CRA
THURSDAY, JANUARY 16, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:01:40AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:01:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:01:41AM WE'RE CALLING THIS JANUARY FIRST OF THE YEAR CRA BOARD
9:01:44AM MEETING TO ORDER.
9:01:45AM WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE OF
9:01:49AM ALLEGIANCE.
9:01:51AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON HAS SOMEONE TO INTRODUCE FOR OUR --
9:01:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
9:01:55AM I HAVE BILL MITCHELL.
9:01:56AM BILL IS A NATIVE FLORIDIAN WHO MOVED TO THE TAMPA AREA IN
9:02:00AM 2008 TO HELP ESTABLISH THE AIR FORCE RESERVE AIR REFUELING
9:02:05AM WING AT MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
9:02:07AM WHILE SERVING IN AIR FORCE, ATTENDED UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA,
9:02:10AM STETSON COLLEGE OF LAW.
9:02:12AM CURRENTLY WORKS AT THE NATIONAL LAW FIRM OF GORDON, REECE
9:02:15AM WHERE HE HANDLES A WIDE VARIETY OF LITIGATION MATTERS WITH
9:02:18AM FOCUS ON INSURANCE DEFENSE.
9:02:19AM HE WAS PREVIOUSLY APPOINTED TO SEVERAL BOARDS BY THE
9:02:22AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSION, EARLIER THIS WEEK APPOINTED
9:02:24AM BY THE PINELLAS COUNTY COMMISSION TO SERVE AS A BOARD MEMBER
9:02:27AM OF THE FEATHER SOUND COMMUNITY SERVICES DISTRICT AND HE'S
9:02:32AM WEARING A SCREEN USED TIE FROM THE OFFICE.
9:02:34AM FIGURE I WOULD TELL BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO PROBABLY KNOWS
9:02:39AM THAT.
9:02:40AM IF WE ALL WILL RISE, PLEASE, FOR THE INVOCATION AND THEN THE
9:02:44AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:02:44AM THANK YOU.
9:02:53AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:03:11AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE BLESSED OUR CITY WITH INCLUDING
9:03:14AM THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT YOU BROUGHT INTO OUR LIVES,
9:03:17AM ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HELPED TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER.
9:03:19AM THANK YOU FOR THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE DEDICATED
9:03:23AM IN THEIR LIVES TO SERVING OTHERS.
9:03:26AM THANK YOU ESPECIALLY FOR THEM.
9:03:27AM THANK YOU FOR OUR FREEDOMS IN OUR COUNTRY HERE THAT WE SO
9:03:31AM OFTEN TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT WE ENJOY HERE.
9:03:34AM FOR THE ASK PART, LORD, I ASK THAT YOU BRING HEALING AND
9:03:40AM COMFORT TO THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE HURTING, THOSE
9:03:42AM THAT ARE SICK, TIRED, LONELY, AND THOSE THAT ARE GRIEVING
9:03:47AM TODAY.
9:03:48AM HELP US ALL, LORD, TO BE BETTER FRIENDS TO THEM AND BE A
9:03:52AM FRIEND TO SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A FRIEND.
9:03:55AM HELP US TO BE BETTER CITIZENS IN THIS WORLD AND TO TREAT
9:03:58AM OTHERS THE WAY WE WOULD WANT TO BE TREATED.
9:04:00AM BLESS THIS MEETING, LORD, AND THOSE THAT WILL PARTICIPATE IN
9:04:03AM IT, CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR CITY AND BE WITH US THROUGH THE
9:04:08AM UPCOMING GASPARILLA CELEBRATION.
9:04:12AM HELP THAT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND HELP WHATEVER THAT LIGHT WAS
9:04:18AM THAT JUST BROKE GET FIXED.
9:04:21AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:04:21AM AND ALL OF OUR HEARTS SURVIVE THAT.
9:04:26AM LORD, WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME.
9:04:30AM AGAIN, WE THANK YOU FOR SO MUCH THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR US.
9:04:33AM IN YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN.
9:04:37AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:04:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:04:50AM OKAY.
9:04:52AM WE HAVE A FEW HOUSEKEEPING THINGS.
9:04:55AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA IS STUCK IN TRAFFIC.
9:04:57AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:05:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:05:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:05:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:05:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:10AM >> VIERA?
9:05:10AM MIRANDA?
9:05:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:05:13AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:05:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:05:16AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA IS STUCK IN TRAFFIC THIS AFTERNOON AND HE
9:05:19AM WILL BE HERE.
9:05:23AM ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY INTERN FROM THE
9:05:28AM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, ALEX BURMEL.
9:05:33AM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
9:05:35AM GO BULLS.
9:05:36AM SHE IS FROM CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, POLITICAL SCIENCE MAJOR,
9:05:39AM GRADUATING SENIOR.
9:05:40AM SO PLEASE WELCOME HER TO CITY COUNCIL.
9:05:43AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:05:44AM ALSO, OUR BOARD ATTORNEY IS ONLINE FOR THE DURATION OF THIS
9:05:58AM MEETING.
9:05:59AM I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT AS WELL.
9:06:01AM CAN I HAVE AN ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH?
9:06:04AM >> SO MOVED.
9:06:06AM >> SECOND.
9:06:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER
9:06:09AM MANISCALCO.
9:06:10AM SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:06:11AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:06:12AM >> AYE.
9:06:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:06:14AM THANK YOU.
9:06:14AM NOW WE WILL COME UP FOR -- MR. McCRAY TO COME UP FOR ANY
9:06:22AM HOUSEKEEPING FOR OUR AGENDA TODAY.
9:06:26AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD MORNING.
9:06:27AM CRA BOARD MEMBERS, HAPPY NEW YEAR.
9:06:30AM CEDRIC McCRAY, INTERIM CRA DIRECTOR.
9:06:35AM ULTIMATELY WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
9:06:39AM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE WAS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR
9:06:42AM ON THE APPLICATIONS, THE MEMO FOR THE WEST TAMPA CRA.
9:06:47AM THAT WILL BE CORRECTED.
9:06:50AM OTHER THAN THAT, THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.
9:06:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:07:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING NUMBER 5 TO FEBRUARY
9:07:03AM 13.
9:07:05AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: MY APOLOGIES.
9:07:07AM THAT IS CORRECT.
9:07:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
9:07:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:07:12AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:07:14AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR MOVING ITEM FILE CRA 24-8173.
9:07:20AM ALSO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:07:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE COULD GET TO THIS LATER, BUT TO BRING IT
9:07:28AM UP NOW, NUMBER 10, THE EAST TAMPA APPOINTMENTS, I GOT SOME
9:07:33AM FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
9:07:35AM MAYBE YOU ALL DID TOO.
9:07:36AM THERE ARE TWO SLOTS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD
9:07:38AM ASSOCIATIONS.
9:07:39AM THE NEIGHBORHOODS DID NOT RESPOND AND THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST
9:07:42AM IN THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER 30 DAYS TO RESPOND,
9:07:45AM FAILING OF WHICH THAT TWO GENERAL APPOINTMENT WOULD BE.
9:07:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU WANT TO PULL THIS FOR DISCUSSION?
9:07:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE CONTINUE IT UNTIL
9:07:56AM THE NEXT MEETING, UNLESS ANYONE OBJECTS.
9:08:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE
9:08:03AM APPOINTMENTS.
9:08:03AM THERE MAY BE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:06AM LET'S PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
9:08:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
9:08:10AM BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OF THE FOLKS HERE, APPOINTEES.
9:08:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CORRECT.
9:08:15AM LET'S PULL FOR DISCUSSION.
9:08:18AM ANYONE WANT TO PULL ANYTHING ELSE UNDER REQUIRED APPROVALS?
9:08:21AM DO I NEED A MOTION TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 10?
9:08:24AM NO.
9:08:27AM WE DON'T HAVE TO FORMALLY DO IT.
9:08:28AM OKAY.
9:08:29AM ALL RIGHT.
9:08:29AM ANYTHING ELSE, MR. McCRAY?
9:08:31AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: NO, MA'AM, THAT IS IT.
9:08:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL RIGHT.
9:08:33AM LET'S START WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:08:35AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THANK YOU.
9:08:36AM AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FORWARD MS. COURTNEY ORR.
9:08:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, LET'S APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.
9:08:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
9:08:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:08:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:08:45AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:08:47AM >> AYE.
9:08:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ARE YOU GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR TAMPA
9:08:55AM HEIGHTS SPEAKER?
9:08:56AM OH, YEAH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:09:01AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THE NEXT PERSON YOU WILL HEAR FROM IS
9:09:04AM MS. COURTNEY ORR.
9:09:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DON'T MIND MAKING MISTAKES.
9:09:08AM WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST.
9:09:09AM THOSE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND
9:09:12AM STAND ALONG THE WALL.
9:09:13AM ALSO, WE CAN HEAR FROM BOARD MEMBER ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE US
9:09:16AM WITH THE RULES FOR THIS MEETING.
9:09:29AM >> I'M SORRY.
9:09:30AM I'VE BEEN THROWN A CURVE.
9:09:31AM YOU MEAN ABOUT HOW LONG PEOPLE CAN SPEAK, MA'AM?
9:09:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THREE MINUTES.
9:09:36AM >> WHEN YOU SAY THE RULES FOR THIS MEETING, THAT IS THE PART
9:09:39AM I'M CONFUSED BY.
9:09:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:09:42AM THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:09:43AM IT'S OKAY.
9:09:44AM WE CAN GET STARTED.
9:09:45AM NO PROBLEM.
9:09:46AM GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.
9:09:47AM MA'AM, COME ON UP.
9:09:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD MEMBERS.
9:09:58AM MY NAME IS MARYBETH WILLIAMS.
9:10:00AM I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA
9:10:02AM RIVERWALK AS WELL AS I SERVE AS THE DOWNTOWN CRA CAC CHAIR.
9:10:10AM I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK SUPPORT
9:10:16AM FOR THE ALLOCATION OF $10 MILLION TOWARDS COMPLETING THE
9:10:19AM WEST RIVER DISTRICT MULTIMODAL NETWORK AND SAFETY
9:10:24AM IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.
9:10:26AM THAT IS A MOUTHFUL.
9:10:27AM WE BELIEVE THIS INITIATIVE WILL BE A GAME-CHANGER FOR OUR
9:10:31AM COMMUNITY, CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS, ENHANCING MOBILITY AND
9:10:36AM MAKING TAMPA'S WATERFRONT MORE ACCESSIBLE AND INCLUSIVE FOR
9:10:40AM EVERYONE.
9:10:41AM THE PROJECT WILL FILL CRITICAL GAPS IN A 12.2-MILE MULTIUSE
9:10:45AM PATHWAY ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
9:10:47AM SEAMLESSLY CONNECTING DOWNTOWN TAMPA WITH SURROUNDING
9:10:50AM NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE WEST TAMPA AND TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:10:53AM IT PRIORITIZES SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY, CREATING DEDICATED
9:10:59AM SPACES FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS THAT SEPARATE THEM
9:11:02AM FROM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
9:11:05AM BEYOND IMPROVING MOBILITY, THIS EFFORT ADDRESSES KEY
9:11:08AM COMMUNITY PRIORITIES LIKE INCORPORATING TRAFFIC-CALMING
9:11:11AM MEASURES TO COMPLETE STREET DESIGNS THAT WILL REDUCE CRASHES
9:11:14AM AND ALIGN TAMPA'S VISION ZERO GOALS.
9:11:19AM THE PATHWAY WILL BRIDGE NEIGHBORHOODS, MAKING IT EASIER FOR
9:11:22AM RESIDENTS TO ACCESS JOBS, SCHOOLS, PARKS, AND ESSENTIAL
9:11:26AM SERVICES.
9:11:27AM SHORELINE RESTORATION WILL HELP FILTER STORMWATER RUNOFF AND
9:11:31AM PROTECT AGAINST HIGH TIDES AND STORMS.
9:11:33AM A CONNECTED VIBRANT WATERFRONT ATTRACTS VISITORS AND
9:11:37AM INVESTMENTS CREATING A MORE DYNAMIC AND PROSPEROUS TAMPA.
9:11:40AM FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK IS COMMITTED TO MAKING OUR
9:11:42AM WATERFRONT A DESTINATION THAT UNITES OUR CITY, COMPLETING
9:11:46AM THIS PROJECT ALIGNS PERFECTLY WITH THE VISION BY CREATING A
9:11:49AM SAFER, MORE INCLUSIVE SPACE THAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER AND
9:11:53AM PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL.
9:11:54AM WE URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS FUNDING AND HELP US TO REALIZE A
9:12:00AM CONNECTED, THRIVING RIVERWALK THAT REFLECTS TAMPA'S BRIGHT
9:12:03AM FUTURE.
9:12:04AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR LEADERSHIP IN MAKING THIS
9:12:08AM TRANSFORMATIVE VISION A REALITY.
9:12:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
9:12:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:12:19AM >> BOARD MEMBERS, HAPPY NEW YEAR.
9:12:20AM I HOPE I CAN GET THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
9:12:22AM I AM FRAN TATE, CAC OF EAST TAMPA BOARD MEMBER.
9:12:28AM I SENT A LETTER TO ALL OF YOU YESTERDAY.
9:12:32AM I HOPE YOU RECEIVED IT.
9:12:34AM I FIRST SHARED MY CONCERNS IN 2022 AND 2023.
9:12:40AM IN 2024, DURING THE RESTRUCTURING TIME, I GAVE TIME FOR
9:12:45AM IMPLEMENTATION.
9:12:47AM UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE AT 2025 WITH THE SAME CONCERNS OF THE
9:12:50AM EAST TAMPA CAC BOARD.
9:12:52AM FIRST OF ALL, COMMUNICATION CHALLENGES WE ARE HAVING.
9:12:56AM LACK OF CLARITY AND INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE CAC OF EAST
9:13:00AM TAMPA.
9:13:01AM IT IS OFTEN INCOMPLETE AND UNCLEAR.
9:13:07AM BOARD MEETING DOCUMENTS ARE OFTEN LATE AS WELL AS
9:13:09AM COMMUNICATION WITH THE EAST TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
9:13:13AM CAC TRAINING CONCERNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS NOT EXISTED
9:13:18AM AND THAT IS SO MUCH IMPORTANT FOR US TO EXIST.
9:13:21AM MEMBERS OF THE CAC APPEAR TO BE SELECTED BY THE STAFF.
9:13:28AM ARBITRARY APPLICATION OF PROCESS FOR SELECTION OF THE EAST
9:13:31AM TAMPA CRA CAC BOARD MEMBERS.
9:13:36AM ARE ALL OF THE CAC BOARD MEMBERS SUBJECT TO BACKGROUND
9:13:40AM CHECKS AND PROVIDE TRANSCRIPTS?
9:13:43AM THESE INSTANCES HAVE WEAKENED TRUST AND MORALE WITHIN THE
9:13:52AM COMMUNITY AND HINDERS CAC EFFECTIVENESS.
9:13:56AM STAFF CHALLENGES.
9:13:57AM THE ATTITUDE AND BEHAVIOR OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA STAFF TOWARD
9:14:01AM THE CAC HAVE BEEN DISMISSIVE AND UNPROFESSIONAL.
9:14:07AM DISMISSIVE BEHAVIOR.
9:14:09AM WHILE THE CAC SERVES IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY, ITS MEMBERS
9:14:15AM VOLUNTEER SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF TIME AND PUT THEIR PERSONAL
9:14:20AM REPUTATIONS ON THE LINE MOST DEFINITELY TO SERVE THE
9:14:23AM COMMUNITY.
9:14:23AM IT IS DISHEARTENING AND COUNTERPRODUCTIVE WHEN STAFF MEMBERS
9:14:30AM TREAT CAC MEMBERS WITH DISMISSIVENESS OR LACK OF
9:14:33AM COMMUNICATION.
9:14:33AM THE LACK OF MUTUAL RESPECT UNDERMINES OUR COLLECTIVE
9:14:39AM MISSION.
9:14:39AM PROJECTS REQUESTED AND APPROVED BY THE CAC ARE NOT PRIORITY
9:14:45AM PROJECTS.
9:14:46AM LIKE MARKETING AND OUTREACH AND THE GATOR BUILDING, BUT THE
9:14:51AM STAFF WORKS ON PROJECTS THAT THEY CHOOSE TO MOVE, SUCH AS
9:14:56AM 1102 CURTIS STREET, AKA DESTINATION CHURCH, AND IN 1903 EAST
9:15:02AM PALIFOX STREET.
9:15:04AM CONCLUSION: I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE CRA BOARD TO TAKE THE
9:15:08AM FOLLOWING ACTIONS: ENHANCE COMMUNICATION PROTOCOLS, ENSURE
9:15:14AM THAT ALL PRESENTATIONS TO THE CAC INCLUDE COMPLETE AND
9:15:18AM DETAILED INFORMATION, PARTICULARLY ON BUDGETARY IMPACTS AND
9:15:24AM ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, PROMOTE UNITY AND
9:15:27AM COLLABORATION, ADDRESS THE PATTERNS AND DIVISIONS AND
9:15:32AM INCONSISTENCY BY FOSTERING A CULTURE OF TRANSPARENCY AND
9:15:37AM INCLUSIVENESS.
9:15:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'LL STOP YOU THERE, MS. TATE.
9:15:41AM YOUR TIME IS UP.
9:15:41AM IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE US WITH THE NOTES, YOU ARE FREE TO DO
9:15:45AM SO.
9:15:45AM >> AS WELL AS THE ONES YOU RECEIVED ALREADY?
9:15:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE YOUR DOCUMENTATION RIGHT HERE.
9:15:49AM >> THANK YOU.
9:15:49AM I APPRECIATE THE TIME SO MUCH.
9:15:50AM GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.
9:15:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:15:52AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:15:57AM >> UHURU.
9:15:59AM MENTESNOT.
9:16:01AM MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
9:16:03AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
9:16:06AM I WANT TO SAY THIS MORNING, WHITE PEOPLE HAVE A CERTAIN
9:16:10AM DISREGARD AND DISRESPECT FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
9:16:15AM REASON FOR THAT.
9:16:15AM A LOT OF TIMES THEY TRY TO AVOID IT.
9:16:17AM TRY TO DISCUSS OVER IT.
9:16:18AM TRY TO OVERTALK YOU WHATSOEVER.
9:16:21AM WHITE PEOPLE SEE US AS SLAVES OR GLORIFIED PETS, NOTHING
9:16:29AM MORE AND NOTHING LESS.
9:16:30AM SO WHEN YOU ENCOUNTER A WHITE PERSON OR WHEN A WHITE PERSON
9:16:35AM ENCOUNTER AFRICAN, HAVE A DEGREE OF SUSPICION OR HOSTILITY.
9:16:43AM WHEN WHITE PEOPLE, MALCOLM LUTHER KING, MALCOLM X, FRED
9:16:51AM HAMPTON, MILLIONS OF OTHER AFRICANS, THEY NEVER SEEN AN
9:16:56AM AFRICAN SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY AS A HUMAN BEING.
9:16:58AM SO THOSE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS WERE MURDERED,
9:17:06AM STATE-SPONSORED MURDER, REGULAR WHITE PEOPLE MURDERED,
9:17:11AM LYNCHED, WHATSOEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
9:17:13AM IN THIS CITY COUNCIL, IN A CITY ORGANIZED SINCE 1865, THE
9:17:20AM WHITE PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT NEVER SEEN A REAL AFRICAN.
9:17:25AM NEVER ENCOUNTERED A REAL AFRICAN.
9:17:27AM WHEN I STARTED COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I WAS ARRESTED,
9:17:30AM THROWN IN HANDCUFFS IN THE BACK OF POLICE CARS, HAD TO DO
9:17:34AM JAIL TIME JUST FOR ATTEMPTING TO COME TO THIS PODIUM AND
9:17:38AM SPEAK.
9:17:38AM WHITE PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE OUTLAW MOTORCYCLE GANG OR
9:17:44AM SOMETHING.
9:17:45AM I DON'T KNOW.
9:17:45AM BUT THAT'S HOW THEY SEE AFRICANS.
9:17:47AM AND WHEN YOU TALK OF SUBJECT MATTERS THAT INTERESTS ALL OF
9:17:55AM HUMANITY, WHITE PEOPLE FEEL YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF YOUR LANE
9:17:59AM BECAUSE THEY SAY AFRICANS AREN'T INCORPORATED OR SHOULDN'T
9:18:03AM BE INCORPORATED IN SOCIETY IN A CERTAIN WAY BECAUSE THEY
9:18:07AM DON'T SEE US AS HUMAN BEINGS.
9:18:09AM POLICE OFFICERS SEE YOU, KILL YOU FOR NO REASON, BEAT YOU
9:18:14AM FOR NO REASON, ARREST YOU FOR NO REASON.
9:18:18AM PUT FAKE CHARGES ON YOU FOR NO REASON.
9:18:20AM WHY?
9:18:21AM THEY ARE NOT USED TO SEEING A REAL AFRICAN.
9:18:27AM AND WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY IS IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT I'VE SPOKEN
9:18:31AM OF, WHEN PEOPLE HEAR AFRICANS SPEAK OF REPUTATIONS, THEY
9:18:35AM THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL.
9:18:36AM YOU ALL NEED TO GET A JOB.
9:18:39AM REPUTATIONS IS 1% OF THE AFRICAN PROBLEM OR CONCERN.
9:18:41AM BUT JUST AS COMING HERE AND BEING ARRESTED FOR TRYING TO
9:18:44AM COME TO THIS SAME PODIUM TO SPEAK IS THE SAME AS GOING TO
9:18:49AM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND TRY
9:18:52AM TO DO ANYTHING.
9:18:53AM I'M BANNED FROM FILING ANY MOTIONS IN THE COURT SYSTEM.
9:18:56AM THAT'S STRANGER THAN USUAL, BUT WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY IS FOR
9:19:01AM 2025, I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON ONE MATTER AND ONE SUBJECT
9:19:05AM MATTER ONLY, AND THAT'S CHILD SUPPORT.
9:19:09AM VERY MONOTONE.
9:19:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOUR TIME IS UP.
9:19:11AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
9:19:12AM WE DON'T SEE YELLOW BEFORE WE SEE RED ON THE TIME CLOCK.
9:19:24AM CAN THEY ADDRESS THAT?
9:19:25AM I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE THEIR RIGHTFUL AMOUNT OF TIME TO
9:19:28AM SPEAK.
9:19:29AM THE THREE SPEAKERS, IF I DID SHORTEN YOUR TIME, DO I
9:19:44AM APOLOGIZE.
9:19:44AM IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL.
9:19:45AM THE RED LIGHT CAME ON AND SAID THE TIME WAS UP.
9:19:52AM >> GOOD MORNING, ESTEEMED BOARD MEMBERS.
9:19:54AM NATHALIE HALSALL.
9:19:57AM I WAS MADE AWARE THAT THE DETERMINATION OF MY APPOINTMENT TO
9:20:00AM THE EAST TAMPA CAC WAS ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.
9:20:02AM I AM SINCERELY GRATEFUL TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS ROLE.
9:20:06AM I KNOW I WASN'T REQUIRED TO COME TO THIS HEARING, BUT I
9:20:08AM WANTED TO PUBLICLY EXPRESS MY INTEREST IN SERVING ON THE
9:20:12AM EAST TAMPA CAC.
9:20:13AM I BELIEVE I CAN PROVIDE VALUABLE INSIGHT AND REPRESENTATION
9:20:16AM IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF MY PROFESSIONAL
9:20:19AM EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF MY PERSONAL BACKGROUND.
9:20:21AM AS A TAMPANIAN, I HAVE MANY FOND CHILDHOOD MEMORIES THAT
9:20:29AM TOOK PLACE IN EAST TAMPA.
9:20:30AM LIKE GOING TO MIDDLE SCHOOL OR GOING TO THE MARKETS AND
9:20:34AM STORES THAT CAN ONLY BE FOUND IN THAT AREA IN THE EARLY
9:20:37AM 2000s.
9:20:37AM I GENUINELY WANT TO HELP MAKE THIS COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE
9:20:40AM FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF TAMPANIANS BECAUSE IT WAS SO
9:20:45AM FORMATIVE TO MY GENERATION.
9:20:47AM I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY AND I'M PREPARED
9:20:48AM TO GIVE 110% IF GIVEN THE CHANCE TO DO SO.
9:20:53AM THANK YOU.
9:20:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
9:20:55AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:20:58AM GOOD MORNING.
9:21:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
9:21:08AM MY NAME IS OMAR GERMANY.
9:21:11AM THIS IS MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE, LENNISE GERMANY.
9:21:15AM WE ARE THE OWNERS OF LIVY O'S CATERING.
9:21:19AM WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR TEN YEARS.
9:21:21AM WE ACTUALLY CELEBRATED OUR TEN-YEAR ANNIVERSARY LAST YEAR.
9:21:24AM NORMALLY WHEN I COME TO THESE MEETINGS, I HEAR A LOT OF
9:21:27AM CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE BRINGING TO YOU
9:21:28AM GUYS.
9:21:29AM WE WANTED TO BRING SOME GOOD NEWS.
9:21:31AM WE WERE SELECTED BY THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY TO BRING A
9:21:37AM PROJECT TO THE WEST RIVER AREA.
9:21:39AM SO WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE RENAISSANCE BUILDING, AND WE ARE
9:21:43AM BUILDING A RESTAURANT CALLED KULTURE KITCHEN.
9:21:46AM WE HAVE SOME RENDERINGS RIGHT HERE.
9:21:49AM WE WANT TO GO OVER THEM AND GIVE YOU A BRIEF OUTLOOK OF
9:21:52AM WHAT'S TO COME.
9:21:54AM >> THE PURPOSE --
9:21:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU NEED TO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE
9:21:57AM RECORD.
9:21:57AM >> MY NAME IS LENNISE GERMANY, CEO AND EXECUTIVE CHEF.
9:22:04AM SPECIFICALLY, JUST IN RESULT TO THE WEST RIVER PROJECT, WE
9:22:10AM UNDERSTAND THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
9:22:12AM AND FOR US, THAT WEST RIVER PROJECT IS SUPER IMPORTANT WHEN
9:22:17AM IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION AND ACCESS.
9:22:20AM I AM A TAMPA NATIVE.
9:22:22AM I HAVE FAIRLY ENJOYED WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO THE AMATEUR WORKS
9:22:27AM AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER.
9:22:29AM HOWEVER, WEST TAMPA CANNOT BE ABANDONED.
9:22:31AM IT NEEDS TO BE EQUAL.
9:22:33AM IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT A BLACK-OWNED BUSINESS SHOWCASING IN A
9:22:37AM VERY HISTORICAL DISTRICT, BUT IT REALLY TRULY IS ABOUT UNITY
9:22:43AM FOR US.
9:22:43AM THE NAME OF THE RESTAURANT IS CALLED KULTURE KITCHEN
9:22:49AM SPECIFICALLY TO BRING ALL CULTURES TOGETHER.
9:22:52AM IT IS BY US, TOLD BY BLACK PEOPLE, MADE BY BLACK PEOPLE,
9:22:58AM YES.
9:22:58AM BUT FOR US, EVERYONE HAS A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
9:23:00AM THE ONLY WAY THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE EVERYONE HAVE
9:23:03AM A SEAT AT THE TABLE IS FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT
9:23:07AM SPACE.
9:23:07AM SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A VERY NICE HIGH-END RESTAURANT.
9:23:10AM WE ARE NOT A LITTLE HOLE IN THE WALL, MOM AND POP.
9:23:14AM NO DISRESPECT TO ANY RESTAURANTS WHO ARE THAT.
9:23:16AM BUT FOR US, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO SHOWCASE THAT
9:23:20AM BLACK EXCELLENCE THAT PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT.
9:23:23AM SO FOR US WE WANT TO SHOW YOU BETTER THAN WE CAN TELL YOU.
9:23:26AM SO WE NEED THE ACCESS OF WHAT EXACTLY YOU HAVE DONE TO THAT
9:23:31AM AMATEUR WORKS, ULELE AREA, WHICH WE LOVE TO DINE IN, BUT WE
9:23:36AM NEED THE SAME ATTENTION AND TIME AND COMMITMENT AND MONIES
9:23:39AM TO THE WEST TAMPA AREA.
9:23:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
9:23:43AM >> ALL RIGHT, GOOD.
9:23:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE YELLOW LIGHT CAME ON.
9:23:47AM >> THIS ALSO WILL JUST PROVIDE JOBS BECAUSE WE DO KNOW WE
9:23:51AM ARE IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILDING, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT
9:23:55AM THAT AREA STILL HAS TRANSPORTATION ISSUES OR THOSE RESIDENTS
9:23:58AM DO.
9:23:59AM FOR US, THIS WILL CREATE JOBS FOR THEM AS WELL AS THE
9:24:04AM STUDENTS WHO GO RIGHT TO BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL.
