TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 23, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:07:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:07:47AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:07:49AM ORDER.
9:07:49AM AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO WISH COUNCIL MEMBER LUIS VIERA
9:07:53AM A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
9:07:55AM TODAY IS THE DAY.
9:07:57AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:08:00AM ¶ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ¶
9:08:02AM ¶ HAPPY BIRTHDAY, COUNCILMAN VIERA ¶
9:08:06AM ¶ HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU ¶
9:08:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:08:09AM AT THIS TIME I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR THE
9:08:11AM INVOCATION.
9:08:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
9:08:16AM WE HAVE JARSHEKIA KOWALEWSKI AND PLUS ONE SPEAKING TODAY.
9:08:24AM ORIGINALLY HAILS FROM SHELBY, NORTH CAROLINA.
9:08:27AM BUT AFTER 20 YEARS AND COUNTING OF ACTIVE DUTY SERVICE, THE
9:08:31AM ARMY BROUGHT HER AND HER FAMILY TO SOUTH TAMPA IN 2019.
9:08:34AM JARSHEKIA IS THE PRESIDENT OF SOUTHTOWN PARK HOMEOWNER
9:08:38AM ASSOCIATION AND PROUD MEMBER OF AMERICAN LEGION POST 138.
9:08:42AM SHE IS MARRIED TO HER HUSBAND, STEVE, A RETIRED GREEN BERET.
9:08:46AM THEY HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN TOGETHER, PENELOPE, TWO --
9:08:51AM IS THAT THE TWO-YEAR-OLD?
9:08:52AM NO.
9:08:54AM THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A TWO-YEAR-OLD.
9:08:55AM -- AND SEVEN-MONTH-OLD SAMPSON.
9:09:05AM SHE IS ALSO A BONUS MOM TO CAROLINE, 17, AND NATALIA, 15.
9:09:12AM PLEASE STAND AND WE'LL DO THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF
9:09:15AM ALLEGIANCE.
9:09:16AM >> DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, LORD, FOR
9:09:20AM BLESSING US ALL WITH THE GIFT OF LIFE TO BE HERE THIS
9:09:22AM MORNING.
9:09:23AM LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS AMAZING CITY THAT WE LIVE IN.
9:09:26AM LORD, I ASK THAT YOU BLESS THE LEADERS OF THIS CITY, FROM
9:09:30AM THE CITY MAYOR TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE AIDES, THE STAFF,
9:09:33AM THE WORKERS THAT MAKE THE CITY GO AROUND.
9:09:36AM LORD, EVEN BLESS THE PEOPLE THAT INVEST THEIR TIME TO
9:09:39AM REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE.
9:09:41AM LORD, I ASK THAT YOU BLESS OUR LEADERS WITH THE GIFT OF
9:09:45AM DISCERNMENT AND BLESS THEM WITH YOUR WISDOM.
9:09:47AM I PRAY, LORD, FOR A PRODUCTIVE SESSION TODAY WHERE WE ALWAYS
9:09:52AM KEEP IN MIND THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
9:09:55AM LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FOR AND CARE FOR
9:09:59AM THOSE WHO HAVE LOST A LOT DURING THE DEVASTATING HURRICANES.
9:10:04AM WE HAVE COMPLETE FAITH IN YOU THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE FOR
9:10:07AM THOSE.
9:10:07AM LORD, WE ALSO PRAY FOR PROTECTION OVER OUR CITY AS
9:10:12AM GASPARILLA COMES UP.
9:10:13AM LORD, WE PRAY FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS
9:10:15AM THAT THEY ALWAYS MAKE IT HOME AS PROMISED AT THE END OF THE
9:10:18AM NIGHT.
9:10:19AM IN YOUR MIGHTY NAME WE PRAY, LORD, AMEN.
9:10:24AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:10:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:10:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:10:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:10:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:10:43AM >> HENDERSON?
9:10:43AM VIERA?
9:10:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:10:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:10:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:10:46AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:10:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:50AM MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REVIEW THE RULES AND
9:10:53AM PROCEDURES OF PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:10:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
9:10:57AM COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:10:58AM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO REVIEW THE
9:11:00AM CONDUCT OF TODAY'S MEETING AND GO OVER VERY BRIEFLY THE
9:11:05AM RULES OF DECORUM.
9:11:06AM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE
9:11:09AM START OF THE MEETING AFTER THE CEREMONIAL ITEMS, YOU'LL HAVE
9:11:13AM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE
9:11:16AM THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON THE ITEM.
9:11:18AM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE
9:11:22AM ARE SPEAKER CARDS OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS AND A BOX TO PLACE
9:11:26AM THEM IN.
9:11:27AM WE ASK YOU USE ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
9:11:30AM CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
9:11:33AM COMMENT.
9:11:34AM YOU CAN DO THAT UNTIL THE END OF CEREMONIAL.
9:11:37AM EACH WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME BY THE CHAIR TO APPROACH AND
9:11:39AM SPEAK.
9:11:39AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
9:11:42AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL
9:11:45AM NOT BE CALLED.
9:11:46AM IF YOU ARE HERE ON TODAY'S AGENDA TO SPEAK AT WHAT IS
9:11:49AM DESIGNATED ON THE AGENDA AS A PUBLIC HEARING, DON'T USE THE
9:11:53AM SPEAKER CARD.
9:11:53AM THERE IS A SIGN-IN SHEET INSTEAD.
9:11:55AM AND YOU WILL BE CALLED AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN THAT
9:11:58AM PUBLIC HEARING IS CALLED UP ON THE AGENDA.
9:12:01AM NOW, SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED
9:12:06AM THAT YOU ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
9:12:09AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:12:12AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS
9:12:16AM THAT ARE DISTRACTING.
9:12:17AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
9:12:20AM PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR
9:12:23AM MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
9:12:25AM PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.
9:12:28AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:12:32AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED AND PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH
9:12:34AM THE COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AT THE
9:12:38AM CHAIR AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM
9:12:41AM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S MEETING.
9:12:44AM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
9:12:47AM SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:12:49AM AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT
9:12:52AM TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:12:56AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:12:59AM THANK YOU.
9:12:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:13:00AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 9,
9:13:03AM 2025 AND THE EVENING SESSION OF JANUARY 16?
9:13:05AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:13:06AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:13:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:09AM AYE.
9:13:09AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:13:10AM ALL RIGHT.
9:13:10AM WITH SOME HOUSEKEEPING, I'LL GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS.
9:13:14AM NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE PER CHIEF BENNETT, THAT'S CORRECT?
9:13:17AM ALL RIGHT.
9:13:19AM ITEM 56, DO WE NEED SOMEBODY HERE IN PERSON?
9:13:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T THINK SO.
9:13:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
9:13:26AM ALL RIGHT.
9:13:26AM HOW ABOUT 57?
9:13:27AM NO.
9:13:30AM NO ON 56, NO ON 57.
9:13:32AM HOW ABOUT 58?
9:13:33AM NO.
9:13:34AM AND 59?
9:13:36AM NO.
9:13:40AM ITEM 60?
9:13:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
9:13:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES ON 60.
9:13:45AM MS. FEELEY IS GOING TO BE HERE TO PRESENT A VERBAL REPORT.
9:13:50AM YES ON 60.
9:13:51AM ITEM 61?
9:13:52AM YES.
9:13:53AM ABSOLUTELY.
9:13:53AM ITEM 62, YES.
9:13:57AM ITEM 63 YES.
9:14:00AM ITEM 64, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO AUGUST 1, 2025.
9:14:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, IF I MAY FOR THAT ONE, NO, I SPOKE TO
9:14:10AM STAFF.
9:14:11AM THAT SEVEN-MONTH CONTINUANCE WHICH I RESPECTFULLY WOULD NOT
9:14:14AM AGREE TO.
9:14:16AM I CAME TO STAFF AND WE AGREED TO EITHER MARCH 6 OR THE
9:14:19AM 27th.
9:14:20AM THEREFORE MARCH 6.
9:14:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 64 TO
9:14:24AM MARCH 6 FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
9:14:27AM MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:29AM AYE.
9:14:30AM 65 AND 66 WE BROUGHT THIS UP AT THURSDAY NIGHT'S HEARING TO
9:14:33AM REMOVE THESE FROM THE AGENDA.
9:14:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY SOMETHING?
9:14:38AM 66, I TALKED TO FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES LAST NIGHT AND
9:14:43AM THIS HAS BEEN CONTINUED LIKE EIGHT TIMES.
9:14:46AM I THINK IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO THE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY TO
9:14:49AM KEEP DRAGGING THIS OUT.
9:14:50AM WE EITHER NEED TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT MOVE FORWARD.
9:14:53AM I THINK IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO CONTINUE IT.
9:14:55AM IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 5, THAT THAT WOULD BE
9:14:58AM THE LAST TIME.
9:14:59AM WE EITHER VOTE YES OR NO AT THAT POINT.
9:15:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 65 WAS MY MOTION.
9:15:05AM I'D --
9:15:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MEANT 66.
9:15:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 65, CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE IT?
9:15:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALSO FEBRUARY 6.
9:15:14AM 5 IS NOT A DATE.
9:15:16AM THE 6 IS OUR MEETING.
9:15:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMOVE ITEM 65 AND CONTINUE ITEM 66 AND
9:15:30AM THEN -- FEBRUARY 6, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IS THE LAST
9:15:33AM CONTINUANCE.
9:15:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THERE ARE EIGHT
9:15:37AM STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS SET FOR FEBRUARY 6
9:15:42AM PRESENTLY.
9:15:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE TO WAIVE OUR COUNCIL RULES ON THAT.
9:15:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
9:15:47AM ALL IN FAVOR TO WAIVE THE RULES, AYE.
9:15:49AM ANY OPPOSED.
9:15:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW A MOTION TO --
9:15:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO REMOVE 65.
9:15:54AM MOTION TO CONTINUE 66 TO FEBRUARY 6 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING
9:15:57AM THAT WOULD BE THE LAST CONTINUANCE.
9:15:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:16:01AM CLENDENIN.
9:16:02AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH THE SECOND.
9:16:04AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:16:07AM RECEIVE AND FILE 67, 8, AND 9.
9:16:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: 8 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE STAFF COME IN,
9:16:13AM PLEASE.
9:16:13AM IT'S A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:16:16AM OKAY.
9:16:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN SET FOR A FUTURE DATE OR TALK WITH
9:16:20AM THE STAFF AND THEN BRING IT BACK.
9:16:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T REMEMBER HAVING -- OKAY.
9:16:24AM WHAT SHOULD I DO?
9:16:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT AND
9:16:30AM ASK FOR A STAFF PRESENTATION.
9:16:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, PLEASE.
9:16:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT DATE WOULD BE OPEN ON THE AGENDA?
9:16:36AM >> DO YOU WANT TO HOLD IT UNTIL YOU FIND A DATE?
9:16:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MUCH TIME IS NEEDED, DO YOU THINK?
9:16:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SHORT FORM ON THIS IS THAT THE PARKS
9:16:52AM DEPARTMENT SAID IT MIGHT NOT MAKE A PARK BUT THE COMMUNITY
9:16:55AM WANTS US TO TAKE THIS PROPERTY OVER.
9:16:57AM WE NEED TO HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION.
9:16:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO DO MARCH 27?
9:17:00AM I THINK THERE'S ROOM ON THERE.
9:17:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE MOTION THAT CLENDENIN SAID --
9:17:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM 67 AND 69.
9:17:10AM CONTINUE 68 TO MARCH 27 WITH STAFF HAVING AN IN-PERSON
9:17:16AM REPORT.
9:17:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
9:17:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:17:18AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:17:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:17:21AM AYE.
9:17:22AM LET ME MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING CORRECT.
9:17:27AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM?
9:17:30AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:17:32AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:17:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:17:34AM AYE.
9:17:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE
9:17:37AM STAFF REPORTS BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU DON'T
9:17:40AM NEED STAFF FOR, IN ORDER TO MOVE THINGS ALONG, I WOULD
9:17:45AM REQUEST BECOME YOUR CUSTOM TO TAKE THAT AT THE END OF THE
9:17:47AM CONSENT DOCKET AND MOVE THOSE THEN.
9:17:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONCE I DO CONSENT, I'LL DO THAT.
9:17:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM HYDE PARK THAT
9:17:54AM HAPPENS TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY ON 68, PLEASE
9:17:57AM GO AHEAD AND SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE IT WILL HELP
9:18:00AM INFORM US FOR WHEN IT COMES BACK IN MARCH.
9:18:03AM THANK YOU.
9:18:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
9:18:04AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
9:18:06AM ALREADY VOTED ON UNANIMOUSLY.
9:18:08AM WE'LL GO TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
9:18:11AM WE'LL KICK IT OFF WITH A COMMENDATION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:18:14AM HURTAK TO MR. HARRY HEDGES.
9:18:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ANYONE ELSE THAT'S HERE FOR HARRY, IF THEY
9:18:39AM WANT TO COME UP AND STAND BEHIND US AND SHOW THEIR SUPPORT
9:18:42AM TODAY.
9:18:43AM I LOVE WHEN WE DO THAT.
9:18:46AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:19:06AM TODAY WE'RE CELEBRATING HARRY HEDGES JUST A WONDERFUL,
9:19:11AM WONDERFUL PERSON WHO HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR AFFORDABLE
9:19:14AM HOUSING.
9:19:15AM IT IS THE CITY COUNCIL'S HONOR TO RECOGNIZE HARRY HEDGES FOR
9:19:19AM HIS 11 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S
9:19:23AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
9:19:24AM FIRST APPOINTED BY MAYOR BOB BUCKHORN IN 2013, HARRY
9:19:29AM CONTINUED TO SERVE AS AHAC BOARD MEMBER UNTIL JULY OF 2024,
9:19:34AM INCLUDING EIGHT YEARS AS CHAIR.
9:19:35AM HARRY HAS SERVED ON SEVERAL OTHER GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS
9:19:39AM AND COMMITTEES TO TACKLE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AND
9:19:42AM GRACIOUSLY SHARED HIS EXPERTISE AND IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE WITH
9:19:45AM AHAC.
9:19:46AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROUS
9:19:49AM SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA, PRESENTED THIS 23rd DAY
9:19:52AM OF JANUARY, 2025.
9:19:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:02AM >> THANK YOU.
9:20:04AM IT IS A LONG JOURNEY IN SUPPORTING HOUSING IN THE CITY OF
9:20:09AM TAMPA.
9:20:10AM I FIRST STARTED WITH SANDY FREEDMAN, AND SHE TOOK OVER SO
9:20:15AM THAT GOVERNOR MARTINEZ COULD RUN FOR GOVERNOR.
9:20:19AM AT THAT TIME, A HOUSE WAS $63,750 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:20:25AM WE CAME OVER FROM FIRST FLORIDA BANK AND COMMITTED $3
9:20:30AM MILLION TO KICK OFF THE CHALLENGE FUND.
9:20:33AM THOUGH I MAY HAVE RETIRED FROM THIS, I HAVE NOT RETIRED FROM
9:20:39AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND STANDING UP FOR NOT ONLY THE CITY OF
9:20:44AM TAMPA, BUT I CONTINUE WITH THE COUNTY AND THE STATE.
9:20:48AM BUT WE ALL LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THE
9:20:52AM HELP THE MOST, OUR PEOPLE THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT
9:20:59AM INCLUDES THE TEACHERS, THE NURSES, THE FIREMEN AND THE
9:21:04AM POLICEMEN.
9:21:04AM SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT NEED YOUR SUPPORT GOING
9:21:08AM FORWARD IN HOUSING.
9:21:10AM I AM HONORED AND THIS LADY WHO SERVED ON MY COMMITTEE FOR
9:21:16AM SOME TIME HAS BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO WHAT THE CITY MEANS TO
9:21:22AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:21:24AM THANK YOU.
9:21:24AM AND THANK YOU ALL.
9:21:26AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL FAST, THANK YOU FOR
9:21:36AM YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
9:21:38AM WITH ALL OF YOUR EXPERIENCE, PLEASE DON'T FORGET YOU HAVE
9:21:41AM OUR CELL PHONES.
9:21:42AM IF YOU AGREE OR DON'T AGREE, MORE IMPORTANTLY IF YOU DON'T
9:21:44AM AGREE WITH SOMETHING, CALL US AND LET US KNOW.
9:21:47AM THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK WHO IS BRINGING ALL THE
9:21:50AM MATERIALS FROM THE COMMITTEE TO US SO THAT WE SEE IT.
9:21:53AM FINALLY, THANKS TO THE SUPPORTS, ESPECIALLY GOVERNOR FOR
9:21:55AM COMING TODAY.
9:21:56AM YOU KNOW YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS IF THE GOVERNOR
9:22:00AM IS COMING TO HONOR YOU.
9:22:01AM THANK YOU ALL.
9:22:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS A BIG PASSION FOR
9:22:06AM THIS.
9:22:06AM THANK YOU, SIR, FOR ALL YOUR YEARS OF WORK.
9:22:09AM YOU DO THE WORK OF GEORGE BAILEY, IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE.
9:22:14AM I MEAN THAT.
9:22:15AM THAT CHARACTER TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYDAY PEOPLE HAD
9:22:18AM ACCESS TO HOUSING AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.
9:22:20AM THE PEOPLE HERE WITH YOU OBVIOUSLY SPEAK TO YOUR WORK AND
9:22:23AM OBVIOUSLY AN HONOR TO HAVE GOVERNOR BOB MARTINEZ HERE WHO IS
9:22:28AM A FINE GENTLEMAN.
9:22:29AM SO LUCKY TO HAVE HIM HERE IN THE ROOM AND HERE IN TAMPA.
9:22:32AM JUST A WONDERFUL GENTLEMAN.
9:22:34AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:22:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, HARRY, AND ALL
9:22:38AM OF YOU, GOVERNOR, AND ALL ON THE COMMITTEE SERVED OR MARRIED
9:22:42AM TO SOMEBODY WHO SERVED.
9:22:43AM BECAUSE IF YOU ARE MARRIED TO SOMEBODY SERVING, IN ESSENCE
9:22:46AM YOU ARE SERVING YOURSELF BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT THERE.
9:22:49AM WHAT I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE PRICES OF HOUSING ARE
9:22:56AM DIVIDING CITIES INTO MORE THAN JUST HALVES.
9:22:59AM THEY ARE DIVIDING IT TO A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE
9:23:02AM ANYMORE.
9:23:03AM NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, WHETHER NEW YORK, MONTREAL,
9:23:06AM RIO DE JANEIRO OR TAMPA, FLORIDA, IT'S JUST A NECESSITY THAT
9:23:10AM EVERYONE NEEDS.
9:23:11AM IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY A HOUSE -- AND MOST
9:23:16AM OF US DO NOT NOW -- I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
9:23:19AM I -- MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN 1968 FOR $12,800.
9:23:25AM IF I GET 450,000, I CAN'T MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
9:23:28AM THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE'RE FACING, ALL OF US.
9:23:31AM IN ESSENCE, IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING MORE THAT THE
9:23:34AM GOVERNMENT CAN DO AND THAT THE LAND -- THE LAND VALUE NOW IS
9:23:38AM EQUAL TO HALF THE PRICE OF THE HOUSE, TOTAL COST.
9:23:42AM SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
9:23:44AM IS IT A GOOD PROBLEM?
9:23:45AM SOMETIMES IT IS AND MOST OF THE TIME IT'S NOT, BECAUSE
9:23:48AM PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD IT.
9:23:50AM I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR THE TIME YOU
9:23:52AM HAVE GIVEN FOR MANY YEARS TO MAKE THE THING EASIER AND
9:23:55AM AFFORDABLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
9:23:58AM HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD AND HAVE HOPE THAT THEY CAN BE
9:24:01AM BETTER OFF THAN WHEN THEY WERE BEFORE YOU GUYS GOT INVOLVED.
9:24:04AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
9:24:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL
9:24:07AM MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:24:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, GOOD MORNING.
9:24:11AM ONE, I'LL START BY SAYING I THINK -- I SERVED WITH
9:24:14AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK COMING UP ON TWO YEARS NOW.
9:24:16AM I THINK THIS MAY BE THE FIRST TIME I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN HER
9:24:19AM DO AN IN-PERSON PRESENTATION TO SOMEONE.
9:24:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY ARE RARE.
9:24:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE DOESN'T JUST DOLE THESE THINGS OUT.
9:24:30AM TO HAVE YOU RISE TO THAT LEVEL AND HER PASSION ON AFFORDABLE
9:24:33AM HOUSING IS QUITE A STATEMENT.
9:24:35AM WORKS TO YOU MAY OR MAY NOT, I'M DEAR FRIENDS WITH MAYOR
9:24:38AM FREEDMAN.
9:24:40AM THE HOUSING CHALLENGE FUND, WHAT YOU ALL DID DURING THAT
9:24:46AM ADMINISTRATION WAS REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN HOW I APPROACH
9:24:50AM THESE PUBLIC POLICY DECISIONS IN HOUSING.
9:24:55AM I THINK IT WAS SO FORWARD THINKING.
9:25:00AM IT WAS A PERFECT BALANCE OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT
9:25:03AM AND NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGES AND BEING ABLE TO, ONE, KEEP PEOPLE
9:25:08AM IN THEIR HOMES.
9:25:10AM ENSURING THAT LOTS OR HOUSES NOT UTILIZED WERE REPURPOSED
9:25:15AM AND WE CHANGED NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:25:17AM IT REALLY DID CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:25:20AM I THINK EVERYTHING OLD IS NEW AGAIN.
9:25:23AM I KNOW MS. FEELEY WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS BEFORE WHEN
9:25:27AM WE TALK ABOUT PROGRAMMING THE FUNDS, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO
9:25:30AM GO BACK AND REVISIT.
9:25:32AM YOU PAVED THE WAY FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
9:25:35AM THE PAVEMENT YOU PUT DOWN WE'RE CONTINUING TO DRIVE ON.
9:25:38AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:25:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
9:25:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:25:41AM GOOD MORNING, MR. HEDGES.
9:25:43AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
9:25:46AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
9:25:47AM I AM A RECIPIENT OF THE CHALLENGE FUND.
9:25:53AM I CAN GET EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
9:25:56AM THE CITY DID IN PROVIDING THE CHALLENGE FUND TO CITIZENS OF
9:26:01AM OUR COMMUNITY IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE GENERATIONAL
9:26:05AM WEALTH THROUGH HOME OWNERSHIP.
9:26:08AM THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED.
9:26:09AM I LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:26:12AM DIDN'T COST ME 12,000.
9:26:13AM COST ME 50,000, WHICH WAS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A TEACHER AT
9:26:18AM THAT TIME, BUT IT MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ME AND MY DAUGHTER TO
9:26:22AM OWN A HOME.
9:26:23AM I KNOW THAT IT IS BECAUSE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S EFFORTS AND
9:26:26AM THE HOUSING COMMITTEE'S EFFORT TO REALLY CREATE THESE
9:26:31AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES.
9:26:32AM I'M JUST TRULY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
9:26:35AM YOU CALLED HIM GOVERNOR.
9:26:37AM I CALL HIM A DRAGON.
9:26:38AM OUR GOVERNOR IS HERE, BOB MARTINEZ.
9:26:40AM I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.
9:26:42AM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE FOREFRONT AND
9:26:45AM ACKNOWLEDGING HIM.
9:26:46AM THE REASON WHY IT IS RARE THAT TEACHERS DO THAT IS BECAUSE
9:26:50AM EVERYBODY CAN'T GET A TROPHY.
9:26:52AM THAT'S WHY SHE PICKED YOU BECAUSE IT IS WELL DESERVING.
9:26:55AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:26:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. HEDGES, YOU ARE A TRULY WONDERFUL
9:26:58AM INDIVIDUAL.
9:26:58AM I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN YOU NOT SMILING.
9:27:01AM IT'S ALWAYS -- YOU HAVE THIS POSITIVE ENERGY.
9:27:04AM IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO BE AROUND YOU, BUT YOU ARE A PERSON THAT
9:27:07AM CLEARLY LOVES AND CARES ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AS HAS BEEN
9:27:10AM SPOKEN AND SAID.
9:27:12AM EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE IN SERVICE AND GIVING BACK.
9:27:14AM I APPRECIATE YOU.
9:27:15AM I APPRECIATE YOUR FRIENDSHIP.
9:27:17AM I'M GLAD THAT YOU ARE HERE TODAY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK
9:27:20AM IS HONORING YOU.
9:27:21AM I'M GLAD TO SEE OUR FORMER MAYOR AND GOVERNOR BOB MARTINEZ.
9:27:24AM I KNOW YOU ARE ALL GOOD FRIENDS.
9:27:26AM WE'RE VERY BLESSED TO HAVE YOU.
9:27:28AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:27:28AM I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING AWAY BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO
9:27:32AM CORNERSTONE KIDS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU ARE
9:27:34AM INVOLVED WITH THAT I'VE SUPPORTED, THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO
9:27:38AM SUPPORT.
9:27:38AM YOU HAVE A HEART OF GOLD.
9:27:40AM YOU ARE ALWAYS HELPING SOMEBODY ELSE.
9:27:41AM SO WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:27:43AM CONGRATULATIONS, THIS IS VERY WELL DESERVED.
9:27:45AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:27:46AM WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT AND GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.
9:28:14AM ITEM NUMBER 2 IS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:28:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:28:48AM IT IS A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
9:28:50AM I WANTED TO HAVE A PRESENTATION, AS WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST
9:28:53AM SEVERAL YEARS, FOR HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY, WHICH IS
9:28:57AM JANUARY 27.
9:28:58AM THIS IS THE DATE WHERE IT IS CHOSEN TO COMMEMORATE WHEN THE
9:29:02AM AUSCHWITZ CONCENTRATION CAMP WAS LIBERATED.
9:29:06AM WE HAVE SOME VERY, VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE HERE WITH US TODAY.
9:29:08AM WE HAVE MR. JEFFREY BERGER WHO IS HERE, PRESIDENT OF THE
9:29:12AM TAMPA JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTERS AND FEDERATION.
9:29:14AM WE HAVE MR. JOE PROVASCO, FORMER PRESIDENT, AS WELL AS
9:29:18AM MANAGING PARTNER OF BUSH ROSS, THE LAW FIRM.
9:29:21AM MAX BRAY, AND MORGAN POGODA WITH USF HILLEL WHO WILL BE
9:29:26AM SPEAKING, I BELIEVE.
9:29:27AM WE HAVE MS. SYLVIE FEINSMITH WITH HILLELS OF FLORIDA
9:29:32AM SUNCOAST.
9:29:33AM WE HAVE WITH US HERE, MEETING HER AFTERWARDS, EMILY
9:29:36AM BERNSTEIN WITH I BELIEVE IT IS THE FLORIDA ANTIDEFAMATION
9:29:39AM LEAGUE WHO IS ALSO HERE.
9:29:41AM I WANTED TO INVITE THESE FOLKS TO TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
9:29:44AM OBVIOUSLY SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
9:29:46AM WE KNOW THAT BEFORE OCTOBER 7 OF 2023, 60% REPORTED HATE
9:29:51AM CRIMES TO THE FBI ON A RELIGIOUS BASIS THAT AROSE OUT OF
9:29:54AM ANTI-SEMITISM.
9:29:56AM VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE OBVIOUSLY.
9:29:57AM I WANTED TO INVITE MR. BERGER TO COME FORTH.
9:30:00AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:30:04AM >> CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, GOOD MORNING.
9:30:07AM THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU AND
9:30:11AM TO OUR FELLOW TAMPA RESIDENTS TODAY.
9:30:13AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR KIND INTRODUCTION
9:30:16AM AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
9:30:17AM THIS COMING MONDAY, JANUARY 27 MARKS INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST
9:30:22AM REMEMBRANCE DAY, DAY DESIGNATED BY COMMEMORATION BY THE
9:30:26AM UNITED NATIONS.
9:30:27AM JANUARY 27 WAS SELECTED BECAUSE IT WAS ON JANUARY 27, 1945 A
9:30:32AM MERE 80 YEARS AGO NEXT MONDAY THAT THE HELLACIOUS AUSCHWITZ
9:30:36AM AND BIRKENAU CONCENTRATION CAMPS WERE LIBERATED.
9:30:39AM OUR NEXT SPEAKERS WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THE CAMPS IN A FEW
9:30:42AM MOMENTS.
9:30:42AM THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING
9:30:49AM INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY URGES EVERY MEMBER
9:30:49AM NATION TO HONOR THE MEMORY OF HOLOCAUST VICTIMS.
9:30:51AM 6 MILLION JEWS ALONG WITH MILLIONS OF OTHER MINORITIES WERE
9:30:54AM MURDERED BY THE NAZIS.
9:30:56AM THE RESOLUTION ALSO ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT OF
9:30:58AM EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST TO HELP PREVENT
9:31:02AM HISTORY FROM REPEATING ITSELF.
9:31:04AM THE RESOLUTION REJECTS ANY FORM OF HOLOCAUST DENIAL AND
9:31:07AM CONDEMNS ALL MANIFESTATIONS OF RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE,
9:31:12AM INCITEMENT, HARASSMENT OR VIOLENCE BASED ON ETHNIC ORIGIN OR
9:31:17AM RELIGIOUS BELIEF THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
9:31:19AM THE MESSAGE OF THE U.N. RESOLUTION, WHICH IS BOTH
9:31:22AM INSPIRATIONAL AND ASPIRATIONAL, IS JUST AS IMPORTANT TODAY
9:31:25AM AS IT WAS WHEN THE RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED IN 2005 AND
9:31:29AM PERHAPS EVEN MORE SO.
9:31:30AM TODAY, AS WE REMEMBER, HONOR, AND MOURN THE MILLIONS OF
9:31:34AM LIVES LOST IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS, WE ALSO REMEMBER THAT
9:31:36AM THE HOLOCAUST DIDN'T START IN AUSCHWITZ, BIRKENAU OR THE
9:31:44AM CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
9:31:45AM THE KILLING FIELDS, THE GAS CHAMBERS, CREMATORIA, ALL OF THE
9:31:50AM HORRIFIC MASSACRE FACTORIES DID NOT SPRING UP IN GERMANY AND
9:31:54AM NAZI CONTROLLED CENTRAL EUROPE OVERNIGHT.
9:31:56AM RATHER THE CULMINATION OF GRADUAL RISING TIDE OF
9:32:01AM ANTI-SEMITISM THAT STARTED EARLIER FIRST WITH RACIST SPEWING
9:32:05AM ANTI-JEWISH HATE RANTS WHICH THEN GREW INTO PERSONAL ATTACKS
9:32:09AM ON JEWS WHICH THEN TURNED INTO POGROMS AGAINST JEWISH
9:32:09AM COMMUNITIES UNTIL FINALLY WHEN THE NAZIS CAME TO POWER IN
9:32:15AM GERMANY, THIS JEW HATE BECAME THE DEFINING GENOCIDAL
9:32:19AM IDEOLOGY OF THE ENTIRE THIRD REICH.
9:32:24AM WE'VE SEEN DRAMATIC INCREASE IN HATE SPEECH AND ANTI-SEMITIC
9:32:29AM INCIDENTS, THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IS ALARMED.
9:32:31AM WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HATEFUL ACTIVITIES GO
9:32:34AM UNCHECKED.
9:32:35AM NOW WE KNOW BETTER.
9:32:36AM TODAY, AS WE REMEMBER THE HOLOCAUST AND SEE YET ANOTHER
9:32:40AM RISING TIDE OF JEW HATE IN FLORIDA, AMERICA AND AROUND THE
9:32:44AM WORLD, WE ARE STANDING UP AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO A SINGLE
9:32:46AM OVERARCHING PRINCIPLE, NEVER AGAIN.
9:32:51AM AS WE REMEMBER THE VICTIMS OF THE HOLOCAUST WE ALSO REMEMBER
9:32:54AM THE HEROISM OF THOSE WHO REFUSED TO BE BYSTANDERS AND RISKED
9:33:01AM THEIR OWN LIVES.
9:33:03AM WE REMEMBER THE SO-CALLED RIGHTEOUS GENTILES, OVER 11,000
9:33:08AM RECOGNIZED IN JERUSALEM BECAUSE COURAGE AND MORALITY.
9:33:12AM WE REMEMBER THE SOLDIERS WHO FOUGHT AND DEFEATED THE NAZIS,
9:33:17AM LIBERATED THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS 80 YEARS AGO, SAVING THE
9:33:21AM REMAINING JEWS AND OTHER PRISONERS WHO WERE ABLE TO SURVIVE
9:33:23AM THE NAZI HORRORS.
9:33:26AM WE RECOGNIZE AND THANK YOU, THE MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY
9:33:28AM COUNCIL, FOR SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL JEWISH COMMUNITY.
9:33:30AM YOU PASSED A STRONG RESOLUTION AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM A
9:33:34AM COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN VOCAL AND
9:33:37AM STEADFAST PARTNERS WITH US IN OUR FIGHT AGAINST THE RISE OF
9:33:40AM JEW HATE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:33:41AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR COURAGE AND MORALITY ON THIS ISSUE, AND
9:33:44AM WE CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS OF TAMPA TO FOLLOW YOUR LEAD AND
9:33:49AM JOIN US IN TODAY'S FIGHT AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM AND ALL OTHER
9:33:53AM FORMS OF RACISM, BIGOTRY AND HATRED.
9:33:56AM FINALLY, I WANT TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF HOLOCAUST
9:33:59AM EDUCATION.
9:34:00AM AS TIME PASSES, IT IS INCREDIBLE THAT WE ARE LOSING OUR
9:34:03AM EYEWITNESSES TO THIS AWFUL PERIOD OF HUMAN HISTORY.
9:34:06AM PEOPLE WHO LIVED THROUGH THE HOLOCAUST AND ABLE TO GIVE US
9:34:10AM PERSONAL, FIRSTHAND ACCOUNTS OF WHAT HAPPENED.
9:34:14AM AS THE NUMBER DIMINISHES, IT BECOMES OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO
9:34:17AM MAKE SURE THAT OUR GENERATION AND THE GENERATIONS THAT
9:34:19AM FOLLOW US WILL NEVER FORGET THE HOLOCAUST.
9:34:23AM AS THE U.N. RESOLUTION MAKES CLEAR, HOLOCAUST EDUCATION IS
9:34:26AM CRITICAL TO OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE, TO ENSURE THAT NEVER
9:34:31AM AGAIN TRULY MEANS NEVER AGAIN.
9:34:32AM OUR NEXT SPEAKERS ARE OUTSTANDING EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE IN THE
9:34:36AM NEXT GENERATION WHO ARE EDUCATED ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST AND CAN
9:34:39AM SPEAK ABOUT IT FROM PERSPECTIVES THAT ARE BOTH HISTORICAL
9:34:41AM AND PERSONAL.
9:34:42AM AS I TURN THE PODIUM OVER TO MAX AND MORGAN, I WANT TO THANK
9:34:46AM YOU AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND FOR
9:34:49AM PROVIDING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY.
9:34:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, ESTEEMED TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND
9:35:00AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
9:35:02AM MY NAME IS MORGAN PAGODA.
9:35:04AM >> I'M MAX.
9:35:05AM >> AS WE COMMEMORATE INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE
9:35:09AM DAY, WE STAND BEFORE YOU NOT ONLY AS PROUD MEMBERS OF
9:35:12AM AMERICA'S JEWISH COMMUNITY, BUT AS INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD THE
9:35:15AM HONOR TO BEAR WITNESS TO THE DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES OF
9:35:18AM UNCHECKED HATRED.
9:35:21AM >> ALONG WITH OUR CLASSMATES WE RECENTLY RETURNED FROM A
9:35:24AM LIFE-CHANGING JOURNEY TO POLAND WITH USF AND NEW TAMPA
9:35:30AM HILLEL.
9:35:32AM NOTHING SHORT OF TRANSFORMATIVE.
9:35:34AM TO WITNESS THE REMNANTS OF GENOCIDE RESHAPES ONE'S
9:35:39AM UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE HUMAN.
9:35:41AM >> PARTICIPATING IN THIS FELLOWSHIP TO POLAND ALONGSIDE
9:35:43AM AMERICAN JEWISH STUDENTS FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS WAS AN
9:35:46AM EYE-OPENING EXPERIENCE IN ITSELF.
9:35:48AM HOWEVER, THE TRUE PURPOSE OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO SHARE WHAT WE
9:35:51AM WITNESS AND ENSURE THAT NEVER AGAIN IS A REALITY.
9:35:55AM >> IT IS CRUCIAL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORD JEWS USE TO
9:36:00AM DESCRIBE THE HOLOCAUST IS NOT AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED
9:36:02AM OVERNIGHT.
9:36:03AM WHILE MANY SUFFERED UNDER THE NAZIS, THE FINAL SOLUTION WAS
9:36:07AM SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO ADDRESS WHAT THEY CALLED THE JEWISH
9:36:10AM PROBLEM.
9:36:11AM ATROCITIES DIDN'T OCCUR SUDDENLY BUT RATHER CARRIED OUT OVER
9:36:14AM TIME THROUGH THE DEEPEN OF ANTI-SEMITISM, THE SYSTEMATIC
9:36:18AM EROSION OF RIGHTS AND UNCHALLENGED DEHUMANIZATION OF JEWS.
9:36:22AM JEWISH LIFE IN POLAND ONCE THRIVING AND MAKING UP 10% OF THE
9:36:27AM POPULATION WAS DECIMATED OVER THE COURSE OF 12 YEARS.
9:36:30AM >> IT'S ALSO VITAL TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE GENOCIDE WASN'T
9:36:34AM COMMITTED BY A SMALL RADICAL GROUP ALONE.
9:36:36AM MANY ACROSS NAZI OCCUPIED TERRITORIES EITHER ALLOWED OR
9:36:41AM ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN THE ATROCITIES.
9:36:43AM GROWING UP IN MODERN DAY AMERICA, THE IDEA OF SEEING OTHERS
9:36:46AM LESS THAN HUMAN SEEMED UNIMAGINABLE, UNTIL I SAW FIRSTHAND
9:36:51AM HOW PEOPLE WERE MANIPULATED BY THE LIVES OF THE NAZI REGIME.
9:36:56AM >> HOW COULD PEOPLE BELIEVE PROPAGANDA TARGETING A MINORITY?
9:37:00AM AS JEWS WE OFTEN REFER TO OURSELVES AS THE CANARIES IN THE
9:37:04AM COAL MINE.
9:37:05AM RISING HATRED OFTEN STARTS WITH US.
9:37:07AM THE HOLOCAUST WASN'T CHAOTIC BUT INSIDIOUS.
9:37:11AM THE NAZI REGIME'S METHODICAL APPROACH CAPITALIZED ON DEEPLY
9:37:18AM ROOTED ANTI-SEMITISM TURNING IT INTO A TOOL FOR POLITICAL
9:37:21AM POWER.
9:37:22AM WE SHARE THIS NOT TO DWELL ON THE THIRD REICH BUT TO
9:37:25AM UNDERSCORE HOW EASILY ANTI-SEMITISM, THE OLDEST HATRED, CAN
9:37:31AM BE WEAPONIZED TO DEVASTATING EFFECT.
9:37:33AM >> WE NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF THE NAZIS PLANS,
9:37:38AM WHICH WERE NOT JUST ABOUT EXTERMINATION BUT THE TOTAL
9:37:42AM DEHUMANIZATION OF JEWS LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY.
9:37:45AM AT AUSCHWITZ, WE SAW OVER SEVEN TONS OF HUMAN HAIR TAKEN
9:37:49AM FROM JEWISH PRISONERS, THE HAIR OF OUR WOMEN, TRADITIONALLY
9:37:53AM COVERED TO PRESERVE MODESTY AND THE WAY OUR MEN SHOW RESPECT
9:37:56AM TO GOD WAS SHAVED OFF TO DEHUMANIZE US AND REPURPOSED AS A
9:38:02AM COMMODITY TO SUPPORT THE NAZI ECONOMY.
9:38:05AM >> WHILE IT MAY SEEM LIKE DISENFRANCHISING JEWS OF THEIR
9:38:09AM IDENTITY, CULTURE AND ROOTS WAS ABANDONED IN THE ANNALS OF
9:38:14AM HISTORY, WE STAND BEFORE YOU TO EXPRESS THAT SINCE THE
9:38:17AM HORRORS OF OCTOBER 7 WE'VE DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY WITNESSED
9:38:21AM THE SAME ATTEMPTS, SOME ACCEPTED AND SOME NOT TO WEAPONIZE
9:38:28AM HATRED AGAINST US AND JEWS IN GENERAL.
9:38:32AM >> OUR TRIP TO POLAND ALLOWED US TO DISCOVER THE BEAUTIFUL,
9:38:36AM VIBRANT, RICH JEWISH CULTURE THAT ONCE THRIVED IN POLAND.
9:38:40AM WHILE WE CAN NEVER FULLY RECOVER FROM THE IMMENSE LOSSES
9:38:43AM INFLICTED ON OUR PEOPLE DURING THE HOLOCAUST, WE STAND
9:38:46AM BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH HOPE AND WITH PRIDE.
9:38:48AM 80 YEARS AFTER THE LIBERATION OF AUSCHWITZ ON JANUARY 27,
9:38:53AM 1945, JEWISH LIFE IN POLAND IS BEING REANIMATED.
9:38:57AM >> FROM DANCING IN AN ORTHODOX SYNAGOGUE WITH THE LOCAL
9:39:01AM JEWISH COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN WARSAW TO MEETING WITH STUDENTS
9:39:05AM WE SAW FIRSTHAND THAT THE JEWISH COMMUNITY, THOUGH SMALL, IS
9:39:09AM GROWING AND STRONG.
9:39:11AM >> WITNESSING THE LIGHT OF JEWISH RENEWAL ALONGSIDE THE
9:39:14AM DARKEST CHAPTERS OF HUMAN HISTORY HAS HELPED US PROCESS THE
9:39:19AM TRAGEDY.
9:39:19AM IT REAFFIRMED FOR US THE POWER OF BEING AN UP STANDER OF
9:39:23AM ETHICAL AND INTENTIONAL LEADERSHIP AND OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
9:39:27AM VALUING AND CONTRIBUTING TO SOCIETY.
9:39:28AM ABOVE ALL, IT REINFORCED THE VALUES AND OPPORTUNITIES
9:39:32AM AMERICA OFFERED TO OUR FOREFATHERS.
9:39:34AM >> MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO ESCAPE THE
9:39:38AM HOLOCAUST AND BUILD A NEW LIFE IN AMERICA.
9:39:40AM UNFORTUNATELY, HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS WERE NOT.
9:39:42AM I WAS RAISED WITH THE VALUES OF EQUALITY, FREEDOM AND THE
9:39:48AM BELIEF OF POSITIVELY CONTRIBUTING TO SOCIETY TO ENSURE THAT
9:39:51AM THE HORRORS FACED MY GREAT AUNTS AND UNCLES AND HUMANS IN
9:40:00AM GENERAL WILL NEVER BE REPEATED.
9:40:01AM >> COMING BACK FROM THE TRIP WE FELT COMFORT KNOWING WE ARE
9:40:04AM A PART OF A COMMUNITY WITH LEADERS LIKE YOU WHO GENUINELY
9:40:07AM CARE.
9:40:08AM WE KNOW YOU SHARE OUR BELIEF THAT ANTI-SEMITISM IS SOMETHING
9:40:11AM NONE OF US WANT TO SEE FOR OURSELVES, OUR CHILDREN AND EVERY
9:40:14AM FUTURE GENERATION.
9:40:15AM TOGETHER, WITH OUR SHARED IDEAS, LEADERSHIP AND VALUES THAT
9:40:19AM UNITE US, WE BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE NEVER AGAIN MORE THAN JUST
9:40:23AM WORDS.
9:40:24AM IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TRULY ACHIEVE.
9:40:27AM THANK YOU.
9:40:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:40:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, GUYS.
9:40:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:40:34AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:34AM I DID WANT TO SAY VERY BRIEFLY, I WROTE DOWN RECOGNIZE THE
9:40:42AM LATE NAT ROSS WHO DIED A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
9:40:45AM HE WAS A TAMPA AUSCHWITZ SURVIVOR AND LIVED IN NEW TAMPA AND
9:40:49AM HIS SON JAY, GRANDDAUGHTER DANA AND OTHERS REMEMBER HIM.
9:40:54AM HE WAS AN AMAZING PERSON.
9:40:56AM COUNCIL, IF YOU WISH TO SAY ANYTHING.
9:40:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:41:00AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:41:01AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:05AM ITEM 3 IS OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
9:41:14AM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS REGARDING THE DISABILITY INTERNSHIP
9:41:17AM PROGRAM.
9:41:18AM THAT IS ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:41:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:41:23AM IF I MAY TEE THIS UP, MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE IT.
9:41:26AM I WANTED TO INVITE THESE FOLKS TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THE
9:41:34AM SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT
9:41:36AM WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY, VERY PROUD OF.
9:41:38AM WE HAVE RAQUEL PANCHO AND THE INTERN HERE FROM OUR PROGRAM.
9:41:46AM WE HAVE HERE I SEE REGINA.
9:41:49AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.
9:41:51AM WE HAVE SEAN STEPHENSON WITH CITY OF TAMPA.
9:41:53AM ERIC KAISER, HIS INTERN.
9:41:57AM I WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT SHAWN HERE HAS TAKEN ON
9:42:03AM MR. KAISER AS A CONTRACTOR DOING FORMAL WORK FOR THE CITY OF
9:42:07AM TAMPA.
9:42:08AM TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS PROGRAM SHOULD DO.
9:42:11AM WE ALSO HAVE HERE MS. PHYLLIS GUFFMAN, KAREN LEVY AND RITA
9:42:16AM HATAB WITH McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER.
9:42:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:42:24AM RAQUEL PANCHO.
9:42:26AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM TO THE
9:42:29AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:42:30AM I'M ALSO VERY GRATEFUL MAYOR CASTOR, CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT,
9:42:35AM OCEA WYNN AND REGINA FOR TAKING THE EFFORTS TO LEAD THE
9:42:39AM INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
9:42:40AM I'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH TAVY.
9:42:46AM SHE GRADUATED IN 2023 WITH THE MICROSOFT TRAINING PROGRAM.
9:42:51AM SHE HAS BEEN A GODSEND TO ME IN THE OFFICE.
9:42:54AM HELPED ME WITH DATA ENTRY, RESEARCH, FACT SHEETS, DATA ENTRY
9:42:58AM OF ALL OF THE ADA SURVEYS COMPLETED.
9:43:01AM ALSO TASKED WITH REPORTING MY CALL LOGS, WHICH IS A LOT OF
9:43:04AM CALLS.
9:43:05AM SHE HAS TO READ MY CHICKEN SCRATCH AND TRANSLATE THAT TO
9:43:09AM ACTUAL LEGIBLE INFORMATION.
9:43:11AM I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR HER WORK.
9:43:13AM I'LL HAVE HER SHARE INFORMATION IN JUST A SECOND.
9:43:16AM BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
9:43:19AM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO BRING THIS.
9:43:21AM MANY TIMES EMPLOYERS DON'T TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PASS THE
9:43:25AM PERSONS DISABILITY SO THEY CAN SHOWCASE THEIR TALENTS AND
9:43:29AM SKILLS.
9:43:30AM TAVY IS REALLY HIGHLIGHTING THE TALENTS SHE CAN BRING TO AN
9:43:35AM EMPLOYER.
9:43:36AM I UNDERSTAND FROM HER MOM IN HER LAST JOB, SHE WAS ASKING TO
9:43:40AM WORK MORE THAN NINE HOURS A WEEK AND THEY NEVER INCREASED
9:43:43AM HER HOURS.
9:43:44AM HERE WITH THE CITY, SHE'S WORKING CLOSER TO 20 HOURS A WEEK.
9:43:49AM GRATEFUL FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
9:43:50AM I'M HOPING MORE BUSINESSES WILL SEE HER LEAD AND BRINGING
9:43:55AM THIS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND RECOGNIZING THAT PEOPLE WITH
9:43:57AM DISABILITIES CAN REALLY BRING TALENTS TO THE WORKFORCE.
9:43:59AM SO THANK YOU.
9:43:59AM I'LL HAVE TAVY SHARE INFORMATION.
9:44:03AM >> HELLO.
9:44:04AM MY NAME IS TAVY.
9:44:05AM I'M WORKING AS AN INTERN FOR RAQUEL PANCHO, THE ADA
9:44:10AM COORDINATOR OF THE CITY.
9:44:12AM BECAUSE OF THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM BETWEEN THE McDONALD'S
9:44:15AM TRAINING CENTER AND THE CITY, I'M ABSOLUTELY ENJOYING MY
9:44:21AM TIME WORKING WITH RAQUEL.
9:44:23AM I'M ALSO APPLYING MY MICROSOFT SKILLS WITH THE MANY TASKS
9:44:31AM SHE'S BEEN GIVING ME.
9:44:32AM FOR EXAMPLE, SEVERAL OF THE TASKS ARE MAKING PRESENTATIONS
9:44:37AM FOR MEETINGS USING PowerPoint, PROVIDING DATA ENTRY USING
9:44:43AM EXCEL.
9:44:44AM MAKING RESEARCH PAPERS FOR SERVICE DOGS OR HOW EATING
9:44:52AM DISORDERS ARE AFFECTED BY THE HOLIDAYS BY MICROSOFT WORD AND
9:44:57AM ALSO HELPING HER E-MAILING AWARDS FOR THE NOMINEES FOR THE
9:45:04AM ASIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER FESTIVAL USING OUTLOOK.
9:45:07AM I'VE ALSO BEEN HELPING ORGANIZE AND FILING DOING OTHER TASKS
9:45:13AM FOR HER.
9:45:13AM HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE, I CAN GET HIRED AND CONTINUE
9:45:20AM WORKING FOR HER.
9:45:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:24AM >> INTRODUCE SHAWN.
9:45:25AM >> MY NAME IS SEAN STEPHENSON.
9:45:28AM WITH T & I.
9:45:30AM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THIS PROGRAM.
9:45:32AM THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT.
9:45:34AM PERSONALLY, IT'S BEEN VERY REWARDING.
9:45:36AM GOT TO KNOW ERIC OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS.
9:45:40AM IT'S NOT JUST A JOB, NOT JUST AN EMPLOYEE BUT ALSO A
9:45:45AM RELATIONSHIP NOW.
9:45:46AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:45:48AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:45:49AM FROM THE JOB PERSPECTIVE, WE BROUGHT IN ERIC TO DO A LOT OF
9:45:55AM OUR PC DEPLOYMENTS, PHONE DEPLOYMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:45:59AM THOSE THINGS ARE PROCESS DRIVEN.
9:46:02AM THERE ARE TASK LISTS AND THINGS THAT HE CAN FOLLOW.
9:46:06AM HE KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK.
9:46:08AM HE DID SO WELL THAT WE BROUGHT HIM ON AS A CONTRACTOR.
9:46:11AM NOW WE'VE GOT A PC DEPLOYMENT FOR 2025.
9:46:15AM WE'VE GOT PHONES FOR ALL OF TPD THAT WE'LL BE DEPLOYING THIS
9:46:19AM YEAR.
9:46:19AM WE HAVE THE TEXT MESSAGING ARCHIVE PROJECT THAT WE'RE
9:46:22AM WORKING ON RIGHT NOW AND WINDOWS 10 THAT WE HAVE TO MIGRATE.
9:46:26AM ALL THOSE PROJECTS ERIC WILL BE INVOLVED IN.
