TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2024, 5:01 P.M.
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5:09:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CALL TO ORDER, IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL
5:09:23PM CALL, PLEASE.
5:09:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
5:09:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
5:09:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
5:09:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
5:09:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
5:09:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
5:09:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
5:09:32PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:09:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:09:35PM MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS?
5:09:36PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:09:38PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:09:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:09:39PM AYE.
5:09:41PM THERE IS REALLY NOTHING TO GO OVER WITH THE AGENDA.
5:09:45PM I'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
5:09:47PM WHO WOULD LIKE TO KICK IT OFF?
5:09:52PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
5:09:53PM ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND
5:09:56PM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
5:09:58PM TONIGHT WE ARE HERE FOR THE OPENING.
5:10:00PM WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TO YOU A REPORT ON WHAT WE CALL THE
5:10:04PM CAPER.
5:10:04PM THAT IS THE CONSOLIDATED ACTION PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION
5:10:07PM REPORT RELATED TO HOUSING.
5:10:09PM THIS WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
5:10:13PM WHAT YOU RECEIVED WAS THE DRAFT OF THIS REPORT BECAUSE THE
5:10:16PM FINAL INPUT TO THIS REPORT IS THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
5:10:19PM SO YOU GET THE DRAFT.
5:10:21PM WE'LL GO OVER WHAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT.
5:10:23PM IT WILL BE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND THEN THIS WILL OPEN THE
5:10:27PM PUBLIC RECORD PERIOD ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REPORT, WHICH IS
5:10:30PM IN OUR STRATEGIES AND REQUIRES US TO DO THIS.
5:10:33PM I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MICHELLE BOONE, OUR HOUSING
5:10:38PM COORDINATOR.
5:10:39PM SHELL GIVE THE REPORT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
5:10:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:10:42PM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
5:10:43PM >>MICHELLE BOONE: MICHELLE BOONE, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
5:10:46PM DEVELOPMENT.
5:10:48PM LIKE ABBYE SAID, WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT INFORMATION ON OUR
5:10:51PM CAPER, OUR CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION
5:10:54PM REPORT.
5:10:54PM THIS IS OUR ANNUAL REPORT FOR OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WE
5:10:57PM ARE ALLOCATED, CDBG, HOME, ESG, HOPWA AND HOME.
5:11:04PM WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
5:11:05PM OUR EXPENDITURES ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE IN THE LAST
5:11:08PM YEAR.
5:11:09PM THIS IS OUR TIMELINE OF OUR CAPER.
5:11:12PM OUR FISCAL YEAR RUNS FROM OCTOBER 1 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30.
5:11:15PM SO WE FINALIZE ALL OF OUR PAYMENTS AND DOCUMENTS AND
5:11:18PM REPORTS.
5:11:19PM WE PROVIDE A NARRATIVE AND A DRAFT, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE A
5:11:23PM COPY AVAILABLE TO YOU AS WELL AS A COPY IS AVAILABLE ON THE
5:11:26PM HCD'S WEBSITE.
5:11:28PM AND IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ANYONE WHO
5:11:32PM WISHES TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT.
5:11:33PM TONIGHT, WE ARE SCHEDULED THE ONE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS
5:11:38PM REQUIRED BY HUD, TO COLLECT ANY INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL OR
5:11:43PM THE PUBLIC IN THE AUDIENCE IF THEY WOULD WISH TO SPEAK ON
5:11:49PM THE ITEM.
5:11:50PM WE WISH TO -- OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WILL RUN FROM TODAY
5:11:56PM THROUGH DECEMBER THE 6th.
5:11:58PM THEN WE WILL PROVIDE HUD WITH OUR FINAL COMMENTS, INCLUDING
5:12:02PM TODAY'S COMMENTS.
5:12:02PM THESE ARE OUR RESOURCES AND INVESTMENTS.
5:12:07PM LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE HUD FEDERAL DOLLARS, CDBG.
5:12:12PM SOME DOLLARS REMAINING FROM THE COVID YEARS, HOME, HOPWA,
5:12:17PM WHICH INCLUDES A FOUR-COUNTY AREA.
5:12:19PM PASCO, PINELLAS, HERNANDO, AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, NOT JUST
5:12:23PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OR CITY OF TAMPA.
5:12:25PM AND HOPWA-C, STRICTLY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DOLLARS, NOT
5:12:29PM STRICTLY TAMPA.
5:12:31PM OUR EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT DOLLARS.
5:12:33PM SPENT A TOTAL OF $13,847,858 ACROSS THOSE PROGRAMS IN THE
5:12:39PM LAST YEAR.
5:12:39PM SOME OF OUR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, THESE NUMBERS ARE
5:12:45PM AGGREGATED ACROSS MOST OF OUR PROGRAMS.
5:12:47PM WE PROVIDE SHELTER BED FUNDING.
5:12:50PM PROVIDE HOMELESS PREVENTION.
5:12:52PM PROVIDE RAPID REHOUSING DOLLARS, EMERGENCY SHELTER DOLLARS
5:12:56PM SUCH AS TAMPA HOPE AND SALVATION ARMY.
5:12:58PM THEN OUR HOME VOUCHERS, TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR
5:13:05PM CLIENTS WHO NEED RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
5:13:06PM OUR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS, AGAIN, IS
5:13:09PM FOR THE FOUR-COUNTY AREA.
5:13:11PM IT PROVIDES SHORT-TERM MORTGAGE AND RENTAL UTILITY
5:13:15PM ASSISTANCE.
5:13:15PM TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
5:13:19PM SOME FACILITY-BASED HOUSING PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY
5:13:22PM AND THE FOUR-COUNTY AREA AS WELL AS SUPPORT SERVICES.
5:13:25PM WE SERVED APPROXIMATELY 1334 CLIENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
5:13:30PM OUR HOUSING ASSISTANCE, AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL OF OUR COMBINED
5:13:35PM RESOURCES, DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO HOME BUYERS OR
5:13:39PM DARE OR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
5:13:41PM WE DID HELP CHDO HABITAT BUILD SEVEN NEW UNITS THIS YEAR.
5:13:47PM SOLD TO ELIGIBLE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
5:13:50PM REHABILITATED 17 ARE IN THE PROGRESS OF REBUILDING 17 HOUSES
5:13:55PM USING OUR CDBG FUNDS.
5:13:58PM WE PROVIDED FUNDING FOR NEW UNITS OF HUNDRED UNITS OF RENTAL
5:14:04PM HOUSING INCLUDING THE BEL-MAR PROPERTY.
5:14:06PM WE REHABILITATED 18 UNITS ON A PROPERTY FOR MULTIFAMILY
5:14:10PM RENTAL AS WELL.
5:14:10PM WE SERVE 349 RESIDENTS IN HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND OUR CDBG
5:14:17PM PUBLIC SERVICE DOLLARS AND PROVIDED HOUSING COUNSELING
5:14:20PM SERVICES TO 478 CLIENTS.
5:14:22PM TONIGHT, LIKE WE SAID, IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
5:14:27PM WE WILL HAVE A DEADLINE TO SUBMIT COMMENTS FOR THE CAPER.
5:14:33PM DUE DECEMBER 6.
5:14:34PM COMMENTS CAN BE SUBMITTED DIRECTLY TO ME VIA E-MAIL OR CAN
5:14:40PM BE SUBMITTED IN PERSON, IN WRITING, ACCEPT ANY COMMENTS IN
5:14:42PM ANY WAY THAT THEY ARE PROVIDED TO US.
5:14:44PM THAT'S THE INFORMATION I HAVE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR
5:14:51PM ANYONE ELSE.
5:14:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
5:14:52PM YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:14:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, GREAT WORK ON
5:14:58PM ALL THAT YOU DO.
5:14:59PM IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT REALLY ISN'T, AND THE
5:15:03PM WAY THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM USE IT IS REALLY, REALLY AMAZING.
5:15:08PM THE MANY DIFFERENT PLATES YOU KEEP SPENDING BECAUSE A LOT OF
5:15:12PM THOSE DOLLARS ARE SO SPECIFIC AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO A VERY
5:15:15PM SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
5:15:18PM YOUR TEAM JUST DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB.
5:15:21PM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
5:15:22PM >>MICHELLE BOONE: THANK YOU.
5:15:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
5:15:25PM SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
5:15:26PM ITEM NUMBER 1?
5:15:27PM I SEE NO ONE AND I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED VIRTUALLY.
5:15:32PM SO WE'LL JUST -- NO ACTION IS NEEDED, RIGHT?
5:15:35PM MOTION TO CLOSE?
5:15:37PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- WAIT, DO WE KEEP IT OPEN,
5:15:41PM MS. JOHNS?
5:15:41PM YEAH, WITHDRAW THAT.
5:15:43PM THAT'S IT.
5:15:45PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:15:46PM ITEM NUMBER 2.
5:15:51PM >> McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
5:15:55PM ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR
5:15:58PM PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION OF RICHMAN HILLSBOROUGH
5:16:01PM APARTMENTS GREEN REUSE AREA THAT IS SINGLE PARCEL
5:16:04PM APPROXIMATELY 13.42 ACRES IN SIZE, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 2302
5:16:09PM EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
5:16:10PM THE PROPERTY OWNER, RICHMAN HILLSBOROUGH APARTMENTS,
5:16:17PM SUBMITTED TO THE TAMPA REQUESTING DESIGNATION OF THE
5:16:19PM PROPERTY AS BROWNFIELD AREA AND THAT APPLICATION CONTINUES
5:16:21PM TO BE SUPPORTED BY SUCCESSOR IN INTEREST, RICHMAN EAST TAMPA
5:16:25PM MIXED INCOME LLC.
5:16:26PM THE PROPERTY OWNER PLANS TO REHABILITATE AND REDEVELOP THE
5:16:29PM SITE INTO 356 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE TO
5:16:33PM HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 120% OR LESS OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
5:16:37PM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS A FINANCIAL PARTNER IN THE PROJECT AND
5:16:42PM CONTRIBUTED $12 MILLION IN FURTHERANCE OF THE EFFORT TO MAKE
5:16:45PM MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE.
5:16:46PM DETAILS OF THE DESIGNATION HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN A DOCUMENT
5:16:49PM ENTITLED STAFF REPORT ON RICHMAN HILLSBOROUGH APARTMENTS
5:16:52PM GREEN REUSE AREA BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC
5:16:55PM REVIEW AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND ON THE PUBLIC OnBase SIDE
5:17:02PM ON OUR WEBSITE.
5:17:02PM CITY STAFF DETERMINED THAT ALL STATUTORY AND PUBLIC NOTICE
5:17:05PM REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET AND RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL
5:17:07PM APPROVE THIS DESIGNATION.
5:17:09PM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCIL WILL
5:17:11PM HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PASS A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING RICHMAN
5:17:13PM HILLSBOROUGH APARTMENT GREENERY AREA A BROWNFIELD AREA AS
5:17:17PM SPECIFIED IN THE FLORIDA BROWNFIELD REDEVELOPMENT ACT.
5:17:20PM STAFF IS AVAILABLE ON A PANELIST LINE AS IS APPLICANT'S
5:17:26PM REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT HERE IN CHAMBERS IF YOU HAVE ANY
5:17:28PM QUESTIONS.
5:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
5:17:30PM NO.
5:17:31PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
5:17:34PM NUMBER 2?
5:17:35PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:17:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
5:17:37PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:17:39PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:17:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:17:41PM AYE.
5:17:42PM THAT WAS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:17:50PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WANTS TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
5:17:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON --
5:18:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: [INAUDIBLE]
5:18:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:18:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GIVE IT UP.
5:18:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:18:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:18:12PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
5:18:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:18:14PM AYE.
5:18:14PM NOW YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
5:18:16PM ALREADY DONE.
5:18:18PM ALL RIGHT.
5:18:18PM AS LONG AS WE'RE LEGALLY FINE.
5:18:20PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:18:21PM ITEM NUMBER 3.
5:18:24PM >>McLANE EVANS: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
5:18:28PM THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
5:18:30PM PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION OF PROPERTIES GENERALLY
5:18:32PM LOCATED AT 2606 EAST 10th AVENUE.
5:18:36PM CITY OF TAMPA IS REQUESTING DESIGNATION OF THESE PROPERTIES
5:18:38PM AS BROWNFIELD AREA TO ASSIST IN THE ASSESSMENT AND
5:18:41PM REMEDIATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT MAY EXIST ON THE
5:18:44PM PROPERTY.
5:18:44PM DETAILS OF THE DESIGNATION OUTLINED IN A DOCUMENT ENTITLED
5:18:46PM STAFF REPORT ON EAST YBOR DEVELOPMENT AREA PROPOSED
5:18:49PM BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC
5:18:51PM REVIEW AT THE CITY'S CLERK WEBSITE AND OnBase.
5:18:56PM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS
5:19:00PM SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 5, 2024 AT 10:30 A.M. OR SOON
5:19:04PM THEREAFTER AS POSSIBLE, COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
5:19:06PM PASS A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING EAST YBOR DEVELOPMENT AREA AS
5:19:09PM A BROWNFIELD AREA.
5:19:10PM THIS EVENING NO ACTION IS REQUIRED BUT FOR TAKING PUBLIC
5:19:14PM COMMENT.
5:19:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:19:16PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
5:19:17PM YES.
5:19:18PM COME ON UP, SIR.
5:19:19PM ITEM NUMBER 3.
5:19:20PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:19:22PM >> HELLO.
5:19:23PM MY NAME IS MATTHEW RADECK.
5:19:24PM I HAVE A PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE EAST YBOR IN ITEM NUMBER 3
5:19:29PM HERE.
5:19:29PM I ASSUME NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN UNTIL AFTER THE SECOND
5:19:33PM HEARING, IS THAT CORRECT?
5:19:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
5:19:36PM >> SORRY I WASN'T COMPLETELY PREPARED FOR TONIGHT.
5:19:39PM BECAUSE WHEN I WENT TO PRINT OUT THE INFORMATION ON THIS
5:19:43PM THING, THIS IS WHAT I WAS GETTING.
5:19:45PM I WAS GETTING INCOMPLETE, LIKE GETTING HALF A PAGE AND
5:19:48PM EXTREMELY SMALL PRINT.
5:19:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S GET IT UP ON THE OVERHEAD.
5:19:51PM >> I WAS HAVING TO USE MY MAGNIFYING GLASS AND MY READING
5:19:56PM GLASSES TO TRY TO READ THIS THING.
5:19:59PM I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF SOMEHOW I COULD POSSIBLY GET A
5:20:04PM PRINTED COPY OF THIS REPORT.
5:20:06PM IS THAT POSSIBLE, McLANE?
5:20:09PM ALSO, I LOOKED UP THE HISTORY OF THE HOUSE, AND I COULD NOT
5:20:15PM FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF ANY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.
5:20:19PM FROM WHAT I COULD GATHER, I GOT A FEW TIDBITS OF INFORMATION
5:20:23PM ABOUT SAID POSSIBLE OLD OIL PUMP HOUSE.
5:20:30PM AND THEN ALSO TESTING WAS NOT INTENDED TO PROVIDE KNOWLEDGE
5:20:33PM OF THE TARGET ANALYSIS OR SERVE AS A SITE ASSESSMENT.
5:20:38PM AND LOW LEVELS OF ALL ITEMS TESTED FOR SINGLE ROUND OF SITE
5:20:44PM ANALYSIS IS NOT ADEQUATE AND MAY NOT PROVIDE SUFFICIENT
5:20:46PM DATA.
5:20:47PM I DO BELIEVE THEY MAY HAVE DONE A LIMITED PHASE TWO
5:20:50PM ANALYSIS, BUT I COULDN'T GET ALL THE DETAILS FROM THIS HALF
5:20:54PM A PAGE AND SMALL PRINT THAT I HAVE HERE.
5:20:57PM ALL I'M REQUESTING IS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ATTEND THE SECOND
5:21:02PM MEETING AND HOPEFULLY I CAN GET A BETTER PRINTED COPY AND
5:21:06PM UNDERSTAND AND I'LL BE MORE PREPARED FOR NEXT MEETING.
5:21:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE
5:21:11PM THE GENTLEMAN?
5:21:16PM >>McLANE EVANS: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE REPORT ITSELF FROM
5:21:20PM THE STAFF REPORT?
5:21:21PM >> I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE -- IT IS THE ONE YOU E-MAILED ME.
5:21:25PM AND I DIDN'T GET AROUND TO OPENING IT UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE
5:21:28PM TO DO SOMETHING, CONTACT YOU BACK.
5:21:30PM >>McLANE EVANS: I BELIEVE HE'S SPEAKING ABOUT A PUBLIC
5:21:35PM RECORDS REQUEST THAT I RESPONDED TO AT HIS REQUEST, WHICH IS
5:21:39PM THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF A STUDY THAT THE
5:21:43PM PROPERTY OWNER DID ON THEIR SITE.
5:21:45PM MY CONCERN IS TO PRINT SOMETHING OF THAT VOLUME FOR ONE
5:21:49PM INDIVIDUAL OF THE PUBLIC, WE MAY HAVE TO DO THAT FOR ALL
5:21:52PM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
5:21:53PM I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO YOUR BEST TO REVIEW IT IN A
5:21:59PM DIGITAL FORMAT.
5:22:01PM >> OKAY.
5:22:01PM I'LL TRY ONE MORE TIME AND THEN I'LL CONTACT YOU BACK WITH
5:22:04PM E-MAIL IF I CAN'T GET IT DONE.
5:22:08PM IS THAT OKAY?
5:22:09PM >>McLANE EVANS: CERTAINLY.
5:22:10PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
5:22:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
5:22:12PM ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 3?
5:22:14PM NO.
5:22:16PM ANYTHING ELSE -- DO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR LEAVE IT
5:22:22PM OPEN?
5:22:26PM >>McLANE EVANS: YOU CAN CLOSE TODAY.
5:22:27PM THE SECOND ONE IS IT'S ONLY STAND-ALONE HEARING.
5:22:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION
5:22:31PM TO CLOSE.
5:22:32PM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
5:22:32PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:22:33PM AYE.
5:22:34PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:22:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT GOING TO BE ADVERTISED?
5:22:40PM COULD BE ANNOUNCED.
5:22:42PM >>THE CLERK: SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HEARD ON DECEMBER
5:22:44PM 5, 2024, AT 10:30 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY
5:22:49PM BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:22:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
5:22:53PM ITEM NUMBER 4.
5:22:54PM >>McLANE EVANS: GOOD EVENING.
5:22:56PM McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
5:23:00PM ITEM NUMBER 4 IS A BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION.
5:23:04PM THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
5:23:07PM PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION OF A PROPERTY GENERALLY
5:23:10PM LOCATED AT 810 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
5:23:12PM CITY IS REQUESTING DESIGNATION OF THIS PROPERTY AS A
5:23:14PM BROWNFIELD AREA TO ASSIST IN ITS ASSESSMENT OR REMEDIATION
5:23:17PM OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT MAY EXIST ON THE PROPERTY.
5:23:20PM DETAILS OF THE DESIGNATION HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN A DOCUMENT
5:23:22PM ENTITLED STAFF REPORT CHANNELSIDE DRIVE PARK PROPOSED
5:23:25PM BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC
5:23:28PM REVIEW IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND IN OnBase.
5:23:31PM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS
5:23:34PM SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 5, 2024, AT 10:30 A.M. OR SOON
5:23:37PM THEREAFTER AS POSSIBLE, CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN
5:23:38PM OPPORTUNITY TO PASS A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING 810 CHANNELSIDE
5:23:41PM DRIVE AS A BROWNFIELD AREA.
5:23:44PM THIS IS A CITY-OWNED PROPERTY PLANNED TO BE MADE INTO A
5:23:47PM PARK.
5:23:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:23:49PM ANY QUESTIONS?
5:23:49PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4?
5:23:52PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:23:56PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:23:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:23:58PM AYE.
5:23:58PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:24:00PM YES, MA'AM.
5:24:00PM >>THE CLERK: SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HEARD ON DECEMBER
5:24:03PM 5, 2024, AT 10:30 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL
5:24:07PM CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:24:11PM THANK YOU.
5:24:12PM ITEM NUMBER 5.
5:24:21PM >> GOOD EVENING.
5:24:22PM EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
5:24:25PM THIS IS TA/CPA 24-08 LOCATED AT 3901 AND 3905 NORTH OLA
5:24:30PM AVENUE AND 3904 NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE.
5:24:34PM THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED SMALL-SCALE AMENDMENT.
5:24:38PM IT IS APPROXIMATELY 0.51 ACRES.
5:24:40PM AND THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RESIDENTIAL
5:24:44PM 20.
5:24:44PM THIS IS A GENERAL LOCATION ON THE MAP OF THE SITE.
5:24:49PM IT IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, THE
5:24:52PM TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
5:24:54PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:24:54PM THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:24:59PM IT IS OUTLINED HERE IN PINK.
5:25:01PM AND YOU CAN SEE SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH
5:25:08PM SCATTERED NONCONFORMING DUPLEXES THAT ARE MOSTLY LOCATED
5:25:13PM ALONG NORTH TAMPA STREET.
5:25:15PM ALONG DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, WHICH IS FURTHER
5:25:17PM NORTH TO THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE WHICH IS
5:25:24PM -- SORRY, NORTH TAMPA STREET, EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A
5:25:26PM MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL USES.
5:25:30PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE.
5:25:36PM AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS BEHIND THE PHOTOGRAPHER.
5:25:42PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE.
5:25:45PM SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE LEFT.
5:25:46PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON WEST VIRGINIA AVENUE.
5:25:51PM THE SITE IS OUT OF FRAME BEHIND THE PHOTOGRAPHER.
5:25:55PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON NORTH OLA AVENUE AT THE SITE ACROSS
5:26:00PM THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:26:02PM THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE CORNER OF NORTH
5:26:08PM OLA AVENUE AND WEST VIRGINIA.
5:26:10PM AND THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE, VACANT LOT ON THE
5:26:16PM LEFT AND ADJACENT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE RIGHT.
5:26:19PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:26:22PM THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
5:26:24PM OUTLINED HERE IN BLACK AND REPRESENTED WITH THE ORANGISH
5:26:28PM COLOR WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION WHICH IS TO
5:26:30PM THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:26:34PM FURTHER NORTH ALONG MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD IS THE
5:26:37PM CMU 35 DESIGNATION IN THE PINK COLOR AND CC-35 DESIGNATION
5:26:42PM IN THE RED.
5:26:43PM AND FURTHER SOUTHWEST HERE IN THE R/OS DESIGNATION IS CALVIN
5:26:51PM TAYLOR PARK AND WOODLAWN CEMETERY.
5:26:53PM THIS IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
5:26:57PM YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED HERE REPRESENTED
5:27:00PM WITH THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION.
5:27:01PM THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE SITE WOULD ALLOW HIGHER
5:27:10PM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND GREATER COMMERCIAL INTENSITY.
5:27:12PM UNDER THE CURRENT DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL 20, THE SITE
5:27:15PM CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR FIVE DWELLING UNITS OR SLIGHTLY OVER
5:27:18PM 7,700 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES IF LOCATIONAL
5:27:23PM CRITERIA IS MET.
5:27:24PM UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION, THE SITE COULD BE
5:27:28PM CONSIDERED FOR 10 DWELLING UNITS OR SLIGHTLY OVER 11,000
5:27:31PM SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES IF LOCATIONAL CRITERIA IS
5:27:35PM MET.
5:27:35PM THIS WENT OUT FOR AGENCY REVIEW.
5:27:41PM THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES OBJECT TO THE REQUEST, AND THEY ARE
5:27:44PM IN CHAMBERS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
5:27:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
5:27:47PM >>EMILY PHELAN: I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE.
5:27:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY.
5:27:57PM WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 9:00 JUST CASE AFTER CASE AFTER CASE.
5:28:00PM SORRY.
5:28:01PM >>EMILY PHELAN: IT'S ALL GOOD.
5:28:02PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH
5:28:05PM TWO MAIN AREAS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
5:28:07PM FIRST, THERE ARE SEVERAL POLICIES DEALING WITH OVERALL
5:28:11PM COMPATIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
5:28:13PM PATTERN.
5:28:14PM STAFF FOUND THAT THOUGH THERE ARE SOME VERY SCATTERED
5:28:18PM DUPLEXES WITHIN THE AREA, MANY OF THESE ARE NONCONFORMING
5:28:21PM AND PREDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
5:28:22PM ADDITIONALLY, THE TRANSITIONS IN DENSITY, THEY FOUND THAT
5:28:27PM THE INTRODUCTION OF THE R-20 COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY R-10
5:28:31PM WOULD NOT FURTHER LAND USE POLICIES 2.1.1, 9.6.1, 9.6.3,
5:28:38PM 9.6.4 AND NEIGHBORHOOD POLICY 1.3.10.
5:28:44PM ADDITIONALLY, REQUEST ALSO FOUND INCONSISTENT WITH
5:28:45PM NEIGHBORHOOD POLICY 1.1.2, WHICH SEEKS TO PROVIDE FOR
5:28:49PM LOGICAL DENSITY TRANSITIONS IN ESTABLISHED SINGLE-FAMILY
5:28:52PM DETACHED NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT THE REQUEST FOR R-20 IN THIS
5:28:55PM LOCATION WOULD NOT PROVIDE FOR THE LOGICAL TRANSITION IN
5:28:58PM DENSITY.
5:28:58PM WITH THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
5:29:01PM RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED MAP AMENDMENT BE FOUND
5:29:04PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE
5:29:07PM TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
5:29:07PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:29:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:29:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:29:12PM CAN YOU PUT THE POSSIBLE CHANGE MAP UP AGAIN?
5:29:17PM WHERE THE ORANGE GOES TO BROWN.
5:29:23PM I'M CURIOUS WHY THEY SAY -- WHILE THE PLANNING COMMISSION
5:29:28PM FOUND IT NOT CONSISTENT, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY SURROUNDING
5:29:33PM WHEN LITERALLY A BLOCK AWAY YOU HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL 20,
5:29:38PM WHICH IS THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL 20 IN THE AREA.
5:29:41PM >>EMILY PHELAN: RIGHT.
5:29:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT.
5:29:44PM >>EMILY PHELAN: THIS IS ALSO ON A CORRIDOR THAT IS CLOSER TO
5:29:49PM A HIGHER DENSITY, AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE A LOGICAL
5:29:52PM TRANSITION FROM THE CC-35 TO THE R-20 AND TO THE DETACHED
5:29:57PM SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:29:58PM SO THAT PROVIDED THAT LOGICAL TRANSITION TO THAT.
5:30:00PM AND WITHIN THE R-20 HERE, ARE WHERE SOME DUPLEXES ARE
5:30:06PM EXISTING.
5:30:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:30:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
5:30:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:30:10PM ALL RIGHT.
5:30:14PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM?
5:30:16PM >> YES.
5:30:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
5:30:18PM COME ON UP, SIR.
5:30:19PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:30:21PM >> GOOD EVENING.
5:30:22PM MY NAME IS MATT SIENK.
5:30:24PM ADDRESS IS 410 WEST PARK AVENUE.
5:30:26PM I DO THINK MY SLIDES ARE LOADED SOMEWHERE ON HERE.
5:30:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY'LL COME UP IN JUST A SECOND.
5:30:42PM >> IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR PACKETS.
5:30:46PM MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR YOU IN CASE IT DOESN'T SHOW UP.
5:30:49PM WE'RE GOOD.
5:31:02PM WE'RE GOING TODAY.
5:31:03PM VERY COOL.
5:31:04PM MY NAME IS MATT SIENK.
5:31:07PM YOU HAVE SEEN ME IN THE PAST IN THIS SAME ROOM.
5:31:11PM I'M HERE TODAY LUCKILY TO PRESENT CPA 24-08.
5:31:16PM THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO PROVIDE OBTAINABLE,
5:31:19PM COMPATIBLE, MISSING MIDDLE OPTIONS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS, WHICH
5:31:22PM IS SOMETHING I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS
5:31:26PM ALREADY.
5:31:27PM LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON IT, I'VE BEEN A TAMPA HEIGHTS
5:31:29PM RESIDENT FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
5:31:30PM I'M ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND MY OFFICE IS LITERALLY
5:31:34PM BLOCKS AWAY FROM THIS PROJECT.
5:31:36PM BECAUSE I SPEND SO MUCH TIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN
5:31:38PM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I'VE BECOME KIND OF AN EXPERT ON WHAT
5:31:42PM NEIGHBORS ARE LOOKING FOR, WHAT THIS AREA IS TRYING TO
5:31:44PM ACHIEVE LONG TERM.
5:31:46PM AND I HAVE A PROVEN RECORD OF MAINTAINING AND PRESERVING
5:31:50PM COHESIVE COMMUNITIES.
5:31:51PM THERE IS A PHOTO RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE
5:31:54PM HOUSES I BUILT.
5:31:55PM YOU WOULD BE HARD-PRESSED TO PICK IT OUT BETWEEN THE TWO
5:31:58PM 1930s BUNGALOWS ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
5:32:01PM BECAUSE MY COMMITMENT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS WE MAKE SURE
5:32:04PM THINGS ARE CONSISTENT AND FEELS LIKE TAMPA HEIGHTS.
5:32:07PM ADDITIONALLY, YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ME IN THE CAPACITY OF TAMPA
5:32:10PM CIVIC HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION.
5:32:11PM I'M ALSO ON THE CAC FOR THE TPO AND I'M THE LAND USE
5:32:15PM COMMITTEE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
5:32:17PM IN THOSE CAPACITIES, I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF MEETING
5:32:22PM NEIGHBORS AND ALSO LOSING NEIGHBORS WHO ARE GETTING PRICED
5:32:24PM OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:32:26PM WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY IS GREAT, WHICH IS WE'RE
5:32:29PM GETTING MORE RENTAL UNITS, MORE HIGHER DENSITY APARTMENTS,
5:32:32PM BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PATH FOR OWNERSHIP.
5:32:36PM WE KNOW THAT OWNERSHIP IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR LONG-TERM
5:32:38PM FAMILY WEALTH AND TRANSFERRING OF WEALTH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE
5:32:41PM ANY GOOD OPTIONS FOR THAT GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
5:32:43PM SO MY SOLUTION WITH THIS IS TO LOOK FOR MISSING MIDDLE
5:32:48PM OPTIONS.
5:32:48PM YOU ARE SUPER AWARE THAT TAMPA HEIGHTS IS SPECIAL.
5:32:53PM IT'S REALLY ECLECTIC.
5:32:54PM IT HAS FAMILIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO STAY THERE.
5:32:58PM AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION AND COME TO YOU GUYS
5:33:01PM WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE MEANINGFUL THAN COMPLAINING,
5:33:03PM RIGHT?
5:33:03PM YOU GUYS HEAR ABOUT HOUSING PROBLEMS, BUT HOW CAN ME AS A
5:33:07PM NEIGHBOR HELP THAT SOLUTION?
5:33:08PM SO THE MISSING MIDDLE IS A GREAT SOLUTION.
5:33:11PM IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, R-20 IS NECESSARY BECAUSE R-10
5:33:15PM WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO GET THE DENSITY TO DO DUPLEXES.
5:33:18PM RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT'S SET IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO BUILD
5:33:23PM DUPLEXES ON R-10.
5:33:25PM JUST ISN'T POSSIBLE.
5:33:26PM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE LITTLE HUNG UP ON ARE DESIGN
5:33:30PM DETAILS DURING THE REZONING PROCESS.
5:33:31PM I INTENTIONALLY AM NOT DOING THE REZONING AND THE COMP PLAN
5:33:36PM AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE OF THE REQUEST OF THIS COUNCIL
5:33:39PM BEFORE, WHICH IS LIKE DO THEM SEPARATELY.
5:33:41PM IT DOES GET CONFUSING.
5:33:43PM I'VE ALSO HAD GREAT SUPPORT FROM IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS.
5:33:45PM THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY TAMPA HEIGHTS IS TAMPA
5:33:48PM HEIGHTS.
5:33:49PM YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LEE'S GROCERY, THE BEST PLACE FOR BEER,
5:33:53PM WINGS, SALAD IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:33:55PM NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, RIGHT?
5:33:56PM WE HAVE OUR CIVIC ASSOCIATION IN A REFURBISHED CHURCH.
5:34:00PM WE HAVE DUPLEXES, QUADPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, 8-PLEXES, LIKE, YOU
5:34:04PM NAME IT, TAMPA HEIGHTS HAS IT ALL OVER THE PLACE.
5:34:07PM IT'S ALSO DRIVEN THE DIVERSITY AND THE FUN WALK YOU CAN HAVE
5:34:13PM IN TAMPA HEIGHTS BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT.
5:34:16PM HERE IS A SLIDE THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT, WHICH IS FAMILIES
5:34:22PM ARE STRUGGLING.
5:34:23PM THE COST OF HOUSING IS GOING UP, BUT OUR INCOMES ARE NOT.
5:34:26PM SO A KEY PILLAR OF THE AMERICAN DREAM IS OWNING A HOME BUT
5:34:30PM INCREASINGLY IT'S OUT OF REACH OF PEOPLE.
5:34:31PM WHAT DO WE DO AND WHAT POLICIES CAN WE HAVE TO FIX THAT
5:34:35PM PROBLEM?
5:34:35PM I FEEL LIKE THE MISSING MIDDLE IS A GREAT SOLUTION FOR THAT.
5:34:40PM WHAT IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE IS SMALLER SCALE TOWNHOMES AND
5:34:42PM MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE
5:34:45PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:34:46PM MISSING MIDDLE ALSO DOES A LOT OF THINGS FOR TAMPA BECAUSE
5:34:50PM IT ADDRESSES THE HOUSING SHORTAGE THAT WE HEAR ABOUT IN
5:34:53PM EVERY MEETING WE HAVE BUT ALSO REDUCES URBAN SPRAWL.
5:34:55PM IT INCREASES DENSITY TO DRIVE OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
5:34:59PM INITIATIVES, SO WE'RE GETTING THOSE CLOSER TO THE CITY.
5:35:01PM IT'S ACTUALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF TAMPA
5:35:04PM HEIGHTS.
5:35:05PM RIGHT NOW, R-10 DOES NOT ALLOW FOR MISSING MIDDLE.
5:35:10PM ON THE FIVE HISTORIC LOTS THAT WE HAVE, WE COULD ACTUALLY
5:35:14PM BUILD FIVE HOMES.
5:35:15PM BUT THE FUN THING ABOUT THAT IS WE COULD BUILD
5:35:18PM 4,000-SQUARE-FOOT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
5:35:20PM THE BIG MANSION, RIGHT?
5:35:21PM THE 900 TO $1.2 MILLION HOUSES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR
5:35:25PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:35:26PM IF WE GO TO R-20, WE CAN HAVE A SIMILAR, ACTUALLY SMALLER
5:35:30PM FOOTPRINT AND GET TWO UNITS IN THE FORM OF A DUPLEX.
5:35:33PM IF THIS REQUEST IS APPROVED, A REZONING OTHER PUBLIC
5:35:37PM HEARINGS WILL BE REQUIRED BECAUSE I WANT TO COMPLY WITH THE
5:35:40PM TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY AND GET THE DESIGN RIGHT FOR THE
5:35:42PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:35:43PM WHAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING ABOUT THIS, AND IT WASN'T SHOWN
5:35:46PM ON THE OTHER MAPS, IS TRANSITION IN DENSITY.
5:35:51PM ON THE EAST SIDE OF FLORIDA AVENUE, THEY WERE GIVEN THE
5:35:56PM PRIVILEGE TO TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL TO R-10, FROM R-20
5:36:02PM TO R-10, RIGHT.
5:36:04PM FOR SOME REASON THAT STOPPED ON THE WEST SIDE OF TAMPA
5:36:08PM STREET AND FLORIDA.
5:36:09PM WE DON'T KNOW WHY.
5:36:10PM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS ESSENTIALLY THERE IS NO
5:36:13PM TRANSITION BECAUSE IT WASN'T GIVEN TO THIS AREA, AND IT'S
5:36:17PM INCONSISTENT FOR THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THAT MAKES
5:36:19PM SENSE.
5:36:20PM THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS SUPER IMPORTANT IS THAT IT
5:36:24PM DOESN'T SHOW UP WELL ON THE MAP, BUT TAMPA STREET IS AN
5:36:27PM ARTERIAL ROAD.
5:36:29PM PEOPLE ARE GOING 60 MILES AN HOUR.
5:36:31PM IT FEELS LIKE A HIGHWAY SOMETIMES, RIGHT?
5:36:33PM BUT ON THE MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST A SMALL COLLECTOR
5:36:37PM STREET, BUT IT'S NOT.
5:36:38PM SO IN LOGICAL SENSE, WE WOULD BE GOING FROM COMMERCIAL TO
5:36:42PM R-20 TO R-10 AND STEPPING DOWN DENSITY JUST ON THIS SIDE OF
5:36:47PM IT, LIKE IT'S GIVEN ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
5:36:50PM THE THING TO TAKE NOTICE OF, THESE LITTLE STARS.
5:36:52PM THESE LITTLE STARS ARE LEGAL NONCONFORMING DUPLEXES AND
5:36:56PM TRIPLEXES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:36:58PM THEY ARE ALREADY THERE.
5:37:00PM WE ALREADY HAVE THAT.
5:37:01PM SO KIND OF THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THAT, YOU LOOK ON THE
5:37:06PM RIGHT-HAND PHOTO, THIS IS THE AREA THAT I THINK LOGICALLY
5:37:09PM WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE R-20 DENSITY VERSUS THE R-10.
5:37:13PM COMPATIBILITY ON PAPER VERSUS COMPATIBILITY IN REAL LIFE,
5:37:18PM LIKE, THIS IS A HUGE THING FOR US.
5:37:20PM TAMPA HEIGHTS IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL COMMUNITY, LIKE
5:37:23PM WE'RE DIVERSE, SUPER ECLECTIC, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY IS
5:37:28PM OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, FAR BEFORE THEY HAD PLANNING,
5:37:31PM ZONING, ANY OF THOSE THINGS EXISTED.
5:37:33PM SO THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP KIND OF IGNORES THESE
5:37:36PM LEGAL NONCONFORMINGS THAT GIVE OUR COMMUNITY THE STYLE AND
5:37:41PM UNIQUENESS THAT I PERSONALLY LOVE.
5:37:43PM SO EXAMPLES OF LEGAL NONCONFORMING JUST IN A COUPLE OF
5:37:48PM BLOCKS I FOUND 8.
5:37:50PM IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THERE'S OVER 20.
5:37:54PM ONE OF THOSE IS A HOSTEL WITH 12 ROOMS.
5:37:59PM TO SAY IN THIS AREA IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE OR NOT CONSISTENT, I
5:38:01PM DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY TRUE.
5:38:03PM IT'S JUST NOT CONSISTENT ON PAPER.
5:38:04PM SO HERE IS AN EXAMPLE -- HERE ARE EXAMPLES A COUPLE OF
5:38:10PM BLOCKS.
5:38:10PM THIS IS A FOURPLEX, A TRIPLEX, ANOTHER FOURPLEX, TRIPLEX,
5:38:15PM 8-PLEX UP THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
5:38:20PM DUPLEX, ANOTHER QUAD.
5:38:25PM THESE ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
5:38:27PM NEEDS AND RELIED ON FOREVER.
5:38:28PM HERE IS GRAHAM'S PLACE.
5:38:30PM IT IS A 12 ROOM HOSTEL IN THE MIDDLE.
5:38:33PM THIS IS ON THE SAME STREET.
5:38:34PM THIS IS ON OLA.
5:38:36PM IT IS IN THE SAME LOCATION.
5:38:37PM BUT THESE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD EXAMPLES OF HOW DIVERSE OUR
5:38:43PM NEIGHBORHOODS ARE.
5:38:43PM THESE ALREADY EXIST.
5:38:45PM BASICALLY, WE HAD MISSING MIDDLE BEFORE IT WAS TRENDING.
5:38:48PM MISSING MIDDLE EXISTED FOR A LONG TIME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:38:53PM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF NEW MISSING MIDDLE IN THE
5:38:55PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:38:55PM THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS HIGHLAND.
5:38:57PM THAT'S ABOUT 15 BLOCKS SOUTH.
5:38:59PM BUT THAT'S CLOSER TO COLUMBUS AND THEY GIVE THEM R-20 DOWN
5:39:03PM THERE.
5:39:03PM WE DON'T HAVE R-10 BY MARTIN LUTHER KING, WHICH I DON'T
5:39:07PM QUITE UNDERSTAND BASED ON TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
5:39:09PM AND THEN THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS ACTUALLY ON COLUMBUS, AND
5:39:12PM THAT IS A DUPLEX IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
5:39:16PM ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD BE MISSING
5:39:18PM MIDDLE THAT I FIND RELATIVELY CONSISTENT WITH THIS PROJECT
5:39:22PM ARE THESE TWO.
5:39:25PM I INCLUDED A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT LAND USE CODES IN HERE
5:39:32PM FOR YOU GUYS.
