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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:03:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY
9:03:44AM COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
9:03:45AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR THE
9:03:47AM INVOCATION.
9:03:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:03:52AM WE HAVE PASTOR ERICA ALLEN THIS MORNING.
9:03:54AM SHE IS ONE OF MY PASTORS OF ONE OF THE CHURCHES I GO TO AT
9:03:58AM HORIZON CHURCH IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:03:59AM SHE AND HER HUSBAND ARE THE TWO PASTORS.
9:04:01AM WE ALL KNOW HER BECAUSE SHE'S SPOKEN MANY TIMES TO US
9:04:04AM BEFORE.
9:04:05AM WITH THAT, EVERYBODY, PLEASE RISE AND STAY FOR THE PLEDGE OF
9:04:09AM ALLEGIANCE.
9:04:15AM >> DO WE PRAY FIRST?
9:04:17AM LET US PRAY.
9:04:18AM GOD OF GOODNESS AND MERCY, GOD OF JUSTICE AND PURPOSE, GOD
9:04:22AM OF ALL LIVING THINGS, WE COME BEFORE YOU AT THE START OF
9:04:27AM THIS MEETING AND GIVE THANKS FOR OUR CITY.

9:04:29AM WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY WORKERS WHO ARE WORKING ALL OVER
9:04:33AM THE CITY TO KEEP THINGS RUNNING.
9:04:35AM WE THANK YOU FOR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO WERE SHOWING UP FOR
9:04:38AM THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF ALL.
9:04:40AM FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION PEOPLE SERVING YOUNG AND OLD
9:04:45AM PEOPLE IN OUR CITY TODAY, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING
9:04:49AM DIVISION, FOR THE CITIZENS WHO ARE TEACHING IN SCHOOLS, FOR
9:04:52AM THOSE LEARNING AND FOR THOSE VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME TODAY.
9:04:56AM WE THANK YOU FOR RELIGIOUS AND FAITH-BASED INSTITUTIONS
9:05:00AM THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
9:05:01AM THANKS FOR THE LEADERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE COMMITTED
9:05:03AM TO JUSTICE AND SERVICE FOR ALL PEOPLE.
9:05:06AM FOR THOSE WHO SEE THE MARGINALIZED AND DESPERATE AMONG US
9:05:10AM AND SERVE THEM WITH ALL THE RESOURCES THEY HAVE.
9:05:12AM WE THANK YOU FOR ARTS PROGRAMS THAT ALLOW PEOPLE SPACE FOR
9:05:16AM CREATIVITY AND EXPRESSION.
9:05:19AM WE THANK YOU FOR NONPROFITS WHO ARE FILLING THE GAPS FOR SO
9:05:22AM MANY PEOPLE TODAY.
9:05:23AM PROVIDING FOOD AND DIAPERS, HOUSING AND ASSISTANCE AND
9:05:28AM WALKING ALONGSIDE THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US.
9:05:31AM WE ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS FOR THE WAYS WE HAVE OVERLOOKED
9:05:35AM THE HURTING AND THE POOR, FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS FOR THE TIMES
9:05:39AM WE'VE REMAINED SILENT WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE USED OUR VOICES TO
9:05:42AM ADVOCATE, FOR THE TIMES WE HAVE SPOKEN FOR HARM AND HURT AND
9:05:46AM FOR THE WAYS WE HAVE NOT SERVED ONE ANOTHER WELL.

9:05:48AM WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE THIS MEETING, THAT EVERY DECISION WILL
9:05:51AM REFLECT YOUR LOVE AND JUSTICE EVEN AMIDST THE POLITICAL
9:05:54AM CHAOS THAT ENVELOPES THIS NATION.
9:05:57AM USE THIS CITY AND THESE LEADERS TO DEMONSTRATE THE POWER OF
9:06:00AM DEMOCRACY AND THE GOODNESS OF AND POSSIBILITIES OF
9:06:03AM GOVERNMENT.
9:06:04AM GIVE THESE LEADERS THE FOCUS TO DO THEIR PART IN BUILDING A
9:06:08AM CITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN SAFELY AND PROUDLY BE HOME.
9:06:12AM I PRAY FOR EACH OF THESE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:06:15AM GIVE THEM EYES AND HEARTS FOR YOUR PEOPLE.
9:06:17AM GIVE THEM STRENGTH FOR SELFLESS SERVICE.
9:06:19AM GIVE THEM COURAGE TO DO THE RIGHT THING ALWAYS.
9:06:22AM GIVE THEM WISDOM.
9:06:24AM SURROUND THEM WITH A PASSION FOR JUSTICE.
9:06:26AM AND NOW, GOD, WE ASK YOUR BLESSING ON EVERY PERSON ATTENDING
9:06:31AM THIS MEETING, FOR THOSE WHO WILL SPEAK AND THOSE WHO WILL
9:06:34AM WATCH, FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE DECISIONS AND
9:06:36AM FOR EVERY PERSON IN EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY OF THIS CITY.
9:06:40AM MAKE US SHINE LIKE A LIGHT.
9:06:42AM OFFERING BRIGHT HOPE AND LIFE-CHANGING MERCY.
9:06:45AM AMEN.
9:06:46AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:07:02AM I HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON THAT SHE WILL BE
9:07:06AM PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY TODAY.

9:07:08AM IS SHE ON, MADAM CLERK?
9:07:13AM >>THE CLERK: I DO NOT SEE HER ON.
9:07:15AM NO.
9:07:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAKE A NOTE THAT UNTIL SHE CHECKS IN AND
9:07:21AM JOINS US THAT SHE'S NOT PRESENT.
9:07:23AM >>THE CLERK: CORRECT.
9:07:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:07:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:07:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:07:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:07:28AM >> HENDERSON?
9:07:28AM VIERA?
9:07:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:07:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:07:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:07:31AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:07:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES
9:07:35AM FROM JANUARY 2023 -- 2025 AND JANUARY 28, 2025.
9:07:40AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:07:41AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:07:42AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:07:43AM AYE.
9:07:43AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:07:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THAT IS A TOTAL OF,
9:07:47AM WHAT, THREE EVENINGS -- EXCUSE ME, THREE SEPARATE MINUTES.

9:07:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, 23rd, 28, AND THE 30th.
9:07:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE WORKSHOP AND THE EVENING ON THE 30th.
9:08:02AM >> FIVE.
9:08:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:08:09AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:09AM WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF HOUSE-KEEPING.
9:08:15AM ITEM NUMBER 2, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS TO
9:08:19AM FEBRUARY 20, 2025.
9:08:20AM CAN I GET A MOTION?
9:08:24AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:08:26AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:08:27AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:28AM ITEM 3, F.D.O.T. DOES NOT HAVE AN UPDATE THIS QUARTER.
9:08:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT I DO.
9:08:34AM SO I'M GOING TO UPDATE.
9:08:35AM THERE IS A TON OF STUFF GOING ON.
9:08:38AM THEY JUST HAD A PUBLIC MEETING, SO I DO WANT TO TELL THE
9:08:42AM COMMUNITY WHAT THEY ARE DOING, EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO.
9:08:45AM .
9:08:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK WILL BE PRESENTING
9:08:49AM ON ITEM 3.
9:08:50AM THERE IS A TEN-MINUTE UPDATE.
9:08:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WON'T BE THAT LONG.
9:08:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 4, WE HAVE A REQUEST TO
9:08:56AM WITHDRAW THIS ITEM.

9:08:58AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:09:00AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:09:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:02AM AYE.
9:09:02AM ITEM NUMBER 22, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS ASKED THAT THIS
9:09:08AM ITEM BE PULLED AND BE HEARD FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS IN
9:09:13AM CONJUNCTION WITH ITEM 67.
9:09:16AM WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT.
9:09:24AM ITEM NUMBER 39 IS A REQUEST FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN THAT THIS
9:09:30AM BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA -- REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
9:09:34AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:09:36AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:09:38AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:39AM AYE.
9:09:39AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:09:40AM ALL RIGHT.
9:09:41AM ITEM NUMBER 56, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE ON THIS
9:09:49AM ITEM TO A DATE THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO
9:09:54AM MAKE THAT OFFICIAL MOTION AT 1:30.
9:09:57AM I JUST WANT TO GIVE THE HEADS-UP ON THAT.
9:09:59AM ITEM NUMBER 57, THERE IS A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW THAT.
9:10:03AM THAT'S ALSO AN E-MAIL THAT WAS RECEIVED.
9:10:05AM WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30 TO DO THAT.
9:10:09AM AND THEN WE HAVE STAFF REPORTS.
9:10:13AM WE HAVE NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE PER THE CHIEF OF STAFF.

9:10:16AM ITEM NUMBER 60, DO WE NEED SOMEBODY IN PERSON?
9:10:19AM YES.
9:10:21AM OKAY.
9:10:21AM ITEM NUMBER 61?
9:10:25AM NO.
9:10:29AM ITEM 62?
9:10:30AM NO.
9:10:31AM ITEM 63?
9:10:33AM NO.
9:10:35AM ITEM 64?
9:10:36AM THERE IS A YES FOR 64.
9:10:42AM ITEM 65?
9:10:44AM DID YOU SAY YES ON 65?
9:10:49AM IT'S WITH 66.
9:10:51AM IT'S A WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM REPAIR PROJECT.
9:10:56AM NO.
9:10:57AM NO ON 65 AND 66 BECAUSE THEY ARE CONNECTED.
9:11:00AM ITEM 67?
9:11:02AM YES.
9:11:04AM YES ON 68.
9:11:07AM AND WE HAVE CHIEF TRIPP WILL BE APPEARING IN PERSON.
9:11:12AM 69, THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:11:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:11:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM 69 FROM
9:11:19AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

9:11:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:11:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:21AM AYE.
9:11:22AM ITEM NUMBER 70, THERE IS A BRIEF WRITTEN RESPONSE.
9:11:27AM MICHELLE VAN LOAN IT CAME FROM.
9:11:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: TALKING ABOUT 70?
9:11:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF E-MAIL ABOUT IT, SO I'M
9:11:43AM KIND OF CURIOUS.
9:11:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE CURIOUS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION
9:11:47AM ABOUT THIS?
9:11:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE ASKED US TO
9:11:51AM DELAY IT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN PUBLIC
9:11:54AM COMMENT TODAY, SO FOLKS ASK ME TO JUST LISTEN TO PUBLIC
9:11:57AM COMMENT BEFORE MAKING ANY MOTION.
9:11:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:11:59AM WE'LL LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.
9:12:01AM NO OFFICIAL ACTION.
9:12:02AM WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE, AGAIN, I'VE
9:12:06AM BEEN RECEIVING E-MAILS TOO.
9:12:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, THIS WAS FORMER
9:12:10AM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES' ITEM.
9:12:13AM HE MADE THIS MOTION 2022, SO THREE YEARS AGO.
9:12:18AM WE'VE JUST BEEN CARRYING IT FORWARD.
9:12:20AM I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT TO RESOLUTION.
9:12:22AM BY THE WAY, HE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY LAST NIGHT AND CAN'T

9:12:24AM BE HERE THIS MORNING.
9:12:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL HAVE TO SAY YES ON 70. 71 AND 72
9:12:35AM ARE YESES.
9:12:36AM ITEM 73 IS A YES.
9:12:40AM ITEM 74, NO.
9:12:45AM IT'S JUST THE CALENDAR.
9:12:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE SOME CONVERSATION TO
9:12:49AM HAVE ABOUT THAT.
9:12:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75.
9:12:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75 THROUGH 79.
9:12:59AM ANY OBJECTION?
9:12:59AM THOSE ARE ALL WRITTEN REPORTS.
9:13:01AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:13:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75
9:13:09AM THROUGH 79.
9:13:10AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:11AM AYE.
9:13:11AM ALL RIGHT.
9:13:14AM THAT CONCLUDES THE HOUSEKEEPING.
9:13:16AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM?
9:13:18AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:13:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:13:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:22AM AYE.
9:13:23AM OUR FIRST CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY IS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH

9:13:26AM OUR POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:13:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:13:33AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:13:34AM WE HAVE HERE FOR DETECTIVE RAY FIGUEROA AND I BELIEVE
9:13:40AM ASSISTANT CHIEF OWEN WILL BE PRESENTING.
9:13:41AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:13:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:13:44AM WE'RE HERE TO RECOGNIZE DETECTIVE RAY FIGUEROA.
9:13:47AM TEN-YEAR VETERAN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND RECENTLY
9:13:49AM PROMOTED TO DETECTIVE BACK IN AUGUST OF 2024.
9:13:53AM FEW INCIDENTS HE'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH SINCE PROMOTED TO
9:13:55AM DETECTIVE, AUGUST 16, UNIDENTIFIED SUBJECT STRUCK THE VICTIM
9:13:58AM WITH A BLUNT OBJECT CAUSING SIGNIFICANT INJURIES.
9:14:01AM DUE TO THE INJURIES, THE VICTIM WAS UNABLE TO COOPERATE WITH
9:14:04AM THE INVESTIGATION.
9:14:04AM DETECTIVE FIGUEROA IN HIS SECOND DAY AS DETECTIVE RESPONDED
9:14:09AM TO THE INVESTIGATION.
9:14:10AM HE COLLECTED VIDEOS FROM THE AREA AND POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED
9:14:13AM THE SUSPECT.
9:14:14AM DEFENDANT WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY TWO DAYS LATER WHERE THE
9:14:19AM DETECTIVE OBTAINED A CONFESSION TO THE CRIME.
9:14:21AM SEPTEMBER 19, 2024, THE SUBJECT ROBBED GROVE FINANCIAL BANK.
9:14:25AM DETECTIVE FIGUEROA RESPONDED AS ONLY ASSIGNED DETECTIVE.
9:14:30AM THE DEFENDANT WAS LOCATED WITHIN TWO HOURS.
9:14:32AM THE DETECTIVE AUTHORIZED A SEARCH WARRANT AND RECOVERED

9:14:35AM EVIDENCE OF THE ROBBERY.
9:14:36AM HE ALSO TAPED A CONFESSION IN THIS CASE.
9:14:39AM NOVEMBER 5, 2024, OFFICERS RESPONDED TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX
9:14:43AM WHERE THEY LOCATED A MALE SUFFERING FROM GUNSHOT WOUND.
9:14:46AM DETECTIVE FIGUEROA ASSUMED THE INVESTIGATION.
9:14:48AM VICTIM PROVIDED LIMITED INFORMATION AND COULD NOT PROVIDE
9:14:51AM ANY DEFINITIVE LEADS.
9:14:52AM DETECTIVE FIGUEROA WORKED THE CASE MORE THAN A WEEK
9:14:56AM CONDUCTING FOLLOW-UP INTERVIEWS.
9:14:58AM HE IDENTIFIED THE SUSPECT AND THE VEHICLE HE WAS DRIVING.
9:15:00AM INVESTIGATIVE MEANS, DEFENDANT WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY.
9:15:03AM DETECTIVE FIGUEROA AGAIN OBTAINED A CONFESSION AND ALSO GOT
9:15:06AM THE DEFENDANT TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF AS THE SHOOTER IN THE
9:15:09AM VIDEO.
9:15:10AM DECEMBER 8, 2024, OFFICERS RESPONDED TO WEST HILLSBOROUGH
9:15:13AM JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER WHERE A DELAYED MISSING PERSON
9:15:16AM REPORT HAD BEEN MADE.
9:15:17AM IT WAS DETERMINED THAT A JUVENILE HAD ESCAPED THE FACILITY.
9:15:20AM WEEK PRIOR, THE MISSING INMATE WAS CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE
9:15:23AM MURDER.
9:15:23AM DETECTIVE FIGUEROA LED THE INVESTIGATION WHICH DEVELOPED AN
9:15:26AM ADDRESS WHERE THE JUVENILE WAS BELIEVED TO BE HIDING.
9:15:29AM DETECTIVES RESPONDED AND WERE ABLE TO RETAKE THAT DEFENDANT
9:15:31AM INTO CUSTODY.
9:15:33AM FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF HIS PROMOTION, DETECTIVE FIGUEROA HAS

9:15:36AM BEEN ASSIGNED COMPLEX INVESTIGATIONS INVOLVING VIOLENT
9:15:39AM OFFENDERS.
9:15:40AM HE INVESTIGATED THREE OF THE CASES RESULTING IN POST MIRANDA
9:15:44AM CONFESSIONS.
9:15:44AM FOR HIS EFFORTS, WE RECOGNIZE HIM AS TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
9:15:48AM POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:15:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU, WE HAVE SOME
9:15:56AM FOLKS HERE WHO WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME GESTURES OF
9:15:58AM APPRECIATION.
9:16:00AM >> BRIAN BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
9:16:04AM DETECTIVE, GREAT JOB.
9:16:05AM PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PLAQUE.
9:16:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:16:15AM BEHALF OF THE STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS, I'M MARY
9:16:18AM DILLON.
9:16:19AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:16:21AM ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ, PLEASE ACCEPT THE TICKETS TO
9:16:23AM UPCOMING PERFORMANCE AND ENJOY YOURSELF.
9:16:27AM THANK YOU.
9:16:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:16:32AM HI.
9:16:33AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:16:34AM MY NAME IS LORI OSBORNE.
9:16:36AM I'M WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.

9:16:37AM ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
9:16:41AM SERVICE.
9:16:42AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUICK THINKING AND YOUR SKILL SET.
9:16:45AM WE ARE A SAFER COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF YOU.
9:16:47AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:16:47AM WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO COME AND ATTEND AN
9:16:51AM ORCHESTRA PERFORMANCE THIS SEASON.
9:16:53AM I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU.
9:16:54AM THANK YOU.
9:16:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:17:00AM GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
9:17:01AM GOOD MORNING, DETECTIVE.
9:17:02AM BRIAN FORD WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
9:17:04AM YOUR STORY IS REMARKABLE.
9:17:06AM WHAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY DO IN HAD SACRIFICE FOR THE CITY.
9:17:11AM WE HAVE A TRADITION AT ONE BUCCANEER PLACE.
9:17:13AM ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
9:17:16AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE
9:17:19AM ORGANIZATION TO PRESENT YOU YOUR CUSTOM GAME BALL.
9:17:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, SACRIFICE, AND ALL
9:17:25AM THAT YOU DO.
9:17:26AM THANK YOU.
9:17:26AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:30AM >> ALWAYS HATE GOING AFTER THE GAME BALL.
9:17:32AM [ LAUGHTER ]

9:17:32AM I'M MARY LOU BAILEY HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF ZOO
9:17:36AM TAMPA.
9:17:36AM >> MARK HANEY WITH ZOO TAMPA.
9:17:39AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
9:17:40AM WAY TO HIT IT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.
9:17:42AM REALLY AWESOME.
9:17:44AM APPARENTLY YOU HAVE A KNACK FOR GETTING THOSE CONFESSIONS
9:17:46AM WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT SAVES US MORE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND
9:17:49AM GETTING THOSE GUYS LOCKED AWAY.
9:17:51AM REALLY IMPRESSIVE STORY.
9:17:52AM THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO SERVES.
9:17:54AM YOU ARE ALL MY HEROES.
9:17:55AM INTRODUCE MY TEENAGE DAUGHTERS TO THE OLD SERIES "THE
9:17:58AM ROOKIE," AND THEY ARE HOOKED.
9:18:00AM WE WATCHED THREE EPISODES LAST NIGHT.
9:18:03AM THEY WILL FOLLOW MY FOOTSTEPS IN LOVING THE POLICE AND
9:18:05AM HONORING.
9:18:07AM YOUR GIFT FROM THE ZOO.
9:18:08AM >> WE HAVE A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP FOR A YEAR TO THE ZOO.
9:18:13AM A COUPLE OF ZOO TCHOTCHKES.
9:18:17AM AFRICAN PAINTED DOG.
9:18:18AM IT'S APPROPRIATE TODAY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
9:18:21AM PREDATORS IN ALL OF AFRICA.
9:18:22AM THEY GET THEIR PREY ABOUT 80% OF THE TIME.
9:18:25AM WHEREAS LIONS GET THE PREY 20% OF THE TIME AND YOU CAN SEE

9:18:29AM THEM AT THE ZOO.
9:18:30AM >> ENJOY IT IN GOOD HEALTH.
9:18:31AM THANK YOU.
9:18:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:18:36AM JILL WITECKI WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
9:18:39AM THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY MAKE
9:18:42AM FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:18:43AM ON BEHALF OF THE THEATER, THIS IS AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR
9:18:46AM YOU AND YOUR WIFE.
9:18:47AM WE HOPE YOU'LL COME SEE US AT TAMPA'S MAJESTIC MOVIE PALACE.
9:18:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:18:56AM I'M GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
9:18:59AM 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
9:19:01AM WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT WITH YOU THE GIFT CARD TO THANK YOU
9:19:03AM FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO TAMPA.
9:19:04AM PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF WITH THE FAMILY AT COLUMBIA, ULELE,
9:19:08AM CATCH A FLAMINGO SHOW.
9:19:11AM THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:19:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:19:14AM BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:19:15AM CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING THIS AWARD.
9:19:18AM I TRULY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
9:19:20AM ALL YOU GUYS THAT PUT THE UNIFORM ON EVERY SINGLE DAY TO
9:19:23AM MAKE THESE SACRIFICES FOR ALL OF US TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE
9:19:27AM FOR ALL OF US.

9:19:28AM ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD, I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU A
9:19:31AM HANDWRITTEN NOTE FROM JENNIFER CURRY WITH A GIFT CARD AND
9:19:38AM MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE AND OTHER GOODIES IN
9:19:41AM THE BAG.
9:19:41AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:19:42AM TRULY APPRECIATE YOU.
9:19:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:19:47AM MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
9:19:50AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:19:51AM THANKS FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
9:19:52AM SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU PART OF SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND TAKING
9:19:55AM CARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:19:57AM WE DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE IT IS A SAFER PLACE BECAUSE OF
9:19:59AM PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
9:20:00AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP'S AND STEPP'S TOWING, GIFT CARD FOR
9:20:04AM DINNER.
9:20:05AM HAVE A NIGHT OUT ON US.
9:20:06AM ENJOY THE TIME OFF AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:20:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, DETECTIVE FIGUEROA.
9:20:13AM MARYBETH WILLIAMS HERE ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA
9:20:16AM RIVERWALK.
9:20:17AM WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT WITH YOU A PERSONALIZED PAVER ON
9:20:19AM THE TAMPA RIVERWALK.
9:20:20AM IT WILL BE LOCATED IN MacDILL PARK.
9:20:23AM IT WILL SAY DETECTIVE RAY FIGUEROA, TPD OFFICER OF THE MONTH

9:20:26AM FOR FEBRUARY 2025.
9:20:27AM IN ADDITION, SOME OF OUR CORPORATE MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO
9:20:31AM PRESENT YOU WITH THE FOLLOWING, TWO ONE-HOUR COMPLEMENTARY
9:20:34AM PASSES TO RIVERWALK, TWO COMPLEMENTARY ADMISSIONS TO THE
9:20:38AM LOST PEARL, TWO DINNER FOR TWO ABOARD THE YACHT STARSHIP.
9:20:43AM $200 GIFT CERTIFICATE TO SPLITSVILLE AND TWO COMPLEMENTARY
9:20:47AM ALL-DAY PASSES TO PIRATE WATER TAXI.
9:20:49AM WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:20:54AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:58AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
9:20:59AM THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:21:01AM STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
9:21:05AM FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO HONOR YOU AND DON'T LOSE THESE.
9:21:09AM ON BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, WE'RE PROVIDING WITH
9:21:14AM YOU A $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO,
9:21:19AM PROVIDING YOU WITH A HUNDRED DOLLARS, GO OVER THERE ON
9:21:22AM HARBOUR ISLAND.
9:21:24AM BEHALF OF MEAT MARKET OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, HUNDRED
9:21:29AM DOLLARS.
9:21:32AM HUNDRED DOLLARS, IF YOU LIKE GREEK FOOD.
9:21:34AM THE RESTAURANT GROUP, CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, $50.
9:21:40AM AND BELLABRAVA, $50.
9:21:42AM THE CHIEF IS NOT HERE, SO WE CAN'T TAKE YOUR GIFT
9:21:48AM CERTIFICATES, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO BRING LETTERS WITH YOU.
9:21:52AM CONGRATULATIONS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

9:21:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: DETECTIVE, ON BEHALF OF A REALLY GRATEFUL CITY
9:22:03AM OF TAMPA, WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK AND YOUR
9:22:05AM SACRIFICE AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR US.
9:22:10AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:17AM >> WROTE SOMETHING OUT.
9:22:18AM BEAR WITH ME.
9:22:20AM MORNING.
9:22:22AM FIRST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE WITHOUT GOD THIS WOULDN'T BE
9:22:27AM POSSIBLE FOR THAT.
9:22:28AM THANKS TO MY WIFE AND FAMILY FOR UNWAVERING SUPPORT.
9:22:31AM LONG NIGHTS AND HOURS AWAY FROM HOME.
9:22:33AM THIS REALLY MAKES IT WORTH IT.
9:22:35AM I APPRECIATE IT KINDLY.
9:22:37AM COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION OF THIS
9:22:38AM AWARD.
9:22:39AM THANK YOU FOR BELIEVING IN THE DEPARTMENT, OUR STAFF AND
9:22:41AM AIDING US IN MAKING THE CITY SAFER AND THE BEST CITY IN THE
9:22:44AM NATION.
9:22:45AM TO OUR STAFF, THANKS FOR BELIEVING IN ME.
9:22:47AM THANK YOU FOR THE PROMOTION AND RECOGNIZING ME WITH THIS
9:22:49AM AWARD.
9:22:50AM THIS ISN'T A ONE-MAN SHOW.
9:22:52AM ALL THESE CASES WERE SOLVED WITH TEAMWORK WITH OUR AGENCIES.
9:22:57AM THE FBI HELPED OUT WITH THE CASES AS WELL WITH THE BANK

9:23:00AM ROBBERY.
9:23:00AM DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM AS WELL, THE GUYS
9:23:03AM THAT HELPED OUT WITH CASES.
9:23:05AM LASTLY, OUR STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SUSIE LOPEZ, HER STAFF
9:23:09AM WAS INCREDIBLE AND VERY PROACTIVE WITH OUR INVESTIGATIONS
9:23:12AM AND ENSURING THAT PROSECUTION IN THE CASES ARE FOLLOWED AND
9:23:16AM PROSECUTED.
9:23:17AM THANKS FOR THAT AND MAKING OUR CITY SAFE.
9:23:22AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:23:24AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
9:23:33AM THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU MAKE EVERY TIME YOU PUT
9:23:35AM ON THE UNIFORM AND TO YOUR FAMILY, THE SACRIFICE THEY MAKE.
9:23:38AM THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
9:23:40AM THIS IS CERTAINLY WELL DESERVED.
9:23:42AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:23:43AM THANK YOU.
9:23:43AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT AS THE ROOM CLEARS
9:23:54AM OUT.
9:23:54AM ITEM 3, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE?
9:24:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:24:55AM THERE IS AN OVERHEAD, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IN
9:24:59AM THIS LITTLE AREA.
9:25:03AM FOLKS WHO DRIVE THIS AREA AND LIVE IN THIS AREA, IT'S VERY

9:25:07AM IMPORTANT.
9:25:08AM SHE'S GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE WOLF CAM.
9:25:13AM SORRY.
9:25:14AM YOU HAVE TO USE THE INFLECTION NOW.
9:25:15AM IT'S NO LONGER AN ELMO.
9:25:17AM IT'S A WOLF.
9:25:18AM THEY'LL GET IT TO FOCUS AT SOME POINT.
9:25:22AM THIS BASICALLY IS, RIGHT NOW A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION IS GOING
9:25:27AM ON IN THE MALFUNCTION JUNCTION AREA.
9:25:31AM ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WAS PUTTING FENCING UNDER SOME OF THE
9:25:34AM OVERPASSES.
9:25:35AM THAT'S GOING ON.
9:25:36AM RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS SEVERAL RFQs OUT FOR I
9:25:43AM BELIEVE SOME MURAL PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO GO ON TO THE
9:25:47AM NOW FLAT WALLS.
9:25:49AM TAMPA HEIGHTS HAS BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE REPAVING OF
9:25:52AM TAMPA STREET BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE STORMWATER.
9:25:56AM IT WAS A STORMWATER THAT GOT A FEDERAL GRANT FOR STORMWATER.
9:25:59AM UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO COST OVERRUNS, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO
9:26:04AM END UP BEING ONLY DRAINAGE REPAIR, REPLACING DAMAGED PIPES
9:26:08AM AND INLETS BUT THEY STILL WILL BE GETTING SOMETHING WITH
9:26:13AM THAT.
9:26:13AM THE BIKEWAYS OF BOTH CENTRAL AVENUE AND OLA AVENUE HAVE
9:26:17AM BEGUN.
9:26:17AM THEY ARE WORKING ON CENTRAL AVENUE FIRST.

9:26:20AM BOTH PROJECTS SHOULD BE DONE BY 2026 -- OR THE END OF 2026
9:26:24AM WHICH SEEMS LIKE A REALLY LONG TIME, BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT
9:26:28AM THE LIGHTS ARE GOING IN AT MLK AND SLIGH AND COLUMBUS, ABOUT
9:26:37AM THREE-QUARTERS OF THE WAY THROUGH.
9:26:39AM SO MAYBE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR.
9:26:43AM HELP ME IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING.
9:26:48AM I THINK THAT'S KIND OF IT.
9:26:50AM TAMPA STREET AND FLORIDA AVENUE ARE BOTH GOING TO BE
9:26:53AM REPAVED.
9:26:54AM THAT IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF HEARTACHE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
9:26:58AM TRYING TO GET DOWNTOWN DURING RUSH HOUR.
9:27:00AM I JUST WANT TO PREPARE PEOPLE FOR THAT.
9:27:03AM I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BEGIN NEXT YEAR OR THE END OF THIS
9:27:08AM YORE.
9:27:09AM THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
9:27:10AM I JUST FELT LIKE IF THEY WEREN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, I
9:27:13AM NEEDED TO.
9:27:14AM THAT'S IT.
9:27:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:27:16AM BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. SHELBY -- COUNCIL MEMBER
9:27:26AM HENDERSON IS ONLINE.
9:27:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, PURSUANT TO
9:27:29AM COUNCIL'S RULES, CAN COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION TO PERMIT HER TO
9:27:33AM PARTICIPATE REMOTELY?
9:27:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.

9:27:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:27:37AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:27:37AM AYE.
9:27:38AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:27:39AM ALL RIGHT.
9:27:40AM AND MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT TO READ THE RULES FOR PUBLIC
9:27:43AM COMMENT BEFORE I BEGIN?
9:27:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU.
9:27:46AM IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
9:27:49AM COMMENT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND
9:27:52AM PLACE IT IN THE BOX IS OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
9:27:55AM ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
9:27:58AM EACH PERSON SPEAKING AND SUBMITTING A CARD WOULD BE
9:28:00AM RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO APPROACH AND SPEAK.
9:28:03AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
9:28:05AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
9:28:07AM NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
9:28:09AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT IS
9:28:12AM DESIGNATED ON THE AGENDA AS A PUBLIC HEARING, THERE IS A
9:28:14AM SIGN-IN SHEET, PLEASE USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET.
9:28:17AM AGAIN, IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
9:28:20AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
9:28:22AM THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
9:28:25AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:28:29AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.

9:28:33AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO TO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING PERSONAL
9:28:37AM ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBERS
9:28:41AM OF THE PUBLIC.
9:28:42AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:28:45AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
9:28:49AM FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:28:52AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH COUNCIL RULES MAY BE RULED
9:28:55AM OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
9:28:58AM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
9:29:00AM MEETING.
9:29:01AM NOW, FINALLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD BE REMINDED TO REFRAIN
9:29:06AM FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND MEMBERS OF
9:29:09AM THE PUBLIC, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT
9:29:12AM TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH THE SPEAKERS DURING
9:29:16AM GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:29:17AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:29:20AM THANK YOU.
9:29:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:29:23AM ALL RIGHT.
9:29:25AM SO FAR I HAVE 27 SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:29:30AM TWO OF THEM ARE VIRTUAL.
9:29:32AM I'LL TAKE THE TWO VIRTUAL ONES FIRST THAT ARE ONLINE.
9:29:36AM THE FIRST IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH FOLLOWED BY MR. LAWRENCE
9:29:39AM PREMAK.
9:29:41AM MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE ON, GO AHEAD, YOU HAVE THREE

9:29:44AM MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL TAKE MR. PREMAK NEXT.
9:29:47AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:29:48AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:29:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:29:50AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:29:52AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
9:29:54AM I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT OUR UPCOMING MEETING ON JANUARY
9:29:58AM THE 24th AT 7 P.M.
9:30:00AM IT'S GOING TO BE ONLINE.
9:30:02AM THE TITLE IS JUSTIFICATION OF THE SAFETY ECONOMIC
9:30:07AM DEVELOPMENT CONNECTING THE DOTS, A NATIONAL DISCUSSION ON
9:30:10AM WHAT WORKS.
9:30:11AM WE WILL BE DEALING WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM HIGH-CRIME
9:30:15AM NEIGHBORHOODS FROM AROUND THE NATION WHO WILL SHARE THEIR
9:30:20AM STRATEGY.
9:30:20AM THIS MEETING PRESENTS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LEARN
9:30:24AM FROM THOSE SUCCESS STORIES AND DISCUSS HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT
9:30:29AM OUR INITIATIVE AS WELL.
9:30:31AM THE TOPICS THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IS UPDATES ON MAJOR
9:30:35AM PROJECTS IN WEST TAMPA, THE TECHNOLOGY, JOB CREATION CENTER.
9:30:41AM THIS IS A STRATEGY INITIATIVE TO FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY
9:30:47AM USING TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENTS, OF COURSE, AI.
9:30:50AM THE NEXT IS HOME-BASED BUSINESS AND THEN OUR COMMUNITY
9:30:54AM HEALTH AND ECONOMIC INITIATIVE.
9:30:57AM THIS DISCUSSION IS ON HOW TO IMPROVE HEALTH OUTCOMES AND

9:31:01AM ECONOMIC CONDITIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:31:03AM NEXT IS LOOKING AT HOW DO WE EXPLORE ECONOMIC-BASED
9:31:08AM SOLUTIONS TO CRIME?
9:31:11AM THE WEST TAMPA CULTURE CENTER, THIS IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT
9:31:14AM THE PRESENTATION OF ESTABLISHMENT OF A COASTAL CENTER TO
9:31:19AM ADDRESS THE HISTORY OF WEST TAMPA WITH A FOCUS ON THE BLACK
9:31:23AM COMMUNITY.
9:31:24AM AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF BLACK COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ERASED.
9:31:28AM NEXT IS A TOPIC ON WHAT DO WE DO AND HOW DO WE BRING HOME
9:31:32AM THE YELLOW JACKETS LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM?
9:31:34AM HOW DO WE BRING BACK HOME AND HELP THEM WITH FUNDING AS
9:31:37AM WELL?
9:31:37AM FINALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT AVENUES FOR
9:31:40AM FUNDING TO FUND ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.
9:31:43AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
9:31:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:47AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:31:50AM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR.
9:32:14AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW, SIR?
9:32:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:32:17AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, GO AHEAD.
9:32:19AM >> YES, SIR.
9:32:19AM I'M LARRY PRE-MACK, PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD
9:32:22AM ASSOCIATION WHICH CONSISTS OF 657 RESIDENCES ON THE SOUTHERN
9:32:27AM HALF OF HARBOUR ISLAND.