9:46:29AM HE'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB FOR US AND BEEN VERY REWARDING FOR
9:46:35AM US.
9:46:36AM >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED LIKE TAVY DID.
9:46:38AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:46:39AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
9:46:43AM EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE AND PUT YOUR NECK OUT THERE TO
9:46:48AM GIVE US, THE AUTISM COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW OUR
9:46:53AM METTLE AND LET US SHOW THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT.
9:46:58AM WITHOUT YOU GUYS, I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I
9:47:02AM WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO MEET SHAWN AND MEET THE
9:47:07AM PEOPLE THAT I HAVE.
9:47:09AM IT'S BEEN REALLY FUN.
9:47:11AM IT'S NOT A JOB FOR ME.
9:47:14AM I ENJOY IT EVERY DAY.
9:47:17AM THANK YOU.
9:47:20AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:47:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:47:24AM I WANTED TO, FOR TAVY, DO YOU HAVE ANY FAMILY HERE?
9:47:30AM THAT'S FINE.
9:47:33AM I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU DID.
9:47:34AM AND FOR ERIC, I WON'T SAY A LOT BECAUSE I'LL GET EMOTIONAL.
9:47:43AM I'M LATIN, MAN.
9:47:47AM I KNOW HOW TO GET EMOTIONAL.
9:47:49AM THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
9:47:53AM I'LL BE MAKING SOME MOTIONS BEFORE I LEAVE HERE AT COUNCIL
9:47:56AM FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE GOT IS GREAT.
9:48:00AM WHAT YOU ALL SEE HERE WITH THESE TWO PEOPLE, WE CAN
9:48:03AM REPLICATE THIS TIMES 20 AND WE SHOULD AND WE WILL.
9:48:06AM I'VE GOT TWO MORE YEARS LEFT ON COUNCIL AND I'LL BE DAMNED
9:48:09AM IF WE DON'T DO THAT BEFORE I LEAVE.
9:48:12AM IT WILL HAPPEN.
9:48:12AM PARDON MY LANGUAGE.
9:48:14AM IT WILL HAPPEN.
9:48:15AM I'LL BE MOTIONING FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS TO LOOK AT THIS
9:48:18AM PROGRAM, HOW IT'S BEING DONE, ESPECIALLY WITH OTHER
9:48:20AM DEPARTMENTS.
9:48:20AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT POLICE, FIRE, EVERY SINGLE
9:48:24AM DEPARTMENT OUT THERE HIRES FOLKS LIKE YOU ALL TO GIVE THEM A
9:48:29AM SHOT, TO GIVE YOU ALL A SHOT.
9:48:31AM WHAT WE SAW HERE IS REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
9:48:33AM I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE APPROPRIATED A LOT OF MONEY
9:48:36AM TOWARDS THIS.
9:48:37AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SPEND EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR.
9:48:41AM BECAUSE WHAT YOU ALL TALK ABOUT HERE IS BEAUTIFUL.
9:48:45AM I'LL ALSO MOTION THAT THIS YEAR, IF WE DON'T SPEND EVERY
9:48:48AM SINGLE DOLLAR, REMAINING FUNDS GO TO McDONALD'S TRAINING
9:48:52AM CENTER AND -- MAKE SURE THAT MONEY GOES TO PROMOTING WHAT WE
9:48:56AM SAW HERE TODAY.
9:48:57AM I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL, JUST EVERYBODY, RAQUEL, REGINA,
9:49:00AM SHAWN, OUR FRIENDS OF THE McDONALD TRAINING CENTER, MAYOR
9:49:04AM JANE CASTOR, JOHN BENNETT, WHO IS ABOUT AS BIG OF A BLEEDING
9:49:08AM HEART AS THEY COME FOR THIS.
9:49:10AM WE'LL TAKE THIS BEAUTY THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE TODAY AND MAKE
9:49:13AM IT EVEN BIGGER.
9:49:14AM GOD BLESS YOU, GUYS AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL FOR YOUR STRONG
9:49:19AM SUPPORT.
9:49:19AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:49:22AM ALL RIGHT.
9:49:24AM WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:49:26AM WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER.
9:49:27AM IT'S MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:49:29AM MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:49:41AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:49:42AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:49:44AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
9:49:48AM I WANT TO START OFF BY GIVING A SHOUT-OUT TO THE DISABLED
9:49:52AM STUDENTS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
9:49:54AM COME OVER TO WEST TAMPA.
9:49:56AM WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU.
9:49:57AM AT THE LAST CRA MEETING, BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES
9:50:01AM ON MY PART, I WAS NOT ABLE TO EXPLAIN OUR POSITION
9:50:06AM SUPPORTING THE $10 MILLION DEAL RELATED TO THE WEST TAMPA
9:50:13AM RIVER PROJECT.
9:50:14AM THE BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY WAS ACKNOWLEDGED WHAT WASN'T
9:50:23AM ACKNOWLEDGED THE BENEFITS TO THE RESIDENTS IN WEST TAMPA.
9:50:26AM WEST TAMPA CDC DEVELOPED A PEOPLE-CENTERED APPROACH FOR
9:50:31AM TRANSFORMING THE COMMUNITY.
9:50:32AM WE USE A TWO-PRONG TEST IN THAT PARTICULAR RESPECT.
9:50:36AM PART OF THE TEST IS DOES IT REDUCE GENTRIFICATION?
9:50:39AM THE OTHER PART OF THE TEST IS DOES IT BUILD GENERATIONAL
9:50:42AM WEALTH?
9:50:42AM WE USE TIE, T-I-E, TECHNOLOGY USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE,
9:50:51AM CHATGPT TO INCREASE RESIDENT VALUE, INVESTMENT, MOVING
9:50:56AM RESIDENTS FROM A CONSUMER PERSPECTIVE TO -- FINALLY,
9:51:01AM ENTREPRENEURSHIP, CREATING WHAT WE CALL HOME-BASE
9:51:06AM BUSINESSES.
9:51:06AM IF THE CURRENT PROJECT ALIGNS WITH THE ROME YARD PROJECT, IT
9:51:09AM WILL GO BEYOND BRICKS AND MORTAR, AND IT WILL BE A WIN-WIN
9:51:19AM FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:51:20AM AS YOU KNOW, THE ROME YARD DEAL COMMITTED RESOURCES TO
9:51:24AM HOME-BASED BUSINESS WHICH CREATE ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 35
9:51:29AM RESIDENTIAL BUSINESSES AND CREATE ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 20
9:51:33AM RESIDENT OWNED BUSINESSES.
9:51:36AM ALSO, OUR TECHNOLOGY CENTER, WHICH WILL FOCUS ON ChatGPT.
9:51:45AM THE FIRST BENEFIT TO THE CITY IS IT WOULD INCREASE THE TAX
9:51:48AM BASE BECAUSE OF NEW BUSINESSES COMING TO WEST TAMPA.
9:51:52AM IT WOULD ENHANCE THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT ON THIS $10
9:51:55AM MILLION BY PROVIDING ANYWHERE FROM 500,000 TO A MILLION IN
9:52:01AM TERMS OF JOB CREATION AND BUSINESS.
9:52:07AM IT WOULD BOOST INCOME AND SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME TO LOW-INCOME
9:52:12AM RESIDENTS, INCLUDING DISABLED RESIDENTS AS WELL.
9:52:19AM ALSO BE PROMOTING RESIDENT OWNED BUSINESSES, INCREASED
9:52:24AM TECHNOLOGY BY INCREASING THE ECONOMIC WEALTH OF RESIDENTS
9:52:27AM AND WILL REDUCE THE CRIME RATE.
9:52:29AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOUR DEVELOPERS ON HOW THEY
9:52:33AM CONTRIBUTE TO THIS PROGRAMMATIC AND SYSTEMATIC APPROACH TO
9:52:39AM MAKING SURE THE RESIDENTS OF WEST TAMPA GET THEIR BENEFIT
9:52:42AM FROM THE $10 MILLION WE COMMITTED.
9:52:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:52:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:52:46AM WE'LL NOW GO TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:52:49AM THE FIRST SPEAKER IS BILL OLIVER FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL GRATZ
9:52:55AM AND CONNIE BURTON.
9:52:57AM GOOD MORNING.
9:52:57AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:52:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:52:59AM MY NAME IS BILL OLIVER.
9:53:01AM I AM A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN FLORIDA.
9:53:03AM LET ME INVOKE THE ELMO, IF I CAN.
9:53:08AM I'M HERE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF THE HARBOUR ISLAND COMMUNITY
9:53:13AM SERVICE ASSOCIATION TO ADDRESS AGENDA ITEM 61, PROPOSED
9:53:16AM CHANGES TO FRANKLIN STREET.
9:53:18AM WITH ONLY THREE MINUTES, I'LL FOCUS ON THE KEY CONCERNS.
9:53:21AM THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE THINK YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION THAN
9:53:24AM IS PROVIDED IN THE CONSULTANT REPORT BEFORE YOU CHOOSE A
9:53:27AM COURSE OF ACTION.
9:53:29AM OF PARTICULAR CONCERN TO MY CLIENT IS THE PROPOSED
9:53:33AM INSTALLATION OF A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT WATER STREET.
9:53:38AM IN THE REPORT, A SIMPLE STATEMENT IS MADE THAT THE SIGNAL
9:53:40AM WOULD RESULT IN DE MINIMIS EFFECTS BUT THERE'S NO
9:53:43AM DOCUMENTATION IN THE REPORT AS TO WHAT THE INCREASE IN DELAY
9:53:47AM OR OBSTRUCTION WOULD BE.
9:53:49AM USING ANALYSIS, FILES AND DATA FROM THE REPORT, MY ANALYSIS
9:53:53AM INDICATES THAT THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL WOULD IMPOSE FROM 37
9:53:57AM TO 67 SECONDS OF DELAY TO EACH VEHICLE ON FRANKLIN STREET
9:54:02AM THAT GETS CAUGHT AT THIS NEW SIGNAL.
9:54:04AM WHEN THE EVENT FACILITIES ARE NOT ACTIVE, THIS INCURS
9:54:09AM UNNECESSARY DELAY.
9:54:11AM THIS REPORT -- THE REPORT INDICATES THAT ONLY THE PEDESTRIAN
9:54:15AM VOLUME WARRANTS WERE MET AND THAT THEY WERE MET ONLY DURING
9:54:19AM CONVENTION CENTER AND AMALIE ARENA EVENTS.
9:54:22AM THE USUAL WARRANTS INVOLVING MOTOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC WERE NOT
9:54:27AM MET IN ANY OF THE TESTED CONDITIONS.
9:54:29AM SO WHILE PEDESTRIAN VOLUME COUNTS WERE UNDERTAKEN AT
9:54:33AM EXISTING CROSSING LOCATIONS, THERE'S NO ANALYSIS OF HOW MANY
9:54:36AM CROSSINGS ARE GENERATED BY EVENTS OF DIFFERENT SIZES OR
9:54:41AM DIFFERENT TYPES.
9:54:42AM IS THE EVENT SERVING A LOCAL POPULATION THAT WOULD DRIVE IN
9:54:46AM OR DOES IT BRING IN A NATIONAL CROWD THAT USE THE HOTELS?
9:54:49AM WILL MEALS BE PROVIDED OR MUST ATTENDEES FIND MEALS AT
9:54:54AM NEARBY RESTAURANTS?
9:54:55AM ARE THEY DAYLONG EVENTS OR AN EVENING RALLY, CONCERT OR
9:54:59AM SPORTING EVENT?
9:55:00AM WHERE ARE THESE PEDESTRIANS WALKING FROM AND TO? THIS KIND
9:55:06AM OF INFORMATION IS NEEDED TO INFORM SHORT-TERM ROUTING AND
9:55:09AM CONTROL STRATEGIES AND LONGER TERM PERHAPS IN LOOKING AT
9:55:15AM ELEVATED OR EVEN WEATHER-PROOFED ROOTING STRATEGIES FOR THE
9:55:19AM PEDESTRIANS.
9:55:19AM FLORIDA D.O.T. POLICY IS TO CONSIDER A ROUNDABOUT BEFORE ANY
9:55:24AM NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS INSTALLED.
9:55:27AM THE CITY OF SARASOTA HAS INSTALLED MANY ROUNDABOUTS AND THAT
9:55:31AM IS A SMALL ROUNDABOUT, BUT THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED MANY OF
9:55:35AM THEM IN THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA.
9:55:39AM THE SMALLER DIAMETER SHORTENS PEDESTRIAN CROSSING DISTANCES
9:55:44AM AND THEY PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR TIME PERIODS WHEN
9:55:48AM TRAFFIC VOLUMES ARE LOW OR SHIFT FROM ONE ENTRYWAY TO
9:55:52AM ANOTHER AS HAPPENS WITH SPECIAL EVENTS.
9:55:54AM A ROUNDABOUT SLOWS VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WHICH IS GOOD FOR
9:55:59AM PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED AREA AND CAN ALSO HELP TO RECOVER FROM
9:56:05AM BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIAN PAVEMENT NOW DEDICATED TO CARS.
9:56:09AM BOTTOM LINE, MORE INFORMATION, MORE STUDY.
9:56:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:56:13AM MICHAEL GRATZ, CONNIE BURTON, MENTESNOT.
9:56:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:56:19AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL GRATZ.
9:56:22AM I AM THE PRESIDENT OF HARBOUR ISLAND COMMUNITY SERVICE
9:56:26AM ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE MASTER ASSOCIATION FOR HARBOUR
9:56:31AM ISLAND.
9:56:31AM I'VE BEEN THAT PRESIDENT FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS.
9:56:35AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM 61 FOR THE PROPOSED TWO
9:56:39AM TRAFFIC LIGHTS ON FRANKLIN STREET NEXT TO THE CONVENTION
9:56:43AM CENTER.
9:56:43AM THIS WOULD RESULT IN THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN AN 800-FOOT
9:56:47AM AREA, THE MAIN ARTERY USED BY HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENTS.
9:56:51AM OUT OF RESPECT FOR CITY COUNCIL'S TIME IT'S JUST BEEN ME AND
9:56:54AM OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
9:56:55AM WE DIDN'T WANT TO INUNDATE YOU AS WE NORMALLY DO WITH
9:56:59AM HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS AND MULTIPLE PEOPLE HERE.
9:57:01AM WE WANTED TO GET RIGHT TO THE POINT AND WE THINK WE HAVE
9:57:04AM YOUR ATTENTION.
9:57:05AM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT FIRST MADE THIS PRESENTATION
9:57:09AM MULTIPLE TIMES TO HARBOUR ISLAND AND DID A SURVEY WHICH THEY
9:57:13AM ONLY RECEIVED 35 RESPONSES FROM RESIDENTS.
9:57:15AM HIXA DID A SURVEY THIS MONTH, OUT OF 4,000 RESIDENTS, WE HAD
9:57:22AM 4,000 RESPOND, TOTAL OF 10% OF TOTAL BASE OF THE 3,000
9:57:26AM REGISTERED VOTERS, HIGHER NUMBER.
9:57:29AM WE ASKED THREE BASIC QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THE PLAN FOR
9:57:32AM THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
9:57:33AM ONE, DID THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT CONTACT YOU FOR FEEDBACK?
9:57:36AM 99% WAS NO.
9:57:40AM DO YOU BELIEVE TWO TRAFFIC LIGHTS WILL IMPEDE TRAFFIC OFF
9:57:47AM AND ON THE ISLAND?
9:57:48AM AND IT WAS 99% YES.
9:57:51AM THE LAST ONE IS, DO YOU THINK THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD
9:57:54AM CONDUCT FURTHER ENGINEERING STUDY?
9:57:55AM AGAIN, 99% YES.
9:57:57AM THREE BASIC QUESTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THIS AREA
9:58:02AM MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.
9:58:04AM TYPICAL TRAFFIC IN A WEEK OF OUR WEST GATE, WHICH WOULD BE
9:58:08AM THE GATE THAT MOST PEOPLE USE, THE FRANKLIN STREET AND
9:58:13AM HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD IS OVER 7900 PEOPLE.
9:58:17AM BACK AND FORTH.
9:58:20AM AND SO THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT DID A TRAFFIC STUDY.
9:58:26AM IT WAS DONE DURING COVID.
9:58:27AM I CAN TELL YOU DURING COVID IN THAT AREA, PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE
9:58:30AM TO GO TO WORK AND WEREN'T.
9:58:32AM ALSO THE FOUR HOTELS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA, I CAN TELL YOU
9:58:36AM FROM BEING IN THE HOTEL BUSINESS, YOUR OCCUPANCY WAS AROUND
9:58:39AM 10 TO 30%, NOT WHAT IT IS IN THE NORMAL BUSINESS PERIOD THAT
9:58:43AM YOU WOULD HAVE TODAY.
9:58:44AM SO I THINK THAT THE PERIOD THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE WAS
9:58:47AM NOT A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE PERIOD TO DETERMINE WHAT THE
9:58:50AM TRAFFIC SHOULD BE IN THAT AREA.
9:58:52AM ALSO, THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS THAT WHEN THE STUDY WAS DONE BY
9:58:56AM STANTEC THAT THEY HAD TO KEEP THE GRECO CROSSING.
9:59:03AM IT'S BEEN THERE 40 YEARS AGO, THERE WERE NO HOTELS, MUCH
9:59:07AM LESS HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENTS.
9:59:08AM WE'RE NOT SAYING A SOLUTION IS NOT NEEDED.
9:59:12AM WE THINK A SOLUTION IS NEEDED.
9:59:14AM YOU'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE
9:59:16AM RIVERWALK, THUNDER ALLEY, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS.
9:59:19AM AND DOING THE RIGHT ALTERNATIVE REALLY MAKE IT BETTER FOR
9:59:23AM EVERYBODY.
9:59:24AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE COUNCILMAN
9:59:26AM MISSING.
9:59:27AM TAKE CARE.
9:59:28AM THANK YOU.
9:59:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:59:29AM WE HAVE CONNIE BURTON, MENTESNOT AND MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:59:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
9:59:45AM FIRST, I WOULD SAY TO ALL OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, PRAYERS
9:59:51AM GO OUT TO THEM FOR THEIR ONGOING SUFFERING THAT THEY ARE
9:59:54AM ENDURING AS WELL.
9:59:55AM ITEM 4, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
10:00:00AM THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN AS TO TRAINING THAT THE POLICE
10:00:04AM DEPARTMENT WILL BE GIVING TO MEMBERS OF THE HOUSING
10:00:07AM AUTHORITY.
10:00:08AM WHAT WOULD THAT BE?
10:00:09AM WE'VE GONE THROUGH BIKING WHILE BLACK.
10:00:13AM WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TURNING IN
10:00:18AM INFORMATION TO LANDLORDS.
10:00:19AM AND I WOULD CAUTION YOU AND PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.
10:00:24AM LAST WEEK, I WANT TO BRING THIS UP, AT YOUR CRA MEETING, YOU
10:00:29AM HONORED THE PAST IMMEDIATE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
10:00:34AM ASSOCIATION, AND HE MADE IT VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT HE HAD
10:00:36AM SERVED ON THAT BOARD FOR EIGHT YEARS.
10:00:40AM AND I THINK ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH THE EAST TAMPA CRA BOARD
10:00:46AM HAD TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND THE COMMUNITY WAS NO LONGER
10:00:50AM ABLE TO BRING FORTH ITS REPRESENTATIVE BECAUSE YOU WANTED US
10:00:54AM TO COME UNDER COMPLIANCE OF HOW ALL OTHER CRA BOARDS
10:01:00AM OPERATED.
10:01:00AM OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE ONLY ABLE TO SERVE A TWO-YEAR TERM.
10:01:07AM ITEM NUMBER 42 AND 43, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO PASS BECAUSE IT
10:01:13AM IS THE TENDENCY THAT OTHERS OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY KNOW
10:01:17AM WHAT'S BEST FOR US.
10:01:17AM YOU'VE BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY, TIME AND TIME AGAIN THE THINGS
10:01:24AM THAT THE BLACK COMMUNITY WANT AND SURE BLACK VOICES SAY THIS
10:01:28AM MORNING THIS IS THE BEST DEAL WE CAN GET.
10:01:30AM BUT THE VERY RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THE
10:01:34AM COMMUNITY DIDN'T OPT OUT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THE BEST THING
10:01:38AM FOR US RIGHT NOW IS RENTAL PROPERTY.
10:01:41AM THE BEST THING FOR US WOULD BE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE LIVED IN
10:01:47AM THAT COMMUNITY FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO SEE THE CRA INVESTMENT
10:01:50AM FUND, THE TIF MONEY, BE APPLIED TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S
10:01:53AM THERE NOW.
10:01:55AM NUMBER 42 AND 43, WE HAVE HEARD IT.
10:01:58AM WE KNOW THAT PART OF THE PARADE OF PEOPLE THAT'S PART OF
10:02:02AM THIS, THE EEOC, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL PROMISED TO
10:02:08AM BRING ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF JOBS.
10:02:10AM WHEN THEY TALK US, THEY TALK ABOUT CULINARY JOBS AND
10:02:15AM TRAINING THAT ANY PERSON COMING OUT OF PRISON, PERSON GO
10:02:23AM FROM McDONALD'S, BUS LINE AND SERVICE LINE, THEY CAN GET
10:02:26AM THOSE JOBS.
10:02:27AM THOSE ARE NOT THE JOBS OR THE TRAINING THAT'S GOING TO
10:02:31AM PROVIDE THE TYPE OF INCOME THAT WILL MOVE OUR PEOPLE TO
10:02:34AM BECOME ECONOMICALLY SUFFICIENT.
10:02:37AM IT IS NOT THE TYPE OF TRAINING THAT WE NEED THAT'S GOING TO
10:02:41AM HELP US CREATE GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
10:02:42AM YOU TALK ABOUT ALL THESE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS THAT ONCE WORKED
10:02:46AM FOR YOU, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT UTILIZING PROPERTIES INSIDE
10:02:50AM OF OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP OUR PEOPLE NOW, YOU CAN'T GET
10:02:53AM THERE.
10:02:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:02:55AM NEXT SPEAKER IS MENTESNOT, MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR, AND
10:03:02AM MR. ERNEST CONEY.
10:03:05AM >> UHURU.
10:03:07AM FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
10:03:10AM MENTESNOT MEANING ANYTHING POSSIBLE.
10:03:11AM YOU CAN TELL WHEN YOU GET OLDER, WHAT YOU TELL YOUR KIDS OR
10:03:17AM GRANDKIDS.
10:03:19AM I TELL MY KIDS WHEN YOU GO TO SCHOOL, LEARN EVERYTHING WHITE
10:03:23AM FOLKS HAVE TO TEACH YOU.
10:03:24AM 100% OF IT OTHER THAN THE MATH AND SCIENCE IS 100% FALSE.
10:03:28AM YOU HAVE TO LEARN IT TO PASS THAT TEST.
10:03:31AM TODAY WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
10:03:33AM TODAY WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
10:03:36AM PEOPLE COME UP HERE CRYING ABOUT SOME HOLOCAUST REMINDER,
10:03:40AM WHATEVER, WHATEVER, IT'S GARBAGE.
10:03:43AM STRAIGHT GARBAGE.
10:03:44AM WASN'T 6 MILLION JEWS IN GERMANY, IN EUROPE, AT NO TIME,
10:03:50AM PERIOD.
10:03:50AM NO SUCH THING.
10:03:51AM BASIC WHITE ON WHITE CRIME.
10:03:54AM NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
10:03:55AM WHAT'S GOING ON IN PALESTINE RIGHT NOW AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE
10:04:00AM THE GUMPTION TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT LOOK WHAT HAPPENED
10:04:03AM OCTOBER 7, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DID THAT.
10:04:06AM NO SUCH THING AS HAMAS.
10:04:11AM NO SUCH THING AS HAMAS.
10:04:13AM ONLY REVOLUTIONARY ORGANIZATION EVER EXISTED IN THE LAST X
10:04:18AM AMOUNT OF YEARS WAS THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY.
10:04:22AM AIN'T AS SIMPLE.
10:04:23AM WE'VE SEEN WHAT THE FBI AND POLICE DEPARTMENT DID TO THEM.
10:04:27AM SEEN WHAT THE FBI AND POLICE DEPARTMENT DID TO MARTIN LUTHER
10:04:29AM KING, FRED HAMPTON AND OTHER PEOPLE.
10:04:32AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:04:34AM THE OTHER THING IS, NOT ONE JEW WAS KILLED UNDER THOSE
10:04:37AM CIRCUMSTANCES.
10:04:39AM DON'T LET PEOPLE FOOL YOU WITH THE HISTORY.
10:04:42AM AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS A WHITE JEW.
10:04:44AM NO SUCH THING AS A WHITE JEW.
10:04:46AM NO SUCH THING AS A WHITE CHRISTIAN.
10:04:48AM THAT IS A FAKE CHRISTIAN AND A FAKE JEW.
10:04:53AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:04:55AM RUN THAT GAME WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:04:56AM IT GOES TO SHOW I HAVE NO DISCIPLINE BECAUSE DIDN'T EVEN
10:05:00AM COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT BUT SEE THE PEOPLE TALKING
10:05:03AM THEIR GARBAGE WHILE MURDERING THE PEOPLE IN PALESTINE IN
10:05:06AM PLAIN AND BROAD DAYLIGHT.
10:05:09AM IT'S OFFENSIVE.
10:05:10AM THIS CITY COUNCIL CAN'T PASS A RESOLUTION TO DEAL WITH THE
10:05:13AM SITUATION IN PALESTINE, AND THEY ARE BACK TRYING TO DO THE
10:05:17AM SAME THING.
10:05:18AM SAME THING HITLER THEY SAID DID TO THEM, TRYING TO DO TO US.
10:05:23AM PUT BACK THE GREEN TEAM AND POLICE TEAM AND ALL OTHER KIND
10:05:26AM OF TEAMS BACK IN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
10:05:28AM BLACK PEOPLE GOT TO FIGHT FOR THAT ALL OVER AGAIN.
10:05:31AM WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS THAT THEY NEED TO
10:05:34AM DEFUND AND ABOLISH CHILD SUPPORT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:05:39AM CHILD SUPPORT CAUSES MORE PROBLEMS INSIDE THE BLACK
10:05:41AM COMMUNITY THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
10:05:44AM MORE PROBLEMS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:05:48AM CHILD SUPPORT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
10:05:51AM IT'S EUGENICS PROGRAM AND RUNNING IT ON AFRICAN PEOPLE SINCE
10:05:55AM SATURDAY, JANUARY 4, 1975.
10:05:58AM IT'S NOT A FAMILY REUNIFICATION PROGRAM.
10:06:02AM IT IS EUGENICS PROGRAM.
10:06:03AM THIS CITY COUNCIL NEED TO CALL OVER TO THE COURTHOUSE AND
10:06:06AM TELL THEM ABOLISH CHILD SUPPORT.
10:06:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:06:10AM MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR, ERNEST CONEY, MRS. CHLOE CONEY.
10:06:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:06:19AM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TOUCH ON CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY IN
10:06:24AM THE AGENDA.
10:06:25AM IF I CAN DIG AROUND IN THE AGENDA AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND
10:06:28AM WHAT SOMETHING IS AND I HAVE NO CLARITY ON IT, THEN HOW DO
10:06:32AM WE EXPECT ANY OF THE OTHER 400,000 PEOPLE BECAUSE I WORK
10:06:36AM HARD EVERY SINGLE WEEK READING THE AGENDA.
10:06:40AM FOR EXAMPLE, NUMBER 42 AND 43 THIS WEEK, I KNOW WHAT IT IS
10:06:46AM NOW, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS WHEN I READ IT BECAUSE IT
10:06:50AM WAS VERY UNCLEAR.
10:06:52AM THIS SHOULD BE WRITTEN SO THAT ANYBODY WHO PICKS UP AN
10:06:54AM AGENDA FOR THE FIRST TIME AT LEAST HAS A CLUE.
10:06:57AM IF THEY DIG IN THE FIRST TWO DOCUMENTS, THEY SHOULD HAVE A
10:07:01AM BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:07:03AM NOBODY SHOULD HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE OR STUDY THE CITY OF
10:07:06AM TAMPA IN ORDER TO READ THESE AGENDAS.
10:07:09AM A LOT OF TIMES I HAVE TO GO INTO THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE I CAN
10:07:12AM EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
10:07:15AM LAST WEEK, WE HAD STREETLIGHT INSTALLATIONS, $700,000.
10:07:20AM I WENT THROUGH 6, 7, 8 PAGES OF DOCUMENTATION.
10:07:24AM I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT IF WE WERE PAYING FOR LABOR OR PARTS
10:07:27AM OR PAYING FOR SERVICE.
10:07:28AM THERE'S NO INVOICE IN THERE.
10:07:30AM WHERE DID THOSE STREETLIGHTS GO?
10:07:31AM WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO BE INSTALLED?
10:07:33AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:07:35AM I STILL DON'T KNOW.
10:07:36AM THE ONE-PAGER HELPED SIGNIFICANTLY.
10:07:39AM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:07:43AM BUT SOMEBODY IN ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS, WHEN THEY HAVE
10:07:47AM MULTIPLE BIDS ON SOMETHING, THEY PUT IT IN THE ONE PAGER.
10:07:50AM I KNOW HOW TO LOOK FOR IT.
10:07:52AM I LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY SAVED THROUGH THE BID PROCESS.
10:07:56AM MANY TIMES I HAVE TO SEARCH THROUGH 40, 70 PAGES OF
10:08:00AM DOCUMENTATION IN ORDER TO FIND OUT WHO BID ON IT, WHETHER
10:08:02AM THEY BID ALL THE WAY THROUGH OR NOT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE
10:08:05AM HAVE THREE BIDDERS AND TWO OF THEM ARE NONRESPONSIVE.
10:08:08AM I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT THE DEFINITION OF
10:08:11AM NONRESPONSIVE IS.
10:08:12AM SOMETIMES THERE ARE FIVE BIDS AND TWO ARE NONRESPONSIVE.
10:08:16AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:08:16AM BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR.
10:08:19AM IT'S GOTTEN WORSE OVER TIME.
10:08:21AM NUMBER 32, I'M AMAZED TO SEE THAT CSX IS DOING SOMETHING
10:08:25AM SWEET WITH THE CITY, THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY PLAYING NICE.
10:08:29AM LET'S KEEP THAT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE A TRAIN TRACK ALL THE WAY
10:08:33AM FROM SOUTH COUNTY ALL THE WAY TO MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
10:08:35AM IF WE CAN GET THESE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS, OFF OF THE
10:08:40AM ROADS, IN THEIR CARS, WE WOULD BE A MUCH NICER CITY.
10:08:44AM SPEAKING OF OUR FOLKS ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
10:08:47AM I THINK IT WAS FUNNY A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE.
10:08:49AM YOU KNOW WHAT, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PEDESTRIAN STUDY
10:08:51AM BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE CROSSING
10:08:54AM THE STREET.
10:08:55AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CROSSING THE STREET ON YOUR FEET, NOT
10:08:58AM DRIVING IN CARS.
10:08:59AM THE FOLKS IN HARBOUR ISLAND ARE THE EXPERTS ON THIS AREA.
10:09:04AM I'M SORRY, BUT THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO CLEAN OUT
10:09:07AM THEIR EARS AND START LISTENING TO THE EXPERTS IN THAT AREA
10:09:10AM AND QUIT IGNORING THEIR PROBLEMS WITH THIS ISSUE.
10:09:14AM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE MISERABLE
10:09:18AM IN ORDER TO MAKE PEOPLE WHO VISIT HAPPY.
10:09:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:22AM MR. CONEY, MRS. CHLOE CONEY, MS. VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:09:28AM >> ERNEST CONEY, JUNIOR.
10:09:29AM I'M CEO OF THE CDC OF TAMPA. GLAD TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
10:09:35AM I'M IN SUPPORT OF CONSENT AGENDA 42 AND 43 IN REGARDS TO THE
10:09:38AM EAST TAMPA LIVE LEARN DEVELOPMENT.
10:09:40AM MY COMMENTS COME ONE AS A VOLUNTEER IN EAST TAMPA SINCE LATE
10:09:45AM '80s WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, DOING DRUG MARCHES,
10:09:49AM EMPOWERMENT MARCHES AND HOLDING CANDLELIGHT VIGILS.
10:09:58AM MY COMMENTS COME AS A PERSON WHO WORKS EVERY SINGLE DAY TO
10:10:01AM HELP IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS IN EAST TAMPA.
10:10:04AM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD TO RESOLVE IN MY MIND WAS DO
10:10:08AM I STAY IN TAMPA?
10:10:10AM AS I WAS BUILDING MY CAREER AS ACTUARY WORKING FOR WELL
10:10:14AM CARE, I HAD TO THINK ABOUT A JOB OFFER I HAD TO RELOCATE TO
10:10:18AM D.C.
10:10:19AM WHAT KEPT ME HERE WAS THINKING ABOUT THE LEGACY OF THE WORK
10:10:22AM OF MY PARENTS.
10:10:23AM OF COURSE, MY DAD CREATED THE FIRST INNER CITY YMCA ON
10:10:28AM FLORIDA AND PALM.
10:10:29AM I LOOK AT THE KIDS HE SAVED THEIR LIVES AND THEY HAVE
10:10:32AM PROFESSIONAL CAREERS IN THE NFL.
10:10:34AM I THINK ABOUT MY MOTHER WORKING AT LEE DAVIS NEIGHBORHOOD
10:10:37AM SERVICE CENTER AND GREAT WORK SHE DID AT CDC OF TAMPA.
10:10:41AM PEOPLE MY AGE ARE NOT MOVING BACK TO EAST TAMPA.
10:10:43AM WHY?
10:10:44AM THEY THINK ABOUT THE '80s AND '90s WHEN THEY FELT
10:10:47AM TERRORIZED, WHEN THEY FELT LIKE NO OPPORTUNITIES TO GROWTH,
10:10:50AM EVEN START A BUSINESS IN EAST TAMPA.
10:10:52AM THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK.
10:10:54AM HOW DO WE CHANGE THIS?
10:10:55AM HOW DO WE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THIS?
10:10:57AM WE HAVE TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:10:59AM THIS PROJECT DELIVERS ON A PROMISE, A BROKEN PROMISE AND
10:11:04AM DEFERRED DREAMS.
10:11:05AM THE BROKEN PROMISE WAS EAST TAMPA HAS A COMMUNITY CALLED
10:11:08AM COLLEGE HILL.
10:11:09AM THE GOAL WAS TO ATTRACT BLACK RESIDENTS TO MOVE TO EAST
10:11:13AM TAMPA.
10:11:15AM THE PROMISE WAS IF YOU MOVE TO EAST TAMPA, WE WILL BUILD A
10:11:18AM COLLEGE.
10:11:19AM THAT WAS A BROKEN DREAM THAT NEVER MATERIALIZED.
10:11:23AM TODAY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
10:11:25AM FLORIDA, HCC AND THE CDC OF TAMPA'S VOCATIONAL PROGRAM,
10:11:30AM TAMPA VOCATIONAL INSTITUTE TO HELP PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL
10:11:34AM OPPORTUNITIES AND TRAINING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
10:11:37AM WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FAB LAB THAT WE ALSO HAVE, WE HAVE
10:11:41AM ENTREPRENEURS WHO MAY NEED TO LEARN MANUFACTURING TRAINING.
10:11:44AM MAY NEED TO EDUCATE YOUNG PEOPLE ON THESE JOBS.
10:11:47AM HOW DO WE BEGIN TO ATTRACT KIDS FROM MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL
10:11:49AM IN ENGINEERING AND THEN PLACE THEM INTO EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
10:11:54AM THIS WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF A TRAJECTORY OF HOW DO WE
10:11:57AM BUILD SMART MANUFACTURING DISTRICTS IN EAST TAMPA?
10:12:00AM WE HAVE TO BUILD EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, INDUSTRY CENTERS, AND
10:12:03AM THE CHALLENGE WAS TO BRING THE CDC AND USF TO EAST TAMPA.
10:12:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:12:09AM MS. CHLOE CONEY, VALERIE BULLOCK AND ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:12:15AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:12:16AM I AM A WOMAN THAT WEAR MANY HATS.
10:12:18AM MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT I WAS FOUNDER AND FIRST PRESIDENT OF
10:12:23AM CDC OF TAMPA, AND THEY CELEBRATING THIS YEAR 33 YEARS THERE.
10:12:27AM I'M ALSO ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF EAST TAMPA CRA
10:12:31AM BOARD.
10:12:31AM CHLOE CONEY.
10:12:35AM I LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, SAM
10:12:38AM CANON, VAN BEST, DIANNE HART, BETTY WIGGINS AND MYSELF AND
10:12:44AM OTHERS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THOMAS SCOTT.
10:12:46AM WE HAD TO FIGHT FOR THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP.
10:12:49AM WE KNOW GOOD AND WELL THAT MANY YEARS WE'VE BEEN NEGLECTED.
10:12:53AM WE WERE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
10:12:55AM THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE STANDING HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE
10:12:58AM RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES THAT VALUE EAST TAMPA.
10:13:03AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CRAIG RICHARDS WITH THE TAMPA BAY
10:13:07AM ECONOMIC COUNCIL FOR PARTNERING WITH THE CDC AND THE EAST
10:13:12AM TAMPA CRA.
10:13:13AM TOO MANY TIMES I FOUND OUT THAT BUSINESSES COME INTO EAST
10:13:16AM TAMPA AND WANT TO DO IT FOR US BUT NEVER WITH US.
10:13:20AM NEVER HAVING ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK THERE, NOT PARACHUTED
10:13:24AM INTO THAT COMMUNITY.
10:13:26AM EAST TAMPA BEEN THERE 33 YEARS, WORKED WITH US TO CREATE
10:13:31AM GENERATIONAL WEALTH FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:13:35AM I COMMEND THEM FOR THAT.
10:13:36AM JUST LIKE A LITTLE HISTORY YOU DID WITH THE HOLOCAUST, I
10:13:40AM NEED TO BE HERE, I'LL BE 75 THIS YEAR IF THE LORD WILLING
10:13:44AM AND WORKING IN EAST TAMPA THE LAST 50 YEARS, TO SAY THAT THE
10:13:47AM CDC WAS THE FIRST ORGANIZATION ALONG WITH BANK OF AMERICA
10:13:51AM AND -- TO BUILD THE FIRST APARTMENTS.
10:13:54AM WE BUILD SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THERE.
10:13:56AM WE NOT ONLY DID DRUG MARCHES AND CLEANUP BUT WE WENT AND
10:14:00AM BUILT THE LAUNDROMAT.
10:14:02AM WE BUILT A YOUTH CENTER AND SENT A THOUSAND KIDS OFF TO
10:14:09AM COLLEGE.
10:14:09AM CDC OWNS ON MARTIN LUTHER KING, THE EAST TAMPA BUSINESS
10:14:13AM CENTER WHERE I GO AND GET MY NAILS DONE AT PERFECT TEN.
10:14:16AM WE OWN BECAUSE WE TORE DOWN THAT OLD RUMORS AND WILD CHERRY,
10:14:22AM THE STRIP CLUB ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
10:14:25AM TODAY I STAND TO PROUDLY SAY THE NAME CHLOE CONEY URBAN
10:14:28AM ENTERPRISE CENTER.
10:14:33AM WE OWN THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET THAT BANK OF AMERICA
10:14:35AM GAVE US AND SOLD IT TO SUNCOAST TO BRING IN MORE FINANCIAL
10:14:39AM INSTITUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING BUT
10:14:41AM PAY DAY LENDING.
10:14:42AM TODAY I WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT AGENDA 42 AND 43 BECAUSE WE
10:14:53AM NEED AN ECONOMIC ENGINE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:14:56AM WE NEED A PLACE THAT WE CAN SAY THAT RESIDENTS CAN LIVE AS
10:15:00AM THEY BUILD HOMES THERE, CREATE BUSINESSES THERE AND CREATE
10:15:04AM WEALTH THERE.
10:15:05AM I'M SO GLAD THE CDC IS A PART OF THAT.
10:15:09AM AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
10:15:11AM I WANT TO SEE SOME OF THIS WHILE I AM YET ALIVE.
10:15:15AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE COUNCIL.
10:15:16AM GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
10:15:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:18AM MS. VALERIE BULLOCK, MS. ROBIN LOCKETT --
10:15:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, VALERIE BULLOCK FROM EAST TAMPA.
10:15:25AM I COME FROM A LONG LINE OF POOR FOLKS THAT BELIEVE IN
10:15:29AM EDUCATION AND TRAINING TO GET YOUR LIFE TOGETHER AND BE PART
10:15:33AM OF THE ECONOMIC SYSTEM.
10:15:35AM I'M ALSO CONNECTED TO THE POOR PEOPLE, THE HOMELESS PEOPLE,
10:15:38AM THE ONES ON DRUGS, ONES WHO HAVE BEEN TO PRISON AND THE
10:15:42AM LITTLE GIRL IN EAST TAMPA THAT'S GETTING MOLESTED TODAY,
10:15:45AM THAT'S WHO I'M CONNECTED TO.
10:15:49AM YOU ALL DID A GOOD JOB MILLION DOLLARS.
10:15:51AM THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.
10:15:53AM MY NIECE AND FOUR KIDS LIVING IN MY HOUSE.
10:15:57AM ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THEY GOT ACCEPTED INTO THE
10:16:00AM PROGRAM.
10:16:01AM KUDOS.
10:16:02AM AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE?
10:16:05AM I'M GETTING SO TIRED OF EXTENDING THE PAPER WORK?
10:16:08AM WHEN IS THE BUILD, REMODELING AND RESTORATION COMING?
10:16:12AM ITEM NUMBER 41, MS. NOREEN MILLER, SHE DIED TRYING TO GET
10:16:18AM SIDEWALKS FOR EAST TAMPA.
10:16:20AM NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN HANNA STREET GOING TO GET SIDEWALKS, SO
10:16:24AM WE NEVER HAVE SIDEWALKS IN EAST TAMPA.
10:16:26AM 42 AND 43, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
10:16:32AM HOW MUCH TRAINING DO WE NEED?
10:16:34AM WHEN IS WE GOING TO GET A PAYCHECK?
10:16:36AM WE DO NEED AN ECONOMIC ENGINE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:16:44AM SO PEOPLE CAN GET A JOB AND BE ABLE TO GO UP AND CONTINUE TO
10:16:48AM STAY IN EAST TAMPA.
10:16:51AM WAS THERE A WORKSHOP DONE?
10:16:52AM WAS THERE ANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT?
10:16:54AM I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE ON FOOD STAMPS AND WELFARE AND
10:17:00AM FOUR GENERATIONS LIVING IN THEIR HOUSE.
10:17:02AM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ALREADY GOT MONEY.
10:17:05AM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THESE OUTSIDE PEOPLE.
10:17:08AM I'M TALKING ABOUT WAS THERE ANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DONE?
10:17:12AM DID WE GET PUBLIC NOTICE?
10:17:14AM NO, WE DID NOT.
10:17:16AM AND WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER TRAINING CENTER.
10:17:19AM WHY?
10:17:19AM WE GOT ERWIN.
10:17:23AM CDT, TAMPA VOCATIONAL INSTITUTE, LESS THAN A MILE FROM THIS
10:17:28AM SITE RIGHT HERE.
10:17:30AM HOW MUCH TRAINING DO WE NEED?
10:17:31AM WE ALSO HAVE CAREER-SOURCE, SKILLS CENTER.
10:17:38AM EVERY TIME SOMEBODY COME IN TOWN, THEY REALLY SEE TAMPA AS
10:17:43AM DUMB COUNTRY BUMPKINS.
10:17:44AM WE COME IN HERE AND GET THIS MONEY.
10:17:48AM GOUGE THEM FOR ALL WE CAN GOUGE THEM AND TAKE THE MONEY AND
10:17:51AM RUN.
10:17:51AM THEY NEVER DELIVER ON THEIR PRODUCTS OR ON THEIR PROMISES.
10:17:57AM NOW, EAST TAMPA -- THE GPD, IT GROWN BY 4.3%.
10:18:08AM $198 BILLION RIGHT NOW IN IT.
10:18:13AM HOW MUCH WAS THAT MONEY USED TO PROVIDE TRAINING OF ENTRY
10:18:18AM LEVEL JOBS FOR THE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD?
10:18:21AM HOW MUCH WAS SPENT ON INCENTIVES TO GET THEM TO COME?
10:18:26AM IF THEY LIKE IT SO MUCH, THEY OUGHT TO COME FOR FREE.
10:18:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:18:31AM MS. ROBIN LOCKETT, CHRIS KIRSHNER, STEVE MICHELINI.
10:18:36AM GOOD MORNING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:18:39AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:18:40AM ROBIN LOCKETT, FLORIDA RISING.
10:18:42AM I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON SEVERAL ITEMS, ACTUALLY.
10:18:47AM THE FIRST ITEM IS AN IMPORTANT ITEM FOR ME.
10:18:50AM AND THAT IS THE YELLOW JACKETS PARK.
10:19:00AM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN REGARDS TO YELLOW JACKETS FOR US
10:19:03AM TO DO SOMETHING ON IT.
10:19:06AM I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS ATTEMPTING TO
10:19:10AM PUT IT UNDER CBA, THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT OR WORK
10:19:15AM SOMETHING OUT WITH THAT.
10:19:16AM THERE IS A CULTURE CENTER IN WEST TAMPA, GWEN MYERS,
10:19:21AM COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS IS BUILDING.
10:19:23AM SHE HAS FULL FUNDING ON IT OR MOST OF HER FUNDING.
10:19:26AM FEDERAL FUNDING, SHE'S RAISING MONEY.
10:19:29AM THIS CULTURE CENTER OR WHATEVER IT IS CALLED, MAY BE CALLED
10:19:33AM AN AFRICAN AMERICAN CENTER, THE NAME MAY CHANGE, THAT'S
10:19:37AM UNDER THE ROME YARD PROJECT, WE DON'T NEED TWO OF THE SAME
10:19:43AM THINGS, JUST LIKE TWO CHURCHES ON THE SAME STREET WITH
10:19:47AM DIFFERENT RELIGIONS.
10:19:49AM WE DON'T NEED BOTH OF THEM.
10:19:51AM THE MONEY YOU'RE HAVING SET ASIDE FOR THE ROME YARD PROJECT,
10:19:54AM THAT MONEY CAN BE PUT TO MAKE DO OR MAKE THE REALITY OF THAT
10:20:00AM PROMISE THAT THE CITY MADE TO COACH WRIGHT AND THE YELLOW
10:20:07AM JACKETS TO MAKE THEM WHOLE.
10:20:10AM THAT PARK NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
10:20:11AM THAT PARK NEEDS TO BE JUST FIXED, RIGHT?
10:20:15AM THEY NEED A BUILDING.
10:20:17AM YOU HAVE COACH WRIGHT -- I CAN'T THINK OF IT, BUT IT'S NOT
10:20:30AM RIGHT.
10:20:30AM LEFT A BUILDING WITH A CONCESSION STAND FROM THE ONE THAT
10:20:33AM WAS IN WEST TAMPA AND WE NEED TO MAKE HIM WHOLE.
10:20:36AM SO YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO RENEGOTIATE THAT.
10:20:40AM I AM IN SUPPORT OF 42 AND 43.
10:20:47AM I SAW THE BAY NEWS 9 STORY THIS MORNING.
10:20:52AM SOMEBODY SENT IT TO ME.
10:20:53AM I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE COLUMBUS DRIVE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS
10:20:58AM EXACTLY THE TYPE OF INVESTMENT EAST TAMPA NEEDS.
10:21:02AM THIS IS THE KIND OF FORWARD THINKING DEVELOPMENT WE'VE BEEN
10:21:08AM ASKING FOR, THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR.
10:21:10AM AGAIN, AS LONG AS IT HAS HOUSING, I AM FOR IT.
10:21:14AM IF YOU ARE INCLUDING A TRAINING, THAT'S JUST ICING ON THE
10:21:19AM CAKE.
10:21:20AM ALL OF THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT OFFER TRAINING MAY NOT
10:21:23AM OFFER THIS TYPE OF TRAINING.
10:21:24AM SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ALSO.
10:21:27AM SO ANYTHING THAT'S DEALING WITH HOUSING, IF IT'S COMING WITH
10:21:30AM HOUSING, I AM 100% FOR IT.
10:21:32AM THANK YOU.
10:21:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:21:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:21:34AM MR. CHRIS KIRSHNER, STEVE MICHELINI, PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS.
10:21:40AM >> CHRIS KIRSHNER, LONGTIME RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER HERE
10:21:44AM IN THE GREAT CITY OF TAMPA.
10:21:46AM I JUST WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ITEM 42 AND 43.
10:21:51AM SO MANY POSITIVES WITH THIS PROJECT, I DON'T NEED TO BELABOR
10:21:55AM ALL THE WONDERFUL ATTRIBUTES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
10:21:58AM I DID WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AS WELL TO COMMEND THE
10:22:03AM LEADERSHIP WE HAVE IN THIS CITY, IN ADDITION TO THE COUNCIL
10:22:06AM AND THE MAYOR'S STAFF, THE EDC, FOR PROFIT, NOT-FOR-PROFIT
10:22:12AM ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS A
10:22:15AM REALITY, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
10:22:17AM A LOT OF EFFORT ON THE PART OF A LOT OF PEOPLE, CITY STAFF
10:22:20AM HAVE STEPPED UP TO FACILITATE.
10:22:25AM IT IS A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL INVESTMENT FOR THE DEVELOPERS
10:22:30AM THAT ARE INVOLVED.
10:22:32AM I'M JUST PROUD TO SEE IT AND PROUD OF OUR COMMUNITY AND
10:22:35AM EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.
10:22:37AM THANK YOU.
10:22:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:22:39AM MR. MICHELINI IS PASSING ON HIS TIME.
10:22:43AM PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS, YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER TODAY.
10:22:46AM PASTOR WILLIAMS, COME ON UP.
10:23:10AM >> THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
10:23:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR, FOR THE
10:23:17AM RECORD.
10:23:18AM YOUR NAME, SIR, FOR THE RECORD.
10:23:21AM >> FRANK WILLIAMS.
10:23:22AM I THOUGHT YOU JUST CALLED MY NAME.
10:23:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW, BUT FOR THE RECORD.
10:23:26AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:23:28AM >> YEAH.
10:23:28AM I PASSED OUT SOME LETTERS LAST WEEK, AND I WONDER IF I WOULD
10:23:35AM GET A RESPONSE.
10:23:37AM I TOLD WHOEVER PASSED THEM OUT TO PASS ONE OUT TO EACH ONE
10:23:41AM OF THE CHAMBER MEMBERS, BUT I DON'T SEEM TO GET NO RESPONSE
10:23:47AM WHATSOEVER.
10:23:47AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:23:49AM WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, PEOPLE THAT SAY THEY WANT TO HELP YOU,
10:23:56AM THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT.
10:23:58AM 90 DAYS OF BANK STATEMENTS, PROOF OF AWARD LETTER.
10:24:05AM WHAT'S ALL THAT ABOUT?
10:24:07AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:24:10AM THE ONLY THING I CAN SHOW THEM HOW POOR I AM AND LOOK LIKE
10:24:16AM YOU ALL OUGHT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
10:24:19AM ONE THING WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE NEED WOMEN AND MEN COME
10:24:23AM UP HERE AND SPEAK.
10:24:25AM SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR, BUT YOU ALL DON'T
10:24:29AM SEEM TO WANT TO HEAR.
10:24:31AM DON'T HEAR NOTHING WE BE SAYING.