5:39:32PM I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS
5:39:35PM KNOW THEM, BUT THERE ARE REALLY GOOD ONES TALKING ABOUT HOW
5:39:38PM THIS WORKS AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH WHAT
5:39:41PM IT ALREADY IS, A COOL, ECLECTIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:39:44PM ONE THING THAT I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR IS I HAD THE ABILITY
5:39:49PM TO WORK WITH THIS COUNCIL AND STAFF AND BRIAN SEEL FOR THE
5:39:55PM TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY DISTRICT.
5:39:56PM AND BASICALLY THE TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY DISTRICT WAS
5:39:59PM DESIGNED TO CREATE MORE EQUITABLE, DIVERSE, AND SUSTAINABLE
5:40:02PM LIVING ENVIRONMENTS THAT CAN BETTER ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF
5:40:04PM OUR RESIDENTS.
5:40:05PM THIS WAS FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND ADOPTED IN
5:40:07PM 2023.
5:40:08PM THIS IS THE NEXT STEP.
5:40:12PM SO ONCE WE GET COMP PLAN AMENDED, I'M BACK IN FRONT WORKING
5:40:15PM ON DESIGN FOR THE REZONING.
5:40:17PM ADDITIONALLY, I REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:40:21PM I'M ALWAYS AROUND SO I ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT I'M INCLUDING
5:40:24PM PEOPLE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS.
5:40:25PM THE LAND USE COMMITTEE FOR THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE
5:40:29PM TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION BOARD, YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE
5:40:33PM BULLET, PROVIDED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT.
5:40:35PM THE FUN THING IS, SO DID THE NEIGHBORS.
5:40:39PM EVERY CHECK BOX YOU'LL SEE IN YELLOW, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED
5:40:42PM SITE.
5:40:43PM THESE ARE ALL THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS THAT ARE LIKE GREAT,
5:40:47PM LIKE, LET'S DO THIS.
5:40:48PM THAT HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE PROJECT.
5:40:51PM SO IN CLOSING, I BELIEVE THAT R-20 IS THE APPROPRIATE
5:40:56PM TRANSITION IN THIS LOCATION.
5:40:58PM THE R-20 DOES NOT SET A PRECEDENT.
5:41:00PM COMP PLANS, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, ARE UNIQUE AND DONE CASE BY
5:41:04PM CASE.
5:41:05PM JUST BECAUSE THIS GOES DOESN'T MEAN THE NEXT ONE MAKES
5:41:08PM SENSE.
5:41:08PM I ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY INTENTION OF SEEKING ANY PARKING
5:41:11PM WAIVERS.
5:41:11PM AND ANY CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE OR TRAFFIC OR PARKING, THAT'S
5:41:15PM GOING TO BE HANDLED THROUGH THE ZONING PART OF THIS.
5:41:18PM GO BACK THROUGH ZONING, WE CAN HANDLE ALL THOSE CONCERNS
5:41:21PM WITH NEIGHBORS.
5:41:22PM DO I BELIEVE THAT THE R-20 IS -- I DO BELIEVE R-20 IS
5:41:27PM CONSISTENT AND VALUES WILL NOT BE HURT BY THIS.
5:41:29PM I AM PERSONALLY COMMITTED TO PHYSICAL COMPATIBILITY THROUGH
5:41:32PM THE MASSING AND ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL ON THIS PROJECT.
5:41:35PM SO IN FINAL PHASE FOR YOU, MY REQUEST TODAY IS THAT WE FIND
5:41:43PM CPA 24-08 CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BASED
5:41:46PM ON THE FOLLOWING POLICIES.
5:41:48PM THANK YOU GUYS.
5:41:50PM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
5:41:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
5:41:54PM IS ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
5:41:58PM COME ON UP ONE BY ONE.
5:42:00PM WE'LL TAKE YOU ONE AT A TIME.
5:42:01PM JUST PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:42:03PM FEEL FREE TO COME ON UP.
5:42:05PM YES, MA'AM.
5:42:09PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:42:11PM >> MY NAME IS TINA DALLAS.
5:42:13PM I LIVE WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
5:42:18PM HELLO EVERYONE, BY THE WAY.
5:42:19PM SORRY.
5:42:20PM I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.
5:42:21PM I LIVE WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
5:42:25PM MATT HAS NEVER COME TO ME OR THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ALSO LIVE
5:42:30PM IN THE AREA.
5:42:34PM WE DO OBJECT TO THIS PROPOSAL.
5:42:37PM HIS PLAN IS TO BUILD DUPLEXES.
5:42:44PM MY QUESTION IS, RESIDENTIAL 10 SAYS LIMITED TOWNHOMES AND
5:42:47PM DUPLEXES.
5:42:48PM SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE NEEDS THIS PROPOSAL.
5:42:54PM THE OTHER THING IS, THIS OPENS US UP TO HAVE CONDOMINIUMS
5:43:01PM AND WHAT VALUE DOES THAT BRING TO OUR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME
5:43:04PM AREA.
5:43:07PM WITHIN BLOCKS OF MY PARTICULAR HOUSE, IT'S MOSTLY SINGLE
5:43:12PM HOMES, AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I PURCHASED AND MOVED TO
5:43:15PM THE AREA.
5:43:18PM SORRY.
5:43:21PM I HAVE A LOT OF POINTS.
5:43:22PM I FEEL THAT THIS PROPOSAL THREATENS THE CHARACTER OF THE
5:43:29PM COMMUNITY.
5:43:30PM I LIVE IN A 1916 BUNGALOW.
5:43:33PM AND I MOVED HERE FOR THE CHARACTER OF THIS COMMUNITY.
5:43:38PM ALSO, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE AS WELL.
5:43:42PM THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE DRAINAGE AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
5:43:45PM THIS JUST SETS A PRECEDENT TO CAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO
5:43:51PM BECOME A LOT MORE DENSE AND POSSIBLY HAVE CONDOMINIUMS IN
5:43:57PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
5:43:58PM IT JUST DOESN'T FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:44:00PM THANK YOU.
5:44:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:44:03PM YES, SIR.
5:44:05PM COME ON UP.
5:44:05PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:44:07PM >> MY NAME IS MATT COHEN.
5:44:09PM 207 WEST VIRGINIA.
5:44:12PM SAW MY HOUSE EARLIER.
5:44:13PM I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS TO THE EAST.
5:44:15PM I THINK WHEN YOU GET NEW NEIGHBORS, IT'S KIND OF A ROLL OF
5:44:19PM THE DICE.
5:44:20PM I'D RATHER ROLL IT ONCE THAN WITH HOWEVER MANY UNITS HE
5:44:24PM PLANS ON BUILDING.
5:44:25PM I ALSO HEARD COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ASK ABOUT THE PROPERTIES
5:44:31PM THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED FOR R-20.
5:44:32PM I KNOW THAT THE ONES ALONG VIRGINIA ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES,
5:44:36PM EVEN IF THEY ARE CURRENTLY ZONED AT R-20.
5:44:39PM I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THOSE LOOK LIKE R-20 PROPERTIES AT
5:44:43PM THE MOMENT.
5:44:43PM I DON'T HAVE PICTURES.
5:44:45PM BUT I KNOW THE ONES THAT ARE ON VIRGINIA.
5:44:47PM THAT IS THE CASE.
5:44:49PM MR. SINK MENTIONED ALSO THAT PEOPLE FLY THROUGH THAT
5:44:55PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:44:56PM IT'S CONSTANTLY USED AS CUT-THRU.
5:44:59PM PEOPLE GET OFF OF MLK AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
5:45:02PM THIS JUST FURTHER CONGESTS IT.
5:45:05PM WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO, THE POWER POLE ON THE PROPERTY IN
5:45:09PM QUESTION WAS KNOCKED OVER DURING AN ACCIDENT.
5:45:11PM I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED MORE CARS ON THE STREET.
5:45:14PM ON OUR BLOCK, THREE UNDER ONE.
5:45:18PM I WOULD RATHER NOT FURTHER PUT THEM AT RISK.
5:45:21PM THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
5:45:22PM THANKS.
5:45:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:45:23PM YES, MA'AM.
5:45:25PM COME ON UP.
5:45:25PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:45:29PM >> HELLO.
5:45:29PM DANA LAZARUS.
5:45:34PM I BIKED ALL THE WAY HERE FROM MY HOUSE BECAUSE I AM
5:45:38PM PASSIONATE ABOUT PROVIDING MORE HOUSING FOR THE CITY OF
5:45:39PM TAMPA AND ALSO BECAUSE IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
5:45:43PM I'M HONESTLY REALLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THE CITY STAFF
5:45:47PM FOUND IT INCONSISTENT WHEN IT'S A BLOCK AWAY FROM SO MANY
5:45:53PM THINGS, FROM ALREADY LIKE UPZONED AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
5:45:56PM THIS ZONING DESIGNATION THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS ONE JUMP
5:46:04PM UP FROM THE ONE THAT IS EXISTING, ONE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR UP,
5:46:07PM IF YOU WILL.
5:46:08PM THIS LOCATION IS LESS THAN A MILE FROM A GROCERY STORE.
5:46:11PM THERE ARE SEVERAL SCHOOLS IN LESS THAN A MILE RADIUS.
5:46:15PM I BIKED HERE TONIGHT FROM A LOCATION, MY HOUSE IS ABOUT THE
5:46:18PM SAME DISTANCE AS THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY.
5:46:22PM IT'S ALSO RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROUTE 1 BUS LINE, WHICH IS SOON
5:46:28PM TO BE FARE FREE.
5:46:29PM THIS IS A GREAT SPACE FOR US BE PROVIDING MORE HOUSING.
5:46:35PM I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE NUMBERS ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE
5:46:41PM HOUSING WE REALLY NEED IN TAMPA.
5:46:43PM A FRIEND OF MINE, I WAS TALKING TO LITERALLY TODAY, WAS
5:46:47PM TELLING ME HOW THE YOUTH THAT GO TO TAMPA HEIGHTS JUNIOR
5:46:51PM CIVIC ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR AFTER-SCHOOL CARE, THAT SHE'S
5:46:54PM WORKED WITH OVER THE YEARS HAVE ALL MOVED OUT.
5:46:58PM THERE'S BEEN A 100% DISPLACEMENT RATE OF THOSE
5:47:03PM UNDERPRIVILEGED FAMILIES IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
5:47:05PM SO I APPLAUD THE SMALL-SCALE DEVELOPER FOR TAKING A RISK TO
5:47:10PM GIVE TAMPA MORE HOUSING.
5:47:12PM SMALL-SCALE DEVELOPMENT ISN'T EASY.
5:47:14PM IT MIGHT BE THE HARDEST KIND OF DEVELOPMENT TO ACCOMPLISH
5:47:17PM BECAUSE OF ALL THE LITTLE RULES LIKE SETBACKS AND BUFFERS
5:47:20PM AND PARKING THAT GET IN THE WAY.
5:47:23PM THIS IS ONLY FIVE ADDITIONAL UNITS.
5:47:26PM THAT'S NOT THAT MUCH PARKING.
5:47:28PM LIKE I SAID, THEY CAN WALK, THEY CAN BIKE.
5:47:32PM AND SO IT'S SMALL-SCALE DEVELOPMENT REALLY MAKES A
5:47:36PM DIFFERENCE.
5:47:37PM IT REALLY DOES PROVIDE THAT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THAT WE
5:47:39PM DESPERATELY NEED IN TAMPA.
5:47:40PM ONE THING THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT, YES,
5:47:46PM GENTRIFICATION IS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM BUT EXCLUSION THROUGH
5:47:49PM SINGLE-FAMILY ONLY ZONING IN MY OPINION IS WORSE.
5:47:53PM RATHER THAN PROVIDING MORE HOUSING TYPES FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T
5:47:56PM AFFORD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN THIS CITY, IN THIS MARKET,
5:48:00PM YOU'RE GOING TO FAVOR PRIVILEGED SINGLE-FAMILY HOMEOWNERS
5:48:03PM SITTING THERE WATCHING THE RESALE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES GO UP
5:48:06PM AND UP, WHY?
5:48:08PM IS THAT YOUR JOB?
5:48:09PM SORRY.
5:48:10PM I PROMISE THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES IS GOING TO BE OKAY,
5:48:13PM ESPECIALLY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:48:14PM SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT PROVIDING MORE HOUSING, MORE HOUSING
5:48:17PM TYPES FOR THOSE WHO REALLY NEED IT, RENTERS AND PEOPLE WHO
5:48:21PM NEED THE SMALLER SCALE DEVELOPMENT.
5:48:22PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
5:48:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:48:24PM YES, SIR.
5:48:25PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:48:28PM >> GOOD EVENING.
5:48:29PM NATHAN HAGAN.
5:48:30PM I'M HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON MY POINT OF VIEW ON THE
5:48:35PM SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT.
5:48:36PM WHEN I MOVED BACK TO TAMPA, I DON'T KNOW, SIX YEARS AGO, I
5:48:42PM LIVED IN SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ABOUT FIVE BLOCKS NORTH OF
5:48:47PM HERE.
5:48:47PM WHEN I LEFT THAT HOUSE, IT WAS BECAUSE I COULDN'T AFFORD TO
5:48:52PM LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THAT TIME AND BECAUSE I DIDN'T
5:48:55PM LIKE THE HOUSING OPTIONS THAT EXISTED FOR ME THEN.
5:48:57PM IF THESE TYPES OF HOMES WERE BUILT TEN YEARS AGO, I WOULD
5:49:01PM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STAY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WOULD HAVE
5:49:03PM LIKED TO AND I WOULD HAVE HAD MORE OPTIONS AND MANY MORE
5:49:07PM PEOPLE WOULD HAVE OPTIONS IF WE HAVE HOMES LIKE THAT.
5:49:10PM IF YOU LOOK IN THE AREA AND TRY TO FIND HOMES LIKE THIS THE
5:49:13PM PRESENTER POINTED OUT SEVERAL THAT EXIST.
5:49:16PM HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT?
5:49:19PM THERE IS A SUPPLY AND DEMAND PROBLEM.
5:49:21PM THERE IS -- IT IS A FOUNDATIONAL PROBLEM THAT'S DRIVING THIS
5:49:26PM HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ISSUE THAT IS AT THE CENTER OF OUR
5:49:30PM POLICIES THAT EXIST ALREADY IN OUR COMP PLAN.
5:49:32PM WE NEED TO CREATE ENOUGH HOUSING FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO GROW.
5:49:35PM THAT IS A REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT DRIVES
5:49:38PM YOUR ZONING POWERS.
5:49:39PM IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, AS WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED IN
5:49:42PM APPROVING A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
5:49:44PM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON OUR OBLIGATION
5:49:48PM WITH STATE LAW REGARDING OUR ABILITY TO MANAGE LAND USE IN
5:49:51PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
5:49:52PM SO I'LL JUST SAY WE NEED MORE TYPES OF HOUSING, AND THIS IS
5:49:55PM A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT I WOULD HAVE
5:49:58PM REALLY LIKED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THE
5:50:00PM NEIGHBORHOOD MORE AFFORDABLE TO ME.
5:50:01PM I THINK THAT'S COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THIS
5:50:05PM WOULD IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF YOU THINK KEEPING PEOPLE
5:50:07PM LIKE ME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE HELPFUL.
5:50:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
5:50:11PM YES, MA'AM.
5:50:11PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:50:12PM >> HI.
5:50:13PM MY NAME IS CATHERINE OLIVEIRA.
5:50:17PM FORMER ST. PETE NEIGHBOR AND NOW A CURRENT WEST TAMPA
5:50:21PM RESIDENT.
5:50:21PM I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING.
5:50:24PM SPEAKING FROM A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE, TWO MONTHS AGO,
5:50:28PM OUR HOUSE WAS COMPLETELY FLOODED AND DESTROYED BY HURRICANE
5:50:31PM HELENE.
5:50:32PM MY WHOLE FAMILY WAS UPROOTED AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR
5:50:35PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
5:50:36PM WHEN WE ORIGINALLY MOVED TO FLORIDA, WE HAD LIVED IN TAMPA
5:50:39PM AND WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE BACK, BUT WERE
5:50:43PM COMPLETELY SHOCKED AT THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME PRICES.
5:50:46PM SO THE ONLY WAY OUR FAMILY COULD AFFORD TO CONTINUE BEING
5:50:49PM HOMEOWNERS IN THE URBAN CORE WAS TO BUY A TOWNHOME, ONE OF
5:50:53PM THESE DUPLEXES.
5:50:54PM AND WE MOVED THERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
5:50:58PM MY HUSBAND AND I, OUR TWO KIDS AND OUR FOUR DOGS.
5:51:01PM YEAH.
5:51:04PM IT'S GREAT.
5:51:04PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ARMORY GARDENS IS ALREADY AN R-20 ZONED
5:51:11PM AREA.
5:51:11PM I KNOW THAT'S BEING REQUESTED TODAY.
5:51:13PM FROM EXPERIENCE, I THINK WHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE.
5:51:16PM WE'VE MET ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT HOMES.
5:51:20PM NEW DUPLEXES, OLDER HOMES, BIG, SMALL, AND I THINK THAT'S
5:51:24PM WHAT MAKES IT VERY SPECIAL AND ALLOWS TO WELCOME FAMILIES OF
5:51:28PM DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS AND BACKGROUND AND I BELIEVE THE
5:51:30PM SAME LOGIC APPLIES TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
5:51:32PM WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT, I FELT COMPELLED TO SHOW MY
5:51:35PM SUPPORT AND HIGHLIGHT HOW PROJECTS LIKE THIS AFFECT PEOPLE
5:51:37PM LIKE ME.
5:51:38PM AND ALLOW US TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AREAS THAT WE
5:51:42PM HAVE BEEN PRICED OUT OF.
5:51:43PM THANK YOU.
5:51:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:51:44PM YES, MA'AM.
5:51:48PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:51:48PM >> HI.
5:51:49PM CAROL SANTOS.
5:51:50PM I LIVE ON OLA AVENUE PRETTY MUCH CORNER ADJACENT TO THE
5:51:54PM PROPERTY WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT.
5:51:56PM THE COMMENT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS SITTING THERE
5:52:04PM WATCHING THEIR PROPERTY, I'M A SINGLE MOTHER.
5:52:05PM I SCRAPED UP MY SAVINGS AND I PURPOSELY CHOSE THIS
5:52:11PM NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WAS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, BECAUSE
5:52:14PM KIDS COULD BE THERE, THE DOGS COULD BE THERE.
5:52:17PM IT WAS WHAT ATTRACTED ME TO THAT AREA.
5:52:20PM SO TO SAY THAT BRINGING THESE DUPLEXES IS BENEFICIAL TO
5:52:28PM ANYBODY THERE, I JUST DON'T SEE IT.
5:52:31PM ALSO, THEY KEEP MENTIONING THE R-20 ZONING AROUND THE AREA,
5:52:35PM BUT THEY ARE REFERRING TO LIKE FLORIDA AVENUE, TAMPA AVENUE.
5:52:38PM THOSE ARE BUSY, YES, THAT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
5:52:42PM THOSE ARE VERY BUSY STREETS.
5:52:44PM BUT WHEN YOU STEP INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S QUIET.
5:52:47PM IT'S SINGLE FAMILIES.
5:52:48PM IT'S ALL A LOT OF OLDER HOMES.
5:52:50PM THE LOT NEXT TO ME ACTUALLY WAS ONE HOME, A DEVELOPER
5:52:57PM PURCHASED IT, PUT TWO HOMES ON IT.
5:52:59PM EACH HOME SOLD FOR $800,000.
5:53:02PM NOT ONE PERSON UP HERE HAS MENTIONED HOW MUCH THESE HOMES
5:53:06PM ARE GOING TO GO FOR.
5:53:07PM THIS AFFORDABLE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY TRUE.
5:53:11PM THESE ARE ALL MUCH OLDER HOMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY STILL
5:53:16PM AFFORDABLE.
5:53:17PM SO I'M AGAINST THIS.
5:53:20PM THE WHOLE REASON I BOUGHT THERE AND I JUST MOVED THERE.
5:53:23PM I GOT ALL MY SAVINGS TOGETHER TO MOVE THERE.
5:53:25PM IT IS AN OLDER HOME, BUT I LOVE IT.
5:53:28PM THERE IS A PARK BEHIND US.
5:53:29PM A BEAUTIFUL PARK, AND I JUST DON'T AGREE.
5:53:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:53:34PM YES, MA'AM.
5:53:35PM COME ON UP.
5:53:36PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:53:37PM >> MY NAME IS MINDY FISHER.
5:53:39PM I LIVE ON NORTH OLA RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CAROL.
5:53:42PM EVERYBODY KEEPS MENTIONING THESE AFFORDABLE HOMES.
5:53:44PM I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE AFFORDABLE HOME IN THE AREA THAT'S BEING
5:53:48PM BUILT.
5:53:48PM IT'S BEEN A MILLION FOR EACH OF THESE TOWNHOMES.
5:53:52PM SO IF THEY THINK THAT'S AFFORDABLE, I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT'S
5:53:55PM NOT AFFORDABLE, THAT WE ALL SCRAPE AND WE ALL WORK AND WE
5:54:00PM MAKE OUR MONEY BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THAT THIS IS
5:54:02PM COMING IN AND GETTING -- WE'RE BEING PRICED OUT OF OUR OWN
5:54:07PM HOMES.
5:54:07PM JUST WANT TO SAY THAT.
5:54:08PM THANK YOU.
5:54:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:54:09PM YES, SIR.
5:54:11PM COME ON UP.
5:54:11PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:54:13PM >> MY NAME IS JASON MOORE.
5:54:15PM I'VE BEEN A TAMPA RESIDENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
5:54:18PM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR ME SPEAK
5:54:21PM ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT I THINK REALLY IS CRUCIAL FOR THE
5:54:24PM NEIGHBORHOOD'S FUTURE.
5:54:25PM ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, I BOUGHT A DUPLEX RIGHT OFF FLORIDA
5:54:29PM AVENUE.
5:54:30PM I RENTED OUT ONE SIDE AND I LIVED ON THE OTHER SIDE AS I WAS
5:54:35PM STARTING MY CAREER.
5:54:36PM ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, I MOVED OUT AND SINCE I'VE BEEN ABLE
5:54:39PM TO RENT BOTH SIDES AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE.
5:54:42PM MY TENANTS ARE REAL PEOPLE WITH BLUE COLLAR AND SERVICE JOBS
5:54:47PM WHO WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD RENT TO BE ABLE TO RENT A
5:54:51PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED HOME FOR THREE TO FOUR THOUSAND
5:54:53PM DOLLARS PER MONTH WHICH IS THE GOING RATE FOR A RESPECTABLE
5:54:57PM HOME IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
5:54:58PM I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT MY DUPLEX IS STILL PROVIDING ALL OF
5:55:02PM THESE PEOPLE AFFORDABLE PLACES TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
5:55:05PM ALL THESE YEARS LATER.
5:55:07PM I'VE SEEN MANY PEOPLE GET PRICED OUT OF THE MARKET AND
5:55:10PM PRICED OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE NEW
5:55:13PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND IN
5:55:17PM TURN LESS AND LESS AFFORDABLE.
5:55:19PM WHAT I BELIEVE WE NEED IS MORE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS TO A WIDER
5:55:23PM GROUP OF PEOPLE.
5:55:25PM A WIDER GROUP OF PEOPLE.
5:55:27PM JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST FOR RENTERS AND FIRST-TIME
5:55:30PM HOME BUYERS.
5:55:31PM WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT, I KNEW I NEEDED TO COME
5:55:34PM FORWARD AND VOICE MY SUPPORT.
5:55:36PM THIS IS REALLY GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:55:38PM PLEASE APPROVE IT.
5:55:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
5:55:41PM YES, MA'AM.
5:55:41PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:55:44PM >> GOOD EVENING.
5:55:45PM MY NAME IS CHANEL.
5:55:47PM I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH MY FIANC , TEDDY.
5:55:50PM AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE
5:55:52PM TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE WITH YOU ALL.
5:55:55PM RECENTLY, TWO YEARS AGO, MY FIANC AND I HAD THE DREAM OF
5:55:59PM BEING FIRST-TIME HOMEOWNERS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS AND WE GOT
5:56:02PM REALLY LUCKY IN FINDING A BUNGALOW JUST A FEW BLOCKS AWAY
5:56:06PM FROM HERE WHICH WE'RE SO INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE FOR.
5:56:09PM BUT DURING THE TIME OF LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE
5:56:12PM WITNESSED A LOT OF BIG BUILDERS WHO COME IN WITH THESE
5:56:17PM REALLY LARGE PROJECTS.
5:56:18PM THEY ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE EASILY TWO, THREE
5:56:21PM TIMES THE SIZE OF OURS, AND THEY EASILY SELL FOR 900,000 OR
5:56:25PM MORE.
5:56:26PM FRANKLY, IT'S BEEN EYE OPENING FOR US BECAUSE WE KNOW WE
5:56:28PM WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD THAT.
5:56:31PM WE PROBABLY WON'T IN OUR LIFETIME NOR WOULD MANY OF OUR
5:56:34PM FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS.
5:56:36PM THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE, AS
5:56:39PM MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN THIS ROOM HAVE SHARED.
5:56:42PM THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR MORE DIVERSITY.
5:56:47PM WE HOPE THERE IS A CLEAR NEED FOR MORE DIVERSE HOUSING FOR
5:56:50PM THOSE WHO NEED IT.
5:56:51PM THANK YOU.
5:56:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:56:52PM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:56:57PM >> MY NAME IS TED MARCELLO.
5:56:59PM I WANTED TO ADD THAT WHILE I'M HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS A
5:57:03PM RESIDENT OF TAMPA HEIGHTS, I DO WANT IT TO BE KNOWN THAT THE
5:57:06PM TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION HAS EXPRESSED ITS SUPPORT
5:57:10PM FOR THE PROPOSED ITEM IN A LETTER SENT TO CITY COUNCIL
5:57:14PM EARLIER THIS WEEK AS ITS THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO INCREASING
5:57:17PM DENSITY IN THE AREA DOES ALIGN WITH THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
5:57:20PM NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, SPECIFICALLY AS PART OF THE PLAN'S VISION
5:57:24PM THAT STATES TAMPA HEIGHTS HOUSING CHOICES WILL BE DIVERSE
5:57:28PM AND AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL INCOMES AND CULTURES.
5:57:33PM IN THAT LAST PART, I AM FAR TOO FAMILIAR WITH THIS NEED AS A
5:57:38PM FIRST GENERATION AMERICAN, I HAVE BORN WITNESS TO MY FAMILY
5:57:42PM BEING PRICED OUT OF THE AREA DUE TO THAT VERY LACK OF REAL
5:57:46PM ALTERNATIVE HOUSING OPTIONS.
5:57:48PM WE DO BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE DESERVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALL
5:57:53PM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HOME AND ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS
5:57:55PM REQUEST.
5:57:55PM THANK YOU.
5:57:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:57:57PM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
5:58:00PM IF NOT, I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT FOR A REBUTTAL.
5:58:04PM SIR, IF YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL, COME ON UP.
5:58:06PM YOU GET FIVE MINUTES.
5:58:09PM >> THANK YOU GUYS.
5:58:10PM I LOVE THE FEEDBACK.
5:58:12PM LIKE, THIS IS WHY I DO WHAT I DO AND WHY I SPEND THE TIME I
5:58:17PM DO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
5:58:18PM A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT STRUCK ME IN THE FEEDBACK OF IT,
5:58:20PM THOUGH, WERE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES SELLING ANYWHERE BETWEEN --
5:58:24PM UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS.
5:58:25PM THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT.
5:58:26PM AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SOLVE.
5:58:28PM I AM A ONE-MAN SHOW.
5:58:31PM LIKE, I AM A BROKER AND I HAD THE HOME BUILDING SITE.
5:58:35PM I DON'T WANT TO DO BATTLES FOR NO REASON, BUT I KNOW THIS
5:58:38PM NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS AFFORDABLE OPTIONS.
5:58:40PM SO WHEN I SAY I'M DOING THIS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M DOING
5:58:43PM IT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AFFORDABILITY.
5:58:45PM I DON'T WANT MY NEIGHBORS GETTING PRICED OUT.
5:58:47PM SOMETHING A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT IS THAT OUR
5:58:50PM EXISTING NEIGHBORS ARE GETTING PRICED OUT BECAUSE THE
5:58:52PM INSURANCE BILLS ON 1930 BUNGALOWS HAVE TRIPLED FOR A LOT OF
5:58:56PM PEOPLE.
5:58:57PM EVEN IF YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU
5:58:59PM HAVE EQUITY, IT'S EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE
5:59:02PM TO STAY HERE SOMETIMES.
5:59:03PM PROVIDING NEW OPTIONS OF MORE AFFORDABLE, SMALLER FORMAT
5:59:07PM HOMES IS ESSENTIAL TO KEEPING PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND
5:59:10PM ALSO GETTING NEW BLOOD, RIGHT?
5:59:12PM LIKE, THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR YOUNG FAMILIES AND PEOPLE
5:59:17PM WHO ARE INTERESTED IN GIVING UP THEIR CAR.
5:59:19PM LITERALLY 540 FEET AWAY FROM A BUS STOP.
5:59:23PM WE'RE LESS THAN A MILE FROM DOWNTOWN.
5:59:25PM I CAN BE IN ARMATURE WORKS IN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES ON MY
5:59:28PM BICYCLE.
5:59:29PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE THIS KIND OF PROJECT MAKES SENSE
5:59:32PM THAN WHERE THIS IS.
5:59:33PM THE OTHER THING I THOUGHT IS GREAT IS THAT PEOPLE WHO WORK
5:59:36PM HARD TO PUT MONEY DOWN TO BUY THEIR HOUSE, SAME THING.
5:59:40PM PEOPLE WILL SAVE MONEY TO PUT DOWN TO BUY THEIR FIRST HOUSE.
5:59:44PM DOGS AND KIDS LIVE IN TOWN HOUSES TOO.
5:59:48PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS OUT THERE.
5:59:50PM I'M PERSONALLY COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE MY NEIGHBORHOOD
5:59:53PM STAYS THE COOL ECLECTIC THING IT IS.
5:59:55PM I'M GOING OUT ON A LIMB TO DO IT THIS WAY INSTEAD OF
5:59:59PM BUILDING A McMANN SCHUSS AND MAKING A HIGHER PROFIT
6:00:01PM MANSION.
6:00:02PM BUILDING A REALLY EXPENSIVE 4,000-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE DOES NOT
6:00:05PM SERVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:00:06PM IT MAY SERVE ME INDIVIDUALLY.
6:00:08PM I'M BEYOND THAT IN MY LIFE.
6:00:10PM I NEED A LEGACY.
6:00:11PM I'M ALWAYS AROUND AND I ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ALL MY NEIGHBORS
6:00:14PM TO MAKE SURE I'M DOING THE BEST THING FOR US.
6:00:17PM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
6:00:18PM THANK YOU.
6:00:18PM PLEASE SUPPORT THE CHANGE IN DENSITY.
6:00:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
6:00:23PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN --
6:00:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:00:25PM SIR, YOU MENTIONED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOUR OR FIVE TIMES IN
6:00:32PM YOUR DELIBERATION AND YOUR REBUTTAL.
6:00:36PM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
6:00:41PM >> ESSENTIALLY MISSING MIDDLE ALLOWS FOR A SMALLER FORMAT.
6:00:44PM INSTEAD OF 3,000 OR 2500 SQUARE FOOT FLOOR PLAN, YOU CAN GO
6:00:48PM DOWN TO 1500 OR 1800 SQUARE FEET.
6:00:51PM TAKE THAT TIMES A HOUSE AND YOU'LL GET A LOWER PRICE HOME.
6:00:54PM IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE UNDER CERTAIN INCOME THRESHOLDS BY
6:00:57PM PRODUCT.
6:00:58PM IT'S GOING TO CREATE A MORE AFFORDABLE OPTION.
6:01:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION --
6:01:03PM >> IN MY WORLD, UNDER 600.
6:01:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE MAY BE IN DIFFERENT WORLDS.
6:01:08PM WHAT IS THIS PROJECT YOU'RE HAVING TO ASK FOR MORE UNITS,
6:01:15PM WHAT ARE THE COST?
6:01:16PM I WANT YOU TO SAY ABOUT.
6:01:22PM >> SAY UNDER 600,000.
6:01:23PM STICKS AND BRICKS JUST FOR COST FOR ME STICKS AND BRICKS IS
6:01:29PM 230 A SQUARE FOOT PLUS THE COST OF LAND.
6:01:35PM INFLATION IS NOT GREAT ON ANYTHING.
6:01:37PM TO BE REALISTIC AND NOT SET BASS EXPECTATIONS, 230 BUCKS A
6:01:41PM SQUARE FOOT IS THE COST TO BUILD PLUS LAND COST.
6:01:44PM MULTIPLY THAT TIMES 1800, YOU'LL GET THERE PRETTY QUICK.
6:01:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL MEMBER
6:01:52PM HENDERSON.
6:01:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HIT ON A BUNCH OF POINTS THAT I TRY TO
6:01:57PM MAKE ON LAND USE AS WELL.
6:02:01PM YOU'RE IN THE SAME BLOCK.
6:02:02PM YOU'RE IN THE VERY FIRST BLOCK COMING OFF OF MLK, CORRECT?
6:02:05PM >> RIGHT.
6:02:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO ON THE NORTH END OF THIS BLOCK IS
6:02:09PM MIXED-USE COMMERCIAL?
6:02:10PM >> IT IS A PARKING LOT AND AN OFFICE SPACE ON BOTH SIDES.
6:02:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EAST AND WEST ON MLK?
6:02:16PM OFFICES AND COMMERCIAL?
6:02:20PM >> RIGHT.
6:02:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
6:02:23PM I'LL SAVE THE REST OF MY COMMENTS.
6:02:25PM I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY.
6:02:28PM IT WASN'T CLEAR.
6:02:29PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR IN MY ASSESSMENT.
6:02:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
6:02:34PM I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MISSING MIDDLE.
6:02:38PM CAN'T YOU GET TO THE MISSING MIDDLE WITH RS 10?
6:02:41PM >> NO, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THE ACREAGE AND THE STAFF
6:02:43PM REPORT BROUGHT THAT UP.
6:02:45PM THE MAX WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW PUTS IT AT FIVE UNITS.
6:02:47PM THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN GET TO A DUPLEX ON EACH LOT IS TO GO
6:02:52PM TO R-20 WHICH WOULD GIVE A MAXIMUM OF 10.
6:02:56PM IT IS ACTUALLY 9 AND HAD TO GO FOR BONUS DENSITY.
6:03:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU MENTIONED
6:03:03PM THAT THE RS 20, WHICH IS RIGHT ON HIGHLAND AVENUE, THE ONLY
6:03:08PM LITTLE SPOT.
6:03:09PM THIS IS CLEARLY A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
6:03:12PM AND I KNOW WE HAVE DUPLEXES THERE AND THINGS THAT OCCURRED
6:03:16PM WHEN THERE WAS NO ORGANIZATION OR STRUCTURE FOR WHAT YOU
6:03:20PM COULD BUILD WHEN PEOPLE WERE FLEEING TAMPA HEIGHTS AT ONE
6:03:25PM TIME.
6:03:26PM THE RS 10 IS FIVE UNITS, RIGHT?
6:03:36PM UP TO FIVE UNITS.
6:03:38PM >> ON THIS PARCEL IT ALLOWS UP TO FIVE.
6:03:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BUT TEN -- UP TO TEN
6:03:44PM UNITS, WHAT IS IT RS 20 IS UP TO 10, RIGHT?
6:03:49PM I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY CAN'T YOU BUILD MISSING MIDDLE
6:03:53PM WITH RS 10 BECAUSE YOU CAN GO UP.
6:03:56PM OR YOU WANT A DUPLEX SIDE BY SIDE.
6:03:58PM WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?
6:04:00PM >> WELL, NO.
6:04:01PM THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
6:04:03PM RS 20 ALLOWS FOR 20 UNITS PER ACRE.
6:04:05PM WE CAN'T GET TO 20 -- THE SIZE OF THE LOT IS ABOUT HALF AN
6:04:11PM ACRE.
6:04:11PM IN ORDER TO GET 10 UNITS, WE HAVE TO BE AT R-20.
6:04:15PM SO THE STAFF REPORT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE MAXIMUM WITH THE
6:04:20PM EXISTING AND WHAT IT WILL BE WITH R-20.
6:04:22PM R-20 IS NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD MISSING MIDDLE.
6:04:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BUT YOU WANT TO GET TO TEN UNITS.
6:04:27PM THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT?
6:04:29PM >> YES.
6:04:29PM SO FIVE LOTS, A DUPLEX ON EACH LOT.
6:04:32PM THAT IS A TOTAL OF TEN HOUSING UNITS.
6:04:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
6:04:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST WOULD LEAVE IT AT THAT.
6:04:46PM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION SAID THAT THEY
6:04:50PM SUPPORT IT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING
6:04:53PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND AT THIS TIME, IT DOESN'T -- I DON'T THINK
6:04:56PM IT SUPPORTS BUILDING BEYOND THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN THIS
6:05:01PM PARTICULAR PART OF TAMPA HEIGHTS BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY A
6:05:04PM SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, WHILE
6:05:08PM IT DOES HELP SUPPORT THE MISSING MIDDLE, IT DOESN'T
6:05:11PM NECESSARILY SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
6:05:14PM IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I TEND TO AGREE
6:05:16PM WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME AND SPOKE TODAY WHO LIVE WITHIN
6:05:20PM CLOSE PROXIMITY.
6:05:20PM I JUST DON'T SEE IT BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME TO
6:05:24PM CHANGE IT FROM RS 10 TO RS 20.
6:05:28PM I'M JUST NOT CONVINCED THAT IS THE BEST USE.
6:05:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO CLOSE.
6:05:33PM >> SECOND.
6:05:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
6:05:35PM YES, MA'AM.
6:05:41PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
6:05:43PM ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
6:05:45PM EVIDENCE.
6:05:46PM I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT IS A STANDARD THAT IS USED FOR
6:05:49PM A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING, WHICH THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
6:05:53PM AMENDMENT.
6:05:53PM IT IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION.
6:05:55PM SO COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT AS A POLICY MATTER
6:05:59PM THE REQUESTED CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION FOR
6:06:02PM THIS PARCEL OF PROPERTY.
6:06:04PM I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
6:06:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
6:06:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:06:10PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:06:11PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK?
6:06:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
6:06:13PM I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE
6:06:20PM INCREASED DENSITY IS NEEDED.
6:06:21PM IT IS RIGHT OFF OF MLK, RIGHT ON A BUS LINE.
6:06:27PM ACTUALLY, OLA AVENUE, WHICH I'M SHOCKED PEOPLE DIDN'T
6:06:31PM MENTION, IS THE NEW BIKE BOULEVARD.
6:06:33PM THE BIKE BOULEVARD IS GOING RIGHT DOWN THIS OLA AVENUE,
6:06:36PM WHICH WILL ADD MORE DIVERSE TRANSPORTATION ALONG THIS
6:06:43PM CORRIDOR.
6:06:45PM TAMPA HEIGHTS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT PUSHES FOR
6:06:53PM CHANGE IN DENSITY.
6:06:55PM INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS FIGHTING TO
6:06:57PM KEEP THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, THERE.
6:07:01PM WE DON'T SEE THAT IN MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EXTENT
6:07:03PM THAT TAMPA HEIGHTS IS SUPPORTING THIS.
6:07:05PM SO I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR IT AND I WILL --
6:07:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO READ THE ORDINANCE?
6:07:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL READ THE ORDINANCE.
6:07:14PM FILE TA/CPA 24-08, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
6:07:18PM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
6:07:21PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
6:07:23PM MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3901 AND 3905 NORTH OLA
6:07:28PM AVENUE AND 3904 NORTH DARTMOUTH AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL 10,
6:07:33PM R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL 20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
6:07:37PM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
6:07:40PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:07:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, COUNCIL
6:07:43PM MEMBER CLENDENIN, DISCUSSION.
6:07:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SINK, CAN YOU THROW UP SLIDE NUMBER 9
6:07:49PM SO I CAN TALK TO IT?
6:07:51PM I JUST WANTED TO USE THIS AS A VISUAL.
6:08:00PM THIS IS WHY I CONCUR WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IN THE
6:08:08PM ASSESSMENT ABOUT WHY I WAS ASKING THE DEVELOPMENT ALREADY
6:08:11PM EXISTING ON MLK.
6:08:12PM IT'S NO SECRET THAT I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR TRANSPORTATION AND
6:08:18PM TRANSPORTATION FRIENDLY ZONING AND LAND USE.
6:08:20PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, MLK IS THAT EAST-WEST CORRIDOR.
6:08:24PM IT IS A MAJOR EAST-WEST TRANSIT STREET.
6:08:28PM THIS IS THE VERY FIRST BLOCK.
6:08:31PM I'VE SAID IT FROM THE DAIS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES,
6:08:33PM ANYBODY THAT LIVES WITHIN A BLOCK OF A MAJOR TRANSIT
6:08:36PM CORRIDOR EXPECT INCREASED DENSITY.
