TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2024, 9:00 A.M.

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9:06:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO
ORDER.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:06:47AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:06:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:06:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:06:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
9:06:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:06:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:06:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:06:55AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:06:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON FOR
TODAY'S INVOCATION.
9:07:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PASTOR ALAN M. HARRIS HAS THE SINGLE HONOR
OF SERVING AS THE LEAD SERVANT SENIOR PASTOR OF BEULAH
BAPTIST INSTITUTIONAL CHURCH, THE OLDEST AFRICAN AMERICAN
BAPTIST CHURCH IN TAMPA.

PASTOR HARRIS HOLDS THREE POSTGRADUATE DEGREES AND IS
CURRENTLY WORKING ON HIS FOURTH.
PASTOR HARRIS IS A STAUNCH ADVOCATE OF SOCIAL JUSTICE
MATTERS AND MINISTERING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
HE IS MARRIED TO JOY FOR 18 YEARS AND PROUD PARENTS OF
ISAIAH ALAN AND 13-YEAR-OLD AND THEIR BLESSED SURPRISE IVANA
L. HARRIS WHO IS 6 MONTHS OLD.
WELCOME, PASTOR HARRIS.
9:07:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:07:47AM >> LET US PRAY.
ETERNAL GOD, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, HOW THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL
WE ARE FOR THIS ANOTHER DAY WHICH YOU HAVE ALLOWED US TO
SEE.
FATHER, AS YOU HAVE ALLOWED US TO GATHER IN THIS PLACE AT
THIS APPOINTED TIME, FATHER, WE ARE REMINDED THAT YOU TOLD
US IN YOUR WORD THAT WE ARE TO GIVE THANKS IN ALL THINGS.
SO THIS MORNING, GOD, WE ARE SO THANKFUL AS WE COUNT THE
MANY BLESSINGS WHICH YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US.
FATHER, AS WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH THE AFTERMATH OF
HURRICANE MILTON, FATHER, WE TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED ON
THIS MORNING.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR LIFE, THANK YOU FOR HEALTH, AND
THANK YOU FOR STRENGTH.
FATHER, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US AND SUSTAINING US IN THE

MIDST OF IT ALL.
THIS MORNING, GOD, WE THANK YOU, LORD, ALSO, FOR THE VARIOUS
LEADERS THAT YOU HAVE RAISED UP AND APPOINTED FOR SUCH A
TIME AS THIS.
FATHER, WE ASK GOD YOUR CONTINUED BLESSINGS UPON THEM, THAT,
GOD, THEY WOULD SEEK YOUR FACE FOR WISDOM THAT THEY WOULD
SEEK YOUR FACE FOR INSIGHT, GOD, THAT THEY WOULD SEEK YOUR
FACE FOR GUIDANCE.
FATHER, AS THEY CONTINUE TO, LORD, TO MINISTER AND SERVE THE
PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT CITY, FATHER, CONTINUE LORD TO HELP
THEM TO BE STEADFAST AND UNMOVABLE, ALWAYS IN THE WORK OF
THE LORD KNOWING THEIR LABOR IS NOT IN VAIN.
WE PRAY NOW GOD THAT WE WOULD NOT ONLY BE PEOPLE WHO WOULD
THANK YOU, LORD, FOR OUR LEADERS BUT, FATHER, MAY WE COME
AROUND THEM, MAY WE SUPPORT THEM, MAY WE ENCOURAGE THEM,
LORD, AS THEY CONTINUE, LORD, TO SERVE THIS GREAT CITY.
FATHER, CONTINUE TO BLESS US AS ONLY YOU CAN.
IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
9:09:28AM >> AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:09:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE ALREADY DID ROLL CALL.
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REVIEW THE RULES AND PROCEDURE
OF PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:09:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I WILL BE BRIEF WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING.
THERE ARE SPEAKER CARDS FOR YOU TO FILL OUT TO PLACE IN THE
BOX OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
ONE CARD PER SPEAKER, PLEASE.
CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
EACH PERSON SPEAKING WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO APPROACH
AND SPEAK.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE IS
ONE I BELIEVE ON TODAY'S AGENDA, USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET
INSTEAD.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS.
AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM
DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING
REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES, SOUNDS OR
DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL
ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBERS

OF THE PUBLIC.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THESE COUNCIL RULES MAY BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY.
FINALLY, COUNCIL, PLEASE KNOW THAT THE RULES REQUIRE YOU TO
REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER A PUBLIC COMMENT
SECTION AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL
PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR
OPINION.
THANK YOU.
9:11:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING.
ITEM NUMBER 1, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK IS GOING TO CONTINUE
THAT ITEM, CORRECT?
9:11:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
THE COMMENDATION FOR HARRY HEDGES WILL BE CONTINUED TO A
FUTURE DATE.
MR. HEDGES' HOME WAS DAMAGED DURING HELENE.
WE'LL FIND A FUTURE DATE THAT WORKS FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY.
I DO NOT HAVE A DATE TO MOVE IT TO.
9:11:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO A FUTURE DATE.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
WE'LL DETERMINE THE DATE.

ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 2 IS MY ITEM.
I WOULD HIKE TO CONTINUE THAT IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A MOTION FOR FUTURE DATE.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ALL RIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CEREMONIAL
TODAY, REGARDING THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, AS WE BEGIN THIS
MEETING, AFTER WE GO THROUGH HOUSEKEEPING, THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION PROVIDE US A STORM UPDATE.
WE NEED A MOTION.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
MOTION, I RECEIVED A MEMO TO PULL ITEMS 39 AND 40 AND PLACE
THEM UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.

ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
YES, MA'AM.
IT'S BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THAT'S WHY.
9:12:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ITEM
40.
I JUST WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT NOW.
9:12:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
WHEN WE GET TO IT, MR. SHELBY WILL GO THROUGH EVERYTHING.
9:12:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE I'LL HAVE TO RECUSE
MYSELF WHEN IT COMES TIME.
9:12:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
39 AND 40 PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
I HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED TO CONTINUE ITEMS 53 AND 54 TO
NOVEMBER 7.
53 AND 54 ARE BEING CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 7 FOR THE
10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER --
9:13:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'LL HAVE TO HOLD THOSE
UNTIL 10:30 A.M.
9:13:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, 53 AND 54 WE'LL HAVE TO HOLD IT
UNTIL 10:30, BUT THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS TO
NOVEMBER 7.
UNDER STAFF REPORTS -- I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT A LOT OF THESE

ARE REQUESTING TO BE CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 5th.
WE ARE ALREADY HAVE FIVE STAFF REPORTS SET FOR NOVEMBER 5,
LEAVING ROOM FOR TWO MORE UNLESS COUNCIL WAIVES THE RULES
WHICH WOULD MAKE 11 FOR DECEMBER 5.
CAN ANY BE CONVERTED TO WRITTEN STAFF REPORT, SET FOR A
LATER DATE THAT HAS AVAILABLE STAFF REPORTS?
I'LL GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE.
FIRST, WE'LL ASK FOR ITEM NUMBER 58, THERE IS A REQUEST TO
MOVE THAT TO DECEMBER 5th UNDER WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
IS THAT GOOD?
9:14:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE MOVE THAT FURTHER?
CAN WE MOVE THAT INTO JANUARY?
IT'S NOT SOMETHING NECESSARILY PRESSING.
9:14:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET ME GET A JANUARY DATE.
WE HAVE JANUARY 23.
9:14:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE ITEM 58 TO JANUARY 23.
9:14:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
58 IS MOTION TO JANUARY 23 UNDER
IN-PERSON STAFF REPORTS.
9:14:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JANUARY 23.
IT'S OPEN.
9:14:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S FINE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.

ANY OPPOSED.
9:14:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE SAME FOR 59.
9:14:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
59, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THAT WAS YOUR
MOTION.
IS THAT GOOD FOR JANUARY 23rd OR WANT IT FOR SURE ON
DECEMBER 5?
9:14:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S DO JANUARY 23.
THAT PARK WAS FLOODED AND OFFICER PAZ WILL BE HERE IN
DECEMBER.
LET'S DO JANUARY.
9:14:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND FOR 59 FOR JANUARY
23rd.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 60 --
9:15:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY NOT DO THE SAME THING.
9:15:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
60, JANUARY 23.
THAT'S MY MOTION, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE THE MOTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 61, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS TO
NOVEMBER 21st.

IS THAT GOOD?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEM NUMBER 62, THIS IS FOR A DECEMBER 5 CONTINUATION.
9:15:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE DO THAT IN JANUARY?
9:15:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JANUARY 23, IS THAT GOOD, COUNCILMAN
VIERA?
9:15:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IS DECEMBER PARTICULARLY PACKED?
9:15:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, VERY, VERY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR JANUARY 23 FOR ITEM 62.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ITEM NUMBER 63, ALSO A REQUEST -- COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:15:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF IT WILL BE CONTINUED
TO DECEMBER 5, THE NEXT QUARTERLY UPDATE WILL BE JANUARY 9
ANYWAY.
I SAY WE CANCEL THIS AND WAIT UNTIL JANUARY 9.
9:16:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO STRIKE FROM THE AGENDA THEN.
9:16:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:16:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?

ITEM 63 WE'RE GOING TO STRIKE THAT FROM THE AGENDA AND WAIT
UNTIL THE JANUARY 9.
ITEM 64, COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:16:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DECEMBER 5 IS FINE.
9:16:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
64 IS MOTION TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER
5th BY COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
FOR WRITTEN STAFF REPORT, 65, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR A
DECEMBER 5th, BUT IT'S WRITTEN.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:16:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEP.
9:16:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:16:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I DON'T NEED TO DO -- I DON'T REALLY NEED TO PULL THE ITEMS,
BUT I HAVE SOME MOTIONS I'D LIKE TO CONNECT TO ITEMS 30 AND
31 WHEN WE GET TO THEM.
I KNOW THAT YOU PREFER TO HAVE US MAKE THE MOTION IN
CONNECTION TO THE ITEM.
IF WE COULD NOT REALLY PULL THEM BUT SORT OF PULL THEM.
30 AND 31, JUST TO HAVE SEPARATE VOTES SO I CAN MAKE MY

MOTION.
9:17:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHEN THAT COMMITTEE, THE CONSENT ITEM
COMES UP UNDER YOUR COMMITTEE, JUST REMIND ME.
9:17:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW AHEAD OF TIME.
I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU PREFER THAT.
9:17:29AM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:17:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DID WE MOVE THAT FOR JANUARY 23rd.
ITEM 62, A MOTION TO PLACE THAT UNDER CEREMONIAL AT THE
JANUARY 23rd CITY COUNCIL.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO STORM UPDATE BY THE
ADMINISTRATION.
LET ME GIVE YOU THE GROUND RULES HERE.
PLEASE ALLOW HIM TO MAKE THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION BEFORE
ASKING ANY QUESTIONS.
CAN I GET APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 3?
MOTION FROM CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:18:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY, SORRY.
I ALSO WANT TO PULL 41 DURING THAT SAME TIME.

FOR ME, 39, 40, 41.
9:18:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST REMIND ME WHEN WE GET TO IT.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM?
MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN, ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE'LL HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION GIVE US A STORM UPDATE.
PLEASE ALLOW HIM TO COMPLETE THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION BEFORE
ASKING ANY QUESTIONS.
WHEN WE GET TO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ASK QUESTIONS, I'LL START
WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA BECAUSE HE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD
MEETING TUESDAY NIGHT.
THEN DOWN THE LINE WITH MIRANDA.
FIVE MINUTES EACH TO SPEAK.
FIRST ROUND, SECOND ROUND THREE MINUTES.
AND THEN WE'LL, OF COURSE, BEGIN THEN.
CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT, DO YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF?
YES, MR. SHELBY.
9:19:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT --
9:19:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PUBLIC COMMENT WILL TAKE PLACE RIGHT
AFTER THIS UPDATE.
WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
AFTER THE COUNCIL SPEAKS AND WE HAVE THE COMPLETE
PRESENTATION.
YES, SIR, CHIEF.
9:19:23AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR GIVING US THE TIME THIS
MORNING TO SHARE WITH YOU AND THE PUBLIC WHERE WE ARE IN
THIS SITUATION WITH THE AFTERMATH OF HURRICANE MILTON.
TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, I'VE BEEN SERVING THE CITY SINCE
1984.
IN 2004, WE HAD FOUR STORMS IN SIX WEEKS, ABOUT THE TIME IT
TAKES TO PRESENT THE BUDGET AND PASS THE BUDGET IN MID
AUGUST TO LATE SEPTEMBER, WE HAD FOUR STORMS.
THEY WERE CHARLEY, FRANCES, IVAN, AND JEANNE.
SO WE'VE HAD TWO STORMS IN TWO WEEKS.
OBVIOUSLY, THE FOUR PHASES OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT START
WITH MITIGATION, PREPAREDNESS, RESPONSE, AND RECOVERY.
WE ARE IN BETWEEN RESPONSE AND RECOVERY BECAUSE NOT
EVERYTHING IS SET TO BE IN RECOVERY STATE.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THEY HAVE
GIVEN THE ADMINISTRATION OVER THIS ADMINISTRATION TO DO A
LOT OF MITIGATION AND PREPAREDNESS WORK.
YOU'LL HEAR FROM OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM EXACTLY WHAT
THAT ENTAILED.
BUT EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF FROM APPROVING PIPES TO
DOING STORMWATER WORK, ALL THESE THINGS CREATED MITIGATION
EFFORTS IN OUR PREPAREDNESS TO HELP THE CITY STAND RESILIENT
AGAINST THESE TWO STORMS.

I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE I BELIEVE CHIEF TRIPP MIGHT BE
VIRTUAL.
SHE WILL COME ON AND INTRODUCE HER STAFF.
AS THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED, WE'LL HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION
TO GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS.
WE'LL TRY AND STAY FORWARD-FACING.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR AFTER-ACTION WORK.
BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT CAN WE
DO FOR YOU NOW AND WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO NOW.
OF COURSE, COUNCIL CAN SUPPLY FEEDBACK AND WE HAVE ALL OUR
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND PORTFOLIOS HERE TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS BEFORE THE PRESENTATION.
9:21:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION?
9:21:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
I LAID IT OUT SO CLEARLY AND THE MAN IS SPEAKING.
9:21:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS NOT A FIVE-MINUTE UPDATE.
THIS WILL BE LIKE AN HOUR.
US SPEAKING WILL BE AN HOUR.
I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT TWO HOURS.
I THINK THEY SHOULD SPEAK AFTER THE STAFF.
9:21:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M ONLY GOING TO SPEAK 30 SECONDS SO
THAT SHAVES IT OFF.
9:21:33AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
I THINK CHIEF TRIPP IS VIRTUAL, CHAIR.
9:21:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
9:21:38AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:21:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
9:21:42AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
FIRST OF ALL, GOOD MORNING.
BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AS WELL AS
EMERGENCY MANAGER.
AS CHIEF BENNETT HAS STATED, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF WEEKS HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN CHALLENGING FOR OUR
COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
MY HISTORY I'VE NEVER SEEN TWO BACK-TO-BACK MAJOR STORMS HIT
TAMPA.
YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS BEEN PREPARING PRE- AND
DURING THE INCIDENT AS WELL AS POST TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY
AND COMMUNITY GET BACK TO A LEVEL OF NORMALCY.
WITH THAT SAID, I'LL INTRODUCE JOHN ANTAPASIS, EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.
HE'LL PRESENT A DETAILED REPORT AND OVERVIEW OF WHAT TOOK
PLACE AND ALL THE PARTNERS INVOLVED THROUGHOUT AND CONTINUE
TO PROCEED FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AFTERWARDS, I'LL SPEAK AGAIN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS
THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH SUPPLYING INFORMATION TO
THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY NEED ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN ANTAPASIS, CHIEF OF OPERATIONS.
9:22:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:22:46AM >>JOHN ANTAPASIS:
JOHN ANTAPASIS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING CITY COUNCIL, ADMINISTRATION AND

THE PUBLIC.
I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE WITH YOU AN UPDATE FROM HURRICANE
MILTON AS WELL AS HURRICANE HELENE AND WHERE WE ARE, WHAT
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH AND WHAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO WITH THE
COMMUNITY.
BEFORE I BEGIN, I JUST HAVE TO THANK ALL THE PUBLIC FOR
BEING PREPARED FOR THIS STORM.
OUR CITY STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY FOR THE
LAST FOUR WEEKS FOR BOTH STORMS AS WELL AS ALL THE MUTUAL
AID PARTNERS THAT CAME IN THROUGHOUT THE STORM, THROUGHOUT
THE STATE OF FLORIDA, UP THROUGH KENTUCKY, ALABAMA.
WE HAD TEAMS THROUGHOUT OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SUPPORTING
US IN THIS HISTORIC STORM THAT CAME THROUGH BACK TO BACK FOR
US TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND, SAVE LIVES, AND PROTECT PROPERTY.
JUST REAL QUICK ON THE OVERVIEW, SIMILAR TO PAST STORMS, I
WANT TO PROVIDE THE SITUATION REPORT AND UPDATE OF WHAT WE
DID PRIOR TO THE STORM, DURING THE RESPONSE AND WHAT WE'RE
CONTINUING TO DO TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC IN THIS
TIME OF NEED.
WE WILL GO THROUGH A TIMELINE OF EVENTS.
OUR PROTECTIVE ACTIONS THAT WE TOOK BEFORE THE STORM, OUR
INITIAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE, OUR PRELIMINARY DAMAGE
ASSESSMENTS, OUR ONGOING RECOVERY, RELIEF EFFORTS THAT ARE
CURRENTLY OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE STATE OF OUR
COMMUNITY LIFE LINES, WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

AND OBVIOUSLY OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
GOING BACK TO SEPTEMBER 26 AND TO THE NIGHT OF SEPTEMBER 27,
WE HAD THE LANDFALLING IMPACTS FROM HURRICANE HELENE.
THAT WAS UNPRECEDENTED STORM SURGE THAT WE HAD IN OUR
COMMUNITY DURING THAT TIME, AND I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU AFTER
THAT STORM AT CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE THAT UPDATE.
BUT THEN SEVEN DAYS LATER, THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
AROUND OCTOBER 4 WE STARTED GETTING ALERTS FROM DOWN IN
MIAMI AND OUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OF A TROPICAL
SYSTEM THAT WAS MAKING ITS WAY INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO.
SLOWLY AS THOSE DAYS WENT ON AND I KNOW YOU GUYS WERE
INCLUDED IN OUR WEATHER BRIEFINGS AND SITUATION REPORTS, WE
CONTINUED TO MONITOR THAT SYSTEM AS UPDATES WERE OCCURRING.
ULTIMATELY THROUGHOUT THAT WEEK, IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THE
WEST COAST OF FLORIDA WAS GOING TO RECEIVE IMPACTS FROM A
MAJOR HURRICANE ON A VERY UNIQUE TRACK AS IT WENT EASTWARD
TOWARDS THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN THE GULF OF MEXICO.
JUST ON THE TIMELINE, IT GOT UP ON OCTOBER 7 TO A CATEGORY 5
HURRICANE, MAJOR HURRICANE IN THE GULF OF MEXICO AS IT WAS
MAKING ITS PATH TOWARDS THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA.
WITH ALL THESE STORMS, THEY HAVE A NATURE OF THEIR OWN, YET
OUR METEOROLOGISTS HAVE THOSE CONE OF UNCERTAINTY OF WHERE
THAT ULTIMATE TRACK WILL LAND.
BUT MANY MOMENTS THROUGHOUT THOSE DAYS THAT CITY OF TAMPA,
TAMPA BAY WAS RIGHT IN THE LINE OF GETTING A DIRECT IMPACT

FROM A MAJOR CATEGORY 5-4 STORM INTO THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HISTORIC.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD TO TAKE ALL MEASURES APPROPRIATE FOR THAT
SITUATION OCCURRING.
ULTIMATELY, OCTOBER 9 AND 10, THERE WAS A LANDFALL MADE
SOUTH OF US NEAR SIESTA KEY IN SARASOTA COUNTY, BUT
ULTIMATELY WE DID RECEIVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO THE CITY OF
TAMPA FROM THIS INCIDENT.
ON OCTOBER 10 AT DAYBREAK, OUR TEAMS INITIALLY WENT OUT AND
WE STARTED DOING OUR INITIAL FIRST PUSH AND RESPONSE AT
DAYBREAK THAT MORNING IN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER
WITH CITY LEADERSHIP AND ALL OUR PERSONNEL.
WE WERE AWAKE WELL INTO THE NIGHT, GOING INTO THE MORNING
AND AT DAYBREAK, WE ACTUALLY HAD FOOTAGE RIGHT OUT ON SCENE
GOING THROUGH OUR PUSH TEAMS, OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTER
PUSH TEAMS TO GET THAT VISUAL AT DAYBREAK.
BEFORE THE STORM, ULTIMATELY WE HAVE OUR HURRICANE PLANS
THAT WE PUT IN MOTION, AND BECAUSE OF HELENE JUST LITERALLY
SEVEN DAYS BEFORE, WE WERE ABLE TO PULL RIGHT BACK THAT
PLAYBOOK OUT, BUT IT DID NEED TO BE MODIFIED AS A
CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE WAS EXPECTED TO OUR AREA.
WE WERE PROVIDING MULTIPLE BRIEFINGS AS YOU GUYS WERE
INCLUDED ON THOSE DISTRIBUTION LISTS.
WE GO INTO OUR DEPARTMENT PROTECTIVE ACTIONS.
OUR KNOW YOUR ROLE GETS ACTIVATED AGAIN.

TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTIVATE THEIR
HURRICANE OPERATION PLANS.
WE ACTIVATED SANDBAG DISTRIBUTION SITES AS WELL.
TPD DID DOOR-TO-DOOR ANNOUNCEMENTS, EVACUATIONS.
ONCE THAT EVACUATION ORDER WAS MADE BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
AND WE ALSO INCLUDED HOW -- OTHER UNIQUE CHALLENGES.
DEMOBILIZE OUR COMFORT STATIONS WE HAD AT DE SOTO PARK,
MARJORIE PARK.
A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN PLACE BECAUSE WE WERE STILL IN THAT
RESPONSE RELIEF MODE FROM HELENE BUT HAD TO GET BACK INTO
MODE FOR MILTON IMPACTS THAT WERE COMING OUR WAY.
ALSO, ANOTHER JUST MAMMOTH TASK WAS ALL THE DEBRIS, CLEANUP
PRE-STORM.
THE BIG MISSION PRE-STORM WAS TO GET AS MUCH OF THE DEBRIS
FROM HELENE UP AS POSSIBLE BEFORE MILTON MADE LANDFALL.
LARRY WASHINGTON AND HIS TEAM, THEY REALLY PUSHED ROCKS TO
GET AS MUCH UP AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE IMPACTS FROM MILTON.
BIG OBJECTIVE PRE-STORM AND A LOT OF MOVEMENT WAS MADE
THERE.
AND THEN SOME STATISTICS UP ON THE BOARD AS WELL OF JUST HOW
MUCH WORK WAS ACTUALLY GETTING DONE PRE-STORM.
ADDITIONALLY, PRE-STORM, WE HAVE TO MOBILIZE EMERGENCY
STAFFING AND EQUIPMENT BETWEEN OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE
AGENCY, TAMPA POLICE, TAMPA FIRE, AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC

WORKS TEAMS AS WELL AS ALL THE KNOW YOUR ROLE POSITIONS,
INCLUDING SHELTERING OPERATIONS, AS WELL AS EMERGENCY
OPERATION CENTER.
THERE WERE ALSO LARGE EFFORTS TO PROTECT CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOME LESSONS LEARNED WE HAD FROM HELENE
AND ALL THAT STORM SURGE, WE HAD FRESH IN OUR MIND FROM THE
WEEK BEFORE OF WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK TO PROTECT.
AND ON THIS PHOTO IS THE PUMP STATION FOR WASTEWATER.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO DEPLOY A
TIGER DAM PRE-STORM TO PROTECT THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE
BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS IF THAT DID GO DOWN DURING MILTON AND
WHAT THAT WOULD CAUSE WITH WASTEWATER BACKFLOWS.
THAT PROTECTION WAS ADDED AS WELL.
THERE WAS AN EVACUATION LEVEL CALLED BY THE COUNTY FOR A
LEVEL A AND B ORDER.
THAT ALSO INCLUDED ACTIVATIONS OF GENERAL POPULATION AND
SPECIAL NEED SHELTERS.
TO NOTE OF THAT, OUR MIDDLETON SHELTER IS ONE OF THE LARGEST
IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
WE HAD ABOUT 1800 RESIDENTS THAT WERE IN THAT BUILDING
THROUGHOUT THE STORM.
AND CITY RESIDENTS STAFFED THAT TIRELESSLY.
THE FIRST TO ACTIVATE SUNDAY AND GOING THROUGH FOUR NIGHTS
THAT SHELTER WAS ACTIVATED.
OUR CITY STAFF WERE THERE EVERY DAY TO ENSURE THOSE

RESIDENTS WERE SAFE.
EMERGENCY FUELING PLAN.
WE ACTIVATED THAT AS WELL PRE-STORM.
EMERGENCY FEEDING.
WE HAD THE CITIZEN INFORMATION CENTER ACTIVATED TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL COOP
PLANNING.
ONCE WE GET TO A MAJOR HURRICANE STATUS, IT MEANS CONTINUITY
OF OPERATIONS, WE HAVE TO TAKE IN ASPECTS OF WE'RE LOOKING
AT A MAJOR HURRICANE IMPACT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AS A
COASTAL COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO PUT IN STRATEGIES TO ENSURE
THAT WE CAN HAVE CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS FOR OUR
DEPARTMENTS, FOR OUR GOVERNMENT.
THAT WAS ALSO IMPLEMENTED AS WELL.
OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, OTHER STATE ASSETS WERE COMING IN.
WE WERE CALLING IN STATE ASSETS PRE-STORM BETWEEN
GENERATORS, AGAIN, THE TIGER DAMS, STRIKE TEAMS COMING IN TO
ASSIST FIRE RESCUE, POLICE, AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC WORKS
TEAMS.
WE PUT THAT ALL IN THE QUEUE PRE-STORM.
AS I STATED AT DAYBREAK, AFTER HURRICANE MILTON MADE
LANDFALL NEAR SIESTA KEY, OUR PUSH TEAMS WERE OUT AT 6 A.M.
THAT MORNING.
THEY GET FOOD.
THEY GO RIGHT OUT AND THEY START DOING THEIR INITIAL PUSH TO

AGAIN CLEAR THAT DEBRIS OFF OUR CRITICAL ROADWAYS AND AS
WELL AS DO OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE CHECKS THROUGHOUT THE
CITY.
WE HAD OUR EMERGENCY DRONE TEAM DEPLOYMENT, SO WE WERE
GETTING LIVE VISUALS THAT MORNING AT THE EOC TO SEE
LITERALLY DOWN STREETS AND EVEN SOME VERY INNOVATIVE STUFF
WITH WEB CAMS TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WAS OUT IN THE FIELD AT
DAYBREAK, HONESTLY SUCH AN INNOVATIVE THING THAT THE CITY OF
TAMPA DID DURING THIS ONE.
I CAN'T SAY ANOTHER CITY HAS DONE THAT.
THEN THE HIGH-WATER RESCUES IN FLOODED AREAS BEGAN.
THOSE RESPONSES OCCURRED AS WELL AS TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT,
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO GET INTO THOSE FLOODED AREAS THAT
OCCURRED POST STORM.
I KNOW EVEN COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAD SOME WITH NONPROFITS
DOING RESCUES.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET A BUS OUT THERE TO GET THOSE RESIDENTS
PICKED UP TO A SAFE LOCATION.
WE ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH TECO IN OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS
CENTER.
AS THOSE TEAMS GO THROUGH AND WE FOUND DOWNED POWER LINES,
WE'RE TRACKING THOSE LIVE FOR TECO TO GET OUT THERE AND GET
THAT RESTORATION PROCESS GOING.
ANOTHER BIG THING, OBVIOUSLY, WITH LARGE POWER OUTAGES
THROUGHOUT THE CITY, OUR GENERATOR DEPLOYMENT NEEDED TO TAKE

PLACE, SO WE HAD GENERATORS AT MANY OF OUR CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT ALSO
ANOTHER CHALLENGE WAS THE FUEL.
SO AS FUEL SHORTAGES BEGAN, WE HAD TO CONTINUE TO DO MILK
RUNS, WHAT THEY ARE CALLED, TO REFILL THOSE GENERATORS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA TO ENSURE OPERATIONS.
AGAIN, A LARGE MAMMOTH RESPONSE THERE.
AGAIN, PRELIMINARY DAMAGE ASSESSMENT, THAT IS A PROCESS WE
HAVE IN OUR EMERGENCY PLANS.
AGAIN, THAT'S TO ASSESS WHAT OCCURRED DURING THE INCIDENT
THAT WE HAVE TO REPORT UP TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
THESE NUMBERS ARE ONGOING, AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO
INCREASE IN OUR EXPECTATION.
BUT TO LAY THEM OUT, 778 AFFECTED, 787 MINOR.
311 MAJOR.
AND 24 DESTROYED HOMES.
THAT'S FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
WE'RE APPROXIMATING ABOUT 237 MILLION CURRENTLY, BUT WE DO
EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO GO UP ON OUR FINAL DAMAGE ASSESSMENT
FROM MILTON.
ALSO, TO KIND OF PAINT THE PICTURE, AS HISTORIC TWO MAJOR
STORM IMPACTS FOR TAMPA, IT REALLY IS A TALE TWO OF STORIES
FROM HELENE AND MILTON.
HELENE WAS THAT HISTORIC STORM SURGE THAT WE RECEIVED IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA.

SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES RECEIVED THOSE IMPACTS.
DAVIS ISLANDS, DE SOTO PARK, SOUTH OF GANDY, WESTSHORE, AND
IT WAS HISTORIC.
A LOT OF DAMAGES, OVER 500 MILLION EXPECTED ON THAT STORM.
WITH HURRICANE MILTON, IT'S BEEN WIDESPREAD.
WE DIDN'T SEE THAT SURGE THAT WE SAW FOR HELENE, BUT WE DID
SEE WIDESPREAD WIND DAMAGE, AND WE ALSO HAD THAT FLOODING
OCCUR AS WELL IN CERTAIN AREAS INLAND.
TWO DIFFERENT STORMS.
BUT WE DO USE A SOFTWARE CALLED CRISIS TRACK.
THAT ALLOWS US TO TRACK THE HOMES AND WE USE PROPERTY
APPRAISER DATA TO GET THOSE ESTIMATES.
AGAIN, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THOSE NUMBERS TO GO UP AS WELL.
ONGOING RECOVERY, AS CHIEF BENNETT SAID, WE ARE STILL IN
THAT BETWEEN OF RESPONSE AND RECOVERY MODE.
WE STILL HAVE EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTER PUSH TEAMS OUT THERE
IN THE FIELD TODAY.
THEY ARE CLEARING TREES ON ROADS AND NEIGHBORHOODS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE HAVE THOSE WORK ORDERS CONTINUING ON TODAY.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PULL IN A STATE FORESTRY TEAM
TO ASSIST US AS WELL, WHICH HAS BEEN A HUGE CAPACITY FOR THE
CITY TO REALLY GET AHEAD OF EVERYTHING.
A BEST PRACTICE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE TEAM HERE,
BECAUSE WE IDENTIFIED SO MUCH IN THE FIELD FROM THAT FIRST

PUSH, THOSE TEAMS WERE ABLE TO GET WORK ORDERS RIGHT AWAY TO
START WORK.
WE'LL HAVE THE FORESTRY TEAM AGAIN THROUGHOUT TODAY.
ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, THE FUEL SHORTAGE MITIGATING TODAY BUT BEEN
VERY DYNAMIC THE LAST FEW DAYS SO WE CONTINUE THAT RESPONSE
AS WELL.
THE MAJOR DEBRIS CLEANUP IS ONGOING.
WE'LL TAKE MANY MORE DAYS TO FULLY BE CLEANED UP.
THAT'S ONGOING AS WELL.
JUST TO KIND OF PAINT THE PICTURE BETWEEN THE TWO STORMS
FROM THE DEBRIS MANAGEMENT SIDE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A
SIGNIFICANT DEBRIS OPERATION FOR HELENE.
OBVIOUSLY IN THOSE LOCALIZED SURGE AREAS, BUT NOW WITH
MILTON, IT IS CONTINUING TO BE AN ALL HANDS ON DECK BETWEEN
THE CONTRACTORS, SOLID WASTE TEAM, AND REALLY EVERYONE THAT
IS PART OF THE TEAM THAT WILL BE PICKING UP THE DEBRIS FROM
BOTH THE STORMS.
IT IS A COMPLICATED EFFORT OF HOW WE SORT AND GET THESE TO
THE DEBRIS SITES AND HOW THAT IS MANAGED AND MONITORED, BUT
THAT IS GOING TO BE ONGOING.
JUST TO SHOW SOME OF THE STATS, WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO GET
THAT PUSH AS GETTING MUCH DEBRIS PRE-MILTON TO BE IN A GOOD
STATE OF AFFAIRS THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE AND WORKING THROUGH
FOR MANY, MANY DAYS.
ON THE RELIEF EFFORTS OPERATIONS, VERY QUICKLY, WE WERE ABLE

TO WORK WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO
SET UP THESE POINTS OF DISTRIBUTION SITES AT AL LOPEZ AND
THE GANDY BOAT RAMP.
THOSE ARE THE LARGER OPERATIONS OF DRIVE-THROUGH TO PICK UP
MEALS, WATER, TARPS AND OTHER COMMODITIES.
HIGH DEMAND AT THESE SITES THAT HAS BEEN TAPERING OFF.
THE INITIAL AFTER LANDFALL, THE SITES WERE VERY BUSY.
IN ADDITION TO GET INTO HARDER HIT AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN THE
FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD AND UP IN NORTH TAMPA, WE SUPPLIED
THESE NEIGHBORHOOD POP-UP SUPPLIES.
SO INDIVIDUALS COULD WALK UP, GET THE SUPPLIES AND HAVE
THOSE CLOSER TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET THOSE LIFESAVING
COMMODITIES OUT THERE.
IN ADDITION, THE MASS FEEDING OPERATIONS AND DONATIONS THAT
ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY I'M SURE ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT
AND ABOUT AND SEE THE PLETHORA OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT
COME FROM OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS.
SHOUT-OUT TO SALVATION ARMY, AMERICAN RED CROSS, WORLD
KITCHEN AND SO MANY OTHERS THAT ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY
ARE SETTING UP THEIR OWN FEEDING OPERATIONS AND THEY
COORDINATE WITH US AT THE CITY OF WHERE THE NEED IS, AND
THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT GREAT RELIEF OUT THERE TO THE
RESIDENTS AS WELL.
ALSO AT BARKSDALE, WE DID HAVE STARTING TWO DAYS AGO, BUT
YESTERDAY WAS THE FULL DAY, FEMA DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE STATE RESOURCES THERE AS WELL AS THE
CITY RESOURCES TO BE ON-SITE FOR RESIDENTS TO COME IN, GET
MORE INFORMATION, GET UPDATES ON THEIR APPLICATION FROM FEMA
DIRECTLY.
IT IS A GREAT RESOURCE.
WE ARE THE ONLY ONE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WITH THAT
RESOURCE RIGHT NOW.
A FULL FEMA DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER.
THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS IN ST. PETERSBURG.
ONE THING WE ARE JUST COMING THROUGH THIS CHALLENGE IS FEMA
IS STRETCHED.
THEY ARE HAVING RESOURCES ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH NORTH
CAROLINA FROM HELENE AND THE STAFFING OUT THERE IS LIMITED.
I WAS THERE ALL MORNING YESTERDAY AND THERE WAS A POINT IN
TIME WHERE FEMA HAD TO DO A CUTOFF AROUND 11:00, THAT THEY
COULDN'T TAKE IN ANY MORE.
WE HAD A HUNDRED RESIDENTS OUTSIDE.
WE SPOKE WITH THEM ABOUT AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET LUNCH OUT THERE FOR THE RESIDENTS BUT
THEY ARE STRETCHED THIN WITH STAFFING AND WE'RE CONTINUING
TO PUSH WITH FEMA HEADQUARTERS.
IF WE CAN GET MORE STAFFING AT THE SITE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO
PROCESS MORE PEOPLE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
CURRENTLY, JUST THE STATE OF COMMUNITY LIFELINES, I WANTED
TO HIGHLIGHT, OBVIOUSLY HUGE IMPROVEMENT THIS MORNING.