10:24:34AM WE'RE JUST TALKING TO A WALL.
10:24:36AM ONE THING YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE'LL KEEP COMING AND YOU
10:24:40AM ALL HAVE TO KEEP LISTENING.
10:24:42AM DON'T WANT TO LISTEN, GET UP AND WALK OUT LIKE YOU USED TO
10:24:46AM DO A LONG TIME AGO.
10:24:47AM I WOULD BE HAPPY, WE'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE PEOPLE AND
10:24:54AM WE ARE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
10:24:55AM AND WE CAN'T BE NO CLOSER THAN THAT.
10:24:58AM YOU SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE BROTHERS AND SISTERS, BUT BROTHERS
10:25:03AM AND SISTERS, THAT IS TREATING US LIKE WE ARE LESS THAN DOGS.
10:25:11AM WE KNOW THAT WE GOT TO DO WHAT WE CAN FOR OURSELVES AND OUR
10:25:15AM CHILDREN, OUR MOTHERS AND OUR FATHERS, WHOEVER LIVING AND DO
10:25:19AM THE BEST WE CAN.
10:25:21AM I WOULD LIKE TO GET A REPLY WHAT YOU'LL DO ABOUT THE PEOPLE
10:25:29AM COMING AROUND WANTING TO STEAL MY HOME.
10:25:32AM PLEASE, YOU ALL CAN DO SOMETHING.
10:25:34AM YOU ARE CITY COUNCIL, AIN'T YOU?
10:25:36AM DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ALL OF US.
10:25:41AM I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS.
10:25:43AM I WANTED TO SING A SONG TO ONE OF MY BROTHERS THAT TOLD ME
10:25:47AM HE WANTED TO HEAR ME SING.
10:25:50AM THERE'S NO TIME FOR NO SINGING NOW.
10:25:52AM IT'S TIME FOR JUSTIFICATION.
10:25:54AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO STAND UP FOR.
10:25:56AM BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL DON'T CARE ABOUT US.
10:26:00AM WHO CAN WE GO?
10:26:02AM CAN WE GO DOWN TO THE COUNTY AND PROBABLY GET SOME -- JUST
10:26:09AM LIKE THE LADY SPOKE ABOUT, THE JACKSON HOUSE, STILL STANDING
10:26:13AM RIGHT THERE.
10:26:14AM HOUSE TORE DOWN A LONG TIME AGO BUT NOBODY TEAR.
10:26:20AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN.
10:26:21AM WE DIDN'T BUILD IT UP.
10:26:23AM YOU ALL GOT TO START TO TEAR THAT THING DOWN NOW, NOT WAIT
10:26:27AM UNTIL TOMORROW.
10:26:28AM NOT GIVE US FALSE PROMISES.
10:26:30AM TEAR THAT THING DOWN.
10:26:32AM GET RID OF IT.
10:26:33AM IN THE NAME OF JESUS, YOU ALL DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ALL OF
10:26:36AM US.
10:26:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:26:38AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:26:44AM WE'LL GO TO CONSENT AGENDA.
10:26:45AM FIRST IS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH 4 THROUGH 8, PUBLIC
10:26:49AM SAFETY.
10:26:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE 4-8.
10:26:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:26:52AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
10:26:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:53AM AYE.
10:26:54AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:26:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 22, NEIGHBORHOOD
10:27:01AM AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
10:27:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:27:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:27:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:07AM AYE.
10:27:07AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:08AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, 23 THROUGH 32.
10:27:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:27:11AM I MOVE ITEMS 23 THROUGH 32.
10:27:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:27:16AM HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:27:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:18AM AYE.
10:27:18AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:19AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:27:22AM YES, MA'AM.
10:27:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACTUALLY WANT TO JUST MENTION A COUPLE OF
10:27:25AM THINGS ABOUT 42 AND 43 BEFORE YOU APPROVE THEM.
10:27:34AM BECAUSE WE HAD THE CONVERSATION IN THE CRA LAST WEEK ABOUT
10:27:36AM HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THIS WAS $2.1 MILLION THAT
10:27:39AM THE CITY USED.
10:27:41AM THIS IS NOT CRA FUNDING.
10:27:42AM THIS IS CITY USED TO BUY THIS PROPERTY WHICH IS 2.1 ACRES.
10:27:46AM AND WITH THAT, THE COST PER UNIT OF 117 UNITS, LESS THAN
10:27:52AM $22,000.
10:27:55AM LESS THAN $22,000.
10:27:56AM THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING ELSE ATTACHED.
10:28:00AM THIS IS SIMPLY THE HOUSING PORTION.
10:28:03AM SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU ALL WHAT WE CAN DO WITH MONEY.
10:28:07AM EVERY TIME HOUSING STUFF COMES UP, I'LL BRING IT OUT BECAUSE
10:28:10AM WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH MONEY IN
10:28:13AM ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.
10:28:15AM OBVIOUSLY I'M IN SUPPORT.
10:28:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:28:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR 43, ALTHOUGH I OBJECT
10:28:22AM TO MANY THINGS IN IT.
10:28:23AM I ALSO WAS NOT GIVEN A BRIEF ON IT AT ALL.
10:28:26AM I DON'T KNOW IF THE NUMBERS YOU MENTIONED ARE TRUE OR NOT.
10:28:28AM THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT CITY COUNCIL IN DEPTH.
10:28:32AM THE RFP SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, WHETHER IT WAS
10:28:35AM TRANSPARENT, WHO THE OTHER BIDDERS WERE, ALL OF THAT.
10:28:37AM SURE WE CAN ASK QUIETLY, BUT THE PUBLIC HAS CONCERNS ABOUT
10:28:42AM HOW CONTRACTS ARE LET.
10:28:44AM SOMETIMES WHEN THE CITY IS INVOLVED IN THINGS, COSTS DO NOT
10:28:47AM APPEAR.
10:28:48AM THEY DON'T LIKE INCLUDING O AND M COSTS OR INTEREST.
10:28:51AM ALSO, I DID NOT SEE IN THE DOCUMENTS WHAT THE VALUE OF THE
10:28:53AM LAND WAS THAT WE'RE LEASING AT A DOLLAR A YEAR.
10:29:00AM I'LL VOTE FOR IT ANYWAY.
10:29:03AM I DON'T KNOW IF THE NUMBERS WERE TRUE.
10:29:04AM I WANT SOMEBODY TO PRESENT IT ALL IN.
10:29:06AM I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE
10:29:09AM TRANSPARENT ON THESE THINGS GOING FORWARD.
10:29:11AM WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE LIKE SOMEONE SAID IN THE COMMUNITY
10:29:13AM THAT WE'RE CONNECTING THE PUBLIC.
10:29:15AM ALSO 36, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
10:29:17AM WE HAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE COMING BACK.
10:29:19AM I'M NOT CONVINCED YET THAT THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD OR THEY
10:29:23AM HAVE PLANS TO DO ANYTHING.
10:29:25AM SOME FOLKS MENTIONED THAT IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:29:28AM I CAN VOTE FOR THIS.
10:29:29AM AGAIN, I'M CONSIDERING HOW MUCH CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN
10:29:32AM INVOLVED AND HOW MUCH I'VE BEEN INVOLVED FOR THE LAST 13
10:29:35AM YEARS, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT NO ONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION
10:29:38AM REACHED OUT TO GIVE ME A HEADS-UP ON THIS.
10:29:41AM I WOULD ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT TO ME
10:29:43AM AND TO THE PUBLIC ON THESE MATTERS.
10:29:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, DID YOU WANT
10:29:48AM TO SPEAK?
10:29:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:29:52AM I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ON ITEM 36 AND THE
10:29:58AM JACKSON HOUSE.
10:30:00AM I STILL THINK THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH DRAGGING FEET ON THIS.
10:30:02AM SOMETIMES IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK, IT IS A DUCK.
10:30:07AM SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE DONE.
10:30:09AM ON THE ISSUE OF 42 AND 43, I CONCUR WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH
10:30:15AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ON THIS.
10:30:16AM THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT.
10:30:17AM IT'S A GREAT BALANCE.
10:30:18AM IT PROVIDES A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:30:22AM PROVIDES A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE
10:30:25AM RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT, THE COST FOR THE INVESTMENT IS
10:30:30AM CLEARLY A BARGAIN FOR US.
10:30:32AM GREAT IDEA FOR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE EDC, THE COMMUNITY, THE
10:30:36AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:30:38AM IT IS A FOUNDATIONALLY A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:30:41AM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT.
10:30:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I FORGOT ONE THING.
10:30:45AM HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE UNITS WILL BE 80% AND BELOW WITH SOME
10:30:49AM -- WITH QUITE A FEW SET ASIDE FOR 50% AND BELOW.
10:30:52AM THIS IS A FULLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:30:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:30:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:30:58AM ITEM 36, THE JACKSON HOUSE, WHILE I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE
10:31:02AM PUBLIC'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE, I JUST WANT TO GO
10:31:05AM ON RECORD THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT OWN THIS PROPERTY.
10:31:08AM IT IS OWNED BY THE FOUNDATION.
10:31:10AM WE DO WANT TO SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF GETTING IT DONE BUT WE
10:31:13AM ARE NOT IN CHARGE OF THAT AT THIS MOMENT.
10:31:18AM I WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMING
10:31:21AM BEFORE US.
10:31:22AM I DON'T WANT THEM TO THINK IT IS US HOLDING IT UP.
10:31:24AM WE DO NEED TO GET SOME CLARITY FROM THE FOUNDATION ON THE
10:31:29AM STATUS OF WHY THE PROJECT HAS NOT STARTED BECAUSE THE
10:31:31AM FUNDING DOES EXIST.
10:31:33AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT ON THE RECORD.
10:31:36AM 42 AND 43 IS IN MY DISTRICT.
10:31:40AM I MET WITH THE EDC VERY EARLY ON AS A NEW MEMBER OF CITY
10:31:46AM COUNCIL AND CONTINUE TO MEET WITH THEM AND HAVE THE
10:31:48AM DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
10:31:50AM THE HOUSING PORTION THAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS A GREAT
10:31:54AM PROJECT AND ALSO I JUST WANT TO SAY THE OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS
10:32:00AM OF CULINARY IS NOT THE ONLY THING.
10:32:03AM IT IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET STARTED AND SEEK THOSE WAYS
10:32:07AM THAT MANUFACTURING, TRAINING PROGRAMS CAN COME INTO THAT
10:32:11AM FACILITY.
10:32:12AM YOU HAVE TO GET STARTED.
10:32:13AM WE CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING UP FRONT, BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY
10:32:17AM THERE FOR US TO BUILD MEANINGFUL, SKILLED, HIGH SKILLED
10:32:22AM TRAINING PROGRAMS IN THAT FACILITY AND AT THE SAME TIME
10:32:25AM WE'RE PROVIDING HOUSING.
10:32:27AM THE EDC, THIS IS THEIR FIRST CRACK AT IT AND I WANT TO
10:32:31AM COMMEND THEM ON MAKING THIS EFFORT AND INVESTING IN EAST
10:32:33AM TAMPA IN THIS WAY.
10:32:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS A RARE TIME THAT I AGREE WITH
10:32:40AM FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:32:40AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:32:40AM WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY HERE, WHEN THINGS COME AROUND THAT
10:32:49AM LOOK TOO GOOD, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM A LITTLE
10:32:52AM DEEPER.
10:32:52AM THIS PROJECT IS GOOD.
10:32:54AM I DON'T COME FROM THIS LOCATION BUT COME FROM CLOSE TO IT.
10:33:01AM I CAN TELL YOU, YOU HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY, A
10:33:05AM HAND UP INSTEAD OF A PUSH DOWN TO KEEP MOVING.
10:33:08AM NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IN LIFE.
10:33:11AM IT'S INCUMBENT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY.
10:33:15AM INCUMBENT ON THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY, NO
10:33:17AM MATTER WHAT IT IS OR WHAT JOB IT IS, TO BE THE BEST YOU CAN
10:33:20AM BE TO MOVE UP THE LADDER, NOT DOWN THE LADDER.
10:33:23AM I AGREE WITH 42 AND 43 AND THE OTHER ONE THAT THEY BROUGHT
10:33:28AM UP, ITEM 36.
10:33:32AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID THIS IS SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN
10:33:35AM US, HOWEVER WE ARE THE RUDDER OF THE SHIP AND STARING IN THE
10:33:41AM RIGHT DIRECTION.
10:33:42AM I IMAGINE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS YOU'LL SEE MOVEMENT.
10:33:47AM SPECULATION THAT THIS HOUSE WILL BE STARTED TO BE REBUILT
10:33:50AM WITH SOME OF THE LUMBER ON THE PROPERTY NOW.
10:33:54AM IT WILL BE A HYBRID OF WHAT IT WAS.
10:33:59AM I'M TAKING A SHOT IN THE DARK LIKE I SAID EARLIER.
10:34:01AM THANK YOU ALL FOR UNDERSTANDING.
10:34:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:03AM BEFORE WE VOTE, 42 AND 43 I'M IN ABSOLUTE SUPPORT.
10:34:07AM IN THE LAST CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS NOW TWO YEARS AGO, IT WAS ALL
10:34:10AM ABOUT HOUSING.
10:34:11AM THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF COST-EFFECTIVE INVESTMENTS FOR
10:34:18AM BUILDING HOUSING AT THE 80%, SOME WERE EVEN 50%.
10:34:22AM IT'S CHIPPING AWAY AT THAT GOAL.
10:34:25AM I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT.
10:34:27AM I THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL START.
10:34:28AM IT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT.
10:34:30AM ITEM 36 WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN VISITING
10:34:36AM THAT PROPERTY FOR OVER TEN YEARS.
10:34:38AM I'VE BEEN PHOTOGRAPHING IT, WATCHING IT IN DECLINE.
10:34:41AM IF YOU LOOK AT MY PHOTOS FROM 2014 TO NOW IT'S NIGHT AND
10:34:46AM DAY.
10:34:46AM I TOURED THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE IN 2020.
10:34:49AM I HAVE PHOTOS WHICH I'M HAPPY TO SHOW.
10:34:51AM I WOULDN'T EVEN WALK IN IT TODAY BECAUSE IT'S DECLINED SO
10:34:55AM MUCH.
10:34:56AM AS COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA SAID, IN RESTORING THAT HOUSE,
10:34:59AM IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU DO A FRAME RESTORATION ON A CLASSIC CAR,
10:35:03AM YOU PULL IT APART, THAT HOUSE WILL BE PULLED APART.
10:35:06AM YOU'LL BE SHORING UP THE FOUNDATION AND THE BASIC
10:35:09AM INFRASTRUCTURE AND USING A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL WOOD.
10:35:11AM IT'S WOOD AND THIS IS A TROPICAL CLIMATE, AND IT WILL GET
10:35:16AM RESTORED.
10:35:17AM UNFORTUNATELY OVER THE YEARS, SO MANY ROADBLOCKS BECAUSE I
10:35:20AM BROUGHT IT UP WITH PAST LEADERS AND CURRENT LEADERS, I DON'T
10:35:25AM KNOW WHY.
10:35:26AM CENTRAL AVENUE WAS DEMOLISHED 50 YEARS AGO.
10:35:31AM SO MUCH OF THE HISTORY IS LOST.
10:35:32AM MY WIFE, WHO IS STUDYING TO GET HER MASTERS, ACTUALLY, I
10:35:36AM THINK -- SHE TOLD ME SHE DID A REPORT OR ASSIGNMENT AND IT
10:35:40AM WAS ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
10:35:41AM SHE WAS SO FASCINATED BY IT.
10:35:44AM SHE GOES, WHAT CAN WE SEE WITH IT?
10:35:46AM I CAN SHOW YOU THE JACKSON HOUSE, LONGSHOREMEN'S BUILDING,
10:35:50AM COUPLE OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES, A CHURCH RESTORED BUT I GO
10:35:55AM IMAGINE DEMOLISHING YBOR CITY, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
10:35:58AM THE JACKSON HOUSE IS SO SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF ITS HISTORY.
10:36:03AM PEOPLE THAT STAYED THERE.
10:36:05AM IT'S ONE OF THE LAST REMNANTS OF A BYGONE ERA THAT NEEDS TO
10:36:09AM BE PROTECTED.
10:36:10AM I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
10:36:14AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:36:18AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:36:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE THE MOTION BUT I WANT TO ADD ONE
10:36:22AM MORE THING, STARTING FOUR TO FIVE YEARS AGO, I STARTED
10:36:27AM PRESENTING TAMPA SCORECARD, TAMPA SCORECARD.COM AND
10:36:31AM SOMETHING I WORKED OUT WITH THE USF ECONOMISTS AND OTHERS.
10:36:34AM WHAT IT SHOWED, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, THE
10:36:36AM MIDDLE CLASS IN TAMPA MOSTLY SHRANK.
10:36:40AM THE DISPARITIES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN AND BLACKS AND WHITES
10:36:42AM GOT WORSE.
10:36:43AM THE HOME OWNERSHIP RATE WAS TERRIBLE, AND WE NEEDED TO TURN
10:36:46AM THAT AROUND.
10:36:47AM AT THE TIME, THE EDC WAS MOSTLY FOCUSED ON RECRUITING
10:36:51AM COMPANIES FROM OUT OF MARKET.
10:36:52AM SINCE THAT TIME, THE EDC SPENT SEVERAL YEARS WORKING ON TRY
10:36:56AM TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM IN EAST TAMPA AND WORKED WITH HCC AND
10:37:01AM USF AND OTHERS.
10:37:02AM I'VE HAD LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH CRAIG RICHARDS, TONY BROWN,
10:37:07AM SOME OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE EDC AND ALSO NICOLE AND ALIS
10:37:14AM WHEN THEY WERE HERE.
10:37:15AM I DON'T OBJECT TO THE PROJECT ITSELF.
10:37:16AM I OBJECT TO THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WITHIN THE CITY.
10:37:19AM PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE GUTS OF THE ECONOMIC
10:37:21AM DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT LEFT.
10:37:25AM STILL WE NEED TO GIVE MORE TRANSPARENCY FOR THIS KIND OF
10:37:28AM THING FOR THE CITY.
10:37:28AM I WISH THE EDC THE BEST.
10:37:31AM I HOPE THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS AND THAT IT IS
10:37:33AM TRANSFORMATIVE.
10:37:34AM WITH THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS 33 THROUGH 42,
10:37:39AM INCLUDING THE SUBSTITUTE ON 42.
10:37:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THROUGH 43.
10:37:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: SUBSTITUTE ON 43.
10:37:43AM SORRY.
10:37:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:37:46AM SECOND FROM HENDERSON.
10:37:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:37:47AM AYE.
10:37:47AM NEXT UP IS COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 44 THROUGH 47.
10:37:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 44 THROUGH 47.
10:37:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CLENDENIN.
10:37:58AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
10:37:59AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:38:00AM AYE.
10:38:01AM ITEM NUMBER 48 IS TO BE SCHEDULED, A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR
10:38:09AM MARCH 27, 2025, 1:30 P.M.
10:38:11AM RIGHT HERE, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
10:38:15AM MOTION FROM HENDERSON SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PETITION
10:38:18AM FOR REVIEW.
10:38:19AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:38:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:38:21AM AYE.
10:38:22AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:38:24AM ALL RIGHT.
10:38:24AM WE ARE AT 10:38, SO WE CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:38:27AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 AND 10:30 HEARINGS?
10:38:32AM MOTION FROM HURTAK AND SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
10:38:34AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:38:35AM LEE BELL IS IN THE HOUSE.
10:38:38AM REPRESENTING YBOR CITY.
10:38:41AM WE HAVE THE ITEMS OPEN.
10:38:46AM ITEM NUMBER 49 IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL, BUT THE REST OF THEM
10:38:51AM ARE.
10:38:51AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY PUBLIC HEARING FROM 49
10:38:57AM THROUGH 52, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL
10:39:00AM SWEAR YOU IN.
10:39:04AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:39:10AM MR. SHELBY.
10:39:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:39:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED TO HAVE A FULL COUNCIL.
10:39:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK WE DO.
10:39:15AM AND THEY ARE IN THE BUILDING.
10:39:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS TO MAKE
10:39:18AM SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS UP HERE BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME TIE
10:39:21AM VOTES HERE.
10:39:21AM WE'LL HAVE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS TO GIVE THEM THE
10:39:24AM OPPORTUNITY.
10:39:24AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:39:25AM [RECESS]
10:49:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY
10:49:48AM COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
10:49:50AM IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL AT THIS TIME.
10:49:52AM >> CARLSON?
10:49:53AM HURTAK?
10:49:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
10:49:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
10:49:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
10:49:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:49:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:49:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:49:58AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:50:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:50:01AM BEFORE WE START THE HEARINGS, I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY TAKE UP
10:50:05AM ITEMS 56, 57, 58 AND 59.
10:50:08AM IF I CAN GET A MOTION?
10:50:10AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:50:12AM MIRANDA.
10:50:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:50:15AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:50:15AM AYE.
10:50:17AM ALL RIGHT.
10:50:17AM WE ARE GOING TO START WITH ITEM 49.
10:50:25AM MR. SHELBY.
10:50:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:50:28AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:50:30AM THIS ITEM, NUMBER 49, IS HERE PURSUANT TO RULE 6-H OF
10:50:36AM COUNCIL'S RULES IN THAT AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS WHEN
10:50:40AM THE ORDINANCE WAS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:50:43AM ADOPTION, IT DID NOT GET A MAJORITY VOTE PER THE CHARTER.
10:50:48AM IT WAS A TIE VOTE AND IT RETURNS TODAY BECAUSE COUNCIL
10:50:52AM MEMBER CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT THE TIME HAS RETURNED.
10:50:55AM YOU HAVE A FULL COUNCIL NOW.
10:50:57AM I SHOULD ALSO POINT FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD THAT THERE IS
10:51:01AM A QUASI-JUDICIAL REZONING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
10:51:05AM TRAVELING WITH THIS, ITEM NUMBER 50.
10:51:07AM ITEM NUMBER 50 DID NOT HAVE A VOTE WHEN PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:51:11AM READING AND ADOPTION.
10:51:12AM RATHER THE MOTION WAS TO CONTINUE IT TO TODAY, TO RUN
10:51:16AM CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS DUE TO THE 3-3 VOTE UNDER RULE 6H.
10:51:22AM NOW, THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IS THERE ARE
10:51:26AM SEVERAL HEARINGS TODAY WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WAS
10:51:31AM ABSENT.
10:51:32AM I WOULD LIKE TO FOR THE RECORD ASK COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON,
10:51:34AM HAVE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE RECORD AND ARE
10:51:38AM YOU PREPARED TO VOTE ON THESE ITEMS THIS MORNING?
10:51:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:51:41AM I WAS THERE FOR THE FIRST HEARING ON THESE.
10:51:44AM SO HEARD THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.
10:51:46AM AND THEN I WATCHED THE VIDEO THE OTHER DAY.
10:51:49AM THERE WAS ONE THAT INCORRECTLY SAID I VOTED AGAINST IT.
10:51:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 49.
10:51:55AM CARLSON, MIRANDA, MANISCALCO, NO.
10:51:57AM BUT IT SHOWS THAT YOU WERE ABSENT.
10:51:59AM IS THAT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
10:52:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS IN RED ON 49 WAS THE FIRST READING
10:52:05AM VOTE.
10:52:05AM I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION.
10:52:07AM SO EVERYBODY KNOWS AND THE PUBLIC ALSO KNOWS, NUMBER 49,
10:52:11AM FILE VAC 23-30, THE VOTES IN RED WERE NO VOTES.
10:52:18AM IS THAT CORRECT, AS FAR AS PEOPLE KNOW?
10:52:20AM AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED IS, THE VOTE ON -- ON THE LAST
10:52:28AM REGULAR MEETING ON JANUARY 9 WAS A 3-3, AND YOU HAVE THE
10:52:32AM COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO VOTED AT THAT TIME VOTING NO AND COUNCIL
10:52:35AM MEMBER CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
10:52:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: AT THE MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, YOU SAID THERE
10:52:40AM WAS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR, THAT SAID I VOTED NO.
10:52:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS IT CORRECTED ON THIS ONE?
10:52:46AM WHAT YOU HAVE --
10:52:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS ALL CORRECT?
10:52:50AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
10:52:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CLERK INDICATES THAT, YES, THIS IS ALL
10:52:55AM CORRECT.
10:52:57AM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
10:52:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW WITH REGARD TO THIS, COUNCIL, MR.
10:53:02AM MALLOY, WHO IS PRESENT AND REPRESENTS THE APPLICANT IN THIS
10:53:06AM CASE, BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION A PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS
10:53:11AM ISSUE.
10:53:11AM I REQUEST COUNCIL TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BOTH BRING
10:53:15AM IT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD.
10:53:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE DO, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:53:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO BRING ONE THING UP, 49 NAMING
10:53:24AM OF THE STREETS BUT NO ADDRESSES.
10:53:26AM 50 IT HAD THE NUMBER OF STREETS WITH THE ADDRESSES ON IT.
10:53:30AM I WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE HERE IT SAYS I MOVED IT, WHICH I
10:53:35AM DID, CHAIRMAN ASKED ME TO MOVE IT.
10:53:37AM I MEMORIZE NUMBERS.
10:53:39AM I DON'T MEMORIZE STREETS WHEN I VOTE ON SOMETHING.
10:53:42AM THE NUMBERS I MEMORIZE LIKE PHONE NUMBERS SO THAT'S WHAT I
10:53:46AM DID.
10:53:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MALLOY.
10:53:49AM >> WILLIAM MALLOY, SOUTH BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:53:52AM COUNCIL MEMBERS, I MADE A MISTAKE LAST TIME WHEN WE
10:53:55AM PRESENTED THE VACATION.
10:53:57AM I DID NOT BRING UP OUR SUPPORT.
10:53:58AM WE HAVE CITIZENS HERE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE ALLEY, THE
10:54:01AM AFFECTED CITIZENS HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.
10:54:05AM THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF IT.
10:54:06AM I DIDN'T BRING THEM UP LAST TIME.
10:54:09AM I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT IF YOU COULD HEAR THEIR
10:54:11AM VOICES TODAY.
10:54:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVE TO HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:54:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:54:15AM CLENDENIN.
10:54:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:54:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:54:18AM AYE.
10:54:19AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:54:19AM ARE YOU THE APPLICANT FOR 49?
10:54:26AM >> WE CAN PRESENT OR GO RIGHT TO CITIZEN TESTIMONY.
10:54:29AM THE CASE HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE FIRST READING.
10:54:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO ADD, WE'LL OPEN
10:54:34AM IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:54:36AM WE HAVE NOBODY REGISTERED.
10:54:37AM IT'S ALL IN PERSON.
10:54:38AM PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE
10:54:41AM MINUTES.
10:54:42AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:54:43AM ALSO, MR. SHELBY.
10:54:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES OR COMMENTS FROM
10:54:47AM THE PUBLIC THAT REQUIRE REBUTTAL FROM MR. MALLOY, I'LL ASK
10:54:51AM HIM TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:54:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE'LL HAVE THE FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL
10:54:54AM TIME.
10:54:55AM >> TONY MONK.
10:54:56AM I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
10:54:58AM ACTUALLY, TWO WEEKS AGO, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NOT HAVE
10:55:00AM BEEN IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
10:55:01AM SINCE THEN WE'VE HAD A COLLABORATIVE, VERY PRODUCTIVE
10:55:04AM CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPERS.
10:55:07AM AS PART OF THE WHOLE SITE PLAN, THEY HAVE ADDRESSED OUR
10:55:09AM CONCERNS.
10:55:10AM WE CAN TALK IN THE REZONING PART ABOUT HOW MAYBE WE CAN MAKE
10:55:13AM SOME OF THOSE PROPOSALS BINDING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST
10:55:15AM THEIR WORD, WHICH IS GREAT.
10:55:17AM BUT AS FAR AS THE ALLEY VACATION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NEVER
10:55:22AM PARTICULARLY OPPOSED TO THAT.
10:55:23AM WE WERE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE SITE PLAN STUFF,
10:55:26AM ACCESS ON TO THE NEXT ALLEY OVER THAT BROUGHT THE TRAFFIC
10:55:30AM FURTHER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:55:31AM WE THINK PROCEDURALLY, TO GET TO THAT CONVERSATION, WE NEED
10:55:35AM TO SUPPORT THIS ALLEY VACATION SO THAT WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT
10:55:38AM ITEM, WHICH IS THE REZONING.
10:55:40AM WE WOULD SUPPORT THE ALLEY VACATION AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK
10:55:43AM UP HERE AND TALK TO YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REZONING
10:55:46AM AND WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE AND WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS
10:55:49AM OFFERED, WHICH WE ACCEPT.
10:55:51AM LIKE WE SAID LAST TIME, AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN'S
10:55:53AM POINT, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE CITY.
10:55:56AM WE SUPPORT IT.
10:55:56AM WE SUPPORT THE WALKABILITY.
10:55:58AM WE SUPPORT PRIORITIZING PEOPLE AND QUALITY OF LIFE OVER
10:56:02AM AUTOMOBILES.
10:56:02AM WE THINK IT'S GENERALLY PRETTY GOOD.
10:56:04AM AND IT IS THE BEST DEAL ON THE TABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:56:06AM SO WE'D HATE TO UNDO IT AND REALLY LIKE TO KEEP MOVING
10:56:11AM FORWARD IN A POSITIVE WAY AND REALLY ENCOURAGED BY THE
10:56:14AM DEVELOPER COMING TO THE TABLE WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND HAVING
10:56:17AM THAT CONVERSATION AND ADDRESSING OUR CONCERNS.
10:56:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR.
10:56:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: ARE YOU REPRESENTING YOUR OWN OPINION OR ON
10:56:25AM THE BOARD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION?
10:56:27AM >> I'M REPRESENTING BOTH THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AND THE
10:56:29AM BOARD.
10:56:30AM AND WE CAN HAVE THE BOARD COME UP HERE AND SPEAK ALSO.
10:56:33AM THE LETTER WE SUBMITTED IS SIGNED BY THE BOARD.
10:56:37AM IT WAS SENT EARLIER THIS WEEK.
10:56:38AM THAT REPRESENTS THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE THEIR
10:56:41AM SPECIFIC CONCERNS AND THE LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.
10:56:44AM BOTH ENTITIES.
10:56:47AM WE'RE ALL IN SUPPORT.
10:56:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:48AM NEXT SPEAKER FOR ITEM 49.
10:56:54AM THIS IS JUST THE VACATING.
10:56:57AM MR. MALLOY, YOU SAID YOU HAD SUPPORTERS OR WAITING FOR THE
10:57:00AM REZONING.
10:57:00AM >> I MAY HAVE USED THE PLURAL.
10:57:03AM THESE ARE OUR SUPPORTERS.
10:57:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK?
10:57:08AM IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY NOW, THERE IS ALWAYS THE REZONING
10:57:13AM COMING UP NEXT.
10:57:14AM DO YOU HAVE ANY REBUTTAL, SIR?
10:57:17AM >> EVERYTHING MR. MONK SAID, WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENDORSE.
10:57:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:57:24AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:57:25AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE READING 49?
10:57:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL NOW.
10:57:29AM GAVE ME THE LONG ONE.
10:57:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST FOR YOU.
10:57:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S MY PENALTY.
10:57:35AM ITEM 49, FILE NUMBER VAC-23-30, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
10:57:39AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:57:41AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
10:57:45AM CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT
10:57:47AM ALLEYWAY/RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF AMELIA AVENUE, SOUTH
10:57:50AM OF COLUMBUS DRIVE, EAST OF GLENWOOD DRIVE, AND WEST OF NORTH
10:57:53AM BOULEVARD WITHIN THE PLAT OF RIDGEWOOD PARK SUBDIVISION IN
10:57:56AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE
10:57:59AM FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
10:58:02AM COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY
10:58:05AM SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES
10:58:08AM FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS
10:58:11AM AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
10:58:15AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:58:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND, EXCEPT GLENWOOD DRIVE --
10:58:20AM [INDISCERNIBLE]
10:58:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:58:22AM MIRANDA.
10:58:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:58:24AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:58:25AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION --
10:58:32AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:58:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS NOW FOR THE REZONING, ITEM 50,
10:58:42AM EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SWORN IN.
10:58:43AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:58:44AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:58:47AM ITEM 50, REZ 25-12, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:58:52AM 702 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, 2502 AND 2504 NORTH BOULEVARD AND
10:58:57AM FOLIO NUMBER 183355-0005.
10:59:01AM REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50
10:59:04AM COMMERCIAL GENERAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
10:59:06AM DEVELOPMENT FOR STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, ALL COMMERCIAL
10:59:08AM NEIGHBORHOOD USES.
10:59:09AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED
10:59:12AM TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:59:14AM MYSELF AND MOBILITY ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT
10:59:16AM YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
10:59:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
10:59:19AM ALL RIGHT.
10:59:21AM YES, SIR, COME ON UP.
10:59:23AM NO.
10:59:23AM OKAY.
10:59:24AM ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR?
10:59:27AM MR. SCOTT?
10:59:29AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:59:31AM >> JONATHAN SCOTT, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
10:59:32AM THE COUNCIL ASKED THAT MOBILITY LOOK INTO DEFINITELY
10:59:37AM ONE-WAYING THE ALLEY.
10:59:39AM WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT.
10:59:42AM OPEN TO THE IDEA AND IT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE
10:59:44AM RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITTING PROCESS, WHICH WOULD BE SEPARATE
10:59:47AM FROM THIS REZONING APPLICATION, BUT WE DID DISCUSS IT.
10:59:50AM I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORS AS FAR
10:59:52AM AS THAT AS WELL.
10:59:53AM I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND PUT THAT --
10:59:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:59:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL ABOUT THAT.
11:00:01AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
11:00:02AM BUT CAN YOU REPORT WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT
11:00:06AM DECIDED ABOUT THAT?
11:00:08AM IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO OR DO NOT SUPPORT?
11:00:12AM >> WE WOULD SUPPORT IT IF THERE WAS LOTS OF TRAFFIC IN THE
11:00:16AM ALLEY.
11:00:17AM IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO ONE WAY IT, BUT NOW THERE ARE
11:00:21AM OTHER DISCUSSIONS COME UP.
11:00:23AM TYPICALLY THE ALLEYS ARE ALWAYS ONE WAY -- I MEAN, TWO WAY,
11:00:27AM BUT WE WERE OPEN TO THAT IDEA.
11:00:30AM IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF THERE WAS LOTS OF TRAFFIC ON IT.
11:00:33AM YOU ARE CORRECT --
11:00:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:37AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:00:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:00:39AM YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
11:00:40AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:00:42AM >> THANK YOU.
11:00:43AM ISABEL ALBERT, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
11:00:47AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN HAD.
11:00:48AM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT HERE TO LOOK A BIT AT THE HISTORY OF
11:00:52AM THE PROJECT AND HOW WE ENDED UP HERE TODAY.
11:00:55AM THIS IS NOT A LARGE DEVELOPER.
11:00:58AM THIS IS A HUSBAND AND WIFE TEAM.
11:01:00AM THEY REALLY FELL IN LOVE WITH TAMPA.
11:01:05AM THEY ARE ORIGINALLY FROM TEXAS, BUT SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE
11:01:07AM PURCHASED A HOUSE IN THE AREA AND THEY HAVE DECIDED TO
11:01:10AM INVEST IN THIS COMMUNITY.
11:01:12AM BY DOING THAT, IT STARTED AS A CORNER LOT, AS YOU REMEMBER A
11:01:16AM COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, STARTED AS A CORNER LOT AND WE RECEIVED
11:01:19AM A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS COUNCIL.
11:01:22AM NOT ONLY THAT, THEY WON AN AWARD FROM THE PLANNING
11:01:26AM COMMISSION FOR THE DESIGN AND PLANNING PORTION CATEGORY OF
11:01:29AM IT.
11:01:30AM THAT ENCOURAGED THEM TO GO FORWARD FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.
11:01:34AM IT JUST SO HAPPENS THE TWO NORTHERN LOTS BECAME AVAILABLE
11:01:37AM AND THEREFORE THEY PURCHASED THAT, WE WENT THROUGH A
11:01:40AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AFTER THAT.
11:01:42AM WE GOT UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL AND NOW LED US TO
11:01:47AM THIS REZONING.
11:01:49AM AS STAFF STATED, WE DID REVISE THE PLAN TO MEET ALL THE
11:01:58AM REVISIONS ON THE SHEET.
11:02:00AM YOU ALSO HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REPRESENTING THE
11:02:04AM ASSOCIATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THEM AS
11:02:06AM WELL.
11:02:06AM A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE REVISION SHEET OR THIS
11:02:12AM AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN MR. SATTERLY AND THE
11:02:17AM NEIGHBORS ARE STUFF THAT COULD NOT BE IMPLANTED ON THE SITE
11:02:21AM PLAN AT THIS TIME.
11:02:23AM WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO FIRST READING TO BE ENFORCEABLE.
11:02:26AM BUT WE DID HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND MRS.
11:02:32AM ALDERMAN, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION, HAS BEEN
11:02:34AM IN DISCUSSION WITH MR. SATTERLY SINCE THEN AND DISCUSSING
11:02:38AM THE TYPE OF USES THAT WERE COMING IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:02:41AM HE KEPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVED AND UP TO DATE ON THE
11:02:47AM PROCESS.
11:02:47AM AS YOU SEE ON THE LETTER THAT YOU RECEIVED, MOST IMPORTANT
11:02:52AM ITEMS YOU HEARD IN THE PAST AND THAT YOU WILL HEAR AGAIN
11:02:55AM TODAY, ONE OF THEM WAS TO ADD THE GATE.
11:02:57AM THE GATE WAS BASICALLY JUST A SIMPLE GATE THAT WOULD BE
11:03:03AM CLOSED AT ALL TIMES BUT IT WOULD BE OPEN DURING THE DAYS OF
11:03:06AM SOLID WASTE COMING IN.
11:03:08AM BUT OTHERWISE, IT WOULD BE KEPT CLOSED TO ELIMINATE THE
11:03:12AM TRAFFIC THAT THE NEIGHBORS TALKED ABOUT.
11:03:13AM AND THE OTHER ITEM THAT WAS RAISED AT THE LAST HEARING SAID
11:03:18AM MAYBE YOU CAN ADD SOME SIGNAGE.
11:03:20AM IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD AGREE TO AS SIGNAGE THAT
11:03:24AM PROHIBITS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC IN THIS ALLEY.
11:03:29AM THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED TO DO SO.
11:03:31AM THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED.
11:03:34AM I WILL GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO SPEAK ON
11:03:38AM THOSE ITEMS.
11:03:39AM BUT WE DO HAVE THE SUPPORT, AS YOU HEARD, THE SUPPORT FROM
11:03:42AM THIS ASSOCIATION, BUT AS WELL AS THE TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:03:44AM TAMPA HEIGHTS IS HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE
11:03:47AM EXACTLY ADJACENT TO IT, AND EXPRESSED THEIR EXCITEMENT FOR
11:03:52AM THIS PROJECT.
11:03:53AM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:03:55AM I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT TO COME IN SUPPORT AND
11:03:58AM ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:04:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:04:01AM YEAH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE
11:04:05AM TO SAY.
11:04:05AM IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 50, THIS IS
11:04:08AM THE REZONING, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:04:11AM YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:04:13AM MR. MONK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
11:04:15AM >> TONY MONK.
11:04:16AM I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
11:04:18AM I'LL SPEAK GENERALLY FOR THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS
11:04:21AM AND THE BOARD.
11:04:22AM IF I MISS SOMETHING, THEY MAY COME UP AND SPEAK AFTER ME TO
11:04:25AM FILL IN GAPS.
11:04:27AM WE'LL TRY TO KNOCK IT OUT IN ONE GO.
11:04:30AM WE SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE PLAN AS SHOWN CONTINGENT
11:04:33AM ON OUR CONCERNS BEING ADDRESSED AND WHAT MS. ALBERT SHOWED.
11:04:36AM THE THING WE NEED TO BE MOST DURABLE IS THE GATE THAT WOULD
11:04:40AM LIMIT ACCESS, THAT SOLVES ALMOST ALL THE SAFETY AND VISION
11:04:43AM ZERO AND WALKABILITY CONCERNS BECAUSE IT KEEPS THE TRAFFIC
11:04:46AM SORT OF CONCENTRATED TO THIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THE
11:04:49AM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, AND IT KEEPS IT FROM GOING FURTHER INTO
11:04:52AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:04:52AM WE JUST HAD A LOT OF FAMILIES WITH YOUNG KIDS MOVE INTO THE
11:04:55AM AREA, SO THEY ARE RUNNING BACK AND FORTH IN THAT AREA ACROSS
11:04:58AM THE STREET, MAKING USE OF THE THIRD SPACES.
11:05:00AM WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
11:05:03AM WE WOULD LIKE CITY COUNCIL TO HELP US MAKE THAT PARTICULAR
11:05:09AM THING DURABLE, WHETHER THAT MEANS ATTACHING THAT SKETCH TO
11:05:11AM THE SITE PLAN OR MOTIONING IN, INCLUDE A GATE AS DISCUSSED.
11:05:16AM IF THERE'S SOME WAY TODAY TO MAKE THAT DURABLE AND THEY CAN
11:05:19AM CONTINUE, THAT'S GREAT.
11:05:21AM WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE ENFORCEABLE.
11:05:23AM IT MIGHT GET SOLD, MIGHT NOT BE THE SAME DEVELOPER, WHATEVER
11:05:27AM MIGHT HAPPEN, THEN THE GATE GOES AWAY OR STAYS OPEN, WE WANT
11:05:31AM A DOCUMENT WE CAN POINT TO, HEY, YOU ALL, CLOSE THE GATE.
11:05:35AM IT'S NOT JUST FOR EVERYBODY TO COME AND GO AT ALL HOURS.
11:05:38AM THAT IS THE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE MOST DURABLE.
11:05:42AM EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY RESOLVABLE THROUGH THE SITE PLAN
11:05:45AM REVIEW PROCESS IF THE COUNCIL WOULD SUGGEST THAT CITY STAFF
11:05:47AM WORK IN GOOD FAITH TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.
11:05:51AM CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC WAS ALREADY MENTIONED.
11:05:53AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MUCH THAT CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL CAN
11:05:57AM DO ABOUT THAT.
11:05:57AM THAT'S MORE US WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER.
11:05:59AM TO REQUEST ANYTHING WE CAN, CAN CODE ENFORCEMENT HELP OUT OR
11:06:02AM CAN THE INSPECTION DEPARTMENT HELP OUT DURING CONSTRUCTION,
11:06:05AM LIKE, HEY, THE DEVELOPER SAID THEY WOULDN'T DRIVE THE HEAVY
11:06:09AM TRUCKS IN THE ALLEY BEHIND THE HOUSES, THAT WOULD BE SUPER.
11:06:12AM ONE WAYING OF THE ALLEY, NEIGHBOR AT 2503 NORTH GLENWOOD,
11:06:15AM THE WAY THEIR GARAGE AND DRIVEWAY IS CONFIGURED ONE WAY
11:06:19AM WOULD MAKE IT WHERE THEY CAN'T REALLY GET IN AND OUT. THAT
11:06:22AM GOES TO THE NEXT POINT, FROM A VISION ZERO PERSPECTIVE, WE
11:06:25AM WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KEEP THAT ALLEY PAVEMENT AS NARROW AS
11:06:28AM IT CAN BE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE A MAIN
11:06:31AM DRIVEWAY TO THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE
11:06:33AM JUST COME ON THROUGH THERE.
11:06:34AM AS YOU ALL HAVE LEARNED IN YOUR TIME, THE WIDER THE PAVEMENT
11:06:37AM IS THE FASTER PEOPLE GO.
11:06:39AM AS NARROW AS WE CAN KEEP THAT THINKING ABOUT VISION ZERO,
11:06:42AM TRAFFIC CALMING, SAFETY, THAT WOULD BE SUPER.
11:06:44AM I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANYTHING WE NEED TO MAKE ON THE SITE
11:06:46AM PLAN, BUT JUST GETTING THAT, JUST A REQUEST OF STAFF PERHAPS
11:06:51AM TO WORK IN GOOD FAITH.
11:06:54AM WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF ON THE GRAND TREE ROOTS AND THEN THE
11:06:57AM EXTERIOR LIGHT FIXTURES ABOUT NOT SEEING THE LIGHT LAMP
11:07:02AM SHINE AT YOU, WE CAN WORK AT PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS.
11:07:06AM GETTING THE GATE IS MOST DURABLE.
11:07:09AM INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW COUNCIL OR HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO
11:07:13AM HELP US WITH THAT.
11:07:14AM I'LL YIELD IN CASE ANYBODY ELSE.
11:07:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:07:17AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:07:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN THEY MAKE A CHANGE IN THE SITE PLAN AT
11:07:25AM THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS?
11:07:30AM >>CATE WELLS: GOOD MORNING.
11:07:31AM CATE WELLS FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:07:33AM WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUEST TO INCLUDE A GATE ON THE SITE
11:07:35AM PLAN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE SITE PLAN TO BE AMENDED AND FOR
11:07:39AM THIS ITEM TO GO BACK TO FIRST READING.
11:07:41AM I APPRECIATE THAT EVERYBODY IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT,
11:07:45AM WANTS TO EXPEDITE APPROVAL, BUT SIMPLY ATTACHING THIS LETTER
11:07:49AM TO THE SITE PLAN WOULD NOT BE ANY INDICATION TO STAFF OR
11:07:52AM ANYBODY ELSE AS TO WHAT THE INTENT IS.
11:07:54AM SO IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, IF COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE
11:07:57AM OF THE PROJECT, AND THE DEVELOPER IS RECEPTIVE TO AMENDING
11:08:03AM THE SITE PLAN TO SHOW THE GATE AND INCLUDE A NOTE ABOUT HOW
11:08:07AM IT'S TO BE OPERATED, THAT THAT BE INCLUDED IN COUNCIL'S
11:08:12AM MOTION AND THIS CAN GO BACK TO FIRST READING TODAY AND THEN
11:08:17AM SECOND READING SCHEDULED WITHIN TWO TO THREE WEEKS, WHENEVER
11:08:21AM THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS.
11:08:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
11:08:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO -- I DON'T KNOW WHETHER
11:08:30AM STAFF WILL ADDRESS THIS, BUT WITH THE OTHER ITEMS, IN TERMS
11:08:33AM OF WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
11:08:37AM READING, MY UNDERSTANDING, THE WAY THINGS WORK, EVERYTHING
11:08:41AM SHOULD BE IN THE REVISION SHEET BY A DIRECTION OF COUNCIL
11:08:44AM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING IF IT IS, IN FACT,
11:08:48AM ENFORCEABLE, NEEDS TO BE PLACED ON THE SITE PLAN.
11:08:50AM >>CATE WELLS: WHAT I HEARD IS THE REMAINING ITEMS WOULD BE
11:08:53AM ADDRESSED DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS, SO THEY WOULD NOT
11:08:55AM NEED TO BE INCLUDED ON THE SITE PLAN.
11:09:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:09:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK I'M GOING TO REITERATE WHAT
11:09:03AM MS. WELLS JUST SAID.
11:09:06AM IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE
11:09:09AM APPLICANT THAT THIS WOULD BE ADDRESSED INFORMALLY DURING THE
11:09:16AM ZONING PROCESS AND AFTER THE ZONING PROCESS, YOU GUYS -- IN
11:09:20AM OTHER WORDS, IF THIS WAS A CHOICE BETWEEN SENDING THIS BACK
11:09:23AM TO FIRST READING OR YOU GUYS WORKING OUT THIS PROCESS NOW,
11:09:28AM YOU HEARD SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY?
11:09:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
11:09:31AM MS. WELLS JUST SAID WE HAVE -- THAT BASICALLY WE WOULD DO A
11:09:34AM FIRST READING TODAY, RIGHT NOW.
11:09:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEN IT WOULD GO BACK TO SECOND --
11:09:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, TWO WEEKS.
11:09:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
11:09:43AM I'M SAYING DO THEY WANT US TO GO BACK TO A FIRST READING
11:09:46AM TODAY AND HAVE THIS COME BACK TO US AGAIN TO MAKE THESE
11:09:50AM CHANGES?
11:09:52AM >> WILLIAM MALLOY AGAIN.
11:09:54AM IF I FOLLOWED CORRECTLY, NOT SURE I ENTIRELY DID, ARE WE
11:09:57AM TREATING TODAY AS POSSIBLY A FIRST READING SO WE CAN COME
11:10:00AM BACK FOR SECOND READING WITH THE CHANGE ON THE SHEET
11:10:04AM ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE ALL FOR IT.
11:10:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYBODY IS GOOD WITH THAT.
11:10:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
11:10:11AM ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS ASK AND SEE IF THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO
11:10:15AM THE APPLICANT.
11:10:16AM HE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
11:10:18AM >> WONDERFUL.
11:10:18AM MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE.
11:10:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS THE CASE, IF WE
11:10:22AM CAN BRING IT TO FIRST READING TODAY AND PUT THOSE ITEMS ON
11:10:25AM THE SITE PLAN THAT WERE MENTIONED, NOT THE PERMITTING
11:10:29AM ITEMS --
11:10:29AM >> WE CAN PUT ON THE SITE PLAN, YES, SIR.
11:10:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL GLADLY SUPPORT AND SUPPORT IT AT
11:10:35AM SECOND READING.
11:10:35AM I SEE THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE THAT LIVE
11:10:38AM RIGHT THERE ADJACENT.
11:10:39AM I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, BUT WHEN NEIGHBORS COME OUT, I
11:10:43AM TRY TO LISTEN.
11:10:44AM MY VOTING RECORD IS NOT PERFECT, BUT I WANT TO BE
11:10:47AM RESPECTFUL.
11:10:48AM IF THE ATTORNEYS, THE APPLICANTS ARE AMENABLE TO TAKING IT
11:10:52AM TO FIRST READING TODAY AND THEN ADDING THOSE ON THE SITE
11:10:54AM PLAN FOR SECOND READING, YOU'LL HAVE MY SUPPORT ALL THE WAY
11:10:58AM THROUGH.
11:11:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO WANT TO SAY, AGAIN, SAY IT OUT LOUD AND
11:11:04AM ON THE RECORD HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE WHEN DEVELOPERS WORK
11:11:07AM WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO FINALIZE EVEN THESE LITTLE THINGS.
11:11:11AM IT CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN A PROJECT.
11:11:14AM AS YOU'VE SEEN AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT
11:11:17AM AND BEING NOT JUST REACHING OUT BUT STAYING CONNECTED
11:11:21AM THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, IT IS A NIGHT AND DAY FROM THE
11:11:24AM FIRST TIME THIS WENT THROUGH AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU
11:11:26AM FOR THAT.
11:11:27AM WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT MOVING FORWARD.
11:11:29AM >> THANK YOU.
11:11:30AM IT IS OUR WHOLE TEAM AND THE CITIZENS, TOO.
11:11:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES
11:11:34AM TO SPEAK?
11:11:34AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:11:38AM YES, MA'AM.
11:11:38AM COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:11:41AM >> CANDICE PORTER.
11:11:42AM I LIVE AT 2503 NORTH GLENWOOD.
11:11:46AM I'M IN THE GARAGE THAT EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT.
11:11:49AM I WON'T BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF MY GARAGE.
11:11:52AM ALSO, MY 16-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER, IF SHE HAS TO PULL OUT ON
11:11:55AM COLUMBUS, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.
