASSED THIS SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF DISTRICT
11:03:47AM PROJECT.
11:03:49AM AND THE REPORT WAS DATED APRIL OF 2022.
11:03:52AM IT'S OCTOBER 2024.
11:03:55AM IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
11:04:01AM THE CITY HAS DONE THIS TO US BY REPEATEDLY FAILING TO FUND
11:04:05AM THIS PROJECT.
11:04:05AM WE CAN'T CHANGE HISTORY.
11:04:08AM THE DAMAGE IS DONE.
11:04:09AM BUT YOU CAN MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
11:04:12AM AS TINA SAID, YOU SHOULD AUTHORIZE AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT
11:04:17AM TO COMMENCE THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
11:04:21AM PLEASE COMPLETE THIS PROJECT SO WE DON'T FLOOD AGAIN.
11:04:24AM THIS IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
11:04:27AM THIS IS YOUR DUTY.

11:04:28AM PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:04:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:04:31AM NEXT IS RYAN HAYES, GARRETT, AND STEVE MICHELINI.
11:04:39AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:04:47AM >> RYAN HAYES.
11:04:48AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMEN AND COUNCILMEN.
11:04:51AM THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING AND SITTING IN THE UNCOMFORTABLE
11:04:53AM SEATS.
11:04:54AM AS OF RIGHT NOW WE CAN ALL FEEL THE HEAT.
11:04:57AM BEEN COMING HERE THE LAST FIVE TO SIX MONTHS TALKING ON
11:05:01AM BEHALF OF -- DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH IN DEPTH.
11:05:06AM NOW TIME FOR EACH ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS TO POSSIBLY REACH
11:05:09AM OUT TO US AND SEE HOW WE CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY.
11:05:11AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PROACTIVE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
11:05:14AM HAPPENING IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH THE FLOOD ON THE COMMUNITY
11:05:17AM BEHALF.
11:05:19AM AS AWARE, THERE IS A LOT OF MOLD AND A LOT OF APARTMENT
11:05:22AM COMPLEXES HAVE BEEN DESTRUCTED BY THESE TWO HURRICANES.
11:05:26AM I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR HEALTH INSPECTORS AND OTHER
11:05:29AM REGULATORY INDIVIDUALS TO ASSESS THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE
11:05:32AM GOING TO BE REBUILT SO FUTURE GENERATIONS AND FAMILIES THAT
11:05:37AM MOVE INTO THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND DWELLINGS DON'T GET
11:05:40AM SICK WITH MOLD.
11:05:42AM ALREADY A FIRM WHERE I LIVE, CAPTIVA APARTMENTS IN TOWN N'
11:05:46AM COUNTRY IS DOING SPECULATIVE THINGS.

11:05:48AM AND ALSO LIKE TO ASK, WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE TOWN
11:05:51AM N' COUNTRY 33 --
11:05:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.
11:05:55AM IT IS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:05:56AM I CAN CONNECT YOU WITH A COUNTY COMMISSIONER.
11:05:59AM >> I GRACIOUSLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:06:00AM IF THE CITY CAN COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE AND INNOVATING
11:06:04AM WAYS TO POSSIBLY HAVE AN ESCROW ACCOUNT TO REALLOCATE FUNDS,
11:06:09AM POSSIBLY SALES TICKETS WHEN THERE IS A FOOTBALL GAME,
11:06:13AM BASEBALL GAME, POSSIBLY DIFFERENT THINGS SO WE DON'T HEAR
11:06:16AM THAT THERE'S NO MONEY AND THERE'S NO ALLOCATION FOR PEOPLE
11:06:19AM TO TRY AND BE PUT -- I KNOW THEY WON'T BE PUT BACK WHOLE,
11:06:25AM BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE CREATIVITY AND GOING OVER AND BEYOND,
11:06:28AM TRY TO HELP THE PUBLIC.
11:06:30AM I'M AN INDIVIDUAL.
11:06:31AM I KNOW I DON'T LOOK LIKE IT ON THE EXTERNAL, BUT I DO
11:06:35AM REPRESENT THE IMPAIRED COMMUNITY.
11:06:37AM THERE ARE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SUFFERING.
11:06:39AM I'M PRETTY SURE ALL OF YOU HAD EITHER SEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA
11:06:44AM OR DRIVEN AROUND IN YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND SEEN PEOPLE'S
11:06:48AM PERSONAL POSSESSIONS SITTING OUTSIDE.
11:06:50AM YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PHYSICAL.
11:06:51AM YOU'RE NOT REALLY SEEING WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRULY
11:06:55AM INTERNALIZING.
11:06:56AM THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY PUT IN BAD

11:06:59AM SITUATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUT IN A HORRIBLE SITUATION.
11:07:03AM I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT OVERALL MENTAL HEALTH.
11:07:06AM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T TAKE THIS TYPE OF
11:07:10AM PRESSURE.
11:07:10AM PEOPLE HOLDING ON FOR DEAR LONG JUST PAYING RENT, UTILITIES,
11:07:15AM INSURANCE AND SO FORTH, FOOD, THIS HAS UPROOTED INDIVIDUALS.
11:07:19AM JUST TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMPASSION WHEN YOU LEAVE THESE
11:07:22AM SEATS, JUST TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE NOT CURRENTLY
11:07:26AM ADDRESSING AND SEEING.
11:07:28AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HOPE YOU ALL CAN ADVOCATE FOR
11:07:33AM NON-CHECKED BOX AGENCIES TO HELP AND ASSIST THE COMMUNITY.
11:07:36AM WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, GOVERNMENT AFFILIATES THAT JUST CHECK
11:07:39AM BOXES TO CONSTANTLY GET REGULATORY GRANTS AND DONATIONS AND
11:07:43AM SO FORTH.
11:07:45AM TALKING ABOUT SOME REAL GRASSROOT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
11:07:47AM THAT KNOW PEOPLE AND THAT CAN GENUINELY HELP THEM INSTEAD OF
11:07:55AM PASSING IT OFF AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ALLOCATED
11:07:57AM SOMETHING.
11:07:58AM I'M SPEAKING FROM THE HEART, AND I DO HOPE THIS IS BEING
11:08:00AM RESONATED.
11:08:01AM MR. BILL CARLSON, I GRACIOUSLY APPRECIATE YOU STANDING UP
11:08:04AM AND SPEAKING FIRSTHANDEDLY ABOUT THE PUBLIC SPEAKING FIRST.
11:08:08AM WHEN I CAME HERE OCTOBER 8, I PAID $13.50 FOR PARKING AND
11:08:12AM THEN GOT HIT WITH A $30 PARKING METER FOR LETTING BUSINESSES
11:08:17AM AND THE MILITARY COME OVER HERE AND SPEAK BEFORE THE PUBLIC.

11:08:20AM AS WE'RE AWARE, WHEN WE SEE THAT CHAIN OF COMMAND, SEE WHERE
11:08:24AM THE MAYOR IS AND WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE SITS.
11:08:27AM WHO SITS OVER THE MAYOR IS THE PUBLIC.
11:08:28AM THE PUBLIC TRULY NEEDS TO SPEAK FIRST SO ALL THESE DELEGATES
11:08:31AM CAN SIT IN HERE AND LISTEN TO US BECAUSE WHEN THEY ARE DONE
11:08:35AM THEY GET UP OUT OF HERE.
11:08:37AM THAT NEEDS TO BE A STANDARD.
11:08:39AM LIKE THE PUBLIC SPEAKS FIRST.
11:08:41AM I'M OVER HERE PAYING $7 FOR PARKING.
11:08:44AM WE ALL ARE.
11:08:44AM WE NEED TO SPEAK FIRST.
11:08:46AM WE'RE HOLDING ON TO OUR PENNIES.
11:08:48AM I GRACIOUSLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
11:08:50AM CAIRO AND FRIENDS.
11:08:51AM PRESIDENT OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, CAIRO AND FRIENDS,
11:08:56AM 813-323-1040, ANYBODY THAT HAS BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY
11:09:01AM EITHER ONE OF THE HURRICANES, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US AND
11:09:04AM WE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP OUT WITH SOME TYPE OF DONATION,
11:09:07AM CLOTHES, TOYS, SOMETHING TO GET YOU THROUGH.
11:09:09AM WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING, PEOPLE GOING TO SALVATION ARMY,
11:09:12AM GOODWILL, IF THEY ARE NOT WITHIN THAT ZIP CODE, THEY ARE
11:09:15AM TELLING THEM GO ELSEWHERE.
11:09:17AM THAT'S CONSIDERED SEGREGATION AT THIS POINT.
11:09:20AM I WANT TO HIGHLY STATE THIS, IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING GOING
11:09:22AM TO BE MATERIALIZED OR REACHED OUT, I THINK IT WILL BE

11:09:25AM ERRONEOUS DECISION THAT WILL BE MADE.
11:09:28AM I GRACIOUSLY APPRECIATE IT.
11:09:30AM AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
11:09:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:09:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:09:33AM GARRETT IS THE NEXT SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY STEVE MICHELINI AND
11:09:39AM KEN WISE.
11:09:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:09:44AM CAPTAIN GARRETT KULCQYCKI, UNITED STATES NAVY.
11:09:46AM I'M A U.S. NAVY SEAL STATIONED AT HEADQUARTERS ON MACDILL
11:09:50AM AIR FORCE BASE.
11:09:52AM HERE A PERSONAL CAPACITY.
11:09:54AM MY WIFE AND I WERE MOVED HERE BY THE MILITARY IN JULY OF
11:09:57AM LAST YEAR, 2023 WHO WELCOMED A NEW SON INTO THIS WORLD
11:10:01AM FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
11:10:02AM ALSO A FLORIDA NATIVE.
11:10:04AM GREW UP IN VERO BEACH FLORIDA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STATE
11:10:06AM ROAD 60.
11:10:07AM MY PARENTS MOVED INTO A HOME IN 1989 ON THE INTERCOASTAL
11:10:11AM WATERWAY.
11:10:11AM THAT HOUSE IS IN A FLOOD ZONE.
11:10:14AM INSURED BY CITIZENS BECAUSE IT'S UNINSURABLE BUT HAD
11:10:17AM MULTIPLE MAJOR HURRICANES HIT THEIR TOWN OVER THE YEARS
11:10:20AM INCLUDING TWO DIRECT HITS IN 2004 ABOUT TWO WEEKS APART THAT
11:10:25AM HAD OVER SEVEN FEET OF STORM SURGE.

11:10:27AM THAT HOUSE HAS NEVER HAD AN INCH OF WATER INTRUDE IN THE
11:10:30AM HOUSE IN THE ENTIRE 35 YEARS THEY HAVE OWNED IT.
11:10:33AM WE RECEIVED ORDERS HERE TO TAMPA.
11:10:35AM WE WERE EXCITED.
11:10:36AM LOVE THE TAMPA AREA.
11:10:37AM VIEW TAMPA AS A PLACE WE'D LIKE TO FINALLY SETTLE DOWN WHEN
11:10:40AM DONE WITH THE MILITARY LIFE.
11:10:42AM WE SEARCHED HARD.
11:10:43AM WE FOUND A HOME THAT WASN'T IN A FLOOD ZONE.
11:10:46AM IT WAS EVACUATION ZONE C OR EVACUATION ZONE C, FLOOD ZONE X.
11:10:51AM SITS JUST OVER 20 FEET ABOVE THE LOW WATER LINE.
11:10:54AM THAT HOUSE AFTER THE RAINS OF MILTON, TWO AND A HALF FEET IN
11:10:58AM THE GARAGE, A LITTLE OVER A FOOT OF WATER INSIDE THE HOUSE.
11:11:01AM WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE FLOOD DAMAGE, THE FOLKS THAT HAVE
11:11:04AM SPOKEN HERE, IT'S PRETTY EASY.
11:11:06AM I'VE GOT A DEGREE IN ENGINEERING BUT NOT A PRACTICING
11:11:10AM ENGINEER.
11:11:10AM YOU LOOK AT HOW IT FLOODED.
11:11:11AM THE CITY BASICALLY THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE, CONSTRUCTION,
11:11:14AM DEVELOPMENT, CREATED A NICE RETENTION POND THAT WAS OUR
11:11:17AM NEIGHBORHOOD AS ALL THIS WATER FLOWS IN.
11:11:19AM MY SIMPLE UNDERSTANDING, LACK OF DRAINAGE THAT'S BEEN
11:11:23AM HIGHLIGHTED.
11:11:24AM ALSO, WE'RE ON A PENINSULA.
11:11:27AM PRETTY EASY TO DESIGN WATER FLOW THAT FLOWS FROM A PENINSULA

11:11:30AM TO A BAY BARELY OVER A MILE AWAY IN A STRAIGHT LINE FROM MY
11:11:35AM HOUSE.
11:11:35AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:11:35AM I KNOW NOW THIS PROBLEM EXISTED NEARLY A DECADE.
11:11:41AM THE COUNCIL HAS KNOWN ABOUT IT AT LEAST NINE YEARS.
11:11:43AM OUR STREET APPARENTLY FLOODED IN 2015.
11:11:46AM OUR STREET HAD PARTIAL FLOODING THAT CAME HALFWAY UP OUR
11:11:49AM DRIVEWAY IN SEPTEMBER WHEN WE GOT SIX INCHES OF RAIN.
11:11:52AM NOT A STORM.
11:11:53AM I SPENT MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE DEFENDING THE FREEDOMS WE ALL
11:11:59AM HOLD DEAR, THAT YOU GUYS HOLD DEAR.
11:12:01AM I'M ASKING YOU GUYS OF THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE SOME TIME AND
11:12:04AM ACTUALLY DO YOUR JOB AND LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS WE'RE FACING
11:12:08AM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:12:10AM FIX THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU CREATED THAT'S CAUSED THE
11:12:12AM PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE HAD SO I DON'T HAVE TO FEAR GETTING
11:12:15AM SENT OFF TO PROTECT YOUR FREEDOM ON A MOMENT'S NOTICE AND
11:12:19AM LEAVE A WORKING MOM AND INFANT AT HOME IN A HOUSE TOTALLY
11:12:22AM RIPPED APART RIGHT NOW.
11:12:23AM THANK YOU.
11:12:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:24AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:12:25AM STEVE MICHELINI.
11:12:29AM KEN WISE.
11:12:36AM CHRISTINA CLEMANTS.

11:12:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:12:46AM IF YOU LOOK ON THE OVERHEAD, YOU'LL SEE THE DEDICATED LINE
11:12:51AM WORKERS WORKING AT NIGHT.
11:12:53AM AND THAT'S WHAT GOT OUR POWER BACK.
11:12:55AM THIS IS A CATASTROPHIC EVENT AND I THINK EVERYONE IN THE
11:12:58AM CITY WAS AFFECTED.
11:13:00AM YOU'VE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS WHO TALKED ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL
11:13:03AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:13:03AM THE ENTIRE CITY WAS AFFECTED.
11:13:05AM I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE FROM DAVIS ISLAND TALK ABOUT THE
11:13:08AM ENTIRE ISLAND BEING INUNDATED.
11:13:11AM THE HOUSES THAT SURVIVE WERE THE ONES THAT MET THE NEW FEMA
11:13:14AM REGULATIONS.
11:13:15AM THE ASSOCIATES THAT I WORK WITH AND SOME OF THE ASSOCIATIONS
11:13:19AM ARE STANDING BY TO ASSIST THE CITY TO WORK ON SOLUTIONS.
11:13:24AM I'VE REACHED OUT TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND
11:13:28AM GIVEN THEM THE SAME OPPORTUNITY.
11:13:30AM THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE.
11:13:32AM THIS IS A COMMUNITY ISSUE, AND WE'RE STANDING BY TO HELP,
11:13:36AM AND THAT INCLUDES THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.
11:13:38AM MY HAT GOES OFF TO THE CITY STAFF FOR WHAT THEY HAVE TRIED
11:13:42AM TO DO.
11:13:44AM YOU CANNOT CORRECT THE SITUATION THAT IS HISTORIC.
11:13:48AM YOU CAN'T CORRECT THE SITUATION THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MORE
11:13:51AM THAN 50 YEARS OR 20 YEARS OVERNIGHT.

11:13:55AM YOU CANNOT PLAN FOR A HUNDRED YEAR OR 200 YEAR EVENT.
11:14:00AM IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
11:14:02AM MY HAT GOES OFF AND MY SORROW GOES OFF TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
11:14:06AM WERE ADVERSELY AFFECTED.
11:14:08AM WE'RE SORRY THAT IT HAPPENED.
11:14:09AM MY OWN PROPERTY WAS FLOODED, BUT I'M NOT POINTING MY FINGER
11:14:14AM AT OTHER PEOPLE AND SAYING IT'S YOUR FAULT THAT THAT
11:14:18AM HAPPENED.
11:14:19AM ALL OF US HAVE TO GET TOGETHER.
11:14:20AM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ASSIST IN ANY WAY I CAN.
11:14:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
11:14:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:26AM KEN WISE.
11:14:27AM CHRISTINA CLEMANTS, DEBRA COLEMAN.
11:14:34AM >> MY NAME IS KEN WISE.
11:14:36AM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:14:38AM REMEMBER THE HEIGHTS PART.
11:14:40AM I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE TALKING ABOUT FLOODING.
11:14:47AM FLOODING, YEAH, IT'S BAD.
11:14:50AM REMEMBER THE HEIGHTS PART.
11:14:53AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT I, YOU KNOW, WASN'T, YOU KNOW, GOING TO
11:14:57AM HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH BECAUSE I LIVE IN SEMINOLE
11:14:59AM HEIGHTS.
11:15:03AM I NOTICE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, THEY ARE THE SOUTH OF KENNEDY
11:15:09AM CROWD SO I CAN'T REALLY MUSTER A LOT OF SYMPATHY FOR THEM

11:15:13AM BECAUSE THEY MAKE A LOT MORE.
11:15:16AM HAVE A LOT MORE ACCUMULATED ASSETS AND A LOT MORE VALUABLE
11:15:20AM HOUSES THAN I DO.
11:15:21AM WE DID HAVE A WOMAN EARLIER TALK ABOUT TREES.
11:15:25AM THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
11:15:28AM THE FLOODING DIDN'T KNOCK THE LIGHTS OUT IN THE WHOLE CITY
11:15:32AM OF TAMPA.
11:15:33AM TREES DID.
11:15:35AM WE HAVE AN OVERGROWN FOREST.
11:15:39AM THE OTHER WOMAN BROUGHT UP HOW TREES ARE GOOD.
11:15:42AM TREES ARE A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
11:15:44AM THEY GO AND COOL THE PLACE, THEY SUCK UP A LOT OF WATER.
11:15:48AM THEY FALL DOWN, TAKE OUT POWER.
11:15:52AM YOU HAVE A GUY IN CHARGE OF GOING AND KEEPING TREES.
11:15:58AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, I MET THEM ONE TIME WHEN WE WERE TRYING
11:16:00AM TO GET A TREE CUT DOWN AND HE WOULDN'T LET US.
11:16:03AM WE HAVE ANOTHER GUY THAT'S IN CHARGE OF TRIMMING TREES.
11:16:08AM I'M SURE THEY HAVE AN ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP.
11:16:15AM YOU NEED TO FIRE THE GUY THAT WANTS TO KEEP THE TREES AND
11:16:19AM GIVE HIS MONEY, HIS SALARY, STUFF AND BUDGET TO THE GUY THAT
11:16:23AM KNOWS HOW TO TRIM TREES AND LET HIM GO AND GET, BECAUSE IN
11:16:28AM MY LITTLE CLUSTER, IN MY DINKY LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN A
11:16:32AM QUARTER MILE, TEN HUGE TREES WENT DOWN.
11:16:36AM WHAT THEY ALL HAD IN COMMON, THEY WERE WATER OR LAUREL OAKS
11:16:40AM LIKE THE OTHER WOMAN MENTIONED.

11:16:42AM THEY WERE ALL HOLLOWED OUT.
11:16:44AM THEY WERE ALL ROTTEN.
11:16:47AM THEY ONLY HAVE 70 YEAR LIFE SPAN.
11:16:51AM ALL PAST THE HARVEST DATE.
11:16:53AM WHAT YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE A PRIORITY, LOOK, THIS WAS A
11:16:59AM CAT 3 THAT HIT AS A CAT 3, 70 MILES FROM HERE.
11:17:04AM IF IT WAS A CAT 4, HEAVEN FORBID A CAT 5 THAT HIT, DIRECT
11:17:10AM HIT, WE'D HAVE MET A LOT MORE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE DAMAGE.
11:17:19AM IN FACT, POWER WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE OUT RIGHT NOW.
11:17:22AM WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS MAKE A PRIORITY OF HARVESTING BACK
11:17:26AM THE OLD AND SICK TREES.
11:17:29AM ALLOW PEOPLE ON THEIR OWN DIME, ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY TO
11:17:33AM TAKE THE TREES DOWN.
11:17:35AM GET THE GUY THAT'S IN CHARGE OF KEEPING THEM TRIMMED.
11:17:40AM GIVE HIM MORE MONEY AND LET HIM PICK THE ONES ON THE
11:17:44AM PROPERTY TO GET RID OF AND THEN PLANT MORE TREES.
11:17:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:17:48AM CHRISTINA CLEMANTS, DEBRA COLEMAN, MILTON ESPINOSA.
11:17:53AM IS CHRISTINA CLEMONS HERE?
11:17:58AM I SEE NO.
11:18:00AM DEBRA COLEMAN.
11:18:01AM >> DEBRA COLEMAN.
11:18:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP.
11:18:03AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:18:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.

11:18:04AM MY NAME IS DEBRA COLEMAN.
11:18:06AM I AM A RESIDENT OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:18:13AM ON OCTOBER 9, HURRICANE MILTON CAME THROUGH AND FLOODED MY
11:18:18AM HOME.
11:18:19AM WE HAD 18 -- SORRY, 15 TO 18 INCHES OF WATER INTRUSION.
11:18:25AM I LIVE IN FLOOD ZONE X.
11:18:29AM I AM IN EVACUATION ZONE C.
11:18:32AM I WANT THAT TO REALLY RESONATE WITH YOU ALL.
11:18:37AM THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE HOME HERE.
11:18:42AM THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT EVACUATED TO THIS AREA TO REMAIN SAFE
11:18:48AM DURING THIS STORM.
11:18:48AM WE HAD 15 TO 18 INCHES OF WATER INTRUSION.
11:18:58AM WE HAVE LOST OUR WHOLE FIRST FLOOR OF OUR HOME.
11:19:03AM MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE LOST THEIR ENTIRE HOMES.
11:19:08AM WE DID NOT HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE.
11:19:12AM ALL OF OUR WATER REMEDIATION WILL COME DIRECTLY OUT OF
11:19:16AM POCKET.
11:19:20AM NOW, WE HAVE HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE TODAY DISCUSS THAT THIS
11:19:23AM PROBLEM HAS BEEN -- THIS STORM DRAIN ISSUE HAS BEEN A
11:19:27AM PROBLEM, POTENTIALLY FOR 10, 20 YEARS.
11:19:37AM WE CAN CALL THIS A HUNDRED-YEAR STORM, BUT THE FLOODING THAT
11:19:45AM OCCURRED DURING THIS STORM IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT HAPPENED
11:19:48AM WHEN THE BAY WAS FOUR FEET BELOW PREDICTED WATER LEVELS.
11:19:56AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:19:56AM THAT, ALONG WITH GRAVITY SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED STORM DRAINS TO

11:20:04AM EMPTY TO THE BAY.
11:20:06AM SO WHAT HAPPENED?
11:20:07AM WHAT'S GOING ON?
11:20:10AM IS THERE AN OBSTRUCTION IN THE STORM DRAINS?
11:20:13AM OR IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE NOT APPROPRIATE TO DRAIN FIVE
11:20:19AM INCHES OF RAINWATER?
11:20:22AM HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO BUILD IN THIS AREA IF IT'S NOT
11:20:30AM APPROPRIATE TO HANDLE FIVE INCHES OF RAINWATER?
11:20:34AM I CAME HERE TODAY TO ASK THAT YOU ALL ADDRESS THIS
11:20:45AM IMMEDIATELY.
11:20:46AM THERE IS NO MORE 10, 20 YEARS TO SIT AND INVESTIGATE.
11:20:51AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:20:52AM LIKE, LET'S GET SOMEONE DOWN THERE IN THE DRAINS TO FIGURE
11:20:58AM OUT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING AND THEN LET'S START A SOLUTION.
11:21:00AM IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD OR WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OUT.
11:21:03AM YOU WANT TO BUILD TAMPA BAY, FIX THIS.
11:21:09AM THIS IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE.
11:21:13AM YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WE NEED THIS TO STAY.
11:21:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:20AM >> THANK YOU.
11:21:21AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:21:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS MILTON ESPINOSA, ROBIN LOCKETT,
11:21:28AM METESNOT.
11:21:29AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:21:31AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:21:32AM >> MY NAME IS MILTON ESPINOSA.
11:21:34AM I'M HERE TO DISCUSS AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH MY RENTAL
11:21:39AM PROPERTY.
11:21:40AM I RESIDE IN PASCO COUNTY.
11:21:43AM I AM HERE TO ADDRESS ONGOING ISSUES WITH MY RENTAL PROPERTY
11:21:46AM MANAGED BY A COMPANY THAT IS NOT EVEN BASED IN FLORIDA.
11:21:49AM ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE AN OFFICE IN TAMPA, DURING THE INITIAL
11:21:52AM WALK-THROUGH I MADE CONCERNS ABOUT WATER DAMAGE UNDER THE
11:21:55AM FLOORBOARDS AND AROUND THE BASE BUT ASSURED ME THERE WAS NO
11:21:59AM PROBLEM.
11:21:59AM LATER DISCOVERED IT WAS INDEED A PROBLEM.
11:22:01AM THE WATER DAMAGED FLOOR WAS CAUSED BY A PLUMBING ISSUE,
11:22:06AM SPECIFICALLY IN THE MIDDLE ROOM WHICH WOULD OVERFLOW AND
11:22:08AM THEN WHEN IT RAINED IT ALLOWED WATER TO POUR INTO THE HOUSE
11:22:12AM EXACTLY WHERE THE WATER DAMAGED FLOORS WERE QUESTIONED.
11:22:15AM THIS MAY HAVE EXACERBATED THE MOLD IN THE FLOORBOARDS WHICH
11:22:19AM WAS ALREADY POSSIBLY THERE TO BEGIN WITH.
11:22:22AM ALSO, ADDITIONALLY, MINE CLAIMED THEY FIXED OR REPAIRED
11:22:27AM LEAKS IN THE ROOF BUT LEAKS PERSISTED CAUSING MORE MOLD.
11:22:31AM DESPITE AWARE OF THE ISSUES PRIOR TO MY COMPLAINTS, MINE IS
11:22:34AM NOW DEMANDING BACK PAY FOR RENT REDUCTION THAT RESULTED FROM
11:22:38AM AN ADMINISTRATIVE ERROR ON THEIR END.
11:22:40AM I HAVE RECEIVED MULTIPLE EVICTION LETTERS FROM MIND WHICH I
11:22:44AM HAVE BEEN ADVISED TO IGNORE WHILE WE FIGURE OUT THE PAYMENT
11:22:47AM SITUATION.

