TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2024, 5:01 P.M.

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5:09:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CALL TO ORDER, IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL
CALL, PLEASE.
5:09:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
5:09:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
5:09:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
5:09:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
5:09:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
5:09:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
5:09:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
5:09:32PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:09:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THERE IS REALLY NOTHING TO GO OVER WITH THE AGENDA.
I'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO KICK IT OFF?
5:09:52PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
TONIGHT WE ARE HERE FOR THE OPENING.
WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TO YOU A REPORT ON WHAT WE CALL THE
CAPER.
THAT IS THE CONSOLIDATED ACTION PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION
REPORT RELATED TO HOUSING.
THIS WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
WHAT YOU RECEIVED WAS THE DRAFT OF THIS REPORT BECAUSE THE
FINAL INPUT TO THIS REPORT IS THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO YOU GET THE DRAFT.
WE'LL GO OVER WHAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT.
IT WILL BE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND THEN THIS WILL OPEN THE
PUBLIC RECORD PERIOD ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REPORT, WHICH IS
IN OUR STRATEGIES AND REQUIRES US TO DO THIS.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MICHELLE BOONE, OUR HOUSING
COORDINATOR.
SHELL GIVE THE REPORT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
5:10:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
5:10:43PM >>MICHELLE BOONE:
MICHELLE BOONE, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT.
LIKE ABBYE SAID, WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT INFORMATION ON OUR

CAPER, OUR CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION
REPORT.
THIS IS OUR ANNUAL REPORT FOR OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WE
ARE ALLOCATED, CDBG, HOME, ESG, HOPWA AND HOME.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
OUR EXPENDITURES ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE IN THE LAST
YEAR.
THIS IS OUR TIMELINE OF OUR CAPER.
OUR FISCAL YEAR RUNS FROM OCTOBER 1 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30.
SO WE FINALIZE ALL OF OUR PAYMENTS AND DOCUMENTS AND
REPORTS.
WE PROVIDE A NARRATIVE AND A DRAFT, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE A
COPY AVAILABLE TO YOU AS WELL AS A COPY IS AVAILABLE ON THE
HCD'S WEBSITE.
AND IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ANYONE WHO
WISHES TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT.
TONIGHT, WE ARE SCHEDULED THE ONE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS
REQUIRED BY HUD, TO COLLECT ANY INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL OR
THE PUBLIC IN THE AUDIENCE IF THEY WOULD WISH TO SPEAK ON
THE ITEM.
WE WISH TO -- OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL RUN FROM TODAY
THROUGH DECEMBER THE 6th.
THEN WE WILL PROVIDE HUD WITH OUR FINAL COMMENTS, INCLUDING
TODAY'S COMMENTS.
THESE ARE OUR RESOURCES AND INVESTMENTS.

LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE HUD FEDERAL DOLLARS, CDBG.
SOME DOLLARS REMAINING FROM THE COVID YEARS, HOME, HOPWA,
WHICH INCLUDES A FOUR-COUNTY AREA.
PASCO, PINELLAS, HERNANDO, AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, NOT JUST
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OR CITY OF TAMPA.
AND HOPWA-C, STRICTLY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DOLLARS, NOT
STRICTLY TAMPA.
OUR EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT DOLLARS.
SPENT A TOTAL OF $13,847,858 ACROSS THOSE PROGRAMS IN THE
LAST YEAR.
SOME OF OUR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, THESE NUMBERS ARE
AGGREGATED ACROSS MOST OF OUR PROGRAMS.
WE PROVIDE SHELTER BED FUNDING.
PROVIDE HOMELESS PREVENTION.
PROVIDE RAPID REHOUSING DOLLARS, EMERGENCY SHELTER DOLLARS
SUCH AS TAMPA HOPE AND SALVATION ARMY.
THEN OUR HOME VOUCHERS, TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR
CLIENTS WHO NEED RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
OUR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS, AGAIN, IS
FOR THE FOUR-COUNTY AREA.
IT PROVIDES SHORT-TERM MORTGAGE AND RENTAL UTILITY
ASSISTANCE.
TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
SOME FACILITY-BASED HOUSING PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY
AND THE FOUR-COUNTY AREA AS WELL AS SUPPORT SERVICES.

WE SERVED APPROXIMATELY 1334 CLIENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
OUR HOUSING ASSISTANCE, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL OF OUR COMBINED
RESOURCES, DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO HOME BUYERS OR
DARE OR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
WE DID HELP CHDO HABITAT BUILD SEVEN NEW UNITS THIS YEAR.
SOLD TO ELIGIBLE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
REHABILITATED 17 ARE IN THE PROGRESS OF REBUILDING 17 HOUSES
USING OUR CDBG FUNDS.
WE PROVIDED FUNDING FOR NEW UNITS OF HUNDRED UNITS OF RENTAL
HOUSING INCLUDING THE BEL-MAR PROPERTY.
WE REHABILITATED 18 UNITS ON A PROPERTY FOR MULTIFAMILY
RENTAL AS WELL.
WE SERVE 349 RESIDENTS IN HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND OUR CDBG
PUBLIC SERVICE DOLLARS AND PROVIDED HOUSING COUNSELING
SERVICES TO 478 CLIENTS.
TONIGHT, LIKE WE SAID, IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WILL HAVE A DEADLINE TO SUBMIT COMMENTS FOR THE CAPER.
DUE DECEMBER 6.
COMMENTS CAN BE SUBMITTED DIRECTLY TO ME VIA E-MAIL OR CAN
BE SUBMITTED IN PERSON, IN WRITING, ACCEPT ANY COMMENTS IN
ANY WAY THAT THEY ARE PROVIDED TO US.
THAT'S THE INFORMATION I HAVE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR
ANYONE ELSE.
5:14:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.

5:14:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, GREAT WORK ON
ALL THAT YOU DO.
IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT REALLY ISN'T, AND THE
WAY THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM USE IT IS REALLY, REALLY AMAZING.
THE MANY DIFFERENT PLATES YOU KEEP SPENDING BECAUSE A LOT OF
THOSE DOLLARS ARE SO SPECIFIC AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO A VERY
SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
YOUR TEAM JUST DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
5:15:22PM >>MICHELLE BOONE:
THANK YOU.
5:15:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
ITEM NUMBER 1?
I SEE NO ONE AND I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED VIRTUALLY.
SO WE'LL JUST -- NO ACTION IS NEEDED, RIGHT?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- WAIT, DO WE KEEP IT OPEN,
MS. JOHNS?
YEAH, WITHDRAW THAT.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 2.
5:15:51PM >> McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR
PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION OF RICHMAN HILLSBOROUGH

APARTMENTS GREEN REUSE AREA THAT IS SINGLE PARCEL
APPROXIMATELY 13.42 ACRES IN SIZE, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 2302
EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER, RICHMAN HILLSBOROUGH APARTMENTS,
SUBMITTED TO THE TAMPA REQUESTING DESIGNATION OF THE
PROPERTY AS BROWNFIELD AREA AND THAT APPLICATION CONTINUES
TO BE SUPPORTED BY SUCCESSOR IN INTEREST, RICHMAN EAST TAMPA
MIXED INCOME LLC.
THE PROPERTY OWNER PLANS TO REHABILITATE AND REDEVELOP THE
SITE INTO 356 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE TO
HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 120% OR LESS OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS A FINANCIAL PARTNER IN THE PROJECT AND
CONTRIBUTED $12 MILLION IN FURTHERANCE OF THE EFFORT TO MAKE
MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE.
DETAILS OF THE DESIGNATION HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN A DOCUMENT
ENTITLED STAFF REPORT ON RICHMAN HILLSBOROUGH APARTMENTS
GREEN REUSE AREA BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC
REVIEW AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND ON THE PUBLIC OnBase SIDE
ON OUR WEBSITE.
CITY STAFF DETERMINED THAT ALL STATUTORY AND PUBLIC NOTICE
REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET AND RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL
APPROVE THIS DESIGNATION.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCIL WILL
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PASS A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING RICHMAN
HILLSBOROUGH APARTMENT GREENERY AREA A BROWNFIELD AREA AS

SPECIFIED IN THE FLORIDA BROWNFIELD REDEVELOPMENT ACT.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE ON A PANELIST LINE AS IS APPLICANT'S
REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT HERE IN CHAMBERS IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
5:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
NO.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
NUMBER 2?
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:17:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THAT WAS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WANTS TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON --
5:18:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
[INAUDIBLE]
5:18:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:18:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I GIVE IT UP.
5:18:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:18:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.

NOW YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
ALREADY DONE.
ALL RIGHT.
AS LONG AS WE'RE LEGALLY FINE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 3.
5:18:24PM >>McLANE EVANS:
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION OF PROPERTIES GENERALLY
LOCATED AT 2606 EAST 10th AVENUE.
CITY OF TAMPA IS REQUESTING DESIGNATION OF THESE PROPERTIES
AS BROWNFIELD AREA TO ASSIST IN THE ASSESSMENT AND
REMEDIATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT MAY EXIST ON THE
PROPERTY.
DETAILS OF THE DESIGNATION OUTLINED IN A DOCUMENT ENTITLED
STAFF REPORT ON EAST YBOR DEVELOPMENT AREA PROPOSED
BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC
REVIEW AT THE CITY'S CLERK WEBSITE AND OnBase.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS
SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 5, 2024 AT 10:30 A.M. OR SOON
THEREAFTER AS POSSIBLE, COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
PASS A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING EAST YBOR DEVELOPMENT AREA AS
A BROWNFIELD AREA.
THIS EVENING NO ACTION IS REQUIRED BUT FOR TAKING PUBLIC
COMMENT.

5:19:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
YES.
COME ON UP, SIR.
ITEM NUMBER 3.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:19:22PM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS MATTHEW RADECK.
I HAVE A PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE EAST YBOR IN ITEM NUMBER 3
HERE.
I ASSUME NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN UNTIL AFTER THE SECOND
HEARING, IS THAT CORRECT?
5:19:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
5:19:36PM >> SORRY I WASN'T COMPLETELY PREPARED FOR TONIGHT.
BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO PRINT OUT THE INFORMATION ON THIS
THING, THIS IS WHAT I WAS GETTING.
I WAS GETTING INCOMPLETE, LIKE GETTING HALF A PAGE AND
EXTREMELY SMALL PRINT.
5:19:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S GET IT UP ON THE OVERHEAD.
5:19:51PM >> I WAS HAVING TO USE MY MAGNIFYING GLASS AND MY READING
GLASSES TO TRY TO READ THIS THING.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF SOMEHOW I COULD POSSIBLY GET A
PRINTED COPY OF THIS REPORT.
IS THAT POSSIBLE, McLANE?
ALSO, I LOOKED UP THE HISTORY OF THE HOUSE, AND I COULD NOT

FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF ANY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.
FROM WHAT I COULD GATHER, I GOT A FEW TIDBITS OF INFORMATION
ABOUT SAID POSSIBLE OLD OIL PUMP HOUSE.
AND THEN ALSO TESTING WAS NOT INTENDED TO PROVIDE KNOWLEDGE
OF THE TARGET ANALYSIS OR SERVE AS A SITE ASSESSMENT.
AND LOW LEVELS OF ALL ITEMS TESTED FOR SINGLE ROUND OF SITE
ANALYSIS IS NOT ADEQUATE AND MAY NOT PROVIDE SUFFICIENT
DATA.
I DO BELIEVE THEY MAY HAVE DONE A LIMITED PHASE TWO
ANALYSIS, BUT I COULDN'T GET ALL THE DETAILS FROM THIS HALF
A PAGE AND SMALL PRINT THAT I HAVE HERE.
ALL I'M REQUESTING IS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ATTEND THE SECOND
MEETING AND HOPEFULLY I CAN GET A BETTER PRINTED COPY AND
UNDERSTAND AND I'LL BE MORE PREPARED FOR NEXT MEETING.
5:21:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE
THE GENTLEMAN?
5:21:16PM >>McLANE EVANS:
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE REPORT ITSELF FROM
THE STAFF REPORT?
5:21:21PM >> I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE -- IT IS THE ONE YOU E-MAILED ME.
AND I DIDN'T GET AROUND TO OPENING IT UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE
TO DO SOMETHING, CONTACT YOU BACK.
5:21:30PM >>McLANE EVANS:
I BELIEVE HE'S SPEAKING ABOUT A PUBLIC
RECORDS REQUEST THAT I RESPONDED TO AT HIS REQUEST, WHICH IS
THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF A STUDY THAT THE
PROPERTY OWNER DID ON THEIR SITE.

MY CONCERN IS TO PRINT SOMETHING OF THAT VOLUME FOR ONE
INDIVIDUAL OF THE PUBLIC, WE MAY HAVE TO DO THAT FOR ALL
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO YOUR BEST TO REVIEW IT IN A
DIGITAL FORMAT.
5:22:01PM >> OKAY.
I'LL TRY ONE MORE TIME AND THEN I'LL CONTACT YOU BACK WITH
E-MAIL IF I CAN'T GET IT DONE.
IS THAT OKAY?
5:22:09PM >>McLANE EVANS:
CERTAINLY.
5:22:10PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
5:22:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 3?
NO.
ANYTHING ELSE -- DO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR LEAVE IT
OPEN?
5:22:26PM >>McLANE EVANS:
YOU CAN CLOSE TODAY.
THE SECOND ONE IS IT'S ONLY STAND-ALONE HEARING.
5:22:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION
TO CLOSE.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:22:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THAT GOING TO BE ADVERTISED?

COULD BE ANNOUNCED.
5:22:42PM >>THE CLERK:
SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HEARD ON DECEMBER
5, 2024, AT 10:30 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:22:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 4.
5:22:54PM >>McLANE EVANS:
GOOD EVENING.
McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
ITEM NUMBER 4 IS A BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION OF A PROPERTY GENERALLY
LOCATED AT 810 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
CITY IS REQUESTING DESIGNATION OF THIS PROPERTY AS A
BROWNFIELD AREA TO ASSIST IN ITS ASSESSMENT OR REMEDIATION
OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT MAY EXIST ON THE PROPERTY.
DETAILS OF THE DESIGNATION HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN A DOCUMENT
ENTITLED STAFF REPORT CHANNELSIDE DRIVE PARK PROPOSED
BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC
REVIEW IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND IN OnBase.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS
SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 5, 2024, AT 10:30 A.M. OR SOON
THEREAFTER AS POSSIBLE, CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PASS A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING 810 CHANNELSIDE
DRIVE AS A BROWNFIELD AREA.
THIS IS A CITY-OWNED PROPERTY PLANNED TO BE MADE INTO A

PARK.
5:23:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.
5:24:00PM >>THE CLERK:
SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HEARD ON DECEMBER
5, 2024, AT 10:30 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL
CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 5.
5:24:21PM >> GOOD EVENING.
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THIS IS TA/CPA 24-08 LOCATED AT 3901 AND 3905 NORTH OLA
AVENUE AND 3904 NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE.
THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED SMALL-SCALE AMENDMENT.
IT IS APPROXIMATELY 0.51 ACRES.
AND THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RESIDENTIAL
20.
THIS IS A GENERAL LOCATION ON THE MAP OF THE SITE.
IT IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, THE

TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
IT IS OUTLINED HERE IN PINK.
AND YOU CAN SEE SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH
SCATTERED NONCONFORMING DUPLEXES THAT ARE MOSTLY LOCATED
ALONG NORTH TAMPA STREET.
ALONG DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, WHICH IS FURTHER
NORTH TO THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE WHICH IS
-- SORRY, NORTH TAMPA STREET, EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A
MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL USES.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE.
AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS BEHIND THE PHOTOGRAPHER.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE.
SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE LEFT.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON WEST VIRGINIA AVENUE.
THE SITE IS OUT OF FRAME BEHIND THE PHOTOGRAPHER.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON NORTH OLA AVENUE AT THE SITE ACROSS
THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE CORNER OF NORTH
OLA AVENUE AND WEST VIRGINIA.
AND THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE, VACANT LOT ON THE
LEFT AND ADJACENT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE RIGHT.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

OUTLINED HERE IN BLACK AND REPRESENTED WITH THE ORANGISH
COLOR WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION WHICH IS TO
THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
FURTHER NORTH ALONG MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD IS THE
CMU 35 DESIGNATION IN THE PINK COLOR AND CC-35 DESIGNATION
IN THE RED.
AND FURTHER SOUTHWEST HERE IN THE R/OS DESIGNATION IS CALVIN
TAYLOR PARK AND WOODLAWN CEMETERY.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED HERE REPRESENTED
WITH THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION.
THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE SITE WOULD ALLOW HIGHER
RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND GREATER COMMERCIAL INTENSITY.
UNDER THE CURRENT DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL 20, THE SITE
CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR FIVE DWELLING UNITS OR SLIGHTLY OVER
7,700 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES IF LOCATIONAL
CRITERIA IS MET.
UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION, THE SITE COULD BE
CONSIDERED FOR 10 DWELLING UNITS OR SLIGHTLY OVER 11,000
SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES IF LOCATIONAL CRITERIA IS
MET.
THIS WENT OUT FOR AGENCY REVIEW.
THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES OBJECT TO THE REQUEST, AND THEY ARE
IN CHAMBERS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
5:27:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

5:27:47PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE.
5:27:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M SORRY.
WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 9:00 JUST CASE AFTER CASE AFTER CASE.
SORRY.
5:28:01PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
IT'S ALL GOOD.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
TWO MAIN AREAS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
FIRST, THERE ARE SEVERAL POLICIES DEALING WITH OVERALL
COMPATIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN.
STAFF FOUND THAT THOUGH THERE ARE SOME VERY SCATTERED
DUPLEXES WITHIN THE AREA, MANY OF THESE ARE NONCONFORMING
AND PREDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ADDITIONALLY, THE TRANSITIONS IN DENSITY, THEY FOUND THAT
THE INTRODUCTION OF THE R-20 COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY R-10
WOULD NOT FURTHER LAND USE POLICIES 2.1.1, 9.6.1, 9.6.3,
9.6.4 AND NEIGHBORHOOD POLICY 1.3.10.
ADDITIONALLY, REQUEST ALSO FOUND INCONSISTENT WITH
NEIGHBORHOOD POLICY 1.1.2, WHICH SEEKS TO PROVIDE FOR
LOGICAL DENSITY TRANSITIONS IN ESTABLISHED SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT THE REQUEST FOR R-20 IN THIS
LOCATION WOULD NOT PROVIDE FOR THE LOGICAL TRANSITION IN
DENSITY.
WITH THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED MAP AMENDMENT BE FOUND

INCONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE
TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:29:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:29:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU PUT THE POSSIBLE CHANGE MAP UP AGAIN?
WHERE THE ORANGE GOES TO BROWN.
I'M CURIOUS WHY THEY SAY -- WHILE THE PLANNING COMMISSION
FOUND IT NOT CONSISTENT, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY SURROUNDING
WHEN LITERALLY A BLOCK AWAY YOU HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL 20,
WHICH IS THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL 20 IN THE AREA.
5:29:41PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
RIGHT.
5:29:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT.
5:29:44PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
THIS IS ALSO ON A CORRIDOR THAT IS CLOSER TO
A HIGHER DENSITY, AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE A LOGICAL
TRANSITION FROM THE CC-35 TO THE R-20 AND TO THE DETACHED
SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT PROVIDED THAT LOGICAL TRANSITION TO THAT.
AND WITHIN THE R-20 HERE, ARE WHERE SOME DUPLEXES ARE
EXISTING.
5:30:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
5:30:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM?

5:30:16PM >> YES.
5:30:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
COME ON UP, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:30:21PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS MATT SIENK.
ADDRESS IS 410 WEST PARK AVENUE.
I DO THINK MY SLIDES ARE LOADED SOMEWHERE ON HERE.
5:30:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEY'LL COME UP IN JUST A SECOND.
5:30:42PM >> IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR PACKETS.
MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR YOU IN CASE IT DOESN'T SHOW UP.
WE'RE GOOD.
WE'RE GOING TODAY.
VERY COOL.
MY NAME IS MATT SIENK.
YOU HAVE SEEN ME IN THE PAST IN THIS SAME ROOM.
I'M HERE TODAY LUCKILY TO PRESENT CPA 24-08.
THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO PROVIDE OBTAINABLE,
COMPATIBLE, MISSING MIDDLE OPTIONS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS, WHICH
IS SOMETHING I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS
ALREADY.
LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON IT, I'VE BEEN A TAMPA HEIGHTS
RESIDENT FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
I'M ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND MY OFFICE IS LITERALLY
BLOCKS AWAY FROM THIS PROJECT.

BECAUSE I SPEND SO MUCH TIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I'VE BECOME KIND OF AN EXPERT ON WHAT
NEIGHBORS ARE LOOKING FOR, WHAT THIS AREA IS TRYING TO
ACHIEVE LONG TERM.
AND I HAVE A PROVEN RECORD OF MAINTAINING AND PRESERVING
COHESIVE COMMUNITIES.
THERE IS A PHOTO RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE
HOUSES I BUILT.
YOU WOULD BE HARD-PRESSED TO PICK IT OUT BETWEEN THE TWO
1930s BUNGALOWS ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
BECAUSE MY COMMITMENT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS WE MAKE SURE
THINGS ARE CONSISTENT AND FEELS LIKE TAMPA HEIGHTS.
ADDITIONALLY, YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ME IN THE CAPACITY OF TAMPA
CIVIC HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION.
I'M ALSO ON THE CAC FOR THE TPO AND I'M THE LAND USE
COMMITTEE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
IN THOSE CAPACITIES, I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF MEETING
NEIGHBORS AND ALSO LOSING NEIGHBORS WHO ARE GETTING PRICED
OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY IS GREAT, WHICH IS WE'RE
GETTING MORE RENTAL UNITS, MORE HIGHER DENSITY APARTMENTS,
BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PATH FOR OWNERSHIP.
WE KNOW THAT OWNERSHIP IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR LONG-TERM
FAMILY WEALTH AND TRANSFERRING OF WEALTH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE
ANY GOOD OPTIONS FOR THAT GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

SO MY SOLUTION WITH THIS IS TO LOOK FOR MISSING MIDDLE
OPTIONS.
YOU ARE SUPER AWARE THAT TAMPA HEIGHTS IS SPECIAL.
IT'S REALLY ECLECTIC.
IT HAS FAMILIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO STAY THERE.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION AND COME TO YOU GUYS
WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE MEANINGFUL THAN COMPLAINING,
RIGHT?
YOU GUYS HEAR ABOUT HOUSING PROBLEMS, BUT HOW CAN ME AS A
NEIGHBOR HELP THAT SOLUTION?
SO THE MISSING MIDDLE IS A GREAT SOLUTION.
IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, R-20 IS NECESSARY BECAUSE R-10
WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO GET THE DENSITY TO DO DUPLEXES.
RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT'S SET IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO BUILD
DUPLEXES ON R-10.
JUST ISN'T POSSIBLE.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE LITTLE HUNG UP ON ARE DESIGN
DETAILS DURING THE REZONING PROCESS.
I INTENTIONALLY AM NOT DOING THE REZONING AND THE COMP PLAN
AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE OF THE REQUEST OF THIS COUNCIL
BEFORE, WHICH IS LIKE DO THEM SEPARATELY.
IT DOES GET CONFUSING.
I'VE ALSO HAD GREAT SUPPORT FROM IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS.
THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY TAMPA HEIGHTS IS TAMPA
HEIGHTS.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LEE'S GROCERY, THE BEST PLACE FOR BEER,
WINGS, SALAD IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, RIGHT?
WE HAVE OUR CIVIC ASSOCIATION IN A REFURBISHED CHURCH.
WE HAVE DUPLEXES, QUADPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, 8-PLEXES, LIKE, YOU
NAME IT, TAMPA HEIGHTS HAS IT ALL OVER THE PLACE.
IT'S ALSO DRIVEN THE DIVERSITY AND THE FUN WALK YOU CAN HAVE
IN TAMPA HEIGHTS BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT.
HERE IS A SLIDE THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT, WHICH IS FAMILIES
ARE STRUGGLING.
THE COST OF HOUSING IS GOING UP, BUT OUR INCOMES ARE NOT.
SO A KEY PILLAR OF THE AMERICAN DREAM IS OWNING A HOME BUT
INCREASINGLY IT'S OUT OF REACH OF PEOPLE.
WHAT DO WE DO AND WHAT POLICIES CAN WE HAVE TO FIX THAT
PROBLEM?
I FEEL LIKE THE MISSING MIDDLE IS A GREAT SOLUTION FOR THAT.
WHAT IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE IS SMALLER SCALE TOWNHOMES AND
MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
MISSING MIDDLE ALSO DOES A LOT OF THINGS FOR TAMPA BECAUSE
IT ADDRESSES THE HOUSING SHORTAGE THAT WE HEAR ABOUT IN
EVERY MEETING WE HAVE BUT ALSO REDUCES URBAN SPRAWL.
IT INCREASES DENSITY TO DRIVE OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
INITIATIVES, SO WE'RE GETTING THOSE CLOSER TO THE CITY.
IT'S ACTUALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF TAMPA

HEIGHTS.
RIGHT NOW, R-10 DOES NOT ALLOW FOR MISSING MIDDLE.
ON THE FIVE HISTORIC LOTS THAT WE HAVE, WE COULD ACTUALLY
BUILD FIVE HOMES.
BUT THE FUN THING ABOUT THAT IS WE COULD BUILD
4,000-SQUARE-FOOT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
THE BIG MANSION, RIGHT?
THE 900 TO $1.2 MILLION HOUSES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF WE GO TO R-20, WE CAN HAVE A SIMILAR, ACTUALLY SMALLER
FOOTPRINT AND GET TWO UNITS IN THE FORM OF A DUPLEX.
IF THIS REQUEST IS APPROVED, A REZONING OTHER PUBLIC
HEARINGS WILL BE REQUIRED BECAUSE I WANT TO COMPLY WITH THE
TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY AND GET THE DESIGN RIGHT FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING ABOUT THIS, AND IT WASN'T SHOWN
ON THE OTHER MAPS, IS TRANSITION IN DENSITY.
ON THE EAST SIDE OF FLORIDA AVENUE, THEY WERE GIVEN THE
PRIVILEGE TO TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL TO R-10, FROM R-20
TO R-10, RIGHT.
FOR SOME REASON THAT STOPPED ON THE WEST SIDE OF TAMPA
STREET AND FLORIDA.
WE DON'T KNOW WHY.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS ESSENTIALLY THERE IS NO
TRANSITION BECAUSE IT WASN'T GIVEN TO THIS AREA, AND IT'S

INCONSISTENT FOR THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THAT MAKES
SENSE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS SUPER IMPORTANT IS THAT IT
DOESN'T SHOW UP WELL ON THE MAP, BUT TAMPA STREET IS AN
ARTERIAL ROAD.
PEOPLE ARE GOING 60 MILES AN HOUR.
IT FEELS LIKE A HIGHWAY SOMETIMES, RIGHT?
BUT ON THE MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A SMALL COLLECTOR
STREET, BUT IT'S NOT.
SO IN LOGICAL SENSE, WE WOULD BE GOING FROM COMMERCIAL TO
R-20 TO R-10 AND STEPPING DOWN DENSITY JUST ON THIS SIDE OF
IT, LIKE IT'S GIVEN ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
THE THING TO TAKE NOTICE OF, THESE LITTLE STARS.
THESE LITTLE STARS ARE LEGAL NONCONFORMING DUPLEXES AND
TRIPLEXES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY ARE ALREADY THERE.
WE ALREADY HAVE THAT.
SO KIND OF THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THAT, YOU LOOK ON THE
RIGHT-HAND PHOTO, THIS IS THE AREA THAT I THINK LOGICALLY
WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE R-20 DENSITY VERSUS THE R-10.
COMPATIBILITY ON PAPER VERSUS COMPATIBILITY IN REAL LIFE,
LIKE, THIS IS A HUGE THING FOR US.
TAMPA HEIGHTS IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL COMMUNITY, LIKE
WE'RE DIVERSE, SUPER ECLECTIC, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY IS
OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, FAR BEFORE THEY HAD PLANNING,

ZONING, ANY OF THOSE THINGS EXISTED.
SO THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP KIND OF IGNORES THESE
LEGAL NONCONFORMINGS THAT GIVE OUR COMMUNITY THE STYLE AND
UNIQUENESS THAT I PERSONALLY LOVE.
SO EXAMPLES OF LEGAL NONCONFORMING JUST IN A COUPLE OF
BLOCKS I FOUND 8.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THERE'S OVER 20.
ONE OF THOSE IS A HOSTEL WITH 12 ROOMS.
TO SAY IN THIS AREA IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE OR NOT CONSISTENT, I
DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY TRUE.
IT'S JUST NOT CONSISTENT ON PAPER.
SO HERE IS AN EXAMPLE -- HERE ARE EXAMPLES A COUPLE OF
BLOCKS.
THIS IS A FOURPLEX, A TRIPLEX, ANOTHER FOURPLEX, TRIPLEX,
8-PLEX UP THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
DUPLEX, ANOTHER QUAD.
THESE ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
NEEDS AND RELIED ON FOREVER.
HERE IS GRAHAM'S PLACE.
IT IS A 12 ROOM HOSTEL IN THE MIDDLE.
THIS IS ON THE SAME STREET.
THIS IS ON OLA.
IT IS IN THE SAME LOCATION.
BUT THESE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD EXAMPLES OF HOW DIVERSE OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS ARE.

THESE ALREADY EXIST.
BASICALLY, WE HAD MISSING MIDDLE BEFORE IT WAS TRENDING.
MISSING MIDDLE EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF NEW MISSING MIDDLE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS HIGHLAND.
THAT'S ABOUT 15 BLOCKS SOUTH.
BUT THAT'S CLOSER TO COLUMBUS AND THEY GIVE THEM R-20 DOWN
THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE R-10 BY MARTIN LUTHER KING, WHICH I DON'T
QUITE UNDERSTAND BASED ON TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
AND THEN THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS ACTUALLY ON COLUMBUS, AND
THAT IS A DUPLEX IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD BE MISSING
MIDDLE THAT I FIND RELATIVELY CONSISTENT WITH THIS PROJECT
ARE THESE TWO.
I INCLUDED A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT LAND USE CODES IN HERE
FOR YOU GUYS.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS
KNOW THEM, BUT THERE ARE REALLY GOOD ONES TALKING ABOUT HOW
THIS WORKS AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH WHAT
IT ALREADY IS, A COOL, ECLECTIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
ONE THING THAT I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR IS I HAD THE ABILITY
TO WORK WITH THIS COUNCIL AND STAFF AND BRIAN SEEL FOR THE
TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY DISTRICT.