TECO GAVE US THE UPDATE THIS MORNING.
ABOUT 8,000 CUSTOMERS STILL WITHOUT POWER BUT THEY ARE ABOUT
99% BACK ON POWER THROUGHOUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
THAT, AGAIN, FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS HAD BEEN ONE OF OUR
BIGGEST ISSUES BETWEEN FUEL AND ELECTRICAL POWER BEING OUT
AND ALL THE CASCADING IMPACTS THAT OCCUR WHEN THAT IS
HAPPENING.
WE ARE SEEING LIGHT AT THE TUNNEL LITERALLY IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA THIS MORNING.
THE PORT IS FULLY OPERATIONAL.
COMMERCIAL FUEL IS OPERATIONAL.
MAJORITY OF ALL OUR CITY FIXED ASSETS AND CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE IS BACK ON ELECTRICAL POWER AND MAJORITY OF
ALL SUPERMARKETS ARE BACK OPEN AS WELL.
JUST FINALLY, WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE.
AGAIN, OUR TEAM, THE CITY TEAM, CITY LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN
HERE WITH OUR RESIDENTS FOR THESE PAST FOUR WEEKS.
WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
WE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CITIZEN INFORMATION CENTER OPEN.
833-TPA-INFO.
MANY RESIDENTS HAVE CALLED THE NUMBER, REPORTED DAMAGES,
ISSUES, BUT ALSO WANT MORE INFORMATION OF ALL THE DIFFERENT
RESOURCES OUT THERE.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT RUNNING THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS

WELL AS OUR WEBSITE, TAMPA.GOV/HURRICANE.
WE UPDATE THAT FREQUENTLY AND VERY ROBUST ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
I KNOW MANY PEOPLE FOLLOW INFORMATION, Facebook, TWITTER.
WE PROVIDE AS RESOURCES COME AVAILABLE ON ALL THE METHODS TO
TRY TO GET OUT THE INFORMATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
9:39:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION, CHIEF
BENNETT?
9:39:13AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
YES.
9:39:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:39:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:39:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHIEF TRIPP, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE
TO ADD?
9:39:22AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
NO.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY -- AS JOHN SPOKE, WE HAVE MEMBERS HERE
THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST ANYONE IN THE CHAMBER WITH SOME
FLYERS TO GIVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CONCERNING DISASTER
RELIEF.
9:39:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU HAVE FOLKS SITTING OUTSIDE?
IF ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS NEEDS ANY DIRECT ASSISTANCE, WE
HAVE PEOPLE OUTSIDE AS WELL.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I'LL START WITH YOU AND GO WITH
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND DOWN THE LINE.
9:39:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
MILTON AND HELENE HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN A GIANT TRAGEDY FOR
OUR COMMUNITY ON SO MANY LEVELS AND OUR STAFF, WE CONTINUE

TO BE VERY, VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL THE STAFF, TO SAY YOU ARE
WORKING OVERTIME, THAT IS QUITE THE UNDERSTATEMENT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO DID MENTION WE DID A COMMUNITY MEETING
OUT AT FOREST HILLS.
SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE AT THE CHURCH BUT THEY UNFORTUNATELY
LOST POWER, SO WE'RE MOVING IT TO NEXT WEEK.
OBVIOUSLY, FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF
EMOTION OUT THERE.
I WOULD BE EMOTIONAL, TOO, IF I WAS NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE AND
GOT FLOODED.
I WOULD BE VERY, VERY EMOTIONAL AND WOULD WANT ANSWERS.
I DON'T JUDGE ANYBODY.
IN FACT, IT WAS VERY, VERY MUCH ANTICIPATED BECAUSE I THINK
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NORMAL.
IN MILTON, WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITIES.
ROBLES PARK.
ALSO A LOT OF NORTH TAMPA COMMUNITIES THAT WERE NOT IN FLOOD
ZONES THAT WERE AFFECTED.
FOREST HILLS, UNIVERSITY AREA, OVERLOOK, FRIENDS AT
TIMBERFALLS OFF 113th STREET.
I REPRESENT THESE COMMUNITIES.
VIRTUALLY ALL OF WHICH ARE NON-FLOOD ZONES, ZONE X.
THESE COMMUNITIES FLOODED WITH DEVASTATING RESULTS TO THE
COMMUNITIES.
WE THINK ABOUT A GROUP LIKE TIMBERFALLS OFF 113th STREET,

SOMETHING WE DEALT A LOT WITH ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLOODED, GONE.
PEOPLE WHO ARE SENIOR CITIZENS.
PEOPLE ON DISABILITIES.
PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOMES.
PEOPLE WORKING SERVICE SECTOR JOBS LOST EVERYTHING.
THEY DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT.
THEY ARE NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE.
FOREST HILLS, UNIVERSITY AREA, HOME TO MANY, MANY LOWER
INCOME, HARDWORKING FAMILIES, GONE.
THERE'S A LOT OF ANGER OUT THERE.
A LOT OF FRUSTRATION OUT THERE.
A LOT OF EMOTION OUT THERE.
I FEEL IT WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE.
AND PEOPLE HAVE REASONABLE QUESTIONS THAT THEY ARE MAKING
THAT I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, QUESTIONS THAT I THINK
THAT IF I DIDN'T ASK AND PROPOSE THE THINGS THAT I'M
PROPOSING, THAT I WOULD BE THE WORST ELECTED OFFICIAL ON
EARTH FOR MY CONSTITUENTS.
I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO ACT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING
TRANSPARENCY.
I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.
I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT AND MAKING SURE WE'RE
HERE, CONTINUE TO BE HERE, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE.
THE CITY HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN TERMS OF BEING THERE

FOR PEOPLE, FEEDING SITES, COMFORT STATIONS.
PEOPLE WORKING OVERTIME.
CITY COUNCIL, I BELIEVE AND I HOPE THE COUNTY COMMISSION
NEEDS TO APPROPRIATE AS I'LL TALK ABOUT SUPPLEMENT DOLLARS
FOR PEOPLE.
THINGS LIKE HOUSING, FILLING IN THE GAP ON ANY SORTS OF
NEEDS.
FOOD, INSURANCE, ET CETERA.
IT WASN'T JUST A STORM OF THE CENTURY.
IT IS THE CRISIS OF A CENTURY FOR PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD
A CRISIS.
TWO DAYS AGO I TALKED TO A CUBAN AMERICAN FAMILY,
89-YEAR-OLD WOMAN, BOUGHT A HOUSE NEXT TO HER TWO DAUGHTERS.
ONE WORKED AT A FLEA MARKET AND ANOTHER SEWING CLOTHES.
THE AMERICAN DREAM GONE.
GUY WHO MOWED LAWNS IN FOREST HILLS, MEXICAN AMERICAN, BUYS
A HOUSE, GONE.
NO FLOOD INSURANCE.
ANOTHER WOMAN WORKING AT WALMART CASHIER, GONE, NO FLOOD
INSURANCE.
ANOTHER WOMAN AUTISTIC SON, AUTISTIC GRANDSON LIVES WITH
HER, GONE.
NO FLOOD INSURANCE.
THOSE PEOPLE DESERVE ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS TO BE POSED.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT AND IT'S BEEN OUT IN THE MEDIA AND I

TALKED ABOUT IT, FORMAL INQUIRY, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON
WHAT I'M PROPOSING AND WHAT I'M NOT.
I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS.
I HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP AS TAMPA CITY COUNCILMAN.
CONTINUE TO DO SO.
IN LIGHT OF THIS UNCOMPENSATED LOSS AND COMMUNITIES WITH NO
FLOOD INSURANCE, COMMUNITIES THAT DID NOT SEE THIS COMING
AND QUESTIONS RAISED INCLUDING STATEMENTS IN THE MEDIA ABOUT
BACKUP GENERATORS, ET CETERA, THAT A FORMAL INQUIRY OF SOME
SORT SHOULD HAPPEN.
I DO THAT NOT TO POINT FISSION AT THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THE
STATE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHOEVER.
I DO THAT BECAUSE GIVEN THE LOSS, THAT IS WHAT A GOOD AND
HONEST GOVERNMENT DOES IS SET IT ASIDE AND LET FOLKS WHO ARE
NOT INVOLVED IN SUCH A TRAGEDY HAVE AN OBJECTIVE LOOK.
THAT'S ALL I WANT TO DO.
I KNOW TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HAS INVESTIGATORY POWERS.
OUR FRIENDS IN EAST COUNTY, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE A CITY
AND COUNTY JOINT EFFORT TO LOOK AT ALL OF US BECAUSE WE ARE
INTERTWINED ON SO MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES AS A COUNTY.
WANT IT TO BE DONE BY EXPERTS, NOT POLITICIANS, BY PEOPLE
WHO KNOW.
I HAVE AN UNCLE -- MAY I HAVE TWO MORE MINUTES, SIR?
9:44:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
9:44:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.

I HAVE AN UNCLE WHO IS A CHEMICAL ENGINEER WHO SERVED ON THE
LEVEE COMMISSION AFTER KATRINA.
KIND OF FUNNY LIKE THAT.
I'LL TALK MORE AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT IN TERMS OF WHAT I WANT
FROM THE INQUIRY, INVESTIGATION.
IT'S NOT TO POINT FINGERS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
ALL I KNOW IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED A LOT WHO
ARE ASKING REASONABLE QUESTIONS, NOT THEORIES, CONSPIRACY
THEORIES, REASONABLE QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE 15 PUMPING STATIONS.
THREE HAD BACKUP GENERATORS.
ACCORDING TO INFORMATION I HAVE, THREE PUMPS IN FOREST
HILLS.
ONE HAD A BACKUP GENERATOR.
IF WE HAD THEM THERE, WOULD THINGS HAVE BEEN BETTER?
SOMETHING WAS SAID IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES THAT LED ME TO
BELIEVE THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.
THIS IS A VERY HISTORIC STORM.
ONE IN 300 YEAR STORM.
NOBODY CAN TEST THAT.
I DON'T WANT AN INVESTIGATION ON HOW TO PREVENT STORMS OR
HURRICANES.
BUT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN THE CITY
OF TAMPA AND IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN DEALING WITH THESE

ISSUES, TO TAKE A LOOK AT INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT WENT RIGHT.
WHAT WENT WRONG AND HOW WE CAN DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE SO
PEOPLE WHO WERE AFFECTED HAVE ANSWERS.
I THINK THE AFFECTED FAMILIES, TOO, NEED HELP FOR THESE
HURRICANES.
WE SHOULD APPROPRIATE MONEY, SIGNIFICANT ROBUST MONEY FOR
THAT.
AND WE ALSO OUGHT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEVASTATING EFFECT THIS
WILL HAVE ON NORTH TAMPA.
ONE OF THE FEW PLACES IN TAMPA FOR WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES OF FAMILIES WHO HAVE LIVED THERE
FOR GENERATIONS BEING PRICED OUT OF THEIR HOMES, PRICED OUT
OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.
WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE EFFECTS.
I COULD TALK ABOUT IT FOREVER, BUT I'LL BE QUIET.
ALL I'M SAYING IS GIVEN THE DEVASTATION, GIVEN THE FAMILIES
HAVEN'T BEEN COMPENSATED FOR LOSSES, REASONABLE QUESTIONS,
THERE NEEDS TO BE AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION HAD ON THIS
ISSUE.
NOT BECAUSE I'M POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY, BUT GIVEN THE
REASONABLE QUESTIONS.
IT MAY VERY WELL HAPPEN.
IT COULD HAPPEN VERY EASILY THAT WE HAVE, NOTHING COULD HAVE
PREVENTED OR HAD WE HAD SOMETHING OUT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN

A VERY MINIMAL DIFFERENCE.
LET'S HAVE THE PROCESS GO FORWARD SO THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE LOST EVERYTHING -- EVERYTHING CAN HAVE THE ANSWERS THAT
THEY NEED.
WE OWE THEM THAT AT THE VERY LEAST.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:46:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:46:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MR. VIERA JUST SPOKE
ABOUT.
THIS IS THE NEW NORM.
NOWHERE HAS THE CITY OF TAMPA EVER ENCOUNTERED RAIN A WEEK
OR SO BEFORE A HURRICANE, RAIN IN BETWEEN THE HURRICANES AND
THEN ANOTHER HURRICANE.
AND WE'RE LUCKY IN A WAY THAT IT DIDN'T COME FIVE, TEN, 15
MILES NORTH.
MORE THAN LIKELY NONE OF US WOULD BE HERE TALKING TO EACH
OTHER TODAY.
WHAT HAPPENED IS A SIGNAL OF WHAT'S COMING.
AND WHAT'S COMING IS WE MUST CHANGE THE WAY WE LIVE.
WE MUST CHANGE THE WAY WE BUILD STRUCTURES.
WE MUST CHANGE WHY ROOFS COLLAPSE, WHY WALLS FALL IN,
BECAUSE THE EAVES PICK UP THE ROOF FROM THE HURRICANE WIND.
NOT THE WIND THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM.
IT IS THE FLOODING THAT DOES A LOT OF THE PROBLEM, MY
OPINION.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN NONE OF THIS.
WHEN I SEE THESE THINGS COMING AND COMING, SENDS A MESSAGE,
HERE WAS A HURRICANE HEADING WEST, TURNED AROUND AND CAME
EAST.
NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE.
ALL MY YEARS LIVING IN TAMPA, MAYBE TWO OR THREE SMALL
HURRICANES IN THE GULF.
NOW SIX OF THEM SO FAR.
AND MAJOR ONES.
IF YOU THINK TAMPA IS BAD, LOOK AT ASHEVILLE, NORTH
CAROLINA.
THE SAME HURRICANE, ONE OF THEM.
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO US IS THAT WE MUST CHANGE, A, THE WAY WE
LIVE, A, THE WAY WE BUILD STRUCTURES AND B, UNDERSTAND THAT
WE CANNOT CONTROL THE ENVIRONMENT AND KEEP ABUSING IT
BECAUSE THIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THINGS WE DO.
I'M NOT BLAMING GOVERNMENT.
EVERY HOUSE THAT ANYBODY OWNS ONLY KEEPS IT TO A MAXIMUM OR
MINIMUM OF WHATEVER THEY CAN IN THAT STANDARD.
SO THAT THEY CAN PREVENT SOMETHING HAPPENING TO THEIR HOME.
HOWEVER NONE ONE PREPARED FOR THIS ONE.
THIS IS A STANDARD, HOW DO WE BUILD HOUSES NOW?
GO TO THE ISLANDS IN THE SOUTH, THE CARIBBEAN, THEY DON'T
BUILD HOUSES LIKE WE DO.
WHEN A HURRICANE COMES THROUGH, YEAH, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE

OUT IN THE FARMS AND ALL THAT, WIPES THEM OUT.
DON'T SEE NO CONCRETE HOUSE GO OUT.
NO SHINGLES ON THE ROOF.
THEY ARE CONCRETE ROOFS WITH REBAR WIRE ALL THROUGH THEM.
THEY DON'T LOOK TOO GOOD ON THE OUTSIDE BUT INSIDE THE
HOUSES ARE BEAUTIFUL.
NO DRYWALL IN THOSE HOUSES.
ALL THE ELECTRICAL WORK IS DONE THROUGH PIPES AND SYSTEMS
THAT DON'T GET WET.
WE LIVE THE LIFE WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
IT WAS GREAT UNTIL JUST A FEW DAYS AGO WHEN NATURE SAID, I'M
CHANGING BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ABUSED.
I'M NOT BLAMING NATURE.
I'M BLAMING US.
THERE'S MORE PLASTIC IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN GREATER THAN THE
STATE OF TEXAS IN SIZE AND WE STILL USE PLASTIC BAGS.
EVERY DAY WE THROW THEM AWAY.
I'M NOT BLAMING THE CITY.
THE STANDARD THAT WAS THERE WAS THERE.
AND THEY WORKED TILL WHEN?
TILL JUST BEFORE THE HURRICANE.
ONE.
NOW WE HAVE THE SITUATION THAT'S CREATED.
I CAN'T STOP A HURRICANE FROM COMING HERE.
WE MUST CHANGE.

MUST WORK TOGETHER.
MUST HAVE A NEW REVIEW ON HOW WE BUILD THINGS AND HOW WE
MAKE THEM LAST FOREVER, NO SHINGLES CAN FLY OFF.
NO EAVES THAT CAN TEAR UP A HOUSE.
NO WALLS CAN COLLAPSE.
CONCRETE THROUGH THE FIRST FLOOR, BLOCKS.
WHAT DO YOU SEE ON THE SECOND FLOOR?
TELL ME?
WOOD.
WE'RE REAL SMART.
NOW YOU SEE A ROOF WITH EAVES THIS FAR OUT, THINK THE WIND
CAN'T PICK THAT UP?
WHAT HAPPENS?
WALLS COLLAPSE.
FLOODING INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.
GOT ZERO CHANCE OF WINNING.
WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WE CAN WORK WITH AND CHANGE.
BUT LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE 1800 AND 1900, YOU HAD A
HORSE AND YOU HAD A CAR.
$500, WHATEVER IT WAS.
NOW AIR-CONDITIONING COSTS YOU 4,000.
WE LIVE GREAT.
LIVE COOL.
WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE WANT, FORGOT ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
I'M NOT BLAMING ANY GOVERNMENT YET WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY, FOR NOT THINKING AHEAD.
WE GOT TO STOP THINKING ABOUT YESTERDAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO
THE FUTURE.
IF NOT, THERE IS NO FUTURE.
I'M NOT BEING A PREACHER.
I'M TELLING YOU WHAT I LEARNED IN MY LIFE.
IF WE CAN'T CHANGE, WE WILL NOT SURVIVE.
DON'T CARE WHAT COUNTRY, THE RESOURCES, EVERYTHING IS MONEY.
NO ONE TOLD YOU WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
HOW CAN YOU BUY ALL THESE THINGS IF YOU HAVE A BALANCED
BUDGET ALREADY?
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:52:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:52:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
AS A NEW MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS THE FIRST STORM
THAT I'VE HAD TO PARTICIPATE IN NOT JUST AS A CITIZEN, BUT
AS A PUBLIC SERVANT.
TODAY I AM JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE, AND THAT
MIGHT MAKE ME A LITTLE BIT EMOTIONAL, BUT SO BE IT.
I WATCHED THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY GO THROUGH
SOMETHING, AND IT'S NOT OF CONNECTED TO POLITICAL
AFFILIATION.
IT'S NOT EVEN CONNECTED TO YOUR WEALTH OR THE LACK THEREOF.
THIS STORM HAPPENED TO EVERYONE.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THE LORD BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN
WORSE.
I WATCHED OUR STAFF.
I WENT AND SPENT TIME WITH THEM.
I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO STOP BY A FEW MINUTES BUT ENDED UP
STAYING FOR SIX HOURS WHERE THEY LEAVE THEIR FAMILIES AND
SPEND THE NIGHT FROM EVERY DIVISION, WORKING TO SOLVE
PROBLEMS.
SOME BIGGER THAN OTHERS TO PUT THE CITY BACK TOGETHER.
AND THAT WAS REALLY INCREDIBLE TO ME TO WATCH THAT, SOMEONE
THAT PRESENTED TO US TODAY, JOHN.
HE TO MAKE SURE HIS FAMILY, YOU KNOW, WAS SAFE SO HE COULD
BUNKER DOWN AND CONCENTRATE ON TAKING CARE OF THE CITIZENS
OF TAMPA.
I APPRECIATE THINGS LIKE THAT.
NATURAL DISASTERS, NATURAL THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
BACK WHEN I WAS A KID IN 7th GRADE IT SNOWED.
WE WENT TO SCHOOL AND IT WAS GREAT.
WE GATHERED UP AS MUCH SNOW AS WE COULD.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE KIND OF PROBLEMS, BUT THE CLIMATE HAS
CHANGED AND WE HAVE PROBLEMS.
INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL SAY REGARDING PROGRAM PLANNING
IS ONCE THINGS HAPPEN, YOU ACTUALLY FIND OUT, HEY, THIS IS A
PROBLEM THAT WE NOW NEED TO ADDRESS.

THOSE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, PROGRAM PLANNING.
CAN THINGS BE DONE BETTER?
ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY.
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THE PROBLEM ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE.
IF FLOODED OVER IN FOREST HILLS, SOMEONE WAS COMPLAINING
ABOUT IT FLOODED OVER IN ROBLES.
WELL, IT FLOODED OVER IN FOREST HILLS, TOO, YOU KNOW.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PUMPING THAT PARTICULAR AREA JUST TO GET
THE WATER OUT.
THE PROBLEM MAY BE A LITTLE BIGGER THAN THAT AND WE DIDN'T
KNOW IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM UNTIL IT PRESENTED ITSELF.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT DO NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION AND OUR VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED
STAFF WHO WORK IN THOSE AREAS THAT CAN MAKE THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS ALONG WITH MAYBE EVEN PROFESSIONAL
CONSULTANTS SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW BEST TO TACKLE OUR
ISSUES AND OUR CHALLENGES, BUT IT IS NO ONE'S FAULT.
IT IS NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON'S FAULT.
WE DECIDED ON THE BEST WAY TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD AND IF
THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT NEED TO BE IN THE BUDGET
FOR IT, THEN SO BE IT.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT IN THAT MANNER.
IT COST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO RUN THE CITY.

IF WE FIX A PROBLEM, THE MONEY IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM
SOMEWHERE.
SO IF WE ASK FOR A MILLAGE INCREASE, LET'S SAY, WHAT -- AND
WE SAY IT'S ALL GOING TO GO TO FIXING ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS
THAT WE HAVE.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT WHEN IT'S $45, $200 OR
$3,000 ON YOUR PROPERTY TAXES?
ARE YOU GOING TO PARTICIPATE?
ARE YOU GOING TO REMEMBER THIS DAY WHEN WE NEED TO --
SOMEBODY INTERRUPTING?
9:55:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
KEEP GOING.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
PLEASE, SHE'S SPEAKING.
9:55:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST A STATEMENT.
TAKE IT AS YOU WILL.
NEVERTHELESS, THE NATURAL STORM, THE NATURAL STORMS THAT
HAVE HAPPENED IN OUR CITY DOES NOT BELONG TO AN INDIVIDUAL
WHERE IT'S SOMEONE'S FAULT.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE 6,000 MEN AND WOMEN LINEMEN WHO
ROLLED INTO OUR CITY, PREPARED TO ROLL INTO OUR CITY TO GET
US BACK ONLINE WITH OUR ELECTRICITY.
I REALLY GREATLY APPRECIATE THEM.
SOME PEOPLE WERE LUCKIER THAN OTHERS.
SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T LOSE POWER AT ALL.
SOME PEOPLE WERE OUT FOR TWO DAYS.

SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL OUT.
LAST NIGHT, AS OF 10:00 LAST NIGHT, STILL 17,000 PEOPLE THAT
DID NOT HAVE POWER.
WE HAVE TO CARE ABOUT THEM, TOO.
THAT MEANS THEY HAVE BEEN IN THIS A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN
YOU.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LOST EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING THAT THEY OWN AND YET YOUR LIGHTS AREN'T ON.
IT'S LIKE WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THAT?
I UNDERSTAND YOU PROVIDE EMPATHY AND YOU HAVE TO BE PATIENT
IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
ALSO, THE ONE THING THAT I LEARNED TO DO, ESPECIALLY IN
LIGHT OF MY MOTHER PASSING AWAY IN JANUARY, YOU HAVE TO
FORGIVE A LOT OF PEOPLE.
IN THIS INSTANCE, THAT IS ALSO CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN UPSET
AND HAVE THROWN THEIR ANGER TOWARD INDIVIDUALS BLAMING
PEOPLE.
I FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE HEAT OF THE
MOMENT THAT ANYTHING CAN BE SAID AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
MEANT.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I APPRECIATE THE STAFF FOR WHAT THEY
HAVE DONE TO HELP PULL THE CITY BACK TOGETHER AND STILL WORK
TO DO.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:57:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:57:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
GOOD MORNING FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE CHAMBER AND THOSE
LISTENING AND ALL THE CITY AND WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH,
IT'S BEEN A SHARED EXPERIENCE.
KEEP TELLING PEOPLE THE LAST TWO AND A HALF WEEKS HAVE BEEN
THE LONGEST YEAR I CAN REMEMBER.
IT'S BEEN TOUGH ON JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY.
I ECHO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S PRAISE OF THE INDIVIDUALS
THAT WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I'M ALWAYS SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN
IMPRESSED BY HOW, WHEN CHALLENGED, THE EMPLOYEES FROM THE
DIRECTORS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FOLKS
THAT ARE ANSWERING PHONES, BALANCING THE BOOKS, PICKING UP
OUR TRASH, MAKING SURE WE ARE GETTING CLEAN WATER IN THE
HOUSE, MAKING SURE THE DIRTY WATER IS GETTING TAKEN OUT OF
THE HOUSE.
THE CHIEF, THE POLICE, FIRE DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY REALLY
RISES TO THE OCCASION AND MORE SO THAN OTHERS IN THIS
PARTICULAR EPISODE THAT WE JUST EXPERIENCED.
I'VE SEEN IT MYSELF WITH MY OWN EYES.
YOU CAME BEFORE US AND TALKED ABOUT THE GO TEAM THAT CAME.
I SAW THEM ON THE STREET LIKE 7:00 IN THE MORNING AFTER THE
STORM.
THEY WERE EVER PRESENT ASSESSING DAMAGE.

OUR LAWYERS WERE HELPING VOLUNTEERING IN SHELTERS.
WE HAD LAWYERS OUT THERE HANDING OUT MEALS AND VOLUNTEERING.
[ENCODER DISCONNECT]
I HEAR IN SOME OF THIS THAT SOMEHOW THIS IS NOW -- NOW IT'S
A NEW DAY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A NEW DAY.
WE KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
WE ALL KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO PREPARE FOR SOME OF IT,
BUT NOT -- BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING ALL WE CAN DO TO
PREPARE FOR IT.
SO I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS THIS COUNCIL, WE SHARE
BLAME FOR THE THINGS THAT DIDN'T WORK PROPERLY.
THE ADMINISTRATION SHARES SOME BLAME FOR THE THINGS THAT
DIDN'T WORK PROPERLY.
AFTER HELENE, WE ACTUALLY, THIS COUNCIL, WE DIDN'T WAIT
UNTIL NOW.
WE ACTUALLY SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ABOUT THIS,
OF LESSONS LEARNED.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TIME.
HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE STORMS IN THE
NEXT FEW MONTHS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TIME.
THE WORST THING WE CAN BE IS REACTIONARY.
WE NEED TO DO SOME DIGGING AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT

HAPPENED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS A COMMON ELEMENT IN A LOT
-- IN GOVERNMENT AND BEING REPRESENTATIVE IN THE GOVERNMENT
AND LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS IS YOU SHOULD BE DOING THIS
AND DOING THAT.
A LOT OF US KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE SHOULD BE.
PROBLEM IS WE'RE ONLY BALANCING THE RESOURCES WE HAVE.
IT IS ATTEMPTING TO FIND THE RESOURCES.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS COUNCIL COMES INTO PLAY AND IT IS
THE ERRORS AND MISTAKES OF THE COUNCIL OF THE PAST AND SOME
OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAYBE RIGHT THE SHIP OF WHAT
OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES ARE IN FUTURE BUDGET CYCLES OF WHERE
WE PLACE MONEY, HOW WE DEVELOP THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHERE WE
DEVELOP THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE.
I THINK THAT WILL BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION TO HAVE AS
WE MOVE FORWARD AS FAR AS WHAT THE SEVEN OF US HAVE CONTROL
OVER BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
LAND DEVELOPMENT, BUDGET, THAT'S OUR BAILIWICK.
THAT'S US.
SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF, THE GAS, WE CAN POINT -- WE NEED TO
HAVE ANSWERS TO THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I WAS JUST AS FRUSTRATED WITH A THREE-HOUR LINE.
WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHY GAS WASN'T FLOWING INTO THE CITY OF
TAMPA.

THE MAYOR DOESN'T CONTROL THAT.
THE COUNCIL DOESN'T CONTROL THAT.
THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
BUT WE NEED TO FIND OUT AND DISCOVER.
ALL OF OUR GENERATORS, THEY OPERATE ON GAS.
EVEN THE BEST LAID PLANS OF HAVING GENERATORS, IF WE DON'T
HAVE GAS, THE GENERATORS ARE JUST EXPENSIVE PIECES OF METAL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, MYSELF, OTHERS HERE SUPPORTED THE IDEA.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION IN A COUPLE OF
MONTHS.
I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE KNEE-JERK.
I WANT THIS TO BE VERY ANALYTICAL AND A REALLY SPECIFIC
PROCESS SO WE MAKE SURE -- THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE FIXED IN
THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
THIS WILL BE A LONG-TERM AGENDA OF RESILIENCY OF PROTECTING
OUR PEOPLE AS WE DEVELOP THE CITY OF TAMPA IN THE FUTURE.
10:02:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL ECHO MY COLLEAGUES IN SAYING THANK YOU
TO THE STAFF FOR DOING THE JOBS THAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR AND
EVEN MORE.
IT WAS VERY HEARTENING.
BUT EVEN MORE SO, THE COMMUNITY.
THE COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY WHO LIVES HERE DID NOT SIGN UP FOR
THIS, BUT EVERYWHERE, EVERY SINGLE PLACE I HAVE SEEN

COMMUNITY HAS COME TOGETHER.
I JUST RECEIVED MY POWER TEN MINUTES BEFORE I CAME TO THE
MEETING.
I LEFT MY HOUSE WITH NO POWER THIS MORNING.
MY HUSBAND CALLED AND TOLD ME WE GOT IT, WHICH IS WONDERFUL,
JUST SO THAT FOLKS KNOW, EVERYBODY IS STILL GOING THROUGH
IT.
I ALSO ECHO COUNCILMAN VIERA'S NEED FOR AN INDEPENDENT STUDY
THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE US.
THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE EMOTION.
THAT DOES NOT WISH THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT, BUT
FACTS OF HOW IT CAN BE DIFFERENT GOING FORWARD.
WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED.
I MADE THE MOTION RIGHT AFTER HELENE THAT WE GET TOGETHER
AND HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THINGS WE COULD DO BETTER.
I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TODAY TO INCLUDE A SWOT ANALYSIS FOR
ALL DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO.
STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, AND THREATS.
IT ALLOWS US TO SEE WHAT WE DID WELL.
ALLOWS US TO SEE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
WE ALL HAVE THOSE.
ALL OF US DO.
EVERYBODY DOES IN EVERY SITUATION.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS PERFECT.
SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME AREAS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

BUT FOR ME, RIGHT NOW, AS WAS MENTIONED, THERE IS TIME FOR
REVIEW, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL IN RECOVERY.
THE FACT THAT WE JUST GOT POWER BACK SAYS THERE ARE STILL
PEOPLE IN THAT RECOVERY PHASE.
FOR ME, I AM MOST INTERESTED IN THE INFORMATION YOU SHARED
ABOUT SHARING THE INFORMATION NUMBER DAILY.
I THINK THAT SATURDAY IS PROBABLY TOO EARLY TO STOP THAT.
COMFORT STATION INFORMATION DAILY.
FEMA INFORMATION DAILY.
WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THEY WANT TO KNOW
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY APPLY FOR FEMA AND THEY GET DENIED.
THEY KNOW THEY CAN APPEAL BUT HOW DO WE APPEAL.
IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN CREATE SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEOS,
VISUALS, THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT I'M LOOKING FOR NOW
TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL THAT THERE'S BEEN PUSH FOR SOCIAL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BEST, IN MY OPINION, BETWEEN
HELENE AND MILTON WAS THE FACT THAT CITY COUNCIL GOT THEIR
INDIVIDUAL COMMUNICATIONS PERSON, CRYSTAL CLARK WAS
CONNECTED TO US.
ANSWERED QUESTIONS FOR US.
ENABLED ME TO GET THE SQUARE IMAGES SO I COULD POST ON BOTH
BLUE SKY AND INSTAGRAM.
THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
THAT QUICK CHANGE WAS GREAT.

BUT CONTINUING TO PUSH THAT MESSAGE OUT DAILY, NOT STOPPING,
MAKING SURE FOLKS KNOW WHERE THE COMFORT STATIONS ARE,
MAKING SURE FOLKS KNOW WE DROPPED SOME BRUSH OFF YESTERDAY
AT THE 22nd BRUSH SITE.
WE WERE ONLY THE THIRD PEOPLE THERE.
9:30 IN THE MORNING.
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT RESOURCE YET.
MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE OUT TO THE SPACES THEY CAN
HELP.
SO, YES, THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME FOR REVIEW.
I 100% SUPPORT.
THINGS THAT I DID NOT SUPPORT MONETARILY I THINK WE NEED TO
REVIEW AND MAKE SURE.
I DON'T THINK NOW IS THE TIME FOR WEST RIVER WALK.
I DON'T THINK NOW IS THE TIME FOR SOME OTHER THINGS.
NOW I WANT TO REVIEW THAT.
I WANT TO REVIEW WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING.
IN THE MEANTIME, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE STILL IN RECOVERY.
THAT IS WHERE I WANT OUR FOCUS TO BE.
I'M SO PROUD OF OUR STAFF THAT THAT IS WHERE YOUR FOCUS IS
RIGHT NOW, TOO.
TUNNEL VISION.
LET'S CONTINUE THAT.
LET'S NOT STOP SATURDAY.
LET'S CONTINUE FEMA INFORMATION.

THAT IS WHAT I'M HEARING NOW.
FEMA, FEMA, FEMA.
HOW DO WE GET RECOVERY FOR FOLKS WHO ARE WITHOUT POWER AT
THE VERY LEAST RECOVERING THEIR REFRIGERATE.
IF THERE'S RUMOR CONTROL.
WHATEVER IT IS, LET'S GET THAT OUT THERE SO FOLKS KNOW.
I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THE THING I AM MOST PROUD OF IS OUR
COMMUNITY FOR COMING TOGETHER.
DIDN'T MATTER WHERE YOU WERE.
SAW IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SAW IT PERSONALLY.
WE TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES AND GOVERNMENT COMES INTO HELP BUT
ULTIMATELY WE ALL HELPED EACH OTHER.
I WANT TO SAY I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR CITIZENS FOR HELPING.
10:07:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:07:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO WE AUTOMATICALLY GET SEVEN MINUTES?
10:07:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FIVE.
10:07:33AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK FOR THE SAME
COUNCILMAN VIERA GOT.
10:07:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:07:39AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID A LOT OF THINGS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE STAFF.

YOU ALL DID GIVE UP YOUR FAMILIES.
EVEN SENIOR LEADERSHIP LOST THEIR HOMES AND COMMUNICATING
WITH US REGULARLY EVEN OUT OF WHEREVER THEY WERE LOCATED.
THINKING ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES, THINKING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNITY THAT LOST EVERYTHING.
WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING HARD ALSO.
WE SUFFERED SOME OF THE SAME THINGS -- HURTAK JUST GOT HER
POWER ON.
BUT IT'S NOTHING LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR HOUSES AND
LOST EVERYTHING THEY HAVE.
WE GRIEVE WITH YOU ALL.
IN PARTICULAR THANK THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
I COMPLAINED IN THE PAST ABOUT HURRICANES WHERE WE WERE NOT
COMMUNICATED WITH EFFECTIVELY.
CHIEF OF STAFF TALKED TO ME BY TEXT OR PHONE ALMOST HOURLY
THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
COMMUNICATION PERSON ASSIGNED TO US FROM A COMMUNICATION
THAT HE AND I HAD.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS HE DID.
THE RESULTS OF WHAT HAPPENED, CONSTITUENTS WOULD ASK FOR
SOMETHING, I WOULD TELL HIM AND WITHIN AN HOUR A LOT OF
TIMES THERE WAS A RESPONSE.
THAT WAS FANTASTIC.
THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT BACKED HIM UP.
I COVER SOUTH TAMPA.