11:22:47AM I HAVE REPOSTED -- I REPORTED THE PEOPLE TO THE BBB -- AND
11:22:53AM CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:22:53AM MINIMAL STANDARD LIVING TOLD ME HURRICANE VICTIMS TAKE
11:22:57AM PRIORITY EVEN THOUGH I SUBMITTED MY REPORT WEEKS PRIOR TO
11:23:01AM THE HURRICANES HITTING.
11:23:03AM I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY IS AFFECTED BY THE HURRICANE.
11:23:05AM I AM TOO AFFECTED BY THE HURRICANE.
11:23:07AM I HAVE A TREE ON MY HOUSE.
11:23:08AM I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT I LIVE WITH MY FIANC E AND
11:23:12AM BABIES IN THESE UNSAFE LIVING CONDITIONS.
11:23:15AM MIND YOU, I'VE LIVED IN MULTIPLE HOUSES IN THE TAMPA BAY
11:23:19AM AREA.
11:23:20AM WHILE THIS ONE MAY BE THE WORST MANAGED SIMILAR FOLLOW SUIT.
11:23:25AM STANDARD OF LIVING IS DECLINING WHILE RENT IS INCREASING.
11:23:28AM IT IS LARGELY DUE TO PREDATORY BUSINESS PRACTICES FROM
11:23:31AM COMPANIES LIKE MIND.
11:23:33AM OPERATE WITH IMPUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE ACCEPTED AS NEW
11:23:42AM STANDARD OF LIVING.
11:23:42AM PEOPLE FROM OUT-OF-STATE DO NOT SHARE THE COMMITMENT TO OUR
11:23:45AM LOCAL POPULATION.
11:23:46AM I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING PROBLEMS AND DEMAND
11:23:49AM FOR BACK PAY REFLECT UNREASONABLE, UNETHICAL BUSINESS
11:23:53AM PRACTICES.
11:23:53AM THESE CONDITIONS HAVE MADE MY HOME UNSAFE.
11:23:56AM ME AND MY FAMILY ARE FINANCIAL STRAIN FROM BACK PAY DEMAND.

11:24:02AM IT IS UNREASONABLE.
11:24:03AM I'M ASKING THE TAMPA BAY CITY COUNCIL TO HELP RESOLVE THESE
11:24:06AM MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND STEP IN BECAUSE CLEARLY CODE
11:24:08AM ENFORCEMENT AND NOBODY ELSE IS.
11:24:11AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:24:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:24:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, YOU ARE IN PASCO COUNTY.
11:24:22AM MY ASSISTANT WILL MEET YOU OUTSIDE AND GIVE YOU THE
11:24:25AM INFORMATION FOR -- WE'RE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:24:30AM >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:24:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:34AM ROBIN LOCKETT, METESNOT, MAEGEN LUKA, THE LAST SPEAKER.
11:24:41AM GOOD MORNING.
11:24:41AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:24:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:24:44AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
11:24:46AM I COME BEFORE YOU AS THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF FLORIDA
11:24:55AM RISING, A TAXPAYER AND CITIZEN.
11:25:01AM I WANT TO FIRST THANK ALL OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS, JUST
11:25:07AM SEEING THEM, JUST BACKING UP, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I WAS NOT
11:25:13AM AFFECTED BY THE STORM.
11:25:14AM I HAD LIGHTS, JUST SO HAPPENED MY LIGHTS -- MY UTILITIES ARE
11:25:18AM UNDERGROUND.
11:25:19AM SO I WASN'T -- I DIDN'T LOSE MY ELECTRICITY AND I WAS NOT IN
11:25:24AM A FLOOD ZONE.

11:25:25AM BUT I WANT TO THANK THE FIRST RESPONDERS.
11:25:27AM I WANT TO THANK ALL THE LINEMEN THAT CAME OUT FROM
11:25:31AM EVERYWHERE JUST SEEING TRUCKS COME FROM CANADA, VERMONT,
11:25:35AM JUST THE WHOLE SLEW.
11:25:36AM I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.
11:25:38AM FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE DEPARTMENT, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
11:25:41AM JUST EVERYBODY JUST FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK.
11:25:44AM CITY STAFF AND EVERYONE ELSE, CITY OF TAMPA.
11:25:47AM THIS IS A BIG ONE, AND THIS IS A CHANCE FOR US TO BE FORWARD
11:25:56AM THINKING.
11:25:57AM I'M COMING FROM A DIFFERENT SPACE.
11:25:59AM I'M NOT COMING BECAUSE SOUTH TAMPA FLOODED.
11:26:03AM I'M COMING BECAUSE NORTH TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS AND EAST
11:26:08AM TAMPA NEGLECTED.
11:26:11AM THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
11:26:12AM AS COUNCILMAN VIERA STATED THIS MORNING, ABOUT TIMBERFALLS
11:26:19AM BEING FLOODED OUT, THAT WHOLE -- FOWLER BEING FLOODED OUT.
11:26:24AM SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE KNOCKED ON DOORS.
11:26:30AM FLORIDA RISING KNOCKED ON DOORS DOING WELLNESS CHECKS ON THE
11:26:34AM COMMUNITY JUST TO FIND OUT HOW THEY WERE DOING, WHAT THEIR
11:26:37AM CONCERNS WERE AND IF WE CAN HELP.
11:26:39AM IF THEY NEED A BAG OF PAMPERS OR A WATER OR WHATEVER.
11:26:43AM MYSELF AND DIANNE HART, REP HART, WENT UP AND DOWN SULPHUR
11:26:48AM SPRINGS STREETS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRICITY.
11:26:51AM THEY DIDN'T HAVE WATER.

11:26:53AM DEBRIS EVERYWHERE.
11:26:57AM WE WENT UP AND DOWN THOSE STREETS TAKING FOOD.
11:27:01AM IF YOU STOPPED AND HELPED ONE, 20 CAME.
11:27:04AM AND THE WORD THEY SAID WAS THANK YOU.
11:27:10AM WE THOUGHT YOU FORGOT ABOUT US.
11:27:12AM BECAUSE NO ONE HAD BEEN OVER THERE.
11:27:14AM REP HART WAS TRYING TO GET A COMFORT STATION.
11:27:20AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS WITH THAT, BUT WHAT I NOTICED
11:27:23AM WAS IN REGARDS TO THE RELIEF SITUATION, AL BARNES PARK,
11:27:29AM YEAH, LOPEZ PARK AND SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOTHING ON THE EAST
11:27:34AM SIDE.
11:27:35AM NOTHING ON THE NORTH SIDE.
11:27:37AM WELL, WEST IS THAT.
11:27:41AM WHERE WAS THE HELP FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WAS DEALING
11:27:44AM WITH THAT?
11:27:46AM I KNOW YOU ALL WON'T STOP ME.
11:27:49AM I HEARD THAT A COMMUNITY HAD SHOWERS -- SHOWER STALLS
11:27:58AM BROUGHT OUT TO THEM.
11:28:00AM THERE HAS TO BE A WAY YOU THINK ABOUT THIS SO EQUITY IS
11:28:03AM PROVIDED, NOT JUST FOR THE SOUTH.
11:28:05AM IT'S FOR THE NORTH, EAST, AND WEST.
11:28:08AM BECAUSE EVERYBODY PAYS -- ARE TAXPAYERS.
11:28:12AM SOME FORM OR FASHION.
11:28:14AM NO, EAST TAMPA IS NOT IN THERE.
11:28:16AM SO I'M SPEAKING FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE PROBABLY STILL

11:28:20AM ROBBING PETER, PAYING PAUL AND LIGHTS OUT, THROWING ALL
11:28:25AM THEIR FOOD OUT AND HAVE NO RESOURCES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
11:28:29AM WHAT THEY'LL DO NEXT.
11:28:30AM THERE HAS TO BE A WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO THINK THROUGH THESE
11:28:34AM THINGS OR SET UP A SYSTEM.
11:28:37AM 1917, 1921, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST STORM HIT, THOSE ARE
11:28:41AM THE TWO DATES -- YEARS TO STICK WITH ME.
11:28:46AM THERE HAS TO BE A PLAN FROM THAT TIME UNTIL OCTOBER THE 9
11:28:49AM WHEN THE HURRICANE HIT.
11:28:51AM WHAT IS THE PLAN IN PROTECTING THE CITIZENS?
11:28:53AM BECAUSE IF THAT STORM HIT US, WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE
11:28:59AM TODAY.
11:29:00AM WE WOULDN'T.
11:29:01AM WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
11:29:03AM I'M DISAPPOINTED.
11:29:06AM I THINK IN REGARDS TO RENTERS, THERE HAS TO BE A WAY THAT
11:29:11AM THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT CHARGED WHOLE AMOUNT OF MONEY
11:29:18AM TO THE RENTERS, THAT THEY HAVE TO BE MANDATED TO HAVE
11:29:21AM GENERATORS.
11:29:22AM NOT GENERATORS JUST TO RUN THE ELEVATORS UP, BUT THE
11:29:27AM GENERATORS TO POWER THE WHOLE ENTIRE UNIT.
11:29:31AM PEOPLE'S APARTMENTS.
11:29:32AM THERE HAS TO BE A WAY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
11:29:34AM THEY ARE CHARGING A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY SO THEY
11:29:39AM SHOULD BE MANDATED TO DO THAT.

11:29:40AM FLOOD ZONES.
11:29:43AM NO REASON WHY, SHE'S AWAKENED AT NIGHT BECAUSE SOMEBODY
11:29:50AM CONTACTED HER BECAUSE HER CAR IS FLOATING DOWN THE
11:29:55AM APARTMENT, IN THE APARTMENT FLOATING SOMEWHERE.
11:29:57AM DEBRIS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:30:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:30:04AM >> I KNOW YOU AIN'T GOING TO STOP ME.
11:30:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAD THREE MINUTES AND I DIDN'T SAY A
11:30:08AM WORD.
11:30:08AM >> I KNOW.
11:30:09AM BUT YOU LET SOMEBODY ELSE STAY UP HERE FOREVER.
11:30:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE WITH MS. LOCKETT.
11:30:15AM WE SEEM TO HAVE DISREGARDED THE RULES SO WE SHOULD LET HER
11:30:19AM SPEAK.
11:30:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:30:23AM >> NOW I'M MAD.
11:30:24AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T CALL IT AN
11:30:37AM INVESTIGATION BECAUSE INVESTIGATION SCARES PEOPLE BUT
11:30:40AM SOMETHING HAS TO BE LOOKED INTO IN REGARDS TO FINDING OUT
11:30:44AM WHAT HAPPENED AND REALLY FINDING OUT WHAT HAPPENED, NOT
11:30:46AM BEING AFRAID OF WHAT THE COST IS FINDING OUT WHAT HAPPENS
11:30:53AM AND HOW TO PREVENT IT.
11:30:55AM WE CAN STOP THE DISASTER FROM HAPPENING FROM A HURRICANE,
11:30:59AM MITIGATE THOSE SITUATIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
11:31:05AM [ APPLAUSE ]

11:31:05AM MY CONCERN IS THE SENIORS.
11:31:09AM I WANT TO THANK MAYOR CASTOR.
11:31:10AM JUST SO HAPPENED ON THE PHONE WITH HER.
11:31:14AM THE SENIOR APARTMENT DOWNTOWN, THEIR ELEVATOR WENT OUT
11:31:20AM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE POWER.
11:31:22AM JUST SO HAPPENED I WAS ON THE CALL AND SHE HEARD SOMEONE
11:31:26AM TELLING ME THAT.
11:31:27AM THEIR POWER WAS OUT.
11:31:29AM THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR THE MAINTENANCE OR WHOEVER IT WAS
11:31:32AM SAID THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY.
11:31:35AM THIS WAS SATURDAY.
11:31:35AM SO WE'RE DELIVERING FOOD TO THAT LOCATION.
11:31:40AM I SEE THESE SENIORS TRYING TO GET DOWN STAIRS TO GET FOOD.
11:31:46AM THERE HAS -- HOW DO WE PROTECT PEOPLE FROM IDIOTIC PEOPLE
11:31:52AM THAT RUN APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND SO FORTH WHO ARE NOT
11:31:56AM PROTECTING THEM, NOT PROTECTING PEOPLE THAT PAID THEM THEIR
11:31:59AM RENT.
11:32:00AM SO THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
11:32:03AM THANK YOU FOR MY ADDITIONAL TIME, EVEN THOUGH YOU TRIED TO
11:32:08AM KICK ME OUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR MY ADDITIONAL TIME.
11:32:11AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:32:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WAS THAT METRO APARTMENTS?
11:32:14AM >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
11:32:16AM OH, AND COLUMBUS, I WANT TO THANK THE OWNERS OF COLUMBUS
11:32:24AM COURT APARTMENTS.

11:32:25AM I THINK IT WAS CENTRAL COURT APARTMENTS.
11:32:27AM THEY FED, THEY CATERED FOOD AND THEY SENT FOOD OUT THERE
11:32:33AM BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THOSE APARTMENTS DIDN'T HAVE
11:32:36AM ELECTRICITY AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NO MEANS TO COOK.
11:32:40AM BUT THEY SENT CONAN'S BARBEQUE, SENT PEOPLE OUT THERE TO
11:32:45AM FEED INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE APARTMENT.
11:32:49AM PEOPLE YOU ARE MAKING MONEY OFF OF, THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS.
11:32:53AM THEY ARE FORWARD THINKING TRYING TO PROTECT THOSE
11:32:55AM INDIVIDUALS.
11:32:55AM THANK YOU.
11:32:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:56AM YES, SIR.
11:32:58AM MENTESNOT, FOLLOWED BY MAEGEN LUKA.
11:33:02AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:33:04AM I WANT TO SAY UHURU, MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
11:33:08AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
11:33:11AM FREEDOM.
11:33:11AM I WANT TO SAY THAT -- I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
11:33:17AM FOR WHAT SHE DID DURING THE STORM.
11:33:18AM DON'T HAVE TO ELABORATE ON IT.
11:33:21AM JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR THAT.
11:33:22AM ONE THING I ALWAYS TEACH MY KIDS IS TO BE GOOD AND BE BLACK.
11:33:27AM DON'T EVER LIE.
11:33:28AM ALWAYS BE TRUTHFUL, BE HONORABLE, BE GOOD TO OTHER PEOPLE.
11:33:33AM DON'T DRINK ANY ALCOHOL.

11:33:36AM DON'T INDULGE IN ANY TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
11:33:40AM DON'T DO ANY DRUGS AND DON'T COMPROMISE YOURSELF.
11:33:43AM IT'S NOT GOOD TO LIE.
11:33:45AM I WAS SO ANGRY DURING THE STORM BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE
11:33:50AM PERSONAL NUMBER OF THE TOW TRUCK DRIVER.
11:33:53AM I CALLED HIM TO MOVE MY ROLLS-ROYCE AND HE TOLD ME HIS
11:33:57AM LIGHTS WERE OUT AND DEALING WITH A FAMILY SITUATION BECAUSE
11:34:00AM HIS HOUSE WAS GETTING FLOODED.
11:34:02AM I WAS SO ANGRY ABOUT THAT.
11:34:04AM I CALLED A COMPANY AND FILED A COMPLAINT AGAINST HIM AND
11:34:11AM THEY MADE HIM COME OUT AND MOVE MY ROLLS-ROYCE IMMEDIATELY.
11:34:14AM YES.
11:34:18AM I WISH IF IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE HIGHER I CAN COMPLAIN TO TO
11:34:25AM REALLY GET HIM FIRED.
11:34:28AM COULD NOT IMAGINE THAT THIS MAN, THIS PERSON GAVE RESISTANCE
11:34:41AM TO REMOVING MY ROLLS-ROYCE FROM BEING PROTECTED FROM THE
11:34:44AM STORM.
11:34:46AM THAT'S HOW THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT'S HOW THIS CITY ACTS.
11:34:53AM WHEN THE PEOPLE GET READY TO SPEAK, THEY GOT UP AND THEY
11:34:57AM LEFT.
11:35:00AM AND THE IGNORANT PEOPLE IN HERE ARE TALKING ABOUT STORM AND
11:35:05AM HURRICANES AND STUPIDITY.
11:35:09AM IT'S ACTUAL STUPIDITY, TALKING ABOUT A CATEGORY 3, CATEGORY
11:35:13AM 4, CATEGORY 5, MY HOUSE GOT FLOODED, THIS HAPPENED, THAT
11:35:19AM HAPPENED, TREE FELL DOWN.

11:35:22AM IGNORAMUS.
11:35:25AM INCONSIDERATE.
11:35:26AM NO CONSIDERATION.
11:35:27AM NO CONNECTION TO THE WORLD WHATSOEVER.
11:35:30AM IT'S A HURRICANE CATEGORY 1,000 TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW IN
11:35:35AM PALESTINE.
11:35:36AM MAN-MADE CATEGORY 1,000.
11:35:42AM STORM TAKING PLACE IN PALESTINE.
11:35:45AM AND PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR HOUSE GETTING FLOODED.
11:35:48AM BAYSHORE HAS ALWAYS FLOODED.
11:35:51AM HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY HAS ALWAYS FLOODED FOR 50 YEARS.
11:35:54AM THEY TALK 10, 15 YEARS.
11:35:57AM NO, FOR 50 YEARS PLUS.
11:35:58AM BAYSHORE FLOODS WHEN IT RAINS AND THEY HAVE TO CLOSE THE
11:36:02AM STREET OFF CONSTANTLY.
11:36:04AM EVERYTHING IN SOUTH TAMPA AND IN HYDE PARK IS FLOODING WHEN
11:36:07AM IT'S RAINING.
11:36:08AM WHEN IT'S SIMPLY RAINING AND THEY CAN'T FIX THAT PROBLEM.
11:36:11AM ALL THE NEIGHBORS ON BAYSHORE, SOUTH TAMPA, DEVASTATED BY
11:36:17AM THE RAIN, BY THE FIRST HURRICANE, BY THE SECOND HURRICANE.
11:36:21AM AND THE CITY COUNCIL DOES ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING
11:36:26AM ABOUT IT.
11:36:27AM IT'S A DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL, NOT ONLY IN THIS AREA.
11:36:32AM SO WE'RE NOT -- IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REPARATIONS, IF
11:36:37AM YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COMMUNISM, IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING

11:36:40AM ABOUT SOCIALISM, IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REPARATIONS FOR
11:36:45AM AFRICAN PEOPLE, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT NOTHING.
11:36:48AM IT'S GARBAGE TALK.
11:36:49AM NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
11:36:50AM PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT FLOODWATER.
11:36:54AM ALL MY FING LIFE FLOODING CENTRAL PARK, ROBLES PARK, EAST
11:36:59AM TAMPA.
11:37:00AM AND IT'S NOT ONLY FLOODING, IT'S SEWAGE.
11:37:04AM SEWAGE PROBLEMS.
11:37:06AM AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT IT.
11:37:08AM THERE IS A DIVERSE ECONOMY, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAY, HEY, I
11:37:17AM LIVE IN THE HEIGHTS AND THE ECONOMY UP THERE IS DIFFERENT
11:37:20AM FROM WHAT IT IS, THE SOCIETY PEOPLE LIVE DOWN HERE, INCOMES
11:37:23AM ARE DIFFERENT.
11:37:25AM SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL
11:37:31AM NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS.
11:37:35AM DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS.
11:37:37AM I'M SURE BILL GATES AND MYSELF HAVE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS.
11:37:41AM SO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPLY
11:37:47AM SOME COMMON SENSE AND RESOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS.
11:37:50AM LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, THE PEOPLE NEED TO SPEAK FIRST AND
11:37:55AM THE CITY STAFF NEED TO BE MADE TO STAY AND LISTEN TO WHAT
11:37:59AM THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.
11:38:00AM HOW DISRESPECTFUL THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WITH SO MANY PROBLEMS
11:38:04AM CAME DOWN TO CITY COUNCIL TODAY BECAUSE NORMALLY THESE

11:38:07AM CHAIRS ARE EMPTY AND THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL
11:38:13AM ALLOW THE CITY STAFF TO GET UP IN A WHOLE SECTION -- AND A
11:38:21AM WHOLE SECTION WALKED OUT OF HERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T GIVE AN
11:38:24AM F WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY OR HOW WE FEEL.
11:38:26AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:38:28AM NEXT IS MAEGEN LUKA.
11:38:30AM SHE WILL BE THE FINAL SPEAKER.
11:38:32AM GOOD MORNING.
11:38:35AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:38:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:38:36AM MY NAME IS MAEGEN LUKA.
11:38:39AM WHEN I CAME IN I HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MADE ME WANT
11:38:44AM TO WRITE THEM DOWN.
11:38:45AM DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
11:38:46AM IT IS NO ONE'S FAULT.
11:38:48AM THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A STORM LIKE THIS BEFORE.
11:38:50AM I AM NOT BLAMING THE GOVERNMENT.
11:38:52AM I AM 100% BLAMING THE GOVERNMENT AND I WANT TO DO A LITTLE
11:38:56AM FACT CHECKING.
11:38:57AM WHEN I BOUGHT MY TOWNHOME ON HABANA AVENUE IN 2003, THE
11:39:03AM THREE BLOCKS AROUND IT WERE PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
11:39:08AM THEY HAD LARGE YARDS THAT WOULD ABSORB WATER DURING
11:39:11AM RAINSTORMS.
11:39:12AM DEVELOPERS WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN PERMITS TO TEAR DOWN

11:39:15AM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND BUILD MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURES,
11:39:19AM PRIMARILY TOWNHOMES.
11:39:21AM THEY RUN FRONT TO BACK, CONCRETE DRIVEWAY, TEENY LITTLE
11:39:25AM STRIP OF YARD IN THE BACK, ZERO LOT LINE.
11:39:27AM I LOVE IT.
11:39:28AM IT IMPROVES MY PROPERTY VALUE.
11:39:30AM I DO NOT LOVE THAT THE CITY DID NOTHING TO IMPROVE THE
11:39:35AM INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN IT ALLOWED ALL THAT CONCRETE.
11:39:38AM SO, 12 YEARS AFTER I BOUGHT MY HOME, IN AUGUST 2015, MY
11:39:42AM TOWNHOME FLOODED.
11:39:44AM IT WAS NOT A HURRICANE LIKE WHAT WE EXPERIENCED WITH HELENE
11:39:48AM AND MILTON, IT WAS SEVERAL DAYS OF SUSTAINED RAIN.
11:39:52AM IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN CHECK AND THIS COUNCIL MEMBER
11:39:56AM OBJECTIVE FACT, 15 TO 20 INCHES DEPENDING ON YOUR ADDRESS OF
11:40:01AM RAIN OVER A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
11:40:04AM I HAD A NINE INCH WATER MARK INSIDE MY HOUSE IN AUGUST 2015.
11:40:10AM PLEASE, DO NOT TELL YOURSELVES THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
11:40:13AM YOU DIDN'T KNOW WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
11:40:16AM OVER THE NEXT NINE YEARS, THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES CONTINUED
11:40:19AM TO BE TORN DOWN AND TOWNHOMES CONTINUED TO GO UP IN THEIR
11:40:22AM PLACE.
11:40:23AM LAST THURSDAY, AGAIN, OBJECTIVE FACT, YOU CAN CHECK ON THE
11:40:27AM NOAA WEBSITE.
11:40:28AM WE GOT 11 TO 12 INCHES OF RAIN FROM MILTON.
11:40:31AM I HAVE AN 18-INCH WATER MARK INSIDE MY HOUSE.

11:40:34AM 8 INCHES LESS RAINFALL THAN IN 2015, DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF
11:40:39AM WATER INSIDE MY HOME.
11:40:41AM ON SEPTEMBER 4th OF THIS YEAR, NO HURRICANE.
11:40:46AM JUST A HEAVY RAINSTORM.
11:40:47AM THE WATER WAS IN MY GARAGE.
11:40:50AM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2015 AND 2024 IS THE AMOUNT OF
11:40:55AM CONCRETE AND THE LACK OF UPDATES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:41:01AM DO NOT TELL YOURSELVES THIS WAS NOT A KNOWN PROBLEM.
11:41:05AM THE CITY IS ABSOLUTELY AWARE OF THE PROBLEM IN THIS AREA.
11:41:08AM I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING, TOO.
11:41:11AM PARKLAND ESTATES WHERE MR. ADAMS LIVES AND MUCH TO HIS
11:41:14AM CREDIT HAS MADE HIS VOICE VERY KNOWN BORDERS MY
11:41:17AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:41:18AM THIS WAS NOT A 100-YEAR EVENT.
11:41:21AM MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS 21 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
11:41:24AM WE ARE IN FLOOD ZONE X.
11:41:27AM WE SHOULD NOT HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
11:41:30AM IF YOU DRIVE AROUND THIS FOUR-BLOCK RADIUS, MILLIONS OF
11:41:35AM DOLLARS OF PERSONAL PROPERTY, APPLIANCES, THE INSIDES OF
11:41:40AM PEOPLE'S HOMES ARE ON OUR CURBS.
11:41:42AM WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY THAT EVERY TIME IT RAINS, OUR
11:41:46AM HOMES ARE GOING TO FLOOD AGAIN.
11:41:49AM I AM ABSOLUTELY BLAMING THE GOVERNMENT.
11:41:52AM THE CITY PERMITTED THE INCREASE IN THE CONCRETE.
11:41:55AM THE CITY FAILED TO UPDATE THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE

11:41:57AM NECESSARY TO SUPPORT WHAT IT APPROVED.
11:41:59AM THE CITY HAS FAILED US.
11:42:03AM THE CITY HAS TAKEN OUR MONEY FOR A STORMWATER TAX.
11:42:07AM THE REASON THAT I AM HERE IS NOT TO YELL AT YOU.
11:42:11AM IT'S TO FACT CHECK YOU AND EMPOWER YOU.
11:42:14AM YOU ARE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGERS.
11:42:19AM YOU ARE THE ONES THAT CHECK THE CITY.
11:42:24AM PLEASE FIX THE PROBLEM AND DON'T DO IT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW
11:42:29AM BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I WILL WORRY EVERY
11:42:33AM TIME IT RAINS.
11:42:34AM I WILL TELL YOU THAT I PUT FLEX SEAL TAPE ON MY GARAGE AND
11:42:38AM EVERY DOOR TO MY HOME.
11:42:40AM I'VE TAPED UP VISQUEEN AND PUT DOWN SANDBAGS AND IT DIDN'T
11:42:44AM DO A DAMN THING TO KEEP 18 INCHES OF WATER OUT OF MY HOUSE.
11:42:50AM AND NOW EVERYTHING I OWN IS SITTING ON THE CURB.
11:42:54AM PLEASE, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO FIX THIS.
11:43:00AM THIS CITY EMPLOYS ENGINEERS.
11:43:02AM PLEASE CALL THEM OUT.
11:43:04AM WE NEED SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS SO THAT THE RAINSTORMS THAT ARE
11:43:07AM COMING STILL THIS YEAR DON'T FLOOD US.
11:43:11AM DIG DITCHES.
11:43:12AM CREATE RETENTION PONDS.
11:43:14AM THERE IS A GIANT PARKING LOT NEXT DOOR TO OUR BLOCK.
11:43:17AM SOMETHING COULD GO THERE.
11:43:19AM FIX THE PROBLEM PLEASE.