9:32:29AM AT THE JANUARY 23rd COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL HEARD OUR
9:32:32AM REASONS FOR MORE STUDY OF THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN
9:32:35AM FRONT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
9:32:38AM AFTER VIK MADE HIS PRESENTATION, THE CONSENSUS IN THE 28
9:32:41AM MINUTE DISCUSSION IS THE COUNCIL AGREED THIS WAS NOT A
9:32:44AM VIABLE SOLUTION.
9:32:46AM HOWEVER, NO MOTIONS WERE MADE.
9:32:48AM WE E-MAILED CITY ATTORNEY ANDREA ZELMAN IN REGARD TO WHO
9:32:51AM ACTUALLY HAD THE AUTHORITY TO INSTALL THE $500,000 WORTH OF
9:32:56AM TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
9:32:57AM MS. ZELMAN RESPONDED THAT THE HEAD OF THE MOBILITY
9:32:59AM DEPARTMENT, VIK BHIDE HAD THE AUTHORITY AND DESPITE THE
9:33:02AM SURVEY OF 4,000 HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENTS, A TRAFFIC
9:33:06AM ENGINEER'S ALTERNATIVE SUGGESTIONS AND THE CITY COUNCIL, THE
9:33:09AM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WOULD BE INSTALLING THE LIGHT.
9:33:12AM WE SENT A BROADCAST TO RESIDENTS INFORMING THEM OF THIS AND
9:33:17AM ASKED THEM TO WRITE TO THE MAYOR TO REVERSE THIS DECISION.
9:33:21AM THE MAYOR'S WRITTEN RESPONSES TO RESIDENTS WERE INCREDIBLE
9:33:24AM ON SO MANY LEVELS.
9:33:26AM SUBSEQUENTLY, I WATCHED WITH GREAT INTEREST THE ASTOUNDING
9:33:29AM TESTIMONY OF THE TWO BRAVE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES OF
9:33:33AM HARASSMENT AND DISCRIMINATION.
9:33:35AM THEIR STATEMENTS WERE COMPELLING.
9:33:37AM HOWEVER, MAYOR CASTOR RESPONDED TO OUR RESIDENTS ON THE
9:33:40AM TRAFFIC LIGHTS STATING THAT SHE WAS SADDENED BY PERSONAL

9:33:43AM ATTACKS ON MR. BHIDE AND SAID, AND I QUOTE, FRANKLY, IT IS
9:33:47AM THE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY THAT
9:33:52AM HAVE CAUSED SEVERAL GOOD PEOPLE TO LEAVE PUBLIC SERVICE,
9:33:55AM UNQUOTE.
9:33:56AM THIS IS A DIRECT ATTACK ON CITY COUNCIL AND OUR RESIDENTS TO
9:34:00AM THE PRESENTATION BY STEPHANIE POYNOR SHOWING GREAT
9:34:04AM INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE LEFT THE CITY, A NUMBER OF WHICH I
9:34:08AM DEALT WITH PERSONALLY, LIKE ERICA MOODY WHO WAS A SUPERSTAR.
9:34:11AM WHEN THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED THIS INVESTIGATING WHY THESE
9:34:14AM PEOPLE LEFT, NO COUNCIL MEMBER TRIED TO LAY THE BLAME AT THE
9:34:17AM MAYOR'S FEET, YET THE MAYOR IS QUICK TO POINT OUT TO
9:34:20AM RESIDENTS THAT IT IS THE FULL COUNCIL AND RESIDENTS
9:34:24AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MASS EXODUS.
9:34:26AM ALSO DURING THAT MEETING, CHIEF BENNETT BASICALLY STATED
9:34:28AM THAT THERE WERE NO COMPLETE EXIT INTERVIEWS DONE, IF AT ALL.
9:34:33AM IF THERE WERE NO EXIT INTERVIEWS AND CHIEF BENNETT IS
9:34:36AM STATING THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INTERVIEWS HIMSELF, THEN WHY
9:34:39AM IS THE MAYOR THROWING THE WHOLE COUNCIL UNDER THE BUS
9:34:42AM STATING THAT YOU ARE THE PROBLEM?
9:34:44AM THE CONCLUSION HAS BEEN REACHED BEFORE THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN
9:34:48AM STUDIED.
9:34:49AM UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE
9:34:51AM ADMINISTRATION'S OBSTINANCE TO EVERY OPPOSING VIEW.
9:34:56AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S ASSESSMENT, INVESTIGATE
9:35:02AM AND FIND ANY WAY YOU CAN TO STOP THESE.

9:35:05AM AS I SAID TO MOST OF YOU PERSONALLY, I DO NOT KNOW WHY YOU
9:35:08AM DO WHAT YOU DO, BUT I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU DO.
9:35:11AM THANK YOU.
9:35:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:35:14AM ALL RIGHT.
9:35:14AM WE'LL GO TO THE IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
9:35:19AM BEVERLY KIENY IS THE FIRST SPEAKER.
9:35:23AM FOLLOWED BY APRIL SELF.
9:35:28AM I HOPE I'M SAYING IT CORRECTLY.
9:35:30AM MR. VERN GARRETT SENIOR.
9:35:33AM YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
9:35:34AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:35:35AM IT WILL ACTIVATE IN JUST A SECOND.
9:35:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:35:45AM MY NAME IS BEVERLY KIENY.
9:35:48AM I LIVE IN FOREST HILLS IN NORTH TAMPA.
9:35:50AM I'M HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE WORKING.
9:35:53AM THEY ARE HARD AT WORK AND REALLY CAN'T TAKE TIME OFF TO COME
9:35:57AM SPEAK TO YOU SO I WANT TO BE THEIR ADVOCATE TODAY AS THE
9:35:59AM FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT, WE'VE BEEN IN OVERDRIVE
9:36:03AM HELPING OTHERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THE MORNING OF
9:36:06AM OCTOBER 10.
9:36:08AM WE WOKE UP AND THAT'S WHEN THE FLOODING BEGAN, AFTER
9:36:11AM HURRICANE MILTON AND IN THE DAYS THAT FOLLOWED, WATERS CAME
9:36:15AM UP TO THE POINT THAT PEOPLE WERE BEING BOAT RESCUED IN OUR

9:36:19AM NO FLOOD ZONE.
9:36:21AM I ASK YOU ON CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE HELP SUPPORT MY
9:36:25AM NEIGHBORS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
9:36:26AM IT'S BEEN OVER 125 DAYS SINCE THAT MORNING.
9:36:30AM I CAN TELL YOU INTIMATELY THE SITUATION OF MANY PEOPLE WHO
9:36:34AM LOST EVERYTHING.
9:36:35AM OF THE 60 HOMES THAT I COUNT THAT WERE FLOODED NEAR ME, I
9:36:38AM KEEP IN TOUCH WITH A TEXT GROUP OF ABOUT 34.
9:36:41AM THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO SINCE MOST OF THEM ARE UNABLE TO LIVE
9:36:45AM IN THEIR HOUSES.
9:36:47AM YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE.
9:36:50AM IF YOU HAVEN'T VISITED YET, THOSE HOMES WERE FLOODED WITH
9:36:53AM BOTH STORMWATER AND SEWAGE.
9:36:54AM BESIDES SHARING LEADS, I ENCOURAGE THEM NOT TO GIVE UP.
9:36:59AM THERE ARE SO MANY OBSTACLES TO RETURNING TO NORMALCY.
9:37:02AM I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE NOW.
9:37:04AM WE'VE PROVIDED FOOD, BLANKETS, THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED
9:37:10AM DAILY, A PLACE TO SIT.
9:37:12AM EVEN BROUGHT COATS AND SHOES FOR PEOPLE THAT NEEDED THEM.
9:37:17AM WHEN WE HAD THE COLD SNAP AROUND THE HOLIDAYS.
9:37:20AM THEIR NEED DIDN'T END WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
9:37:23AM THEY ARE STILL BROKEN.
9:37:25AM SO MOST RUN THROUGH ALL THEIR OWN RESOURCES.
9:37:27AM NOW THEY ARE IN A DEEP FINANCIAL HOLE.
9:37:30AM THEY ARE TRYING TO HOLD ON TO AND KEEP THAT GENERATIONAL

9:37:34AM HOUSE THAT THEY HAVE IN FOREST HILLS.
9:37:36AM SO EVERY BIT OF FINANCIAL RELIEF THAT THEY CAN GET, IT WILL
9:37:39AM HELP RESTORE THEM AND THEIR HOME AS WELL AS PRESERVE OUR
9:37:43AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:37:44AM THEIR STORIES, RIGHT WHEN I LOOK OUT MY OWN DOOR, I LIVE ON
9:37:48AM EDISON AVENUE AND I LIVE A BLOCK OFF NORTH BOULEVARD AND
9:37:53AM CLOSER TO THE EAST RIDGE PUMP.
9:37:55AM WHOLE STREETS WERE AFFECTED ON NORTH BOULEVARD AT 109th.
9:37:58AM THAT'S WHERE HAMNER AVENUE, OTIS AND THE HOUSES THAT
9:38:02AM SURROUND THE STORMWATER PONDS THERE ON NORTH BOULEVARD,
9:38:06AM NEWPORT CIRCLE AND CLIFF.
9:38:07AM THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING OF IT.
9:38:12AM CURIOSITY CREEK WHERE THE BACKUP GENERATOR AND THE PUMP DID
9:38:15AM NOT TURN ON, THERE ARE MORE FAMILIES AND RETIREES FLOODED BY
9:38:18AM THE PARK AND IT CONTINUES ALL THE WAY UP 113th AND OLA.
9:38:23AM PLEASE DRIVE BY, GUYS.
9:38:25AM YOU CAN SEE THE EMPTY HOUSES AND THE PODS IN THE DRIVEWAY IF
9:38:29AM THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN A CONSTRUCTION MODE.
9:38:30AM BUT AS YOU HEAR OF THE DAMAGE, IT'S REALLY WIDESPREAD IN OUR
9:38:35AM AREA.
9:38:35AM NUMBER ONE, WE WANT TO LET OUR COUNCILMEN, LUIS VIERA KNOW
9:38:41AM WE APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE MATTER.
9:38:45AM PRACTICALLY TO EVERYONE WHO WOULD LISTEN ABOUT WHAT OCCURRED
9:38:48AM IN NORTH TAMPA.
9:38:49AM YOU'VE BEEN IN PHENOMENAL IN COMMUNICATING WITH INDIVIDUALS.

9:38:52AM I REALLY ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL WHEN OUTSIDE GROUPS OF PEOPLE
9:38:58AM DISCOURAGED AND ANGRY AND YOU WERE ABLE TO STAY LATE AND
9:39:01AM HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAD TO SAY.
9:39:03AM COLLECTIVE BIG THANK YOU GOES TO TAMPA MAYOR JANE CASTOR FOR
9:39:06AM PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, THIS IMPORTANT RECOVERY PACKAGE THAT
9:39:09AM WE HOPE CITY COUNCIL WILL UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORT TODAY.
9:39:12AM TOP OF MIND IS WHAT HAPPENS DIFFERENTLY AS HURRICANE SEASON
9:39:15AM BEGINS AGAIN IN A FEW MONTHS.
9:39:18AM THE COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS LATER IS REALLY WHAT
9:39:21AM WE ALL WANT TO AGREE ON.
9:39:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:39:27AM >> THANK YOU.
9:39:28AM I HAVE SOME LETTERS THAT I WOULD LIKE --
9:39:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GIVE THEM TO THE ATTORNEY.
9:39:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:39:33AM APRIL IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
9:39:35AM APRIL SELF.
9:39:36AM AND THEN MR. VERN GARRETT SENIOR AND MS. TAMMY JACKSON.
9:39:45AM YES, MA'AM.
9:39:45AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:39:46AM >> MY NAME IS APRIL SELF.
9:39:48AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:39:49AM MY HUSBAND IS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH ME TODAY AS HE HAS TO WORK
9:39:53AM TO BE ABLE TO HELP US REBUILD OUR HOME.
9:39:55AM WE LIVE IN FOREST HILLS OFF OF NORTH BOULEVARD.

9:39:58AM WE WERE ONE OF THE HOMES THAT WERE ONE OF MANY HOMES
9:40:01AM AFFECTED BY THE WATER FLOOD.
9:40:02AM WE ONLY -- WE FLOODED FROM THE INSIDE, OUTSIDE, EVERYWHERE.
9:40:08AM WE TOOK IN ALMOST THREE FEET OF WATER.
9:40:10AM WHY?
9:40:10AM THE PUMPS DIDN'T WORK.
9:40:12AM THE GENERATORS DIDN'T KICK ON OR THERE WERE NO GENERATORS.
9:40:15AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO ASSESS THAT GOING FORWARD?
9:40:17AM ARE WE GOING TO BE IN A FLOOD ZONE GOING FORWARD?
9:40:20AM MY MOTHER LIVES IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
9:40:23AM SHE CAME AND STAYED WITH US THINKING SHE WOULD BE SAFE IN
9:40:26AM OUR OWN HOME VERSUS HER HOME THAT IS A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
9:40:29AM SHE ENDED UP LOSING HER CAR.
9:40:31AM WE HAD TO FORCE HER TO EVACUATE.
9:40:33AM SO THE STRESS, I DIDN'T PROTECT MY OWN MOTHER STAYING AT OUR
9:40:36AM HOUSE BECAUSE THE CITY FAILED US.
9:40:39AM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
9:40:40AM WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT THIS IN THE FUTURE?
9:40:43AM OUR NEIGHBORS, THERE'S ONE NEIGHBOR RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET
9:40:47AM FROM US, HER HOME IS SITTING THERE VACANT BECAUSE SHE CAN'T
9:40:50AM GET ANY ANSWERS FROM INSURANCE, FEMA OR ANYBODY.
9:40:53AM WE'RE FIGHTING WITH FEMA TO HELP US PAY OUR RENT ON TOP OF
9:40:56AM OUR MORTGAGE THAT WE'RE PAYING MONTHLY, ALL OF OUR UTILITY
9:40:59AM BILLS.
9:41:00AM INSURANCE TOLD US BASICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE,

9:41:02AM THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO FOR YOU.
9:41:04AM HOW IS THE CITY OF TAMPA GOING TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BEING
9:41:09AM LEFT FOR MANY OTHER PEOPLE, MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
9:41:12AM ARE SITTING UNDERWATER STILL?
9:41:14AM OUR FRONT YARD IS LIKE WALKING THROUGH A SWAMP.
9:41:18AM IT'S JUST MUDDY FROM EVERYTHING.
9:41:21AM WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S HOW THE TRUCKS HAD TO PICK UP ALL THE
9:41:24AM DEBRIS AND MOVE THE DEBRIS FROM NOT HARMING OTHER PEOPLE.
9:41:27AM NOW THE FRONT YARDS ARE RUINED.
9:41:30AM WE'RE NOT EVEN BEING TOLD WE CAN GO BACK INTO OUR HOUSE
9:41:33AM UNTIL THE END OF MARCH.
9:41:36AM WE'RE GOING BROKE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEM
9:41:39AM THAT THE CITY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR PUMPS WEREN'T
9:41:42AM WORKING PROPERLY WITH EVERYTHING.
9:41:44AM WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT ALL THIS IN THE FUTURE?
9:41:47AM HOW DO WE PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS?
9:41:49AM IS THE MAYOR GOING TO HONESTLY HELP WITH THE RELIEF PACKAGE?
9:41:53AM WILL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TWO WORKING FAMILIES, WILL THEY BE
9:41:57AM ABLE TO QUALIFY TO GET ANY ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE?
9:42:00AM HOW DOES THIS WORK?
9:42:02AM WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANSWERS.
9:42:04AM THE BUILDING PERMITS, YES, WE CAN GET THEM FOR FREE, BUT
9:42:07AM IT'S STILL TAKING WEEKS TO GET THEM APPROVED THROUGH THE
9:42:11AM SYSTEM.
9:42:11AM SO WE'RE BEING DELAYED ON GETTING HOMES REBUILT.

9:42:14AM WE WANT TO GO HOME.
9:42:15AM WE WANT TO BE NORMAL.
9:42:16AM WE WANT TO BE LIKE YOU.
9:42:18AM YOU SIT IN YOUR HOME EVERY NIGHT.
9:42:20AM WE DON'T.
9:42:23AM WE SIT IN A HOTEL OR AirBnB WONDERING WHEN WE GET TO BE
9:42:28AM LIKE YOU AND GO HOME.
9:42:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:42:30AM MR. VERN GARRETT SENIOR.
9:42:32AM TAMMY JACKSON.
9:42:34AM HOPE DEMETRIA JACKSON.
9:42:39AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:42:40AM VERN GARRETT SENIOR.
9:42:41AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM.
9:42:47AM I'M HERE WITH A BUNCH OF SUPPORTERS ABOUT THE RENAMING OF
9:42:51AM THE PARK.
9:42:52AM A LOT OF US GREW UP IN THE JACKSON HEIGHTS AREA OFF 34th.
9:42:58AM MY MOM'S HOUSE BUILT IN 1971.
9:43:00AM I GREW UP IN THE HOUSE.
9:43:01AM I HAD TWO SISTERS.
9:43:02AM WE ALL HAD KIDS, WHICH IS MY MOM GRANDKIDS.
9:43:06AM EVERYBODY GO TO THE PARK, WHICH IS KNOWN AS FAIR OAKS.
9:43:11AM WE ALL ARE IN FAVOR OF NAMING IT AFTER MR. ARTIS GAMBRELL.
9:43:17AM ALL OF US BASICALLY GREW UP UNDER ARTIS GAMBRELL.
9:43:21AM IF WE DIDN'T SHOW SUPPORT, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHICH WAY IT WOULD

9:43:26AM GO OR -- THEN IT BECOMES ANOTHER NAME THAT NONE OF US
9:43:32AM BASICALLY KNOW WHO IT IS GOING TO BE.
9:43:33AM SUPPORT, HEY, IF RENAMED, ARTIS GAMBRELL.
9:43:41AM THANK YOU FOR REDOING THE PARK.
9:43:43AM IT'S LONG OVERDUE, BUT WE ACCEPT IT AND WE BELIEVE IT WILL
9:43:47AM BE A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
9:43:48AM STATE OF THE ART IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD, SO WE ACCEPT THAT.
9:43:51AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO RENAME IT, ALL OF US ARE IN FAVOR OF
9:43:54AM NAMING MR. ARTIS GAMBRELL.
9:43:57AM HE WAS A GOOD GUY.
9:43:58AM HE REARED ME THE RIGHT WAY.
9:44:00AM HE REARED A LOT OF US THE RIGHT WAY.
9:44:04AM LIKE I SAY, WE'RE ALL HERE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
9:44:07AM IF IT'S GOING TO BE DONE, WE HOPE YOU MAKE THE RIGHT
9:44:10AM DECISION AND RENAME IT AFTER MR. GAMBRELL.
9:44:15AM IF YOU DON'T SEE THE SUPPORT BEHIND ME I MIGHT NEED TO GET
9:44:24AM MY GLASSES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
9:44:26AM OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WILL TALK AFTER ME, TALK ABOUT THEIR
9:44:30AM LIFE AT FAIR OAKS.
9:44:32AM LITTLE LEAGUE FOOTBALL AT FAIR OAKS.
9:44:34AM MY SON DIDN'T PLAY FOOTBALL BY MY NEPHEWS PLAYED.
9:44:44AM CHEER COACHES, FOOTBALL COACHES.
9:44:46AM FAIR OAKS IS WHAT WE KNOW.
9:44:48AM MR. GAMBRELL IS WHAT WE KNOW.
9:44:53AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT, PLEASE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND WE

9:44:57AM APPRECIATE THAT.
9:44:58AM I WON'T TAKE UP ALL YOUR TIME.
9:45:00AM WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT MR. GAMBRELL.
9:45:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:04AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:45:04AM TAMMY JACKSON.
9:45:13AM HOPE DEMETRIA JACKSON AND CHERYL YOUNG.
9:45:17AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
9:45:28AM >> MY NAME IS TAMMY JACKSON.
9:45:30AM MR. VERN PRETTY MUCH STATED EVERYTHING.
9:45:34AM I GREW UP THERE.
9:45:36AM MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN, AND ALL WE KNOW IS FAIR OAKS
9:45:41AM AS FAIR OAKS.
9:45:43AM SO WE WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE IF YOU ALL WOULD CONSIDER NAMING
9:45:46AM IT AFTER MR. ARTIS GAMBRELL, MY BROTHERS, EVERYONE.
9:45:50AM THANK YOU.
9:45:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:52AM HOPE JACKSON.
9:45:52AM FOLLOWED BY MS. SHERYL YOUNG AND MS. VALERIE BULLOCK.
9:45:59AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
9:46:00AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:46:02AM >> HOPE DEMETRIA JACKSON.
9:46:07AM GRANDDAUGHTER OF LATE EVANGELIST JACKSON AND FRIENDS.
9:46:14AM HE BASICALLY RAISED ME.
9:46:16AM FAIR OAKS IS ALL I KNOW.

9:46:19AM MY CHILDREN HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY SPORTS, GO TO THE
9:46:21AM PARK.
9:46:25AM I UNDERSTAND GENTRIFICATION IS GOING ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD,
9:46:28AM BUT PLEASE KEEP FAIR OAKS EITHER FAIR OAKS OR NAME IT AFTER
9:46:33AM MR. GAMBRELL.
9:46:35AM APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
9:46:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:46:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:46:37AM MS. CHERYL YOUNG.
9:46:39AM MS. VALERIE BULLOCK.
9:46:41AM MR. TYRONE WILLIAMS.
9:46:42AM IS CHERYL YOUNG HERE?
9:46:49AM >> PASSES.
9:46:50AM EVERYBODY SAID WHAT NEED TO SAY.
9:46:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VALERIE BULLOCK, TYRONE WILLIAMS, SHANDA
9:46:57AM WILLIAMS.
9:46:58AM >> VALERIE BULLOCK.
9:46:59AM I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
9:47:01AM I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN
9:47:04AM COLLEGE HILL PROJECTS WHO POURED INTO MY LIFE AND TRIED TO
9:47:10AM INSTILL VALUES IN ME TO MAKE ME A BETTER PERSON.
9:47:16AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, I KNOW WE PASSED ON THIS
9:47:20AM ONE TIME AND THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED FOR THE NEW HOUSING
9:47:25AM COMPLEX AND THE NEW INNOVATIVE LEARNING CENTER ON YALE AND
9:47:30AM COLUMBUS DRIVE.

9:47:32AM IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE PROJECT IS OR WHAT'S ON THE
9:47:35AM AGENDA, THE PEOPLE ARE BEING OVERLOOKED.
9:47:38AM NO ONE NEVER COMES OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE
9:47:44AM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH US.
9:47:46AM WE ARE BUILDING THIS.
9:47:48AM WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR INPUT ON THIS.
9:47:51AM WHEN I HIT THE STREETS, NOBODY EVER TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT
9:47:54AM THEY WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL AND GET TRAINING FOR CULINARY
9:47:58AM ARTS.
9:47:59AM THEY WANT INFRASTRUCTURE JOBS BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE
9:48:01AM MONEY IS AT AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET A JOB TO PAY MARKET
9:48:06AM VALUE RENT.
9:48:07AM CULINARY MIGHT DO IT FOR ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, BUT IT'S NOT
9:48:12AM GOING TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY.
9:48:13AM WE NEED TO BE BETTER STEWARDS WITH THE MONEY AND PUT THE
9:48:17AM MONEY WHERE IT WILL HELP THE MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST
9:48:22AM SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
9:48:23AM WE'RE GOING TO GET TRAINING OR ANOTHER JOB.
9:48:26AM WE DON'T NEED TRAINING.
9:48:28AM ON MY STREET, WE NEED PAYCHECKS.
9:48:31AM THAT IS WHAT WE NEED.
9:48:32AM WE NEED PAYCHECKS AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LIVE.
9:48:36AM THEY GOT SIX AND SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOMES OVER ON
9:48:41AM MY STREET OFF OF 34th AND 24th AVENUE.
9:48:44AM WE NEED A JOB WHERE WE CAN AFFORD THOSE HOMES.

9:48:48AM WE SHOULD NOT BE OUTPRICED OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE
9:48:53AM OF OUR ECONOMIC STATUS.
9:48:55AM SO IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP THE EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS,
9:49:01AM LET'S NOT DO STUFF SYMBOLICALLY.
9:49:03AM LET'S DO STUFF THAT WILL REALLY HELP THE PEOPLE.
9:49:07AM WE WANT THE SAME THING EVERYBODY ELSE WANT.
9:49:09AM WE WANT A GOOD-PAYING JOB, A CAREER, AND WE WANT A NICE
9:49:13AM HOUSE.
9:49:14AM WE DON'T HAVE TO UNPLUG THE REFRIGERATOR TO TURN THE HEAT
9:49:18AM ON.
9:49:18AM THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
9:49:19AM WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WANT.
9:49:22AM WHEN IT COMES TO EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS, WE NEED TO HAVE ENTRY
9:49:26AM LEVEL POSITION WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
9:49:29AM WHAT ABOUT THE CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.
9:49:31AM DON'T HAVE GOOD CREDIT.
9:49:32AM DON'T HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.
9:49:34AM OKAY, PLUMBING.
9:49:36AM ALL YOU NEED IS A NINTH GRADE EDUCATION FOR THAT.
9:49:39AM WE NEED TO STOP GETTING DISRESPECTED AND WHOEVER IS GETTING
9:49:43AM FUNDING, THEY NEED TO COME WALK THE STREETS AND GET
9:49:46AM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SEE WHAT WE WANT.
9:49:49AM DON'T FORCE NOTHING DOWN OUR THROAT.
9:49:51AM THAT IS DISRESPECT.
9:49:53AM THANK YOU.

9:49:54AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. TYRONE WILLIAMS.
9:50:01AM MS. SHANDA WILLIAMS AND CLARICE CRAWFORD, THEN BISHOP.
9:50:09AM TYRONE WILLIAMS.
9:50:11AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:50:11AM SHANDA WILLIAMS AND CLARICE CRAWFORD PASSED.
9:50:23AM >> I'M CLARENCE CRAWFORD.
9:50:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT THE NEXT TWO PASS.
9:50:27AM >> YES.
9:50:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:50:28AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:50:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.
9:50:30AM MY NAME IS CLARENCE CRAWFORD.
9:50:32AM I AM A RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA, BORN AND RAISED IN THE FAIR
9:50:40AM OAKS COMMUNITY.
9:50:41AM I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE FAIR OAKS REUNION COMMITTEE.
9:50:48AM LAST YEAR WE HOSTED OUR FIRST FAIR OAKS REUNION AT ROWLETT
9:50:55AM PARK WHICH WE HAD IN ATTENDANCE OVER 800 PEOPLE.
9:50:59AM NOW, ALL THIS RENAMING AND ALL THIS STUFF IS NEW TO ME SO
9:51:05AM I'M TRYING TO GET IN AND CATCH UP.
9:51:09AM BUT AS MR. GARRETT STATED EARLIER, WE ALL GREW UP IN THIS
9:51:16AM NEIGHBORHOOD, BORN AND RAISED.
9:51:19AM SOME OF OUR PARENTS HAVE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 75 YEARS.
9:51:23AM I STILL RESIDE IN MY PARENT'S HOUSE WHICH I OWNED FOR 31
9:51:29AM YEARS.

9:51:29AM MY HOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY MAYBE 600 FEET AWAY FROM THE PARK.
9:51:34AM NOW, THE RENAMING OF FAIR OAKS PARK, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
9:51:40AM BUT LIKE YOU SAID, ALL WE KNOW IS FAIR OAKS.
9:51:44AM WE PLAYED THERE WHEN IT WAS JUST DIRT.
9:51:50AM BUT IF BY CHANCE IT HAS TO BE RENAMED, WE WILL ACCEPT ARTIS
9:51:58AM GAMBRELL.
9:52:00AM LIKE SOME SAID, WE ALL COME UP UNDERNEATH HIM.
9:52:03AM WHEN WE WAS GROWING UP, HE WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IN OUR
9:52:06AM COMMUNITY TO WHERE BACK THEN THE NEIGHBORS COULD WORK THE
9:52:14AM NEIGHBORS' KIDS.
9:52:15AM THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
9:52:16AM THERE WAS A LOT OF TIMES WE WERE GROWING UP THAT WE WERE
9:52:19AM CHASTISED BY HIM.
9:52:21AM WE GOT A WHOOPIN' AT THE PARK.
9:52:23AM BY THE TIME HE WENT AND TELL MY PARENTS, WE GOT ANOTHER
9:52:28AM WHIPPIN'.
9:52:29AM THAT'S A LOT OF HISTORY THERE.
9:52:33AM A LOT OF, LOT OF HISTORY THERE.
9:52:35AM THE NAME FAIR OAKS, AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF US ARE WEARING
9:52:42AM OUR SHIRTS, BUT IF YOU HAD SEEN THE PEOPLE IN THE PARK ON
9:52:45AM NOVEMBER 16 OF LAST YEAR, YOU COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH
9:52:50AM THAT WHOLE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:52:52AM WHEN I TELL YOU WE BROUGHT THE CITY OUT, WE BROUGHT THE CITY
9:52:55AM OUT.
9:52:55AM WE DID EVERYTHING THE PROPER WAY, ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF

9:52:58AM TAMPA FOR LEASE, EVERYTHING.
9:53:03AM WE HAD NOT ONE PROBLEM.
9:53:04AM WE PLAN TO DO IT AGAIN THIS COMING NOVEMBER 1st.
9:53:09AM SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THE PEOPLE OF
9:53:17AM FAIR OAKS COMMUNITY WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION ON CHANGING THE
9:53:20AM NAME.
9:53:20AM WE LOVE OUR FAIR OAKS.
9:53:22AM BELIEVE YOU ME, FAIR OAKS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU CHANGE YOUR
9:53:25AM NAME TO IT, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE FAIR OAKS BECAUSE THAT'S
9:53:28AM WHAT WE KNOW.
9:53:29AM BUT IF IT HAS TO BE CHANGED, WE WILL ACCEPT THE NAME ARTIS
9:53:37AM GAMBRELL.
9:53:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:53:38AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:53:39AM SHANDA WILLIAMS PASSES, CORRECT?
9:53:39AM CLARISE CRAWFORD PASSES.
9:53:39AM >> CLARENCE.
9:53:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, I'M SORRY.
9:53:39AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY, YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER, FOLLOWED
9:53:39AM BY MR. MARVIN KNIGHT AND MR. GREGORY SPEARS.
9:54:10AM GOOD MORNING, BISHOP.
9:54:10AM COME ON UP AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:54:10AM >> GOOD MORNING. I'M BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
9:54:10AM I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR JANE CASTOR, YOU THE
9:54:11AM COUNCIL PEOPLE, AND ESPECIALLY GWEN HENDERSON WHO REPRESENTS

9:54:15AM DISTRICT 5 AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS BUILDING FAIR OAKS.
9:54:20AM I INITIATED THE BEGINNING FOR FAIR OAKS TO BE REBUILT.
9:54:24AM I'M HERE TODAY ASKING AND I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE
9:54:28AM CONFUSION.
9:54:31AM THE NAME DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CHANGED AND I DO THINK THOSE
9:54:34AM 800 PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THE EVENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PART
9:54:38AM OF DUE PROCESS.
9:54:40AM I'M JUST SAYING THERE SHOULD BE DUE PROCESS THAT YOU SHOULD
9:54:43AM ALLOW TO BE OPEN TO ALL THE RESIDENTS OF EAST TAMPA.
9:54:47AM A LOT OF PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW TODAY THAT THE NAME CHANGE WAS
9:54:53AM ON THE AGENDA.
9:54:54AM I RECEIVED MANY PHONE CALLS WHEN IT WAS LET OUT THAT YOU ALL
9:54:57AM WERE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS.
9:54:59AM WE HAD ISSUES FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE COMMUNITY NOT
9:55:03AM GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
9:55:05AM THE COMMUNITY FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY WAS
9:55:08AM NOT AWARE OF WHAT TRUTH WAS.
9:55:11AM THERE WAS A LOT OF PROPAGANDA THAT WAS GOING OUT.
9:55:14AM SO I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE NO CONFUSION, NO HARD FEELINGS,
9:55:18AM NO PEOPLE BEING UPSET.
9:55:20AM ONE OF THE NAMES THEY TOLD ME ABOUT, MS. YORK, A
9:55:24AM SCHOOLTEACHER AT BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.
9:55:26AM THERE ARE A LOT OF NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT KEPT THE COMMUNITY
9:55:28AM INTACT WHERE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PLAQUES OF THEIR NAMES
9:55:33AM IN THE BUILDING BUT THEY WANT IT TO STAY FAIR OAKS.