9:24:07AM THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PROJECT FOR US.
9:24:09AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:24:09AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:24:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:24:11AM MS. VALERIE.
9:24:15AM GOOD MORNING.
9:24:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:24:21AM VALERIE BULLOCK.
9:24:23AM THAT WAS NICE TO HEAR THAT GOING ON IN WEST TAMPA, THE OLD
9:24:28AM MAIN STREET PROJECTS.
9:24:30AM I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING IN
9:24:33AM EAST TAMPA.
9:24:34AM IT IS DISHEARTENING TO JUST DRIVE THROUGH EAST TAMPA AND TO
9:24:41AM LOOK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS
9:24:45AM AND WHAT IT HAS BECOME NOW, AND ESPECIALLY THE ECONOMIC
9:24:51AM PART.
9:24:52AM I'M ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS EAST TAMPA ECONOMIC ENGINE
9:24:56AM BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE OF EAST TAMPA TO
9:24:59AM HAVE A JOB SO THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET HOUSING.
9:25:03AM EVERYBODY IS NOT GOING TO BECOME A HOMEOWNER BUT AT LEAST
9:25:06AM GET HOUSED, GET AN APARTMENT OR SOMETHING.
9:25:10AM WHEN I GO, I LOVE TO GO ON 29th, DUST BOWL.
9:25:15AM I LIKE TO HANG OUT AT PAUL LIQUOR'S STORE BECAUSE I WANT TO
9:25:19AM TALK TO EVERYDAY PEOPLE TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE AT, WHERE THEY
9:25:24AM GO AND IF I CAN SUGGEST ANYTHING THAT WILL HELP THEM MEET
9:25:27AM THEIR GOALS.
9:25:29AM BUT IT'S VERY DISHEARTENING BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO AND TRY TO
9:25:32AM GET SOME HELP, HELP SEEMS NOT AVAILABLE OR THE FUNDS RUN OUT
9:25:37AM SO QUICKLY AND THE PEOPLE THAT MOST VULNERABLE AND NEED THE
9:25:41AM HELP THE MOST, THEY DON'T GET IT.
9:25:43AM AND THAT LEADS ME TO THE RIVERWALK EXPANSION.
9:25:49AM WHEN I WAS RAISED IN COLLEGE HILL PROJECTS, HOW WE GOT TO
9:25:52AM WEST TAMPA WITH OUR -- WE WENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
9:25:58AM WE CROSSED THE BRIDGE.
9:25:59AM WE DON'T NEED NO CONNECTION, NO SIDEWALK THERE RIGHT NOW.
9:26:03AM THAT SHOULD NOT BE A PRESSING ISSUE.
9:26:06AM THE $10 MILLION COULD BE BETTER SPENT ON FUNDING AND
9:26:10AM TRAINING FOR PEOPLE TO GET JOBS FOR HOUSING, NOT JUST
9:26:16AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THAT SEEMS OUT OF REACH NOW.
9:26:18AM I'M SAYING APARTMENTS AND HOUSES WHERE THE PEOPLE CAN GET TO
9:26:22AM A KEY TO THEM, WHERE IT'S NOT JUST A DREAM.
9:26:25AM TOO MANY TIMES THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEY CATER TO THE
9:26:29AM DEVELOPERS, CATER TO THE BUILDERS, CATER TO THE TOURISTS.
9:26:33AM I CAN GUARANTEE YOU MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANT THE
9:26:36AM RIVERWALK EXPANSION, THEY NOT EVEN NATIVE TO HERE.
9:26:40AM THEY JUST WANT IT BECAUSE WHEREVER -- MOST PEOPLE, OH, I'VE
9:26:45AM BEEN TO NEW YORK.
9:26:46AM THEY GOT THIS.
9:26:47AM THEY GOT THAT.
9:26:48AM IN DUE TIME, TAMPA GET THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE SHOULD BE A
9:26:51AM GOOD STEWARD OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.
9:26:55AM LET'S PUT PEOPLE FIRST JUST ONE TIME.
9:26:58AM THANK YOU.
9:27:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:27:02AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:27:03AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:27:04AM HAPPY DR. KING WEEKEND.
9:27:08AM I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU SOMETHING THAT DR. KING WROTE TO
9:27:12AM THE BLACK MIDDLE CLASS BUT I THINK IT'S APPLICABLE TO ANY
9:27:16AM GROUP OF PEOPLE.
9:27:17AM HE SAID THERE IS A CLASS OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE
9:27:21AM A VESTED INTEREST IN KEEPING THINGS AS THEY ARE.
9:27:24AM THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE ABSORBED, WHO HAVE ABSORBED THE
9:27:29AM DOMINANT VALUES AND CHARACTERS OF THE LARGER SOCIETY AND
9:27:36AM CONDITIONED TO SEE LIFE THROUGH THE LENS OF THE MIDDLE CLASS
9:27:39AM RESPECTABILITY.
9:27:40AM THIS GROUP ARE COMFORTABLE IN THEIR RELATIVE PRIVILEGE
9:27:46AM STATUS AND SOMETIMES UNCONSCIOUSLY BECOME PROTECTORS OF THE
9:27:50AM STATUS QUO.
9:27:50AM WE COME DOWN HERE TIME AFTER -- I KNOW I'VE BEEN COMING 20
9:27:56AM YEARS.
9:27:57AM ECHOING THE SAME ISSUES.
9:28:00AM HOW DO WE IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF BLACK PEOPLE IN
9:28:04AM TAMPA.
9:28:04AM SO BY CERTAIN APPOINTMENTS, CERTAIN BLACK FOLKS GET A CHANCE
9:28:11AM IF THEY ARE SPEAKING THE ISSUES OF THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP
9:28:15AM TO SEE CERTAIN PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD.
9:28:17AM BUT IN EAST TAMPA, WHERE IT WAS VERY CLEAR FROM THE VERY
9:28:21AM BEGINNING, WHEN THE CRA WAS ESTABLISHED, THE FIRST IN THE
9:28:26AM STATE OF FLORIDA, WE WAS CLEAR ON HOW WE WANT TO CHOOSE OUR
9:28:30AM LEADERSHIP.
9:28:30AM THOSE THAT WOULD REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS.
9:28:34AM LO AND BEHOLD, THE THOUGHTS OF THE FORMER COUNCILPERSON SAY
9:28:37AM LET'S CHANGE THAT.
9:28:39AM WE DON'T WANT THAT.
9:28:41AM AND SO WHAT WE HAVE NOW IN OUR COMMUNITY IS APPOINTMENTS OF
9:28:44AM PEOPLE THAT REALLY DON'T HAVE NO VESTED INTEREST.
9:28:47AM YEAH, THEY LIVE THERE ONCE UPON A TIME.
9:28:50AM YEAH, THEY MIGHT HAVE CAME TO A MEETING ONCE UPON A TIME
9:28:53AM AGO.
9:28:54AM BUT WHEN YOU ASK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HOW WILL THESE
9:28:59AM PEOPLE ENSURE THAT THE END OF SLUM, BLIGHT, ECONOMIC
9:29:04AM DEVELOPMENT, SOMETHING FOR OUR YOUTH IS PROJECTED, THEY
9:29:07AM DON'T HEAR IT THROUGH THEIR VOICES.
9:29:10AM ALL OF YOU HAVE SAID BASED ON OUR CAMPAIGNING FOR DIFFERENT
9:29:15AM HOUSING MODELS, I REMEMBER IN 2016, IF YOU WERE ONCE UP
9:29:19AM THERE, THAT WE SAID WE WANTED A DIFFERENT HOUSING MODEL.
9:29:23AM EVEN THE MAYOR HAD HER TRANSITION TEAM GOING, THAT WE WOULD
9:29:27AM LOOK AT CONTAINER HOMES.
9:29:29AM YAY, IT WAS APPROVED.
9:29:31AM YAY, WHERE IS IT AT? NOWHERE.
9:29:33AM NOW IN EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE HOUSES WELL OVER $500,000, AND WE
9:29:38AM ARE SPECTATORS IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY.
9:29:41AM I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT WON'T BE SMOOTH SAILING FOR ANY
9:29:45AM BOARD IN EAST TAMPA THAT DO NOT CARRY OUT THE MISSION OF
9:29:50AM ELIMINATING SLUM, BLIGHT AND POVERTY WITH BLACK RESIDENTS
9:29:54AM REMAINING INTACT.
9:29:55AM THANK YOU.
9:29:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD?
9:29:58AM >> CONNIE BURTON.
9:29:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:30:00AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:30:03AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:30:04AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:30:05AM YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA MOVES LIKE THE
9:30:09AM LITTLE ENGINE THAT COULD UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS SOMETHING
9:30:14AM REAL DAMN BAD.
9:30:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. POYNOR, PLEASE WATCH YOUR MOUTH.
9:30:19AM >> IT'S TRUTH.
9:30:20AM IT'S VERY TRUE.
9:30:21AM BECAUSE IT HAPPENED WITH HANNA STREET.
9:30:23AM GOD OPENED UP THE SKY AND WE GOT IT UP LICKETY-SPLIT.
9:30:27AM AND HERE WE ARE WITH ANOTHER VANITY PROJECT, THE RIVERWALK.
9:30:31AM BUT MY QUESTION IS, SOMEBODY GAVE THIS TO ME THIS MORNING
9:30:34AM BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY NEAT.
9:30:36AM IF THE MAYOR ACCEPTED THE FUNDS FOR THE RIVERWALK IN 2020,
9:30:41AM WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW?
9:30:43AM WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW?
9:30:45AM IF WE HAD DONE IT BACK THEN, GUESS WHAT, WE'D HAVE THE MONEY
9:30:48AM TO PAY FOR IT.
9:30:50AM BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT ANYMORE BECAUSE
9:30:54AM THE MONEY DOESN'T PAY FOR AS MUCH.
9:30:56AM SO WHY NOT BUILD WHAT YOU CAN?
9:30:58AM I THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING, THAT THE OTHER RIVERWALK WAS
9:31:02AM BUILT IN LITTLE PIECES.
9:31:04AM ONE LITTLE PIECE AT A TIME.
9:31:05AM I BET YOU MONEY, BECAUSE I JUST GOT THIS FLYER, I BET YOU
9:31:09AM MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T GO INTO A BOAT LOAD OF DEBT TO DO IT.
9:31:15AM I WANT TO REMIND YOU, NOW, THIS IS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
9:31:21AM THIS IS FOR THE CHAA.
9:31:25AM I WOULD ALSO ASK, ALL THIS STUFF WAS BUILT BEFORE THIS
9:31:29AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TALKED ABOUT THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
9:31:31AM BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING I THINK IT'S 2005-2006.
9:31:35AM SO WE WEREN'T IN VIOLATION OF THAT WHEN THEY BUILT THE OTHER
9:31:38AM SIDE.
9:31:38AM THIS IS THE RULES FOR OUR CITY.
9:31:40AM IT SAYS WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SPENDING MONEY ON ANYTHING
9:31:44AM BUT HARDENING INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
9:31:48AM WHEN IT'S PUBLIC FUNDS.
9:31:51AM I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU, I DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME
9:31:54AM ON THE CRA.
9:31:55AM I REALLY DON'T.
9:31:56AM I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT I DO KNOW THE FIRST TIME I
9:31:59AM HEARD CRA, HEARD SOMEBODY TALK ABOUT IT, STARTED LEARNING
9:32:02AM ABOUT IT, THAT WE HAD REHABS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE.
9:32:07AM HERE WE ARE FOUR, FIVE YEARS LATER AND STILL NOT DONE.
9:32:10AM BY GOD, THIS RIVERWALK CAME UP IN JULY IN FRONT OF CITY
9:32:14AM COUNCIL AND IT'S ALREADY RAILROADED ONTO YOUR AGENDA TODAY,
9:32:18AM NOT SIX MONTHS LATER.
9:32:20AM HMMM, GO FIGURE.
9:32:22AM IT'S AMAZING WHAT PEOPLE WANT BECOME A JAPANESE BULLET
9:32:29AM TRAIN.
9:32:29AM YOU FIGURE OUT WHO IT IS.
9:32:31AM IS IT THIS BOARD?
9:32:32AM IS IT THE MAYOR?
9:32:33AM I DON'T KNOW.
9:32:34AM WHO BENEFITS THE MOST FROM THIS?
9:32:35AM IS IT CURING SLUM AND BLIGHT?
9:32:38AM NOPE, IT'S NOT.
9:32:40AM IT IS NOT CURING SLUM AND BLIGHT.
9:32:43AM SO HOW CAN YOU APPROVE IT?
9:32:44AM STATE STATUTE ALSO SAYS THAT IF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GOING
9:32:48AM TO DO THIS ANYWAY -- THIS IS CHAPTER 163-370-3B, IT SAYS
9:32:56AM THAT THE CITY WILL DO IT ANYWAY, YOU CAN'T SPEND CRA FUNDS
9:32:59AM ON IT.
9:33:00AM GUESS WHAT, MR. BHIDE STOOD HERE LAST WEEK AND SAID THEY
9:33:03AM ALREADY STARTED SPENDING MONEY ON IT.
9:33:06AM THAT MEANS THE CITY WILL DO IT ANYWAY.
9:33:08AM SO YOU CAN'T SPEND CRA FUNDS ON IT.
9:33:10AM DON'T VIOLATE THE RULES.
9:33:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:33:12AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:33:13AM IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE STAND OR THIS WILL BE OUR
9:33:16AM FINAL SPEAKER BESIDES MR. RANDOLPH ONLINE.
9:33:19AM >> THANK YOU.
9:33:20AM GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD MEMBERS.
9:33:22AM JEANETTE LARUSSA FENTON, 3102 B WEST LEROY STREET.
9:33:28AM I'M HIRE THIS MORNING PROUDLY REPRESENTING THE WEST TAMPA
9:33:31AM CHAMBER.
9:33:32AM I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA COMMUNITY ADVISORY
9:33:34AM COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT, AND I AM A
9:33:38AM PROUD FOURTH GENERATION WEST TAMPA NATIVE.
9:33:41AM I'M EXTREMELY HAPPY TO BE STANDING HERE TODAY AS A WEST
9:33:44AM TAMPA RESIDENT ONCE AGAIN AFTER BEING GONE FOR QUITE A LONG
9:33:48AM TIME.
9:33:49AM I'M THRILLED TO BE BACK HOME AGAIN.
9:33:51AM THE WEST RIVERWALK MULTIMODAL NETWORK PROJECT IS A
9:33:56AM GENERATIONAL, ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME GAME-CHANGER OPPORTUNITY
9:33:59AM THAT WILL HELP TRANSFORM WEST TAMPA.
9:34:02AM THE PROJECT WILL VASTLY IMPROVE MOBILITY, SAFETY,
9:34:05AM NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIVITY, RECREATION AND ECONOMIC
9:34:08AM DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE MAIN STREET AREA, WHICH IS
9:34:11AM SUCH A STRONG FOCUS FOR WEST TAMPA.
9:34:13AM THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WILL NOT ONLY BENEFIT WEST TAMPA, THEY
9:34:16AM ARE GOING TO FLOW TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
9:34:22AM IN THE COMING YEARS, THOUSANDS OF NEW RESIDENTS AND
9:34:25AM BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE LIVING AND WORKING ADJACENT TO
9:34:29AM THE WEST RIVERWALK.
9:34:31AM WE HEARD A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE WONDERFUL COUPLE THAT IS
9:34:34AM MAKING THIS INVESTMENT.
9:34:35AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT.
9:34:37AM THAT'S WHAT THE WEST RIVERWALK WILL HELP TO DO.
9:34:40AM DENSE URBAN AREAS NEED PUBLIC SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TO THRIVE,
9:34:46AM TO PROMOTE WELL-BEING, AND TO PROVIDE MOBILITY OPTIONS AND
9:34:50AM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
9:34:51AM BEFORE I CLOSE, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE
9:34:58AM WITH OTHERS THAT HAVE CALLED THIS A VANITY PROJECT.
9:35:00AM THESE THINGS ARE NOT VANITIES.
9:35:04AM SAFETY, PUBLIC HEALTH, RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, THE
9:35:07AM ABILITY TO GET FROM ONE POINT TO THE OTHER, TO PURSUE YOUR
9:35:11AM EDUCATION, YOUR WORK OPPORTUNITIES AND SO FORTH, AND JUST TO
9:35:15AM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THE OUTDOORS IN A DENSE URBAN
9:35:19AM AREA.
9:35:20AM THIS IS NOT A VANITY PROJECT.
9:35:21AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A CRITICAL NEED TO EVERYONE.
9:35:23AM SO PLEASE DO NOT EVER THINK OF THIS THAT WAY.
9:35:27AM I ALSO MUST SAY THAT THE CRA IS SPENDING CONSIDERABLE
9:35:31AM AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WILL CONTINUE TO
9:35:35AM DO SO.
9:35:36AM IN FACT, WE MUST MADE ACQUISITION OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY
9:35:39AM THAT WILL PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO
9:35:42AM DO SO AND A LOT OF OTHER GREAT THINGS.
9:35:45AM IT'S NOT AN EITHER-OR.
9:35:47AM IT IS AN AND AND AND.
9:35:52AM SO PLEASE DO NOT LET THOSE THINGS DISCOURAGE YOU.
9:35:53AM IN CLOSING, THE WEST TAMPA CHAMBER STRONGLY SUPPORTS THIS
9:35:56AM PROJECT, AND WE ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THE FUNDING.
9:35:58AM IT IS A WISE INVESTMENT THAT WILL PAGE HUGE DIVIDENDS FOR
9:36:03AM DECADES TO COME.
9:36:04AM THANK YOU.
9:36:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:36:05AM THERE IS SOME CHATTER IN THE AUDIENCE.
9:36:08AM WE CAN HEAR IT UP HERE.
9:36:09AM PLEASE RESPECT ALL SPEAKERS COMING BEFORE THE DAIS.
9:36:11AM GOOD MORNING, MR. WILLIAMS.
9:36:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.
9:36:18AM PASTOR WILLIAMS, 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
9:36:23AM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
9:36:25AM I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 32 YEARS.
9:36:28AM ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY WANT ME TO GET OUT OF THERE.
9:36:32AM WHAT YOU ALL CALL WHITE FOLKS, WHITE MAN OVER THERE PRETEND
9:36:38AM HE WANT TO BUY THE CHURCH.
9:36:40AM THE CHURCH IS MINE, BUT NOBODY WANT TO DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
9:36:44AM BASICALLY, I DIDN'T COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY CHURCH.
9:36:47AM I COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE RETENTION PONDS YOU GOT IN
9:36:51AM BELMONT HEIGHTS AND JACKSON HEIGHTS.
9:36:53AM WHY DON'T YOU ALL FILL THOSE THINGS IN AND LET PEOPLE HAVE
9:36:57AM HOMES THERE LIKE WE SUPPOSED TO.
9:37:00AM BEEN LIVING THERE ALL THE TIME BUT NOW YOU WANT TO RUN US
9:37:03AM OUT.
9:37:04AM CALL RETENTION POND, WHAT IS A RETENTION POND?
9:37:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PASTOR WILLIAMS, STOP USING PROFANITY IN
9:37:10AM FRONT OF THE DAIS.
9:37:12AM >> JUST TELL ME, WHAT IS A RETENTION POND?
9:37:14AM TELL THEM THAT.
9:37:17AM ANSWER MY QUESTION.
9:37:18AM RETENTION POND I TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
9:37:26AM RESERVE OF SNAKES, POSSUMS AND COONS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
9:37:32AM IT'S SO SAD THE WAY YOU ALL TREAT CERTAIN PEOPLE LIKE ME,
9:37:38AM MYSELF, AND I.
9:37:41AM THE WAY YOU ALL TREAT US NOWADAYS, IT'S GETTING WORSE AND
9:37:44AM WORSE.
9:37:45AM BUILDING UP NICE HOMES BUT DON'T WANT BLACK FOAMS TO MOVE IN
9:37:51AM THEM.
9:37:52AM ONLY WHITE FOLKS MOVE IN THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT
9:37:55AM HAVE THE MONEY TO MOVE IN.
9:37:56AM YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE NO MONEY TO PAY $2,000 A MONTH RENT.
9:38:01AM DON'T EVEN PAY $1,000 A MONTH.
9:38:05AM WE DON'T MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY.
9:38:06AM YOU ALL KNOW THAT.
9:38:09AM KEEP US DOWN SO WALK ON US EVERYWHERE WE GO.
9:38:17AM YOU ALL HAVE TO REALIZE YOURSELF, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
9:38:21AM HUMAN TOO, AND NOT JUST LOOK AT US AND TREAT US BAD.
9:38:26AM LOOK AT YOURSELF AND TREAT YOURSELF BAD.
9:38:29AM YOUNG LADY COME TO ME AND TOLD ME, PASTOR WILLIAMS, CERTAIN
9:38:35AM WORDS, I DON'T WANT YOU TO USE, BUT THEY GOT TO UNDERSTAND,
9:38:43AM GOT THE ENCYCLOPEDIA AND IT TELL US ALL ABOUT US.
9:38:46AM AND WE'RE NOT THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE.
9:38:49AM WE GOD PEOPLE THAT RESPECT YOU AND RESPECT GOD ALMIGHTY.
9:38:53AM AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO GIVE FROM YOU ALL.
9:38:56AM YOU ALL DON'T CARE ABOUT US, BUT WE CARE ABOUT OURSELVES AND
9:39:02AM OUR CHILDREN AND OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.
9:39:04AM YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE I TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER, WE ARE
9:39:08AM STILL HUMAN BEINGS, AND THAT'S ALL YOU ARE, NOTHING BUT A
9:39:11AM HUMAN BEING.
9:39:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:39:15AM OUR FINAL SPEAKER WILL BE MR. RANDOLPH ONLINE.
9:39:17AM IS HE PRESENT?
9:39:18AM MR. WILLIAMS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
9:39:26AM DARLENE, SEE IF MR. WILLIAMS NEEDS ANYTHING ELSE FROM OUR
9:39:29AM OFFICE.
9:39:29AM MR. RANDOLPH, ARE YOU THERE?
9:39:48AM YOU ARE SELF-MUTED, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:39:59AM >> HELLO?
9:40:00AM [ECHOING]
9:40:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. RANDOLPH, DO YOU HAVE TWO PIECES OF
9:40:06AM EQUIPMENT ON THAT'S INTERRUPTING YOUR VOLUME?
9:40:12AM >> YEAH.
9:40:15AM [AUDIO ECHOING]
9:40:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT YOU CAN DO IS CUT OFF SOMETHING SO
9:40:32AM THAT YOU CAN SPEAK.
9:40:35AM WHATEVER EQUIPMENT YOU ARE USING TO SPEAK, JUST GO AHEAD AND
9:40:39AM UNDO THAT.
9:40:41AM >> OKAY.
9:40:41AM GIVE ME A SECOND.
9:40:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I CAN TELL HE IS CONNECTED ON TWO DEVICES.
9:40:48AM YOU NEED TO CHOOSE ONE OF THE DEVICES SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.
9:40:56AM >> OKAY.
9:40:56AM I'LL WRITE IN MY CONCERNS.
9:41:02AM WE DO SUPPORT THE WEST TAMPA RIVERWALK EXTENSION.
9:41:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. RANDOLPH, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU
9:41:12AM WITH TWO DEVICES ON.
9:41:13AM IF YOU WANT TO SEND YOUR DOCUMENTATION TO TAMPA CITY
9:41:15AM COUNCIL, I KNOW YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, TAMPA CRA BOARD,
9:41:20AM YOU CAN SHARE YOUR INFORMATION WITH US.
9:41:21AM WE DID HEAR THAT YOU VERBALLY SUPPORT THE WEST TAMPA
9:41:25AM RIVERWALK.
9:41:26AM >> THANK YOU.
9:41:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HAVE A GREAT DAY.
9:41:28AM THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:41:30AM WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:41:32AM YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
9:41:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:41:38AM JUST TO REMIND THE CRA BOARD, I THINK WE SENT A MEMO ON IT,
9:41:41AM I HAVE TO STEP OUT 45 MINUTES 10:35.
9:41:47AM MY APOLOGIES.
9:41:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:41:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:41:51AM THAT DOES REMIND ME, FOR THAT VOTE, ITEM NUMBER 6, IF WE
9:41:54AM COULD PULL IT FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
9:41:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION TO PULL ITEM 6.
9:42:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL ALSO MAKE A MOTION FOR 10.
9:42:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:42:05AM 6 AND 10.
9:42:06AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
9:42:07AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:42:08AM >> AYE.
9:42:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:42:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:42:21AM COURTNEY ORR, CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
9:42:23AM I HAVE THE HONOR OF INTRODUCING MR. MICHAEL MUSETTA.
9:42:28AM HE HAS SERVED ON TAMPA HEIGHTS CAC AS CHAIRPERSON.
9:42:35AM HE IS HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE ACTIVITIES HAPPENING
9:42:37AM AT TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT CRA.
9:42:42AM >>MICHAEL MUSETTA: GOOD MORNING.
9:42:43AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL MUSETTA.
9:42:45AM I HAVE SERVED ON THE CRA BOARD FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND THIS IS
9:42:52AM MY LAST OFFICIAL ASSIGNMENT.
9:42:57AM WE ARE CONCENTRATING ON THE CONNECTIVITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE
9:43:03AM FOR THE AREA AROUND ARMATURE WORKS TO REPLACE AND ENHANCE
9:43:08AM THE WAY-FINDING SIGNAGE AND ALSO TO INCLUDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
9:43:12AM BRANDING.
9:43:14AM WE EXPECT THIS PROJECT TO BE STARTED THIS SUMMER.
9:43:18AM WE HAVE HAD THE PRESENTATIONS AND WE HAVE SELECTED THE
9:43:21AM DIFFERENT WAY-FINDING SIGNS.
9:43:23AM SECONDLY, FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PROFESSOR GREEN FROM
9:43:31AM THE USF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US, AND HE SHOULD BE
9:43:36AM PRESENTING HIS REPORT NEXT MONTH.
9:43:44AM ONE ISSUE THAT WE'VE BEEN CONCENTRATING ON IS THE QUALITY OF
9:43:48AM LIFE, AND WE ARE WANTING OUR DESIGN IN THE ROUNDABOUT ON
9:43:55AM PALM AND HIGHLAND, I BELIEVE IT IS.
9:43:58AM AND THEN ALSO A PORTION THAT IS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT AT
9:44:04AM BOULEVARD AND PALM.
9:44:09AM COREY ROBINSON WITH THE CITY DID A SURVEY AND HAD 80
9:44:13AM RESPONSES.
9:44:15AM SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD RESPONSE.
9:44:19AM LASTLY, WE HAVE MYSELF AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT
9:44:25AM HAVE RETIRED FROM OUR GROUP AND THERE ARE SEVERAL
9:44:31AM APPLICATIONS FOR THEM, I BELIEVE, PLUS TWO AT-LARGE MEMBERS
9:44:37AM FOR THE SEATS.
9:44:39AM AND THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATIONS.
9:44:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:44:43AM IT'S BEEN ENJOYABLE SERVING ON IT, AFTER EIGHT YEARS, IT'S
9:44:48AM TIME TO MOVE ON AND CONTINUE MY RETIREMENT.
9:44:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, MR. MUSETTA.
9:44:53AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:44:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. McCRAY.
9:45:02AM HE MENTIONED WAY-FINDING SIGNS AND ROUNDABOUT ART.
9:45:08AM I JUST REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS THE DOWNTOWN, THEY CAME TO US.
9:45:11AM WE HAD A HUGE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
9:45:14AM SO I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE THE TAMPA HEIGHTS A CONTINUATION
9:45:20AM OF WHAT WE HAVE CHOSEN FOR DOWNTOWN?
9:45:22AM IS IT SEPARATE?
9:45:23AM WHY IS IT NOT COMING BACK TO US?
9:45:25AM IS IT COMING BACK TO US?
9:45:27AM IT SEEMS LIKE -- I DON'T CARE WHICH IS THE RULE, BUT IF
9:45:31AM WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE THING FOR ONE CRA, IT SHOULD BE THE
9:45:34AM SAME FOR ANOTHER CRA.
9:45:35AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, IT IS A CONTINUATION, AND THEN WE WILL
9:45:37AM HAVE A SECOND PHASE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE OTHER CRA
9:45:40AM DISTRICTS FOR THE WAY-FINDING.
9:45:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:45:43AM GREAT.
9:45:43AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW.
9:45:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALREADY DEALT WITH.
9:45:47AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES.
9:45:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:45:48AM I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:45:50AM THANK YOU TO MR. MUSETTA FOR COMING AND SHARING WHAT'S GOING
9:45:53AM ON IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:45:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA FOLLOWED BY THE
9:45:55AM DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
9:45:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MADAM.