AND BASICALLY THE TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY DISTRICT WAS
DESIGNED TO CREATE MORE EQUITABLE, DIVERSE, AND SUSTAINABLE
LIVING ENVIRONMENTS THAT CAN BETTER ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF
OUR RESIDENTS.
THIS WAS FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND ADOPTED IN
2023.
THIS IS THE NEXT STEP.
SO ONCE WE GET COMP PLAN AMENDED, I'M BACK IN FRONT WORKING
ON DESIGN FOR THE REZONING.
ADDITIONALLY, I REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M ALWAYS AROUND SO I ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT I'M INCLUDING
PEOPLE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS.
THE LAND USE COMMITTEE FOR THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE
TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION BOARD, YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE
BULLET, PROVIDED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE FUN THING IS, SO DID THE NEIGHBORS.
EVERY CHECK BOX YOU'LL SEE IN YELLOW, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED
SITE.
THESE ARE ALL THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS THAT ARE LIKE GREAT,
LIKE, LET'S DO THIS.
THAT HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE PROJECT.
SO IN CLOSING, I BELIEVE THAT R-20 IS THE APPROPRIATE
TRANSITION IN THIS LOCATION.
THE R-20 DOES NOT SET A PRECEDENT.
COMP PLANS, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, ARE UNIQUE AND DONE CASE BY

CASE.
JUST BECAUSE THIS GOES DOESN'T MEAN THE NEXT ONE MAKES
SENSE.
I ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF SEEKING ANY PARKING
WAIVERS.
AND ANY CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE OR TRAFFIC OR PARKING, THAT'S
GOING TO BE HANDLED THROUGH THE ZONING PART OF THIS.
GO BACK THROUGH ZONING, WE CAN HANDLE ALL THOSE CONCERNS
WITH NEIGHBORS.
DO I BELIEVE THAT THE R-20 IS -- I DO BELIEVE R-20 IS
CONSISTENT AND VALUES WILL NOT BE HURT BY THIS.
I AM PERSONALLY COMMITTED TO PHYSICAL COMPATIBILITY THROUGH
THE MASSING AND ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL ON THIS PROJECT.
SO IN FINAL PHASE FOR YOU, MY REQUEST TODAY IS THAT WE FIND
CPA 24-08 CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BASED
ON THE FOLLOWING POLICIES.
THANK YOU GUYS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
5:41:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
IS ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
COME ON UP ONE BY ONE.
WE'LL TAKE YOU ONE AT A TIME.
JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
FEEL FREE TO COME ON UP.
YES, MA'AM.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:42:11PM >> MY NAME IS TINA DALLAS.
I LIVE WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
HELLO EVERYONE, BY THE WAY.
SORRY.
I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.
I LIVE WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
MATT HAS NEVER COME TO ME OR THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ALSO LIVE
IN THE AREA.
WE DO OBJECT TO THIS PROPOSAL.
HIS PLAN IS TO BUILD DUPLEXES.
MY QUESTION IS, RESIDENTIAL 10 SAYS LIMITED TOWNHOMES AND
DUPLEXES.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE NEEDS THIS PROPOSAL.
THE OTHER THING IS, THIS OPENS US UP TO HAVE CONDOMINIUMS
AND WHAT VALUE DOES THAT BRING TO OUR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME
AREA.
WITHIN BLOCKS OF MY PARTICULAR HOUSE, IT'S MOSTLY SINGLE
HOMES, AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I PURCHASED AND MOVED TO
THE AREA.
SORRY.
I HAVE A LOT OF POINTS.
I FEEL THAT THIS PROPOSAL THREATENS THE CHARACTER OF THE
COMMUNITY.
I LIVE IN A 1916 BUNGALOW.

AND I MOVED HERE FOR THE CHARACTER OF THIS COMMUNITY.
ALSO, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE AS WELL.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE DRAINAGE AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
THIS JUST SETS A PRECEDENT TO CAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO
BECOME A LOT MORE DENSE AND POSSIBLY HAVE CONDOMINIUMS IN
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
IT JUST DOESN'T FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU.
5:44:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:44:07PM >> MY NAME IS MATT COHEN.
207 WEST VIRGINIA.
SAW MY HOUSE EARLIER.
I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS TO THE EAST.
I THINK WHEN YOU GET NEW NEIGHBORS, IT'S KIND OF A ROLL OF
THE DICE.
I'D RATHER ROLL IT ONCE THAN WITH HOWEVER MANY UNITS HE
PLANS ON BUILDING.
I ALSO HEARD COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ASK ABOUT THE PROPERTIES
THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED FOR R-20.
I KNOW THAT THE ONES ALONG VIRGINIA ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES,
EVEN IF THEY ARE CURRENTLY ZONED AT R-20.
I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THOSE LOOK LIKE R-20 PROPERTIES AT

THE MOMENT.
I DON'T HAVE PICTURES.
BUT I KNOW THE ONES THAT ARE ON VIRGINIA.
THAT IS THE CASE.
MR. SINK MENTIONED ALSO THAT PEOPLE FLY THROUGH THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S CONSTANTLY USED AS CUT-THRU.
PEOPLE GET OFF OF MLK AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THIS JUST FURTHER CONGESTS IT.
WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO, THE POWER POLE ON THE PROPERTY IN
QUESTION WAS KNOCKED OVER DURING AN ACCIDENT.
I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED MORE CARS ON THE STREET.
ON OUR BLOCK, THREE UNDER ONE.
I WOULD RATHER NOT FURTHER PUT THEM AT RISK.
THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
THANKS.
5:45:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:45:29PM >> HELLO.
DANA LAZARUS.
I BIKED ALL THE WAY HERE FROM MY HOUSE BECAUSE I AM
PASSIONATE ABOUT PROVIDING MORE HOUSING FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA AND ALSO BECAUSE IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DAY.

I'M HONESTLY REALLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THE CITY STAFF
FOUND IT INCONSISTENT WHEN IT'S A BLOCK AWAY FROM SO MANY
THINGS, FROM ALREADY LIKE UPZONED AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
THIS ZONING DESIGNATION THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS ONE JUMP
UP FROM THE ONE THAT IS EXISTING, ONE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR UP,
IF YOU WILL.
THIS LOCATION IS LESS THAN A MILE FROM A GROCERY STORE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL SCHOOLS IN LESS THAN A MILE RADIUS.
I BIKED HERE TONIGHT FROM A LOCATION, MY HOUSE IS ABOUT THE
SAME DISTANCE AS THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY.
IT'S ALSO RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROUTE 1 BUS LINE, WHICH IS SOON
TO BE FARE FREE.
THIS IS A GREAT SPACE FOR US BE PROVIDING MORE HOUSING.
I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE NUMBERS ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE
HOUSING WE REALLY NEED IN TAMPA.
A FRIEND OF MINE, I WAS TALKING TO LITERALLY TODAY, WAS
TELLING ME HOW THE YOUTH THAT GO TO TAMPA HEIGHTS JUNIOR
CIVIC ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR AFTER-SCHOOL CARE, THAT SHE'S
WORKED WITH OVER THE YEARS HAVE ALL MOVED OUT.
THERE'S BEEN A 100% DISPLACEMENT RATE OF THOSE
UNDERPRIVILEGED FAMILIES IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
SO I APPLAUD THE SMALL-SCALE DEVELOPER FOR TAKING A RISK TO
GIVE TAMPA MORE HOUSING.
SMALL-SCALE DEVELOPMENT ISN'T EASY.
IT MIGHT BE THE HARDEST KIND OF DEVELOPMENT TO ACCOMPLISH

BECAUSE OF ALL THE LITTLE RULES LIKE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS
AND PARKING THAT GET IN THE WAY.
THIS IS ONLY FIVE ADDITIONAL UNITS.
THAT'S NOT THAT MUCH PARKING.
LIKE I SAID, THEY CAN WALK, THEY CAN BIKE.
AND SO IT'S SMALL-SCALE DEVELOPMENT REALLY MAKES A
DIFFERENCE.
IT REALLY DOES PROVIDE THAT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THAT WE
DESPERATELY NEED IN TAMPA.
ONE THING THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT, YES,
GENTRIFICATION IS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM BUT EXCLUSION THROUGH
SINGLE-FAMILY ONLY ZONING IN MY OPINION IS WORSE.
RATHER THAN PROVIDING MORE HOUSING TYPES FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T
AFFORD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN THIS CITY, IN THIS MARKET,
YOU'RE GOING TO FAVOR PRIVILEGED SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEOWNERS
SITTING THERE WATCHING THE RESALE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES GO UP
AND UP, WHY?
IS THAT YOUR JOB?
SORRY.
I PROMISE THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES IS GOING TO BE OKAY,
ESPECIALLY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT PROVIDING MORE HOUSING, MORE HOUSING
TYPES FOR THOSE WHO REALLY NEED IT, RENTERS AND PEOPLE WHO
NEED THE SMALLER SCALE DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

5:48:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:48:28PM >> GOOD EVENING.
NATHAN HAGAN.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON MY POINT OF VIEW ON THE
SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT.
WHEN I MOVED BACK TO TAMPA, I DON'T KNOW, SIX YEARS AGO, I
LIVED IN SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ABOUT FIVE BLOCKS NORTH OF
HERE.
WHEN I LEFT THAT HOUSE, IT WAS BECAUSE I COULDN'T AFFORD TO
LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THAT TIME AND BECAUSE I DIDN'T
LIKE THE HOUSING OPTIONS THAT EXISTED FOR ME THEN.
IF THESE TYPES OF HOMES WERE BUILT TEN YEARS AGO, I WOULD
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STAY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WOULD HAVE
LIKED TO AND I WOULD HAVE HAD MORE OPTIONS AND MANY MORE
PEOPLE WOULD HAVE OPTIONS IF WE HAVE HOMES LIKE THAT.
IF YOU LOOK IN THE AREA AND TRY TO FIND HOMES LIKE THIS THE
PRESENTER POINTED OUT SEVERAL THAT EXIST.
HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT?
THERE IS A SUPPLY AND DEMAND PROBLEM.
THERE IS -- IT IS A FOUNDATIONAL PROBLEM THAT'S DRIVING THIS
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ISSUE THAT IS AT THE CENTER OF OUR
POLICIES THAT EXIST ALREADY IN OUR COMP PLAN.
WE NEED TO CREATE ENOUGH HOUSING FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO GROW.

THAT IS A REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT DRIVES
YOUR ZONING POWERS.
IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, AS WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED IN
APPROVING A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON OUR OBLIGATION
WITH STATE LAW REGARDING OUR ABILITY TO MANAGE LAND USE IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SO I'LL JUST SAY WE NEED MORE TYPES OF HOUSING, AND THIS IS
A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT I WOULD HAVE
REALLY LIKED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THE
NEIGHBORHOOD MORE AFFORDABLE TO ME.
I THINK THAT'S COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THIS
WOULD IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF YOU THINK KEEPING PEOPLE
LIKE ME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE HELPFUL.
5:50:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:50:12PM >> HI.
MY NAME IS CATHERINE OLIVEIRA.
FORMER ST. PETE NEIGHBOR AND NOW A CURRENT WEST TAMPA
RESIDENT.
I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING.
SPEAKING FROM A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE, TWO MONTHS AGO,
OUR HOUSE WAS COMPLETELY FLOODED AND DESTROYED BY HURRICANE
HELENE.

MY WHOLE FAMILY WAS UPROOTED AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WHEN WE ORIGINALLY MOVED TO FLORIDA, WE HAD LIVED IN TAMPA
AND WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE BACK, BUT WERE
COMPLETELY SHOCKED AT THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME PRICES.
SO THE ONLY WAY OUR FAMILY COULD AFFORD TO CONTINUE BEING
HOMEOWNERS IN THE URBAN CORE WAS TO BUY A TOWNHOME, ONE OF
THESE DUPLEXES.
AND WE MOVED THERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
MY HUSBAND AND I, OUR TWO KIDS AND OUR FOUR DOGS.
YEAH.
IT'S GREAT.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ARMORY GARDENS IS ALREADY AN R-20 ZONED
AREA.
I KNOW THAT'S BEING REQUESTED TODAY.
FROM EXPERIENCE, I THINK WHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE.
WE'VE MET ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT HOMES.
NEW DUPLEXES, OLDER HOMES, BIG, SMALL, AND I THINK THAT'S
WHAT MAKES IT VERY SPECIAL AND ALLOWS TO WELCOME FAMILIES OF
DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS AND BACKGROUND AND I BELIEVE THE
SAME LOGIC APPLIES TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT, I FELT COMPELLED TO SHOW MY
SUPPORT AND HIGHLIGHT HOW PROJECTS LIKE THIS AFFECT PEOPLE
LIKE ME.
AND ALLOW US TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AREAS THAT WE

HAVE BEEN PRICED OUT OF.
THANK YOU.
5:51:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:51:48PM >> HI.
CAROL SANTOS.
I LIVE ON OLA AVENUE PRETTY MUCH CORNER ADJACENT TO THE
PROPERTY WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT.
THE COMMENT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS SITTING THERE
WATCHING THEIR PROPERTY, I'M A SINGLE MOTHER.
I SCRAPED UP MY SAVINGS AND I PURPOSELY CHOSE THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WAS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, BECAUSE
KIDS COULD BE THERE, THE DOGS COULD BE THERE.
IT WAS WHAT ATTRACTED ME TO THAT AREA.
SO TO SAY THAT BRINGING THESE DUPLEXES IS BENEFICIAL TO
ANYBODY THERE, I JUST DON'T SEE IT.
ALSO, THEY KEEP MENTIONING THE R-20 ZONING AROUND THE AREA,
BUT THEY ARE REFERRING TO LIKE FLORIDA AVENUE, TAMPA AVENUE.
THOSE ARE BUSY, YES, THAT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
THOSE ARE VERY BUSY STREETS.
BUT WHEN YOU STEP INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S QUIET.
IT'S SINGLE FAMILIES.
IT'S ALL A LOT OF OLDER HOMES.
THE LOT NEXT TO ME ACTUALLY WAS ONE HOME, A DEVELOPER

PURCHASED IT, PUT TWO HOMES ON IT.
EACH HOME SOLD FOR $800,000.
NOT ONE PERSON UP HERE HAS MENTIONED HOW MUCH THESE HOMES
ARE GOING TO GO FOR.
THIS AFFORDABLE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY TRUE.
THESE ARE ALL MUCH OLDER HOMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY STILL
AFFORDABLE.
SO I'M AGAINST THIS.
THE WHOLE REASON I BOUGHT THERE AND I JUST MOVED THERE.
I GOT ALL MY SAVINGS TOGETHER TO MOVE THERE.
IT IS AN OLDER HOME, BUT I LOVE IT.
THERE IS A PARK BEHIND US.
A BEAUTIFUL PARK, AND I JUST DON'T AGREE.
5:53:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:53:37PM >> MY NAME IS MINDY FISHER.
I LIVE ON NORTH OLA RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CAROL.
EVERYBODY KEEPS MENTIONING THESE AFFORDABLE HOMES.
I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE AFFORDABLE HOME IN THE AREA THAT'S BEING
BUILT.
IT'S BEEN A MILLION FOR EACH OF THESE TOWNHOMES.
SO IF THEY THINK THAT'S AFFORDABLE, I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT'S
NOT AFFORDABLE, THAT WE ALL SCRAPE AND WE ALL WORK AND WE

MAKE OUR MONEY BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THAT THIS IS
COMING IN AND GETTING -- WE'RE BEING PRICED OUT OF OUR OWN
HOMES.
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.
THANK YOU.
5:54:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:54:13PM >> MY NAME IS JASON MOORE.
I'VE BEEN A TAMPA RESIDENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR ME SPEAK
ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT I THINK REALLY IS CRUCIAL FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD'S FUTURE.
ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, I BOUGHT A DUPLEX RIGHT OFF FLORIDA
AVENUE.
I RENTED OUT ONE SIDE AND I LIVED ON THE OTHER SIDE AS I WAS
STARTING MY CAREER.
ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, I MOVED OUT AND SINCE I'VE BEEN ABLE
TO RENT BOTH SIDES AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE.
MY TENANTS ARE REAL PEOPLE WITH BLUE COLLAR AND SERVICE JOBS
WHO WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD RENT TO BE ABLE TO RENT A
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED HOME FOR THREE TO FOUR THOUSAND
DOLLARS PER MONTH WHICH IS THE GOING RATE FOR A RESPECTABLE
HOME IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.

I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT MY DUPLEX IS STILL PROVIDING ALL OF
THESE PEOPLE AFFORDABLE PLACES TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ALL THESE YEARS LATER.
I'VE SEEN MANY PEOPLE GET PRICED OUT OF THE MARKET AND
PRICED OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE NEW
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND IN
TURN LESS AND LESS AFFORDABLE.
WHAT I BELIEVE WE NEED IS MORE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS TO A WIDER
GROUP OF PEOPLE.
A WIDER GROUP OF PEOPLE.
JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST FOR RENTERS AND FIRST-TIME
HOME BUYERS.
WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT, I KNEW I NEEDED TO COME
FORWARD AND VOICE MY SUPPORT.
THIS IS REALLY GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
PLEASE APPROVE IT.
5:55:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:55:44PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS CHANEL.
I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH MY FIANC , TEDDY.
AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE
TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE WITH YOU ALL.
RECENTLY, TWO YEARS AGO, MY FIANC AND I HAD THE DREAM OF

BEING FIRST-TIME HOMEOWNERS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS AND WE GOT
REALLY LUCKY IN FINDING A BUNGALOW JUST A FEW BLOCKS AWAY
FROM HERE WHICH WE'RE SO INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE FOR.
BUT DURING THE TIME OF LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE
WITNESSED A LOT OF BIG BUILDERS WHO COME IN WITH THESE
REALLY LARGE PROJECTS.
THEY ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE EASILY TWO, THREE
TIMES THE SIZE OF OURS, AND THEY EASILY SELL FOR 900,000 OR
MORE.
FRANKLY, IT'S BEEN EYE OPENING FOR US BECAUSE WE KNOW WE
WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD THAT.
WE PROBABLY WON'T IN OUR LIFETIME NOR WOULD MANY OF OUR
FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, AS
MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN THIS ROOM HAVE SHARED.
THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR MORE DIVERSITY.
WE HOPE THERE IS A CLEAR NEED FOR MORE DIVERSE HOUSING FOR
THOSE WHO NEED IT.
THANK YOU.
5:56:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:56:57PM >> MY NAME IS TED MARCELLO.
I WANTED TO ADD THAT WHILE I'M HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS A
RESIDENT OF TAMPA HEIGHTS, I DO WANT IT TO BE KNOWN THAT THE
TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION HAS EXPRESSED ITS SUPPORT

FOR THE PROPOSED ITEM IN A LETTER SENT TO CITY COUNCIL
EARLIER THIS WEEK AS ITS THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO INCREASING
DENSITY IN THE AREA DOES ALIGN WITH THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, SPECIFICALLY AS PART OF THE PLAN'S VISION
THAT STATES TAMPA HEIGHTS HOUSING CHOICES WILL BE DIVERSE
AND AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL INCOMES AND CULTURES.
IN THAT LAST PART, I AM FAR TOO FAMILIAR WITH THIS NEED AS A
FIRST GENERATION AMERICAN, I HAVE BORN WITNESS TO MY FAMILY
BEING PRICED OUT OF THE AREA DUE TO THAT VERY LACK OF REAL
ALTERNATIVE HOUSING OPTIONS.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE DESERVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALL
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HOME AND ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS
REQUEST.
THANK YOU.
5:57:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
IF NOT, I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT FOR A REBUTTAL.
SIR, IF YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL, COME ON UP.
YOU GET FIVE MINUTES.
5:58:09PM >> THANK YOU GUYS.
I LOVE THE FEEDBACK.
LIKE, THIS IS WHY I DO WHAT I DO AND WHY I SPEND THE TIME I
DO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT STRUCK ME IN THE FEEDBACK OF IT,
THOUGH, WERE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES SELLING ANYWHERE BETWEEN --

UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SOLVE.
I AM A ONE-MAN SHOW.
LIKE, I AM A BROKER AND I HAD THE HOME BUILDING SITE.
I DON'T WANT TO DO BATTLES FOR NO REASON, BUT I KNOW THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS AFFORDABLE OPTIONS.
SO WHEN I SAY I'M DOING THIS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M DOING
IT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AFFORDABILITY.
I DON'T WANT MY NEIGHBORS GETTING PRICED OUT.
SOMETHING A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT IS THAT OUR
EXISTING NEIGHBORS ARE GETTING PRICED OUT BECAUSE THE
INSURANCE BILLS ON 1930 BUNGALOWS HAVE TRIPLED FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE.
EVEN IF YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU
HAVE EQUITY, IT'S EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE
TO STAY HERE SOMETIMES.
PROVIDING NEW OPTIONS OF MORE AFFORDABLE, SMALLER FORMAT
HOMES IS ESSENTIAL TO KEEPING PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND
ALSO GETTING NEW BLOOD, RIGHT?
LIKE, THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR YOUNG FAMILIES AND PEOPLE
WHO ARE INTERESTED IN GIVING UP THEIR CAR.
LITERALLY 540 FEET AWAY FROM A BUS STOP.
WE'RE LESS THAN A MILE FROM DOWNTOWN.
I CAN BE IN ARMATURE WORKS IN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES ON MY

BICYCLE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE THIS KIND OF PROJECT MAKES SENSE
THAN WHERE THIS IS.
THE OTHER THING I THOUGHT IS GREAT IS THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK
HARD TO PUT MONEY DOWN TO BUY THEIR HOUSE, SAME THING.
PEOPLE WILL SAVE MONEY TO PUT DOWN TO BUY THEIR FIRST HOUSE.
DOGS AND KIDS LIVE IN TOWN HOUSES TOO.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS OUT THERE.
I'M PERSONALLY COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE MY NEIGHBORHOOD
STAYS THE COOL ECLECTIC THING IT IS.
I'M GOING OUT ON A LIMB TO DO IT THIS WAY INSTEAD OF
BUILDING A McMANN SCHUSS AND MAKING A HIGHER PROFIT
MANSION.
BUILDING A REALLY EXPENSIVE 4,000-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE DOES NOT
SERVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT MAY SERVE ME INDIVIDUALLY.
I'M BEYOND THAT IN MY LIFE.
I NEED A LEGACY.
I'M ALWAYS AROUND AND I ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ALL MY NEIGHBORS
TO MAKE SURE I'M DOING THE BEST THING FOR US.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU.
PLEASE SUPPORT THE CHANGE IN DENSITY.
6:00:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN --

6:00:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SIR, YOU MENTIONED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOUR OR FIVE TIMES IN
YOUR DELIBERATION AND YOUR REBUTTAL.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
6:00:41PM >> ESSENTIALLY MISSING MIDDLE ALLOWS FOR A SMALLER FORMAT.
INSTEAD OF 3,000 OR 2500 SQUARE FOOT FLOOR PLAN, YOU CAN GO
DOWN TO 1500 OR 1800 SQUARE FEET.
TAKE THAT TIMES A HOUSE AND YOU'LL GET A LOWER PRICE HOME.
IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE UNDER CERTAIN INCOME THRESHOLDS BY
PRODUCT.
IT'S GOING TO CREATE A MORE AFFORDABLE OPTION.
6:01:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION --
6:01:03PM >> IN MY WORLD, UNDER 600.
6:01:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE MAY BE IN DIFFERENT WORLDS.
WHAT IS THIS PROJECT YOU'RE HAVING TO ASK FOR MORE UNITS,
WHAT ARE THE COST?
I WANT YOU TO SAY ABOUT.
6:01:22PM >> SAY UNDER 600,000.
STICKS AND BRICKS JUST FOR COST FOR ME STICKS AND BRICKS IS
230 A SQUARE FOOT PLUS THE COST OF LAND.
INFLATION IS NOT GREAT ON ANYTHING.
TO BE REALISTIC AND NOT SET BASS EXPECTATIONS, 230 BUCKS A
SQUARE FOOT IS THE COST TO BUILD PLUS LAND COST.
MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 1800, YOU'LL GET THERE PRETTY QUICK.
6:01:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL MEMBER

HENDERSON.
6:01:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HIT ON A BUNCH OF POINTS THAT I TRY TO
MAKE ON LAND USE AS WELL.
YOU'RE IN THE SAME BLOCK.
YOU'RE IN THE VERY FIRST BLOCK COMING OFF OF MLK, CORRECT?
6:02:05PM >> RIGHT.
6:02:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO ON THE NORTH END OF THIS BLOCK IS
MIXED-USE COMMERCIAL?
6:02:10PM >> IT IS A PARKING LOT AND AN OFFICE SPACE ON BOTH SIDES.
6:02:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EAST AND WEST ON MLK?
OFFICES AND COMMERCIAL?
6:02:20PM >> RIGHT.
6:02:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
I'LL SAVE THE REST OF MY COMMENTS.
I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY.
IT WASN'T CLEAR.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR IN MY ASSESSMENT.
6:02:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MISSING MIDDLE.
CAN'T YOU GET TO THE MISSING MIDDLE WITH RS 10?
6:02:41PM >> NO, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THE ACREAGE AND THE STAFF
REPORT BROUGHT THAT UP.
THE MAX WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW PUTS IT AT FIVE UNITS.
THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN GET TO A DUPLEX ON EACH LOT IS TO GO
TO R-20 WHICH WOULD GIVE A MAXIMUM OF 10.

IT IS ACTUALLY 9 AND HAD TO GO FOR BONUS DENSITY.
6:03:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU MENTIONED
THAT THE RS 20, WHICH IS RIGHT ON HIGHLAND AVENUE, THE ONLY
LITTLE SPOT.
THIS IS CLEARLY A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
AND I KNOW WE HAVE DUPLEXES THERE AND THINGS THAT OCCURRED
WHEN THERE WAS NO ORGANIZATION OR STRUCTURE FOR WHAT YOU
COULD BUILD WHEN PEOPLE WERE FLEEING TAMPA HEIGHTS AT ONE
TIME.
THE RS 10 IS FIVE UNITS, RIGHT?
UP TO FIVE UNITS.
6:03:38PM >> ON THIS PARCEL IT ALLOWS UP TO FIVE.
6:03:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BUT TEN -- UP TO TEN
UNITS, WHAT IS IT RS 20 IS UP TO 10, RIGHT?
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY CAN'T YOU BUILD MISSING MIDDLE
WITH RS 10 BECAUSE YOU CAN GO UP.
OR YOU WANT A DUPLEX SIDE BY SIDE.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?
6:04:00PM >> WELL, NO.
THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
RS 20 ALLOWS FOR 20 UNITS PER ACRE.
WE CAN'T GET TO 20 -- THE SIZE OF THE LOT IS ABOUT HALF AN
ACRE.
IN ORDER TO GET 10 UNITS, WE HAVE TO BE AT R-20.
SO THE STAFF REPORT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE MAXIMUM WITH THE

EXISTING AND WHAT IT WILL BE WITH R-20.
R-20 IS NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD MISSING MIDDLE.
6:04:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BUT YOU WANT TO GET TO TEN UNITS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT?
6:04:29PM >> YES.
SO FIVE LOTS, A DUPLEX ON EACH LOT.
THAT IS A TOTAL OF TEN HOUSING UNITS.
6:04:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
6:04:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I JUST WOULD LEAVE IT AT THAT.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION SAID THAT THEY
SUPPORT IT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOOD AND AT THIS TIME, IT DOESN'T -- I DON'T THINK
IT SUPPORTS BUILDING BEYOND THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN THIS
PARTICULAR PART OF TAMPA HEIGHTS BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY A
SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, WHILE
IT DOES HELP SUPPORT THE MISSING MIDDLE, IT DOESN'T
NECESSARILY SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I TEND TO AGREE
WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME AND SPOKE TODAY WHO LIVE WITHIN
CLOSE PROXIMITY.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME TO
CHANGE IT FROM RS 10 TO RS 20.
I'M JUST NOT CONVINCED THAT IS THE BEST USE.
6:05:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
6:05:33PM >> SECOND.

6:05:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
YES, MA'AM.
6:05:41PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE.
I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT IS A STANDARD THAT IS USED FOR
A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING, WHICH THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AMENDMENT.
IT IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION.
SO COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT AS A POLICY MATTER
THE REQUESTED CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION FOR
THIS PARCEL OF PROPERTY.
I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
6:06:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK?
6:06:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE
INCREASED DENSITY IS NEEDED.
IT IS RIGHT OFF OF MLK, RIGHT ON A BUS LINE.
ACTUALLY, OLA AVENUE, WHICH I'M SHOCKED PEOPLE DIDN'T
MENTION, IS THE NEW BIKE BOULEVARD.
THE BIKE BOULEVARD IS GOING RIGHT DOWN THIS OLA AVENUE,
WHICH WILL ADD MORE DIVERSE TRANSPORTATION ALONG THIS

CORRIDOR.
TAMPA HEIGHTS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT PUSHES FOR
CHANGE IN DENSITY.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS FIGHTING TO
KEEP THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, THERE.
WE DON'T SEE THAT IN MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EXTENT
THAT TAMPA HEIGHTS IS SUPPORTING THIS.
SO I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR IT AND I WILL --
6:07:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU WANT TO READ THE ORDINANCE?
6:07:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL READ THE ORDINANCE.
FILE TA/CPA 24-08, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3901 AND 3905 NORTH OLA
AVENUE AND 3904 NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL 10,
R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL 20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:07:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN, DISCUSSION.
6:07:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SINK, CAN YOU THROW UP SLIDE NUMBER 9
SO I CAN TALK TO IT?
I JUST WANTED TO USE THIS AS A VISUAL.
THIS IS WHY I CONCUR WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IN THE
ASSESSMENT ABOUT WHY I WAS ASKING THE DEVELOPMENT ALREADY

EXISTING ON MLK.
IT'S NO SECRET THAT I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR TRANSPORTATION AND
TRANSPORTATION FRIENDLY ZONING AND LAND USE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, MLK IS THAT EAST-WEST CORRIDOR.
IT IS A MAJOR EAST-WEST TRANSIT STREET.
THIS IS THE VERY FIRST BLOCK.
I'VE SAID IT FROM THE DAIS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES,
ANYBODY THAT LIVES WITHIN A BLOCK OF A MAJOR TRANSIT
CORRIDOR EXPECT INCREASED DENSITY.
THEN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT STEP-DOWN DENSITY.
IN A PERFECT WORLD AS WE LOOK AT THIS ON MLK, YOU WOULD HAVE
THAT MORE INTENSE DENSITY ALONG MLK, AND YOU WOULD CONTINUE
TO STEP DOWN DEEPER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, POSSIBLY EVEN
DEEPER THAN THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
SO I THINK GOING TO R-20 IN THIS IS QUITE MODEST.
FOR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOUR THOUGHTS -- I UNDERSTAND
WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE BECAUSE ECHOING SOME OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.
I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU ASK A DEVELOPER THE COST OF
DIRT AND AGAIN, SO IF HE DEVELOPED IN SINGLE-FAMILY, HE
WOULD HAVE TO BUILD 4,000-SQUARE-FOOT UNITS TO GET A RETURN
ON THE INVESTMENT.
SO THIS IS WHAT WOULD END UP HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE COST
OF THE DIRT, HAVE TO OVERDEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AND BUILD
THESE BIGGER HOUSES.