9:55:36AM EVERYBODY THAT HAS SPOKEN SAY THEY KNOW IT BY FAIR OAKS.
9:55:39AM WHEN YOU SAY FAIR OAKS, YOU KNOW WHAT PARK WE'RE TALKING
9:55:43AM ABOUT.
9:55:44AM THIS NEED TO BE TAKEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:55:46AM THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE NOTIFIED OF A HEARING AND THEN THE
9:55:50AM COMMUNITY SHOULD COME OUT.
9:55:53AM AND WHATEVER NAME BE SELECTED, THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY
9:55:57AM STAND BY.
9:55:58AM MAJORITY RULES.
9:55:59AM BUT JUST TO DO SOMETHING TODAY, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO
9:56:02AM THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WAS NOT AWARE THAT THIS
9:56:05AM SUBJECT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
9:56:08AM WE DON'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN ANY OTHER PARTS OF THE
9:56:11AM COMMUNITY, SO WHY SHOULD THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY BE RUSHED TO
9:56:17AM DO SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE NO INPUT.
9:56:22AM THAT'S WHERE OUR PROBLEM COMES IN AT, WHEN PEOPLE FEEL THEY
9:56:24AM ARE NOT TALKED TO, THEY ARE NOT GIVEN THE CORRECT
9:56:27AM INFORMATION, AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON
9:56:32AM THE BEHALF.
9:56:32AM EVERY NAME THAT PROBABLY COME OUT A GREAT NAME.
9:56:41AM ASK THAT YOU DELAY THIS AND GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN
9:56:45AM OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT AND LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD.
9:56:48AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:56:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:56:50AM MR. MARVIN KNIGHT.

9:56:52AM MR. GREGORY SPEARS.
9:56:55AM MS. KATRINA VICARS.
9:56:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:56:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME, SIR?
9:57:03AM >> MARVIN KNIGHT.
9:57:05AM I CAN HONESTLY SAY OVER THE YEARS, NOT ONLY BEEN A PART OF
9:57:14AM EAST TAMPA AND THE CITY OF TAMPA AND DOING EVENTS, I DO KNOW
9:57:20AM MR. GAMBRELL, THE LATE ARTIS GAMBRELL.
9:57:25AM HE WAS ALWAYS THERE TO DO THINGS POSITIVE.
9:57:27AM WHEN WE DID EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT ONLY WAS HE
9:57:33AM EMPLOYEE OVER 40 YEARS, BUT HE REALLY GAVE BACK AND NOT JUST
9:57:40AM FOR THE MONEY THAT HE WAS RECEIVING FROM THE CITY, HE DID A
9:57:43AM LOT WITHOUT MONEY.
9:57:45AM THE FAIR OAKS PARK, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, A BUNCH OF OAK TREES
9:57:50AM AND EVERYTHING.
9:57:51AM COUPLE GOT TOGETHER AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE NAME.
9:58:01AM BUNCH OF OAK TREES.
9:58:03AM FAIREST THING TO DO, WHY DON'T WE NAME IT FAIR OAKS.
9:58:06AM THAT'S WHERE FAIR OAKS CAME FROM.
9:58:08AM I SAY, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE ON THIS THING HERE.
9:58:18AM BEST THING TO DO, NOT WAIT NO MORE.
9:58:20AM MAKE A DECISION TODAY.
9:58:22AM I WOULD RECOMMEND ARTIS GAMBRELL SENIOR PARK AT FAIR OAKS.
9:58:28AM YOU'VE GOT FAIR OAKS.
9:58:31AM FAIREST THING TO DO, JUST LIKE HOW IT STARTED AND ARTIS

9:58:34AM GAMBRELL WHO REALLY STOOD UP IN THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE
9:58:40AM CITY OF TAMPA AND THE PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
9:58:44AM I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, A
9:58:49AM LOT OF YOU GUYS, ESPECIALLY CHARLIE, BEEN HERE FOR ALL THE
9:58:53AM DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE.
9:58:57AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:58:57AM SO WE WANT TO NOT ONLY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE TIME, BUT
9:59:04AM I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER AND TO VOTE.
9:59:07AM IF YOU HAVE TO VOTE TODAY, I WOULD SAY HAVE MR. ARTIS
9:59:11AM GAMBRELL AND FAIR OAKS IN THAT NAME.
9:59:14AM THANK YOU.
9:59:14AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:59:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREGORY SPEARS.
9:59:22AM MS. KATRINA VICARS.
9:59:25AM >> GREGORY SPEARS PASSES.
9:59:27AM >> GREGORY SPEARS PASSES, KATRINA VICKERS PASSES.
9:59:31AM LaCHONE TIMES.
9:59:36AM SHE LEFT.
9:59:37AM MS. STEPHANIE POYNOR AND CHERYLENE LEVY.
9:59:41AM MR. STEVE MICHELINI.
9:59:45AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:59:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:59:55AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:59:56AM SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO STEP ONE.
10:00:01AM COUNCIL HAS CHANGED THE PROCESS FOR NAMING PARKS.

10:00:04AM SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TAKE THIS BABY, THIS FOOTBALL AND RUN WITH
10:00:08AM IT AND ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE INPUT FROM THE JUMP.
10:00:13AM I KNOW WHEN COUNCILMAN GUDES MADE THIS MOTION, THERE WASN'T
10:00:18AM A PROCESS.
10:00:18AM THERE IS NOW.
10:00:19AM LET'S GO BACK TO STEP ONE.
10:00:21AM SOMEBODY ON COUNCIL PREFERABLY, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WOULD
10:00:27AM PROBABLY TAKE THIS ON AND GET SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY
10:00:29AM AND DO THE STEPS LIKE WE DID TO NAME THE PARK IN SOUTH
10:00:32AM TAMPA.
10:00:33AM BUT I'M NOT UP HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:00:36AM I COULDN'T HELP BUT COMMENT.
10:00:38AM TIME IS MONEY, ESPECIALLY IN HOUSING.
10:00:41AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE IN FOUR YEARS.
10:00:46AM CASA BELMAR IS 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:00:50AM I WENT BACK AND CHECKED THE DATES.
10:00:52AM FIRST TIME IN ACCELA 12 OF 2021.
10:00:56AM THE GRAND OPENING WAS LAST WEEK.
10:00:58AM IT IS COMPLETELY FULL.
10:00:59AM 100% OCCUPANCY BECAUSE 50 TO 80 PERCENT.
10:01:02AM I HAVE A BIG HUGE, HUGE ISSUE WITH THE FACT THAT THE ROME
10:01:08AM YARD WAS APPROVED IN 2021.
10:01:12AM I WENT OUT THERE THIS MORNING.
10:01:14AM AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU ALL THIS.
10:01:16AM I STOPPED THIS MORNING BECAUSE I'M NOT FROM TAMPA.

10:01:19AM I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THESE FOLKS SAY AND I'VE
10:01:23AM LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE.
10:01:26AM THIS IS ME STOPPING BY THE ROME YARD THIS MORNING.
10:01:28AM I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY WHERE THE YELLOW JACKETS PLAYED.
10:01:34AM AGAIN, HERE WE GO THIS MORNING.
10:01:38AM AND THIS MORNING.
10:01:39AM ACCORDING TO MY LITTLE TIMELINE HERE, NEXT MONTH WILL BE
10:01:43AM FOUR YEARS SINCE THE RFP WAS GIVEN TO RELATED GROUP.
10:01:49AM WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE A DIRT FIELD?
10:01:51AM WHY DO WE NOT HAVE TIMELINES ASSIGNED TO OUR RFPs?
10:01:57AM IF WE ARE GIVING AWAY OUR PROPERTY TO DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP
10:02:04AM FOR US, IF WE ARE GOING UNDER CONTRACTS, WHY IS THERE NOT A
10:02:08AM TIMELINE?
10:02:08AM EVERY SINGLE PROJECT SHOULD HAVE A TIMELINE.
10:02:11AM FOUR YEARS LATER, THESE FOLKS STILL HAVE DIRT.
10:02:16AM 954 UNITS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT HERE.
10:02:19AM YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE JUST YESTERDAY OR THE DAY
10:02:22AM BEFORE, SOMEBODY ASKED ME, WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S DRUG ON FOR
10:02:25AM SO LONG?
10:02:27AM I HAVE HYPOTHESIS FOR STARTERS, WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL
10:02:31AM RIVERWALK THAT WILL RUN RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
10:02:33AM DO YOU THINK THAT CHANGES THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY?
10:02:35AM YOU BETCHA.
10:02:38AM IT SURE DOES.
10:02:39AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE MONEY WE'LL SPEND ON THE

10:02:41AM RIVERWALK.
10:02:42AM WHAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING, WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR MORE
10:02:46AM INFORMATION AND, OF COURSE, I HAVE TO DIG AROUND A LITTLE
10:02:47AM BIT, BUT THE ROME YARD'S WEBSITE IS NONEXISTENT ANYMORE.
10:02:52AM IF YOU GOOGLE THE ROME YARD, IT GOES TO A DEAD PAGE.
10:02:56AM RELATED GROUP DOESN'T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THE PROJECT TO PAY
10:02:59AM FOR THE WEBSITE TO STILL BE UP AND RUNNING?
10:03:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:03:04AM >> THANK YOU.
10:03:05AM YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:03:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHERYLENE LEVY.
10:03:12AM AM I SAYING IT CORRECTLY, MA'AM?
10:03:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:03:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:03:16AM >> MY NAME IS CHERYLENE LEVY.
10:03:18AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY REGARDING THE FAIR OAKS PARK, I'M FROM
10:03:23AM HYDE PARK, BUT MY FAMILY IS RIGHT THERE ON WILDER AND
10:03:27AM 34th.
10:03:28AM FAIR OAKS WAS MY PARK.
10:03:30AM I OWNED A SEMI-PRO FOOTBALL TEAM THAT HAD A LITTLE LEAGUE
10:03:33AM FOOTBALL TEAM.
10:03:34AM I NEEDED SOMEWHERE TO PLAY.
10:03:36AM ARTIS GAMBRELL OPENED UP MANY DOORS IN PARKS IN THE CITY FOR
10:03:42AM US TO HAVE GAMES.
10:03:43AM FAIR OAKS STARTED OUT AS THE BEARS, THE BANDITS, RATTLERS

10:03:48AM AND THE WILD CATS.
10:03:49AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE NOT ONLY DID HE
10:03:53AM HELP THE CHILDREN, HE HELPED ADULTS.
10:03:56AM I SEE A FEW OF THE WORKERS HERE FROM THE CITY THAT HE
10:03:59AM ACTUALLY GAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO.
10:04:02AM AS FAR AS THE KIDS, WE KNOW OUR KIDS NEED A PARK TO GO TO
10:04:06AM AND ARTIS MADE SURE HE HIRED THE RIGHT EMPLOYEES TO WORK
10:04:10AM WITH OUR CHILDREN.
10:04:11AM LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAY, ARTIS WOULD DISCIPLINE THE KIDS
10:04:15AM THERE ALONG WITH THE STAFF.
10:04:17AM WHEN THEY GOT HOME, THEY GOT DISCIPLINED, BECAUSE I WAS ONE
10:04:19AM OF THEM BECAUSE I WAS A BAD LITTLE GIRL.
10:04:21AM I KNOW THEY GOT ME REAL GOOD.
10:04:23AM LOOK AT ME TODAY AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:04:25AM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE CAN PLEASE KEEP THE NAME
10:04:29AM EITHER FAIR OAKS BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS FAIR OAKS, ARTIS
10:04:34AM GAMBRELL, GIVE RESPECT WHERE RESPECT IS DUE.
10:04:36AM THIS MAN HAS DONE A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:04:39AM AS MARVIN KNIGHT SAY, HE DID NOT SPEND JUST MONEY OF HIS
10:04:44AM OWN, HE SPENT HIS OWN PERSONAL MONEY ALONG WITH THE CITY
10:04:47AM MONEY.
10:04:48AM CAN WE BE FAIR ABOUT IT?
10:04:52AM LET'S GIVE OUR PARK WHAT IT REALLY SHOULD BE NAMED AND
10:04:55AM THAT'S ARTIS GAMBRELL SENIOR.
10:04:57AM THANK YOU.

10:04:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:04:58AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:58AM MR. STEVE MICHELINI, SANDRA PARDUE AND AILEEN HENDERSON.
10:05:06AM NO.
10:05:07AM SANDRA PARDUE FOLLOWED BY AILEEN HENDERSON AND MS. ANGELA
10:05:12AM ALDERMAN WIN.
10:05:14AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:05:16AM >> SANDRA PARDUE.
10:05:18AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY EMPLOYEES AND CITIZENS.
10:05:21AM I'M IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE
10:05:24AM DONE TO KEEP OUR PARKS GROWING, IMPROVING AND THRIVING.
10:05:29AM WE'RE LUCKY THAT TAMPA HAS THE FORESIGHT AND THE ABILITY TO
10:05:32AM SUPPORT WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR OUR CITIZENS.
10:05:38AM I HAVE OBSERVATIONS, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS RELATED TO THE
10:05:40AM PARK I ENJOY EACH DAY, THAT'S CURTIS HIXON PARK.
10:05:44AM I LOOK FORWARD EACH DAY TO GOING OVER THERE AND I LOOK
10:05:46AM FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITIES OTHERS HAVE TO GO OVER THERE
10:05:49AM TOO AND EXPERIENCE IT.
10:05:51AM BUT IT'S SUFFERING.
10:05:52AM SOME OF MY OBSERVATIONS, WE SHOW IT A LOT OF LOVE, ALMOST
10:05:56AM TOO MUCH SOMETIMES.
10:05:59AM PAVERS JUTTING UP FROM THE LARGE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WHEN WE
10:06:02AM HAVE FESTIVALS, STAINS ON THE PAVERS AND IN THE GRASS FROM
10:06:05AM THE FLUIDS VEHICLES PUT OUT.
10:06:07AM GRASS TURNS TO SAND AND MUD REAL QUICKLY.

10:06:10AM CIGARETTE BUTTS FROM SMOKING AS CERTAIN PEOPLE OCCUPY PARTS
10:06:14AM OF THE PARK ALL DAY, THE UNHOUSED FOLKS OVER THERE.
10:06:17AM CIGARETTE BUTTS OVER THERE AND SMOKE.
10:06:19AM UNREGULATED HIGH DECIBEL SOUNDS FROM THE MANY FESTIVALS THAT
10:06:23AM WE HAVE.
10:06:23AM RATTLING THE WINDOWS AND PERHAPS DAMAGING THE HEARING OF
10:06:27AM THOSE WHO ARE NOT EVEN AT THE FESTIVAL BUT JUST CLOSE ENOUGH
10:06:31AM TO EXPERIENCE IT.
10:06:32AM 600 YARDS AWAY, YOUR WINDOWS RATTLE.
10:06:35AM SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU THAT I'D LIKE TO YOU CONSIDER AS YOU
10:06:39AM GO FORWARD TRYING TO MANAGE OUR CITY.
10:06:41AM ARE THE FESTIVAL USERS PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE FOR THE WEAR
10:06:44AM AND TEAR THEY PUT ON THE PARK?
10:06:46AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:06:47AM PARKS AND REC MIGHT KNOW.
10:06:48AM YOU MIGHT KNOW.
10:06:49AM DO WE NEED MORE DAILY CHECKS IN THE PARK FOR THOSE WHO ARE
10:06:53AM NOT OBSERVING THE RULES ABOUT SMOKING AND LITTERING?
10:06:56AM LITTER IS MORE THAN CIGARETTE BUTTS.
10:06:58AM SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT USE THE PARK EVERY DAY LEAVE THEIR
10:07:00AM BELONGINGS LYING AROUND IN THE PARK STACKED SOMEWHERE UNDER
10:07:04AM A BENCH OR IN THE BUSHES.
10:07:06AM NEW ORLEANS HAS SOME COOLERS ON THEIR STREET THAT WEREN'T
10:07:08AM APPROPRIATE.
10:07:09AM I'M CONCERNED IF YOU ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE, THAT'S AN

10:07:13AM OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO DO DAMAGE AND MISCHIEF, TAKING
10:07:16AM ADVANTAGE OF A SITUATION.
10:07:17AM WE HAVE NOISE ORDINANCES IN OUR CITY.
10:07:20AM DO THEY COVER WHAT HAPPENS IN THE PARKS?
10:07:23AM I REFERRED TO THE RATTLING WINDOWS BEFORE.
10:07:25AM IF WE DO HAVE THEM, ARE THEY BEING MONITORED?
10:07:28AM IF THEY ARE MONITORED WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT
10:07:31AM MONITORING?
10:07:32AM HEARING DAMAGE AND PROPERTY DAMAGE ARE THE THINGS I'M
10:07:35AM CONCERNED ABOUT THERE.
10:07:37AM I'M PRETTY SURE IF YOU CHECK THE CALLS TO THE NONEMERGENCY
10:07:40AM NUMBER LAST WEEKEND FROM THE FESTIVAL THAT WAS THERE, THERE
10:07:42AM WOULD BE SEVERAL FROM THE NEIGHBORS, MAYBE MORE THAN
10:07:47AM SEVERAL.
10:07:48AM THANK YOU FOR KEEPING OUR PARK SYSTEM AS IT IS AND
10:07:52AM CONTINUING TO IMPROVE IT.
10:07:54AM CURTIS HIXON IS A GEM.
10:07:56AM IT IS A DIAMOND RIGHT NOW.
10:07:58AM BUT IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, NEGLECT OF SOME OF THE ISSUES AS
10:08:03AM IT AGES, IT WON'T BE A DIAMOND ANYMORE.
10:08:06AM IT WILL BE A SCRATCHED CUBIC ZIRCONIUMS.
10:08:10AM LET'S NOT LET THE WEAR AND TEAR ACCUMULATE TO THE POINT THAT
10:08:16AM OVER-USAGE GIVES US SOMETHING IMPOSSIBLE TO DEAL WITH.
10:08:19AM THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY THOUGHTS.
10:08:21AM HOPE YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR GREAT PARKS AND REC FOLKS.

10:08:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AILEEN HENDERSON, ANGELA ALDERMAN WYNN.
10:08:29AM ULRICH JOHNSON.
10:08:32AM >> AILEEN HENDERSON.
10:08:33AM THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
10:08:35AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:08:36AM GLAD TO BE BACK.
10:08:37AM I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU'VE SEEN ME.
10:08:40AM I'M COMING BACK FULL FORCE.
10:08:42AM I'D LIKE TO START WITH RECOGNIZING BLACK HISTORY MONTH FOR
10:08:46AM ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE CELEBRATING.
10:08:49AM SAD THAT WE HAVE TO CELEBRATE FOR A MONTH BECAUSE IT SHOULD
10:08:51AM BE EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.
10:08:53AM I DO WANT TO MENTION ITEM NUMBER 70.
10:08:56AM I WAS HERE WHEN YOU ALL VOTED TO FINALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH
10:08:58AM THE FUNDING.
10:08:59AM IT WAS A GREAT DAY INDEED.
10:09:01AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT THIS NAME AS A FIFTH
10:09:05AM GENERATION OF TAMPA, I KNOW IT AS FAIR OAKS.
10:09:07AM I FIGHT FOR HISTORY AND HISTORY IS IMPORTANT.
10:09:10AM WHEN WE START LOOKING AT CHANGING NAMES, I UNDERSTAND
10:09:13AM DEVELOPMENT HAS TO TAKE PLACE, BUT WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE
10:09:16AM SURE WE TEMPER THAT WITH OUR HISTORY.
10:09:18AM I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD FOR
10:09:22AM THE NAME AND RECONSIDER HOW WE CAN FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.
10:09:25AM I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A NEW PROCESS BUT WE REALLY

10:09:28AM SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS.
10:09:29AM MOVING FORWARD, I WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY THE
10:09:31AM PROJECTS FOR 2025 WITH THE CEMETERY SOCIETY IN HOPES THAT
10:09:36AM YOU CAN BE PROACTIVE AND I DON'T HAVE TO GET OUT THERE IN
10:09:39AM THE STREETS AND PROTEST AND DO EVERYTHING I DO AND GET WITH
10:09:41AM MEDIA TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE CHANGES THAT WE NEED FOR OUR
10:09:44AM HISTORIC CEMETERIES.
10:09:46AM NUMBER ONE, COLLEGE HILL, WHERE IS THE LETTER TO THE STATE?
10:09:49AM I WOULD LIKE A FOLLOW-UP.
10:09:51AM AND THE GPR.
10:09:52AM I WANT THE ITALIAN CLUB TO HEAR ME CLEAR AND LOUD.
10:09:55AM I'M COMING FOR YOU.
10:09:56AM YOU'LL GIVE US THE GPR AND YOU'LL DO THE RIGHT THING AND
10:09:59AM THAT'S FINAL.
10:10:00AM MARTY COLON, THE CITY OF TAMPA NEEDS TO PURCHASE THAT
10:10:08AM PROPERTY, PERIOD.
10:10:08AM THERE ARE BODIES BURIED THERE.
10:10:10AM WE HAVE THE PROOF, LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:10:13AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, WHERE ARE WE WITH THE VETERANS
10:10:16AM MONUMENT?
10:10:16AM LOCATION, RESTORATION, AND SIZE.
10:10:19AM OAK LAWN CEMETERY, THE FENCE TOPPER, I NEED AN UPDATE.
10:10:23AM THE UNHOUSED.
10:10:24AM I WAS JUST THERE RECENTLY AT NIGHT.
10:10:26AM THE TRASH IS STILL DESPICABLE AND IT'S ON TOP OF THE

10:10:30AM CEMETERY.
10:10:31AM THERE ARE PEOPLE SLEEPING ALONG THE WALLS.
10:10:32AM WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A DECADES-LONG PROBLEM.
10:10:36AM IT'S A HISTORIC CEMETERY.
10:10:38AM AND NOW THERE IS A DAMAGED FENCE.
10:10:41AM WOODLAWN HAS A DAMAGED FENCE ALONG THE OLD CENTRO ASTURIANO.
10:10:46AM AND MARKERS, SOMETHING I BROUGHT TO THE TABLE WHEN I STARTED
10:10:51AM THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
10:10:52AM I WAS SORT OF SHOT DOWN.
10:10:54AM WE HAVE NEW BLOOD WITH THE NEW COORDINATOR IN THE PARKS
10:10:58AM DEPARTMENT.
10:10:59AM LINDSEY IS HER NAME.
10:11:01AM SHE WORKS WITH US.
10:11:02AM THERE'S OPEN COMMUNICATION.
10:11:03AM BETTER THAN ANYTHING I EVER HAD.
10:11:05AM KUDOS TO HER.
10:11:06AM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT AND RECOGNIZE THAT.
10:11:09AM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY.
10:11:11AM I WANT YOU TO KNOW I'LL BE SENDING THIS PROJECTS REPORT TO
10:11:14AM YOU AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK AND BE PROACTIVE TO GET THESE
10:11:17AM ITEMS DONE.
10:11:18AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:11:19AM WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
10:11:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:22AM MRS. ANGELA ALDERMAN WIN.

10:11:25AM MR. ULRICH JOHNSON.
10:11:27AM CATHY FRANCOEUR.
10:11:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:11:31AM ANGELA ALDERMAN WIN HERE TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO COLLEGE HILL
10:11:35AM CEMETERY AND THE ITALIAN CLUB'S CONTINUED LACK OF
10:11:39AM TRANSPARENCY WITH SCAN RESULTS.
10:11:42AM TWO MONTHS INTO 2025, I COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ADDRESS THE
10:11:45AM STATUS UPDATES ON SEVERAL ITEMS DISCUSSED BY COUNCIL LAST
10:11:49AM YEAR.
10:11:49AM ONE BEING A LETTER TO BE DRAFTED TO THE STATE REGARDING THE
10:11:53AM ISSUE WITH THE ITALIAN CLUB AND COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY.
10:11:57AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S OFFICE HAS BEEN VERY KIND WITH
10:12:00AM KEEPING ME INFORMED THAT THIS IS BEING WORKED ON.
10:12:02AM I AM HERE TODAY ASKING FOR NEW INFORMATION AND DETAILS IF
10:12:05AM THIS LETTER HAS TAKEN PLACE.
10:12:07AM I AM ALSO HERE TO CHECK THE STATUS ON THE LETTER THAT WAS TO
10:12:10AM BE PENNED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA'S OFFICE LAST YEAR TO THE
10:12:13AM ITALIAN CLUB.
10:12:14AM DUE TO THEIR LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WITH THE SCAN RESULTS AND
10:12:18AM IGNORING COUNCIL'S MANY REQUESTS TO ATTEND TO PRODUCE THE
10:12:22AM RESULTS.
10:12:22AM I HAVE STOOD BEFORE COUNCIL FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
10:12:25AM NOW WE ARE GOING INTO ANOTHER YEAR.
10:12:27AM MY HEART WILL REMAIN HOPEFUL THAT 2025 WILL BRING US THE
10:12:31AM ANSWERS WE NEED.

10:12:32AM I AM GRATEFUL FOR WHAT COUNCIL HAS DONE AND BEEN ABLE TO DO
10:12:36AM THUS FAR.
10:12:37AM I AM ASKING COUNCIL TO PLEASE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT MY EFFORTS
10:12:40AM WITH CLOSURE AND ANSWERS TO WHERE THE 1200 LOST SOULS ARE
10:12:44AM THAT REST WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT IS NOW THE ITALIAN
10:12:47AM CLUB CEMETERY.
10:12:48AM I WILL NOT GO AWAY SILENTLY.
10:12:52AM I WILL NOT LET THIS BE BRUSHED ASIDE AND FORGOTTEN AGAIN AS
10:12:56AM THE ITALIAN CLUB WOULD LIKE.
10:12:58AM I WILL NEVER ABANDON THIS ISSUE.
10:13:01AM HOWEVER, I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND GIVE
10:13:04AM RESTORATION AND DIGNITY BACK TO THOSE WHO WERE DESECRATED AT
10:13:08AM COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY.
10:13:09AM I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING TO LIGHT THE TRUTH AND HELP THE
10:13:13AM COMMUNITY HEAL FROM YET ANOTHER DESECRATED AND FORGOTTEN
10:13:17AM CEMETERY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:13:18AM I MAY BE ONE PERSON STANDING BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY, BUT I
10:13:22AM HAVE 1200 ALONGSIDE ME, WAITING FOR THEIR HEALING AND MEMORY
10:13:27AM TO BE RESTORED.
10:13:29AM THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
10:13:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:13:30AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:30AM ULRICH JOHNSON.
10:13:36AM IS THE GENTLEMAN HERE?
10:13:37AM CATHY FRANCOEUR.

10:13:42AM SHANTA DAVIS, I BELIEVE.
10:13:45AM MENTESNOT AND MS. CONNIE BURTON.
10:13:48AM AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:13:52AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:13:55AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:13:55AM >> CATHY FRANCOEUR.
10:13:58AM I LIVE ON WESTLAND, ONE STREET IN FROM HOWARD.
10:14:03AM I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT STRETCH WHERE
10:14:06AM THEY PUT THE NEW PARKING SPOTS ON HOWARD.
10:14:13AM I HAVE ALREADY ALMOST AVOIDED AN ACCIDENT HAVING TO SLAM ON
10:14:16AM MY BRAKES BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS PULLING OUT ONTO HOWARD FROM
10:14:19AM THE WEST SIDE OF De LEON.
10:14:23AM WHEN THOSE PARKING SPOTS ARE FULL, YOU CAN'T SEE COMING OUT
10:14:28AM ONTO HOWARD.
10:14:29AM YOU ONLY HAVE A FEW FEET BECAUSE ALL THE CARS ARE THERE AND
10:14:34AM YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT IS COMING, SO THEY DARTED OUT IN FRONT OF
10:14:37AM ME.
10:14:38AM I DON'T KNOW WHO ACTUALLY MADE THE DECISION TO PUT THOSE
10:14:40AM PARKING SPOTS THERE BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY THINK THEY KNOW
10:14:44AM WHAT GOES ON AFTER 11 P.M., FROM 11 TO 3.
10:14:49AM NOW YOU HAVE THE PARKED CARS THERE.
10:14:52AM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE KIDS, MOST OF THEM ARE DRUNK,
10:14:58AM DARTING ACROSS HOWARD TRYING TO GET TO THEIR PARKED CARS.
10:15:01AM THEY DON'T USE THE CROSSWALKS.
10:15:04AM I HAVE A PICTURE HERE.

10:15:07AM YOU HAVE ALL THIS TRAFFIC COMING NORTH ON HOWARD.
10:15:10AM PEOPLE JUST DARTING ACROSS.
10:15:14AM YOU HAVE UBER -- EXCUSE ME, THE UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS
10:15:19AM DROPPING PEOPLE OFF AND ADD TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE
10:15:22AM TRYING TO PARALLEL PARK ON THE STREET.
10:15:24AM IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.
10:15:26AM SPEAKING OF THE UBER DRIVERS, I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PLANNING
10:15:31AM A DESIGNATED DROP-OFF ZONE.
10:15:34AM I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THEY ARE PLANNING THIS.
10:15:37AM I'M TRYING TO FIND THAT OUT.
10:15:40AM WE ARE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:15:42AM OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH
10:15:46AM RUDE, INCONSIDERATE DRUNK PEOPLE JUST GOING THROUGH OUR
10:15:50AM NEIGHBORHOOD ON FOOT.
10:15:51AM WHOEVER DECIDED THIS, I HOPE THEY THINK LONG AND HARD WHERE
10:15:56AM THEY PLAN ON PUTTING THAT BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE NO
10:16:00AM RESIDENT WANTS THAT NEAR THEIR HOUSE.
10:16:02AM LASTLY, ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, THE POLICE BLOCK OFF
10:16:08AM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE STREETS TO KEEP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC
10:16:13AM GOING ON HOWARD.
10:16:14AM WHAT THAT DOES IS IT BRINGS ALL THAT TRAFFIC FROM HOWARD
10:16:22AM ONTO OUR RESIDENTIAL STREET, MOSTLY ON WESTLAND.
10:16:27AM THAT WHOLE REDIRECTION OF TRAFFIC THE POLICE ARE DOING, IT
10:16:33AM IS A NONSTOP INCREASE OF TRAFFIC INTO WESTLAND.
10:16:38AM AND NOT ONLY THAT, MY NEIGHBOR HAD HIS CAR SIDESWIPED

10:16:42AM BECAUSE WE WERE PARKED ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREET AND ALL
10:16:45AM THIS TRAFFIC WAS COMING THROUGH.
10:16:47AM LASTLY, I REQUESTED THAT THESE BARRICADES, THE POLICE USE
10:16:54AM THESE ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT.
10:16:56AM THEY SIT HERE ALL WEEK LONG FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW, AND
10:17:02AM NOBODY PICKS THEM UP DURING THE WEEK.
10:17:04AM THEY GET TRASHED.
10:17:06AM I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO CAN REMOVE THOSE DURING THE WEEK.
10:17:10AM SO THANK YOU.
10:17:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:17:11AM CHIEF OF STAFF -- HE'S TAKING NOTES RIGHT THERE.
10:17:16AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:17:17AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:17:18AM I HAVE AN EXTRA SPEAKER.
10:17:19AM ROBIN LOCKETT WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.
10:17:22AM THE CARD WAS IN THE BOX.
10:17:24AM SHANTA?
10:17:27AM IS SHANTA HERE?
10:17:28AM ALL RIGHT.
10:17:33AM MENTESNOT.
10:17:33AM MS. CONNIE BURTON, MS. ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:17:40AM >> UHURU.
10:17:42AM MENTESNOT.
10:17:43AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
10:17:47AM MENTESNOT MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

10:17:50AM ONE THING I CAN SAY, BLACK PEOPLE BORED AS F.
10:17:54AM BLACK PEOPLE BORED AS F.
10:17:57AM YOU ALL DOWN HERE TALKING ABOUT NAMING MFING PARK AND WE
10:18:01AM HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS INSIDE OUR COMMUNITIES, THAT'S
10:18:05AM IGNORANT.
10:18:06AM STRAIGHT IGNORANT.
10:18:07AM IT'S AS IGNORANT AS ME.
10:18:09AM ADVERTISE IT.
10:18:10AM YOU UNDERSTAND.
10:18:11AM LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE DID A LOT OF GOOD IN THIS COMMUNITY.
10:18:15AM UNDERSTAND?
10:18:15AM YOU ALL MAKING FUSS OVER NAMING AN MFING PARK, AS IGNORANT
10:18:22AM AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN BE.
10:18:23AM DONALD TRUMP JUST TOOK OFFICE AND BLACK PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT
10:18:26AM NAMING PARK.
10:18:27AM WHITE PEOPLE OVER THERE WORRIED ABOUT HOW THEY RUN STUFF
10:18:30AM THROUGH HYDE PARK AND YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT NAMING A PARK.
10:18:33AM COACH BARNES, PAPA GREEN, ARTIS GAMBRELL, COACH WRIGHT.
10:18:42AM GAY PAPA MILES.
10:18:45AM NOBODY TALKS ABOUT BIG JOHNS FROM BIG JOHNS ALABAMA
10:18:49AM BARBEQUE.
10:18:49AM FED A LOT OF PEOPLE.
10:18:50AM FREE.
10:18:53AM MR. BAXLEY.
10:18:55AM LADY OVER HERE IN CENTRAL PARK, DREW A BLANK THINKING OF HER

10:18:59AM NAME.
10:19:00AM DID SO MUCH TO HOLD THE HOOD DOWN.
10:19:03AM LOTS OF PEOPLE.
10:19:04AM NAME IT THE MAURICE BISHOP PARK, MALCOLM X PARK.
10:19:10AM SOMETHING THAT BLACK PEOPLE CAN LOOK UP TO.
10:19:13AM BLACK MAN BEEN IN THE PARK DECADES.
10:19:17AM TINTED WINDOWS.
10:19:19AM NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIM.
10:19:21AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:19:23AM I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING SILLY.
10:19:26AM WHAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IS CHILD SUPPORT.
10:19:30AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT.
10:19:32AM CHILD SUPPORT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM INSIDE THE BLACK
10:19:36AM COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS.
10:19:38AM CREATES MORE HAVOC INSIDE THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:19:42AM IT IS A EUGENICS PROGRAM.
10:19:47AM IT IS ILLEGAL, UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
10:19:49AM WHITE FOLKS KNOW IT, JUDGES KNOW IT.
10:19:51AM HEARING OFFICERS KNOW IT.
10:19:52AM MAGISTRATES KNOW IT.
10:19:54AM THE SUPREME COURT OF FLORIDA KNOW IT.
10:19:56AM THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT KNOW IT.
10:19:58AM THEY ALL KNOW IT.
10:19:59AM IT'S LIKE SLAVERY.
10:20:00AM THEY KNEW IT FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

