TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2024, 9:00 A.M.

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[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:04:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
ORDER.
AT THIS TIME I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA FOR THE
INVOCATION.
9:04:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I AM HONORED THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE A GENTLEMAN TO DO THE
INVOCATION.
BEEN A DEACON, PREACHER AT 34th STREET CHURCH OF GOD.
BEST OF ALL AND MOST LIKELY WHAT EVERYBODY KNOWS HIM FOR,
HE'S JUST A PLAIN GOOD OLD FRIEND OF THE PEOPLE.
HE'S DONE SO MANY THINGS IN PUBLIC SERVICE, NOT ONLY THE
COUNTY COMMISSION BUT HERE AT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
ALSO THE CHAIRMAN FOR MANY YEARS.
OUR FRIEND, MY FRIEND, TOM SCOTT.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

9:04:52AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS ALWAYS MY JOY AND PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO COME AND ASK
GOD'S BLESSINGS UPON YOU AND EVERY TIME I COME THROUGH THESE
HALLS, IT BRINGS BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES OF BEING HERE.
SO I THANK GOD FOR ALL OF YOU AND FOR WHAT YOU DO.
ONE THING I FIND, I'VE GOTTEN OLDER AND EVERY DAY YOU WANT
TO MAKE IT THE BEST DAY.
BE A BLESSING, TOUCH SOMEBODY'S LIFE, AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU.
YOUR WORD INSTRUCTS US TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU IN ALL OF OUR WAYS
AND YOU WILL GIVE DIRECTION TO OUR PATH.
WE THANK YOU TODAY AS WE COME.
WE DO AS YOUR WORD INSTRUCTS US.
WE PRAY TODAY, GOD, FOR OUR COUNTRY, FOR OUR NATION.
WE THANK YOU FOR HER FOR WHAT SHE STANDS -- JUSTICE,
EQUALITY, AND LIBERTY FOR ALL.
TODAY AS WE FIND OURSELVES IN YOUR PRESENCE, WE RECOGNIZE
THAT THERE ARE CHALLENGES THAT ARE AHEAD OF US, BUT YET
WE'RE ALSO GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL FOR THE MANY OPPORTUNITIES
WE HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IN OUR CITY.
THANK YOU TODAY FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT MAKE DECISIONS
FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I PRAY FOR EACH ONE TODAY THAT YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM, YOU
GIVE THEM KNOWLEDGE, GIVE THEM PURPOSE.

AND I PRAY, GOD, THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE WILL BE FOR THE
SAFETY, THE GOOD, THE RELAXATION AND THE -- FOR OUR
COMMUNITY, OUR FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
BLESS OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, BLESS OUR FIRST
RESPONDERS.
THANK YOU FOR THEM WHO GO OUT EVERY DAY TO PUT THEIR LIVES
ON THE LINE TO PROTECT US, THIS COMMUNITY AND CITY.
WE PRAY FOR THEM TODAY THAT YOU GUARD THEM, YOU PROTECT
THEM, YOU GUIDE THEM, YOU WATCH OVER THEM.
THANK YOU FOR OUR MAYOR.
WE PRAY THAT YOU BLESS HER AND HER STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION.
BLESS THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
MAY SHE STAND TALL, MAY SHE STAND FIRM.
MAY HER LIGHT SHINE BRIGHTER THAN EVER BEFORE.
THAT THERE IS A FUTURE THAT IS AHEAD OF US.
GREAT DAYS THAT ARE AHEAD OF US.
WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU, IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
9:07:11AM >> AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:07:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:07:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:07:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:07:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.

9:07:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:07:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:07:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:07:39AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:07:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REVIEW THE
RULES AND PROCEDURES TODAY?
9:07:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I AM HERE THIS MORNING TO REMIND YOU OF THE RULES OF DECORUM
IN THE COUNCIL'S RULES OF PROCEDURE.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, THERE IS A BOX OUTSIDE WITH COMMENT
CARDS.
YOU FILL OUT YOUR NAME AND A FEW OTHER PIECES OF INFORMATION
AND YOU PLACE THAT CARD IN THE BOX IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NOW, PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, WILL TAKE
PLACE THIS MORNING AFTER THE CEREMONIAL ITEMS AND THE
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE YOUR
OPINIONS, YOUR FACTS, WHY YOU'RE HERE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
NOW, IF YOU NOTICE WHEN YOU APPROACH THE LECTERN, THERE IS A
LITTLE BOX WITH THREE COLORED LIGHTS UP THERE.

RED, YELLOW, GREEN.
WHEN YOU BEGIN AT THREE MINUTES, YOU HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT.
WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS YELLOW AND YOU HEAR ONE BEEP, IT MEANS
YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT TO PLEASE WRAP UP.
WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS RED, THEN THE TONE WILL GO OFF AND THE
TONE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL YOU STOP SPEAKING.
PLEASE DO NOT CONTINUE SPEAKING AFTER YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED.
JUST LIKE ANY OTHER RULE, IF THE RULES ARE VIOLATED, THE
CHAIR MAY RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER.
AS A CONSEQUENCE, THEN THE CHAIR MAY ASK THAT YOU BE REMOVED
FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY'S MEETING.
PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
ALSO BE MINDFUL, COUNCIL, REGARDING ADDRESSING YOUR COMMENTS
TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY INDIVIDUAL
COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THEY ARE ADVISED BY ME AND IT IS IN
THEIR RULES THAT THEY CANNOT ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE WITH YOU AND
THEY CANNOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO WHEN YOU COME UP HERE, IT IS TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION AND
YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR FACTS TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT
PLEASE DO NOT EXPECT THEM TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO YOU.
I WILL SAY THAT YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE OBSERVED BY BOTH
THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS HERE TO HEAR -- THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO

THE MAYOR IS HERE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS PERSONALLY.
SO THAT BEING SAID, JUST BE MINDFUL OF THE RULES OF DECORUM
AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER
17th MEETING, 2024?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
9:10:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I COULD ADD ONE MORE THING, MR.
CHAIRMAN, WITH REGARD TO THE BOX THAT YOU HAVE OUTSIDE, YOU
MUST FILL OUT A CARD IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET THE FLOOR
BECAUSE THE CHAIR WILL THEN CALL YOUR NAME AND THEN ALSO
TELL THE NEXT PERSON WHO IS UP NEXT IN LINE SO YOU'LL BE
ABLE TO BE PREPARED TO GET UP TO VOTE.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
IF YOUR NAME CANNOT BE READ, YOUR NAME CANNOT BE CALLED.
THE OTHER ISSUE, YOU CAN SEE IT IS A FULL HOUSE TODAY.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE COMING DOWN TO THE
SECOND FLOOR.
WHEN THIS ROOM IS FILLED, THAT BOX WILL BE MOVED TO THE
SECOND FLOOR, AND THEN PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
THE CARDS ARE COLLECTED UP UNTIL THE TIME OF THE START OF

PUBLIC COMMENT.
THOSE PEOPLE COMING IN LATE AFTER THE START OF PUBLIC
COMMENT DO NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT THE CARD, DO
NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UNFORTUNATELY, TO SPEAK THAT DAY.
THEY CAN ALWAYS COME BACK THE NEXT TIME.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:11:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL GO OVER THE AGENDA FOR SOME HOUSEKEEPING.
WE RECEIVED A MEMO FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK FOR ITEM
NUMBER 8 TO BE TAKEN AS A SEPARATE VOTE.
ONCE WE GET TO THAT, WE WILL TAKE A SEPARATE VOTE.
ITEM 31, REQUEST FROM MR. MUTTERBACK REQUESTING ITEM 31
CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 21st.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM 63 AND 64 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.
ITEM NUMBER 65, THERE IS A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW, AND 66.
BUT THESE ARE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO AT THAT TIME, I WILL ASK FOR THAT MOTION AND WE'LL OPEN
IT UP WHEN THE TIME COMES.
IN REGARDS TO THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, CHIEF BENNETT WILL
BE HERE.
YOU'LL BE ADDRESSING AT THAT TIME?

9:12:17AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC AND THOUGHTS FOR OUR VETERANS FOR
THIS COMING MONDAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF COUNCIL'S PRIVILEGE IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
WANTED ME TO ADDRESS WHAT I'M CALLING THE NON-AGENDA MOTION
FOR 11A TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC YOUR REQUEST FOR THE --
WHAT WE CALL THE HOT WASH ON OUR CALL.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EXPLAIN THAT NOW?
9:12:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING IT, SO, YES.
9:12:45AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, OF COURSE, SUPPORTED BY
COUNCIL REQUESTED AN E-MAIL VERSION OF A SWOT ANALYSIS DUE
TOMORROW 11/8.
WE TALKED OFF-LINE.
THE DISASTER MANAGEMENT CYCLE IS SUCH THAT IT STARTS WITH
MITIGATION, PREPAREDNESS, RESPONSE, AND RECOVERY.
WE'RE STILL IN A MARGIN OF OUR RESPONSE PHASE AND ULTIMATELY
HEAVY IN OUR RECOVERY PHASE.
THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO A HOT WASH LED BY CHIEF
TRIPP AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUP, SO WE REQUESTED TO
PUSH THAT DATE OUT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING OFF-LINE.
WE CAN ASSURE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT PRIOR TO THE
AFTER-ACTION REPORT, THE HOT WASH CAN COME OUT AND BE DONE

IN THE SWOT ANALYSIS THAT WAS REQUESTED BY DEPARTMENT.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC?
9:13:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT IT MOVE FORWARD TO
EITHER -- WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE DATE BETWEEN THE 5th
AND THE 19th.
9:13:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL BRING IT UP AT NEW BUSINESS.
THAT HANDLES THAT.
ITEM 72 AND 73 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.
ITEM 74, REQUEST FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE 74 TO
JANUARY 23rd, 2025.
9:13:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
9:13:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THEN WE HAVE A MEMO REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER 78 BE
CONTINUED TO JANUARY 23rd, 2025.
9:14:06AM >> SO MOVED.
9:14:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
79 AND 80 TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED WITH NO DISCUSSION.
CAN I GET MOTION?

MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
AND THEN, FINALLY, ITEM NUMBER 81 IS A REQUEST FROM MR.
ROGERO TO CONTINUE 81 TO DECEMBER 19, 2024.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN --
9:14:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST ON 77, I DIDN'T DO A MEMO ON THIS, SO I
WILL BE SPEAKING ON IT.
I'LL GET INTO IT, BUT IT WILL BE MUCH MORE ABBREVIATED THAN
I ANTICIPATED BECAUSE I'M SPEAKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THEY
ARE GOING TO NEED A COUPLE OF WEEKS ON SOME THINGS THEY ARE
ALSO LOOKING AT.
JUST FYI THAT 77, MY REPORT TO COUNCIL ON THE INDEPENDENT
REVIEW POST-MILTON JUST FYI.
9:15:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA
AND THE ADDENDUM.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.

ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
WE HAVE TWO.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE OCTOBER POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO KICK IT OFF?
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:15:40AM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCIL, HOW ARE YA?
IT IS A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
WE ARE HERE WITH CHIEF BERCAW HERE FROM TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
WE'LL LET CHIEF BERCAW KICK THIS OFF.
9:15:55AM >>CHIEF BERCAW:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT
OFFICER JOSEPH RAMOS HAS BEEN NAMED OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH
FOR OCTOBER, 2024.
I'M SURE AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, WE ARE BEHIND A MONTH AND
WE'RE DOING TWO BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED THE END OF
SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.
ON SEPTEMBER 19, THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO AN
ARMED ROBBERY AT THE 29th STREET STORE.
THE SUSPECT FLED THE SCENE AFTER DEMANDING AND RECEIVING

CASH FROM THE STORE CLERK.
OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO QUICKLY DETERMINE THAT THE SUSPECT WAS
THE SAME INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBLE FOR A PREVIOUS ARMED ROBBERY
AT THE EXACT SAME LOCATION JUST ABOUT A MONTH PRIOR.
WHILE THE INVESTIGATION WAS ONGOING, OFFICER RAMOS WAS
WORKING EXTRA DUTY ON HIS DAY OFF AT THE C. BLYTHE ANDREWS
LIBRARY.
HE OBSERVED A MAIL SUBJECT WALKING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT
OF THE LIBRARY AND IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED HIM AS THE ROBBERY
SUSPECT.
HE QUICKLY BROADCASTED THIS INFORMATION TO ALL ON-DUTY
OFFICERS, LEADING TO A COORDINATED EFFORT TO APPREHEND THE
SUSPECT.
WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF OUR AIR SERVICE, OUR K9 PATROL AND
OUR FUGITIVE APPREHENSION TASK FORCE, OFFICERS SURROUNDED
THE RESIDENCE WHERE THE SUBJECT WAS LOCATED.
AFTER A BRIEF STANDOFF, THE SUSPECT SURRENDERED AND WAS
TAKEN INTO CUSTODY WITHOUT INCIDENT.
DURING SUBSEQUENT INTERVIEWS, THE SUSPECT WAS LINKED TO FOUR
ADDITIONAL ARMED ROBBERIES.
HE ALSO PROVIDED INFORMATION LEADING TO THE RECOVERY OF
STOLEN CASH, A FIREARM, AND OTHER EVIDENCE.
OFFICER RAMOS' QUICK THINKING, KEEN OBSERVATION, AND
DECISIVE ACTIONS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE SWIFT ARREST OF A
DANGEROUS CRIMINAL.

HIS DEDICATION TO DUTY, HIS COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND
HELPING KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE ARE THE REASONS THAT HE'S
BEING NAMED AND RECOGNIZED AS OUR OCTOBER OFFICER OF THE
MONTH.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OFFICER, BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU, WE HAVE
PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU THEIR
PERSONAL THANKS.
9:18:14AM >> BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE TO YOU FOR A JOB WELL
DONE.
9:18:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
GRACE GONZALEZ.
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF
RESTAURANTS.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY
OF TAMPA AND YOUR SACRIFICES THAT YOU MAKE.
PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELVES AT THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT, ULELE.
HAVE A NIGHT OFF AND RELAX.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:03AM >> HI, OFFICER.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR AWARD AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
SERVICE.

LORI OSBORNE.
I'M FROM THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO A
PERFORMANCE THIS SEASON.
AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING OFFICER RAMOS.
JILL WITECKI WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
WE WANT TO INVITE BOTH OF YOU, AFTER DINNER, COME SEE A --
[INAUDIBLE]
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:40AM >> BILL CURRIE FORD.
CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO IN THE CITY TO KEEP US
SAFE.
LIKE I SAY ALL THE TIME, I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
GUYS THAT PUTS ON THAT UNIFORM.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MIRANDA WITH STEPP'S TOWING ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND THE
ENTIRE STEPP'S TEAM WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
PROTECTING US, KEEPING US SAFE.
PLEASE ENJOY DINNER ON US.

THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:19AM >> STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY AND
KEEPING US SAFE.
THE STRAZ CENTER WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ENJOY AN EVENING AT
THE STRAZ.
ENJOY.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARY LOU BAILEY.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA WHERE I SERVE ON THE BOARD.
9:20:38AM >> MARK HANEY WITH ZOO TAMPA.
9:20:40AM >> WE WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND THANK YOU.
WE'RE GIVING YOU AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOU AND
YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY.
YOUR QUICK THINKING AND JUDGMENT IS MUCH APPRECIATED.
I COULDN'T DO WHAT YOU DO, BUT I DID GO TO THE POLICE
ACADEMY, THE CITIZENS.
I KNOW YOU HAVE TO MAKE LIKE SPLIT-SECOND JUDGMENTS AND MINE
WERE ALL WRONG.
I REALLY COMMEND YOUR STORY AND MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICES AND
KEEPING US SAFE AND SOLVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF CRIME.
THAT'S AWESOME.

CONGRATULATIONS.
9:21:08AM >> YOUR MEMBERSHIP WILL INCLUDE ADDITION TO CHRISTMAS IN THE
WILD WHERE YOU WILL SEE AFRICAN BLACK-FOOTED PENGUINS.
INTERESTING FACT, THEY POOP EVERY 15 MINUTES, SO THEY DON'T
MAKE GOOD PETS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
ENJOY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:27AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING US SAFE AND MAKING TAMPA A
SAFER PLACE FOR ALL FAMILIES.
CASPERS FAMILY AND OXFORD COMMONS, WANT TO OFFER YOU A
CERTIFICATE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY OXFORD
EXCHANGE, PREDALINA, ANY ONE OF OUR RESTAURANTS, ALSO THE
BOOKSTORE AND RETAIL SHOP AT OXFORD EXCHANGE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:53AM >> ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZERS, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER BRIAN
FORD WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY AND THE ENTIRE BUCS
ORGANIZATION, PRIVILEGED TO PRESENT WITH YOU A GAME BALL FOR
YOUR SERVICE.
9:22:04AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I SHARED A SEAT WITH YOU BACK THERE.
STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT

FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOUR DEDICATION AND HONOR
YOU.
ONE IS THE GREEK RESTAURANT ON HOWARD.
THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT
CERTIFICATE.
ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH, BRUNCH, WHENEVER YOU
WISH.
ON BEHALF OF THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, WE'RE PROVIDING
YOU WITH A $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE.
ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE, LUNCH OR DINNER.
ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, PROVIDING YOU WITH
A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR $50 SO YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OVER
THERE.
ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND, HUNDRED
DOLLAR GIFT CERTIFICATE, LUNCH, OR DINNER.
MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT
CERTIFICATE.
ENJOY YOURSELF.
WE CERTAINLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND KEEPING YOUR
EYES AND EARS OPEN FOR ISSUES THAT COME OUT IN THE
COMMUNITY.
CERTAINLY, OUR HATS ARE OFF TO TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR
ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS DURING THE HURRICANES.
APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.
[ APPLAUSE ]

9:23:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL CITY OF TAMPA,
OFFICER RAMOS, IT IS OUR GREAT PLEASURE TO HONOR YOU, SIR,
WITH THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
WE THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND ALL OF YOUR LOVED ONES FOR
EVERYTHING YOU DO.
YOU'RE WONDERFUL.
GOD BLESS YOU, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:43AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESTIGIOUS AWARD.
I APPRECIATE IT.
I'VE BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR 13 YEARS AND MY PASSION TO
KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE HAS ALWAYS BEEN TOP TIER AND WILL
CONTINUE THAT WAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
CONGRATULATIONS, AND THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU
MAKE EVERY TIME YOU PUT ON THAT UNIFORM.
AND THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY AS WELL FOR THEIR SACRIFICES.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
COUNCILMAN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH,
THIS TIME FOR NOVEMBER.

GO AHEAD.
9:24:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
NOW MOVING FORWARD TO NOVEMBER, WE HAVE SERGEANT MATTHEW
ZALANSKY WHO WILL BE WITH US.
TO INTRODUCE THIS WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL, WE ALSO HAVE CHIEF
BERCAW.
9:24:50AM >>CHIEF BERCAW:
THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PROUD TO
ANNOUNCE SERGEANT MATT ZALANSKY BEING NAMED AS OUR OFFICER
OF THE MONTH FOR NOVEMBER 2024.
MATT IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED AS A SUPERVISOR IN THE DISTRICT 2
STREET ANTICRIME SQUAD.
SERGEANT ZALANSKY OVERSEES A TEAM OF 8 OFFICERS AND A
CORPORAL.
IN ADDITION TO BEING A STAFF SERGEANT, HE ALSO SERVES AS
ASSISTANT COMMANDER TO THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT S.W.A.T.
TEAM.
DESPITE SIGNIFICANT ADMINISTRATIVE BURDENS AND CONSTANT
SCHEDULING ADJUSTMENTS REQUIRED TO MANAGE A SACK SQUAD,
SERGEANT ZALANSKY REMAINS ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE DISTRICT
INITIATIVES AND NARCOTIC INVESTIGATIONS.
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, SERGEANT ZALANSKY'S SQUAD HAS
ACHIEVED REMARKABLE RESULTS, EXECUTING FOUR SEARCH WARRANTS
THAT LED TO THE SEIZURE OF A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS
-- AND THERE IS A PLETHORA LIST, FENTANYL, METH, OXY, YOU
NAME IT.

IN ADDITION, SQUAD CONFISCATED 15 FIREARMS AND NEARLY
$50,000 IN CASH.
THROUGH DILIGENT EFFORTS, THE SQUAD MADE 157 ARRESTS AND
RECOVERED 35 FIREARMS THIS YEAR.
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE VIOLENT CRIME IN THE ENTIRE CITY
AND ESPECIALLY IN AND AROUND THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AND
NEBRASKA CORRIDOR.
THANKS TO HIS LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION, HARD WORK, SERGEANT
ZALANSKY HAS PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN ENSURING THE CITY OF TAMPA
IS A SAFER PLACE FOR EVERYONE.
AND FOR THOSE REASONS, HE'S BEING NAMED OUR OFFICER OF THE
MONTH FOR NOVEMBER.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE WE HONOR YOU, WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SHARE THEIR
APPRECIATION.
9:26:45AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
SOMEBODY THAT'S WORKED WITH SERGEANT ZALANSKY ON ONE OF
THESE SQUADS, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S WELL DESERVED.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:57AM >> GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA
THEATRE.
PLEASE ENJOY AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO EXPLORE THE TAMPA

THEATRE'S FULL OFFERINGS WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
AND PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF AT THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT, ULELE.
I KNOW -- CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT
YOU DO.
9:27:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARY LOU BAILEY.
9:27:35AM >> I'M MARK HANEY.
9:27:37AM >> BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA, I CAN TELL HE IS AN ANIMAL LOVER.
HE'LL LOVE THIS.
ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO.
MY FAVORITE IS THE MANATEE.
YOU HAVE TO CHECK OUT THE MANATEE.
ALL ANIMALS ARE WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR SERVICE.
YOU ARE ALL AWESOME.
REALLY GLAD THE GUNS AND DRUGS ARE OFF THE STREET.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE.
9:28:01AM >> WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SEA TURTLE HERE.
WE -- A LITTLE BIT EARLY TO --
9:28:11AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M WITH STEPP'S TOWING.
ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND THE ENTIRE TEAM, WE APPRECIATE

YOU.
PLEASE ENJOY DINNER ON US.
THANK YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:32AM >> BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE SAY CONGRATULATIONS
TO YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR YOU AND
YOUR FAMILY ARE SAFER BECAUSE OF YOU.
PLEASE ENJOY A PERFORMANCE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THIS
SEASON.
AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:28:46AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:51AM >> BILL CURRIE FORD.
ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU
DO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:28:57AM >> THANK YOU.
9:28:58AM >> AGAIN, I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT -- [INAUDIBLE]
FREE MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:18AM >> THANK YOU FOR KEEPING TAMPA SAFE AND MAKING IT SAFER FOR
FAMILIES.
BEHALF OF CASPER FAMILY, PRESENT WITH YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE
FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY OXFORD EXCHANGE, ANY ONE OF
OUR RESTAURANTS AND THE BOOKSTORE AT OXFORD EXCHANGE.

THANKS VERY MUCH.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:39AM >> STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING US SAFE AND YOUR LEADERSHIP TO
BE ABLE TO TAKE YOUR TEAM AND GO UP THERE AND GET THOSE
DRUGS OFF THE STREETS.
I KNOW IT'S A BIG PROBLEM OUT THERE.
APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR WORK.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:58AM >> CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER FOR THE BUCS.
AS 26.5-YEAR RETIREE, I WORKED PRIMARILY IN NARCOTICS AND
MONEY LAUNDERING MY ENTIRE CAREER.
I TRULY APPRECIATE AND HUMBLED TO PRESENT YOU WITH A GAME
BALL FROM THE TAMPA BAY BUCS ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZERS AND
CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER BRIAN FORD.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:24AM >> YOU HAVE A CHEERLEADER WITH YOU.
STAND UP HERE WITH ME?
9:30:39AM >> FOOTBALL.
9:30:43AM >> STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
FOLKS.
WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH GIFT CERTIFICATES.

GREEK RESTAURANT.
ENJOY YOURSELF THERE.
ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, ENJOY YOURSELF
THERE, BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER.
JACKSON'S BISTRO, HARBOUR ISLAND, LUNCH OR DINNER.
MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, LUNCH OR DINNER.
AND THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO.
I ALWAYS SAY THIS BUT THE CHIEF WANTS TO GO WITH YOU WHEN
YOU GO TO THE YUMMY HOUSE.
CONGRATULATIONS.
9:31:17AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
APPRECIATE IT.
9:31:19AM >> THANK YOU, BUDDY.
APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SIR, ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL CITY OF
TAMPA, IT IS OUR GREAT PLEASURE AND HONOR TO GIVE YOU, SIR,
THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING --
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:42AM >> I THINK THIS AWARD IS A PRODUCT OF MY ENVIRONMENT AND THE
TEAM THAT I HAVE AROUND ME, WHETHER IT'S MY CHAIN OF STAFF
OR THE OFFICERS I HAVE BELOW ME.
I REALLY FEEL IT'S JUST A TEAM EFFORT.

IT'S A PRODUCT OF THAT.
I COULDN'T DO IT BY MYSELF AND MY STAFF, MY MAJOR, MY
PREVIOUS MAJOR, OWEN RICHARDSON, THEY ALL SUPPORT ME THE
BEST THEY CAN, GIVE ME THE FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT OUR
INVESTIGATIONS AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED AND THE
RESOURCES THAT WE NEED AND GIVING ME THE RESOURCES TO BE
ABLE TO PICK MY OFFICERS.
WE'RE VERY DIVERSE IN THEIR INVESTIGATIVE SKILLS AND THEY
ALL SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
ALL THAT COMING TOGETHER IS WHY I WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE THIS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:32:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE, YOUR FAMILY'S
SACRIFICE, EVERY TIME YOU PUT ON THE UNIFORM AND THE WORK
YOU DO TO KEEP US SAFE.
WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOU.
9:32:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR SON DID SOMETHING THAT NOBODY IS EVER
ABLE TO DO AND THAT'S UPSTAGE LUIS VIERA.
[ LAUGHTER ]
HOW ADORABLE.
IS HE FOUR, THREE?
9:32:54AM >> THREE.
HE WILL BE THREE NEXT MONTH.
9:32:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CUTE FAMILY.
9:32:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
AND THEN FOR OUR LAST COMMENDATION TODAY, AND WILL IS -- GO
AHEAD.
FOR OUR LAST COMMENDATION, WE HAVE CHIEF TRIPP.
CAN WE WAIT 15 SECONDS?
9:33:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:33:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
NEXT WE DO OUR TAMPA FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS WONDERFUL FIREFIGHTER, LIEUTENANT
TIM BURNHAM.
CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP.
9:34:06AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
THIS MORNING I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE RESCUE LIEUTENANT TIM
BURNHAM FOR FIREFIGHTER OF THE FOURTH QUARTER.
JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MR. BURNHAM, FIVE-YEAR
VETERAN WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
DIVERSIFIED EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING AS A FIREFIGHTER,
PARAMEDIC AND RISEN THROUGH THE RANKS TO LIEUTENANT AND
CURRENTLY HOLDS POSITION OF QUALITY ASSURANCE ASSISTANT.
LIEUTENANT BURNHAM IS CURRENTLY HOLDING THE FOLLOWING
CERTIFICATION, PARAMEDIC FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, CRITICAL

CARE TRANSPORT PARAMEDIC, FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, BIKE
MEDIC, PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM MEDIC, ADVANCED CARDIAC LIFE
SUPPORT, PEDIATRIC ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT INSTRUCTOR AND FIRE
INSTRUCTOR 2, FIRE OFFICER ONE AND FIRE OFFICER TWO.
DESPITE HAVING AN IMPRESSIVE CAREER WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE,
HIS ABILITY TO MENTOR OTHERS AND MAKE -- COMES FROM THE
FORMAL EDUCATION AND DIVERSIFIED EXPERIENCE IN EMERGENCY
SERVICES.
HE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM
FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY AND BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND FIRE ADMINISTRATION FROM THE
UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
HE ALSO HAS ASSOCIATES OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN FIRE SCIENCE
FROM ST. PETE COLLEGE.
TOTAL OF 14 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN EMERGENCY MEDICAL
SERVICES AND WORKED AS A PARAMEDIC DRIVER AND ACTING CAPTAIN
FOR PINELLAS SUNCOAST FIRE AND RESCUE.
LIEUTENANT BURNHAM IS RESPECTED BY ALL AND HAS A COMPETENT
AND PASSIONATE -- COMPETENT AND COMPASSIONATE OFFICER WHO
LEADS BY EXAMPLE CONSISTENTLY LOOKING TO IMPROVE HIMSELF AND
HIS PERSONNEL AND, OF COURSE, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
AS VIEWED THROUGH HIS EDUCATION AND WORK EXPERIENCE,
LIEUTENANT BURNHAM LIVES TO EDUCATE OTHERS.
HE'S BEEN ASSIGNED AS A QUALITY ASSURANCE ASSISTANT AND HAS
BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ASSISTING WITH REVISING THE

IMPLEMENTATION OF ADVANCED MEDICAL PROTOCOLS AS WELL AS
CREATING DATA DRIVEN TRAINING THROUGH TRENDS OF ANALYSIS
FROM QUALITY ASSURANCE PERSPECTIVE IMPROVING THE CARE OF OUR
DEPARTMENT, THAT OUR DEPARTMENT PROVIDES TO THE CITIZENS OF
TAMPA.
WHILE HIS ACHIEVEMENT ON DUTY ARE COMMENDABLE, LIEUTENANT
BURNHAM VOLUNTARILY CONTRIBUTES HIS -- CONTRIBUTE TO MEMBERS
AND COMMUNITY ARE UNMATCHED.
THIS PAST YEAR HE TOOK HIS EXPERIENCE AS A FIELD TRAINING
OFFICER AND AS FAR AS BEING PART OF THE MEDICAL PROTOCOL FOR
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND ASSISTS WITH REVISING THE PARAMEDIC
DEVELOPMENT AND ASSESSMENT PROGRAM.
THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED BY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
OF COURSE, HE HAS TAKEN THE POSITION AS LEAD INSTRUCTOR AND
REDUCING THE TIMELINE WHEN WE ARE TRAINING OUR PERSONNEL TO
BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
WITH THIS, HE HAS ASSISTED WITH TRAINING OVER ALMOST A
HUNDRED INDIVIDUALS IN THE LAST YEAR.
HE ALSO VOLUNTEERS TIME TO ORGANIZATIONS AND BENEFITS OUR
COMMUNITY.
FOR EXAMPLE, HE DOES THE FIGHT FOR AIR STAIR CLIMB.
ASSISTS DURING HOLIDAYS WITH TAMPA BAY FEEDING INDIVIDUALS
IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO AN ELECTED MEMBER OF THE CIVIL
SERVICE BOARD FOR THE CITY OF CLEARWATER.
LIEUTENANT BURNHAM IS A HUSBAND AS WELL AS A FATHER AND, OF

COURSE, WE KNOW HIM TO BE A MAN DEDICATED TO IMPROVING --
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND OUR MEMBERS.
A NATURAL LEADER WHO INFLUENCES AND ENCOURAGES OTHERS TO DO
THE SAME.
THE LEVEL OF DEDICATION HE HAS FOR THE PROFESSION AS WELL AS
OUR ORGANIZATION.
FOR THAT REASON WE NOMINATE LIEUTENANT BURNHAM AS THE
FIREFIGHTER OF THE FOURTH QUARTER.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:37:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HERE WHO WANT
TO SHARE THEIR APPRECIATION.
9:38:06AM >> GRACE GONZALEZ.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE STATE OF
FLORIDA, TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU FOR CARING.
ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA THEATRE, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS
ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY ALL THE
TAMPA THEATRE HAS TO OFFER.
ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF
RESTAURANTS, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS GIFT CARD TO YOU
AND YOUR FAMILY.
ENJOY RELAXATION AND NIGHT OFF.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]

9:38:38AM >> LIEUTENANT, CONGRATULATIONS.
RECOGNIZE AND PROVIDE YOU THIS HUMBLE PLAQUE FROM THE
FIREFIGHTERS UNION MADE BY ONE OF OUR FELLOW FIREFIGHTERS.
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARY LOU BAILEY.
HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
9:38:56AM >> MARK HANEY WITH ZOO TAMPA.
9:38:58AM >> I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR CREDENTIALS.
YOU HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE BECAUSE YOU ARE SO YOUNG.
AWESOME WHAT YOU HAVE ACHIEVED.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
WE PURCHASED AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOU AND
YOUR FAMILY.
THANK YOU TO YOUR WHOLE FAMILY FOR SUPPORTING YOU.
I KNOW WHAT THAT TAKES.
CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.
9:39:15AM >> WE'VE GOT, ALONG WITH THE MEMBERSHIP, WE HAVE A -- MANY
THINK IT IS RELATED TO ZEBRA, BUT THEY ARE RELATED TO
GIRAFFES.
THEY ARE THE ONE OF THE MOST ENDANGERED AND RARE ANIMALS IN
THE WORLD.
SORT OF LIKE YOU.
RARE, NOT ENDANGERED.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:38AM >> LORI OSBORNE WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND CONGRATULATIONS ON
THIS AWARD.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WITH A
PERFORMANCE THIS SEASON.
AGAIN, THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:58AM >> THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR TAMPA, FOR CLEARWATER, FOR
THE WHOLE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
ON BEHALF OF CASPERS FAMILY, PRESENT YOU WITH A GIFT
CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY WITH YOUR FAMILY AT ANY OF OUR
RESTAURANTS, THE LIBRARY IN ST. PETE, OXFORD EXCHANGE,
PREDALINA AND ALSO THE BOOKSTORE AT OXFORD EXCHANGE.
THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR DOING THIS ALL THE TIME.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:23AM >> STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
EXTREMELY IMPRESSED WITH THAT LIST OF CREDENTIALS YOU HAVE
DONE.
IT IS EXHAUSTING JUST TO HEAR.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BUT CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS KEEPING US
SAFE.

I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU AROUND IN A CRISIS.
ENJOY A NIGHT AT THE STRAZ.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:48AM >> MIRANDA WITH STEPP'S TOWING.
ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND ENTIRE STEPP'S TOWING AND HEAVY
TRANSPORT TEAM, THANK YOU.
PLEASE ENJOY DINNER ON US.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:01AM >> BILL CURRIE FORD.
GIVE YOU THIS GIFT CARD.
THERE IS A LETTER IN THERE.
FREE OIL CHANGE, MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:21AM >> CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER FOR THE TAMPA BAY BUCS.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZERS AND FIRE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER
BRIAN FORD ALSO A FLORIDA STATE ALUMNI, I KNOW HE WOULD LIKE
ME TO MENTION THAT AND THE ENTIRE BUCCANEER ORGANIZATION, WE
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND EVERYTHING YOU DO TO
KEEP US SAFE.
9:41:40AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:45AM >> GETTING BUSY UP HERE.

ONE OF THESE GUYS WANT TO COME UP HERE WITH ME?
NO.
[ LAUGHTER ]
STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
FOLKS.
GUESS WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO LET YOUR MOM AND DAD AND MAYBE
YOU GO TO THE YUMMY HOUSE.
YOU LIKE THAT?
HOW ABOUT GREEK FOOD?
DO YOU LIKE GREEK FOOD?
DON'T KNOW.
WELL, YOU GET TO GO, MAYBE.
YOU CAN TRY IT OUT, RIGHT?
HOW ABOUT MEAT MARKET.
THAT'S REALLY FOR MOM AND DAD.
THAT'S A SPECIAL NIGHT FOR THEM, OKAY.
JACKSON'S BISTRO.
THAT'S ANOTHER SPECIAL TIME FOR MOM AND DAD.
DAILY EATS, BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER, SCRAMBLED EGGS,
PANCAKES, ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.
YOU CAN GO ON THAT ONE.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE FOR YOU.
YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, MENTIONED THAT ALREADY.
REALLY HAPPY FOR YOU AND CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR
ACHIEVEMENTS.

WANT TO THANK ALL THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FOR ALL OF THEIR
DEDICATED SERVICE DURING THE RECENT STORMS AND MAKING OUR
COMMUNITY SAFE.
THAT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT ON BEHALF OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
WE ALL APPRECIATE IT.
WE DON'T SEE YOU ALL THE TIME, BUT DURING TIMES OF NEED YOU
ARE THERE AND WE APPRECIATE THAT 24/7.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO, LIEUTENANT, ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY,
IT IS OUR GREAT PLEASURE TO GIVE YOU THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
COMMENDATION.
I WAS TELLING YOU, WHISPERED TO YOU BEFORE, YOU HAVE A GOOD
RESUM TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
THAT IS A COMPLIMENT.
THANK YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:35AM >> I'LL KEEP IT VERY BRIEF.
IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITY OF TAMPA AND AN HONOR TO
BE RECOGNIZED BUT WE HAVE A RANK AND FILE THAT SHOULD BE
RECOGNIZED EVERY SINGLE DAY.
A FEW HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN ON, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY
OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO DO GOOD.

I'M HAPPY TO BE PART OF THAT RANK AND FILE.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:44:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, YOUR SACRIFICE, YOUR TEAM, EVERYBODY
THAT'S HERE IN THIS ROOM.
THE SACRIFICE YOU MAKE FOR US TO KEEP US SAFE EACH AND EVERY
DAY AND, OF COURSE, YOUR FAMILY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
THE SACRIFICE THAT THEY MAKE EVERY TIME YOU PUT ON THE
UNIFORM AND GO TO WORK.
CONGRATULATIONS.
WELL DESERVED, AMAZING REVENUE.
WE APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT YOU GIVE TO THIS ENTIRE
COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WE'LL TAKE A FEW SECONDS TO CLEAR OUT THE ROOM HERE.
NEXT UP, CHUCK CARDEN TO PROVIDE A FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION
AND PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF TAMPA BAY WATER AND MAJOR
INITIATIVES.
THERE IS ALSO A PowerPoint PRESENTATION ATTACHED TO THIS.
COUNCILMAN VIERA -- MIRANDA, THIS IS YOUR MOTION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KICK IT OFF?
9:45:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'VE HAD A RUN-IN WITH MR. BENNETT ON A

FRIENDLY BASIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND HE WAS A GREAT
ATHLETE.
LEFT HERE, FAMILY, FANTASTIC BALLPLAYERS.
GARDEN.
NOT ONLY -- CARDEN, NOT ONLY A GREAT LEADER AT TAMPA BAY
WATER, HE WAS ALSO BASEBALL TEAM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
I THINK HE PLAYED SECOND BASE.
HE IS A GREAT GUY AND KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING WITH WATER.
IT'S A COMMITTEE OF SIX GOVERNMENTS AND THREE -- WELL, ALL
-- PASCO, PINELLAS, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CITY OF TAMPA, NEW
PORT RICHEY AND ST. PETERSBURG.
HE CREATES ABOUT 200 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY UNDER
HIS LEADERSHIP.
THE ONLY ONE THAT PRODUCES WATER TO ANY DEGREE, OTHER THAN
THE CITY OF TAMPA WHICH PRODUCES ABOUT 82 MILLION GALLONS A
DAY ON THE AVERAGE.
HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.
BOARD MEMBERS THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING EXCEPT ONE.
I WON'T MENTION WHO THAT WAS.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HE'S DONE TO KEEP THE PLACE RUNNING
AS IT SHOULD BE.
HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.
BEEN THERE MANY YEARS, BUT I THINK THREE OR FOUR YEARS I
BELIEVE AS THE PERSON IN CHARGE.
HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

CHUCK CARDEN FROM TAMPA BAY WATER, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
9:47:20AM >> THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU PRETTY MUCH DID MY WHOLE
PRESENTATION FOR ME.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I DID WANT TO SPEND A FEW MOMENTS THIS MORNING TO UPDATE YOU
ON SOME OF OUR RECENT ACTIVITIES AND THEN AT THE END, I'LL
BE VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
TAMPA BAY WATER'S MISSION IS VERY SIMPLE.
IT IS TO PROVIDE RELIABLY CLEAN, SAFE DRINKING WATER TO THE
TAMPA BAY REGION NOT ONLY NOW BUT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
AS A QUICK OVERVIEW, WE WERE FORMED IN 1998 TO END WHAT
YOU'VE HEARD I'M SURE THE DECADES-OLD WATER WARS.
AND WE ALSO WERE MANDATED TO REDUCE GROUNDWATER PUMPING THAT
AFFECTED THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE ARE A NONPROFIT SPECIAL DISTRICT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA,
AND WE SERVE MORE THAN 2.5 MILLION PEOPLE THROUGH OUR
SIX-MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE ARE THE ONLY WATER UTILITY IN THE
UNITED STATES THAT USES THREE SOURCES OF WATER THAT BLEND
TOGETHER, AND THAT IS THE GROUNDWATER, SURFACE WATER, AND
DESALINATED SEAWATER.
WE HAVE 163 EMPLOYEES, AND WE CHARGE EACH OF THE MEMBER
GOVERNMENTS THE SAME WHOLESALE RATE OF $2.62 PER THOUSAND

GALLONS.
TAMPA, AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, HAS A SELF-SUPPLY OF 82
MILLION GALLONS A DAY, BUT THERE ARE TIMES IN THE PAST AND
INTO THE FUTURE THEY BUY WATER FROM US.
SO THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR WE JUST STARTED, WE HAVE
BUDGETED, CITY OF TAMPA TO PURCHASE 4.1 MILLION GALLONS A
DAY.
TWO YEARS AGO IN '23, THE CITY PURCHASED ALMOST 5 MILLION
GALLONS A DAY.
AND THEN LAST YEAR, THE YEAR WE JUST ENDED, ALMOST 4 MILLION
GALLONS A DAY.
THE CREATION OF TAMPA BAY WATER I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE ENDED
THE WATER WARS.
SINCE MY LAST UPDATE, I WAS HERE LAST YEAR.
I CAN'T QUITE REMEMBER WHEN BUT I GAVE YOU AN UPDATE LAST
YEAR, WE ARE WORKING HARD TO ADDRESS NEW WATER QUALITY
PARAMETERS.
WE ARE MEETING THE REGION'S SHORT-TERM WATER NEEDS, BUT NOT
ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO THE LONGER TERM GROWTH NEEDS.
AND, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, THE REGION HAS HAD SOME
WEATHER, FEW STORMS RECENTLY.
I KNOW THAT YOU AND ALL THE OTHER MEMBER GOVERNMENTS
CONTINUE TO RECOVER FROM THE BACK-TO-BACK HURRICANES THAT
HIT OUR REGION.
I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE REGIONAL DRINKING WATER

SYSTEM WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE PROVIDING WATER TO ALL OF THE
MEMBER GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT BOTH STORMS, DESPITE THE
WIDESPREAD REGIONAL POWER OUTAGES, WIND AND FLOOD DAMAGES.
I ALSO KNOW THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF WORKED VERY HARD
THROUGHOUT THE STORMS TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED DELIVERY OF
WATER TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
WE COORDINATED WITH YOUR STAFF THROUGHOUT BOTH EVENTS VERY
WELL AND THE COMMUNICATION WAS VERY DONE WELL.
THIS GRAPH REPRESENTS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE
DELIVERED IN THE WATER YEAR 2023 VERSUS WATER YEAR 2024.
AS YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU COULD QUESTION THAT ALMOST THE SAME
AMOUNT OF WATER FOR BOTH YEARS AND YOU'D SAY HOW CAN THAT BE
WITH ALL THE NEW GROWTH AND THE DROUGHT WE HAD THAT STARTED
ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ISSUED A
ONE-DAY-A-WEEK WATER RESTRICTION LAST YEAR, AND IT WAS A
TREMENDOUS HELP IN KEEPING DEMANDS DOWN AND ALLOWING US TO
REDUCE OUR USE OF 15.5 BILLION GALLON RESERVOIR.
WE USE THAT RESERVOIR AS OUR WATER SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
IT WAS GETTING LOWER AND LOWER, SO THE WATER RESTRICTIONS
AND WITH EVERYONE'S HELP, IT MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE
DROUGHT.
SPEAKING OF THE RESERVOIR, YOU SEE A PICTURE OF IT ON THE
RIGHT.
IT CURRENTLY IS AT TOP FULL CAPACITY OF 15.5 BILLION

GALLONS.
THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN I SAY THAT TO YOU.
WE TRY TO GET IT FULL BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER 30th OF
EVERY YEAR.
ON JULY 14, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS AT 2.28 MILLION
GALLONS -- BILLION GALLONS.
SO 2 TO 15 IN, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A FEW MONTHS IS
REMARKABLE.
WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THE RAIN.
I KNOW SOME OF THE FOLKS HAVE SUFFERED FROM THE FLOODING.
WE DID GET OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT REPLENISHED.
OUR DESAL PLANT, WE DO HAVE A DESAL PLANT IN APOLLO BEACH.
IT IS BEING READY TO BE STARTED UP LATER THIS MONTH.
IT HAD TO BE TAKEN OFF-LINE LAST OCTOBER FOR REPAIR WORK, SO
WE GOT THROUGH THE DROUGHT WITHOUT THE USE OF ONE OF OUR
THREE SOURCES.
AND THAT WILL BE BACK VERY SOON.
REGARDLESS OF THE SOURCE, ALL THE WATER WE SUPPLY TO OUR
MEMBER GOVERNMENTS MEETS OR SURPASSES ALL OF THE DRINKING
WATER STANDARDS.
AND WE'RE TAKING STEPS TO ENSURE THAT WE KEEP PACE WITH THE
NEW WATER QUALITY REGULATIONS.
THESE REGULATIONS INCLUDE WHAT THEY CALL THE POLYFLUOROALKYL
SUBSTANCES.
THOSE ARE KNOWN AS PFAS OR FOREVER CHEMICALS.

THEY ARE MAN-MADE CHEMICALS FOUND IN EVERYDAY PRODUCTS THAT
WE USE.
NEW REGULATIONS CAME OUT AND THEY ARE AT 4 PARTS PER
TRILLION.
THERE'S FIVE YEARS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
SO THE YEAR 2029, YOU HAVE TO BE UNDER THE FOUR PARTS PER
TRILLION IF YOU HAVE PFOS IN YOUR SYSTEM.
WE COMPLETED LAST YEAR FOUR QUARTERLY TESTING RESULTS TO SEE
IF WE HAD PFOS IN THE SYSTEM OR NOT.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, DOWN IN THE SOUTH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
AREA IN WHAT WE CALL THE BRANDON WILLIAMS, THE NUMBER WAS
SLIGHTLY OVER THE 4.
SO WE'VE HIRED A CONSULTANT THAT IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT
THINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AND A REPORT WILL BE OUT TO THE
TAMPA BAY WATER BOARD IN EARLY JANUARY/FEBRUARY TO DEAL WITH
THE TREATMENT PRIMARILY IN THAT AREA OF THE REGION.
ALL OTHER TESTS WERE BELOW THE 4 OR NON-DETECT.
BEYOND WATER QUALITY, WE ARE ALSO FOCUSING ON INCREASING THE
QUANTITY.
WE HAVE TO MEET THE FUTURE GROWTH NEEDS OF THE AREA.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TWO MAJOR PROJECTS IN THE WORKS TO MEET
THE DEMANDS BY THE YEAR 2028.
WE ARE WORKING TO EXPAND OUR SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT
TO BETWEEN 10 AND 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
AND THE EXPANSION IS CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE AND IT IS

SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF 2028.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE WERE ALSO DESIGNING A NEW SOUTH
HILLSBOROUGH PIPELINE.
THE PIPELINE IS A 26-MILE PIPELINE THAT WILL CARRY NEW WATER
TO THE FASTEST GROWING AREA IN OUR REGION, SOUTH
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
IT WILL BE BUILT IN TWO SEGMENTS.
SEGMENT A AND A SEGMENT B.
TAMPA BAY WATER IS FUNDING SEGMENT A AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
IS FUNDING SEGMENT B.
THIS PIPELINE IS ALSO SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF
THE FISCAL YEAR 2028.
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE FOR NEW SUPPLIES.
OUR DEMAND PROJECTION SHOW WE NEED BETWEEN 10 AND 15 MILLION
GALLONS A DAY BY THE YEAR 2033 AND A TOTAL OF ABOUT 25
MILLION GALLONS A DAY BY THE YEAR 2043.
LAST NOVEMBER, THE BOARD APPROVED SEVEN PROJECTS.
YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE ON THE GRAPH FOR FURTHER FEASIBILITY
STUDIES.
THE PROJECTS ARE ORDERED FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, AND
THEY ARE SPATIALLY DIVERSE AND ALSO USE DIFFERING SUPPLIES.
THEY INCLUDE FRESH GROUNDWATER, BRACKISH GROUNDWATER,
SURFACE WATER, AND ADDITIONAL SEAWATER DESAL.
WE JUST RECENTLY STARTED THE FEASIBILITY STUDIES ON THESE
PROJECTS, AND IF ANY OF THEM ARE FEASIBLE TECHNICALLY,

ENVIRONMENTALLY, AND ECONOMICALLY, WE WILL BE BRINGING THEM
BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A RECOMMENDATION BETWEEN '27 AND '28,
TO HAVE THE BOARD APPROVE THEM TO BE ONLINE BY THE YEAR
2033.
WE ALSO CONTINUALLY ANALYZE OUR SYSTEM HYDRAULICS AND
EMERGENCY SCENARIOS.
WE GENERALLY HAVE BEEN UPDATING THIS REPORT EVERY TEN YEARS.
WE MEET WITH ALL THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS, AND WE DISCUSS
DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
THE GOAL HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, WE
HAVE SOME BACKUP AND RESILIENCY AND RELIABILITY.
WE HAVE KICKED THAT OFF.
BY NEXT YEAR, WE SHOULD HAVE THE REPORT DONE.
GENERALLY WHAT HAPPENS, IT IDENTIFIES AREA OF WEAKNESS
VULNERABILITY AND A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ARE BORN
FROM THIS.
YOU ARE ABLE TO GET AHEAD OF THINGS AND PLAN FOR THEM BEFORE
THEY HAPPEN.
WITH THE RECENT STORMS, THAT IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOME
OF THE THINGS.
I HEARD ABOUT A HOT WASH EARLIER, WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR HOT
WASH ON OUR STORM EVENTS, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO
SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE MEETINGS WHERE WE
SEE WHAT DIDN'T WORK FOR US AND DID WORK FOR US AND SEE IF

WE CAN DO A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY IN TIME FOR THE NEXT STORM
SEASON THAT'S JUST AROUND THE CORNER HERE IN JUNE.
THAT WAS JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
IT'S A VERY BUSY TIME AT TAMPA BAY WATER.
THE REGION IS GROWING VERY FAST AND THERE ARE SOME NEW
REGULATIONS IN THE WATER QUALITY THAT ARE OUT THERE.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO SERVING THE COMMUNITY EVERY DAY, AND I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW ME TO GIVE
YOU INSIGHT ON WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
9:57:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:57:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE JOB YOU DO.
WATER IS A VERY FICKLE PROJECT.
WHEN YOU HAVE IT, YOU DON'T NEED IT.
WHEN YOU DON'T -- IT EVAPORATES, 15, 18 PERCENT OF THE
VOLUME EVERY SINGLE DAY.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
YES, WE HAVE AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY.
THE CITY OF TAMPA PUTS IN 1.2 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER
UNDERGROUND BETWEEN THE SUMMER MONTHS OF JULY, AUGUST,
SEPTEMBER.
TREATED, PUT BACK IN GROUND.
WHEN WE NEED IT, USUALLY IN FEBRUARY THROUGH APRIL AND MAY,
WE PULL UP 8 OR 10 MILLION GALLONS OUT OF THAT, RETREAT IT

AND SEND IT BACK OUT.
HOWEVER, NOTICE HOW MANY TIMES WE TREATED THE WATER --
TWICE.
YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OUR ONLY RESERVOIR ONLY HOLDS
1.2 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER AND LIKE A PLATE DISH.
IN THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER RIGHT WHERE THE DAM IS AT JUST TO
THE EAST OF IT.
THOSE THINGS ARE ALL NECESSARY FOR US TO BE A GOOD PARTNER
WITH TAMPA BAY WATER.
WE BUY AND SELL, MOSTLY BUY FROM TAMPA BAY WATER.
ON OCCASION THEY BUY A FEW DROPS OF WATER FROM US.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES US ALL CONTINUOUSLY WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE
AT A VERY REASONABLE PRICE COMPARED TO OTHERS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BY THE WAY, I'M NOT GOING TO BANG MYSELF IN THE HEAD, BUT
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ONLY ONE OF FIVE UTILITY COMPANIES IN
THE WHOLE UNITED STATES THAT HAS AAA BOND RATING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
9:58:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:58:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
THE EXPLOSIVE GROWTH YOU REFERRED TO AND THE OTHER SOURCES,
IS THERE ENOUGH RECHARGE, RAIN COMING INTO THE SYSTEM TO
SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF GROWTH AND EXPANSION OF PULLING THAT
MUCH WATER OUT OF THE SYSTEM WITHIN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY?

9:59:15AM >> WELL, THAT IS A GROUNDWATER.
WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO MODEL TO SEE THE IMPACTS OF PULLING
GROUNDWATER OUT, I KNOW THAT AREA IS WHAT THEY CALL IN A
WATER CAUTION USE AREA.
YOU CANNOT GET WATER OUT OF THERE CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF SOME
OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS.
WE DO HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WITH HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY TO BE ALLOWED TO DO SOME GROUNDWATER WITHDRAWAL IN
THAT AREA, ONLY FOR THE FACT THAT THEY ARE PUTTING TREATED
RECLAIMED WATER DOWN ON THE COAST THAT'S ACTING -- PRESSURE
BUILDUP INTERNALLY INTO THE COUNTY WHICH LIFTS THE WATER
TABLE AND WE MODELED TO BE ABLE TO USE PROBABLY 6 MILLION
GALLONS A DAY IN A NEW WELL FIELD INLAND ABOUT FIVE MILES
FROM WHERE THEY ARE INJECTING RECLAIMED WATER.
INSTANCES LIKE THAT, THAT CAN BE DONE.
BUT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THE REGULATIONS IS NO WATER IN THAT
WATER USE CAUTION AREA.
10:00:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS CONFUSED TO SEE THIS ON YOUR MAP OF
PROPOSED SITES THERE.
I'M THINKING THAT'S INTERESTING.
IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO, A LOT OF OUR WELLS -- OUR WELLS
WERE DRY.
PONDS WERE DRY.
FARMERS WERE STRUGGLING TO GET WATER TO DO THEIR CROPS.
OF COURSE, WE HAD SEVERE WATER RESTRICTIONS.

I KNOW I SHARE THAT WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CONCERNED ABOUT
THE LIMITED WATER SUPPLY AND THE TYPE OF GROWTH, ESPECIALLY
IN THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET WATER INTO THESE COUNTIES WITH THESE
PRESSURES?
10:00:49AM >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION TO ALLOW ME TO EXPAND ON TAMPA
BAY WATER.
WE EXPANDED -- WE WERE CREATED IN 1998, EACH OF THE MEMBERS
KIND OF HAD THEIR OWN LITTLE SYSTEM.
WHAT WE DID IS WE DIVERSED OUR SUPPLY.
WE WENT AWAY FROM GROUNDWATER AND BUILT A SEAWATER DESAL
PLANT, RESERVOIR TREATMENT PLANT AND KEY POINT, WE
INTERCONNECTED THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
I DON'T THINK I HAD THE MAP THAT SHOWS IT VERY WELL.
IF YOU SAW THE BEFORE AND AFTER, YOU HAD THESE POCKETS.
I CALLED THEM ISLANDS.
THAT WAS IT.
THAT'S WHAT THE MEMBERS GOT.
NOW EVERYTHING IS INTERCONNECTED.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE WATER AROUND FROM DIFFERENT
AREAS.
IF THERE IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS SOME HELP, RECOVERY, WE CAN
ROTATE OUR WELL FIELD WATER.
WE CAN SEND WATER NORTH.
WE CAN SEND WATER SOUTH.