11:11:57AM I'M AGAINST A ONE-WAY.
11:12:03AM THANK YOU.
11:12:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:07AM ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
11:12:09AM YES, MA'AM.
11:12:10AM COME ON UP.
11:12:11AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:12:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:12:17AM MEGAN ETUE.
11:12:18AM 2507 NORTH GLENWOOD.
11:12:22AM ALSO THE TREASURER OF RIDGEWOOD PARK.
11:12:25AM I REPRESENT BOTH.
11:12:26AM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
11:12:27AM AGAIN, EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.
11:12:29AM WE HAVE WORKED A LOT OF HOURS WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE
11:12:32AM OWNER, TEAMS CALLS AT NIGHT DURING OUR OFF HOURS, PUTTING
11:12:36AM THE KIDS TO BED, TRYING TO GET THIS TO WORK OUT.
11:12:40AM WE ARE REALLY APPRECIATE OF THE DIALOGUE.
11:12:43AM MY HUSBAND SAID, TONY MONK, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
11:12:47AM CONSTRUCTION ACCESS IS LIMITED ON THAT ALLEY.
11:12:50AM WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE LIGHTING IS TAKEN CARE OF SO
11:12:53AM DOWN-SHIELDED.
11:12:54AM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE GAS STATION AND ALL THE OTHER STORES
11:12:56AM THAT BLARES RIGHT INTO OUR BACKYARD.
11:12:59AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TWO WAY FOR THE ALLEY FOR OUR
11:13:03AM NEIGHBORS.
11:13:04AM WE THINK THIS IS A WIN-WIN, BUT THE GATE IS ABSOLUTELY A
11:13:06AM NECESSITY BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC GOING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:13:09AM EVEN FURTHER, PROTECTING THE KIDS, PROTECTING THE ANIMALS,
11:13:13AM PROTECTING EVERYBODY IN THE AREA.
11:13:14AM SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS, BUT WE ARE VERY HAPPY
11:13:17AM THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME TO A CONCLUSION.
11:13:19AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:13:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:13:21AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:21AM YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
11:13:23AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:13:26AM >> HELLO.
11:13:26AM MY NAME IS JESSICA HINES.
11:13:28AM I LIVE AT 708 WEST AMELIA.
11:13:31AM I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
11:13:32AM I LIVE ACROSS FROM -- NOT ON THE ALLEY OF THE REZONING BUT I
11:13:37AM LIVE ACROSS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.
11:13:39AM I'M ALSO THE SECRETARY OF THE RIDGEWOOD PARK CIVIC
11:13:42AM ASSOCIATION, BUT I'M HERE REALLY TO TALK MORE ON BEHALF OF
11:13:47AM THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE SMALL CHILDREN.
11:13:50AM I HAVE TWO TODDLERS.
11:13:51AM SO SAFETY WAS THE BIGGEST CONCERN OF THIS WITH THE VACATION
11:13:56AM OF THE ALLEY AND THE TRAFFIC COMING FURTHER INTO THE
11:14:00AM NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WAS OUR BIGGEST CONCERN.
11:14:05AM I THINK ALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE
11:14:09AM GATE SOLVES THAT.
11:14:11AM SO WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT, THE REZONING, AS
11:14:17AM LONG AS THAT INCLUDES THAT GATE.
11:14:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:19AM ANYBODY ELSE?
11:14:21AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:14:23AM SECOND -- WAIT, DO YOU NEED REBUTTAL?
11:14:27AM >> NO, SIR.
11:14:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
11:14:29AM STAFF, THEY SEEM TO BE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN.
11:14:32AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- CAN WE MOVE FORWARD OR DO WE HAVE
11:14:41AM CONVERSATION?
11:14:44AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT
11:14:46AM AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
11:14:47AM I WAS NOT SWORN IN FOR THIS BECAUSE I DID NOT PLAN TO SPEAK
11:14:50AM ON IT.
11:14:51AM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT STAFF IN GETTING THIS WHERE IT
11:14:54AM NEEDS TO BE
11:14:55AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:14:56AM I DO.
11:14:59AM THANK YOU.
11:14:59AM SO IN SUPPORTING WHAT MS. WELLS AND THIS NEEDS TO GO BACK ON
11:15:05AM FIRST READING.
11:15:06AM UNLIKE YOUR TYPICAL READINGS, THERE'S NO REVISION SHEET
11:15:10AM BECAUSE THE REVISIONS ARE COMING FORWARD FROM THE DEVELOPER,
11:15:13AM NOT FROM STAFF AS STAFF HASN'T REVIEWED SOME OF WHAT'S BEEN
11:15:16AM GOING ON.
11:15:17AM LET ME JUST ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:15:21AM I'M GOING TO LET SAM READ ALL THE CONDITIONS IN.
11:15:24AM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE
11:15:27AM BEEN SAID.
11:15:27AM WE'LL WORK THAT OUT AT PERMITTING.
11:15:29AM WE'LL WORK THAT OUT AT PERMITTING.
11:15:31AM IF THERE IS AN EXPECTATION BEING PLACED ON THIS DEVELOPMENT,
11:15:33AM I NEED TO KNOW THAT NOW.
11:15:36AM I CAN'T THEN PUT IT INTO PERMITTING AND THE EXPECTATION OF
11:15:39AM THIS BOARD IS NOT FULFILLED AT THAT TIME.
11:15:42AM SO ONE THING I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AND ONCE I SAY THIS, MR.
11:15:47AM MALLOY MAY WANT TO HAVE REBUTTAL CONVERSATION.
11:15:50AM SO ONE THING IS THAT ALLEY IS A 16-FOOT PLATTED ALLEY.
11:15:54AM IT IS NOT SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
11:15:57AM THE DIMENSION IS NOT.
11:15:58AM I JUST DID TALK WITH MS. ALBERT, THAT DOES NEED TO BE ADDED
11:16:02AM IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
11:16:04AM I'LL HAVE SAM CAN READ IN EVERYTHING COLLECTIVELY.
11:16:07AM I WANT TO TALK TO A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS.
11:16:09AM I HEAR MR. MONK IN WHAT HE HAS SAID ABOUT MAKING IT MORE
11:16:14AM NARROW.
11:16:15AM AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS IN WEST TAMPA WHERE
11:16:18AM YOU NEED TO LEAVE ENOUGH DIMENSION IN THE ALLEY FOR THEM TO
11:16:22AM BE ABLE TO PULL IN AND OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND NOT CREATE
11:16:25AM A VISIBILITY OR OTHER PROBLEM.
11:16:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK I HEARD HIM TO SAY TO SHRINK
11:16:31AM IT.
11:16:31AM I THINK I HEARD HIM TO KEEP IT AS NARROW AS POSSIBLE, WHICH
11:16:35AM TO ME, I UNDERSTOOD IT TO MEAN LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS NOW.
11:16:39AM YEAH, THAT IS --
11:16:40AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: 16-FOOT WOULD REMAIN.
11:16:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:16:44AM HE'S SAYING HE DOESN'T WANT IT WIDENED, PAVED.
11:16:49AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WHAT IS THE PAVED DIMENSION?
11:16:52AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:16:56AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS IS GOING TO NEED TO GO THROUGH THE
11:16:58AM RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITTING PROCESS WHEN THEY CHANGE OR ADDRESS
11:17:00AM THE ALLEY.
11:17:01AM I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY IS NOT GOING TO SAY THE
11:17:04AM SAFEST IS 14-FOOT OR 12-FOOT OR WHATEVER.
11:17:07AM IT IS AT 16 WITH 10-FOOT OF FAULT RIGHT NOW.
11:17:12AM WHEN THEY IMPROVE THAT FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO COME
11:17:15AM OFF OF THIS PROJECT AND OTHER STUFF AND PROBABLY ACCOMMODATE
11:17:19AM FOR STORMWATER, THAT TEN FEET MAY CHANGE.
11:17:22AM I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITTING PROCESS IS
11:17:25AM GOING TO DO ON THAT.
11:17:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WE CAN SAY THAT IT WOULD BE NO WIDER THAN
11:17:30AM 16 BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS ALLOWED FOR, PLATTED.
11:17:34AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS WHAT IT PLATTED AND THAT IS WHERE
11:17:37AM THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD TAKE PLACE, WITHIN THAT 16 FEET, BE
11:17:40AM THAT THE PAVEMENT PLUS ANY STORMWATER, GRADING THAT MAY NEED
11:17:44AM TO BE DONE OR THE CROWN OF THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.
11:17:47AM IT WOULD NOT BE WIDER THAN 16, BUT I THINK WHAT THE
11:17:50AM NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN LIVING WITH RIGHT NOW IS 10 AND THAT'S
11:17:53AM WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE KEPT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE
11:17:56AM THE EXPECTATION THAT ONCE IT GOES THROUGH RIGHT-OF-WAY
11:17:59AM PERMITTING THAT IT MAY NOT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.
11:18:03AM THE COMMITMENT THEY WERE ASKING FOR WAS MINIMIZE PAVEMENT
11:18:09AM WITH AN ALLEY FOR TRAFFIC CALMING, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND
11:18:14AM VISION ZERO.
11:18:15AM IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO COMMIT TO THAT, I WOULD ADD TO THE
11:18:19AM END THAT IT IS SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITTING
11:18:21AM PROCESS.
11:18:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS THAT THERE'S
11:18:26AM COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON HOW THEY CAN PUT
11:18:34AM THEIR INPUT WHEN THAT PART COMES UP.
11:18:37AM LIKE WHEN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, HOW DOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:18:40AM CONNECT WITH THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITTING AT THE TIME?
11:18:44AM I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THROUGH STAFF, BUT I THINK AFTER
11:18:47AM THIS, I WOULD LOVE IF SOMEONE FROM STAFF COULD SPEAK TO THE
11:18:51AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND LET THEM KNOW HOW THEY CAN BE A PART OF
11:18:53AM THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS.
11:18:57AM >> JONATHAN SCOTT, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:18:59AM THAT CAN BE A DISCUSSION WE WOULD HAVE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:19:03AM DURING THAT PROCESS.
11:19:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:19:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
11:19:07AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I MIGHT SUGGEST IS
11:19:11AM THAT THE DEVELOPER COULD HAVE THE OPTION IF THEY WANTED TO
11:19:14AM SIGN THE CONSTRUCTION ROUTE SO THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE
11:19:17AM SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS IN A CERTAIN AREA.
11:19:21AM THEY COULD PUT THAT ON THEIR FENCING OR PUT THAT IN ANOTHER
11:19:25AM WAY JUST TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL THAT COMMITMENT.
11:19:29AM I KNOW THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE TALKED ABOUT AS POTENTIALLY
11:19:32AM BEING WISHY-WASHY.
11:19:33AM THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO MR. MALLOY AND WHETHER OR NOT HIS TEAM
11:19:36AM WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.
11:19:37AM OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT SAM WILL DO IS READ IN EVERYTHING ELSE
11:19:40AM FOR YOU AND THEN YOU WOULD MAKE THE MOTION WITH THE
11:19:42AM REVISIONS AS READ IN BY STAFF.
11:19:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:19:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN.
11:19:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAM OR MS. FEELEY, THE ISSUE WITH THE
11:19:52AM GATE, IT BEING INSTITUTIONALIZED IN PERPETUITY BETWEEN FIRST
11:19:58AM AND SECOND READING, YOU ALL WILL HAVE THAT LANGUAGE OR WORK
11:20:01AM WITH THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE THE LANGUAGE?
11:20:07AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO WITH THE ADDITION OF A NOTE THAT THE GATE
11:20:11AM -- IS THE GATE SET BACK SO THERE WON'T BE A QUEUING PROBLEM
11:20:17AM IN THE ALLEY?
11:20:21AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:20:22AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WOULD SAY THAT YOU COULD ADD AS A COUNCIL
11:20:28AM CONDITION TO THIS REZONING THAT AS A COUNCIL CONDITION OF
11:20:31AM THE APPROVAL, AND THE NOTE WOULD SAY EXACTLY THAT, THAT THE
11:20:35AM GATE MUST BE INSTALLED AND MUST BE MAINTAINED THROUGH THE
11:20:38AM LIFE OF THE PROJECT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
11:20:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO AS A COUNCIL AND
11:20:43AM NOT SOMETHING THEY DO BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
11:20:46AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT.
11:20:49AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT WILL BE IN YOUR MOTION.
11:20:51AM I THINK THE QUESTION OF PERPETUITY AND THE ABILITY TO REMOVE
11:20:53AM THAT, YOU CAN KIND OF SOLIDIFY THAT WITH YOU MAKING IT A
11:20:59AM COUNCIL MOTION.
11:21:03AM BECAUSE IF IT IS OPTIONAL AT THE POINT OF THE DEVELOPER, I
11:21:08AM THINK WHAT IS BEING SAID HERE IS THAT YOU WANT IT INSTALLED
11:21:11AM AND YOU WANT IT TO REMAIN AND BE OPERATIONAL.
11:21:14AM IF THAT IS THE CASE, I WOULD PROBABLY ADD THAT.
11:21:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING
11:21:22AM ABOUT THE ALLEY, THAT IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE PROCESS
11:21:26AM THAT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
11:21:27AM WE HEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE ALLEY, BUT
11:21:31AM THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE HANDLED AS A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM
11:21:34AM THIS REZONING APPLICATION.
11:21:36AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, IT IS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.
11:21:38AM TYPICALLY THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE THE
11:21:42AM BOUNDARY OF THE --
11:21:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK IN TO CLOSE SO
11:21:46AM PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD IT WAS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE
11:21:50AM APPLICATION PROCESS.
11:21:51AM >> JONATHAN SCOTT, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:21:52AM I MISSPOKE.
11:21:54AM APPLICANT WAS LOOKING TO PUT THE GATE AT THE PROPERTY LINE
11:21:57AM AND NOT SET IT BACK AND HAVE IT SLIDE IN, NOT TO AFFECT THE
11:22:00AM RIGHT-OF-WAY OR SWING OUT OR ANYTHING.
11:22:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE FOR STAFF
11:22:12AM WHETHER THAT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WITH REGARD TO THE
11:22:17AM SETBACK ON THE SITE PLAN OR NOT, AS A DIRECTION OF COUNCIL
11:22:22AM AS A CONDITION?
11:22:24AM >>CATE WELLS: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING
11:22:27AM FOR IT TO BE SET BACK.
11:22:28AM THE DRAWING ATTACHED TO THE CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE
11:22:30AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SHOWED THE GATE ON THE PROPERTY
11:22:33AM LINE.
11:22:33AM THAT'S WHAT JONATHAN SCOTT JUST CONFIRMED AND THAT THE GATE
11:22:37AM WILL SLIDE IN AND OUT.
11:22:38AM THERE WILL ALSO BE A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN WITH RESPECT TO
11:22:41AM THOSE DAYS WHICH THE GATE CAN BE LEFT OPEN.
11:22:44AM SO WITH REGARD TO USE OF THE GATE.
11:22:46AM BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GATE WILL NOT BE SET
11:22:49AM BACK.
11:22:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER HEARING ALL THAT, ANY FURTHER
11:22:54AM REBUTTAL, MR. MALLOY?
11:22:56AM IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:23:00AM >> NO.
11:23:00AM I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
11:23:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL
11:23:04AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:23:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:23:06AM YES.
11:23:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONDITIONS READ
11:23:09AM IN.
11:23:10AM I THINK IT SHOULD BE READ IN AS PART OF THE RECORD BEFORE
11:23:16AM YOU CLOSE.
11:23:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL RETRACT THE MOTION.
11:23:19AM MR. SHELBY.
11:23:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
11:23:26AM I THINK THEY WILL BE FINALIZING IT.
11:23:28AM AS PART OF YOUR MOTION TO MAKE IT ENFORCEABLE AND TO GIVE
11:23:32AM IT, AS MS. WELLS SAID, PERMANENCY, IT HAS TO BE A MOTION AND
11:23:36AM A CONDITION OF COUNCIL SO STATED ON THE SITE PLAN.
11:23:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.
11:23:44AM WE'LL JUST WAIT --
11:23:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT I STILL AS I
11:23:49AM SAID IN THE FIRST HEARING, I REALLY AM IMPRESSED BY THIS
11:23:53AM PROJECT.
11:23:54AM I FEEL THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND THE CRITICAL
11:23:56AM INTERSECTION THAT THIS IS BEING DEVELOPED ON, IT IS A
11:23:59AM PERFECT BALANCE BETWEEN HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL AND STREET
11:24:03AM FACING DEVELOPMENT, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND PERFECT
11:24:07AM INTEGRATION WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND WILL END
11:24:11AM UP BEING SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE A JEWEL FOR
11:24:16AM BOTH THE RIDGEWOOD PARK AND TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:24:20AM I WISH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS AREA WOULD LEARN FROM THIS
11:24:22AM AS FAR AS THE TYPE OF, AGAIN, THE APPROPRIATE MIX OF
11:24:26AM DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW THE
11:24:29AM AMENITIES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:24:31AM THANK YOU.
11:24:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:32AM ONE MOMENT AS THEY WRAP IT UP.
11:24:36AM WHEN MS. FEELEY GIVES A THUMBS UP.
11:24:43AM HOW ABOUT THIS COLD WEATHER?
11:25:13AM GOING TO BE A COLD GASPARILLA.
11:25:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M THINKING ABOUT HAVING TO BUY PROPER, WARM
11:25:27AM UNDERGARMENTS.
11:25:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PETTICOAT.
11:25:33AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:25:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, ALL THOSE FANCY -- THEY HAVE ALL THIS
11:25:38AM TECHNOLOGY NOW.
11:25:39AM ALL THE THIN T-SHIRTS.
11:25:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COSTCO.
11:25:51AM THIS WAS NOT A COMMERCIAL ENDORSEMENT FOR COSTCO.
11:26:04AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:26:05AM I THINK WE HAVE THESE WORKED OUT.
11:26:07AM BEAR WITH ME WHILE I TRY TO READ THESE QUICKLY.
11:26:10AM REVISION NUMBER ONE WOULD BE ADDING THE WIDTH OF THE ALLEY,
11:26:15AM SHOWING THAT IT IS 16 FEET WIDE.
11:26:16AM THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE.
11:26:17AM SECOND ONE WOULD BE ADDING A NOTE TO THE SITE PLAN THAT THE
11:26:21AM ALLEY ENTRANCE TO THE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY WOULD ADD A
11:26:25AM GATE THAT WOULD BE ONLY -- ADD A GATE AND THE ENTRANCE WOULD
11:26:28AM ONLY BE FOR SOLID WASTE.
11:26:29AM THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE --
11:26:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ADD TO THAT?
11:26:34AM IT WILL BE INSTALLED AND MAINTAINED FOR THE LIFE OF THE
11:26:38AM PROJECT.
11:26:38AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: YES.
11:26:39AM THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE THAT CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC ON THE
11:26:53AM GLENWOOD ALLEY, WHICH IS THE ALLEY OFF OF THE ENTRANCE TO
11:26:56AM THE SUBJECT SITE WILL BE SIGNED FOR CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC NOT
11:27:00AM TO ENTER OR TO USE THE ALLEY AT ALL.
11:27:02AM THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE TO MINIMIZE THE PAVEMENT WIDTH IN THE
11:27:08AM ALLEY FOR TRAFFIC CALMING AND SUBJECT TO PERMITTING --
11:27:18AM RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITTING.
11:27:19AM AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE TO PRESERVE THE GRAND TREE
11:27:23AM ROOTS.
11:27:24AM WE WOULD ADD A NOTE THAT THE GRAND TREE ROOTS WOULD BE
11:27:26AM PRESERVED AT ABOVE GRADE CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES FOR ANY NEW
11:27:29AM PAVEMENT IN THE ALLEY WITHIN THE TREE PROTECTIVE ZONE AND
11:27:33AM ALSO ADD A NOTE TO THE SITE PLAN REGARDING EXTERIOR LIGHTING
11:27:38AM FEATURES, NO SPILLAGE ONTO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
11:27:41AM THAT WOULD BE ALL THE REVISIONS WE WOULD HAVE DONE BETWEEN
11:27:45AM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
11:27:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THE REBUTTAL?
11:27:51AM WE CAN CLOSE?
11:27:52AM >> WE ARE MORE THAN FINE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.
11:27:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM CLENDENIN AND
11:27:56AM SECOND BY MIRANDA.
11:27:57AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:27:58AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:27:59AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, COMFORTABLE WITH READING --
11:28:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:28:02AM I WROTE DOWN THE REVISION AS WELL AS I COULD.
11:28:05AM I KNEW THIS WAS ONE.
11:28:08AM I MOVE FOR FIRST READING AND ADOPTION AN ORDINANCE REZONING
11:28:12AM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 702 WEST COLUMBUS, 2502
11:28:16AM AND 2504 NORTH BOULEVARD AND FOLIO NUMBER 183355-0005 IN THE
11:28:22AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
11:28:24AM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60,
11:28:28AM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND PD
11:28:32AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, STOREFRONT
11:28:35AM RESIDENTIAL, ALL COMMERCIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD USES PROVIDING
11:28:37AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE WITH THE ADDITIONAL AND PLEASE, COUNCIL,
11:28:40AM IF I --
11:28:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK YOU CAN SAY ADOPT HIS REVISIONS.
11:28:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: I ADOPT THE REVISIONS.
11:28:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:28:48AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA SINCE THIS IS A FIRST
11:28:51AM READING, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:28:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:28:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:28:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:28:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:29:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:29:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:29:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:29:03AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:29:05AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 20th,
11:29:09AM 2025, AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
11:29:14AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:29:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:33AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:29:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT WAS RENAMED IN '64 OR '66.
11:29:43AM WHEN WAS GRAND CENTRAL RENAMED TO KENNEDY BOULEVARD?
11:29:46AM YEAH, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE.
11:29:50AM ITEM NUMBER 51.
11:30:00AM IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FOR 51?
11:30:04AM YES, SIR.
11:30:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 51, REZ 24-52, AGAIN
11:30:32AM WAS A TIE VOTE ON JANUARY 9, PURSUANT TO RULE 6-H.
11:30:37AM AGAIN, AS YOU SEE THE NAMES IN RED AFTER THE FILE NUMBER ARE
11:30:44AM THE VOTES AT THE FIRST READING AND THE DISCUSSION AT THE END
11:30:48AM IS THE VOTE OF A 3-3 TIE.
11:30:51AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON BEING ABSENT, HE HAS PREVIOUSLY
11:30:54AM INDICATED THAT HE IS PREPARED TO VOTE.
11:30:57AM WHAT YOU HAVE NOW IS YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION COMPLETE.
11:31:03AM DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY, OF STAFF OR THE
11:31:09AM APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?
11:31:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:31:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:31:13AM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT MY CHANGE OF VOTE AND I WANTED TO
11:31:17AM READ INTO THE RECORD MY REASONING BEHIND IT.
11:31:20AM SPECIFICALLY CONSIDERING WHAT WE JUST APPROVED ON ANOTHER
11:31:29AM CORNER OF COLUMBUS, I FIND THAT SECTION 27-136, SUBSECTION
11:31:37AM 1, THIS DOES NOT PROMOTE THE SUFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE
11:31:43AM OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF
11:31:46AM POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING IMPACTED
11:31:49AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.
11:31:51AM WHICH TO ME GOES WITH SUBSECTION 2 WHICH IS ALLOWING THE
11:31:56AM INTEGRATION OF DIFFERENT LAND USES AND DENSITIES IN ONE
11:31:59AM DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE PROVIDED FOR OR
11:32:02AM ALLOWED UNDER GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT ESTABLISHED IN THIS
11:32:05AM CHAPTER, WHICH ENCOURAGE COMPATIBILITY AND OVERALL SITE
11:32:08AM DESIGN AND SCALE BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL TO THE PROJECT.
11:32:11AM WHAT I MEAN BY COMPATIBILITY, FOR ME, THE COMPATIBILITY IS
11:32:17AM THE COMPATIBILITY WITH BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THERE
11:32:21AM JUST ISN'T ENOUGH IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
11:32:24AM WHICH GOES TO THE SUBSECTION 7, PROMOTING A MORE DESIRABLE
11:32:28AM LIVING AND WORKING ENVIRONMENT THAN WOULD BE POSSIBLE
11:32:30AM THROUGH THE STRICT APPLICATION OF MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF
11:32:32AM OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS.
11:32:34AM I JUST BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH
11:32:37AM COMMERCIAL IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT'S SHOWN THAT
11:32:39AM SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INCLUDE MORE
11:32:43AM COMMERCIAL.
11:32:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:45AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:32:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GUESS I'M GOING TO REITERATE MY LACK OF
11:32:52AM SUPPORT FOR THE SAME VERY REASON.
11:32:53AM IT'S INTERESTING IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, IT DISCUSSES
11:32:59AM RESIDENTIAL, BASICALLY MIXED USE WITH COMMERCIAL STOREFRONT,
11:33:03AM COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES AND ALL.
11:33:06AM BUT IT IS SO DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL
11:33:10AM SPACE AND STOREFRONT SPACE IS SO DE MINIMIS, HONEST TO GOD,
11:33:16AM LET'S BE HONEST AND CALL IT WHAT IT IS.
11:33:19AM THAT'S APARTMENTS ON A VERY IMPORTANT INTERSECTION IN THE
11:33:22AM CITY OF TAMPA WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE THINGS THAT
11:33:27AM ARE VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS IN THESE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THAT
11:33:31AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT SO OFTEN OF CREATING THE
11:33:34AM INTERSECTIONS OF VIABILITY AND SOMETHING THAT REALLY IS AN
11:33:37AM ASSET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:33:39AM I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT AS FAR AS AESTHETICS.
11:33:44AM I THINK THAT THE DENSITY AND MASSING OF THE PROJECT IS
11:33:47AM APPROPRIATE.
11:33:47AM I THINK THAT SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS THEY MADE, BEING
11:33:50AM CONCERNED WITH THE NEIGHBOR WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND
11:33:52AM INSIGHTFUL.
11:33:54AM MY BIGGEST CONCERN, AGAIN, A MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.
11:33:57AM VERY IMPORTANT INTERSECTION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:33:59AM GOD BE WILLING BEFORE I LEAVE HERE, WE'LL HAVE A STREETCAR
11:34:03AM ON ITS WAY TO BE IN FRONT OF THIS AND AN INTEGRAL PART OF
11:34:07AM TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND AS SUCH, IT SHOULD
11:34:09AM HAVE AMENITIES BEFITTING ITS LOCATION.
11:34:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:34:15AM ANYBODY ELSE?
11:34:15AM IF NOT, WE GO TO THE APPLICANT.
11:34:22AM HELLO, SIR.
11:34:29AM >> MY NAME IS TYLER HUDSON.
11:34:31AM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
11:34:33AM IN CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. SHELBY YESTERDAY, WE DID NOT KNOW
11:34:36AM WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT ALL TODAY.
11:34:38AM IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN A VOTE STARTS AND IT'S 3-3,
11:34:41AM YOU IMMEDIATELY GO INTO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:34:43AM I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M STANDING HERE.
11:34:45AM I'LL SAY THAT BASED ON THE LAST PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE AS A
11:34:50AM MATTER OF PURE LAW THAT YOU COULD CHARACTERIZE THIS HEARING
11:34:54AM RIGHT NOW AS A FIRST READING.
11:34:57AM I WOULD ASK MARTY TO CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS TRUE.
11:35:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
11:35:04AM IT'S BEEN ADVERTISED AS A SECOND READING.
11:35:09AM IT'S ALSO PURSUANT TO A TIE VOTE AND THE REMEDY FOR THAT IS
11:35:13AM SET FORTH IN THE ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE.
11:35:17AM SO I GUESS THE OPPORTUNITY WAS IF THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU
11:35:20AM NEEDED TO ADDRESS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, AND WHICH
11:35:24AM YOU DID, YOU'RE SAYING AS A MATTER OF LAW THERE SHOULD BE A
11:35:27AM FIRST READING?
11:35:28AM >> WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THIS COUNCIL.
11:35:32AM WE NEED TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
11:35:35AM WE ARE GOING TO BE FILING A NON-SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
11:35:38AM DETERMINATION REGARDING RETAIL TO INCREASE IT.
11:35:42AM THIS COULD BE CHARACTERIZED AS A FIRST READING AND WE WOULD
11:35:44AM ADD IT TO THE REVISION SHEET.
11:35:46AM BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING SINCE THIS WAS ADVERTISED SECOND
11:35:49AM READING, THE LAST HEARING WAS ALSO ADVERTISED AS SECOND
11:35:52AM READING, WE CAN'T MAKE THAT CHANGE.
11:35:54AM IF COUNCIL WANTS TO ADOPT SPECIFIC CONDITION, ONE WE'RE
11:36:00AM WILLING TO PUT ON THE RECORD.
11:36:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THE QUESTION IS IF IT'S YOUR POSITION
11:36:12AM THAT THE PROJECT WILL CHANGE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
11:36:14AM READING --
11:36:15AM >> THIS IS SECOND READING.
11:36:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT YOUR REQUEST WITH SPECIFIC CHANGES
11:36:21AM JUST AS WE DID IN THE LAST HEARING TO SET FORTH WHAT THE
11:36:24AM CONDITIONS ARE THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE NOT ON A REVISION SHEET
11:36:30AM BUT --
11:36:30AM >> AS A MOTION OF COUNCIL, YES.
11:36:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT YOUR REQUEST THEN TO DO THAT AT THIS
11:36:36AM MEETING TO SET FORTH WHAT THE CHANGES WOULD BE?
11:36:38AM >> YES.
11:36:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND TO GIVE COUNCIL THE OPTION IF THEY
11:36:41AM AGREE TO THOSE CHANGES TO SET IT THEN FOR FIRST READING?
11:36:44AM AND THEN HEAR IT WITH THE REVISIONS JUST -- I'M SORRY.
11:36:51AM >> COUNCIL, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE VOTE ON THE PROJECT AS
11:36:56AM IT IS.
11:36:56AM ONCE THE QUASI-JUDICIAL PERIOD IS OVER, WE'LL TALK TO YOU
11:37:00AM ALL ABOUT WHAT CHANGES MIGHT HAPPEN TO THE PROJECT
11:37:03AM AFTERWARDS.
11:37:04AM NOTHING HAS CHANGED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
11:37:07AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS HERE AND READY TO VOTE AND WE WOULD
11:37:10AM LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION.
11:37:11AM WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
11:37:13AM THERE CAN BE CHANGES AFTERWARDS IF THEY ARE NON-SUBSTANTIAL.
11:37:20AM BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:37:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU HAD YOUR
11:37:24AM MICROPHONE.
11:37:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS GOING TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY, IS
11:37:29AM THAT EVEN A POSSIBILITY?
11:37:31AM BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A GATE.
11:37:33AM THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:37:37AM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING -- I MEAN, AFTER THE FACT,
11:37:41AM IS THAT A POSSIBILITY?
11:37:44AM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:37:45AM SO IF TODAY'S VOTE IS A DENIAL, THEN THERE IS NO PROCESS FOR
11:37:50AM A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING TO
11:37:52AM AN APPROVED SITE PLAN.
11:37:55AM IF IT IS APPROVED TODAY, THERE IS THE ABILITY TO FILE A
11:37:58AM REQUEST FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL TO DETERMINE WHETHER
11:38:01AM CERTAIN CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN ARE OR ARE NOT SUBSTANTIAL
11:38:06AM CHANGES.
11:38:07AM IF IT'S DETERMINED BY STAFF THAT THE REQUESTED CHANGE IS NOT
11:38:10AM SUBSTANTIAL, THEN THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO GET THAT CHANGE
11:38:13AM ADMINISTRATIVELY.
11:38:14AM IF IT'S DETERMINED TO BE SUBSTANTIAL, IT WOULD REQUIRE THEM
11:38:18AM TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER REZONING.
11:38:21AM BUT AT THIS VERY MOMENT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THEY ARE
11:38:24AM PROPOSING TO CHANGE.
11:38:26AM AND THEY ARE ASKING COUNCIL TO VOTE ON THE REZONING
11:38:29AM APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED AND AS APPROVED AT FIRST READING.
11:38:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:38:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: TYLER, IS THERE ANYTHING -- I THINK I KNOW
11:38:43AM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT US
11:38:46AM TO ADD TO THE MOTION OR YOU JUST WANT TO WAIT TO DO THE
11:38:51AM SUBSTITUTE LATER?
11:38:53AM >> YEAH, TRANSPARENT.
11:38:55AM TRY TO GET THE PROJECT APPROVED.
11:38:56AM ALREADY FOUR APPLICATIONS TO GO THROUGH.
11:38:58AM THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONALLY CHALLENGING PROJECT ON THE MOST
11:39:02AM UNDER DEVELOPED PIECE OF LAND IN CITY OF TAMPA.
11:39:05AM SUBCHANGE, IF THIS IS A SECOND READING BECAUSE WE HAVE A
11:39:08AM VERY SERIOUS TIME CRUNCH.
11:39:09AM INTEGRITY IS ALL I HAVE WITH YOU.
11:39:10AM WHEN I SAY WE HAVE A TIME CRUNCH, WE HAVE A TIME CRUNCH.
11:39:13AM WE HAVE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT.
11:39:15AM WILLING TO ADD ANOTHER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND
11:39:19AM WILLING TO ADD A NOTE TO THE SITE PLAN THAT A SUBCHANGE CAN
11:39:21AM NEVER BE USED TO DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL.
11:39:24AM PEOPLE DO SUBCHANGES ALL THE TIME.
11:39:26AM HAPPENS ALL THE TIMES BECAUSE THE PDs ARE VERY, VERY
11:39:28AM RIGID.
11:39:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. WELLS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADD THAT NOW OR
11:39:32AM NOT?
11:39:36AM >> THOUSAND SQUARE FEET LESS OF MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE WE'RE
11:39:38AM TAKING A PIECE OF THE LOBBY AND MAKE IT ANOTHER 1,000 SQUARE
11:39:41AM FEET OF RETAIL FOR AN AGGREGATE TOTAL OF 5500 SQUARE FEET.
11:39:44AM LOCKING THE DOOR AND THROWING THE KEY AWAY BECAUSE WE'RE
11:39:47AM ADDING A NOTE ABOUT PROHIBITION OF A SUBCHANGE.
11:39:50AM IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT, AND TODAY IS A FIRST READING
11:39:52AM THEN, AND WE'RE FINE DOING A SECOND READING AT SUBSEQUENT
11:39:56AM DATE, BUT WE CAN'T COME BACK IN FIVE WEEKS FOR A NEW FIRST
11:39:59AM READING.
11:39:59AM WE CANNOT DO THAT.
11:40:01AM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:40:03AM AS COUNCIL DID WITH THE PREVIOUS REZONING, IF THERE ARE
11:40:08AM CONDITIONS THAT THE DEVELOPER WISHES TO ADD TO THE SITE
11:40:10AM PLAN, THOSE CAN BE ADDED.
11:40:12AM TODAY CAN BE FIRST READING AND THEN IT WOULD COME BACK TO
11:40:15AM YOU FOR SECOND READING WITH THE CHANGES SHOWN ON THE SITE
11:40:17AM PLAN.
11:40:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: TYLER, WHAT IS YOUR REQUEST?
11:40:21AM >> WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT AND GET THIS DONE.
11:40:23AM IF -- HOPEFULLY -- EXCEPTIONS MAKE FOR BAD RULES.
11:40:27AM IT IS A WEIRD SITUATION WITH THE VOTE SWITCHING AND ABSENCE.
11:40:30AM WE'RE IN THIS PURGATORY.
11:40:32AM WE WANT YOU ALL TO APPROVE THE PROJECT THAT YOU SAW THE LAST
11:40:35AM TIME AT FIRST READING WITH THE ADDITION OF 1,000 SQUARE FEET
11:40:38AM OF RETAIL FOR A TOTAL OF 5500.
11:40:41AM THAT IS THE NEW PIECE NUMBER ONE.
11:40:42AM NEW PIECE NUMBER TWO IS AN ADDITION.
11:40:44AM WE HAVE THE TEXT.
11:40:52AM THE RED NOTE THERE, WHICH CAN PUT INTO THE RECORD
11:41:00AM PROHIBITING THE UTILIZATION OF NON-SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
11:41:03AM DETERMINATION APPLICATION TO CONVERT RETAIL TO MULTIFAMILY.
11:41:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WANT THIS TO BE SECOND READING, RIGHT?
11:41:11AM >> NO, WE ARE FINE WITH THIS BEING -- IF YOU CAN DO THIS BY
11:41:16AM SECOND READING, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT BECAUSE THE
11:41:18AM REVISION SHEET.
11:41:19AM YOU CAN'T.
11:41:19AM THIS IS THE FIRST READING NOW IF YOU GUYS ADOPT THIS.
11:41:22AM THAT'S WHAT WE UNDERSTAND.
11:41:24AM YES, WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT, YES.
11:41:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. THOMAS HAS HANDED ME THREE PAGES.
11:42:02AM IT SAYS REVISED REVISION SHEET DATED JANUARY 23, 2025.
11:42:07AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:42:10AM MYSELF AND THE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS IN
11:42:12AM PREPARATION FOR THIS.
11:42:13AM THEY SENT ME THE REVISIONS AHEAD OF TIME THIS WEEK.
11:42:17AM WE HAVE REVIEWED THEM.
11:42:18AM WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE REVISIONS AND THEY CAN ADD THEM
11:42:20AM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
11:42:21AM WE CAN REVIEW THEM EVEN FURTHER AND MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO
11:42:24AM ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.
11:42:26AM >> CAN YOU REMIND ME OF THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE --
11:42:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 5,500.
11:42:36AM EXCUSE ME, I'M NOT GOING TO TESTIFY.
11:42:38AM MR. THOMAS, THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL
11:42:38AM YOU BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE RECORD.
11:42:38AM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT IN THE RECORD, PLEASE, SO THAT ALL
11:42:40AM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HEAR IT.
11:42:42AM >> TOTAL GROSS SQUARE FOOT -- TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS
11:42:47AM 247,086 SQUARE FEET.
11:42:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT DOES THAT NUMBER REPRESENT?
11:42:53AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: ENTIRE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE
11:42:57AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:43:00AM >> RETAIL WAS 4,000 GOING, ADDING ANOTHER --
11:43:04AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: RETAIL WAS 4,500.
11:43:06AM THEY ARE INCREASING IT BY 1,000 TO MAKE IT 5,500.
11:43:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT USED TO BE A
11:43:17AM WAREHOUSE.
11:43:19AM ACROSS THE STREET IS A BICYCLE SHOP.
11:43:23AM I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR IT.
11:43:24AM I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
11:43:26AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT HISTORY, YBOR CITY AND DOWNTOWN WERE THE
11:43:32AM ONLY TWO SHOPPING AREAS YOU COULD BUY AT ONE TIME.
11:43:35AM ALL OF A SUDDEN BRITTON PLAZA COMES AND NORTH GATE COMES AND
11:43:39AM THEY ARE BOTH YBOR CITY AND WEST TAMPA DEMISE, NOTHING.
11:43:42AM WENT TO HELL.
11:43:43AM ALL OF IT.
11:43:44AM THEN THE OTHER TWO THAT WERE OPEN, BRITTON PLAZA AND NORTH
11:43:49AM GATE, THE MALLS COME IN.
11:43:51AM WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?
11:43:51AM THE SAME THING HAPPENED IN YBOR CITY AND DOWNTOWN.
11:43:56AM NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE ONES THAT ARE MALLS?
11:44:03AM THEY ARE GOING UP TO HERE.
11:44:05AM YOU KNOW WHY?
11:44:06AM BECAUSE YOU CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND THE NEXT DAY THEY
11:44:09AM DELIVER TO YOUR HOUSE.
11:44:10AM IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN.
11:44:13AM AND I LOVE THE STREETCAR.
11:44:14AM I HOPE IT COMES BACK WITH 50 SOME MILES WE HAD BEFORE.
11:44:18AM HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
11:44:21AM I'LL VOTE FOR IT BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVER GOING TO
11:44:24AM HAPPEN.
11:44:25AM THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR IT.
11:44:28AM WE'RE BASING ON IDEAS THAT ARE MAYBE GOOD, BUT FROM MY
11:44:33AM HISTORY AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE RETAIL BUSINESS HAS DONE,
11:44:41AM COST $48, DELIVERED TO ME IN SEVEN DAYS.
11:44:44AM IT'S GOING DOWNHILL WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT'S NOT MY
11:44:49AM DECISION TO MAKE.
11:44:50AM THE PUBLIC MAKES THE DECISION TO MAKE.
11:44:52AM IT'S GETTING TOUGHER AND TOUGHER TO MAKE THINGS SUCCEED IN
11:44:59AM DIFFERENT AREAS.
11:45:00AM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
11:45:02AM WHEN YOU HAVE PARKING REDUCTION, DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE
11:45:05AM WILL LEAVE THEIR CARS HOMES?
11:45:08AM I DON'T.
11:45:11AM BUT WE HAVE PARKING REDUCTIONS THAT WE GIVE AWAY.
11:45:13AM SO THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
11:45:15AM THANK YOU.
11:45:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. THOMAS.
11:45:19AM ANYTHING TO ADD?
11:45:23AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY TO ADD TO THE
11:45:26AM REVISION SHEET AS WELL IS UPDATE ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF TO
11:45:31AM SHOW THE CHANGE WHERE THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS GOING
11:45:35AM TO BE SHOWN.
11:45:35AM NEVER MIND.
11:45:43AM I WAS TOLD IT IS NOT RELEVANT.
11:46:02AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:46:03AM THE LOBBY IS ON FLORIDA AVENUE, IN BETWEEN THE TWO RETAIL
11:46:06AM SPOTS, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
11:46:15AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:46:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:46:23AM DO WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, MR. SHELBY?
11:46:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
11:46:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HERE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES
11:46:35AM TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM?
11:46:36AM IF NOT, I'LL GO TO REBUTTAL.
11:46:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE] -- REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND
11:46:47AM SECOND READING.
11:46:48AM >> TYLER HUDSON, FOR THE RECORD.
11:46:50AM I THINK IT'S ALL BEEN SAID.
11:46:51AM NOTHING FURTHER ON REBUTTAL.
11:46:52AM WE ACCEPT THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED JUST NOW.
11:46:55AM THANK YOU.
11:46:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:46:57AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:46:59AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:47:00AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:47:01AM AYE.
11:47:02AM WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS ITEM?
11:47:04AM THIS IS 51.
11:47:07AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:47:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME WHAT TO ADD.
11:47:16AM MOTION GOES TO FIRST READING?
11:47:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS NOW ON FOR FIRST READING
11:47:21AM CONSIDERATION.
11:47:22AM ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS AND THE REVISION SHEET AS PRESENTED TO
11:47:28AM STAFF.
11:47:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 51, FILE REZ-24-52, ORDINANCE PRESENTED
11:47:34AM FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:47:38AM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 205,
11:47:41AM 207 AND 209 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE, 2301, 2303, 2307 AND 2315
11:47:48AM NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE, 204 AND 206 EAST AMELIA AVENUE AND
11:47:53AM FOLIO NUMBER 191372-0000 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
11:48:00AM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
11:48:03AM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 24, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY AND
11:48:05AM CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:48:09AM STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL
11:48:12AM USES, COMMERCIAL PARKING, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, PLUS
11:48:15AM THE REVISION SHEET.
11:48:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:48:18AM CARLSON.
11:48:18AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:48:20AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:48:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:48:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:48:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:48:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
11:48:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:48:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:48:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:48:33AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK, HENDERSON, AND
11:48:36AM MIRANDA VOTING NO.
11:48:37AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 20th,
11:48:41AM 2025, AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
11:48:45AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:48:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, THE RESOLUTION REGARDING THE BONUS
11:48:52AM PROVISION AGREEMENT WILL TRAVEL WITH THAT TO COME BACK AT
11:48:55AM SECOND READING.
11:48:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL MOVE THAT AT SECOND READING.
11:48:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
11:48:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:49:00AM WE NOW HAVE A VACATING POSITION ON ITEM 52.
11:49:08AM MR. WIGGINTON, ARE YOU TAKING THAT UP?
11:49:11AM >> NO, SIR.
11:49:12AM STAFF SHOULD BE ONLINE AND GIVE THE FIRST PRESENTATION.
11:49:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:49:18AM ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:49:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. COTTON, REALLY FAST, IF I MAY, I HAVE A
11:49:28AM 12:30 APPOINTMENT FOR THE CITY WITH FIRE AND CHIEF BENNETT.
11:49:32AM JUST FYI, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS WILL RUN.
11:49:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:49:38AM I'M KIDDING.
11:49:40AM GO AHEAD, MR. COTTON.
11:49:42AM WERE YOU SWORN IN, SIR?
11:49:44AM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
11:49:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:49:46AM >>ERIC COTTON: CAN YOU SEE THE PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN?
11:49:49AM >> THEY'LL MAKE IT BIGGER FOR US IN JUST A SECOND.
11:49:52AM I KNOW IT'S COMING.
11:49:56AM WAIT, THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.
11:49:57AM BRINGING IT UP.
11:49:58AM VACATING REQUEST.
11:50:00AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:50:02AM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR, ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT
11:50:04AM COORDINATION, HERE WITH PATRICK FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
11:50:08AM DEPARTMENT.
11:50:09AM THIS IS A VACATING FOR VAC 24-16 FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY
11:50:14AM LOCATED AT 2039 EAST MULBERRY DRIVE.
11:50:18AM THAT IS 16,000-SQUARE-FOOT VACATING.
11:50:21AM AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, THIS IS THE PROPOSED VACATING
11:50:26AM REQUEST.
11:50:26AM BASICALLY IT IS A PORTION OF MULBERRY DRIVE REQUESTED TO BE
11:50:29AM VACATED, SOUTH OF BIRD, EAST OF 19th AND ADJACENT TO THE
11:50:35AM RAILROAD WEST OF ROWLETT PARK.
11:50:39AM THE APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH OUR OFFICE ON JUNE 18 AND THE
11:50:45AM GOAL IS TO ACCURATELY REFLECT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:50:50AM IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE WAS A NOTE THAT SAYS THE ROAD WAS
11:50:53AM NOT BUILT ON THE PLATTED RIGHT-OF-WAY, BUILT ACROSS PRIVATE
11:50:56AM PROPERTY.
11:50:56AM I BELIEVE JONATHAN SCOTT FROM MOBILITY IS HERE TO ADDRESS
11:50:59AM ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE.
11:51:02AM THERE IS A CITY-OWNED LOT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MULBERRY
11:51:07AM DRIVE REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
11:51:10AM THIS IS THE AERIAL OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
11:51:13AM PETITIONER'S PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
11:51:16AM THE PART THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE VACATED IS YELLOW.
11:51:23AM THIS IS A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY FROM EAST MULBERRY DRIVE,
11:51:25AM LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
11:51:27AM THIS IS SOUTHEAST FROM MULBERRY, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY
11:51:31AM VACANT.
11:51:31AM STAFF HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST.
11:51:36AM THERE ARE EASEMENT REQUESTS FROM BOTH WATER, TRANSPORTATION,
11:51:40AM AND WASTEWATER.
11:51:44AM WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT -- FROM NATURAL RESOURCES, THEY
11:51:51AM HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 REGARDS TO TREE PRESERVATION
11:51:54AM AND SITE DESIGN.
11:51:55AM I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
11:51:57AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE TO ASSIST.
11:51:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON?
11:52:00AM NO.
11:52:01AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
11:52:02AM YES, SIR, COME ON UP.
11:52:06AM >> HARVEY FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:52:10AM THANK YOU, MR. COTTON, FOR COVERING WHAT I BELIEVE SHOULD
11:52:13AM HOPEFULLY BE THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD THING THE COUNCIL
11:52:16AM HEARS THIS MORNING.
11:52:17AM TO DRIVE THE POINT HOME A LITTLE BIT, THIS IS THE 1927 PLAT
11:52:22AM FOR THE AREA.
11:52:22AM THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY APPLICANT IS
11:52:25AM SEEKING TO VACATE.
11:52:28AM TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR ABOUT THE MISALIGNMENT THAT
11:52:33AM APPLICANT IS REFERENCING, YOU CAN SEE THE GRAY, WHICH IS THE
11:52:37AM CURRENT PAVED RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THEN THE PINK, WHICH IS THE
11:52:41AM PLATTED RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:52:43AM FRANKLY, IT'S JUST NOT WHERE THE ORIGINAL PLAT WAS SET AND
11:52:47AM IT'S IMPACTING THE APPLICANT.
11:52:49AM LASTLY, I BELIEVE EVERYONE HAS SEEN THIS IMAGE FROM STAFF,
11:52:56AM BUT JUST A CLEAR-COLOR IMAGE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO BE
11:53:01AM VACATED OR REQUESTING TO BE VACATED.
11:53:04AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
11:53:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:53:06AM SIR, ARE YOU PART OF THE APPLICATION OR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:53:09AM >> THIS IS THE APPLICANT HIMSELF.
11:53:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
11:53:12AM >> MIKE CHARLES.
11:53:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
11:53:15AM >> IT'S BEEN A LONG --
11:53:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE COME UP TO THE CENTER SO THE
11:53:18AM MICROPHONE PICKS YOU UP.
11:53:19AM >> IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS.
11:53:21AM WE APPRECIATE FINALLY GETTING IT SQUARED AWAY.
11:53:26AM IT IS A REAL PROCESS TO GET IT DONE, AND WE'RE FINALLY
11:53:29AM FINISHED.
11:53:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:53:32AM >> NOW WE CAN BUILD HOUSES AND YOU GUYS CAN TAX THEM AND
11:53:37AM SPEND THE MONEY.
11:53:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE CAPPED AT 3%.
11:53:39AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
11:53:41AM YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
11:53:42AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:54:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:54:09AM I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS, MAYBE.
11:54:14AM WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, AND I SENT E-MAILS AND I TALKED
11:54:18AM TO RON WIGGINTON YESTERDAY.
11:54:20AM THIS IS THE STAFF REPORT.
11:54:21AM THE STAFF REPORT SAYS -- IT SAYS STORMWATER, BUT MR. COTTON
11:54:26AM JUST PRESENTED THAT WASTEWATER, WATER AND SOMETHING ELSE
11:54:30AM WERE ON THERE, BUT NOT STORMWATER.
11:54:33AM BUT THEN WHEN I LOOK IN ACCELA, WHICH YOU GUYS ARE NOT
11:54:36AM ALLOWED TO DO, I SEE THAT THIS PART IS CUT OFF AND
11:54:39AM STORMWATER SAYS YOU CAN'T VACATE THIS PART.
11:54:42AM BUT I DIDN'T SEE A MAP PUT UP THERE THAT WAS RETAINING THIS
11:54:45AM PART OF THIS EASEMENT.
11:54:47AM I HAVE A HUGE PROCEDURAL ISSUE CALLED THE NOTIFICATION THAT
11:54:55AM GOES OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT GO IN ACCELA.
11:54:57AM IT ONLY GOES TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
11:54:59AM SO IF I WERE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THIS PROPERTY AND I GET
11:55:02AM THIS LETTER IN THE MAIL, I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE GOT IT.
11:55:07AM I HAVE NO WAY OF TELLING WHO ELSE RECEIVED THAT LETTER.
11:55:09AM THIS SHOULD BE FILED IN ACCELA ALONG WITH THE ADDRESS
11:55:13AM BECAUSE IN PERPETUITY, EVEN IF IT'S OnBase, YOU CAN'T GO
11:55:18AM AND FIND IT BY THE ADDRESS.