10:20:03AM THE MFERS LET IT GOING ON.
10:20:06AM EVEN THE DRED SCOTT DECISION.
10:20:08AM THEY REAFFIRMED IT.
10:20:09AM THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH CHILD SUPPORT.
10:20:12AM HUMAN OWNERSHIP, HUMAN TRAFFICKING PROGRAM.
10:20:14AM THIS IS THE CHILD SUPPORT APPLICATION.
10:20:16AM YOU SEE THE FIRST QUESTION IN THE CHILD SUPPORT APPLICATION,
10:20:18AM THE FIRST ENTRY IN THE CHILD SUPPORT APPLICATION IS, I HAVE
10:20:22AM A FEAR OF PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL HARM FROM THE OTHER PARENT.
10:20:28AM THE APPLICATION IS TOTALLY LEADING AND TOTALLY MISLEADING
10:20:32AM AND TOTALLY ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
10:20:34AM THIS CITY COUNCIL GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S
10:20:37AM RUINING TOO MANY BLACK FAMILIES.
10:20:39AM TOO MANY OLD BLACK MEN WALKING AROUND HERE WITH NO DRIVER'S
10:20:44AM LICENSE.
10:20:46AM OLD, ELDERLY BLACK MEN.
10:20:48AM TIME TO STOP IT.
10:20:49AM CHILD SUPPORT.
10:20:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:20:51AM MS. CONNIE BURTON.
10:20:52AM OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MS. ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:20:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
10:21:01AM BLACK HISTORY, 365 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR.
10:21:06AM THIS MONTH, THOUGH, IS THE MONTH THAT SHOULD PIQUE THE
10:21:11AM CONSCIOUSNESS OF THOSE THAT LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES THAT

10:21:16AM CAN GIVE TESTIMONY TO THE FACT THAT BLACK PEOPLE THAT WAS
10:21:18AM ENSLAVED AND BUILT THIS COUNTRY TO THE LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT
10:21:23AM IT IS RIGHT NOW, BLACK PEOPLE STILL DON'T ENJOY IT.
10:21:27AM WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO COME AS YOU REDEVELOP INSIDE OF OUR
10:21:33AM COMMUNITY, BEG, PLEAD, HOPE THAT WE PIQUE YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS
10:21:38AM TO LISTEN TO THE CRIES OF THE PEOPLE.
10:21:41AM PARKS THAT WE RECOGNIZE, THAT HAS BEEN A STAPLE HOLDER TO
10:21:46AM OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD REMAIN AS SUCH.
10:21:49AM AS THIS CITY CONTINUED TO GENTRIFY, IT CANNOT BECOME THE
10:21:53AM BELOVED CITY THAT YOU IDENTIFIED IN RESOLUTION 344.
10:21:58AM WHEN THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH IS BEING RECOGNIZED, I OFTEN
10:22:02AM LOOK AND SAY WHAT BLACK INSTITUTION CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT
10:22:06AM PROCESS?
10:22:06AM NONE.
10:22:07AM YOU KNOW WHY?
10:22:08AM THEY HAVE ALL BEEN DESTROYED.
10:22:11AM THEY HAVE ALL GONE AWAY.
10:22:13AM THINGS THAT GAVE US MORE ENCOURAGEMENT, THOSE INSTITUTIONS
10:22:17AM HAVE GONE.
10:22:19AM WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU CAN DO IT TO SELL, I'M HERE EVERY
10:22:23AM WEEK TO SEE HOW THIS MAYOR, THIS CITY GOVERNMENT LENDS $12
10:22:27AM MILLION LOANS TO INSTITUTIONS SO THEY CAN PROJECT THEIR
10:22:33AM PROJECTS.
10:22:33AM THIS MORNING I WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT FOR OVER 115
10:22:38AM YEARS, WE'VE HAD A SOLID INSTITUTION INSIDE OF THE BLACK

10:22:42AM COMMUNITY CALLED THE NAACP.
10:22:44AM SOME FIND IT TO BE DISGUSTING TO THEM BECAUSE TO THE
10:22:51AM CONSCIOUSNESS OF MAKING SURE THAT BLACK PEOPLE, BLACK PEOPLE
10:22:55AM CAN BE GIVEN A SEMBLANCE OF EQUALITY AND JUSTICE.
10:23:00AM AS MOST WHITE PEOPLE WATCH YOUR NATIONAL LEADERSHIP GET
10:23:04AM READY TO RUN THIS WHOLE COUNTRY OFF THE RAIL, YOU REMAIN
10:23:09AM SILENT.
10:23:10AM WE DON'T PLAN ON REMAINING SILENT.
10:23:12AM WE PLAN ON CONTINUING AS WE'VE JUST SEEN TWO WEEKS AGO, THE
10:23:21AM INSTALLATION OF NEW OFFICERS AT THE NAACP THAT WE SAY EVEN
10:23:26AM TO THIS CITY GOVERNMENT THAT REFUSE TO RECOGNIZE THAT
10:23:30AM LEADERSHIP, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON MOVING FORWARD.
10:23:33AM WE ALSO RECOGNIZE, TOO, THAT IF YOU ARE TO BECOME A BELOVED
10:23:39AM CITY LIKE YOUR RESOLUTION 344 LAY OUT YOU WANT TO BECOME,
10:23:43AM THAT YOU LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT YOU LISTEN TO THE
10:23:46AM PEOPLE, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THAT
10:23:50AM BOARD, THAT BODY TO COME BACK AND TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE DOING
10:23:54AM WRONG.
10:23:55AM EACH WEEK, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO INFORM HAD THE
10:23:57AM COMMUNITY OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE NOT DOING.
10:23:59AM THANK YOU.
10:23:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:00AM OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MS. ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:24:03AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:24:06AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:24:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:24:09AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:24:11AM I WANT TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:24:13AM THINGS THAT I APPRECIATE FIRST.
10:24:15AM I APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT THE AGENDA IS BEING CREATED.
10:24:20AM ALSO, THE OUTCOME OF THE AGENDA WITH THE MINUTES AND THE
10:24:26AM DATES THAT YOU GUYS DECIDED OF NEXT THINGS COMING UP, I
10:24:31AM APPRECIATE THAT.
10:24:32AM THAT ALLOWS THE COMMUNITY IF THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE AGENDA,
10:24:35AM WHAT ACTION ITEMS HAVE HAPPENED AND THEY CAN LOOK FORWARD TO
10:24:40AM THE NEXT DATE.
10:24:41AM WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT THIS SHOULD BE EVERYTHING.
10:24:46AM YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT MAKE A MOTION AND NOT HAVE -- AND MOTION
10:24:50AM APPROVED FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO COME UP AND NOT HAVE A DATE
10:24:53AM TAGGED TO IT.
10:24:54AM THERE SHOULD BE A DATE TAGGED TO ALL OF YOUR STUFF SO YOU
10:24:58AM KNOW.
10:24:58AM WON'T GET LOST IN THE FRAY.
10:25:00AM IT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK UP.
10:25:02AM THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.
10:25:03AM FAIR OAKS.
10:25:09AM I THINK AS EVERYBODY SAYS, I DIDN'T GROW UP OFF OF 34th.
10:25:14AM I GREW UP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF EAST TAMPA.
10:25:17AM BUT I THINK THAT IT IS DUTIFUL OF THE COUNCIL TO LISTEN TO
10:25:25AM THE COMMUNITY AND COME UP WITH A NAME.

10:25:28AM A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME OUT SAYING FAIR OAKS WAS THE NAME,
10:25:33AM ARTIS GAMBRELL WAS THE NAME.
10:25:35AM PLEASE DO DUE PROCESS ON IT.
10:25:38AM FORMER COUNCILMAN ORLANDO GUDES TEXTED ME.
10:25:40AM HE STATES THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED A LETTER FROM HIM.
10:25:43AM HE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO READ THAT LETTER.
10:25:46AM THAT WAS HIS REQUEST HE WANTED ME TO ASK.
10:25:48AM THAT WAS IT.
10:25:58AM FAIR OAKS SHOULD BE -- YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY BY
10:26:03AM ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
10:26:04AM IF IT'S COMING OUT, ADVERTISE IT WELL.
10:26:07AM DON'T ADVERTISE IT IN SECRET AND THEN NOBODY SHOWS UP AND
10:26:10AM YOU SAY NOBODY CAME OUT.
10:26:12AM ADVERTISE IT WELL.
10:26:13AM DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON ADVERTISING IT WELL AND BRING THE
10:26:16AM COMMUNITY SO AS OF THAT DATE, LIKE SOMEBODY HAD INDICATED,
10:26:20AM AS OF THAT DAY, IT'S DECIDED.
10:26:22AM AND EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY CAN MOVE ON.
10:26:24AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:26:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:26:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:27AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:26:31AM ANY REQUESTS BY PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE
10:26:33AM MATTERS?
10:26:33AM ALL RIGHT.

10:26:34AM WE'LL GO INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
10:26:37AM PUBLIC SAFETY IS COUNCIL MEMBER -- YES.
10:26:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DID THE AGENDA REVIEW EARLIER TODAY AND
10:26:42AM KIND OF BYPASSED THIS ITEM ON FAIR OAKS, 70.
10:26:46AM I SUGGEST WE STRIKE THIS FROM OUR AGENDA FOR NOW UNTIL IT IS
10:26:50AM READDRESSED, SO REMOVE ITEM 70.
10:26:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO READ COUNCILMAN GUDES' MEMO
10:26:57AM AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.
10:26:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
10:26:59AM THAT'S FINE.
10:27:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO IT NOW OR WAIT UNTIL THEN, COUNCILMAN
10:27:03AM CARLSON?
10:27:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: WAIT UNTIL THE AGENDA.
10:27:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S GO INTO CONSENT AGENDA THEN.
10:27:09AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOUR ITEM FOR 5-7.
10:27:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:27:13AM MOVE 5-7.
10:27:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:27:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:27:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:18AM AYE.
10:27:19AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:27:19AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, 8 THROUGH 17 IS YOUR COMMITTEE.
10:27:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
10:27:33AM YES, I MOVE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD AFFAIRS ITEMS AGENDA --

10:27:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 8 THROUGH 17.
10:27:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 8 THROUGH 17.
10:27:45AM THANK YOU.
10:27:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:27:47AM HENDERSON.
10:27:47AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:27:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:49AM AYE.
10:27:50AM I'M SORRY.
10:27:53AM WE NEED TO DO ROLL CALL BECAUSE SHE IS VIRTUAL.
10:27:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR EVERY SINGLE THING?
10:28:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT INVOLVES HER VOTE --
10:28:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN TAKE IT AS A GROUP, RIGHT?
10:28:11AM >>THE CLERK: JUST THE ORDINANCES.
10:28:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST THE ORDINANCES?
10:28:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH.
10:28:14AM ALL RIGHT.
10:28:15AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE 8-17.
10:28:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO.
10:28:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:21AM AYE.
10:28:22AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:23AM LEGALLY SUFFICIENT.
10:28:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE JUST DID IT FOR ALL THE OTHER ONES.
10:28:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET'S DO IT FOR THE CONSENT DOCKET AND LET

10:28:33AM ME THINK IT THROUGH.
10:28:34AM UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
10:28:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 18 THROUGH 21 AND 23 THROUGH 34.
10:28:43AM BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
10:28:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:28:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:51AM AYE.
10:28:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AYE.
10:28:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:28:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:28:59AM MOVE ITEMS 35 THROUGH 38.
10:29:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:29:03AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:29:04AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:04AM AYE.
10:29:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AYE.
10:29:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:29:08AM ITEMS 40 THROUGH 44, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON?
10:29:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
10:29:14AM I NEED TO ABSTAIN ON ITEM 43.
10:29:19AM MY FIRM DOES NOT DO BUSINESS RELATED TO ANY CITY PROJECTS,
10:29:23AM INCLUDING THIS ONE.
10:29:24AM HOWEVER, WE HAVE A CLIENT THAT MAY BENEFIT FROM THIS.
10:29:27AM SO I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MY FORM 8B.

10:29:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
10:29:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:34AM AYE.
10:29:35AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 40 THROUGH 42 AND THEN
10:29:38AM 44.
10:29:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:29:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:42AM AYE.
10:29:44AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:29:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEM 45 --
10:29:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, 43.
10:29:50AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:29:52AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:29:54AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:54AM AYE.
10:29:56AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
10:30:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 45 IS COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:30:02AM YOU WERE THE VICE-CHAIR OF THE PREVIOUS ONE, THAT'S WHY I
10:30:04AM CALLED ON YOU.
10:30:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEM 45.
10:30:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:30:09AM CLENDENIN.
10:30:10AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:30:11AM ALL IN FAVOR?

10:30:12AM AYE.
10:30:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AYE.
10:30:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:30:15AM WE HAVE AN ITEM BEING SET FOR SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
10:30:20AM MARCH 6, 10:30 A.M., MARCH 27, 10:30 A.M., AT 315 EAST
10:30:24AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, 33602.
10:30:28AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:30:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:30:32AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:30:33AM AYE.
10:30:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AYE.
10:30:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE AT 10:30.
10:30:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
10:30:39AM THE ITEMS ON THE STAFF REPORTS.
10:30:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WERE REQUESTS FOR IN-PERSON FOR
10:30:46AM SOME OF THEM.
10:30:47AM I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY MISTAKES.
10:30:52AM 60 AND 64, IT WAS REQUESTED -- IT WAS REQUESTED THAT THEY
10:30:57AM APPEAR IN PERSON.
10:30:58AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEM 61, 62, 63, 65, AND 66 AND 69.
10:31:13AM OH, NO, WE ALREADY DID THAT.
10:31:14AM SORRY.
10:31:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 65 AND THEN 66.
10:31:17AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.

10:31:19AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:31:21AM ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE.
10:31:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:31:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:31:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:31:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:31:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:31:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:31:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:31:35AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:31:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
10:31:43AM HEARINGS OF 10:00?
10:31:44AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:31:46AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:31:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:31:49AM AYE.
10:31:50AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:31:50AM ITEMS 47 AND 48 ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:31:55AM WE DON'T HAVE TO SWEAR ANYBODY IN.
10:31:57AM WE HAVE A BRIEF UPDATE FROM THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR ON ITEM
10:32:03AM NUMBER 47.
10:32:05AM IF SHE IS HERE, YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
10:32:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:32:15AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:16AM DEANNA FAGGART, DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING.

10:32:20AM WE ARE HERE FOR THE SECOND READING OF THE THRESHOLD
10:32:25AM INCREASE.
10:32:25AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:32:28AM THIS IS BASICALLY TO BRING US UP TO DATE.
10:32:32AM WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE TO THE THRESHOLD IN ABOUT 25 YEARS.
10:32:36AM SO THIS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED BY STAFF AS FAR AS
10:32:40AM REDUCING WORKLOAD A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF BALANCING THINGS
10:32:44AM OUT.
10:32:44AM I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:32:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:32:48AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:32:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT SIX MONTHS
10:32:52AM AGO OR SO, MET WITH STAFF AND CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT A WHOLE
10:32:58AM SERIES OF NEW GUIDELINES FOR PURCHASING, LIKE THREE BID
10:33:03AM MINIMUM AND WAYS TO DO PIGGYBACKING, ET CETERA.
10:33:06AM PURCHASING AND CHIEF OF STAFF AGREED TO ALL THOSE.
10:33:09AM WE'VE APPROVED ALL OF THEM AND NOW WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT
10:33:12AM POLICIES AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THEM ALSO.
10:33:14AM THE ISSUE AT THE TIME WAS THAT CHIEF OF STAFF AND PURCHASING
10:33:19AM SAID ALL THAT IS GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME AND OTHER
10:33:23AM JURISDICTIONS HAVE RAISED THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD.
10:33:26AM IN BALANCING THOSE, I THINK IT WAS WORTH THE TRADE-OFF TO
10:33:32AM GET THOSE ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.
10:33:37AM I'M VOTING FOR THESE.
10:33:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:33:39AM ANYTHING ELSE?
10:33:40AM IF NOT, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 47?
10:33:44AM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:33:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
10:33:46AM SHE'S COMING UP.
10:33:50AM WE HAVE A SPEAKER.
10:33:52AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:34:00AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:34:02AM IT SEEMS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES
10:34:07AM THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY WHERE WE KIND OF STAGNATE OURSELVES
10:34:11AM AND WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
10:34:16AM INFLATION, CPI, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
10:34:18AM THIS PARTICULAR THING, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT I WANT
10:34:21AM TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RAISING OUR FEES, THAT THE CITIZENS OF
10:34:25AM TAMPA ARE OFFSETTING, ALONG WITH THE IMPACTS OF THESE
10:34:29AM CHANGES.
10:34:30AM SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE
10:34:33AM FEES THAT THE CITIZENS ARE OFFSETTING SHOULD BE ADJUSTED FOR
10:34:38AM CPI AND WHATNOT AS WELL.
10:34:40AM I THINK THAT IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO MAKE THIS INCREASE.
10:34:42AM THANK YOU.
10:34:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:34:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:34:45AM I WANTED TO TALK TO MS. FAGGART ABOUT ONE THING WE TALKED
10:34:52AM ABOUT DURING OUR PREP MEETING OF RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LIMIT

10:34:56AM OF 100,000.
10:34:58AM BUT IF SOMETHING WERE TO BE AT 95,000 TO 100,000, YOU CREATE
10:35:04AM A MEMO FOR COUNCIL.
10:35:05AM CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT YOUR PLAN IS FOR THIS RAISING UP TO
10:35:10AM THE 200,000?
10:35:12AM >>DEANNA FAGGART: YES.
10:35:13AM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
10:35:16AM SO, CURRENTLY, AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED, IF WE ARE
10:35:20AM MAKING A PURCHASE THAT IS BETWEEN 95 AND 100 THOUSAND
10:35:24AM DOLLARS THAT IS EXEMPT FROM COUNCIL APPROVAL, WE STILL
10:35:28AM PROVIDE REPORTING ON 50,000 TO 100.
10:35:31AM BUT FROM 95 TO 100 WE REQUIRE THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS
10:35:35AM PROVIDE A MEMO EXPLAINING THE PRICING, WHY WE'RE IN THAT,
10:35:40AM JUST BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF SKIRTING THE THRESHOLD.
10:35:43AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT AN
10:35:45AM ATTEMPT TO SKIRT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
10:35:48AM SO WE DO HAVE THEM WRITE A JUSTIFICATION MEMO, AND WE SUBMIT
10:35:52AM THAT WITH OUR REPORTS EVERY QUARTER.
10:35:53AM THE INTENT NOW, IF YOU ALL APPROVE THIS CHANGE, IS THAT WE
10:35:57AM WILL NOW REQUIRE A MEMO FROM 190,000 TO 200,000.
10:36:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:36:04AM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOLKS KNEW THAT.
10:36:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:36:07AM CLENDENIN.
10:36:08AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.

10:36:09AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:36:10AM AYE.
10:36:11AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING 47?
10:36:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:36:15AM THANK YOU.
10:36:16AM ITEM NUMBER 47, FILE NUMBER E2024-8, CHAPTER 2, ORDINANCE
10:36:23AM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:36:25AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, REGARDING BIDDING AND
10:36:28AM CERTAIN CONTRACTS; AMENDING SECTION 2-276, CITY OF TAMPA
10:36:32AM CODE, TO EXEMPT FROM CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL ALL PURCHASES
10:36:37AM REQUIRING AN EXPENDITURE OF LESS THAN 200,000; AMENDING
10:36:42AM SECTION 2-277, CITY OF TAMPA CODE, TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR
10:36:46AM OF PURCHASING TO ADMINISTER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT CONTRACTS
10:36:49AM ESTIMATED TO COST LESS THAN 200,000; PROVIDING FOR
10:36:53AM SEVERABILITY; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH;
10:36:58AM PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:37:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:37:02AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:37:02AM YES, MA'AM.
10:37:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOLLARS IS IN THERE.
10:37:06AM BECAUSE THAT WAS SKIPPED BOTH TIMES.
10:37:07AM $200,000.
10:37:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND NO EUROS, NO YEN, DOLLARS.
10:37:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:37:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.

10:37:21AM >>THE CLERK: HENDERSON?
10:37:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:37:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:37:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:37:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:37:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:37:27AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:37:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:37:32AM ITEM NUMBER 48.
10:37:41AM I THINK THIS GOES RIGHT WITH IT.
10:37:44AM YES, SIR.
10:37:45AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:37:46AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:37:47AM RICH MUTTERBACK, DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, HERE
10:37:50AM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 48.
10:37:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
10:37:54AM NO.
10:37:55AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON 48?
10:37:57AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:38:01AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:38:02AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:38:03AM AYE.
10:38:04AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING 48?
10:38:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: SURE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:38:07AM I MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

10:38:09AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:38:12AM AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE V, DIVISION
10:38:16AM 3, PURCHASES AND CONTRACTS, SECTION 2-280 REQUIRING THAT
10:38:19AM WORK ORDERS MAY NOT BE ISSUED TO A SINGLE PROVIDER OF
10:38:23AM PROFESSIONAL SERVICES EXCEEDING 200,000 IN THE AGGREGATE PER
10:38:27AM FISCAL YEAR WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL AND INCREASING THE
10:38:29AM THRESHOLD AMOUNT FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF WORK FROM
10:38:34AM 100,000 TO 200,000 DOLLARS; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
10:38:39AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
10:38:43AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:38:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL
10:38:45AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:38:47AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:38:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:38:50AM >> HENDERSON?
10:38:50AM HENDERSON?
10:38:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON?
10:39:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:39:04AM I'M SORRY.
10:39:04AM I'M HERE.
10:39:05AM CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, CHAIR?
10:39:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE'RE DOING A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR
10:39:11AM ITEM 48 AND GOING DOWN THE LINE.
10:39:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, I'M SORRY.
10:39:15AM MY AIDE WAS IN MY EAR.

10:39:16AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:39:18AM YES.
10:39:21AM >>THE CLERK: VIERA?
10:39:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:39:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:39:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:39:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:39:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:39:27AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:39:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:39:31AM WE HAVE OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:39:36AM WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE REGISTERED.
10:39:38AM I SEE RODRIGUEZ AND RANDY COEN.
10:39:43AM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE ON RIGHT NOW.
10:39:45AM IF THEY ARE, WE'LL HAVE THEM RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND
10:39:48AM WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN.
10:39:50AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 49 THROUGH 55, PLEASE
10:39:55AM STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:39:58AM 49 THROUGH 55.
10:40:01AM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
10:40:03AM YOU ARE ABOUT TO -- IS THE TRUTH?
10:40:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:40:11AM ITEM NUMBER 49.
10:40:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:40:16AM STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

10:40:18AM ITEM 49 IS REZ-23-71.
10:40:22AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:40:25AM 5106 EAST 21st AVENUE.
10:40:28AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD AND RM 16 TO COMMERCIAL
10:40:33AM INDUSTRIAL.
10:40:33AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:40:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:40:37AM ALL RIGHT.
10:40:39AM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 49?
10:40:41AM COME ON UP.
10:40:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, BRIAN SYKES, 4923 WEST
10:40:54AM CYPRESS STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33607.
10:40:57AM NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD FROM OUR PRIOR HEARING.
10:41:00AM APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
10:41:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:03AM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 49?
10:41:06AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH A MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:41:12AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:41:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:41:14AM AYE.
10:41:15AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 49?
10:41:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SURE.
10:41:18AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:41:21AM ADOPTION.
10:41:21AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

10:41:23AM 5106 EAST 21st AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
10:41:27AM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:41:29AM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND RM 16,
10:41:34AM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE,
10:41:37AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:41:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:41:40AM CLENDENIN.
10:41:40AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:41:42AM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:41:45AM >>THE CLERK: HENDERSON?
10:41:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:41:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:41:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:41:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:41:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:41:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:41:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:41:58AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:41:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:42:00AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, I ACCIDENTALLY SKIPPED OVER YOU.
10:42:04AM ITEM 50, I'LL ASK THAT YOU READ IT IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT.
10:42:08AM ITEM NUMBER 50.
10:42:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S OKAY, CHAIR.
10:42:11AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT SOUNDS BETTER JUST COMING FROM INSIDE THE
10:42:14AM CHAMBER.

10:42:15AM I'M OKAY WITH FOREGOING MY TURN IN READING ANYTHING.
10:42:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:42:19AM YES, MA'AM.
10:42:19AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:42:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:42:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 50.
10:42:23AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT HERE?
10:42:25AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: GOOD MORNING.
10:42:26AM SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:42:28AM ITEM NUMBER 50 IS REZ-24-61.
10:42:31AM THE ITEM IS A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3704 AND
10:42:35AM 3706 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD.
10:42:38AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50
10:42:42AM AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
10:42:46AM CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY, LARGE GROUP CARE FACILITY.
10:42:48AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:42:48AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:42:50AM I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:42:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:42:52AM I SAW THAT WE HAVE A REGISTERED APPLICANT, ALVARO RODRIGUEZ.
10:42:58AM IS HE ON?
10:43:01AM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
10:43:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO
10:43:04AM WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 50?
10:43:05AM YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.

10:43:07AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:43:14AM >> YES, SIR.
10:43:15AM GOOD MORNING.
10:43:15AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:43:17AM WE RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF THINGS IS COMING TOWARD EAST
10:43:20AM TAMPA.
10:43:22AM SO IF THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT THIS, MANY OF THE
10:43:28AM RESIDENTS ARE NOT AWARE.
10:43:30AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THAT IS COMING INTO
10:43:33AM THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO ACT AS GOOD NEIGHBORS, GOOD
10:43:37AM STEWARDS, THAT THEY DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT
10:43:40AM THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE BECAUSE NOW WE ARE SPECTATORS.
10:43:44AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WRITTEN AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
10:43:49AM IT'S THEIR PROPERTY.
10:43:51AM IT'S THEIR LOT.
10:43:52AM THEY CAN COME IN AND BE, AGAIN, GOOD NEIGHBORS OR BEING SEEN
10:43:57AM AS VILLAINS TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:44:00AM JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING ENOUGH ENGAGEMENT AND
10:44:03AM CONVERSATION AS PEOPLE NOW COME AND DUMP INSIDE OF EAST
10:44:07AM TAMPA.
10:44:07AM THANK YOU.
10:44:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:08AM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 50?
10:44:12AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:44:14AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.

10:44:16AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:44:17AM AYE.
10:44:18AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:44:19AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, WOULD YOU MIND READING 50?
10:44:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ-24-61, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:44:27AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:44:28AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:44:31AM 3704 AND 3706 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, IN
10:44:35AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
10:44:38AM IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RS-50
10:44:43AM (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) AND CI (COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE)
10:44:47AM TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY,
10:44:51AM LARGE GROUP CARE FACILITY); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:44:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:44:57AM HURTAK.
10:44:57AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:45:01AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:45:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:45:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:45:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:45:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:45:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:45:08AM >> HENDERSON?
10:45:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:45:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.

10:45:12AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:45:15AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:45:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION
10:45:18AM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:45:19AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA -- NO, VIERA. MIRANDA.
10:45:24AM I'M SORRY.
10:45:25AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:45:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:45:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:45:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:45:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:45:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:45:32AM >> HENDERSON?
10:45:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:45:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:45:36AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:45:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:38AM ITEM NUMBER 51.
10:45:42AM >>STEPHANIE POPE: STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:45:45AM ITEM 51 IS REZ-24-79.
10:45:50AM THIS ITEM IS REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:45:52AM 223 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
10:45:55AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED
10:45:59AM DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
10:46:01AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN

10:46:05AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:46:06AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:46:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:46:10AM YES, SIR.
10:46:12AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI HERE REPRESENTING THE
10:46:17AM PETITIONER.
10:46:17AM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:46:20AM APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL.
10:46:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:46:22AM NO.
10:46:23AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 51?
10:46:26AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:46:28AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:46:29AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:46:30AM AYE.
10:46:31AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING 51?
10:46:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 51, FILE REZ-24-79,
10:46:39AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
10:46:41AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:46:43AM 223 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
10:46:46AM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
10:46:48AM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG (COMMERCIAL GENERAL) TO PD
10:46:52AM (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES);
10:46:55AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:46:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.

10:46:58AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:46:59AM ROLL CALL VOTE?
10:47:01AM >> HENDERSON?
10:47:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:47:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:47:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:47:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:47:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:47:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:47:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:47:09AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:47:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, ITEM 52.
10:47:17AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:47:20AM ITEM 52 IS REZ-24-92.
10:47:23AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:47:26AM 4015 EAST 11th AVENUE.
10:47:29AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM-16 TO CI, COMMERCIAL
10:47:34AM INTENSIVE.
10:47:34AM THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST.
10:47:38AM THERE IS NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST.
10:47:42AM THIS IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR THE SECOND READING.
10:47:44AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
10:47:47AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 52?
10:47:53AM ITEM 52 HAS NO APPLICANT HERE OR ONLINE.

10:47:57AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 52?
10:48:00AM WAIT.
10:48:01AM ARE YOU THE APPLICANT, SIR?
10:48:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:48:06AM SAL, SENIOR.
10:48:07AM 5807 MARINER STREET, TAMPA, 33609.
10:48:11AM I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE PROPERTY AT 4015 EAST 11th
10:48:15AM AVENUE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:48:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
10:48:18AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON 52?
10:48:21AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:48:24AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:48:26AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:48:26AM AYE.
10:48:27AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WE LEFT OFF WITH YOU AT 52.
10:48:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER REZ-24-92, ORDINANCE BEING
10:48:35AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
10:48:37AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4015 EAST
10:48:40AM 11th AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
10:48:43AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:48:46AM CLASSIFICATION RM 16 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO CI
10:48:50AM (COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES); PROVIDING AN DEFECT DATE.
10:48:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM
10:48:56AM CLENDENIN.
10:48:56AM ROLL CALL.

10:48:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:48:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:48:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:49:01AM >> HENDERSON?
10:49:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:49:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:49:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:49:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:49:10AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:49:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:14AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:49:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 53.
10:49:18AM >>STEPHANIE POPE: STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:49:20AM ITEM NUMBER 53 IS REZ-24-95.
10:49:24AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:49:27AM 2508 NORTH 58th STREET.
10:49:30AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM 16 TO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
10:49:35AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:49:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:49:37AM NO.
10:49:39AM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 53?
10:49:41AM YES, MA'AM.
10:49:41AM COME ON UP.
10:49:42AM OH.
10:49:43AM WELCOME BACK.

10:49:44AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:49:46AM >> AILEEN ROSARIO, 5827 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:49:51AM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:49:53AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
10:49:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:49:56AM DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
10:50:00AM 53?
10:50:00AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:50:03AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
10:50:04AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:50:04AM AYE.
10:50:05AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:50:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:50:08AM MY PLEASURE TO READ THIS FOR MS. ROSARIO.
10:50:11AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
10:50:15AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:50:18AM 2508 NORTH 58th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
10:50:22AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:50:25AM CLASSIFICATION RM-16 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO IG
10:50:29AM (INDUSTRIAL GENERAL USES); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:50:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:50:37AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:50:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:50:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.

10:50:40AM >> HENDERSON?
10:50:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:50:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:50:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:50:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:50:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:50:46AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:50:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:50:49AM ITEM NUMBER 54.
10:50:53AM >>STEPHANIE POPE: STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:50:55AM ITEM NUMBER 54 IS REZ-24-98.
10:50:59AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:51:01AM 1709 EAST HENRY AVENUE.
10:51:04AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, RESIDENTIAL,
10:51:07AM SINGLE-FAMILY, TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
10:51:10AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:51:13AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:51:15AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:51:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:51:18AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 54?
10:51:21AM ITEM 54 HAS NO APPLICANT.
10:51:27AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 54?
10:51:30AM I SEE NO ONE.
10:51:32AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:51:34AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.

10:51:35AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:51:36AM AYE.
10:51:37AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 54.
10:51:42AM WAIT, COUNCILMAN VIERA, WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE RECORD?
10:51:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, JUST IN THE NORMAL REVIEW OF THE FILE,
10:51:50AM ET CETERA.
10:51:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL PLAY MARTIN SHELBY, ARE YOU READY TO
10:51:56AM VOTE?
10:51:56AM READY AND WILLING.
10:51:57AM I MOVE FILE REZ-24-98 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:52:03AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:52:05AM GENERAL VICINITY OF 1709 EAST HENRY AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF
10:52:08AM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:52:10AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS SH-RS (SEMINOLE
10:52:14AM HEIGHTS, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO SH-PD (SEMINOLE
10:52:18AM HEIGHTS, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
10:52:21AM DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:52:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM
10:52:25AM MIRANDA.
10:52:26AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:52:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:52:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:52:29AM >> HENDERSON?
10:52:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:52:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

10:52:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE]
10:52:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:52:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:52:37AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
10:52:39AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:52:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GARDNER, DO YOU HAVE 55?
10:52:46AM YOU CAME IN AFTER WE SWORE PEOPLE IN.
10:52:49AM IF YOU'VE COME IN SINCE FOR THIS LAST ITEM AND YOU'RE GOING
10:52:54AM TO SPEAK ON IT, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND
10:52:57AM WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN
10:52:59AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:53:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE COHEN ONLINE OR NO?
10:53:07AM >>THE CLERK: HE IS.
10:53:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF HE'S GOING TO SPEAK, WE NEED TO SWEAR
10:53:10AM HIM IN.
10:53:10AM IF NOT -- ALL RIGHT, MR. THOMAS, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:53:13AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:53:16AM ITEM 55 IS REZ 24-112. THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR
10:53:26AM THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 509 SOUTH HYDE PARK AVENUE.
10:53:29AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
10:53:32AM DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL AND OFFICE
10:53:34AM MEDICAL.
10:53:35AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:53:38AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:53:39AM I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:53:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. THOMAS?
10:53:42AM MR. GARDNER, COME ON UP.
10:53:45AM SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:53:46AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF
10:53:49AM TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.
10:53:50AM WE HAD UNANIMOUS APPROVAL AT FIRST READING, BUT COUNCILMAN
10:53:54AM CARLSON DIRECTED US TO GO BACK OUT ONE LAST TIME I BELIEVE
10:53:57AM SPECIFICALLY TO SPANISH TOWN CREEK AND WANTED TO REPORT BACK
10:54:01AM THAT OUTREACH.
10:54:03AM WE HAD MET WITH SPANISH TOWN CREEK ACTUALLY TWICE PRIOR TO
10:54:06AM THE FIRST READING BUT REACHED BACK OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF
10:54:10AM THEY HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
10:54:12AM DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM THEM.
10:54:14AM ALSO REACHED OUT TO -- THIS IS GOING TO BE ALPHABET SOUP --
10:54:19AM HHPI.
10:54:20AM I TALKED TO MARY LOU BAILEY; SHE EXPRESSED NO CONCERNS AT
10:54:23AM ALL.
10:54:24AM REACHED OUT TO HHPNA.
10:54:27AM IF YOU RECALL AT THE HEARING, THEY HAD THEIR LETTER OF NO
10:54:30AM OBJECTION.
10:54:30AM THEY DID NOT RESPOND BACK TO THAT.
10:54:33AM LASTLY, LJ AT TGH MET WITH THE NICE LADY THAT CAME BEFORE AT
10:54:39AM FIRST READING FROM THE PONCE TOWNHOMES HOA, WHICH IS NEXT
10:54:44AM DOOR, AND MET WITH HER ON-SITE.
10:54:48AM THEY WROTE A VERY NICE LETTER.