SO WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO WHERE WE ARE AT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE ONE WE GO IN ONE BASKET.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF EGGS.
WE HAVE LOTS OF OPTIONS NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE.
10:01:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DESAL PLANT OPERATING AT FULL CAPACITY,
HOW MANY GALLONS A DAY WOULD IT GENERATE?
10:01:56AM >> 20 MILLION GALLONS A DAY WOULD BE FULL CAPACITY.
THAT IS OUR INTENTION BY THE CALENDAR YEAR END OF THIS YEAR,
DECEMBER, INTENDING TO BE AT 20 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
10:02:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY EXPANSION PROPOSAL WOULD GENERATE HOW
MUCH?
10:02:09AM >> CAN BE EXPANDED UP TO 35 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
THERE WAS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS PLACED ORIGINALLY TO HAVE
A FUTURE EXPANSION.
SO 35 IS THE TOP LIMIT THAT IT CAN GO TO.
10:02:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PERSPECTIVE, HOW MUCH WATER DO YOU
DISTRIBUTE TO YOUR USERS EVERY DAY?
10:02:25AM >> AVERAGE IS ABOUT 200 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
OF COURSE, THAT DIFFERS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE CAN GO 250, 260 DURING THE DRY SEASON AND THEN GET AS LOW
AS 175 DURING THE WETTER MONTHS.
BUT ALSO, DURING THE DAY, IT DOES THAT SAME THING.
EARLY IN THE MORNING, RIGHT AFTER 5:30 OR SO, YOU'LL SEE THE
SPIKE.
THE AVERAGE IS A MISLEADING NUMBER.

SOMETIMES YOU SAY, 200.
BUT YOU GOT TO BE READY FOR 260, 270 AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT.
10:03:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STILL ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF OUR DAILY
NEEDS.
PEOPLE THINK THAT THE DESAL PLANT IS UNLIMITED SUPPLY OF
WATER, IT'S JUST A SMALL PORTION.
10:03:10AM >> 10%, QUICK 20 OVER 200.
10:03:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:03:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
ALL RIGHT.
WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
10:03:16AM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:03:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE
RECESS AND WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE OVER TWO HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH WILL TAKE US
TO GIVE OR TAKE 12:30.
I'LL DO THE CONSENT AGENDA AFTER AND THEN BREAK FOR LUNCH.
WE'LL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BRING
MORE PEOPLE WAITING TO COME IN TO SPEAK.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
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10:14:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WELCOME BACK.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:14:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.

10:15:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
10:15:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
10:15:03AM >> HENDERSON?
10:15:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
10:15:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
10:15:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
10:15:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
10:15:07AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:15:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
THEY WILL GO FIRST AND WE'LL GO TO THE IN-PERSON, MR.
FRANKLIN PEREZ.
IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:15:25AM >> HI.
THIS IS FRANKLIN PEREZ.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:15:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:15:29AM >> HI.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:15:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
GO AHEAD.
10:15:33AM >> GREAT.
HELLO, MY NAME IS FRANKLIN PEREZ.
I LIVE IN SEMINOLE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
I AM HERE TO DEMAND THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO

RETAIN THE POLICE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD, NOT TO DISSOLVE IT.
THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA FOUGHT HARD TO GET A SMALL AMOUNT OF
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND YOU SHOULD STAND UP TO RON
DESANTIS' ATTEMPTS TO SILENCE ANY LEGITIMATE DEMANDS FOR
POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.
AS OUR POLICE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD CAN ONLY REVIEW CLOSED
CASES AND NOT ISSUE ANY DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS AGAINST THE
POLICE, THERE IS NO REASON TO DISSOLVE IT.
ACCORDING TO THE BILL 601, BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN
THAT, YOU SHOULD ALL STAND UP AGAINST RON DESANTIS' PATHETIC
ATTEMPTS TO BULLY THE PEOPLE AND STOMP OUT LOCAL DEMOCRACY.
PEOPLE NEED SOME WAY TO PUBLICLY EXPRESS THEIR ISSUES WITH
POLICE BRUTALITY AND MISCONDUCT WHICH IS CLEARLY STILL A
PROBLEM IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
AS EVIDENCED BY THE POLICE BRUTALITY INFLICTED AGAINST THE
LOCAL ACTIVIST CARLOS -- SAVE THE POLICE CITIZEN REVIEW
BOARD.
SAY NO TO DESANTIS' ATTACKS ON THE PEOPLE.
ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT WE TRULY NEED IS A POLICE
ACCOUNTABILITY ACT THAT WILL REQUIRE THE FORMATION OF
CIVILIAN POLICE REVIEW BOARDS WITH REAL TEETH TO OVERSEE
STATE, COUNTY, AND CITY POLICE DEPARTMENTS WITH THE FULL
POWERS TO INDEPENDENTLY INVESTIGATE, DISCIPLINE, AND
TERMINATE PROBLEM POLICE OFFICERS.
WE ALSO NEED TO DO AWAY WITH QUALIFIED IMMUNITY BECAUSE IT

GIVES POLICE OFFICERS A VIRTUAL LICENSE TO KILL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
10:17:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
MR. RANDOLPH.
10:17:25AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I WANT TO START OFF BY GIVING A SHOUT-OUT TO THE MEN AND
WOMEN OF -- I'M ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEVER LEARNED
HOW TO DRIVE, SO I DEPEND ON THE HARTLINE BUS TO GET ME TO
AND FROM.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I ALSO USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SURVEY THE COMMUNITY AND GET A FEEL TO SAY TO WHAT REGULAR
PEOPLE THINK.
WHAT I NOTICED OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS, MAYBE THREE MONTHS,
THERE HAS BEEN A GROWING TENSION BETWEEN THE HARTLINE
WORKERS AND PEOPLE WHO -- PARTLY BECAUSE A LOT OF BUSES HAVE
BEEN PULLED OUT OF SERVICE, HENCE WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE
THE BUS IS RUNNING LATE.
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EMPLOYEES.
WHAT I'M NOTICING, ONGOING CONFLICT BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO CATCH
THE BUS AND THE BUS LATE AND THE BUS DRIVER WHO IS TRYING TO
-- I FEAR THIS COULD ERODE TO A PHYSICAL TYPE OF SITUATION.
I PRAY THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN.

I DID MAKE THAT OBSERVATION RELATED TO THE HARTLINE.
A LOT OF TENSION IS GOING ON THERE.
AGAIN, SHOUT-OUT TO THE EMPLOYEES AND WHAT THEY HAD TO PUT
UP WITH.
THE NEXT IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
ELECTIONS DO HAVE IMPACT.
HEADING TOWARDS A TERRIBLE TIME.
AGENCIES LIKE -- CLIMATE CHANGE, CIVIL RIGHTS, REGULATORY
AGENCIES BEING TAKEN APART.
I'M VERY FEARFUL ABOUT WHAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN, BUT I AM
ALSO CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN MAKE IT THROUGH
ANYTHING AND THAT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
PEOPLE SHOULDN'T FEAR WHAT TO HAPPEN BUT ONLY TO EMBRACE IT
AND MOVE FORWARD.
10:19:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
WE'LL GO TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
FIRST IS BISHOP MICHELLE PATTY FOLLOWED BY LANCE KANE AND
MICHELLE TURNER.
10:19:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, YES.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
JUST A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC, AS THE CHAIR STATED, IF
YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON STAFF REPORTS OR ANYTHING ON THE
CONSENT AGENDA, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT ARE SET FOR PUBLIC
HEARING, AS THE WAY IT'S SET FORTH IN THE AGENDA, IF IT'S

SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, YOUR TIME TO SPEAK WOULD BE AT THE
TIME OF PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
AGAIN, A REMINDER, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY NOW TO SPEAK
ABOUT ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND STAFF REPORTS.
IF YOU WANT TO OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULE, THE STAFF
REPORTS WILL BE HEARD THIS AFTERNOON.
SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY TO HEAR THE STAFF REPORTS
OR WATCH THEM EITHER ON CCTV OR ONLINE AS STREAMED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BISHOP PATTY.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:20:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
I STAND BEFORE YOU.
THIS IS A BITTERSWEET MOMENT FOR ME AND MS. NORENE COPELAND
MILLER'S FAMILY.
WE'RE HERE TO THANK THE MAYOR, JANE CASTOR, CITY COUNCIL,
JANELLE McGREGORY, CEDRIC McCRAY, ALL OF YOU THAT HAS
BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE MEMORIAL CEMETERY THAT SHE
FOUGHT SO HARD TO RECEIVE.
SHE GAINED HER WINGS ON OCTOBER THE 15, AND WE KNEW THIS
WOULD BE A PLACE SHE WOULD HAVE WANTED TO COME TO THANK YOU
FOR THE FENCE.
THE FENCE NOW IS A PERMANENT FENCE THAT HAS BEEN ERECTED.

WE JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD COME DOWN WITH HER DAUGHTERS AND
FAMILY AND COMMUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL THAT
YOU WERE VERY DILIGENT AND YOU ALL MADE SURE THAT THINGS
TOOK PLACE OUT THERE.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, SHE WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE
STUFF YOU DID.
YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT IN DISTRICT 5.
SHE KNOW YOU COULD NOT HAVE DONE THINGS WITHOUT THE SUPPORT
AND THE VOTE OF ALL THE COUNCIL.
SO WE WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU.
I'LL YIELD ONE MINUTE OR TWO TO HER DAUGHTER.
THIS IS HER OLDEST DAUGHTER.
10:21:42AM >> BENISHA JACKSON.
THANK YOU ALL, CITY OF TAMPA, THE COUNCILMEN, AND ALSO TPD
FOR THE FLOWERS AND THE RESOLUTION, THE PLAQUE THAT WE ALL
RECEIVED.
MY MOM WOULD BE SO HONORED TO KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING
FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING.
WE JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU IN PERSON.
AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
10:22:03AM >> GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH ON HER BEHALF.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:22:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT UP, LANCE KANE.
DR. KANE.

YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:22:19AM >> LANCE KANE.
I'M A MEDICAL DOCTOR.
I HAVE A PRACTICE FOR THE LAST 19 YEARS AT 508 SOUTH HABANA
AVENUE, SUITE 150 ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
BACK IN 2015 IT FLOODED AND IT FLOODED AGAIN A FEW WEEKS
AGO.
THE FIRST TIME IT WAS AN EXPENSIVE ADVENTURE.
THIS TIME WAS A BIT MORE OF A DEVASTATING BLOW.
THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR FLOODED, INCLUDING FOUR OTHER
DOCTORS.
THE ELEVATORS STILL AREN'T WORKING.
THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS ARE ALSO SUFFERING DUE TO THE
HOSPITALITY OF SOME OF MY OTHER FRIENDS IN THE BUILDING,
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE MY URGENT PATIENTS IN THE AFTERNOON,
BUT THEY ARE LITERALLY GETTING THOUSANDS OF MISSED PATIENT
VISITS THAT WORRY ME, NOT ONLY FINANCIALLY IS IT
DEVASTATING, SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REBUILD THE
OFFICE AND IN LOST INCOME, BUT I WORRY ABOUT STAFF.
I KNOW ONE OF THE DOCTORS IS LEAVING FOR GOOD.
IT'S A RECURRING PROBLEM, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL
FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO AND THE HARD DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO
MAKE.
AS VOCIFEROUSLY AS I CAN, MY SUPPORT BEHIND ANY SORT OF
PROJECT THAT CAN AMELIORATE AND MINIMIZE THE RISKS OF

WALKING INTO MY OFFICE AND FEELING WATER LAPPING AROUND MY
ANKLES.
I KNOW A LOT OF MY PATIENTS ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE THEY SAY
MY HOUSE LOOKS JUST LIKE YOUR OFFICE.
HORRIBLE.
SO I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST BUSINESSES.
IT'S ALSO INDIVIDUALS IN THEIR HOMES.
I FEEL VERY GRATEFUL IN THAT REGARD.
THAT'S IT.
I HOPE WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO HELP WITH THE STORMWATER
DRAINAGE AND PUT MY SUPPORT BEHIND THAT.
THANK YOU ALL.
10:24:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHELLE -- YES, MA'AM.
FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH NAJAVA AND VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:24:34AM >> MICHELLE TURNER.
10:24:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
10:24:37AM >> I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF OVER 30 FAMILIES LOCATED IN A
NON-FLOOD ZONE IMPACTED BY CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF OUR
STORMWATER SYSTEM DURING HURRICANE MILTON.
THE DRAINAGE FAILURE FLOODED HOMES, DISPLACED FAMILIES AND
OVERWHELMED CONCORDIA PARK AND NEARBY STREETS IN BAYSHORE
BEAUTIFUL.
THIS IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FLOODING IN ZONE X, A ZONE
CONSIDERED LOW RISK FOR FLOODING WITH ONLY A .2 PERCENT

ANNUAL CHANCE OF OCCURRING.
AFTER MILTON WE SUBMITTED A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT TO THE CITY
OF TAMPA AND EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY REQUESTING URGENT ACTION.
OUR NEIGHBORS FEEL OVERLOOKED BECAUSE NO OTHER CITY
OFFICIALS HAVE VISITED THE SITE TO UNDERSTAND THE FULL
IMPACT OUTSIDE OF BILL CARLSON.
I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF THOSE FAMILIES MANY OF YOU
ARE DISPLACED AND UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY.
A FAMILY IS LIVING IN AN RV BESIDE THE HOME WITH THREE
FAMILY MEMBERS AND TWO DOGS.
ANOTHER RESIDENT SLEEPING IN THEIR OFFICE.
SEVERAL FAMILIES LIVING WITHIN A CONSTRUCTION ZONE BECAUSE
THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO RELOCATE.
NONE OF THE FAMILIES EXPECTED TO FLOOD NOR DO MANY HAVE
FLOOD INSURANCE.
THEY RELIED ON BY PURCHASING IN A NON-FLOOD ZONE AND
PROPERTY TAXES, THEY WOULD HAVE A FUNCTIONING INFRASTRUCTURE
SYSTEM TO PROTECT THEM.
THIS WAS NOT A ONE IN 1,000 YEAR EVENT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
STORM SURGE OF NEGATIVE FIVE FEET, MEANING BAY LEVELS LOWER
AND JUST UNDER A FOOT OF RAIN FOR THE ENTIRE HURRICANE YET
SOMEHOW BY 9 P.M. CONCORDIA PARK WAS INUNDATED WITH FIVE TO
SEVEN FEET OF WATER WHICH SPILLED INTO OUR STREETS AND HOMES
BY WAY OF FLASH FLOOD.
THIS WAS A FAILURE OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM, NOT A FREAK

OCCURRENCE.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS EXPERIENCED
DRAINAGE ISSUES.
SINCE 1970s, CITY HAS MANAGED LAND HERE FOR STORMWATER AND
SIGNIFICANT FLOODING EVENTS HAVE RECORDED IN 2000s, 2015
AND AUGUST 15th OF THIS YEAR AFTER AN HOUR-LONG RAINSTORM.
AUGUST FLOOD OCCURRED SAME DAY EXCAVATION BEGAN IN CONCORDIA
PARK.
HEAVY EQUIPMENT SUBMERGED ON-SITE FOR OVER A WEEK AND MAY
HAVE OBSTRUCTED A CULVERT.
RESIDENTS RAISED CONCERNS FOR FEAR THE NEXT STORM WOULD
FLOOD OUR HOMES.
ULTIMATELY DISMISSED AND REFERRED TO PARKS AND REC BY
STORMWATER.
MONTH AND A HALF LATER MILTON BROUGHT FLOODING 30 TIMES
WORSE.
WITHOUT ANY OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO SIFT
THROUGH GIS MAPS, PUBLIC RECORDS AND PROPERTY DOCUMENTS
OURSELVES AS NONENGINEERS.
WE SUSPECT SOURCES OF FAILURE TO INCLUDE STORMWATER CULVERTS
BROKEN OR CLOGGED, POORLY DESIGNED OPEN DRAIN LINES FROM THE
CROSSTOWN, EXCESSIVE RUNOFF AND EROSION FROM THE CROSSTOWN,
FAULTY RETENTION POND DESIGN AND LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND
POSSIBLY NONFUNCTIONING VALVES.
THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE ALL OF THE DRAINAGE POINTS ARE.

UNACCEPTABLE FOR RESIDENTS TO SUFFER PREVENTABLE FLOODING
WHILE BEARING REBUILDING COSTS.
COMMUNITY DESERVES ACCOUNTABILITY AND IMMEDIATE ACTION FROM
THE CITY.
WE ARE REQUESTING INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING STUDY TO IDENTIFY
ROOT CAUSES, ASSESS CULVERTS, DRAINS AND PUMPS FUNCTIONALITY
IN THE AREA.
IMMEDIATE SHORT-TERM ACTIONS INCLUDING MEASURING TO PREVENT
FLOODING IN THE NEXT STORM AND A COMMUNICATION PLAN FOR
RESIDENTS.
FINALLY, A LONG-TERM TRANSPARENT SOLUTION THAT INCLUDES A
COMPREHENSIVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, REGULAR
INSPECTIONS, MITIGATION STRATEGIES FOR ANY PROJECTS
INCLUDING CROSSTOWN EXPANSION WHICH THEY ARE ISSUING AN RFP
FOR ON NOVEMBER 13.
I IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE RECOGNIZE THE URGENCY OF THE ISSUES,
OTHERWISE WE ARE SITTING DUCKS WAITING FOR THE NEXT STORM.
10:27:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN YOU SUBMIT THOSE DOCUMENTS TO OUR
ATTORNEY SO WE CAN SEE THEM?
10:27:54AM >> YES.
10:27:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BRING THEM UP.
NEXT UP JOSEPH, VALERIE.
PAM.
IS JOSEPH HERE? WE BROUGHT UP EVERYBODY FROM THE SECOND
FLOOR, I BELIEVE.

SO WE GO UP TO MS. VALERIE BULLOCK.
YES, MA'AM.
PAM CANNELLA AND JAMES FLYNN.
10:28:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M VALERIE BULLOCK.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 39 ON THE AGENDA, THE CITY COUNCIL
RECONCILIATION COMMISSION.
I'M HOPING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY IN A STRATEGIC
MANNER WITH TARGETED AND MEASURABLE GOALS.
RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE WAS SUPPOSED TO MEET AGAIN AND
SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION IN FEBRUARY, BUT
BY THE TIME THAT THE MONEY AND EVERYTHING GOT TOGETHER, IT
LOOKED LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE THREE MONTHS NOW.
I'M HOPING THERE IS AN EXTENSION IN PLACE SO THAT THE
COMMISSION CAN HAVE THE FULL SIX MONTHS TO STUDY AND COME
BACK WITH GOOD OBJECTIVES.
ALSO, WE CAN MAKE THE PLAN FEEL EQUAL NOW.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE COMMISSION MEETS.
SOME THINGS WE CAN DO NOW.
TRAINING IS NEEDED IN EAST TAMPA.
NOT ONLY JOB TRAINING LIKE APPRENTICESHIP WITH THE CITY OF
TAMPA, WITH JOBS THAT GIVE PEOPLE A LIVABLE INCOME IN THE
WATER, WASTEWATER MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ALSO NEED
OTHER KINDS OF TRAINING ALSO AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR
THE COMMISSION TO MEET FOR THAT.

WE NEED TO GET ON THIS AND GET ON IT QUICK BECAUSE SOME
PEOPLE'S VERY LIVES DEPEND ON IT.
ANOTHER THING MINE DEALING WITH THE CITY, I'LL TALK ABOUT
THE CITY OF LAKELAND.
THAT'S WHERE I WORK AT.
WITH THE CITY, WHEN IT COMES TO SPENDING MONEY, THEY ARE
VERY, VERY TIGHT.
THE CITY OF LAKELAND STARTED THEIR PIPES PROGRAM WHEN THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE THEM MONEY FOR THAT.
NOW, WE DO PAY TAXES AND A TAX RATE HAVE WENT UP AND WE GOT
ALL THESE NEW HOUSES BEING BUILT.
MAYBE SOME OF THAT MONEY COULD HAVE WENT TO THE PIPES
PROGRAM.
THIS SITTING AND WAITING UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS BEFORE WE
DO SOMETHING ABOUT A KNOWN PROBLEM, THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY SO THAT WE COULD FIX THE PROBLEM
SO THAT THE CITIZENS DON'T SUFFER.
IT'S MANY THINGS WE CAN DO BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAVE A
FEASIBILITY STUDY.
WHAT OUGHT TO GO FIVE YEARS, WHAT OUGHT TO GO FOR THE NEXT
TEN YEARS.
MOVE THE MONEY TO THE TARGETED AREA.
THE CITY SHOULD NOT LET THE CITIZENS' PAIN BE PROLONGED
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE THE MONEY.
WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE IN SOME THINGS.

IT'S JUST LIKE IN MY HOUSE, IF I KNOW MY KIDS ONLY HAVE ONE
PACK OF MEAT WE HAVE TO GO A WHOLE WEEK, THAT MEANS THE
MONEY GO TO THE HAIRDRESSER, I NEED TO GO TO THE GROCERY
STORE WITH IT AND THAT'S HOW THE CITY NEED TO BECOME.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:31:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
PAM CANNELLA, JAMES FLYNN, MARY LOU BAILEY.
MA'AM, DID YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK TOO OR ARE YOU STANDING WITH
HER?
10:31:34AM >> SHE'S GOING TO PUT THE PICTURES UP.
I CAN'T DO BOTH.
10:31:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:37AM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
MY CONCERN IS THIS HOWARD FLOODING RELIEF PROJECT IS
UNSUBSTANTIATED.
IT'S A BIG WORD FOR ME.
AND MAY NOT BE THE SOLUTION TO THE SWANN AND PARKLANDS
FLOODING PROBLEM.
A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE IN A VERY SMALL, DENSE
NEIGHBORHOOD WILL HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
THESE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ARE GREATER THAN THE POSITIVE, AND AT
THE END OF SIX YEARS AND 65 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS, WE MAY OR
MAY NOT HAVE FLOODING ON SWANN AND PARKLAND.

BUT THIS IS WHAT WE DO KNOW.
THIS PROJECT WILL NOT BENEFIT FLOODING IN THESE OTHER AREAS
SUCH AS SOUTH OF GANDY, PALMA CEIA, KENNEDY, TOWN N'
COUNTRY, WEST TAMPA AND WESTSHORE AND MANHATTAN WHICH STILL
SUFFER FROM SUFFERING EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE
PROJECT.
ALL THESE OTHER AREAS WHERE FLOODING OCCURRED JUST A FEW
MONTHS AGO BEFORE THE HURRICANE.
A SOLUTION THAT WOULD BENEFIT ALL OF TAMPA WOULD BE TO
CLEAN, REPAIR, AND MAINTAIN OUR EXISTING DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
THE CITY OF TAMPA WEBSITE SAYS IT BEST.
TO KEEP STORMWATER PONDS AND DITCHES FUNCTIONING PROPERLY
REQUIRE MONTHLY MAINTENANCE, WHICH INCLUDES GRASS CUTTING,
DREDGING, REMOVAL OF ILLEGAL DUMPING AND TRASH PICKUP.
MAINTENANCE IS A KEY PART NEEDED TO HELP KEEP THE CITY ABOVE
WATER.
YET MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS THIS MAINTENANCE HAS NOT BEEN
DONE.
THE FIRST PICTURE SHOWS 2023 WHERE THE DITCH WAS CLEANED
PROPERLY FOR PROPER STORMWATER FLOW.
THE SECOND PICTURE IS THE SAME DITCH NOW TAKEN IN 2024.
IT SHOWS LACK OF MAINTENANCE WITH OVERGROWTH OF VEGETATION
AND THE ONLY DRAINAGE PIPE FROM THE RETENTION POND COVERED
OVER.
YOU'LL SEE HOW IT'S COVERED OVER.

AFTER SOME CONVINCING TO THE CITY, THE PIPE WAS CLEANED AWAY
OF DEBRIS.
AND INSIDE THE PIPE WAS A DORITO BAG, SEVERAL PLASTIC
BOTTLES, A SIX-INCH GARDEN EDGING AND A RUBBER GARDEN HOSE,
NOT TO MENTION PAPER ITEMS, GRASS CLIPPINGS AND SLUDGE.
WITHOUT MAINTENANCE TO OUR RETENTION PONDS AND DITCHES, WE
FLOOD.
WE NOW HAVE A CITY CONTRACTED LANDSCAPER WHO COMES OUT ONCE
A MONTH AND ONLY MOWS AND BLOWS THE GRASS CLIPPINGS AND THE
LEAFS AND THEY END UP IN THE PONDS AND RETENTION DITCHES --
RETENTION PONDS AND DITCHES.
THEY DO NOT PICK UP TRASH, DEBRIS, OR OVERGROWTH IN THE
DITCHES OR THE RETENTION POND.
ANOTHER SOURCE OF FLOODING COMES FROM ALLEYS THAT HAVE BEEN
-- THAT HAVE YEARS OF PATCHING LAYERED TO ALTER THE FLOW OF
STORMWATER DRAINAGE RIGHT INTO OUR BACKYARDS.
CITY ENGINEERS TOLD ME THEY NEED GRADING AND RESURFACING.
CITY TOLD ME NO MONEY.
THEN FLOODING BY OVERDEVELOPING, A TOPIC THAT WE HAVE YET TO
BE ADDRESSED.
I THANK YOU AND ALL THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN BEFORE THE
HURRICANE.
10:34:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
IF WE COULD REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES FLYNN, THEN MARY LOU BAILEY.
WHICH IS YOU AND ALISON DATE.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:35:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M JAMES FLYNN.
I'M MARRIED TO DR. LINDA FLYNN FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS HAS
OWNED AN OFFICE AT 2605 WEST SWANN AVENUE CALLED SOUTH TAMPA
DERMATOLOGY.
IT'S 2,000 SQUARE FEET.
16,000-SQUARE-FOOT OFFICE BUILDING.
DENTAL OFFICE IN THERE.
THERE IS A LAB, AND THERE ARE TWO OTHER PRIMARY CARE
PROVIDERS.
JUST IN OUR 2,000-SQUARE-FOOT OFFICE OVER THE PAST STORM,
THREE WEEKS, 940 PATIENTS HAD TO HAVE THEIR APPOINTMENTS
CANCELED.
OUT OF THAT, ABOUT 230 BIOPSIES WERE SCHEDULED, RESULTING IN
GENERALLY 86 SURGERIES.
ADDITIONALLY, 21 WE DON'T CATCH IN TIME AND ARE MORE
ADVANCED AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO MOFFITT OR SOMEPLACE ELSE
FOR MORE EXTENSIVE SURGERY.
SO NOT JUST THE PARKLAND ESTATES ARE AFFECTED.
THE PATIENTS WITH THE CANCELED APPOINTMENTS RANGE FROM SEVEN

WEEKS TO 94 YEARS OLD.
OBVIOUSLY, BEING A MEDICAL OFFICE, OUR DEMOGRAPHICS SKEW
OLDER THAN, SAY, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES ON FRANKLIN -- I
MEAN, ON HOWARD.
IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THOSE NUMBERS AND MULTIPLY THEM BY
SEVEN, THAT'S WHAT OUR BUILDING MISSED OUT ON, AND WE'RE NOT
EVEN IN DR. LANCE CAIN'S BUILDING.
HE IS ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY ALSO GOT PUMPED PRETTY
GOOD.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS WHEN THE GULF OF MEXICO
DECIDES TO COME INTO OUR WAITING ROOM.
THIS IS SUMMER SHOWERS, STORM SHOWERS, AND IN THIS CASE, AN
INTENSE RAIN.
BUT WE HAVE SEEN FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS ON SWANN IN THE
SUMMERTIME, PEOPLE LOSE CARS FROM A SIMPLE AFTERNOON SHOWER,
NOT JUST ONE OR TWO CARS.
PROBABLY 40, 50 A SUMMER.
GET WIPED OUT JUST NEAR De LEON AND SWANN.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS,
BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN FLOODED TWICE.
A COUPLE OF TIMES DOWN TO THE STUDS WHERE WE HAD TO REBUILD.
IF ANYTHING CAN BE DONE, LET'S GET ON WITH IT.
LET'S NOT SLOW WALK THIS.
IT'S AFFECTING A LOT OF PEOPLE AND NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO

LIVE AROUND THERE, BUT THE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY WHO COME TO
THE OFFICES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:37:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
MARY LOU BAILEY.
ALISON DATE.
MATTHEW BATTAGLIA.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:38:09AM >> MARY LOU BAILEY.
912 SOUTH OREGON AVENUE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH HOWARD
FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH PAM CANNELLA'S POINT THAT WE NEED
MORE MAINTENANCE.
A LOT OF TIMES IN BUSINESSES AND IN GOVERNMENTS IT'S NOT
SEXY TO FUND MAINTENANCE.
SO MONEY GOES TO NEW CAPITAL PROJECTS AND SOMEHOW WE FIND
IT, BUT WE NEED A DELIBERATE APPROACH TO FIND THE MONEY TO
DO THE RIGHT KINDS OF MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF ALL THESE
WATER PROBLEMS.
NEEDS LIKE A PROGRAM MANAGER AND A DEDICATED FUND AND RUN IT
LIKE A CAPITAL PROJECT, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF TRY TO
DO ON THE SIDE WHEN WE HAVE MONEY TO DO IT.
FIRST POINT I WANTED TO MAKE.
SECOND, I WOULD LIKE THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT

TO GO FORWARD.
IT'S BEEN STUDIED FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE STAGE GATES, REAL STAGE
GATES WITH CRITERIA AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE ENGINEERS
THERE.
I KNOW PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT SOME OF THE ROUTES AND OTHER
CHOICES, ET CETERA.
BUT WE'RE JUST KIND OF PIVOTING AROUND.
I WANTED TO GO FORWARD.
GET ENGINEERING STARTED BUT HAVE REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
I KNOW VICK'S LETTER SAYS THERE IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT.
SOMETIMES I'VE BEEN TO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND IT'S JUST
THEM PRESENTING OUT, REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH REAL
ENGINEERING EXPERTISE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ROUTE SHOULD BE
AND HOW TO MITIGATE THE SHORT-TERM DISRUPTION TO THE
BUSINESSES AND THE MANY OF US WHO COME AND GO, TAKING OUR
KIDS TO SCHOOL AND GETTING GROCERIES AND TRYING TO LIVE.
A LOT OF TIMES THE CITY PROJECTS WILL CLOSE DOWN A ROADWAY
OR LANES OF A ROADWAY FOR BLOCKS AND BLOCKS AND BLOCKS
BEFORE THERE IS ANY CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.
THIS IS A VERY BUSY AREA.
ALSO I KNOW THEY WILL BE TAKING OUT TREES.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT, BUT LIKE THE CITY HAS DONE

WITH THE HYDE PARK GROUNDWATER DIVERSION PROJECT, WHICH I'M
VERY FAMILIAR WITH, THEY ARE REPLACING OUR TREES.
AND WE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM WHAT KIND OF TREES GO IN,
HIGH-QUALITY TREES THAT ONE DAY WILL PROVIDE CANOPY.
THERE WILL BE A SHORT-TERM LOSS OF CANOPY.
I'M A TREE LOVER.
I HATE THAT BUT A NECESSARY THING.
I COME TO YOU WITH A PRACTICAL HAT ON SAYING LET'S GO
FORWARD, GET THE ENGINEERING STARTED.
I'M OKAY IF IT IS A DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT BUT HAS TO BE
STAGE GATES AND CRITERIA WHERE THEY DON'T GET MONEY, DON'T
GET TO GO FORWARD UNLESS THERE'S REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH
CITIZENS AND THE ENGINEERS AT THE TABLE DOING PRACTICAL
SOLUTIONS FOR IT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:40:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALISON DATE.
MATTHEW BATTAGLIA.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:40:39AM >> ALISON DATE.
IN MARCH THIS YEAR I VISITED THE PARKLAND ESTATES, ONE OF
THE PROPOSED ROUTES FOR STORMWATER PIPES.
I HELPED THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP LOCATE AND MEASURE THE LIVE
OAKS WHICH IS THE DOMINANT SPECIES ALONG THESE STREETS.

A 25-YEAR-OLD RESIDENT SURVEYED THE CANOPY IN THE AREA AND
REACHED THESE CONCLUSIONS.
IF THE ROUTES SELECTED FOR THE PROJECT GOES THROUGH OUR
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WILL HAVE A DEVASTATING IMPACT
ON OUR TREES.
THE INSTALLATION OF LARGE BOX CULVERTS SPECIFIED IN THE
PROJECT REQUIRE CURB TO CURB DEMOLITION WITH TRENCHES UP TO
20 FEET DEEP AND 10 FEET WIDE.
THAT WOULD DECIMATE OUR TREE POPULATION.
IMMATURE REPLACEMENT TREES WILL TAKE MANY DECADES TO ACHIEVE
THE CANOPY WE HAVE NOW.
IN SOME AREAS, SUCH AS BRISTOL AVENUE, THE MEDIAN WITH A
HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD HISTORIC WELL AND OVER A DOZEN MATURE SHADE
TREES WILL BE OBLITERATED.
THE LOSS WOULD BE PERMANENT SINCE ONLY SHRUBS COULD BE
REPLANTED IN THE MEDIANS.
EVEN TREES IN HOMEOWNERS' GRANT YARDS COULD BE KILLED SLOWLY
BY THE PROJECT DUE TO ROOT DAMAGE.
LIVE OAKS IN PARTICULAR WHICH HAPPEN TO BE 82% OF THE TREES
ALONG ONE OF THE PROPOSED ROUTES HAVE A SHALLOW,
WIDE-RANGING ROOT SYSTEM THAT EXTENDS FAR BEYOND THE TIP OF
THE LONGEST BRANCH KNOWN AS THE DRIP LINE.
THE POTENTIAL LOSS TO THE TREES IS INCALCULABLE.
SO THESE TREES ALSO, OF COURSE, REMOVE A LOT OF WATER WHICH
IS WHAT WE NEED WITH THEIR ROOT SYSTEM AND PUTTING THESE

LARGE PIPES ON SUCH SMALL STREETS WILL NOT ONLY CREATE
ACCESS DIFFICULTY FOR RESIDENTS AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE
INTEGRITY OF THE OLDER WOODEN HOUSES, BUT PUTTING IN THE
PIPES WILL DESTROY THE ROOTS OF THE GRAND LIVE OAKS IN THESE
STREETS.
DESPITE THE LARGE DECLINE IN TAMPA'S CANOPY NOTED IN THE
LAST IS I SURVEY, REMOVAL OF THE GRAND OAKS HAS CONTINUED TO
CAUSE LOSSES OF THE TREES.
NOW WITH THE LARGE NUMBER OF TREES DECIMATED IN THE LAST
MONTH STORMS MAKING, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE LIVE OAKS IN
THE AREA ARE PRESERVED.
FOR ALL THESE REASONS AND MORE, I AM REQUESTING THAT OTHER
LESS DESTRUCTIVE AND MORE DIRECT ROUTES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED
FOR THESE PIPES.
ONE OF THE AUTHORS OF THE CITY TREE SURVEY RECENTLY SAID, IN
MY HUMBLE OPINION, ANY LARGE OAK THAT SURVIVED THE STORM
SHOULD BE GIVEN AN AWARD AND PROTECTED IN PERPETUITY.
FIND AN ALTERNATE ROUTE FOR THE STORMWATER PIPES.
PLEASE SAVE THE LIVE OAKS IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
THANK YOU.
10:43:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MATTHEW BATTAGLIA IS NEXT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MATTHEW BATTAGLIA.
10:43:51AM >> MATTHEW BATTAGLIA.
2504 WEST PARKLAND BOULEVARD.
MOVED THERE A FEW YEARS AGO TO GROW MY FAMILY AND MAKE
LIFELONG MEMORIES.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
I KNOW YOU RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM THEM.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD THAT THEY DO NOT SPEAK
FOR EVERYONE IN THE GROUP.
AFTER MY HOUSE, AMONG MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WITH ME TODAY
WERE FLOODED, NOBODY FROM THE GROUP CAME TO CHECK ON US OR
ASK OUR INPUT.
VERY CLEAR, THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE ENTIRE GROUP AS A
WHOLE.
I'M IN FAVOR OF STARTING SOUTH HOWARD RELIEF -- FLOOD RELIEF
PROJECT IMMEDIATELY.
IT IS NOT THE FACT THAT I RUN TWO BUSINESSES OUT OF MY HOME
AND INCOME HAS BEEN IMPACTED THERE.
NOT THE FACT THAT MY WIFE RUNS A BUSINESS OUT OF OUR HOME.
IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT MY FLOOR IS GETTING REDONE AS WE
SPEAK AND MY LIFE IS DEALING WITH A NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS
AND LOUD NOISES AND TWO CHILDREN BEING IMPACTED BY THAT
QUITE A BIT.
THAT IS A SMALL DEAL THING IN THE REAL GRAND SCHEME.
I'M LUCKY TO HAVE MY SECOND DAUGHTER BECAUSE SHE WAS BORN ON

JUNE 18 THIS YEAR.
EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT WENT BY WE HAD A RAINSTORM, WATER
WOULD GO ANYWHERE FROM MY GARAGE AND FRONT STEPS OR HALFWAY
UP MY DRIVEWAY.
FIVE CARS FLOODED OUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE THAT I WAS HOME
FOR THIS SUMMER.
THIS IS NOT A HURRICANE MILTON THING.
NOT A HURRICANE HELENE THING.
THIS IS AN EVERYDAY THING FOR US AS FLORIDA NATIVES.
IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT WE HAVE THAT MUCH WATER AT OUR
HOUSE.
WE ARE NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE.
THIS STUFF IS COMING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THANK GOD DIDN'T RAIN ON JUNE 18 OR ELSE I WOULDN'T HAVE
GOTTEN TO THE HOSPITAL.
QUITE SIMPLE.
THE LADY BEFORE ME, I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR TREES, I CARE
ABOUT A MEDICAL EVENT IMPACTING ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS AND NOT
GETTING THE ATTENTION THEY NEED.
IF THERE IS A FIRE, GOD FORBID, NO EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN
GET DOWN OUR STREET.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT, THE TREES ARE THE LITTLE DEAL THING.
THE LIVES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY COMMUNITY IS THE THING I

CARE ABOUT, NOT THE TREES.
THE LAST THING I'LL KIND OF REALLY SAY HERE, THERE'S NO
REASON THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SIX YEARS OR FIVE YEARS.
I HEARD A LOT OF STUFF.
IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, YOU SOLVE IT.
IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
THERE HAS TO BE A SOLUTION IN PLACE BEFORE NEXT SUMMER.
EVERY DOLLAR I'M SPENDING OUT OF POCKET BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
FLOOD INSURANCE BECAUSE I'M IN FLOOD ZONE X IS GOING TO BE
FOR NAUGHT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUE -- OR A SOLUTION IN
PLACE AND THIS THING RESOLVED BY NEXT SUMMER.
LASTLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
IN OUR LAST E-MAIL THREAD, YOU HAD SAID THERE'S NO PROOF OF
CATEGORY 3 SEWAGE WATER IN -- THAT FLOODED OUT OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO BRING MY WIFE'S TOTALED CAR OR PAIR OF
MY DAUGHTER'S SCHOOL SHOES HERE BUT THE FESTERING WHO KNOWS
WHAT THAT WAS GROWING IN THE ITEMS KIND OF PREVENTED ME FROM
BRINGING THEM HERE TODAY.
I GUARANTEE IF NOTHING GETS DONE, COME ON DOWN AND TAKE A
SWIM IN MY FRONT YARD BECAUSE IT WILL BE THERE AGAIN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:46:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PRIANKA GERRISH.

TINA ADAMS.
MILA GERRISH.
10:46:59AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS PRIANKA GERRISH.
I LIVE AT 2502 WEST PARKLAND BOULEVARD.
I AM IN FLOOD ZONE X.
MY HOME FLOODED.
OUR ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR WAS TOUCHED.
UNTIL YOU FLOODED AND HAVE WATER TOUCH EVERYTHING THAT YOU
OWN, EVERYTHING THAT YOU LOVE, EVERYTHING THAT YOU BUILT,
EVERYTHING THAT YOU WORKED SO HARD FOR, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT
TO EXPLAIN THE PRESSING URGENCY THAT WE HAVE TO WANT TO FIX
THIS.
I AM PRO STARTING THE SOUTH HOWARD RELIEF FLOOD PROJECT.
I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF PARKLAND ESTATES CIVICS CLUB AND THEY
DO NOT REPRESENT MY OPINION.
WE HAVE MANY NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE BEEN IN A SIMILAR SITUATION,
AND I WANTED TO PRESENT A LITTLE PIECE THAT THE NEWS CAME
AND DID FOR US.
HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.
10:47:51AM >> RECORDING:
DAVID ADAMS IS CLEANING UP AFTER HURRICANE
MILTON FLOODED HIS HOME IN PARKLAND ESTATES IN TAMPA.
HIS POSSESSIONS ON THE CURB, HIS NEIGHBORS SHARE A SIMILAR
STORY.
10:48:04AM >> THE FEAR OF DOING ALL THIS AND PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER

AND HAVING IT FLOOD NEXT HURRICANE SEASON OR EVEN IN
RAINSTORMS WE HAVE FLOODING, IT'S REALLY UNEASY AND VERY
EMOTIONAL CHALLENGING.
10:48:15AM >> THE FAMILY LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.
BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
TOOK CELL PHONE VIDEOS OF WATER IN THE STREET AND INTO THEIR
HOME DURING MILTON.
NOW FORCED TO START OVER.
10:48:27AM >> BASE BOARDS RIPPED UP, DRYWALL, LOST WEDDING PHOTOS, LOTS
OF PERSONAL ITEMS, GARAGE AND FIRST FLOOR.
10:48:35AM >> NEIGHBORS SAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODED NUMEROUS TIMES IN
THE PAST AND FLOODING IS AN ISSUE RELATED TO THE CITY'S
STORMWATER SYSTEM.
ADAMS CREATED A WEBSITE CALLED STOP FLOODING IN PARKLAND
ESTATES.
10:48:46AM >> IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF THE WATER,
WHICH HAS BEEN STUDYING FOR NINE YEARS, THESE HOUSES WILL
CONTINUE TO FLOOD.
10:48:53AM >> MAP ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S WEBSITE SHOWS PLANNING FOR THE
SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
IT INVOLVES DESIGNING AND BUILDING A MAJOR STORMWATER
CONVEYANCE SYSTEM TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE AND REDUCE FLOODING
ALONG SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS,
INCLUDING PARKLAND ESTATES.
A CITY SPOKESPERSON SAYS THE PROJECT IS ON PAUSE AFTER

PUSH-BACK FROM BUSINESS OWNERS WORRIED ABOUT CONSTRUCTION.
THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS EXPECTED TO DISCUSS THE TOPIC ON
NOVEMBER 7.
10:49:20AM >> I WOULD NOT WISH THIS ON MY WORST ENEMY.
I THINK THAT THE CITY DOES NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
MANY OF US, ALL OF US ARE IN FLOOD ZONE X, EVACUATION ZONE
C.
10:49:29AM >> SIGNS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENCOURAGE SUPPORT FOR THE
PROJECT.
NEIGHBORS HAD THEIR HOMES DESTROYED IN JUST HOURS.
AND IF THEY CLEAN UP, THEY ARE WORRIED ANOTHER STORM MAY
THREATEN THEIR HOUSES ONCE AGAIN.
ABC ACTION NEWS.
10:49:44AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
I'M ALSO A TREE LOVER, GARDENER, I LOVE SPENDING TIME
OUTSIDE.
I'M PART OF THE TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM.
I'VE BEEN NURTURING A TREE THAT'S BEEN KNOCKED DOWN TWICE.
OUR TREES ARE GOING TO GET WATERLOGGED FROM A SIMPLE
RAINFALL.
ANY RAIN SHOWER OVER THE SUMMER IS GOING TO START FLOODING
AND FLOODING AND FLOODING.
THEY GET WATERLOGGED, ROTTED, THEY FALL.
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
10:50:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT UP WE HAVE TINA ADAMS, MILA GERRISH AND ELLA GERRISH.
I COULDN'T HEAR BECAUSE OF THE CLAPPING.
IF WE COULD REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING.
TINA ADAMS, MILA, ELLA.
10:50:25AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS TINA ADAMS.
I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL THAT HAVE COME OUT AND
VISITED MY HOME AND OTHER HOMES AND BEEN SO NICE.
I AM A MEMBER OF PECC, BUT THIS WILL BE MY LAST YEAR.
I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD.
MY HUSBAND HAS BEEN PRESIDENT NUMEROUS TIMES.
THEY NO LONGER REPRESENT MY INTERESTS, THE BEST INTERESTS OF
MY HOME, AND I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT ANYMORE.
I SUPPORT THE DESIGN-BUILD PROCESS.
I HAVE FAITH AND I TRUST THAT ENGINEERS AND THE
PROFESSIONALS THAT YOU ALL HAVE EMPLOYED AND HIRED TO LOOK
INTO THIS FOR NINE YEARS AND TO RESEARCH THIS AND TO DEVELOP
THE BEST PLAN POSSIBLE.
THEY HAVE STUDIED THIS FOR OVER TEN YEARS.
THEY HAVE DONE THESE JOBS BEFORE.
THIS IS NO TIME FOR AMATEUR HOUR.
WE NEED WORK.
WE NEED PROFESSIONALS, WE NEED KNOWLEDGE.
AND WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

PLEASE LET THE PROFESSIONALS DO WHAT THEY WERE TRAINED TO
DO.
STOP THE NEEDLESS FLOODING BECAUSE OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM IS
OVERBURDENED, INADEQUATE AND OUTDATED.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE SOME THINGS I DON'T
UNDERSTAND.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS OR NOT.
WHY IS A GROUP OF APPROXIMATELY 26 BUSINESSES, THE SOHO
BUSINESS ALLIANCE, ENTITLED TO YOUR HELP AND PROTECTION WHEN
HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES AND SMALL BUSINESSES WHO ARE UNDERGOING
DEVASTATING LOSSES, PHYSICIANS' OFFICES, WORKOUT GYMS, NAIL
SALONS, HAIR SALONS, DEVASTATING LOSSES.
THOSE 26 BUSINESSES WON'T BE INCONVENIENCED?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
WHY HAS THIS PROBLEM BEEN STUDIED FOR TEN YEARS?
AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THERE.
THE PROFESSIONALS HAVE SAID, THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM, THIS IS HOW WE SOLVE IT.
WHY AREN'T WE DOING IT?
ALL THAT'S NEEDED IS TO START DIGGING.
WHY AREN'T WE DIGGING?
WHY AREN'T WE DOING THIS?
WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS?
WHY ISN'T THIS PROJECT ALREADY STARTED?
YOU GUYS HAVE THE POWER AND THE MEANS TO DO THIS.

PLEASE, VOTE FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
MAKE THIS AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT.
IT MAY NOT BE AN EMERGENCY TO THE PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES THAT
DIDN'T FLOOD, BUT IT IS TO THE REST OF US.
IT IS.
IT IS TO THE SCHOOL ON SWANN AVENUE, TO THE CHURCH ON SWANN
AVENUE.
THE LOADS OF SMALL BUSINESSES, THE PHYSICIANS ON SWANN
AVENUE, THE FAMILIES AND THE PEOPLE IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND
THE PEOPLE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:53:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:53:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MILA GERRISH, ELLA GERRISH, DAVID ADAMS.
YES, MA'AM.
GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:53:44AM >> MY NAME IS MILA GERRISH.
I'M 13 YEARS OLD AND I GO TO WILSON MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I ALSO LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
MY GOAL TODAY IS TO SEE IF THE GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY CARES.
MY FAMILY AND I DECIDED TO STAY HOME FOR HURRICANE MILTON
BECAUSE WE WEREN'T IN A FLOOD ZONE, OR SO WE THOUGHT.
AT AROUND 9 P.M. THE WATER LEVELS WERE RISING RAPIDLY AND I
WATCHED AS MY PARENTS PANICKED AND HAD TO MAKE QUICK
DECISIONS.

WHEN THE WATER REACHED OUR HOME, WE WERE ALL ON OUR HANDS
AND KNEES WITH TOWELS.
OUR ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR FLOODED.
CLEANING UP IS GOING TO BE A LONG, STRESSFUL ROAD.
IMAGINE IT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME IT RAINS.
OUR STORMWATER PIPES DON'T WORK.
WE NEED THE CITY TO FIX THIS.
OUR DREAM HOME WE BUILT TWO YEARS AGO IS NOW A MESS.
I ASK THAT THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH THE SOUTH HOWARD
FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT TO SAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
LASTLY, PECC DOES NOT REPRESENT ME.
10:54:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
ALL RIGHT.
I ALSO HAVE A 13-YEAR-OLD NAMED MILA AT HOME, TOO.
GOOD TO SEE ANOTHER MILA.
ELLA GERRISH, DAVID ADAMS, AND PATRICK CIMINO.
10:55:00AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS ELLA GERRISH.
I'M 14 AND GO TO PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
ON OCTOBER 9, HURRICANE MILTON ATTACKED THE CITY OF TAMPA
AND DESTROYED MY FAMILY'S PRIDE AND POSSESSION, OUR HOME.
THE RESOURCES I HAD MY WHOLE LIFE RIPPED OUT OF MY HANDS.
SEEING MY PARENTS NOT BEING ABLE TO PROTECT ME AND MY
SIBLINGS FROM THE OUTCOME OF THE STORM WORRIED ME.

I STARTED TO THINK IF I'M NOT SAFE NOW IN MY OWN HOME, WHAT
WILL BECOME OF ME AND MY FAMILY THE NEXT TIME AN EVENT
OCCURS.
REGULAR RAINSTORMS POSE A THREAT TO OUR SAFETY.
OVER 15 YEARS, CITY OF TAMPA HAS NOT ADDRESSED THE PROBLEM.
IT MAY NOT BE MY FAMILY'S CONTROL BUT IT IS 100% WITHIN THE
CITY'S CONTROL.
SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT IS THE SOLUTION.
I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE LET THE ENGINEERS DO THEIR JOBS.
TRAGIC EVENTS LIKE THIS PUT MULTIPLE THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE
FOR ME.
I DON'T WISH TO BE AFRAID EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
PLEASE, HELP US DO THE RIGHT THING.
THANK YOU.
10:55:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
DAVID ADAMS, PATRICK CIMINO, JOHN SIMON.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:56:05AM >> DAVID ADAMS.
I HAVE A VIDEO TO PLAY.
10:56:10AM >> FOUNTAIN BOULEVARD AND PARKLAND ESTATES.
TOWN HOUSE IN PALMA CEIA PINES THAT FLOODED AND A STORAGE
UNIT IN PALMA CEIA PINES THAT FLOODED.
I HAVE THREE VERY GOOD REASONS TO BE ANGRY AT THE CITY AND

THE CITY COUNCIL BUT I'M A LAWYER BY TRADE AND I DON'T WIN
MY CASES WITH ANGER.
I WIN MY CASES WITH EVIDENCE.
I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT I CAN IN THE NEXT TWO MINUTES.
THIS IS THE DEVASTATION OF THE FLOODING IN HURRICANE MILTON.
IT IS ONE THING TO SEE THE WATER OUTSIDE BUT THIS IS WHAT IT
LOOKED LIKE INSIDE OUR HOMES.
AND THIS IS THE AFTERMATH.
PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE AT THE CURB.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER OF DISPOSING OF ALL THE WASTE
SHOULD BE OBVIOUS.
FINANCIAL DISASTER EQUALLY COMPELLING.
NOT AWARE OF ANYBODY AT THE CITY ESTIMATING THE COST BUT
EASILY IN THE MILLIONS.
146 HOMES IN PALMA CEIA PINES WERE FLOODED WITH
APPROXIMATELY 18 INCHES OF SEWAGE WATER INSIDE THEM.
41 HOMES AND ONE CHURCH FLOODED IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
56 BUSINESSES, MOST OF WHICH REMAIN CLOSED TODAY FLOODED IN
PALMA CEIA PINES.
ABOUT A THIRD OF THOSE ARE DOCTOR OFFICES WHICH HAD TO
CANCEL HUNDREDS OF APPOINTMENTS.
THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME EITHER OF THESE AREAS FLOODED.
2015 WITH THE FIRST FLOOD.
IT WAS WELL COVERED BY THE MEDIA.
10:57:23AM >> A FEW HOURS AGO, THIS INTERSECTION WAS FILLED WITH WATER.

BASICALLY UP TO JUST ABOUT AS HIGH ABOUT MY KNEE, LITTLE
HIGHER THAN THAT.
10:57:33AM >> THAT CLIP WAS FILMED AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE MY TOWN
HOUSE IS LOCATED.
I HAD NINE INCHES OF WATER.
SINCE 2015, THE CITY HAS BEEN STUDYING THE PROBLEM BUT TEN
YEARS LATER YOU STILL HAVE TAKEN NO ACTION.
ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THINKS YOU HAVE TIME TO CONTINUE
DELIBERATING, LET ME SHOW YOU A FEW MORE PHOTOS.
THIS IS SEPTEMBER 4 IN PALMA CEIA PINES.
NO HURRICANE OR EVEN A TROPICAL DEPRESSION.
IT WAS JUST A TYPICAL WEDNESDAY SUMMER STORM.
I HAD WATER IN MY GARAGE.
SAME GOES IN PARKLAND ESTATES WHERE SUMMER RAINS MADE THE
STREETS IMPASSABLE TEN TIMES BETWEEN JUNE AND SEPTEMBER.
I KNOW THERE ARE BUSINESSES ON SOUTH HOWARD THAT DO NOT WANT
THEIR FOOT TRAFFIC REDUCED.
I UNDERSTAND.
BUT THOSE 26 BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING AT REDUCED TRAFFIC FOR
ROUGHLY SIX WEEKS.
WHAT ABOUT THE 56 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED FOR FOUR
WEEKS NOW WITH ZERO FOOT TRAFFIC AND THOUSANDS THEY ARE
HAVING TO SPEND TO REBUILD?
WHY ARE THE INTERESTS OF 26 BUSINESSES ON HOWARD MORE
IMPORTANT THAN THE INTEREST OF 56 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NOW

FLOODED TWICE?
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN FUNDED SINCE 2022.
YOU'VE RECEIVED 31 QUARTERLY REPORTS FROM THE ENGINEERING
DEPARTMENT.
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR FURTHER DELAY.
YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.
THE CITY ENGINEERS HAVE SPENT YEARS COMING UP WITH THE MOST
COST-EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WAY TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE FLOODED THEIR HOMES AND BUSINESSES WANT
YOU TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN VICTIMS OF FLOODING DON'T WANT YOU
TO TAKE ACTION.
THE RAINS START AGAIN IN APRIL.
THERE WILL BE MORE FLOODING.
IT IS INEVITABLE.
THE ONLY QUESTION IS, HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOU ALLOW THROUGH
YOUR INACTION OUR HOMES AND OUR BUSINESSES TO FLOOD BEFORE
YOU FIX THE PROBLEM?
THE NUMBER THERE SHOULD BE ZERO.
PLEASE, APPROVE THE KIMMINS CONTRACT AND MOVE FORWARD
IMMEDIATELY.
10:59:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:14AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME --
[ APPLAUSE ]

10:59:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PATRICK CIMINO, JOHN SIMON.
HOPE I READ THAT CORRECTLY.
MATT RADECK.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:59:26AM >> MY NAME IS PATRICK CIMINO.
CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
LAND USE COMMITTEE.
I'M HERE TO APPEAL TO YOU ALL TO PLEASE HOLD MOBILITY IN THE
CITY ACCOUNTABLE FOR INFORMATION THEY ARE PROVIDING ABOUT
THE HOWARD RELIEF PROJECT.
THESE ARE HORRIBLE STORIES.
MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN FLOODED, TOO, IN HYDE PARK.
WE'VE HAD UNPRECEDENTED RAIN.
SOME OF IT IS CHRONIC, SOME OF IT NOT.
HOWEVER, THE 25-YEAR-OLD PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE, THEY HAVE
NOT CLEARLY STATED A LOT OF VERY IMPORTANT FACTS.
ONE BEING THEY ARE FUNNELING WATER FOR A HUGE AREA WEST OF
MacDILL NORTH TO KENNEDY OVER TO THE SELMON INTO HOWARD
AND INCLUDING THE SELMON AND THAT WILL END UP AT HOWARD AND
BAYSHORE.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE KING TIDE?
WHAT HAPPENS WITH STORM SURGE?
THAT WATER WILL BACK UP INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN BAYSHORE
GARDENS.
SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE DONE, BUT LET'S NOT MAKE THE

MEDICINE WORSE THAN THE DISEASE.
ANOTHER ISSUE -- AND I'LL POINT TO A PROJECT THAT'S 50 YEARS
OLD IN FOREST HILLS, FLOODING 50 YEARS AGO.
THEY PUT INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD AREA THAT
HAS NOW FLOODED CHRONICALLY FOR YEARS AND HORRIBLY FLOODED
DURING MILTON.
AGAIN, CAN'T MAKE THE MEDICINE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN
FORTHCOMING, MOBILITY AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE NOT BEEN
FORTHCOMING.
OTHER WATER MANAGEMENT WE NEED TO KNOW, TWO PROJECTS WITH
ELEVATOR SHAFTS.
THEY HAD TO PUMP WATER FOR SIX MONTHS DOWN HOWARD AND
DE SOTO IN FRONT OF NEIGHBORS' HOUSES.
THOSE ARE LITTLE TINY PROJECTS.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT MASSIVE WATER INTRUSION ALONG HOWARD.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH WATER?
WE JUST WANT ANSWERS.
THAT WILL GO INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
YEAH, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TODAY BUT IT MAY WELL BE A PROBLEM.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT HISTORIC ASSETS.
BERN'S, BERN'S CELLAR, BAYSHORE ROYAL, BRISTOL.
WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY FIRM REASSURANCES ABOUT ANY OF THOSE.
WORRIED ABOUT DETOURING.
NO SPECIFICS ABOUT THAT.