9:45:58AM APPRECIATE THAT.
9:45:58AM I WANTED TO SALUTE MR. MUSETTA.
9:46:01AM ANYBODY BEEN AN ATTORNEY, WORKED IN LITIGATION, KNOWS THAT
9:46:04AM HE RAN A COURT REPORTING SERVICE.
9:46:07AM I PROBABLY -- WE USED YOU ALL FOR 10, 15 YEARS, HOWEVER
9:46:11AM LONG.
9:46:12AM I REMEMBER I WOULD SEE HIM IN THE OFFICE AND WE WOULD TALK
9:46:15AM POLITICS.
9:46:15AM IT'S KIND OF FUNNY.
9:46:16AM JUST THANK YOU, MICHAEL, FOR YOUR EIGHT YEARS OF SERVICE ON
9:46:20AM THE BOARD.
9:46:21AM IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, SIR.
9:46:24AM I ALWAYS SEE YOU MAYBE EQUALLY FORMALLY CIRCUMSTANCES I
9:46:27AM GUESS IF YOU WILL.
9:46:28AM YOU'RE ALWAYS A NICE GUY.
9:46:30AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:46:31AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:46:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. McCRAY.
9:46:38AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
9:46:40AM CEDRIC McCRAY, CRA INTERIM DIRECTOR.
9:46:42AM I BELIEVE YOU ALL RECEIVED THE PROGRAM OR PROJECTS UPDATE IN
9:46:48AM THE PACKET.
9:46:49AM ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE EAST TAMPA
9:46:52AM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN UPDATE.
9:46:54AM THERE WILL BE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING TAKING PLACE ON
9:46:57AM JANUARY 22nd AT 6:30.
9:46:59AM THE LOCATION IS ANDREWS LIBRARY.
9:47:03AM WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ANNOUNCE THAT.
9:47:05AM AND THE CAC DID RECEIVE THE INFORMATION AT THE MEETING LAST
9:47:09AM TUESDAY ON JANUARY 7 AND SURVEYS ARE OUT.
9:47:13AM WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY SO THAT WE
9:47:16AM CAN GET ENOUGH FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WE BUILD OUT
9:47:20AM THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
9:47:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE EAST TAMPA
9:47:29AM CRA IN TERMS OF JUST THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS MADE TODAY
9:47:32AM JUST SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT ON RECORD REGARDING THE AREA
9:47:37AM WHERE THE GATOR BUILDING IS, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF OUR
9:47:39AM PROJECTS.
9:47:39AM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE ALSO STILL TRYING TO
9:47:43AM PURCHASE PROPERTY TO ROUND OUT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
9:47:46AM CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT PUBLICLY RIGHT NOW?
9:47:48AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, WE ARE LOOKING TO ASSEMBLE OTHER
9:47:50AM PROPERTIES IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.
9:47:53AM I PAUSE TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
9:47:56AM WATCHING AND LISTENING AND THAT'S WHEN THE PRICE MAY GO UP.
9:47:59AM YES, WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
9:48:02AM IRONICALLY, WE JUST HELD A MEETING THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY
9:48:06AM TO TALK ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SITE AND SOME
9:48:09AM THINGS THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING TO THE EAST TAMPA CAC IN THE
9:48:12AM NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
9:48:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:48:14AM THE 22nd STREET CORRIDOR IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
9:48:17AM IT IS A PRIORITY AND BUSINESS CONTINUES.
9:48:19AM SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
9:48:20AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:48:21AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, MA'AM.
9:48:21AM THANK YOU.
9:48:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS THE END OF YOUR DIRECTOR'S REPORT?
9:48:29AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES.
9:48:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ITEM NUMBER 3 IS DISCUSSING THE CRA
9:48:34AM DIRECTOR POSITION.
9:48:35AM BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED ALL THE APPLICATIONS AND
9:48:39AM ADDITIONAL APPLICATION THAT CAME IN LAST NIGHT OF OUR
9:48:41AM QUALIFIED APPLICANT.
9:48:45AM ANY PUBLIC COMMENT YOU WANT TO MAKE ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO
9:48:48AM PROCEED WITH THAT IN TERMS OF INTERVIEWS?
9:48:49AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:48:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
9:48:53AM I WENT THROUGH -- I LOOKED AT THE LIST AND THEN FOR ME I
9:49:01AM LOOKED AT THE FOLKS WHO HAD MET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS
9:49:04AM BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO START.
9:49:07AM WE HAD FIVE PEOPLE WHO MET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS.
9:49:12AM PERSONALLY, I THINK FOUR OF THOSE FOLKS SHOULD GO FORWARD TO
9:49:16AM BE INTERVIEWED.
9:49:17AM BUT I DIDN'T KNOW HOW OTHERS FELT.
9:49:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE TWO AGREEMENTS ON THAT.
9:49:24AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THAT?
9:49:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHICH FOUR?
9:49:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND STATE THEM PUBLICLY.
9:49:33AM THE FIFTH PERSON THAT CAME IN YESTERDAY?
9:49:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WENT THROUGH YESTERDAY'S LIST.
9:49:42AM SO, YES.
9:49:44AM I DON'T KNOW IF -- I'M ASSUMING THERE WAS AN ADDITION.
9:49:47AM WHAT I DID, I LOOKED AT THE LIST THAT CAME YESTERDAY.
9:49:50AM I READ THROUGH IT.
9:49:51AM FIVE MINIMALLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE.
9:49:53AM FOR ME PERSONALLY, THERE WAS ONE PERSON THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY
9:49:56AM HIGH-LEVEL MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE AND I WAS NOT OKAY WITH
9:49:59AM THAT.
9:49:59AM FOR ME, THE OTHER FOUR WERE THE ONES THAT I WAS MOST
9:50:03AM INTERESTED IN INTERVIEWING.
9:50:06AM AGAIN, I WILL LISTEN TO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY.
9:50:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:50:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S ME.
9:50:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
9:50:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KIND OF CONCUR WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT AS I
9:50:18AM GAVE YOU THAT INDICATION.
9:50:19AM BUT POSSIBLY JUST AS AN INTERVIEWING BODY, IF THE FOLKS --
9:50:24AM AND ONLY ONE, IF THE FOLKS MET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS, I
9:50:27AM THINK IT WOULD BE PROBABLY BE PROPER FOR US TO INTERVIEW ALL
9:50:29AM FIVE, AT LEAST TO GIVE FOLKS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE
9:50:32AM DISCLOSE SOMETHING THAT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF.
9:50:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S FAIR.
9:50:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S NOT OVERLY BURDENSOME.
9:50:39AM FIVE IS A REASONABLE NUMBER.
9:50:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ACCEPT THAT.
9:50:43AM OKAY.
9:50:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST WAS CURIOUS IF THIS INCLUDED THE
9:50:49AM ONE THAT CAME IN FROM MR. SWEENEY ON TUESDAY AT 4:00.
9:50:54AM I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU RECEIVED THAT ADDITIONAL PERSON.
9:50:58AM THIS PERSON HERE.
9:51:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:51:01AM NO HIGH-LEVEL MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE.
9:51:10AM YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THE
9:51:15AM FIVE NOW.
9:51:16AM DO WE WANT TO USE --
9:51:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET'S GET SOME MORE DISCUSSION HERE.
9:51:23AM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
9:51:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:51:25AM LAST TIME WHAT WE DID WAS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER THERE WAS
9:51:29AM LIKE A CASUAL MEET AND GREET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE
9:51:33AM PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES, WHICH WAS VERY NICE.
9:51:36AM WHAT WE WENT AHEAD AND DID WAS WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING
9:51:40AM WHERE ESSENTIALLY THEY GAVE A PRESENTATION BEFORE THE CRA
9:51:45AM BOARD AND THEN WE VOTED THERE.
9:51:48AM THAT WAS ALL DONE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
9:51:50AM THIS IS DURING THE COVID AREA.
9:51:52AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE OUT HERE OR WE CAN DO IT
9:51:54AM HERE.
9:51:55AM JUST TO RECAP WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
9:51:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE LEFT?
9:52:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE.
9:52:06AM JUST BRIEFLY, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO THAT I
9:52:08AM THINK COMMUNITY INPUT IS OBVIOUSLY VERY GOOD.
9:52:11AM AND HAVING IT AS PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE WITH THE ENGAGEMENT, I
9:52:14AM AGREE WITH THAT.
9:52:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:52:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH THAT IN THEORY.
9:52:19AM UNFORTUNATELY, NOT ALL THESE FOLKS ARE LOCAL.
9:52:21AM SO I THINK -- AND FOR ME, FIVE IS A LOT TO CHOOSE FROM.
9:52:25AM I WOULD PREFER TO DO A FIRST ROUND OF INTERVIEWS AND THEN
9:52:28AM BRING PEOPLE WHO PASS THAT VIRTUAL INTERVIEW THEN IN PERSON
9:52:33AM TO GO THROUGH, WHICH IS A PRETTY LARGE JUGGERNAUT TO GO
9:52:38AM THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PORTION OF IT AND WE SHOULD BE SURE IN
9:52:42AM WHAT WE WANT.
9:52:43AM I DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANYONE'S TIME AND I HATE TO COUCH IT
9:52:47AM AS THAT, BUT I WANT TO USE OUR TIME WISELY.
9:52:49AM I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD DO A FIRST ROUND OF INTERVIEWS WITH
9:52:53AM FIVE AND THEN IF WE DO NARROW IT DOWN, THAT WILL MAKE IT
9:52:58AM EASIER FOR EVERYONE.
9:53:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:53:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: I REMEMBER THE SESSIONS AT THE CONVENTION
9:53:06AM CENTER, BUT THEN THE LAST TIME, IF I RECALL THE CORRECT
9:53:10AM POSITION, THEY SCHEDULED A TIME FOR EACH CANDIDATE HERE, AND
9:53:14AM WE WENT THROUGH AND INDIVIDUALLY MET WITH THEM.
9:53:16AM MAYBE WE COULD NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO OR THREE THAT WOULD
9:53:20AM COME BEFORE US.
9:53:22AM FOR FIVE, I THINK IT SHOULD BE VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON.
9:53:26AM IF IT'S IN PERSON, I THINK THE PUBLIC COULD COME IN.
9:53:32AM THE IDEA IS THEY COULD GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND ASK
9:53:34AM QUESTIONS AND WHEN WE BRING THE FINALISTS, WE CAN ASK EACH
9:53:38AM OTHER QUESTIONS AND HEAR THE ANSWERS.
9:53:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:53:40AM ALL RIGHT.
9:53:43AM IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS ALL THE COMMENT.
9:53:44AM I LIKE THE NARROWING DOWN PROCESS AND THEN BRINGING THE
9:53:47AM FINAL CANDIDATES TO THE PUBLIC AT A REGULAR SCHEDULED BOARD
9:53:50AM MEETING INSTEAD OF GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
9:53:52AM I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT FOR US TO DO IT HERE AT
9:53:55AM OUR REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE OUR MEETINGS DON'T LAST A LONG
9:53:59AM TIME FOR CRA, SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT IN BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT
9:54:04AM MONTH, GET US A DATE THAT WE CAN AGREE ON.
9:54:08AM YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW?
9:54:10AM GET US A DATE TO HAVE A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH THEM, TIME
9:54:16AM SCHEDULED, TIME CERTAIN, AND THEN -- BECAUSE TALKING TO FIVE
9:54:20AM OF THEM, GIVE A PERSON 15 MINUTES OR LESS, AN HOUR OF OUR
9:54:26AM TIME, HOUR AND A HALF OF OUR TIME, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A
9:54:29AM SCORING SYSTEM TO NARROW THEM DOWN AND BRING THOSE BACK FOR
9:54:32AM THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY OR MARCH.
9:54:37AM WHAT DO YOU THINK?
9:54:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HONESTLY, I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY END UP
9:54:42AM TAKING UNTIL MARCH.
9:54:43AM UNFORTUNATELY, WE ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH.
9:54:46AM WE CAN SHOOT FOR FEBRUARY.
9:54:49AM TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA.
9:54:52AM I THINK I WOULD ASK PROCESS-WISE, FROM CITY STAFF, SINCE I
9:54:56AM DON'T KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE BEST -- WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION
9:55:01AM OF FOLKS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE?
9:55:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELL, REMEMBER, THE CITY STAFF, WE TOOK
9:55:08AM THIS AWAY FROM THEM, SO THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS NO LONGER ON
9:55:11AM THE TABLE.
9:55:12AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.
9:55:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, THEN, I WILL DEFER TO FOLKS WHO HAVE
9:55:16AM DONE THIS BEFORE.
9:55:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DID OUR BUDGET ANALYST.
9:55:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT.
9:55:24AM PROBABLY SHOULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
9:55:26AM IN DEFERENCE TO THE HR DEPARTMENT, THEY GAVE US A LOT OF
9:55:30AM LEGAL ADVICE AND ADVICE AND COUNSEL ON THE PROCESS HERE.
9:55:32AM I THINK WE SHOULD DEFER TO THE PROCESS THAT WE USE FOR THE
9:55:35AM BUDGET ANALYST.
9:55:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:55:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
9:55:42AM IN FACT, THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS WE USED THE LAST TIME.
9:55:44AM THAT IS THE GENTLEMAN I SPEAK ABOUT THAT I DON'T ALWAYS
9:55:47AM NAME, BUT SMARTEST GUY IN MY LIFE.
9:55:51AM PROCESS WORKED BUT THE INDIVIDUAL DID NOT.
9:56:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S TRUE.
9:56:01AM >> HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A DELIGHT WE WERE.
9:56:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CLENDENIN AND HENDERSON ARE HERE NOW.
9:56:05AM THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
9:56:08AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:56:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHERE ARE WE LEAVING THIS?
9:56:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO WE ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR A DATE AMONG
9:56:18AM OUR AIDES TO COME ONLINE AND INTERVIEW THEM, AND THEN IF WE
9:56:23AM CAN GET THAT DATE, A COUPLE OF OPTIONS ALL OF US CAN AGREE
9:56:26AM ON, GET THAT DATE AND IF WE CAN MAKE THE FEBRUARY AGENDA,
9:56:29AM THEN SO BE IT.
9:56:30AM IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE IT TO MARCH FOR THE PUBLIC, WHICH
9:56:38AM PROBABLY WILL TAKE UNTIL MARCH, LIKE YOU SAID.
9:56:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF
9:56:43AM TIME.
9:56:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE CAN PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO THE
9:56:45AM PUBLIC IN FEBRUARY, IF POSSIBLE, AND GIVE THE PUBLIC THEIR
9:56:49AM OPPORTUNITY TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND LOOK AT RESUM S
9:56:52AM AND THINGS THAT WE POST THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
9:56:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC DISCLOSURE, I
9:56:58AM THINK WE SHOULD LIST THE FIVE NAMES WE'LL NARROW DOWN FOR
9:57:01AM INTERVIEWS.
9:57:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:57:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL NAME THE FIVE CANDIDATES THAT HAVE THE
9:57:15AM MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS.
9:57:18AM I'M GOING TO COMPLETELY BUTCHER THE NAME, AND I COMPLETELY
9:57:23AM APOLOGIZE.
9:57:23AM EKATERINI GERAKIOS-SIREN, JENNIFER MATTHEWS, CEDRIC
9:57:32AM McCRAY, CHRISTOPHER MOORE, AND LISA NICHOLAS.
9:57:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:57:39AM WE APPRECIATE THAT.
9:57:42AM WE ARE MOVING ON FROM THAT ITEM -- OH, WE NEED A MOTION TO
9:57:48AM MAKE THAT FORMAL, BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, SECOND BY BOARD
9:57:52AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:57:53AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:57:54AM ANY OPPOSED.
9:57:55AM THANK YOU.
9:57:55AM MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, HOUSING.
9:58:03AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD MORNING AGAIN, CRA BOARD MEMBERS.
9:58:06AM AS WE SHARED IN RECENT MONTHS, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MORE
9:58:12AM FORMAL DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE CRA AND OUR HOUSING
9:58:17AM DIVISION THAT WAS ESTABLISHED PER YOUR REQUEST.
9:58:21AM AS WE ARE LOOKING AT RECEIVING APPLICATIONS AND THINGS OF
9:58:26AM THAT NATURE THROUGH THE VARIOUS GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE
9:58:29AM RELATED TO HOUSING, WE HAVE NOT HAD A FORMAL CONVERSATION
9:58:34AM AND ARE LOOKING FOR SOME BOARD DIRECTION AS IT RELATES TO
9:58:38AM SUBSIDY AMOUNTS AND BASED ON THE PROGRAMS.
9:58:41AM I THINK WE'VE HAD GOOD DISCUSSIONS DURING OUR BRIEFINGS OVER
9:58:44AM THE RECENT WEEKS, BUT I'M GOING TO CALL MS. BEA PARKS UP NOW
9:58:50AM TO PRESENT AND THEN WE WILL BE STANDING BY WITH ANY
9:58:52AM QUESTIONS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION.
9:58:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, MS. PARKS.
9:58:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD CHAIR.
9:59:00AM CAN I GET THE PRESENTATION LOADED, PLEASE?
9:59:02AM I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY TO DISCUSS
9:59:09AM CRA HOUSING.
9:59:10AM THAT'S EXCITING.
9:59:11AM CAN WE MOVE ON -- ALL RIGHT.
9:59:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU STATED YOUR NAME.
9:59:19AM >> BEA PARKS, CRA DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
9:59:23AM TODAY, THE OVERVIEW IS TO REVIEW THE GOALS -- CRA GOALS AND
9:59:29AM OBJECTIVES, THE HOUSING BUDGET SNAPSHOTS PER CRA AREA.
9:59:33AM THE UNIT SUBSIDY DISCUSSION, THE INFILL PROGRAM THAT'S GOING
9:59:37AM TO BE A GREAT PROGRAM FOR US AND THEN THE TIMELINE AND NEXT
9:59:41AM STEPS.
9:59:41AM SO THE OBJECTIVE TODAY IS TO REVIEW THE 30% OF THE FUNDS
9:59:48AM THAT, OF COURSE, ARE APPROVED TO BE ALLOCATED FOR A CRA
9:59:53AM ACROSS ALL OF THE DISTRICTS.
9:59:54AM SO THESE FUNDS DO RANGE FROM 224,000 TO ABOUT 22 MILLION.
10:00:00AM THE OBJECTIVE OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS TO PRESENT THIS TO
10:00:04AM THE BOARD SO WE NEVER LIKE, DIRECTOR McCRAY STATED, NEVER
10:00:11AM OFFICIALLY WENT OVER THEM.
10:00:12AM SO IT IS TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU GUYS TODAY.
10:00:18AM DISCUSS THE PROGRAMMATIC ASSIGNMENT OF THE FUNDS AND ALSO TO
10:00:21AM GET BOARD APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:00:23AM SO, AS YOU KNOW, YOU SAT THROUGH THE BOARD RETREAT IN 2023
10:00:29AM WHERE YOU DISCUSSED YOUR GOALS.
10:00:32AM SO ONE OF THEM WAS TO CLOSE THE HOME OWNERSHIP GAP FOR 80%.
10:00:37AM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, IN THE
10:00:40AM HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THAT IS A GREAT NEED, 80% AND
10:00:45AM BELOW FOR HOUSING AND COLLABORATING WITH HOUSING PARTNERS,
10:00:49AM OFFERING A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE AND DEVELOPING TARGETED
10:00:54AM PROGRAMS.
10:00:54AM THIS IS ACTUALLY DONE THROUGH THE DPA PROGRAM, DOWN PAYMENT
10:00:58AM ASSISTANCE FOR THE PUBLIC.
10:00:59AM TO RETAIN RESIDENTS BY PROVIDING RESOURCES AND SUPPORT FOR
10:01:05AM HOME REPAIRS, MAINTENANCE AND ACCESSIBILITY OPTIONS THAT
10:01:09AM ENHANCE HOUSING CONDITIONS.
10:01:11AM SO THIS IS CURRENTLY DONE THROUGH THE HOUSING RENOVATION AND
10:01:14AM REHAB PROGRAM.
10:01:15AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOUSING TO
10:01:22AM REDUCE THE WORK AND HOUSING COST BURDENS.
10:01:26AM AS I STATED, OUR FIVE INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
10:01:35AM LEADING, ME AND MY STAFF, WILL BE, OF COURSE, THE REHAB
10:01:39AM PROGRAM.
10:01:40AM SO THE HOUSING REHABILITATION AND RENOVATION PROGRAM.
10:01:49AM AC, ANY PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL ISSUES THAT HOUSEHOLDS MAY
10:01:52AM HAVE, ADA COMPLIANCE, ANYTHING THAT, STRUCTURAL DAMAGE THAT
10:01:59AM IS DONE THROUGH WHAT WE CALL HRRP.
10:02:03AM DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
10:02:05AM NOW, THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS
10:02:07AM RIGHT NOW.
10:02:07AM THIS IS PROVIDING FUNDS FOR FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS TO
10:02:12AM PURCHASE WITHIN THE CRA AREAS.
10:02:15AM RIGHT NOW, SPECIFICALLY THE BULK OF RESIDENTIAL IS IN EAST
10:02:19AM TAMPA, SO THIS HAS BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM
10:02:23AM SPECIFICALLY IN EAST TAMPA.
10:02:25AM AND THEN AGAIN, THE INFILL PROGRAM, SO THIS IS, OF COURSE,
10:02:29AM WITH CRA-OWNED LOTS THAT THROUGH AN RFP WE CONVEY OVER FOR
10:02:34AM THE CREATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
10:02:37AM AND THEN THE FOURTH ONE IS THE VERY IMPORTANT ONE, WHICH IS
10:02:42AM THE UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION.
10:02:45AM SO THAT IS ACTUALLY TO CREATE NEW AFFORDABLE UNITS THROUGH
10:02:50AM DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES OR TO CONVERT OLDER UNITS TO AFFORDABLE
10:02:54AM HOUSING AND THEN, OF COURSE, STRATEGIC ACQUISITION, WHICH
10:02:58AM YOU GUYS FULLY SUPPORT OF US LOOKING AT WHAT MAY BE
10:03:02AM AVAILABLE OUT THERE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND INQUIRING --
10:03:05AM AND ACQUIRING THAT LAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:03:07AM I THANK YOU GUYS FOR SUPPORTING THAT.
10:03:08AM SO HERE WE GO FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
10:03:14AM WE'LL START OFF WITH THAT.
10:03:15AM SO OUR 30% ALLOCATION RIGHT NOW IS 9 MILLION, AROUND
10:03:21AM $9,700,000.
10:03:22AM SO THE BULK OF THAT RIGHT NOW IS IN REHAB.
10:03:26AM SO THE BULK OF THE APPLICATIONS CAME FROM EAST TAMPA.
10:03:30AM MY STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GO THROUGH THOSE
10:03:34AM APPLICATIONS, CONTACT THOSE CLIENTS AND GET THAT PROCESS
10:03:38AM STARTED, WHICH IS WORKING NOW.
10:03:39AM THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT PER UNIT IS $100,000.
10:03:44AM SO RIGHT NOW YOU SEE ROUGHLY AROUND OVER $3 MILLION IN THAT
10:03:48AM POT.
10:03:48AM WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE WITH THE MAXIMUM 50K PER UNIT,
10:03:54AM YOU SEE THAT WE ALLOTTED ABOUT 1.7 MILLION TO CONTINUE TO
10:04:01AM PROVIDE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
10:04:02AM AND THIS IS IN PARTNERSHIP ALSO WITH HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
10:04:06AM DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY WORKING.
10:04:10AM NOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE INFILL HOUSING, WHICH, AGAIN, THE
10:04:15AM SUBSIDY CAN VARY.
10:04:17AM THIS IS MORE MADE FOR -- TO PROVIDE ANY LOT READINESS.
10:04:23AM SO THAT 500,000 COVERS THAT LOT READINESS FOR ONCE WE CONVEY
10:04:29AM IT OVER TO THAT DEVELOPER THROUGH, OF COURSE, THE RFP, THEY
10:04:32AM CAN GO AHEAD AND USE ANY FUNDS FOR ANY STRUCTURE THAT THEY
10:04:35AM MAY NEED FOR THAT LOT, IF IT'S NOT READY TO BE BUILT.
10:04:38AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, I PUT FUNDING INTO THE UNIT INCOME
10:04:43AM CONVERSION, AGAIN, TO BE DETERMINED OF ABOUT $1.5 MILLION
10:04:49AM AND THEN ALSO SOME MONIES IN THE POT FOR STRATEGIC
10:04:53AM ACQUISITION BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THERE'S STILL SOME LAND TO
10:04:56AM BE PURCHASED.
10:04:57AM SO THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
10:04:59AM AGAIN, TOTALING OVER THAT $9 MILLION.
10:05:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND.
10:05:04AM I CAN TELL, DIRECTOR McCRAY, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING
10:05:07AM IN BETWEEN?
10:05:14AM >> I'M SORRY.
10:05:27AM LET ME BRING UP THIS SLIDE BECAUSE I'M HAVING TROUBLE SEEING
10:05:30AM THAT UP THERE.
10:05:35AM >> THE CLOSED CAPTIONING IS -- I'M SORRY.
10:05:39AM ABBYE FEELEY.
10:05:40AM THE CLOSED CAPTIONING IS COMING UP OVER THE SLIDES.
10:05:43AM SO THE PUBLIC ISN'T GETTING TO SEE THE SLIDE.
10:05:47AM SO IF WE, ONCE YOU ARE DONE, IF WE CAN PAUSE FOR LIKE TEN
10:05:52AM SECONDS.
10:05:52AM BECAUSE ON OUR SIDE, IT DOESN'T.
10:05:54AM IT KEEPS RUNNING AS SHE'S TALKING.
10:05:57AM I JUST ASK THEM IF THEY COULD POSSIBLY MOVE IT UP AND THEY
10:06:01AM SAID NO.
10:06:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY GOT IT DONE.
10:06:06AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WANT TO BE SURE EVERYBODY CAN SEE THE
10:06:08AM NUMBERS AND WHAT'S GOING WITH EACH OF THE PROGRAMS.
10:06:11AM THANK YOU.
10:06:14AM >> THAT IS EAST TAMPA.
10:06:17AM I WOULD ASK THE BOARD, DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS AFTER EACH
10:06:20AM SNAPSHOT OR JUST AT THE END?
10:06:22AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD?
10:06:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE COULD DO IT AT THE END.
10:06:27AM FOR EFFICIENCY.
10:06:29AM >> LET'S MOVE ON TO THE WEST TAMPA SIDE.
10:06:32AM THE 30% ALLOCATION TOTAL IS ROUGHLY OVER $6 MILLION, AS YOU
10:06:37AM CAN SEE HERE.
10:06:38AM HERE IS THE OTHER PROGRAM INITIATIVES ALLOTTED FOR THAT
10:06:43AM AREA.
10:06:43AM SO, AGAIN, FOR THE REHAB PROGRAM, WE EARMARKED ABOUT OVER
10:06:49AM $1.2 MILLION, ALONG WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AT AGAIN
10:06:54AM 1.2 AND THEN AGAIN INFILL HOUSING, AS I MENTIONED, AT --
10:07:01AM EARMARKED SOME MONEY IN THAT BUDGET TO ASSIST WITH LOT
10:07:04AM READINESS.
10:07:05AM THAT'S COMING AT 400,000.
10:07:07AM AND THEN AGAIN THE UNIT CREATION CONVERSION ABOUT 2.4
10:07:13AM MILLION AND ACQUISITIONS AT ABOUT 800,000.
10:07:15AM AND RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY FOUR LOTS THAT CAN BE
10:07:19AM USED FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE SEEKING MORE LOTS TO
10:07:23AM ADD TO THE PORTFOLIO.
10:07:25AM MOVING FORWARD TO DREW PARK, THE 30% ALLOCATION FOR DREW
10:07:31AM PARK IS THAT $3.2 MILLION, ROUGHLY OVER THAT.
10:07:37AM REHAB, AGAIN, WE PUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE POT FOR THAT
10:07:43AM DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AT ABOUT ROUGHLY HALF A MILLION.
10:07:46AM INFILL HOUSING, AGAIN, HUNDRED THOUSAND THERE.
10:07:49AM IN ACQUISITIONS AT 1.6 MILLION.
10:07:53AM WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY SIX LOTS AVAILABLE ALSO FOR INFILL FOR
10:07:59AM THAT AREA.
10:08:00AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED, WHEN I STARTED, FUNDS
10:08:03AM TO ASSIST WITH THE LOT READINESS.
10:08:06AM BUDGETED THAT IN THERE.
10:08:07AM LET'S MOVE OVER TO CENTRAL PARK.
