TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOPS
THURSDAY, JANUARY 30, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:07:05AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL]
9:07:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:07:07AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP
9:07:10AM MEETING TO ORDER.
9:07:11AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR THE
9:07:13AM INVOCATION.
9:07:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, THIS MORNING I'M EXCITED TO HAVE PASTOR
9:07:18AM TUCKER JOHNSON HERE.
9:07:20AM I'M TOLD BY OUR FRIENDS THAT SHE HAS A CHILDHOOD NICKNAME
9:07:25AM WHICH I'M NOT ALLOWED TO USE BECAUSE THIS IS HER
9:07:28AM PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY.
9:07:28AM SHE IS A FORMER EDUCATOR WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS
9:07:31AM FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
9:07:32AM SHE HAS A TWIN SISTER WHO IS STILL TEACHING IN THE DISTRICT.
9:07:35AM SHE IS MARRIED TO RETIRED EDUCATOR COACH ADRIAN JOHNSON.
9:07:39AM SHE IS THE MOTHER OF SON ADRIAN JOHNSON II AND DAUGHTER
9:07:43AM ADRIA JOHNSON WHO ALSO TAUGHT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS
9:07:47AM SEVEN YEARS PRIOR TO MOVING TO HOUSTON, TEXAS.
9:07:50AM SHE IS RECOGNIZED FOR PROFESSIONALISM, LEADERSHIP,
9:07:53AM MOTIVATING AND EXCELLENT PRESENTATION STRATEGY.
9:07:55AM SHE IS A PASTOR AT CHRIST OF CALVARY COMMUNITY CHURCH IN
9:07:58AM WEST TAMPA WHERE HER DAD PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS BISHOP.
9:08:01AM SHE IS THE VISIONARY FOR MENTORS FOR MINISTRY, A YOUTH GROUP
9:08:05AM THAT IS KNOWN FOR GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:08:07AM AND SHE CURRENTLY SERVES AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA BAY
9:08:10AM JUNETEENTH COALITION.
9:08:12AM LET'S RISE FOR THE PRAYER AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:08:14AM THANK YOU.
9:08:15AM >> THANK YOU.
9:08:16AM I AM SO GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING.
9:08:21AM I AM GOING TO ASK THAT IF ALL HEARTS AND MINDS ARE CLEAR, WE
9:08:26AM ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE THRONE OF GRACE.
9:08:30AM PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS WITH ME.
9:08:32AM LET US PRAY.
9:08:32AM DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE COME BEFORE THE THRONE OF GRACE
9:08:36AM WITH A BOWED HEAD AND HUMBLED HEART I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK
9:08:40AM YOU.
9:08:40AM THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE
9:08:43AM MAYOR OF THIS GREAT CITY.
9:08:44AM THANK YOU FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS.
9:08:47AM I PRAY A SPECIAL BLESSING UPON THOSE WHO SUFFERED THAT
9:08:51AM DEVASTATING LOSS IN THOSE RECENT WILDFIRES AND HURRICANES.
9:08:55AM I PRAY A SPECIAL BLESSING ON ALL OF OUR LEADERS AT EVERY
9:08:59AM LEVEL IN OUR CITY AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
9:09:01AM GIVE THEM GRACE TO BRING TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND STABILITY TO
9:09:05AM OUR REGION.
9:09:06AM GIVE THEM THE POWER TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND TO RULE IN
9:09:10AM FAIRNESS.
9:09:10AM MAY OUR COMMUNITY BE KNOWN FOR ITS JUSTICE.
9:09:14AM AS WE LEAVE HERE TODAY, I PRAY A HEDGE OF PROTECTION OVER
9:09:18AM EACH ONE OF US AND OUR FAMILIES IN THE MATCHLESS NAME OF
9:09:22AM YOUR SON, I PRAY, AMEN.
9:09:26AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:09:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:09:38AM ALL RIGHT.
9:09:40AM IF I MAY HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:09:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:09:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:09:46AM >> CLENDENIN?
9:09:46AM HENDERSON?
9:09:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:09:49AM >> VIERA?
9:09:49AM MIRANDA?
9:09:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:09:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:09:51AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:09:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:09:54AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WILL BE HERE IN ABOUT 10, 20 MINUTES OR
9:09:58AM SO.
9:09:58AM WE HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN'S
9:10:00AM OFFICE THAT HE WILL BE ABSENT FROM TODAY'S WORKSHOP.
9:10:03AM AT THIS TIME, MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS THE
9:10:07AM RULES AND PROCEDURES REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN
9:10:10AM HOUSEKEEPING.
9:10:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:10:12AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:10:14AM TODAY IS A COUNCIL WORKSHOP.
9:10:16AM PUBLIC COMMENT AT COUNCIL WORKSHOPS ARE DIFFERENT NOW SINCE
9:10:20AM THE COUNCIL CHANGED ITS RULES IN JUNE.
9:10:23AM THERE IS GENERALLY NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE START OF THE
9:10:26AM MEETING, AN OPEN FORUM, IF YOU WILL, ON WORKSHOP DAYS.
9:10:32AM AT THURSDAY NIGHT'S MEETING, THE COUNCIL CLARIFIED AND
9:10:36AM CHANGED ITS RULES.
9:10:37AM NORMALLY WITH WORKSHOP DAYS, THE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW FOLLOWS
9:10:43AM THE ITEMS DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL AND THEN THE PUBLIC HAS THE
9:10:47AM OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENT BEFORE COUNCIL TAKES ACTION, IF
9:10:50AM ANY.
9:10:51AM BUT THE MOTION MADE FOR TODAY IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
9:10:56AM SUGGESTED THAT THERE MAY BE SPEAKERS WHO WANTED TO BE ABLE
9:10:59AM TO SPEAK ON ITEMS RELATED TO WORKSHOP ITEMS.
9:11:04AM AT THE START OF THE MEETING, PARTICULAR REASON, AND COUNCIL
9:11:08AM BY SUPERMAJORITY VOTE WAIVED THOSE RULES FOR THIS SPECIFIC
9:11:13AM WORKSHOP.
9:11:14AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, PER
9:11:17AM COUNCIL'S MOTION, THAT WOULD BE OUT OF ORDER.
9:11:20AM SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO DO THAT AT A REGULAR MEETING.
9:11:26AM A REMINDER THAT A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL
9:11:30AM SPEAKERS PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:11:32AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE
9:11:36AM ONE OF TWO OPPORTUNITIES.
9:11:37AM YOU CAN EITHER DO IT AT THE START OF THE MEETING OR YOU CAN
9:11:40AM DO IT AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION OF THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
9:11:50AM ONE OR THE OTHER, NOT TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK.
9:11:50AM YOU DO HAVE THE CHOICE OF WHICHEVER ONE IS MORE CONVENIENT
9:11:53AM TO YOU.
9:11:53AM IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU GIVE COUNCIL
9:11:56AM YOUR COMMENTS, THEN MY SUGGESTION IS YOU WAIT.
9:11:58AM AGAIN, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
9:12:01AM SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED THAT YOU SHOULD DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS
9:12:08AM TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY.
9:12:11AM COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER
9:12:14AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:12:16AM AND THE PUBLIC PLEASE BE AWARE THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT
9:12:19AM TAKE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS -- EXCUSE ME, QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
9:12:23AM DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:12:25AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THEY
9:12:28AM ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING
9:12:32AM VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:12:34AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:12:38AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:12:40AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
9:12:43AM FROM OUTSIDE THE LECTERN, THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:12:47AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY ALSO
9:12:50AM BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR BE
9:12:53AM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS OF THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY'S
9:12:56AM MEETING.
9:12:56AM YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY AT THIS WORKSHOP ON THE SUBJECTS
9:13:00AM ARE WELCOME.
9:13:01AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:13:03AM THANK YOU.
9:13:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:13:04AM SO FOR SOME HOUSEKEEPING, I'LL YIELD NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBER
9:13:08AM CARLSON.
9:13:10AM SIR, GO AHEAD.
9:13:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, THANK YOU.
9:13:12AM AFTER THE STORMS A FEW MONTHS AGO AT OUR FIRST MEETING, I
9:13:16AM MADE A MOTION TO PUT NUMBER 5 ON.
9:13:20AM THAT IS AN UPDATE TO THE CITY'S STORMWATER PLAN WHICH REALLY
9:13:25AM STARTED IN 2015 AND 16 AND HAS BEEN UPDATED.
9:13:29AM THE IDEA IS TO LOOK AT THE STORMWATER SYSTEM SYSTEMICALLY.
9:13:34AM THAT'S NUMBER FIVE.
9:13:37AM NUMBER SEVEN WAS TO LOOK AT SOME MORE SHORT-TERM THINGS THAT
9:13:42AM WE COULD DO -- SORRY, MAINTENANCE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO.
9:13:45AM THE PUBLIC REQUESTED THAT WE HAVE THE ENGINEERING FIRM
9:13:48AM PRESENT, THE LEAD ENGINEERING FIRM.
9:13:51AM AND STAFF HAS TOLD ME IN THE LAST FEW DAYS THAT THE ANALYSIS
9:13:56AM PROCESS HAS JUST STARTED AND THE ENGINEERING FIRMS ARE NOT
9:13:59AM AVAILABLE YET.
9:14:00AM THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE THAT THEY CAN PRESENT.
9:14:02AM SO THEY HAVE ASKED ME TO DO A FEW THINGS.
9:14:05AM ONE IS TO GIVE THEM UNTIL MAY, THE FIRST WORKSHOP IN MAY.
9:14:09AM IT HAS PLENTY OF AVAILABILITY ON IT, MAY 22.
9:14:14AM SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE 5 AND 7
9:14:19AM FROM THE AGENDA.
9:14:20AM IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON SPEAKING FROM 5 AND 7, YOU WON'T BE
9:14:22AM ABLE TO DO IT LATER.
9:14:25AM YOU'LL HAVE TO DO IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING BECAUSE
9:14:27AM THEY WON'T BE ON.
9:14:28AM 6 IS ABOUT SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS AND TO SOME EXTENT
9:14:32AM MAINTENANCE.
9:14:32AM WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS COMBINE 5 AND 7 AND PART OF 6 AND
9:14:37AM MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ALL OF THAT AS ONE ITEM TO MAY 22nd.
9:14:41AM THE STAFF ALSO HAD ASKED US TO MAKE THESE UPDATES -- THE
9:14:46AM IDEA THE PUBLIC WANTED IS REGULAR UPDATES, SIMILAR THAT
9:14:49AM WE'VE HAD FROM NELSON CONSTRUCTION AND OTHERS ON OTHER
9:14:53AM PROJECTS.
9:14:53AM BUT THE STAFF SAID WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM TO COME IN.
9:14:56AM INSTEAD OF SIX TIMES A YEAR, CAN WE DO IT FOUR, WHICH I
9:14:59AM THINK IS STILL BETTER THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE.
9:15:01AM I THINK IT'S REASONABLE.
9:15:02AM I'D LIKE TO FIRST MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 5, CM
9:15:08AM 24-9549.
9:15:10AM AND FILE NUMBER 7, FILE CM 24-11104 FROM THE AGENDA.
9:15:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:15:17AM CARLSON.
9:15:18AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:15:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: REMOVE 5 AND 7 FROM THE AGENDA.
9:15:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:15:24AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:24AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:15:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND THING IS AT STAFF'S REQUEST MOVE
9:15:30AM THOSE TO MAY 22.
9:15:32AM BUT TO SIMPLIFY IT, I'VE COMBINED THEM.
9:15:35AM MY MOTION, WHICH I HAD PREVIOUSLY SENT OUT, I MOVE THAT
9:15:39AM COUNCIL -- AND INSTEAD OF EMBEDDING, I MADE IT BULLET
9:15:44AM POINTS.
9:15:45AM I MOVE THAT COUNCIL ASK THAT STORMWATER CONSULTANT APPLIED
9:15:49AM SCIENCES PRESENT AT THE MAY 22 WORKSHOP AND THEN IN
9:15:52AM QUARTERLY UPDATES AT REGULAR MEETINGS REGARDING, NUMBER ONE,
9:15:57AM UPDATE ON THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATING PROCESS, I.E.,
9:16:00AM STATUS OF THE PROJECTS, WHAT NEW PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN
9:16:03AM IDENTIFIED AND WHAT SOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED FOR
9:16:05AM RECOMMENDATION.
9:16:06AM TWO, UPDATES ON THE STORMWATER SYSTEM ANALYSIS.
9:16:08AM THREE, FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATION FOR SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS
9:16:11AM THAT WILL HELP PREVENT FLOODING IN THE NEXT RAINY SEASON.
9:16:15AM FOUR, LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS RECOMMENDED.
9:16:16AM FIVE, UPDATE ON MAINTENANCE THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE
9:16:20AM PLAN FOR COMPLETING THE REMAINDER.
9:16:22AM ALSO, ANY NEW MAINTENANCE FINDINGS.
9:16:25AM SIX, UPDATE ON THE STORMWATER MAINTENANCE METRICS.
9:16:29AM SEVEN, OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED IN MAINTENANCE
9:16:33AM AND INFRASTRUCTURE SINCE 2015.
9:16:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:16:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE NEED A SECOND.
9:16:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:16:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SECOND.
9:16:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE
9:16:45AM PUBLIC KNOWS IS WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT STORMWATER TODAY.
9:16:48AM IT WILL BE NUMBER 6.
9:16:49AM WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS AND WE ARE
9:16:51AM STILL TALKING ABOUT -- WE GOT A LOT OF E-MAIL.
9:16:54AM WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY BUT MOVING SOME OF THE
9:16:57AM OTHER THINGS.
9:16:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: STAFF WILL BE HERE FOR NUMBER 6 LATER.
9:17:00AM IF YOU WANT TO TALK ON 5 OR 7, PLEASE SPEAK AT PUBLIC
9:17:04AM COMMENT NOW.
9:17:04AM IF YOU WANT TO TALK ON 6, WHICH IS SIMILAR, YOU CAN SPEAK
9:17:07AM LATER.
9:17:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
9:17:09AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:17:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS WAS TO CONTINUE THE ITEMS.
9:17:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: INTO MAY.
9:17:15AM THE FIRST WORKSHOP.
9:17:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE TO THE PUBLIC.
9:17:19AM TOOK OUT MY SON FOR HIS BIRTHDAY TODAY.
9:17:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, REGARDING PUBLIC COMMENT,
9:17:25AM PEOPLE CAN SPEAK ON 5 NOW OR 5 LATER OR DOES IT APPLY TO THE
9:17:29AM WHOLE AGENDA?
9:17:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE DECIDED THE OTHER DAY, THEY CAN SPEAK ON
9:17:35AM ANY OF THE SEVEN ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
9:17:37AM THE ONLY THING IS WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT 5 AND 7 LATER, SO
9:17:41AM THERE WON'T BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THEM LATER.
9:17:43AM SIMILAR TO THE 6, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK AFTER 6 LATER,
9:17:47AM THEY CAN DO THAT ALSO.
9:17:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAYBE INVITE ANYBODY TO COME UP WHO WISHES
9:17:50AM TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA --
9:17:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY SIGNED UP.
9:17:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THEY SHOULD HAVE SIGNED UP IDEALLY.
9:17:58AM WHEN THEY DO SIGN UP, YOU CAN TAKE THEIR NAME AND
9:18:01AM ACKNOWLEDGE OR CHECK OFF THE NAME ON THE LIST.
9:18:03AM RATHER THAN CALLING BY NAME AT THE BEGINNING, JUST INVITE
9:18:05AM THEM UP.
9:18:06AM NORMALLY A WORKSHOP DATE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
9:18:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:18:10AM WE HAVE IT OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:18:12AM AT THIS TIME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP.
9:18:14AM I'M SORRY.
9:18:19AM WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER ONLINE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL
9:18:22AM GO TO THE IN PERSON.
9:18:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ALSO?
9:18:25AM THANKS TO THE COUNCIL FOR ACCOMMODATING THIS ONE CHANGE THIS
9:18:30AM TIME TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING.
9:18:32AM SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE LOST THEIR HOMES, AND THERE
9:18:38AM ARE LOTS OF EMOTIONAL STORIES.
9:18:40AM IT'S TOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE
9:18:43AM THEM WAIT ALL DAY.
9:18:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MICHELLE TURNER IS THE ONLY REGISTERED
9:18:48AM SPEAKER.
9:18:48AM WE'LL TAKE HER FIRST AND THEN TO THE IN PERSON.
9:18:51AM MICHELLE TURNER, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:18:55AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:18:57AM >> HI.
9:18:58AM THIS IS MICHELLE TURNER.
9:18:59AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:19:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:19:01AM GO AHEAD.
9:19:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:19:02AM WHILE I CAN'T BE THERE DUE TO ILLNESS, I MUST HIGHLIGHT
9:19:06AM CRITICAL STORMWATER FAILURES AND PREVENTION MAINTENANCE
9:19:08AM TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
9:19:09AM AS YOU KNOW, INTERNAL AUDIT 2418 EXPOSES A LACK OF TECHNICAL
9:19:15AM MAINTENANCE AND EXPERTISE, POOR DOCUMENTATION OF MAINTENANCE
9:19:18AM AND NO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PLANS.
9:19:21AM EVENLY SUBSET WAS STUDIED WHICH IS WHY WE MUST EXPAND THE
9:19:24AM SCOPE FOR ALL AREAS UNDER MOBILITY AND STORMWATER OVERSIGHT.
9:19:27AM IN REFERENCE TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL PRINTOUT AS EXAMPLES, PAGE
9:19:32AM TWO IS A MAP SUMMARIZING THE FLOODING DURING HURRICANE
9:19:34AM MILTON IN CONCORDIA PARK NEAR THE EUCLID CROSSTOWN EXIT.
9:19:39AM ON PAGE 3, DESPITE BEING IN A NON-FLOOD ZONE X, WE HAVE
9:19:40AM FLOODAGE OF OVER 16 INCHES OF WATER DUMPED HERE BETWEEN 8
9:19:44AM AND 9 P.M. DURING MILTON.
9:19:46AM SURGE WAS NOT A FACTOR.
9:19:47AM BY 1 A.M. THE FLOODING RECEDED BUT NOT BEFORE OVER 30 HOMES
9:19:51AM WERE FLOODED.
9:19:51AM PAGE 4 SHOWS STORMWATER HAS ACKNOWLEDGED FLOOD ISSUES SINCE
9:19:54AM 1970s.
9:19:55AM RESIDENTS RAISED CONCERNS AS RECENTLY AS AUGUST 2024 AFTER
9:19:59AM FLASH FLOOD FROM AFTERNOON STORM.
9:20:01AM STORMWATER DISMISSED WARNINGS AND WE PAID THE PRICE.
9:20:03AM THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD DILIGENCE WE FOUND THAT ONE OF TWO
9:20:05AM INTAKE DRAINS WAS COMPLETELY BLOCKED BY DEBRIS AS YOU SEE ON
9:20:09AM PAGE 5.
9:20:10AM STORMWATER LATER REMOVED TWO AND A HALF TRUCKLOADS BUT
9:20:13AM REMAINING DEBRIS SHOWN ON PAGE 6 ALONG WITH PREVIOUSLY
9:20:18AM BLOCKED WERE NONISSUES DESPITE 50% OF THE SITE'S DRAINAGE.
9:20:22AM OVER THREE MONTHS, WE REQUESTED A FULL CULVERT INSPECTION.
9:20:25AM REPEATEDLY TOLD THAT THE CULVERT WAS VERY CLEAN WITH NO
9:20:29AM ISSUES OBSERVED YET LAST WEEK WE FINALLY RECEIVED VIDEO
9:20:32AM FOOTAGE OF 125 FEET OF THE CULVERT, A TINY FRACTION OF OUR
9:20:35AM SYSTEM.
9:20:35AM THE FOOTAGE REVEALED MULTIPLE STRUCTURAL ISSUES.
9:20:38AM PAGE 7 SHOWS CRACKS IN THE PIPE, COMPROMISING SYSTEM
9:20:42AM INTEGRITY.
9:20:43AM PAGE 8 SHOWS SEPARATED JOINT WHICH COULD LEAD TO EROSION AND
9:20:48AM MAJOR FAILURES AS WELL AS CALCIUM RESIDUE, LONG-TERM SEEPAGE
9:20:52AM AND BREAKDOWN.
9:20:53AM PAGE 9, STANDING WATER COMPLETELY SUBMERGING THE CAMERA
9:20:56AM PREVENTING THE FULL ASSESSMENT.
9:20:57AM THE SYSTEM RELIES ON GRAVITY YET WATER LEVELS INCREASED
9:21:01AM FURTHER IN.
9:21:01AM CONTINUOUS STANDING WATER CAN'T BE CONSIDERED NORMAL.
9:21:04AM WE'VE ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT FLOODING WAS DUE TO A
9:21:06AM HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD SYSTEM.
9:21:07AM UNACCEPTABLE TO DISMISS THIS IN COMBINATION OF FACTORS
9:21:11AM COVERED SO FAR.
9:21:11AM CITY MUST SHIFT PRIORITIES.
9:21:13AM SAFETY MUST COME BEFORE PROJECTS LIKE THE RIVERWALK
9:21:15AM EXPANSION.
9:21:16AM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND BUDGET PROCESSES SHOULDN'T MATTER.
9:21:20AM WE'RE ALL THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:21:21AM TODAY I'M CALLING ON THE CITY TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO
9:21:25AM PERFORM AN AUDIT TO IDENTIFY ROOT CAUSES AND SOLUTIONS.
9:21:27AM IMPLEMENT ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY FOR ONGOING
9:21:29AM MAINTENANCE, EXPEDITE LAND AND WATER STUDIES FOR SHORT-TERM
9:21:32AM SOLUTIONS, REMOVE REMAINING DEBRIS AND CLEAR BLOCKAGES NOW
9:21:36AM AND REDIRECT DISCRETIONARY FUNDS TO FLOOD PREVENTION.
9:21:39AM IF OUR SYSTEM ISN'T PROPERLY MAINTAINED WE'LL FLOOD AGAIN.
9:21:42AM WE NEED TO ACT NOW AND HURRICANE SEASON IS ONLY FOUR MONTHS
9:21:46AM AWAY.
9:21:46AM THANK YOU.
9:21:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:21:47AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:21:48AM I WILL NOW GO TO THE IN-PERSON.
9:21:50AM I SEE PAM CANNELLA.
9:21:53AM YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR 6.
9:21:55AM YOU'LL BE SPEAKING JUST AT THIS TIME, CORRECT?
9:21:57AM >> THAT'S IT.
9:21:58AM I'M LEAVING.
9:21:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
9:21:59AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:22:08AM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
9:22:10AM YES, THIS IS ON 6.
9:22:12AM I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PICTURES IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO
9:22:18AM PROVE THAT OUR STORMWATER DRAINAGE IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED?
9:22:20AM I HAVE MORE AT HOME.
9:22:23AM I HOPE THREE -- I HOLD THREE PHONES FULL OF PICTURES.
9:22:27AM IT IS A NEW YEAR.
9:22:29AM ABOUT THIS TIME EVERY YEAR SINCE 2015, I START CALLING TO
9:22:32AM HAVE THE RETENTION POND IN FRONT OF MY HOME ON SAN RAFAEL
9:22:39AM CLEANED OF DEBRIS.
9:22:40AM I KNOW THE WATER LEVEL HAS TO BE BELOW THESE PIPES, WHICH
9:22:45AM ARE RIGHT HERE.
9:22:46AM SHOW A PICTURE OF THE PIPES, WHICH IS THE FIRST ONE.
9:22:51AM ANYWAY, I HAVE THE PICTURE THERE.
9:22:52AM THERE ARE CERTAIN PIPES THAT ARE DRAINAGE PIPES OUT TO THE
9:22:55AM DITCH THAT NEEDS TO BE, THE WATER LEVEL NEEDS TO BE BELOW
9:22:58AM THAT.
9:22:59AM WHEN IT'S NOT I KNOW THAT OUR DRAINAGE DITCH NEEDS TO BE
9:23:03AM CLEANED AND I KNOW THE PIPE THAT GOES OUT FROM THE RETENTION
9:23:06AM POND NEEDS TO BE CLEANED.
9:23:07AM SO I CALL.
9:23:10AM THEY COME OUT OR -- ANYWAY, LET ME GO WHERE I AM AT.
9:23:16AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
9:23:17AM IT ALL GOES TO THE PALMIRA DITCH WHICH DRAINS WEST TO EXIT
9:23:22AM THE BAY.
9:23:22AM THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT CALLS THIS DITCH A HOT SPOT
9:23:26AM BECAUSE IT ALWAYS HAS A PROBLEM AND IT'S IMPORTANT.
9:23:30AM IT'S NOT CLEANED AND IT'S NOT MAINTAINED PROPERLY.
9:23:34AM THERE'S ONLY QUICK FIXES.
9:23:36AM THEY COME IN.
9:23:37AM THEY REMOVE THE VEGETATION AND THEY MOW.
9:23:41AM SO THAT IT APPEARS CLEAN.
9:23:42AM THEN THERE ARE ONLY TWO PIPES DRAINING OUT OF THE RETENTION
9:23:46AM POND IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, BUT FIVE PIPES OF WATER FLOWING
9:23:50AM IN.
9:23:52AM IF THIS DRAINAGE PIPE FROM THE RETENTION POND IS BLOCKED AND
9:23:57AM NOT ABLE TO DRAIN OUT, THE POND FLOWS OVER INTO THE STREETS
9:24:02AM AND INTO MY HOUSE.
9:24:04AM AND THIS IS ONLY ON A RAINY DAY THAT MAYBE RAINS FOR 15
9:24:08AM MINUTES.
9:24:09AM NOW, IT'S NOT ONLY IN MY AREA THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.
9:24:12AM IT'S ALL OVER THAT PART OF SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE I HAVE FAMILY
9:24:16AM ALL OVER.
9:24:17AM I'VE MADE IT MY QUEST TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE DITCHES, THE
9:24:22AM DRAINAGE IN ALL THE AREAS, IN FRONT OF MY DAUGHTER'S HOUSE,
9:24:25AM IN FRONT OF MY MOTHER'S HOUSE, EVERYBODY'S HOUSE.
9:24:27AM I KNOW THIS HAPPENS ALL OVER THAT AREA.
9:24:29AM IN HYDE PARK, WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
9:24:32AM THE SWANN POND IS FULL OF DEBRIS.
9:24:35AM IT SMELLED AND LOOKED LIKE SEWER.
9:24:40AM I REPORTED IT.
9:24:41AM THE DITCHES ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS ARE NOT MAINTAINED.
9:24:45AM DRAINAGE GRATES AND CULVERT DITCHES ARE COVERED WITH
9:24:48AM OVERGROWTH AND DEBRIS.
9:24:51AM THIS PROBLEM EXISTS ALL OVER.
9:24:53AM WHAT DO WE DO?
9:24:53AM WE NEED THESE AREAS TO BE CLEANED.
9:24:56AM DITCHES NEED EXCAVATING.
9:24:59AM PIPES NEED JET CLEANING AND THEN MAINTAINED, REPAIRED OR
9:25:02AM REPLACED, IF NEEDED.
9:25:04AM THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
9:25:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:25:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:25:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU GIVE THOSE PHOTOS FOR THE RECORD?
9:25:13AM >> I HAVE PUT OVER AND OVER PICTURES DURING RECORD.
9:25:18AM IF YOU WANT THESE PICTURES, YEAH, I'LL GIVE THEM TO YOU.
9:25:21AM THEY ARE OUT OF MY PERSONAL -- PART OF MY PERSONAL, BUT I
9:25:25AM GUESS THEY ARE ALL ON MY PHONE.
9:25:27AM I CAN GO BACK AND GET THEM.
9:25:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEVER MIND THEN.
9:25:30AM WE SAW THEM.
9:25:31AM >> BUT YOU DO HAVE THEM.
9:25:33AM I'VE BEEN AT DIFFERENT PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MEETINGS.
9:25:35AM YOU HAVE A VOLUME FULL.
9:25:37AM EACH ONE OF YOU.
9:25:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
9:25:40AM ANYBODY HERE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:25:45AM ONLY ON AGENDA ITEMS.
9:25:49AM MR. DANIELS, YOU ARE SIGNED UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:25:54AM >> SPEAK ON IT BEFORE OR AFTER.
9:25:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU SPEAK NOW, I'LL TAKE YOU OFF THE
9:25:59AM LIST IS THAT OKAY?
9:26:00AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:26:02AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:26:03AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:26:06AM ITEM NUMBER 1 WHERE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
9:26:08AM WHISTLE-BLOWERS AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND HOW THAT NEEDS
9:26:12AM TO BE HANDLED, I THINK WITHIN THE CITY WE HAVE A LARGER
9:26:15AM PROBLEM WHERE WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE WHISTLE-BLOWING AND
9:26:23AM ENCOURAGE EMPLOYEES OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
9:26:26AM COMING FORWARD, IF THEY WORK WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, COMING
9:26:29AM FORWARD AND TELL EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE CHILD
9:26:32AM SUPPORT SYSTEM.
9:26:34AM FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS, SINCE JANUARY 4th, 1975, FOR THE
9:26:41AM LAST 50 YEARS, AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE WORST --
9:26:51AM THE WORST ASPECT OF THAT ADMINISTRATIVE BODY THAT'S CALLED
9:26:57AM DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT.
9:27:00AM IT'S RACIST.
9:27:01AM IT'S DISCRIMINATORY.
9:27:03AM IT DOES LIKE DRACONIAN STUFF.
9:27:09AM INCARCERATION FOR INDEBTEDNESS.
9:27:12AM INCARCERATION FOR ALLEGEDLY -- TO YOUR OWN CHILD.
9:27:19AM THEY SAY YOU'RE NOT BEING INCARCERATED DEBT.
9:27:22AM YOU'RE BEING INCARCERATED FOR CONTEMPT OF COURT.
9:27:26AM WHAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING, PREDOMINANTLY
9:27:29AM BLACK MEN AND NOW MORE SO A LOT OF AFRICAN WOMEN HAVE BEEN
9:27:32AM EXPERIENCING IS JUST A JIM CROW SYSTEM THAT THEY CALL IT AN
9:27:38AM ADMINISTRATIVE SYSTEM.
9:27:39AM IT IS THE FOURTH BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT THAT'S OPERATING RIGHT
9:27:41AM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:27:43AM IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO BE DONE ABOUT WHISTLE-BLOWERS OR
9:27:46AM MONEY TO BE SPENT ON WHISTLE-BLOWERS OR PROGRAM TO LOOK AT
9:27:48AM WHISTLE-BLOWERS, I THINK THAT AREA OF CHILD SUPPORT NEED TO
9:27:51AM BE DISCUSSED.
9:27:53AM SO MANY BLACK MEN THAT HAVE BEEN TO PRISON, SO MANY AFRICAN
9:28:01AM MEN TO PRISON FOR INABILITY TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT.
9:28:05AM TO PRISON, NO LEGAL REPRESENTATION, NO APPOINTMENT OF
9:28:12AM COUNSEL, NOTHING.
9:28:13AM AND WHEN YOU GO IN THE CHILD SUPPORT COURT, THEY TALK TO YOU
9:28:16AM AS NASTY AS EVER.
9:28:18AM IT IS THE WORST FORM OF THE KU KLUX KLAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY
9:28:23AM EXPERIENCE.
9:28:23AM IT IS THE WORST FORM OF IT.
9:28:26AM HEARING OFFICER CAMPBELL, HEARING OFFICER SABRINA FRYE,
9:28:33AM HEARING OFFICER -- IT IS JUST HORRIFIC DOWN THERE.
9:28:39AM I THINK THIS CITY NEED -- I'VE GIVEN YOU GUYS LITERATURE
9:28:42AM BEFORE IN REFERENCE TO THAT.
9:28:44AM THEY CLAIM THEY SERVE YOU.
9:28:46AM NEVER BEEN SERVED.
9:28:47AM THEY ARE SUSPENDING YOUR LICENSE.
9:28:49AM SUSPENDING YOUR PASSPORT.
9:28:50AM OTHER THINGS THEY ARE DOING THAT IS REAL DRACONIAN.
9:28:53AM THE CITY COUNCIL REALLY NEED TO EXPEND TIME AND RESOURCES
9:28:58AM LOOKING INTO THIS.
9:29:00AM IT IS A REAL PROBLEM THAT REALLY AFFECTS THE AFRICAN
9:29:02AM AMERICAN COMMUNITY ADVERSELY AND DISPROPORTIONATELY.
9:29:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:29:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:29:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:29:08AM ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK NOW?
9:29:10AM IF NOT, WE WAIT UNTIL AFTER EACH ITEM.
9:29:13AM ALL RIGHT.
9:29:16AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:29:17AM PASTOR WILLIAMS, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK NOW?
9:29:21AM COME ON UP, SIR.
9:29:33AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS, LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT
9:29:36AM STREET, PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
9:29:39AM YOU KNOW, IT'S SO SAD THAT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE OF COLOR TO
9:29:46AM COME UP.
9:29:48AM TAKE OUR CHURCHES.
9:29:51AM RIGHT NOW, MY CHURCH IS IN A DILEMMA.
9:29:53AM PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH LOCATED ON 1112 EAST
9:29:58AM SCOTT STREET.
9:29:59AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:30:00AM THEY WANT TO TAKE MY CHURCH AND GIVE IT TO THE PUERTO RICANS
9:30:07AM OR WHITE FOLKS.
9:30:09AM I FOUND A LETTER, I WAS GOING TO SELL THE CHURCH -- WANT TO
9:30:20AM GO THROUGH THE GATE, WALKING WITH A WHEELCHAIR AND
9:30:23AM EVERYTHING.
9:30:23AM ABOUT READY FOR ME TO TAKE OFF MY PANTS.
9:30:29AM IT'S RIDICULOUS.
9:30:30AM WHY DON'T YOU ALL TREAT PEOPLE LIKE PEOPLE.
9:30:33AM DON'T LOOK AT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN AND EVERYTHING WOULD
9:30:37AM BE A WHOLE LOT BETTER.
9:30:38AM BUT YOU DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT US.
9:30:41AM BUT WE CARE ABOUT OURSELVES.
9:30:43AM THE THING ABOUT IT, I BELIEVE IN GOD.
9:30:47AM I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST.
9:30:51AM SOMEBODY SITTING BACK THERE BACK OF ME ONE DAY -- SHE TOLD
9:31:03AM ME SHE WORKED WITH THE CITY AND SHE WAS COMING OUT TO HELP
9:31:06AM ME.
9:31:06AM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:31:07AM SHE CAME OUT THERE TO STEAL FROM ME.
9:31:13AM STEALING FROM ME.
9:31:16AM ONLY NAME I GOT FROM HER WAS LEE.
9:31:20AM YOU KNOW THAT'S SAD HOW PEOPLE COME IN, MISTREAT OLD FOLKS.
9:31:25AM THEY COME IN AND WANT TO STEAL.
9:31:27AM SHE TOLD ME ONLY WAY SHE CAN HELP ME, I GOT TO GIVE THEM MY
9:31:32AM BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER.
9:31:34AM I GAVE IT TO HER.
9:31:35AM I FIGURED SHE WAS TRUTHFUL.
9:31:37AM BOY, GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY, THEY ROBBED ME BIG TIME.
9:31:42AM 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
9:31:44AM THAT'S WHERE I'M LOCATED AT.
9:31:46AM THEY ROBBED ME BIG TIME BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT IT, THEY
9:31:51AM LOOK AT ME WITH THE GRAY HAIR REALIZE THAT I'M AN OLD MAN.
9:31:56AM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:31:58AM YOU GOT TO ALSO UNDERSTAND IF GOD LETS YOU ALL KEEP LIVING,
9:32:04AM YOU WILL GET OLD ONE TIME.
9:32:07AM HOPEFUL THAT YOU ALL DO, BUT I THANK GOD THAT I'M UP IN AGE
9:32:11AM AND GOD GAVE ME A LONG LIFE.
9:32:14AM BUT PRACTICALLY ALL MY LIFE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA I'VE
9:32:20AM BEEN MISTREATED BECAUSE I CAME FROM THE OLD SCHOOL.
9:32:23AM NOBODY SEEMS TO CARE THAT THEY WANT TO HELP US.
9:32:29AM I THINK NEXT WEEK I'LL TALK TO THE GIRL NAMED LEE AND THEN
9:32:34AM SHE DOESN'T GIVE ME THE ANSWER THAT I NEED, I HAVE TO CALL
9:32:38AM THE POLICE.
9:32:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:32:41AM >> THANK YOU.
9:32:43AM DO THE RIGHT THING.
9:32:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:32:46AM EVERYBODY ELSE IS SIGNED UP FOR A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM SO
9:32:49AM THAT WILL CLOSE OUT THE ONE-TIME ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE
9:32:53AM BEGINNING OF THE WORKSHOP.
9:32:54AM THAT WAS JUST AN EXCEPTION FOR TODAY.
9:32:56AM WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:32:59AM WE'LL HEAR A PRESENTATION OR HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN
9:33:02AM THOSE THAT SIGNED UP FOR ONE I'LL CALL UP THAT HAVE NOT
9:33:05AM SPOKEN.
9:33:06AM WHO WILL KICK IT OFF FOR ITEM NUMBER 1?
9:33:08AM THIS IS A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:33:11AM DO YOU WANT TO SET UP THE DISCUSSION?
9:33:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
9:33:14AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM STAFF TO SPEAK ON THIS.
9:33:17AM HERE IS THE ISSUE.
9:33:19AM I WORK WITH A LOT OF COMPANIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND
9:33:22AM AROUND THE WORLD.
9:33:24AM MOST OF THEM HAVE SOME KIND OF THIRD-PARTY SYSTEM THAT IF
9:33:27AM SOMEBODY HAS A COMPLAINT THEY CAN CALL AND MAKE A COMPLAINT
9:33:32AM TO SOMEONE WITHOUT FEAR OF RETRIBUTION.
9:33:36AM THEN THERE IS AN EXTERNAL PROCESS THAT'S HANDLED SO THAT
9:33:40AM PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT IT.
9:33:41AM WHISTLE-BLOWERS ARE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS.
9:33:45AM IT COULD BE SOMEBODY WHO FEELS LIKE THEY WERE DISCRIMINATED
9:33:47AM AGAINST.
9:33:47AM IT COULD BE SOMEBODY WHO OBSERVED SOMETHING UNETHICAL OR
9:33:50AM ILLEGAL.
9:33:51AM FOR EXAMPLE, THE USE OF FEDERAL MONEY IN THE WRONG WAY,
9:33:57AM WOULD WE RATHER FIND OUT ABOUT IT BY SOMEBODY FILING A KEY
9:34:02AM TIME SUIT OR HAVE A THIRD PARTY ALERT US THAT SOMEONE HAS
9:34:06AM COMPLAINED THAT SOMETHING POTENTIALLY UNETHICAL HAS
9:34:08AM HAPPENED.
9:34:10AM RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE FEEL THAT THERE IS NO PROPER THIRD-PARTY
9:34:13AM PROCESS WITH EMPLOYMENT ISSUES.
9:34:14AM THEY CONTACT TYPICALLY THE HR DEPARTMENT.
9:34:19AM HR DEPARTMENT, CONCERNED EMPLOYEES STATE TO ME IS THE HR
9:34:24AM DEPARTMENT ULTIMATELY REPORTS TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF WHICH
9:34:27AM REPORTS TO THE MAYOR.
9:34:28AM SO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN'T PASS ON ISSUES.
9:34:32AM I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD DOZENS OF CALLS OVER THE LAST FIVE,
9:34:36AM SIX YEARS.
9:34:38AM SOME OF THEM ANONYMOUS.
9:34:40AM MANY OF THEM PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED.
9:34:43AM THE MAIN THING IS FEAR OF RETRIBUTION FROM THE SYSTEM.
9:34:48AM THEY FEEL THAT THE SYSTEM IS ARBITRARY AND THAT THERE'S
9:34:52AM SOMETIMES RETALIATION OR RETRIBUTION.
9:34:56AM THOSE BECOME MAJOR CRISES AND MAJOR LAWSUITS.
9:34:59AM WE KNOW FROM THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION WE JUST RECENTLY
9:35:02AM SETTLED A DISCRIMINATION CASE THAT WAS A FEDERAL CASE
9:35:06AM AGAINST THAT MEN WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION FILED AGAINST THE
9:35:10AM CITY FOR LACK OF PATERNITY COVERAGE.
9:35:16AM THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE CONTACT ME ANONYMOUSLY, AND
9:35:19AM MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE HAD THE SAME CALLS, THEY SAY WE DON'T
9:35:23AM WANT TO CONTACT HR BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE DO, THE CHIEF OF
9:35:27AM STAFF AND MAYOR KNOWS AND THEN I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT BEING
9:35:30AM FAIRLY HEARD IN THE PROCESS SO WE NEED AN EXTERNAL SYSTEM
9:35:34AM THAT PROTECTS PEOPLE.
9:35:35AM I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD CASES WHERE WOMEN HAVE COME TO ME
9:35:39AM FEELING THAT THEY WERE AFRAID TO BE AROUND A CERTAIN PERSON
9:35:42AM WITHIN THE CITY.
9:35:43AM I PASSED ON THE INFORMATION TO ASK WHAT TO DO.
9:35:46AM WHAT I WAS TOLD IS THE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO REPORT IT
9:35:49AM DIRECTLY.
9:35:51AM INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE REPORTED TO ME THAT THEY FEEL
9:35:54AM DISCRIMINATED AGAINST FEEL LIKE THERE MAY BE RETRIBUTION.
9:35:58AM THEY FEEL LIKE THEY MAY BE TURNED INTO A POLITICAL PAWN
9:36:02AM WHERE ISSUES WOULD BE PUBLICIZED, EMBARRASSED, MIGHT HURT
9:36:07AM THEIR CAREER.
9:36:07AM IN THOSE CASES NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.
9:36:09AM THERE WAS NO INVESTIGATION, EVEN THOUGH I PASSED ON THE
9:36:13AM INFORMATION, I HAD TO PASS ON ANONYMOUSLY AND THEY WEREN'T
9:36:17AM ABLE TO GET ANY KIND OF INVESTIGATION.
9:36:20AM SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE CITY PEOPLE FEEL
9:36:23AM LIKE THEY ARE TREATED FAIRLY, THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO
9:36:29AM GIVE FEEDBACK WITHOUT RETALIATION.
9:36:31AM I WOULD RECOMMEND SOME KIND OF SYSTEM LIKE THAT.
9:36:35AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HERE FROM STAFF IS AROUND.
9:36:37AM IF NOT, MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE IDEAS OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
9:36:40AM YOU'VE WORKED WITH AND ISSUES LIKE THAT.
9:36:42AM TYPICALLY THERE WOULD BE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTING FIRM AND
9:36:46AM EMPLOYEES KNOW THERE IS A HOT LINE THEY CAN CALL AND THAT
9:36:49AM THE INFORMATION IS KEPT ANONYMOUSLY.
9:36:53AM THEIR IDENTITY IS NOT REPORTED BACK TO WHOEVER THE
9:36:57AM MANAGEMENT IS SO THAT IT CAN BE HANDLED ANONYMOUSLY AND
9:37:00AM CONFIDENTIALLY WITHOUT FEAR OF RETALIATION.
9:37:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:37:05AM IS THERE ANYBODY FROM STAFF?
9:37:07AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YES, SIR.
9:37:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT THE SMARTEST OR THE BRIGHTEST
9:37:11AM INDIVIDUAL ON EARTH AND I ADMIT IT.
9:37:13AM BUT I LIKE TO GO RIGHT TO THE CRUX OF THINGS THAT ARE EITHER
9:37:18AM PERMITTED OR NOT PERMITTED, REPORTED OR NOT REPORTED,
9:37:21AM ANONYMOUSLY OR NOT ANONYMOUSLY.
9:37:24AM I SIT HERE AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, FIRST OF ALL.
9:37:27AM SECOND OF ALL, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE.
9:37:30AM I'M SURE MR. CARLSON DID THAT AND -- RECEIVED THAT ARE
9:37:36AM FACTUAL.
9:37:37AM BEING THAT SAID, THINGS THAT YOU LEARN IN CRIMINOLOGY --
9:37:41AM I'LL STOP THERE ONE SECOND AND GO BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE --
9:37:45AM AND I'M NOT BLAMING THE LEGISLATURE.
9:37:47AM VERY CAREFULLY, IF I GET A CALL AT THE OFFICE AND THAT
9:37:50AM NUMBER COMES IN, GOT THE PERSON'S NAME ON IT, WHEN I TURN
9:37:55AM THAT IN, I'VE GOT TO SAY THAT PERSON AT THAT NUMBER CALLED.
9:38:00AM THAT IS A LAW THAT THE LEGISLATURE PUT IN.
9:38:03AM NOT THIS COUNCIL.
9:38:04AM WHAT I DO, I SAY THE OFFICE OF CHARLIE MIRANDA.
9:38:08AM I TAKE THE HEAT.
9:38:09AM NO MATTER WHO CALLED.
9:38:11AM I'M SURE THAT ALL THE FACTS PRESENTED ARE VALID.
9:38:18AM HOWEVER, HOW DO YOU SOLVE IT?
9:38:19AM YOU SOLVE IT WITH A THIRD PARTY THAT YOU ARE PAYING THEM TO
9:38:22AM DO SOMETHING?
9:38:22AM I DON'T THINK SO.
9:38:25AM I'LL GO RIGHT TO THE CRUX OF THE INVESTIGATION.
9:38:28AM TURN IT ALL OVER TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW
9:38:30AM ENFORCEMENT.
9:38:32AM THEY ARE ASIDE FROM CITY AND COUNTY.
9:38:34AM LET THEM HANDLE IT AND LET WHOEVER IT IS, FACT OR NOT FACT,
9:38:41AM BE REVIEWED -- NOTICE I DIDN'T SAY INVESTIGATED.
9:38:46AM REVIEW OF SOMETHING SOMEBODY TRANSMITTED TO A GOVERNMENT
9:38:49AM OFFICIAL SAYING THAT THE PERSON IN CHARGE, WHOEVER IT IS,
9:38:53AM HUMAN RELATIONS OR WHATEVER, IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB
9:38:55AM CORRECTLY.
9:38:56AM I GOT TO TAKE THE CLOUD OFF THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHETHER IT'S
9:39:00AM ME THAT'S WRONG OR ANYONE ELSE OR THE PERSON WHO KEEPS
9:39:04AM SENDING ME THINGS ARE WRONG OR RIGHT, I GOT TO COME TO THE
9:39:08AM END OF IT.
9:39:09AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY AS AN ELECTED
9:39:15AM OFFICIAL.
9:39:15AM WHATEVER SAID SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED THEN.
9:39:17AM IF ALL THE FACTS ARE HERE, LET'S HAVE A BIG INVESTIGATION.
9:39:21AM I CALL FOR ONE.
9:39:23AM SO IF YOU HEAR ME, DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, TAKE ALL
9:39:26AM THE FACTS AND LET'S GET GOING, WHETHER IT IS ME OR NOT.
9:39:29AM I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS.
9:39:30AM BUT IF SOMEBODY IS CALLING AND SAYING THEIR UPWARD MOBILITY
9:39:35AM TO BE HEARD HAS BEEN INTERRUPTED, THAT'S VERY, VERY
9:39:40AM DIFFICULT AND VERY WRONG FOR ME TO SAY THAT IT WAS NOT.
9:39:43AM SO I PERSONALLY WANT TO KNOW WHO IS DOING THIS AND WHY THEY
9:39:48AM ARE DOING IT, IF THEY ARE DOING IT.
9:39:49AM SO I ASK FOR THIS COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO ASK THE
9:39:54AM FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS NOT ATTACHED
9:39:57AM TO THE CITY POLICE FORCE OR THE COUNTY POLICE FORCE, TO
9:40:02AM INVESTIGATE EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID THIS MORNING, WHETHER
9:40:04AM IT'S ME OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER THAT SAYS ANYTHING TODAY
9:40:07AM OR GOING FORWARD.
9:40:09AM IT'S GOT TO STOP.
9:40:11AM I WANT TO KNOW WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG.
9:40:13AM THE PUBLIC DESERVES IT, NOT I.
9:40:15AM I'M JUST A TRANSMISSION OF THE INFORMATION THAT I HEAR FROM
9:40:19AM THIS COUNCIL.
9:40:21AM IF THERE ARE OTHERS WHO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING IS WRONG,
9:40:25AM LET'S GET IT OUT.
9:40:26AM LET'S HEAR IT.
9:40:27AM I'M NOT HERE TO STAND STILL.
9:40:29AM WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
9:40:32AM IT'S OUR GOVERNMENT.
9:40:34AM IT'S OUR CITY.
9:40:35AM AND IT'S GOT TO COME OUT TO WHO IS WHAT AND WHO IS DOING
9:40:39AM WHAT, NOT RIGHT OR WRONG.
9:40:41AM I'VE ONLY GOT TWO YEARS LEFT, MAYBE, IF THE LORD GIVES ME
9:40:48AM FOUR, WHO KNOWS WHAT I'LL DO.
9:40:50AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS HAS TO COME TO SOME RESOLUTION, TO
9:40:53AM SAY MIRANDA IS WRONG, HE DID THIS.
9:40:55AM FAULT ME IF I'M WRONG.
9:40:58AM YOU LEARN THAT BY GROWING UP AND UNDERSTANDING THERE'S
9:41:03AM ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO A STORY.
9:41:06AM AND I'M NOT HEARING EITHER SIDE.
9:41:08AM I HEAR INNUENDOS.
9:41:10AM I'M NOT SAYING HE'S INCORRECT.
9:41:12AM I'M SAYING THAT'S THE INFORMATION HE GOT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW
9:41:16AM WHO IS RIGHT.
9:41:17AM DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT.
9:41:18AM IT'S GOT TO COME TO A RESOLUTION.
9:41:20AM WHOEVER IS DOING THAT IT'S GOT TO END.
9:41:23AM IF I GET A SECOND, WE'LL DO IT, IF NOT, IT DIES.
9:41:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
9:41:28AM I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, EXCEPT I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE
9:41:32AM ATTORNEY GENERAL.
9:41:32AM CAN I SAY ONE THING?
9:41:34AM THE PROCESS FOR EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN DISCRIMINATED
9:41:36AM AGAINST IS THAT -- I'M NOT AN HR ATTORNEY -- BUT THEY ARE
9:41:39AM REQUIRED TO GO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE EEOC DIVISION,
9:41:44AM AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THEM THAT TAKES
9:41:49AM MONTHS.
9:41:49AM AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS, THEY ARE TOLD WHETHER THEY ARE
9:41:51AM ALLOWED TO SUE THE CITY OR NOT.
9:41:55AM MANY EMPLOYEES DON'T WANT TO SUE THE CITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T
9:41:58AM WANT THAT PUBLIC MARK ON THEIR REPUTATION.
9:42:00AM ALSO I'VE BEEN TOLD LAWYERS ASK FOR 40, 50 THOUSAND DOLLAR
9:42:04AM DEPOSIT.