FINALLY, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.
WE'RE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
IF THE PRECEDENT OF FINANCIAL -- THIS IS A NO-BID CONTRACT.
IF THE PRECEDENT FOR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT IS HANNA, THIS HAS
70 PLUS WHATEVER MILLION DOLLARS, YOU BETTER BUDGET OVER
$200 MILLION BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH RAN OVER AT HANNA.
WE NEED GOOD STEWARDSHIP.
WE NEED SOLUTIONS, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS.
THEY CANNOT CAUSE NEGATIVE IMPACTS DOWN STREAM TO OTHER
PEOPLE AND WE'RE NOT CONVINCED.
ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT FROM MOBILITY AND THE CITY AND THE
ENGINEER.
WE'VE NOT GOTTEN IT.
EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A 25-YEAR-OLD PROJECT.
THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF TIME BUT NOT A LOT OF INFORMATION
LATELY.
SO I THANK YOU.
I BEG YOU TO BE SCRUTINIZING FOR US.
11:02:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
JOHN SIMON.
MATT RADECK AND YVONNE FERRELLI.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:02:37AM >> JOHN B. SIMON JUNIOR.

2614 WEST PARKLAND.
I'VE LIVED THERE 33 YEARS.
I WAS THERE IN 29 YEARS AGO WHEN THE CITY PUT THE STORM
SEWER IN TO FIX THE PROBLEM IN PARKLAND.
IT WAS GROSSLY UNDERESTIMATED.
THE CITY CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM AND THEY CAN FIX IT EASILY
WITH THEIR STAFF.
BRAD BAIRD, WHO IS AN EXCELLENT GUY AND I'M SURE ALL OF YOU
KNOW HIM, JUST COMPLETED THE INCINERATOR WHICH WAS A HUNDRED
MILLION IN A HUNDRED DAYS.
SO A PROJECT OF 60 MILLION, BRAD IS MORE THAN CAPABLE.
YOU HAVE TWO ENGINEERS ON YOUR STAFF, JEFF DeBOSE, YVETTE
PALERO.
I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT 20 YEARS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND DOING
IT.
THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
EXCELLENT GUY WITH PJ CALLOWAY THAT CAN HANDLE THE
CONSTRUCTION.
I DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS WORK, BUT THE CITY HAS THE
RESOURCES AND THE ABILITY TO DO THIS.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TELL BRAD, YOU NEED TO GET THIS JOB
DONE AND YOU NEED TO GET IT DONE BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR AND
LET HIM WORK.
HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.
VERY COMPETENT.

I'VE WORKED WITH HIM ON NUMEROUS PROJECTS.
AND ON THESE BIG PROJECTS, WE DID THE WEST RIVER.
IT WAS A MAJOR PROJECT.
THE CITY DIVIDED IT INTO FOUR PARTS, GOT FOUR CONTRACTORS.
YOU CAN EASILY TELL KIMMINS NEED A COUPLE MORE CONTRACTORS.
HE CAN TAKE THEM FROM BAYSHORE TO THE CROSSTOWN, FROM THE
CROSSTOWN TO MORRISON AND BRISTOL AND THEN ANOTHER
CONTRACTOR FROM THERE TAKING IT UP SWANN.
THIS STORM SEWER WILL NOT CHANGE THE EXISTING STORM.
THIS WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL STORM SYSTEM THAT THE CITY WILL
HAVE.
THEY HAVE THE EXISTING.
THIS WILL ALMOST TRIPLE THE SIZE OF THE STORM SYSTEM.
IT WILL HELP THE AREAS WEST OF MacDILL.
IT WILL HELP THE AREAS EAST OF HOWARD.
IT WILL HELP THE AREAS WAY NORTH OF SWANN.
THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL STORM SEWER SYSTEM.
YOU GUYS CAN GET THIS DONE NOW.
IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED.
THE TREES ON BRISTOL.
SO TIRED ABOUT HEARING ABOUT BRISTOL.
BRISTOL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A STORM SEWER.
FROM THE CORNER OF BRISTOL AND MORRISON, THE WATER SURFACE
DRAINS DOWN TO LAKEVIEW.
BECAUSE IT COMES SO FAST, NO DRAINAGE ON BRISTOL, BUT IN

SOME APARTMENT COMPLEX THEY HAVE A SMALL INLET.
THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THAT WATER COMES DOWN LAKEVIEW AND THEN GOES NORTH LAKEVIEW
TO PARKLAND AND IT JUST CREATES THE FLOODING.
IT GOES RIGHT OVER THE DRAINS BECAUSE THE SYSTEM FILLS UP.
AS I GAVE YOU THE BOOK OF THE PICTURES, THAT'S TEN FLOODS.
AND OF THOSE TEN FLOODS, SIX OF THEM WERE LESS THAN AN INCH
OF RAIN.
NOT EVERYONE KNOWS, THERE ISN'T A HOUSE IN PARKLAND THAT'S
LOWER THAN THE ELEVATION OF 18.
IF THE WATER WAS 18 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HALF THE CITY, ALL
DOWNTOWN WOULD BE GONE.
WESTSHORE, BAYSHORE, HYDE PARK, THEY WOULD ALL BE GONE.
THIS AREA HAS BEEN BOXED IN.
IT'S BOXED IN FROM THE CROSSTOWN, THE RAILROAD AND ALSO THE
OTHER PROJECTS.
11:05:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
MATT RADECK.
11:06:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MATT RADECK.
I AM DISCUSSING ITEM 61, THE PROPOSED EAST YBOR BROWNFIELD
DESIGNATION AREA.
NOW, I'M A PROPERTY OWNER DIRECTLY ATTACHED TO THE
BROWNFIELD AREA.

11:06:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST A MOMENT, SIR.
IS THAT A PUBLIC HEARING?
11:06:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ITEM 61 IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT WILL BE TAKEN UP LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON, SIR.
11:06:32AM >> SO I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT NOW?
11:06:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF HE SPEAKS NOW, HE WON'T BE ABLE TO
TALK ABOUT IT THEN, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:06:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THAT A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER?
11:06:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT DOESN'T SAY.
11:06:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
IT'S VACATE.
AT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:06:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ARE HERE NOW, SPEAK NOW.
11:06:49AM >> I'LL WAIT FOR ITEM 61.
11:06:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT WILL BE AFTER LUNCH.
SO IF YOU'RE HERE AND WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT KEEP GOING.
I'M SORRY, SIR.
11:07:02AM >> MY PROPERTY IS RIGHT THERE.
11:07:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD SO WE CAN SEE IT.
11:07:12AM >> HERE IS THE PROPOSED DESIGNATED AREA.
MINE IS RIGHT THERE.
AS PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHT THERE, WHY DO WE NOT GET NOTICE OF
THIS PROPOSED BROWNFIELD?
CHAPTER 37680 OF FLORIDA STATUTES SUPPOSED TO GIVE PROPERTY
OWNERS WITHIN THE AFFECTED AREA CERTAIN RIGHTS.

WHY AM I NOT AFFORDED THOSE RIGHTS?
THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE US NOTICE,
ANYONE WHO IS AFFECTED WITHIN 300 FEET.
WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED.
HOW MANY MORE OTHERS WERE NOT NOTIFIED?
THE POSTED SIGN WAS WAY OFF THE ROAD, OBSCURED BY WEEDS AND
NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH TAMPA'S NOTICE SIGN.
IT HAD NO PHONE NUMBER, NO CASE OR FILE NUMBER AND NO QR
CODE.
GIVEN THESE DISCREPANCIES I PROPOSE A WHOLE NOTICE OF PUBLIC
PERIOD BE STARTED ALL OVER AGAIN, PROPERLY AND LEGALLY TO
GIVE THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS AND AREA RESIDENTS THE
INFORMATION AND RESPECT THEY NEED AND DESERVE TO RESEARCH
THIS AND SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY.
JUST WHY DID THE CITY DECIDE TO TEST FOR CONTAMINATION OF
THIS VACANT LOT?
WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF THIS LOT?
INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS EVER OPERATED THERE?
11:08:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, FORGIVE ME FOR
INTERRUPTING, SIR.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR OR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO, SIR, IS
A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION OF ADEQUATE LEGAL NOTICE.
THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR YOU TO STAY IF YOU'RE ABLE TO
BECAUSE THE ATTORNEYS ARE NOT HERE.

THE STAFF IS NOT HERE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS,
BUT THAT IS THE THRESHOLD QUESTION.
IF SOMETHING IS NOT ADEQUATELY NOTICED, A HEARING CANNOT GO
FORWARD.
SO WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT INITIALLY, BUT IF YOU ARE NOT
HERE TO EXPLAIN IT AND IF THEY ARE NOT HERE TO RESPOND, THEN
WE CAN'T DO THAT.
I'LL ASK THAT THIS MATTER BE HELD AND I'LL ASK YOU TO --
ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
11:09:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
WE'LL HAVE THE HEARING LATER THIS AFTERNOON, SIR.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.
11:09:22AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.
WHAT TIME SHOULD I COME BACK?
11:09:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AFTER 1:30, 2:00.
11:09:28AM >> OKAY.
I'LL BE HERE.
11:09:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
YVONNE FERRELLI, MIKE BARNA AND MARILYN SAMAHA.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WE'LL START THE CLOCK.
11:10:34AM >> YVONNE FERRELLI.
I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
I HANDED YOU ALL BINDERS.
I AM GOING DIRECTLY TO DOCUMENT THREE, WHICH IS THE FLOODING
THAT IS REPRESENTED IN THIS MAP HERE ON THE STAGE HERE.
THAT MAP WAS CREATED BY THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO REFLECT A
TYPE OF FLOODING THAT WOULD OCCUR AFTER THE SOUTH HOWARD
PROJECT STORM SYSTEM HAD BEEN INSTALLED IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
SO THIS MAP REFLECTS FLOODING THAT WOULD OCCUR IN A
SUBSTANTIAL STORM LESS THAN MILTON, AND IT INCLUDES FLOODING
UP IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND PARKLAND ESTATES.
IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF FLOODING THAT OCCURRED
DURING MILTON IN THIS AREA, SO WE KNOW THAT EVEN IF THAT
PROJECT HAD BEEN INSTALLED IT WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED THE POOR
PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE THAT FLOODED IN PALMA
CEIA PINES.
THIS IS ANOTHER IN THE SERIES OF THESE MAPS THAT THE
MOBILITY DEPARTMENT CREATED.
IN THIS YOU SEE THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT STILL IS
REPRESENTED BY LIGHT BLUE AS FLOODING IN THAT AREA AFTER THE
PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
YOU SEE PALMA CEIA PINES IS COMPLETELY FLOODED IN THIS MAP,
EVEN AFTER THE PROJECT HAS BEEN INSTALLED.
SO THIS IS A FLOODING OF A FIVE-YEAR EVENT.

FIVE-YEAR EVENT IS ESSENTIALLY A SUMMER STORM.
YOU'VE HEARD PEOPLE HERE TODAY THAT HAVE DESCRIBED JUST A
REGULAR RAINSTORM CAN CAUSE TWO TO THREE FEET OF FLOODING IN
PARKLAND ESTATES.
THIS IS A REFLECTION OF THAT.
IT'S CALLED THE FIVE-YEAR EVENT, AND THERE WOULD STILL BE
FLOODING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER THE PROJECT HAS BEEN
INSTALLED AS IT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.
I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT DOCUMENTS 5A AND 5B.
AGAIN, THIS IS A CLOSER INSPECTION.
THIS MAP WAS CREATED BY THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, AND YOU SEE
HERE THESE ARE THE FLOODED AREAS THAT WILL REMAIN IN
PARKLAND ESTATES AFTER THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED.
THIS IS THE ASSOCIATED E-MAIL THAT GOES WITH THAT MAP.
AND YOU SEE THAT THEY REFER TO JEAN DUNCAN AND THEY SAY IN
THE LIGHT BLUE BLOBS ARE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WILL REMAIN AFTER
COMPLETING THIS PROJECT.
THAT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE GIVEN THIS PROJECT FIVE-YEAR EVENT
GOAL, AND THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO CURE THE PROJECT OR THE
FLOODING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:13:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
ALL RIGHT.
NEXT UP WE HAVE MIKE BARNA, MARILYN SAMAHA AND ROCK
SCAGLIONE.
11:13:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS MIKE BARNA.
I'M A 35-YEAR RESIDENT OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT, I WENT TO A
MEETING AND I WAS TOLD BY THE PEOPLE THERE TO PLEASE GET
INVOLVED.
AFTER GETTING INVOLVED, I WENT TO A CITY COMMUNITY MEETING
AND WAS TOLD AT THE MEETING BY THE CITY AND THE DESIGN-BUILD
CONTRACTOR THAT WE NEED FLOOD RELIEF.
THIS IS THE PROJECT.
WE WANT TO DO MINIMAL AMOUNT OF DAMAGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THEY PROPOSED THREE DIFFERENT ROUTES FOR THE FLOOD
RELIEF PROJECT.
TWO THAT CUT THROUGH PARKLAND ESTATES AND ONE THAT WENT
AROUND PARKLAND ESTATES.
THROUGH MY ENGINEERING BACKGROUND, ENGINEERING TRAINING, I
WAS TAUGHT TO TAKE A PROBLEM, COME UP WITH A POSSIBLE
SOLUTION, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE.
WE ALL WANT FLOOD RELIEF.
EVERYBODY IN PARKLAND ESTATES WANTS FLOOD RELIEF.
WE JUST WANT THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION.
IF YOU TAKE ALL THE VARIABLES, YOU PUT THEM TOGETHER, IT
SEEMS LIKE IF THERE ARE DIFFERENT ROUTES, WHY WOULD YOU TAKE
THE ROUTE FOR A COMMERCIAL PROJECT, WHICH IS NEEDED, AND
DESTROY A NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU CAN GO AROUND THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE COMMON SENSE TO ME.
THANK YOU.
11:15:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
MARILYN SAMAHA, ROCK SCAGLIONE, GREG CAMPBELL.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:15:45AM >> MY NAME IS MARILYN SAMAHA.
I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
I WAS ELECTED TO THE PECC BOARD IN MAY, AND I HAVE
PREVIOUSLY BEEN ON THE PECC BOARD AND I HAVE LIVED IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
OUR BOARD HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND
TRANSPARENT WITH THEM IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE SOUTH
HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
WE HAVE POSTED PEC STATEMENTS MULTIPLE TIMES ON SOCIAL MEDIA
CHANNELS.
OUR PCC WEBSITE AND HELD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT WERE
DESIGNED TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DOUBT ABOUT PEC'S COMMITMENT TO RESOLVE
THE FLOODING ISSUES IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
WE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE WITH NEIGHBORS AFFECTED BY THE FLOOD
AND THE PROPOSED SOUTH HOWARD FLORIDA ROUTE TO JOIN PEC --
PECC TO FIND A STRONGER LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM THE CITY THAT
WOULD PROVIDE ALL NEIGHBORS WITH A BETTER SOLUTION THAN WHAT

HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT FLOOD RELIEF IS
NEEDED AND PCC WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL,
STAFF, AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
PCC WANTS A DESIGN WITH COMMUNITY INPUT PLAN, NOT A
DESIGN-BUILD PLAN.
WE STAND WITH FIVE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND AREA
BUSINESSES THAT DO NOT SUPPORT THE ORIGINAL SOLUTION AND
ROUTE PUT FORTH BY STAFF.
PECC WANTS A STRONGER LEVEL OF SERVICE TO BE PROVIDED BY
MOBILITY STAFF SO THAT PARKLAND ESTATES DOESN'T FLOOD.
WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH MOBILITY STAFF TO THOUGHTFULLY REWORK
THE PROJECT GOALS AND ACHIEVE BETTER FLOOD RELIEF FOR OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
LARGE BOX CULVERTS AS PROPOSED ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
TREE-LINED STREETS.
ON THE STORMWATER UNDERGROUND MAP ON TAMPA.GOV, I'VE LOOKED
AT MAJOR ARTERIES LIKE MacDILL, ROME, SWANN.
THERE ARE NO BOX CULVERTS.
WHY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD?
PECC WANTS TO BE NOTIFIED IN A TIMELY FASHION ABOUT ALL CITY
COUNCIL AND MOBILITY STAFF MEETINGS THAT ADDRESS THE SOUTH
HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT RELATED TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
AND/OR TAKE PLACE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

INCUMBENT ON PECC TO BE TRANSPARENT AND INFORMED BY THE
CITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND TIME.
11:18:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
NEXT UP, WE HAVE ROCK SCAGLIONE, GREG CAMPBELL, AND FRANK
FERNANDEZ.
WELCOME.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:18:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS ROCK SCAGLIONE, 2718 WEST TERRACE DRIVE.
MY FAMILY AND I HAVE LIVED IN PARKLAND ESTATES FOR SIX
YEARS.
I HAVE A REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND AND HELP MANY OF THE
NEIGHBORS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD SELL AND BUY THEIR HOME.
I WAS ELECTED TO THE BOARD ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO AND CHOSEN
TO BE PRESIDENT.
SO WE HAVE STEPPED FORWARD TO ASSEMBLE.
QUICK BACKGROUND, PARKLAND ESTATES, MANY OF YOU ALREADY
KNOW, 350 HOMES.
RICH HISTORY.
HUNDRED YEARS DEEP.
LOTS OF MATURE TREE CANOPIES.
PEOPLE CHOOSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE CLOSE TO HYDE PARK,

CLOSE TO BAYSHORE.
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE.
I DO REAL ESTATE.
I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE DRIVEN TO THE AREA BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THERE IS A FAILURE OF THE
STORMWATER SYSTEM AND OUR BOARD IS HIGHLY EMPATHETIC TO THE
LOSSES THAT NEARLY 10% OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE SUSTAINED
DURING THE HURRICANE IN PARTICULAR.
WHEN THE BOARD AND I TOOK OFFICE IN APRIL, WE CAME TOGETHER
TO QUICKLY SORT OF ASSEMBLE WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
MANY OF US, MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS AT-LARGE DID NOT KNOW
ABOUT THIS SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROGRAM.
THERE WAS POOR COMMUNICATION ACROSS THE BOARD.
BUT NOW THAT WE SORT OF DUG IN AND WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO
THE NEIGHBORS, LISTENING TO THOSE IMPACTED, LISTENING TO
EVERYONE, I'M TRYING TO GET A CONSENSUS OF THE CONCERNS OF
THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH I BELIEVE ARE A LARGER PLAN MAY TAKE
SEVERAL YEARS.
WE NEED A QUICK-FIX.
WE NEED SOMETHING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
WE SEE WATERS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE NORTH ARE
FLOWING DOWN.
VIDEO CAPTURING COMING DOWN AUDUBON, ARMENIA AND SO FORTH.
WHAT ARE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS DOING OR WHAT ARE WE DOING TO
HELP THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS SUSTAIN THEIR OWN WATER?

THERE USED TO BE A MASSIVE CONCRETE FOUNTAIN IN FOUNTAIN
PARK.
WE BELIEVE THERE COULD BE THIS LARGE CONCRETE IMPERMEABLE
SURFACE UNDERNEATH THE SOIL.
WE WANT AN INVESTIGATION INTO THAT TO SEE IF THAT'S POSSIBLY
PREVENTING SOME OF THE NATURAL DISSIPATION.
WE BELIEVE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ON THE
CURRENT STORMWATER PIPES AND DEBRIS COULD BE CREATING
BLOCKAGES.
STORMWATER PLAN, STRONGLY FEEL LARGE BOX CULVERTS NO PLACE
ON SMALL TREE LINED HISTORIC STREETS AND WE PREFER THEM TO
BE THE BIG AREAS AND THE BIG ROADS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER ROUTES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY
BE EXPLORED.
WE HAVE NOT HEARD OF THEM.
WE WOULD LIKE MORE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.
WE BELIEVE IF WE SUPPORT DESIGN WITH COMMUNITY INPUT, CITY
ENGINEERS, CITY COUNCIL, AND THE COMMUNITY, ALL OF US CAN
COME TOGETHER TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY ON A PLAN THAT
ACHIEVES ALL OF OUR GOALS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE.
11:21:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
NEXT UP, GREG CAMPBELL, FRANK FERNANDEZ, RUMELA DOSS.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:21:31AM >> THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS GREG CAMPBELL.
I AM A MEMBER OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB BOARD.
I WAS ELECTED LAST MAY, WAS RECRUITED REALLY LAST MAY WITH
SUPPORT FROM BOTH SIDES.
I'M NOT SURE I WOULD HAVE IT NOW, BUT YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE
DIFFERENCES AMONG US.
TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENCES AND COME TO A
CONCLUSION WE CAN ALL AGREE ON IS THE BIGGEST ASSIGNMENT FOR
US.
I THINK I'VE SEEN PROGRESS.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL MORE TO MAKE.
WE NEED YOUR HELP, YOUR SUPPORT.
COMING UP MOST IN VERY SHORTLY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU HAVE
TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST A DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT.
AS I UNDERSTAND THAT, DESIGN-BUILD, IF YOU APPROVE IT, YOU
EFFECTIVELY REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE PROCESS THEREAFTER.
IT PROCEEDS ON ITS OWN COURSE.
WE'RE ASKING YOU NOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE NEED YOUR
CONTINUED HELP AND SUPPORT AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR OWN ISSUES
AND AS WE SEEK TO WORK WITH OTHER NEIGHBORING ASSOCIATIONS
AND ALL TOGETHER TO WORK ON A PROJECT THAT REALLY CAN BE
GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO OUR PLEA TO YOU, AS IT COMES UP, VOTE FOR DESIGN WITH
CONTINUED COMMUNITY INPUT SO THAT TOGETHER WE CAN WORK OUT A

SYSTEM THAT IS BEST FOR ALL.
I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF FOUNTAIN AND AUDUBON.
THE FIRST CORNER, THE BACK CORNER IS SWANN AND AUDUBON.
THAT IS GROUND ZERO FOR FLOODING.
BARBARA AND I ARE NOW IN AN AirBnB BUNGALOW AS OUR HOME IS
BEING FUMIGATED AND ALL THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO.
WE KNOW ABOUT FLOODING.
MY PARENTS BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY IN 1953, AND I'VE SEEN IT
ACROSS ALL THESE YEARS.
WE DO KNOW ABOUT FLOODING.
MILTON WAS THE WORST.
NO WATER IN THE HOUSE BEFORE THEN, BEFORE THE LAST COUPLE OF
WEEKS, BUT ABOUT AN INCH NOW.
THAT WREAKS HAVOC.
WE DO NEED HELP.
I DO THINK THAT THE IDEA OF BOX CULVERTS ALONG COMMERCIAL
AVENUES LEADING TO THE BAY IS A VERY GOOD ONE.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT IT MAKES COMMON SENSE.
BUT NOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE TREE-LINED STREETS AND
THE OLDER HOMES WHERE YOU DESTROY THE AMBIENCE.
YOU CUT OFF YOUR HAND IN THE PROCESS TO SOLVE A PROBLEM.
WE CAN HAVE BOTH.
BOX CULVERTS IN THE AVENUES AND PIPES, LARGER CONCRETE PIPES
IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
BOX CULVERTS ON THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES.

THAT'S THE WAY WE THINK WE CAN GO.
WE DO NEED YOUR HELP.
11:24:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
FRANK FERNANDEZ.
RUMELA DOSS, AND AMY BROWN.
THAT'S HOW I READ IT.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:24:55AM >> FRANK FERNANDEZ.
GOOD MORNING, DISTINGUISHED CITY OF TAMPA COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I OWN THE BUSINESS ON THE CORNER OF SWANN AND ARMENIA.
2503 WEST SWANN AVENUE.
ALSO OWN THE BUILDING DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT AT 609 SOUTH
ARMENIA.
I WOULD URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THIS RELIEF PROJECT.
YOU'VE HEARD A LOT FROM PEOPLE FOR A LONG TIME.
OUR BUILDING WAS SEVERELY AFFECTED BY CAUSING HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGE.
I OWN THREE BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE OUT OF THAT BUILDING,
AND WE ARE STILL NOT UP AND RUNNING.
THERE'S NO ONE IN THE BUILDING.
HAD TO BE CLEARED OUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STORM.
I HAVE MULTIPLE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE OUT OF MY
BUILDING.
OTHER LAW FIRMS, ACCOUNTING FIRMS, OTHER PROFESSIONALS THAT

HAVE BEEN DISPLACED.
IT'S A PROBLEM.
THE ISSUE IS THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT NO ONE WANTS TO
GO THROUGH IT.
I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE TROUBLED BY THE DESTRUCTION OF
THE ROADS.
I WILL I HAVE IN HYDE PARK JUST DOWN THE ROADWAY.
BUT THE QUESTION FOR YOU ALL IS A VERY SIMPLE ONE.
IS IT NECESSARY?
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION BEFORE YOU.
EVERYBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT ISSUES, BUT REALLY THE ONLY
QUESTION BEFORE YOU IS, IS IT NECESSARY?
WE HAVE SEEN THE PICTURES OF ALL THE FLOODING THAT'S
HAPPENED REPEATEDLY EVEN WHEN THERE ARE NOT HURRICANES
APPROACHING US.
OUR BUILDING, WHEN WE BUILT IT IN 2014 THROUGH 16 WAS CIVIL
ENGINEERED TO AVOID FLOODING AND IT DIDN'T.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY NECESSARY.
YOU HAVE A MOBILITY STAFF WHO TOLD YOU IT'S NECESSARY.
YOU HAVE CIVIL ENGINEERS WHO HAVE GIVEN YOU REPORTS SAYING
IT'S NECESSARY.
AND YOU'VE KNOWN THESE THINGS FOR YEARS.
YOU HAVE A FEW OWNERS OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION
TO IT.
THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

IT WILL AFFECT THEIR BUSINESSES BUT IN THE END IT WILL BE
BETTER FOR THEIR BUSINESSES.
THE ISSUE ALSO IS CIVIL LIABILITY FOR THE CITY.
THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN DAMAGED, NOT THEORETICALLY DAMAGED BUT ACTUALLY
DAMAGED, 768.28 COULD BRING CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY.
MULTIPLE CLAIMS.
EVEN IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE'S CAR WHO HAS BEEN DAMAGED, THAT
PERSON COULD BRING A CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY.
SO WHILE YOU MAY HAVE THEORETICAL DAMAGES OF OTHER PROPERTY
OWNERS OR OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS, THESE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY
DAMAGED AND ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING CIVIL CLAIMS
AGAINST THE CITY.
IN ADDITION TO THE BILL TO FIX THE PROJECT, WHATEVER IT IS,
64 MILLION, YOU MAY HAVE THEIR CLAIMS STACKED ON TOP OF IT,
PLUS THE CITY ATTORNEY FEES.
11:27:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:27:59AM >> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
11:28:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RUMELA DOSS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
AMY BROWN.
AND THEN JANE SIMON.
11:28:14AM >> HI.
GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS RUMELA DOSS.

I AM A HOMEOWNER IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
I LIVE THERE WITH MY HUSBAND, MY FOUR AND ONE-YEAR-OLD BABY
BOYS.
A MEMBER OF THE CIVIC CLUB AND I ALSO SPEAK FOR A LOT OF THE
FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN THAT DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET ON
THE BOARD OF THE CIVIC CLUB.
BUT THEY HAVE OPINIONS TOO.
I'M HERE TO REPRESENT A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS.
I'M HERE TO IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE PUSH
FORWARD THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
I KNOW YOU HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS ASKING YOU TO DELAY.
I'VE HEARD EVERYONE'S OPINIONS, WORRIED ABOUT TREES, THINGS
LIKE THAT, BUT THE SAFETY OF OUR YOUNG CHILDREN COMES WAY
ABOVE ALL OF THAT.
PLEASE, DON'T MAKE US WADE THROUGH FLOODWATERS WHEN WE COME
HOME FROM SCHOOL WITH OUR YOUNG CHILDREN BECAUSE OF AN
AFTERNOON RAINSTORM.
PUSH FORWARD THE PROJECT NOW, NOT WHEN THEY GO OFF TO
COLLEGE AND WE HAVE A RELIEF PROGRAM COMING THEN, IF THEY
CAN MAKE IT THAT FAR.
LET'S GET TO THAT POINT WITH OUR CHILDREN BEING SAFE.
THAT'S ALL I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
THANK YOU.
11:29:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[ APPLAUSE ]
AMY.
YES, MA'AM.
JANE IS AFTER.
AND THEN JOANIE CORNEIL.
11:29:28AM >> HI.
AMY BROWN.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF US SHARE OUR
FEEDBACK ON THE PARKLAND ESTATES FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT AND
APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS SHORT.
I LIVE IN PARKLAND.
I AM AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
BUT I DO SUPPORT THE DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT AND WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE AND LOVE TO SEE YOUR CONVERSATION FOR SWIFT ACTION.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE COMMUNICATION MENTIONED EARLIER,
IT WAS ALL RETROACTIVE, KIND OF AFTER THE FACT.
SO WE DID LEARN ABOUT -- THE PECC BOARD STANCE, BUT IT WAS
RETROACTIVE.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUT THAT I'M IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I DID NOT FLOOD.
MANY OF THE PEOPLE HERE, THEY ALL FLOODED, BUT I'M STILL IN
SUPPORT OF TRYING TO GET THIS DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE PAY HIGH PROPERTY TAXES AND MOVE TO ZONE X FOR A REASON.

SHOULDN'T BE HELD UP INDEFINITELY BY THE FEEDBACK ABOUT
TREES IN FRONT OF HOUSES OR A COUPLE DOZEN BUSINESSES IN
SOHO.
IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT FLOODED THAT WANT A RESOLUTION
NOW.
I REPRESENT MANY PEOPLE THAT DID NOT FLOOD THAT STILL
SUPPORT QUICK ACTION BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO
PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE NEXT EVENT.
LASTLY, I WORK FROM HOME.
TOO MANY FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN HIT.
MANY OF THE FOLKS THAT WORK FROM HOME WE REPRESENT SMALL AND
LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT WERE AFFECTED BY THE DISRUPTION OF THE
FLOODS AND WERE JEOPARDIZING THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE
LOCAL ECONOMY.
I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT I WOULD LIKE A SOLUTION AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE DO HAVE THE PLANS.
THE ENGINEERED PLANS.
PLEASE VOTE FOR IT ON NOVEMBER 21st.
THANK YOU.
11:31:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
YES, MA'AM, JANE.
YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:31:26AM >> JANE SIMON.
11:31:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
GO AHEAD.
11:31:28AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHER CITIZENS
OF THE COMMUNITY.
MY NAME IS JANE SIMON.
I LIVED IN PARKLAND ESTATES FOR 13 YEARS.
I WAS A MEMBER OF THE CIVIC BOARD FOR 6 YEARS AND I BECAME
PRESIDENT IN 2022.
IN 2023, I WAS FORCED OUT BECAUSE I WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS
PROJECT.
DURING THE YEARS THAT I LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FLOODING
HAS BEEN A MAJOR ISSUE WHERE ALL OF US WORRY ABOUT THE
IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR KIDS, OUR CARS, OUR HOUSES.
EVEN RUINED FEDEX TRUCKS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DRIVER WAS INJURED.
THE FLOODING AFFECTS ALL OF US AND IT WILL RUIN SEVERAL
TREES ALONG FOUNTAIN BOULEVARD.
FOR WORK, I'M ACTUALLY A GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR AND I KNOW THE
IMPORTANCE OF GRANT FUNDING.
I KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH RESTRICTED DOLLARS.
THESE DOLLARS WON'T BE AROUND FOREVER.
IT WOULD BE A TRAGEDY TO LOSE THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT
BECAUSE OF A FEW NEIGHBORS WHO AREN'T LOOKING AT ALL OF THE

FACTS.
MY NETWORK IS LARGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I KNOW AND
REPRESENT SEVERAL FAMILIES WHO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE
THE FLOOD MITIGATION IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
WE CANNOT STRESS OVER THE DETAILS NOW.
WE NEED TO LET THE ENGINEERS DO THEIR WORK AND NEED TO LET
THIS PROJECT PROCEED.
THANK YOU.
11:32:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
[ APPLAUSE ]
JOANIE IS THE NEXT SPEAKER, FOLLOWED BY MR. ALBERT COOKE AND
RICK LARSON.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:32:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M JOANIE CORNEIL.
I'VE HAD A BUSINESS ON HOWARD AVENUE FOR OVER 38 YEARS.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S CONCERNS.
I FEEL SUCH SYMPATHY FOR EVERYBODY IN TAMPA AND AROUND OUR
STATE THAT HAS HAD SO MUCH DAMAGE.
ADDRESSING THAT, I FEEL THAT THE PROBLEM WITH THE SOUTH
HOWARD PROJECT IS THAT SOUTH HOWARD IS A TWO-LANE STREET AS
WE ALL KNOW, AND CLOSING IT DOWN SECTION BY SECTION IS
DETRIMENTAL TO THE BUSINESSES ON SOUTH HOWARD BECAUSE OF THE
STREET ACCESS FROM THE SIDE STREETS.

BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, YOU CLOSED DOWN HOWARD -- ACCESS TO
HOWARD BY EMERGENCY VEHICLES, THOSE DELIVERY, SEMI TRAILER
TRUCKS THAT NEED TO GET TO EVERYONE'S BUSINESSES TO DELIVER.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS WILL NOT ALLOW THAT.
THEY ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH.
HAVING SAID THAT, ALSO, IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO EVERY BUSINESS
ON HOWARD, BECAUSE ONCE HOWARD IS BLOCKED, CUSTOMERS ARE NOT
GOING TO EVEN GO TO THAT AREA.
THEY ARE GOING TO GO, OH, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH
THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC AND THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THEIR HOMES FOREVER
BUT THERE ARE BUSINESSES ON HOWARD THAT HAVE HAD BUSINESSES
FOREVER.
I FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME WAY THAT THE ENGINEERS
COULD COME UP WITH A PLAN TO MOVE THIS TO -- AND I DON'T
WANT TO GET SHOT FOR THIS -- BUT TO MacDILL, A FOUR-LANE
STREET SO THAT ONLY TWO LANES WOULD HAVE TO BE CLOSED.
I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT
SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER SOLUTION.
YES, IT WILL AFFECT TRAFFIC ON MacDILL, BUT IF THEY ONLY
CLOSE TWO LANES AT A TIME, THERE WOULD STILL BE ACCESS TO
EVERYBODY'S HOMES, TO THE BUSINESSES ON HOWARD.
IT'S VERY DISTURBING WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR CITY AND OUR
COUNTY.
PINELLAS COUNTY, AROUND THE ENTIRE STATE.

I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR AREA,
OUR PART OF TOWN TO REMEDY THIS AND THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
I THINK EVERYONE IS FOCUSED ON HOWARD AVENUE AND MAYBE THEY
SHOULD LOOK ELSEWHERE.
THANKS.
11:35:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
NEXT UP IS MR. ALBERT COOKE.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOLLOWED BY RICK LARSON AND DOROTHY
BLAND.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:36:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS ALBERT COOKE.
I LIVE IN VM YBOR.
TODAY I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU, I'M GOING TO COMMENT AS A
MEMBER OF THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD AND CHAIRMAN OF THE NEWLY
FORMED CHIEFS ADVISORY PANEL.
TODAY YOU WILL VOTE ON THE TAMPA CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD CITY
ORDINANCE.
FIRST, A QUICK HISTORY.
IN 2015, THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD WAS INFORMED TO ENHANCE
TRUST BETWEEN THE TAMPA CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY
IT SERVES BY CREATING AN UNBIASED PANEL OF CITIZENS TO
REVIEW COMPLETED DISCIPLINARY CASES AND ISSUES OF IMPORTANCE

OR INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE REVIEW BOARD REPORTED ITS FINDINGS TO THE CHIEF OF
POLICE AND WHEN APPROPRIATE MAY RECOMMEND POSSIBLE POLICY
CHANGES.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, FLORIDA STATE LEGISLATORS PASSED HOUSE
BILL 601.
THIS BILL INITIALLY -- ESSENTIALLY END CITIZEN REVIEW BOARDS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
FORTUNATELY, TPD CHIEF LEE BERCAW UNDERSTANDS THE VALUE OF
CITIZEN INPUT AND CREATED A NEW OVERSIGHT BOARD CALLED THE
CHIEF'S ADVISORY PANEL.
IN AN INTRODUCTORY LETTER TO THE PANEL, CHIEF BERCAW STATED
THIS PANEL SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW
AND FEEDBACK ON TPD OPERATIONS, MEMBERS OF THIS PANEL WILL
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIRECTLY EXAMINE AND PROVIDE
INFORMED INSIGHT ON POLICE POLICY AND CONFIRM THAT IT ALIGNS
WITH THE NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY IT SERVES.
THIS PANEL WILL FORCE TRANSPARENCY, STRENGTHEN POLICE
COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS, AND ULTIMATELY HELP IN THE SHARED
GOAL OF MAKING TAMPA SAFER.
THE CHIEF ADVISORY PANEL CONSISTS OF SIX CITIZENS AND ONE
RETIRED POLICE OFFICER.
THE MEETINGS ARE ATTENDED BY THE CHIEF, HIS DEPUTIES AND
SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
BECAUSE CHIEF BERCAW ATTENDS THE MEETINGS, PANEL LEADERSHIP

DOES NOT HAVE TO REPORT TO THE CHIEF.
HE IS PRESENT AT THE MEETINGS, REDUCING ADMINISTRATIVE RED
TAPE.
WE WILL MEET BIMONTHLY AND THE PLAN TO HAVE OUR MEETINGS --
PLAN TO HAVE OUR MEETINGS AT PUBLIC VENUES THROUGHOUT THE
CITY, INCLUDING TPD DISTRICT OFFICES.
THE CHIEF'S ADVISORY PANEL HAS ALREADY MET, ELECTED ITS
LEADERSHIP AND HAS BEGUN WORKING ON ITS FIRST PROJECT.
THIS IS NOT THE END OF POLICE OVERSIGHT.
IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT FORMAT WITHIN THE GUIDELINES SET BY
OUR STATE LEADERSHIP.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO.
11:38:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:59AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RICK LARSON.
DOROTHY BLAND, AND CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:39:07AM >> RICK LARSON.
807 SOUTH LAKEVIEW ROAD.
I'VE LIVED IN PARKLAND ESTATES 22 YEARS.
I LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO -- NOTES THAT TOOK ME HOURS TO TYPE.
I'M JUST GOING TO TALK.
HURTS MY HEART TO HEAR MY NEIGHBORS SAY THEY ARE NOT BEING

REPRESENTED BY OUR BOARD.
IN APRIL, WE HAD OUR ANNUAL MEETING, AND THEY VOTED OUT THE
OLD BOARD BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE AND PUT US IN.
I REALLY WISH I HADN'T RUN BECAUSE THIS IS NOT FUN.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP.
I THINK YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND.
WE ARE ALL FOR STARTING THIS PROJECT YESTERDAY.
WE JUST ASK FOR TWO THINGS.
WE THINK THE DESIGN-BUILD TOGETHER IS DANGEROUS FOR US AS A
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE WOULD LIKE YOUR PROTECTION.
IF WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE DESIGN AND BUILD, WE COULD HAVE
COMMUNITY INPUT THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS.
AND IF WE DIDN'T LIKE SOMETHING, WE COULD COME BACK AND ASK
FOR HELP.
CAN'T DO THAT IF YOU PUT THE PROJECT TOGETHER.
WE'RE DOING THAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT
TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS A BEAUTIFUL, HISTORIC, TREE-LINED NEIGHBORHOOD,
HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
WHEN THEY PRESENTED THIS TO US, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT
UNTIL MARCH.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON TEN YEARS.
WE KNEW NOTHING.

SO IN MARCH, I START DIGGING AND LOOKING, THERE ARE THREE
PLANNED ROUTES.
TWO OF THEM GO THROUGH PARKLAND.
ONE OF THEM IS THE MOST OBVIOUS, WHICH GOES HALFWAY UP
HOWARD PAST THE THAI RESTAURANT, COMES BACK TO BRISTOL AND
BACK UP LAKEVIEW.
IT MAKES NO SENSE.
FIVE TURNS, HALFWAY UP HOWARD.
THEY PRESENTED THIS TO THE BUSINESSES AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE
GOING TO BURY YOUR ELECTRICAL WIRES.
WE'RE GOING TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALKS.
WE'LL DO NEW LANDSCAPING.
WE'LL SLOW THE TRAFFIC.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
THEY ARE ONLY DOING HALF OF HOWARD.
WHY NOT GO ALL THE WAY TO SWANN AND DOWN TO PARKLAND
ESTATES?
THAT'S THE ISSUE.
THIS IS A REGIONAL COMMUNITY-BASED PROBLEM.
AND THEY ARE TRYING TO SOLVE IT BY DESTROYING THE
NEIGHBORHOODS.
MAKES NO SENSE TO ASK US TO DO THAT.
I'M HERE TODAY, THOUGH, TO SAY EVEN IF THEY STARTED TODAY, I
KNOW THIS IS A THREE-YEAR PROJECT AT LEAST, JUST BY THEIR
OWN NUMBERS.

SO I LOOKED INTO THIS.
I'VE BEEN READING.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.
ALL OF THE WATER FOR PARKLAND ESTATES IS BEING CREATED FROM
THE NORTH OF US.
PALMA CEIA PINES.
PEOPLE THAT FLOODED, ALL THAT IS MEMORIAL HOSPITAL JUST DID
AN EXPANSION, ALL THESE TOWN HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT ON
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, TWO AND FOUR TOWN HOUSES, NOTHING BUT
CONCRETE UP THERE.
AND THE ROADS ARE ALL DESIGNED, AUDUBON AND ARMENIA, ALL
COME RIGHT INTO THE MOUTH OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
THAT'S WHAT THE ENGINEERS DID THAT THEY ARE ASKING US TO
TRUST.
IN THEIR OWN REPORT, YOU CAN READ THAT IT SAYS THE STREETS
ARE MILLED WRONG.
THEY GOT PAVED AND REPAVED AND THEY NEVER WERE MILLED
CORRECTLY.
SO THEIR OWN SEWER DRAINS UP IN PALMA CEIA DON'T WORK.
SO THAT WATER IS ON THE SURFACE FLOWING RIGHT TO THE MOUTH
OF A KNOWN FLOODED AREA.
THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
SO MUCH OF THIS COULD BE CHANGED TODAY. THAT SHOULD HAVE
BEEN CHANGED BEFORE.
IT'S IN THE REPORT.

THAT COULD BE CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY.
11:42:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:42:14AM >> THANK YOU, GUYS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:42:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DOROTHY BLAND IS THE NEXT SPEAKER
FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
AND THEN POYNOR.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:42:29AM >> IS THERE A MICROPHONE?
11:42:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, IT'S HIDDEN IN THE HARDWARE THERE.
IT WILL AMPLIFY AND PICK EVERYTHING UP.
11:42:37AM >> DEEDEE BLAND.
MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE IN THE 33629 ZIP CODE AND OWN THREE
LONG-TERM RENTAL RESIDENCES ALSO IN 33629.
QUITE FRANKLY, THE PECC BOARD'S POLITICS THAT ARE TRYING TO
PROTECT THE AMBIENCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE VERY TROUBLING
TO ME.
AS A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, I HAVE SERIOUS
CONCERNS ABOUT THE CHRONIC FLOODING THAT PLAGUES SMALL
BUSINESSES AND NEIGHBORS IN PARKLAND ESTATES, PALMA CEIA
PINES AND OTHERS.
IT IS MERELY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THAT FLOODING PERMEATES
MORE TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS IF THE PROPOSED FLOOD RELIEF
PROJECT DOES NOT PROCEED.

THE FLOODING IN PARKLAND ESTATES ON SEPTEMBER 4 AND AGAIN
DURING HURRICANE MILTON, WAS PREVENTABLE.
BECAUSE HIGH-PROFILE BUSINESS OWNERS ON SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE
AND SOME NON-FLOODED RESIDENTS IN PARKLAND ESTATES SUCCEEDED
IN BLOCKING CITY COUNCIL FROM DOING THEIR JOBS BY IMPROVING
THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE, NUMEROUS FAMILIES HAVE LOST SO
MUCH.
THIS FLOODING SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTABLE.
PLEASE DON'T CONTINUE TO BE COMPLICIT IN FUTURE PREVENTABLE
FLOOD DAMAGE AND DISTRESS.
PROCEED WITH THE PROPOSED FLOODWATER RELIEF PROJECT.
THIS FLOODING PROBLEM WILL NOT JUST GO AWAY ON ITS OWN.
WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU TO TAKE ACTION AND PROTECT THE CITY OF
TAMPA RESIDENTS.
11:44:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
[ APPLAUSE ]
CARROLL ANN BENNETT, POYNOR, MENTESNOT.
11:44:16AM >> HI.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
MY HOUSE IS AT 17 FEET.
IF WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING THAT THEIR HOUSES ARE AT 21 FEET,
I WOULD LIKE TO COMPARE MY EXPERIENCE TO THEIRS.
MY STREET WAS A RIVER, BUT IT WAS A VERY FAST-MOVING RIVER
THAT DRAINED VERY EFFECTIVELY.
WE HAD NO INKLING OF ANY FLOODING BECAUSE OF THAT.

IF THEY ARE AT 21 FEET AND EXPERIENCED THE FLOODING, THERE
IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.
BECAUSE THE STORMWATER SYSTEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AT 17 FEET
WORKED WONDERFULLY.
SO THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
THE PROBLEM IS YOU'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY FIX IT.
YOU CAN'T THINK YOU'RE FIXING IT.
YOU'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY FIX IT.
$250 MILLION WAS SPENT -- WAS BUDGETED FOR STORMWATER.
THERE WAS A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ON OUR BILLS WITH THE
BONDING.
PROBABLY 500 MILLION.
A GOOD BIT OF THAT IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR MANHATTAN AND
THEY DID THAT WORK.
YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I DROVE DOWN MANHATTAN AFTER THE
STORMS, PEOPLE'S MATTRESSES AND BELONGINGS WERE AT THE
STREET BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK.
DID IT HELP?
YES HELPED.
REDUCE SOME OF THE LIGHT FLOODING, FLOODING WE EXPERIENCE
ALL THE TIME?
YES.
DID IT HELP WITH HELENE AND MILTON?
NO, IT DID NOT.
THOSE PEOPLE'S HOUSES FLOODED ANYWAY AFTER THE PROJECT

SUPPOSED TO CORRECT IT WAS DONE.
MOST IMPORTANT THING EVERYONE KNOWS AND AGREES IT'S A
PROBLEM BUT YOU'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY FIX IT.
THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY IN
PALMA CEIA PINES.
RIGHT HERE, THE CITY'S STORMWATER ENGINEER SAYS OUR PIPES
FOR THIS PROJECT WILL NOT EXTEND FURTHER NORTH THAN PARKLAND
ESTATES.
THEY'VE GOT DOCUMENTS SAYING THIS PROJECT IS STILL GOING TO
HAVE FLOODING, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED IN MANHATTAN.
WE STILL HAVE FLOODING.
THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO IS APPROVE THIS PROJECT AS IS AND
THEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN IT IS FINISHED AND TWO YEARS
AFTER THAT WHEN THEY REALIZE IT'S NOT FIXED, THEN TWO MORE
YEARS OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO FIX IT AND FIVE OR SIX MORE
YEARS OF DOING THE OTHER FIX.
IT WILL DELAY THE SOLUTION.
A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WHOSE HOUSES FLOODED WILL STILL FLOOD
AFTER THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
IF YOU HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY, SPEND MORE MONEY.
BUT FIX THE PROBLEM.
FIX IT FOR PALMA CEIA PINES.
FIX IT SO THEIR HOUSES DON'T FLOOD ANYMORE.
I THINK THIS IS A BAD PLAN, NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
NO BID DESIGN-BUILD BAD IDEA.

THERE'S GOT TO BE OTHER OPTIONS.
GOT TO BE BETTER OPTIONS THAT WILL REALLY FIX THE PROBLEM.
QUICK COMMENT ON THE TREES.
I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE
AESTHETICS OF THE TREE, THINK OF THE MONEY.
TREES SAVE MONEY.
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR IN STORMWATER AND FLOODING
DAMAGE IS PREVENTED BY THE TREES.
MATURE LIVE OAK CAPTURES OVER 35 THOUSAND GALLONS OF WATER
WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENT LIKE THIS.
SO ALL WATER THEY HAD IN THEIR HOUSE, IF THOSE TREES HAD NOT
BEEN THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD MORE WATER.
BUT YOU DON'T SEE THAT.
YOU DON'T HAVE THIS GIANT RAIN GAUGE THAT SAYS, OH, LOOK AT
ALL THE WATER THE TREES PREVENTED FROM GOING IN THEIR HOUSE.
ELIMINATING THE TREES IS A BAD IDEA.
11:47:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
POYNOR, MENTESNOT, STEVE MICHELINI.
GOOD MORNING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:47:36AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I NEED TO TAKE AND ZOOM OUT.
WHAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU IS A COPY OF THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN.
PAGE 248.

IT SAYS THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LIMITING PUBLIC
EXPENDITURES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD UNLESS IT CAN DEMONSTRATE.
AND THEN I HAVE A LITTLE BOX AROUND IT.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE HARDENING OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT TWO MONTHS AGO, THIS COUNCIL APPROVED $26 MILLION TO BE
SPENT ON A RIVERWALK.
IT VIOLATES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S IN VIOLATION OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THIS
LANGUAGE IS IN THE NEXT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT $26 MILLION SHOULD BE SPENT ON THESE PROJECTS.
I GOT BAD NEWS FOR THESE FOLKS HERE.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS, BUT THEY ARE DOING A
PROJECT IN THE SOUTH PENINSULA.
THIS IS OUR PROJECT IN THE SOUTH PENINSULA.
THE MacDILL 48.
LOOK, IT WAS APPROVED THE SAME YEAR AS THESE FOLKS' PROJECT.
I GOT AN INVITATION TO THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR NOVEMBER 12.
BUT THEIR PROJECT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
I KEEP ASKING YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THIS LITTLE THING.
BUT I CAN'T FIGURE OUT, I'M LIKE, WOW, THIS IS A NEW
PROJECT.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT IT.
IT'S ONLY BEING TALKED ABOUT NOW.
IT'S KIND OF -- UP.

I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE STORMWATER
ASSESSMENTS AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WILL SAY THIS
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, IF I'M WRONG, LET THE BUDGET
PEOPLE, LET REVENUE AND FINANCE COME TALK TO ME ABOUT IT,
BUT THIS WAS THE BIG MONEY THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF OUR
STORMWATER ASSESSMENTS AND 78% OF IT WAS SPENT ON PERSONNEL.
THEY WEREN'T LAYING IT IN FRONT OF THESE PEOPLE'S HOUSES
KEEPING WATER OUT.
[ENCODER DISCONNECT]
IT DOES, BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS, HUGE PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY
THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
ACCORDING TO -- ON THE 17th OF OCTOBER, THERE WERE 6306
HOUSES THAT WERE DESTROYED AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE.
6300.
THAT IS A LOT OF FRICKIN' PEOPLE.
I'M AMAZED WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE CITY
COMING IN HERE EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
I'M AMAZED THAT THOSE FOLKS AREN'T HERE.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE AT WORK AND THESE PEOPLE HAD TO GO
TO WORK TODAY, TOO.
YOU'VE BEEN OUT AND TALKED TO THEM.
YOU'VE MET WITH THEM.
DO THE RIGHT THING.

IT'S TIME TO RESCIND THAT CONTRACT AND DO THE RIGHT THING
WITH THAT MONEY AND FIX PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
11:50:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MENTESNOT, STEVE MICHELINI, VICTOR
DEMAIO.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:50:58AM >> MENTESNOT, MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
TAMPA, FLORIDA.
WANT TO SAY UHURU, MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
FREEDOM.
I WANT TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE PEOPLE IN
PALESTINE.
[MOMENT OF SILENCE]
BEYOND A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE, I
WANT TO HAVE A VICTORY STATEMENT FOR KAMALA HARRIS.
SHE WON THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE BECAUSE ANYBODY WHO HAD
107 DAYS TO PREPARE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP AND STILL RECEIVE
MILLIONS OF VOTES, VERY COURAGEOUS AND VERY COMMENDABLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS TEACH MY KIDS, ALL OF MY KIDS,
FROM THE OLDEST TO THE YOUNGEST, DON'T DRINK, DON'T SMOKE,
DON'T GAMBLE, DON'T BE DISHONEST, DON'T LIE, AND ALWAYS TRY
TO BE HONORABLE.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO OFF COURSE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A BET RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW.
ALTHOUGH TEACH MY KIDS, DON'T GAMBLE, NO MATTER WHAT, THAT

IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM INSIDE THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY,
GAMBLING.
NOT POLICE VIOLENCE, NOT UNEMPLOYMENT, NOT POVERTY, NOT
MISEDUCATION OR DE-EDUCATION.
GAMBLING, NOT BELIEVING IN GOD AND ALL THE STUPIDNESS THAT
GOES WITH IT, GAMBLING IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM INSIDE THE
AFRICAN COMMUNITY AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF RESTRAINT TO
STAY AWAY FROM IT.
YOU CAN WIN THIS WIN THAT, DO THIS, DO THAT, GET RICH QUICK,
ALL KIND OF GET-RICH-QUICK SCHEMES.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE A BET RIGHT NOW.
GO OUTSIDE OF MY WAY OF THINKING AND MY BELIEFS AND MAKE A
BET RIGHT NOW.
A BET IF IT FLOODS AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM, A BET THEY'LL
HAVE IT FIXED BY TOMORROW.
[ LAUGHTER ]
IF IT FLOOD AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM TONIGHT, THAT FLOODING
PROBLEM WOULD BE FIXED TOMORROW.
AND IF YOU PULL OLD VIDEOS, YOU WOULD SEE FOR 40 YEARS I'VE
BEEN COMPLAINING, FLOODING ON BAYSHORE, FLOODING IN SOUTH
TAMPA.
FLOODING AT HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY, EXCESSIVE FLOODING.
NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT IT.
THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE TO BE MORE SENSITIVE TO THE PEOPLE'S
NEEDS.