10:08:10AM THEIR ALLOCATION IS AT HALF A MILLION.
10:08:14AM SO 597,000.
10:08:17AM THE REHAB PROGRAM IS AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
10:08:23AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR THE AREA,
10:08:26AM YESTERDAY, AT THE CAC MEETING, WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION
10:08:29AM ABOUT HOW WE CAN START LOOKING AT SOME HOUSING INITIATIVES
10:08:34AM FOR CENTRAL PARK LAST NIGHT, SO THAT WAS REALLY EXCITING.
10:08:38AM AND THEN THE INFILL AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND THEN
10:08:41AM ACQUISITIONS, WHATEVER WE CAN FIND AT THAT 101,000 FOR A
10:08:45AM TOTAL OF 597,513.
10:08:48AM MOVING FORWARD TO YBOR CITY.
10:08:54AM SO THE 30% ALLOCATION ON THIS IS OVER $4.9 MILLION.
10:09:00AM WE LOOKED AT REHAB FOR 900,000, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE,
10:09:06AM AGAIN, FOR 164,000.
10:09:09AM THE UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION, WE HAVE OVER ABOUT 2.2
10:09:14AM MILLION IN THAT POT.
10:09:15AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, ACQUISITIONS, WHICH IS 1.6 MILLION,
10:09:20AM TOTALING $4.9 MILLION, 4,947,021.
10:09:29AM INCLUDES YBOR ONE AND YBOR TWO BUDGETS.
10:09:31AM LET'S MOVE OVER TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:09:35AM THIS ACTUALLY IS ONE OF THE LOWEST ALLOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE,
10:09:40AM BUT THE 30% IS AT 224 RIGHT NOW.
10:09:44AM SO RIGHT THERE WE JUST ADDED TWO PROGRAMS WHICH IS REHAB AND
10:09:49AM ALSO DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
10:09:50AM SO IT TOTALS TO BE 224,005.
10:09:56AM NOW, MOVING OVER TO CHANNEL AND DOWNTOWN.
10:10:00AM SO CHANNEL, OF COURSE, THE 30% ALLOCATION IN CHANNELSIDE IS
10:10:05AM 10 MILLION, OVER 10 MILLION.
10:10:07AM DPA IS AT 1.5 MILLION.
10:10:13AM THE UNIT CREATION PROGRAM IS AROUND THAT 7 MILLION, CLOSE TO
10:10:18AM $8 MILLION.
10:10:19AM AND THEN ACQUISITIONS IS AT 1 MILLION.
10:10:22AM OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS -- WELL, I'M GOING TO
10:10:25AM DISCUSS IN A MINUTE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I HAVE.
10:10:28AM BUT IT'S TOTALING OVER $10 MILLION FOR CHANNEL.
10:10:33AM SO THEN LET'S MOVE TO DOWNTOWN.
10:10:37AM THE 30% ALLOCATION TOTAL IS AROUND 22 MILLION.
10:10:44AM AGAIN, RIGHT THERE, REHAB IS AT 800,000.
10:10:49AM DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, WE HAVE EARMARKED FOR 2.7 MILLION.
10:10:53AM UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION AT THE 5.3 MILLION AND THEN
10:10:58AM ACQUISITIONS AT THE $14 MILLION, TOTALING 22,922,026.
10:11:08AM LOOKING AT BOTH DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL, BASED ON PREPARING
10:11:16AM THIS PRESENTATION AND ALSO ANALYZING THE FUNDS FOR BOTH
10:11:19AM CHANNEL AND DOWNTOWN, WE WANTED TO DISCUSS ACTUALLY SOME
10:11:24AM THINGS WITH THE BOARD.
10:11:25AM SO THE FIRST THING, WITH THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE
10:11:28AM PROGRAM, IN LOOKING AT OUR FUNDS WITH DPA, ALL OF THE
10:11:32AM CURRENT DPA GRANTS THAT ARE GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY,
10:11:36AM WHICH ARE CURRENTLY BEING STACKED WITH HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
10:11:40AM DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT END USER
10:11:44AM PURCHASE THAT HOUSE.
10:11:46AM THE -- APARTMENT, PRICE CAPPED AT 450.
10:11:52AM SO UNITS IN BOTH DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL ARE SELLING FOR MORE
10:11:55AM THAN THAT.
10:11:56AM SO THAT IS THE DIFFICULTY.
10:11:59AM AGAIN, MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR HOUSEHOLDS EVEN MAKING UP TO
10:12:02AM 140% AREA MEDIAN INCOME TO QUALIFY FOR THE PURCHASE OF THAT
10:12:09AM UNIT.
10:12:09AM ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE HAD EARMARKED WAS THE ACQUISITION,
10:12:13AM STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS.
10:12:14AM SO, AGAIN, EVALUATING NUMBERS, LOOKING AT COSTS, YOU KNOW,
10:12:20AM PAST INFORMATION, CURRENT INFORMATION, EVALUATING THE LAND
10:12:24AM WITHIN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:12:26AM AGAIN, RESEARCH HAS SHOWN VERY FEW PARCELS AVAILABLE AND
10:12:29AM LAND COSTS ARE VERY HIGH IN THAT AREA.
10:12:32AM STAFF RECOMMENDS PLACING ALL FUNDS FROM BOTH THE DPA BUDGET
10:12:38AM ALLOCATION AND STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS OVER TO THE UNIT
10:12:42AM CREATION AND CONVERSION ACCOUNT IN ORDER TO MAKE SOME TYPE
10:12:46AM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THOSE AREAS.
10:12:50AM I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:12:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
10:12:56AM IF THIS PARTICULAR -- BOARD MEMBER HURTAK FOLLOWED BY BOARD
10:13:01AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:13:01AM I'M SORRY.
10:13:03AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:13:04AM NO, CLENDENIN WAS FIRST.
10:13:05AM MY APOLOGIES.
10:13:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS BREAKDOWN.
10:13:19AM I WANT FOLKS TO KNOW THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS MONEY AROUND.
10:13:21AM SO MY INTEREST IN THIS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MOVING
10:13:25AM SOME OF IT, BUT THE ISSUE IS IF WE'RE GOING TO CREATE
10:13:30AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEN WE ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE DOWN
10:13:33AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IN ORDER TO PURCHASE IT.
10:13:35AM SO I DO SUPPORT MOVING MOST OF IT, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE NEED
10:13:40AM TO LEAVE SOME.
10:13:42AM OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS FLUID, SO YOU COULD COME BACK TO US AND
10:13:45AM HAVE US MOVE MONEY BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, EVEN IF WE DID UNIT
10:13:49AM CREATION TODAY, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BREAK GROUND FOR
10:13:52AM ANOTHER YEAR.
10:13:53AM SO WE'VE GOT SOME WIGGLE ROOM HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S VERY
10:13:55AM IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC KNOW WE AREN'T MOVING ALL DOWN
10:13:59AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO UNIT
10:14:01AM CREATION FOR RENTAL ONLY.
10:14:03AM WE SHOULD BE WORKING IN BOTH AREAS.
10:14:05AM SO I DO BELIEVE THAT KEEPING SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE IN DOWN
10:14:10AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IS IMPORTANT FOR MAYBE LOOKING AT WHAT
10:14:16AM YOU'RE SEEING, MAYBE TWO OR THREE UNITS, JUST A KIND OF
10:14:20AM PLACE HOLDER THAT IF YOU NEED IT, YOU CAN MOVE IT QUICKLY,
10:14:23AM IF YOU NEED MORE, YOU CAN COME BACK TO US BUT WE ONLY MEET
10:14:26AM ONCE A MONTH.
10:14:27AM BUT I LIKE THE IDEA.
10:14:29AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE FUNDS IN DOWN
10:14:34AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE SO WHEN THESE AFFORDABLE UNITS POP ON
10:14:37AM THAT WE CAN HELP FOLKS PURCHASE THEM.
10:14:41AM >> YES, MA'AM.
10:14:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND THIS IS DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE THAT
10:14:43AM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
10:14:44AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN FOLLOWED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON
10:14:47AM FOLLOWED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:14:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS ISN'T GOING TO SURPRISE ANYBODY.
10:14:52AM WE CANNOT TREAT ALL THE CRAs AS EQUALS, BECAUSE THEY ARE
10:15:00AM NOT.
10:15:01AM THE INTEREST AND EQUITABLE ISSUES ARE VERY DIFFERENT
10:15:05AM DEPENDING ON ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES AS WE'VE GROWN AS A
10:15:08AM CITY, HAD GENTRIFICATION, SKYROCKETING PRICES OF REAL
10:15:14AM ESTATE.
10:15:16AM THIS HARKS BACK TO JUNE 2023.
10:15:19AM IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS THAT I ATTENDED AS A NEW
10:15:23AM COUNCIL PERSON.
10:15:24AM I WILL DEFINE THAT MEETING AS AN S SHOW.
10:15:27AM I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.
10:15:29AM I THINK IT WAS HORRIBLE.
10:15:30AM AND I THINK WE WALKED OUT OF THERE WITHOUT A COHESIVE
10:15:33AM UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE WERE GOING.
10:15:35AM IT WAS NOT WELL DESIGNED AND IT WAS NOT WELL RECEIVED BY
10:15:39AM MYSELF, ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS WE DID.
10:15:41AM I HATE TO STACK POLICY DECISIONS BASED ON A WEAK FOUNDATION.
10:15:47AM AGAIN, AS A MEMBER OF THE CRA BOARD, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
10:15:49AM WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE AND THOROUGH VETTING OF THE DIRECTION.
10:15:54AM WE'RE TALKING A LOT, A LOT OF MONEY AND SOME CONSEQUENTIAL
10:15:57AM DECISIONS THAT MAKE AN IMPACT ON SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES.
10:16:00AM I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED TO DIVIDE THIS OUT.
10:16:03AM CLEARLY, DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE ARE VERY UNIQUE CRAs
10:16:07AM BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY ARE, THE COST OF HOUSING, THE COST OF
10:16:10AM EVERYTHING.
10:16:11AM I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, TAMPA HEIGHTS MAY BE -- OF COURSE,
10:16:15AM SUCH INCONSEQUENTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
10:16:17AM I THINK IN THE FUTURE, COMING UP REALLY RAPIDLY, YBOR WILL
10:16:20AM TRANSITION TO THE SAME DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE ABOUT
10:16:22AM DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE.
10:16:23AM LET'S TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES OF GOOD GOVERNMENT IS
10:16:28AM THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF
10:16:30AM PEOPLE.
10:16:30AM I'M PROBABLY GOING TO JUMP AHEAD IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT
10:16:36AM ONE OF THE PROPOSALS, $350,000 PER UNIT IN DOWNTOWN AND
10:16:41AM CHANNELSIDE.
10:16:42AM THAT'S JUST CRAZY BECAUSE YOU'RE LITERALLY GOING TO HELP A
10:16:46AM HANDFUL, LITERALLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE VERSUS WE COULD HAVE
10:16:50AM OTHER PROGRAMS EITHER IN PUBLIC PARKS OR TRANSPORTATION OR
10:16:54AM OTHER THINGS WHERE PEOPLE, MAYBE THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE
10:16:58AM DISTRICT BUT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE AMENITIES.
10:17:00AM SO WE'RE BOXED IN WITH SPENDING MONEY IN THE CRA.
10:17:03AM LET'S SAY THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN AREAS JUST NORTH OF
10:17:06AM DOWNTOWN OR CHANNELSIDE THAT ARE NOT IN THAT CRA.
10:17:09AM IF WE COULD SUBSIDIZE TRANSPORTATION SO THEY CAN COME DOWN
10:17:12AM AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE AMENITIES THAT ARE IN THOSE
10:17:15AM AREAS AND WE CREATE AMENITIES IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE PUBLIC
10:17:18AM PARKS, BETTER TRANSPORTATION, IF WE COULD SUBSIDIZE MORE
10:17:22AM LIKE WE'VE DONE WITH ROUTE ONE OR EXPANSION OF THE
10:17:26AM STREETCARS SO PEOPLE CAN COME DOWN AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
10:17:28AM THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
10:17:30AM GREATEST AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE
10:17:33AM SPECIFICALLY IN THOSE ISSUES IS VERY IMPORTANT.
10:17:34AM I LOOK AT THE SUBSIDIES AND I THINK YOU HIT IT WELL ON YOUR
10:17:39AM SLIDE, ABOUT THE DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES.
10:17:42AM AND THAT'S IN ESSENCE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
10:17:44AM A LOT OF THESE FOLKS ARE COMING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR
10:17:48AM DEEP POCKETS.
10:17:49AM AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE MAY GET A SWEET DEAL OUT OF THIS, BUT
10:17:53AM IT'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.
10:17:54AM PEOPLE GETTING THE SWEETEST DEAL BIG DEVELOPER AND SOME OF
10:17:58AM THE DEVELOPERS ARE MY FRIENDS.
10:17:59AM SO I'M SPEAKING ABOUT SOME OF MY FRIENDS.
10:18:02AM THEY ARE GETTING THE SWEETEST DEAL.
10:18:03AM THEY ARE GETTING THEIR FINGERS IN THE POCKETS OF THE
10:18:05AM GOVERNMENT TO BUILD PROJECTS THAT MAY NOT BE FINANCIALLY
10:18:08AM VIABLE AND ONLY HELP A REALLY, REALLY, REALLY SMALL AMOUNT
10:18:10AM OF PEOPLE.
10:18:11AM I WOULD MUCH RATHER -- I MEAN, I THINK MS. PARKS, APPLAUD
10:18:16AM YOU.
10:18:16AM I THINK YOU HAVE DONE STELLAR -- I SAID THIS IN OUR BRIEFING
10:18:20AM -- STELLAR JOB IN ATTEMPTING TO PIVOT AND CREATE A DOCUMENT
10:18:24AM BASED ON SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD.
10:18:27AM BUT INFILL DEVELOPMENT CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO SOME OF OUR
10:18:32AM NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE IT'S TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR PEOPLE.
10:18:36AM ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE BLIGHTED AREAS, YOU HAVE VACANT
10:18:38AM LOTS.
10:18:39AM YOU HAVE DILAPIDATED HOUSING, IT CREATES ISSUES.
10:18:42AM WHEN WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO CREATE INFILL HOUSING, I THINK
10:18:45AM IT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:18:47AM DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR PEOPLE.
10:18:50AM WITH NOT THAT MUCH MONEY, AGAIN, WE CAN TRANSFORM PEOPLE'S
10:18:53AM LIVES AND TRANSFORM A LOT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES.
10:18:56AM I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO IS
10:18:58AM REHABILITATION OF HOUSES.
10:19:00AM WE NEED TO DOUBLE, TRIPLE, QUADRUPLE DOWN ON THAT BECAUSE IT
10:19:05AM GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES,
10:19:07AM ESPECIALLY SENIOR CITIZENS OR SINGLE PARENTS.
10:19:11AM IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ONCE AGAIN HAVE PRIDE IN
10:19:15AM HOME OWNERSHIP.
10:19:16AM IT GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF A HOLE THAT
10:19:19AM THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN THEMSELVES INTO.
10:19:21AM MAYBE THEY WERE UNINSURED AND THEY HAD HOMEOWNER DAMAGE,
10:19:26AM WIND DAMAGE AND STUFF.
10:19:27AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT REHABILITATION IS SUCH A
10:19:31AM CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THING.
10:19:32AM AS WE LOOK AT THE CRAs, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
10:19:35AM AGAIN, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT DREW PARK AS AN
10:19:38AM EQUAL COMPONENT OF DOWNTOWN OR TALK ABOUT EAST TAMPA AS
10:19:41AM EQUAL COMPONENT TO CHANNELSIDE.
10:19:43AM THEY ARE ALL VERY UNIQUE.
10:19:46AM I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL SHOULD REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK AT
10:19:49AM THIS 30% ALLOCATION AND PIVOT FROM THAT AND SOME VERY
10:19:53AM SPECIFIC AREAS OF OUR CRAs.
10:19:55AM MY TIME IS UP SO I WILL SHUT UP.
10:19:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:19:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH THAT PHILOSOPHICALLY EXCEPT I
10:20:02AM THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THE 30% IN DOWNTOWN AND REDUCE THE
10:20:04AM AMOUNT.
10:20:05AM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ROUND AND ROUND.
10:20:07AM IF WE HAD 70 MILLION OR WHATEVER IN DOWNTOWN, AND UP UNTIL
10:20:12AM MY COLLEAGUES CHANGED THE BUDGET A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE
10:20:15AM CITY FOR 20 YEARS WAS SPENDING $4 MILLION A YEAR ON ROAD
10:20:18AM REPAIR, THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE REALLY UPSET ABOUT
10:20:21AM ROAD REPAIR.
10:20:22AM IF WE MOVE 35, HALF OF THIS MONEY, $35 MILLION A YEAR INTO
10:20:26AM THE CITY, FIRST OF ALL, WE COULD MOVE JUST OUTSIDE THE
10:20:30AM DOWNTOWN CRA AND BUILD A LOT CHEAPER THAN WE CAN BUILD
10:20:33AM INSIDE THE CRA FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:20:35AM BUT WE CAN ALSO FIX ROADS OR DO STORMWATER MITIGATION OR
10:20:39AM WHATEVER.
10:20:41AM 60, 70 MILLION DOLLARS IS TOO MUCH TO TRAP INSIDE A CRA.
10:20:45AM PEOPLE ARE REALLY ANGRY AND THEY SAY, WHY CAN'T WE USE THE
10:20:48AM MONEY THAT'S INCREASING EVERY YEAR?
10:20:50AM THE MONEY IS NOT THAT MUCH IN THE GENERAL FUND, ESPECIALLY
10:20:54AM THAT'S DISCRETIONARY, EXCEPT FOR IN THE CRA.
10:20:57AM SO IF WE REDUCED IT FROM LET'S SAY 70 MILLION DOWN TO 35,
10:21:01AM THEN THE 30% WOULD BE OKAY.
10:21:02AM BUT THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S TOO MUCH MONEY TRAPPED IN THE
10:21:05AM DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:21:06AM THE OTHER THING IS UNTIL LIKE 2019, THE CRA WAS A SLUSH FUND
10:21:14AM FOR DEVELOPERS.
10:21:16AM IT'S ANTICOMPETITIVE.
10:21:19AM SOME DEVELOPERS GOT SUBSIDIES AND SOME DIDN'T.
10:21:22AM DEPENDED ON WHO YOU WERE FRIENDS WITH AND WHO YOUR LOBBYISTS
10:21:25AM WERE.
10:21:26AM IT WAS A TERRIBLE SITUATION.
10:21:27AM I APPRECIATE THE STAFF IN THE LAST FEW YEARS FOR TRYING TO
10:21:29AM CHANGE THAT AND MS. PARKS, EXCELLENT PRESENTATION SO FAR.
10:21:34AM I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EXPERTISE.
10:21:35AM JUST SHOWS YOU PUT THE RIGHT PERSON IN THE RIGHT POSITION
10:21:37AM AND THEY CAN DO A REALLY GOOD JOB.
10:21:39AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN CARRYING THIS FORWARD.
10:21:42AM I THINK WE SHOULD WORK ON THE DEMAND SIDE INSTEAD OF THE
10:21:45AM SUPPLY SIDE.
10:21:46AM WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE.
10:21:49AM WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE, THE FORMER EXECUTIVES IN THE CITY
10:21:53AM WOULD GET A REQUEST FROM SOMEBODY AND SAY, I NEED $10
10:21:55AM MILLION OR I NEED $15 MILLION.
10:21:57AM OKAY, WELL, AS LONG AS YOU BUILD SOMETHING SHINY AND NEW
10:22:00AM BECAUSE OUR GOAL WAS THE EDIFICE COMPLEX.
10:22:04AM WE DIDN'T CARE WHAT THE COST WAS.
10:22:06AM YOU PUT SOMETHING IN LIKE THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE,
10:22:10AM THAT'S CREATING DEMAND.
10:22:11AM SO I'D RATHER PUT IN THE DEMAND SIDE THAN THE SUPPLY SIDE.
10:22:15AM THE OTHER THING IS, IF YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE THREE REAL FAST,
10:22:18AM COULD YOU FLIP BACK?
10:22:19AM THE QUICK THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT -- YEAH, GO BACK -- IT
10:22:28AM SAYS IN FISCAL YEAR '23 WE REAFFIRMED THIS IN 2023, BUT WE
10:22:33AM APPROVED IT IN 2020, THE FIRST LINE.
10:22:36AM AND THE PROBLEM WAS THAT THE STAFF AT THE TIME AND THE
10:22:39AM ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T WANT US TO SPEND IT, SO WE DIDN'T.
10:22:42AM IT JUST SAT THERE.
10:22:44AM MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE ACCUMULATION?
10:22:46AM I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS KEPT IN SOME
10:22:50AM OF THESE ACCOUNTS.
10:22:50AM YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR ONE YEAR, BUT WHAT IS THE
10:22:53AM ACCUMULATED NUMBER?
10:22:54AM YBOR, FOR EXAMPLE, I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY
10:22:56AM THAT'S ACCUMULATED.
10:22:57AM THE PROBLEM WE'VE HAD, UNLIKE ON THE CITY SIDE, WE'RE
10:23:02AM LOOKING FOR PROJECTS ON THE CRA SIDE.
10:23:07AM HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE STACKED UP IN EACH OF
10:23:09AM THESE?
10:23:10AM DO YOU HAVE A SLIDE ON THAT?
10:23:14AM >> I DON'T KNOW.
10:23:15AM HOLD ON.
10:23:15AM YES, YES.
10:23:27AM THIS IS THE ROLLOVER.
10:23:29AM I'M SORRY.
10:23:29AM YES, SO, YES, THIS IS THE ROLLOVER.
10:23:32AM SO THIS INCLUDES EVERYTHING.
10:23:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU GUYS JUST CIRCULATE AT SOME POINT --
10:23:41AM I KNOW IT IS -- JUST CIRCULATE WHAT THE ROLLOVERS ARE SO WE
10:23:45AM CAN SEE.
10:23:47AM >> THAT IS THE COMPLETE ROLLOVER.
10:23:48AM THAT'S EVERYTHING WE HAVE.
10:23:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO LOOK AT A SINGLE YEAR AS COMPARED
10:23:52AM TO WHAT THE ROLLOVER IS.
10:23:54AM THAT'S THE POINT.
10:23:55AM >> YOU WANTED SINGLE YEAR.
10:23:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE WE THINK THE TOTAL FOR THIS YEAR IS
10:23:59AM 23 MILLION, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME NEXT YEAR IF WE
10:24:02AM SPEND IT ALL BECAUSE WE HAVE A ROLLOVER OF SOME AMOUNT.
10:24:05AM >> FROM 2020, WHAT DATE?
10:24:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MONEY COMING FROM
10:24:10AM 2020 ALL THE WAY UP TO TODAY.
10:24:12AM AT LEAST FROM 2023, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE WE DIDN'T HAVE
10:24:15AM ANY PROJECTS.
10:24:16AM LIKE YBOR HAS BEEN SEARCHING FOR A PROJECT.
10:24:21AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:24:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:24:22AM IF LAST YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD 5 MILLION IN YBOR AND
10:24:26AM DIDN'T SPEND IT, THEN FIVE PLUS WHATEVER IS ALLOCATED THIS
10:24:29AM YEAR.
10:24:30AM BUT IF WE WENT BACK TO 2020 WHEN WE STARTED THIS, THERE
10:24:33AM MIGHT BE 20, 30 MILLION BUILT UP BUT ONLY SPENDING 5 MILLION
10:24:38AM IN A GIVEN YEAR.
10:24:39AM WHAT IS THE TOTAL COMPARED -- WHAT IS THE TOTAL THAT'S
10:24:42AM ACCUMULATED?
10:24:43AM IF YOU GUYS WOULDN'T MIND JUST GIVING US THAT AT SOME POINT.
10:24:48AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
10:24:49AM IF I COULD ASK A CLARIFICATION.
10:24:51AM PART OF THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY IS THAT WHILE THE BOARD
10:24:57AM ALLOCATED THE 30%, NOBODY EVER CAME BACK AND SAID THE 30%
10:25:03AM HAS BEEN DIVIDED AMONGST THESE FIVE PROGRAMS.
10:25:05AM IT WAS A 30% BUCKET.
10:25:09AM WE CAN BRING YOU BACK WHAT THE 30% WAS FROM '23 AND '24 AND
10:25:14AM WHAT WAS SPENT OUT OF THAT 30% AND THEN WHAT'S ROLLED
10:25:19AM FORWARD.
10:25:19AM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TODAY IS SAY YOU HAVE ALLOCATED THE
10:25:24AM 30% AND FOR THIS YEAR, WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT INTO THESE
10:25:29AM BUCKETS TO THEN WORK TOWARD DOING THAT VERSUS JUST HAVING IT
10:25:33AM AS A LUMP SUM SO WE ALL KNOW WHERE IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED AND
10:25:38AM WHERE WE WILL WORK OVER THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO GET THOSE
10:25:41AM FUNDS EXPENDED.
10:25:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
10:25:44AM I APPRECIATE YOU ALL DOING THAT.
10:25:45AM THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, IF THERE WAS 5 MILLION ALLOCATED,
10:25:49AM FOR EXAMPLE, IN YBOR LAST YEAR AND ALL THAT 5 MILLION WAS
10:25:52AM SPENT FOR HOUSING OR WAS IT SPENT FOR SOMETHING ELSE?
10:25:55AM IF IT WASN'T SPENT, IS IT SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT, HOW MUCH IS
10:26:01AM THAT TOTAL AMOUNT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT'S BUILT UP?
10:26:04AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU TODAY IS WHAT THE
10:26:06AM TOTAL AMOUNT IS.
10:26:07AM THERE'S NOTHING SITTING ANYWHERE ELSE.
10:26:09AM WHAT'S IN THE 30% BUCKET IS WHAT HAS BEEN CARRIED FORWARD.
10:26:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION FOR YOU ALL, TO SEND US
10:26:17AM SEPARATELY AND MAYBE PUT IN THE FILE, IF YOU COULD, SEPARATE
10:26:20AM OUT THIS YEAR VERSUS WHAT'S ACCUMULATED SO PEOPLE CAN SEE
10:26:23AM WHAT'S ACCUMULATED.
10:26:24AM SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAY YOU ALLOCATED THIS, HAVEN'T
10:26:28AM SEEN THE MONEY SPENT AND WE NEED TO SHOW THEM THAT, YEAH,
10:26:31AM THE MONEY HAS BEEN ACCUMULATING, AND THIS NUMBER IS THIS
10:26:34AM YEAR'S NUMBER PLUS THAT ACCUMULATION.
10:26:38AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE CAN BREAK THOSE SLIDES OUT TO INCLUDE
10:26:42AM PRIOR FISCAL YEAR '25 WHAT THE FUNDS WERE AND WHAT THE
10:26:45AM CURRENT ALLOCATION FOR -- WOULD THAT -- OR YOU WANT A
10:26:49AM ROLLOVER MULTIPLE YEARS OR NOWHERE WE ARE TODAY AS WHAT WAS
10:26:53AM BROUGHT FORWARD AND WHAT IS THIS YEAR'S?
10:26:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: 2020 TO 2024, THERE WAS 20 MILLION THAT
10:27:00AM SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED.
10:27:02AM 15 OF THAT HAS BEEN SPENT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEN 5
10:27:05AM MILLION LEFT AND THAT ROLLS FORWARD.
10:27:06AM SO THAT'S REALLY JUST TO SHOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN
10:27:09AM THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND WHAT ROLLING FORWARD.
10:27:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST FOR CLARITY ON THE ITEMS, WHEN WE
10:27:19AM LOOK AT THE AFFORDABILITY, 100% DOWN TO, SO ON.
10:27:25AM TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING THE UNIT, THE DIFFERENT COSTS, DO
10:27:30AM WE EMPHASIZE AND UNDERSTAND, DO WE HAVE A METRIC THAT PUTS
10:27:33AM IN THE INSURANCE COST EVERY YEAR FOR THAT UNIT?
10:27:36AM DO WE PUT THE COST OF TAXATION FOR THAT UNIT FROM THE
10:27:41AM GENERAL PUBLIC THAT GOES TO MR. ENRIQUEZ AND COMPARE TO SEE
10:27:44AM WHAT THE SALARIES, CAN THAT SALARY MATCH THAT AFTERWARDS?
10:27:47AM WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO, I DON'T WANT -- I AGREE WITH BOTH
10:27:53AM COLLEAGUES WHO SPOKE EARLIER IN THE SYSTEM OF WHO GETS WHAT,
10:27:57AM AND AT THE COST OF LIVING GOES UP, IS THE SALARY GOING UP
10:28:01AM COMPARED TO THESE RATES, A DOCTOR STARTING OBGYN, NOT THOSE
10:28:06AM THAT DO SURGERIES, THOSE THAT ARE GENERAL PRACTITIONERS,
10:28:09AM THEY QUALIFY FOR THIS, I THINK.