9:42:05AM MOST EMPLOYEES DON'T EARN ENOUGH TO PUT IN 40, 50 THOUSAND
9:42:08AM DOLLARS.
9:42:09AM IF THERE IS A PROCESS THAT HANDLES THAT, FIRST OF ALL, IT
9:42:11AM COULD AVOID LITIGATION IN THE FUTURE AND AVOID EMBARRASSMENT
9:42:14AM AND ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, FEEL LIKE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE
9:42:17AM BEING PROTECTED.
9:42:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, YOU WERE GETTING UP, SIR?
9:42:24AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:42:25AM GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
9:42:26AM I CAME IN HAD TO KIND OF LISTEN TO THE WORKSHOP.
9:42:30AM SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND ASKED FOR STAFF, MORE THAN HAPPY
9:42:33AM TO COME UP.
9:42:34AM THE ONLY THING I WANT TO POINT OUT AT THIS TIME IS THAT
9:42:37AM PRIOR TO THIS ADMINISTRATION, THERE WAS A FRAUD HOT LINE SET
9:42:40AM UP FOR ANONYMOUS CALLING.
9:42:42AM IT GOES TO THE CITY AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
9:42:44AM THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT HAS A BACKEND SYSTEM THAT MAKES SURE
9:42:48AM THAT THE ANONYMOUS CALLER FROM THE THIRD PARTY IS CARRIED
9:42:52AM THROUGH THE DUE PROCESS EFFORT.
9:42:54AM THIS ADMINISTRATION, I MADE A RECOMMENDATION, THE MAYOR
9:42:58AM APPROVED IT, WE ADDED A DISCRIMINATION SIDE TO THAT LINE.
9:43:02AM SO WHETHER THERE'S FRAUD OR DISCRIMINATION, OCEA WYNN AS OUR
9:43:06AM CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER, WOULD MONITOR THAT SIDE.
9:43:10AM OF COURSE, ANYTHING THAT COMES THROUGH THERE TO CHRISTINE
9:43:11AM GLOVER'S OFFICE COULD BE SET FOR INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL
9:43:17AM INVESTIGATIONS.
9:43:18AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC IS AWARE THE LINE
9:43:22AM EXISTS.
9:43:22AM IT IS A PAID-FOR SERVICE.
9:43:24AM BUT THAT DOESN'T COMPLETELY ANSWER WHAT COUNCIL WAS
9:43:27AM DISCUSSING.
9:43:28AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF THAT.
9:43:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION --
9:43:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE.
9:43:36AM HAS THERE BEEN, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANY DISCUSSION WITH
9:43:39AM UNIONS ON THIS?
9:43:39AM ATU, PBA, 754 ON THEIR FEELINGS?
9:43:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'VE SPOKEN I THINK TO ALL OF THEM.
9:43:49AM THEY INTERVENE ON CASES ALSO, AND I DON'T WANT TO NAME NAMES
9:43:53AM OR SITUATIONS, TRYING NOT TO IDENTIFY BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE
9:43:57AM ASKED TO BE ANONYMOUS, BUT THERE ARE CASES WHERE THE UNIONS
9:44:00AM FEEL LIKE THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO, THEY ARE POWERLESS AS WELL.
9:44:04AM AND THERE'S SOME PRETTY EGREGIOUS STUFF THAT HAS HAPPENED.
9:44:10AM ALLEGATIONS OF RETALIATION AGAINST EMPLOYEES, FORMER
9:44:13AM EMPLOYEES.
9:44:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: I ASK THAT BECAUSE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT
9:44:16AM THE UNIONS FELT THAT WE NEEDED CHANGE ON FORMALLY THAT THEY
9:44:19AM COULD SPEAK OUT ON THROUGH THEIR PRESIDENT, THAT WOULD BE
9:44:24AM USEFUL INFORMATION.
9:44:25AM THAT'S ALL.
9:44:25AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:44:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:44:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A HOT LINE BUT IT'S
9:44:31AM NOT WORKING IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR PEOPLE DON'T
9:44:34AM FEEL COMFORTABLE USING IT.
9:44:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO HEAD AUDITOR REPORTS TO THE MAYOR.
9:44:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S FAIR.
9:44:41AM IF YOU HAD A MOTION TO SUPPORT STARTING -- YOU KNOW, LOOKING
9:44:46AM INTO A THIRD PARTY, I MEAN, I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THAT AS
9:44:51AM SOMEONE WHO, YOU KNOW, WORKED FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND HAD
9:44:56AM UNION REPRESENTATION.
9:44:57AM BUT SOMETIMES THAT WASN'T ENOUGH.
9:45:00AM I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
9:45:02AM I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE WE NEED TO DO NEXT
9:45:06AM AND KEEPING IT OUTSIDE OF THE CONFINES OF THE CITY, I THINK
9:45:11AM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
9:45:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:45:13AM BEFORE WE TAKE ANY ACTION ON ANY MOTIONS, I WANT TO GO TO
9:45:16AM PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST.
9:45:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
9:45:19AM I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION, NOT TO TAKE A VOTE UNTIL THE
9:45:22AM END.
9:45:22AM I UNDERSTAND MAKING A THIRD PARTY.
9:45:24AM THEY ARE GOING TO QUESTION THE THIRD PARTY.
9:45:26AM WHY NOT GIVE IT TO ANOTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT'S NOT
9:45:31AM TIED TO ANYBODY?
9:45:32AM THAT'S WHAT THEIR JOB IS DONE FOR?
9:45:33AM WHY THEY WERE CREATED.
9:45:35AM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
9:45:36AM IF EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD TODAY IS ON THE RECORD, THERE
9:45:41AM WILL BE AN INVESTIGATION TO LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT ARE
9:45:45AM VALID AND LOOK AT THINGS THAT THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN
9:45:51AM TWO PARTIES THAT MEAN NOTHING.
9:45:52AM THEY JUST DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER.
9:45:54AM BUT IT'S GOT TO COME OUT.
9:45:56AM YOU CANNOT CONTINUE TO RUN A GOVERNMENT AND EVERY, EVERY SO
9:46:01AM OFTEN, WELL, THIS DOESN'T LIKE THAT, THIS DOESN'T LIKE THAT.
9:46:05AM THIS DOESN'T GO HERE.
9:46:06AM WHAT'S WRONG?
9:46:07AM THERE'S BEEN NO CRIMINAL ACTION.
9:46:09AM I WANT CRIMINAL ACTION.
9:46:10AM I'M ASKING FOR MY OWN INVESTIGATION.
9:46:13AM I'M ASKING ALL OF US BE INVESTIGATED, FROM THE MAYOR DOWN.
9:46:17AM TO EVERYTHING WE HAVE.
9:46:21AM I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON IT AND VOTE ON IT IF WE CAN, MR.
9:46:25AM CHAIRMAN, AFTER THE DISCUSSION.
9:46:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:46:28AM LET ME CHECK THE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE.
9:46:31AM SIGN UP AND MAYBE IT WILL REFRESH.
9:46:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAYBE SHE CAN SIGN UP AFTERWARDS.
9:46:45AM WE'RE DOING THIS TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME.
9:46:53AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:46:59AM >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
9:47:01AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
9:47:09AM I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A THIRD PARTY.
9:47:11AM I THINK WHEN EMPLOYEES, THIS IS PERTAINING TO EMPLOYEE
9:47:16AM GRIEVANCES.
9:47:18AM NOT EVERY GRIEVANCE IS A CRIMINAL ACT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
9:47:21AM GET INVOLVED IN IT.
9:47:22AM BUT HOW DO YOU KEEP OR HAVE SOMEBODY FEEL SAFE BECAUSE THERE
9:47:29AM IS A THING OF RETALIATION.
9:47:31AM SUPERVISORS RETALIATE.
9:47:32AM THE EMPLOYEES DO RETALIATE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP
9:47:39AM WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN THERE, AND THEY RETALIATE AGAINST
9:47:43AM THE EMPLOYEES.
9:47:43AM I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO SHOW THAT THE CITY WANTS THESE
9:47:48AM THINGS, THE BAD ACTORS TO BE HANDLED OR TAKEN CARE OF SO
9:47:53AM THEY'LL KNOW WHO THEY ARE DEALING WITH.
9:47:55AM I THINK THAT A THIRD PARTY, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR A THIRD PARTY
9:47:59AM TO BE INVOLVED IN IT.
9:48:01AM AND IT'S GIVING -- IT'S LOOKING AT THINGS THROUGH A
9:48:04AM DIFFERENT LENS.
9:48:04AM I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT THINGS THROUGH LENSES.
9:48:07AM WHEN YOU'RE IN THE SYSTEM, SOMEBODY THAT REPORTS TO
9:48:13AM ADMINISTRATION OR TO ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE SYSTEM, THIS
9:48:16AM SYSTEM IS WELL OILED, AND THIS SYSTEM IS VERY DEEP.
9:48:21AM SO PEOPLE ADHERE.
9:48:24AM ALTHOUGH THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING, THEY WANT TO
9:48:26AM PROTECT THEIR JOB.
9:48:28AM SO IF THEM KEEPING SOMEBODY OR HANDLING A PERSON A CERTAIN
9:48:31AM WAY ALLOWS THEM TO KEEP THEIR JOB, EVERYBODY IS AFRAID OF
9:48:35AM LOSING THEIR JOB.
9:48:36AM THE THIRD PARTY IS NOT.
9:48:38AM HOPEFULLY WHATEVER THIRD PARTY THAT YOU DECIDE ON WILL BE
9:48:43AM HONEST AND ABLE TO, YOU KNOW -- YEAH, I AGREE.
9:48:49AM THANK YOU.
9:48:50AM AND THANK YOU.
9:48:52AM I'LL GO SIGN UP.
9:48:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:48:54AM STEPHANIE POYNOR IS OUR FIRST SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY DANNI
9:48:58AM JORGENSON, ALANA BRASIER, CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
9:49:02AM THOSE ARE THE SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
9:49:03AM STEPHANIE POYNOR WILL BE THE FIRST SPEAKER FOR ITEM NUMBER
9:49:07AM 1.
9:49:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:49:13AM I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE CASES WHERE JORGENSON SHOULD BE
9:49:18AM GOING FIRST.
9:49:18AM THIS IS AN HR ISSUE.
9:49:20AM WHILE I APPRECIATE CHIEF BENNETT BEING HERE, I WOULD LIKED
9:49:23AM TO HAVE SEEN THE HR DEPARTMENT HEAD BE HERE.
9:49:26AM DATA DRIVEN FOLKS WOULD LOOK AT HUMAN CAPITAL IN THE CITY
9:49:30AM THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THE BRAIN DRAIN WE'VE SEEN.
9:49:34AM ARE THE FOLKS AT THIS LEVEL -- I'VE GOT A SHORT LIST OF
9:49:37AM PEOPLE THAT I KNOW OF AND I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THEM
9:49:41AM PERSONALLY.
9:49:42AM CRAP, I LEFT MY PHONE BACK THERE BECAUSE I WASN'T READY.
9:49:46AM BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THESE ARE SOME BIG FISH.
9:49:49AM THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING GOOD MONEY.
9:49:52AM MUCH BETTER MONEY THAN I DO.
9:49:54AM ALL THE PEOPLE LEFT.
9:49:56AM DID ANY HAVE AN EXIT INTERVIEW?
9:49:58AM DO THESE FOLKS GET CONTRACTS OR AT-WILL EMPLOYEES?
9:50:01AM IF THEY ARE AT-WILL EMPLOYEES, THEN THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
9:50:04AM WHAT THEY SAY AND WHAT THEY DO.
9:50:06AM I KNOW OTHER ENTITIES GIVE CONTRACTS TO THESE FOLKS SO
9:50:10AM THERE'S SOME KIND OF JOB PROTECTION SO THEY CAN ENSURE THEY
9:50:13AM ARE DOING THE CORRECT THING.
9:50:14AM THANK YOU.
9:50:14AM TWO YEARS AGO, MOST OF THE FOLKS ON THIS LIST WERE GIVEN
9:50:18AM SUBSTANTIAL RAISES BY THE MAYOR.
9:50:21AM SHE WANTED TO GIVE THEM BIG-FAT RAISES.
9:50:23AM REMEMBER THAT?
9:50:23AM WE HAD TO RATCHET DOWN THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GIVE
9:50:27AM THEM A THING.
9:50:27AM IF THEY WERE CRAPPY EMPLOYEES, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO
9:50:30AM GIVE THEM BIG RAISES.
9:50:32AM ALSO POINT OUT THAT WE SPENT $100,000 OF CITIZENS' MONEY TO
9:50:37AM INVESTIGATE COUNCILMAN GUDES AND ABOUT 25,000 TO INVESTIGATE
9:50:42AM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN A SIGN THAT SAYS,
9:50:46AM "HERE'S HOW YOU CAN REPORT A PROBLEM" SIGN.
9:50:50AM NEVER SEEN IT IN THE CITY.
9:50:51AM YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN YOU WORK IN A SCHOOL, WHEN YOU WORK IN A
9:50:54AM BIG FACTORY, BIG COMPANY, IF THEY HAVE A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR
9:50:58AM WHO DOES THAT, THEY ARE IN THE BATHROOM, BACK OF BATHROOM
9:51:02AM DOORS, ELEVATOR, WHERE EVERYBODY CAN FIND THEM.
9:51:04AM BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF TRAUMA SOMEBODY IS GOING
9:51:07AM THROUGH AT THE TIME.
9:51:07AM THESE FOLKS WERE CIVIL SERVANTS.
9:51:12AM THEY ARE NOT UNION MEMBERS.
9:51:14AM THEY CAN'T GO TO THE UNION BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT UNION
9:51:16AM MEMBERS.
9:51:16AM WHAT ABOUT THEM?
9:51:19AM WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT WITH THEM?
9:51:21AM I'M SORRY.
9:51:22AM I WAS UNPREPARED BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS GOING SECOND.
9:51:26AM THIS IS WHAT IS REALLY CUMBERSOME.
9:51:30AM HERE ARE ALL THE MEDIA RELEASES WHERE WE LOST ALL THE HEADS
9:51:39AM AND DEPARTMENT HEADS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT IT'S MY
9:51:43AM UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN EXIT INTERVIEWS.
9:51:46AM DON'T YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THESE FOLKS HAVE LEFT THE CITY?
9:51:49AM PEOPLE WHO MAKE WAY BETTER MONEY THAN I DO.
9:51:54AM THEY JUST PACKED UP AND LEFT.
9:51:56AM SOME MAYBE LEFT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO.
9:51:59AM SOME FELT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
9:52:00AM I THINK IT'S VERY ODD THAT HR IS NOT HERE AND WE HAVEN'T
9:52:04AM DONE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS.
9:52:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE WERE TWO NAMES, IF I MAY LOOK AT
9:52:11AM YOUR LIST, THAT RINGS A BELL IN MY HEAD.
9:52:15AM FIRST, MS. TRAVIS.
9:52:17AM DOING A FANTASTIC JOB IN MY MIND, MY BOOK.
9:52:21AM A WEEK OR SO BEFORE ALL THIS HAPPENED, THE RESIGNATION, I
9:52:24AM SAW HER WALKING IN THE PARKING LOT.
9:52:26AM I CALLED HER OVER.
9:52:27AM YOU CAN ASK HER.
9:52:30AM YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU DON'T LOOK TOO HAPPY AT ALL.
9:52:32AM THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THAT I DON'T LIKE I TOLD HER.
9:52:35AM AND I THINK YOU'RE NOT HAPPY HERE.
9:52:36AM SO I DON'T THINK SHE LEFT BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT SHE DID
9:52:39AM LEAVE.
9:52:40AM LET'S GO TO THE ELMO.
9:52:41AM MS. MOODY, ALL FOUR PEOPLE WHO LEFT WORKED FOR THE MAYOR.
9:52:46AM MS. MOODY NEVER WORKED FOR THE MAYOR.
9:52:48AM SHE WAS THE HARD OF CRA.
9:52:50AM THE CITY COUNCIL IN CHARGE OF THE CRA, NOT THE MAYOR.
9:52:53AM MAYBE SHE LEFT BECAUSE OF ME.
9:52:54AM I DON'T KNOW.
9:52:55AM I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT WHY.
9:52:59AM >> THAT IS THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING WHY DON'T WE HAVE EXIT
9:53:02AM INTERVIEWS.
9:53:03AM FIND OUT WHY, ASK THEM.
9:53:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:53:06AM THAT LIST IS EVERYBODY -- EVERYBODY ON THAT LIST IS A
9:53:09AM SUPERSTAR.
9:53:10AM EVERY NAME I SAW ARE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPECT
9:53:13AM FOR.
9:53:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT LIST ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PEOPLE
9:53:19AM THAT HAVE LEFT TPD, FIRE, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, AND AT LEAST
9:53:24AM ONE OF THE FOLKS THAT LEFT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FILED A
9:53:27AM LAWSUIT.
9:53:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:53:30AM NEXT SPEAKER IS DANNI JORGENSEN, FOLLOWED BY ALANA BRASIER
9:53:35AM AND CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
9:53:36AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
9:53:38AM >> MY NAME IS DANNI JORGENSEN.
9:53:41AM GOOD MORNING.
9:53:42AM UNTIL JUNE 2, 2023, I SERVED AS MANAGER OF THE
9:53:45AM TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING DIVISION AND THE MOBILITY
9:53:47AM DEPARTMENT.
9:53:48AM DURING MY TENURE AT THE CITY, I HAD AN EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE
9:53:51AM RECORD, RECEIVED NUMEROUS ACCOLADES AND BOTH THE CITY AND
9:53:54AM MAYOR CASTOR RECOGNIZED ME NUMEROUS TIMES FOR MY
9:53:57AM CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE MAYOR'S TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES.
9:53:59AM I'M HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS ISSUES CONCERNING DISCRIMINATION
9:54:02AM AT THE CITY THAT NOT ONLY IMPACTED ME BUT ALSO OTHERS WHO
9:54:06AM LEFT THE CITY AND THOSE STILL WITH THE CITY WHO MAY BE
9:54:08AM AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT.
9:54:09AM I FEEL THAT THE CITY HAS NOT PROPERLY ADDRESSED ALLEGATIONS
9:54:13AM OF DISCRIMINATION OR HARASSMENT AND IT'S TIME TO HAVE AN
9:54:16AM OPEN DISCUSSION AND INVESTIGATE THESE ISSUES.
9:54:18AM DURING MY EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY, I EXPERIENCED
9:54:21AM DISCRIMINATION AND HARASSMENT THAT I BELIEVE WAS BASED ON MY
9:54:24AM SEX AND FAMILIAL STATUS AS A WORKING MOTHER.
9:54:27AM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR REPEATEDLY TOLD ME TO KEEP
9:54:30AM MY OPINIONS TO MYSELF AND I WITNESSED HIS CONSTANT CRITICISM
9:54:34AM DIRECTED AT WOMEN EMPLOYEES FOR OCCASIONALLY TAKING
9:54:36AM ADVANTAGE OF REMOTE WORK FOR CHILD CARE REASONS DESPITE THAT
9:54:39AM THESE WOMEN WERE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PERFORMERS.
9:54:42AM I IMAGINE THE QUESTION IN YOUR MINDS RIGHT NOW IS IF THERE
9:54:45AM WAS A BLATANT DISCRIMINATION AND HARASSMENT OCCURRING ON
9:54:48AM YOUR TEAM, WHY NOT RAISE CONCERNS TO HR AND FILE A
9:54:51AM GRIEVANCE?
9:54:52AM THE TRUTH IS I WAS FEARFUL BECAUSE I WITNESSED SOMEONE
9:54:55AM ENDURE WHAT I BELIEVED TO BE RETALIATORY CONDUCT AFTER
9:54:59AM SPEAKING OUT AND FILING A GRIEVANCE CONCERNING THE
9:55:01AM LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION.
9:55:02AM THIS FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE SHOWED ME HOW THE CITY'S
9:55:05AM LEADERSHIP TREATS AGGRIEVED EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY COME FORWARD
9:55:09AM AND TAUGHT ME HR WAS NOT A SAFE PLACE TO GO.
9:55:13AM ADDITIONALLY, AFTER CONTACTING HR REGARDING CITYWIDE POLICY,
9:55:17AM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR INSTRUCTED ME NOT TO SPEAK TO
9:55:20AM HR.
9:55:21AM BASED ON THIS EXPERIENCE, I RAISED CONCERNS APRIL 2023 TO A
9:55:24AM MEMBER OF THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE TEAM REGARDING HOW I FELT
9:55:27AM THAT WORKING MOTHERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, WERE EXPERIENCING
9:55:30AM HARASSMENT, DISCRIMINATION AND A TOXIC WORK ENVIRONMENT FROM
9:55:33AM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT'S LEADERSHIP.
9:55:35AM WHILE I WAS ASSURED THAT THE MAYOR WOULD LOOK INTO THIS AS
9:55:38AM SHE WOULD NEVER SUPPORT THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR I'M UNAWARE
9:55:41AM THAT ANY INVESTIGATION TOOK PLACE AT THAT TIME BECAUSE NO
9:55:44AM ONE EVER QUESTIONED ME FURTHER ABOUT THIS.
9:55:46AM THEREAFTER I WAS FIRED WITH NO REASON OR EXPLANATION OTHER
9:55:50AM THAN MY POSITION WAS AT WILL AND DID NOT INCLUDE CONTINUAL
9:55:56AM EMPLOYMENT EXCEPT AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY.
9:55:58AM IN FACT, THIS WAS THE SAME RESPONSE I RECEIVED AFTER
9:56:01AM INITIATING GRIEVANCE PROCEDURES BASED ON THE DISCRIMINATION
9:56:03AM I EXPERIENCED IN MY SUBSEQUENT TERMINATION.
9:56:07AM DESPITE HR OWN WRITTEN POLICY THAT --
9:56:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
9:56:11AM KEEP GOING.
9:56:11AM >> DESPITE HR'S OWN WRITTEN POLICIES THAT COMPLAINTS OF
9:56:14AM DISCRIMINATION MUST BE THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED AND THAT SUCH
9:56:17AM POLICY IS TO BE STRINGENTLY AND UNIFORMLY ENFORCED IT IS MY
9:56:20AM UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY HAS YET TO INVESTIGATE MY CLAIMS
9:56:23AM OF DISCRIMINATION AND HARASSMENT BASED ON THE LACK OF
9:56:26AM INTERVIEWS OR FURTHER INQUIRY FROM THE CITY.
9:56:28AM AFTER MY DEPARTURE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT APPROXIMATELY
9:56:31AM FIVE WOMEN RESIGNED FROM THE CITY IN QUICK SUCCESSION AND I
9:56:34AM DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CITY CONDUCTED EXIT INTERVIEWS OR
9:56:37AM OTHERWISE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE WOMEN TO SHARE
9:56:39AM THEIR CONCERNS.
9:56:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE MORE MINUTE.
9:56:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
9:56:42AM ONE MORE MINUTE.
9:56:43AM KEEP GOING.
9:56:44AM >> THEREFORE, I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT
9:56:47AM INVESTIGATION INTO THE ALLEGATIONS OF DISCRIMINATION AND
9:56:49AM HARASSMENT TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY, FAIRNESS, ACCOUNTABILITY,
9:56:53AM AND A WORKPLACE FREE FROM UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATION AND
9:56:56AM HARASSMENT.
9:56:57AM THE CITY OF TAMPA ROUTINELY TOUTS EQUITY AND DIVERSITY AND
9:57:02AM AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION WILL ENSURE SUCH COMPLAINTS ARE
9:57:05AM PROPERLY ADDRESSED.
9:57:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:07AM ALANA BRASIER AND CARROLL ANN BENNETT WILL BE THE LAST
9:57:13AM SPEAKER -- I'M SORRY, YES, THE LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.
9:57:16AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:57:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:57:20AM ALANA BRASIER.
9:57:21AM I SERVED THE CITY AS VISION ZERO COORDINATOR AND CHIEF
9:57:25AM PLANNER IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT FROM 2020 TO 2023.
9:57:28AM I LED MAJOR TRANSPORTATION EFFORTS UNDER THE MAYOR'S
9:57:31AM TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S TOMORROW INITIATIVE INCLUDING
9:57:34AM DEVELOPING THE CITY'S FIRST VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN, THE
9:57:37AM MOBILITY PLAN TAMPA MOVES AND SUCCESSFULLY SECURING TENS OF
9:57:40AM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FEDERAL GRANTS.
9:57:42AM TODAY I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FIRING OF DANNI JORGENSON,
9:57:45AM MY OWN TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE WORKING AT THE CITY, AND THE
9:57:48AM LARGER ISSUE THAT I BELIEVE HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED BY SO
9:57:51AM MANY PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR WOMEN LEFT A SMALL DIVISION OF THE
9:57:54AM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IN A SHORT SPAN OF TIME AND WHY NO ONE
9:57:57AM HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
9:57:58AM HERE'S SOME BACKGROUND.
9:57:59AM I WORKED WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING DIVISION AND
9:58:02AM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT REPORTING TO DANNI JORGENSON, THE
9:58:06AM FORMER MANAGER OF THE DIVISION WHO WAS FIRED IN JUNE 2023.
9:58:10AM BEING A MANAGER MEANT SHE WAS AT WILL AND THEREFORE COULD BE
9:58:13AM RELEASED FROM EMPLOYMENT AT ANY TIME PER CITY POLICY.
9:58:16AM STILL TO FIRE SOMEONE WITHOUT CITING ANY REASON WHY IS NOT
9:58:20AM JUSTIFIABLE.
9:58:21AM DOES NOT SEEM JUSTIFIABLE TO ME.
9:58:23AM BEFORE DANNI'S FIRING, THIS IS WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION
9:58:27AM ENGINEERING DIVISION LOOKED LIKE.
9:58:29AM THE TOP ORG CHART.
9:58:34AM THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE LESS THAN A YEAR LATER.
9:58:36AM ALL THE GRAY BOXES ARE STAFF WHO RESIGNED, RETIRED OR
9:58:39AM TRANSFERRED DIVISIONS EXCEPT FOR DANNI WHO WAS FIRED.
9:58:42AM CLEARLY SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.
9:58:45AM WHAT'S MORE WRONG IS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN ANY
9:58:48AM INVESTIGATION BY THE CITY AS TO WHY SO MANY PEOPLE LEFT.
9:58:52AM THIS IS MY OPINION BECAUSE NO ONE TALKED TO ME OR ANY OF MY
9:58:55AM OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO LEFT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED AND
9:58:58AM WHY.
9:58:58AM I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE HAD EXIT INTERVIEWS.
9:59:02AM HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN IN A HIGH-PROFILE DEPARTMENT LIKE
9:59:05AM MOBILITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE OPEN DISCRIMINATION
9:59:07AM CASES?
9:59:08AM WHY WAS NO ONE IN HR ASKING US QUESTIONS?
9:59:11AM IF THEY ASKED US QUESTIONS THEY WOULD HAVE HEARD EXPERIENCES
9:59:15AM LIKE MINE.
9:59:16AM IN MY OPINION, I EXPERIENCED THE FOLLOWING TREATMENT WHILE
9:59:18AM EMPLOYED WITH THE CITY, BEING INTENTIONALLY LEFT OUT OF KEY
9:59:22AM MEETINGS THAT WOULD HELP ME DO MY JOB EFFECTIVELY, BEING
9:59:25AM FALSELY ACCUSED OF MANIPULATING MY TIME SHEET BY NOT
9:59:28AM REPORTING TIME OFF.
9:59:29AM BEING FALSELY ACCUSED OF WORKING FROM HOME, QUOTE, MORE THAN
9:59:33AM ANYONE IN THE WHOLE CITY AND WITHOUT APPROVAL.
9:59:35AM BEING SURVEILLED BY SKIP LEVEL STAFF AND MY TEAM WHO
9:59:39AM REPORTED BACK TO THE MOBILITY DIRECTOR WHEN I WAS OR WAS NOT
9:59:41AM IN MY OFFICE TO TRY TO CATCH ME WORKING FROM HOME WITHOUT
9:59:44AM APPROVAL.
9:59:45AM BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE I'M A WORKING MOTHER AND
9:59:49AM I BELIEVE THE MOBILITY DIRECTOR ASSUMED THAT IF I WAS NOT AT
9:59:52AM MY DESK THEN I MUST BE WORKING FROM HOME WITH MY KID.
9:59:56AM SEEING MY MALE COLLEAGUE WHOSE OFFICE WAS NEXT DOOR TO MINE
10:00:00AM AND WHO IS A FATHER OF YOUNG CHILDREN NOT RECEIVE THIS LEVEL
10:00:02AM OF SCRUTINY ON WHEN HE WAS OR WAS NOT IN THE OFFICE.
10:00:05AM HEARING FROM ANOTHER MALE COLLEAGUE THAT HE RARELY SUBMITTED
10:00:08AM HIS OWN TIME SHEETS AND OFTEN WORKED FROM HOME ON FRIDAYS.
10:00:11AM BEING FALSELY ACCUSED OF STEALING MONEY FROM THE CITY BY
10:00:14AM SENDING WORK TO THE CONSULTING FIRM MY HUSBAND WORKED FOR
10:00:17AM AND I BELIEVE THIS RUMOR WAS SPREAD ABOUT ME BEHIND MY BACK.
10:00:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE.
10:00:23AM >> THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF MY TIME AT THE CITY WERE EXTREMELY
10:00:27AM DISTRESSING.
10:00:28AM I BELIEVE MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE LEADERSHIP WERE
10:00:30AM TARGETING ME AND DEVISING WAYS TO GET RID OF ME.
10:00:33AM I ALSO FELT THAT I COULD NOT GO TO HR ABOUT THESE CONCERNS
10:00:36AM BECAUSE OF THE WAY I SAW SCARLET LOPEZ RETALIATED AGAINST
10:00:40AM WHEN SHE FILED A GRIEVANCE WITH HR ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE
10:00:42AM AND MOBILITY ADMINISTRATOR.
10:00:44AM SEEING HOW SCARLET WAS TREATED MADE ME FEEL THAT HR WAS NOT
10:00:48AM A SAFE OPTION.
10:00:48AM I DID, HOWEVER, SHARE MY CONCERNS WITH CERTAIN KEY STAFF
10:00:50AM WITHIN THE CITY THAT I HAD WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH,
10:00:52AM INCLUDING STAFF IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
10:00:54AM I SHARED WHAT I WAS EXPERIENCING AND THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR
10:00:57AM EMPLOYMENT ELSEWHERE BECAUSE OF THIS.
10:01:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS.
10:01:01AM >> I WAS TOLD, NO, YOU CAN'T LEAVE, WE NEED YOU.
10:01:04AM A MONTH LATER, DANNI WAS FIRED, AND I LEARNED THAT I WAS TO
10:01:07AM BE FIRED THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
10:01:09AM THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE THE DAY DANNI WAS FIRED WAS ALSO
10:01:11AM MY LAST DAY IN THE OFFICE.
10:01:13AM I SAW MY DOCTOR THE DAY BEFORE DANNI WAS FIRED AND TOLD HER
10:01:17AM WHAT I HAD BEEN EXPERIENCING AT WORK AND HOW I FELT LIKE I
10:01:19AM COULD HARDLY BREATHE.
10:01:21AM SHE DIAGNOSED ME WITH COMPLEX PTSD DUE TO THE TOXIC WORK
10:01:23AM ENVIRONMENT AND WORKPLACE BULLYING I WAS ENDURING AND
10:01:27AM ORDERED ME TO TAKE A FEW WEEKS OFF FROM WORK, WHICH TURNED
10:01:30AM OUT TO BE MY LAST FEW WEEKS EMPLOYED BY THE CITY.
10:01:33AM THE YEAR THAT FOLLOWED WAS ONE OF ANGER, DENIAL, DESPAIR,
10:01:37AM AND GRIEF.
10:01:37AM WHAT MADE THE EXPERIENCE SO MUCH MORE PAINFUL WAS DESPITE
10:01:38AM HOW MUCH WE HAD ACCOMPLISHED AND HOW HARD WE WORKED FOR THE
10:01:41AM CITY, I BELIEVE LEADERSHIP CARED MORE ABOUT PRESERVING ITS
10:01:44AM IMAGE THAN DOING THE RIGHT THING.
10:01:45AM MADE ME FEEL LIKE MY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY DID NOT
10:01:48AM MATTER.
10:01:48AM IN MY OPINION, NO ONE IN LEADERSHIP WAS SEARCHING FOR THE
10:01:51AM TRUTH OR INTERESTED IN HOLDING ANYONE ACCOUNTABLE.
10:01:53AM IS THIS WHAT A CITY THAT VALUES ITS STAFF LOOKS LIKE?
10:01:56AM DOES THIS SHOW STAFF THAT THE CITY'S LEADERSHIP ARE LOOKING
10:02:00AM OUT FOR THEM?
10:02:01AM I REALLY LOVED MY JOB AT THE CITY.
10:02:03AM I FELT SO FULFILLED IN MY ROLE AND LOVED THE TEAM I WORKED
10:02:06AM WITH.
10:02:06AM I WOULD STILL BE THERE TODAY IF THIS HAD NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO
10:02:09AM HAPPEN.
10:02:10AM BUT THE TOXIC ENVIRONMENT AND LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
10:02:12AM LEADERSHIP MADE STAYING IMPOSSIBLE.
10:02:14AM HOW MANY OTHER STAFF DEPARTURES MUST IT TAKE FOR PEOPLE IN
10:02:17AM LEADERSHIP TO DO SOMETHING?
10:02:18AM THE CITY IS NOTHING WITHOUT ITS STAFF, THOSE HARDWORKING
10:02:21AM INDIVIDUALS WHO SHOW UP EVERY DAY TO GET THINGS DONE.
10:02:24AM THEY DESERVE BETTER AND OUR CITY DESERVES BETTER.
10:02:27AM WE WILL NEVER REACH OUR FULL POTENTIAL AS A CITY IF WE DON'T
10:02:30AM TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE.
10:02:32AM THANK YOU.
10:02:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:33AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT, YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER ON ITEM NUMBER
10:02:35AM 1.
10:02:43AM >> HI.
10:02:43AM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:02:45AM I WAS A UNION REP FOR MANY YEARS.
10:02:51AM DUE TO THAT EXPERIENCE, I UNDERSTAND HOW BRAVE THESE WOMEN
10:02:53AM ARE TO COME FORWARD AND TESTIFY PUBLICLY ON THE RECORD IN A
10:02:59AM RECORDED VENUE THAT CAN BE BROADCAST ANYWHERE.
10:03:03AM IT'S AN AMAZING FEAT OF BRAVERY.
10:03:06AM I SAW PEOPLE THAT WORK ON A REGULAR BASIS WOULD COME TO ME
10:03:10AM ABOUT ISSUES, BUT THEY WERE AFRAID TO FILE A GRIEVANCE, THEY
10:03:14AM WERE AFRAID TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY
10:03:18AM WORRIED ABOUT RETALIATION IN A HUNDRED LITTLE PETTY WAYS
10:03:21AM THAT WOULD MAKE THEIR LIFE MORE MISERABLE.
10:03:24AM THEY WOULD FREQUENTLY ASK ME TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
10:03:27AM WITHOUT BRINGING THEIR NAME INTO IT BECAUSE THEY WERE
10:03:29AM AFRAID.
10:03:30AM AND THE ONES WHO STOOD UP, A LOT OF THEM DID SUFFER FOR THAT
10:03:35AM BRAVERY AND FOR THAT HONESTY.
10:03:38AM I ALSO KNOW THROUGH MY EXPERIENCE AS A UNION REP THAT NOT
10:03:41AM EVERYTHING CAN GO TO THE EEOC.
10:03:44AM IT HAS TO FALL UNDER A CERTAIN PURVIEW AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS
10:03:48AM -- YOU CAN BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST OR YOU CAN BE HARMED
10:03:53AM THAT IS NOT BECAUSE OF ONE OF THE PURVIEWS OF THE EEOC.
10:03:58AM SO THAT'S NOT REALLY THE ANSWER.
10:03:59AM I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE TALK TO ME.
10:04:05AM THEY TRUST MY DISCRETION.
10:04:07AM PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE CITY, WHO USED TO WORK FOR THE CITY.
10:04:10AM AND I HEAR WHAT HAPPENS.
10:04:13AM I HEARD THAT SOMETIMES THEY ARE BASICALLY ORDERED TO DO
10:04:17AM SOMETHING THAT IS UNETHICAL AND THEY KNOW THAT THEIR JOB IS
10:04:20AM ON THE LINE IF THEY DON'T DO IT.
10:04:23AM I WILL NEVER REVEAL THEIR NAMES AND THAT'S WHY THEY TALK TO
10:04:27AM ME.
10:04:27AM SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:04:29AM THERE NEEDS TO BE EXIT INTERVIEWS.
10:04:31AM THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTIGATION.
10:04:33AM THERE WERE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT
10:04:35AM WERE AGGRESSIVELY INVESTIGATED AND PURSUED, BUT THAT DOESN'T
10:04:40AM SEEM TO HAPPEN -- IT'S NOT AN EVEN APPLICATION ACROSS THE
10:04:44AM BOARD.
10:04:44AM IF YOU'RE NOT HAVING EXIT INTERVIEWS, IF YOU'RE NOT HAVING
10:04:48AM INVESTIGATIONS, NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO TO COURT AND FILE
10:04:50AM A LAWSUIT.
10:04:52AM THE TOLL THAT SORT OF THING TAKES ON YOU MENTALLY,
10:04:56AM EMOTIONALLY, FINANCIALLY ON YOUR FAMILY, A LOT OF TIMES THEY
10:04:59AM JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT WORTH IT.
10:05:01AM THEY ARE JUST GOING TO CHALK IT UP, ACCEPT THEIR LOSSES AND
10:05:06AM MOVE ON.
10:05:07AM SO, PLEASE, EMPLOYEES, TAKE WHAT THEY HAVE SAID SERIOUSLY
10:05:11AM AND UNDERSTAND FOR EACH PERSON WHO IS BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO
10:05:14AM WHAT THOSE TWO WOMEN DID TODAY, THERE'S PROBABLY TEN PEOPLE
10:05:17AM OR MORE WHO HAVE DECIDED THE PRICE IS TOO HIGH TO BE THAT
10:05:20AM BRAVE AND THAT HEROIC.
10:05:22AM THANK YOU.
10:05:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:05:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD WE ASK THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT, LIKE, BUNCH
10:05:29AM OF PEOPLE DON'T COME IN WHILE SOMEONE IS SPEAKING?
10:05:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BRING THEM IN NOW.
10:05:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WAS A LITTLE HARD TO FOLLOW.
10:05:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT EVERYBODY?
10:05:45AM MR. REMER IS HERE.
10:06:02AM SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE AND STUDENTS FROM AMSTERDAM
10:06:05AM UNIVERSITY OF APPLIED SCIENCES AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF
10:06:07AM STUDENTS FROM HCC, VISITING US TODAY IN CHAMBERS.
10:06:10AM PLEASE STAND AND BE RECOGNIZED.
10:06:12AM WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
10:06:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:06:17AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:06:23AM THEY WILL BE OBSERVING AND HANGING OUT WITH US FOR A LITTLE
10:06:25AM BIT.
10:06:26AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, THIS IS YOUR MOTION.
10:06:28AM I'LL START OFF WITH YOU.
10:06:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANTED TO SAY --
10:06:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
10:06:34AM FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING.
10:06:37AM IT'S HARD TO PUT THE GENIE BACK IN THE BOTTLE.
10:06:40AM DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT.
10:06:42AM I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT YOU SHOULD AVOID ANY
10:06:45AM DISCUSSION PARTICULAR TO MATTERS AT A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE
10:06:48AM THE CITY IS LIKELY TO BE A PARTY OF LITIGATION WITHOUT
10:06:50AM CONCURRENCE OF COUNSEL AND CERTAINLY THAT MEANS THE CITY
10:06:54AM ATTORNEY IN THIS CASE.
10:06:55AM IN TERMS OF SPECIFICS.
10:07:00AM GENERALITIES, SUBJECT OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION, CERTAINLY
10:07:04AM THAT'S COUNCIL'S PURVIEW.
10:07:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:07:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, AND I CAN'T THANK ENOUGH THE TWO
10:07:12AM FORMER EMPLOYEES FOR COMING BEFORE US.
10:07:15AM IT'S AN INCREDIBLY BRAVE THING TO DO.
10:07:18AM THE REASON WHY THERE AREN'T MORE IS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
10:07:25AM AFRAID BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW IT WILL AFFECT THEIR
10:07:28AM CAREER.
10:07:28AM IT'S ON CAMERA.
10:07:29AM THERE IS A REPORTER IN THE BACK.
10:07:32AM HOW WILL IT AFFECT THEIR FUTURE EMPLOYMENT BY COMING TO A
10:07:35AM MEETING LIKE THIS?
10:07:36AM I'M ALWAYS CHALLENGED BY THE ADMINISTRATION, WELL, GIVE ME
10:07:40AM EXAMPLES, GIVE ME EXAMPLES.
10:07:41AM WELL, THERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES RIGHT THERE.
10:07:43AM I'VE HAD AT LEAST A HUNDRED CALLS LIKE THIS.
10:07:45AM AND MANY OF THEM I'M IN TEARS LIKE WE ALL FELT JUST NOW
10:07:49AM BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO HELP THEM.
10:07:52AM WHEN I CALL TO ASK TO GET HELP, I'M TOLD, WELL, THE EMPLOYEE
10:07:56AM HAS TO CALL US AND HAS TO REPORT IT.
10:07:58AM I SAY THE EMPLOYEE IS AFRAID OF RETALIATION.
10:08:02AM WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO?
10:08:03AM WELL, THEY HAVE TO CONTACT US.
10:08:05AM IF THEY DON'T CONTACT US, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
10:08:08AM WE NEED A THIRD-PARTY CASE.
10:08:11AM SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA MENTIONED THE ECONOMIC
10:08:16AM DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE, THAT'S MY PASSION AREA.
10:08:18AM I SPOKE TO THOSE EMPLOYEES ALMOST EVERY DAY.
10:08:21AM I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM MANY, MANY TIMES SINCE THEY LEFT.
10:08:26AM I FOLLOWED THEM THROUGH THE ONE OR TWO YEARS OF SUFFERING
10:08:29AM THAT THEY HAD.
10:08:31AM I KNOW IN DETAIL WHY THEY LEFT AND I REPORTED THAT TO THE
10:08:34AM ADMINISTRATION.
10:08:35AM I'VE REPORTED IT TO HR AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:08:38AM BUT THE SAME THING.
10:08:39AM THEY DON'T TO COME FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT IT.
10:08:41AM BY THE WAY, THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE MEETING WHERE THE
10:08:45AM ADMINISTRATION MET TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BLAME IT ON
10:08:47AM CITY COUNCIL.
10:08:48AM THEY TRIED TO FABRICATE AND EXCUSE TO BLAME CITY COUNCIL,
10:08:52AM WHICH IS NOT TRUE.
10:08:53AM THERE'S PLENTY OF DOCUMENTED REASONS WHY THEY LEFT.
10:08:56AM THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T LOOK AT ANY INDIVIDUAL.
10:08:59AM I'M NOT GIVING INDIVIDUAL EXAMPLES BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL
10:09:02AM FOR LITIGATION.
10:09:03AM SOME OF THEM MAY END UP IN LITIGATION, PLUS I DON'T WANT TO
10:09:06AM IDENTIFY PEOPLE.
10:09:08AM THERE ARE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING.
10:09:10AM I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF US EVER INTERFACE WITH ANYBODY IN
10:09:14AM MOBILITY.
10:09:15AM WE AS CITY COUNCIL DON'T INTERFACE WITH MOST POLICE OFFICERS
10:09:20AM OR FIREFIGHTERS.
10:09:22AM WE DON'T INTERFACE WITH MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE LIST.
10:09:26AM AND THE PROBLEM IS WHETHER THESE ISSUES WERE CREATED UNDER
10:09:31AM THIS ADMINISTRATION OR THE LAST ADMINISTRATION AND THEY HAVE
10:09:34AM INHERITED THEM, WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO RESOLVE
10:09:37AM THEM.
10:09:37AM IF THE MAYOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION COLLABORATE WITH CITY
10:09:39AM COUNCIL TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM AND HELP PEOPLE FIGURE OUT
10:09:42AM HOW TO SOLVE THIS, THEN IT'S NOT ABOUT BLAMING ANYBODY.
10:09:46AM I'M NOT UP HERE SAYING OTHER THE ADMINISTRATION PROMOTES
10:09:49AM DISCRIMINATION.
10:09:49AM I'M SAYING WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIX IT.
10:09:52AM THANK YOU.
10:09:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK AND MIRANDA.
10:09:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:09:55AM I COMPLETELY AGREE.
10:09:59AM I THINK WE NEED TO USE A THIRD PARTY.
10:10:02AM I DON'T THINK THE FDLE IS THE PROPER PLACE TO GO.
10:10:07AM I THINK THEY SOLELY DEAL WITH CRIMINAL THINGS, AND THIS IS
10:10:14AM NOT A CRIMINAL ISSUE.
10:10:17AM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE NEED A THIRD PARTY.
10:10:20AM BUT I DO BELIEVE -- AND MR. SHELBY CAN HELP ME HERE -- THAT
10:10:26AM WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOLD INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS, THE
10:10:33AM CITY COUNCIL DOES.
10:10:34AM I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE NEED TO GO NEXT.
10:10:37AM I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE
10:10:41AM CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE WHO FEEL AS THOUGH THEY HAVE NOT
10:10:47AM BEEN TREATED EQUITABLY.
10:10:49AM AND THIS IS THE PART THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I GET
10:10:53AM THE SAME PHONE CALLS.
10:10:54AM I TALK TO QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ON THAT LIST I'VE SPOKEN TO
10:10:57AM ABOUT WHY THEY HAVE LEFT AND EVERYONE IS AFRAID TO COME
10:11:00AM FORWARD.
10:11:01AM EVERYONE IS AFRAID TO TALK.
10:11:04AM I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE ME PERSONALLY, IF I'VE
10:11:08AM DONE SOMETHING WRONG OR SOMETHING IS WRONG IN THE CITY, I
10:11:11AM WANT TO FIX IT.
10:11:12AM IF YOU TELL ME DO SOMETHING WRONG, I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT
10:11:17AM THAT AND CHANGE MYSELF.
10:11:19AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, OH, WE'RE NEVER WRONG.
10:11:27AM I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T AS A CITY INTERNALIZE THINGS WE
10:11:31AM MIGHT NOT DO RIGHT AND FIX IT.
10:11:33AM TO ME, THAT'S WHY I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AN INDEPENDENT
10:11:36AM INVESTIGATION.
10:11:36AM MR. SHELBY, IF YOU COULD REMIND US OF WHAT OUR ACTUAL POWER
10:11:40AM IS THERE ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER, THAT WOULD BE LOVELY.
10:11:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS.
10:11:51AM WHICH REALLY HASN'T BEEN INVOKED IN ANY FORM OR FASHION IN I
10:12:00AM DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, IF EVER.
10:12:01AM I CAN COME BACK AND TELL YOU THAT.
10:12:11AM I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE MEETING.
10:12:12AM I'LL FIND IT IN JUST A MINUTE.
10:12:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:12:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:12:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:17AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN INVESTIGATION, HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S NOT
10:12:23AM CRIMINAL?
10:12:23AM NO ONE CAN ANSWER THAT.
10:12:28AM WE'RE GOING TO HIRE A THIRD PARTY, PAY MONEY, SO THEY ARE
10:12:36AM GOING TO SAY A THIRD PARTY -- WHOEVER WANTED, WANTED
10:12:40AM WRITTEN, OH, WE PAID, THAT'S WHY WE GOT IT.
10:12:43AM YOU'VE GOT TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING.
10:12:44AM THAT'S WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY NOW.
10:12:47AM IT'S SO FAR APART, SO TORN ON THE EDGES THAT NOBODY KNOWS
10:12:51AM WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON, PERIOD AND THAT'S HOW THEY WANT
10:12:53AM IT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.
10:12:56AM INVESTIGATION FROM THE TOP AT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW
10:13:00AM ENFORCEMENT, SEE IF THERE IS CRIMINAL FROM ALL OF US.
10:13:05AM MENTIONED TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, MENTIONED OTHERS.
10:13:08AM I WANT A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION, INCLUDING ON ME.
10:13:13AM TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:13:16AM THIS GOVERNMENT CANNOT STAND EVERY WEEK THE SAME THING IN A
10:13:19AM DIFFERENT FORM.
10:13:22AM I WANT CLARITY.
10:13:22AM THE PUBLIC DESERVES IT.
10:13:24AM IF THE MEDIA IS NOT REPORTING IT, THAT'S NOT MY FAULT,
10:13:29AM THAT'S THE MEDIA'S FAULT.
10:13:33AM NOT OUR FAULT, I SHOULD SAY.
10:13:36AM SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR?
10:13:36AM PEOPLE THAT GOT TERMINATED.
10:13:40AM I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM.
10:13:42AM I DON'T KNOW WHY, I GOT WHAT THE TWO LADIES SAID AND I
10:13:46AM UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:13:47AM WHAT WAS THE PROCESS OF -- THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH SOME
10:13:50AM PROCESS TO GET TO WHOEVER MADE THE DECISION AT THE END.
10:13:53AM WAS THAT PROCESS FRAUD?
10:13:55AM WAS IT LEGAL?
10:13:57AM WAS IT WITH INTENT?
10:14:00AM WAS IT RETALIATION?
10:14:01AM WAS IT DISCRIMINATION?
10:14:03AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:14:07AM I DON'T THINK ANYONE KNOWS HERE.
10:14:11AM LET'S START WITH THAT.
10:14:20AM INVESTIGATE EVERYBODY.
10:14:21AM I MEAN, YOU THINK I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT FORMER COUNCIL
10:14:27AM MEMBERS THAT I RAN FOR, AGAINST, WHATEVER, THAT I'LL RUN
10:14:30AM WITH OR AGAINST, NO.
10:14:32AM IT'S A PROCESS THAT IS DO BY CLARITY.
10:14:39AM THOSE COMPUTERS AND INVESTIGATION DO NOT MAKE MISTAKE.
10:14:42AM HAND COUNTED AND VERIFIED DIFFERENT WAYS.
10:14:44AM LET'S CLEAR THAT OUT.
10:14:45AM NOW YOU ARE LEFT WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT LEFT THE OFFICE.
10:14:49AM THE YELLOW PIECE OF PAPER I SAW, ALL CONTACTED BY WHOEVER
10:14:52AM DOING AN INVESTIGATION AND FIND OUT WHY THEY LEFT.
10:14:56AM I GUARANTEE YOU WE TAKE PART OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY, US, THE
10:15:02AM SEVEN OF US.
10:15:08AM I WANT CLARITY.
10:15:09AM I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, NOT THIS OR THAT.