AND THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
THAT'S WHY THE PEOPLE ELECT YOU TO DO THESE THINGS.
LIKE THE PEOPLE SAY, THE RIVERWALK AND OTHER THINGS, ALL
THESE BLUE LIGHTS PUTTING ON THE RIVER, IT'S TIME FOR THAT
TO STOP.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
GOOD MORNING, MR. STEVE MICHELINI, MR. VICTOR DEMAIO,
MS. SUZANNE FERNANDEZ.
11:54:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
STEVE MICHELINI.
I SENT YOU AN E-MAIL LAST NIGHT.
THE ISSUE HERE, WE'RE PLAYING THE BLAME GAME.
THE PEOPLE IN PARKLAND ARE BLAMING THE BUSINESSES FOR
STOPPING THIS PROJECT OR BECAUSE THEY CAUSED THIS PROJECT.
EVERY NEW PROJECT, EVERY SINGLE NEW PROJECT HAS TO MEET
STORMWATER CODES.
WHEN A PROJECT COMES TO YOU, WE'VE ALWAYS NOTED YOU CANNOT
WAIVE STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS.
THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR THAT.
NEW PROJECTS HAVE TO COME IN, APPROXIMATELY 16-INCH DRAINAGE
PIPES.
THEY CONNECT TO THE CITY SYSTEM, WHICH IS A HUNDRED YEARS
OLD, AND THEY ARE 8-INCH PIPES.

SO YOU HAVE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WATER TRYING TO GET THROUGH
FROM 16 INCHES TO 8 INCHES.
ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES, PEOPLE CONTINUE TO PUT TRASH AND
DEBRIS IN FRONT OF STORMWATER INLETS.
I SEND OUT PROBABLY A DOZEN E-MAILS OVER THE LAST WEEK OR
SO, DON'T PUT TRASH OUT THERE.
DON'T PUT YOUR TREES AND LIMBS OUT THERE NEXT TO THE CURB
AND NEXT TO YOUR STORMWATER.
THEY KEEP DOING IT.
SOUTH HOWARD IS VERY NARROW.
THERE IS NO ROOM.
WE ASKED THE CITY TO CONSIDER ONE LANE SHUT DOWN, THEY SAID
NO.
THEY CAN'T DO IT.
YOU HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE STREET.
THAT DOESN'T AFFECT JUST THAT BLOCK.
IT AFFECTS THE BLOCK AHEAD OF IT.
IT AFFECTS THE BLOCKS TWO BLOCKS BEHIND IT.
YOU CAN'T GET PURVEYORS THROUGH.
YOU CAN'T GET SOLID WASTE THROUGH.
YOU CAN'T GET AMBULANCES THROUGH, FIRE TRUCKS, NOTHING, AND
THERE IS NO WALK AROUND BECAUSE THERE ARE NO PARALLEL
STREETS THAT SERVICE THE AREA.
YOU CAN SEE BASICALLY THE SOHO OVERLAY DISTRICT REQUIRES THE
BUILDINGS TO BE PUSHED UP TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE.

THERE ISN'T ANY ROOM.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A MINOR INCONVENIENCE.
IT IS A DEATH KNELL TO THE BUSINESSES.
THEY CANNOT SURVIVE.
DURING THE STORM WHEN THEY WERE SHUT OFF FOR ELECTRICITY,
SHUT OFF FOR SIX OR SEVEN DAYS, MOST OF THE BUSINESSES LOST
80% OF THE INCOME.
WE TALKED TO TECO, AND I KNOW TECO IS INVOLVED IN THIS AS
WELL.
THEY'LL RUN THE LINES UNDERGROUND ON THE STREET SIDE.
THE CONNECTION FEES ARE $300,000 PER BUSINESS OR MORE.
WHEN YOU HAVE A SYSTEM AND A STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT RELIES
ON GRAVITY SYSTEM TRYING TO GET IT TO THE BAY, WHAT HAPPENS
WITH THE SURGE?
YOUR PIPES FILL UP.
THEY CAN'T GO OUT TO THE BAY.
THEY CAN'T GO ANYWHERE.
THE MAINTENANCE, YOU HAVE STORMWATER INLETS THAT ARE UPHILL
FROM BASINS.
THAT'S TRUE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
THEY ARE UPHILL FROM WHERE THE WATER IS.
THE SAME THING IS TRUE IN NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
SERIOUS ATTENTION HAS TO BE GIVEN TO ALL OF THIS.
MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS, RECONSTRUCTION, ADDING INLETS THAT
ACTUALLY WORK WHERE THE WATER GOES.

THANK YOU.
11:57:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
VICTOR DEMAIO, SUZANNE FERNANDEZ AND JARROD DYER.
11:57:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
VICTOR DEMAIO.
MY OFFICE IS 1205 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET, SUITE 103.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING BERN'S STEAK HOUSE, EPICUREAN HOTEL
AND HAVEN.
WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF REASONS TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.
THOSE ARE THE HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES THAT BERN'S EMPLOYS,
EPICUREAN EMPLOYS AND HAVEN AS WELL.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THREE YEARS.
LAST REPORT, IT IS A FOUR-YEAR PROJECT.
THIS WOULD DESTROY OUR BUSINESS.
BERN'S HAS BEEN AROUND ABOUT 70 YEARS.
PEOPLE COME HERE TO TAMPA FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO COME TO
BERN'S ESTABLISHING HOUSE TO HAVE DINNER.
THEY STAY AT THE EPICUREAN, HAVE DINNER AT BERN'S.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE SO FAMOUS, WE HAVE THE LARGEST
PRIVATELY HELD WINE COLLECTION IN THE WORLD.
THIS IS NOT FLORIDA, U.S., THE ENTIRE WORLD.
NO ONE HAS A LARGER WINE COLLECTION.
WE HAVE OVER A MILLION BOTTLES OF WINE.
A LOT OF THAT WINE IS STORED IN A BUILDING YOU SEE WHEN YOU

COME INTO BERN'S THAT'S INCHES AWAY FROM THIS PROPOSED
PROJECT.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DON'T REALIZE IS WHEN WE BUILT THE
EPICUREAN ACROSS THE STREET, WITH HE HAD TO PUMP WATER FOR
MONTHS.
WHEN YOU START DIGGING THAT HOLE TO PUT THE 30-FOOT CULVERT,
THIS ISN'T A LITTLE PIPE.
IT IS A PIPE WE LITERALLY COULD WALK THROUGH AND STAND UP.
IT'S GOING TO FILL IN WITH WATER.
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE BUILDING INCHES AWAY THAT IS
120 YEARS OLD IF IT FALLS INTO THAT HOLE.
DOWN THE STREET, BAYSHORE ROYALE HOTEL.
THEIR RESTAURANT HAS BEEN CONDEMNED.
EVERYONE IN THE BUILDING IS FREAKING OUT, WITHOUT THE HOLE
BEING DUG, IT'S IN SERIOUS TROUBLE RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S JUST A BLOCK FROM BAYSHORE.
LIKE I SAID BY THE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY, IF YOU BUILD THIS,
SPEND $70 MILLION ON THIS NO BID CONTRACT, AND THAT WATER IS
HEADING DOWN TO BAYSHORE AND HIGH TIDE, WHERE IS THE WATER
GOING TO GO.
IT'S GOING TO COME BACK UP.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT ON THIS.
ONE OF THE LADIES HERE THAT SPOKE, SHE GAVE AN ALTERNATIVE,
WHY NOT GO DOWN MacDILL.
HOWARD, AS YOU KNOW, IS TWO WAY ROAD.

EPICUREAN, CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY, CAN'T GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT
OF THERE.
CONTRACTS WITH LARGEST AIRLINES IN THE WORLD, EVERY VISITING
HOCKEY TEAM THAT COMES TO TAMPA STAYS AT THE EPICUREAN
HOTEL.
WE WOULD LOSE ALL THAT BUSINESS.
WEDDINGS BOOKED UP NOW FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
WHAT WILL WE TELL THOSE PEOPLE?
I'M BEGGING YOU FOR AN ALTERNATIVE.
WE CAN PUT A MAN ON THE ROOM, YOU CAN SET A PIPE DOWN
MacDILL AS SOON AS YOU CAN, HOWARD.
I WOULD LOVE FOR THE COUNCIL DEMAND THAT THE ENGINEERS COME
OUT WITH ALTERNATIVE PLANS AND STUDY THIS A LITTLE BIT
HARDER.
I TALKED TO TWO MAYORS, BY THE WAY, THAT TOLD ME THEY HAD
THIS PROJECT ON THEIR DESKS YEARS AGO AND THEY TURNED IT
DOWN BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT TO DESTROY ALL THE BUSINESSES
ON HOWARD.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THE WATER TO DRAIN, THEY TOLD HER
15, 20 MINUTES.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
WE FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE FROM PARKLAND ESTATES AND --
12:00:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:00:55PM >> WE'RE SITTING HERE WILLING TO HELP AND LISTEN TO WHAT
EVERYBODY HAS TO SAY.

12:00:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SUZANNE FERNANDEZ, JARROD DYER,
ANNELIESE MEIER.
12:01:04PM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M SUZANNE FERNANDEZ.
I'VE OWNED PROPERTY IN THE PALMA CEIA PINES AREA FOR OVER 20
YEARS.
I PROVIDE HOUSING FOR OVER 30 FAMILIES.
I THINK I'M A GREAT LANDLORD, PERSONALLY.
BUT OUT OF THIS, BECAUSE OF THE RECENT FLOODING OF MILTON,
I'VE GOT 14 RESIDENTS THAT ARE HOMELESS.
THIS IS A FLOOD ZONE X, NON-EVACUATION ZONE.
AND EVERYTHING THEY HAVE IS DESTROYED.
I SPENT OVER SIX FIGURES TO DATE AND MAY BE HALFWAY THROUGH
PUTTING THEIR RESIDENCE BACK TOGETHER FOR THEM.
THESE PEOPLE HAD NO FLOOD INSURANCE.
I HAD NO FLOOD INSURANCE.
SO WHAT SCARES THE BEJESUS OUT OF ME IS YOU GUYS KEEP
KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
YOU ARE NOT STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND MAKING A REALLY
HARD DECISION ABOUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
UNTIL YOU'VE BEEN FLOODED AND PUT UP WITH THE MESS OR
LISTENED TO THE SAD STORIES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS AND
HAVE LOST EVERYTHING, YOU GOT TO GET YOUR PRIORITIES
STRAIGHT ON THIS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO.

BECAUSE IN THESE 20 YEARS, I'VE NEVER HAD FLOODING LIKE
THIS.
NINE YEARS AGO IN 2015, THERE WAS A FLOODING EVENT AT HABANA
AND HORATIO.
YOU ALL HAD NINE YEARS TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM AND NOTHING
HAS TAKEN PLACE.
THIS SUMMER, YOU WERE NOTIFIED SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE THE
WATER WAS NOW AFTER A SMALL RAINSTORM, ACCUMULATING IN THE
YARDS AND COMING UP THE BUILDING, UP ON THE SIDE OF THE
BUILDING.
AND IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME UNTIL SOMETHING HIT THE
TIPPING POINT AND THE WATER WAS GOING TO BE INSIDE.
IT SHOULDN'T COME AS A SURPRISE TO YOU.
BUT WHAT I AM DISAPPOINTED IN IS YOU HAVE NOT BROUGHT IT
UPON YOURSELVES TO MAKE THE REAL HARD DECISION TO PROCEED
WITH TAKING CARE OF THE FLOODING PROBLEMS IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:02:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
JARROD DYER.
ANNELIESE MEIER.
JACKSON.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
12:03:09PM >> JARROD DYER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I REPRESENT ONE OF THE BUSINESSES ON SOUTH HOWARD.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THE SITUATION FACED BY THE
RESIDENTS OF THE FLOODED AREAS.
ALL THEIR STORIES ARE JUST HORRIBLE.
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE.
DISRUPTION IS AN INSUFFICIENT WORD TO DESCRIBE WHAT THEY
HAVE EXPERIENCED.
AND ALSO WHAT THE BUSINESSES WOULD FACE IF THE SOUTH HOWARD
FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT MOVES FORWARD IN ITS CURRENT STATE.
LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS TO DATE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE
RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THE CULVERTS TO GO THROUGH THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF DISRUPTION, BUT THEY ARE FINE WITH
PUSHING THAT ONTO ANOTHER AREA OF THE CITY WHICH WOULD NOT
ONLY AFFECT THE BUSINESSES ALONG HOWARD AVENUE CORRIDOR BUT
ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND ALL OF THE STREETS THAT FEED INTO
THAT.
HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE INCREASED TRAFFIC FROM VENDORS
TRYING TO GET TO THE RESTAURANT, YOU CAN'T TAKE A SEMITRUCK
DOWN THOSE STREETS.
AND WE'VE HEARD SUGGESTIONS FROM THE CITY THAT WE SHOULD ASK
OUR VENDORS TO USE SMALLER TRUCKS.
THERE WAS ALSO A SUGGESTION FROM MOBILITY THAT THEY WOULD
GET GOLF CARTS TO FERRY CUSTOMERS TO THE BUSINESSES AND TO
HELP DELIVERIES.
THAT'S JUST COMPLETELY IMPLAUSIBLE AND IMPOSSIBLE.

THE ISSUE FOR US BUSINESSES ISN'T THAT WE'RE BEING
INCONVENIENCED OR THAT WE'RE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE HOMES
AND BUSINESSES IN THE FLOODED AREAS, AS ONE OF THE TV
STORIES MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT SOMEONE PLAYED, THE PROJECT
WOULD REDUCE FLOODING ON SOUTH HOWARD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE
FLOODING ON SOUTH HOWARD.
WHAT HAPPENS IS WE BEAR THE BRUNT OF ALL OF THE WORK, ALL OF
THE DISRUPTION.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN TALKED ABOUT THE STAGING OF THE EQUIPMENT TO
DO THIS KIND OF PROJECT.
WHERE DO YOU PUT IT HAS MACHINES?
DON'T DRIVE THEM AWAY AND PUT THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE HARDSHIP BUT NO UP SIDE.
THE SOUTH HOWARD BUSINESSES, OF COURSE, ARE SYMPATHETIC TO
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PARKLAND ESTATES AND PALMA CEIA PINES.
BUT WE'LL SUPPORT ANY EFFORTS BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT
A PROJECT THAT WOULD LIKELY PUT US OUT OF BUSINESS.
THAT IS THE REALITY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
BEEN THERE NEARLY 40 YEARS.
GOT THROUGH THE 2008 RECESSION.
GOT THROUGH COVID, BUT COULDN'T SURVIVE A FOUR-YEAR
DISRUPTION OF TRAFFIC ON HOWARD AVENUE.
CUSTOMERS SEE IT AS DON'T WANT TO GO ON THAT WHOLE SIDE OF
TOWN AND WOULD AFFECT EVERYONE THERE.

OH, THE FOUR BLOCK SECTION OF WHERE MY RESTAURANT IS
ACCESSIBLE NOW.
THEY GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, HOWARD AVENUE IS A MESS, I DON'T
EVEN WANT TO DEAL WITH IT.
SOMEBODY WHO COMES EVERY WEEK, THEY MAY KNOW WHAT'S GOING
ON.
PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T KNOW.
COME DOWN ONCE A MONTH, TWICE A MONTH, EVERY TIME, THEY HAVE
TO TAKE A DIFFERENT DETOUR, THEY'LL STOP COMING.
THAT MEANS WE'LL LOSE OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T LIVE
WITHOUT US MAKING MONEY.
HYPOTHETICALLY WE CAN REOPEN, WHERE ARE THOSE EMPLOYEES
GONE?
WE LOST ALL OF THEM.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:06:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANNELIESE MEIER.
VANESHA JACKSON.
DAVID ADAMS WHO WAS HERE EARLIER.
I WAS TOLD HE LEFT.
SIMMY CAMPBELL AND RYAN HAYES.
THOSE ARE THE REMAINING SPEAKERS.
HERE YOU GO.
THIS IS FOR YOU.
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

YOU MAY BEGIN YOUR THREE MINUTES.
12:07:31PM >> ANNELIESE MEIER.
GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF SLEEPLESS NIGHTS RECENTLY.
AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING PROJECT.
CITY COUNCIL ASKED STAFF TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT ROUTES AND NOT
TEAR APART A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
APPARENTLY THE CITY STAFF IGNORED YOU WITH THE REPORT COMING
LATER TODAY.
THIS PROJECT IS DESIGN-BUILD.
THIS IS BASICALLY AN OPEN CHECKBOOK BY THE CITY TO THE
CONTRACTOR.
LOOK NO FURTHER THAN TO AGENDA ITEMS 29 AND 30 TO SEE I AM
CORRECT.
THAT'S TODAY'S AGENDA.
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN WRITTEN TO CONFUSE THE PUBLIC, CONFUSE
YOU.
HAS NOT BEEN TRANSPARENT.
AND MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT FULLY.
THIS PROJECT ONLY MAKES MONEY FOR THE FIRM AWARDED THE
PROJECT.
GET THE CHECKBOOK READY.
YOUR PACKET SHOWS THE SIGN-IN SHEET FROM THE PREBID
CONFERENCE.

SINCE WHEN ARE $65 MILLION PROJECTS NON-MANDATORY TO ATTEND?
THIS MEANS STAFF MEMBERS ARE PRIVATELY TALKING TO FIRMS WHO
ARE BIDDING.
PLEASE NOTE THE FIRM THAT IS TO BE AWARDED THIS PROJECT DID
NOT ATTEND THE CONFERENCE.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE MY NAME AS THE FIRST NAME ON THERE.
DO WE HAVE TO ASK FOR PUBLIC RECORDS OF STAFF PHONE CALLS
NOW.
WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO IS VERY GOOD AT
THAT.
THIS PACKET ALSO INCLUDES THE STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT
REPORT FROM FISCAL YEAR '24.
THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT REPORT IN YOUR PACKET.
THERE IS NO LINE ITEM FOR ANY BOX CULVERT.
THIS PROJECT IS FULL OF BOX CULVERTS.
THE CITY WEBSITE CLEARLY STATES NUMEROUS CULVERTS ARE OVER
75 YEARS OLD AND NEED MAINTENANCE, YET THE BUDGET THIS YEAR
HAS NOTHING IN IT FOR MAINTENANCE.
LOOK AT THE PUMP LINE ITEM.
IT STATES PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROVIDED TO ALL 13
STORMWATER PUMP STATIONS.
THAT'S SAYING THEY DID THIS.
WE KNOW EVERY ONE OF OUR PUMP STATIONS FAILED IN THESE LAST
STORMS.
NO MAINTENANCE WAS DONE.

CLEARLY, WE ARE BEING LIED TO.
THERE ARE COMPLETED STORMWATER PROJECTS ON THE CITY WEBSITE
WHICH HAVE FAILED HORRIBLY EVEN BEFORE THE HURRICANES.
I HAVE PROVIDED ONE OF THEM IN YOUR PACKET WHICH JUST
HAPPENS TO BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.
AND IT ONLY ADDED TO THE MASSIVE FLOODING IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THESE FLOODWATERS ENTER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE NORTH,
WHICH IS PALMA CEIA PINES.
THAT ISSUE IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED WITH THIS PROJECT.
A SOLUTION THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IS THE CITY BALLPARK
BETWEEN THE OLD WINN DIXIE AND THE CROSSTOWN.
THIS IS A VERY LARGE AREA THAT COULD BE USED FOR WATER
STORAGE AND THE PARK BUILT BACK ON TOP.
THIS LINE COULD GO DOWN SWANN BOULEVARD.
THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR
WATER RUNOFF WHEN THEY EXPAND TO THREE LANES.
THERE'S PLENTY OF EASEMENT ALONG THE CROSSTOWN FOR THIS
PROJECT TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BAY.
SOME OF THE CURRENT STORMWATER DRAINS ALREADY GO TO THE
CROSSTOWN.
I DON'T HAVE THE STORMWATER MAP, BUT YOU CLEARLY CAN SEE
WHERE THE BALLPARK IS AND IT'S IN THE ASSESSMENT AREA.
12:10:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:10:42PM >> THANK YOU.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
12:10:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BENESHA JACKSON.
SIMMY CAMPBELL.
AND WE WILL CLOSE IT OUT WITH MR. RYAN HAYES FROM CAIRO AND
FRIENDS.
GOOD MORNING OR GOOD AFTERNOON.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:11:04PM >> I'M SIMMY CAMPBELL.
I WILL I HAVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES ON THE CORNER OF FOUNTAIN
AND AUDUBON.
I'VE LIVED THERE 29 YEARS.
IN THOSE 29 YEARS WITH HEAVY RAINSTORMS, ALWAYS FLOODS,
ALWAYS MULTIPLE CARS, STALLED OUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, IN
MY HOUSE UNTIL THE WATER RECEDES.
IT'S CONTINUED IN FREQUENCY TO GET WORSE.
I KNOW THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT SO MANY THINGS THAT'S INVOLVED,
BUT WITH THE RECENT IMPACT OF MILTON AND MY HOUSE BEING
COMPLETELY DESTROYED, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE THE
IMPACT IT'S HAVING ON THEIR HOMES NOW WHERE SO MUCH OF WHAT
WAS UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE IS JUST WET, ROTTED WOOD, MOLD.
IT REACHES FAR BEYOND WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
ANYWAY, I'M JUST HERE TO SUPPORT A SOLUTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS, BUT --
12:12:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

MR. HAYES.
COME ON UP.
YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:12:24PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
RYAN HAYES.
RESERVE AN ADDITIONAL 20 SECONDS.
I HAVE A VIDEO TWO MINUTES AND 12 SECONDS.
NO.
OKAY.
IS THAT ENOUGH?
IS THAT A NO?
I SAW YOUR FACIAL EXPRESSION.
12:12:43PM >> WE'VE HAD THREE MINUTES FOR EVERYBODY.
12:12:53PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:12:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LISA, CAN YOU ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT ON
THE THING?
12:13:33PM >> THE NEXT SEGMENT TALKS ABOUT OUR COMPLEMENTARY THERAPY
SERVICES WITH OUR TWO THERAPY DOGS.
I'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS TRYING TO
EXTEND A WAY OF ANY TYPE OF INNOVATING, CREATIVE WAYS THAT
POSSIBLY CAIRO AND FRIENDS COULD IMPLEMENT WITH THE CITY.
I HAVE NINE QUESTIONS.
I APOLOGIZE IF THEY MIGHT SEEM STRIKING.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE
CITY'S PERSPECTIVES.
I'M GOING TO SEND AN E-MAIL AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN
E-MAIL ME.
CAN THE CITY -- CAN THE COUNCIL CITY MEMBERS PLEASE EXPLAIN
THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF A 501(C)(3) NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATION?
DO THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CURRENTLY SUPPORT A
501(C)(3) NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT DELIVERS POSITIVE AND
MEASURABLE OUTCOMES OUTSIDE OF A RELIGIOUS ENTITY?
IF SO, WHAT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION?
CAN YOU RECALL THE LAST TIME THAT AN INDIVIDUAL ON THE
RECORD HAS STATED THAT THEY ARE A PART OF THE IMPAIRED
COMMUNITY, BESIDES MYSELF AND ACCOMPANYING MY SERVICE DOG
CAIRO.
DO YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE AGE AND THE ETHNICITY OF A PRESIDENT
FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN THE U.S.
DOES THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE AN ACTIVE PILOT OR INCUBATION
PROGRAM THAT HELPS AND ASSISTS WITH LOCAL NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATIONS?
12:15:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
CAN YOU E-MAIL US ALL THOSE QUESTIONS?
12:16:03PM >> YES, SIR.
LAST QUESTION, WHAT DO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ASK WHEN
THEY WERE RUNNING FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN TO HOLD THEIR CURRENT

SEATS?
12:16:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:16:11PM >> THANK YOU.
12:16:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SORRY.
WE HAVE AN ITEM 4.
CITY CLERK.
SIMONE SAVINO IS HERE.
SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES IS OUR CITY CLERK AND KICKS US OFF.
DOES SHE NEED TO BE HERE, MS. HARRIS?
SIMONE SAVINO, YOU ARE EXPRESSING AN INTEREST TO BEING
APPOINTED TO A POSITION ON THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION EXPRESSING
YOUR INTEREST.
I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A FORMER ATTORNEY HERE WITH THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
SO YOU'RE NO STRANGER HERE.
GO AHEAD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT.
YOU ARE THE ONLY APPLICANT FOR THIS.
12:17:01PM >> YES, GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS SIMONE SAVINO.
I AM AN ATTORNEY AND BEFORE YOU TODAY BECAUSE I'M REQUESTING
YOUR APPROVAL FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE TAMPA VARIANCE REVIEW
BOARD.
I FEEL AS IF I AM UNIQUELY SITUATED TO SERVE ON THE TAMPA
VRB IN THE ATTORNEY POSITION, BECAUSE, AS YOU STATED, I AM A
PRIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I SERVED AS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WHILE
I WAS AN EMPLOYEE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I UNDERSTAND THE CODE.
I UNDERSTAND THE STATUTES, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW THE BOARD IS
SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION PROCEDURALLY.
CURRENTLY, I'M A LAND USE ATTORNEY WORKING IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR WITH STEARNS WEAVER MILLER.
I ACTUALLY PREPARE AND HANDLE APPLICATIONS FOR VARIANCE
REVIEW BOARDS IN OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT JURISDICTIONS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
I NOW PREPARE THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS IN MY CURRENT JOB,
AND I FEEL AS IF RETURNING TO THE CITY I'M BEYOND MY TWO
YEARS OF DISTANCE.
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE ABOUT A TWO-YEAR HIATUS WHEN
LEAVING THE CITY ATTORNEY AND TAKING ON A ROLE WITH THE CITY
OR ANYWHERE WORKING WITH THE CITY.
I FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE MY EXPERIENCE
WELL.

I WILL BE ABLE TO USE MY LAND USE BACKGROUND TO SERVE THE
COMMUNITY.
AND IF APPOINTED, I LOOK FORWARD TO FULFILLING THIS CIVIC
DUTY.
12:18:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:18:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM
ANY CASE THAT COMES BEFORE YOU THAT IS FROM YOUR LAW OFFICE
IN ENTIRETY?
12:18:55PM >> YES.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT WOULD TAKE.
THERE IS A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF SCREENING THAT GOES ON, YOU
KNOW, IF I WASN'T WORKING ON SOMETHING, I REALLY WOULD
PROBABLY NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE.
BUT, YES, I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO SCREEN
MYSELF.
12:19:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST
CHOICE TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM ANYTHING FROM YOUR OFFICE
JUST PERIOD, JUST FOR THAT -- THAT WOULD BE MY BIGGEST
CONCERN.
12:19:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAD THE SAME CONCERN, CONSIDERING YOU
SAID WHO YOU WORK FOR AND THEY COME HERE OFTEN.
AND THEY ARE VERY CONNECTED.
TO AVOID ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST, AS COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK
SAID, RECUSE YOURSELF FROM ANYTHING THAT HAS YOUR FIRM'S

NAME ON IT, WHETHER YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OR NOT, BECAUSE WE
NEED A FAIR AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
12:19:43PM >> SURE.
12:19:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
SPECIAL MOTION TO APPROVE.
12:19:48PM >> SECOND.
12:19:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHE IS THE SOLE APPLICANT, CORRECT?
YES.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS?
12:19:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:19:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SORRY.
12:20:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I PREPARED THE RESOLUTION, IF THE MOTION
COULD BE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:20:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:14PM >> THANK YOU.
12:20:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT CONCLUDES THE BOARDS AND
APPOINTMENTS.

WE GO TO CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU ASKED FOR NUMBER 8 TO BE A
SEPARATE VOTE.
DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW OR UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
12:20:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M JUST PULLING IT BECAUSE I CANNOT -- I'M
NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ANY SORT OF FACIAL RECOGNITION
SOFTWARE.
IT'S NO AT PROVEN.
A.I. REALLY CONCERNS ME.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARRESTED AND CONVICTED FOR THINGS
THAT WEREN'T ACTUALLY THEM.
I DON'T HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL WITH THIS.
I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO VOTE NO.
12:20:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THIS IS YOUR
COMMITTEE, SIR.
12:20:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET ME DO 5 THROUGH 7 AND 9 THROUGH 15.
12:20:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
SEPARATE VOTE ON 8.
12:21:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE 8.
12:21:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:21:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.

12:21:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
12:21:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:21:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:21:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:21:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
12:21:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
12:21:21PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN AND HURTAK VOTING
NO --
12:21:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MANISCALCO IS A NO.
12:21:26PM >>THE CLERK:
I'M SORRY.
AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
12:21:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
-- BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION.
12:21:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
TALKING ABOUT IT AFTER THE VOTE.
12:21:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M STILL SAYING NO, BUT I'M GLAD SHE
BROUGHT THIS UP.
12:21:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IF YOU SAY THAT, I'LL SAY THIS.
I SPOKE TO CHIEF BERCAW ABOUT IT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS $27,000,
IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THE WAY THAT WE USE IT AND THE
TRAINED STAFF THAT DOES USE IT IS THE REASON WHY I AM
SUPPORTING IT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
12:21:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU HAVE 16 THROUGH 28.
12:22:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, FOR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I MOVE ITEMS 16 THROUGH 28 FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
AFFAIRS.

12:22:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
12:22:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION BEFORE -- WELL, NO, I
MEAN, I JUST -- I ASKED THIS AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN
ANSWER, WHY 19, 20, 21, AND 22 ARE POST-SPECIAL EVENT
PERMITS.
12:22:31PM >> IS IT BECAUSE OF THE STORM?
12:22:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I NEVER GOT AN ANSWER.
I WANT TO PUT THAT FORWARD TO SAY I NEVER GOT AN ANSWER WHY
WE ALLOWED THESE TO GO FORWARD WITHOUT PROPER PERMITS.
12:22:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ONE HAPPENED ACTUALLY YESTERDAY.
12:22:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO KNOW AN ANSWER.
12:22:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ON THE ITEMS 19, 20, 21 AND 22, THEY
HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED.
WAS IT BECAUSE OF THE CANCELLATION FROM THE STORM OR
POSTPONEMENT?
DO YOU KNOW THE REASON FOR THIS?
12:23:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW THE REASON FOR
THAT.
12:23:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHY DON'T WE JUST HOLD THOSE -- SEPARATE
THEM AND HOLD THEM UNTIL ADMIN REPORT LATER.
12:23:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE ALREADY VOTED.

12:23:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DIDN'T VOTE.
I DIDN'T SAY YES BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION.
12:23:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECONSIDER THEN?
12:23:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, WE
DID CANCEL TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
12:23:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, I JUST WANT AN ANSWER.
I'M NOT SAYING I'LL VOTE NO.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY.
12:23:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE BEFORE THEY
SPEAK, BUT, YOU KNOW.
THAT'S JUST ME.
12:23:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
12:23:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S DO 16 THROUGH 18.
12:23:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT'S MY MOTION.
12:23:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WAS SAYING 16 THROUGH 18 AND THEN 23
TO 28, WE APPROVE THEM NOW.
BUT 19, 20, 21 AND 22 WE HOLD UNTIL ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS.
12:24:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THESE EVENTS HAVE
ALREADY OCCURRED, FOR THE RECORD.
WHY CAN'T WE JUST MOVE ALL OF THEM AND THEN ASK FOR AN
EXPLANATION FROM STAFF BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAPPENED?
12:24:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE
HURRICANE, IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO CITY COUNCIL.
AS SAID EARLIER, HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE.
IT'S WORTH GIVING THEM A CHANCE TO SAY WHATEVER THEY ARE

GOING TO SAY.
WE MAY APPROVE IT ANYWAY.
LET THEM HAVE A CHANCE TO ANSWER.
12:24:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:24:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ARE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE,
COUNCIL MEMBER.
12:24:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I MOVE THAT WE JUST ACCEPT ALL OF THE
COMMITTEE REPORTS AND THEN ALLOW STAFF TO ADDRESS THE FACT
THAT WE CANCELED TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WHICH IS WHY THIS
WAS NOT APPROVED.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS FOR
A ROCK THE VOTE CAMPAIGN FOR A VOTE THAT TOOK PLACE TWO DAYS
AGO.
THE ALZHEIMER'S WALK.
IT'S COMMON SENSE IN A SENSE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT WAS A WALK FOR ALZHEIMER'S AND THE ROCK THE VOTE ON
HARRIS STREET.
AND THEN TAMPA -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
TWO ARE ALREADY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO THROUGH A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES
FOR SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT WE WOULD APPROVE ANYWAY.
12:25:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:25:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I DON'T SEE IT AS STAFF BEING RESPECTFUL.
WE HAD TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS CANCELED BECAUSE OF

HURRICANE HELENE AND HURRICANE MILTON.
12:25:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE MOTION STILL STANDS --
12:25:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I MOVE ALL OF THESE.
12:25:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, I CONCUR WITH WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS COMMON SENSE BUT I ALSO THINK IT IS
KIND OF WEIRD FOR US TAKING LEGISLATIVE ACTION ON FOUR ITEMS
THAT ALREADY OCCURRED.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER THAT AND SAY LET'S JUST HOLD
KNOWING WE'LL HAVE EXPLANATION, HOLD 19 THROUGH 22 TO MAKE
IT A CLEAN OPERATION.
WE CAN ASK STAFF.
I'M SURE THIS WILL BE NO DRAMA.
12:26:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT'S DRAMA NOW.
12:26:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.
MOVE IT AND BE DONE.
MOVE EVERYTHING BUT 19 THROUGH 22.
12:26:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAVE THE MOTION BEFORE YOU -- WHO IS
THE SECOND?
12:26:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON TO MOVE ALL ITEMS.
COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS THE SECOND.
12:26:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT ANYONE.
I MEAN, LOOK I'M FINE WITH HOLDING IT SO LONG AS WE DON'T
TAKE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES ON THIS THING.
12:26:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
100%.

12:26:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M FINE WITH HOLDING.
LET'S NOT STRETCH A SINGLE INTO A HOME RUN.
12:26:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOME RUN TO A SINGLE.
12:26:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO AMEND STRIKING 19 THROUGH 22 TO
HOLD FOR STAFF COMMENTARY --
12:26:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE --
12:26:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOT A SUBSTITUTE.
MOTION TO AMEND.
12:26:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AMENDMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
12:27:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NAY.
12:27:05PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO.
12:27:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOW THAT MOTION.
12:27:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK I INCORPORATED IT ALL IN THE
AMENDMENT.
AMENDED BY APPROVING EVERYTHING BUT 19 THROUGH 22 AND
HOLDING FOUR ITEMS FOR STAFF.
12:27:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE AMENDED MOTION IS NOW ON THE FLOOR.
12:27:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE THE AMENDED MOTION.
12:27:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE ANY OPPOSED?
12:27:37PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO.
12:27:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:27:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEMS 29 AND 30 AND 32 THROUGH 37.
12:27:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:27:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE FINANCE COMMITTEE 38 THROUGH 41.
12:27:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU HAVE --
12:28:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 42 THROUGH 46.
12:28:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:28:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE ITEMS 47 THROUGH 54.
12:28:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND

SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
55 AND 56 NEED TO BE SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING, FEBRUARY 6,
2025, AT 1:30 AND NOVEMBER 21, 2024, AT 5:01 P.M.
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
33602.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
ANY OPPOSED?
WE ARE NOW IN RECESS UNTIL 2.
2 P.M. TODAY.
[LUNCH RECESS]