10:28:12AM THAT IS THE LOWEST PAID IN THE DOCTOR FIELD, IF I REMEMBER.
10:28:15AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS HOW DO WE HELP THE MOST PEOPLE WITH THE
10:28:19AM MONEY THAT WE HAVE SO THAT THOSE IN THE BOTTOM CAN CLIMB UP
10:28:23AM STRATEGICALLY.
10:28:25AM LET ME SAY THIS.
10:28:26AM 1968 I COULD HAVE BOUGHT A HOUSE ON PARIS STREET, FOUR
10:28:31AM BLOCKS NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, PAYMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN
10:28:33AM $119.
10:28:34AM YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED?
10:28:35AM WEST TAMPA PAYING OVER $69.
10:28:42AM I'M NOT GENIUS, BUT I KNOW WHAT I COULD AFFORD.
10:28:45AM THAT WAS WITH A SECOND MORTGAGE OF $7.
10:28:47AM IT'S INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THAT GET
10:28:54AM THE MONEY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PURCHASING IT CAN
10:28:57AM CERTAINLY FIT WITHIN THEIR PARAMETERS OF INCOME SO THAT THEY
10:29:01AM CAN STAY AND OWN IT.
10:29:05AM I DON'T WANT SOMETHING TO BE SOLD TODAY FOR TOMORROW, LOSE
10:29:09AM IT, FLIP, NOT SAYING THAT WILL HAPPEN.
10:29:12AM EVERYTHING IN LIFE HAS PROBABILITIES IF THERE'S AN
10:29:14AM OPPORTUNITY.
10:29:16AM >> YES, SIR.
10:29:16AM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DO LOOK AT COST FOR THAT
10:29:21AM HOMEOWNER.
10:29:22AM THAT'S WHY IT WAS INCREASED FROM THE 40,000 TO 50,000 BEING
10:29:27AM THE MAXIMUM.
10:29:28AM IT'S LIKE ANALYZED ON A YEARLY BASIS JUST LIKE THE INCOME.
10:29:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SIMPLY SAY THIS, THAT INDIVIDUAL MIGHT BE
10:29:37AM BETTER OFF AT A LOWER PURCHASE PRICE WHERE HE AND SHE CAN
10:29:41AM HAVE OTHER AMENITIES TO LIVE WITH.
10:29:43AM THAN THE ONE -- UP TO HERE CHOKING.
10:29:48AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WE'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYONE
10:29:51AM HAS A DIFFERENT INCOME.
10:29:52AM EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE JOB AND WHAT YOU
10:29:57AM THINK YOU'LL MAKE FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS FROM NOW.
10:30:00AM THIS IS WHAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE LOOKING AT SO YOU CAN SAY
10:30:02AM THIS PERSON STAY THERE AND BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER HE OR SHE
10:30:05AM WANTS.
10:30:06AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ABBYE FEELEY, YES.
10:30:09AM OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN ALL OF -- IN HOUSING
10:30:14AM UNIVERSALLY AND WITHIN THE CRAs INCLUDES THAT HOUSING
10:30:17AM COUNSELING.
10:30:18AM BUT THE COST WHEN WE DO, WHICH HAS RISEN SEVERAL TIMES SINCE
10:30:24AM EVEN I'VE BEEN BACK AT THE CITY, IT WAS AT 311 AND NOW IT IS
10:30:27AM UP TO 450, BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE INSURING THAT THE ESCROW
10:30:32AM GOES IN FOR THE TAXES AND THE INSURANCE.
10:30:35AM IT'S NOT A 450.
10:30:37AM STILL HAS TO HAVE THOSE ELEMENTS.
10:30:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.
10:30:40AM THANK YOU.
10:30:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:30:43AM I JUST WANT TO COMMENT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANNELSIDE
10:30:47AM AND DOWNTOWN, TO SAY I BELIEVE, PARTICULARLY FOR DOWNTOWN,
10:30:50AM THAT THERE IS STILL OPPORTUNITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:30:52AM WE DO HAVE THE ARMY NAVY STORE.
10:30:54AM WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE RFP FOR THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S AN
10:30:59AM OPPORTUNITY ALONG WITH EVEN UNIQUE POSSIBILITIES IN TERMS OF
10:31:02AM HOUSING DOWNTOWN FOR US TO BE VERY AGGRESSIVE BECAUSE WE
10:31:05AM HAVE SO MUCH FUNDING THERE THAT WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS AND
10:31:09AM LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES THAT PROVIDE AFFORDABILITY IN DOWNTOWN
10:31:14AM BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A GREAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THERE.
10:31:17AM THE 140% AMI AND HELPING SOMEONE OF THAT CALIBER MEANS THEY
10:31:22AM MAKE HOW MUCH MONEY.
10:31:24AM 140% AMI --
10:31:26AM >> THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT NOW FOR A HOUSEHOLD, 93,000 A YEAR.
10:31:31AM HOWEVER, JUST LIKE BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA STATED, THAT IS
10:31:36AM ACTUALLY ENTRY LEVEL DOCTOR.
10:31:38AM AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A NURSE, FIREFIGHTER.
10:31:41AM SO THAT IS THE WORKFORCE AT THAT 140% AMI.
10:31:46AM THEY, AS YOU KNOW, STILL HAVE DIFFICULTY FINDING AFFORDABLE
10:31:49AM HOUSING.
10:31:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ABSOLUTELY.
10:31:50AM IT DOES RANGE ACROSS THE BOARD.
10:31:52AM I DON'T WANT TO DENY THAT.
10:31:52AM YOUR QUESTION, GO BACK TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION SLIDE FOR
10:31:57AM CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN.
10:31:58AM THEN WE CAN START AT EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, DREW PARK.
10:32:06AM IF ANYONE WANT TO MAKE COMMENT ON ANY OF THE OTHERS.
10:32:09AM THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
10:32:15AM ANYONE HAVE COMMENTS ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY ARE
10:32:18AM ASKING US FOR?
10:32:19AM >> I JUST WANT TO MENTION, THIS IS JUST FOR AT THIS MOMENT.
10:32:22AM WE'RE GOING TO ANALYZE THIS, SEE HOW THIS WORKS, CHECK IN
10:32:27AM WITH YOU GUYS AROUND, YOU KNOW, JUST JULY, WHENEVER YOU WANT
10:32:32AM TO CALL ME, I ANSWER.
10:32:33AM SO, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A STARTING OFF POINT.
10:32:37AM SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TODAY TO JUST RECOMMEND
10:32:41AM THAT WE MOVE THOSE TO THE UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION LINE
10:32:45AM ITEM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW WE COULD DO
10:32:49AM AS WE LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS FOR THOSE TWO AREAS.
10:32:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:32:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:32:55AM I WAS GOING TO REPLY TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY
10:32:59AM DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO WAIT AND FOCUS
10:33:01AM SOLELY ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
10:33:04AM I ALREADY SAID THAT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
10:33:06AM I JUST THINK WE NEED TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT IN DOWN PAYMENT
10:33:09AM ASSISTANCE JUST IN CASE.
10:33:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
10:33:14AM ANY COMMENTS ON EAST TAMPA?
10:33:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALONG WITH MY COMMENT, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT
10:33:24AM I MOVE THAT WE PUT IN PLACE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:33:31AM FOR EVERYBODY.
10:33:36AM THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN.
10:33:41AM >> THE OTHER AVENUES WE WORK OUT THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS, BUT
10:33:44AM JUST FOR THOSE BEING THAT THEY ARE SPECIALIZED AREAS, ASKING
10:33:48AM FOR THAT.
10:33:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT?
10:33:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:33:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD
10:33:53AM MEMBER HURTAK.
10:33:54AM SECOND FOLLOWED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:33:58AM DISCUSSION?
10:33:58AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:33:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I STRONGLY URGE THE BOARD NOT TO DO THIS.
10:34:02AM I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF UNMET NEEDS IN DOWNTOWN AND
10:34:07AM CHANNELSIDE.
10:34:07AM I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST USE OF GOVERNMENT MONEY.
10:34:10AM IN FACT, I THINK I FREQUENTLY SEE THIS IS GOING TO GET A LOT
10:34:12AM OF BLOW-BACK FROM PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA WHEN THEY GET BACK AND
10:34:16AM SEE THE COST PER UNIT AND THE AMOUNT OF ACQUISITION.
10:34:19AM AGAIN, GREATEST AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF
10:34:21AM PEOPLE.
10:34:21AM WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?
10:34:22AM WE HAVE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS IN BOTH OF THESE AREAS.
10:34:27AM WE HAVE MAJOR PARK NEEDS IN BOTH OF THESE AREAS.
10:34:30AM WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GREENSPACE.
10:34:33AM WE DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
10:34:34AM WE'RE LOOKING TO EXTEND THE STREETCAR WHICH WILL BE LIFE
10:34:37AM ENHANCING FOR MANY PEOPLE, NOT JUST IN DOWNTOWN AND
10:34:40AM CHANNELSIDE, BUT YBOR CITY, TAMPA HEIGHTS AND THE ADJOINING
10:34:44AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:34:44AM I THINK WHEN WE SIT HERE AS CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE A LOT OF
10:34:48AM OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS FROM OUR GENERAL
10:34:51AM BUDGET TO DISCUSS SULPHUR SPRINGS AND THE CREATION OF
10:34:54AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TO DISCUSS OTHER AREAS, GRANT PARK AND
10:34:57AM THOSE AREAS, THE CREATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:34:59AM THESE TWO AREAS ARE JUST -- RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND THE
10:35:04AM AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING IS JUST NOT THE BEST USE
10:35:08AM OF OUR RESOURCES AT THIS TIME.
10:35:09AM IF WE COULD PROVIDE AFFORDABLE TRANSPORTATION TO PEOPLE THAT
10:35:14AM MAYBE DON'T LIVE DOWNTOWN BUT LIVE ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN,
10:35:17AM THAT WILL BE LIFE ENHANCING.
10:35:19AM IT WILL EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES, EXPAND JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
10:35:22AM EVEN AT THE RATES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE PEOPLE WORKING AS
10:35:25AM SERVERS DOWNTOWN, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING AT THE STRAZ,
10:35:28AM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING AT TAMPA THEATRE, AT ALL OF OUR
10:35:32AM HOTELS, THEY STILL CAN'T AFFORD THIS.
10:35:34AM AGAIN, WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WORKING DOWNTOWN.
10:35:36AM THIS IS ONLY GOING TO HELP A HANDFUL.
10:35:38AM YOU GIVE THEM AFFORDABLE TRANSPORTATION, THEY CAN GET DOWN
10:35:41AM HERE AND WORK.
10:35:42AM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
10:35:44AM BECAUSE JOBS ARE IMPORTANT AND PEOPLE NEED JOBS AND NEED TO
10:35:46AM BE ABLE TO GET TO THEIR JOBS AND GET TO HEALTH CARE.
10:35:48AM WE'RE BUILDING SO MUCH HEALTH CARE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THESE
10:35:51AM AREAS, BUT HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO GET THERE?
10:35:53AM THERE'S NO PARKING.
10:35:54AM THEY HAVE TO COME DOWN AND SPEND $25 AN HOUR TO PARK IN SOME
10:35:59AM OF THESE PARKING SPOTS.
10:36:01AM LET'S GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH TRANSPORTATION TO GET
10:36:03AM TO HEALTH CARE.
10:36:04AM LET'S GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH TRANSPORTATION TO GET
10:36:06AM TO THEIR JOBS.
10:36:07AM THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD AND US AS WE CITY AS CITY COUNCIL
10:36:10AM SHOULD BE -- AS WE SIT AS CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE --
10:36:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID YOU WANT TO REPLY?
10:36:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SORRY.
10:36:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:36:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:36:19AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN MAKES SOME VERY, VERY GOOD POINTS WHICH
10:36:21AM IS WE DO HAVE TO INVEST OBVIOUSLY IN DOWNTOWN
10:36:24AM TRANSPORTATION.
10:36:25AM I ALWAYS SAY A LOT OF THINGS IN LIFE AREN'T BLACK-AND-WHITE.
10:36:31AM THERE IS GRAY HERE OBVIOUSLY.
10:36:33AM I VOTED ON A LOT OF THINGS IN DOWNTOWN, I THINK $35 MILLION
10:36:36AM IN GRANTS TO DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS IN DOWNTOWN BECAUSE I DO
10:36:39AM THINK WE CAN EITHER, NUMBER ONE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS
10:36:42AM CHAMPIONED THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, CAPPED THE
10:36:44AM DOWNTOWN CRA AND USED THAT MONEY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY
10:36:48AM OR ALTERNATIVELY, LIKE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID, WE CAN USE
10:36:51AM IT FOR THINGS WITHIN DOWNTOWN, THINGS LIKE THE STREETCAR,
10:36:54AM THINGS LIKE PARKS, ET CETERA, THOSE ARE THINGS I CITED WHEN
10:36:58AM I VOTED AGAINST THOSE THINGS YEARS AGO.
10:37:00AM THE DISTINCTION FOR THIS, WHICH, AGAIN, I MENTIONED
10:37:03AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S REMARKS BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE VERY
10:37:05AM WORTHY, THE DISTINCTION FOR ME HERE IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE
10:37:08AM THAT IN DOWNTOWN THAT WE DO HAVE AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE
10:37:11AM HOUSING IN DOWNTOWN.
10:37:13AM CITY OF TAMPA PARTICULARLY SINCE COVID, THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS
10:37:17AM SEEMED CLOSER TO THE BOTTOM THAN THE TOP.
10:37:19AM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE PLACES THROUGHOUT THE
10:37:22AM CITY WHERE EVERYDAY WORKING PEOPLE CAN LIVE.
10:37:24AM AGAIN, I KNOW COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AGREES WITH THAT.
10:37:28AM I AGREE WITH A LOT OF HIS COMMENTS.
10:37:29AM I JUST ON THIS GRAY ISSUE, I GO ON THE SIDE OF 60/40.
10:37:35AM BY THE WAY, I HAVE TO LEAVE IN THREE MINUTES.
10:37:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ACCEPT
10:37:41AM THE STRATEGIES AS PRESENTED TO US AND A SECOND.
10:37:44AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:37:46AM >> AYE.
10:37:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY SAY OPPOSED YET BUT VERY GOOD.
10:37:50AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:37:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
10:37:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION CARRIES.
10:37:53AM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:37:57AM EXCUSE ME.
10:38:01AM HOLD ON A SECOND.
10:38:03AM YES, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:38:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:38:05AM I JUST WANT TO KIND OF CLEAR THE AIR SO WE CAN GET FORWARD
10:38:09AM TO THE ACTUAL WORK.
10:38:11AM WE ALREADY TRIED CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA AS THE CRA.
10:38:16AM IT FAILED.
10:38:17AM LET'S STOP BEATING THE HORSE.
10:38:19AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS CRITICAL EVERYWHERE.
10:38:22AM IT JUST IS.
10:38:23AM I LOVE THE IDEA OF TRANSIT BUT WE CAN'T MOVE THE MONEY
10:38:29AM BEYOND THE BORDERS.
10:38:31AM CAN'T EXPAND TRANSIT INTO THE PARTS OF THE CITY THAT YOU SAY
10:38:33AM THE HOUSING IS, WE CAN'T MOVE IT THERE.
10:38:36AM STOP.
10:38:37AM STOP.
10:38:38AM WHY ARE WE WASTING TIME TALKING ABOUT THINGS WE CAN'T DO?
10:38:45AM THIS IS FRUSTRATING TO ME.
10:38:46AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS CRITICAL EVERYWHERE.
10:38:48AM THIS IS WHY THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST KEPT BEING BROUGHT
10:38:50AM FORWARD.
10:38:51AM IF YOU WANT TO SPEND AND YOU DON'T THINK PEOPLE CAN AFFORD
10:38:55AM HOUSING, THAT'S WHAT COMMUNITY LAND TRUST IS FOR.
10:38:58AM I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.
10:39:00AM BUT, PLEASE, CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN
10:39:04AM CRA?
10:39:04AM PLEASE, CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING TRANSIT TO WHERE
10:39:08AM PEOPLE LIVE?
10:39:09AM BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THOSE AREAS ARE OUTSIDE OF THESE
10:39:12AM CRAs.
10:39:12AM THANK YOU.
10:39:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, I APPRECIATE YOUR
10:39:14AM COMMENTS.
10:39:15AM THEY DO HAVE A RIGHT TO --
10:39:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW.
10:39:18AM JUST SAYING.
10:39:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:39:20AM I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
10:39:22AM THE MONEY IS WHERE IT IS.
10:39:23AM AND THAT'S WHY WE GAVE THE MONEY TO THE STRAZ AND TO THE ART
10:39:27AM MUSEUM IN SUCH HIGH AMOUNTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT WAS
10:39:30AM AVAILABLE IN THE CRA.
10:39:31AM FOR EFFICIENCY, LET'S MOVE ON AND DISCUSS --
10:39:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
10:39:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, PLEASE ALLOW ME TO
10:39:41AM GET THROUGH THIS MEETING WITH THESE COMMENTS SO THAT THE
10:39:45AM PUBLIC CAN STAY FOCUSED ON THE PRESENTATION.
10:39:48AM GO BACK TO, ANY COMMENTS ON EAST TAMPA CRA?
10:39:52AM ANY COMMENTS ON EAST TAMPA CRA?
10:39:55AM AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA CRA,
10:40:01AM AT LEAST 14 LOTS AVAILABLE LISTED.
10:40:03AM THAT'S MORE THAN ANY OTHER PLACE.
10:40:05AM WE HAVE $9 MILLION.
10:40:06AM I APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT.
10:40:09AM ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON EAST TAMPA?
10:40:10AM WEST TAMPA?
10:40:11AM DREW PARK?
10:40:14AM CENTRAL PARK?
10:40:16AM I DO HAVE A COMMENT ON CENTRAL PARK.
10:40:20AM WE BOUGHT THE JOHNSON HOUSES THERE.
10:40:26AM DO THEY BELONG TO US NOW OR TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY?
10:40:29AM BECAUSE THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THAT LAND OVER THERE
10:40:31AM FOR HOUSING.
10:40:33AM IS THAT A PART OF US OR TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY?
10:40:36AM >> HOUSING AUTHORITY.
10:40:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL RIGHT.
10:40:38AM TAMPA HEIGHTS, ANY COMMENTS?
10:40:39AM CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN WE DISCUSSED.
10:40:43AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:40:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:40:47AM I THINK YOU SEE THAT THE INPUT FROM THE BOARD IS THAT THESE
10:40:51AM CRAs ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
10:40:52AM ON TRANSPORTATION, CRITICAL ELEMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
10:40:56AM CONSISTS OF SEVERAL AREAS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CRA.
10:41:05AM AS A CITY COUNCIL WE HAVE -- THE FAIR THREE RUNS RIGHT
10:41:10AM THROUGH THE CRA.
10:41:10AM CREATION OF THE EXPANSION OF THE STREETCAR IS GOING TO GO
10:41:12AM RIGHT THROUGH A MAJOR ELEMENT OF THIS, IN FACT, PROBABLY 50%
10:41:17AM OR MORE OF THE EXPENSE IS GOING TO BE IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA
10:41:20AM GOING FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER ALL THE WAY UP TO COLUMBUS,
10:41:23AM DOWN COLUMBUS AND BACK DOWN FLORIDA.
10:41:26AM IT WILL BE A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THAT.
10:41:28AM WE'RE CONSTANTLY TALKING TO HART, AT LEAST I AM, AND WISH
10:41:32AM COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS HERE, ABOUT THE FUTURE OF MARION
10:41:35AM STREET.
10:41:36AM HOW WE'RE GOING TO REDEVELOP MARION STREET AND RECLAIM THAT
10:41:39AM FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA BECAUSE IT WAS A FAILED EXPERIMENT
10:41:41AM BY HART, UNDERUTILIZED AND IT'S PROBLEMATIC.
10:41:47AM LOTS OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
10:41:48AM THERE'S SIDEWALKS AND BIKE PATHS TO MAKE THESE AREAS MORE
10:41:52AM LIVABLE PLACE TO BE THAT WE CAN BE INVESTING MONEY.
10:41:56AM WHEN YOU DIVIDE THE AMOUNT OF SUBSIDIES PER UNIT, YOU ARE
10:42:01AM LITERALLY TALKING A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE GETTING A LOT OF
10:42:04AM MONEY.
10:42:06AM AND THE CREATION OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, IT'S NOT DOING IT.
10:42:09AM IT'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF UNITS.
10:42:11AM WE'RE NOT CREATING MAJOR APARTMENT.
10:42:13AM I WILL SAY I'LL BACK OFF A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY
10:42:17AM SUPPORTED AND ENDORSED THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ARMY NAVY
10:42:20AM AND THEN AS A CITY COUNCIL, THE ADJACENT PARKING LOT.
10:42:23AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE NEED TO SEE THAT TO THE END AND MAKE
10:42:26AM SURE THAT IS A REALLY GOOD PROJECT AND NEED TO MAKE SURE WE
10:42:29AM HAVE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO REDEVELOP THAT
10:42:32AM PROJECT.
10:42:33AM HOW DOES THAT PROJECT ENTER INTO THE MONEY WE JUST
10:42:36AM DISCUSSED?
10:42:37AM THE EXISTING PROPOSALS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT WE'LL PUT AN
10:42:40AM RFP OUT, THE $20 MILLION THAT'S LEFT IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA,
10:42:45AM HOW DOES THAT INTEGRATE WITH THE ARMY NAVY AND PARKING LOT
10:42:49AM PROPOSALS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
10:42:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVEN'T --
10:42:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW ARE WE SAVING MONEY?
10:42:53AM CAN THIS MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOW DOES THAT WORK
10:42:57AM WITH THIS PROJECT?
10:43:03AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I MAY, JUST A MOMENT.
10:43:05AM ABBYE FEELEY.
10:43:06AM BOARD, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE SUBSIDIES
10:43:08AM YET.
10:43:09AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR ALLOCATION OF THE 30% AND HOW WE
10:43:13AM WOULD LIKE TO PROGRAMMATICALLY ALLOCATE THAT.
10:43:15AM WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET.
10:43:17AM WE'LL GET THERE IN JUST A MINUTE AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK A
10:43:20AM LITTLE BIT MORE AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WHAT'S CURRENTLY
10:43:23AM HAPPENING TO US OR WHAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENING TO THE CRA
10:43:26AM TEAM IS SOMEBODY SEES THAT 30% NUMBER AND THEY SAY $10
10:43:30AM MILLION AND THEY WALK IN THE DOOR AND THEY WANT THAT $10
10:43:33AM MILLION.
10:43:34AM AND THAT WOULD WIPE OUT THE CRA FOR THAT YEAR OR IF THEY
10:43:39AM SAY, OH, WAIT, WE'LL TAKE 3 AND A HALF FOR THREE YEARS,
10:43:45AM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS THAT WITHOUT THE BOARD
10:43:49AM SAYING WE WOULD LIKE OUR 30% ALLOCATED THIS WAY, WHICH IS
10:43:53AM STEP ONE AND YOU'RE FINISHING THAT RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S
10:43:56AM FABULOUS.
10:43:57AM STEP TWO IS HERE ARE THE SUBSIDIES PER UNIT WE WANT TO FOCUS
10:44:02AM ON.
10:44:02AM THEY ARE NOT A HARD-AND-FAST RULE.
10:44:04AM WE HAVE A LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE AS WELL THAT WOULD
10:44:09AM THEN BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD.
10:44:11AM BUT THAT PUTS THE STAFF IN A POSITION TO CARRY OUT THE FUNDS
10:44:15AM IN A WAY THAT IS DEFENSIBLE IS TO SAY, NO, I'M SORRY, YOU
10:44:20AM CAN'T COME INTO EAST TAMPA AND TAKE 4.9 MILLION FOR THE NEXT
10:44:23AM THREE YEARS.
10:44:24AM THIS WILL ALLOW US TO GET TO THE MOST PEOPLE IN THE BEST
10:44:28AM WAY, I BELIEVE.
10:44:30AM BUT I'D LIKE TO LATE BEA MAKE THE PRESENTATION AND HAVE THE
10:44:34AM DISCUSSION IN JUST A MINUTE.
10:44:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:44:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ISSUE THAT'S BEFORE US RIGHT NOW ON
10:44:41AM THE DOWNTOWN, OF CORRALLING THIS MONEY, WHAT IS THE IMPACT
10:44:48AM THAT HAS ON THIS PROJECT, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ARMY NAVY
10:44:55AM STORE AND ADJACENT PARKING LOTS?
10:44:58AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT YET HONESTLY
10:45:00AM BECAUSE ONCE WE PUT THE RFP OUT AND THE RFP HAS
10:45:05AM SPECIFICATIONS IN IT AS TO THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS,
10:45:08AM NUMBER OF ARTS UNITS, THE NUMBER OF -- THAT WILL GO OUT AND
10:45:12AM WE WILL GET THOSE PROPOSALS BACK.
10:45:14AM AND WE DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE PROPOSERS ARE GOING TO BE
10:45:17AM ASKING FOR A CHUNK OF YOUR CRA 30% IN THE DOWNTOWN YET.
10:45:22AM THEY COULD.
10:45:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS IT TYING OUR HANDS TODAY?
10:45:25AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO.
10:45:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS IT GOING TO BIND TO US SOMETHING THAT
10:45:28AM WILL PREVENT US FROM REDEVELOPING OR HAVING ACCESS TO THE
10:45:32AM $20 MILLION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT PROJECT?
10:45:35AM >> NO.
10:45:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:45:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:45:40AM COUNCILS BEFORE US, THIS COUNCIL AND COUNCILS IN THE FUTURE
10:45:44AM AND ALL THOSE THAT HAVE WORKED IN YOUR AREA, SPECIFIC VALUE
10:45:51AM TO TALKING ABOUT, VERY DIFFICULT FOR THIS COUNCIL, WHEN YOU
10:45:58AM REINVENTING A CITY AND MAKING IT LOOK DIFFERENT ALL AT THE
10:46:01AM SAME TIME FOR MANY YEARS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ICE CREAM
10:46:03AM VANILLA.
10:46:04AM IT'S GOING TO BE HARD WORK.
10:46:06AM I'VE GOT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CRAs, ALL OF THEM, THE
10:46:09AM PEOPLE WHO GAVE THEIR TIME TO GO OUT AND MEET REGULARLY TO
10:46:14AM MAKE SURE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS GOT WHAT THEY NEED, THE CRA
10:46:19AM MEMBERS, HEADS OF THE CRA, DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION THAT WE
10:46:22AM WORKED FOR, AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE VERY DIFFICULT
10:46:24AM TO DO.
10:46:25AM THAT BEING SAID, IT JUST, GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, I BELIEVE
10:46:30AM THAT THE STREETCAR SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW AND GOING BY MEMORY,
10:46:33AM GOING BACK TO THE '90s NOW, I THINK COST $11 MILLION.
10:46:37AM YOU CAN VERIFY THAT.
10:46:38AM I'M NOT SURE I'M CORRECT.
10:46:40AM $11 MILLION DOESN'T GO TWO BLOCKS NOW.
10:46:43AM IN FACT, WE WERE CHARGED $500,000 ACROSS A RAILROAD TRACK SO
10:46:47AM WOULDN'T HIT A TRAIN.
10:46:49AM WHAT ARE THE ODDS WE'LL HIT A TRAIN IF ONE STOPS?
10:46:53AM WE STOP AT ALL RAILROAD CROSSINGS, THE STREETCAR DOES.
10:46:57AM I THINK 300, 350,000.
10:47:01AM HELL OF A DEAL THERE.
10:47:05AM JUST AMAZING THINGS WITH THE COST OF VALUE FROM WHEN IT
10:47:09AM STARTED IN THE '90s TO 2024 AND NOW 2025.
10:47:14AM YOU CAN'T BUY A GALLON OF MILK WHICH YOU DID THEN.
10:47:18AM HOW WILL YOU REINVENT A CITY IF IT AIN'T COSTING TEN TIMES
10:47:22AM OR MORE.
10:47:24AM VALUE COST PERTAINING TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
10:47:26AM AND THESE THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE.
10:47:28AM I DON'T CARE IF IT'S 80%, 60%, 100%, 140%, THEY HAVE ALL
10:47:33AM GONE UP IN VALUE ENORMOUSLY.
10:47:36AM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE FACED WITH.
10:47:38AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THE CHANGES FOR.
10:47:44AM BUT LIKE I SAID AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, WE MESSED UP AND WE
10:47:48AM CHANGED FROM THE CITY TRANSIT LINE TO HARTLINE BECAUSE NOW
10:47:52AM IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S CONTROL, NOT OURS.