6:08:39PM THEN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT STEP-DOWN DENSITY.
6:08:41PM IN A PERFECT WORLD AS WE LOOK AT THIS ON MLK, YOU WOULD HAVE
6:08:46PM THAT MORE INTENSE DENSITY ALONG MLK, AND YOU WOULD CONTINUE
6:08:50PM TO STEP DOWN DEEPER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, POSSIBLY EVEN
6:08:54PM DEEPER THAN THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
6:08:56PM SO I THINK GOING TO R-20 IN THIS IS QUITE MODEST.
6:09:01PM FOR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOUR THOUGHTS -- I UNDERSTAND
6:09:03PM WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE BECAUSE ECHOING SOME OF THE
6:09:06PM NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.
6:09:07PM I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU ASK A DEVELOPER THE COST OF
6:09:12PM DIRT AND AGAIN, SO IF HE DEVELOPED IN SINGLE-FAMILY, HE
6:09:15PM WOULD HAVE TO BUILD 4,000-SQUARE-FOOT UNITS TO GET A RETURN
6:09:18PM ON THE INVESTMENT.
6:09:20PM SO THIS IS WHAT WOULD END UP HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE COST
6:09:22PM OF THE DIRT, HAVE TO OVERDEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AND BUILD
6:09:26PM THESE BIGGER HOUSES.
6:09:27PM THIS WAY THEY CAN BUILD MORE MODEST AND SMALLER HOUSES
6:09:31PM BECAUSE THE COST OF THE DIRT.
6:09:33PM IF THE DIRT WAS CHEAPER --
6:09:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PART --
6:09:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS JUST ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
6:09:39PM I DON'T THINK IT WAS FULLY ANSWERED.
6:09:41PM MY BIG THING, AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, CAN'T SEE
6:09:44PM WHERE I'M POINTING, YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AND LOOK AT TAMPA
6:09:48PM STREET AND THE WAY THE LAND USE HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED,
6:09:51PM SO YOU GET DOWN TO THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND THEN THE
6:09:55PM R-20 DOWN TO THE SOUTH AND, OF COURSE, TO THE EAST.
6:09:58PM IF YOU ARE JUST GOING TO NATURALLY CREATE IN AN OFFICE HOW
6:10:04PM YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS LAND, YOU WOULD CONTINUE THAT
6:10:07PM R-20 ALL THE WAY UP TAMPA STREET AND ALL THE WAY EAST-WEST
6:10:11PM OFF OF MLK AND TRANSITION INTO SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD
6:10:14PM FURTHER SOUTH.
6:10:15PM AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN
6:10:19PM THE RIGHT PLACE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
6:10:22PM THIS IS KIND OF HIGH AND DRY.
6:10:26PM AND IT'S ALONG OUR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
6:10:29PM WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE TRANSPORTATION
6:10:31PM OPTIONS THAT I'M PURSUING BEFORE I DIE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
6:10:35PM IF WE DON'T INCREASE DENSITY ALONG THESE CORRIDORS.
6:10:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON AND COUNCIL
6:10:44PM MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN CARLSON.
6:10:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF IT WERE ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE OR MARTIN
6:10:52PM LUTHER KING, I COULD EASILY SEE RS 20 AND BE SUPPORTIVE BUT
6:10:56PM THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY COMMUNITY, PERIOD.
6:10:59PM AND NOTHING ELSE -- IF I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF
6:11:04PM SOUTH TAMPA, YOU-ALL WOULD BE VOTING NO.
6:11:08PM SO THIS IS LIKE, I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THIS
6:11:11PM IS A SINGLE-FAMILY PARTICULAR AREA.
6:11:15PM IF IT WAS ALONG THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, THAT WOULD BE
6:11:17PM DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S NOT.
6:11:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
6:11:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.
6:11:23PM THIS IS INSIDE THE COMMUNITY.
6:11:24PM THIS IS CLEARLY INSIDE THE COMMUNITY.
6:11:28PM NOT BECAUSE I'M A TAMPA HEIGHTS RESIDENT.
6:11:33PM THIS IS CLEARLY INSIDE THE COMMUNITY AND IT DESERVES TO BE
6:11:36PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
6:11:37PM IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
6:11:40PM SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
6:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND CARLSON.
6:11:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU LOOK AT THE CORNER TO THE RIGHT,
6:11:47PM YOU HAVE NORTH BOULEVARD AND MLK.
6:11:50PM FIRST ONE THAT HAD A GAS STATION IN THE BACK OF THE PLACE.
6:11:55PM IT WAS PACKED EVERY SUNDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
6:11:57PM COULDN'T GET NEAR THE PLACE.
6:11:59PM ALONG THESE CORRIDORS, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CHANGING, BUT IF
6:12:04PM THIS WERE TO HAPPEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ARMENIA AVENUE, YOU
6:12:07PM COULDN'T DO IT.
6:12:09PM >> OTHER SIDE OF WHAT STREET?
6:12:10PM SORRY, SIR.
6:12:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
6:12:12PM YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT, THAT BLOCK YOU'RE IN, THIS IS
6:12:16PM ONLY MY OPINION, NOTHING LIKE THAT THERE FROM WHAT I SEE
6:12:19PM HERE.
6:12:21PM YOU WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE DOING IT.
6:12:24PM THEY CALL THE DOMINO EFFECT.
6:12:26PM YOU HAVE ONE AND THEN HAVE A LOT MORE.
6:12:29PM IF IT IS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE LIKE I SEE NOW, NOT
6:12:31PM SAYING I'M HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT OR ANYBODY ELSE IS WRONG,
6:12:35PM YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE IN ZONINGS.
6:12:36PM I UNDERSTAND ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
6:12:39PM MY WHOLE LIFE WHEN I WAS LIVING IN THE HOUSING PROJECT.
6:12:42PM I'M NOT OPPOSED TO TRANSPORTATION, BUT THIS IS THE START OF
6:12:49PM SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE END OF.
6:12:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
6:12:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: SINCE THIS IS LEGISLATIVE, I CAN SAY THINGS
6:13:02PM THAT I COULDN'T SAY IN QUASI-JUDICIAL.
6:13:04PM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMES UP IS WE SHOULDN'T PUT
6:13:10PM THINGS IN OTHER PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE WOULDN'T PUT
6:13:12PM IN OUR OWN.
6:13:13PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVED IN FOR 15 YEARS IN HYDE PARK WAS
6:13:16PM FULL OF THESE --
6:13:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT THESE?
6:13:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: DUPLEXES.
6:13:22PM THE PROBLEM IS THAT -- AND I WON'T MENTION ANY NAMES, THE
6:13:27PM PROBLEM IS IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND CUTS AND PASTES
6:13:31PM SOMETHING FROM THE SUBURBS INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN IT
6:13:34PM LOOKS TERRIBLE.
6:13:36PM WE ARE NOT APPROVING THE EXACT PLAN HERE TODAY.
6:13:41PM BUT I THINK FROM YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
6:13:44PM THAT YOU HAVE AN AESTHETIC, IF YOU GO TO HYDE PARK, GO TO
6:13:47PM THE MOVIE THEATER IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE JUST NORTH OF THERE,
6:13:51PM ALL AROUND THERE ARE THESE.
6:13:52PM THEY ALL LOOK LIKE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
6:13:54PM SO IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM -- THIS IS HISTORIC
6:13:59PM NEIGHBORHOOD, NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, LOCAL HISTORIC
6:14:01PM DISTRICT, DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE LOOK AND FEEL.
6:14:04PM IN FACT, IT ADDED TO IT BECAUSE THERE WERE DEVELOPERS THAT
6:14:06PM WENT IN AND DID THE RIGHT THING.
6:14:08PM IF YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER, IF YOU ARE A DEVELOPER LOOKING
6:14:12PM TO TAKE A SUBURBAN DESIGN AND STICK IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
6:14:15PM THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.
6:14:17PM I THINK READING BETWEEN THE LINES WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
6:14:20PM ASSOCIATION SAID, YOU HAVE THE SENSITIVITY AND AESTHETIC TO
6:14:24PM BUILD SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:14:27PM AND WE'LL LOOK AT THAT LATER.
6:14:29PM I'M AGAINST PUTTING MULTIFAMILY IN A PLACE ALSO WHERE
6:14:35PM THERE'S SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT IN A CASE WHERE SOMEBODY IS GOING
6:14:39PM TO PUT IT IN AND IN A WAY THAT IT HAS THE AESTHETIC AND FITS
6:14:43PM IN AND ADDS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN I'M NOT AGAINST.
6:14:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
6:14:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO PUT
6:14:52PM HERE.
6:14:53PM WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THAT'S PRESENTED.
6:15:00PM THAT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
6:15:02PM RIGHT NOW IT IS ABOUT CHANGING THE LAND CODE.
6:15:05PM HE COULD SELL IT TOMORROW AND THEN IF WE VOTE TO CHANGE IT
6:15:09PM TO R-10, THEN THAT PERSON CAN MAXIMIZE IT AND IT WOULD BE
6:15:13PM SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
6:15:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER PROBLEM HE MENTIONED IS THE
6:15:18PM McMANSIONS.
6:15:19PM I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THOSE.
6:15:21PM THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE BECAUSE PART OF THE
6:15:24PM PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH STORMWATER IS ALL THESE
6:15:26PM McMANSIONS DON'T HAVE A YARD AND THEY ARE BUILT UP HIGHER
6:15:30PM AND RUN WATER INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
6:15:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
6:15:37PM LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
6:15:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
6:15:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
6:15:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
6:15:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
6:15:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
6:15:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
6:15:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
6:15:52PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND HENDERSON
6:15:54PM VOTING NO.
6:15:55PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
6:15:58PM 2024, AT 10:00 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
6:16:03PM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:16:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 6.
6:16:29PM >> GOOD EVENING.
6:16:30PM ERICA LARSON, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
6:16:32PM THIS ITEM IS PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW OF THE CITY OF
6:16:35PM TAMPA'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION, CIS, SCHEDULE OF
6:16:40PM PROJECTS UPDATE.
6:16:40PM THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
6:16:42PM CHAPTER 163 REQUIRES A SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS OR THE LIST OF
6:16:48PM PROJECTS ADDRESSING LEVEL OF SERVICE AND ADOPTED IN THE
6:16:51PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BE UPDATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
6:16:54PM THE UPDATE WOULD REPLACE EXISTING CIS SCHEDULE AND COMP PLAN
6:17:00PM WITH THE SCHEDULE LISTED IN YOUR PACKETS.
6:17:02PM THE LATEST SCHEDULE REFLECTS THE ADOPTED C.I.P. THAT WERE
6:17:06PM RECENTLY APPROVED.
6:17:07PM THE UPDATE IS ACCOMPLISHED BY ORDINANCE WHICH IS EXPLICITLY
6:17:11PM PERMITTED UNDER CHAPTER 163.
6:17:13PM THIS IS A ROUTINE ANNUAL UPDATE.
6:17:15PM WE COME BEFORE YOU EACH YEAR WITH THIS INFORMATION TO
6:17:19PM SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE.
6:17:20PM CITY STAFF IDENTIFIED PROJECTS IN THE CIS THAT AFFECT THE
6:17:24PM LEVEL OF SERVICE.
6:17:25PM THESE ITEMS MAKE UP THE SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS.
6:17:30PM THERE WAS A RECENT CHAPTER 163 UPDATE THAT ALSO REQUIRES THE
6:17:35PM CIS TO INCLUDE BASIN MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN, BMAP PROJECTS
6:17:42PM UPDATED ANNUAL.
6:17:42PM IT IS A FRAMEWORK FOR WATER QUALITY RESTORATION, THAT
6:17:45PM INCLUDES A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF SOLUTIONS TO ACHIEVE THE
6:17:47PM POLLUTANT REDUCTIONS ESTABLISHED BY A TOTAL MAXIMUM DAILY
6:17:52PM LOAD TMDL AS DEFINED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
6:17:55PM ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.
6:17:58PM THESE BMAP PROJECTS WERE COORDINATED WITH CITY STAFF FROM
6:18:01PM THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT.
6:18:03PM ADDITIONALLY, THE PLANS OF OTHER AGENCIES ARE INCORPORATED
6:18:06PM BY REFERENCE.
6:18:07PM DISPLAYED IS A SUMMARY OF THE CIS SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WHICH
6:18:14PM ARE PLACED INTO SEVEN PROGRAM AREAS.
6:18:18PM YOU CAN SEE THE LARGEST GROUPS IN TERMS OF FUNDING ARE
6:18:20PM WASTEWATER AND WATER.
6:18:22PM THE TOTAL FUNDING AMOUNT FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 THROUGH FISCAL
6:18:26PM YEAR 29 IS 1.331 BILLION FOR 75 PROJECTS.
6:18:30PM THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN OF LEVEL OF SERVICE PROJECT
6:18:38PM TYPES IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
6:18:41PM LEVEL OF SERVICE PRIORITIES OUTLINED IN THE CAPITAL
6:18:44PM IMPROVEMENT SECTION, OBJECTIVE 1.3 AND POLICY 1.3.2.
6:18:49PM WHICH STATE THE SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS SHOULD BE PLANNED TO
6:18:52PM BOTH ELIMINATE EXISTING DEFICIENCIES AND REPLACE ONE-OUT
6:18:57PM FACILITIES.
6:18:58PM ON THIS SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE OBJECTIVE AND POLICY EXCERPTS
6:19:05PM USED IN THE CONSISTENCY REVIEW, HOWEVER A FULL LIST OF THE
6:19:08PM POLICIES CAN BE FOUND IN YOUR PACKET.
6:19:11PM THE COASTAL OBJECTIVE IN POLICY LISTED DISCUSSES THE COASTAL
6:19:15PM HIGH HAZARD AREA AND LIMITING PUBLIC EXPENDITURES FOR
6:19:19PM INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES WITHIN IT.
6:19:21PM AFTER REVIEW, STAFF FOUND THAT PROJECTS WITHIN THE CHHA WERE
6:19:26PM MINIMAL AND WERE EITHER TO SERVE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT,
6:19:29PM REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT OR ENHANCE PUBLIC ACCESS TO NATURAL
6:19:33PM AREAS.
6:19:33PM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OBJECTIVE AND POLICY DISCUSSES
6:19:38PM PROJECT FUNDING SHOULD BE -- SHOULD FIRST BE EXPENDED ON
6:19:41PM PROJECTS THAT MAINTAIN LEVEL OF SERVICE AND CORRECT
6:19:44PM DEFICIENCIES BEFORE BEING EXPENDED ON PROJECTS THAT SERVE
6:19:47PM FUTURE GROWTH.
6:19:48PM THE REST OF THE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES LISTED ON THIS SLIDE
6:19:51PM ARE RELATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC FACILITIES.
6:19:54PM PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE CITY OF TAMPA'S PROPOSED
6:20:00PM FISCAL YEAR 25 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 29 CIS SCHEDULE OF
6:20:04PM PROJECTS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES
6:20:07PM OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND RECOMMENDS ADOPTION BY
6:20:10PM ORDINANCE.
6:20:11PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
6:20:13PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
6:20:15PM THANK YOU.
6:20:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
6:20:16PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:20:18PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
6:20:21PM ITEM?
6:20:21PM THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 6.
6:20:22PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
6:20:24PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
6:20:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:20:26PM AYE.
6:20:27PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:20:27PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
6:20:30PM 6?
6:20:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 6 IS FILE CIP-CIS FY 25-29,
6:20:39PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
6:20:41PM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CAPITAL
6:20:43PM IMPROVEMENT SECTION, BY REPLACING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024
6:20:47PM THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION
6:20:50PM SCHEDULE OF PROJECTS WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH
6:20:55PM FISCAL YEAR 2029 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION SCHEDULE OF
6:20:57PM PROJECTS, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
6:21:00PM CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
6:21:02PM DATE.
6:21:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
6:21:04PM MIRANDA.
6:21:05PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
6:21:07PM ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
6:21:09PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:21:12PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6:21:13PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
6:21:16PM 2024, AT 10:00 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
6:21:21PM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:21:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:21:27PM IF ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON ITEMS NUMBER 7 THROUGH
6:21:31PM 17, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR
6:21:35PM YOU IN.
6:21:41PM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
6:21:53PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
6:21:54PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
6:21:57PM ITEM 7 IS AB 2-24-08.
6:22:00PM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 4703 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
6:22:05PM THIS REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES AS A SMALL
6:22:08PM VENUE CLASSIFICATION WITH THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE WITH
6:22:12PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF
6:22:15PM PREMISES.
6:22:17PM THIS REQUEST WOULD CONTAIN AN INDOOR SALES AREA OF 1,012
6:22:22PM SQUARE FEET.
6:22:23PM OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA WOULD CONTAIN 779 SQUARE FEET FOR A
6:22:27PM TOTAL OF 1,791 SQUARE FEET.
6:22:30PM 8 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 5 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
6:22:36PM THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A WAIVER TO THIS STANDARD AND
6:22:40PM THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
6:22:45PM I HAVE THE ZONING MAP, THE AERIAL.
6:22:53PM YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL MAP, THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
6:22:58PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.
6:23:01PM SO THIS IS NEBRASKA AVENUE, AND THIS IS CURTIS STREET.
6:23:09PM THIS IS OSBORNE.
6:23:09PM THE PROPERTY IS ZONED SH-CG.
6:23:13PM IT IS IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS SPECIAL DISTRICT.
6:23:16PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WHICH WAS SUBMITTED.
6:23:18PM SO THIS IS NEBRASKA AVENUE.
6:23:20PM SO THE SUBJECT SITE, THAT PARTICULAR UNIT IS A PART OF A
6:23:26PM SUITE IN THIS ONE BUILDING.
6:23:27PM SO THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES THERE IN THE STRIP CENTER.
6:23:31PM SO THESE AREAS THAT ARE GRAYED OUT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS
6:23:34PM REQUEST.
6:23:35PM SO THIS IS THE INDOOR AB SALES AREA OUTLINED HERE AND THIS
6:23:39PM IS THE OUTDOOR AREA THAT'S LOCATED HERE.
6:23:42PM SO VEHICLES WOULD ACCESS THE SITE, THE REAR OF THE SITE
6:23:46PM THROUGH THE ALLEY AND THEN THERE IS THE SURFACE PARKING
6:23:49PM THAT'S LOCATED THERE BEHIND THE BUILDING ON-SITE.
6:23:52PM I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
6:23:59PM THIS IS THE SITE.
6:24:00PM IT'S ON NEBRASKA IF YOU'RE LOOKING EAST.
6:24:05PM JUST A SECOND.
6:24:06PM LET ME GO BACK.
6:24:07PM THIS IS THE LOCATION.
6:24:07PM AND THIS IS THE VIEW IF YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH ON NEBRASKA.
6:24:13PM SO THE SITE IS ON THE RIGHT.
6:24:17PM THIS IS THE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY.
6:24:23PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE ALLEY THAT'S LOOKING NORTH
6:24:27PM TOWARDS OSBORNE.
6:24:30PM THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS NEBRASKA.
6:24:32PM THIS IS THE REAR, ANOTHER VIEW.
6:24:39PM THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
6:24:42PM THIS IS ACROSS NEBRASKA.
6:24:43PM YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER COMMERCIAL THAT'S THERE.
6:24:46PM AND THEN THIS IS SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE.
6:24:50PM AND THEN THIS IS A VIEW SOUTH OF THE SITE.
6:24:52PM SO THE DRC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE
6:25:00PM REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
6:25:01PM THERE ARE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST
6:25:04PM AND SECOND READING.
6:25:05PM THIS REQUEST HAD TWO WAIVERS REQUESTED.
6:25:08PM WITH THIS APPLICATION.
6:25:10PM THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
6:25:14PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
6:25:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
6:25:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU.
6:25:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
6:25:20PM NO APPLICANT.
6:25:32PM YES, THAT'S YOU.
6:25:34PM >> HI.
6:25:34PM I'M SHELBI.
6:25:36PM SHELBI WEEKS.
6:25:40PM 4703 NORTH NEBRASKA.
6:25:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ONE.
6:25:47PM >> I DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION.
6:25:49PM HAPPY TO TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE BUSINESS, WHAT WE OFFER.
6:25:53PM SO WE ARE LIKE FLOWER SHOP BY DAY, WINE BAR BY NIGHT.
6:25:58PM WE HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION IN BRANDON.
6:26:00PM WE'VE BEEN THERE A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS.
6:26:03PM SO WE DO A LOT OF WORKSHOPS LIKE FLORAL WORKSHOPS, MAYBE
6:26:07PM THINK OF LIKE PAINTING WITH A TWIST BUT WITH FLOWERS.
6:26:10PM SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS GOT STARTED WITH THE WINE BAR
6:26:14PM PORTION OF IT ALLOWING SALE OF ALCOHOL ALONG WITH FLOWERS.
6:26:19PM AND THEN IT KIND OF TOOK OFF FROM THERE.
6:26:22PM IN THIS SPACE WE WOULD OFFER THE SAME THING.
6:26:24PM IT IS A BIT SMALLER, SO MAYBE A LITTLE LESS WORKSHOPS.
6:26:28PM STILL HAVING FLOWERS AND WINE.
6:26:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
6:26:32PM ANY QUESTIONS?
6:26:33PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
6:26:36PM THIS IS ITEM 7?
6:26:38PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
6:26:40PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
6:26:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:26:43PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:26:43PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
6:26:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
6:26:45PM MOVE AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU 2 FOR
6:26:50PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
6:26:55PM PREMISES/PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES AND MAKING
6:26:59PM LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN
6:27:03PM LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 4703 NORTH NEBRASKA
6:27:07PM AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
6:27:10PM SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
6:27:13PM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
6:27:15PM DATE.
6:27:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
6:27:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
6:27:19PM YOU WANT TO SEE IF WE APPROVE IT, RIGHT?
6:27:28PM >> I'LL FIND OUT EVENTUALLY.
6:27:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
6:27:30PM AYE.
6:27:30PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:27:31PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6:27:33PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
6:27:36PM 2024, AT 10:00 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
6:27:40PM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:27:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW GET OUT OF HERE.
6:27:46PM [ LAUGHTER ]
6:27:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
6:27:50PM NUMBER 8.
6:27:51PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
6:27:53PM ITEM 8 IS AB2-24-11.
6:28:02PM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 3906 SOUTH MACDILL AVENUE, UNIT
6:28:02PM 3910.
6:28:02PM THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE
6:28:05PM CLASSIFICATION FOR THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE, CONSUMPTION ON
6:28:08PM PREMISES ONLY.
6:28:10PM THIS REQUEST DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA.
6:28:13PM THIS IS ALL CONTAINED INDOOR AREA.
6:28:16PM THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.
6:28:18PM BUILDING ONE WOULD CONTAIN 4,343 SQUARE FEET AND THEN
6:28:22PM BUILDING TWO CONTAINS 580 SQUARE FEET.
6:28:25PM THIS GIVES A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 4,923 SQUARE FEET.
6:28:31PM AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
6:28:34PM THERE ARE 20 SPACES REQUIRED AND PROVIDED ON-SITE.
6:28:38PM SO I HAVE A ZONING MAP TO SHOW.
6:28:45PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.
6:28:49PM THIS IS MacDILL AVENUE.
6:28:50PM AND THIS IS BAY VISTA.
6:28:53PM YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IS ZONED CG.
6:28:57PM THAT IS THE ZONING THERE.
6:28:58PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WHICH WAS SUBMITTED IN THE RECORD.
6:29:04PM YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY THAT'S OUTLINED IN THIS
6:29:07PM BOLD LINE.
6:29:09PM ACCESS TO THE SITE IS FROM BAY VISTA.
6:29:12PM THIS IS ONE POINT OF ACCESS.
6:29:13PM YOU CAN ENTER THE SITE AND EXIT.
6:29:17PM ON THE WEST AND THIS IS SURFACE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE
6:29:20PM LOCATED HERE.
6:29:20PM AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL PARKING WHICH WILL BE
6:29:23PM PROVIDED IN THIS AREA.
6:29:24PM ON THE SITE.
6:29:26PM THIS IS THE LARGER OF THE TWO BUILDINGS AND THEN THIS IS THE
6:29:29PM SMALLER BUILDING ON-SITE.
6:29:31PM WHEN I REFERENCE BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO IN THE STAFF REPORT.
6:29:36PM AND THEN I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
6:29:41PM SO THIS IS THE SITE.
6:29:46PM THIS IS THE WEST VIEW OF THE SITE.
6:29:48PM THIS IS ON MacDILL.
6:29:50PM THIS IS THAT PARKING AREA WHICH I POINTED OUT.
6:29:54PM THAT IS THE NORTH END OF THE SITE.
6:29:56PM THIS IS THE ENTRANCE.
6:29:58PM IF YOU ENTER IN, THE ONE ON THE LEFT AND THEN THE OTHER
6:30:03PM BUILDING.
6:30:03PM THIS IS THE VIEW IN THE PARKING AREA.
6:30:07PM THIS IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE AND THAT'S THE VIEW ON BAY
6:30:14PM VISTA LOOKING EAST.
6:30:16PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON MacDILL.
6:30:22PM THIS IS ACROSS -- THIS IS TO THE WEST, ACROSS THE STREET.
6:30:26PM THIS IS ALSO TO THE WEST.
6:30:31PM AND THEN THIS IS THE NORTH END OF THE SITE THAT YOU CAN SEE
6:30:34PM AND THEN ALSO ACROSS THE STREET.
6:30:36PM THE DRC STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
6:30:43PM INCONSISTENT.
6:30:43PM THERE ARE TWO WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUESTED WITH THIS REQUEST.
6:30:47PM AND THERE ARE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO
6:30:50PM BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
6:30:52PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
6:30:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
6:30:55PM NO.
6:30:56PM APPLICANT.
6:31:01PM >> TYLER HUDSON.
6:31:03PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
6:31:05PM YOU HAVE A LONG AGENDA, SO WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.
6:31:07PM WITH ME HERE THIS EVENING IS MICHAEL LEAVEN WHO IS THE OWNER
6:31:10PM OF THE PROPERTY AND THE PROPRIETOR OF THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT
6:31:14PM WE'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT.
6:31:15PM ALSO HERE IS HIS OPERATING PARTNER AND HIS BROTHER-IN-LAW.
6:31:19PM IT IS A FAMILY AFFAIR.
6:31:20PM ALSO KALEB JOHNSON HERE, THE DAY-TO-DAY MANAGER OF THE
6:31:24PM FACILITY.
6:31:26PM UNTIL THE FLOWER SHOP WINE BAR, I THOUGHT WE WOULD BE THE
6:31:29PM MOST UNUSUAL USE THIS EVENING.
6:31:31PM THIS IS A PRIVATE INDOOR GOLF PRACTICE FACILITY.
6:31:35PM I THINK WE KNOW WHERE IT IS.
6:31:37PM IT'S ON MacDILL ACROSS FROM BAYSHORE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL
6:31:40PM BETWEEN EUCLID AND GANDY.
6:31:42PM THIS IS, AGAIN, A PRIVATE MEMBERSHIP BASED GOLF PRACTICE
6:31:48PM FACILITY.
6:31:49PM TWO GOLF SIMULATOR BAYS WHICH ARE LARGE ROOMS THAT YOU HIT
6:31:53PM GOLF BALLS INTO A WALL.
6:31:56PM IT'S GROWING IN POPULARITY.
6:31:57PM THERE ARE A FEW OF THESE.
6:31:58PM CERTAINLY NOT THE FIRST ONE IN TAMPA.
6:32:00PM WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BE ABLE TO SELL BEER, WINE, AND
6:32:04PM SELTZERS ON PREMISES TO MEMBERS.
6:32:07PM BECAUSE IT'S ACCESSED ONLY WITH YOUR PHONE, WITH A BLUETOOTH
6:32:11PM KEY CARD, WE HAVE PRECISE DATA ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
6:32:13PM THERE.
6:32:14PM AT PEAK IT'S MAYBE 8 PEOPLE OR SO.
6:32:16PM ON AVERAGE THERE'S REALLY TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.
6:32:18PM THIS IS JUST BY ITS NATURE NOT A SITE THAT INVITES A LOT OF
6:32:21PM PEOPLE OR LOT OF EXTERNALITIES THAT SPREAD OUT.
6:32:26PM PRIVATE EVENTS THAT VERY, VERY OCCASIONALLY HOSTED ON-SITE.
6:32:29PM TOP RIGHT, THAT'S ONE OF THE ROOMS.
6:32:31PM BELOW IT IS THE OTHER ROOM.
6:32:33PM THE BOTTOM LEFT IS SORT OF THE COMMON FACILITY THAT JOINS
6:32:36PM THE TWO OF THEM AND IS OCCASIONALLY USED FOR EVENTS.
6:32:40PM ON PARKING, ALSO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, MIKE WILL ADDRESS THIS
6:32:44PM -- NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
6:32:45PM THAT'S BEEN SERVING ICE CREAM SINCE 1995.
6:32:49PM THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
6:32:50PM THIS IS THE FACILITY NEXT DOOR IN THE SAME BUILDING THAT'S
6:32:53PM BEEN THERE SINCE WE BELIEVE THE 1940s.
6:32:56PM WE'RE DELAYED BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE BUT FURTHER DELAYED
6:32:58PM BECAUSE WE DECIDED TO ADD IN THIS PARCEL THAT YOU'RE SEEING
6:33:01PM HERE TO THE NORTH.
6:33:03PM RIGHT NOW WOULDN'T CALL IT REALLY A DIRT LOT.
6:33:05PM MORE OF A COMPACTED CLAY THAT HAS BEEN IN THAT CONDITION FOR
6:33:08PM QUITE SOME TIME.
6:33:09PM BETWEEN THAT, THE SPACES BEHIND THE BUILDING AND THE EIGHT
6:33:13PM NONCONFORMING SPACES THAT FRONT MacDILL AND HAVE FRONTED
6:33:17PM MacDILL FOR QUITE SOME TIME, WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH
6:33:19PM PARKING.
6:33:20PM WE HAVE AS MUCH AS WE NEED FOR ZONING BUT FROM OPERATIONS WE
6:33:23PM HAVE FAR MORE PARKING THAN THE FACILITY HAS EVER NEEDED.
6:33:28PM THIS IS A NEW ONE.
6:33:29PM IT'S NOT A PARKING WAIVER.
6:33:31PM IT IS A PAVING WAIVER.
6:33:32PM THE CODE WOULD REQUIRE US OTHERWISE TO PAVE THIS PARKING
6:33:35PM LOT.
6:33:36PM DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
6:33:38PM THERE IS A REALLY COOL TREE, GRAND TREE.
6:33:40PM VERY HEARTY TREE.
6:33:42PM I DON'T THINK ANY DAMAGE AT ALL FROM THE VARIOUS STORMS
6:33:45PM WE'VE HAD.
6:33:46PM IT WAS THERE LONG BEFORE, BEFORE THE BUILDING WAS THERE AND
6:33:49PM WE DON'T WANT TO COVER IT IN ASPHALT.
6:33:51PM THE PARKING LOT WILL OCCASIONALLY POOL A LITTLE BIT IF
6:33:54PM THERE'S SOME RAIN.
6:33:56PM IN OUR VIEW, SOUTH TAMPA, THIS PIECE OF SOUTH TAMPA DOESN'T
6:34:00PM NEED MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
6:34:02PM THIS IS THE CATEGORY IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
6:34:05PM WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO NOT COVER THIS PARKING LOT IN
6:34:08PM CEMENT.
6:34:08PM ACCESS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL.
6:34:10PM NATURALLY HAS A DRIVE-THROUGH WHICH AS YOU ALL PROBABLY
6:34:13PM KNOW, DRIVE-THROUGHS ARE PRETTY RARE.
6:34:14PM PRETTY VALUABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE TOUGH TO GET NEW ONES.
6:34:17PM THE WAY YOU ENTER THE SITE AND AGAIN, GIVEN THAT IT'S A
6:34:21PM PRIVATE OR A MEMBERSHIP BASED FACILITY, EVERYONE KNOWS HOW
6:34:24PM TO DRIVE IN THIS PLACE BECAUSE THEY ARE PROBABLY ICE CREAM
6:34:27PM PATRONS AS WELL.
6:34:30PM ONCE YOU'RE IN, YOU CAN GO BACK OUT ON BAY VISTA.
6:34:33PM NARROW.
6:34:34PM AREAS ON THE DRIVEWAY.
6:34:35PM ONCE YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE IN.
6:34:36PM THE YELLOW BOXES ARE PARKING.
6:34:38PM AGAIN, THERE'S NO PARKING ISSUES.
6:34:40PM MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING.
6:34:42PM THEN YOU EXIT OUT RIGHT ON MacDILL.
6:34:43PM ONCE YOU'RE IN THE FACILITY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET BACK
6:34:47PM INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:34:48PM WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY COMPLAINTS.
6:34:50PM PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
6:34:52PM WORK AWFULLY HARD TO GET BACK IN THERE.
6:34:55PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
6:34:56PM I'LL ASK MIKE TO SHARE A FEW WORDS ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND AND
6:34:59PM WHAT HE WANTS TO DO HERE AND THEN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
6:35:02PM QUESTIONS.
6:35:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:35:03PM YES, SIR.
6:35:04PM >> MICHAEL EVAN, OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS CO-OWNER
6:35:07PM OF THE BUSINESS.
6:35:08PM BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FOUR YEARS AGO DURING COVID AND I'VE
6:35:12PM LIVED OFF MacDILL IN FOUR DIFFERENT HOMES.
6:35:15PM ONE WAS TWO BLOCKS AWAY.
6:35:16PM NOW I'M IN PALMA CEIA WITH MY FAMILY.
6:35:19PM BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I LOVE MacDILL.
6:35:21PM IT WAS A UNIQUE SPOT ON MacDILL THAT HAD RETAIL.
6:35:24PM HAD ZERO INTEREST IN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE
6:35:26PM GOING TO DEVELOP IT.
6:35:27PM I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.
6:35:29PM NOT IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS.
6:35:30PM BUT THIS PROPERTY WAS UNIQUE.
6:35:32PM MY FAMILY, WHEN I TALKED TO MY WIFE ABOUT IT, SHE SAID
6:35:36PM THAT'S COOL, BUT DON'T EVER LET ANYTHING HAPPEN TO YOGURT
6:35:41PM NATURALLY.
6:35:43PM THEY WILL ALWAYS STAY, AND THEY PROBABLY VERY MUCH ENJOY THE
6:35:47PM LEASE RATE THEY ARE CURRENTLY AT.
6:35:49PM THIS IS NOT A MONETARY THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO
6:35:52PM ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING WITH THIS BEER AND WINE LICENSE FOR THE
6:35:55PM MEMBERS TO ENJOY AT THE GOLF SIMULATOR CLUB.
6:35:59PM IT'S MORE SO THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO HAVE A SELTZER OR
6:36:03PM BEER WHILE THEY ARE HITTING GOLF BALLS FOR AN HOUR THAT THEY
6:36:07PM CAN DO SO.
6:36:08PM NOT SEEKING ANYTHING ON THE LIQUOR SIDE BECAUSE I WANT TO
6:36:11PM MAKE SURE -- I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF OVERINDULGENCE AND
6:36:15PM CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN ANYTHING IN LIFE THAT
6:36:17PM CATERS TO IT.
6:36:18PM THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.
6:36:20PM THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS WHEN WE BOUGHT THE BUILDING AND PUT
6:36:23PM IN A SIMULATOR AND IT JUST KIND OF GREW FROM THERE.
6:36:26PM AND KIND OF WORD OF MOUTH AND HAS BEEN ENJOYED BY MANY
6:36:29PM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF
6:36:32PM GOLF ACCESS WITHIN SOUTH TAMPA.
6:36:34PM HOPING WE CAN MAKE THE MEMBER EXPERIENCE A LITTLE BIT BETTER
6:36:38PM AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
6:36:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
6:36:41PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:36:42PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
6:36:45PM NUMBER 8?
6:36:45PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
6:36:48PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- ANYBODY?
6:36:50PM MIRANDA?
6:36:51PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
6:36:54PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:36:55PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU'RE UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 8.
6:36:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FILE NUMBER AB 2-24-11, AN ORDINANCE BEING
6:37:08PM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
6:37:10PM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2, FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
6:37:15PM SALES -- SMALL VENUE (CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY) AND
6:37:20PM MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT
6:37:23PM CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 3906 SOUTH
6:37:29PM MacDILL AVENUE, UNIT 3910, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
6:37:33PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL
6:37:36PM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED;
6:37:40PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:37:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
6:37:43PM HENDERSON AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
6:37:46PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:37:46PM AYE.
6:37:47PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:37:49PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6:37:50PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
6:37:53PM 2024, AT 10 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
6:37:57PM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:38:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. LEAVEN, MY KIDS AND I THANK YOU FOR
6:38:09PM PROTECTING YOGURT NATURALLY.
6:38:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE BASKIN-ROBBINS BUT ALL YOGURT.
6:38:31PM THEY ALSO MAKE THEIR OWN WAFFLE CONES.
6:38:34PM THE GUY WHO STARTED IT SEARCHED THE WHOLE COUNTRY FOR
6:38:36PM FLAVORS OF WAFFLE CONES.
6:38:38PM IT IS THE BEST WAFFLE CONES YOU'VE HAD IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
6:38:43PM [ LAUGHTER ]
6:38:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
6:38:48PM GO AHEAD.
6:38:51PM >> LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HERE TO
6:38:53PM PRESENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, WHICH IS AB 2-24-13, THIS IS
6:38:58PM FOR THE PROPERTY AT 3636 HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
6:39:01PM THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,
6:39:05PM BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES, PACKAGE SALES
6:39:09PM CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES.
6:39:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ARE YOU NEW?
6:39:13PM >> LEO DEBARDELEBEN: PRETTY NEW.
6:39:16PM THIS IS MY FIRST HEARING.
6:39:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELCOME.
6:39:22PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: THE APPLICANT FOR AB 2-24-13 IS JACK
6:39:27PM MURRAY.
6:39:27PM THE PROPERTY OWNER IS BRM HENDERSON, LLC.
6:39:31PM REQUESTING AB SALES 2,076 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA AND 725
6:39:38PM SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA FOR A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF
6:39:43PM 2801 SQUARE FEET.
6:39:45PM AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
6:39:47PM THE TOTAL PARKING REQUIRED IS 27 SPACES.
6:39:50PM AND THEY ARE PROVIDING 22 SPACES.
6:39:53PM THEY ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THIS STANDARD.
6:39:56PM I'LL PUT UP AN AERIAL MAP.
6:40:01PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED HERE.
6:40:12PM THIS IS HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
6:40:15PM THIS IS BETWEEN SOUTH HIMES STREET AND STERLING AVENUE AND
6:40:21PM SWANN AVENUE IS HERE TO THE NORTH.
6:40:23PM THIS IS -- THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED CG.
6:40:28PM YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING FOLLOWS
6:40:33PM THIS PATTERN ON HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
6:40:36PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED.
6:40:48PM THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY HAS AN AB SALES APPROVAL WITH
6:40:52PM SPECIAL RESTAURANT FOR SALE OF BEER AND WINE.
6:40:54PM THIS REQUEST WILL ADD LIQUOR.
6:40:57PM THE ABILITY TO SELL LIQUOR.
6:40:59PM AND CHANGES THE DESIGNATION TO SMALL VENUE WITH CONSUMPTION
6:41:03PM ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES.
6:41:05PM YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY HERE AND THE SUBJECT SITE.
6:41:10PM THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE PLAN THE OUTDOOR SALES AREA
6:41:15PM AND THE INDOOR SALES AREA.
6:41:16PM THEY ARE PROVIDING PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING
6:41:19PM AND ALSO IN THE REAR WITH ACCESS FROM HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
6:41:23PM I ALSO HAVE SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE.
6:41:28PM THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
6:41:34PM WHEN I WENT TO TAKE PHOTOS.
6:41:38PM THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE SUBJECT SITE OFF OF HENDERSON
6:41:40PM BOULEVARD.
6:41:40PM BEAUTIFUL SUNNY DAY.
6:41:43PM THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE WEST PARKING LOT.
6:41:48PM THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE WEST ELEVATION AND THE PARKING
6:41:53PM LOT.
6:41:55PM THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING NORTHEAST ON HENDERSON BOULEVARD AND
6:41:59PM TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE SURROUNDING AREA IS, THIS
6:42:02PM IS A PHOTO OF THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET.
6:42:05PM SO YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL PATTERN.
6:42:07PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THIS
6:42:11PM APPLICATION AND FOUND -- SORRY -- AND THEY FOUND THE REQUEST
6:42:18PM INCONSISTENT.
6:42:19PM THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO WAIVERS RELATED TO DISTANCE
6:42:22PM SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS AND REDUCTION
6:42:26PM IN THE PARKING, THE REQUIRED PARKING.
6:42:29PM MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED TO BE MADE
6:42:32PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
6:42:34PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
6:42:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
6:42:36PM YES, MA'AM.