11:43:20AM WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, PICTURES SAY A THOUSAND WORDS, IF I PUT
11:43:24AM IT RIGHT HERE WILL YOU BE ABLE TO SEE IT?
11:43:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:43:29AM IT WILL COME UP IN JUST A SECOND.
11:43:32AM >> THAT IS OUR SEWAGE PUMP.
11:43:34AM IT'S APPROXIMATELY 150 FEET FROM MY DOOR.
11:43:38AM I DON'T KNOW WHICH GENIUS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO
11:43:41AM CREATE ONE THAT IS UNDERGROUND.
11:43:43AM I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE MAN THERE PUMPING THAT OUT TOLD ME
11:43:47AM THAT HE DOES THIS ALL OVER THE STATE, AND HE GAVE ME POLK
11:43:51AM COUNTY AND SARASOTA COUNTY AS TWO NEIGHBORING EXAMPLES WHEN
11:43:54AM HE SAID I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE.
11:43:57AM NORMALLY THESE ARE ABOVEGROUND AND THEY ARE ELEVATED.
11:44:00AM SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WHEN I HAD 18 INCHES OF WATER
11:44:04AM INSIDE MY HOME.
11:44:05AM IT WASN'T RAINWATER.
11:44:06AM IT WAS POO WATER.
11:44:08AM BECAUSE THE PUMP STATION 150 YARDS AWAY WAS COMPLETELY
11:44:13AM FLOODED BECAUSE IT'S UNDERGROUND.
11:44:16AM THIS IS MY REQUEST.
11:44:22AM IN A PARTISAN WORLD, I AM ASKING YOU ALL TO STAND TOGETHER
11:44:29AM TO FIX A PROBLEM.
11:44:31AM I HEARD YOU SPEAKING IN THE BEGINNING.
11:44:33AM YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
11:44:35AM YOU HAVE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

11:44:36AM YOU HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON, YOU LOVE THE CITY.
11:44:40AM PLEASE, GO VIRAL FOR BEING UNITED TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
11:44:50AM WE ARE EACH IN CONTROL OF HOW WE ARE REMEMBERED.
11:44:54AM YOU HAVE THE POWER TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF PROTECTION.
11:44:59AM YOU HAVE THE POWER TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF CREATING SOLUTIONS.
11:45:04AM YOU HAVE BEEN YELLED AT ALL MORNING LONG.
11:45:08AM I AM NOT YELLING AT YOU.
11:45:10AM I AM BEGGING YOU, FIX IT NOW.
11:45:15AM THANK YOU.
11:45:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:45:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:45:28AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:45:30AM I'M GOING TO GO INTO THE AGENDA.
11:45:32AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:45:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ITEMS 3-12.
11:45:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:45:46AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:45:47AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:45:48AM AYE.
11:45:48AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:45:49AM WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, 13-25, NOTHING WAS PULLED.
11:45:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:45:57AM I MOVE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
11:46:00AM ITEMS 13-25.
11:46:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER

11:46:04AM HENDERSON.
11:46:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:46:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:46:07AM AYE.
11:46:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:10AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE, BUT THEN YOU
11:46:13AM HAD ITEMS.
11:46:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M MOVING ITEMS 26 THROUGH 29 AND 32.
11:46:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 26 THROUGH 29 AND 32.
11:46:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE ONLY DOING 29 AND 32.
11:46:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY BRAIN IS FRIED LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
11:46:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHERE --
11:46:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE TIME.
11:46:42AM I AM PASSING OR I AM MOVING ITEMS 26 THROUGH 29 AND 32.
11:46:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:46:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:46:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
11:46:55AM AYE.
11:46:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEM NUMBER 30, I BELIEVE MR. INGRAM IS HERE.
11:47:04AM I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
11:47:13AM WE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT THIS THROUGH KOPESKY.
11:47:21AM THIS IS A MOTION TO MOVE $300,000 TO HAVE BASICALLY AN
11:47:27AM ASSESSMENT OF THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH WE'RE ALL
11:47:30AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
11:47:32AM 100% NEEDS TO BE DONE.

11:47:34AM ONLY THING I DIDN'T SEE IN THE SWOT -- I'M SORRY, INTO THE
11:47:37AM SCOPE OF WORK.
11:47:39AM WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THIS ASSESSMENT TO BE COMPLETED?
11:47:42AM >> DAVID INGRAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TAMPA CONVENTION
11:47:44AM CENTER.
11:47:44AM THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
11:47:47AM WE WANTED IT TO ALREADY BE DONE BY JANUARY.
11:47:50AM IT WILL PROBABLY BE DONE BY MARCH OF 2025.
11:47:53AM WE HAVE GIVEN THEM SIX MONTHS TO DO THE PHYSICAL ASSESSMENT.
11:47:56AM 300,000 IS ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF OUR OPERATING FUNDS
11:47:59AM SUBSIDIZED BY REVENUES WE GENERATE FROM OUR SERVICES.
11:48:01AM IT'S NOT IMPACTING THE GENERAL FUND.
11:48:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
11:48:06AM SO I WANTED TO FIND OUT THE DATE.
11:48:09AM I HAVE A MOTION THAT I'D LIKE TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
11:48:12AM I MOVE FOR STAFF TO OFFER INDIVIDUAL BRIEFINGS TO COUNCIL
11:48:16AM MEMBERS REVIEWING THE RESULTS OF THE ASSESSMENT REPORT NO
11:48:19AM MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AFTER THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER STAFF
11:48:24AM RECEIVES ITS STAGE 4 BRIEFING AND BEFORE THE RESULTS ARE
11:48:27AM PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.
11:48:29AM IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO?
11:48:32AM >> WE CAN DO THAT.
11:48:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
11:48:35AM THE IDEA IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT THEY ARE SAYING
11:48:39AM AND FOR US ABILITY TO SAY LET'S GO HARDER.

11:48:43AM JUST TO GET SOME OF OUR IMPACT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND OR I
11:48:46AM UNDERSTAND AND I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH MONEY WE
11:48:49AM CAN JUST FIXING THE CONVENTION CENTER, HOW MUCH REVENUE WE
11:48:55AM CAN THEN MAKE FROM THAT.
11:48:56AM I THINK ALL OF US WANT TO SEE OUR CONVENTION CENTER IMPROVED
11:48:59AM SO WE CAN START TO MAXIMIZE.
11:49:02AM >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
11:49:03AM AND WE'LL GET THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
11:49:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS THAT ATTACHED TO
11:49:08AM 30?
11:49:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS MOTION IS NOT ATTACHED -- WELL, I MEAN
11:49:12AM IT IS AND ISN'T.
11:49:13AM SINCE I ALREADY READ THE MOTION, IF WE COULD PASS THE MOTION
11:49:17AM AND THEN I WILL MOVE 30.
11:49:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM
11:49:20AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:49:21AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:49:22AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:49:24AM OPPOSED?
11:49:24AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:49:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEM 30.
11:49:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:49:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:49:30AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
11:49:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 31, ALSO ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

11:49:36AM THIS WAS THE RENOVATION.
11:49:41AM IT'S REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE WE GOT ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS
11:49:44AM BACK.
11:49:44AM IT IS REALLY WONDERFUL.
11:49:46AM I'M STILL TRYING TO WORK WITH MR. ROGERO TO FIND OUT EXACTLY
11:49:51AM WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY, THE EXTRA MONEY.
11:49:55AM BECAUSE SOME OF THIS WAS FINANCED.
11:49:58AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES TO PAY OFF BONDS.
11:50:00AM WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT WE
11:50:02AM WILL.
11:50:02AM BECAUSE THIS WAS SUCH A GIANT PROJECT AND AFTER THE GIANT
11:50:09AM PROJECTS WE'VE HAD, WHAT WE HAVE, SO, SAY, FOR THE WASTE TO
11:50:13AM ENERGY FACILITY, AFTER THAT WAS DONE, THEY CAME AND GAVE US
11:50:16AM A LITTLE POSTMORTEM, HOW DID IT WORK, HOW DID IT GO?
11:50:19AM BASICALLY I'M ASKING FOR THE SAME THING.
11:50:21AM I MOTION THAT STAFF WORK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET
11:50:24AM ANALYST TO CREATE A FIVE-MINUTE IN-PERSON REPORT TO PRESENT
11:50:28AM AN OVERVIEW OF THE RECENTLY COMPLETED $25 MILLION TAMPA
11:50:32AM CONVENTION CENTER RENOVATION PROJECT.
11:50:35AM THIS OVERVIEW SHOULD INCLUDE -- I FORGOT YOUR NEW NAME.
11:50:43AM MRS. HARRIS.
11:50:44AM THIS IS ALL WRITTEN DOWN JUST SO YOU KNOW.
11:50:46AM ITEM 1, PROJECT APPROVAL TIMELINE FROM 2020 TO 2024 DETAIL
11:50:51AM OF THE COST COMPONENTS FOR DESIGN SERVICES GMP 1, GMP 2 AND
11:50:56AM ANY CHANGE ORDERS WITH SKANSKA, DETAIL OF ADDITIONAL WORK

11:51:00AM THAT CONSUMED 1.75 MILLION IN SKANSKA CONTINGENCY FUNDS,
11:51:04AM DETAIL OF ANY NON-SKANSKA COSTS, DESCRIPTION OF DELIVERABLES
11:51:08AM ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
11:51:10AM FOR EXAMPLE, EXPANDED INTERNAL FLOOR SPACE, NEW MEETING
11:51:13AM ROOMS, HVAC UPGRADES, ET CETERA.
11:51:16AM NUMBER 6, KEY IMPLEMENTATION DATES AND REASONS FOR VARIANCES
11:51:19AM FROM ORIGINAL VENDOR DEADLINES.
11:51:20AM NUMBER 7, FINANCIAL COMPARISON OF BUDGET TO THE ACTUAL FOR
11:51:23AM PROJECT NUMBER 1001984, NUMBER 8, OPTIONS FOR THE USE OF THE
11:51:30AM UNUSED CAPITAL FUNDS SINCE THIS PROJECT WAS BONDED,
11:51:34AM INCLUDING BREAKOUT BETWEEN CRA AND NON-CRA PORTION.
11:51:37AM NUMBER 9, SOFT AND HARD BENEFITS THE CITY CAN EXPECT FROM
11:51:41AM THIS INVESTMENT.
11:51:42AM NUMBER 10, ANY OTHER PERTINENT DETAILS STAFF BELIEVES WOULD
11:51:46AM BE HELPFUL.
11:51:46AM I REQUEST THE DATE FOR THE PRESENTATION TO BE ON DECEMBER
11:51:49AM 19, 2024.
11:51:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:51:52AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:51:54AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:51:56AM OPPOSED?
11:51:56AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:51:58AM >> I'LL TRY TO GET THAT TO YOU.
11:51:59AM ONE THING IS, COMPONENT, THERE ARE THREE DEPARTMENTS.
11:52:02AM CAD, BUDGET ANALYST AND MYSELF.

11:52:06AM GETTING ALL THAT --
11:52:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF YOU NEED MORE TIME --
11:52:10AM >> CONNECTED, WE'LL TRY TO GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
11:52:12AM IF I NEED TO, I'LL COME BACK AND ASK FOR EXTENSION.
11:52:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: COME TO MY OFFICE AND DO AN EXTENSION.
11:52:18AM I AT LEAST WANT TO GET A DATE ON THE CALENDAR.
11:52:21AM I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:52:23AM I WANT TO MOVE ITEM 31.
11:52:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:52:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:52:30AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:52:31AM OPPOSED?
11:52:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:52:33AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING FOR THE
11:52:38AM CONVENTION CENTER.
11:52:39AM WE'RE VERY EXCITED.
11:52:40AM >> THANK YOU.
11:52:41AM IT'S BEEN A ROUGH COUPLE OF WEEKS JUST FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
11:52:44AM ONE THING A POSITIVE OUT OF THE STORY, WE ONLY HAD THREE
11:52:47AM GROUPS THAT OFFICIALLY -- THEY DIDN'T CANCEL.
11:52:49AM THEY ARE RESCHEDULING.
11:52:50AM ECONOMIC IMPACT LATER IN THE YEAR, CLOSER PROBABLY TO
11:52:54AM FEBRUARY/MARCH WE'LL SEE THE GROUPS COME BACK.
11:52:57AM THAT IS A POSITIVE STORY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:53:00AM THANK YOU.

11:53:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:53:01AM NEXT WE HAVE FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA,
11:53:04AM 33-38.
11:53:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 33-38.
11:53:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:53:10AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:53:12AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:53:12AM AYE.
11:53:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:53:17AM I WANTED TO COMMENT ON ITEM 38.
11:53:19AM I SEE MY FRIENDS AT THE BARBAS, NUNEZ, SANDERS, BUTLER &
11:53:19AM HOVSEPIAN FIRM.
11:53:23AM I CLERKED THERE WHEN I WAS I THINK A 24-YEAR-OLD, LIKE 22
11:53:28AM YEARS AGO, WHICH IS FUNNY.
11:53:30AM CITE THEIR AMAZING LEGAL WORK.
11:53:35AM SOME OF THE BEST.
11:53:36AM I DID WORKERS' COMPENSATION FOR MY FIRST I THINK TWO YEARS
11:53:39AM AS ATTORNEY.
11:53:40AM DEFENSE WORK.
11:53:41AM THEY ARE SOME OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS.
11:53:43AM ATTORNEY STEVE BARBAS IS RETIRING FROM PRACTICING LAW AFTER,
11:53:48AM GOSH, I THINK REPRESENTING OUR CITY OF TAMPA FOR 45 YEARS.
11:53:52AM IF YOU KNOW ME, YOU KNOW THAT WHEN I SAY I LOVE STEVE
11:53:56AM BARBAS, I LOVE STEVE BARBAS.
11:53:59AM HE IS ONE OF THE FINEST MEN I KNOW.

11:54:01AM WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL.
11:54:02AM I LOVE HIM A LOT.
11:54:04AM WANTED TO GIVE HIM IN PARTICULAR A SALUTE FOR 45 YEARS OF
11:54:07AM SERVICE TO CITY OF TAMPA IN WORKERS' COMPENSATION
11:54:11AM LITIGATION.
11:54:11AM I KNOW HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE VOTING RIGHTS CASE HERE IN THE
11:54:15AM CITY OF TAMPA THAT CREATED AT-LARGE SEATS.
11:54:17AM AND HE'S JUST ONE OF THE FINEST MEN I KNOW.
11:54:21AM I'M A BIG FAN.
11:54:23AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S NEIGHBOR, IN FACT, AND JUST ONE OF THE
11:54:26AM FINEST MEN I KNOW.
11:54:27AM JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
11:54:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE WHOLE BARBAS FAMILY IS GREAT.
11:54:31AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:54:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID.
11:54:36AM STEVEN BARBAS AND HIS FAMILY HAVE HELPED IN SO MANY WAYS IN
11:54:40AM THE COMMUNITY, BESIDES HELPING WITH WORKERS' COMPENSATION
11:54:42AM WORK, HE ALSO, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WAS CHAIR OF THE CAC IN
11:54:47AM YBOR FOR MANY YEARS.
11:54:48AM SHOWED GREAT LEADERSHIP.
11:54:50AM HIS WIFE IS AMAZING ALSO.
11:54:51AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA FOR A LONG TIME AND HELP WITH THE
11:54:55AM TRANSITION AND THE GREAT GROWTH OVER THERE.
11:54:57AM I THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO HONOR HIM IN SOME WAY.
11:55:01AM I KNOW YOU KNOW HIM BETTER THAN I.

11:55:03AM IF YOU MAKE A MOTION, I'LL SECOND IT.
11:55:06AM 45 YEARS, WHATEVER IT WAS, I THINK IT'S WORTH ACKNOWLEDGING
11:55:09AM THAT PUBLICLY.
11:55:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID WE VOTE UP TO 38?
11:55:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:55:19AM AYE.
11:55:19AM JUST SO WE KNOW.
11:55:21AM ITEM 39 THROUGH 43, 39 WAS PULLED AND THEN 40 COUNCILWOMAN
11:55:29AM HURTAK WILL RECUSE HERSELF AND 41 WAS PULLED.
11:55:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 42, 43.
11:55:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FOR 42 AND 43.
11:55:40AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:55:42AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:55:43AM AYE.
11:55:43AM 39 WE'LL GET TO AT STAFF REPORTS.
11:55:46AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:55:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD SOMETHING I WANTED TO SHOW FOR ITEM 41.
11:55:51AM MS. SHARP.
11:55:52AM THE QUESTION WAS FROM SOMEONE IN THE PUBLIC, WE APPROVED
11:55:56AM THIS ALREADY FROM A CRA PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE ARE MOVING,
11:56:00AM WHAT MONEY WE ARE MOVING.
11:56:02AM I DON'T KNOW IF MR. MASSEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT
11:56:05AM IT.
11:56:11AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:56:13AM THE SERVICES AGREEMENT IN LARGE PART IS SET UP SO THAT THE

11:56:30AM CRA COMPENSATES THE CITY FOR EMPLOYING THE CRA DIRECTOR AND
11:56:34AM THE CRA STAFF THAT'S NECESSARY TO DO THE WORK OF THE CRA.
11:56:38AM SO THE COST OF THOSE SALARIES ARE SHARED AMONG THE VARIOUS
11:56:42AM REDEVELOPMENT AREAS.
11:56:43AM IT'S DONE ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS.
11:56:46AM THE LARGEST PORTION COMES FROM THE LARGEST TIF, WHICH IS THE
11:56:52AM DOWNTOWN.
11:56:52AM THE NEXT LARGEST IS CHANNELSIDE, SO THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE ON
11:56:56AM A PERCENTAGE BASIS.
11:56:57AM IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY NUMBERS, THE SALARY -- SALARIES
11:57:01AM WOULD BE SHARED ACROSS THE REDEVELOPMENT AREAS IN THIS
11:57:06AM MANNER.
11:57:08AM SO THAT'S NUMERICAL NUMBERS.
11:57:10AM ADJUSTED DURING THE YEAR POTENTIALLY IF WE HIRE ADDITIONAL
11:57:13AM FOLKS, IF SALARIES ARE ADJUSTED.
11:57:16AM AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME OTHER COSTS THAT GET SHARED ACROSS
11:57:20AM THE CRAs AS WELL.
11:57:22AM THERE ARE ALSO SPECIFIC PROJECTS WITH THE CITY GETS
11:57:24AM COMPENSATED FOR FROM A PARTICULAR CRA.
11:57:28AM FOR INSTANCE, IF COMMUNITY POLICING IS DONE IN YBOR, THAT
11:57:31AM COMES OUT OF THE YBOR TIF.
11:57:33AM NOT SHARED ACROSS ALL THE OTHER TIFS.
11:57:36AM THIS IS HOW THE COST SHARING IS DONE FOR THE SALARIES AMONG
11:57:38AM THE VARIOUS REDEVELOPMENT AREAS.
11:57:40AM THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY YOU ALL.

11:57:44AM BECAUSE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND CRA, REQUIRES CITY
11:57:48AM COUNCIL APPROVAL AS WELL.
11:57:49AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
11:57:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE THE
11:57:53AM DOCUMENTATION GAVE THE PERCENTAGES, BUT NOT THE ACTUAL
11:57:56AM AMOUNTS.
11:57:57AM THAT WAS A QUESTION WE HAD GOTTEN FROM THE PUBLIC.
11:57:59AM I WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO SHOW.
11:58:01AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:58:02AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:02AM THAT WAS ALL I WANTED --
11:58:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE?
11:58:06AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:58:09AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:58:11AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:58:12AM AYE.
11:58:15AM 39 HAS BEEN PULLED.
11:58:16AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF ON 40?
11:58:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT THESE WERE BEING DONE AT STAFF
11:58:22AM REPORTS.
11:58:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, 39 AND 40.
11:58:25AM OKAY.
11:58:25AM I HAVE A NEW LIST HERE.
11:58:27AM ITEMS 44 THROUGH 46.
11:58:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEMS 44, 45, 46.

11:58:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:58:33AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:58:34AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:58:35AM AYE.
11:58:35AM WE'RE GOING TO SET SOME ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
11:58:45AM THERE IS ONE HERE, MAGISTRATE PROCEEDING PURSUANT TO SECTION
11:58:49AM 7051.
11:58:51AM IS THIS THE ONE SOMEBODY FROM PUBLIC COMMENT MENTIONED
11:58:54AM PUTTING TO JANUARY?
11:58:56AM >>CATE WELLS: YES, SIR.
11:58:58AM CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:58:58AM THIS ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY ON YOUR AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 3, AND
11:59:01AM AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL ASKED MY OFFICE TO GET WITH THE
11:59:05AM APPLICANT TO LOOK AT EVENING MEETINGS WHERE THIS COULD BE A
11:59:09AM STAND-ALONE ITEM SO IT WASN'T ADDED TO YOUR EXISTING EVENING
11:59:14AM MEETINGS.
11:59:14AM SO THEN WE WERE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL LAST
11:59:18AM WEEK.
11:59:18AM LAST WEEK'S MEETING GOT CANCELED, SO HERE WE ARE TODAY.
11:59:21AM IN CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMUNICATIONS WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE
11:59:25AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASKING THAT THIS NOT BE SCHEDULED UNTIL NEXT
11:59:29AM YEAR, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH JAKE CREMER WHO REPRESENTS THE
11:59:33AM RELATED GROUP.
11:59:34AM I KNOW NICOLE IS IN THE AUDIENCE IN THE EVENT YOU HAVE
11:59:37AM QUESTIONS.

11:59:38AM LOOKING AT POTENTIAL DATES.
11:59:42AM THERE'S NO GREAT DATE BECAUSE THE THURSDAY EVENING MEETINGS
11:59:46AM THAT ARE OPEN ARE THOSE EVENINGS THAT FOLLOW A REGULAR
11:59:51AM MEETING.
11:59:52AM LOOKING AT JANUARY, JANUARY 9 WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THIS
11:59:56AM ITEM COULD BE HEARD.
11:59:58AM AGAIN, THAT'S FOLLOWING A REGULAR MEETING.
12:00:01PM WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF TUESDAY NIGHTS.
12:00:06PM AND JANUARY 28 IS AVAILABLE WHERE ALL THE PARTIES TO THE
12:00:12PM PROCEEDING WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR A HEARING IF COUNCIL
12:00:15PM WANTED TO SCHEDULE IT ON A TUESDAY NIGHT.
12:00:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT KIND OF MEETING IS THAT FOLLOWING
12:00:19PM THURSDAY AFTER THE 28th?
12:00:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE 23rd IS EMPTY.
12:00:26PM >>CATE WELLS: 28 IS A TUESDAY.
12:00:27PM NEXT MEETING IS A WORKSHOP ON JANUARY 30.
12:00:30PM THEN YOU HAVE AN EVENING MEETING.
12:00:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EVEN THE 23rd, WHICH IS A NORMAL THURSDAY,
12:00:36PM WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SCHEDULED.
12:00:38PM WE HAVE ZERO STAFF REPORTS.
12:00:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SCHEDULED A BUNCH TODAY, THIS
12:00:42PM MORNING.
12:00:42PM >>CATE WELLS: I LOOKED AT THE 23rd, BUT THE APPLICANT WAS
12:00:46PM NOT AVAILABLE ON THAT DATE.
12:00:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO

12:00:51PM TUESDAY, JANUARY 28 --
12:00:53PM >>CATE WELLS: NOT TO CONTINUE IT.
12:00:55PM SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
12:00:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION WOULD BE JANUARY 28,
12:00:58PM 5:01 P.M., CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
12:01:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION.
12:01:03PM IS THIS BEFORE NOTICE?
12:01:05PM WOULD THEY HAVE TO NOTICE.
12:01:07PM >>CATE WELLS: YES.
12:01:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS A DIFFERENT DAY OF THE WEEK.
12:01:11PM >>CATE WELLS: THEY HAVE TO NOTICE IT.
12:01:13PM THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF SCHEDULING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO
12:01:16PM MAKE IT CLEAR THAT 30 DAYS' NOTICE AS YOU WOULD WITH A
12:01:21PM REGULAR REZONING ITEM.
12:01:23PM I CAME PREPARED WITH A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION WITH
12:01:26PM ALTERNATIVE DATES SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A DELAY IN SCHEDULING
12:01:30PM THIS.
12:01:31PM IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, I DO HAVE A SUBSTITUTE
12:01:34PM RESOLUTION THAT WOULD SCHEDULE THE HEARING FOR JANUARY 28,
12:01:38PM 2025, AT 5:01 P.M.
12:01:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE.
12:01:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET'S ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE AND WE'LL FILE
12:01:44PM IT.
12:01:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.
12:01:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.

12:01:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE ACCEPTS THE SUBSTITUTE.
12:01:50PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:01:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:01:51PM AYE.
12:01:52PM THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS SET FOR A TUESDAY, JANUARY 28,
12:01:57PM 5:01 P.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
12:02:01PM FLORIDA, 33602.
12:02:02PM >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU.
12:02:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:02:05PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:02:05PM NOW LET'S GET A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL
12:02:16PM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:02:17PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:02:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:02:19PM AYE.
12:02:20PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:02:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
12:02:27PM MS. WELLS WORKING WITH STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ARRANGE THAT AND
12:02:32PM TO HAVE A SUBSTITUTE READY TO GO.
12:02:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMEBODY TOLD ME WE'RE LUCKY -- PRIVATE
12:02:41PM FIRM CAN'T COMPARE WITH WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
12:02:44PM I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TOLD TO
12:02:48PM ME.
12:02:48PM THANK YOU TO ALL THE LEGAL FOLKS.
12:02:50PM YOU ARE REALLY FANTASTIC.

12:02:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
12:02:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND ALL THE VOLUNTEER WORK, MR. MASSEY,
12:02:58PM MS. WELLS AND SO MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE ENDLESSLY
12:03:02PM SERVING PEOPLE.
12:03:03PM ALL RIGHT.
12:03:04PM ITEM NUMBER 48 NEEDS TO BE SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
12:03:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WISH TO TAKE THIS
12:03:14PM UP FIRST, MY SUGGESTION IS, YOU SEE THE NOTE AT THE BOTTOM,
12:03:19PM APPLIES TO 48, 49, AND 50.
12:03:23PM THEY ALL REQUIRE BEFORE YOU DO SET THESE, IT'S BECAUSE OF
12:03:27PM THE CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE MEETING THAT WAS CANCELED, I WOULD
12:03:32PM REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND THE RESOLUTIONS
12:03:35PM THAT ARE SET FORTH BY NUMBER ON THE AGENDA.
12:03:40PM DO YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS --
12:03:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RESCIND 48, 49 --
12:03:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NO.
12:03:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I RESCIND RESOLUTION NUMBERS 2024-757,
12:03:49PM 2024-758, AND 2024-759 THAT WERE ADOPTED ON AUGUST 22, 2024.
12:03:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
12:03:59PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:04:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW YOU'RE READY TO TAKE UP THE NEW ONES.
12:04:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW MOVE ITEM 48.
12:04:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU COULD DO THEM TOGETHER.
12:04:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:

12:04:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 48, 49, 50.
12:04:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:04:15PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:04:17PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:17PM AYE.
12:04:18PM ANY OPPOSED.
12:04:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:04:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
12:04:23PM THESE ARE SECOND READINGS.
12:04:24PM THEY ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
12:04:27PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. -- LET'S GET A MOTION
12:04:31PM TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
12:04:33PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:04:34PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:04:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:36PM AYE.
12:04:36PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:04:37PM ITEM 51.
12:04:41PM >> ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
12:04:42PM THIS IS A SECOND READING ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER
12:04:45PM 22.
12:04:46PM THESE HAVE TO DO WITH ADA REQUIREMENTS AND STREAMLINING THE
12:04:53PM PROCESS.
12:04:53PM DIDN'T HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE FIRST READING BUT IN THE EVENT
12:04:56PM THAT YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS NOW, I'M HERE.