10:15:13AM I WANT THE WHOLE THING LOOKED AT.
10:15:15AM THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT, THAT THE PUBLIC IS AT EASE OR VERY
10:15:20AM DISAPPOINTED, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, SIX,
10:15:25AM SEVEN YEARS.
10:15:26AM YOU CAN GO TO THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION IF YOU WANT BUT I'M
10:15:30AM NOT GOING TO PAY A THIRD PARTY TO TELL ME THAT I'M PAYING,
10:15:34AM WHICH WAY THEY WANT TO GO.
10:15:35AM NOT THAT IT HAPPENS THAT WAY, UP HERE, SOMEBODY, OH, YOU
10:15:39AM PAID THEM, YOU WANT THE RESULT YOU GOT.
10:15:42AM I DON'T PAY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
10:15:44AM THAT'S PAID BY TAXPAYERS AND ALL OF US.
10:15:46AM I JUST WANT CLARITY.
10:15:51AM I WANT THIS BEHIND AND LET'S MARCH FORWARD.
10:15:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, YOU HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE
10:15:58AM QUESTION?
10:15:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, I DO.
10:16:01AM SECTION 2.14 INVESTIGATIONS.
10:16:04AM PLEASE NOTE THE LANGUAGE.
10:16:06AM IN THE EXERCISE OF ITS LEGISLATIVE POWERS, THE CITY COUNCIL
10:16:11AM OR ANY SPECIAL COMMITTEE THEREOF SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO
10:16:14AM CONDUCT SUCH INVESTIGATIONS AND HOLD SUCH HEARINGS AS THE
10:16:18AM COUNCIL SHALL DEEM NECESSARY, EXPEDIENT AND PROPER AND SHALL
10:16:22AM HAVE THE POWER TO COMPEL THE ATTENDANCE OF WITNESSES AND THE
10:16:26AM PRODUCTION OF EVIDENCE BY ISSUANCE OF ALL FORMS OF SUBPOENA
10:16:30AM AND SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO PUNISH FOR CONTEMPT BY FINE NOT
10:16:35AM EXCEEDING $100 AND EACH DAY CONTINUE SHALL BE DEEMED A
10:16:39AM SEPARATE OFFENSE.
10:16:40AM I ALSO WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION SECTION 4.01,
10:16:44AM THE MAYOR.
10:16:46AM IT SAYS SHALL BE A MAYOR IN WHOM ALL EXECUTIVE POWER OF THE
10:16:49AM CITY SHALL BE VESTED AND WHO SHALL BE THE ADMINISTRATIVE
10:16:52AM HEAD OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
10:16:54AM MOVING ON IT, IT SAYS THE MAYOR SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE
10:16:57AM PEOPLE OF THE CITY FOR THE PROPER ADMINISTRATION OF THE
10:16:59AM AFFAIRS OF THE CITY AND TO THAT, THE MAYOR'S POWERS AND
10:17:03AM DUTIES SHALL INCLUDE AND NUMBER THREE STATES, THE EXERCISE
10:17:08AM OF DIRECT CONTROL AND SUPERVISION OVER ALL DEPARTMENTS AND
10:17:11AM DIVISIONS OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
10:17:19AM AND NUMBER FOUR, EXCEPT AS HEREIN OTHERWISE EXPRESSED
10:17:24AM APPOINTMENT AND REMOVAL OF COMPENSATION OF ALL OFFICERS AND
10:17:28AM EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY THE EMPLOYMENT -- GOES ON FROM THERE.
10:17:31AM ANOTHER LINE THAT I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I HAD.
10:17:36AM NUMBER ONE, THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF ALL LAWS,
10:17:40AM ORDINANCES, CONTRACTS, AND FRANCHISES.
10:17:44AM SO WITH REGARD TO INVESTIGATIONS, THERE IS -- IN THE OPENING
10:17:53AM SENTENCE, IT SAYS IN THE EXERCISE OF ITS LEGISLATIVE POWERS.
10:17:56AM JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED
10:18:01AM TODAY, THERE ARE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS AS WELL.
10:18:04AM I'M CERTAINLY NOT AN EMPLOYMENT LAWYER, BUT IF IT'S AN
10:18:09AM EMPLOYMENT ISSUE, IT IS VERY -- THERE ARE LAWYERS WHO
10:18:13AM SPECIALIZE IN THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
10:18:14AM AND, THEREFORE, I JUST WANTED COUNCIL TO REMAIN MINDFUL OF
10:18:22AM ITS ABILITY TO HOLD THESE SUCH INVESTIGATIONS WHICH, BY THE
10:18:29AM WAY, I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL, COME UP BEFORE, THE
10:18:33AM ISSUE OF INVESTIGATIONS HAS COME UP, THOUGH THE CHARTER DOES
10:18:37AM PROVIDE FOR SUBPOENA POWER, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE THE
10:18:41AM ABILITY TO ISSUE SUBPOENAS AND THAT BROUGHT IN THE SUBJECT
10:18:44AM WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY OF HOW SUCH A PROCESS COULD EVEN TAKE
10:18:48AM PLACE, EVEN THOUGH THE CHARTER EXPRESSLY SAYS IT, THE
10:18:51AM LOGISTICS OF IT AND THE MECHANISMS OF IT WOULD RAISE ISSUES
10:18:54AM THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.
10:18:56AM BY THE WAY, ONE OTHER LAST THING TO REMIND YOU, COUNCIL,
10:19:03AM ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL DOES IS NOT ONLY SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC
10:19:07AM MEETINGS LAW, IT'S ALSO SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW
10:19:10AM AND THOSE ARE THINGS WHICH WE HAVE TO COMPLY.
10:19:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND COUNCIL MEMBER
10:19:15AM -- YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, ME AND HURTAK.
10:19:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY I THINK MADE REFERENCE TO THIS.
10:19:25AM THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD GO WITH
10:19:27AM THIS, IF ANYWHERE.
10:19:29AM THE QUESTION ON WHY SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT THE MOBILITY
10:19:34AM DEPARTMENT IS A REASONABLE, VERY REASONABLE QUESTION TO ASK,
10:19:37AM OF COURSE.
10:19:38AM I WORRY THAT IF THERE IS -- AND I'M UNSURE IF THERE IS,
10:19:41AM ONGOING CLAIMS, REPRESENTATION BY COUNCIL THAT ARE LITIGATED
10:19:45AM IN COURT RIGHT NOW, IF WE WOULD BE HAVING CONCURRENT
10:19:48AM INQUIRIES ON THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AS A LAWYER I
10:19:52AM THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
10:19:55AM BUT THE IDEA OF WHY SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT MOBILITY, THAT
10:19:59AM IS OBVIOUSLY A REAL QUESTION.
10:20:02AM THAT IS A REAL ISSUE OF CONCERN AND ONE THAT WE COULD LOOK
10:20:05AM AT.
10:20:06AM I WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:20:09AM I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
10:20:11AM WE HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY TREAD VERY CAREFULLY.
10:20:13AM FRANKLY, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF THESE TWO WOMEN AREN'T
10:20:18AM REPRESENTED, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO THEM PERSONALLY ON CERTAIN
10:20:23AM THINGS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY FEEL, THEIR OPINION OR EFFECT ON
10:20:30AM THIS PROCESS.
10:20:31AM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
10:20:32AM I'VE HAD TALKS WITH PEOPLE WHO LEFT THIS CITY, INCLUDING
10:20:36AM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, ET CETERA, PRIVATE TALKS AND PEOPLE
10:20:41AM LEAVE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY REASONS.
10:20:44AM REASONS TO DO WITH PEOPLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:20:47AM REASONS TO DO WITH PEOPLE IN CITY COUNCIL.
10:20:49AM REASONS TO DO WITH FAMILY.
10:20:51AM REASONS TO DO WITH MANY, MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
10:20:53AM A WHOLE LOT OF REASONS.
10:20:56AM THE REASON WHY I'M DEFERENTIAL TO THESE TWO WOMEN WHO CAME
10:21:00AM HERE AND SPOKE IS BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO STAND
10:21:04AM UP AND SPEAK IN A PUBLIC FORUM.
10:21:07AM I RESPECT THAT.
10:21:08AM I DO.
10:21:08AM I RESPECT THAT NO MATTER WHO IT IS.
10:21:10AM BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT NOT LONG AGO SOMEBODY ELSE STOOD UP
10:21:15AM AND SHE WAS ATTACKED.
10:21:16AM AND SHE WAS MOCKED.
10:21:18AM SHE WAS ATTACKED LIKE HELL, POLITICALLY BY PEOPLE FOR
10:21:23AM STANDING UP.
10:21:23AM AND I GAVE HER RESPECT.
10:21:25AM AND I'M GOING TO GIVE THESE TWO WOMEN IN HERE RESPECT AS
10:21:28AM WELL.
10:21:28AM THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
10:21:30AM AGAIN, I'M GLAD TO TAKE ON SOME CERTAIN CONVERSATIONS ON
10:21:33AM THIS.
10:21:33AM THE FACT THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS LOST SO MANY PEOPLE, THAT'S
10:21:36AM SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT.
10:21:38AM IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL -- ARE ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS THAT
10:21:42AM EMPLOYEES NEED WHO HAVE CONCERNS, I'M GLAD TO TALK ABOUT
10:21:44AM THAT.
10:21:45AM I AM.
10:21:46AM I'M GLAD, BY THE WAY, THAT SOMEBODY MENTIONED, BECAUSE IT
10:21:49AM SLIPPED MY MIND, THAT THESE FOLKS AREN'T IN THE UNION.
10:21:52AM SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING, ANOTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION
10:21:55AM COULD BE.
10:21:55AM I'M GLAD TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
10:21:57AM I AM.
10:21:57AM BUT, AGAIN, THE LEVEL OF RESPECT THAT I GIVE THESE WOMEN IS
10:22:01AM A LEVEL OF RESPECT I WISH THIS OTHER WOMAN WOULD HAVE HAD BY
10:22:06AM EVERYBODY -- EVERYBODY.
10:22:07AM THANK YOU.
10:22:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:22:08AM I WISH WE HAD A HAPPY WORK ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE WHEN I WAKE
10:22:12AM UP IN THE MORNING I LOVE TAMPA, I LOVE MY JOB AND I LOVE
10:22:16AM CITY GOVERNMENT.
10:22:17AM I LOVE COMING HERE, ALTHOUGH SOME DAYS ARE HARD.
10:22:19AM WHEN I LOOK AT THE LIST OF INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE LEFT, I
10:22:23AM HAVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR THEM AND TWO OF THEM ARE HERE.
10:22:27AM I CAN ONLY HOPE TO BE LIKE THEM BECAUSE I ADMIRE THESE
10:22:30AM PEOPLE.
10:22:31AM YOU MENTIONED MOODY.
10:22:32AM YOU MENTIONED NICOLE TRAVIS, ALL THESE PEOPLE ON THE LIST,
10:22:36AM THEY ARE SUPERSTARS.
10:22:37AM I'M JUST A CITY COUNCIL PERSON.
10:22:38AM I LOOK UP TO THESE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL
10:22:41AM BRILLIANT.
10:22:42AM I SEE HOW THEY WORK.
10:22:44AM I SEE WHAT THEY DO.
10:22:45AM SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND CITY OF TAMPA WAS, IS, VERY
10:22:50AM LUCKY TO HAVE HAD PEOPLE.
10:22:51AM YOU DON'T FIND PEOPLE LIKE THIS.
10:22:53AM VERY HARD TO FIND PEOPLE OF THIS CALIBER.
10:22:56AM IT'S A SHAME THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.
10:22:59AM PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HAPPY IN THEIR WORK ENVIRONMENT
10:23:02AM BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY ARE GIVING THEIR ALL.
10:23:05AM THEY ARE WORKING HARD FOR THE PAYCHECK, FOR THE FAMILY, FOR
10:23:08AM THEIR LIVELIHOOD.
10:23:10AM THEY SHOULD BE TREATED WITH RESPECT.
10:23:12AM IF THERE ARE ISSUES AS COUNCILMAN VIERA MENTIONED, IF ONE
10:23:15AM DEPARTMENT IS SEEING A MASS EXODUS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
10:23:18AM NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
10:23:19AM IT'S UNHEALTHY.
10:23:21AM I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD TOXICS.
10:23:23AM I GUESS YOU COULD.
10:23:24AM THAT'S MORE OF A MODERN TERM USED IN WORK ENVIRONMENTS.
10:23:27AM I THINK THERE'S MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
10:23:29AM I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT A THIRD PARTY LOOKING INTO THESE THINGS
10:23:34AM AND JUST PUT IT OUT THERE.
10:23:36AM AGAIN, WE'VE LOST A LOT OF VERY, VERY GOOD PEOPLE.
10:23:40AM IF I WERE THE BOSS, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I'D HIRE, IN A
10:23:43AM CORPORATION, IN PUBLIC, THEY ARE THE BEST.
10:23:45AM LOOK AT THEIR RESUM S.
10:23:48AM IT'S A SHAME IT'S GOTTEN TO THIS.
10:23:51AM I'M GLAD AND RESPECT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE AND
10:23:53AM SPOKEN UP, BUT IF IT'S ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, IT'S BAD ENOUGH.
10:23:57AM WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE A LIST LIKE THAT
10:23:59AM AND SOME REPORTED TO THE CRA.
10:24:01AM SOME REPORTED TO THE MAYOR.
10:24:02AM IT'S A MIXED BAG, BUT ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE
10:24:06AM THAT IT'S A HUGE LOSS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT THEY ARE NOT
10:24:10AM HERE.
10:24:10AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:24:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:24:13AM SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHIEF BENNETT.
10:24:25AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
10:24:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:24:27AM WERE ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ON THAT LIST, DID YOU DO EXIT
10:24:33AM INTERVIEWS?
10:24:34AM DID THE CITY OF TAMPA DO EXIT INTERVIEWS WITH ANY OF THOSE
10:24:37AM FOLKS ON THE LIST?
10:24:38AM >>JOHN BENNETT: SO, NOBODY CAME THROUGH MY DOOR EITHER
10:24:43AM PRE-LEAVING OR AFTER LEAVING FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
10:24:48AM I DID ASK HR ABOUT DOING EXIT INTERVIEWS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
10:24:51AM ALSO, OF COURSE, SOME OF THE POSITIONS WORKED THROUGH THAT
10:24:56AM PORTFOLIO WHO ALSO DO EXIT INTERVIEWS WITH THE MAYOR.
10:25:00AM SO I CAN'T ANSWER COMPLETELY WHO HAD ONE AND WHO DID NOT
10:25:03AM HAVE ONE.
10:25:04AM I KNOW SOME WERE DONE, BUT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING COMPLETELY
10:25:07AM OF HOW MANY WOULD OR WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THEM.
10:25:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND IN AN EXIT INTERVIEW, WHAT WOULD BE DONE
10:25:14AM WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE LEARNED?
10:25:17AM >>JOHN BENNETT: OBVIOUSLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CONTENT IS.
10:25:19AM BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR CONTINUOUS
10:25:23AM IMPROVEMENT, WHETHER IT'S INDIVIDUAL BASIS OR SYSTEMIC
10:25:27AM BASIS.
10:25:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND WOULD ANSWERS IN AN EXIT INTERVIEW BE
10:25:33AM MADE AVAILABLE, NOT SPECIFIC TO A PERSON BUT MAYBE A REPORT
10:25:38AM SAYING, YOU KNOW, TEN PEOPLE LEFT IN THIS QUARTER AND THESE
10:25:42AM WERE THE ISSUES THEY MENTIONED IN LEAVING?
10:25:45AM >>JOHN BENNETT: IT'S POSSIBLE, DEPENDING ON THE PORTFOLIO.
10:25:49AM I MEAN, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC
10:25:54AM SAFETY, UNIQUE BRANCHES, GENERAL EMPLOYEE DEPARTMENTS, ALL
10:25:57AM THAT IS COALESCED TYPICALLY AT THE SENIOR STAFF MEETINGS.
10:26:02AM THINGS THAT ARE ROUTINE, REPEATABLE ARE DISCUSSED FOR,
10:26:06AM AGAIN, CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
10:26:08AM SO THOSE THINGS DO WORK UP AND DOWN THE ORGANIZATION.
10:26:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER
10:26:15AM DOING EXIT INTERVIEWS, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE
10:26:18AM SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD PUT FORWARD GOING
10:26:24AM FORWARD, REQUIRING EXIT INTERVIEWS, AND THEN SOMEHOW
10:26:28AM COALESCING THAT DATA SO THAT ALL OF US CAN SEE IT, INCLUDING
10:26:34AM EMPLOYEES WHO ARE STILL HERE.
10:26:35AM BASICALLY WHAT I HEARD TODAY IS THAT -- AND IT'S
10:26:39AM DISAPPOINTING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION -- AND THE SAME AS
10:26:44AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:26:45AM I HEARD FROM QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.
10:26:46AM I KNOW WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE LIST LEFT AND IT WAS THE
10:26:50AM ADMINISTRATION.
10:26:50AM SO WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER.
10:26:52AM WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT WE AREN'T LOOKING TO DO BETTER.
10:26:58AM IT'S SORT OF LIKE, WELL, IF FOLKS DON'T WANT TO FALL IN LINE
10:27:02AM WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, NNH, WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP THEM.
10:27:08AM IT'S JUST DISAPPOINTING THAT WE HAVE MANAGERS AND OTHERS WHO
10:27:11AM AREN'T GIVEN ANY REASON OTHER THAN "YOU ARE AN AT-WILL
10:27:16AM EMPLOYEE."
10:27:17AM I THINK THAT'S WRONG.
10:27:18AM I THINK PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW WHY THEY WERE TRANSMITTED
10:27:22AM OTHER THAN YOU ARE AT WILL.
10:27:25AM THAT'S DISAPPOINTING.
10:27:26AM IT ALSO ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO NOT APPLY TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:27:29AM IF WE WANT TO BE A BETTER CITY, WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE
10:27:33AM DIVERSITY OF OPINION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.
10:27:38AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I AGREE.
10:27:39AM I THINK ALL OF WHAT YOU SAID IS VERY WELCOME IN THE
10:27:41AM ORGANIZATION.
10:27:42AM I KNOW THAT OUR RECRUITING AND SELECTION PROCESS IS PRETTY
10:27:45AM FULL ON A REGULAR BASIS.
10:27:47AM I WELCOME EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE EVERY OTHER MONDAY
10:27:50AM PERSONALLY.
10:27:51AM I GO OUT TO THEIR ORIENTATION AND I TELL THEM IF YOU ARE
10:27:56AM AGGRIEVED ANYTIME IN YOUR CAREER, MY DOOR AND MY
10:27:59AM ACCESSIBILITY IS ALWAYS THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU COULD
10:28:02AM GET TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF THE ORGANIZATION, WHETHER YOU
10:28:05AM ARE IN THE UNION OR NOT, YOU ARE WELCOME THROUGH MY DOOR TO
10:28:09AM TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON SO I CAN REVERSE, UNDERSTAND WHAT IS
10:28:12AM NEEDED OR NECESSARY.
10:28:14AM AGAIN, FROM AN ORGANIZATIONAL OR AN INDIVIDUAL POINT OF
10:28:16AM VIEW.
10:28:18AM I DO THAT.
10:28:19AM I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
10:28:21AM EMPLOYEES FEEL WELCOME AND SAFE THROUGHOUT THEIR JOURNEY AND
10:28:26AM OPPORTUNISTIC AS WELL.
10:28:27AM SOME PEOPLE ARE OFFERED THESE INTERVIEWS AND THEY OPT OUT
10:28:31AM FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY MIGHT HAVE.
10:28:32AM HR HAS TO WORK INSIDE THREE PARAMETERS.
10:28:37AM CIVIL SERVICE RULES, CITY POLICY, AND, OF COURSE, THE
10:28:41AM COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS NEGOTIATED AND PROMULGATED
10:28:44AM THROUGH, OF COURSE, CITY COUNCIL.
10:28:46AM SO THEY WORK WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS.
10:28:48AM ANYTHING OUTSIDE THAT FALLS INTO DUE PROCESS.
10:28:51AM THERE IS AN EXTENSIVE GRIEVANCE PROCESS EVEN FOR
10:28:54AM NON-BARGAINING EMPLOYEES.
10:28:55AM AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS A CIVIL SERVICE BOARD
10:28:59AM THAT'S PUT TOGETHER OF FOLKS THAT ARE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
10:29:03AM IT'S AN EXISTENTIAL KIND OF SYSTEM AND THEN WE HAVE
10:29:07AM ARBITRATORS.
10:29:07AM THE ARBITRATORS ARE SELECTED BY A MUTUAL PROCESS AS WELL,
10:29:10AM AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT REACH THOSE LEVELS, THEN
10:29:13AM THE EMPLOYEE IS RETURNED AND THE CITY ADAPTS TO WHATEVER
10:29:16AM THEY MAY HAVE LEARNED THROUGH THAT PROCESS IF SOMETHING CAN
10:29:19AM BE DONE BETTER.
10:29:20AM AGAIN, BETWEEN THE INVESTIGATIONS, THE DUE PROCESS AND
10:29:23AM EVERYTHING ELSE WITH 5,000 EMPLOYEES, I GENERALLY HAVE VERY
10:29:28AM FEW THINGS THAT MAKE IT THROUGH MY OFFICE, BUT I'M ALWAYS
10:29:32AM WELCOME TO LISTEN TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.
10:29:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:35AM I JUST ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK IT SPEAKS VOLUMES THAT
10:29:41AM NO ONE FROM HR WAS HERE TODAY.
10:29:43AM >>JOHN BENNETT: CAN I ADDRESS THAT?
10:29:44AM WE TALK ABOUT THE MOTIONS.
10:29:46AM WHEN IT SAYS "COUNCIL DISCUSSION," WE TRY AND BE RESPECTFUL
10:29:50AM OF COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
10:29:51AM I HAPPENED TO BE HERE TO LISTEN TO ALL OF THE ENERGY TO SEE
10:29:53AM WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
10:29:55AM BUT IT DIDN'T ASK FOR STAFF TO BE HERE SPECIFICALLY.
10:29:57AM I CAME JUST TO MAKE SURE I COULD HEAR, LISTEN, AND RESPOND
10:30:01AM AS NECESSARY.
10:30:02AM BUT WE TRY TO RESPECT WHEN IT SAYS "COUNCIL DISCUSSION."
10:30:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THE NEXT ITEM
10:30:09AM ON THIS IS COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AND DETERMINE THE PARAMETERS
10:30:12AM OF THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUNDING MOVING FORWARD AND WE
10:30:16AM HAVE CFO HERE FOR THAT.
10:30:18AM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE, BUT IT DIDN'T
10:30:21AM ASK FOR STAFF.
10:30:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M JUST SAYING THAT, GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU
10:30:24AM DO HAVE STAFF HERE FOR STUFF LIKE THAT.
10:30:26AM I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY WEREN'T.
10:30:28AM BUT TO GO BACK TO THE ISSUE, WE NEED TO DO SOME TYPE OF -- I
10:30:34AM WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT A THIRD PARTY TO AT LEAST
10:30:39AM ACCEPT THE GRIEVANCE.
10:30:40AM I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR WE CAN GO WITH THAT.
10:30:42AM I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR ATTORNEY
10:30:44AM ABOUT GOING FORWARD.
10:30:47AM IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION IS
10:30:50AM SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT.
10:30:52AM BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW FAR WE CAN GO WITH WHAT OUR POWERS
10:30:59AM ARE AS COUNCIL.
10:31:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY AND MIRANDA.
10:31:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN KEEPING WITH YOUR LEGISLATIVE
10:31:04AM FUNCTION --
10:31:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY.
10:31:06AM HENDERSON.
10:31:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:31:10AM KEEPING WITH YOUR LEGISLATIVE FUNCTION, LET ME BRING TO THIS
10:31:13AM COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT IN OCTOBER OF 2016, PREVIOUS CITY
10:31:20AM COUNCIL PASSED ORDINANCE 2016-155 WHICH CREATED
10:31:24AM WHISTLE-BLOWER PROCEDURES.
10:31:25AM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER COUNCIL WISHES TO -- WHAT I'M GOING TO
10:31:30AM DO IS MAKE COPIES AND DISTRIBUTE TO YOUR OFFICE, CITY
10:31:33AM COUNCIL, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND WHAT'S
10:31:38AM IN YOUR CODE AND WHAT WAS ENACTED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS
10:31:43AM WHISTLE-BLOWERS AND PERHAPS BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED OR
10:31:45AM BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE EXPERIENCED, YOUR TIME ON CITY COUNCIL,
10:31:49AM YOU MAY WANT TO REVISIT THAT TO SEE WHERE COUNCIL CAN GO
10:31:54AM LEGISLATIVELY TO ADDRESS THIS.
10:31:55AM I WILL DO THAT.
10:31:56AM I WILL PASS OUT -- I WILL MAKE COPIES OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER
10:32:00AM PROCEDURES, WHICH IS CONTAINED WITHIN CHAPTER 2 IN THE
10:32:04AM CITY'S ETHICS CODE.
10:32:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON AND MIRANDA.
10:32:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:32:09AM GOOD MORNING.
10:32:09AM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY BEFORE I
10:32:15AM EVEN GET STARTED WITH MY COMMENTS.
10:32:17AM SECTION 2.4 ABOUT THE POWER OF CITY COUNCIL, CAN YOU RESTATE
10:32:24AM THAT, PLEASE, JUST FOR CLARITY?
10:32:26AM I BELIEVE IT WAS 2.4.
10:32:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIONS?
10:32:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH.
10:32:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BACK TO THE CHARTER.
10:32:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHILE HE IS LOOKING FOR THAT, I WANT TO,
10:32:45AM YOU KNOW, THANK THOSE FOLKS WHO WERE FORMER EMPLOYEES OF THE
10:32:49AM CITY OF TAMPA FOR COMING FORWARD AND SHARING THEIR COMMENTS.
10:32:53AM I KNOW THAT WAS -- YOU KNOW, COULD BE VERY CHALLENGING FOR
10:32:56AM YOU.
10:32:57AM IT IS DIFFICULT, WHETHER YOU ARE STILL EMPLOYED WITH THE
10:33:03AM CITY OR YOU HAVE LEFT THE CITY WHEN YOU HAVE STRONG
10:33:07AM VIEWPOINTS THAT ARE REAL AND HOW THEY ARE ADDRESSED OR NOT
10:33:12AM ADDRESSED.
10:33:13AM SO I DO EMPATHIZE WITH THAT, PARTICULARLY WHEN PEOPLE DO
10:33:18AM STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES.
10:33:21AM I CAN SPEAK ON THAT PERSONALLY AS WELL AS PROFESSIONALLY
10:33:24AM INSIDE THIS ENVIRONMENT AND WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC
10:33:25AM SCHOOLS, IT CAN BE EXTREMELY CHALLENGING TO PUT YOURSELF OUT
10:33:29AM THERE AND TELL THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU CAN BE WEAPONIZED
10:33:33AM EITHER WAY.
10:33:34AM DID YOU FIND IT?
10:33:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SECTION 2.14, IN THE EXERCISE OF ITS
10:33:39AM LEGISLATIVE POWERS, THE COUNCIL OR ANY SPECIAL COMMITTEE
10:33:42AM THEREOF SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO CONDUCT SUCH INVESTIGATIONS
10:33:45AM AND HOLD SUCH HEARINGS AS THE COUNCIL SHALL DEEM NECESSARY,
10:33:49AM EXPEDIENT AND PROPER AND SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO COMPEL THE
10:33:53AM ATTENDANCE OF WITNESSES IN THE PRODUCTION OF EVIDENCE BY THE
10:33:55AM ISSUANCE OF ALL FORMS OF SUBPOENA AND SHALL HAVE THE POWER
10:33:58AM TO PUNISH FOR CONTEMPT.
10:34:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:34:02AM WHAT RESONATED WITH ME IS THAT IF SOMEONE COMES TO US, WE
10:34:09AM ACTUALLY HAVE THE POWER TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
10:34:12AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THAT HAS HAPPENED.
10:34:14AM IN REGARD TO THE CITY OF TAMPA WHEN PEOPLE COME AND SHARE
10:34:20AM THINGS WITH US, DO WE -- WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO INITIATE.
10:34:26AM AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HAS HAPPENED.
10:34:28AM AT A HIGH LEVEL.
10:34:31AM BUT WHAT ABOUT WHEN IT'S US?
10:34:33AM BECAUSE AN EMPLOYEE HAS COME TO ME AND SAID THAT A COUNCIL
10:34:36AM MEMBER HAS CREATED A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT, WHAT DO I DO WITH
10:34:40AM THE INFORMATION?
10:34:40AM WHO HOLDS THAT PERSON ACCOUNTABLE?
10:34:41AM HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?
10:34:45AM IT CAN BE CHALLENGING.
10:34:47AM WHEN IT'S US AS A PUBLIC SPOKE TODAY ABOUT TWO PARTICULAR
10:34:51AM COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, BEING INVESTIGATED, IF IT'S US,
10:34:55AM WHO HAS TO INITIATE THAT?
10:34:56AM MOST LIKELY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS DONE.
10:35:01AM CRITICISM FOR IT OR NOT, BUT SOMEONE HAD TO DO IT.
10:35:08AM EITHER THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS PEERS OR THE MAYOR.
10:35:12AM CAN'T BE AN EMPLOYEE.
10:35:14AM IT DOES HAVE A HIERARCHY THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO ADDRESS
10:35:17AM THINGS.
10:35:17AM THE MAYOR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT, BUT IT ALSO AS READ
10:35:21AM BY OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO IT
10:35:24AM AS WELL.
10:35:24AM IN INSTANCES, EVEN WHETHER IT IS A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT,
10:35:33AM SEXUAL HARASSMENT, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THE END RESULT
10:35:38AM OF GOING THROUGH A PROCESS THAT INVOLVES HR ALSO HAS LEVELS
10:35:44AM OF CONFIDENTIALITY TO IT AS WELL.
10:35:47AM SO SOME THINGS ARE EVENTUALLY MADE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY IF THE
10:35:53AM CHARGES ARE FILED OFFICIALLY, THEN THE PAPER IS GOING TO
10:35:56AM WRITE ABOUT IT AND YOU GET TO READ ABOUT IT.
10:35:59AM IN THE INSTANCE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHOSE SEAT THAT I
10:36:02AM NOW SIT IN, YES, THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION.
10:36:04AM YES, IT DID COST A LOT OF MONEY.
10:36:07AM BUT 18 OF THE 19 CHARGES WERE CREDIBLE AND THAT REQUIRED AN
10:36:11AM INVESTIGATION FOR THAT TO BE TRUE.
10:36:12AM BUT NO ONE COULD FIRE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS AN ELECTED
10:36:16AM OFFICIAL.
10:36:16AM SO SOMEONE HAD TO BEAT HIM AND THAT HAPPENED TO BE ME.
10:36:21AM I WANT TO GO ON RECORD IN SAYING THAT PUBLICLY FOR THE VERY
10:36:24AM FIRST TIME.
10:36:25AM HE IS NO LONGER HERE BECAUSE HE CREATED A HOSTILE WORK
10:36:29AM ENVIRONMENT FOR A WOMAN AND SHE JUST HAPPENED TO BE MY
10:36:34AM SISTER.
10:36:34AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:36:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:36:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN ONLY SAY THIS, AND THIS IS THE LAST
10:36:44AM TIME I'M GOING TO BRING UP ANYTHING.
10:36:46AM WHEN I SEE THE LIST THAT MS. POYNOR BROUGHT UP, THERE WAS A
10:36:51AM LADY THAT WORKED WITH THE CRA.
10:36:53AM THE PRIOR PERSON WHO NEVER GOT THE JOB, DID ALL THE
10:36:58AM INTERVIEWS, DID EVERYTHING WE HAD TO DO, THREE OR FOUR
10:37:01AM FINALISTS WENT THROUGH A FINAL PROCESS AND HE WAS THE ONE
10:37:04AM WHO HIRED.
10:37:05AM LIVE SOMEWHERE TO THE EAST, CLOSE TO ORLANDO OR IN ORLANDO.
10:37:09AM HE WAS HIRED ONE MORNING AND THAT SAME MORNING HAD A NIGHT
10:37:14AM MEETING, I MAY BE OFF A COUPLE OF HOURS, THAT GENTLEMAN
10:37:17AM CALLED IN AND I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME.
10:37:18AM I FORGOT, BUT HE IS THE SMARTEST PERSON I KNOW.
10:37:23AM HE CALLED UP AND SAID HE DIDN'T WANT THE JOB BECAUSE HE
10:37:26AM DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE WAS SEEING ON TV AND THE WAY WE WERE
10:37:31AM ACTING.
10:37:31AM SOMETHING TO THAT FACT.
10:37:32AM I WANT THAT INVESTIGATED.
10:37:34AM WHY WOULD SOMEBODY WHO HAD A JOB, APPLY FOR A JOB, RECEIVE
10:37:37AM THE JOB AND THAT EVENING CALL US AND SAY I DON'T WANT TO
10:37:41AM COME -- I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.
10:37:43AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SAID, BUT HE DIDN'T WANT TO COME
10:37:47AM BECAUSE OF US.
10:37:47AM THE WAY WE WERE ACTING THAT NIGHT.
10:37:49AM I BELIEVE THAT WAS -- SO I WANT THAT INVESTIGATED.
10:37:53AM HOW CAN WE HIRE SOMEBODY AND THEY SEE US ON TV AND JUST BY
10:37:57AM LOOKING AT US, THE WAY WE HANDLED OUR BUSINESS, HE SAID,
10:38:01AM WHOA, I BETTER STAY WHERE I'M AT.
10:38:03AM I'M HAPPY HERE.
10:38:04AM SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED WITH
10:38:10AM ALL OF US.
10:38:11AM I'M THE FIRST TO SAY COME SEE ME IF YOU WANT TO INVESTIGATE
10:38:15AM ME.
10:38:16AM I HAVEN'T HEARD NO FOLLOWERS.
10:38:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:38:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:23AM I WANT TO SAY, WHICH IS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO
10:38:29AM SOMETHING TODAY THAT WE CAN DO TO RESPOND TO.
10:38:32AM AGAIN, WE HAD TWO WOMEN WHO CAME UP HERE WHO SPOKE PUBLICLY.
10:38:36AM I RESPECT THAT.
10:38:37AM I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT COMING FORTH WITH
10:38:41AM SOME SORT OF AN INQUIRY I GUESS IF YOU WILL.
10:38:45AM SHOULDN'T SAY INQUIRY, A LINE, WHATEVER IT IS WE WANT TO
10:38:49AM CALL IT WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO INDEPENDENTLY OUTSIDE TO TALK
10:38:53AM ABOUT CHALLENGES THEY HAVE.
10:38:54AM LET'S MOVE FORWARD ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT TODAY.
10:38:59AM AGAIN, WHEN PEOPLE STAND UP IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS.
10:39:04AM OBVIOUSLY, MR. SHELBY NO COMMENTARY ON ANY CURRENT CASES OR
10:39:07AM POTENTIAL CASES, RIGHT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RESPECT
10:39:13AM THE COURAGE AND THE CHUTZPAH THAT IT TAKES TO DO THAT.
10:39:16AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT.
10:39:18AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET IN THE WEEDS ON
10:39:22AM CERTAIN THINGS HERE.
10:39:23AM MY OPINION.
10:39:25AM BUT LET'S PASS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PASS TODAY TO IMPROVE A
10:39:32AM PROCESS, IF WE CAN DO THAT.
10:39:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:39:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I WANT TO MAKE A PROPOSAL, BUT TO THE
10:39:40AM POINT ABOUT NO CONSULTANTS HERE TODAY -- OR NO STAFF HERE
10:39:44AM TODAY, THAT'S MY FAULT BECAUSE I WANTED IT TO BE A COUNCIL
10:39:46AM DISCUSSION.
10:39:47AM I DIDN'T WANT STAFF TO PUSH IT ON US.
10:39:50AM I WANTED IT TO BE OUR DISCUSSION.
10:39:51AM PLEASE DON'T BLAME THE CHIEF OF STAFF OR STAFF ON THAT.
10:39:54AM I THANK THEM FOR RESPECTING THAT REQUEST.
10:39:57AM NONE OF US ARE EXPERTS ON WHAT TO DO SO WE CAN THROW
10:40:01AM SOMETHING OUT.
10:40:03AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA KEEPS MENTIONING THE GUY THAT WE
10:40:06AM INTERVIEWED FOR THE CRA.
10:40:07AM I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT SITUATION.
10:40:10AM IN ORLANDO, HE REPORTED DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR.
10:40:14AM AND THE JOB THAT HE WAS -- AND IT WAS VERY EASY FOR HIM
10:40:17AM BECAUSE HE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MAYOR IN
10:40:19AM ORLANDO.
10:40:19AM WHEN HE MET WITH US, HE KNEW THAT HE HAD TO -- THAT HE WAS
10:40:23AM REPORTING TO THE CRA BOARD.
10:40:24AM THAT MEANS REPORTING TO SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE SEVEN
10:40:27AM DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
10:40:29AM AT THE TIME, ALTHOUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HERE TECHNICALLY IS
10:40:31AM NOT INVOLVED WITH THE CRA, THEY HAD CERTAIN OPINIONS THAT
10:40:34AM THEY WERE PUSHING FORWARD AND CERTAIN IDEAS THAT THEY WERE
10:40:37AM PUSHING FORWARD.
10:40:38AM ANY ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH CRA HAVE BEEN WHERE THE
10:40:43AM MAYOR'S OFFICE BEHIND THE SCENES HAS BEEN PUSHING THEIR
10:40:46AM INTEREST AND THEIR DESIRES.
10:40:48AM AN EXAMPLE WHICH WE RECENTLY RESOLVED WAS THE ISSUE OF WHERE
10:40:55AM SOME OF THE STAFF SHOULD RESIDE.
10:40:57AM LEGALLY, TECHNICALLY, CRA PAID STAFF CAN ONLY WORK ON CRA
10:41:02AM ISSUES.
10:41:03AM BUT PROPOSED BY THE ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE THEM COWORK IN
10:41:05AM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
10:41:06AM THOSE KINDS OF THINGS CREATE CONFLICT.
10:41:09AM IF YOU HAVE A GREAT POSITION, WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE
10:41:14AM MAYOR OR YOU CAN WORK WITH SEVEN PEOPLE WHO ALL HAVE
10:41:18AM DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES AND THEN HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION
10:41:20AM THAT'S TRYING TO INFLUENCE FROM THE OUTSIDE, YOU PROBABLY
10:41:23AM WOULDN'T WANT TO STEP INTO THAT POLITICAL SITUATION.
10:41:25AM IT'S NOT TO BLAME ANYBODY.
10:41:28AM THIS ADMINISTRATION, WHEN I STARTED FIVE YEARS AGO, EVEN
10:41:31AM THOUGH THEY WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE CRA,
10:41:35AM THEY DOCUMENTED IN THE NEW AGREEMENT THAT THEY WOULDN'T
10:41:38AM INTERVENE WITH THE CRA AND THEY BARELY INTERVENED WITH THE
10:41:41AM CRA.
10:41:41AM WHEREAS THE LAST ADMINISTRATION YOU ALL KNOW WAS VERY
10:41:44AM INVOLVED WITH THE CRA.
10:41:45AM I THINK THAT IS A COMPLIMENT TO THEM.
10:41:48AM JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, FROM MY EXPERIENCE WORKING ON THE
10:41:50AM OTHER SIDE OF THESE ISSUES, LISTENING TO WHAT THE LADY SAID
10:41:56AM HERE, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT ANYBODY IS GOING TO SAY.
10:41:59AM I ALWAYS HAVE A WITNESS IN MY MEETINGS.
10:42:01AM EVERY PHONE CALL, EVERY MEETING, I ALWAYS HAVE A WITNESS.
10:42:04AM AND THE REASON IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE
10:42:08AM DOCUMENTED CORRECTLY.
10:42:09AM IF WE DO EXIT INTERVIEWS, WHAT I WOULD DEMAND IS THAT HR
10:42:13AM HAVE THE PERSON SIGN OFF ON THE NOTES BECAUSE AS THE LADY
10:42:17AM SPOKE HERE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS BY DIFFERENT
10:42:20AM PEOPLE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN SITUATIONS AND WE NEED TO MAKE
10:42:23AM SURE IT'S ACCURATELY PUT FORWARD.
10:42:25AM ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENED IN THE CITY IS THAT WE'RE NOT
10:42:29AM ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT CLAIMANTS' NAMES OR SITUATIONS.
10:42:36AM IN FACT, MISDEMEANOR TO MENTION THE NAME OF A CLAIMANT.
10:42:39AM THERE WAS A SITUATION, THOUGH, WHERE THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS
10:42:42AM CONFERENCE WITH A CLAIMANT WHO MANY OF US KNEW AND LOVED AND
10:42:45AM IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE THE MAYOR MENTIONED IDENTIFYING
10:42:50AM INFORMATION, NOT THE NAME, BUT IDENTIFYING INFORMATION.
10:42:56AM THOSE OF US WHO KNEW THAT PERSON FELT VERY BETRAYED BY THAT,
10:43:01AM THAT A PERSON'S IDENTITY SHOULD NOT BE PUT FORWARD.
10:43:05AM WHAT THAT DID, IT HAD A CHILLING EFFECT ON PEOPLE INSIDE THE
10:43:11AM ORGANIZATION.
10:43:11AM MANY OF THE WOMEN WHO HAVE COME ON OTHER ISSUES AND OTHER
10:43:14AM AREAS HAVE SAID I DON'T WANT TO COME FORWARD BECAUSE WHAT
10:43:17AM HAPPENS IF SOMEBODY MENTIONS ME IN A PRESS CONFERENCE, MUCH
10:43:20AM LESS HOW IT WILL BE SEEN.
10:43:22AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT KIND OF THING DOESN'T HAPPEN IN
10:43:25AM THE FUTURE.
10:43:25AM MAYBE WE SHOULD PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS NOT ONLY SHOULD
10:43:28AM YOU NOT MENTION THE NAME OF SOMEBODY, YOU SHOULD NOT MENTION
10:43:32AM IDENTIFYING INFORMATION.
10:43:33AM IF THOSE PEOPLE AGREE TO IT, FINE, IF THEY WANT TO STAND UP
10:43:36AM IN A PRESS CONFERENCE.
10:43:37AM ARBITRARILY MENTIONING INFORMATION, IDENTIFYING SOMEBODY I
10:43:41AM THINK IS A BETRAYAL OF TRUST AND COULD POTENTIALLY HURT THAT
10:43:43AM PERSON'S REPUTATION.
10:43:45AM PEOPLE WITH LEGITIMATE GRIEVANCES SHOULD NOT BECOME
10:43:51AM POLITICAL --
10:43:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PAWNS.
10:43:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T WANT TO MENTION.
10:43:56AM ANYWAY I THINK WE NEED TO RESPECT ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT
10:43:58AM COME FORWARD AND LOOK AT THAT.
10:43:59AM MY PROPOSAL, AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T INVITE IN THE MOTION STAFF
10:44:03AM TO COME HERE.
10:44:04AM BUT MY PROPOSAL AND REQUEST TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS THAT WE
10:44:07AM WORK SOMEHOW COLLABORATIVELY AND I'LL THROW OUT A MOTION.
10:44:13AM WHATEVER MOTION WE MAKE, THERE'S GOING TO BE ARGUMENTS ABOUT
10:44:16AM CHARTER AND EVERYTHING.
10:44:17AM THAT'S WHY I WISH IT COULD BE COLLABORATIVE AND I WISH
10:44:21AM IDEALLY IT WOULD NOT JUST BE THE ADMINISTRATION BUT THE
10:44:24AM CHIEF OF STAFF WOULD PARTNER.
10:44:25AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND
10:44:28AM CITY COUNCIL PARTNER TO HIRE AN EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY TO LOOK
10:44:35AM AT THE SITUATION OF THESE PEOPLE LEAVING AND RECOMMEND A
10:44:39AM PROCESS GOING FORWARD TO PROTECT WHISTLE-BLOWERS.
10:44:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
10:44:47AM FROM THE BEGINNING.
10:44:48AM DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THAT MOTION UP FIRST OR GO TO YOUR
10:44:50AM MOTION?
10:44:50AM WAS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION --
10:44:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T HEAR NO SECOND.
10:44:55AM IF I MAY, LOOKED AT ME WHEN TALKING ABOUT MAYORS AND
10:44:59AM CONTRIBUTION BETWEEN THE CRA AND THE CONVERSATION AND
10:45:03AM ADMINISTRATION.
10:45:03AM NO ADMINISTRATION EVER TOLD ME WHAT THE HELL TO DO ON CRA.
10:45:06AM NONE.
10:45:07AM NOT BUCKHORN, NOT IORIO, NOT CASTOR, NOT GRECO, AND NOT BILL
10:45:19AM POE.
10:45:20AM AND BILL POE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN'T TESTIFY TO THAT.
10:45:23AM NONE OF THEM EVER TRIED TO WIGGLE MY TAIL TO TELL ME WHICH
10:45:31AM WAY TO GO NOT ONLY ON THAT ISSUE, ANY ISSUE.
10:45:34AM NO ONE TOLD ME, I WANT YOU TO VOTE THIS WAY.
10:45:37AM NEVER.
10:45:39AM I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE, BUT THERE WAS
10:45:42AM NEVER A WAY OF SAYING, DO THIS, DO THAT.
10:45:44AM THEN YOU BETTER, I GUESS.
10:45:46AM SO I WANT THAT INVESTIGATED.
10:45:50AM STILL HERE, GO ASK THEM.
10:45:52AM CHIEF OF STAFFS STILL HERE, GO ASK THEM.
10:45:57AM I WANT THIS OVER BUT I WANT IT DONE QUICKLY.
10:46:02AM NO GOVERNMENT CAN STAND THIS EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
10:46:05AM THE GENTLEMAN IN ORLANDO, IF HE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS WORKING
10:46:08AM FOR THE CRA, MAYBE HE QUIT ON HIS OWN.
10:46:15AM I WANT THAT INVESTIGATED AS TO WHY HE LEFT.
10:46:18AM THERE WAS A PHONE CALL TO CITY HALL, I DON'T KNOW WHO TOOK
10:46:22AM IT, BUT HE IS THE ONE WHO QUIT WHILE HE WAS TECHNICALLY
10:46:25AM HIRED, HE JUST DIDN'T FILL OUT THE PAPER WORK THE SAME DAY,
10:46:29AM I GUESS.
10:46:30AM WE HIRED HIM.
10:46:31AM HE SAW US ON TV AND THAT'S WHERE HE FOUND OUT HE WAS NOT
10:46:42AM WORKING FOR THE MAYOR.
10:46:44AM I WANT THAT INVESTIGATED.
10:46:45AM I WANT THINGS DONE, I WANT THIS CITY TO GO THROUGH THE
10:46:53AM PROCESS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
10:46:55AM NO GOVERNMENT.
10:46:56AM WE HAD ENOUGH STORMS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO LAST US A
10:46:59AM HUNDRED YEARS.
10:47:01AM THIS STORM I DON'T WANT TO LAST A HUNDRED YEARS.
10:47:04AM THIS IS ABOUT YOUR GOVERNMENT AND WHAT YOU SEE DONE RIGHT OR
10:47:09AM WRONG.
10:47:09AM IT'S GOT TO BE FIXED QUICKLY.
10:47:11AM IF NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME THING YOU HAVE IN
10:47:14AM WASHINGTON, D.C.
10:47:15AM ONE TO THE LEFT AND ONE TO THE RIGHT, THE MOST IN THE MIDDLE
10:47:19AM FORGOT ABOUT.
10:47:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, POINT OF ORDER.
10:47:22AM I MADE A MOTION, IF THERE'S NO SECOND --
10:47:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
10:47:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M HAPPY TO SECOND MR. MIRANDA'S MOTION
10:47:28AM AFTER MINE IS VOTED ON.
10:47:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY MOTION IS TO HAVE A COMPLETE
10:47:31AM INVESTIGATION OF THE GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:47:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BY WHO?
10:47:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHOEVER THEY WANT.
10:47:38AM THE THIRD PARTY.
10:47:38AM I'M WILLING TO SPEND THE MONEY.
10:47:40AM IT'S WORTH IT.
10:47:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
10:47:42AM IS THERE A SECOND --
10:47:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: HE MADE A PREVIOUS MOTION --
10:47:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A SECOND --
10:47:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS A NEW MOTION.
10:47:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION WAS MADE.
10:47:59AM IS THERE A SECOND?
10:48:00AM THE ANSWER IS EITHER YES OR NO.
10:48:06AM [OVERLAPPING TALK]
10:48:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HIS MOTION WAS NOT SECONDED.
10:48:13AM IT WAS?
10:48:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE MADE A MOTION AT THE BEGINNING.
10:48:18AM I WANT TO GIVE HIM THE PRIORITY.
10:48:20AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND.
10:48:22AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:48:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: BY THE WAY, I'M UNDER THE RIGHT CONTEXT, GLAD
10:48:29AM TO VOTE FOR BOTH MOTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY
10:48:32AM CONTRADICT IN ANY WAY.
10:48:34AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF I MAY INQUIRE, YOUR MOTION IS FOR --
10:48:39AM JUST TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
10:48:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GUESS THEY ARE GOING TO REVIEW
10:48:45AM EVERYTHING WE VOTED ON AND ALL -- WHATEVER.
10:48:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT PERIOD?
10:48:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I SUGGEST SOMETHING, IF I MAY?
10:48:54AM I THINK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S MOTION SUPPOSES AND ASSUMES
10:49:00AM THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION IS GOING TO PASS.
10:49:03AM MAYBE PERHAPS WE VOTE ON COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION AND
10:49:07AM THEN MIRANDA.
10:49:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
10:49:09AM IT WILL PASS OR FAIL WHETHER FIRST OR SECOND.
10:49:12AM MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME.
10:49:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:49:14AM ALL RIGHT.
10:49:14AM WE WILL PUT THAT MOTION ASIDE AND GO TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:49:19AM THIS IS WHY WE GET CREATIVE LOAFING BEST LATE NIGHT
10:49:23AM WATCHING.
10:49:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [INAUDIBLE]
10:49:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
10:49:30AM WE ALREADY HAVE THIS MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
10:49:31AM HERE IS THE THING.
10:49:33AM I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE IT IS SUPER VAGUE.
10:49:36AM IF YOU CAN COME BACK WITH TIMELINES AND FDLE WILL ONLY LOOK
10:49:40AM AT STUFF THAT IS CRIMINAL.
10:49:42AM IF YOU HAVE VERY SPECIFIC THINGS OTHER THAN JUST SAYING
10:49:46AM "INVESTIGATE ALL OF US," WHICH SURE, WHATEVER.
10:49:49AM PLEASE BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC.
10:49:51AM IF YOU JUST SAY -- I MEAN, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE ISSUE IS
10:49:54AM HERE.