6:42:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD NOTICED AND I TALKED TO MS. JOHNSON
6:42:43PM VELEZ ABOUT THIS DURING MY PREP, TOO.
6:42:45PM THIS IS A QUESTION POSSIBLY FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT SEEMS TO
6:42:50PM BE A LOT THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME APPLICATIONS NOT FOR JUST
6:42:53PM EXPANDING TO LIQUOR BUT ALSO PACKAGE SALES.
6:42:57PM WILL THIS HAVE A STORE COMPONENT?
6:43:01PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: I WILL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT.
6:43:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
6:43:06PM THANK YOU.
6:43:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APPLICANT, COME ON UP, SIR.
6:43:09PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:43:10PM WERE YOU SWORN IN.
6:43:14PM >> I WAS.
6:43:14PM TRUETT GARDNER, NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
6:43:17PM TO YOUR QUESTION, IT IS A GOOD ONE AND LITTLE CONFUSING, THE
6:43:20PM SMALL VENUE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISNOMER.
6:43:22PM NOT A PACKAGE STORE, STILL 51% OF SALES HAVE TO BE FOOD
6:43:28PM SALES.
6:43:28PM BUT THIS WILL HAVE A SMALL GRAB AND GO MARKET WHERE YOU'LL
6:43:31PM BE ABLE TO GET FOOD AND ALSO BOTTLED WINE.
6:43:34PM SO THAT'S WHAT TIPS IT OVER TO SMALL VENUE, SMALL VENUE
6:43:38PM VERSUS LARGE VENUE I THINK VENUE IS LESS THAN 200 PEOPLE.
6:43:43PM SMALL VENUE GREATER THAN THAT IS LARGE VENUE.
6:43:45PM HOPE THAT HELPS.
6:43:46PM I HAD THE SAME EXACT QUESTION AND WANTED TO GET TO THE
6:43:49PM BOTTOM OF IT.
6:43:50PM WE ARE THRILLED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
6:43:52PM WE'RE PRESENTING A NEW FRENCH BISTRO CONCEPT BROUGHT TO
6:43:57PM TAMPA BY THE SAME GROUP THAT BROUGHT ROCCA TO ARMATURE
6:44:00PM WORKS.
6:44:00PM THIS IS THEIR CONCEPT.
6:44:02PM AS MENTIONED, IT ALREADY HAS ALCOHOL APPROVAL.
6:44:06PM THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS A LITTLE BIT OFF.
6:44:08PM WE'RE ALSO ADDING SOME OUTDOOR DINING AS WELL TO GIVE IT
6:44:11PM THAT BISTRO FEEL.
6:44:13PM WE HAVE RECEIVED NOTHING BUT POSITIVE COMMENTS AND ALL OF
6:44:18PM THE SOCIALIZATION THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THIS CONCEPT AND DID
6:44:21PM WANT TO ADDRESS THE WAIVER.
6:44:22PM I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LONG DAY AND LONG NIGHT.
6:44:25PM NOT EXPECTING OPPOSITION AT ALL, BUT I DID FEEL IT WAS
6:44:28PM IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS THE WAIVERS.
6:44:30PM ADDIE WILL RUN THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK AND HAPPY TO ANSWER
6:44:33PM QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
6:44:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
6:44:49PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
6:44:50PM ADDIE CLARK, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
6:44:53PM LEO DID A GREAT JOB OF SHOWING WHERE YOU THIS SITE IS.
6:44:56PM I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS.
6:44:58PM I DID WANT TO MENTION IT WAS PREVIOUSLY A LITTLE LEON.
6:45:02PM YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE BUBBLE THERE.
6:45:04PM AGAIN, WHAT IS ALLOWED TODAY?
6:45:05PM SO ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE HIGHLY TECHNICAL AB PERMIT
6:45:10PM FROM 2005.
6:45:11PM AS TRUETT SAID, WE ARE UPDATING THIS TO INCLUDE OUTDOOR
6:45:15PM SPACE AS WELL AS TO CLEAN UP WITH A MORE ACCURATE SURVEY
6:45:18PM THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED SINCE THEN.
6:45:20PM HERE, AGAIN, WE ARE DOING A PROPOSED ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE
6:45:27PM EXISTING BUILDING.
6:45:27PM SO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THEN
6:45:31PM ALSO THE EXISTING PARKING LOT.
6:45:33PM AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY HERE DUE TO THAT OUTDOOR SEATING AND TO
6:45:36PM CORRECT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM BEFORE.
6:45:39PM AGAIN, LEO DID A GREAT JOB OF GOING THROUGH WHAT WE'RE
6:45:44PM SEEKING TODAY, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR SALES AND THEN THE
6:45:48PM SQUARE FOOTAGE WE'RE PROPOSING AS WELL AS OUTDOOR SQUARE
6:45:50PM FOOTAGE.
6:45:51PM IMPORTANT TO NOTE, TOO, THAT THE PATIO DOES EXIST TODAY.
6:45:54PM WE ARE JUST NOW UTILIZING IT FOR OUTDOOR SPACE.
6:45:57PM AND GOING INTO THE WAIVERS, SO WE BELIEVE THAT WAIVER NUMBER
6:46:00PM ONE ABOUT THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REALLY IS JUST AN EFFECT
6:46:03PM OF DOING BUSINESS ON HENDERSON.
6:46:05PM AGAIN, THIS WAS AN EXISTING RESTAURANT BEFOREHAND AND THE
6:46:11PM LOCATION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, HENDERSON, HAS
6:46:13PM BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AS WELL.
6:46:16PM AND THEN FOR THE SECOND WAIVER, REGARDING PARKING, WE HAVE
6:46:20PM 27 SPACES REQUIRED.
6:46:21PM ACTUALLY 18 PROVIDED.
6:46:23PM THAT WAS JUST ONE CORRECTION WE WANTED TO POINT OUT.
6:46:26PM BUT THERE IS SOME NUANCE TO THAT.
6:46:28PM YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT PARKING IS EXISTING AND WE ARE
6:46:31PM ACTUALLY -- WE HAVE 18 SPACES ON-SITE IN BLUE SHADED BUT
6:46:36PM THEN THERE ARE ACTUALLY SEVEN SHARED SPACES AT THE PROPERTY
6:46:39PM RIGHT NEXT DOOR AVAILABLE VIA A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT.
6:46:43PM SO WE HAVE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO THE SEVEN SPACES STARTING AT
6:46:46PM 5 P.M. EACH NIGHT AND NONEXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO THE SEVEN SPACES
6:46:51PM 24/7.
6:46:53PM WE BELIEVE THEN WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF 25 TOTAL
6:46:56PM SPACES WHEN THE RESTAURANT IS IN OPERATION.
6:46:58PM AND THEN HERE WE GO IS A SNIPPET OF THE SHARED PARKING
6:47:04PM AGREEMENT, ESTABLISHING THE RIGHT TO A MINIMUM OF SEVEN
6:47:07PM SPACES.
6:47:08PM THAT'S GOING INTO THE DISTANCE SEPARATION.
6:47:11PM WE KNOW YOU'VE HAD A LONG DAY, SO WE'RE HERE FOR ANY
6:47:14PM QUESTIONS.
6:47:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
6:47:16PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 9?
6:47:20PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
6:47:22PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
6:47:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:47:24PM AYE.
6:47:25PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:47:26PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
6:47:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEFORE LITTLE LEON, FAVORITE ETHIOPIAN
6:47:35PM RESTAURANT.
6:47:35PM THAT IS NOW SOUTH OF FOWLER.
6:47:38PM THIS IS FILE AB 2-24-13, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
6:47:47PM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
6:47:50PM PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,
6:47:54PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES/PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF
6:47:57PM PREMISES AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS
6:48:00PM OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT
6:48:06PM CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 3636 HENDERSON
6:48:09PM BOULEVARD AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3
6:48:11PM PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
6:48:14PM CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2005-208,
6:48:18PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:48:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
6:48:20PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
6:48:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
6:48:23PM AYE.
6:48:24PM ANY OPPOSED?
6:48:25PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
6:48:27PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 19,
6:48:30PM 2024, AT 10:00 A.M. IN THE BEAUTIFUL OLD CITY HALL CITY
6:48:34PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA,
6:48:37PM FLORIDA, 33602.
6:48:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:48:47PM ITEM 10.
6:48:48PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
6:48:51PM ITEM 10 IS AB 2-24-15, PROPERTY AT 2234 EAST 7TH AVENUE.
6:48:58PM THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY STEVE MICHELINI.
6:49:01PM REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE VENUE
6:49:04PM CLASSIFICATION, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY FOR THE SALE OF
6:49:08PM BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
6:49:08PM THIS REQUEST CONTAINS INDOOR AB SALES AREA ONLY.
6:49:12PM THERE'S NO OUTDOOR SALES AREA PROPOSED.
6:49:15PM THIS WOULD CONTAIN 13,716 SQUARE FEET OF AB SALES AREA.
6:49:20PM THE HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
6:49:24PM PARKING SPACES REQUIRED ARE 46 AND PARKING SPACES PROVIDED
6:49:28PM IS 95 SPACES.
6:49:30PM THE USE PROPOSED IS A RESTAURANT WITH A GAME ROOM COMPONENT
6:49:36PM WITH THIS CLASSIFICATION.
6:49:41PM I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED IN THE RECORD.
6:49:44PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT PARCEL.
6:49:49PM THIS CORNER LOT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST.
6:49:52PM SO THIS IS 22nd STREET.
6:49:54PM THIS IS EAST 7TH AVENUE.
6:49:55PM THIS IS 23rd STREET.
6:49:58PM AND THEN THIS IS ON 8th AVENUE.
6:50:03PM SO THIS REQUEST WOULD CONTAIN THIS AREA WHICH IS OUTLINED IN
6:50:07PM RED.
6:50:07PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
6:50:10PM THE SITE IS ACCESSED ON 7th AVENUE.
6:50:12PM YOU CAN ACCESS THE SITE HERE TO THE SURFACE PARKING LOCATED
6:50:15PM HERE OR YOU CAN ACCESS THROUGH THIS POINT AND HAVE SURFACE
6:50:20PM PARKING, 90-DEGREE PARKING THAT'S LOCATED HERE ON-SITE.
6:50:24PM I HAVE THE ZONING MAP OF THE AREA.
6:50:29PM SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE THAT'S IDENTIFIED HERE OUTLINED
6:50:32PM IN RED.
6:50:33PM THIS IS 22nd STREET.
6:50:35PM THIS IS 8th AVENUE.
6:50:36PM AND THIS IS 7th AVENUE.
6:50:38PM THIS IS THE STRUCTURE HERE THAT'S UNDER THE AB SALES
6:50:42PM REQUEST, THAT'S LOCATED HERE.
6:50:44PM AND THIS IS THE CORNER PARCEL WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THAT
6:50:47PM BOUNDARY.
6:50:47PM BUT YOU CAN SEE IT HAS THE DUAL ZONING, YC 5 AND YC 7
6:50:53PM ZONING.
6:50:53PM IT IS IN THE, OF COURSE, YBOR CITY SPECIAL DISTRICT.
6:50:59PM THERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE TO SHARE.
6:51:03PM THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE.
6:51:06PM THAT IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE.
6:51:08PM THAT'S ON 7th AVENUE.
6:51:09PM THIS SHOWS A PICTURE OF THE SITE AND THE PARKING THAT'S ON
6:51:14PM THE WEST SIDE.
6:51:16PM THIS IS INTERNAL TO THE SITE TO THE PARKING AREA LOOKING AT
6:51:20PM THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
6:51:24PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW, ALSO GIVES YOU A SHOT ACROSS THE
6:51:27PM STREET IN THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S THERE.
6:51:31PM THIS IS NORTH.
6:51:32PM THIS IS JUST A VIEW LOOKING NORTH AND THAT'S BEHIND THE
6:51:35PM SITE.
6:51:36PM THIS IS ACROSS EAST 7TH AVENUE.
6:51:38PM YOU CAN SEE THE VACANT LOT AND COMMERCIAL THAT'S TO THE
6:51:41PM SOUTH.
6:51:42PM THIS IS THE SITE ON THE LEFT, THIS IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING EAST
6:51:48PM ON 7th AVENUE.
6:51:50PM THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE, ANOTHER VIEW, COMMERCIAL.
6:51:57PM AND THAT'S THE VIEW LOOKING WEST ON 7th AVENUE.
6:52:00PM THAT'S THE SITE THAT IS TO THE WEST.
6:52:06PM AND THEN THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
6:52:08PM YOU CAN SEE THE VACANT PARKING THAT'S THERE.
6:52:10PM THE DRC STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
6:52:16PM INCONSISTENT.
6:52:16PM IT IS DUE TO THE WAIVER OF THE DISTANCE SEPARATION.
6:52:20PM ANYTIME THERE IS A WAIVER REQUESTED TO DISTANCE SEPARATION,
6:52:23PM STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
6:52:26PM BUT THERE ARE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO
6:52:29PM BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING ALSO WITH THIS
6:52:32PM REQUEST.
6:52:32PM AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
6:52:35PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
6:52:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
6:52:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM?
6:52:41PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES
6:52:43PM ESTABLISHMENTS.
6:52:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, OKAY.
6:52:45PM THANK YOU.
6:52:45PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: FROM 250 TO 60.
6:52:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:52:48PM APPLICANT, COME ON UP, SIR.
6:52:57PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
6:52:58PM STEVE MICHELINI.
6:52:59PM HOLD MY TIME FOR A SECOND.
6:53:09PM WHAT I'VE JUST HANDED OVER TO MARTIN SHELBY IS THE SECURITY
6:53:24PM REPORT AND THE SOUND ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE CONDUCTED IN
6:53:30PM ADVANCE.
6:53:31PM THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO MOVE INTO A FULLY RESTORED
6:53:36PM HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
6:53:39PM IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING.
6:53:42PM IT'S COMPLETELY BUILT OUT.
6:53:44PM IT'S GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION REVIEWS.
6:53:47PM IT'S PASSED ALL OF THE REVIEWS, AND IT HAS ITS CERTIFICATE
6:53:50PM OF OCCUPANCY.
6:53:52PM WE'VE ADDED, THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL ADDS A COUNTRY AND
6:53:59PM WESTERN ELEMENT TO YBOR CITY AS WELL AS A FULL SERVICE
6:54:05PM KITCHEN THAT OPERATES THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THE BUILDING AND
6:54:08PM THE OPERATIONS ARE OPEN.
6:54:10PM THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR A RESTAURANT WHICH REQUIRES
6:54:14PM 51% FOOD TO 49% ALCOHOL AT ALL TIMES.
6:54:20PM AND THE VENUE CANNOT OPERATE WITHOUT THE KITCHEN BEING OPEN.
6:54:24PM THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF EXISTING BUILDING WHICH IS LOCATED
6:54:37PM HERE.
6:54:37PM WE HAVE PROVIDED 95 PARKING SPACES.
6:54:40PM AND 46 SPACES ARE REQUIRED.
6:54:43PM THIS IS A NEW CONCEPT BEING BROUGHT TO THE TAMPA AREA, AND
6:54:54PM IT INVOLVES AN ENTERTAINMENT AREA WHERE MUSIC IS PROVIDED IN
6:55:01PM A LIVE FASHION, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND SATURDAY.
6:55:05PM BUT THE FACILITIES ARE OPEN TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.
6:55:10PM IT IS A FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT.
6:55:15PM THE MUSIC VENUE OPERATES, AS I SAID, LIVE MUSIC ON THURSDAY
6:55:17PM FRIDAY, SATURDAY.
6:55:18PM WE CONDUCTED A SOUND ANALYSIS WHICH YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF
6:55:22PM YOU.
6:55:24PM AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THAT WITH YOU.
6:55:26PM THE MAIN PA SYSTEM WAS ANALYZED, AND IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE
6:55:34PM WITHIN APPROPRIATE LEVELS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
6:55:37PM THE ENTRYWAY DOORS, WE DID AN ANALYSIS THERE.
6:55:40PM WE ALSO DID ONE FROM ACROSS THE STREET, ALL OF WHICH ARE
6:55:44PM CERTIFIED BY A SOUND ENGINEER.
6:55:47PM AND YOU HAVE THAT REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU.
6:55:49PM WE'LL BE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT AS PART OF OUR RECORD.
6:55:52PM WE ALSO ENGAGED A SECURITY COMPANY.
6:55:57PM WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE
6:56:00PM HAD INVOLVED BOTH THE SOUND AND THE SECURITY AND HOW YOU
6:56:04PM WERE GOING TO HANDLE THAT.
6:56:06PM WE DID HIRE WARDEN SECURITY AND I HAVE RUBEN, THE OWNER AND
6:56:12PM DIRECTOR OF THAT AGENCY, TO COME UP AND FILL YOU IN ON ALL
6:56:15PM THE MEASURES THAT WERE BEING EMPLOYED THERE.
6:56:19PM IN TERMS OF MEETING THE CRITERIA, INGRESS AND EGRESS, DUE
6:56:25PM CONSIDERATION HAS TO BE GIVEN FOR THE ADEQUACY OF INGRESS
6:56:27PM AND EGRESS.
6:56:28PM AND THAT WAS APPROVED PER THE CITY OF TAMPA SITE PLAN FOR
6:56:33PM THE CONSTRUCTION AND SITE PLAN AND ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION
6:56:36PM ELEMENTS WERE APPROVED.
6:56:37PM OFF-STREET PARKING AND LOADING WAS ALSO APPROVED VIA THE
6:56:40PM SITE PLAN.
6:56:42PM AS I SAID, THAT'S FULLY PERMITTED AND READY TO GO.
6:56:47PM REFUSE AND SERVICE AREAS, THAT ALSO WAS APPROVED VIA THE
6:56:51PM SITE PLAN.
6:56:52PM LIGHTING, THERE'S INSIDE AND OUTSIDE LIGHTING IN THE PARKING
6:56:56PM LOT TO ENHANCE THE SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS.
6:56:59PM UTILITIES WERE APPROVED AGAIN PER THE BUILDING PLAN AND
6:57:04PM SPECIFIED.
6:57:05PM THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT WAS
6:57:09PM EXISTING BUILDING.
6:57:12PM GENERALLY, ADJOINING NEARBY PROPERTIES, THERE ARE NO
6:57:14PM ADJOINING PROPERTIES, EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING LOT AND THE
6:57:17PM VACANT LOT TO THE NORTH.
6:57:19PM THIS IS WITHIN THE URBAN VILLAGE AND WE ARE WITHIN 250 FEET
6:57:24PM OF ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT SELLING ALCOHOL.
6:57:28PM AND AS STAFF HAS POINTED OUT, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE
6:57:30PM WAIVER.
6:57:31PM THERE ARE NO OPERATIONAL OR CONSTRUCTION WAIVERS THAT ARE
6:57:36PM BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS PROPERTY.
6:57:37PM IT IS ONLY AN INSIDE SERVICE AREA.
6:57:42PM THERE ARE NO OUTSIDE VENUES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT IN
6:57:45PM ANY WAY.
6:57:46PM THE REST OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE'VE MET INCLUDE THE USE TO
6:57:55PM ENSURE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE AND GENERAL
6:58:00PM WELFARE OF OTHERS.
6:58:01PM AND IT IS DEVELOPED AND OPERATED ACCORDING TO SITE PLAN, TO
6:58:06PM THE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
6:58:07PM WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY EXTERIOR CHANGES.
6:58:10PM EXISTING BUILDING, AS I SAID, HISTORIC AND WAS FULLY
6:58:13PM RESTORED TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE STANDARDS.
6:58:16PM THE USE, WHICH IS LISTED AS A SPECIAL USE DISTRICT, IS
6:58:19PM PROPOSED AND COMPATIBLE AND THE USE IS SIMILAR TO OTHERS IN
6:58:23PM THE AREA, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE NOT OF THIS PARTICULAR CULTURAL
6:58:27PM SELECTION.
6:58:28PM THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH CONTIGUOUS AND SURROUNDING
6:58:32PM PROPERTIES AND THE USE OF THE PUBLIC.
6:58:34PM AS I SAID, IT'S VACANT EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING LOT THAT IS
6:58:38PM ADJACENT TO IT THAT SERVICES THIS BUILDING AND THE VACANT
6:58:41PM LOT TO THE NORTH.
6:58:42PM THE USE WILL NOT ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT OR ENCOURAGE MORE
6:58:46PM INTENSIVE OR INCOMPATIBLE USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
6:58:50PM IT'S NOT MORE INTENSIVE AND IT DOES NOT ESTABLISH ANY USE
6:58:54PM THAT WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CITY.
6:58:56PM I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO RUBEN WARRIOR WHO CAN TALK TO
6:59:02PM YOU ABOUT THE SECURITY MEASURES THAT WE'VE EMPLOYED.
6:59:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HELLO, SIR.
6:59:09PM >> RUBEN WARRIOR.
6:59:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
6:59:12PM >> YOU KNOW, I WAS ASKED BY SADDLE BAGS TO ASSESS THEIR
6:59:17PM SECURITY ASSESSMENT, THEIR SECURITY PLAN, SO I USED TEN
6:59:21PM STEPS THROUGH THERE AS I WENT THROUGH THEIR PLAN.
6:59:24PM THE FIRST SET OF PLANS WAS OKAY, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SOME
6:59:29PM EXTRA ADVANCEMENTS ON THAT.
6:59:30PM SO I JUST HAD TO MAKE A FEW CHANGES AND NOW I SUBMITTED THE
6:59:35PM REPORT TO YOU GUYS HERE.
6:59:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
6:59:40PM ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
6:59:42PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
6:59:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
6:59:45PM ASSESSMENT.
6:59:46PM IT LOOKED VERY NICE.
6:59:47PM I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS SADDLE BAGS, YOUR COMPANY, I
6:59:52PM GUESS, THIS NEW VENUE, IS RIGHT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM A
6:59:56PM RESTAURANT THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
6:59:59PM ONE OF THE FINEST IN THE COUNTRY.
7:00:01PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO TELL YOU.
7:00:03PM THANK YOU.
7:00:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
7:00:12PM YES, MA'AM.
7:00:17PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
7:00:19PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
7:00:20PM I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION ON THE REQUESTED AB
7:00:24PM SALES CLASSIFICATION.
7:00:25PM SO THE REQUEST IS FOR A VENUE DESIGNATION.
7:00:30PM AND I HAVE HEARD MENTION OF REPORTING THIS IS A RESTAURANT.
7:00:35PM YOU CAN HAVE THE USE OF A RESTAURANT, BUT THE DESIGNATION OF
7:00:38PM VENUE DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO REPORT ANNUALLY.
7:00:41PM THE ONLY WAY THE ESTABLISHMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REPORT
7:00:44PM ANNUALLY IS BY ADDING A CONDITION AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL.
7:00:48PM SO IF THAT IS THE DESIRE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE HEARING, IF YOU
7:00:52PM WOULD MAKE THAT DIRECTION THAT THAT CONDITION BE ADDED TO
7:00:55PM THE SITE PLAN.
7:00:56PM OTHERWISE, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO REPORT ANNUALLY.
7:00:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:01:01PM >> AS THE APPLICANT, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THAT CONDITION BE
7:01:04PM PLACED ON THE SITE PLAN.
7:01:07PM IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION TO AVOID THAT.
7:01:12PM WE INTENDED ALL ALONG FOR THE RESTAURANT TO BE FULLY
7:01:15PM OPERATIONAL, WE WERE THE DOORS WERE OPEN AND PATRONS WERE
7:01:18PM THERE.
7:01:19PM AS I SAID, WE ENGAGED A SECURITY CONSULTANT BECAUSE THAT
7:01:23PM COMMENT CAME UP AS PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND THE
7:01:28PM SOUND AND ALSO THE SECURITY ELEMENT.
7:01:31PM WE ARE REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S IN AN URBAN VILLAGE IN YBOR
7:01:34PM CITY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE SOUND ATTENUATION STUDY, BUT WE
7:01:39PM ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PLACE THE SECURITY PLAN WITH YOU.
7:01:43PM BUT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADD THOSE TO THE SITE PLAN AS A
7:01:48PM CONDITION AS WELL.
7:01:49PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL.
7:01:52PM LIKE I SAID, IT'S A NEW CONCEPT, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN MEASURES
7:01:57PM TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS NOT OFFENSIVE AND/OR CREATE ANY
7:02:04PM ADVERSE IMPACT TO ANY SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER.
7:02:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
7:02:09PM WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
7:02:10PM I HAVE SOME REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE.
7:02:12PM IS FRAN CONSTANTINO ONLINE?
7:02:15PM IS CHRISTINA JOHNSON ONLINE?
7:02:17PM DID YOU SWEAR THEM IN OR DO WE NEED TO SWEAR THEM IN?
7:02:21PM FRAN AND CHRISTINA, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS, RAISE YOUR
7:02:25PM RIGHT HAND, AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
7:02:27PM FRAN, TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
7:02:40PM ALL RIGHT.
7:02:47PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, FRAN, AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU
7:02:51PM IN.
7:02:51PM GO AHEAD.
7:02:51PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
7:02:54PM YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
7:02:56PM TRUTH?
7:02:58PM >> YES.
7:03:02PM >> YES.
7:03:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FRAN CONSTANTINO IS THE FIRST SPEAKER
7:03:06PM FOLLOWED BY CHRISTINA JOHNSON.
7:03:08PM STATE YOUR NAME.
7:03:09PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
7:03:14PM >> FRAN CONSTANTINO.
7:03:16PM APPRECIATE IT.
7:03:17PM I WOULD BE THERE WITH YOU TONIGHT BUT I'M NURSING TWO
7:03:21PM FRACTURED RIBS.
7:03:22PM THIS IS MY FIRST TIME APPEARING VIRTUALLY.
7:03:24PM I BEG YOUR FORGIVENESS.
7:03:27PM I SENT AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY.
7:03:28PM LIKE TO READ A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS IN THE RECORD.
7:03:30PM THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS WITH US BEFORE AND
7:03:33PM THOSE OF YOU WHO WILL LEARN OF THE ISSUES THAT HISTORIC EAST
7:03:36PM YBOR CITY HAS BEEN THROUGH FOR YEARS WITH SHOOTINGS, FIGHTS,
7:03:39PM CROWD NOISE, UNDERAGE DRINKING, ILLEGAL PARKING, DEBRIS, PUT
7:03:43PM ON YOUR SEAT BELTS BECAUSE HERE WE GO AGAIN IF THIS
7:03:46PM APPLICATION IS APPROVED.
7:03:47PM WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THE ABOVE WITH MUCH SMALLER
7:03:51PM VENUES SUCH AS CLUB MANILA, PATRON AND THE BROADWAY BAR.
7:03:55PM SADDLE BAGS YBOR IS A LARGER VENUE AND ADVERTISES ITSELF AS
7:04:00PM ULTIMATE YBOR CITY DESTINATION WITH HOURS THAT ARE TOTALLY
7:04:04PM ACCEPTABLE.
7:04:04PM I THINK THEY ORIGINALLY PRESENTED SEVEN DAYS A WEEK UNTIL 3
7:04:08PM IN THE MORNING.
7:04:09PM I UNDERSTAND THEY MODIFIED TO THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY
7:04:12PM UNTIL 2.
7:04:14PM AT ONE MEETING THE REPRESENTATIVE STATED THEY WOULD BRING IN
7:04:17PM TOP NAME COUNTRY BANDS THAT WILL START AT 10:30 IN THE
7:04:20PM EVENING, WHICH IS ABOUT WHEN THE RESIDENTS ARE PLANNING TO
7:04:23PM RETIRE FOR THE EVENING.
7:04:24PM WHY WASTE MORE TPD TIME AND RESOURCES WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY
7:04:28PM STRETCHED ACROSS SOHO AND THE REST OF THE CITY?
7:04:31PM AS IT IS, ESTABLISHMENTS ON THE WEST SIDE OF YBOR CITY
7:04:35PM WEREN'T ABLE TO GET ENOUGH OFF-DUTY OFFICERS TO SIGN UP OR
7:04:38PM VOLUNTEER AS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE.
7:04:40PM SADDLE BAGS STATED THEY WILL HAVE TOP-NOTCH SECURITY ON-SITE
7:04:45PM WITH NO POWER TO MAKE ARREST IF NECESSARY.
7:04:48PM SO WHAT'S THE POINT?
7:04:49PM IF THEY STILL NEED TPD RESOURCES IF ANYTHING ERUPTS.
7:04:55PM CITY INSTALLED PAY BY PLATE ON THE EAST SIDE OF 7th
7:04:59PM AVENUE.
7:04:59PM THAT CAN ONLY MEAN THAT THE PATRONS WILL BE PARKING IN THE
7:05:03PM RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, OUR PROPERTY.
7:05:04PM THE PROOF OF THAT IS WHEN THERE ARE NIGHT PARADES AND
7:05:08PM NEIGHBORHOOD GET-TOGETHERS, INUNDATED WITH PEOPLE AVOIDING
7:05:14PM PAID PARKING, THEREFORE DRINKING, RELIEVING THEMSELVES AND
7:05:17PM THROWING TRASH ALL OVER OUR YARDS.
7:05:19PM THIS MUST BE STOPPED, PERIOD.
7:05:21PM THERE ARE MANY MORE INCOME PRODUCING BUSINESSES THAT CAN GO
7:05:24PM THERE OTHER THAN A DRUNK RIDING A MECHANICAL BULL UNTIL TWO
7:05:29PM OR THREE IN THE MORNING AND THEN DRIVING THROUGH
7:05:31PM NEIGHBORHOODS, BLARING MUSIC AS THEY EXIT.
7:05:33PM I AM OBVIOUSLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION.
7:05:38PM I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS.
7:05:40PM THEY ARE USING A FORMULA THAT FOR 95 PARKING SPACES FOR 803
7:05:48PM PEOPLE VISITING THIS VENUE.
7:05:49PM I DON'T KNOW, THAT MAY WORK ON THE WEST SIDE OF YBOR BECAUSE
7:05:56PM THERE ARE PARKING GARAGES AND PARKING LOTS, BUT FOR THE WEST
7:05:59PM SIDE, THERE'S NO PLACE TO GO THERE.
7:06:00PM AND THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO HAVE 50 EMPLOYEES.
7:06:03PM WHERE ARE THOSE EMPLOYEES GOING TO PARK?
7:06:05PM IN THE 95 PARKING SPACES OR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD?
7:06:10PM THERE IS A ROOFTOP BAR BUT THEY ARE NOT ENCROACHING INTO OUR
7:06:16PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
7:06:16PM WHEN I EXTENDED THE HISTORIC DISTRICT -- FROM THE COLUMBIA
7:06:22PM TO 26th STREET, WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS IN MIND.
7:06:24PM IT WAS ALL TO KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL.
7:06:26PM I'M JUST ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN REJECTING THIS.
7:06:32PM THANK YOU.
7:06:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:06:33PM CHRISTINA JOHNSON, YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER.
7:06:35PM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
7:06:36PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
7:06:38PM >> HELLO.
7:06:38PM I'M CHRISTINA JOHNSON.
7:06:40PM 2407 EAST 10th AVENUE.
7:06:42PM I LIVE THREE BLOCKS BEHIND THE VENUE.
7:06:48PM I ATTENDED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING FOR ALL INTENTS AND
7:06:53PM PURPOSES, THE LAYOUT AND LIMITED MENU, THE WAY IT IS SET UP,
7:06:58PM IT IS A CLUB.
7:06:59PM IT IS A COUNTRY CLUB, BUT STILL A CLUB.
7:07:02PM IT IS A CLUB THAT HAS VENUES, MUSIC BANDS PLAYING BEGINNING
7:07:08PM AT 10:00, I THINK.
7:07:11PM IT'S A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'VE NOT -- I MEAN,
7:07:18PM HAVE ANOTHER CLUB IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO RIGHT
7:07:22PM DOWN THE STREET FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY BAR DOESN'T MAKE A LOT
7:07:26PM OF SENSE.
7:07:27PM THE PARKING IS A HUGE ISSUE.
7:07:29PM I MEAN, WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK?
7:07:32PM WE KNOW WE'LL END UP WITH DAMAGED FENCES, DAMAGE TO
7:07:35PM PROPERTIES, DRUNKS HAVING FIGHTS AND BRAWLS IN THE MIDDLE OF
7:07:38PM THE STREET.
7:07:39PM PEOPLE THROWING THEIR GLASS CONTAINERS OUT ONTO THE STREETS.
7:07:43PM HAVE A VENUE THAT STARTS THAT LATE FOR MUSIC IS CLEARLY NOT
7:07:50PM A RESTAURANT.
7:07:53PM IT'S GOT LIKE FIVE THINGS ON THE MENU.
7:07:57PM FIVE FRIED THINGS ON THE MENU.
7:08:00PM THE NOISE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE.
7:08:03PM OF COURSE, I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE SLEEP.
7:08:06PM WE HAVE TO SLEEP.
7:08:07PM WE CAN STILL ALREADY HEAR SOME OF THE NOISE FROM 7th
7:08:10PM AVENUE PROPER THAT COMES THROUGH ON CERTAIN WINDY DAYS,
7:08:14PM COMES RIGHT THROUGH OUR HOUSES AS IT IS.
7:08:17PM AND THIS IS RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD.
7:08:19PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
7:08:20PM I HOPE YOU VOTE NO ON THIS.
7:08:22PM THANK YOU.
7:08:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
7:08:30PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
7:08:38PM ITEM?
7:08:38PM PLEASE COME UP.
7:08:39PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
7:08:47PM YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
7:09:09PM >> HI.
7:09:09PM MY NAME IS DENISE SANSUR.
7:09:13PM I'M IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL TODAY, I WANT TO FIRST THANK YOU
7:09:16PM FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
7:09:18PM JUST TO SPEAK ON THE CONCERNS THAT MANY OF US HAVE FOR
7:09:22PM SADDLE BAGS COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
7:09:24PM NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD MR. MICHELINI SPEAK, BUT I
7:09:29PM NEVER HEARD ANY REFERENCE ABOUT THE RESIDENTS IN THE
7:09:32PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
7:09:33PM THIS ESTABLISHMENT WOULD BE WITHIN 50 SQUARE FEET OF THE
7:09:39PM FIRST HOME AND SO TO THE OTHER SPEAKER'S POINT IS THAT WE
7:09:47PM WILL BE AFFECTED BY NOISE AND PARKING.
7:09:52PM AND FOR A VENUE OF THIS SIZE, 1300 SQUARE FEET WITH A
7:09:55PM CAPACITY OF 800 PERSONS, YOU KNOW, AND A STAFF OF 50, WHERE
7:10:01PM ARE THE STAFF GOING TO PARK?
7:10:02PM WHERE ARE 803 PEOPLE GOING TO PARK?
7:10:05PM WE THAT LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE AFFECTED BY WHEN
7:10:10PM THERE ARE PARADES.
7:10:11PM THEY DO COME AND PARK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
7:10:14PM THERE IS THE NOISE.
7:10:15PM THERE IS THE TRASH.
7:10:16PM THERE ARE THE FIGHTING.
7:10:18PM SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.
7:10:22PM FIRST OF ALL, THIS ESTABLISHMENT ITSELF FOR AS LONG AS WE
7:10:25PM KNOW HAS ALWAYS BEEN OVER A HUNDRED YEARS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN A
7:10:28PM RETAIL OR A FURNITURE STORE.
7:10:30PM IT NEVER HAD ANY LIQUOR SOLD ON THE PREMISES.
7:10:34PM WE WANT TO KEEP THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF YBOR CITY.
7:10:39PM FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN ON THE APPLICATION, THEY HAVE ONLY
7:10:42PM APPLIED FOR A WAIVER FROM DISTANCE FROM OTHER BUSINESS
7:10:46PM ESTABLISHMENTS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL
7:10:50PM THAT THEY ARE NOT WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE SPACES --
7:10:53PM APPROPRIATE DISTANCE.
7:10:55PM THE PAPER THAT I PASSED OFF TO YOU, THIS IS ALL THE
7:11:01PM NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES THAT SURROUND SADDLE BAGS.
7:11:05PM IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, THEY ALL CLOSE BY 10 P.M.
7:11:07PM WE'RE NOT EXACTLY AGAINST THE PROPOSED VENUE, BUT IF THEY
7:11:14PM WOULD ADHERE TO A BETTER TIME WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO
7:11:18PM DISRUPT THE RESIDENTS, THEN MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
7:11:21PM CAN WORK WITH.
7:11:22PM BUT AS IT IS NOW, IF YOU START A VENUE AT 10 P.M., IT'S NOT
7:11:26PM GOING TO REALLY GO ON UNTIL 11:00, THAT MEANS WE'LL HAVE
7:11:29PM SPILLAGE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS UNTIL 2 AND 3 A.M. IN THE
7:11:33PM MORNING.
7:11:34PM AS YOU CAN SEE FROM HERE, THERE'S PLENTY OF RESIDENTS IN THE
7:11:37PM NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL BE AFFECTED.
7:11:38PM MY OTHER CONCERN IS THAT THEY WILL NOT MEET THE 51% OF FOOD
7:11:46PM SALES.
7:11:46PM IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR MENU, IT'S FRIED FOOD.
7:11:50PM THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT THAT CLOSES AT 10 HAS BETTER FOOD.
7:11:55PM AND I DON'T THINK THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT.
7:11:57PM IT IS ON THEIR APPLICATION AS A RESTAURANT CLUB, NOT AS A
7:12:00PM RESTAURANT.
7:12:01PM IN ENDING, IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT, THEN PLEASE
7:12:04PM TREAT THEM AS SUCH.
7:12:05PM THANK YOU.
7:12:06PM AND I YIELD MY TIME.
7:12:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
7:12:08PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:12:08PM YES, SIR.
7:12:09PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
7:12:11PM >> GOOD EVENING.
7:12:11PM JOSE CAYON, I LIVE ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM IT.
7:12:17PM I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER TEN YEARS.
7:12:19PM IN REGARDS TO SADDLE BAGS, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT
7:12:24PM THE ESTABLISHMENT WHEN I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT IT, I REACHED
7:12:27PM OUT TO THE LANDLORD AND ASKED WHAT THIS BUSINESS IS ALL
7:12:31PM ABOUT AND THEY MENTIONED IT WAS A RESTAURANT.
7:12:33PM WE ALL GOT EXCITED.
7:12:34PM WE NEEDED RESTAURANTS.
7:12:36PM BUT COMING TO FIND OUT AFTER A WHILE, AFTER FINDING SOME
7:12:41PM NEWS ON THE WEBSITE AND THEN LOOKING INTO THE APPLICATION
7:12:43PM THAT THIS WAS BEING REFERRED AS A RESTAURANT CLUB COUNTRY
7:12:47PM STYLE, THEN 13,000 SQUARE FEET LIKE SAID BEFORE, 800
7:12:52PM CAPACITY.
7:12:53PM I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, EAST YBOR HAS A POPULATION OF 600.
7:12:57PM 600 PEOPLE.
7:12:58PM A LOT OF PEOPLE MENTIONED TODAY IN A PREVIOUS ITEM
7:13:02PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
7:13:03PM WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, COTTAGES, BUT
7:13:08PM MOSTLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES FOR A HUNDRED YEARS.
7:13:11PM NOW WE CAN'T EVEN GET A GROCERY STORE.
7:13:17PM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
7:13:31PM -- CAN'T STOP THEM FROM HAVING CONCERTS OR HAVING EVENTS,
7:13:42PM ANY DAY OF THE WEEK IN THE EVENING.
7:13:44PM SO BASICALLY EVERY EVENING WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO ENJOY OUR
7:13:48PM HOMES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALMOST A THOUSAND PEOPLE CLOGGING
7:13:54PM OUR STREETS.
7:13:55PM WHEN WE HAVE PARADES IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH
7:13:59PM GETTING EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
7:14:00PM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DESIGNED FOR BUGGIES AND HORSES.
7:14:07PM THE STREETS ARE VERY NARROW.
7:14:08PM WE DON'T HAVE DRIVEWAYS, DON'T HAVE GARAGES FOR THE MOST
7:14:11PM PART.
7:14:12PM WE ALREADY STRUGGLE WITH PARKING.
7:14:13PM IT MAY NOT BE -- THEY ARE PROVIDING 90 PARKING SPACES.
7:14:18PM THEY HAVE 50 EMPLOYEES.
7:14:20PM WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK?
7:14:21PM THIS IS TOTALLY FOR ME THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE IN THE
7:14:24PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
7:14:24PM I LOVE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE HISTORICALLY WITH THE BUILDING,
7:14:27PM BUT THIS BUILDING HAS ALWAYS BEEN RETAIL AND THAT WAS THE
7:14:30PM EXPECTATION WHEN IT WAS RENOVATED.
7:14:32PM RETAIL.
7:14:34PM NOT A LARGE CONCERT VENUE THAT WAS SOLD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
7:14:40PM AS A RESTAURANT.
7:14:41PM NOT A RESTAURANT THIS SIZE.
7:14:43PM OBVIOUSLY, WE LOVE THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT, BUT THESE ARE
7:14:48PM AMAZING NEIGHBORS.