11:55:20AM EVERYTHING THAT PERTAINS TO THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY VACATION,
11:55:24AM WHATEVER IT IS, SHOULD BE IN ACCELA.
11:55:27AM IF IT HAPPENS IN THE CITY, IT SHOULD BE IN ACCELA.
11:55:30AM BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO AND FIND THESE THINGS
11:55:34AM LATER.
11:55:34AM WHY WOULD PUBLIC NOTICE NOT BE IN ACCELA?
11:55:38AM IT WAS NUMBER 13 OF THE 14 DOCUMENTS THAT WERE IN THERE.
11:55:41AM I DIDN'T SEE ANY DOCUMENTS.
11:55:42AM I JUST WENT BACK THROUGH, THAT SAW THIS PORTION TAKEN AWAY
11:55:46AM FROM THAT.
11:55:46AM MR. COTTON JUST SHOWED YOU A MAP THAT LOOKED THE SAME EXACT
11:55:51AM SHAPE AS THIS.
11:55:52AM IT DIDN'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT.
11:55:53AM WHEN I TALKED TO PATRICK YESTERDAY, I ASKED HIM ABOUT THIS,
11:55:56AM AND HE SAYS, AND HE WAS VERY FRUSTRATED WITH ME BECAUSE I
11:56:01AM KNEW AND HE KNEW THAT HE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING TO CHANGE THIS
11:56:04AM CRAPPY PROCESS OF IT NOT GOING INTO ACCELA.
11:56:08AM BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OUT THERE FOR PERPETUITY,
11:56:13AM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, BUT EVERY TIME I SEARCH
11:56:16AM OnBase AND BEFORE THAT WHATEVER IT WAS BEFORE THAT, IT
11:56:19AM SUCKS TO SEARCH THOSE.
11:56:21AM IT'S AWFUL.
11:56:22AM IT IS HORRIFIC.
11:56:24AM I HAVE A 300-PAGE DOCUMENT AT HOME WHERE I HAVE MY OWN
11:56:28AM ROLLING SEARCH SO THAT I CAN FIND THINGS THAT HAPPENED AT
11:56:31AM CITY COUNCIL TWO YEARS AGO OR THREE YEARS AGO BECAUSE IT'S
11:56:34AM SO BAD TO TRY AND FIND STUFF.
11:56:37AM I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO THINKS THAT.
11:56:39AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THESE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT ALL UPLOADED
11:56:42AM IN ACCELA TO INCLUDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOTIFICATION BECAUSE
11:56:45AM YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO WERE NOTIFIED AND HAD NO IDEA THAT
11:56:48AM THEY WEREN'T THE ONLY ONES WHO GOT THE LETTER.
11:56:50AM YOU HAD NEIGHBORS WHO WERE NOTIFIED WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHO
11:56:54AM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT WERE NOTIFIED.
11:56:58AM I HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE WHAT IS THE POINT IN
11:57:00AM HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IF THE NEIGHBOR DOES NOT
11:57:03AM HAVE ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION? I'M JUST SAYING.
11:57:10AM SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT THIS SITE PLAN IS GOING
11:57:13AM TO LOOK LIKE OF WHAT THEY ARE GIVING AWAY.
11:57:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:57:17AM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
11:57:20AM SPEAK?
11:57:20AM DO YOU HAVE REBUTTAL, SIR?
11:57:23AM BEFORE YOU REBUT, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:57:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ABOUT THIS
11:57:31AM VACATING REVIEW COMMENT SHEET FROM ALEX AWAD THAT SAYS
11:57:36AM VACATING IS NOT ALLOWED ON PART OF THIS.
11:57:38AM WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
11:57:40AM >> RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:57:42AM THAT WAS THEIR ORIGINAL REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION.
11:57:45AM THEY HAVE SINCE REVIEWED IT AGAIN AND HAS MADE THEIR
11:57:50AM COMMENTS -- REVISED THEIR COMMENTS TO NO OBJECTION AS IS
11:57:55AM SHOWN IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS UPLOADED.
11:57:58AM YOU'LL SEE HERE, REVISED CHANGE TO NO OBJECTION AND NO
11:58:03AM EASEMENTS REQUESTED.
11:58:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT MOBILITY DOES.
11:58:08AM >>RON WIGGINTON: MS. POYNOR PROVIDED WAS PRIOR TO THIS
11:58:13AM REVISION TO THEIR REPORT.
11:58:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT CHANGED?
11:58:18AM >>RON WIGGINTON: I BELIEVE THEY REVIEWED IT AND NO
11:58:20AM FACILITIES FOR STORMWATER THAT WERE IN THIS AREA.
11:58:22AM AND THERE'S NO RESERVATION OF EASEMENT, SO THEY WOULD NOT
11:58:25AM HAVE HAD ANY FACILITIES HERE.
11:58:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:58:27AM THANK YOU.
11:58:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. FEELEY?
11:58:30AM NO.
11:58:30AM REBUTTAL FROM THE GENTLEMAN.
11:58:34AM >> HARVEY HALPRIN FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:58:38AM I WANT TO BRIEFLY MENTION THAT I APPRECIATE THE CITIZEN'S
11:58:41AM INTEREST IN TRANSPARENCY.
11:58:42AM HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE THAT
11:58:46AM AFFECTS THE APPLICATION.
11:58:47AM THANK YOU ALL.
11:58:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:58:50AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:58:52AM SECOND FROM VIERA.
11:58:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:58:54AM AYE.
11:58:55AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING 52?
11:58:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WOULD NOT MIND READING IT, CHAIR.
11:59:00AM FILE VAC-24-16, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
11:59:05AM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
11:59:08AM VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT PORTION
11:59:11AM OF MULBERRY DRIVE RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF THE
11:59:15AM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, SOUTH OF BIRD STREET, EAST OF 19th
11:59:19AM STREET AND WEST OF ROWLETT PARK DRIVE, WITHIN THE PLATS OF
11:59:23AM KATHRYN PARK AND FERN CLIFF SUBDIVISIONS IN THE CITY OF
11:59:26AM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
11:59:30AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
11:59:33AM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
11:59:36AM HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
11:59:39AM VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
11:59:43AM REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
11:59:45AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:59:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:59:48AM HENDERSON.
11:59:49AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:59:50AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:59:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:59:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:59:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:59:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:59:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:59:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:59:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:00:02PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
12:00:04PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 20,
12:00:07PM 2025, AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
12:00:11PM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
12:00:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:00:16PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:00:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:00:17PM ARE WE GOING FOR LUNCH NOW?
12:00:19PM I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO BE BACK.
12:00:22PM SOME FAMILY THINGS.
12:00:23PM MAY I MAKE TWO QUICK MOTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:00:27PM I MENTIONED THEM BEFORE.
12:00:28PM I MOTION FOR INFORMATION ON HOW AND WHERE THE DISABILITY
12:00:33PM INTERNSHIP POSITIONS ARE BEING ADVERTISED FOR THE NUMBER OF
12:00:36PM APPLICANTS SUBMITTED AND THE EFFORT THAT HAS BEEN MADE
12:00:39PM INTERDEPARTMENTALLY TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR
12:00:42PM PLACEMENTS.
12:00:42PM THAT INCLUDES INQUIRIES WITH EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT ON
12:00:46PM THEIR AVAILABILITY AND WILLINGNESS TO HAVE AN INTERN.
12:00:49PM I WOULD ASK FOR THIS REPORT TO BE BROUGHT BACK ON MARCH 6 OF
12:00:52PM THIS YEAR.
12:00:54PM DO WE HAVE SPACE -- IT WAS MEANT TO BE WRITTEN.
12:01:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
12:01:04PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:01:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:01:06PM AYE.
12:01:07PM ANY OPPOSED.
12:01:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE SECOND ONE, THIS IS WRITTEN AS WELL ON THE
12:01:11PM SAME DATE.
12:01:12PM MOTION FOR ANY REMAINING MONEY -- SO LONG STORY SHORT, WE
12:01:16PM HAD APPROPRIATED I THINK IT WAS HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN
12:01:19PM THE BUDGET FOR THIS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
12:01:22PM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE SPENDING ALL OF IT.
12:01:24PM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE IF IT DOESN'T GET SPENT, IT
12:01:28PM GOES INTO THE GIANT BLACK HOLE.
12:01:30PM I MOTION FOR THE REMAINING MONEY OF THE DISABILITY
12:01:32PM INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FUNDING FOR THIS YEAR TO BE GIVEN TO THE
12:01:35PM MacDONALD TRAINING CENTER, WHICH WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH
12:01:38PM AND CUP, WHO WE ARE ALL I BELIEVE FAMILIAR WITH AND STAFF TO
12:01:42PM PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT, UPDATE TO THIS REQUEST ON THE
12:01:46PM FEASIBILITY OF IT AND THEIR POSITION ON THAT.
12:01:48PM I'M GOING TO DO IT AT THE JULY 17 MEETING BECAUSE BY THEN
12:01:52PM WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IT IS.
12:01:55PM I DO WANT TO STATE, MR. SHELBY, MY BROTHER, JUAN VIERA, IS A
12:02:01PM CLIENT OF McDONALD TRAINING CENTER.
12:02:03PM THAT DOESN'T POSE -- I'VE DISCLOSED THAT BEFORE, DOESN'T DO
12:02:07PM A CONFLICT BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT AGAIN.
12:02:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE MOTION?
12:02:14PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
12:02:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, JUST A WRITTEN REPORT ON THE AMOUNT OF
12:02:18PM MONEY THAT'S BEEN SPENT AND THEN THE FEASIBILITY OF
12:02:21PM PROCEEDING WITH THAT.
12:02:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:02:22PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:02:25PM HURTAK, CARLSON, CLENDENIN.
12:02:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M FINE WITH GETTING JUST A REPORT, BUT WE
12:02:30PM SHOULD REALLY BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT.
12:02:36PM THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMING BACK
12:02:43PM BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT OVERAGES AND I
12:02:46PM CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN IT IS.
12:02:49PM I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD IT TO THAT.
12:02:52PM I WISH I COULD REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN.
12:02:55PM I THINK IT IS THE 27th OF FEBRUARY DURING A WORKSHOP.
12:02:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE THE MOTION AND MODIFY IT FOR
12:03:03PM 27th.
12:03:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS
12:03:05PM PROVIDED BY THE BUDGET OFFICE AND COME UP WITH QUESTIONS
12:03:09PM ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WAS LEFT OVER IN FY '24.
12:03:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS?
12:03:13PM I'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR JULY JUST SO THAT WE HAVE IT
12:03:18PM SPECIFIC TO THAT BUT I WILL INQUIRE THAT DATE.
12:03:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SEND THAT QUESTION TO MS. KOPESKY SO SHE HAS
12:03:24PM IT AND IS WORKING ON IT.
12:03:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
12:03:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND CLENDENIN.
12:03:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: CONSIDERING WHAT WE SAW THIS MORNING ABOUT
12:03:30PM THE RESULTS OF THE CITY'S PROGRAM, WHY COULDN'T WE FORCE THE
12:03:36PM CITY SOMEHOW TO SET UP A FUND SO WE COULD MOVE THIS TO NEXT
12:03:39PM YEAR SO WE CAN HELP MORE PEOPLE IN THE CITY?
12:03:41PM NOT THAT THE NONPROFITS AREN'T GREAT PLACES BUT YOU
12:03:44PM DEMONSTRATED THIS MORNING THAT EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROGRAM,
12:03:47PM IT SEEMS TO ME, IF THERE WAS MONEY LEFT OVER, WE WOULD WANT
12:03:51PM TO HELP MORE PEOPLE IN THE CITY.
12:03:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.
12:03:54PM REASONABLE POINT TO MAKE ON THE OTHER SIDE, SO TO SPEAK.
12:03:57PM AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING FUNDED AGAIN FOR NEXT YEAR.
12:04:00PM I'LL MAKE SURE OF THAT, RIGHT, BUT IF WE DON'T FORCE THE
12:04:04PM HAND ON PROCEEDING WITH THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY
12:04:06PM THAT WE ALREADY APPROPRIATED GOES TO THE SAME RESULTS, THEN
12:04:10PM I THINK WE WILL BE SHORTCHANGING OURSELVES.
12:04:13PM THAT IS MY MOTION, BUT IT WILL BE FUNDED AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
12:04:17PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE RIGHT.
12:04:19PM BECAUSE THESE PROGRAMS, PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS SERVING
12:04:25PM COFFEE.
12:04:26PM MacDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER GOES TO THE SAME THING SO IT
12:04:30PM WOULD GO TO THE SAME PURPOSE.
12:04:31PM AGAIN, WE WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT MONEY IS LEFT OVER.
12:04:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN.
12:04:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT NEXT YEAR IS GOING
12:04:37PM TO BRING.
12:04:38PM OBVIOUSLY WE'LL SEE DRAMATIC IMPACTS ON REVENUE BECAUSE OF
12:04:40PM THE HURRICANES.
12:04:42PM THAT BUDGET IS GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING NEXT YEAR.
12:04:44PM SO I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GUARANTEE ANYBODY BANK FROM THE
12:04:48PM CITY OF TAMPA NEXT YEAR BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY,
12:04:50PM VERY, VERY, VERY TOUGH YEAR.
12:04:52PM I'M JUST ANTICIPATING THAT.
12:04:53PM THAT BEING SAID, I APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK BRINGING
12:04:56PM ABOUT THIS IS A LARGER PICTURE.
12:04:59PM I'M FULLY FINE WITH WHAT YOU ASKED FOR AS FAR AS A REPORT
12:05:03PM AND WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT.
12:05:05PM AS FAR AS REALLOCATION OF RESOURCES AND THINGS WE'VE DONE, I
12:05:08PM THINK THAT HAS TO BE A MUCH LARGER DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE
12:05:11PM HAVE TO DO DUE DILIGENCE.
12:05:14PM I'VE HAD FAMILIAR FAMILY CONNECTIONS TO McDONALD'S
12:05:17PM TRAINING CENTER AS WELL AND APPRECIATE THE MISSION THEY DO
12:05:20PM BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE A COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION.
12:05:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON MY MOTION.
12:05:25PM NUMBER ONE, HAVE THE REPORT COME BACK ON JULY 17 ON WHAT HAS
12:05:30PM BEEN SPENT.
12:05:32PM AND THEN FOR THE SURPLUS OVER THAT AMOUNT TO GO, THE
12:05:37PM FEASIBILITY OF IT GOING TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND WE CAN
12:05:39PM HAVE A DISCUSSION IN THE MEANWHILE.
12:05:41PM I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'LL DO, BECAUSE I IDENTIFIED THESE TWO
12:05:44PM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
12:05:46PM MY MOTION WILL BE TO HAVE THE SURPLUS OF IT GO TO
12:05:49PM ORGANIZATIONS LIKE McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER, LIKE CUP
12:05:53PM THAT PROMOTE JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND TRAINING FOR PEOPLE WITH
12:05:57PM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS.
12:06:00PM I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISPUTED IN
12:06:03PM ANY WAY.
12:06:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
12:06:04PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:06:05PM AYE.
12:06:06PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:06:06PM WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:35 P.M.
12:06:12PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:06:12PM [LUNCH RECESS]
12:06:15PM I ADDED FIVE MINUTES.
01:36:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY
01:36:30PM COUNCIL MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
01:36:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:36:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:36:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:36:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:36:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:36:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:36:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:36:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: I SAID I WASN'T GOING TO BE BACK, BUT I AM.
01:36:46PM I MET WITH SOME FOLKS ON THIS -- YOU ALL REMEMBER WE PASSED
01:36:50PM A MOTION IN CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTING LOCAL 754 ON THIS PUBLIC
01:36:54PM RECORDS REQUEST.
01:36:55PM WITHOUT GETTING INTO IT, WE ARE STILL WORK ON IT.
01:36:58PM BUT I DO BELIEVE IN HAVING DEADLINES ON THINGS.
01:37:00PM SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
01:37:06PM I DO MOTION -- NUMBER ONE, FEBRUARY 6.
01:37:09PM AND ON THAT DAY, BECAUSE I DO HAVE ONE STAFF REPORT, I MOTION
01:37:15PM -- LET ME FIRST -- I INTEND TO MOTION TO MOVE MY MOTION FOR
01:37:20PM LOCAL CEMETERIES CLEANING FROM FEBRUARY 6 TO MARCH 27.
01:37:24PM I WILL DO THAT SECONDLY AFTER THIS ONE PASSES IF IT DOES.
01:37:28PM SO I WILL BE MAKING ROOM ON AGENDA FOR THAT IN KEEPING WITH
01:37:31PM OUR RULES.
01:37:32PM THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
01:37:33PM NUMBER TWO IS, I MOTION FOR THE APPROPRIATE CITY OF TAMPA
01:37:37PM DEPARTMENTS TO COME AND BRIEF CITY COUNCIL ON THE RESOLUTION
01:37:42PM OF THE CITY PUBLIC RECORD OF LOCAL 574 FIRE FIGHTERS.
01:37:46PM YEAR END, REPRESENTIVES OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND
01:37:49PM TAMPA FEE RESCUE AND LOCAL 754 WILL BE PRESENT FOR IT.
01:37:54PM I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE BEFORE.
01:37:57PM BUT IF WE DON'T, I WANT THIS AS A TIMELINE, A DEADLINE.
01:38:01PM AND SECOND, I WILL BE MOTIONING TO TAKE THAT OFF SO WE HAVE
01:38:04PM TIME ON THE AGENDA.
01:38:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:38:06PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:38:08PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:38:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:38:12PM AND THEN --
01:38:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND WAS CARLSON.
01:38:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDLY, I MOVE MY MOTION FOR REPORT ON
01:38:21PM CLEANING OF LOCAL CEMETERIES FROM THIS FEBRUARY DATE TO
01:38:24PM MARCH 27 CONSISTENT WITH THE RULES.
01:38:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:38:28PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:38:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:38:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:38:32PM THAT DAY WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FIRE ITEMS INCLUDING FOR
01:38:37PM STATION 24.
01:38:38PM AND HOPEFULLY GETTING THAT BY OCTOBER.
01:38:41PM AND A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES AND WHAT NOT.
01:38:44PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:38:45PM I WILL BE TRUE TO MY WORD AND LEAVE.
01:38:47PM THANK YOU.
01:38:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:38:50PM WE HAVE OUR 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS WE NEED TO OPEN UP.
01:38:53PM CAN I GET MOTION TO OPEN OUR 1:30?
01:38:58PM MOTION BY CLENDENIN.
01:38:59PM SECONDED BY CARLSON.
01:39:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU CAN, A MOTION TO
01:39:04PM RECEIVE AND FILE THE EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, IF ANY, OF ANY
01:39:08PM THAT HAVE BEEN FILED.
01:39:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION.
01:39:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE HAVE ANY?
01:39:13PM SHELBY NO EX-PARTE OR VERBAL COMMUNICATIONS.
01:39:16PM NONE?
01:39:17PM OKAY.
01:39:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE -- YOU JUST
01:39:22PM MAKE -- ALL RIGHT.
01:39:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
01:39:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
01:39:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN AND
01:39:29PM SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 53, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT
01:39:34PM HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
01:39:36PM [SWEARING IN]
01:39:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOBODY ELSE IS SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM?
01:39:52PM OKAY, MR. COTTON, PRESENT 53.
01:39:55PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
01:39:56PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IF I MAY, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
01:40:05PM FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:40:06PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
01:40:06PM ITEM NUMBER 53 IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR THE APPLICATION SU
01:40:11PM 124-76 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6801 NORTH ORLEANS
01:40:17PM AVENUE.
01:40:17PM THIS IS BROUGHT ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER, DANIELLE MAZZA.
01:40:21PM SHE FILED AN APPLICATION WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA REQUESTING
01:40:24PM FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE AT HER PROPERTY.
01:40:27PM STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST ON MAY 16 OF 2024.
01:40:31PM ON THE BASIS THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CODE
01:40:35PM CRITERIA OUTLINED IN 27-132 WHICH IS THE SPECIFIC
01:40:40PM REQUIREMENTS FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
01:40:43PM STAFF WILL EXPLAIN TO YOU THE REASON -- THE BASIS OF THE
01:40:46PM DENIAL.
01:40:46PM BUT IN SUM MISSION, THEY DENIED THE APPLICATION BECAUSE IT
01:40:50PM DID NOT -- THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE DID NOT MEET THE
01:40:59PM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
01:41:00PM AND I PROVIDED YOU COPIES OF 27-61 IN YOUR PACKET, AND TAMPA
01:41:05PM CITY STAFF PROVIDED NEW THEIR STAFF REPORT COPIES OF 27-132,
01:41:10PM TH EREGULATIONS FOR EARNING THE SPECIFIC USES FOR SPECIFICALLY
01:41:13PM THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
01:41:14PM 27-129 WHICH ARE THE GENERAL STANDARDS.
01:41:18PM AND 27-130, WHICH ARE THE CONDITIONS AND SAFEGUARD.
01:41:22PM I ALSO PROVIDED COPIES OF THE SAMPLE MOTION AND THE RULES OF
01:41:25PM PROCEDURE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO -- TO CONDUCT THIS REVIEW
01:41:30PM HEARING.
01:41:30PM AS OUTLINED IN CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTIONS J-3.
01:41:36PM CITY COUNCIL SHOULD CONDUCT A DE NOVO.
01:41:38PM GOING TO BE A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW, WHICH MEANS YOU ARE
01:41:43PM NOT LIMITED TO THE INFORMATION OR DOCUMENTATION OR THE
01:41:45PM EVIDENCE ORIGINALLY PROVIDED BY STAFF.
01:41:47PM YOU CAN SEE NEW INFORMATION.
01:41:50PM STAFF IS -- IS ONLINE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE
01:41:55PM APPLICATION.
01:41:55PM AND AFTER CITY COUNCIL HEARS ALL THE EVIDENCE CITY COUNCIL
01:42:04PM CAN TAKE ONE OF TWO ACTIONS, CONFIRM THE ZONING
01:42:08PM ADMINISTRATOR AND DENY THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION FOR
01:42:10PM EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
01:42:12PM OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
01:42:15PM ADMINISTRATOR AND, THEREFORE, APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR
01:42:18PM THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
01:42:19PM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. COTTON.
01:42:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:42:25PM MR. COTTON, STATE YOUR NAME.
01:42:26PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON.
01:42:27PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
01:42:28PM LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:42:30PM I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN BRIEFLY.
01:42:32PM AND --
01:42:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE IT BIGGER NOW.
01:42:46PM IT IS COMING.
01:42:47PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:42:50PM MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE INDICATED SU-14-76 FOR NORTH
01:42:58PM ORLEANS AVENUE.
01:42:59PM AGAIN, THE ZONING IS RS-50.
01:43:06PM COUNCILMAN ALREADY SAID THAT.
01:43:08PM BUT ZONING IS RS-50.
01:43:12PM IN THAT DISTRICT, CORNER OF HIAWATHA AND NEW ORLEANS -- OR
01:43:16PM NORTH ORLEANS, EXCUSE ME.
01:43:18PM SO THIS -- THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED FOR THE
01:43:23PM APPLICATION.
01:43:23PM YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS LOCATED ONLY ABOUT A
01:43:27PM LITTLE OVER TEN FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.
01:43:30PM AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, NOT INCLUDED IN THE USE OF THE
01:43:33PM EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE, THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE ITSELF HAS
01:43:38PM TO BE BACK 60 FEET FROM THE BACK PROPERTY LINE.
01:43:41PM EXISTING HOUSE IS ACCEPT WAITED BETWEEN THE TWO TREES AND
01:43:44PM PUSHED TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY WHICH LIMITS THE ABILITY
01:43:46PM TO PLACE THIS IN THE 60-FOOT -- MEETING THE 60-FOOT SETBACK.
01:43:51PM SO -- YOU CAN SEE IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
01:43:54PM YOU SEE THE WALLS ARE STARTING TO BE PUT UP.
01:43:58PM SO IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS THE BASIS OF THE DENIAL.
01:44:04PM THE STRUCTURE DOES NOT MEET THE 60-FOOT SETBACK.
01:44:10PM ONLY AT 10.1 FEET.
01:44:12PM YOU EXPECT GET A VARIANCE OR ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE
01:44:15PM PROCESS TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS BECAUSE OF THIS CODE SECTION.
01:44:19PM STAFF HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO DENY THE REQUEST.
01:44:22PM IF COUNCIL WERE TO OVERTURN THE DENIAL BY STAFF, ESSENTIALLY
01:44:28PM WILL BE GRANTING -- I WILL USE THE TERM "VARIANCE" FROM THE
01:44:32PM 60 FEET TO THE 10 FEET.
01:44:35PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
01:44:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:44:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:44:41PM CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN?
01:44:44PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, MA'AM.
01:44:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE ADDRESS OF THIS
01:44:47PM HOUSE IS 6801 NORTH ORLEANS.
01:44:49PM SO THAT MEANS THE HOUSE WOULD HAVE TO FRONT NORTH ORLEANS.
01:44:55PM DOES IT NOT FRONT NORTH ORLEANS?
01:44:58PM >>ERIC COTTON: NO, MA'AM.
01:44:59PM THE ADDRESS -- THE ZONING FRONT BY CHAPTER 27 IS NARROWEST
01:45:06PM PORTION OF THE LOT.
01:45:07PM CONSIDERED THE FRONT YARD.
01:45:08PM REGARDLESS WHERE THE FRONT DOOR IS ORIENTED OR HOW IT IS
01:45:12PM ADDRESSED.
01:45:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY DOESN'T IT HAVE A HIAWATHA ADDRESS?
01:45:17PM >>ERIC COTTON: ADDRESS ASSIGNED 6801.
01:45:20PM BECAUSE THAT IS PROBABLY HOW THE HOUSE IS ORIENTED FOR ITS
01:45:24PM FRONT DOOR BUT DOES NOT AFFECT THE FRONT YARD BASED ON THE
01:45:27PM ZONING CODE.
01:45:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SEE.
01:45:29PM TECHNICALLY FOR THE ORIENTATION OF THIS HOUSE, IT IS A SIDE
01:45:32PM YARD BECAUSE OF HOW IT WAS -- OKAY, I GET IT.
01:45:35PM THANK YOU.
01:45:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:45:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ERIC, IS THERE ANY -- IS THERE A WAY FOR
01:45:42PM THE CITY TO ADMINISTRATIVELY DECLARE ONE FRONTAGE -- A FRONT
01:45:50PM YARD VERSUS ANOTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE OF FRONT YARD?
01:45:53PM >>ERIC COTTON: THERE IS.
01:45:54PM THE APPLICANT GOES THROUGH A DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR A YARD
01:45:57PM DETERMINATION.
01:45:57PM BUT EVEN IF SHE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THE FRONT -- IF
01:46:01PM IT WAS HIAWATHA OR ORLEANS IS 38 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 60
01:46:10PM FEET.
01:46:11PM REGARDLESS WHICH WAY THE AREA IS ORIENTED THE APPLICANT WILL
01:46:14PM BE IN THE SAME SITUATION WITH THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
01:46:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
01:46:22PM IF ORLEANS WAS THE FRONT YARD, WE WOULD ONLY BE TALKING OF A
01:46:25PM SEED YARD SETBACK.
01:46:27PM >>ERIC COTTON: NO, SIR, SETBACK OF 38 FEET ALONG THE
01:46:30PM PROPERTY LINE.
01:46:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE THE LOT IS JUST NOT THAT DEEP.
01:46:33PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
01:46:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU PUT IT ON THE
01:46:37PM PROMPT, IT WILL NOT MEET US.
01:46:39PM THANK YOU.
01:46:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
01:46:43PM DOES THAT CONCLUDE EVERYTHING, SIR?
01:46:46PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
01:46:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, APPLICANT.
01:46:48PM COME ON UP AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
01:46:54PM >> MY NAME IS DANIELLE MAZZA.
01:46:56PM AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
01:46:58PM OKAY.
01:46:59PM SO I AM JUST HERE FOR A VARIANCE REQUEST APPROVAL FOR THE
01:47:04PM SIDE CORNER LOT.
01:47:05PM I BASICALLY HIRED A CONTRACTOR WHO COME TO FIND OUT WAS NOT
01:47:09PM LICENSED.
01:47:10PM AND I RELIED ON FAULTY ADVICE, ONE BEING THE LOCATION OF THE
01:47:14PM STRUCTURE.
01:47:14PM I APPROVED THE CURRENT LOCATION BECAUSE MIRROR THE BUILDING
01:47:19PM CONSTRUCTION DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET WHICH I HAVE -- I
01:47:22PM DON'T KNOW -- OKAY.
01:47:23PM WHICH I HAVE RIGHT HERE.
01:47:24PM SO THERE IS MY PROPERTY AND THE STRUCTURE IS THERE.
01:47:29PM AND THEN THIS IS MY NEIGHBOR.
01:47:30PM SO THAT IS WHY I APPROVED THE LOCATION THAT -- THAT THEY
01:47:35PM GAVE.
01:47:35PM AND THEN AS WELL AS I HAVE A LIVE OAK THAT IS SITTING
01:47:43PM RECEIPT HERE, WHICH YOU WILL ALSO SEE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT
01:47:46PM I AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY PRIMARY HOUSE WITH.
01:47:48PM SO I WANTED TO SHAKE SURE THE STRUCTURE WAS FAR ENOUGH AWAY
01:47:52PM FROM THAT.
01:47:53PM I HAVE THIS SURVEY THAT I CAN SHOW YOU.
01:47:55PM WRITE THERE IS THE LIVE OAK AND THERE IS THE BUILDING.
01:48:04PM SO THAT HARDSHIP OF THIS PROJECT IS MY ADDRESS APPLIES TO
01:48:08PM TWO FRONT SETBACKS.
01:48:09PM THE ADDRESS IS ORLEANS AVENUE AND THE CITY CONSIDERS
01:48:13PM HIAWATHA THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
01:48:15PM REQUESTING THE FRONT SIDE YARD WHICH IS ON HIAWATHA, SET
01:48:19PM TOBACCO TO BE REDUCED TO 10 FEET, WHICH IS 35 FEET FROM --
01:48:24PM FROM THE ASPHALT NOW OR FROM THE PAVEMENT AND THE SIDE
01:48:29PM CORNER YARD TO REDUCE TO FOUR FEET ALL OF THE SPECIFIC
01:48:38PM MEASURES WILL BE IN MET WITH THE STRUCTURE AND NOT INTERFERE
01:48:41PM WITH THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
01:48:43PM I BROUGHT CITY OF TAMPA ADU HE WILL I BELIEVE MAP TO SHOW IT
01:48:50PM IS WITHIN THE LIMITS IF THAT HELPS AT ALL.
01:48:51PM BUT I BELIEVE IF THE REQUEST IS APPROVED IT WILL AT LEAST
01:48:54PM HELP THE -- INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUES IN THE
01:48:57PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:48:57PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
01:49:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
01:49:06PM ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
01:49:09PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:49:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ERIC, ARE YOU STILL THERE?
01:49:14PM THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, THAT PERMITTED AND APPROVED
01:49:18PM STRUCTURE OR IS THAT -- HOW DID WE GET THERE?
01:49:23PM >>ERIC COTTON: ACROSS --
01:49:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE APPLICANT SHOWED US INFORMATION THAT
01:49:28PM WOULD APPEAR TO BE CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD MIMIC WHAT THEY
01:49:33PM ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO ON THIS PROPERTY SO IT WILL BE, YOU
01:49:37PM KNOW, IN HARMONY WITH -- WITH A DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE
01:49:40PM STREET.
01:49:40PM BUT IS THAT DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET, WAS IT PROPERLY
01:49:44PM PERMITTED AND APPROVED?
01:49:46PM >>ERIC COTTON: I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
01:49:48PM I DON'T KNOW.
01:49:50PM I HAVE NOT DONE THE RESEARCH ON THAT.
01:49:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:49:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO ASK A SIMILAR QUESTION
01:49:56PM ABOUT -- WITHIN THE PERIMETER OF THIS PROPERTY, ANY OTHER
01:49:59PM PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THE SAME -- THAT THEY CAN'T BUILD AND
01:50:04PM THEY HAVE SOMETHING IN THE BACK ALREADY OR SOMETHING?
01:50:07PM I DON'T KNOW.
01:50:07PM DID Y'ALL DO ANY CHECKING ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT
01:50:12PM THEY DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT THESE FOLKS ARE ASKING FOR?
01:50:17PM >>ERIC COTTON: STAFF DID NOT LOOK INTO THAT.
01:50:19PM STAFF LOOKS STRICTLY AT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND THE
01:50:22PM CRITERIA FOR THE REQUEST THAT WAS APPLIED FOR.
01:50:25PM AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS
01:50:30PM BASED ON WHAT --
01:50:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
01:50:33PM >>ERIC COTTON: BASED ON WHAT IS DEVELOPED AROUND IT.
01:50:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION -- FOR LEGAL.
01:50:40PM WILL THIS BE A SITUATION THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BETTER BE
01:50:45PM SERVED -- INSTEAD OF APPLYING -- THIS SU.
01:50:50PM COMING THROUGH A TRADITIONAL VARIANCE REQUEST SO THAT STAFF
01:50:54PM WOULD HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH ABOUT ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND
01:50:57PM THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON NEIGHBORHOODS.
01:51:01PM HOW WILL WE GET THAT INFORMATION.
01:51:03PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. COTTON CAN ANSWER THAT
01:51:07PM QUESTION.
01:51:07PM I CAN'T ADVISE WHAT PROCESS SHE SHOULD GO THROUGH.
01:51:10PM I CAN'T ADVISE THAT.
01:51:11PM BUT MR. COTTON CAN EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A VARIANCE
01:51:17PM WE IS GOVERNOR EARNED BY 27-80 AND HARDSHIP CRITERIA AND WHY
01:51:22PM SHE ELECTED TO GO THROUGH A SU-1 PROCESS.
01:51:25PM THIS IS HERE FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE, THAT USE.
01:51:29PM THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE.
01:51:30PM THE APPLICATION IS FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT HAS
01:51:34PM SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT SHE DIDN'T MEET.
01:51:37PM SO THAT -- BECAUSE OF THESE THAT SHE IS ASKING FOR, MAYBE
01:51:42PM SHE CAN ELABORATE ON IT.
01:51:43PM BUT BECAUSE OF THE USE SHE IS ASKING FOR, THAT IS WHY WE ARE
01:51:46PM HERE.
01:51:47PM VARIANCE IS JUST FOR REQUIREMENTS.
01:51:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ECHOED AS WELL, I'M
01:51:53PM JUST CURIOUS OF HOW THIS WORKS WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES,
01:51:56PM ADJACENT PROPERTIES, THE IMPACTS THAT HAS.
01:51:59PM HOW DO WE AS A COUNCIL -- IN WHAT FORMAT THAT COMES TO US IF
01:52:03PM WE CAN SEE A BIGGER HE CAN YOU ARE.
01:52:06PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I UNDERSTAND, COUNCILMAN, YOUR
01:52:08PM QUESTION, BUT NOT IN THIS AVENUE BEFORE YOU.
01:52:10PM WILL OTHER SURROUNDING PROPERTIES COME INTO PLAY BECAUSE
01:52:13PM THIS IS LOOKING AT HER APPLICATION WITHIN ITSELF ON WHETHER
01:52:20PM OR NOT IT DOES OR DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA.
01:52:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:52:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.
01:52:27PM THIS IS ALREADY IN AN AREA THAT ALLOWS ADUs.
01:52:30PM EVERY SINGLE HOUSE AROUND IT HAS A ADU.
01:52:33PM SHE SHOWED THE MAP.
01:52:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE GET THAT.
01:52:36PM BUT TALKING OF THE SETBACKS.
01:52:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE SETBACKS FOR A WEIRD PIECE OF PROPERTY I
01:52:40PM EARNED STAND WHY THEY NEEDED TO BE HERE, BUT I WANTED TO
01:52:43PM THROW THAT OUT THERE.
01:52:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MERCADO, ANYTHING ELSE?
01:52:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SORRY.
01:52:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY REBUTTAL AT THIS TIME.
01:52:51PM YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
01:52:52PM EXAMINE I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
01:52:53PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, SECONDED FROM
01:52:57PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:52:57PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:52:58PM WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
01:53:09PM THE MOTION WOULD BE TO DENY OR OVERTURN -- UPHOLD OR
01:53:15PM OVERTURN.
01:53:15PM YES, MA'AM.
01:53:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
01:53:21PM DENIAL OF SU-24-76 PROPERTY 6801 NORTH ORLEANS BECAUSE THE
01:53:30PM PETITIONER PROVIDED SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE TO
01:53:33PM WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS AND ALLOW FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY TO
01:53:36PM BE A NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE OR A STRUCTURE MADE CONFORMING
01:53:39PM AS A RESULT OF A VARIANCE IN CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION
01:53:44PM 27-132 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: BECAUSE THIS IS AT A --
01:53:48PM THIS IS A CORNER LOT WHERE BOTH FRONT SETBACKS ARE REQUIRED.
01:53:57PM THAT THIS IS REALLY ACTING AS A SIDE.
01:54:00PM SO THIS IS MORE OF A SIDE SETBACK.
01:54:03PM >> A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:54:06PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:54:08PM YES, SIR.
01:54:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT THE PETITIONER TO ASK THIS IS FOR
01:54:12PM FAMILY ONLY?
01:54:14PM >> YES, MY MOTHER.
01:54:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:54:17PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
01:54:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU KNOW I'M EMPATHETIC WITH THE
01:54:23PM SITUATION, BUT I AM ALSO CONCERN OF THE PUBLIC USE OF THE
01:54:26PM PROPERTY.
01:54:27PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL.
01:54:28PM AND I AM EMPATHETIC WITH YOUR SITUATION.
01:54:31PM NOT THAT MY VOTE WILL MATTER IN THIS.
01:54:33PM I WILL VOTE NO ON THAT.
01:54:35PM BECAUSE I FEEL WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT THE
01:54:37PM OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT THE IMPACTS OF THE REDUCED
01:54:40PM SETBACKS MEAN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN AGAIN RALE.
01:54:41PM THANK YOU.
01:54:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
01:54:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
01:54:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
01:54:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:54:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:54:50PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN VOTING NO AND VIERA
01:54:54PM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
01:54:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:54:57PM NEXT UP, ITEM 54 FOR A HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
01:55:01PM HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
01:55:04PM HELLO, SIR, HOW ARE YOU?
01:55:06PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
01:55:07PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS,
01:55:12PM DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC
01:55:17PM PRESERVATION MANAGER.
01:55:17PM EXCITED TO BE HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 54, ADDING TO OUR
01:55:21PM INVENTORY OF LOCALLY HISTORIC LANDMARKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
01:55:28PM WITH THE DOBY HOUSE.
01:55:29PM THE RESIDENCE OF RICHARD AND FLORENCE DOBY.
01:55:35PM YOU MAY RECALL AT THE END OF 2022, EXPANDING THE HYDE PARK
01:55:39PM LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT A GOOD DEAL OF DISCUSSION TO PROTECT
01:55:44PM THE RESOURCES OF DOBYVILLE.
01:55:46PM WE INCLUDED THE DOBY HOUSE IN THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AT
01:55:49PM THAT TIME, WE HAD -- ALL WAS INTENDED TO COME BACK TO THIS
01:55:54PM INITIAL PROTECTION WAS -- WAS APPLIED.
01:55:56PM AND SEEK THE RECOGNITION TO THE STRUCTURE AS A LOCAL
01:55:59PM LANDMARK AND THANKFULLY MISS NELAN, WHO IS THE OWNER, WAS
01:56:06PM VERY SUPPORTIVE.
01:56:07PM AND ACCOMMODATING AND RESEARCHING THE PROPERTY WITH US IN
01:56:12PM ORDER TO BRING IT TO YOU TO -- THIS AFTERNOON.
01:56:15PM ELAINE LUND IS HERE WITH MY STAFF.
01:56:20PM SHE WILL PRESENT A POWERPOINT TO YOU WITH THE BASIC CRITERIA
01:56:28PM FOR LOCAL DESIGNATION.
01:56:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
01:56:31PM LOCAL LANDMARK THAT WILL PREVENT A PROPERTY WERE BEING
01:56:35PM DEMOLISHED, CORRECT?
01:56:46PM >> CORRECT.
01:56:46PM IT WAS TAKEN OFF THE REGISTRY AND DEMOLISHED.
01:56:51PM JUST A GENERAL QUESTION BUT NOT A PERMANENT THING?
01:56:56PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: THE ORDINANCE APPLIED TO THESE
01:56:59PM PROPERTIES IS PERMANENT.
01:57:00PM THERE ARE PROCESSES FOR DEMOLITION EVEN WITH LOCALLY
01:57:04PM LANDMARKED PROPERTIES.
01:57:05PM I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
01:57:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS FRANK LYNN AND HARRISON WHERE
01:57:11PM THEY ARE RECONNECTING THE STREET.
01:57:13PM A CORNER BUILDING THERE.
01:57:14PM IT WAS A PAWN SHOP.
01:57:17PM I WAS A PHOTO OF IT AND LOOKING AT IT THE OTHER DAY.
01:57:20PM IT WAS DESIGNATED AND THEN DEMOLISHED.
01:57:23PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR
01:57:29PM THIS YEARS, DURING THAT TIME ONLY ONE BUILDING THAT WAS
01:57:33PM LOCALLY LANDMARKED BUT HAD TO BE DEMOLISHED BECAUSE OF
01:57:38PM CONDITION.
01:57:38PM IT IS A FACT THEIR PROTECTS BUILDINGS.
01:57:40PM 100% IF HE CAN TESTIFY?
01:57:43PM PERHAPS NOT, BUT IT CAN GREATLY IMPACT.
01:57:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-ON.
01:57:51PM THEY HAD A NATIONAL DESIGNATION BUT NOT A LOCAL DESIGNATION.
01:57:57PM THE CITY HAD TO PAY A LOT OF MONEY TO DEAL WITH THAT.
01:58:01PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: THAT PROPERTY ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC
01:58:06PM PRESERVATION DOES NOT HAVE PROTECTIVE MEASURES.
01:58:10PM REGULATORY EFFECT FOR FEDERAL EXPENDITURE OF DOLLARS ON
01:58:15PM THOSE PECULIAR STRUCTURES THAT REQUIRE MITIGATION.
01:58:17PM ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT WAS RECONSTRUCTED IN ITS NEW SITE.
01:58:21PM LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION BRINGS THE PROTECTIONS OF THE
01:58:26PM LOCAL ORDINANCES WHY WE BRING THOSE TO YOU BECAUSE THEY ARE
01:58:30PM MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE FOR US.
01:58:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS.
01:58:33PM MISS LUND.
01:58:34PM >>ELAINE LUND: GOOD AFTERNOON, ELAINE LUND, HISTORIC
01:58:39PM PRESENTATION STAFF.
01:58:39PM WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
01:58:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
01:58:42PM >>ELAINE LUND: THERE WE ARE.
01:58:44PM SO AS STATED, THIS IS REGARDING THE LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
01:58:51PM DESIGNATION OF THE DOBY HOUSE AT 1405 WEST AZELLE STREET.
01:58:55PM THE OWNER OF THE CIRCA 1912 DOBY HOUSE ONCE THE HOME OF
01:59:01PM RICHARD DOBY AND HIS FAMILY, SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO THE
01:59:03PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR THE LOCAL HISTORIC
01:59:06PM LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF THE HOME.
01:59:08PM THE HPC REVIEWS PROPERTIES FOR ELIGIBILITY FOR LOCAL
01:59:13PM HISTORIC DESIGNATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH 27-257 WITH THE
01:59:19PM CITY'S CODE.
01:59:19PM LOCAL DESIGNATION PRESERVES AND PROTECTS OUR CITY'S HISTORIC
01:59:23PM RESOURCES AND THE CITY'S HERITAGE.
01:59:25PM THE DOBY HOUSE IS LOCATED ON AZEELE STREET BETWEEN OREGON
01:59:31PM AND ORLEANS AVENUES.
01:59:32PM ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY AS SAT IN 1915.
01:59:37PM AND ON THE RIGHT, YOU GO SEE THE PRESENT DAY AERIAL OF THE
01:59:42PM PROPERTY.
01:59:42PM JUST TO THE WEST AND THE NORTH IS THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY.
01:59:45PM AND LANDS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
01:59:47PM THE RED LINE ON THE AERIAL MAP INDICATES THIS NORTH PRE OF
01:59:53PM THE LOCAL HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
01:59:55PM AND THEN, AGAIN -- AGAIN, HERE IS THE MAP OF THE GREATER
02:00:02PM HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT
02:00:07PM BOUNDARY SHOULD BE IN RED.
02:00:08PM THE BLUE LINE IS FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC
02:00:11PM DISTRICT BOUNDARY.
02:00:12PM AND THE LOCATION OF THE DOBY HOUSE IS MARKED BY THE GREEN
02:00:17PM ARROW.
02:00:17PM RICHARD DOBY WAS WELL-KNOWN IN TAMPA DURING THE EARLY PART
02:00:24PM OF THE 20th CENTURY AS A SUCCESSFUL BLACK ENTREPRENEUR.
02:00:26PM IN ADDITION TO OWNING HIS OWN BUSINESSES AND ICE DELIVERY
02:00:31PM AND TRASH COLLECTION, HE ALSO BOUGHT AND SOLD REAL ESTATE
02:00:35PM WITH ENOUGH HOLDINGS TO DONATE LAND TO SERVE THE BLACK
02:00:42PM COMMUNITY IN TAMPA. HE DONATED THE LAND FOR THE DOBY
02:00:45PM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THE ZION CEMETERY.
02:00:47PM HE ALSO CONTRIBUTED A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF FUND TO BUILD
02:00:51PM THE CIRCA 1917 ST. PAUL AME CHURCH ALSO A LOCAL HISTORIC
02:00:56PM LANDMARK.
02:00:57PM THE DOBY HOUSE IS A VESTIGE OF THE DOBYVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD
02:01:03PM THAT STRETCHED FROM SWANN NIGHT TO FIG STREET TO ALBANY
02:01:09PM AVENUE AND WAIL LOW ON THE EAST.
02:01:11PM DOBYVILLE WAS A THRIVING COMMUNITY IN THE EARLY 20th CENTURY
02:01:16PM HOME TO MANY OF THE PLAQUE AMERICANS WHO WORKED AS DOMESTICS
02:01:21PM IN HYDE PARK.
02:01:21PM RATE OF HOMEOWNERSHIP IN DOBYVILLE WAS HIGHER THAN MOST
02:01:25PM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND NOTED THAT THE RENT QUARTERS WERE
02:01:29PM GENERALLY IN GOOD CONDITION.
02:01:31PM IN ADDITION TO HOUSING, DOBYVILLE WAS HOME TO THE DOBYVILLE
02:01:35PM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND SEVERAL CHURCHES.
02:01:36PM SEVERAL FACTORIES WERE FOUND ALONG THE ACL RAILROAD THAT RAN
02:01:47PM DIAGONALLY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU CAN SEE THIS
02:01:50PM HERE WITH THE 1957 PHOTOGRAPH.
02:01:52PM THE RAILROAD CORRIDOR RUNNING DIAGONALLY THROUGH THE
02:01:56PM PICTURE.
02:01:57PM THIS PICTURE IS FROM JUST PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE
02:02:00PM EXPRESSWAY CONSTRUCTION.
02:02:01PM THE DOBY HOUSE IS LOCATED JUST OFF THE BOTTOM OF THIS
02:02:04PM PICTURE SO WE DON'T SEE IT THERE.
02:02:06PM WE DO SEE THE DOBYVILLE SCHOOL IN THIS PHOTO.
02:02:08PM IT REMAINED OPEN UNTIL 1966 WHEN IT WAS DEMOLISHED T
02:02:13PM FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY AS
02:02:16PM WERE MANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, HOMES AND BUSINESSES.
02:02:19PM SO THIS HOUSE IS A MODEST WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE THAT HAS
02:02:25PM OPINION COVERED IN STUCCO.
02:02:26PM IT IS MUCH LIKE OTHER HOUSES THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED
02:02:30PM THROUGHOUT THE DOBYVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:02:31PM WHILE NOT SIGNIFICANT FOR ITS ARCHITECTURE, THE DOBY HOUSE
02:02:37PM IS SIGNIFICANT WITH THE AFFILIATION TO RICHARD DOBY AND
02:02:41PM ELIGIBLE UNDER CRITERION A OF THE NATIONAL REGISTER IN THE
02:02:47PM AREA OF COMMUNITY PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT.
02:02:49PM AND UNDER CRITERION B OF THE AREA HAVE ETHNIC HERITAGE.
02:02:54PM THE APPLICATION WAS MADE BY THE OWNER MISS NELAN ON APRIL
02:03:01PM 23, 2024.
02:03:02PM HPC MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THIS
02:03:08PM APPLICATION ON SEPTEMBER 17.
02:03:10PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMPLETED ITS EVALUATION OF THE
02:03:14PM PROPOSED DESIGNATION IN OCTOBER.
02:03:17PM AND THEY FOUND THAT THE APPLICATION WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE
02:03:21PM CITY OF TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
02:03:23PM NOTICE FOR THIS HEARING HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE OWNER, TO
02:03:27PM NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS.
02:03:30PM STAFF FINDS THAT THIS PROPERTY MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR
02:03:36PM DESIGNATION AS SUMMARIZED PREVIOUSLY FOUND IN SECTION 27-257
02:03:43PM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.
02:03:45PM AND, THEREFORE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE DOBY HOUSE AT 1405
02:03:55PM WEST AZEILE FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
02:03:59PM THANK YOU.
02:03:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:04:01PM I LOVE WHEN YOU AND MR. FERNANDEZ PRESENT SOMETHING TO
02:04:05PM COUNCIL.
02:04:05PM BECAUSE THE RESEARCH YOU DO ON PRESENTATION, I ALWAYS LEARN
02:04:08PM SOMETHING NEW.
02:04:08PM I LEARNED A LOT TODAY.
02:04:09PM GREAT PRESENTATION.
02:04:10PM YOU KNOW, DOBYVILLE IS SUCH A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR
02:04:15PM HISTORY AND MR. DOBY AND THE FAMILY -- THERE ARE RELATIVES
02:04:18PM -- I KNOW SOME OF THE RELATIVES.
02:04:20PM THEY ARE STILL HERE.
02:04:21PM AND IT IS -- IT IS SUCH A SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURE.
02:04:24PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:04:25PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
02:04:39PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:04:40PM >> TARA NELAN, 405 WEST AZEELE, AND I AM THE APPLICANT.
02:04:46PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CURIOSITY AND SUPPORT.
02:04:49PM I SUPPORT THE LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION 1405 WEST AZEELE
02:04:54PM FOR THE CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE TO THE CITY.
02:04:56PM I AM GRATEFUL TO THE GOOD WORK OF ALL PARTIES, INCLUDING HH
02:05:00PM PNA AND HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN CREEK.
02:05:03PM ALL THE NEIGHBORS, SUPPORTERS, COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS MEMBERS
02:05:10PM OF THIS CITY THAT PUT IN EFFORT TO SHARE THEIR WISDOM AND
02:05:14PM KNOWLEDGE TO EXPAND THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT TO INCLUDE
02:05:17PM HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN CREEK AND PARTS OF DOBYVILLE.