02:08:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL.
02:08:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
02:08:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
02:08:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
02:08:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
02:08:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
02:08:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
02:08:15PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
MAY I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ALL OF THEM.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT, WAS HE MENTIONED EARLIER WE WILL GO TO ITEM 36
AND 64.
WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM THE AIR FORCE BASE -- YES, MA'AM, START
WITH ITEM NUMBER 63.
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
02:08:40PM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
GOOD AFTERNOON, REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE SECOND READING -- SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PINEWOOD DEVELOPMENT.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REVISED BASED ON
DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND MacDILL AIR FORCE
BASE.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE DEVELOPER, AND MISS FEELEY
WILL GO INTO THIS IN MORE DETAIL.
BUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REVISED TO SUBSTITUTE
THE SITE PLAN FOR WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
THIS TAKES THE -- SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PARKING AREA AND
SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN WHAT IS NOW THE GREENWAY AND TRAIL
HEAD.
IT TAKES THAT OUT OF THE CLEAR ZONE.
SO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE REVISED A SITE PLAN.
AND WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED THAT -- THAT BECAUSE -- BECAUSE
THESE REVISIONS, WE NOW NEED TO RESURVEY WHAT WOULD BE THE
GREENWAY PARCEL AND THE PARK PARCEL.
DOES NOT AFFECT THE OVERALL BOUNDARY OF THE CITY PARCEL BUT
AFFECTS THAT DIVISION NOW.
SO WE PROVIDED THAT THE DEVELOP WILL OBTAIN SURVEYS AND
LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS THOSE TWO PARCELS AND WE WILL SUBSTITUTE
THAT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THE DEVELOPER AND MISS FEELEY ARE HERE.
02:09:59PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM
ADMINISTRATOR OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
WHEN THIS MATTER LEFT OFF, THE DIRECTION WAS FOR THE
DEVELOPER TO MEET WITH MacDILL TO TRY TO WORK OUT SOME OF
THE MATTERS THAT WERE RAISED IN RELATION TO THE CLEAR ZONE
AND MacDILL'S DESIRE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.
THAT MEETING JUST HAPPENED THIS WEEK.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS A SUBSEQUENT MEETING AFTER THEY AGREED
TO THE CHANGES OUT IN THE FIELD YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
SOME WHAT WENT INTO SIRE WENT IN YESTERDAY.
AND I AM JUST HERE TO SAY IF THERE IS AN ISSUES WITH THAT OR
ANYBODY DOESN'T FEEL THERE IS ADEQUATE TIME TO REVIEW IT, IT
WOULD BE AT THE PRESSURE OF COUNCIL TO THAN AGAIN, BUT I AM
GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TRUE C YET AND LET HIM GO OVER WHAT
THE CHANGES WERE AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND PLEASURE OF
COUNCIL AFTER THAT PRESENTATION.
02:10:57PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, TRUETT GARDNER, PLEASED TO BE WITH MY
CLIENT, BRIAN FUNK AND THE GOOD PEOPLE OF THE BASE.
AS ABBYE ALLUDED TO, WE MET WITH THEM OCTOBER 28 ON BASE, AND
PLEASED TO INTRODUCE A COMPROMISE -- NOT TO PUT WORDS THIS
THEIR MOUTH THAT WE ARE HAPPY WITH, THAT THEY ARE HAPPY
WITH.
IF WE GO TO THE ELMO AND RUN THROUGH IN THE FROM OF TIME.
WHAT WE DISCOVERED THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM THAT
WERE SPIRITED AND POSITIVE, WHAT THE BIG ISSUES WERE AND
WHAT THE RESOLUTIONS ARE FOR EACH ONE.
FIRST, THEY WANTED THE DESIGN TO BE MORE OF A GREENWAY,
TRAIL HEAD AND LESS OF A PARK.
THE PADS HAVE BEEN CHANGED WHERE THEY ARE RUNNING DIRECTLY
FROM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
NORTHEAST CORNER TO SOUTHWEST CORNER.
SOME THAT WAS THE CHANGE THERE.
SECONDLY, FULL RECALL, THERE WAS A LARGE CONTIGUOUS SPACE.
THEY WANTED TO MINIMIZE THE ABILITY FOR LARGE GATHERING.
SO BY REDOING THE TRAIL THIS WAY, THAT BIFURCATES THAT
SPACE.
SO THAT WAS A BIG CHANGE TOO.
CHANGE THREE.
THEY WANTED THE ACCESS ON MARCUM WHICH ALIGNED -- IF YOU
LOOK ON THE PURPLE SIDE, PREVIOUSLY ALIGNED STRAIGHT WITH
THE INGRESS, EGRESS POINT ON PINEWOOD DOWN IN MARCUM.
THEY WANTED THAT AS FAR WEST AS POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE THEIR
EFFECT ON THE CLEAR SCENE WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS SLID
OVER.
NOT THE OPTIMAL TRAFFIC FLOW FOR MY CLIENT, BUT IT IS
SOMETHING THAT HE CAN LIVE WITH AND WANTED TO COMPROMISE
FOR.
THIRD, THEY WANTED A REDUCTION IN PARKING AND AS MUCH
PARKING REMOVED OUT OF THE CLEAR ZONE IF POSSIBLE.
THAT IS THE REDESIGN NOW.
IF YOU REMEMBER BEFORE, IT WAS JUST A STRAIGHT NORTH-SOUTH
LINE WHERE GREEN BECOMES PURPLE.
AND THE BOOT, ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE AND LESS PARKING.
FROM THE CITY ELSE STANDPOINT, EVERYTHING YOU SEE -- I WILL
CALL THAT ORANGE -- ARE CITY SPACES.
SO THEY LOST -- THE CITY LOST A COUPLE OF SPACES WHICH THEY
CAN LIVE WITH.
MR. FUNK LOST THE MOST AMOUNT OF SPACES, BUT HE IS FINE WITH
THAT AS WELL.
SO THOSE WERE THE BIG COMPROMISES.
THE OPEN ITEMS THAT I WILL JUST SAY WILL BE TABLED FOR
ANOTHER TIME AND WE TALKED TO THE BASE ABOUT THIS AND THEY
CAN OPINE ON THIS AS WELL ARE BENCHES.
IDEALLY HAVING THOSE OUT OF THE CLEAR ZONE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF SEATING IF SOMEBODY
GETS A PEBBLE IN THEIR SHOE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
AND ALSO SOME SORT OF LIGHTING.
THEY HAD CONCERN OF LIGHTING AND PLANES, BUT THE CITY AND
MR. FUNK ALSO WANTS TO MAKE SURE IT IS A SAFE ENVIRONMENT
FOR PEOPLE USING THE GREENWAY AND TRAILHEAD.
SOME WE AGREED TO FIND SOME SORT OF SOLUTION THAT WE FEEL
CONFIDENT WE WILL IN THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS
SET UP NOT THE FINAL DESIGN AND SO THERE IS TIME FOR THAT.
PLEASED TO BRING THAT IN FRONT OF YOU.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM THE BASE HERE AS WELL.
02:14:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THE AIR FORCE BASE.
SIR, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP.
STATE YOUR NAME.
02:14:13PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, TONY RODRIGUEZ THE PORTFOLIO OPTIMIZATION
MANAGER WITH THE SQUADRON AT MacDILL AIR FORCE
BASE.
WE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE AND THEY ADJUSTED
THEIR SITE PLAN ACCORDINGLY AND WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS WITH
THIS CURRENT SITE PLAN.
02:14:35PM >> THANK YOU.
02:14:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
THIS ITEM?
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:14:47PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN THESE PLANS.
NICE TO THEY SHARED IT.
EVERYBODY HERE HAT MY E-MAIL.
I AM GOOD WITH THE REDUCTION IN PARKING.
I THINK IT IS RUDE TO LEAVE THE NEIGHBORS OUT, BUT OTHER
THAN THAT, I DO APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE MADE AN AMENDMENT TO
THE PROCESS.
AND IT IS COMING FORWARD THAT EVERYBODY WILL GET
NOTIFICATION FOR THESE KIND OF DEALS GOING FORWARD AND IT IS
VERY IMPORTANT AND YOU APPRECIATE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT NEIGHBORHOODS
WILL BE NOTIFIED FROM NOW ON I AM GOOD WITH THE REDUCTION OF
PARKING.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE NORTH AND SOUTH PARKING GONE BECAUSE
IT WAS -- WE DIDN'T LIKE IT TO START WITH.
AND WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE MORE TREES.
THANK YOU.
02:15:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GREAT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
[INAUDIBLE]
02:15:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
-- FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE TO MAKE SURE BOTH
SIDES ARE NOT HAPPY AND KIND OF MAKES THEM HAPPY AND DOWN
THE MIDDLE WHEN YOU MAKE BOTH SIDES UNHAPPY, GUESS WHAT,
THINGS GET DONE.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
AND I KNOW IT WILL BE A NICE PROBABLY FOR THE CITY AROUND
CERTAINLY FOR THE DEVELOPER AND MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:15:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY REBUTTAL?
02:16:00PM >> TRUETT GARDNER.
MISS POYNOR, WE DID NOT LEAVE HER OUT.
THAT MEETING GETS SENT TO CIVIL ENGINEERS, LANDSCAPE
ARCHITECTS.
SO NOT AN INTENTION TO LEAVE HER OUT.
THINGS WERE JUST HAPPENING THAT QUICKLY.
I THINK WE GOT THE FINAL VERSION YESTERDAY AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN THAT WAS -- YOU KNOW, SUBMITTED TO THE SMILE AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.
I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
02:16:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
02:16:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IN LIGHT OF OF HURRICANES, I THINK YOU
DID GOOD AND I AM GLAD YOU ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
02:16:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOTION CLOSE.
02:16:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:16:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WOULD LIKE TO MOVE.
THE SUBSTITUTE.
02:16:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
02:16:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ITEM NUMBER 64.
NOTHING TO ADD, CORRECT?
A MOTION TO 64, SECOND FROM -- DON'T NEED TO CLOSE -- A
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR 64.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED -- SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S SEE.
WHERE ARE WE AT NOW.
WE MOVED TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THESE ARE NONQUASI-JUDICIAL FOR THE FIRST VIEW.
ITEM 57, WE HAVE A SECOND READING HERE.
MR.MASSEY.
02:17:42PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YES, SIR, MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
SECOND READING FOR ORDINANCES PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL
OFFICIALLY RENAMING THE BRICKYARD PLAZA BETWEEN THIS
BUILDING AND -- AND THE MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING AFTER
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:17:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHARLIE MIRANDA HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.
02:18:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE TO ABSTAIN.
02:18:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON
ITEM 57.
A MOTION FROM CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:18:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO IT.
DO IT.
02:18:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:18:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S SEE HERE.
I HEARBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENT BY SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, THE
NAMING OF THE BRICK PLAZA AND COURTYARD BETWEEN OLD CITY
HALL AND TAMPA MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING AS CHARLIE MIRANDA
PLAZA IN HONOR OF COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA IN HIS ALMOST
30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND CITIZENS AS
MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY LEADER PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
OH, DEAR LORD.
I SHOULD KNOW WHAT THAT IS AS OF OCTOBER 23, 2024.
02:19:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION.
02:19:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
02:19:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I ABSTAINED ALREADY.
I VOTE NO.
[LAUGHTER]
STILL PASSES.
02:19:22PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
02:19:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 58.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:19:31PM >>MARCY HAMILTON:
MARCY HAMILTON, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
ON ITEM 58, A SECOND READING TO ENACT A PURCHASING ORDINANCE
EXCEPTION 2-286 FOR ANY CONTRACT FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OR
ANY OTHER PURCHASES OVER $5 MILLION.
THIS WAS A MOTION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT BY CITY
COUNCIL.
02:19:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
02:19:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:20:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:20:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, MIND READING 58.
02:20:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, SIR -- LET ME PASS TO MR. CARLSON,
HIS ORIGINAL MOTION.
02:20:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
58.
02:20:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE FILE NUMBER E-2024-8-CH 2.
ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE V, DIVISION
3, PURCHASES AND CONTRACTS BY ENACTING SECTION 22-286, THREE
BID REQUIREMENT FOR THE -- FOR PURCHASE -- SORRY FOR
CONTRACTS FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR OTHER PURCHASES
EXCEEDING $5 MILLION PROCEED WILLING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCE AND CONFLICT THEREWITH.
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:20:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:21:01PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:21:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 59.
02:21:08PM >>MARCY HAMILTON:
MARCY HAMILTON, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
THIS WAS ANOTHER MOTION PRESENTED BY COUNCIL.
THIS IS PURCHASING ORDINANCE TO ENACT 287 OF COOPERATIVE
PURCHASES BETTER KNOWN AS PIGGYBACKS THAT YOU REQUESTED WE
PROVIDE BACKGROUND INFORMATION REGARDING WHY WE WANT TO USE
THE PIGGYBACK.
02:21:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 59.
02:21:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE.
02:21:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:21:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON.
WOULD YOU MIND READING 59?
02:21:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I HAVE MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2024-8 CHAPTER 22,
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
THE CITY OF TAMPA AMENDING CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE V, DIVISION 3,
PURCHASES AND CONTRACTS BY ENACTING SECTION 2-287 WITH USE
OF OTHER COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS AND PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
ORDINANCES AND ALL ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND
PROVIDE WILLING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:22:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:22:32PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:22:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 60.
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
02:22:38PM >>McLANE EVANS:
McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
THE FIRST OF TWO SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING OF BROWNFIELD
LOCATED IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 230 EAST HILLSBOROUGH
AVENUE.
THE AREA PROPOSED OF BROWNFIELD IS LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA AND
APPROXIMATELY 13.24 ACRES IN SIZE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER RICHMOND HILLS LIMITED HAS REQUESTED THIS
DESIGNATION AND PLANS TO REDEVELOP INTO 356 AFFORDABLE
HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 120% OR LESS
OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS A FINANCIAL PARTNER IN THIS PROJECT
CONTRIBUTING $12 MILLION IN FURTHERANCE OF THIS EFFORT TO
MAKE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE.
DETAILS OF THIS DESIGNATION ARE IN ANSWER TITLED STAFF
REPORT OF BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW
BOTH IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND ONLINE THROUGH ON-BASE.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH
SCHEDULED NOVEMBER 21, 2024 AT 5:01 OR SOON HAD THEREAFTER.
COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PASS THE RESOLUTION OF IT
FOR USE IN THE BROWNFIELD AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE REMOTELY IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
02:24:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:24:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS THE FUN LAND PROPERTY?
02:24:06PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
02:24:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE DRIVE BY THERE ALL THE TIME.
THAT SUCKER IS GOING.
MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE DOING IT NOW BEFORE THE
CONSTRUCTION BEGAN?
02:24:20PM >> IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE?
THE STATUTE DOES ALLOW FOR -- AS LONG AS THEY ARE DESIGNATED
BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY CAN APPLY FOR EVERYTHING.
02:24:31PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WHAT McLANE JUST SAID.
MY UNDERSTANDING -- WHO IS ON LINE, KENNY -- BRETT?
02:24:40PM >> BRETT.
02:24:40PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WHAT THEY DO IS ONCE THEY GET THEIR
DESIGNATION, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A CREDIT THROUGH OTHER
FINANCING AND WHY THEY ARE DOING IT NOW.
THEY HAVE DONE THE WORK IT REMEDIATE THE SITE.
WHEN I SAW -- THE REPORT COME ACROSS TOO, THAT IS WHEN I
REACHED OUT TO McLANE AND I SAID REMEMBER WE ARE INVESTING
-- THIS IS THE FUN LAND PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT THAT
THE IN THE REPORT TOO.
I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU WOULDN'T SEE ME ON A
BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION.
02:25:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT.
THEY KNOW THE FUN LAND SITE.
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY --
02:25:18PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THE IMPRESSION.
02:25:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EVEN THE SLIGHTEST IMPRESSION WE ARE DOING
ANYTHING THAT WOULD IMPACT FOLKS TO ARE GOING TO LIVE IN
THIS PROPERTY.
THANK YOU.
02:25:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY -- DO YOU NEED TO ADD ANYTHING, BRETT?
02:25:35PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:25:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR?
02:25:40PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON I'M FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAW FIRM 2100
IN CORAL GABLES.
AND REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD OTHER THAN TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUEST AND FOR THE CITY'S SUPPORT OF
THIS PROJECT.
AND AS MENTIONED THIS DESIGNATION WILL HELP THE APPLICANT
RECOUP COSTS WITH EXCAVATING AND COMPOSING CONTAMINATED SOIL
FROM HISTORICAL USERS OF THE SITE.
02:26:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:26:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT A BROWNFIELD
IS.
SOMEBODY WHO HEARS DOUSE THIS THEY MAY THINK YOU NOW TURN IT
INTO A BROWNFIELD.
YOU SAID THIS BEFORE AND CAN YOU STATE AGAIN -- I WILL PUT
WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
THE PURPOSE FOR GETTING REBATES OR GRANTS RELATED TO
CLEANING UP.
AND THEY ALREADY CLEANED IT UP.
02:26:33PM >> CORRECT, McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
A STATUE REFERENCED TO AS THE BROWNFIELD ACT.
PARTIES -- THE NONCONTAMINATING PARTY.
IF YOU CONTAMINATED IT, YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE.
IF YOU COME UNTIL AND WANT TO DEVELOP A SITE AND PREVIOUS
CONTAMINATION AND YOU PAID TO CLEAN IT UP, YOU CAN APPLY FOR
A BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION WHICH IS THE VERY FIRST STEP IN
ENTERING INTO THE BROWNFIELD PROGRAM.
ONLY PART OF THE MUNICIPALITY -- AND THE CITY OF TAMPA,
SIMPLY THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS OF SAYING, YES, THEY MEET
THE CRITERIA TO BE CATEGORIZED AS A BROWNFIELD, SO,
THEREFORE, WE BRING FORTH THE APPLICATION FOR COUNCIL'S
CONSIDERATION WHETHER OR NOT TO DESIGNATE IT.
AFTER THAT, THE APPLICANT AND DEVELOPER GO BACK TO THE STATE
TO MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT THE PLAN IS AND WHAT THEY WILL DO
AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
IN THIS CASE, THE DEVELOPER LIKELY DID THAT AHEAD OF TIME
BEFORE THE DESIGNATION WHICH IS ALLOWED.
02:27:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 60?
02:27:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:27:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:27:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM NOVEMBER 21, 2024
AT 5:01 P.M.
315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062.
UNITED STATES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HENDERSON NORTH AMERICA.
02:28:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. CHAIR IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION AFTER
PUBLIC HEARING AND BREAK, WE HAD A NOTICE ISSUE ON ITEM 61
AND 62.
I GOT TWO MOTIONS TO CURE THOSE.
I MOVE TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING -- THIS IS FOR ITEM 16.
I MOVE TO HAVE SET A PUBLIC HEARING DECEMBER 5, 2024 AT
10:30 A.M. OR SOON THEREAFTER IN CITY COUNCIL'S CHAMBER 315
E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062 BROWNFIELD
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 376 FLORIDA STATUTE FOR PROPERTY
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE EAST YBOR AREA WITH 0.51 ACRES IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.
02:28:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. SHELBY, I KNOW THERE IS A GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE.
02:29:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO NOTE.
IS THIS ISSUE RESOLVED THEN?
I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS MOTION.
02:29:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY.
02:29:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW THE BACKGROUND OF IT.
02:29:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL BRIEF YOU.
02:29:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DOES THE GENTLEMAN WANT TO COME UP AND
SPEAK?
02:29:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SIR, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY?
02:29:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME ON UP.
WE NEED TO GET YOU AT THE FRONT WITH THE MICROPHONE.
02:29:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN.
I WILL FIND OUT WHAT'S WHAT.
02:29:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS RESCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
02:29:34PM >> MATTHEW RADDACK -- JUST INFORMED AND THAT THE REAL
MEETING WOULD BE DECEMBER 5, SO I CAN MAKE MY COMMENTS THEN
IF I HAVE ANY MORE, CORRECT?
02:29:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S CORRECT.
I WANT TO CLARIFY, THIS IS A MOTION FOR COUNCIL TO SET THE
PUBLIC HEARING BUT STILL REQUIRES IT TO BE NOTICED AGAIN, IS
THAT CORRECT?
THIS IS NOT A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THIS GENTLEMAN BEING WITHIN 00 FEET SHOULD BE RECEIVING
-- NO?
MAYBE I NEED -- SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED THAT THE
PUBLIC MIGHT WANT TO KNOW.
02:30:04PM >>McLANE EVANS:
McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
SO THERE WAS CONFUSION IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
HE BELIEVE HE MUST HAVE BEEN REFERENCING CITY AND WILL USE
NOTICING REQUIREMENTS.
THE BROWNFIELD ACTS STATUTORY PROCESS THROUGH CHAPTER 166 OF
FLORIDA STATUTES.
NO INDIVIDUAL MAILER AS PART OF THAT NOTICE.
THE REASON 62 AND 63 WERE MISNOTICED PUBLISHED ON NOVEMBER 1
AND IT NEEDS TO BE PUBLISHED AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS BEFORE THE
FIRST MEETING AND THE INTENT WAS TODAY TO BE THE FIRST
MEETING AND WE ONLY NOTICE IT SIX DAYS IN ADVANCE.
AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, WE WOULD LIKE THE ALREADY
ANNOUNCED AND NOTICE EVENING NOVEMBER 1 AT 5:01 P.M. OR SOON
THEREFORE TO BE THE FIRST MEETING NOW.
AND THE SECOND MEETING WILL BE THE DAYTIME MEETING THAT
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN JUST MADE THE MOTION FOR IF COUNCIL
AGREES DECEMBER 5 AT 10:30 A.M.
TODAY IS NOT A HEARING.
02:31:14PM >> THIS IS JUST SETTING IT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:31:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM CONFUSED FIRST MEETING IS NOT THE 5th
BUT 1st?
02:31:28PM >> CORRECT, COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ANNOUNCED AND NOTICED TODAY
AND NOVEMBER 21.
THE STATUTE REQUIRES HEARINGS, ONE NIGHTTIME, ONE DAYTIME.
WE WILL KEEP THE 21st.
02:31:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST SO THE PUBLIC -- THE GENTLEMAN KNOWS.
02:31:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN ONE LAST THING.
DOES THE -- DOES THE DECEMBER 5 DATE NEED TO BE RETEASED OR
NO?
02:31:53PM >> THE DECEMBER 5th DATE WILL NEED TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE
PAPER BUT NO MAILERS WILL BE AGAIN BECAUSE NOT PART OF THE
BROWNFIELD'S NOTIFICATION PROCESS.
IT IS THE SIGNAGE ON THE PROPERTY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE
BECAUSE ALREADY OWNED PROPERTY ON-SITE OR CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.
IN AUGUST, THERE WAS A PUBLIC MEETING.
SO -- BUT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THERE NEEDS TO BE TWO
HEARINGS, THE 1 SOCIAL SECURITY OF NOVEMBER WILL BE THE
FIRST AND IF COUNCIL APPROVES DECEMBER 5th WILL BE THE
SECOND.
02:32:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME.
ARE YOU COMFORT WHAT THE BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION IS AND STAFF
IS ABLE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT WITH YOU?
02:32:38PM >> YES, SIR.
THAT WILL GIVE ME A LITTLE BELT MORE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT IT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
02:32:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
ITEM 26, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:32:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 26, SAME ISSUE.
TO CURE ITEM 26, MOVE A PUBLIC HEARING DECEMBER 5, 2024 AT
10:30 OR SOON THEREAFTER AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062 FOR PROPOSED DESIGNATION
FOR REHAB TAILINGS FLORIDA STATUTE FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY
LOCATED 813 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE 0.49 ACRES IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA.
02:33:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN IS THE MOTION.
SECOND BE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE MOVED TO OPEN THEM AND REQUEST TO WITHDRAW 55 AND 56.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
02:33:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
56 AND 66?
02:33:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
ITEM NUMBER 67.
A FIRST READING, YES, MA'AM.
02:33:48PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA
PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
ITEM NUMBER 67 IS AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING TO REPEAL CODE SECTION 18-8, WHICH IS REGARDING THE
CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
ON JUNE 6, 2024, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT GAVE A PRESENTATION ON
HOUSE BILL 601 THAT IMPACTS THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
AFTER THE PRESENTATION, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A MOTION FOR
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE AN ORDER REPEALING CODE
SECTION 18-8 THAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT
BE FROM MR. ALBERT COOK, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE NEWLY
ENACTED CHIEFS ADVISORY COUNCIL FROM CHIEF BERCAW.
WE HAVE ALSO HERE WITH ME MIKE SCHMID, THE LEGAL ADVISOR FOR
THAT COUNCIL IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
BUT THE UPDATED INFORMATION WITH HOW THE CITY HAS REACTED AS
-- IN REGARDS TO AND RESULT OF HOUSE BILL 061.
I WOULD ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ON
FIRST READING.
02:34:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
MR. SCHMID, ANYTHING YOU NEED TO ADD?
NO.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 57?
A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:35:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CLOSE IT.
02:35:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
READ ITEM 67.
02:35:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL.
I MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2024-8, CHAPTER EVERY 18 ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, REPEALING THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE
OF ORDINANCES SECTION 18-8, CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD FOR THE
CITY FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY.
PROCEEDING FOR APPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:35:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:35:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WAS CLEARLY STATED EVEN BY THE PERSON WHO
SPONSORED THE BILL, NO BOARDS WOULD HAVE TO BE CLOSED.
WE ARE NOT CLOSING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, BUT BECAUSE WE WANT
TO.
THIS IS MY OPINION AND WHAT I READ FOUND OUT.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO CLOSE IT.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO, IT IS ON YOU.
I AM VOTING NO.
02:36:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:36:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
INITIALLY I SUPPORTED IT AND I AM GOING TO
VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH THE LEGAL OPINIONS.
I GOTTEN SEVERAL LEGAL OPINIONS AND IT APPEARS WE DO NOT
NEED TO VOTE ON DO THIS.
FOR THE PUBLIC THERE ARE MOST LIKELY WILL BE REPEALED AND
WON'T BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
I WAS AN ACTIVIST IN 2015 WHEN BIKING WHILE BLACK CAME OUT.
AND WHAT HAPPENED AT THE TIME 22 CIVIL RIGHTS GROUP CAME
TOGETHER AND PROTESTED THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION FOR
ESSENTIALLY RACIST POLICIES INSIDE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THAT POLICY AND THE SUBSEQUENT ONE THAT THE TAMPA BAY TIMES
RENTING WHILE BLACK RESULTED IN THE UNITED STATES JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE RENTING WHILE BLACK INVESTIGATION BY
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS STILL GOING ON.
THE CRB -- FOR ANY OF THE ACTIVISTS -- THE CRB WAS NOT MEANT
TO POLICE THE POLICE, IT IS MEANT AS A REACTION TO CONTROL
AN ADMINISTRATION THAT CREATED RACIST POLICIES.
SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT
WILL PREVENT FUTURE ADMINISTRATIONS FROM DOING THAT.
WE WILL NOT HAVE RACIST POLICIES IN THE CITY.
A BEG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ENFORCING THE LAW.
WE NEED TO STAND BEHIND OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
AND WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR LAWS, BUT WE SHOULD NOT CREATE
POLICIES THAT INTENTIONALLY DISCRIMINATE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF
THEIR RACE.
THANK YOU.
02:37:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
YOUR MICROPHONE.
02:38:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST FOR CLARITY OF MY OWN MIND.
NO ONE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO DO THIS.
IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOMEBODY IN TALLAHASSEE, THAT'S
CORRECT?
02:38:20PM >> CORRECT.
02:38:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MADE THESE BOARDS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE
STATE OF FLORIDA.
02:38:26PM >> CORRECT.
02:38:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE ARE HELPFUL TO MAINTAIN CONTACT WITH
THE COMMUNITY WITH THE NEW WAY OF DOING IT WITHOUT IT BEING
A LAW.
02:38:34PM >> CORRECT.
02:38:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
I WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD.
02:38:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:38:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN CONCEPT WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DID WITH
THE COMPROMISE OF CREATING THIS REVIEW BOARD WAS THE RIGHT
THING AT THAT TIME.
IT IS A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS.
NOT A CITY OF TAMPA ISSUE.
IT IS A TALLAHASSEE ISSUE.
WE NEED TO TEAL WITH.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THAT ON THE ADVICE OF OUR LEGAL
COUNSEL.
02:38:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:39:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE PASSED ON THE SECOND TRY A BILL OF
RIGHTS WHICH IS THE ONLY CIVIL RIGHTS BILLS THAT WAS PASSED,
VOTED DOWN BY COUNCIL.
BROUGHT BACK AND WE SUPPORTED IT.
THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN TO DO ENHANCE RIGHTS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PASSED WHEN WE COULD DO THIS.
AS I SAID BEFORE, IF I WAS IN TALLAHASSEE FOR A STATE
REPRESENTATIVE.
I WOULD HAVE VOTED NO.
I THINK THIS IS AWFUL.
LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS
WITHIN PARAMETERS AND I THINK THE CITY OF TAMPA'S CRB WAS
SOMETHING THAT WORKED FOR EVERYBODY, POLICE OFFICERS, THE
COMMUNITY, ETC., BECAUSE YOU NEED FUNCTIONS THAT PROMOTE
COMMUNITY POLICING THAT PROMOTE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
THAT PROMOTE SOME LEVEL OF DIALOGUE AND ENGAGEMENT.
I THINK THAT IS GOOD FOR COPS.
THAT IS GOOD FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.
THERE WERE NUMEROUS PROPOSALS TOLL ADD ON TOP THIS
COMMITTEE.
SOME I VOTED FOR.
LIKE THE ATTORNEY.
SOME I VOTED AGAINST LIKE SUBPOENA POWER.
I TRIED TO TAKE ONE THING AT A TIME.
BUT SUPPORTING THE OVERALL THING.
HAD THIS COME UP IN TALLAHASSEE, I THINK THAT ALL OF US
WOULD VERY LIKELY VOTED AGAINST THAT BILL NOT JUST FOR WHAT
TAMPA HAS, BUT WHAT WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE I THINK IN
COMMUNITIES.
THE WAY I SEE THIS, OUR HANDS ARE TIED, AS I INTERPRET IT
AND SPEAKING WITH COUNSEL.
JUST MY OPINION.
02:40:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:40:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
02:40:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
02:40:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
02:40:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
02:40:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
02:40:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
02:40:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:40:43PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND HURTAK VOTE
NOTHING.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION DECEMBER 5, 2024 AT 10 A.M.
AT 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 3062.
02:41:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT CONCLUDES THAT.
ANYTHING THAT I PULLED THAT WITH AS GOING TO COME FIRST
UNDER STAFF REPORT?
WE TOOK CARE OF NUMBER 8 -- THAT'S RIGHT, 19-22, THE EVENT
PERMITS.
ANYBODY HERE FOR 19-22.
02:41:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I THOUGHT MR. BRODY WAS GOING TO BE HERE.
02:41:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S GIVE HIM A MOMENT.
HE MIGHT POP IN.
02:41:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE CAN GO BACK.
02:41:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING UNDER ADMINISTRATION UPDATE OR
DID THE CHIEF OF STAFF COVER THAT ALREADY THIS MORNING?
YOU ARE GOOD?
ITEM NUMBER 69, $6.5 MILLION.
MR. BAIRD SENT A MEMO WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF FOR ITEM 69.
ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED FOR STAFF?
CAN I GET A MOTION --
02:41:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE TO ACCEPT -- MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
02:42:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 70 IS $6 MILLION.
MR. BAIRD, I SAW HIM ON.
DO WE NEED MR. BAIRD FOR ANYTHING?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT, $14.3
MILLION.
02:42:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION.
02:42:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL RIGHT.
MR. BHIDE WILL PRESENT ON 7 AND -- SORRY, BEFORE -- JUST
REAL QUICK.
WILL BRODY, 19-23.
02:42:48PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO COME FORWARD TO DISCUSS THE SPECIAL EVENTS
ORDINANCE.
02:42:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:42:59PM >> SPECIFICALLY WHAT OCCURRED ON THIS SITUATION IS THAT THE
ITEMS 19, 20, 21 AND 22 WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY CITY
COUNCIL BEFORE THE -- BEFORE THE HURRICANES --
02:43:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU ARE OUT OF BREATH.
02:43:20PM >> I AM OUT OF BREATH.
I RAN UP HERE --
02:43:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
TECHNOLOGY --
02:43:30PM >> YES, SO THOSE WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL BACK AT A PREVIOUS
MEETING.
AND BECAUSE OF HURRICANES THE STATES HAD TO CHANGE THAT'S
WHY THIS WITH AS BROUGHT BACK TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF THE DATE
CHANGES.
02:43:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THESE DATES HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED?
WHY DO WE HAVE TO ACT ON THEM?
SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO ACTON?
02:43:53PM >> I THINK THAT IT WAS PROVIDED AS COURTESY, BECAUSE UNDER
THE ORDINANCE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO APPROVE ANY SPECIAL
EVENTS.
SINCE IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED TECHNICALLY, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO
BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
BUT AS A MATTER JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT DATES HAVE
CHANGED, HE BROUGHT IT BACK.
02:44:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL RIGHT.
VERY GOOD.
02:44:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. MULKEY, ANYTHING TO ADD?
02:44:29PM >>TONY MULKEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, TONY MULKEY, PARKS
AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
I WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE DETAIL THAT THE ONLY ONE OF THESE
EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS THE
ALZHEIMER'S WALK AND THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON I
THINK IT WAS AUGUST 22 THAT ONE WAS APPROVED BE COUNCIL.
SO THIS IS BRINGING IT BACK SO OUR FILES WERE KIND OF
COMPLAINT AND CURED WITH THE CODE.
WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
OTHERS WERE EVENT DETAILS THE THIRD THURSDAY ONE IS ACTUALLY
FOR A FULL QUARTER OF THREE EVENTS.
SO THAT -- THAT DOES HAVE FUTURE EVENTS N THERE.
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT GOT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.
THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANES.
THOSE EVENTS STILL HAVE SOME DATES TAKING PLACE IN NOVEMBER
AND DECEMBER.
02:45:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:45:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.
02:45:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THOSE ITEMS.
02:45:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOVE 19-22.
02:45:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BRODY.
WE GO TO 72 AND 73.
ASK COUNCIL TO LET MR. BHIDE TO FINISH HIS PRESENTATION.
02:45:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HOW WOULD WE NOT LET HIM FINISH?
02:46:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
02:46:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I RECOGNIZE US.
02:46:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. BHIDE, GO THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION
AND WE WILL HOLD QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, NO INTERRUPTIONS
UNTIL YOU ARE FINISHED.
02:46:17PM >>VIK BHIDE:
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
HERE TO ADDRESS ITEMS 72 AND 73.
A MEMO TO THAT EFFECT WAS SENT BY ME TO COUNCIL A LITTLE
LATHE, BUT IT IS ON THE FILE SO YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY
THIS MORNING.
THIS PROJECT IS THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING RELIEF PROCESS.
THAT IS WHAT THESE TWO MOTIONS ARE ABOUT.
HE WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND HOW THIS CAME ABOUT
WITH THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR CLARIFICATION.
WHAT OUR GOALS ARE WITH THIS PROJECT, HOW THE CONTRACTOR WAS
SELECTED, AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS
PUT OUT THERE.
INVALID CONCERNS, I WOULD SAY.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS PROJECT ADDRESSES THE WATER SHED
THAT IS ENCLOSED BY PALMA CEIA VINES, PARKWOOD ESTATES,
BAYSHORE GARDEN -- YEAH, BAYSHORE GARDEN AND ONE OTHER
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS WAS DOCUMENTED IN THE ORIGINAL STUDY BY JMP.
AND ON PEND ONE, IT KIND OF SHOWS WHAT THE WATERSHED IS.
YEAH, SURE.
SO I AM GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS REPORT FOR A SECOND FIRST
WE HAVE KNOWN THAT THIS AREA OR THIS WATER HEAD IN AN
INSUFFICIENT DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND A OUTFALL SYSTEM FOR AT
LEAST MORE THAN TWO DECADES.
WE KNOW THIS AREA HAS INSUFFICIENT DRAINAGE.
THE CHALLENGE HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN RESOURCES WHICH WAS
ADDRESSED IN 2016 BY THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR BEING THE CRITICAL VOTE ON THAT.
AND THAT CREATED THE RESOURCES FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE STUDIED THIS FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS, THE STORMWATER AND
ENGINEERING TEAM AND WE HAVE A VERY PROFICIENT TEAM THAT HAS
LOOKED AT VARIOUS OPTIONS THROUGH TWO CONSULTANT AND INHOUSE
STUDIES.
WE HAVE DEWBERRY DO WORK AND JMT.
IN 2022, WELL JMT LOOK AT ALL THESE STUDIES WITH THE GOAL OF
FEASIBLE AND REALISTIC ALTERNATIVES FOR PROJECTS.
PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE LOOKED AT 19 ROUTE OPTIONS I WILL BRING THIS PICTURE HERE
JUST TO GIVE COUNCIL AN IDEA.
02:49:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
02:49:31PM >>VIK BHIDE:
AND BAYSHORE IS DOWN HERE.
SO THIS STUDY HAS RECEIVED CAREFUL STUDY CONSIDERATION.
THIS ENTIRE ASSESSMENT AND REVIEW.
IN JUNE OF 2022, THIS PROJECT FIRST AND IN -- IN THE
QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE SUBMIT TO COUNCIL THAT HIGHLIGHTS
ALL OF OUR MAJOR PROJECTS.
AND THAT LISTED AS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS.
IT HIGHLIGHTS SMALLER PROJECTS, SECTION TWO OF THAT
QUARTERLY REPORT AND I KNOW THERE IS DISCUSSION ABOUT IT
EARLIER TODAY BREAKS DOWN HOW MUCH WE HAVE COLLECT IN
SERVICE AND IMPROVEMENT.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONFUSION AND QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SERVICE AND THE IMPROVEMENT
ASSESSMENT.
I WILL REITERATE, THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT PAYS FOR LARGE
CAPITAL PROJECTS LIKE THE ONE RIGHT NOW.
THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT IS TWO THINGS.
ONE IS THE STORMWATER OPERATIONS DIVISION.
THE TEAM THAT GOES THERE BEFORE THE STORM, AFTER THE STORM,
AND DOES SOME PORTION OF MAINTENANCE.
OTHER PORTION OF MAITENANCE IS DONE BY CONTRACTORS.
ALL OF OUR PRODUCTION WORK IS DOCUMENTED ON
TAMPA.GOV/METRICS UNDER MOBILITY AND STORMWATER OPERATIONS.
AND METRICS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT I RECEIVE WEEKLY METRICS FROM OUR
STORMWATER OPERATIONS TEAM.
AGAIN A BACK GROUND ON ALL OF THAT.
SO, AGAIN, WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR DECADES.
WE PLAN DIFFERENT ROUTES.
WE PRESENTED FEASIBLE REALISTIC ALTERNATIVE OF LEVERAGING
SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE THIS IS HOW THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING
RELIEF PROJECT CAME ABOUT.
REASON -- THE MAIN THREE REASONS FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD ROUTE.
ONE IS, THERE IS A BOX PUT IN 40 OR 50 YEARS BACK UNDER
THE CSX TRACKS.
THIS IS CRITICAL, BECAUSE CSX COORDINATION AS MANY OF YOU
KNOW CAN DELAY ANY PROJECT BY SEVERAL YEARS.
IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
AND THAT IS A FACTOR.
THE OTHER PART OF THIS -- BECAUSE THIS IS A GRAVITY SYSTEM,
THE OUTFALL GOES OUT TO BAYSHORE.
THERE IS AN EXISTING BOX AT HOWARD AND BAYSHORE.
SO LEVERAGING THESE TWO ASSETS AND THEN LEVERAGING A LINEAR
PATH WHICH IS A SECOND PIECE OF IT BECAUSE IT IS A GRAVITY
SYSTEM AND YOU DON'T WANT A LOT OF 90-DEGREE TURNS.
A LINEAR PATH TO CONVEY WATER DOWN TO THE OUTFALL WAS THE
OTHER REASONS THIS WAS SELECTED.
THE THIRD REASON HAS TO DO WITH COST AND VIABILITY.
AND THERE ARE MANY FACTORS ARE RELATED TO VIABILITY, BUT
WHEN IT COMES TO COST WITH STORMWATER PROJECTS, EN BOX
CULVERT PROJECTS.
AND I WILL TOUCH UP ON WHY PONDS ARE IN THE FEASIBLE AND
OTHER OPTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED TODAY IS SIMPLY THE
DISTANCE OF THE PROJECT.
THE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT DRIVES THE COST BECAUSE OF THE
SIZE OF THE BOX.
SO MacDILL WAS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY.
A PROJECT ALONG MacDILL TO IMPACT THIS BASIN BOOK 50% LONGER
IN LENGTH.
PLUS IT CON FACILITATES THE DESIGN BECAUSE THE BOX MAY HAVE
TO BE LARGER.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET, BECAUSE THAT IS A FUNCTION OF
DESIGN.
BECAUSE IT COLLECTS OTHER DRAINAGE BASINS ALONG THE WAY.
THE SAME WITH SWANN GOING OUT TO BAYSHORE, ABOUT 30% LARGER.
SO SOUTH HOWARD OR ADJACENT ROUTES WERE THE MOST VIABLE.
SO THAT IS ABOUT THE ROUTE AS I MENTIONED THE PROJECT WAS
DEFINED IN THE QUARTERLY REPORT OF 2022 AND IN 2023, WE
SELECTED THE DESIGN-BUILD TEAM FOR THIS PROBABLY.
THIS WAS DONE USING THE CCNA METHOD.
HOW WE SELECT ALL DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACTS.
IT IS THE PROPER METHOD FOR LARGE PROJECTS.
THIS IS A PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT.
WE SELECTED KIMMINS FOR THE PROJECT WITH ATKINS REALIS AND
SLEW OF SUB CONSULTANTS.
SIM KIMMINS HAS A STELLAR TRACK RECORD.
THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FINISHING THE MacDILL 48 LOWER
PENINSULA PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT WON THE ASC, AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEER
AWARDS AT THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL MEETING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO IT IS AN AWARD-WINNING PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT, ALONG WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DONE
SINCE 2016 AND THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
SO I AM TALKING OF CYPRESS STREET.
SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
UPPER PENINSULA BY DALE MABRY AND HENDERSON.
ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THROUGH THE TWO STORMS THAT WE JUST
HAD THROUGH THE RECORD WETTEST SEPTEMBER TO DATE PERFORMED
VERY WELL.
DRAINAGE SYSTEM IN THESE PROJECT AREAS WORK WELL.
WE KNOW THESE PROJECTS WORK WELL.
NO REASON TO BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL NOT DELIVER THE
OUTCOME THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHATEVER THOSE OUTCOMES,
THE OUTCOMES ULTIMATELY THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS ARE TO
BUILD THE LARGEST POSSIBLE STORMWATER SYSTEM TO MITIGATE
FLOODING WITHIN THIS BASIN.
WE HAVE MODELLED THE BOX FOR 100-YEAR EVENT AND ALL THE
OTHER SUB SYSTEMS WILL BE MODELLED FOR THE LARGEST CAPACITY.
BASED ON OUR MODELLING SO FAR, EVENTS LIKE WE HAVE SEEN
RECENTLY WILL COST STREET FLOODING AND WOULD HAVE MITIGATED
A MAJORITY.
AND THIS IS PACED ON MODELING AFTER THE STORM KNOWING THE
ORIGINAL MODELING WITH THE -- OUR EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER
STORMWATER PROJECTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT -- ABOUT OUTREACH AND
SOME OF THE RESOURCES WHERE YOU CAN FIND INFORMATION ON THIS
PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF PRELIMINARY OUTREACH ON
THIS PROJECT.
THERE WAS CONCERN OF US NOT HAVING DOING ENOUGH OUTREACH AND
BEFORE A RFQ WAS RELEASED, WE MET WITH KEY MEMBERS,
NEIGHBORHOOD MEMBERS.
AND MET WITH THE BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
THIS PROJECTS LIKE THESE WILL BE IMPACTFUL AND PROJECTS LIKE
THESE GENERATIONAL PROJECTS.
AND SET FORTH INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NEXT 50 TO 70 2023-2024
QUESTION GOT 100-YEAR-OLD INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY TODAY.
AND ENGINEER SPEAK, THE WARRANTY IS 50 YEARS I GUESS BUT
THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WILL LAST A LONG TIME CONSIDERS SEA
LEVEL RISE.
WE WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER SEA LEVEL RISE AND WHEN WE GET INTO
THE DESIGN PHASE OF THIS CONTRACT, IT WILL CONSIDER THE
LATEST AVAILABLE DATA IN LIGHT OF OUR RESILIENCE CHALLENGES
BUT THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT IS VARIED.
$11 MILLION COMMITTED BY THEA AND COMMITTING $11 MILLION AS
THEY DO THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY PROJECT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO
SOME MITIGATION, SO THERE IS SOME -- SOME VALUE FOR BOTH
ENTITY IN THIS PARTNERSHIP.
SO WE ARE BENEFITTING FROM THAT.
AS IS THEA I WOULD SAY.
FDEP THROUGH THEIR RESILIENT FLORIDA PROGRAM AWARDED THE
CITY A $10 MILLION GRANT THAT COUNCIL GRACIOUSLY APPROVED
EARLIER THIS YEAR.
THIS WAS A COMPETITIVE GRANT AND COME WITH VERY CLEAR
GUIDELINES AND A REVIEW PROCESS.
THIS MONEY COULD HAVE GONE ANYWHERE AND SAW THE VALUE IN
INVESTING IN THIS PROJECT FOR THE ANTICIPATED OUTCOMES.
I SON-IN-LAW SAY THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL SET OF EYES THAT
VALIDATE THIS APPROACH.
AND THIS PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOW HIGHLIGHT A FEW ITEMS THAT THE COMMUNITY
HAD MENTIONED RELATIVE TO JUST VARIOUS CONCERNS.
SO I THINK THE ISSUE OF SURGE WAS BROUGHT UP.
THAT THEY PUT IN A BOX CULVERT WITH AN OUTFALL.
THEN THAT BECOMES SUSCEPTIBLE TO SURGE AS THE WATER SURGES
UP THE BOX.
WHICH IS A GOOD POINT.
WHICH IS A VALID POINT WHAT I WILL ADD TO THAT ABSENT A BOX,
THE WATER IS STILL COMING IN.
BUT NOW YOU HAVE A BOX TO STORE SOME OF THAT WATER AND SOME
OF IT MAY COME OUT WHERE YOU HAVE INLETS.
THAT HAPPENS.
WE SEE THAT IN VERY LOW-LYING AREAS RIGHT NOW.
WITH DAYLIGHT FLOODING EVENT DURING KING TIDES THIS WILL
CONTINUE WHICH IS WHY WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THIS.
THE GULF WATER HAVE SET A RECORD YEAR UPON YEAR, THE WARMER
THE GULF WATERS, THE STRONGER THE STORMS WE WILL HAVE.
THIS DOES NOT CHANGE.
WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE IN A HURRY.
GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE THE FUND.
USUALLY OUR CHALLENGE IS WE DON'T HAVE THE FUND AND DON'T
HAVE A DEFINED PROJECT.
THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT THE COMMUNITY
TRUSTS THAT HAS A GREAT TRACK RECORD OF DELIVERING PROJECTS.
AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THIS PROJECT AS FAST AS
POSSIBLE.
ON THAT NOTE, I KNOW OTHER OPTIONS ARE REPRESENTED
POTENTIALLY GETTING THIS WORK DONE EVEN SOONER.
WE HAVE REVIEWED SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS PUT FORTH, AND WE DO
NOT FEEL THAT THEY ARE FEASIBLE GIVEN THE POLICY FRAMEWORK
THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WITHIN THE CITY, BE IT EMERGENCY
POWERS, BE IT THE REQUIREMENT FOR CONTRACTING.
WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT DESIGN-BUILD VERSUS DESIGN BID BILL
BUILD.
LET ME TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
THIS -- THIS METHOD -- PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD OFFERS EVERY
OPPORTUNITY THAT DESIGN BID BILL OFFERS.
MEANING OF THAT WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE DESIGN TASK.
THATCH DESIGN TASK IS GOING TO INCLUDE AN UNPRECEDENTED
AMOUNT OF RESOURCES FOR OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
AT EVERY LEVEL, CONCEPT, 30%, 60%, 90% DESIGN.
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DESIGN TO GET THE INPUTS.
A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS WE HEARD AND CONCERNS FROM NEIGHBORS
ABOUT THIS PROJECT ARE RELATIVE TO THE DESIGN.
THEY ARE NOT RELATIVE TO PLANNING.
AND THAT IS SOME OF THE MESSAGING WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET
OUT THERE.
SOME GETTING THAT DESIGN STARTED WILL ACTUALLY START
ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS.
ONCE DESIGN IS COMPLETE AS IT GOES WITH ALL THE DESIGN-BUILD
PROJECTS, COUNCIL WILL HAVE A SECOND STAB OF IMPROVING
THE GMP, OR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THIS.
SO IN THAT SENSE, IT IS SIMILAR TO DESIGN BID BUILD.
THE KEY DIFFERENCES IS WITH THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD ARE
THE FOLLOWING, ONE IS A ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE HAVE ONE PARTY THAT IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ENTIRE
PROCESS.
THAT REALLY HELPS.
THE SECOND IS SCHEDULE.
PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILDS ARE ACTUALLY FASTER.
AND THE REASON THEY ARE FASTER IS AS SUBSTANTIAL DESIGN IS
BEING COMPLETED, THE BUILDER THAT IS TYPICALLY THE CLIENT
KNOWS WHAT EQUIPMENT TO ORDER.
LEAD TIMES ARE SHORTER.
STARTS WORKING ON MEANS AND METHODS OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT ALLOWS FOR THOSE SCHEDULES TO BE COMPRESSED A
LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
AND THE THIRD IS COST FOR LARGE PROJECTS.
PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD IS TYPICALLY THE PREFERRED METHOD
BECAUSE WE CAN BE A LOWER COST.
SO THERE WILL BE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
PUBLIC WILL GET A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN BEFORE THIS GOES TO
CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE BUILDER WILL HAVE MUCH BETTER
INFORMATION IN ADVANCE TO STAGE THE CONSTRUCTION, TO
MINIMIZE IMPACTS AND THERE WILL BE IMPACTS, AND TO PLAN THE
PROBABLY -- THE OVERALL PROJECT BETTER.
I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ANOTHER POINT OR ADVANTAGE ABOUT
THIS DURING THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
THE COMMUNITY HALLS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO
THE DESIGN BUILDER.
WHAT PARAMETERS THEY WANT FOR CONSTRUCTION.
DO THEY WANT TO WORK THROUGH WEEKENDS.
DO WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH NIGHTS SO THAT IMPACT SCHEDULE.
THESE FLEXIBILITIES ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CONTRACT.
WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED IN TERMS OF ANTICIPATED SCHEDULE, WHAT
WE HAVE PROVIDED IN TERMS OF ANTICIPATED SCOPE IS TO
MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF DISRUPTION TO BUSINESSES ALONG HOWARD
AVENUE.
AND WE HAVE SHARED THE BEST AVAILABLE INFORMATION THAT WE
HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CONTRACTOR WITH US WHEN WE MET WITH
THE BUSINESS ALLIANCE OR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
FINALLY, I WANT TO CLOSE WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION.
SO AS THE MEMO STATES IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS -- WELL, BEFORE
I GET TO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SHARE OUR STAFF ARE
DRIVEN BY PUBLIC SERVICE.
WE HAVE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD TEAM AT THE STORMWATER
ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE 1 ENGINEERS AND TECHNICIANS.
THIS IS THE LARGER TEAM THAN MOST LARGE CONSULTING TERMS IN
OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE A DESIGN ENGINEER THAT WAS A CONSULTANT FOR DECADES
BEFORE DECIDING HE WANTED TO GO INTO PUBLIC SERVICE.
HE IS OUR CHIEF DESIGN ENGINEER NOW.
WE HAVE A STORMWATER MAJOR THAT WORKED FOR S.W.F.W.M.D.
HER SPECIALTY IS WATER SHED MANAGEMENT.
SHE IS LEADING OUR WATER SHED.
OUR STAFF COMES FROM A PLACE OF PUBLIC SERVICE TO DELIVER
THE BEST POSSIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT -- IS TO ACHIEVE THE
FASTEST AND MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO BRING FLOODING RELIEF TO
PARKLAND HE IS STATES, PALMA CEIA PIPES AND ASSOCIATED
DRAINAGE BASIN, WE ASK THAT ON NOVEMBER 21, WE WILL BRING TO
YOU IT A DESIGN TASK THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR THE
SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
THAT IS THE WAY TO GET THE PROJECT STARTED.
WE ASK THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THAT TASK AND PUT US AND KIMMINS
TO WORK TOWARD THIS PROJECT.
AT THIS POINT, I WILL TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
03:06:11PM >> COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN HAS HIS MICROPHONE ON FIRST.
03:06:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU PUT THE PROBABLY MAP THAT YOU HAVE
BACK ON?
03:06:30PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE ROUTE MAP?
03:06:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES PLEASE.
I WANT TO SAY THAT WHAT HAPPENED IS, CORRECT ME IF I'M
WRONG, THERE ISN'T -- THERE HAVEN'T BEEN AN ROUTE DECIDED UPON
YET.
03:06:41PM >>VIK BHIDE:
A FINAL ROUTE HAS NOT BEEN SELECTED.
03:06:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOMEHOW IN THE PUBLIC INFORMATION, THERE
WAS AN ASSUMPTION THAT A FINAL ROUTE HAD BEEN DETERMINED AND
THAT SET OFF A FIRESTORM THAT -- THAT THIS WAS ALREADY SET
IN STONE AND SO PEOPLE STARTED GETTING, YOU KNOW, UPSET,
BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY DECIDED.
SO WE ARE NOT THERE?
03:07:05PM >>VIK BHIDE:
CORRECT.
LET ME CLARIFY THAT.
THIS IS THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
IT IS ON THE BASIS THAT SOUTH HOWARD IS THE MOST VIABLE AND
FEASIBLE ROUTE.
HOW THIS PROJECT CONNECTS TO SOUTH HOWARD IS STILL OPEN.
THAT IS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.
AND THAT DESIGN PROCESS WILL FIRST CONSIDER HOW DO WE MOVE
WATER BEST, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS BOTH TO TREES, TO
BUSINESSES, TO RESIDENCES, ALL OF THAT.
THAT IS A FUNCTION AND FLEXIBILITY AVAILABLE TO THE
DESIGNERS THROUGH THE PROCESS.
03:07:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND INITIALLY AS THIS WAS CONCEIVED
BETWEEN THEA AND, YOU KNOW, EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE
OUTFALL.
THIS MOSTLY WAS -- HAD TO DO WITH SOUTH OF SWANN AND -- BUT
NOW WE ARE EXPANDING THE CONCEPT BECAUSE OF CONCERNS BETWEEN
KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND SWANN AND FRESH WATER.
THIS IS AN EXPANDED SCOPE?
03:08:11PM >>VIK BHIDE:
LET ME CLARIFY THAT.
NOT AN EXPANDED SCOPE BUT DOESN'T PRECLUDE ANYTHING NORTH OF
SWANN.
THIS IS PART OF ONE WATER SHED.
03:08:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM GOING TO GET TO THAT.
KEEP IN YOUR HAND BECAUSE I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
03:08:26PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SURE.
03:08:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS
PART OF THE MISCONCEPTION AS WELL.
BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT -- WE LIVE IN FLORIDA WITH A
CAPITAL F, THAT PEOPLE THINK OF FLOODING DURING THESE STORMS
AS STORM SURGE TYPE OF FLOODING AND FLOOD ZONES AND WHATNOT.
THIS AREA AND OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY THAT EXPERIENCE THIS
FLOODING ARE BASINS.
AND IT IS ME UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WATER SHED BASIN
NATURALLY POOLS WATER.
THE ONLY WAY TO GET WATER OUT OF THIS BASIN IS BY MAN-MADE
WAYS OF GETTING IT OUT.
WITHOUT MAN-MADE INTERVENTION BASICALLY A BOWL.
IF I LOOK AT THE TOP GRAPHICAL MAP, IT IS A BOWL.
03:09:10PM >>VIK BHIDE:
IT IS A SYSTEM THAT THE HIGHEST POINT IS PALMA
CEIA PINES.
HIGHER POINT BEYOND THAT KENNEDY AS WELL.
THEN PARKLAND ESTATES AND KIND OF FLOWS DOWN.
YOU SEE THAT ON HOWARD AVENUE.
IN ESSENCE BY UPGRADING THE SYSTEM AT PARKLAND HE IS SKATES,
AND ON SOUTH, IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS AND BENEFITS PALMA CEIA
PINES AS WELL THROUGH THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS
THE 36-INCH PIPE DOWN AUDUBON.
I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND.
03:09:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
03:09:44PM >>VIK BHIDE:
AS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS, THE GOAL IS TO
IMPACT THE WATER SHED AND TO BENEFIT THE WATER SHED.
IF THE ANALYSIS FINDS THAT WE NEED TO UPGRADE THAT 36-INCH
PIPE IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE FROM PALMA CEIA TO BAYSHORE, THAT
IS PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROCESS.
OUR EXISTING ISSUES ARE.
AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS I DON'T UNDERSTAND ON YOUR MAP.
SO I CAN SEE -- I CAN READ IT BETTER NOW.
AND MUST HAVE BEEN.
I SEE SWANN AVENUE.
POINT OUT HOWARD.
LET'S GO NORTH.
WE HAVE TWO MAJOR RETENTION PONDS.
ONE WAS CREATED RELATIVELY RECENTLY OFF OF TAMPA NEA.
AND THE OTHER ONE OF MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
WHAT PURPOSES TO THOSE TWO BEG RETENTION PONDS SERVE AND ARE
THEY ACTUALLY SERVING THE INTENDED PURPOSE?
ARE THEY FUNCTIONAL AND FUNCTIONING THE WAY THEY ANTICIPATED
BEING FUNCTIONAL THE WAY THEY WERE INSTRUCTED.
03:11:01PM >> PART OF A INSUFFICIENT DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
WHAT IS UNIQUE OF THE AMI POND, FOR EXAMPLE.
GRAVITY WISE, THE AUDUBON PIPE IS AN OVERFLOW TO THAT POND
THAT FLOWS DOWN TO PARKLAND ESTATES AND SWANN AND AUDUBON IS
KIND OF THE BOTTOM OF THE BOWL WHERE THE WATER COLLECTS.
THE PUMP ACTUALLY FEEDS AND PUMPS WEST TO THE CLEVELAND
BASIN.
OF DEVELOPING THE WATERSHED MASTER PLAN WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD
NAT CLEVELAND BASIN IS AMONG THE HIGHER SCORING PROJECTS.
03:11:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHERE IS THE OUTFLOW OF THE CLEVELAND
BASIN.
03:11:56PM >>VIK BHIDE:
EAST PARK.
CLARK, SWANN AND ALL OF THOSE AREAS WHERE WE SEE FLOODING,
SIMILAR ISSUES.
THAT IS A 1950s SYSTEM.
ALL OF THESE ARE INSUFFICIENT SYSTEMS RELATIVE TO WHEN THEY
WERE BUILT AND HOW THEY FUNCTION.
03:12:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, SO -- OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE I MADE THE
MOTION OF THE BRISTOL MOTION AND I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE
CONCERNS AND SPOKE WITH THE MAYOR OF SOME OF THESE THINGS.
I CAN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS NOT UNDER ROUTE
CONSIDERATION OF USING THAT WIDE CORRIDOR ON SWANN.
IF WE ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE WATER IF IT IS COMING FROM THE
HIGHER TO LOWER, YOU HAVE THIS BROAD SWANN AVENUE WHICH BY
THE WAY SELF-INTEREST, I LIVE ON SWANN.
IT WOULD BE AN IMPACT ON ME TO HAVE TO HAVE THIS
INCONVENIENCED ON SWANN.
BUT -- WHY -- WHY WASN'T -- WHY IS IT NOT BEING CONSIDERED
AT LEAST TO HAVE THAT ROUTE AS A CONSIDERATION OF SWANN TO
HOWARD.
SO WE HAVE THAT ENTIRE SECTION OF HOWARD ON THE NORTH
SECTION OF HOWARD IS NOT ON THE CONSIDERATION MAP.
03:13:04PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND HAS TO DO WITH
THREE THINGS.
ONE IS IMPACT.
THE OTHER IS EXISTING UTILITIES.
AND THE THIRD IS RELATIVE TO THE OTHER TWO ROUTES.
WHAT -- AGAIN, BACK TO IMPACT, BASICALLY HOW DOES THE
HYDROLOGY WORK OUT THERE.
BECAUSE IT IS FURTHER NORTH.
SO SWANN IS PART OF THE THREE ROUTES THAT WE ARE GOING TO
LOOK AT SWANN, BRISTOL OR MORRISON.
IF IT TURNS THAT SWANN IS THE ROUTE TO BE COLLECTED, THE
CHALLENGE WITH SWANN BECAUSE IT HAS OTHER UTILITIES ALREADY
UNDER SWANN AVENUE, WE WILL STILL NEED A FULL CLOSURE.
WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LEAVE ANY LANES OPEN.
AND SO -- AND THIS IS WITHOUT THE DESIGN HAVING STARTED YET.
BUT -- BUT YOU ARE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL CLOSURE OF
ARMENIA, HOWARD AND SWANN AT THE SAME TIME.
AND -- AND AN ACCURATE POINT WAS MADE EARLIER TODAY.
SOUTH OF SWANN, WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT GRID BETWEEN MacDILL,
BAYSHORE GOING NORTH ALL THE WAY BACK TO PLATT OR SWANN.
AND SO THAT COULD CREATE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS NOT TO MENTION
A SCHOOL OUT THERE AND THE GREEK CHURCH AS WELL AND IMPACTS
FOR EVERYONE.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE SAYING, LET'S GO THROUGH THE DESIGN
PROCESS.
LET'S GO THROUGH ENGAGEMENT AND LET THE FACTS SPEAK FOR
THEMSELVES AS PART OF THE PROCESS.
03:14:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SEEMS LIKE THE GAP ON HOWARD AS FAR AS NOT
HAVING THE GRID IS BETWEEN BRISTOL AND THAT ONE BLOCK SOUTH
OF BRISTOL WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY TO GET AROUND
THAT ONE BLOCK.
THAT IS AN OBSTACLE.
03:14:44PM >>VIK BHIDE:
NOT AN OBSTACLE.
NORTH OF AUDUBON NORTH AND SOUTH OF SWANN.
THE PIPE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.
AND THE PIPE IS, THERE.
03:15:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS PROJECT EXPANDING THE DIAMETER OF THE
PIPE FROM THE ANTIQUATED COLLECTION SYSTEM IN NORTH OF
SWANN, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING OR
ASKING THE CONTRACTOR LOOK AT FOR STORMWATER RELIEF IN THAT
AREA BETWEEN SWANN AND KENNEDY?
03:15:22PM >>VIK BHIDE:
BETWEEN SWANN AND KENNEDY, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK
AT IT.
AND THE FUNCTION OF THE DESIGN AGAIN.
IF THE AUDUBON PIPE IS NOT SUFFICIENT NORTH OF SWANN,
UPGRADES WILL BE SUGGESTED TO THAT 36-INCH PIPE.
THE SYSTEM PUMPS OUT WEST AND YOU CAN'T DREDGE THESE PONDS
ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE WATER TABLE.
AND THEN ON THAT SAME NOTE, ALSO A MENTION ABOUT BALL PARK.
AND WE CAN BUILD A POND THERE AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
FOR THE WATER SHED IN THE FLOOD AREA THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT,
WE -- WE WOULD REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF REAL ESTATE TO
CREATE A VIABLE STORAGE POND.
AND THAT STILL HASN'T OVERFLOW CHALLENGE LIKE THE AMR POND
WHY THE AUDUBON WAS PUT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
03:16:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION AND I WILL LET
THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAK.
DON'T LAUGH AT ME -- WITH RAINFALL, THE WAY THIS PROJECT IS
NOW CONCEIVED, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL CAPACITY OF RAIN PER HOUR
IT WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE WITHOUT A SURGE BACKING UP
INTO THE SYSTEM.
A CLEAN SYSTEM FROM POINT A ALL THE WAY TO POINT Z, HOW MUCH
RAIN IT WILL ABSORB PER HOUR WITHOUT CREATING FRESHWATER
FLOODING IN THESE NEIGHBORHOOD?
03:16:45PM >> THERE IS A MIXED ANSWER TO THAT AND REALLY A FUNK OF
DESIGN.
THE BOX CULVERTS ARE IN 100 YEAR STORM.
03:17:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHICH WE ARE GETTING EVERY THREE YEARS
NOW.
[LAUGHTER]
03:17:04PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE FUNCTION OF THE DESIGN PROCESS AND THE GOAL
TO DESIGN THE LARGEST POSSIBLE SYSTEM WITHIN THE PROJECT
SCOPE.
03:17:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID AND I WILL SHUT
UP.
WHAT I AM TRYING TO AVOID, PEOPLE HAVE A HIGH EXPECTATION OF
THIS.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WE WILL NEVER MEET FOLK'S
EXPECTATION.
AND ON THE SEVENTH YEAR, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO GET
FLOODED.
03:17:32PM >>VIK BHIDE:
VERY GOOD POINT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CAUTION
ON THAT.
SO, ONE, WE ANTICIPATE THIS BEING DONE IN FOUR.
IN TERMS OF MANAGING EXPECTATIONS, ON PAPERER, NOT IT HE
SIGNED FOR A CATEGORY 5 OR CATEGORY 3 STORM NECESSARILY, THE
SYSTEM ITSELF, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE
COMPLETED THAT WENT THROUGH THE TWO STORMS IN 12 DAYS, THOSE
SYSTEMS PERFORM VERY WELL.
ALL OF THE NEW PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE KNOW THIS WORKS.
AND SOUTH -- SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, FOR EXAMPLE.
THE PROPERTIES ALONG THE RIVER WERE IMPACTED, BUT THE
PROPERTIES THAT WERE NOT ON THE RIVER, PART OF THAT SYSTEM
DID VERY WELL.
SO, AGAIN -- YOU KNOW -- THERE IS NO -- THERE IS NO DIRECT
ANSWER TO WHAT STORM CONDITION UNTIL WE REALLY START DESIGN
AND WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH.
THE BOX IS DESIGNED FOR 100-YEAR CONDITION.
03:18:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I APPRECIATE YOU AND STAFF AND BEING VERY
RECEPTIVE AND ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS OFFLINE AS WELL.
NOT AT IN MEETING BUT BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
THANK YOU.
03:18:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
YOUR MICROPHONE.
03:18:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I ALWAYS HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU,
I THINK.
AND YOU ALWAYS COME TO THE MEETINGS.
AND NEIGHBORS SAY WE NEED TO TRUST ENGINEERS.
HE WORKED WITH A LOT OF ENGINEERS AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE AN
IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY; HOWEVER, THIS -- NOT YOU, BUT THIS
ADMINISTRATION IS PUSHING THIS PROJECT, ALSO IS THE
ADMINISTRATION TO PUSHED TOILET TO TAP AND WHOLE OTHER
PROJECTS THAT THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T WANT AND FURTHER ANALYSIS
-- WHAT I FIND IT DOING -- ECONOMIC AND ENGINEERING ANALYSIS
AND FINANCIAL ANALYSIS THAT EVERYTHING IS BIASED BY THE
MODEL YOU PUT INTO IT.
ANYWAY, I WANTED TO ASK YOU, THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE HERE
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, I NEVER SEEN THIS DOCUMENT BEFORE.
HAVE YOU -- IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE OF THE
--
03:19:56PM >>VIK BHIDE:
IT IS.
SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF.
WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION, TIMELINE.
03:20:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE SHAKING THEIR HEADS.
I LOOKED AT ALL THE DOCUMENTS ON THE WEB SITE SO YOU DON'T
HAVE TO LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT.
THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS STIRRED UP TROUBLE IN THIS LIKE THEY HAVE
MANY OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CITY AND MAINLY TO TAKE AWAY
BLAME AGAINST THEM FOR NOT PUSHING THIS FORWARD.
WHEN WAS THIS CITY COUNCIL FIRST BRIEFED ON THIS PROJECT?
03:20:25PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THIS WAS IN YOUR QUARTERLY REPORT JUNE 2022.
AND THERE WAS SEVERAL BRIEFINGS.
03:20:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A VERY BRIEF WAY.
NOT A LONG PRESENTATION.
03:20:40PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE DO THE GRADE A COMPUTATIONS.
03:20:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAT DOWN YOU WITH AND SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATIONS ON OCTOBER 17.
WASN'T THAT THE FIRST TIME I WAS FULLY BRIEFED AND ANSWERED
QUESTIONS?
03:20:52PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ACTUALLY SO -- WE HAD ONE ON ONE COUNCIL
BRIEFS.
03:20:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU AND I HAD A PHONE CALL.
03:21:00PM >>VIK BHIDE:
TEAMS BRIEFING YOU WITH ON JULY 17.
03:21:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE POINT IS THIS IS CIRCULATED IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THIS PROJECT FOR
FIVE TO TEN YEARS.
IS THAT ACCURATE BASED ON THE DATES?
03:21:16PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT LONG.
03:21:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL
BEFORE, BUT THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN SITTING ON THIS PROJECT AT
THE MOST -- YOU COULD SAY 2022.
BUT THAT WAS APPROVED AT THAT TIME.
THE FIRST TIME I SAT DOWN AND HAD A FULL BRIEFING WHICH I
INVITED MR. ADAMS TO AT HIS REQUEST AND I INVITED THE OTHER
NEIGHBORHOODS TOO WAS ON OCTOBER 17.
AND AFTER THAT, IT WAS -- WHEN DO YOU THINK WAS THE FIRST
TIME THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL COULD HAVE APPROVED THIS
PROJECT.
IF EVERYTHING HA GONE THROUGH, WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS
CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE APPROVED THIS PROJECT?
03:21:59PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THAT THE DESIGN TASK.
03:22:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DID WE TO SOMETHING TO STOP YOU -- COULD YOU
HAVE PUT THIS IN FRONT OF US JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF THIS
YEAR.
BECAUSE I WASN'T BRIEFED UNTIL OCTOBER, CORRECT?
03:22:12PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE DESIGN BUILD CONTRACTOR WAS SELECTED LAST
SEPTEMBER.
AND COUNCIL WAS BRIEFED --
03:22:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY TO SPEED UP THE TIME.
WHEN IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
APPROVE IT.
ANY TIME BETWEEN DECEMBER AND THIS COMING NOVEMBER THAT WE
WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IMPROVE IT?
03:22:32PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE IT HE SIGN TASK IS THE FIRST APPROVAL.
03:22:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ALLEGATION THAT I DID SOMETHING TO SLOW
THIS DOWN ISN'T TRUE EITHER, CORRECT.
AND THEN HOW LONG -- HOW LONG -- IF -- ONCE WE APPROVE IT.
IF WE APPROVE IF IN MOMENT FROM BEGINNING TO END, HOW LONG
DOES IT TAKE TO FINISH THIS PROJECT.
03:22:52PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE ANTICIPATE FOUR YEARS.
IT COULD BE SOONER.
03:22:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN WILL IT START AND WHAT YEAR WILL IT BE
COMPLETED.
03:22:58PM >>VIK BHIDE:
IT WILL START IMMEDIATELY, THE DESIGN TASK UPON
APPROVAL.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TOO GET YOU A GMP AND CONSTRUCTION WHICH
IS YOUR LOGICAL NEXT STEP EARLY WORKS WITHIN TITHE TEN
MONTHS AND MAJOR CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN AFTER THAT.
03:23:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT DATE WILL IT BE DONE, WHAT YEAR?
03:23:23PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE STARTED THIS NOVEMBER, WE WILL BE DONE
NOVEMBER OF '29 -- -- '28.
03:23:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
'28 OR '29 DEPENDING ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CONCERNED OF PROBLEMS NOW AND THE NEXT
STORM.
WE ALSO ARE CONCERNED -- I WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALLEGED THAT I AM NOT INTERESTED IN SOLVE
CAN THE PROBLEM.
I ABSOLUTELY AM.
BUT WE DEAL WITH A CITY ADMINISTRATION THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS
AGREE WITH.
03:23:51PM >>VIK BHIDE:
MAY I SHARE A PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.
03:23:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY THE ISSUE IS IT IS GOING TO TAKE
UNTIL 2029.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN -- WHEN THE WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION WILL
BEGIN?
WHERE IS THE POINT AT THE BEGINNING OF IT?
03:24:07PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I WILL ADDRESS THAT AND THE POINT I WANT TO
MAKE.
03:24:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AM ASKING QUESTIONS.
03:24:12PM >>VIK BHIDE:
AND ANSWERING YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION AS WELL
BECAUSE IT IS RELEVANT.
START DOWNSTREAM.
03:24:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
STARTING AT BAYSHORE.
03:24:20PM >>VIK BHIDE:
BAYSHORE AND WE WORK UP.
THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT EVEN THOUGH THE WHOLE PROJECT
WILL TAKE FOUR YEARS, THE MINUTE WE START WORKING TO EVERY
NEIGHBORHOOD IT CONNECTS TO STARTS BENEFITING.
03:24:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU ARE CONNECTING AT BAYSHORE.
THE ENDS IN TWO YEARS, TWO OR THREE YEARS.
IF A BIG STORM COMES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD GETS FLOODED.
03:24:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE CONCERN WE HAVE IS WHAT WILL WE DO IN
THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS.
A LONG-TERM AND SHORT-TERM SITUATION THAT WE NEED TO
ADDRESS.
EVEN IF WE APPROVE THIS A BUNCH OF NEIGHBORS COMING IN
SAYING OUR HOUSES ARE FLOODED AND OUR LEAVES ARE DESTROYED.
WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP THAT AND A SITUATION
FACING.
TO THIS DAY, HAS THE CITY PRESENTED ANY SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS
THAT WILL PREVENT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM GETTING FLOODED
BEFORE THE END OF 2028?
03:25:09PM >> IF YOU LOOK AT MY MEMO, THERE ARE NO SHORT-TERM
SOLUTIONS.
THERE IS -- THIS SOLUTION --
03:25:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE CITY HAS NO PLAN -- JUST TO BE CLEAR,
THE CITY HAS NO PLAN -- THERE IS NO PROPOSAL BEFORE CITY
COUNCIL TO PRESENT FLOODING IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS EVEN IF
WE APPROVED THIS.
THEIR HOUSES ARE GOING TO GET FLOODED.
AND THE CITY HAS -- HAS NO PLAN --
03:25:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT IS NOT ACCURATE --
03:25:34PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THAT IS NOT ACCURATE.
THAT IS THE PART I WANTED TO CLARIFY, COUNCILMAN.
AS WE CONTINUE CONSTRUCTION FROM BAYSHORE WORKING OUR WAY
UPWARDS, EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT HITS STARTS
BENEFITING.
IF THEY ARE BENEFITING, THAT MEANS PARKLAND ULTIMATELY
BENEFITS AS WELL AND PALMA CEIA PINES BECAUSE THAT WATER
DRAIN AS LITTLE BETTER.
03:25:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK OVERLAY -- THE MAP ON
THE FRONT PAGE OF THE WEB SITE -- I JUST WANT -- THIS IS THE
MAP THAT IS THE FIRST COMMUNICATION THAT EVERYBODY HAS THAT
LOOKS AT IN SITE.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE PALMA CEIA PINES IS ON THIS?
03:26:17PM >>VIK BHIDE:
NORTH ON SWANN.
03:26:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHERE IT ON THE MAP.
03:26:21PM >>VIK BHIDE:
NORTH ON SWANN.
03:26:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OFF OF THE PICTURE.
MOST IS OFF THE PICTURE, ISN'T IT?
03:26:27PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES.
03:26:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
REASONABLY, IS IT NOT TRUE AND UNTIL NOW IN
PRIMARY COMMUNICATION, NOBODY MENTIONED PALMA CEIA PINES
UNTIL THE LAST FEW DAYS SINCE THIS STORM.
WHERE ARE THE PIPES THAT GO UP TO PALMA CEIA.
03:26:42PM >> AUDUBON, EXISTING PIPES.
03:26:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NEW PIPES.
YOUR DEPARTMENT TOLD PALMA CEIA PINES THIS WILL SOLVES THEIR
PROBLEM.
03:26:52PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES.
03:26:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND -- BUT I WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE
ARE THE PIPES THAT GO IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:26:59PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THEY COME FROM AUDUBON TO THE AMI POND INTO
PARKLAND ESTATES.
AGAIN A FUNCTION OF DESIGN.
THIS PROJECT -- THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING RELIEF PROJECT IS
FOR THE WATER SHED.
THIS IS -- THIS IS BASED --
03:27:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT
THE REALITY -- THE REALITY IS THAT PALMA CEIA PINES GOT
FLOODED AND FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU ARE PROMOTING AND TELLING
EVERYBODY THAT PALMA CEIA PINES WILL BE PROTECTED AND
APPEARS FROM EVERY INDICATION THAT IT IS NOT.
03:27:29PM >>VIK BHIDE:
CAN I ASK WHAT INDICATION?
03:27:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WOULD BE ON THE MAP.
03:27:41PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THIS IS BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING
STUDY AND SHOWS PALMA CEIA PINES IN THE WATER SHED.
THIS PROJECT IMPACTS THE WATER SHED.
03:27:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I GIVE YOU ANOTHER MAP?
THANK YOU.
SORRY TO MAKE YOU HAND OUT THESE FLYERS.
WE HAVE ISSUES GOING IN TEN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN SOUTH
COMPANY AND I AM MEETING WITH THEM SEPARATELY AND WE ARE
GETTING SLANDEROUS E-MAILS AND I WANT TO SET THE RECORD
STRAIGHT.
IF SOMEBODY PRESENTS EVIDENCE THAT SOMETHING I HAVE SAID OR
BELIEVED IS WRONG, I WILL CHANGE MY MIND.
BUT I DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED A LIAR AND I DON'T LIKE BEING
ACCUSED OF APPROVING SOMETHING TEN YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS NOT
ON COUNCIL.
CAN YOU SHOW US WHAT THIS MAP SHOW AS SOON AS.
03:28:45PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MAP SHOWS AND I DON'T
KNOW IF THIS IS IN THE FINAL REPORT OR NOT.
03:28:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS COMES FROM PUBLIC RECORDS THAT WEREN'T
MADE PUBLIC BUT THE LIGHT BLUE SHOW THE 100-YEAR 24-HOUR
5.5-INCH FLOODING.
WE HIT MORE THAN 100 YEAR FLOODING.
AND AFTER THIS IS COMPLETED LIGHT BLUE IS FLOODED IN THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND A REPORT THAT GOES WITH THIS.
03:29:15PM >> MAY I CLARIFY.
03:29:17PM >> WHAT IT SHOWS, AFTER ALL THIS IS SPENT.
BETWEEN NOW AND FOUR YEARS, IT IS ALSO GOING TO FLOOD.
03:29:25PM >> IF THIS MAP IS IN THE FINAL GMT REPORT AND PART OF THAT
TOCK ULTIMATE IN THE STUDY DONE AS PART --
03:29:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU SEE THE CONCERN.
03:29:39PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THAT IS THE DOCUMENT THAT GUIDES OUR DECISIONS
GOING FORWARD.
03:29:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HAVE WE HAD ANY 100-YEAR STORMS LATELY?
03:29:50PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES.
03:29:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT WAS THE MOST WE HAD IN A 24-HOUR PERIOD
IN THE LAST YEAR.
03:29:56PM >>VIK BHIDE:
300-YEAR STORM WITH HURRICANE MILTON.
03:30:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HOW MANY INCHES.
03:30:05PM >>VIK BHIDE:
11 AND A HALF TO 15.
03:30:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
PARKLAND ESTATES.
IS THIS SHOWS 5.5 INCHES AND YOU SAID 11.5?
03:30:15PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I CAN'T ATTEST TO THIS MAP.
03:30:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU SEE THE CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE
DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO
WORK.
THIS IS ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS INTERNALLY.
03:30:25PM >>VIK BHIDE:
LET ME CLARIFYING.
NO DESIGN FOR HURRICANES.
BUT YOU CAN DESIGN THE BEST POSSIBLE SYSTEM WITHIN THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY AND AVAILABLE RESOURCES THAT YOU CAN.
THAT IS OUR EFFORT.
IF WE DESIGN FOR HURRICANE CITYWIDE, I DON'T ANY WE
WILL EVER BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE RESOURCES.
NOT A GOOD REASON NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WELL THOUGHT OF
AND WELL ENGINEERED PROBLEMS IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.
03:30:54PM >> ALL I HAVE BEEN ASKING AND ALL THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING
FOR SEPARATE DESIGN AND BUILD AND I WILL GET TO THAT IN A
SECOND.
03:31:00PM >>VIK BHIDE:
NOT TO SEPARATE DESIGN AND BUILD.
03:31:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE OF THE OTHER ALLEGATIONS WE HAD IS THAT
THERE HAS BEEN LOTS OF PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS.
THIS IS A PRINTOUT OF THE WEBSITE.
STAND HAS BEEN POINTED OUT TO ME THAT, LOOK, ON THE WEB SITE
SHOWS PUBLIC MEETINGS.
YES, PUBLIC MEETINGS AND NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
BUT WHY IS IT ON OCTOBER 17, 2023, WHEN I HAD A MEETING WITH
THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS FROM FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT
NOBODY EXCEPT FOR MR. ADAMS KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS
PROJECT, IF PUBLIC MEETINGS HAD HAPPENED.
WHAT PUBLIC MEETINGS HAPPENED BEFORE THE ROUTE WAS CHOSEN
AND WHO WAS INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC MEETING?
03:31:42PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I HAVE A
DOCUMENT THAT TALKS OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
IF YOU GIVE ME ABOUT FIVE MINUTES --
03:31:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T NEED FIVE MINUTES.
SOMEBODY ELSE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION.
CAN YOU TELL ME WERE THERE PUBLIC MEETINGS BEFORE THE ROUTE
WAS CHOSEN?
03:31:59PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE ROUTE IS STILL NOT CHOSEN.
03:32:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS --
03:32:03PM >>VIK BHIDE:
A FUNCTION OF DESIGN.
AND DESIGN HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET.
COUNCIL APPROVES DESIGN.
03:32:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE A DOCUMENT HERE FROM THE PUBLIC
ENGAGEMENT PERSON.
A NOTE TO YOU AND AN E-MAIL THAT SAYS WE NEED TO BE SURE AT
THE PUBLIC MEETING TONIGHT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT BRISTOL HAS
ALREADY BEEN CHOSEN AND THE ROUTE IS SET.
I HAVE ALSO GOT ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT -- THAT IS FROM
SOMEONE ATKINS REALIS AND SAYS CITY ANTICIPATES THAT NO
FURTHER ROUTE ANALYSIS WILL BE REQUIRED.
AND I -- I AM TOLD THERE ARE OTHER DOCUMENTS AS WELL.
WHY IS IT THAT SUDDENLY WE ARE SAYING THAT THE ROUTE IS NOT
SET WHEN THERE ARE LOTS OF DOCUMENTS THAT SAY THE ROUTE HAS
BEEN SET.
03:32:48PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE HAVE NEVER SAID OTHERWISE.
COMMUNICATIONS INTERNALLY ARE ONE THING.
WHAT WE SHARE PUBLICLY AND WITH THE PUBLIC AT THESE FORUMS
AND AT PUBLIC MEETINGS IS WHAT COUNTS.
I'M HERE TELLING YOU WE HAVEN'T SELECTED A ROUTE.
WE HAVE GOING TO BRING YOU A DESIGN TASK THAT SELECTS THE
ROUTE.
03:33:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU SEE THE CONCERN --
03:33:09PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THERE IS NO DESIGN YET.
03:33:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SOMEHOW THE CITY BELIEVES THAT PUBLIC INPUT
IS TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THE ROUTE ALREADY SELECTED.
UNTIL TODAY, NO OTHER DISCUSSION OF OTHER ROUTES.
THIS ROUTE EVERYBODY SAYING WHY IS THE ROUTE ON HOWARD MAD.
03:33:25PM >>VIK BHIDE:
A DISCUSSION OF OVER 19 ROUTES.
WHAT I AM TELLING YOU TODAY IS THAT THE ROUTE SELECTION IS
PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.
IT BEGINS WITH THE DESIGN.
THE PLANNING STAGE WAS THE PLANNING STAGE.
03:33:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHY CAN'T WE NOT -- THE PROBLEM WITH
DESIGN-BUILD, THESE PROJECTS GO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER
BUDGET.
03:33:47PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THAT IS NOT TRUE.
NOT TRUE.
03:33:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU DON'T THINK HANNA AVENUE --
03:33:52PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I WILL OFFER YOU THIS.
EVERY MAYOR PROJECT, BE IT THEA, BE IT F DOT, THE COUNTY,
THE CITY PREFERS PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILDS FOR REASONS I
STATED.
03:34:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ONLY THING I AM ASKING FOR IS I AM NOT
DISPUTING THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO
SOMETHING BEFORE FOUR YEARS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS HERE NEED
SOME KIND OF RELIEF BEFORE FOUR YEARS.
03:34:19PM >> I WISH THERE WAS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION POSSIBLE.
03:34:22PM >> IN PALMA CEIA PINES UNDERNEATH THIS DOCTOR'S OFFICE,
SOMEBODY DOESN'T NEED TO DREDGE THAT RETENTION POND THERE.
WHAT THE CANALS IN PALMA CEIA PINES IT LOOKS LIKE THESE --
03:34:39PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I ALSO HEARD EARLIER THAT THE REPORT SPOKE OF
PROFILING ROADWAYS.
RIGHT BEFORE THIS STORM, WE HAD NOTICED ALL OF THE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS NORTH OF SWANN THAT WERE GOING TO DO RESURFACING.
WE ARE GOING TO DO RESURFACING THERE.
AND WE HAD THE STORMS.
PART OF THE RESURFACING WILL BE REPROFILING THE ROADS AND
ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT WERE DECIDED IN THE JMT REPORT.
PART OF OUR EARLY WORKS IS THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE A WHOLE EARLY WORKS PHASE THAT INCLUDES
MOVING UTILITIES.
REPAVING ROADWAYS THAT WILL BE D.O.T. ROUTES AS THAT PROJECT
MOVES FORWARD.
03:35:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT -- WHY CAN'T WE SEPARATE DESIGN AND
PUBLIC INPUT FROM BUILD?
03:35:24PM >>VIK BHIDE:
IT WILL DELAY THE PROJECT BY 24 MONTHS.
POTENTIALLY COST MORE --
03:35:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
03:35:30PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I SHARED THE REASON WHY SINCE YOU ASKED ME.
FIRST, IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO HIRE A CONSULTANT.
03:35:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AM NOT TALKING OF HIRING A DIFFERENT
CONSULTANT.
I AM TALKING ABOUT HOLDING A FINAL POINT WHERE YOU SAY TO
CONTINUE THE EXISTING PROJECT.
CALL IT DESIGN-BUILD IF YOU WANT, BUT TO CONTINUE THE--
03:35:50PM >>VIK BHIDE:
LET'S CALL THIS DESIGN-BUILD.
03:35:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL MAKE A MOTION IN THE NEXT -- I WILL
MAKE A MOTION -- TO GET RID OF ALL DESIGN-BUILD BECAUSE THEY
WASTE MONEY --
03:36:02PM >>VIK BHIDE:
A PRESCRIPTIVE SOLUTION THAT WE DON'T HAVE
EVIDENCE --
03:36:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE THEY
CUT ME OFF.
AND WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THIS MORNING THAT
MENTIONED THAT -- TO ME IN AN MEAL THAT HE HAD WASTEWATER IN
HIS HOUSE.
AND I SENT HIM AN E-MAIL BACK AND SAID THE WASTEWATER PEOPLE
TELL ME THAT THERE WAS NOT A WASTEWATER LEAK.
IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE OF IT, LET ME KNOW.
HE TOOK OFFENSE TO THAT.
I APOLOGIZED TO HIM IN THE HALLWAY.
I SAID IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE, LET US KNOW.
HE SAID EVERYTHING THAT HAD WASTEWATER IS GONE.
I DON'T HAVE PROOF OF IT.
I KNOW WASTEWATER IS NOT YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT DO YOU HAVE
EVIDENCE THAT WASTEWATER LEAKED INTO THAT AREA.
03:36:47PM >>VIK BHIDE:
AFTER STORMS, WE HAVE STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER
LEAKS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE POWER OUTAGES.
HE CAN'T GO INTO SPECIFICS BEYOND THAT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT MY
DEPARTMENT.
03:36:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, MIRANDA AND VIERA.
03:37:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THIS IS MY MOTION AND I WANTED TO GET AN UPDATE OF HOW FAR
THINGS ARE GOING.
I'M COMING AT IT FROM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I WAS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD OF OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND
SORRY, NOBODY ELSE HAD A TIMER AND I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR.
I WAS ON THE BOARD OF OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BEFORE I JOINED
COUNCIL AND HAD THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER
IMPROVEMENT START.
I WILL APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW IT WAS A SHIT SHOW.
EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE, BUT THAT'S IT WHAT IT WAS.
IT WAS FROM THE BEGINNING, AND -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS
THE WORST PART OF IT WAS WE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN.
AND MISS SHARFE.
I WILL ASK YOU TO SHOW THAT MAP.
SO THE DESIGN THAT WAS CHOSEN WITHOUT ANY COMMUNITY INPUT --
AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THE LITTLE GREEN THINGS
SAYS IGNACIO.
THAT IS CREST AVENUE.
THAT IS JUST A STREET OF HOMES.
JUST IT.
NOTHING -- NOTHING PARTICULARLY DIFFERENT FROM IT FROM THE
STREET ABOVE IT OR THE STREET BELOW IT.
WHY WAS IT CHOSEN?
HONESTLY, IT -- IT COULD HAVE BEEN OTHER AREAS.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN OTHER STREETS.
AND WE AS A COMMUNITY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT PROCESS.
THE CITY HAS LEARNED FROM THAT BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THIS
STREET, THIS LOVELY LITTLE STREET, A YEAR ONE FULL YEAR THAT
PEOPLE COULD NOT ACCESS THEIR HOMES WITH A CAR.
DIRT STREETS.
DIRT EVERYWHERE.
PEOPLE HAD TO PARK ON THE RIVER AND WALK IN THE HOME.
PARK ON NEIGHBORS' YARDS.
THE ENTIRE STREET WAS CLOSED.
TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WAS PUT IN THERE,
HIS SHARFE IS ABOUT -- I AM FIVE FOOT.
03:39:03PM >> I'M TALLER THAN THAT, BY THE WAY.
03:39:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SHE IS TALLER THAN ME.
BUT IF YOU PUT ANOTHER OF HER ON TOP AND IF BUT PUT HER SIDE
TO SIDE, TEN FOOT BY TEN FOOT CULVERTS ARE WHAT WENT ON THAT
STREET.
WHAT WENT ON CREST AVENUE.
I MEAN, WE ARE TALKING HUGE -- HUGE THINGS.
A LOT OF TRAUMA.
WE HAD WATER -- WE HAD ALSO INCLUDING THE STORMWATER VAULTS.
WATER OFTEN BOTH SIDE AND WASTEWATER ON BOTH SIDES BECAUSE
THEY COULDN'T CONNECT BECAUSE OF THE GIANTNESS OF THESE
CULVERTS.
THE INSULT TO INJURY ON PEOPLE ON CREST BECAUSE -- BECAUSE
THERE WASN'T THE INFORMATION SHARED AHEAD OF TIME.
CREST NEVER FLOODS.
A STREET THAT AUTOMATICALLY ANGLES TO THE RIVER AND DOUBLY
ANGRY BECAUSE THEIR STREET NEVER FLOODED AND NEVER TOLD OF
IT.
IT WAS A LOT OF DRAMA.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU IN THIS STORM, IN MILTON, SOUTHEAST
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
THIS IS THE RIVER.
SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
INTERSTATE CONSIDERABLY.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF NEBRASKA.
THAT WAS THE ACTUAL TARGET OF THE FLOODING.
AND FROM THE BEGINNING -- NOWHERE IN THAT AREA FLOODED THE
WAY THAT IT HAD BEFORE INCREMENTALLY IT GETS BETTER.
SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE SECOND DEGREE.
IDEA AND CAN'T WORK AND HERE IS WHY.
SAY THE -- WE DIVIDED INTO PARKLAND ESTATE ELECTION GETS
FIRST.
WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THAT WATER?
SO WE HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS.
BUT YOU HAVE OPTIONS.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CAN TALK ABOUT.
SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP BEING DONE IN 100 DAYS, THAT IS BECAUSE
24-7.
IT WAS PLANNED OUT 247.
FOLKS WORKING EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY.
COULD WE DO THAT?
YEAH, WE COULD WE COULD.
BUT THAT MEANS THAT MEANS THE NEIGHBORS NOT SLEEPING.
I MEAN THERE ARE OPTIONS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, IT IS POSSIBLE.
SO THE WORLD IT YOUR OYSTER.
Y'ALL CAN DECIDE THAT.
THAT IS NOT OUR DECISION.
THAT WILL BE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE DESIGN AND THE
CONTRACTORS, THAT IS NOT OUR DECISION.
SADLY SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER CLOSED FOUR LANES OF
FLORIDA AVENUE FOR OVER THREE WEEKS.
FOUR LANES.
I WILL TELL YOU THIS RIGHT NOW.
THAT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE STILL DON'T HAVE PAVEMENT
ON THAT BECAUSE WE ARE STILL FIGHTING WITH FDOT HOW THE
INLETS ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK.
STILL FIGHTING.
BUT -- AND IT WAS -- IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE -- IT WAS AWFUL.
ABSOLUTELY AWFUL.
WE DID WHAT WE COULD TO MANAGE TRAFFIC AROUND IT AND ALL WE
COULD DO.
YOU AS NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IMPACT READY GOING
TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT ZENNESS OF -- THIS IS AWFUL BUT IT IS
GOING TO PASS.
THIS IS A AWFUL AND IT IS GOING TO PASS.
I AM HAPPY TO TALK TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFLINE ABOUT
THAT.
BUT WE LEARNED -- THE PROJECT GOT SO BAD THAT WE HAD TO HAVE
THE CONTRACTOR COME EVERY TWO WEEKS TO COUNCIL -- EVERY TWO
WEEKS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
IT GOT THAT BAD.
WE -- I DID -- COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND I DID BOTH DID
TOURS EVERY OTHER MONTH.
WE WENT OUT AND GOT A FULL TOUR FROM X TO Z.
I MEAN EVERYTHING.
SO DEFINITE WAYS THAT COUNCIL AND THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT
YOU CAN MONITOR AND ASSIST.
BUT WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM THIS PROJECT.
I AM -- THE ONLY THING -- THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO
ADD IS WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- AND I DON'T DISAGREE.
I THINK WE -- WHEN EVERYBODY LOOKS AND SEES WHAT THE BEST
ROUTE IS, I HATE TO SAY THAT THINGS UNDER GROUND MATTER, BUT
WE OPENED A SMALL SECTION OF CENTRAL AVENUE AND HANNA WHICH
IS A BIG INTERSECTION IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BECAUSE HANNA IS
THE ONLY STREET THAT GOES UNDER THE INTERSTATE.
HOW PEOPLE GOES TO PUBLIC LICKS.
NO GROCERY STORE ON THE CEASE SIDE OF THE INTERSTATE -- ON
THE WEST SIDE, PARDON.
WHEN THAT WAS CLOSED, IT WAS CLOSED FOR ALMOST TWO MONTHS
BECAUSE ONCE THEY OPENED IT, AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
THERE.
THEY HAD TO TIME IT IN THE SUMMER.
IT HAD TO BE DONE BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED.
WHEN WE OPENED IT, THEY FOUND SO MUCH.
THEY WEREN'T PLANNING ON FINDING.
IN TERMS OF ADDITION TO UTILITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S
POWER WENT OUT.
NOT POWER, BUT PEOPLE LOST THEIR INTERNET MULTIPLE TEAMS.
THERE WAS A LOT THAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH THERE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS.
WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS.
IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO.
AND I -- I BELIEVE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE BUSINESSES,
AND THE CONTRACTORS CAN ALL FIND A WAY TO COME TOGETHER AND
MAKE IT WORK, BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE US.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THE CITY
LEARNED BEST WAS HOW TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS.
TOURING THE CLOSURE ON FLORIDA AVENUE, THAT WAS -- THAT WAS
IN FRONT OF THE INDEPENDENT.
THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THE -- MAJOR -- MAJOR RESTAURANTS.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID, WE DID A CAMPAIGN OF THE CITY.
THE MAYOR CAME OUT.
I CAME OUT.
WE WERE DOING PHOTOS OF US EATING AND VISITING THE
ESTABLISHMENTS.
ENCOURAGING THE NEIGHBORS.
BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORS LOVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD ESTABLISHMENTS
WE ALL MET.
03:45:26PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE HAD TWO MEETINGS THERE.
03:45:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS NOT GOING TO BE AWESOME.
NOT GOING TO BE GREAT.
PARTS THAT ARE AWFUL AND KNOW THAT.
KNOW THAT IT IS GOING TO BE BAD.
IT IS GOING TO BE BAD.
AND THEN BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WHEN IT IS NOT AS BAD AS
YOU THINK IT IS.
AND THAT IS REALLY -- THAT IS WHAT I THINK THE SOUTHEAST
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER WAS A VERY GOOD LESSON FOR HOW
WE GO FORWARD.
AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE INTERACTION THAT COUNCIL HAD TO HAVE,
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAD TO HAVE, THAT -- THAT --
THAT PROJECTS GOING FORWARD CAN AND WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE
WE ARE NOT GOING TO DEMAND ANYTHING LESS.
I AM SORRY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT ANYTHING LESS.
THANK YOU.
03:46:11PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT COUNCILWOMAN, BECAUSE
WE HAVE LEARNED FROM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
SPECIFICALLY.
AND THE PHASING PLAN WE INITIALLY PROPOSED AND IS STILL
AVAILABLE, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT IS A COMMUNITY PRIORITIES
CONVERSATION IS TO MITIGATE THESE LONG RUNS OF CLOSURE AT
ANY GIVEN TIME.
AND THE TO KIND OF SPREAD IT OVER TIME AND ALLOW THE
CONTRACTOR TO EXERCISE INNOVATIVE MEANS AND METHODS.
FOR THAT, KIMMINS -- THEY HAVE DONE GREAT WORK URBAN
ENVIRONMENTS IN TAMPA.
03:46:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DIDN'T MENTION THE CONTRACTOR BUT I WILL
SAY IT WASN'T KIMMINS.
03:46:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA REAL
QUICK REGARDING SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I GOT THE BULK OF ENDLESS
COMPLAINTS.
WE DID THE TOURS.
PERSON WHO TOOK ME ON THE TOUR ENDED UP GOING SOMEWHERE
ELSE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STORY WAS.
BUT IT WAS MISERABLE.
CREST WAS MISERABLE.
FLORIDA WAS IN MISERABLE.
SOME BUSINESSES WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.
NOT EVERYBODY SURVIVES IT.
LATER WHEN IT IS MY TURN TO TALK, I HAVE PHOTOS THAT I TOOK
BACK IN 2019 THE ESTRELLA, WESTSHORE, HENDERSON, DALE MABRY
PROJECT AND PEOPLE CAN SEE THE MAGNITUDE OF IT.
ONE THING OF SEEING A SKETCH ON ROAD CLOSURES, BUT I WILL
SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND VIERA.
03:47:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM IN ALL THE CONVERSATION.
I HAVE GROWN TOILET TO TAP, HURRICANES, TWO AND A HALF
DEGREES WARMER IN THE GULF WHICH IS TRUE AND TOILET TO TAP
THAT I KNOW OF NEVER KILLED ANYONE.
IF YOU WANT TO CHALLENGE FROM LAKE LANIER, TO SACRAMENTO,
THEY ALL USE TOILET TO TAP.
ENVIRONMENTALISTS WANT IT THERE.
ENVIRONMENTALISTS HERE DO NOT WANT.
SO BE IT.
NOT ONE LIVING MICROBE AS MUCH IN TOILET TO TAP AND IS
CLEANED UP.
HOWEVER, WE ARE TALKING OF THE DEVASTATION OF YOUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
DEVASTATION OF HALF OF THIS CITY.
WASN'T JUST YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU
GO TO DAVIS ISLAND.
YOU GO TO PALMETTO BEACH.
YOU GO TO RIVERSIDE EAST -- WEST OF THE RIVER AND WEST
TAMPA, ALL THOSE HOUSES, EVERY ONE OF THEM IS FLOODED.
HALF A BLOCK IN.
NOT ONE FLOODED.
SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS SOMETHING THAT WORKS SOMEWHERE
BETTER THAN OTHERS.
I THINK YOU ARE -- I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION HITS IT RIGHT
ON THE HEAD.
AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXPERT
FROM THIS COUNCIL.
NONE OF US HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS.
SO WHAT I AM SAYING IT, CLEVELAND AVENUE, WHEN YOU TALK OF
GRADING.
YOU AND I WENT TO SEE SOMETHING A YEAR OR TWO AGO.
AND WE STOPPED AND LOOKED AT IT.
AND THE ROAD IS ABOUT FOUR INCHES HIGHER THAN THE SIDEWALK.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK FLOODS?
THE HOUSES DON'T FLOOD, BUT THE GARAGES FLOOD.
IN NORMAL RAIN STORMS.
BUT WE -- THAT IS SO SMALL WE DON'T LOOK AT THAT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT FIXING THE PROBLEM WE HAVE NOW IN THE CITY
PERIOD.
I DON'T WANT TO TALK OF POLITICS AND THE FREEMAN
ADMINISTRATION AND THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION.
I DON'T WANT TO TALK OF ANY ADMINISTRATION, THE IORIO
ADMINISTRATION.
BILL POE'S ADMINISTRATION.
I WORKED WITH FIVE MAYORS ALL DIFFERENT AND ALL THE SAME.
THEY WANTED TO MAKE THE CITIES BETTER THAN THEY FOUND IT.
PERMITS WERE DIFFERENT.
THE WAY THEY COMMUNICATED WAS DIFFERENT.
NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
OTHER THAN THAT, YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF THE SYSTEM THAT YOU
ARE FOR.
AND YOU ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB MAKING THE PRESENTATION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON, THE CITY OF
TAMPA, GUESS WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THAT STORM WOULD
HAVE STAYED A LITTLE NORTH LIKE 15 -- WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING
HERE TODAY.
NONE OF US WILL BE HERE TODAY, BECAUSE THE WHOLE CITY WOULD
HAVE BEEN FLOOD IF I SAW WHAT HAPPENED.
AND HAPPENED IN THE WHOLE CITY.
NO MATTER WHAT SYSTEM YOU HAVE AT ONE TIME.
THIS IS AN ANOMALY.
SIX OR SEVEN STORMS HAVE FORMED IN THE GULF OF MEXICO IN MY
LIFETIME.
I ONLY SEEN TWO OR THREE HE YEAR, NOT SIX OR SEVEN.
AND IT IS NOW TWO AND A HALF DEGREES WARMER THEN IT WAS LAST
YEAR AND NOT GOING TO GET ANY COOLER.
WE HAVE ABUSED NATURE FOR MANY YEARS AND NATURE CAN'T TAKE
IT ANYMORE AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GETTING.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN PUT SOLAR AND TAKE YOUR GRASS OFF AND PUT
ROCKS.
LET THE WATER GO THROUGH AND COMES BACK WHERE WE CAME FROM.
DRINKING THE SAME WATER AS THREE AND A HALF MILLION YEARS
AGO.
SAME WATER.
HOWEVER, LET ME -- LET ME GO BACK TO TOILET TO TAP.