MY DISTRICT IS MOSTLY EVACUATION A.
PEOPLE HAD TO LEAVE.
IT HAD THE MOST DAMAGE.
MOST OF THE AREAS THAT WERE DAMAGED.
WE'VE HAD TWO HURRICANES.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS AND WE WILL BE IN THE
WORKSHOPS BUT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS NOW.
I'LL JUST HIT SOME HIGH POINTS OF SOME OF THEM.
IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE HAD A PLAN TO DEAL WITH HURRICANES BUT
NOT ONES WITH DEVASTATING IMPACT.
WE NEED A RECOVERY PLAN AND THAT'S COMMUNICATION AND ACTION
THAT KICKS IN IMMEDIATELY WHEN A HURRICANE IS DONE.
TWO WEEKS LATER, STILL TOO MANY PEOPLE SUFFERING -- MORE
THAN TWO WEEKS LATER, PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM HELENE.
WE NEED TO RESPOND MORE QUICKLY.
I'LL ASK FOR US TO CREATE A ROBUST RECOVERY PLAN.
YES, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE WORST STORM IN A HUNDRED YEARS,
BUT IT MAY COME AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND WE NEED TO BE PREPARED
FOR IT.
BACK IN 2016, CONTROVERSIAL TAX PASSED CALLED THE BUCKHORN
TAX, STORMWATER TAX AND BASED ON A STORMWATER PLAN.
OBVIOUSLY THAT STORMWATER PLAN FAILED.
MOST OF THE STORMWATER PLAN WAS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
STORMWATER PLAN COMPLETELY FAILED.
AREAS IN THE CITY THAT FLOODED, FLASH FLOODS FOR THE FIRST

TIME EVER.
YES, CONDITIONS CHANGED.
ARMENIA AVENUE WAS RESURFACED AND THAT MIGHT HAVE CHANGED
CONDITIONS.
THAT PLAN DID NOT WORK.
IT WAS A COMPLETE FAILURE.
WE NEED TO REDO THE STORMWATER PLAN.
ABSOLUTE NEW STORMWATER PLAN --
[ APPLAUSE ]
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
WE NEED A NEW STORMWATER PLAN THAT LOOKS AT THE HYDROLOGY OF
THE CITY.
WHY PEOPLE AT 21 FEET HAD 18 INCHES OF FLOODING.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WE NEED TO USE THINGS LIKE LiDAR.
BY THE WAY, THE MONEY IS THERE.
TAX WAS PASSED.
JUST NOT SPENDING IT CORRECTLY.
WHY SOME PUMPS FAILED?
WASN'T BECAUSE OF THE GENERATORS.
IT WAS BECAUSE THE PIPES THAT PUSH THE WATER OUT INTO THE
BAY OR WHEREVER WAS INUNDATED WITH WATER.
THAT SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK.
IT WAS BUILT ON AN OLD IDEA.
IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

WE NEED GENERATORS BUT HOW CAN YOU -- GENERATOR CAN'T PUMP
WATER IF THE PIPE IS UNDERWATER.
THE MAYOR HIRED A FIRST SUSTAINABLE OFFICER FOUR YEARS AGO
AT THE REQUEST OF JOHN DINGFELDER AND OTHERS ON THE BOARD
AND ASKED FOR ALL KIND OF SOLUTIONS AND WE THOUGHT THINGS
WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, VERY WELL QUALIFIED, HE MOSTLY
WORKED ON TOILET TO TAP.
COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ISSUES THAT WOULD HAVE RESOLVED
THIS.
THE DEBRIS CLEANUP, THE TEAM THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON IT HAS
BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD.
THE THING I'VE BEEN TELLING STAFF, WE NEED TRANSPARENCY AND
WHEN PEOPLE'S DEBRIS WOULD BE PICKED UP.
BEEN OUT HERE TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO
CLEAN UP?
WE NEED COMMUNICATION ON THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE TRUCK, THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T
HAVE TRUCKS IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO PAY ENOUGH.
WE SHOULD HAVE HAD TRUCKS FROM GEORGIA, ALABAMA, PAID
WHATEVER IT TAKES BECAUSE FEMA IS REIMBURSING US.
I SAID TO ADMINISTRATION, WHOSE FAULT, FEMA FOR NOT
REIMBURSING OR THE CITY FOR NOT HIRING?
WHY PEOPLE WAIT THREE, FOUR HOURS FOR SANDBAGS ON SUNDAY

BEFORE MILTON?
TRUTH IS, DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SAND.
GUDES AND I PUSHED FOR SANDBAGGING MACHINES SO RETIREES
WOULDN'T HAVE TO SIT AND SHOVEL SAND IN THE HEAT.
GUESS WHAT, ALL DAY SUNDAY BEFORE MILTON THAT'S WHAT WE MADE
THEM DO WHILE TERRIFIED ABOUT THE HURRICANE HITTING.
DID WANT TURN ON THE SANDBAG MACHINES -- DIDN'T TURN THE
SANDBAG MACHINES UNTIL 5:00.
WE SHOULD HAVE SET UP MORE CENTERS.
RAN OUT OF TARPS, FOOD AND WATER.
CITY'S FAULT?
FEMA'S FAULT?
WHO DID THAT?
WHY DID WE RUN OUT? COMMUNICATION WAS A COMPLETE FAILURE.
I PRINTED ALL THE Facebook, ALL THE TWITTER.
PEOPLE HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS KIND OF SURGE WAS GOING TO COME
IN.
I CAN GO BACK OBJECTIVELY AND SHOW YOU THE COMMUNICATION DID
NOT ADEQUATELY WARN PEOPLE.
WE WERE USING THE SAME MESSAGES.
SURE, WIND AND SURGE, BUT NOBODY SAID EIGHT FEET OF WATER IN
THE HOUSE.
IT WAS A COMPLETE MISTAKE.
ALSO COMMUNICATION DID NOT PIVOT TO RECOVERY.
I TALKED TO SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEY SAID WE

ARE POSTING INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
I SAID WHERE ARE YOU POSTING IT?
SAID POSTING ON INDIVIDUAL Facebook PAGES.
NOBODY IN COMMUNICATION WAS AGGREGATING IT ON THE CITY'S
Facebook OR TWITTER PAGE.
HOW WAS ANYBODY SUPPOSED TO NOW ABOUT THAT?
BASIC THING OF COMMUNICATION IS TO AGGREGATE AND NOBODY WAS
DOING IT.
THE OTHER THING IS ABOUT COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION.
MOST OF US ARE ON THE MEDIA LIST OF THE CITY SO WE GET THE
PRESS RELEASES.
IN P R-10 1, THE FIRST THING YOU DO BEFORE YOU SEND OUT A
PRESS RELEASE, CALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, NOT EVEN IN SAME
GOVERNMENT BUT OUTSIDE, HEY, WE'LL HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE.
WE FIND OUT ABOUT PRESS CONFERENCES BECAUSE WE HAPPEN TO BE
ON THE MEDIA LIST NOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY INVITED US AND MY
DISTRICT WAS THE HARDEST HIT.
THE OTHER THING IS FEMA, WE HAVE PEOPLE CRYING IN TEARS
BECAUSE FEMA WILL NOT HELP THEM.
WEBSITE DOESN'T WORK.
FEMA'S ANSWER IS IF YOU GET REJECTED FIRST TIME, APPLY
AGAIN.
PEOPLE WITH NO POWER, APPLYING ONLINE, DOESN'T WORK.
APPLY A SECOND TIME AND WAIT FOUR HOURS ON THE PHONE AND
FIND OUT THEY MADE A MINOR MISTAKE.

HUGE LINES NOW FOR THE STATION JUST SET UP.
FEMA IS A COMPLETE FAILURE.
WHAT FEMA HAS DONE, THE DIRECTOR, WHO CAME HERE AND MET WITH
ONE COUNCIL MAYOR, FEDERAL LOBBYIST, NOT WITH CITY COUNCIL
AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, DIDN'T COME ON THE GROUND IN
TAMPA.
SHE TURNED IT INTO A PARTISAN WAR AND SHE'S CONVINCING
PEOPLE TO ATTACK BY LEADING A MAGA WAR AGAINST TRUMP.
LEADING ATTACK TO FIGHT POOR PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR HOUSES
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE CALL CENTER AND THE
WEBSITE.
IT'S TERRIBLE.
FEMA NEEDS TO STEP UP.
ALSO, IF GETTING MONEY FROM FEMA, WHO IS SIGNING THE
CONTRACTS?
IS THE MAYOR GOING TO HAVE US APPROVE IT?
WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT?
LASTLY, THIS IS ABOUT -- PART OF THIS PROBLEM IS ABOUT THE
EDIFICE COMPLEX TAMPA HAS.
CAN'T FOCUS ON BUILDINGS.
FOCUS ON PEOPLE AND PROTECTING PEOPLE.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:14:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU TO ALL THE CITY STAFF AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS

WORKING TOGETHER AROUND THE CLOCK.
I APPRECIATE IT.
THIS IS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING.
THANK YOU, CHIEF OF STAFF.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT, BUT YOU'RE NEVER READY FOR
SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
TWO DAYS -- THE NIGHT BEFORE THE HURRICANE, I HEARD
KATRINA-LIKE SITUATION.
I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, IT'S OVER.
IT'S DONE.
HOW DO YOU BEAT THAT.
I REMEMBER KATRINA ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO AND WHAT HAPPENED IN
NEW ORLEANS.
IF WE WERE GOING TO GET A DIRECT, DIRECT HIT, WE WOULDN'T BE
HERE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE STORM WORKSHOP.
WE NEED TO BECOME MORE RESILIENT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN'T BEAT MOTHER NATURE.
I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU LIVE.
YOU GET A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE, IT'S DONE.
I'VE SEEN THE SIMULATIONS, SEEN WHAT IT'S DONE IN OTHER
AREAS.

YOU CAN'T BEAT IT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
BUT AT THE VERY LEAST WE CAN PROTECT OURSELVES WITH
INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE, IN STORMWATER, IN PUBLIC
SAFETY BECAUSE YOU'RE OUT THERE.
TAMPA FIRE RESCUING PEOPLE.
RESCUING PEOPLE FROM HOUSES, PEOPLE ON CANOES AND BOATS.
IT'S BEEN A HUGE UNDERTAKING AND HUGE COMMUNITY EFFORT.
I'LL STOP THERE AND GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS MS. ZELMAN
WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:16:27AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
ONE POINT COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP, IT
IS NOT ACCURATE THAT THE CITY WASN'T ENGAGING IN CONTRACTS
TO GET ADDITIONAL DEBRIS REMOVAL CONTRACTORS.
WE HAD THOSE IN PLACE FOR HELENE.
IF YOU RECALL, HELENE WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO NORTH CAROLINA
AND EVERY COMMUNITY THAT WAS IMPACTED BY HELENE, THEY
ENGAGED THIS BIDDING WAR WHERE WE HAD CONTRACTORS LITERALLY
STOLEN FROM US.
PEOPLE WERE OVERPAYING THEM.
THEY WERE NOT SHOWING UP HERE AND THEY WERE GOING TO OTHER
COMMUNITIES, OTHER STATES, WHATEVER.
DEANNA FAGGART AND OUR OFFICE WORKED TO GET OTHER
CONTRACTORS.
ONGOING THING.
WE ONLY RECENTLY FINALLY GOT MORE BECAUSE BASICALLY EVERYONE

IN THE STATE IS NOW PAYING WAY OVER WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY
CONTRACTED WITH THESE CONTRACTORS FOR, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT
FEMA WILL REIMBURSE US BECAUSE EVEN THE STATE IS PAYING WAY
MORE THAN THEY WERE PAYING.
WE WERE HEARING STORIES ABOUT LITERALLY PEOPLE IN MOTEL
ROOMS THAT WERE CONTRACTORS, PEOPLE KNOCKING AT THEIR DOOR
AND OFFERING THEM MORE MONEY TO GO ELSEWHERE.
THAT IS WHAT THE CITY WAS HAVING TO DEAL WITH AS WELL AS
EVERY OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT BETWEEN HERE AND NORTH
CAROLINA.
IT WAS JUST A CRAZY BIDDING WAR.
IT WAS NO FAILURE ON OUR PART.
WE WERE WORKING TO GET THOSE ADDITIONAL DEBRIS REMOVAL
CONTRACTORS AND HAVE NOW SECURED THEM.
BUT IT WASN'T EASY.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
IF I MAY, I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH FEMA BUT AS A FELLOW
GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE, I WOULD ASK, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM
CRITICIZING GOVERNMENT WORKERS.
AGAIN, FEMA FROM HERE TO NORTH CAROLINA, THEY HAVE GOT
PEOPLE WORKING.
THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES ARE BEING THREATENED BECAUSE OF
WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO, AND IT DOESN'T HELP FOR US TO
SAY DEROGATORY THINGS ABOUT THEM IN THIS MOMENT.
WE CAN EXAMINE IT LATER.

I'M SURE THEY ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THEY COULD DO DIFFERENTLY,
BUT REALLY, AS A FELLOW GOVERNMENT WORKER, I'M JUST SAYING,
PLEASE, REFRAIN FROM SAYING THOSE KIND OF THINGS PUBLICLY
BECAUSE PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE LITERALLY BEING THREATENED.
I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATIONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT WANT RELIEF
FROM FEMA.
THERE'S FEMA DISASTER RELIEF.
FEMA FLOOD INSURANCE.
I KNOW THEY ARE ALL WORKING, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP TO BE
SAYING INFLAMMATORY THINGS ABOUT THEM.
ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO POINTS.
10:19:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MS. ZELMAN, YOU KNOW I HAVE THE UTMOST
RESPECT FOR YOU BUT YOU ARE THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO LEGAL ISSUES.
I KNOW YOU HAVE AN OPINION AND MY OPINION IS DIFFERENT.
I DON'T THINK I SAID THAT THE CITY WASN'T TRYING TO GET
CONTRACTS, BUT IT'S CLEAR WE --
10:19:28AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
YOU SAID WE FAILED.
I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU WE WERE WORKING.
10:19:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
-- THE TRASH IS STILL OUT THERE.
ESPECIALLY IF FEMA -- I'M NOT ASKING FOR LEGAL ADVICE.
I'M JUST RESPONDING TO YOU.
NO DISRESPECT IN THAT.
I KNOW YOU ARE VERY INVOLVED AND VERY -- I'M JUST SAYING.
THE ISSUE IS WE FAILED TO GET THEM.

WE'RE A BIG CITY.
WE PAY I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IN THE STATE FOR OUR POLICE
OFFICERS.
WE ARE KNOWN FOR PAYING WELL.
WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THE TRUCKS.
HAZARD TO PEOPLE DEALING WITH IT.
STILL A HAZARD TO PEOPLE DEALING WITH IT AND SHOULD HAVE
BEEN A BETTER MECHANISM FOR FINDING TRUCKS.
IT WAS UNACCEPTABLE.
CITY NEW ON FRIDAY BEFORE MILTON THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO
BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE DEBRIS.
I BEGGED CHIEF OF STAFF TO HAVE COMMUNICATION, TELL PEOPLE
THAT SO PEOPLE COULD FIND THEIR OWN CONTRACTORS AND THE CITY
DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY UNTIL 4:30 ON WEDNESDAY.
THAT'S DESPICABLE.
THEY SHOULD PUT A TARP.
PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE.
SHOULD HAVE SAID MIGHT NOT GET TO YOU SO YOU REALLY SHOULD
FIND A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR AND REALLY SHOULD REIMBURSE THEM
AS WELL.
AS FEMA, THE ISSUE IS THIS PARTISAN WAR -- I'M A DEMOCRAT,
BY THE WAY -- THE PARTISAN WAR IS BEING LED BY FEMA WHERE
THEY ARE FIGHTING POOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR HOUSES.
GO ONLINE AND LOOK, WHEN POOR PEOPLE HAVE TO APPLY TWICE TO
FEMA AND CAN'T GET MONEY BECAUSE THEY ARE REJECTED, SITE

DOESN'T WORK, CALL CENTER LONG, AND THEY ARE SLAMMED FOR
MAGA RADICALS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PARTY AFFILIATION
IS.
DESPICABLE THAT FEMA IS ENGAGED IN DIRTY POLITICS.
LIKE I ASKED THEM TO DO, FIX THEIR WEBSITE AND APOLOGIZE TO
PEOPLE FOR MORE THEY ARE DOING.
FEMA, AGAIN, MY DISTRICT HARDEST HIT.
FEMA DIDN'T CONTACT ME UNTIL TUESDAY, TWO WEEKS AFTER HELENE
AND A WEEK AFTER MILTON.
THEY FLEW IN, HAPPY TO COLLABORATE, THREE HOURS AFTER I MET
THEM, THEY OPEN UP THEIR FIRST OFFICE, THEY DIDN'T EVEN TELL
ME ABOUT IT THAT MORNING.
CITY DIDN'T TELL ME ABOUT IT.
I FOUND OUT ON THE CITY'S TWITTER ACCOUNT.
BETTER COORDINATION.
LIKE I TOLD THE CHIEF OF STAFF, I'M DRIVING INTO A
NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE 20 PEOPLE WILL YELL AT ME AT LEAST HALF
AN HOUR.
I UNDERSTAND WHY.
HOUSES FLOODED.
ALL THEIR LIFE GOODS ON THE STREET.
I NEED THE CITY TO WORK WITH ME BECAUSE I HAVE NO CONTROL
HOW TO CLEAN THIS UP AND FIX THE PROBLEMS.
WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINE, MEETING WITH PEOPLE LISTENING TO

PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP THEM.
WE NEED THE ADMINISTRATION TO COLLABORATE.
WE NEED FEMA TO COLLABORATE WITH US AND SO FAR THEY ARE NOT.
THE ADMINISTRATION IS COLLABORATING BUT NEED IT ON A HIGHER
DEGREE.
FEMA IS NOT --
10:22:15AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
IF I COULD --
10:22:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, NO.
LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:22:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
45 SECONDS.
I'LL SAY THIS.
THE CONVERSATION YOU JUST SAW RIGHT NOW, I'VE HAD THEM
BEHIND THE SCENES WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, OVER THE LAST FEW
DAYS MUCH WORSE.
I AM VERY ANGRY RIGHT NOW.
I AM.
I AM.
BUT I'M FOCUSED ON SOLUTIONS.
I'M FOCUSED ON SOLUTIONS AND MOVING FORWARD, FINDING OUT
WHAT WENT WRONG IN THE PAST, RIGHT, IF ANYTHING.
FINDING THAT OUT.
I'M COMMITTED -- COMMITTED.
I TOLD SOMEBODY A FEW DAYS AGO THEY TRIED TO TALK ME OUT OF
AN IDEA, I SAID I AM RIGHT NOW A VERY HOT CUBAN AND YOU PUT
A TINY THIRD OF A PIECE OF ICE IN IT.

IT IS STILL VERY HOT.
THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LOST EVERYTHING.
I WANT TO COMMIT TO THEM RESULTS.
RESULTS.
THIS IS NOT -- I COULD GO FOREVER.
LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD.
10:23:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH IS THE ONLY REGISTERED COMMENT AND THEN
WE'LL GO TO THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO
AHEAD.
10:23:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
SO GOD BE TO THE GLORY.
NORMALLY WHEN I'M ON HERE, I UPDATE ABOUT PROGRAMS AND
PROJECTS.
BUT TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND TO LET THE
NATION KNOW HOW PEOPLE IN TAMPA STOOD UP.
ORDINARY PEOPLE DID EXTRAORDINARY THINGS TO HELP EACH OTHER.
CAME TOGETHER FOR ONE PURPOSE TO HELP EACH OTHER.
GOES OUT TO THOSE WHO HAVE LOST EVERYTHING AND IN SOME CASES
LOST THEIR LIVES.
I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M PROUD OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO
WERE ON THE GROUND HELPING PEOPLE FOR POSTING WHERE
RESIDENTS CAN GET HELP FROM.

A SPECIAL SHOUT-OUT TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON BECAUSE -- THAT
THE WATER IN TAMPA WAS GOING TO BE CUT OFF.
HE STRAIGHTENED OUT THAT MYTH AND I WAS ABLE TO SHARE THAT
WITH MY LARGE FOLLOWING ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I ALSO WANT TO GIVE -- TO THE MAYOR WHO DID HER PART ON THE
GROUND.
AND I'M DEFINITELY KEEP ONE THING IN MIND, LEAVE OR DIE.
I ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVE, COMMISSIONER MYERS
AND CONGRESSIONAL LEADER CASTOR FOR WHAT SHE DID.
I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION TAMPA HOUSING
AUTHORITY THAT WENT DOOR TO DOOR IN ROBLES PARK TO MAKE SURE
PEOPLE GOT THE NECESSARY ITEMS.
SHOUT-OUT TO LEROY MOORE.
THE RECOVERY HEAD IS GOING TO BE PAINFUL.
INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS, REDUCTION IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE ARE TAMPA STRONG AND CAN MAKE IT THROUGH ANYTHING.
THIS IS AND WILL BE A LESSON LEARNED.
AS IT RELATES TO FEMA, THEY REJECTED ME.
I'M STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO CORRECT THAT PROBLEM.
AS A WHOLE, TAMPA STANDS STRONG.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY IN TAMPA FOR DOING THEIR PART.
10:25:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IN THE ROOM IS SHAWN WILSON, CONNIE
BURTON, AND ELIZABETH ARCADIO IS WHAT I SEE.

YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:26:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
SHAWN WILSON, PRESIDENT OF BLUE SKY COMMUNITIES WITH OFFICES
AT 180 FOUNTAIN PARK WAY NORTH IN ST. PETERSBURG.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
I'M HERE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS, I THINK.
OUR ADDERLEY AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY ON NORTH NEBRASKA,
JUST NORTH OF BUSCH IS OPEN.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT 40 RESIDENTS IN AND MOVING A FEW PEOPLE IN
EVERY DAY ON OUR WAY TO A FULL OCCUPANCY WHICH WILL BE 128
HARDWORKING FAMILIES.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY AND
CELEBRATION SCHEDULED THAT HAD TO GET POSTPONED, BUT WE HAD
IT RESCHEDULED.
I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS RECEIVED INVITATIONS.
IF NOT, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE.
WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD THAT ARE ALREADY
CONFIRMED.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE LET YOU KNOW WHEN THAT IS AND
HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BE THERE.
THE ADDERLEY PHASE TWO IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 39.
I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A LOAN.

THAT IS A LOAN THAT WILL EVENTUALLY GET PREPAID.
AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF ALSO AND RECOGNIZE THAT STAFF IS
UTILIZING A FINANCING MECHANISM THAT IS NOT GENERAL REVENUE.
IT'S NOT JUST TAKING STATE MONEY.
NOT JUST TAKING FEDERAL MONEY, AND IT'S A FINANCING
MECHANISM INVOLVING BONDS THAT IS TRIED AND TRUE.
OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE USED IT VERY SUCCESSFULLY IN
THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
AND I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, THAT'S ITEM 39.
I HOPE YOU'LL APPROVE IT.
ADDERLEY PHASE TWO IS GOING TO BE 100 UNITS AND THAT'S GOING
TO BE FOR SENIORS AND, OF COURSE, ALL OF THE UNITS THAT BLUE
SKY PRODUCES ARE FOR EITHER 30% AMI, 60% AMI, OR 80% AMI.
SO WE'RE SERVING TRULY THE LOW-INCOME PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
10:28:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CONNIE BURTON, ELIZABETH ARCADIO.
YES, MA'AM.
GOOD MORNING.
10:28:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
PEACE AND BLESSINGS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AS YOU LAID OUT, THAT WE START
TALKING ABOUT THE PREPARATION FOR 2025, BECAUSE JUST AS SURE

AS WE ALL STAND LIVING, HURRICANE SEASON WILL COME BACK
AGAIN.
THE LESSONS THAT HAS NOT BEEN LEARNED IS THE CONSTANT WAY IN
WHICH THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE APPROVED FOR HOUSING THAT
COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA JUST LAID OUT IS NOTWITHSTANDING
ANY OF THESE HURRICANES.
WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LEARNED ALMOST
SIX YEARS AGO WHEN COUNCILMAN REDDICK WAS THERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT CONTAINER HOMES.
IF YOU GO RIGHT OVER ON PLYMOUTH AND TAMPA STREET, YOU'LL
SEE A BEAUTIFUL CONTAINER HOME THERE STANDING.
IF YOU GO THROUGH ROBLES PARK VILLAGE WHERE I RESIDED DURING
HURRICANE MILTON, THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN SOLD.
THE PROPERTY IS STILL STANDING.
THOSE TYPE OF LESSONS YOU HAVE NOT LEARNED BECAUSE
DEVELOPERS THAT WANTS TO ALWAYS PROJECT THE SHINY OBJECTS TO
THE CITY IS THE FIRST THING YOU JUMP ON.
IN TERMS OF THE APPRENTICE PROGRAMS, IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE
ISSUES GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND YOU CANNOT GET
VENDORS TO COME IN, YOU HAVE A WEALTH OF UNTRAINED YOUNG
PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE MOVED TOWARD APPRENTICE PROGRAMS.
HOW MUCH TRAINING DID YOU NEED TO HAVE TO PICK UP TRASH?
ALL OF THIS IGNORE WHAT YOU HAVE IS GOING TO BE COSTLY TO
YOU AS THESE MOTHER NATURE CONTINUE TO EACH US LESSONS.
ITEMS 13 TO 25, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT NEW SOLUTIONS IN

TERMS OF NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PAST.
AND I AM TOO SO ANGRY THAT AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE LOW-INCOME
PEOPLE, THAT DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES, THAT HAVE LOST
EVERYTHING IS NOW BEING ASKED TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS, CALL
VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT PEOPLE IS NOT ANSWERING CALLS.
NO, THIS CITY NEED TO HAVE A DOOR-TO-DOOR CAMPAIGN WHERE YOU
KNOCK AND SEE HOW THIS CITY CAN HELP PEOPLE MAKE THE
CONNECTIONS TO THE NEEDED PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE.
BECAUSE ELECTIONS WILL BE COSTLY.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:31:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:15AM >> MY LEGAL NAME IS ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE, BUT MY MARRIED NAME
IS LIZ ARCADIO.
IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD I GO BY LIZ ARCADIO, BUT MY ID WOULD SAY
ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE.
I'LL TAKE A MOMENT TO BREATHE.
[BREATHING]
OUR CITY HAS BEEN HIT BY TWO HURRICANES.
WE ARE NOT ALONE.
I'M SPEAKING FOR MY COMMUNITY.
MY COMMUNITY IS SOUTH OF AZEELE, NORTH OF SWANN, EAST OF
MacDILL AND WEST OF ARMENIA.

WE ARE IN FLOOD ZONE X.
WE WERE ALL FLOODED.
NOT ALL.
THERE IS A RETENTION POND.
THE STRUCTURES ON THE RETENTION POND ARE FINE.
THERE IS A PARKING LOT WITH SOME TYPE OF WATER DRAINAGE
SYSTEM -- I'M NOT AN ENGINEER AND WILL NOT EVEN TRY TO BE
TODAY.
ALSO, IF I SPEAK BEYOND MY THREE MINUTES, I REQUEST THAT YOU
LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE I HEARD YOU SPEAK FIVE MINUTES, SEVEN
MINUTES, AND WE ARE EQUALS HERE.
THERE IS A PARKING LOT WITH AN UNDERWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM OF
SOME KIND.
WHY DID THE WATER WHERE WE ARE NOT GET THERE?
I WANT PIPES AND I WANT THEM NOW AND I WANT YOU TO BE
REACTIONARY.
I WANT REACTIONARY.
I DO NOT WANT A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM.
YOU'VE HAD A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM.
I WANT REACTIONARY.
I WANT TRUCKS.
I WANT TO SEE TRUCKS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY THAT SAY
STORMWATER DEPARTMENT.
I WANT THEM EVERY DAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, BUSINESS
HOURS, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TRUCKS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH PEOPLE, YOU HIRE MORE.
YOU KNOW HOW YOU HIRE MORE, WITH MY TAX DOLLARS THAT I PAY
EVERY YEAR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I WILL BE CONTINUING AND I THINK I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF MY
COMMUNITY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I AM HAPPY TO BE YOUR FRIEND.
I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ENEMIES.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE YOUR LIAISON.
I WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE WITH MY COMMUNITY WITH
COMMUNICATION FROM YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK BILL CARLSON.
I WILL STILL BE SPEAKING.
YOU CAN TURN MY THING OFF.
THIS IS LIKE THE ACADEMY AWARDS OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK BILL CARLSON FOR COMING TO MY
NEIGHBORHOOD AT MY REQUEST AND WALKING WITH ME AND SEEING
THE DESTRUCTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONCUR WITH MOST OF HIS AGREEMENTS --
COMMENTS.
I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO BE REACTIONARY.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I WANT AND BRIEFLY COMMENT FURTHER.
I WANT TRUCKS.

I WANT YOU TO HIRE PEOPLE WITH THE TAX DOLLARS I ALREADY
PAID.
I DON'T WANT TO PAY MORE TAXES.
I'M IN FLOOD ZONE X.
I SHOULD NOT HAVE FLOODED.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
I WANT THE TAX DOLLARS THAT I'VE ALREADY PAID TO PAY, HIRE
MORE PEOPLE, HIRE MORE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE IN THOSE TRUCKS IN
MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS OF FLOOD ZONE X.
LISTEN, I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF DEVASTATION EVERYWHERE.
I'M ZOOMING IN ON MY ISSUE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M AWARE OF THE
BIGGER ISSUES.
I'M ONLY SPEAKING ON MY ISSUE, BUT I AM AWARE THAT I AM NOT
ALONE.
I BOUGHT A HOME IN FLOOD ZONE X ONE YEAR AGO I SOLD MY HOME
IN FLOOD ZONE A SO THAT I WOULD NOT FLOOD.
I LIVED IN HYDE PARK, IN A BEAUTIFUL BUNGALOW.
I SOLD MY FAMILY HOME AND I GOT FLOODED.
I BOUGHT NEW CONSTRUCTION IN FLOOD ZONE X AND I BLAME CITY
COUNCIL AND I BLAME THE CITY.
I'M TIRED OF HEARING WHAT I HEARD TODAY.
WE'RE NOT AT FAULT.
THERE'S NO FAULT.
I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS.
YOU OVERDEVELOPED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU --

[ APPLAUSE ]
YOU DID NOT PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU DID NOT PUT IN THE PIPES TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S SIMPLE.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE FLOODWATERS, IT'S COMPLICATED.
THE WATER CAME FROM THE SKY.
[ LAUGHTER ]
AND IT HAD NOWHERE TO GO BUT MY LIVING ROOM.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DID NOT PUT THE PIPES FIRST.
ARE WE CLEAR?
YOU DON'T GET YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.
YOU HAVE TO EARN THE TAXPAYER'S DOLLAR.
YOU HAVE TO EARN MY PROPERTY TAXES.
YOU REPLACED SECTION 8 HOUSING WITH A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
TOWN HOUSE PROJECT.
YOU ARE COLLECTING PROPERTY TAXES ON THOSE BUILDINGS BUT YOU
DID NOT DO YOUR JOB FIRST OF PUTTING THE PIPES IN THE GROUND
FOR THE RUNOFF.
THERE IS RUNOFF.
AND IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD IN PLACE A PIPING SYSTEM THAT
WOULD RECEIVE THE RUNOFF.
THE PIPING SYSTEM ISN'T IN THE GROUND, SO YOU DON'T GET THE
TOWN HOUSES AND YOU DON'T GET THE PROPERTY TAXES.
ARE WE CLEAR?
YOU DON'T GET THE PROPERTY TAXES AND YOU DON'T GET MORE.

WHO SAID MORE?
YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY MORE PROPERTY TAXES.
I'M PAYING A LOT OF PROPERTY TAXES AND YOU DID NOT DO YOUR
JOB OF PUTTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN.
WHAT DO I WANT?
I WANT TRUCKS THAT SAY STORMWATER DEPARTMENT EVERY DAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TRUCKS, YOU HIRE MORE WITH MY TAX I'VE
ALREADY PAID.
I WANT PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING BECAUSE I DON'T
KNOW HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
I WANT PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO FIX THE
STORMWATER PROBLEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER FLOOD ZONE X
NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU CAN'T CONTROL MOTHER NATURE.
YOU CAN CONTROL THIS.
ARE WE CLEAR?
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:38:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER IS KEVIN LEIOVAS.
TY SCOTT.
KEVIN IS THE FIRST SPEAKER, AND THEN.
10:38:31AM >> WE'RE REPRESENTING EACH OTHER.
HUSBAND AND WIFE.
10:38:35AM >> KEVIN LEIOVAS.
10:38:38AM >> ANGELINA ARCHELA.

10:38:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ARE AS ONE SPEAKER.
10:38:45AM >> MY NAME IS ANGELINA.
I RESIDE AT 402 SOUTH ARRAWANA AVENUE.
WE MOVED IN 2020 AND WE HAVE TWO YOUNG ELEMENTARY KIDS.
WE ARE NOW DISPLACED.
WE TOOK PRIDE IN OUR HOME, NEW CONSTRUCTION HOME, FLOOD ZONE
X.
NOBODY ON OUR STREET HAD FLOOD INSURANCE.
WE HIRED A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, ALL THE OUT-OF-POCKET
EXPENSES ARE GOING TO EXCEED $40,000, PROBABLY MORE, PLUS MY
PARENTS HAD EVACUATED FROM THEIR ZONE B MANDATORY EVACUATION
TO STAY AT OUR HOUSE AND THEY WITNESSED THE STORM IN
REAL-TIME.
THERE WAS A VIRAL TIKTOK VIDEO GOING ON FROM MY HOME THAT
SHOWS WHAT MY DAD DESCRIBED AS A CRUISE SHIP LOOKING OUTSIDE
AND SEEING THE WATER FLOW THROUGH, FOUR FEET OF WATER, SIX
FEET AT SOME POINT, LIKE AN OCEAN PASSING.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE SYSTEM IS TO BLAME.
WE HAVE SEEN STORM FLOODING PREVIOUSLY AND NOTHING HAS BEEN
DONE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS AN OVERLOAD IN THE STORM DRAIN
SYSTEM.
I'LL GIVE KEVIN TIME TO SPEAK TOO.
10:39:53AM >> I FEEL THE EMOTION BECAUSE IT MEANS SOMETHING TO
EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM.

ALL OF YOU AS WELL.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF US GETTING TOGETHER.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU MADE SOME REALLY GOOD STATEMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I'M HERE TO ASK SOME REASONABLE QUESTIONS.
PROPOSED A SOLUTION.
ECHO MIRANDA, I'M NOT HERE TO BLAME THE GOVERNMENT BUT TO
HELP SOLVE SOME ISSUES.
THE WAY YOU TOUCH YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU HAVE TO DO IT ONE
NEIGHBORHOOD AT A TIME.
I'M IN FLOOD ZONE X, SAME AS LIZ.
THERE ARE A LOT OF NEGATIVES.
BUT ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, I LIKE TO MENTION SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
MY 10-YEAR-OLD SON WAS LAYING TILE YESTERDAY WITH THE TILE
GUY.
HARD DAY'S WORTH OF WORK, LET'S PUT SOME WORK IN.
NOT THE WHOLE DAY BUT A COUPLE OF HOURS.
AT LEAST TOOK THAT PERSPECTIVE AWAY.
IF YOU DON'T STAND FOR SOMETHING, YOU STAND FOR NOTHING.
I'M HERE TO STAND FOR THE AZEELE, HORATIO NEIGHBORHOOD, THE
EXACT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LIZ POINTED OUT.
I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
WE GOT TO REDO THE STORMWATER PLAN.
SUPER IMPORTANT.

IT FAILED.
I THINK WE'RE ALL HERE FOR THE SAME REASON.
SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, WHATEVER STATEMENTS ON RECORD, HAVE
WE CONCLUDED WHY THIS HAPPENED IN FLOOD ZONE X?
FLOOD ZONES WERE DEFINED FOR A REASON.
IS THERE DATA SUPPORTING AN ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE OR LACK
THEREOF?
I BELIEVE IT SOUNDS LIKE A HIGH PRIORITY.
I WANT TO HAVE MEANINGFUL FOLLOW-UP.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND WALK OUT THE DOOR.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO.
I'M ALSO AN EMPLOYER.
I UNDERSTAND BALANCING THE RESOURCES.
WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO SOLVE THE ISSUE.
THIS IS A COMPLICATED PROBLEM.
IF I COULD MAKE A REQUEST, AT LEAST STARTING WITH AN
INVESTIGATION INTO THE STORMWATER PLAN, INTO THE PALMA CEIA,
ARRAWANA, HORATIO NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU.
10:41:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE, THE FIRST NAME IS SPELLED TIGE.
SEAL SCOTT IS WHAT I SEE AS THE LAST NAME.
DON'T SEE THAT PERSON HERE.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND MS. POYNOR.

10:42:41AM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
I'LL SPEAK ON ONE ASPECT OF WHAT HAPPENED.
MY NEIGHBORHOOD GOT HIT PRETTY HARD.
WE HAD A LOT OF TREES DOWN.
MY NEIGHBORS, PLENTY OF THEM LOST POWER FOR EIGHT DAYS.
I'VE GOT PICTURES HERE THAT SHOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU CAN SEE THE MASSIVE TREES THAT WENT DOWN AND WHY THEY
WERE WITHOUT POWER.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE
LOOKING AT.
I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE TREES THAT DIDN'T GO DOWN.
WE HAD ON THIS BLOCK, TWO TREES THAT WENT DOWN.
AND THEY LOST POWER FOR EIGHT DAYS.
THERE WERE 15 OAK TREES THAT DID NOT GO DOWN.
I WANT TO SAY TO PEOPLE, WHEN THEY SEE AN OAK TREE THAT WENT
DOWN, STAND THERE AND LOOK AROUND AT ALL THE OAK TREES THAT
DIDN'T.
THIS IS FROM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
IT SAYS IN LIGHT OF RECENT HURRICANES, ONE OF THE BEST
THINGS YOU CAN DO IS PLANT TREES THAT CAN WITHSTAND
HURRICANE FORCE WINDS.
RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY UF SAND LIVE OAKS ARE THE MOST
RESISTANT TO WIND DAMAGE.
OTHER GOOD CHOICES, SOUTHERN MAGNOLIA, LIVE OAK, POOR
CHOICES ARE WATER OAKS AND LAUREL OAKS.

SAND LIVE OAKS.
TREES THAT CAN WITHSTAND HURRICANES.
I'VE BEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA ALL DAY LONG FOR I DON'T EVEN KNOW
HOW LONG.
THE TREES THAT I SAW TALK ABOUT THE CAUSE, DAMAGE TO
PEOPLE'S HOME IN ADDITION TO OAK TREES, MAGNOLIAS, CYPRESS,
PINES, AVOCADO, MANGOS.
MY PODOCARPUS LANDED ON MY NEIGHBOR'S ROOF.
I DIDN'T BRING THE VIDEO OF MY STREET.
MY STREET WAS A RIVER.
I WAS LUCKY.
I'M ON PIERS, THE WAY FEMA SAYS IS THE GOLD STANDARD SO
WATER CAN FLOW UNDERNEATH MY HOUSE.
I'M ON PIERS.
DIDN'T HAVE WATER ON MY STREET.
WHAT YOU DIDN'T SEE IN THAT VIDEO WAS THE WATER THAT DIDN'T
GO DOWN MY STREET BECAUSE OF THE GIANT OAK TREE NEXT DOOR.
THIS OAK TREE IS MASSIVE.
THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THAT OAK TREE PREVENTED FROM GOING
DOWN MY STREET IS WHAT YOU DON'T SEE.
IN SANTA MONICA, RAINFALL INTERCEPTION, DONE BY THE -- THIS
IS ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL URBAN FOREST.
A 22-INCH TREE, 22 INCHES, THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING A
GRAND TREE IN TAMPA, ALMOST 80% INTERCEPTION.
TREES ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

THE METEOROLOGIST SAID WE HAD MORE HURRICANES IN THE LAST
EIGHT YEARS THAN WE HAD IN 57 MAJOR HURRICANES IN 57 YEARS
PRIOR.
THIS IS THE NEW REALITY.
TREES ARE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT PERFECT.
I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE LOST POWER BECAUSE OF THEM BUT WE NEED
TO UNDERSTAND AND REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE ONE OF THE PIECES
OF THE PUZZLE FOR MITIGATING CLIMATE CHANGE AND THEY ARE
SOMETHING WE CANNOT SUDDENLY CONDEMN BECAUSE OF THE THINGS
WE SAW AND THE THINGS WE DIDN'T SEE.
10:45:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
STEPHANIE POYNOR IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
MEGAN PUTZIG IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
YOU ARE AFTER MS. POYNOR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:46:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE STAFF.
I HAVE TALKED TO PROBABLY EVERYBODY IN EVERY DEPARTMENT.
I AM SENDING TEXT IMAGES.
I PULLED BRAD BAIRD FROM A PRESS CONFERENCE.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY.
ANYWAY, I THINK CHARLIE SAID WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY WE
LIVE AND THE WAY WE BUILD.