10:54:49AM I SUBMIT IN THE RECORD.
10:54:50AM PUT IT IN THE QUASI-BOX, BUT I'LL SUBMIT IT TO MARTIN AS
10:54:54AM WELL.
10:54:54AM AGAIN, EXPRESSING THAT THEY HAVE NO OBJECTIONS EITHER.
10:54:57AM JUST WANTED TO REPORT BACK ON THAT OUTREACH SINCE IT WAS
10:55:00AM REQUESTED.
10:55:00AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:55:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:55:04AM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 55?
10:55:08AM SEEING NONE, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION TO
10:55:13AM CLOSE.
10:55:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:55:15AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:55:16AM AYE.
10:55:17AM ITEM 55, YES, MA'AM, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:55:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ-24-112, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
10:55:30AM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 509 SOUTH HYDE PARK
10:55:33AM AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
10:55:36AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
10:55:40AM PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE,
10:55:44AM BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:55:46AM DATE.
10:55:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:55:48AM HURTAK.
10:55:49AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.

10:55:50AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:55:53AM >> HENDERSON?
10:55:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:55:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:55:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:55:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:55:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:55:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:56:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:56:02AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:56:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS MOTION TO ADOPT.
10:56:06AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:56:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:56:08AM THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:56:09AM WE HAVE TO WAIT.
10:56:10AM THERE IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE AND REQUEST TO WITHDRAW.
10:56:15AM WE CAN'T TAKE THOSE UP UNTIL 1:30.
10:56:18AM WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 58, WE HAVE A MEMO HERE WITH ADDITIONAL
10:56:24AM INFORMATION.
10:56:24AM IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO PRESENT?
10:56:25AM YES, MA'AM.
10:56:26AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:56:29AM >> LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:56:30AM I'M HERE FOR ITEM 58, A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ADDING PEDICABS
10:56:35AM TO CURRENT NONMOTORIZED VEHICLE REGULATION CONTAINED IN

10:56:40AM CHAPTER 25.
10:56:41AM I'M HERE FOR ADDITIONAL DETAILS SHOULD YOU NEED ANY.
10:56:45AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
10:56:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:56:49AM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 58?
10:56:53AM THIS IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:56:56AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN FOR THIS.
10:56:58AM I SEE NONE.
10:56:59AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:57:00AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:57:04AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:57:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:57:07AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:57:08AM AYE.
10:57:10AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 58?
10:57:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 58, FILE E2025-8, CH 25.
10:57:27AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
10:57:29AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
10:57:32AM PEDICAB AND NON-MOTORIZED VEHICLE REGULATION; MAKING
10:57:36AM REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCE, CHAPTER 25,
10:57:39AM (TRANSPORTATION); AMENDING SECTION 25-4, DEFINITIONS;
10:57:43AM AMENDING SECTION 25-48, PERMIT TYPES; AMENDING SECTION
10:57:47AM 25-60, RESERVED; AMENDING SECTION 25-61; NONMOTORIZED
10:57:53AM VEHICLE -- PERMIT REQUIRED; ONE PERMIT FOR EACH BUSINESS OR
10:57:57AM OPERATION; PERMIT TO BE ATTACHED TO EACH VEHICLE; AMENDING

10:58:02AM SECTION 25-62, SAME -- APPLICATION FOR PERMIT; APPROVAL,
10:58:08AM DENIAL OF APPLICATION; APPEAL; PERMIT FEE; AMENDING SECTION
10:58:13AM 25-63, SAME -- ADHERENCE TO PLAN SUBMITTED IN APPLICATION
10:58:17AM REQUIRED; AMENDMENTS TO PLAN; MODIFICATIONS TO PLAN BY
10:58:21AM TRANSPORTATION MANAGER; AMENDING SECTION 25-64, SAME --
10:58:26AM RENEWAL OF PERMITS; LOST, DESTROYED PERMITS; PERMITS
10:58:30AM NONTRANSFERABLE; REPLACEMENTS AND SUBSTITUTIONS; DORMANT
10:58:34AM PERMITS; AMENDING SECTION 25-65, SAME, DRIVER'S PERMIT
10:58:38AM REQUIRED; APPLICATIONS; QUALIFICATIONS; ISSUANCE OR DENIAL
10:58:43AM OF PERMIT; DURATION AND RENEWAL; REVOCATION; DISPLAY OF
10:58:47AM PERMIT; AMENDING SECTION 25-66, SAME, BUSINESS TAX; AMENDING
10:58:53AM SECTION 25-67, SAME, LIABILITY INSURANCE REQUIRED; FORM,
10:58:57AM AMOUNT AND COVERAGE; APPROVAL; AMENDING AND RENUMBERING
10:59:01AM SECTION 25-187 TO SECTION 25-60, NONMOTORIZED VEHICLES;
10:59:06AM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
10:59:08AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
10:59:11AM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:59:15AM IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:59:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:59:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:59:21AM >> CLENDENIN?
10:59:22AM HENDERSON?
10:59:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:59:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

10:59:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:59:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:59:28AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN BEING
10:59:32AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:59:33AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 6, 2025,
10:59:37AM AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 EAST KENNEDY
10:59:41AM BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
10:59:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:47AM YES, MA'AM.