A LITTLE CITY EAST OF US THAT ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB BUT
POURING MILLION GALLONS OF TREATED WATER -- GUESS WHAT
WHERE?
IN THE GREEN SWAMP.
AND GUESS WHERE THE WATER COMES FROM?
THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, THE GREEN SWAMP.
NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME?
THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CORRECT.
IF I COULD GIVE YOU A SHORT ANSWER I WILL FIX IT NOW SO YOU
CAN HAVE PEACE OF MIND FOR YEARS, SIX MONTHS OR WHATEVER,
BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH NO HUMAN BEING HAS GONE
THROUGH IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ALONG WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT I
NAMED ALL OVER THE CITY.
SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED THAT I HAVE NEVER SEEN IN MY 30
YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE, NEVER.
AND IT IS BECAUSE NATURE CAN'T TAKE IT NO MORE.
THAT IS WHAT IT COMES TO.
I AM NOT FORMING EXCUSES, BUT TRYING TO FORM A RESOLUTION.
NOT A TEMPORARY ONE, BECAUSE THAT TEMPORARY ONE WILL NOT
WORK FOR WHAT IS COMING.
I AGREE.
HELP OUT.
THIS GENTLEMAN THAT SAID ALL THE FACTS TODAY.
HE -- HE IS A PROFESSIONAL OF PROFESSIONALS.
AND NECESSARY NOT HERE TO BS MEAN AND I AM NOT TALKING OF
BARBARA STREISAND.
I AM TELLING IT JUST LIKE IT IS.
I NEVER KNOWN HIM TO TELL ME A MISNOMER THERE IS NOT
FACTUAL.
TELLS ME YES, NO AND THE REASON WHY.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE ASKED AND WHAT HE IS DOING.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE SAID AND DONE.
I WANT MO TO MARCH FORWARD.
I WANT TO SAVE NOT ONLY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WHEN YOU
SAVE ONE, YOU SAVE THREE OR FOUR IN THE SAME LINE THAT IS
NEEDED.
WHEN UP SAVE THOSE, THE WATER CAN GO AND RUN OFF SOMEWHERE.
A CATASTROPHE THAT HAPPENED.
I WISH I HAD AN ANSWER AS TO WHY, I DON'T.
THANK YOU MUCH FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE.
03:52:40PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU.
03:52:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, HENDERSON AND THEN I
WILL WRAP IT UP.
03:52:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOUR BACK AND FORTH
IN BHIDE.
I THINK THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLE ON THIS PROJECT.
I PROBABLY STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT MARCH, APRIL
OF THIS YEAR.
IF I HAD TO GUESS APRIL.
MILTON IS A GAME CHANGER OF HOW I SEE THIS PROJECT.
WE KNOW THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN SOONER OR
LATER.
THE WAY I SEE IT, STAFF IS PUSHING TO MAKE IT SOONER.
AND THAT HAS A RATIONALE BASIS.
MORE OF A RATIONALE BASIS.
WHEN I TALKED TO FOLKS HERE WHO WERE AFFECTED, I -- I HAVE
MANY FEELINGS, BUT -- BUT ESPECIALLY OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
ONE OF MY BIGGEST FEELINGS IS, THERE IS A PLAN THAT CAN --
WE ARE TOLD BY STAFF WHICH WE RELIED UPON THAT CAN ADDRESS
THESE CHALLENGES.
WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
RIGHT.
AND NOT DOING SO AND IN EFFECT, TELLING THESE FOLKS THAT WE
WILL WAIT MORE AND MORE TIME TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS TO
ADDRESS YOUR PROBLEMS, ETC.
I THINK IS AN ABANDONMENT OF JUST A CORE GOVERNMENT
RESPONSIBILITY TO THESE FOLKS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT IS THE WORK THAT I THINK OF.
I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT IT MOVES FORWARD I WOULD RATHER HAVE
IT DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BRIEFLY THAT INVESTIGATIVE
INQUIRY.
THAT WILL INCLUDE SOUTH TAMPA IN TERMS OF THE CHALLENGES
THAT HAPPENED IN SOUTH TAMPA.
EVERY PART IT DIFFERENT.
EVERY PART IS DIFFERENT.
FOR ME IN PUBLIC OFFICE, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, YOU WILL MAKE
SOMEBODY ANGRY.
MIGHT MAKE PEOPLE ANGRY WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS RIGHT AND IN
YOUR EYES WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING.
THE BUCK STOPS HERE AND THE BUCK STOPS HERE.
WHEN SOMETHING IS LIKE THIS, KNEE TOAD TO GO FORWARD WHAT I
THINK IT RIGHT.
WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH VIGOR.
STAFF IS WORKING ON THIS ISSUE FOR SOME TIME.
WE GOT BRIEFED IN 20 IT22.
RIGHT NOW I DON'T REMEMBER IT.
I WILL TRUST YOU.
RELY ON YOUR STATEMENT THIS IS THE ONLY VIABLE ST. LOUIS
THAT CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A REAL SOLUTION FOR THIS
COMMUNITY OPPOSED TO SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
AND MAYBE THERE ARE, BY THE WAY, THINGS IN SHORT TERM THAT
WE CAN TO DO MET -- MITIGATE ISSUES, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
IS NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE DO NOT WANT MITIGATION, THEY WANT
LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.
LIKE YOU SAID MR. BHIDE.
I'M 46, WHEN I'M GOD WILLING 59 OR 100 WHEN I'M HERE -- I
KNOW, RIGHT -- THIS PLAN WILL STILL BE BENEFITING PEOPLE IN
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS IN NOVEMBER.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO
REQUIRE A LOT MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY INPUT.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE COUNCIL
UPDATES ON THIS.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS PART OF
THAT.
AND BY THE WAY, THERE ARE PLAN MOVES FORWARD, YOU CAN BET
YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR WE ARE HEARING FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE
AFFECTED BY THIS.
AND, BY THE WAY, THE BUCK STOPS HERE, JUST LIKE WE HEAR
FROM PEOPLE AFTER MILTON AFFECTED BY IN ADVERSELY, WE CAN
HEAR FROM PEOPLE ON HOWARD.
AGAIN THAT IS WHAT WE SIGN UP FOR AND SOMETIMES WE MAKE A
DECISION WHERE SOMEBODY WILL GET ANGRY AT YOU.
MIGHT AS WELL DO IT WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT.
I ALWAYS TELL FOLKS.
SO, AGAIN, I THINK THAT BY NOT GOING FORWARD BIGGER AT THIS
TIME, IT WOULD BE AS I INTERPRET IT AN ABANDONMENT OF JUST A
BASIC GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBILITY.
YOU THINK OF THINGS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH POLICE OR WITH
FIRE, YOU KNOW.
STORMWATER IS JUST A BASIC BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUE FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENT.
AND, AGAIN, TO THE EXTENT WE DO CERTAIN THINGS.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BLACK AND WHITE AND THIS IS GRAY.
THERE IS NO PERFECT WAY FORWARD.
I THINK IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAN THAT BEGINS THE BALL
ROLLING NOW AND PUTS A REAL ACCENTUATION INTO MITIGATING AS
MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE HERE TODAY, I
THINK THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO.
AND THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I WILL SUPPORT AGAIN.
POLITICAL BLOW BACK FROM THAT?
ABSOLUTELY.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE IN OFFICE TO DO IS TO TAKE THE HITS FOR
DOING THE RIGHT THING ESPECIALLY ON THOSE GRAYISH EWES WHERE
WE GOT TO SAY -- GRAY ISSUES AND WHERE WE SAY WE DEAL WITH
THIS.
03:57:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND THEN I WILL
WRAP UP.
03:57:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YAY, THIS IS A MY TURN.
AS A NEW COUNCILMEMBER AND GETTING ENORMOUS AMOUNT 67
COMMUNICATION FROM THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR
TOPIC, I JUST HAVE TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME HISTORY THAT I CAME
ACROSS AS I LIKE DOING THAT.
AS I SIT IN THIS SEAT, OCTOBER 18, 1888, MR. BRYANT AND A
FEW COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAME BEFORE THIS CHAMBER FROM THE --
FROM THE SCRUB.
AND THEY ASKED FOR ONE THING.
THAT JUST BLEW ME AWAY.
THEY ASKED FOR A WATER LINE INTO THEIR COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT.
THEY ALSO ASKED FOR JUST A FEW STREETS AND SOME LIGHTS.
SO I DID A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH, AND I LOOKED, AND ALL
OF THESE AMAZING COMMUNITIES ALREADY HAVE STREETS AND WATER
AND LIGHTS AND THE MR. McKNIGHT TOLD HIM TO PUT IN WRITING.
AT THE TIME IT WAS JUST PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WENT TO PUT IT IN WRITING.
TO THE CHAIR'S SURPRISE, MR. BRYANT CAME BACK IN THE CHAMBER
WITH A DETAILED OUTLINE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS ASKING
FOR.
AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW.
I -- I COME FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF TRUSTING OUR STAFF.
I LIKE DOING THAT.
THEY ARE THE EXPERTS.
WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEM.
AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION ALONG THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
BECAUSE THAT PART IS IMPORTANT.
YOU ALL ARE MEETING FOR YOUR COMMUNITIES.
THERE WAS A POINT WHERE YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER AND URN CUT
OFF.
THAT I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR AND YOU HAD A TOCK ULTIMATE
THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU -- IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU DID NOT GET A
CHANCE TO SAY THAT.
BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS GOING FAST AND HIS PASSION IS
GREATLY APPRECIATE.
WHAT I WILL SAY I DON'T BELIEVE ANY SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS TO
CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR COMMUNITIES.
I WISH IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
I FEEL BAD.
ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT I RECEIVED WAS SO, YOU KNOW,
IMPASSIONED AND DIRECTED TOWARD ME THAT MAYBE I WASN'T
SENSITIVE ENOUGH.
I CAN'T IMAGINE EXPERIENCED THE FLOODING THAT HAPPENED IN
PARKLAND ESTATES ALONG WITH FOREST HILLS ALONG WITH PALMETTO
BEACH AND BECOMES -- IT DOES BECOME PERSONAL BECAUSE SO MANY
PEOPLE LOST A LOT OF THINGS.
AND IT TRANSCENDS CLASS AND ECONOMIC STATUS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THINGS.
PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL OFF AS WELL AS PEOPLE ARE WORKING -- THE
WORKING POOR.
AND FOR THIS PROCESS THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SAYING WE NEED TO
START IN BAYSHORE AND IT WILL BENEFIT THE OTHER AREAS, I
WILL TRUST THAT.
I TRUST THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD PROCESS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A QUICK SOLUTION.
I KNOW WE WILL HAVE TO PRAY FOR THE STORMS THAT COME IN
BETWEEN THE FOUR YEARS IN WORKING TO GET THIS DONE.
I ACTUALLY DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO IF THE BENEFITS STARTS STARTING HOW YOU SAY WE ARE
STARTING AND THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD IS THE BEST WAY,
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN AND I KNOW BECAUSE OF HOW
THESE COMMUNITIES FIGHT IS THAT AS SOON AS THOSE STREETS GET
CHOSEN, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO COME DOWN HERE AND SOMEBODY IS
NOT GOING TO LIKE THAT THEIR STREET GOT PICKED.
I AM GOING TO LISTEN, BUT I AM GOING TO STICK WITH WHAT THE
RECOMMENDATION IS.
I AM JUST SAYING THAT PUBLICLY RIGHT NOW.
I AM SAYING IT.
I KNOW THAT YOU -- SOMEBODY MIGHT END UP HAVING TO TREK
THEIR GROCERIES A COUPLE OF BLOCKS TO GET TO THEIR HOUSE AND
GO THROUGH THOSE PAINS, YOU KNOW, OF THE -- OF THE ENTIRE
PROCESS.
BUT I AM THINKING OF MR. BRYANT WHO JUST ASKED FOR ONE LINE.
THAT IS WHO I AM THINKING ABOUT.
AND I AM THINKING OF IT THE PERSON WHO SOLD THEIR HOUSE IN A
FLOOD ZONE TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND IS THEIR HOUSE OKAY?
I MEAN IT JUST EXPANDS MY BRAIN IN THAT WAY.
AND SO IT IS -- I KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE AND I
APPRECIATE THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT CAME BEFORE US TODAY.
THAT SAID WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, A 13-YEAR-OLD AND A
14-YEAR-OLD BECAUSE THAT IS WHO I AM THINKING ABOUT.
AND I SAID THAT IN THE VIDEO WHEN I BECAME A COUNCILMEMBER.
I AM ALWAYS GOING TO BE THINKING OF THE FUTURE GENERATION SO
AS IT IS GOING TO HURT YOU WHILE IT IS GETTING DONE, BUT IT
IS FOR THE FUTURE.
AND I AM GOING TO STICK WITH WHAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
04:02:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANTED TO SHOW THE PHOTOS FROM 2019.
HE WILL HAND THE GAVEL.
IT IS ON MY PHONE.
THIS SHOWS YOU WHAT --
04:02:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. CHAIR, PLEASE HOLD YOUR COMMENTS UNTIL
YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE.
04:02:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GUIDO MANISCALCO, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
DO I NEED TO GIVE MY ADDRESS?
[LAUGHTER]
04:03:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE STALKERS.
04:03:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
EXCUSE MY LOOK.
I WAS 50 POUNDS HEAVIER HERE.
04:03:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHO IS THAT?
04:03:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS IS THE GUY I USED TO KNOW.
THIS IS -- I BELIEVE THIS IS ESTRELLA.
I BELIEVE IN IS IN 2019 DISCUSSION TO THE STORMWATER PROCESS.
SAME CONTRACTOR WE ARE DISCUSSING KIMMINS.
THIS IS ME STANDING BY STORMWATER.
AND TEN FOOT BY -- IT IS THE SIZE OF A SMALL KIDS BEDROOM.
THIS WHAT THE STREET LOOKED LIKE.
THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROJECT.
THIS IS WHAT HOWARD AVENUE LOOKS LIKE IF HOWARD AVENUE IS
CHOSEN.
YOU CAN GOLF CART, YOU CAN WALK, BUT IT WILL COMPLETELY
DISRUPT BUSINESS.
IF YOU DO IT ONE BLOCK AT A TIME OR TWO, IT IS BIG.
THIS IS THE MAGNITUDE OF IT.
THESE ARE THE STORMWATER VAULTS ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET IN
PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS AND RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND THAT WILL CONNECT
UNDER THE CHOSEN ROUTE.
SO IT IS -- IT IS A SIDEWALK-TO-SIDEWALK DIGGING.
20, 20 FEET, WHATEVER IT IS GOING TO BE TO PUT THESE IN.
IT WAS A -- IT WAS -- CAN I JUST TALK FROM HERE -- I DON'T
WANT TO TURN MY BACK TO THE AUDIENCE.
04:04:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MILES PER HOUR ATTRACTIVE FROM THAT --
04:04:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANOTHER COMEDIAN.
04:04:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL DO ANYTHING TO KEEP THE GAVEL.
04:04:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO THE AUDIENCE.
I DON'T WANT TO TURN MY BACK TO ANYBODY.
I TOLD THIS STORY AND I WILL TELL IT AGAIN.
I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR TEN YEARS -- I KNOW, I WAS 30
YEARS OLD AND NOW I AM 40.
BUT -- BUT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED THIS
STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT AND MAINTENANCE
ASSESSMENT, WHICH WAS A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
AND IT WAS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST VOTES I EVER HAD TO TAKE.
AND I REMEMBER, IT DROVE ME CRAZY.
JUST LIKE THIS LAST MONTH, THIS SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING
RELIEF.
I HAVE BEEN TOP PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
I HAVE MET WITH THEM IN THE COMMUNITIES.
I HELPED THEM GET THEIR DEBRIS PICKED UP.
WHATEVER I COULD DO.
IT HAS GOTTEN SO BAD BECAUSE I AM OBSESSED WITH WORK.
MY WIFE TOOK MY WORK PHONE AWAY AND SAID TAKE A BREAK.
MEALS AND PHONE CALLS.
GUIDO, THE COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT.
BUT I AM PASSIONATE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE
COMMUNITY AND GOING BACK TO 2015, 25016, THE PREVIOUS
ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED THIS ASSESSMENT.
I WENT BACK AND FORTH AND TRYING TO LOOK AT WHATEVER OPTION
I COULD BEFORE SAYING, YES, TO RAISING PEOPLE'S TAXES.
I PITCHED EVERYTHING TONIGHT MAYOR PERSONALLY AND EVERYTHING
WAS NO.
WHEN THE VOTE CAME UP, I VOTED AGAINST IT.
AND I ESSENTIALLY KILLED IT.
ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WAS NEW MOTIVATION FROM THAT
ADMINISTRATION.
THEY CAME UP WITH $20 MILLION IN COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX
MONEY TO MAKE CHEAPER AND LESSEN THE BURDEN.
AND THIS PROJECT WILL SAVE TAXPAYERS BETWEEN $30 MILLION TO
$40 MILLION.
STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PASSED SEPTEMBER 1, 015.
SEPTEMBER 1, A DARK AND STORMY NIGHT.
AND WHEN YOU TALK OF POLITICAL BLOW BACK.
I HEARD IT -- I HEARD IT FROM ALL THE ANGLES.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE ABLE TO DO THE HENDERSON
AND DALE MABRY FLOODING.
ESTRELLA GOING TO WESTSHORE.
SAME PROJECT.
SAME CONTRACTOR WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
BECAUSE OF THAT, ROME AND KENNEDY AND THE CYPRESS STREET
OUTFALL.
THAT FLOODED TERRIBLY IN 015.
AS I MENTIONED WITH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
THAT WAS PROBABLY THE WORSE OF IT, BECAUSE I AM CLOSE TO
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
I DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE BUSINESSES
CLOSED.
BUSINESSES WERE DEEPLY AFFECTED.
ON TO HAVE OF THAT, YOU HAVE COVID.
TIMING WOULDN'T BE WORSE.
PEOPLE WERE SEEING HIT AFTER HIT AFTER HIT AND I GOT SO MANY
COMPLAINTS.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WE APPOINTED HER TO THE BOARD.
THEN SHE GOT ELECTED.
BECAUSE SHE LIVES THERE.
AGAIN, I AM THERE ALL THE TIME.
COMPLAINTS WERE ENDLESS TO MY OFFICE.
WE HAVE COMPLAINTS AT PEOPLE'S OFFICES.
FRIENDS THAT LIVED THERE.
I WOULD PARK BLOCKS AWAY AND WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT.
ONE PERSON I REMEMBER I COULDN'T SAY ANYTHING RIGHT.
SHE JUST WANTED TO YELL.
AND IT WAS LIKE -- EVERYTHING IS OKAY NOW, BUT FOR MONTHS,
IT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET YELLED AT 24-7, YOU KNOW
MR. BHIDE, YOU TAKE A LOT OF HITS.
PEOPLE ASK WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A LIVING.
AVOID SAYING CITY COUNCIL.
I GET YELLED AT FOR A LIVING.
THEY SAY WHAT IT YOU THAT MEAN?
AND I EXPLAIN TO THEM.
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH PARKLAND ESTATES.
PALMA CEIA.
PINES NORTH OF THERE.
AND I WENT TO SCHOOL THERE.
I TELL PEOPLE I WENT TO THE GREEK SCHOOL.
IT WAS GREEK.
NOW THE CHURCH.
I WENT THERE.
I HAVE BEEN GETTING COFFEE N THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE HIGH
SCHOOL.
I HAD MY FIRST DATE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN I WAS 13 YEARS
OLD -- NO, I AM -- WE WENT TO THE MOVIES IT WAS AMC DOWN THE
STREET IN HYDE PARK.
I HAVE A LOT OF DEEP CONNECTIONS TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
BERN'S RESTAURANT.
WHALEY'S MARKET.
I AM GOING BACK -- MANY PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW, GOING BACK TO
THE '90S.
BUT MY CONCERN IS THIS.
I WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT IS IMPACTFUL AND
MEANINGFUL.
ARE WE GOING TO SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS?
NO.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP INTERESTING POINTS AND
CHILDREN.
MY ISSUE, WE MOVE FORWARD AND YOU HAVE TO SAY YES IN ORDER
TO GO FOR A DESIGN-BUILD OR DESIGN PUBLIC INPUT AND WE WILL
SELECT A ROUTE.
WHY CAN'T WE SELECT A ROUTE -- MY CONCERN IS, WHY DOES IT
HAVE TO IMPACT HOWARD?
I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP THAT YOU PUT UP.
AND IT WAS NUMBER THREE.
AND I LOOKED AT IT CLOSELY AND IT SAYS MORRISON -- GOING
ACROSS MORRISON TO ALBANY.
WHY IS ALBANY A NARROW RESIDENTIAL STREET.
YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU DEAL WITH ESTRELLA EVEN THOUGH IT WAS
TERRIBLE.
IT WORKED -- KIMMINS WAS ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WHY HAVE SOMETHING MORE DEFINITIVE BEFORE WE SAY YES.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY YES TO SOMETHING AND WE LOSE CONTROL.
LOOKING AT THE DOCK DAYCARE ULTIMATE AND CITY SAID NO ROUTE
ANALYSIS WILL BE REQUIRED.
WHY HAS BRISTOL CHOSEN AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT ROUTE IS SET.
THOSE SENTENCES THERE CONCERN ME.
I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND WHEN THEM ALREADY MADE THEIR MIND, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS
CONVINCE COUNCIL TO SAY YES.
I HAVE BEEN DOING POLITICS LONG ENOUGH AND I LEARNED NOT TO
TRUST PEOPLE.
NO OFFENSE TO ANYBODY.
BUT WHEN YOU GET BURNED REPEATEDLY, YOU ARE SUSPICIOUS OF
EVERYBODY.
SO WHAT GUARANTEES DO WE HAVE?
YOU SAY, COUNCIL, IT HAS GOT TO COME BEFORE YOU.
IT HAS GOT TO COME BEFORE YOU.
AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAID YOU APPROVED THE -- THE
CONTRACT IS SIGNED.
THIS COULD GO TO THE COURTS IN A LAWSUIT.
AND, WELL, THE SHIP HAS SAILED.
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT SAFETY NETS DO WE HAVE, BECAUSE I
AM NOT GOING TO HAVE BLOOD ON MY HANDS PHILOSOPHICALLY WITH
PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS PROJECT NOT BEING DONE.
PUTTING BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYED IN THAT AREA.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING RIGHT THING WHEN YOU GO
INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND LOST EVERYTHIBG,
WILL THE CITY COME AND PICK -- I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT.
CHILDREN AND TRAUMA.
I HAVE TROUBLE SLEEPING BECAUSE OF WORK.
IF PEOPLE HOW MUCH WORRY OF WAKING UP WITHOUT POWER AND
WATER UP TO THEIR KNEES.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING AND OUR GOOD PERSON.
WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.
BUT I WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING THAT IS LEAST IMPACTFUL.
MY THING IS, I DON'T WANT TO HURT PEOPLE.
YES THESE ARE TOUGH POLITICAL POSITIONS, BUT PEOPLE HAVE
SUFFERED.
THIS IS AWFUL.
I HAVE KNOWN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE I WAS A KID.
SO THAT'S IT.
04:11:45PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU.
FIRST, THANK YOU FOR SHARING SOME OF YOUR PAST.
THOSE NICE STORY THERE IS.
SO ON THE ROUTES.
WHY NOT THE ALBANY ROUTE OR THE GEORGIA, MISSISSIPPI ROUTE
OR SOME OF THE OTHER ROUTES THAT ARE SHOWN.
HE WANTED TO PUT TOGETHER A MATRIX OF DIFFERENT FACTORS.
THE FACTORS BEGAN OF MOVING WATER FIRST, BUT LOOKED AT
IMPACTS, IMPACT TO TREES, AVAILABLE WIDTH OF THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
LIKE YOU SAID A NARROW STREET.
THE CHALLENGE OF A NARROW STREET AND A VERY BIG BOX CULVERT
OR EVERYBODY AROUND THE PROPERTY PROVIDES AN EASEMENT THAT
GOES THROUGH POOLS, BACKYARDS AND HOPEFULLY BACK YARD AND
NOT FRONT YARD WILL IMPACT WASTEWATER CONNECTIONS WHICH ARE
TYPICALLY IN THE BACK YARD.
THE OTHER THING WITH ALL OF THESE ROUTES UNFORTUNATELY BUT
TRUE, THE BOX UNDER CSX.
THE SCHEDULE WAS A DRIVING FACT ARE.
THE THIRD DRIVING FACTOR IS CAN IT CONNECT TO AN OUTFALL ON
BAYSHORE ULTIMATELY BECAUSE THAT WILL BE VERY DISRUPTIVE AS
WELL.
TODAY OUR PROBABLY BEGINS AT BAYSHORE.
SHOULD COUNCIL MOVE IT FORWARD.
EIGHT TO TEN WEEKS ON BAYSHORE.
NOT MORE THAN.
TO BUILD A WHOLE BOX AT BAYSHORE A MUCH BIGGER IMPACT.
EVEN WITH THIS IMPACT TWO LANES IN EITHER DIRECTION.
STILL ACCESS.
IF WE WERE TO CONSTRUCT IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE
ACCESS BECAUSE YOU ARE BUILDING THAT OUTFALL TO BAYSHORE ALL
THESE CONSIDERATIONS AN LET ME TOUCH ON TREES A LITTLE BIT
MORE.
HUGE IMPACTS TO GRAND TREES ALONG -- HUGE IMPACT TO GRAND
TREES ALONG THE ALBANY AND GEORGIA ROUTES.
AND THEN FINALLY IN THE 09-TURNS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
WATER DOES NOT LIKE TO MAKE 90-DEGREE TURNS.
IT IS HARD AND THE DESIGN IS CHALLENGED AND DOESN'T WORK AS
WELL.
ALL THESE FACTORS THAT BEGIN WITH WHAT A VIABLE.
THE GIST OF IT.
AND INTERESTING STORY ON THE BERN'S CELLAR AND THE WINE.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT KIMMINS WAS SELECTED FROM THE OTHER
TWO CONTRACTORS BECAUSE OF THEIR ATTENTION TO DETAIL.
DURING THEIR PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THEY USED TO
PROTECT BUSINESSES WAS RECOGNITION OF THE WINE CELLAR
UNDER BERN'S AND TALKING OF MANAGING VIBRATION AND MANAGING
ACCESS THROUGH THAT SEGMENT.
SO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT WILL BE SENSITIVE
TO A LOT OF THESE NEEDS.
BUT THERE IS TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S POINT, THERE IS NO
SCENARIO OF NO IMPACT.
THERE WILL BE IMPACT.
04:15:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. BHIDE, IS IT A QUESTION OF MONEY IF
WE FIND AN ALTERNATE?
I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE JUST REVIEWED THE C.I.T. FOR ANOTHER
15 YEARS.
I TOLD YOU MY STORY OF GETTING MORE MONEY THAT -- THERE WAS
NO OTHER OPTION BACK THEN UNTIL I SAID NO.
AND $20 MILLION AND.
IF IT IS AS MATTER OF MONEY, I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE
PROBABLY COST AS LITTLE BIT MORE TO BE -- TO BE LESS
IMPACTFUL TO -- I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE
HOMEOWNERS, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EMPLOYED THROUGHOUT THAT
CORRIDOR.
I COME FROM A FAMILY OF SMALL BUSINESSES.
F IF THIS WAS THEIR BUSINESS, I WOULD TELL THEM TO SELL
THEIR PROPERTY -- THEY DON'T OWN THIS THEY RENT.
MOVE OUT AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YES, WE SURVIVED COVID.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAY THIS HURRICANE WILL MAKE COVID LOOK
LIKE A CAKEWALK AND COVID WAS MISERABLE.
A MATTER OF MONEY IF WE CAN DO THIS AND GO DOWN SWANN.
IF WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
IF WE CAN DO LIFT STATIONS, PUMP STATIONS, WHATEVER IT IS,
LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I AM HAPPY TO -- TO ENTERTAIN AND
SUPPORT.
IF IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE, IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
BUT IF WE DO THE RIGHT THING, WE DO THE RIGHT THING.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE AND THEN WE
WILL WRAP IT UP.
04:16:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, EVERYBODY SAW YOUR PICTURE SO NOBODY BELIEVED THAT YOU
HAD A DATE BACK THEN.
SO -- [LAUGHTER]
04:16:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WOW.
04:16:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE DATES.
MOTHER GOT IMPACTED BY -- WE BROKE UP 25 YEARS AGO BUT TIE
-- MY WIFE TIES INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:17:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL CIRCLES AROUND.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE LISTENING, UNLESS THERE IS SOME
OTHER MAGIC FORMULA THAT I AM NOT LEERING.
WHAT MR. BHIDE TOLD US, IN OUTFLOW ON HOWARD IS -- I MEAN,
THAT -- THAT IS -- THAT IS WHERE WE ARE STARTING.
THAT -- THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO START.
NOT LIKE WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS THING TO BEACH PARK OR
TAKE THIS THING TO WHEREVER, IT IS GOING -- ITS GOING --
THAT LAST SEGMENT BE THE HOWARD BAYSHORE SEGMENT.
SO WE START OFF ON THAT ASSUMPTION THIS IS WHERE THIS WATER
IS GOING TO GO BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, THAT IS WHERE WATER GOES,
IT IS FLOWING DOWNHILL AND IT IS DOWN HILL.
INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
AND I APPRECIATE THIS -- SOME OF THAT FIRST BRIEFS THAT I
GOT ON THIS PROJECT WAS THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS YOU ARE
PROMISING FOR HOWARD, THE SECTION BETWEEN THE CROSSTOWN AND
BAYSHORE ALREADY HAVE SOME TREMENDOUS IMPACTS.
I THINK ULTIMATELY, THE IMPACTS, BECAUSE OF THE TREMENDOUS
SIDEWALK, LANDSCAPE, LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS WILL MITIGATE THE
IMPACT THAT THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE ON THAT SEGMENT.
SO I THINK QUALITY -- ONE, FOR THE BUSINESSES WILL IMPROVE
THE BUSINESSES AND IMPROVE THEIR VIABILITY.
AND ALSO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT LIVE IN THAT
GENERAL VICINITY.
THE PORTIONS -- THERE IS -- THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT
I AM STILL CONCERNED GO.
I AM -- WHAT I AM HEARING -- YOU INITIALLY STEERED CLEAR OF
THAT SWANN, HOWARD.
LESS RIGHT TURNS WHEN YOU DO THAT.
LITERALLY TAKEN TWO RIGHT TURNS MADE IT INTO ONE.
INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS MONEY AND YOU HEARD FROM THE
CHAIRMAN.
HEARD TO MAKE A MORE REASONABLE LESS IMPACTFUL PROJECT,
LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT.
IF THAT IS WHAT WORKS AND MAKES SENSE, LET'S FIGURE IT OUT
AND WE WILL TRY TO FIND IT.
I WILL KEEP GOING BACK AND MAKES SENSE TO ME.
WHEN WE THINK THROUGH STAGING COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
ONE LITTLE PROBLEM AREA BETWEEN BRISTOL AND SOUTH -- ONE
BLOCK SOUTH OF BRISTOL ON HOWARD AND DIFFICULT TO GET AROUND
BECAUSE OF THE CONFIGURATIONS AND PROBABLY WE HAVE AGAIN
AWAY PROPERTY IN THE PAST AND BUILT ON IT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY THROUGHWAYS ANYMORE.
EVERYTHING ELSE -- WE CAN GO NORTH AND AROUND -- WHAT IS IT,
THE STREET -- THE CVS UP THERE TO GET RIGHT AROUND THAT.
OTHER OPTIONS OF CIRCLING AROUND.
THE ONLY OTHER THINGS WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IF WE HAVE TIME
TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT
COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS HIT ON.
BECAUSE A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERETO THAT SOMEHOW THIS
COUNCIL HAS BEEN LAX AND WE HAVE IGNORED THIS AREA FROM
PARKLAND AND ALSO FROM SWANN TO KENNEDY.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN A PROJECT -- THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY
NOT CONCEIVED FOR THIS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE ARE DOING IF WE HAVE TO EXPAND
THE SCOPE AND DIP FURTHER NEAR STORMWATER WHATEVER THEY HAVE
TO DO TO PURSUE MORE GRANTS TO MAKE SURE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
IS TAKEN CARE OF THAT IT OCCURS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS.
WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THIS MORNING THE AREAS IN PALMA
CEIA FURTHER SOUTH OF THIS.
A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND MAKING SURE.
I KNOW YOUR OFFICE IS DOING THIS, BUT PEOPLE LISTENING TO
THIS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD -- A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF JUST
THIS, KNOWING THAT WE HAD SOME PRETTY DEVASTATING FRESH
WATER FLOODING AROUND -- WE ARE NOT TALKING OF SURGE
FLOODING BUT FRESH WATER FLOODING FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
THAT WE HAVE A PLAN.
AND SOME OF THIS MAY BE JUST AS SIMPLE AS MAKING SURE WE DO
THOSE DITCHES.
AND WE HAVE A REGULAR SCHEDULE THAT MAYBE THIS IS
HIGHLIGHTED SOME AREAS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON.
AND WE HAVE A ROUTE THAT EXPERIENCE FRESH WATER FLOODING
THAT THE CITY WILL RESPOND TO THAT AND LOOK WHAT THE CAUSES
OF THOSE IN THE POCKET NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE ARE NOT IGNORING
YOU.
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
BUT THE CITY STAFF IS ON TOP OF IT.
WITHER GOING TO PURSUE THAT.
YOU WILL FIGURE OUT WHY IT FLOODED.
IF WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A PROJECT OR JUST MAINTENANCE.
TALK OF MILLING ROADS.
TALKED OF THESE ROADS BEING UP HIGH.
SO THE SEWER SYSTEM WAS HERE.
AND WE KEEP LAYERING ROADS AND CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO AND I
WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
EVENTUALLY A ROAD YOU REPAVED SEVEN TIMES OVER THE LAST
SEVEN YEARS AND INLET HERE AND A SLIVER OF SPACE FOR WATER
TO COME TO.
MILLING BACK THE ROADS AND RECLAIMING THAT AND SOME OF THE
AREAS IS THE SOLUTION I AM HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WILL COME
BACK AND HOPE THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT COMES BACK WITH -- WE
IDENTIFIED THESE AREAS AND THESE SOLUTION.
IF IT IS BACK-UP GENERATORS AT FOREST HILLS, WHATEVER THOSE
THINGS ARE THAT CAN SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS, THAT YOU GUYS COME
FORWARD TO TELL US, ONE, WHAT THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE
OBSERVED.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS THAT WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION FOR.
WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE.
HOW MUCH ITS GOING TO COST AND WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GET THE
MONEY.
THANK YOU.
04:22:19PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MENTIONING THAT.
I WILL JUST TOUCH UPON REAL QUICK, COUNCIL APPROVED A $5
MILLION WATER SHED MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THAT IS OUR STORM WARE PLAN.
THAT GOING TO INFORM THE NEXT ROUND OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THAT IT WHAT IT DOES.
THAT WORK IS UNDER WAY.
I CAN'T THANK THIS COUNCIL ENOUGH FOR THAT.
ON NOVEMBER 18, WE WILL HOLD A MULTINEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD.
THE COMMUNICATION IS ALREADY OUT ON THAT.
WE WILL DO THAT AND CONTINUE TO ENGAGE.
AND THEN ON JANUARY 257 -- OR 23.
I AM NOT SO SURE, COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE A MOTION TO COVER
THIS WITH SHORT TERM SOLUTION RELATIVE TO STORMWATER AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT IS WHEN WE WILL HAVE BETTER INFORMATION AND GENERATORS
AND WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE SHORT TERM.
A POINT WAS MADE EARLIER TODAY ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND THAT IS
CRITICAL.
WE TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENT.
THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
BUT IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED RELATIVE TO OUR NEEDS AND COSTS
TODAY.
I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THANK YOU.
04:23:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND CLOSE OUT WITH
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN -- WELL, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WILL
BE THE CLOSER.
04:23:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I JUST WANT -- I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE WATER SHED
MITIGATION PLAN BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP
THAT OUR STAFF IS ALREADY WORKING ON THE NEXT ITERATION.
THIS IS -- THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WE NEEDED TO TAKE
CARE OF, AND I AM SO AND HAPPY TO SAY THAT OUR CITY HAS BEEN
FAR AHEAD THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN THE STATE LOOKING AT THIS
BEFOREHAND.
WE KNOW -- WE KNOW WE ARE A CITY THAT HAS THIS KIND OF
IMPACT.
AND MILTON AND HELENE JUST PROVED IT TO US THAT WE WERE
RIGHT TO GET STARTED.
IF WE COULD HAVE STARTED 20 YEARS BEFORE THAT, GREAT.
BUT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
AND WE ARE BET YOU ARE OFF WHERE WE WERE.
AND I DO WANT TO NEXT THAT -- THAT THE MILLING.
A LOT OF THAT IS ALLEYS.
A LOT OF THAT IS ALLEYS.
BECAUSE ALLEYS ARE WHERE STORMWATER GOES A LOT OF
COMMUNITIES.
AND I -- I HAD TALK TALKED TO YOU ABOUT EVEN CREATING A --
WHEN WE FIXED THESE ALLEYS AND LOWERED AND MILLED THEM, THAT
BECOMING ANOTHER WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN USE THEM FOR RECREATION
WHICH IS A HUGE ISSUE IN THE SUMMER.
ALLEYS ARE SHADED AND TREED.
A ONE-TWO PUNCH.
TO USE STORMWATER FUNDS FOR THAT WORK.
WE ARE FIXING THE ALLEYS AND ADDING MAYBE A LITTLE PARKS
MONEY ON TOP OF THAT TO HELP -- TO HELP MAKE IT MORE USABLE
SPACE.
SORT OF A TWO-FOR-ONE.
THE REASON I TURNED ON MY MIC, I AM DEFINITELY CONCERNED OF
BUSINESSES AND MAKING SURE WE DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO MITIGATE
ANY OF THE IMPACTS BECAUSE THESE ARE WEEK AND MONTH IMPACTS.
ONE OR TWO MONTHS, NOT YEAR IMPACTS.
WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS FIND A WAY TO HAVE MORE PARKING
SOMEWHERE.
TO HAVE WAYS THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE -- ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO COME TO HOWARD AVENUE TO USE THESE BUSINESSES AND
THE NEIGHBORS TALKED ABOUT -- HOW THIS FOCUS IS IMPACTED
THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO GET THEIR FUNDS AND WHERE
THEY ARE GOING TO VISIT.
SO I JUST -- I DO WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A FOUR-YEAR
PROJECT DOES NOT MEAN FOUR YEARS OF NOT ACCESS -- NOT HAVING
ACCESS TO HOWARD AVENUE.
ONE THE HOWARD AVENUE SECTION IS DONE WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE
THE -- HONESTLY LOOKING AT ANY OF THE THOSE PATHWAYS, THE
SHORTEST LEAST IMPACTFUL PART.
THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO VISIT THOSE BUSINESSES AND I THINK
THAT WE HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO HELP.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MORE THINGS WE CAN LEARN HERE.
AND I AM JUST SAYING I AM COMMITTED TO WORKING ON THAT.
I AM SUBMITTED TO DRIVING DOWN AND PATRON SIZING THOSE
BUSINESSES PERSONALLY AND ENCOURAGING OTHERS IN THE
COMMUNITY DO SO BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY WE GET THROUGH THESE
TYPE OF PROJECTS.
04:26:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND MIRANDA WILL
CLOSE US OUT.
04:26:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST, I WANT TO SAY TO THE FOLKS HERE AND
TO THE ONES WATCHING ONLINE, I TOLD EVERYBODY PUBLICLY CLOSE
AND PRIVATELY.
I AM 100% COMMITTED TO FINDING A SOLUTION.
I DON'T LIKE THE SOLUTION ON THE TABLE.
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHERS DON'T
LIKE THE SOLUTION.
THE CONFLICT HAS COME FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE ARE BATTLING
THAT WE SHOULDN'T OPEN IT TO ADDITIONAL IDEAS.
VIK, IF YOU COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL, IT CAN'T BE A REGULAR
DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT.
IT HAS TO BE A PROCESS WHERE THE PUBLIC IS ENGAGED AND
LOOKING TO GIVE INPUT INTO IT.
I USED TO DO PUBLIC INPUT FOR A REASON.
YOU WANT TO SELL A PROJECT.
WHAT COLOR YOU WANT IT TO BE AND WHAT CORNER YOU WANT TO
START WITH FIRST.
PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND CLEARLY NOT PUBLIC INPUT.
NOT REAL PUBLIC INPUT DONE BEFORE LAST YEAR OR BEFORE EARLY
THIS YEAR.
THERE WERE MEETINGS SINCE THEN, BUT NO REAL BIG PUBLIC MEET
BUGS SOME NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, AND I AM DISAPPOINTED OF
THE WAY THE MAYOR AND HER POLITICAL ADVISOR I UNDERSTAND
WENT TO MEET WITH A SMALL GROUP AND NOT A LARGER GROUP OF
PARKLAND ESTATES AND ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WOULD RECOMMEND A MEETING OF EVERYONE ONCE YOU START THE
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
COMMUNICATION ON THIS HAS BEEN TERRIBLE.
YOU HAVE THE BEST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PERSON, MICHELLE
ROBINSON.
YOU HAVE THE BEST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PERSON.
SHE ABSOLUTELY KNOWS HOW TO DO IT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH HER RIGHT TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC INPUT.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THE -- FOR THE PUBLIC, MY SKEPTICISM IS --
IS -- AND GUIDO ALLUDED TO, MY ADMINISTRATION GOT THINGS
PRESENTED TO US THAT WE FOUND OUT WAS COMPLETELY FALSE.
YES, WE TRUST ENGINEERS BUT WHEN THE CITY SAYS WITH HE MUST
PAY $6 BILLION ON A TOILET TO TAP AND RUN OUT OF WATER AND
PROVE THAT IT IS FALSE AND THEY FINALLY ADMIT IT IS FALSE
AND I CAN GO OVER AND OVER AND GIVE YOU HUNDREDS EXAMPLES.
WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A TRACK RECORD OF PRESENTING
THINGS THAT -- THAT DON'T BUILD TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY AND
DON'T BUILD TRUST FOR COUNCIL, IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING TO US.
WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY PRESENT SOMETHING THAT PRESENT
SOMETHING TO US AND THEY GET US TO APPROVE IT AND ANOTHER
BITE OF THE APPLE.
WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US, THEY SAY YOU ARE ALREADY APPROVED
IT AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING FURTHER.
THEY SAY YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE ON IT AGAIN.
WE DON'T TRUST THEM -- AT LEAST I DON'T TRUST THEM BECAUSE
THEY HAVE DONE BEFORE AND SAID YOU ALREADY PROVED IT.
THE PUBLIC HAS TO HAVE INPUT INTO THE PROCESS AND THE ROUTE.
SOUNDED LIKE FROM YOUR STATEMENTS AFTER YOU AND I TALK
THE ROUTES ARE ALREADY SET.
AND -- AND WE KNOW FROM THE DOCUMENTS IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS
SET.
YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE IT OPEN AND ONE TIME YOU HAVE
TOLD ME 14, 19, WHATEVER THE ROUTES, WHATEVER THE SOLUTION
WE HAVE TO OPEN THAT UP.
ALSO, IT -- IN THE PUBLIC OUTREACH, NOT JUST IMPORTANT TO
UNDERSTAND THE ROUTES AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO TALK OF
DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
HISTORIC HYDE PARK.
NOT EVERYBODY SHOWED UP TODAY BECAUSE THEY FIGURED THIS WAS
A REGULAR UPDATE.
THEY CAN WATCH IT ON TV.
BUT THE NEXT TIME WE WILL HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE ONE OF THE
CONCERNS THAT BUSINESSES SAID IF THIS GOES DOWN HOWARD, THEY
WILL FILE A LAWSUIT.
IF IT GOES DOWN SWANN, MAY HAVE A LAWSUIT.
IF YOU DON'T DO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WHICH HAS BEEN HORRIBLE
FOR DATE, WE WILL DEFINITELY GET LAWSUIT.
WHY SHOULD THE COMMUNITY CARE OF A LAWSUIT, BECAUSE IT CAN
DELAY IT BY A YEAR OR TWO.
IF WE DO PROPER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
WE CAN PREVENT THIS ON THIS EDGE.
I HAVE A MOTION I WILL MAKE LATER ABOUT SHORT-TERM
SOLUTIONS.
BUT I REALLY THINK WHAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE SMALLER THINGS,
WE NEED TO PACKAGE IT ALL TOGETHER AND EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC
THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS.
EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT I HAVE HEARD TODAY
THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS ONLY BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR A YEAR
OR LESS.
THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN AT IT FOR TEN YEARS AND HAVEN'T DELAY
IT IS.
THEY ARE GOING TO ASK US WHY DIDN'T YOU TOP IS IT FROM
HAPPENING.
YOU JUST STAYED YOU CAN'T STOP IT.
NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS, THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE
RENOVATION AND MIGHT GET FLOODED.
I HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TRY TO PREVENT THAT.
AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR SOLUTION ON THAT.
LAST THING IS WE ALL AGREE TO DISAGREE AT TIMES.
MY JOB OUTSIDE OF THIS HAS BEEN CONTINUE TO BUILD COMMUNITY
IN DIVISIVE ISSUES.
THIS IS MORE DIVISIVE THAN TOILET TO TAP.
MOST DIVISIVE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHY.
OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH TAMPA AND OTHER PLACES AND NOT
AS DIVISIVE AS THIS.
ASK EVERYBODY.
OPEN TO MEETING WITH EVERYBODY.
I WALKED IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND SAT IN PEOPLE'S HOUSES AND
HAPPY TO TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT ANYTHING.
WANT PEOPLE TO BE TAUPE A TRANSPARENT PROCESS THAT ENGAGES
THE PUBLIC PROPERLY SO WE CAN GET THE RIGHT SOLUTION.
I DO NOT WANT TO LOOK AT THE MAPS AND THESE MAPS MAY NO
LONGER BE VALID, BUT I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT
THIS MAYOR MAY NOT BE HERE WHEN THIS PROJECT IS DONE.
UP DON'T WANT TO PROVE SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE SAY WHY ARE
YOU WASTING ALL THIS MONEY AND WE ARE STILL GETTING FLOODED.
04:32:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:32:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MISS HURTAK, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK THE WAY
YOU DID AND BRING IT UP.
PARKING.
A LOT OF PARKING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA IN THE PARKING SPACE IN
EVENINGS.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER PLAN TO KEEP THOSE -- KEEP THOSE PARKING
SPOTS OPEN AND HAVE A TRANSFER SHUTTLE BETWEEN US AND THEM
AND THE -- AND SOLVED FOR MUCH LESS MONEY.
IT WILL BE GREAT TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO HELP US.
THAT IS THE BUSINESS.
TO CREATE THE TAXES THAT KEEP THE GOVERNMENT RUNNING;
HOWEVER, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT IF THE CITY CAN WAIVE THE
PARKING FEES AND BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT IT IS DOING TO HELP
THE CITY.
I THINK THOSE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
I SAW A BUS THE OTHER DAY BELONGED TO -- I AM NOT GOING TO
SAY WHO -- BUT A BRAND-NEW BUS THAT SITS 60 PEOPLE AND OTHER
BUSES 12, 15 THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE.
YOU CAN BORROW THAT AND 20 OR 30.
I AM NOT GOING TO BE THE DRIVER.
LET ME GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
I DON'T DRINK, BUT I ALSO DON'T DRIVE VERY WELL.
WHAT I AM SAYING IS WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS, I BELIEVE.
AND MAKE IT WORK IF WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THE BUSINESSES AND
WITH THE CITY TO SAY, THIS IS 150 SPACES TO ARE WHATEVER YOU
HAVE, WE CAN USE THESE AND, YOU KNOW -- I THINK IT COULD
WORK.
I REALLY DO.
I THINK THAT IS JUST PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE.
YOU CAN LOOK INTO IT.
SPEAKING TO THE YOUNG LADY RUNS THE OPERATION HOW MANY
SPACES ARE NEEDED.
04:34:23PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE ARE OPEN TO ALL KIND OF CREATIVE SOLUTIONS
AS IS THE CONTRACTOR.
04:34:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BHIDE ON NOVEMBER 18, YOU HAVE A
MULTINEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
IS THAT WHAT I HEARD?
04:34:36PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THAT'S CORRECT.
04:34:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PARKLAND SOUTH, PARKLAND NORTH.
04:34:40PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS WATER SHED.
BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL.
NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
04:34:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHEN AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
04:34:53PM >>VIK BHIDE:
GREAT QUESTION.
I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
04:34:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?
SIR?
04:35:01PM >>VIK BHIDE:
BAYSHORE BAPTIST CHURCH.
04:35:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
6:00 BAYSHORE BAPTIST CHURCH NOVEMBER
18.
04:35:09PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES, SIR.
04:35:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
COUPLE OF THINGS VERY BRIEFLY.
WE TALKED OF SWANN AND DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
IF WE WERE TO DO IT HERE, WOULD HAVE CHALLENGES OF SWANN AND
RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT BACK.
BECAUSE YOU THINK SWANN WILL GO, OH, BRING IT ON.
THAT IS GREAT.
NO.
YOU WILL STILL HAVE THE SAME CHALLENGES.
MY MESSAGE AGAIN THAT MILTON FOR ME CHANGED A LOT OF THINGS
IN TERMS OF HOW WE SEE THINGS.
IT DID.
I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU ALL.
CHANGED ME IN TERMS OF THE THINGS I HAVE THAT SEEN.
I HAVE BEEN -- WHEN IT COMES TO MY AREA NORTH TAMPA, I HAVE
BEEN RELENTLESS IN WORKING WITH PEOPLE OUT THERE, ETC.
BECAUSE -- BECAUSE SEEING THINGS -- THINGS I HAVE SEEN
HAVE JUST -- CHANGED ME.
I DON'T WANT TO -- HAVING SEEN THOSE THINGS PASS BY LIKE
THIS TO IMPROVE THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
AGAIN, WE GO DOWN SWANN.
WE LOOK AT WHATEVER, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CHALLENGES AND
TAKE SOMEBODY OFF.
NATURE OF THE BUCK STOPPING RIGHT HERE.
04:36:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT CONCLUDES THIS PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE AND EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE THIS MORNING
AND WHO IS WATCHING.
ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL GO TO ITEM 75.
A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
04:36:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE A QUESTION, IF I MAY.
DOES THIS COME BACK TO US IN NOVEMBER?
DO WE NEED A MOTION ON IS IT?
04:36:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT IS ON THE AGENDA.
04:36:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOOD.
SO WE DON'T --
04:37:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, SIR.
04:37:03PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DAVID INGRAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
WOW, WE MET -- LIKE WE HAD A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK.
I AM GLAD IT WAS SO MEMORABLE FOR YOU.
04:37:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I APOLOGIZE.
04:37:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE THIS BODY, IT IS GOOD NOT TO BE
RECOGNIZED.
04:37:26PM >> SOME DAYS, UNDER THE RADAR.
04:37:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ASK ABBYE.
04:37:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT IS THE TIE.
04:37:34PM >> I CAN TAKE IT UP.
AN OVERVIEW OF THE ADVERTISING CONTRACT THAT WAS ISSUED LAST
MONTH.
TO GIVE YOU A QUICK BACKGROUND.
AN EXISTING SIGN PACKAGE IN THE BUILDING A LITTLE OVER TEN
YEARS.
15 LOCATIONS WITH MONITORS IN IT THAT CAN PUT UP DIGITAL
ADVERTISING.
LITTLE OLD.
LITTLE OUTDATED.
WE ALSO HAVE AV PROVIDER ENCORE IS THE ONE THAT MANAGED FOR
US.
THEIR GOAL IS TO RENT AV EQUIPMENT TO OUR CLIENTS.
NOT MANAGING A DIGITAL NETWORK.
SHOWN BY THE REVENUES.
LESS THAN 5% OF WHAT THEY BRING IN FOR THE OVERALL REVENUE
FOR THE YEAR.
WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION,
UPGRADE FOR TECHNOLOGY, THE NEED FOR US TO HAVE A PERSON
SELLING AND MANAGING THE SIGNAGE TO INCREASE REVENUE AND TO
BASICALLY PROVIDE AN UPDATED CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE FOR US AT
THE CENTER.
WE WANTED TO ISSUE AN RFA IN CAPTURED WHOLE THING.
AUGUST OF '23, WE ISSUED OUR RFP.
WE HAD THREE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED.
OF THOSE THREE BIDS, ALL QUALIFIED AND MOVED TO THE
PROCUREMENT COMMITTEE BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2023.
EXPERT DIGITAL IS THE ONE THAT WON ITS AWARD AND BASE AND ON
THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, RESPONSIVENESS THEY RECEIVED THE
HIGHEST SCORE FROM THE PROCUREMENT THE COMMITTEE.
TOURING THAT TIME, NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT THROUGH PURCHASING.
LEGAL REVIEW IT AND FINANCE REVIEW IT AS WELL.
AND CAME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL BACK IN SEPTEMBER 2024 TO BE
APPROVED FOR -- FOR US TO GO AHEAD.
IT IS A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO INITIAL OPTIONAL YEARS
FOR RENEWAL.
LOOKING AT IT THE OVERALL, A TOTAL OF A FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM.
AT THE END OF THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER INTO OCTOBER 2024, WE
DID START INSTALLATION PROCESS.
PHASE ONE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ALL THE DIGITAL SIGNAGE OVER
OUR EXHIBIT MALL WILL BE COMPLETED.
AND ACTUALLY I HAVE REALLY GOOD NEWS.
THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY UP AND
RUNNING OVER THE WEST AND CENTRAL HALL.
OPINION IT IS VERY DYNAMIC.
IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT WHEN YOU WALK UP THE STAIRS AND INTO
THE UNIT.
THE EAST HALL AND WEST HALL WAS COMPLETED.
PROGRAMMING WILL BE FINISHING A WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF AND
BEFORE THE DEADLINE OF DECEMBER WHICH IS GREAT NEWS FOR US.
04:39:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WILL THEY BE NEXT WEEK FOR THE NLC?
04:40:03PM >> PUT ME ON THE SPOT, WOW.
04:40:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
KEEP GOING.
04:40:06PM >> WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST REALISTICALLY.
WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO -- THREE EVENTS ALREADY FUTAG,
IMMORTAL SEATS AND THE TATTOO SHOW.
WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T DISRUPT THEM.
PROGRAM, WE WILL TRY TO DO IT BEHIND THE SCENES AND WITH
TECHNOLOGY, WE MAY HAVE TO ADJUST SOME THINGS.
FINGERS CROSSED.
THE TWO EXTERIOR ONE WILL BE DONE.
BUT ONE CENTER UP AND RUNNING -- UP AND RUNNING SINCE I --
YOU HAVE TO COME OUT AND SEE IT.
04:40:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL COME OUT.
04:40:41PM >> GOT IT.
TOTAL CHANGE FOR THE FEEL CENTER.
A COUPLE OF OBJECTIVES IN THIS CONTRACT.
INCREASE THE DIGITAL FOOTPRINT FOR THE CENTER AND SERVICES
FOR OUR CLIENTS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, LOOK AT ADDITIONAL
REVENUE SOURCES WE COULD POTENTIAL A LEGAL GET IN THIS
DISPLAY.
KEY COMPONENT TO HAVE ONE PERSON DO IT AND ON-SITE DEDICATED
TO SELL TO LOCAL BUSINESSES, CLIENTS THAT HAVE ADVERTISING.
AND CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUES, THEY ARE THERE TO TAKE CARE OF
IT.
THE OTHER PART ON THE SLIDE, PART OF THE CONTRACT THEY ARE
REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN, OPERATE, REPAIR AND REPLACE THE
SIGNAGE.
HAVING SOMEBODY ON-SITE ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT AND TAKES THE
BURDEN OFF THE CENTER AND THE CITY AND MAKE SURE IT IS TAKEN
CARE OF.
A REVENUE SHARE 45% OF THE GROSS SALES OF THE SIGNS COME
BACK TO THE CENTER.
20% OF TEMPORARY AND MOBILE SIGNS THEY RENT TO OUR CLIENTS
AND WANT TO THROW IT IN THERE FOR TEMPORARY MOBILE.
IF YOU HAVE ALL BEEN TOP A CONVENTION BEFORE, LARGE METER
BOARD THAT ARE USUALLY PAPER AND TAKE UP A LOT OF THE SPACE.
OUR CLIENTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO RENT DIGITAL ONES THAT CAN
BE MOVED AROUND AND HAVE THAT SAME INFORMATION.
WE WILL GET 25% OF THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT STRUCTURE FOR -- OR THE PAST HISTORY
FOR HAVING -- HAVING DETAILED INFORMATION ON REVENUE.
SO WE DID A REALLY ULTRACONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS FOR FIRST
THREE YEARS.
YEAR ONE 200,000 AND BY THE TIME YEAR THREE, 285,000 THAT WE
ARE PROJECTING.
VERY CONSERVATIVE.
REVENUE SHARE IS $95,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND $128,000 FOR
THE YEAR -- FOR YEAR THREE.
FOR YEARS FOUR AND FIVE, WE DID NOT PROJECT OUT BECAUSE WE
WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD HISTORY BEFORE WE MOVE
FORWARD WITH THAT.
OTHER COMPONENT, AS IT RELATES TO THIS, THIS IS ALL SALES.
IF SALES GO UP, REVENUES GO UP, OUR COMMISSION GOES UP.
IF THEY GO DOWN, WE ARE STILL GOING DOWN AT THAT POINT IN
TIME.
THE OTHER KEY COMPONENT FOR THE CONTRACT IS CAPITAL
CONTRIBUTIONS.
A ONE-TIME CONTRIBUTION FOR CAPITAL, INVEST $161,000 FOR
HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR THE DIGITAL SIGN PACKAGE IN THE
CENTER.
NICE THING ABOUT THAT.
AND I KNOW -- THERE IS AN AD IN HERE BETWEEN 11 TO 15 SIGNS.
MINIMUM WE ARE LOOKING TO SPEND FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO WHEN WE FIND THE BEST LOCATIONS FOR
IT, LOCATIONS DAYCARE TAPE SIZE.
SIZE STATES COST AND OUT OF THAT $161 THOUSAND IN.
BUT NICE THING NOT COMING OUT OF US BUT FROM THE COMPANY AS
PART OF THEIR CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ANNUAL MARKETING FUND THEY ARE FOLLOWING
CONTRIBUTE $1,000 ANNUALLY.
$10,000, USE IT WITHIN THE YEAR FOR THE YEAR AND WE CAN'T
ROLL IT OVER AND IT HELPS WITH THE MARKETING CAMPAIGN
OPINION IF YOU SEE THE OLD SIGN ON THERE.
WHAT I REALLY LIKE TO POINT OUT.
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WHEN YOU ARE IN PERSON, BUT THE OLD
SIGN IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
THE OLD SIGN IS DIGITAL.
TRULY AMAZING.
GRAPHICS ON THERE.
WE HAVE THE PORT INVASION FOR GASPARILLA AND REALLY DYNAMIC
WHEN THEY COME IN.
THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
04:44:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:44:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
JUST -- I -- I AM JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU PLAN ON DOING WITH
THE MONEY YOU GET --
IN DO YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR -- SO -- SO OUR CONTRIBUTIONS --
WHAT IS YOUR PLAN?
04:44:21PM >> THE REVENUE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET HELPS
RUN OUR OPERATING SUBSIDIES.
IT DOESN'T COME BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND MAKE IT A ONE FOR
ONE EXPENSE.
$1,000,000 COMES IN, IT HELPS TO COVER THE EXPENSES FOR THE
CENTER COVER EVERYTHING FROM LABOR TO UPDATES TO MAINTENANCE
REPAIRS.
IT IS ALL ENCOMPASSING.
NOT A DEFINED $90,000 GOING RIGHT TO THIS.
04:44:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON.
THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO PAY FOR -- PAY FOR YOURSELF
BASICALLY.
04:44:53PM >> WE ARE TRYING.
04:44:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
VERY COOL.
04:44:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:44:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE TOUR.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING.
IT JUST UPLIFTS THE -- THE CONVENTION MALL.
WONDERFULLY AS -- YOU KNOW, AS YOU ENTER INTO THE PARTICULAR
CORRIDORS.
THE -- THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS -- IS THIS THE SAME
COMPANY THAT IS GOING TO -- YOU KNOW THE BIG SIGN OUTSIDE
THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY BEING USED.
04:45:24PM >> THE MARQUEE FROM THE CENTER?
04:45:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE MARQUEE.
IS THIS PART OF THE IMPROVEMENT PROCESS?
04:45:29PM >> YES AND NO.
WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS BACK IN 2019, THIS BUDGET ALLOW
US TO SPEND $175,000 TO RENOVATE THE MARQUEE.
AT SOME POINT IN TIME BETWEEN COVID HAPPENING THAT PROJECT
GOT SHELVED AND THE PRIORITY BECAME TO HAVE THE EXPANSION
COMPLETED.
SO WHAT GOING TO DO TO TAKE THE $175,000 BUDGETED FOR THE
MARQUEE AND MAKE THE INVESTMENT INTO THE MARQUEE.
WE ARE GOING TO USE THEIR SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO RUN WHAT IS
ON THAT SIGNAGE.
AND THE SAVING GRACE TO THAT TWO-FOLD IS WE DON'T HAVE TO
WORRY OF A TECHNICIAN COMING OUT TO PUT THAT ON THERE.
NUMBER TWO, ALL BASED ON THE CODE, THE CURRENT SIGN CODE IS
WRITTEN INTO THE CONTRACT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ADJUST
EVERYTHING.
SAVING GRACE SHOULD THE SIGN CODE CHANGE, WE WILL HAVE TO
MEET THE SIGN CODE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
IF ANYTHING CHANGES, WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO UPDATE THAT.
04:46:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MR. JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU NO LONGER HAVE
TO EXPLAIN WHY WE ARE NOT A ENTERPRISE ZONE BUSINESS IN THE
CONVENTION CENTER.
THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT TO ME LAST WEEK.
YOU ARE OFF THE HOOK.
04:46:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NICE JOB ON IT.
OBVIOUSLY THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS THAT DATED 1980s LOOK.
THIS IS ONE WAY TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE MODERN AND
PIZAZZ TO IT.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
04:46:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ARE YOU CONSIDERING PAINTING OUTSIDE?
I AM JUST CURIOUS.
04:46:59PM >> YOU WILL TAKE ALL MY SURPRISES.
YOU WANTED TO DO THIS PERIODICALLY.
04:47:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WILL TAKE UP THAT ON ANOTHER DAY.
04:47:06PM >> JUST A QUICK PIECE.
WE DID -- WE ARE GOING TO DO THE -- SORRY, THE CAMPUS
ASSESSMENT FOR EXTERNAL AND INTERIOR.
PART IS PRICE.
NOT JUST PAINT, STICK PAINT ON TO IT, A PRODUCT FROM THE
RIVERWALK THAT SEALS THE CONCRETE AND MAKES IT SMOOTH AND
HAVE AT THAT BETTER COLOR TO IT.
I AM NOT SURE THE PINK OR WHATEVER COLOR YOU CALL IT IS
THERE, BUT THAT IS THE INTENT TOP GET RID OF IT.
TO PUNT THIS IN THE OVERALL CIP MASTER PLAN INSTEAD OF DOING
ONE-OFFS HERE AND THERE.
04:47:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD THING NOT '70s, AVOCADO GREEN.
IT WAS '70s, IT WOULD BE COMING BACK.
04:47:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
04:47:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOR OUR BUDGET ANALYST FOR
ENGAGING.
04:48:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
04:48:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT YOU WERE STALKING HIM.
04:48:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I WANTED TO GET ON CAMERA, DENNIS ROGERO,
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
MY THANK YOU TO THE CONVENTION CENTER OF PROACTIVE SEEKING
OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING COUNCIL
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
SUPPLEMENTAL FINANCE THAT MISS COPESKY AND I HAVE BEEN
DISCUSSING.
AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY RELEVANT IN THIS CASE AND OTHER
CASES IN THE CITY.
AND THOSE ARE THE LIMITS WE HAVE ON ENJOYING REVENUE SHARING
FOR OUR ASSETS.
THE PRIVATE ACTIVITY TEST AND TRIGGERED BY DIFFERENT
COMPONENTS.
FIRST COMPONENT IS A PUBLIC FACILITY.
A CONVENTION CENTER IS A PUBLIC FACILITY.
SECOND YOU USE TAX EXEMPT DEBT TO EXPAND THAT ASSET IN SOME
WAY FOR THAT ASSET.
IF I COULD HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU WOULD -- LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT
04:49:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE IT IS.
CAN YOU SEE THAT OKAY, COUNCIL.
HERE IS THE SECOND TRIGGER.
HAVE YOU ENJOYED TAX EX- EXEMPT FINANCING ASSOCIATED WITH
THIS ASSET, AND WE HAVE.
HERE IS THE CURRENT STATE.
NEARLY $45 MILLION.
I WILL NOTE AND OVER ON THE RIGHT.
THE BALANCE IS ZERO.
WE OBLIGATED THE FUNDING IN ITS ENTIRELY BUT WE ARE STILL
MAKING THOSE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS AND THIS IS WHAT THIS IS
ON THE PUBLIC ACCESS AND THE THIRD COMPONENT AND THAT IS
SEVERELY RESTRICT CAN HOW MUCH WE CAN ENJOY THE PRIVATE
BUSINESS.
THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT'S REVENUE SHARING.
I WILL LOOK TO THE ELMO AGAIN.
A COVER PAGE TO THE GOVERNMENT FINANCIAL ASSOCIATION PRIMER
ON TAX EXEMPT DEBT.
DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING PROCEDURES FOR POST ISSUANCE,
ETC., ETC.
IT IS AS RIVETING AS IT LOOKS.
04:50:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT WAS A VERY GUIDO JOKE.
04:50:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
TAKING LESSONS, TAKING LESSONS.
04:50:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I DIDN'T GET IT.
[LAUGHTER]
JUST SAYING.
04:50:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
SPOILER ALERT.
IT IS NOT RIVETING.
NOT RIVETING AT ALL.
WHAT IT BOILING DOWN TO, NO MORE THAN 10% ARISING FROM OR
RELATING TO PRIVATE BUSINESS USE.
AND THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE PRIVATE BUSINESS USE IS THE
REVENUE SHARING.
SO -- AND A LITTLE BIT -- A LITTLE BIT OF BEHIND THE SCENES
WHAT WE DO IN FINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY, AS AN
ENTITY, IS ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW.
IF YOU EXCEED THE 10% THRESHOLD, THE BONDS LOSE THE TAX
EXEMPT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT YOU NOT HAPPEN PAUSE IT IS
VERY, VERY VALUABLE TO US.
AND VERY VALUABLE TO OUR INVESTORS.
LITTLE MORE TRIVIA.
WHY DOES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DO THIS?
BECAUSE IN THE ABSENCE OF THE RESTRICTIONS YOU CAN ISSUE TAX
EXEMPT DEBT AND CONSTRUCT PRIVATE SECTOR BUSINESSES AND REAP
THE PROFITS.
EXACTLY WHICH I WOULD LOVE FROM A REVENUE PRODUCING
PERSPECTIVE, BUT THAT IS BASICALLY PUTTING THE THUMB A
LITTLE TOO HEAVY ON ITS SCALE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE THEY LIVE US THIS TAX EXEMPT BENEFIT
UNDER THE PROMISE THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE IT FOR PRIMARILY
PUBLIC PURPOSE.
AND THAT IS WHAT I AM -- THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO
INTERSECT HERE.
SO EVERY YEAR, WE RUN THE NUMBERS, WE COMPLICATE THE
INFORMATION, WE REVIEW THE INFORMATION.
NOT JUST MY SHOP, BUT OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, OUR BOND
COUNSEL, FEDERAL EXPERTS SO WE DON'T MEET OR EXCEED THAT
TEST.
WE CAN OWNED MAKE SO MUCH MONEY -- AND AGAIN, THAT IS WHY I
PARTICULARLY COMPLIMENT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR CONTINUING
PRO ACTIVITY ON THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING
IS IN BALANCE BECAUSE OF THAT TAX EXEMPT DEBT.
BEHIND THE SCENES INFORMATION AS WE -- AS WE CONTINUE TO TRY
TO EXPAND COUNCIL AND PUBLIC'S EDUCATION ON PUBLIC FINANCE.
04:53:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:53:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVER A SITUATION WHERE THE CITY ISSUES
NONTAX EXEMPT DEBT.
04:53:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YOU MEAN TAXABLE DEBT?
04:53:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAXABLE DEBT.
04:53:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
WE ISSUED SOME IN THE PAST AND PARTICULAR
CRITERIA.
THE TAX DEBT AND IT IS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING LARGE
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT -- THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
AND IF WE FOUND THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE MORE
ADVANTAGEOUS FROM A FINDING PERSPECTIVE TO ISSUE TAXABLE
VERSUS TAX EXEMPT, WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND
TYPICALLY GRAVITATE TO THE TAX EXEMPT FOR THE BENEFITS THAT
WE GET FROM IT.
04:53:53PM >> I MAKE AN ASSUMPTION THAT DURING THE LINE OF BUSINESS
THAT WE HAVE, THAT THERE IS SOME DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS
AND NEVER AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXCEED THESE LIMITATIONS WITH
THESE RULES?
04:54:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
KIND OF EBBS AND FLOWS.
FOR INSTANCE, WE WILL HAVE AN ASSET WITH TAX EXEMPT AND WE
PAY IT OFF AT WHICH CASE THIS RESTRICTION GOES AWAY.
UNTIL OR IF WE DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THIS.
04:54:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
04:54:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:54:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, ALL.
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THANK YOU.
04:54:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ABBYE FEELEY IS UP WITH ITEM NUMBER 76.
YES, MA'AM.
04:54:36PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
ABBYE FEELEY.
AN UPDATE WHERE WE ARE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROCESS.
WE ARE IN THE ASSESSMENT PHASE.
YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAD A PUBLIC KICKOFF SEPTEMBER 16.
AT THAT KICKOFF, WE HAD 80 PEOPLE ONLINE AND CLOSE TO 90
PEOPLE IN PERSON.
SO WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT FOR THAT MEETING.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE POSTED AN ONLINE SURVEY LEADING UP
TO THE KICKOFF AND CEMENT THAT OPEN AFTER THE KICKOFF ON
OCTOBER 1.
WE HAD CLOSE TO 500 RESPONSES TO OUR ONLINE SURVEY WHICH WAS
REALLY AWESOME.
THE CONSULTANT IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE ASSESSMENT
PORTION IN THE TIMELINE THAT COMES BEFORE WE GET THE FIRST
DRAFT OF THE CODE.
IN OUR ASSESSMENT THEY TELL US WHAT IS UPDATED AND PROPOSE
HOW THEY ARE GOING TO REORGANIZE IT AND SOME OF THE PROPOSED
THINGS THAT WOULD BE IN IT.
THAT IS -- WITH STAFF RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE REVIEWING THAT.
AND IT IS -- IT IS FIVE CHAPTER DOCUMENT.
ONCE WE PROVIDE OUR COMMENTS BACK, THAT WILL THEN GO TO THE
ADVISORY TEAM THAT WE HAVE.
REMEMBER THE ADVISORY TEAM IS MADE UP OF TWO MEMBERS FROM
T.H.A.N.
AN A TENT, A LANDSCAPER, A NATURAL RESOURCES PERSON, WE
HAVE NAIP, NTVA, LAND USE ATTORNEY.
A 12-MEMBER TEAM THAT WE ARE ALSO USING TO PROVIDE ANOTHER
LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND INVOLVEMENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
WITH THIS BEING SAID, LOOKING TO HAVE OUR NEXT PUBLIC
MEETING AND HAVE THE ASSESSMENT PRESENTED AND FEEDBACK TAKEN
BY THE PUBLIC LAST WEEK OF JANUARY.
THAT TUESDAY NIGHT THAT YOU HAVE NOW SET THE BAYSHORE
REZONING HEARING FOR.
SO I AM GOING TO MOVE THE PUBLIC MEETING OUT TO FEBRUARY 4.
I WOULD REQUEST OF COUNCIL -- WHAT I WAS THINKING THAT WE
DID IT THAT WEEK OF JANUARY.
YOU HAD A WORKSHOP THAT WEEK AND HELPING TO HAVE THE
CONSULTANT COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU AT THE
WORKSHOP TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
SHARE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WITH YOU INSTEAD OF JUST
THE UPDATES I AM PROVIDING TO YOU.
SO I WOULD ASK IF POTENTIALLY FEBRUARY 6, WHICH I UNDERSTAND
IS A REGULAR MEETING, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE 10 TO 15 MINUTES
FOR A PRESENTATION JUST SO THAT -- AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO
ANSWER ME TODAY.
YOU CAN ANSWER ME NEXT MONTH OR WHATEVER.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO START TO GET THAT TEED UP, BECAUSE WE DO
REALLY TRY TO MARKET THESE MEETINGS, PROVIDE INFORMATION
ABOUT THEM.
PUT A SURVEY INSTRUMENT UP.
GET FEEDBACK AND CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED WITH THE PUBLIC ON
THIS PROCESS.
04:57:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CLENDENIN --
04:57:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DEFER TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:57:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MISS FEELEY TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS IT MY MOTION TO HAVE HER COME THE FIRST WEEK OF
EVERY MONTH.
THAT HAPPENS TO BE -- FEBRUARY 6 IS WHEN SHE IS ALREADY
COMING TO APPEAR, BUT WE ARE GOING TO EXPECT A LONGER
PRESENTATION.
04:57:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS FINE.
THAT WORKS.
MR. SHELBY.
04:57:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT, RATHER THAN
JUST SAY A DISCUSSION OF THIS TO GO TEN MEMBERS.
MAYBE MY SUGGESTION WOULD TO BE LIMIT STAFF REPORTS TO WHAT
EXISTS TODAY AND NOT ADD TO THE FEBRUARY 6 STAFF REPORTS.
04:57:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A VERY LIGHT AGENDA.
04:58:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WILL MAKE NOTE OF IT AND SHOW UP -- IT IS
MR. THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ADD NICK TO IT.
OR AMEND SOMETHING THAT HAS A CONSULTANT, YOU HAVE ABOUT I
THINK WE SHOULD REMAIN MINDFUL AS WE APPROACH THAT WE KEEP
THAT SO WE DON'T RUN OUT OF TIME.
04:58:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY DON'T WE JUST LIMIT IT TO FIVE.
04:58:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD, FEBRUARY 6.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:58:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MISS FEELEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
BRIEFING.
THERE IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT -- ABOUT
THE LENGTH OF TIME THIS IS GOING TO TAKE THE CITY TO
ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK.
I TRIED TO CLEAR THE PORTFOLIO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING.
I WON'T HOLD IT TO US FOR THOSE WHO DON'T MAKE THE DEADLINE.
MAKE A GUESSTIMATE HOW MUCH WE WILL HAVE A PROCESS TO
COMPLETE THE PROCESS.
04:58:57PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I HAVE A SCHEDULE AND IT IS IN THE AGREEMENT
WITH THE CONSULTANT, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME TODAY AND
MY BRAIN -- I -- I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK.
04:59:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WILL NOT HERE IN --
04:59:11PM >> CAN I BRING THAT SCHEDULE BACK TO YOU WHEN I COME DECEMBER
5TH?
04:59:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ABSOLUTELY.
04:59:19PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ON THAT FEBRUARY 6, I AM TRYING TO BE
EXTREMELY MINDFUL OF THE BUDGET WITH THE CONSULTANT.
THEY WILL DO THAT TUESDAY NIGHT MEETING.
WEDNESDAY WE WILL DO WORK AND THURSDAY MORNING WE WILL
PRESENT TO YOU, AND I WILL HAVE HIM HERE.
WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE A TIME CERTAIN SO THEY CAN MAKE
ARRANGEMENTS.
04:59:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY CHARGE BY THE HOUR.
04:59:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO A TIME CERTAIN DIRECTLY OF A PUBLIC
COMMENT.
04:59:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WILL IT BE --
04:59:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
POINT IS TO HAVE THEM IN THE MORNING SO THEY
CAN LEAVE.
04:59:54PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
SO THEY THINK GO BACK TO NORTH CAROLINA.
05:00:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
ATU MEMBER OF THE MONTH.
AROUND 11:00 -- SO -- I WILL MAKE THE MOTION -- I MOTION
THAT WE HAVE THE -- THE PRESENTATION -- A TIME CERTAIN RIGHT
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:00:14PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THANK YOU.
05:00:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
05:00:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO TALK OF THE DATE, BUT I HAVE
ANOTHER QUESTION.
WE ARE TAKING IT OFF OF THE JANUARY WORKSHOP.
05:00:33PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I NEVER GOT TO PUT IT ON THERE.
THAT WAS MY GOAL COMING TODAY.
AND I THINK LAST -- LAST MEETING WAS WHEN YOU WERE WORKING
WITH MISS -- I WANTED TO SAY -- MISS WELLS TO GET THAT
BAYSHORE HEARING SET.
I WAS TEEING UP IN MY MIND MY SCHEDULE AND GETTING TOGETHER
WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT HAPPENED.
AND I NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK AND APPRECIATE YOUR
FLEXIBILITY TODAY.
05:01:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONLY ADDITIONAL THING.
I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HAVE A COPY OF THE CONSULTANTS REPORT
BEFORE -- AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE CITY RECEIVES THEM.
IS THERE A WAY WE CAN ALL GET THE E-MAILS OF THE ACTUAL
REPORT.
WHATEVER IT IS.
UP SAID IT IS IN -- I FORGET WHAT YOU CALLED IT.
A -- A SITUATION -- A SITUATION REPORT?
WHAT --
05:01:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THEY ARE DOING THE ASSESSMENT.
05:01:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF WE CAN GET THAT THE SAME TIME THAT
EVERYBODY ELSE DOES SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE
CONSULTANTS HAVE TO SAY AS WELL, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
05:01:42PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
A FIVE-CHAPTER DOCUMENT.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT CHAPTER BY CHAPTER BECAUSE WE
HAVE WEEKS TO GET THEM BACK COMMENTS.
WHEN I PRINT IT BACK TO THEM, IF THERE WERE TYPOS, THOSE ARE
GOING BACK.
UP DON'T WANT A PREMATURE VERSION.
A VERSION THAT GOES TO THE PUBLIC, IS THAT OKAY?
05:02:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE CONSULTANT
HAS TO SAY.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CONSULTANT SAYS.
AND WE WILL GET TO SEE A SECOND VERSION OF WHEN IT GOES TO
THE PUBLIC.
I WANT TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE CONSULTANT HAPPENS TO SAY.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT TYPOS AND ALL THAT -- OBVIOUSLY A LAND
USE PERSON.
IT IS A PASSION OF MINE.
I WANT TO SEE EXACTLY --
05:02:29PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WILL YOU BE REVIEWING THAT AND PROVIDING
COMMENTS?
05:02:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.
THAT IS MY ONLY INTEREST TO BE ABLE TO READ THROUGH IT.
05:02:38PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
OKAY.
05:02:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, 77.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:02:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THIS WILL BE A LOT SHORTER, I THINK THAN WHAT I ANTICIPATED.
LONG STORY SHORT, COUNCIL.
A LOT OF THINGS DEVELOPING ON THIS ISSUE OBVIOUSLY.
THE COUNTY COMMISSION EXPRESSED INTEREST GIVEN THE MANY
ISSUES THAT HAPPENED IN EAST COUNTY, GIVEN THE MANY ISSUES
HAPPENED IN TOWN AND COUNTRY.
COUNTY COMMISSIONER PAT KEMP, I BELIEVE IT WAS, MOTIONED TO
HAVE PARTS OF NORTH TAMPA INCLUDING IN THEIR ASSESSMENT.
I HAD MET WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR VAUGHN WISE.
I SPOKEN WITH MR. BHIDE AND ANDREA AND OTHER FOLKS HAVE
INDEPENDENT INQUIRY, AND AGAIN THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY WILL
BE BRIEFED NEXT WEDNESDAY ON THURSDAY, HE WILL NEED MORE
TIME FOR THAT.
SO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 13
BEING BRIEFED.
THEY ARE INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY COUNTYWIDE STORMWATER
INVESTIGATIVE REVIEW POST MILTON AT THAT MEETING AND WHAT
THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO DO AND ALL
OPTIONS ON THE TABLE OF HAVING TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY
BEING A PART OF THAT.
NUMBER OF ISSUES, NUMBER ONE, IT WILL COST A LOT OF MONEY A
LOT OF MONEY TO DO IT AND WE NEED TO GO THROUGH IT NO MATTER
WHAT IN MY OPINION.
AND THE ACCOUNT APPEARS TO BE -- AGAIN, MEETING NEXT
WEDNESDAY, SUPPORTIVE OF INCLUDING THE CITY OF TAMPA IN
THAT.
RATIONALE -- COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS THAT ON THE 1st.
NUMBER ONE, THAT WATER DOES NOT STOP ON THE LINE.
A LOT OF AREAS LIKE FOREST HILLS WITH A LOT OF COUNTY AND
CITY.
UNIVERSITY AREA, DIFFERENT PARTS ALONG NORTH TAMPA AND I AM
SURE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
YOU HAVE PUMP THAT ARE ADMINISTERED THAT DEAL WITH CITY
AREA.
THE PUMP CHALLENGE THAT HAPPENS WITH FOWLER WAS WITH A
COUNTY PUMP.
A LOT OF INTERMINGLING ISSUE THERE IS.
SO THE COUNTY HAS AGREED TO ALONG WITH WHAT I WILL BE
PRESENTING TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL ON THEIR IDEAS TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY ARE OPEN ON
NOVEMBER 1.
SO THAT IS WHAT I AM SUGGESTING THAT WE DO.
WE HAVE TO ITEMS THAT DAY THAT I CAN MOVE FOR THAT TO MAKE
ROOM ON THE CALENDAR.
I CAN MOVE THEM ON JANUARY, FEBRUARY, WHATEVER IT MAY BE TO
MAKE ROOM ON THE CALENDAR.
OBVIOUS LEAVE PEOPLE IS ALWAYS IN MY DISTRICT -- HOMES HAVE
BEEN DESTROYED.
AND THE TOP THING THEY WANT TO KNOW, WHAT DID WE DO RIGHT?
WHAT DID WE DO POTENTIALLY NOT RIGHT?
AND FORWARD AND MAKING SURE IT WE HAVE THINGS RIGHT GOING
FORWARD IN THE FUTURE AND FOR ME.
THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
THIS IS A LONG PROCESS, BUT I WANT THE PROCESS TO GET
STARTED AND ASKED FOR NOVEMBER 1.
WE CAN HAVE IT SAT A TIME CERTAIN.
WHATEVER IT MAY BE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY TODAY, AGAIN THE FACT
THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING THEIR THING AND PRESENTING IT NEXT
WEDNESDAY, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO GO
FORWARD WITH ANY SUGGESTION.
THAT IS OUR ASK TO HAVE IT MOVED TO THE 21st.
05:06:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, NEXT THURSDAY WE HAVE
A NIGHT MEETING.
05:06:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
05:06:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AFTER THEIR WEDNESDAY MEETING.
PERHAPS GET CLARIFICATION AND TIME CERTAIN.
05:06:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
05:06:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY IN YOUR
DISTRICT WITH THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED.
I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.
FOREST HILLS.
UP MEAN --YOUR WORK IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED A
US A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IN A LOT OF PANE.
YES, MA'AM.
05:06:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
UNDER NEW BUSINESS, I AM GOING TO BE TALKING
OF THE SWAT ANALYSIS THAT I AM ASKING FOR FROM THE CITY.
AND I'M GOING TO BE ASKING THAT COMES UP US TO ON DECEMBER
5, WHICH IS JUST AFTER THAT.
DO YOU NOT SEE THAT SOMEHOW WORKING ON OR --
05:06:57PM >> WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING DONE BY CITY STAFF, CORRECT?
05:07:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
05:07:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT SOMETHING FROM OUTSIDE STAFF.
NOTHING AGAINST CITY STAFF, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH
DISCUSSIONS HAVING PUBLICLY, I WANT TAMPA OUTSIDE CITY
STAFF.
OBVIOUSLY AVENUE GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH CITY STAFF, GIVEN
THIS LOSS, I INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE CONSULTANT.
YOURS WILL BE INTERNAL.
TOTALLY SUPPORT IT BUT I NEED SOMETHING OUTSIDE GIVEN THE
DEVASTATION.
05:07:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
KNOWING THAT EXTERNAL REPORT IS USE SOME OF
OUR INTERNAL --
05:07:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
05:07:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DOES THAT CONCLUDES.
05:07:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I MAKE THE MOTION.
MIGHT AS WELL.
I AM REQUESTING STAFF FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROVIDE --
NOW -- CAN THIS BE -- CAN WE DO IT -- AGAIN, WE WAIVED THE
RULES FOR THIS BECAUSE IT WAS MAXED OUT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TIME IS OF THE ASH SENSE.
I CAN DO IT UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND HAVE IT AT A TIME
CERTAIN OR UNDER CEREMONIAL.
WE HAVE A COMMENDATION THAT WILL FAKE FIVE MINUTES.
WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS.
05:08:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, COUNCILMAN VIERA, AND CORRECT ME
IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THAT IT IS REALLY
GOING TO BE WHEN THEY COME ON THE 21st.
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE COUNTY STAFF APPEAR AND PRIMARILY
INFORMATIONAL.
05:08:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
05:08:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BUT WILL NOT BE A LONG DISCUSSION,
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS WITH CITY COUNCIL?
05:08:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DON'T THINK SO.
05:08:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INPUT.
05:08:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY SHOW UP EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER.
05:08:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WITH A TIME.
05:08:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BEFORE THAT, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO MOVE
--
05:08:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
YOU HAVE MY WORD OF HONOR.
IF YOU LOOK AT NOVEMBER 21, THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE ON
MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
AND -- YEP, MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY AND OAK LAWN.
I WAS GOING TO MOVE THOSE WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR --
05:09:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION, SIR?
05:09:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ASKING THAT STAFF FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND
MY SELF PRESENT IN THE NOVEMBER 21 MEETING WITH A REVIEW OF
THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AND I
REQUEST THAT BE HEARD AT A TIME CERTAIN BUT KEPT TO TEN
MINUTES.
05:09:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
05:09:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
MR. SHELBY.
05:09:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOVEMBER 21.
WOULD YOU PREFER THAT TO BE THE FIRST PRESENTATION UNDER
PRESENTATIONS AT 9 A.M.?
05:10:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE CAN WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD.
I WILL HAVE TO CHECK WITH BRANDON ON THAT.
05:10:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
I WILL HAND THE GAVEL OVER TO THE CHAIR PRO TEM IF I BELIEVE
MAKE SOME NEW BUSINESS.
05:10:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DON'T MAKE ME USE IT.
CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
05:10:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YOU ARE SO GRACIOUS.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS TO MAKE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING A COMMENDATION TO
JACOB BUCKMAN, ALSO KNOWN AS BOOKIE BUCKMAN AS TEN YEARS OF
SERVICE AS CODE ENFORCEMENT MAGISTRATE.
THIS WILL BE PRESENTED OFFSITE AT A FUTURE DATE TO BE
DETERMINED ARE.
05:10:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
SECOND -- -- A SECOND -- EXCUSE ME, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AYE.
OPPOSED NAY.
AYES HAVE IT.
05:10:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION
OFFSITE AT THE WEST TAMPA AWARDS TO THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE.
SANDY SANCHEZ, WHO IS WEST TAMPA'S WOMAN OF THE YEAR.
AND ALSO A GOOD FRIEND OF MANY HERE.
LEE ALVAREZ, WEST TAMPA MAN OF THE YEAR.
ANOTHER GOOD FRIEND AND GREAT COMMUNITY ASSET.
AND BOB GARCIA, WHO WILL BE RECEIVING THE GEORGE GUIDO
MEMORIAL RECIPIENT.
I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED FOR A LONG TIME.
ALL THREE ARE WONDERFUL AND WELL DESERVING.
05:11:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
05:11:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CITY COUNCIL RENOVATIONS.
I MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE WHILE AGO OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
THEY WANTED TO SPEND AND MOVING THE CHAMBERS.
EVERYBODY HAD UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER TO TALK TO ADRI
COLINA INVOLVING THIS PRODUCT.
DUE TO OTHER PRESSING MATTERS WE ARE DEALING WITH IN THE
CITY, ESPECIALLY THE PAST TWO HURRICANES, I AM SUGGESTING
TABLE IT UNTIL FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR.
I WILL SET A DATE TO BRING IT BACK.
NOTHING HAPPENING.
IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU HAVEN'T MET WITHER HAD.
A LOT OF MONEY AND BIG CHANGES.
THEY WANT TO MOVE THE CHAMBERS DOWNSTAIRS.
05:12:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I ALREADY MADE MY COMMENTS.
05:12:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL BRING THIS UP IN FEBRUARY.
NO MOTION.
JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.
05:12:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BACK.
05:12:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, ANYTHING ELSE?
05:12:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, A FEW.
FIRST OFF, LET ME MOVE ON NOVEMBER 21, I ASKED STAFF TO
REPORT WITH A PLAN OF ACTION FOR KEEPING LOCAL CEMETERIES
CLEAN, WELL THE FOWLER VISION PLAN.
AND I APOLOGIZE, I GOT TO LOOK FOR THE DATE.
HOW ABOUT 23rd -- JANUARY 23rd.
05:12:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN HAVE AS MANY AS WE WANT.
05:12:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HE WILL DO THE MEMORIAL AND LOOK FOR SOMETHING
ELSE.
05:12:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONE ABOVE IT IS YOURS.
POLO OCCASION OF THE FIRE SUPPLY FACILITY.
05:13:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO I WILL MOVE THAT.
BUT LET ME TALK TO CHIEF TRIPP.
SOME, YEAH, DOWNPAYMENT ON THAT ONE.
BUT -- BUT WITH THIS ONE WITH MEMORIAL PARK TIM CEMETERY,
LET ME DO IT FOR -- DARN IT.
6.
05:13:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
05:13:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
Y'ALL HAD GOTTEN A MEMO FROM THIS.
MANY OF Y'ALL -- ALL OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE LAKE
HARRISON BOONSTOPPLE KILLED YBOR CITY ON OCTOBER 29, IF I
RECALL THE DATE, OF 2023.
I COMPLIED WITH THE APPLICABLE ORDINANCE WITH REGARDS TO
DISCLOSING HIS NAME, HIS BACKGROUND.
WE HAVE STATEMENT, LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM TOM PEPIN, STATE
SENATOR, FORMER STATE SENATE PRESIDENT TOM LEE, NUMEROUS
DISABILITY ACTIVISTS, CLAY, GUTMAN, ETC., TO RENAME THE ALL
ABILITIES AFTER THE LATE HARRISON BOONSTOPPLE.
STRONG SUPPORT FROM HIS FAMILY.
I CAME INTO CONTACT, I GUESS IF YOU WILL, WITH THE FAMILY.
THE LATE HARRISON WAS A STUDENT AT PEPIN ACADEMY AND I SPOKE
AT HIS GRADUATION WELL BEFORE HIS PASSING.
THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF IT.
HE WAS JUST -- YOU SAW THE LETTER AN AMAZING YOUNG MAN ON
FOUGHT FOR EVERY INCH OF THE PLAYING FIELD IN LIFE AND PEPIN
ACADEMY GRADUATE.
IF I MAY COME BACK MARCH 27, 2025.
05:14:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU, SIR.
05:14:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
QUICKLY, IF I MAY, TWO QUICK THINGS.
MR. BHIDE TALKED OF A MOTION I DID ON THE PUMP GENERATORS.
AND I CAN'T FIND IT ON STAFF, MAYBE I DIDN'T -- YEAH
MAYBE I DIDN'T DO IT PROPERLY.
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT -- SO LET ME REMAKE -- LET ME MAKE THE MOTION.
FINALIZE IT.
GOD ONLY KNOWS.
SO I HAD -- I HAD WANTED TO DO A MOTION.
MAYOR CASTOR HAS TALKED ABOUT FUNDING BACK-UP GENERATORS.
I THINK THE NUMBER THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS $4 MILLION
FOR THIS.
SO I WANT A MOTION TO HAVE CITY STAFF COME FORWARD WITH A
PLAN OF ACTION ON BACK-UP PUMP GENERATORS INCLUDING FUNDING
AND OTHER -- AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON MAKE IT ON SOUTH
TAMPA I AM TALKING OF NORTH TAMPA, SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
SO MY MOTION IS FOR BACK-UP PUMP GENERATORS AS WELL AS
SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS FOR THE CHALLENGES IN -- IN NORTH
TAMPA.
AND IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE ON -- ON -- LET'S DO
FEBRUARY 6, PLEASE.
05:16:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT IS FULL NOW.
05:16:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS?
05:16:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TO WE HAVE A SECOND.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:16:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
WASN'T THIS PART -- IT WASN'T PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE
SWOT ANALYSIS?
05:16:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WAS IT?
WHEN IS THAT COMING BACK?
05:16:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE 5th.
NOT PART OF MY MOTION.
05:16:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
05:16:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PART OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT I DID NOT SPECIFY
IT IN THE MOTION.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL COME BACK WITH THE DETAILS OF THE
MONEY.
THE SWOT IS SUPPOSED TO BE QUICK --
05:16:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHEN IS THAT SWAT REPORT, COUNCILWOMAN?
05:16:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE 5th OF DECEMBER.
05:16:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GUESS WHAT, IF WE DEAL WITH IT THEN, I WILL
WITHDRAW IT.
05:16:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS FAR AS LIKE FAILURES AND
OPPORTUNITIES.
05:17:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU HAUL MY WORD.
05:17:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO MENTION NOT COMING TO US ON
COUNCIL, BUT COMING TO US ON E-MAIL FORM.
NOT PART OF COUNCIL.
05:17:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
05:17:11PM >> I THINK A SPECIFIC ISSUE ON THE GENERATORS.
MOST OF THE PLACES IN SOUTH TAMPA HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS BUT A
SPECIFIC ISSUE ON THE GENERATORS.
PAUSE THAT IS A SEPARATE BUDGET ITEM.
AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IS AN ISSUE.
IT IS WORTH HAVING THAT SEPARATELY ON THE AGENDA.
MY MOTION I WAS GOING TO MAKE TO HAVE THE STAFF GIVE US --
HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS OVERALL.
BECAUSE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS DO THAT.
THIS IS A SPECIFIC THING.
05:17:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FOR BACK-UP AGAIN REAL ISSUES.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
05:17:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WHAT DATE, FEBRUARY --
05:17:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FEBRUARY 5 OR 6th.
05:18:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY ONLY SUGGESTION.
THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
THE GENERATOR ARE A CITYWIDE THING AND SHOULD BE SEPARATELY
IN CASE THEY -- DIFFERENTLY.
05:18:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
MY MOTION IS TWO TIERED.
NORTH TAMPA FLOODING ISSUES.
BACK-UP GENERATORS CITY WIDE WILL BE $4 MILLION.
THEY, MY INTENT.
05:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED.
ANYTHING ELSE.
05:18:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
A REPORT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
I MENTIONED AND I COULD COULDN'T GENT A SECOND TO HAVE FUNDS
FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HELP PEOPLE SHORT TERM, BECAUSE
FEMA, TO ME, IS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY.
IF YOU WANT A SUIT, THE SUIT, TIE, BELT.
YOU GOT TO GET THE REST.
AND I STILL SUPPORT THAT.
AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT.
BUT AS A COMPROMISE, I WANT THE STAFF REPORT TO US IN A
WRITTEN REPORT ON WHAT FEMA MONIES CAN -- IF THERE ARE FEMA
MONEYS THAT THE CITY CAN GET AS A PASS THROUGH TO THE CITY
TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THESE GAPS THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING
GUYS, I AM TALKING TO PEOPLE EVERY DAY HAVING TO SELL THEIR
HOMES TO VULTURES AND WHO ARE GOING HUNGRY.
IT'S -- IT'S TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE.
SO LOOK AT THAT AS A WRITTEN REPORT.
THE NEXT AVAILABLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE HAVE.
05:19:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO A NOVEMBER 21.
05:19:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FIRST, IT IS NOT ENOUGH TIME BECAUSE THEY WILL
HAVE TO GET THE REPORT IN TOMORROW.
05:19:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DECEMBER 5.
05:19:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
05:19:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
05:19:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
05:19:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THAT.
LIKE YOU ALL, I AM DEALING WITH HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE A DAY.
AND -- AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE FRUSTRATED ABOUT FEMA.
THE -- KATHY CASTOR'S OFFICE AS FINAL RESORT AGREED TO LOOK
AT IT AND TRY TO HIM THEM.
THE VERY DIFFICULT ONES REJECTED OVER AND OVER.
HER OFFICE HAS BEEN HELPING.
YOU MAY KNOW HER AND TALK ABOUT THEM ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO FEMA, THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO HELP.
05:20:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I ACTUALLY WAS AT A FEMA LOCATION IN EAST
COUNTY WITH LAURA LEE.
SO I KNOW SHE HAS BEEN FAMILIAR AND HER OFFICE IS WORKING
WITH IT WELL.
YOU CAN HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
05:20:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY.
IF IT IS NORTH TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA, CONGRESSWOMAN LEE.
OTHER WILL BE CONGRESSWOMAN CASTOR.
05:20:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONGRESSWOMAN LEE WAS ENGAGED AND HAD HER
STAFF TO FAMILIARIZE HER WITH THE PROCESS AN CONSTITUENCY.
05:20:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE.
05:21:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT.
05:21:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY
NEW BUSINESS?
05:21:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DO NOT HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS.
05:21:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HOW ABOUT YOU, SIR.
05:21:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A STATEMENT.
I WANT TO REIT MATE MY SUPPORT OF CITY STAFF AND
SPECIFICALLY SOLID WASTE FOR THE -- FOR THE JOB THAT THEY
ARE DOING POST STORMS.
THE CHALLENGE IS TREMENDOUS.
THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING AROUND THE CITY.
THEY ARE WORKING TIRELESSLY.
OUR STAFF -- MANY OF THEM INCLUDING OUR LEADERS HAD DAMAGE
AS WELL, BUT THEY SHOWED UP TO WORK TO HELP -- HELP BRING
THE CITY BACK TO LIFE.
AND I THINK -- WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OTHER AREAS OF THE
STATE THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THE HURRICANES, WE ARE -- WE ARE
REALLY HUMMING ALONG.
WE ARE COMPETING FOR -- FOR HELP FROM EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT
THIS CITY IS REALLY RECOVERING AT A RAPID PACE.
AN, AGAIN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT SOME OF THE
ADJOINING JURISDICTIONS THAT WERE IMPACTED AND YOU WILL FIND
-- YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB.
A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE AND CITY STAFF HAS DONE AGREE JOB.
APPLAUD THEM AND EXCEEDED ANY EXPECTATIONS I WOULD HAVE HAD
OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CITY AFTER TWO DEVASTATING STORMS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEHALF OF MY HOME, MY FAMILY, MY
FRIENDS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ENTIRE CITY, I THINK WE
OWE YOU A DEBT OF GRATITUDE.
THANK YOU.
05:22:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HEAR, HEAR.
05:22:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
ABSOLUTELY.
EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY.
SO I WANT TO AMEND MY MOTION I ORIGINALLY MADE OCTOBER 17,
2024.
THAT MOTION THAT STAFF BE REQUESTED TO PROVIDE HURRICANE
HELENE AND MILTON'S SWAT ANALYSES BY NOVEMBER 8.
THEY ASKED FOR MORE TIME.
SO I AM ACTUALLY ASKING FOR TWO SEPARATE THINGS NOW.
BECAUSE CHIEF BENNETT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOT WASH, WHICH
IS ACTUALLY AN AFTER ACTION REPORT.
I AM GOING TO ASK FOR EACH OF THOSE.
CHIEF TRIPP TO SHARE THEIR AFTER ACTION REPORT FROM HELENE
AND MILTON TO CITY COUNCIL TO BE DELIVER BY E-MAIL BY
DECEMBER 2, 2024.
05:23:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
YES, MA'AM.
05:23:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HURRICANE HELENE AND MILTON SWAT ANALYSIS NO
MORE THAN TWO PAGES FROM EACH DEPARTMENT.
NO MORE THAN ONE PAGE REPORT TO LIVED BY E-MAIL BY DECEMBER
5, 2024.
05:23:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY VIERA.
05:23:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO STAFF.
ENOUGH TIME?
05:23:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, TO GO THROUGH --
05:23:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
YES, MA'AM.
05:23:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ALREADY TALKED TO MR. BAIRD ABOUT THIS.
AND THIS IS FINE.
A PROJECT THAT MISS COPESKY AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON TO
LOOK AT LARGER PROJECTS AND SEE HOW -- WE SEE THE BEGINNING,
BUT WE DON'T LOOK AT THE END AND SEE HOW WELL WE HAVE DONE
IF WE ARE ON BUDGET AND ALL THIS STUFF.
IT IS A LITTLE LONG AND I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN BUT DON'T
WORRY.
I MOTION THAT STAFF CREATE A FIVE-MINUTE IN-PERSON REPORT TO
PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE SOON-TO-BE COMPLETED OF THE LOWER
PENINSULA WATERSHED PROJECT.
THIS OVERVIEW, THE PROJECT APPROVAL TIMELINE FROM 2019-2024
TO THE COST COMPONENTS FOR DESIGN SERVICES, INCLUDING
AMENDMENTS, GMP AGREEMENT AND ANY CHANGE ORDERS WITH
KIMMINS.
ADDITIONAL WORK EFFORT THAT CONSUME THE $400,000 CITY
CONTROLLED AND $3 MILLION KIMMIN CONTROLLED CONTINGENCY.
FOUR, DETAILS OF NON KIMMINS COST.
AND DELIVERABLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
LINEAR FEET OF CULVERT, POND DRAINAGE, ROAD RESURFACING,
PARK AMENITIES.
AND KEY IMPLEMENTATIONS FROM VENDOR.
SEVEN, FINANCIAL COMPARISON TO BUDGET FOR PROJECT NUMBER
1000570.
EIGHT, OPTIONS FOR USE OF UNUSED CAPITAL FUND, IF NIL.
NINE, SOFT AND HARD BENEFITS THE CITY CAN EXPECT FROM THIS
INVESTMENT.
TEN, ANY OTHER PERTINENT DETAILS THAT STAFF BELIEVES TO BE
HELPFUL.
I REQUEST THE DATE NOR PRESENTATION DECEMBER 19, 2024.
05:25:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
05:25:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANYTHING ELSE?
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE ANY OPPOSED?
THIS IS REGARDING WHICH PROJECT?
05:25:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LOWER PENINSULA WATER SHED PLAN PROJECT THAT
KIMMINS.
SO, YES, MISS COPESKY AND I HAVE ASKED FOR THESE FOR A
COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS, AND IT IS KIND OF -- AND WE HAVE
BEEN WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THEY ARE
HAPPY TO DO IT AND HAVE ALL THE INFO.
05:26:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW?
05:26:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE FOUR.
I THINK IT IS THE SAME AS OTHER PEOPLE NOW.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE SHORT-TERM THING.
AND -- WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF DATES OF NOW.
ALL THE DATES THAT I LOOKED AT ARE FILLED.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO IT ON THE 19th.
MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT BACK AS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF
FINDING SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS THAT WILL IMMEDIATELY PREVENT
RAINFALL FLOODING IN THE AREAS WHERE IT OCCURRED DURING THE
RECENT STORMS.
EXAMPLE WILL BE TO DREDGE THE CANALS AND STORMWATER POND ON
AZEELE AND TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE FOUNDATION IN FOUNTAIN
PARK.
THESE IDEAS AND OTHERS TAILORED TO EACH NEIGHBORHOOD CAN
PREVENT FLOODING OVER THE THREE TO FOUR YEARS THAT LONGER
TERM SOLUTIONS CAN BE BUILT.
05:26:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
05:26:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT ON THE 19th.
05:26:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALL RIGHT, DECEMBER 19.
05:26:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS FOR --
05:26:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I JUST WANTED HIM TO REPEAT IT.
05:27:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOTION ASK STAFF TO REPORT BACK ON DECEMBER
19 AS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF FINDING SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS
THAT WOULD IMMEDIATELY PREVENT RAINFALL FLOODING IN THE
AREAS WHERE IT OCCURRED DURING THE RECENT STORMS.
THERE WAS FLOODING FROM STORM SURGE.
THIS IS JUST THE RAINFALL PART.
EXAMPLES WOULD BE TO DREDGE THE CANALS AND STORM PONDS NORTH
OF AZEELE AND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AND REMOVE THE CONCRETE
FOUNDATION IN FOUNTAIN PARK.
THESE IDEAS AND OTHERS TAILORED TO EACH NEIGHBORHOOD OF
WHICH LONGER SOLUTIONS WILL BE BUILT.
05:27:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAD SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THAT
NEIGHBOR DOWN IN PALMA CEIA WITH THE DITCHES.
05:27:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THERE WERE JUST TWO EXAMPLES THERE -- TWO
EXAMPLES AND DOESN'T STICK US TO ANY OF THOSE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE VIK AND I HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND
SOUNDS LIKE HE HAS A BUNCH OF IDEAS ALREADY.
BIGGEST QUESTION -- WE THOUGHT A STORM WAS COMING THIS WEEK.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO -- NOT THE CITY BUT WHAT ARE YOU
GOING TO DO TO STILL TO COME STOP THE FLOODING IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
WE NEED TO ANSWER THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
05:28:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION.
A SECOND?
05:28:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
05:28:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THANK YOU, SIR, THAT WAS GREAT.
05:28:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THREE MORE.
THE OTHER ONE I SENT OUT WAS ABOUT THE TREE CANOPY STUDY.
WE TALKED TO SOME STAFF.
WE TALKED TO CONSULTANTS.
SOUNDS LIKE THE TREE CANOPY UPDATE JUST TO DO A SMALL UPDATE
OF THE TREES AND THE CURRENT STATUS IS $10,000 TO $20,000.
IF THE CITY CAN'T FIND IT, I WILL PAY IT MYSELF.
THE ISSUE IS THAT, NUMBER ONE, BY JUST LOOKING AROUND WE
LOST 10% TO 20% OF OUR TREE CANOPY IN SOUTH TAMPA IN THE
LAST MONTH.
THE PRO-TREE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND SO WE CAN
RESET.
WE CAN'T WEIGHT TWO MORE YEARS BEFORE THE NEXT BIG PLAN
COMES UP.
WE NEED A BIG UPDATE TO SEE WHERE WE STAND.
NUMBER TWO, WE -- WE -- THE -- WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT REMEMBER
THE LAST TIME THEY PRESENTED.
THEY SAID, WELL, BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED SO MUCH
DEVELOPMENT, WE LOST 4% OF OUR TREE CANOPY.
WELL, IF THE NEXT REPORT IN TWO YEARS COMES BACK AND SAYS WE
LOST 20%, THEN EVERYBODY IS GOING TO SAY THAT WAS BECAUSE OF
DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW IS FIND OUT HOW MUCH DO WE LOSE JUST
BECAUSE OF THE STORMS AND THAT WILL SET A NEW PRECEDENT.