THIS WAY THEY CAN BUILD MORE MODEST AND SMALLER HOUSES
BECAUSE THE COST OF THE DIRT.
IF THE DIRT WAS CHEAPER --
6:09:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NOT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PART --
6:09:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS JUST ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS FULLY ANSWERED.
MY BIG THING, AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, CAN'T SEE
WHERE I'M POINTING, YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AND LOOK AT TAMPA
STREET AND THE WAY THE LAND USE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED,
SO YOU GET DOWN TO THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND THEN THE
R-20 DOWN TO THE SOUTH AND, OF COURSE, TO THE EAST.
IF YOU ARE JUST GOING TO NATURALLY CREATE IN AN OFFICE HOW
YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS LAND, YOU WOULD CONTINUE THAT
R-20 ALL THE WAY UP TAMPA STREET AND ALL THE WAY EAST-WEST
OFF OF MLK AND TRANSITION INTO SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD
FURTHER SOUTH.
AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN
THE RIGHT PLACE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS IS KIND OF HIGH AND DRY.
AND IT'S ALONG OUR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE TRANSPORTATION
OPTIONS THAT I'M PURSUING BEFORE I DIE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
IF WE DON'T INCREASE DENSITY ALONG THESE CORRIDORS.
6:10:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON AND COUNCIL
MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN CARLSON.

6:10:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IF IT WERE ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE OR MARTIN
LUTHER KING, I COULD EASILY SEE RS 20 AND BE SUPPORTIVE BUT
THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY COMMUNITY, PERIOD.
AND NOTHING ELSE -- IF I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF
SOUTH TAMPA, YOU-ALL WOULD BE VOTING NO.
SO THIS IS LIKE, I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THIS
IS A SINGLE-FAMILY PARTICULAR AREA.
IF IT WAS ALONG THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, THAT WOULD BE
DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S NOT.
6:11:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
6:11:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.
THIS IS INSIDE THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS CLEARLY INSIDE THE COMMUNITY.
NOT BECAUSE I'M A TAMPA HEIGHTS RESIDENT.
THIS IS CLEARLY INSIDE THE COMMUNITY AND IT DESERVES TO BE
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
6:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND CARLSON.
6:11:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CORNER TO THE RIGHT,
YOU HAVE NORTH BOULEVARD AND MLK.
FIRST ONE THAT HAD A GAS STATION IN THE BACK OF THE PLACE.
IT WAS PACKED EVERY SUNDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
COULDN'T GET NEAR THE PLACE.
ALONG THESE CORRIDORS, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CHANGING, BUT IF

THIS WERE TO HAPPEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ARMENIA AVENUE, YOU
COULDN'T DO IT.
6:12:09PM >> OTHER SIDE OF WHAT STREET?
SORRY, SIR.
6:12:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT, THAT BLOCK YOU'RE IN, THIS IS
ONLY MY OPINION, NOTHING LIKE THAT THERE FROM WHAT I SEE
HERE.
YOU WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE DOING IT.
THEY CALL THE DOMINO EFFECT.
YOU HAVE ONE AND THEN HAVE A LOT MORE.
IF IT IS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE LIKE I SEE NOW, NOT
SAYING I'M HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT OR ANYBODY ELSE IS WRONG,
YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE IN ZONINGS.
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
MY WHOLE LIFE WHEN I WAS LIVING IN THE HOUSING PROJECT.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TRANSPORTATION, BUT THIS IS THE START OF
SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE END OF.
6:12:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
6:12:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SINCE THIS IS LEGISLATIVE, I CAN SAY THINGS
THAT I COULDN'T SAY IN QUASI-JUDICIAL.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMES UP IS WE SHOULDN'T PUT
THINGS IN OTHER PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE WOULDN'T PUT
IN OUR OWN.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVED IN FOR 15 YEARS IN HYDE PARK WAS

FULL OF THESE --
6:13:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHAT THESE?
6:13:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DUPLEXES.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT -- AND I WON'T MENTION ANY NAMES, THE
PROBLEM IS IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND CUTS AND PASTES
SOMETHING FROM THE SUBURBS INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN IT
LOOKS TERRIBLE.
WE ARE NOT APPROVING THE EXACT PLAN HERE TODAY.
BUT I THINK FROM YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
THAT YOU HAVE AN AESTHETIC, IF YOU GO TO HYDE PARK, GO TO
THE MOVIE THEATER IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE JUST NORTH OF THERE,
ALL AROUND THERE ARE THESE.
THEY ALL LOOK LIKE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
SO IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM -- THIS IS HISTORIC
NEIGHBORHOOD, NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, LOCAL HISTORIC
DISTRICT, DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE LOOK AND FEEL.
IN FACT, IT ADDED TO IT BECAUSE THERE WERE DEVELOPERS THAT
WENT IN AND DID THE RIGHT THING.
IF YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER, IF YOU ARE A DEVELOPER LOOKING
TO TAKE A SUBURBAN DESIGN AND STICK IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.
I THINK READING BETWEEN THE LINES WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION SAID, YOU HAVE THE SENSITIVITY AND AESTHETIC TO
BUILD SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE'LL LOOK AT THAT LATER.

I'M AGAINST PUTTING MULTIFAMILY IN A PLACE ALSO WHERE
THERE'S SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT IN A CASE WHERE SOMEBODY IS GOING
TO PUT IT IN AND IN A WAY THAT IT HAS THE AESTHETIC AND FITS
IN AND ADDS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN I'M NOT AGAINST.
6:14:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
6:14:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO PUT
HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THAT'S PRESENTED.
THAT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
RIGHT NOW IT IS ABOUT CHANGING THE LAND CODE.
HE COULD SELL IT TOMORROW AND THEN IF WE VOTE TO CHANGE IT
TO R-10, THEN THAT PERSON CAN MAXIMIZE IT AND IT WOULD BE
SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
6:15:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER PROBLEM HE MENTIONED IS THE
McMANSIONS.
I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THOSE.
THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE BECAUSE PART OF THE
PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH STORMWATER IS ALL THESE
McMANSIONS DON'T HAVE A YARD AND THEY ARE BUILT UP HIGHER
AND RUN WATER INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
6:15:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
6:15:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
6:15:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
6:15:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

6:15:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
6:15:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
6:15:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO.
6:15:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
6:15:52PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND HENDERSON
VOTING NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
2024, AT 10:00 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:16:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 6.
6:16:29PM >> GOOD EVENING.
ERICA LARSON, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THIS ITEM IS PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION, CIS, SCHEDULE OF
PROJECTS UPDATE.
THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
CHAPTER 163 REQUIRES A SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS OR THE LIST OF
PROJECTS ADDRESSING LEVEL OF SERVICE AND ADOPTED IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BE UPDATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
THE UPDATE WOULD REPLACE EXISTING CIS SCHEDULE AND COMP PLAN
WITH THE SCHEDULE LISTED IN YOUR PACKETS.
THE LATEST SCHEDULE REFLECTS THE ADOPTED C.I.P. THAT WERE
RECENTLY APPROVED.
THE UPDATE IS ACCOMPLISHED BY ORDINANCE WHICH IS EXPLICITLY
PERMITTED UNDER CHAPTER 163.

THIS IS A ROUTINE ANNUAL UPDATE.
WE COME BEFORE YOU EACH YEAR WITH THIS INFORMATION TO
SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE.
CITY STAFF IDENTIFIED PROJECTS IN THE CIS THAT AFFECT THE
LEVEL OF SERVICE.
THESE ITEMS MAKE UP THE SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS.
THERE WAS A RECENT CHAPTER 163 UPDATE THAT ALSO REQUIRES THE
CIS TO INCLUDE BASIN MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN, BMAP PROJECTS
UPDATED ANNUAL.
IT IS A FRAMEWORK FOR WATER QUALITY RESTORATION, THAT
INCLUDES A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF SOLUTIONS TO ACHIEVE THE
POLLUTANT REDUCTIONS ESTABLISHED BY A TOTAL MAXIMUM DAILY
LOAD TMDL AS DEFINED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.
THESE BMAP PROJECTS WERE COORDINATED WITH CITY STAFF FROM
THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PLANS OF OTHER AGENCIES ARE INCORPORATED
BY REFERENCE.
DISPLAYED IS A SUMMARY OF THE CIS SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WHICH
ARE PLACED INTO SEVEN PROGRAM AREAS.
YOU CAN SEE THE LARGEST GROUPS IN TERMS OF FUNDING ARE
WASTEWATER AND WATER.
THE TOTAL FUNDING AMOUNT FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 THROUGH FISCAL
YEAR 29 IS 1.331 BILLION FOR 75 PROJECTS.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF LEVEL OF SERVICE PROJECT

TYPES IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
LEVEL OF SERVICE PRIORITIES OUTLINED IN THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT SECTION, OBJECTIVE 1.3 AND POLICY 1.3.2.
WHICH STATE THE SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS SHOULD BE PLANNED TO
BOTH ELIMINATE EXISTING DEFICIENCIES AND REPLACE ONE-OUT
FACILITIES.
ON THIS SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE OBJECTIVE AND POLICY EXCERPTS
USED IN THE CONSISTENCY REVIEW, HOWEVER A FULL LIST OF THE
POLICIES CAN BE FOUND IN YOUR PACKET.
THE COASTAL OBJECTIVE IN POLICY LISTED DISCUSSES THE COASTAL
HIGH HAZARD AREA AND LIMITING PUBLIC EXPENDITURES FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES WITHIN IT.
AFTER REVIEW, STAFF FOUND THAT PROJECTS WITHIN THE CHHA WERE
MINIMAL AND WERE EITHER TO SERVE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT,
REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT OR ENHANCE PUBLIC ACCESS TO NATURAL
AREAS.
THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OBJECTIVE AND POLICY DISCUSSES
PROJECT FUNDING SHOULD BE -- SHOULD FIRST BE EXPENDED ON
PROJECTS THAT MAINTAIN LEVEL OF SERVICE AND CORRECT
DEFICIENCIES BEFORE BEING EXPENDED ON PROJECTS THAT SERVE
FUTURE GROWTH.
THE REST OF THE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES LISTED ON THIS SLIDE
ARE RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC FACILITIES.
PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE CITY OF TAMPA'S PROPOSED
FISCAL YEAR 25 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 29 CIS SCHEDULE OF

PROJECTS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES
OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND RECOMMENDS ADOPTION BY
ORDINANCE.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
6:20:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM?
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 6.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
6?
6:20:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 6 IS FILE CIP-CIS FY 25-29,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT SECTION, BY REPLACING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024
THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION
SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH
FISCAL YEAR 2029 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION SCHEDULE OF

PROJECTS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
6:21:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
6:21:12PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
2024, AT 10:00 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:21:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IF ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON ITEMS NUMBER 7 THROUGH
17, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR
YOU IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
6:21:53PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 7 IS AB 2-24-08.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 4703 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
THIS REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES AS A SMALL
VENUE CLASSIFICATION WITH THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE WITH
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF
PREMISES.

THIS REQUEST WOULD CONTAIN AN INDOOR SALES AREA OF 1,012
SQUARE FEET.
OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA WOULD CONTAIN 779 SQUARE FEET FOR A
TOTAL OF 1,791 SQUARE FEET.
8 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 5 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A WAIVER TO THIS STANDARD AND
THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
I HAVE THE ZONING MAP, THE AERIAL.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL MAP, THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.
SO THIS IS NEBRASKA AVENUE, AND THIS IS CURTIS STREET.
THIS IS OSBORNE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED SH-CG.
IT IS IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS SPECIAL DISTRICT.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WHICH WAS SUBMITTED.
SO THIS IS NEBRASKA AVENUE.
SO THE SUBJECT SITE, THAT PARTICULAR UNIT IS A PART OF A
SUITE IN THIS ONE BUILDING.
SO THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES THERE IN THE STRIP CENTER.
SO THESE AREAS THAT ARE GRAYED OUT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS
REQUEST.
SO THIS IS THE INDOOR AB SALES AREA OUTLINED HERE AND THIS
IS THE OUTDOOR AREA THAT'S LOCATED HERE.
SO VEHICLES WOULD ACCESS THE SITE, THE REAR OF THE SITE
THROUGH THE ALLEY AND THEN THERE IS THE SURFACE PARKING

THAT'S LOCATED THERE BEHIND THE BUILDING ON-SITE.
I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
THIS IS THE SITE.
IT'S ON NEBRASKA IF YOU'RE LOOKING EAST.
JUST A SECOND.
LET ME GO BACK.
THIS IS THE LOCATION.
AND THIS IS THE VIEW IF YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH ON NEBRASKA.
SO THE SITE IS ON THE RIGHT.
THIS IS THE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE ALLEY THAT'S LOOKING NORTH
TOWARDS OSBORNE.
THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS NEBRASKA.
THIS IS THE REAR, ANOTHER VIEW.
THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
THIS IS ACROSS NEBRASKA.
YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER COMMERCIAL THAT'S THERE.
AND THEN THIS IS SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE.
AND THEN THIS IS A VIEW SOUTH OF THE SITE.
SO THE DRC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE
REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
THERE ARE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST
AND SECOND READING.
THIS REQUEST HAD TWO WAIVERS REQUESTED.
WITH THIS APPLICATION.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
6:25:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
6:25:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU.
6:25:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
NO APPLICANT.
YES, THAT'S YOU.
6:25:34PM >> HI.
I'M SHELBI.
SHELBI WEEKS.
4703 NORTH NEBRASKA.
6:25:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ONE.
6:25:47PM >> I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION.
HAPPY TO TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE BUSINESS, WHAT WE OFFER.
SO WE ARE LIKE FLOWER SHOP BY DAY, WINE BAR BY NIGHT.
WE HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION IN BRANDON.
WE'VE BEEN THERE A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS.
SO WE DO A LOT OF WORKSHOPS LIKE FLORAL WORKSHOPS, MAYBE
THINK OF LIKE PAINTING WITH A TWIST BUT WITH FLOWERS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS GOT STARTED WITH THE WINE BAR
PORTION OF IT ALLOWING SALE OF ALCOHOL ALONG WITH FLOWERS.
AND THEN IT KIND OF TOOK OFF FROM THERE.
IN THIS SPACE WE WOULD OFFER THE SAME THING.
IT IS A BIT SMALLER, SO MAYBE A LITTLE LESS WORKSHOPS.
STILL HAVING FLOWERS AND WINE.

6:26:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
THIS IS ITEM 7?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
6:26:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
MOVE AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU 2 FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES/PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES AND MAKING
LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN
LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 4703 NORTH NEBRASKA
AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
6:27:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
6:27:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
YOU WANT TO SEE IF WE APPROVE IT, RIGHT?
6:27:28PM >> I'LL FIND OUT EVENTUALLY.
6:27:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?
6:27:31PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
2024, AT 10:00 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:27:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW GET OUT OF HERE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
6:27:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
NUMBER 8.
6:27:51PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 8 IS AB2-24-11.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 3906 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE, UNIT
3910.
THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION FOR THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY.
THIS REQUEST DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA.
THIS IS ALL CONTAINED INDOOR AREA.
THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.
BUILDING ONE WOULD CONTAIN 4,343 SQUARE FEET AND THEN
BUILDING TWO CONTAINS 580 SQUARE FEET.
THIS GIVES A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 4,923 SQUARE FEET.
AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
THERE ARE 20 SPACES REQUIRED AND PROVIDED ON-SITE.
SO I HAVE A ZONING MAP TO SHOW.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.
THIS IS MacDILL AVENUE.
AND THIS IS BAY VISTA.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IS ZONED CG.
THAT IS THE ZONING THERE.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WHICH WAS SUBMITTED IN THE RECORD.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY THAT'S OUTLINED IN THIS
BOLD LINE.
ACCESS TO THE SITE IS FROM BAY VISTA.
THIS IS ONE POINT OF ACCESS.
YOU CAN ENTER THE SITE AND EXIT.
ON THE WEST AND THIS IS SURFACE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE
LOCATED HERE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL PARKING WHICH WILL BE
PROVIDED IN THIS AREA.
ON THE SITE.
THIS IS THE LARGER OF THE TWO BUILDINGS AND THEN THIS IS THE
SMALLER BUILDING ON-SITE.
WHEN I REFERENCE BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO IN THE STAFF REPORT.
AND THEN I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
SO THIS IS THE SITE.
THIS IS THE WEST VIEW OF THE SITE.
THIS IS ON MacDILL.
THIS IS THAT PARKING AREA WHICH I POINTED OUT.
THAT IS THE NORTH END OF THE SITE.

THIS IS THE ENTRANCE.
IF YOU ENTER IN, THE ONE ON THE LEFT AND THEN THE OTHER
BUILDING.
THIS IS THE VIEW IN THE PARKING AREA.
THIS IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE AND THAT'S THE VIEW ON BAY
VISTA LOOKING EAST.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON MacDILL.
THIS IS ACROSS -- THIS IS TO THE WEST, ACROSS THE STREET.
THIS IS ALSO TO THE WEST.
AND THEN THIS IS THE NORTH END OF THE SITE THAT YOU CAN SEE
AND THEN ALSO ACROSS THE STREET.
THE DRC STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
INCONSISTENT.
THERE ARE TWO WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUESTED WITH THIS REQUEST.
AND THERE ARE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO
BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
6:30:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.
APPLICANT.
6:31:01PM >> TYLER HUDSON.
400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
YOU HAVE A LONG AGENDA, SO WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.
WITH ME HERE THIS EVENING IS MICHAEL LEAVEN WHO IS THE OWNER
OF THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPRIETOR OF THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT

WE'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT.
ALSO HERE IS HIS OPERATING PARTNER AND HIS BROTHER-IN-LAW.
IT IS A FAMILY AFFAIR.
ALSO KALEB JOHNSON HERE, THE DAY-TO-DAY MANAGER OF THE
FACILITY.
UNTIL THE FLOWER SHOP WINE BAR, I THOUGHT WE WOULD BE THE
MOST UNUSUAL USE THIS EVENING.
THIS IS A PRIVATE INDOOR GOLF PRACTICE FACILITY.
I THINK WE KNOW WHERE IT IS.
IT'S ON MacDILL ACROSS FROM BAYSHORE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL
BETWEEN EUCLID AND GANDY.
THIS IS, AGAIN, A PRIVATE MEMBERSHIP BASED GOLF PRACTICE
FACILITY.
TWO GOLF SIMULATOR BAYS WHICH ARE LARGE ROOMS THAT YOU HIT
GOLF BALLS INTO A WALL.
IT'S GROWING IN POPULARITY.
THERE ARE A FEW OF THESE.
CERTAINLY NOT THE FIRST ONE IN TAMPA.
WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BE ABLE TO SELL BEER, WINE, AND
SELTZERS ON PREMISES TO MEMBERS.
BECAUSE IT'S ACCESSED ONLY WITH YOUR PHONE, WITH A BLUETOOTH
KEY CARD, WE HAVE PRECISE DATA ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
THERE.
AT PEAK IT'S MAYBE 8 PEOPLE OR SO.
ON AVERAGE THERE'S REALLY TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.

THIS IS JUST BY ITS NATURE NOT A SITE THAT INVITES A LOT OF
PEOPLE OR LOT OF EXTERNALITIES THAT SPREAD OUT.
PRIVATE EVENTS THAT VERY, VERY OCCASIONALLY HOSTED ON-SITE.
TOP RIGHT, THAT'S ONE OF THE ROOMS.
BELOW IT IS THE OTHER ROOM.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS SORT OF THE COMMON FACILITY THAT JOINS
THE TWO OF THEM AND IS OCCASIONALLY USED FOR EVENTS.
ON PARKING, ALSO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, MIKE WILL ADDRESS THIS
-- NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THAT'S BEEN SERVING ICE CREAM SINCE 1995.
THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THIS IS THE FACILITY NEXT DOOR IN THE SAME BUILDING THAT'S
BEEN THERE SINCE WE BELIEVE THE 1940s.
WE'RE DELAYED BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE BUT FURTHER DELAYED
BECAUSE WE DECIDED TO ADD IN THIS PARCEL THAT YOU'RE SEEING
HERE TO THE NORTH.
RIGHT NOW WOULDN'T CALL IT REALLY A DIRT LOT.
MORE OF A COMPACTED CLAY THAT HAS BEEN IN THAT CONDITION FOR
QUITE SOME TIME.
BETWEEN THAT, THE SPACES BEHIND THE BUILDING AND THE EIGHT
NONCONFORMING SPACES THAT FRONT MacDILL AND HAVE FRONTED
MacDILL FOR QUITE SOME TIME, WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH
PARKING.
WE HAVE AS MUCH AS WE NEED FOR ZONING BUT FROM OPERATIONS WE
HAVE FAR MORE PARKING THAN THE FACILITY HAS EVER NEEDED.

THIS IS A NEW ONE.
IT'S NOT A PARKING WAIVER.
IT IS A PAVING WAIVER.
THE CODE WOULD REQUIRE US OTHERWISE TO PAVE THIS PARKING
LOT.
DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
THERE IS A REALLY COOL TREE, GRAND TREE.
VERY HEARTY TREE.
I DON'T THINK ANY DAMAGE AT ALL FROM THE VARIOUS STORMS
WE'VE HAD.
IT WAS THERE LONG BEFORE, BEFORE THE BUILDING WAS THERE AND
WE DON'T WANT TO COVER IT IN ASPHALT.
THE PARKING LOT WILL OCCASIONALLY POOL A LITTLE BIT IF
THERE'S SOME RAIN.
IN OUR VIEW, SOUTH TAMPA, THIS PIECE OF SOUTH TAMPA DOESN'T
NEED MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
THIS IS THE CATEGORY IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO NOT COVER THIS PARKING LOT IN
CEMENT.
ACCESS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL.
NATURALLY HAS A DRIVE-THROUGH WHICH AS YOU ALL PROBABLY
KNOW, DRIVE-THROUGHS ARE PRETTY RARE.
PRETTY VALUABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE TOUGH TO GET NEW ONES.
THE WAY YOU ENTER THE SITE AND AGAIN, GIVEN THAT IT'S A
PRIVATE OR A MEMBERSHIP BASED FACILITY, EVERYONE KNOWS HOW

TO DRIVE IN THIS PLACE BECAUSE THEY ARE PROBABLY ICE CREAM
PATRONS AS WELL.
ONCE YOU'RE IN, YOU CAN GO BACK OUT ON BAY VISTA.
NARROW.
AREAS ON THE DRIVEWAY.
ONCE YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE IN.
THE YELLOW BOXES ARE PARKING.
AGAIN, THERE'S NO PARKING ISSUES.
MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING.
THEN YOU EXIT OUT RIGHT ON MacDILL.
ONCE YOU'RE IN THE FACILITY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET BACK
INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY COMPLAINTS.
PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
WORK AWFULLY HARD TO GET BACK IN THERE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
I'LL ASK MIKE TO SHARE A FEW WORDS ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND AND
WHAT HE WANTS TO DO HERE AND THEN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
6:35:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
6:35:04PM >> MICHAEL EVAN, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS CO-OWNER
OF THE BUSINESS.
BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FOUR YEARS AGO DURING COVID AND I'VE
LIVED OFF MacDILL IN FOUR DIFFERENT HOMES.

ONE WAS TWO BLOCKS AWAY.
NOW I'M IN PALMA CEIA WITH MY FAMILY.
BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I LOVE MacDILL.
IT WAS A UNIQUE SPOT ON MacDILL THAT HAD RETAIL.
HAD ZERO INTEREST IN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE
GOING TO DEVELOP IT.
I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.
NOT IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS.
BUT THIS PROPERTY WAS UNIQUE.
MY FAMILY, WHEN I TALKED TO MY WIFE ABOUT IT, SHE SAID
THAT'S COOL, BUT DON'T EVER LET ANYTHING HAPPEN TO YOGURT
NATURALLY.
THEY WILL ALWAYS STAY, AND THEY PROBABLY VERY MUCH ENJOY THE
LEASE RATE THEY ARE CURRENTLY AT.
THIS IS NOT A MONETARY THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO
ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING WITH THIS BEER AND WINE LICENSE FOR THE
MEMBERS TO ENJOY AT THE GOLF SIMULATOR CLUB.
IT'S MORE SO THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO HAVE A SELTZER OR
BEER WHILE THEY ARE HITTING GOLF BALLS FOR AN HOUR THAT THEY
CAN DO SO.
NOT SEEKING ANYTHING ON THE LIQUOR SIDE BECAUSE I WANT TO
MAKE SURE -- I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF OVERINDULGENCE AND
CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN ANYTHING IN LIFE THAT
CATERS TO IT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.

THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS WHEN WE BOUGHT THE BUILDING AND PUT
IN A SIMULATOR AND IT JUST KIND OF GREW FROM THERE.
AND KIND OF WORD OF MOUTH AND HAS BEEN ENJOYED BY MANY
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF
GOLF ACCESS WITHIN SOUTH TAMPA.
HOPING WE CAN MAKE THE MEMBER EXPERIENCE A LITTLE BIT BETTER
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
6:36:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
NUMBER 8?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- ANYBODY?
MIRANDA?
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU'RE UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 8.
6:36:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FILE NUMBER AB 2-24-11, AN ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2, FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES -- SMALL VENUE (CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY) AND
MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT
CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 3906 SOUTH
MacDILL AVENUE, UNIT 3910, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL

ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED;
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:37:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
6:37:49PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
2024, AT 10 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:38:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. LEAVEN, MY KIDS AND I THANK YOU FOR
PROTECTING YOGURT NATURALLY.
6:38:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LIKE BASKIN-ROBBINS BUT ALL YOGURT.
THEY ALSO MAKE THEIR OWN WAFFLE CONES.
THE GUY WHO STARTED IT SEARCHED THE WHOLE COUNTRY FOR
FLAVORS OF WAFFLE CONES.
IT IS THE BEST WAFFLE CONES YOU'VE HAD IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
[ LAUGHTER ]
6:38:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
GO AHEAD.
6:38:51PM >> LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HERE TO
PRESENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, WHICH IS AB 2-24-13, THIS IS
FOR THE PROPERTY AT 3636 HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,

BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES, PACKAGE SALES
CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES.
6:39:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ARE YOU NEW?
6:39:13PM >> LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
PRETTY NEW.
THIS IS MY FIRST HEARING.
6:39:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WELCOME.
6:39:22PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
THE APPLICANT FOR AB 2-24-13 IS JACK
MURRAY.
THE PROPERTY OWNER IS BRM HENDERSON, LLC.
REQUESTING AB SALES 2,076 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA AND 725
SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA FOR A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF
2801 SQUARE FEET.
AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
THE TOTAL PARKING REQUIRED IS 27 SPACES.
AND THEY ARE PROVIDING 22 SPACES.
THEY ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THIS STANDARD.
I'LL PUT UP AN AERIAL MAP.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED HERE.
THIS IS HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
THIS IS BETWEEN SOUTH HIMES STREET AND STERLING AVENUE AND
SWANN AVENUE IS HERE TO THE NORTH.
THIS IS -- THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED CG.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING FOLLOWS
THIS PATTERN ON HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED.

THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY HAS AN AB SALES APPROVAL WITH
SPECIAL RESTAURANT FOR SALE OF BEER AND WINE.
THIS REQUEST WILL ADD LIQUOR.
THE ABILITY TO SELL LIQUOR.
AND CHANGES THE DESIGNATION TO SMALL VENUE WITH CONSUMPTION
ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY HERE AND THE SUBJECT SITE.
THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN THE OUTDOOR SALES AREA
AND THE INDOOR SALES AREA.
THEY ARE PROVIDING PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING
AND ALSO IN THE REAR WITH ACCESS FROM HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
I ALSO HAVE SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
WHEN I WENT TO TAKE PHOTOS.
THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT SITE OFF OF HENDERSON
BOULEVARD.
BEAUTIFUL SUNNY DAY.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE WEST PARKING LOT.
THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE WEST ELEVATION AND THE PARKING
LOT.
THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING NORTHEAST ON HENDERSON BOULEVARD AND
TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE SURROUNDING AREA IS, THIS
IS A PHOTO OF THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL PATTERN.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THIS

APPLICATION AND FOUND -- SORRY -- AND THEY FOUND THE REQUEST
INCONSISTENT.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO WAIVERS RELATED TO DISTANCE
SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS AND REDUCTION
IN THE PARKING, THE REQUIRED PARKING.
MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED TO BE MADE
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
6:42:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, MA'AM.
6:42:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAD NOTICED AND I TALKED TO MS. JOHNSON
VELEZ ABOUT THIS DURING MY PREP, TOO.
THIS IS A QUESTION POSSIBLY FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT SEEMS TO
BE A LOT THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME APPLICATIONS NOT FOR JUST
EXPANDING TO LIQUOR BUT ALSO PACKAGE SALES.
WILL THIS HAVE A STORE COMPONENT?
6:43:01PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
I WILL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT.
6:43:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
6:43:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
APPLICANT, COME ON UP, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
WERE YOU SWORN IN.
6:43:14PM >> I WAS.
TRUETT GARDNER, NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
TO YOUR QUESTION, IT IS A GOOD ONE AND LITTLE CONFUSING, THE

SMALL VENUE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISNOMER.
NOT A PACKAGE STORE, STILL 51% OF SALES HAVE TO BE FOOD
SALES.
BUT THIS WILL HAVE A SMALL GRAB AND GO MARKET WHERE YOU'LL
BE ABLE TO GET FOOD AND ALSO BOTTLED WINE.
SO THAT'S WHAT TIPS IT OVER TO SMALL VENUE, SMALL VENUE
VERSUS LARGE VENUE I THINK VENUE IS LESS THAN 200 PEOPLE.
SMALL VENUE GREATER THAN THAT IS LARGE VENUE.
HOPE THAT HELPS.
I HAD THE SAME EXACT QUESTION AND WANTED TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF IT.
WE ARE THRILLED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
WE'RE PRESENTING A NEW FRENCH BISTRO CONCEPT BROUGHT TO
TAMPA BY THE SAME GROUP THAT BROUGHT ROCCA TO ARMATURE
WORKS.
THIS IS THEIR CONCEPT.
AS MENTIONED, IT ALREADY HAS ALCOHOL APPROVAL.
THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS A LITTLE BIT OFF.
WE'RE ALSO ADDING SOME OUTDOOR DINING AS WELL TO GIVE IT
THAT BISTRO FEEL.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NOTHING BUT POSITIVE COMMENTS AND ALL OF
THE SOCIALIZATION THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THIS CONCEPT AND DID
WANT TO ADDRESS THE WAIVER.
I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LONG DAY AND LONG NIGHT.
NOT EXPECTING OPPOSITION AT ALL, BUT I DID FEEL IT WAS

IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS THE WAIVERS.
ADDIE WILL RUN THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK AND HAPPY TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
6:44:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
6:44:49PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
ADDIE CLARK, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
LEO DID A GREAT JOB OF SHOWING WHERE YOU THIS SITE IS.
I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS.
I DID WANT TO MENTION IT WAS PREVIOUSLY A LITTLE LEON.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE BUBBLE THERE.
AGAIN, WHAT IS ALLOWED TODAY?
SO ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE HIGHLY TECHNICAL AB PERMIT
FROM 2005.
AS TRUETT SAID, WE ARE UPDATING THIS TO INCLUDE OUTDOOR
SPACE AS WELL AS TO CLEAN UP WITH A MORE ACCURATE SURVEY
THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED SINCE THEN.
HERE, AGAIN, WE ARE DOING A PROPOSED ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE
EXISTING BUILDING.
SO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THEN
ALSO THE EXISTING PARKING LOT.
AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY HERE DUE TO THAT OUTDOOR SEATING AND TO
CORRECT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM BEFORE.
AGAIN, LEO DID A GREAT JOB OF GOING THROUGH WHAT WE'RE
SEEKING TODAY, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR SALES AND THEN THE
SQUARE FOOTAGE WE'RE PROPOSING AS WELL AS OUTDOOR SQUARE

FOOTAGE.
IMPORTANT TO NOTE, TOO, THAT THE PATIO DOES EXIST TODAY.
WE ARE JUST NOW UTILIZING IT FOR OUTDOOR SPACE.
AND GOING INTO THE WAIVERS, SO WE BELIEVE THAT WAIVER NUMBER
ONE ABOUT THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REALLY IS JUST AN EFFECT
OF DOING BUSINESS ON HENDERSON.
AGAIN, THIS WAS AN EXISTING RESTAURANT BEFOREHAND AND THE
LOCATION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, HENDERSON, HAS
BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AS WELL.
AND THEN FOR THE SECOND WAIVER, REGARDING PARKING, WE HAVE
27 SPACES REQUIRED.
ACTUALLY 18 PROVIDED.
THAT WAS JUST ONE CORRECTION WE WANTED TO POINT OUT.
BUT THERE IS SOME NUANCE TO THAT.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT PARKING IS EXISTING AND WE ARE
ACTUALLY -- WE HAVE 18 SPACES ON-SITE IN BLUE SHADED BUT
THEN THERE ARE ACTUALLY SEVEN SHARED SPACES AT THE PROPERTY
RIGHT NEXT DOOR AVAILABLE VIA A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT.
SO WE HAVE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO THE SEVEN SPACES STARTING AT
5 P.M. EACH NIGHT AND NONEXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO THE SEVEN SPACES
24/7.
WE BELIEVE THEN WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF 25 TOTAL
SPACES WHEN THE RESTAURANT IS IN OPERATION.
AND THEN HERE WE GO IS A SNIPPET OF THE SHARED PARKING
AGREEMENT, ESTABLISHING THE RIGHT TO A MINIMUM OF SEVEN

SPACES.
THAT'S GOING INTO THE DISTANCE SEPARATION.
WE KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LONG DAY, SO WE'RE HERE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
6:47:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 9?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
6:47:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE LITTLE LEON, FAVORITE ETHIOPIAN
RESTAURANT.
THAT IS NOW SOUTH OF FOWLER.
THIS IS FILE AB 2-24-13, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES/PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF
PREMISES AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS
OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT
CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 3636 HENDERSON
BOULEVARD AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3
PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005-208,

PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:48:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
6:48:25PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
2024, AT 10:00 A.M. IN THE BEAUTIFUL OLD CITY HALL CITY
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602.
6:48:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM 10.
6:48:48PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 10 IS AB 2-24-15, PROPERTY AT 2234 EAST 7TH AVENUE.
THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY STEVE MICHELINI.
REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE VENUE
CLASSIFICATION, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY FOR THE SALE OF
BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
THIS REQUEST CONTAINS INDOOR AB SALES AREA ONLY.
THERE'S NO OUTDOOR SALES AREA PROPOSED.
THIS WOULD CONTAIN 13,716 SQUARE FEET OF AB SALES AREA.
THE HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
PARKING SPACES REQUIRED ARE 46 AND PARKING SPACES PROVIDED
IS 95 SPACES.

THE USE PROPOSED IS A RESTAURANT WITH A GAME ROOM COMPONENT
WITH THIS CLASSIFICATION.
I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED IN THE RECORD.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT PARCEL.
THIS CORNER LOT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST.
SO THIS IS 22nd STREET.
THIS IS EAST 7TH AVENUE.
THIS IS 23rd STREET.
AND THEN THIS IS ON 8th AVENUE.
SO THIS REQUEST WOULD CONTAIN THIS AREA WHICH IS OUTLINED IN
RED.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SITE IS ACCESSED ON 7th AVENUE.
YOU CAN ACCESS THE SITE HERE TO THE SURFACE PARKING LOCATED
HERE OR YOU CAN ACCESS THROUGH THIS POINT AND HAVE SURFACE
PARKING, 90-DEGREE PARKING THAT'S LOCATED HERE ON-SITE.
I HAVE THE ZONING MAP OF THE AREA.
SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE THAT'S IDENTIFIED HERE OUTLINED
IN RED.
THIS IS 22nd STREET.
THIS IS 8th AVENUE.
AND THIS IS 7th AVENUE.
THIS IS THE STRUCTURE HERE THAT'S UNDER THE AB SALES
REQUEST, THAT'S LOCATED HERE.
AND THIS IS THE CORNER PARCEL WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THAT

BOUNDARY.
BUT YOU CAN SEE IT HAS THE DUAL ZONING, YC 5 AND YC 7
ZONING.
IT IS IN THE, OF COURSE, YBOR CITY SPECIAL DISTRICT.
THERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE TO SHARE.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE.
THAT IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE.
THAT'S ON 7th AVENUE.
THIS SHOWS A PICTURE OF THE SITE AND THE PARKING THAT'S ON
THE WEST SIDE.
THIS IS INTERNAL TO THE SITE TO THE PARKING AREA LOOKING AT
THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW, ALSO GIVES YOU A SHOT ACROSS THE
STREET IN THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S THERE.
THIS IS NORTH.
THIS IS JUST A VIEW LOOKING NORTH AND THAT'S BEHIND THE
SITE.
THIS IS ACROSS EAST 7TH AVENUE.
YOU CAN SEE THE VACANT LOT AND COMMERCIAL THAT'S TO THE
SOUTH.
THIS IS THE SITE ON THE LEFT, THIS IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING EAST
ON 7th AVENUE.
THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE, ANOTHER VIEW, COMMERCIAL.
AND THAT'S THE VIEW LOOKING WEST ON 7th AVENUE.
THAT'S THE SITE THAT IS TO THE WEST.

AND THEN THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
YOU CAN SEE THE VACANT PARKING THAT'S THERE.
THE DRC STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
INCONSISTENT.
IT IS DUE TO THE WAIVER OF THE DISTANCE SEPARATION.
ANYTIME THERE IS A WAIVER REQUESTED TO DISTANCE SEPARATION,
STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
BUT THERE ARE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO
BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING ALSO WITH THIS
REQUEST.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
6:52:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
6:52:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM?
6:52:41PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES
ESTABLISHMENTS.
6:52:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, OKAY.
THANK YOU.
6:52:45PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
FROM 250 TO 60.
6:52:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPLICANT, COME ON UP, SIR.
6:52:57PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
STEVE MICHELINI.
HOLD MY TIME FOR A SECOND.
WHAT I'VE JUST HANDED OVER TO MARTIN SHELBY IS THE SECURITY

REPORT AND THE SOUND ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE CONDUCTED IN
ADVANCE.
THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO MOVE INTO A FULLY RESTORED
HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING.
IT'S COMPLETELY BUILT OUT.
IT'S GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION REVIEWS.
IT'S PASSED ALL OF THE REVIEWS, AND IT HAS ITS CERTIFICATE
OF OCCUPANCY.
WE'VE ADDED, THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL ADDS A COUNTRY AND
WESTERN ELEMENT TO YBOR CITY AS WELL AS A FULL SERVICE
KITCHEN THAT OPERATES THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THE BUILDING AND
THE OPERATIONS ARE OPEN.
THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR A RESTAURANT WHICH REQUIRES
51% FOOD TO 49% ALCOHOL AT ALL TIMES.
AND THE VENUE CANNOT OPERATE WITHOUT THE KITCHEN BEING OPEN.
THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF EXISTING BUILDING WHICH IS LOCATED
HERE.
WE HAVE PROVIDED 95 PARKING SPACES.
AND 46 SPACES ARE REQUIRED.
THIS IS A NEW CONCEPT BEING BROUGHT TO THE TAMPA AREA, AND
IT INVOLVES AN ENTERTAINMENT AREA WHERE MUSIC IS PROVIDED IN
A LIVE FASHION, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND SATURDAY.
BUT THE FACILITIES ARE OPEN TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.
IT IS A FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT.

THE MUSIC VENUE OPERATES, AS I SAID, LIVE MUSIC ON THURSDAY
FRIDAY, SATURDAY.
WE CONDUCTED A SOUND ANALYSIS WHICH YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF
YOU.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THAT WITH YOU.
THE MAIN PA SYSTEM WAS ANALYZED, AND IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE
WITHIN APPROPRIATE LEVELS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
THE ENTRYWAY DOORS, WE DID AN ANALYSIS THERE.
WE ALSO DID ONE FROM ACROSS THE STREET, ALL OF WHICH ARE
CERTIFIED BY A SOUND ENGINEER.
AND YOU HAVE THAT REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU.
WE'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT AS PART OF OUR RECORD.
WE ALSO ENGAGED A SECURITY COMPANY.
WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE
HAD INVOLVED BOTH THE SOUND AND THE SECURITY AND HOW YOU
WERE GOING TO HANDLE THAT.
WE DID HIRE WARDEN SECURITY AND I HAVE RUBEN, THE OWNER AND
DIRECTOR OF THAT AGENCY, TO COME UP AND FILL YOU IN ON ALL
THE MEASURES THAT WERE BEING EMPLOYED THERE.
IN TERMS OF MEETING THE CRITERIA, INGRESS AND EGRESS, DUE
CONSIDERATION HAS TO BE GIVEN FOR THE ADEQUACY OF INGRESS
AND EGRESS.
AND THAT WAS APPROVED PER THE CITY OF TAMPA SITE PLAN FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION AND SITE PLAN AND ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION
ELEMENTS WERE APPROVED.

OFF-STREET PARKING AND LOADING WAS ALSO APPROVED VIA THE
SITE PLAN.
AS I SAID, THAT'S FULLY PERMITTED AND READY TO GO.
REFUSE AND SERVICE AREAS, THAT ALSO WAS APPROVED VIA THE
SITE PLAN.
LIGHTING, THERE'S INSIDE AND OUTSIDE LIGHTING IN THE PARKING
LOT TO ENHANCE THE SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS.
UTILITIES WERE APPROVED AGAIN PER THE BUILDING PLAN AND
SPECIFIED.
THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT WAS
EXISTING BUILDING.
GENERALLY, ADJOINING NEARBY PROPERTIES, THERE ARE NO
ADJOINING PROPERTIES, EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING LOT AND THE
VACANT LOT TO THE NORTH.
THIS IS WITHIN THE URBAN VILLAGE AND WE ARE WITHIN 250 FEET
OF ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT SELLING ALCOHOL.
AND AS STAFF HAS POINTED OUT, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE
WAIVER.
THERE ARE NO OPERATIONAL OR CONSTRUCTION WAIVERS THAT ARE
BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS ONLY AN INSIDE SERVICE AREA.
THERE ARE NO OUTSIDE VENUES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT IN
ANY WAY.
THE REST OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE'VE MET INCLUDE THE USE TO
ENSURE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE AND GENERAL

WELFARE OF OTHERS.
AND IT IS DEVELOPED AND OPERATED ACCORDING TO SITE PLAN, TO
THE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY EXTERIOR CHANGES.
EXISTING BUILDING, AS I SAID, HISTORIC AND WAS FULLY
RESTORED TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE STANDARDS.
THE USE, WHICH IS LISTED AS A SPECIAL USE DISTRICT, IS
PROPOSED AND COMPATIBLE AND THE USE IS SIMILAR TO OTHERS IN
THE AREA, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE NOT OF THIS PARTICULAR CULTURAL
SELECTION.
THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH CONTIGUOUS AND SURROUNDING
PROPERTIES AND THE USE OF THE PUBLIC.
AS I SAID, IT'S VACANT EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING LOT THAT IS
ADJACENT TO IT THAT SERVICES THIS BUILDING AND THE VACANT
LOT TO THE NORTH.
THE USE WILL NOT ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT OR ENCOURAGE MORE
INTENSIVE OR INCOMPATIBLE USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
IT'S NOT MORE INTENSIVE AND IT DOES NOT ESTABLISH ANY USE
THAT WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CITY.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO RUBEN WARRIOR WHO CAN TALK TO
YOU ABOUT THE SECURITY MEASURES THAT WE'VE EMPLOYED.
6:59:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HELLO, SIR.
6:59:09PM >> RUBEN WARRIOR.
6:59:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
6:59:12PM >> YOU KNOW, I WAS ASKED BY SADDLE BAGS TO ASSESS THEIR

SECURITY ASSESSMENT, THEIR SECURITY PLAN, SO I USED TEN
STEPS THROUGH THERE AS I WENT THROUGH THEIR PLAN.
THE FIRST SET OF PLANS WAS OKAY, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SOME
EXTRA ADVANCEMENTS ON THAT.
SO I JUST HAD TO MAKE A FEW CHANGES AND NOW I SUBMITTED THE
REPORT TO YOU GUYS HERE.
6:59:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
6:59:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
ASSESSMENT.
IT LOOKED VERY NICE.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS SADDLE BAGS, YOUR COMPANY, I
GUESS, THIS NEW VENUE, IS RIGHT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM A
RESTAURANT THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
ONE OF THE FINEST IN THE COUNTRY.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO TELL YOU.
THANK YOU.
7:00:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?
YES, MA'AM.
7:00:17PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION ON THE REQUESTED AB
SALES CLASSIFICATION.
SO THE REQUEST IS FOR A VENUE DESIGNATION.

AND I HAVE HEARD MENTION OF REPORTING THIS IS A RESTAURANT.
YOU CAN HAVE THE USE OF A RESTAURANT, BUT THE DESIGNATION OF
VENUE DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO REPORT ANNUALLY.
THE ONLY WAY THE ESTABLISHMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REPORT
ANNUALLY IS BY ADDING A CONDITION AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL.
SO IF THAT IS THE DESIRE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE HEARING, IF YOU
WOULD MAKE THAT DIRECTION THAT THAT CONDITION BE ADDED TO
THE SITE PLAN.
OTHERWISE, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO REPORT ANNUALLY.
7:00:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:01:01PM >> AS THE APPLICANT, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THAT CONDITION BE
PLACED ON THE SITE PLAN.
IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION TO AVOID THAT.
WE INTENDED ALL ALONG FOR THE RESTAURANT TO BE FULLY
OPERATIONAL, WE WERE THE DOORS WERE OPEN AND PATRONS WERE
THERE.
AS I SAID, WE ENGAGED A SECURITY CONSULTANT BECAUSE THAT
COMMENT CAME UP AS PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND THE
SOUND AND ALSO THE SECURITY ELEMENT.
WE ARE REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S IN AN URBAN VILLAGE IN YBOR
CITY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE SOUND ATTENUATION STUDY, BUT WE
ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PLACE THE SECURITY PLAN WITH YOU.
BUT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADD THOSE TO THE SITE PLAN AS A
CONDITION AS WELL.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S A NEW CONCEPT, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN MEASURES
TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS NOT OFFENSIVE AND/OR CREATE ANY
ADVERSE IMPACT TO ANY SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER.
7:02:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
I HAVE SOME REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE.
IS FRAN CONSTANTINO ONLINE?
IS CHRISTINA JOHNSON ONLINE?
DID YOU SWEAR THEM IN OR DO WE NEED TO SWEAR THEM IN?
FRAN AND CHRISTINA, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS, RAISE YOUR
RIGHT HAND, AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
FRAN, TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
ALL RIGHT.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, FRAN, AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU
IN.
GO AHEAD.
7:02:51PM >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
TRUTH?
7:02:58PM >> YES.
7:03:02PM >> YES.
7:03:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FRAN CONSTANTINO IS THE FIRST SPEAKER
FOLLOWED BY CHRISTINA JOHNSON.
STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

7:03:14PM >> FRAN CONSTANTINO.
APPRECIATE IT.
I WOULD BE THERE WITH YOU TONIGHT BUT I'M NURSING TWO
FRACTURED RIBS.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME APPEARING VIRTUALLY.
I BEG YOUR FORGIVENESS.
I SENT AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY.
LIKE TO READ A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS IN THE RECORD.
THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS WITH US BEFORE AND
THOSE OF YOU WHO WILL LEARN OF THE ISSUES THAT HISTORIC EAST
YBOR CITY HAS BEEN THROUGH FOR YEARS WITH SHOOTINGS, FIGHTS,
CROWD NOISE, UNDERAGE DRINKING, ILLEGAL PARKING, DEBRIS, PUT
ON YOUR SEAT BELTS BECAUSE HERE WE GO AGAIN IF THIS
APPLICATION IS APPROVED.
WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THE ABOVE WITH MUCH SMALLER
VENUES SUCH AS CLUB MANILA, PATRON AND THE BROADWAY BAR.
SADDLE BAGS YBOR IS A LARGER VENUE AND ADVERTISES ITSELF AS
ULTIMATE YBOR CITY DESTINATION WITH HOURS THAT ARE TOTALLY
ACCEPTABLE.
I THINK THEY ORIGINALLY PRESENTED SEVEN DAYS A WEEK UNTIL 3
IN THE MORNING.
I UNDERSTAND THEY MODIFIED TO THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY
UNTIL 2.
AT ONE MEETING THE REPRESENTATIVE STATED THEY WOULD BRING IN
TOP NAME COUNTRY BANDS THAT WILL START AT 10:30 IN THE

EVENING, WHICH IS ABOUT WHEN THE RESIDENTS ARE PLANNING TO
RETIRE FOR THE EVENING.
WHY WASTE MORE TPD TIME AND RESOURCES WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY
STRETCHED ACROSS SOHO AND THE REST OF THE CITY?
AS IT IS, ESTABLISHMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF YBOR CITY
WEREN'T ABLE TO GET ENOUGH OFF-DUTY OFFICERS TO SIGN UP OR
VOLUNTEER AS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE.
SADDLE BAGS STATED THEY WILL HAVE TOP-NOTCH SECURITY ON-SITE
WITH NO POWER TO MAKE ARREST IF NECESSARY.
SO WHAT'S THE POINT?
IF THEY STILL NEED TPD RESOURCES IF ANYTHING ERUPTS.
CITY INSTALLED PAY BY PLATE ON THE EAST SIDE OF 7th
AVENUE.
THAT CAN ONLY MEAN THAT THE PATRONS WILL BE PARKING IN THE
RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, OUR PROPERTY.
THE PROOF OF THAT IS WHEN THERE ARE NIGHT PARADES AND
NEIGHBORHOOD GET-TOGETHERS, INUNDATED WITH PEOPLE AVOIDING
PAID PARKING, THEREFORE DRINKING, RELIEVING THEMSELVES AND
THROWING TRASH ALL OVER OUR YARDS.
THIS MUST BE STOPPED, PERIOD.
THERE ARE MANY MORE INCOME PRODUCING BUSINESSES THAT CAN GO
THERE OTHER THAN A DRUNK RIDING A MECHANICAL BULL UNTIL TWO
OR THREE IN THE MORNING AND THEN DRIVING THROUGH
NEIGHBORHOODS, BLARING MUSIC AS THEY EXIT.
I AM OBVIOUSLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THEY ARE USING A FORMULA THAT FOR 95 PARKING SPACES FOR 803
PEOPLE VISITING THIS VENUE.
I DON'T KNOW, THAT MAY WORK ON THE WEST SIDE OF YBOR BECAUSE
THERE ARE PARKING GARAGES AND PARKING LOTS, BUT FOR THE WEST
SIDE, THERE'S NO PLACE TO GO THERE.
AND THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO HAVE 50 EMPLOYEES.
WHERE ARE THOSE EMPLOYEES GOING TO PARK?
IN THE 95 PARKING SPACES OR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD?
THERE IS A ROOFTOP BAR BUT THEY ARE NOT ENCROACHING INTO OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN I EXTENDED THE HISTORIC DISTRICT -- FROM THE COLUMBIA
TO 26th STREET, WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS IN MIND.
IT WAS ALL TO KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN REJECTING THIS.
THANK YOU.
7:06:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHRISTINA JOHNSON, YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER.
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
7:06:38PM >> HELLO.
I'M CHRISTINA JOHNSON.
2407 EAST 10th AVENUE.
I LIVE THREE BLOCKS BEHIND THE VENUE.
I ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING FOR ALL INTENTS AND

PURPOSES, THE LAYOUT AND LIMITED MENU, THE WAY IT IS SET UP,
IT IS A CLUB.
IT IS A COUNTRY CLUB, BUT STILL A CLUB.
IT IS A CLUB THAT HAS VENUES, MUSIC BANDS PLAYING BEGINNING
AT 10:00, I THINK.
IT'S A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'VE NOT -- I MEAN,
HAVE ANOTHER CLUB IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO RIGHT
DOWN THE STREET FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY BAR DOESN'T MAKE A LOT
OF SENSE.
THE PARKING IS A HUGE ISSUE.
I MEAN, WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK?
WE KNOW WE'LL END UP WITH DAMAGED FENCES, DAMAGE TO
PROPERTIES, DRUNKS HAVING FIGHTS AND BRAWLS IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE STREET.
PEOPLE THROWING THEIR GLASS CONTAINERS OUT ONTO THE STREETS.
HAVE A VENUE THAT STARTS THAT LATE FOR MUSIC IS CLEARLY NOT
A RESTAURANT.
IT'S GOT LIKE FIVE THINGS ON THE MENU.
FIVE FRIED THINGS ON THE MENU.
THE NOISE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE.
OF COURSE, I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE SLEEP.
WE HAVE TO SLEEP.
WE CAN STILL ALREADY HEAR SOME OF THE NOISE FROM 7th
AVENUE PROPER THAT COMES THROUGH ON CERTAIN WINDY DAYS,
COMES RIGHT THROUGH OUR HOUSES AS IT IS.

AND THIS IS RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
I HOPE YOU VOTE NO ON THIS.
THANK YOU.
7:08:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM?
PLEASE COME UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
7:09:09PM >> HI.
MY NAME IS DENISE SANSUR.
I'M IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL TODAY, I WANT TO FIRST THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
JUST TO SPEAK ON THE CONCERNS THAT MANY OF US HAVE FOR
SADDLE BAGS COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD MR. MICHELINI SPEAK, BUT I
NEVER HEARD ANY REFERENCE ABOUT THE RESIDENTS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS ESTABLISHMENT WOULD BE WITHIN 50 SQUARE FEET OF THE
FIRST HOME AND SO TO THE OTHER SPEAKER'S POINT IS THAT WE
WILL BE AFFECTED BY NOISE AND PARKING.
AND FOR A VENUE OF THIS SIZE, 1300 SQUARE FEET WITH A
CAPACITY OF 800 PERSONS, YOU KNOW, AND A STAFF OF 50, WHERE
ARE THE STAFF GOING TO PARK?

WHERE ARE 803 PEOPLE GOING TO PARK?
WE THAT LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE AFFECTED BY WHEN
THERE ARE PARADES.
THEY DO COME AND PARK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THERE IS THE NOISE.
THERE IS THE TRASH.
THERE ARE THE FIGHTING.
SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS ESTABLISHMENT ITSELF FOR AS LONG AS WE
KNOW HAS ALWAYS BEEN OVER A HUNDRED YEARS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN A
RETAIL OR A FURNITURE STORE.
IT NEVER HAD ANY LIQUOR SOLD ON THE PREMISES.
WE WANT TO KEEP THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF YBOR CITY.
FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN ON THE APPLICATION, THEY HAVE ONLY
APPLIED FOR A WAIVER FROM DISTANCE FROM OTHER BUSINESS
ESTABLISHMENTS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL
THAT THEY ARE NOT WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE SPACES --
APPROPRIATE DISTANCE.
THE PAPER THAT I PASSED OFF TO YOU, THIS IS ALL THE
NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES THAT SURROUND SADDLE BAGS.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, THEY ALL CLOSE BY 10 P.M.
WE'RE NOT EXACTLY AGAINST THE PROPOSED VENUE, BUT IF THEY
WOULD ADHERE TO A BETTER TIME WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO
DISRUPT THE RESIDENTS, THEN MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
CAN WORK WITH.

BUT AS IT IS NOW, IF YOU START A VENUE AT 10 P.M., IT'S NOT
GOING TO REALLY GO ON UNTIL 11:00, THAT MEANS WE'LL HAVE
SPILLAGE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS UNTIL 2 AND 3 A.M. IN THE
MORNING.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM HERE, THERE'S PLENTY OF RESIDENTS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL BE AFFECTED.
MY OTHER CONCERN IS THAT THEY WILL NOT MEET THE 51% OF FOOD
SALES.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR MENU, IT'S FRIED FOOD.
THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT THAT CLOSES AT 10 HAS BETTER FOOD.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT.
IT IS ON THEIR APPLICATION AS A RESTAURANT CLUB, NOT AS A
RESTAURANT.
IN ENDING, IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT, THEN PLEASE
TREAT THEM AS SUCH.
THANK YOU.
AND I YIELD MY TIME.
7:12:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
7:12:11PM >> GOOD EVENING.
JOSE CAYON, I LIVE ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM IT.
I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER TEN YEARS.
IN REGARDS TO SADDLE BAGS, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT

THE ESTABLISHMENT WHEN I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT IT, I REACHED
OUT TO THE LANDLORD AND ASKED WHAT THIS BUSINESS IS ALL
ABOUT AND THEY MENTIONED IT WAS A RESTAURANT.
WE ALL GOT EXCITED.
WE NEEDED RESTAURANTS.
BUT COMING TO FIND OUT AFTER A WHILE, AFTER FINDING SOME
NEWS ON THE WEBSITE AND THEN LOOKING INTO THE APPLICATION
THAT THIS WAS BEING REFERRED AS A RESTAURANT CLUB COUNTRY
STYLE, THEN 13,000 SQUARE FEET LIKE SAID BEFORE, 800
CAPACITY.
I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, EAST YBOR HAS A POPULATION OF 600.
600 PEOPLE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE MENTIONED TODAY IN A PREVIOUS ITEM
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, COTTAGES, BUT
MOSTLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES FOR A HUNDRED YEARS.
NOW WE CAN'T EVEN GET A GROCERY STORE.
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-- CAN'T STOP THEM FROM HAVING CONCERTS OR HAVING EVENTS,
ANY DAY OF THE WEEK IN THE EVENING.
SO BASICALLY EVERY EVENING WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO ENJOY OUR
HOMES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALMOST A THOUSAND PEOPLE CLOGGING
OUR STREETS.
WHEN WE HAVE PARADES IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH
GETTING EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DESIGNED FOR BUGGIES AND HORSES.
THE STREETS ARE VERY NARROW.
WE DON'T HAVE DRIVEWAYS, DON'T HAVE GARAGES FOR THE MOST
PART.
WE ALREADY STRUGGLE WITH PARKING.
IT MAY NOT BE -- THEY ARE PROVIDING 90 PARKING SPACES.
THEY HAVE 50 EMPLOYEES.
WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK?
THIS IS TOTALLY FOR ME THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LOVE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE HISTORICALLY WITH THE BUILDING,
BUT THIS BUILDING HAS ALWAYS BEEN RETAIL AND THAT WAS THE
EXPECTATION WHEN IT WAS RENOVATED.
RETAIL.
NOT A LARGE CONCERT VENUE THAT WAS SOLD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AS A RESTAURANT.
NOT A RESTAURANT THIS SIZE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE LOVE THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT, BUT THESE ARE
AMAZING NEIGHBORS.
THESE PEOPLE -- YOU GO TO CASA AND YOU SEE NEIGHBORS.
THEY CLOSE AT 10 P.M.
THEY ARE NOT A NUISANCE BY NO MEANS.
BUT, HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK I CAN BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
ESTABLISHMENT.
I THINK THIS IS A DETRIMENT TO OUR LIVES AND WE ALREADY