10:59:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST -- MY WONDERFUL AIDE, KELLY SHARP -- I
11:00:01AM KNOW WE TECHNICALLY HAVE ITEM 70, BUT WE HAVE A MEMO THAT I
11:00:05AM DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO READ THAT SAYS VERY
11:00:08AM CLEARLY THAT WHILE THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST HAS NOW BEEN
11:00:12AM REVIEWED PURSUANT TO THE CODE PROCESS, CITY STAFF AT THE
11:00:16AM JANUARY 23, 2025 MEETING REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE OF THIS
11:00:19AM MATTER TO SPRING 2026 FOR FOLLOWING REASON: THE PROPERTY
11:00:23AM ISSUED THE EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX IS CURRENTLY
11:00:27AM UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND GENERATED SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN THE
11:00:29AM SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
11:00:30AM THE CONTINUANCE WAS REQUESTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING
11:00:32AM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PROVIDE INPUT
11:00:35AM AS TO THE NAMING OF THE COMPLEX AND THE FACILITIES THERE IN.
11:00:41AM CITY'S ENGAGEMENT AND PARTNERSHIP STAFF CAN WORK WITH
11:00:44AM COUNCIL TO SOLICIT COMMUNITY INPUT TO HAVE COUNCIL TO ENGAGE
11:00:48AM THE COMMUNITY BEFORE MAKING A FINAL DETERMINATION.
11:00:50AM THIS IS FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
11:00:52AM SOUNDS LIKE WE ALREADY --
11:00:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DATE WAS THAT AGAIN?
11:00:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JANUARY 23.
11:00:58AM THEY REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE, AND IT SOUND LIKE WE GRANTED
11:01:01AM IT.
11:01:01AM NO, WE DID NOT GRANT IT.
11:01:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS FEELEY IS HERE.
11:01:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAD A CONTINUANCE UNTIL TODAY.
11:01:09AM THEY ARE ASKING FOR ANOTHER CONTINUANCE?
11:01:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AT THE JANUARY 23 MEETING, REQUESTED A
11:01:14AM CONTINUANCE OF THIS MATTER TO SPRING 2026.
11:01:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS FEELEY.
11:01:19AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:01:21AM ABBYE FEELEY.
11:01:22AM WE ASKED FOR THAT AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON MADE A MOTION
11:01:25AM TO BRING IT BACK.
11:01:26AM YOU THOUGHT WE HAD A TYPO IN THE MEMO THAT WOULD NEEDED TO
11:01:28AM BE FEBRUARY 6.
11:01:29AM WE ASKED FOR FEBRUARY 5 OF 2026.
11:01:33AM AND THAT IS WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE TO BRING IT BACK TODAY
11:01:37AM WITH NO FURTHER CONTINUANCES.
11:01:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, OKAY.
11:01:40AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS WHY A SUBSEQUENT MEMO WITH
11:01:43AM ADDITIONAL CONTEXT WAS PROVIDED TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT
11:01:47AM ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
11:01:49AM AND THE ALLOWANCE FOR US TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
11:01:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GET TO 70 SOON.
11:01:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT WE COULD SOLVE IT QUICKLY.
11:02:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I APPRECIATE IT.
11:02:01AM PER COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S REQUEST, 22 AND 68 WILL BE TAKEN
11:02:07AM FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORT.
11:02:08AM BUT DO YOU NEED A FEW MORE MINUTES FOR CHIEF TRIPP TO COME
11:02:11AM IN?
11:02:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: I -- YOU WANTED THAT FIRST?
11:02:18AM I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF TRIPP --
11:02:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE DO IT AFTER LUNCH?
11:02:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW MR. STOCCO WANTS TO BE HERE.
11:02:26AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS AVAILABILITY AS WELL.
11:02:27AM MY AIDE ASKED YOU FOR THAT?
11:02:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ASKED IF WE TAKE STAFF REPORTS BEFORE
11:02:33AM LUNCH.
11:02:33AM WE HAVE 58 MINUTES.
11:02:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
11:02:38AM A REQUEST FROM YOUR OFFICE TO BE HEARD FIRST UNDER STAFF
11:02:42AM REPORTS WITH ITEM 22 AND 67 TOGETHER.
11:02:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU NEED MORE TIME?
11:02:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, WE CAN DELAY IT A
11:02:50AM BIT.
11:02:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: DID YOU NEED MORE TIME?
11:02:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GET THROUGH THESE OTHER THINGS FIRST AND
11:02:56AM BREAK FOR LUNCH, THIS WILL BE A LONG CONVERSATION.
11:02:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MEAN -- SO --
11:03:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS CHIEF TRIPP AVAILABLE NOW?
11:03:06AM SHE IS ON HER WAY?
11:03:07AM OKAY.
11:03:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE AN HOUR BEFORE LUNCH.
11:03:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT SHE IS NOT HERE YET.
11:03:11AM LET'S START WITH 60 AND SEE HOW WE GO.
11:03:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 70 --
11:03:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:03:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, WHILE WE AWAIT THE ARRIVAL OF
11:03:22AM CHIEF TRIPP, IS IT ALL RIGHT IF WE TAKE 60 AND KEEP GOING
11:03:26AM ON?
11:03:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: 60, I DO -- THAT IS THE -- THE PACKAGE MISS
11:03:31AM FEELEY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT.
11:03:32AM I PLAN ON SPEAKING ABOUT THAT FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
11:03:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS FEELEY, AS WE AWAIT FOR CHIEF
11:03:39AM TRIPP, WE WILL START JUST TO KEEP THINGS GOING.
11:03:40AM ITEM 60.
11:03:42AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF
11:03:46AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
11:03:48AM ITEM NUMBER 60 ON YOUR AGENDA THIS MORNING IS A AGREEMENT
11:03:52AM BETWEEN THE CITY AND ICF FOR $3.2 MILLION.
11:03:57AM THIS IS THE SHIP MONEY AND ALSO SOME OTHER GRANT FUNDS THAT
11:04:03AM COME IN, $3 MILLION IN SHIP AND $313,000 FOR US TO BE ABLE
11:04:07AM TO ASSIST WITH HURRICANE RECOVERY.
11:04:09AM I EXPLAIN THESE FUNDS TO YOU EARLIER, I BELIEVE, LAST MONTH
11:04:19AM OF THE SHIP FUNDS, $3 MILLION.
11:04:21AM SET ASIDES 30% FOR 50% AMI.
11:04:25AM 30% FOR 80% AMI.
11:04:28AM AND THE REMAINDER COULD BE AT THE 140 AMI.
11:04:32AM AND I DID PROVIDE IN THE MEMO THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS
11:04:36AM ITEM, THE AREA MEDIAN INCOMES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE AMIs SO
11:04:41AM YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS WILL BE OF THE RESIDENTS WE
11:04:45AM CAN SUPPORT WITH THESE FUNDS.
11:04:46AM WHAT THIS DOES IS, THIS GETS US INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ICF
11:04:50AM SO THAT WE CAN NOW FINALIZE THE ASPECTS OF EXPENDING THESE
11:04:56AM FUNDS AND GETTING THEM TO THE RESIDENTS.
11:04:59AM ONCE YOU SIGN THAT TODAY, WE ALREADY HAD A CALL WITH ICF
11:05:05AM YESTERDAY TO EVEN -- TO START FINALIZING THE PREAPP ITEMS
11:05:09AM AND THEN THE FINALIZED APPLICATION ITEMS.
11:05:12AM AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT, I CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU ON THAT AS
11:05:15AM WELL.
11:05:15AM BUT WE WILL ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS AGREEMENT
11:05:18AM THIS MORNING IN ORDER TO HAVE THESE FUNDS EXTENDED
11:05:25AM BY A THIRD PARTY.
11:05:26AM LIKE OUR ARPA FUNDS.
11:05:28AM WE DID THIS WITH ERNST & YOUNG.
11:05:32AM WE HAVE PEOPLE CALL IN THAT SAID THEY ARE IN TAMPA, BUT NOT
11:05:37AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:05:38AM WE PARTNERED WITH THE COUNTY WHEN WE DID THIS WITH COVID,
11:05:41AM BUT A WAY FOR US TO CONTINUE ON OUR REGULAR HOUSING PROGRAMS
11:05:43AM AND HAVE SUPPORT FROM THIS THIRD PARTY.
11:05:45AM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:05:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:05:49AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:05:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
11:05:54AM AND MISS FEELEY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
11:05:58AM WE WORKED TOGETHER ON THIS FOR SOME TIME.
11:06:00AM I REALLY, REALLY DO -- YOU WORKED A LOT ON THIS.
11:06:02AM AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATED IT.
11:06:04AM I WANT TO THANK -- I DIDN'T ASK ANYBODY FROM NORTH TAMPA TO
11:06:08AM COME, JUST BECAUSE I -- I THINK THE THING SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
11:06:11AM IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE VIDEOS OR YOU HAVE GONE OUT TO NORTH
11:06:14AM TAMPA AND YOU SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE OR
11:06:17AM SEEN ANY OF THE INTERVIEWS WHETHER IN THE MEDIA, THINGS THAT
11:06:20AM I HAVE DONE, ETC., WITH PEOPLE OUT THERE.
11:06:23AM THESE PEOPLE ARE REALLY HURTING, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO
11:06:26AM THANK OBVIOUSLY BETH KEENEY WHO -- WHO SHE DOESN'T GET PAID
11:06:31AM A DIME.
11:06:32AM AND SHE HAS BEEN WORKING SO HARD WHO CAME OUT HERE.
11:06:37AM AND I MET WITH HER AND HER HUSBAND WHO ARE REALLY, REALLY
11:06:40AM GOOD PEOPLE.
11:06:40AM I WANT TO THANK YOU MISS FEELEY AND THE MAYOR AND THE
11:06:44AM ADMINISTRATION FOR WORKING ON THIS.
11:06:46AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABOUT 100 AND REFERRED TO
11:06:53AM THIS, ABOUT 125 DAYS POST MILTON, AND THIS WILL RADICALLY
11:06:58AM CHANGE THE FACE OF NORTH TAMPA, A WORKING-CLASS BLUE COLLAR
11:07:02AM COMMUNITY IF WE DON'T INTERVENE LIBERALLY.
11:07:04AM I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
11:07:05AM I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
11:07:08AM I HAD ORIGINALLY MADE A MOTION OCTOBER 17 ABOUT A WEEK AFTER
11:07:12AM MILTON CAME TO HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA LOOK AT SPENDING FUNDS
11:07:16AM FOR HOUSING AND OTHER ASSISTANCE, BECAUSE I KNOW FEMA
11:07:21AM CERTAINLY DOES THINGS.
11:07:22AM AND WE APPRECIATE FEMA, BUT FEMA IS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY.
11:07:26AM LIKE I ALWAYS SAY IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUY A SUIT, RIGHT,
11:07:30AM FEMA WILL GIVE YOU THE TIE, THE BELT, MAYBE THE PANTS AND
11:07:33AM YOU GOT TO GET THE REST.
11:07:34AM WHEN YOU LOST EVERYTHING IN A HOUSE AND YOU ARE A WELDER OR
11:07:37AM A TEACHER OR A FIRE FIGHTER AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT
11:07:42AM $130,000 REBUILDING COST, THAT REMAINDER OF THAT SUIT COSTS
11:07:46AM A WHOLE LOT.
11:07:46AM IF GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
11:07:48AM SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THE
11:07:52AM PEOPLE -- AND I AM TALKING OF NORTH TAMPA, THE CITY OF
11:07:55AM TAMPA.
11:07:55AM WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER AREAS.
11:07:57AM WE HEARD A LOT FROM OUR FRIENDS IN SOUTH TAMPA AND THE
11:08:01AM TERRIBLE HITS THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN AND WERE OBVIOUSLY
11:08:04AM SUPPORTIVE 100% THERE.
11:08:06AM YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO, THEY ARE REALLY GOING
11:08:09AM THROUGH HELL STILL.
11:08:10AM YOU ARE ABOUT FOUR MONTHS PAST THIS HURRICANE, PAST MILTON,
11:08:14AM WHICH WAS UNEXPECTED, VERY UNEXPECTED.
11:08:18AM I REMEMBER -- I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS DURING THE PUMPS, BUT
11:08:22AM TALKING TO THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING WHY DON'T WE HAVE
11:08:26AM SANDBAG LOCATIONS.
11:08:27AM BECAUSE IT IS NOT A FLOOD ZONE.
11:08:30AM NOT UNREASONABLE, BY THE WAY.
11:08:32AM NOT DOING THAT TO POINT THE FINGER.
11:08:34AM BUT NOBODY ANTICIPATED FLOODING OUT THERE, MOST OF ALL, THE
11:08:37AM PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THERE.
11:08:38AM FOR ME, THIS SHOULD REALLY BE JUST THE BEGINNING ON THE
11:08:41AM COMMITMENT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO THIS AREA TO ASSIST THEM.
11:08:44AM IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NORTH TAMPA IS WHAT I CALL THE
11:08:49AM BLUE COLLAR AND WORKING-CLASS BACKBONE OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
11:08:53AM IT IS A PLACE FILLED WITH FIRST RESPONDERS, TEACHERS, WITH
11:08:56AM WELDERS, WITH ELECTRICIANS, NURSES AND ETC.
11:09:00AM AND ALSO, BY THE WAY, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELIEVE
11:09:04AM THAT GOVERNMENT WILL FIGHT FOR THEM.
11:09:06AM WHICH IS WHY SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.
11:09:08AM YOU SEE THAT NATIONALLY.
11:09:10AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
11:09:14AM A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE TONIGHT BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT WILL
11:09:16AM FIGHT FOR THEM.
11:09:17AM I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES IN NORTH TAMPA, THE MANY, MANY, MANY
11:09:20AM PEOPLE THAT THINK TALK TO HAVE TAKEN LIFE'S WORST HITS OFTEN
11:09:24AM BELIEVED THAT.
11:09:24AM SO THIS, I THINK, IS A REAL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
11:09:29AM BECAUSE I KNOW -- AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL IS FILLED WITH GOOD
11:09:33AM PEOPLE WITH BIG HEARTS AND COMPASSIONATE.
11:09:36AM AND I AM PRETTY SURE THAT WILL GET UNANIMOUS APPROVAL, BUT
11:09:42AM THE ISSUE OF NORTH TAMPA IS NOT GOING AWAY.
11:09:44AM NOT GOING AWAY ON A NUMBER OF LEVELS.
11:09:46AM WE ARE TALKING DIFFERENTLY -- I KNOW I JUST MET WITH THE
11:09:49AM CONSULTANT THAT WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO GET FOR THE
11:09:52AM INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
11:09:53AM THE ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY IS ONE ISSUE, BUT THE ISSUE OF,
11:09:57AM NUMBER ONE, DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR PEOPLE LIKE MISS SELF
11:10:02AM WHO CAME HERE.
11:10:02AM I THINK OF THE TRAGEDIES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH.
11:10:06AM MY FRIEND, GWEN TORREZ, THAT SOME OF US MAY HAVE SEEN ON THE
11:10:10AM NEWS.
11:10:10AM A WONDERFUL WOMAN, WHO HAS AN AUTISTIC SON AND GRANDSON.
11:10:14AM SHE HAD A SENSORY ROOM IN HER HOUSE THAT SHE HAD TAILORED TO
11:10:19AM HER GRANDSON WHO SHE TOOK CARE OF AND SHE WAS FLOODED OUT
11:10:23AM AND GWEN HAD TO MOVE BECAUSE SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE
11:10:26AM ANYMORE, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY HER
11:10:30AM MORTGAGE.
11:10:30AM AND SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY HER NEW RENT.
11:10:34AM SHE GETS SOME HELP FROM FEMA AND TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT WILL
11:10:37AM COST THEM $150,000.
11:10:39AM GOTTEN $5,000, $10,000, $20,000, FAR OFF FROM WHAT THEY
11:10:44AM NEED.
11:10:44AM AND, AGAIN, THESE ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
11:10:47AM TO ME, THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN TAMPA.
11:10:49AM WE TALK A LOT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING
11:10:53AM AND MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA, POST COVID, DOESN'T
11:10:56AM TURN INTO MIAMI AND PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING-CLASS AND THE
11:10:59AM MIDDLE CLASS AND PEOPLE WORKING FOR AND MARGINALIZING AND
11:11:04AM STRUGGLING TO BE MIDDLE CLASS TO HAVE A SHOT OF HAVING A
11:11:08AM HOUSE.
11:11:08AM NORTH TAMPA IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE A SHOT AT
11:11:11AM IT.
11:11:11AM AND LIKE MISS SELF NOTED AND MISS KEENE NOTED, THIS IS
11:11:17AM SOMETHING THAT CAN RADICALLY TRANSFORM THE FACE OF NORTH
11:11:21AM TAMPA.
11:11:21AM WE HAVE TO HAVE A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO THIS.
11:11:25AM I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
11:11:26AM I HOPE THAT PEOPLE STRONGLY SUPPORT IT.
11:11:27AM BUT TO ME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD JUST BE THE BE
11:11:32AM BEGINNING.
11:11:32AM CAN I HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE, MR. CHAIR?
11:11:35AM NO?
11:11:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, ONE MORE MINUTE.
11:11:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU MAY HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE, SIR.
11:11:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW.
11:11:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:11:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: GEE WHIZ -- LIKE I WAS SAYING.
11:11:45AM AND IF I GO ON ABOUT THIS, IT IS BECAUSE I REPRESENT THIS
11:11:48AM AREA.
11:11:49AM AND I AM VERY, VERY -- I AM GOING TO BE HONEST -- LOOK, I
11:11:53AM WILL BE HONEST.
11:11:54AM I HAVE A CHIP ON MY SHOULDER ABOUT NORTH TAMPA.
11:11:57AM I DO.
11:11:57AM BECAUSE NORTH TAMPA DOESN'T GET THE KIND OF ATTENTION AND
11:12:00AM RESPECT THAT OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY DO.
11:12:04AM WE SEE THAT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
11:12:06AM WE WILL SEE THAT WITH FIRE, WHERE WE HAD A STATION IN THE
11:12:09AM CITY OF TAMPA, STATION 13, OFF BUSCH BOULEVARD.
11:12:12AM HAS ONE OUT OF 23 STATIONS, TOOK ONE OUT OF SEVEN CALLS HERE
11:12:18AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:12:19AM THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT NORTH TAMPA HAS TO DEAL WITH.
11:12:21AM THIS AREA GOT AN UNANTICIPATED KICK RIGHT IN THE FACE.
11:12:25AM AND IT HAS TAKEN US 125 DAYS TO GET MERE FOR $3 MILLION.
11:12:29AM SO IF I AM A LITTLE BIT EMOTIONAL ABOUT THAT, IF I HAVE A
11:12:33AM CHIP ON MY SHOULDER ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, I GOT CAUSE.
11:12:36AM THANK YOU.
11:12:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:12:38AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:12:39AM AND HURTAK AND CARLSON.
11:12:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE COUNCIL
11:12:44AM MEMBER VIERA'S ADVOCACY TO THE DISTRICT HE REPRESENTS.
11:12:47AM IT IS ADMIRABLE AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU
11:12:51AM REPRESENT A DISTRICT.
11:12:52AM FIGHT LIKE HELL FOR YOUR DISTRICT.
11:12:55AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:12:56AM I AM ELECTED CITYWIDE AND THE ACT BY GOD AND HURRICANES WERE
11:13:01AM DEVASTATING FOR SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS AND WORKING-CLASS
11:13:04AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:13:04AM PEOPLE FORGET THERE ARE AREAS -- YOU KNOW, PALMETTO BEACH.
11:13:07AM WE HAVE AREAS SOUTH OF GANDY.
11:13:09AM YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE TALK OUTSIDE THE CITY -- THE CITY
11:13:13AM DISTRICTS ALONG THE RIVER AND A LOT OF WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE
11:13:16AM JUST HORRIBLY HARMED.
11:13:18AM I, TOO, WAS UP IN FOREST HILLS RIGHT AFTER THE STORM, AND I
11:13:23AM TOURED FOLKS' HOUSES AND WENT TO MY CAR AND CRIED WHEN I
11:13:26AM WENT THROUGH A FAMILY'S HOUSE WITH A MOTHER, FATHER AND KID.
11:13:30AM AND THEY DID NOT HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE.
11:13:32AM THEY -- THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO GO ANYWHERE.
11:13:34AM DIDN'T HAVE THE HELP AND DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AT THAT
11:13:37AM TIME AND THEY WERE LIVING IN A FLOODED HOME WITH EVERYTHING
11:13:39AM SOGGY ON MATTRESSES THAT WERE ELEVATED AND ONLY -- I WILL
11:13:45AM CRY RIGHT NOW THINKING ABOUT IT, IT WAS SO BAD.
11:13:47AM AN AWFUL SITUATION.
11:13:49AM UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY OF TAMPA WE ARE ONLY SO BIG, SO MUCH
11:13:52AM RESOURCES AND SO MUCH OF THIS IS WHERE WE ARE DEPENDENT.
11:13:55AM THIS IS THE THING OF THE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT.
11:13:57AM YOU KNOW, WHY WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS THE
11:13:59AM GOVERNMENT -- YOU KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TO STAND
11:14:01AM UP TO EMERGENCIES.
11:14:02AM WE HAVE SHARED -- WE HAVE SHARED RESOURCES TO SHARE THE
11:14:05AM BURDEN OF THESE TYPE OF STORMS.
11:14:07AM YOU KNOW FEMA -- THEY HAVE THE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE FOR THE
11:14:10AM SHORT-TERM STUFF AND DIFFICULT TO GET THE COMMUNICATION OUT
11:14:13AM RIGHT AWAY PART OF WHAT WE SAW AFTER THESE HURRICANES IS
11:14:17AM WHEN WE STOOD UP AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT DID -- TRIED TO
11:14:20AM COORDINATE AND CONNECT, AND I THINK US AS MEMBERS OF
11:14:24AM COUNCIL, WE TRY TO CONNECT COMMUNITY TO RESOURCES THAT WERE
11:14:26AM AVAILABLE.
11:14:27AM AND I THINK IT IS ADMIRABLE.
11:14:29AM I THINK THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS REALLY RISEN ABOVE AND BEYOND
11:14:33AM LEVEL OF EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT A CITY CAN REASONABLY BE
11:14:36AM EXPECTED TO DO WITH SOMETHING AS DEVASTATING AS AN ACT OF
11:14:40AM GOD AND THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE BACK-TO-BACK STORMS.
11:14:43AM ON TOP OF THE PREVIOUS RAIN EVENTS WE HAD PRIOR THAT CREATED
11:14:48AM SOME OF THIS -- SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
11:14:50AM AGAIN, THIS, I THINK, WAS VERY CREATIVE.
11:14:55AM I APPLAUD STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S ADVOCACY FOR THIS
11:14:59AM AND STAFF TO DIG DEEP BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU GOT ALL THESE OTHER
11:15:03AM PROGRAMS IN FEDERAL AND STATE BUT NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING
11:15:06AM THAT THE CITY IS EQUIPPED TO DO, BUT THEY DUG DEEP.
11:15:08AM REALLY SCRATCHED -- SCRATCHED EVERYTHING THEY COULD FIND TO
11:15:12AM FIND THESE RESOURCES.
11:15:13AM OBVIOUSLY NOT ENOUGH.
11:15:14AM I MEAN 100 TIMES THIS IS NOT ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE FOR THE
11:15:18AM FOLKS THAT HAVE LOST THINGS AND THE NEED AND THE HURT THAT
11:15:22AM IS EXISTED IN THE CITY.
11:15:23AM BUT AT LEAST IT IS SOMETHING.
11:15:25AM AGAIN, I APPLAUD STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
11:15:27AM I OBVIOUSLY -- I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL IS
11:15:31AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT THING TO DO.
11:15:34AM BUT THANK YOU.
11:15:34AM AND I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF HURT IN THE CITY.
11:15:36AM AND I FEEL BAD FOR EVERYONE.
11:15:38AM AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO OVERCOME THIS.
11:15:41AM AND WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED.
11:15:43AM WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA THERE
11:15:46AM STEP UP AND DO THEIR FAIR SHARE TO HELP PUT SOME OF THESE
11:15:51AM PEOPLE TO RIGHT AND MOVE FORWARD AND REBUILD OUR CITY.
11:15:53AM THANK YOU.
11:15:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CARLSON AND
11:16:00AM MIRANDA.
11:16:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO COMMEND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FOR
11:16:02AM HIS ADVOCACY ON THIS AND AN INCREDIBLE ISSUE.
11:16:06AM I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MISS FEELEY AND REALLY WHAT I AM
11:16:09AM HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:16:10AM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOUR OFFICE HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY
11:16:13AM TO FIND SHIP FUNDING AND RE-CREATING IT WAS REALLY
11:16:16AM WONDERFUL.
11:16:17AM AND YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES THAT DOES TAKE A
11:16:19AM LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
11:16:20AM CAN YOU COME AND SPEAK TO WHAT THE RESIDENTS CAN EXPECT
11:16:25AM COMING FORWARD?
11:16:27AM A TIMELINE FOR HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE THIS -- THIS PARTNER TO
11:16:32AM COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, A PHONE NUMBER FOR FOLKS TO REACH
11:16:36AM OUT TO.
11:16:37AM BECAUSE THE QUESTION I KEEP GETTING ASKED IS WHAT IS NEXT.
11:16:43AM THIS WILL PROVIDE US WITH WHAT COMES NEXT.
11:16:44AM AND I THINK THIS WILL MAKE THE COMMUNITY FEELING BETTER AND
11:16:47AM WILL ALSO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO EXPECT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT
11:16:50AM GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW.
11:16:51AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: BUT I AM HOPING THAT IT WILL HAPPEN VERY
11:16:56AM SOON.
11:16:56AM I WAS ON A CALL THIS MORNING ACTUALLY WHEN WE COULD GET THAT
11:17:00AM SCHEDULE FINALIZED.
11:17:02AM I DO NOT HAVE THAT FOR YOU THIS MORNING OR I WOULD BE VERY
11:17:05AM EAGER TO SHARE IT WITH YOU.
11:17:06AM SO, LIKE I SAID, WE ALREADY HAD A CALL WITH THE COMPANY
11:17:10AM YESTERDAY AS TO OUTLINING THOSE NEXT STEPS.
11:17:13AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I HOPE WE WERE WORKING ON FOLLOW-UP WITH
11:17:20AM THAT THIS MORNING.
11:17:21AM THAT IS WHY I AM LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION THAT CAME IN.
11:17:26AM BY MARCH 15, I MEAN, ABOUT A MONTH FROM TODAY, STARTING THE
11:17:30AM PREAPP SCREENING.
11:17:31AM DO YOU LIVE IN THE CITY?
11:17:33AM OKAY.
11:17:33AM YOU KNOW, ARE YOU INCOME ELIGIBLE?
11:17:36AM OR WHAT IS YOUR INCOME?
11:17:39AM THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
11:17:40AM THE INTENTION A VERY SHORT PREAPPLICATION SCREENING THAT
11:17:43AM WILL THEN BECOME THE FULL APPLICATION ONCE YOU PASS THOSE
11:17:47AM FIRST FIVE QUESTIONS.
11:17:48AM AND WE WOULD GO FROM THERE.
11:17:50AM SO WHAT I NEED IS ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO WORK WITH ICF TO GET
11:17:56AM THAT SCHEDULE FINALIZED TO COME IN HERE AND TELL YOU.
11:17:59AM YES, THERE WILL BE A PHONE NUMBER, BUT I THINK THAT IS ONE
11:18:02AM OF THE THINGS WHILE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS BEEN PASSIONATE
11:18:07AM PUSHING THIS, I COME BACK TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO PUT OUT
11:18:10AM SOMETHING THAT IS HALF-BAKED BECAUSE THAT IS NOT FAIR TO OUR
11:18:14AM RESIDENT AND I AM STILL STANDING ON THAT POSITION.
11:18:16AM SO I AM GOING TO GET THOSE DETAILS, AND I WILL GET THEM BACK
11:18:20AM TO YOU.
11:18:20AM BUT I HOPE BY MARCH 15 AT THE LATEST -- AT THE LATEST, APRIL
11:18:25AM 1st, TO HAVE A FULL SYSTEM UP AND OPERATING WHERE THEY ARE
11:18:30AM CALLING IN.
11:18:31AM AND WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT HAVING A COMMUNITY NIGHT OR A
11:18:35AM WEEKLY NIGHT AT HANNA.
11:18:36AM IF PEOPLE NEED TO WALK IN AND GET ASSISTANCE DIRECTLY FROM
11:18:40AM OUR STAFF IN FILLING OUT THE APPLICATIONS OR THEY DON'T HAVE
11:18:43AM A COMPUTER.
11:18:43AM WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL AS A
11:18:48AM COMMUNICATIONS PLAN TO ENSURE THAT THE INFORMATION IS
11:18:51AM GETTING OUT TO EVERYONE.
11:18:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:18:54AM AND THEN ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION.
11:18:57AM AS WE ARE WAITING FOR THIS, WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION CAN
11:19:01AM PEOPLE BEGIN TO GATHER?
11:19:03AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO THESE FUNDS ARE RIGHT NOW GOING TO
11:19:06AM SUPPORT MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.
11:19:08AM I THINK ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA JUST
11:19:13AM SPOKE ABOUT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE PAYING
11:19:16AM TWO RENTS.
11:19:17AM THEY ARE PAYING THEIR MORTGAGE AND PAYING TO LIVE AS WELL.
11:19:22AM THIS WILL ALLOW MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE UP TO $5,000.
11:19:25AM ALSO REPAIRS.
11:19:26AM IF YOU HIRED A CONTRACT AND ALREADY PAID YOUR REPAIRS AND
11:19:30AM PERMITTED THEM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOME REIMBURSEMENT
11:19:33AM ON THAT.
11:19:34AM WE ARE WORKING OUT THE TIME PERIOD FOR THAT.
11:19:36AM SO PEOPLE KNOW.
11:19:38AM AND THEN ALSO, INSURANCE DEDUCTIBLES.
11:19:43AM IF YOU HAD TO PAY YOUR DEDUCTIBLE.
11:19:46AM AND THERE WILL BE A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP STATEMENT THEY WILL
11:19:49AM NEED TO BE FILLING OUT TO SHOW.
11:19:51AM AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, GIVEN THESE ARE SHIP FUNDS AND
11:19:56AM SHIP DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS, THOSE INCOME QUALIFICATIONS AND
11:20:03AM THAT'S THE -- THE CHART IS IN THERE THAT WE DO HAVE CERTAIN
11:20:07AM AMOUNTS OF THESE FUND THAT BY THE STATE, THE WAY THE FUNDS
11:20:12AM HAVE COME FROM THE STATE, THEY HAVE TO GO TO INDIVIDUALS OF
11:20:15AM CERTAIN INCOMES.
11:20:16AM AND THEN UP TO IT THE 140, A PORTION OF THAT THAT IS
11:20:21AM UNRESTRICTED BUT RESTRICTIVE UP TO THE 140 AMI.
11:20:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT FOR TELLING WHAT PEOPLE CAN
11:20:29AM EXPECT.
11:20:29AM BUT AS THEY ARE WAITING, WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION DO
11:20:33AM PEOPLE NEED TO BE GATHERING.
11:20:35AM SOUND LIKE THEY NEED TO GATHER THEIR MORTGAGE INFORMATION.
11:20:37AM THEY NEED TO HAVE RECEIPTS.
11:20:42AM >> INCOME STATEMENTS.
11:20:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GATHER ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL INFORMATION
11:20:48AM SURROUNDING THIS.
11:20:49AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
11:20:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONLY THING ADDITIONALLY I WANT TO MENTION IS
11:20:53AM THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING IN FEBRUARY WHERE WE ARE
11:20:56AM TALKING ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WAS LEFT OVER FROM FY '24.
11:20:59AM AND SO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER TIME THAT WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT WE
11:21:04AM CAN POSSIBLY -- IF WE CAN PUT MORE MONEY TOWARD THIS.
11:21:06AM SO THANK YOU.
11:21:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND MIRANDA.
11:21:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: MISS FEELEY, FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SO FAR,
11:21:14AM PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THINK YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN NEW TAMPA
11:21:16AM OR NORTH TAMPA TO QUALIFY FOR THIS.
11:21:19AM REQUEST YOU STATE ON THE RECORD --
11:21:20AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THESE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE CITYWIDE.
11:21:23AM YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE HAD STORM DAMAGE CLEARLY.
11:21:27AM AND WE HAVE -- PER OUR POST-STORM ASSESSMENT, WE HAVE IDEAS
11:21:31AM AND WE KNOW, BECAUSE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND INSPECTION
11:21:35AM STAFF DID GO THROUGH THE CITY, LOT BY LOT, AND WE HAVE A
11:21:41AM WINDSHIELD SURVEY OF THOSE AREAS THAT WERE HIT.
11:21:44AM YOU CAN'T -- IF YOU ARE IN A HIGH AND DRY AREA, THIS ISN'T
11:21:47AM -- I MEAN WE HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS FOR.
11:21:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW.
11:21:54AM THE MAXIMUM -- FOR PEOPLE WHO APPLY FOR THIS, MAXIMUM FOR
11:21:57AM RENT IS $5,000.
11:21:58AM IS THAT TOTAL OR PER MONTH?
11:22:01AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT WILL BE TOTAL.
11:22:02AM THE MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.
11:22:03AM NOT RENTAL.
11:22:04AM THIS IS NOT FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
11:22:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR REPAIR, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM?
11:22:10AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT NOW THE MAXIMUM FOR REPAIR WILL
11:22:13AM $20,000.
11:22:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: $20,000.
11:22:14AM CAN THEY GET BOTH OR JUST ONE?
11:22:18AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I BELIEVE THEY CAN GET BOTH.
11:22:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT ABOUT THE DEDUCTIBLE, WHAT IS THE
11:22:24AM MAXIMUM ON THAT?
11:22:26AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE DEDUCTIBLE IS $10,000.
11:22:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNEW IF YOU
11:22:31AM DON'T LIVE IN NORTH TAMPA OR NEW TAMPA, YOU CAN -- THERE
11:22:36AM WERE PEOPLE AFFECTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:22:37AM THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE AFFECTED IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:22:41AM AND CONTRARY TO SOME PEOPLE'S PERCEPTION OF SOUTH TAMPA,
11:22:44AM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BELOW 100% AMI.
11:22:48AM WE HAD SOME HERE LAST WEEK AND ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF GANDY,
11:22:55AM BUT ALSO WEST OF DALE MABRY, TOWARD GANDY, THERE ARE
11:22:59AM HUNDREDS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE -- LIVE BELOW THE
11:23:03AM POVERTY LINE.
11:23:05AM AND MANY OF THEM DON'T HAVE INSURANCE.
11:23:07AM PORT TAMPA, THEIR HISTORIC AFRICAN-AMERICAN FOLKS THERE
11:23:12AM WHOSE HOUSES THEY HAVE INHERITED MULTIPLE GENERATIONS
11:23:15AM AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE BECAUSE -- BECAUSE THEY HAVE
11:23:18AM OWNED THE HOUSE.
11:23:19AM BECAUSE THEIR GREAT GRANDFATHER AND GREAT GRANDPARENTS OWNED
11:23:23AM THE HOUSE.
11:23:24AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CAREFUL NOT TO JUST TARGET ONE
11:23:28AM AREA.
11:23:28AM AND ALSO NURSES AND POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE FIGHTERS.
11:23:33AM NICK STOCCO LIVES SOUTH OF GANDY.
11:23:36AM AND THERE ARE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE IN OUR MILITARY AND
11:23:39AM RETIRED FROM OUR MILITARY WHO LOST EVERYTHING.
11:23:41AM AND MANY OF THEM LIVE -- LIVE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.
11:23:45AM I AM DISAPPOINTED WITH THE MAYOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION THEY
11:23:47AM HAVEN'T SPENT MORE TIME IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:23:49AM THEY SPENT MOST OF THE TIME IN NEW TAMPA AND TO PROMOTE A
11:23:55AM $130 MILLION PROJECT IN SOUTH HOWARD THAT WE KNOW HOW IS NOT
11:23:58AM GOING TO WORK.
11:23:59AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PAY ATTENTION TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
11:24:02AM REALLY BARELY SURVIVING AND NOT GOING TO SURVIVE IN SOUTH
11:24:08AM TAMPA.
11:24:08AM TO THE POINT ABOUT SANDBAGS.
11:24:10AM A GOOD POINT.
11:24:11AM SHOULD HAVE BEEN SANDBAGS IN NEW TAMPA, BUT ONLY TWO PLACES
11:24:15AM IN THE SECOND HURRICANE FOR SANDBAGS.
11:24:18AM THERE WERE NO TARPS.
11:24:19AM AND THAT PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA, THE LINES WERE FIVE HOURS
11:24:24AM LONG BECAUSE IS IT NOT HAVE ENOUGH SAND.
11:24:27AM USING THE MACHINES.
11:24:28AM WE HAD A SHORTAGE OF SAND THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IT
11:24:32AM ESPECIALLY WITH FEMA'S HELP.
11:24:34AM THOSE IN SOUTH COMPANY WENT TO EAST TAMPA AND THOSE LINES
11:24:38AM WERE FOUR OR FIVE HOURS LONG AND WE NEED TO FIX THESE
11:24:41AM PROBLEMS NEXT TIME.
11:24:42AM MORE IMPORTANTLY WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT MONEY, IF WE PAY TO
11:24:46AM REPAIR PEOPLE'S HOUSES, THEIR HOUSE WILL FLOP AGAIN BECAUSE
11:24:51AM WE HAVEN'T FIXED THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS.
11:24:54AM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF NOT BILLIONS TOWARD MAINTENANCE.
11:24:58AM WE NEED TO PUT MONEY TOWARD MAINTENANCE BECAUSE EVEN IF
11:25:01AM PEOPLE PAID TO RENOVATE THEIR HOMES, THEIR FLOODS ARE GOING
11:25:04AM TO COME RIGHT BACK IN AND HIT THEM.
11:25:07AM WE HAVE TO FIX THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS.
11:25:10AM IF WE HAVE A CHOICE, PEOPLE NEED MONEY FOR THEIR OWN HOMES,
11:25:13AM BUT DOESN'T DO GOOD IF WE REPAIR THEM AND FLOOD THE NEXT
11:25:16AM WEEK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO PROPER MAINTENANCE.
11:25:20AM THIS $3 MILLION IS SYMBOLIC EFFORT AND NOT ENOUGH AND BARELY
11:25:24AM GOING TO TOUCH ANYBODY.
11:25:27AM AND THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SOLVE THIS.
11:25:29AM WE HAVE GOT TO FIND -- WE HAVE A TEAM OF LOBBYISTS AND
11:25:32AM LOBBYISTS IN THE CITY AND WE NEED TO FIND OTHER SOURCES OF
11:25:35AM FUND.
11:25:36AM YOU ARE WORKING WITH A FEDERAL AGENCY HERE.
11:25:38AM BUT FEMA MONEY ISN'T ENOUGH.
11:25:40AM WE HAVE TO FIGURE WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM
11:25:42AM BECAUSE THE CITY -- EVEN IF WE USE ALL OF OUR BUDGET NOT
11:25:46AM ENOUGH TO MAKE EVERYBODY HOLD.
11:25:47AM WE NODE TO FIND A WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
11:25:51AM MORE IMPORTANTLY, SOLVE THE MAINTENANCE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE
11:25:53AM DON'T FLOOD AGAIN.
11:25:54AM THANK YOU.
11:25:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:25:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:25:59AM I WANT TO GIVE SINCERE THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUE, LUIS VIERA.
11:26:04AM SEVEN COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:26:05AM FOUR IN THE DISTRICT AND THREE AT LARGE.
11:26:07AM ALL OF US ARE RESPONSIBLE WHAT HAPPENS.
11:26:09AM NOT JUST ONE PLACE.
11:26:12AM EVERYBODY WORKS TO GET IT DONE.
11:26:15AM HOWEVER, AS I LISTEN TO THE CONVERSATION, THERE IS ONE THING
11:26:18AM MISSING.
11:26:19AM WE ARE REPAIRING THE HOUSES THE SAME WAY THEY WERE.
11:26:22AM THAT'S GREAT.
11:26:23AM BUT IT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF FLOODING.
11:26:26AM YOU MAY PUT ALL THE SANDBAG YOU WANT IN FRONT OF YOUR DOOR,
11:26:31AM BUT YOU CAN'T PUT THEM ON A WINDOW TWO AND A HALF FEET OFF
11:26:35AM THE GROUND.
11:26:35AM STILL GOING TO FLOOD.
11:26:37AM IF IT GOES TO TWO AND A HALF FEET.
11:26:41AM SO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORLD OF CHANGE -- LAST
11:26:44AM YEAR ALONE, THE BAY WAS 2.5 DEGREES HOTTER THAN EVER BEFORE.
11:26:49AM JUST YESTERDAY, I AM LISTENING TO THE NEWS, AND BASED ON
11:26:54AM TODAY'S -- COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S, IT IS ALREADY THREE
11:26:58AM DEGREES OR FOUR AND A HALF DEGREES IN DIFFERENT AREAS
11:27:01AM HOTTER.
11:27:02AM SO HURRICANES ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.
11:27:05AM AND ALL MY TIME LIVING HERE, I NEVER SEEN SIX OR SEVEN COME
11:27:08AM THIS WAY.
11:27:09AM THEY USUALLY GET IN THE GULF AND GO THE OTHER WAY, WEST.
11:27:13AM THEY CAME EAST.
11:27:14AM SO THINGS ARE CHANGING.
11:27:17AM AND IT IS GOING TO GET HARDER AND HARDER TO SUSTAIN THE
11:27:28AM LIFESTYLE THAT WE HAVE.
11:27:28AM WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO PUT -- THE DRYWALL PEOPLE WILL COME
11:27:32AM AFTER ME.
11:27:32AM DRYWALL IN ANY BUILDING BECAUSE LIKE A SPONGE.
11:27:35AM IF IT GOES A FEET AND A HALF, IT TRAVELS UP ANOTHER FOOT.
11:27:38AM YOU CAN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE EAVES ON YOUR HOUSE.
11:27:40AM YOU CAN'T IT CONTINUE TO DO THINGS WE ARE DOING BECAUSE THAT
11:27:44AM IS THE WAY WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE IT.
11:27:45AM THE CODE HAS GOT TO CHANGE.
11:27:47AM THE BUILDING HAS GOT TO CHANGE THE WAY WE BUILD THINGS.
11:27:50AM BECAUSE WE CAN NOT SUSTAIN WHAT IS COMING.
11:27:53AM IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE.
11:27:55AM NORTH FLORIDA HAD SNOW, COUPLE OF INCHES.
11:27:58AM WHEN HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED?
11:28:02AM YOU GO UP TO CALIFORNIA, THEY HAVE HAD MULTITUDE OF
11:28:06AM PROBLEMS.
11:28:06AM IN FACT, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT -- THAT I READ ABOUT HAVE
11:28:11AM -- A GREAT PERCENT -- I CAN'T SAY HALF, BUT A GREAT
11:28:15AM PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE ARE RELOCATING FROM CALIFORNIA AND