7:14:49PM THESE PEOPLE -- YOU GO TO CASA AND YOU SEE NEIGHBORS.
7:14:54PM THEY CLOSE AT 10 P.M.
7:14:56PM THEY ARE NOT A NUISANCE BY NO MEANS.
7:14:58PM BUT, HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK I CAN BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
7:15:01PM ESTABLISHMENT.
7:15:02PM I THINK THIS IS A DETRIMENT TO OUR LIVES AND WE ALREADY
7:15:07PM FOUGHT FOR YEARS TO GET -- SLEEPLESS NIGHTS, COUNTLESS
7:15:16PM SLEEPLESS NIGHTS.
7:15:17PM I'M ASKING YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION.
7:15:18PM THANK YOU.
7:15:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
7:15:21PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
7:15:24PM >> GOOD EVENING.
7:15:24PM KIMBERLY McCRAY.
07:15:29PM NOT TO SOUND REPETITIVE TO WHAT MY NEIGHBORS SAID, BUT I
07:15:34PM WOULD LIKE TO SAY I LIVED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 30 YEARS.
07:15:37PM AND WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF POSITIVE CHANGES, BUT IF
07:15:40PM SADDLEBAGS IS GOING TO BE OPEN UNTIL 2 A.M., AROUND 10:30
07:15:47PM SELLING ALCOHOL IS NOT A RESTAURANT IN MY OPINION.
07:15:50PM WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF POSITIVE CHANGES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD,
07:15:55PM YOU KNOW.
07:15:56PM WE HAVE ALL SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR
07:15:59PM NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE BROADWAY, WITH MANILA, AND WE KNOW THAT
07:16:03PM THE SEQUELS ARE ALWAYS WORSE.
07:16:06PM THANK YOU.
07:16:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MEAN, A COUPLE OF GOOD SEQUELS.
07:16:10PM GOOD EVENING.
07:16:11PM >> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
07:16:13PM MY NAME IS FRANK DE LA GRANA, FOURTH GENERATION YBOR CITY
07:16:20PM NATIVE, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM OF
07:16:22PM SADDLEBAGS.
07:16:24PM I HEAR EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE IN THE
07:16:27PM NEIGHBORHOOD WORRIED ABOUT THE CHANGES THEY WILL BRING ON
07:16:30PM THAT SIDE OF 7th AVENUE.
07:16:32PM HAVING GROWN UP IN YBOR CITY, I HAVE SEEN PLACES COME AND
07:16:36PM GO.
07:16:36PM WHAT BROUGHT ME HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM BUYING
07:16:41PM SADDLEBAGS WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THROUGH THE BUILDING.
07:16:43PM TO SEE THE ROBINSON BUILDING BEFORE THE RENOVATIONS AND SEE
07:16:47PM WHAT THE TEAM DID WITH IT.
07:16:48PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY SPARED NO EXPENSE IN THE BUILD OUT.
07:16:52PM THEY COMPLIED WITH ALL THE CITY'S REQUESTS.
07:16:54PM THEY HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND KNOWING THAT THEY WILL FACE
07:16:57PM ADVERSITY WITH GETTING THIS ZONING CHANGE.
07:17:02PM THEY EXPECT IT, BUT THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING NECESSARY TO
07:17:05PM COMPLY.
07:17:05PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS IS A VERY CRUCIAL DECISION FOR
07:17:10PM THEM.
07:17:10PM I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW THEM BECAUSE OF SOME WORK I HAVE DONE
07:17:13PM IN YBOR CITY.
07:17:14PM AND AS I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW THIS TEAM, THEY HAVE VOICED TO
07:17:18PM ME THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR FRUSTRATION TRYING TO COMPLY
07:17:22PM WITH THE CITY'S REQUEST.
07:17:24PM THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE.
07:17:26PM I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATION.
07:17:28PM AND I LIVED IN YBOR CITY FOR CLOSE TO FIVE YEARS, AND I CAN
07:17:33PM TELL THAT YOU IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PLACE FOR PEACE AND
07:17:35PM QUIET, IT IS NOT THE PLACE.
07:17:37PM THE ROOSTERS CHASE ME OUT OF THERE.
07:17:39PM I CAN'T BLAME THE CLUBS.
07:17:41PM I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT IF YOU -- IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
07:17:44PM TO WALK THROUGH THIS PLACE, IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
07:17:46PM LOOK AT THEIR KITCHEN, THIS ISN'T A PLACE THAT IS JUST
07:17:49PM LOOKING TO SELL ALCOHOL AND HAVE SHEET MUSIC.
07:17:52PM THESE PEOPLE DESERVE A CHANCE.
07:17:54PM I KNOW THAT THEY WILL COMPLY WITH ANY REQUEST THAT THE CITY
07:17:58PM ASKS THEM TO DO.
07:17:59PM AND I JUST THINK IT IS FAIR GIVEN THE INVESTMENT THEY MADE
07:18:02PM IN OUR CITY AND ALL THE JOBS THEY ARE WILLING TO BRING.
07:18:05PM AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT CHANCE.
07:18:07PM THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
07:18:09PM HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
07:18:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:18:12PM YES, SIR.
07:18:13PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:18:14PM ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
07:18:17PM >> HE IS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
07:18:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
07:18:19PM ANYBODY ELSE?
07:18:20PM IF NOT, WE WILL GO TO REBUTTAL.
07:18:22PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:18:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT BUILDING THERE WAS -- MANY, MANY
07:18:28PM YEARS NOT ONE SOLID BUILDING BUT DIVIDED INTO A WESTERN PART
07:18:32PM -- THE SMALLER PART WAS FLORIDA DRUGS, WHICH WAS A DRUG
07:18:35PM STORE.
07:18:36PM THE FELLA WHO RAN IT, THE PHARMACIST WAS NAMED ROY VALDEZ.
07:18:43PM DOWN THE STREET WAS METROPOLITAN DRUGS AND THAT WAS ALSO
07:18:46PM THERE.
07:18:46PM THEY ARE BOTH GONE, AND I REMEMBER IT LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY.
07:18:49PM THANK YOU.
07:18:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
07:18:51PM >> HE CAN SPEAK, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T EAT UP ALL
07:18:55PM MY REBUTTAL TIME.
07:18:56PM >> MY NAME IS RANDOLPH GOSYNE.
07:19:01PM I AM PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT IS BRINGING SADDLEBAGS TO
07:19:05PM YBOR CITY.
07:19:06PM WE STARTED THIS PROJECT THREE YEARS AGO.
07:19:11PM AND WE -- OUR FIRST STEPS WERE TO INVITE THE NEIGHBORS TO
07:19:16PM COME AND TALK TO US.
07:19:18PM WE SENT E-MAILS OUT.
07:19:20PM AND NO ONE CAME AND SPOKE US TO ABOUT ANYTHING.
07:19:24PM AND WHEN WE HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THEY TOLD US THE
07:19:28PM REASON WHY THEY COULDN'T COME IS THEY WERE GOING THROUGH
07:19:30PM SOME CHANGES AND THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT.
07:19:32PM HOWEVER, WE WENT AHEAD WITH THIS PROJECT.
07:19:36PM AND WE -- TO BE HONEST YOU WITH GUYS, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF
07:19:41PM HAVING TO APPLY FOR A WET ZONE PERMIT.
07:19:44PM WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS UNTIL MARCH.
07:19:46PM WE STARTED THIS PROJECT THREE YEARS AGO.
07:19:48PM WE SPENT $2.5 MILLION TO BUILD OUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF
07:19:53PM THE HISTORICAL REQUIREMENTS AND HOW MUCH STUFF WE HAD TO PUT
07:19:57PM IN THE BUILDING.
07:19:58PM OUR CONCEPT IS BASICALLY, WE ARE A FULL RESTAURANT.
07:20:01PM NOT A FIVE ITEM MENU.
07:20:05PM WE HAVE 25 ITEMS ON THE MENU.
07:20:07PM WE HIRED A CHEF.
07:20:08PM THIS IS A FULL-BLOWN RESTAURANT OPERATING TUESDAY THROUGH
07:20:12PM SUNDAY.
07:20:12PM WE ONLY CLOSE ONE DAY A WEEK WHICH IS MONDAY.
07:20:15PM THEY ARE A MUSIC VENUE SITE.
07:20:19PM WE WILL ONLY HAVE MUSIC ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY BETWEEN THE
07:20:23PM HOURS OF 8 P.M. AND 2 A.M.
07:20:26PM THURSDAY, WE ARE OFFERING WHAT IS CALLED LINE DANCING
07:20:30PM LESSONS THAT WILL START AROUND 8:00 AT NIGHT.
07:20:32PM IT WILL FINISH ROUGHLY AROUND MIDNIGHT.
07:20:36PM AND THE RESTAURANT -- EVERYTHING WILL CLOSE UP ON THURSDAY
07:20:39PM BETWEEN 12 AND 1 A.M.
07:20:42PM THE ONLY TWO DAYS WE ARE GOING TO 2 A.M. IS FRIDAY AND
07:20:45PM SATURDAY.
07:20:47PM WE ARE HIRING AROUND 50 PEOPLE, BUT IT ONLY REQUIRES 25
07:20:53PM PEOPLE ON THE OPERATIONS NIGHT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU
07:20:55PM ARE RUNNING A RESTAURANT, YOU CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE WORKING
07:20:59PM 12-HOUR SHIFTS.
07:20:59PM IT WILL START MORNING SHIFT, EVENING SHIFT, AND VOLUME SHIFT.
07:21:04PM TO CLARIFY WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH
07:21:08PM ANY CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
07:21:09PM WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM.
07:21:10PM WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A CHANCE.
07:21:13PM AND SEE HOW WE ARE GOING TO OPERATE.
07:21:15PM OUR OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO -- WE PLAN TO CLEAN UP OUR AREAS
07:21:20PM WHEN WE CLOSE, THE PARKING LOTS, THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
07:21:24PM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR GUYS OUT THERE GOING AROUND AND
07:21:26PM PICKING UP ALL THE TRASH.
07:21:28PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW CUPS TO LEAVE THE CLUB OR THE BAR.
07:21:35PM THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LEAVE WITH DRINKS.
07:21:37PM IT IS A NARROW -- WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO-GO DRINKS.
07:21:40PM NOBODY SHOULD BE LEAVING OUR AREA WITH DRINKS AND STUFF.
07:21:43PM SO IT SHOULDN'T CAUSE A PROBLEM WITH LITTERING.
07:21:49PM THANK YOU, ALL.
07:21:49PM APPRECIATE IT.
07:21:50PM >> YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE NEIGHBORS MENTIONED
07:21:56PM ARE NOT PART OF THE APPLICATION THAT WE SUBMITTED.
07:21:58PM WE HAVE MET OR EXCEEDED EVERY REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY HAS.
07:22:03PM THE CALCULATION BASED ON OCCUPANCY IS ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
07:22:10PM BECAUSE THERE IS A DANCE FLOOR INSIDE, THE NUMBERS GO WAY
07:22:14PM UP, BUT YOU COULDN'T PUT THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THERE IF YOU
07:22:17PM WANTED TO.
07:22:17PM THEY BE STANDING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
07:22:20PM THIS IS ALL INSIDE.
07:22:22PM THERE IS NO OUTSIDE.
07:22:23PM I SHOWED YOU AND I PROVIDED YOU WITH THE SOUND ANALYSIS,
07:22:28PM WHICH WAS DONE WITH LIVE MUSIC.
07:22:30PM SO THERE IS NO OUTSIDE MUSIC.
07:22:35PM AT THE STREET SIDE, IT IS 47 DECIBELS ACCORDING TO THE
07:22:40PM REPORT OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
07:22:41PM THAT IS WELL WITHIN THE CITY PARAMETERS.
07:22:44PM AND THE SECURITY IS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE, SO THE PARKING AREAS
07:22:48PM ARE SECURE.
07:22:49PM AND THEY ARE WELL LIGHTED.
07:22:51PM AS FAR AS THE TRASH AND NOISE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
07:22:56PM ELSE TO TELL YOU, THEY POLICE IT.
07:22:57PM THEY HAVE PEOPLE.
07:22:58PM THEY HAVE STAFF OUTSIDE THAT ARE SECURITY, AND WE WILL MAKE
07:23:01PM SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
07:23:02PM IT IS NOT RELATED TO -- IT IS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
07:23:05PM SO THERE ARE A VARIETY OF USES THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED
07:23:08PM THERE.
07:23:08PM AND THE RESTAURANT IS AS JOHNNY JUST TOLD YOU IS GOING TO
07:23:14PM OPERATE COMPLETELY.
07:23:16PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN TO SHOW YOU THE
07:23:19PM DECIBEL LEVEL WITH -- WITH THE CONTROLS THAT ARE APPLIED TO
07:23:23PM THE -- TO THE SOUND SYSTEM INSIDE.
07:23:26PM AND ALL OF THE SOUND IS CONTROLLED BY A MASTER COMPUTER AND
07:23:30PM SET SO THAT IT CAN NOT EXCEED ANY OF THE APPROPRIATE LEVELS
07:23:34PM ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
07:23:35PM SOMEONE LIVING THREE BLOCKS AWAY AND TWO BLOCKS AWAY AND
07:23:39PM SAYING THEY ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED WHEN THE NOISE ISN'T
07:23:42PM EVEN OUTSIDE.
07:23:43PM THE CAR NOISES AND THE MOTORCYCLE NOISES AND THE TRUCK
07:23:47PM NOISES EXCEED ANYTHING THAT COULD BE GENERATED INSIDE.
07:23:50PM ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE AVOIDED ANYTHING OUTSIDE WAS TO
07:23:55PM MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTIRE AREA WAS CONTAINED.
07:23:57PM IT WAS CONTAINED FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY, AS WELL AS FOR
07:24:01PM NOISE ATTENUATION.
07:24:03PM AND ANY POSSIBLE EFFECT ON ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY.
07:24:07PM YOU KNOW, WE NOTIFIED EVERYBODY.
07:24:12PM WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
07:24:14PM THEY MENTIONED SECURITY.
07:24:16PM THEY MENTIONED NOISE.
07:24:17PM AND WE ADDRESSED IT.
07:24:19PM NOBODY CAME BACK TO US FOLLOWING THAT AND SAID, HEY, I GOT A
07:24:23PM PROBLEM BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE THE USE OR WE DON'T LIKE WHAT
07:24:27PM TYPE OF FOOD YOU ARE SERVING.
07:24:28PM THAT IS NOT THE CRITERIA FOR CONSIDERATION HERE.
07:24:31PM WE HAVE MET OR EXCEEDED EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED IN THE
07:24:35PM CITY -- IN THE CITY CODE.
07:24:36PM AND THEN WE ALSO ENGAGED SECURITY ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE THAT
07:24:41PM WE MET THAT AND ADDRESSED THAT UP FRONT, NOT SOMETHING THAT
07:24:45PM WE SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT CAME HERE AND
07:24:50PM SAID, OH, IT WAS AN AFTERTHOUGHT, WE NEED TO HAVE TIME To
07:24:54PM ENGAGE A SECURITY ANALYST.
07:24:56PM WE DID IT EARLY.
07:24:58PM AND A WELL-RESPECTED FIRM.
07:25:00PM THEIR REPORT, YOU HAVE IT THERE.
07:25:02PM WE WILL BE HAPPY TO MAKE IT PART OF THE RECORD THAT THE
07:25:06PM SOUND ANALYSIS.
07:25:07PM HAPPY TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE RECORD.
07:25:09PM AND, AGAIN, WE ARE REQUESTING THE RESTRICTION OF 51/49.
07:25:14PM SO WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT IT REMAINED A RESTAURANT AND THAT
07:25:17PM THE KITCHEN REMAINED OPEN AND FULLY OPERATIONAL ANY TIME
07:25:21PM THAT THE DOOR WAS OPEN FOR PATRONS.
07:25:23PM I DON'T -- YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS PER
07:25:32PM OCCUPANCY.
07:25:32PM WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
07:25:33PM THE CITY APPLIES THEIR OWN FORMULA TO THAT.
07:25:37PM WE MET THE CODE ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY.
07:25:39PM NO WAIVER REQUESTED FOR THAT THE ONLY WAIVER BETWEEN US AND
07:25:45PM ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT SELLING ALCOHOL.
07:25:47PM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN AVOID THAT IN YBOR CITY.
07:25:50PM WE ARE ON 7th AVENUE BETWEEN 7th AND 8th AVENUE.
07:25:57PM EVERY ESTABLISHMENT IN YBOR CITY IS BETWEEN 7th AND 8th AND
07:26:01PM THE RAILROAD TRACKS GOING TO THE SOUTH.
07:26:03PM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU AVOID THOSE ISSUES.
07:26:05PM I THINK WE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING THAT THE STAFF HAS REQUESTED
07:26:10PM US.
07:26:10PM WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE
07:26:13PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:26:13PM AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE THAT, AS WELL AS MEETING THE CODE.
07:26:19PM AGAIN, THE DISTANCE SEPARATION, I CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
07:26:23PM THE BUILDINGS ARE THERE.
07:26:24PM WE DIDN'T BUILD A NEW PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
07:26:26PM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
07:26:29PM THESE FOLKS HAVE COME IN.
07:26:31PM THEY HAVE PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS TO TRY TO
07:26:35PM MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING AND ANY ADVERSE IMPACT WAS
07:26:39PM ATTENUATED, UP FRONT, AND NOT AFTER THE FACT.
07:26:42PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
07:26:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:26:47PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
07:26:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DID.
07:26:50PM SO THE OWNERSHIP GROUP, ARE THEY THE ONES THAT RENOVATED THE
07:26:54PM EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AS WELL?
07:26:57PM >> THAT WAS PART OF THEM AND, ALSO, THE PROPERTY OWNER,
07:27:00PM DARRYL SHAW.
07:27:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
07:27:02PM AND QUESTION.
07:27:03PM BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERN IS -- NEIGHBORHOOD BEING
07:27:08PM BIT BY SOME OF THE PREVIOUS ESTABLISHMENTS.
07:27:11PM WILL THERE BE AN ISSUE OF HAVING A SITE PLAN RESTRICTION OF
07:27:16PM 1 A.M. INSTEAD OF 2 P.M. AND LESS LIKE A CLUB?
07:27:21PM >> WHERE DID YOU GO, JOHNNY?
07:27:29PM >> ONE OF THE REASONS WE CHOSE 2 A.M. BECAUSE I THINK IN
07:27:34PM YBOR, THE BARS STAY OPEN UNTIL 3:00.
07:27:37PM WE CHOSE AN HOUR EARLIER.
07:27:39PM AND ALSO, SOME OF THE MUSIC BANDS THAT WE CAN GET AND BRING,
07:27:45PM SOME OF THE UP AND COMING, SOME OF THE NATIONAL GUYS, THEY
07:27:49PM LIKE TO HAVE A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO PLAY AND STUFF.
07:27:52PM SO WE CHOSE 2 A.M.
07:27:58PM POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN CLOSE EARLIER, WE JUST CAN'T PREDICT
07:28:02PM HOW IT IS GOING TO GO.
07:28:04PM >> ASKING FOR A COMMITMENT OF 1 A.M.
07:28:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL FLY UP HERE, BUT
07:28:09PM I THINK THE SENSITIVITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TURNING
07:28:14PM INTO MORE OF A CLUB TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE OPPOSED TO A VENUE
07:28:18PM TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE.
07:28:19PM WHEN YOU HAVE -- BY NATURE WHEN YOU HAVE A 1 A.M., YOU ARE
07:28:22PM LESS LIKELY TO GET THE CLUB TYPE OF PEOPLE LOOKING TO PARTY
07:28:27PM ALL NIGHT AND THEY START CLEARING OUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER
07:28:30PM AND GOING.
07:28:31PM AS FAR AS YOU ARE ENCROACHING.
07:28:33PM THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT THAT SUBJECT UP.
07:28:35PM >> I MEAN, IF IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, WE WILL
07:28:40PM CONSIDER IT, YES.
07:28:42PM >> HE ASKING FOR A COMMITMENT.
07:28:43PM YOU EITHER HAVE TO SAY YES OR NO.
07:28:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A SITE PLAN COMMITMENT.
07:28:52PM >> YOU COULD COME BACK AND REVISIT THAT IN THE FUTURE IF YOU
07:28:56PM PROVED YOURSELF AT 1 A.M.
07:29:03PM >> OKAY, I MEAN, YEAH, WE CAN COMMIT TO CLOSING AT 1 A.M. IF
07:29:08PM IT APPEASES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:29:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I BELIEVE -- AGAIN, THAT LENDS ITSELF TO A
07:29:14PM DIFFERENT TYPE OF FEELING AND VIBE OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY WHO
07:29:18PM STAYS OPEN TO 2 OR EVEN 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
07:29:20PM BY RIGHT, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE COMMITMENT FOR 2 A.M., BUT
07:29:25PM BEFORE THEN 3.
07:29:26PM AND BECAUSE WHAT YOU REQUESTED --
07:29:29PM >> ALL THE BARS IN YBOR CLOSES AT 3:00.
07:29:32PM >> THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID THAT ENCROACHMENT AND
07:29:35PM THAT TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE.
07:29:36PM WE ARE TRYING TO PULL THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
07:29:38PM I APPRECIATE THAT OF YOUR INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.
07:29:42PM AND, OF COURSE, THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, THE INVESTMENT OF
07:29:46PM THIS BUILDING.
07:29:46PM I THINK WE HAD PRECEDENT UP HERE.
07:29:48PM BECAUSE WE -- ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 7th ON THE WEST SIDE OF
07:29:53PM 7th, WE APPROVED ALCOHOL SALES AND AN OUTSIDE PATIO VENUE
07:30:00PM RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.
07:30:02PM WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST IN THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
07:30:05PM I VOTED AGAINST THAT.
07:30:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH THAT COMMITMENT OF 1 A.M., I CAN
07:30:15PM SUPPORT THAT.
07:30:15PM THE OTHER ONE WE GOT THEM TO SHUT AT 10 OR
07:30:19PM 11.
07:30:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WAS 1.
07:30:22PM 1 A.M.
07:30:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE TALKING OF A DIFFERENT ONE.
07:30:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:30:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR ME KNOWING WHAT IS SURROUNDING IT.
07:30:37PM WHAT SURROUND SOMETHING ARE RESTAURANTS.
07:30:41PM AND PASSING 22nd STREET IS KIND OF THE DIVIDING LINE FOR ME
07:30:50PM AND NOTHING ELSE CLOSES AFTER 10.
07:30:52PM BEST I WOULD BE WILLING TO GO IS 11:00.
07:30:55PM I AM NOT OKAY WITH 1 A.M.
07:30:57PM THIS IS NOT THE CLUB PART OF YBOR, SO I CAN'T SUPPORT
07:31:01PM ANYTHING THAT -- THAT WOULD BE GREATER THAN 11 P.M.
07:31:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
07:31:07PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
07:31:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT SAYING I LIKE IT OR DISLIKE IT,
07:31:12PM BUT I AM THINKING HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU PUT $2.5 MILLION
07:31:17PM INTO SOMETHING WHEN YOU DIDN'T GET AN APPLICATION FOR A
07:31:19PM RESTAURANT AND BAR BUT BEFORE YOU SPENT THE MONEY.
07:31:21PM >> LIKE I SAID, WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE WEREN'T AWARE
07:31:25PM OF THE WHOLE PROCESS WITH THE WET ZONING.
07:31:28PM WE WENT TO THE ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO OFFICE.
07:31:31PM AND WE ASKED THEM WHAT IS THE CRITERIA BEFORE WE DID
07:31:36PM ANYTHING.
07:31:37PM AND THEY TOLD -- NOBODY -- NOBODY MENTIONED US TO ABOUT WET
07:31:41PM ZONING UNTIL MARCH, WE GOT AN E-MAIL FROM A FELLOW CLUB
07:31:50PM OWNER DOWN THE STREET.
07:31:50PM HE SENT US AN E-MAIL AND TOLD US, HEY, DID YOU GET A WET
07:31:55PM ZONING.
07:31:55PM THAT IS WHEN WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
07:31:57PM WE WEREN'T AWARE OF IT, TO BE HONEST.
07:32:00PM IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE, BUT WE -- I MEAN, OUR REALTORS, OUR
07:32:08PM LANDLORD, NOBODY MENTIONED TO US ANYTHING ABOUT US.
07:32:13PM IF THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF CRITERIA, ARCHITECTURE COULD HAVE
07:32:21PM BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
07:32:23PM NOBODY BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION UNTIL MARCH, AND THAT IS
07:32:28PM WHEN WE APPLIED.
07:32:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:32:30PM ANYBODY ELSE?
07:32:31PM IF NOT, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE.
07:32:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE --
07:32:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REAL FAST.
07:32:38PM WE HAD DISCUSSIONS OF NOT ALLOWING CONCENTRATIONS OF
07:32:42PM ALCOHOL.
07:32:42PM I AM GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE STRICT ABOUT THE 250 RULE
07:32:47PM AND NOT APPROVE AS MANY OF THEM, AT LEAST PAST 11:00.
07:32:57PM >> COUNCILMAN, THE REASON WE RESTRICTED TO -- COUNCILMAN,
07:33:01PM THE REASON FOR THE 51/49 RESTRICTION SO IT WOULDN'T BE PER
07:33:06PM SIDE AS AN EXTENSION OF A BAR AND CLUB.
07:33:10PM THAT WILL BE STRICTLY ENFORCED.
07:33:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW IS IT ENFORCED?
07:33:15PM >> GOING ON THE SITE PLAN.
07:33:18PM >> 51% FOOD SALES AND 49% ALCOHOL SALES.
07:33:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU KNEW THAT BEFORE?
07:33:32PM >> ALCOHOL LICENSE, WHEN YOU READ THE CRITERIA FOR THE TYPE
07:33:35PM OF LICENSE, IT TELLS YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO SELL 51% FOOD AND
07:33:41PM 49% ALCOHOL.
07:33:42PM >> FROM THE BEGINNING HE SAID HE NEVER ANTICIPATED IT BEING
07:33:47PM A STRAIGHT 4-COP.
07:33:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND
07:33:53PM HOW SOMEBODY PUTS $2.5 MILLION IN A BUILDING AND CAN'T FIND
07:33:57PM OUT WHAT TO DO.
07:33:58PM >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, WHEN THEY CALLED ME, I ADVISED THEM --
07:34:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR.
07:34:04PM IF WE VOTE ON THIS, THE SITE PLAN IS GOING TO REFLECT THE
07:34:10PM 51/49 AND THE 1 A.M. CLOSING TIME.
07:34:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS DOCK, IS THAT CORRECT?
07:34:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT NEED CLARIFICATION
07:34:19PM ON THE RECORD, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:34:22PM NUMBER ONE, THE NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED.
07:34:24PM IN ADDITION TO THE SITE PLAN REVISIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT,
07:34:27PM THE ADDITIONAL CHANGES ARE TO ADD A NOTE THAT THE
07:34:30PM ESTABLISHMENT WILL PROVIDE ANNUAL REPORTING.
07:34:32PM WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RESTAURANT DESIGNATION.
07:34:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I INQUIRE ABOUT THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:34:41PM I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY REMOVED THE REPORTING
07:34:44PM REQUIREMENT.
07:34:44PM IS THERE ANY OTHER SPECIAL USE PERMITS THAT HAVE REPORTING
07:34:50PM REQUIREMENTS STILL ON THEIR SITE PLAN?
07:34:52PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THAT REPORTING REQUIREMENT HAS NOT BEEN
07:34:55PM REMOVED.
07:34:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THEY STILL HAVE TO DO ANNUAL REPORT
07:34:58PM SOMETHING IN.
07:34:59PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
07:35:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
07:35:03PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: OUR DESIGNATION WITH ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES
07:35:06PM AND OLD WET ZONING IS A CONDITION OF THEIR APPROVAL.
07:35:08PM THEY MUST REPORT ANNUALLY.
07:35:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
07:35:14PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THAT NOTE WILL NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE SITE
07:35:17PM PLAN.
07:35:17PM DEVELOPER IS PROVIDED TO MAINTAIN A SECURITY PLAN.
07:35:22PM THAT LANGUAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE.
07:35:25PM I WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
07:35:28PM READING SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED AT FIRST READING.
07:35:31PM ANOTHER NOTE TO BE ADDED TO THE PLAN AND THE CONDITION.
07:35:34PM THE OTHER IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO STATE WHAT ARE THE HOURS
07:35:40PM OF OPERATION.
07:35:40PM BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD DISCUSSION OF DIFFERENT HOURS AND
07:35:43PM CLOSING TIMES.
07:35:44PM I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO STATE NOW ON THE RECORD WHAT THEIR
07:35:47PM HOURS ARE.
07:35:47PM AND THOSE HOURS CAN ONLY BE AMENDED BY NEW APPLICATION AND
07:35:53PM GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN.
07:35:54PM YOU CAN NOT AMEND THE HOURS ADMINISTRATIVELY, JUST SO THE
07:35:59PM APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS.
07:36:00PM >> WE ARE REQUESTING THE 1 A.M. CLOSING TIME FOR ALL OF THE
07:36:05PM DAYS OF THEIR OPERATION.
07:36:06PM AND ONE THING --
07:36:07PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WHAT DAYS ARE THOSE, PLEASE.
07:36:09PM >> ONLY TWO DAYS THAT WE ARE GOING TO STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.
07:36:13PM IS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
07:36:16PM THURSDAY WE PROBABLY CLOSE AROUND MIDNIGHT BECAUSE IT IS
07:36:21PM LINE DANCING LESSONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
07:36:23PM THE RESTAURANT IS OPERATING FROM 11 A.M. UNTIL 11 P.M. AND
07:36:32PM THE NIGHT THAT WE STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M., THE RESTAURANT
07:36:35PM WILL STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.
07:36:38PM >> SO THE RESTAURANT -- THE RESTAURANT AND THE BUILDING WILL
07:36:43PM BE OPEN ON --
07:36:47PM >> TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AT 11 A.M. AND CLOSE AT 11
07:36:50PM P.M. THE OTHER TWO NIGHTS THAT WE STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.,
07:36:54PM THE RESTAURANT WILL STAY OPEN UNTIL 1 A.M.
07:36:59PM >> THAT WILL BE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
07:37:00PM >> FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
07:37:01PM BASICALLY THE RESTAURANT WILL CLOSE AT 11 P.M. UNLESS WE ARE
07:37:06PM STAYING OPEN ON THE MUSIC SIDE UNTIL 1 A.M.
07:37:09PM IT WILL ALSO STAY OPEN TO THAT TIME.
07:37:12PM >> LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR.
07:37:14PM TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY ARE OPEN UNTIL -- THEY CLOSE AT 11:00.
07:37:20PM THE KITCHEN WILL BE OPEN UNTIL 11:00.
07:37:23PM WEDNESDAY.
07:37:25PM >> AT 11.
07:37:27PM >> TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, 11.
07:37:30PM AND THURSDAY.
07:37:31PM >> THURSDAY -- LET'S SAY THURSDAY 1 A.M. AS WELL, BECAUSE
07:37:34PM JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
07:37:36PM >> SO THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY WE ARE REQUESTING 1 A.M.
07:37:40PM >> SUNDAY 11 A.M. TO 4 P.M. IT IS A BRUNCH.
07:37:44PM WE ARE JUST DOING BRUNCH ON SUNDAYS.
07:37:47PM WE CREATED, LIKE, A FAMILY-STYLE BRUNCH.
07:37:53PM FUN WITH GAMES AND STUFF.
07:37:54PM >> ONE OTHER THING WE NEED TO ADD IS THIS ONLY APPLIES TO
07:37:59PM THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.
07:38:01PM AND NOT THE SECOND FLOOR.
07:38:02PM IT IS A TWO-STORY BUILDING.
07:38:05PM SO WILL BE RESTRICTED TO THE FIRST FLOOR ONLY.
07:38:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MONDAYS ARE CLOSED.
07:38:09PM >> MONDAY IS CLOSED, YES.
07:38:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF MISS
07:38:14PM DOCK?
07:38:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
07:38:21PM WITH REGARDS TO MONDAY, WHAT WILL BE ON THE SITE PLAN?
07:38:25PM >> CLOSED MONDAY.
07:38:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
07:38:27PM TO NOT, ASK THE CLERK --
07:38:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: MISS DOCK, REPEAT THAT BACK.
07:38:33PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.
07:38:34PM THE CLOSING TIME IS 11 P.M. ON THURSDAY THE CLOSING TIME IS
07:38:39PM 1 A.M.
07:38:40PM ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, THE CLOSING TIME IS 1 A.M.
07:38:46PM >> SUNDAY IS 4 P.M.
07:38:47PM >> SUNDAY IS 4 P.M.
07:38:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: SUNDAY, YOU WANT TO CLOSE AT 4 P.M.
07:38:52PM YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT OPERATE BEYOND 4 P.M. ON SUNDAY.
07:38:56PM >> THAT IS BRUNCH ON SUNDAYS.
07:39:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YOU ALSO CANNOT CHANGE IT ADMINISTRATIVELY.
07:39:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I GIVE A LITTLE ASSISTANCE.
07:39:06PM >> OKAY, LET'S DO 11 P.M.
07:39:13PM >> JUST TO BE CONSISTENT.
07:39:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
07:39:15PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
07:39:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
07:39:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:39:19PM A SECOND TO CLOSE?
07:39:21PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:39:22PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:39:24PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS.
07:39:27PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS.
07:39:30PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ HAD THIS.
07:39:33PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:39:35PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
07:39:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL READ IT.
07:39:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:39:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE DO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST FOR
07:39:48PM THE SAKE OF THE RECORD, THERE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATIONS THAT
07:39:53PM HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO CITY COUNCIL.
07:39:57PM EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.
07:39:59PM NO VERBAL COMMUNICATION WITH ANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
07:40:03PM I SEE NOBODY RESPONDING AFFIRMATIVELY.
07:40:05PM COULD THERE BE A RECEIVE AND FILE FOR THE WRITTEN DOCUMENTS.
07:40:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:40:09PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:40:11PM OPPOSED?
07:40:13PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:40:13PM GO AHEAD.
07:40:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FILE NUMBER AB 24-15, LARGE VENUE
07:40:25PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE MAKING LAWFUL OF THE SALE OF
07:40:30PM BEVERAGES, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN, LOT, PLOT
07:40:33PM OR TRACT OF LAND EAST 7th AVENUE PROVIDING THAT ALL
07:40:38PM ORDINANCE AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED.
07:40:41PM PROVIDED AN EFFECTIVE DATE WITH SITE PLAN CHANGES BETWEEN
07:40:44PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:40:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:40:47PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
07:40:49PM IS THERE A SECOND?
07:40:52PM THE MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
07:40:55PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:40:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW THAT -- I KNOW THAT -- BUT I WOULD
07:41:02PM MAKE A MOTION TO STAY OPEN UNTIL 11:00 EACH NIGHT.
07:41:05PM I KNOW THAT IS NOT WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS, BUT IF IT GETS
07:41:09PM REJECTED COMPLETELY, HE IS STUCK WITH THIS INVESTMENT
07:41:12PM WITHOUT NO LICENSE.
07:41:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, AND I WILL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION
07:41:17PM TO THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS CASE AND ALL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
07:41:23PM SPECIAL USES, 27-129, THE GENERAL STANDARDS.
07:41:27PM THAT IS YOUR CRITERIA, ONE THROUGH FIVE THAT YOU ARE GOING
07:41:31PM TO HAVE TO DECIDE OF COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
07:41:35PM ALSO WITH REGARD TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CARSON STATED, IF YOU
07:41:42PM LOOK AT -- IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 4, SUBSECTIONS B, NUMBER 7,
07:41:48PM CONTROL OF POTENTIALLY ADVERSE EFFECTS GENERALLY AND IN
07:41:52PM ADDITION TO CONSIDERATION OF DETAILED ELEMENTS INDICATED
07:41:55PM ABOVE IS APPROPRIATE TO THE APPROPRIATE CLASS OR KIND OF
07:41:59PM SPECIAL USE AND TECH CASE, DUE CONSIDERATION SHALL BE GIVEN
07:42:02PM TO POTENTIALLY ADVERSE EFFECTS GENERALLY ON ADJOINING AND
07:42:07PM NEARBY PROPERTY, THE AREA, THE CITY OR THE USE OR OCCUPANCY
07:42:12PM WITH THE LOCATION, DESIGN, CHARACTER, SCALE OR MANNER OF
07:42:15PM OPERATION.
07:42:15PM WHERE SUCH POTENTIALLY SUCH ADVERSE EFFECTS WILL BE FOUND,
07:42:20PM CONSIDERATION FOR SPECIAL REMEDIAL MEASURES APPROPRIATE IN
07:42:23PM THE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CASE INCLUDING
07:42:26PM SCREENING, BUFFERING, LANDSCAPING, CONTROL OF MANNER OR
07:42:31PM HOURS OF OPERATION, ALTERCATION OF DESIGN OF CONSTRUCTION OF
07:42:34PM BUILDINGS RELOCATION, ETC., ETC.
07:42:37PM IF THAT IS SOMETHING -- IF YOU WISH TO REOPEN THE HEARING,
07:42:41PM MAKE INQUIRY AND SEE WHAT THE -- WHAT THE APPLICANT WISHES
07:42:44PM TO DO.
07:42:44PM JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL -- AND FORGIVE ME THAT I DIDN'T DO
07:42:49PM THIS AT THE BEGINNING. BUT WE DID MENTION THIS THE LAST
07:42:52PM REGULAR MEETING.
07:42:53PM PER COUNCIL RULES, NO REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE SHALL BE
07:42:58PM GRANTED AT A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING AFTER THE PETITIONER
07:43:03PM COMPLETED THEIR PRESENTATION UNLESS DETERMINED BY CITY
07:43:06PM COUNCIL IT IS NECESSARY FOR PURPOSES OF PROCEDURAL.
07:43:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SECOND THE MOTION TO REOPEN.
07:43:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN.
07:43:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
07:43:19PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:43:20PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:43:22PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:43:24PM OPPOSED?
07:43:25PM THE HEARING IS REOPENED.
07:43:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW IT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I WOULD
07:43:32PM SUPPORT A MOTION UNTIL 11 P.M., WHICH IS BETTER THAN NOTHING.
07:43:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANY THOUGHT ON THAT, COUNCILMAN
07:43:44PM VIERA.
07:43:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, I AM GLAD COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID THAT.
07:43:47PM I WAS THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES.
07:43:50PM AND MAYBE IF YOU GUYS NEED -- IF YOU DON'T THINK PUBLICLY,
07:43:54PM SO TO SPEAK.
07:43:55PM BUT A DECISION TO MAYBE STEP OUTSIDE FOR TEN MINUTES AND WE
07:43:59PM CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
07:44:00PM JUST A THOUGHT.
07:44:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:44:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO SAY THE NATURE OF THIS TYPE OF A
07:44:07PM VENUE.
07:44:08PM THEY HAVE A RESTAURANT AND A CONCERT VENUE.
07:44:10PM IF THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE PERFORMANCES, I DON'T KNOW OF
07:44:13PM ANYBODY THAT CAN CLOSE DOWN A PERFORMANCE BY 11 P.M. YOU
07:44:16PM CAN'T GO DOWN TO THE STRAZ AND CLOSE DOWN --
07:44:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FRANKIE VALLI.
07:44:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, FRANKIE VALLI.
07:44:25PM PROHIBITIVELY EARLY FOR A CONCERT VENUE.
07:44:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROBLEM JUST SO THE APPLICANT KNOWS THIS
07:44:32PM GOES WITH THE LAND.
07:44:33PM AND SO YOU MAY BE A GREAT OPERATOR, THE PROBLEM IS THAT
07:44:37PM SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT COME IN AND DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT SO
07:44:40PM GREAT.
07:44:41PM AND WE HAVE TO THINK AHEAD OF THE ENTITLEMENT.
07:44:45PM >> I THINK THE RESTRICTION FOR THE 51/49 WEIGHS HEAVY ON ANY
07:44:50PM ESTABLISHMENT NOT BECOMING SOMETHING THAT IS OBNOXIOUS.
07:44:55PM YOU KNOW IT IS A SELF-IMPOSED REQUEST FOR THAT RESTRICTION.
07:44:59PM SO PERHAPS CONSIDER THAT FOR THOSE OTHER NIGHTS,
07:45:05PM PARTICULARLY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT, IS THERE ANY
07:45:10PM CONSIDERATION FOR A LITTLE BIT LATER TIME ON THOSE MEETS?
07:45:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:45:16PM >> 11:30.
07:45:20PM >> OUR BUSINESS HINGES ON THE -- THE RENT IN YBOR IS SUPER
07:45:28PM HIGH.
07:45:28PM I MEAN, IT'S 50K A MONTH.
07:45:32PM AND OVERHEAD CLOSING AT 11 P.M. IS GOING TO BE -- WE ARE
07:45:37PM GOING TO JUST BE THERE BREAKING EVEN EVERY MONTH.