WE CAN CHANGE THE DATES OR WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT.
I MOTION TO HAVE STAFF COMPLETE AND UPDATE THE TREE CANOPY
STUDY SUMMARY AND PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH A WRITTEN REPORT FOR
THE MAY 1st, 2025, SESSION.
5:29:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND.
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:29:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OH, MY GOSH, THE TREE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
HATE ME.
I THINK THE INTENT IS GOOD, BUT WE HAVE SO MUCH -- SO MANY
PROBLEMS WITH STORM RECOVERY RIGHT NOW.
AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE LET UP.
5:29:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OUTSOURCED TO USF.
5:30:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITHOUT ANYTHING FROM STAFF AT ALL?
5:30:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
USF SAID THE PICTURES EXIST AND ALL THEY HAD
TO DO IS ANALYZE IT.
SOME ALGORITHM FOR ANALYZING IT.
SURE SOME STAFF INPUT, BUT IT'S JUST ENGAGING THE CONTRACTOR
TO MOVE.
5:30:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'RE RIGHT.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT WE STILL WON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE
BECAUSE SOME OF THE TREES WERE SO BADLY DAMAGED, THEY ARE
GOING TO AND WON'T KNOW THAT FOR A WHILE.
I'M SURE USF IS CAPABLE.
I WITHDRAW MY OBJECTION.