12:04:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:04:59PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 51?
12:05:04PM I SEE NO ONE.
12:05:05PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:05:06PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- ALL IN FAVOR?
12:05:12PM AYE.
12:05:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 51 -- [INAUDIBLE] ORDINANCE
12:05:20PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
12:05:22PM ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MAKING REVISIONS TO
12:05:24PM THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 22, STREETS
12:05:27PM AND SIDEWALKS, ARTICLE I, ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS,
12:05:30PM AMENDING SECTIONS 22-116 THROUGH 22-121 AND SECTIONS 22-123
12:05:37PM THROUGH 22-128 AND SECTIONS 22-132 THROUGH 22-133, PROVIDING
12:05:44PM FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
12:05:47PM CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
12:05:49PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:05:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:05:51PM MIRANDA.
12:05:52PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND HURTAK AND HENDERSON
12:05:55PM WERE YOU ABLE TO REVIEW?
12:05:56PM ALL RIGHT.
12:05:57PM PLEASE PUT YOUR VOTE.
12:06:02PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:06:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:06:08PM ITEM NUMBER 52.

12:06:10PM >> I'M HERE FOR 52 AS WELL AS IS MY COLLEAGUE MEGAN CALLOWAY
12:06:15PM FROM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
12:06:16PM I'M HERE FOR SUPPORT.
12:06:25PM >> MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION DIVISION.
12:06:29PM TWIGGS STREET BETWEEN ASHLEY AND TAMPA THAT PORTION WE'RE
12:06:34PM HAVING A SMALL PORTION THAT'S GOING TO BE REMOVED AS PART OF
12:06:38PM THE DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT GOING
12:06:40PM ON WHERE OLD FIRST WATCH USED TO BE AND THEY ARE GOING TO
12:06:43PM REMOVE ABOUT 2,000 SQUARE FEET OF BRICK, JUST A PORTION.
12:06:47PM AND THAT WAS TO ACTUALLY COINCIDE WITH OUR PROJECT.
12:06:50PM WE HAVE A TWIGGS STREET PROJECT THAT IS GOING ON DESIGN
12:06:53PM RIGHT NOW.
12:06:54PM THAT IS TO ALSO CORRESPOND WITH OUR PROJECT.
12:06:58PM THE PETITIONER, KAMI CORBETT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY
12:07:04PM QUESTIONS.
12:07:04PM THIS IS JUST A SMALL AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE REMOVED.
12:07:09PM AND WE GET THE BRICKS BACK BECAUSE THAT IS CITY PROPERTY.
12:07:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THEY ARE PALLETED.
12:07:16PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:07:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THIS BEING MOVED TO LIKE WIDEN THE
12:07:21PM SIDEWALK?
12:07:23PM >> YES.
12:07:23PM IT'S TO TIE INTO OUR CURRENT TWIGGS PROJECT.
12:07:27PM SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY ARE WIDENING THE SIDEWALK.
12:07:30PM WE HAVE A PROJECT CURRENTLY IN DESIGN.

12:07:33PM THEY ARE GOING TO TIE INTO OUR PROJECT FOR US IN THIS
12:07:36PM SEGMENT.
12:07:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE ADDING PROTECTED BIKE LANES.
12:07:39PM THAT'S ALL YOU NEEDED TO SAY.
12:07:41PM OKAY.
12:07:42PM >> AGAIN, IT'S IN DESIGN, SO IT COULD CHANGE.
12:07:46PM I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON THAT TOO MUCH.
12:07:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, WHEN YOU PUT A BIKE LANE, YOU KNOW
12:07:50PM BETTER.
12:07:51PM I'LL HOP RIGHT ON IT.
12:07:52PM THANK YOU.
12:07:53PM >> IT IS OUR INTENTION.
12:07:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:07:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MY QUESTION IS, SO WE AUTHORIZE THE
12:08:00PM REMOVAL OF THE BRICKS AND DO THIS.
12:08:02PM WHAT IS THE OBLIGATION THAT THIS SIDEWALK IS ACTUALLY
12:08:05PM CONSTRUCTED?
12:08:05PM SO ONCE THE DESTRUCTION HAPPENS, WHAT IF THE DEVELOPER FOR
12:08:11PM SOME REASON DOESN'T FULFILL THAT OBLIGATION.
12:08:15PM >> COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF THE
12:08:17PM SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW.
12:08:21PM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS.
12:08:23PM BUT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT JUST THE APPLICATION TO REMOVE THE
12:08:30PM BRICK.
12:08:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S MY POINT.

12:08:31PM WHY WOULD I APPROVE THE APPLICATION IF ANYONE --
12:08:36PM >> THEY WERE NOT TIED IN TOGETHER LIKE THAT.
12:08:41PM >> THAT'S TRUE, IF THEY ARE NOT TIED TOGETHER, AGAIN, YOU
12:08:43PM HAVE TO TAKE THAT AS A GRAIN OF SALT.
12:08:46PM ANOTHER PART IS THE CODE.
12:08:47PM THE DOWNTOWN CODE REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE A MINIMUM OF
12:08:49PM 10-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, BUT THIS PART OF THE PRIORITY OF THIS
12:08:52PM STREET MIGHT EVEN BE MORE THAN THAT.
12:08:54PM SO THE CODE ALONE REQUIRES ON CERTAIN STREETS, ON CERTAIN
12:08:58PM PRIORITIES WE HAVE A, B AND C STREETS.
12:09:00PM SORRY, I DID NOT KNOW WHICH ONE THIS IS.
12:09:04PM TOGETHER THEY HAVE TO HAVE A WIDER SIDEWALK.
12:09:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING FOR MS. CORBETT.
12:09:12PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CAN I JUMP IN A MINUTE, PLEASE?
12:09:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. FEELEY.
12:09:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:09:18PM THIS PROJECT, ONE TAMPA, HAS A BUILDING PERMIT.
12:09:22PM BUILDING PERMIT INCLUDES THOSE RIGHT-OF-WAY IMPROVEMENTS
12:09:24PM THAT SHOW THAT SIDEWALK.
12:09:27PM I KNOW MR. BARBER IS THERE.
12:09:29PM SO WE WOULD NOT ISSUE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OR OCCUPANCY
12:09:33PM ON THE BUILDING UNTIL THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN TYPICALLY
12:09:36PM WHAT WE DO IS BRING TO YOU THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR
12:09:39PM THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WOULD BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY
12:09:41PM BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO LANDSCAPING, BENCHES, OTHER THINGS THAT

12:09:44PM GO INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
12:09:47PM DUE TO THESE PROJECTS BEING BUILT AT ZERO LOT LINE SO THEN
12:09:52PM WE BRING THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU AS WELL.
12:09:55PM IT CORRESPONDS TO THE PERMIT FOR THE PROJECT, AND IT WILL BE
12:10:01PM CONSTRUCTED.
12:10:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS LONG AS THAT BUILDING GOES UP, THIS
12:10:04PM WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.
12:10:05PM THEY WOULD NOT GET AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT.
12:10:09PM 99.9% CHANCE THIS WILL OCCUR AS PLANNED.
12:10:13PM IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?
12:10:14PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
12:10:15PM [INDISCERNIBLE]
12:10:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:10:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT YOU SAID THAT THE BIKE LANE MAY NOT BE
12:10:23PM THERE.
12:10:24PM THAT'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED.
12:10:28PM >> THIS PROJECT, REMEMBER, THIS IS A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT
12:10:31PM WE HAVE ON TWIGGS FROM ASHLEY ALL THE WAY TO NEBRASKA.
12:10:34PM I BELIEVE THEY ARE CONTEMPLATING THE CYCLE CHECK, BUT,
12:10:38PM AGAIN, THEY ARE IN DESIGN.
12:10:39PM IT COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE TO SOMETHING ELSE.
12:10:42PM I'M NOT OVER THAT PROJECT.
12:10:44PM IT'S CURRENTLY IN DESIGN.
12:10:46PM IT MIGHT NOT BE EXACTLY THIS LAYOUT.
12:10:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THESE ARE TWO

12:10:52PM SEPARATE THINGS.
12:10:53PM >> YES.
12:10:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BRICK IS BEING REMOVED AND THEY ARE REQUIRED
12:10:56PM TO REPLACE IT WITH A SIDEWALK.
12:10:59PM THE BIKE LANE IS A SEPARATE PROJECT.
12:11:02PM >> CORRECT.
12:11:03PM EXACTLY.
12:11:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:11:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO REITERATE, SO WE CAN STILL SEE THE
12:11:13PM PICTURE, THE PICTURE ON TOP, THAT DIAGONAL LINED AREA, THAT
12:11:17PM IS THE ONLY PART THAT THE BRICKS WILL BE PULLED OUT AND
12:11:20PM BRICKS REMAIN ON THE REST OF THE STREET?
12:11:22PM >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
12:11:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE A FEW YEARS AGO THAT
12:11:25PM REQUIRES THAT BRICKS PULLED OUT ARE SAVED TO THE EXTENT THEY
12:11:28PM CAN, THAT THEY SHOULD USE A METHOD THAT PROTECTS THE BRICKS
12:11:32PM BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF BRICKS NEEDED IN OTHER AREAS,
12:11:34PM SO THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED IN THIS CASE.
12:11:37PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
12:11:37PM IT'S ALL PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
12:11:39PM THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PALLETIZE THE BRICK AND BRING IT BACK
12:11:42PM TO THE CITY.
12:11:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN GENERAL I'M AGAINST REMOVING BRICKS BUT I
12:11:47PM UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO MAKE THE CITY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AS
12:11:49PM WELL.

12:11:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M PRO BIG SIDEWALKS.
12:11:55PM AS LONG AS WE HAVE ASSURANCES IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED I THINK
12:11:58PM IT IS A GOOD PLAN.
12:11:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:11:59PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 52?
12:12:02PM YES, MA'AM.
12:12:03PM ARE YOU THE REPRESENTATIVE.
12:12:04PM >> KAMI CORBETT WITH THE LAW FIRM HILL WARD HENDERSON.
12:12:06PM I THINK ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
12:12:08PM THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT AS
12:12:10PM WELL AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
12:12:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:12:13PM IF THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OR COMMENT, CAN I GET A
12:12:16PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA -- COUNCIL
12:12:20PM MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION, ASK HE HAD FROM COUNCIL
12:12:21PM MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:12:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:12:23PM AYE.
12:12:24PM MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:12:26PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:12:27PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:12:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:12:30PM AYE.
12:12:31PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:12:31PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:12:33PM ITEM NUMBER 53 -- WELL, 53 AND 54 WE ARE CONTINUING.
12:12:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO MOVE -- DO THE MOTION TO
12:12:43PM CONTINUE THEM TO NOVEMBER 7.
12:12:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO -- YES.
12:12:46PM DO I NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE?
12:12:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
12:12:53PM AS LONG AS IT IS NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
12:12:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY REASON DIDN'T DO IT EARLIER BECAUSE
12:12:58PM OF THE 10:30 TIME.
12:13:00PM PUT YOUR MIKE ON.
12:13:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TEACHER IS GOING TO TEACH.
12:13:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
12:13:10PM JUST FOR DATE, TIME, LOCATION SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF IT
12:13:15PM AS WELL.
12:13:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE 53 AND 54
12:13:18PM TO NOVEMBER 7, 2024, 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT HERE AT
12:13:23PM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
12:13:26PM 33602.
12:13:28PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
12:13:30PM MIRANDA.
12:13:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:13:31PM AYE.
12:13:32PM ITEMS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
12:13:35PM ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
12:13:38PM IN ORDER, 39, 40, 41, 56 -- ITEM 39 IS FIRST.

12:13:47PM WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
12:13:49PM BUT 39 HAS BEEN PUT HERE BECAUSE IT IS $5 MILLION.
12:13:54PM DID YOU PULL IT?
12:13:55PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:13:58PM ITEM 39 IF YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF.
12:14:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED A COUPLE MORE BIG STORMS TO FRY MY
12:14:22PM BRAIN.
12:14:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, WE DON'T.
12:14:23PM MOTION TO STRIKE THAT.
12:14:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS MY CONCERN.
12:14:27PM I SPOKE WITH STAFF ABOUT IT AS WELL AND TALKED TO THE
12:14:30PM DEVELOPER OUT IN THE HALL.
12:14:31PM I UNDERSTOOD THAT IN FY '24 WE HAD MONEY BUDGETED FOR
12:14:41PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:14:45PM I WAS CONFUSED WHEN I READ THE DOCUMENTS AND THEY ARE
12:14:47PM TALKING ABOUT BONDING THIS AND THEN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
12:14:52PM INITIALLY WAS PLANNED AT 30 YEARS OF BONDING FOR 30 YEARS,
12:14:55PM 10 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE $20 MILLION.
12:14:58PM SO THAT MEANS MY GRANDDAUGHTER WILL PROBABLY BE OF
12:15:05PM CHILDBEARING AGE WILL STILL BE PAYING FOR THIS BOND.
12:15:09PM AGAIN, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED BECAUSE I THOUGHT IN FY '24 WE
12:15:14PM HAD MONEY BUDGETED FOR THIS AND FY '24 MONEY WITH THE $50
12:15:19PM MILLION.
12:15:24PM I THINK IT'S NO SECRET.
12:15:27PM I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS TYPE OF BONDING.

12:15:31PM I WOULD NOT HAVE AS BIG A PROBLEM IF IT WAS PAY GO.
12:15:35PM I THINK SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS IN PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT
12:15:38PM THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES IN THE
12:15:41PM CITY, WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
12:15:46PM IS THIS REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO BOND MONEY FOR?
12:15:52PM I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO REALLY THINK HARD ABOUT WHAT WE'RE
12:15:59PM BORROWING AND TO PAY FOR WHAT.
12:16:03PM I'VE SAID THIS MANY, MANY TIMES ABOUT BORROWING MONEY AS AN
12:16:08PM INVESTMENT FOR THINGS THAT RETURN MONEY BACK INTO THE
12:16:11PM COFFERS, BASICALLY RETURNS MONEY TO THE CITY.
12:16:14PM WHILE IT IS A GOOD PROGRAM AND I FULLY SUPPORT THE CONCEPT
12:16:18PM AND THE IDEA, IF WE HAD THE EXTRA MONEY WITHIN THE BUDGET TO
12:16:22PM PAY FOR IT, I THINK IT IS A GOOD PROJECT.
12:16:24PM I THINK THE DEVELOPER IS A GOOD DEVELOPER.
12:16:25PM I THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT.
12:16:27PM I JUST HAVE A REAL PROBLEM FISCALLY WITH BORROWING THE MONEY
12:16:32PM TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL.
12:16:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:16:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I TRIED TO TALK WITH MS. KOPESKY A LITTLE BIT
12:16:39PM ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
12:16:40PM THE STICKING POINT FOR ME IS THAT THIS SAYS IT IS A LOAN.
12:16:44PM I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE TAKING THIS OUT OF THE CLT.
12:16:50PM HONESTLY, WHAT I WANT PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE MORE TIME TO
12:16:55PM TALK ABOUT THIS.
12:16:56PM AND I DON'T BELIEVE STAFF -- I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO TALK TO

12:17:00PM US INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT THESE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM
12:17:03PM TO UNDERSTAND IT A BIT BETTER.
12:17:04PM I DON'T THINK DOING IT IN THE PUBLIC REALM IS A WISE
12:17:07PM DECISION.
12:17:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. FEELEY, WOULD THAT BE AMENABLE TO
12:17:10PM YOU, MEET WITH US AND FURTHER EXPLAIN WHERE THE MONEY IS
12:17:13PM COMING FROM AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED?
12:17:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:17:17PM ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND
12:17:19PM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
12:17:21PM ABSOLUTELY.
12:17:21PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO SET A DATE FOR WHEN TO BRING THESE TWO
12:17:26PM BACK --
12:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOVEMBER 7 OR MORE TIME?
12:17:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU AND I HAVE ALREADY HAD THE
12:17:33PM CONVERSATION.
12:17:34PM I KNOW SOME OF THE PROBLEM IS WHICH HAD PROPOSED A MILLAGE
12:17:37PM INCREASE THAT WE'D HAVE MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME AND THAT DID
12:17:41PM NOT PASS.
12:17:42PM I THINK THIS IS PART OF WHY THIS IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE OF
12:17:48PM THE ANTICIPATED REVENUE AND, OF COURSE, WE ALSO HAD A
12:17:51PM REVENUE SHORTFALL FOR FY '25.
12:17:54PM IT WASN'T AS GREAT AS WE HAD ANTICIPATED.
12:17:56PM WHAT DATE -- YEAH, I GUESS SO.
12:18:02PM BRING IT BACK WHEN?

12:18:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. KOPESKY, WHAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU.
12:18:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE COME UP TO THE LECTERN SO WE CAN
12:18:11PM GET IT ON THE RECORD.
12:18:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACCORDING TO THIS CALENDAR, NOVEMBER 21st
12:18:16PM IS AVAILABLE, BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS ACTUALLY
12:18:21PM TRUE.
12:18:21PM NOW THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THE HEARING ON DECEMBER 5, WE COULD
12:18:24PM DO DECEMBER 5.
12:18:28PM >> KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
12:18:31PM AS LONG AS THAT TIME FRAME WORKS FOR MS. FEELEY BECAUSE I
12:18:33PM KNOW THERE WILL BE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN ALL OF US, I WOULD
12:18:37PM HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT DATE.
12:18:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET'S DO NOVEMBER 5.
12:18:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE.
12:18:43PM >> 12-5.
12:18:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 39.
12:18:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE CALENDAR, THAT
12:18:50PM BRINGS YOU TO 8 ITEMS.
12:18:54PM AS LONG AS COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THAT, THAT'S FINE TOO.
12:19:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S KIND OF A TWO FOR ONE.
12:19:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS A CONSENT ITEM.
12:19:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHICH ITEMS?
12:19:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 39 AND 40.
12:19:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO THE 39 AND I HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM 40.
12:19:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 39 TO 12/5/2024.

12:19:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:19:21PM CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:19:21PM THIS IS JUST FOR 39 TO CONTINUE TO 12/5.
12:19:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:19:27PM SECOND BY ...
12:19:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 40 TO
12:19:34PM 12/5/2024.
12:19:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M RECUSING MYSELF BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR
12:19:41PM PROPERTY IS ON THE SAME BLOCK ON WHICH I RESIDE.
12:19:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT JUST GOT POWER THIS MORNING.
12:19:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY DO YOU HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF?
12:19:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE FOR ME I COULD HAVE FINANCIAL GAIN
12:19:54PM FROM THIS.
12:19:55PM I JUST BELIEVE IT.
12:19:57PM FOR ME, IT IS A CAUTIONARY TALE AND MEASURE SO I'M
12:20:01PM UNCOMFORTABLE BEING A PART OF THIS VOTE.
12:20:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:20:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MY --
12:20:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
12:20:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:09PM AYE.
12:20:10PM ITEM 40 YOU'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE.
12:20:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE TO 12/5.
12:20:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 40 TO 12/5 AND
12:20:19PM ACCOMPANYING 39.

12:20:20PM MOTION FROM CLENDENIN, SECOND MIRANDA.
12:20:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
12:20:27PM KICKING ME OUT OF THE WEBINAR ON THESE ITEMS.
12:20:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
12:20:35PM [INDISCERNIBLE]
12:20:35PM YOU GOT YOUR EXERCISE.
12:20:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEE YOU IN DECEMBER.
12:20:38PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:38PM AYE.
12:20:39PM THAT WAS JUST THE CONTINUANCE.
12:20:43PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT
12:20:45PM VOTE AND HURTAK ABSTAINING.
12:20:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
12:20:51PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:52PM ITEM NUMBER 41 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:20:58PM YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS?
12:21:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ALREADY DID AND WE VOTED.
12:21:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD.
12:21:04PM I'M SORRY.
12:21:04PM ITEM 56 AND 57.
12:21:06PM ITEM 56 AND 57 ARE VERY LARGE ITEMS.
12:21:16PM YES, SIR, I SEE YOU HERE.
12:21:18PM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD?
12:21:23PM >>ERIC WEISS: WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
12:21:25PM I'M HERE FOR ITEM 56.

12:21:27PM THIS IS THE SECOND TIME.
12:21:29PM IT IS A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT OVER 20 MILLION.
12:21:31PM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
12:21:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:21:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST -- YOU ALL WERE HERE TWO WEEKS AGO AND
12:21:39PM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
12:21:40PM IT'S BEEN A REALLY, REALLY LONG TWO WEEKS.
12:21:42PM FEELS MORE LIKE TWO MONTHS.
12:21:44PM I WANTED TO PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YES, WE DID TALK
12:21:46PM ABOUT THIS A LITTLE MORE IN-DEPTH WITH A PRESENTATION TWO
12:21:50PM WEEKS AGO.
12:21:51PM >>ERIC WEISS: WE DID, YES.
12:21:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
12:21:54PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:21:55PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:21:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:21:57PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:21:58PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:22:00PM THAT WAS FOR 56.
12:22:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: I ALSO WANTED TO SAY AND SHOULD SAY THIS TO
12:22:04PM ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, BUT THANK YOU FOR MAKING
12:22:06PM YOURSELVES AVAILABLE.
12:22:07PM WE HAD CONSTITUENTS WITH REALLY BAD ISSUES.
12:22:10PM YOU MADE YOURSELF AVAILABLE PRETTY MUCH 24/7 AND YOUR TEAM.
12:22:14PM SO THANK YOU.

12:22:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:22:15PM ITEM 57 IS $4.2 MILLION PROJECT.
12:22:18PM THIS IS REGARDING STREET RESURFACING AND MILLING.
12:22:21PM A GOOD THING.
12:22:23PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:22:23PM ANYBODY HERE FROM STAFF?
12:22:25PM ALL RIGHT.
12:22:27PM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 57.
12:22:30PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:22:31PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:22:33PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:22:34PM AYE.
12:22:35PM ANY OPPOSED.
12:22:35PM I THINK THAT CONCLUDES THE ENTIRE AGENDA.
12:22:40PM I HAVE MINOR STUFF.
12:22:46PM YES, LISA.
12:22:50PM THIS IS THE CANCELED WORKSHOP AGENDA JUST SO WE HAVE IT.
12:22:56PM IF I MAY BEGIN.
12:22:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I GET, MS. SCHARF, CAN YOU BRING MY
12:23:04PM PERSONAL PHONE SO I CAN LOOK UP CALENDAR DATES?
12:23:07PM THANK YOU.
12:23:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:23:11PM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
12:23:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:14PM SO WHILE WE WAIT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK TO GET HER

12:23:20PM PERSONAL PHONE, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT DATES TO RESCHEDULE THE
12:23:23PM WORKSHOP ITEMS FROM THE CANCELED SEPTEMBER 26 WORKSHOP.
12:23:27PM WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED HERE AS YOU SEE A CANCELED AGENDA FOR US
12:23:30PM TO REVIEW.
12:23:31PM WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SHELBY?
12:23:34PM CAN WE DO THIS AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING,
12:23:38PM NOVEMBER 7.
12:23:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, SURE.
12:23:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW OUR BRAINS ARE FRIED.
12:23:43PM YOU HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND STUFF.
12:23:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONCE I HAVE MY CALENDAR, I'M HAPPY TO SET IT
12:23:50PM AND LET'S JUST GET IT DONE.
12:23:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN THE MEANTIME, FOR ITEM NUMBER 6,
12:23:57PM WHICH I BELIEVE IS MY MOTION, I DON'T MIND MOVING THAT TO
12:24:02PM FEBRUARY 27, 2025.
12:24:03PM I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT TO CATCH UP ON IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
12:24:07PM IF THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER.
12:24:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
12:24:15PM WE JUST SCHEDULED AN EXTRA MEETING, THAT NIGHT MEETING ON
12:24:19PM THE 28th --
12:24:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TUESDAY THE 28th.
12:24:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY DON'T WE RESCHEDULE THAT WORKSHOP FOR
12:24:26PM THAT MORNING.
12:24:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT A GENIUS.
12:24:30PM 28th OF JANUARY BUT IT IS A TUESDAY.

12:24:32PM IT WOULD BE A 9 A.M. WORKSHOP AND THEN A 5:01 P.M. PUBLIC
12:24:38PM HEARING.
12:24:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LIKE OUR NORMAL ROUTINE.
12:24:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JANUARY 28.
12:24:45PM THE TUESDAY THAT WE HAVE THE 5:01 P.M. ITEM THAT WE JUST SET
12:24:49PM TODAY.
12:24:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN COME BACK.
12:24:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY WITH THAT, COUNCIL MEMBERS?
12:25:18PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:25:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT.
12:25:24PM THE STREETCAR -- WELL, THAT WILL BE TENTATIVE BECAUSE WE TRY
12:25:28PM TO FINISH BY 1, IF I CAN MAKE IT.
12:25:31PM TSA I'LL -- CAN I DRIVE THERE AND BACK.
12:25:34PM I'M GOOD WITH TUESDAY, JANUARY 28 AT 9 A.M. FOR THE
12:25:38PM WORKSHOP.
12:25:39PM FOR ITEM NUMBER 6, I CAN CONTINUE IT TO FEBRUARY 27, BUT
12:25:48PM IT'S SO CLOSE.
12:26:03PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:26:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M ON THAT BOARD, TOO.
12:26:07PM I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE ON THAT BOARD.
12:26:12PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:26:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION --
12:26:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO MOVE ALL AGENDA ITEMS
12:26:37PM PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2024, TO
12:26:42PM JANUARY 28 AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING.

12:26:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ITEM NUMBER 1 NEEDS TO BE SOONER THAN
12:26:53PM JANUARY BECAUSE THE CONTRACT EXPIRES IN APRIL.
12:26:56PM SO THAT IS THE CHALLENGE THAT I BROUGHT UP WHEN WE DISCUSSED
12:26:59PM IT BEFORE.
12:27:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE END OF A REGULAR
12:27:03PM MEETING?
12:27:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO DO THAT NOW SO IT CAN BE
12:27:08PM OFFICIAL.
12:27:10PM REMEMBER, WE SAID WE COULD ADD IT LIKE A NON-WORKSHOP DAY
12:27:13PM BUT HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.
12:27:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT NOVEMBER 21st?
12:27:18PM THAT IS A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
12:27:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN'T BE NOVEMBER 21st.
12:27:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RUNNING OUT OF DATE.
12:27:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S FLORIDA CLASSIC -- JUST KIDDING.
12:27:33PM I'LL TAKE NOVEMBER 21st.
12:27:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU MEAN THE FLORIDA CLASSIC THAT SHOULD
12:27:46PM BE BROUGHT BACK TO TAMPA.
12:27:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE AN EVENING MEETING THAT DAY.
12:27:50PM SO WE'RE DOING IT IN THE MORNING?
12:27:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT WE CANCELED THE EVENING.
12:28:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOVEMBER 21st HAS AN EVENING ON THE
12:28:07PM CALENDAR.
12:28:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A LARGE NIGHT MEETING.
12:28:19PM TEN ITEMS FOR THAT NIGHT.