WE NEED TO START BY MOVING THE STORMWATER CONSIDERATION TO
THE LAND USE PROCESS.
THAT SHOULD START TOMORROW.
THAT SHOULD NOT WAIT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY COME TO YOU
WITH A LAND USE CHANGE, WE TAKE NO CONSIDERATION FOR
STORMWATER, ESPECIALLY IN THE CHAA.
YOU KNOW, I JUST LEARNED YESTERDAY THE STORMWATER EXPERT FOR
THE CITY OF TAMPA'S NAME.
I THINK IT IS DAVE JENNINGS.
I WROTE IT ON MY HAND BUT THEN TOOK A SHOWER.
I NEVER HEARD THAT GUY'S NAME BEFORE.
NEVER SEEN HIM HERE BEFORE AND HE IS THE GUY WHO DOES THE
CONSTRUCTION PART OF IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF HIM.
[ LAUGHTER ]
LOOKING FOR FEMA'S BEST PRACTICES IN UPDATING THE CODE.
I WANT US TO LOOK AT THE CODE.
THIS IS PART OF THE CHAA STUDY DID FOR PALMETTO BEACH AND
SOG.
WAIT, THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS OF THE CITY THAT TOOK SOME OF
THE HARDEST HITS.
IT'S DONE.
BUT WE LOST HALF OF OUR LAND USE DEPARTMENT IN THE LAST SIX
MONTHS.
SO WE CAN'T GET IT TO YOU.

SO WE NEED TO TAKE THOSE BEST PRACTICES THAT ARE A PART OF
THAT $500,000 STUDY AND PUT THEM TO WORK IMMEDIATELY.
WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE MONEY TO DO THIS?
NOT OUT OF MY TAX POCKETBOOK.
WE NEED TO LEAVE THE $26 MILLION THAT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA
FOR THAT RIVERWALK FOR AND REEL IT BACK IN AND SPEND IT ON A
NEED, NOT A WANT.
THAT IS LIKE GOING OUT AND BUYING A NEW CAR WHEN YOUR ROOF
HAS GOT A HOLE IN IT.
WE'VE GOT A ROOF WITH A HOLE IN IT AND SOMEBODY A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AGO THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA TO BUY A NEW CAR.
TAKE IT BACK.
I'LL TELL YOU ALL LIKE I TELL MY KIDS, TAKE IT BACK BECAUSE
I AM NOT BUYING YOU YOUR NEEDS IF YOU WASTED YOUR MONEY ON
YOUR WANTS.
YOU CANNOT DO THAT.
TAKE IT BACK.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
IT'S NOT COMPLETELY DONE YET BECAUSE YOU AS A CRA BOARD HAVE
NOT APPROVED THE MONEY FROM THE WEST TAMPA CAC OR THE CRA.
IT'S NOT FUNDED YET.
YOU CAN TAKE IT BACK AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY
VIOLATIONS BECAUSE IF THE CITY ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT ON
IT, THEY HAVE A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T APPROVE IT.
GADSDEN PARK IS A BRUSH SITE.

THIS RIVERWALK -- OH, OH, OH!
I ALMOST FORGOT.
LET'S PUT THE CAP ON THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND BRING THAT MONEY
BACK INTO THE FOLD OF THE GENERAL FUND SO WE CAN USE IT FOR
THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS BEYOND IMPORTANT.
THIS HAS REACHED OUT TO EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY CORNER OF OUR
CITY.
WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO CONSOLIDATE INTO SEPARATE AREAS AND
TREAT ONE AREA DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER.
WE HAVE TO BE CITYWIDE.
10:49:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MEGAN IS THE NEXT SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY BRIAN QUINN AND PAULA
MACKLEY.
10:49:33AM >> MEGAN PUTZIG.
I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF
AUDUBON AND ARRAWANA TOWNHOMES DEVASTATED BY THE
CATASTROPHIC IMPACT OF HURRICANE MILTON.
OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN TURNED UPSIDE DOWN.
WE HAVE LOST EVERYTHING ON OUR FIRST FLOORS.
PERSONAL ITEMS, DOORS, DRYWALL, FLOODING, APPLIANCES, AND
HOT WATER SYSTEMS DUE TO OVER TWO FEET OF WATER ENTERING OUR
HOMES.
OUR ELDERLY NEIGHBORS ARE NOW SLEEPING IN HOMES SATURATED

WITH BLEACH, BATTLING MOLD AND FEELING ABANDONED AS THEY
HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO SEEK REFUGE ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS IN
THE COMMUNITY.
ESTIMATED DAMAGES FOR EACH FAMILY REACHES UPWARDS OF $50,000
BUT THE TRUE COST IS FAR GREATER.
IT IS THE EMOTIONAL TOLL, THE UNCERTAINTY AND PROFOUND SENSE
OF NEGLECT FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
FOR YEARS, WE HAVE BROUGHT ABOUT OUR CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE
AND FLOODING TO YOUR ATTENTION, YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
IT WAS STATED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER THIS MORNING, THEY DIDN'T
KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM UNTIL IT PRESENTED ITSELF.
THAT IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER INSULT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND YOU HAVE YET TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH A SOLUTION.
DESPITE OUR PLEAS, THE CITY CONTINUES TO ALLOW NEW
DEVELOPMENTS, RAISING THE ELEVATION OF HOMES AND DIRECTING
MORE WATER TOWARD OUR ALREADY VULNERABLE PROPERTIES.
THIS ONGOING NEGLECT IS NOT JUST AN OVERSIGHT, IT IS A
CRISIS THAT THREATENS THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO STOP PUSHING THE ISSUE ASIDE.
WE DEMAND IMMEDIATE ACTION.
DESIGN IN PUBLIC INPUT PROJECT TO ADDRESS THE CRITICAL
DRAINAGE AND FLOODING CONCERNS.
THE DEVASTATION WE ARE EXPERIENCING IS IMMENSE AND WE CAN NO
LONGER BEAR THE BURDEN OF AN ACTION.

PLEASE DO NOT LET OUR STRUGGLES BE FORGOTTEN.
WE DESERVE A SOLUTION AND WE NEED YOUR LEADERSHIP NOW MORE
THAN EVER.
THANK YOU.
10:51:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BRIAN QUINN AND PAULA MACKLEY.
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:51:35AM >> BRIAN QUINN.
I WANT TO FIRST THANK THE CITY, THANK THE POLICE, THANK THE
FIRST RESPONDERS, THANK ALL OF YOU.
I REALIZE THAT WE ARE ALL UNDER INCREDIBLE PRESSURE HERE.
I LIVE AT 2701 WEST HORATIO STREET TAMPA FLORIDA, 33609.
WANT TO START WITH A QUESTION.
ON THE COUNCIL, WHO IS AWARE OF THE FLOOD PROBLEM IN THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED?
33609.
IT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT TWO OR THREE OF OUR FOLKS --
WHO IS AWARE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD?
ALL OF YOU.
I'M SORRY.
I HAVEN'T SENT A SINGLE E-MAIL.
10:52:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS IT?
10:52:22AM >> 33609, PALMA CEIA, HYDE PARK.
SWANN.
10:52:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.

10:52:28AM >> THE REASON I ASK IS I WORK BIG PROBLEMS ALL THE TIME AS
DO YOU.
THIS PROBLEM EXISTED FOR 20 YEARS.
FOR 20 YEARS.
I WANT TO BE EMPATHETIC.
WHY IS HE CLAPPING?
FOR THE SAME REASON THEY WERE CLAPPING WHEN TALKING ABOUT
THE THINGS ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:52:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING, SIR.
GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE TO TALK.
10:52:55AM >> IF YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM FOR 20 YEARS, THIS WAS A
SUPER STORM.
NOBODY WANTED IT TO COME.
HUNDRED YEARS, 355, HUNDRED, THOUSAND, CALL IT WHATEVER YOU
WANT WHEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM FOR 20 YEARS, UNCONSCIONABLE
NOT TO FIX IT.
SIMILAR TO THE WOMAN THAT ALREADY SPOKE, LIZ, I BOUGHT A
HOME IN X ON PURPOSE.
I MOVED FROM AN A AND A B AND C TO AN X ON PURPOSE BECAUSE I
KNEW WHAT WAS CHANGING IN THE CLIMATE AND THAT WE LIVE IN A
PENINSULA STATE.
I HAD A LENDER THAT COUNTED AND A TITLE INSURANCE COMPANY
THAT COUNTED ON THE EVACUATION ZONES AND THE FLOOD PAPERWORK
TO GUIDE ME ABOUT WHAT WAS THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT MY FAMILY
AND MY THINGS.

AND I DID THAT.
I'VE HAD FLOOD INSURANCE BEFORE.
I WAS GUIDED NOT TO HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE BECAUSE I WAS IN X.
THEN I DIDN'T EVACUATE BECAUSE I WASN'T IN AN EVACUATION
ZONE.
WHAT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE TO ME IS THE 20-YEAR PIECE.
THAT IS THE LONG-TERM PROBLEM.
HOW COULD THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR 20 YEARS AND NEVER BE
ADDRESSED?
MEDIUM TERM PROGRAM.
I WON'T SHOW YOU THE VIDEO I WAS GOING TO.
DIDN'T REALIZE MY SON WAS CURSING IN IT.
SEPTEMBER 4, HE IS HOME ALONE.
WE HAD A RAIN EVENT.
THAT WHOLE AREA FLOODED.
SIX WEEKS AGO WE KNEW WE HAD A HUGE PROBLEM THERE.
WHATEVER WAS PUT IN THERE WASN'T WORKING.
THAT WAS A NORMAL JUST RAINSTORM.
BEEN CONSTRUCTION ON STORM.
CONSTRUCTION ON ARMENIA, A COUPLE OF THE ROADS.
I ASSUMED IT WAS SOMETHING WITH THE DRAINS BECAUSE THEY WERE
PAVING THE ROADS.
20 YEARS KNEW ABOUT IT.
4th A PROBLEM.
28th PROBLEM.

11th YOU HAVE A CATASTROPHE.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE
RULES AND PAY YOUR TAXES AND GET YOUR INSURANCE AND TRY AND
MOVE TO A PLACE THAT IS SAFER AND THEN YOU STILL SORT OF GET
SCREWED UP HERE, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IN THIS CASE WE WERE LET
DOWN.
WHEREVER YOU THINK YOU CAN HELP US, WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:55:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:55:09AM >> THANKS.
10:55:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PAULA MACKLEY IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
[ APPLAUSE ]
FOLLOWED BY YVONNE FERRELLI AND TINA ADAMS.
GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:55:19AM >> PAULA MACKLEY.
I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR MY NEIGHBORS.
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALL AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK VIERA SAID IT AND I KNOW MR. MIRANDA SAID IT AND
SEVERAL OF YOU BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SAID THAT WE'VE GOT TO
LOOK AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE'VE GOT TO STOP ADDING
DENSITY WHERE WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE
WE DO THIS.
IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE
WE KEEP ADDING DENSITY.
I DO WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ANSWERING THE PHONES

FOR THE CITY.
WE HAD SOME MAJOR ISSUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL ON THE PHONE.
THE CREWS THAT CAME OUT, ONE FROM JACKSONVILLE IN MY FRONT
YARD YESTERDAY.
THEY WERE AMAZING.
THEY ARE HERE FOR THE LONG HAUL AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING
THEM HERE.
BUT MY MAIN REASON FOR BEING HERE TODAY IS TO SPEAK TO ITEM
47 ON THE AGENDA AND THAT WE HOPE YOU PUSH THIS NEW
CONSTRUCTION THAT'S BEING, AGAIN, IN A HIGH HAZARD AREA
WHICH WE KNOW WE SHOULD NOT BE ADDING TO DENSITY TO HIGH
HAZARD AREAS, THAT YOU PUSH THE HEARING TO JANUARY TO GIVE
OUR COMMUNITY TIME TO RECOVER FROM THESE DISASTERS.
ITEM 47, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER MOVING THAT TO JANUARY, WE
WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
10:56:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YVONNE FERRELLI, TINA ADAMS, DAVID ADAMS.
YES, MA'AM.
GOOD MORNING.
10:56:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I HAVE A HANDOUT.
10:56:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER COPY
THERE IF YOU WANT TO SHOW IT.

IF YOU DON'T, IT'S OKAY.
10:57:00AM >> DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
SORRY.
YVONNE FERRELLI.
LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE, ESPECIALLY
DURING THESE VERY TRYING TIMES.
I'VE BEEN ASKED TO SPEAK AND GIVE A STATEMENT FROM THE
PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
DEAR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC
CLUB BOARD WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE OUR POSITION ON THE SOUTH
HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
WE STRONGLY ENDORSE A REASONABLE FLOOD RELIEF SOLUTION TO
THE TERRIBLE FLOODING THAT IS OCCURRING IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS EXPERIENCED DEVASTATING FLOODING
DAMAGE WITH HURRICANE MILTON AND JUSTIFIABLY DEMANDING A
SOLUTION.
WE SUPPORT A DESIGN AND PUBLIC INPUT PROJECT RATHER THAN THE
CURRENT PROPOSED SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT WHICH
DOES NOT INCLUDE PUBLIC INPUT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:58:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
[ APPLAUSE ]
TINA ADAMS, DAVID ADAMS, RYAN HAYES.

GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:58:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS TINA ADAMS.
I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
FOR THE RECORD, I AM NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARKLAND
ESTATES CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
MY HOME FLOODED.
FOUR FEET OF DRYWALL HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RIPPING UP THE FLOORS.
WE'VE LIVED IN THIS HOME FOR 25 YEARS.
RAISED THREE CHILDREN IN THIS HOME.
LOVINGLY RESTORED.
ONE OF THE OLDER HOMES.
DID EVERYTHING TO PROTECT IT.
STORM SHUTTERS, SANDBAGS, EVERYTHING.
BUT WE COULDN'T PROTECT IT FROM THE CITY'S FAILURE FOR THE
STORMWATER.
[ APPLAUSE ]
AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
WE HAD SEWAGE AND STORMWATER THAT FLOODED.
IT WASN'T THE HURRICANE THAT GOT US.
IT WAS THE STORMWATER SYSTEM AND THE SEWAGE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WE ARE 17 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.

WE ARE IN FLOOD ZONE X.
WE ARE IN EVACUATION ZONE C.
WE SHOULD NOT FLOOD.
THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
WE HAVE HAD OVER TEN FLOOD EVENTS SINCE JUNE.
NONE THIS SEVERE, BUT LOTS OF DAMAGE.
THE CAUSE OF THE FLOODING IS A STORM SYSTEM THAT HAS NOT
BEEN UPDATED.
YOU HAVE COLLECTED TAXES.
I'M TIRED OF STUDIES.
I'M TIRED OF ALL OF IT.
WE NEED AN EMERGENCY SYSTEM TO LOOK AT THE FLOODING.
MY AREA WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE.
OBVIOUSLY, AROUND US, AUDUBON, ALL THOSE AREAS, FOREST
HILLS, WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOW WE'RE HANDLING OUR
STORMWATER.
IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I'M BEGGING YOU TO MAKE AN EMERGENCY PROVISION.
DO SOMETHING.
SOMETHING EFFECTIVE TO HELP US FEEL SAFE IN OUR HOMES AGAIN.
NO ONE SHOULD FEEL ANXIOUS AND AFRAID EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
NO ONE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
PLEASE GIVE THE ENGINEERS EVERY TOOL THEY HAVE TO SOLVE THIS

PROBLEM.
DO NOT MAKE EXCLUSIONS.
DO NOT HAVE SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR PEOPLE OR PLACES.
PLEASE GIVE THEM EVERY SOURCE, EVERY TOOL TO FIND A
SOLUTION, AN EFFECTIVE SOLUTION TO MAKE OUR HOMES SAFE
AGAIN.
THANK YOU.
11:01:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE DAVID ADAMS, RYAN HAYES, AND GARRETT KULCQYCKI.
11:01:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
DAVID ADAMS.
I LIVE WITH TINA.
ALSO MET WITH LIZ.
THEY ARE ALSO IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
BEFORE I CAME HERE TODAY, I WAS PRYING UP WATER SOAKED
LAMINATE FROM MY KITCHEN FLOOR.
WASN'T JUST WATER AS TINA SAID.
IT WAS SEWER BECAUSE THE SEWAGE SYSTEM FAILED.
VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR OF MY HOUSE HAS BEEN
DESTROYED.
CHAIRS, COUCHES, TABLES, TELEVISIONS, CARPETS, YOU NAME IT.
MY ENTIRE KITCHEN HAS BEEN RIPPED OUT.
CABINETS, COUNTER TOPS, STOVE, REFRIGERATOR, DISHWATER,
FLOOR.
ORIGINAL PLASTER AND THE DRYWALL, AS TINA SAID, HAS BEEN

REMOVED FROM THE STUDS.
THE HOUSE IS A DISASTER.
WE CAN'T LIVE IN IT.
IT STINKS OF MOLD AND MILDEW.
ESTIMATE TO REPAIR IT IS ALMOST $200,000.
IT'S NOT JUST ME.
ROUND NUMBERS, 30 PEOPLE HAVE FLOODED IN PARKLAND ESTATES
AND MANY DON'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE AND FOR GOOD REASON AS
YOU'VE HEARD TODAY.
WE'RE ALL IN FLOOD ZONE X.
ACCORDING TO FEMA, THE FLOOD ZONE X HAS A PROBABILITY OF .2
OR ONE IN 500 CHANCES OF FLOODING.
BUT THE CITY HAS CHANGED THE ODDS.
FOR NINE YEARS, TAMPA HAS KNOWN THIS IS AN AREA OF HIGH
URBAN FLOODING.
REPORTS IN PARKLAND ESTATES WERE GENERATED IN 2017, 2018,
2019, 2020, 2021, AND THE LATEST ONE IS APRIL OF 2022.
ALL OF THE REPORTS ARE UNANIMOUS.
WE NEED A STORMWATER SYSTEM.
YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
NOW WE HAVE 30 HOMES WITH $200,000 OF DAMAGE WHICH TOTALS UP
TO ABOUT $6 MILLION, NOT INCLUDING ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU
HEARD TODAY.
FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS CITY
COUNCIL WOULD IMPOSE SUCH MISERY ON THEIR CITIZENS.

WORSE YET, EVEN IF WE REPAIR OUR HOMES, WHO IS TO SAY THEY
ARE NOT GOING TO FLOOD NEXT YEAR?
AS ALBERT EINSTEIN ONCE SAID, INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME
THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS.
ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS ISN'T GOING TO GO INSANE, THEY ARE
APPLYING FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT.
THEY ARE TEARING DOWN THEIR HOME.
THEIR MORTGAGE WON'T GO AWAY.
WE CAN'T CHANGE THE ELEVATIONS OF OUR HOMES AND THE
STORMWATER DEPARTMENT KNOWS THAT.
SO THEY PASSED THIS SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF DISTRICT
PROJECT.
AND THE REPORT WAS DATED APRIL OF 2022.
IT'S OCTOBER 2024.
IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
THE CITY HAS DONE THIS TO US BY REPEATEDLY FAILING TO FUND
THIS PROJECT.
WE CAN'T CHANGE HISTORY.
THE DAMAGE IS DONE.
BUT YOU CAN MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
AS TINA SAID, YOU SHOULD AUTHORIZE AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT
TO COMMENCE THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
PLEASE COMPLETE THIS PROJECT SO WE DON'T FLOOD AGAIN.
THIS IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
THIS IS YOUR DUTY.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:04:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
NEXT IS RYAN HAYES, GARRETT, AND STEVE MICHELINI.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:04:47AM >> RYAN HAYES.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMEN AND COUNCILMEN.
THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING AND SITTING IN THE UNCOMFORTABLE
SEATS.
AS OF RIGHT NOW WE CAN ALL FEEL THE HEAT.
BEEN COMING HERE THE LAST FIVE TO SIX MONTHS TALKING ON
BEHALF OF -- DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH IN DEPTH.
NOW TIME FOR EACH ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS TO POSSIBLY REACH
OUT TO US AND SEE HOW WE CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PROACTIVE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
HAPPENING IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH THE FLOOD ON THE COMMUNITY
BEHALF.
AS AWARE, THERE IS A LOT OF MOLD AND A LOT OF APARTMENT
COMPLEXES HAVE BEEN DESTRUCTED BY THESE TWO HURRICANES.
I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR HEALTH INSPECTORS AND OTHER
REGULATORY INDIVIDUALS TO ASSESS THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE
GOING TO BE REBUILT SO FUTURE GENERATIONS AND FAMILIES THAT
MOVE INTO THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND DWELLINGS DON'T GET
SICK WITH MOLD.
ALREADY A FIRM WHERE I LIVE, CAPTIVA APARTMENTS IN TOWN N'
COUNTRY IS DOING SPECULATIVE THINGS.

AND ALSO LIKE TO ASK, WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE TOWN
N' COUNTRY 33 --
11:05:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.
IT IS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
I CAN CONNECT YOU WITH A COUNTY COMMISSIONER.
11:05:59AM >> I GRACIOUSLY APPRECIATE THAT.
IF THE CITY CAN COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE AND INNOVATING
WAYS TO POSSIBLY HAVE AN ESCROW ACCOUNT TO REALLOCATE FUNDS,
POSSIBLY SALES TICKETS WHEN THERE IS A FOOTBALL GAME,
BASEBALL GAME, POSSIBLY DIFFERENT THINGS SO WE DON'T HEAR
THAT THERE'S NO MONEY AND THERE'S NO ALLOCATION FOR PEOPLE
TO TRY AND BE PUT -- I KNOW THEY WON'T BE PUT BACK WHOLE,
BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE CREATIVITY AND GOING OVER AND BEYOND,
TRY TO HELP THE PUBLIC.
I'M AN INDIVIDUAL.
I KNOW I DON'T LOOK LIKE IT ON THE EXTERNAL, BUT I DO
REPRESENT THE IMPAIRED COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SUFFERING.
I'M PRETTY SURE ALL OF YOU HAD EITHER SEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA
OR DRIVEN AROUND IN YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND SEEN PEOPLE'S
PERSONAL POSSESSIONS SITTING OUTSIDE.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PHYSICAL.
YOU'RE NOT REALLY SEEING WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRULY
INTERNALIZING.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY PUT IN BAD

SITUATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUT IN A HORRIBLE SITUATION.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT OVERALL MENTAL HEALTH.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T TAKE THIS TYPE OF
PRESSURE.
PEOPLE HOLDING ON FOR DEAR LONG JUST PAYING RENT, UTILITIES,
INSURANCE AND SO FORTH, FOOD, THIS HAS UPROOTED INDIVIDUALS.
JUST TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMPASSION WHEN YOU LEAVE THESE
SEATS, JUST TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE NOT CURRENTLY
ADDRESSING AND SEEING.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HOPE YOU ALL CAN ADVOCATE FOR
NON-CHECKED BOX AGENCIES TO HELP AND ASSIST THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, GOVERNMENT AFFILIATES THAT JUST CHECK
BOXES TO CONSTANTLY GET REGULATORY GRANTS AND DONATIONS AND
SO FORTH.
TALKING ABOUT SOME REAL GRASSROOT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
THAT KNOW PEOPLE AND THAT CAN GENUINELY HELP THEM INSTEAD OF
PASSING IT OFF AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ALLOCATED
SOMETHING.
I'M SPEAKING FROM THE HEART, AND I DO HOPE THIS IS BEING
RESONATED.
MR. BILL CARLSON, I GRACIOUSLY APPRECIATE YOU STANDING UP
AND SPEAKING FIRSTHANDEDLY ABOUT THE PUBLIC SPEAKING FIRST.
WHEN I CAME HERE OCTOBER 8, I PAID $13.50 FOR PARKING AND
THEN GOT HIT WITH A $30 PARKING METER FOR LETTING BUSINESSES
AND THE MILITARY COME OVER HERE AND SPEAK BEFORE THE PUBLIC.

AS WE'RE AWARE, WHEN WE SEE THAT CHAIN OF COMMAND, SEE WHERE
THE MAYOR IS AND WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE SITS.
WHO SITS OVER THE MAYOR IS THE PUBLIC.
THE PUBLIC TRULY NEEDS TO SPEAK FIRST SO ALL THESE DELEGATES
CAN SIT IN HERE AND LISTEN TO US BECAUSE WHEN THEY ARE DONE
THEY GET UP OUT OF HERE.
THAT NEEDS TO BE A STANDARD.
LIKE THE PUBLIC SPEAKS FIRST.
I'M OVER HERE PAYING $7 FOR PARKING.
WE ALL ARE.
WE NEED TO SPEAK FIRST.
WE'RE HOLDING ON TO OUR PENNIES.
I GRACIOUSLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
CAIRO AND FRIENDS.
PRESIDENT OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, CAIRO AND FRIENDS,
813-323-1040, ANYBODY THAT HAS BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY
EITHER ONE OF THE HURRICANES, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US AND
WE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP OUT WITH SOME TYPE OF DONATION,
CLOTHES, TOYS, SOMETHING TO GET YOU THROUGH.
WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING, PEOPLE GOING TO SALVATION ARMY,
GOODWILL, IF THEY ARE NOT WITHIN THAT ZIP CODE, THEY ARE
TELLING THEM GO ELSEWHERE.
THAT'S CONSIDERED SEGREGATION AT THIS POINT.
I WANT TO HIGHLY STATE THIS, IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING GOING
TO BE MATERIALIZED OR REACHED OUT, I THINK IT WILL BE

ERRONEOUS DECISION THAT WILL BE MADE.
I GRACIOUSLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
11:09:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
GARRETT IS THE NEXT SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY STEVE MICHELINI AND
KEN WISE.
11:09:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CAPTAIN GARRETT KULCQYCKI, UNITED STATES NAVY.
I'M A U.S. NAVY SEAL STATIONED AT HEADQUARTERS ON MACDILL
AIR FORCE BASE.
HERE A PERSONAL CAPACITY.
MY WIFE AND I WERE MOVED HERE BY THE MILITARY IN JULY OF
LAST YEAR, 2023 WHO WELCOMED A NEW SON INTO THIS WORLD
FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
ALSO A FLORIDA NATIVE.
GREW UP IN VERO BEACH FLORIDA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STATE
ROAD 60.
MY PARENTS MOVED INTO A HOME IN 1989 ON THE INTERCOASTAL
WATERWAY.
THAT HOUSE IS IN A FLOOD ZONE.
INSURED BY CITIZENS BECAUSE IT'S UNINSURABLE BUT HAD
MULTIPLE MAJOR HURRICANES HIT THEIR TOWN OVER THE YEARS
INCLUDING TWO DIRECT HITS IN 2004 ABOUT TWO WEEKS APART THAT
HAD OVER SEVEN FEET OF STORM SURGE.

THAT HOUSE HAS NEVER HAD AN INCH OF WATER INTRUDE IN THE
HOUSE IN THE ENTIRE 35 YEARS THEY HAVE OWNED IT.
WE RECEIVED ORDERS HERE TO TAMPA.
WE WERE EXCITED.
LOVE THE TAMPA AREA.
VIEW TAMPA AS A PLACE WE'D LIKE TO FINALLY SETTLE DOWN WHEN
DONE WITH THE MILITARY LIFE.
WE SEARCHED HARD.
WE FOUND A HOME THAT WASN'T IN A FLOOD ZONE.
IT WAS EVACUATION ZONE C OR EVACUATION ZONE C, FLOOD ZONE X.
SITS JUST OVER 20 FEET ABOVE THE LOW WATER LINE.
THAT HOUSE AFTER THE RAINS OF MILTON, TWO AND A HALF FEET IN
THE GARAGE, A LITTLE OVER A FOOT OF WATER INSIDE THE HOUSE.
WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE FLOOD DAMAGE, THE FOLKS THAT HAVE
SPOKEN HERE, IT'S PRETTY EASY.
I'VE GOT A DEGREE IN ENGINEERING BUT NOT A PRACTICING
ENGINEER.
YOU LOOK AT HOW IT FLOODED.
THE CITY BASICALLY THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE, CONSTRUCTION,
DEVELOPMENT, CREATED A NICE RETENTION POND THAT WAS OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD AS ALL THIS WATER FLOWS IN.
MY SIMPLE UNDERSTANDING, LACK OF DRAINAGE THAT'S BEEN
HIGHLIGHTED.
ALSO, WE'RE ON A PENINSULA.
PRETTY EASY TO DESIGN WATER FLOW THAT FLOWS FROM A PENINSULA

TO A BAY BARELY OVER A MILE AWAY IN A STRAIGHT LINE FROM MY
HOUSE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I KNOW NOW THIS PROBLEM EXISTED NEARLY A DECADE.
THE COUNCIL HAS KNOWN ABOUT IT AT LEAST NINE YEARS.
OUR STREET APPARENTLY FLOODED IN 2015.
OUR STREET HAD PARTIAL FLOODING THAT CAME HALFWAY UP OUR
DRIVEWAY IN SEPTEMBER WHEN WE GOT SIX INCHES OF RAIN.
NOT A STORM.
I SPENT MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE DEFENDING THE FREEDOMS WE ALL
HOLD DEAR, THAT YOU GUYS HOLD DEAR.
I'M ASKING YOU GUYS OF THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE SOME TIME AND
ACTUALLY DO YOUR JOB AND LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS WE'RE FACING
IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
FIX THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU CREATED THAT'S CAUSED THE
PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE HAD SO I DON'T HAVE TO FEAR GETTING
SENT OFF TO PROTECT YOUR FREEDOM ON A MOMENT'S NOTICE AND
LEAVE A WORKING MOM AND INFANT AT HOME IN A HOUSE TOTALLY
RIPPED APART RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU.
11:12:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
STEVE MICHELINI.
KEN WISE.
CHRISTINA CLEMANTS.

11:12:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE OVERHEAD, YOU'LL SEE THE DEDICATED LINE
WORKERS WORKING AT NIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHAT GOT OUR POWER BACK.
THIS IS A CATASTROPHIC EVENT AND I THINK EVERYONE IN THE
CITY WAS AFFECTED.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS WHO TALKED ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE ENTIRE CITY WAS AFFECTED.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE FROM DAVIS ISLAND TALK ABOUT THE
ENTIRE ISLAND BEING INUNDATED.
THE HOUSES THAT SURVIVE WERE THE ONES THAT MET THE NEW FEMA
REGULATIONS.
THE ASSOCIATES THAT I WORK WITH AND SOME OF THE ASSOCIATIONS
ARE STANDING BY TO ASSIST THE CITY TO WORK ON SOLUTIONS.
I'VE REACHED OUT TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND
GIVEN THEM THE SAME OPPORTUNITY.
THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE.
THIS IS A COMMUNITY ISSUE, AND WE'RE STANDING BY TO HELP,
AND THAT INCLUDES THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.
MY HAT GOES OFF TO THE CITY STAFF FOR WHAT THEY HAVE TRIED
TO DO.
YOU CANNOT CORRECT THE SITUATION THAT IS HISTORIC.
YOU CAN'T CORRECT THE SITUATION THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR MORE
THAN 50 YEARS OR 20 YEARS OVERNIGHT.

YOU CANNOT PLAN FOR A HUNDRED YEAR OR 200 YEAR EVENT.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
MY HAT GOES OFF AND MY SORROW GOES OFF TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
WERE ADVERSELY AFFECTED.
WE'RE SORRY THAT IT HAPPENED.
MY OWN PROPERTY WAS FLOODED, BUT I'M NOT POINTING MY FINGER
AT OTHER PEOPLE AND SAYING IT'S YOUR FAULT THAT THAT
HAPPENED.
ALL OF US HAVE TO GET TOGETHER.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ASSIST IN ANY WAY I CAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
11:14:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
KEN WISE.
CHRISTINA CLEMANTS, DEBRA COLEMAN.
11:14:34AM >> MY NAME IS KEN WISE.
SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
REMEMBER THE HEIGHTS PART.
I HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE TALKING ABOUT FLOODING.
FLOODING, YEAH, IT'S BAD.
REMEMBER THE HEIGHTS PART.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I, YOU KNOW, WASN'T, YOU KNOW, GOING TO
HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH BECAUSE I LIVE IN SEMINOLE
HEIGHTS.
I NOTICE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, THEY ARE THE SOUTH OF KENNEDY
CROWD SO I CAN'T REALLY MUSTER A LOT OF SYMPATHY FOR THEM

BECAUSE THEY MAKE A LOT MORE.
HAVE A LOT MORE ACCUMULATED ASSETS AND A LOT MORE VALUABLE
HOUSES THAN I DO.
WE DID HAVE A WOMAN EARLIER TALK ABOUT TREES.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
THE FLOODING DIDN'T KNOCK THE LIGHTS OUT IN THE WHOLE CITY
OF TAMPA.
TREES DID.
WE HAVE AN OVERGROWN FOREST.
THE OTHER WOMAN BROUGHT UP HOW TREES ARE GOOD.
TREES ARE A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
THEY GO AND COOL THE PLACE, THEY SUCK UP A LOT OF WATER.
THEY FALL DOWN, TAKE OUT POWER.
YOU HAVE A GUY IN CHARGE OF GOING AND KEEPING TREES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I MET THEM ONE TIME WHEN WE WERE TRYING
TO GET A TREE CUT DOWN AND HE WOULDN'T LET US.
WE HAVE ANOTHER GUY THAT'S IN CHARGE OF TRIMMING TREES.
I'M SURE THEY HAVE AN ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP.
YOU NEED TO FIRE THE GUY THAT WANTS TO KEEP THE TREES AND
GIVE HIS MONEY, HIS SALARY, STUFF AND BUDGET TO THE GUY THAT
KNOWS HOW TO TRIM TREES AND LET HIM GO AND GET, BECAUSE IN
MY LITTLE CLUSTER, IN MY DINKY LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN A
QUARTER MILE, TEN HUGE TREES WENT DOWN.
WHAT THEY ALL HAD IN COMMON, THEY WERE WATER OR LAUREL OAKS
LIKE THE OTHER WOMAN MENTIONED.