07:45:40PM AND IT IS GOING TO BE HARD TO HAVE -- NOT BE ABLE TO HIRE
07:45:46PM THE BANDS TO PLAY ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND MAKE A LITTLE
07:45:51PM EXTRA MONEY.
07:45:52PM BUT JUST TO MEET OUR BUSINESS GOALS, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO
07:45:56PM CLOSE AT 11 P.M. EVERY NIGHT.
07:46:01PM >> WHEN IS THE EARLIEST YOU CAN SURVIVE AT?
07:46:06PM >> 1 A.M. IS LIKE -- I MEAN, WE -- WE COMPROMISED TWO HOURS
07:46:11PM OFF THE NORMAL TIME OF EVERY OTHER ESTABLISHMENT IN YBOR.
07:46:15PM I KNOW EVERYBODY IS SAYING LIKE WE ARE ON THE DIFFERENT SIDE
07:46:18PM OF YBOR, BUT FLEX IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM US.
07:46:21PM RIGHT NEXT TO COLUMBIA IS A BAR NAMED FLEX.
07:46:24PM AND THEY STAY OPEN UNTIL 3:00 IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW.
07:46:28PM SO I -- I AM NOT TRYING TO BRING EVERYTHING DRASTICALLY
07:46:36PM DIFFERENT TO THAT AREA.
07:46:37PM >> THE REASON WE WENT TO THE REAL LENGTHS OF HIRING A SOUND
07:46:41PM ANALYST AND A SECURITY FIRM SO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO
07:46:46PM ADVERSE IMPACTS.
07:46:47PM WE GREATLY APPRECIATE WHATEVER CONSIDERATION YOU CAN GIVE US
07:46:51PM FOR A LITTLE BIT LATER ON THE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
07:46:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:46:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
07:46:59PM COMMUNITY IS TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
07:47:02PM NOISE.
07:47:02PM THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY TALKING OF NOISE FROM THE
07:47:05PM ESTABLISHMENT.
07:47:06PM THEY ARE TALKING OF NOISE WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE THE
07:47:09PM ESTABLISHMENT.
07:47:09PM THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE FROM PARKING LOT AND FROM
07:47:14PM WALKING TO THE CARS.
07:47:15PM THAT IS PART OF THE ISSUE.
07:47:18PM THIS PART OF YBOR.
07:47:20PM THIS PART OF 7th AVENUE DOES NOT HAVE CLUBS.
07:47:23PM WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE REST OF YBOR.
07:47:27PM IF YOU HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING
07:47:30PM TO PULL BACK ON CLUBS ON 7th AVENUE IN YBOR.
07:47:33PM SO I AM NOT SURE WHERE YOU COME HERE AND THINK THAT WE ARE
07:47:40PM GOING TO BE OKAY WITH THE 1 A.M. CLOSING WHEN EVEN IN THE
07:47:45PM REST OF YBOR WE ARE STARTING TO PULL BACK ON THAT.
07:47:47PM I AM SORRY FOR THE INVESTMENT, BUT THAT'S NOT -- THAT IS NOT
07:47:52PM MY ISSUE.
07:47:53PM MY ISSUE HERE IS EVERYTHING ELSE SURROUNDING IT CLOSES AT 10
07:47:59PM P.M.
07:47:59PM AND I THINK 11:00 IS GENEROUS.
07:48:02PM AND THAT IS WHAT I AM WILLING TO DO.
07:48:04PM I AM NOT WILLING TO GO ANY FURTHER, AND THAT IS JUST ME.
07:48:08PM OTHERS MAY FEEL DIFFERENTLY.
07:48:10PM AND I'M TRYING TO BE IN THE -- IN THE MINORITY, BUT I AM NOT
07:48:14PM -- I AM NOT GOING TO ENTERTAIN ANYTHING MORE THAN 11 P.M.
07:48:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
07:48:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID JUST AS
07:48:26PM SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO OBJECT OR RAISE OR EXPRESS CONCERN
07:48:30PM ABOUT IS THAT WHAT SHE DID WAS IN THE RECORD
07:48:33PM EXPLAINED THE PURPOSE OF THE CONDITION THAT YOU ARE WILLING
07:48:39PM TO PLACE.
07:48:39PM AND THE BASIS AND COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE BASED ON
07:48:46PM EVIDENCE YOU HEARD IN THE RECORD.
07:48:47PM WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU IS FINE.
07:48:49PM THAT IS WELL AND GOOD, BUT TO CONTINUE TO -- I DON'T WANT TO
07:48:53PM SAY HORSE -- TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.
07:48:57PM I DON'T WANT THIS THE RAISE OF THE EXACTION OF SOMETHING
07:49:02PM THAT I WAS COERCED INTO IT.
07:49:03PM THERE IS EITHER AN AGREEMENT AND CONSENT OR NOT.
07:49:07PM >> COUNCIL, COULD YOU JUST GIVE US TEN MINUTES TO GO OUTSIDE
07:49:11PM AND CONFER, PLEASE.
07:49:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS FOR FIVE
07:49:17PM MINUTES, COME BACK, AND THEN -- WHEN YOU ARE READY.
07:49:21PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:04:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE --
08:04:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MINUTE.
08:04:38PM >>CLERK: CARLSON.
08:04:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
08:04:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
08:04:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
08:04:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HERE.
08:04:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
08:04:46PM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
08:04:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAVE YOU COME TO AN AGREEMENT OR
08:04:52PM CONCLUSION?
08:04:54PM >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO OPEN MONDAY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE
08:04:58PM COSTS.
08:04:59PM SO MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 11 A.M. TO 11 P.M., WE WANT TO
08:05:07PM KNOW IF WE CAN DO FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AT MIDNIGHT AND SUNDAY
08:05:12PM 11 P.M. AND WE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
08:05:15PM THEY ARE FOLLOWING SUPPORT US IF WE CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT ON
08:05:21PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND SHE CAN COME UP HERE AND SAY
08:05:24PM SOMETHING.
08:05:24PM >> CAN THEY COME UP TO SPEAK AT LEAST CONFIRM THAT WE HAD
08:05:32PM THAT DISCUSSION.
08:05:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE ASK THEM TO SPEAK?
08:05:36PM >> THE HEARING IS STILL OPEN.
08:05:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A FEW SECONDS EACH.
08:05:39PM YOU ARE SPEAKING IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY.
08:05:41PM >> WE ARE HERE SPEAKING FOR OUR BEHALF.
08:05:45PM JOSEN CAYON AND NOT REPRESENTING THE ASSOCIATION.
08:05:49PM I AM THE TREASURER AND THIS IS THE SECRETARY, BUT WE ARE NOT
08:05:52PM REPRESENTING THE SOCIAL DISTANCING.
08:05:53PM THIS IS -- THAT IS WHY WE NEVER MENTIONED IT.
08:05:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
08:05:59PM >> AS AN INDIVIDUAL, THE RESTAURANT IS ALL WE WANT.
08:06:03PM WE -- I -- MIDNIGHT I PROBABLY WOULD AGREE IF, YOU KNOW.
08:06:08PM I ALSO FEEL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND EVERYTHING, SO -- ON
08:06:12PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
08:06:13PM BUT THIS IS YOUR DECISION, NOT OURS.
08:06:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT YOU LIVE THERE.
08:06:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO --
08:06:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: ASK ANOTHER LADY TO SPEAK.
08:06:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMEBODY ELSE.
08:06:26PM >> DENISE SANSOR.
08:06:29PM WHILE I -- AS I SAID BEFORE, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE
08:06:33PM BUSINESS AND JUST THE HOURS.
08:06:35PM WE WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
08:06:36PM SO I AM FOLLOWING WORK WITH THEM.
08:06:38PM 11:00 DURING THE WEEK IS FINE.
08:06:40PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS UNTIL MIDNIGHT.
08:06:43PM I AM OKAY WITH, BUT I WILL GIVE IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
08:06:46PM SO YOU CAN DECIDE.
08:06:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
08:06:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL.
08:06:53PM THIS FIRST READING AND COME BACK WITH SECOND READING AND
08:06:56PM PUBLIC HEARING AT WHICH TIME YOU CAN TAKE ADDITIONAL
08:07:00PM TESTIMONY IF NECESSARY.
08:07:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA
08:07:04PM AND SECONDED FROM CLENDENIN.
08:07:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, READ IT WITH THE
08:07:11PM NEW HOURS ON THE SITE PLAN.
08:07:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AB-24-15.
08:07:16PM CORRECT?
08:07:18PM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION FOR A SPECIAL
08:07:22PM USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES LARGE VENUE
08:07:25PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE ONLY MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
08:07:28PM BEVERAGES OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT
08:07:32PM OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED 2234 EAST 7th AVENUE TAMPA FLORIDA
08:07:37PM AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 PROVIDING ALL
08:07:41PM ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT ARE REPEALED
08:07:45PM REGARDING A EFFECTIVE DATE WITH THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS
08:07:49PM AND HOURS OF OPERATION AS THE APPLICANT HAS JUST STATED.
08:07:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
08:07:54PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:07:55PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:07:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:07:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:08:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:08:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
08:08:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
08:08:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
08:08:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:08:08PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
08:08:11PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD DECEMBER 19, 2024
08:08:16PM AT 10 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR,
08:08:21PM TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602.
08:08:24PM >> COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND WE
08:08:27PM APPRECIATE THE TIME AND ALLOWING US TO WORK THIS OUT.
08:08:30PM THANK YOU.
08:08:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEVEN MORE CASES.
08:08:33PM ITEM NUMBER 11.
08:08:34PM >>LEO DeBARDELEBEN: GOOD EVENING, LEO DeBARDELEBEN, LAND
08:08:44PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:08:44PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, AB2-24-30, THE PROPERTY AT 2506 SOUTH
08:08:52PM MacDILL.
08:08:53PM REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALE, SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE
08:08:57PM AND LIQUOR.
08:08:57PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE.
08:08:58PM PACKAGE SALES, CONSUMPTION ASSUMPTION OFF PREMISE.
08:09:03PM REQUESTING AB SALES IN 7061 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA AND
08:09:10PM 467 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA FOR A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF
08:09:15PM 7528 SQUARE FEET.
08:09:17PM AB HOURS -- THE AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER
08:09:23PM 14.
08:09:23PM TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING IS 06 SPACES AND 28 SPACES REQUIRED
08:09:29PM FOR THE SITE.
08:09:30PM THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A WAIVER TO THAT STANDARD.
08:09:33PM I HAVE THE AERIAL ZONING MAP ON THE SCREEN HERE.
08:09:36PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
08:09:41PM THIS IS ON SOUTH MacDILL BETWEEN WEST SAN JOSE STREET TO THE
08:09:51PM NORTH AND WEST PALMYRA AVENUE TO THE SOUTH THIS IS SOUTH
08:10:05PM MacDILL.
08:10:06PM OTHER COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONED SITES HERE.
08:10:09PM THE APPLICANT HAS AN AB SALES APPROVAL FOR SMALL VENUE WITH
08:10:14PM THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND
08:10:17PM PACKAGE SALES.
08:10:17PM THE REQUEST WILL ALLOW THE ABILITY TO SELL LIQUOR FOR THE
08:10:21PM RESTAURANT USE.
08:10:22PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
08:10:30PM YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY HERE.
08:10:32PM THIS IS THE BUILDING HERE.
08:10:33PM IT HAS OTHER COMMERCIAL USES CURRENTLY AND YOU CAN SEE THE
08:10:40PM PROPOSED AND CURRENT AB SALES AREA AND THE PARKING TO THE
08:10:44PM WEST.
08:10:46PM I HAVE PICTURES ALSO TO SHOW.
08:10:56PM THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:10:59PM SOUTH MacDILL.
08:11:03PM THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH OF THE
08:11:06PM BUILDING.
08:11:06PM HERE IS A PHOTO LOOKING NORTH ON SOUTH MacDILL.
08:11:12PM THIS IS A LOOKING SOUTH ON MacDILL.
08:11:18PM HERE IS A PICTURE FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
08:11:22PM THERE ARE OTHER COMMERCIAL USES AND ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE --
08:11:27PM OF THE COMMERCIAL USES ACROSS THE STREET.
08:11:29PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
08:11:36PM APPLICATION, AND FOUND THE APPLICATION INCONSISTENT WITH THE
08:11:41PM CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
08:11:43PM THIS -- THERE IS ONE WAIVER THAT WAS REQUESTED RELATING TO
08:11:46PM THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
08:11:50PM MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
08:11:56PM SECOND READING AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
08:11:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
08:12:00PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
08:12:02PM APPLICANT, COME ON UP.
08:12:04PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
08:12:20PM COLIN RICE, WITH THE FIRM OF LUNDY.
08:12:27PM MR. BINGHAM IS BEHIND ME.
08:12:29PM THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING HERE SINCE 2010.
08:12:33PM I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF TONIGHT.
08:12:34PM I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY.
08:12:37PM BUT IN SHORT, WE ARE SEEKING TO ADD LIQUOR SALES TO AN
08:12:44PM ESTABLISHED RESTAURANT SPACE.
08:12:45PM AGAIN ESTABLISHED IN 2010.
08:12:47PM LAST MODIFIED IN 2012.
08:12:49PM IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NO PACKAGE LIQUOR -- NO
08:12:53PM PACKAGED LIQUOR IS PROPOSED.
08:12:56PM CURRENTLY PACKAGED WINE HAPPENING THAT IS PROPOSED TO
08:12:59PM CONTINUE BUT IN A SLIGHTLY MODIFIED WAY WHICH I WILL SHOW
08:13:03PM YOU SHORTLY.
08:13:03PM SO TO ORIENT YOU, WE ARE IN SOUTH TAMPA AS LEO HAD DEPICTED.
08:13:10PM ON SOUTH MacDILL NORTH OF BAY TO BAY.
08:13:15PM SO THIS IS DUE NORTH HERE.
08:13:20PM AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:13:22PM YOU SEE THE ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CENTER, THE PARKING AREA,
08:13:26PM AND MacDILL HERE.
08:13:27PM SO ZOOMING IN ON THE SITE PLAN, I HAVE ADDED RED LABELS TO
08:13:37PM SHOW WHAT WE ARE WITH.
08:13:39PM A BIT OF A UNIQUE SITE.
08:13:40PM EVERYTHING HERE IS A WET ZONE.
08:13:43PM PHARMACY.
08:13:46PM NOT SERVING ALCOHOL AND INCLUDED IN THE PRIOR WET ZONING.
08:13:49PM NOTHING OF THEIR USE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO CHANGE.
08:13:52PM THEY ARE NOT SERVING.
08:13:53PM WE HAVE THE CREW'S CELLAR RESTAURANT SPACE WITH INDOOR AND
08:14:00PM OUTSIDE AREA.
08:14:01PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING -- I AM SURE COUNCIL CAN APPRECIATE
08:14:07PM THERE ARE MANY ALCOHOL APPROVALS AND STATE AND LOCAL HAVE TO
08:14:10PM BE COMPATIBLE.
08:14:11PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.
08:14:13PM PROPOSING TO ADD LIQUOR SERVICE FOR RESTAURANT PATE REASON
08:14:17PM TOS -- AGAIN, NOT PACKAGE, EASE SLATED RETAIL COMPONENT TO
08:14:20PM THIS CORNER WHICH IS 300 SQUARE FEET.
08:14:23PM THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THE APPROPRIATE STATE APPROVAL.
08:14:27PM WE ARE NOT ADDING ONE INCH OF SALES AREA.
08:14:30PM TO SPEAK TO THE WAIVERS, THERE WERE FOUR -- EXCUSE ME -- LET
08:14:40PM ME MAKE SURE I AM NOT MISSPEAKING, FOUR PRIOR APPROVED
08:14:44PM WAIVERS.
08:14:44PM WAIVERS ARE IDENTICAL EXCEPT THAT BECAUSE IT BECAME SO
08:14:49PM POPULAR AND EVERYBODY WANTED TO MOVE IN THIS AREA.
08:14:52PM THE BT RESTAURANT ACROSS THE STREET.
08:14:54PM THE SAME WAIVER, DISTANCE SEPARATION OF AB ESTABLISHMENTS
08:14:59PM AND A RESTAURANT THAT IS CLOSER.
08:15:01PM THAT IS NOW 75 FEET INSTEAD OF 187 FEET.
08:15:07PM WE HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
08:15:08PM THIS IS WAY BACK IN JULY.
08:15:10PM THIS WAS DUE TO THE HURRICANE AS I AM SURE A NUMBER OF
08:15:14PM APPLICATIONS TONIGHT WERE -- WE HEARD FROM NOBODY WITH ANY
08:15:18PM COMMENTS, OPPOSITION OR OTHERWISE, SO WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE
08:15:22PM HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED AND THIS IS A MINOR FIX.
08:15:25PM AND AN UPDATE GIVEN MARKET CONDITIONS AND CONSUMER TASTES TO
08:15:31PM REFLECT THE NEEDS FOR 2024 AND BEYOND.
08:15:34PM SO TO CONCLUDE, YOU KNOW CREW'S CELLAR IS A COMMUNITY
08:15:44PM ANCHOR.
08:15:45PM THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS.
08:15:46PM A MINOR TWEAKING SO PEOPLE ENJOYING THE RESTAURANT HAVE A
08:15:51PM BROADER ARRAY OF BEVERAGE OPTIONS CRUCIAL TO THE
08:15:54PM SURVIVABILITY TO THE VERY LOW MARGIN INDUSTRIES.
08:15:59PM IT IS AN IMPORTANT FEATURE TO HELP OUR FRIENDS PROLIFERATE
08:16:03PM INTO THE FUTURE.
08:16:03PM SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE.
08:16:05PM I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND REQUEST
08:16:08PM YOUR APPROVAL TIME.
08:16:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM?
08:16:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE HOW YOU ARE
08:16:15PM NARROWING THE FOCUS OF THE SALES AREA.
08:16:18PM BECAUSE THIS RUNS WITH THE LAND.
08:16:22PM IF GIVES US LESS CONCERN ABOUT THIS BECOMING A PACKAGE STORE
08:16:25PM IN THE FUTURE.
08:16:26PM I HOPE OTHERS LISTEN TO THAT.
08:16:27PM THANKS.
08:16:29PM >> THANK YOU.
08:16:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
08:16:33PM SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 11?
08:16:35PM I SEE NO ONE.
08:16:35PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:16:37PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:16:39PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:16:40PM OPPOSED.
08:16:41PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS.
08:16:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER AB 2-24-30.
08:16:48PM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
08:16:50PM ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SU-2, FOR
08:16:55PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, PACKAGE SALES ON-PREMISE AND BEER,
08:17:06PM WINE AND LIQUOR AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT
08:17:09PM OF LAND LOCATED AT 2506 SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE AS MORE
08:17:14PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES
08:17:19PM AND PART OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED.
08:17:21PM REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2012-63 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
08:17:27PM DATE.
08:17:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
08:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
08:17:32PM MIRANDA.
08:17:33PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:17:34PM OPPOSED.
08:17:36PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA
08:17:39PM BEING ABSENT.
08:17:40PM SECOND HEARING DECEMBER 19, 10 A.M., 301 E. KENNEDY, THIRD
08:17:48PM FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602.
08:17:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12.
08:17:51PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND
08:17:54PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:17:54PM ITEM 12, AB2-24-12 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1020 WEST BUSCH
08:18:00PM BOULEVARD.
08:18:01PM REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE
08:18:04PM CLASSIFICATION FOR THE SALE OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR
08:18:09PM CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE ONLY.
08:18:11PM LOCATION CONTAINS INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AREA.
08:18:14PM THIS SUITE IS PART OF A STRIP CENTER.
08:18:17PM AND I WILL SHOW YOU IN JUST A MOMENT IN THE PHOTOS.
08:18:20PM BUT THE AB SALES AREA FOR INDOORS WILL BE 3381 SQUARE FEET
08:18:27PM ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE SECOND
08:18:30PM FLOOR FOR A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 4010 -- THE 4010 SECOND
08:18:40PM DOOR OUTDOOR.
08:18:41PM OUTDOOR ON THE SECOND LEVEL AND INDOOR FIRST AND SECOND
08:18:45PM LEVEL.
08:18:45PM TOTAL AB AREA IS 10,272 SQUARE FEET.
08:18:50PM HOURS -- THE AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER.
08:18:57PM A TOTAL OF 16 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 56 PACES ARE PROVIDED.
08:19:05PM I WILL SHOW YOU WITH THE AERIAL NEXT TO LOCATION.
08:19:10PM THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME OF THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES DID
08:19:15PM NOT OWN THE PARCEL.
08:19:16PM THIS THE PROPERTY ON THE AERIAL MAP OUTLINED IN RED.
08:19:19PM BUSCH BOULEVARD.
08:19:21PM THIS IS N. BOULEVARD.
08:19:22PM THIS IS CHAMBERLAIN.
08:19:24PM THIS IS THE LOCATION.
08:19:25PM THE APPLICANT MIDWAY THROUGH THIS PROCESS OBTAINED OWNERSHIP
08:19:30PM OF THIS LOT.
08:19:30PM THIS LOT HAS A COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING ON IT.
08:19:33PM SO THE APPLICANT IS ALREADY RECEIVED A PERMIT.
08:19:37PM ALREADY FOR PARKING.
08:19:45PM THEY ALREADY HAVE A PERMIT FOR PARKING ON THIS LOT.
08:19:48PM THIS WAS ALREADY IN PROCESS SO THE OPTIONS WERE TO DELAY THE
08:19:52PM ALCOHOLIC REQUEST TO ALLOW THE ADDITION OF THE PARKING IN
08:19:56PM THIS QR OR TO MOVE FORWARD AND REQUEST A WAIVER ALTHOUGH THE
08:20:00PM WAIVER IS NOT AS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE APPROVALS
08:20:04PM ALREADY FOR THIS AS A PARKING LOT.
08:20:05PM STAFF SUPPORTS THE WAIVER THAT IS REQUESTED BUT YOU CAN SEE
08:20:11PM THE CG ZONING ALONG BUSCH BOULEVARD FOR THE SITE ITSELF AND
08:20:16PM I WILL SHOW YOU PHOTOS.
08:20:18PM THIS IS A PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY AND A BAR
08:20:24PM ESTABLISHMENT AT THIS LOCATION.
08:20:25PM I HAVE THE SITE PLAN TO SHOW YOU WHAT WAS SUBMITTED IN THE
08:20:28PM RECORD.
08:20:28PM THIS IS BUSCH BOULEVARD.
08:20:31PM ENTRY TO THE SITE IS ON BUSCH.
08:20:32PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE THAT EXTENDED PARKING
08:20:36PM AREA.
08:20:36PM THE ADDITIONAL PARCEL THAT THE OWNER OBTAINED.
08:20:39PM SO YOU HAVE PARKING THAT IS IN THE FRONT.
08:20:42PM THIS IS A STRIP CENTER.
08:20:44PM THERE ARE OTHER SHOPS ON THE FIRST LEVEL OF THIS AREA, BUT
08:20:47PM THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF THE AB SALES FOOTPRINT.
08:20:50PM THIS PORTION WITHIN THIS AREA WOULD BE INDOOR SALES, FIRST
08:20:55PM AND SECOND FLOOR.
08:20:56PM ON THIS PORTION, THIS IS THE OUTDOOR SALES FOR SECOND FLOOR
08:21:00PM ONLY.
08:21:10PM THESE ARE THE SITE.
08:21:12PM OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED AT THE END OF THIS
08:21:16PM BUILDING.
08:21:17PM THIS IS THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR INDOOR, AND THAT IS THE
08:21:20PM FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR OUTDOOR AREA.
08:21:22PM THIS IS A CLOSE-UP OF THE SITE.
08:21:32PM THIS SHOWS YOU THE ENTRY TO THE EXTENDED PARCEL.
08:21:35PM ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT PARCEL WHICH IS FOR PARKING.
08:21:43PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON BUSCH.
08:21:45PM THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET NORTH OF THE SITE.
08:21:53PM THIS IS FURTHER DOWN NORTH OF THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET AND
08:21:58PM A VIEW LOOKING WEST ON BUSCH.
08:22:00PM DRC STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND IT INCONSISTENT DUE
08:22:04PM TO THE WAIVERS REQUESTED AND THEN, AGAIN, STAFF SUPPORTS THE
08:22:07PM WAIVER FOR THE PARKING REDUCTION.
08:22:09PM AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
08:22:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
08:22:13PM ANY QUESTIONS?
08:22:15PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
08:22:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU.
08:22:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.
08:22:23PM >> TANIA GARCIA TORRES.
08:22:25PM GOOD EVENING.
08:22:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD EVENING.
08:22:27PM >> HOW ARE YOU.
08:22:29PM I AM THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING AND THE OWNER OF THE
08:22:31PM PROPERTY.
08:22:31PM WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS PROJECT FOR THREE YEARS NOW, MY HUSBAND
08:22:35PM AND I, AND WE ARE DOING A VENUE FOR FESTIVE PARTIES AND FOR
08:22:41PM GRADUATIONS.
08:22:42PM WE HAVE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR FOR THE OVERFLOW
08:22:52PM PARKING.
08:22:52PM WE HAVE OTHER TENANTS IN THE BUILDING, BUT THEY ARE A BEAUTY
08:22:55PM SALON AND TATTOO PLACE THAT THEY DO CLOSE BY 7:00, 7:30.
08:23:01PM WE WILL USE THE RESTAURANT, LIKE I SAID, IN A LOUNGE.
08:23:08PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU WANT ME TO SAY, EXCUSE ME.
08:23:11PM BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS FOR TWO YEARS, MY
08:23:14PM HUSBAND AND I.
08:23:15PM AND JUST A FAMILY-ORIENTED.
08:23:18PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
08:23:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:23:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU HAVE PLANS OF WHAT TIME YOU WOULD
08:23:24PM CLOSE THE OUTDOOR PATIO?
08:23:27PM >> YES, MA'AM, WE ARE THINKING OF JUST MONDAY IS NOT OPEN.
08:23:31PM TUESDAYS THROUGH THURSDAY DOING IT UNTIL 11:00.
08:23:34PM AND THEN, OF COURSE, SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS PROBABLY DO UNTIL
08:23:39PM 2:00.
08:23:40PM NO MORE THAN THAT.
08:23:41PM WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO DO VERY -- LIKE I SAID, IF WE DO A
08:23:44PM PARTY, IT WOULD ALSO BE ANY TYPE OF GRADUATION PARTY.
08:23:48PM ANY TYPE OF REUNIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
08:23:52PM WE HAVE HAD CHAMBERLAIN SCHOOL APPROACH US TO DO CERTAIN
08:23:57PM THINGS FOR THEM THERE.
08:23:57PM AND ALSO THE REALTOR COMPANY NEXT DOOR DOES WANT TO DO ALSO
08:24:03PM MEETINGS THERE.
08:24:03PM AND THINGS THERE IN THE EVENINGS, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY MORE
08:24:08PM THAN 2 A.M. ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, MAN.
08:24:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT TALKING OF THE INTERIOR.
08:24:16PM I AM TALKING FOR THE EXTERIOR.
08:24:18PM >> THE OUTDOOR -- WE DO LIVE MUSIC.
08:24:23PM IT WOULD BE INSIDE.
08:24:24PM WE DO PLAN ON DOING LIVE MUSIC, BUT A BAR, LOUNGE THING.
08:24:30PM NOTHING PRIOR TO ME -- LIKE THE CLIENT BEFORE ME.
08:24:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH, LIKE, A CONDITION
08:24:38PM THAT SAYS THAT THERE WOULD BE NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC OUTDOORS
08:24:44PM SAY AFTER MIDNIGHT?
08:24:46PM >> I WOULD CONSIDER THAT, YES, MA'AM, I WOULD, YES.
08:24:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM JUST THINKING OF THE RESIDENTS BEHIND
08:24:51PM YOU.
08:24:51PM >> THE RAILROAD IS BEHIND ME.
08:24:55PM I DON'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTS.
08:24:57PM THE RAILROAD IS BEHIND ME AND ALL COMMERCIAL IS AROUND ME.
08:25:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I AM ON A DIFFERENT -- GENERALLY I THINK
08:25:05PM OF THOSE THINGS BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE.
08:25:07PM >> THE TRAIN IS PRETTY LOUD AS IT IS, MAN.
08:25:10PM IT'S OKAY, MA'AM.
08:25:14PM I UNDERSTAND.
08:25:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
08:25:17PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
08:25:21PM COME UP AND, YES, SIR.
08:25:24PM YES, MA'AM.
08:25:24PM >> MY NAME IS JENNETTE YATES.
08:25:28PM MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE TWO BUILDINGS JUST WEST OF THIS
08:25:32PM VENUE.
08:25:32PM AND I WANT TO CORRECT THAT WE HAVE THE RAILROAD DIRECTLY
08:25:39PM BEHIND US.
08:25:40PM BUT ACROSS THE RAILROAD, ALL KINDS OF RESIDENTIAL.
08:25:45PM WHEN THEY WERE SPEAKING OF AN OUTDOOR VENUE, THAT MEANS A
08:25:51PM ROOFTOP THAT THEY PUT ON THE TOP OF THEIR BUILDING.
08:25:54PM IT BLARES -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS PERMITTED -- I DON'T
08:25:58PM KNOW IF IT IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND TO HAVE A ROOFTOP, BUT THE
08:26:03PM MUSIC BLARES.
08:26:05PM AND I HAVE A REAL ESTATE OFFICE THAT HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS
08:26:10PM FOR 48 YEARS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
08:26:14PM I HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN SATURDAY, SUNDAYS, EVENINGS WHERE WE
08:26:19PM ARE DOING BUSINESS.
08:26:20PM I OBJECT ALREADY TO THE -- I THINK THAT WITH THE CHAMBERLAIN
08:26:29PM HIGH SCHOOL BEING LESS THAN A BLOCK AWAY.
08:26:32PM YOU GOT KIDS OUT -- ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO THERE WAS A
08:26:36PM STUDENT KILLED RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR OFFICES.
08:26:39PM THEY WALK.
08:26:42PM AND I BELIEVE IT IS HAZARDOUS.
08:26:44PM IT IS MORE HAZARDOUS WITH PEOPLE COMING OUT BEING DRUNK.
08:26:48PM THEY ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
08:26:50PM THIS IS MOSTLY BUSINESS AREA.
08:26:53PM BUSCH BOULEVARD IS ALREADY HEAVILY TRAVELED.
08:26:58PM AND I THINK THIS WILL JUST MAKE IT EVEN MORE HAZARDOUS.
08:27:02PM OUR BUILDINGS ARE SEVEN FEET APART. WE FOUND BOTTLES, BEER
08:27:11PM BOTTLE ON OUR ROOF.
08:27:13PM THE ROOFS ARE SEVEN FEET APART.
08:27:16PM AND THE MORE ALCOHOL THEY DRINK, THE WORSE IT IS GOING TO
08:27:21PM GET.
08:27:21PM I OBJECT TO HAVING THE BEER BOTTLES THROWN ON TO MY ROOF.
08:27:26PM I QUESTION THE PARKING.
08:27:32PM EVEN WITH THAT SMALL LOT, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT.
08:27:37PM IN THE PAST, WHEN THEY HAD AN EVENT, THEY FILLED UP BOTH THE
08:27:43PM PARKING AT MY BUILDING AND MY BUILDING NEXT DOOR, OKAY.
08:27:48PM THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT PARKING THERE TO HAVE A BIG PARTY.
08:27:51PM I AM GOING TO LET MY HUSBAND SPEAK.
08:27:55PM AND SEE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
08:27:56PM BUT I OBJECT TO ALCOHOL BEING SOLD AT THIS VENUE.
08:28:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:28:02PM YES, SIR.
08:28:03PM PLEASE COME UP.
08:28:04PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:28:05PM >> CARL YATES.
08:28:07PM I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, POINTS THAT EVEN
08:28:12PM THIS EVENING I AM PICKING UP DEBRIS FROM THEIR ROOFTOP
08:28:16PM VENUE.
08:28:17PM YOU KNOW IT IS -- IT WASN'T PUT TOGETHER VERY WELL
08:28:20PM STRUCTURALLY, SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT.
08:28:27PM I CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT I HAVE PICKING UP THINGS THROWN FROM
08:28:30PM THEIR ROOFTOP OVER ON OUR ROOFTOP AND IN BETWEEN THE
08:28:34PM BUILDINGS.
08:28:34PM AND IT IS -- IT IS AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE
08:28:38PM SOMETIMES THAT HANG OUT IN THERE AS WELL.
08:28:40PM AND -- SO IT KIND OF DREW A DIFFERENT CROWD TO THAT AREA.
08:28:45PM BUT HAVING THE HIGH SCHOOL CLOSE BY IS ALSO A CONCERN TO ME
08:28:50PM TOO.
08:28:51PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
08:28:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:28:55PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:28:57PM ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
08:28:59PM IF NOT, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.
08:29:01PM ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
08:29:03PM ANY REBUTTAL?
08:29:08PM >> YES, SIR.
08:29:08PM I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN REGARDING THE HIGH SCHOOL.
08:29:11PM AND I THINK THAT IS MORE THAN 1,000 FEET AWAY OR SOMETHING
08:29:15PM LIKE THAT, I THINK.
08:29:16PM AND I -- I REALLY NEVER SEEN ANYONE WALK THAT WAY.
08:29:21PM REGARDING THEM SAYING WE HAVE THROWN THINGS ON THEIR ROOF.
08:29:24PM I NEVER -- THERE IS NO SALES.
08:29:28PM I MEAN THERE HAS NEVER BEEN -- WE HAVEN'T OPENED, IN OTHER
08:29:32PM WORDS.
08:29:32PM WE DO HAVE A CHURCH THAT HAD REUNIONS BEFORE.
08:29:35PM MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SPEAKING OF?
08:29:37PM BUT WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HOMELESS.
08:29:39PM AND WE HAVE BOTH HAD THAT ISSUE, HERSELF AND I.
08:29:44PM REGARDING -- I DON'T KNOW, I DID HAVE HER APPROACH ME -- OR
08:29:49PM SOMEONE FROM HER REALTOR ASK IF THEY COULD RENT OUR AREA.
08:29:55PM LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW.
08:29:59PM THE HURRICANE DID CAUSE A LOT OF DEBRIS ON HER SEED, BUT
08:30:02PM MOSTLY WE HAVE PICKED UP EVERYTHING.
08:30:04PM MOSTLY -- THE WHOLE AREA BEHIND US WE HAVE FIXED AND TAKEN
08:30:09PM CARE OF ALL THE TREES BACK THERE.
08:30:10PM ALL CLEANED.
08:30:11PM LIKE I SAID, I DON'T -- I APOLOGIZE IF SHE SAID WE THREW
08:30:17PM SOMETHING ON THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY BEER BOTTLES.
08:30:21PM WE ARE NOT OPEN.
08:30:22PM I BELIEVE THAT IS THE HOMELESS PEOPLE WE HAD ISSUES WITH
08:30:26PM BACK THERE.
08:30:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANY MUSIC AT ANY TIME?
08:30:29PM >> SO SORRY, SIR?
08:30:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANY MUSIC AT ANY TIME?
08:30:33PM >> WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE MUSIC BECAUSE THERE IS A CHURCH
08:30:36PM DOWN THERE.
08:30:37PM THERE IS A CHURCH.
08:30:38PM AND THEY DO GATHERINGS AND THEY DO FESTIVE STUFF.
08:30:41PM AND THEY DO PUT MUSIC ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS AND I THINK
08:30:45PM WEDNESDAYS THEY HAVE GATHERINGS.
08:30:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU KNOW WHAT TIME THE MUSIC ENDS?
08:30:51PM >> I DON'T KNOW, SIR.
08:30:52PM LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES THEY ARE THERE UNTIL 11:00.
08:30:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST LIKE -- LIKE TO GET A DEFINITE
08:31:02PM TIME TO CLOSE THE MUSIC IF YOU WANT THE ALCOHOL.
08:31:05PM THAT IS JUST WITH ME --
08:31:07PM >> THE DEFINITE TIME TO CLOSE THE MUSIC?
08:31:10PM IS MIDNIGHT -- IS MIDNIGHT OKAY, SIR?
08:31:14PM I AM WILLING TO -- LIKE I SAID, WE WOULD OPEN JUST UNTIL
08:31:19PM MIDNIGHT OR 11:00 DURING THE WEEK.
08:31:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU GOT TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO
08:31:26PM WITH THE MUSIC AND WHAT TIME YOU WANT TO STOP IT.
08:31:28PM >> I CAN STOP THE MUSIC AT NOON -- MIDNIGHT, I AM SORRY.
08:31:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU WANT TO SAY
08:31:36PM SOMETHING ELSE?
08:31:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, I THINK THAT IS FINE.
08:31:38PM >> IT IS ALL COMMERCIAL AREA, SIR.
08:31:42PM THE OFFICE IS CLOSED --
08:31:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME FINISH.
08:31:45PM >> OKAY, SIR.
08:31:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE UPPING ANOTHER FLOOR, THE WIND
08:31:49PM PICKS UP THE MUSIC AND TAKES IT A LONG, LONG WAY.
08:31:52PM >> IT ECHOS, SIR, I UNDERSTAND.
08:31:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOOTBALL OR BASEBALL STADIUM ENCLOSED AND
08:31:58PM YOU CAN HEAR THE MUSIC FIVE MILES AWAY.
08:32:01PM BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU.
08:32:02PM >> THE MUSIC WILL BE IN THE EVENINGS WHEN ALL THE OFFICES
08:32:07PM ARE CLOSED IN THE AREA, SIR.
08:32:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT.
08:32:12PM THE HOUR THAT THE MUSIC STOPS.
08:32:14PM >> MIDNIGHT HAVE SIR.
08:32:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WILL BE WILLING TO PUT IT ON THE
08:32:17PM SITE PLAN SO IT IS IN THE RECORD.
08:32:19PM >> IF IT NEEDS TO BE, YES, MA'AM.
08:32:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:32:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WANT TO CLARIFY JUST FOR OUTDOOR.
08:32:29PM >> JUST OUTDOOR.
08:32:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT SURE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR.
08:32:33PM DOES THAT WORK, MISS DOCK?
08:32:35PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
08:32:36PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:32:38PM WHAT ARE THE HOURS DURING THE WEEK NOW?
08:32:41PM >> WE WOULD DO FROM 11:00, LIKE I SAID TO MIDNIGHT.
08:32:45PM AND FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS UNTIL 2:00.
08:32:47PM AND THEN YOU SAID OUTSIDE ONLY UNTIL MIDNIGHT, THE MUSIC.
08:32:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVEN THOUGH -- CLOSES AT 11.
08:32:59PM >> EVERYTHING WILL CLOSE AT 11:00, YES, SIR.
08:33:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: OUTDOORS ENDS AT 11.
08:33:05PM >> NO, MIDNIGHT, HE SAID.
08:33:07PM MIDNIGHT.
08:33:09PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: MIDNIGHT DAILY?
08:33:12PM >> YES, MA'AM.
08:33:12PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE SITE PLAN
08:33:15PM MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
08:33:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE.
08:33:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION.
08:33:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
08:33:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:33:27PM OPPOSED.
08:33:28PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, READ 12.
08:33:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL READ 12 ARE, FILE NUMBER AB
08:33:37PM 2-24-12, ORDINANCE FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION.
08:33:40PM SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES OF LARGE
08:33:44PM CONSUMPTION AND MAKING SALE OF BEVERAGE REGARDLESS OF
08:33:47PM ALCOHOL -- IF I CAN TURN THE PAGE I CAN READ IT -- CONTENT,
08:33:52PM BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AND A CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT
08:33:55PM LOCATED AT 1012 WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
08:34:00PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTIONS 2 PROVIDING THAT ALL
08:34:03PM ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES ARE REPEALED.
08:34:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 1020 WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD.
08:34:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MUSIC CLOSING AT 11 --
08:34:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, MIDNIGHT.
08:34:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIDNIGHT.
08:34:18PM I FORGOT THE OTHER -- YEAH.
08:34:22PM THANK YOU.
08:34:22PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
08:34:25PM UP WANTED TO -- YOU SOUNDED LIKE 1012 -- IT IS 1020.
08:34:30PM 1020 BUSCH BOULEVARD.
08:34:33PM THANK YOU.
08:34:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:34:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
08:34:41PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:34:42PM OPPOSED.
08:34:44PM >>CLERK: MOTION WITH CARLSON AND VIERA VOTING NO.
08:34:47PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ON DECEMBER 19, 2024, AT 10:00
08:34:54PM IN OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
08:34:59PM FLORIDA, 3360.
08:35:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:35:02PM ITEM NUMBER 13.
08:35:03PM WE HAVE FIVE MORE CASES.
08:35:06PM >>LEO DeBARDELEBEN: ITEM NUMBER 13, LEO DeBARDELEBEN, LAND
08:35:11PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:35:11PM ITEM 13 IS AB 2-24-34 FOR THE PROPERTY 630 NORTH FLORIDA
08:35:23PM AVENUE.
08:35:23PM SPECIAL USE FOR ALCOHOLIC SALES SMALL VENUE ON PREMISE.