12:28:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE CONTRACT EXPIRES IN APRIL.
12:28:29PM THEY ARE REDEVELOPING THE PLAN THEY ARE PRESENTING TO THE
12:28:34PM PUBLIC.
12:28:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DECEMBER 19 IS A REGULAR COUNCIL
12:28:36PM MEETING.
12:28:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS SOONER.
12:28:44PM THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME.
12:28:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, IF I CAN, JUST A REMINDER THAT
12:28:48PM EVEN THOUGH YOU DO HAVE A NIGHT MEETING, YOU DO HAVE ONLY
12:28:50PM FIVE STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS SET FOR NOVEMBER
12:28:54PM 21st OR DID WE ADD MORE?
12:28:58PM >> [INAUDIBLE] WE ADDED ONE TODAY TO NOVEMBER 21st.
12:29:03PM ACTUALLY IT WILL BE SIX.
12:29:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE ROOM FOR ONE MORE UNDER THE RULES
12:29:09PM FOR NOVEMBER 21st.
12:29:11PM THE LAST MEETING BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
12:29:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AMEND MY MOTION TO MOVE ALL THE ITEMS
12:29:26PM EXCEPT ITEM 1, MOVE THAT TO DECEMBER 21st.
12:29:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT DECEMBER.
12:29:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORRY.
12:29:32PM NOVEMBER 21st DURING STAFF REPORTS.
12:29:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:29:36PM CLENDENIN.
12:29:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:29:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:29:39PM AYE.
12:29:41PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:29:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS BEING A TUESDAY, MADAM
12:29:46PM CLERK, WOULD WE CALL THIS A SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP?
12:29:49PM THE MOTION WOULD CALL SPECIAL -- 9 A.M.
12:29:56PM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
12:29:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
12:30:03PM THIS IS NOT A MOTION, BUT IN REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT,
12:30:06PM I'M GOING TO BE GOING OUT TO ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AFTER
12:30:10PM I EAT SOMETHING BECAUSE I HAVEN'T EATEN SINCE YESTERDAY,
12:30:14PM GOING TO GO OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER CITY HALL.
12:30:18PM BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THE STORMWATER ENGINEERING FOLKS
12:30:23PM IN REGARDS TO PARKLAND ESTATES AND IN REGARDS TO THE AREA
12:30:27PM NORTH OF SWANN, NORTH OF AZEELE THERE THAT WAS FLOODED,
12:30:30PM WHICH IS HABANA, WHICH WAS HORATIO, THERE ARE OTHER STREETS
12:30:38PM THAT I HAVE A LETTER HERE.
12:30:40PM I CAN PUT IN THE RECORD.
12:30:42PM GIVEN AT PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:30:44PM SAYS WE SUPPORT A DESIGN AND PUBLIC INPUT PROJECT.
12:30:47PM WE OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT.
12:30:49PM THERE'S A LOT OF CONFLICT WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE
12:30:52PM WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT IT ONE WAY.
12:30:55PM ANOTHER STREET, LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS TO DO.
12:30:58PM WE'VE BEEN BLAMED THIS IS A FAILURE ON THE CITY.
12:31:00PM CAN YOU BEAT MOTHER NATURE?

12:31:02PM THAT IS A YES-OR-NO QUESTION.
12:31:04PM FOLKS GETTING LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER DURING A REGULAR
12:31:08PM RAINSTORM, I DON'T THINK REALLY IS -- THERE'S SOMETHING
12:31:13PM CLEARLY WRONG HERE.
12:31:15PM I'LL CHECK OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER THIS.
12:31:17PM I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD ASK THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT TO
12:31:19PM REEVALUATE THIS ENTIRE AREA AND LOOK AT ALL DIFFERENT
12:31:22PM OPTIONS AND WHAT WE CAN DO, EITHER REPRIORITIZING PROJECTS
12:31:26PM BECAUSE THE STORMWATER SYSTEM HAS BEEN IN PLACE ALMOST EIGHT
12:31:30PM YEARS.
12:31:30PM TO DO SOMETHING.
12:31:32PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, CLENDENIN, CARLSON.
12:31:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MIGHT RECOMMEND SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT
12:31:38PM MR. VIERA HAS DONE UP IN FOREST HILLS AND SIMPLY HAVE A
12:31:42PM COMMUNITY MEETING TO BEGIN WITH THAT INCLUDES --
12:31:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAD IT TODAY.
12:31:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DID HAVE IT TODAY BUT DIDN'T HAVE IT THERE.
12:31:53PM DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE COMMUNITY.
12:31:55PM QUITE FRANKLY, A BIG PART OF THE MEETING THAT HAPPENED AT
12:31:59PM FOREST HILLS WAS PEOPLE GETTING OUT WHAT THEY NEEDED TO SAY
12:32:05PM TO TAKING SOME IDEAS DOWN.
12:32:09PM THERE IS NEVER A TIME I THINK THAT LISTENING TO PEOPLE IS A
12:32:13PM BAD IDEA.
12:32:15PM BUT -- I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT NOW BECAUSE SEVERAL MEMBERS
12:32:24PM OF THE PUBLIC SAID THIS.

12:32:27PM WHEN PUBLIC COMMENT STARTED, EVERY DIRECTOR OF THIS CITY GOT
12:32:30PM UP AND LEFT.
12:32:32PM THAT IS NOT OKAY.
12:32:34PM THAT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK.
12:32:37PM I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE CONTROL A BUDGET.
12:32:44PM THE MAYOR AND THESE DIRECTORS PUT THAT MONEY WHERE IT NEEDS
12:32:47PM TO GO.
12:32:48PM THEY NEED TO BE HERE TO HEAR IT.
12:32:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.
12:32:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, I WOULD
12:32:55PM RECOMMEND --
12:32:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
12:32:58PM CLENDENIN, CARLSON, HENDERSON.
12:33:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PIGGYBACK A LITTLE ON WHAT HURTAK SAID, I
12:33:05PM WISH THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC.
12:33:07PM MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE SPOKEN AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE AT
12:33:10PM LEAST WE COULD HAVE SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT OF WHAT THE
12:33:13PM RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS COUNCIL IS.
12:33:16PM WE DO LAND USE.
12:33:17PM WE DO BUDGETS.
12:33:18PM BUT THE ACTUAL OPERATION OF THE CITY AND WHERE THAT MONEY IS
12:33:21PM SPENT AND HOW IT IS SPENT IS DONE BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
12:33:24PM I AGREE AS FAR AS THE LISTENING.
12:33:27PM I'VE BEEN BOUNCING THAT SAME CONCEPT, PUTTING TOGETHER A
12:33:33PM PUBLIC FORUM.

12:33:34PM I HAVE NOT DONE ONE YET.
12:33:36PM I'M STILL ENTERTAINING WHAT THE VALUE ADDED FOR MYSELF.
12:33:41PM A COUPLE OF US ARE CITYWIDE.
12:33:43PM I THINK SOMETIMES IT IS THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT PEOPLE, A
12:33:47PM LITTLE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN US THAT ARE CITYWIDE.
12:33:49PM CLEARLY -- I SAID THIS IN MY EARLIER STATEMENT AFTER THE
12:33:56PM ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
12:33:58PM WE ALL KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
12:34:00PM THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT, OH, A HURRICANE HIT.
12:34:03PM WE KNEW IT WAS COMING.
12:34:06PM THE CLOCK WAS TICKING.
12:34:07PM THE FLOODING THAT OCCURS -- NOW, THE FLOODING THAT OCCURRED
12:34:11PM IN SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE OF THE RAINFALL AND MILTON COMPOUNDED
12:34:17PM WHAT WE ALREADY KNEW WAS AN EXISTING CONDITION.
12:34:20PM THE CONDITION EXISTED.
12:34:22PM IT JUST WAS WORSE BECAUSE, AGAIN, NOT A SURPRISE BECAUSE
12:34:27PM I'VE LIVED IN SOUTH TAMPA FOR 39 YEARS.
12:34:30PM I LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:34:32PM I HAD SALTWATER FLOODING IN MY HOUSE AND SEWAGE, BY THE WAY,
12:34:36PM IN MY HOUSE.
12:34:37PM I FEEL EVERYBODY'S PAIN.
12:34:39PM THE DIFFERENCE IS I DO HAVE INSURANCE.
12:34:41PM MY HEART BREAKS FOR THE FOLKS THAT DON'T.
12:34:43PM I WAS UP IN FOREST HILLS.
12:34:45PM I TOURED A FAMILY'S HOUSE AND IT BROKE MY HEART BECAUSE THEY

12:34:48PM HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
12:34:50PM MOTHER, FATHER, THREE KIDS LIVING IN A COMPLETELY
12:34:53PM WATERLOGGED, WATER-SOAKED HOUSE THAT HAD POOP WATER
12:34:57PM INTRUSION BUT CAN'T AFFORD TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
12:35:01PM THIS WAS THEIR CASTLE.
12:35:04PM PROBABLY SCRAPED TOGETHER EVERY BIT OF RESOURCES.
12:35:07PM BROKE MY HEART.
12:35:08PM CRIED AFTERWARDS SEEING THAT CONDITION BECAUSE THEY HAD
12:35:11PM NOWHERE ELSE.
12:35:13PM I FORWARDED THAT INFORMATION TO CHIEF BENNETT TO SEE WHAT
12:35:16PM THE CITY COULD DO.
12:35:19PM BUT, AGAIN, THE PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH TAMPA, THE
12:35:27PM FOREST HILLS, FOWLER, ROBLES PARK, SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS,
12:35:31PM THE SOLUTION IS DIFFERENT.
12:35:34PM THE ELEVATION, THE STORMWATER PIPES GETTING FILLED, WHERE IS
12:35:40PM THE WATER GOING TO GO?
12:35:42PM DO YOU PUMP IT UPHILL TO A RETENTION POND?
12:35:44PM IF YOU GO DOWNHILL, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH PARKLAND
12:35:48PM ESTATES.
12:35:49PM ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF SWANN, GUESS WHICH WAY THE
12:35:52PM WATER GOES, HEADS TOWARDS PARKLAND ESTATES.
12:35:55PM THAT'S WHERE IT'S HEADING.
12:35:56PM WE'VE SEEN THAT SINCE -- I RAN ON A SOUTH TAMPA PLATFORM.
12:36:01PM YOU ALL KNOW THAT.
12:36:02PM WE'VE HAD A LOT ABOUT -- LOT SPLITS, OPPOSED FOR THIS VERY

12:36:08PM REASON.
12:36:09PM I'M ALL ABOUT BUILDING DENSITY ALONG TRANSPORTATION
12:36:11PM CORRIDORS BECAUSE IF WE CONCENTRATE THE DENSITY ALONG THESE
12:36:14PM LARGER TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND STRATEGIC AREAS OF THE
12:36:17PM CITY, WE CAN BUILD THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE TO
12:36:20PM ACCOMMODATE THESE TYPES OF EVENTS.
12:36:23PM I DON'T SEE HOW IN THE WORLD YOU CAN'T BUILD STUFF IN SOUTH
12:36:27PM TAMPA BECAUSE WHERE IS THE WATER GOING TO GO.
12:36:29PM ONE THING, I KNOW SOMEONE SAID ABOUT FLOWING TO THE BAY, THE
12:36:32PM PROBLEM IS AGAIN THE BAY GOES UP INTO THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.
12:36:37PM UNLESS WE PUMP IT AWAY FROM THE BAY AND UPSTREAM, BECAUSE I
12:36:41PM WATCHED IT, WE HAVE A STORMWATER RETENTION POND IN FRONT OF
12:36:45PM MY PLACE AND I WATCHED THE LEVEL OF WATER RISE WITH NO
12:36:48PM RAINFALL.
12:36:49PM I CAN SEE BECAUSE THE GROUNDWATER.
12:36:51PM RIGHT NOW, THE GROUNDWATER IS SO HIGH THAT LITERALLY YOU
12:36:54PM COULD DIG EIGHT INCHES BELOW THE GROUND AND YOU'RE HITTING
12:36:59PM GROUNDWATER.
12:37:00PM THERE IS NOWHERE FOR THE FREAKIN' WATER TO GO.
12:37:03PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SHORT TERM -- I HONESTLY, ENGINEERING
12:37:06PM IS DIFFICULT.
12:37:08PM I THINK THE COST OF THIS IS DIFFICULT.
12:37:10PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION FOR SOME OF
12:37:12PM THESE PLACES.
12:37:13PM SOME OF THE MORE OBVIOUS PLACES AGAIN AS WE GET FURTHER AND

12:37:17PM FURTHER AWAY FROM THE BAY, AREAS THAT ARE 55 FEET, 60 FEET,
12:37:23PM I'M SURE THERE ARE STORMWATER RETENTION THINGS, PUMPS,
12:37:27PM MAKING SURE WE HAVE GENERATORS.
12:37:29PM THOSE KIND OF THINGS WE CAN DO TODAY AS A CITY, IF WE CAN
12:37:33PM FIND THE MONEY.
12:37:36PM I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
12:37:38PM SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE ENGINEERED.
12:37:42PM I DON'T THINK IT'S AS OBVIOUS AND NOT AS SIMPLE AS SOME
12:37:45PM PEOPLE MAKE IT OUT TO BE.
12:37:47PM THESE AREAS HAVE BEEN PLAGUED BY FLOODS.
12:37:51PM ONE OF THE FRESHWATER FLOOD EVENTS IN PARKLAND ESTATES
12:37:55PM MONTHS AGO I WANTED TO SEE HOW BAD IT WAS.
12:37:58PM I ALMOST FLOODED OUT MY CAR JUST GOING THROUGH DURING A
12:38:03PM NORMAL RAIN EVENT.
12:38:04PM IT WASN'T LIKE A TEN INCH RAIN EVENT.
12:38:07PM IT WAS LIKE A THREE INCH RAIN EVENT.
12:38:09PM AND THERE WERE FLOODED OUT CARS.
12:38:11PM WATER WAS ALL THE WAY UP TO PEOPLE'S THRESHOLDS AND THAT WAS
12:38:15PM A NORMAL RAIN EVENT.
12:38:17PM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
12:38:20PM WE'RE BLESSED BY ALL THE WATER SURROUNDED.
12:38:22PM MAJOR RIVER RUNNING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY.
12:38:25PM LOOK AT THAT ENGINEERING PROJECT WITH THE BYPASS CANAL.
12:38:28PM CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE CITY WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DIDN'T
12:38:30PM HAVE THAT BYPASS CANAL AND THE CITY DIDN'T MANAGE AND DRAW

12:38:35PM DOWN WATER AND DO THE THINGS THEY DID PRIOR TO STORM.
12:38:41PM PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS FAR AS THE
12:38:43PM SCOPE AND SCALE.
12:38:45PM AS WE GET INTO THIS CLIMATE CHANGE DRIVEN FLOODING, THIS
12:38:49PM ISN'T GOING TO BE THE FIRST TIME THIS HAPPENS.
12:38:52PM I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYBODY TELLING ME ONCE EVERY HUNDRED
12:38:57PM YEARS, EVERY 300 YEARS.
12:38:59PM THESE WILL BE CYCLING EVERY YEAR OR EVERY OTHER YEAR.
12:39:03PM WELCOME TO THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:39:04PM WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT AND UNDERSTAND WHATEVER
12:39:07PM INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT FIXES THIS, AIN'T GOING TO BE CHEAP.
12:39:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:39:11PM JUST TO CLARIFY, REQUEST BY THE CHIEF OF STAFF THAT STAFF DO
12:39:17PM THE PRESENTATION AND GO.
12:39:19PM IT WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.
12:39:21PM WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT.
12:39:24PM I GET IT.
12:39:25PM THE SUGGESTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND OTHERS, LIKE
12:39:28PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA DID, COMMUNITY MEETING, DID IT GET
12:39:31PM PASSIONATE AND HEATED?
12:39:32PM ABSOLUTELY.
12:39:32PM BUT IT WAS A NECESSARY THING.
12:39:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE OF THE CONCEPTS AS I WAS PLAYING WITH
12:39:40PM THE IDEA OF DOING THE TOWN HALL WAS NOT NECESSARILY HAVING
12:39:43PM STAFF THERE BECAUSE AGAIN I THINK PEOPLE'S EXPECTATION IS

12:39:45PM STAFF CAN DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW.
12:39:49PM ALLOWING PEOPLE TO TALK.
12:39:51PM TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT WERE YOUR OBSERVATIONS?
12:39:54PM HOW DID THIS IMPACT YOUR LIFE?
12:39:56PM WHAT DID YOU SEE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:39:59PM WHAT HAVE YOU OBSERVED?
12:40:01PM I THINK THAT IS VALUABLE.
12:40:04PM VALUES IN TWO THINGS.
12:40:05PM ONE, PEOPLE NEED TO BE HEARD.
12:40:07PM THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE -- AND THEY WANT TO HAVE AN
12:40:10PM OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
12:40:11PM THIS IS A MICROCOSM OF THE LARGER CITY, WHAT WE SEE COMES UP
12:40:15PM FOR TAMPA.
12:40:16PM AND ALSO, IT PROVIDES THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WE
12:40:19PM CAN BRING IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE TALK TO THE
12:40:22PM ADMINISTRATION OR TALK AMONGST OURSELVES AT COUNCIL,
12:40:26PM SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE TO TRY TO FIND THOSE SOLUTIONS.
12:40:30PM I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW -- IT'S KIND OF A BUILT-IN
12:40:38PM ADVERSARIAL THING WHEN YOU HAVE THE FOLKS, DEPARTMENT HEADS
12:40:41PM THERE AND PEOPLE ARE YELLING BACK AND FORTH.
12:40:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I UNDERSTAND.
12:40:44PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:40:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ALL REMEMBER MY BUSINESS IS
12:40:50PM COMMUNICATION.
12:40:51PM BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID A LOT WAS

12:40:54PM PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, PUBLIC INPUT.
12:40:56PM I FACILITATED THOSE MEETINGS LIKE THE OTHER NIGHT, AND I
12:40:59PM ADVISED CLIENTS ON WHAT KIND OF EVENTS TO HAVE.
12:41:02PM WHETHER THE MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT WAS A GOOD IDEA OR NOT,
12:41:05PM I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN IT AT ALL.
12:41:08PM THESE SITUATIONS, HAVING A BIG EVENT THAT COVERS A LOT OF
12:41:10PM NEIGHBORHOODS IS ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG IDEA.
12:41:12PM ONE OF THE REASONS IS FOR THE CONSTITUENT.
12:41:16PM CONSTITUENTS DO WANT TO BE HEARD BUT A BIG MEETING LIKE THAT
12:41:19PM ONLY A FEW PEOPLE CAN SPEAK.
12:41:21PM WHAT THEY TYPICALLY DO IS HAVE YOU TEXT IN OR FILL OUT A
12:41:24PM FORM OR SOMETHING.
12:41:25PM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ISSUE.
12:41:29PM I'LL TELL YOU, PORT TAMPA HAD 8 FEET OF WATER.
12:41:36PM PEOPLE'S HOUSES COMPLETELY WIPED OUT.
12:41:38PM LIKE THREE OR FOUR HUNDRED METERS OF MANGROVES AND EIGHT
12:41:42PM FEET OF WATER CAME OVER AND DEMOLISHED PEOPLES' HOUSES.
12:41:48PM THAT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN AN AREA THAT HAS
12:41:51PM NO MANGROVES AND NO BEACH.
12:41:53PM JUST A SEAWALL, FOR EXAMPLE.
12:41:55PM WHY DID THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN DIFFERENT WAYS?
12:41:58PM BAY SIDE WEST, DEMOLISHED.
12:42:00PM ALL THE WAY ACROSS GEORGETOWN APARTMENTS.
12:42:03PM THAT IS LIKE THREE OR FOUR HUNDRED METERS OF LAND, ALL THE
12:42:07PM WAY ACROSS THAT AND SEVERAL FEET OF WATER HIT.

12:42:10PM CULBREATH BAYOU.
12:42:11PM TRASH IS BEING PICKED UP.
12:42:15PM THANK YOU LARRY AND CHIEF OF STAFF.
12:42:16PM COACHMAN ROAD BEHIND STOVALL HOUSE, LAKE, RETENTION POND,
12:42:21PM PROBABLY PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSES, BUT
12:42:25PM LOW POINT WHERE THE WATER SINKS IN.
12:42:27PM THEY CALLED US AND SAID THE WATER IS FLOODING US.
12:42:30PM SO THERE WAS A STORMWATER PUMP ISSUE WHICH WE CAN TALK ABOUT
12:42:34PM ANOTHER TIME.
12:42:35PM AS I WAS THINKING, ERIC WEISS, ALSO A WASTEWATER PUMP ISSUE.
12:42:39PM THEY NOT ONLY HAD STORMWATER FLOODING DOWN THE STREETS AND
12:42:42PM SEVERAL FEET OF WATER THAT WIPED OUT ALL THEIR STUFF BUT
12:42:46PM THEN ALSO A RIVER OF POO.
12:42:48PM LOOKED LIKE CHOCOLATE AND CHARLIE FACTORY WITH MULTIMILLION
12:42:53PM DOLLAR HOUSES.
12:42:54PM THE UNIQUE SITUATION WITH THE PUMP STATIONS IS TOTALLY
12:42:58PM DIFFERENT THAN A FEW BLOCKS AWAY.
12:43:00PM BIG MEETING WITH LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
12:43:01PM STEPHANIE AND I ARE GOING TO HELP THEM ORGANIZE THEIR
12:43:05PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AROUND AZEELE, FORMERLY CALLED
12:43:09PM COURIER CITY, A BIG AREA.
12:43:11PM THAT AREA, UNLESS THE HYDROLOGISTS COME THROUGH AND SAY IT'S
12:43:17PM ALL PART OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND TRACKING, IT IS A
12:43:20PM SUBCOMPONENT OF WHAT PARKLAND ESTATES IS DEALING WITH.
12:43:23PM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE SEPARATE THEM.

12:43:24PM THE REASON WHY ALL THESE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS DIDN'T SHOW UP
12:43:27PM TODAY IS NOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO AND DON'T HAVE
12:43:31PM ISSUES, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND I, SOME OF YOU, STAFF HAVE
12:43:35PM ALL BEEN PERSONALLY MEETING WITH THEM, TALKING TO THEM ABOUT
12:43:38PM THEIR PARTICULAR ISSUES.
12:43:39PM I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
12:43:41PM THEY WANT TO BE HEARD BUT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT
12:43:43PM AND TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS.
12:43:45PM THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE PROBLEMS IN THE PAST AND WHY.
12:43:48PM COACHMAN, IT WAS NOT JUST THE POWER WENT OUT BUT THEN THE
12:43:53PM GENERATORS TURNED ON YOU.
12:43:54PM IT'S NOT JUST A POWER ISSUE.
12:43:56PM WHAT HAPPENED THE PIPE THAT IT DUMPS INTO IN THE BAY WAS
12:44:00PM OVERWHELMED WITH WATER AND THE PUMP SHUT DOWN BECAUSE IT
12:44:03PM COULDN'T PUMP THE WATER OUT ANYMORE.
12:44:05PM IT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ISSUE.
12:44:08PM ONE THING, ALSO, PEOPLE AS YOU HEARD ARE ASKING FOR
12:44:11PM SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.
12:44:13PM PARKLAND ESTATES HAS A BIG PARK.
12:44:15PM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS SAID WHY DON'T YOU DIG A RETENTION
12:44:18PM POND THERE.
12:44:18PM SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE IT IS HISTORIC PLACE.
12:44:21PM MAYBE A TEMPORARY SOLUTION AND LONGER TERM SOLUTION.
12:44:24PM AREA AROUND AZEELE, DIG DITCHES.
12:44:26PM THERE IS ONE OVER AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE TO THE NORTH

12:44:33PM UNDERNEATH THE PARKING LOT THERE.
12:44:34PM APPARENTLY IT OVERWHELMED ALL THAT.
12:44:38PM NOVEMBER 7, THERE IS AN ITEM SIMILAR TO THIS RELATED TO
12:44:43PM PARKLAND ESTATES.
12:44:44PM I WOULD RECOMMEND, CHAIR, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IN
12:44:48PM REGARDING PARKLAND, THAT YOU ADD IT TO NOVEMBER 7 BECAUSE WE
12:44:51PM ALREADY TOLD -- THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN 50 MORE PEOPLE HERE
12:44:55PM TALKING ABOUT PARKLAND.
12:44:56PM WE POINTED THEM TO NOVEMBER 7 WITH THE CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO
12:44:59PM TALK ABOUT IT THEN.
12:45:00PM ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT PARKLAND, I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT
12:45:02PM IT THEN.
12:45:02PM I ENCOURAGE, SEVERAL OF YOU TALKING TO THE AZEELE
12:45:09PM NEIGHBORHOOD, PLEASE, GO TO MY DISTRICT AND TALK TO THEM.
12:45:12PM ULTIMATELY WE NEED FOUR VOTES.
12:45:13PM IF YOU WANT ME TO COME TO YOUR DISTRICT, HAPPY TO COME TO
12:45:17PM YOUR DISTRICT TO SUPPORT YOU AS WELL.
12:45:19PM WE NEED TO MEET SEPARATELY WITH THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
12:45:22PM UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE, I WAS TELLING THEM JUST
12:45:24PM NOW WE CAN'T ALL MEET AT THE SAME TIME WITH THEM AND THE
12:45:27PM STAFF AND THEY CAN CHOOSE WHO THEY WANT TO MEET WITH.
12:45:29PM THEY LIKE THE WAY CHARLIE LOOKS BETTER THAN ME OR SMARTER
12:45:32PM THAN ME --
12:45:34PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:45:34PM OR BECAUSE CHARLIE IS WEARING -- ANYWAY, I'M JOKING.