10:49:54AM THE ISSUE HERE IS THE ENTIRE SUBJECT OF TODAY IS
10:49:57AM WHISTLE-BLOWERS FOR CITY STAFF, NOT US, CITY STAFF.
10:50:01AM I'M HAPPY TO HAVE US INVESTIGATED TOO BUT YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE
10:50:05AM A REASON.
10:50:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
10:50:09AM CRIMINAL.
10:50:09AM I'M TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYMENT ISSUES.
10:50:12AM THE SUBJECT TODAY, WHISTLE-BLOWERS, COULD COVER EITHER ONE.
10:50:15AM BUT IN TERMS OF INVESTIGATING FOR CRIMINALS, MY
10:50:21AM RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
10:50:25AM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DOES -- THEY ONLY TAKE REQUESTS BY A
10:50:29AM BODY.
10:50:30AM I WOULD RECOMMEND WE PUT SOME BOXES AROUND IT.
10:50:35AM IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT TRANSACTIONS OF THE ORGANIZATION,
10:50:40AM INTERVIEW PEOPLE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION, ASK FOR PEOPLE,
10:50:44AM WHISTLE-BLOWERS TO COME FORWARD, I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF
10:50:47AM THAT.
10:50:47AM I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF
10:50:51AM FLORIDA AND DEFINED SCOPE.
10:50:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO CALL THE QUESTION ON BOTH.
10:51:00AM BEFORE I CALL THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF YOU COULD
10:51:03AM JUST SPECIFY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT, WHO IS GOING TO DO
10:51:06AM IT, TIMELINE, JUST FOR MY SAKE.
10:51:09AM I'M GOING TO SUPPORT BOTH.
10:51:11AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, I SEE THAT AS WORKING WITH THE
10:51:14AM ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK ON A PLAN THAT WE CAN ULTIMATELY
10:51:19AM SUPPORT THAT, AGAIN, WILL ADDRESS THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY
10:51:22AM THESE LADIES.
10:51:22AM I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
10:51:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A QUESTION.
10:51:26AM AS PART OF THE MOTION, MR. MIRANDA, JUST IN TERMS OF, AGAIN,
10:51:30AM YOU KNOW WHAT COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY IS.
10:51:33AM IT'S A LEGISLATIVE BODY.
10:51:34AM IF YOU DO MAKE THE MOTION, IT WOULD BE A REQUEST.
10:51:36AM WHETHER IT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF A LETTER OR A RESOLUTION.
10:51:41AM OF COURSE, I'M SURE WHATEVER AGENCY OR ENTITY YOU SEND IT TO
10:51:46AM HAS CERTAIN CRITERIA OVER WHICH THEY HAVE AUTHORITY.
10:51:50AM AND IF THEY DON'T, THEY OBVIOUSLY WILL INFORM YOU OF SUCH.
10:51:55AM BUT IN TERMS OF THE MECHANISM OF HOW YOU WISH TO COMMUNICATE
10:51:59AM COUNCIL'S REQUEST, IT OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY
10:52:02AM TO INVESTIGATE AS BROADLY AS WHAT YOU SUGGEST.
10:52:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
10:52:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU WITHDRAW THE MOTION?
10:52:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WITHDRAW THE MOTION -- [INAUDIBLE]
10:52:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:52:15AM I'LL GO TO CARLSON FOR HIS MOTION.
10:52:18AM YES, MA'AM.
10:52:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN MY HEAD, I'M JUST THINKING, THERE IS A
10:52:24AM MATTER OF UNION EMPLOYEES WHO ARE PROTECTED.
10:52:27AM YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A PROCESS IN WHICH THEY ALREADY HAVE IN
10:52:30AM PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO TO.
10:52:32AM I THINK FOR EVEN FOLKS THAT SPOKE TODAY, IT'S REALLY ABOUT
10:52:36AM THOSE NONUNION EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYEES AT WILL WHO ARE
10:52:46AM SUBJECT TO NOT NECESSARILY HAVING A PLACE TO GO.
10:52:52AM BUT A UNION EMPLOYEE DOES HAVE A PLACE TO GO.
10:52:54AM THEY HAVE REPRESENTATION.
10:52:55AM SO I JUST WANT THAT TO ALSO BE FACTORED INTO WHATEVER
10:52:59AM DECISIONS WE MAKE TODAY.
10:53:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU HAVE A
10:53:03AM MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
10:53:04AM DO YOU NEED TO RESTATE IT FOR THE CLERK?
10:53:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: SAY TO THAT POINT, THERE ARE A LOT OF
10:53:10AM POSSIBILITIES, SOMEBODY DISAGREES, THAT'S FINE.
10:53:14AM UNDERSTANDING ALL THOSE DIFFERENT ASPECTS, MY RECOMMENDATION
10:53:18AM IS TO GO TO AN EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY AS A JUMPING OFF POINT.
10:53:22AM THE ADMINISTRATION ON THE CASE YOU MENTIONED, HIRED
10:53:26AM ATTORNEYS TO INVESTIGATE.
10:53:27AM THAT WAY THE ATTORNEYS KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNION
10:53:30AM EMPLOYEES AND OTHERS AND THEY'LL GUIDE THE PROCESS AND THEY
10:53:33AM MAY END UP HIRING OUTSIDE PEOPLE TO HELP THEM WITH SOME
10:53:36AM PROCESS.
10:53:36AM AT LEAST WE SHOULD LOOK AT HAVING THEM COME BACK AND THEN
10:53:41AM HAVING WORKED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LITIGATION, THEY ALSO CAN
10:53:44AM RECOMMEND TO US PROCESSES THAT CAN HELP AGGRIEVED PERSONS
10:53:49AM GET THEIR SITUATION FIXED BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY REDUCE
10:53:54AM LITIGATION FOR US.
10:53:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE] IT APPEARS THAT YOUR
10:54:03AM WHISTLE-BLOWER PROCEDURES AND YOUR ETHICS CODE INVOLVES THE
10:54:07AM ETHICS COMMISSION BEING HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THIS AND THE
10:54:11AM DESIGNATION OF A WHISTLE-BLOWER COMES FROM THE ETHICS
10:54:16AM COMMISSION.
10:54:17AM THERE IS A WHOLE PROCESS INVOLVED IN THIS THAT REALLY I HAVE
10:54:19AM NOT ENGAGED IN, BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL'S
10:54:23AM ATTENTION SO YOU KNOW IT'S RELEVANT TO WHAT'S ON YOUR BOOKS.
10:54:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE
10:54:29AM MOTION, IF I COULD.
10:54:31AM I WOULD LIKE TO, SINCE HAVING THE SEVEN OF US WORKING WITH
10:54:35AM CHIEF OF STAFF IS VERY DIFFICULT, I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS
10:54:39AM INITIAL PART, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
10:54:42AM OFFICE WORK WITH CHIEF OF STAFF TO COME UP WITH --
10:54:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MATRIX.
10:54:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, OR COME UP WITH WHAT'S -- I MEAN, IF
10:54:53AM WE'RE GOING TO BRING AN OUTSIDE FIRM IN, I WOULD JUST LIKE
10:54:56AM TO TRUST COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S OFFICE TO WORK WITH CHIEF OF
10:55:00AM STAFF TO FIGURE THAT OUT FIRST SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE TO
10:55:03AM GO NEXT BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
10:55:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:55:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:55:08AM A COUPLE OF THINGS, I ASSUME AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION THAT
10:55:11AM WOULD BE PROCEDURALLY, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
10:55:12AM NUMBER TWO IS, WE'RE VOTING ON PUTTING A CAKE IN THE OVEN
10:55:16AM AND WE'RE BAKING IT NOW.
10:55:17AM LET'S VOTE ON THIS AND MOVE FORWARD.
10:55:19AM THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION IS.
10:55:20AM ARE WE GOING TO PUT THIS THING IN THE OVEN?
10:55:22AM NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW IT WILL BAKE.
10:55:24AM LET'S VOTE, PLEASE.
10:55:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUBLIX CAKE OR -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS
10:55:32AM A MOTION.
10:55:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I UPDATE WITH A PROCESS UPDATE, ADD TO
10:55:37AM THE MOTION, AND SHE WOULD HAVE TO READ IT BACK TO ME, JUST
10:55:41AM WITH THE PROCESS UPDATE ON APRIL 17.
10:55:45AM IT MAY NOT BE FINISHED.
10:55:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M NOT HERE APRIL 30.
10:55:54AM DO APRIL 17.
10:55:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: APRIL 17.
10:55:56AM I JUST PICKED AN EMPTY DATE.
10:55:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 17.
10:55:59AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON --
10:56:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN.
10:56:07AM I MAKE A MOTION THAT CITY COUNCIL PARTNER WITH THE CHIEF OF
10:56:15AM STAFF TO ENGAGE AN EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY TO CONDUCT AN
10:56:27AM ANALYSIS OF THE CITY'S PROCESSES REGARDING EMPLOYEE
10:56:35AM GRIEVANCES AND TO INTERVIEW A SAMPLE OF EMPLOYEES WHO FEEL
10:56:44AM AGGRIEVED, CURRENT AND FORMER EMPLOYEES, AND TO REPORT BACK
10:56:49AM TO US WITH A RECOMMENDATION -- SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
10:56:54AM HOW WE CAN IMPROVE OUR EMPLOYEE GRIEVANCE PROCESSES GOING
10:56:59AM FORWARD WITH A WAY POINT UPDATE ON APRIL --
10:57:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN HENDERSON.
10:57:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT THE LIST OF NAMES OF MRS. POYNOR
10:57:12AM SUBMITTED ON THE RECORD BE ALSO PART OF THAT AND INDIVIDUAL
10:57:15AM THAT WE HIRED IN ORLANDO WHO SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO WORK FOR
10:57:19AM US BEING ADDED TO THE LIST, MR. CARLSON AND MR. BENNETT WORK
10:57:23AM WITH, THAT THOSE NAMES BE PART OF THE REVIEW.
10:57:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: TO RESPOND TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, I
10:57:32AM WOULD SAY SEPARATE SENTENCE, THE SAMPLE SHOULD INCLUDE THE
10:57:41AM EMPLOYEES WHO LEFT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MOBILITY, TPD, FIRE
10:57:50AM WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
10:57:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY THIS ABOUT FIRE AND POLICE.
10:57:56AM WHEN YOU ARE HIRED AS A GROUP, USUALLY RETIRE AS A GROUP
10:58:00AM MOSTLY.
10:58:00AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
10:58:03AM BUT NOW WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY
10:58:06AM STARTED BACK IN 1999, PRIOR TO THAT, AND THEY GOT HIRED AS A
10:58:10AM GROUP AND THEY WANT TO RETIRE SO THEY ARE LEAVING.
10:58:12AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE CASE, BUT THE PROBABILITY IS MORE
10:58:15AM THAN LIKELY GREATER MORE THAN LESS THAT THAT'S THE REASON
10:58:18AM THEY ARE LEAVING.
10:58:19AM THEY HAVE A PENSION COMING AND THEY WANT TO RETIRE AND THEY
10:58:22AM WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
10:58:23AM BUT I WOULD LIKE THE NAMES OF THOSE THAT MRS. POYNOR POINTED
10:58:27AM OUT AND YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THEM, THAT ALL THOSE NAMES ARE
10:58:30AM INCLUDED AND REVIEWED, THE ATTORNEY, WHOEVER HIRE BETWEEN
10:58:35AM YOURSELF, MR. BENNETT AND THE COUNCIL --
10:58:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: I FORGOT LEGAL.
10:58:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CALL THE QUESTION.
10:58:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE -- YOU HAD MENTIONED IT.
10:58:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMEONE HAS CALLED THE QUESTION.
10:58:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST OF ALL, AS YOUR LEGAL ADVISOR, I HAVE
10:58:54AM SOME THINGS I'D LIKE TO STATE BEFORE THE QUESTION IS CALLED.
10:58:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SECOND IT ONCE MR. SHELBY SPEAKS.
10:59:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. SHELBY.
10:59:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS TO THIS MOTION THAT
10:59:06AM CONCERN ME.
10:59:06AM NUMBER ONE IS SECTION 501 OF THE CHARTER SAYS DEPARTMENTS.
10:59:12AM SUBSECTION A, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WHICH SHALL HAVE
10:59:16AM COGNIZANCE OF ALL LEGAL AFFAIRS OF THE CITY AND ALL MATTERS
10:59:23AM PERTAIN TO THE OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
10:59:25AM THE CITY ATTORNEY SHALL BE AN ATTORNEY LICENSED TO PRACTICE
10:59:28AM IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND SHALL BE THE HEAD OF THIS
10:59:30AM DEPARTMENT AND SHALL BE THEIR DUTY TO TAKE THE MANAGEMENT
10:59:34AM CHARGE AND CONTROL OF ALL THE LEGAL BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND
10:59:37AM TO BE IN REGARD TO ALL MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS THE LEGAL ADVISOR
10:59:41AM OF THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND COMMITTEES THEREOF AND
10:59:43AM THE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, ET CETERA.
10:59:45AM THAT'S ONE THING I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
10:59:48AM NUMBER TWO IS WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION THAT DELEGATES ONE
10:59:53AM MEMBER OF YOUR BOARD TO DO SOMETHING --
10:59:57AM >> WE DID IT --
10:59:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO MAKE SURE, WELL, THAT'S WHY I
11:00:01AM WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE MOTION IS BECAUSE IF YOU DO THAT, YOU
11:00:05AM THEN CREATE SUNSHINE ISSUES.
11:00:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I ALSO RESPOND TO THE FIRST ONE?
11:00:11AM I WAS ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION SO I'M AWARE OF THE
11:00:14AM POWERS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
11:00:15AM THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED THE CHIEF OF STAFF
11:00:19AM INVOLVED SO THAT WAY TWO MAJOR CLIENTS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY
11:00:23AM ARE INVOLVED AND WE CAN BOTH CONSULT THE CITY ATTORNEY.
11:00:27AM I WAS CAREFUL IN THE WORDING I PUT IN ANALYSIS, NOT
11:00:31AM NECESSARILY A LEGAL OPINION, ASKING FOR AN ANALYSIS WITH THE
11:00:35AM UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE LAW IS.
11:00:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:00:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT BEGS THE QUESTION HOW THIS ATTORNEY WILL
11:00:40AM BE ENGAGED AND WHO WILL PAY FOR IT?
11:00:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, WE'RE BAKING.
11:00:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE MIXING.
11:00:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY, WE'RE MIXING.
11:00:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE] -- 17th COME BACK AND SAY HERE
11:00:55AM BASED ON ALL THE CONVERSATION RECOMMENDED.
11:00:58AM I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING PUNITIVE TO ANYBODY.
11:01:01AM THAT'S WHY I WANT TO COLLABORATE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:01:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE MOTION STATED WHAT MR. CARLSON SAID
11:01:09AM OR ADD THE NAMES ON THE LIST?
11:01:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MADE AN AMENDMENT THAT ADDED A WHOLE BUNCH
11:01:13AM OF PEOPLE THAT LEFT, BUT THERE WAS NOT A SECOND TO THAT.
11:01:19AM ALL OF THEM WERE ON THERE.
11:01:24AM I SAID ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LEGAL,
11:01:27AM MOBILITY --
11:01:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THE GENTLEMAN IN ORLANDO.
11:01:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXECUTIVE STAFF, EVERYBODY.
11:01:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE ADDING THAT LIST THAT WAS SHOWN
11:01:36AM AND THE GUY FROM ORLANDO.
11:01:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: AND WE CAN ADD --
11:01:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL VOTE FOR THE MOTION, NO PROBLEM.
11:01:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, DO YOU WANT TO
11:01:44AM SAY ANYTHING?
11:01:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PLEASE, LET'S VOTE.
11:01:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS A QUESTION CALLED.
11:01:49AM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:01:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:01:53AM AYE.
11:01:54AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:01:55AM MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:01:57AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:02:02AM SECOND WAS FROM HURTAK, CORRECT?
11:02:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M GOING TO ADVISE COUNCIL THAT WHEN THE
11:02:08AM MINUTES, CERTAINLY THE CLERK WILL TALK TO THE OFFICE OF THE
11:02:13AM MAKER OF THE MOTION, BUT WHEN THE MINUTES COME OUT, PLEASE
11:02:17AM LET'S NOT WAIT UNTIL APRIL 17 TO FIRST LOOK AT THE MOTION
11:02:20AM FOR THE FIRST TIME.
11:02:21AM PLEASE REVIEW IT TO MAKE SURE IT REFLECTS WHAT COUNCIL TRULY
11:02:25AM MEANS.
11:02:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE IT RECORDED TOO.
11:02:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS ADJACENT, BUT JUST BASED ON WHAT
11:02:36AM WE WERE HEARING THIS MORNING, I THINK THAT WE ALSO SHOULD
11:02:40AM SET SOME FORMALITY TO OUR EXIT INTERVIEW PROCESS THAT SEEMS
11:02:45AM TO BE LOOSE OR DOESN'T NECESSARILY EXIST.
11:02:49AM PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN SPOKEN TO THAT HAVE DECIDED TO LEAVE OR
11:02:55AM WERE TERMINATED AT WILL.
11:02:58AM AND WE NEED SOME FORMALITY TO THAT PROCESS.
11:03:01AM I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE A MOTION WHERE STAFF EITHER
11:03:06AM PROVIDES US A MEMORANDUM, IF THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE,
11:03:09AM SEND IT TO US IN WRITTEN FORM SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE THAT
11:03:14AM AND MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS.
11:03:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:03:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WAS A MOTION.
11:03:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:03:22AM HENDERSON.
11:03:22AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:03:24AM DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
11:03:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:03:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS GOES BACK TO THE CHARTER.
11:03:34AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONTROL WE HAVE OVER HR.
11:03:37AM THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT.
11:03:38AM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN MAKE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT
11:03:41AM THEY HAVE TO DO THAT.
11:03:42AM THAT'S WHY WHEN I WAS TALKING TO CHIEF OF STAFF, I WAS KIND
11:03:45AM OF VAGUE ABOUT IT.
11:03:48AM I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT POWER, BUT I'M HAPPY.
11:03:51AM I LIKE THE IDEA OF JUST KNOWING WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
11:03:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MEMORANDUM TO SEE WHAT IT SAYS.
11:03:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AT THE END YOU SAID WHAT WE CAN DO TO CHANGE
11:03:59AM IT.
11:04:00AM I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE IT IS WHAT I'M
11:04:03AM SAYING.
11:04:03AM WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON IT, BUT I THINK THAT HAS TO COME
11:04:07AM FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:04:08AM AND WE CANNOT CONTROL HR.
11:04:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M NOT TRYING TO CONTROL HR, BUT I DO
11:04:14AM FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT THE PROCESS
11:04:17AM CURRENTLY IS HOW IT'S USED, IS IT RANDOM.
11:04:21AM THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT RECEIVED EXIT INTERVIEWS THAT
11:04:25AM ACTUALLY STATED THAT IN THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY.
11:04:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WRITTEN REPORT.
11:04:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WRITTEN REPORT.
11:04:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A DATE THAT YOU'LL HAVE IT BY?
11:04:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS THE PART I PONDER.
11:04:38AM HOW ABOUT APRIL 3rd?
11:04:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:04:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
11:04:45AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:04:45AM AYE.
11:04:46AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:04:46AM ANYTHING ELSE?
11:04:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL BE FRANK.
11:04:54AM I HELD MY TONGUE A FEW TIMES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD
11:04:56AM ON THINGS.
11:04:57AM I WOULD SAY THIS.
11:04:58AM I'M SAYING THIS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR US, WHETHER IN
11:05:02AM CITY COUNCIL STAFF OR IN CRA, MENTIONS WERE MADE OF
11:05:05AM MS. TRAVIS AND MS. MOODY, WOMEN FOR WHOM I HAVE GREAT
11:05:09AM RESPECT.
11:05:09AM I WAS SORRY TO SEE THEM GO.
11:05:11AM I WOULD JUST SAY BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES HERE
11:05:14AM THAT WE ASK THEM PRIVATELY AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY FEEL
11:05:18AM COMFORTABLE WITH US USING THEIR NAMES.
11:05:19AM THAT'S IT.
11:05:20AM I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT THIS OR ANYTHING OF THAT
11:05:23AM NATURE BUT JUST FOR US ON CITY COUNCIL, I THINK THAT'S
11:05:26AM IMPORTANT.
11:05:26AM I HAVE GREAT, LIKE, GREAT RESPECT, GREAT RESPECT FOR THOSE
11:05:30AM TWO LADIES.
11:05:31AM AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS BEING SAID.
11:05:38AM THAT'S ALL.
11:05:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT ENDS THE DISCUSSION ON 1.
11:05:43AM WE WANT TO FINISH THE WORKSHOP BY 1 P.M.
11:05:46AM WE'RE AT THE FIRST ITEM.
11:05:48AM YEAH, THEY ARE GOING TO EXIT REAL QUICK.
11:05:51AM ITEM NUMBER 2, COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AND DETERMINE THE
11:06:36AM PARAMETERS OF THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUNDING MOVING
11:06:38AM FORWARD.
11:06:39AM THIS MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:06:41AM WE HAVE MR. ROGERO HERE AS WELL.
11:06:45AM YES, MA'AM, KICK IT OFF.
11:06:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
11:06:49AM I WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND I HAD THIS THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT
11:06:58AM THAT THE MAYOR ACTUALLY PRESENTS US WITH A BUDGET WITH THOSE
11:07:04AM SOCIAL ITEM ACTIONS LISTED IN DETAIL.
11:07:07AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS NOT CLEAR IS IF THERE'S EVEN A
11:07:13AM FORMALITY TO HER PROCESS AND HOW WE AS COUNCIL CAN REQUEST
11:07:21AM MODIFICATIONS WHILE WE'RE REVIEWING THE BUDGET.
11:07:24AM FOR ME, I WANT US TO CONSIDER CITY ASSETS AND WHAT
11:07:35AM PERCENTAGE OF THAT IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THE SOCIAL
11:07:39AM ACTION FUND.
11:07:41AM IS IT NECESSARY FOR US TO DO THAT WHEN WE'RE SUPPORTING THEM
11:07:44AM IN GRANDEUR WAYS LIKE WITH CRA DOLLARS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
11:07:48AM TOWARDS PROJECTS?
11:07:50AM IS IT NECESSARY WITHIN THE TIME FRAME THAT WE PROVIDE OTHER
11:07:55AM SUPPORT TO THEM?
11:07:56AM THE OTHER PART OF IT, TOO, IS THAT -- AND THIS WAS BASED ON
11:08:02AM A PUBLIC LETTER WRITTEN TO ME IN CRITICISM AND, OF COURSE,
11:08:06AM SHARED WITH ALL MY COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THAT I CARE ABOUT
11:08:08AM THINGS THAT I SHOULDN'T CARE ABOUT.
11:08:10AM I THOUGHT ABOUT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
11:08:15AM THIS IS A QUARTER OF A PERCENT OF THE BUDGET.
11:08:17AM IT IS VERY SMALL.
11:08:19AM I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS BIG AND CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT
11:08:22AM FOR TWO HOURS THIS MORNING.
11:08:26AM BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THAT JUST BASED ON THE LONGEVITY OF
11:08:34AM SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE SOCIAL ACTION
11:08:37AM FUNDS, RECEIVING SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS, A WAY TO PROVIDE THEM
11:08:43AM WITH THAT INFORMATION TO DATE YOU HAVE RECEIVED OVER THE
11:08:47AM PAST, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS PROCESS, YOU HAVE
11:08:50AM RECEIVED $2 MILLION FROM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO SUPPORT YOUR
11:08:55AM ORGANIZATION, AND THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
11:08:59AM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO BECOME A PART OF THIS WHILE WEANING
11:09:04AM OFF PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST BEEN ON IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
11:09:08AM AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS OF LOOKING AT, OH,
11:09:12AM WELL, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SAY, OH, THEY DON'T NEED OUR
11:09:16AM MONEY BECAUSE THEY ARE A VERY LARGE ORGANIZATION AND THEY
11:09:20AM GET SO MUCH SUPPORT FROM OTHER PLACES, I DON'T WANT TO
11:09:22AM NECESSARILY DO THAT.
11:09:23AM BUT I LOOK AT THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE GIVEN TO THE
11:09:27AM ORGANIZATIONS THAT I PUT ON THE LIST.
11:09:30AM AND I LIKE THE SMALLER AMOUNTS.
11:09:32AM I REALLY DO.
11:09:33AM I LIKE THE SMALLER AMOUNTS.
11:09:34AM BECAUSE FOR ME IT'S SAYING WE SUPPORT YOU.
11:09:40AM WE'RE NOT FUNDING YOUR ORGANIZATION BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL
11:09:50AM RECENTLY, IT WAS SET UP FOR IT TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL AS A
11:09:54AM RESOLUTION SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THEY GET THEIR MONEY BUT WE
11:09:56AM HAD TO RUSH ONE BECAUSE THEY NEEDED IT TO PAY THEIR
11:09:59AM EMPLOYEES.
11:10:00AM WE ARE PUT IN THESE SITUATIONS WHERE NOW THE PUBLIC IS
11:10:03AM COMING TO US LIKE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND DID AWARD
11:10:07AM THE MONEY DURING THE BUDGET SEASON AND THAT PROCESS HAS TO
11:10:10AM PLAY OUT, BUT WE HAD PEOPLE COME STAND BEFORE US AS THOUGH
11:10:15AM WE WERE DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND REALLY WEREN'T.
11:10:17AM THEY JUST NEEDED THE MONEY IMMEDIATELY AND THEY PUT THE ONUS
11:10:21AM ON US.
11:10:22AM I JUST REALLY WANT TO COMPEL THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IN THE
11:10:29AM BUDGET PROCESS IS TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE
11:10:31AM IT A MAYOR-LED SITUATION.
11:10:34AM I DECIDED THIS MORNING THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO
11:10:36AM TAKE FROM THE MAYOR.
11:10:38AM IT IS COMING OUT OF HER OFFICE.
11:10:40AM IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR REQUESTS TO COME INTO COUNCIL
11:10:46AM MEMBERS DURING THE BUDGET PERIOD TO PRESENT TO THE MAYOR FOR
11:10:51AM CONSIDERATION AND IS FORMAL, HOW DO WE DO THAT?
11:10:55AM I DIDN'T KNOW TO DO THAT AS NEW COUNCIL MEMBER INITIALLY
11:10:59AM UNTIL I READ A MEMO FROM MR. VIERA I THINK ASKING FOR FUNDS
11:11:04AM FOR AN ORGANIZATION.
11:11:05AM THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT IT.
11:11:07AM IT IS A QUARTER OF A PERCENT OF ONE PERCENT.
11:11:10AM ISN'T IT LIKE $4 MILLION, BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE?
11:11:13AM MY VERY FIRST YEAR, AT THE BEGINNING IT WAS ALMOST SIX.
11:11:19AM SO THERE WAS SOME REDUCTION BASED ON US PEELING OFF TO MAKE
11:11:24AM OUR BUDGET WORK.
11:11:25AM WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY --
11:11:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
11:11:30AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, IF YOU WANT TO --
11:11:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT.
11:11:35AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON IN THE PAST HAS TALKED ABOUT
11:11:39AM LIMITING THE NUMBER OF YEARS WE CAN FUND AN ORGANIZATION SO
11:11:41AM WE'RE NOT FUNDING THEM FOREVER.
11:11:43AM I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.
11:11:45AM ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER IDEAS ABOUT THE KINDS OF THINGS AND
11:11:49AM WHAT -- AND HOW MUCH WE WOULD FUND SOMEBODY.
11:11:52AM IN THE PARTICULAR CASE THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING, WITHOUT
11:11:56AM NAMING NAMES, THERE WAS A REQUEST IN THE SPRING, I THINK
11:12:01AM APRIL OR MAY, TO FUND A PROGRAM IN THE SUMMERTIME.
11:12:03AM THEY CREATED A PROGRAM BASED ON THE FUNDING THAT WE WERE
11:12:11AM GIVING, THEY RAN A PROGRAM IN THE SUMMER AND I THINK WE
11:12:14AM DIDN'T PAY THEM UNTIL RECENTLY.
11:12:16AM THAT WAS A LAST-MINUTE THING THAT WE AGREED TO DO BECAUSE
11:12:23AM THE POOL IN THE AREA HAD BEEN CLOSED AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS
11:12:26AM AN ALTERNATIVE FOR KIDS TO BE INVOLVED.
11:12:28AM I AGREE WITH YOU THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS, PEOPLE SHOULD NOT
11:12:31AM BE COMING ASKING US URGENTLY FOR INFORMATION IN THAT
11:12:41AM SITUATION.
11:12:41AM HOPEFULLY THAT IS A ONE-OFF SITUATION.
11:12:43AM THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, YOU SAID THIS IS IN THE MAYOR'S
11:12:46AM OFFICE.
11:12:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELL, IT STARTS THERE.
11:12:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: TECHNICALLY BY CHARTER, CITY COUNCIL, THE
11:12:52AM MAYOR PRESENTS A BUDGET, BUT IT'S UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO
11:12:55AM DECIDE.
11:12:55AM YOU COULD SAY IT IS A SHARED DUTY OR ULTIMATELY CITY
11:13:00AM COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE WE CAN CHANGE THE BUDGET
11:13:02AM WITH FIVE VOTES.
11:13:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TRUE.
11:13:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE THING THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND OTHERS HAVE
11:13:06AM DONE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IS TO CREATE A MORE OBJECTIVE
11:13:11AM PROCESS TO ANALYZE THESE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE FITTING
11:13:16AM CERTAIN CRITERIA AND ROI WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN A GOOD
11:13:19AM THING, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO ASK THEM FOR
11:13:22AM SUPPORT.
11:13:23AM WE CAN PUT IN WHATEVER WE WANT IN THE BUDGET, BUT WE SHOULD
11:13:26AM IDEALLY AGREE TO THE CRITERIA, JUST LIKE WE DID ON THE
11:13:29AM NAMING CRITERIA.
11:13:31AM AND THEN WITHIN THE CRITERIA, WE COULD PUT THINGS IN.
11:13:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, THE EMERGENCY
11:13:38AM MONEY FOR THAT ORGANIZATION.
11:13:39AM MR. BRODY, ISN'T THIS YOURS FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT?
11:13:42AM EVEN THOUGH WE VOTED TO GIVE THEM MONEY, WE STILL HAVE
11:13:47AM AGREEMENTS, RIGHT?
11:13:48AM IT TOOK UNTIL NOVEMBER, BUT IF WE VOTED TO GIVE THEM MONEY,
11:13:55AM IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
11:14:01AM SO THE FORMALITY PART WAS AN AGREEMENT ALSO HAD TO BE
11:14:04AM CREATED FOR THEM JUST LIKE IT IS CREATED FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
11:14:08AM IT CAN'T BE RANDOM JUST BECAUSE THEY REALLY NEEDED IT AND WE
11:14:10AM WANTED TO SUPPORT THEM, BECAUSE, REMEMBER, THE NAACP DIDN'T
11:14:16AM HAVE -- YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SOME SORT OF OLD AGREEMENT OR
11:14:18AM WHATEVER AND THEY WERE BEHOLDEN TO AN AGREEMENT AND NOBODY
11:14:21AM ELSE WAS OR SOME PEOPLE WEREN'T.
11:14:24AM WE'RE WORKING ON THAT PROCESS NOW.
11:14:25AM THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE SPOKEN TO IN TERMS OF DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
11:14:31AM BECAUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING NOW, ANYTHING $25,000 --
11:14:35AM $24,999 IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THOSE WHO GET MORE MONEY.
11:14:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE LAST THING ON THAT?
11:14:44AM I THINK THAT WAS A PARTICULAR SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE
11:14:48AM SITUATION WITH THE POOL, BUT ALSO THE COUNTY HAD BEEN
11:14:50AM FUNDING THE PROGRAM AND THEN SUDDENLY STOPPED, SO WE WERE
11:14:55AM PROVIDING BRIDGE FUNDING.
11:14:56AM SMALL NONPROFIT.
11:14:57AM HOPEFULLY A SPECIAL SITUATION.
11:14:59AM YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.
11:15:01AM WITHOUT NAMING NAMES, WHEN AN ORGANIZATION THAT COUNCIL HAS
11:15:04AM ADVOCATED FOR MAKES A REQUEST, IF THAT PROCESS TO GET THE
11:15:08AM CHECK TAKES A LONG TIME, THERE IS THE FEELING THAT THEY ARE
11:15:13AM SOMEHOW BEING PUT IN A SLOW LANE WHERE THE ONES THAT THE
11:15:16AM MAYOR PUTS IN ARE IN THE FAST LANE.
11:15:19AM WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
11:15:20AM YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT THAT IN THE APPLICATION WE SHOULD
11:15:23AM PUT AN ESTIMATED PROCESS SO WE CAN SET PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS
11:15:29AM THAT IT TAKES TIME TO CREATE A CONTRACT.
11:15:33AM MOST OF IT SHOULD BE OFF THE SHELF BUT TAKES TIME TO CREATE
11:15:36AM A CONTRACT AND CUT A CHECK.
11:15:38AM EVEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU CAN'T ALWAYS CUT A CHECK
11:15:41AM IMMEDIATELY.
11:15:41AM BUT THERE SHOULD BE MAYBE A FINAL SO THAT PEOPLE CAN EXPECT
11:15:47AM WHEN THE MONEY.
11:15:49AM SHOULDN'T DRAG OUT IDEALLY MORE THAN 90 DAYS, DEFINITELY NOT
11:15:52AM MORE THAN SIX MONTHS.
11:15:54AM IF IT'S PAST SIX MONTHS, THEN THERE SHOULD BE REAL
11:15:56AM JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.
11:15:57AM MY RECOMMENDATION IS PUT OBJECTIVE PROCESS IN SO NOBODY
11:16:00AM FEELS LIKE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TRACKS.
11:16:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALSO TO YOUR POINT, EVEN WITH THE FUNDING
11:16:05AM THAT OTHER FOLKS RECEIVE, THEY GET IT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
11:16:08AM THEY DON'T GET IT ALL AT ONCE LIKE DID FOR THE ORGANIZATION.
11:16:11AM THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE ISSUE TOO.
11:16:16AM A PROCESS FOR EVEN HANDLING EMERGENCIES BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE
11:16:19AM CAN COME BEFORE US AND FEEL LIKE THEY ARE ENTITLED.
11:16:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:16:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:27AM I WAS GOING TO SAY WITH REGARDS TO TIMING, IT'S ALSO ON US
11:16:31AM IN OUR OFFICE TO MAKE SURE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
11:16:35AM IF WE MAKE A REQUEST, WE CONNECT THE PARTIES AND DON'T JUST
11:16:39AM THROW THINGS ON THE ADMINISTRATION, HEY GO DO THIS.
11:16:41AM GOOD EXAMPLE, WE GOT $75,000 FOR THE PENGUIN PROJECT THAT
11:16:45AM DOES WORK FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES IN THE
11:16:48AM PERFORMING ARTS.
11:16:49AM THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.
11:16:51AM IT TOOK A LONG WHILE.
11:16:53AM I FEEL THAT ULTIMATELY THE BURDEN OF STARTING THAT PROCESS
11:16:55AM LIES WITH THE OFFICE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO MADE THE
11:16:59AM EFFORT TO GET THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THE
11:17:04AM ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T HAVE A CONTACT.
11:17:06AM AND IF WE WANT THE FUNDS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, THEN WE KIND
11:17:09AM OF HAVE THE BURDEN OF DOING THAT.
11:17:11AM I SAY THAT, BY THE WAY, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS MADE REQUESTS,
11:17:15AM ORGANIZATIONS.
11:17:16AM I'LL DEFEND THEM UNTIL MY LAST DAY ON GOD'S EARTH.
11:17:19AM THEY DO THE GOOD LORD'S WORK.
11:17:21AM BUT WE DO HAVE, I THINK, A BURDEN, A CIVIC BURDEN, IF YOU
11:17:25AM WILL, OF TRYING TO CONNECT THE PARTIES AND OF SAYING, HEY,
11:17:29AM LOOK, HERE IS THE APPLICATION, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON
11:17:31AM IT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA?
11:17:32AM BECAUSE WE DID MAKE THE REQUEST.
11:17:34AM WE DID MAKE THE REQUEST.
11:17:36AM I THINK THAT IS A GOOD POINT WHICH IS YOU DON'T WANT
11:17:40AM SOMETHING TO LANGUISH, BUT IF YOU START SOMETHING, TO QUOTE
11:17:44AM VAN HALEN, YOU HAVE TO FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED.
11:17:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VAN HALEN WITH EDDIE VAN HALEN AND DAVID
11:17:48AM LEE ROTH.
11:17:49AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:17:56AM MY WRONG VAN HALEN.
11:17:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE'S JUST STANDING THERE.
11:18:00AM SAY SOMETHING.
11:18:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHICH VAN HALEN DO YOU LIKE BETTER?
11:18:07AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I'M OLD SCHOOL.
11:18:09AM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
11:18:14AM I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION PRIOR TO GETTING TO ME BECAUSE I
11:18:18AM THINK AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION YOU ALL HAVE PROVIDED A VERY
11:18:21AM GOOD OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM AND NOT ONLY WHERE, FROM MY
11:18:26AM PERSPECTIVE WE'VE COME FROM IN THE LAST, ESPECIALLY THE LAST
11:18:30AM FEW RECENT YEARS, TO WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
11:18:32AM A PROGRAM THAT WE THINK AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL THINK IS MORE
11:18:38AM EQUITABLE, FIRST OF ALL, A PROGRAM THAT, AS YOU SAID,
11:18:43AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SPEAKS TO MORE OF AN OBJECTIVE DRIVEN
11:18:48AM DONATION, IF YOU WILL, TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS AS OPPOSED TO
11:18:51AM HERE'S MONEY AND WE HOPE YOU DO GOOD WORK.
11:18:55AM I HAVE VERY FEW, LIKE TWO OR THREE SLIDES JUST TO KIND OF
11:19:02AM LEVEL SET.
11:19:03AM I DID WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR COMMENT, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:19:08AM YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT, I THINK, FROM A FISCAL YEAR, A SINGLE
11:19:12AM FISCAL YEAR PERSPECTIVE, IT'S FIVE, SIX MILLION DOLLARS.
11:19:17AM IT'S NOT THE BIGGEST PORTION OF OUR BUDGET BY ANY MEANS, BUT
11:19:21AM WE HAVE GONE BACK, AND WE CAN GO BACK SOMEWHAT EASILY TO
11:19:26AM 2014 GIVEN OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND IT'S BEEN OVER $50
11:19:29AM MILLION THAT HAVE BEEN CONTRIBUTED TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS
11:19:32AM SINCE 2014.
11:19:34AM SO IT ADDS UP, AS MOST THINGS OFTEN DO.
11:19:39AM IF I COULD HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.
11:19:41AM THANK YOU.
11:19:41AM I APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE, COUNCIL.
11:19:44AM AGAIN, JUST TO LEVEL SET ON SOME OF THE TERMINOLOGY, AS YOU
11:19:48AM SAID, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, THOSE NONPROFITS THAT RECEIVED
11:19:52AM $25,000 OR MORE, WE REQUIRE -- THIS IS A RELATIVELY RECENT
11:19:57AM DEVELOPMENT, WE REQUIRE AN AGREEMENT FOR SOME TIME THIS WAS
11:20:01AM NOT A REQUIREMENT.
11:20:02AM JUST GOING OFF MEMORY, FOR SOME TIME WE HAD ABOUT HALF OF
11:20:05AM OUR NONPROFITS THAT WERE NOT BEHOLDEN TO AN AGREEMENT AND WE
11:20:08AM HAD ABOUT HALF OF OUR NONPROFITS THAT WERE.
11:20:11AM NOW EACH OTHER AND EVERY ONE THAT RECEIVES $25,000 OR MORE
11:20:16AM IS.
11:20:17AM NONAGREEMENTS, ORGANIZATIONS RECEIVING $24,999 A YEAR -- PER
11:20:24AM YEAR OR LESS.
11:20:25AM NOW, THIS IS NOT TO SAY WE DON'T TRY TO HOLD THEM
11:20:27AM ACCOUNTABLE, BUT IT IS IN SOME INSTANCES A SUBSTANTIALLY
11:20:32AM LESS AMOUNT SO YOU WANT TO BALANCE THAT SCRUTINY AND
11:20:35AM OBJECTIVITY WITH HOW MUCH MONEY YOU ARE GIVING THEM.
11:20:39AM WE HAVE A SINGLE PAGE THAT WE REVIEW QUARTERLY AND IN MOST
11:20:43AM CASES PRIOR TO ISSUING THE CHECK, WHAT HAD THEY DONE DURING
11:20:46AM THAT QUARTER.
11:20:47AM CITY ASSETS, OF COURSE, YOU SEE THEM LISTED BELOW.
11:20:50AM THESE ARE CITY-OWNED ASSETS THAT I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR
11:20:52AM WITH, OPERATED BY NONPROFITS.
11:20:54AM THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT AND MORE RESTRICTIVE SET OF
11:20:58AM REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR ASSETS ACTING ON OUR
11:21:05AM BEHALF.
11:21:05AM SO WE HAVE -- WE COULD CALL THEM AGREEMENT AGENCIES, BUT WE
11:21:09AM DO LIKE TO SEPARATE THEM OUT BECAUSE WE OWN THEM.
11:21:14AM JUST TO GET THE TERMINOLOGY THERE.
11:21:16AM PRIOR TO THE CURRENT SITUATION, YOU SEE PRE-SOCIAL ACTION
11:21:27AM AND ARTS FUND.
11:21:28AM IT'S GONE BY MANY NAMES.
11:21:30AM IT HAS BEEN THE NONDEPARTMENTAL FUND.
11:21:32AM IT'S BEEN SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS FUND.
11:21:35AM I'VE FORGOTTEN SOME OF THE NAMES.
11:21:37AM NOW WE LIKE TO PUT IT UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA SO WE ALL KNOW
11:21:40AM WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
11:21:41AM PRIOR TO THE CURRENT SETUP, THE MAYOR RECOMMENDED FUNDING
11:21:44AM LEVELS FOR BOTH CITY-OWNED ASSETS AND NONPROFITS WITHIN THE
11:21:48AM PROPOSED BUDGET.
11:21:49AM COUNCIL EITHER ADOPTED MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION AND TRY NOT TO
11:21:51AM READ THE ENTIRE SLIDE OR AMENDED AND IN SOME INSTANCES
11:21:54AM ADDED.
11:21:55AM WE HAVE A VERY SIMILAR -- I'LL PUSH THIS UP NOW FOR THOSE
11:22:01AM SEEING THE CLOSED CAPTIONING -- MAYOR RECOMMENDS FUNDING
11:22:04AM LEVELS FOR CITY-OWNED ASSETS, ET CETERA.
11:22:06AM NONPROFITS ARE INVITED TO REQUEST SOCIAL ACTION ARTS FUNDING
11:22:09AM BY APPLYING AND/OR WE STILL RECEIVE COUNCIL REQUESTS.
11:22:13AM AND HERE IS WHERE I THINK WE'VE REALLY CHANGED
11:22:17AM PHILOSOPHICALLY.
11:22:19AM NOW IT'S ABOUT THE OUTCOMES.
11:22:21AM WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THE FUNDING THE CITY IS GIVING YOU?
11:22:24AM ACCOUNTABILITY, ALIGNMENT WITH OUR STRATEGIC -- WHEN I SAY
11:22:27AM OUR, OUR OBJECTIVES AS REFERENCED AND AS IDENTIFIED AND
11:22:32AM FUNDED IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET THAT THE MAYOR SUBMITS AND
11:22:36AM COUNCIL ADOPTS.
11:22:38AM LEVERAGING THE CITY RESOURCES.
11:22:40AM WE DO, A, CAN SOME OF THE NONPROFITS AUGMENT, ACCELERATE,
11:22:45AM IMPROVE A BY GIVING THEM MONEY AND THEY DO B AND THAT'S WHAT
11:22:49AM IT'S ALL ABOUT, RIGHT?
11:22:50AM THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
11:22:53AM FOR CITY-OWNED AND AGREEMENTS, YOU SEE THE REQUEST TO BOTH
11:23:05AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S COMMENTS,
11:23:07AM CITY COUNCIL REQUEST.
11:23:08AM OF COURSE, IDEALLY, IT'S BEST TO GET THE REQUEST DURING THE
11:23:12AM BUDGET PROCESS, BUT I THINK BOTH COUNCIL AND THE
11:23:15AM ADMINISTRATION, WE CAN BE SHOWN WE CAN BE VERY FLEXIBLE.
11:23:19AM NEEDS ARISE AND WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THOSE NEEDS IN AN
11:23:25AM APPLICATION.
11:23:25AM DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE MAYOR OR CITY
11:23:28AM COUNCIL.
11:23:28AM WE RECEIVE INFORMATION AND WE SERVICE IT.
11:23:32AM REQUEST THE APPLICATION PROCESS, RECEIPT, REVIEW, FUNDING
11:23:36AM DECISION, AND THEN AGAIN THIS IS RELATIVELY NEW, ASSIGNED TO
11:23:40AM THE APPROPRIATE PORTFOLIO OF AN ADMINISTRATOR.
11:23:44AM AGAIN, KEEPING WITH THE LEVERAGING AND ACCOUNTABILITY, MAKE
11:23:47AM SURE THAT THE SERVICES BEING PROVIDED -- I'LL SPEAK TO THAT
11:23:51AM IN JUST A MOMENT, THE SERVICES BEING PROVIDED NOT ONLY ALIGN
11:23:54AM WITH WHAT WE WANT TO DO AS A CITY, BUT ALSO ALIGN WITH THE
11:23:59AM CAPABILITIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE
11:24:04AM CITY.
11:24:05AM SO WE'RE ALL SAILING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
11:24:07AM THEN YOU CAN MONITOR CONTRACT, PERFORMANCE, APPROVES
11:24:11AM PAYMENT.
11:24:11AM I LOOKED OVER TALKING ABOUT MORE DETAIL TO MS. KOPESKY HERE,
11:24:22AM AND IF I'M EVER REMISS FROM NOT THANKING HER IT'S BECAUSE I
11:24:22AM AM REMISS.
11:24:24AM WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE WITH US ON MANY
11:24:28AM ISSUES.
11:24:29AM APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP AND, OF COURSE, SHE WAS OF GREAT
11:24:33AM ASSISTANCE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.
11:24:35AM SO HAVING SAID THAT, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE THINK AND IT
11:24:39AM SOUNDS LIKE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WE THINK THE PROCESS HAS
11:24:41AM BEEN IMPROVED.
11:24:44AM AGAIN, WE CAN REMAIN FLEXIBLE.
11:24:47AM PLANNING IS ALWAYS BEST, BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED VARIOUS
11:24:51AM INPUTS.
11:24:52AM WE'VE HEARD, HEY, THE PROCESS HAS BEEN IMPROVED.
11:24:55AM IT'S MORE EQUITABLE.
11:24:56AM THAT'S GREAT.
11:24:57AM DRIVE ON.
11:24:58AM WE HEARD, AS YOU SAID, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, HEY, MAYBE WE
11:25:01AM WANT TO DO LESS APPROPRIATIONS FOR A GREATER NUMBER OF
11:25:04AM ORGANIZATIONS.
11:25:05AM MAYBE WE WANT TO -- WE'VE ALSO HEARD MAYBE WE WANT TO
11:25:09AM ELIMINATE OR SET A SUNSET PERIOD FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
11:25:14AM RECEIVED FUNDING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
11:25:17AM MAYBE WE WANT TO START FROM ZERO EACH AND EVERY YEAR AND
11:25:23AM BUILD UP FROM THEN.
11:25:24AM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME.
11:25:26AM WE ARE REALLY HERE TO SUPPORT YOU AND YOUR DISCUSSIONS AND
11:25:30AM PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU WOULD LIKE.
11:25:32AM THANK YOU.
11:25:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:25:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:25:37AM I APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION.
11:25:38AM I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD.
11:25:40AM WE HAD A BIT OF IT BEFORE DURING BUDGET TIME, SO I'M GLAD
11:25:43AM WE'RE COMING BACK TO IT.
11:25:45AM I DO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF SUNSETTING, MOVING THINGS ON.
11:25:50AM SO WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO IS I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IF I HEARD
11:25:56AM THE CATEGORIZATION CORRECTLY.
11:25:58AM AND THIS JUST MIGHT BE ME.
11:26:02AM SO THE CITY-OWNED ASSETS, I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE
11:26:08AM A SEPARATE CATEGORY.
11:26:12AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO FUND.
11:26:14AM TO ME, THAT IS NOT A SOCIAL ACTION IN ART ISSUE.
11:26:17AM IT'S US TAKING CARE OF OUR RESOURCES OF WHAT WE OWN.
11:26:23AM IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY.
11:26:24AM IT'S NOT AN OPTION, WHEREAS I FIND THAT THE SOCIAL ACTION
11:26:28AM THINGS, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE CHOOSING TO TAKE ON.
11:26:30AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OUT.
11:26:32AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I THINK WE
11:26:36AM TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND MAKE SURE WE MOVE THAT TO NOT BE A
11:26:40AM SOCIAL ACTION ART FUND BECAUSE SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS AND
11:26:44AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARE WILDLY DIFFERENT.
11:26:46AM SO IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN A DIFFERENT
11:26:50AM LIGHT, LET'S DO THAT.
11:26:52AM AGAIN, MAYBE WE HAVE A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY FOR THAT.
11:26:56AM MAYBE WE DIVIDE THIS POT OF MONEY.
11:26:58AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:26:58AM I'M JUST THROWING THAT IDEA OUT THERE.
11:27:01AM BUT AS FAR AS TALKING ABOUT SUNSETTING ORGANIZATIONS, SINCE
11:27:04AM THIS IS A NEW IDEA, I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THAT.
11:27:10AM MAYBE PUTTING FOLKS WHO HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING FOR FIVE OR
11:27:13AM MORE YEARS ON NOTICE THIS YEAR THAT WE WILL BE.
11:27:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVALUATING?
11:27:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: -- WELL, THAT THEIR FUNDING WILL COME TO AN
11:27:26AM END IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS SO THAT THEY HAVE TIME.
11:27:28AM BECAUSE AS A NONPROFIT, IT TAKES TIME TO FIND A NEW FUNDING
11:27:31AM STREAM.
11:27:31AM IF WE LET THEM KNOW THIS YEAR AND THAT NEXT YEAR THEY CAN
11:27:34AM RECEIVE SOME FUNDING, BUT THEN BY THAT THIRD YEAR, WE NEED
11:27:38AM TO START TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 50% OF THE FUNDING THAT THEY
11:27:41AM HAVE GOTTEN SO THEY CAN WORK ON MOVING AND FINDING OTHER
11:27:45AM FUNDING SOURCES.