THEY WERE ALL HOLLOWED OUT.
THEY WERE ALL ROTTEN.
THEY ONLY HAVE 70 YEAR LIFE SPAN.
ALL PAST THE HARVEST DATE.
WHAT YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE A PRIORITY, LOOK, THIS WAS A
CAT 3 THAT HIT AS A CAT 3, 70 MILES FROM HERE.
IF IT WAS A CAT 4, HEAVEN FORBID A CAT 5 THAT HIT, DIRECT
HIT, WE'D HAVE MET A LOT MORE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE DAMAGE.
IN FACT, POWER WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE OUT RIGHT NOW.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS MAKE A PRIORITY OF HARVESTING BACK
THE OLD AND SICK TREES.
ALLOW PEOPLE ON THEIR OWN DIME, ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY TO
TAKE THE TREES DOWN.
GET THE GUY THAT'S IN CHARGE OF KEEPING THEM TRIMMED.
GIVE HIM MORE MONEY AND LET HIM PICK THE ONES ON THE
PROPERTY TO GET RID OF AND THEN PLANT MORE TREES.
11:17:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
CHRISTINA CLEMANTS, DEBRA COLEMAN, MILTON ESPINOSA.
IS CHRISTINA CLEMONS HERE?
I SEE NO.
DEBRA COLEMAN.
11:18:01AM >> DEBRA COLEMAN.
11:18:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:18:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS DEBRA COLEMAN.
I AM A RESIDENT OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
ON OCTOBER 9, HURRICANE MILTON CAME THROUGH AND FLOODED MY
HOME.
WE HAD 18 -- SORRY, 15 TO 18 INCHES OF WATER INTRUSION.
I LIVE IN FLOOD ZONE X.
I AM IN EVACUATION ZONE C.
I WANT THAT TO REALLY RESONATE WITH YOU ALL.
THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE HOME HERE.
THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT EVACUATED TO THIS AREA TO REMAIN SAFE
DURING THIS STORM.
WE HAD 15 TO 18 INCHES OF WATER INTRUSION.
WE HAVE LOST OUR WHOLE FIRST FLOOR OF OUR HOME.
MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE LOST THEIR ENTIRE HOMES.
WE DID NOT HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE.
ALL OF OUR WATER REMEDIATION WILL COME DIRECTLY OUT OF
POCKET.
NOW, WE HAVE HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE TODAY DISCUSS THAT THIS
PROBLEM HAS BEEN -- THIS STORM DRAIN ISSUE HAS BEEN A
PROBLEM, POTENTIALLY FOR 10, 20 YEARS.
WE CAN CALL THIS A HUNDRED-YEAR STORM, BUT THE FLOODING THAT
OCCURRED DURING THIS STORM IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT HAPPENED
WHEN THE BAY WAS FOUR FEET BELOW PREDICTED WATER LEVELS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
THAT, ALONG WITH GRAVITY SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED STORM DRAINS TO

EMPTY TO THE BAY.
SO WHAT HAPPENED?
WHAT'S GOING ON?
IS THERE AN OBSTRUCTION IN THE STORM DRAINS?
OR IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE NOT APPROPRIATE TO DRAIN FIVE
INCHES OF RAINWATER?
HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO BUILD IN THIS AREA IF IT'S NOT
APPROPRIATE TO HANDLE FIVE INCHES OF RAINWATER?
I CAME HERE TODAY TO ASK THAT YOU ALL ADDRESS THIS
IMMEDIATELY.
THERE IS NO MORE 10, 20 YEARS TO SIT AND INVESTIGATE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
LIKE, LET'S GET SOMEONE DOWN THERE IN THE DRAINS TO FIGURE
OUT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING AND THEN LET'S START A SOLUTION.
IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD OR WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OUT.
YOU WANT TO BUILD TAMPA BAY, FIX THIS.
THIS IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE.
YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WE NEED THIS TO STAY.
11:21:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:20AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:21:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT IS MILTON ESPINOSA, ROBIN LOCKETT,
METESNOT.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:21:32AM >> MY NAME IS MILTON ESPINOSA.
I'M HERE TO DISCUSS AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH MY RENTAL
PROPERTY.
I RESIDE IN PASCO COUNTY.
I AM HERE TO ADDRESS ONGOING ISSUES WITH MY RENTAL PROPERTY
MANAGED BY A COMPANY THAT IS NOT EVEN BASED IN FLORIDA.
ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE AN OFFICE IN TAMPA, DURING THE INITIAL
WALK-THROUGH I MADE CONCERNS ABOUT WATER DAMAGE UNDER THE
FLOORBOARDS AND AROUND THE BASE BUT ASSURED ME THERE WAS NO
PROBLEM.
LATER DISCOVERED IT WAS INDEED A PROBLEM.
THE WATER DAMAGED FLOOR WAS CAUSED BY A PLUMBING ISSUE,
SPECIFICALLY IN THE MIDDLE ROOM WHICH WOULD OVERFLOW AND
THEN WHEN IT RAINED IT ALLOWED WATER TO POUR INTO THE HOUSE
EXACTLY WHERE THE WATER DAMAGED FLOORS WERE QUESTIONED.
THIS MAY HAVE EXACERBATED THE MOLD IN THE FLOORBOARDS WHICH
WAS ALREADY POSSIBLY THERE TO BEGIN WITH.
ALSO, ADDITIONALLY, MINE CLAIMED THEY FIXED OR REPAIRED
LEAKS IN THE ROOF BUT LEAKS PERSISTED CAUSING MORE MOLD.
DESPITE AWARE OF THE ISSUES PRIOR TO MY COMPLAINTS, MINE IS
NOW DEMANDING BACK PAY FOR RENT REDUCTION THAT RESULTED FROM
AN ADMINISTRATIVE ERROR ON THEIR END.
I HAVE RECEIVED MULTIPLE EVICTION LETTERS FROM MIND WHICH I
HAVE BEEN ADVISED TO IGNORE WHILE WE FIGURE OUT THE PAYMENT
SITUATION.

I HAVE REPOSTED -- I REPORTED THE PEOPLE TO THE BBB -- AND
CODE ENFORCEMENT.
MINIMAL STANDARD LIVING TOLD ME HURRICANE VICTIMS TAKE
PRIORITY EVEN THOUGH I SUBMITTED MY REPORT WEEKS PRIOR TO
THE HURRICANES HITTING.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY IS AFFECTED BY THE HURRICANE.
I AM TOO AFFECTED BY THE HURRICANE.
I HAVE A TREE ON MY HOUSE.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT I LIVE WITH MY FIANC E AND
BABIES IN THESE UNSAFE LIVING CONDITIONS.
MIND YOU, I'VE LIVED IN MULTIPLE HOUSES IN THE TAMPA BAY
AREA.
WHILE THIS ONE MAY BE THE WORST MANAGED SIMILAR FOLLOW SUIT.
STANDARD OF LIVING IS DECLINING WHILE RENT IS INCREASING.
IT IS LARGELY DUE TO PREDATORY BUSINESS PRACTICES FROM
COMPANIES LIKE MIND.
OPERATE WITH IMPUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE ACCEPTED AS NEW
STANDARD OF LIVING.
PEOPLE FROM OUT-OF-STATE DO NOT SHARE THE COMMITMENT TO OUR
LOCAL POPULATION.
I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING PROBLEMS AND DEMAND
FOR BACK PAY REFLECT UNREASONABLE, UNETHICAL BUSINESS
PRACTICES.
THESE CONDITIONS HAVE MADE MY HOME UNSAFE.
ME AND MY FAMILY ARE FINANCIAL STRAIN FROM BACK PAY DEMAND.

IT IS UNREASONABLE.
I'M ASKING THE TAMPA BAY CITY COUNCIL TO HELP RESOLVE THESE
MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND STEP IN BECAUSE CLEARLY CODE
ENFORCEMENT AND NOBODY ELSE IS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:24:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:24:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SIR, YOU ARE IN PASCO COUNTY.
MY ASSISTANT WILL MEET YOU OUTSIDE AND GIVE YOU THE
INFORMATION FOR -- WE'RE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:24:30AM >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:24:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ROBIN LOCKETT, METESNOT, MAEGEN LUKA, THE LAST SPEAKER.
GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:24:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
I COME BEFORE YOU AS THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF FLORIDA
RISING, A TAXPAYER AND CITIZEN.
I WANT TO FIRST THANK ALL OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS, JUST
SEEING THEM, JUST BACKING UP, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I WAS NOT
AFFECTED BY THE STORM.
I HAD LIGHTS, JUST SO HAPPENED MY LIGHTS -- MY UTILITIES ARE
UNDERGROUND.
SO I WASN'T -- I DIDN'T LOSE MY ELECTRICITY AND I WAS NOT IN
A FLOOD ZONE.

BUT I WANT TO THANK THE FIRST RESPONDERS.
I WANT TO THANK ALL THE LINEMEN THAT CAME OUT FROM
EVERYWHERE JUST SEEING TRUCKS COME FROM CANADA, VERMONT,
JUST THE WHOLE SLEW.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.
FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE DEPARTMENT, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
JUST EVERYBODY JUST FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK.
CITY STAFF AND EVERYONE ELSE, CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS IS A BIG ONE, AND THIS IS A CHANCE FOR US TO BE FORWARD
THINKING.
I'M COMING FROM A DIFFERENT SPACE.
I'M NOT COMING BECAUSE SOUTH TAMPA FLOODED.
I'M COMING BECAUSE NORTH TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS AND EAST
TAMPA NEGLECTED.
THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
AS COUNCILMAN VIERA STATED THIS MORNING, ABOUT TIMBERFALLS
BEING FLOODED OUT, THAT WHOLE -- FOWLER BEING FLOODED OUT.
SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE KNOCKED ON DOORS.
FLORIDA RISING KNOCKED ON DOORS DOING WELLNESS CHECKS ON THE
COMMUNITY JUST TO FIND OUT HOW THEY WERE DOING, WHAT THEIR
CONCERNS WERE AND IF WE CAN HELP.
IF THEY NEED A BAG OF PAMPERS OR A WATER OR WHATEVER.
MYSELF AND DIANNE HART, REP HART, WENT UP AND DOWN SULPHUR
SPRINGS STREETS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRICITY.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE WATER.

DEBRIS EVERYWHERE.
WE WENT UP AND DOWN THOSE STREETS TAKING FOOD.
IF YOU STOPPED AND HELPED ONE, 20 CAME.
AND THE WORD THEY SAID WAS THANK YOU.
WE THOUGHT YOU FORGOT ABOUT US.
BECAUSE NO ONE HAD BEEN OVER THERE.
REP HART WAS TRYING TO GET A COMFORT STATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS WITH THAT, BUT WHAT I NOTICED
WAS IN REGARDS TO THE RELIEF SITUATION, AL BARNES PARK,
YEAH, LOPEZ PARK AND SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOTHING ON THE EAST
SIDE.
NOTHING ON THE NORTH SIDE.
WELL, WEST IS THAT.
WHERE WAS THE HELP FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WAS DEALING
WITH THAT?
I KNOW YOU ALL WON'T STOP ME.
I HEARD THAT A COMMUNITY HAD SHOWERS -- SHOWER STALLS
BROUGHT OUT TO THEM.
THERE HAS TO BE A WAY YOU THINK ABOUT THIS SO EQUITY IS
PROVIDED, NOT JUST FOR THE SOUTH.
IT'S FOR THE NORTH, EAST, AND WEST.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY PAYS -- ARE TAXPAYERS.
SOME FORM OR FASHION.
NO, EAST TAMPA IS NOT IN THERE.
SO I'M SPEAKING FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE PROBABLY STILL

ROBBING PETER, PAYING PAUL AND LIGHTS OUT, THROWING ALL
THEIR FOOD OUT AND HAVE NO RESOURCES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT THEY'LL DO NEXT.
THERE HAS TO BE A WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO THINK THROUGH THESE
THINGS OR SET UP A SYSTEM.
1917, 1921, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST STORM HIT, THOSE ARE
THE TWO DATES -- YEARS TO STICK WITH ME.
THERE HAS TO BE A PLAN FROM THAT TIME UNTIL OCTOBER THE 9
WHEN THE HURRICANE HIT.
WHAT IS THE PLAN IN PROTECTING THE CITIZENS?
BECAUSE IF THAT STORM HIT US, WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE
TODAY.
WE WOULDN'T.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
I'M DISAPPOINTED.
I THINK IN REGARDS TO RENTERS, THERE HAS TO BE A WAY THAT
THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT CHARGED WHOLE AMOUNT OF MONEY
TO THE RENTERS, THAT THEY HAVE TO BE MANDATED TO HAVE
GENERATORS.
NOT GENERATORS JUST TO RUN THE ELEVATORS UP, BUT THE
GENERATORS TO POWER THE WHOLE ENTIRE UNIT.
PEOPLE'S APARTMENTS.
THERE HAS TO BE A WAY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
THEY ARE CHARGING A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY SO THEY
SHOULD BE MANDATED TO DO THAT.

FLOOD ZONES.
NO REASON WHY, SHE'S AWAKENED AT NIGHT BECAUSE SOMEBODY
CONTACTED HER BECAUSE HER CAR IS FLOATING DOWN THE
APARTMENT, IN THE APARTMENT FLOATING SOMEWHERE.
DEBRIS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:30:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:30:04AM >> I KNOW YOU AIN'T GOING TO STOP ME.
11:30:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAD THREE MINUTES AND I DIDN'T SAY A
WORD.
11:30:08AM >> I KNOW.
BUT YOU LET SOMEBODY ELSE STAY UP HERE FOREVER.
11:30:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AGREE WITH MS. LOCKETT.
WE SEEM TO HAVE DISREGARDED THE RULES SO WE SHOULD LET HER
SPEAK.
11:30:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
11:30:23AM >> NOW I'M MAD.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T CALL IT AN
INVESTIGATION BECAUSE INVESTIGATION SCARES PEOPLE BUT
SOMETHING HAS TO BE LOOKED INTO IN REGARDS TO FINDING OUT
WHAT HAPPENED AND REALLY FINDING OUT WHAT HAPPENED, NOT
BEING AFRAID OF WHAT THE COST IS FINDING OUT WHAT HAPPENS
AND HOW TO PREVENT IT.
WE CAN STOP THE DISASTER FROM HAPPENING FROM A HURRICANE,
MITIGATE THOSE SITUATIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
[ APPLAUSE ]

MY CONCERN IS THE SENIORS.
I WANT TO THANK MAYOR CASTOR.
JUST SO HAPPENED ON THE PHONE WITH HER.
THE SENIOR APARTMENT DOWNTOWN, THEIR ELEVATOR WENT OUT
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE POWER.
JUST SO HAPPENED I WAS ON THE CALL AND SHE HEARD SOMEONE
TELLING ME THAT.
THEIR POWER WAS OUT.
THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR THE MAINTENANCE OR WHOEVER IT WAS
SAID THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY.
THIS WAS SATURDAY.
SO WE'RE DELIVERING FOOD TO THAT LOCATION.
I SEE THESE SENIORS TRYING TO GET DOWN STAIRS TO GET FOOD.
THERE HAS -- HOW DO WE PROTECT PEOPLE FROM IDIOTIC PEOPLE
THAT RUN APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND SO FORTH WHO ARE NOT
PROTECTING THEM, NOT PROTECTING PEOPLE THAT PAID THEM THEIR
RENT.
SO THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
THANK YOU FOR MY ADDITIONAL TIME, EVEN THOUGH YOU TRIED TO
KICK ME OUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR MY ADDITIONAL TIME.
I APPRECIATE IT.
11:32:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WAS THAT METRO APARTMENTS?
11:32:14AM >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
OH, AND COLUMBUS, I WANT TO THANK THE OWNERS OF COLUMBUS
COURT APARTMENTS.

I THINK IT WAS CENTRAL COURT APARTMENTS.
THEY FED, THEY CATERED FOOD AND THEY SENT FOOD OUT THERE
BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THOSE APARTMENTS DIDN'T HAVE
ELECTRICITY AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NO MEANS TO COOK.
BUT THEY SENT CONAN'S BARBEQUE, SENT PEOPLE OUT THERE TO
FEED INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE APARTMENT.
PEOPLE YOU ARE MAKING MONEY OFF OF, THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS.
THEY ARE FORWARD THINKING TRYING TO PROTECT THOSE
INDIVIDUALS.
THANK YOU.
11:32:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
MENTESNOT, FOLLOWED BY MAEGEN LUKA.
11:33:02AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I WANT TO SAY UHURU, MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
FREEDOM.
I WANT TO SAY THAT -- I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
FOR WHAT SHE DID DURING THE STORM.
DON'T HAVE TO ELABORATE ON IT.
JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR THAT.
ONE THING I ALWAYS TEACH MY KIDS IS TO BE GOOD AND BE BLACK.
DON'T EVER LIE.
ALWAYS BE TRUTHFUL, BE HONORABLE, BE GOOD TO OTHER PEOPLE.
DON'T DRINK ANY ALCOHOL.

DON'T INDULGE IN ANY TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
DON'T DO ANY DRUGS AND DON'T COMPROMISE YOURSELF.
IT'S NOT GOOD TO LIE.
I WAS SO ANGRY DURING THE STORM BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE
PERSONAL NUMBER OF THE TOW TRUCK DRIVER.
I CALLED HIM TO MOVE MY ROLLS-ROYCE AND HE TOLD ME HIS
LIGHTS WERE OUT AND DEALING WITH A FAMILY SITUATION BECAUSE
HIS HOUSE WAS GETTING FLOODED.
I WAS SO ANGRY ABOUT THAT.
I CALLED A COMPANY AND FILED A COMPLAINT AGAINST HIM AND
THEY MADE HIM COME OUT AND MOVE MY ROLLS-ROYCE IMMEDIATELY.
YES.
I WISH IF IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE HIGHER I CAN COMPLAIN TO TO
REALLY GET HIM FIRED.
COULD NOT IMAGINE THAT THIS MAN, THIS PERSON GAVE RESISTANCE
TO REMOVING MY ROLLS-ROYCE FROM BEING PROTECTED FROM THE
STORM.
THAT'S HOW THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT'S HOW THIS CITY ACTS.
WHEN THE PEOPLE GET READY TO SPEAK, THEY GOT UP AND THEY
LEFT.
AND THE IGNORANT PEOPLE IN HERE ARE TALKING ABOUT STORM AND
HURRICANES AND STUPIDITY.
IT'S ACTUAL STUPIDITY, TALKING ABOUT A CATEGORY 3, CATEGORY
4, CATEGORY 5, MY HOUSE GOT FLOODED, THIS HAPPENED, THAT
HAPPENED, TREE FELL DOWN.

IGNORAMUS.
INCONSIDERATE.
NO CONSIDERATION.
NO CONNECTION TO THE WORLD WHATSOEVER.
IT'S A HURRICANE CATEGORY 1,000 TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW IN
PALESTINE.
MAN-MADE CATEGORY 1,000.
STORM TAKING PLACE IN PALESTINE.
AND PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR HOUSE GETTING FLOODED.
BAYSHORE HAS ALWAYS FLOODED.
HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY HAS ALWAYS FLOODED FOR 50 YEARS.
THEY TALK 10, 15 YEARS.
NO, FOR 50 YEARS PLUS.
BAYSHORE FLOODS WHEN IT RAINS AND THEY HAVE TO CLOSE THE
STREET OFF CONSTANTLY.
EVERYTHING IN SOUTH TAMPA AND IN HYDE PARK IS FLOODING WHEN
IT'S RAINING.
WHEN IT'S SIMPLY RAINING AND THEY CAN'T FIX THAT PROBLEM.
ALL THE NEIGHBORS ON BAYSHORE, SOUTH TAMPA, DEVASTATED BY
THE RAIN, BY THE FIRST HURRICANE, BY THE SECOND HURRICANE.
AND THE CITY COUNCIL DOES ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING
ABOUT IT.
IT'S A DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL, NOT ONLY IN THIS AREA.
SO WE'RE NOT -- IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REPARATIONS, IF
YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COMMUNISM, IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING

ABOUT SOCIALISM, IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REPARATIONS FOR
AFRICAN PEOPLE, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT NOTHING.
IT'S GARBAGE TALK.
NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT FLOODWATER.
ALL MY FING LIFE FLOODING CENTRAL PARK, ROBLES PARK, EAST
TAMPA.
AND IT'S NOT ONLY FLOODING, IT'S SEWAGE.
SEWAGE PROBLEMS.
AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT IT.
THERE IS A DIVERSE ECONOMY, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAY, HEY, I
LIVE IN THE HEIGHTS AND THE ECONOMY UP THERE IS DIFFERENT
FROM WHAT IT IS, THE SOCIETY PEOPLE LIVE DOWN HERE, INCOMES
ARE DIFFERENT.
SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL
NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS.
DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS.
I'M SURE BILL GATES AND MYSELF HAVE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS.
SO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPLY
SOME COMMON SENSE AND RESOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS.
LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, THE PEOPLE NEED TO SPEAK FIRST AND
THE CITY STAFF NEED TO BE MADE TO STAY AND LISTEN TO WHAT
THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.
HOW DISRESPECTFUL THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WITH SO MANY PROBLEMS
CAME DOWN TO CITY COUNCIL TODAY BECAUSE NORMALLY THESE

CHAIRS ARE EMPTY AND THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL
ALLOW THE CITY STAFF TO GET UP IN A WHOLE SECTION -- AND A
WHOLE SECTION WALKED OUT OF HERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T GIVE AN
F WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY OR HOW WE FEEL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
NEXT IS MAEGEN LUKA.
SHE WILL BE THE FINAL SPEAKER.
GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:38:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MAEGEN LUKA.
WHEN I CAME IN I HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MADE ME WANT
TO WRITE THEM DOWN.
DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
IT IS NO ONE'S FAULT.
THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A STORM LIKE THIS BEFORE.
I AM NOT BLAMING THE GOVERNMENT.
I AM 100% BLAMING THE GOVERNMENT AND I WANT TO DO A LITTLE
FACT CHECKING.
WHEN I BOUGHT MY TOWNHOME ON HABANA AVENUE IN 2003, THE
THREE BLOCKS AROUND IT WERE PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
THEY HAD LARGE YARDS THAT WOULD ABSORB WATER DURING
RAINSTORMS.
DEVELOPERS WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN PERMITS TO TEAR DOWN

SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND BUILD MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURES,
PRIMARILY TOWNHOMES.
THEY RUN FRONT TO BACK, CONCRETE DRIVEWAY, TEENY LITTLE
STRIP OF YARD IN THE BACK, ZERO LOT LINE.
I LOVE IT.
IT IMPROVES MY PROPERTY VALUE.
I DO NOT LOVE THAT THE CITY DID NOTHING TO IMPROVE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN IT ALLOWED ALL THAT CONCRETE.
SO, 12 YEARS AFTER I BOUGHT MY HOME, IN AUGUST 2015, MY
TOWNHOME FLOODED.
IT WAS NOT A HURRICANE LIKE WHAT WE EXPERIENCED WITH HELENE
AND MILTON, IT WAS SEVERAL DAYS OF SUSTAINED RAIN.
IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN CHECK AND THIS COUNCIL MEMBER
OBJECTIVE FACT, 15 TO 20 INCHES DEPENDING ON YOUR ADDRESS OF
RAIN OVER A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
I HAD A NINE INCH WATER MARK INSIDE MY HOUSE IN AUGUST 2015.
PLEASE, DO NOT TELL YOURSELVES THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
YOU DIDN'T KNOW WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
OVER THE NEXT NINE YEARS, THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES CONTINUED
TO BE TORN DOWN AND TOWNHOMES CONTINUED TO GO UP IN THEIR
PLACE.
LAST THURSDAY, AGAIN, OBJECTIVE FACT, YOU CAN CHECK ON THE
NOAA WEBSITE.
WE GOT 11 TO 12 INCHES OF RAIN FROM MILTON.
I HAVE AN 18-INCH WATER MARK INSIDE MY HOUSE.

8 INCHES LESS RAINFALL THAN IN 2015, DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF
WATER INSIDE MY HOME.
ON SEPTEMBER 4th OF THIS YEAR, NO HURRICANE.
JUST A HEAVY RAINSTORM.
THE WATER WAS IN MY GARAGE.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2015 AND 2024 IS THE AMOUNT OF
CONCRETE AND THE LACK OF UPDATES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
DO NOT TELL YOURSELVES THIS WAS NOT A KNOWN PROBLEM.
THE CITY IS ABSOLUTELY AWARE OF THE PROBLEM IN THIS AREA.
I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING, TOO.
PARKLAND ESTATES WHERE MR. ADAMS LIVES AND MUCH TO HIS
CREDIT HAS MADE HIS VOICE VERY KNOWN BORDERS MY
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS WAS NOT A 100-YEAR EVENT.
MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS 21 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
WE ARE IN FLOOD ZONE X.
WE SHOULD NOT HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
IF YOU DRIVE AROUND THIS FOUR-BLOCK RADIUS, MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS OF PERSONAL PROPERTY, APPLIANCES, THE INSIDES OF
PEOPLE'S HOMES ARE ON OUR CURBS.
WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY THAT EVERY TIME IT RAINS, OUR
HOMES ARE GOING TO FLOOD AGAIN.
I AM ABSOLUTELY BLAMING THE GOVERNMENT.
THE CITY PERMITTED THE INCREASE IN THE CONCRETE.
THE CITY FAILED TO UPDATE THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE

NECESSARY TO SUPPORT WHAT IT APPROVED.
THE CITY HAS FAILED US.
THE CITY HAS TAKEN OUR MONEY FOR A STORMWATER TAX.
THE REASON THAT I AM HERE IS NOT TO YELL AT YOU.
IT'S TO FACT CHECK YOU AND EMPOWER YOU.
YOU ARE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGERS.
YOU ARE THE ONES THAT CHECK THE CITY.
PLEASE FIX THE PROBLEM AND DON'T DO IT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW
BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I WILL WORRY EVERY
TIME IT RAINS.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT I PUT FLEX SEAL TAPE ON MY GARAGE AND
EVERY DOOR TO MY HOME.
I'VE TAPED UP VISQUEEN AND PUT DOWN SANDBAGS AND IT DIDN'T
DO A DAMN THING TO KEEP 18 INCHES OF WATER OUT OF MY HOUSE.
AND NOW EVERYTHING I OWN IS SITTING ON THE CURB.
PLEASE, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO FIX THIS.
THIS CITY EMPLOYS ENGINEERS.
PLEASE CALL THEM OUT.
WE NEED SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS SO THAT THE RAINSTORMS THAT ARE
COMING STILL THIS YEAR DON'T FLOOD US.
DIG DITCHES.
CREATE RETENTION PONDS.
THERE IS A GIANT PARKING LOT NEXT DOOR TO OUR BLOCK.
SOMETHING COULD GO THERE.
FIX THE PROBLEM PLEASE.

WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, PICTURES SAY A THOUSAND WORDS, IF I PUT
IT RIGHT HERE WILL YOU BE ABLE TO SEE IT?
11:43:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
IT WILL COME UP IN JUST A SECOND.
11:43:32AM >> THAT IS OUR SEWAGE PUMP.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 150 FEET FROM MY DOOR.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH GENIUS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO
CREATE ONE THAT IS UNDERGROUND.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE MAN THERE PUMPING THAT OUT TOLD ME
THAT HE DOES THIS ALL OVER THE STATE, AND HE GAVE ME POLK
COUNTY AND SARASOTA COUNTY AS TWO NEIGHBORING EXAMPLES WHEN
HE SAID I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE.
NORMALLY THESE ARE ABOVEGROUND AND THEY ARE ELEVATED.
SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WHEN I HAD 18 INCHES OF WATER
INSIDE MY HOME.
IT WASN'T RAINWATER.
IT WAS POO WATER.
BECAUSE THE PUMP STATION 150 YARDS AWAY WAS COMPLETELY
FLOODED BECAUSE IT'S UNDERGROUND.
THIS IS MY REQUEST.
IN A PARTISAN WORLD, I AM ASKING YOU ALL TO STAND TOGETHER
TO FIX A PROBLEM.
I HEARD YOU SPEAKING IN THE BEGINNING.
YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
YOU HAVE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

YOU HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON, YOU LOVE THE CITY.
PLEASE, GO VIRAL FOR BEING UNITED TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
WE ARE EACH IN CONTROL OF HOW WE ARE REMEMBERED.
YOU HAVE THE POWER TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF PROTECTION.
YOU HAVE THE POWER TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF CREATING SOLUTIONS.
YOU HAVE BEEN YELLED AT ALL MORNING LONG.
I AM NOT YELLING AT YOU.
I AM BEGGING YOU, FIX IT NOW.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:45:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M GOING TO GO INTO THE AGENDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:45:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE ITEMS 3-12.
11:45:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, 13-25, NOTHING WAS PULLED.
11:45:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
I MOVE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
ITEMS 13-25.
11:46:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER

HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE, BUT THEN YOU
HAD ITEMS.
11:46:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M MOVING ITEMS 26 THROUGH 29 AND 32.
11:46:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
26 THROUGH 29 AND 32.
11:46:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE ONLY DOING 29 AND 32.
11:46:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY BRAIN IS FRIED LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
11:46:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHERE --
11:46:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE MORE TIME.
I AM PASSING OR I AM MOVING ITEMS 26 THROUGH 29 AND 32.
11:46:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:46:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
11:46:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
11:46:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM NUMBER 30, I BELIEVE MR. INGRAM IS HERE.
I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
WE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT THIS THROUGH KOPESKY.
THIS IS A MOTION TO MOVE $300,000 TO HAVE BASICALLY AN
ASSESSMENT OF THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH WE'RE ALL
VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
100% NEEDS TO BE DONE.

ONLY THING I DIDN'T SEE IN THE SWOT -- I'M SORRY, INTO THE
SCOPE OF WORK.
WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THIS ASSESSMENT TO BE COMPLETED?
11:47:42AM >> DAVID INGRAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TAMPA CONVENTION
CENTER.
THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
WE WANTED IT TO ALREADY BE DONE BY JANUARY.
IT WILL PROBABLY BE DONE BY MARCH OF 2025.
WE HAVE GIVEN THEM SIX MONTHS TO DO THE PHYSICAL ASSESSMENT.
300,000 IS ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF OUR OPERATING FUNDS
SUBSIDIZED BY REVENUES WE GENERATE FROM OUR SERVICES.
IT'S NOT IMPACTING THE GENERAL FUND.
11:48:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
SO I WANTED TO FIND OUT THE DATE.
I HAVE A MOTION THAT I'D LIKE TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
I MOVE FOR STAFF TO OFFER INDIVIDUAL BRIEFINGS TO COUNCIL
MEMBERS REVIEWING THE RESULTS OF THE ASSESSMENT REPORT NO
MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AFTER THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER STAFF
RECEIVES ITS STAGE 4 BRIEFING AND BEFORE THE RESULTS ARE
PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO?
11:48:32AM >> WE CAN DO THAT.
11:48:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
THE IDEA IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT THEY ARE SAYING
AND FOR US ABILITY TO SAY LET'S GO HARDER.

JUST TO GET SOME OF OUR IMPACT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND OR I
UNDERSTAND AND I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH MONEY WE
CAN JUST FIXING THE CONVENTION CENTER, HOW MUCH REVENUE WE
CAN THEN MAKE FROM THAT.
I THINK ALL OF US WANT TO SEE OUR CONVENTION CENTER IMPROVED
SO WE CAN START TO MAXIMIZE.
11:49:02AM >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
AND WE'LL GET THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
11:49:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS THAT ATTACHED TO
30?
11:49:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS MOTION IS NOT ATTACHED -- WELL, I MEAN
IT IS AND ISN'T.
SINCE I ALREADY READ THE MOTION, IF WE COULD PASS THE MOTION
AND THEN I WILL MOVE 30.
11:49:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:49:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEM 30.
11:49:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
11:49:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
31, ALSO ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THIS WAS THE RENOVATION.
IT'S REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE WE GOT ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS
BACK.
IT IS REALLY WONDERFUL.
I'M STILL TRYING TO WORK WITH MR. ROGERO TO FIND OUT EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY, THE EXTRA MONEY.
BECAUSE SOME OF THIS WAS FINANCED.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES TO PAY OFF BONDS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT WE
WILL.
BECAUSE THIS WAS SUCH A GIANT PROJECT AND AFTER THE GIANT
PROJECTS WE'VE HAD, WHAT WE HAVE, SO, SAY, FOR THE WASTE TO
ENERGY FACILITY, AFTER THAT WAS DONE, THEY CAME AND GAVE US
A LITTLE POSTMORTEM, HOW DID IT WORK, HOW DID IT GO?
BASICALLY I'M ASKING FOR THE SAME THING.
I MOTION THAT STAFF WORK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET
ANALYST TO CREATE A FIVE-MINUTE IN-PERSON REPORT TO PRESENT
AN OVERVIEW OF THE RECENTLY COMPLETED $25 MILLION TAMPA
CONVENTION CENTER RENOVATION PROJECT.
THIS OVERVIEW SHOULD INCLUDE -- I FORGOT YOUR NEW NAME.
MRS. HARRIS.
THIS IS ALL WRITTEN DOWN JUST SO YOU KNOW.
ITEM 1, PROJECT APPROVAL TIMELINE FROM 2020 TO 2024 DETAIL
OF THE COST COMPONENTS FOR DESIGN SERVICES GMP 1, GMP 2 AND
ANY CHANGE ORDERS WITH SKANSKA, DETAIL OF ADDITIONAL WORK

THAT CONSUMED 1.75 MILLION IN SKANSKA CONTINGENCY FUNDS,
DETAIL OF ANY NON-SKANSKA COSTS, DESCRIPTION OF DELIVERABLES
ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
FOR EXAMPLE, EXPANDED INTERNAL FLOOR SPACE, NEW MEETING
ROOMS, HVAC UPGRADES, ET CETERA.
NUMBER 6, KEY IMPLEMENTATION DATES AND REASONS FOR VARIANCES
FROM ORIGINAL VENDOR DEADLINES.
NUMBER 7, FINANCIAL COMPARISON OF BUDGET TO THE ACTUAL FOR
PROJECT NUMBER 1001984, NUMBER 8, OPTIONS FOR THE USE OF THE
UNUSED CAPITAL FUNDS SINCE THIS PROJECT WAS BONDED,
INCLUDING BREAKOUT BETWEEN CRA AND NON-CRA PORTION.
NUMBER 9, SOFT AND HARD BENEFITS THE CITY CAN EXPECT FROM
THIS INVESTMENT.
NUMBER 10, ANY OTHER PERTINENT DETAILS STAFF BELIEVES WOULD
BE HELPFUL.
I REQUEST THE DATE FOR THE PRESENTATION TO BE ON DECEMBER
19, 2024.
11:51:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:51:58AM >> I'LL TRY TO GET THAT TO YOU.
ONE THING IS, COMPONENT, THERE ARE THREE DEPARTMENTS.
CAD, BUDGET ANALYST AND MYSELF.

GETTING ALL THAT --
11:52:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU NEED MORE TIME --
11:52:10AM >> CONNECTED, WE'LL TRY TO GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
IF I NEED TO, I'LL COME BACK AND ASK FOR EXTENSION.
11:52:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COME TO MY OFFICE AND DO AN EXTENSION.
I AT LEAST WANT TO GET A DATE ON THE CALENDAR.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I WANT TO MOVE ITEM 31.
11:52:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
11:52:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING FOR THE
CONVENTION CENTER.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED.
11:52:40AM >> THANK YOU.
IT'S BEEN A ROUGH COUPLE OF WEEKS JUST FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
ONE THING A POSITIVE OUT OF THE STORY, WE ONLY HAD THREE
GROUPS THAT OFFICIALLY -- THEY DIDN'T CANCEL.
THEY ARE RESCHEDULING.
ECONOMIC IMPACT LATER IN THE YEAR, CLOSER PROBABLY TO
FEBRUARY/MARCH WE'LL SEE THE GROUPS COME BACK.
THAT IS A POSITIVE STORY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.

11:53:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
NEXT WE HAVE FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA,
33-38.
11:53:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEMS 33-38.
11:53:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
11:53:16AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANTED TO COMMENT ON ITEM 38.
I SEE MY FRIENDS AT THE BARBAS, NUNEZ, SANDERS, BUTLER &
HOVSEPIAN FIRM.
I CLERKED THERE WHEN I WAS I THINK A 24-YEAR-OLD, LIKE 22
YEARS AGO, WHICH IS FUNNY.
CITE THEIR AMAZING LEGAL WORK.
SOME OF THE BEST.
I DID WORKERS' COMPENSATION FOR MY FIRST I THINK TWO YEARS
AS ATTORNEY.
DEFENSE WORK.
THEY ARE SOME OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS.
ATTORNEY STEVE BARBAS IS RETIRING FROM PRACTICING LAW AFTER,
GOSH, I THINK REPRESENTING OUR CITY OF TAMPA FOR 45 YEARS.
IF YOU KNOW ME, YOU KNOW THAT WHEN I SAY I LOVE STEVE
BARBAS, I LOVE STEVE BARBAS.
HE IS ONE OF THE FINEST MEN I KNOW.

WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL.
I LOVE HIM A LOT.
WANTED TO GIVE HIM IN PARTICULAR A SALUTE FOR 45 YEARS OF
SERVICE TO CITY OF TAMPA IN WORKERS' COMPENSATION
LITIGATION.
I KNOW HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE VOTING RIGHTS CASE HERE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA THAT CREATED AT-LARGE SEATS.
AND HE'S JUST ONE OF THE FINEST MEN I KNOW.
I'M A BIG FAN.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S NEIGHBOR, IN FACT, AND JUST ONE OF THE
FINEST MEN I KNOW.
JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
11:54:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE WHOLE BARBAS FAMILY IS GREAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:54:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID.
STEVEN BARBAS AND HIS FAMILY HAVE HELPED IN SO MANY WAYS IN
THE COMMUNITY, BESIDES HELPING WITH WORKERS' COMPENSATION
WORK, HE ALSO, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WAS CHAIR OF THE CAC IN
YBOR FOR MANY YEARS.
SHOWED GREAT LEADERSHIP.
HIS WIFE IS AMAZING ALSO.
UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA FOR A LONG TIME AND HELP WITH THE
TRANSITION AND THE GREAT GROWTH OVER THERE.
I THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING TO HONOR HIM IN SOME WAY.
I KNOW YOU KNOW HIM BETTER THAN I.

IF YOU MAKE A MOTION, I'LL SECOND IT.
45 YEARS, WHATEVER IT WAS, I THINK IT'S WORTH ACKNOWLEDGING
THAT PUBLICLY.
11:55:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DID WE VOTE UP TO 38?
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
JUST SO WE KNOW.
ITEM 39 THROUGH 43, 39 WAS PULLED AND THEN 40 COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK WILL RECUSE HERSELF AND 41 WAS PULLED.
11:55:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 42, 43.
11:55:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FOR 42 AND 43.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
39 WE'LL GET TO AT STAFF REPORTS.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:55:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAD SOMETHING I WANTED TO SHOW FOR ITEM 41.
MS. SHARP.
THE QUESTION WAS FROM SOMEONE IN THE PUBLIC, WE APPROVED
THIS ALREADY FROM A CRA PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE ARE MOVING,
WHAT MONEY WE ARE MOVING.
I DON'T KNOW IF MR. MASSEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT
IT.
11:56:11AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THE SERVICES AGREEMENT IN LARGE PART IS SET UP SO THAT THE

CRA COMPENSATES THE CITY FOR EMPLOYING THE CRA DIRECTOR AND
THE CRA STAFF THAT'S NECESSARY TO DO THE WORK OF THE CRA.
SO THE COST OF THOSE SALARIES ARE SHARED AMONG THE VARIOUS
REDEVELOPMENT AREAS.
IT'S DONE ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS.
THE LARGEST PORTION COMES FROM THE LARGEST TIF, WHICH IS THE
DOWNTOWN.
THE NEXT LARGEST IS CHANNELSIDE, SO THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE ON
A PERCENTAGE BASIS.
IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY NUMBERS, THE SALARY -- SALARIES
WOULD BE SHARED ACROSS THE REDEVELOPMENT AREAS IN THIS
MANNER.
SO THAT'S NUMERICAL NUMBERS.
ADJUSTED DURING THE YEAR POTENTIALLY IF WE HIRE ADDITIONAL
FOLKS, IF SALARIES ARE ADJUSTED.
AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME OTHER COSTS THAT GET SHARED ACROSS
THE CRAs AS WELL.
THERE ARE ALSO SPECIFIC PROJECTS WITH THE CITY GETS
COMPENSATED FOR FROM A PARTICULAR CRA.
FOR INSTANCE, IF COMMUNITY POLICING IS DONE IN YBOR, THAT
COMES OUT OF THE YBOR TIF.
NOT SHARED ACROSS ALL THE OTHER TIFS.
THIS IS HOW THE COST SHARING IS DONE FOR THE SALARIES AMONG
THE VARIOUS REDEVELOPMENT AREAS.
THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY YOU ALL.