12:45:43PM HOWEVER, WE CAN GO IN AND MICROTARGET THESE NEIGHBORHOODS
12:45:47PM AND SOLVE THEIR ISSUES.
12:45:49PM THEN SEPARATELY, COME BACK AND I CAN MAKE A MOTION ON THIS,
12:45:53PM WE NEED TO RELOOK AT THE STORMWATER PLAN CITYWIDE AND THAT
12:45:57PM SHOULD INCLUDE PUBLIC MEETINGS ALL AROUND THE CITY AND
12:45:59PM DIFFERENT PARTS TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF IT.
12:46:02PM IN THE SHORT TERM, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO TRIAGE.
12:46:06PM NEIGHBORHOODS SEEM TO APPRECIATE WE'RE COMING INTO THEIR
12:46:08PM NEIGHBORHOOD, LOOKING AT THEIR PARTICULAR UNIQUE SITUATION
12:46:10PM AND TRYING TO SOLVE THAT.
12:46:11PM THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE NEIGHBORING
12:46:14PM PROBLEMS.
12:46:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HENDERSON AND VIERA.
12:46:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST FOR MY CURIOSITY, CHAIR, IS THIS ALSO
12:46:19PM NEW BUSINESS OR JUST COMMENTING?
12:46:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST MADE A COMMENT.
12:46:23PM I'M GOING TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE AFTER I LEAVE HERE.
12:46:26PM IT WAS A GENERAL THING, THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT WAS
12:46:30PM LISTENING, JUST -- BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER.
12:46:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: UNDERSTOOD.
12:46:35PM WELL, THIS WAS THE MOST INTERESTING MEETING THAT I'VE
12:46:38PM ATTENDED BESIDES THE 3:00 IN THE MORNING ONE.
12:46:42PM NEVERTHELESS, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT STAFF GETTING UP
12:46:46PM AND LEAVING.
12:46:47PM I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL KNOWS THIS AND I JUST WANT THE

12:46:50PM PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT OUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES ARE IN FRONT OF
12:46:54PM THEIR TVs WHEN THEY ARE NOT PRESENT IN FRONT OF US AND SO
12:46:58PM IS THE STAFF.
12:46:59PM THEY ARE LISTENING TO THESE MEETINGS AND BEING ABLE TO
12:47:01PM MULTITASK IS AN AMAZING THING THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO
12:47:06PM ACCOMPLISH.
12:47:07PM IT'S NOT THAT THEY WERE DISRESPECTING THE PUBLIC AND GETTING
12:47:11PM UP AND LEAVING AND NOT CARING ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY
12:47:15PM IMMEDIATELY.
12:47:15PM YOU CAN NOTICE IT AT ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS, JUST LIKE BARBARA
12:47:19PM TRIPP CHIMED IN ONLINE TODAY.
12:47:21PM ABBYE COMES IN ALL THE TIME, EVEN IF IT IS LEGAL, WHOEVER
12:47:25PM WORKS FOR US, THEY ARE LISTENING.
12:47:27PM I WENT TO THE RESTROOM AND PASSED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA'S
12:47:32PM OFFICE AND HIS AIDE HAS ON THE TV.
12:47:35PM DARLENE HAS ON HER TV.
12:47:37PM THEY ARE ALL LISTENING.
12:47:38PM I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THE STAFF IS IGNORING THE
12:47:41PM PUBLIC.
12:47:41PM SO THE EFFICIENCY OF BEING ABLE TO GET UP AND GO TO YOUR
12:47:45PM OFFICE AND STILL LISTEN TO WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY IS A
12:47:51PM FAIR SHOT.
12:47:51PM I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IT ANY OTHER WAY.
12:47:54PM THE OTHER THING THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING TO ME, PARKLAND
12:47:57PM ESTATES I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT AND EVEN SOME OF THE

12:48:01PM LEARNING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE SURROUNDING
12:48:06PM AREAS OF THE COMMUNITIES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:48:08PM SOUTH TAMPA DOES FIGHT DIFFERENTLY.
12:48:11PM THEY ALWAYS HAVE.
12:48:12PM I THINK THEY PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL JUST BY NATURE OF IT BEING
12:48:16PM ACROSS KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
12:48:17PM THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.
12:48:18PM THEY DO THAT EVEN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO GET WHAT THEY
12:48:22PM WANT.
12:48:22PM AND IT IS AN EFFECTIVE METHOD.
12:48:25PM ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY INDICATED THAT SHE WANTS
12:48:28PM THE STORM TRUCKS THERE LIKE STARTING RIGHT NOW.
12:48:33PM WE SHOULD BE PULLING OUT AND TAKING SOME TRUCKS OVER THERE
12:48:35PM TO WORK FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
12:48:37PM I KNOW THAT IT COMES FROM AN EMOTIONAL PLACE.
12:48:42PM I KNOW THAT -- I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY SHE FEELS THAT WAY.
12:48:48PM BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT NECESSARILY WORKS THAT WAY OR EVEN IF
12:48:51PM THAT IS POSSIBLE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN AND HOW DO WE PICK ONE
12:48:55PM AREA OVER ANOTHER, WHO SHOULD BE A PRIORITY, I DON'T KNOW.
12:48:59PM I DO KNOW PARKLAND ESTATES IS AN ISSUE.
12:49:02PM I LITERALLY VISITED THE COMMUNITY.
12:49:04PM IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT FIXING THE PROBLEM BUT ALSO THE
12:49:07PM PRESERVATION BECAUSE IT IS A VERY, VERY BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY
12:49:10PM WITH SOME EXTREMELY NICE HOMES.
12:49:13PM I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM STORMWATER BECAUSE I THINK

12:49:18PM THAT THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE
12:49:21PM EXPEDITE IT, BUT IF IT BRINGS ABOUT A SOLUTION FASTER, I
12:49:27PM WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.
12:49:29PM I'M JUST SAYING THAT TO WHOEVER THE STAFF LISTENING, PLEASE
12:49:32PM REACH OUT TO ME SO I CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT STORMWATER BECAUSE
12:49:36PM I KNOW THERE IS A PLAN FOR PARKLAND ESTATES.
12:49:39PM IT HASN'T BEEN IGNORED.
12:49:42PM AND THE GOVERNMENT HASN'T DONE NOTHING.
12:49:45PM THAT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT TRUE BECAUSE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE BEEN
12:49:49PM COMPLAINING ABOUT IT OR EVEN FOR ME, I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL
12:49:53PM FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND I KNOW ABOUT IT, THERE'S NO WAY
12:49:56PM THAT THE STAFF IS NOT DOING ANYTHING.
12:49:58PM I JUST WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS SO WE CAN
12:50:01PM COMMUNICATE THAT EFFECTIVELY TO OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE I
12:50:05PM CARE ABOUT EVERY ASPECT, NOT JUST DISTRICT 5, BUT EVERY
12:50:10PM ASPECT.
12:50:10PM WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THE ENTIRE
12:50:13PM CITY.
12:50:14PM THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT.
12:50:16PM AND THEN THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T
12:50:19PM SEE, LIKE HOW ROBIN LOCKETT CAME TODAY AND SPOKE, THERE ARE
12:50:26PM 65,000 RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT 5.
12:50:28PM AND SOMETIMES A VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO
12:50:32PM COME FROM DISTRICT 5 CONSISTENTLY -- CONSISTENTLY -- THEY DO
12:50:36PM NOT SPEAK FOR ALL OF THE 65,000 RESIDENTS IN EAST TAMPA.

12:50:40PM OR IN DISTRICT 5.
12:50:43PM SO THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE MAY NOT BE IN
12:50:48PM FRONT OF US, A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, THAT'S NOT HOW THEY
12:50:52PM FIGHT.
12:50:53PM THEY MAKE PERSONAL PHONE CALLS.
12:50:55PM THEY WRITE LETTERS.
12:50:59PM AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:51:00PM THEY SHARE INFORMATION.
12:51:01PM ONE OF THEM IS HERE.
12:51:01PM CARROLL ANN BENNETT WILL SEND YOU AN ARTICLE IN A HEARTBEAT
12:51:11PM OR SOMETHING THAT GIVES A HISTORICAL CONTEXT OR JUST
12:51:11PM INFORMATION THAT IS VERY VALUABLE TO THE LEARNING PROCESS
12:51:11PM FOR ALL OF US.
12:51:11PM SO I APPRECIATE THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:51:13PM EVERYONE'S FIGHT IS JUST DIFFERENT.
12:51:15PM I WANT TO ALSO CLOSE IT WITH THIS, TOO, IN TERMS OF WHEN I
12:51:22PM TALKED ABOUT THE MILLAGE, I KNOW THAT IT COULD BE ANY KIND
12:51:26PM OF MONEY, WHETHER CIT OR EVEN MILLAGE.
12:51:31PM ME SAYING THAT WAS NOT A REPRIMAND TO THE CITY, BUT I DO
12:51:35PM KNOW THAT OUR $1.8 BILLION BUDGET IS ACTUALLY UTILIZED AND
12:51:41PM IT IS STRETCHED TO CAPACITY.
12:51:43PM WE JUST, WHEN WE APPROVED THE $1.5 MILLION FOR ROUTE ONE
12:51:54PM BUS, THAT MONEY CAME UNDER THE PART OF OUR BUDGET.
12:51:58PM THINGS COST MONEY IN THE CITY.
12:52:00PM SO I KNOW THAT STORMWATER, THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S JUST A FEW

12:52:06PM MILLION DOLLARS.
12:52:06PM WHATEVER THE COST IS GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF RESOLVING THIS
12:52:10PM ISSUE, I KNOW THAT IT IS SIGNIFICANT AND THE MONEY WILL HAVE
12:52:14PM TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
12:52:16PM THAT IS A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW.
12:52:18PM I DON'T THINK THAT THAT MONEY ACTUALLY -- ALL OF THAT MONEY
12:52:22PM WOULD EXIST IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET.
12:52:24PM IT WILL HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE OR WE'LL HAVE TO DO
12:52:26PM THINGS DIFFERENTLY IN THE CITY.
12:52:28PM BUT I DO FEEL AS THOUGH -- GOSH, WHAT IS THIS THOUGHT ABOUT?
12:52:37PM I WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING THINGS,
12:52:41PM ADDING DENSITY TO PLACES WHERE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES WAS AND
12:52:45PM DIDN'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR STORMWATER, I WOULD LIKE FOR
12:52:50PM STAFF TO GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ON THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE
12:52:53PM VOTE ON THESE THINGS, WE RELY ON STAFF.
12:52:56PM SO IF THAT PART IS BEING LEFT OUT AND WE'RE MAKING A
12:52:59PM DECISION ABOUT A PRETTY BUILDING BUT NOT LOOKING AT THE
12:53:03PM UNDERBELLY OF THE THINGS THAT CAN IMPACT THOSE DECISIONS,
12:53:07PM THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
12:53:08PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT AS WELL.
12:53:10PM THAT'S IT FOR ME.
12:53:11PM THANK YOU.
12:53:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND MIRANDA.
12:53:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE LONG BECAUSE WE WANT TO
12:53:16PM MOVE FORWARD.

12:53:17PM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT I DO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO HAVE
12:53:23PM COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
12:53:23PM WE HAD ONE ON TUESDAY.
12:53:25PM IT ACTUALLY WENT VERY WELL.
12:53:27PM IT WAS EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL.
12:53:29PM I TELL PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE ANGRY THERE, LISA WAS THERE, I
12:53:34PM WOULD BE JUST AS ANGRY AS THE PEOPLE OUT THERE TODAY.
12:53:39PM I SAW NOTHING INAPPROPRIATE.
12:53:42PM GOT TO BE COMMUNITY BASED.
12:53:43PM GOT TO BE BASED ON THE COMMUNITY ONE TONIGHT FOR UNIVERSITY
12:53:50PM AREA PROBABLY MOVED TO NEXT TUESDAY.
12:53:53PM SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
12:53:55PM I'M HITTING REALLY HARD, AS HARD AS I CAN FOR THESE
12:54:00PM COMMUNITIES IN NORTH TAMPA.
12:54:01PM YOU KNOW WHY?
12:54:02PM BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING-CLASS COMMUNITIES.
12:54:04PM THEY ARE BLUE COLLAR COMMUNITIES.
12:54:06PM PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK COMMUNITIES.
12:54:09PM YOU GET TO UNIVERSITY AREA AND TIMBERFALLS, THEY ARE LOWER
12:54:12PM INCOME, MANY OF THEM WORKING FAMILY COMMUNITIES.
12:54:15PM COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THESE NORTH TAMPA
12:54:19PM COMMUNITIES, IN ALL OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA, BUT ON PEOPLE WHO
12:54:23PM DON'T NECESSARILY SHOW UP HERE, SOUTH TAMPA, STORIES I HEARD
12:54:28PM OUT THERE THAT BREAK MY HEART.
12:54:30PM HELD A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING TWO NIGHTS AGO WITH KATHY

12:54:32PM CASTOR'S OFFICE, DAVID ADAMS WAS THERE.
12:54:35PM KNOWN HIM A LONG TIME.
12:54:37PM ALL OF THESE STORIES BREAK MY HEART.
12:54:40PM I WANT TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON
12:54:43PM THAT, THOSE WORKING CLASS BLUE COLLAR COMMUNITIES.
12:54:47PM SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY
12:54:49PM EMOTIONAL MEETINGS.
12:54:50PM PROBABLY HELD ABOUT 75 OR 80 TOWN HALLS SINCE I'VE BEEN
12:54:54PM ELECTED THAT YOU HAVE STAFF TALK AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,
12:54:58PM PLEASE, PLEASE, ALL OF YOU ALL, HAVE STAFF BRIEF YOU ON WHAT
12:55:01PM THEY ARE GOING TO SAY.
12:55:02PM SOMETIMES YOU RUN -- THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
12:55:07PM WHEN YOU DO QUESTION AND ANSWER, YOU BREAK UP AFTER ABOUT 45
12:55:11PM MINUTES AND THEN YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL.
12:55:15PM WE WERE OUT THERE HOUR AND A HALF AFTERWARDS.
12:55:17PM LONG LINE OF 50 PEOPLE TO TALK TO ME.
12:55:20PM SPOKE WITH EVERY ONE OF THEM.
12:55:23PM MEETING THEM AT THEIR HOMES TOMORROW AND THIS WEEK.
12:55:25PM THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.
12:55:26PM YOU'LL STILL HAVE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE ANGRY.
12:55:29PM GUESS WHAT, SO LONG AS THEY DON'T BREAK THE LAW OR ANYTHING,
12:55:33PM THEY ARE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY.
12:55:34PM THEY ARE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY.
12:55:35PM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
12:55:37PM ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND HAVE A STREET, WHATEVER

12:55:40PM STREET, GO LOOK.
12:55:41PM I'LL MEET YOU AT THE STOP SIGN.
12:55:43PM GATHER 20 PEOPLE, LET'S TALK.
12:55:45PM PEOPLE WANT TO SEE US, HEAR FROM US, LIKE IS HAPPENING.
12:55:48PM AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS LIKE THIS, I'M A BIG FAN, VERY
12:55:54PM EMOTIONAL ISSUE.
12:55:56PM GOT TO BE DONE IN A VERY CAREFUL WAY, IN A VERY, VERY
12:55:59PM CAREFUL WAY.
12:56:00PM I WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE RESULT OF THE MEETING BECAUSE I
12:56:03PM KNEW IT WOULD BE EMOTIONAL.
12:56:04PM AGAIN, IF THAT WAS MY HOUSE AND I WAS IN A NO FLOOD ZONE AND
12:56:08PM GOT FLOODED AND READ THINGS IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES.
12:56:12PM THIS CUBAN CAFE CON LECHE WOULD BE VERY, VERY HOT.
12:56:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
12:56:20PM FIRST OF ALL THIS AREA, THIS AREA, THE CITY, WHY DON'T WE
12:56:22PM HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ALL THE PEOPLE IN STORMWATER
12:56:25PM REGARDING DISTRICT 4, DISTRICT 5, DISTRICT 6, AND DISTRICT
12:56:29PM 7.
12:56:30PM THAT WAY ALL OF THEM ARE TAKEN IN BECAUSE ALL OF THEM ARE
12:56:33PM THE SAME AND ALL OF THEM ARE DIFFERENT AND DIFFERENT VALUES
12:56:35PM OF NOT ONLY THE HOUSEHOLD, OF FLOODING.
12:56:38PM I THINK ALL OF US SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHING ALONG WITH THAT,
12:56:42PM THE ADMINISTRATION GIVES US THE MONEY SPENT FOR THE TOTAL
12:56:45PM YEAR OF 2023 -- 2024 REALLY NOW, OF THE MONEY SPENT IN
12:56:51PM DISTRICT 4, 5, 6, 7, SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'VE

12:56:55PM DONE AND WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD LET THEM
12:56:58PM KNOW.
12:56:58PM THE MONIES SPENT IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
12:57:00PM THAT'S NOT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DO.
12:57:03PM KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
12:57:04PM DONE IT BEFORE.
12:57:06PM TIME-CONSUMING BUT SURE THEY HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING
12:57:09PM IT DONE VERY QUICKLY.
12:57:10PM THAT MOTION WAS MADE ABOUT THIS AREA AND THIS AREA.
12:57:13PM WHY DON'T WE HAVE THEM COME AND TALK ABOUT THE CITY AS A
12:57:17PM WHOLE WHICH INCLUDES -- THE AREAS.
12:57:19PM THAT WAY EVERYBODY IN THE DISTRICT KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.
12:57:22PM INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR THIS
12:57:26PM NEIGHBORHOOD, MAKE IT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN DISTRICT
12:57:29PM 4 AND WE TALK SPECIFICALLY ONE AT A TIME.
12:57:33PM WE UNDERSTAND AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AT AND WHERE
12:57:35PM WE ARE GOING.
12:57:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:57:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY YOU ARE ASKING FOR THEM TO TAKE
12:57:42PM THEIR QUARTERLY WRITTEN REPORT AND JUST BRING IT FORWARD AND
12:57:46PM TALK ABOUT IT.
12:57:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXACTLY.
12:57:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAKE IT PUBLIC.
12:57:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FROM THE YEAR END BUDGET THAT ENDED
12:57:55PM SEPTEMBER 30, WHATEVER IT WAS, THAT THE MONEY SPENT FOR THAT

12:57:59PM TOTAL YEAR, 2024 AND THIS IS WHERE IT WENT.
12:58:01PM EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
12:58:03PM WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING -- I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE CIT TAX.
12:58:09PM IF IT'S SO GREAT, LET ME JUST TELL YOU ONE THING.
12:58:13PM THEY ARE GETTING MORE -- THEY ARE GETTING MORE THAN PUBLIC
12:58:20PM WORKS ARE GETTING.
12:58:21PM MORE MONEY THAN POLICE AND FIRE FOR THE TOTAL 15 YEARS ON
12:58:28PM ONE SECTION ALONE.
12:58:30PM THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING ELSE.
12:58:32PM IF YOU THINK I'M WRONG, PROVE ME.
12:58:34PM I READ THE RECORD.
12:58:36PM READ EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
12:58:37PM THEY ARE SPENDING MORE MONEY GIVING IT AWAY TO TWO
12:58:40PM CORPORATIONS, ONE WORTH OVER 6 BILLION, OVER 2 BILLION THAT
12:58:44PM WE'RE GETTING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
12:58:46PM I WILL CHALLENGE ANYBODY IN THE GOVERNMENT OR IN THOSE TWO
12:58:50PM ENTITIES TO HAVE A DEBATE WITH US OR ME, WHATEVER THEY WANT.
12:58:54PM BECAUSE I CAN PROVE EVERYTHING I'M SAYING.
12:58:58PM ALONE THEY MADE OVER 65 MILLION ON SOMETHING THEY DON'T
12:59:00PM SPEND ONE PENNY ON.
12:59:02PM EVENT IN ONE LOCATION.
12:59:04PM WHY AM I GIVING $65 MILLION TO THEM?
12:59:06PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
12:59:09PM HOWEVER, THERE WAS IN THE PAST, A PERSON THAT PASSED IN
12:59:12PM 1996, SEPTEMBER 6 OF '96, THERE WAS A PRO FORMA, HOW THE

12:59:21PM MONEY WOULD GO TO THEM.
12:59:22PM I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM.
12:59:22PM I'VE SEEN ONLY LUMP NUMBERS.
12:59:25PM WHY AND HOW WE DID IT?
12:59:27PM TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, WE TOOK A VOTE.
12:59:31PM I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE VOTE WAS.
12:59:34PM I KNOW IT WAS FOR OR AGAINST.
12:59:36PM THAT'S IT.
12:59:36PM FOR OR AGAINST WHAT?
12:59:38PM NO ONE EXPLAINED IT, DID THEY, AND WE SWALLOWED IT.
12:59:42PM THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
12:59:44PM I DON'T DO THAT.
12:59:45PM I'M TELLING YOU, IF THAT VOTE PASSES THE WAY IT IS, WE HAVE
12:59:49PM NO CONTROL, PERIOD.
12:59:51PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:59:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:59:53PM BEFORE I GO INTO NEW BUSINESS, I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY
12:59:57PM CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF NORENE COPELAND MILLER WHO
1:00:01PM PASSED AWAY.
1:00:03PM RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION FROM MS. AILEEN HENDERSON.
1:00:06PM AS YOU KNOW, MS. COPELAND MILLER WAS A SUPERHERO IN THE
1:00:12PM COMMUNITY WITH THE CEMETERIES, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, JUST
1:00:18PM EVERYTHING.
1:00:19PM JUST A TREMENDOUS LOSS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SOMEONE WHO
1:00:22PM WAS A REGULAR HERE AT CITY COUNCIL AND EXTREMELY INVOLVED

1:00:25PM ALL THE TIME.
1:00:26PM MY CONDOLENCES TO HER FAMILY.
1:00:27PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE NEW BUSINESS?
1:00:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
1:00:31PM I NEED FIVE MINUTES ON NOVEMBER 7 FOR CHUCK GARDNER FOR
1:00:34PM TAMPA BAY WATER TO GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW.
1:00:36PM SORRY IT IS LATE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BEFORE THE YEAR
1:00:39PM ENDS.
1:00:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:00:41PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:00:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:00:43PM AYE.
1:00:43PM ANY OPPOSED.
1:00:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND ONE, MAKE A COMMENDATION BUT I
1:00:47PM DON'T KNOW WHERE, BUT I'VE GOT TO SPEAK TO THE COACH.
1:00:50PM JOSE FERNANDEZ HAS BEEN THE HEAD COACH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
1:00:52PM SOUTH FLORIDA FOR 25 YEARS WOMEN'S BASKETBALL.
1:00:55PM IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANY COACH IN TODAY'S SOCIETY TO HAVE
1:00:59PM A JOB -- DOING ONE HELL OF A JOB.
1:01:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH THE MOTION.
1:01:07PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:01:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:01:09PM AYE.
1:01:10PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:01:11PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

1:01:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
1:01:14PM I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS.
1:01:16PM NUMBER ONE, AND I'VE TALKED, SAID I WAS GOING TO DO THIS.
1:01:20PM I WANT TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK AND HAVE A REPORT.
1:01:23PM LET'S SEE HOW WE WANT TO TAKE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THIS
1:01:28PM STORM, GUESS WHAT, EVERYTHING HAPPENED ON FRIDAY.
1:01:30PM TODAY IS THURSDAY.
1:01:31PM IDEAS COME UP, ET CETERA.
1:01:32PM LONG STORY SHORT AS I SAID, I WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF AN
1:01:36PM INDEPENDENT LOOK, NOT DONE BY THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN CHARGE
1:01:40PM OF IT.
1:01:41PM I BELIEVE IN TRUST BUT VERIFY.
1:01:44PM AT WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOLLOWING THE
1:01:46PM STORMS AS IT RELATES TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, MY PERSONAL WISH
1:01:49PM IS THAT IT IS BOTH CITY AND COUNTY BECAUSE I KNOW EAST
1:01:53PM COUNTY HAS A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
1:01:55PM SOMETIMES WE SHARE INFRASTRUCTURE.
1:01:58PM A LOT OF PRIVITY THERE, OBVIOUSLY.
1:02:02PM I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
1:02:04PM THIS IS ALL FOR OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
1:02:05PM WE CAME HERE AND SAW PEOPLE SPEAKING FROM THE HEART, FROM
1:02:08PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S DISTRICT, FROM SOUTH TAMPA.
1:02:12PM AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS WORKING.
1:02:15PM SO THIS, AS I ENVISION IT, WOULD LOOK AT A NUMBER OF THINGS.
1:02:20PM NUMBER ONE, WHAT SUCCESSES WE HAVE.

1:02:21PM HOW CAN WE BUILD ON THOSE.
1:02:23PM WHAT FAILURES DID WE HAVE WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.
1:02:25PM HOW CAN WE DO BETTER ON THAT.
1:02:28PM AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE STORM, PARTICULARLY WITH NON-FLOOD
1:02:34PM ZONES.
1:02:35PM LOT OF QUESTIONS RAISED.
1:02:36PM ISSUES, STORMWATER PONDS, TIMELINE OF WHEN THE PONDS WERE
1:02:39PM PUMPED, A DETAILED STATUS UPDATE ON GENERATORS.
1:02:42PM ACTIONS LEADING UP TO, DURING AND AFTER THE STORM,
1:02:45PM ET CETERA.
1:02:46PM WHAT I WANT TO DO IS HAVE A PATHWAY FORWARD FOR THAT.
1:02:51PM AGAIN, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT IT.
1:02:55PM I WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS IN A VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL WAY, BUT
1:03:00PM WE NEED TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT INQUIRY INTO WHAT HAPPENED
1:03:04PM AFTER THIS STORM.
1:03:06PM BECAUSE, GUYS, THERE ARE A LOT OF FAMILIES WHO LOST
1:03:09PM EVERYTHING AND WHO DO NOT HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE AND WHO WERE
1:03:14PM IN NO FLOOD ZONES.
1:03:15PM AND WE HEAR ABOUT THINGS WITH BACKUP GENERATORS, ET CETERA.
1:03:18PM A GOOD AND HONEST GOVERNMENT IS NOT AFRAID OF HAVING OUTSIDE
1:03:22PM INDEPENDENT PROFESSIONAL SOURCES TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED.
1:03:26PM THAT'S ALL THAT I WANT.
1:03:28PM AND I KNOW WE ALL SHARE THAT.
1:03:30PM I HOPE THIS GETS SUPPORT.
1:03:32PM I WOULD MOTION FOR THIS TO COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 7.

1:03:37PM I KNOW THAT IS SOON.
1:03:39PM I PROMISE THAT I WILL WORK AS HARD AS I CAN TO GET AS MUCH
1:03:43PM INFORMATION AS I CAN LIKE I HAVE BEEN ON THIS, BUT THAT'S MY
1:03:47PM MOTION.
1:03:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
1:03:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE FIVE ON NOVEMBER 7.
1:04:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION?
1:04:06PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
1:04:08PM MR. SHELBY.
1:04:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. VIERA, IF YOU CAN, FOR THE PURPOSES OF
1:04:13PM WHAT YOU WANT TO APPEAR ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU COULD RESTATE
1:04:16PM YOUR MOTION.
1:04:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY MOTION IS FOR -- TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON AN
1:04:21PM INDEPENDENT INQUIRY INVESTIGATION INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF
1:04:26PM THE CITY OF TAMPA DURING AND AFTER THESE TWO STORMS WITH A
1:04:32PM DISCUSSION ON A COMMISSION ON OUR SUCCESSES, OUR FAILURES,
1:04:40PM AND HOW WE CAN DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE, BUT ESPECIALLY WHAT
1:04:44PM WENT WRONG ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HEARD TODAY WITH
1:04:48PM GENERATORS, INFRASTRUCTURE, ET CETERA.
1:04:50PM I CAN SEND YOU A MEMO TO --
1:04:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
1:04:56PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK HAD HER HAND UP FIRST AND THEN COUNCIL
1:04:59PM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:04:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
1:05:00PM IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT INQUIRY, I THINK THE BEST

1:05:03PM IDEA IS TO SIMPLY -- I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE OPPOSES THAT.
1:05:07PM I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS WORK WITH MR. SHELBY TO
1:05:10PM FIGURE OUT HOW WE RUN -- BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO AN
1:05:13PM INDEPENDENT INQUIRY.
1:05:14PM I DON'T THINK BRINGING IT BACK NOVEMBER 7 AND HAVING US TALK
1:05:17PM ABOUT IT MORE IS A GOOD IDEA.
1:05:19PM I THINK YOU SIMPLY MEET WITH MR. SHELBY, MAYBE WITH
1:05:22PM MS. KOPESKY, FIGURE OUT THE INTRICACIES OF IT AND WE WILL
1:05:27PM WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT YOU.
1:05:29PM I THINK IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE POSTMORTEM
1:05:34PM WORKSHOP I RECOMMENDED WHICH WOULD BE A STAFF LEVEL AND FOR
1:05:36PM US TO REALLY DISCUSS.
1:05:38PM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE DO WANT SOME
1:05:42PM INDEPENDENT INQUIRY AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY AS COUNCIL TO DO
1:05:45PM THAT.
1:05:46PM WE JUST HAVEN'T IN A WHILE.
1:05:48PM SO I THINK A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND WORK WITH THE THREE OF
1:05:50PM YOU MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY AND THEN BRING IT BACK AND SAY,
1:05:54PM HEY, WE'LL DO THIS, DO IT.
1:05:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
1:05:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THIS INVOLVE ONLY THE CITY OF TAMPA,
1:06:01PM NOT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS --
1:06:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CITY ONLY.
1:06:08PM WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO WORK WITH US AND
1:06:12PM THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME SYSTEMS WE DO.