11:27:46AM SO THAT WOULD BE MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION, A LETTER TO
11:27:51AM THOSE FOLKS LETTING THEM KNOW THAT IN THREE YEARS, FUNDING
11:27:56AM WILL DISAPPEAR.
11:27:58AM AND THEN ON THE LAST YEAR, DOING THAT FUNDING BY HALF AND
11:28:02AM THEN LETTING ANYBODY ELSE WHO COMES TO REQUEST MONEY TO KNOW
11:28:08AM IT WOULD BE MAYBE A FIVE-YEAR PROCESS AND THEN EVERY YEAR IT
11:28:14AM WOULD BE REEVALUATED, NOT JUST ABSOLUTELY YOU'LL GET THIS
11:28:17AM AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT THEM COMING IN AND SAYING, HEY, YOU
11:28:20AM KNOW, WE ARE RAMPING UP, SO WE MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE
11:28:23AM THIS YEAR, BUT BY THAT LAST YEAR, THEY ARE ONLY GOING TO GET
11:28:26AM HALF OF WHAT THEY NORMALLY GET SO THEY CAN WORK ON FINDING
11:28:31AM -- THAT DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
11:28:32AM OKAY.
11:28:33AM LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN.
11:28:34AM A FIVE-YEAR CAP WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WORK WITH THEM DURING
11:28:40AM THAT FIVE YEARS.
11:28:41AM IT'S NOT JUST GIVE THEM THE MONEY AND THEN THEY COME BACK
11:28:44AM NEXT YEAR.
11:28:44AM IT'S GIVE THEM THE MONEY.
11:28:46AM YOU'RE PUTTING THEM UNDER A CURRENT DEPARTMENT, SO THEY NEED
11:28:55AM TO BE WORKING WITH THAT DEPARTMENT.
11:28:56AM SAY SOMEONE COMES TO US FOR AN AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM AND THEY
11:29:00AM JUST WANT TO GET IT STARTED.
11:29:02AM AND IT'S GOING REALLY WELL.
11:29:03AM SO THEY NEED TO RAMP UP AND MAYBE -- WE START WITH 50,000.
11:29:07AM MAYBE THEY NEED $65,000 THE NEXT YEAR.
11:29:10AM WELL, IN THAT THIRD YEAR, WE'RE HELPING THEM FIND OTHER
11:29:13AM SOURCES SO IT WILL GO DOWN TO 50 AGAIN.
11:29:17AM LIKE JUST WORKING WITH FOLKS.
11:29:18AM NOT JUST AUTOMATICALLY GIVING THE MONEY AND WIPING OUR HANDS
11:29:21AM AND WALKING AWAY, BUT PROVIDING THOSE RESOURCES TO OTHER
11:29:24AM NONPROFIT AGENCIES, PROVIDING RESOURCES TO HELP THEM LEARN
11:29:28AM HOW TO DO GRANTS.
11:29:29AM SO BASICALLY KIND OF WHAT WE DO FOR SMALL BUSINESS BUT FOR
11:29:33AM THE NONPROFIT.
11:29:34AM I THINK THIS OPENS UP AN IDEA OF ALL SORTS OF THINGS AND
11:29:37AM THEN WE GIVE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, LIKE COUNCILWOMAN
11:29:39AM HENDERSON SAID, A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE TO GET THAT
11:29:42AM OPPORTUNITY.
11:29:42AM SO I BELIEVE THAT EVEN IF THEY DON'T GET -- IF THEY DON'T
11:29:49AM HAVE TO HAVE A WRITTEN AGREEMENT UNDER $25,000, THEY SHOULD
11:29:54AM STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT WE'RE GOING TO
11:29:58AM PROVIDE TO NONPROFITS OF GRANT WRITING, OF CONNECTION TO
11:30:03AM OTHER ITEMS.
11:30:03AM SO THAT'S BASICALLY --
11:30:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AGREE.
11:30:07AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:30:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:30:11AM I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE SOME FORM OF THAT, WHICH IS AFTER
11:30:16AM SOME YEARS WE TRANSITION IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
11:30:21AM ANOTHER THING, AND THE IDEA OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES BEING
11:30:24AM SET ASIDE FROM THAT I THINK MAKES SENSE.
11:30:26AM I WAS ALWAYS KIND OF CONFUSED IN SEEING SOME OF THESE
11:30:30AM INSTITUTIONS THERE, BECAUSE THEY ARE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT.
11:30:33AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE, HOW SHALL I SAY THIS?
11:30:38AM PERFECT EXAMPLE, WE GOT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR VETERANS
11:30:41AM HELPING VETERANS.
11:30:41AM I'M UNAWARE IN THE PAST OF ANY VETERANS ORGANIZATION IN THE
11:30:44AM PAST GETTING ANY FUNDS.
11:30:46AM I REMEMBER COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT HISPANIC, LATINO
11:30:50AM ORGANIZATIONS.
11:30:51AM AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
11:30:54AM WE GOT INTO NEW TAMPA PLAYERS, THE PENGUIN PROJECT.
11:30:58AM SO MAKING SURE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM
11:31:03AM AN ORGANIZATION, IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE GO FROM THE
11:31:05AM METHODIST, LET'S JUMP TO THE PRESBYTERIANS, THERE ARE A LOT
11:31:08AM OF DIFFERENT GROUPS RIGHT UNDER AN UMBRELLA THAT COULD
11:31:12AM BENEFIT.
11:31:12AM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PRESENCE FOR
11:31:16AM VETERANS, THAT WE HAVE A PRESENCE FOR PEOPLE WITH
11:31:18AM DISABILITIES.
11:31:20AM THAT'S HUGE.
11:31:22AM MAKING SURE THAT WE DO TARGET ORGANIZATIONS FOR PEOPLE WITH
11:31:25AM DISABILITIES.
11:31:26AM AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE JUST ONE, BY THE WAY.
11:31:29AM BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE DO THAT.
11:31:30AM I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
11:31:32AM BUT SOME LEVEL OF BREAKING AWAY AFTER FIVE YEARS, I CAN
11:31:37AM SUPPORT.
11:31:38AM MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT ORGANIZATIONS MAKING OVER A CERTAIN
11:31:41AM AMOUNT, OVER 15, 25 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
11:31:43AM WHATEVER.
11:31:45AM GOD EXAMPLE, I REQUESTED FOR THE TAMPA CITY BALLET, GREAT
11:31:50AM ORGANIZATION THAT'S RUN BY A BUNCH OF NICE WOMEN FROM
11:31:53AM VENEZUELA, AMONG OTHER PLACES, FOR FUNDS, GOT THEM FOR
11:31:57AM $15,000.
11:31:58AM YOU KNOW, I'D HATE FOR THIS TO BE THEIR YEAR ONE, MAKE MORE
11:32:05AM MONEY.
11:32:05AM THEY ARE A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
11:32:06AM SOME LEVEL OF MOVING AWAY I THINK MAKES SENSE AND I COULD
11:32:09AM SUPPORT THAT.
11:32:10AM BUT WE DO NEED CATEGORIES, MAKE SURE THAT CERTAIN CATEGORIES
11:32:14AM ARE IN THERE.
11:32:18AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I COULD SPEAK TO BOTH COUNCILMAN VIERA
11:32:20AM AND I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S PREVIOUS COMMENTS ABOUT
11:32:25AM CATEGORIZATION AND I'M THROWING THIS OUT AND MAYBE YOU
11:32:27AM THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
11:32:29AM MS. KOPESKY HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF CATEGORIZING THE
11:32:34AM VARIOUS SUBJECTS OF THE FUNDING.
11:32:35AM ON THE FRONT END, YOU COULD ENTERTAIN IDENTIFYING SPECIFIC
11:32:38AM AMOUNTS OF FUNDING FOR EACH CATEGORY AND THEN PARSING THAT
11:32:42AM FUNDING OUT TO PARTICULAR NONPROFITS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY.
11:32:45AM WE'VE DONE IT ON THE BACK END.
11:32:46AM YOU MAY CONSIDER DOING IT ON THE FRONT END.
11:32:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND HENDERSON.
11:32:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THE CATEGORIES ARE
11:32:59AM CRITICALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE MY FRIENDS WHO WORK FOR
11:33:04AM FOUNDATIONS SAY YOU THINK IT IS A GREAT JOB BECAUSE YOU'RE
11:33:07AM APPROVING GIVING --
11:33:12AM >> SORRY.
11:33:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU THINK IT IS A GREAT JOB BECAUSE YOU'RE
11:33:15AM GIVING MONEY AWAY ALL DAY, BUT REALITY IS 98% OF THE TIME
11:33:19AM THEY ARE REJECTING SOMEBODY FOR MONEY.
11:33:21AM IT'S EASIER IF YOU HAVE THE CATEGORIES AND KIND OF MEASURES
11:33:24AM UP THERE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW THEY DON'T QUALIFY.
11:33:29AM IT'S HARD, BUT AT LEAST THAT GIVES THEM AN EASY WAY TO FIND
11:33:33AM IT ON THE WEBSITE.
11:33:34AM AND THEN HAVE CRITERIA THERE FOR HOW THEY COULD DO IT.
11:33:37AM BECAUSE IT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE CITY
11:33:44AM COUNCIL, A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE THAT COMES OUT OF
11:33:46AM COMMUNICATION TALKS ABOUT T-3, TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S
11:33:50AM TOMORROW.
11:33:51AM THAT IS THE MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENT.
11:33:52AM THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE THING.
11:33:53AM I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT TALKS ABOUT THE CITY,
11:33:59AM NOT THE MAYOR OR CITY COUNCIL.
11:34:01AM I THINK ALSO THAT WE SHOULD REALLY CENTER -- THERE ARE
11:34:08AM CATEGORIES, BUT THEN OVERALL, WE SHOULD CENTER AROUND
11:34:11AM INNOVATION AND SERVICE GAPS.
11:34:13AM IDEALLY IT WOULD BE CALLED LIKE SERVICE INNOVATION GRANTS OR
11:34:17AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:34:18AM BECAUSE WE WANT TO PROMOTE INNOVATION IN THE COMMUNITY, AND
11:34:22AM INNOVATION COULD LEAD TO MORE PERMANENT POLICY SOLUTIONS.
11:34:26AM BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE KIND OF FUNDING TO BETA TEST
11:34:30AM IDEAS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING ON.
11:34:32AM AND THEN IF IT'S RELATED TO ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS WE MIGHT
11:34:35AM FUND, MAYBE THERE WOULD BE MORE PERMANENT THING IN SOME
11:34:38AM OTHER BUDGET.
11:34:39AM REALLY WE'RE PAYING FOR INNOVATION.
11:34:41AM AND THEN SERVICE GAPS, LIKE IN THE CASE WE MENTIONED IN
11:34:44AM SULPHUR SPRINGS A LITTLE WHILE AGO, DIDN'T HAVE A POOL IN
11:34:47AM THE SUMMER.
11:34:48AM NEEDED SOME OTHER STUDENT PROGRAM SO WE QUICK FUNDED
11:34:50AM SOMETHING.
11:34:51AM THERE MIGHT BE OTHER SERVICE GAPS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A
11:34:55AM SITUATION WHERE THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO NEED TO FIND
11:34:59AM HOMES, MAYBE A NONPROFIT CAN HELP PEOPLE FIND PLACES TO RENT
11:35:02AM QUICKLY.
11:35:03AM SO, AGAIN, SERVICE GAP.
11:35:06AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T LOOK POLITICAL.
11:35:11AM IT SHOULDN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO BUY VOTES IN A
11:35:15AM CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD OR CERTAIN COMMUNITY OR WITH CERTAIN
11:35:18AM POLICY AREA.
11:35:19AM IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE THAT -- IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHERE
11:35:25AM THE ORGANIZATION IS OR WHAT THE NAMES ARE.
11:35:28AM WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS, ARE YOU PROVIDING INNOVATION OR
11:35:31AM PROVIDING A SERVICE GAP?
11:35:32AM MOST IMPORTANTLY AT THE END, IDEALLY IT WOULD TIE TO
11:35:36AM MEASURABLE OUTCOMES.
11:35:37AM AN OUTCOME IS NOT HOW MANY KIDS YOU HAD IN A PROGRAM.
11:35:40AM AN OUTCOME IS HOW DO YOU SYSTEMICALLY CHANGE THE PER CAPITA
11:35:47AM INCOME IN A COMMUNITY OR HOW DO YOU HELP MORE PEOPLE TO FIND
11:35:51AM HOMES TO RENT OR HOW DO YOU HELP MORE PEOPLE BUY HOMES?
11:35:54AM THOSE ARE OUTCOMES.
11:35:56AM THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU TRAIN IN A HUD PROGRAM IS
11:35:59AM IMPORTANT, BUT THAT'S OUTPUT, NOT OUTCOME.
11:36:02AM ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO BE TRACKING AGAINST OUTCOME.
11:36:04AM OUTCOME IN THE HOUSING THING IS EITHER GETTING PEOPLE IN
11:36:08AM RENTAL HOMES OR GET PEOPLE TO BUY HOMES.
11:36:11AM WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ULTIMATE NUMBERS.
11:36:12AM THANK YOU.
11:36:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:36:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:36:17AM I REMEMBER WE TOOK OUT THE MILLION DOLLARS AND PUT IT UNDER
11:36:21AM HOUSING, I BELIEVE, CHIEF.
11:36:23AM DID WE TAKE A MILLION DOLLARS HOUSE AND PUT IT UNDER HOUSING
11:36:26AM FOR UNHOUSED FOLKS BECAUSE IT WAS ALSO UNDER SOCIAL ACTION.
11:36:30AM I MADE A MOTION MONTHS AGO DURING BUDGET SEASON, I BELIEVE,
11:36:36AM AND IT WAS UNANIMOUS THAT WE ACTUALLY INFORM EVERY
11:36:40AM ORGANIZATION THAT THEY ARE NOT GUARANTEED TO GET FUNDING, AM
11:36:44AM I CORRECT ABOUT THAT?
11:36:45AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
11:36:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALREADY PUT THEM ON NOTICE THAT THERE'S
11:36:48AM NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE FUNDING.
11:36:51AM GOSH, MY 60-YEAR-OLD BRAIN.
11:36:59AM I LOST THAT THOUGHT.
11:37:00AM OKAY.
11:37:08AM I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO LET IT GO.
11:37:11AM I APOLOGIZE FOR YOU ALL SEEING THIS BRAIN FREEZE.
11:37:13AM YES, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS AND IT WAS ACTUALLY
11:37:17AM IMPORTANT.
11:37:18AM I WANT TO THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, I DO WANT TO DO THAT AS
11:37:21AM WELL FOR EVEN HELPING US BREAK THESE CATEGORIES DOWN.
11:37:26AM THAT MAKES IT A LOT CLEANER TO UNDERSTAND.
11:37:33AM I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK UP HERE.
11:37:34AM BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
11:37:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU TALKED ABOUT WARNING ORGANIZATIONS THAT
11:37:40AM THEY WOULDN'T GET CONTINUING, ONGOING FUNDING.
11:37:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: REMEMBER WHEN HE SAID, INITIALLY HE SAID,
11:37:46AM THANK YOU, IT TRIGGERED THIS.
11:37:50AM I LIKE THIS LANGUAGE BECAUSE I COULD USE THIS WHEN I'M
11:37:53AM TALKING TO THE PUBLIC AND GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT THE
11:37:56AM DATA, 2014, WE DO SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE TUNE OF $50
11:38:01AM MILLION.
11:38:01AM THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:38:03AM A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN IN THERE A VERY LONG
11:38:07AM TIME.
11:38:08AM WHICH MEANS WE'VE SUPPORTED YOU TO THE TUNE OF MILLIONS OF
11:38:12AM DOLLARS.
11:38:12AM THE PART THAT CONCERNS ME IS THE OVER-LOBBYING OF US.
11:38:20AM I WAS APPROACHED WITH ONE IN MY DISTRICT, AND I DID MAKE A
11:38:25AM REQUEST FROM THE MAYOR.
11:38:27AM AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE AMOUNT.
11:38:29AM SO THAT KIND OF CONCERNED ME BECAUSE IT PUTS US IN THIS
11:38:33AM PICKLE WHERE THEY EVEN GOT MORE FROM THE MAYOR THAN WHAT I
11:38:39AM INITIALLY EVEN ASKED FOR BUT THEN THEY STARTED LOBBYING THE
11:38:43AM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:38:44AM THAT KIND OF MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE TOO BECAUSE I KNEW THAT
11:38:50AM SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS -- YOU KNOW, I KNEW WE WOULD BE PUTTING
11:38:55AM THIS UNDER REVIEW.
11:38:57AM WHY START WITH THE HIGH AMOUNT WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE
11:39:00AM OUT WHERE WE WANT TO GO IN TERMS OF ALL ORGANIZATIONS.
11:39:04AM THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT TO GET ON THE BOARD, YOU
11:39:10AM GET ON THE BOARD AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
11:39:13AM TO GET ON THE BOARD, YOU GET ON THE BOARD, 5,000 OR 25,000
11:39:17AM DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE DOING.
11:39:19AM BECAUSE THE EQUITY BECOMES THE ISSUE.
11:39:22AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIST, WHY DID THEY GET $250,000?
11:39:26AM AND THEN WHY DO THEY ONLY GET 7,000?
11:39:31AM IT BECOMES THIS DISPARITY THAT MAKES ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
11:39:35AM BECAUSE WE -- I DON'T WANT TO TEAR AN ORGANIZATION APART,
11:39:40AM BUT THEY HAVE BEEN AT THIS HIGH AMOUNT FOR A LONG TIME AND
11:39:44AM THEY -- BUT THEN OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING SERVICED.
11:39:49AM THAT PART CONCERNS ME A LOT.
11:39:52AM AND THAT'S WHEN IT BECOMES POLITICAL.
11:39:55AM ANYWAY, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE REAL POINT.
11:39:59AM I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER IT AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP RUNNING MY
11:40:02AM MOUTH.
11:40:02AM I'LL STOP.
11:40:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND HURTAK.
11:40:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A SYSTEM THAT TELLS
11:40:07AM YOU EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
11:40:10AM AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THERE IS A REVIEW.
11:40:13AM AM I CORRECT?
11:40:13AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
11:40:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DURING THOSE REVIEWS, SOME MAY GO UP AND
11:40:17AM SOME MAY GO DOWN DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, THAT
11:40:20AM SOURCE.
11:40:20AM AND I KNOW THAT WILL CONTINUE.
11:40:23AM IT'S DIFFICULT TO START ONE.
11:40:24AM IT'S DIFFICULT TO STAY ON.
11:40:29AM THINGS CHANGE, CLIMATE-WISE, MONETARY-WISE, INTEREST
11:40:33AM RATE-WISE.
11:40:34AM PEOPLE DO THINGS THAT SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T COMPLETE BECAUSE
11:40:38AM THINGS CHANGE AROUND THEM.
11:40:40AM DOING THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET ON THE LIST BECAUSE I WOULD
11:40:44AM SAY THAT THOSE THAT ARE THERE ARE CREATING A VERY AMOUNT --
11:40:51AM LET'S SAY YOU WANT SOMETHING HUNDRED PERCENT, HUNDRED
11:40:53AM PERCENT VERY DIFFICULT, BUT IT IS A GOAL THAT WE ALL HAVE TO
11:40:56AM GET BETTER EVERY YEAR.
11:40:58AM SO THOSE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT WE DO BUSINESS WITH, I'LL
11:41:02AM CALL PRIVATE ENTITIES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ATTACHED TO THE
11:41:05AM GOVERNMENT.
11:41:06AM THEY GET MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT BUT WE DON'T TELL THEM
11:41:08AM HOW TO RUN IT OR HOW TO DO IT.
11:41:10AM I BELIEVE IN GENERAL TERMS THEY ARE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB,
11:41:14AM ALL OF THEM COMBINED.
11:41:15AM MAYBE SOME THAT CAN'T HIT THE GOAL OF SUSTAINABILITY
11:41:18AM THROUGHOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES MORE
11:41:21AM THAN LIKELY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT BACK SOME DEGREE.
11:41:26AM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAS DONE.
11:41:29AM IT'S TEDIOUS WORK, NOT EASY.
11:41:32AM I LIKE THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.
11:41:34AM IT'S FAIR AND EQUITABLE.
11:41:37AM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
11:41:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:41:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:41:40AM TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S POINT, I THINK A LOT OF THIS, I
11:41:47AM THINK WE SHOULD REALLY, WHEN FOLKS COME TO US AS COUNCIL
11:41:50AM MEMBERS TO REALLY JUST ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY TO THE
11:41:53AM APPLICATION AND NOT -- I BELIEVE THAT IS THE FAIREST WAY TO
11:41:58AM DO IT IS JUST TO APPLY FOR WHATEVER THEY NEED AND NOT APPLY
11:42:03AM NECESSARILY FOR A NUMBER.
11:42:05AM THEY HAVE TO NOW SHOW WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING WITH THE
11:42:07AM MONEY.
11:42:07AM INSTEAD OF $50,000, IT MIGHT BE $48,700 BECAUSE THEY WANT
11:42:12AM THESE SPECIFIC THINGS.
11:42:14AM WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM NOT TO ROUND BECAUSE WE WANT THEM
11:42:16AM TO ASK FOR ACTUALLY WHAT THEY NEED.
11:42:19AM I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
11:42:22AM IF IT'S NOT, IT OUGHT TO BE.
11:42:24AM SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED ARE IDEA FOR GOING FORWARD WITH
11:42:30AM THIS.
11:42:31AM SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO TAKE WHAT WE ALL SPOKE
11:42:38AM ABOUT TODAY AND WORK WITH MS. KOPESKY TO COME UP WITH JUST A
11:42:45AM COALITION OR A COALESCENCE OF THAT.
11:42:48AM I PERSONALLY WOULD ALSO REALLY LOVE TO SEE THE APPLICATION.
11:42:51AM IF YOU COULD E-MAIL US THE APPLICATION SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF
11:42:54AM WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
11:42:55AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
11:42:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE COME BACK TO US IN APRIL SO WE CAN
11:43:05AM DISCUSS SOME OF THESE CHANGES WE'D LIKE TO SEE.
11:43:09AM I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR BECAUSE I KNOW BUDGET SEASON
11:43:13AM STARTS SOON, BUT --
11:43:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TIMING.
11:43:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: APRIL WOULD BE GOOD?
11:43:20AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
11:43:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW -- I WOULD RATHER HAVE
11:43:26AM IT BE A WORKSHOP SESSION AGAIN.
11:43:28AM APRIL 24, I THINK THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THESE IDEAS WE
11:43:32AM CAME UP WITH, AND THEN WE CAN REALLY START TO SETTLE ON SOME
11:43:35AM THINGS GOING FORWARD.
11:43:37AM DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYONE?
11:43:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ALSO HAVE STEPPING-STONES AND OTHER
11:43:41AM ITEMS ON THAT AGENDA.
11:43:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: PERFECT.
11:43:43AM THERE YOU GO.
11:43:44AM APRIL 24.
11:43:45AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, ALL I ASK IS THAT HE TAKE A LOT OF
11:43:48AM THE IDEAS WE HAD, WORK WITH MS. KOPESKY, COALESCE AND COME
11:43:53AM BACK TO US AT THE END OF APRIL AT THE WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN
11:43:57AM MAKE MORE FINAL DECISIONS.
11:43:58AM IN THE MEANTIME, THEY'LL SEND US THE APPLICATION BECAUSE I'M
11:44:03AM CURIOUS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
11:44:05AM I WAS SAYING FOR WHAT YOU WERE MENTIONING IT'S VERY TRUE, WE
11:44:08AM NEED TO JUST SEND PEOPLE TO THE APPLICATION, NOT TAKE IT ON
11:44:12AM OURSELVES.
11:44:12AM WE NEED TO SEND IT TO THE APPLICATION AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE
11:44:16AM TO NOT ASK FOR A ROUND NUMBER BUT FOR WHAT THEY ACTUALLY
11:44:19AM NEED.
11:44:20AM SO LOOKING AT THE APPLICATION AND SEEING IF THERE ARE WAYS
11:44:23AM WE CAN MODIFY IT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ASKING FOR EXACTLY WHAT
11:44:27AM THEY NEED.
11:44:27AM YOU ALL ALREADY HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT FOLKS HAVE TO --
11:44:32AM IT HAS TO ALIGN WITH SOME OF THE VALUES.
11:44:34AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ON THE APPLICATION, IF THERE ARE FIVE
11:44:39AM THINGS, WHICH ONE DO YOU QUALIFY UNDER AND THAT SORT OF
11:44:44AM THING.
11:44:45AM I THINK THAT HELPS NARROWS PEOPLE'S FOCUS IF THEY HAVE A
11:44:50AM LARGE ORGANIZATION.
11:44:51AM IF THE FOCUS IS ON WHATEVER NUMBER THREE IS, THEY CAN SIMPLY
11:44:54AM ASK FOR THAT.
11:44:55AM MY MOTION IS TO HAVE YOU-ALL COME BACK ON APRIL 24th AT
11:45:00AM THE WORKSHOP TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
11:45:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
11:45:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:45:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:45:07AM OPPOSED?
11:45:07AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AND THEN
11:45:10AM HENDERSON?
11:45:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:45:11AM BECAUSE I REMEMBERED.
11:45:13AM I'M SO EXCITED.
11:45:15AM AND IN THAT DOCUMENTATION, ALSO, OUR APPLICATION ALSO NEEDS
11:45:22AM TO PROBABLY HAVE A BLURB ON THERE INDICATING THAT, YOU KNOW,
11:45:28AM THEY SHOULD CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR FUNDING IN OTHER WAYS.
11:45:32AM I REMEMBERED, YOU-ALL.
11:45:34AM EVERY TIME I GO SOMEWHERE AND I SEE THE CITY OF TAMPA LOGO
11:45:38AM THAT WE SPONSORED SOMETHING, IS THAT UNDER SOCIAL ACTION?
11:45:43AM THAT'S NEVER CLEAR TO ME, EVEN IN SOCIAL SETTINGS, I'VE BEEN
11:45:48AM AT PLACES, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT SAYS WE SUPPORTED, LIKE AT THE
11:45:53AM TOBA BREAKFAST, THE CITY OF TAMPA LOGO WAS THERE.
11:45:57AM WHAT PART OF THE BUDGET IS THAT?
11:46:10AM THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
11:46:11AM I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT FELL UNDER SOCIAL ACTION WHEN WE SUPPORT
11:46:15AM ORGANIZATIONS FROM SPONSORSHIP AND OUR LOGO APPEARS.
11:46:18AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT CAN.
11:46:21AM GOING FROM MEMORY I THINK THAT TYPICALLY FALLS UNDER IN-KIND
11:46:24AM SPECIAL EVENTS CONTRIBUTIONS WHEREIN AGAIN THE TOBA
11:46:27AM BREAKFAST IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
11:46:29AM SPONSORED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA, THAT WOULD COME THROUGH OUR
11:46:31AM SPECIAL EVENTS.
11:46:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WON'T BE NOSY AND DIP INTO THAT TODAY.
11:46:38AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: REASONABLE QUESTION.
11:46:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS A PART OF SOCIAL
11:46:43AM ACTION OR IF IT FELL INTO ANOTHER CATEGORY, BUT I'M SO GLAD
11:46:47AM I REMEMBERED.
11:46:47AM IN-KIND.
11:46:48AM I'LL LOOK FOR THAT ON THE BUDGET AND I'LL HAVE YOU POINT IT
11:46:51AM OUT TO ME.
11:46:52AM DOES GASPARILLA FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY?
11:46:56AM >> IT DOES.
11:46:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SPECIAL EVENTS.
11:46:59AM THAT COULD BE IT TOO.
11:47:00AM BLACK HISTORY -- CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM, OUR
11:47:04AM LOGO IS ON THAT AND THAT IS A CITY COMMITTEE AND HISPANIC
11:47:07AM HERITAGE, THAT IS A CITY COMMITTEE.
11:47:10AM AND OUR LOGO, OF COURSE, IS ON THOSE THINGS.
11:47:13AM BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
11:47:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
11:47:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:47:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THE
11:47:22AM ORGANIZATIONS I LISTED, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS EVER ASKED
11:47:26AM ME FROM MONEY FROM SOCIAL ACTION.
11:47:29AM ALL OF THEM SAW A NEED.
11:47:31AM THE PENGUIN PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, I SAW THEM HAVING TO FUND
11:47:34AM RAISE LIKE CRAZY SO THAT 40 YOUNG PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL
11:47:38AM DISABILITIES AND AUTISM AND DOWN SYNDROME COULD PERFORM IN
11:47:41AM PLAYS.
11:47:42AM I GO, WHY AREN'T WE HELPING?
11:47:44AM ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST AND I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE IT PART
11:47:47AM OF THE MOTION, AGAIN, FROM MY OWN OFFICE TRY TO SEE THAT
11:47:51AM NEXT YEAR WE DO HAVE MORE OF A PERCENTAGE FOR PEOPLE WITH
11:47:57AM DISABILITIES AS WELL AS VETERANS WHICH IS ONE PERCENT.
11:47:59AM THE VETERANS HELPING VETERANS WITH MICHAEL DELL DOES GREAT
11:48:04AM WORK.
11:48:04AM VETERANS TREATMENT COURT MENTORSHIP THAT THEY DO AMAZING,
11:48:07AM AMAZING WORK.
11:48:08AM I THINK THE COUNTY GIVES THEM MONEY.
11:48:10AM AGAIN, THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
11:48:14AM I WANT TO BE CLEAR, NOBODY CAME TO ME.
11:48:15AM I SAW A NEED ON THESE AREAS AND I WAS GLAD TO OFFER HELP
11:48:21AM THROUGH TAXPAYERS.
11:48:22AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I COULD JUST POSTSCRIPT THAT, THAT IS
11:48:25AM ANOTHER REASON WHY I LIKE, AGAIN, IN DISCUSSION WITH
11:48:28AM MS. KOPESKY, THIS CATEGORIZATION ON THE FRONT END.
11:48:32AM I WOULD HATE TO GET THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND YOU ALL
11:48:35AM REALIZE THAT SOME OF YOUR CATEGORIZATION PRIORITIZATIONS,
11:48:37AM WHETHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DISABILITY, HAVEN'T BEEN MET.
11:48:41AM IF WE DO THAT ON THE FRONT END, THAT WAY YOU'RE THINKING
11:48:44AM ABOUT IT, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE.
11:48:47AM THAT WAY IT WILL BE RIGHT UP FRONT.
11:48:49AM THIS CATEGORIZATION PRIORITIZATION -- THOSE ARE SOME WORDS
11:48:55AM -- ARE BEING MET.
11:48:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REMEMBER, OUR RULES SAY 1:00 ON THE
11:48:59AM WORKSHOP AND WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER.
11:49:00AM WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:49:02AM OUR FIRST SPEAKER FOR ITEM NUMBER 2 IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT
11:49:06AM FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:49:13AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:49:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARROLL ANN BENNETT, YOU ARE THE FIRST
11:49:23AM SPEAKER.
11:49:24AM COME ON UP.
11:49:29AM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT, I PASS.
11:49:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STEPHANIE POYNOR IS THE SECOND SPEAKER.
11:49:35AM >> HOW WAS I FIRST SPEAKER LAST TIME AND NOW SECOND SPEAKER?
11:49:39AM ANYWAY, ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE, FIRST OF ALL, THE SYSTEM, I
11:49:47AM LOOKED AT IT ONLINE AND IT SEEMS PRETTY CUMBERSOME, BUT I'D
11:49:50AM LIKE TO KNOW WHO MAKES THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHO GETS THE
11:49:53AM MONEY AND WHO DOESN'T.
11:49:55AM IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ANY CONSISTENT FLOW WITH THAT.
11:49:59AM THE OTHER THING, JANELLE REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS, BUT
11:50:03AM WE'VE GOT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WHO DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED
11:50:07AM DOLLARS TO OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT.
11:50:10AM WE, THANK GOODNESS, WERE HELPED BY THE CITY WITH OUR TREES
11:50:14AM THAT BROKE AT THE CIVIC CENTER BECAUSE THE AIR-CONDITIONER
11:50:18AM IS GOING OUT TOO.
11:50:19AM THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER WOULD HAVE BROKEN US OFF.
11:50:23AM WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT WITH THE COUNTY.
11:50:25AM WE WERE TOLD WE COULD NOT DO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE
11:50:29AM GRANTS FROM THE COUNTY.
11:50:31AM I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT FORMAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
11:50:36AM I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE FORMING NEIGHBORHOOD
11:50:40AM ASSOCIATIONS BE ABLE TO SET UP A CHECKING ACCOUNT, GET
11:50:44AM MAILERS PUT OUT, WHATEVER IT IS THEY NEED TO DO TO GET
11:50:47AM STARTED AND ACTUALLY STOOD UP.
11:50:48AM AND SOME OF THE MORE ESTABLISHED ENTITIES.
11:50:53AM I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT MINE.
11:50:55AM I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THEM HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO GOOD
11:50:59AM PROJECTS BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS ALWAYS GOT A LIST OF
11:51:02AM SOMETHING THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:51:05AM I JUST -- IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON THE BUDGET
11:51:08AM COMMITTEE FOR THREE, FOUR YEARS NOW, AND IT JUST CLICKED.
11:51:11AM I WAS LIKE, THE CITY DOES ZERO FUNDING FOR OUR
11:51:16AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:51:17AM THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
11:51:18AM SO I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF YOU ABOUT IT AND I HAVE TALKED
11:51:24AM -- I STARTED TALKING TO JANELLE ABOUT IT BUT I THINK IT
11:51:27AM NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
11:51:30AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LITTLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY.
11:51:31AM VERY, VERY SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY.
11:51:33AM I KNOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THEY WOULD HAVE GLADLY
11:51:36AM TAKEN A HUNDRED DOLLAR GRANT JUST TO GET THEIR BANK ACCOUNT
11:51:39AM OPEN.
11:51:40AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE
11:51:42AM CATEGORIES, THAT WE'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE HAVE
11:51:44AM VOLUNTEERS THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE CITY WHO SPEND THEIR MONEY
11:51:49AM TO DO ALL THIS STUFF.
11:51:50AM I KNOW CARROLL ANN AND SANDY AND I AND MOST OF THE OTHER
11:51:54AM NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS LIKE US, THAT MONEY COMES OUT OF OUR
11:51:59AM POCKETS, I MEAN STRAIGHT UP.
11:52:01AM THE ONLY MONEY THAN HAS SPENT IN THE LAST THREE AND A HALF
11:52:06AM YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT IS PAYING FOR OUR
11:52:08AM WEBSITE.
11:52:09AM WE PAID FOR ONE MAILING, AND THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE.
11:52:13AM I THINK THAT'S IT, AND OUR REGISTRATION FEES.
11:52:16AM EVERYTHING ELSE WE PAY FOR OURSELVES.
11:52:19AM PLEASE TAKE NEIGHBORHOODS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE
11:52:21AM MAKING THESE -- REVAMPING THIS LIST.
11:52:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:24AM ITEM NUMBER 3.
11:52:26AM ITEM NUMBER 3 WAS A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:52:34AM THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
11:52:36AM STAFF IS PRESENT HERE.
11:52:38AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, MR. HUDGISON IS HERE.
11:52:42AM DO YOU WANT TO KICK OFF THIS DISCUSSION?
11:52:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS HAVE COME AND SAID
11:52:54AM THAT OLDER TECHNOLOGIES OF TURF POLLUTE THE WATER AND THE
11:52:59AM GROUND.
11:53:01AM I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE IN THE TURF INDUSTRY WHO SAYS THE
11:53:04AM NEWER TECHNOLOGIES DON'T DO THAT.
11:53:06AM SOME PEOPLE THINK ARTIFICIAL TURF IS UGLY.
11:53:12AM SOME PEOPLE LOVE IT.
11:53:14AM IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN REASONABLY DO TO PROTECT THE
11:53:18AM ENVIRONMENT AND COMMUNITY WITH UPDATED STANDARDS?
11:53:20AM I THINK THE INDUSTRY WOULD, OF COURSE, LIKE THE UPDATED
11:53:23AM TECHNOLOGIES BECAUSE THEY COULD GO IN AND PUT NEW TURF DOWN.
11:53:27AM SOME OF THE OLDER TECHNOLOGIES I THINK ALLEGEDLY POLLUTE THE
11:53:31AM WATER AND THE LAND.
11:53:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. HUDGISON, YOU GAVE A WRITTEN REPORT,
11:53:40AM IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
11:53:42AM IF NOT, I'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:53:44AM MR. HUDGISON, COME ON UP.
11:53:48AM >>JC HUDGISON: CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CENTER MANAGER.
11:53:50AM JUST ON OUR END, KIND OF BASED OFF OF THE MEMO, ALL
11:53:56AM PERMITTED ARTIFICIAL TURF INSTALLATIONS MUST COMPLY WITH
11:54:00AM CURRENT STORMWATER TECHNICAL MANUALS, TREE AND LANDSCAPE
11:54:03AM MANUALS, CHAPTER 21 OF STORMWATER CODE AND CHAPTER 27 OF THE
11:54:06AM TREE AND LANDSCAPE CODE.
11:54:07AM THOSE EXISTING CODES THAT ARE IN PLACE SINCE WE STARTED OUR
11:54:11AM OFFICIAL PROCESS IN JANUARY 1 OF 2024 THE CITY HAS ISSUED 89
11:54:16AM PERMITS FOR ARTIFICIAL TURF INSTALLATIONS.
11:54:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, WE DID JUST
11:54:24AM PUT LEGISLATION IN FOR THIS, NOT THAT LONG AGO.
11:54:28AM WE WENT THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING.
11:54:30AM I THINK MY QUESTION FOR YOU ALL IS, IS THERE NEW TECHNOLOGY
11:54:34AM THAT WE NEED TO PUT -- IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO MODIFY
11:54:37AM THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT BETTER?
11:54:43AM >>JC HUDGISON: I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT SPECIFICALLY.
11:54:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:54:47AM >>JC HUDGISON: THOSE THINGS WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM
11:54:49AM STORMWATER TECHNICAL MANUAL, TREE AND LANDSCAPE, BECAUSE
11:54:52AM THOSE -- WE ARE ENFORCING WHAT'S IN PLACE.
11:54:54AM IDEALLY, IF THERE ARE NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT NEED TO BE
11:54:57AM SUGGESTED THEN THAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS MODIFYING THE
11:55:00AM TECHNICAL STANDARDS AND CHAPTER 27 AND CHAPTER 21 TO DO
11:55:04AM THAT.
11:55:05AM ARE THERE NEW TECHNOLOGIES?
11:55:08AM MORE THAN LIKELY.
11:55:09AM IDEALLY IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
11:55:11AM WHEN IT GETS TO PERMITTING WE'RE ENFORCING WHAT IS CURRENTLY
11:55:14AM ON THE BOOKS.
11:55:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL ASK MR. BHIDE TO COME UP.
11:55:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MICHELINI, I DON'T HAVE YOU ON THE
11:55:20AM SIGN-IN HERE FOR THIS PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:55:23AM JUST SIGN IN SO WE CAN PUT YOU ON THE LIST.
11:55:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. BHIDE, IS THERE ANYTHING NEW?
11:55:31AM I KNOW WE'RE ABOUT TO REVAMP -- WE'RE DOING QUITE A FEW
11:55:35AM AREAS OF STORMWATER.
11:55:38AM CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHERE WE ARE WITH ARTIFICIAL TURF AND
11:55:41AM STORMWATER AND IF WE ARE DOING ANY -- I KNOW WE'RE DOING A
11:55:45AM LOT OF UPDATES.
11:55:46AM TELL US WHAT MIGHT COME REGARDING TURF AND STORMWATER?
11:55:51AM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
11:55:52AM LET'S START WITH WHERE -- VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
11:55:56AM SO RIGHT NOW ARTIFICIAL TURF IS NOT ALLOWED ON THE
11:56:01AM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:56:01AM IT IS ALLOWED ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
11:56:04AM SO ABOUT A YEAR BACK, WE WORKED WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
11:56:09AM AND OUR STORMWATER ENGINEERING TEAM TO DEVELOP A STANDARD
11:56:13AM THAT WE HAD TESTED THROUGH LABS AND ALL THAT COULD OFFER
11:56:17AM PERMEABILITY OF ARTIFICIAL TURF.
11:56:21AM THAT STANDARD IS SOMEWHAT RIGID AND COSTS MORE TO THE
11:56:25AM DEVELOPERS, BUT WE HAD WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT FOLKS AND
11:56:31AM OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM AS WELL.
11:56:34AM SO THAT STANDARD AND THAT GUIDELINE IS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW
11:56:38AM FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
11:56:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT NOT FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:56:41AM >>VIK BHIDE: NOT FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:56:43AM ON RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND THESE ARE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS, WITH THE
11:56:49AM BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AT LEAST ONCE
11:56:53AM WITH THE PBA.
11:56:55AM WE HAVE CONCERNS FOR THREE REASONS.
11:56:56AM ONE IS THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT COOLING.
11:57:02AM THE SECOND IS REALLY THE CHALLENGE IS EVEN IF WE HAD HOLD
11:57:08AM HARMLESS AGREEMENTS WITH ABUTTING PRIVATE PROPERTIES FOR
11:57:11AM MAINTENANCE AND ALL OF THAT, OVER TIME WHAT HAPPENS IS IT'S
11:57:16AM VERY HARD TO ENFORCE THOSE AND HAVING KIND OF DIFFERENT
11:57:19AM TYPES OF PRODUCTS OUT THERE.
11:57:21AM AND THEN THE THIRD IS WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS
11:57:25AM RELATIVE TO PLASTICS AND THEIR POTENTIAL IMPACT AND JUST
11:57:30AM HAVING SOMETHING LIKE ARTIFICIAL TURF OPEN TO THE
11:57:35AM ENVIRONMENT AND THE SUN AND POTENTIAL FOR KIND OF WATER
11:57:39AM RUNNING OFF OF IT IS A CONCERN AS WELL.
11:57:43AM BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM, SAY, THE CITY OF
11:57:47AM ST. PETE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THEY DON'T ALLOW IT, THEY USED
11:57:51AM TO IS MY UNDERSTANDING, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO LEARN MORE
11:57:57AM BEFORE WE CAN ADOPT ANY CLEAR POSITION ALLOWING IT IN THE
11:58:00AM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:58:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IDEA OF
11:58:03AM RIGHT-OF-WAY ALLOWANCE BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S WHAT
11:58:06AM WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD IS WE MAINTAIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT
11:58:09AM THE CITY OR THE UTILITIES CAN COME ANYTIME AND DIG THAT
11:58:13AM RIGHT UP.
11:58:14AM SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS PLANTED BUSHES AND I WAS LIKE I WANT
11:58:17AM YOU TO KNOW YOUR BUSHES MAY NOT BE HERE IF THE CITY OR TECO
11:58:21AM NEEDS TO COME IN, YOU'RE OUT OF LUCK.
11:58:24AM THEY ARE LIKE, OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:58:26AM OUR BUSHES WILL STAY, BUT IF THEY GET PULLED OUT.
11:58:29AM MY CONCERN IS PEOPLE PUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INTO FIXING
11:58:32AM THIS AND THEN IT JUST GETS RIPPED OUT WHENEVER THEY FEEL
11:58:36AM LIKE IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THAT PART OF LAND.
11:58:39AM I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU.
11:58:41AM PROBABLY WHAT ST. PETE IS DOING, I DON'T THINK THAT IS A
11:58:43AM WISE DECISION FOR US AS A CITY TO -- BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL
11:58:47AM HAVE A LOT OF ANGRY PEOPLE.
11:58:49AM BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT AS WE ARE LOOKING AT STORMWATER, WE
11:58:55AM HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW -- I MEAN, WE HAVE CROSSED THAT
11:59:01AM BRIDGE, SORT OF LIKE THE BILLBOARD BRIDGE WE WERE TALKING
11:59:05AM ABOUT EARLIER.
11:59:06AM IT'S A MATTER OF HOW WE WORK WITH FOLKS TO PUT THEM IN TO
11:59:16AM MAKE SURE THE LEGISLATION WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
11:59:18AM SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT NEW -- IF THERE IS ANYTHING
11:59:24AM NEW, TO BRING IT FORWARD.
11:59:26AM >>VIK BHIDE: THIS WILL BE A CONSIDERATION IN AN UPDATE TO
11:59:29AM THE STORMWATER TECHNICAL MANUAL.
11:59:31AM WE'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE LATER AS PART OF ITEM
11:59:35AM 6, IT DOES MAINLY PART OF ITEM 7 AS WELL.
11:59:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
11:59:39AM I THINK THE COMMUNITY WILL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT
11:59:41AM CONVERSATION.
11:59:42AM I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR WORK ON THIS.
11:59:44AM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
11:59:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:59:45AM I'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:59:46AM THE PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS ARE STEPHANIE POYNOR, CARROLL
11:59:50AM ANN BENNETT, STEPHEN MICHELINI.
11:59:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS.
12:00:02PM MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE A PLAN OF ACTION --
12:00:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 4 IS GOING TO BE DONE.
12:00:09PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
12:00:11PM THERE WAS A BIG DEBATE LAST WEEK ON ONE OF THE Facebook
12:00:16PM GROUPS ABOUT TURF.
12:00:17PM OH, WE LOVE TURF AND HATE TURF AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
12:00:22PM WHAT I FOUND INTERESTING IS EVERYBODY WANTED TO LOOK IT UP
12:00:24PM AND COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT TURF.
12:00:27PM ALL THE FIRST TWO, THREE, FIVE PAGES OF GOOGLE SEARCHES ARE
12:00:31PM ONLY GOING TO BRING UP COMPANIES THAT WANT TO SELL YOU TURF.
12:00:35PM KEEP THAT IN MIND.
12:00:36PM I DID FIND A VERY INTERESTING MEMORANDUM FROM THE STATE OF
12:00:40PM NEW JERSEY THAT SAYS IN THERE ON THE SECOND PAGE AND I'LL
12:00:43PM FORWARD THE WHOLE DOCUMENT TO YOU.
12:00:45PM IT SAYS YOU SHOULD NOT USE TURF WITHIN THE HUNDRED-YEAR
12:00:50PM FLOODPLAIN BECAUSE IT IS BAD.
12:00:52PM LIKE, THE STATE OF NEW YORK DOES NOT ALLOW TURF WITHIN THE
12:00:56PM HUNDRED-YEAR FLOODPLAIN.
12:00:58PM I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THERE'S PROBABLY A GOOD BASIS FOR THAT
12:01:02PM IN THIS TECHNICAL ADDENDUM.
12:01:03PM I DON'T THINK -- I HATE GRASS.
12:01:07PM YOU ALL KNOW I HATE GRASS BECAUSE GRASS IS STUPID.
12:01:10PM WE PUT CHEMICALS ON IT.
12:01:12PM LESSER OF TWO EVILS.
12:01:14PM WEEDS ARE GREAT FOR MY YARD AND MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS' YARDS.
12:01:18PM I'M KIND OF FLABBERGASTED THAT NOBODY IS HERE BECAUSE I
12:01:21PM POSTED THIS WOULD BE THIS WEEK AND NOBODY BOTHERED TO SHOW
12:01:24PM UP AND PROBABLY DIDN'T BOTHER TO WRITE A LETTER.
12:01:26PM THEY JUST WOULDN'T WHINE ABOUT IT ON Facebook.
12:01:30PM I WANTED TO SEND YOU THE DOCUMENT AND SAY IT WAS VERY
12:01:33PM INTERESTING THAT IT SAYS NOT BE USED IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND I
12:01:37PM THINK WE SHOULD NOT PUT IT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:01:39PM IT'S NOT PERMEABLE ENOUGH.
12:01:41PM IT REQUIRES ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FOR IT TO STAY WORKING THE
12:01:45PM WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO.
12:01:46PM THANK YOU.
12:01:53PM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT, I PASS.
12:01:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. STEVE MICHELINI.
12:01:58PM >> THE TBBA.
12:02:01PM STEVE MICHELINI.
12:02:02PM WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY IN DEVELOPING THE STANDARD.
12:02:04PM THERE WEREN'T STANDARDS.
12:02:06PM AND THERE ARE NEW PRODUCTS.
12:02:08PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WAS TALKING ABOUT
12:02:12PM WHEN THEY SAID IT IS NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE OF THIS AND THAT.
12:02:15PM THE PRODUCTS BEING PROPOSED IN THE CITY HAVE CROSS SECTIONS
12:02:20PM THAT SHOW PERMEABILITY EQUAL TO OR BETTER THAN GRASS.
12:02:24PM IT ALSO SHOWS THERE'S NO HEAT GAIN BECAUSE THE TYPE OF
12:02:27PM PRODUCT BEING PRODUCED NOW IS A NEW AND IMPROVED PRODUCT
12:02:31PM THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THE FACT THAT THE OLDER PRODUCTS DID HAVE
12:02:35PM HEAT GAIN.
12:02:37PM THEY ALSO WERE INSTALLED WITH VISQUEEN UNDERNEATH THEM WHICH
12:02:40PM IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND THAT WOULD STOP THE
12:02:43PM PERCOLATION.
12:02:44PM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CASES THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE TURF
12:02:47PM HAS BEEN INSTALLED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:02:49PM IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE.
12:02:52PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT IT DOES PERCOLATE AND
12:02:56PM IT IS ANCHORED DOWN SO IT DOESN'T DRIFT OFF AND CREATE SOME
12:03:01PM KIND OF A DRAINAGE HAZARD SOMEWHERE ELSE.
12:03:03PM THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
12:03:05PM WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH MOBILITY AS WELL AS WITH THE
12:03:09PM CITY OF TAMPA AND THE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION DIVISION TO
12:03:12PM COME UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL AND BETTER IDEAS ON HOW TO DEAL
12:03:17PM WITH IT.
12:03:18PM THE FIRST ROUND TOOK US A LITTLE OVER A YEAR TO REACH AN
12:03:22PM AGREEMENT ON AND TRY TO WORK WITH IT.
12:03:25PM SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT STILL REMAIN ARE HOW YOU COUNT IT
12:03:30PM AND HOW CLOSE IT CAN COME TO A TREE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:03:35PM ASPHALT IN SOME CASES IS ALLOWED TO COME CLOSER TO A TREE
12:03:39PM THAN ARTIFICIAL TURF OR HAS BEEN ANYWAY.
12:03:42PM WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
12:03:47PM IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
12:03:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:03:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:03:49PM THAT CONCLUDES ITEM NUMBER 3, UNLESS THERE ARE MOTIONS.
12:03:51PM IF NOT, ITEM 4.
12:03:53PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MOTION, KICK IT OFF.
12:03:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. CAMPBELL IS HERE.
12:04:00PM BASICALLY I'LL LET MR. CAMPBELL SPEAK TO IT.
12:04:04PM BUT THEY HAVE FOUND -- OR THEY FOUND A CONSULTING FIRM SO
12:04:08PM THEY WILL BE STARTING, I BELIEVE YOU ARE BRINGING THE
12:04:12PM CONTRACT TO US IT SAID THE 9th.