08:35:32PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AB SALES AND 1819 SQUARE FEET OF
08:35:38PM INDOOR AREA AND 382 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA FOR A
08:35:45PM TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 2201 SQUARE FEET.
08:35:49PM AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
08:35:52PM TOTAL REQUIRED PARKING IS 28 SPACES AND 28 SPACES ARE
08:35:56PM PROVIDED.
08:35:57PM I HAVE AN AERIAL MAP TO SHOW. THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED
08:36:09PM IN RED ON THE MAP.
08:36:10PM THIS PROPERTY IS ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
08:36:12PM IT IS IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING
08:36:15PM DISTRICT, WHICH RUNS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, WITH
08:36:24PM WEST LAMBRIGHT STREET TO THE NORTH AND EAST NORTH STREET TO
08:36:27PM THE SOUTH.
08:36:27PM THE APPLICANT HAS A CURRENT AB SALES APPROVAL FOR CRAFT
08:36:43PM DISTILLERY, RETAIL SHOPPER GOODS WITH PACKAGE SALES.
08:36:49PM THIS REQUEST WILL ALLOW THE ABILITY TO ADD CONSUMPTION ON
08:36:53PM PREMISES.
08:36:53PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
08:36:56PM YOU CAN SEE THE -- THE -- THE AREA THE BUILDING HERE THAT IS
08:37:00PM THE INDOOR SALES AREA.
08:37:02PM AND THEN WITH THE OUTDOOR SALES AREA IS DEPICTED.
08:37:06PM PROPERTY -- YOU ENTER THE PROPERTY ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE
08:37:13PM HERE.
08:37:13PM AND THE PARKING IS SITUATED TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST OF
08:37:17PM THE BUILDING.
08:37:19PM THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH HERE WHICH IS ON THE PROPERTY IS
08:37:26PM ALSO A -- IT IS THE SOL DE CUBA CAFE REST RANT THAT ALSO HAS
08:37:33PM AN AB SALES APPROVAL OF THE SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE AND
08:37:38PM LIQUOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES.
08:37:41PM I HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
08:37:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS WASN'T ALREADY WET ZONED?
08:37:46PM >> YES, SIR, THE CURRENT APPROVAL IS FOR -- FOR A CRAFT
08:37:50PM DISTILLERY, YEAH.
08:37:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO SAY.
08:37:56PM >> THIS THE PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:38:00PM THIS IS THE PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
08:38:04PM FROM THAT SAME ANGLE, THIS IS NORTH -- THIS IS WEST
08:38:12PM LAMBRIGHT STREET LOOKING TO THE WEST.
08:38:14PM THIS IS PHOTO OF THE REAR ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING.
08:38:18PM FROM THAT BACK PARKING LOT.
08:38:20PM HERE IS A PHOTO LOOKING NORTH ON NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
08:38:25PM AND THIS IS -- THIS IS THE VIEW FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
08:38:29PM WHICH IS A VACANT COMMERCIAL LOT CURRENTLY.
08:38:33PM THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED
08:38:38PM THIS APPLICATION AND FOUND THE REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT
08:38:42PM WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
08:38:45PM THERE IS ONE WAIVER THAT IS REQUESTED RELATED TO THE
08:38:48PM DISTANCE SEPARATION AND THAT WILL BE FROM THAT -- FROM THAT
08:38:52PM OTHER VENUE.
08:38:52PM MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED TO BE MADE
08:38:56PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
08:39:00PM QUESTIONS.
08:39:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN?
08:39:02PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH,ER IS -- SIR.
08:39:09PM APPLICANT.
08:39:10PM >> KEVIN CASEY HERE.
08:39:11PM LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE 2018.
08:39:14PM A CHANGE -- THE STATE LICENSE FOR CRAFT DISTILLERY CHANGED
08:39:19PM AND ALLOWS US TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR INDIVIDUAL COCKTAIL
08:39:23PM SALES AND EXPAND TO BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
08:39:25PM THAT IS THE REQUEST.
08:39:27PM WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TOOK
08:39:29PM COMMUNITY.
08:39:30PM AND REQUESTING FEWER HOURS THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
08:39:35PM AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED SINCE IT STARTED THERE.
08:39:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS.
08:39:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU SPECIFY WHAT THOSE HOURS ARE.
08:39:43PM >> LIMITED OUTDOOR NOISE UNTIL 10:00.
08:39:45PM NO MORE OUTSIDE TOWN OR TVS AFTER 10:00 AND CAPPED OUR HOURS
08:39:51PM AT -- WHERE DID WE END UP?
08:39:54PM THE NEIGHBORS MADE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS.
08:39:56PM 10:00 TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.
08:39:58PM 11:00 ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY AND MIDNIGHT ON FRIDAY,
08:40:03PM SATURDAY.
08:40:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:40:06PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:40:06PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
08:40:10PM ITEM NUMBER.13.
08:40:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
08:40:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
08:40:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:40:17PM OPPOSED.
08:40:18PM ITEM NUMBER 13, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:40:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE AB 24-24-34 ORDINANCE APPROVING SU -2,
08:40:33PM SMALL VENUE PREMISE HIS AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE AND
08:40:38PM MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES REGARDLESS
08:40:42PM CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THE PLOT, TRACT LAND AS
08:40:48PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF
08:40:52PM ORDINANCES ARE IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED PROVIDING EFFECTIVE
08:40:58PM DATE.
08:40:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
08:41:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:41:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
08:41:04PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
08:41:07PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION DECEMBER 19, 2024 AT 10:00 AT
08:41:11PM OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD
08:41:17PM FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33062.
08:41:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOUR MORE CASES.
08:41:25PM >>LEO DeBARDELEBEN: LEO DeBARDELEBEN.
08:41:30PM THE PROPERTY AT 2106 WEST MAIN STREET.
08:41:35PM THE APPLICANT IS DAVID MECHANIK AND PROPERTY OWNER IS 2106
08:41:39PM WEST MAIN STREET LCC.
08:41:41PM THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,
08:41:45PM BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE, PACKAGE
08:41:47PM SALES, CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES.
08:41:49PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AB SALES AND 3373 SQUARE FEET OF
08:41:55PM INDOOR AREA AND 466 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR AREA FOR A
08:41:59PM TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 4239 SQUARE FEET.
08:42:03PM THE AB SALES HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
08:42:07PM NO PARKING IS REQUIRED FOR EXISTING STRUCTURES PER THE WEST
08:42:11PM TAMPA CORE OVERLAY.
08:42:12PM I HAVE A -- I HAVE AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE ZONING ON THE SITE.
08:42:21PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY HERE OUTLINED IN RED.
08:42:23PM AND ALONG MAIN STREET.
08:42:24PM THIS IS BETWEEN NORTH ALBANY AVENUE AND NORTH HOWARD.
08:42:31PM HERE.
08:42:33PM THIS IS ALONG COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR HERE.
08:42:37PM AND YOU CAN SEE I-275 TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.
08:42:42PM THE APPLICANT HAS CURRENT AB SALES APPROVAL WITH A SMALL
08:42:49PM VENUE FOR THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE.
08:42:51PM THIS REQUEST WILL ADD LIQUOR.
08:42:53PM THE ABILITY TO SELL LIQUOR.
08:42:55PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
08:43:01PM YOU SEE THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY HERE.
08:43:03PM THIS IS NORTH MAIN STREET TO THE NORTH.
08:43:05PM AND THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SALES AREA ARE DEPICTED HERE.
08:43:09PM THIS APPLICANT CURRENTLY HAS AN AB SALES APPROVAL -- SORRY,
08:43:17PM THE PROPERTY HAS AN AB SALES APPROVAL FOR A SMALL VENUE FOR
08:43:22PM THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE I ALREADY COVERED THAT.
08:43:28PM AND I HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE OF THE SITE.
08:43:30PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE FROM WEST MAIN STREET.
08:43:40PM THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING EAST -- SORRY, LOOKING WEST ON WEST
08:43:50PM MAIN STREET.
08:43:50PM THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING
08:43:55PM RENOVATED ACROSS THE STREET.
08:43:56PM THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING EAST ON MAIN STREET.
08:44:03PM THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH ON NORTH ALBANY.
08:44:10PM YOU CAN SEE THE END OF THE BUILDING ON WEST MAIN.
08:44:13PM AND THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING NORTH ON WEST ALBANY.
08:44:17PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND THE COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED
08:44:23PM THE APPLICATION AND FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE
08:44:27PM -- WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
08:44:31PM REGULATIONS THAT IS DUE TO THE WAIVER THAT WAS REQUESTED FOR
08:44:34PM THE DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
08:44:38PM MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WILL BE REARED TO BE MADE
08:44:42PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
08:44:45PM QUESTIONS.
08:44:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
08:44:47PM NO?
08:44:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:44:49PM MR. MECHANIK, APPLICANT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:44:51PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
08:44:56PM MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK.
08:44:58PM EXCUSE MY APPEARANCE.
08:45:01PM I HAD A MEDICAL PROCEDURE YESTERDAY.
08:45:03PM DOCTOR TOLD ME I SHOULD NOT TRAVEL.
08:45:07PM DO NOT DRIVE.
08:45:08PM SO I WAS DOING THIS VIRTUALLY UNTIL MY COMPUTER CRASHED, AND
08:45:14PM -- AND I MEAN IT WAS QUITE AN EXASPERATING EXPERIENCE, BUT I
08:45:20PM DROVE VERY RAPIDLY OVER HERE.
08:45:21PM AND I MADE IT IN TIME.
08:45:23PM THANK YOU.
08:45:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYONE WHO IS LISTENING, DISREGARD WHAT HE
08:45:29PM JUST SAID.
08:45:30PM I>> WAS ON THE CROSSTOWN DRIVING FIVE MILES PER HOUR THE
08:45:34PM WHOLE TIME.
08:45:34PM ANYWAY, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, MAIN STREET,
08:45:40PM 2106 LCC.
08:45:43PM WITH ME THIS EVENING IS JARED BRAY AND HARRIET JACKSON AND
08:45:52PM HAM JONES, WHO ARE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING.
08:45:56PM HARRIET IS THE OPERATOR OF THE RESTAURANT.
08:46:00PM AND SHE COULD NOT STAY.
08:46:03PM SHE WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS EVENING.
08:46:05PM BUT COULD NOT STAY THIS EVENING.
08:46:07PM WHAT I HAVE SHOWED YOU A PHOTOGRAPH IS ON THE ELMO IS THE
08:46:15PM RED BRICK STOREFRONT.
08:46:17PM IT IS A HISTORIC BUILDING.
08:46:19PM THEY INTEND TO PRESERVE IT AND KEEP IT THAT WAY.
08:46:22PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY.
08:46:26PM LEO POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS A TECHNICAL OBJECTION.
08:46:31PM THE ONLY OBJECTION IS THE WAY WE WORDED THE WAIVER.
08:46:35PM WE HAVE ONE SINGLE SOLITARY WAIVER, WHICH IS THE DISTANCE
08:46:41PM WAIVER BETWEEN ALCOHOLIC SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, WHICH MAIN
08:46:48PM STREET, I THINK YOU CAN UNDERSTAND -- I DON'T THINK YOU CAN
08:46:50PM -- YOU CAN ESTABLISH A LIQUOR SALES WITHOUT MEETING A WAIVER
08:46:56PM ON THAT PARTICULAR STREET.
08:46:57PM AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE IN THE ELMO PHOTOGRAPH THAT THERE IS
08:47:04PM ON-STREET PARKING LOCATED HERE.
08:47:06PM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT SINCE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC
08:47:12PM WAS TOPIC OF MANY PETITIONS THIS EVENING.
08:47:16PM THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC IS -- FIRST OF ALL, WE LIMIT IT
08:47:22PM TO 11 P.M. ON THE SITE PLAN.
08:47:27PM MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE OUTDOOR AREAS IN THE BACK OF THE
08:47:31PM BUILDING WHICH FACES AN ALLEY, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, BEYOND
08:47:35PM THE ALLEY IS I-275.
08:47:39PM AND ALL THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND 275, NO
08:47:51PM RESIDENTIAL.
08:47:53PM ALL OTHER HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE AS SPECIFIED IN THE CODE.
08:47:58PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO READ OFF THE CRITERIA IF I COULD
08:48:11PM SEPARATE THESE PAGES.
08:48:12PM I APOLOGIZE.
08:48:13PM I AM JUST GOING TO PULL THIS FROM THE REPORT.
08:48:18PM INGRESS AND EGRESS, I NEED TO TESTIFY AS TO THESE FACTOR
08:48:27PM THAT ARE SPECIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE.
08:48:29PM INGRESS AND EGRESS IS VIA MAIN STREET.
08:48:33PM OFFSITE PARKING IS NOT A REQUIREMENT UNDER THE WEST TAMPA
08:48:39PM OVERLAY.
08:48:40PM REFUSE AND SERVICE AREA IS IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
08:48:46PM IT MEETS CODE REQUIREMENTS.
08:48:48PM LIGHTING, UTILITIES, DRAINAGE AND CONTROL OF ADVERSE IMPACTS
08:48:54PM ARE ALL PER THE CODE AND NO STAFF OBJECTIONS WERE LEVELED IN
08:49:02PM CONNECTION WITH THIS APPLICATION.
08:49:03PM SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
08:49:08PM QUESTIONS.
08:49:09PM AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
08:49:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
08:49:17PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO FOR ITEM 14.
08:49:23PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ NUMBER 14.
08:49:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AB 2-24-35.
08:49:34PM ORDINANCE FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
08:49:36PM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
08:49:42PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTIONS.
08:49:47PM AND MAKING LAWFUL SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL
08:49:54PM CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT,
08:49:59PM PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATE AT 2106 WEST MAIN STREET AS
08:50:04PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING ALL
08:50:07PM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED
08:50:11PM -- REPEALS ORDINANCE 2018-161 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
08:50:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
08:50:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:50:23PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
08:50:26PM DECEMBER 19, 2024 AT 10:00 IN OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL
08:50:32PM CHAMBERS 315, E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33062.
08:50:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, TO OPEN ITEM
08:50:43PM NUMBER 13.
08:50:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO HOME AND GET SOME REST.
08:50:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REOPEN ITEM 13.
08:50:52PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:50:54PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:50:55PM 13 HAS BEEN REOPENED.
08:50:58PM I GUESS A TECHNICAL ISSUE.
08:51:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
08:51:01PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:51:03PM THE APPLICANT MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY HAD AGREED
08:51:06PM UPON A CERTAIN SET OF HOURS AND CLOSING TIMES ON CERTAIN
08:51:10PM HOLIDAYS.
08:51:10PM AND THAT WAS TO BE ADDED TO THE TIME.
08:51:13PM THAT WAS NOT ON THE REVISION SHEET.
08:51:15PM AND I APOLOGIZE.
08:51:16PM SO WE ASKED THAT THIS BE REOPENED TO THE SO WE CAN STATE
08:51:20PM THOSE SPECIAL DATES THEY WOULD LIKE THOSE HOURS ON THE
08:51:25PM RECORD AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THEIR REVISIONS BETWEEN
08:51:28PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
08:51:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP AND LET US KNOW.
08:51:32PM >> KEVIN GAYCY AGAIN.
08:51:34PM THE SPECIFIC HOURS -- REQUESTED TO OPEN 1 A.M. ON THE
08:51:37PM FOLLOWING DAYS, NEW YEAR'S DAY, NEW YEAR'S EVE, GASPARILLA
08:51:41PM DAY, SUPER BOWL SUNDAY, ST. PATRICK'S CINCO DeMAYO, LABOR
08:51:48PM DAY, FOURTH OF JULY, DECEMBER 15-JANUARY 10.
08:51:52PM THAT CAPTURED OUR HOLIDAY PARTIES AND PRIVATE EVENTS.
08:51:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW DOES COUNCIL FEEL ABOUT THAT?
08:52:02PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT THESE HOURS?
08:52:06PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:52:08PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:52:10PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:52:11PM MISS DOCK, DO WE NEED TO REREAD THE ORDINANCE AND DO IT ALL
08:52:16PM OVER AGAIN?
08:52:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T BELIEVE THE TITLE HAS TO CHANGE,
08:52:20PM BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU DO A MOTION TO AMEND.
08:52:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:52:25PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE AND INCLUDE THAT
08:52:28PM REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
08:52:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO AMEND AB2-24-34 FOR REVISION
08:52:39PM SHEET.
08:52:39PM >> FROM A USER STANDPOINT, WE DO A LOT OF PRIVATE HOLIDAY
08:52:48PM PARTIES DURING THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS AND WANT THE
08:52:51PM FLEXIBILITY TO GO PAST 11:00 ON SOME OF THOSE DAYS.
08:52:55PM 1:00 AND CAPTURED THOSE THINGS AND NEW YEAR'S EVE AND THE
08:53:00PM COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS THAT BLEED PAST OUR NORMAL
08:53:03PM OPERATING HOURS.
08:53:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE DISSOLVED THE
08:53:09PM CITY GOVERNMENT WHEN YOU WERE GONE. ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER
08:53:16PM 15.
08:53:17PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
08:53:21PM LaCHONE DOCK --
08:53:23PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
08:53:27PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
08:53:28PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
08:53:30PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:53:33PM ITEM 15 ,AB2-24-36, PROPERTY 5017 EAST WASHINGTON STREET.
08:53:41PM THIS REQUEST FOR A LARGE VENUE CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE
08:53:45PM AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES,
08:53:47PM CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISE.
08:53:49PM THE LOCATION IS CURRENTLY OPERATED AS A RECREATIONAL
08:53:52PM FACILITY, A PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
08:53:55PM THE SHRINER'S LOCATION.
08:53:57PM THE AB SALES REQUESTED THE INDOOR AREA 25,317 SQUARE FEET.
08:54:03PM OUTDOOR AREA 12,948.
08:54:06PM FOR A TOTAL AB SALES AREA OF 38,265 SQUARE FEET.
08:54:12PM THE HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
08:54:16PM TOTAL OF 225 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 158 SPACES ARE
08:54:22PM PROVIDED.
08:54:22PM SO THIS LOCATION HAS CURRENT AB SALES APPROVAL.
08:54:27PM IT WAS APPROVED IN 2023.
08:54:29PM AND IT WAS UNDER AB 22-23-03 FOR A LARGE VENUE
08:54:35PM CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
08:54:38PM PREMISE ONLY.
08:54:38PM THIS WHY BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WILL ALLOW THAT ABILITY FOR
08:54:41PM PACKAGE SALES.
08:54:42PM IN ADDITION, IT ADDS AN ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SALES AREA TO THE
08:54:46PM REQUEST.
08:54:46PM SO THIS IS THE SITE.
08:54:50PM AND WE CAN JUST ZOOM OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
08:54:54PM YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.
08:54:56PM THIS IS WASHINGTON STREET.
08:54:58PM THIS IS SOUTH 50th STREET.
08:55:00PM SOME THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SITE.
08:55:03PM THE RED ACTUALLY EXTENDS BEYOND THAT -- NOT CORRECT.
08:55:06PM IT REALLY SHOULD BE THIS YELLOW LINE HERE.
08:55:10PM THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
08:55:11PM BUT THE FACILITY, YOU CAN SEE, OF COURSE, IS BUILT -- IT IS
08:55:14PM IN OPERATION CURRENTLY.
08:55:15PM THERE IS AN OUTDOOR AREA THAT IS LOCATED IN THE REAR.
08:55:18PM THIS WOULD EXTEND THAT OUTDOOR AREA FURTHER TO THE EAST.
08:55:23PM YOU CAN SEE IT HAS THE CI ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.
08:55:26PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WHICH WAS SUBMITTED WITH THAT REQUEST.
08:55:30PM SO THIS IS WASHINGTON STREET.
08:55:33PM YOU CAN ENTER THE SITE ON WASHINGTON, AND THEN THE SURFACE
08:55:37PM PARKING IS JUST IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
08:55:39PM THIS IS THE OUTDOOR AREA WHICH HAS BEEN ADDED TO THIS
08:55:42PM REQUEST.
08:55:43PM BUT THE AB SALES AREA IS OUTLINED ON THE DARK ITEM ON THE
08:55:49PM SITE PLAN.
08:55:50PM I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
08:55:51PM SO THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE SITE ON WASHINGTON.
08:56:07PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW THAT SHOWS THE PARKING.
08:56:09PM ANOTHER VIEW, THIS IS THE PARKING THAT IS IN FRONT OF THE
08:56:12PM SITE LOOK TOWARD THE COMMERCIAL TOWARD 50th.
08:56:17PM THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING EAST TO WASHINGTON.
08:56:19PM THE SITE IS OFF TO THE RIGHT OF THIS PICTURE.
08:56:21PM THIS IS NORTH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARCEL.
08:56:25PM THIS IS ALSO NORTH AS IF YOU ARE LOOKING WEST FROM
08:56:32PM WASHINGTON.
08:56:33PM AND THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE AT 50th STREET.
08:56:41PM FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
08:56:43PM THERE ARE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST
08:56:47PM AND SECOND READING.
08:56:48PM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
08:56:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
08:56:53PM IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
08:56:54PM JAMIE MAIER.
08:56:57PM YES, MA'AM.
08:56:58PM >> JAMIE MAIER OF HILL WARD HENDERSON.
08:57:03PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
08:57:06PM OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE FACT YOU HAD A 12-HOUR DAY AS OF
08:57:10PM ABOUT NOW, I AM GOING TO BREEZE THROUGH MY SLIDES.
08:57:13PM AS MISS DOCK EXPLAINED, THIS IS THE GENT SHRINE CENTER AND
08:57:18PM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHO SEEN US COME BEFORE YOU IN 2021 AND
08:57:23PM 2023.
08:57:23PM A LONG PROCESS TO GET THIS SITE BUILT.
08:57:25PM THEY FINISHED CONSTRUCTING IT AND OPENED DURING COVID.
08:57:28PM SO THEY STARTED KIND OF IN PHASES.
08:57:30PM ALSO HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IT IS NONPROFIT AND CAN'T
08:57:34PM GET THEIR FUNDING AT ONE TIME.
08:57:36PM THEY SPACE THINGS OUT AND THEN THEY FINALLY GOT TO FINISH
08:57:39PM THEIR PATIO IN 2023 AND AN EVENT LAWN THAT I WILL SHOW YOU A
08:57:45PM PHOTO IN A MINUTE TO ADD TO THE AB AREA.
08:57:48PM PACKAGE SALES AND I WANT TO CLARIFY -- FOR THEM IT IS FOR
08:57:54PM CHARITY AUCTIONS, FUND RAISING AND EVENT THAT MAY BE SELLING
08:57:59PM CHAMPAGNE, BOTTLES OF PINE.
08:58:01PM NOT A STORE.
08:58:02PM BUT PACKAGE SALES TO HAVE THESE BOTTLES SOLD AT CHARITY
08:58:07PM AUCTIONS AND EVENTS SO PEOPLE CAN LEAVE WITH THEM.
08:58:10PM >> AS MISS DOCK ALREADY STATED THE EXISTING AB AREA THE
08:58:18PM WHOLE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT STRUCTURE BECAUSE MULTIPLE ROOMS,
08:58:22PM EVENT ROOMS RENTED FOR WEDDINGS AND ALL KIND OF CHARITY
08:58:25PM EVENTS.
08:58:26PM THE ADDITIONAL AREA I HIGHLIGHTED WITH A LITTLE YELLOW
08:58:30PM THERE.
08:58:30PM THAT IS THE EVENT LAWN THEY JUST FINISHED THAT WILL BE
08:58:33PM ADJACENT TO AND CONTINUOUS WITH THE OUTDOOR PATIO.
08:58:36PM AND THAT IS THE ADDITION IS 5400 FEET.
08:58:43PM THIS FOR CONTEXT, THIS IS THAT WHOLE 14,000-SQUARE-FOOT AREA
08:58:54PM OF OUTDOOR ELSE AND THE EVENT LAWN AS YOU CAN SEE IS MORE
08:58:59PM GEARED TOWARD LUXURY ELEVATED KIND OF EVENTS WEDDINGS.
08:59:04PM JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU LITTLE CONTEXT ABOUT THE INTERIOR.
08:59:09PM THEY HAVE A LOT OF SPACE SO THEY CAN HOST A WIDE VARIETY OF
08:59:13PM EVENTS.
08:59:13PM I WILL NOTE THIS IS THEIR HEADQUARTERS AND OFFICES THAT ARE
08:59:19PM NOT WET ZONED AND A SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THEIR
08:59:22PM CHARITABLE WORKS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY ARE
08:59:25PM NONPROFIT.
08:59:25PM SO HAVING THIS EVENT CENTER.
08:59:28PM THEY USED TO HAVE ONE IN DANA SHORES A SIMILAR CONCEPT, A
08:59:33PM LARGE INDOOR, OUTDOOR.
08:59:35PM AND A HUGE SOURCE OF THEIR FUNDING WHEN THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO
08:59:38PM KEEP THAT BUILDING, THEY BUILT THIS ONE.
08:59:40PM STAFF FOUND INCONSISTENT FOR THE WAIVERS THAT YOU SEE WITH
08:59:47PM MANY OF THESE APPLICATIONS.
08:59:48PM WE DID PREVIOUSLY HAVE A WAIVER APPROVED FOR 158 SPACES.
08:59:53PM PARKING LOT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE AND THEY HAVE AN
08:59:57PM ARRANGEMENT WITH THE ADJACENT MARATHON GAS STATION.
09:00:00PM THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE OPEN AREA WHERE THEY CAN PARK
09:00:05PM OVERFLOW, IF NEEDED.
09:00:06PM THEY NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE PARKING, BUT THEY HAVE
09:00:10PM SOME OVERFLOW AREA AND A VERY LARGE PARKING LOT.
09:00:13PM THEY NEVER HAD AN ISSUE OR ANY COMPLAINT OF ANYONE USING.
09:00:17PM THE MARATHON GAS STATION IS THE SITE THAT THEY NEED A WAIVER
09:00:21PM FROM BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALCOHOL SALES WITH A CONVENIENCE
09:00:23PM STORE.
09:00:24PM WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY
09:00:29PM REQUEST COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
09:00:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
09:00:31PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 15.
09:00:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
09:00:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO I HAVE A SECOND?
09:00:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
09:00:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:00:43PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:00:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVING ORDINANCE APPROVING SPECIAL USE PERMIT
09:00:47PM FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE CONSUMPTION,
09:00:51PM ON-PREMISE, PACKAGE SALES, OFF-PREMISES AND MAKING BEVERAGE
09:00:57PM REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
09:01:00PM FROM THE LOT, PLOT AND TRACT OF LAND LOCATED 5017 EAST
09:01:06PM WASHINGTON STREET, PROVIDING ORDINANCES AND ORDINANCES ARE
09:01:10PM REPEALED.
09:01:11PM REPEALING ORDINANCE 2023-06 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:01:15PM OPINION.
09:01:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:01:19PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:01:20PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:01:21PM OPPOSED?
09:01:23PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:01:25PM DECEMBER 19, 2024 AT 10 A.M. AT CITY HALL CHAMBERS 315 E.
09:01:36PM KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
09:01:41PM >> NEXT UP IS ITEM 16.
09:01:43PM >> AGENDA ITEM 16 IS AB2-2 4-37 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2000
09:01:52PM EAST 11th AVENUE.
09:01:54PM THE APPLICANT IS MARK BENTLEY REPRESENTED BY RYAN MANASSE.
09:02:00PM AND THIS REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL
09:02:06PM VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES
09:02:12PM OFF PREMISE.
09:02:13PM AB IN 2270 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA ONLY.
09:02:19PM AB SALES HOURS ARE KENT WITH CHAPTER 14.
09:02:22PM THE PARKING REQUIRED FOR THE RETAIL SALES USE IS NINE
09:02:26PM SPACES.
09:02:27PM AND THERE ARE 106 SPACES PROVIDED ON-SITE FOR THE OTHER
09:02:31PM COMMERCIAL USE THERE IS.
09:02:32PM I HAVE AN AERIAL MAP OF THE PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE THE SITE
09:02:47PM OUTLINED IN RED BETWEEN 21st STREET -- NORTH 21st STREET.
09:02:51PM AND NORTH 20th STREET.
09:02:53PM BETWEEN 12th AVENUE AND EAST 11th AVENUE HERE.
09:02:56PM THIS IS YC-5 COMMERCIAL ZONING UP AND DOWN 21st STREET.
09:03:05PM THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW APPROVAL.
09:03:13PM THEY DON'T HAVE A PRIOR APPROVAL HERE.
09:03:15PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. YOU CAN SEE
09:03:21PM THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
09:03:22PM IT'S -- THIS IS NORTH 21st STREET, EAST 12th AND EAST 11th.
09:03:27PM THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF THE BUILDING AND YOU CAN SEE THE AB
09:03:30PM -- THE PROPOSED AB SALES AREA IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
09:03:34PM THERE ARE OTHER COMMERCIAL USES, OFFICE USES, PROFESSIONAL
09:03:37PM USES IN THAT BUILDING.
09:03:40PM THIS PROPOSED AB SALES AREA HAS A SEPARATE ENTRANCE.
09:03:44PM AND THIS IS -- THIS IS THE AB SALES AREA PROPOSED IN THE
09:03:48PM BASEMENT LEVEL OF THIS BUILDING. I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
09:04:01PM PICTURES OF THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING FROM -- FROM 12th
09:04:05PM AVENUE.
09:04:05PM THIS IS THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
09:04:09PM THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE SOUTH SIDE THE BUILDING ON 11th
09:04:18PM AVENUE.
09:04:19PM THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING ALONG 21st
09:04:22PM STREET.
09:04:22PM PHOTO EAST 11th AVENUE.
09:04:33PM YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING THERE TO THE LEFT.
09:04:35PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON 11th.
09:04:38PM BUILDING ON THE RIGHT HERE.
09:04:40PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON 21st STREET.
09:04:43PM YOU CAN SEE I-4 IN THE DISTANCE THERE.
09:04:46PM THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH ON 41st STREET.
09:04:55PM PHOTO FACING WEST ON 12th AVENUE.
09:04:57PM AND FACING EAST ON 12th AVENUE.
09:05:02PM YOU SEE THE BURGER KING THERE IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT
09:05:04PM AREA.
09:05:05PM THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED
09:05:10PM THE APPLICATION AND FOUND THE REQUEST TO IT BE CONSISTENT
09:05:13PM WITH THE TAMPA -- THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
09:05:18PM REGULATIONS MINOR SITE PLAN REGULATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN
09:05:21PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
09:05:22PM THIS APPLICANT DID NOT REQUEST ANY WAIVERS.
09:05:24PM THEY MET ALL THE CONDITIONS.
09:05:25PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
09:05:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN.
09:05:30PM >> I SEE NONE.
09:05:31PM MR. MANASSE.
09:05:33PM >> GOOD EVENING, RYAN MANASSE WITH JOHNSON POPE.
09:05:37PM IF CCTV CAN BRING UP MY BRIEF PRESENTATION, I WILL BE BRIEF.
09:05:43PM ONE CLARIFICATION ON THE STAFF REPORT.
09:05:45PM LEO DID A -- HE SAID THAT HOURS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER
09:05:50PM 14 AND WE HAVE RESTRICTED HOURS ON THE SITE PLAN.
09:05:52PM 7 A.M. TO 11 P.M. SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY.
09:05:56PM AND 7 A.M. THROUGH 11 P.M. THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
09:06:00PM SO I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER FRANK
09:06:04PM CAPITANO, ALFONSO AND ELLISON.
09:06:08PM PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2000 EAST 11th AVENUE.
09:06:13PM AND YOU CAN SEE THE POST OFFICE, BURGER KING AND I-275 WITH
09:06:19PM THE SOUTH AND WEST BEING CONDOS.
09:06:21PM TO THE EAST, THERE IS A FIRE STATION.
09:06:23PM THE SITE PLAN I SUBMITTED, THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY USED AS
09:06:28PM AN OFFICE THREE FLOORS ABOVE THE BASEMENT AND REQUESTED AB
09:06:33PM AREA FOR THE BASEMENT 2272 SQUARE FEET.
09:06:36PM THE BLUE LINE ON THE SITE PLAN INDICATES THE PERIMETER OF
09:06:40PM THE BUILDING AND NO OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA BEING PROPOSED AND
09:06:45PM LIMITED CHAPTER 14 HOURS AS ON THE SITE PLAN.
09:06:48PM 7 A.M. TO 11 P.M., SUNDAY FLEW WEDNESDAY AND YOU NOTICED THE
09:06:56PM SIDEWALKS AND THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS EXIST ON THE SITE
09:06:59PM AND NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SITE LAYOUT AT ALL.
09:07:02PM ADDITIONALLY FENCED ALONG THE PERIMETER WITH GATED ACCESS ON
09:07:09PM EAST 12th AND 11th AVENUE NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS FROM
09:07:15PM PARKING TO INCLUDE AB SEPARATION DISTANCE WAIVERS.
09:07:18PM WE MEET THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AS SURVEY PLANS SUBMITTED
09:07:21PM ALONG WITH THE APPLICATION SHOWED.
09:07:23PM AND THEN JUST BRIEFLY IN CLOSING, STAFF DID FIND OUR REQUEST
09:07:27PM CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
09:07:29PM NOT REQUESTING ANY WAIVERS.
09:07:31PM WE ARE PROVIDING MORE RESTRICTIVE OPERATING HOURS IN CHOPPER
09:07:35PM 14 AND WE BELIEVE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 127-AND 27-132
09:07:42PM WITH SPECIAL USES.
09:07:43PM WITH THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE
09:07:46PM ANY.
09:07:46PM OPINION.
09:07:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON?
09:07:50PM NO?
09:07:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:07:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THIS.
09:07:53PM >> GREAT QUESTION.
09:07:56PM AND I WILL EXPLAIN IT, BUT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT IS
09:07:59PM ACTUALLY CONDITIONED.
09:08:00PM LIKE A CONCIERGE BY APPOINTMENT ONLY ESTABLISHMENT.
09:08:04PM THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.
09:08:07PM MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO GO GET A BOTTLE OF WINE.
09:08:11PM RETAIL SALES AS THE PROPOSED USE.
09:08:13PM YOU CAN'T BE A BAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
09:08:15PM RETAIL SALES IN ZONING TYPICALLY CONSIDER THAT LESS THAN TEN
09:08:19PM SEATS.
09:08:20PM SO THERE MAY BE LESS THAN TEN SEATS IN THERE TO HAVE A DRINK
09:08:23PM ON PREMISE OR MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.
09:08:30PM AND CAME UP WITH THE CONCIERGE.
09:08:34PM MORE OF A CONCIERGE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT.
09:08:38PM LIKE A SPEAKEASY.
09:08:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN YOU HAVE A PARTY THERE?
09:08:45PM >> NO.
09:08:45PM ON THE SITE PLAN RESTRICTED LESS THAN TEN SEATS.
09:08:49PM A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT AND YOU CAN'T GET MORE THAN TEN SEATS
09:08:52PM IN THERE OR LESS THAN TEN SEATS AND THERE WON'T BE ANY
09:08:56PM PARTIES.
09:08:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SHOULD PUT ONE OF THOSE IN HERE.
09:08:59PM >> DO YOU HAVE A BASEMENT?
09:09:01PM I KNOW A GUY THAT DOES AB SALES.
09:09:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS WHERE EYE BORE CITY BREWING WAS.
09:09:12PM AND HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE.
09:09:14PM >> I DON'T THINK SO.
09:09:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS NEARBY.
09:09:18PM >> UNLESS WAY BACK IN THE DAY.
09:09:21PM BEFORE THAT STANTEX OFFICE.
09:09:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE EARLY '90s.
09:09:28PM >> WHEN I WAS IN CITY OF TAMPA, I DIDN'T GO BACK THAT FAR.
09:09:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:38PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
09:09:41PM I SEE NOBODY.
09:09:42PM >> SORRY, STAFF, YOU SAID REVISIONS AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN
09:09:47PM THE STAFF REPORT.
09:09:47PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
09:09:49PM NO REVISIONS.
09:09:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE.
09:09:52PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND SECONDED FROM
09:09:55PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:09:55PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
09:09:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, CHAIR.
09:09:58PM FILE NUMBER AB2-24-37, ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
09:10:04PM CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2
09:10:09PM FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
09:10:12PM PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTIONS AND
09:10:15PM MAKING LAWFUL THE SALES OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
09:10:19PM CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT,
09:10:23PM PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 2000 EAST 11th AVENUE AS
09:10:28PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 PROVIDING ALL
09:10:31PM ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REVEALED
09:10:34PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:10:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:10:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:10:41PM OPPOSED.
09:10:42PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:10:42PM SIR.
09:10:45PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
09:10:47PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION DECEMBER 19, 2024, 10 A.M., 315
09:10:53PM E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33062.
09:10:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
09:11:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
09:11:05PM AB2-24-48.
09:11:08PM FOR THE PROPERTY AT 17501 N. FRANKLIN STREET.
09:11:13PM BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE
09:11:17PM SALES OFF PREMISE.
09:11:18PM IN REQUEST WILL CONTAIN 7989 SQUARE FEET OF INDOOR AREA ON
09:11:27PM THE FIRST FLOOR AND SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE SECOND FLOOR
09:11:31PM FOR 15,978 SQUARE FEET.
09:11:35PM THERE ARE -- ON THE SITE, A LARGE VENUE.
09:11:42PM THE USE IS A RESTAURANT, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER GOODS.
09:11:47PM SHOW THE SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
09:11:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GET THE OVERHEAD -- THE SCREEN SHOWS THE
09:11:56PM PREVIOUS CASE.
09:11:56PM THERE WE GO.
09:11:57PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THIS IS HENDERSON AVENUE AND FRANKLIN
09:12:03PM STREET.
09:12:04PM THIS IS THE AREA OUTLINED IN GOLD FOR THE AB ESTABLISHMENT.
09:12:09PM THIS MAP ZONING MAP OF THE PROMPT.
09:12:15PM THIS WAS OUTLINED IN RED.
09:12:17PM HENDERSON.
09:12:17PM N. FRANKLIN STREET.
09:12:19PM THIS IS EAST 7th AVENUE.
09:12:21PM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HAD THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE
09:12:25PM CORNER THERE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
09:12:32PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
09:12:35PM WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS FRANKLIN STREET.
09:12:38PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
09:12:39PM THIS IS THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET.
09:12:42PM YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE IN THAT VIEW.
09:12:43PM LET ME TURN IT THIS WAY.
09:12:45PM SORRY.
09:12:47PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON FRANKLIN STREET.
09:12:49PM THE SITE IS OFF TO THE RIGHT IN THIS PICTURE.
09:12:52PM THIS IS THE VIEW.
09:12:53PM THIS IS IF YOU ARE AT FRANKLIN AND LOOKING EAST ON
09:12:57PM HENDERSON.
09:12:57PM THIS IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE IN THIS PHOTO.
09:13:01PM THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE.
09:13:03PM AND THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW SOUTH OF THE SITE.
09:13:06PM AND THEN WE SWING BACK AROUND.
09:13:11PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON HENDERSON THAT IS TOWARD TAMPA
09:13:15PM STREET.
09:13:15PM THIS IS A SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
09:13:19PM AND THEN THIS IS WEST ACROSS THE STREET.
09:13:23PM OF THE SITE.
09:13:26PM DRC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
09:13:31PM INCONSISTENT DUE TO THE DISTANCE SEPARATION WAIVER OF
09:13:35PM OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
09:13:36PM AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
09:13:39PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
09:13:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
09:13:43PM MR. HUDSON.
09:13:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEVER HAD SEVEN PEOPLE SO HAPPY TO SEE
09:13:50PM YOU.
09:13:51PM >> I FEEL FLATTERED AND HELLO, AGAIN, TYLER HUDSON, ADDRESS
09:13:56PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
09:13:57PM GET STARTED ON MY PRESENTATION.
09:13:59PM WITH ME HERE THIS EVENING IS AL RODGERS THE CONTRACT
09:14:02PM PURCHASER OF THIS BUILDING ALONG WITH MAUREEN AROL THE
09:14:06PM CURRENT OWNER OF THE BUILDING.
09:14:07PM BOTH WILL SPEAK AND WILL GO IN THAT ORDER.
09:14:09PM WE KNOW WHERE THIS IS, THE FARRIS BUILDING.
09:14:13PM HALL AND FRANKLIN.
09:14:14PM THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FRANKLIN AND HENDERSON, RIGHT
09:14:18PM SMACK-DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YELLOW BRICK ROW DOOR WITH
09:14:22PM FRANKLIN STREET.
09:14:23PM THIS IS WHAT IS THERE TODAY.
09:14:25PM I WANT TO WALK THROUGH VERY CAREFULLY WHAT IS ALLOWED AND I
09:14:29PM WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SEEKING .WHAT IS ALLOWED TODAY
09:14:32PM IS BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR SALES ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE FIRST
09:14:35PM FLOOR.
09:14:35PM ABOUT 8,000 SQUARE FEET.