1:06:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WELL TAKEN.
1:06:17PM THAT'S FINE.
1:06:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
1:06:21PM ONE, WE HAVE TO KNOW OUR ROLE AND THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE
1:06:27PM HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
1:06:29PM WE HAVE INVESTIGATORY RESPONSIBILITIES.
1:06:33PM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM LEGAL.
1:06:34PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU BRIDGE OUR ROLE AND INVESTIGATION
1:06:37PM RESPONSIBILITIES WITH AN INDEPENDENT INQUIRY.
1:06:40PM THAT SOUNDS LEGISLATIVE ON A TALLAHASSEE LEVEL AND NOT
1:06:44PM NECESSARILY COUNCIL LEVEL.
1:06:46PM I THINK I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM LEGAL OF HOW THAT
1:06:49PM FITS WITHIN.
1:06:51PM I THINK WE ALL -- I CAN'T IMAGINE A SINGLE ONE OF THE SEVEN
1:06:55PM OF US THAT DON'T SUPPORT THE INTENT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
1:06:57PM GET TO.
1:06:58PM BUT IT IS THE MECHANICS.
1:07:02PM ALSO SOME OF THE VERBIAGE.
1:07:04PM I ALSO DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY POLITICIZE THIS EITHER.
1:07:08PM I LOVE LYNN'S IDEA OF THE SWOT CONCEPT BECAUSE I THINK
1:07:13PM THAT'S KIND OF MORE PRODUCTIVE WAY OF LOOKING AT SOMETHING.
1:07:17PM I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
1:07:21PM BEEN BEATING A DEAD HORSE.
1:07:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND VIERA.
1:07:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT BOTH SIDES ARE TRYING

1:07:28PM TO DO.
1:07:28PM I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS IN ANY WAY POLITICAL AT PULL.
1:07:32PM WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING AND SAY WHAT
1:07:36PM WENT WRONG AT WHAT TIME IN HISTORY AND HOW LONG HAS BEEN IN
1:07:40PM PLACE.
1:07:40PM NOT ABOUT THIS ADMINISTRATION OR LAST YEAR'S ADMINISTRATION
1:07:42PM OR 30 YEARS ADMINISTRATION, HOW DO WE FIX WHAT WE HAVE SO
1:07:46PM THAT WE UNDERSTAND, NOT DIRECTLY AT THIS ADMINISTRATION.
1:07:51PM THIS ADMINISTRATION INHERITED FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.
1:07:53PM IF THE HURRICANE HAPPENED AT THAT TIME, WOULD HAVE BEEN THE
1:07:56PM SAME PLACE WE'RE AT NOW.
1:07:57PM THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
1:07:58PM NOT COVERING UP FOR ADMINISTRATION.
1:08:00PM I'M SAYING FOR THE GOVERNMENT SAKE, US GOING FORWARD, I
1:08:03PM REALLY BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOT TO BE DONE ON HOW DO WE FIX
1:08:07PM WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW DO WE FIX WHAT
1:08:11PM HAPPENED, PERIOD.
1:08:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE
1:08:16PM TO PROCEED?
1:08:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUPLE OF THINGS.
1:08:18PM I WANT THIS TO BE DOWN OUTSIDE OF STAFF.
1:08:21PM LOVE STAFF.
1:08:22PM WORKED WITH THEM EIGHT YEARS.
1:08:23PM WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
1:08:24PM JUST HAS TO BE DONE.

1:08:26PM IN TERMS OF THE POLITICIZATION THAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
1:08:28PM SAID, THAT'S WHY I WOULD RATHER IT BE DONE, NOT BY US
1:08:33PM BECAUSE, AGAIN, PROBABLY FOR THE SAME REASON, THAT WOULD BE
1:08:38PM MY PREFERENCE.
1:08:39PM I DON'T WANT US DOING IT.
1:08:41PM THERE'S TOO MUCH.
1:08:42PM WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS, ET CETERA.
1:08:44PM I'D RATHER IT BE DONE BY SOME SORT OF OUTSIDE GROUP.
1:08:47PM THAT SAID, I WOULD MOTION FOR THEN IS FOR ME TO DISCUSS WITH
1:08:52PM THE APPROPRIATE INDIVIDUALS AND FOR ME TO COME BACK AND
1:08:57PM REPORT TO YOU GUYS NOVEMBER 7.
1:09:01PM THAT IS ENOUGH TIME.
1:09:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD.
1:09:02PM WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON IT ON THE 7th.
1:09:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAN BRING IT BACK DURING NEW BUSINESS.
1:09:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR?
1:09:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNDER LIKE STAFF REPORTS AT THE END?
1:09:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:09:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: TO GAUGE COUNCIL, I'LL TELL YOU ALL THIS, WHEN
1:09:17PM I SPEAK TO MY PEOPLE IN FOREST HILLS AND NORTH TAMPA, THEY
1:09:21PM WANT THIS.
1:09:22PM THEY ARE PISSED AND THEY WANT THIS.
1:09:24PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM COUNCIL THAT THERE IS
1:09:28PM UNIVERSAL SUPPORT FOR THIS, AS DISCUSSED.
1:09:32PM SO I CAN TELL THEM THAT.

1:09:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I CAFE CON LECHE THAT.
1:09:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I UNDERSTAND.
1:09:40PM IT IS TO RETURN -- TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL --
1:09:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE WILL BE REPORTING.
1:09:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: ON A PROPOSAL, YEAH.
1:09:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, YOU TALK ABOUT SCOPE AND TALK
1:09:51PM ABOUT BRINGING THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THEY'LL NO DOUBT --
1:09:56PM CITE SECTION 2.14, INVESTIGATIONS.
1:10:01PM IN THE EXERCISE OF ITS LEGISLATIVE POWERS, THE COUNCIL OR
1:10:05PM ANY SPECIAL COMMITTEE SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO CONDUCT SUCH
1:10:08PM INVESTIGATIONS THAT HOLD SUCH HEARINGS AS COUNCIL SHALL BE
1:10:12PM NECESSARY, EXPEDIENT AND PROPER, ET CETERA.
1:10:14PM WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS YOUR SCOPE IS WITHIN YOUR
1:10:17PM LEGISLATIVE POWERS.
1:10:18PM IN OTHER WORDS, CRAFTING CODE AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO YOUR
1:10:22PM RESPONSIBILITIES AS TO THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR THE
1:10:25PM BUDGET.
1:10:25PM THAT WOULD BE YOUR AUTHORITY UNDER INVESTIGATIONS UNDER THE
1:10:29PM CHARTER.
1:10:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
1:10:31PM YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS TO BE PUT LAST UNDER STAFF
1:10:35PM REPORTS AND THE NOVEMBER 7 AGENDA.
1:10:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:10:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:10:40PM AYE.

1:10:41PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
1:10:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUPLE THINGS, IF I MAY.
1:10:45PM I AM GOING TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO REPORT TO US AS SOON
1:10:48PM AS WE CAN ON THE FEASIBILITY OF APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO
1:10:52PM ASSIST PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ON A MEANS TESTED
1:10:56PM BASIS FOR UNCOMPENSATED NEEDS SUCH HOUSING, FOOD, ET CETERA.
1:11:02PM WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS SOMETHING THAT IS GREAT BUT
1:11:06PM THAT IS VERY, VERY TIME LIMITED.
1:11:08PM I WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE IN A ROBUST NATURE.
1:11:12PM I HAVE A NUMBER I'M THINKING OF, BUT I WANT THE
1:11:15PM ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK WITH A NUMBER AND A FUNDING
1:11:18PM SOURCE ON WAYS IN WHICH THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY HELP PEOPLE,
1:11:23PM HURRICANE VICTIMS.
1:11:24PM THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA, THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF
1:11:26PM TAMPA ON A MEANS TESTED BASIS.
1:11:29PM WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING HOMELESS RIGHT NOW.
1:11:31PM WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING HUNGRY RIGHT NOW.
1:11:34PM AND IT'S NOT GOING TO END IN TWO WEEKS.
1:11:36PM IT'S NOT GOING TO END IN TWO WEEKS.
1:11:38PM THIS STORM HAS BEEN DEVASTATING FOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY --
1:11:42PM FOR EVERYBODY -- BUT ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE FLOOD
1:11:45PM INSURANCE.
1:11:46PM THIS IS DEVASTATING.
1:11:47PM EMOTIONALLY TAXING, PEOPLE ARE BEING ORDERED TO GO BACK TO
1:11:51PM WORK AND THEY CAN'T GO BACK TO WORK.

1:11:53PM WE NEED TO HELP THEM AND I THINK WE HAVE TO FIND A PATHWAY
1:11:56PM FOR THAT.
1:11:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DATE FOR THAT?
1:11:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'D LIKE NOVEMBER 7 BUT WHATEVER COUNCIL --
1:12:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
1:12:02PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:12:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, NO, I'M NOT SECONDING IT.
1:12:06PM I'M OPPOSED TO IT.
1:12:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A SECOND?
1:12:09PM ANYBODY WITH A SECOND?
1:12:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT WILL DIE.
1:12:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I EXPLAIN WHY?
1:12:15PM I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I HAD A LAWSUIT
1:12:19PM FILED WITH FEMA.
1:12:20PM I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES OF DENYING.
1:12:22PM FEMA HAS THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW.
1:12:24PM IF THEY RUN OUT OF FUNDING, CONGRESS WILL EXPAND THAT
1:12:27PM FUNDING.
1:12:28PM THEY HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS.
1:12:29PM SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE, YOU HAVE IMMEDIATE
1:12:32PM NEED, SO THEY'LL REIMBURSE YOU FOR IMMEDIATE NEED FOR HOTEL
1:12:35PM UP TO $750 AND MISCELLANEOUS LOST FOOD.
1:12:39PM ALMOST -- AS LONG AS THEY DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAD A LOST IT'S
1:12:42PM LIKE 3300 RIGHT OUT THE DOOR.
1:12:44PM ANYBODY LISTENING TO THIS, IF YOU GO TO DISASTER

1:12:53PM ASSISTANCE.GOV AND FILE.
1:12:55PM SOMEBODY SAID THEY STOOD UP A CENTER AT BARKSDALE AND THE
1:12:59PM CITY OF TAMPA.
1:12:59PM IF YOU GO DOWN THERE, GRANTED LONG LINES, BUT THE
1:13:03PM APPLICATION PROCESS ONLINE IS ACTUALLY QUICK AND EASY.
1:13:06PM IT DOESN'T TAKE YOU VERY LONG.
1:13:08PM YOU CAN FILL OUT THAT FORM IN FIVE MINUTES.
1:13:10PM THEY WILL SEND OUT SOMEONE TO YOUR HOUSE AND THEY JUST
1:13:13PM DOCUMENT THE FACT THAT YOU HAD A LOSS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU
1:13:16PM HAVE PICTURES.
1:13:18PM EVEN IF YOU REMEDIATED YOUR LOSS, JUST SHOW THEM PICTURES
1:13:21PM THEY WILL DOCUMENT THAT AND WITHIN SEVEN DAYS YOU WILL GET A
1:13:24PM CHECK DEPOSITED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT FROM FEMA.
1:13:29PM ON TOP OF THAT, FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE, THEY
1:13:32PM HAVE LOW INTEREST LOANS THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR FOR UP TO
1:13:37PM 30-YEAR LOW INTEREST LOANS.
1:13:40PM SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WERE IMPACTED, THEY CAN APPLY FOR ZERO
1:13:43PM INTEREST LOANS FOR UP TO 12 MONTHS.
1:13:46PM AFTER THAT IT CAN ROLL OVER INTO A LOW INTEREST LOAN TO GET
1:13:49PM IMMEDIATE HELP IN BEING ABLE TO REBUILD THEIR BUSINESS OR
1:13:52PM REPAIR DAMAGES.
1:13:53PM SO THERE IS A LOT OF FEDERAL MONEY FLOWING INTO FLORIDA AND
1:13:58PM THESE OTHER AREAS IMPACTED AND SPECIFICALLY INTO TAMPA.
1:14:02PM REALIZING THAT WE ARE REALLY JUST IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS PAST
1:14:07PM A REALLY HUGE NATURAL DISASTER.

1:14:10PM SO THEY ARE STILL STANDING THESE THINGS UP.
1:14:13PM FEMA IS COMING IN AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES.
1:14:16PM YOU ALL GO OUT AND LOOK FOR RESOURCES.
1:14:20PM NEED HELP, CONTACT MY OFFICE AND WE'LL POINT YOU IN THE
1:14:23PM RIGHT DIRECTION.
1:14:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD YOUR MIKE
1:14:25PM ON.
1:14:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE.
1:14:26PM THAT IS THE REASON I DON'T SUPPORT IT.
1:14:29PM FEMA IN THEORY HAS THESE RESOURCES.
1:14:31PM ALSO, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR STOOD WITH THE MAYOR TWO DAYS
1:14:36PM BEFORE MILTON I THINK IT WAS AND SAID, DON'T WORRY, WE HAVE
1:14:39PM THE RESOURCES STAGED.
1:14:40PM WE'RE COMING IN.
1:14:42PM EVERYTHING SET UP AND DIDN'T SEE THEM UNTIL A WEEK LATER.
1:14:46PM TAKING THEM WAY TOO LONG TO GET SET UP.
1:14:48PM TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED.
1:14:50PM I WON'T TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC CHALLENGES BUT YOU CAN LOOK
1:14:52PM ANYWHERE ONLINE AND SEE IT.
1:14:54PM IT IS NOT A RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY.
1:14:56PM REAL PEOPLE, A LOT OF THEM DEMOCRATS HAVING PROBLEMS.
1:14:59PM WHAT I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO IS SUPPORT OR SUPPLEMENT HELPING
1:15:04PM PEOPLE TO FILL OUT THE FEMA FORMS.
1:15:06PM LEGITIMATE LITTLE QUIRKS TO IT THAT ARE CAUSING PEOPLE
1:15:12PM PROBLEMS.

1:15:12PM I SAT DOWN WITH TWO FEMA PEOPLE ON TUESDAY, STEPHANIE SAT
1:15:17PM WITH ME.
1:15:19PM NUMBER ONE, I SAID YOU NEED TO BEEF UP YOUR CALL CENTERS.
1:15:22PM THEY SAID WE'RE DOING THAT.
1:15:23PM IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR SOMEBODY WHO LOST THEIR HOUSE AND
1:15:26PM EVERYTHING TO SIT FOR THREE OR FOUR HOURS ON THE PHONE.
1:15:29PM IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR THEM.
1:15:30PM NUMBER TWO, THEY NEED TO FIX THE WEBSITE.
1:15:32PM IF THERE IS A FIELD THAT IS CAUSING PEOPLE TO BE REJECTED
1:15:36PM FOR NO REASON, BECAUSE THEY PUT THE WRONG DATE OR SOMETHING
1:15:40PM LIKE THAT, THEY NEED TO FIX THAT.
1:15:43PM SO THEY SAID THEY WOULD TAKE THAT FEEDBACK BACK.
1:15:46PM BARKSDALE HAS OPENED UP.
1:15:49PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THIS AFTERNOON.
1:15:50PM I HEARD THERE WERE LONG LINES THIS MORNING.
1:15:52PM IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT TEMPORARILY THE CITY COULD HELP
1:15:55PM SUPPLEMENT THEM AND GET PEOPLE OUT TO HELP THEM, THAT WOULD
1:15:58PM BE VERY HELPFUL.
1:15:59PM I ASSUME THAT FEMA WOULD REIMBURSE US FOR IT.
1:16:02PM WE NEED LIKE 50 PEOPLE HELPING PEOPLE FILL OUT FORMS.
1:16:06PM FEMA WILL GO DOOR TO DOOR ALSO AND TAKING iPADS WITH THEM
1:16:10PM AND HELP PEOPLE FILL OUT THE FORMS AT THEIR HOUSES.
1:16:13PM SO THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HELPFUL, TOO.
1:16:15PM THAT JUST STARTED.
1:16:17PM ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PROMOTE THAT.

1:16:20PM I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, RAQUEL HAS BEEN VERY
1:16:24PM HELPFUL WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD DISABILITIES.
1:16:27PM BUT THERE ARE SOME CASES WHERE PEOPLE HAD PROBLEMS.
1:16:31PM THEY LOST EVERYTHING, AND THEY HAD PROBLEMS WITH FEMA.
1:16:35PM THE CITY HAS TRIED TO HELP THEM.
1:16:37PM COUNTY, HARRY COHEN'S OFFICE AND OTHERS TRYING TO HELP THEM.
1:16:40PM I CAN SHOW YOU THE E-MAILS LEGITIMATELY TRYING TO HELP THEM
1:16:44PM AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO.
1:16:46PM AT THEIR REQUEST PASSED SEVERAL OVER TO KATHY CASTOR'S
1:16:49PM OFFICE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP.
1:16:50PM THOSE ARE OTHER RESOURCES PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE.
1:16:52PM THERE'S SOME KIND OF SECRET SAUCE THAT WE NEED TO LEARN
1:16:55PM QUICKLY.
1:16:56PM IT'S NOT JUST POSTING TO THE INTERNET OR SOCIAL MEDIA THE
1:17:01PM CHECKLIST ON HOW TO DO IT.
1:17:03PM THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF CHECKLISTS.
1:17:05PM WE NEED PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN WITH PEOPLE AND HELP THEM FIGURE
1:17:08PM OUT HOW TO FILL OUT THE FORM BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP IT GO
1:17:11PM SMOOTHLY.
1:17:12PM MOST IMPORTANT THING PEOPLE SAID TODAY, THEY WANT TO KNOW WE
1:17:16PM CARE AND INTERESTED IN HELPING PEOPLE.
1:17:17PM IF WE CAN DO THAT SOME WAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
1:17:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS MEANS
1:17:23PM TESTING TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME.
1:17:25PM WHEN WE DID OUR MAP PROGRAM, IT WASN'T JUST THE MEANS

1:17:29PM TESTING, BUT IT WAS FRAUD-PROOFING THE MEANS TESTING.
1:17:34PM IT WAS A CONSTANT SHIFT.
1:17:36PM TOOK THEM ALMOST A FULL YEAR TO GET IT RIGHT.
1:17:39PM I THINK YOUR HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT I DO AGREE
1:17:42PM THAT IF WE JUST FOCUS ON IMPROVING THE FOLKS ACCESS TO FEMA.
1:17:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: I FEEL THAT TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FALL
1:18:00PM THROUGH THE CRACKS AND THE BENEFIT, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S
1:18:02PM DETRIMENT TO THIS.
1:18:05PM BENEFIT OUTWEIGHS THE DETRIMENT.
1:18:06PM THAT'S FINE.
1:18:07PM THE ISSUE MAY COME BACK.
1:18:09PM I FELT JUST WITH THE PEOPLE WE TALKED TO, FELT COMPELLED TO
1:18:13PM BRING IT UP.
1:18:14PM ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS, I THINK IT'S
1:18:17PM WORTHY TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO COME UP.
1:18:19PM WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
1:18:22PM WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT, THE MAYOR HAS PROPOSED THE BACKUP
1:18:27PM GENERATORS.
1:18:28PM HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?
1:18:30PM I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ASK THE ADMINISTRATION
1:18:33PM TO COME FORWARD WITH FUNDING SOLUTIONS TO ANY INFRASTRUCTURE
1:18:37PM PROPOSALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE.
1:18:39PM SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
1:18:42PM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO TO -- I -- I WANT TO HAVE A
1:18:47PM UNIFIED PROPOSAL ON WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM.

1:18:51PM IF WE DON'T WANT IT, GO, HEY, LISTEN, TAKE IT FROM THIS.
1:18:55PM TAKE IT FROM THAT.
1:18:56PM I THINK IT'S SMART THAT WE ASK THEM TO BE PREPARED FOR THE
1:19:00PM FLOOD -- NO PUN INTENDED -- THAT IS COMING ON REQUESTS ON
1:19:06PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
1:19:06PM DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
1:19:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
1:19:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: I GUESS IT IS NOT A MOTION.
1:19:12PM IT IS JUST A STATEMENT TO BE READY.
1:19:13PM THAT'S ALL.
1:19:14PM BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING FROM PARKLAND ESTATES, ET CETERA.
1:19:17PM IF WE WANT TO MAKE A ROBUST INVESTMENT RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING
1:19:20PM TO COST MONEY AND WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING
1:19:23PM TO BE COMING FROM AND BETTER TO GET THAT DONE NOW THAN
1:19:26PM LATER.
1:19:28PM LASTLY, THE FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD SENT A SERIES OF
1:19:31PM QUESTIONS TO STAFF ON THE PUMPS AND DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH
1:19:36PM THE FLOODED NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:19:37PM THEY DON'T NEED TO COME BACK.
1:19:39PM I WANT TO DO A MOTION REQUESTING THAT CITY STAFF ANSWER
1:19:42PM THOSE QUESTIONS WITHIN TEN DAYS.
1:19:46PM THAT'S IT.
1:19:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
1:19:47PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:19:48PM ALL IN FAVOR?

1:19:49PM AYE.
1:19:49PM ANY OPPOSED.
1:19:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS NOT A MOTION.
1:19:52PM OUR RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE VERY LIKELY IS GOING TO
1:19:55PM BE PUSHED A LITTLE BIT.
1:19:57PM I WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE MY OFFICE HAS BEEN DEALING WITH
1:19:59PM THAT, OBVIOUSLY GIVEN STAFF ISSUES, ET CETERA.
1:20:02PM WE'VE SPOKEN TO SOME FOLKS ALREADY.
1:20:04PM IT WILL VERY LIKELY GET PUSHED A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS
1:20:07PM UNFORTUNATE.
1:20:08PM THE THING SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
1:20:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THE COMMITTEE.
1:20:12PM THANK YOU.
1:20:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. VIERA, IF I CAN, TO ADD TO THAT, I
1:20:18PM BELIEVE THE FIRST MEETING WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR NEXT
1:20:23PM TUESDAY.
1:20:23PM I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW AT HANNA AVENUE IT WILL NOT BE
1:20:27PM HELD.
1:20:27PM IT WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
1:20:30PM IF I'M WRONG, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE MEETING, BRANDON
1:20:34PM WILL CORRECT ME.
1:20:35PM I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THE SCHEDULE,
1:20:38PM THERE IS NO MEETING TUESDAY.
1:20:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE SHOULD OBVIOUSLY PROMOTE THAT ON SOCIAL
1:20:43PM MEDIA.

1:20:44PM I NEVER PROMOTED THE ORIGINAL.
1:20:46PM WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT WITH IT, STORM ONE, STORM TWO, ONE
1:20:54PM BEGET THE OTHER.
1:20:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:20:57PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
1:20:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO THANK HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC
1:20:59PM SCHOOLS FOR THEIR OTHERS IN THIS STORM.
1:21:02PM WE HAD TO OPEN UP SCHOOLS AS SHELTERS.
1:21:04PM TEN OF OUR SCHOOLS WERE STILL FLOODED AS OF YESTERDAY OR THE
1:21:09PM DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY.
1:21:10PM A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T HAVE POWER.
1:21:12PM THEY HAD SOME CHALLENGES, BUT THEY HAVE MET THE MOMENT AS
1:21:15PM WELL IN WORKING WITH US TO ACCOMMODATE OUR CITIZENS.
1:21:19PM I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT PUBLICLY.
1:21:23PM ALSO, CONDOLENCES TO NORENE COPELAND MILLER'S FAMILY.
1:21:28PM SHE WAS A GREAT PUBLIC SERVANT, FIGHTER OF HER COMMUNITY.
1:21:33PM LOVER OF ALL THINGS CEMETERIES.
1:21:35PM BROUGHT SOME THINGS TO OUR ATTENTION IMMEDIATELY WHEN I CAME
1:21:39PM ON COUNCIL REGARDING MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
1:21:42PM HEART WAS THERE.
1:21:43PM FAMILY BURIED THERE.
1:21:44PM I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME LOVE PUBLICLY TO HER DAUGHTERS WHO
1:21:48PM ARE ALL HERE DURING HER ILLNESS.
1:21:53PM WHICH SHE WAS PRIVATE ABOUT FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
1:21:56PM HER FIGHT IS OVER AND MAY SHE REST IN PEACE.