12:04:14PM UNFORTUNATELY THE 9th IS A SUNDAY.
12:04:18PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MEANT THE 6th --
12:04:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M COMING IN.
12:04:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M NOT.
12:04:22PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:04:22PM I THINK YOU MEANT THE 6th.
12:04:24PM IF NOT, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO UPDATE US ON.
12:04:27PM IS IT THE 6th?
12:04:29PM >> BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
12:04:32PM I DID WANT TO ALSO ADDRESS THAT.
12:04:34PM WE ARE ANTICIPATING IT COMING ON THE 20th.
12:04:36PM INITIALLY I THINK WE WERE ANTICIPATING THE 6th.
12:04:38PM BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE EXPECTING IT ON THE 20th.
12:04:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
12:04:42PM I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE TIME BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET
12:04:45PM TO 1:00.
12:04:45PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AND WE'LL TALK
12:04:48PM ABOUT IT ON THE 20th.
12:04:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:04:51PM PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
12:04:53PM IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPEAK, JUST SAY PASS.
12:04:57PM CARROLL ANN BENNETT IS FIRST, STEPHANIE POYNOR IS SECOND.
12:05:02PM YES, MA'AM.
12:05:02PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:05:03PM >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
12:05:05PM I WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE FEES FOR SIDEWALKS.
12:05:14PM SLOW ROLL DOESN'T EVEN BEGIN TO ADDRESS IT.
12:05:17PM I JUST GOOGLED MY CALENDAR, OCTOBER 2018, AUGUST 2019,
12:05:23PM DECEMBER 2020, FEBRUARY '21, APRIL '21.
12:05:28PM OCTOBER '21.
12:05:30PM SATURDAY, 22 -- I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW
12:05:35PM LONG AND HOW HARD I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE SIDEWALK ISSUE
12:05:38PM AND THE FEES.
12:05:39PM THIS IS NOT A SLOW ROLL.
12:05:40PM THIS IS A SNAIL WHO'S GOT BROKEN LEGS AND NO ONE WILL GIVE
12:05:47PM IT CRUTCHES.
12:05:48PM MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH IT IS THERE NEEDS TO BE A TEXT
12:05:52PM AMENDMENT NOW.
12:05:53PM WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS PERSON TO DO THE REPORT.
12:05:57PM WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THE LDC REWRITE.
12:06:01PM WE NEED TO DO IT NOW.
12:06:02PM THE CODE SAYS IT SHOULD BE THE AVERAGE COST OF THE CITY TO
12:06:07PM DO INFILL SIDEWALK.
12:06:11PM THEN IT HAS TO BE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO ACTUALLY SET AN
12:06:14PM AMOUNT.
12:06:14PM JUST STRIKE THOSE LAST WORDS ABOUT CITY COUNCIL, ON AN
12:06:18PM ANNUAL BASIS, MOBILITY SAYS WHAT THE AVERAGE COST IS AND ON
12:06:22PM AN ANNUAL BASIS, IT'S SUGGESTED.
12:06:24PM I WAS IN A MEETING RECENTLY WITH BUILDERS AND THEY ARE LIKE,
12:06:26PM WELL, THE AMOUNT THE CITY PAYS IS HIGHER THAN WHAT IT COSTS
12:06:32PM US.
12:06:32PM IF IT'S CHEAPER TO PUT IN A SIDEWALK, PUT IN A SIDEWALK.
12:06:35PM YOU GET TO CHOOSE TO DO THAT.
12:06:37PM THE REASON IT COSTS THE CITY MORE MONEY IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE
12:06:41PM TO HAVE A SURVEY.
12:06:42PM THEY HAVE TO GRADE THE LAND.
12:06:44PM THEY HAVE TO DO ALL THESE EXTRA THINGS.
12:06:46PM THEY ALSO END UP WITH THE MOST CHALLENGING PROJECTS.
12:06:48PM MR. BHIDE CAN SPEAK TO THAT BETTER THAN ME.
12:06:51PM MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE FUND IS ONLY $29
12:06:55PM A LINEAR FOOT, WHICH IS AT LEAST A HUNDRED DOLLARS TOO
12:06:58PM LITTLE IS THAT IT GIVES AN INCENTIVE TO BUILDERS TO
12:07:01PM MANUFACTURE BARRIERS.
12:07:03PM YOU SEE THIS RIGHT HERE.
12:07:06PM THEY PAID INTO THE FUND.
12:07:07PM DO YOU SEE A BARRIER?
12:07:08PM NO, YOU DON'T.
12:07:09PM THIS IS THE BARRIER THEY SAID THEY HAD.
12:07:13PM THIS POLE IS THE BARRIER.
12:07:15PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE.
12:07:18PM THE BARRIER WASN'T EVEN ON THE PROPERTY.
12:07:20PM IN ADDITION, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS BIG ENOUGH FOR A
12:07:24PM FOUR-FOOT SIDEWALK.
12:07:25PM IT JUST GOES OVER A DITCH.
12:07:27PM THE CITY COULD HAVE EASILY CONNECTED THAT IF THEY HAD DONE
12:07:29PM IT TO HERE, THE LITTLE BIT THE CITY HAD TO DO WAS LITTLE.
12:07:33PM BUT, OH, LOOK, THERE IS A BARRIER.
12:07:35PM HERE IS A HOUSE, LOOK AT THIS BARRIER.
12:07:37PM THIS TREE THAT IS 25 FEET FROM THE STREET AND IS ON THE
12:07:42PM PROPERTY LINE, THEY HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT FRONTAGE.
12:07:46PM $29 FOR A HUNDRED FEET BECAUSE OF THIS TREE WHICH IS NOT A
12:07:50PM BARRIER.
12:07:51PM HERE IS A HOUSE THEY ADMITTED DOESN'T HAVE A BARRIER, I HAVE
12:07:53PM A PICTURE OF THE OTHER SIDE TOO.
12:07:55PM DOESN'T HAVE A BARRIER BUT SOMEHOW THEY CRUDE UP AND LET
12:07:58PM THEM PAY THE FEE.
12:07:59PM YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S NO BARRIER AND SHOULD HAVE MADE THEM
12:08:02PM PUT IN A SIDEWALK INSTEAD OF PAYING THE FEE.
12:08:06PM IT COST THE CITY AT LEAST A HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE PER FOOT.
12:08:09PM CHANGE IT NOW.
12:08:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STEPHANIE POYNOR IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
12:08:13PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
12:08:14PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
12:08:15PM I'M CONFUSED.
12:08:16PM SO I'VE HAD THIS DOCUMENT SINCE AUGUST OF '23 MAYBE.
12:08:23PM AND IT TELLS ABOUT THE MOBILITY FEE FRAMEWORK AND HOW MUCH
12:08:28PM MONEY THE CITY IS LOSING EVERY TIME THEY BUILD A HOUSE, SO
12:08:33PM WE'RE CHARGING $1700.
12:08:36PM IT COSTS THE CITY -- ADJUSTED TO INFLATION, THAT MEANS WE
12:08:40PM SHOULD BE CHARGING 4400.
12:08:42PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY -- I SENT YOU GUYS THIS DOCUMENT A LONG
12:08:45PM TIME AGO.
12:08:46PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CHARGES $9100.
12:08:49PM WE'RE GETTING 1200.
12:08:51PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS GETTING 9100.
12:08:53PM GO FIGURE.
12:08:53PM THIS IS FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
12:08:55PM OUT IN THE WOODS, OUT IN THE WOODS OF THE COUNTY, $13,000.
12:09:02PM SO IF YOU LOOK -- I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE WE'RE SITTING HERE
12:09:07PM TALKING TODAY AND HONESTLY, I THOUGHT THIS AGENDA ITEM WE
12:09:10PM WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
12:09:12PM TODAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAYING SOMEBODY TO DO THIS.
12:09:16PM SOMEBODY, PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS.
12:09:18PM I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT MOBILITY.
12:09:21PM ARE THEY GOING TO TALK ABOUT SIDEWALKS?
12:09:23PM BECAUSE IF THEY ARE, I THANK GOD I HAD THIS IN MY BACKPACK,
12:09:27PM YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS
12:09:32PM LOST $1.97 MILLION BECAUSE OF THE SIDEWALK SCAM.
12:09:38PM WE ARE CHARGING $29 LINEAR FOOT.
12:09:42PM THE LAST I HEARD WAS ABOUT 122 DOLLARS AND SOME ODD CENTS.
12:09:47PM I DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS.
12:09:48PM DIDN'T THINK TO LOOK AT IT UNTIL CARROLL ANN STARTED TALKING
12:09:50PM ABOUT SIDEWALKS.
12:09:51PM I'M JUST CONFUSED.
12:09:53PM SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO HELP A SISTER OUT.
12:09:56PM BECAUSE I'VE HAD THIS DOCUMENT FOR AT LEAST A YEAR, MAYBE
12:10:00PM MORE.
12:10:00PM I DON'T KNOW.
12:10:01PM I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN I -- I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AND I GOT
12:10:04PM SIDETRACKED.
12:10:05PM BOTTOM LINE IS, WHERE IS THE REST OF THIS STUDY?
12:10:08PM WHY DO WE NEED TO KEEP PAYING PEOPLE LOTS OF MONEY IF WE'VE
12:10:12PM ALREADY GOT THIS INFORMATION?
12:10:13PM I'M SO CONFUSED.
12:10:15PM SOMEBODY HELP ME OUT.
12:10:16PM I'M ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
12:10:17PM HAD THIS A LONG TIME.
12:10:19PM I GAVE THIS TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND YOU GUYS A LONG TIME
12:10:22PM AGO.
12:10:23PM WHY TALKING ABOUT SPENDING MORE MONEY NOW?
12:10:24PM SLOW ROLL, THAT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WOULD GET ALL
12:10:27PM FOR TRANSPORTATION.
12:10:28PM THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LET THE
12:10:31PM DEVELOPERS OUT OF PAYING THIS, WHICH GOES BACK TO THE
12:10:34PM BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION'S FULL-FLEDGED SUPPORT TO NOT
12:10:38PM RAISING IMPACT FEES WHATSOEVER.
12:10:40PM YOU KNOW WHAT?
12:10:41PM THAT'S COME OUT OF STAFF'S MOUTH MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE
12:10:44PM BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
12:10:45PM THAT BOB BUCKHORN SAID WE WILL NOT RAISE THESE FEES.
12:10:49PM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE MAYOR SAID IT OR NOT, BUT I KNOW
12:10:52PM THAT BUCKHORN SAID IT.
12:10:53PM WHY DO WE NOT CHARGE THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND BUILDING THIS
12:10:56PM STUFF, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE MONEY, WHY ARE THE CITIZENS
12:11:00PM OF TAMPA, BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW -- WE KNOW WHAT THIS
12:11:04PM SHOULD COST, AT LEAST 4400, AND WHO IS PAYING THE DIFFERENCE
12:11:08PM BETWEEN THE 72 AND 44 HUNDRED?
12:11:12PM I AM.
12:11:13PM YOU ARE.
12:11:13PM YOU ARE.
12:11:14PM YOU ARE.
12:11:15PM YOU ARE.
12:11:16PM EVERYBODY ELSE IN HERE IS PAYING IT.
12:11:18PM WHY AREN'T THE DEVELOPERS PAYING IT?
12:11:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:11:22PM >> THANK YOU.
12:11:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 6.
12:11:23PM MR. BHIDE.
12:11:27PM THIS IS A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON REGARDING FINDING
12:11:38PM SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD IMMEDIATELY PREVENT RAINFALL
12:11:41PM IN THE FLOODED AREAS.
12:11:41PM I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
12:11:41PM THAT WAS A BIG TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
12:11:43PM I PUT MYSELF AT GREAT POLITICAL RISK IN 2016 TO VOTE FOR THE
12:11:47PM STORMWATER ASSESSMENT BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT
12:11:51PM THING.
12:11:51PM BECAUSE GROWING UP HERE, I SAW WHERE IT FLOODED REPEATEDLY
12:11:55PM THROUGHOUT MY LIFETIME.
12:11:57PM I WOULD ALWAYS TO MYSELF OR TO MY PARENTS, I WISH SOMEBODY
12:12:00PM WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
12:12:02PM WE TOOK THAT VOTE.
12:12:03PM IT WAS A VERY CONTENTIOUS HEARING.
12:12:07PM BROUGHT THIS UP MANY, MANY TIMES.
12:12:11PM I'M GIVING YOU THE TOOLS AND FUNDING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN
12:12:13PM COLLECTING THE MONEY FOR YEARS.
12:12:15PM WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH MILTON AND HELENE AND THE AMOUNT
12:12:19PM OF PROPERTIES THAT WERE DAMAGED, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING
12:12:23PM QUICK.
12:12:23PM IT'S NOT JUST SOUTH HOWARD DISCUSSING THE PATH OF WHERE IT
12:12:28PM NEEDS TO GO.
12:12:29PM WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT E-MAIL US AND SEND US PICTURES AND
12:12:32PM BROUGHT US PICTURES TODAY, BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE
12:12:35PM OF POOR MAINTENANCE, THINGS ARE FLOODING.
12:12:37PM I SEE THIS MYSELF.
12:12:40PM THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND OVERGROWTH, I THINK IT'S
12:12:43PM NEGLIGENCE ON OUR PART AND WE CAN PREVENT A LOT.
12:12:46PM PERHAPS WE CAN'T BEAT THAT 100-YEAR STORM BECAUSE MOTHER
12:12:49PM NATURE IS MOTHER NATURE BUT IN BASIC SIMPLE RAINFALLS, WE
12:12:52PM HAVE TO DO BETTER.
12:12:54PM JUST LIKE HOW I MAINTAIN MY CAR AND CHANGE THE OIL AND
12:12:57PM ROTATE THE TIRES, WE HAVE TO CLEAN THE DITCHES AND DO ALL
12:12:59PM THESE THINGS.
12:13:00PM AGAIN, THE MONEY IS THERE.
12:13:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAD SOME FOLKS IN PUBLIC COMMENT THIS
12:13:12PM MORNING, AT LEAST ONE HERE THIS AFTERNOON.
12:13:16PM SPOKEN TO SEVERAL EXTERNAL EXPERTS.
12:13:18PM THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS WE COULD PUT FORWARD.
12:13:21PM WE KNOW THAT WHEN THE BUCKHORN TAX WAS PASSED IN 2016 OR
12:13:26PM 2015, WHATEVER THAT WAS, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FUND A PLAN TO
12:13:31PM FIX EVERYTHING.
12:13:32PM OBVIOUSLY, IT DIDN'T WORK WHATEVER THE PLAN WAS BACK THEN.
12:13:35PM WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PLAN UPDATE IN MAY NOW INSTEAD OF
12:13:37PM TODAY, BUT WE WERE ALSO TOLD -- I WAS JUST A CITIZEN BACK
12:13:41PM THEN -- WE WERE TOLD, SOMEWHERE AROUND 2 AND A HALF MILLION
12:13:45PM DOLLARS WAS SPENT WITH THE NEW TAX ON MAINTENANCE AND
12:13:48PM UPKEEP, BUT WE'VE SEEN MANY, MANY EXAMPLES FROM MANY
12:13:52PM NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE CULVERTS ARE COMPLETELY INUNDATED, WHERE
12:13:55PM THERE ARE CRACKS, DITCHES HAVE NOT BEEN DUG OUT, OTHER
12:13:59PM THINGS.
12:13:59PM I TOOK AROUND AN EXPERT TO PALMA CEIA PINES RECENTLY.
12:14:02PM IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE'S MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE
12:14:06PM THERE.
12:14:06PM I ALSO TALKED TO MANY EXPERTS WHO CONFIRMED THE HOWARD
12:14:10PM AVENUE PROJECT IS A BAD IDEA, WASTE OF MONEY AND NEED TO
12:14:14PM STOP IT.
12:14:15PM AT THE VERY LEAST I THINK WE'LL STOP IT BY THE TIME THE
12:14:19PM DESIGN COMES BACK.
12:14:19PM WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WORK ON REAL SOLUTIONS THAT WILL HELP
12:14:23PM PEOPLE IN ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE FOLKS IN PARKLAND AND
12:14:27PM PALMA CEIA PINES DESERVE REAL SOLUTIONS THAT WILL PREVENT
12:14:30PM THE FLOODING, INCLUDING THE MAJOR STORMS.
12:14:33PM I'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. BHIDE, AS I'M SURE
12:14:36PM YOU ALL HAVE.
12:14:37PM THIS WILL BE THE START OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY, BUT THEN WE
12:14:40PM HAVE THE BIGGER MOTIONS NOW MOVED TO MAY 22 AND HAVING A
12:14:43PM BIGGER DISCUSSION THEN.
12:14:44PM THANK YOU.
12:14:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND MIRANDA.
12:14:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW YOU'LL REPORT ON SEVERAL THINGS.
12:14:51PM MY ONLY QUESTION TO YOU TODAY IS HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU NEED
12:14:54PM TO CONTRACT FOLKS TO CLEAN THE DITCHES AND DO ALL THAT WORK?
12:14:58PM I KNOW WE'LL NEED ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
12:15:00PM ALL I WANT TO KNOW TODAY WHEN YOU SPEAK IS FOR YOU TO TALK
12:15:03PM ABOUT WHAT MONEY WE NEED TO ALLOCATE BECAUSE WE WILL DO SO
12:15:08PM OR AT LEAST I WILL.
12:15:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:15:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:15:13PM THIS IS NOT JUST A ONE ITEM TO FIX ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WAY.
12:15:17PM IT TAKES MANY THINGS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, INCLUDING THE WAY
12:15:20PM WE BUILD HOUSES.
12:15:22PM WE BUILD HOUSES AND WHEN THEY FLOOD, YOU ARE JUST ABOUT
12:15:25PM READY TO TEAR THEM DOWN.
12:15:27PM ISLANDS LIKE PUERTO RICO, LIKE ANYONE IN THE CARIBBEAN, LIKE
12:15:34PM THE ISLAND OF CUBA, DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
12:15:36PM WHEN YOU GET INTO THE MAIN CITY, YOU HAVE CONCRETE, REBAR
12:15:40PM WIRE GOING DOWN, ALL THROUGH THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF THE FLOOR,
12:15:44PM WALLS, REBAR TIED INTO THE ROOF 8 INCHES WIDE, REBAR ALL
12:15:50PM ACROSS AND A SECTION THAT WILL NOT COME OFF.
12:15:53PM WE HAVE HOUSES WITH EAVES THAT ARE 18 TO 24 INCHES HIGH.
12:15:58PM WHEN THEY ARE NOT PROPERLY MADE -- I'M NOT BLAMING ANYONE --
12:16:02PM THE WIND PICKS UP THE ROOF.
12:16:04PM THE WALLS COLLAPSE.
12:16:05PM NOW YOU HAVE PROBLEMS FROM UP TOP AND ON THE BOTTOM.
12:16:08PM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A HOUSE FLOODS IN THIS AREA?
12:16:11PM YOU HAVE WHAT?
12:16:12PM DRYWALL.
12:16:13PM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN DRYWALL GETS WET?
12:16:16PM OVER A CERTAIN HEIGHT YOU HAVE TO TEAR THE WHOLE THING DOWN
12:16:19PM AND BRING NEW DRYWALL.
12:16:21PM THOSE ISLANDS I MENTIONED, YOU WAIT UNTIL IT DRIES AND PAINT
12:16:25PM OVER.
12:16:27PM BECAUSE IT'S ALL CONCRETE AND LOOK JUST AS GOOD AS THIS IF
12:16:30PM NOT NICER.
12:16:32PM NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE WAY WE'RE DOING
12:16:34PM FLOODING AREAS, THE PROBLEM IS EXACERBATED BY WHAT WE'RE
12:16:38PM BUILDING.
12:16:40PM WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO BUILD HOUSES THAT FLOOD.
12:16:42PM I DON'T CARE IF IT IS TWO OR THREE INCHES AND THE WATER
12:16:45PM COMES IN.
12:16:46PM IT'S GOT TO BE A HOUSE OR A UNIT THAT WILL MAINTAIN THE WIND
12:16:51PM FROM KNOCKING DOWN THE EAVES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO EAVES,
12:16:56PM FROM LETTING THE WATER RISE AND NO FLOODING BECAUSE YOU JUST
12:17:00PM PAINT IT.
12:17:01PM AND THEY ARE PREPARED.
12:17:03PM THEY LIFT UP ALL THE FURNITURE.
12:17:05PM THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
12:17:07PM WE DON'T DO THAT.
12:17:08PM WE'RE IN ESSENCE ENHANCING THE PROBLEMS WE ALREADY HAVE FROM
12:17:12PM A NO-NAME STORM, STORM, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
12:17:17PM SOONER OR LATER, IF THE STORM HAD GONE JUST TEN MILES
12:17:19PM INSTEAD OF GOING 20 MILES SOUTH, JUST 10 MILES THIS WAY, IT
12:17:23PM WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT WE GOT BECAUSE THEN THE
12:17:27PM WIND WOULD BE COMING BRINGING IN THE TIDE INSTEAD OF TAKING
12:17:30PM OUT THE TIDE HOW IT DID.
12:17:32PM THESE ARE THE THINGS WE HAVE TO BE THANKFUL FOR.
12:17:34PM SOMETHING WRONG, OLD SAYING IN SPANISH -- WHICH MEANS IN
12:17:39PM ENGLISH, IF SOMETHING IS WRONG, MAYBE SOME GOOD WILL COME
12:17:42PM OUT OF IT.
12:17:43PM MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD THING THAT WE LEARN A LESSON AND WILL
12:17:45PM NOT CONTINUE TO DO REPETITIOUS LIKE WE DO EVERYTHING ELSE.
12:17:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:17:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:17:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:17:51PM LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, MR. BHIDE.
12:17:55PM FOR ME, THIS IS -- AND I THINK FOR ALL OF US, THIS IS THE
12:17:58PM BIGGEST ISSUE IN TAMPA RIGHT NOW.
12:18:01PM IT IS IN TERMS OF FINDING OUT WHAT HAPPENED IN 2024 DURING
12:18:05PM THE SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, ESPECIALLY TOWARDS OCTOBER IN A
12:18:08PM LOT OF THE ZONE X AREAS, AND MAKING SURE THAT THINGS LIKE
12:18:12PM THIS NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN IN TAMPA, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN
12:18:15PM PREVENT IT.
12:18:16PM A LOT OF THINGS CAN'T BE PREVENTED.
12:18:18PM CERTAIN THINGS CAN.
12:18:20PM THERE ARE MANY, MANY LAYERS ON THIS.
12:18:22PM BUT WHEN IT COMES TO JUST THE BASICS OF STORMWATER, TO ME
12:18:26PM THAT'S LIKE JUST GOVERNMENT 101.
12:18:29PM WE DEAL WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.
12:18:30PM WE DEAL WITH PARKS.
12:18:32PM DEAL WITH ROADS.
12:18:33PM DEAL WITH STORMWATER.
12:18:34PM IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, THEN WE'RE NOT HAVING A FUNCTIONAL,
12:18:37PM MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
12:18:37PM IT'S LIKE HAVING A PIZZA HUT AND CAN'T MAKE A PIZZA.
12:18:41PM IT IS THE ABCs OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
12:18:45PM FOR ME, THERE ARE A LOT OF LAYERS ON THIS.
12:18:46PM THE REVIEW THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION BEGAN THAT'S GOING TO
12:18:52PM TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE COUNTY I THINK IS SO VERY
12:18:57PM IMPORTANT.
12:18:58PM I CALLED FOR THAT I GUESS PROBABLY TWO DAYS AFTER MILTON AND
12:19:02PM STARTED WORKING WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT HAD TO
12:19:05PM BE COUNTYWIDE.
12:19:06PM WATER DOESN'T STOP AT THE CITY'S EDGE, OBVIOUSLY.
12:19:08PM WE HAD PLANT CITY, A LOT OF ZONE X THAT WAS AFFECTED THERE.
12:19:13PM GOOD FRIENDS IN TOWN N' COUNTRY, OF COURSE, PARTS OF SOUTH
12:19:16PM TAMPA, A LOT OF NORTH TAMPA, ET CETERA.
12:19:18PM AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A HOLISTIC COUNTYWIDE
12:19:21PM VIEW.
12:19:22PM BUT THE BIG PART THAT IS ON FOR TODAY, I THINK, AND THAT WE
12:19:25PM NEED TO TALK ABOUT, A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE WHY IT
12:19:29PM HAPPENED, BUT PART OF IT TOO IS WHAT I WOULD CALL A MASTER
12:19:33PM PLAN, A UNIFIED, BIG STRUCTURAL VIEW ON WHAT WE HAVE TO DO
12:19:38PM TO PROTECT OURSELVES IN THE FUTURE AND HOW MUCH THAT WILL
12:19:43PM COST.
12:19:43PM I MET MANY, MANY TIMES WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH COUNTY
12:19:46PM COMMISSIONERS ON THIS STATING THAT PART OF THAT REVIEW HAS
12:19:49PM GOT TO INCLUDE FUTURE INVESTMENTS IN STORMWATER THAT WE CAN
12:19:53PM MAKE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A VERY FRANK TALK WITH CONSTITUENTS
12:19:56PM ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS, RIGHT?
12:19:59PM AND WE NEED TO HAVE, LIKE I SAID, REALISTIC SOLUTIONS ON
12:20:02PM THAT.
12:20:03PM PART OF ITS GOT TO BE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
12:20:06PM PART OF THE REVIEW WILL INCLUDE NUMEROUS COMMUNITY MEETINGS
12:20:09PM IN AFFECTED AREAS, INCLUDING, AND I SUGGESTED THIS YESTERDAY
12:20:13PM AND I THINK IT WILL BE PART OF THAT, COMMUNITY MEETINGS
12:20:16PM AFTER THE REPORT COMES OUT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO SPEAK
12:20:20PM TO THE INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR AFTER THE REPORT COMES OUT TO
12:20:23PM HAVE QUESTIONS, ACCOUNTABILITY, ET CETERA.
12:20:25PM I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
12:20:27PM AND THEN THE ISSUE OF, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER ON IN
12:20:31PM COUNCIL, BUT MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE STAY IN THEIR HOMES
12:20:34PM AFTER THIS, THAT WE KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES AFTER THIS.
12:20:37PM YOU TALK TO ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN FLOODED AND DOESN'T HAVE
12:20:41PM FLOOD INSURANCE, FEMA IS NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT
12:20:47PM OR WHAT YOU NEED.
12:20:48PM NOTHING AGAINST FEMA.
12:20:49PM THEY DO GREAT WORK, RIGHT, BUT WE NEED OTHER ASSISTANCE FOR
12:20:52PM THIS.
12:20:52PM I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE I BELIEVE TALKING ABOUT THAT
12:20:56PM POTENTIALLY ON FEBRUARY 6.
12:20:58PM SO, AGAIN, I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PRESENTATION AND
12:21:01PM SPEAKING ON THIS.
12:21:03PM SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS ARE IMPORTANT.
12:21:04PM NEXT WEEK WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE PUMPS AND PUMP
12:21:08PM GENERATORS AND MAKING SURE THAT IS FUNDED THROUGHOUT ALL OF
12:21:11PM THE CITY OF TAMPA ONE WAY OR ANOTHER FOR THIS STORM SEASON,
12:21:14PM SOMETHING THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO MY DIRECT
12:21:17PM CONSTITUENTS.
12:21:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BHIDE, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, IT'S
12:21:21PM IMPORTANT TO SET GOALS.
12:21:23PM WE HAD THAT 90 DAY CLEANUP TO GET FEMA REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE
12:21:27PM DEBRIS PICKUP, WE PICKED UP ALMOST EVERYTHING.
12:21:30PM WE NEED TO SET THE GOAL OF A REASONABLE TIMELINE BEFORE
12:21:34PM HURRICANE SEASON BEGINS TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO AGGRESSIVELY
12:21:39PM ATTACK THE MAINTENANCE AND CLEANING OF THESE DITCHES AND
12:21:41PM DRAINS AND PIPES AND MAKE SURE THAT ON OUR END, EVERYTHING
12:21:45PM IS PASSIBLE, THE WATER CAN FLOW, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE
12:21:48PM CAUGHT IN A SIMPLE AFTERNOON JULY RAIN AND IT'S GOING TO
12:21:52PM HAVE BACKING UP AND FLOODING.
12:21:54PM I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
12:21:58PM GASPARILLA IS OVER.
12:21:58PM THE WINTER SEASON IS OVER.
12:22:00PM IT'S STILL THE DRY SEASON AND THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO
12:22:03PM START NOW AND SAY, HEY, IN THE NEXT 90 DAYS, 60 DAYS,
12:22:06PM WHATEVER IT IS, AGGRESSIVELY ATTACK MAINTENANCE.
12:22:10PM WHEN WE WANT TO BUILD PARKS, WE BUILD THEM WITHIN THOSE
12:22:15PM TIMELINES, WHETHER JULIAN LANE OR ANOTHER PARK, WHEN THERE
12:22:18PM ARE PRIORITIES IN PLACE AND GOALS ARE PUT DOWN, THESE THINGS
12:22:22PM CAN GET ACHIEVED.
12:22:23PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE IN A CRISIS WITH.
12:22:26PM PEOPLE ARE SCARED BEFORE THE RAINY SEASON BEGINS.
12:22:29PM I'M TERRIFIED OF WHAT COULD COME.
12:22:32PM I HOPE FOR A QUIET SEASON BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE NEED TO
12:22:35PM START MOVING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
12:22:37PM TAKE IT AWAY.
12:22:38PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:22:39PM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
12:22:41PM AFTERNOON TO YOU ALL.
12:22:43PM SO WHILE THE MOTION IS ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM IMPROVEMENTS AND
12:22:48PM WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT, I THINK THERE WERE TWO POINTS MADE
12:22:51PM THAT I'D QUICKLY LIKE TO ADDRESS.
12:22:53PM ONE WAS THE 2016 SUPPORT FOR THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT,
12:23:00PM WHICH THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR IT.
12:23:04PM THAT WAS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
12:23:05PM AND A MAJORITY OF THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN DONE.
12:23:10PM THEY WERE EFFECTIVE WHERE THEY WERE DONE.
12:23:13PM WE'RE WRAPPING UP THAT PROGRAM WITH THE LAST FEW PROJECTS,
12:23:18PM WHICH IS WHY TO COUNCILMAN VIERA'S POINT AND THAT'S ALSO
12:23:22PM PART OF ITEM 7 THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD
12:23:26PM AND THANK YOU FOR ACCOMMODATING THE SCHEDULE AROUND THAT,
12:23:31PM ABOUT STORMWATER MASTER PLANNING.
12:23:34PM SEPTEMBER 19 OF LAST YEAR, THIS BODY, COUNCIL, DID VOTE FOR
12:23:39PM A $5 MILLION WATERSHED MASTER PLAN.
12:23:43PM THAT IS THE TECHNICAL TERM.
12:23:45PM I AM JOINED BY OUR STORMWATER MANAGER AS WELL AS OUR
12:23:48PM STORMWATER OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE MANAGER, BRIAN ROGER,
12:23:52PM AND OUR CHIEF ENGINEER, IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
12:23:56PM BUT BROADLY THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, THE WORK ON THAT
12:24:02PM WILL BEGIN EARLY FEBRUARY.
12:24:04PM WHAT THAT DOES IS EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA MENTIONED.
12:24:09PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE BASIN WITHIN THE CITY OF
12:24:13PM TAMPA, MODEL IT TO TODAY'S DATA AND STANDARDS TO UNDERSTAND
12:24:17PM AND DEVELOP A LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED AND
12:24:22PM ATTRIBUTE COSTS OR ESTIMATES TO THAT.
12:24:25PM THAT ALSO HELPS UPDATE OUR STORMWATER TECHNICAL MANUAL AND
12:24:30PM STANDARDS IN LIGHT OF THIS NEW DATA.
12:24:32PM AND IT ALSO LOOKS AT OTHER THINGS LIKE SEA LEVEL RISE AND
12:24:38PM LIKE BEST PRACTICES, BOTH ON THE CAPITAL AND MAINTENANCE
12:24:42PM SIDE.
12:24:42PM SO INCLUDING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
12:24:46PM THAT PROCESS IS FUNDED.
12:24:47PM IT IS UNDERWAY.
12:24:48PM WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN CONSULTANTS WORKING ON IT BECAUSE WE
12:24:52PM WANTED TO GET IT DONE FAST.
12:24:53PM SO DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS ARE WORKING ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF
12:24:56PM THE MODELING ACROSS THE BASINS.
12:24:58PM ONE CONSULTANT, WHICH IS APPLIED SCIENCES, IS RESPONSIBLE
12:25:02PM FOR COORDINATING THIS WORK AND HARMONIZING IT.
12:25:05PM SO THAT IN ESSENCE ALL THE MODELS SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE
12:25:09PM AND WE HAVE A UNIFIED PLAN.
12:25:12PM THIS IS A BEST PRACTICE, AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN
12:25:16PM INFORMED BY FEMA'S CONSULTANT, ISO THAT DOES THE AUDITS AND
12:25:21PM ALL FOR THEM.
12:25:22PM OUR AUDIT IS EVERY THREE YEARS, THAT IF WE DO THIS OUR
12:25:26PM COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM WILL IMPROVE FROM CURRENTLY FIVE,
12:25:31PM WHICH I THINK HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, ST. PETE ARE AT FIVE AS
12:25:34PM WELL, TO A THREE.
12:25:36PM IN OUR REGION, PINELLAS IS AT A TWO, WHICH IS KIND OF THE
12:25:40PM GOLD STANDARD PARTLY BECAUSE OF THEIR POLICIES, PARTLY
12:25:44PM BECAUSE OF A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.
12:25:45PM THIS ALSO GIVES DIRECTLY BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WITH BETTER
12:25:50PM FLOOD INSURANCE RATES.
12:25:51PM SO THERE IS A DISCOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
12:25:54PM THAT IS HAPPENING.
12:25:56PM THAT IS IN PROCESS AND THAT IS THE STATE OF THE PRACTICE AS
12:26:00PM WE KNOW IT AND IT WILL INCORPORATE THE LATEST DATA AND TELL
12:26:03PM US WHAT TO DO.
12:26:04PM WHAT RESOURCES WE NEED.
12:26:06PM I SUSPECT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY HIGH NUMBER, AS YOU
12:26:11PM HEARD WHEN THE COUNTY PRESENTED AS WELL, JUST ON THE ONE
12:26:13PM PROJECT, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.
12:26:17PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CITYWIDE NEEDS.
12:26:18PM I'LL GET THOSE LONG-TERM THINGS OUT OF THE WAY FIRST AND
12:26:25PM I'LL DELVE DIRECTLY INTO THE MAINTENANCE QUESTION.
12:26:29PM THE VERY VALID CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE
12:26:34PM DEGREE OF MAINTENANCE, THE LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE THAT WE'RE
12:26:38PM DOING.
12:26:39PM WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENT AS WELL.
12:26:41PM IT'S CALLED SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
12:26:43PM AND THAT IS WHAT FUNDS OUR OPERATION -- STORMWATER
12:26:48PM OPERATIONS TEAM.
12:26:49PM THIS DID NOT EXIST BEFORE 2005 WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE CAPITAL
12:26:55PM OR OPERATING DOLLARS AT THE TIME.
12:26:58PM WE'RE ALSO IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION BACK THEN.
12:27:00PM SO TODAY, THAT MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENT FUNDS 62 POSITIONS IN
12:27:06PM STORMWATER OPERATIONS, WHICH IS PART OF THE STORMWATER
12:27:10PM OPERATIONS TEAM.
12:27:11PM THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT OPERATE EQUIPMENT THAT ARE NOT
12:27:16PM FUNDED BY THE ASSESSMENT.
12:27:17PM THOSE ARE FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND.
12:27:19PM AND THAT'S WHERE WHEN YOU MENTION WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT WE
12:27:23PM NEED, WE'LL GET TO IT, IT IS A MORE NUANCED ANSWER, THOUGH.
12:27:27PM SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
12:27:29PM WE'RE REALLY MORE FOCUSED ON THOSE SHORT-TERM IMPROVEMENTS,
12:27:32PM AND I'LL GET TO THAT.
12:27:33PM BUT THESE FOLKS OPERATE THE VAC TRUCKS, PAYLOADERS, STREET
12:27:39PM SWEEPERS, DUMP TRUCKS, THE GRADE-ALLS WHICH ARE USED FOR
12:27:40PM DITCH GRADING, AND THE SPIDER.
12:27:45PM THEY WORK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
12:27:46PM WE ADDED A SECOND SHIFT SO THEY CAN FOCUS SINCE THE STORMS
12:27:49PM SO THAT THEY CAN FOCUS ON STORMWATER MAINTENANCE,
12:27:53PM PARTICULARLY DURING THE DRY PERIODS, LIKE WE FOCUS ON PAVING
12:27:57PM DURING THE DRY PERIODS.
12:27:58PM IS IT ENOUGH GIVEN THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE?
12:28:03PM IT IS QUITE GOOD, BUT IT IS NOT ENOUGH.
12:28:06PM WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE RESOURCES, BUT WHAT WE ALSO NEED
12:28:12PM MORE URGENTLY ARE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
12:28:15PM AND THEY BOTH GO TOGETHER.
12:28:17PM WE NEED BOTH OF THOSE.
12:28:20PM WE HAVE CONTRACTS AS WELL.
12:28:21PM AND IF I MAY SHARE THIS WITH COUNCIL, THIS IS A LIST OF OUR
12:28:31PM CONTRACTS.
12:28:32PM THEY TOTAL ABOUT $5 MILLION.
12:28:37PM THEY ARE TYPICALLY PRICED A LITTLE HIGHER THAN OUR ANNUAL
12:28:40PM NEED.
12:28:40PM OUR ANNUAL NEED IS ABOUT 3 MILLION.
12:28:42PM I THINK LAST YEAR IT WAS ABOUT $3.1 MILLION.
12:28:45PM AND THESE CONTRACTS ARE FOR VARIOUS ACTIVITIES RELATED TO
12:28:51PM STORMWATER MAINTENANCE.
12:28:52PM THESE ARE THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE STORMWATER -- THAT OUR
12:28:56PM STORMWATER OPERATIONS TEAM, WHICH IS PAID FOR BY THE
12:28:59PM STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT, NOT THE IMPROVEMENT
12:29:01PM ASSESSMENT.
12:29:02PM THIS IS IN THE QUARTERLY REPORT IN OUR STORMWATER QUARTERLY
12:29:06PM REPORT.
12:29:07PM SO THIS TEAM WORKS -- OR THESE CONTRACTORS OVERSEEN BY OUR
12:29:14PM STORMWATER OPERATIONS TEAM WORK ACROSS THE CITY WITH PONDS,
12:29:20PM MOWING, HYDROSEEDING, ALL KINDS OF WORK.
12:29:23PM SO THIS HAPPENS YEARLONG.
12:29:26PM AND THIS HAPPENS WITH THESE CONTRACTS.
12:29:29PM AND WE RENEW THEM AS NEEDED.
12:29:31PM THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKLAND EARLIER, AND WE'LL
12:29:35PM TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL AND WHAT WORK WAS DONE, BUT WHAT IS
12:29:39PM REALLY NEEDED THERE AS WELL.
12:29:40PM I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT ALSO.
12:29:43PM IN TERMS OF PARKLAND MAINTENANCE, OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE
12:29:50PM REMOVED OVER SIX TONS OF DEBRIS.
12:29:52PM AND BY DEBRIS, WHAT IT MEANS IS REMOVING DIRT, SOME
12:29:55PM VEGETATIVE MATERIALS AND ALL, EITHER FROM DITCHES OR FROM
12:29:59PM PIPES WITH TRUCKS.
12:30:05PM THIS DEBRIS IS WEIGHED AND GOES BACK TO A LAND FILL.
12:30:09PM TRUCKED BY US TO A LAND FILL.
12:30:11PM THAT'S WHY WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT WEIGHS.
12:30:14PM WE INSPECTED AND CLEANED OVER 90 STRUCTURES.
12:30:17PM WE'VE INSPECTED AND CLEANED OVER 7,000 MILES OF PIPE, JUST
12:30:20PM IN THIS ATLAS AREA AND REPAVED THREE CAVE-INS AND REPAIRED
12:30:27PM ONE STRUCTURE.
12:30:28PM WAS IT ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS GREAT.
12:30:35PM WE FEEL WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES WE
12:30:38PM HAVE.
12:30:38PM WE NEED MORE, PARKLAND, ESPECIALLY, THAT BASIN AND WE'VE HAD
12:30:42PM LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, REALLY NEEDS CAPITAL
12:30:48PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
12:30:49PM WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL.
12:30:51PM THESE ARE THE WORK ORDERS THAT ARE IN THE AREA.
12:31:04PM IT REALLY DOESN'T GIVE ANY MORE THAN EVIDENCE THAT THERE'S
12:31:08PM BEEN WORK HAPPENING IN THIS AREA.
12:31:10PM IT'S NOT THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN.
12:31:12PM I DON'T WANT TO SHORTCHANGE THE TEAM FOR THE EFFORT THAT
12:31:15PM THEY TAKE ON A DAILY BASIS AND THEY WORK WITH PASSION.
12:31:20PM YES, WE HAVE MORE NEEDS.
12:31:23PM THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
12:31:25PM AND THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE TRANSPORTATION OPERATION
12:31:29PM ITEMS THAT WORK ON THE STREETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:31:31PM NOW, LET ME TOUCH UPON A FEW OTHER ITEMS RELATIVE TO --
12:31:53PM RELATIVE SHORT-TERM MAINTENANCE.
12:31:55PM SO WE'LL PRESENT THIS ON FEBRUARY 6 SPECIFIC TO NORTH TAMPA
12:32:01PM BECAUSE THAT WAS COUNCILMAN VIERA'S MOTION.
12:32:04PM BUT WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING UPGRADES TO PUMP STATIONS ACROSS
12:32:11PM THE CITY.
12:32:12PM WE'VE PUT THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER WE WILL SUBMIT IT AS A
12:32:20PM MEMO NEXT WEEK, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A NORTH TAMPA MOTION.
12:32:23PM BUT FOR NOW, I'LL PUT IT UP HERE.
12:32:25PM THE TOTAL ASK IS ABOUT $10.5 MILLION.
12:32:28PM WHAT THE ASK ENTAILS ARE UPGRADES TO OUR PUMP STATIONS
12:32:34PM ADDING GENERATORS WHERE GENERATORS DON'T EXIST, ADDING
12:32:39PM MONITORING DEVICES BOTH FOR THE WATER AS WELL AS VISUALLY
12:32:43PM AROUND THE AREA.
12:32:44PM AND BETTER INSTRUMENTATION SYSTEMS AS WELL.
12:32:50PM IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT WE HAVE DONE, AS WE WORK TOWARDS --
12:32:54PM AND SOMEONE, A TIMELINE HAD MENTIONED AND I'M GLAD THE
12:32:57PM TIMELINE WAS MENTIONED, FROM THE TIME THIS $10.5 MILLION IS
12:33:02PM AVAILABLE TO MOBILITY, WE CAN GET THIS WORK DONE IN TWO
12:33:06PM YEARS.
12:33:06PM BECAUSE THAT'S HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE US TO CONTRACT, DESIGN,
12:33:10PM AND BUILD AND GET EVERYTHING IN PLACE.
12:33:12PM IN THE INTERIM, HOWEVER, WE'VE TAKEN SEVERAL MEASURES TO
12:33:17PM MAKE SURE THE PUMP STATIONS ARE SECURE AND THE PUMP STATIONS
12:33:22PM ARE WORKING APPROPRIATELY.
12:33:29PM THE FIRST THING WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE WORKED WITH LOGISTICS
12:33:35PM AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
12:33:37PM THEY HAVE GENERATOR CONTRACTORS AND SECURED GENERATORS
12:33:41PM BEFORE STORM SEASON.
12:33:43PM WE'RE ON THEIR CONTRACT.
12:33:44PM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AT PUMP STATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE
12:33:48PM GENERATORS IS PRE-STAGE GENERATORS OUT THERE.
12:33:52PM AND BEFORE A MAJOR STORM, WE WILL SWITCH THE GENERATOR
12:33:57PM POWER.
12:33:57PM THE FUELING PLAN NEEDED FOR THAT GENERATOR IS TO BE POWERED
12:34:02PM AND ALL OF THAT HAS ALSO BEEN DEVELOPED.
12:34:04PM WE HAVE AN S.O.P. FOR THAT.
12:34:06PM WE'VE ADDED FUEL CELLS, ONE WITH TRANSPORTATION OPERATION
12:34:09PM AND ONE WITH STORMWATER OPERATIONS AS WELL.
12:34:11PM THROUGH OUR FLEET TEAM WITHIN MOBILITY'S OPERATIONS.
12:34:15PM SO WE'VE GOT A FUELING PLAN.
12:34:17PM WE'VE GOT THE GENERATORS, AND THE IDEA IS WHERE WE DON'T
12:34:20PM HAVE GENERATORS, WE'LL GO OUT AND PUT THESE -- PRE-STAGE
12:34:24PM THESE GENERATORS AND A DAY BEFORE THE STORM, WE JUST MOVE TO
12:34:30PM GENERATOR POWER.
12:34:31PM THIS IS WHILE WE UPGRADE THE GENERATORS AND THE OTHER
12:34:34PM SYSTEMS.
12:34:36PM WHAT THIS ALSO INCLUDES, THE INTERIM PLAN, IS FOR PUMP
12:34:41PM STATIONS, ESPECIALLY LIKE CURIOSITY CREEK, WHERE THERE WAS A
12:34:48PM CHALLENGE WITH THE AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH WHERE IT DIDN'T
12:34:51PM KICK TO GENERATOR POWER, WE'RE GOING TO TURN ON THE
12:34:56PM GENERATORS THERE AND SWITCH TO GENERATOR POWER BEFORE THE
12:34:59PM STORM.
12:34:59PM KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHERE THERE AREN'T ANY GENERATORS.
12:35:04PM THIS WILL ENSURE THERE WILL BE POWER WHETHER THERE'S LINE
12:35:07PM POWER OR NOT TO THE PUMPS.
12:35:09PM AND THE PUMP STATIONS -- CHAIR, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
12:35:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
12:35:15PM I WAS THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING.
12:35:17PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE PUMP STATIONS THEMSELVES, THE PUMPS AT ALL
12:35:20PM OF OUR PUMP STATIONS ARE FUNCTIONING FINE.
12:35:23PM THEY FUNCTIONED THROUGH THE STORM WHEN THEY HAD POWER.
12:35:29PM IT WAS GETTING POWER WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE IT THAT WAS THE
12:35:32PM BIGGER CHALLENGE.
12:35:33PM AND THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING BY EITHER PRE-STAGING GENERATORS
12:35:36PM OR JUST SWITCHING TO GENERATOR POWER WHERE WE HAVE IT.
12:35:38PM ON THE INSTRUMENTATION PIECE, WE'VE ENGAGED AN ELECTRONICS
12:35:43PM FIRM, AN INSTRUMENTATION FIRM, ICON, SAME FIRM THAT OUR
12:35:47PM WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT ALSO USES FOR THEIR WASTEWATER PUMP
12:35:51PM STATIONS.
12:35:53PM THEN OUR CHIEF ENGINEER AND OUR PUMP STATION'S SUPERVISOR
12:35:58PM HAVE VISITED EVERY SINGLE PUMP STATION WITHIN THE CITY.
12:36:01PM WE HAVE 16 PUMP STATIONS, TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE
12:36:05PM INSTRUMENTATION IS WORKING.
12:36:07PM WE DID NOT HAVE, OTHER THAN THE ATS, ANY MAJOR
12:36:12PM INSTRUMENTATION CHALLENGES AND WE HAVE THAT IN SCADA.
12:36:16PM I MENTIONED THIS PREVIOUSLY.
12:36:17PM THAT DATA ABOUT PUMP STATIONS IS ON TAMPA.GOV/HURRICANES
12:36:22PM UNDER STORMWATER.
12:36:22PM AND IT SHOWS BEFORE THE STORM AND AFTER THE STORM, WHAT WAS
12:36:27PM THE FUNCTIONING OF THAT PUMP STATION.
12:36:30PM AND, OF COURSE, WHERE YOU LOST POWER AND THERE'S NO
12:36:33PM GENERATOR, IT DIDN'T -- THE PUMPS DIDN'T KICK IN.
12:36:38PM SO THE SOPs ARE IN PLACE.
12:36:40PM THE CONTRACTS ARE IN PLACE.
12:36:42PM WE'RE PREPARED WITH OUR PUMP STATIONS TO MAKE SURE.
12:36:46PM THE CONCERNS WE HAD LAST YEAR RELATIVE TO POWER WOULD NOT
12:36:51PM HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
12:36:52PM IN THE MEANTIME, WE WILL WORK WITH COUNCIL AND THE
12:36:55PM ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE FY '26 BUDGET OR SOONER TO MAKE
12:37:00PM SURE WE CAN MAKE THESE, ADD THESE GENERATORS WHERE THEY ARE
12:37:03PM NEEDED, ADD THE ADDITIONAL MONITORING AS WELL.
12:37:06PM AS PART OF THE FY '26 BUDGET, WE WILL ALSO BE REQUESTING TWO
12:37:12PM POSITIONS RIGHT NOW TO CREATE A PUMP STATIONS TEAM.
12:37:17PM TODAY, WE HAVE ONE PERSON AND A BACKUP TO SUPPORT THEM.
12:37:22PM AND ICON, WHICH IS OUR CONSULTANT, WHICH THE CONTRACT WILL
12:37:27PM RENEW AND WE WILL HAVE THEM ON BOARD ALWAYS.
12:37:29PM BUT GIVEN WHERE WE'RE AT AND GIVEN THE INTENSITY OF STORMS
12:37:35PM WE'VE SEEN THE LAST FEW YEARS, TWO HURRICANES IN 12 DAYS
12:37:39PM NOTWITHSTANDING, THIS IS CLEARLY A FOCUS THAT IS RESIDENT
12:37:43PM WITH EVERYONE.
12:37:46PM WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS AS WELL.
12:37:48PM ON TOP OF THE GENERATOR UPGRADES AND THE TWO POSITIONS,
12:37:54PM RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST $500,000 A YEAR MORE FOR
12:37:59PM OUR MAINTENANCE.
12:38:01PM THIS IS AS WE GO THROUGH AND BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED
12:38:05PM RELATIVE TO THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN.
12:38:08PM SO HAVING ALL OF THESE THINGS IN PLACE DO ADDRESS A LOT OF
12:38:13PM THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD WITH THE LAST TWO STORMS IN 2024.
12:38:19PM I CAN ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ITEMS SPECIFIC TO PARKLAND IF
12:38:27PM YOU'D LIKE BECAUSE I KNOW THE COUNCIL RECEIVED A LETTER
12:38:31PM RECENTLY AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME E-MAILS RELATIVE TO PONDS
12:38:34PM AND POND MAINTENANCE.