10:47:54AM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
10:47:55AM NUMBER TWO, WE HAD OVER 50 MILES OF STREETCAR AND STREETCARS
10:48:00AM WERE OPERATING.
10:48:01AM IN THE '50s, WE TOOK OUT THE OPERATIONAL PART OF IT AND
10:48:07AM STREETCAR DISAPPEARED.
10:48:08AM IN THE MID '60s, WE TOOK THE STREET LANES, WHERE THEY
10:48:14AM WALK, THE METAL PART THAT IS STILL THERE, SO WHAT DO WE HAVE
10:48:19AM LEFT?
10:48:20AM OLD IS NEW AND NEW IS OLD AT THE SAME TIME.
10:48:23AM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY, IT'S VERY HARD TO DO THAT.
10:48:26AM MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE MR. CARLSON TELL ME HOW TO DO THESE
10:48:30AM THINGS 25 YEARS AGO SO WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
10:48:33AM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
10:48:33AM WE'RE FACED WITH A DILEMMA THAT WE HAVE TO SOLVE.
10:48:36AM CERTAINLY, IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.
10:48:38AM ALWAYS SHOULD BE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION BECAUSE THIS IS A
10:48:41AM DEMOCRACY.
10:48:41AM THANK YOU.
10:48:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. PARKS, PLEASE CLOSE OUT YOUR
10:48:44AM PRESENTATION.
10:48:46AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON ALL.
10:48:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:48:48AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YOU VOTED ON THAT.
10:48:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DID.
10:48:50AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AND ALSO ON THE STRATEGY.
10:48:52AM THAT'S ALL DONE, CLOSED OUT.
10:48:55AM THANK YOU.
10:48:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. PARKS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
10:48:58AM PRESENTATION.
10:48:58AM IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD?
10:49:01AM >> YES, I'LL GO THROUGH THE PART TWO, WHICH IS THE SUBSIDY.
10:49:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ONLY VOTED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
10:49:09AM CHANNEL -- SO IF SHE NEEDS US TO VOTE ON ALL OF THE BUDGET,
10:49:13AM I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR THE
10:49:20AM HOUSING OF ALL CRAs.
10:49:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:49:23AM BEA, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD?
10:49:26AM >> I'LL GO OVER THE SUBSIDIES.
10:49:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT.
10:49:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION, REMOVING
10:49:32AM CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE
10:49:34AM AGAINST THOSE TWO AND VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE OTHERS.
10:49:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALREADY HAVE A SECOND, MOTION AND
10:49:41AM SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
10:49:44AM THAT WAS YOUR DISCUSSION.
10:49:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT WE ALREADY VOTED ON DOWNTOWN
10:49:47AM CHANNELSIDE.
10:49:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, WE VOTED ON STRATEGY.
10:49:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: VOTED ON A STRATEGY FOR DOWNTOWN AND
10:49:52AM CHANNELSIDE.
10:49:52AM I'M NOT GOING TO -- NO, I'M NOT GOING TO AMEND MY MOTION.
10:49:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S NOT UP TO YOU.
10:49:59AM I MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO DIVIDE IT --
10:50:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF IT IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, HE TAKES
10:50:06AM PRECEDENT --
10:50:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION.
10:50:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THERE A SECOND?
10:50:14AM MOTION DIES.
10:50:18AM THE AMENDED MOTION DIES.
10:50:20AM NOW WE CAN GO BACK TO -- PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES, DO YOU
10:50:28AM NEED TO STATE YOUR MOTION AGAIN, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK?
10:50:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE BUDGETS.
10:50:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE SECOND CAME FROM MIRANDA.
10:50:34AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:50:35AM AYE.
10:50:36AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:50:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I VOTE NO BECAUSE OF THE DOWNTOWN
10:50:40AM CHANNELSIDE.
10:50:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION CARRIES WITH BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN
10:50:43AM VOTING NO.
10:50:44AM GO AHEAD, MS. PARKS.
10:50:51AM >> WE'RE MOVING TO PART TWO, THE CRA HOUSING SUBSIDY
10:50:54AM OVERVIEW.
10:50:55AM DISCUSSION OVERVIEW JUST LIKE ADMINISTRATOR FEELEY
10:51:01AM MENTIONED, DEVELOPERS ARE CONTINUING TO APPROACH THE
10:51:05AM DIFFERENT CRAs FOR HOUSING FUNDS.
10:51:07AM CURRENTLY, THERE ARE NO PROGRAM GUIDELINES ON HOW TO
10:51:10AM EVALUATE THESE REQUESTS.
10:51:12AM FOR EXAMPLE, SEVERAL DEVELOPERS HAVE APPROACHED THE CRA
10:51:17AM REQUIRING THE ENTIRE 30% ALLOCATION FOR PROJECTS EXPANDING
10:51:22AM OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
10:51:23AM IN COLLABORATION WITH HCD AND INDUSTRY PARTNERS, WE'VE
10:51:28AM DEVELOPED A MATRIX TO PROVIDE PARAMETERS FOR REVIEW OF CRA
10:51:32AM FUNDING REQUESTS.
10:51:32AM HERE IS THE MATRIX.
10:51:38AM AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WHAT WE HAVE IS AN AREA MEDIAN INCOME
10:51:43AM CHART STARTING AT 30% ALL THE WAY UP TO 140%.
10:51:46AM NOW, THE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, WHICH IS THE 30 TO 80% AMI,
10:51:52AM AS YOU KNOW, IT SHOWS IN THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT
10:51:55AM THIS IS THE GREATEST NEED FOR HOUSING AT THE MOMENT.
10:51:58AM SO IT DOES HAVE THE HIGHER SUBSIDY AMOUNT.
10:52:01AM SO BASED OFF OF 30% UNIT, THE MAX IS 350 FOR THAT UNIT.
10:52:09AM AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE DIVIDED IT AMONGST THE BEDROOM
10:52:12AM COUNTS, SO IT'S STUDIO OR ONE BEDROOM, 300, TWO BEDROOM,
10:52:17AM 300, THREE BEDROOM AND THEN FOUR BEDROOM AT THE MAX OF 350.
10:52:23AM AGAIN UP TO, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS.
10:52:26AM AGAIN, 50%, YOU SEE THAT AT 275 FOR A STUDIO AND ONE
10:52:32AM BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM AND -- TWO BEDROOM AND THEN THE THREE
10:52:36AM BEDROOM AT 325 PER UNIT.
10:52:39AM AND THEN THE FOUR BEDROOM AT 325 BECAUSE THE NEED IS FOR
10:52:43AM FOUR BEDROOMS AS WELL.
10:52:44AM 80% JUST GIVING YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT INCOME FOR A
10:52:49AM HOUSEHOLD OF FOUR AT 76,000 PER YEAR, THE STUDIO AND ONE
10:52:54AM BEDROOM IS AT THE 250 PER UNIT, TWO BEDROOM 250 AND THEN FOR
10:52:58AM THE THREE AND FOUR, WE HAVE THEM AT 300K PER UNIT.
10:53:03AM THEN WHEN WE GO UP TO THE 120% AMI, AGAIN, 120 AND 140 IS
10:53:11AM THE WORKFORCE POPULATION.
10:53:14AM WE'RE AT THE 125 FOR THE STUDIO AND ONE BEDROOM.
10:53:20AM THE TWO BEDROOM, AND THEN WE INCREASE IT TO 175 PER UNIT FOR
10:53:25AM THE THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM.
10:53:28AM AGAIN, THE 140% AMI POPULATION, WHICH IS SUBSIDIZING THOSE
10:53:35AM UNITS AT 75,000 ACROSS THE BOARD.
10:53:38AM AGAIN, WHEN WE PUT MONEY INTO THE TRANSACTION, WE THEN
10:53:43AM RESTRICT THAT UNIT FOR A 50-YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD WHICH
10:53:48AM YOU CAN SEE IS OVER THE LIFE OF THE CRA.
10:53:51AM AGAIN, PRESERVING THOSE UNITS.
10:53:53AM THIS CAME FROM -- THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED OFF OF THE SHIP
10:53:58AM MAXIMUM SUBSIDY THAT, OF COURSE, THAT HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
10:54:02AM DEVELOPMENT PUT TOGETHER THROUGH THEIR LHAP TO THE STATE.
10:54:08AM THE MAXIMUM AFFORDABILITY AMOUNT SET PER UNIT WAS THE 350.
10:54:13AM OF COURSE, AS WE KNOW, THE AREA OF THE GREATEST NEED IS AT
10:54:16AM THE 80% AND BELOW.
10:54:19AM SO THIS IS THE MATRIX THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
10:54:22AM NOW, HOW DOES THE MATRIX WORK?
10:54:24AM SO, LOOKING AT TWO EXAMPLES HERE, SO WITHIN THE CRA
10:54:30AM GUIDELINES, AGAIN, WE WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOMETHING
10:54:36AM THAT WE CAN SAY YES, NO, OR MAYBE.
10:54:38AM IN THIS CASE, THE FIRST, APPROACHING US WITH $4.5 MILLION
10:54:45AM ASK TO PRODUCE 20 UNITS FOR 80% AFFORDABILITY AND, OF
10:54:52AM COURSE, 50 YEARS OF THAT PERIOD, $4.5 MILLION DIVIDED BY 20
10:54:57AM UNITS EQUALS 225 PER UNIT.
10:55:01AM THAT PROJECT WILL COST.
10:55:02AM IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MATRIX, AGAIN, AND THIS IS FOR THE ONE
10:55:06AM AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
10:55:09AM IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MATRIX, THEN YOU CAN SEE FOR A ONE TO
10:55:13AM TWO BEDROOM UNIT, IT'S UNDER THE 250.
10:55:16AM SO IN THIS CASE, THIS WILL BE A YES FROM US SAYING, YES ARE,
10:55:20AM IT FALLS UNDER IT.
10:55:22AM WE CAN DO IT.
10:55:23AM WE HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR IT.
10:55:25AM SO LET'S GO.
10:55:26AM LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT.
10:55:29AM A NO EXAMPLE, IF THEY COME TO US AND AGAIN, FOR THE SAME
10:55:33AM AMOUNT OF UNITS FOR 80% AMI, NOW REQUESTING $6 MILLION FROM
10:55:40AM US.
10:55:40AM SO 6 MILLION DIVIDED BY 20 UNITS, WE'RE LOOKING AT 300K PER
10:55:46AM UNIT.
10:55:47AM AGAIN, THEY ARE JUST PRODUCING THE ONE TO TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
10:55:52AM IF YOU COME OVER HERE, THAT ACTUALLY EXCEEDS THE ONE TO TWO
10:55:57AM BEDROOM, IF YOU CAN SEE THAT, BECAUSE THE MAX IS 250.
10:56:01AM AGAIN, THIS WILL BE A NO, IT GOES OVER.
10:56:06AM WHAT HAPPENS IF IT IS A MAYBE?
10:56:07AM MOVING ON TO THIS SLIDE, THE REASON FOR THE MATRIX IS TO SET
10:56:12AM THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
10:56:14AM THEY ARE KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR EVERY SINGLE DAY.
10:56:18AM WHAT WE WANTED TO BRING OVER TO THE BOARD IS DISCUSSING LIKE
10:56:24AM A 20% AMOUNT FLEXIBILITY FOR THE MAXIMUM.
10:56:30AM SO THAT MEANS THAT IF IT DOES, IS WITHIN THAT 20% LIKE AREA
10:56:38AM BETWEEN THE MAXIMUM IS 250 AND THEN 20%, KIND OF BETWEEN
10:56:42AM THAT 20%, WE STILL WANT TO LOOK AT THAT PROJECT.
10:56:47AM IF THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DEVELOPERS KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR IN
10:56:50AM DREW PARK OR NOT A LOT OF CREATIVE HOUSING OPTIONS, THAT'S
10:56:55AM WHAT THE CRA DOES, WE LOOK AT CREATIVE PROJECTS AND WE MOVE
10:56:58AM IT FORWARD.
10:56:58AM THIS JUST ALLOWS US WITH BOARD DISCUSSION TO HAVE LIKE A 20%
10:57:04AM FLEXIBILITY AMOUNT TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
10:57:07AM IT'S STILL A MAYBE DEPENDING ON THE NEED OF THAT CRA.
10:57:10AM THE MATRIX ULTIMATELY CREATES A DIVERSIFIED INVENTORY OF
10:57:16AM UNITS.
10:57:17AM AGAIN, THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX WITH DIFFERENT TYPE OF
10:57:20AM AFFORDABLE UNITS AND HOME TYPES, SIMULATES MORE CRA TIF
10:57:25AM FUNDING.
10:57:26AM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE FUNDING TO
10:57:29AM PUSH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND INCENTIVES MIXED INCOME
10:57:34AM CREATING A MORE DIVERSE COMMUNITY.
10:57:37AM THAT'S WHERE THE C IN CRA STANDS FOR, COMMUNITY.
10:57:40AM ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SUBSIDY?
10:57:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:57:45AM AND BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:57:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST -- I THINK YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS
10:57:52AM A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
10:57:53AM THE RESEARCH YOU DID WAS OUTSTANDING.
10:57:54AM PUTTING IN THE SHIP NUMBERS AND ALL THAT.
10:57:58AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING A LONG TIME.
10:58:00AM THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE HAD IS THAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED THIS IN A
10:58:06AM COUPLE OF GREAT EXAMPLES, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT DEVELOPERS
10:58:08AM COME IN AND SAY I NEED $15 MILLION AND ANOTHER SAYS I NEED
10:58:11AM $10 MILLION.
10:58:12AM WELL, WHICH ONE IS BETTER?
10:58:13AM WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO CRITERIA.
10:58:15AM IT ULTIMATELY WOULD GET DOWN TO THE PRICE PER UNIT, BUT THEN
10:58:20AM THEY SAY, WELL, WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THEN IT'S
10:58:22AM 140% AMI WHICH IS WORKFORCE HOUSING, NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:58:26AM SO THERE'S NO WAY TO COMPARE APPLES AND APPLES IN THIS
10:58:31AM PROCESS.
10:58:33AM THIS I THINK IS A GREAT ANALYSIS, BENCHMARK AGAINST LOCAL
10:58:39AM AND NATIONAL STANDARDS OF WHAT THE RATES SHOULD BE.
10:58:42AM WHAT IT SHOULD DO IS GET RID OF THE BLIND REQUEST.
10:58:48AM IF THEY WANT A DIFFERENT KIND OF THING, LIKE AN EXTERIOR
10:58:51AM GRANT OR SOMETHING, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
10:58:56AM THE STAFF IN THE PAST HAVE FELT KIND OF BULLIED BY
10:58:59AM DEVELOPERS WHO SAY I WANT TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD, WE WON'T
10:59:05AM PROVE ANYTHING ANYMORE IF IT IS A FLAT NUMBER.
10:59:07AM WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPMENT.
10:59:11AM WE'RE NO LONGER I HOPE WORKING ON THE EDIFICE COMPLEX.
10:59:15AM BY STATE LAW, ONE OF THE PRIMARY NAMED THINGS WE CAN DO IS
10:59:19AM SUBSIDIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:59:20AM SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO.
10:59:23AM I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU PUT 50 YEARS.
10:59:25AM SOME OF THE PROPOSALS IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN 30 YEARS.
10:59:29AM YOU PUT 50 IN AS A CONSTANT.
10:59:31AM GREAT THING YOU ALL ADDED.
10:59:32AM MOST IMPORTANT THING, YOU SAID IT HERE, DIVERSITY OF
10:59:35AM INVENTORY, WE HAVE SMALL NONPROFITS AND SMALL DEVELOPERS WHO
10:59:40AM WANT TO DEVELOP.
10:59:42AM IN THE PAST THEY HAVE CALLED THE CITY AND NOT THE STAFF WHO
10:59:44AM IS HERE BUT STAFF -- WELL, YOU HAVE TO PARTNER WITH THIS BIG
10:59:49AM DEVELOPER.
10:59:49AM THE COMMUNITIES HAVE COMPLAINED, WHY IS IT THAT ONE
10:59:51AM DEVELOPER WILL GET A HUNDRED UNITS OR A THOUSAND UNITS?
10:59:54AM PART OF THAT IS THE CHASE TO TRY TO GET NUMBERS.
10:59:58AM BUT WE KNOW FROM LOTS OF RESEARCH THAT INTENSE SPATIAL
11:00:02AM SEGREGATION OF POVERTY IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.
11:00:04AM WE NEED DIVERSITY OF INCOMES.
11:00:08AM SMALL DEVELOPER, SMALL NONPROFIT CAN BUILD A QUAD OR A
11:00:12AM DUPLEX OR A BIGGER DEVELOPER CAN BUILD A HUNDRED UNITS OR
11:00:16AM 200 UNITS.
11:00:17AM NOW IN THE SAME PLAYING FIELD.
11:00:19AM HAVE THE SAME PRICE.
11:00:20AM THEY ALL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE -- SORRY, NOT NEGOTIATE.
11:00:23AM COME IN AND SEE, HERE IS THE CHART, HOW MANY UNITS YOU PUT
11:00:26AM IN.
11:00:26AM OUR BUSINESS IS TO LOOK AT THEM, EVALUATE THEM AND MAKE SURE
11:00:30AM THEY DID THE RIGHT THING.
11:00:32AM LAST THING I'LL ADD, TAKE OUT THE 20%.
11:00:38AM I THINK YOU NEED A BETTER REASON TO SAY NO.
11:00:41AM I THINK IT SHOULD BE A FLAT NO.
11:00:42AM HERE IS OUR CHART.
11:00:43AM IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK AND GET US AN UPDATE OF THE CHART
11:00:46AM WITH DIFFERENT FIGURES, THEN GET US UPDATED CHART.
11:00:50AM YOU SHOULD HAVE THE POWER TO SAY NO OTHERWISE 20% WILL BE
11:00:54AM THE NEW NORM.
11:00:55AM EVERYBODY WILL ASK FOR THE 20%.
11:00:57AM I THINK IT'S BETTER NOT TO INCLUDE THAT, JUST HAVE THE
11:00:59AM CHART.
11:00:59AM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN DOING THIS.
11:01:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:01:03AM I'M SORRY.
11:01:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A DEVELOPER JUST AN INDIVIDUAL OR COMPANY
11:01:10AM THAT HAS A NAME.
11:01:11AM THAT COMPANY DOESN'T, HAVE IN MOST CASES, SAID MOST CASES,
11:01:14AM 20 ACRES OF LAND WITH PLUMBERS AND ELECTRICIANS, THEY HAVE A
11:01:18AM CONTACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR MANY YEARS THAT
11:01:21AM DO DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
11:01:23AM WHEN YOU DIG THE HOLE, SOMEBODY DOES THE FOUNDATION.
11:01:25AM PUT THE SAND IN, THE SECOND PHASE OF THE FOUNDATION AND SLAP
11:01:28AM IT DOWN AND THEN THE PLUMBER COMES IN AND MESSES UP WHAT
11:01:31AM THEY PUT DOWN, HE PUTS IN THE PLUMBING AND THEN THEY START A
11:01:35AM PROCESS.
11:01:36AM THE CONCRETE PEOPLE COME ON TOP OF THAT AND FILL IT UP.
11:01:40AM SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE DONE BY DIFFERENT COMPANIES,
11:01:43AM DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE TIED IN AS A UNIT AS THEY
11:01:46AM SHOULD BE TO MAKE SOMETHING ON TIME AND ON BUDGET.
11:01:49AM IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO IT, BUT IT'S NOT DIFFICULT TO TRY TO DO
11:01:54AM IT.
11:01:55AM WE HAVEN'T TRIED TO DO IT.
11:01:57AM THAT'S MY OPINION BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN VERY BUSY TRYING TO DO
11:02:01AM IT.
11:02:01AM THAT'S HOW THESE THINGS GO.
11:02:03AM I'M NOT OPPOSING WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID BECAUSE
11:02:09AM THAT SHOULD BE THE NEW NORM.
11:02:10AM YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTACT AND GET BIDS FROM DIFFERENT
11:02:14AM INDIVIDUALS, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, WHAT COLOR YOU ARE, HOW
11:02:18AM SKINNY OR HOW HANDSOME OR UGLY YOU ARE, ALL OF IT.
11:02:22AM PUT TOGETHER AND YOU GET THAT SCOPE AND BASE IT ON WHAT THEY
11:02:25AM PRODUCE FOR THE FINAL PRODUCT AND THAT'S WHO GETS IT.
11:02:28AM IT'S DIFFICULT I KNOW.
11:02:30AM TIME-CONSUMING, I KNOW, BUT IT IS THE FAIREST THING I KNOW.
11:02:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK FOLLOWED BY BOARD
11:02:35AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:02:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, I WAS LAST.
11:02:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, YOUR TURN.
11:02:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE GRANTED STAFF'S REQUEST OF THE 20%,
11:02:46AM THERE'S $20 MILLION IN DOWNTOWN, WE COULD CREATE 48 UNITS,
11:02:53AM 48 UNITS IN DOWNTOWN AND SPEND $20 MILLION, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:02:57AM $410,000 A UNIT WITH 20% INCREASE, 350, WITH 20%, $410,000
11:03:13AM SUBSIDY PER UNIT.
11:03:16AM 350 PLUS 20%, THAT'S 60, 70 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
11:03:23AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF YOU DID ALL FOUR BEDROOM UNITS, AT THE
11:03:27AM MAXIMUM SUBSIDIZATION --
11:03:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF A DEVELOPER CAME THROUGH AND SAID
11:03:34AM DEVELOP -- ACTUALLY LESS THAN 48.
11:03:38AM LET'S SAY 47.
11:03:40AM DEVELOPER CAME THROUGH AND SAID WE'LL DEVELOP A PROJECT WITH
11:03:44AM 47 UNITS OF THREE BEDROOM UNITS, STAFF WOULD HAVE THE
11:03:47AM AUTHORITY TO SAY WE DO THAT AND WE WOULD SPEND $20 MILLION
11:03:50AM ON 47 UNITS.
11:03:53AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO.
11:03:54AM BECAUSE IN THE MOTION YOU JUST MADE YOU ALLOCATED 5.3
11:03:58AM MILLION TO CREATION AND CONVERSION.
11:04:00AM RIGHT NOW THERE IS A $5.3 MILLION BUCKET THAT WOULD BE THE
11:04:05AM BUCKET THAT WOULD BE USED WHEN THESE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN TO
11:04:09AM MAKE A REQUEST FOR US TO PARTNER WITH THEM IN A PROJECT LIKE
11:04:12AM THE ARMY NAVY OR LIKE SOMETHING ELSE.
11:04:16AM WE'VE HAD A COUPLE IN DOWNTOWN COME IN.
11:04:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WOULD CREATE 12 UNITS FOR --
11:04:23AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF YOU ASSUMED ALL UNITS WERE FOUR BEDROOM
11:04:26AM UNITS AT THE 350, THEN AT THE 30% AMI, WHICH IS THE LOWEST
11:04:36AM OF THE LOW, THEN, YES, THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT.
11:04:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE STAFF'S AUTHORITY.
11:04:41AM IF COMPANY XYZ WANTED TO COME IN AND PICK THE POCKETS OF THE
11:04:47AM TAXPAYERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, A DEVELOPER COULD COME IN
11:04:51AM AND SAY I WANT TO BUILD 12 UNITS, 12, THREE BEDROOM UNITS
11:04:56AM AND I WANT $350,000 APIECE, THEY WOULD FIT WITHIN THIS
11:05:00AM MATRIX.
11:05:01AM IF THE MONEY WAS AVAILABLE, STAFF COULD SAY YES.
11:05:04AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO, STAFF WOULD SAY, YES, WE'LL TAKE YOUR
11:05:07AM APPLICATION.
11:05:08AM THAT IS WHAT THEY WOULD SAY AND THEN IT WOULD COME TO THIS
11:05:10AM BOARD AND THIS BOARD COULD THEN SAY, NO --
11:05:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT LEGAL AUTHORITY DO WE HAVE TO SAY NO
11:05:15AM IF THEY ARE WITHIN THE MATRIX WE APPROVED?
11:05:17AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE MATRIX IS SIMPLY A GUIDELINE SYSTEM FOR
11:05:20AM US TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN TO MAKE A REQUEST,
11:05:25AM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'VE SEEN A REQUEST COME IN AT $650,000 A
11:05:29AM UNIT AND I DON'T HAVE ANY GUIDELINE TO SAY TO THEM, NO, I'M
11:05:33AM SORRY, THE CRA BOARD HAS ESTABLISHED THESE MINIMUM
11:05:38AM GUIDELINES FOR US TO TAKE IN APPLICATIONS AND WE'LL TAKE IN
11:05:40AM THOSE APPLICATIONS AND THEN TAKE IT TO THE BOARD.
11:05:44AM THE BOARD COULD SAY, IN RELATION TO OUR PURPOSE AND INTENT
11:05:47AM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE DO NOT WANT TO PUT OUR FULL 5.3
11:05:51AM MILLION INTO ONE PROJECT.
11:05:53AM WE ARE GOING TO SEEK TO DIVERSIFY THAT AND THEN YOU WOULD
11:05:57AM HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
11:05:58AM BUT THIS STOPS WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS SAYING OR BOARD
11:06:02AM MEMBER CARLSON, I'M SORRY, TO SAY WHERE THEY ARE JUMPING
11:06:08AM OVER STAFF AND SAYING I WANT TO SEE THE BOARD REGARDLESS,
11:06:11AM AND THEY ARE COMING TO YOU, AND THEN YOU ARE SEEING REQUESTS
11:06:14AM FOR 750,000 A UNIT OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE
11:06:20AM A BALANCED REQUEST SYSTEM SO THAT THERE ARE EXPECTATIONS AS
11:06:24AM TO THE FUNDS OF THIS BOARD AND HOW THOSE FUNDS WILL GO OUT
11:06:28AM INTO THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:06:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE RECORD AND FOR POSTERITY WHEN WE
11:06:35AM ARE SITTING HERE FUTURE DATES AND NEXT COUNCIL IS SIGNATURE
11:06:37AM HERE OR CRA BOARD, EXCUSE ME, I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
11:06:40AM UNDERSTANDS WE HAVE CONSENSUS THAT THESE ARE THE MAX AND IT
11:06:44AM IS NOT IMPLIED CONSENT.
11:06:47AM THIS IS SOMETHING -- THIS IS JUST A THRESHOLD FOR YOU ALL TO
11:06:50AM BE ABLE TO REJECT BEFORE WE GET IT AND THERE'S NO IMPLIED
11:06:54AM CONSENT THAT THIS BOARD OR A FUTURE BOARD IS OBLIGATED OR
11:06:57AM WILL EVEN APPROVE HALF OF THIS TYPE OF A SUBSIDY FOR ANY ONE
11:07:01AM INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT.
11:07:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU MAKE THAT AS A MOTION?
11:07:09AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE HAD THE
11:07:11AM DISCUSSION.
11:07:12AM WHEN YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND MAKE THE MOTION, IF THAT IS
11:07:14AM THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD, I WOULD, AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS
11:07:16AM SAYING, MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION THAT THESE ARE
11:07:19AM GUIDELINES FOR APPLICATION ACCEPTANCE.
11:07:21AM THEY ARE NOT FOR THAT APPROVAL.
11:07:25AM I DID BRING TO YOU SOME PROJECTS, THE ADDERLEY, BELMAR, SO
11:07:30AM YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN TERMS OF 250 AND 350 ON
11:07:34AM PROJECTS WE'VE PARTNERED ON, WOULD NOWHERE NEAR IT.
11:07:37AM BUT IN YOUR HOTTEST MARKETS OR HIGHEST MARKETS IN THE
11:07:40AM DOWNTOWN AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AND EVEN IN CENTRAL PARK I
11:07:43AM THINK YOU SAW ONE COME IN AT 637 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:07:48AM WE WANT TO BE MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHERE THE STATE AND
11:07:52AM FEDERAL HOUSING GUIDELINES ARE AND TO GIVE YOU THAT ABILITY
11:07:55AM TO SAY, THIS IS OUR GUIDELINE AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING
11:07:57AM TO OPERATE UNDER.
11:08:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE A MOTION --
11:08:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN YOU LET US GET THROUGH THE COMMENTS
11:08:04AM FIRST?
11:08:04AM BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION.
11:08:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
11:08:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DID THAT.
11:08:11AM BUT FOR FLUIDITY, BECAUSE BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA I THINK
11:08:15AM WANTED TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING ELSE TO PIGGYBACK.
11:08:18AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK FOLLOWED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:08:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:08:22AM THIS HELPS US BUT ALSO HELPS YOU.
11:08:25AM IT HELPS YOUR STAFF BEING ABLE -- YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT WORK.