BECAUSE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND CRA, REQUIRES CITY
COUNCIL APPROVAL AS WELL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
11:57:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE THE
DOCUMENTATION GAVE THE PERCENTAGES, BUT NOT THE ACTUAL
AMOUNTS.
THAT WAS A QUESTION WE HAD GOTTEN FROM THE PUBLIC.
I WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO SHOW.
I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT WAS ALL I WANTED --
11:58:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
39 HAS BEEN PULLED.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF ON 40?
11:58:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THOUGHT THESE WERE BEING DONE AT STAFF
REPORTS.
11:58:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OH, 39 AND 40.
OKAY.
I HAVE A NEW LIST HERE.
ITEMS 44 THROUGH 46.
11:58:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE ITEMS 44, 45, 46.

11:58:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE'RE GOING TO SET SOME ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE IS ONE HERE, MAGISTRATE PROCEEDING PURSUANT TO SECTION
7051.
IS THIS THE ONE SOMEBODY FROM PUBLIC COMMENT MENTIONED
PUTTING TO JANUARY?
11:58:56AM >>CATE WELLS:
YES, SIR.
CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY ON YOUR AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 3, AND
AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL ASKED MY OFFICE TO GET WITH THE
APPLICANT TO LOOK AT EVENING MEETINGS WHERE THIS COULD BE A
STAND-ALONE ITEM SO IT WASN'T ADDED TO YOUR EXISTING EVENING
MEETINGS.
SO THEN WE WERE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL LAST
WEEK.
LAST WEEK'S MEETING GOT CANCELED, SO HERE WE ARE TODAY.
IN CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMUNICATIONS WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE
NEIGHBORHOOD ASKING THAT THIS NOT BE SCHEDULED UNTIL NEXT
YEAR, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH JAKE CREMER WHO REPRESENTS THE
RELATED GROUP.
I KNOW NICOLE IS IN THE AUDIENCE IN THE EVENT YOU HAVE
QUESTIONS.

LOOKING AT POTENTIAL DATES.
THERE'S NO GREAT DATE BECAUSE THE THURSDAY EVENING MEETINGS
THAT ARE OPEN ARE THOSE EVENINGS THAT FOLLOW A REGULAR
MEETING.
LOOKING AT JANUARY, JANUARY 9 WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THIS
ITEM COULD BE HEARD.
AGAIN, THAT'S FOLLOWING A REGULAR MEETING.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF TUESDAY NIGHTS.
AND JANUARY 28 IS AVAILABLE WHERE ALL THE PARTIES TO THE
PROCEEDING WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR A HEARING IF COUNCIL
WANTED TO SCHEDULE IT ON A TUESDAY NIGHT.
12:00:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT KIND OF MEETING IS THAT FOLLOWING
THURSDAY AFTER THE 28th?
12:00:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE 23rd IS EMPTY.
12:00:26PM >>CATE WELLS:
28 IS A TUESDAY.
NEXT MEETING IS A WORKSHOP ON JANUARY 30.
THEN YOU HAVE AN EVENING MEETING.
12:00:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EVEN THE 23rd, WHICH IS A NORMAL THURSDAY,
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SCHEDULED.
WE HAVE ZERO STAFF REPORTS.
12:00:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE SCHEDULED A BUNCH TODAY, THIS
MORNING.
12:00:42PM >>CATE WELLS:
I LOOKED AT THE 23rd, BUT THE APPLICANT WAS
NOT AVAILABLE ON THAT DATE.
12:00:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO

TUESDAY, JANUARY 28 --
12:00:53PM >>CATE WELLS:
NOT TO CONTINUE IT.
SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
12:00:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE MOTION WOULD BE JANUARY 28,
5:01 P.M., CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
12:01:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
IS THIS BEFORE NOTICE?
WOULD THEY HAVE TO NOTICE.
12:01:07PM >>CATE WELLS:
YES.
12:01:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS A DIFFERENT DAY OF THE WEEK.
12:01:11PM >>CATE WELLS:
THEY HAVE TO NOTICE IT.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF SCHEDULING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO
MAKE IT CLEAR THAT 30 DAYS' NOTICE AS YOU WOULD WITH A
REGULAR REZONING ITEM.
I CAME PREPARED WITH A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION WITH
ALTERNATIVE DATES SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A DELAY IN SCHEDULING
THIS.
IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, I DO HAVE A SUBSTITUTE
RESOLUTION THAT WOULD SCHEDULE THE HEARING FOR JANUARY 28,
2025, AT 5:01 P.M.
12:01:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE.
12:01:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LET'S ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE AND WE'LL FILE
IT.
12:01:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.
12:01:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.

12:01:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHE ACCEPTS THE SUBSTITUTE.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS SET FOR A TUESDAY, JANUARY 28,
5:01 P.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602.
12:02:02PM >>CATE WELLS:
THANK YOU.
12:02:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOW LET'S GET A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
12:02:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
MS. WELLS WORKING WITH STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ARRANGE THAT AND
TO HAVE A SUBSTITUTE READY TO GO.
12:02:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SOMEBODY TOLD ME WE'RE LUCKY -- PRIVATE
FIRM CAN'T COMPARE WITH WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TOLD TO
ME.
THANK YOU TO ALL THE LEGAL FOLKS.
YOU ARE REALLY FANTASTIC.

12:02:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
12:02:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND ALL THE VOLUNTEER WORK, MR. MASSEY,
MS. WELLS AND SO MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE ENDLESSLY
SERVING PEOPLE.
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 48 NEEDS TO BE SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
12:03:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WISH TO TAKE THIS
UP FIRST, MY SUGGESTION IS, YOU SEE THE NOTE AT THE BOTTOM,
APPLIES TO 48, 49, AND 50.
THEY ALL REQUIRE BEFORE YOU DO SET THESE, IT'S BECAUSE OF
THE CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE MEETING THAT WAS CANCELED, I WOULD
REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND THE RESOLUTIONS
THAT ARE SET FORTH BY NUMBER ON THE AGENDA.
DO YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS --
12:03:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RESCIND 48, 49 --
12:03:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, NO.
12:03:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I RESCIND RESOLUTION NUMBERS 2024-757,
2024-758, AND 2024-759 THAT WERE ADOPTED ON AUGUST 22, 2024.
12:03:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOW YOU'RE READY TO TAKE UP THE NEW ONES.
12:04:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOW MOVE ITEM 48.
12:04:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU COULD DO THEM TOGETHER.
12:04:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:


12:04:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE ITEMS 48, 49, 50.
12:04:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
12:04:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:04:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOW WE GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THESE ARE SECOND READINGS.
THEY ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. -- LET'S GET A MOTION
TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEM 51.
12:04:41PM >> ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
THIS IS A SECOND READING ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER
22.
THESE HAVE TO DO WITH ADA REQUIREMENTS AND STREAMLINING THE
PROCESS.
DIDN'T HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE FIRST READING BUT IN THE EVENT
THAT YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS NOW, I'M HERE.

12:04:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 51?
I SEE NO ONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
12:05:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 51 -- [INAUDIBLE] ORDINANCE
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MAKING REVISIONS TO
THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 22, STREETS
AND SIDEWALKS, ARTICLE I, ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS,
AMENDING SECTIONS 22-116 THROUGH 22-121 AND SECTIONS 22-123
THROUGH 22-128 AND SECTIONS 22-132 THROUGH 22-133, PROVIDING
FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:05:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND HURTAK AND HENDERSON
WERE YOU ABLE TO REVIEW?
ALL RIGHT.
PLEASE PUT YOUR VOTE.
12:06:02PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:06:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 52.

12:06:10PM >> I'M HERE FOR 52 AS WELL AS IS MY COLLEAGUE MEGAN CALLOWAY
FROM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE FOR SUPPORT.
12:06:25PM >> MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION DIVISION.
TWIGGS STREET BETWEEN ASHLEY AND TAMPA THAT PORTION WE'RE
HAVING A SMALL PORTION THAT'S GOING TO BE REMOVED AS PART OF
THE DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT GOING
ON WHERE OLD FIRST WATCH USED TO BE AND THEY ARE GOING TO
REMOVE ABOUT 2,000 SQUARE FEET OF BRICK, JUST A PORTION.
AND THAT WAS TO ACTUALLY COINCIDE WITH OUR PROJECT.
WE HAVE A TWIGGS STREET PROJECT THAT IS GOING ON DESIGN
RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS TO ALSO CORRESPOND WITH OUR PROJECT.
THE PETITIONER, KAMI CORBETT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
THIS IS JUST A SMALL AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE REMOVED.
AND WE GET THE BRICKS BACK BECAUSE THAT IS CITY PROPERTY.
12:07:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO THEY ARE PALLETED.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:07:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THIS BEING MOVED TO LIKE WIDEN THE
SIDEWALK?
12:07:23PM >> YES.
IT'S TO TIE INTO OUR CURRENT TWIGGS PROJECT.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY ARE WIDENING THE SIDEWALK.
WE HAVE A PROJECT CURRENTLY IN DESIGN.

THEY ARE GOING TO TIE INTO OUR PROJECT FOR US IN THIS
SEGMENT.
12:07:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE ADDING PROTECTED BIKE LANES.
THAT'S ALL YOU NEEDED TO SAY.
OKAY.
12:07:42PM >> AGAIN, IT'S IN DESIGN, SO IT COULD CHANGE.
I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON THAT TOO MUCH.
12:07:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY, WHEN YOU PUT A BIKE LANE, YOU KNOW
BETTER.
I'LL HOP RIGHT ON IT.
THANK YOU.
12:07:53PM >> IT IS OUR INTENTION.
12:07:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:07:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO MY QUESTION IS, SO WE AUTHORIZE THE
REMOVAL OF THE BRICKS AND DO THIS.
WHAT IS THE OBLIGATION THAT THIS SIDEWALK IS ACTUALLY
CONSTRUCTED?
SO ONCE THE DESTRUCTION HAPPENS, WHAT IF THE DEVELOPER FOR
SOME REASON DOESN'T FULFILL THAT OBLIGATION.
12:08:15PM >> COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF THE
SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS.
BUT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT JUST THE APPLICATION TO REMOVE THE
BRICK.
12:08:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S MY POINT.

WHY WOULD I APPROVE THE APPLICATION IF ANYONE --
12:08:36PM >> THEY WERE NOT TIED IN TOGETHER LIKE THAT.
12:08:41PM >> THAT'S TRUE, IF THEY ARE NOT TIED TOGETHER, AGAIN, YOU
HAVE TO TAKE THAT AS A GRAIN OF SALT.
ANOTHER PART IS THE CODE.
THE DOWNTOWN CODE REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE A MINIMUM OF
10-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, BUT THIS PART OF THE PRIORITY OF THIS
STREET MIGHT EVEN BE MORE THAN THAT.
SO THE CODE ALONE REQUIRES ON CERTAIN STREETS, ON CERTAIN
PRIORITIES WE HAVE A, B AND C STREETS.
SORRY, I DID NOT KNOW WHICH ONE THIS IS.
TOGETHER THEY HAVE TO HAVE A WIDER SIDEWALK.
12:09:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING FOR MS. CORBETT.
12:09:12PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
CAN I JUMP IN A MINUTE, PLEASE?
12:09:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. FEELEY.
12:09:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES, GOOD AFTERNOON.
THIS PROJECT, ONE TAMPA, HAS A BUILDING PERMIT.
BUILDING PERMIT INCLUDES THOSE RIGHT-OF-WAY IMPROVEMENTS
THAT SHOW THAT SIDEWALK.
I KNOW MR. BARBER IS THERE.
SO WE WOULD NOT ISSUE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OR OCCUPANCY
ON THE BUILDING UNTIL THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN TYPICALLY
WHAT WE DO IS BRING TO YOU THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR
THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WOULD BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY
BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO LANDSCAPING, BENCHES, OTHER THINGS THAT

GO INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
DUE TO THESE PROJECTS BEING BUILT AT ZERO LOT LINE SO THEN
WE BRING THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU AS WELL.
IT CORRESPONDS TO THE PERMIT FOR THE PROJECT, AND IT WILL BE
CONSTRUCTED.
12:10:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS LONG AS THAT BUILDING GOES UP, THIS
WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.
THEY WOULD NOT GET AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT.
99.9% CHANCE THIS WILL OCCUR AS PLANNED.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?
12:10:14PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:

[INDISCERNIBLE]
12:10:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
12:10:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT YOU SAID THAT THE BIKE LANE MAY NOT BE
THERE.
THAT'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED.
12:10:28PM >> THIS PROJECT, REMEMBER, THIS IS A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT
WE HAVE ON TWIGGS FROM ASHLEY ALL THE WAY TO NEBRASKA.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE CONTEMPLATING THE CYCLE CHECK, BUT,
AGAIN, THEY ARE IN DESIGN.
IT COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE TO SOMETHING ELSE.
I'M NOT OVER THAT PROJECT.
IT'S CURRENTLY IN DESIGN.
IT MIGHT NOT BE EXACTLY THIS LAYOUT.
12:10:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THESE ARE TWO

SEPARATE THINGS.
12:10:53PM >> YES.
12:10:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BRICK IS BEING REMOVED AND THEY ARE REQUIRED
TO REPLACE IT WITH A SIDEWALK.
THE BIKE LANE IS A SEPARATE PROJECT.
12:11:02PM >> CORRECT.
EXACTLY.
12:11:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:11:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO REITERATE, SO WE CAN STILL SEE THE
PICTURE, THE PICTURE ON TOP, THAT DIAGONAL LINED AREA, THAT
IS THE ONLY PART THAT THE BRICKS WILL BE PULLED OUT AND
BRICKS REMAIN ON THE REST OF THE STREET?
12:11:22PM >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
12:11:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE A FEW YEARS AGO THAT
REQUIRES THAT BRICKS PULLED OUT ARE SAVED TO THE EXTENT THEY
CAN, THAT THEY SHOULD USE A METHOD THAT PROTECTS THE BRICKS
BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF BRICKS NEEDED IN OTHER AREAS,
SO THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED IN THIS CASE.
12:11:37PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S ALL PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PALLETIZE THE BRICK AND BRING IT BACK
TO THE CITY.
12:11:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN GENERAL I'M AGAINST REMOVING BRICKS BUT I
UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO MAKE THE CITY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AS
WELL.

12:11:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M PRO BIG SIDEWALKS.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE ASSURANCES IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED I THINK
IT IS A GOOD PLAN.
12:11:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 52?
YES, MA'AM.
ARE YOU THE REPRESENTATIVE.
12:12:04PM >> KAMI CORBETT WITH THE LAW FIRM HILL WARD HENDERSON.
I THINK ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT AS
WELL AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
12:12:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT OR COMMENT, CAN I GET A
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA -- COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION, ASK HE HAD FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER 53 -- WELL, 53 AND 54 WE ARE CONTINUING.
12:12:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO MOVE -- DO THE MOTION TO
CONTINUE THEM TO NOVEMBER 7.
12:12:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO -- YES.
DO I NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE?
12:12:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
AS LONG AS IT IS NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
12:12:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONLY REASON DIDN'T DO IT EARLIER BECAUSE
OF THE 10:30 TIME.
PUT YOUR MIKE ON.
12:13:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TEACHER IS GOING TO TEACH.
12:13:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
JUST FOR DATE, TIME, LOCATION SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF IT
AS WELL.
12:13:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE 53 AND 54
TO NOVEMBER 7, 2024, 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT HERE AT
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
33602.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEMS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
IN ORDER, 39, 40, 41, 56 -- ITEM 39 IS FIRST.

WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
BUT 39 HAS BEEN PUT HERE BECAUSE IT IS $5 MILLION.
DID YOU PULL IT?
GO AHEAD, SIR.
ITEM 39 IF YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF.
12:14:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED A COUPLE MORE BIG STORMS TO FRY MY
BRAIN.
12:14:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, WE DON'T.
MOTION TO STRIKE THAT.
12:14:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS MY CONCERN.
I SPOKE WITH STAFF ABOUT IT AS WELL AND TALKED TO THE
DEVELOPER OUT IN THE HALL.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT IN FY '24 WE HAD MONEY BUDGETED FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I WAS CONFUSED WHEN I READ THE DOCUMENTS AND THEY ARE
TALKING ABOUT BONDING THIS AND THEN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
INITIALLY WAS PLANNED AT 30 YEARS OF BONDING FOR 30 YEARS,
10 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE $20 MILLION.
SO THAT MEANS MY GRANDDAUGHTER WILL PROBABLY BE OF
CHILDBEARING AGE WILL STILL BE PAYING FOR THIS BOND.
AGAIN, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED BECAUSE I THOUGHT IN FY '24 WE
HAD MONEY BUDGETED FOR THIS AND FY '24 MONEY WITH THE $50
MILLION.
I THINK IT'S NO SECRET.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS TYPE OF BONDING.

I WOULD NOT HAVE AS BIG A PROBLEM IF IT WAS PAY GO.
I THINK SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS IN PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT
THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES IN THE
CITY, WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
IS THIS REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO BOND MONEY FOR?
I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO REALLY THINK HARD ABOUT WHAT WE'RE
BORROWING AND TO PAY FOR WHAT.
I'VE SAID THIS MANY, MANY TIMES ABOUT BORROWING MONEY AS AN
INVESTMENT FOR THINGS THAT RETURN MONEY BACK INTO THE
COFFERS, BASICALLY RETURNS MONEY TO THE CITY.
WHILE IT IS A GOOD PROGRAM AND I FULLY SUPPORT THE CONCEPT
AND THE IDEA, IF WE HAD THE EXTRA MONEY WITHIN THE BUDGET TO
PAY FOR IT, I THINK IT IS A GOOD PROJECT.
I THINK THE DEVELOPER IS A GOOD DEVELOPER.
I THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT.
I JUST HAVE A REAL PROBLEM FISCALLY WITH BORROWING THE MONEY
TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL.
12:16:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:16:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I TRIED TO TALK WITH MS. KOPESKY A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
THE STICKING POINT FOR ME IS THAT THIS SAYS IT IS A LOAN.
I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE TAKING THIS OUT OF THE CLT.
HONESTLY, WHAT I WANT PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE MORE TIME TO
TALK ABOUT THIS.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE STAFF -- I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO TALK TO

US INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT THESE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM
TO UNDERSTAND IT A BIT BETTER.
I DON'T THINK DOING IT IN THE PUBLIC REALM IS A WISE
DECISION.
12:17:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MS. FEELEY, WOULD THAT BE AMENABLE TO
YOU, MEET WITH US AND FURTHER EXPLAIN WHERE THE MONEY IS
COMING FROM AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED?
12:17:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
ABSOLUTELY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SET A DATE FOR WHEN TO BRING THESE TWO
BACK --
12:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOVEMBER 7 OR MORE TIME?
12:17:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU AND I HAVE ALREADY HAD THE
CONVERSATION.
I KNOW SOME OF THE PROBLEM IS WHICH HAD PROPOSED A MILLAGE
INCREASE THAT WE'D HAVE MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME AND THAT DID
NOT PASS.
I THINK THIS IS PART OF WHY THIS IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE OF
THE ANTICIPATED REVENUE AND, OF COURSE, WE ALSO HAD A
REVENUE SHORTFALL FOR FY '25.
IT WASN'T AS GREAT AS WE HAD ANTICIPATED.
WHAT DATE -- YEAH, I GUESS SO.
BRING IT BACK WHEN?

12:18:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MS. KOPESKY, WHAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU.
12:18:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE COME UP TO THE LECTERN SO WE CAN
GET IT ON THE RECORD.
12:18:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ACCORDING TO THIS CALENDAR, NOVEMBER 21st
IS AVAILABLE, BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS ACTUALLY
TRUE.
NOW THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THE HEARING ON DECEMBER 5, WE COULD
DO DECEMBER 5.
12:18:28PM >> KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
AS LONG AS THAT TIME FRAME WORKS FOR MS. FEELEY BECAUSE I
KNOW THERE WILL BE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN ALL OF US, I WOULD
HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT DATE.
12:18:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S DO NOVEMBER 5.
12:18:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE.
12:18:43PM >> 12-5.
12:18:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
39.
12:18:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE CALENDAR, THAT
BRINGS YOU TO 8 ITEMS.
AS LONG AS COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THAT, THAT'S FINE TOO.
12:19:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S KIND OF A TWO FOR ONE.
12:19:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT IS A CONSENT ITEM.
12:19:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHICH ITEMS?
12:19:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
39 AND 40.
12:19:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO THE 39 AND I HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM 40.
12:19:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 39 TO 12/5/2024.

12:19:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
THIS IS JUST FOR 39 TO CONTINUE TO 12/5.
ALL IN FAVOR?
SECOND BY ...
12:19:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 40 TO
12/5/2024.
12:19:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M RECUSING MYSELF BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR
PROPERTY IS ON THE SAME BLOCK ON WHICH I RESIDE.
12:19:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT JUST GOT POWER THIS MORNING.
12:19:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF?
12:19:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE FOR ME I COULD HAVE FINANCIAL GAIN
FROM THIS.
I JUST BELIEVE IT.
FOR ME, IT IS A CAUTIONARY TALE AND MEASURE SO I'M
UNCOMFORTABLE BEING A PART OF THIS VOTE.
12:20:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:20:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MY --
12:20:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM 40 YOU'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO CONTINUE.
12:20:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO 12/5.
12:20:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 40 TO 12/5 AND
ACCOMPANYING 39.

MOTION FROM CLENDENIN, SECOND MIRANDA.
12:20:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
KICKING ME OUT OF THE WEBINAR ON THESE ITEMS.
12:20:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:

[INDISCERNIBLE]
YOU GOT YOUR EXERCISE.
12:20:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SEE YOU IN DECEMBER.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THAT WAS JUST THE CONTINUANCE.
12:20:43PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE AND HURTAK ABSTAINING.
12:20:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 41 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS?
12:21:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ALREADY DID AND WE VOTED.
12:21:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD.
I'M SORRY.
ITEM 56 AND 57.
ITEM 56 AND 57 ARE VERY LARGE ITEMS.
YES, SIR, I SEE YOU HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD?
12:21:23PM >>ERIC WEISS:
WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
I'M HERE FOR ITEM 56.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME.
IT IS A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT OVER 20 MILLION.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
12:21:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
12:21:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST -- YOU ALL WERE HERE TWO WEEKS AGO AND
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
IT'S BEEN A REALLY, REALLY LONG TWO WEEKS.
FEELS MORE LIKE TWO MONTHS.
I WANTED TO PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YES, WE DID TALK
ABOUT THIS A LITTLE MORE IN-DEPTH WITH A PRESENTATION TWO
WEEKS AGO.
12:21:51PM >>ERIC WEISS:
WE DID, YES.
12:21:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
THAT WAS FOR 56.
12:22:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I ALSO WANTED TO SAY AND SHOULD SAY THIS TO
ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, BUT THANK YOU FOR MAKING
YOURSELVES AVAILABLE.
WE HAD CONSTITUENTS WITH REALLY BAD ISSUES.
YOU MADE YOURSELF AVAILABLE PRETTY MUCH 24/7 AND YOUR TEAM.
SO THANK YOU.

12:22:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM 57 IS $4.2 MILLION PROJECT.
THIS IS REGARDING STREET RESURFACING AND MILLING.
A GOOD THING.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
ANYBODY HERE FROM STAFF?
ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 57.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
I THINK THAT CONCLUDES THE ENTIRE AGENDA.
I HAVE MINOR STUFF.
YES, LISA.
THIS IS THE CANCELED WORKSHOP AGENDA JUST SO WE HAVE IT.
IF I MAY BEGIN.
12:22:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I GET, MS. SCHARF, CAN YOU BRING MY
PERSONAL PHONE SO I CAN LOOK UP CALENDAR DATES?
THANK YOU.
12:23:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
12:23:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO WHILE WE WAIT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK TO GET HER

PERSONAL PHONE, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT DATES TO RESCHEDULE THE
WORKSHOP ITEMS FROM THE CANCELED SEPTEMBER 26 WORKSHOP.
WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED HERE AS YOU SEE A CANCELED AGENDA FOR US
TO REVIEW.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SHELBY?
CAN WE DO THIS AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING,
NOVEMBER 7.
12:23:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, SURE.
12:23:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I KNOW OUR BRAINS ARE FRIED.
YOU HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND STUFF.
12:23:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONCE I HAVE MY CALENDAR, I'M HAPPY TO SET IT
AND LET'S JUST GET IT DONE.
12:23:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IN THE MEANTIME, FOR ITEM NUMBER 6,
WHICH I BELIEVE IS MY MOTION, I DON'T MIND MOVING THAT TO
FEBRUARY 27, 2025.
I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT TO CATCH UP ON IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
IF THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER.
12:24:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
WE JUST SCHEDULED AN EXTRA MEETING, THAT NIGHT MEETING ON
THE 28th --
12:24:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TUESDAY THE 28th.
12:24:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY DON'T WE RESCHEDULE THAT WORKSHOP FOR
THAT MORNING.
12:24:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT A GENIUS.
28th OF JANUARY BUT IT IS A TUESDAY.

IT WOULD BE A 9 A.M. WORKSHOP AND THEN A 5:01 P.M. PUBLIC
HEARING.
12:24:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LIKE OUR NORMAL ROUTINE.
12:24:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JANUARY 28.
THE TUESDAY THAT WE HAVE THE 5:01 P.M. ITEM THAT WE JUST SET
TODAY.
12:24:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN COME BACK.
12:24:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY WITH THAT, COUNCIL MEMBERS?
12:25:18PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:25:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT.
THE STREETCAR -- WELL, THAT WILL BE TENTATIVE BECAUSE WE TRY
TO FINISH BY 1, IF I CAN MAKE IT.
TSA I'LL -- CAN I DRIVE THERE AND BACK.
I'M GOOD WITH TUESDAY, JANUARY 28 AT 9 A.M. FOR THE
WORKSHOP.
FOR ITEM NUMBER 6, I CAN CONTINUE IT TO FEBRUARY 27, BUT
IT'S SO CLOSE.
12:26:03PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:26:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I'M ON THAT BOARD, TOO.
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE ON THAT BOARD.
12:26:12PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:26:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN I GET A MOTION --
12:26:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOTION TO MOVE ALL AGENDA ITEMS
PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2024, TO
JANUARY 28 AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING.

12:26:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ITEM NUMBER 1 NEEDS TO BE SOONER THAN
JANUARY BECAUSE THE CONTRACT EXPIRES IN APRIL.
SO THAT IS THE CHALLENGE THAT I BROUGHT UP WHEN WE DISCUSSED
IT BEFORE.
12:27:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE END OF A REGULAR
MEETING?
12:27:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WANT TO DO THAT NOW SO IT CAN BE
OFFICIAL.
REMEMBER, WE SAID WE COULD ADD IT LIKE A NON-WORKSHOP DAY
BUT HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.
12:27:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW ABOUT NOVEMBER 21st?
THAT IS A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
12:27:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CAN'T BE NOVEMBER 21st.
12:27:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
RUNNING OUT OF DATE.
12:27:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT'S FLORIDA CLASSIC -- JUST KIDDING.
I'LL TAKE NOVEMBER 21st.
12:27:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU MEAN THE FLORIDA CLASSIC THAT SHOULD
BE BROUGHT BACK TO TAMPA.
12:27:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE AN EVENING MEETING THAT DAY.
SO WE'RE DOING IT IN THE MORNING?
12:27:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THOUGHT WE CANCELED THE EVENING.
12:28:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NOVEMBER 21st HAS AN EVENING ON THE
CALENDAR.
12:28:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS A LARGE NIGHT MEETING.
TEN ITEMS FOR THAT NIGHT.

12:28:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE CONTRACT EXPIRES IN APRIL.
THEY ARE REDEVELOPING THE PLAN THEY ARE PRESENTING TO THE
PUBLIC.
12:28:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DECEMBER 19 IS A REGULAR COUNCIL
MEETING.
12:28:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS SOONER.
THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME.
12:28:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, IF I CAN, JUST A REMINDER THAT
EVEN THOUGH YOU DO HAVE A NIGHT MEETING, YOU DO HAVE ONLY
FIVE STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS SET FOR NOVEMBER
21st OR DID WE ADD MORE?
12:28:58PM >> [INAUDIBLE] WE ADDED ONE TODAY TO NOVEMBER 21st.
ACTUALLY IT WILL BE SIX.
12:29:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE HAVE ROOM FOR ONE MORE UNDER THE RULES
FOR NOVEMBER 21st.
THE LAST MEETING BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
12:29:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AMEND MY MOTION TO MOVE ALL THE ITEMS
EXCEPT ITEM 1, MOVE THAT TO DECEMBER 21st.
12:29:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NOT DECEMBER.
12:29:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY.
NOVEMBER 21st DURING STAFF REPORTS.
12:29:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
12:29:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS BEING A TUESDAY, MADAM
CLERK, WOULD WE CALL THIS A SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP?
THE MOTION WOULD CALL SPECIAL -- 9 A.M.
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
12:29:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
THIS IS NOT A MOTION, BUT IN REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT,
I'M GOING TO BE GOING OUT TO ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AFTER
I EAT SOMETHING BECAUSE I HAVEN'T EATEN SINCE YESTERDAY,
GOING TO GO OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER CITY HALL.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THE STORMWATER ENGINEERING FOLKS
IN REGARDS TO PARKLAND ESTATES AND IN REGARDS TO THE AREA
NORTH OF SWANN, NORTH OF AZEELE THERE THAT WAS FLOODED,
WHICH IS HABANA, WHICH WAS HORATIO, THERE ARE OTHER STREETS
THAT I HAVE A LETTER HERE.
I CAN PUT IN THE RECORD.
GIVEN AT PUBLIC COMMENT.
SAYS WE SUPPORT A DESIGN AND PUBLIC INPUT PROJECT.
WE OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONFLICT WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT IT ONE WAY.
ANOTHER STREET, LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS TO DO.
WE'VE BEEN BLAMED THIS IS A FAILURE ON THE CITY.
CAN YOU BEAT MOTHER NATURE?

THAT IS A YES-OR-NO QUESTION.
FOLKS GETTING LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER DURING A REGULAR
RAINSTORM, I DON'T THINK REALLY IS -- THERE'S SOMETHING
CLEARLY WRONG HERE.
I'LL CHECK OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER THIS.
I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD ASK THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT TO
REEVALUATE THIS ENTIRE AREA AND LOOK AT ALL DIFFERENT
OPTIONS AND WHAT WE CAN DO, EITHER REPRIORITIZING PROJECTS
BECAUSE THE STORMWATER SYSTEM HAS BEEN IN PLACE ALMOST EIGHT
YEARS.
TO DO SOMETHING.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, CLENDENIN, CARLSON.
12:31:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MIGHT RECOMMEND SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT
MR. VIERA HAS DONE UP IN FOREST HILLS AND SIMPLY HAVE A
COMMUNITY MEETING TO BEGIN WITH THAT INCLUDES --
12:31:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAD IT TODAY.
12:31:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DID HAVE IT TODAY BUT DIDN'T HAVE IT THERE.
DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE COMMUNITY.
QUITE FRANKLY, A BIG PART OF THE MEETING THAT HAPPENED AT
FOREST HILLS WAS PEOPLE GETTING OUT WHAT THEY NEEDED TO SAY
TO TAKING SOME IDEAS DOWN.
THERE IS NEVER A TIME I THINK THAT LISTENING TO PEOPLE IS A
BAD IDEA.
BUT -- I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT NOW BECAUSE SEVERAL MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC SAID THIS.

WHEN PUBLIC COMMENT STARTED, EVERY DIRECTOR OF THIS CITY GOT
UP AND LEFT.
THAT IS NOT OKAY.
THAT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK.
I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE CONTROL A BUDGET.
THE MAYOR AND THESE DIRECTORS PUT THAT MONEY WHERE IT NEEDS
TO GO.
THEY NEED TO BE HERE TO HEAR IT.
12:32:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
EXACTLY.
12:32:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, I WOULD
RECOMMEND --
12:32:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
CLENDENIN, CARLSON, HENDERSON.
12:33:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PIGGYBACK A LITTLE ON WHAT HURTAK SAID, I
WISH THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC.
MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE SPOKEN AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE AT
LEAST WE COULD HAVE SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT OF WHAT THE
RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS COUNCIL IS.
WE DO LAND USE.
WE DO BUDGETS.
BUT THE ACTUAL OPERATION OF THE CITY AND WHERE THAT MONEY IS
SPENT AND HOW IT IS SPENT IS DONE BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
I AGREE AS FAR AS THE LISTENING.
I'VE BEEN BOUNCING THAT SAME CONCEPT, PUTTING TOGETHER A
PUBLIC FORUM.