12:38:36PM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE COUNCIL'S TIME.
12:38:39PM IT'S UP TO COUNCIL.
12:38:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON, VIERA, HURTAK.
12:38:43PM CARLSON, HURTAK, VIERA.
12:39:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR THE DALE, VIK, AND WHOEVER PUT
12:39:03PM THAT TOGETHER.
12:39:04PM SINCE YOU HAVE SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS HERE, I WANT TO THANK,
12:39:09PM SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE BEEN OUT IN MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH
12:39:11PM ME, EVEN MULTIPLE PARTS OF INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
12:39:16PM I WANT TO THANK JEFF DeBOSIER IN PARTICULAR, SORRY TO CALL
12:39:22PM YOU OUT.
12:39:23PM HE HAS A PERSONALITY AND A DIRECTNESS THAT EVEN THOUGH
12:39:26PM PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE ANSWER, HE TELLS THEM HOW IT IS.
12:39:29PM AND EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN OUT HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.
12:39:31PM IT'S NOT EASY TO GO TALK TO CONSTITUENTS.
12:39:35PM BUT I THINK THE GREAT THING ABOUT HIS DEMEANOR IS THAT
12:39:39PM CONSTITUENTS KNOW THEY CAN TRUST HIM AND EVEN IF THEY DON'T
12:39:42PM LIKE THE ANSWER.
12:39:42PM THE OTHER AREA WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED THAT'S NOT HERE AT ALL
12:39:47PM TODAY IS WASTEWATER.
12:39:48PM MANY AREAS -- AND THAT IS A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, NOT WITH
12:39:51PM VIK, BUT WASTEWATER WAS ANOTHER BIG THING.
12:39:55PM THE PUMPS FAILED ON WASTEWATER.
12:39:57PM WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED SOME BUDGETS TO FIX THE PUMPS ON
12:40:01PM BAYSHORE, SO THAT WILL BE FIXING SOME OF THEM, BUT WE HAD
12:40:04PM AREAS THAT FIRST FLOODED WITH FRESHWATER AND THEN THEY
12:40:08PM FLOODED WITH WASTEWATER.
12:40:09PM WE HAVE TO ADDRESS BOTH OF THEM AND THERE ARE REASONS FOR
12:40:12PM BOTH.
12:40:13PM I WANT TO THANK ERIC WEISS ALSO AND HIS TEAL.
12:40:16PM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD WE MET WITH, THEY HAD A RIVER OF POO FOR
12:40:20PM TWO OR THREE DAYS.
12:40:21PM WE GOT THE PUMPS FIXED, ELECTRIC BACK ON FOR THE PUMPS BUT
12:40:24PM THEN HE BROUGHT WITHIN AN HOUR AFTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKING
12:40:26PM FOR IT, HE HAD SANITIZERS GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS.
12:40:30PM I WANT TO THANK FOLKS FOR THEIR RESPONSIVENESS, EVERYBODY
12:40:33PM TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER.
12:40:34PM AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE NEED TO REMEMBER THE WASTEWATER
12:40:36PM COMPONENT OF IT.
12:40:37PM MY STREET, A WASTEWATER PIPE CAVED IN AND WE WERE REALLY,
12:40:40PM REALLY LUCKY IT DIDN'T RAIN BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE HAD A
12:40:44PM RIVER OF POO IN OUR STREET AND IT CAVED IN BECAUSE THERE WAS
12:40:47PM A 150-YEAR-OLD TREE THAT FELL OVER AND BUSTED IT.
12:40:50PM FIVE DIFFERENT TEAMS OF PEOPLE HAD TO COME OUT -- I CAN'T
12:40:54PM REMEMBER THE NAME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD -- GUY ON STAFF
12:40:57PM THAT HANDLED IT, LIKE A TWO OR THREE-WEEK EFFORT TO GET
12:41:00PM MULTIPLE CREWS OUT TO FIX IT BECAUSE POWER LINES, CABLE
12:41:03PM LINES.
12:41:03PM IT WAS VERY, VERY COMPLICATED.
12:41:05PM AND THAT'S JUST ONE INSTANCE THAT I SAW.
12:41:07PM STORMWATER, WASTEWATER.
12:41:09PM THE OTHER THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IS PERMITTING.
12:41:13PM THERE ARE AREAS WHERE HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT IN RETENTION
12:41:19PM PONDS.
12:41:20PM JEFF AND HIS TEAM BROUGHT THE MAPS.
12:41:25PM ENCOURAGE ANYBODY BUYING A HOUSE, LOOK AT THE ELEVATION MAP
12:41:28PM BEFORE YOU BUY A HOUSE.
12:41:30PM YOU MIGHT BE IN A FLOOD ZONE, WHATEVER.
12:41:32PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ELEVATION AROUND YOU, IF THE ELEVATIONS
12:41:35PM AROUND YOU ARE HIGHER THAN YOURS ARE, THE WATER WILL FLOW
12:41:38PM DOWN.
12:41:39PM MIGHT BE FOUR INCHES OF RAIN, BUT IF IT'S IN A MILE AREA,
12:41:42PM THEY WILL ALL FLOOD DOWN IN YOUR AREA.
12:41:44PM THERE IS AN AREA IN SOUTH TAMPA WHERE THERE ALLEGEDLY WAS A
12:41:49PM LAKE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
12:41:50PM SOMEBODY FILLED IT IN.
12:41:52PM OLD BRICK STREETS AND EVERYTHING, BUT THE WATER FLOODED DOWN
12:41:56PM THERE AND THERE ARE PUMPS AND THOSE HAD OTHER ISSUES, NOT
12:41:59PM JUST ELECTRIC DURING THAT STORM.
12:42:01PM THERE IS ANOTHER AREA WHERE SOMEBODY HAD LIKE A FOUR, FIVE
12:42:04PM MILLION DOLLARS HOUSE THAT LITERALLY WAS BUILT IN THE LAST
12:42:08PM TEN YEARS IN WHAT WAS A RETENTION POND JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.
12:42:12PM I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WAS PERMITTED.
12:42:13PM I TOOK THE STAFF OUT, DON'T WANT TO MENTION THE ADDRESS, ALL
12:42:17PM OF US LOOKED AT IT, VIK, YOU'VE TOLD US THAT THE ROADS
12:42:21PM TYPICALLY WILL MAINTAIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER AS A
12:42:24PM HOLDING POINT.
12:42:24PM THIS HOUSE IS FIVE, SIX FEET BELOW THE ROAD.
12:42:27PM HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT GOT PERMITTED?
12:42:29PM WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO IN THAT CASE.
12:42:34PM CAN'T BUILD IT UP.
12:42:35PM CAN'T POSSIBLY PUT ENOUGH FILTER.
12:42:38PM THE ONLY SOLUTION IN SOME CASES IS TO BUY HOUSES.
12:42:43PM I TALKED TO SOMEBODY IN STORMWATER WITH ANOTHER CITY
12:42:45PM RECENTLY WHO SAID WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT MAYBE FUNDING
12:42:48PM PEOPLE TO LIFT HOUSES.
12:42:50PM HE SAID $400,000 A HOUSE.
12:42:51PM IN PARKLAND ESTATES, 20 HOUSES, $8 MILLION, PAY TO LIFT
12:42:59PM THEIR HOUSES INSTEAD OF SPENDING $130 MILLION ON A PROJECT
12:43:02PM THAT WON'T WORK.
12:43:03PM WE ALSO NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE SURGE THAT'S COME IN.
12:43:10PM IN MICHELLE'S CASE, YOU'LL SEE THE MAPS, THE WAVE CAME OVER
12:43:15PM THREE, FOUR HUNDRED METERS OF VEGETATION THAT WE THOUGHT
12:43:20PM WOULD PROTECT HOUSES AND DIDN'T.
12:43:22PM WE FOUND GOING OUT IN THE FIELD THAT THE MAPS NEED TO BE
12:43:25PM UPDATED.
12:43:25PM SOMETIMES CITY EQUIPMENT THAT PREDATED CURRENT MAPS.
12:43:28PM WE NEED TO UPDATE THEM WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE MISSING.
12:43:31PM SOMETIMES NEIGHBORHOODS SHOW THAT BEHIND.
12:43:33PM ALSO PEOPLE HAVE MODIFIED.
12:43:34PM THEY FILLED IN DITCHES AND OTHER THINGS.
12:43:36PM THE LAST THING IS, WE'VE GOT THE BUDGET FOR ALL OF THIS.
12:43:39PM WE DON'T HAVE TO RAISE TAXES.
12:43:40PM WE HAVE THE BUDGET.
12:43:41PM WE CANCEL THE BOONDOGGLE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
12:43:44PM IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
12:43:47PM EVEN PEOPLE IN PARKLAND ESTATES GETTING SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS
12:43:49PM NOW THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THE THINGS THAT WE PROPOSED A FEW
12:43:52PM MONTHS AGO, THEY WANTED THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT INSTEAD OF
12:43:55PM SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS NOW THEY ARE ADVOCATING FOR THE SAME
12:43:57PM THINGS THAT THEY BOOED A FEW MONTHS AGO.
12:44:00PM NOW WE'VE GOT TO FIX THESE ISSUES AND $130 MILLION ON THAT
12:44:03PM IS NOT THE SOLUTION.
12:44:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK, VIERA.
12:44:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL GO BACK TO THE SINGLE DRUM I'M BEATING.
12:44:14PM IT REALLY GOES FOR -- YOU SAW THE PHOTOS THIS MORNING.
12:44:17PM YOU'VE SEEN, SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST PARTS OF THIS, QUITE
12:44:22PM FRANKLY, IS JUST THE VISUAL OF IT, TOO.
12:44:24PM WHEN PEOPLE SEE THESE DITCHES THAT ARE FILLED IN WITH DIRT,
12:44:30PM THAT THEY SEE THE PIPE THAT IS HALF FILLED, THAT MAY NOT BE
12:44:36PM THE FIRST AND FINAL THING YOU WOULD DO TO SOLVE IT, BUT IT
12:44:40PM REALLY DOES HELP AND IT REALLY MAKES PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT
12:44:43PM WE'RE DOING SOMETHING.
12:44:44PM IT DOES PROVIDE ASSISTANCE.
12:44:47PM YOU SAID HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
12:44:49PM WOULD THAT BE WHAT IT TAKES TO DIG THESE DITCHES OUT, TO
12:44:53PM CLEAR THESE PIPES BEFORE THE RAINY SEASON?
12:44:58PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO, YES.
12:45:00PM BUT I WILL ADD THIS, THAT AFTER THE FIRST MAJOR RAINS, WE
12:45:05PM HAVE AN INUNDATION OF AN INSUFFICIENT SYSTEM THAT CONTINUES
12:45:09PM TO GREAT PROBLEMS.
12:45:10PM IT'S NOT JUST BEFORE THE RAINY SEASON AND DOING IT ONCE, YOU
12:45:14PM HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THE HOT SPOTS
12:45:18PM AND WE HAVE FOLKS GOING OUT THERE.
12:45:20PM EARLIER TODAY IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE WAS A PERSON FROM THE
12:45:25PM CONCORDIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, AND VERY VALID POINT, BECAUSE
12:45:29PM WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS OUT THERE.
12:45:31PM WE LOOKED AT THE SYSTEM.
12:45:33PM WE SAID WE WOULD TV THE SYSTEM.
12:45:36PM FINALLY, WHEN WE GOT THE TV, RIGHT NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS
12:45:41PM BECAUSE AFTER LISTENING TO THAT PUBLIC COMMENT, I SPOKE WITH
12:45:44PM OUR STORMWATER CHIEF, AND HE'S GOING TO REACH OUT TO THAT
12:45:49PM COMMUNITY AGAIN TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS
12:45:52PM BETWEEN WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN OUT THERE AND WHAT I'M HEARING
12:45:58PM FROM OUR TEAM.
12:46:00PM SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN FOCUS ON THOSE, WE'RE GOING TO
12:46:04PM FOCUS ON EVERY AREA THAT WE KNOW, BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING TWO
12:46:09PM OTHER THINGS THAT I FAILED TO MENTION.
12:46:11PM ONE IS A POLICY ITEM.
12:46:13PM THIS SHOULD COME TO YOU BY MARCH.
12:46:15PM WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND THAN TO
12:46:20PM UPDATE A STORMWATER POLICY THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE -- I WANT TO
12:46:25PM SAY THE '90s OR '80s.
12:46:28PM I'M NOT SURE WHEN.
12:46:29PM BASICALLY, TO PUT IT SIMPLY, IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT
12:46:32PM IMPERVIOUS LOT RIGHT NOW AND IF YOU HAVE TO REBUILD IT, YOU
12:46:36PM GET CREDITS FOR THAT IMPERVIOUS AND YOU CAN BUILD
12:46:39PM IMPERVIOUS.
12:46:40PM WE'RE TAKING THAT LOOPHOLE AWAY AND SAYING THERE IS A SINGLE
12:46:44PM STANDARD FOR THAT USE, BASICALLY.
12:46:47PM SO THAT'S IN THE WORKS.
12:46:50PM THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE PARTIALLY THE
12:46:54PM $500,000 FOR IS A MORE ROBUST TV INSPECTION PROGRAM.
12:47:00PM THAT IS A DEFICIENCY RIGHT NOW THAT WE WILL ADDRESS.
12:47:07PM MEANING, BASICALLY GETTING CAMERAS AND GOING THROUGH THE
12:47:10PM PIPES TO MAKE SURE WHAT'S WHERE.
12:47:12PM WE HAVE JUST ONE TV TRUCK RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER
12:47:16PM CAMERA.
12:47:18PM I THINK IT WENT THROUGH COUNCIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK.
12:47:22PM THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT CONTRACTING THAT.
12:47:25PM IN THE MEANTIME, WE LEVERAGE WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE
12:47:28PM WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE MANY MORE TV TRUCKS
12:47:32PM THAN WE DO.
12:47:32PM THOSE THINGS COST ABOUT 533,000 EACH.
12:47:36PM SO THERE IS A COST ISSUE AS WELL WITH THAT.
12:47:41PM BUT WILL WE NEED MORE RESOURCES BEYOND THE 500,000?
12:47:44PM WE WILL.
12:47:45PM WE JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
12:47:48PM WHAT WE DO KNOW IS IN THE SHORT-TERM FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS,
12:47:53PM THIS WILL HELP US GET GOING.
12:47:55PM WE MAY NEED ADDITIONAL IN THE FY '27 CYCLE I'M PRETTY SURE.
12:47:59PM BY THE TIME WE HAVE OUR WATERSHED MASTER PLAN, A LOT OF THAT
12:48:03PM WILL BE MUCH CLEARER AS WELL.
12:48:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE QUESTION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOT
12:48:09PM SPOTS YOU KNOW ABOUT.
12:48:11PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
12:48:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY CONCERN ALSO IS HOT SPOTS YOU DON'T KNOW
12:48:15PM ABOUT.
12:48:17PM ONE OF THE THINGS, NOTICING ALL THESE PHOTOS WE'VE GOTTEN,
12:48:21PM IS THERE A WAY -- I KNOW WE DO IT FOR OTHER THINGS.
12:48:24PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS WITHIN THE CITY BUT I'M PRETTY SURE
12:48:27PM F.D.O.T. DOES THIS FOR CONCERNS ON ROADWAYS, IS THERE A WAY
12:48:30PM THAT WE CAN CREATE A SYSTEM OR USE A SYSTEM WE ALREADY HAVE
12:48:33PM WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO A GIS MAP, DROP A PIN, ADD A PHOTO
12:48:38PM THAT SAYS, HEY, THIS AREA IS FLOODING.
12:48:42PM THAT'S ONE THING I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT.
12:48:45PM I KNOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING TO US ON THE 6th.
12:48:49PM IF YOU COULD ADD THAT TO THE UPDATE, HEY, WHAT ARE OUR
12:48:53PM CAPABILITIES HERE, JUST A REALLY BASIC, BECAUSE I THINK THAT
12:48:56PM WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY IF FOLKS KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY CAN
12:48:59PM GO TO SHOW, AND IT WILL HELP WITH YOUR E-MAIL, BECAUSE WHEN
12:49:04PM YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT WHERE IT IS, RIGHT WHERE THE WATER
12:49:06PM PROBLEM IS, THAT WILL HELP YOU ALSO TO FIGURE OUT WHERE
12:49:12PM RESOURCES NEED TO GO THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT.
12:49:15PM I KNOW THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF A PROBLEM AS WELL.
12:49:18PM >>VIK BHIDE: YEAH, WE HAVE FLOOD REPORTING TOOL THAT REALLY
12:49:24PM DOESN'T WORK THAT WELL, THE FLOOD MAP.
12:49:26PM AND WE ARE WORKING ON A BETTER SYSTEM.
12:49:28PM BUT BEYOND THE HOT SPOTS, BECAUSE THE HOT SPOTS ARE BEFORE
12:49:31PM SOMETHING HAPPENS.
12:49:32PM THEY ARE TYPICALLY THE LOW SPOTS.
12:49:35PM IT'S REALLY DRIVEN BY THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE AREA, WE DO GET
12:49:39PM REPORTS OF FLOODING, EITHER THROUGH TPD OR DIRECTLY THROUGH
12:49:43PM THE 3101 NUMBER AND THE NUMBER TO REPORT FLOODING
12:49:47PM 813-274-3101.
12:49:52PM AND THEN WE RESPOND TO THOSE.
12:49:53PM AND THOSE ARE TRACKED AGAIN THROUGH THE WORK MANAGEMENT
12:49:56PM SYSTEM.
12:49:56PM BUT THAT'S MORE RESPONSIVE.
12:49:58PM THE MORE PROACTIVE WE CAN GET, THAT IS REALLY THE GOAL
12:50:02PM ULTIMATELY.
12:50:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:50:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, IF NOTHING ELSE, I'LL
12:50:06PM GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:50:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
12:50:10PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, GOOD POINT ON THE HOT SPOTS.
12:50:12PM I REMEMBER INQUIRING, HEY, WHY AREN'T THERE ANY SANDBAG
12:50:15PM LOCATIONS FOR NORTH TAMPA?
12:50:17PM DOESN'T FLOOD.
12:50:18PM WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW, RIGHT?
12:50:20PM I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.
12:50:22PM MR. BHIDE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
12:50:25PM YOUR STATEMENT IS THAT THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BACKUP
12:50:27PM GENERATORS AND PUMPS.
12:50:28PM >>VIK BHIDE: CORRECT, YES.
12:50:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND I ALREADY E-MAILED
12:50:33PM MY EIGHT ON THIS IS BECAUSE THE NORTH TAMPA COMMUNITY,
12:50:37PM WHICH, AGAIN, LIKE MANY COMMUNITIES, DIDN'T SEE THIS
12:50:41PM SOMETHING, IS OBVIOUSLY VERY, VERY NERVOUS.
12:50:44PM A LOT OF ANXIETY OUT THERE.
12:50:46PM I'M GOING TO HAVE A MARCH COMMUNITY MEETING OVER IN NORTH
12:50:49PM TAMPA, WHETHER IT IS FOREST HILLS, OVERLOOK, WHERE EVERYBODY
12:50:53PM CAN GATHER AND CONGREGATE, WHERE STAFF, WHETHER IT'S YOU OR
12:50:56PM ANYBODY ELSE, DOESN'T NEED TO BE YOU, CAN COME AND BRIEF
12:51:00PM THAT COMMUNITY ON WHAT'S BEING DONE.
12:51:04PM BECAUSE PEOPLE, GOSH, FOLKS ARE SCARRED OUT THERE.
12:51:09PM THEY ARE VERY, VERY SCARRED.
12:51:11PM THERE'S KNOW 2, 3, 4, 5 MILLION HOMES OUT THERE.
12:51:17PM THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
12:51:20PM THEY ARE NURSES, TEACHERS, TEACHER AIDES OUT THERE,
12:51:23PM EDUCATORS, COPS, FIREFIGHTERS, WELDERS, ELECTRICIANS,
12:51:27PM ET CETERA.
12:51:27PM AND LIKE EVERYBODY WHO WAS HIT, WHETHER IN ZONE X OR ZONE
12:51:32PM WHATEVER, PEOPLE ARE SCARRED.
12:51:34PM THEY NEVER THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PART OF THEIR
12:51:37PM EXISTENCE OUT THERE SO THEY WANT EVERY SINGLE GUARANTEE THAT
12:51:40PM THINGS ARE BEING DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PREPARE FOR THE
12:51:44PM WORST.
12:51:45PM SO I DO THINK THAT IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT AND WE'LL BE
12:51:48PM WORKING WITH YOU ALL ON THAT TO GET DATES, ET CETERA.
12:51:51PM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AS WELL, I WAS TALKING TO THE
12:51:53PM OFFICE OF A STATE SENATOR OVER IN TALLAHASSEE AND TALKING
12:51:56PM ABOUT STATE FUNDING.
12:51:57PM ARE WE REQUESTING ANY FUNDS FROM TALLAHASSEE FOR ASSISTANCE
12:52:01PM ON THIS INFRASTRUCTURE?
12:52:04PM >>VIK BHIDE: I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
12:52:08PM CURRENT LEGISLATURE, I'M NOT AWARE.
12:52:10PM I KNOW THAT THROUGH FEMA AND THE STATE SYSTEM WE DID.
12:52:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:52:14PM I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR A WRITTEN REPORT ON THAT BECAUSE I
12:52:17PM THINK THE CUTOFF IS THE END OF FEBRUARY, IF I RECALL, AND
12:52:20PM THAT GOES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS HOUSING, MAKING SURE
12:52:23PM THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT DONE.
12:52:25PM SO WHAT I WOULD TELL FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC AND I GUESS WE HAVE
12:52:29PM FOLKS HERE MAYBE WHO WERE FLOODED AND DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU
12:52:32PM ARE PLANT CITY OR TOWN N' COUNTRY OR NORTH TAMPA OR SOUTH
12:52:36PM TAMPA, IS TO PLEASE DON'T STOP GOING TO PUBLIC FORUMS AND
12:52:40PM TELLING PEOPLE YOUR STORY.
12:52:43PM BECAUSE IF THE FLOODING AND THE TRAGEDY DIDN'T HAPPEN TO
12:52:45PM YOU, IT'S VERY EASY TO FORGET ABOUT IT.
12:52:48PM THAT'S HUMAN NATURE, RIGHT?
12:52:50PM THAT'S WHY EMPATHY IS SOMETHING THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.
12:52:52PM BUT TO ALWAYS TELL YOUR STORY AND TO BE ACTIVE IN CONNECTING
12:52:56PM WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW YOUR STORIES
12:52:59PM BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEVASTATED, SCARRED, PTSD, GONE
12:53:05PM THROUGH THE WORST HELL IN LIFE THAT I'VE SEEN.
12:53:09PM AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO TELL YOUR STORY AND NOT
12:53:12PM LET PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT 110 DAYS AGO.
12:53:17PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:53:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:53:18PM WE'LL START PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:53:19PM THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
12:53:25PM DO YOU WANT ME TO COME TO YOU IN A LITTLE BIT?
12:53:36PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:53:43PM >> MY NAME IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
12:53:46PM I LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:53:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
12:53:51PM CAN YOU TURN THE SPOTLIGHT OFF?
12:53:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE SHOULD LET PEOPLE SPEAK.
12:53:56PM THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
12:54:00PM I MAKE A MOTION TO NOT TIME PEOPLE ON THIS.
12:54:06PM LET HER SPEAK TO WHAT SHE NEEDS TO SPEAK TO.
12:54:09PM I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT HER THOUGHTS.
12:54:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
12:54:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:54:13PM AYE.
12:54:15PM GO AHEAD.
12:54:15PM YOU ALREADY STATED YOUR NAME.
12:54:19PM >> FIRST I HAVE TO SAY HE IS A LIAR.
12:54:22PM HE KNEW SINCE IDALIA THERE WAS AN ISSUE.
12:54:27PM IDALIA CAME THREE FEET UP AND IT CAME TO MY FLOORBOARDS AND
12:54:33PM I'VE BEEN FIGHTING -- THANK YOU.
12:54:35PM I'VE BEEN FIGHTING WITH THEM SINCE IDALIA.
12:54:38PM HE HAD ENOUGH TIME.
12:54:40PM WHAT HAPPENS IS THE WESTSHORE POINT APARTMENTS WERE BUILT
12:54:44PM AND THEY BLOCKED ALL THE DRAINAGES.
12:54:47PM DITCHES ALL IN THERE AND I CAN SHOW YOU PICTURES OF ALL THE
12:54:51PM DITCHES THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO FILL IN AND BLOCK AND THEY
12:54:57PM BUILT A 15-FOOT WALL 400 FEET LONG AND BENCHY WAS HIRED
12:55:06PM IRONICALLY AFTER THE FIRST FLOOD THAT WAS IN 11/11/2020.
12:55:12PM THAT'S HOW THEY GOT HIRED.
12:55:14PM BENCHY.
12:55:14PM KATHERINE HARTLEY.
12:55:17PM SHE ADMITTED IN THE MEETING THAT SHE SAID THAT THE
12:55:22PM APARTMENTS WAS NOT A GOOD CHOICE AND HOW THE 15-FOOT WALL
12:55:28PM OBVIOUSLY ON WETLAND BUILT WILL BLOCK YOUR OVERFLOW, SO NOW
12:55:34PM ELLICOTT NEVER FLOODED OVER THERE, NOW THEY ARE GETTING ALL
12:55:37PM THIS WATER.
12:55:39PM I'M GETTING ALL THIS WATER.
12:55:40PM MY HOUSE IS 111 YEARS OLD.
12:55:43PM I HAVE AN AUTISTIC BLIND CHILD.
12:55:48PM I LIVE IN FEAR.
12:55:55PM THIS HAS BEEN THE WORST I'VE EVER -- 6.77 FEET IN MY HOME
12:56:04PM WITH SEWER AND SALTWATER, DESTROYED EVERYTHING.
12:56:09PM I LOST EVERYTHING.
12:56:13PM I CAN'T EVEN EXPRESS WHAT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO AND WHAT
12:56:20PM THEY DID NOT CARE.
12:56:22PM I KEPT FIGHTING WITH THEM.
12:56:23PM IF THEY TALK ABOUT THE HOT LINE AND THE SPOTS, ONLY NORTH OF
12:56:27PM GANDY WAS ALLOWED TO PIN, NOT SOUTH OF GANDY.
12:56:32PM AND GUESS WHAT, WHEN YOU CALL STORMWATER AND THEY KNOW YOU
12:56:36PM ARE BY PORT TAMPA, OH, WE ALREADY KNOW YOU FLOOD AND CAME UP
12:56:41PM ON YOU.
12:56:42PM THEY DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT US.
12:56:44PM IT WAS VERY CORRUPT AND VERY SAD.
12:56:46PM THEN HELENE CAME AND THAT WAS BAD.
12:56:54PM BUT THEN A WEEK AND A HALF LATER, MILTON CAME AND MY HOUSE
12:57:01PM WAS DESTROYED.
12:57:03PM BLESS HIS HEART, BILL CAME OUT THAT NEXT DAY AND HE WENT ALL
12:57:07PM AROUND MY HOUSE.
12:57:11PM THERE'S NO DRAINAGES ANYWHERE.
12:57:13PM NOT ONE DRAINAGE.
12:57:14PM WE GOT A BIG CAP IN PARK RIGHT IN FRONT.
12:57:18PM NO DRAINAGE.
12:57:19PM AND THEN THE WESTSHORE POINTS WERE ALLOWED TO PUT ALL THEIR
12:57:23PM DRAINAGE OUT ON TO PRESCOTT.
12:57:25PM SO HE WAS HAVING A SECRET NEWS MEETING NOT TELLING NOBODY,
12:57:30PM AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
12:57:31PM I RAN DOWN THERE AND ALL THE NEWS PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THE
12:57:35PM REAL STORY.
12:57:36PM HE WAS TRYING TO BLAME IT ON TROPICAL DEBBY, HURRICANE DEBBY
12:57:39PM THAT THAT TORE UP PRESCOTT.
12:57:42PM THAT WASN'T THE TRUTH AT ALL.
12:57:45PM AND MILTON, I HAD TO EVACUATE.
12:57:53PM DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS COMING HOME TO A HOME OR NOT.
12:57:56PM AND THERE WAS THIS ONE THING THAT WAS ACTUALLY NOT WET, AND
12:58:01PM IT SAID GOD GOT ME.
12:58:04PM I PUT IT ON MY MAILBOX.
12:58:14PM IT'S SO CORRUPT WHAT THEY DID NEXT DOOR AND IT WASN'T FAIR.
12:58:17PM IT WAS NOT FAIR.
12:58:19PM I WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.
12:58:26PM I'M SORRY.
12:58:27PM THIS HAS PUT ME IN PTSD.
12:58:33PM IT'S JUST SO BAD.
12:58:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT IT DOWN THERE AND IT WILL COME UP ON
12:58:41PM THE TV SCREEN.
12:58:42PM THEY ARE ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT.
12:58:51PM WE SEE THE OVERHEAD AERIAL MAP.
12:58:54PM >> SO THIS WAS IN 2013.
12:59:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LEAVE IT DOWN.
12:59:01PM IT'S IN FOCUS ALREADY.
12:59:02PM >> SO YOU CAN SEE THE DRAINAGES IN 2013 LEADING TO THE
12:59:07PM WATER.
12:59:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD YOU SHOW US WHERE YOUR HOUSE IS?
12:59:13PM >> MY HOUSE IS THAT LITTLE BLACK DOT, LITTLE SQUARE.
12:59:19PM IT IS A BEAUTIFUL, HISTORICAL HOME.
12:59:22PM I LOST HALF OF MY KIDS.
12:59:27PM THEY HAD TO MOVE OUT OF STATE.
12:59:28PM I ONLY HAD ONE OF MY KIDS THAT WAS A CAREGIVER FOR ME TO
12:59:31PM GIVE ME SOME RELIEF WITH MY DISABLED SON, AND HE WENT TO
12:59:36PM IOWA.
12:59:37PM HEARTACHE.
12:59:42PM THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.
12:59:46PM IF YOU COULD SEE, THEY BLOCKED EVERY ONE OF THOSE DITCHES.
12:59:51PM AND YOU COULD SEE, AND THEY PURPOSELY MADE THAT DESIGN.
12:59:57PM IT WAS A DEVELOPER SABOTAGE.
12:59:59PM THIS LINE RIGHT HERE, THAT ONE IS GOING OUT.
1:00:03PM THEY BLOCKED IT.
1:00:04PM THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE LINE GOING, THEY
1:00:07PM BLOCKED THEM ALL.
1:00:08PM THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE LINES, HOW THEY BLOCKED BOTH OF THEM.
1:00:16PM THIS WAS MY HOUSE.
1:00:17PM THAT WAS AT 8:15.
1:00:23PM THAT WAS AT 9:00.
1:00:24PM IT CAME IN SO FAST, CAN'T EVEN HOW THAT FAST.
1:00:33PM I MEAN, IT WAS ONCE IT WAS UP TO YOUR KNEE AND THEN YOUR
1:00:38PM HIP.
1:00:38PM THIS WAS DEBBY.
1:00:47PM THE ONE RIGHT BEFORE HURRICANE HELENE.
1:00:51PM THAT MUCH WATER CAME THROUGH.
1:00:57PM THIS WAS BACK IN 2012.
1:00:59PM THAT WAS THE MOST WATER WE'VE EVER HAD IN 2012.
1:01:03PM AND THAT DIDN'T EVEN GET UP TO MY STEP.
1:01:06PM THAT'S WHAT HAS ALWAYS -- I'VE ONLY SEEN THAT ONE TIME SINCE
1:01:11PM I'VE BEEN THERE.
1:01:13PM I'M SORRY.
1:01:21PM THIS IS SO EMOTIONAL FOR ME.
1:01:31PM I THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME.
1:01:33PM SO THIS IS A LITTLE STORY.
1:01:41PM YOU CAN SEE WE'RE LIVING UPSTAIRS.
1:01:54PM THAT'S MY SON.
1:01:56PM I'M LIVING OUT OF A BAG.
1:02:01PM DESTROYED EVERYTHING.
1:02:10PM THAT'S THE END.
1:02:20PM THAT'S HOW HELENE CAME THROUGH.
1:02:24PM CAN'T EVEN SEAT PALM TREES PRETTY MUCH.
1:02:26PM THE OTHER PART TOO HE DOESN'T TELL YOU THAT STORMWATER TOLD
1:02:44PM ME TO GO SUE DEVELOPERS.
1:02:47PM THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO ANYMORE.
1:02:49PM WELL, ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU SAW THAT CAME IN EARLIER,
1:02:53PM THOSE PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF THIS.
1:02:58PM THIS IS A BIG THING THEY HAVE DONE.
1:03:02PM AND IT'S REALLY SAD WHAT WAS ALLOWED AND I DON'T THINK SOUTH
1:03:07PM OF GANDY NEEDS TO BE BEING BUILT ANYMORE.
1:03:12PM THEY NEED TO FIX WHAT'S GOING ON NOW.
1:03:14PM I PAY MY TAXES LIKE EVERYBODY.
1:03:16PM I EVEN PAY FOR STORMWATER AND DRAINAGE.
1:03:20PM I DON'T EVEN HAVE A DRAIN.
1:03:21PM I HAVE NOTHING.
1:03:23PM AND THEN THIS GUY LET THEM BUILD THIS WALL AND IT IS JUST
1:03:33PM DESTROYING EVERYTHING, AND IT'S NOT -- I JUST WANT MY HOME
1:03:41PM BACK.
1:03:41PM IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY ARE PURPOSEFULLY PUSHING YOU OUT.
1:03:45PM IT'S ALL I HAVE.
1:03:46PM MY SON, HE'S SO DISABLED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF QUALITY
1:03:53PM OF LIFE HE HAS LEFT.
1:03:57PM HE IS IN A PACK -- BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO HOME.
1:04:02PM IT'S JUST HORRIBLE.
1:04:11PM THIS IS HEARTBREAKING.
1:04:12PM THIS IS REALLY HEARTBREAKING AND THERE'S NOT ONE CARE.
1:04:16PM THEY DON'T CARE.
1:04:16PM I WOULD LOVE TO ASK HIM FOR HIS RESIGNATION AND ALEX AWAD.
1:04:25PM I DON'T THINK THEY DESERVE TO BE RUNNING FOR THIS POSITION
1:04:28PM BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT DONE NOTHING IN THIS AREA.
1:04:31PM MAYBE, FOR THE RECORD, THERE MIGHT BE RETALIATION FROM THAT,
1:04:35PM SO IF ANYTHING DOES HAPPEN, I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T THINK
1:04:42PM WHAT'S GOING ON IS FAIR, AND IF YOU UNDERSTAND.
1:04:51PM I JUST HOPE YOU GUYS CAN HELP THE SMALL PEOPLE.
1:04:58PM DON'T ALLOW THE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD TEN FEET HIGH.
1:05:02PM I LOST 24 FAMILIES IN MY AREA.
1:05:07PM 24 FAMILIES HAD TO FORFEIT THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF THIS.
1:05:10PM AND THEN WHEN HE WAS OVER THERE TRYING TO DO HIS SECRET NEWS
1:05:15PM AND WHEN THEY SEEN THE 15-FOOT WALL -- OH, I DIDN'T SHOW YOU
1:05:18PM THAT ONE.
1:05:19PM THE 15-FOOT WALL.
1:05:22PM THIS WILL SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT CORRUPTION IS.
1:05:24PM THEY BUILT THIS WALL.
1:05:32PM I'M SORRY.
1:05:32PM I'M JUST -- I DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE HIM TODAY.
1:05:37PM I CAN'T FIND IT.
1:05:48PM I'M FRAZZLED RIGHT NOW.
1:05:49PM IF YOU COULD POSSIBLY ENFORCE SOMETHING TO BE DONE.
1:06:02PM I SEE EVERYTHING GOING ON NORTH OF GANDY AND JANE CASTOR
1:06:05PM BROADCASTING NORTH OF GANDY.
1:06:07PM I DON'T SEE ONE TRUCK, ONE TRUCK BY US HELPING US AT ALL.
1:06:12PM NOTHING.
1:06:14PM AND THIS ONE MAN, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GET TO,
1:06:19PM LIKE, TO SAY SOMETHING WHO LIVES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
1:06:23PM HE TURN AROUND AND SAID, WHAT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE
1:06:27PM APARTMENTS?
1:06:27PM THEY ARE THE REASON WE FLOOD.
1:06:29PM SO ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY SAID LET ME SEE THAT PICTURE YOU
1:06:33PM HAVE OF THE 15-FOOT WALL.
1:06:35PM AND GUESS WHAT, ONE OF HIS FELLOW COLLEAGUES SAID, OH
1:06:42PM S-H-I-T AND ALL RAN OFF LIKE COCKROACHES.
1:06:45PM GUESS WHAT, NEXT WEEK, HE PUT IT AT ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL,
1:06:49PM THE MEETING.
1:06:51PM THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.
1:06:56PM I'M SORRY --
1:06:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I ASK HER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS?
1:06:59PM MICHELLE, THANK YOU FOR BEING BRAVE TO SHARE YOUR STORY, I
1:07:03PM TRIED TO SHARE IT A LOT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S INDICATIVE OF
1:07:07PM THE CHALLENGES THAT PEOPLE FACE.
1:07:09PM FIRST OF ALL, PEOPLE THINK THAT EVERYONE IN SOUTH TAMPA HAS
1:07:12PM A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSE, AND IS RICH AND CAN PAY THEIR
1:07:16PM OWN REPAIRS, AND MICHELLE IS VERY INDICATIVE OF HER
1:07:19PM NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, SOMETIMES
1:07:24PM DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN REPAIRS.
1:07:27PM I'LL ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
1:07:29PM TO ILLUSTRATE THE PLIGHT, NOT JUST SOUTH TAMPA, BUT SOUTH
1:07:32PM TAMPA WAS HIT ALL OVER AND IT'S NOT ALL RICH PEOPLE, I WANT
1:07:37PM TO ASK YOU QUICKLY, YOUR HOUSE IS LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD,
1:07:41PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
1:07:42PM >> 111.
1:07:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO HISTORIC HOME.
1:07:45PM HOW FAR OFF THE GROUND IS IT?
1:07:47PM >> FOUR AND A HALF FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
1:07:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON BLOCKS OR SOMETHING.
1:07:52PM >> YES.
1:07:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MUCH OFF THE GROUND?
1:07:55PM >> ABOUT FOUR FEET.
1:07:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU HAVE TO TAKE STAIRS TO GET UP TO YOUR
1:07:59PM HOUSE.
1:07:59PM IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN PUT THE MAP BACK, THE BIG AERIAL
1:08:03PM ONE THAT SHOWS THE WHOLE AREA?
1:08:04PM SHE TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE IN THE AREA, BUT I
1:08:09PM THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF STORM SURGE.
1:08:12PM WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT FRESHWATER FLOODING,
1:08:15PM BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT STORM SURGE.
1:08:21PM WHEN YOU SEE THIS MAP, ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT
1:08:25PM ENVIRONMENTALISTS TALK ABOUT TO PROTECT SHORELINES IS TO
1:08:27PM RESTORE THE MANGROVES AND NATIVE VEGETATION.
1:08:31PM AND IN THIS CASE, THERE IS A HUGE AREA THAT THE WATER
1:08:38PM CROSSED BEFORE IT GOT TO HER HOUSE.
1:08:40PM HOW HIGH WAS THE WATER WHEN IT HIT YOUR HOUSE?
1:08:43PM >> 6.77 FEET.
1:08:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE THE MAP UP?
1:08:46PM SO THE SHORELINE IS WHERE -- COULD YOU POINT TO THOSE KIND
1:08:53PM OF CLOUDS AT THE TOP.
1:08:55PM THAT IS LIKE THE SHORELINE.
1:08:56PM POINT TO YOUR HOUSE.
1:08:58PM IT WENT ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE NATIVE VEGETATION.
1:09:01PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT WAS RESTORED, BUT IT WENT ALL
1:09:03PM THE WAY ACROSS THERE AND WAS STILL --
1:09:05PM >> IT IS A FULL MARSH.
1:09:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: STILL HIT 6.5 FEET BY THE TIME -- AND WE SEE
1:09:11PM IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE BAYSIDE WEST AND CULBREATH ISLES
1:09:15PM THAT THE SAME THING HAPPENED.
1:09:16PM ALSO, COULD YOU TELL US REAL FAST, WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME SO
1:09:21PM FAR -- YOU DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE, RIGHT?
1:09:24PM >> NO, I DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE.
1:09:26PM MY HOUSE WAS PAID IN FULL AND I WAS GRANDFATHERED IN, AND
1:09:31PM THERE WAS NEVER AN ISSUE IN OUR AREA.
1:09:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSES IN THE PORT TAMPA
1:09:40PM AREA THAT ARE MULTIGENERATIONAL HOUSES, MANY HISTORIC HOMES.
1:09:44PM THERE IS HISTORIC AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY THERE, FOR
1:09:46PM EXAMPLE, WHERE HOMES WERE PASSED FROM ONE GENERATION TO THE
1:09:49PM NEXT.
1:09:49PM AND MANY, MANY OF THEM DID NOT HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE AND
1:09:52PM DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE AT ALL BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE
1:09:54PM MORTGAGES.
1:09:55PM THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE IT.
1:09:56PM YOU DIDN'T GET ANY INSURANCE MONEY.
1:09:59PM WHAT WAS THE RESULT WITH FEMA?
1:10:00PM DID YOU GET ANYTHING?
1:10:02PM >> $7,000.
1:10:03PM AND THEY TOLD ME BECAUSE I BOUGHT THE HOUSE AT 50 GRAND, BUT
1:10:08PM I PUT IN 340,000 INTO IT.
1:10:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THE DAMAGES ARE?
1:10:15PM >> DON'T GO THERE.
1:10:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS A PROBLEM.
1:10:20PM SOMEBODY WATCHING HAVE A SOLUTION, PLEASE HELP HER.
1:10:23PM I KNOW THIS WILL BE HARD FOR YOU TO TELL, BUT I THINK WE
1:10:25PM NEED TO TELL THE STORY.
1:10:27PM YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DISABILITY OF YOUR SON.
1:10:29PM I'LL JUST TELL PART OF THE STORY AND YOU CAN TELL THE REST.
1:10:32PM YOU HAD JUST BOUGHT LIKE $50,000 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT, SPECIAL
1:10:36PM BED, SPECIAL CHAIR AND OTHER EQUIPMENT.
1:10:38PM AND TELL EVERYBODY WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT EQUIPMENT AND WHAT
1:10:43PM FEMA OR OTHERS SAID.
1:10:45PM WERE YOU ABLE TO REPLACE IT?
1:10:46PM TELL US LITERALLY WHAT HAPPENED.
1:10:49PM YOU HAD TO PICK UP YOUR SON AND CARRY HIM UPSTAIRS TO THE
1:10:52PM THIRD FLOOR, RIGHT, DURING THE STORM.
1:10:54PM I'M SORRY TO BRING THAT UP.
1:10:56PM THIS IS SOMETHING A LOT OF FAMILIES HAD TO FACE.
1:10:58PM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SHARE.
1:11:01PM >> HE JUST GOT A $32,000 SAFETY BED BECAUSE HE'S
1:11:05PM SELF-DESTRUCTIVE AND SELF-MUTILATES.
1:11:08PM THIS MOM WAS WORN OUT.
1:11:12PM NOT BEING HOME, IT'S REALLY HARD.
1:11:18PM GOT DESTROYED.
1:11:25PM GOT IT ON MONDAY AND HELENE CAME ON WEDNESDAY.
1:11:28PM HE ONLY GOT TO BE IN IT ONE DAY.
1:11:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: DID YOU GET ANY MONEY TO REPLACE IT?
1:11:33PM >> NO, THERE WAS A WEATHER WAIVER.
1:11:35PM THEY SAID THEY WOULD HELP ME.
1:11:38PM AND I'M WAITING FOR THE NEW BED.
1:11:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CHAIR, DO I REMEMBER 15 GRAND OR
1:11:43PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
1:11:45PM >> UM-HUM.
1:11:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WAS DESTROYED TOO.
1:11:47PM >> EVERYTHING WAS DESTROYED.
1:11:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: $50,000 WORTH OF EQUIPMENT.
1:11:50PM THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CONSIDER.
1:11:51PM >> ALL MY CARS.
1:11:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: PEOPLE WITH EQUIPMENT THAT'S DISABLED,
1:11:56PM UNLESS THOSE HIGH-END ITEMS ARE SPECIFICALLY ITEMIZED IN
1:12:00PM THEIR INSURANCE, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY COVERAGE FOR IT AT
1:12:02PM ALL.
1:12:03PM ANYWAY, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR STORY AND TO
1:12:07PM ALL THE HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES LIKE YOU OUT THERE, WE GRIEVE
1:12:10PM FOR YOU AND WE'RE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN
1:12:14PM TO HELP.
1:12:14PM >> I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF I COULD.
1:12:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
1:12:19PM ONLY WE MAKE MOTIONS.
1:12:22PM >> WELL, I WOULD LOVE FOR HIS RESIGNATION, VIK BHIDE AND
1:12:28PM ALEX AWAD.
1:12:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
1:12:34PM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR, CARROLL ANN BENNETT,
1:12:38PM STEVE MICHELINI, ANNELIESE MEIER, MARILYN SAMAHA.
1:12:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO EXTEND TIME.
1:12:50PM WHAT TIME DO YOU THINK WE NEED?
1:12:53PM >> I DON'T KNOW.
1:12:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: 1:30.
1:12:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN HOLD NEW BUSINESS UNTIL
1:12:59PM TONIGHT.
1:13:00PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:13:02PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
1:13:03PM I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
1:13:05PM I'LL BE LESS THAN THREE MINUTES.
1:13:08PM I GOT THE STORMWATER ENGINEERING LIST ALL THE EMPLOYEES.
1:13:13PM WHEN I ADD THEM UP AND I'M COUNTING IN THE BACK AND I
1:13:15PM REALIZED I COUNTED BEFORE, EITHER 104 OR 105, WHERE DID THE
1:13:21PM 62 NUMBER COME FROM.
1:13:23PM AND I STILL AM KIND OF BEFUDDLED THE WHOLE STORMWATER
1:13:29PM EMPLOYEES AND THE -- WHAT DID I FIGURE IT WAS, 78% GOING TO
1:13:34PM PERSONNEL.
1:13:34PM I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN IN A WHILE, BUT
1:13:38PM I MADE MY BINDER.
1:13:40PM I'LL DIG IT BACK UP.
1:13:41PM CARROLL ANN AND I HAVE WORKED DESPERATELY TO TEACH EVERYBODY
1:13:47PM SOUTH OF GANDY TO REPORT FLOODING.
1:13:51PM EVERY TIME IT RAINS, WE TELL EVERYBODY, WE BUMP OUR POST.
1:13:54PM HERE IS THE CONNECTION.
1:13:55PM HERE IS HOW YOU REPORT IT.
1:13:57PM IT'S NEVER SHOWN UP ANYWHERE.
1:13:59PM IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING.
1:14:00PM I'M GLAD THAT MR. BHIDE ADMITTED TO US TODAY THAT THE SYSTEM
1:14:03PM REALLY DOESN'T WORK VERY WELL, BUT WE NEED TO GET THAT FIXED
1:14:06PM YESTERDAY.
1:14:07PM WHERE ARE THESE BACKUP GENERATORS GOING TO BE STORED?
1:14:09PM WHO IS GOING TO START THEM?
1:14:11PM HOW DO THEY ACTUALLY START?
1:14:13PM ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THEM TEN FEET UP IN THE AIR SO THEY
1:14:17PM WILL BE NOT BE WATERLOGGED IF A GENERATOR IS SITTING NEXT TO
1:14:21PM SOMETHING ON THE FLOOR, IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD?
1:14:23PM AND HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST TO HAVE THE PLATFORMS
1:14:27PM BUILT TO PUT THE GENERATORS ON?
1:14:28PM I DON'T KNOW.
1:14:29PM CHANGES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT,
1:14:36PM BUT THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
1:14:38PM FIRST OF ALL, THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, ESPECIALLY
1:14:41PM IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREAS, NEEDS TO BE LESS THAN 50%.
1:14:45PM WHY IS IT 50%?
1:14:47PM THEN PEOPLE GO IN AND BUILD FENCES AND BUILD WALLS AND BUILD
1:14:50PM SWIMMING POOLS AND THEN THEY BUILD -- YOU KNOW, AND THEY PUT
1:14:54PM TURF DOWN.
1:14:55PM THEN WE DON'T HAVE PERMEABLE SURFACES ANYMORE OR THEY TAKE
1:14:59PM OUT THE TREES THAT THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE OUT.
1:15:02PM ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE COASTAL AREA ACTION PLAN THAT ONE
1:15:06PM OF THESE DAYS YOU GUYS WILL GET TO SEE IS TALKING ABOUT
1:15:09PM REDUCING THAT PERMEABILITY.
1:15:13PM THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO START TALKING TO THE
1:15:16PM CITY ABOUT.
1:15:17PM I THINK KATHERINE HARTLEY, WHEN SHE DID THE COASTAL ACTION
1:15:19PM AREA PLAN, DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TALKING ABOUT BIOSWALES.
1:15:23PM SHE'S GOT TWO, THREE PAGES.
1:15:24PM I SENT YOU GUYS AN E-MAIL ONE DAY WITH ALL THE IDEAS
1:15:28PM HANDWRITTEN ON THERE.
1:15:29PM WE NEED TO START ENCOURAGING CITIZENS TO DO THOSE THINGS ON
1:15:32PM THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.
1:15:33PM IF WE'RE BETTER AT EXPLAINING THESE PEOPLE, JUST LIKE THE
1:15:37PM TURF CONVERSATION, WE HAD ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO SAID, OH,
1:15:40PM TURF IS WONDERFUL, IT'S THE BEST.
1:15:43PM THEY DON'T REALIZE IT ONLY MAKES FLOODING WORSE.
1:15:45PM THANK YOU.
1:15:45PM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
1:15:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:15:47PM YES, MA'AM.
1:15:47PM CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND STEVE MICHELINI.
1:15:52PM >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
1:15:54PM I WANT TO SAY THAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT MICHELLE IS
1:15:58PM TALKING ABOUT WAS BUILT ON MARSHLAND.
1:16:02PM THERE WAS A MAN -- OLD MAN WHO LIVED IN HIS HOME FOR 60
1:16:05PM YEARS.
1:16:05PM HIS NEIGHBORS CAME YEARS AGO AND SHOWED A PICTURE OF WHAT
1:16:10PM THOSE APARTMENTS, HOW THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODED FOR THE
1:16:12PM FIRST TIME BECAUSE THAT WAS MARSHLAND.
1:16:14PM YOU HAD ALL THAT NATURAL BARRIER TO PROTECT THEM.
1:16:17PM THAT POOR OLD MAN TRIED TO FIX THE DAMAGE HIMSELF.