02:05:21PM NOW WE GET TO DESIGNATE THIS HOME SPECIFICALLY.
02:05:24PM AS YOU KNOW, MR. DOBY WAS NOTED TO BE A PIONEER IN THE BLACK
02:05:28PM COMMUNITIES IN TAMPA OVER 100 YEARS AGO.
02:05:31PM HIS PROMINENCE AND COMMUNITY MINDEDNESS LED THE NEIGHBORHOOD
02:05:35PM TO BE BEING CALLED DOBYVILLE.
02:05:38PM I HAVE COME TO LEARN THE LAND, AS YOU KNOW, THAT HE DONATED
02:05:42PM FOR A CHURCH AND A SCHOOL ARE GONE NOW.
02:05:45PM AND THE ZION CEMETERY WAS LOST FOR DECADES 1405 WEST AZEELE
02:05:55PM REMAINS.
02:05:56PM LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION TO KEEP THE DOBY FAMILY, RICHARD
02:06:01PM DOBY'S CONTRIBUTIONS, HIS LIFE STORY AND DOBYVILLE'S STORIES
02:06:05PM ALIVE IN TAMPA HISTORY AND HONORED TO PAY MY SMALL PART.
02:06:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:06:12PM ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM?
02:06:14PM COME ON UP.
02:06:15PM >> PATRICK CIMINO, 605 EAST OREGON AND LANDMARK OF THE HYDE
02:06:30PM PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
02:06:31PM WE WERE VERY INVOLVED IN THE EXPANSION OF THE DISTRICT AND
02:06:34PM QUITE THE ACCOMPLISHMENT.
02:06:35PM AND WE THANK YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT ENTITIES WITHIN THE CITY.
02:06:38PM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION, THE HISTORIC
02:06:45PM PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR RESTORING THAT.
02:06:47PM AND THIS IS A MISSING PIECE.
02:06:48PM AND TARA IS WILLING TOO PURSUE THIS BECAUSE COMES WITH
02:06:52PM LIMITATIONS BUT ALSO PRESERVE AS VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR
02:06:55PM HISTORY.
02:06:55PM AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT WE WANT IN OUR LOCAL HISTORIC
02:06:59PM DISTRICTS.
02:07:00PM SO I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL THE ENTITIES AND THANK TARA FOR
02:07:04PM HER INTEREST IN DOING THIS.
02:07:05PM IT HAS BEEN A VERY INCREMENTAL PROCESS FOR YEARS.
02:07:08PM AND THIS IS -- THIS IS A BIG MILESTONE.
02:07:11PM SO THANK YOU ALL.
02:07:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:07:14PM ANYONE ELSE?
02:07:15PM NO?
02:07:16PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
02:07:18PM SIR?
02:07:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY SAID I MAKE A COMMENT.
02:07:22PM MY OLD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
02:07:23PM I LIVED TWO BLOCKS FROM THIS HOUSE FOR YEARS.
02:07:25PM AND I LOVE WHAT IS LEFT OF DOBYVILLE.
02:07:28PM I'M SO HAPPY THAT WE GOT THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION EXTENDED.
02:07:32PM SOMETHING I TRIED TO DO WHEN HE WAS A NEIGHBOR AND WE
02:07:34PM COULDN'T.
02:07:34PM FINALLY WE DID IT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
02:07:36PM TARA, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN YOU MOVED IN THE HOUSE
02:07:40PM -- DID YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF IT WHEN YOU MOVED IN?
02:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME UP TO THE PODIUM TO GET YOU ON
02:07:50PM THE MIC.
02:07:50PM >> TARA NELAN.
02:07:52PM I KNEW PRIOR TO PURCHASING 1405 WEST AZEELE.
02:07:57PM I LIVED TWO AND A QUARTER BLOCKS AWAY FROM HPNNA.
02:08:02PM I WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND HISTORICALLY BLACK
02:08:05PM NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:08:06PM IT WASN'T UNTIL THE PANDEMIC GAVE ME PLENTY OF TIME TO DIG
02:08:11PM INTO THE HISTORY A LITTLE BIT MORE, WALK UP TO THE SIGN THAT
02:08:15PM IS REALLY NOT WALKABLE, BECAUSE IT IS IN A PIECE OF GRASS.
02:08:19PM BUT THE DOBYVILLE SIGN ITSELF THAT OBVIOUSLY THE IMAGE OF IT
02:08:24PM IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
02:08:26PM I LEARNED A LOT FROM MOVING IN.
02:08:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE SHE MOVED IN
02:08:30PM THIS HOUSE AND TOOK ON THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
02:08:33PM AND AS SOMEONE SAID, IF YOU DESIGNATE A HOUSE LIKE THIS.
02:08:36PM WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A LOT OF THESE OLD
02:08:39PM HOUSES HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN AND PEOPLE ARE BUILDING HUGE
02:08:42PM HOUSE THERE IS AND COULD YOU HAVE EASILY MONETIZED THIS.
02:08:45PM YOU TOOK THIS ON AS A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIDE.
02:08:48PM AND YOU BROUGHT IN SEVERAL IN THE HOME TOURS.
02:08:50PM YOU BROUGHT IN SEVERAL TOURS.
02:08:51PM AND YOU HAVE THE DOBY FAMILY IN.
02:08:53PM AND I WENT ON A TOUR WITH YOU AND WITH RODNEY POWELL A FEW YEARS
02:08:58PM AGO, AND GREAT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PROTECT
02:09:02PM IMPORTANT HERITAGE LIKE THIS.
02:09:03PM BECAUSE ONE OWNER COULD HAVE EASILY CHANGED ALL OF THAT AND
02:09:07PM GOTTEN RID OF A PIECE OF HISTORY.
02:09:11PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO
02:09:13PM CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS.
02:09:14PM >> THANK YOU.
02:09:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
02:09:19PM CLENDENIN AND SECONDED FROM MIRANDA.
02:09:21PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:09:21PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WILL YOU MIND READING IT.
02:09:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
02:09:25PM LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER 54, FILE NUMBER, HL-25-10735, HPC 24-27.
02:09:37PM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION.
02:09:39PM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, LOCATING DOBY HOUSE
02:09:43PM 1405 WEST AZEELE STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
02:09:47PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION THREE AS A LOCAL HISTORIC
02:09:50PM LANDMARK PROVIDING FOR A REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND
02:09:54PM PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:09:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:09:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:09:59PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:10:00PM AYE.
02:10:01PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:10:05PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FEBRUARY 20, 2025 AT 10:00 A.M
02:10:10PM AT CITY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN WILL 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR,
02:10:15PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
02:10:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:10:19PM >> THANK YOU.
02:10:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
02:10:22PM THESE ARE IN PERSON.
02:10:23PM START WITH ITEM NUMBER 60, THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
02:10:27PM FOLLOWED BY A STOPLIGHT AT FRANKLIN AND WATER STREET.
02:10:31PM YES, MA'AM, MISS FEELEY.
02:10:36PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF
02:10:41PM MOBILITY.
02:10:41PM I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A VERBAL UPDATE OR RESPOND TO THE
02:10:45PM MOTION CONCERNING THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT WITH THE
02:10:48PM RELATED GROUP.
02:10:49PM AND THEN THE REVERTERS ON SEPARATE PROPERTY.
02:10:57PM RFP FOR ROME YARD MARCH 17 OF TWIN CITIES -- 2021.
02:11:07PM IT WAS DEVELOPED THROUGH A SERIES OF PUBLIC MEETINGS.
02:11:10PM THREE OF THEM.
02:11:11PM ONE ON OCTOBER 13, 2021.
02:11:13PM ONE ON OCTOBER 16 OF 2021.
02:11:16PM AND ONE IN JANUARY OF 2022.
02:11:18PM THAT AGREEMENT WITH AS BROUGHT TO CITY COUNCIL AND
02:11:22PM ULTIMATELY ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION 2022-248 ON MAY 4, 2022.
02:11:30PM THAT AGREEMENT IS THE ONE IN PLACE NOW AND THAT WE ARE
02:11:32PM OPERATING UNDER.
02:11:33PM THE PARAMETERS THAT OF THAT AGREEMENT INCLUDED ARREST TAMPA
02:11:37PM CULTURAL CENTER, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT CENTER, 40% WMBE
02:11:42PM PARTICIPATION, REPAINTING OF THE MLK CENTER.
02:11:48PM AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITMENT THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN
02:11:51PM THAT -- IN THAT AGREEMENT WELL.
02:11:54PM AND I WOULD LIKE -- THAT -- THIS IS A TOTAL OF 954 UNITS
02:11:58PM THERE.
02:11:58PM 180 -- 185 AT 50% AMI.
02:12:03PM 94 AT 80% AME.
02:12:05PM 368 AT 40% AMI AND 307 MARKET RATE.
02:12:11PM SO JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
02:12:13PM THERE WAS NOT DISCUSSION OF THE YELLOW JACKETS THROUGH THE
02:12:20PM DEVELOPMENT OF THE CBA.
02:12:22PM THAT CBA HAS NOT BEEN AMENDED OR NEEDED TO BE AS THE
02:12:27PM PROBABLY IS GETTING STARTED AND DOING ENVIRONMENTAL
02:12:30PM REMEDIATION OUT OF THE SITE PRIOR TO VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION
02:12:37PM SO IN TERMS OF ANYTHING ADDITIONAL WITH THE YELLOW JACKETS,
02:12:41PM THAT AGREEMENT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT AT THIS TIME
02:12:48PM IN RELATION TO THE RELEASING OF THE REVERTER CLAUSES ON THE
02:12:54PM COUNTY BUILDING.
02:12:55PM THE COUNTY'S HEAD START BUILDING IS ON A PROPERTY OWNED BY
02:12:59PM THE CITY WITH A REVERTER THAT IT IS NOT USED FOR HEALTH
02:13:02PM SERVICES PROVISIONS AND VERY -- IT REVERTS BACK TO THE CITY.
02:13:08PM RIGHT NOW THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS GOING ON IN RELATION WITH
02:13:12PM THAT, AND IT IS A CONTRACT TYPE OF AGREEMENT IN
02:13:20PM NEGOTIATIONS.
02:13:21PM IF WE REACH AGREEMENT, THOSE ITEMS WILL BE BACK TO CITY
02:13:25PM COUNCIL.
02:13:25PM AT THIS TIME NO RELEASE OF THE REVERTER ON THE HEAD START
02:13:28PM PROPERTY OR ON THE MLK CENTER WHICH IS A COUNTY-OWNED
02:13:33PM PROPERTY WITH THE REVERTER IF WE DO NOT USE IT FOR PARK
02:13:37PM PURPOSES.
02:13:38PM THAT IS MY UPDATE TODAY.
02:13:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:13:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DIDN'T EVEN TURN ON MY LIGHT YET.
02:13:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS YOUR MOTION.
02:13:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
02:13:49PM THANK YOU, MISS FEELEY, FOR YOUR REPORT.
02:13:51PM HAVE WE EVER AMENDED A COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT?
02:13:58PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE.
02:13:59PM THIS IS IT.
02:14:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS THE FIRST ONE.
02:14:03PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE FIRST ONE AND ANOTHER ONE WILL BE COMING
02:14:07PM TO YOU FOR GASWORX, AND IT IS IN THE PUBLIC MEETING STAGE
02:14:11PM AND IN FACT I BELIEVE THEY HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT.
02:14:13PM THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
02:14:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY MEANINGFUL CONSERVATION WITH THE
02:14:24PM RELATED GROUP REGARDING THE YELLOW JACKETS?
02:14:27PM OR WITH AS THIS AN INTERNAL DECISION BASED ON US SAYING IT
02:14:32PM IS NOT AMENDABLE AT THIS TIME.
02:14:35PM DID YOU PRESENT IT TO THEM AT ALL, THE YELLOW JACKETS?
02:14:38PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IN THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT AND THE
02:14:41PM ROME YARD COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT ACTUALLY DOESN'T
02:14:45PM PREDATE ME, BUT I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS BUT OUR
02:14:53PM COMMUNITY BENEFITS ORDINANCE OF HOW IT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED
02:14:56PM WITH THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
02:14:57PM THE DEVELOPER HOLDS THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY
02:15:00PM AND THEY BRING BACK WHAT THE SUMMARIES OF THOSE WERE.
02:15:03PM I BELIEVE THEY WERE ATTACHED TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
02:15:06PM AGREEMENT IN EXHIBIT B OF THAT AGREEMENT.
02:15:08PM SO I -- I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT AT THIS TIME, I AM SORRY.
02:15:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM TALKING ABOUT SINCE THE MOTION WAS
02:15:15PM MADE.
02:15:15PM YOU KNOW THE MOTION WAS MADE BY ME IN THIS CHAMBER ABOUT THE
02:15:26PM POSSIBILITY OF THE RELATED GROUP ADDRESSING THE COMMUNITY
02:15:29PM BENEFIT AGREEMENT AND MAKING THE MODIFICATION TO INCLUDE THE
02:15:33PM YELLOW JACKETS.
02:15:34PM THEY AWARE OF THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THEY RECEIVED THAT WAS
02:15:39PM THE YELLOW JACKET?
02:15:40PM DO THEY KNOW THE HISTORIC ASPECT?
02:15:42PM CONTEXT HOW WE GET HERE TO PAINT THE BUILDING ACROSS THE
02:15:47PM STREET AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT WHICH IS
02:15:49PM OUR -- OUR, YOU KNOW, PARK AND RECREATION FACILITIES.
02:15:53PM THAT CAN BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
02:15:55PM BUT THE ACTUAL LAND WHERE THE YELLOW JACKETS WERE ONCE
02:16:04PM HOUSED COULDN'T BE PART OF AN INITIAL DISCUSSION.
02:16:07PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LAND RELATED TO
02:16:10PM THAT AND WHATEVER TOOK PLACE WAS PRIOR TO THE RFP.
02:16:20PM STAND NOT PROVIDE ANYTHING IN THAT RELATIONSHIP OF PROVIDING
02:16:23PM ADDITIONAL AMENITIES OR ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT.
02:16:26PM THE RESPONSES THAT CAME IN FOR RELATED WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE.
02:16:30PM YOU KNOW, THEY WERE EVALUATED ON THE CONTEXT OF THE RFP WITH
02:16:43PM AWARD BEING GRANTED.
02:16:44PM THE DEVELOPER THAT RECEIVED THE AWARD IN THIS CASE, RELATED,
02:16:49PM PERFORMED THE DEVELOPMENT OF CBA IN CONTEXT WITH THE CBA
02:16:54PM ORDINANCE.
02:16:54PM IT I DON'T BELIEVE -- AND LET MISS JOHNS TALK.
02:17:05PM I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE STANDING TO GO BACK TO THEM TO
02:17:07PM OPEN UP WHAT WAS FULFILLED AS IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR
02:17:11PM ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF HAVING A FURTHER DISCUSSION.
02:17:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
02:17:15PM I WILL TALK TO MISS REBECCA -- WILL YOU COME TO THE PODIUM,
02:17:19PM PLEASE.
02:17:19PM THIS IS THIS IS FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
02:17:34PM I KNOW THE RELATED GROUP IS NOT REQUIRED TO -- IS THERE AN
02:17:42PM TO AMEND A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT IF THERE ARE SERIOUS
02:17:46PM DISCUSSIONS REGARDING IT.
02:17:48PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:17:52PM IF BOTH PARTIES AGREE TO AMEND, IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE
02:17:56PM YOU.
02:17:56PM RUDG AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:18:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND WE ARE THE OTHER PARTY?
02:18:02PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: CORRECT.
02:18:03PM WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO FORCE THEM TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT.
02:18:12PM THEY WILL HAVE TO AGREE TO DO IT.
02:18:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE CONVERSATION HAS TO BE TAKEN PLACE
02:18:19PM FIRST.
02:18:21PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THERE WILL HAVE TO IT BE NEGOTIATIONS.
02:18:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF WE ARE AMENABLE, HOW DO WE DO THAT.
02:18:28PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: BRING A CVA BEFORE YOU LIKE WE DO ANY
02:18:33PM AGREEMENT WE BRING BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
02:18:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO ASK THEM TO BE
02:18:38PM AMENDABLE -- 50/50.
02:18:40PM IF WE SAY YES.
02:18:41PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THEY TWO HAVE TO AGREE TO IT.
02:18:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND WE FIND OUT IF WE AGREE OR NOT.
02:18:47PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: LIKE NEGOTIATIONS FOR AN AGREEMENT.
02:18:50PM WE NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.
02:18:51PM COME TO AN AGREEMENT AND DOCUMENT IT.
02:18:54PM BRING THAT DOCUMENT TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.
02:18:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
02:18:57PM SO THAT MEANS THAT THERE ARE TWO PARTIES INVOLVED.
02:19:00PM THE ORIGINATORS US, BECAUSE IT IS OUR LAND THAT WE GAVE TO
02:19:04PM -- WE GAVE IT AWAY OR DID THEY BUY IT?
02:19:07PM THE YELLOW JACKETS?
02:19:10PM >> WE OWN IT.
02:19:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID WE GIVE IT TO RELATED GROUP AS PART
02:19:14PM OF --
02:19:16PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: PARTNER WITH LEASING TO THEM AND PART WILL
02:19:19PM BE DEEDED TO THEM.
02:19:19PM THE TOWN.
02:19:20PM HOME PORTION WILL BE DEEDED TO THEM.
02:19:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DEEDED TO THEM.
02:19:23PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THE REMAINDER IS LEASED TO THEM.
02:19:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS A LEGAL QUESTION OR
02:19:28PM A DIFFICULT QUESTION.
02:19:29PM SO WHO BENEFITS THE MOST FROM IN COMMUNITY BENEFITS
02:19:38PM AGREEMENT FROM THE YELLOW JACKETS FOLD AND THEM BUILDING
02:19:43PM TOWN HOMES ON -- WE JUST FINISHED LESSENING TO A HISTORICAL.
02:19:47PM I GUESS WE WILL GET A HISTORICAL MARKER WHAT THE YELLOW
02:19:51PM JACKETS WOULD GET AT THIS POINT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THEY
02:19:54PM WERE ONCE THERE.
02:19:54PM THAT IS DONE IN SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, ONCE
02:20:02PM AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE WORKED AND PLAYED ARE NOW HISTORICAL
02:20:07PM MARKERS.
02:20:09PM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A SERIOUS OPPORTUNITY HERE AND REARS
02:20:12PM ACTUALLY A CONVERSATION WITH RELATED GROUP THAT APPEARS TO
02:20:15PM HAVE NOT HAVE HAPPENED APPARENTLY.
02:20:17PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REQUIRES A CONVERSATION --
02:20:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHO DOES THAT.
02:20:21PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: AS THEY ARE REARED TO BE WILLING TO --
02:20:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS GREAT.
02:20:24PM BECAUSE RELATED REALLY WANTS TO DO A LOT OF BUSINESS IN THE
02:20:27PM CITY OF TAMPA, SO THEM OPENING THEMSELVES UP TO A
02:20:29PM CONVERSATION IS NOT A THREAT, JUST AN OPPORTUNITY.
02:20:31PM AND WE CAN FIND OUT THEIR POSITION ON THIS.
02:20:33PM AND NOT BE FORCED A.
02:20:41PM I DON'T WANT TO TWIST THEIR ARMS.
02:20:43PM IT IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
02:20:45PM IF THEY ARE FOLLOWING PAINT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
02:20:47PM FACILITY ACROSS THE STREET NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROME YARD
02:20:50PM PROJECT AS A COMMUNITY AGREEMENT.
02:20:52PM CERTAINLY THE LAND WHERE THEY ARE BUILDING TOWN HOMES ONCE
02:20:55PM THE BASEBALL FIELD TO THE YELLOW JACKET, LAND THAT WE OWNED,
02:20:59PM THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT
02:21:01PM AGREEMENT AT LEAST THAT IS IT MY OPINION AND I AM STATING
02:21:08PM PUBLICLY BECAUSE I REPRESENT THE 65,000 CONSTITUENTS IN THE
02:21:13PM DISTRICT WHERE THE YELLOW JACKETS WERE HOUSED.
02:21:15PM LAND THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM.
02:21:17PM AND THE CITY GAVE THEM THAT LAND AND SAID, WELL, WE ARE NOT
02:21:20PM GOING TO BUILD YOU A BASEBALL FIELD AND GIVE YOU THE LAND
02:21:23PM AND YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE BASEBALL FIELDS THEMSELVES.
02:21:25PM AND THEY DID THAT.
02:21:26PM SO THERE IS SOME SORT OF BETWEEN MAYORS.
02:21:36PM THE YELLOW JACKETS ENDED UP WITH THE SHORT END OF THE STICK
02:21:42PM NEXT TO A GRAVEYARD.
02:21:43PM I AM TRYING TO, AS A COUNCILMEMBER, MAKE THE COMMUNITY HAPPY
02:21:46PM WITH A BETTER DECISION NOW THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENT
02:21:50PM COUNCIL.
02:21:50PM SO IF THERE IS -- IF THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION JUST BY
02:21:54PM LISTENING TO YOU AND MISS FEELEY IS THAT IT COULD START WITH
02:21:58PM FINDING OUT IF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN COMING TO THE TABLE.
02:22:01PM OR IS THAT THE MAYOR?
02:22:03PM WHO TWO BE -- WHO WOULD HAVE TO DO IT FIRST?
02:22:06PM US OR THE MAYOR?
02:22:12PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THE MAYOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR NEGOTIATING
02:22:15PM WHAT THE MAY -- THE MAYOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS
02:22:19PM RESPONSIBLE FOR NEGOTIATING THESE AGREEMENTS.
02:22:22PM SO YOU COULD MAKE A REQUEST THAT THE ADMINISTRATION LOOK AT
02:22:32PM DOING THIS, AND IF BENEFICIAL, START THE DISCUSSIONS.
02:22:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WOULD RATHER FOR US TO PAINT OUR MARTIN
02:22:40PM LUTHER KING, JR. CENTER.
02:22:40PM I WOULD RATHER DO THAT.
02:22:42PM AND MAKE THE YELLOW JACKETS A LITTLE BETTER THAN WHAT IT
02:22:46PM WAS.
02:22:46PM PART OF THIS IS FINDING OUT -- THINK OF THIS FROM THIS
02:22:50PM PERSPECTIVE.
02:22:50PM WHAT THE YELLOW JACKETS GAVE UP, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF THE
02:22:53PM THINGS THAT ONE PARTICULAR VERY INVOLVED CITIZEN HE WAS
02:23:04PM SAYING HE PROMISED.
02:23:05PM THEY HAVE A TRAILER ON AT A BASEBALL FIELD AND THEY HAVE
02:23:10PM INFRASTRUCTURE AND TWO BASEBALL FIELDS.
02:23:11PM A LOT OF ACREAGE.
02:23:13PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACRES ARE TWO BASEBALL FIELDS AND WHAT
02:23:16PM HAVE YOU.
02:23:17PM BUT FOR THIS LONG PERIOD OF TIME, NOT ONLY DID IT SIT VACANT
02:23:21PM AND EMPTY AND STILL THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS THE YELLOW
02:23:26PM JACKETS COULD HAVE STILL BEEN IN THERE AND THEN MOVED TO A
02:23:29PM BETTER FACILITY.
02:23:29PM SO JUST A LOT OF STUFF ON OUR END THAT I AM TRYING TO
02:23:32PM RECTIFY PUBLICLY.
02:23:33PM AND SO, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE.
02:23:38PM MAYBE FOR IT TO BEGIN WITH A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAY I
02:23:41PM DON'T REMEMBER TO SEE IF SHE IS INTERESTED.
02:23:43PM GOING TO THE TABLE WITH RELATED GROUP FINDING OUT IF THEY
02:23:50PM ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
02:23:52PM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW,
02:23:58PM HAPPENED WHERE THEY ACTUALLY -- AND I -- YOU KNOW, ME JUST
02:24:02PM LISTENING NOW IS THAT IT CAN'T HAPPEN UNLESS OUR SIDE
02:24:06PM PROBABLY STARTS FIRST.
02:24:07PM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE A BIG DEVELOPER VOLUNTEERING
02:24:11PM TO DO SOMETHING SO IT HAS TO START ON OUR END.
02:24:13PM MAYBE MY MOTION WAS NOT THE RIGHT MOTION FROM THE VERY
02:24:16PM BEGINNING WHEN I SAID TO TALK TO RELATED GROUP.
02:24:18PM I MEAN TO START INTERNALLY.
02:24:20PM IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BASED ON --
02:24:24PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT IS PROBABLY A GOOD PLAN TO SPEAK WITH
02:24:28PM THE ADMINISTRATION AND GET A PLAN ON OUR SIDE BEFORE WE
02:24:31PM APPROACH RELATED.
02:24:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION.
02:24:43PM IF THERE ARE COMMENTS FROM THE DAIS.
02:24:46PM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
02:24:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ADD BEFORE HE GO TO CARLSON, MIRANDA AND
02:24:51PM CLENDENIN.
02:24:51PM I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT IN A MOTION TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION
02:24:54PM START THAT CONVERSATION, BECAUSE IT'S YOU HAD MENTIONED
02:24:59PM DEEDED AND LEASED.
02:25:00PM IS THE PARCEL THAT IS THE BASEBALL FIELD, THE FORMER YELLOW
02:25:05PM JACKETS.
02:25:06PM IS THAT CITY-OWNED, LEASED OR DID WE DEED IT TO THEM?
02:25:10PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: YOU ARE GOING TO TEST MY MEMORY WITHOUT
02:25:12PM HAVING THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF ME.
02:25:13PM THAT IS PART OF WHAT WILL BE LEASED TO THEM.
02:25:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IT IS LEASED TO THEM.
02:25:19PM SO WE HAVE -- WE OWN IT.
02:25:21PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: CORRECT.
02:25:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY EVEN
02:25:25PM THOUGH THERE IS AN AGLEAM.
02:25:26PM CONVERSATION HERE IS -- I HEARD OF THE YELLOW JACKET FIELD
02:25:30PM FROM ALL OVER -- ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY.
02:25:33PM THEY MUST CARE ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
02:25:41PM SO MUCH GET DEMOLISHED, AND WE GET A HIS I CAN MARKER WHAT
02:25:46PM USED TO BE.
02:25:46PM THAT PARCEL IS THERE.
02:25:48PM I KNOW THE YELLOW JACKETS IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN.
02:25:52PM BUT HISTORICALLY, THAT IS THE IMPORTANT PARCEL.
02:25:54PM I THINK A LOT CAN BE DONE THROUGH COMMUNICATION AND TALKING.
02:25:57PM THE WORST THEY CAN SAY IS NO, BUT IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO
02:26:01PM DO.
02:26:01PM AND I THINK IF COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON WERE TO MAKE A MOTION
02:26:05PM SUPPORTED BY COUNCILMEMBERS SAYING WE ARE ASKING THE
02:26:08PM ADMINISTRATION, THE MAYOR TO REACH OUT AND HAVE THAT
02:26:10PM DISCUSSION, PERHAPS RELATED WOULD BE OPEN TO IT.
02:26:14PM AND WE COULD FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
02:26:16PM I MEAN THE ROME YARD PROJECT IS MASSIVE.
02:26:20PM THIS?
02:26:20PM A SMALL PIECE, BUT IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE
02:26:23PM COMMUNITY.
02:26:24PM AGAIN, I HEARD THIS FROM -- I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU LAW MANY
02:26:28PM PEOPLE.
02:26:29PM THE YELLOW JACKETS.
02:26:30PM YELLOW JACKETS.
02:26:31PM HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.
02:26:33PM WE LOST SO AS MUCH OF TAMPA'S HISTORY TO THE INTERSTATE,
02:26:36PM URBAN RENEWAL.
02:26:37PM ON AND ON AND ON.
02:26:38PM I THINK IF COUNCIL IS WILLING -- BECAUSE I WANT TO SUPPORT
02:26:41PM -- IF SHE MAKES A MOTION.
02:26:44PM WANT TO SUPPORT WE ASK THE MAYOR AND ADMINISTRATION TO REACH
02:26:48PM OUT AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
02:26:49PM PERHAPS RELATED WILL BE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT.
02:26:51PM AND SEE WHERE WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
02:26:53PM SO I AM IN SUPPORT.
02:26:55PM COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON, MIRANDA AND CLENDENIN.
02:26:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE THING -- I AGREE.
02:27:01PM I'M IN SUPPORT AS WELL.
02:27:02PM ONE THING WE CAN DO IS CONTINUE THIS -- THIS DOCUMENT UNTIL
02:27:08PM -- UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS.
02:27:09PM YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT THIS PROJECT STARTED UNDER THE LAST
02:27:19PM ADMINISTRATION AND GOT DELAYED.
02:27:22PM THE COMMUNITY WAS SUSPICIOUS WHY IT GOT DELAYED AND PUNTED
02:27:27PM TO THIS ADMINISTRATION.
02:27:27PM THIS ADMINISTRATION HELD AN RFP.
02:27:31PM WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN WITH THE RFP.
02:27:34PM THEY CHOSE RELATED AND NEGOTIATED FOR A YEAR BEFORE THEY
02:27:39PM TOLD US ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
02:27:39PM THEN THEY BROUGHT IT US TO FOR APPROVAL.
02:27:41PM HE DON'T REMEMBER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE YELLOW
02:27:45PM JACKETS AT ALL DURING THAT TIME.
02:27:46PM THIS SOMEBODY BROUGHT IT UP, WE WOULD HAVE ALL DEFENDED IT.
02:27:49PM BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS, ALL THAT CONVERSATION WENT ON.
02:27:54PM THE IRONIC THING NOW IS THAT THE FORMER MAYOR WHO PUNTED
02:28:04PM THIS IS A LOBBYIST FOR THE RELATED GROUP.
02:28:08PM MAYOR'S PARTNERS FIRM IS A LOBBYING TERM FOR THE RELATED
02:28:13PM GROUP AND BOTH OF THOSE WERE CONFIRMED TO ME BY A RELATED
02:28:19PM REPRESENTATIVE.
02:28:19PM MAYOR'S PARTNER DOESN'T WORK ON. SPECIFICALLY BUT THE MAYOR
02:28:23PM PARTNER'S TERM WORKS ON IT.
02:28:28PM RELATED GROUP IS REALLY PHILANTHROPIC.
02:28:39PM TWO MUSEUMS DOWN IN MIAMI AND THEY ARE INCREDIBLY
02:28:44PM PHILANTHROPIC AND NICE PEOPLE AND WILL BE WILLING TO DO
02:28:47PM SOMETHING, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION EVEN KNOW
02:28:50PM YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY, YOU SHOULD AFTER TO MEET WITH
02:28:53PM THEM ESPECIALLY SINCE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT MAY DISAGREE WITH
02:28:55PM ME, BUT BASED ON THE ETHICS RULES OF THE CITY AND THE STATE,
02:29:00PM THE MAYOR HAS PERSONALLY HAS A CONFLICT AND SOMEONE ELSE
02:29:05PM SHOULD NEGOTIATE IT.
02:29:06PM I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST, WE SHOULD APPROVE A LETTER
02:29:10PM APPROVED BY YOU AND OR THE CHAIR TO REPRESENTATIVE OF
02:29:15PM RELATED TO ASK THEM TO CONSIDER THIS.
02:29:16PM I THINK THEY ARE REASONABLE PEOPLE AND THEY WOULD.
02:29:19PM SECONDLY, TALK OF THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER MEYERS.
02:29:23PM BUT I WANT TO SUPPORT YOU IN THIS IN WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO
02:29:26PM DO.
02:29:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I -- I JUST HAD A THOUGHT, MISS
02:29:29PM JOHNS.
02:29:29PM OKAY.
02:29:30PM SO JUST OUTSIDE OF RELATED GROUP, BECAUSE I MET MR. MILO FOR
02:29:37PM LUNCH SOME MONTHS BACK.
02:29:39PM AND I PURPOSELY DID NOT HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I
02:29:42PM DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DO SO.
02:29:44PM EVEN A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAY I DON'T REMEMBER IF SHE IS
02:29:55PM OPEN PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE THE YELLOW JACKETS
02:29:58PM HOLE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND PARKS AND RECREATION
02:30:01PM WHERE MONEY IS SET ASIDE.
02:30:03PM DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RELATED GROUP FROM SOME PERSPECTIVE.
02:30:08PM YOU KNOW COMMUNITY GOOD WILL.
02:30:09PM I THINK IT SHOULD BE.
02:30:15PM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE THEY WATCH COUNCIL
02:30:18PM MEETINGS.
02:30:19PM I AM OPEN TO US MAKING AN EFFORT.
02:30:22PM A SINCERE EFFORT TO NOT JUST KEEP KICKING THE CAN ON THE
02:30:26PM YELLOW JACKETS WHERE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING PARKS
02:30:36PM AND REC IN AND SAY WHAT DO WE DO.
02:30:39PM AND, YOU KNOW, TO -- TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION OVER THERE.
02:30:42PM THE -- ONE THING -- AND PROBABLY -- I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD
02:30:48PM AND SAY IT NOW BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY REPORT -- THE REPORTER
02:30:51PM MAY JUST TAKE THE BLURB OF WHAT I SAID ABOUT THIS ENTIRE
02:30:56PM AREA AND GO AND SAYS IT NOW ON RECORD THAT WHEN -- WHEN THE
02:31:01PM -- THE N. BOULEVARD HOMES WERE DEMOLISHED, WE DID IT ALL AT
02:31:05PM ONE TIME.
02:31:06PM AND A WONDERFUL PERSON IN MY COMMUNITY WHO IS A LICENSED
02:31:08PM CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER SAID THAT WAS GENOCIDE TO THE BLACK
02:31:13PM COMMUNITY.
02:31:14PM BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE DONE IT IN PHASES.
02:31:16PM WHAT IRONIC ABOUT THAT, IN MIAMI, A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT,
02:31:20PM HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, THAT THE RELATED GROUP ACTUALLY IS
02:31:23PM STILL CONSTRUCTING, THEY DID IT IN PHASES.
02:31:26PM AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE FAULTS OF THE PAST ADMINISTRATION
02:31:36PM IN DEALING WITH THIS BECAUSE I DID ASK THE PREVIOUS MAYOR
02:31:39PM WHY DID YOU MOVE THE YELLOW JACKETS.
02:31:41PM HE SAID BECAUSE NO KIDS THERE.
02:31:43PM AND MY IMMEDIATE THOUGHT.
02:31:45PM YES, BECAUSE YOU FOR DOWN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
02:31:49PM YOU FOR IT TO BE DOWN AT ONCE.
02:31:50PM YOU DEMOLISHED IT.
02:31:52PM NOW PER HERE AS A NEW BODY TO TRY TO RECTIFY THIS.
02:31:56PM AND NOT, YOU KNOW, LOOK SO MUCH AT POLITICS, BUT, YOU KNOW,
02:32:00PM AT -- DOING WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, ESPECIALLY
02:32:04PM -- ESPECIALLY BECAUSE HANDS DOWN A HISTORICAL MARKER WOULD
02:32:11PM BE THE EASIEST THING FOR US TO DO.
02:32:14PM THAT -- THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
02:32:16PM BECAUSE THE YELLOW JACKETS IS REAL.
02:32:18PM AND THEY WERE THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
02:32:21PM IT ORIGINATED THERE.
02:32:22PM SO THAT IS THE EASY PART OF US MOVING A MOTION FOR THAT.
02:32:25PM LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT TO -- BECAUSE THEY MOVED OUTSIDE OF THE
02:32:30PM COMMUNITY.
02:32:30PM SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO RECTIFY.
02:32:33PM AND I WANT THE ADMINISTRATION, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL TO BE
02:32:36PM A PART OF THAT.
02:32:37PM AND NOT MAKE IT SO -- WHAT I NEED FROM THE STAFF IS FOR YOU
02:32:42PM ALL TO COME UP WITH THE YES INSTEAD OF MONTHS AND MONTHS OF
02:32:51PM COMING BACK AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS.
02:32:53PM WE KNOW HOW WE CAN GET HERE.
02:32:56PM WE CAN GET HERE FASTER IF THE STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL IS ON
02:33:00PM BOARD.
02:33:00PM THAT WHAT I WANT.
02:33:01PM THAT IS WHAT I WANT.
02:33:02PM I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
02:33:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN CLENDENIN.
02:33:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID IT EARLIER MANY TIMES.
02:33:12PM IF THEY PROMISED SOMETHING AT CLINTON PARK, I THINK IT WAS.
02:33:18PM AND THAT IS A LONG WAY FOR THEM TO TRAVEL AND WE SAID THAT
02:33:23PM DURING THE MEETING A WAY BACK.
02:33:25PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT.
02:33:27PM I KNOW THAT THEY PLAYED AND PRACTICED AT PLYMOUTH PARK.
02:33:30PM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT OR BROKE UP OR
02:33:35PM NOT.
02:33:35PM I DON'T KNOW, WHY THEN, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE YELL LOWELL
02:33:42PM JACKETS.
02:33:43PM I REALLY DON'T.
02:33:44PM THAT IS THE FIRST -- TO THE YELLOW JACKET.
02:33:47PM I REALLY DON'T.
02:33:48PM THAT IS THE FIRST THING AND THE SECOND THING IS THE PARK.
02:33:51PM AND MR. MULKEY WHO IS HEAD OF PARKS AND RECREATION CAN
02:33:55PM ENLIGHTEN US.
02:33:56PM WHAT SIZE IS THE PARK.
02:33:57PM WHAT IS COMING UP AND IF THERE ARE ANY PLANS FOR IT,
02:34:00PM WHATEVER.
02:34:00PM HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
02:34:08PM >>TONY MULKEY: THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
02:34:12PM TONY MULKEY, DIRECTOR OF PARK AND RECREATION.
02:34:15PM 2017, PARK HAS TWO SMALLER SIDES.
02:34:21PM PLYMOUTH AND HAS THE LARGER FIELD.
02:34:28PM FROM WHAT I RESEARCHED ON THIS AND FOUND, THERE WAS A LOT OF
02:34:31PM NEXT ON WHICH SITES THEY WANTED OUT OF THE TWO THAT WERE
02:34:35PM OFFERED.
02:34:35PM AND IT WAS SETTLED ON THE CALVIN TAYLOR PARK AT THE END OF
02:34:39PM THE DAY BECAUSE THEY HAD FIELDS AND SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
02:34:42PM THE OTHER DID NOT HAVE AT THAT POINT.
02:34:45PM TIME THEY WERE TRANSFERRED, ADMINISTRATION ALLOCATED 250,000
02:34:49PM FOR IMPROVEMENT TO THE SPACE.
02:34:51PM THE FIELD WERE REDONE WITH REGRADING.
02:34:53PM DUGOUTS REBUILT.
02:34:55PM SINCE THEN INTERNALLY, WE HAVE FOCUSED ON RESOURCES
02:34:58PM AND WE CONTINUE TO DO SO.
02:35:00PM AND REALLY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE WHAT WE
02:35:03PM COULD DO.
02:35:04PM WE WOULD LIKE A ROAD MAP.
02:35:07PM WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
02:35:09PM LEAVING HERE, I WILL HAVE OUR ATHLETICS TEAM LOOK AT THE
02:35:14PM SITE AND WHAT WHOLESALE IMPROVEMENT CAN BE DONE AS WE
02:35:17PM PREPARE OUR BUDGETS.
02:35:18PM THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE RECENTLY ENGAGED WHERE
02:35:21PM THE RAY AND INSTALLED NEW SCREENS AROUND THE PROPERTY WE
02:35:29PM UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMIC WITH THE TRAILERS.
02:35:32PM BRING IN PORTABLE REST ROOMS INSTEAD OF PORTALETS.
02:35:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REMEMBER GOING OVER THE BRIDGE TO THE
02:35:43PM RIGHT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT TO THE PARK, THE YELLOW
02:35:46PM JACKETS PARK.
02:35:46PM STAND LOOKED TO ME LIKE IT WAS -- IT WAS A MAJOR PARK WITH
02:35:55PM ONE BIG FIELD.
02:35:55PM AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAD A COUPLE OF SMALLER FIELDS, BUT
02:36:00PM IT LOOKED LIKE A SOFTBALL FIELD WHICH WAS THE SITE OF A
02:36:05PM 12-YEAR-OLD BASEBALL PLAYER BOYS AN GIRLS PLAYER.
02:36:08PM I DON'T KNOW OF ANY DYNAMICS.
02:36:11PM IF ANYTHING BIGGER THAN THAT.
02:36:12PM I AM SURE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
02:36:14PM BUT I DON'T REMEMBER.
02:36:16PM ONE PARK.
02:36:17PM ONE LITTLE NEAT LITTLE THING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:36:20PM >>TONY MULKEY: TWO FIELDS ON THAT SITE.
02:36:22PM ONE WAS A WARMER FIELD COMPARABLE TO THAT PLYMOUTH SCYTHE.
02:36:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T REALIZE ALL THAT.
02:36:29PM I WILL TALK TO YOU LATER WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE.
02:36:32PM NOT NOW.
02:36:33PM IT IS NOT ON THE ONLY FOR TODAY.
02:36:34PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:36:35PM APPRECIATE IT.
02:36:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SUPPORT THAT TOO.
02:36:38PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:36:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, SOME OF WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA JUST
02:36:43PM SPOKE ABOUT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
02:36:45PM ONE, SOME OF THIS MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE THAT, ONE, THIS WAS
02:36:51PM AN AGREEMENT THAT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND ANSWERED.
02:36:54PM NOT JUST IN THIS ADMINISTRATION BUT THE PREVIOUS FAD
02:36:57PM ADMINISTRATION.
02:36:57PM SO IT IS LIKE, IT PUTS US IN A REALLY DIFFICULT DECISION
02:37:00PM BECAUSE NOT EVEN THIS MAYOR, THE PREVIOUS MAYOR
02:37:03PM ASSOCIATED THIS WITH A PRIVATE ENTITY AND REFERENCED
02:37:07PM POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY.
02:37:07PM LEASE IS A LEASE.
02:37:12PM IF YOU HAVE A BINDING LEASE.
02:37:14PM YOU HAVE A MEETING OF THE MINDS OF TWO PARTIES AND YOU
02:37:16PM SIGNED AN AGREEMENT, THAT IS A BINDING AGREEMENT.
02:37:19PM SO, I MEAN, WE ARE LEFT WITH THAT REALITY.
02:37:22PM I DON'T KNOW HOW COMFORTABLE I AM -- AND I AM GOING TO
02:37:25PM CONTRADICT MYSELF WHEN UP FINISH THIS.
02:37:29PM I THINK WE HAVE AN INTERNAL CITY THING WHERE WE HAVE JUST
02:37:32PM LIKE IN MANY PARKS.
02:37:34PM BUT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY OF THIS
02:37:37PM PARTICULAR PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE YELLOW JACKET LEAGUE AND
02:37:40PM WHAT IT MEANT TO SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
02:37:43PM WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BRING THIS UP TO STANDARDS.
02:37:46PM THAT IS A CITY RESPONSIBILITY.
02:37:48PM NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PRIVATE ENTITY.
02:37:51PM SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO.
02:37:52PM WE ARE PROBABLY JUST ABOUT READY TO START IN THE NEXT FISCAL
02:37:56PM YEAR BUDGET CYCLE.
02:37:56PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT BUDGET CYCLE HAS ENOUGH TO PUT
02:38:01PM PERMANENT REST ROOMS AND FACILITIES IN THERE THAT THE
02:38:04PM COMMUNITY DEMAND, THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
02:38:06PM MAKE SURE THAT STUFF IS THIS AND A CITY RESPONSIBILITY NOW I
02:38:11PM AM GOING TO CONTRADICT MYSELF.
02:38:12PM I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION.
02:38:14PM AND I DON'T WANT TO BE REVISITING SOMETHING, A QUESTION
02:38:19PM THAT HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED.
02:38:21PM I AM WONDERING IS IT TOO LATE BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE COUNTY
02:38:24PM COMMISSIONER AGAIN MYERS HAS BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THIS
02:38:29PM CENTER WERE ACROSS THE WAY.
02:38:33PM A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT ON -- ON HISTORY.
02:38:38PM AND GOING TO BE AMAZING PROJECT HOPEFULLY, FINGERS CROSSED.
02:38:45PM SEEM AS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT WE DID WITH THE
02:38:48PM BENEFIT AGREEMENT IS KIND OF POINTLESS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE
02:38:53PM OF WHAT COMMISSIONERS MYERS IS DOING.
02:38:55PM AND BETTER USE OF RESOURCES BECAUSE IF WE BOUGHT A CAR -- WE
02:38:59PM BOUGHT A 1970s PLYMOUTH AND NOW GOING TO BE A ROLLS-ROYCE.
02:39:05PM ARE WE WASTING MONEY, TAXPAYER MONEY, AND BETTER USE OF THAT
02:39:09PM MONEY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
02:39:10PM AND IS THAT A CONSERVATION -- A BROADER CONVERSATION THAT WE
02:39:13PM SHOULD BE HAVING ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
02:39:16PM THE WORLD CHANGED FROM THE TIME THIS BENEFIT AGREEMENT WAS
02:39:21PM NEGOTIATED.
02:39:21PM WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD.
02:39:23PM WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, OTHERWISE WE
02:39:26PM LOOK LIKE THE GOVERNMENT THAT PEOPLE HATE.
02:39:28PM WHY CAN'T WE PIVOT AND AT LEAST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
02:39:31PM I THINK THAT IS THE -- AND LEGAL STAFF SAID THIS IS
02:39:35PM SOMETHING THAT'S NOT IN COUNCIL.
02:39:37PM IT IS THE ADMINISTRATION BUT I AM SAYING THAT FOR THE
02:39:39PM PUBLIC.
02:39:40PM SORRY, GO AHEAD.
02:39:42PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:39:46PM I WANT TO POINT THIS OUT.
02:39:48PM THIS IS A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:39:51PM AND GAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
02:39:55PM AND NOW A COMMUNITY BENEFIT ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES PUBLIC
02:39:59PM MEETINGS.
02:40:00PM ANY AMENDMENT TO THIS AGREEMENT NEEDS TO INVOLVE DISCUSSIONS
02:40:05PM WITH THE COMMUNITY ALSO BECAUSE YOU ARE AMENDING A COMMUNITY
02:40:07PM BENEFIT.
02:40:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CONCUR 100%.
02:40:12PM WHAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND
02:40:15PM OBVIOUSLY THE ADMINISTRATION IS LISTENING TO THIS.
02:40:18PM SO I THINK -- IT IS PROBABLY WISE TODAY HAVE THAT BROADER
02:40:26PM CONVERSATION.
02:40:26PM AGAIN, I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT TOO BECAUSE I GET THE FACT
02:40:29PM WE HAVE AGREEMENTS AND WHEN DO YOU KEEP REVISITING THINGS.
02:40:32PM EVERY TIME -- I GET THAT.
02:40:34PM I TOTALLY GET THAT.
02:40:35PM BECAUSE OF WHAT THE COMMISSION IS DOING AND THE PROJECT
02:40:41PM ALONG THE WAY, I THINK THE SCALE OF IT WENT -- TIP IT OVER A
02:40:45PM LITTLE BIT SAYING MAYBE WE CAN REVISIT THIS.
02:40:47PM SECOND AND APART FROM THAT, WE NEED TO -- WE HAVE A LOT OF
02:40:51PM IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE IN THE CITY AND THAT PARK
02:40:53PM IS ONE OF THEM AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT -- WE NEED TO HAVE
02:40:56PM THAT -- WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
02:40:58PM AND GIVE IT THE RESOURCES THAT IT DESERVES.
02:41:00PM I AM DONE.
02:41:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:41:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:41:03PM AND IN MY OPINION, THIS IS WHAT AMENDMENTS ARE MADE FOR.
02:41:10PM THIS IS WHAT AN AMENDMENT.
02:41:12PM >> WHEN THINGS CHANGE, YOU AMEND.
02:41:15PM I AGREE WITH EVERYONE ELSE THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE TO HAVE THE
02:41:18PM CONVERSATION OF AMENDING IT.
02:41:19PM YES, DO WE WANT TWO COMPETING COMMUNITY CENTERS ACROSS -- I
02:41:23PM MEAN, WHAT IS THE VALUE IN THAT?
02:41:26PM IN THEORY AT THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT WHEN EVERYONE
02:41:29PM CAME TO AN AGREEMENT, THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
02:41:31PM COUNTY IS GOING TO DO A BIGGER -- BASED ON DOWNTOWN HE SIGNS
02:41:36PM I HAVE SEEN, MORE COMPREHENSIVE WHY ARE WE REPLICATING.
02:41:44PM CAN WE TURN AND TAKE THE MONEY AND USE IT FOR THE YELLOW
02:41:47PM JACKETS INSTEAD?
02:41:47PM MY ONLY THING -- IF WE HAVE TO END UP DOING IT OURSELVES.
02:41:51PM I AM FINE WITH THAT.
02:41:52PM I DON'T WANT IT TO COME OUT OF THE PARK AND REC BUDGET AS A
02:41:58PM WHOLE BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY LOW.
02:41:59PM I WANT TO FIND THE MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
02:42:00PM BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY THING I WOULD WANT -- AGAIN, I
02:42:04PM DON'T THINK WE SHOULD START THERE.
02:42:04PM IT SHOULD BE THE LAST THING.
02:42:06PM I THINK WE WILL SAY WE WILL MAKE THEM WHOLE WHATEVER IT
02:42:09PM TAKES.
02:42:09PM BUT THE FIRST THING I WOULD LOVE TO DO TAKE THE MONEY THAT
02:42:13PM WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE CULTURAL CENTER THAT NOW THE
02:42:15PM COUNTY IS GOING TO DO.
02:42:16PM AND HELP -- AND, AS YOU SAID, THE MURAL.
02:42:20PM WE CAN DO THAT OURSELVES.
02:42:22PM AND JUST -- DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MOVE THAT MONEY TO MAKE
02:42:26PM THEM WHOLE.
02:42:27PM I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
02:42:29PM YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
02:42:30PM I 100% SUPPORT YOU.
02:42:31PM IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ENTIRE COUNCIL SUPPORTS YOU.
02:42:34PM SO HOWEVER WE NEED TO GO FORWARD, I WILL SUPPORT -- I WILL
02:42:39PM BACK YOU IN THAT.
02:42:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE OTHER PART OF IF IS, IS THAT -- AND
02:42:45PM COMMISSIONER MYERS -- WE DIDN'T TALK YESTERDAY.
02:42:48PM SHE DID CALL ME.
02:42:50PM BECAUSE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES, THE COMMISSION AND, YOU KNOW
02:42:53PM -- IF -- IF THEY ARE ON BOARD WITH HER -- WITH THE CULTURAL
02:42:58PM CENTER, THERE IS A REVERTER CLAUSE IN PLACE.
02:43:02PM AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY IS NECESSARILY -- I DON'T KNOW
02:43:05PM IF STAFF IS -- IS WILLING -- THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS WILLING
02:43:08PM TO GIVE THAT UP.
02:43:09PM BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING A CULTURAL CENTER THAT COULD ALSO BE
02:43:13PM A PART OF WHAT -- WHAT COMMISSIONER MYERS IS TRYING TO DO.
02:43:17PM I KNOW AT ONE POINT IT WAS OFFERED TO HER AND SHE DECLINED.
02:43:21PM THAT IS WHY THIS IS SO COMPLICATED.
02:43:24PM LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
02:43:26PM WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT THE YELLOW JACKETS FIELD IS -- IS REALLY
02:43:30PM IN TERMS OF, IN MY HEAD, A SMALL -- A MUCH SMALLER BUDGET
02:43:35PM THAN BUILDING A CULTURAL CENTER.