11:08:31AM MAY NOT WORK PERFECTLY BUT THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF BEING ABLE
11:08:33AM TO COME AND TALK ABOUT CHANGE.
11:08:36AM WHATEVER MOTION HAPPENS, I WOULD HOPE THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT,
11:08:42AM SAY, NEXT YEAR'S ALLOCATION, WHEN WE APPROVE THE BUCKETS,
11:08:46AM THAT WE ALSO BRING THIS BACK BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE
11:08:50AM WILL BE.
11:08:50AM THINGS MAY BE GREAT STILL.
11:08:52AM THINGS MAY BE LESS GREAT.
11:08:54AM SO WE WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THESE SUBSIDY AMOUNTS.
11:08:58AM I THINK THAT BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT IT LEAST ON A YEARLY
11:09:01AM BASIS IS JUST GOOD PRACTICE.
11:09:04AM SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION.
11:09:07AM LOVE THE 50-YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD.
11:09:10AM I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
11:09:11AM MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION WITH THIS, AND THIS IS JUST A RANDOM
11:09:16AM QUESTION.
11:09:16AM I NOTICED 100% AMI IS NOT ON HERE.
11:09:20AM I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DEVELOPERS DON'T ASK
11:09:23AM FOR, IT'S NOT A NORMAL ASK OR IF THERE IS A REASONING FOR
11:09:27AM THAT.
11:09:28AM >> IT MIGHT BE AN OVERSIGHT, BUT BASED OFF OF SHIP INCOME
11:09:33AM THAT'S PROVIDED, THE 30 TO 140 PERCENT IS PROBABLY AN
11:09:36AM OVERSIGHT.
11:09:37AM BUT I CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE --
11:09:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD 100% BE?
11:09:43AM WHAT WOULD THE SUBSIDIES BE?
11:09:46AM AGAIN, THE ONLY REASON I ASK, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS KIND OF
11:09:49AM -- I MEAN, GOING FROM 80 TO 120 IS A 40% INCREASE.
11:09:53AM THAT'S RATHER LARGE.
11:09:56AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK WE JUST FORGOT IT.
11:09:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
11:10:00AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN AN OVERSIGHT.
11:10:03AM ONE THING, THOUGH, IN TERMS OF COMING BACK ANNUALLY, AS
11:10:06AM CEDRIC AND MS. PARKS AND MYSELF WERE WORKING ON THIS FOR THE
11:10:10AM PAST FEW MONTHS TOGETHER, WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO YOU
11:10:15AM IN YOUR JULY MEETING, WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF
11:10:18AM WHERE WE ARE.
11:10:19AM MAKING THIS EFFORT TODAY, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU --
11:10:22AM AND EVEN IF IT IS, WELL, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY
11:10:24AM APPLICATIONS SINCE THAT OR WHATEVER, I THINK WE'RE ON THE
11:10:27AM SAME PAGE WITH YOU AS TO THE FLUIDITY OF THIS.
11:10:30AM ONE THING WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS COME BACK TO YOU EACH
11:10:33AM MONTH AND MOVE THE LINE ITEMS BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO SEE HOW
11:10:36AM THIS ALLOCATION WORKS.
11:10:38AM SO WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK IN JULY AND PROVIDE THAT, SHOW
11:10:42AM YOU IN CONTEXT OF EACH OF THE CRAs WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHAT
11:10:45AM THOSE PROJECTS ARE, AND, OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE GETTING THOSE
11:10:49AM APPLICATIONS IN BETWEEN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THEM BECAUSE
11:10:51AM THEY ARE COMING TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.
11:10:53AM THAT WOULD BE INSTEAD OF WAITING A WHOLE YEAR, WE WOULD LIKE
11:10:57AM TO COME BACK THEN.
11:11:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WORKS TOO.
11:11:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE
11:11:03AM CRA AND HOUSING SUBSIDY MATRIX COME BACK AND AFTER THE JULY,
11:11:08AM WE HAVE LIKE A WEEK AND A HALF OR SO, AFTER THE 10th OF
11:11:12AM JULY, YEAR 2025, MATRIX AND THE OPERATION, HOW IT'S BEEN SET
11:11:16AM UP AND HOW THEY ARE PROGRESSING IN MAKING THEIR GOALS.
11:11:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:11:22AM IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
11:11:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS JUST A MOTION TO SET UP AN UPDATE.
11:11:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:11:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.
11:11:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:11:37AM >> AYE.
11:11:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OPPOSED?
11:11:38AM THE MOTION CARRIES.
11:11:42AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF NO 20%.
11:11:47AM SO WAS THAT THE MOTION, THAT THE MAXIMUMS AS SHOWN ARE WHAT
11:11:50AM WE'RE GOING TO START WITH NOW UNTIL THE JULY PERIOD?
11:11:53AM I THINK I MISSED THAT PORTION.
11:11:56AM BECAUSE WE HAD PUT IN THERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW THAT
11:11:59AM FLEXIBILITY.
11:12:00AM I HEARD FROM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON THAT YOUR OPINION WAS
11:12:06AM LET'S JUST STOP IT THERE.
11:12:08AM I THINK WE WERE PUTTING EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE.
11:12:11AM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HAVING THE DISCUSSION.
11:12:13AM WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO.
11:12:14AM I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, IF YOU GIVE THE WIGGLE
11:12:20AM ROOM, SOMEBODY WILL TAKE IT AND SAY THAT'S THE AMOUNT.
11:12:26AM WE'RE COOL WITH THAT TOO.
11:12:27AM JUST LET US KNOW.
11:12:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK HIM TO AMEND TO
11:12:33AM PUT THE OTHER STUFF ON?
11:12:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:12:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MATRIX AS A
11:12:46AM GUIDELINE FOR THE MAXIMUM SUBSIDIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:12:52AM WITH THE ADDITION OF WHAT MR. CLENDENIN --
11:12:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE A SECOND AND MOTION TO AMEND.
11:13:01AM I MOTION TO AMEND THAT -- STRIKE THE 20% ALLOCATION AND THAT
11:13:08AM THIS IS -- THIS MOTION IS A GUIDELINE FOR STAFF FOR
11:13:14AM PRE-APPROVAL AND BY NO MEANS, MEANS THAT THE CITY CRA IS
11:13:19AM GOING TO APPROVE AT THESE RATES.
11:13:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THERE A SECOND?
11:13:24AM >> SECOND.
11:13:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, AMENDED
11:13:27AM MOTION AND SECONDED.
11:13:27AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:13:28AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:13:29AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:13:31AM I APOLOGIZE PUBLICLY.
11:13:33AM I SHOULD HAVE LET YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION.
11:13:35AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:13:40AM GREAT WORK.
11:13:42AM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND THE BRIEFING WE HAD YESTERDAY ON
11:13:44AM THAT.
11:13:45AM CRA ATTORNEY, MR. SHEPHARD, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY FROM
11:13:51AM A LEGAL STANDPOINT REGARDING ANYTHING WE JUST DISCUSSED?
11:13:53AM OKAY.
11:14:03AM >> WE CAN'T HEAR HIM IF HE'S TALKING.
11:14:06AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: I COULDN'T GET MYSELF -- NO, MA'AM.
11:14:10AM IT WAS FASCINATING, BUT I'M GOOD.
11:14:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I GET AN APPROVAL FOR 7, 8, 9, 10?
11:14:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 7, 8, 9, 11.
11:14:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR REQUIRED APPROVAL.
11:14:21AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:14:23AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:14:24AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:14:25AM THOSE APPROVALS CARRY.
11:14:30AM WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO FIRST?
11:14:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. PARKS WASN'T FINISHED.
11:14:40AM >> FINISH THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I WANT TO SHARE SOME
11:14:42AM GREAT NEWS HERE.
11:14:43AM I WANT TO DISCUSS THE CRA -- THE FIRST-EVER EAST TAMPA CRA
11:14:50AM INFILL PROGRAM.
11:14:52AM AGAIN, THE TAMPA CRA WILL BE SOLICITING PROPOSALS FROM
11:14:56AM QUALIFIED DEVELOPERS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, MARKETING, AND
11:14:59AM SELLING OF SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
11:15:03AM HOMES ON INFILL LOTS WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
11:15:07AM AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOTS STILL AVAILABLE.
11:15:08AM I'M HOPING THAT THE PROPOSED RELEASE DATE NO LATER THAN
11:15:13AM APRIL OF 2025.
11:15:14AM RFP WILL INCLUDE 14 LOTS, DENSITY ALLOWS FOR UP TO 28 UNITS
11:15:21AM FOR THAT.
11:15:21AM THE PROGRAM IS INTENDED TO ELIMINATE SLUM AND BLIGHT BY
11:15:28AM PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCOME
11:15:31AM ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS OR HOUSEHOLDS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:15:35AM OPPORTUNITIES CAN ATTRACT, AS YOU KNOW, NEW BUSINESSES,
11:15:39AM INVESTMENTS IN RESIDENTS TO THE AREA SPARRING ECONOMIC
11:15:42AM DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION.
11:15:44AM RFP WILL PROVIDE TO HOUSEHOLDS AT 140% AMI AND UNDER.
11:15:54AM THIS PROGRAM WILL HELP, AS YOU KNOW, TEACHERS, FIRST
11:15:57AM RESPONDERS AND THE OVERALL WORKFORCE POPULATION.
11:16:00AM SO THIS IS VERY EXCITING.
11:16:03AM WE'VE HAD THESE LOTS AND NEED TO PUT THEM OUT.
11:16:06AM I'M HOPING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT BY APRIL.
11:16:09AM ANOTHER ITEM, I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE APPROVAL OF
11:16:14AM THE SUBSIDIES BECAUSE NOW BUSINESS IS OPEN ALONG WITH THAT,
11:16:21AM ME AND MY STAFF WERE RUNNING INTO ISSUES AS IT CONCERNS THE
11:16:26AM DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR ALL AREAS, NOT JUST EAST TAMPA.
11:16:29AM BEFORE THE PREVIOUS BOARD APPROVED THE EAST TAMPA DOWN
11:16:34AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE BY ITSELF.
11:16:36AM I'M LOOKING FOR SOME TYPE OF MOTION OR APPROVAL TO ALIGN THE
11:16:44AM TAMPA CRA HOUSING DIVISION WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA HOUSING
11:16:48AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT INTEGRATING THE HOUSING
11:16:52AM REHAB PROGRAM DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND THE INFILL
11:16:57AM DEVELOPMENT ACROSS ALL OF THE CRA DISTRICTS.
11:16:59AM I DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE.
11:17:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, FOLLOWED BY BOARD
11:17:03AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:17:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY THING YOU'RE ASKING FOR HERE IS TO
11:17:09AM HAVE THE SAME CRITERIA -- SORRY, NOT THE SAME CRITERIA, THE
11:17:15AM SAME --
11:17:16AM >> PROCESS.
11:17:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: PROCESS.
11:17:18AM SO THAT IF SOMEONE CALLS IN AND WANTS HELP WITH HOMEOWNER
11:17:22AM OCCUPIED REHAB, SOMEONE COULD TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN
11:17:28AM FEED IT TO EITHER REGULAR HOUSING OR CRA HOUSING.
11:17:33AM >> CORRECT.
11:17:33AM THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW.
11:17:35AM WHEN A PERSON COMES IN FOR THE APPLICATIONS THAT CAME IN FOR
11:17:38AM THE HRRP PROGRAM, WE ARE LOOKING AT, OF COURSE, THE ADDRESS
11:17:43AM WHICH THEN DETERMINES THAT IT'S WITHIN THE CRA.
11:17:47AM IF IT'S CITY, WE DO ROUTE TO THE HOUSING INDIVIDUALS AT THE
11:17:53AM DEPARTMENT WHO DO THE REHAB WORK.
11:17:55AM YES, IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN ALIGN WITH THOSE
11:17:59AM PROGRAMS BECAUSE THOSE SYSTEMS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
11:18:03AM HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING
11:18:06AM WELL.
11:18:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND WHAT WE AREN'T DOING IS GIVING ANY EXTRA
11:18:11AM -- WE AREN'T LETTING ANY OF THE CRA QUESTIONS, WE'RE NOT
11:18:17AM GIVING THAT TO THE CITY.
11:18:18AM WE'RE JUST ALIGNING IT SO WE'RE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS IN
11:18:22AM EACH OF THESE THREE BUCKETS AND ONLY THESE THREE BUCKETS.
11:18:27AM >> YES.
11:18:29AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CEDRIC McCRAY, INTERIM CRA DIRECTOR.
11:18:31AM IF I COULD PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE, SO IN EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE A
11:18:34AM RELATIONSHIP WITH HCD CURRENTLY THAT ALLOWS US TO STACK
11:18:37AM FUNDS FOR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
11:18:39AM DEPENDING ON WHAT AMI THEY FALL IN THAT CATEGORY, WE CAN DO
11:18:44AM UP TO $50,000.
11:18:46AM HCD MAY BE 15 OR 30.
11:18:49AM THEY ARE ABLE TO STACK THE DOLLARS AND WE HAVE THAT
11:18:51AM RELATIONSHIP CURRENTLY IN EAST TAMPA, BUT WE NEEDED TO MAKE
11:18:54AM SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT ACROSS ALL THE CRA AREAS
11:18:58AM THAT HAVE THOSE APPROVED PROGRAMS.
11:19:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO
11:19:07AM REITERATE MY SUPPORT FOR, THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT, CREATION
11:19:13AM OF THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, TALKED ABOUT IN VAGUE BECAUSE
11:19:17AM OF REASONS THAT THE DIRECTOR SPOKE ABOUT, BUT I THINK
11:19:22AM EXPANSION OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE COMMERCIAL
11:19:24AM DISTRICTS IS VERY IMPORTANT SO THAT WE HAVE THESE HIGHER
11:19:27AM DENSITY AREAS WE CAN HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREAS AND
11:19:32AM AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE WANT.
11:19:34AM I REALLY SUPPORT THIS PROCESS.
11:19:36AM I SUPPORT THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
11:19:38AM SUPPORT INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
11:19:40AM IF -- I MAKE A MOTION TO ALIGN TAMPA CRA HOUSING DIVISION
11:19:44AM WITH HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO INCLUDE
11:19:46AM THE PROGRAMS AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR HRRP, DPA AND
11:19:51AM INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
11:19:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION AND SECOND.
11:19:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE MAYBE AN AMENDMENT?
11:19:55AM I THINK WE NEED TO MAINTAIN -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN
11:20:00AM AMENDMENT THAT ANY CRA -- ANY CRA FUNDING OF PROJECTS WILL
11:20:05AM BE SEPARATELY IDENTIFIED SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT IS
11:20:11AM CRA, WHAT IS CITY PROJECTS.
11:20:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
11:20:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY DISCUSSION?
11:20:16AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:20:17AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:20:18AM THE MOTION CARRIES.
11:20:21AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:20:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR
11:20:27AM DEPARTMENT.
11:20:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TEAMWORK.
11:20:31AM APPRECIATE THAT.
11:20:32AM LET'S DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 10, THE EAST TAMPA CAC
11:20:37AM APPOINTMENTS FOR MS. WHITE AND MASS HALSALL.
11:20:44AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT FURTHER?
11:20:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: I GOT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THE
11:20:50AM ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS THAT SOME POSITIONS WERE ALLOCATED FOR
11:20:55AM NEIGHBORHOODS AND THERE WERE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT STAFF
11:20:57AM TOLD ME DID NOT IMMEDIATELY RESPOND.
11:21:01AM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WANT US TO GIVE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS
11:21:04AM AN EXTRA 30 DAYS.
11:21:06AM SO THEY ARE ASKING US JUST TO DELAY IT.
11:21:08AM IF THE NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T RESPOND, THEN IT'S OPEN TO ANYONE
11:21:11AM FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
11:21:12AM SO WE CAN STILL CONSIDER -- WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING OR REJECTING
11:21:16AM THE APPLICANTS, IT'S GIVING THE NEIGHBORHOODS ONE MORE
11:21:18AM CHANCE TO RESPOND.
11:21:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. McCRAY, DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON
11:21:22AM THIS?
11:21:22AM I KNOW YOU ARE VERY MUCH APPRISED OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
11:21:25AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES.
11:21:27AM WE'VE ADVERTISED AND SENT THE APPLICATIONS OUT TO THE
11:21:31AM VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS.
11:21:32AM AND WE STARTED RECRUITMENT BACK IN SOMETIME LATE SPRING,
11:21:36AM EARLY SUMMER, TO THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE NEXT ON
11:21:39AM THE LIST THAT YOU ALL APPROVED LAST YEAR.
11:21:42AM A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS WERE NOT RESPONSIVE EITHER TO
11:21:46AM PHONE CALLS AND/OR E-MAILS.
11:21:47AM SO WE THEN IN THE MONTHS OF OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, DECEMBER,
11:21:51AM ACTUALLY WORKED WITH OUR CACs AND ADVERTISING, HEY, IF YOU
11:21:56AM KNOW SOMEONE, BECAUSE THE WAY THINGS ARE WRITTEN, IF WE ARE
11:21:59AM NOT GETTING RESPONSE FROM THOSE DESIGNATED NEIGHBORHOODS,
11:22:01AM THEN THOSE POSITIONS GO AT-LARGE.
11:22:05AM WE SOLICITED APPLICATIONS AND WE GOT BACK WHAT WE GOT BACK.
11:22:10AM YOU ALL HAVE SEEN APPLICATIONS COME BEFORE YOU IN RECENT
11:22:13AM MONTHS AND ALL OF THOSE FOLKS EITHER LIVE AND/OR WORK OR
11:22:17AM HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN EAST TAMPA OR WEST TAMPA OR DREW
11:22:20AM PARK, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
11:22:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF THE
11:22:28AM APPLICANT AND THE THREATENING, YOU KNOW, CALLS,
11:22:32AM COMMUNICATION THAT WAS RECEIVED BY ONE OF OUR APPLICANTS.
11:22:36AM THAT IS NOT HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS.
11:22:38AM WE AS A BOARD DO NOT SUPPORT THAT.
11:22:39AM I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE AND TO SAY THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE A
11:22:45AM PART OF THIS AND YOU ARE APPROVED, THEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE
11:22:47AM OUR BLESSING THROUGH OUR APPROVAL.
11:22:49AM SO WE DO NOT ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO BE PLACED IN A POSITION
11:22:54AM WHERE THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WANTING TO SUPPORT THEIR
11:22:56AM COMMUNITY.
11:22:57AM IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE --
11:23:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
11:23:02AM I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
11:23:02AM IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, THIS STARTED IN THE SUMMER OF '24.
11:23:10AM IT'S BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER,
11:23:13AM WHENEVER IT WAS, WHAT MONTH, THESE ARE THE TWO AT THE END
11:23:17AM THAT GOT SELECTED, AM I CORRECT?
11:23:19AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CORRECT.
11:23:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE TIME.
11:23:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THERE A SECOND?
11:23:24AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:23:24AM AYE.
11:23:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:23:27AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:23:28AM THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
11:23:31AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:23:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS GOING TO ASK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU
11:23:37AM WERE TALKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO.
11:23:38AM MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY MORE.
11:23:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE APPLICANT RECEIVED THREATENING
11:23:44AM COMMUNICATION INDICATING THAT THEY SHOULD NOT SERVE.
11:23:49AM I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER INVESTIGATION.
11:23:51AM FROM AN INDIVIDUAL.
11:23:52AM I CAN'T SAY WHO.
11:23:54AM WE'VE HANDED THAT INFORMATION OVER, WHAT IS AVAILABLE, OVER
11:23:57AM TO TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHERE THAT
11:24:01AM COMMUNICATION CAME FROM.
11:24:02AM BUT I JUST WANTED TO INDICATE PUBLICLY THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT
11:24:06AM THAT, THREATS, BECAUSE SOMEONE WANTS TO SERVE THEIR
11:24:09AM COMMUNITY EVEN IF SOMEONE ELSE FEELS DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THAT.
11:24:12AM FILE NUMBER CRA 25-11191, THE WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT.
11:24:32AM IT IS ON THE APPROVAL LIST, BUT WE DID PULL IT.
11:24:34AM IT IS A $10 MILLION PROJECT.
11:24:36AM ANY DISCUSSION?
11:24:39AM I KNOW YOU PULLED IT.
11:24:42AM YOU GET TO GO FIRST.
11:24:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW WHERE MS. SHARP WENT.
11:24:47AM THERE SHE IS.
11:24:54AM I WANTED TO START BY SAYING I KNOW THIS IS A $10 MILLION.
11:25:05AM MR. McCRAY, IF I'M CORRECT, THEY ARE ASKING FOR
11:25:08AM $3.3 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS.
11:25:09AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:25:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT IS A GREAT PLACE TO START.
11:25:13AM I DIDN'T QUITE GIVE THIS TO HER, BUT WE WENT AHEAD AND
11:25:17AM PULLED THE BUDGET.
11:25:21AM I WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE APPROVING HERE.
11:25:30AM ON THE BOARD, THIS THE BUDGET FOR WEST TAMPA.
11:25:35AM THIS YEAR, THEY MADE $8.9 MILLION.
11:25:38AM THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE BRINGING IN FOR FY '2025.
11:25:41AM IF YOU TAKE $3.3 MILLION OFF OF THAT, YOU END UP WITH 5.6.
11:25:49AM 5.6 MILLION.
11:25:51AM SO WHAT WE DID IS PULLED THE REQUEST
11:25:57AM FOR ALL THE TYPES OF WORK THAT WEST TAMPA IS ASKING TO DO.
11:26:00AM THIS IS THE CAC'S.
11:26:02AM THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT THEY WANT TO DO.
11:26:05AM SALCINES PARK IMPROVEMENT, $1.3 MILLION, RAY PARK
11:26:09AM IMPROVEMENT, $4 MILLION, BUYING PROPERTY, STREET OPENING,
11:26:15AM MOVES QUICK BUILD PROJECT, FLIP IT, PLEASE.
11:26:17AM WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH THE HISTORIC PROPERTY INVENTORY
11:26:23AM STUDY IS GOING TO BE.
11:26:24AM ALLEYWAY STUDY.
11:26:25AM DECORATIVE GRADING.
11:26:29AM HART STOP.
11:26:30AM ARTS PROJECT, ADA PROGRAM.
11:26:32AM YOU CAN SEE ON THE STATUS WHERE THEY ARE IN TERMS OF ON
11:26:34AM TRACK VERSUS NOT STARTED.
11:26:36AM THE LAST TWO.
11:26:36AM MAIN STREET CORRIDOR STUDY AND THE GROUND MURALS.
11:26:39AM SO TOTALING ALL OF THIS IS $7.6 MILLION, WHICH IS MUCH LESS
11:26:44AM THAN THE $5.6 MILLION THAT THEY GOT THIS YEAR.
11:26:49AM AND THAT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDING THESE BIG PROJECTS THEY WANT,
11:26:51AM WHICH IS THE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR STUDY, GROUND MURALS.
11:26:54AM IF YOU COULD PUT IT BACK WHERE WE HAVE THE YELLOW
11:26:57AM HIGHLIGHTED.
11:26:58AM THE FREMONT LINEAR PARK, A HUGE EXPENSE.
11:27:04AM FLIP IT OVER.
11:27:05AM THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES INVENTORY STUDY, WHICH IS VERY
11:27:08AM IMPORTANT WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR WEST TAMPA.
11:27:11AM SO I'M JUST SAYING TAKING $3.3 MILLION OUT OF THIS BUDGET
11:27:17AM FOR THREE YEARS WILL SET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS BACK, AND I
11:27:20AM AM NOT OKAY WITH THAT.
11:27:22AM I'M JUST GOING TO -- THESE ARE JUST NUMBERS AND WHY I DO NOT
11:27:27AM SUPPORT TAKING $10 MILLION OUT OF A CRA THAT SIMPLY CANNOT
11:27:31AM AFFORD IT.
11:27:32AM THANK YOU.
11:27:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:27:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'VE SEEN FOLKS LIKE MS. FENTON WHO CAME,
11:27:45AM VERY WELL-RESPECTED LEADER IN WEST TAMPA WHO CAME IN DEFENSE
11:27:47AM OF WEST TAMPA.
11:27:48AM THIS WAS NOT STARTED AS A WEST TAMPA PROJECT.
11:27:51AM ONLY AFTER THERE WAS OPPOSITION THAT IT SUDDENLY WAS
11:27:53AM DISCUSSED AS A WEST TAMPA PROJECT OR WEST TAMPA AMENITY.
11:27:56AM WHAT IT REALLY IS A VANITY PROJECT OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:28:00AM EACH ADMINISTRATION HAS PROJECTS THAT THEY TAKE CREDIT FOR,
11:28:03AM THAT THEY LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
11:28:06AM BUT ALSO, THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT THIS IS AN AMENITY FOR
11:28:10AM DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO DEVELOP A FEW SPOTS ALONG THE
11:28:12AM RIVERWALK.
11:28:13AM ALL THE OTHER STUFF, THE SIDEWALKS, THE BIKE LANES, ALL THAT
11:28:17AM STUFF, ALL THAT IS PUT IN TO TRY TO GET POLITICAL SUPPORT
11:28:20AM AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A WEST TAMPA PROJECT OR SO THAT IN
11:28:23AM SOME MAILER IN THE FUTURE THEY CAN SAY, OH, WELL, SO AND SO
11:28:29AM VOTED AGAINST THIS BECAUSE THEY DON'T SUPPORT WEST TAMPA.
11:28:29AM WE OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT WEST TAMPA.
11:28:29AM IT IS A CHOICE OF WHAT DO WE SUPPORT WEST TAMPA ON?
11:28:31AM DO WE SUPPORT IT ON THE THINGS THAT THE CAC WANTS, WHICH IS
11:28:35AM WHAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST SAID, OR DO WE PUT IT BASED ON WHAT A
11:28:37AM FEW DEVELOPERS AND THE ADMINISTRATION WANT?
11:28:40AM JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T SHOW UP TODAY FROM WEST TAMPA TO
11:28:44AM ARGUE AGAINST IT, DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE NOT AGAINST IT.
11:28:46AM WE'VE HAD SOME IN THE PAST.
11:28:48AM BUT, FRANKLY, THEY ARE WORRIED BUS PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO
11:28:51AM AGAINST THE ADMINISTRATION, DON'T WANT TO GO AGAINST
11:28:53AM DEVELOPERS.
11:28:54AM THIS PROJECT IS NOT OVERALL A GOOD USE OF MONEY, BUT
11:28:57AM ESPECIALLY NOT USING CRA MONEY.
11:29:01AM WHEN YOU NET OUT THE FEDERAL SUBSIDY, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE
11:29:11AM $30 MILLION, 25, $30 MILLION THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN.
11:29:16AM 26.
11:29:17AM IT'S BEING BONDED.
11:29:20AM AGAIN, I'VE TALKED TO SOME OTHER GOVERNMENTS IN THE STATE OF
11:29:22AM FLORIDA, AND WE WERE SAYING BEFORE THAT 41% ON THE
11:29:27AM ENTERPRISE FUND AND ON THE GENERAL FUND, BONDING IS OKAY.
11:29:30AM OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES THINK THAT'S A HORRIBLE ABUSE OF
11:29:34AM POWER TO HAVE SO MUCH DEBT.
11:29:35AM AND NOW WE'RE ADDING, ADDING, ADDING.
11:29:37AM AT TODAY'S RATE, 26 MILLION MEANS $52 MILLION.
11:29:42AM AND WHY WOULD WE SPEND $52 MILLION ON SOMETHING THAT IS NICE
11:29:48AM TO HAVE THAT'S AN AMENITY?
11:29:49AM IF THEY SEPARATE IT AND SAID WE WANT YOU TO PAY FOR BIKE
11:29:53AM LANES AND OTHER THINGS WEST TAMPA, VOTE FOR IT.
11:29:58AM BUT A RIVERWALK, WHICH SOME PARTIES DON'T WANT, I DON'T
11:30:01AM SUPPORT THAT.
11:30:03AM IN THE FUTURE, GREAT TO HAVE A RIVERWALK ON THE WEST SIDE.
11:30:06AM RIGHT NOW ROADS ARE FALLING APART.
11:30:07AM HAVEN'T DONE PROPER MAINTENANCE ON THE STORMWATER SYSTEM IN
11:30:10AM IT LOOKS LIKE DECADES, EVEN THOUGH A NEW TAX WAS PASSED.
11:30:13AM ALL KINDS OF MAJOR PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE WANT.
11:30:15AM IF WE HAVE SO MUCH MONEY, IF WE CAN BOND $26 MILLION, LET'S
11:30:19AM BOND MONEY TO FIX THOSE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE WANT.
11:30:22AM WHY ARE WE DOING SOMETHING JUST SO WE CAN ADD IT TO A VIDEO
11:30:25AM IN TWO YEARS TO SAY LOOK AT WHAT WE ALL ACCOMPLISHED?