FOUGHT FOR YEARS TO GET -- SLEEPLESS NIGHTS, COUNTLESS
SLEEPLESS NIGHTS.
I'M ASKING YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION.
THANK YOU.
7:15:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
7:15:24PM >> GOOD EVENING.
KIMBERLY McCRAY.
NOT TO SOUND REPETITIVE TO WHAT MY NEIGHBORS SAID, BUT I
WOULD LIKE TO SAY I LIVED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 30 YEARS.
AND WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF POSITIVE CHANGES, BUT IF
SADDLEBAGS IS GOING TO BE OPEN UNTIL 2 A.M., AROUND 10:30
SELLING ALCOHOL IS NOT A RESTAURANT IN MY OPINION.
WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF POSITIVE CHANGES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD,
YOU KNOW.
WE HAVE ALL SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE BROADWAY, WITH MANILA, AND WE KNOW THAT
THE SEQUELS ARE ALWAYS WORSE.
THANK YOU.
07:16:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MEAN, A COUPLE OF GOOD SEQUELS.
GOOD EVENING.
07:16:11PM >> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS FRANK DE LA GRANA, FOURTH GENERATION YBOR CITY
NATIVE, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM OF
SADDLEBAGS.
I HEAR EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WORRIED ABOUT THE CHANGES THEY WILL BRING ON
THAT SIDE OF 7th AVENUE.
HAVING GROWN UP IN YBOR CITY, I HAVE SEEN PLACES COME AND
GO.
WHAT BROUGHT ME HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM BUYING
SADDLEBAGS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THROUGH THE BUILDING.
TO SEE THE ROBINSON BUILDING BEFORE THE RENOVATIONS AND SEE
WHAT THE TEAM DID WITH IT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY SPARED NO EXPENSE IN THE BUILD OUT.
THEY COMPLIED WITH ALL THE CITY'S REQUESTS.
THEY HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND KNOWING THAT THEY WILL FACE
ADVERSITY WITH GETTING THIS ZONING CHANGE.
THEY EXPECT IT, BUT THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING NECESSARY TO
COMPLY.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS IS A VERY CRUCIAL DECISION FOR
THEM.
I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW THEM BECAUSE OF SOME WORK I HAVE DONE
IN YBOR CITY.
AND AS I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW THIS TEAM, THEY HAVE VOICED TO
ME THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR FRUSTRATION TRYING TO COMPLY
WITH THE CITY'S REQUEST.
THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATION.
AND I LIVED IN YBOR CITY FOR CLOSE TO FIVE YEARS, AND I CAN
TELL THAT YOU IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PLACE FOR PEACE AND
QUIET, IT IS NOT THE PLACE.
THE ROOSTERS CHASE ME OUT OF THERE.
I CAN'T BLAME THE CLUBS.
I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT IF YOU -- IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
TO WALK THROUGH THIS PLACE, IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
LOOK AT THEIR KITCHEN, THIS ISN'T A PLACE THAT IS JUST
LOOKING TO SELL ALCOHOL AND HAVE SHEET MUSIC.
THESE PEOPLE DESERVE A CHANCE.
I KNOW THAT THEY WILL COMPLY WITH ANY REQUEST THAT THE CITY
ASKS THEM TO DO.
AND I JUST THINK IT IS FAIR GIVEN THE INVESTMENT THEY MADE
IN OUR CITY AND ALL THE JOBS THEY ARE WILLING TO BRING.
AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT CHANCE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
07:18:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
07:18:17PM >> HE IS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
07:18:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
ANYBODY ELSE?
IF NOT, WE WILL GO TO REBUTTAL.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:18:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT BUILDING THERE WAS -- MANY, MANY
YEARS NOT ONE SOLID BUILDING BUT DIVIDED INTO A WESTERN PART
-- THE SMALLER PART WAS FLORIDA DRUGS, WHICH WAS A DRUG
STORE.
THE FELLA WHO RAN IT, THE PHARMACIST WAS NAMED ROY VALDEZ.
DOWN THE STREET WAS METROPOLITAN DRUGS AND THAT WAS ALSO
THERE.
THEY ARE BOTH GONE, AND I REMEMBER IT LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY.
THANK YOU.
07:18:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
07:18:51PM >> HE CAN SPEAK, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T EAT UP ALL
MY REBUTTAL TIME.
07:18:56PM >> MY NAME IS RANDOLPH GOSYNE.
I AM PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT IS BRINGING SADDLEBAGS TO
YBOR CITY.
WE STARTED THIS PROJECT THREE YEARS AGO.
AND WE -- OUR FIRST STEPS WERE TO INVITE THE NEIGHBORS TO
COME AND TALK TO US.
WE SENT E-MAILS OUT.
AND NO ONE CAME AND SPOKE US TO ABOUT ANYTHING.
AND WHEN WE HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THEY TOLD US THE
REASON WHY THEY COULDN'T COME IS THEY WERE GOING THROUGH
SOME CHANGES AND THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT.
HOWEVER, WE WENT AHEAD WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND WE -- TO BE HONEST YOU WITH GUYS, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF
HAVING TO APPLY FOR A WET ZONE PERMIT.
WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS UNTIL MARCH.
WE STARTED THIS PROJECT THREE YEARS AGO.
WE SPENT $2.5 MILLION TO BUILD OUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF
THE HISTORICAL REQUIREMENTS AND HOW MUCH STUFF WE HAD TO PUT
IN THE BUILDING.
OUR CONCEPT IS BASICALLY, WE ARE A FULL RESTAURANT.
NOT A FIVE ITEM MENU.
WE HAVE 25 ITEMS ON THE MENU.
WE HIRED A CHEF.
THIS IS A FULL-BLOWN RESTAURANT OPERATING TUESDAY THROUGH
SUNDAY.
WE ONLY CLOSE ONE DAY A WEEK WHICH IS MONDAY.
THEY ARE A MUSIC VENUE SITE.
WE WILL ONLY HAVE MUSIC ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY BETWEEN THE
HOURS OF 8 P.M. AND 2 A.M.
THURSDAY, WE ARE OFFERING WHAT IS CALLED LINE DANCING
LESSONS THAT WILL START AROUND 8:00 AT NIGHT.
IT WILL FINISH ROUGHLY AROUND MIDNIGHT.
AND THE RESTAURANT -- EVERYTHING WILL CLOSE UP ON THURSDAY
BETWEEN 12 AND 1 A.M.
THE ONLY TWO DAYS WE ARE GOING TO 2 A.M. IS FRIDAY AND
SATURDAY.
WE ARE HIRING AROUND 50 PEOPLE, BUT IT ONLY REQUIRES 25
PEOPLE ON THE OPERATIONS NIGHT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU
ARE RUNNING A RESTAURANT, YOU CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE WORKING
12-HOUR SHIFTS.
IT WILL START MORNING SHIFT, EVENING SHIFT, AND VOLUME SHIFT.
TO CLARIFY WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH
ANY CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM.
WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A CHANCE.
AND SEE HOW WE ARE GOING TO OPERATE.
OUR OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO -- WE PLAN TO CLEAN UP OUR AREAS
WHEN WE CLOSE, THE PARKING LOTS, THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR GUYS OUT THERE GOING AROUND AND
PICKING UP ALL THE TRASH.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW CUPS TO LEAVE THE CLUB OR THE BAR.
THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LEAVE WITH DRINKS.
IT IS A NARROW -- WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO-GO DRINKS.
NOBODY SHOULD BE LEAVING OUR AREA WITH DRINKS AND STUFF.
SO IT SHOULDN'T CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH LITTERING.
THANK YOU, ALL.
APPRECIATE IT.
07:21:50PM >> YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE NEIGHBORS MENTIONED
ARE NOT PART OF THE APPLICATION THAT WE SUBMITTED.
WE HAVE MET OR EXCEEDED EVERY REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY HAS.
THE CALCULATION BASED ON OCCUPANCY IS ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
BECAUSE THERE IS A DANCE FLOOR INSIDE, THE NUMBERS GO WAY
UP, BUT YOU COULDN'T PUT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THERE IF YOU
WANTED TO.
THEY BE STANDING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
THIS IS ALL INSIDE.
THERE IS NO OUTSIDE.
I SHOWED YOU AND I PROVIDED YOU WITH THE SOUND ANALYSIS,
WHICH WAS DONE WITH LIVE MUSIC.
SO THERE IS NO OUTSIDE MUSIC.
AT THE STREET SIDE, IT IS 47 DECIBELS ACCORDING TO THE
REPORT OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
THAT IS WELL WITHIN THE CITY PARAMETERS.
AND THE SECURITY IS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE, SO THE PARKING AREAS
ARE SECURE.
AND THEY ARE WELL LIGHTED.
AS FAR AS THE TRASH AND NOISE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
ELSE TO TELL YOU, THEY POLICE IT.
THEY HAVE PEOPLE.
THEY HAVE STAFF OUTSIDE THAT ARE SECURITY, AND WE WILL MAKE
SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
IT IS NOT RELATED TO -- IT IS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
SO THERE ARE A VARIETY OF USES THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED
THERE.
AND THE RESTAURANT IS AS JOHNNY JUST TOLD YOU IS GOING TO
OPERATE COMPLETELY.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN TO SHOW YOU THE
DECIBEL LEVEL WITH -- WITH THE CONTROLS THAT ARE APPLIED TO
THE -- TO THE SOUND SYSTEM INSIDE.
AND ALL OF THE SOUND IS CONTROLLED BY A MASTER COMPUTER AND
SET SO THAT IT CAN NOT EXCEED ANY OF THE APPROPRIATE LEVELS
ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
SOMEONE LIVING THREE BLOCKS AWAY AND TWO BLOCKS AWAY AND
SAYING THEY ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED WHEN THE NOISE ISN'T
EVEN OUTSIDE.
THE CAR NOISES AND THE MOTORCYCLE NOISES AND THE TRUCK
NOISES EXCEED ANYTHING THAT COULD BE GENERATED INSIDE.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE AVOIDED ANYTHING OUTSIDE WAS TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTIRE AREA WAS CONTAINED.
IT WAS CONTAINED FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY, AS WELL AS FOR
NOISE ATTENUATION.
AND ANY POSSIBLE EFFECT ON ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, WE NOTIFIED EVERYBODY.
WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
THEY MENTIONED SECURITY.
THEY MENTIONED NOISE.
AND WE ADDRESSED IT.
NOBODY CAME BACK TO US FOLLOWING THAT AND SAID, HEY, I GOT A
PROBLEM BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THE USE OR WE DON'T LIKE WHAT
TYPE OF FOOD YOU ARE SERVING.
THAT IS NOT THE CRITERIA FOR CONSIDERATION HERE.
WE HAVE MET OR EXCEEDED EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED IN THE
CITY -- IN THE CITY CODE.
AND THEN WE ALSO ENGAGED SECURITY ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE MET THAT AND ADDRESSED THAT UP FRONT, NOT SOMETHING THAT
WE SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT CAME HERE AND
SAID, OH, IT WAS AN AFTERTHOUGHT, WE NEED TO HAVE TIME To
ENGAGE A SECURITY ANALYST.
WE DID IT EARLY.
AND A WELL-RESPECTED FIRM.
THEIR REPORT, YOU HAVE IT THERE.
WE WILL BE HAPPY TO MAKE IT PART OF THE RECORD THAT THE
SOUND ANALYSIS.
HAPPY TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE RECORD.
AND, AGAIN, WE ARE REQUESTING THE RESTRICTION OF 51/49.
SO WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT IT REMAINED A RESTAURANT AND THAT
THE KITCHEN REMAINED OPEN AND FULLY OPERATIONAL ANY TIME
THAT THE DOOR WAS OPEN FOR PATRONS.
I DON'T -- YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS PER
OCCUPANCY.
WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
THE CITY APPLIES THEIR OWN FORMULA TO THAT.
WE MET THE CODE ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
NO WAIVER REQUESTED FOR THAT THE ONLY WAIVER BETWEEN US AND
ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT SELLING ALCOHOL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN AVOID THAT IN YBOR CITY.
WE ARE ON 7th AVENUE BETWEEN 7th AND 8th AVENUE.
EVERY ESTABLISHMENT IN YBOR CITY IS BETWEEN 7th AND 8th AND
THE RAILROAD TRACKS GOING TO THE SOUTH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU AVOID THOSE ISSUES.
I THINK WE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING THAT THE STAFF HAS REQUESTED
US.
WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE THAT, AS WELL AS MEETING THE CODE.
AGAIN, THE DISTANCE SEPARATION, I CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
THE BUILDINGS ARE THERE.
WE DIDN'T BUILD A NEW PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
THESE FOLKS HAVE COME IN.
THEY HAVE PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS TO TRY TO
MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING AND ANY ADVERSE IMPACT WAS
ATTENUATED, UP FRONT, AND NOT AFTER THE FACT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
07:26:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
07:26:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DID.
SO THE OWNERSHIP GROUP, ARE THEY THE ONES THAT RENOVATED THE
EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AS WELL?
07:26:57PM >> THAT WAS PART OF THEM AND, ALSO, THE PROPERTY OWNER,
DARRYL SHAW.
07:27:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
AND QUESTION.
BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERN IS -- NEIGHBORHOOD BEING
BIT BY SOME OF THE PREVIOUS ESTABLISHMENTS.
WILL THERE BE AN ISSUE OF HAVING A SITE PLAN RESTRICTION OF
1 A.M. INSTEAD OF 2 P.M. AND LESS LIKE A CLUB?
07:27:21PM >> WHERE DID YOU GO, JOHNNY?
07:27:29PM >> ONE OF THE REASONS WE CHOSE 2 A.M. BECAUSE I THINK IN
YBOR, THE BARS STAY OPEN UNTIL 3:00.
WE CHOSE AN HOUR EARLIER.
AND ALSO, SOME OF THE MUSIC BANDS THAT WE CAN GET AND BRING,
SOME OF THE UP AND COMING, SOME OF THE NATIONAL GUYS, THEY
LIKE TO HAVE A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO PLAY AND STUFF.
SO WE CHOSE 2 A.M.
POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN CLOSE EARLIER, WE JUST CAN'T PREDICT
HOW IT IS GOING TO GO.
07:28:04PM >> ASKING FOR A COMMITMENT OF 1 A.M.
07:28:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL FLY UP HERE, BUT
I THINK THE SENSITIVITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TURNING
INTO MORE OF A CLUB TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE OPPOSED TO A VENUE
TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE.
WHEN YOU HAVE -- BY NATURE WHEN YOU HAVE A 1 A.M., YOU ARE
LESS LIKELY TO GET THE CLUB TYPE OF PEOPLE LOOKING TO PARTY
ALL NIGHT AND THEY START CLEARING OUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER
AND GOING.
AS FAR AS YOU ARE ENCROACHING.
THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT THAT SUBJECT UP.
07:28:35PM >> I MEAN, IF IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, WE WILL
CONSIDER IT, YES.
07:28:42PM >> HE ASKING FOR A COMMITMENT.
YOU EITHER HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO.
07:28:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A SITE PLAN COMMITMENT.
07:28:52PM >> YOU COULD COME BACK AND REVISIT THAT IN THE FUTURE IF YOU
PROVED YOURSELF AT 1 A.M.
07:29:03PM >> OKAY, I MEAN, YEAH, WE CAN COMMIT TO CLOSING AT 1 A.M. IF
IT APPEASES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:29:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I BELIEVE -- AGAIN, THAT LENDS ITSELF TO A
DIFFERENT TYPE OF FEELING AND VIBE OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY WHO
STAYS OPEN TO 2 OR EVEN 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
BY RIGHT, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE COMMITMENT FOR 2 A.M., BUT
BEFORE THEN 3.
AND BECAUSE WHAT YOU REQUESTED --
07:29:29PM >> ALL THE BARS IN YBOR CLOSES AT 3:
00.
07:29:32PM >> THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID THAT ENCROACHMENT AND
THAT TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE.
WE ARE TRYING TO PULL THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
I APPRECIATE THAT OF YOUR INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, OF COURSE, THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, THE INVESTMENT OF
THIS BUILDING.
I THINK WE HAD PRECEDENT UP HERE.
BECAUSE WE -- ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 7th ON THE WEST SIDE OF
7th, WE APPROVED ALCOHOL SALES AND AN OUTSIDE PATIO VENUE
RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.
WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST IN THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
I VOTED AGAINST THAT.
07:30:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WITH THAT COMMITMENT OF 1 A.M., I CAN
SUPPORT THAT.
THE OTHER ONE WE GOT THEM TO SHUT AT 10 OR
11.
07:30:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WAS 1.
1 A.M.
07:30:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAYBE TALKING OF A DIFFERENT ONE.
07:30:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:30:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOR ME KNOWING WHAT IS SURROUNDING IT.
WHAT SURROUND SOMETHING ARE RESTAURANTS.
AND PASSING 22nd STREET IS KIND OF THE DIVIDING LINE FOR ME
AND NOTHING ELSE CLOSES AFTER 10.
BEST I WOULD BE WILLING TO GO IS 11:00.
I AM NOT OKAY WITH 1 A.M.
THIS IS NOT THE CLUB PART OF YBOR, SO I CAN'T SUPPORT
ANYTHING THAT -- THAT WOULD BE GREATER THAN 11 P.M.
07:31:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
07:31:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT SAYING I LIKE IT OR DISLIKE IT,
BUT I AM THINKING HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU PUT $2.5 MILLION
INTO SOMETHING WHEN YOU DIDN'T GET AN APPLICATION FOR A
RESTAURANT AND BAR BUT BEFORE YOU SPENT THE MONEY.
07:31:21PM >> LIKE I SAID, WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE WEREN'T AWARE
OF THE WHOLE PROCESS WITH THE WET ZONING.
WE WENT TO THE ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO OFFICE.
AND WE ASKED THEM WHAT IS THE CRITERIA BEFORE WE DID
ANYTHING.
AND THEY TOLD -- NOBODY -- NOBODY MENTIONED US TO ABOUT WET
ZONING UNTIL MARCH, WE GOT AN E-MAIL FROM A FELLOW CLUB
OWNER DOWN THE STREET.
HE SENT US AN E-MAIL AND TOLD US, HEY, DID YOU GET A WET
ZONING.
THAT IS WHEN WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
WE WEREN'T AWARE OF IT, TO BE HONEST.
IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE, BUT WE -- I MEAN, OUR REALTORS, OUR
LANDLORD, NOBODY MENTIONED TO US ANYTHING ABOUT US.
IF THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF CRITERIA, ARCHITECTURE COULD HAVE
BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
NOBODY BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION UNTIL MARCH, AND THAT IS
WHEN WE APPLIED.
07:32:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE?
IF NOT, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE.
07:32:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE --
07:32:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST REAL FAST.
WE HAD DISCUSSIONS OF NOT ALLOWING CONCENTRATIONS OF
ALCOHOL.
I AM GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE STRICT ABOUT THE 250 RULE
AND NOT APPROVE AS MANY OF THEM, AT LEAST PAST 11:00.
07:32:57PM >> COUNCILMAN, THE REASON WE RESTRICTED TO -- COUNCILMAN,
THE REASON FOR THE 51/49 RESTRICTION SO IT WOULDN'T BE PER
SIDE AS AN EXTENSION OF A BAR AND CLUB.
THAT WILL BE STRICTLY ENFORCED.
07:33:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW IS IT ENFORCED?
07:33:15PM >> GOING ON THE SITE PLAN.
07:33:18PM >> 51% FOOD SALES AND 49% ALCOHOL SALES.
07:33:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU KNEW THAT BEFORE?
07:33:32PM >> ALCOHOL LICENSE, WHEN YOU READ THE CRITERIA FOR THE TYPE
OF LICENSE, IT TELLS YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO SELL 51% FOOD AND
49% ALCOHOL.
07:33:42PM >> FROM THE BEGINNING HE SAID HE NEVER ANTICIPATED IT BEING
A STRAIGHT 4-COP.
07:33:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND
HOW SOMEBODY PUTS $2.5 MILLION IN A BUILDING AND CAN'T FIND
OUT WHAT TO DO.
07:33:58PM >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, WHEN THEY CALLED ME, I ADVISED THEM --
07:34:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR.
IF WE VOTE ON THIS, THE SITE PLAN IS GOING TO REFLECT THE
51/49 AND THE 1 A.M. CLOSING TIME.
07:34:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MISS DOCK, IS THAT CORRECT?
07:34:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT NEED CLARIFICATION
ON THE RECORD, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
NUMBER ONE, THE NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED.
IN ADDITION TO THE SITE PLAN REVISIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT,
THE ADDITIONAL CHANGES ARE TO ADD A NOTE THAT THE
ESTABLISHMENT WILL PROVIDE ANNUAL REPORTING.
WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RESTAURANT DESIGNATION.
07:34:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY I INQUIRE ABOUT THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY REMOVED THE REPORTING
REQUIREMENT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER SPECIAL USE PERMITS THAT HAVE REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS STILL ON THEIR SITE PLAN?
07:34:52PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THAT REPORTING REQUIREMENT HAS NOT BEEN
REMOVED.
07:34:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO THEY STILL HAVE TO DO ANNUAL REPORT
SOMETHING IN.
07:34:59PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, ABSOLUTELY.
07:35:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
07:35:03PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
OUR DESIGNATION WITH ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES
AND OLD WET ZONING IS A CONDITION OF THEIR APPROVAL.
THEY MUST REPORT ANNUALLY.
07:35:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
07:35:14PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THAT NOTE WILL NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE SITE
PLAN.
DEVELOPER IS PROVIDED TO MAINTAIN A SECURITY PLAN.
THAT LANGUAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE.
I WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED AT FIRST READING.
ANOTHER NOTE TO BE ADDED TO THE PLAN AND THE CONDITION.
THE OTHER IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO STATE WHAT ARE THE HOURS
OF OPERATION.
BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD DISCUSSION OF DIFFERENT HOURS AND
CLOSING TIMES.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO STATE NOW ON THE RECORD WHAT THEIR
HOURS ARE.
AND THOSE HOURS CAN ONLY BE AMENDED BY NEW APPLICATION AND
GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN.
YOU CAN NOT AMEND THE HOURS ADMINISTRATIVELY, JUST SO THE
APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS.
07:36:00PM >> WE ARE REQUESTING THE 1 A.M. CLOSING TIME FOR ALL OF THE
DAYS OF THEIR OPERATION.
AND ONE THING --
07:36:07PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
WHAT DAYS ARE THOSE, PLEASE.
07:36:09PM >> ONLY TWO DAYS THAT WE ARE GOING TO STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.
IS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
THURSDAY WE PROBABLY CLOSE AROUND MIDNIGHT BECAUSE IT IS
LINE DANCING LESSONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THE RESTAURANT IS OPERATING FROM 11 A.M. UNTIL 11 P.M. AND
THE NIGHT THAT WE STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M., THE RESTAURANT
WILL STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.
07:36:38PM >> SO THE RESTAURANT -- THE RESTAURANT AND THE BUILDING WILL
BE OPEN ON --
07:36:47PM >> TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AT 11 A.M. AND CLOSE AT 11
P.M. THE OTHER TWO NIGHTS THAT WE STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.,
THE RESTAURANT WILL STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.
07:36:59PM >> THAT WILL BE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
07:37:00PM >> FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
BASICALLY THE RESTAURANT WILL CLOSE AT 11 P.M. UNLESS WE ARE
STAYING OPEN ON THE MUSIC SIDE UNTIL 1 A.M.
IT WILL ALSO STAY OPEN TO THAT TIME.
07:37:12PM >> LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR.
TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY ARE OPEN UNTIL -- THEY CLOSE AT 11:00.
THE KITCHEN WILL BE OPEN UNTIL 11:00.
WEDNESDAY.
07:37:25PM >> AT 11.
07:37:27PM >> TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, 11.
AND THURSDAY.
07:37:31PM >> THURSDAY -- LET'S SAY THURSDAY 1 A.M. AS WELL, BECAUSE
JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
07:37:36PM >> SO THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY WE ARE REQUESTING 1 A.M.
07:37:40PM >> SUNDAY 11 A.M. TO 4 P.M. IT IS A BRUNCH.
WE ARE JUST DOING BRUNCH ON SUNDAYS.
WE CREATED, LIKE, A FAMILY-STYLE BRUNCH.
FUN WITH GAMES AND STUFF.
07:37:54PM >> ONE OTHER THING WE NEED TO ADD IS THIS ONLY APPLIES TO
THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.
AND NOT THE SECOND FLOOR.
IT IS A TWO-STORY BUILDING.
SO WILL BE RESTRICTED TO THE FIRST FLOOR ONLY.
07:38:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MONDAYS ARE CLOSED.
07:38:09PM >> MONDAY IS CLOSED, YES.
07:38:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF MISS
DOCK?
07:38:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
WITH REGARDS TO MONDAY, WHAT WILL BE ON THE SITE PLAN?
07:38:25PM >> CLOSED MONDAY.
07:38:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
TO NOT, ASK THE CLERK --
07:38:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MISS DOCK, REPEAT THAT BACK.
07:38:33PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.
THE CLOSING TIME IS 11 P.M. ON THURSDAY THE CLOSING TIME IS
1 A.M.
ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, THE CLOSING TIME IS 1 A.M.
07:38:46PM >> SUNDAY IS 4 P.M.
07:38:47PM >> SUNDAY IS 4 P.M.
07:38:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
SUNDAY, YOU WANT TO CLOSE AT 4 P.M.
YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT OPERATE BEYOND 4 P.M. ON SUNDAY.
07:38:56PM >> THAT IS BRUNCH ON SUNDAYS.
07:39:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YOU ALSO CANNOT CHANGE IT ADMINISTRATIVELY.
07:39:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GIVE A LITTLE ASSISTANCE.
07:39:06PM >> OKAY, LET'S DO 11 P.M.
07:39:13PM >> JUST TO BE CONSISTENT.
07:39:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE.
07:39:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
07:39:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
A SECOND TO CLOSE?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ HAD THIS.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
07:39:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL READ IT.
07:39:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:39:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEFORE WE DO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR
THE SAKE OF THE RECORD, THERE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATIONS THAT
HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO CITY COUNCIL.
EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.
NO VERBAL COMMUNICATION WITH ANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I SEE NOBODY RESPONDING AFFIRMATIVELY.
COULD THERE BE A RECEIVE AND FILE FOR THE WRITTEN DOCUMENTS.
07:40:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
GO AHEAD.
07:40:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FILE NUMBER AB 24-15, LARGE VENUE
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE MAKING LAWFUL OF THE SALE OF
BEVERAGES, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN, LOT, PLOT
OR TRACT OF LAND EAST 7th AVENUE PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCE AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED.
PROVIDED AN EFFECTIVE DATE WITH SITE PLAN CHANGES BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:40:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
IS THERE A SECOND?
THE MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:40:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I KNOW THAT -- I KNOW THAT -- BUT I WOULD
MAKE A MOTION TO STAY OPEN UNTIL 11:00 EACH NIGHT.
I KNOW THAT IS NOT WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS, BUT IF IT GETS
REJECTED COMPLETELY, HE IS STUCK WITH THIS INVESTMENT
WITHOUT NO LICENSE.
07:41:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, AND I WILL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION
TO THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS CASE AND ALL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SPECIAL USES, 27-129, THE GENERAL STANDARDS.
THAT IS YOUR CRITERIA, ONE THROUGH FIVE THAT YOU ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO DECIDE OF COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
ALSO WITH REGARD TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CARSON STATED, IF YOU
LOOK AT -- IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 4, SUBSECTIONS B, NUMBER 7,
CONTROL OF POTENTIALLY ADVERSE EFFECTS GENERALLY AND IN
ADDITION TO CONSIDERATION OF DETAILED ELEMENTS INDICATED
ABOVE IS APPROPRIATE TO THE APPROPRIATE CLASS OR KIND OF
SPECIAL USE AND TECH CASE, DUE CONSIDERATION SHALL BE GIVEN
TO POTENTIALLY ADVERSE EFFECTS GENERALLY ON ADJOINING AND
NEARBY PROPERTY, THE AREA, THE CITY OR THE USE OR OCCUPANCY
WITH THE LOCATION, DESIGN, CHARACTER, SCALE OR MANNER OF
OPERATION.
WHERE SUCH POTENTIALLY SUCH ADVERSE EFFECTS WILL BE FOUND,
CONSIDERATION FOR SPECIAL REMEDIAL MEASURES APPROPRIATE IN
THE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CASE INCLUDING
SCREENING, BUFFERING, LANDSCAPING, CONTROL OF MANNER OR
HOURS OF OPERATION, ALTERCATION OF DESIGN OF CONSTRUCTION OF
BUILDINGS RELOCATION, ETC., ETC.
IF THAT IS SOMETHING -- IF YOU WISH TO REOPEN THE HEARING,
MAKE INQUIRY AND SEE WHAT THE -- WHAT THE APPLICANT WISHES
TO DO.
JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL -- AND FORGIVE ME THAT I DIDN'T DO
THIS AT THE BEGINNING. BUT WE DID MENTION THIS THE LAST
REGULAR MEETING.
PER COUNCIL RULES, NO REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE SHALL BE
GRANTED AT A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING AFTER THE PETITIONER
COMPLETED THEIR PRESENTATION UNLESS DETERMINED BY CITY
COUNCIL IT IS NECESSARY FOR PURPOSES OF PROCEDURAL.
07:43:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL SECOND THE MOTION TO REOPEN.
07:43:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN.
07:43:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE HEARING IS REOPENED.
07:43:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I KNOW IT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I WOULD
SUPPORT A MOTION UNTIL 11 P.M., WHICH IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
07:43:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE ANY THOUGHT ON THAT, COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
07:43:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH, I AM GLAD COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID THAT.
I WAS THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES.
AND MAYBE IF YOU GUYS NEED -- IF YOU DON'T THINK PUBLICLY,
SO TO SPEAK.
BUT A DECISION TO MAYBE STEP OUTSIDE FOR TEN MINUTES AND WE
CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
JUST A THOUGHT.
07:44:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:44:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO SAY THE NATURE OF THIS TYPE OF A
VENUE.
THEY HAVE A RESTAURANT AND A CONCERT VENUE.
IF THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE PERFORMANCES, I DON'T KNOW OF
ANYBODY THAT CAN CLOSE DOWN A PERFORMANCE BY 11 P.M. YOU
CAN'T GO DOWN TO THE STRAZ AND CLOSE DOWN --
07:44:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FRANKIE VALLI.
07:44:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH, FRANKIE VALLI.
PROHIBITIVELY EARLY FOR A CONCERT VENUE.
07:44:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE PROBLEM JUST SO THE APPLICANT KNOWS THIS
GOES WITH THE LAND.
AND SO YOU MAY BE A GREAT OPERATOR, THE PROBLEM IS THAT
SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT COME IN AND DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT SO
GREAT.
AND WE HAVE TO THINK AHEAD OF THE ENTITLEMENT.
07:44:45PM >> I THINK THE RESTRICTION FOR THE 51/49 WEIGHS HEAVY ON ANY
ESTABLISHMENT NOT BECOMING SOMETHING THAT IS OBNOXIOUS.
YOU KNOW IT IS A SELF-IMPOSED REQUEST FOR THAT RESTRICTION.
SO PERHAPS CONSIDER THAT FOR THOSE OTHER NIGHTS,
PARTICULARLY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT, IS THERE ANY
CONSIDERATION FOR A LITTLE BIT LATER TIME ON THOSE MEETS?
07:45:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:45:16PM >> 11:
30.
07:45:20PM >> OUR BUSINESS HINGES ON THE -- THE RENT IN YBOR IS SUPER
HIGH.
I MEAN, IT'S 50K A MONTH.
AND OVERHEAD CLOSING AT 11 P.M. IS GOING TO BE -- WE ARE
GOING TO JUST BE THERE BREAKING EVEN EVERY MONTH.
AND IT IS GOING TO BE HARD TO HAVE -- NOT BE ABLE TO HIRE
THE BANDS TO PLAY ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND MAKE A LITTLE
EXTRA MONEY.
BUT JUST TO MEET OUR BUSINESS GOALS, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO
CLOSE AT 11 P.M. EVERY NIGHT.
07:46:01PM >> WHEN IS THE EARLIEST YOU CAN SURVIVE AT?
07:46:06PM >> 1 A.M. IS LIKE -- I MEAN, WE -- WE COMPROMISED TWO HOURS
OFF THE NORMAL TIME OF EVERY OTHER ESTABLISHMENT IN YBOR.
I KNOW EVERYBODY IS SAYING LIKE WE ARE ON THE DIFFERENT SIDE
OF YBOR, BUT FLEX IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM US.
RIGHT NEXT TO COLUMBIA IS A BAR NAMED FLEX.
AND THEY STAY OPEN UNTIL 3:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW.
SO I -- I AM NOT TRYING TO BRING EVERYTHING DRASTICALLY
DIFFERENT TO THAT AREA.
07:46:37PM >> THE REASON WE WENT TO THE REAL LENGTHS OF HIRING A SOUND
ANALYST AND A SECURITY FIRM SO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO
ADVERSE IMPACTS.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE WHATEVER CONSIDERATION YOU CAN GIVE US
FOR A LITTLE BIT LATER ON THE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
07:46:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:46:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
COMMUNITY IS TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
NOISE.
THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY TALKING OF NOISE FROM THE
ESTABLISHMENT.
THEY ARE TALKING OF NOISE WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE THE
ESTABLISHMENT.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE FROM PARKING LOT AND FROM
WALKING TO THE CARS.
THAT IS PART OF THE ISSUE.
THIS PART OF YBOR.
THIS PART OF 7th AVENUE DOES NOT HAVE CLUBS.
WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE REST OF YBOR.
IF YOU HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING
TO PULL BACK ON CLUBS ON 7th AVENUE IN YBOR.
SO I AM NOT SURE WHERE YOU COME HERE AND THINK THAT WE ARE
GOING TO BE OKAY WITH THE 1 A.M. CLOSING WHEN EVEN IN THE
REST OF YBOR WE ARE STARTING TO PULL BACK ON THAT.
I AM SORRY FOR THE INVESTMENT, BUT THAT'S NOT -- THAT IS NOT
MY ISSUE.
MY ISSUE HERE IS EVERYTHING ELSE SURROUNDING IT CLOSES AT 10
P.M.
AND I THINK 11:00 IS GENEROUS.
AND THAT IS WHAT I AM WILLING TO DO.
I AM NOT WILLING TO GO ANY FURTHER, AND THAT IS JUST ME.
OTHERS MAY FEEL DIFFERENTLY.
AND I'M TRYING TO BE IN THE -- IN THE MINORITY, BUT I AM NOT
-- I AM NOT GOING TO ENTERTAIN ANYTHING MORE THAN 11 P.M.
07:48:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY.
07:48:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I THINK WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID JUST AS
SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO OBJECT OR RAISE OR EXPRESS CONCERN
ABOUT IS THAT WHAT SHE DID WAS IN THE RECORD
EXPLAINED THE PURPOSE OF THE CONDITION THAT YOU ARE WILLING
TO PLACE.
AND THE BASIS AND COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE BASED ON
EVIDENCE YOU HEARD IN THE RECORD.
WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU IS FINE.
THAT IS WELL AND GOOD, BUT TO CONTINUE TO -- I DON'T WANT TO
SAY HORSE -- TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.
I DON'T WANT THIS THE RAISE OF THE EXACTION OF SOMETHING
THAT I WAS COERCED INTO IT.
THERE IS EITHER AN AGREEMENT AND CONSENT OR NOT.
07:49:07PM >> COUNCIL, COULD YOU JUST GIVE US TEN MINUTES TO GO OUTSIDE
AND CONFER, PLEASE.
07:49:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS FOR FIVE
MINUTES, COME BACK, AND THEN -- WHEN YOU ARE READY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:04:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE --
08:04:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT A MINUTE.
08:04:38PM >>CLERK:
CARLSON.
08:04:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
08:04:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
08:04:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
08:04:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HERE.
08:04:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
08:04:46PM >>CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
08:04:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HAVE YOU COME TO AN AGREEMENT OR
CONCLUSION?
08:04:54PM >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO OPEN MONDAY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE
COSTS.
SO MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 11 A.M. TO 11 P.M., WE WANT TO
KNOW IF WE CAN DO FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AT MIDNIGHT AND SUNDAY
11 P.M. AND WE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THEY ARE FOLLOWING SUPPORT US IF WE CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT ON
FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND SHE CAN COME UP HERE AND SAY
SOMETHING.
08:05:24PM >> CAN THEY COME UP TO SPEAK AT LEAST CONFIRM THAT WE HAD
THAT DISCUSSION.
08:05:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE ASK THEM TO SPEAK?
08:05:36PM >> THE HEARING IS STILL OPEN.
08:05:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A FEW SECONDS EACH.
YOU ARE SPEAKING IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY.
08:05:41PM >> WE ARE HERE SPEAKING FOR OUR BEHALF.
JOSEN CAYON AND NOT REPRESENTING THE ASSOCIATION.
I AM THE TREASURER AND THIS IS THE SECRETARY, BUT WE ARE NOT
REPRESENTING THE SOCIAL DISTANCING.
THIS IS -- THAT IS WHY WE NEVER MENTIONED IT.
08:05:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
08:05:59PM >> AS AN INDIVIDUAL, THE RESTAURANT IS ALL WE WANT.
WE -- I -- MIDNIGHT I PROBABLY WOULD AGREE IF, YOU KNOW.
I ALSO FEEL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND EVERYTHING, SO -- ON
FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
BUT THIS IS YOUR DECISION, NOT OURS.
08:06:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT YOU LIVE THERE.
08:06:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST SO --
08:06:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ASK ANOTHER LADY TO SPEAK.
08:06:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SOMEBODY ELSE.
08:06:26PM >> DENISE SANSOR.
WHILE I -- AS I SAID BEFORE, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE
BUSINESS AND JUST THE HOURS.
WE WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
SO I AM FOLLOWING WORK WITH THEM.
11:00 DURING THE WEEK IS FINE.
FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS UNTIL MIDNIGHT.
I AM OKAY WITH, BUT I WILL GIVE IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
SO YOU CAN DECIDE.
08:06:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
08:06:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL.
THIS FIRST READING AND COME BACK WITH SECOND READING AND
PUBLIC HEARING AT WHICH TIME YOU CAN TAKE ADDITIONAL
TESTIMONY IF NECESSARY.
08:07:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA
AND SECONDED FROM CLENDENIN.
08:07:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, READ IT WITH THE
NEW HOURS ON THE SITE PLAN.
08:07:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AB-24-15.
CORRECT?
ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A SPECIAL
USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES LARGE VENUE
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE ONLY MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
BEVERAGES OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT
OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED 2234 EAST 7th AVENUE TAMPA FLORIDA
AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 PROVIDING ALL
ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT ARE REPEALED
REGARDING A EFFECTIVE DATE WITH THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS
AND HOURS OF OPERATION AS THE APPLICANT HAS JUST STATED.
08:07:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:07:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
08:07:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
08:08:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
08:08:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
08:08:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
08:08:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
08:08:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
08:08:08PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD DECEMBER 19, 2024
AT 10 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR,
TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602.
08:08:24PM >> COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND WE
APPRECIATE THE TIME AND ALLOWING US TO WORK THIS OUT.
THANK YOU.
08:08:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SEVEN MORE CASES.
ITEM NUMBER 11.
08:08:34PM >>LEO DeBARDELEBEN:
GOOD EVENING, LEO DeBARDELEBEN, LAND
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, AB2-24-30, THE PROPERTY AT 2506 SOUTH
MacDILL.
REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALE, SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE
AND LIQUOR.
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE.
PACKAGE SALES, CONSUMPTION ASSUMPTION OFF PREMISE.
REQUESTING AB SALES IN 7061 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA AND
467 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA FOR A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF
7528 SQUARE FEET.
AB HOURS -- THE AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER
14.
TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING IS 06 SPACES AND 28 SPACES REQUIRED
FOR THE SITE.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A WAIVER TO THAT STANDARD.
I HAVE THE AERIAL ZONING MAP ON THE SCREEN HERE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
THIS IS ON SOUTH MacDILL BETWEEN WEST SAN JOSE STREET TO THE
NORTH AND WEST PALMYRA AVENUE TO THE SOUTH THIS IS SOUTH
MacDILL.
OTHER COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONED SITES HERE.
THE APPLICANT HAS AN AB SALES APPROVAL FOR SMALL VENUE WITH
THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND
PACKAGE SALES.
THE REQUEST WILL ALLOW THE ABILITY TO SELL LIQUOR FOR THE
RESTAURANT USE.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY HERE.
THIS IS THE BUILDING HERE.
IT HAS OTHER COMMERCIAL USES CURRENTLY AND YOU CAN SEE THE
PROPOSED AND CURRENT AB SALES AREA AND THE PARKING TO THE
WEST.
I HAVE PICTURES ALSO TO SHOW.
THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE.
SOUTH MacDILL.
THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH OF THE
BUILDING.
HERE IS A PHOTO LOOKING NORTH ON SOUTH MacDILL.
THIS IS A LOOKING SOUTH ON MacDILL.
HERE IS A PICTURE FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE ARE OTHER COMMERCIAL USES AND ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE --
OF THE COMMERCIAL USES ACROSS THE STREET.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION, AND FOUND THE APPLICATION INCONSISTENT WITH THE
CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
THIS -- THERE IS ONE WAIVER THAT WAS REQUESTED RELATING TO
THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
08:11:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
APPLICANT, COME ON UP.
08:12:04PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
COLIN RICE, WITH THE FIRM OF LUNDY.
MR. BINGHAM IS BEHIND ME.
THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING HERE SINCE 2010.
I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF TONIGHT.
I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY.
BUT IN SHORT, WE ARE SEEKING TO ADD LIQUOR SALES TO AN
ESTABLISHED RESTAURANT SPACE.
AGAIN ESTABLISHED IN 2010.
LAST MODIFIED IN 2012.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NO PACKAGE LIQUOR -- NO
PACKAGED LIQUOR IS PROPOSED.
CURRENTLY PACKAGED WINE HAPPENING THAT IS PROPOSED TO
CONTINUE BUT IN A SLIGHTLY MODIFIED WAY WHICH I WILL SHOW
YOU SHORTLY.
SO TO ORIENT YOU, WE ARE IN SOUTH TAMPA AS LEO HAD DEPICTED.
ON SOUTH MacDILL NORTH OF BAY TO BAY.
SO THIS IS DUE NORTH HERE.
AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
YOU SEE THE ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CENTER, THE PARKING AREA,
AND MacDILL HERE.
SO ZOOMING IN ON THE SITE PLAN, I HAVE ADDED RED LABELS TO
SHOW WHAT WE ARE WITH.
A BIT OF A UNIQUE SITE.
EVERYTHING HERE IS A WET ZONE.
PHARMACY.
NOT SERVING ALCOHOL AND INCLUDED IN THE PRIOR WET ZONING.
NOTHING OF THEIR USE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO CHANGE.
THEY ARE NOT SERVING.
WE HAVE THE CREW'S CELLAR RESTAURANT SPACE WITH INDOOR AND
OUTSIDE AREA.
WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING -- I AM SURE COUNCIL CAN APPRECIATE
THERE ARE MANY ALCOHOL APPROVALS AND STATE AND LOCAL HAVE TO
BE COMPATIBLE.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.
PROPOSING TO ADD LIQUOR SERVICE FOR RESTAURANT PATE REASON
TOS -- AGAIN, NOT PACKAGE, EASE SLATED RETAIL COMPONENT TO
THIS CORNER WHICH IS 300 SQUARE FEET.
THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THE APPROPRIATE STATE APPROVAL.
WE ARE NOT ADDING ONE INCH OF SALES AREA.
TO SPEAK TO THE WAIVERS, THERE WERE FOUR -- EXCUSE ME -- LET
ME MAKE SURE I AM NOT MISSPEAKING, FOUR PRIOR APPROVED
WAIVERS.
WAIVERS ARE IDENTICAL EXCEPT THAT BECAUSE IT BECAME SO
POPULAR AND EVERYBODY WANTED TO MOVE IN THIS AREA.
THE BT RESTAURANT ACROSS THE STREET.
THE SAME WAIVER, DISTANCE SEPARATION OF AB ESTABLISHMENTS
AND A RESTAURANT THAT IS CLOSER.
THAT IS NOW 75 FEET INSTEAD OF 187 FEET.
WE HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
THIS IS WAY BACK IN JULY.
THIS WAS DUE TO THE HURRICANE AS I AM SURE A NUMBER OF
APPLICATIONS TONIGHT WERE -- WE HEARD FROM NOBODY WITH ANY
COMMENTS, OPPOSITION OR OTHERWISE, SO WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE
HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED AND THIS IS A MINOR FIX.
AND AN UPDATE GIVEN MARKET CONDITIONS AND CONSUMER TASTES TO
REFLECT THE NEEDS FOR 2024 AND BEYOND.
SO TO CONCLUDE, YOU KNOW CREW'S CELLAR IS A COMMUNITY
ANCHOR.
THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS.
A MINOR TWEAKING SO PEOPLE ENJOYING THE RESTAURANT HAVE A
BROADER ARRAY OF BEVERAGE OPTIONS CRUCIAL TO THE
SURVIVABILITY TO THE VERY LOW MARGIN INDUSTRIES.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT FEATURE TO HELP OUR FRIENDS PROLIFERATE
INTO THE FUTURE.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND REQUEST
YOUR APPROVAL TIME.
08:16:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM?
08:16:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE HOW YOU ARE
NARROWING THE FOCUS OF THE SALES AREA.
BECAUSE THIS RUNS WITH THE LAND.
IF GIVES US LESS CONCERN ABOUT THIS BECOMING A PACKAGE STORE
IN THE FUTURE.
I HOPE OTHERS LISTEN TO THAT.
THANKS.
08:16:29PM >> THANK YOU.
08:16:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 11?
I SEE NO ONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS.
08:16:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE NUMBER AB 2-24-30.
ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SU-2, FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, PACKAGE SALES ON-PREMISE AND BEER,
WINE AND LIQUOR AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT
OF LAND LOCATED AT 2506 SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES
AND PART OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED.
REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2012-63 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
08:17:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
08:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
08:17:36PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA
BEING ABSENT.
SECOND HEARING DECEMBER 19, 10 A.M., 301 E. KENNEDY, THIRD
FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602.
08:17:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12.
08:17:51PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 12, AB2-24-12 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1020 WEST BUSCH
BOULEVARD.
REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE
CLASSIFICATION FOR THE SALE OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR
CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE ONLY.
LOCATION CONTAINS INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AREA.
THIS SUITE IS PART OF A STRIP CENTER.
AND I WILL SHOW YOU IN JUST A MOMENT IN THE PHOTOS.
BUT THE AB SALES AREA FOR INDOORS WILL BE 3381 SQUARE FEET
ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE SECOND
FLOOR FOR A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 4010 -- THE 4010 SECOND
DOOR OUTDOOR.
OUTDOOR ON THE SECOND LEVEL AND INDOOR FIRST AND SECOND
LEVEL.
TOTAL AB AREA IS 10,272 SQUARE FEET.
HOURS -- THE AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER.
A TOTAL OF 16 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 56 PACES ARE PROVIDED.
I WILL SHOW YOU WITH THE AERIAL NEXT TO LOCATION.
THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME OF THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES DID
NOT OWN THE PARCEL.
THIS THE PROPERTY ON THE AERIAL MAP OUTLINED IN RED.
BUSCH BOULEVARD.
THIS IS N. BOULEVARD.
THIS IS CHAMBERLAIN.
THIS IS THE LOCATION.
THE APPLICANT MIDWAY THROUGH THIS PROCESS OBTAINED OWNERSHIP
OF THIS LOT.
THIS LOT HAS A COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING ON IT.
SO THE APPLICANT IS ALREADY RECEIVED A PERMIT.
ALREADY FOR PARKING.
THEY ALREADY HAVE A PERMIT FOR PARKING ON THIS LOT.
THIS WAS ALREADY IN PROCESS SO THE OPTIONS WERE TO DELAY THE
ALCOHOLIC REQUEST TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF THE PARKING IN
THIS QR OR TO MOVE FORWARD AND REQUEST A WAIVER ALTHOUGH THE
WAIVER IS NOT AS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE APPROVALS
ALREADY FOR THIS AS A PARKING LOT.
STAFF SUPPORTS THE WAIVER THAT IS REQUESTED BUT YOU CAN SEE
THE CG ZONING ALONG BUSCH BOULEVARD FOR THE SITE ITSELF AND
I WILL SHOW YOU PHOTOS.
THIS IS A PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY AND A BAR
ESTABLISHMENT AT THIS LOCATION.
I HAVE THE SITE PLAN TO SHOW YOU WHAT WAS SUBMITTED IN THE
RECORD.
THIS IS BUSCH BOULEVARD.
ENTRY TO THE SITE IS ON BUSCH.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE THAT EXTENDED PARKING
AREA.
THE ADDITIONAL PARCEL THAT THE OWNER OBTAINED.
SO YOU HAVE PARKING THAT IS IN THE FRONT.
THIS IS A STRIP CENTER.
THERE ARE OTHER SHOPS ON THE FIRST LEVEL OF THIS AREA, BUT
THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF THE AB SALES FOOTPRINT.
THIS PORTION WITHIN THIS AREA WOULD BE INDOOR SALES, FIRST
AND SECOND FLOOR.
ON THIS PORTION, THIS IS THE OUTDOOR SALES FOR SECOND FLOOR
ONLY.
THESE ARE THE SITE.
OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED AT THE END OF THIS
BUILDING.
THIS IS THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR INDOOR, AND THAT IS THE
FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR OUTDOOR AREA.
THIS IS A CLOSE-UP OF THE SITE.
THIS SHOWS YOU THE ENTRY TO THE EXTENDED PARCEL.
ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT PARCEL WHICH IS FOR PARKING.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON BUSCH.
THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET NORTH OF THE SITE.
THIS IS FURTHER DOWN NORTH OF THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET AND
A VIEW LOOKING WEST ON BUSCH.
DRC STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND IT INCONSISTENT DUE
TO THE WAIVERS REQUESTED AND THEN, AGAIN, STAFF SUPPORTS THE
WAIVER FOR THE PARKING REDUCTION.
AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
08:22:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
08:22:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU.
08:22:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.
08:22:23PM >> TANIA GARCIA TORRES.
GOOD EVENING.
08:22:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD EVENING.
08:22:27PM >> HOW ARE YOU.
I AM THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING AND THE OWNER OF THE
PROPERTY.
WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS PROJECT FOR THREE YEARS NOW, MY HUSBAND
AND I, AND WE ARE DOING A VENUE FOR FESTIVE PARTIES AND FOR
GRADUATIONS.
WE HAVE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR FOR THE OVERFLOW
PARKING.
WE HAVE OTHER TENANTS IN THE BUILDING, BUT THEY ARE A BEAUTY
SALON AND TATTOO PLACE THAT THEY DO CLOSE BY 7:00, 7:30.
WE WILL USE THE RESTAURANT, LIKE I SAID, IN A LOUNGE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU WANT ME TO SAY, EXCUSE ME.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS FOR TWO YEARS, MY
HUSBAND AND I.
AND JUST A FAMILY-ORIENTED.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
08:23:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:23:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU HAVE PLANS OF WHAT TIME YOU WOULD
CLOSE THE OUTDOOR PATIO?
08:23:27PM >> YES, MA'AM, WE ARE THINKING OF JUST MONDAY IS NOT OPEN.
TUESDAYS THROUGH THURSDAY DOING IT UNTIL 11:00.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS PROBABLY DO UNTIL
2:00.
NO MORE THAN THAT.
WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO DO VERY -- LIKE I SAID, IF WE DO A
PARTY, IT WOULD ALSO BE ANY TYPE OF GRADUATION PARTY.
ANY TYPE OF REUNIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE HAD CHAMBERLAIN SCHOOL APPROACH US TO DO CERTAIN
THINGS FOR THEM THERE.
AND ALSO THE REALTOR COMPANY NEXT DOOR DOES WANT TO DO ALSO
MEETINGS THERE.
AND THINGS THERE IN THE EVENINGS, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY MORE
THAN 2 A.M. ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, MAN.
08:24:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM NOT TALKING OF THE INTERIOR.
I AM TALKING FOR THE EXTERIOR.
08:24:18PM >> THE OUTDOOR -- WE DO LIVE MUSIC.
IT WOULD BE INSIDE.
WE DO PLAN ON DOING LIVE MUSIC, BUT A BAR, LOUNGE THING.
NOTHING PRIOR TO ME -- LIKE THE CLIENT BEFORE ME.
08:24:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH, LIKE, A CONDITION
THAT SAYS THAT THERE WOULD BE NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC OUTDOORS
SAY AFTER MIDNIGHT?
08:24:46PM >> I WOULD CONSIDER THAT, YES, MA'AM, I WOULD, YES.
08:24:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM JUST THINKING OF THE RESIDENTS BEHIND
YOU.
08:24:51PM >> THE RAILROAD IS BEHIND ME.
I DON'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTS.
THE RAILROAD IS BEHIND ME AND ALL COMMERCIAL IS AROUND ME.
08:25:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN I AM ON A DIFFERENT -- GENERALLY I THINK
OF THOSE THINGS BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE.
08:25:07PM >> THE TRAIN IS PRETTY LOUD AS IT IS, MAN.
IT'S OKAY, MA'AM.
I UNDERSTAND.
08:25:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
COME UP AND, YES, SIR.
YES, MA'AM.
08:25:24PM >> MY NAME IS JENNETTE YATES.
MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE TWO BUILDINGS JUST WEST OF THIS
VENUE.
AND I WANT TO CORRECT THAT WE HAVE THE RAILROAD DIRECTLY
BEHIND US.
BUT ACROSS THE RAILROAD, ALL KINDS OF RESIDENTIAL.
WHEN THEY WERE SPEAKING OF AN OUTDOOR VENUE, THAT MEANS A
ROOFTOP THAT THEY PUT ON THE TOP OF THEIR BUILDING.
IT BLARES -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS PERMITTED -- I DON'T
KNOW IF IT IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO HAVE A ROOFTOP, BUT THE
MUSIC BLARES.
AND I HAVE A REAL ESTATE OFFICE THAT HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS
FOR 48 YEARS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
I HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN SATURDAY, SUNDAYS, EVENINGS WHERE WE
ARE DOING BUSINESS.
I OBJECT ALREADY TO THE -- I THINK THAT WITH THE CHAMBERLAIN
HIGH SCHOOL BEING LESS THAN A BLOCK AWAY.
YOU GOT KIDS OUT -- ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO THERE WAS A
STUDENT KILLED RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR OFFICES.
THEY WALK.
AND I BELIEVE IT IS HAZARDOUS.
IT IS MORE HAZARDOUS WITH PEOPLE COMING OUT BEING DRUNK.
THEY ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
THIS IS MOSTLY BUSINESS AREA.
BUSCH BOULEVARD IS ALREADY HEAVILY TRAVELED.
AND I THINK THIS WILL JUST MAKE IT EVEN MORE HAZARDOUS.
OUR BUILDINGS ARE SEVEN FEET APART. WE FOUND BOTTLES, BEER
BOTTLE ON OUR ROOF.
THE ROOFS ARE SEVEN FEET APART.
AND THE MORE ALCOHOL THEY DRINK, THE WORSE IT IS GOING TO
GET.
I OBJECT TO HAVING THE BEER BOTTLES THROWN ON TO MY ROOF.
I QUESTION THE PARKING.
EVEN WITH THAT SMALL LOT, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT.
IN THE PAST, WHEN THEY HAD AN EVENT, THEY FILLED UP BOTH THE
PARKING AT MY BUILDING AND MY BUILDING NEXT DOOR, OKAY.
THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT PARKING THERE TO HAVE A BIG PARTY.
I AM GOING TO LET MY HUSBAND SPEAK.
AND SEE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
BUT I OBJECT TO ALCOHOL BEING SOLD AT THIS VENUE.
08:28:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
PLEASE COME UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:28:05PM >> CARL YATES.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, POINTS THAT EVEN
THIS EVENING I AM PICKING UP DEBRIS FROM THEIR ROOFTOP
VENUE.
YOU KNOW IT IS -- IT WASN'T PUT TOGETHER VERY WELL
STRUCTURALLY, SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT.
I CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT I HAVE PICKING UP THINGS THROWN FROM
THEIR ROOFTOP OVER ON OUR ROOFTOP AND IN BETWEEN THE
BUILDINGS.
AND IT IS -- IT IS AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE
SOMETIMES THAT HANG OUT IN THERE AS WELL.
AND -- SO IT KIND OF DREW A DIFFERENT CROWD TO THAT AREA.
BUT HAVING THE HIGH SCHOOL CLOSE BY IS ALSO A CONCERN TO ME
TOO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
08:28:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
IF NOT, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
ANY REBUTTAL?
08:29:08PM >> YES, SIR.
I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN REGARDING THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND I THINK THAT IS MORE THAN 1,000 FEET AWAY OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT, I THINK.
AND I -- I REALLY NEVER SEEN ANYONE WALK THAT WAY.
REGARDING THEM SAYING WE HAVE THROWN THINGS ON THEIR ROOF.
I NEVER -- THERE IS NO SALES.
I MEAN THERE HAS NEVER BEEN -- WE HAVEN'T OPENED, IN OTHER
WORDS.
WE DO HAVE A CHURCH THAT HAD REUNIONS BEFORE.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SPEAKING OF?
BUT WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HOMELESS.
AND WE HAVE BOTH HAD THAT ISSUE, HERSELF AND I.
REGARDING -- I DON'T KNOW, I DID HAVE HER APPROACH ME -- OR
SOMEONE FROM HER REALTOR ASK IF THEY COULD RENT OUR AREA.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW.
THE HURRICANE DID CAUSE A LOT OF DEBRIS ON HER SEED, BUT
MOSTLY WE HAVE PICKED UP EVERYTHING.
MOSTLY -- THE WHOLE AREA BEHIND US WE HAVE FIXED AND TAKEN
CARE OF ALL THE TREES BACK THERE.
ALL CLEANED.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T -- I APOLOGIZE IF SHE SAID WE THREW
SOMETHING ON THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY BEER BOTTLES.
WE ARE NOT OPEN.
I BELIEVE THAT IS THE HOMELESS PEOPLE WE HAD ISSUES WITH
BACK THERE.
08:30:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANY MUSIC AT ANY TIME?
08:30:29PM >> SO SORRY, SIR?
08:30:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANY MUSIC AT ANY TIME?
08:30:33PM >> WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE MUSIC BECAUSE THERE IS A CHURCH
DOWN THERE.
THERE IS A CHURCH.
AND THEY DO GATHERINGS AND THEY DO FESTIVE STUFF.
AND THEY DO PUT MUSIC ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS AND I THINK
WEDNESDAYS THEY HAVE GATHERINGS.
08:30:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU KNOW WHAT TIME THE MUSIC ENDS?
08:30:51PM >> I DON'T KNOW, SIR.
LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES THEY ARE THERE UNTIL 11:00.
08:30:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST LIKE -- LIKE TO GET A DEFINITE
TIME TO CLOSE THE MUSIC IF YOU WANT THE ALCOHOL.
THAT IS JUST WITH ME --
08:31:07PM >> THE DEFINITE TIME TO CLOSE THE MUSIC?
IS MIDNIGHT -- IS MIDNIGHT OKAY, SIR?
I AM WILLING TO -- LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD OPEN JUST UNTIL
MIDNIGHT OR 11:00 DURING THE WEEK.
08:31:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU GOT TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO
WITH THE MUSIC AND WHAT TIME YOU WANT TO STOP IT.
08:31:28PM >> I CAN STOP THE MUSIC AT NOON -- MIDNIGHT, I AM SORRY.
08:31:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING ELSE?
08:31:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, I THINK THAT IS FINE.
08:31:38PM >> IT IS ALL COMMERCIAL AREA, SIR.
THE OFFICE IS CLOSED --
08:31:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME FINISH.
08:31:45PM >> OKAY, SIR.
08:31:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU ARE UPPING ANOTHER FLOOR, THE WIND
PICKS UP THE MUSIC AND TAKES IT A LONG, LONG WAY.
08:31:52PM >> IT ECHOS, SIR, I UNDERSTAND.
08:31:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FOOTBALL OR BASEBALL STADIUM ENCLOSED AND
YOU CAN HEAR THE MUSIC FIVE MILES AWAY.
BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU.
08:32:02PM >> THE MUSIC WILL BE IN THE EVENINGS WHEN ALL THE OFFICES
ARE CLOSED IN THE AREA, SIR.
08:32:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT.
THE HOUR THAT THE MUSIC STOPS.
08:32:14PM >> MIDNIGHT HAVE SIR.
08:32:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WILL BE WILLING TO PUT IT ON THE
SITE PLAN SO IT IS IN THE RECORD.
08:32:19PM >> IF IT NEEDS TO BE, YES, MA'AM.
08:32:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:32:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WANT TO CLARIFY JUST FOR OUTDOOR.
08:32:29PM >> JUST OUTDOOR.
08:32:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT SURE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR.
DOES THAT WORK, MISS DOCK?
08:32:35PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES.
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
WHAT ARE THE HOURS DURING THE WEEK NOW?
08:32:41PM >> WE WOULD DO FROM 11:
00, LIKE I SAID TO MIDNIGHT.
AND FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS UNTIL 2:00.
AND THEN YOU SAID OUTSIDE ONLY UNTIL MIDNIGHT, THE MUSIC.
08:32:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
EVEN THOUGH -- CLOSES AT 11.
08:32:59PM >> EVERYTHING WILL CLOSE AT 11:
00, YES, SIR.
08:33:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
OUTDOORS ENDS AT 11.
08:33:05PM >> NO, MIDNIGHT, HE SAID.
MIDNIGHT.
08:33:09PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
MIDNIGHT DAILY?
08:33:12PM >> YES, MA'AM.
08:33:12PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE SITE PLAN
MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
08:33:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO CLOSE.
08:33:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION.
08:33:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
08:33:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, READ 12.
08:33:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WILL READ 12 ARE, FILE NUMBER AB
2-24-12, ORDINANCE FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION.
SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES OF LARGE
CONSUMPTION AND MAKING SALE OF BEVERAGE REGARDLESS OF
ALCOHOL -- IF I CAN TURN THE PAGE I CAN READ IT -- CONTENT,
BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AND A CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT
LOCATED AT 1012 WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTIONS 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES ARE REPEALED.
08:34:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
1020 WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD.
08:34:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MUSIC CLOSING AT 11 --
08:34:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, MIDNIGHT.
08:34:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MIDNIGHT.
I FORGOT THE OTHER -- YEAH.
THANK YOU.
08:34:22PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
UP WANTED TO -- YOU SOUNDED LIKE 1012 -- IT IS 1020.
1020 BUSCH BOULEVARD.
THANK YOU.
08:34:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:34:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
08:34:44PM >>CLERK:
MOTION WITH CARLSON AND VIERA VOTING NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ON DECEMBER 19, 2024, AT 10:00
IN OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 3360.
08:35:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 13.
WE HAVE FIVE MORE CASES.
08:35:06PM >>LEO DeBARDELEBEN:
ITEM NUMBER 13, LEO DeBARDELEBEN, LAND
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 13 IS AB 2-24-34 FOR THE PROPERTY 630 NORTH FLORIDA
AVENUE.
SPECIAL USE FOR ALCOHOLIC SALES SMALL VENUE ON PREMISE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AB SALES AND 1819 SQUARE FEET OF
INDOOR AREA AND 382 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA FOR A
TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 2201 SQUARE FEET.
AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING IS 28 SPACES AND 28 SPACES ARE
PROVIDED.
I HAVE AN AERIAL MAP TO SHOW. THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED
IN RED ON THE MAP.
THIS PROPERTY IS ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
IT IS IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING
DISTRICT, WHICH RUNS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, WITH
WEST LAMBRIGHT STREET TO THE NORTH AND EAST NORTH STREET TO
THE SOUTH.
THE APPLICANT HAS A CURRENT AB SALES APPROVAL FOR CRAFT
DISTILLERY, RETAIL SHOPPER GOODS WITH PACKAGE SALES.
THIS REQUEST WILL ALLOW THE ABILITY TO ADD CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
YOU CAN SEE THE -- THE -- THE AREA THE BUILDING HERE THAT IS
THE INDOOR SALES AREA.
AND THEN WITH THE OUTDOOR SALES AREA IS DEPICTED.
PROPERTY -- YOU ENTER THE PROPERTY ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE
HERE.
AND THE PARKING IS SITUATED TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST OF
THE BUILDING.
THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH HERE WHICH IS ON THE PROPERTY IS
ALSO A -- IT IS THE SOL DE CUBA CAFE REST RANT THAT ALSO HAS
AN AB SALES APPROVAL OF THE SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES.
I HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
08:37:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS WASN'T ALREADY WET ZONED?
08:37:46PM >> YES, SIR, THE CURRENT APPROVAL IS FOR -- FOR A CRAFT
DISTILLERY, YEAH.
08:37:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WAS GOING TO SAY.
08:37:56PM >> THIS THE PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS THE PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
FROM THAT SAME ANGLE, THIS IS NORTH -- THIS IS WEST
LAMBRIGHT STREET LOOKING TO THE WEST.
THIS IS PHOTO OF THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING.
FROM THAT BACK PARKING LOT.
HERE IS A PHOTO LOOKING NORTH ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
AND THIS IS -- THIS IS THE VIEW FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
WHICH IS A VACANT COMMERCIAL LOT CURRENTLY.
THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED
THIS APPLICATION AND FOUND THE REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT
WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
THERE IS ONE WAIVER THAT IS REQUESTED RELATED TO THE
DISTANCE SEPARATION AND THAT WILL BE FROM THAT -- FROM THAT
OTHER VENUE.
MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED TO BE MADE
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
08:39:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH,ER IS -- SIR.
APPLICANT.
08:39:10PM >> KEVIN CASEY HERE.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE 2018.
A CHANGE -- THE STATE LICENSE FOR CRAFT DISTILLERY CHANGED
AND ALLOWS US TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR INDIVIDUAL COCKTAIL
SALES AND EXPAND TO BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
THAT IS THE REQUEST.
WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TOOK
COMMUNITY.
AND REQUESTING FEWER HOURS THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED SINCE IT STARTED THERE.
08:39:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS.
08:39:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU SPECIFY WHAT THOSE HOURS ARE.
08:39:43PM >> LIMITED OUTDOOR NOISE UNTIL 10:
00.
NO MORE OUTSIDE TOWN OR TVS AFTER 10:00 AND CAPPED OUR HOURS
AT -- WHERE DID WE END UP?
THE NEIGHBORS MADE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS.
10:00 TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.
11:00 ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY AND MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAY,
SATURDAY.
08:40:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER.13.
08:40:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
08:40:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
08:40:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER 13, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:40:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE AB 24-24-34 ORDINANCE APPROVING SU -2,
SMALL VENUE PREMISE HIS AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE AND
MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES REGARDLESS
CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THE PLOT, TRACT LAND AS
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF
ORDINANCES ARE IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING EFFECTIVE
DATE.
08:40:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
08:41:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
08:41:04PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION DECEMBER 19, 2024 AT 10:00 AT
OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD
FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33062.
08:41:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOUR MORE CASES.
08:41:25PM >>LEO DeBARDELEBEN:
LEO DeBARDELEBEN.
THE PROPERTY AT 2106 WEST MAIN STREET.
THE APPLICANT IS DAVID MECHANIK AND PROPERTY OWNER IS 2106
WEST MAIN STREET LCC.
THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,
BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE, PACKAGE
SALES, CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AB SALES AND 3373 SQUARE FEET OF
INDOOR AREA AND 466 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA FOR A
TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 4239 SQUARE FEET.
THE AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
NO PARKING IS REQUIRED FOR EXISTING STRUCTURES PER THE WEST
TAMPA CORE OVERLAY.
I HAVE A -- I HAVE AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE ZONING ON THE SITE.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY HERE OUTLINED IN RED.
AND ALONG MAIN STREET.
THIS IS BETWEEN NORTH ALBANY AVENUE AND NORTH HOWARD.
HERE.
THIS IS ALONG COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE I-275 TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.
THE APPLICANT HAS CURRENT AB SALES APPROVAL WITH A SMALL
VENUE FOR THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE.
THIS REQUEST WILL ADD LIQUOR.
THE ABILITY TO SELL LIQUOR.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
YOU SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY HERE.
THIS IS NORTH MAIN STREET TO THE NORTH.
AND THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SALES AREA ARE DEPICTED HERE.
THIS APPLICANT CURRENTLY HAS AN AB SALES APPROVAL -- SORRY,
THE PROPERTY HAS AN AB SALES APPROVAL FOR A SMALL VENUE FOR
THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE I ALREADY COVERED THAT.
AND I HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE OF THE SITE.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE FROM WEST MAIN STREET.
THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING EAST -- SORRY, LOOKING WEST ON WEST
MAIN STREET.
THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING
RENOVATED ACROSS THE STREET.
THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING EAST ON MAIN STREET.
THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH ON NORTH ALBANY.
YOU CAN SEE THE END OF THE BUILDING ON WEST MAIN.
AND THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING NORTH ON WEST ALBANY.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND THE COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED
THE APPLICATION AND FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE
-- WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
REGULATIONS THAT IS DUE TO THE WAIVER THAT WAS REQUESTED FOR
THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WILL BE REARED TO BE MADE
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
08:44:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
NO?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. MECHANIK, APPLICANT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:44:51PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
EXCUSE MY APPEARANCE.
I HAD A MEDICAL PROCEDURE YESTERDAY.
DOCTOR TOLD ME I SHOULD NOT TRAVEL.
DO NOT DRIVE.
SO I WAS DOING THIS VIRTUALLY UNTIL MY COMPUTER CRASHED, AND
-- AND I MEAN IT WAS QUITE AN EXASPERATING EXPERIENCE, BUT I
DROVE VERY RAPIDLY OVER HERE.
AND I MADE IT IN TIME.
THANK YOU.
08:45:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYONE WHO IS LISTENING, DISREGARD WHAT HE
JUST SAID.
I>> WAS ON THE CROSSTOWN DRIVING FIVE MILES PER HOUR THE
WHOLE TIME.
ANYWAY, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, MAIN STREET,
2106 LCC.
WITH ME THIS EVENING IS JARED BRAY AND HARRIET JACKSON AND
HAM JONES, WHO ARE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING.
HARRIET IS THE OPERATOR OF THE RESTAURANT.
AND SHE COULD NOT STAY.
SHE WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS EVENING.
BUT COULD NOT STAY THIS EVENING.
WHAT I HAVE SHOWED YOU A PHOTOGRAPH IS ON THE ELMO IS THE
RED BRICK STOREFRONT.
IT IS A HISTORIC BUILDING.
THEY INTEND TO PRESERVE IT AND KEEP IT THAT WAY.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY.
LEO POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS A TECHNICAL OBJECTION.
THE ONLY OBJECTION IS THE WAY WE WORDED THE WAIVER.
WE HAVE ONE SINGLE SOLITARY WAIVER, WHICH IS THE DISTANCE
WAIVER BETWEEN ALCOHOLIC SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, WHICH MAIN
STREET, I THINK YOU CAN UNDERSTAND -- I DON'T THINK YOU CAN
-- YOU CAN ESTABLISH A LIQUOR SALES WITHOUT MEETING A WAIVER
ON THAT PARTICULAR STREET.
AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE IN THE ELMO PHOTOGRAPH THAT THERE IS
ON-STREET PARKING LOCATED HERE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT SINCE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC
WAS TOPIC OF MANY PETITIONS THIS EVENING.
THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC IS -- FIRST OF ALL, WE LIMIT IT
TO 11 P.M. ON THE SITE PLAN.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE OUTDOOR AREAS IN THE BACK OF THE
BUILDING WHICH FACES AN ALLEY, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, BEYOND
THE ALLEY IS I-275.
AND ALL THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND 275, NO
RESIDENTIAL.
ALL OTHER HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE AS SPECIFIED IN THE CODE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO READ OFF THE CRITERIA IF I COULD
SEPARATE THESE PAGES.
I APOLOGIZE.
I AM JUST GOING TO PULL THIS FROM THE REPORT.
INGRESS AND EGRESS, I NEED TO TESTIFY AS TO THESE FACTOR
THAT ARE SPECIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE.
INGRESS AND EGRESS IS VIA MAIN STREET.
OFFSITE PARKING IS NOT A REQUIREMENT UNDER THE WEST TAMPA
OVERLAY.
REFUSE AND SERVICE AREA IS IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
IT MEETS CODE REQUIREMENTS.
LIGHTING, UTILITIES, DRAINAGE AND CONTROL OF ADVERSE IMPACTS
ARE ALL PER THE CODE AND NO STAFF OBJECTIONS WERE LEVELED IN
CONNECTION WITH THIS APPLICATION.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
08:49:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO FOR ITEM 14.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ NUMBER 14.
08:49:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AB 2-24-35.
ORDINANCE FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTIONS.
AND MAKING LAWFUL SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL
CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT,
PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATE AT 2106 WEST MAIN STREET AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED
-- REPEALS ORDINANCE 2018-161 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08:50:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
08:50:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:50:23PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
DECEMBER 19, 2024 AT 10:00 IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL
CHAMBERS 315, E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33062.
08:50:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, TO OPEN ITEM
NUMBER 13.
08:50:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO HOME AND GET SOME REST.
08:50:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REOPEN ITEM 13.
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
13 HAS BEEN REOPENED.
I GUESS A TECHNICAL ISSUE.
08:51:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THE APPLICANT MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY HAD AGREED
UPON A CERTAIN SET OF HOURS AND CLOSING TIMES ON CERTAIN
HOLIDAYS.
AND THAT WAS TO BE ADDED TO THE TIME.
THAT WAS NOT ON THE REVISION SHEET.
AND I APOLOGIZE.
SO WE ASKED THAT THIS BE REOPENED TO THE SO WE CAN STATE
THOSE SPECIAL DATES THEY WOULD LIKE THOSE HOURS ON THE
RECORD AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THEIR REVISIONS BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
08:51:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME ON UP AND LET US KNOW.
08:51:32PM >> KEVIN GAYCY AGAIN.
THE SPECIFIC HOURS -- REQUESTED TO OPEN 1 A.M. ON THE
FOLLOWING DAYS, NEW YEAR'S DAY, NEW YEAR'S EVE, GASPARILLA
DAY, SUPER BOWL SUNDAY, ST. PATRICK'S CINCO DeMAYO, LABOR
DAY, FOURTH OF JULY, DECEMBER 15-JANUARY 10.
THAT CAPTURED OUR HOLIDAY PARTIES AND PRIVATE EVENTS.
08:51:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW DOES COUNCIL FEEL ABOUT THAT?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT THESE HOURS?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MISS DOCK, DO WE NEED TO REREAD THE ORDINANCE AND DO IT ALL
OVER AGAIN?
08:52:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T BELIEVE THE TITLE HAS TO CHANGE,
BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU DO A MOTION TO AMEND.
08:52:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE AND INCLUDE THAT
REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
08:52:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO AMEND AB2-24-34 FOR REVISION
SHEET.
08:52:39PM >> FROM A USER STANDPOINT, WE DO A LOT OF PRIVATE HOLIDAY
PARTIES DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS AND WANT THE
FLEXIBILITY TO GO PAST 11:00 ON SOME OF THOSE DAYS.
1:00 AND CAPTURED THOSE THINGS AND NEW YEAR'S EVE AND THE
COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS THAT BLEED PAST OUR NORMAL
OPERATING HOURS.
08:53:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE DISSOLVED THE
CITY GOVERNMENT WHEN YOU WERE GONE. ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER
15.
08:53:17PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK --
08:53:23PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
08:53:28PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 15 ,AB2-24-36, PROPERTY 5017 EAST WASHINGTON STREET.
THIS REQUEST FOR A LARGE VENUE CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE
AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES,
CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISE.
THE LOCATION IS CURRENTLY OPERATED AS A RECREATIONAL
FACILITY, A PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
THE SHRINER'S LOCATION.
THE AB SALES REQUESTED THE INDOOR AREA 25,317 SQUARE FEET.
OUTDOOR AREA 12,948.
FOR A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 38,265 SQUARE FEET.
THE HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
TOTAL OF 225 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 158 SPACES ARE
PROVIDED.
SO THIS LOCATION HAS CURRENT AB SALES APPROVAL.
IT WAS APPROVED IN 2023.
AND IT WAS UNDER AB 22-23-03 FOR A LARGE VENUE
CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISE ONLY.
THIS WHY BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WILL ALLOW THAT ABILITY FOR
PACKAGE SALES.
IN ADDITION, IT ADDS AN ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SALES AREA TO THE
REQUEST.
SO THIS IS THE SITE.
AND WE CAN JUST ZOOM OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.
THIS IS WASHINGTON STREET.
THIS IS SOUTH 50th STREET.
SOME THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SITE.
THE RED ACTUALLY EXTENDS BEYOND THAT -- NOT CORRECT.
IT REALLY SHOULD BE THIS YELLOW LINE HERE.
THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
BUT THE FACILITY, YOU CAN SEE, OF COURSE, IS BUILT -- IT IS
IN OPERATION CURRENTLY.
THERE IS AN OUTDOOR AREA THAT IS LOCATED IN THE REAR.
THIS WOULD EXTEND THAT OUTDOOR AREA FURTHER TO THE EAST.
YOU CAN SEE IT HAS THE CI ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WHICH WAS SUBMITTED WITH THAT REQUEST.
SO THIS IS WASHINGTON STREET.
YOU CAN ENTER THE SITE ON WASHINGTON, AND THEN THE SURFACE
PARKING IS JUST IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THIS IS THE OUTDOOR AREA WHICH HAS BEEN ADDED TO THIS
REQUEST.
BUT THE AB SALES AREA IS OUTLINED ON THE DARK ITEM ON THE
SITE PLAN.
I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
SO THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE SITE ON WASHINGTON.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW THAT SHOWS THE PARKING.
ANOTHER VIEW, THIS IS THE PARKING THAT IS IN FRONT OF THE
SITE LOOK TOWARD THE COMMERCIAL TOWARD 50th.
THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING EAST TO WASHINGTON.
THE SITE IS OFF TO THE RIGHT OF THIS PICTURE.
THIS IS NORTH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARCEL.
THIS IS ALSO NORTH AS IF YOU ARE LOOKING WEST FROM
WASHINGTON.
AND THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE AT 50th STREET.
FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
THERE ARE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST
AND SECOND READING.
AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
08:56:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
JAMIE MAIER.
YES, MA'AM.
08:56:58PM >> JAMIE MAIER OF HILL WARD HENDERSON.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE FACT YOU HAD A 12-HOUR DAY AS OF
ABOUT NOW, I AM GOING TO BREEZE THROUGH MY SLIDES.
AS MISS DOCK EXPLAINED, THIS IS THE GENT SHRINE CENTER AND
MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO SEEN US COME BEFORE YOU IN 2021 AND
2023.
A LONG PROCESS TO GET THIS SITE BUILT.
THEY FINISHED CONSTRUCTING IT AND OPENED DURING COVID.
SO THEY STARTED KIND OF IN PHASES.
ALSO HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IT IS NONPROFIT AND CAN'T
GET THEIR FUNDING AT ONE TIME.
THEY SPACE THINGS OUT AND THEN THEY FINALLY GOT TO FINISH
THEIR PATIO IN 2023 AND AN EVENT LAWN THAT I WILL SHOW YOU A
PHOTO IN A MINUTE TO ADD TO THE AB AREA.
PACKAGE SALES AND I WANT TO CLARIFY -- FOR THEM IT IS FOR
CHARITY AUCTIONS, FUND RAISING AND EVENT THAT MAY BE SELLING
CHAMPAGNE, BOTTLES OF PINE.
NOT A STORE.
BUT PACKAGE SALES TO HAVE THESE BOTTLES SOLD AT CHARITY
AUCTIONS AND EVENTS SO PEOPLE CAN LEAVE WITH THEM.
08:58:10PM >> AS MISS DOCK ALREADY STATED THE EXISTING AB AREA THE
WHOLE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT STRUCTURE BECAUSE MULTIPLE ROOMS,
EVENT ROOMS RENTED FOR WEDDINGS AND ALL KIND OF CHARITY
EVENTS.
THE ADDITIONAL AREA I HIGHLIGHTED WITH A LITTLE YELLOW
THERE.
THAT IS THE EVENT LAWN THEY JUST FINISHED THAT WILL BE
ADJACENT TO AND CONTINUOUS WITH THE OUTDOOR PATIO.
AND THAT IS THE ADDITION IS 5400 FEET.
THIS FOR CONTEXT, THIS IS THAT WHOLE 14,000-SQUARE-FOOT AREA
OF OUTDOOR ELSE AND THE EVENT LAWN AS YOU CAN SEE IS MORE
GEARED TOWARD LUXURY ELEVATED KIND OF EVENTS WEDDINGS.
JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU LITTLE CONTEXT ABOUT THE INTERIOR.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF SPACE SO THEY CAN HOST A WIDE VARIETY OF
EVENTS.
I WILL NOTE THIS IS THEIR HEADQUARTERS AND OFFICES THAT ARE
NOT WET ZONED AND A SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THEIR
CHARITABLE WORKS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY ARE
NONPROFIT.
SO HAVING THIS EVENT CENTER.
THEY USED TO HAVE ONE IN DANA SHORES A SIMILAR CONCEPT, A
LARGE INDOOR, OUTDOOR.
AND A HUGE SOURCE OF THEIR FUNDING WHEN THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO
KEEP THAT BUILDING, THEY BUILT THIS ONE.
STAFF FOUND INCONSISTENT FOR THE WAIVERS THAT YOU SEE WITH
MANY OF THESE APPLICATIONS.
WE DID PREVIOUSLY HAVE A WAIVER APPROVED FOR 158 SPACES.
PARKING LOT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE AND THEY HAVE AN
ARRANGEMENT WITH THE ADJACENT MARATHON GAS STATION.
THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE OPEN AREA WHERE THEY CAN PARK
OVERFLOW, IF NEEDED.
THEY NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING, BUT THEY HAVE
SOME OVERFLOW AREA AND A VERY LARGE PARKING LOT.
THEY NEVER HAD AN ISSUE OR ANY COMPLAINT OF ANYONE USING.
THE MARATHON GAS STATION IS THE SITE THAT THEY NEED A WAIVER
FROM BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALCOHOL SALES WITH A CONVENIENCE
STORE.
WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
09:00:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 15.
09:00:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
09:00:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
09:00:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
09:00:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:00:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVING ORDINANCE APPROVING SPECIAL USE PERMIT
FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE CONSUMPTION,
ON-PREMISE, PACKAGE SALES, OFF-PREMISES AND MAKING BEVERAGE
REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
FROM THE LOT, PLOT AND TRACT OF LAND LOCATED 5017 EAST
WASHINGTON STREET, PROVIDING ORDINANCES AND ORDINANCES ARE
REPEALED.
REPEALING ORDINANCE 2023-06 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
OPINION.
09:01:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
09:01:23PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
DECEMBER 19, 2024 AT 10 A.M. AT CITY HALL CHAMBERS 315 E.
KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
09:01:41PM >> NEXT UP IS ITEM 16.
09:01:43PM >> AGENDA ITEM 16 IS AB2-2 4-37 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2000
EAST 11th AVENUE.
THE APPLICANT IS MARK BENTLEY REPRESENTED BY RYAN MANASSE.
AND THIS REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL
VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES
OFF PREMISE.
AB IN 2270 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA ONLY.
AB SALES HOURS ARE KENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
THE PARKING REQUIRED FOR THE RETAIL SALES USE IS NINE
SPACES.
AND THERE ARE 106 SPACES PROVIDED ON-SITE FOR THE OTHER
COMMERCIAL USE THERE IS.
I HAVE AN AERIAL MAP OF THE PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE THE SITE
OUTLINED IN RED BETWEEN 21st STREET -- NORTH 21st STREET.
AND NORTH 20th STREET.
BETWEEN 12th AVENUE AND EAST 11th AVENUE HERE.
THIS IS YC-5 COMMERCIAL ZONING UP AND DOWN 21st STREET.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW APPROVAL.
THEY DON'T HAVE A PRIOR APPROVAL HERE.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. YOU CAN SEE
THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
IT'S -- THIS IS NORTH 21st STREET, EAST 12th AND EAST 11th.
THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF THE BUILDING AND YOU CAN SEE THE AB
-- THE PROPOSED AB SALES AREA IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
THERE ARE OTHER COMMERCIAL USES, OFFICE USES, PROFESSIONAL
USES IN THAT BUILDING.
THIS PROPOSED AB SALES AREA HAS A SEPARATE ENTRANCE.
AND THIS IS -- THIS IS THE AB SALES AREA PROPOSED IN THE
BASEMENT LEVEL OF THIS BUILDING. I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
PICTURES OF THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING FROM -- FROM 12th
AVENUE.
THIS IS THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE SOUTH SIDE THE BUILDING ON 11th
AVENUE.
THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING ALONG 21st
STREET.
PHOTO EAST 11th AVENUE.
YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING THERE TO THE LEFT.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON 11th.
BUILDING ON THE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON 21st STREET.
YOU CAN SEE I-4 IN THE DISTANCE THERE.
THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH ON 41st STREET.
PHOTO FACING WEST ON 12th AVENUE.
AND FACING EAST ON 12th AVENUE.
YOU SEE THE BURGER KING THERE IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT
AREA.
THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED
THE APPLICATION AND FOUND THE REQUEST TO IT BE CONSISTENT
WITH THE TAMPA -- THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
REGULATIONS MINOR SITE PLAN REGULATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THIS APPLICANT DID NOT REQUEST ANY WAIVERS.
THEY MET ALL THE CONDITIONS.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
09:05:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN.
09:05:30PM >> I SEE NONE.
MR. MANASSE.
09:05:33PM >> GOOD EVENING, RYAN MANASSE WITH JOHNSON POPE.
IF CCTV CAN BRING UP MY BRIEF PRESENTATION, I WILL BE BRIEF.
ONE CLARIFICATION ON THE STAFF REPORT.
LEO DID A -- HE SAID THAT HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER
14 AND WE HAVE RESTRICTED HOURS ON THE SITE PLAN.
7 A.M. TO 11 P.M. SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY.
AND 7 A.M. THROUGH 11 P.M. THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
SO I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER FRANK
CAPITANO, ALFONSO AND ELLISON.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2000 EAST 11th AVENUE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE POST OFFICE, BURGER KING AND I-275 WITH
THE SOUTH AND WEST BEING CONDOS.
TO THE EAST, THERE IS A FIRE STATION.
THE SITE PLAN I SUBMITTED, THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY USED AS
AN OFFICE THREE FLOORS ABOVE THE BASEMENT AND REQUESTED AB
AREA FOR THE BASEMENT 2272 SQUARE FEET.
THE BLUE LINE ON THE SITE PLAN INDICATES THE PERIMETER OF
THE BUILDING AND NO OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA BEING PROPOSED AND
LIMITED CHAPTER 14 HOURS AS ON THE SITE PLAN.
7 A.M. TO 11 P.M., SUNDAY FLEW WEDNESDAY AND YOU NOTICED THE
SIDEWALKS AND THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS EXIST ON THE SITE
AND NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SITE LAYOUT AT ALL.
ADDITIONALLY FENCED ALONG THE PERIMETER WITH GATED ACCESS ON
EAST 12th AND 11th AVENUE NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS FROM
PARKING TO INCLUDE AB SEPARATION DISTANCE WAIVERS.
WE MEET THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AS SURVEY PLANS SUBMITTED
ALONG WITH THE APPLICATION SHOWED.
AND THEN JUST BRIEFLY IN CLOSING, STAFF DID FIND OUR REQUEST
CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS.
WE ARE PROVIDING MORE RESTRICTIVE OPERATING HOURS IN CHOPPER
14 AND WE BELIEVE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 127-AND 27-132
WITH SPECIAL USES.
WITH THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE
ANY.
OPINION.
09:07:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON?
NO?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:07:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS THIS.
09:07:53PM >> GREAT QUESTION.
AND I WILL EXPLAIN IT, BUT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT IS
ACTUALLY CONDITIONED.
LIKE A CONCIERGE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY ESTABLISHMENT.
THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.
MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO GO GET A BOTTLE OF WINE.
RETAIL SALES AS THE PROPOSED USE.
YOU CAN'T BE A BAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
RETAIL SALES IN ZONING TYPICALLY CONSIDER THAT LESS THAN TEN
SEATS.
SO THERE MAY BE LESS THAN TEN SEATS IN THERE TO HAVE A DRINK
ON PREMISE OR MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.
AND CAME UP WITH THE CONCIERGE.
MORE OF A CONCIERGE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT.
LIKE A SPEAKEASY.
09:08:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CAN YOU HAVE A PARTY THERE?
09:08:45PM >> NO.
ON THE SITE PLAN RESTRICTED LESS THAN TEN SEATS.
A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT AND YOU CAN'T GET MORE THAN TEN SEATS
IN THERE OR LESS THAN TEN SEATS AND THERE WON'T BE ANY
PARTIES.
09:08:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE SHOULD PUT ONE OF THOSE IN HERE.
09:08:59PM >> DO YOU HAVE A BASEMENT?
I KNOW A GUY THAT DOES AB SALES.
09:09:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS WHERE EYE BORE CITY BREWING WAS.
AND HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE.
09:09:14PM >> I DON'T THINK SO.
09:09:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS NEARBY.
09:09:18PM >> UNLESS WAY BACK IN THE DAY.
BEFORE THAT STANTEX OFFICE.
09:09:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN THE EARLY '90s.
09:09:28PM >> WHEN I WAS IN CITY OF TAMPA, I DIDN'T GO BACK THAT FAR.
09:09:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
I SEE NOBODY.
09:09:42PM >> SORRY, STAFF, YOU SAID REVISIONS AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN
THE STAFF REPORT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
NO REVISIONS.
09:09:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO CLOSE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND SECONDED FROM
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
09:09:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, CHAIR.
FILE NUMBER AB2-24-37, ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2
FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTIONS AND
MAKING LAWFUL THE SALES OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT,
PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 2000 EAST 11th AVENUE AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 PROVIDING ALL
ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REVEALED
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:10:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
09:10:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SIR.
09:10:45PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION DECEMBER 19, 2024, 10 A.M., 315
E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33062.
09:10:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
09:11:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AB2-24-48.
FOR THE PROPERTY AT 17501 N. FRANKLIN STREET.
BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE
SALES OFF PREMISE.
IN REQUEST WILL CONTAIN 7989 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA ON
THE FIRST FLOOR AND SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE SECOND FLOOR
FOR 15,978 SQUARE FEET.
THERE ARE -- ON THE SITE, A LARGE VENUE.
THE USE IS A RESTAURANT, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER GOODS.
SHOW THE SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
09:11:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GET THE OVERHEAD -- THE SCREEN SHOWS THE
PREVIOUS CASE.
THERE WE GO.
09:11:57PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THIS IS HENDERSON AVENUE AND FRANKLIN
STREET.
THIS IS THE AREA OUTLINED IN GOLD FOR THE AB ESTABLISHMENT.
THIS MAP ZONING MAP OF THE PROMPT.
THIS WAS OUTLINED IN RED.
HENDERSON.
N. FRANKLIN STREET.
THIS IS EAST 7th AVENUE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HAD THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE
CORNER THERE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS FRANKLIN STREET.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
THIS IS THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE IN THAT VIEW.
LET ME TURN IT THIS WAY.
SORRY.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON FRANKLIN STREET.
THE SITE IS OFF TO THE RIGHT IN THIS PICTURE.
THIS IS THE VIEW.
THIS IS IF YOU ARE AT FRANKLIN AND LOOKING EAST ON
HENDERSON.
THIS IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE IN THIS PHOTO.
THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW SOUTH OF THE SITE.
AND THEN WE SWING BACK AROUND.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON HENDERSON THAT IS TOWARD TAMPA
STREET.
THIS IS A SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND THEN THIS IS WEST ACROSS THE STREET.
OF THE SITE.
DRC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE DISTANCE SEPARATION WAIVER OF
OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
09:13:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
MR. HUDSON.
09:13:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEVER HAD SEVEN PEOPLE SO HAPPY TO SEE
YOU.
09:13:51PM >> I FEEL FLATTERED AND HELLO, AGAIN, TYLER HUDSON, ADDRESS
400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
GET STARTED ON MY PRESENTATION.
WITH ME HERE THIS EVENING IS AL RODGERS THE CONTRACT
PURCHASER OF THIS BUILDING ALONG WITH MAUREEN AROL THE
CURRENT OWNER OF THE BUILDING.
BOTH WILL SPEAK AND WILL GO IN THAT ORDER.
WE KNOW WHERE THIS IS, THE FARRIS BUILDING.
HALL AND FRANKLIN.
THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FRANKLIN AND HENDERSON, RIGHT
SMACK-DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YELLOW BRICK ROW DOOR WITH
FRANKLIN STREET.
THIS IS WHAT IS THERE TODAY.
I WANT TO WALK THROUGH VERY CAREFULLY WHAT IS ALLOWED AND I
WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SEEKING .WHAT IS ALLOWED TODAY
IS BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR SALES ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE FIRST
FLOOR.
ABOUT 8,000 SQUARE FEET.
BAR, LOUNGE USE IN PARTICULAR.
AND SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY, YOU CAN OPEN FROM
7 P.M. TO 1 A.M.
THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, OPEN FROM 7 P.M. TO 3 A.M.
AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THAT CAME UP.
I WILL GIVE YOU A HINT.
RELATES TO PARKING.
MANY YEARS PRIOR TO MAUREEN ACQUIRING THE BUILDING.
RIGHT NOW WET ZONED FROM 7 P.M. TO 1 A.M.
AND 7 P.M. TO 3 A.M. ON THE WEEKEND NIGHTS.
WHAT WE ARE SEEKING TO WET ZONE THE SECOND FLOOR TO
ACCOMMODATE A WET ZONING -- TO ACCOMMODATE AN EVENT VENUE
RATHER THAN CHANGING FROM BAR-LOUNGE USE, IS A
LARGE-EVENTUAL RUE RESTAURANT.
PRETTY MUCH 8,000-SQUARE-INTO THE SPACE.
TOO MUCH SPACE TO HAVE A SINGLE CONCEPT.
TOO DIFFICULT TO OPERATE AND COVER THE PREMISE WITH THE
SINGLE LARGE VENUE CATEGORIZATION.
WE WANT TO OPEN AT 7 P.M. RIGHT NOW THIS IS TAILOR-MADE TO
FUNCTION AS NIGHT CLUB AND ONLY A NIGHT CLUB ONLY.
THE ARE REASON FOR THAT, WHEN THIS WAS FIRST APPROVED YOU
COULDN'T PARK IT.
IN 1920, THEY DIDN'T BUILD A PARKING GARAGE BUT IT WAS FULL
OF CARS BECAUSE IT WAS AS CAR DEALERSHIP.
ONLY TIME THAT PARKING WAS AVAILABLE IN THE PEREMPTORY OF
THIS BUILDING WITH THE WET ZONE WITH THE OFFICE BUILDINGS
NEARBY AND DIDN'T EMPTY OUT IN UNTIL 7 P.M. A WEIRD ORDER OF
EFFECTS WITH ZONING REGULATIONS, PARKING, AND THINGS LIKE.
WHAT YOU SEE ON SCREEN IS WHAT WE ARE SEEKING.
PRESERVE THE HOURS.
MAXIMUM HOURS.
NOT MINIMUM HOURS PLACES OF THE VICINITY.
THE MEATERY, ARMATURE WORKS.
THEY HAVE HOURS BUT DON'T USE THEM ALL THE TIME.
IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
ON THE COMMITMENT FRONT, NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND AT ALL.
THERE ARE LIMITED OPPORTUNITY FOR OUTDOOR SEATING.
YOU COULD -- AND WE WILL HAVE A SIDEWALK CAFE TO GET
PROBABLY ONE ROW OF SEATS ALONG THE SIDEWALK.
A VACATED ALLEY BEHIND THE SITE WHICH IS CURRENTLY SUBJECT
TO AN EASEMENT THAT COULD PROBABLY CHANGE AND MAYBE FIT
SEATS IN THE BACK.
DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO SURFACE LEVEL OUTDOOR.
WE ARE PROPOSING A PROHIBITION ON OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.
THERE HAS BEEN CONCERNS WITH ROOFTOP PLACES IN TAMPA
HEIGHTS, PROHIBITING COMMERCIAL USE OF THE ROOFTOP.
IT WOULD BE AWESOME CANDIDLY.
HAS A GREAT VIEW.
THE VIEW SHED IS LIMITED TO THE SOUTH.
NO TALLER BUILDINGS, BUT WE ARE -- WE ARE WE THINK THIS IS
PAN IMPORTANT THING TO HIT IT COMMIT TO.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO COMMERCIALIZE THE ROOFTOP.
THAT IS IN THE REVISION SHEET, THE SUPPLEMENTAL REVISION
SHEET IF WE ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A MOTION FOR
SUPPORT, MAKE SURE THAT IS PART OF ANY MOTION WE MIGHT GET.
NOT CHANGING THE WEEKDAY HOURS PAST 1 A.M.
MAXIMUM.
THIS IS TAMPA HEIGHTS WHERE PEOPLE MEETING OFF SHIFT, TAMPA
GENERAL.
WE WANT IT TO BE A PEOPLE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME LATER IN THE
EVENING.
NOT TO MAKE THIS HUGE LOCUST OF NIGHT LIFE.
BUT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT SCHEDULE AND HAVING A PLACE TO
GRAB A BITE TO EAT AFTER 11 P.M. IN A CITY WHAT TAMPA IS
BECOME SOMETHING A REASONABLE THING TO OFFER GIVEN THE
INVESTMENT GOING INTO FRANKLIN STREET.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME HISTORY BUFFS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
PODIUM.
BRIM BY A GENTLEMAN NAMED FRED FARRIS.
IF YOUR NAME IS FRED FARRIS AND THE 1920s AND SELL CARS,
PROBABLY ONLY ONE BRAND YOU CAN SELL IS FORD.
IT IS FRED FORD IN THE MID-1930s.
FARRIS BUILDING.
PAINSTAKING AMOUNT OF WORK SHE WENT TO REVITALIZE THIS
BUILDING.
TO LANDMARK IT.
TO PRESERVE IT FOR -- NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.
YOU NEVER ARE GOING TO SEE MULTIFAMILY ON TOP OF THIS.
THIS IS THE BUILDING AND THE LAND IS EXPENSIVE.
WE NEED TO FIND FLEXIBLE WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE
MONEY AT THE BUILDING, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE ARE HERE
TO GET RID OF THE NIGHT CLUB ONLY WET ZONING.
SINCE THIS WET ZONING FIRST GOT APPROVED, THIS -- THIS --
SOME OF YOU, THIS COUNCIL AND SOME OF YOUR PREDECESSORS, A
LOT OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS APPROVED IN THE AREA.
IF YOU ADD ALL THE NUMBERS, 1952.
SOME OF THOSE ARE BUILT LIKE THE PEARL, 314 UNITS.
OTHER ONES LIKE THE YMCA, 477 UNITS.
THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT THE 321 UNITS, RAPIDLY
GOING TO COMPLETION.
PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE APARTMENTS WANT PLACE TO EAT.
RIGHT NOW THIS PLACE IS ONLY A NIGHTCLUB.
INTEREST OF IT BEING A NIGHTCLUB.
THAT IS NOT THE PREFERENCE AND NOT WILL BE BEST FOR FRANKLIN
STREET GIVEN THE INVESTMENT WITH THE CITY AND -- CRA HATS TO
PUT REAL MONEY BEHIND THE REAL WORK THAT THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN
PARTNERSHIP AND CRA AND MAUREEN WHO DESERVE AS TON OF CREDIT
WHO SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVITALIZE.
HIDDEN SPRINGS.
GREAT.
REALTO, YOU NEED A CATALYTIC.
HALL AND FRANKLIN AND HAD ISSUES, GROUP THAT WILL REVITALIZE
LIST.
WILL SPEAK TO THAT POINT.
BUT THE EXTENT.
I WOULD LIKE AL TO SPEAK NOW WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM AND MAUREEN WILL CLOSE TO TALK ABOUT
HER EXPERIENCES, UPS AND DOWNS WITH THIS PROPERTY.
THANKS.
09:20:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
09:20:36PM >> MY NAME IS AL RODGERS.
I LIVE AT 922 GULFVIEW.
GOOD EVENING.
I KNOW YOU ARE TIRED.
I AM TOO.
I AM UNDER CONTRACT TO ACQUIRE THE FARRIS BUILDING AT 1701
NORTH FRANKLIN AND THRILLED OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESTORE
AND REVITALIZE A HISTORIC BUILDING IN A CORRIDOR WE ALL
BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE.
BEFORE TALKING OF MY PLANS, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.
FIRST OF ALL, I AM NOT A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER.
I HAVE BEEN A BANKER FOR 35 YEARS.
I ARRIVED IN TAMPA IN 1988.
AND BEGAN MY CAREER AS A REAL ESTATE LENDER AT FIRST UNION.
IN 1998 ALONG WITH JOE CHILLURA JOINED MANUFACTURERS BANK
HEADQUARTERED AT LAKE AVENUE AND ARMENIA.
WE SOLD THAT BANK TO COLONIAL, AND AFTER WORKING FOR THE
ACQUIRING BANK, WE STARTED A NEW LOCAL COMMUNITY BANK
NAMED US AMERIBANK.
FROM 2007 FOR TEN YEARS, WE GREW THAT BY LENDING OVER $5
BILLION TO LOCAL BUSINESSES AND BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS
BEFORE MERGING WITH VALLEY NATIONAL BANK.
IN MY CAREER AS A BANKER, I HAVE MADE LOANS TO MANY TYPES OF
BUSINESSES.
SEEN MANY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES.
BUT I HAVE ALSO SEEN MANY FAIL.
IN FACT, MOST RESTAURANTS FAIL, WHICH IS YOUR SAYING WHY
WOULD A BANKER TAKE ON SUCH AN ENDEAVOR.
EXACTLY WHAT MY WIFE SAID THIS MORNING.
SHE IS A RESTAURANTEUR AND HAS A FAMILY IN THE RESTAURANT
BUSINESS AND SHE THINKS WE CAN DO IT BUT IT WILL NOT BE
EASY.
SHORT ANSWER IS THIS.
I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE BUILDING AND I SEE A FUTURE IN THE
NORTH FRANKLIN CORRIDOR.
THE RESTAURANT CONCEPT BRIEFLY SUCCEEDED IN THIS BUILDING,
FOUR YEARS SINCE THE DOORS WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE QUITE A BIT OF CAPITAL AND FORTITUDE
TO BRING THIS BUILDING BACK TO LIFE AGAIN.
NOW THAT YOU HAVE MY BACKGROUND, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY I NEED
YOUR HELP TONIGHT.
CURRENT WET ZONING FOR THE BUILDING IS TAILER-MADE FOR ONE
USE AND ONE USE ONLY, A NIGHT CLUB.
WE RECEIVED LETTERS OF INTENT FROM NATIONAL NIGHT CLUB
OPERATORS WHO WANT TO COME TO TAMPA.
I DON'T WANT TO OPERATE A NIGHT CLUB AND REFER NOT TO HAVE
ONE AS A TENANT.
I KNOW THE CHALLENGE.
I WAS PART OWNER OF A BAR ON HOWARD AVENUE.
AND HAPPILY I SOLD THAT FIVE MONTHS AGO.
AND MOVING ON TIRED.
AND TIRED OF THE LATE NIGHT PHONE CALLS AND THE THINGS THAT
HAPPENED IN THAT BUSINESS.
LET'S SEE.
I HAVEN'T INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN
DEVELOPING THE ACTUAL CONCEPTS UNTIL I KNOW WHETHER THIS
APPLICATION WILL BE APPROVED, BUT I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH
SOME RESTAURANT INDUSTRY VETERANS, SPECIFICALLY FRANK CHEVIS
FROM SALT ROCK GRILL AND RENEE VALENZUELA FROM RENEE'S
KITCHEN.
WE HAVE AN OUTLINE AND A PLAN, BUT BEING ABLE TO SELL
ALCOHOL TO SUPPLEMENT FOOD SALES IS A REQUIREMENT.
TYLER MENTIONED A LOT OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT DON'T
NEED TO PROBABLY BE REHASHED.
BUT WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO THE SECOND FLOOR AS AN EVENT RENTAL
SPACE WITH OVER A DOZEN WEDDINGS ALREADY BOOKED.
WE BELIEVE WEDDING RECEPTIONS AND OTHER CORPORATE EVENTS,
BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE PERFECT FOR
THAT VENUE.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS OF NEIGHBORHOOD AMPLIFIED
SOUND.
AND REACHING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL PORTIONS OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHILE WE ARE QUITE FAR AWAY FROM HOMES, WE ARE VOLUNTARILY
WILLING TO PROHIBIT ANY AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR SOUND AND AS TYLER
MENTIONED, WILLING TO PROHIBIT ANY ACTIVATED ROOFTOP.
MAUREEN HAS POURED HER HEART AND SOUL INTO RESTORING THE
FARRIS BUILDING, AND I DON'T JUST BELIEVE, I KNOW THAT A
THRIVING ALL-DAY CONCEPT AT 1701 N. FRANKLIN STREET IS THE
KEY CATALYST OF MAKING THIS CORRIDOR WORK.
JUST DAYS AGO, YOU ALL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A MULTIMILLION
DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN THE FRANKLIN STREET CORRIDOR AND HUMBLY
SUGGEST THAT APPROVING IN APPLICATION IS EQUALLY A CRITICAL
STEP TOWARD RESTORING FRANKLIN STREET TO THE PROMINENCE IT
HAD DECADE AGO.
I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION FOR THIS REQUEST.
09:25:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHEN YOU WERE AT THE MANUFACTURER'S
BANK, DID YOU WORK MANNY ALVAREZ.
09:25:35PM >> MANNY AND RICHARD AND TONY AND LOU AND ALL OF THEM.
I THINK THEY KNOW YOU WELL TOO.
09:25:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I KNOW CHARLIE AND MANNY'S WIFE WAS MARY
ALVAREZ, OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBER.
I WENT THERE AS A KID WITH MY DAD.
I HAD MY FIRST CHECKING ACCOUNT.
09:25:58PM >> REMEMBER THE VELVET ROPES.
09:26:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MANNY'S OFFICE.
AL LOPEZ BASEBALL RIGHT ON THE DESK.
09:26:05PM >> FRED McGRIFF AND ALL THOSE.
09:26:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
09:26:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SIR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
I GOT A LOT OF LETTERS FROM THE COMMUNITY INDICATING THAT
THEY WOULD PREFER IT CLOSE AT 1:00 -- 1:00 A.M. INSTEAD OF
3:00.
DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY?
09:26:26PM >> EXTENSIVELY -- CAN MAUREEN SPEAK.
WITH THIS OUR PRESENTATION STILL.
WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS -- BUT I WOULD LIKE
MAUREEN --
09:26:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THEY WERE TALKING.
09:26:35PM >> SORRY.
09:26:35PM >> THANK YOU.
YES, MAURICE EREL, 3401 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
AND THIS BUILDING WAS MY VERY FIRST COMMERCIAL PURCHASE.
AND DESTINED TO BE MY LAST IN CASE ANYBODY AS A TIMELINE.
I PURCHASED THIS IN 2014, FREE WATER WORKS PARK, PREARMATURE
WORKS.
WHAT DREW ME TO THIS AREA IS THAT IT WAS A HISTORIC
DISTRICT.
THE BUILDING ITSELF WAS ABSOLUTELY DREADFUL.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, LESS THAN A MONTH AFTER PURCHASING IT,
I HAD TO REACH OUT TO DENNIS FERNANDEZ TO PLEASE COME OVER
AND ADVISE ME HOW I CAN STOP THE -- THE ROOF FROM COLLAPSING
WITHOUT LOSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK GRANT DOLLARS, BECAUSE
BACK THEN, YOU HAD TO GET THE GRANT BEFORE YOU COULD DO THE
WORK.
AND WE HAD RAIN POURING IN.
ALL THE WINDOWS WHEN I PURCHASED THIS WERE BRICKED OVER AND
THE DOORS WERE PAINTED BLACK.
THERE WAS ZERO SUNLIGHT YOU COULD GET IN AND IT WAS BEING
OPERATED BY A BIKER BAR.
AS FAR AS I KNEW, IT WAS OPERATING 24-7.
THEY HAD HADN'T PAID RENT IN OVER SIX MONTHS AND THE OWNER
OF THE BUILDING WAS FOLLOWING LET ME WALK IN.
I REQUIRED THAT HE EVICT THAT TENANT BEFORE I PURCHASED IT.
AND FROM THEN FOR TWO YEARS, I RESTORED EVERYTHING STARTING
AT THE ROOF.
ALL THE AC WAS RIPPED OFF.
THE ROOF WAS REPLACED.
THE UPSTAIRS 26 WINDOWS WERE MERELY POLYURETHANE.
THEY WEREN'T WINDOWS.
I WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
I LOBBIED FOR THREE YEARS TO GET THEM TO EXTEND THEIR
SERVICE DISTRICT TO REACH PALM AVENUE SO WE WOULD BE
CONSIDERED PART OF IT.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT BENEFIT, TO HELP US RELOCATE HOMELESS
PEOPLE AND CLEAN UP THE MESSES THAT, AT THAT TIME, WAS
EVERYWHERE.
RAMPANT.
THE SALVATION ARMY WAS OPEN.
PEOPLE WOULD LINE UP AT NIGHT ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BLOCK.
THE ONES THAT DIDN'T GET ROOMS WOULD PARK THEMSELVES AROUND
OUR BUILDING FOR WHATEVER SAFETY.
MY NINE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WOULD NOT GET OUT OF THE CAR FOR
TWO YEARS BECAUSE EVERY SATURDAY, I WOULD GO WITH A PRESSURE
WASHER.
I WOULD GET AS MANY PEOPLE OFF OUR SIDEWALK.
AND THEN I WOULD CLEAN UP THE MESS SHE LEFT BEHIND.
IT WAS A TREMENDOUS ADVENTURE.
I HAVE TO SAY I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE BUILDING.
I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
ACTUALLY, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE BOB
McDONAUGH AND FORMER BOB BUCKHORN WERE TREMENDOUS
ASSISTANTS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, BOB BUCKHORN ATE LUNCH THERE MANY TIMES
A WEEK ONCE THE HALL OPENED.
AND I APPROACHED HIM AND HE GOT -- HE PERSONALLY IT ORDERED
A STOP SIGN WHEN I TOLD HIM PEOPLE WERE GOING TO GET KILLED
IF WE DIDN'T PUT A STOP SIGN ON HENDERSON.
HE SAID I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