02:43:38PM TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
02:43:40PM SIMPLICITY OF MAKING WHY THE HE WILL LOW JACKET WHOLE IN MY
02:43:44PM MIND DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
02:43:46PM YOU ARE RIGHT, THE PARKS AND REC BUDGET IS TIGHT AND WOULD
02:43:50PM REAR FOR THE -- YOU KNOW FOR THE BUDGET TO INCREASE IN ORDER
02:43:53PM TO DO THAT IF IT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
02:43:55PM SEE, THAT IS WHAT MAKES THIS TRICKY.
02:43:57PM I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO NECESSARILY SUPPORT RELEASING THE
02:44:01PM REVERTER CLAUSE.
02:44:03PM WHAT ARE WE GET GOING WE GIVE THAT UP.
02:44:05PM THAT IS NOT FAIR.
02:44:06PM SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR HEALTH SERVICES AND TO GIVE THAT UP.
02:44:09PM WHAT ARE WE GETTING FROM THE COUNTY?
02:44:12PM I DON'T KNOW.
02:44:13PM THAT IS -- SO TODAY IS -- FOR -- WHAT I HAVE WOULD DO -- I
02:44:18PM WOULD END WITH THIS.
02:44:19PM YOU KNOW HOW -- I NEED A MOMENT OF REFLECTION BEFORE I EVEN
02:44:23PM MAKE A MOTION.
02:44:24PM I DON'T EVEN WANT TO RUSH TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY.
02:44:27PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
02:44:28PM I WILL COME BACK AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
02:44:31PM BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A REPORT PRESENTED.
02:44:33PM WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT IN TERMS OF -- WE
02:44:41PM CAN ONLY TALK UP HERE.
02:44:42PM I WILL GIVE IT SOME MORE THOUGHT.
02:44:44PM BECAUSE -- BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF EVEN -- EVEN THE
02:44:49PM CULTURAL CENTER THAT GWEN MYERS IS PROPOSING DONE HAVE
02:44:56PM ANYTHING TO DO WITH US.
02:44:57PM I DON'T KNOW IF SHE RAISED ALL THE FUNDING.
02:44:59PM AT POINT I HEARD WOULD COST $50 MILLION.
02:45:04PM CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE CHANGED SINCE SHE INITIATED THE
02:45:11PM IDEA.
02:45:11PM SO MUCH LONGER DOWN THE ROAD AND WE ARE STILL TRYING TO --
02:45:16PM STILL TALKING OF THE YELLOW JACKETS AND THIS.
02:45:18PM I JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT.
02:45:20PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE THE -- THE --
02:45:25PM THE CULTURAL CENTER THAT THE COMMUNITY DECIDED ON WITH ROME
02:45:29PM YARD, I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON THOSE TOES OVER AT BECAUSE
02:45:34PM PEOPLE THAN THAT SIDE THAT WANT IT TO BE EXACTLY HOW THEY
02:45:38PM INDICATED WITH ALL THAT CONVERSATION.
02:45:39PM SO I WILL JUST END IT WITH THAT.
02:45:41PM I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
02:45:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CULTURAL CENTER
02:45:46PM BUILT.
02:45:46PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE YELLOW JACKETS FIELD RESTORED TO
02:45:49PM THE ORIGINAL LOCATION.
02:45:50PM THAT IS MY GOAL.
02:45:51PM WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.
02:45:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
02:45:59PM I WILL GO AND HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE MAY I DON'T
02:46:01PM REMEMBER AND SEE WHAT HER POSITION IS RATHER THAN MAKE A
02:46:04PM MOTION AND HAVE TO WAIT FOR STAFF TO COME BACK.
02:46:06PM IT IS JUST EASIER, YOU KNOW, TO HASH IT OUT.
02:46:09PM BECAUSE I CAN TALK TO HER WITHOUT BREAKING SUNSHINE.
02:46:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
02:46:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL START THERE.
02:46:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE.
02:46:17PM BUT YOU HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND REFLECT UPON IT.
02:46:20PM AND WHEN YOU ARE READY TO MAKE THE MOTION.
02:46:22PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:46:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I JUST WANT -- FOR PEOPLE LISTENING.
02:46:26PM I WANT PEOPLE -- THE PROPERTY ON THE -- ON THE ROME YARD
02:46:31PM PROPERTY, THAT -- AGAIN, THAT QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AND
02:46:35PM ANSWERED AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT.
02:46:37PM WHAT IS WHOLE BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY SWAP WAS DONE A LONG
02:46:41PM TIME AGO.
02:46:41PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FACILITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY
02:46:46PM UTILIZING UP TO STANDARDS AND THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY WANT
02:46:48PM IN THAT FACILITY.
02:46:49PM I THINK THAT IS A REALISTIC GOAL OF THIS COUNCIL AND
02:46:52PM ADMINISTRATION.
02:46:53PM I MEAN REVISITING, LIKE TAKING BACK PROPERTY THAT IS LEASED
02:46:59PM --
02:46:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WAS NEVER --
02:47:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEARD SOMETHING AND WE CAN'T DO THAT.
02:47:04PM JUST TO MAKE SURE WE -- AND EVERYTHING YOU SIDE.
02:47:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I FOUND OUT A LONG TIME AGO THAT
02:47:12PM EXTORTION TO GET THE PROPERTY BACK.
02:47:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK IT APPROPRIATE THAT WE REQUEST
02:47:18PM THAT THE ADMINISTRATION ADDRESS THE TWO ISSUES WE JUST
02:47:26PM DISCUSSED.
02:47:27PM ONE IS -- WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THAT -- IN THAT COMMUNITY
02:47:31PM BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
02:47:32PM IT PERTINENT TO 2026 AND BEYOND?
02:47:35PM I MEAN, OR HAS TIME MOVED PAST THAT?
02:47:39PM IS IT WORTH REVISITING THAT STUFF?
02:47:41PM AND ALSO, HOW WE CAN -- HOW WE CAN MAYBE POSSIBLY REOPEN
02:47:45PM THAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT -- I DON'T THINK RELATED
02:47:49PM WANTS TO THROW MONEY AWAY EITHER.
02:47:50PM I DON'T THINK -- BECAUSE THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO SPEND MONEY.
02:47:53PM I DON'T THINK THEY WILL WANT TO SPEND MONEY THAT IS NOT
02:47:55PM GOING TO BE APPRECIATED.
02:47:57PM THEY ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO THINGS FOR THE
02:48:01PM COMMUNITY.
02:48:02PM AND OBVIOUSLY SO I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THEY WOULD WANT TO
02:48:06PM SPEND THEIR MONEY WISELY.
02:48:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE, NO?
02:48:09PM YES, SIR?
02:48:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER MYERS'
02:48:14PM REQUEST.
02:48:14PM I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON KIND OF ADDRESS IT AND MISS
02:48:19PM FEELEY KIND OF ADDRESSED IT.
02:48:20PM BUT THIS IS WHAT -- I HAVE TALKED TO COMMISSIONER MYERS AND
02:48:26PM THEIR AID AND THEY ARE ASKING A MUTUAL RELEASE OF THE
02:48:28PM REVERTER CLAUSE FOR THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY 210 3 NORTH ROME
02:48:34PM AVENUE WHERE THE FUTURE ARTS AND CULTURAL CENTER WILL BE
02:48:36PM BUILT.
02:48:37PM THEY SAID THEY HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CITY
02:48:40PM WITH SOME LANGUAGE.
02:48:41PM MISS FEELEY OR SOMEBODY, CAN YOU JUST TELL US ONE MORE TIME,
02:48:45PM IS THAT -- ARE YOU SAYING THIS WILL BE AN AMENDMENT ONCE
02:48:49PM THAT IS SIGNED THIS IS AN AMENDMENT AND SPECIFICALLY THE
02:48:52PM THING YOU ARE WORKING ON OR DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU TALKED
02:48:55PM ABOUT EARLIER?
02:48:59PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I AM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
02:49:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PARAGRAPH I JUST READ THAT THEY SENT ME
02:49:05PM ABOUT THE REVERTER CLAUSE IN REGARD TO 2103 NORTH ROME
02:49:09PM AVENUE.
02:49:10PM IS THAT -- IS THAT -- THEY -- COMMISSIONER MYERS' AIDE SAID
02:49:18PM NEXT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
02:49:20PM I THINK SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARDS TO THIS LANGUAGE, WAS THAT
02:49:24PM WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
02:49:28PM CONVERSATION THAT IS BEING NEGOTIATED AND WILL BE AN
02:49:32PM AMENDMENT.
02:49:32PM THAT DIFFERENT?
02:49:33PM >> WOULD NOT BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CBA.
02:49:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOTHING IN THE CBA THAT PREVENTS THE
02:49:45PM REVERTERS.
02:49:45PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNRELATED.
02:49:47PM NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF AN AGREEMENT IS REACHED OR
02:49:51PM SOMETHING HAPPENS WHERE IT APPEARS THAT THE OTHER CULTURAL
02:49:57PM CENTER IS MOVING FORWARD.
02:49:58PM CLEARLY WE WILL NOT HAVE TWO CULTURAL CENTERS, AND WE WILL
02:50:02PM LOOK BACK AT THE CBA IN ORDER TO REAPPROPRIATE AND TO HAVE
02:50:07PM THAT DISCUSSION.
02:50:07PM BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE AT THAT POINT YET WHERE ALL OF
02:50:11PM THIS IS IN ORDER TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE CBA.
02:50:14PM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THOSE ASSURANCES YET.
02:50:18PM SO THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, MR. MASSEY DID SEND OVER SOME
02:50:26PM LANGUAGE FOR THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER.
02:50:27PM HE BELIEVE THEY ARE REVIEWING THAT RIGHT NOW.
02:50:29PM AND IF THAT -- IF WE WERE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THAT, I
02:50:34PM BELIEVE THAT THOSE REVERTERS OR THE RELEASE OF THOSE
02:50:36PM REVERTER ALSO COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
02:50:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE LAST THING.
02:50:41PM FURTHER TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN SAID.
02:50:45PM RELATED IS A PRIVATE COMPANY.
02:50:47PM ONE OF THEIR AREAS OF INVESTMENT IS FOR.
02:50:50PM AND, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE A FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.
02:50:54PM BUT THEY ARE VERY PHILANTHROPIC.
02:50:56PM A DEAL WITH A DEAL.
02:50:58PM THE CITY CUT A DEAL WITH THEM SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
02:51:00PM WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR THEM TO DO IS WORK WITH US OR
02:51:03PM NEGOTIATE WITH US.
02:51:03PM BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO IN AND CHANGE A DEAL THAT
02:51:07PM WAS SIGNED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
02:51:08PM SO THAT WAS ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
02:51:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:51:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ONE LAST QUESTION.
02:51:15PM DID WE -- DO WE HAVE OUR OWN PLANS FOR THE -- FOR THE LAND
02:51:20PM THAT GWEN MYERS IS INTERESTED IN FOR A CULTURAL CENTER.
02:51:25PM DO WE HAVE PLANS FOR IT AS WELL THAT ARE POSSIBLY IN PLACE?
02:51:29PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
02:51:31PM I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IT IS THE HEAD START CENTER, AND WHEN WE
02:51:36PM LEASE IT -- OR CORN SAY IT TO THE COUNTY FOR THAT USE, THAT
02:51:41PM IS WHERE WE SAID THE INTENT WAS GIVEN IN THE CONVEYANCE THAT
02:51:45PM -- THAT LAND IS TO BE USED FOR THAT USE.
02:51:48PM IF IT IS NO LONGER USE TODAY ARE THAT USE, THEN THE CITY
02:51:51PM WOULD LIKE IT BACK.
02:51:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ISN'T A POSSIBILITY WE NEED THAT BECAUSE
02:51:56PM OF THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THERE.
02:51:58PM NEED THAT IF SILT FOR HEAD START.
02:52:01PM COUNTY WOULD STILL NEED THOSE SERVICES IN THAT LOCATION.
02:52:05PM ANYWAY, YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
02:52:07PM THAT IS FOR THEM, MISS FEELEY, THANK YOU.
02:52:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
02:52:11PM ANYTHING ELSE?
02:52:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOPE.
02:52:13PM NOT FROM ME.
02:52:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, STAFF.
02:52:16PM THAT WAS ROUGH.
02:52:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT WAS FINE.
02:52:18PM IT WAS NOT.
02:52:19PM 300 PEOPLE TO 3:00 IN THE MORNING IS ROUGH.
02:52:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS TRUE.
02:52:28PM ITEM 61.
02:52:29PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: GOOD AFTERNOON, BRANDON CAMPBELL OF THE
02:52:41PM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
02:52:41PM UPLOADED A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR ITEM 61 IF THAT CAN BE
02:52:46PM BROUGHT UP.
02:52:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE WE GO.
02:52:51PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: SO THE QUESTION YOU ASKED US ALL TO ADDRESS
02:52:55PM WHAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR INSTALLING TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT THE
02:52:59PM INTERSECTION OF FRANKLIN AND WATERS AND FRANKLIN STREET AND
02:53:04PM THE DICK GRECO PLAZA PEDESTRIAN CROSS.
02:53:09PM A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND SOME OF THIS WAS ADDRESSED IN PUBLIC
02:53:12PM COMMENT THIS MORNING.
02:53:12PM BUT IN JANUARY OF 2020, VIC AND I AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS MET
02:53:19PM WITH HARBOUR ISLAND STAKEHOLDERS AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION
02:53:23PM CENTER TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE ON THE
02:53:28PM FRANKLIN STREET AND HARBOUR ISLAND CORRIDOR, SPECIFICALLY
02:53:33PM BETWEEN BROREIN AND KNIGHT'S RUN.
02:53:37PM SEVERAL THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.
02:53:40PM OVERARCHING THEME IS CONFLICTS BETWEEN PEDESTRIANS AND
02:53:43PM VEHICLES.
02:53:43PM AND MORE PARTICULARLY DURING SPECIAL EVENTS.
02:53:46PM SO WE ENGAGED WITH CONSULTANT.
02:53:50PM IT WAS STANTEK.
02:53:53PM IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH STANTEK THEY HAVE 1450 OFFICES
02:54:00PM AROUND SIX CONTINENTS APPEAR ONE OF THEM HAPPENS TO BE ON
02:54:04PM HARBOUR ISLAND.
02:54:05PM DIRECTLY ON HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD.
02:54:07PM WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT FIT BECAUSE THEY HAD THE
02:54:10PM COMBINATION OF THE DAILY USER EXPERIENCE WITH THE EXPERTISE
02:54:15PM IN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS
02:54:20PM -- OR CONCERNS, I SHOULD SAY, THAT THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP
02:54:23PM AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MITIGATING SOME OF THOSE
02:54:25PM CONCERNS.
02:54:25PM THEY MADE SEVERAL OF THEM.
02:54:27PM AMONG THEM, ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED THAT IS NOTE
02:54:33PM WORTHY AND TO EASY TO SEE THE PROGRESS ON.
02:54:38PM RIGHT-TURN LANE OFF OF CHANNELSIDE OFF OF SOUTH FRANKLIN.
02:54:42PM IT PREVIOUSLY WAS A SHARED.
02:54:45PM CONVERT IT A RIGHT-TURN-ONLY LANE AND GAVE IT A SEPARATE
02:54:50PM SIGNAL HEAD AND DEDICATED RIGHT TURN FACE TO HELP REDUCE THE
02:54:55PM NUMBER OF CONFLICTS BETWEEN THOSE RIGHT TURNING VEHICLES AND
02:54:58PM THE PEDESTRIAN ACROSS THE SOUTH SIDE CROSS.
02:55:02PM THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED INSTALLING THE TWO SIGNALS IN
02:55:06PM QUESTIONED TO.
02:55:06PM I UPLOADED INTO ON BASE THE COMPLETE STUDY FAIRLY LENGTHY
02:55:15PM AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MANY DETAILS OF THAT.
02:55:17PM THEY LOOKED AT THE SIGNAL WAR RANTS OUTLINED IN THE TRAFFIC
02:55:21PM CONTROL DEVICES.
02:55:24PM A MOUTH FULL.
02:55:26PM FEDERAL DOCUMENTS THAT SETS FORTH RULES AND EXPECTATIONS OF
02:55:30PM ALL TYPES OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES AND SPECIFICALLY
02:55:33PM SIGNALS AS WELL.
02:55:34PM THERE ARE NINE WARRANT WITHIN THE WARRANT ANALYSIS GUIDANCE
02:55:41PM AND THEY ARE MEANT TO ADDRESS DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONFLICT.
02:55:45PM SO SOME OF THOSE ARE VEHICLE ON VEHICLE CONFLICTS.
02:55:49PM SOME OF THOSE ARE CRASH EXPERIENCE.
02:55:51PM SOME OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
02:55:54PM THE ONE THAT -- THAT REALLY APPLIED MOST CLOSELY HERE WAS
02:56:00PM WARRANT FOUR, WHICH IS THE PEDESTRIAN WARRANT.
02:56:03PM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MEASURES.
02:56:05PM AND THE STUDY TOOK COUNTS AT DIFFERENT TIMES TO COMPARE THE
02:56:11PM CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE -- THE VEHICLES USING THOSE
02:56:15PM INTERSECTIONS AND THE PEDESTRIAN USING THEM AS WELL.
02:56:18PM AND -- AND WITHIN THAT STUDY, THERE WERE -- SO THERE IS --
02:56:25PM THE WARRANT ITSELF USE AS GRAPH.
02:56:28PM AND HAS A MINIMUM THRESHOLD FOR PEDESTRIANS, BUT THAT
02:56:31PM MINIMUM THRESHOLD.
02:56:33PM IT CHANGES DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH VEHICLE TRAFFIC IS THERE.
02:56:38PM SO JUST TO SIMPLIFY IT.
02:56:40PM A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEDESTRIANS BUT NO VEHICLES TO CONFLICT
02:56:43PM WITH THEM.
02:56:44PM THAT THRESHOLD WILL BE MUCH HIGHER BECAUSE JUST NOT THAT
02:56:47PM MUCH CONFLICT.
02:56:48PM SO THE -- THERE IS A LITTLE TEXT ON HERE.
02:56:51PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN READ IT, BUT THE STUDY ITSELF TALKED
02:56:58PM ABOUT HOW TRAFFIC SHOULD FLOW MORE EFFICIENTLY BY ORGANIZING
02:57:02PM AND SEPARATING THE PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS FROM THE VEHICLES
02:57:11PM AND IN SHORT, BRINGS MORE ORDER TO THE EXPECTATIONS OF ALL
02:57:14PM USERS.
02:57:14PM BOTH PEDESTRIANS CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS.
02:57:18PM NOTHING TELLING ANY PEDESTRIANS TO WAIT FOR A VEHICLE TO GO
02:57:23PM THROUGH.
02:57:23PM AS FLORIDA STATE LAW OUTLINES AND AS SHOULD BE THE CASE,
02:57:29PM VEHICLES ARE REQUIRED TO YIELD TO PEDESTRIAN IN THE
02:57:32PM CROSSWALK AND THERE IS REALLY NO ORDER TO IT IN THE WAY THAT
02:57:35PM PEDESTRIANS MAY BE BUNCHED TOGETHER AND CROSS -- AND CROSS
02:57:40PM IN A GROUP.
02:57:40PM WE INTEND AS WE SIGNALIZE THESE TWO LOCATIONS TO -- TO TIME
02:57:47PM THOSE SIGNALS AND SET UP DETECTION SO THAT THEY REMAIN IN
02:57:52PM GREEN FOR FRANKLIN STREET WHEN THERE IS NO CONFLICTING
02:57:56PM DEMAND.
02:57:57PM AND THAT -- THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE CONSTANT
02:58:01PM LEAVE CYCLING SIGNALS THROUGHOUT MUCH OF DOWNTOWN.
02:58:05PM HOWEVER, THERE IS AS GOOD ANALOG TO THAT IF YOU GO DOWN
02:58:09PM JACKSON STREET IN FRONT OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL.
02:58:14PM THE DISTRICT BUILDING.
02:58:15PM THERE IS -- THERE IS A -- A SIGNAL THERE THAT REMAINS IN
02:58:18PM GREEN FOR EASTBOUND TRAFFIC UNLESS SOMEONE PUSHES THE BUTTON
02:58:28PM OR ON A SIDE STREET.
02:58:30PM SOMETHING BE COULD ON OCCASION THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ALLOW
02:58:34PM FOR AND DICTATE.
02:58:38PM I DID WANT TO SHARE A GRAPHIC -- A GRANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
02:58:45PM CONCERN OF SPACING OF THOSE SIGNALS.
02:58:47PM AND I THINK IT IS HELPFUL TO ZOOM OUT AND TAKE A HIGHER
02:58:51PM LEVEL LOOK TO SEE THAT THE SPACING OF THE SIGNALS THAT WOULD
02:58:55PM BE INSTALLED AT WATER STREET AND AT THE -- AT THE CROSSWALK
02:59:01PM ITSELF IN THE RANGE OF 50 FEET WHICH IS THE BLOCK SPACING
02:59:05PM THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN IS IT WHILE WE WERE IN THE EDGE OF THE
02:59:13PM URBANIZED CORRIDORS WE ARE ON THE EDGE OF WHAT WE HAVE
02:59:16PM THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN.
02:59:16PM WE ALSO -- I DID NOT PUT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I WANTED
02:59:21PM TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS BROUGHT UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT
02:59:23PM THIS MORNINGS JUST SO THAT WE ALL SORT OF ARE ON THE SAME
02:59:27PM PAGE WITH THAT.
02:59:28PM THERE WAS ONE THING THAT WAS -- THAT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE
02:59:31PM POTENTIAL FOR A MINI ROUNDABOUT THERE.
02:59:34PM I HAVE SOME CONCERNS OF FACE REQUIREMENTS OF A MINI
02:59:37PM ROUNDABOUT.
02:59:38PM ONLY ABOUT 55 FEET FROM CORNER TO CORNER DIAGONALLY ACROSS
02:59:44PM THE INTERSECTION AND ADDITIONAL SPACE WOULD HAVE TO COME
02:59:46PM FROM THE ADJACENT SIDEWALKS MOST LIKELY AND I DON'T KNOW IF
02:59:50PM WE HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY HERE.
02:59:51PM EVEN MORE FUNDAMENTALLY THAN THAT.
02:59:53PM IT SOLVES THE WRONG PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.
03:00:02PM WHAT IS HAPPENING.
03:00:02PM NOTHING TELLING PEDESTRIANS LET'S WAIT AND THEN CARS GO.
03:00:07PM AND THEN YOU CAN GO AS GROUP.
03:00:09PM THE CROSSWALKS ARE TREATED LIKE THEY ARE NOW.
03:00:12PM WHEN A PEDESTRIAN WANTS TO CROSS, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO SO.
03:00:15PM THE OTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THIS MORNING THAT I
03:00:17PM WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THE TIMING OF THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT
03:00:20PM WERE TAKEN FOR THE STANTEK STUDY.
03:00:24PM I MENTIONED WE INITIATED THE STUDY IN EARLY 2020 JUST
03:00:36PM BEFORE.
03:00:36PM THE STANTEK STUDY IN 2022.
03:00:39PM INTERVAL TO HOLD OFF TAKING THOSE COUNTS BECAUSE OF THE LACK
03:00:43PM OF EVENTS IN DOWNTOWN SEPARATELY LOOKED AT TWO SEPARATE
03:00:50PM EVENTS.
03:00:51PM A PRESEASON LIGHTNING GAME AT THE ARENA AND THE OTHER A
03:00:54PM CONVENTION CENTER EVENT.
03:00:55PM IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE ESTIMATED ATTENDANCE WAS 6,000
03:01:04PM AND PRETTY GOOD MEASURES WHAT TO EXPECT.
03:01:09PM AND WE BELIEVE AT THIS TIME FRAME THOSE COUNTS WERE TAKE
03:01:14PM SUNSHINE A CONSERVATIVE MEASURE WHAT IS GOING ON DOWN THERE.
03:01:17PM SINCE THEN THE NUMBER OF EVENTS AND NUMBER OF PEDESTRIANS
03:01:20PM HAVE ONLY INCREASED THEREFORE BE THERE INCREASING THE
03:01:25PM CONFLICTS.
03:01:26PM WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT
03:01:28PM HAVE.
03:01:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:01:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THIS.
03:01:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM SORRY.
03:01:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE BOTTOM LINE WITH THIS IS THAT THE
03:01:38PM HARBOUR ISLAND COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT EITHER ADDITIONAL
03:01:41PM LIGHT.
03:01:43PM A YEAR OR TWO AGO, THEY SAID SINCE YOU ALL AREN'T BUDGING,
03:01:47PM WE WILL ACCEPT THE MARRIOTT -- THE LIGHT AT MARRIOTT AT THE
03:01:53PM BRIDGE AND NOT ACCEPT IT THAT THE GRECO PLAZA.
03:01:57PM THE CITY DID DIRTY POLITICS.
03:02:00PM SAME TYPE OF DIRTY POLITICS IN THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT WHEN
03:02:04PM SOMEONE IS MAKING $65 MILLION.
03:02:06PM YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD PUSH THAT.
03:02:08PM THIS IS JUST A RED LIGHT.
03:02:10PM I ASKED THE LIGHTNING MORE THAN ONCE, DID YOU ALL ASK FOR
03:02:13PM THIS.
03:02:13PM THEY SAID NO.
03:02:14PM THUNDER ALLEY -- THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR IT.
03:02:16PM THEY DON'T NEED IT.
03:02:17PM WHY WOULD SOMEONE PUSH SO HARD FOR THIS.
03:02:19PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
03:02:21PM THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO BE PROVEN RIGHT OR SOME ENGINEER
03:02:24PM WANTS TO BE PROVEN RIGHT?
03:02:26PM A COROLLARY IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF ERRATIC DECISIONS
03:02:29PM MADE IN THE MOBILITY AND STORMWATER TO SOME EXTENT.
03:02:32PM BUT MOBILITY ON -- ON EAST OF WILSON MIDDLE SCHOOL ON SWANN
03:02:37PM ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THE CITY WINTER IN AND SUDDENLY PUT BIKE
03:02:41PM LANES IN PLACE OF CARS.
03:02:42PM AND SO THE RESIDENTS ALL CALLED ME AND SAID WHY DID THEY DO
03:02:46PM THIS?
03:02:46PM THEY DIDN'T TELL ANYTHING ABOUT IT TO US.
03:02:49PM THE CITY PUSHED BACK AND SAID NO, WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THIS.
03:02:53PM I CALLED VIK AND I SAID THIS IS CRAZY.
03:02:57PM YOU ARE CAN'T DO SOMETHING WITH THIS.
03:02:59PM VIK SAID I WILL LOOK AT IT.
03:03:02PM I GOT E-MAILS FROM WALK-BIKE TAMPA.
03:03:04PM I CALLED THEM AND SAID WHAT HAPPENED?
03:03:06PM HOW DID YOU GUYS EVEN THOUGH ABOUT THIS?
03:03:08PM AND YOU KNOW THIS DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL A FEW DAYS AGO.
03:03:11PM THEY SAID A MEMBER OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT CALLED THEM.
03:03:14PM TOOK THEM ON A TOUR, A WALKING TOUR AND EXPLAINED HOW THIS
03:03:18PM WAS A DUMB IDEA AND I WAS A BAD GUY BECAUSE I WANT TODAY GET
03:03:22PM RID OF BIKE LANES WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.
03:03:25PM BECAUSE I AM IN FAVOR OF BIKE LANES.
03:03:26PM ERRATIC DIRTY POLITICS.
03:03:28PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORS.
03:03:30PM THE MAYOR, THERE WAS TWO OR THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE THEY
03:03:35PM DIDN'T INVITE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS.
03:03:37PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WE KNOW IN HINDSIGHT AND PROBABLY
03:03:40PM LAWSUITS ABOUT THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
03:03:42PM IT IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE AND IRRESPONSIBLE WE PASS SOMETHING
03:03:45PM LIKE THIS.
03:03:45PM BUT TO FIGHT OVER -- OVER A -- A -- ATTRACT LIGHT WHEN WE
03:03:50PM NEED POTHOLES FILLED ALL OVER THE CITY.
03:03:52PM WE NEED MORE TRAFFIC LIGHTS ON BAYSHORE.
03:03:55PM WE NEED TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:03:58PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I AM NOT ASKING A QUESTION BUT I AM
03:04:01PM MAKING A STATEMENT.
03:04:02PM I DO NOT UNDERSTAND SOMEONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF.
03:04:05PM WE HAVE SEEN ERRATIC BEHAVIOR FROM SOME OF THE STAFF, BUT WE
03:04:09PM ACTUALLY SEE THIS.
03:04:10PM COMMUNITY ABSOLUTELY DOESN'T WANT IT.
03:04:12PM OTHER THING WE KNOW -- I GO THROUGH THERE MYSELF AND BACK UP
03:04:17PM HOW THE WAY TO HOWARD AVENUE, WE HAVE A PEDESTRIAN PROBLEM.
03:04:22PM WHAT HAPPENS IF WHEN YOU ARE TURNING RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE
03:04:24PM CONVENTION CENTER, THERE ARE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THERE.
03:04:27PM I ASKED MANY TIMES TO BAN HAVING THE POLICE HAPHAZARDLY SHUT
03:04:32PM THINGS DOWN BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS CAN HANDLE
03:04:35PM EVERYTHING.
03:04:35PM WE NEED TO STOP THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON THE NORTH SIDE OF
03:04:38PM THAT STREET.
03:04:38PM AND HAVE IT ALL TO THE SOUTH SIDE, BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T TURN
03:04:42PM RIGHT.
03:04:42PM IT IS BLOCKING -- IT IS -- IT IS CAUSING GRIDLOCK IN SOUTH
03:04:46PM TAMPA BECAUSE OF THAT BURN TURN.
03:04:47PM THE SECOND TURN IS UP ON THE NEXT STREET NEAR PAM IORIO
03:04:53PM GARAGE.
03:04:54PM NEED TO GIVE PEDESTRIANS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
03:04:57PM THE WAY IT IS BEING HANDLED IS HAPHAZARD.
03:05:01PM THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC SYSTEM IS MADE UP.
03:05:04PM I TALKED TO THE TRAFFIC PLAYERS AND THEY ARE ALL UPSET ABOUT
03:05:08PM IT.
03:05:08PM AGAIN, NOT A QUESTION.
03:05:09PM WHY THIS ADMINISTRATION IS PLAYING SUCH DIRTY POLITICS OVER
03:05:14PM ATTRACT LIGHT.
03:05:15PM DOESN'T SENSE.
03:05:17PM GIVE IT UP AND MOVE THE MONEY TO POTHOLES AND GIVE HARBOUR
03:05:21PM ISLAND WHAT THEY WANT.
03:05:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:05:25PM I WANT TO HIT ON SOME OF THEM.
03:05:26PM SOME I MAY CONCUR, SOME MAY NOT.
03:05:30PM THAT INTERSECTION COMES UNTIL OFF OF THE BRIDGE, COMING INTO
03:05:33PM DOWNTOWN, MAKING THE RIGHT ON FRANKLIN IS A MESS.
03:05:36PM HE FIND IT TERRIBLE POLICING AND THEIR TRAFFIC CONTROL IS
03:05:40PM TERRIBLE.
03:05:40PM JUST TERRIBLE.
03:05:41PM AND I EXPERIENCE THAT ALL THE TIME.
03:05:43PM I MADE COMMENTARY TO POLICE OFFICERS.
03:05:45PM YOU GUYS GO THE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF POLICING THAT
03:05:48PM INTERSECTION.
03:05:48PM BADLY.
03:05:50PM THEY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB.
03:05:52PM YOU KNOW, THERE ARE IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE ARE
03:05:54PM HAVING TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF COUNCILS AND
03:05:59PM ADMINISTRATIONS OF A BYGONE AREA.
03:06:02PM THEY COMPLETELY OVERDEVELOPED WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND
03:06:05PM EVERY TIME WE PUSH BACK ALL THE TIME.
03:06:07PM SOMETIMES WITH PEOPLE COME WITH WHAT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD
03:06:10PM PROBABLY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOESN'T SUPPORT IT.
03:06:12PM AND THEN NOW SOME -- HERE WE ARE AS A LIVING EXAMPLE OF --
03:06:16PM OF A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT.
03:06:18PM YOU KNOW WE HAVE SOME -- YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS THAT ARE
03:06:20PM HAPPENING IN OUR HARBOUR ISLAND.
03:06:22PM MUCH TO SOME FOLKS' DISPLEASURE AND GOING TO CONTRIBUTE MORE
03:06:26PM TO THIS PROBLEM INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE.
03:06:32PM SOMETHING TELLS ME THAT NONE OF THIS.
03:06:34PM NONE OF THIS IS THE SOLUTION.
03:06:35PM NOTHING THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
03:06:37PM THIS IS ALL LIPSTICK ON THE PIG OR BAND-AID.
03:06:40PM WHATEVER EUPHEMISM WOULD LIKE TO USE.
03:06:46PM IT WILL CREATE AS MANY PROBLEMS AS WE ATTEMPT TO SOLVE.
03:06:51PM OBVIOUSLY THE SOLUTION WILL BE FOR THE TAMPA CONVENTION
03:06:54PM CENTER TO EXPAND OVER THE ROAD AND HAVE EGRESS ON THE EAST
03:06:58PM SIDE OF FRANKLIN SO WE DON'T HAVE ALL THIS PEDESTRIAN
03:07:02PM TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH.
03:07:03PM YOU KNOW THAT IS THE SOLUTION. THIS -- THIS IS NOT THE
03:07:06PM SOLUTION.
03:07:06PM BUT, YOU KNOW, LIABILITY -- I DON'T KNOW.
03:07:10PM I WILL TALK -- I -- I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
03:07:12PM BECAUSE I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN IT.
03:07:15PM BECAUSE I LIVED IN FRONT OF THE BIKE LANES YOU TALKED ABOUT
03:07:17PM ON SWANN.
03:07:18PM NOW THAT YOU OPENED IT UP, I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN THE
03:07:21PM EXCHANGE FOR JUST A COUPLE OF PARKING SPOTS, BIKE RIDE --
03:07:27PM RIDE-BIKE.
03:07:28PM WHATEVER THE ORGANIZATION.
03:07:29PM THEY ARE RIGHT.
03:07:29PM WHEN -- WHEN THE -- WHEN THE PUBLIC PRESSURE FROM A HANDFUL
03:07:33PM OF PEOPLE ENDED UP CREATING -- MADE THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT
03:07:37PM GO THERE AND RESTRIPE THAT PROPERTY.
03:07:39PM WE NOW HAVE A MUCH MORE UNSAFE POSITION ON SWANN WITH
03:07:42PM BIKERS, WALKERS, CAR TRAFFIC.
03:07:43PM WE HAVE COMPRESSED -- COMPRESSED LANES.
03:07:46PM PEOPLE CAN'T BACK OUT INTO THEIR DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE TRAFFIC
03:07:52PM IS RIGHT UP THERE AGAINST YOU AND LITERALLY IN EXCHANGE FOR
03:07:55PM A COUPLE OF PARKING LOTS.
03:07:57PM MOBILE WENT IN THERE AND RESTRIPED IT.
03:07:59PM I UNDERSTAND THE ARTS CENTER.
03:08:03PM FOR THE GREATEST GOOD AND THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE FOR
03:08:07PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:08:07PM WE SHOULD HAVE LEFT WELL ENOUGH ALONE AND LET THE BIKE LANES
03:08:14PM TO BE PROTECTED AND SAFE BECAUSE A HIGHLY USED CORRIDOR FOR
03:08:17PM WALKERS AND BEAKERS.
03:08:19PM HIGHLY USED CORRIDOR AND ALSO CARS, BY THE WAY.
03:08:22PM NOT SO MUCH PARKING.
03:08:23PM I MEAN, LITERALLY HANDFUL OF PARKING SPOTS.
03:08:27PM ANYWAY, I DIGRESS.
03:08:29PM WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER.
03:08:32PM SO I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
03:08:34PM SO THE TRAFFIC ROUNDABOUT.
03:08:36PM I SPENT THE LAST WEEKEND OR SO WITH SARASOTA WITH A PLETHORA
03:08:40PM OF ROUNDABOUTS.
03:08:41PM WHAT DOES IT SOLVE AND WHAT PROBLEMS WILL IT CREATE, A SMALL
03:08:44PM ROUNDABOUT@AT THE INTERSECTION BY THE MARRIOTT.
03:08:48PM SO A ROUNDABOUT.
03:08:49PM AS IT WAS PRESENTED THIS MORNING, I KNOW A MINI ROUNDABOUT
03:08:54PM WAS DISCUSSED.
03:08:55PM IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I BELIEVE THAT HAD THE ENGINEER WHO
03:08:59PM BROUGHT IT UP SAID 880 FEET IN DIAMETER.
03:09:03PM AND SO, I AM NOT CERTAIN IT EVEN FITS.
03:09:06PM SO JUST FOR CLARITY THERE.
03:09:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S SAY WE CAN GET THE PROPERTY.
03:09:12PM IF HYPOTHETICALLY THE PROPERTY WASN'T A PROBLEM.
03:09:15PM >> ROUNDABOUT WILL THE TURNING VEHICLES.
03:09:21PM AND BECAUSE NO ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONTROL AT THE CROSSWALKS
03:09:26PM OPPOSED TO WHAT IS OUT THERE NOW.
03:09:27PM THE TARGETED ISSUE WHICH IS CONFLICTS BETWEEN PEDESTRIAN AND
03:09:32PM CARS IS NOT REALLY MITIGATED BY A ROUNDABOUT.
03:09:35PM ROUNDABOUTS SLOW TRAFFIC -- I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS TRULY
03:09:39PM A SPEED PROBLEM THERE.
03:09:40PM BUT -- SLOWING TRAFFIC AND -- AND SEPARATING CONFLICTS
03:09:45PM BETWEEN CARS CLENDENIN CLEAN JUST BETWEEN CARS.
03:09:48PM PURPOSE -- IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A PURELY HOW WE
03:09:52PM ARE GOING TO DESIGN THE BEST SYSTEM TO RESOLVE CONFLICT
03:09:55PM BETWEEN VEHICLES AND VEHICLES AND VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIAN.
03:09:58PM AND YOU ARE GOING TO DESIGN WITH LAYOUT WE HAVE NOW WITH THE
03:10:03PM HOTELS, THE ARENA, THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE RIVERWALK, AND
03:10:08PM -- AND EGRESS AND INGRESS TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
03:10:12PM HOW WOULD YOU FIX THIS IF YOU WEREN'T USING A TRAFFIC LIGHT?
03:10:16PM THAT SOUND LIKE A VIK BHIDE QUESTION.
03:10:18PM >>VIK BHIDE: MAY I ADDRESS THAT?
03:10:21PM >> SURE.
03:10:21PM >>VIK BHIDE: I THINK YOU HIT ON A REALLY GOOD POINT.
03:10:24PM AND THERE IS AN ASYMMETRY BETWEEN THE KIND OF LAND USE AND
03:10:29PM THE DENSITY THAT WE HAVE IN DOWNTOWN.
03:10:31PM AND THE KIND OF TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WERE LINKED TO BECAUSE
03:10:39PM OF CIRCUMSTANCES.
03:10:40PM IDEALLY, THE KIND OF LAND USE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DOWNTOWN
03:10:45PM IS BEST SERVED BY -- BY SIGNIFICANT TRANSIT SERVICES AND A
03:10:50PM MUCH DIFFERENT MODE MIX WE ARE PRIMARILY CARS AND WE SAY A
03:10:58PM PEDESTRIAN PROBLEM, MOST OF THOSE PEDESTRIAN ARE DRIVERS AS
03:11:01PM WELL.
03:11:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT ACCEPT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY BECAUSE OF
03:11:05PM THE HOTELS AND TOURISTS AND LIGHTNING GAMES.
03:11:07PM SO WE HAVE A HIGH -- A HIGH DENSITY OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IN
03:11:11PM THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND A MAJOR RESIDENTIAL -- MIXED USE
03:11:17PM RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ON AN ISLAND WITH ONLY TWO BRIDGES
03:11:20PM THAT HAVE TO TRANSITION THROUGH THIS AREA.
03:11:25PM WHY AREN'T WE TALKING OF ELEVATED TRANSITIONS FROM EAST TO
03:11:29PM WEST?
03:11:30PM >>VIK BHIDE: PRIMARILY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK.
03:11:32PM THE DATA SHOWS --
03:11:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IF YOU BLOCKED OFF ACCESS?
03:11:36PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS NOT THE BEST DESIGN TREATMENT RIGHT NOW
03:11:39PM BASED ON THE STATE OF THE PRACTICE WHAT I CAN SHARE IS --
03:11:44PM THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS HERE.
03:11:46PM ONE IS WE CERTAINLY GOT THE LAND USE THAT DID NOT EXIST
03:11:51PM BEFORE AND NOW IS TRAFFIC.
03:11:52PM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS NOT BEEN USED TO.
03:11:55PM NO DOUBT ABOUT IT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC
03:11:59PM RELATIVE TO OURSELVES 15 YEARS AGO, A LOT OF TRAFFIC WE YOU
03:12:08PM LOOK AT OTHER CITIES WITH SIMILAR LAND USE.
03:12:10PM MIAMI AND DOWNTOWN PORTIONS OF ORLANDO AND SIMILAR CITIES.
03:12:14PM YOU HAVE SIMILAR TRAFFIC.
03:12:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SITTING ON BAYSHORE TO GET TO THE
03:12:23PM CONVENTION CENTER IS NOT LIKE ANY OTHER --
03:12:27PM >>VIK BHIDE: YOU HAVE DRIVEN IN MIAMI?
03:12:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OH, YEAH, FOR SOMETHING SIMPLE.
03:12:32PM WITH TRAFFIC, A MUCH MORE COMPLEX AND BIGGER SCALE PROBLEM
03:12:35PM RATHER THAN PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET.
03:12:37PM I MEAN, IT IS --
03:12:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: ABSOLUTELY.
03:12:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS THE THING.
03:12:41PM WE HAVE SOME VERY -- SHOULD BE SIMPLE.
03:12:43PM SO WHAT -- HAVING THE CONVENTION CENTER ENTRANCE ON THE EAST
03:12:49PM SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
03:12:55PM IS THIS DRIVING THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, THE CONVENTION
03:13:00PM CENTER.
03:13:00PM >> WHAT IS DRIVING THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IS MULTIPLE THING,
03:13:03PM THE RIVER WALK, CONVENTION CENTER, THE STREETCAR WHICH HAS A
03:13:07PM LOT OF TRAFFIC, AND THEN THE GARAGE.
03:13:10PM THE IORIO GARAGE AND THEN THE ARENA.
03:13:13PM TRAFFIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS IN THE AREA.
03:13:15PM AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SHARE WHEN WE HAD THE COMMUNITY
03:13:20PM MEETINGS AND WE INFORMED ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHEN WE HAD
03:13:23PM THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE IS IT SHARE THAT THERE IS A
03:13:27PM LONGER TERM VISION HERE THAT IS MOVING SLOWER THAN MAYBE I
03:13:32PM ANTICIPATED.
03:13:32PM AND THIS VISION IS THE FIRST PHASE OF WATER STREET INCLUDED
03:13:40PM WHAT YOU SAW RIGHT NOW.
03:13:41PM BUT THERE WAS A GARAGE PLAN WHICH IS NOW BEING BUILT AT
03:13:48PM CUMBERLAND AND MORGAN AND WILL TAKE THE PARKING ENERGY
03:13:52PM FURTHER UP TO CUMBERLAND.
03:13:54PM THAT CREATES THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW IS PEOPLE
03:13:57PM WAITING TO PARK AND QUEUEING UP AND CREATES A LOT OF THE
03:14:01PM BACK-UPS.
03:14:01PM ONCE THAT MOVES OUT, THEN ONCE THE RAMP FROM THEA GOES ALL
03:14:07PM THE WAY TO MERIDIAN, MOVE ALL OF THE TRAFFIC FROM THE
03:14:10PM CHANNELSIDE AREA AND MORE ON THE CUMBERLAND AND MERIDIAN.
03:14:23PM AND FOR GOOD REASON, BUT THE COMBINATION OF THESE THINGS
03:14:26PM THAT WILL MAKE THE SITUATION A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
03:14:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH PEDESTRIAN AND SAFETY AND YOU WENT
03:14:40PM DOWN TO MOVING CARS.
03:14:41PM I GUESS I AM NOT CATCHING THE --
03:14:44PM >>VIK BHIDE: THEY ARE BOTH RELATED.
03:14:45PM WHERE PEOPLE PARK ONCE THEY PARK, THEY ARE WALKING TO THESE
03:14:48PM DESTINATIONS AND CROSSING INTERSECTIONS.
03:14:50PM THAT -- THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
03:14:52PM SO.
03:15:01PM ONCE THE PEOPLE ARE PARKING DOWNTOWN, YOU ARE NOT SEE THE
03:15:05PM VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN CONFLICT.
03:15:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAVE WE DONE A PEDESTRIAN STUDY WHERE
03:15:09PM PEOPLE COMING FROM AND WHERE THEY ARE GOING?
03:15:11PM IS THAT --
03:15:13PM >>VIK BHIDE: ORIGIN DESTINATION STUDY?
03:15:15PM WE HAVEN'T.
03:15:15PM WHAT WE OBSERVED IS MOST OF THE TRAFFIC IS EITHER FOOT
03:15:19PM TRAFFIC FROM HOTELS DURING EVENTS THAT COME TO THE CON
03:15:22PM COLLEGE CENTER AND THE ARENA.
03:15:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE LAST QUESTION AND THEN I WILL SHUT UP.
03:15:35PM HAVE YOU PURSUED ANY OTHER SOLUTION BESIDES WHAT IS BEFORE
03:15:39PM -- OR WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY?
03:15:43PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE HAVE LOOKED AT A FEW OPTIONS ON WHAT TO DO.
03:15:46PM I DON'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY IN THE REPORT WHAT WAS
03:15:49PM MENTIONED.
03:15:50PM WHAT WE HAVE PUT FORTH IS A CONTINUATION OF THE DOWNTOWN
03:15:57PM GRID AS BRANDON MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE.
03:15:59PM SO WITHIN THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE CAN DO OUT
03:16:02PM THERE, THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION THAT WE ARE PUTTING FORTH.
03:16:04PM AM I MISSING ANYTHING?
03:16:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:16:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:16:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT IS HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING
03:16:23PM ON.
03:16:24PM BUT I THINK I CAN TELL YOU WHY IT LOOKS IN A WAY.
03:16:26PM IT IS CALLED ONE WORD "SUCCESS."
03:16:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
03:16:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WORD RIGHT NOW IS THE PAYMENT THAT
03:16:33PM WE ARE PAYING FOR SUCCESS.
03:16:38PM THE TIME WE USE IN MOVING AND DRIVING AND GETTING ACROSS THE
03:16:42PM STREET AND DOING THINGS WE NORMALLY NEED TO DO.
03:16:46PM AND WE REALLY WANT TO GO BACK IN THE '70s.
03:16:52PM I DIDN'T HAVE TO LOOK TO GO OUTSIDE.
03:16:54PM MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN AND GO HOME.
03:16:56PM NO ONE WALKING THE STREETS.
03:16:57PM NONE.
03:16:58PM THROUGH -- THROUGH THE TIME OF DIFFERENT MAYORS DOING THE
03:17:02PM BEST THEY CAN TO MAKE IT BETTER.
03:17:03PM IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER AND THROUGH COUNCIL GETTING BETTER.
03:17:07PM BY THE WAY, NO MAYOR DOES ZONINGS.
03:17:09PM CITY COUNCIL DOES THE ZONINGS.
03:17:11PM SO IF I AM GOING TO TAKE HEAT, I AM GOING TO TAKE IT FOR
03:17:15PM MYSELF.
03:17:15PM SO ALL THESE THINGS COMING TOGETHER AND ACCUMULATION OF A --
03:17:20PM OF 20 YEARS SEEMS LIKE A LOT.
03:17:22PM BUT A SHORT TIME IN HISTORY.
03:17:23PM ALL THAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS.
03:17:28PM SO WE USED TO HAVE A PEOPLE MORE TO CROSS OVER AND
03:17:32PM EVERYTHING ELSE.
03:17:33PM WE TOOK IT OFF-LINE.
03:17:34PM IT WASN'T BEING USED.
03:17:36PM A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENED THAT HAS CHANGED THE CHEMISTRY OF
03:17:40PM PEOPLE, THE TOLERANCE OF PEOPLE IS VERY LOW.
03:17:43PM AND I AM NOT TALKING OF ANYONE SPECIFIC.
03:17:46PM ALL OF US AND YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES.
03:17:51PM AND YOU WANT TO GET BETTER, QUICKER AND FASTER ALL AT ONE
03:17:55PM TIME.
03:17:55PM WHEN THERE IS AN EVENT, AND I AM NOT GOING TO MENTION WHERE
03:17:59PM OR ANYTHING ELSE.
03:18:00PM AND YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE WHERE THERE IS A EVENT
03:18:03PM LEAVING, YOU CAN'T GET OUT.
03:18:05PM IT HAPPENS TO EVERY BUSINESS.
03:18:07PM IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL, YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE SOMETHING
03:18:12PM THAT WILL SOMEHOW REDUCE AND HOW DO YOU GET AROUND.
03:18:16PM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
03:18:17PM AND IT JUST -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
03:18:23PM SPECTACULAR.
03:18:24PM I DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHEN.
03:18:26PM THERE WERE NO HOTELS IN DOWNTOWN.
03:18:28PM THE CONVENTION CENTER WAS SUFFERING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF
03:18:33PM LOSS.
03:18:33PM ONE HOTEL CAME IN, THE MARRIOTT WATERSIDE, I BELIEVE THAT
03:18:37PM IS.
03:18:37PM TWO OR THREE OTHER HOTELS INCLUDING A FIVE-STAR HOTEL.
03:18:40PM SO YOU HAVE JUST HOTEL ROOMS ALONE WENT MAYBE 1,000 ROOMS.
03:18:47PM WELL, TAMPA WAS RANKED ONE-TWO FOR HOTEL OCCUPANCY IN THE
03:18:55PM LAST YEAR OR TWO.
03:18:55PM THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE PEOPLE IN OTHER AREAS BANG THEIR
03:18:59PM CHESTS.
03:19:00PM FILLING THE ROOMS.
03:19:00PM NO, EVERYBODY IS FILLING THEIR ROOMS WHEN YOU GO OUT TO AND
03:19:04PM SPEAK -- WHERE ARE YOU FROM.
03:19:06PM THANK YOU FOR VISITING TAMPA.
03:19:07PM VISITING TAMPA HAS DONE A MARVELOUS JOB OF BRINGING
03:19:14PM CONVENTIONS.
03:19:14PM MAYBE YOU WANT TO BLAME THEM.
03:19:16PM THOSE THE ONES THAT BRINGING IN THE CASHOLA TO MAKE SURE
03:19:20PM PEOPLE HAVE JOBS DOWNTOWN AND DIFFERENT AREAS OF TOWN.
03:19:23PM AND GROWTH IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT ALSO VERY
03:19:26PM DANGEROUS.