09:14:37PM BAR, LOUNGE USE IN PARTICULAR.
09:14:39PM AND SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY, YOU CAN OPEN FROM
09:14:43PM 7 P.M. TO 1 A.M.
09:14:45PM THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, OPEN FROM 7 P.M. TO 3 A.M.
09:14:49PM AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THAT CAME UP.
09:14:51PM I WILL GIVE YOU A HINT.
09:14:53PM RELATES TO PARKING.
09:14:54PM MANY YEARS PRIOR TO MAUREEN ACQUIRING THE BUILDING.
09:14:57PM RIGHT NOW WET ZONED FROM 7 P.M. TO 1 A.M.
09:15:02PM AND 7 P.M. TO 3 A.M. ON THE WEEKEND NIGHTS.
09:15:05PM WHAT WE ARE SEEKING TO WET ZONE THE SECOND FLOOR TO
09:15:08PM ACCOMMODATE A WET ZONING -- TO ACCOMMODATE AN EVENT VENUE
09:15:12PM RATHER THAN CHANGING FROM BAR-LOUNGE USE, IS A
09:15:17PM LARGE-EVENTUAL RUE RESTAURANT.
09:15:18PM PRETTY MUCH 8,000-SQUARE-INTO THE SPACE.
09:15:21PM TOO MUCH SPACE TO HAVE A SINGLE CONCEPT.
09:15:25PM TOO DIFFICULT TO OPERATE AND COVER THE PREMISE WITH THE
09:15:29PM SINGLE LARGE VENUE CATEGORIZATION.
09:15:32PM WE WANT TO OPEN AT 7 P.M. RIGHT NOW THIS IS TAILOR-MADE TO
09:15:39PM FUNCTION AS NIGHT CLUB AND ONLY A NIGHT CLUB ONLY.
09:15:41PM THE ARE REASON FOR THAT, WHEN THIS WAS FIRST APPROVED YOU
09:15:45PM COULDN'T PARK IT.
09:15:45PM IN 1920, THEY DIDN'T BUILD A PARKING GARAGE BUT IT WAS FULL
09:15:50PM OF CARS BECAUSE IT WAS AS CAR DEALERSHIP.
09:15:52PM ONLY TIME THAT PARKING WAS AVAILABLE IN THE PEREMPTORY OF
09:15:56PM THIS BUILDING WITH THE WET ZONE WITH THE OFFICE BUILDINGS
09:16:00PM NEARBY AND DIDN'T EMPTY OUT IN UNTIL 7 P.M. A WEIRD ORDER OF
09:16:05PM EFFECTS WITH ZONING REGULATIONS, PARKING, AND THINGS LIKE.
09:16:09PM WHAT YOU SEE ON SCREEN IS WHAT WE ARE SEEKING.
09:16:11PM PRESERVE THE HOURS.
09:16:13PM MAXIMUM HOURS.
09:16:14PM NOT MINIMUM HOURS PLACES OF THE VICINITY.
09:16:20PM THE MEATERY, ARMATURE WORKS.
09:16:25PM THEY HAVE HOURS BUT DON'T USE THEM ALL THE TIME.
09:16:28PM IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
09:16:29PM ON THE COMMITMENT FRONT, NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND AT ALL.
09:16:38PM THERE ARE LIMITED OPPORTUNITY FOR OUTDOOR SEATING.
09:16:41PM YOU COULD -- AND WE WILL HAVE A SIDEWALK CAFE TO GET
09:16:45PM PROBABLY ONE ROW OF SEATS ALONG THE SIDEWALK.
09:16:48PM A VACATED ALLEY BEHIND THE SITE WHICH IS CURRENTLY SUBJECT
09:16:52PM TO AN EASEMENT THAT COULD PROBABLY CHANGE AND MAYBE FIT
09:16:56PM SEATS IN THE BACK.
09:16:56PM DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO SURFACE LEVEL OUTDOOR.
09:17:02PM WE ARE PROPOSING A PROHIBITION ON OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.
09:17:07PM THERE HAS BEEN CONCERNS WITH ROOFTOP PLACES IN TAMPA
09:17:11PM HEIGHTS, PROHIBITING COMMERCIAL USE OF THE ROOFTOP.
09:17:14PM IT WOULD BE AWESOME CANDIDLY.
09:17:16PM HAS A GREAT VIEW.
09:17:17PM THE VIEW SHED IS LIMITED TO THE SOUTH.
09:17:19PM NO TALLER BUILDINGS, BUT WE ARE -- WE ARE WE THINK THIS IS
09:17:25PM PAN IMPORTANT THING TO HIT IT COMMIT TO.
09:17:26PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO COMMERCIALIZE THE ROOFTOP.
09:17:29PM THAT IS IN THE REVISION SHEET, THE SUPPLEMENTAL REVISION
09:17:33PM SHEET IF WE ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A MOTION FOR
09:17:37PM SUPPORT, MAKE SURE THAT IS PART OF ANY MOTION WE MIGHT GET.
09:17:41PM NOT CHANGING THE WEEKDAY HOURS PAST 1 A.M.
09:17:46PM MAXIMUM.
09:17:46PM THIS IS TAMPA HEIGHTS WHERE PEOPLE MEETING OFF SHIFT, TAMPA
09:17:50PM GENERAL.
09:17:50PM WE WANT IT TO BE A PEOPLE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME LATER IN THE
09:17:54PM EVENING.
09:17:54PM NOT TO MAKE THIS HUGE LOCUST OF NIGHT LIFE.
09:17:58PM BUT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT SCHEDULE AND HAVING A PLACE TO
09:18:01PM GRAB A BITE TO EAT AFTER 11 P.M. IN A CITY WHAT TAMPA IS
09:18:05PM BECOME SOMETHING A REASONABLE THING TO OFFER GIVEN THE
09:18:08PM INVESTMENT GOING INTO FRANKLIN STREET.
09:18:10PM I KNOW THERE ARE SOME HISTORY BUFFS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
09:18:16PM PODIUM.
09:18:16PM BRIM BY A GENTLEMAN NAMED FRED FARRIS.
09:18:20PM IF YOUR NAME IS FRED FARRIS AND THE 1920s AND SELL CARS,
09:18:24PM PROBABLY ONLY ONE BRAND YOU CAN SELL IS FORD.
09:18:27PM IT IS FRED FORD IN THE MID-1930s.
09:18:33PM FARRIS BUILDING.
09:18:35PM PAINSTAKING AMOUNT OF WORK SHE WENT TO REVITALIZE THIS
09:18:39PM BUILDING.
09:18:40PM TO LANDMARK IT.
09:18:41PM TO PRESERVE IT FOR -- NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.
09:18:45PM YOU NEVER ARE GOING TO SEE MULTIFAMILY ON TOP OF THIS.
09:18:49PM THIS IS THE BUILDING AND THE LAND IS EXPENSIVE.
09:18:52PM WE NEED TO FIND FLEXIBLE WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE
09:18:55PM MONEY AT THE BUILDING, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE ARE HERE
09:18:58PM TO GET RID OF THE NIGHT CLUB ONLY WET ZONING.
09:19:01PM SINCE THIS WET ZONING FIRST GOT APPROVED, THIS -- THIS --
09:19:06PM SOME OF YOU, THIS COUNCIL AND SOME OF YOUR PREDECESSORS, A
09:19:10PM LOT OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS APPROVED IN THE AREA.
09:19:13PM IF YOU ADD ALL THE NUMBERS, 1952.
09:19:16PM SOME OF THOSE ARE BUILT LIKE THE PEARL, 314 UNITS.
09:19:19PM OTHER ONES LIKE THE YMCA, 477 UNITS.
09:19:23PM THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT THE 321 UNITS, RAPIDLY
09:19:33PM GOING TO COMPLETION.
09:19:34PM PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE APARTMENTS WANT PLACE TO EAT.
09:19:36PM RIGHT NOW THIS PLACE IS ONLY A NIGHTCLUB.
09:19:39PM INTEREST OF IT BEING A NIGHTCLUB.
09:19:41PM THAT IS NOT THE PREFERENCE AND NOT WILL BE BEST FOR FRANKLIN
09:19:47PM STREET GIVEN THE INVESTMENT WITH THE CITY AND -- CRA HATS TO
09:19:52PM PUT REAL MONEY BEHIND THE REAL WORK THAT THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN
09:19:56PM PARTNERSHIP AND CRA AND MAUREEN WHO DESERVE AS TON OF CREDIT
09:20:02PM WHO SAW THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVITALIZE.
09:20:04PM HIDDEN SPRINGS.
09:20:07PM GREAT.
09:20:08PM REALTO, YOU NEED A CATALYTIC.
09:20:13PM HALL AND FRANKLIN AND HAD ISSUES, GROUP THAT WILL REVITALIZE
09:20:21PM LIST.
09:20:21PM WILL SPEAK TO THAT POINT.
09:20:23PM BUT THE EXTENT.
09:20:24PM I WOULD LIKE AL TO SPEAK NOW WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO.
09:20:27PM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM AND MAUREEN WILL CLOSE TO TALK ABOUT
09:20:30PM HER EXPERIENCES, UPS AND DOWNS WITH THIS PROPERTY.
09:20:32PM THANKS.
09:20:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
09:20:36PM >> MY NAME IS AL RODGERS.
09:20:38PM I LIVE AT 922 GULFVIEW.
09:20:41PM GOOD EVENING.
09:20:42PM I KNOW YOU ARE TIRED.
09:20:43PM I AM TOO.
09:20:44PM I AM UNDER CONTRACT TO ACQUIRE THE FARRIS BUILDING AT 1701
09:20:50PM NORTH FRANKLIN AND THRILLED OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESTORE
09:20:53PM AND REVITALIZE A HISTORIC BUILDING IN A CORRIDOR WE ALL
09:20:58PM BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE.
09:20:59PM BEFORE TALKING OF MY PLANS, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE
09:21:03PM BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.
09:21:04PM FIRST OF ALL, I AM NOT A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER.
09:21:06PM I HAVE BEEN A BANKER FOR 35 YEARS.
09:21:08PM I ARRIVED IN TAMPA IN 1988.
09:21:12PM AND BEGAN MY CAREER AS A REAL ESTATE LENDER AT FIRST UNION.
09:21:17PM IN 1998 ALONG WITH JOE CHILLURA JOINED MANUFACTURERS BANK
09:21:24PM HEADQUARTERED AT LAKE AVENUE AND ARMENIA.
09:21:27PM WE SOLD THAT BANK TO COLONIAL, AND AFTER WORKING FOR THE
09:21:33PM ACQUIRING BANK, WE STARTED A NEW LOCAL COMMUNITY BANK
09:21:38PM NAMED US AMERIBANK.
09:21:42PM FROM 2007 FOR TEN YEARS, WE GREW THAT BY LENDING OVER $5
09:21:47PM BILLION TO LOCAL BUSINESSES AND BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS
09:21:51PM BEFORE MERGING WITH VALLEY NATIONAL BANK.
09:21:54PM IN MY CAREER AS A BANKER, I HAVE MADE LOANS TO MANY TYPES OF
09:22:00PM BUSINESSES.
09:22:00PM SEEN MANY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES.
09:22:03PM BUT I HAVE ALSO SEEN MANY FAIL.
09:22:06PM IN FACT, MOST RESTAURANTS FAIL, WHICH IS YOUR SAYING WHY
09:22:10PM WOULD A BANKER TAKE ON SUCH AN ENDEAVOR.
09:22:13PM EXACTLY WHAT MY WIFE SAID THIS MORNING.
09:22:16PM SHE IS A RESTAURANTEUR AND HAS A FAMILY IN THE RESTAURANT
09:22:23PM BUSINESS AND SHE THINKS WE CAN DO IT BUT IT WILL NOT BE
09:22:27PM EASY.
09:22:28PM SHORT ANSWER IS THIS.
09:22:29PM I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE BUILDING AND I SEE A FUTURE IN THE
09:22:32PM NORTH FRANKLIN CORRIDOR.
09:22:33PM THE RESTAURANT CONCEPT BRIEFLY SUCCEEDED IN THIS BUILDING,
09:22:37PM FOUR YEARS SINCE THE DOORS WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
09:22:39PM AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE QUITE A BIT OF CAPITAL AND FORTITUDE
09:22:43PM TO BRING THIS BUILDING BACK TO LIFE AGAIN.
09:22:45PM NOW THAT YOU HAVE MY BACKGROUND, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY I NEED
09:22:49PM YOUR HELP TONIGHT.
09:22:50PM CURRENT WET ZONING FOR THE BUILDING IS TAILER-MADE FOR ONE
09:22:57PM USE AND ONE USE ONLY, A NIGHT CLUB.
09:22:59PM WE RECEIVED LETTERS OF INTENT FROM NATIONAL NIGHT CLUB
09:23:05PM OPERATORS WHO WANT TO COME TO TAMPA.
09:23:06PM I DON'T WANT TO OPERATE A NIGHT CLUB AND REFER NOT TO HAVE
09:23:09PM ONE AS A TENANT.
09:23:10PM I KNOW THE CHALLENGE.
09:23:12PM I WAS PART OWNER OF A BAR ON HOWARD AVENUE.
09:23:14PM AND HAPPILY I SOLD THAT FIVE MONTHS AGO.
09:23:18PM AND MOVING ON TIRED.
09:23:23PM AND TIRED OF THE LATE NIGHT PHONE CALLS AND THE THINGS THAT
09:23:26PM HAPPENED IN THAT BUSINESS.
09:23:27PM LET'S SEE.
09:23:28PM I HAVEN'T INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN
09:23:31PM DEVELOPING THE ACTUAL CONCEPTS UNTIL I KNOW WHETHER THIS
09:23:35PM APPLICATION WILL BE APPROVED, BUT I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH
09:23:38PM SOME RESTAURANT INDUSTRY VETERANS, SPECIFICALLY FRANK CHEVIS
09:23:45PM FROM SALT ROCK GRILL AND RENEE VALENZUELA FROM RENEE'S
09:23:51PM KITCHEN.
09:23:51PM WE HAVE AN OUTLINE AND A PLAN, BUT BEING ABLE TO SELL
09:23:55PM ALCOHOL TO SUPPLEMENT FOOD SALES IS A REQUIREMENT.
09:24:00PM TYLER MENTIONED A LOT OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT DON'T
09:24:05PM NEED TO PROBABLY BE REHASHED.
09:24:11PM BUT WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO THE SECOND FLOOR AS AN EVENT RENTAL
09:24:15PM SPACE WITH OVER A DOZEN WEDDINGS ALREADY BOOKED.
09:24:20PM WE BELIEVE WEDDING RECEPTIONS AND OTHER CORPORATE EVENTS,
09:24:25PM BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE PERFECT FOR
09:24:29PM THAT VENUE.
09:24:30PM I KNOW THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS OF NEIGHBORHOOD AMPLIFIED
09:24:33PM SOUND.
09:24:34PM AND REACHING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL PORTIONS OF THE
09:24:37PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:24:37PM WHILE WE ARE QUITE FAR AWAY FROM HOMES, WE ARE VOLUNTARILY
09:24:41PM WILLING TO PROHIBIT ANY AMPLIFIED OUTDOOR SOUND AND AS TYLER
09:24:45PM MENTIONED, WILLING TO PROHIBIT ANY ACTIVATED ROOFTOP.
09:24:49PM MAUREEN HAS POURED HER HEART AND SOUL INTO RESTORING THE
09:24:56PM FARRIS BUILDING, AND I DON'T JUST BELIEVE, I KNOW THAT A
09:25:00PM THRIVING ALL-DAY CONCEPT AT 1701 N. FRANKLIN STREET IS THE
09:25:04PM KEY CATALYST OF MAKING THIS CORRIDOR WORK.
09:25:07PM JUST DAYS AGO, YOU ALL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A MULTIMILLION
09:25:13PM DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN THE FRANKLIN STREET CORRIDOR AND HUMBLY
09:25:16PM SUGGEST THAT APPROVING IN APPLICATION IS EQUALLY A CRITICAL
09:25:20PM STEP TOWARD RESTORING FRANKLIN STREET TO THE PROMINENCE IT
09:25:25PM HAD DECADE AGO.
09:25:26PM I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION FOR THIS REQUEST.
09:25:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN YOU WERE AT THE MANUFACTURER'S
09:25:32PM BANK, DID YOU WORK MANNY ALVAREZ.
09:25:35PM >> MANNY AND RICHARD AND TONY AND LOU AND ALL OF THEM.
09:25:39PM I THINK THEY KNOW YOU WELL TOO.
09:25:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW CHARLIE AND MANNY'S WIFE WAS MARY
09:25:49PM ALVAREZ, OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBER.
09:25:51PM I WENT THERE AS A KID WITH MY DAD.
09:25:55PM I HAD MY FIRST CHECKING ACCOUNT.
09:25:58PM >> REMEMBER THE VELVET ROPES.
09:26:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MANNY'S OFFICE.
09:26:02PM AL LOPEZ BASEBALL RIGHT ON THE DESK.
09:26:05PM >> FRED McGRIFF AND ALL THOSE.
09:26:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
09:26:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SIR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
09:26:13PM I GOT A LOT OF LETTERS FROM THE COMMUNITY INDICATING THAT
09:26:17PM THEY WOULD PREFER IT CLOSE AT 1:00 -- 1:00 A.M. INSTEAD OF
09:26:21PM 3:00.
09:26:22PM DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.
09:26:23PM HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY?
09:26:26PM >> EXTENSIVELY -- CAN MAUREEN SPEAK.
09:26:28PM WITH THIS OUR PRESENTATION STILL.
09:26:30PM WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS -- BUT I WOULD LIKE
09:26:32PM MAUREEN --
09:26:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY WERE TALKING.
09:26:35PM >> SORRY.
09:26:35PM >> THANK YOU.
09:26:36PM YES, MAURICE EREL, 3401 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
09:26:42PM AND THIS BUILDING WAS MY VERY FIRST COMMERCIAL PURCHASE.
09:26:48PM AND DESTINED TO BE MY LAST IN CASE ANYBODY AS A TIMELINE.
09:26:54PM I PURCHASED THIS IN 2014, FREE WATER WORKS PARK, PREARMATURE
09:27:01PM WORKS.
09:27:01PM WHAT DREW ME TO THIS AREA IS THAT IT WAS A HISTORIC
09:27:05PM DISTRICT.
09:27:06PM THE BUILDING ITSELF WAS ABSOLUTELY DREADFUL.
09:27:09PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, LESS THAN A MONTH AFTER PURCHASING IT,
09:27:12PM I HAD TO REACH OUT TO DENNIS FERNANDEZ TO PLEASE COME OVER
09:27:15PM AND ADVISE ME HOW I CAN STOP THE -- THE ROOF FROM COLLAPSING
09:27:21PM WITHOUT LOSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK GRANT DOLLARS, BECAUSE
09:27:26PM BACK THEN, YOU HAD TO GET THE GRANT BEFORE YOU COULD DO THE
09:27:31PM WORK.
09:27:31PM AND WE HAD RAIN POURING IN.
09:27:33PM ALL THE WINDOWS WHEN I PURCHASED THIS WERE BRICKED OVER AND
09:27:38PM THE DOORS WERE PAINTED BLACK.
09:27:39PM THERE WAS ZERO SUNLIGHT YOU COULD GET IN AND IT WAS BEING
09:27:43PM OPERATED BY A BIKER BAR.
09:27:45PM AS FAR AS I KNEW, IT WAS OPERATING 24-7.
09:27:48PM THEY HAD HADN'T PAID RENT IN OVER SIX MONTHS AND THE OWNER
09:27:52PM OF THE BUILDING WAS FOLLOWING LET ME WALK IN.
09:27:54PM I REQUIRED THAT HE EVICT THAT TENANT BEFORE I PURCHASED IT.
09:27:59PM AND FROM THEN FOR TWO YEARS, I RESTORED EVERYTHING STARTING
09:28:05PM AT THE ROOF.
09:28:06PM ALL THE AC WAS RIPPED OFF.
09:28:08PM THE ROOF WAS REPLACED.
09:28:10PM THE UPSTAIRS 26 WINDOWS WERE MERELY POLYURETHANE.
09:28:18PM THEY WEREN'T WINDOWS.
09:28:20PM I WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
09:28:24PM I LOBBIED FOR THREE YEARS TO GET THEM TO EXTEND THEIR
09:28:31PM SERVICE DISTRICT TO REACH PALM AVENUE SO WE WOULD BE
09:28:34PM CONSIDERED PART OF IT.
09:28:36PM AND THE MOST IMPORTANT BENEFIT, TO HELP US RELOCATE HOMELESS
09:28:40PM PEOPLE AND CLEAN UP THE MESSES THAT, AT THAT TIME, WAS
09:28:45PM EVERYWHERE.
09:28:45PM RAMPANT.
09:28:46PM THE SALVATION ARMY WAS OPEN.
09:28:48PM PEOPLE WOULD LINE UP AT NIGHT ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BLOCK.
09:28:52PM THE ONES THAT DIDN'T GET ROOMS WOULD PARK THEMSELVES AROUND
09:28:56PM OUR BUILDING FOR WHATEVER SAFETY.
09:29:00PM MY NINE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WOULD NOT GET OUT OF THE CAR FOR
09:29:03PM TWO YEARS BECAUSE EVERY SATURDAY, I WOULD GO WITH A PRESSURE
09:29:06PM WASHER.
09:29:06PM I WOULD GET AS MANY PEOPLE OFF OUR SIDEWALK.
09:29:09PM AND THEN I WOULD CLEAN UP THE MESS SHE LEFT BEHIND.
9:29:11PM IT WAS A TREMENDOUS ADVENTURE.
9:29:13PM I HAVE TO SAY I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE BUILDING.
9:29:15PM I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
9:29:17PM ACTUALLY, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE BOB
9:29:22PM McDONAUGH AND FORMER BOB BUCKHORN WERE TREMENDOUS
9:29:27PM ASSISTANTS.
9:29:27PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, BOB BUCKHORN ATE LUNCH THERE MANY TIMES
9:29:30PM A WEEK ONCE THE HALL OPENED.
9:29:33PM AND I APPROACHED HIM AND HE GOT -- HE PERSONALLY IT ORDERED
9:29:38PM A STOP SIGN WHEN I TOLD HIM PEOPLE WERE GOING TO GET KILLED
9:29:41PM IF WE DIDN'T PUT A STOP SIGN ON HENDERSON.
9:29:43PM HE SAID I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
9:29:45PM HONESTLY, I JOINED HIS NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY.
9:29:49PM LONG STORY SHORT, IT'S BECOME A LIFESTYLE.
9:29:53PM UNFORTUNATELY, THE BUSINESS THAT REALLY REVITALIZED THIS
9:29:59PM AREA, THE HALL ON FRANKLIN, CAME TO A HORRIBLE END BECAUSE
9:30:06PM OF COVID.
9:30:07PM SO THE BUILDING HAS ACTUALLY BEEN VACANT SINCE DECEMBER OF
9:30:11PM 2020.
9:30:12PM PRIOR TO THAT, HE HAD 10 TO 15 THOUSAND VISA TRANSACTIONS A
9:30:18PM MONTH.
9:30:19PM THE NUMBER OF PEDESTRIANS IN THIS AREA WAS OFF THE CHAIN,
9:30:22PM AND EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS DOWN THE STREET LOVED US AND THEIR
9:30:29PM BUSINESSES WERE VIBRANT.
9:30:30PM I HAVE GOTTEN MANY LETTERS AND PHONE CALLS AND E-MAILS IN
9:30:36PM THE LAST WEEK AS NEWS HAS GOTTEN AROUND AND NOT TO DEBATE
9:30:41PM WHAT OUR COUNCILWOMAN SAID, BUT ALL OF THE NOTICES I HAVE
9:30:46PM GOTTEN ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE 3 P.M. CLOSE.
9:30:53PM BUT THEY WANT LUNCH.
9:30:55PM THEY WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HAPPY HOUR AND THEY WANT TO
9:30:59PM BE ABLE TO HAVE DINNER THERE.
9:31:00PM THIS BRINGS PEOPLE, ACTIVITY AND ALL OF THAT BRINGS GOOD
9:31:05PM THINGS.
9:31:06PM WHEN YOU HAVE NO ONE THERE, WE WILL HAVE REPEATED PROBLEMS
9:31:09PM WITH CRIME AND UNHOUSED PEOPLE.
9:31:12PM SO I CAME TO THE SAD DECISION BECAUSE I BOUGHT THIS AS A
9:31:19PM LEGACY ASSET FOR MY CHILDREN.
9:31:21PM NEITHER ONE OF THEM WANT TO PARTICIPATE NOW AFTER SEEING
9:31:24PM WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
9:31:27PM AND I CAME TO THE DECISION THAT I HAVE TO SELL IT AND THAT
9:31:31PM THE BEST PERSON TO BUY IT MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE AN
9:31:37PM OWNER/OPERATOR.
9:31:40PM I COULD EASILY HAVE LEASED IT TO A NUMBER OF BARS OR
9:31:45PM NIGHTCLUBS WHO CONTACTED ME FROM NEW YORK AND ORLANDO, EVEN
9:31:49PM A PREVIOUS OWNER WHO RAN THE CLUB CHAMBERS AND HAMBURGER
9:31:55PM MARY'S, ALL LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK INTO THIS
9:31:59PM AREA.
9:32:00PM I DON'T WANT TO BE A LANDLORD ANYMORE AND I CANNOT BE AN
9:32:03PM OWNER/OPERATOR BECAUSE I HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB WITH WELLS
9:32:05PM FARGO.
9:32:06PM I'M A FIDUCIARY FOR 200 CLIENTS.
9:32:08PM I'M AN OFFICER OF THE BANK.
9:32:10PM THAT'S MY DAY JOB.
9:32:12PM AND I NEED TO SPEND TIME THERE NOW.
9:32:14PM SO I FELT VERY BLESSED TO HAVE MET AL.
9:32:19PM I WASN'T MARKETING THE PROPERTY.
9:32:20PM I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW HE LEARNED ABOUT IT, BUT I HAVE SPENT
9:32:24PM THE LAST SIX MONTHS WITH HIM, WITH HIS VENDORS.
9:32:28PM I'VE BEEN ON THE ROOF.
9:32:30PM THEY ARE NOT ONLY GOING TO REPLACE THE ROOF, THEY'LL PUT
9:32:32PM SOLAR IN IT.
9:32:33PM HE'S GOING TO MAINTAIN $300,000 WORTH OF EXHAUST HOODS THAT
9:32:38PM WERE PUT INTO PLACE BY THE FORMER TENANT THAT I HAD TO
9:32:44PM EVICT.
9:32:44PM BASICALLY, I THINK IT WILL ONLY TAKE OFF FROM HERE WITH THE
9:32:48PM RIGHT OWNERSHIP.
9:32:49PM AND I THINK WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF US.
9:32:52PM THANK YOU.
9:32:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:32:53PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
9:33:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DID READ A LOT OF E-MAILS THAT ARE
9:33:05PM DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT BUT WAS CLEAR THE
9:33:07PM MAJORITY OF THEM DID STRESS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IT CLOSE
9:33:11PM AT 1 A.M.
9:33:13PM IT ALREADY IS TIED TO A NIGHTCLUB LIQUOR LICENSE, THEY CAN
9:33:18PM SELL UNTIL 3 A.M. IS MY UNDERSTANDING, WHICH IS BELIEVABLE.
9:33:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP.
9:33:28PM >> IN RESPONSE TO THAT, LET ME SAY I DID SPEAK WITH BRIAN
9:33:33PM SEEL AND TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION, AND THEIR CONCERN
9:33:37PM WAS ABOUT NOISE AND COMPLAINTS.
9:33:39PM I DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO COMPLAIN.
9:33:41PM THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS ABSOLUTELY BLIGHTED.
9:33:45PM THERE ARE NO HOMES.
9:33:46PM THERE ARE 8 SURFACE PARKING LOTS ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
9:33:50PM I WISH WE HAD RESIDENTIAL TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
9:33:54PM THAT WOULD BE MY ULTIMATE DREAM AND MAYBE SOMEDAY IT'S GOING
9:33:57PM TO HAPPEN.
9:33:57PM BUT IF WE DON'T GET ACTIVITY THERE SOON, IT'S LESS AND LESS
9:34:03PM LIKELY.
9:34:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
9:34:06PM I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WHERE IT IS SITUATED.
9:34:10PM I DRIVE THAT STREET EVERY SINGLE DAY.
9:34:12PM I ALWAYS LOOK OVER THERE TO SEE IF SOMETHING IS EVER GOING
9:34:17PM TO HAPPEN.
9:34:19PM >> YAY, ME TOO.
9:34:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANTED TO POINT IT OUT THAT I DID
9:34:23PM RECEIVE THOSE LETTERS.
9:34:24PM IT DOES SIT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S
9:34:28PM NOTHING AROUND IT THAT I WOULD SEE BE A GREAT DISTURBANCE.
9:34:33PM IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE SOME LIFE THERE AGAIN.
9:34:36PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:34:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
9:34:39PM WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
9:34:41PM IT'S ACTUALLY WHERE I PARK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR
9:34:45PM PARKING AT ARMATURE WORKS, SO I PARK OVER THERE.
9:34:49PM WELL, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SPACES.
9:34:51PM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SPACES.
9:34:55PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:34:58PM THERE IS A SUPPLEMENTAL REVISION SHEET TO ENTER INTO THE
9:35:01PM RECORD THAT CONTAINS THE AB SALES HOUR IN ADDITION TO THE NO
9:35:04PM COMMERCIAL ROOFTOP PERMITTED IN ADDITION TO THE OUTDOOR
9:35:07PM AMPLIFIED SOUND AND REVISION OF THE WAIVER.
9:35:10PM SO THAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT COPY, SO I WILL SUBMIT THAT INTO
9:35:14PM THE RECORD.
9:35:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:35:19PM IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
9:35:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT THIS IS ONE
9:35:25PM OF THE AREAS TRYING TO EXTEND THE STREETCAR UP FLORIDA AND
9:35:28PM BACK DOWN TAMPA STREET.
9:35:29PM THESE TYPE OF VENUES WILL ASSIST IN ACTIVATING THAT AREA.
9:35:37PM GREAT TO SEE THE OLD PICTURE OF THE BUILDING WITH THE
9:35:39PM STREETCAR IN FRONT OF IT.
9:35:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU NEED REBUTTAL, MR. HUDSON?
9:35:46PM >> TYLER HUDSON, FOR THE RECORD.
9:35:48PM I THINK YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH FOR TODAY.
9:35:50PM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
9:35:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, LET'S KEEP GOING.
9:35:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIGHT AS WELL GO TILL 10:00.
9:35:57PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
9:35:58PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
9:36:01PM I LEFT OFF WITH --
9:36:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STREETCAR GUY.
9:36:06PM CHOO-CHOO ALAN.
9:36:13PM NO, NO.
9:36:14PM DON'T WANT THAT TO STICK.
9:36:16PM DID NOT WORK OUT WELL FOR THE LAST GUY.
9:36:18PM MOVE FILE AB 2-24-48, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
9:36:23PM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
9:36:26PM PERMIT SU 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE,
9:36:31PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES, PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF
9:36:35PM PREMISES AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS
9:36:37PM OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT
9:36:41PM CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1701 NORTH
9:36:44PM FRANKLIN STREET AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3,
9:36:48PM PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
9:36:51PM CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2013-125,
9:36:56PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, ALONG WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL
9:37:01PM REVISION SHEET.
9:37:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:37:05PM CLENDENIN.
9:37:05PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:37:07PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:37:08PM AYE.
9:37:08PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH SECOND READING
9:37:10PM AND ADOPTION BEING HELD ON DECEMBER 19, 2024, AT 10:00 A.M.
9:37:16PM AT OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 EAST KENNEDY
9:37:19PM BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
9:37:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:37:24PM THAT CONCLUDES THIS VERY LONG CITY COUNCIL DAY.
9:37:28PM I JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
9:37:36PM THIS YEAR, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THESE ENDLESS CITY COUNCIL
9:37:39PM MEETINGS.
9:37:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY WONDERFUL AIDE.
9:37:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
9:37:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ANY NEW BUSINESS?
9:37:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAD 20.
9:37:52PM BUT I'LL LEAVE THEM FOR LATER.
9:37:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE DISCUSSED THIS.
9:37:56PM I HAVE TO MAKE IT FORMAL.
9:37:58PM IT WAS DEALING WITH THE COUNTY'S PRESENTATION TONIGHT ON THE
9:38:02PM CITY-COUNTY REVIEW ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING
9:38:08PM POST-MILTON AND HELENE AND THEIR REVIEW.
9:38:11PM TO MAKE IT OFFICIALLY A CITY-COUNTY, AS WELL AS TEMPLE
9:38:17PM TERRACE AND PLANT CITY ENDEAVOR, THE IDEA IS FOR US TO JUST
9:38:21PM GIVE A TINY AMOUNT OF MONEY JUST FOR CONSIDERATION, IF YOU
9:38:25PM WILL.
9:38:26PM I'VE SPOKEN TO TEMPLE TERRACE AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT DOING
9:38:28PM THE SAME THING AND I BELIEVE PLANT CITY.
9:38:30PM THIS IS, BY THE WAY, I THINK HALF A MILLION DOLLAR, AND I'M
9:38:34PM REQUESTING A VERY TINY AMOUNT, ADMINISTRATION HAS NO
9:38:37PM OBJECTION TO IT, AS DISCUSSED.
9:38:39PM MOTION ADMINISTRATION PREPARE A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION FOR
9:38:41PM COUNCIL CONSIDERATION APPROPRIATING $50,000 FROM THE GENERAL
9:38:44PM FUND, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE AMOUNT, TO SUPPORT THE
9:38:47PM POST-HURRICANE COUNTYWIDE INTEGRATED STORMWATER SYSTEM
9:38:50PM REVIEW.
9:38:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:38:52PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:38:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
9:39:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YEAH.
9:39:04PM IT'S THE REVIEW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
9:39:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
9:39:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:39:12PM AYE.
9:39:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
9:39:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
9:39:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
9:39:18PM I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO PUT A DATE ON THIS.
9:39:20PM I'LL JUST HAVE IT -- I DIDN'T HAVE IT HERE.
9:39:25PM IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL.
9:39:30PM DECEMBER --
9:39:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE DATES IN DECEMBER.
9:39:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S NOT LIKE A PRESENTATION, LIKE ON THE
9:39:40PM CONSENT AGENDA.
9:39:41PM THE NEXT CONSENT AGENDA.
9:39:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S DUE NEXT WEEK.
9:39:46PM I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO.
9:39:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: DECEMBER 19.
9:39:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
9:39:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:39:54PM AYE.
9:39:56PM ANYTHING ELSE?
9:39:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, SIR.
9:39:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:40:01PM >>THE CLERK: MAKE THE MOTION -- [INAUDIBLE] --
9:40:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, LONG DAY.
9:40:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:40:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN ALSO DO IT DECEMBER 5.
9:40:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: DECEMBER 19 OR 5 IT WAS, I HAD SOMETHING ON
9:40:22PM BUSCH BOULEVARD AND THE HOMELESS.
9:40:23PM THANK YOU FOR THAT, SULING.
9:40:28PM DECEMBER 5.
9:40:29PM IT WAS DECEMBER 5.
9:40:31PM I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT TRINITY CAFE TO JUST A REPORT AS
9:40:36PM OPPOSED TO A PRESENTATION.
9:40:38PM YES, SIR.
9:40:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
9:40:40PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:40:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:40:42PM AYE.
9:40:43PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:40:43PM ANYTHING ELSE.
9:40:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT, ONE MORE WHEN I THINK
9:40:47PM ABOUT IT.
9:40:48PM I HAD TODAY'S ITEM ON TAMPA FIRE COMING BACK DECEMBER 5.
9:40:52PM I WANT TO INCLUDE THAT, AMEND THAT FOR DECEMBER 5 TO ALSO
9:40:57PM REPORT ON THE STATUS OF STATION 24.
9:41:00PM BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE LAND.
9:41:02PM JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THAT TO INCLUDE THE STATUS OF 24,
9:41:07PM INCLUDES PERSONNEL FOR 24.
9:41:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
9:41:11PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:41:14PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:41:15PM AYE.
9:41:15PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON?
9:41:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
9:41:20PM I JUST HAVE A CALENDAR REQUEST FOR 2025.
9:41:25PM EVERY YEAR, THE THIRD THURSDAY OF NOVEMBER IS ALWAYS GREAT
9:41:29PM AMERICAN TEACH IN.
9:41:31PM FOR OUR DAYTIME HOURS I WOULD LIKE FOR US NOT TO MEET ON
9:41:35PM GREAT AMERICAN TEACH IN NOVEMBER 20, 2025.
9:41:38PM SO THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN GREAT AMERICAN TEACH-IN WHICH
9:41:42PM I MISSED TODAY, SADLY.
9:41:44PM BUT WE CAN STILL HAVE OUR EVENING MEETING.
9:41:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T NORMALLY HAVE AN --
9:41:51PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:41:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY WHY DON'T WE HAVE REGULAR
9:41:55PM SESSION THAT STARTS AT 1 P.M.
9:42:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
9:42:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALL RECEIVED A LETTER ASKING US TO
9:42:09PM PARTICIPATE.
9:42:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY MESS UP PROCESSES FOR SETTING
9:42:15PM HEARINGS, ADVERTISING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:42:17PM SECOND READS HAVE TO BE NOTICED --
9:42:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE WERE ALL INVITED TO GREAT AMERICAN
9:42:24PM TEACH-IN.
9:42:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE HOLD THIS TO DECEMBER?
9:42:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DECEMBER 5 IS THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
9:42:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S NEXT YEAR, SO WE HAVE TIME TO THINK
9:42:36PM ABOUT THIS.
9:42:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF WE DO IT NOW, WE CAN JUST DO IT.
9:42:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK --
9:42:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE.
9:42:46PM WE DO.
9:42:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THING IS, I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU,
9:42:52PM COUNCIL, THAT IS THE LAST MEETING BEFORE A TWO-WEEK HOLIDAY
9:42:57PM FOR ONE WEEK.
9:42:58PM YOU HAVE TWO WEEKS OFF AND THEN TWO WEEKS OFF IN DECEMBER.
9:43:01PM THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO GO THROUGH THINGS OnBase, BE
9:43:04PM ABLE TO GET TO COUNCIL IN A TIMELY FASHION.
9:43:07PM IT'S UP TO COUNCIL.
9:43:08PM I SUGGEST YOU LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE CHANGES
9:43:11PM TO THE PROCESSES WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION.
9:43:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE MEET INSTEAD OF 1:00, AT 10:30.
9:43:21PM THAT GIVES US 8 A.M. TO 10:00 TO DO THAT.
9:43:25PM I LOVE DOING THAT AS WELL.
9:43:27PM IS THAT GOOD?
9:43:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, IT'S NOT, ACTUALLY.
9:43:32PM GREAT AMERICAN TEACH-IN, WE CAN START AT 11 WOULD BE BETTER.
9:43:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE NOT GOING TO BE A NIGHT MEETING
9:43:44PM THAT NIGHT?
9:43:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE HAVING ONE NOW BECAUSE OF THE
9:43:51PM HURRICANE.
9:43:52PM >>THE CLERK: HURRICANE AND COUNCIL'S OCTOBER MEETING --
9:43:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 11 A.M., NOVEMBER 20, 2025, GREAT AMERICAN
9:44:02PM TEACH-IN.
9:44:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
9:44:05PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:44:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:44:07PM AYE.
9:44:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:44:10PM LET ME WRITE 11 A.M.
9:44:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, ANY NEW
9:44:15PM BUSINESS?
9:44:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE NOTHING.
9:44:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK?
9:44:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEHOW I DID IT LAST YEAR.
9:44:29PM I DON'T KNOW HOW I DID THAT.
9:44:30PM MAYBE I DID IT ON A DIFFERENT DAY.
9:44:35PM MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE SENT A MEMO OUT LAST WEEK ABOUT DOING AN
9:44:42PM IN-PERSON COMMENDATION FOR ANDY JOHNSON.
9:44:45PM I THINK YOU ALL KNOW HIM.
9:44:46PM RETIRED METEOROLOGIST.
9:44:49PM DURING THE STORMS, HE VOLUNTARILY SENT OUT A LOT OF VALUABLE
9:44:55PM INFORMATION THAT HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE.
9:44:56PM HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE STORM SURGE
9:44:59PM WAS GOING TO HIT EVERYONE.
9:45:03PM SO THERE'S SOME TIME SENSITIVITY TO THIS.
9:45:08PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT AN IN-CHAMBER
9:45:14PM COMMENDATION ON DECEMBER 19, 2024, TO ANDY JOHNSON, FORENSIC
9:45:20PM METEOROLOGIST FOR HIS PUBLIC SERVICE DURING THE 2024
9:45:22PM HURRICANE SEASON.
9:45:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:45:25PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:45:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:45:27PM AYE.
9:45:28PM YES, SIR, ANYTHING ELSE?
9:45:30PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
9:45:33PM HENDERSON WITH THE MOTION, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:45:35PM CLENDENIN.
9:45:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:45:36PM AYE.
9:45:37PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:45:37PM HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
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