I HAVE NOT DONE ONE YET.
I'M STILL ENTERTAINING WHAT THE VALUE ADDED FOR MYSELF.
A COUPLE OF US ARE CITYWIDE.
I THINK SOMETIMES IT IS THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT PEOPLE, A
LITTLE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN US THAT ARE CITYWIDE.
CLEARLY -- I SAID THIS IN MY EARLIER STATEMENT AFTER THE
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
WE ALL KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT, OH, A HURRICANE HIT.
WE KNEW IT WAS COMING.
THE CLOCK WAS TICKING.
THE FLOODING THAT OCCURS -- NOW, THE FLOODING THAT OCCURRED
IN SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE OF THE RAINFALL AND MILTON COMPOUNDED
WHAT WE ALREADY KNEW WAS AN EXISTING CONDITION.
THE CONDITION EXISTED.
IT JUST WAS WORSE BECAUSE, AGAIN, NOT A SURPRISE BECAUSE
I'VE LIVED IN SOUTH TAMPA FOR 39 YEARS.
I LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HAD SALTWATER FLOODING IN MY HOUSE AND SEWAGE, BY THE WAY,
IN MY HOUSE.
I FEEL EVERYBODY'S PAIN.
THE DIFFERENCE IS I DO HAVE INSURANCE.
MY HEART BREAKS FOR THE FOLKS THAT DON'T.
I WAS UP IN FOREST HILLS.
I TOURED A FAMILY'S HOUSE AND IT BROKE MY HEART BECAUSE THEY

HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
MOTHER, FATHER, THREE KIDS LIVING IN A COMPLETELY
WATERLOGGED, WATER-SOAKED HOUSE THAT HAD POOP WATER
INTRUSION BUT CAN'T AFFORD TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
THIS WAS THEIR CASTLE.
PROBABLY SCRAPED TOGETHER EVERY BIT OF RESOURCES.
BROKE MY HEART.
CRIED AFTERWARDS SEEING THAT CONDITION BECAUSE THEY HAD
NOWHERE ELSE.
I FORWARDED THAT INFORMATION TO CHIEF BENNETT TO SEE WHAT
THE CITY COULD DO.
BUT, AGAIN, THE PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH TAMPA, THE
FOREST HILLS, FOWLER, ROBLES PARK, SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS,
THE SOLUTION IS DIFFERENT.
THE ELEVATION, THE STORMWATER PIPES GETTING FILLED, WHERE IS
THE WATER GOING TO GO?
DO YOU PUMP IT UPHILL TO A RETENTION POND?
IF YOU GO DOWNHILL, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH PARKLAND
ESTATES.
ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF SWANN, GUESS WHICH WAY THE
WATER GOES, HEADS TOWARDS PARKLAND ESTATES.
THAT'S WHERE IT'S HEADING.
WE'VE SEEN THAT SINCE -- I RAN ON A SOUTH TAMPA PLATFORM.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT.
WE'VE HAD A LOT ABOUT -- LOT SPLITS, OPPOSED FOR THIS VERY

REASON.
I'M ALL ABOUT BUILDING DENSITY ALONG TRANSPORTATION
CORRIDORS BECAUSE IF WE CONCENTRATE THE DENSITY ALONG THESE
LARGER TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND STRATEGIC AREAS OF THE
CITY, WE CAN BUILD THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE TO
ACCOMMODATE THESE TYPES OF EVENTS.
I DON'T SEE HOW IN THE WORLD YOU CAN'T BUILD STUFF IN SOUTH
TAMPA BECAUSE WHERE IS THE WATER GOING TO GO.
ONE THING, I KNOW SOMEONE SAID ABOUT FLOWING TO THE BAY, THE
PROBLEM IS AGAIN THE BAY GOES UP INTO THIS INFRASTRUCTURE.
UNLESS WE PUMP IT AWAY FROM THE BAY AND UPSTREAM, BECAUSE I
WATCHED IT, WE HAVE A STORMWATER RETENTION POND IN FRONT OF
MY PLACE AND I WATCHED THE LEVEL OF WATER RISE WITH NO
RAINFALL.
I CAN SEE BECAUSE THE GROUNDWATER.
RIGHT NOW, THE GROUNDWATER IS SO HIGH THAT LITERALLY YOU
COULD DIG EIGHT INCHES BELOW THE GROUND AND YOU'RE HITTING
GROUNDWATER.
THERE IS NOWHERE FOR THE FREAKIN' WATER TO GO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SHORT TERM -- I HONESTLY, ENGINEERING
IS DIFFICULT.
I THINK THE COST OF THIS IS DIFFICULT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION FOR SOME OF
THESE PLACES.
SOME OF THE MORE OBVIOUS PLACES AGAIN AS WE GET FURTHER AND

FURTHER AWAY FROM THE BAY, AREAS THAT ARE 55 FEET, 60 FEET,
I'M SURE THERE ARE STORMWATER RETENTION THINGS, PUMPS,
MAKING SURE WE HAVE GENERATORS.
THOSE KIND OF THINGS WE CAN DO TODAY AS A CITY, IF WE CAN
FIND THE MONEY.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE ENGINEERED.
I DON'T THINK IT'S AS OBVIOUS AND NOT AS SIMPLE AS SOME
PEOPLE MAKE IT OUT TO BE.
THESE AREAS HAVE BEEN PLAGUED BY FLOODS.
ONE OF THE FRESHWATER FLOOD EVENTS IN PARKLAND ESTATES
MONTHS AGO I WANTED TO SEE HOW BAD IT WAS.
I ALMOST FLOODED OUT MY CAR JUST GOING THROUGH DURING A
NORMAL RAIN EVENT.
IT WASN'T LIKE A TEN INCH RAIN EVENT.
IT WAS LIKE A THREE INCH RAIN EVENT.
AND THERE WERE FLOODED OUT CARS.
WATER WAS ALL THE WAY UP TO PEOPLE'S THRESHOLDS AND THAT WAS
A NORMAL RAIN EVENT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
WE'RE BLESSED BY ALL THE WATER SURROUNDED.
MAJOR RIVER RUNNING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY.
LOOK AT THAT ENGINEERING PROJECT WITH THE BYPASS CANAL.
CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THE CITY WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE DIDN'T
HAVE THAT BYPASS CANAL AND THE CITY DIDN'T MANAGE AND DRAW

DOWN WATER AND DO THE THINGS THEY DID PRIOR TO STORM.
PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS FAR AS THE
SCOPE AND SCALE.
AS WE GET INTO THIS CLIMATE CHANGE DRIVEN FLOODING, THIS
ISN'T GOING TO BE THE FIRST TIME THIS HAPPENS.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYBODY TELLING ME ONCE EVERY HUNDRED
YEARS, EVERY 300 YEARS.
THESE WILL BE CYCLING EVERY YEAR OR EVERY OTHER YEAR.
WELCOME TO THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT AND UNDERSTAND WHATEVER
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT FIXES THIS, AIN'T GOING TO BE CHEAP.
12:39:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST TO CLARIFY, REQUEST BY THE CHIEF OF STAFF THAT STAFF DO
THE PRESENTATION AND GO.
IT WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.
WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT.
I GET IT.
THE SUGGESTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND OTHERS, LIKE
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA DID, COMMUNITY MEETING, DID IT GET
PASSIONATE AND HEATED?
ABSOLUTELY.
BUT IT WAS A NECESSARY THING.
12:39:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONE OF THE CONCEPTS AS I WAS PLAYING WITH
THE IDEA OF DOING THE TOWN HALL WAS NOT NECESSARILY HAVING
STAFF THERE BECAUSE AGAIN I THINK PEOPLE'S EXPECTATION IS

STAFF CAN DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW.
ALLOWING PEOPLE TO TALK.
TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT WERE YOUR OBSERVATIONS?
HOW DID THIS IMPACT YOUR LIFE?
WHAT DID YOU SEE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT HAVE YOU OBSERVED?
I THINK THAT IS VALUABLE.
VALUES IN TWO THINGS.
ONE, PEOPLE NEED TO BE HEARD.
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE -- AND THEY WANT TO HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
THIS IS A MICROCOSM OF THE LARGER CITY, WHAT WE SEE COMES UP
FOR TAMPA.
AND ALSO, IT PROVIDES THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WE
CAN BRING IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE TALK TO THE
ADMINISTRATION OR TALK AMONGST OURSELVES AT COUNCIL,
SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE TO TRY TO FIND THOSE SOLUTIONS.
I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW -- IT'S KIND OF A BUILT-IN
ADVERSARIAL THING WHEN YOU HAVE THE FOLKS, DEPARTMENT HEADS
THERE AND PEOPLE ARE YELLING BACK AND FORTH.
12:40:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I UNDERSTAND.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:40:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU ALL REMEMBER MY BUSINESS IS
COMMUNICATION.
BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID A LOT WAS

PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, PUBLIC INPUT.
I FACILITATED THOSE MEETINGS LIKE THE OTHER NIGHT, AND I
ADVISED CLIENTS ON WHAT KIND OF EVENTS TO HAVE.
WHETHER THE MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT WAS A GOOD IDEA OR NOT,
I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN IT AT ALL.
THESE SITUATIONS, HAVING A BIG EVENT THAT COVERS A LOT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS IS ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG IDEA.
ONE OF THE REASONS IS FOR THE CONSTITUENT.
CONSTITUENTS DO WANT TO BE HEARD BUT A BIG MEETING LIKE THAT
ONLY A FEW PEOPLE CAN SPEAK.
WHAT THEY TYPICALLY DO IS HAVE YOU TEXT IN OR FILL OUT A
FORM OR SOMETHING.
EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ISSUE.
I'LL TELL YOU, PORT TAMPA HAD 8 FEET OF WATER.
PEOPLE'S HOUSES COMPLETELY WIPED OUT.
LIKE THREE OR FOUR HUNDRED METERS OF MANGROVES AND EIGHT
FEET OF WATER CAME OVER AND DEMOLISHED PEOPLES' HOUSES.
THAT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN AN AREA THAT HAS
NO MANGROVES AND NO BEACH.
JUST A SEAWALL, FOR EXAMPLE.
WHY DID THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN DIFFERENT WAYS?
BAY SIDE WEST, DEMOLISHED.
ALL THE WAY ACROSS GEORGETOWN APARTMENTS.
THAT IS LIKE THREE OR FOUR HUNDRED METERS OF LAND, ALL THE
WAY ACROSS THAT AND SEVERAL FEET OF WATER HIT.

CULBREATH BAYOU.
TRASH IS BEING PICKED UP.
THANK YOU LARRY AND CHIEF OF STAFF.
COACHMAN ROAD BEHIND STOVALL HOUSE, LAKE, RETENTION POND,
PROBABLY PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSES, BUT
LOW POINT WHERE THE WATER SINKS IN.
THEY CALLED US AND SAID THE WATER IS FLOODING US.
SO THERE WAS A STORMWATER PUMP ISSUE WHICH WE CAN TALK ABOUT
ANOTHER TIME.
AS I WAS THINKING, ERIC WEISS, ALSO A WASTEWATER PUMP ISSUE.
THEY NOT ONLY HAD STORMWATER FLOODING DOWN THE STREETS AND
SEVERAL FEET OF WATER THAT WIPED OUT ALL THEIR STUFF BUT
THEN ALSO A RIVER OF POO.
LOOKED LIKE CHOCOLATE AND CHARLIE FACTORY WITH MULTIMILLION
DOLLAR HOUSES.
THE UNIQUE SITUATION WITH THE PUMP STATIONS IS TOTALLY
DIFFERENT THAN A FEW BLOCKS AWAY.
BIG MEETING WITH LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
STEPHANIE AND I ARE GOING TO HELP THEM ORGANIZE THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AROUND AZEELE, FORMERLY CALLED
COURIER CITY, A BIG AREA.
THAT AREA, UNLESS THE HYDROLOGISTS COME THROUGH AND SAY IT'S
ALL PART OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND TRACKING, IT IS A
SUBCOMPONENT OF WHAT PARKLAND ESTATES IS DEALING WITH.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE SEPARATE THEM.

THE REASON WHY ALL THESE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS DIDN'T SHOW UP
TODAY IS NOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO AND DON'T HAVE
ISSUES, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND I, SOME OF YOU, STAFF HAVE
ALL BEEN PERSONALLY MEETING WITH THEM, TALKING TO THEM ABOUT
THEIR PARTICULAR ISSUES.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
THEY WANT TO BE HEARD BUT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT
AND TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS.
THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE PROBLEMS IN THE PAST AND WHY.
COACHMAN, IT WAS NOT JUST THE POWER WENT OUT BUT THEN THE
GENERATORS TURNED ON YOU.
IT'S NOT JUST A POWER ISSUE.
WHAT HAPPENED THE PIPE THAT IT DUMPS INTO IN THE BAY WAS
OVERWHELMED WITH WATER AND THE PUMP SHUT DOWN BECAUSE IT
COULDN'T PUMP THE WATER OUT ANYMORE.
IT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ISSUE.
ONE THING, ALSO, PEOPLE AS YOU HEARD ARE ASKING FOR
SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.
PARKLAND ESTATES HAS A BIG PARK.
SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS SAID WHY DON'T YOU DIG A RETENTION
POND THERE.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE IT IS HISTORIC PLACE.
MAYBE A TEMPORARY SOLUTION AND LONGER TERM SOLUTION.
AREA AROUND AZEELE, DIG DITCHES.
THERE IS ONE OVER AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE TO THE NORTH

UNDERNEATH THE PARKING LOT THERE.
APPARENTLY IT OVERWHELMED ALL THAT.
NOVEMBER 7, THERE IS AN ITEM SIMILAR TO THIS RELATED TO
PARKLAND ESTATES.
I WOULD RECOMMEND, CHAIR, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IN
REGARDING PARKLAND, THAT YOU ADD IT TO NOVEMBER 7 BECAUSE WE
ALREADY TOLD -- THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN 50 MORE PEOPLE HERE
TALKING ABOUT PARKLAND.
WE POINTED THEM TO NOVEMBER 7 WITH THE CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO
TALK ABOUT IT THEN.
ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT PARKLAND, I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT
IT THEN.
I ENCOURAGE, SEVERAL OF YOU TALKING TO THE AZEELE
NEIGHBORHOOD, PLEASE, GO TO MY DISTRICT AND TALK TO THEM.
ULTIMATELY WE NEED FOUR VOTES.
IF YOU WANT ME TO COME TO YOUR DISTRICT, HAPPY TO COME TO
YOUR DISTRICT TO SUPPORT YOU AS WELL.
WE NEED TO MEET SEPARATELY WITH THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE, I WAS TELLING THEM JUST
NOW WE CAN'T ALL MEET AT THE SAME TIME WITH THEM AND THE
STAFF AND THEY CAN CHOOSE WHO THEY WANT TO MEET WITH.
THEY LIKE THE WAY CHARLIE LOOKS BETTER THAN ME OR SMARTER
THAN ME --
[ LAUGHTER ]
OR BECAUSE CHARLIE IS WEARING -- ANYWAY, I'M JOKING.

HOWEVER, WE CAN GO IN AND MICROTARGET THESE NEIGHBORHOODS
AND SOLVE THEIR ISSUES.
THEN SEPARATELY, COME BACK AND I CAN MAKE A MOTION ON THIS,
WE NEED TO RELOOK AT THE STORMWATER PLAN CITYWIDE AND THAT
SHOULD INCLUDE PUBLIC MEETINGS ALL AROUND THE CITY AND
DIFFERENT PARTS TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF IT.
IN THE SHORT TERM, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO TRIAGE.
NEIGHBORHOODS SEEM TO APPRECIATE WE'RE COMING INTO THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD, LOOKING AT THEIR PARTICULAR UNIQUE SITUATION
AND TRYING TO SOLVE THAT.
THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE NEIGHBORING
PROBLEMS.
12:46:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HENDERSON AND VIERA.
12:46:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST FOR MY CURIOSITY, CHAIR, IS THIS ALSO
NEW BUSINESS OR JUST COMMENTING?
12:46:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I JUST MADE A COMMENT.
I'M GOING TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE AFTER I LEAVE HERE.
IT WAS A GENERAL THING, THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT WAS
LISTENING, JUST -- BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER.
12:46:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
UNDERSTOOD.
WELL, THIS WAS THE MOST INTERESTING MEETING THAT I'VE
ATTENDED BESIDES THE 3:00 IN THE MORNING ONE.
NEVERTHELESS, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT STAFF GETTING UP
AND LEAVING.
I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL KNOWS THIS AND I JUST WANT THE

PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT OUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES ARE IN FRONT OF
THEIR TVs WHEN THEY ARE NOT PRESENT IN FRONT OF US AND SO
IS THE STAFF.
THEY ARE LISTENING TO THESE MEETINGS AND BEING ABLE TO
MULTITASK IS AN AMAZING THING THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY WERE DISRESPECTING THE PUBLIC AND GETTING
UP AND LEAVING AND NOT CARING ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY
IMMEDIATELY.
YOU CAN NOTICE IT AT ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS, JUST LIKE BARBARA
TRIPP CHIMED IN ONLINE TODAY.
ABBYE COMES IN ALL THE TIME, EVEN IF IT IS LEGAL, WHOEVER
WORKS FOR US, THEY ARE LISTENING.
I WENT TO THE RESTROOM AND PASSED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA'S
OFFICE AND HIS AIDE HAS ON THE TV.
DARLENE HAS ON HER TV.
THEY ARE ALL LISTENING.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THE STAFF IS IGNORING THE
PUBLIC.
SO THE EFFICIENCY OF BEING ABLE TO GET UP AND GO TO YOUR
OFFICE AND STILL LISTEN TO WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY IS A
FAIR SHOT.
I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IT ANY OTHER WAY.
THE OTHER THING THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING TO ME, PARKLAND
ESTATES I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT AND EVEN SOME OF THE

LEARNING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE SURROUNDING
AREAS OF THE COMMUNITIES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
SOUTH TAMPA DOES FIGHT DIFFERENTLY.
THEY ALWAYS HAVE.
I THINK THEY PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL JUST BY NATURE OF IT BEING
ACROSS KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.
THEY DO THAT EVEN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO GET WHAT THEY
WANT.
AND IT IS AN EFFECTIVE METHOD.
ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY INDICATED THAT SHE WANTS
THE STORM TRUCKS THERE LIKE STARTING RIGHT NOW.
WE SHOULD BE PULLING OUT AND TAKING SOME TRUCKS OVER THERE
TO WORK FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
I KNOW THAT IT COMES FROM AN EMOTIONAL PLACE.
I KNOW THAT -- I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY SHE FEELS THAT WAY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT NECESSARILY WORKS THAT WAY OR EVEN IF
THAT IS POSSIBLE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN AND HOW DO WE PICK ONE
AREA OVER ANOTHER, WHO SHOULD BE A PRIORITY, I DON'T KNOW.
I DO KNOW PARKLAND ESTATES IS AN ISSUE.
I LITERALLY VISITED THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT FIXING THE PROBLEM BUT ALSO THE
PRESERVATION BECAUSE IT IS A VERY, VERY BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY
WITH SOME EXTREMELY NICE HOMES.
I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM STORMWATER BECAUSE I THINK

THAT THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE
EXPEDITE IT, BUT IF IT BRINGS ABOUT A SOLUTION FASTER, I
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT TO WHOEVER THE STAFF LISTENING, PLEASE
REACH OUT TO ME SO I CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT STORMWATER BECAUSE
I KNOW THERE IS A PLAN FOR PARKLAND ESTATES.
IT HASN'T BEEN IGNORED.
AND THE GOVERNMENT HASN'T DONE NOTHING.
THAT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT TRUE BECAUSE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE BEEN
COMPLAINING ABOUT IT OR EVEN FOR ME, I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL
FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND I KNOW ABOUT IT, THERE'S NO WAY
THAT THE STAFF IS NOT DOING ANYTHING.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS SO WE CAN
COMMUNICATE THAT EFFECTIVELY TO OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE I
CARE ABOUT EVERY ASPECT, NOT JUST DISTRICT 5, BUT EVERY
ASPECT.
WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THE ENTIRE
CITY.
THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T
SEE, LIKE HOW ROBIN LOCKETT CAME TODAY AND SPOKE, THERE ARE
65,000 RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT 5.
AND SOMETIMES A VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO
COME FROM DISTRICT 5 CONSISTENTLY -- CONSISTENTLY -- THEY DO
NOT SPEAK FOR ALL OF THE 65,000 RESIDENTS IN EAST TAMPA.

OR IN DISTRICT 5.
SO THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE MAY NOT BE IN
FRONT OF US, A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS, THAT'S NOT HOW THEY
FIGHT.
THEY MAKE PERSONAL PHONE CALLS.
THEY WRITE LETTERS.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
THEY SHARE INFORMATION.
ONE OF THEM IS HERE.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT WILL SEND YOU AN ARTICLE IN A HEARTBEAT
OR SOMETHING THAT GIVES A HISTORICAL CONTEXT OR JUST
INFORMATION THAT IS VERY VALUABLE TO THE LEARNING PROCESS
FOR ALL OF US.
SO I APPRECIATE THINGS LIKE THAT.
EVERYONE'S FIGHT IS JUST DIFFERENT.
I WANT TO ALSO CLOSE IT WITH THIS, TOO, IN TERMS OF WHEN I
TALKED ABOUT THE MILLAGE, I KNOW THAT IT COULD BE ANY KIND
OF MONEY, WHETHER CIT OR EVEN MILLAGE.
ME SAYING THAT WAS NOT A REPRIMAND TO THE CITY, BUT I DO
KNOW THAT OUR $1.8 BILLION BUDGET IS ACTUALLY UTILIZED AND
IT IS STRETCHED TO CAPACITY.
WE JUST, WHEN WE APPROVED THE $1.5 MILLION FOR ROUTE ONE
BUS, THAT MONEY CAME UNDER THE PART OF OUR BUDGET.
THINGS COST MONEY IN THE CITY.
SO I KNOW THAT STORMWATER, THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S JUST A FEW

MILLION DOLLARS.
WHATEVER THE COST IS GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF RESOLVING THIS
ISSUE, I KNOW THAT IT IS SIGNIFICANT AND THE MONEY WILL HAVE
TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
THAT IS A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT MONEY ACTUALLY -- ALL OF THAT MONEY
WOULD EXIST IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET.
IT WILL HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE OR WE'LL HAVE TO DO
THINGS DIFFERENTLY IN THE CITY.
BUT I DO FEEL AS THOUGH -- GOSH, WHAT IS THIS THOUGHT ABOUT?
I WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING THINGS,
ADDING DENSITY TO PLACES WHERE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES WAS AND
DIDN'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR STORMWATER, I WOULD LIKE FOR
STAFF TO GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ON THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE
VOTE ON THESE THINGS, WE RELY ON STAFF.
SO IF THAT PART IS BEING LEFT OUT AND WE'RE MAKING A
DECISION ABOUT A PRETTY BUILDING BUT NOT LOOKING AT THE
UNDERBELLY OF THE THINGS THAT CAN IMPACT THOSE DECISIONS,
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S IT FOR ME.
THANK YOU.
12:53:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND MIRANDA.
12:53:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE LONG BECAUSE WE WANT TO
MOVE FORWARD.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT I DO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO HAVE
COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WE HAD ONE ON TUESDAY.
IT ACTUALLY WENT VERY WELL.
IT WAS EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL.
I TELL PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE ANGRY THERE, LISA WAS THERE, I
WOULD BE JUST AS ANGRY AS THE PEOPLE OUT THERE TODAY.
I SAW NOTHING INAPPROPRIATE.
GOT TO BE COMMUNITY BASED.
GOT TO BE BASED ON THE COMMUNITY ONE TONIGHT FOR UNIVERSITY
AREA PROBABLY MOVED TO NEXT TUESDAY.
SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
I'M HITTING REALLY HARD, AS HARD AS I CAN FOR THESE
COMMUNITIES IN NORTH TAMPA.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING-CLASS COMMUNITIES.
THEY ARE BLUE COLLAR COMMUNITIES.
PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK COMMUNITIES.
YOU GET TO UNIVERSITY AREA AND TIMBERFALLS, THEY ARE LOWER
INCOME, MANY OF THEM WORKING FAMILY COMMUNITIES.
COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THESE NORTH TAMPA
COMMUNITIES, IN ALL OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA, BUT ON PEOPLE WHO
DON'T NECESSARILY SHOW UP HERE, SOUTH TAMPA, STORIES I HEARD
OUT THERE THAT BREAK MY HEART.
HELD A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETING TWO NIGHTS AGO WITH KATHY

CASTOR'S OFFICE, DAVID ADAMS WAS THERE.
KNOWN HIM A LONG TIME.
ALL OF THESE STORIES BREAK MY HEART.
I WANT TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON
THAT, THOSE WORKING CLASS BLUE COLLAR COMMUNITIES.
SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY
EMOTIONAL MEETINGS.
PROBABLY HELD ABOUT 75 OR 80 TOWN HALLS SINCE I'VE BEEN
ELECTED THAT YOU HAVE STAFF TALK AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,
PLEASE, PLEASE, ALL OF YOU ALL, HAVE STAFF BRIEF YOU ON WHAT
THEY ARE GOING TO SAY.
SOMETIMES YOU RUN -- THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
WHEN YOU DO QUESTION AND ANSWER, YOU BREAK UP AFTER ABOUT 45
MINUTES AND THEN YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL.
WE WERE OUT THERE HOUR AND A HALF AFTERWARDS.
LONG LINE OF 50 PEOPLE TO TALK TO ME.
SPOKE WITH EVERY ONE OF THEM.
MEETING THEM AT THEIR HOMES TOMORROW AND THIS WEEK.
THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.
YOU'LL STILL HAVE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE ANGRY.
GUESS WHAT, SO LONG AS THEY DON'T BREAK THE LAW OR ANYTHING,
THEY ARE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY.
THEY ARE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND HAVE A STREET, WHATEVER

STREET, GO LOOK.
I'LL MEET YOU AT THE STOP SIGN.
GATHER 20 PEOPLE, LET'S TALK.
PEOPLE WANT TO SEE US, HEAR FROM US, LIKE IS HAPPENING.
AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS LIKE THIS, I'M A BIG FAN, VERY
EMOTIONAL ISSUE.
GOT TO BE DONE IN A VERY CAREFUL WAY, IN A VERY, VERY
CAREFUL WAY.
I WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE RESULT OF THE MEETING BECAUSE I
KNEW IT WOULD BE EMOTIONAL.
AGAIN, IF THAT WAS MY HOUSE AND I WAS IN A NO FLOOD ZONE AND
GOT FLOODED AND READ THINGS IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES.
THIS CUBAN CAFE CON LECHE WOULD BE VERY, VERY HOT.
12:56:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
FIRST OF ALL THIS AREA, THIS AREA, THE CITY, WHY DON'T WE
HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ALL THE PEOPLE IN STORMWATER
REGARDING DISTRICT 4, DISTRICT 5, DISTRICT 6, AND DISTRICT
7.
THAT WAY ALL OF THEM ARE TAKEN IN BECAUSE ALL OF THEM ARE
THE SAME AND ALL OF THEM ARE DIFFERENT AND DIFFERENT VALUES
OF NOT ONLY THE HOUSEHOLD, OF FLOODING.
I THINK ALL OF US SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHING ALONG WITH THAT,
THE ADMINISTRATION GIVES US THE MONEY SPENT FOR THE TOTAL
YEAR OF 2023 -- 2024 REALLY NOW, OF THE MONEY SPENT IN
DISTRICT 4, 5, 6, 7, SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'VE

DONE AND WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD LET THEM
KNOW.
THE MONIES SPENT IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
THAT'S NOT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DO.
KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
DONE IT BEFORE.
TIME-CONSUMING BUT SURE THEY HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING
IT DONE VERY QUICKLY.
THAT MOTION WAS MADE ABOUT THIS AREA AND THIS AREA.
WHY DON'T WE HAVE THEM COME AND TALK ABOUT THE CITY AS A
WHOLE WHICH INCLUDES -- THE AREAS.
THAT WAY EVERYBODY IN THE DISTRICT KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON.
INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD, MAKE IT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN DISTRICT
4 AND WE TALK SPECIFICALLY ONE AT A TIME.
WE UNDERSTAND AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AT AND WHERE
WE ARE GOING.
12:57:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:57:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BASICALLY YOU ARE ASKING FOR THEM TO TAKE
THEIR QUARTERLY WRITTEN REPORT AND JUST BRING IT FORWARD AND
TALK ABOUT IT.
12:57:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
EXACTLY.
12:57:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAKE IT PUBLIC.
12:57:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FROM THE YEAR END BUDGET THAT ENDED
SEPTEMBER 30, WHATEVER IT WAS, THAT THE MONEY SPENT FOR THAT

TOTAL YEAR, 2024 AND THIS IS WHERE IT WENT.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING -- I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE CIT TAX.
IF IT'S SO GREAT, LET ME JUST TELL YOU ONE THING.
THEY ARE GETTING MORE -- THEY ARE GETTING MORE THAN PUBLIC
WORKS ARE GETTING.
MORE MONEY THAN POLICE AND FIRE FOR THE TOTAL 15 YEARS ON
ONE SECTION ALONE.
THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING ELSE.
IF YOU THINK I'M WRONG, PROVE ME.
I READ THE RECORD.
READ EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
THEY ARE SPENDING MORE MONEY GIVING IT AWAY TO TWO
CORPORATIONS, ONE WORTH OVER 6 BILLION, OVER 2 BILLION THAT
WE'RE GETTING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
I WILL CHALLENGE ANYBODY IN THE GOVERNMENT OR IN THOSE TWO
ENTITIES TO HAVE A DEBATE WITH US OR ME, WHATEVER THEY WANT.
BECAUSE I CAN PROVE EVERYTHING I'M SAYING.
ALONE THEY MADE OVER 65 MILLION ON SOMETHING THEY DON'T
SPEND ONE PENNY ON.
EVENT IN ONE LOCATION.
WHY AM I GIVING $65 MILLION TO THEM?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS IN THE PAST, A PERSON THAT PASSED IN
1996, SEPTEMBER 6 OF '96, THERE WAS A PRO FORMA, HOW THE

MONEY WOULD GO TO THEM.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM.
I'VE SEEN ONLY LUMP NUMBERS.
WHY AND HOW WE DID IT?
TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, WE TOOK A VOTE.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE VOTE WAS.
I KNOW IT WAS FOR OR AGAINST.
THAT'S IT.
FOR OR AGAINST WHAT?
NO ONE EXPLAINED IT, DID THEY, AND WE SWALLOWED IT.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
I DON'T DO THAT.
I'M TELLING YOU, IF THAT VOTE PASSES THE WAY IT IS, WE HAVE
NO CONTROL, PERIOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:59:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEFORE I GO INTO NEW BUSINESS, I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY
CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF NORENE COPELAND MILLER WHO
PASSED AWAY.
RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION FROM MS. AILEEN HENDERSON.
AS YOU KNOW, MS. COPELAND MILLER WAS A SUPERHERO IN THE
COMMUNITY WITH THE CEMETERIES, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, JUST
EVERYTHING.
JUST A TREMENDOUS LOSS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SOMEONE WHO
WAS A REGULAR HERE AT CITY COUNCIL AND EXTREMELY INVOLVED

ALL THE TIME.
MY CONDOLENCES TO HER FAMILY.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE NEW BUSINESS?
1:00:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TWO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I NEED FIVE MINUTES ON NOVEMBER 7 FOR CHUCK GARDNER FOR
TAMPA BAY WATER TO GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW.
SORRY IT IS LATE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BEFORE THE YEAR
ENDS.
1:00:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
1:00:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND ONE, MAKE A COMMENDATION BUT I
DON'T KNOW WHERE, BUT I'VE GOT TO SPEAK TO THE COACH.
JOSE FERNANDEZ HAS BEEN THE HEAD COACH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
SOUTH FLORIDA FOR 25 YEARS WOMEN'S BASKETBALL.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANY COACH IN TODAY'S SOCIETY TO HAVE
A JOB -- DOING ONE HELL OF A JOB.
1:01:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH THE MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

1:01:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS.
NUMBER ONE, AND I'VE TALKED, SAID I WAS GOING TO DO THIS.
I WANT TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK AND HAVE A REPORT.
LET'S SEE HOW WE WANT TO TAKE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THIS
STORM, GUESS WHAT, EVERYTHING HAPPENED ON FRIDAY.
TODAY IS THURSDAY.
IDEAS COME UP, ET CETERA.
LONG STORY SHORT AS I SAID, I WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF AN
INDEPENDENT LOOK, NOT DONE BY THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN CHARGE
OF IT.
I BELIEVE IN TRUST BUT VERIFY.
AT WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOLLOWING THE
STORMS AS IT RELATES TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, MY PERSONAL WISH
IS THAT IT IS BOTH CITY AND COUNTY BECAUSE I KNOW EAST
COUNTY HAS A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
SOMETIMES WE SHARE INFRASTRUCTURE.
A LOT OF PRIVITY THERE, OBVIOUSLY.
I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS ALL FOR OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
WE CAME HERE AND SAW PEOPLE SPEAKING FROM THE HEART, FROM
COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S DISTRICT, FROM SOUTH TAMPA.
AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS WORKING.
SO THIS, AS I ENVISION IT, WOULD LOOK AT A NUMBER OF THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, WHAT SUCCESSES WE HAVE.

HOW CAN WE BUILD ON THOSE.
WHAT FAILURES DID WE HAVE WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.
HOW CAN WE DO BETTER ON THAT.
AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THE STORM, PARTICULARLY WITH NON-FLOOD
ZONES.
LOT OF QUESTIONS RAISED.
ISSUES, STORMWATER PONDS, TIMELINE OF WHEN THE PONDS WERE
PUMPED, A DETAILED STATUS UPDATE ON GENERATORS.
ACTIONS LEADING UP TO, DURING AND AFTER THE STORM,
ET CETERA.
WHAT I WANT TO DO IS HAVE A PATHWAY FORWARD FOR THAT.
AGAIN, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS IN A VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL WAY, BUT
WE NEED TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT INQUIRY INTO WHAT HAPPENED
AFTER THIS STORM.
BECAUSE, GUYS, THERE ARE A LOT OF FAMILIES WHO LOST
EVERYTHING AND WHO DO NOT HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE AND WHO WERE
IN NO FLOOD ZONES.
AND WE HEAR ABOUT THINGS WITH BACKUP GENERATORS, ET CETERA.
A GOOD AND HONEST GOVERNMENT IS NOT AFRAID OF HAVING OUTSIDE
INDEPENDENT PROFESSIONAL SOURCES TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED.
THAT'S ALL THAT I WANT.
AND I KNOW WE ALL SHARE THAT.
I HOPE THIS GETS SUPPORT.
I WOULD MOTION FOR THIS TO COME BACK ON NOVEMBER 7.

I KNOW THAT IS SOON.
I PROMISE THAT I WILL WORK AS HARD AS I CAN TO GET AS MUCH
INFORMATION AS I CAN LIKE I HAVE BEEN ON THIS, BUT THAT'S MY
MOTION.
1:03:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE A SECOND?
1:03:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAVE FIVE ON NOVEMBER 7.
1:04:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
MR. SHELBY.
1:04:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. VIERA, IF YOU CAN, FOR THE PURPOSES OF
WHAT YOU WANT TO APPEAR ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU COULD RESTATE
YOUR MOTION.
1:04:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY MOTION IS FOR -- TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON AN
INDEPENDENT INQUIRY INVESTIGATION INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA DURING AND AFTER THESE TWO STORMS WITH A
DISCUSSION ON A COMMISSION ON OUR SUCCESSES, OUR FAILURES,
AND HOW WE CAN DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE, BUT ESPECIALLY WHAT
WENT WRONG ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HEARD TODAY WITH
GENERATORS, INFRASTRUCTURE, ET CETERA.
I CAN SEND YOU A MEMO TO --
1:04:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK HAD HER HAND UP FIRST AND THEN COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:04:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT INQUIRY, I THINK THE BEST

IDEA IS TO SIMPLY -- I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE OPPOSES THAT.
I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS WORK WITH MR. SHELBY TO
FIGURE OUT HOW WE RUN -- BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO AN
INDEPENDENT INQUIRY.
I DON'T THINK BRINGING IT BACK NOVEMBER 7 AND HAVING US TALK
ABOUT IT MORE IS A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK YOU SIMPLY MEET WITH MR. SHELBY, MAYBE WITH
MS. KOPESKY, FIGURE OUT THE INTRICACIES OF IT AND WE WILL
WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT YOU.
I THINK IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE POSTMORTEM
WORKSHOP I RECOMMENDED WHICH WOULD BE A STAFF LEVEL AND FOR
US TO REALLY DISCUSS.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE DO WANT SOME
INDEPENDENT INQUIRY AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY AS COUNCIL TO DO
THAT.
WE JUST HAVEN'T IN A WHILE.
SO I THINK A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND WORK WITH THE THREE OF
YOU MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY AND THEN BRING IT BACK AND SAY,
HEY, WE'LL DO THIS, DO IT.
1:05:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
1:05:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DOES THIS INVOLVE ONLY THE CITY OF TAMPA,
NOT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS --
1:06:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CITY ONLY.
WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO WORK WITH US AND
THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME SYSTEMS WE DO.

1:06:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S WELL TAKEN.
THAT'S FINE.
1:06:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
ONE, WE HAVE TO KNOW OUR ROLE AND THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE
HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
WE HAVE INVESTIGATORY RESPONSIBILITIES.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM LEGAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU BRIDGE OUR ROLE AND INVESTIGATION
RESPONSIBILITIES WITH AN INDEPENDENT INQUIRY.
THAT SOUNDS LEGISLATIVE ON A TALLAHASSEE LEVEL AND NOT
NECESSARILY COUNCIL LEVEL.
I THINK I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM LEGAL OF HOW THAT
FITS WITHIN.
I THINK WE ALL -- I CAN'T IMAGINE A SINGLE ONE OF THE SEVEN
OF US THAT DON'T SUPPORT THE INTENT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
GET TO.
BUT IT IS THE MECHANICS.
ALSO SOME OF THE VERBIAGE.
I ALSO DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY POLITICIZE THIS EITHER.
I LOVE LYNN'S IDEA OF THE SWOT CONCEPT BECAUSE I THINK
THAT'S KIND OF MORE PRODUCTIVE WAY OF LOOKING AT SOMETHING.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
BEEN BEATING A DEAD HORSE.
1:07:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND VIERA.
1:07:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND WHAT BOTH SIDES ARE TRYING

TO DO.
I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS IN ANY WAY POLITICAL AT PULL.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING AND SAY WHAT
WENT WRONG AT WHAT TIME IN HISTORY AND HOW LONG HAS BEEN IN
PLACE.
NOT ABOUT THIS ADMINISTRATION OR LAST YEAR'S ADMINISTRATION
OR 30 YEARS ADMINISTRATION, HOW DO WE FIX WHAT WE HAVE SO
THAT WE UNDERSTAND, NOT DIRECTLY AT THIS ADMINISTRATION.
THIS ADMINISTRATION INHERITED FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.
IF THE HURRICANE HAPPENED AT THAT TIME, WOULD HAVE BEEN THE
SAME PLACE WE'RE AT NOW.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
NOT COVERING UP FOR ADMINISTRATION.
I'M SAYING FOR THE GOVERNMENT SAKE, US GOING FORWARD, I
REALLY BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOT TO BE DONE ON HOW DO WE FIX
WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW DO WE FIX WHAT
HAPPENED, PERIOD.
1:08:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE
TO PROCEED?
1:08:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUPLE OF THINGS.
I WANT THIS TO BE DOWN OUTSIDE OF STAFF.
LOVE STAFF.
WORKED WITH THEM EIGHT YEARS.
WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
JUST HAS TO BE DONE.

IN TERMS OF THE POLITICIZATION THAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
SAID, THAT'S WHY I WOULD RATHER IT BE DONE, NOT BY US
BECAUSE, AGAIN, PROBABLY FOR THE SAME REASON, THAT WOULD BE
MY PREFERENCE.
I DON'T WANT US DOING IT.
THERE'S TOO MUCH.
WE'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS, ET CETERA.
I'D RATHER IT BE DONE BY SOME SORT OF OUTSIDE GROUP.
THAT SAID, I WOULD MOTION FOR THEN IS FOR ME TO DISCUSS WITH
THE APPROPRIATE INDIVIDUALS AND FOR ME TO COME BACK AND
REPORT TO YOU GUYS NOVEMBER 7.
THAT IS ENOUGH TIME.
1:09:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD.
WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON IT ON THE 7th.
1:09:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU CAN BRING IT BACK DURING NEW BUSINESS.
1:09:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAN I PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR?
1:09:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
UNDER LIKE STAFF REPORTS AT THE END?
1:09:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:09:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TO GAUGE COUNCIL, I'LL TELL YOU ALL THIS, WHEN
I SPEAK TO MY PEOPLE IN FOREST HILLS AND NORTH TAMPA, THEY
WANT THIS.
THEY ARE PISSED AND THEY WANT THIS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM COUNCIL THAT THERE IS
UNIVERSAL SUPPORT FOR THIS, AS DISCUSSED.
SO I CAN TELL THEM THAT.