03:19:27PM BECAUSE YOU TAKING AWAY A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU TOOK FOR
03:19:30PM GRANTED, LIKE THE FREEDOM TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B IN
03:19:36PM 15 MINUTES INSTEAD OF AN HOUR AND THESE ARE THE THINGS WE
03:19:39PM TRIED TO CHANGE NOW.
03:19:41PM I AM NOT HERE TO POINT FINGERS TO NO ADMINISTRATION AND
03:19:45PM MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
03:19:46PM UNITED WHICH MADE TAMPA DIFFERENT.
03:19:48PM WE MADE IT MORE COMPLEX.
03:19:49PM AND WE MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO LIVE IN.
03:19:52PM THANK YOU.
03:19:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:19:55PM >>VIK BHIDE: IF I CAN ADD REAL QUICK.
03:19:57PM WHAT YOU HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT WAS THAT -- I THINK THAT
03:20:00PM EVERYONE RECOGNIZES THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND WHAT WE
03:20:05PM ARE PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT SOMETHING IS WITH THE VERY
03:20:08PM SOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
03:20:09PM THE MOST SUITED TO OUR CONTEXT TODAY.
03:20:14PM THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO ADDRESS THIS CHALLENGE IF WE HAD THE
03:20:22PM LAND LOOK AT OTHER TREATMENTS.
03:20:23PM BECAUSE WE ARE GROWING FAST AND WITH HE NEED TO DO
03:20:31PM SOMETHING.
03:20:31PM NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION.
03:20:34PM WE NEED CONSIDERATION.
03:20:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:20:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:20:41PM I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US HAVE SEEN A LOVELY PEDESTRIAN
03:20:45PM CROSSWALK AND THEN SEEN SOMEBODY 20 FEET FORWARD JUST
03:20:48PM CROSSING THE ROAD.
03:20:49PM IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
03:20:50PM AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.
03:20:52PM IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE.
03:20:54PM DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.
03:20:55PM AND YOU TELL -- YOU YELL TO THE PERSON IN YOUR CAR -- WHY
03:20:59PM AREN'T YOU USING THE CROSSWALK, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE.
03:21:02PM AND THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
03:21:03PM IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AS LONG AS THERE IS A CROSSWALK,
03:21:07PM YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CROSS.
03:21:08PM UNLESS THERE IS A SIGNAL.
03:21:10PM IS THAT THE CORRECT --
03:21:13PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
03:21:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE REPEAT THAT STATEMENT AGAIN?
03:21:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WERE A PEDESTRIAN IN THE STATE OF
03:21:19PM FLORIDA, AS LONG AS THERE IS A CROSSWALK THAT IS SIGNALIZED
03:21:24PM -- OR THAT'S NOT SIGNALIZED, YOU CAN WALK WHEN JUMP WANT AND
03:21:27PM CARS TECHNICALLY HAVE TO STOP FOR YOU.
03:21:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: PEDESTRIANS HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND VEHICLES
03:21:33PM HAVE TO YIELD.
03:21:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONCE IT IS SIGNALIZED, PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO
03:21:38PM STOP "SUPPOSED TO" BEING THE IMPERATIVE PART OF THAT.
03:21:43PM I ACTUALLY ASKED A POLICE OFFICER DURING -- MAYBE IT WAS A
03:21:47PM GYMNASTICS -- ANYWAY, I WAS DOWN THERE AND I WATCHED A
03:21:52PM OFFICER HELPING PEOPLE ACROSS.
03:21:53PM I SAID, HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF PUTTING A LIGHT HERE.
03:21:56PM HE SAID THAT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
03:21:58PM I SAID WHY.
03:22:01PM HE SAID BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL WALK ANYWAY.
03:22:04PM PEOPLE WILL STILL WALK.
03:22:06PM I DON'T THINK IT IS A BAD IDEA TO EVEN CONSIDER PEDESTRIAN
03:22:09PM LIGHTING THAT PARTICULAR PART AND SEE HOW THAT GOES BUT THE
03:22:15PM PROBLEM IS THE WAY I SEE THE ACTUAL PROBLEM IS IF WE WANT TO
03:22:20PM BE ABLE TO CLOSE OFF PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WE HAVE TO CLOSE OFF
03:22:27PM CAR ACCESS TO THE ROUNDABOUT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
03:22:31PM THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.
03:22:32PM THE ONLY WAY.
03:22:33PM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RECONFIGURE THE CONVENTION CENTER TO
03:22:36PM HAVE THE DRIVE-UP ENTRANCE BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
03:22:39PM BUT I THINK THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS THAT.
03:22:41PM THE SHORT-TERM SOLUTION.
03:22:44PM I THINK WE STILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.
03:22:46PM THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION IF YOU WANT TO MOVE CARS FROM THAT
03:22:49PM AREA IS TO TAKE IT OUT OF THAT AREA WHICH IS A WASTE OF CARS
03:22:54PM WHEN IT IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PROMENADE TO BE ABLE TO USE.
03:22:58PM WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME ANYWAY.
03:22:59PM S WILL A CYCLIST.
03:23:01PM NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO BE CYCLE THAT PART OF THE RIVERWALK.
03:23:03PM IT IS VERY HARD THAT WILL BE MY PUSH FORWARD TO THE
03:23:09PM CONVENTION CENTER STAFF WHO HAPPENS TO BE LISTENING IN PARKS
03:23:13PM AND YOU ALL.
03:23:13PM IF THAT IS NOT COMING ALREADY TO CONSIDER WHAT ELSE TO DO
03:23:20PM HAVE A BETTER SPOT FOR CARS TO ENTER BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP
03:23:23PM US WITH PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IN THIS AREA.
03:23:25PM AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT HAVING -- HAVING THE
03:23:35PM OFFICERS THERE ALL THE TIME HAVE ALSO GOT TO BE NOT THE
03:23:40PM GREATEST ANSWER I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO LEAD THIS TODAY.
03:23:44PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON LEFT QUICKLY.
03:23:46PM AND -- AS FAR AS THE CONVENTION CENTER GOING TO THE OTHER
03:23:52PM SIDE.
03:23:52PM NOTHING WRONG WITH ADDING THE CONVENTION CENTER ON THE OTHER
03:23:56PM SIDE AND STILL DOORS HERE AND PEOPLE WILL TAKE THE PATH OF
03:23:59PM LEAST RESISTANCE EVERY SINGLE TIME.
03:24:00PM EASIER FOR THEM TO GO DOWN -- TO OPEN THE DOOR, GO DOWN THE
03:24:05PM STAIRS AND CROSS THE STREET, THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL DO.
03:24:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE IT FLORIDA FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
03:24:09PM A PROBLEMATIC CROSSWALK.
03:24:11PM PEOPLE WON'T WALK MIDBLOCK TO THE CROSSWALK.
03:24:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS HUMAN NATURE.
03:24:17PM JUST HUMAN NATURE.
03:24:20PM I SEE HOW YOU TRIED TO SOLVE OF THAT PUTTING THE FENCES.
03:24:24PM WE CAN'T CONTINUE THE FENCES BAA US THAT DRIVEWAY.
03:24:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEIGHBOR IS A SOLUTION.
03:24:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MIGHT BE THE AREA WE NEED TO LOOK AT NEXT.
03:24:32PM HOW TO MOVE THE CONVENTION CENTER CAR, BUS, WHATEVER TRAFFIC
03:24:39PM WHAT CAN WE DO THERE TO MOVE THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
03:24:42PM A BETTER SOLUTION THAT REGARD BECAUSE THAT IS WAY TOO
03:24:46PM VALUABLE OF A REAL ESTATE TO KEEP FOR CARS.
03:24:54PM >>Vic: CONVENTION CENTER AND MASTER PLAN.
03:24:57PM FEEDBACK WE PROVIDED RELATIVE TO THAT PLAZA.
03:25:00PM SO IF THERE IS A NEXT ITERATION TO REDEVELOP THE CONVENTION
03:25:07PM CENTER AND EXPAND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
03:25:09PM THAT WOULD BE A STRONG CONSIDERATION.
03:25:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, IT'S COMING.
03:25:14PM THE RENOVATION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER IS COMING.
03:25:16PM THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.
03:25:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS.
03:25:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:25:21PM SO THAT -- THAT IS A GOOD TO KNOW TO PUT IN THE BACK OF OUR
03:25:24PM HAT FOR THINKING OF THAT GOING FORWARD IS PEDESTRIAN.
03:25:31PM YEAH.
03:25:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU NEED BOTH LANES?
03:25:38PM >>VIK BHIDE: WHERE?
03:25:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU NEED BOTH?
03:25:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I AM SAYING.
03:25:42PM EVEN STARTING WITH A PEDESTRIAN LIGHT.
03:25:44PM SEEING IF THAT IS ACTUALLY -- I WAS -- I EVEN ASKED YOU IN
03:25:48PM OUR MEETING YESTERDAY IF THERE IS A WAY WE CAN JUST SIMPLY
03:25:53PM DO TEST LIGHTS TO SEE IF IT EVEN WORKS.
03:25:55PM AND THIS IS NOT REALLY FEASIBLE BECAUSE OF A MILLION REASONS
03:25:59PM ARE, BUT EVEN THE POSSIBLE TEST OF A PEDESTRIAN LIGHT AT --
03:26:04PM JUST AT THE DICK GRECO CROSSING TO SEE IF THAT COULD HELP.
03:26:09PM I THINK WOULD YOU STILL NEED AN OFFICER THERE FOR QUITE A
03:26:12PM TIME TO GET PEOPLE INTO THE MODE OF IT.
03:26:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF AN OFFICER WAS DISCIPLINED.
03:26:18PM WOULDN'T THAT REPLICATE LIGHT.
03:26:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE OFFICER IS THERE ALL THE TIME.
03:26:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DISCIPLINED PROCEDURE.
03:26:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GUESS SO.
03:26:27PM >>VIK BHIDE: WHAT I MEANT YESTERDAY IS IT'S -- WE KNOW HOW
03:26:31PM THE SIGNALS WILL WORK.
03:26:32PM IN EFFECT, WHAT WE ARE DOING BY SIGNALIZING WATER IS MOVING
03:26:37PM THE QUEUE WHERE -- IT IS NOT LIKE YOU GET OFF OF HARBOUR
03:26:40PM ISLAND AND YOU DON'T GET TO A POINT AND YOU STOP AND
03:26:43PM QUEUEING.
03:26:43PM REMOVING THE QUEUE UP -- 300 FEET UP TO THE BRIDGE SO THAT
03:26:48PM WE CAN ORGANIZE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY AND VEHICLE ACTIVITY
03:26:53PM BETTER BETWEEN THE BRIDGE AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
03:26:55PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING SO IN EFFECT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE
03:27:01PM DOING BECAUSE EVERYTHING COMING.
03:27:04PM ANY VEHICLE COMING OFF OF FRANKLIN BRIDGE AND HARBOUR ISLAND
03:27:09PM BRIDGE AND CONTINUE TO FRANKLIN STREET IS A RANDOM ARRIVAL
03:27:15PM UNTIL WE GET TO CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
03:27:17PM THE SIGNAL DOESN'T KNOW IF VEHICLES ARE COMING OR NOT.
03:27:21PM PEOPLE ARE QUEUEING UP THERE.
03:27:22PM WHAT WE ARE DOING IS EFFECTIVELY MOVING THAT QUEUE 300 FEET
03:27:25PM BACK UP TO THE HARBOUR ISLAND BRIDGE, BECAUSE THE ACTIVITY
03:27:29PM BETWEEN THE HARBOUR ISLAND BRIDGE AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
03:27:33PM PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE CONFLICTS SPECIFICALLY IS VERY
03:27:37PM ERRATIC.
03:27:38PM AND SO SIMULATING THAT IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND THE
03:27:44PM REST OF THE GRID WORKS IN A CERTAIN WAY.
03:27:46PM THIS IS JUST EXTENDING THAT GRID BACK.
03:27:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I LIED.
03:27:51PM I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
03:27:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
03:27:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE INVEST IN THE COST OF INSTALLING
03:27:57PM THIS.
03:27:57PM AND IN 12 MONTHS, WE FIND THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE IS JUST
03:28:03PM NOT DOING THE INTENDED -- WHAT IS I CAN TENDED OR
03:28:06PM PROBLEMATIC.
03:28:07PM HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO REVERSE COURSE?
03:28:15PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE CAN ALWAYS ADJUST SIGNAL TIMINGS.
03:28:19PM THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
03:28:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW MUCH MONEY IS INSTALLING THESE TWO
03:28:23PM LIGHTS COST?
03:28:24PM AND HOW MUCH -- AND HOW MUCH WILL IT TAKE TO UNINSTALL THEM?
03:28:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: INSTALLING THEM COSTS MUCH LESSER.
03:28:32PM BUT THE COST -- WHAT IS OUR COST RIGHT NOW FOR THE TWO
03:28:35PM LIGHTS?
03:28:36PM >> WE DON'T HAVE THE DESIGN YET, BUT I WOULD -- I WOULD
03:28:39PM SUSPECT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $500,000.
03:28:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
03:28:44PM THANK YOU.
03:28:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I -- I AM SO CHEAP.
03:28:51PM AND I HATE TO PAY FOR PARKING SO I WALK THROUGH HERE ALL THE
03:28:55PM TIME.
03:28:55PM ALL THE TIME.
03:28:56PM BECAUSE THE -- FIRST, I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR PARKING.
03:28:59PM SECOND, I NEED TO WALK.
03:29:00PM THIRD, I AM NOT ADDING TO -- YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE GOING TO
03:29:04PM PROMOTE A WALKABLE CITY.
03:29:05PM I WANT TO SET AN EXAMPLE OF IT.
03:29:07PM BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A -- HAVING A LIGHT THERE.
03:29:12PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE IT IS GOING TO MAKE.
03:29:15PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT THAT -- THAT ENTRANCE WAY
03:29:18PM TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, YOU KNOW.
03:29:19PM IT HAS -- IT HAS SOME PARKING FOR SOME CARS, BUT AT THE END
03:29:24PM OF THE DAY, CREATES MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN ANYTHING.
03:29:26PM WHAT ABOUT PUTTING JUST STOP SIGNS.
03:29:29PM WOULD THAT BE EASIER INSTEAD OF A WHOLE TRAFFIC SIGNAL
03:29:33PM SITUATION.
03:29:33PM AND IF THAT WILL HELP, A CHEAPER ALTERNATIVE, FOUR-WAY STOP.
03:29:43PM I DON'T KNOW, WE ARE A VICTIM OF OUR OWN SUCCESS.
03:29:47PM AND THAT BRIDGE OFF OF HARBOUR ISLAND.
03:29:51PM NARROW TWO LANES.
03:29:52PM A VERY TRICKY SPOTS.
03:29:54PM WHEN HARBOUR ISLAND WAS DEVELOPED, YOU HAD THE CONVENTION
03:29:58PM CENTER COMING IN AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING OFF THERE.
03:30:00PM AND YOU MIGHT HAVE CONVENTION CENTER TRAFFIC.
03:30:04PM AND SOME PEOPLE LIVING IN HARBOUR ISLAND AND WHAT NOT.
03:30:07PM AND SO BUSY IN WATER STREET.
03:30:09PM AND I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE OF ATTRACT LIGHT.
03:30:14PM AND HEARD FROM RESIDENTS IN HARBOUR ISLAND.
03:30:18PM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THIS MORNING.
03:30:20PM MORE HAVOC AND GRIDLOCK AND PERHAPS WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER
03:30:24PM ALTERNATIVES.
03:30:24PM I LIKE THE ROUNDABOUT IDEA.
03:30:27PM A MALL ROUNDABOUT.
03:30:28PM I LIKE PUTTING STOP SIGNS IF THAT WORKS.
03:30:30PM HAVING AN OFFICER THERE 24-7 OR AT PEAK TIME.
03:30:33PM THAT IS THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS, YOU KNOW.
03:30:36PM MAYBE IT WORKS.
03:30:36PM MAYBE IT DOESN'T.
03:30:37PM IT IS GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE TO HAVE A PERSON THERE.
03:30:40PM A LOT OF TIME.
03:30:41PM SO I KNOW WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY MOTIONED TO.
03:30:44PM BUT I WOULD AVOID PUTTING A STREET LIGHT THERE.
03:30:50PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:30:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN TELL YOU ONE ITEM THAT YOU SPOKE
03:30:56PM ABOUT THAT MAKES SENSE, ADDITIONAL PARK WHERE YOU PUT A
03:30:59PM PARKING AREA.
03:31:00PM THAT TAKES SOME TRAFFIC OUT.
03:31:02PM AND I DON'T KNOW.
03:31:02PM AND I AM NOT AN ENGINEERING AND I DON'T WANT TO BE ONE.
03:31:05PM BUT WHERE THE PARKING GARAGE IS AT JUST ON THE NORTH PART OF
03:31:10PM THE -- OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
03:31:12PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN BUILD BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT COMING
03:31:16PM DOWN.
03:31:17PM COUPLE MORE TWO OR THREE DECKS HIGHER AND TAKE A LOT OF CARS
03:31:20PM OUT AT THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT DON'T HAVE TO MOVE.
03:31:23PM AND I THINK PARKING IS THE MAIN THING.
03:31:29PM AND WITH THE EVENT AND YOU KNOW WHERE AND THEY ARE
03:31:33PM SUCCESSFUL.
03:31:35PM AND THAT CREATES AN ENORMOUS.
03:31:38PM I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ALL THE PARKING IN DOWNTOWN IS TAKEN BY
03:31:41PM THAT.
03:31:41PM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER INCLUDING THE CITY PARKING LOT.
03:31:45PM AND HAVE GOT TO BE SOMETHING TO BE DONE, EITHER THEY HAVE TO
03:31:52PM TAKE THE TROLLEY AND MOVE FROM YBOR CITY.
03:31:58PM AND SOMETHING DONE TO GET IT.
03:31:59PM BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS, REAL DANGEROUS.
03:32:02PM AND I DON'T BELIEVE SO ANYWAY.
03:32:07PM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH.
03:32:10PM SUCCESS HAS CAUSED OUR PROBLEM.
03:32:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:32:16PM HAVE A WONDERFUL AFTERNOON.
03:32:17PM ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 62.
03:32:20PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO SAY MY NAME AGAIN
03:32:23PM FOR THE RECORD, BUT BRANDON CAMPBELL FROM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
03:32:28PM I HAVE SOME MAPS TO DISTRIBUTE.
03:32:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS VAN LOAN, HERE FOR 55 AND 56,
03:32:39PM BECAUSE WE GOT RID OF -- NOT GOT RID OF BUT -- YES, SIR, GO
03:32:44PM AHEAD.
03:32:44PM WE HAVE ITEM 63 AND THEN A LOT OF NEW BUSINESS.
03:32:52PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I WILL GO QUICKLY.
03:32:55PM I -- I DISTRIBUTED A MAP WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT RIGHT-OF-WAY
03:32:58PM AND -- AND PARCELS AND EASEMENTS AS WELL.
03:33:02PM THAT ARE RELATED TO THE -- TO THE WEST RIVER WALK AND THE --
03:33:07PM AND THE WEST RIVER MULTIMODAL NETWORK PROJECTS THAT IS
03:33:12PM BUILDING MOST OF THAT.
03:33:12PM BUT BEFORE I ADDRESS THOSE SPECIFICALLY, I DID WANT TO
03:33:16PM SHARE.
03:33:16PM I DID NOT -- I DID NOT DISTRIBUTE THIS ONE, BUT JUST -- JUST
03:33:20PM AS A REMINDER, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS MAP SEVERAL
03:33:24PM TIMES.
03:33:24PM BUT THERE ARE SOME SEGMENTS ALONG THE RIVERWALK ITSELF THAT
03:33:29PM ARE NOT PART OF THE BUILD PROJECT THAT WAS RECENTLY
03:33:36PM APPROVED.
03:33:36PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN UNDERSTOOD DISTINCTION
03:33:40PM BETWEEN THOSE THAT ARE PART OF THE BUILD PROJECT AND THOSE
03:33:43PM WHO AREN'T.
03:33:44PM ALTHOUGH THEY ARE ON THE MAP THAT DID REVIEW TO YOU ALL.
03:33:49PM 44 DIFFERENT PARCELS.
03:33:53PM FOR SEGMENTS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT ARE ADDRESSED WITH THIS.
03:33:56PM MOST OF THEM ARE FINISHED IN TERMS OF ANY SORT OF NEXT.
03:34:02PM I WANT TO POINT OUT THE GAP.
03:34:06PM 5A AND 5B.
03:34:08PM SIX AND SEVEN.
03:34:09PM EACH OF THOSE IS IN SOME STAGE OF MODIFICATION OR NEXT
03:34:16PM BETWEEN OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND THE ATTORNEYS OF THE
03:34:20PM RESPECTIVE PROPERTY OWNER THERE IS.
03:34:22PM AND THAT, AGAIN, IS A FUNCTION OF THEM NOT BEING PART OF
03:34:25PM THE FIELD FUNDED PROJECT.
03:34:27PM SO -- SO -- WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF THE -- OF
03:34:32PM THOSE ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS.
03:34:34PM I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR INTERIM
03:34:38PM CONNECTIONS WITHIN THOSE SHOULD THE SEPARATELY PURSUED
03:34:43PM SEGMENTS TIMELINE NOT COMPLETELY MATCH UP WITH THE BUILD
03:34:47PM PROJECT.
03:34:47PM AND THAT IS ILLUSTRATED PRETTY AS WELL OF THE EXISTING
03:34:56PM CONFIGURATION OF THE ARRIBELLA PROPERTY, 5-A AND 5-B.
03:35:00PM A CONNECTION THAT WAS BUILT TO THAT RIVER WALK SEGMENT FROM
03:35:03PM THE CLEVELAND STREET CORRIDOR.
03:35:06PM SO WHETHER WE END UP NEEDING TO CONNECT IN THOSE SORTS OF
03:35:12PM WAYS TO MAINTAIN CONTINUITY BOTH BEFORE FOR AN INTERIM
03:35:18PM CONFIGURATION REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
03:35:20PM DID YOU HAVE.
03:35:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:35:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN LAYMAN'S TERMS?
03:35:27PM >> SO BECAUSE THE -- BECAUSE THOSE THREE SEGMENTS ARE NOT
03:35:32PM BEING PURSUED BY OUR CONTRACTOR, BY HAS KELL THE TIMELINE IS
03:35:37PM PARALLEL BUT SEPARATE.
03:35:39PM AND SIX MONTHS.
03:35:49PM THE COMPLETION OF THE RELATED SEGMENT WHICH IS SEVEN TO BE
03:35:55PM COMPLETED AFTER OUR BUILD PROJECT.
03:35:57PM WE WILL CONNECT VIA KELLER AVENUE OR PARKER STREET OR -- AS
03:36:02PM MORE OR LESS A M.O.T. SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE WHEN THE
03:36:06PM CONVENTION CENTER RENOVATION WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE
03:36:11PM SIGNED FOR IT AROUND -- ON CHANNELSIDE AND DOWN FRANKLIN
03:36:15PM STREET.
03:36:15PM JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THOSE ARE SEPARATE
03:36:19PM PURSUITS.
03:36:20PM AND SIMILAR TO THE RIVER WALK ITSELF.
03:36:24PM AS FAR AS THE PARCEL GOES THAT ARE PART OF THE BUILD
03:36:28PM PROJECT.
03:36:29PM PARCEL NUMBER 8 WHICH IS PLANT PARK, AS WELL AS 9 A, B,
03:36:44PM AND C, THE EASEMENT ACROSS THE NEW TAMPA PROPERTY.
03:36:47PM THOSE ARE CURRENTLY -- RIGHT NOW THE GROUND LEASE FOR PLANT
03:36:54PM PARK COMES BEFORE YOU NEXT WEEK.
03:36:55PM I KNOW THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION AMONG COUNCIL WHAT THE
03:37:01PM HOURLY CONVICTIONS HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE MOVING FORWARD.
03:37:03PM PREVIOUSLY -- THE PREVIOUSLY HAD A DUSK TO DAWN RESTRICTION
03:37:08PM THERE AND THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENTS TO A MIDNIGHT TO 5 A.M.
03:37:16PM RESTRICTION AND I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL CLENDENIN ASKED NEW
03:37:19PM TAMPA ABOUT THE PARTICULAR EVENTS THAT MIGHT ALLOW FOR
03:37:25PM ACCESS DURING THOSE HOURS.
03:37:26PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU --
03:37:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DID HAVE A VERY INTENSE CONVERSATION --
03:37:32PM IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
03:37:34PM SO, YEAH, THERE IS A -- IT WILL BE MIDNIGHT TO 5 A.M.
03:37:48PM AND WE WOULD ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THE ENTIRE
03:37:53PM PORTION OF THE RIVER WALK LIKE SUPER BOWL COMES TO TOWN.
03:37:57PM AND LATE ON A TIME ZONE.
03:38:01PM SPECIAL EVENTS.
03:38:02PM SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT CAVEAT IN THERE AS WELL.
03:38:05PM I BELIEVE THAT LEGAL AND YOU TOUCHED.
03:38:10PM THAT THEY ARE DISCUSSING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS
03:38:13PM INCORPORATED INTO THE AGREEMENT.
03:38:15PM >> REBECCA FROM LEGAL IS DISCUSSING.
03:38:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
03:38:20PM IT SEEMS TO BE REASONABLE -- A REASONABLE APPROACH TO THE
03:38:25PM PROPERTY.
03:38:25PM >> THE GROUND LEASE THAT WILL COME BEFORE IS YOU PARCEL 8.
03:38:29PM PARCELS -- I GUESS I SHOULD SAY 9-A AND B.
03:38:34PM THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR EXECUTION BY YOU ALL.
03:38:37PM AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE WAITING FOR THE REMAINDER OF
03:38:41PM DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO NEW TAMPA TO GET THAT SIGNED OVER
03:38:47PM BACK OVER TO US ALSO MOVING NORTH, PARCEL -- EASEMENT 10-A
03:38:54PM IS IN FRONT OF TAMPA PREP.
03:38:56PM YOU WILL NOTE THAT IT IS HASHED OUT BECAUSE AT ONE POINT IT
03:38:59PM WAS AN HOURLY RESTRICTION.
03:39:01PM THAT IS NO LONGER IN PLACE.
03:39:04PM WHAT WE HAVE RECENTLY INSTALLED A FENCE ALONG THE PROPERTY.
03:39:07PM YOU WILL SEE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT EASEMENT COME BEFORE YOU
03:39:10PM IN THE COMING DAYS.
03:39:12PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS ON YOUR AGENDA YET, BUT NO PART OF
03:39:15PM THAT WILL ADDRESS HOURLY RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE THOSE NO
03:39:18PM LONGER IN PLACE.
03:39:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNLESS THE CITY WANTS TO.
03:39:23PM >> TRUE, FAIR ENOUGH.
03:39:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
03:39:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I AM SORRY.
03:39:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION?
03:39:33PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: ONE LAST NOTE, PROPERTIES ALONG THE BLAKE HIGH
03:39:36PM SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL FRONTAGE SHADED OUT BUT THOSE RESTRICTIONS
03:39:40PM ARE NO LONGER IN PLACE ANYWAY.
03:39:41PM I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
03:39:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SHOULD KNOW THIS ANSWER BECAUSE WE HAVE
03:39:46PM BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS SO MANY TIMES.
03:39:47PM I GET ASKED ABOUT THIS RIVERWALK CONSTANTLY AND THE STAGING
03:39:52PM AND THE FIRST ELEMENTS OF CONSTRUCTION WHAT IS COMING IN
03:39:55PM FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, AND FOURTH AND KIND OF A TIMELINE.
03:39:57PM VIK --
03:40:00PM >> OUR PROJECT MANAGER MAY BE SPEAKING TO THE ORDER OF
03:40:03PM CONSTRUCTION THAT IS ANTICIPATED.
03:40:05PM I KNOW WE ARE AT 60% DESIGN SUBMITTALS BUT I DON'T THINK IF
03:40:09PM PHASING HAS BEEN COMPLETELY.
03:40:14PM THE ON LAND -- NINA MABALO.
03:40:18PM THE WEST RIVERWALK MANAGER FOR THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
03:40:23PM THE ON LAND SEGMENTS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED FIRST.
03:40:27PM PROBABLY THE PLATT STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY, ROME AVENUE,
03:40:30PM COLUMBUS DRIVE, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE PERMITTING FOR --
03:40:34PM WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FOR THE RIVER WALK IT.
03:40:38PM >> AND SELF, THE TWO UNDERPASS PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES AS PLATT
03:40:43PM AND BROREIN.
03:40:46PM THAT PERMIT WILL TAKE LONGER.
03:40:48PM THIS IS A DESIGN BUILD PROJECT.
03:40:50PM WE ARE RESTRICTED BY THE LIFE OF THE FUNDING WHICH EXPIRES
03:40:53PM IN 2027 SO THEY WILL BE DESIGNING AND BUILDING THE MULTIPLE
03:41:01PM SECTIONS AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
03:41:03PM I BROUGHT THE SCHEDULE WITH ME TODAY.
03:41:06PM >> WHAT WILL ANTICIPATE THROUGH '27 IS THE RIDGEWOOD,
03:41:11PM COLUMBUS, ROME, AND IS PLATT PART OF THIS PROBABLY.
03:41:16PM >> IT IS.
03:41:16PM >> PART OF THE FUNDED PROJECT.
03:41:18PM >> PLATT STREET FROM ROME TO BAYSHORE.
03:41:22PM IT IS VIRTUALLY FIVE MILES AND WILL BE COMPLETE IN EARLY
03:41:26PM 2027.
03:41:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
03:41:28PM VERY AGGRESSIVE AND VERY NICE.
03:41:29PM I LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
03:41:30PM ONE OTHER QUESTION.
03:41:31PM VIK, YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS PLACEMAKING AND ENSURE
03:41:36PM THAT THERE IS SOME TYPE OF ABILITY TO HAVE CONCESSIONS OR
03:41:42PM TRAIL -- LIKE THE STRAZ.
03:41:44PM SOMETHING LOOK THAT SO PEOPLE WITH HAVE A PLACE.
03:41:51PM AND PERIODICALLY ALONG THE WAY WHEN WE HAVE FOOD DESERTS.
03:41:56PM REST ROOM FACILITIES.
03:41:58PM ANY ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THAT?
03:41:59PM >>VIK BHIDE: NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT, THERE ARE AREN'T.
03:42:02PM WITH THE CONCESSIONS WE WILL ALSO DISCUSS REST ROOMS WITH
03:42:05PM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
03:42:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY IN THE DESIGN -- IN THIS DESIGN
03:42:12PM ELEMENT OF PLACE MAKING FOR CONCESSIONS AT ALL?
03:42:15PM >>VIK BHIDE: THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF PLACEMAKING IN CERTAIN
03:42:20PM PARTS ALONG THE RIVERWALK TO THE EXTENT YOU CAN CALL IT
03:42:24PM PLACEMAKING.
03:42:25PM THERE ARE OVERLOOKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
03:42:28PM LIVING SHORELINES.
03:42:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM AS THEY ARE
03:42:35PM DESIGN THIS.
03:42:36PM SOMETHING RESERVED A PERIODICALLY.
03:42:40PM THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT.
03:42:42PM NOT GET ANYTHING EASIER THAN RIGHT NOW.
03:42:44PM WHEN YOU FIND THREE OR FOUR PLACE ALONG THIS ROUTE THAT
03:42:49PM MAYBE YOU CAN BUMP OUT AND HAVE A PLACE SOME TIME IN THE
03:42:52PM FUTURE THAT WE CAN PLUG SOMETHING IN WHEN WE NEEDED TO.
03:42:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:42:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:42:58PM I WAS TOLD THERE WOULD BE NO OUTLOOKS BECAUSE WE WOULD
03:43:02PM AFFORD THEM.
03:43:03PM OVERLOOKS.
03:43:04PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO THE OVERLOOKS THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE
03:43:10PM SOME OF THE RENDERING WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE.
03:43:13PM AS PART OF THE RIVER WALK ITSELF, THERE ARE SECTIONS THAT
03:43:17PM ARE WIDER PART THERE ARE NOT AS WIDE BUT IN TERMS OF THE
03:43:23PM PLACEMAKING PIECE OF IT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE
03:43:26PM TO PARTNER WITH PARKS ON AND SPEAK TO THE CONCESSIONS AND
03:43:31PM THERE ARE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITY.
03:43:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T HAVE A CONCESSION --
03:43:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM -- HE CALLED MY NAME.
03:43:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID HE?
03:43:42PM GO AHEAD.
03:43:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GUIDO CALLED MY NAME -- SORRY, CHAIRMAN
03:43:47PM MANISCALCO CALLED MY NAME.
03:43:48PM ADDITIONALLY, I AM HOPING -- I AM -- I AM GOING TO LAY IT
03:43:53PM DOWN RIGHT NOW AND SAY I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE
03:43:56PM -- I KNOW THAT WE HAVE WET ZONED THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
03:43:59PM RIVER.
03:43:59PM I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE ASIDE OF WET ZONE
03:44:04PM MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS AND THE PRIVATE ENTITIES.
03:44:07PM NOT A LOT OF CONSUMER AREAS ALONG HERE.
03:44:12PM SO I JUST WANT TO YOU CONSIDER -- KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE
03:44:16PM I WILL NOT SUPPORT ALCOHOLIC ZONING ON THE RIVER WALK ON
03:44:20PM THIS SIDE.
03:44:21PM AS FAR AS THE PLATT STREET AND THE ROME.
03:44:24PM ARE THESE SEPARATED, DIVIDED BIKE LANES?
03:44:29PM BECAUSE IF THEY ARE JUST --
03:44:34PM >> PEDESTRIAN UNDERPASS BRIDGES ARE 15 FEET WIDE BETWEEN THE
03:44:37PM RAILINGS AND FOR PEDESTRIAN BICYCLISTS ONLY.
03:44:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TALKING ABOUT THE STREETS THEMSELVES.
03:44:42PM PLATT AND ROME.
03:44:44PM PROTECTED BIKE LANES, CORRECT?
03:44:48PM >> PLATT STREET, CORRECT.
03:44:49PM WHEREBY POSSIBLE.
03:44:50PM SMALL SEGMENTS WHERE THERE WON'T BE RAISED SEPARATORS.
03:44:55PM >>VIK BHIDE: ON ROME, THAT IS, IS.
03:44:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ROME IS THE MOST CANING -- DANGEROUS.
03:45:04PM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN MAKE THAT ARE NOT SAFE.
03:45:08PM >>VIK BHIDE: NOT SHARE-Os.
03:45:12PM BIKE LANES.
03:45:13PM MEDIAN SEPARATED OR NOT OR SEPARATED SOME OTHER WAY, WE
03:45:20PM DON'T KNOW.
03:45:21PM PRIMARILY ON ROME.
03:45:22PM PLATT STREET HAS THE ROOM AND ABILITY TO REDESIGN FOR A
03:45:25PM SEPARATE --
03:45:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM FINE WITH THAT. AGAIN, IF YOU ARE SAYING
03:45:29PM THIS IS A FAMILY FRIENDLY RIVERWALK, THEN YOU NEED TO
03:45:36PM ABSOLUTELY -- THE WAIVE I LIKE TO VISUALIZE IT AND THE WAY I
03:45:40PM WOULD EXPECT TO YOU VISUALIZE IT, A THREE-YEAR-OLD WALKING
03:45:44PM IN THE BIKE LANE EXAMINE A THREE-YEAR-OLD WALK IN THE BIKE
03:45:47PM LANE.
03:45:47PM WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SCREAM AND RUN TO THE CHILD AND
03:45:50PM SAY, OH, IT'S OKAY.
03:45:52PM >> THERE ARE OFF-ROAD WIDE SIDEWALKS FOR PEDESTRIANS.
03:45:56PM ONE SMALL AREA ON PLATT STREET NEAR THE RAILROAD TRACKS
03:46:03PM WHERE THE BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS WILL SHARE.
03:46:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHARING IS FINE.
03:46:07PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF NO PLACE WE ARE CONSIDERING THIS A
03:46:11PM RIVER WALK THAT WE SIMPLY HAVE A LINE FOR A CYCLIST.
03:46:14PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS AS FAMILY FRIENDLY -- AS THE
03:46:18PM OTHER SIDE OF RIVER.
03:46:19PM AND THIS IS -- I AM THRILLED THAT PLATT STREET WILL HAVE IT
03:46:26PM SEPARATE.
03:46:27PM I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PERSONALLY SEE WHEN YOU ARE THE DESIGN
03:46:30PM DONE FOR ROME I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS.
03:46:32PM MY OTHER CURIOSITY HOW TO CROSS COLUMBUS.
03:46:36PM I AM FASCINATED BY THIS.
03:46:38PM THIS IS A REALLY TIGHT BRIDGE AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW YOU
03:46:42PM WILL DO THAT SAFELY FOR A CYCLIST FAMILY.
03:46:44PM >> SOUTH SIDE OF THE COLUMBUS BRIDGE, THERE WILL BE A SHARED
03:46:49PM PIKE AND PED FACILITY AND EXISTING PEDESTRIAN PATH IS GOING
03:46:53PM TO REMAIN THERE ALONG THE RAILING ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
03:46:56PM THERE WILL BE LANE REDUCTION WITH ONE LANE EASTBOUND, ONE
03:47:00PM LANE WESTBOUND OVER THE BRIDGE.
03:47:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:47:03PM THAT WILL SOLVE THAT.
03:47:04PM SIMILAR TO HOW IS DONE.
03:47:05PM >> YEAH.
03:47:06PM >>VIK BHIDE: SEPARATELY AS PART OF A SEPARATE BUT CONCURRENT
03:47:11PM EFFORT, WE WILL BE SIGNALIZING ROME AND COLUMBUS.
03:47:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION.
03:47:17PM SO THANK YOU.
03:47:18PM THAT ANSWERS SEVERAL OF MY QUESTIONS.
03:47:20PM BUT STILL WHEN YOU ARE DONE WITH THE ROME DESIGN.
03:47:23PM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT WHEN YOU SEND ME AN E-MAIL.
03:47:26PM BECAUSE ROME IS SCARY.
03:47:29PM I HAVE RODE IT AS A CYCLIST DURING COVID.
03:47:33PM I WOULDN'T DO IT NOW.
03:47:34PM BICYCLISTS WILL BE PROTECTED EVERYWHERE WHERE WE HAVE
03:47:38PM ADEQUATE WIDTH.
03:47:40PM WE ARE PROHIBITED ON THE FEDERAL PROJECT FROM OBTAINING
03:47:45PM ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY IF IT IS NOT INCLUDED.
03:47:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:47:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT TO BE CLEAR.
03:47:49PM I WASN'T TALKING OF WET ZONING.
03:47:51PM A PLACE TO BUY A COKE OR A PIECE PIZZA.
03:47:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE
03:47:59PM LOCATION.
03:47:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE WITH THAT BUT CAN'T FIND A PLACES
03:48:02PM TO DRINK OR HAVE A PIECE OF PIZZA.
03:48:04PM DEALING WITH HUMAN BEINGS.
03:48:06PM HUMAN BEINGS HAVE NEEDS.
03:48:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:48:09PM THE LAST ITEM OF THE DAY.
03:48:11PM MR. MULKEY IS GOING TO TELL US, WHY TREES WERE CUT.
03:48:15PM WHO ORDER IT.
03:48:16PM WHY THEY ORDER IT.
03:48:17PM AND HOW MUCH TREE CUTTING WAS DONE.
03:48:18PM >>TONY MULKEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
03:48:24PM TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION.
03:48:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW YOU GAVE A WRITTEN REPORT BUT
03:48:32PM REQUESTED THAT YOU BE HERE IN PERSON.
03:48:35PM >>TONY MULKEY: GLAD TO DO SO.
03:48:36PM I WANT TO COME IN AND VERY RESPOND TO THE MOTION.
03:48:38PM I AM NOT SURE WE NECESSARILY CAPTURED ALL THE ACTIVITIES
03:48:44PM OBSERVED AND REPORTED.
03:48:44PM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE FROM THE URBAN FORESTRY DIVISION, THE
03:48:48PM ACTIVITIES HAPPENING THROUGH THERE ARE ALL WORK ORDER
03:48:50PM GENERATED AFTER AN FINANCIAL.
03:48:52PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT DIRECTLY OF HANGING LIMBS, OF
03:48:59PM TREES THAT ARE FAILING.
03:49:00PM WE DO NOT CUT DOWN HEALTHY TREES.
03:49:02PM AND SOME PEOPLE ARE DISAPPOINTED BY THAT, BUT WE DO NOT CUT
03:49:05PM DOWN HEALTHY TREE OF.
03:49:07PM PROVIDED INFORMATION WHAT WORK EVER WORK HAS BEEN
03:49:10PM ACCOMPLISHED AND WHAT WORK HAS BEEN SCHEDULED THROUGH THE
03:49:12PM WORK ORDERS BOTH WITH HURRICANE RESPONSE AS WELL AS OUR
03:49:17PM TRADITIONAL SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE.
03:49:19PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED. . .
03:49:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
03:49:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WEST COMPANY JUST TWINE LINCOLN AND
03:49:30PM SPRUCE, THERE IS AGREE THAT LIKELY NO ONE WAS THERE WHEN IT
03:49:34PM FELL, BUT IT HAD TO BE -- AND THE BRANCHES WHEN THEY FELL,
03:49:39PM THEY BROKE OFF.
03:49:39PM AND YOU CAN SEE INSIDE.
03:49:41PM STILL THERE, BY THE WAY, THE BRANCHES HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF.
03:49:45PM SIX FEET TALL.
03:49:48PM THE ONLY THING HOLDING UP IS THE AIR BECAUSE THE WHOLE
03:49:52PM INSIDE OF THE TREE WAS GONE.
03:49:53PM IT WAS ROTTED OUT INSIDE.
03:49:54PM NOBODY KNEW THAT.
03:49:55PM BUT MAYBE THERE IS A WAY TO FIND OUT AND HAVE PEOPLE CHECK
03:49:59PM THEM ON SPECIALTY PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS THAT TREES ARE
03:50:04PM SOLID INSIDE.
03:50:05PM BECAUSE IF NOT, I DON'T WANT TO FACE WHAT IS COMING.
03:50:09PM >>TONY MULKEY: A FAIR REQUEST.
03:50:10PM WE TRIED TO LOOK AT IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
03:50:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHECK IT OUT.
03:50:14PM BECAUSE I BELIEVE FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM THERE.
03:50:16PM THE ONLY ONE STAND SOMETHING THE BIG TRUNK OF THE BIG ONE
03:50:20PM THAT FELL THAT WAS COMPLETELY ATE UP INSIDE.
03:50:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:50:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:50:26PM I THINK ANY OF THE TREES SLIGHTLY HOLLOW, MILTON TOOK CARE
03:50:30PM OF THOSE.
03:50:31PM BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
03:50:32PM THAT WAS -- WE DID GET A LOT OF UP THAT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF
03:50:37PM IN TERMS OF TREE COMES DOWN.
03:50:39PM I ASKED MR. MULKEY THIS DURING MY PREP MEETING AND I WILL DO
03:50:42PM IT AGAIN IN PUBLIC.
03:50:43PM MAKING SURE THAT -- MAKING SURE THE NUMBERS IN THE REPORT OF
03:50:49PM HOW MANY TREE CALLS YOU GET AND ADD ON WHAT HAPPENED DURING
03:50:53PM MILTON.
03:50:54PM AND SO I ASKED YOU, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE IN YOUR
03:50:58PM DEPARTMENT AND ENOUGH RESOURCES TO HANDLE THE TREE TRIMMING.
03:51:02PM YOU GAVE A VERY DIPLOMATIC ANSWER, BUT I AM GOING TO LET YOU
03:51:07PM TRY AGAIN.
03:51:07PM >>TONY MULKEY: ALL RIGHT, SO I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT
03:51:10PM DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WERE AWARDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING
03:51:13PM FOR EQUIPMENT AND STAFFING FOR TREE TRIMMING.
03:51:15PM THAT MOVES US TOWARD OUR GOAL OF BEING A LITTLE MORE
03:51:18PM PROACTIVE IN OUR SERVICES.
03:51:19PM WE SUPPLEMENT OUR INHOUSE SERVICES FOR THE SCALE OF THE
03:51:23PM PROJECT, LIKE -- WE DON'T HAVE CRANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
03:51:26PM OUT OUR TREE CONTRACTORS HAVE EASIER ACCESS.
03:51:30PM SO CONTRACTS WITH THREE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS DURING THE
03:51:37PM STORM, THAT GOES UP.
03:51:38PM WE SUPPLEMENT WHAT OUR CAPACITY IS, AND GROW OUR CAPACITY
03:51:42PM THIS YEAR.
03:51:43PM WE ARE WORKING ON IT AND APPROVED AND STILL TRYING TO
03:51:46PM RECRUIT AND PROCURE THAT EQUIPMENT.
03:51:48PM WE ARE WORKING TOWARD GROWING.
03:51:50PM WE DO REALIZE WE ARE REACTIVE IN A LOT OF OUR RESPONSE NOW.
03:51:56PM WE DO HAVE SOME VISION OF BEING MORE PROACTIVE AND BEING
03:52:00PM ABLE TO SERVE THE URBAN TREE CANOPY A LITTLE MORE
03:52:04PM EFFECTIVELY.
03:52:04PM AND WE HAVE TAKEN A STEP.
03:52:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT.
03:52:07PM OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE IS REACTIVE RIGHT NOW.
03:52:10PM MILTON -- -- NO OTHER WAY TO BE.
03:52:13PM NOW THAT WE ARE COMING OUT OF IT, WE WANT TO COME OUT OF IT.
03:52:18PM ONE AREA IS TREES.
03:52:20PM WITH THE ADDITION YOU HAVE GOTTEN HAD YOU FAR ARE YOU
03:52:24PM PERCENTAGE WISE.
03:52:24PM 30% WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE EVENTUALLY?
03:52:28PM 50% WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE EVENTUALLY?
03:52:31PM >> PART OF THAT WILL BE DETERMINED AFTER WE RECRUIT THE
03:52:35PM POSITIONS.
03:52:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SAY YOU HAVE THEM.
03:52:38PM >>TONY MULKEY: ANTICIPATE 30% TO 40% CLOSER TO WHERE WE WANT
03:52:41PM TO BE.
03:52:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS THIS NEXT BUDGET COMING UP, WE NEED TO
03:52:45PM CONSIDER MORE.
03:52:46PM BASICALLY I WOULD LIKE TO FILE THAT AWAY.
03:52:49PM I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT TREES.
03:52:52PM IF THEY WANT TO SHOW THAT ENERGY AND PASSION TOWARD TREES,
03:52:57PM THAT SAN AREA WHERE THEY CAN ADVOCATE.
03:53:00PM >>TONY MULKEY: WE HAVE AN INTERNAL STRATEGIC PLAN TO FOLLOW
03:53:05PM AND TICK OFF SOME OF THE GOALS.
03:53:07PM AND THIS BRINGS US CLOSER.
03:53:08PM WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS.
03:53:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL, THANK YOU.
03:53:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MULKEY.
03:53:15PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA.
03:53:16PM WE WILL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
03:53:17PM PASS IT OFF TO THE VICE-CHAIR.
03:53:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRO TEM.
03:53:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHAIR PRO TEM.
03:53:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIR PRO TEM RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN
03:53:32PM MANISCALCO.
03:53:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE ACTIVATES.
03:53:35PM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION -- MAKE A MOTION TO
03:53:38PM PRESENT A COMMENDATION OFF-SITE TO THE STATE ATTORNEY'S
03:53:41PM OFFICE RECOGNIZING NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS WEEK APRIL
03:53:46PM 6-12 OF THIS YEAR.
03:53:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:53:50PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:53:51PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:53:52PM OPPOSED .EYES HAVE IT.
03:53:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
03:53:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT A COMMENDATION OFF-SITE TO THE CITY
03:53:58PM OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE ON THEIR 37th ANNIVERSARY
03:54:01PM ON FEBRUARY 17, 2025 AT THE TAMPA THEATRE.
03:54:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:54:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:54:07PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:54:09PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:54:10PM OPPOSED.
03:54:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
03:54:12PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:54:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE ONE, MOTION OF COMMENDATION FOR
03:54:17PM RON ROTELLA, A DEVELOPMENT OFFICIAL OF SIX TAMPA MAYORS
03:54:23PM BEFORE MAYOR GRECO HIRED HIM TO BE THE DEVELOPMENT
03:54:25PM COORDINATOR IN 1995.
03:54:27PM RON SERVED AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO THE WEST SHORE ALLIANCE
03:54:30PM FOR MANY YEARS.
03:54:30PM WE REQUEST THAT SAID COMMENDATION AT CITY COUNCIL MARCH 27,
03:54:36PM 2025 UNDER CEREMONIES.
03:54:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:54:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:54:41PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:54:43PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:54:43PM HOW IS HE DOING, SIR?
03:54:47PM YEAH?
03:54:48PM HE IS A LEGENDARY GUY.
03:54:50PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:54:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE REALLY IS.
03:54:55PM THAT'S IT.
03:54:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, YES, SIR.
03:54:58PM YES, MA'AM?
03:55:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MADE A MOTION JANUARY 15.
03:55:02PM AND THIS IS THE MOTION.
03:55:03PM I MOVED TO HAVE LEGAL AMEND SECTION 15-104 CODE TO ADD THE
03:55:08PM N. FRANKLIN STREET CORRIDOR TO THE EXISTING CODE, BOUNDARIES
03:55:11PM OR EAST K STREET TO THE SOUTH.
03:55:13PM NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE TO THE EAST.
03:55:14PM EAST OAK TO THE NORTH AND NORTH TAMPA STREET TO THE WEST.
03:55:17PM STAFF HAS REQUESTED MORE TIME.
03:55:19PM SO I AM CHANGING THE DATE FOR FIRST -- FOR FIRST READING
03:55:22PM FROM -- FROM FEBRUARY 6, 2025 TO FEBRUARY 20, 2025.
03:55:27PM AND I HAVE -- I HAVE SPOKEN TO FOLKS AT TAMPA HEIGHTS THAT
03:55:31PM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
03:55:32PM THEY KNOW THIS CHANGE IS COMING.
03:55:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:55:36PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:55:38PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE OR OPPOSED?
03:55:41PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:55:42PM MR. SHELBY?
03:55:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A REMINDER TO THE COUNCIL AND WILL PASS IT
03:55:45PM ALONG TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HERE AND THERE ARE FOUR
03:55:49PM COUNCIL MEETINGS NEXT WEEK.
03:55:51PM YOU HAVE ASPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP TUESDAY AT 9:00.
03:55:56PM YOU HAVE A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT TO CONSIDER, FLORIDA STATUTE
03:56:02PM 70.51 AT 5:01 P.M., AND YOU HAVE YOUR REGULAR MEETINGS ON TH
03:56:08PM 28th ON THAT THURSDAY, A -- EXCUSE ME THAT WILL BE THE 30th,
03:56:14PM EXCUSE ME.
03:56:14PM SPECIAL CALLS ON THE 28th.
03:56:16PM REGULAR WORKSHOP ON THE 30th AT 9 A.M.
03:56:20PM THEN YOU HAVE THE NIGHT MEETING, THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
03:56:23PM NIGHT MEETING AND ALSO LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH THE UNIVERSITY
03:56:26PM OF TAMPA AT 5:31.
03:56:28PM JUST A REMINDER TO YOU AND TO THE PUBLIC.
03:56:30PM THANK YOU.
03:56:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION SO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
03:56:33PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:56:34PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:56:35PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:56:36PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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