HONESTLY, I JOINED HIS NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY.
LONG STORY SHORT, IT'S BECOME A LIFESTYLE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE BUSINESS THAT REALLY REVITALIZED THIS
AREA, THE HALL ON FRANKLIN, CAME TO A HORRIBLE END BECAUSE
OF COVID.
SO THE BUILDING HAS ACTUALLY BEEN VACANT SINCE DECEMBER OF
2020.
PRIOR TO THAT, HE HAD 10 TO 15 THOUSAND VISA TRANSACTIONS A
MONTH.
THE NUMBER OF PEDESTRIANS IN THIS AREA WAS OFF THE CHAIN,
AND EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS DOWN THE STREET LOVED US AND THEIR
BUSINESSES WERE VIBRANT.
I HAVE GOTTEN MANY LETTERS AND PHONE CALLS AND E-MAILS IN
THE LAST WEEK AS NEWS HAS GOTTEN AROUND AND NOT TO DEBATE
WHAT OUR COUNCILWOMAN SAID, BUT ALL OF THE NOTICES I HAVE
GOTTEN ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE 3 P.M. CLOSE.
BUT THEY WANT LUNCH.
THEY WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HAPPY HOUR AND THEY WANT TO
BE ABLE TO HAVE DINNER THERE.
THIS BRINGS PEOPLE, ACTIVITY AND ALL OF THAT BRINGS GOOD
THINGS.
WHEN YOU HAVE NO ONE THERE, WE WILL HAVE REPEATED PROBLEMS
WITH CRIME AND UNHOUSED PEOPLE.
SO I CAME TO THE SAD DECISION BECAUSE I BOUGHT THIS AS A
LEGACY ASSET FOR MY CHILDREN.