1:09:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I CAFE CON LECHE THAT.
1:09:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I UNDERSTAND.
IT IS TO RETURN -- TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL --
1:09:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE WILL BE REPORTING.
1:09:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON A PROPOSAL, YEAH.
1:09:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, YOU TALK ABOUT SCOPE AND TALK
ABOUT BRINGING THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THEY'LL NO DOUBT --
CITE SECTION 2.14, INVESTIGATIONS.
IN THE EXERCISE OF ITS LEGISLATIVE POWERS, THE COUNCIL OR
ANY SPECIAL COMMITTEE SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO CONDUCT SUCH
INVESTIGATIONS THAT HOLD SUCH HEARINGS AS COUNCIL SHALL BE
NECESSARY, EXPEDIENT AND PROPER, ET CETERA.
WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS YOUR SCOPE IS WITHIN YOUR
LEGISLATIVE POWERS.
IN OTHER WORDS, CRAFTING CODE AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO YOUR
RESPONSIBILITIES AS TO THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR THE
BUDGET.
THAT WOULD BE YOUR AUTHORITY UNDER INVESTIGATIONS UNDER THE
CHARTER.
1:10:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD.
YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS TO BE PUT LAST UNDER STAFF
REPORTS AND THE NOVEMBER 7 AGENDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.

ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
1:10:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUPLE THINGS, IF I MAY.
I AM GOING TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO REPORT TO US AS SOON
AS WE CAN ON THE FEASIBILITY OF APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO
ASSIST PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ON A MEANS TESTED
BASIS FOR UNCOMPENSATED NEEDS SUCH HOUSING, FOOD, ET CETERA.
WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS SOMETHING THAT IS GREAT BUT
THAT IS VERY, VERY TIME LIMITED.
I WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE IN A ROBUST NATURE.
I HAVE A NUMBER I'M THINKING OF, BUT I WANT THE
ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK WITH A NUMBER AND A FUNDING
SOURCE ON WAYS IN WHICH THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY HELP PEOPLE,
HURRICANE VICTIMS.
THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA, THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF
TAMPA ON A MEANS TESTED BASIS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING HOMELESS RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING HUNGRY RIGHT NOW.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO END IN TWO WEEKS.
IT'S NOT GOING TO END IN TWO WEEKS.
THIS STORM HAS BEEN DEVASTATING FOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY --
FOR EVERYBODY -- BUT ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE FLOOD
INSURANCE.
THIS IS DEVASTATING.
EMOTIONALLY TAXING, PEOPLE ARE BEING ORDERED TO GO BACK TO
WORK AND THEY CAN'T GO BACK TO WORK.

WE NEED TO HELP THEM AND I THINK WE HAVE TO FIND A PATHWAY
FOR THAT.
1:11:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DATE FOR THAT?
1:11:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'D LIKE NOVEMBER 7 BUT WHATEVER COUNCIL --
1:12:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:12:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, NO, I'M NOT SECONDING IT.
I'M OPPOSED TO IT.
1:12:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN I GET A SECOND?
ANYBODY WITH A SECOND?
1:12:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT WILL DIE.
1:12:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I EXPLAIN WHY?
I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I HAD A LAWSUIT
FILED WITH FEMA.
I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES OF DENYING.
FEMA HAS THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW.
IF THEY RUN OUT OF FUNDING, CONGRESS WILL EXPAND THAT
FUNDING.
THEY HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS.
SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE, YOU HAVE IMMEDIATE
NEED, SO THEY'LL REIMBURSE YOU FOR IMMEDIATE NEED FOR HOTEL
UP TO $750 AND MISCELLANEOUS LOST FOOD.
ALMOST -- AS LONG AS THEY DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAD A LOST IT'S
LIKE 3300 RIGHT OUT THE DOOR.
ANYBODY LISTENING TO THIS, IF YOU GO TO DISASTER

ASSISTANCE.GOV AND FILE.
SOMEBODY SAID THEY STOOD UP A CENTER AT BARKSDALE AND THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
IF YOU GO DOWN THERE, GRANTED LONG LINES, BUT THE
APPLICATION PROCESS ONLINE IS ACTUALLY QUICK AND EASY.
IT DOESN'T TAKE YOU VERY LONG.
YOU CAN FILL OUT THAT FORM IN FIVE MINUTES.
THEY WILL SEND OUT SOMEONE TO YOUR HOUSE AND THEY JUST
DOCUMENT THE FACT THAT YOU HAD A LOSS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU
HAVE PICTURES.
EVEN IF YOU REMEDIATED YOUR LOSS, JUST SHOW THEM PICTURES
THEY WILL DOCUMENT THAT AND WITHIN SEVEN DAYS YOU WILL GET A
CHECK DEPOSITED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT FROM FEMA.
ON TOP OF THAT, FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE, THEY
HAVE LOW INTEREST LOANS THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR FOR UP TO
30-YEAR LOW INTEREST LOANS.
SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WERE IMPACTED, THEY CAN APPLY FOR ZERO
INTEREST LOANS FOR UP TO 12 MONTHS.
AFTER THAT IT CAN ROLL OVER INTO A LOW INTEREST LOAN TO GET
IMMEDIATE HELP IN BEING ABLE TO REBUILD THEIR BUSINESS OR
REPAIR DAMAGES.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF FEDERAL MONEY FLOWING INTO FLORIDA AND
THESE OTHER AREAS IMPACTED AND SPECIFICALLY INTO TAMPA.
REALIZING THAT WE ARE REALLY JUST IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS PAST
A REALLY HUGE NATURAL DISASTER.

SO THEY ARE STILL STANDING THESE THINGS UP.
FEMA IS COMING IN AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES.
YOU ALL GO OUT AND LOOK FOR RESOURCES.
NEED HELP, CONTACT MY OFFICE AND WE'LL POINT YOU IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION.
1:14:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAD YOUR MIKE
ON.
1:14:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE.
THAT IS THE REASON I DON'T SUPPORT IT.
FEMA IN THEORY HAS THESE RESOURCES.
ALSO, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR STOOD WITH THE MAYOR TWO DAYS
BEFORE MILTON I THINK IT WAS AND SAID, DON'T WORRY, WE HAVE
THE RESOURCES STAGED.
WE'RE COMING IN.
EVERYTHING SET UP AND DIDN'T SEE THEM UNTIL A WEEK LATER.
TAKING THEM WAY TOO LONG TO GET SET UP.
TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED.
I WON'T TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC CHALLENGES BUT YOU CAN LOOK
ANYWHERE ONLINE AND SEE IT.
IT IS NOT A RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY.
REAL PEOPLE, A LOT OF THEM DEMOCRATS HAVING PROBLEMS.
WHAT I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO IS SUPPORT OR SUPPLEMENT HELPING
PEOPLE TO FILL OUT THE FEMA FORMS.
LEGITIMATE LITTLE QUIRKS TO IT THAT ARE CAUSING PEOPLE
PROBLEMS.

I SAT DOWN WITH TWO FEMA PEOPLE ON TUESDAY, STEPHANIE SAT
WITH ME.
NUMBER ONE, I SAID YOU NEED TO BEEF UP YOUR CALL CENTERS.
THEY SAID WE'RE DOING THAT.
IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR SOMEBODY WHO LOST THEIR HOUSE AND
EVERYTHING TO SIT FOR THREE OR FOUR HOURS ON THE PHONE.
IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR THEM.
NUMBER TWO, THEY NEED TO FIX THE WEBSITE.
IF THERE IS A FIELD THAT IS CAUSING PEOPLE TO BE REJECTED
FOR NO REASON, BECAUSE THEY PUT THE WRONG DATE OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT, THEY NEED TO FIX THAT.
SO THEY SAID THEY WOULD TAKE THAT FEEDBACK BACK.
BARKSDALE HAS OPENED UP.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THIS AFTERNOON.
I HEARD THERE WERE LONG LINES THIS MORNING.
IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT TEMPORARILY THE CITY COULD HELP
SUPPLEMENT THEM AND GET PEOPLE OUT TO HELP THEM, THAT WOULD
BE VERY HELPFUL.
I ASSUME THAT FEMA WOULD REIMBURSE US FOR IT.
WE NEED LIKE 50 PEOPLE HELPING PEOPLE FILL OUT FORMS.
FEMA WILL GO DOOR TO DOOR ALSO AND TAKING iPADS WITH THEM
AND HELP PEOPLE FILL OUT THE FORMS AT THEIR HOUSES.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HELPFUL, TOO.
THAT JUST STARTED.
ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PROMOTE THAT.

I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, RAQUEL HAS BEEN VERY
HELPFUL WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD DISABILITIES.
BUT THERE ARE SOME CASES WHERE PEOPLE HAD PROBLEMS.
THEY LOST EVERYTHING, AND THEY HAD PROBLEMS WITH FEMA.
THE CITY HAS TRIED TO HELP THEM.
COUNTY, HARRY COHEN'S OFFICE AND OTHERS TRYING TO HELP THEM.
I CAN SHOW YOU THE E-MAILS LEGITIMATELY TRYING TO HELP THEM
AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO.
AT THEIR REQUEST PASSED SEVERAL OVER TO KATHY CASTOR'S
OFFICE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO HELP.
THOSE ARE OTHER RESOURCES PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE.
THERE'S SOME KIND OF SECRET SAUCE THAT WE NEED TO LEARN
QUICKLY.
IT'S NOT JUST POSTING TO THE INTERNET OR SOCIAL MEDIA THE
CHECKLIST ON HOW TO DO IT.
THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF CHECKLISTS.
WE NEED PEOPLE TO SIT DOWN WITH PEOPLE AND HELP THEM FIGURE
OUT HOW TO FILL OUT THE FORM BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP IT GO
SMOOTHLY.
MOST IMPORTANT THING PEOPLE SAID TODAY, THEY WANT TO KNOW WE
CARE AND INTERESTED IN HELPING PEOPLE.
IF WE CAN DO THAT SOME WAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
1:17:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS MEANS
TESTING TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME.
WHEN WE DID OUR MAP PROGRAM, IT WASN'T JUST THE MEANS

TESTING, BUT IT WAS FRAUD-PROOFING THE MEANS TESTING.
IT WAS A CONSTANT SHIFT.
TOOK THEM ALMOST A FULL YEAR TO GET IT RIGHT.
I THINK YOUR HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT I DO AGREE
THAT IF WE JUST FOCUS ON IMPROVING THE FOLKS ACCESS TO FEMA.
1:17:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I FEEL THAT TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FALL
THROUGH THE CRACKS AND THE BENEFIT, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S
DETRIMENT TO THIS.
BENEFIT OUTWEIGHS THE DETRIMENT.
THAT'S FINE.
THE ISSUE MAY COME BACK.
I FELT JUST WITH THE PEOPLE WE TALKED TO, FELT COMPELLED TO
BRING IT UP.
ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS, I THINK IT'S
WORTHY TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO COME UP.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT, THE MAYOR HAS PROPOSED THE BACKUP
GENERATORS.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ASK THE ADMINISTRATION
TO COME FORWARD WITH FUNDING SOLUTIONS TO ANY INFRASTRUCTURE
PROPOSALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE.
SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO TO -- I -- I WANT TO HAVE A
UNIFIED PROPOSAL ON WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM.

IF WE DON'T WANT IT, GO, HEY, LISTEN, TAKE IT FROM THIS.
TAKE IT FROM THAT.
I THINK IT'S SMART THAT WE ASK THEM TO BE PREPARED FOR THE
FLOOD -- NO PUN INTENDED -- THAT IS COMING ON REQUESTS ON
INFRASTRUCTURE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
1:19:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
1:19:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I GUESS IT IS NOT A MOTION.
IT IS JUST A STATEMENT TO BE READY.
THAT'S ALL.
BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING FROM PARKLAND ESTATES, ET CETERA.
IF WE WANT TO MAKE A ROBUST INVESTMENT RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING
TO COST MONEY AND WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING
TO BE COMING FROM AND BETTER TO GET THAT DONE NOW THAN
LATER.
LASTLY, THE FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD SENT A SERIES OF
QUESTIONS TO STAFF ON THE PUMPS AND DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH
THE FLOODED NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY DON'T NEED TO COME BACK.
I WANT TO DO A MOTION REQUESTING THAT CITY STAFF ANSWER
THOSE QUESTIONS WITHIN TEN DAYS.
THAT'S IT.
1:19:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
1:19:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS NOT A MOTION.
OUR RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE VERY LIKELY IS GOING TO
BE PUSHED A LITTLE BIT.
I WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE MY OFFICE HAS BEEN DEALING WITH
THAT, OBVIOUSLY GIVEN STAFF ISSUES, ET CETERA.
WE'VE SPOKEN TO SOME FOLKS ALREADY.
IT WILL VERY LIKELY GET PUSHED A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS
UNFORTUNATE.
THE THING SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY FOR THE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU.
1:20:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. VIERA, IF I CAN, TO ADD TO THAT, I
BELIEVE THE FIRST MEETING WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR NEXT
TUESDAY.
I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW AT HANNA AVENUE IT WILL NOT BE
HELD.
IT WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
IF I'M WRONG, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE MEETING, BRANDON
WILL CORRECT ME.
I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY THE SCHEDULE,
THERE IS NO MEETING TUESDAY.
1:20:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE SHOULD OBVIOUSLY PROMOTE THAT ON SOCIAL
MEDIA.

I NEVER PROMOTED THE ORIGINAL.
WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT WITH IT, STORM ONE, STORM TWO, ONE
BEGET THE OTHER.
1:20:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
1:20:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WANT TO THANK HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC
SCHOOLS FOR THEIR OTHERS IN THIS STORM.
WE HAD TO OPEN UP SCHOOLS AS SHELTERS.
TEN OF OUR SCHOOLS WERE STILL FLOODED AS OF YESTERDAY OR THE
DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY.
A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T HAVE POWER.
THEY HAD SOME CHALLENGES, BUT THEY HAVE MET THE MOMENT AS
WELL IN WORKING WITH US TO ACCOMMODATE OUR CITIZENS.
I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT PUBLICLY.
ALSO, CONDOLENCES TO NORENE COPELAND MILLER'S FAMILY.
SHE WAS A GREAT PUBLIC SERVANT, FIGHTER OF HER COMMUNITY.
LOVER OF ALL THINGS CEMETERIES.
BROUGHT SOME THINGS TO OUR ATTENTION IMMEDIATELY WHEN I CAME
ON COUNCIL REGARDING MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
HEART WAS THERE.
FAMILY BURIED THERE.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME LOVE PUBLICLY TO HER DAUGHTERS WHO
ARE ALL HERE DURING HER ILLNESS.
WHICH SHE WAS PRIVATE ABOUT FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
HER FIGHT IS OVER AND MAY SHE REST IN PEACE.

OTHER THAN THAT, ALSO, I JUST WANT ALL OF THE SMALL BUSINESS
OWNERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THIS IS INCLUDING MYSELF,
DON'T FORGET ABOUT US.
SMALL BUSINESSES ARE OUT HERE FIGHTING EVERY DAY TO STAY
ALIVE.
I KNOW PEOPLE ARE NOT SPENDING MONEY RIGHT NOW, BUT SMALL
BUSINESSES ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT THEM.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
1:22:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:22:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS KIND OF RESTATING THE OBVIOUS AND
APPREHENSIVE TO DO IT.
I DON'T WANT TO EVEN PUT IT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
I WANT TO URGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO SCOUR FY '25 AND WHAT'S
GOING TO BE LEFT OF '24 BUDGET TO IDENTIFY THE WANTS VERSUS
NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO COME TO US AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE
GOING TO FUND SOME OF THE BASIC -- I KNOW WE'LL GET
REIMBURSED A LOT FROM FEMA FOR THE COST DIRECTLY RELATED TO
BOTH OF THE NATURAL DISASTERS SINCE WE'VE BEEN DECLARED A
MAJOR NATURAL DISASTER, OUR COUNTY.
BUT SOME OF THE STUFF LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKED ABOUT,
HAVING GENERATORS ON THESE PUMP STATIONS, RESOLVING SOME OF
THESE ISSUES IN SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WE MAY NOT HAVE

BUDGETED FOR THAT WE CAN HAVE A SOLUTION SOONER RATHER THAN
LATER.
I THINK IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO BE PREPARED TO HAVE THAT
FISCAL DISCUSSION.
1:23:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, DO YOU HAVE NEW
BUSINESS?
1:23:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, ON THAT NOTE.
I MOVE TO SCHEDULE A HURRICANE HELENE AND HURRICANE MILTON
POSTMORTEM WORKSHOP TO INCLUDE A SWOT ANALYSIS, WHICH IS
STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, AND THREATS FOR EACH
CITY DEPARTMENT, SPECIFICALLY BASED ON OUR RECENT RESPONSE
AND RECOVERY, WHAT SHOULD WE DO DIFFERENTLY NEXT TIME, WHAT
PROJECTS NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED TO PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE.
AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
WHEN I WAS DESCRIBING SWOT TO FOLKS, WE USE THIS A LOT IN
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
BUT WHEN I WAS A FIRST GRADE TEACHER, WE CALLED IT THREE
KISSES AND A WISH AND I HAD A LITTLE WAND, LITTLE STAR, AND
LITTLE STUFF ON IT.
AND THEY WOULD BRING YOU LIKE A PIECE OF WRITING AND YOU
WOULD SAY, THIS WAS GREAT, THIS WAS GREAT, THIS WAS GREAT.
NEXT TIME, I'D LIKE YOU TO TRY DOING THIS.
A SWOT ANALYSIS IS NOT A NEGATIVE THING.
IT IS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT TO BE HONEST BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE
DAY IN MY LIFE I CAN KNOW WHAT I DIDN'T DO RIGHT AND WHAT I

CAN DO BETTER.
THEY ARE VERY FUN TO MAKE.
1:24:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT DAY ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO THIS?
1:24:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS THE THING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
1:24:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THINK ABOUT IT BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER
--
1:24:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN.
BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME AND HOW -- IT FEELS LIKE WE
NEED --
1:24:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE DAY.
1:24:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I KNOW.
IT ALSO FEELS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME.
1:24:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO DO THIS RIGHT WE HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF
TIME.
I THINK WE'RE STILL IN RECOVERY MODE.
I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE MAYOR RESCINDED THAT.
1:25:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HONESTLY, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO IT
ON A TUESDAY ALL DAY.
I'M NOT RECOMMENDING A DATE YET.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT TO US.
BECAUSE, HONESTLY, HALLOWEEN IS OPEN.
TOO EARLY, I GET IT.
1:25:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M THINKING FEBRUARY.
OUR STAFF WILL NOT KNOW THE LESSONS LEARNED UNTIL THEN.

THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING.
1:25:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS WHY I'M SAYING, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE
DO WAIT AND IF COUNCILMAN VIERA, IF OTHERS AND YOU YOURSELF
SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SCOUR THE BUDGET, NOW IS THE
TIME.
FEBRUARY, HALF THE YEAR IS GONE.
I DON'T DISAGREE.
BUT MY POINT IS, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, SOME DEPARTMENTS
ARE GOING, HM, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT.
REALLY PROUD OF US FOR BEING ABLE TO DO THIS OR REFLECTFUL
ON DOING THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT IS A WRONG TIME TO SIT DOWN AND COME UP
WITH SOMETHING SOONER BECAUSE HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT
IS A BIG DEAL.
FOR ME, I DON'T WANT THAT, WEST RIVER TO GO ANY FURTHER
BECAUSE I THINK WE END UP USING THAT MONEY.
SAME THING WITH FORENSICS BUILDINGS.
THOSE ARE WANTS.
THEY ARE NOT NEEDS.
AND THE LONGER WE WAIT TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS.
1:26:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON ANY OF THE
PROJECTS.
1:26:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T EITHER.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE NEED TO SIT DOWN.

WE NEED TO HAVE FOLKS COME TO US.
WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
WE CANNOT KICK IT TILL FEBRUARY.
1:26:47PM >> KICK IT TO FEBRUARY?
1:26:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PRUDENT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO NOT
LET OUT ANY FURTHER CONTRACTS ON SPECIFIC ISSUES UNTIL WE
HAVE THIS DISCUSSION?
1:26:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, WE COULD GO TO --
1:27:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THERE A TIME IN DECEMBER?
1:27:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
1:27:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T SUPPORT A WORKSHOP
BUT HOW ABOUT THE SWOT ANALYSIS ITSELF, CAN WE GET THAT FROM
EACH DEPARTMENT BY THE END OF THE MONTH IN WRITING TO US
FIRST?
THAT WOULD GIVE US A DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT AT THE END OF THE
MONTH.
THEY PROBABLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS.
THEY COULD HAVE A QUICK MEETING WHERE THEY ARE JUST GIVING
WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND
THREATS.
IT'S NOT AS SERIOUS AS YOU THINK --
1:27:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WON'T BE COMPLETE.
1:27:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THEY CAN GIVE IT TO US BY THE END OF THE
MONTH.
1:27:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT IT STILL WON'T BE COMPLETE.

1:27:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S OKAY.
1:27:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CORRECT.
THAT IS THE FOUNDATION OF AT LEAST GETTING STARTED PRIOR TO
US HAVING A WORKSHOP IS WE HAVE AT LEAST THAT INFORMATION BY
THE END OF THE MONTH AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE ON A DATE, YOU
KNOW, FOR A WORKSHOP SO WE COULD HAVE SOME DIRECTION.
WE DO HAVE RULES REGARDING OUR WORKSHOPS AS WELL.
1:28:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW ABOUT WE ASK FOR THE LIST THEY HAVE,
THEIR PRELIMINARY -- THE PRELIMINARY SWOT ANALYSIS?
1:28:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YEAH, COULD BE THEIR DRAFT.
1:28:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, BY THE END OF OCTOBER, OCTOBER 31st,
BY HALLOWEEN.
OR, ACTUALLY, I WILL MAKE IS ALL SOULS DAY.
WE'LL DO NOVEMBER 1st, WHICH IS A FRIDAY.
THEN FROM THERE, ONCE WE GET THAT, WE CAN SET ANOTHER.
I DO WANT THAT TO INCLUDE A SWOT ANALYSIS AND THEN FROM THE
MAIN ADMINISTRATION WHERE WE CAN GET SOME MONEY.
1:28:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO TWO MOTIONS.
THE FIRST MOTION WHICH I'LL SECOND.
1:28:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, I KNOW WE'RE UNDER A STATE
OF EMERGENCY AND THEY ARE ALL OVERLOADED.
1:28:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DEPENDING ON, THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR
THE ADMINISTRATION TO RESPOND TO THIS MOTION TO THIS COUNCIL
IN A MEETING IN ADVANCE OF WHEN IT'S DUE.
WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU, IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THEM BEING

ABLE TO COMPLY, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE BY E-MAILS
OR TALKING TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY.
1:29:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SWOT ANALYSIS, THEY DON'T NEED TO TALK TO
US.
1:29:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SAYING -- WHAT I'M SAYING THIS CHAMBER
IS EMPTY OF STAFF AND YOU'RE MAKING REQUESTS OF THE
ADMINISTRATION BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THEY COME BACK.
THAT'S FINE.
1:29:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
[INAUDIBLE]
1:29:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE IS THE THING, I WILL CHANGE IT TO
NOVEMBER 8.
1:29:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SWOT ANALYSIS.
1:29:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST FOR A DRAFT SWOT ANALYSIS FOR NOVEMBER
8.
I MOVE TO SCHEDULE HURRICANE HELENE AND HURRICANE MILTON
SWOT ANALYSIS FOR EACH CITY DEPARTMENT TO BE DELIVERED NO
LATER THAN NOVEMBER 8 FOR A DRAFT TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S
E-MAIL ADDRESS.
1:30:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
1:30:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
YOU KNOW HOW LIKE TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT WITHOUT A
WORKSHOP, WE CAN LITERALLY, BECAUSE OF THE URGENT NEED OF
THIS, EVERY MEETING WE COULD -- I THOUGHT IT WAS ON.
IT IS ON.
01:30:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY TURN IT ON FOR YOU.
01:30:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE A HARD DATE IF
WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS.
BECAUSE THIS IS A CRISIS ISSUE.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW AND THIS IS NOT A WORKSHOP.
A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE CAN TAG ON ONCE WE RECEIVE
THIS ON NOVEMBER 8 WHERE WE ARE AT LEAST ADDRESSING IT
CONSISTENTLY RATHER THAN -- AND THEN GETTING TO A WORKSHOP
DATE, AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT ALONG THE WAY.
JUST A SUGGESTION.
01:30:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:30:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU PUT A PAGE LIMIT
OF, LIKE, TWO OR THREE PAGES.
01:31:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
01:31:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SPECIFICALLY PUT THAT AS AN INSTRUCTION
BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY MAY FEEL PRESSURED FOR 50 PAGES WHEN
IT SHOULD BE TWO OR THREE.
01:31:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS FINE.
01:31:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE TALKED OF HAVING ANOTHER MOTION.
THAT ENABLING US TO PUT THE WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY OR
SOMEWHERE OUT.
01:31:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE HAVE A HURRICANE HELENE HURRICANE
ANALYSIS NO MORE THAN TWO PAGES TO BE DELIVERED --
01:31:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TWO PAGES EACH.
01:31:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EACH DEPARTMENT, TWO PAGES PER DEPARTMENT NO
MORE THAN TWO PAGES PER DEPARTMENT TO DELIVER TO CITY
COUNCIL E-MAIL NO LATER -- OR BY NOVEMBER 8.
01:31:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
YES, MA'AM, ANYTHING ELSE?
01:31:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF -- AND THIS ONE WE MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF -- IF WE -- IF WE DID THIS.
I AM GOING TO SET THIS FOR NOW AND IF WE HAVE TO MOVE IT, WE
WILL HAVE TO MOVE IT.
I MOVE STAFF PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT DECEMBER 5, 2024 THAT
WILL BE AN UPDATE ON THE REVIEW OF THE FEES AND POTENTIAL
FEE RIGHT-SIZING FOR PARKS AND REC, THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND
NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCE THE AND INCLUDE THE INFORMING REPORTED
TO THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY COUNCIL.
01:32:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
01:32:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AN UPDATE OF THE REVIEW OF FEES -- POTENTIAL
FEE RIGHT-SIZING FOR PARKS AND REC.
CLERK'S OFFICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT.
I AM DOING THESE IN TRANCHES AND THESE ARE THE THREE THAT
ARE READY TO GO.
01:32:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO THEY ARE ALREADY DOING THAT.
01:32:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AN UPDATE.
WRITTEN REVIEW.
WRITTEN REPORT.
THEY KNOW IT IS COMING.
01:32:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONGOING PROCESS.
01:33:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SECOND.
01:33:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
01:33:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?
01:33:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, THAT WILL DO.
01:33:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:33:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A COUPLE OF THINGS, A FEW THING, PLEASE.
NUMBER ONE, FOLK TALK OF SOUTH TAMPA AND THEY -- THERE IS A
CERTAIN IMAGE OF WHAT SOUTH TAMPA IS.
JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, PEOPLE THINK IT IS RICH.
EVERYBODY IS RICH AND EVERYBODY HAS MONEY AND IT IS ALL
WHITE.
THERE IS A -- THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER OF MIDDLE-CLASS FOLKS
IN SOUTH TAMPA.
AND MOST OF -- MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE WIPED OUT,
THE HOUSES WERE SINGLE-FAMILY RANCH-STEEL HOMES AND MANY
HAVE BEEN WITH THE FAMILIES FOR GENERATIONS.
KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THEY ARE NOT ALL MULTIMILLIONAIRES.
HISTORIC BLACK COMMUNITY IN PORT TAMPA, THE SENTENCE OF THE
LONGSHOREMEN.
MANY OF THEM HOUSES HAVE BEEN IN THEIR FAMILIES FOR
GENERATIONS AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND SO THEY LOST EVERYTHING AS WELL.
SO -- THERE IS DIVERSITY IN ALL DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE
COMMUNITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO -- YOU DIDN'T SCHEDULE A WORK.
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT?
01:34:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DIDN'T SCHEDULE A WORK.
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE WANTED SWAT FIRST.
01:34:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TENTATIVELY LOOKING AT FEBRUARY.
01:34:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM THINKING JANUARY, TO BE HONEST YOU WITH.
01:34:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKSHOP INCLUDES A
SPECIFIC -- I CAN KEEP TRACK OR YOU CAN.
IT NEEDS TO INCLUDE A SPECIFIC ITEM OR AGENDA ITEM THAT IS
ABOUT STORM RECOVERY PLAN, BECAUSE -- BECAUSE THE -- BECAUSE
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE STORM RECOVERY PLAN IN A MAJOR
DISASTER WAS INADEQUATE WHAT WE HIT.
I WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT.
ALSO I WON'T MAKE A MOTION ON IT AND I WILL WAIT AND LET
THAT BE PART OF THE PLAN.
01:34:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WAIT A MINUTE, YOU SAID --
01:34:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
RECOVERY.
01:34:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE
IS SAYING.
01:34:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON.
01:35:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE CITY HAD TO QUICKLY ASSEMBLE AND ADAPT
TO THE UNIQUE SITUATION THAT HAPPENED.
WE NEVER HAD STORM SURGE LIKE THAT BEFORE.
AND NOW WE KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A THREAT, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO
MOBILIZE QUICKER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I AM NOT CRITICIZING ANYBODY, BUT AS THE STORMS GET WORSE
AND WORSE WE NEED TO REUP OUR PLANS.
ALL ABOUT RELOOKING AT THE STORM RECOVERY PLAN.
I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION.
IT CAN BE ADDED TO THAT.
ONE THING WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR STORMWATER PLAN.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO -- I THINK THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE THAN
THESE LONG DISCUSSIONS.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
POSSIBLE TO ADD IT TO THE JANUARY 30 WORKSHOP?
01:35:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE IS.
01:35:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IS IT FULL?
01:35:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT IS OUR LIMIT.
SHELBY YOUR LIMIT IS TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO BE DONE BY 1:00.
01:36:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WANT TO DO IT ON A TUESDAY?
01:36:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FEBRUARY HAS FOUR.
THE WORKSHOP YOU HAVE IS GOING TO LEAD INTO THIS.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO PUT A DISCUSSION
WITH STAFF ABOUT UPDATING AND MODERNIZING THE STORMWATER
PLAN ON FEBRUARY 27 SHOP.
01:36:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. SHELBY.
01:36:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES YOUR MICROPHONE NEED TO BE ON.
01:36:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, IT DOES.
THAT WILL HELP.
LOOK AT THE JANUARY 30 WORKSHOP ITEMS.
FOUR OF THEM ARE YOUR MOTIONS.
AND MAYBE YOU CAN REPRIORITIZE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW
THIS PACK ON.
01:36:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE AN IDEA, ACCEPT COUNCILMAN
CARLSON'S MOTION TO PUT IT ON THAT AND AS AN IOU TO LOOK AT
THE PAGE TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE COULD MOVE.
01:37:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FEBRUARY.
JANUARY OR FEBRUARY?
OKAY, JANUARY -- I WILL MOVE SOMETHING FROM JANUARY 30 AND
PUT IT THERE.
01:37:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON ABOUT
ADDING STORMWATER TO THE JANUARY 30 WORKSHOP.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
01:37:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, THING IS A SUPER -- THIS IS GOING TO BE
ONGOING.
AND WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT FIT IT IN TO OUR NORMAL WORK.
AND I -- I -- I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THAT TIME WHERE WE NEED TO
USE EXTRA DAYS TO FOCUS ON NOTHING BUT THIS.
WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY.
01:37:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY -- WE HAVE THE OTHER ITEMS COMING
UP BUT YOU ARE SCHEDULING A WHOLE DAY AND THAT DAY HAS TO BE
BEFORE THIS.
THAT DAY WILL BE THE INPUT INTO THIS.
01:37:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS SORT OF WHAT I AM SAYING.
IN YOUR -- IF WE HAVE IT IN -- IN -- I THINK IT WILL BE A
MUCH LONGER DISCUSSION THAN ONE OUT OF FIVE EYE.
01:38:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CAN I SUGGEST WE GO
WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S IDEA AND THEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN
MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS DOING AN EXTRA DAY?
BECAUSE WE COULD ALWAYS ADD AN EXTRA DAY, BUT WE HAVE A
PLACEHOLDER JUST IN CASE.
01:38:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT I ALSO -- ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BRING
FORWARD TO THE NEXT MEETING NOVEMBER 7th IS EVERYBODY BRING
WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT AT THAT WORKSHOP.
IF YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS AND YOU HAVE IDEAS.
LET'S EVERYBODY BRING IDEAS AND MY OFFICE CAN SET THE ONLY
AFTER EVERYONE GIVES THEIR IDEAS.
01:38:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
HE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SETTING AN AGENDA ITEM
FOR JANUARY 30 FOR STORMWATER.
01:38:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO DISCUSS UPDATING AND MODERNIZING THE
STORMWATER PLAN.
01:38:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND GET IT TO HER OFFICE AND SHE WILL WORK
WITH THAT.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
01:39:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ANOTHER THING -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO
THIS IN OUR MEETING.
WHAT HAPPENED IN PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING, I THINK WE
NEED -- WHERE EVERYBODY WENT LONG.
I THINK TO KIND OF PROTECT THE CHAIR.
IF THERE IS -- MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER A RULE THAT IF
SOMEBODY IS ALLOWED TO GO LONG, THAT THE CLERK WILL KEEP
TRACK OF THE TIME AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE NEW -- IF
SOMEBODY ASKS FOR TIME, WE WOULDN'T LET ANYBODY GO PAST
THAT, BECAUSE -- JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY GOES A MINUTE OVER SO
THE NEXT PERSON CAN'T GO FIVE OR TEN MINUTES EARLIER.
01:39:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS GOING TO SAY -- LET ME INTERJECT
INTO THAT.
WHAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN IS, ONE, A COUNCIL PERSON SHOULD HAVE
CALLED A POINT OF ORDER TO ENFORCE THE RULES.
AND IF -- IF THERE WAS THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO EXTEND PUBLIC
COMMENT TIME, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE EQUABLY AMONGST EVERY
SPEAKER.
SO THAT -- THERE WAS -- THERE WAS SEVEN OF US UP HERE.
AND WE ALL HAD THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND WE CHOSE NOT TO.
THE REASON I DIDN'T DO IT, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
NATURAL DISASTER AND A LOT PAIN AND ANGUISH AND I FEEL THAT
PEOPLE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
BUT I THINK -- FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, I THINK WE DO HAVE THE
ABILITY, PARLIAMENTARIAN PROCEDURES TO DO THAT.
BUT THIS WAS -- THIS WAS A SPECIAL SITUATION.
01:40:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T LOSE THAT, BUT
I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT.
01:40:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:40:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND I DON'T DISAGREE BECAUSE THIS -- THIS WAS
A NATURAL DISASTER.
BUT THAT GOES TO MY POINT AS TO WHY DEPARTMENT HEADS
SHOULDN'T HAVE LEFT.
BECAUSE TODAY WAS A NATIONAL DISASTER AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS
THE TIME TO LISTEN.
SO I JUST -- PEOPLE JUST WANT TO BE HEARD AND THEY WANT --
AND THEY WANT THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE CITY TO HEAR THEM.
AND THAT -- SO THAT WAS MY --
01:40:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING NO FURTHER NEW BUSINESS --
01:41:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I -- TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS.
A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH THE JACKSON
HOUSE SURVIVING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE -- I TRIED TO SAVE IT IN 2012.
AND WE WERE STOPPED BY THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.
THE -- SINCE THEN, THE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN RUNNING IT.
WE GAVE AS CRA BOARD WE GAVE THEM $1 MILLION FOUR YEARS AGO
AND THEN GAVE THEM MONEY.
AND THEN THEY HAVE PUT OBSTACLE AFTER OBSTACLE AFTER US AND
WAIVED ALL THOSE OBSTACLES AND STAFF DEPARTURE.
STAFF WAS PULLING THEIR HAIR OUT BECAUSE FRUSTRATED WITH THE
JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION.
I PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED USING CONDEMNATION RULES TO TAKE THE
BUILDINGS BACK AND FINE THEM.
A COMMUNION ASSET.
WE -- WE OFFERED AND CONTINUED HAVING THE JACKSON HOUSE
FOUNDATION DO AN UPDATE TO US AT CRA EIGHT TIMES.
EACH TIME THEY CANCELLED.
I AM NOT MAKING A MOTION NOW BUT IN THE NEXT CRA MEETING, I
WILL MAKE MA MOTION THAT WE GIVE THEM A DEADLINE OR WITHDRAW
THEIR MONEY.
BECAUSE THEY EITHER NEED TO TEAR IT DOWN OR RESTORE IT.
NOT ACCEPTABLE ANYMORE.
THE LAST THING -- I AM NOT ON TIK TOK, BUT MY KIDS AND
OTHERS TELL ME THAT TWO STARS CAME -- TWO TIK TOK STARS CAME
WITH THE HURRICANES.
ONE WAS LIEUTENANT DAN.
ALL MY KIDS AND ALL THEIR FRIENDS WERE WATCHING LIEUTENANT
DAN.
I EVEN TALKED TO THE MAYOR ABOUT IT.
ARGUMENT WHETHER LIEUTENANT DAN STAYED IN HIS BOAT OR NOT.
AND THE MAYOR SAID OFFICIALLY THEY -- THEY TOOK HIM OUT OF
THE BOAT AND HE DECIDED TO GO BACK.
THAT IS THE ANSWER TO THAT.
THE OTHER ONE -- I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS -- SORRY IF HE DOESN'T
LIKE ME MENTIONING THIS.
LARRY WASHINGTON HAS BECOME A TIK TOK STAR AS WELL.
CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM.
01:42:44PM >> THE THIRST IS REAL.
01:42:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I MOTIONED IT AND CHARLIE SECONDED IT.
01:42:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[GAVEL SOUNDING]

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