5:30:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I THINK IT'S GREAT.
AS YOU SAY, THE BLAME WILL FALL ON US AND IT CAN'T BE WITH
OVERDEVELOPMENT OR APPROVING OR NOT APPROVING PROJECTS.
THIS STORM TOOK OUT SO MANY TREES.
MOTHER NATURE'S WORK, NOT WHAT CITY COUNCIL DID.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE AN UPDATED ANALYSIS.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE UPDATE.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:30:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, SIR.
5:30:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TWO MORE.
5:30:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH.
THE NEXT ONE IS ABOUT SEAWALLS.
I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS BEFORE.
MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE HEARD.
SUDDENLY A CONSTITUENT REACHED OUT TO ME AND THEN HIS WHOLE
CONDO REACHED OUT.
LIKE FOUR OR FIVE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY PEOPLE WENT OUT
AND LOOKED AT IT.
THERE IS A BARGE THAT COMES UP TO THE SEAWALL IN DAVIS
ISLANDS AND A BIG TRUCK COMES UP FULL OF CONSTRUCTION
EQUIPMENT.
THEY OFF-LOAD -- THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL DOCK.
IT IS A REGULAR SEAWALL IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND

THEY ARE UNLOADING EQUIPMENT ONTO THE BARGE AND THEN THE
BARGE GOES OVER TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
WE HAVE U.S. ARMY CORPS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
AND NOBODY CAN FIND THAT ANYBODY IS PERMITTED TO DO IT.
THE PROBLEM IS THE GUY WHO ORIGINALLY REACHED OUT TO ME HAS
A SERIOUS, SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUE AND THEY ARE MAKING LOUD
NOISES EARLY IN THE MORNING, LATE AT NIGHT BUT ALSO IT
DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE PERMITTED AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND
OF DAMAGE THESE THINGS MIGHT DO.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
RETURN WHATEVER DATE ON DECEMBER 19 TO DISCUSS THE
POSSIBILITY OF CREATING AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE
COMMERCIAL USE OF SEAWALLS OR DOCKS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS
EXCEPT IN LOCATION SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL
USE, ANY POSSIBLE ORDINANCE WOULD ALSO REGULATE THE TYPE OF
USAGE, HOURS OF OPERATION, SOUND REQUIREMENTS AND ANY NEED
FOR A PERMIT.
5:32:18PM >> SECOND.
5:32:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S VERY UNUSUAL.
GOES FROM DAVIS ISLANDS TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
5:32:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH.
PIRATE TAXI ALSO GOES THERE AND NOBODY OPPOSED THE PIRATE
TAXI.
5:32:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT IT'S NOT NOISY.
5:32:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME PERMITTING PROCESS.

IT'S WEIRD -- IT'S NOT A DOCK.
5:32:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
5:32:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING ON HARBOUR
ISLAND.
THEY ARE UNLOADING HUGE EQUIPMENT FROM A TRUCK ONTO A BARGE
AT DAVIS ISLAND AND THEN THEY TAKE IT OVER TO HARBOUR ISLAND
AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
5:32:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WHO WAS THE SECOND?
SECOND FROM HURTAK.
5:32:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE LAST ONE, SAVE THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL
ONE LAST, JACKSON HOUSE.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT IN 2012, ERNEST HOOPER ASKED ME TO MEET
WITH WILLIE ROBINSON.
I MET WITH HIM.
HE HAD A LETTER FROM THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION SAYING THEY
WERE GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE JACKSON HOUSE A WEEK LATER AND
FINE $60,000 PLUS THE COST OF TEARING DOWN THE JACKSON
HOUSE.
I CALLED LINDA SAUL-SENA WHO CAME INTO CITY COUNCIL NEXT
DAY.
I THINK TWO OR THREE OF YOU WERE ON CITY COUNCIL AT THE
TIME.
THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME OVERTURNED THE DECISION AND

SAVED THE JACKSON HOUSE.
GROUP OF US THEN TRIED TO SAVE IT AND THE ADMINISTRATION
FOUGHT US.
SINCE THEN, A FOUNDATION HAS CONTROLLED IT AND THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS ON THE FOUNDATION.
YOU ALL REMEMBER THE CHAIR OF THE FOUNDATION WAS HERE A YEAR
AGO AND I ASKED HER PUBLICLY, I ASKED HER PRIVATELY FIRST
AND THEN PUBLICLY, CAN YOU COME BACK IN TWO MONTHS AND
PRESENT AN UPDATE ON WHAT YOUR RENOVATION PLAN IS.
SHE SAID YES.
SHE THOUGHT THAT WAS SUFFICIENT TIME.
EVERY MONTH THEREAFTER, WHILE ALIS WAS STILL HERE, HE BEGGED
HER TO COME RESCHEDULE.
EVERY MONTH THEY CANCELED.
EVERY WEEK AND ESPECIALLY AROUND STORMS SOMEBODY POST A
PICTURE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE AND SAY WHY ISN'T CITY COUNCIL
DOING SOMETHING TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE?
USF IS READY TO HELP.
TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER IS READY TO HELP.
ALL WE NEED IS THE JACKSON HOUSE AND DEALS ARE DONE -- TIRED
OF GETTING BLAMED FOR IT.
WE NEED THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION TO STEP UP.
YOU SAW THAT SOMEBODY SENT ME AN E-MAIL TODAY.
I TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME.
WE'VE HAD 13 YEARS OR SO OF WAITING FOR THEM TO DO

SOMETHING.
THEY HAVE DONE VERY LITTLE.
AND ALL OF IT WAS YEARS AGO.
WE THROUGH THE CRA BOARD OFFERED A MILLION DOLLARS.
JEFF VINIK GAVE THEM A MILLION DOLLARS AND WE'RE STILL
WAITING FOR THEM TO EVEN TELL US WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS START THE PROCESS OF AT LEAST
PUTTING OUT FINES OR LEVYING SOMETHING SO WE CAN TAKE
CONTROL OF IT.
IF WE DON'T TAKE CONTROL, IT WILL FALL DOWN.
THE CARDIES WOULD PROBABLY BE HAPPY WITH THAT, RIGHT?
THE FOUNDATION IS NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE CARDIES, WHY
SHOULD WE LET THIS THING FALL DOWN WHEN THE CARDIES HAVE
GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY TO ALLOW THIS SPACE TO HAVE THEM TO
OPERATE THIS?
EVERYBODY IS READY TO DO SOMETHING BUT THE FOUNDATION WON'T
WORK.
IF WE SET UP A DATE TO HAVE THE STAFF COME UPDATE US ON THE
POSSIBILITY OF CONDEMNATION AND THE JACKSON HOUSE
FOUNDATION, I'LL SEND AN E-MAIL TO THE LADY AFTER THIS, IF
THEY WANT TO COME HERE AND PRESENT THEIR RENOVATION PLAN,
NOT PRESENT EXCUSES, PRESENT THEIR RENOVATION PLAN, THEN WE
CAN ACCEPT THAT AND CANCEL THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT BACK ON
DECEMBER 19 AS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY LEVYING FINES

AND/OR CONDEMNING THE JACKSON HOUSE PROPERTY WITH THE
PURPOSE OF TAKING IT OVER BEFORE A STORM DESTROYS IT.
ONCE THE CITY HAS POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY, THE CITY WOULD
THEN WORK WITH USF, THE HISTORY CENTER AND JACKSON HOUSE
FOUNDATION TO RENOVATE AND REBUILD THE STRUCTURE.
CITY COUNCIL AND THE CRA BOARD HAVE BEEN ASKING THE JACKSON
HOUSE FOUNDATION -- I'LL LEAVE THE REST OF IT OUT.
5:36:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
I WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
5:36:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SAME HERE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
ON THIS.
I THINK YOUR THOUGHTS ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS -- SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE DONE.
IF NOT THIS, THEN SOMETHING, MAYBE THIS WILL PROVOKE ACTION
TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AGAIN, THANK YOU.
YOU'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION THROUGHOUT
THE CITY, UNION STATION AND JACKSON HOUSE ARE TWO OF YOUR
PROJECTS.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD TODAY.
5:36:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YEAH, THANK YOU AS WELL.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHEN I GOT ELECTED IN 2015, WHICH YOU
SUPPORTED ME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY
NARROW RACE, IT WAS A SHORT GAP BETWEEN ELECTION NIGHT AND

GETTING SWORN IN.
I HAD ORIENTATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THE FIRST MEETING I HAD WAS WITH THE PREVIOUS MAYOR AND THE
FIRST THING OUT OF MY MOUTH, WHAT ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE?
WELL, IF YOUR HOUSE OR MY HOUSE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
DEMOLISHED A LONG TIME AGO.
NOTHING HAS HAPPENED SINCE.
IT'S GOTTEN WORSE.
I'VE BEEN DOCUMENTING THIS MYSELF, GOING, TAKING PICTURES.
BEFORE I GOT ELECTED, SINCE GETTING ELECTED, AND I WAS ABLE
TO GET A TOUR ONE DAY.
I HAVE THE PICTURES, WHICH THEY ARE FASCINATING PHOTOS
BECAUSE EACH ROOM IS A DIFFERENT COLOR.
THE ELECTRICAL PANEL IS USING FUSES THAT ARE FROM THE
1970s BUT INSIDE IT IS WOODEN TRUSSES THAT ARE KEEPING IT
HELD UP.
WE'RE IN A TROPICAL CLIMATE.
THERE ARE BROKEN WINDOWS.
IT RAINS.
THE HUMIDITY IS DAMAGING ALL THAT WOOD.
BUT IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT, BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE.
I HAD A CONVERSATION SUNDAY AFTERNOON WITH A GENTLEMAN WHO
LOVES TAMPA HISTORY, TALKING ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE, UNION
STATION, SEGREGATION, WHO STAYED THERE.
IT'S ONE OF TAMPA'S MOST SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURES.

I'M TIRED OF WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.
MR. VINIK GAVE A MILLION DOLLARS.
USF DID THEIR MAPPING.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.
MENTIONED THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS
DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
NOW IT'S JUST I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT BOLD STEP TO
EXPLORE, AS YOU SAID, SAVING AND PROTECTING THIS HOUSE
BECAUSE IT'S INVALUABLE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE HISTORY OF THIS
COMMUNITY, WE CAN'T LOSE IT.
5:38:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE LOST THE MAAS BROTHERS BUILDING
DEMOLITION THROUGH NEGLECT.
5:38:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WATCHED THAT DEMOLITION.
THAT WAS AN ENTIRE CITY BLOCK FROM THE 1920s.
THE JACKSON HOUSE I THINK CAN BE SAVED AND PUT TO GOOD USE.
AGAIN, IT'S TOO IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
5:38:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THERE IS A PART OF ME
THAT GREATLY APPRECIATES WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ON THIS.
THERE ARE TWO THINGS.
I SPOKE TO CAROLYN COLLINS, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
FOUNDATION.
SHE SAYS NO ONE HAS REACHED OUT TO HER REGARDING THIS WITH

ANY CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME SO THAT SHE COULD HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT HERSELF BEFORE US.
AND I THINK JUST KIND OF LIKE THE MacDILL SITUATION, WE
SHOULD GIVE IT ONE MORE SHOT WHERE SHE STANDS BEFORE US
PUBLICLY TO SAY WHAT IT IS THAT SHE NEEDS TO SAY BEFORE WE
MAKE A DECISION LIKE THIS, OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
THE OTHER PART IS THAT I FEEL THAT WE WOULD BE OPENING A CAN
OF WORMS IF WE WERE TO TAKE OVER THE JACKSON HOUSE.
AND WE ARE -- WE WILL BE IN UNDER OUR HEADS AND WOULD HAVE
COST US A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY UNLESS ALL OF THOSE
FUNDS THAT WERE GIVEN TO THEM, THE FOUNDATION, COMES OVER
WITH US.
I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST -- THAT WOULD BE A TINY FRACTION OF
WHAT IT WOULD REALLY COST TO BRING IT BACK TOGETHER.
I JUST HAPPENED TO WATCH -- IT WASN'T A DOCUMENTARY, BUT
THERE WAS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN STRUCTURE THAT THEY LITERALLY
TOOK IT APART AND MOVED IT TO ANOTHER CITY AND PUT IT BACK
TOGETHER.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE JACKSON HOUSE AND I SAID THIS A YEAR AGO,
STANDING UP BY A WING AND A PRAYER.
THE FIRST PERSON AFTER THE STORM, THE SECOND ONE, MILTON,
ABBYE FEELEY SAID TO ME, THE JACKSON HOUSE IS STILL
STANDING.
IT IS STANDING BY A WING AND A PRAYER.
IT REALLY IS.

I JUST FEEL AS THOUGH IF IT COMES INTO OUR POSSESSION, IT'S
JUST GOING TO BE A HUGE PROBLEM WHEN IT FALLS APART AND THEN
EVERYONE WILL BE EXPECTING US TO FIX IT AND IT'S GOING TO
COST MORE MONEY THAN WE BARGAIN FOR.
I JUST REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
I THINK THE JACKSON HOUSE, WHICH IS A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK
ORGANIZATION, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SOLVE THEIR OWN
PROBLEMS AND WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO MOVE WITH
EXPEDIENCY TO DO SO, SO THAT WE WILL NOT BE PLACED IN THIS
SITUATION.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE THE SAVIOR RIGHT NOW UNTIL
WE AT LEAST HEAR FROM THEM, GIVE THEM THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
COME BEFORE US AT LEAST ONE MORE TIME.
THAT'S MY OPINION ON IT.
I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT IT, ALTHOUGH I REALLY FEEL LIKE YOU
DO CARE ABOUT IT.
YOU'VE GIVEN ME A LOT OF INDICATIONS ABOUT THAT, EVEN
INCLUDING THE ARTWORK IN THE HALLWAY, THE CORRIDOR OF OUR
OFFICE SPACE HERE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
I APPRECIATE IT.
NOT THAT I'M FIGHTING YOU ON IT, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD
ALLOW CAROLYN COLLINS TO COME BEFORE US.
IF SHE DOESN'T SHOW UP OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE AND -- IF
ANYTHING, THEY NEED TO ASK US FOR THE HELP THAT THEY TRULY
NEED IF SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.

CARDIES HAVE DONE THEIR PART.
SEEMS LIKE ALL THE OTHER THINGS ARE IN PLACE.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT OVER AND IT COLLAPSES ON OUR WATCH
AND HAVE US PUT IT BACK TOGETHER AT AN EXPENSE WE WEREN'T
ANTICIPATING.
5:42:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND HURTAK.
5:42:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AS YOU SAID, I LOVE THE JACKSON HOUSE SO
MUCH.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE PAINTER DEAN MITCHELL,
INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN PAINTER.
I BOUGHT A PAINTING FROM HIM OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THOSE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE INSIDE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THOSE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS.
AND PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THEM.
WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO SAVE IT 12 YEARS AGO, A PHOTOGRAPHER
WENT IN AND THERE WERE HAND PRINTS BY WILLIE AND HIS FAMILY
ON THE WALL.
SHE TOOK THE PHOTOS AND MADE AN ABSTRACT PHOTO OF IT THAT'S
ON THE WALL IN CITY COUNCIL.
BUT IN MY HOUSE, I PERSONALLY BOUGHT A PAINTING BY DEAN
MITCHELL OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
AND I HAD LENNY FOSTER, WHO IS A CIVIL RIGHTS PHOTOGRAPHER
COME OVER AND TAKE PHOTOS OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
I LOVE THE BUILDING AND I WANT TO SAVE IT.
IN TERMS OF CONTACT, ALIS LEFT HOW MANY, THREE MONTHS AGO,

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
HE CONTACTED THEM AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH.
HE RESCHEDULED WITH THEM EIGHT TIMES JUST IN THE LAST YEAR.
I AGREE WE SHOULD GIVE THEM MORE TIME BUT I WANT TO SCHEDULE
THIS AND SEE IF THAT LIGHTS A FIRE FOR THEM TO COME MEET
WITH US BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD AN URGENCY TO MEET WITH US
AT ALL.
THEY NEED TO NOT JUST TELL US EXCUSES BUT WHAT THEIR PLAN
IS.
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE MONEY REALLY IS GOING TO GO TO THE
HISTORY CENTER.
THE HISTORY CENTER IS GOING TO LEAD THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT.
I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO TAKE IT OVER EITHER, BUT WHAT THE
JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION NEEDS TO DO IS THEY NEED TO TURN
OVER CONTROL OF THE HISTORY CENTER NOW SO THE HISTORY CENTER
CAN OPERATE THIS.
5:43:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WHITE PREDOMINANTLY
ORGANIZATION TAKING OVER ANOTHER BLACK SPACE JUST LIKE THE
-- THE, UM, FORTHCOMING HISTORY CENTER IN -- IN THE SCRUB.
GIVE THEM THIS OPPORTUNITY.
WHAT IF IT FALLS APART ON OUR WATCH?
WHAT IF IT FALLS APART AND WE CAN'T PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.
5:44:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE KEEPER OF BLACK HISTORY IN TAMPA RIGHT
NOW AS IT IS IS THE HISTORY CENTER.
AND ARGUABLY THE TOP BLACK HISTORIAN IN TAMPA IS AT THE

HISTORY CENTER.
HE AND HIS COLLEAGUES WOULD -- AND THE TEAM FROM USF.
BUT THEY ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT HAVING THE FAMILY
INVOLVED.
5:44:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND VIERA.
5:44:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY DON'T WE OFFER -- WHAT DATE DID YOU WANT
THIS?
5:44:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DECEMBER 19.
5:44:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY DON'T YOU INVITE THEM TO COME DECEMBER 19
AS WELL.
5:44:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS FAIR.
5:44:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS NOT SAYING WE'RE TAKING IT OVER.
WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE CITY AND INFORMATION FROM
THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
5:45:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S INVITE THEM ALL.
5:45:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE A DECISION OR WE CAN
HAVE A DISCUSSION AS A GROUP.
5:45:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL ADD TO MY MOTION AND INVITE THE JACKSON
HOUSE FOUNDATION TO SPEAK.
5:45:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY JUST
LIKE WE DID WITH --
5:45:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I COMPLETELY AGREE.
I HAVE THE EXACT SAME SENTIMENT AS YOU AS WE CANNOT TAKE AS
A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE BODY WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKING OVER WHAT

IS PREDOMINANTLY AN AFRICAN AMERICAN EXPERIENCE.
IT'S RELEVANT TO THE CITY BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S
RELEVANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I JUST -- I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
5:45:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
[INAUDIBLE] -- AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I WILL SUPPORT THAT.
MAYBE SHE'S LISTENING TODAY BECAUSE SHE IS AWARE OF THIS.
5:46:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HOW ABOUT IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER MOTION
WHICH CAN I READ AGAIN, INVITE THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION
TO PRESENT THEIR RENOVATION PLAN.
5:46:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I CAN ACCEPT THAT.
5:46:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:46:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO I HAD VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
FOR ME TO SUPPORT PART OF IT, I WOULD NEED -- AGAIN,
WHATEVER THE VOTES ARE THERE, BUT TO HAVE THE INVITATION BE
SEPARATE FROM THIS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLICATED ISSUES WITH THIS, WITH
NEIGHBORS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS.
I THINK AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
HAVE SAID FOR US A POLITICAL BODY, A MUNICIPALITY TO START
TO MAKE THREATS AGAINST A PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN
ORGANIZATION ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT HAS TO MEET A HIGHER
LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT I DON'T THINK IS THERE YET.
HOWEVER, NUMBER ONE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY

WORTHWHILE, GETS PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.
I KNOW THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON WANTS TO DO IN THAT.
NUMBER TWO, INVITING THEM TO COME ON DECEMBER 19, BY THE
WAY, SIX DAYS FROM CHRISTMAS.
MAYBE DO IT BEFORE, MAYBE AFTERWARDS, BUT HAVE THEM.
I WROTE DOWN ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE.
AS AN ATTORNEY, IF A JUDGE SAYS, LISTEN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE
HERE ON THIS DATE, SHOW CAUSE AS WHY SHOULDN'T DISMISS YOUR
LAWSUIT.
KIND OF LIKE THAT.
NOT THAT WE'RE ORDERING HIM TO BE HERE BUT WE WOULD LIKE FOR
THEM TO BE HERE AT A CERTAIN TIME.
FOR ME, I CAN'T SUPPORT AT THIS TIME SOMETHING LIKE THAT
BEFORE WE EXHAUST OTHER REMEDIES.
I DO SUPPORT HAVING THEM COME WITH THE DIRECTION OF, LISTEN,
TELL US WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WE WANT TO PRESERVE THIS.
HELP ME HELP YOU.
THAT'S MY FEELING.
5:47:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:47:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY DON'T WE SAY TENTATIVELY THAT THIS IS THE
DATE.
IF THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR THEM, WE CAN MOVE THE ENTIRE THING
TO A DATE THAT DOES WORK FOR THEM.
IT'S NOT SET IN STONE THAT IT IS THE 19th.

IF THEY HAVE TO MOVE IT, THEY HAVE TO MOVE IT.
EITHER WAY, WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
5:48:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:48:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOR THE RECORD, I DID NOT KNOW DRUMGO WAS
REACHING OUT TO THEM SEVERAL TIMES.
I KNOW THEY WERE SCHEDULED, BUT EVEN ONE OF THOSE TIMES SHE
SAID SHE WASN'T AWARE OF.
5:48:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE THE FLOOR.
5:48:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I'M SORRY.
PRO TEM.
5:48:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SHAKING MY HEAD.
HE -- WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY.
KEEP DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING
DIFFERENT RESULTS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT, YES, ALIS DID REACH OUT MULTIPLE,
MULTIPLE TIMES.
IN THIS CHAMBER, THE HEAD OF THE JACKSON FOUNDATION WAS
BEFORE US AND WAS ASKED TO COME BACK AND GIVE THESE REPORTS.
WE'VE ALREADY GONE DOWN THIS PROCESS AND NOTHING HAS
HAPPENED.
IT'S DETERIORATED THAT MUCH FURTHER.
WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE CITY, NOT A FINANCIAL
INTEREST, AND ALSO A CULTURAL INTEREST ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US
AND PASSED AND LIVE HERE TODAY AND WILL LIVE HERE TOMORROW

TO PURSUE THIS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
I THINK HAVING SOME TYPE OF THRESHOLD, BECAUSE CLEARLY, THIS
HASN'T GONE ON JUST A YEAR.
HOW MANY YEARS HAS THIS GONE ON.
THIS FOOTBALL IS LIKE CHARLIE BROWN.
THE FOOTBALL GETS SET UP AND LUCY PULLS THE FOOTBALL OUT
FROM UNDER HIM EVERY SINGLE TIME.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A MOMENT, AND I THINK THAT MOMENT PASSED A
LONG TIME AGO.
WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS TO PULL THE TRIGGER, THIS TIME
HAS COME AND GONE.
THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.
WE INVESTED MONEY.
OTHER COMPANIES HAVE INVESTED MONEY.
COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL WITH A PLAN OR THEY NEED TO
RELINQUISH CONTROL.
IF THEY WON'T DO THAT, I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
OBJECTIVE IS ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE.
EITHER THE CARROT OR THE STICK AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
5:50:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
5:50:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AGAIN, IF THE MOTION IS GEARED TOWARDS COME ON
THIS DATE AND IF WE DON'T GET SOMETHING SATISFACTORY, THEN
WE'LL START EXPLORING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT'S SOMETHING
I CAN SUPPORT.
BUT PUTTING THAT ON THE MENU THIS TIME, LIKE I SAID, WHEN I

SAW THE MEMO, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ALIS.
I'LL REACH OUT TO HIM.
THINK THE MEMO CAME OUT ON TUESDAY.
5:50:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO MANY BRIEFINGS AND DISCUSSIONS, MAYBE
THAT'S PART OF MY FRUSTRATION.
THIS HAS GONE ON FOREVER.
IF HE HAD HAIR, HE WOULD BE PULLING IT OUT.
5:51:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I CAN REACH OUT TO HIM AS WELL.
THAT'S WHAT I PREFER.
I DIDN'T HAVE TIME AFTER TUESDAY BECAUSE I WAS MOURNING THE
ELECTION, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
5:51:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALL IT'S SAYING, COME BACK AND TALK TO US
ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF IT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THAT DAY TO DEMOLISH IT.
BY THE WAY, HAD LINDA SAUL-SENA NOT INTERVENED IN 2012 IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN AND WILLIE'S FAMILY WOULD BE OUT A
HUNDRED GRAND OR MORE.
MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT BACK ON DECEMBER 19 AS TO THE
POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY LEVYING FINES AND/OR CONDEMNING THE
JACKSON HOUSE PROPERTY WITH THE PURPOSE OF TAKING IT OVER
BEFORE A STORM DESTROYS IT.
ONCE THE CITY HAS POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY, THE CITY WOULD
THEN WORK WITH USF, THE HISTORY CENTER, AND THE JACKSON
HOUSE FOUNDATION TO RENOVATE AND REBUILD THE STRUCTURE.
AND WE WILL INVITE THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION TO PRESENT

THEIR RENOVATION PLAN AT THE SAME TIME.
5:51:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:52:06PM >> NAY.
5:52:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I'M OKAY WITH IT FOR NOW.
5:52:10PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO AND MIRANDA
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
5:52:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, IF YOU CAN HELP US
TO GET THEM TO COME FOR RENOVATION PLAN, YOU'LL BE MY HERO.
5:52:34PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
5:52:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY SON HAS A PLAY AT 6:30.
5:52:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
5:52:47PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
5:52:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A SHORT -- LIMIT TO
FIVE MINUTES OR TEN MINUTES CEREMONIAL.
IF YOU WANT TO DO A TIME CERTAIN, FIRST THING AFTER LUNCH.
5:53:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
1:30 TIME CERTAIN.
5:53:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
5:53:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO
RELAY TO YOU.

BECAUSE OF THE STORMS, WE HAD SEVERAL NIGHT MEETINGS.
WE HAD TWO NIGHT MEETINGS CANCELED.
AND NOW PER THE CODE THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO LET'S
SAY NEXT WEEK'S MEETING AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES MOVED TO THE
ONE -- 14th IS NEXT WEEK AND THEN THE 21st BECAUSE OF
THE HOLIDAY.
BASICALLY WHERE WE STAND NOW IS IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN NEXT
WEEK'S AGENDA COMES OUT ON FRIDAY, YOU WILL SEE FOR NEXT
THURSDAY NIGHT 15 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE STACKED IS THE ITEMS THAT WERE
CONTINUED FROM OCTOBER WILL BE FIRST ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE
THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY A MONTH BEHIND.
I'M GOING TO ASK -- WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT CAN BE CONTINUED.
COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONTEMPLATE GIVING THE PEOPLE UP FRONT
TO ASK FOR CONTINUANCES WITHOUT PENALTY.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO BE PREPARED.
I BELIEVE IT MIGHT EVEN BE ACTUALLY MORE THAN 15 ON THE
AGENDA BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE SOME THAT MIGHT BE CONTINUED OR
ASKING FOR CONTINUANCES ALREADY.
5:54:33PM >>THE CLERK:
19 AND ONE NOT GOING TO BE HEARD, MISNOTICE,
AND THREE --
5:54:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'RE AT 15.
5:54:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST REQUEST THAT WE HAVE DINNER.
DINNER AND SOME SNACKS.
AND NOT PIZZA.

I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION TODAY TO BE PREPARED FOR NEXT
THURSDAY, BOTH WITH REGARD TO FOOD, ALSO WITH REGARD TO
BEING WELL RESTED AND PREPARED FOR THAT AND ALSO A GOOD
PERIOD OF TIME UP FRONT FOR HOUSE KEEPING TO GIVE PEOPLE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DETERMINE HOW YOU WILL HANDLE THE EVENING.
5:55:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONLY THING I ASK IS AT THAT MEETING WE
ALSO HAVE A CLEAR, SAYS NINE FOR DECEMBER 12, BUT TO HAVE AN
UPDATE OF WHERE THE NINE STAND, SO IF PEOPLE DO WANT TO
MOVE, BECAUSE DECEMBER IS JUST INSANE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD REQUEST IS MAYBE HAVING
DECEMBER AND JANUARY'S DATES.
5:55:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GOOD NIGHT.
THANK YOU.
5:56:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
5:56:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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