1:21:59PM OTHER THAN THAT, ALSO, I JUST WANT ALL OF THE SMALL BUSINESS
1:22:03PM OWNERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THIS IS INCLUDING MYSELF,
1:22:06PM DON'T FORGET ABOUT US.
1:22:08PM SMALL BUSINESSES ARE OUT HERE FIGHTING EVERY DAY TO STAY
1:22:12PM ALIVE.
1:22:13PM I KNOW PEOPLE ARE NOT SPENDING MONEY RIGHT NOW, BUT SMALL
1:22:17PM BUSINESSES ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
1:22:20PM DON'T FORGET ABOUT THEM.
1:22:21PM THAT'S IT.
1:22:22PM THANK YOU.
1:22:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
1:22:23PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:22:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS KIND OF RESTATING THE OBVIOUS AND
1:22:30PM APPREHENSIVE TO DO IT.
1:22:32PM I DON'T WANT TO EVEN PUT IT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
1:22:34PM I WANT TO URGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO SCOUR FY '25 AND WHAT'S
1:22:39PM GOING TO BE LEFT OF '24 BUDGET TO IDENTIFY THE WANTS VERSUS
1:22:44PM NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO COME TO US AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE
1:22:47PM GOING TO FUND SOME OF THE BASIC -- I KNOW WE'LL GET
1:22:49PM REIMBURSED A LOT FROM FEMA FOR THE COST DIRECTLY RELATED TO
1:22:53PM BOTH OF THE NATURAL DISASTERS SINCE WE'VE BEEN DECLARED A
1:22:57PM MAJOR NATURAL DISASTER, OUR COUNTY.
1:22:58PM BUT SOME OF THE STUFF LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKED ABOUT,
1:23:02PM HAVING GENERATORS ON THESE PUMP STATIONS, RESOLVING SOME OF
1:23:07PM THESE ISSUES IN SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WE MAY NOT HAVE

1:23:10PM BUDGETED FOR THAT WE CAN HAVE A SOLUTION SOONER RATHER THAN
1:23:13PM LATER.
1:23:14PM I THINK IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO BE PREPARED TO HAVE THAT
1:23:19PM FISCAL DISCUSSION.
1:23:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, DO YOU HAVE NEW
1:23:22PM BUSINESS?
1:23:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, ON THAT NOTE.
1:23:25PM I MOVE TO SCHEDULE A HURRICANE HELENE AND HURRICANE MILTON
1:23:29PM POSTMORTEM WORKSHOP TO INCLUDE A SWOT ANALYSIS, WHICH IS
1:23:33PM STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, AND THREATS FOR EACH
1:23:36PM CITY DEPARTMENT, SPECIFICALLY BASED ON OUR RECENT RESPONSE
1:23:39PM AND RECOVERY, WHAT SHOULD WE DO DIFFERENTLY NEXT TIME, WHAT
1:23:42PM PROJECTS NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED TO PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE.
1:23:46PM AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
1:23:49PM WHEN I WAS DESCRIBING SWOT TO FOLKS, WE USE THIS A LOT IN
1:23:53PM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
1:23:54PM BUT WHEN I WAS A FIRST GRADE TEACHER, WE CALLED IT THREE
1:23:57PM KISSES AND A WISH AND I HAD A LITTLE WAND, LITTLE STAR, AND
1:24:01PM LITTLE STUFF ON IT.
1:24:02PM AND THEY WOULD BRING YOU LIKE A PIECE OF WRITING AND YOU
1:24:05PM WOULD SAY, THIS WAS GREAT, THIS WAS GREAT, THIS WAS GREAT.
1:24:08PM NEXT TIME, I'D LIKE YOU TO TRY DOING THIS.
1:24:11PM A SWOT ANALYSIS IS NOT A NEGATIVE THING.
1:24:13PM IT IS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT TO BE HONEST BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE
1:24:18PM DAY IN MY LIFE I CAN KNOW WHAT I DIDN'T DO RIGHT AND WHAT I

1:24:22PM CAN DO BETTER.
1:24:26PM THEY ARE VERY FUN TO MAKE.
1:24:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT DAY ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO THIS?
1:24:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE THING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
1:24:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THINK ABOUT IT BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER
1:24:35PM --
1:24:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN.
1:24:39PM BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME AND HOW -- IT FEELS LIKE WE
1:24:45PM NEED --
1:24:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE DAY.
1:24:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW.
1:24:48PM IT ALSO FEELS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME.
1:24:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO DO THIS RIGHT WE HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF
1:24:55PM TIME.
1:24:55PM I THINK WE'RE STILL IN RECOVERY MODE.
1:24:57PM I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
1:24:59PM I DON'T BELIEVE THE MAYOR RESCINDED THAT.
1:25:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HONESTLY, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO IT
1:25:06PM ON A TUESDAY ALL DAY.
1:25:08PM I'M NOT RECOMMENDING A DATE YET.
1:25:10PM THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT TO US.
1:25:13PM BECAUSE, HONESTLY, HALLOWEEN IS OPEN.
1:25:16PM TOO EARLY, I GET IT.
1:25:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M THINKING FEBRUARY.
1:25:21PM OUR STAFF WILL NOT KNOW THE LESSONS LEARNED UNTIL THEN.

1:25:27PM THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING.
1:25:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS WHY I'M SAYING, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE
1:25:36PM DO WAIT AND IF COUNCILMAN VIERA, IF OTHERS AND YOU YOURSELF
1:25:41PM SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SCOUR THE BUDGET, NOW IS THE
1:25:46PM TIME.
1:25:47PM FEBRUARY, HALF THE YEAR IS GONE.
1:25:50PM I DON'T DISAGREE.
1:25:51PM BUT MY POINT IS, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, SOME DEPARTMENTS
1:25:55PM ARE GOING, HM, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT.
1:26:00PM REALLY PROUD OF US FOR BEING ABLE TO DO THIS OR REFLECTFUL
1:26:05PM ON DOING THAT.
1:26:06PM I DON'T THINK IT IS A WRONG TIME TO SIT DOWN AND COME UP
1:26:09PM WITH SOMETHING SOONER BECAUSE HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT
1:26:12PM IS A BIG DEAL.
1:26:14PM FOR ME, I DON'T WANT THAT, WEST RIVER TO GO ANY FURTHER
1:26:18PM BECAUSE I THINK WE END UP USING THAT MONEY.
1:26:21PM SAME THING WITH FORENSICS BUILDINGS.
1:26:24PM THOSE ARE WANTS.
1:26:25PM THEY ARE NOT NEEDS.
1:26:27PM AND THE LONGER WE WAIT TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS.
1:26:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON ANY OF THE
1:26:34PM PROJECTS.
1:26:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T EITHER.
1:26:35PM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
1:26:36PM WE NEED TO SIT DOWN.

1:26:38PM WE NEED TO HAVE FOLKS COME TO US.
1:26:40PM WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
1:26:42PM WE CANNOT KICK IT TILL FEBRUARY.
1:26:47PM >> KICK IT TO FEBRUARY?
1:26:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PRUDENT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO NOT
1:26:52PM LET OUT ANY FURTHER CONTRACTS ON SPECIFIC ISSUES UNTIL WE
1:26:56PM HAVE THIS DISCUSSION?
1:26:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, WE COULD GO TO --
1:27:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE A TIME IN DECEMBER?
1:27:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
1:27:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T SUPPORT A WORKSHOP
1:27:10PM BUT HOW ABOUT THE SWOT ANALYSIS ITSELF, CAN WE GET THAT FROM
1:27:14PM EACH DEPARTMENT BY THE END OF THE MONTH IN WRITING TO US
1:27:18PM FIRST?
1:27:20PM THAT WOULD GIVE US A DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT AT THE END OF THE
1:27:24PM MONTH.
1:27:25PM THEY PROBABLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS.
1:27:29PM THEY COULD HAVE A QUICK MEETING WHERE THEY ARE JUST GIVING
1:27:32PM WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND
1:27:34PM THREATS.
1:27:35PM IT'S NOT AS SERIOUS AS YOU THINK --
1:27:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WON'T BE COMPLETE.
1:27:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY CAN GIVE IT TO US BY THE END OF THE
1:27:46PM MONTH.
1:27:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT IT STILL WON'T BE COMPLETE.

1:27:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S OKAY.
1:27:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CORRECT.
1:27:51PM THAT IS THE FOUNDATION OF AT LEAST GETTING STARTED PRIOR TO
1:27:53PM US HAVING A WORKSHOP IS WE HAVE AT LEAST THAT INFORMATION BY
1:27:56PM THE END OF THE MONTH AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE ON A DATE, YOU
1:27:59PM KNOW, FOR A WORKSHOP SO WE COULD HAVE SOME DIRECTION.
1:28:03PM WE DO HAVE RULES REGARDING OUR WORKSHOPS AS WELL.
1:28:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT WE ASK FOR THE LIST THEY HAVE,
1:28:13PM THEIR PRELIMINARY -- THE PRELIMINARY SWOT ANALYSIS?
1:28:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH, COULD BE THEIR DRAFT.
1:28:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, BY THE END OF OCTOBER, OCTOBER 31st,
1:28:22PM BY HALLOWEEN.
1:28:26PM OR, ACTUALLY, I WILL MAKE IS ALL SOULS DAY.
1:28:27PM WE'LL DO NOVEMBER 1st, WHICH IS A FRIDAY.
1:28:29PM THEN FROM THERE, ONCE WE GET THAT, WE CAN SET ANOTHER.
1:28:32PM I DO WANT THAT TO INCLUDE A SWOT ANALYSIS AND THEN FROM THE
1:28:38PM MAIN ADMINISTRATION WHERE WE CAN GET SOME MONEY.
1:28:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO TWO MOTIONS.
1:28:46PM THE FIRST MOTION WHICH I'LL SECOND.
1:28:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, I KNOW WE'RE UNDER A STATE
1:28:51PM OF EMERGENCY AND THEY ARE ALL OVERLOADED.
1:28:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DEPENDING ON, THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR
1:28:58PM THE ADMINISTRATION TO RESPOND TO THIS MOTION TO THIS COUNCIL
1:29:04PM IN A MEETING IN ADVANCE OF WHEN IT'S DUE.
1:29:06PM WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU, IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THEM BEING

1:29:10PM ABLE TO COMPLY, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE BY E-MAILS
1:29:14PM OR TALKING TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY.
1:29:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SWOT ANALYSIS, THEY DON'T NEED TO TALK TO
1:29:21PM US.
1:29:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SAYING -- WHAT I'M SAYING THIS CHAMBER
1:29:25PM IS EMPTY OF STAFF AND YOU'RE MAKING REQUESTS OF THE
1:29:28PM ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THEY COME BACK.
1:29:31PM THAT'S FINE.
1:29:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [INAUDIBLE]
1:29:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE IS THE THING, I WILL CHANGE IT TO
1:29:40PM NOVEMBER 8.
1:29:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SWOT ANALYSIS.
1:29:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST FOR A DRAFT SWOT ANALYSIS FOR NOVEMBER
1:29:47PM 8.
1:29:48PM I MOVE TO SCHEDULE HURRICANE HELENE AND HURRICANE MILTON
1:29:51PM SWOT ANALYSIS FOR EACH CITY DEPARTMENT TO BE DELIVERED NO
1:29:56PM LATER THAN NOVEMBER 8 FOR A DRAFT TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S
1:30:02PM E-MAIL ADDRESS.
1:30:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
1:30:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
1:30:09PM YOU KNOW HOW LIKE TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT WITHOUT A
1:30:11PM WORKSHOP, WE CAN LITERALLY, BECAUSE OF THE URGENT NEED OF
1:30:14PM THIS, EVERY MEETING WE COULD -- I THOUGHT IT WAS ON.
01:30:18PM IT IS ON.
01:30:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY TURN IT ON FOR YOU.
01:30:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
01:30:25PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE A HARD DATE IF
01:30:30PM WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS.
01:30:31PM BECAUSE THIS IS A CRISIS ISSUE.
01:30:33PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW AND THIS IS NOT A WORKSHOP.
01:30:36PM A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE CAN TAG ON ONCE WE RECEIVE
01:30:42PM THIS ON NOVEMBER 8 WHERE WE ARE AT LEAST ADDRESSING IT
01:30:44PM CONSISTENTLY RATHER THAN -- AND THEN GETTING TO A WORKSHOP
01:30:48PM DATE, AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT ALONG THE WAY.
01:30:51PM JUST A SUGGESTION.
01:30:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:30:53PM AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:30:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU PUT A PAGE LIMIT
01:30:58PM OF, LIKE, TWO OR THREE PAGES.
01:31:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
01:31:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: SPECIFICALLY PUT THAT AS AN INSTRUCTION
01:31:05PM BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY MAY FEEL PRESSURED FOR 50 PAGES WHEN
01:31:09PM IT SHOULD BE TWO OR THREE.
01:31:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS FINE.
01:31:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE TALKED OF HAVING ANOTHER MOTION.
01:31:14PM THAT ENABLING US TO PUT THE WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY OR
01:31:20PM SOMEWHERE OUT.
01:31:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE HAVE A HURRICANE HELENE HURRICANE
01:31:24PM ANALYSIS NO MORE THAN TWO PAGES TO BE DELIVERED --
01:31:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TWO PAGES EACH.
01:31:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EACH DEPARTMENT, TWO PAGES PER DEPARTMENT NO
01:31:37PM MORE THAN TWO PAGES PER DEPARTMENT TO DELIVER TO CITY
01:31:45PM COUNCIL E-MAIL NO LATER -- OR BY NOVEMBER 8.
01:31:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:31:52PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:31:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
01:31:55PM YES, MA'AM, ANYTHING ELSE?
01:31:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:31:58PM I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF -- AND THIS ONE WE MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE.
01:32:06PM BUT I DON'T KNOW IF -- IF WE -- IF WE DID THIS.
01:32:11PM I AM GOING TO SET THIS FOR NOW AND IF WE HAVE TO MOVE IT, WE
01:32:15PM WILL HAVE TO MOVE IT.
01:32:16PM I MOVE STAFF PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT DECEMBER 5, 2024 THAT
01:32:20PM WILL BE AN UPDATE ON THE REVIEW OF THE FEES AND POTENTIAL
01:32:23PM FEE RIGHT-SIZING FOR PARKS AND REC, THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND
01:32:28PM NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCE THE AND INCLUDE THE INFORMING REPORTED
01:32:30PM TO THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY COUNCIL.
01:32:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
01:32:35PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
01:32:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AN UPDATE OF THE REVIEW OF FEES -- POTENTIAL
01:32:41PM FEE RIGHT-SIZING FOR PARKS AND REC.
01:32:44PM CLERK'S OFFICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT.
01:32:46PM I AM DOING THESE IN TRANCHES AND THESE ARE THE THREE THAT
01:32:51PM ARE READY TO GO.
01:32:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO THEY ARE ALREADY DOING THAT.
01:32:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AN UPDATE.
01:32:55PM WRITTEN REVIEW.
01:32:56PM WRITTEN REPORT.
01:32:56PM THEY KNOW IT IS COMING.
01:32:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONGOING PROCESS.
01:33:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND.
01:33:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:33:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
01:33:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THAT WILL DO.
01:33:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:33:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: A COUPLE OF THINGS, A FEW THING, PLEASE.
01:33:10PM NUMBER ONE, FOLK TALK OF SOUTH TAMPA AND THEY -- THERE IS A
01:33:13PM CERTAIN IMAGE OF WHAT SOUTH TAMPA IS.
01:33:15PM JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, PEOPLE THINK IT IS RICH.
01:33:21PM EVERYBODY IS RICH AND EVERYBODY HAS MONEY AND IT IS ALL
01:33:24PM WHITE.
01:33:24PM THERE IS A -- THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER OF MIDDLE-CLASS FOLKS
01:33:29PM IN SOUTH TAMPA.
01:33:30PM AND MOST OF -- MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE WIPED OUT,
01:33:33PM THE HOUSES WERE SINGLE-FAMILY RANCH-STEEL HOMES AND MANY
01:33:37PM HAVE BEEN WITH THE FAMILIES FOR GENERATIONS.
01:33:39PM KEEP THAT IN MIND.
01:33:40PM THEY ARE NOT ALL MULTIMILLIONAIRES.
01:33:43PM HISTORIC BLACK COMMUNITY IN PORT TAMPA, THE SENTENCE OF THE
01:33:48PM LONGSHOREMEN.
01:33:49PM MANY OF THEM HOUSES HAVE BEEN IN THEIR FAMILIES FOR
01:33:52PM GENERATIONS AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE BECAUSE OF THAT.
01:33:54PM AND SO THEY LOST EVERYTHING AS WELL.
01:33:56PM SO -- THERE IS DIVERSITY IN ALL DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE
01:34:00PM COMMUNITY.
01:34:00PM I WOULD LIKE TO -- YOU DIDN'T SCHEDULE A WORK.
01:34:06PM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT?
01:34:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T SCHEDULE A WORK.
01:34:10PM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE WANTED SWAT FIRST.
01:34:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TENTATIVELY LOOKING AT FEBRUARY.
01:34:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM THINKING JANUARY, TO BE HONEST YOU WITH.
01:34:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKSHOP INCLUDES A
01:34:22PM SPECIFIC -- I CAN KEEP TRACK OR YOU CAN.
01:34:24PM IT NEEDS TO INCLUDE A SPECIFIC ITEM OR AGENDA ITEM THAT IS
01:34:29PM ABOUT STORM RECOVERY PLAN, BECAUSE -- BECAUSE THE -- BECAUSE
01:34:34PM IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE STORM RECOVERY PLAN IN A MAJOR
01:34:36PM DISASTER WAS INADEQUATE WHAT WE HIT.
01:34:41PM I WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT.
01:34:43PM ALSO I WON'T MAKE A MOTION ON IT AND I WILL WAIT AND LET
01:34:46PM THAT BE PART OF THE PLAN.
01:34:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WAIT A MINUTE, YOU SAID --
01:34:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: RECOVERY.
01:34:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE
01:34:56PM IS SAYING.
01:34:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON.
01:35:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CITY HAD TO QUICKLY ASSEMBLE AND ADAPT
01:35:03PM TO THE UNIQUE SITUATION THAT HAPPENED.
01:35:05PM WE NEVER HAD STORM SURGE LIKE THAT BEFORE.
01:35:07PM AND NOW WE KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.
01:35:09PM IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A THREAT, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO
01:35:12PM MOBILIZE QUICKER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
01:35:14PM I AM NOT CRITICIZING ANYBODY, BUT AS THE STORMS GET WORSE
01:35:20PM AND WORSE WE NEED TO REUP OUR PLANS.
01:35:22PM ALL ABOUT RELOOKING AT THE STORM RECOVERY PLAN.
01:35:24PM I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION.
01:35:26PM IT CAN BE ADDED TO THAT.
01:35:27PM ONE THING WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR STORMWATER PLAN.
01:35:30PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO -- I THINK THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE THAN
01:35:34PM THESE LONG DISCUSSIONS.
01:35:35PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
01:35:37PM POSSIBLE TO ADD IT TO THE JANUARY 30 WORKSHOP?
01:35:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE IS.
01:35:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS IT FULL?
01:35:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS OUR LIMIT.
01:35:55PM SHELBY YOUR LIMIT IS TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO BE DONE BY 1:00.
01:36:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU WANT TO DO IT ON A TUESDAY?
01:36:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: FEBRUARY HAS FOUR.
01:36:10PM THE WORKSHOP YOU HAVE IS GOING TO LEAD INTO THIS.
01:36:13PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO PUT A DISCUSSION
01:36:17PM WITH STAFF ABOUT UPDATING AND MODERNIZING THE STORMWATER
01:36:22PM PLAN ON FEBRUARY 27 SHOP.
01:36:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. SHELBY.
01:36:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES YOUR MICROPHONE NEED TO BE ON.
01:36:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IT DOES.
01:36:38PM THAT WILL HELP.
01:36:40PM LOOK AT THE JANUARY 30 WORKSHOP ITEMS.
01:36:43PM FOUR OF THEM ARE YOUR MOTIONS.
01:36:45PM AND MAYBE YOU CAN REPRIORITIZE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW
01:36:49PM THIS PACK ON.
01:36:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE AN IDEA, ACCEPT COUNCILMAN
01:36:55PM CARLSON'S MOTION TO PUT IT ON THAT AND AS AN IOU TO LOOK AT
01:36:59PM THE PAGE TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE COULD MOVE.
01:37:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: FEBRUARY.
01:37:04PM JANUARY OR FEBRUARY?
01:37:09PM OKAY, JANUARY -- I WILL MOVE SOMETHING FROM JANUARY 30 AND
01:37:12PM PUT IT THERE.
01:37:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON ABOUT
01:37:16PM ADDING STORMWATER TO THE JANUARY 30 WORKSHOP.
01:37:19PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
01:37:21PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
01:37:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, THING IS A SUPER -- THIS IS GOING TO BE
01:37:27PM ONGOING.
01:37:28PM AND WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT FIT IT IN TO OUR NORMAL WORK.
01:37:31PM AND I -- I -- I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THAT TIME WHERE WE NEED TO
01:37:38PM USE EXTRA DAYS TO FOCUS ON NOTHING BUT THIS.
01:37:41PM WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY.
01:37:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY -- WE HAVE THE OTHER ITEMS COMING
01:37:46PM UP BUT YOU ARE SCHEDULING A WHOLE DAY AND THAT DAY HAS TO BE
01:37:49PM BEFORE THIS.
01:37:50PM THAT DAY WILL BE THE INPUT INTO THIS.
01:37:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS SORT OF WHAT I AM SAYING.
01:37:54PM IN YOUR -- IF WE HAVE IT IN -- IN -- I THINK IT WILL BE A
01:38:01PM MUCH LONGER DISCUSSION THAN ONE OUT OF FIVE EYE.
01:38:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CAN I SUGGEST WE GO
01:38:06PM WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S IDEA AND THEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN
01:38:10PM MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS DOING AN EXTRA DAY?
01:38:12PM BECAUSE WE COULD ALWAYS ADD AN EXTRA DAY, BUT WE HAVE A
01:38:15PM PLACEHOLDER JUST IN CASE.
01:38:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH THAT.
01:38:18PM BUT I ALSO -- ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BRING
01:38:21PM FORWARD TO THE NEXT MEETING NOVEMBER 7th IS EVERYBODY BRING
01:38:30PM WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT AT THAT WORKSHOP.
01:38:33PM IF YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS AND YOU HAVE IDEAS.
01:38:36PM LET'S EVERYBODY BRING IDEAS AND MY OFFICE CAN SET THE ONLY
01:38:40PM AFTER EVERYONE GIVES THEIR IDEAS.
01:38:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
01:38:44PM HE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:38:49PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SETTING AN AGENDA ITEM
01:38:52PM FOR JANUARY 30 FOR STORMWATER.
01:38:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: TO DISCUSS UPDATING AND MODERNIZING THE
01:38:58PM STORMWATER PLAN.
01:38:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND GET IT TO HER OFFICE AND SHE WILL WORK
01:39:04PM WITH THAT.
01:39:04PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:39:05PM OPPOSED.
01:39:06PM AYES HAVE IT.
01:39:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANOTHER THING -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO
01:39:10PM THIS IN OUR MEETING.
01:39:11PM WHAT HAPPENED IN PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING, I THINK WE
01:39:13PM NEED -- WHERE EVERYBODY WENT LONG.
01:39:15PM I THINK TO KIND OF PROTECT THE CHAIR.
01:39:18PM IF THERE IS -- MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER A RULE THAT IF
01:39:22PM SOMEBODY IS ALLOWED TO GO LONG, THAT THE CLERK WILL KEEP
01:39:25PM TRACK OF THE TIME AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE NEW -- IF
01:39:29PM SOMEBODY ASKS FOR TIME, WE WOULDN'T LET ANYBODY GO PAST
01:39:32PM THAT, BECAUSE -- JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY GOES A MINUTE OVER SO
01:39:36PM THE NEXT PERSON CAN'T GO FIVE OR TEN MINUTES EARLIER.
01:39:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS GOING TO SAY -- LET ME INTERJECT
01:39:43PM INTO THAT.
01:39:44PM WHAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN IS, ONE, A COUNCIL PERSON SHOULD HAVE
01:39:48PM CALLED A POINT OF ORDER TO ENFORCE THE RULES.
01:39:50PM AND IF -- IF THERE WAS THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO EXTEND PUBLIC
01:39:55PM COMMENT TIME, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE EQUABLY AMONGST EVERY
01:40:00PM SPEAKER.
01:40:01PM SO THAT -- THERE WAS -- THERE WAS SEVEN OF US UP HERE.
01:40:04PM AND WE ALL HAD THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND WE CHOSE NOT TO.
01:40:08PM THE REASON I DIDN'T DO IT, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
01:40:12PM NATURAL DISASTER AND A LOT PAIN AND ANGUISH AND I FEEL THAT
01:40:15PM PEOPLE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
01:40:16PM BUT I THINK -- FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, I THINK WE DO HAVE THE
01:40:20PM ABILITY, PARLIAMENTARIAN PROCEDURES TO DO THAT.
01:40:24PM BUT THIS WAS -- THIS WAS A SPECIAL SITUATION.
01:40:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T LOSE THAT, BUT
01:40:29PM I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT.
01:40:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:40:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I DON'T DISAGREE BECAUSE THIS -- THIS WAS
01:40:38PM A NATURAL DISASTER.
01:40:39PM BUT THAT GOES TO MY POINT AS TO WHY DEPARTMENT HEADS
01:40:44PM SHOULDN'T HAVE LEFT.
01:40:44PM BECAUSE TODAY WAS A NATIONAL DISASTER AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS
01:40:48PM THE TIME TO LISTEN.
01:40:49PM SO I JUST -- PEOPLE JUST WANT TO BE HEARD AND THEY WANT --
01:40:53PM AND THEY WANT THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE CITY TO HEAR THEM.
01:40:55PM AND THAT -- SO THAT WAS MY --
01:40:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NO FURTHER NEW BUSINESS --
01:41:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I -- TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS.
01:41:03PM A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THE JACKSON
01:41:07PM HOUSE SURVIVING.
01:41:08PM AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE -- I TRIED TO SAVE IT IN 2012.
01:41:12PM AND WE WERE STOPPED BY THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.
01:41:14PM THE -- SINCE THEN, THE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN RUNNING IT.
01:41:18PM WE GAVE AS CRA BOARD WE GAVE THEM $1 MILLION FOUR YEARS AGO
01:41:22PM AND THEN GAVE THEM MONEY.
01:41:23PM AND THEN THEY HAVE PUT OBSTACLE AFTER OBSTACLE AFTER US AND
01:41:28PM WAIVED ALL THOSE OBSTACLES AND STAFF DEPARTURE.
01:41:31PM STAFF WAS PULLING THEIR HAIR OUT BECAUSE FRUSTRATED WITH THE
01:41:34PM JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION.
01:41:36PM I PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED USING CONDEMNATION RULES TO TAKE THE
01:41:40PM BUILDINGS BACK AND FINE THEM.
01:41:42PM A COMMUNION ASSET.
01:41:43PM WE -- WE OFFERED AND CONTINUED HAVING THE JACKSON HOUSE
01:41:47PM FOUNDATION DO AN UPDATE TO US AT CRA EIGHT TIMES.
01:41:51PM EACH TIME THEY CANCELLED.
01:41:52PM I AM NOT MAKING A MOTION NOW BUT IN THE NEXT CRA MEETING, I
01:41:57PM WILL MAKE MA MOTION THAT WE GIVE THEM A DEADLINE OR WITHDRAW
01:42:01PM THEIR MONEY.
01:42:01PM BECAUSE THEY EITHER NEED TO TEAR IT DOWN OR RESTORE IT.
01:42:05PM NOT ACCEPTABLE ANYMORE.
01:42:06PM THE LAST THING -- I AM NOT ON TIK TOK, BUT MY KIDS AND
01:42:10PM OTHERS TELL ME THAT TWO STARS CAME -- TWO TIK TOK STARS CAME
01:42:15PM WITH THE HURRICANES.
01:42:16PM ONE WAS LIEUTENANT DAN.
01:42:17PM ALL MY KIDS AND ALL THEIR FRIENDS WERE WATCHING LIEUTENANT
01:42:20PM DAN.
01:42:21PM I EVEN TALKED TO THE MAYOR ABOUT IT.
01:42:23PM ARGUMENT WHETHER LIEUTENANT DAN STAYED IN HIS BOAT OR NOT.
01:42:26PM AND THE MAYOR SAID OFFICIALLY THEY -- THEY TOOK HIM OUT OF
01:42:30PM THE BOAT AND HE DECIDED TO GO BACK.
01:42:33PM THAT IS THE ANSWER TO THAT.
01:42:34PM THE OTHER ONE -- I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS -- SORRY IF HE DOESN'T
01:42:38PM LIKE ME MENTIONING THIS.
01:42:39PM LARRY WASHINGTON HAS BECOME A TIK TOK STAR AS WELL.
01:42:42PM CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM.
01:42:44PM >> THE THIRST IS REAL.
01:42:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOTIONED IT AND CHARLIE SECONDED IT.
01:42:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
01:42:58PM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:43:00PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
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