11:30:27AM I'D RATHER BE ABLE TO TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED
11:30:30AM WAS GETTING YOUR ROADS PAVED AND PROTECTING YOUR HOUSES FROM
11:30:34AM GETTING FLOODED.
11:30:35AM THANK YOU.
11:30:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME JUST SPEAK ON THIS FOR A SECOND.
11:30:43AM YBOR CITY HAD THREE THINGS.
11:30:49AM TUMBLEWEED, ALCOHOLIC, DRUG ADDICTS AND PROSTITUTION YEARS
11:30:54AM BACK.
11:30:55AM THAT'S BEEN SOMEWHAT FIXED.
11:30:57AM GAMBLE BACK IN THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION BACK IN THE '90s.
11:31:04AM CONVENTION CENTER WAS BUILT WITHOUT A CONVENTION HOTEL.
11:31:12AM THAT WAS A SMART MOVE.
11:31:14AM WE WERE LOSING FOUR TO FIVE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
11:31:16AM ON ANOTHER SMART MOVE, REAL SMART MOVE, MAYOR GRECO GOT THE
11:31:22AM MARRIOTT WATERFRONT WITH THE SALESMANSHIP -- WASN'T EVEN THE
11:31:28AM TOP 100 TO GET IT BUILT.
11:31:30AM THAT BROUGHT ON WHAT?
11:31:31AM INSPIRATION OF OTHER HOTELS.
11:31:35AM GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE MARRIOTT, WE HAVE TO GO DISCOVER WHAT
11:31:38AM TAMPA HAS.
11:31:38AM SO THAT STARTED THE BUILDING OF OTHER HOTELS.
11:31:41AM WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A FIVE-STAR HOTEL.
11:31:45AM WE DO NOW.
11:31:46AM LET'S GO FURTHER.
11:31:47AM THE STRAZ CENTER.
11:31:49AM VOTED DOWN BY THE PEOPLE, YET THAT MAYOR HAD THE FORTITUDE,
11:31:55AM MAYOR MARTINEZ, TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO GET IT BUILT BECAUSE
11:31:58AM WE NEED IT.
11:31:59AM WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:32:00AM IT'S NO LONGER CIGAR CITY.
11:32:02AM IT'S NO LONGER SILVER BAR AND ALE LIKE USED TO BE IN YBOR
11:32:06AM CITY THAT MADE ONE OF THE FINEST BEERS AROUND.
11:32:08AM TAMPA IS NOT THE TAMPA THAT I GREW UP IN.
11:32:11AM LET'S GO FURTHER, WHY DO WE HAVE VISIT TAMPA BAY?
11:32:18AM THE JOB THAT THEY HAVE DONE IS SECOND TO NO ONE IN BRINGING
11:32:25AM WHO?
11:32:26AM PEOPLE WHO COME HERE BECAUSE IT IS SOLD AS A CONVENTION CITY
11:32:32AM WITH THINGS TO DO WHEN YOU COME HERE.
11:32:34AM WHY DID WE DO THAT?
11:32:37AM WHY DID WE GIVE 50 MILLION THERE?
11:32:39AM WHY DO WE NEED THE STREETCAR?
11:32:42AM SPEND 11 MILLION BACK IN THE '90s.
11:32:48AM LIKE I SAID EARLIER TODAY, YOU CAN'T BUILD STREETCAR FOR 11
11:32:52AM MILLION FROM YBOR CITY MAYBE GO TWO BLOCKS AND YOU SPENT THE
11:32:55AM 11 MILLION.
11:32:55AM WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?
11:32:59AM WHEN YOU COME FROM AN AREA THAT HAD LITTLE, NOT BECAUSE THEY
11:33:03AM WANTED TO, BECAUSE YOU TOOK ABOUT 20%, 40%, 80% AMI, THEY
11:33:08AM WERE ALL ON THE SAME LEVEL -- BROKE.
11:33:11AM SO THEY HAD THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
11:33:14AM A LOT OF DOCTORS CAME OUT OF THERE.
11:33:16AM A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS CAME OUT OF THERE, AND ALONG THAT
11:33:20AM PERIMETER WE ONLY HAD ONE PARK -- CUSCADEN PARK.
11:33:23AM BOYS AND GIRLS.
11:33:27AM THAT THING WAS RUN BY THE CITY.
11:33:28AM THERE WAS NEVER A FIGHT THERE.
11:33:36AM I FORGET JUDY'S LAST NAME, TENNIS, BEING A FANTASTIC TENNIS
11:33:48AM PLAYER.
11:33:49AM ONCE IN THE HALL OF FAME, TONY LaRUSSA.
11:33:53AM IN FACT, TWO IN THE HALL OF FAME FROM THAT PARK.
11:33:55AM THE OTHER IS AL LOPEZ.
11:33:58AM NAME ME ANOTHER PARK THAT HAS TWO PEOPLE IN THE HALL OF FAME
11:34:02AM IN BASEBALL.
11:34:03AM WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?
11:34:04AM YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOPE.
11:34:06AM HOPE HAS NO PRICE.
11:34:08AM YOU'RE LOOKING RIGHT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE AREA THAT WE'RE
11:34:12AM TALKING ABOUT.
11:34:13AM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
11:34:18AM FORGET THEM.
11:34:19AM SAY HELL WITH YOU, LIVE THERE.
11:34:24AM GO WALK IN THE RIVER DOWNTOWN.
11:34:26AM THAT IS MORE THAN LIKELY THE LAST CONNECTION BETWEEN FROM
11:34:33AM BALLAST POINT ALL THE WAY TO WEST TAMPA.
11:34:38AM AND WE NEED SOMETHING FOR THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE TO WALK ON.
11:34:42AM THEY CAN WALK ALL THE WAY AS FAR AS THEY WANT.
11:34:46AM FIVE MILES NOW, I THINK, MAYBE SIX MILES BY THE TIME IT IS
11:34:50AM FINISHED.
11:34:50AM WHAT IS THAT WORTH?
11:34:51AM WHAT IS GROWING UP AND NOT HAVING WHAT YOUR NEIGHBOR HAS,
11:35:00AM SOMETIMES DISTURBING.
11:35:02AM ME IT WASN'T.
11:35:03AM I DIDN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT HAVING ANYTHING.
11:35:06AM I JUST WANT TO GO OUT AND WORK, DO MY THING AND DO IT RIGHT.
11:35:11AM I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IT IS THE LAST LINK TO
11:35:18AM HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS BOTH IN WEST TAMPA AND IN TAMPA HEIGHTS
11:35:23AM THAT THEY CAN SEE AND FEEL SOMETHING AND NOT GET LEFT OUT.
11:35:27AM THERE IS A VALUE TO CERTAIN THINGS IN LIFE THAT MONEY CAN'T
11:35:31AM BUY, AND THAT'S HOPE, YOU WANT TO GET OUT, LEAVE AND HAVE
11:35:38AM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS DOING.
11:35:42AM YOU SEE IT AND WANT IT.
11:35:43AM YOU JUST CAN'T GET IT.
11:35:45AM THERE IS A RAILROAD TRACK THAT RUNS IN EVERY CITY OF AMERICA
11:35:48AM ONE THING IN COMMON.
11:35:50AM YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS?
11:35:51AM NO NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE SAME.
11:35:54AM EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT MIs IN IT, BUT SOME DON'T HAVE ANY.
11:35:58AM THAT'S WONDERFUL.
11:35:58AM I AGREE WITH ALL THAT.
11:35:59AM SO WHY ARE WE GOING TO SIT HERE, SAY I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE
11:36:04AM AGAINST THIS, BECAUSE IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY.
11:36:07AM WHAT DOES IT COST TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN JAIL?
11:36:09AM POSSIBILITY COULD EXIST THIS IS A BREAKING POINT TO HAVE
11:36:12AM SOMEBODY GET INSPIRATION TO STAY IN SCHOOL, TO DO THEIR
11:36:17AM DUTIES.
11:36:18AM MY PARENTS NEVER WENT TO SCHOOL.
11:36:20AM WENT TO THIRD GRADE.
11:36:22AM MORE THAN LIKELY HOLD THE RECORD GETTING EXPELLED IN MY
11:36:26AM FIRST YEAR OF SCHOOL ONLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ENGLISH.
11:36:29AM GIVE SOMEBODY A HAND UP OR A PUSH DOWN, MY VOTE IS FOR A
11:36:36AM HAND UP.
11:36:37AM THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
11:36:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN I'LL MAKE
11:36:41AM MY COMMENTS.
11:36:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL START BY SAYING AND QUOTE OUR CHAIR
11:36:46AM BECAUSE I'VE HEARD HER SAY THIS ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS, WEST
11:36:50AM TAMPA DESERVES THIS.
11:36:52AM WE INVEST IN MANY AREAS OF THE CITY AND SOME AREAS THAT WE
11:36:56AM DON'T.
11:36:57AM PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, I THINK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
11:37:02AM KIND OF ECHOED THAT IN HIS REMARKS.
11:37:05AM PART OF THIS I THINK IS A NOMENCLATURE ISSUE.
11:37:09AM SOME OF THE OPPOSITION I HEAR, THIS TITLE, THE WEST
11:37:11AM RIVERWALK MULTIMODAL NETWORK CONSTRUCTION.
11:37:15AM EVERYBODY LOOKS AT THE CURRENT RIVERWALK AND IT'S KIND OF
11:37:18AM FANCY AND WHOLE BUNCH OF BELLS AND WHISTLE.
11:37:20AM WHAT I'M SEEING IN THE RIVERWALK IS LESS BELLS AND WHISTLE
11:37:23AM AND MORE OF THE MIXED MODAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
11:37:28AM WE'RE CREATING A LINEAR PARK AND SIDEWALK THAT GIVES PEOPLE
11:37:32AM IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS AN
11:37:35AM OPPORTUNITY TO SAFELY TRANSIT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND A
11:37:39AM PLACE FOR KIDS TO GO AND WALK AND RIDE THEIR BIKES.
11:37:44AM I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A VITAL ELEMENT IN THESE
11:37:47AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:37:48AM YES, IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR CONSTRUCTION
11:37:51AM OF HOUSES.
11:37:52AM YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU LOOK IN DUNEDIN AND THEIR TRAIL SYSTEM
11:37:56AM AND YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE AMENITIES BUILT AROUND THESE
11:37:58AM THINGS.
11:38:00AM THAT WILL INCREASE TIF.
11:38:02AM GETTING LOST IN THE DISCUSSION IS HOW MUCH THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:38:05AM IS NOT PAYING FOR, THAT WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF OUTSIDE MONEY
11:38:08AM TO DO THIS.
11:38:09AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:38:12AM I THINK WE HAVE A STOP A LOT OF THE BONDING CONVERSATION,
11:38:15AM BUT THIS ONE, IT IS RELATIVELY, AGAIN, I KEEP LOOKING AT
11:38:18AM WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE, AS WELL AS
11:38:23AM WHAT IS ACTUALLY FISCALLY COMING BACK INTO THE COFFERS.
11:38:26AM I THINK THE BALANCE ON THIS PROJECT IS THERE.
11:38:29AM I THINK IT'S JUSTIFIABLE.
11:38:31AM I SEE THE VALUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:38:33AM I SEE THE VALUE FOR THE CITY.
11:38:34AM THE BEST TIME TO DO PROJECTS IS NOW.
11:38:38AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE LOOK BACK AND WE SAY HOW MUCH
11:38:44AM THE STREETCAR COST IN YEAR WHATEVER IT WAS WE BUILT THAT,
11:38:48AM CHARLIE.
11:38:49AM IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE BETTER THAN TODAY.
11:38:51AM IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE CHEAPER THAN TODAY, EVEN THOUGH THE
11:38:53AM INTEREST RATES ARE HIGHER, IT'S NEVER -- WE CAN ALWAYS
11:38:57AM REFINANCE IF INTEREST RATES COME DOWN.
11:39:00AM BUT NEVER CHEAPER THAN TODAY.
11:39:01AM THE BEST TIME TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS IS TODAY.
11:39:04AM TEN YEARS FROM NOW, PEOPLE LOOK BACK AND SAY, HOW COME YOU
11:39:07AM DIDN'T DO THAT TEN YEARS AGO?
11:39:09AM HOW COME THAT COUNCIL OR CRA BOARD DIDN'T DO THIS?
11:39:12AM WELL, TODAY IS THE DAY AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS.
11:39:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN ALL THE COMMENTS WERE DONE, I WOULD
11:39:24AM MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 6.
11:39:27AM AFTER THE COMMENTS.
11:39:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S DISTRICT 5.
11:39:34AM I CAN'T BE SILENT.
11:39:35AM FOUR OF US WENT TO THE THAN MEETING LAST WEEK.
11:39:39AM IT COMPRISED OF LEADERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:39:43AM INTERESTING ENOUGH, ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WAS VERY VOCAL
11:39:47AM ABOUT THIS BEING A VANITY PROJECT SAID SOMETHING AT THAT
11:39:51AM PARTICULAR MEETING WHICH WAS VERY INTERESTING.
11:39:53AM SHE SAID I'M NOT THAN.
11:39:54AM YOU ALL ARE THAN.
11:39:55AM WE REPRESENT WHAT YOU WANT.
11:39:57AM LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WEST TAMPA WANTS.
11:40:01AM THE CAC IS COMPRISED OF NINE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:40:04AM AND THEIR BOARD VOTED 8-2 THAT THEY WANT THIS.
11:40:07AM I'LL JUST KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
11:40:11AM 7.6 MILLION THAT BOARD MEMBER HURTAK PUT ON THE SCREEN IS
11:40:15AM NOT ALL AT ONE TIME.
11:40:17AM IT'S OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
11:40:19AM SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THEY ARE ON TIME, THEY ARE ON
11:40:22AM SCHEDULE, BUT NOT BEING SPENT ALL IN ONE YEAR SO WE ARE NOT
11:40:26AM OVER BUDGET IN THAT CAPACITY.
11:40:30AM THERE IS OTHER FUNDING THAT IS SUPPORTING THIS.
11:40:33AM VISION ZERO, IF YOU GO TO VISION ZERO AND YOU TAKE A LOOK,
11:40:37AM THE MISSION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:40:40AM IT IS TO ELIMINATE ALL ROADWAY DEATHS, LIFE-ALTERING
11:40:46AM INJURIES, WHILE ALSO INCREASING SAFETY, HEALTH, AND
11:40:51AM EQUITABLE MOBILITY.
11:40:53AM I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
11:40:55AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ON MY CAMPAIGN, A CONVERSATION I
11:40:58AM HAD ON MY CAMPAIGN.
11:40:59AM THE 4.5-MILE BAYSHORE, I WENT TO THAT PROBABLY FOR THE FIRST
11:41:04AM TIME WHEN I WAS IN MY 20s.
11:41:06AM I DIDN'T EVEN THINK THAT I HAD THE RIGHT TO EVEN BE ON THAT
11:41:10AM STREET, A STREET WHERE MY SISTER HAD TO COUNT THE CRACKS IN
11:41:13AM THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE THE CITY CARES ABOUT THAT STREET SO
11:41:16AM MUCH THAT 4.5-MILE STRIP THAT I DIDN'T EVEN THINK I HAD
11:41:20AM ACCESS TO.
11:41:21AM I KNOW THAT I HAVE ACCESS TO WEST TAMPA.
11:41:25AM I'M SURE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THE SAME WAY.
11:41:28AM IT IS ACCESSIBLE.
11:41:29AM THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO WEST TAMPA IS A REALITY FOR PEOPLE,
11:41:34AM WHEREAS, I BET YOU RIGHT NOW IF YOU DID A SURVEY AND ASKED
11:41:37AM SOME TEENAGERS THAT LOOK LIKE ME, HAVE THEY EVER WALKED
11:41:40AM BAYSHORE, THEY PROBABLY WOULD TELL YOU NO, BUT I BET YOU
11:41:44AM THEY WOULD WALK WEST TAMPA AND I BET YOU THEY WOULD TAKE
11:41:47AM THEIR GRANDMAMAS.
11:41:49AM NEVERTHELESS, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
11:41:51AM NOW I WANT TO ADDRESS THE WORD VANITY.
11:41:54AM IF YOU GO ON THE CALENDAR FOR THE ARTS MUSEUM AND FOR STRAZ,
11:41:58AM IT IS FULL.
11:41:59AM THEY ARE BUSY.
11:42:00AM THEY ARE REALLY BUSY WITHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION.
11:42:06AM AND WE GAVE THEM $50 MILLION.
11:42:08AM THAT IS VANITY.
11:42:11AM THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE, PERIOD.
11:42:17AM I THINK THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY.
11:42:19AM I COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT MR. CHAIR, MR. VIERA, YOU WANT TO
11:42:25AM MAKE A COMMENT AND YOU WANT TO MOVE A MOTION.
11:42:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:42:28AM I'M GLAD I CAME BACK IN TIME FOR THIS.
11:42:32AM I WASN'T ABLE TO LISTEN TO ALL THE COMMENTS AND EVERYTHING.
11:42:36AM WE DISCUSSED THIS A FEW TIMES.
11:42:37AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA LAST TIME BEGAN TO BRING UP THE OBVIOUS.
11:42:41AM SOMETIMES THE OBVIOUS IS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU
11:42:43AM DON'T SEE IT.
11:42:44AM THE OBVIOUS IS, THIS IS WEST TAMPA.
11:42:46AM THIS IS A WEST TAMPA THING.
11:42:49AM A PART OF TAMPA THAT IS, IN MY OPINION, IGNORED, THAT IS
11:42:54AM VERY, VERY, FILLED WITH EVERYDAY WORKING FAMILIES, WORKING
11:42:58AM CLASS FAMILIES.
11:43:00AM GREAT LEGACY, GREAT HISTORY, ET CETERA.
11:43:04AM I DON'T KNOW, SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT IN PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT
11:43:06AM CRA BEING FOR BLIGHT, SLUM AND BLIGHT.
11:43:09AM THIS HELPS THAT.
11:43:10AM THIS HELPS THAT.
11:43:11AM BOARD CHAIR HENDERSON MENTIONED $50 MILLION ON OTHER
11:43:17AM PROJECTS, THE STRAZ CENTER AND THE MUSEUM OF ART, I DIDN'T
11:43:20AM VOTE FOR THE SECOND HALF MUSEUM OF ART OR STRAZ CENTER
11:43:24AM ENTIRELY, THAT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, DOESN'T GO TO BLIGHT.
11:43:28AM THAT WAS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT BLIGHT AND THE MISSION OF
11:43:30AM THE CRA.
11:43:30AM THIS IN MY OPINION DOES.
11:43:31AM THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY.
11:43:36AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OR THE FACT THAT A
11:43:41AM LOT OF THIS, WE'RE NOT DIRECTLY PAYING FOR.
11:43:45AM THE DISPOSITIVE ISSUE ON THE TABLE IS WHETHER OR NOT WE
11:43:49AM ACCEPT MONEY FROM THE WEST TAMPA CRA FOR THIS PROJECT THAT
11:43:52AM CAN ONLY BE SPENT IN WEST TAMPA, RIGHT?
11:43:54AM NEVER BEEN ANY DISCUSSION NOR SHOULD THERE BE ON ENDING THE
11:43:57AM WEST TAMPA CRA OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE TO HELP WITH THAT.
11:44:00AM $24 MILLION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, HARD FOUGHT FOR
11:44:04AM MONEY.
11:44:05AM I'M NOT GOING TO -- SAY THIS AS WHATEVER, NOT TO BE TAKEN
11:44:10AM LITERALLY.
11:44:11AM WRITE A $24 MILLION CHECK BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
11:44:13AM AFTER WE'VE SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS ALREADY ON DESIGN AND
11:44:16AM THIS THING IS MOVING FORWARD IN WEST TAMPA WHICH HAS BEEN
11:44:19AM IGNORED IN SO MANY WAYS FOR SO LONG IS GOING TO BE LOOKING
11:44:22AM FORWARD TO IT AND EVERYTHING.
11:44:23AM THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY THIS PROJECT, WE'RE GOING
11:44:27AM TO PUT IT UP AGAINST OTHER CITY OF TAMPA PRIORITIES,
11:44:31AM EITHER-OR, I DISAGREE WITH THAT HUNDRED PERCENT.
11:44:34AM I DO.
11:44:35AM WE CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AS A CITY, AS A BIG CITY.
11:44:39AM WE'RE A BIG CITY.
11:44:40AM WE CAN DEAL WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, PARTICULARLY WHEN 60%
11:44:45AM ROUGHLY IS GOING TO BE PAID FOR BY THE CRA AND BY THE
11:44:49AM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH THE POTENTIAL OF ANOTHER FOUR TO
11:44:52AM EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS ADDITION.
11:44:53AM POTENTIAL OF THAT.
11:44:55AM FOR US TO SAY NO TO THAT AND WE'LL LET GO, TRANSFORMING
11:45:00AM PROJECT TO A PART OF TAMPA THAT'S BEEN IGNORED, IT WOULD BE
11:45:04AM IN MY OPINION MISGUIDED.
11:45:06AM I KNOW SOME OF THE FOLKS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND
11:45:10AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE BONDING ISSUE.
11:45:13AM TOTALLY WELL TAKEN.
11:45:13AM SECOND TIME I SAID IT TODAY.
11:45:15AM THINGS IN LIFE BLACK AND WHITE.
11:45:17AM THERE'S GRAY.
11:45:17AM THIS HAS SOME GRAY IN IT, OBVIOUSLY.
11:45:19AM THOSE POINTS ARE VERY, VERY WELL TAKEN.
11:45:21AM I THINK AGAIN THE GOOD VASTLY OUTWEIGHS THE BAD ON THIS.
11:45:25AM AGAIN, FOR SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS BEING USED, THOSE ARE
11:45:28AM ARGUMENTS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED PARTICULARLY ON THE
11:45:30AM BLIGHT ISSUE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE SPENT A TON OF
11:45:34AM MONEY ON OTHER PROJECTS, THIS ACTUALLY IN MY OPINION GOES TO
11:45:37AM WHAT CRA SHOULD BE DOING, THIS $10 MILLION.
11:45:39AM SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE VOTING FOR THIS.
11:45:41AM AGAIN, THIS IS A REAL WIN FOR TAMPA BROUGHT INITIALLY IN
11:45:45AM PART BY THE HARD WORK OF THE CITY OF TAMPA WORKING WITH THE
11:45:50AM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, CONGRESS WOMAN CASTOR, I THINK THIS IS
11:45:54AM GREAT.
11:45:54AM GLAD TO VOTE FOR IT.
11:45:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM 6.
11:45:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:45:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:46:02AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:46:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR LAWYER.
11:46:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. SHEPHARD.
11:46:09AM ATTORNEY SHEPHARD, ARE YOU ON THE CALL?
11:46:13AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: OKAY.
11:46:14AM NOW I AM UNMUTED.
11:46:15AM I CAN'T APPARENTLY UNMUTE MYSELF.
11:46:17AM I TRIED.
11:46:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:46:19AM THE STATE STATUTE 163.370, SUBSECTION 3, SUBSECTION B
11:46:27AM BASICALLY STATES THAT INSTALLATION, CONSTRUCTION,
11:46:32AM RECONSTRUCTION, REPAIR AND ALTERATION OF ANY PUBLICLY OWNED
11:46:36AM CAPITAL IMPROVED PROJECT IF SUCH PROJECTS OR IMPROVEMENTS
11:46:39AM WERE SCHEDULED TO BE INSTALLED, CONSTRUCTED, RECONSTRUCTED,
11:46:42AM REPAIRED OR ALTERED WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE APPROVAL OF
11:46:45AM THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN BY THE GOVERNING BODY,
11:46:50AM BASICALLY IT SAYS THAT WITH -- MY QUESTION TO YOU, AND I
11:46:59AM SENT THIS TO YOU IN E-MAIL, WAS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WAS
11:47:03AM THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS IN THE C.I.P. AND HAS BEEN THERE FOR
11:47:07AM THREE YEARS OR FOR MORE THAN THREE YEARS, WE CAN'T USE CRA
11:47:10AM FUNDING ON IT.
11:47:11AM WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY TO THAT?
11:47:15AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: I RESPONDED BECAUSE I WANTED TO GO BACK AND
11:47:19AM LOOK AT THE STATUTE, AND ALSO THERE WERE DETAILS THAT I DID
11:47:21AM NOT KNOW.
11:47:23AM I HAVE AN E-MAIL, WHICH, BY THE WAY, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE
11:47:26AM WITH WHOMEVER WANTS TO GET A COPY OF IT.
11:47:30AM I'LL CUT TO THE CHASE.
11:47:32AM I'M GOING OFF THE FOLLOWING FACTS BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE
11:47:34AM THE ONES THAT ARE RELEVANT.
11:47:36AM WEST TAMPA CRA PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY IN 2015, WEST
11:47:42AM RIVERWALK PROJECT DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL SOMETIME I THINK IN
11:47:46AM 2019, MEANING IT WAS NOT IN THE CITY'S C.I.P. IN THE THREE
11:47:51AM YEARS PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA PLAN.
11:47:55AM AND THEN THE WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT STILL IN THE C.I.P. IN
11:48:00AM 2024.
11:48:01AM IF YOU READ THE CURRENT STATUTE, WHAT IT SAYS IS, AND THIS
11:48:05AM IS -- 63.3703, THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS MAY NOT BE PAID FOR OR
11:48:14AM FINANCED BY INCREMENT REVENUES.
11:48:16AM B SAYS INSTALLATION, CONSTRUCTION, REPAIR OR ALTERATION OF
11:48:22AM ANY PUBLICLY OWNED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OR PROJECTS IF SUCH
11:48:27AM PROJECTS OR IMPROVEMENTS WERE SCHEDULED TO BE INSTALLED,
11:48:31AM CONSTRUCTED, RECONSTRUCTED, REPAIRED, ALTERED, THIS IS THE
11:48:35AM KEY, WITHIN THREE YEARS OF APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY
11:48:37AM REDEVELOPMENT PLAN BY THE GOVERNING BODY PURSUANT TO A
11:48:42AM PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PUBLIC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OR PROJECT
11:48:44AM SCHEDULE OR PLAN.
11:48:45AM BECAUSE THE C.I.P. EXCLUSION ONLY APPLIES TO PROJECTS THAT
11:48:51AM WERE IN THE C.I.P., QUOTE, WITHIN THREE YEARS OF APPROVAL OF
11:48:56AM THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND BECAUSE THAT CONDITION
11:49:00AM IS NOT PRESENT UNDER WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING HERE, THIS
11:49:04AM EXCLUSION DOES NOT APPLY TO THE FACTS AS I UNDERSTAND THEM.
11:49:08AM ANY OF THE FACTS ARE WRONG, THEN THE ANALYSIS COULD BE
11:49:11AM DIFFERENT.
11:49:12AM BUT THOSE ARE THE FACTS I WAS PROVIDED BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE
11:49:16AM ANY OF THEM SO I HAD TO GO OUT AND GET THEM.
11:49:18AM THOSE FACTS ARE CORRECT, THIS IS AN OKAY EXPENDITURE.
11:49:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TALKED ABOUT
11:49:23AM THAT BECAUSE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF TIMES.
11:49:25AM THANK YOU.
11:49:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE 6.
11:49:29AM >> SECOND.
11:49:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:49:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:49:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:49:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:49:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:49:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:49:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:49:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:49:42AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON AND HURTAK VOTING
11:49:44AM NO.
11:49:45AM WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:49:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, MA'AM, NONE.
11:49:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, MA'AM.
11:49:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, MA'AM.
11:49:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
11:49:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HURTAK?
11:50:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:50:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:50:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:50:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE ONE.
11:50:05AM I HAVE A MOTION -- CAN I MAKE A MOTION FOR A COMMENDATION
11:50:12AM DURING CRA?
11:50:13AM I CAN'T.
11:50:14AM THAT'S TONIGHT.
11:50:15AM OKAY.
11:50:16AM THAT'S TONIGHT.
11:50:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE THE TAMPA COMMUNITY
11:50:21AM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY HOUSING SUBSIDY MATRIX IN THE AGREED
11:50:26AM UPON AMOUNTS DETERMINED BY THE CRA BOARD AS OF JANUARY 16,
11:50:30AM 2025.
11:50:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRWOMAN HENDERSON,
11:50:33AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:50:34AM ANY DISCUSSION?
11:50:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M CONFUSED.
11:50:40AM HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE?
11:50:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALREADY DID IT.
11:50:43AM DARLENE, WHY ARE YOU HANDING ME THIS?
11:50:46AM WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT.
11:50:52AM WE GOT IT.
11:50:58AM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:51:00AM >> SECOND.
11:51:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:51:04AM >> AYE.
11:51:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MEETING ADJOURNED.
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