NEITHER ONE OF THEM WANT TO PARTICIPATE NOW AFTER SEEING
WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
AND I CAME TO THE DECISION THAT I HAVE TO SELL IT AND THAT
THE BEST PERSON TO BUY IT MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE AN
OWNER/OPERATOR.
I COULD EASILY HAVE LEASED IT TO A NUMBER OF BARS OR
NIGHTCLUBS WHO CONTACTED ME FROM NEW YORK AND ORLANDO, EVEN
A PREVIOUS OWNER WHO RAN THE CLUB CHAMBERS AND HAMBURGER
MARY'S, ALL LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK INTO THIS
AREA.
I DON'T WANT TO BE A LANDLORD ANYMORE AND I CANNOT BE AN
OWNER/OPERATOR BECAUSE I HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB WITH WELLS
FARGO.
I'M A FIDUCIARY FOR 200 CLIENTS.
I'M AN OFFICER OF THE BANK.
THAT'S MY DAY JOB.
AND I NEED TO SPEND TIME THERE NOW.
SO I FELT VERY BLESSED TO HAVE MET AL.
I WASN'T MARKETING THE PROPERTY.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW HE LEARNED ABOUT IT, BUT I HAVE SPENT
THE LAST SIX MONTHS WITH HIM, WITH HIS VENDORS.
I'VE BEEN ON THE ROOF.
THEY ARE NOT ONLY GOING TO REPLACE THE ROOF, THEY'LL PUT
SOLAR IN IT.
HE'S GOING TO MAINTAIN $300,000 WORTH OF EXHAUST HOODS THAT