1:16:20PM HE JUST COULDN'T DO IT.
1:16:22PM HE ENDED UP SELLING HIS HOUSE.
1:16:24PM HE WAS LIVING THERE FOR REALLY CHEAP, CHEAPLY.
1:16:27PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM.
1:16:29PM IT'S VERY DISTURBING TO ME THAT THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN.
1:16:32PM I'M GOING TO SHOW THIS TO YOU.
1:16:35PM I THINK THIS IS REALLY, REALLY RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT TO
1:16:39PM CONSIDER.
1:16:39PM >> VIDEO: PUNCH UP WEATHER 2.
1:16:43PM LISTEN TO THIS STAT, EVERYBODY.
1:16:44PM IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, WE'VE HAD EIGHT CONTINENTAL
1:16:48PM LANDFALLS OF CAT 4 OR CAT 5s.
1:16:51PM EIGHT IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS.
1:16:54PM AND THAT IS AS MANY AS WE'VE HAD IN THE 50, 70 YEARS PRIOR
1:16:58PM TO THAT.
1:16:59PM CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?
1:17:00PM LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN.
1:17:02PM THE PAST 8 YEARS, SEVEN OF THEM BEING CONTINENTAL LANDFALLS
1:17:07PM BUT 8 LANDFALLS OF CAT 4s AND CAT 5s, THAT'S AS MANY CAT
1:17:11PM 4s AND CAT 5 LANDFALLS THAT OCCURRED IN THE PRIOR 57
1:17:15PM YEARS.
1:17:16PM WE'RE SEEING A BIG SURGE IN MAJOR HURRICANES.
1:17:18PM AND ACROSS THE GULF OF MEXICO RIGHT THERE, WE'VE HAD NINE
1:17:22PM MAJOR HURRICANES IN EIGHT YEARS RIGHT THERE.
1:17:24PM IN FACT, THE ONE THAT'S NOT ON THERE, LET ME GET IT UP FOR A
1:17:28PM SECOND, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, ERIC, CAN YOU REACH BACK
1:17:31PM AND GO TO THE END OF THE TIMELINE ON THAT GRAPHIC?
1:17:33PM IF YOU GO TO THE END OF THE GRAPHIC, YOU'LL SEE HELENE POPS
1:17:38PM UP.
1:17:38PM THAT'S PRETTY ASTONISHING.
1:17:43PM YOU KNOW ABOUT THE STUDY I DID WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
1:17:46PM ENERGY.
1:17:48PM ERIC, YOU KNOW ABOUT IT TOO.
1:17:51PM WE DID A STUDY AND WE LOOKED AT THE FUTURE.
1:17:54PM OKAY, WATER TEMPERATURES ARE WARMING.
1:17:55PM AIR TEMPERATURES ARE WARMING.
1:17:56PM THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND.
1:17:57PM AT THE END OF THE CENTURY, SECOND HALF OF THE CENTURY, OUR
1:18:01PM COMPUTER MODELS, WE USE NINE BIG HARDY CLIMATE MODELS TO DO
1:18:05PM THIS, SAY THAT OUR MAJOR HURRICANE LANDFALLS IN FLORIDA, AND
1:18:08PM ESPECIALLY IN THE TAMPA, AND EVERYWHERE IN FLORIDA,
1:18:11PM ESPECIALLY TAMPA DOWN TO MIAMI AND INCLUDING FORT MYERS,
1:18:13PM WILL INCREASE BY THREE TIMES.
1:18:15PM INSTEAD OF SEEING A MAJOR HURRICANE LANDFALL ONCE EVERY
1:18:18PM HUNDRED YEARS FOR ANYONE COUNTING, WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE IT
1:18:21PM THREE TIMES, ONCE EVERY 30 YEARS.
1:18:23PM IN ADDITION, WE'LL BE -- WHAT WE FOUND IN THE STUDY IS WE
1:18:27PM WOULD SEE ABOUT A 20% INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM INTENSITY OF
1:18:30PM WINDS.
1:18:30PM 20% IS A LOT.
1:18:32PM MEANS 150-MILE AN HOUR STORMS BECOMES 180-MILE AN HOUR
1:18:35PM STORM.
1:18:35PM MAXIMUM RAINFALL RATES INCREASED BY 50%.
1:18:39PM INSTEAD OF GETTING RAINFALL RATES OF LIKE THREE INCHES AN
1:18:42PM HOUR, YOU END UP WITH RAINFALL RATES OF LIKE FIVE INCHES PER
1:18:46PM HOUR.
1:18:46PM ALL THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THE ATMOSPHERE IS WARMING DUE TO
1:18:49PM CLIMATE CHANGE.
1:18:49PM THAT IS THE RESULT OF IT RIGHT THERE.
1:18:51PM ALL THESE EXCESS MAJOR HURRICANES MAKING LANDFALL IN THE
1:18:54PM U.S.
1:18:54PM AS MANY IN THE PAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AS WE'VE SEEN THE
1:18:58PM PRIOR 57 YEARS.
1:18:59PM IT'S AN INSURANCE NIGHTMARE.
1:19:03PM AS AN INSURANCE COMPANY, HOW DO YOU DO BUSINESS IN A PLACE
1:19:07PM THAT GETS THIS MANY MAJOR HURRICANES?
1:19:09PM BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT.
1:19:11PM >> LET ME JUST SAY, THAT WAS BEFORE MILTON.
1:19:14PM THAT WAS BEFORE MILTON.
1:19:17PM HE DIDN'T COUNT HELENE AND THIS WAS SEPTEMBER, IT WAS BEFORE
1:19:20PM MILTON.
1:19:21PM SO --
1:19:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:19:22PM YES, SIR, MR. MICHELINI, MARILYN, AND ANNELIESE MEIER IS OUR
1:19:27PM LAST SPEAKER.
1:19:29PM >> SEVERAL YEARS AGO, MR. MIRANDA POINTED OUT THAT THE
1:19:31PM STORMWATER MAINTENANCE CREW WAS A GENTLEMAN WITH A PICKUP
1:19:35PM TRUCK, WEED WHACKER AND MOWER AND HE STOPPED IT.
1:19:38PM THIS KIND OF MAINTENANCE HAS GOT TO STOP.
1:19:41PM WE NEED TO GET INTO SOME REALLY SERIOUS MAINTENANCE.
1:19:44PM TWO YEARS TO WAIT FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IS TOO LONG.
1:19:48PM I WOULD ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO AT LEAST CONSIDER AN
1:19:53PM IMMEDIATE INSERTION OF FUNDS, IF THE CITY CAN'T DO IT, THEN
1:19:59PM GO OUT TO A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR THAT CAN MAINTAIN THESE
1:20:02PM DITCHES, MAINTAIN THESE PONDS.
1:20:04PM I'LL JUST SHOW YOU ONE PICTURE QUICKLY THAT'S OVER IN THE
1:20:08PM SOHO DISTRICT.
1:20:09PM IT DOESN'T FUNCTION.
1:20:13PM THE OUTFALL IS BROKEN.
1:20:14PM THE DITCHES ARE OVERGROWN WITH TREES, NOT JUST SHRUBBERY,
1:20:19PM TREES.
1:20:22PM IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.
1:20:24PM MAINTENANCE IS A CRITICAL ISSUE AND IT IS AN IMMEDIATE
1:20:27PM ISSUE.
1:20:28PM CONSIDER LOOKING AT THE EXISTING STORMWATER SYSTEM AND
1:20:31PM INTERCONNECTING THE PIPES THAT ARE THERE.
1:20:33PM MANY OF THESE PIPES DON'T CONNECT TO OTHER PIPES.
1:20:36PM THEY GO AROUND IN A CIRCUITOUS MANNER.
1:20:41PM THEY EVENTUALLY GO EITHER DOWN MacDILL OR THEY GO DOWN
1:20:45PM AND THEY CONNECT TO THE POND THERE DOWN ROME.
1:20:50PM THEY GO IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
1:20:51PM BEING IN A FLOOD ZONE OR NOT BEING IN A FLOOD ZONE DOES NOT
1:20:56PM GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL BE SAFE.
1:21:01PM IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
1:21:02PM THE INTERSECTION NEAR MY HOUSE, SUNSET, PROSPECT AND WATROUS
1:21:07PM FLOODS EVERY RAIN.
1:21:09PM NOT EVERY HARD RAIN -- EVERY RAIN.
1:21:12PM STORMWATER INLETS ARE UPHILL FROM THE BASIN.
1:21:14PM I'VE TALKED TO VIK ABOUT IT AND THERE SIMPLY ISN'T ANY MONEY
1:21:21PM TO ADDRESS THAT RIGHT NOW.
1:21:22PM BUT THIS CONDITION EXISTS ALL OVER THE CITY, WHERE THESE
1:21:26PM INLETS DON'T FUNCTION BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED
1:21:29PM PROPERLY, THEY DON'T INTERCONNECT WITH ANYTHING.
1:21:33PM THE INLETS BY THEIR OWN REPORT, BY THE JMT REPORT, THE
1:21:39PM INLETS, MANY OF THE STORMWATER INLETS ARE TOO SMALL.
1:21:41PM THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE SMALL BECAUSE THEY CAN'T ACCEPT ALL
1:21:44PM THE WATER FLOW THAT'S COMING DOWN.
1:21:46PM MR. CARLSON, COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTIONED THE PROVISION FOR
1:21:51PM AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION FOR PARKLAND, WHICH WAS IT'S ALREADY
1:21:56PM BEEN DESIGNED.
1:21:57PM JMT DESIGNED IT, AT LEAST SCHEMATICALLY THEY HAVE DESIGNED
1:22:01PM IT.
1:22:01PM TO PUT IN A RETENTION VAULT WITH A PUMP STATION.
1:22:04PM IT'S ALREADY THERE.
1:22:05PM WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND ANOTHER TWO YEARS DESIGNING A SYSTEM.
1:22:10PM THE DIAGRAMS.
1:22:11PM THE DIAGRAMS, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPEC'D OUT FOR THE
1:22:15PM PUMPS, WHAT SIZE PUMPS THEY NEED.
1:22:17PM IT IS IN THE JMT REPORT THAT THEY USED AS A BACKUP.
1:22:22PM IT'S IN THEIR BACKGROUND REPORT.
1:22:25PM IT EXISTS IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
1:22:28PM IT'S THERE.
1:22:29PM WE NEED TO PULL THESE PLANS OFF THE SHELF AND GET TO WORK ON
1:22:33PM THIS IMMEDIATELY.
1:22:34PM CONSIDER CHANGING -- JUST ANOTHER COUPLE OF SECONDS.
1:22:38PM CONSIDER CHANGING THE BUILDING RULES.
1:22:40PM YOU DON'T GET AN INCENTIVE FOR PUTTING IN PERVIOUS CONCRETE.
1:22:44PM YOU GET A DISINCENTIVE.
1:22:46PM IF YOU WANT TO PUT IN A DRIVEWAY AND PUT IN A PERVIOUS
1:22:49PM CONCRETE, WHICH IS REQUIRED.
1:22:51PM YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE DRIVEWAY THERE, GIVE THEM A
1:22:55PM BONUS OF SOME KIND TO PUT IN SOMETHING THAT'S PERVIOUS, THAT
1:22:58PM HELPS THE PERCOLATION.
1:22:59PM LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING CODES
1:23:02PM THAT ARE DISINCENTIVES FOR STORMWATER.
1:23:06PM YOU'RE GOING BACK AND TRYING TO RETROFIT THE EXISTING
1:23:08PM CONDITIONS FROM A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, SOME OF THESE SITES
1:23:11PM WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
1:23:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD ENTER THOSE INTO
1:23:17PM THE RECORD.
1:23:18PM IF YOU HAVE THE WHOLE REPORT, IF YOU COULD E-MAIL IT TO US,
1:23:20PM I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
1:23:24PM >> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO E-MAIL TO COUNCIL.
1:23:26PM IT CONTAINS A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
1:23:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A CITY CALL I HAVE TO DO.
1:23:31PM I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IT AT 1:15.
1:23:34PM I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
1:23:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:23:36PM MARILYN SAMAHA.
1:23:38PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:23:43PM >> MARILYN SAMAHA.
1:23:45PM I LIVE AT 3224 WEST PARKLAND BOULEVARD.
1:23:47PM I WANT TO START OUT WITH SAYING I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
1:23:51PM WITH YOU ON TV THIS WEEK.
1:23:54PM I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME AND EFFORT IN
1:24:01PM LISTENING.
1:24:04PM I DON'T KNOW.
1:24:04PM YOU ALL ARE GREAT.
1:24:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GET TO TALK TO MY WIFE.
1:24:12PM >> I BELIEVE IT.
1:24:13PM I WANT TO START WITH THAT.
1:24:14PM I WANT TO START WITH THAT.
1:24:16PM THANK YOU.
1:24:16PM I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I'M ON THE BOARD OF PARKLAND ESTATES
1:24:21PM CIVIC CLUB.
1:24:22PM I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, WE ARE THE ONLY OFFICIAL CIVIC
1:24:27PM ASSOCIATION FOR PARKLAND ESTATES.
1:24:31PM WE'RE REGISTERED WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
1:24:33PM WE HAVE BYLAWS, AND WE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS, JUST LIKE YOU,
1:24:37PM FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:24:38PM THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO DISCOUNT THAT AND
1:24:43PM SAY OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
1:24:47PM I'M SORRY THAT THE KIND OF BRUSH-OVER OF THE DETENTION PONDS
1:24:55PM NORTH OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WERE KIND OF GLOSSED OVER.
1:25:00PM AND I WOULD LIKE JUST TO ADDRESS THOSE.
1:25:03PM I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET IT TODAY IN A WRITTEN REPORT,
1:25:10PM BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FULL ASSESSMENT AND BE REPORTING
1:25:15PM BACK TO YOU ABOUT THE DETENTION PONDS THAT ARE UNDERNEATH
1:25:20PM THE MEMORIAL HOTEL -- I MEAN, HOTEL, HILARIOUS -- HOSPITAL.
1:25:26PM UNDER THEIR PARKING LOT AND THE OTHER TWO THAT ARE NORTH,
1:25:32PM KIND OF EAST OF THAT.
1:25:34PM TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THEY HAVE GLOWING RECORDS OF LAPSED
1:25:39PM PERMITTING AND MAINTENANCE.
1:25:42PM SOME OF THEM ARE NOT EVEN PERMITTED RIGHT NOW.
1:25:45PM SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHO IS TAKING CARE OF THEM, WHO IS
1:25:49PM RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM, SO THAT IS A BIG THING, BECAUSE ALL
1:25:52PM THAT WATER COMES OVER THOSE AND COMES RIGHT DOWN ALBANY AND
1:25:57PM COMES RIGHT DOWN ARMENIA.
1:25:59PM THAT'S ONE THING.
1:26:01PM FOUNTAIN PARK, WE'VE ASKED FOR THIS.
1:26:05PM IT CANNOT BE THAT DIFFICULT TO SEE IF THE GIANT -- AND I
1:26:08PM MEAN IT WAS A GIANT POOL THAT WAS IN FOUNTAIN PARK, IS IT
1:26:13PM STILL THERE?
1:26:14PM IS IT STILL UNDER THE DIRT?
1:26:15PM I CAN IMAGINE A COUPLE OF BORINGS WOULD FIGURE THAT OUT.
1:26:19PM AND IF IT IS, IT'S HUGE.
1:26:22PM IT'S HUGE.
1:26:23PM SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT EITHER YEA OR NAY SO WE CAN
1:26:29PM KNOW WHAT THAT SURFACE IS LIKE UNDER THERE.
1:26:32PM THE ALBANY POND OVER BY WINN DIXIE HAS BEEN MENTIONED
1:26:36PM SEVERAL TIMES.
1:26:37PM IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED AND CLEANED OUT.
1:26:40PM IT IS AN EYESORE OVER THERE, AND IT'S NOT WORKING.
1:26:44PM SO IT'S COMING THIS WAY.
1:26:45PM AGAIN, THE STORMWATER INLETS, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM ALL
1:26:50PM INSPECTED.
1:26:52PM WHEN WE GET ANOTHER TRUCK.
1:26:53PM I CAN'T BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE ONE TV TRUCK, BUT WE'D LIKE TO
1:26:56PM HAVE THOSE WITH CAMERAS THROUGHOUT OUR WHOLE WATERSHED.
1:27:02PM AND TO DISTINGUISH WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE.
1:27:05PM I WOULD LIKE A LOT MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
1:27:13PM WE AS A CIVIC ASSOCIATION HAVE REACHED OUT TO YOU MANY, MANY
1:27:16PM TIMES.
1:27:17PM WE REACHED OUT TO THE MAYOR.
1:27:19PM ALSO REACHED OUT TO VIK.
1:27:22PM IT HAS TAKEN US TEN MONTHS TO GET A MEETING WITH VIK, WHICH
1:27:25PM IS COMING UP.
1:27:26PM AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE GET TO ACTUALLY
1:27:29PM TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED
1:27:33PM SO THAT THE NEIGHBORS CAN TRUST WHAT'S GOING ON.
1:27:37PM WE CAN TRUST EACH OTHER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT'S
1:27:40PM VERY IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION.
1:27:42PM BECAUSE THERE IS A SOLUTION NOT ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
1:27:47PM FLOODED BUT THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T FLOOD AND THE PEOPLE THAT
1:27:50PM MAY FLOOD IN THE FUTURE.
1:27:51PM SO WE'RE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
1:27:53PM WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE.
1:27:55PM AND WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO HELP FIND THE SOLUTION THAT
1:27:59PM WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE.
1:28:01PM SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY TODAY.
1:28:03PM THANK YOU AGAIN.
1:28:04PM I APPRECIATE IT.
1:28:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
1:28:06PM OUR CLOSER TODAY IS ANNELIESE MEIER.
1:28:09PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK WISHES TO SPEAK FIRST.
1:28:13PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN YOU.
1:28:15PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:28:16PM >> ANNELIESE MEIER.
1:28:17PM I AM NOT ON THE BOARD ANY LONGER, BUT WE HAVE STARTED A
1:28:21PM HISTORIC PARKLAND ESTATES PRESERVATION SOCIETY.
1:28:25PM I AM PART OF THAT.
1:28:26PM LET ME JUST SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES TO START WITH.
1:28:29PM I MIGHT GO OVER BY A MINUTE, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME.
1:28:32PM THIS IS MORRISON AVENUE RIGHT BY THE CROSSTOWN.
1:28:37PM THERE IS A BROKEN PIPE UNDERNEATH THERE.
1:28:39PM IT IS NOT A CSX PROBLEM.
1:28:43PM IT IS A CITY PROBLEM.
1:28:45PM HERE IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT PIPE.
1:28:50PM THIS IS AFTER IT WAS CLEANED BY CSX.
1:28:54PM NOW, THERE IS AN AREA ON THE CROSSTOWN NOBODY KNOWS WHO OWNS
1:28:57PM IT.
1:28:58PM NOBODY KNOWS WHO MAINTAINS IT, AND IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE
1:29:02PM BERNS, HYDE PARK, UP TO SWANN AVENUE AREA.
1:29:06PM THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
1:29:08PM IT TAKES GETTING ON THE PHONE A COUPLE OF TIMES FROM
1:29:10PM DEPARTMENT TO MAYBE THEA, MAYBE CSX.
1:29:13PM YOU CAN GET A HOLD OF THESE PEOPLE.
1:29:16PM THIS IS AFTER CLEANING.
1:29:17PM THAT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN HALFWAY THAT THAT PIPE CAN GO.
1:29:22PM OH, WE HAVE TONS OF PICTURES.
1:29:24PM AND, BY THE WAY, YOU'VE RECEIVED THESE PICTURES BEFORE FROM
1:29:27PM PAM CANNELLA AND OTHER PEOPLE.
1:29:29PM MANY, MANY TIMES.
1:29:30PM SO YOU HAVE THESE PICTURES.
1:29:32PM WHY ARE WE STALLING?
1:29:33PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
1:29:34PM HERE YOU GO.
1:29:35PM THERE'S SOME MORE TREES THERE.
1:29:37PM THERE'S ACTUALLY A TENT BACK HERE.
1:29:42PM HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE LIVING BACK THERE.
1:29:44PM THERE IS A DRAINAGE DITCH COVERED WITH DEBRIS AND DIRT TAKEN
1:29:51PM BEFORE THE HURRICANE.
1:29:51PM THAT'S MORE NORTH, CLOSER TO SWANN AND A CULVERT HERE
1:29:59PM COVERED UP.
01:30:03PM NOW GRANTED, THIS CAN HAPPEN -- THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN THROUGH
01:30:07PM -- THAT IS NOT A THREE-MONTH GROWTH.
01:30:10PM THAT IS A LONGER GROWTH, AND WE CAN DO BETTER.
01:30:13PM MY GROUP IS NOW WORKING WITH CONCORDIA PARK, BAYSHORE GARDENS,
01:30:22PM PALMA CEIA, NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, HOWARD AVENUE BUSINESS
01:30:26PM ALLIANCE, FOREST HILLS, BEACH PARK AND VIRGINIA PARK.
01:30:30PM THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME PERSONALLY,
01:30:33PM SOMEBODY FROM THEM HAVE CONTACTED ME PERSONALLY FROM MY POST
01:30:36PM ON NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR.
01:30:37PM BY THE WAY, MY POSTS HAVE NOW BEEN TAKEN REALLY FAR DOWN.
01:30:42PM BUT I AM GOING TO TELL YOU I HAD THREE POSTS ON THERE RIGHT
01:30:46PM AFTER THE HURRICANE REVIEWED BY 30,000 PEOPLE.
01:30:48PM I AM ASKING FOR DETAIL ON THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT FUNDS.
01:30:59PM I WANT TO KNOW WHERE EXACTLY THEY ARE GOING, THE TAXES.
01:31:02PM WHERE ARE THEY GOING?
01:31:03PM I WANT LINE ITEMS.
01:31:04PM NOT ONLY DO I WANT THIS, BUT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WANT THIS.
01:31:07PM THEY ELECTED ME TO COME HERE TODAY.
01:31:09PM WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT EQUIPMENT THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO
01:31:13PM MAINTAIN THE STORMWATER MAINTENANCE.
01:31:16PM BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH.
01:31:18PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT WENT.
01:31:23PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DONE WITH THEIR MAINTENANCE MONEY.
01:31:25PM I DO KNOW FOR YEARS -- AND I BROUGHT THIS TO YOU RIGHT AFTER
01:31:29PM THE HURRICANES, THE CULVERTS WE EXIST -- THE BOX CULVERTS WE
01:31:33PM HAVE TODAY ARE NOT BEING MAINTAINED
01:31:34PM THEY ASK FOR MONEY EVERY YEAR, IT IS RIGHT THIS ON THE WEB
01:31:38PM SITE UNLESS IT HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN, ASK FOR MONEY EVERY
01:31:42PM YEAR.
01:31:42PM THEY GOT 1,000 TWO YEARS AGO.
01:31:44PM NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE CULVERT.
01:31:46PM THOSE ARE THE EXISTING CULVERTS AROUND THE CITY.
01:31:49PM WHAT ARE THERE, 200 OF THEM, VIK?
01:31:53PM ANOTHER 200 DOWN HOWARD AVENUE AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW
01:31:56PM CAN WE DO THIS AND NOT MAINTAIN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE?
01:31:59PM WE CAN'T.
01:32:00PM WE WANT TO KNOW ALSO ALL THE CURRENT POSITIONS IN THE
01:32:06PM MAINTENANCE PEOPLE.
01:32:06PM WE WANT TO KNOW.
01:32:07PM YOU CAN PUT INITIALS.
01:32:09PM I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY POSITIONS ARE FILLED.
01:32:11PM I WANT TO KNOW OPEN POSITIONS.
01:32:13PM POSITIONS WE CAN'T SEEM TO HIRE FOR AND WHY.
01:32:15PM WE DO NOT BELIEVE THE DEPARTMENT IS EQUIPPED TO HANDLE OUR
01:32:21PM CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.
01:32:22PM WE HEARD THAT, BUT CLEARLY THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO
01:32:25PM THIS FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS.
01:32:26PM THAT IS A CRITICAL NUMBER, 14 YEARS.
01:32:29PM YOU CAN GO BACK.
01:32:30PM WE KEEP HEARING THE DEPARTMENT IS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND
01:32:34PM THIS IS NOT TRUE.
01:32:35PM COMMUNICATION IS BAD.
01:32:37PM WE WENT THROUGH MICHELLE ROBINSON GROUP AND I DON'T KNOW
01:32:42PM MAYBE THINGS GOT LOST.
01:32:43PM I DON'T KNOW.
01:32:44PM I AM STILL WORKING FOR THE BRISTOL AVENUE FILM THAT WAS
01:32:48PM PRESENTED AT THE -- AT THE BID OPENING.
01:32:50PM THAT HAS DISAPPEARED, AND I WAS THERE.
01:32:53PM I SAW IT.
01:32:53PM THE DEPARTMENT JUST TOLD YOU THEY ARE DOING MAINTENANCE AND
01:32:59PM THEY ARE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY.
01:33:00PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS DEPARTMENT IS MADE MORE
01:33:03PM ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE THIS GETS TO A STATE OF FEDERAL -- GETS
01:33:07PM TO THE STATE OR FEDERAL INQUIRY LEVEL.
01:33:10PM BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO.
01:33:12PM YOU KNOW IT.
01:33:13PM AND EVERYBODY UP THERE TALKS ABOUT BEING FISCALLY PRUDENT,
01:33:18PM BUT WE ONLY TALK ABOUT IT.
01:33:19PM I HEARD THAT TALK THE OTHER NIGHT WHEN I WAS HERE.
01:33:21PM AGAIN, I AM GOING TO TELL YOU, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING
01:33:25PM BEFORE THIS GETS TO A STATE OR FEDERAL INQUIRY.
01:33:27PM WE ARE PULLING PUBLIC RECORDS LEFT AND RIGHT, AND WE ARE
01:33:33PM GOING TO PULL MORE.
01:33:34PM THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE FOUND ALREADY THAT I AM NOT GOING
01:33:38PM TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU ONE THING, YOU WERE LIED
01:33:41PM TO.
01:33:41PM THE $10 MILLION OR WHATEVER IT IS, NOW IT IS CALLED A
01:33:46PM COMMITMENT FROM THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
01:33:48PM THAT PAPERWORK HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED.
01:33:50PM NO AGREEMENT THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY.
01:33:52PM WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THIS.
01:33:53PM THEIR BIDS CAME IN AT TWICE THEY THOUGHT.
01:33:56PM $300 MILLION.
01:33:57PM NOW IT IS $600 MILLION.
01:33:59PM THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO EXPAND THE CROSSTOWN RIGHT NOW.
01:34:03PM YOU CAN PET THAT $10 MILLION SUPPOSEDLY IN LEGAL.
01:34:05PM WHO KNOWS.
01:34:07PM BUT I HAVE THE E-MAILS FROM THEA DIRECTOR THAT MONEY IS NOT
01:34:12PM THERE YET.
01:34:12PM YOU WERE LED TO BELIEVE SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED, MAY
01:34:15PM NOT HAPPEN, SO WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE MONEY?
01:34:20PM I THINK THE MONEY SHOULD BE ON MAINTENANCE RIGHT NOW BEFORE
01:34:22PM WE START DIGGING UP OUR STREETS.
01:34:24PM AND I AM GOING TO TELL YOU ANOTHER THING.
01:34:26PM I AM A GIS PERSON.
01:34:28PM I USED TO DO MAPPING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
01:34:30PM THE GIS MAPS WE HAVE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THEM.
01:34:33PM ONE MAP HAS SOMETHING THE NEXT ONE DOESN'T.
01:34:36PM THE LAYER OF MAP IS NOT CORRECT.
01:34:38PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE STUDENTS DOING THEM OR PEOPLE WHO
01:34:42PM NEVER LIVED HERE BEFORE AND THAT IS A LOT.
01:34:44PM WE LOST A LOT OF OUR HISTORY WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHERE WE
01:34:47PM ARE.
01:34:47PM IT IS NOT MAPPED PROPERLY.
01:34:49PM WE HONESTLY -- WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS DOWN THERE A LOT.
01:34:52PM A YEAR AGO I ASKED FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO GO OUT AND CHECK
01:34:56PM THE FOUNTAIN PARK THAT MARYLAND JUST TALKED ABOUT.
01:34:59PM IT STILL HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED.
01:35:01PM I TOLD YOU SOIL BORING DONE.
01:35:04PM NO SOIL BORING DONE, NOT ON MY STREET.
01:35:09PM AND YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE OF A POOL.
01:35:11PM A HUGE POOL PUT BACK IN THE 1930s.
01:35:14PM IT WAS AMAZING.
01:35:14PM YOU GO SEE THE CONCRETE OUTLINE.
01:35:17PM THAT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT WAS THERE.
01:35:18PM THAT IS A MINOR PROBLEM OF THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
01:35:21PM THE PALMA CEIA PINES NEIGHBORHOOD ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO IT BE
01:35:25PM LOOKED AT.
01:35:26PM THERE ARE NO PERMITS FOR ANYTHING UNDER MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
01:35:31PM THE PERMIT FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING TO THE NORTH.
01:35:34PM THERE IS NO PERMIT THERE.
01:35:35PM IT HAVEN'T BEEN INSPECTED.
01:35:37PM THE DUCK PARK ON AUDUBON HAS GONE IN AND OUT OF PERMITTING.
01:35:43PM S.W.F.W.M.D. SENDS A LETTER TO THE DEPARTMENT, A REMINDER
01:35:46PM LETTER.
01:35:46PM THIS NEEDS TO BE PERMITTED.
01:35:48PM NOTHING HAPPENS.
01:35:49PM IT GOT REPERMITTED.
01:35:52PM I AM NOT SURE IF IT IS PERMITTED NOW.
01:35:54PM IT DID GET -- A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER IT GOT PERMITTED
01:35:58PM AGAIN.
01:35:58PM ALL OF THIS IS ON THE S.W.F.W.M.D. SITE.
01:36:00PM I HAVE BEEN GOING INTO DEMAND STAR.
01:36:02PM HE CAN SEE WHAT CONTRACTORS ARE ASKING.
01:36:04PM IT IS NOT A PRETTY SITUATION.
01:36:06PM A FEW OF YOU -- AND TWO ARE NOT HERE TODAY -- A FEW OF YOU
01:36:14PM ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR MAYOR.
01:36:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT ME.
01:36:17PM >> WELL, AT LEAST ONE OR TWO OF YOU WILL BE A FUTURE MAYOR.
01:36:22PM DO YOU WANT TO INHERIT THIS PROBLEM?
01:36:24PM DO YOU REALLY WANT TO INHERIT THIS PROBLEM?
01:36:28PM YOU ARE ABOUT READY TO GIVE AWAY $56 MILLION.
01:36:30PM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH FOR THE RIVERWALK.
01:36:32PM WHEN WE NEED TO DO THIS.
01:36:34PM THE RIVERWALK CAN BE -- YOU KNOW WHO CAN PAY FOR THAT?
01:36:37PM THE RELATED GROUP CAN PAY FOR IT
01:36:39PM AND SO CAN OTHER BUSINESSES PAY FOR IT.
01:36:41PM AND DON'T BE TELLING ME IT WILL BE USED AS TRANSPORTATION
01:36:44PM FOR POOR PEOPLE TO GO TO THEIR JOBS.
01:36:46PM NO, IT'S NOT.
01:36:47PM IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE MOST OF
01:36:50PM PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA DO NOT WORK IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
01:36:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
01:36:54PM >> THANK YOU.
01:36:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:36:57PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:36:58PM YES, MA'AM.
01:36:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:36:59PM SO IT'S CLEAR -- I THINK ONE THING NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
01:37:03PM I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A MONTHLY STATUS REPORT.
01:37:10PM IT JUST SEEMS VERY CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO DO A MONTHLY STATUS
01:37:14PM REPORT.
01:37:14PM I WILL WORK WITH A COUPLE OF FOLKS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT
01:37:17PM STATUS IS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I HAVE GOT A FEW
01:37:21PM THINGS IN MIND.
01:37:21PM I AM GOING TO TALK WITH VIK.
01:37:24PM I WILL TAKE SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THE PUBLIC HAS MADE TO
01:37:28PM PUT THAT TOGETHER, BUT IT WILL INCLUDE THINGS -- I'M GOING
01:37:33PM TO ASK FOR A REPORT -- AND I WILL TRY -- I WILL PUT THESE
01:37:37PM MOTIONS TOGETHER TODAY AND I WILL DO THEM TONIGHT.
01:37:40PM BUT I WANT TO DO PROBABLY A MONTHLY REPORT OF WHERE WE ARE,
01:37:43PM WHAT WE ARE DOING, THE TYPES OF CULVERTS WE CLEANED OUT.
01:37:48PM THAT SORT OF THING.
01:37:49PM I AGREE WITH A COUPLE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTER THAT WE NEED
01:37:52PM AN ACCOUNTING FOR THE FUNDING FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE
01:37:55PM STAFFING FOR ALL THE MAINTENANCE WORK, AND STORMWATER PONDS
01:38:00PM AND THEIR PERMITS.
01:38:01PM AGAIN, MOTIONS HE WILL MAKE LATER TODAY WHEN I FULLY HAVE
01:38:05PM ALL OF MY THOUGHTS TOGETHER.
01:38:06PM BUT, ALSO, HOPEFULLY SOME MONEY FOR THE FOUNTAIN PARK SOIL
01:38:11PM BORING.
01:38:11PM I THINK IF NOTHING ELSE, THAT WILL ANSWER THE COMMUNITY'S
01:38:15PM QUESTIONS.
01:38:15PM AND I THINK ANY MONEY SPENT IN THAT WILL BE -- WILL BE WELL
01:38:19PM SPENT.
01:38:19PM I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THIS EVENING FOR VIK'S ASK FOR
01:38:24PM $500,000.
01:38:25PM WE CAN'T MAKE THOSE MOTIONS RIGHT NOW.
01:38:28PM SO I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION LATER FOR FUNDING.
01:38:30PM BUT, AGAIN, I WILL WORK WITH VIK AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS THIS
01:38:34PM AFTERNOON TO COME UP WITH THOSE MOTIONS.
01:38:36PM BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAS MADE GOOD POINTS.
01:38:38PM AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS SORT OF A NELSON ISSUE.
01:38:41PM NOT REALLY THAT THINGS ARE -- I THINK THE COMMUNITY JUST --
01:38:45PM PART OF WHAT WILL MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER IS A CONTINUAL
01:38:49PM REMINDER OF WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WE ARE DOING, THE TYPES OF
01:38:52PM MOVEMENT -- OF MOVEMENT THAT IS COMING, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE
01:38:57PM ARE CLEARING.
01:38:57PM WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE.
01:38:59PM AND I THINK -- WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF PS -- OR PTS --
01:39:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: D?
01:39:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DISORDER -- A DOCTOR HAS TO DIAGNOSE YOU WITH
01:39:12PM THAT.
01:39:12PM POST TRAUMATIC STRESS IS REAL FOR ALMOST EVERY TAMPANO.
01:39:18PM I CRIED A BUNCH TODAY, BECAUSE JUST THE TRAUMA OF BRINGING
01:39:23PM IT BACK.
01:39:23PM I AM TEARING UP NOW.
01:39:25PM IT'S -- WE JUST NEED MORE CONSTANT REPORTING TO TALK ABOUT
01:39:29PM WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WE ARE DOING, MAKE PEOPLE FEEL MORE
01:39:32PM COMFORTABLE.
01:39:33PM WHAT THE -- WHERE THESE -- WHERE THESE GENERATORS ARE GOING
01:39:40PM TO GO.
01:39:40PM SOME PUMP STATIONS FLOODED.
01:39:42PM SO WE CAN'T HAVE A GENERATOR -- I KNOW -- I AM HEARING THE
01:39:45PM QUESTIONS THE COMMUNITY IS ALREADY MEALING ME WHICH I CAN'T
01:39:47PM SEE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MY PHONE UP HERE.
01:39:50PM BUT I KNOW PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL.
01:39:53PM AS WE MOVE FORWARD, MAYBE QUICK UPDATES ONCE A MONTH ON
01:39:56PM THAT.
01:39:56PM AND LIKE I SAID I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION LATER.
01:39:58PM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING TODAY.
01:40:02PM THESE ARE GOOD STORY.
01:40:03PM GOOD THINGS WE NEED TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT.
01:40:05PM IF I HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS MONTHLY, WE CAN CONTINUE TO
01:40:08PM TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE CAN'T FORGET IT.
01:40:10PM I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME TODAY.
01:40:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
01:41:49PM >> I SAW THE SAME INDIVIDUAL ON THE SAME TRUCK WITH THE SAME
01:41:53PM WEED EATER TO WITH THE DITCHES ALONG THE TRUCK AND BIGGER
01:41:56PM ONE TIME AND MUCH SMALLER NOW.
01:41:58PM THAT IS WHEN I GOT INVOLVED AND STARTED LOOKING AT THE
01:42:01PM PROCESS ONE WAS WAY LOW, THE SECOND AND THIRD AND THE FOURTH
01:42:08PM WAS THE ORIGINAL BIDDER.
01:42:09PM IT WENT ON THIS TIME, WE WORKED WITH THE INDIVIDUALS, AND
01:42:14PM GUESS WHAT HAPPENED, THE FIRST BIDDER THEN HAD ALL THE
01:42:17PM EQUIPMENT NEEDED FOR THE JOB.
01:42:18PM MAYBE HE PUT IT DOWN, BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE IT.
01:42:21PM THE SECOND AND THIRD BIDDER WAS REAL CLOSE.
01:42:24PM WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT CLOSE AND THEN TOO MUCH
01:42:27PM DISPARITY BETWEEN ONE AND FOUR, THERE IS A PROBLEM, POSSIBLY
01:42:31PM COLLUSION.
01:42:32PM I AM NOT SAYING THERE WAS, AMONG THE BIDDERS.
01:42:34PM BUT SO HAPPY THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY HAD THAT
01:42:38PM CONTRACT FOR JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER OF 2014, THE
01:42:42PM ORIGINAL BIDDER HAD IT COME IN AND CLEAN UP WHAT THE FIRST
01:42:47PM BIDDER DIDN'T DO.
01:42:47PM THAT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM -- I'M NOT SAYING IT IS.
01:42:51PM AT LEAST LET ME SAY THAT.
01:42:52PM I AM NOT SAYING IT IS, BUT MAYBE THEY WERE TOO FAR BEHIND
01:42:56PM BECAUSE THE RAINY SEASON.
01:42:58PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
01:42:59PM BUT THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, CERTIFIED AND PAID.
01:43:02PM DONE, CERTIFIED AND PAID.
01:43:04PM FOUR TIMES EQUAL ONE YEAR.
01:43:05PM WHETHER IT IS OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
01:43:07PM BUT I AM GOING TO ASK FOR COUNCIL'S PERMISSION FOR US TO
01:43:13PM RECEIVE THE LAST TWO YEARS OF THE BID PROCESS, WHO DID THE
01:43:16PM JOB?
01:43:18PM DID THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT?
01:43:19PM AND WAS THE JOB DONE PROPERLY?
01:43:21PM AND SOMEONE HAS TO OKAY IT AT THE END OF THAT QUARTER.
01:43:23PM THE LAST TWO YEARS REPORT TO COME IN TO FIND OUT WHERE WE
01:43:30PM WERE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING.
01:43:31PM I AM NOT SAYING SOMETHING IS WRONG, BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY
01:43:35PM EVERYONE'S MIND THAT MAYBE THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG AND FIND
01:43:39PM SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
01:43:40PM I APPRECIATE THAT PART.
01:43:42PM THESE THINGS ARE DONE AN A REGULAR BASIS AND I AM SURE THEY
01:43:44PM HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO CHECK OUT BECAUSE
01:43:49PM IF NOT NOBODY WOULD GET PAID.
01:43:51PM BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO OKAY THAT QUARTERLY PAYMENT.
01:43:53PM THAT I KNOW FOR A FACT.
01:43:54PM I AM SORRY, YOUNG LADY, ONE THING IN MY MIND THAT I WANTED
01:43:59PM TO DISCUSS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.
01:44:00PM BUT RIGHT NOW MY MIND IS FULL OF SO MANY THINGS THAT CAME UP
01:44:03PM TODAY THAT I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU BECAUSE OF
01:44:06PM SO MANY THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
01:44:07PM YOU BROUGHT UP THE POINT, AND I FORGOT WHAT THAT POINT IS, I
01:44:12PM WILL BE VERY FRANK WITH YOU, AMONG THE OTHER THINGS THAT I
01:44:15PM HAVE IN MY MIND AND IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT YOU LOOK AT THINGS
01:44:18PM -- LITTLE THINGS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING IF YOU LOOK AT THEM BY
01:44:21PM THEMSELVES.
01:44:22PM YOU GET TEN LITTLE THINGS AND EQUAL THE SUMS OF THOSE DIGITS
01:44:26PM IT CAUSES ONE HELL OF A BIG PROBLEM.
01:44:28PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID.
01:44:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS.
01:44:33PM I AM NOT HERE TO BLAME ANYONE IN THE CITY.
01:44:36PM I'M HERE TO FIX WHAT EVERYONE COULDN'T SEE.
01:44:40PM AND EVEN THE WEATHERMAN SAID IT IS COMING STRAIGHT AT US AND
01:44:44PM TURNED -- THANK GOD IT DID.
01:44:46PM IF IT DIDN'T, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, BECAUSE THE WATER
01:44:49PM COMING IN WOULD HAVE BEEN ATROCIOUS.
01:44:50PM YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE IT, BUT DURING THE GRECO
01:44:54PM ADMINISTRATION, HE STUDIED IT.
01:44:57PM I WAS IN THE OFFICE OF JAMIE -- JAMIE PALERMO
01:45:03PM AND DICK GRECO AND THEY TALKED OF THE SOUTH END OF THE TOWN.
01:45:07PM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND CAN'T DO ANYTHING BUT PUMP THE WATER
01:45:10PM 25, 30 MILES.
01:45:11PM WATER DOESN'T GO UP STREAM BY ITSELF.
01:45:13PM YOU NEED ELECTRICITY.
01:45:15PM BUY AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF LAND AND BUY A RESERVOIR TO PUT
01:45:19PM THE WATER IN.
01:45:19PM THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN FIX THE FLOODING PROBLEM AT THAT TIME.
01:45:23PM I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION, THE GATHERING, THE DETAILS
01:45:26PM WHERE I DIDN'T SEE, AND I AM SURE IT IS SO EXPENSIVE THEY
01:45:30PM COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
01:45:30PM THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE WANTING TO DO.
01:45:33PM GRECO ADMINISTRATION WANTED TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY PUMP THE
01:45:37PM WATER.
01:45:37PM IT WAS IN THE BILLIONS BACK IN THE '90s.
01:45:41PM YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT IS TODAY.
01:45:42PM WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO FIX IT, WE WILL TRY.
01:45:46PM AND WORK WITH THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
01:45:49PM AND I AM NOT AGAINST ANYONE IN THAT DEPARTMENT FOR A FIRING
01:45:52PM OR ANYTHING ELSE.
01:45:53PM I NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
01:45:55PM I AM NOT GOING TO SAY I AM GOING TO CURE THE PROBLEM.
01:45:57PM JUST LIKE GOING TO A MEDICAL OFFICE.
01:46:01PM THEY DON'T OPERATE UNTIL THEY FIND OUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH
01:46:03PM YOU.
01:46:04PM THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
01:46:05PM MAKE SURE WHATEVER THE CAUSE IS THAT CAUSED THIS IS
01:46:09PM ERADICATED.
01:46:10PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY THOUGH.
01:46:13PM >> THANK YOU.
01:46:14PM >> THANK YOU.
01:46:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:46:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND
01:46:20PM SHARING THEIR STORIES.
01:46:21PM I WANT TO SAY FOR THE PUBLIC BEHIND EVERY PERSON MO SPOKE
01:46:24PM TODAY, THERE ARE HUNDREDS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE LIKED TO
01:46:27PM HAVE SPOKEN TODAY.
01:46:29PM MANY ARE WORKING.
01:46:31PM THE GREAT THING ARE THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT FLOODED READY ALL
01:46:34PM COORDINATING RIGHT NOW.
01:46:35PM IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT COORDINATING CONSTANT T.H.A.N.,
01:46:39PM THE CITY WIDE COORDINATION.
01:46:41PM PART OF WHAT THEY ARE COORDINATING BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IN
01:46:45PM PARKLAND ESTATES.
01:46:45PM CONFLICT IN PARKLAND ESTATES THAT NOBODY SEEN ANYWHERE ELSE.
01:46:49PM IT WAS UNNECESSARY AND SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
01:46:51PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE COLLABORATE, BECAUSE WE ALL
01:46:54PM HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEMS.
01:46:56PM WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THE MAINTENANCE THAT HAS BEEN
01:46:59PM DONE.
01:46:59PM IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED BACK EVEN IN THE LAST
01:47:03PM ADMINISTRATION SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE KIND OF FLOODING
01:47:05PM WE HAD.
01:47:05PM BUT WE HAVE $65 MILLION IN THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT WHICH WE
01:47:09PM KNOW FROM MANY SOURCES IS NOT GOING TO WORK.
01:47:11PM AND GOING TO PROVIDE NO PROTECTION TO PARKLAND ESTATES OR
01:47:15PM PALMA CEIA PINES FOR FOUR YEARS.
01:47:17PM WHY WOULD WE ACCEPT THAT WHEN WE DON'T NEED TO.
01:47:20PM ALSO PROBABLY $56 MILLION OF INTEREST ON TOP OF IT.
01:47:23PM $10 MILLION.
01:47:32PM WE WERE TOLD IN THE MEETING THAT THE HOWARD AVENUE.
01:47:34PM THAT THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY WAS CONTRIBUTING $11 MILLION.
01:47:38PM WE KNOW THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS THAT THEA HAS NOT APPROVED
01:47:42PM $11 MILLION AND MAY NOT EVEN ANY TIME SOON.
01:47:44PM SO ON THAT BASIS, I WAS ONE OF THE DISSENTERS WHO VOTED
01:47:49PM AGAINST THAT PROJECT.
01:47:50PM ON THAT BASIS -- ON THAT BASIS ALONE, DESPITE ALL THE OTHER
01:47:54PM OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE THAT SHOWN THAT THE PROJECT DOESN'T
01:47:57PM WORK, SOMEBODY ON THE PREVAILING SIDE THAT VOTED FOR THIS
01:48:00PM PROJECT SHOULD MAKE A MOTION IN THE UPCOMING PART OF THE
01:48:04PM MEETINGS TO RECONSIDER THAT MOTION TO GET RID OF THAT
01:48:07PM PROJECT.
01:48:07PM AND GO BACK AND DO A REAL ANALYSIS.
01:48:09PM WHY WAS THERE POLITICS IN PARKLAND ESTATES?
01:48:16PM PARKLAND ESTATES -- PARKLAND ESTATES NEIGHBORS HAVE DONE
01:48:21PM PUBLIC RECORDS NOW AND WE KNOW WHY.
01:48:22PM THE REASON WHY THERE WAS CONFLICT STAFF MEMBERS AND THE
01:48:26PM MAYOR'S THAT CAUSE CONFLICT IN THE CRA AND OTHER PLACES
01:48:33PM CAUSED CONFLICT BY PITTING NEIGHBORS AGAINST EACH OTHER.
01:48:37PM UNCONSCIONABLE.
01:48:38PM THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE IT.
01:48:39PM WE HAVE PUBLIC RECORDS TO PROVE IT.
01:48:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD HAS PUBLIC RECORDS.
01:48:43PM WE CAN NOT DO THAT ANYMORE.
01:48:46PM WE WANT TO SOLVES THE CONFLICTS, WE NEED TO END THE
01:48:49PM CONFLICTS CREATED BY HER STAFF.
01:48:51PM RIVERWALK ANOTHER ISSUE THAT BECAME CONTENTIOUS AND A LOT OF
01:48:55PM JUSTIFICATION.
01:48:56PM THERE IS A NEW ADMINISTRATION.
01:48:57PM LET'S ASK THEM FOR MONEY FOR STORMWATER DAMAGES INSTEAD OF
01:49:01PM AN AMENITY FOR A DEVELOPER.
01:49:03PM THE LAST THING FOR -- ON THE STORMWATER IS TO LET PEOPLE IN
01:49:08PM THE YOU CAN WILL I CAN KNOW WE MOVED THE STRATEGY PLAN
01:49:12PM UPDATES AND THE BIGGER DISCUSSIONS TO MAY 2.
01:49:15PM SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
01:49:17PM IT IS A LONG WAY AWAY, BUT THE ENGINEERS ARE MOVING AND
01:49:20PM WORKING ON IT.
01:49:21PM WE HAD AN EXCELLENT UPDATE BY VIK TODAY.
01:49:25PM BUT THE ENGINEERS THAT HE MENTIONED WILL BE PRESENTING AND
01:49:27PM WILL BE GIVING US AN EXTENSIVE UPDATE SO I HOPE ANYONE
01:49:31PM INTERESTED TO COME AND COORDINATE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD
01:49:34PM ASSOCIATION.
01:49:34PM LAST THING I WANT TO ASK YOU ALL -- WE ONLY HAVE FOUR PEOPLE
01:49:37PM HERE.
01:49:37PM BUT TONIGHT MY SON IS GETTING AN AWARD AND I HAVE TO BE GONE
01:49:41PM FROM 6 TO 7.
01:49:42PM I WANT TO VOTE FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
01:49:44PM I WOULD LIKE TO COME HERE FROM 5 TO 5:30 TO VOTE FOR THE
01:49:48PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
01:49:48PM IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, WHETHER YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST IT, I
01:49:52PM THINK THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I HOPE WE CAN MOVE
01:49:55PM FAST BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON THAT AND HAVE TIME FOR
01:49:58PM MY SON'S THING.
01:49:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO ONE SHOULD EVER APOLOGIZE FOR PUTTING
01:50:02PM FAMILY FIRST.
01:50:03PM WE UNDERSTAND.
01:50:04PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
01:50:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST A SECOND.
01:50:08PM I WAS ALSO GOING TO -- THAT I HAVE -- I REALLY WANT TO GO TO
01:50:12PM NELSON AGUIRRE'S WAKE THAT STARTS AT 6:00.
01:50:16PM I WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TOMORROW INSTEAD OF TODAY.
01:50:19PM A FRIEND OF MINE THAT PASSED AWAY FROM MANY YEARS.
01:50:21PM A GREAT GUY.
01:50:22PM A GREAT FAMILY.
01:50:23PM SO I AM SORRY I CAN'T ATTEND, BUT I WILL SERVE AND BE HERE.
01:50:28PM THAT IS FINE WITH ME.
01:50:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
01:50:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION.
01:50:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:50:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE ADJOURNED AND BACK AT 5:01 P.M.
01:50:39PM WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.
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