11:28:18AM TEXAS.
11:28:18AM AND INCLUDING FLORIDA.
11:28:20AM WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING HOW TO
11:28:23AM SOLVE IT.
11:28:23AM WE TRY TO FIX IT WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND THAT'S IT.
11:28:28AM THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
11:28:30AM I AM NOT TRYING TO PREACH TO EVERYONE.
11:28:32AM IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THINGS, YOU WILL NEVER
11:28:36AM SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
11:28:37AM NEVER.
11:28:37AM BUT LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
11:28:39AM I -- I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HOOK AT THE BUILDING CODES.
11:28:42AM I BELIEVE WE LOOK HOW WE BUILD ROOFS.
11:28:48AM ANY ISLAND YOU HAVE OF KEY WEST, BAHAMAS, CUBA.
11:28:54AM DON'T HAVE ROOFS THAT ARE MADE LIKE OURS.
11:28:57AM THEY DON'T HAVE IT OVERHANG WHERE THE WIND PICKS IT UP AND
11:29:01AM THE WALLS COLLAPSE.
11:29:01AM WATER FROM THE OUTSIDE AND WATER RISING FROM THE FLOOR.
11:29:04AM YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.
11:29:05AM WHY?
11:29:12AM THAT IS THE WAY THEY BUILT THEM TO COMBAT THE STORMS.
11:29:15AM THEY DON'T HAVE DRYWALL BUT HAVE CEMENT.
11:29:17AM WHEN IT GETS RENT, YOU LET IT DRY AND PAINT IT.
11:29:21AM NOT THAT SIMPLE, BUT IT IS DONE.
11:29:23AM YOU DON'T HAVE THE ROOF THAT FALLS OFF.
11:29:25AM YOU DON'T HAVE THE SHINGLES THAT FALL OFF BECAUSE CONCRETE
11:29:28AM AND REBAR WIRE ALL OVER THE HOUSE WHEN IT IS BUILT.
11:29:32AM AND IT WON'T COME APART.
11:29:34AM WHAT I AM SAYING EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE DONE WONDERFUL THINGS
11:29:38AM TO THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE TO LOOK TO THE LONG TERM.
11:29:41AM I HOPE MY PROJECTIONS ARE WRONG.
11:29:46AM THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANY BETTER.
11:29:48AM WILL PROBABLY GET WORSE.
11:29:50AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CAN I?
11:29:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:29:53AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
11:29:55AM I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING.
11:29:57AM A MAXIMUM OF $20,000 PER HOUSEHOLD.
11:30:00AM YOU CAN GET FUNDS FROM BOTH BUT CANNOT EXCEED $20,000 TOTAL.
11:30:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:30:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUESTION, MISS FEELEY, MORTGAGE
11:30:10AM PAYMENTS MUST NOT BE 30 DAYS.
11:30:12AM IF SOMEBODY A BEHIND IN THEIR MORTGAGE, THEY WILL BE
11:30:15AM PRECLUDED?
11:30:16AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:30:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHY IS THAT?
11:30:20AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I BELIEVE IT IS A STATE -- BECAUSE WE HAVE
11:30:22AM -- AND THIS KIND OF BRINGS EVERYTHING BACK TOGETHER.
11:30:26AM BUT WHEN WE BRING YOUR ACTION PLAN TO YOU FOR HOUSING, THAT
11:30:29AM IS WHERE THESE STRATEGY GOES.
11:30:30AM SO THE STRATEGIES ARE GOVERNED BY THE STATE IN TERMS OF WHEN
11:30:35AM WE PUT THEM IN.
11:30:36AM WE ACTUALLY AMENDED THIS.
11:30:38AM BECAUSE THESE ARE STATE FUND, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE.
11:30:41AM SO I HAVE MET.
11:30:43AM WE HAVE FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS.
11:30:46AM ONE IN PORT TAMPA -- WE WERE IN PORT TAMPA TUESDAY NIGHT.
11:30:50AM WE HAD ABOUT 60 PEOPLE.
11:30:52AM JC WAS IN COPELAND PARK LAST NIGHT.
11:30:57AM I THINK WE HAD TEN PEOPLE.
11:30:59AM A WEEK PRIOR, PALMETTO BEACH AND BABE ZAHARIAS, FOREST HILLS
11:31:06AM AREA LAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
11:31:08AM WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF
11:31:12AM THEM ARE PAYING BOTH RIGHT NOW.
11:31:14AM SO I THINK THIS WILL BE HELPFUL IN THAT ASPECT.
11:31:19AM I MEAN, I MET A WOMAN WHO WAS STILL PAYING HER MORTGAGE AND
11:31:23AM RENTING A SMALL SHED FROM ANOTHER PERSON TO BE RESIDING IN.
11:31:27AM SO WE HAVE BEEN OUT LISTENING.
11:31:30AM I THINK THESE FUNDS WILL WORK THAT WAY.
11:31:32AM BUT IT WILL ALLOW US TO HELP GET THEM CAUGHT UP IN MOVING
11:31:36AM FORWARD.
11:31:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK -- IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
11:31:40AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, DOES --
11:31:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, DO YOU WANT TO
11:31:45AM SPEAK, MA'AM?
11:31:47AM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:31:48AM WE CAN'T HEAR YOU IS SHE MUTED?
11:32:04AM OR DO WE HAVE HER MUTED?
11:32:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA CAN SPEAK.
11:32:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:15AM I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS.
11:32:17AM WITH NORTH TAMPA AND THE SOUTH TAMPA THING, RIGHT.
11:32:21AM I HAPPEN TO REPRESENT NORTH TAMPA.
11:32:23AM NORTH TAMPA GOT FLOODED.
11:32:25AM NEW TAMPA WAS NOT FLOODED AT ALL, THE NORTHERN SIDE MORE SO
11:32:29AM BUT AN OLD TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, WHATEVER DID IT.
11:32:32AM WITH REGARDS TO THE COMMENT OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:32:34AM IT'S FUNNY -- I WILL BE HONEST, I HAD A LOT OF BACK AND
11:32:38AM FORTH WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OVER THE LAST 120 DAYS, NOT
11:32:41AM ALL YOU HAVE IT HAS BEEN PLEASANT, RIGHT.
11:32:43AM BECAUSE WE HAD SOME DISAGREEMENTS AND CAUSTIC CONVERSATIONS.
11:32:48AM AND -- BUT WE ARE HERE WITH THIS $3 MILLION AND I
11:32:56AM SAY CAUSTIC CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE STRESSFUL OVER THE LAST
11:32:59AM FEW MONTHS AS THE DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER.
11:33:04AM AND SEE THESE PEOPLE -- GOOD PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.
11:33:07AM TAKING UNANTICIPATED HITS.
11:33:09AM TIME WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION WAS OUT THERE WAS OFTEN IN TOWN
11:33:12AM HALL MEETINGS THAT I CALLED FOR.
11:33:14AM AND BECAUSE -- IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF SOUTH TAMPA OR
11:33:19AM EVERYWHERE ELSE.
11:33:20AM I FRANKLY SAID FOUR DAYS AFTER THIS UNANTICIPATED FLOOD AND
11:33:23AM HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH 200, 250 PEOPLE OUT THERE.
11:33:27AM A LOT OF THAT IS AS THE COUNCILMEMBER I PUSH THINGS A LOT.
11:33:31AM AGAIN, FOR THIS, I SALUTE THE MAYOR 100%.
11:33:35AM I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL.
11:33:36AM A COUPLE OF THINGS REALLY FAST WHICH I MAY.
11:33:38AM I HAVE ASKED HAGER WHO DOES SUCH A GOOD JOB FOR US TO LOOK
11:33:43AM AT ADDITIONAL FUND AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE MAY
11:33:46AM LOOK LIKE.
11:33:46AM IN TERMS OF THIS BEING AN ACT OF GOD.
11:33:49AM I WANT TO BE SURE BECAUSE, AGAIN, I REPRESENT THIS AREA AND
11:33:55AM WHERE WE HAVE THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW FOR AND I WANT TO MAKE
11:33:58AM SURE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS THERE.
11:33:59AM AGAIN, WE GOT TO FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT FOR PEOPLE LIKE THIS
11:34:02AM EVERYWHERE.
11:34:02AM WHETHER IT IS FOR SOUTH TAMPA.
11:34:04AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, IT IS REALLY LIKE A LOT OF
11:34:07AM WORKING-CLASS, BLUE-COLLAR IN SOUTH COMPANY AND WE NEED
11:34:13AM TO HAVE THEIR BACKS FOLLOWING THIS HURRICANE.
11:34:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:34:19AM LET'S SEE -- STILL MUTED.
11:34:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SECOND.
11:34:23AM >>CLERK: SHE IS UH-UH -- UNMUTED.
11:34:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MICROPHONE THAT IS UNPLUGGED?
11:34:41AM BUILT IN?
11:34:41AM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:34:42AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:34:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:34:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:34:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:34:54AM >>CLERK: HENDERSON?
11:34:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE IS SEEING YES AND THUMB'S UP.
11:35:01AM IS THAT LEGALLY SUFFICIENT?
11:35:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
11:35:04AM BECAUSE IT IS AN AUDIO RECORDING.
11:35:07AM IT IS -- THERE ARE DISADVANTAGES TO REMOTE PARTICIPATION, I
11:35:11AM HAVE TO SHARE THAT.
11:35:12AM BUT THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS.
11:35:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:35:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:35:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:35:23AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
11:35:27AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:35:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:35:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE 30 MINUTES LEFT.
11:35:33AM AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS ENOUGH FOR -- FOR A ROBUST
11:35:38AM CONVERSATION.
11:35:39AM I JUST WANTED TO GET ANYBODY ELSE'S FEEL ON THAT.
11:35:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I -- WANT TO BREAK AT 12:30, I THINK AN
11:35:48AM HOUR.
11:35:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL --
11:35:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOOK TO BREAKING FOR LUNCH.
11:35:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MIGHT BE A TWO-HOUR CONVERSATION.
11:36:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXCUSE ME, CHAIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
11:36:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
11:36:05AM WE CAN HEAR YOU.
11:36:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELL, THANK YOU.
11:36:07AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE A VOICE IN THIS PROCESS.
11:36:09AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:36:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, IT POSSIBLE TO REOPEN TO HAVE
11:36:16AM HER RECORDED TO VOTE.
11:36:17AM I MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE VOTE AND ALLOW COUNCILWOMAN
11:36:21AM HENDERSON TO TALK AND REVOTE.
11:36:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:36:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR GO
11:36:30AM AHEAD AND VOTE.
11:36:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
11:36:32AM I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE COMMENTS.
11:36:34AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AS WELL
11:36:36AM AS MISS FEELEY AND HER STAFF.
11:36:37AM THE IMPACT IS -- SADLY IT IS LOW IF IT IS $5,000 TO 640
11:36:46AM PEOPLE.
11:36:46AM IF IT IS $20,000, IT IS 160 PEOPLE.
11:36:48AM SO I KNOW IT IS NOT SIGNIFICANT, BUT IT IS A START.
11:36:51AM YOU KNOW, IT IS THE CITY'S WAY OF CONTRIBUTING TO, YOU KNOW,
11:36:56AM GIVING SOME RELIEF TO PEOPLE.
11:36:57AM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS.
11:36:59AM >>CLERK: YOU WANT ME TO DO THE ROLL CALL AGAIN?
11:37:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T NEED TO CLOSE.
11:37:05AM BUT WE HAVE -- IT IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:37:10AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO --
11:37:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN?
11:37:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
11:37:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY ON THE RECORD.
11:37:19AM A ROLL CALL VOTE ON A BIG TICKET ITEM SUCH AS THIS, BEST
11:37:24AM INTEREST TO DO A ROLL CALL.
11:37:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL HAVE A MOTION -- WHO WAS THE
11:37:28AM ORIGINAL MOTION MAKER FOR 60.
11:37:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GUESS I WAS --
11:37:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS.
11:37:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIERA.
11:37:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:37:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:37:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:37:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:37:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:37:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:37:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:37:49AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:37:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 22 AND 67.
11:37:55AM YOU ASKED FOR THEM TO BE HEARD FIRST.
11:37:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND ETC.
11:38:00AM IS THERE A PRESENTATION OR -- WITH CHIEF TRIPP.
11:38:06AM MR. MUTTERBACK.
11:38:13AM IF NOT, I CAN GO TO QUESTIONS.
11:38:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE HAS A WRITTEN REPORT.
11:38:17AM DO YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF?
11:38:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
11:38:21AM I DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
11:38:23AM WELL, COME, MR. MUTTERBACK OBVIOUSLY -- WHEN I DID THIS AND
11:38:28AM THIS IS A VERY -- I HAVE VERY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS
11:38:31AM ISSUE, SO I WANTED TO MEET BEFORE TO GO OVER MY STRONG
11:38:34AM FEELINGS TO -- TO GIVE FOLKS A CHANCE TO NUMBER ONE PREPARE
11:38:38AM THE RIGHT RESPONSE.
11:38:39AM AND JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT, BUT I -- I WANT TO GO THROUGH --
11:38:44AM SO WE ARE DEALING WITH FLEET MAINTENANCE WHICH -- I -- I
11:38:48AM THINK THERE IS SOME NEWS ON, IF I AM CORRECT.
11:38:51AM AND THEN WITH STATION 24, WHICH HAD A -- HAD A RELATIVELY
11:38:54AM LONG JOURNEY IN PITS PRESENT VERSION.
11:38:58AM IN 2023, WE PASSED DESIGN FOR STATION 24.
11:39:02AM THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT THE ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO DO THEIR
11:39:06AM 1.0 MILLAGE TAX INCREASE.
11:39:08AM I HAD PROPOSED SCALING IT BACK 70% AND HAVING THAT FULL
11:39:13AM POINT GOING TO POLICE AND FIRE.
11:39:14AM DIDN'T GET SUPPORT FOR THAT.
11:39:16AM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
11:39:18AM WE GO FORWARD AND I SAID LISTEN, IF WE CAN'T DO ONGOING
11:39:21AM REVENUE FOR THIS, WE ARE GOING TO BOND IT.
11:39:24AM I DID A MOTION FOR THAT.
11:39:25AM AND IT WOULD WIND UP PASSING.
11:39:27AM ONE YEAR AGO -- IT WAS ABOUT ONE YEAR AGO, WE FINALIZED THE
11:39:32AM MECHANISM OF WHICH HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COULD USE FUNDS
11:39:34AM FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE AND FIRE STATION 24.
11:39:37AM SO WHAT -- WHAT IS INTERESTING IS, IS THAT WE ARE HERE ABOUT
11:39:42AM A YEAR AND A HALF PAST THE TIME WHERE WE, I BELIEVE, FUNDED
11:39:48AM CAN HE SIGN.
11:39:49AM ROUGHLY AROUND SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
11:39:51AM AND I HAD THOUGHT THAT DESIGN WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS -- WAS
11:39:57AM SUBSTANTIALLY FINISHED.
11:39:58AM I SPOKE WITH MR. STOCCO AND HE DID AS WELL, CERTAIN
11:40:01AM ASSUMPTIONS, ETC.
11:40:02AM I GUESS MY MESSAGE IS THAT COUNCIL EMPOWERED EVERYBODY WITH
11:40:12AM THE TOOLS THAT ARE NEEDED WHAT CHIEF TRIPP WAS PUSHING HARD
11:40:16AM FOR.
11:40:16AM AND WE HAD A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND ASKED CHIEF TRIPP WHEN
11:40:19AM IT COMES TO BONDING, WHAT ARE YOUR TWO BIG PRIORITIES.
11:40:22AM YOU SAID FLEET MAINTENANCE AND STATION 24.
11:40:26AM WE RUN WITH YOUR VISION, CHIEF.
11:40:28AM AND APPRECIATE YOUR VIGOR IN THAT REGARD.
11:40:30AM HERE WE ARE A YEAR AND A HALF YEAR LATER.
11:40:32AM WE GET A NEW TIMELINE THAT SHOW GROUNDBREAKING IN MARCH OF
11:40:36AM 2026.
11:40:37AM WHICH IS GOING TO BE -- WHAT IS IT -- TWO AND A HALF YEARS
11:40:40AM AFTER WE APPARENTLY PASSED DESIGN.
11:40:42AM AND QUESTIONS IN THAT.
11:40:43AM AND ALSO WHAT IS UNIQUE IS -- AND I'M GIVING OUT ALL THE
11:40:48AM INFORMATION BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.
11:40:50AM OBVIOUSLY IT IS MY DISTRICT.
11:40:51AM AND WE HAD -- I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD STATION OF NEW
11:40:54AM TAMPA.
11:40:54AM HAD TO STATION 25 IN NORTH TAMPA.
11:40:57AM AND 24.
11:40:58AM 25 COMES AFTER 24 FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
11:41:01AM BUT THIS WAS A COMPROMISE.
11:41:03AM BECAUSE THERE WERE FOLKS IN THE UNION WHO SAID, WE WOULD
11:41:07AM LIKE A DIFFERENT LOCATION THAN THAT THIS.
11:41:10AM SO WE -- GUESS WHAT, WE GOT THE LAND.
11:41:12AM SO WE MOVE WITH VIGOR.
11:41:14AM RIGHT.
11:41:14AM AND HERE WE ARE.
11:41:16AM SO THAT IS A LOT OF WHERE THE FRUSTRATION IS.
11:41:18AM AND I COULD GO THROUGH -- WE HAD -- GOSH, I THINK WE HAD
11:41:23AM SEVEN OR EIGHT MOTIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF ON
11:41:26AM STATION 24, INCLUDING, I THINK, QUARTERLY REPORTS.
11:41:31AM SO I GUESS THAT'S -- THAT FORMS THE BASIS OF MY QUESTIONS, I
11:41:35AM GUESS.
11:41:36AM AND MR. MUTTERBACK, IF YOU COULD.
11:41:38AM AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS, SIR.
11:41:40AM IF YOU COULD, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE LAND SURVEY
11:41:44AM EVALUATION AND ETC. THAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE -- AND WE WILL
11:41:48AM START SEPTEMBER 2023.
11:41:50AM IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN OPINE ON.
11:41:56AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, RICHARD
11:41:58AM MUTTERBACK, DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
11:42:03AM GO THROUGH A LITTLE PROGRESS TIMELINE HERE.
11:42:06AM SO CONTRACT ADMIN'S INVOLVEMENT STARTED APRIL 2023 WHEN THE
11:42:11AM CITY AND FIRE HAD THIS PROPERTY.
11:42:15AM AND WANTED TO LOOK TO SEE IF IT IS FEASIBLE FOR A FIRE
11:42:19AM STATION.
11:42:19AM SO WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH OTERO ENGINEERING IN
11:42:26AM APRIL, AND THAT AGREEMENT HAD FIVE MONTHS ALLOTTED FOR THOSE
11:42:29AM STUDIES.
11:42:30AM AND -- AND THE FIRST STORMWATER PLAN WAS GIVEN TO US IN
11:42:34AM AUGUST.
11:42:34AM AND WE HAD SOME CORRECTIONS AND REVISED IN OCTOBER AND THE
11:42:38AM FINAL SITE INVESTIGATION REPORT DELIVERED TO US IN NOVEMBER.
11:42:41AM SO SLIGHTLY -- SLIGHTLY OVER THE FIVE-MONTH ANTICIPATION.
11:42:46AM AT THAT POINT, ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN HAND ALREADY
11:42:49AM THAT IS WHEN THE CITY, FIRE, ADMINISTRATION DECIDE, OKAY, WE
11:42:56AM HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS PROPERTY IS FEASIBLE.
11:42:58AM DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BUILDING A STATION HERE
11:43:02AM THROUGH NOVEMBER THROUGH MAY.
11:43:04AM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION WAS, AGAIN, INVOLVED IN PREPARING
11:43:10AM FOR A DESIGN-BUILD RFQ TO GO OUT.
11:43:14AM WHAT THAT ENTAILS IS INVESTIGATION -- I MEAN, INTERVIEW
11:43:18AM PROCESS BETWEEN MY AMONG ARCHITECT STAFF AND TFR TO SEE WHAT
11:43:23AM TO YOU NEED HERE?
11:43:23AM WHAT DO YOU WANT HERE?
11:43:25AM WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR?
11:43:27AM THE DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGES FOR THE RFQs.
11:43:31AM WHAT THE SUBMITTING FIRMS HAD TO GO OFF OF.
11:43:33AM WHAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTING.
11:43:35AM WE ARE PUSHING A LOT MORE OF PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENTS AND THOSE
11:43:39AM SORT OF THINGS TO GET A MORE REASONABLE COST.
11:43:42AM MORE REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE CAN EXPECT ON THESE
11:43:45AM LARGER PROJECTS SO YOU HAVE GOT -- IN THAT TIME FRAME
11:43:53AM BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND APRIL, WE PUT TOGETHER THAT DESIGN
11:43:56AM CRITERIA PACKAGE.
11:43:57AM MAY, IT WAS ADVERTISED.
11:44:00AM ADVERTISEMENT PERIOD ALWAYS TAKES FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AT BEST
11:44:03AM TO GET THROUGH.
11:44:04AM STATE STATUTE.
11:44:06AM CERTAIN DEADLINES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THERE.
11:44:09AM NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
11:44:11AM SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
11:44:13AM WHICH GOT US THROUGH AUGUST.
11:44:19AM AND ALL THIS IS STILL TYPICAL TIMELINE.
11:44:21AM THERE HAVE BEEN NO REAL DELAYS AT THIS POINT.
11:44:25AM WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS IN AUGUST FROM FOUR DIFFERENT FIRMS.
11:44:28AM FROM THOSE FOUR FIRMS, ONE WAS RECOMMENDED TO THE MAYOR FOR
11:44:33AM SELECTION, SELECTED J. KOKOLAKIS.
11:44:36AM APPROVED THAT SELECTION.
11:44:37AM AND WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING IN LATE AUGUST.
11:44:40AM FROM AUGUST UNTIL DECEMBER, THAT IS WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON
11:44:45AM -- THAT IS WHERE WE START THIS INITIAL AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF
11:44:49AM YOU ITEM 22.
11:44:50AM THAT IS WHEN THAT NEXT AND SCOPE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE
11:44:54AM FIRM AND TFR AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION HAPPENS.
11:44:58AM KEEP IN MIND THOUGH BETWEEN THAT TIME FRAME, IT IS USUALLY A
11:45:02AM TWO OR THREE-MONDAY PROCESS.
11:45:04AM ANY DELAY THERE, TWO STORMS.
11:45:05AM AND FIRE IS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
11:45:09AM BUT STILL IF -- FROM THAT POINT -- I MEAN -- AND JUST, IF I
11:45:14AM MAY --
11:45:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: TAKE YOUR TIME, PLEASE.
11:45:18AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: SO THIS DOCUMENT, THIS SCHEDULE TRACKER.
11:45:26AM THIS SOMETHING -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS AT THE
11:45:29AM BOTTOM THERE.
11:45:30AM I PRINTED THIS SEPTEMBER OF 2024.
11:45:32AM INTERNAL DOCUMENT THAT WE USE IN PLANNING AND THAT KIND OF
11:45:35AM THING THAT GIVES US AN IDEA HOW LONG THESE THINGS WILL TAKE
11:45:38AM SO WE CAN PRESENT TO OUR CLIENTS, THE USER DEPARTMENTS, HOW
11:45:41AM LONG THIS SHOULD TAKE AND HOW LONG WE SHOULD TELL YOU.
11:45:44AM THEY ARE PRETTY SPOT ON.
11:45:46AM YOU NOTICE THIS LINE HERE, THESE MONTHS HERE.
11:45:48AM FROM THE TIME WE POST, YOU KNOW THERE IS A MONTH FOR THIS,
11:45:51AM FOR THIS AND THIS.
11:45:53AM HERE WE ARE AT THE COUNCIL DESIGN AGREEMENT.
11:45:58AM AND THERE IS ONE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS
11:46:02AM BETWEEN THE RFQ POSTING AND IF THIS POSTED THIS MAY, WE ARE
11:46:06AM RIGHT AT EIGHT AND A HALF MONTHS NOW.
11:46:08AM WE ARE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE WHAT A TYPICAL DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT
11:46:12AM WE SEE IN THE CITY TAKES PLACE.
11:46:13AM SO -- AND SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS ON THE TIMELINE.
11:46:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:46:23AM SO I WILL GO THROUGH THE TIMELINE IN A LITTLE BIT.
11:46:25AM BUT I WANT TO CONFIRM SOMETHING WHICH YOU SAID THAT
11:46:28AM GROUNDBREAKING COULD BE AROUND MARCH OF 2026.
11:46:31AM AGAIN, GIVEN THAT.
11:46:34AM AND I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH.
11:46:38AM AND WE WILL DISSECT THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
11:46:41AM GIVEN THAT DESIGN WAS FOUNDED IN 2023 FOR ME AND THAT WAS
11:46:45AM JUST A LOT.
11:46:45AM AND AGAIN, I MADE REFERENCE TO THIS WHICH IS YOU ARE TALKING
11:46:49AM ABOUT NORTH TAMPA.
11:46:50AM YOU ARE TALKING OF HELP FOR STATION THIS, WHICH IS THE
11:46:55AM BUSIEST STATION THAT TOOK ONE OUT OF SEVEN CALLS.
11:46:57AM STATION 25 THAT PASSED IN '22 AND -- NO, NO, '21 AND THEN
11:47:05AM '22 WAS A GOOD DOWNPAYMENT ON THAT.
11:47:07AM GIVEN THE REAL EMERGENCY WITH THAT.
11:47:09AM AND THAT WAS -- I REMEMBER CHIEF TRIPP WITH JOE GRECO, THE
11:47:14AM FIRST JOINT PRIORITY WE HAVE.
11:47:15AM WHAT CAN WE TO DO DOUBLE UP AND MOVE FORWARD TO HAVE A
11:47:19AM QUICKER GROUNDBREAKING.
11:47:23AM BECAUSE I -- I AM GOING TO MAKE SOME MOTIONS ON THAT.
11:47:26AM BUT I WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
11:47:28AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS -- IN YOUR
11:47:36AM AGREEMENT, 461 CALENDAR DAYS TO GET TO THAT POINT.
11:47:39AM AS FAR AS -- JUST FOR REASONABLENESS.
11:47:41AM A FEW ITEMS THAT -- THAT I PRESENTED IN MY MEMO THAT WE CAN
11:47:45AM DO.
11:47:46AM ONE OF -- ONE OF THE TIME CONSUMING PARTS IS THE BACK AND
11:47:51AM FORTH BETWEEN THE FIRM AND THE CITY REVIEWING EVERY STEP OF
11:47:54AM THE WAY.
11:47:54AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT EVERY POINT AT THE 30%, 60%,
11:48:00AM 90% GMP.
11:48:01AM WE ARE REVIEWING EVERYTHING AND REFERRING TO THE USER
11:48:04AM DEPARTMENT WHO NEEDS -- REFERRING TO THEM AS WELL.
11:48:07AM AND SO THAT REVIEW TIME ONE WAY TO EXPEDITE THIS, TO HIRE A
11:48:17AM REPRESENTATIVE TO WORK WITH FIRE, AND ACTUALLY THOSE
11:48:19AM PRESENTATIONS ARE COMING BEFORE US THE 27th OF THIS MONTH.
11:48:23AM WHERE FIRMS WILL ACT ON BEHALF AS PROJECT MANAGERS.
11:48:28AM THEY DON'T WORK FOR COCALAKIS, FOR CAD.
11:48:33AM THE THING IS, CHIEF TRIPP FIGHTS FIRES.
11:48:37AM SHE DOESN'T KNOW ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING AND READING
11:48:40AM THESE KIND OF DOCUMENTS.
11:48:41AM THAT KIND OF THING.
11:48:42AM SAME PLACE WE PUT IN PLACE NOR TPD ON ONE OF THEIR LARGER
11:48:47AM PROJECTS.
11:48:47AM ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE ENGINEERING OR
11:48:49AM CONSTRUCTION DIVISIONS WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENTS.
11:48:51AM SOME SO HAVING SOMEBODY ON BOARD THAT KNOWS FIRE AND KNOWS
11:48:57AM PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:48:57AM THAT KNOWS CONSTRUCTION AND ARCHITECTURE AND RELAYING THE
11:49:01AM INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND JENKINS.
11:49:06AM THAT WILL EXPEDITE THE REVIEW TIME.
11:49:08AM A FIRM PRESENTS WITH DOCUMENT TO REVIEW AND GOES TO FIRE FOR
11:49:12AM THEIR REVIEW, THAT WILL EXPEDITE THAT PROCESS.
11:49:14AM THERE ARE, LIKE, FOUR STAGES IN THERE.
11:49:16AM EACH ONE OF THOSE ARE CUTTING OFF A WEEK OR TWO WEEK IN
11:49:24AM BETWEEN THOSE.
11:49:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION THAT GOES TO THAT.
11:49:27AM CHIEF TRIPP, ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, MA'AM?
11:49:32AM ANYTHING TO ADD SUBSTANTIVELY?
11:49:34AM I HAVE A QUESTION AND MR. STOCCO THERE.
11:49:36AM WE WILL WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM AS PART OF THE MOTION TOO.
11:49:38AM DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITION WITH FLEET MAINTENANCE OR ANY UPDATE
11:49:41AM WITH FLEET MAINTENANCE IN REAL ESTATE AT ALL.
11:49:49AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:49:50AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH FAST THROUGH THE
11:49:56AM AGENDA.
11:49:56AM SURPRISINGLY.
11:49:57AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU ARE TRYING
11:50:00AM TO DO TO GET US THIS FIRE STATION MOVING FORWARD.
11:50:02AM AND THANKS TO CONTRACT ADMIN FOR THAT I ASSISTANCE AS WELL.
11:50:09AM A COUPLE OF ITEMS YOU MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE
11:50:11AM INTRODUCTION AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS ONE WAS FLEET
11:50:14AM MAINTENANCE.
11:50:15AM WE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT ON SOME PROPERTY JUST
11:50:18AM WANT TO DISCLOSE ALL OF THE INFORMATION, BUT WE ARE IN
11:50:21AM PROGRESS WITH THAT AND I WILL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU UPDATED ON
11:50:24AM THAT.
11:50:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS GREAT NEWS.
11:50:31AM WE ARE THRILLED.
11:50:32AM IS THAT IN CITY LIMITS?
11:50:34AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: DEFINITELY IN CITY LIMITS.
11:50:36AM WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE AND SOME WANTED TO LEASE AND
11:50:39AM SOME WASN'T BIG ENOUGH.
11:50:40AM WE THINK THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS BIG, ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE
11:50:43AM ARE LOOKING FOR THE TWO FACILITIES FOR SUPPLYING FLEET.
11:50:47AM AS WELL AS OTHER AREAS -- OTHER PROPERTY IN THE AREA
11:50:51AM POTENTIAL TO ADD ON FOR ADDITIONAL ROOM, IF NEEDED.
11:50:55AM BUT THAT IS A PLUS.
11:50:55AM I GOT THE GOOD NEWS YESTERDAY, SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH
11:50:59AM THAT.
11:50:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE THRILLED.
11:51:00AM AGAIN, WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT.
11:51:02AM SO GO FORTH, PLEASE.
11:51:03AM AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHIEF.
11:51:05AM AND MR. MUTTERBACK, WHEN WAS THE ORIGINAL SURVEY ON THE LAND
11:51:13AM DONE?
11:51:13AM BECAUSE IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE SURVEYS AND
11:51:17AM ASSESSMENTS AND ELEVATIONS DONE ON THE LAND PRIOR TO 2023.
11:51:21AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: MY FAMILIARITY WITH THE OTERO REPORT.
11:51:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY IN THE ROOM OPINE WHEN INVESTMENTS AND
11:51:36AM SURVEYS DONE ON THE LAND.
11:51:38AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: THE ONLY THAT TO COME FROM CONTRACT
11:51:43AM AI ADMIN.
11:51:45AM IF THERE WAS A SEARCH, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
11:51:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:51:50AM SO I HAVE -- AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ALL OF COUNCIL'S
11:51:53AM TIME ON THIS.
11:51:54AM BUT, FOR ME, THE BIG ISSUE IS LOOK, WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
11:51:59AM AND FOR ME, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT STATION 24.
11:52:03AM IN 2023, I REMEMBER WHEN WE PASSED THE DESIGN FOR THAT.
11:52:08AM AND THE VIGOR AND THE EMPHASIS THAT COUNCIL PUT STATING THAT
11:52:12AM WE WANT THIS THING BUILT REALLY, REALLY SOON.
11:52:15AM PUT OUR PRIORITY ON IT.
11:52:17AM AND SO FORTH.
11:52:17AM AND HERE WE ARE TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER.
11:52:20AM AND WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED WITH DESIGN.
11:52:22AM SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT.
11:52:24AM BUT MY BIG THING IS, MOVING FORWARD WITH VIGOR.
11:52:27AM WHEN I HEAR THAT WE HAVE GREAT FLEET MAINTENANCE GOING
11:52:31AM FORWARD, THAT IS GREAT.
11:52:32AM I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL.
11:52:33AM YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT -- AND I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY
11:52:36AM MOTIONS ON THIS.
11:52:37AM BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT, TOO, WITH SOMETHING
11:52:40AM DOWNTOWN.
11:52:40AM BUT, WHATEVER.
11:52:41AM BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, I AM GOING TO MOTION FOR A
11:52:46AM MONTHLY REPORT TO TAKE PLACE AT THE LAST REGULAR SESSION OF
11:52:49AM EACH MONTH BEGINNING WITH AN UPDATE ON 24 AND FLEET
11:52:55AM MAINTENANCE TO INCLUDE REPORTS ON TAMPA GENERAL,
11:52:59AM AND MR. MUTTERBACK, THE PROJECT MANAGER, TO KEEP A FORCEFUL
11:53:04AM EYE ON THIS.
11:53:05AM AGAIN, I -- AND WE SPOKE A LOT PRIVATELY FOR 45 MINUTES ON
11:53:09AM THE HISTORY OF IT.
11:53:10AM AND ANYTHING.
11:53:11AM AND I AM SURE YOU WEREN'T LOOKING FORWARD TO TODAY'S
11:53:15AM QUESTIONING YOU GOT -- YOU HAVE THICK SKIN.
11:53:17AM GOD BLESS YOU.
11:53:18AM THAT IS WHAT I AM GOING TO BE MOTIONING FOR.
11:53:21AM SOMETHING THAT A REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GOT TO MOVE
11:53:24AM FORWARD.
11:53:25AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, I EMPHASIZE THE REASON WE PUT A PRIORITY ON
11:53:28AM STATION 24 WAS BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF STATION 13, WHICH
11:53:32AM WAS, AGAIN, A BIG PRIORITY FOR CHIEF TRIP MOVING IT FORWARD
11:53:36AM AND FINISHING THE JOB.
11:53:37AM THE GOOD NEWS IS ONCE WE FINISH THIS, THE MEN AND WOMEN AT
11:53:41AM STATION 13 WILL HAVE THE REAL SUPPORT THEY NEED IN THE
11:53:46AM COMPLETED JOB.
11:53:47AM I WILL END AND I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK.
11:53:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:53:53AM THE FIRE STATIONS IN THE MID-50s.
11:53:55AM TAMPA UNDER A NEW PERIOD AND CEO AND ADMINISTRATION,
11:54:00AM ONE AFTER THE OTHER FIRE STATION.
11:54:02AM AND THEY WORKED WITH SWIFTNESS AND INVESTING IN FIRE.
11:54:06AM YOU KNOW.
11:54:06AM AND I JUST -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN MODERN TIMES.
11:54:11AM NOW IN 2025, BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING.
11:54:14AM AND AS EVERYTHING COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA SAID, THE DEMAND IS
11:54:19AM THERE.
11:54:19AM OUR CITY HAS GROWN MUCH.
11:54:21AM THE AMOUNT OF CALLS THESE STATIONS ARE RUNNING I THINK IS
11:54:25AM SUCH A NECESSARY THING, AND I AM GLAD THIS IS ON THE AGENDA
11:54:28AM TODAY WITH THE DESIGN-BUILD AND MOVING FORWARD AND
11:54:30AM EVERYTHING.
11:54:30AM SO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOUR MICROPHONE WAS ON FIRST AN
11:54:35AM THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:54:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE HE WITH
11:54:39AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:54:42AM MAYBE I WILL SAY IT A LITTLE BIT STRONGER.
11:54:46AM FRUSTRATED TAKING THREE TO FOUR YEARS TO GO FORWARD.
11:54:49AM NOT BLAMING THE TWO OF YOU, BUT FRUSTRATING IN A LOT OF WAYS
11:54:53AM THAT IT HAVEN'T GONE FORWARD.
11:54:54AM NOT IN MY DISTRICT BUT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND THE UNION
11:54:57AM AND OTHERS CLEARLY SHOW THE NEED FOR THIS.
11:55:00AM AND NOW WE NEEDED TO IMPROVE RESPONSE TIMES.
11:55:04AM I SUPPORTED IT MULTIPLE TIMES LIKE MY COLLEAGUES DID.
11:55:08AM AND IN THE CITY ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING OF PEOPLE'S
11:55:12AM LIVES, IT DOESN'T HAVE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES AND WE NEED TO
11:55:15AM MAKE SURE PEOPLE SUPPORT IT.
11:55:16AM FRUSTRATING THING BESIDES HOW LONG THIS HAS TAKEN IS THAT
11:55:22AM THE UNION AND OTHER EXPERTS HAVE BEEN DEMANDING ADDITIONAL
11:55:25AM STATIONS IN PLACES LIKE DOWNTOWN AND SOUTH TAMPA.
11:55:31AM YOU KNOW WE NEED SOME KIND OF MARINE UNIT.
11:55:33AM STATION BY ME AND NICK.
11:55:35AM IF THE TRUCK GOES OUT, THERE IS LESS COVERAGE IN OUR AREA.
11:55:38AM THEY HAVE ASKED -- THEY HAVE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL VEHICLES.
11:55:42AM THEY WOULD ASK FOR STAGING DEBRIS REHAB TO PREVENT AIR
11:55:46AM POLLUTION, OTHER ISSUES.
11:55:48AM THEY HAVE ASKED FOR NEW EQUIPMENT.
11:55:50AM AND IT FEELS LIKE SOME OF THAT HAS MOVED FORWARD AND FEELS
11:55:53AM LIKE HAS BACKED UP BECAUSE OF THIS.
11:55:58AM I HOPE THAT THIS -- THIS MOVING FORWARD.
11:56:00AM FIRST OF ALL, I HOPE IT MOVES FORWARD BECAUSE OF A NEED THREE
11:56:04AM YEARS AGO AND EVEN MORE OF A NEED NOW.
11:56:06AM BUT AS THIS GOES FORWARD, I HOPE WE CAN RELEASE ALL THE
11:56:09AM OTHER PROJECTS THAT NEED TO GO FORWARD AND START MOVING
11:56:12AM QUICKLY ON THEM, BECAUSE IT IS NOT FAIR TO OUR FIRE
11:56:17AM FIGHTERS.
11:56:17AM AND IT IS NOT FAIR TO OUR CITIZENS THAT WE HAVEN'T INVESTED
11:56:20AM IN FIRE SAFETY THE WAY WE SHOULD HAVE.
11:56:22AM THANK YOU.
11:56:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND HURTAK.
11:56:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:56:28AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP STAGING.
11:56:29AM PART OF THE PROBLEM WE HAVE SEEN FOR THE TWO YEARS NOW --
11:56:32AM ALMOST TWO YEARS I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
11:56:34AM IT IS KIND OF LIKE SCATTERED APPROACH.
11:56:36AM AND I THINK CHIEF TRIPP HAS ATTEMPTED TO COME FORWARD WITH A
11:56:41AM SCHEDULE AND APPROACH OF WHAT WE HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH.
11:56:45AM AND WITH ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE -- WE HAVE TO DO A, B, C, D,
11:56:53AM AND E BEFORE WE ACCOMPLISH IT.
11:56:54AM AND DIFFICULT FOR SEVEN OF US TO HERD CATS TO BE ABLE TO
11:56:57AM STAY FOCUSED ON AN AGENDA AND BE THAT KIND -- INJECT THAT KIND
11:57:01AM OF LOGIC INTO THIS PROCESS.
11:57:03AM WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY REVISIT THAT.
11:57:07AM JUST LIKE THE DOWNTOWN THING.
11:57:09AM HOPEFULLY, WE MOVED PAST THE IDEA OF ADDITIONAL STATION AND
11:57:13AM MORE INTO THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE ROOM AT FIRE
11:57:17AM STATION 1 AND THAT AND LOOK TOWARD THE FUTURE FOR A NEED
11:57:21AM ASSESSMENT WHAT WE NEED DOWN THERE.
11:57:23AM PROBABLY THE DIRECTION OF WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH A COST
11:57:28AM BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
11:57:30AM STAY FOCUSED IN THIS DIRECTION AND FACILITATE IN THE MOST
11:57:34AM MORE EXPEDITIOUS WAY.
11:57:37AM I SHARE SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION.
11:57:39AM YOU ALL KNOW I AM A PASSIONATE ADVOCATE FOR MASS TRANSIT,
11:57:47AM TRANSPORTATION, AND STREETCAR.
11:57:48AM THE PATH IS SLOW.
11:57:50AM IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I GET MONTHLY UPDATES FROM THE STAFF OF
11:57:53AM WHERE WE ARE FROM THE STREETCAR EXPANSION.
11:57:55AM AND MAYBE INSTEAD -- A LOT OF TIME AT LEAST COUNCIL MEETINGS
11:58:00AM DRAGGING ON FOREVER, BECAUSE -- ESPECIALLY AT IN TIME OF THE
11:58:04AM PROCESS, THAT IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL EVERY THREE MONTHS
11:58:07AM AND YOU GET A PERSONAL BRIEFING EVERY MONTH ON THIS
11:58:10AM PROGRESS.
11:58:11AM BECAUSE THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS -- BUT EVERY 30 DAY IS
11:58:17AM KIND OF -- NOT A LOT OF MOVEMENT IN A 30-DAY PROCESS, WITH
11:58:21AM WHERE QUARTERLY THERE IS.
11:58:22AM I THINK AS FAR AS EFFICIENT USE OF TIME.
11:58:24AM THAT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF CITY COUNCIL TIME WILL BE
11:58:28AM MY SUGGESTION.
11:58:29AM AND IF ANYBODY WANTS THE PERSONAL UPDATES.
11:58:31AM THEY CAN GET PERSONAL UPDATES.
11:58:33AM FOR COUNCIL'S TIME MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFICIENT STAFF TIME.
11:58:37AM ALL OF THOSE THINGS TAKE UP AN AWFUL AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME AND
11:58:44AM MOVE THESE PROJECTS FORWARD.
11:58:45AM THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
11:58:46AM WHO IS NEXT.
11:58:47AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:58:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:58:49AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION THAT HAS OCCURRED.
11:58:51AM AND THAT HAS REALLY BEEN ABOUT TIMELINE.
11:58:54AM I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT MONEY.
11:58:55AM BECAUSE 24 MILLION FOR A FIRE STATION IS JUST SIMPLY NOT
11:58:59AM WHAT I SEE WHEN I HAVE ASKED AROUND.
11:59:03AM BY AND LARGE, WE ARE LOOKING AT AN 11,000-SQUARE-FOOT FIRE
11:59:10AM STATION.
11:59:10AM AND WE -- MR. MUTTERBACK AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS BACK AND
11:59:20AM FORTH THIS MORNING.
11:59:20AM AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE SAID WAS THAT MOST PEOPLE CAME IN
11:59:23AM AROUND $11 MILLION FOR THEIR.
11:59:25AM AND AT THAT THE -- AT THAT, THAT IS $1,000 A SQUARE FOOT.
11:59:33AM CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT FIRST BEFORE I --
11:59:36AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: THAT $11 MILLION TO $24 MILLION
11:59:43AM CONSTRUCTION COST IS EVERYTHING.
11:59:43AM IT IS NOT YOUR COST PER SQUARE FOOTAGE, STEEL AND CONCRETE
11:59:49AM TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
11:59:50AM BASICALLY THE BUILDING DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY OF THE
11:59:56AM SITE IMPROVEMENT.
11:59:57AM IS THAT SKEWS THAT NUMBER JUST A LITTLE BIT.
11:59:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO
12:00:02PM FLUSH THAT OUT WHICH IS WHY I AM ASKING NOW.
12:00:04PM MY OTHER QUESTION.
12:00:05PM THAT THIS $11 MILLION.
12:00:06PM WHERE IS THE OTHER $13 MILLION COMING, GOING?
12:00:10PM WHY DO WE NEED 13 MORE MILLION.
12:00:13PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS
12:00:17PM BUDGETED?