WERE PUT INTO PLACE BY THE FORMER TENANT THAT I HAD TO
EVICT.
BASICALLY, I THINK IT WILL ONLY TAKE OFF FROM HERE WITH THE
RIGHT OWNERSHIP.
AND I THINK WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF US.
THANK YOU.
9:32:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
9:33:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I DID READ A LOT OF E-MAILS THAT ARE
DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT BUT WAS CLEAR THE
MAJORITY OF THEM DID STRESS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IT CLOSE
AT 1 A.M.
IT ALREADY IS TIED TO A NIGHTCLUB LIQUOR LICENSE, THEY CAN
SELL UNTIL 3 A.M. IS MY UNDERSTANDING, WHICH IS BELIEVABLE.
9:33:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME ON UP.
9:33:28PM >> IN RESPONSE TO THAT, LET ME SAY I DID SPEAK WITH BRIAN
SEEL AND TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION, AND THEIR CONCERN
WAS ABOUT NOISE AND COMPLAINTS.
I DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO COMPLAIN.
THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS ABSOLUTELY BLIGHTED.
THERE ARE NO HOMES.
THERE ARE 8 SURFACE PARKING LOTS ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
I WISH WE HAD RESIDENTIAL TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
THAT WOULD BE MY ULTIMATE DREAM AND MAYBE SOMEDAY IT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN.

BUT IF WE DON'T GET ACTIVITY THERE SOON, IT'S LESS AND LESS
LIKELY.
9:34:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WHERE IT IS SITUATED.
I DRIVE THAT STREET EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I ALWAYS LOOK OVER THERE TO SEE IF SOMETHING IS EVER GOING
TO HAPPEN.
9:34:19PM >> YAY, ME TOO.
9:34:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WANTED TO POINT IT OUT THAT I DID
RECEIVE THOSE LETTERS.
IT DOES SIT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S
NOTHING AROUND IT THAT I WOULD SEE BE A GREAT DISTURBANCE.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE SOME LIFE THERE AGAIN.
9:34:36PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:34:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
IT'S ACTUALLY WHERE I PARK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR
PARKING AT ARMATURE WORKS, SO I PARK OVER THERE.
WELL, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SPACES.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SPACES.
9:34:55PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THERE IS A SUPPLEMENTAL REVISION SHEET TO ENTER INTO THE
RECORD THAT CONTAINS THE AB SALES HOUR IN ADDITION TO THE NO
COMMERCIAL ROOFTOP PERMITTED IN ADDITION TO THE OUTDOOR
AMPLIFIED SOUND AND REVISION OF THE WAIVER.

SO THAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT COPY, SO I WILL SUBMIT THAT INTO
THE RECORD.
9:35:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
9:35:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT THIS IS ONE
OF THE AREAS TRYING TO EXTEND THE STREETCAR UP FLORIDA AND
BACK DOWN TAMPA STREET.
THESE TYPE OF VENUES WILL ASSIST IN ACTIVATING THAT AREA.
GREAT TO SEE THE OLD PICTURE OF THE BUILDING WITH THE
STREETCAR IN FRONT OF IT.
9:35:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU NEED REBUTTAL, MR. HUDSON?
9:35:46PM >> TYLER HUDSON, FOR THE RECORD.
I THINK YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH FOR TODAY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
9:35:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, LET'S KEEP GOING.
9:35:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MIGHT AS WELL GO TILL 10:00.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
I LEFT OFF WITH --
9:36:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STREETCAR GUY.
CHOO-CHOO ALAN.
NO, NO.
DON'T WANT THAT TO STICK.
DID NOT WORK OUT WELL FOR THE LAST GUY.
MOVE FILE AB 2-24-48, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST

READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
PERMIT SU 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE,
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES, PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF
PREMISES AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS
OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT
CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1701 NORTH
FRANKLIN STREET AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3,
PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2013-125,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, ALONG WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL
REVISION SHEET.
9:37:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
9:37:08PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH SECOND READING
AND ADOPTION BEING HELD ON DECEMBER 19, 2024, AT 10:00 A.M.
AT OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
9:37:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THAT CONCLUDES THIS VERY LONG CITY COUNCIL DAY.
I JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
THIS YEAR, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THESE ENDLESS CITY COUNCIL
MEETINGS.

9:37:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY WONDERFUL AIDE.
9:37:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
9:37:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ANY NEW BUSINESS?
9:37:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAD 20.
BUT I'LL LEAVE THEM FOR LATER.
9:37:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE DISCUSSED THIS.
I HAVE TO MAKE IT FORMAL.
IT WAS DEALING WITH THE COUNTY'S PRESENTATION TONIGHT ON THE
CITY-COUNTY REVIEW ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING
POST-MILTON AND HELENE AND THEIR REVIEW.
TO MAKE IT OFFICIALLY A CITY-COUNTY, AS WELL AS TEMPLE
TERRACE AND PLANT CITY ENDEAVOR, THE IDEA IS FOR US TO JUST
GIVE A TINY AMOUNT OF MONEY JUST FOR CONSIDERATION, IF YOU
WILL.
I'VE SPOKEN TO TEMPLE TERRACE AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT DOING
THE SAME THING AND I BELIEVE PLANT CITY.
THIS IS, BY THE WAY, I THINK HALF A MILLION DOLLAR, AND I'M
REQUESTING A VERY TINY AMOUNT, ADMINISTRATION HAS NO
OBJECTION TO IT, AS DISCUSSED.
MOTION ADMINISTRATION PREPARE A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION FOR
COUNCIL CONSIDERATION APPROPRIATING $50,000 FROM THE GENERAL
FUND, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE AMOUNT, TO SUPPORT THE
POST-HURRICANE COUNTYWIDE INTEGRATED STORMWATER SYSTEM
REVIEW.
9:38:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:38:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:39:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OH, YEAH.
IT'S THE REVIEW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
9:39:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
9:39:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT.
9:39:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
9:39:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M SORRY.
I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO PUT A DATE ON THIS.
I'LL JUST HAVE IT -- I DIDN'T HAVE IT HERE.
IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL.
DECEMBER --
9:39:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T HAVE DATES IN DECEMBER.
9:39:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S NOT LIKE A PRESENTATION, LIKE ON THE
CONSENT AGENDA.
THE NEXT CONSENT AGENDA.
9:39:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S DUE NEXT WEEK.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO.
9:39:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DECEMBER 19.
9:39:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANYTHING ELSE?

9:39:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO, SIR.
9:39:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:40:01PM >>THE CLERK:
MAKE THE MOTION -- [INAUDIBLE] --
9:40:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SORRY, LONG DAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:40:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU CAN ALSO DO IT DECEMBER 5.
9:40:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DECEMBER 19 OR 5 IT WAS, I HAD SOMETHING ON
BUSCH BOULEVARD AND THE HOMELESS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, SULING.
DECEMBER 5.
IT WAS DECEMBER 5.
I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT TRINITY CAFE TO JUST A REPORT AS
OPPOSED TO A PRESENTATION.
YES, SIR.
9:40:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE.
9:40:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT, ONE MORE WHEN I THINK
ABOUT IT.
I HAD TODAY'S ITEM ON TAMPA FIRE COMING BACK DECEMBER 5.
I WANT TO INCLUDE THAT, AMEND THAT FOR DECEMBER 5 TO ALSO
REPORT ON THE STATUS OF STATION 24.

BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE LAND.
JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THAT TO INCLUDE THE STATUS OF 24,
INCLUDES PERSONNEL FOR 24.
9:41:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON?
9:41:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
I JUST HAVE A CALENDAR REQUEST FOR 2025.
EVERY YEAR, THE THIRD THURSDAY OF NOVEMBER IS ALWAYS GREAT
AMERICAN TEACH IN.
FOR OUR DAYTIME HOURS I WOULD LIKE FOR US NOT TO MEET ON
GREAT AMERICAN TEACH IN NOVEMBER 20, 2025.
SO THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN GREAT AMERICAN TEACH-IN WHICH
I MISSED TODAY, SADLY.
BUT WE CAN STILL HAVE OUR EVENING MEETING.
9:41:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T NORMALLY HAVE AN --
9:41:51PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:41:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO SAY WHY DON'T WE HAVE REGULAR
SESSION THAT STARTS AT 1 P.M.
9:42:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
9:42:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE ALL RECEIVED A LETTER ASKING US TO
PARTICIPATE.
9:42:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CERTAINLY MESS UP PROCESSES FOR SETTING

HEARINGS, ADVERTISING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SECOND READS HAVE TO BE NOTICED --
9:42:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE WERE ALL INVITED TO GREAT AMERICAN
TEACH-IN.
9:42:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN WE HOLD THIS TO DECEMBER?
9:42:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DECEMBER 5 IS THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
9:42:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT'S NEXT YEAR, SO WE HAVE TIME TO THINK
ABOUT THIS.
9:42:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IF WE DO IT NOW, WE CAN JUST DO IT.
9:42:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK --
9:42:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE.
WE DO.
9:42:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE THING IS, I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU,
COUNCIL, THAT IS THE LAST MEETING BEFORE A TWO-WEEK HOLIDAY
FOR ONE WEEK.
YOU HAVE TWO WEEKS OFF AND THEN TWO WEEKS OFF IN DECEMBER.
THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO GO THROUGH THINGS OnBase, BE
ABLE TO GET TO COUNCIL IN A TIMELY FASHION.
IT'S UP TO COUNCIL.
I SUGGEST YOU LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE CHANGES
TO THE PROCESSES WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION.
9:43:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT WE MEET INSTEAD OF 1:00, AT 10:30.
THAT GIVES US 8 A.M. TO 10:00 TO DO THAT.
I LOVE DOING THAT AS WELL.
IS THAT GOOD?

9:43:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO, IT'S NOT, ACTUALLY.
GREAT AMERICAN TEACH-IN, WE CAN START AT 11 WOULD BE BETTER.
9:43:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THERE NOT GOING TO BE A NIGHT MEETING
THAT NIGHT?
9:43:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE HAVING ONE NOW BECAUSE OF THE
HURRICANE.
9:43:52PM >>THE CLERK:
HURRICANE AND COUNCIL'S OCTOBER MEETING --
9:43:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
11 A.M., NOVEMBER 20, 2025, GREAT AMERICAN
TEACH-IN.
9:44:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
9:44:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
LET ME WRITE 11 A.M.
9:44:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, ANY NEW
BUSINESS?
9:44:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE NOTHING.
9:44:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK?
9:44:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SOMEHOW I DID IT LAST YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I DID THAT.
MAYBE I DID IT ON A DIFFERENT DAY.
MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE SENT A MEMO OUT LAST WEEK ABOUT DOING AN
IN-PERSON COMMENDATION FOR ANDY JOHNSON.
I THINK YOU ALL KNOW HIM.

RETIRED METEOROLOGIST.
DURING THE STORMS, HE VOLUNTARILY SENT OUT A LOT OF VALUABLE
INFORMATION THAT HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE.
HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE STORM SURGE
WAS GOING TO HIT EVERYONE.
SO THERE'S SOME TIME SENSITIVITY TO THIS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT AN IN-CHAMBER
COMMENDATION ON DECEMBER 19, 2024, TO ANDY JOHNSON, FORENSIC
METEOROLOGIST FOR HIS PUBLIC SERVICE DURING THE 2024
HURRICANE SEASON.
9:45:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
YES, SIR, ANYTHING ELSE?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
HENDERSON WITH THE MOTION, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

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