12:00:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:00:18PM >RICHARD MUTTERBACK: THIS 6.2348 FOR DESIGN AND $11 MILLION
12:00:24PM TO $14 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION UP TO POTENTIALLY $16
12:00:28PM MILLION TO $17 MILLION.
12:00:30PM AND YOU HAVE FURNISHINGS AND EQUIPMENT OUTSIDE OF WHAT WOULD
12:00:33PM NORMALLY BE THERE THROUGH T&I.
12:00:38PM AND I CAN, IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS THERE AN APPARATUS --
12:00:41PM THERE IS A TRUCK INVOLVED FOR THE STATION, I THINK.
12:00:44PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I THINK THEY PUT ONE IN.
12:00:47PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE IT --
12:00:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WILL HAVE TO COME UP TO THE
12:00:51PM MICROPHONE, MISS TRIPP.
12:00:52PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: MY APOLOGY SEE -- APOLOGY.
12:00:59PM FOR REPLACEMENT, WE HAVE ONE ORDERED.
12:01:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN TAKE VEHICLES OUT OF IT.
12:01:06PM BECAUSE WHAT I AM SEEING -- WHAT I FOUND IS THAT IN ASKING
12:01:09PM -- I ASKED MISS KOPESKY TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT OTHER STATIONS
12:01:14PM WERE AROUND HERE.
12:01:15PM OR THAT ARE BEING BUILT.
12:01:16PM AND SO THE CITY OF BRADENTON IS BUILDING ONE THAT WILL BE
12:01:20PM DONE IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR AND IT IS 15,000
12:01:26PM SQUARE FEET AND BUILDING IT FOR $7.9 MILLION.
12:01:29PM PALM COAST HAS ONE THAT WILL BE DONE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR
12:01:32PM AS WELL.
12:01:33PM SAME THING.
12:01:33PM QUARTER FOUR, 2025, 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND THERE IS MORE.
12:01:39PM THEIRS IS DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTION IS $11.4 MILLION.
12:01:44PM SOUNDS LIKE THE $11.4 MILLION IS RIGHT AND WHAT I AM LOOKING
12:01:49PM FORWARD AND I BELIEVE THAT MISS -- MISS SHARP JUST GAVE YOU
12:01:52PM THE -- THE SPREADSHEET THAT I HAVE GOT -- OH, SHE HAS IT.
12:01:56PM FROM KOKOLAKIS FROM THE TPD INBOUND LOT.
12:02:02PM THEY HAD A SPREADSHEET THAT BROKE TO DOWN.
12:02:05PM THEY WEREN'T SURE AND I WANTED TO KNOW.
12:02:07PM WHAT ARE DETAILED IN THIS.
12:02:09PM KOKOLAKIS IS WORKING ON TWO OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF
12:02:14PM TAMPA.
12:02:14PM THEY ARE WORKING ON THE TPD ANNEX INBOUND LOT THAT WILL
12:02:20PM NOT BE A INBOUND LOT AND SOUTHWEST FACILITIES.
12:02:24PM LOOKING AT THEIR FEE OF $2.3 MILLION THAT WE ARE APPROVING
12:02:28PM TODAY, THEIR -- THEIR SHARE OF THAT IS 21% OF THE -- OF THE
12:02:35PM $2.3 MILLION.
12:02:36PM BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE SHARE FOR THE TPD INBOUND LOT.
12:02:44PM THEIR SHARE IS ONLY 14.7%.
12:02:46PM LOOKING AT THE SOUTHWEST RELOCATION, WHICH IS A GIGANTIC
12:02:50PM THING.
12:02:50PM THAT ONLY 12.7 %.
12:02:52PM AND I AM WONDERING WHY -- AND THESE ARE RECENT.
12:02:56PM THINGS WE JUST DID.
12:02:58PM IF IT IS 12.7% FOR THIS GIANT SOLID WASTE RELOCATION AND
12:03:04PM 13.7% FOR THE INPUT LOT THAT IS NOT AN INBOUND LOT.
12:03:08PM SORRY IT IS ON -- WRITTEN ON THERE.
12:03:11PM THAT IS WHY I WAS READING 21.1% FOR COST, FOR THIS PROJECT
12:03:19PM WILL.
12:03:19PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: CAN I BACK UP TO YOUR PREVIOUS
12:03:25PM STATEMENT?
12:03:26PM FIRE STATIONS OPENED UNDER AND BUILT THIS YEAR, AGREEMENTS
12:03:28PM WERE PLACED IN '25 AND '21.
12:03:31PM ALL THESE PROJECTS TAKE THREE YEARS.
12:03:33PM BASING THAT OFF OF NUMBERS ON 2021.
12:03:35PM NUMBERS OF 2021 DO NOT REFLECT NUMBERS TODAY.
12:03:38PM DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
12:03:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT DOES, BUT --
12:03:44PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: ONE POTENTIAL EXPLANATION.
12:03:49PM ALSO LOCALITY.
12:03:50PM A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN COME INTO PLAY IN HERE.
12:03:53PM AS FAR AS THE PRECONSTRUCTION SERVICES ON -- THESE PROJECTS
12:03:56PM ARE -- THEY ARE SITE-SPECIFIC.
12:03:59PM THEY ARE PROJECT-SPECIFIC.
12:04:01PM AS FAR AS THE SPREADSHEET THAT BREAKS DOWN EVERYTHING IN THE
12:04:06PM -- FOR THIS AGREEMENT, I -- I DO HAVE THAT COMING TO YOU.
12:04:10PM I DID NOT HAVE MY -- I HAVE TO GET THAT FROM KOKOLAKIS.
12:04:16PM THEY HAVE IT TO BREAK DOWN ALL OF THOSE.
12:04:18PM THIS PARTICULAR SITE -- THIS IS A BRAND-NEW SITE.
12:04:23PM NOTHING ON IT.
12:04:24PM VACANT SITE.
12:04:26PM THERE ARE STORMWATER ISSUES.
12:04:28PM WETLANDS.
12:04:29PM ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
12:04:30PM [BUZZER]
12:04:34PM SO -- IT IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES.
12:04:36PM YOU CAN'T SPARE.
12:04:37PM SERVICE FEES FOR KOKOLAKIS, THAT'S HOW MUCH INVOLVEMENT.
12:04:43PM HOW MUCH INVOLVEMENT WE WILL HAVE ON THIS PROJECT AND MORE
12:04:46PM COMPLEX SITE AND MORE -- MORE PEOPLE ON THEIR TEAM TO MANAGE
12:04:52PM ACROSS THE ANYTHING.
12:04:53PM THAT IS WHERE THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY, THAT DIFFERENCE
12:04:56PM WILL BE.
12:04:56PM IT IS NOT A CUT AND DRY DIFFERENCE PERCENTAGE WIDE PROJECT
12:05:00PM TO PROJECT.
12:05:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THAT IS MY RESPONSIBLE
12:05:04PM AS A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR A PROBABLY THAT IS THIS EXPENSIVE
12:05:07PM FOR WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN OTHER AREAS THAT IS HALF THE
12:05:12PM PRICE.
12:05:12PM IF I DON'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS NOW, I MEAN THIS IS -- WE
12:05:16PM CAN'T MOVE FORWARD DOING I DON'T KNOW HUE WE CAN AFFORD
12:05:23PM BUILD $24 MILLION FIRE STATIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
12:05:27PM I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
12:05:28PM BECAUSE WE NEED TO BUILD MORE FIRE STATIONS AND WE NEED TO
12:05:31PM FIND A MORE COST EFFECTIVE MANNER TO DO IT.
12:05:33PM RIGHT NOW WE ALSO HAVE IN THE GREAT EIGHT, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC
12:05:39PM SAFETY TRAIN FACILITY RENOVATION FOR 17,000 SQUARE FEET ONLY
12:05:42PM COSTING $13 MILLION JUST -- IT IS GLARINGLY DIFFERENT.
12:05:49PM SO I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE THE SPREADSHEET
12:05:53PM REPORT.
12:05:53PM AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, WITH ALL THE MONEY IS
12:05:56PM GOING.
12:05:57PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: RELATED TO THE INITIAL SERVICE
12:06:01PM AGREEMENT $2.3 MILLION.
12:06:03PM AND HAVE TO DEVELOP IT PART OF THE DESIGN OF WHAT IT WILL
12:06:06PM BE.
12:06:06PM TO CLARIFY IN CITY COUNCIL IN MY RESPONSE REGARDING THE
12:06:11PM COST.
12:06:11PM I CAN'T SPEAK WHY THINGS COST SO MUCH, BUT IN THOSE
12:06:15PM ESTIMATES, FIRE AND CAD WENT TO ORLANDO TO SEE ONE OF THEIR
12:06:20PM BRAND-NEW FOUR BAY STATIONS THAT JUST GOT UP.
12:06:24PM SEVERAL PHONE CALLS WITH HILLSBOROUGH FIRE TALKING OF
12:06:26PM STATIONS THEY HAVE BUILT RECENTLY AND IN THE PROCESS OF
12:06:29PM BUILDING.
12:06:29PM AND ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE FOUR QUALIFIED PRESENTERS FOR THIS
12:06:35PM AREA THAT COME TO TAMPA AND ALL GAVE US THE VERY SAME RANGE.
12:06:39PM I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHY IT COST SO MUCH, BUT IT IS THE COST
12:06:43PM THAT WE ARE SEEING.
12:06:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
12:06:45PM SO, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN
12:06:51PM -- I DON'T KNOW, I AM JUST HAVING A HARD TIME YOU SAYING
12:06:54PM THAT IT WILL COST -- THAT FOLKS ARE SAYING IT WILL COST $21
12:06:58PM MILLION AND THEN THE 24 MILLION.
12:07:01PM A DIFFERENTIAL.
12:07:04PM THAT'S IT.
12:07:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:07:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT IS RELATED TO THAT.
12:07:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BRING UP MR. STOCCO.
12:07:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT. IF MR. STOCCO WANTED
12:07:23PM TO COME FORWARD?
12:07:23PM I KNOW HE DOES.
12:07:24PM >> HEY, GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
12:07:28PM NICK STOCCO THE OF LOCAL 754, TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS.
12:07:31PM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE SPEAK TODAY AND OVER
12:07:33PM THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND MONTHS.
12:07:35PM I WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FROM
12:07:38PM CONTRACT ADMIN TO JEAN DUNCAN, BRAD BAIRD, RICHARD
12:07:44PM MUTTERBACK AND ALL THOSE WHO EXPLAINED THE PROCESS THEY ARE
12:07:47PM EXPLAINING.
12:07:48PM A TIMELINE PURPOSE, WE ARE WONDERING THE SAME THING.
12:07:52PM HOW DID WE GET HERE SO FAR LATE IN THE GAME.
12:07:55PM WITH THIS WAS CIP 2021 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHY HERE
12:07:59PM IN 2025 HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSIONS.
12:08:01PM LOOKING IN THE REAR VIEW, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE
12:08:04PM FORWARD.
12:08:04PM WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
12:08:06PM AND THE BUDGETARY QUESTIONS ARE VALID.
12:08:09PM IF THE DESIGN-BUILD AGREEMENT IS $2.5 MILLION OR $2.6 MILLION.
12:08:18PM AND FOR A 1,000-SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY LOOKING AT $13 MILLION
12:08:23PM OR $14 MILLION, WHERE IS THE OTHER $10 MILLION?
12:08:27PM A TRUCK COMPANY COULD BE $2 MILLION, A RESCUE CAN BE
12:08:31PM $600,000; HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T EQUATE TO $10 MILLION TO $11
12:08:35PM MILLION.
12:08:35PM I THINK THOSE ARE VALID QUESTIONS I HOPE TO HAVE THOSE
12:08:38PM DISCUSSIONS AND GET THOSE ANSWERS.
12:08:40PM I WOULD CHALLENGE TO SAY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AND
12:08:43PM LOOK BACKWARD AND SAY HOW MUCH DID IT ACTUALLY COST, RIGHT.
12:08:46PM TO SEE IF THE NUMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN ARE -- ARE SUPPORTED.
12:08:50PM BUT I DO WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF FOR
12:08:55PM AFFORDING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THOSE TIMELINE BURNS
12:08:58PM FROM THE LEGAL CCN PROCESS.
12:09:00PM THEY HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB ON EDUCATING AND INFORMING
12:09:04PM US.
12:09:05PM BUT WE CAN'T LOOK FORWARD.
12:09:06PM LET'S -- WE CAN'T LOOK BACKWARDS, LET'S LOOK FORWARD.
12:09:10PM LET'S MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD IT.
12:09:14PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WANTING TO DO
12:09:16PM THE MONTHLY.
12:09:17PM THE 30 DAYS.
12:09:18PM LET'S PUT SOME PRESSURE.
12:09:19PM MAYBE PUT PRESSURE ON THEM MONTHLY, BUT PUBLICLY THE
12:09:22PM QUARTERLY MAY BE MORE PRODUCTIVE, UNDERSTANDING THAT
12:09:26PM CONSTRUCTION, NOT MUCH GETS DONE OVER 30 DAYS UNLESS WE GO
12:09:30PM OUT AND HELP THEM BUILD IT.
12:09:31PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:09:32PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE.
12:09:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, BEFORE YOU MAKE
12:09:36PM YOUR MOTION.
12:09:36PM ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW UP -- IT IS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
12:09:39PM COMMITTEE.
12:09:39PM AND THEN MOVE 22.
12:09:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MAKE THAT --
12:09:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE WELCOME TO.
12:09:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE THE ITEM -- 22 WAS IT?
12:09:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
12:09:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 22, WHICH
12:09:50PM WAS PULLED FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
12:09:52PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:09:54PM LET'S GET A ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:09:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:10:07PM >>CLERK: CLERK HENDERSON?
12:10:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, YES.
12:10:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:10:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:10:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:10:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:10:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:10:17PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:10:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU HAVE --
12:10:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:10:23PM AND MR. STOCCO STAYED AND STAFF INCLUDING MR. MUTTERBACK
12:10:27PM BECAUSE SPENT A LOT OF TIME.
12:10:29PM YESTERDAY OR -- LONG WEEK.
12:10:32PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:10:33PM THIS IS TO PROMOTE THE AGENDA WITH VIGOR THAT I KNOW CHIEF
12:10:38PM TRIPP AND THE UNION HAS MOVED FORWARD ON WITH REGARD TO
12:10:42PM NORTH TAMPA THAT STARTED BACK IN 2022.
12:10:45PM SO THIS KIND OF FINISHES IT, WHICH IS GREAT.
12:10:47PM SO WHAT I AM GOING TO DO COUNCIL IS MAKE A MOTION FOR
12:10:51PM QUARTERLY IN-PERSON REPORTS.
12:10:53PM AND OTHERWISE WRITTEN, LIKE EVERY MONTH, IF THAT IS GOOD.
12:10:57PM AND I CAN MEET WITH FOLKS AND WHOEVER WANTS TO CAN JUST -- I
12:11:01PM REALLY WANT TO KEEP THIS ON THE FOREFRONT FOR OBVIOUS
12:11:05PM REASONS LIKE WE HAVE.
12:11:06PM SO I MOTION FOR MONTHLY REPORTS.
12:11:10PM QUARTERLY IN PERSON.
12:11:18PM TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE REGULAR SESSION, WHICH WILL BE IN
12:11:23PM WRITING WITH AN UPDATE ON STATION 23 AND FLEET MAINTENANCE
12:11:26PM STATION TO INCLUDE REPORTS FROM CHIEF -- SORRY, 24 -- FROM
12:11:29PM CHIEF TRIPP, MR. MUTTERBACK AND HIS OFFICE AND THE PROJECT
12:11:32PM MANAGER AND THIS WILL INCLUDE UPDATES ON THE DATE FOR
12:11:36PM GROUNDBREAKING.
12:11:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
12:11:39PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:11:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
12:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:11:43PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:11:44PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WAS THE SECOND.
12:11:46PM SORRY.
12:11:47PM ALL IN FAVOR.
12:11:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU HAVE TO YOU DO A ROLL CALL, I
12:11:53PM THOUGHT.
12:11:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO ROLL CALL.
12:11:56PM IT IS VIERA, MIRANDA.
12:11:58PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:11:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
12:12:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:12:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:12:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:12:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:12:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:12:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:12:11PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:12:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANKS.
12:12:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I?
12:12:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:12:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHILE WE ARE ON THIS TOPIC.
12:12:21PM YOUR MOTION WAS ON THE STATUS OF FIRE STATION 24?
12:12:26PM GREAT.
12:12:26PM I WOULD LIKE TO DO A SEPARATE ONE FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE.
12:12:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: I INCLUDED THAT, BUT --
12:12:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT SEPARATE ONLY BECAUSE
12:12:34PM WE ARE -- WE ARE AT A DIFFERENT POINT.
12:12:36PM SO I AM ACTUALLY HAVING A QUESTION FOR MISS VAN LOAN BECAUSE
12:12:39PM I SEE HER IN THE BACK.
12:12:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAME EARLY AND I SPOTTED YOU, SO I AM
12:12:52PM GOING TO ASK.
12:12:52PM WE HAVE BEEN GIFTED THE WONDERFUL NEWS OF KNOWING THAT WE
12:12:55PM HAVE AN OFFER.
12:12:56PM CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY TELL US, YOU KNOW, ON THE AVERAGE, WHAT
12:13:02PM DOES IT TAKE FROM BETWEEN OFFER TO CLOSING ON A PROPERTY?
12:13:08PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE.
12:13:12PM OUR GOAL IS TO BRING YOU THAT CONTRACT FEBRUARY 20 PENDING
12:13:15PM ALL THE DOTTING OF Is AND CROSSING OF TS ON MARCH 26.
12:13:23PM CONTRACT WILL INCLUDE TWO 30-DAY OR 60-DAY EXTENSION.
12:13:29PM ONLY THE REASON WE NEED AN EXTENSION IF THE PHASE ONE
12:13:32PM ENVIRONMENTAL COME BACK AND SAY WE NEED A PHASE TWO.
12:13:36PM A TOPO OR TREE SURVEY.
12:13:38PM IF WE RUN INTO ISSUES WITH OUR DUE DILIGENCE WE WILL NEED TO
12:13:43PM EXTEND AND OTHERWISE FOR A 60-DAY CLOSING.
12:13:46PM ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE COMES BACK CLEAN.
12:13:48PM AND CLOSE 60 DAYS FROM WHEN THE MAYOR SIGNS A CONTRACT AFTER
12:13:52PM YOU APPROVED THE CONTRACT.
12:13:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A NICE -- MR. MUTTERBACK IS STANDING
12:13:58PM THERE SAYING HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TOO.
12:13:59PM BUT SOUNDS LIKE WORST-CASE SCENARIO IF ALL GOES --
12:14:06PM [KNOCKING]
12:14:06PM -- WELL.
12:14:07PM FOUR MONTHS SOMEBODY A GOOD BALLPARK.
12:14:09PM MR. MUTTERBACK.
12:14:12PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: YES, RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT
12:14:17PM ADMINISTRATION.
12:14:17PM BEFORE YOU PICK THAT DATE AND REPORT ON THE PROGRESS.
12:14:21PM WE PROACTIVELY -- WE HAVE A PRESENTATION NEXT THURSDAY FOR A
12:14:23PM FIRM TO DO AN OVERALL ASSESSMENT OF THE NEED OF FIRE AND
12:14:27PM FLEET, WHICH WOULD GO INTO -- YOU KNOW, GOING -- ONE OF
12:14:30PM THOSE PRELIMINARY REPORTS SO JUST -- I JUST WANTED TO LET
12:14:35PM YOU KNOW THAT.
12:14:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU WERE ANSWERING MY NEXT QUESTION.
12:14:40PM WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MOVE FORWARD STARTING IT NOW THAT WE
12:14:43PM FOCUSED ON THE SITE AND YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
12:14:45PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: THAT ASSESSMENT -- WE ARE HAVING THOSE
12:14:54PM PRESENTATIONS NEXT WEEK.
12:14:54PM A NEEDS ANALYSIS, SPATIAL ANALYSIS.
12:14:57PM PART OF THAT WAS TO ASSIST ON PROPERTY ACQUISITION, BUT NOW
12:15:00PM THAT SCOPE WILL SHIFT TO THE SPATIAL ANALYSIS OF THIS
12:15:04PM PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND ITS FEASIBILITY.
12:15:07PM THAT -- WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA ONCE WE GET THAT
12:15:10PM AGREEMENT IN PLACE AND THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU AND THEN WE
12:15:12PM WILL KNOW THE TIME NEEDED FOR THAT.
12:15:15PM THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT STARTING THE PROCESS OF
12:15:18PM THE RFQ.
12:15:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
12:15:21PM I WILL LEAVE THAT UNDER MR. VIERA FOR NOW, AND IF WE NEED TO
12:15:24PM TEASE THAT OUT.
12:15:25PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: I CAN GIVE UPDATES ON THAT.
12:15:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL AS PART OF THAT.
12:15:32PM BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO -- WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THIS
12:15:35PM BALL FASTER THAN THE OTHER ONE.
12:15:38PM THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
12:15:39PM AND MR. STOCCO, WHILE YOU ARE HERE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING
12:15:42PM THAT YOU WANT TO ADD ABOUT THAT?
12:15:47PM AND CHIEF TRIPP?
12:15:50PM IF ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.
12:15:51PM SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE ALREADY WORKING WITH FLEET ON THAT.
12:15:54PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, NICK STOCCO, TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS,
12:15:58PM PRESIDENT.
12:15:58PM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP WITH FLEET MAINTENANCE AND
12:16:01PM CHANNELSIDE.
12:16:02PM I HAD CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND YOURSELF
12:16:04PM THE OTHER NIGHT.
12:16:05PM AND I DID BRIEFLY MENTION IT TO THE CFO.
12:16:09PM AS MUCH AS WE LIKE TO SAY THANKS, WE LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE
12:16:13PM CHALLENGE AS WELL.
12:16:14PM IF WE CAN INCLUDE MULTIPLE PROJECTS IN THAT RF Q SO THE CCN
12:16:18PM -- SORRY IF I MESSED UP THE ABBREVIATION WILL INCLUDE MORE
12:16:23PM THAN ONE PROJECT BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE LONGEST PIECE
12:16:26PM TO IT.
12:16:27PM MAYBE OVER A TIME SPAN -- SHALL SOME KIND OF -- IFT BE
12:16:30PM INCLUDED IN THAT RFQ, MAYBE BOTH OF THOSE PROJECT, FLEET
12:16:34PM MAINTENANCE AND CHANNELSIDE TO GET DONE WITHIN THAT X AMOUNT
12:16:38PM OF TIME TO INCLUDE MULTIPLE PROJECTS IN THAT RFQ AS KIND OF
12:16:42PM A PROMISE.
12:16:43PM WE DO GIVE CHALLENGE BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
12:16:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:16:47PM THAT BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT AND A CHALLENGE I WILL GIVE TO
12:16:50PM MY COLLEAGUES.
12:16:51PM LITERALLY EVERY TIME SOMEBODY COMES TO TALK TO ME ABOUT ANY
12:16:55PM TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THEY WANT TO DO A PRE- - THIS IS WHAT
12:16:59PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THINKING ABOUT.
12:17:00PM I BRING UP A FIRE STATION EVERY SINGLE TIME.
12:17:02PM WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO WORK ON IT.
12:17:05PM I AM SURE HE ALREADY DOES THAT WELL.
12:17:07PM THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
12:17:08PM I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THE FLEET IS MOVING ALONG.
12:17:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE TALKED OF STAYING UNTIL 12:30.
12:17:18PM SQUEEZE IN 68.
12:17:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT SHOULD BE VERY QUICK, I THINK.
12:17:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF TRIPP, IT SAID YOU WILL APPEAR IN
12:17:24PM PERSON TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PUBLIC SAFETY
12:17:27PM RECORDS REQUEST DONE BY LOCAL 754.
12:17:30PM AND MR. STOCCO IS HERE.
12:17:32PM SINCE WE ARE ALL HERE TOGETHER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME
12:17:35PM BACK AFTER LUNCH.
12:17:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: HE IS HERE.
12:17:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF TRIPP, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO START
12:17:50PM IT OFF.
12:17:50PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: JUST TRYING TO PULL MY NOTES UP HERE.
12:17:58PM SORRY.
12:18:16PM CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
12:18:20PM I GUESS THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE RECORD REQUEST BY LOCAL 754.
12:18:28PM THE RECORDS -- ONE OF THE SESSIONS THAT I KNOW THAT
12:18:31PM PRESIDENT STOCCO IS INQUIRING IS FOR DATA FOR 2022, 2023 AND
12:18:37PM 2024.
12:18:38PM THAT IS DATA THAT DOESN'T EXIST WITHOUT CREATING A RECORD.
12:18:41PM BASICALLY WHEN YOU ASK FOR A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST.
12:18:44PM THE REASON AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS QUOTED THIS IS
12:18:49PM INFORMATION THAT INDIVIDUALS WILL HAVE TO GO IN BECAUSE OF
12:18:51PM THE OUTDATED EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE.
12:18:53PM WE HAVE A CAD SYSTEM, OF COURSE, 30 YEARS OLD.
12:18:56PM THE INFORMATION THAT I DO HAVE AVAILABLE IS '18, '19, '20
12:19:04PM AND '21.
12:19:05PM ACTUALLY '17.
12:19:06PM AND IT WAS THE DATA THAT CREATED WHEN I DID THE NEED
12:19:09PM ANALYSIS IN '21 AND '22.
12:19:15PM IF THIS ADDITIONAL DATA IS NEEDED WHY WE GAVE THE QUOTE.
12:19:19PM NOT LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO UP-PRICE SOMETHING.
12:19:21PM AND TACK TIME FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THAT DATA
12:19:24PM AND GET THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS MANUAL.
12:19:27PM NOT TO MENTION THE DATA THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING BECAUSE THE
12:19:31PM SYSTEM IS OUTDATED.
12:19:32PM IT'S -- IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT IS HIT OR MISS
12:19:36PM BECAUSE WHEN INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO GO ON THE AIR TO GO TO
12:19:39PM RESPOND TO THE CALL ON SCENE AVAILABLE.
12:19:42PM OF COURSE THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR RADIO TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF
12:19:45PM THEIR OUTDATED EQUIPMENT.
12:19:46PM AND A LOT OF TIME THAT DISPATCH IS NOT AVAILABLE, THEY TELL
12:19:49PM ME PUT ME AVAILABLE TWO MINUTES AGO, FIVE MINUTES AGO, TEN
12:19:54PM MINUTES AGO.
12:19:55PM THAT DATA -- ONE WE GET THE NEW CAD SYSTEM IN.
12:19:59PM THANK YOU ALL FOR APPROVING THE CAD SYSTEM.
12:20:02PM WE HAD ONE MEETING AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING UP IN THE
12:20:05PM NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THIS DONE WITHIN THE
12:20:08PM NEXT 15 MONTHS AND, OF COURSE, STEPS ALONG THE WAY FOR THE
12:20:12PM CAD PROJECT.
12:20:13PM VIERA.
12:20:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I?
12:20:18PM I DIDN'T KNOW IF MR. STOCCO OR MR. BRODY IN ANYTHING TO SAY
12:20:24PM ON THIS.
12:20:24PM I WANTED TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
12:20:26PM CHIEF, I DID INTERRUPT YOU?
12:20:32PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WENT TO LEGAL TO FIND THE TYPICAL
12:20:34PM INFORMATION OF PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST.
12:20:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS, AND EVERYBODY
12:20:40PM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, 2018 UNDER A SEPARATE SYSTEM, THE
12:20:44PM UNION DID A SEPARATE REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AS WHICH THEY
12:20:47PM WORKED WITH THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS
12:20:49PM TO DO WHAT I CALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
12:20:51PM SO THE UNION WANTS THIS -- TO DOER THEIR OWN UPDATED ONE.
12:20:57PM I KNOW IN 2022, THE ADMINISTRATION DID THE FITZ REPORT FOR
12:21:03PM THEIR MASTER PLAN.
12:21:04PM AND IS DUE BEFORE COUNCIL IN 2025 THAT MOTIONED FOR.
12:21:09PM AND THE UNION WANTS THIS SO NICK HAVE THEIR OWN REPORT.
12:21:13PM SO MR. BRODY, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SIR, WHICH IS
12:21:17PM -- YOU ARE SAYING THAT THEY -- THE ADMINISTRATION CAN'T BE
12:21:21PM COMPELLED TO RESPOND TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST WITH THE
12:21:25PM CREATION OF A SEPARATE DOCUMENT.
12:21:27PM THE ONLY WAY TO GET THIS THROUGH PROSPECTIVELY A MOTION
12:21:30PM THROUGH COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO
12:21:33PM ACQUIRE THE INFORMATION.
12:21:34PM IS THAT YOUR LEGAL OPINION?
12:21:38PM >>CARL BRODY: CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:21:39PM YES, THE LAW PROVIDES THAT WE DON'T CREATE ANY RECORD.
12:21:45PM SO THOUGH RECORDS MIGHT EXIST IN ONE FORMAT, IF THEY DON'T
12:21:51PM EXIST IN THE REQUESTED FORMAT.
12:21:53PM IT IS NOT ABLE TO BE PROVIDED IN THAT MATTER.
12:21:58PM WHAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THE INSPECTION OPTION IS AVAILABLE
12:22:02PM FOR ANYONE TO COME IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL
12:22:05PM ELECTRONIC RECORDS THAT EXIST.
12:22:06PM MOVING FORWARD, I THINK THERE ARE OPTIONS.
12:22:12PM I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW IT WILL WORK WITH -- IN TERMS OF
12:22:17PM COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY RELATED TO FIRE DEPARTMENT AND -- AND
12:22:22PM THE ADMINISTRATION.
12:22:22PM BUT, IT WILL PROBABLY BE DISTINCT FROM A PUBLIC RECORDS
12:22:27PM REQUEST.
12:22:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. BRODY.
12:22:29PM AND MR. STOCCO, THE PROVISION OF POTENTIALLY INSPECTING THE
12:22:33PM RECORDS.
12:22:34PM WE MET ON THIS A FEW TIMES.
12:22:36PM WAS THAT'S A NO GO?
12:22:39PM IS THAT NOT A VIABLE OPTION FOR YOU ARE ALL TO GET THE
12:22:41PM INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED?
12:22:42PM >> YEAH, NICK STOCCO, TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS UNION PRESIDENT.
12:22:46PM A GREAT OPTION WE WERE PROVIDED; HOWEVER, THE SAME
12:22:52PM INFORMATION THAT IS TURNED IN WHEN A DEPARTMENT GOES TO GET
12:22:54PM ACCREDITED IF IT DOES.
12:22:56PM THE DEPARTMENT IS SUBMITTING INFORMATION TO GET CREDITED.
12:22:59PM MAYBE A GOOD TIME TO ASK FOR THAT STAPLE INFORMATION.
12:23:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS.
12:23:03PM THIS IS WHAT I AM GOING TO PROPOSE, COUNCIL.
12:23:05PM I AM GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU.
12:23:09PM AND AT THE END OF COUNCIL, MAKE A MOTION OF PART IN
12:23:12PM MORE TAILORED INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GET IF WE HAVE THAT
12:23:15PM AUTHORITY WHICH I THINK WE DO.
12:23:17PM AND THAT BE WOULD BE UNAVAILABLE THROUGH THE INSPECTION
12:23:25PM OPTION.
12:23:25PM DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
12:23:27PM >> YEAH, IT DOES.
12:23:27PM I THINK WE ARE GETTING THERE VERY CLOSELY.
12:23:29PM I THINK WE ARE GETTING THERE.
12:23:30PM AND HOPEFULLY TOGETHER, WE CAN CROSS THAT FINISH LINE.
12:23:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL TELL YOU THIS, COUNCIL.
12:23:35PM WE HAVE BEEN MEETING AN A LOT OF BRIDGES HAVE BEEN BUILT ON
12:23:38PM THIS I SHALL WHICH IS GOOD AND WE ARE ALMOST THERE.
12:23:41PM HELPFULLY THIS WE WILL TALK.
12:23:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:23:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, I AM KINDS OF A LABOR
12:23:49PM GUY.
12:23:49PM BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THAT LINE BETWEEN
12:23:51PM THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL AUTHORITY.
12:23:55PM SO DID YOU USE -- MAYBE BE THIS IS A PERSONNEL -- A JOINT
12:24:01PM UNDERSTANDING OF YOU.
12:24:02PM MAYBE BE THIS IS -- A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE
12:24:06PM INFORMATION -- IF THE LABOR ORGANIZATION NEEDS THIS FOR A
12:24:10PM NEXT OR -- OR A GRIEVANCE PROTECTION, THEY SHOULD BE
12:24:15PM ENTITLED TO THE INFORMATION THEY ARE REQUESTING, CORRECT?
12:24:18PM >>CARL BRODY: RIGHT, WE ARE NOT -- AGAIN, CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:24:21PM WE ARE NOT IN THAT CONTEXT RIGHT NOW.
12:24:23PM THAT IS WHEN YOU ARE IN AN OFFICIAL LABOR NEXT.
12:24:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVEN BE IN MIDTERM, AN ISSUER THAT IS
12:24:32PM PERTINENT TO THEIR CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT OR ALL THE
12:24:36PM COVERED ITEMS OF -- WOULDN'T BE THIS CONSIDERED A ULP IF IT
12:24:41PM WASN'T.
12:24:41PM IF WE DIDN'T PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT WAS PERMANENT SUBJECT
12:24:45PM TO THE CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT.
12:24:47PM >>CARL BRODY: NOT AT THIS POINT, INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS ON
12:24:51PM PROVIDING THESE RECORDS.
12:24:52PM SO IT IS IN THE CONTEXT OF A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST AT THIS
12:24:55PM POINT.
12:24:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
12:24:58PM NOT A LABOR MANAGEMENT --
12:25:01PM >>CARL BRODY: CORRECT.
12:25:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT.
12:25:04PM >>CARL BRODY: THAT IS STATIONARY.
12:25:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. STOCCO, WHY DID YOU CHOOSES TO USE
12:25:11PM PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND NOT THE LABOR AVENUE YOU HAVE
12:25:14PM AVAILABLE TO YOU TO REQUEST THAT INFORMATION.
12:25:17PM >> NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS FOUNDATION.
12:25:20PM WE MET WITH MANAGEMENT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
12:25:22PM AND WE REQUESTED THIS INFORMATION IN PERSON SEVERAL MONTHS
12:25:25PM OVER TIME.
12:25:25PM AND WE WERE DIRECTED BY THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION TO PUT IN A
12:25:29PM PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
12:25:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD URGE YOU TO YOU, ONE -- WAS IT IN
12:25:34PM WRITING OR VERBALLY?
12:25:35PM I WOULD URGE YOU TO GO THROUGH YOUR OPPORTUNITIES TO PUTS IT
12:25:39PM IN WRITING.
12:25:40PM SO YOU HAVE A LEGAL -- YOU HAVE A LEGAL BASIS OF BEING
12:25:44PM NEITHER EITHER APPROVED OR DENIED AND YOU HAVE RECOURSE.
12:25:50PM IF YOU USE THE POWER GIVEN TO YOU BY STATUTE.
12:25:55PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HINTED TO IT A LITTLE BIT TOO.
12:25:58PM A FINE LINE OF WHAT WE AS COUNCIL AND WHAT THE
12:26:01PM ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
12:26:04PM YOU HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE REPRESENTING YOUR
12:26:06PM BARGAINING UNITS AND USE THOSE RULES AND LAWS TO ACQUIRE
12:26:12PM THAT INFORMATION FOR THE ABILITY FOR YOUR WORKFORCE.
12:26:16PM >> THANK YOU.
12:26:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION AT THE END OF THE
12:26:19PM COUNCIL -- I WANT TO HAVE IT AS NARROW AS POSSIBLE.
12:26:24PM 70%.
12:26:27PM WE WILL TRY FOR THE 30%.
12:26:29PM I NEED TO FIRST SPEAK TO NICK ON IT AND TFR.
12:26:33PM WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT.
12:26:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:26:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE WE DONE FOR THIS ITEM FOR NOW?
12:26:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:26:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ONLY REQUEST WHEN WE COME BACK, 64 ALREADY
12:26:43PM 71 AND 72 HAVE TO DO WITH STORMWATER.
12:26:46PM AND GREAT IF WE CAN HEAR THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
12:26:48PM JUST A -- I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD 71 AND 72 TO 64, WHICH
12:26:54PM WILL BE NEXT WHEN WE GET BACK.
12:26:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL --
12:27:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I?
12:27:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:27:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: ITEM NUMBER 70 IS NOT MY MOTION.
12:27:05PM IT WAS MADE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
12:27:07PM AND IN TALKING TO SEVERAL FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, COUNCIL
12:27:14PM MEMBER GUDES, LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
12:27:17PM PROPOSAL BY THE COMMUNITY, EVEN THOSE IN FAVOR OF USING THIS
12:27:22PM GENTLEMAN'S NAME WANT TO KEEP THE NAME FAIR OAKS.
12:27:25PM A PROPOSAL FLOATED BY THE COMMUNITY TO NAME A BUILDING LIKE
12:27:28PM THE PROMENADE BUILDING AFTER MR. GAMBRELL.
12:27:35PM I THROW THAT ON TABLE FOR A DISCUSSION.
12:27:37PM NOT MY MOTION.
12:27:38PM IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO START THE PROCESS ON THAT, WE CAN
12:27:41PM TALK ABOUT IT.
12:27:42PM IF YOU DON'T, WE CAN END IT.
12:27:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER.
12:27:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. GUDES SAID IT TO ALL OF US AT.
12:27:52PM WITH FAIR OAKS WITH THE NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING NAMED
12:27:55PM ART BELL JR.
12:27:57PM MR. GRAHAM BELL HAD 45 YEARS WORKING DILIGENTLY
12:28:00PM AND HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HIS COMMUNITY TO GET JOBS IN
12:28:04PM THE CITY SO ON AND SO FORTH.
12:28:07PM AND THIS IS NOT UNIQUE.
12:28:08PM MANY YEARS AGO, IT WAS STEINBRENNER STADIUM.
12:28:11PM IT WAS YANKEE STADIUM.
12:28:12PM MYSELF AND ROSALIE AT THAT LED THE CHARGE TO CHANGE IT TO
12:28:18PM YANKEE STADIUM.
12:28:19PM GEORGE STEINBRENNER FIELD.
12:28:21PM THAT IS HOW IT STARTED.
12:28:22PM BASICALLY THE SAME THING.
12:28:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN.
12:28:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT AND WHAT I
12:28:28PM TRIED TO DO EARLIER FOR THE DISCUSSION.
12:28:30PM WE NEED TO REMOVE ITEM 70 FROM THE AGENDA SO THIS PARK
12:28:33PM REMAINS FAIR OAKS AND PLACE SAVING AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY
12:28:36PM UNDERSTANDS WHERE IT IS.
12:28:37PM AND I THINK -- AND MAYBE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:28:43PM WE HAVE A PROCESS.
12:28:44PM RENAMING BUILDING AND SOMETHING ELSE AS TRIBUTE TO
12:28:50PM MR. GAMBRELL SR. TO START THAT PROCESS AND SOMEBODY NEEDS
12:28:52PM TO TAKE OWNERSHIP TO WALK IT FLEW.
12:28:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO THIS RECEIVE AND FILE ON THE
12:28:57PM RECORD.
12:28:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:29:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:29:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXCUSE ME, HELLO.
12:29:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:29:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO RECEIVE AND FILE WITH AN E-MAIL.
12:29:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
12:29:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WILL ITEM 70 BE DISCUSSED AFTER LUNCH?
12:29:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT.
12:29:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
12:29:20PM I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PRIOR CONVERSATION PRIOR TO LUNCH
12:29:23PM HAPPENING NOW.
12:29:24PM AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.
12:29:27PM THE PUBLIC IS PROBABLY FOLLOWING THIS AS WELL.
12:29:30PM SOB RATHER THAN SPEAK TWICE, I WILL JUST WAIT UNTIL AFTER,
12:29:34PM BECAUSE I DO HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS REGARDING THIS.
12:29:37PM AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATION
12:29:42PM THAT EXISTS BE HEARD.
12:29:43PM WHILE I APPRECIATE THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER'S LETTER.
12:29:48PM HE IS NOW A PUBLIC CITIZEN AND HIS LETTER CAN BE ENTERED
12:29:52PM INTO THE RECORD, BUT TO READ IT PUBLICLY I THINK WILL BE
12:29:56PM INAPPROPRIATE.
12:29:56PM IF HE WANTS TO COME AND MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS, HE HAD AN
12:29:59PM OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT THIS MORNING.
12:30:00PM BUT TO HAVE HIM STAND OUT WITH A LETTER IS UNACCEPTABLE AS
12:30:03PM THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE.
12:30:04PM I AM SAYING THAT PUBLICLY AND SAYING THAT TO ALL OF MY
12:30:08PM COUNCILMEMBERS.
12:30:08PM I SEE IT AS A FORM OF DISRESPECT.
12:30:10PM NEVERTHELESS, WITH WE WILL DISCUSS THIS ITEM AFTER LUNCH AND
12:30:16PM CHAIR I WILL SPEAK AT THIS TIME REGARDING IT.
12:30:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:45.
12:30:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
01:51:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL CALL THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
01:51:29PM MEETING TO ORDER.
01:51:29PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
01:51:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:51:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:51:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:51:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:51:39PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:51:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
01:51:45PM HE UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WILL BE GETTING
01:51:47PM BACK ON.
01:51:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE OPEN THE 130
01:51:56PM HEARINGS.
01:51:56PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:51:58PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON IS HERE AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS
01:52:02PM ONLINE.
01:52:03PM ITEM NUMBER 56, THERE IS A LETTER REQUESTING THAT THIS BE
01:52:06PM CONTINUED --
01:52:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO A DATE TO BE DETERMINED?
01:52:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO DETERMINE THE DATE.
01:52:14PM >> MAY 15.
01:52:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 56 TO MAY 15.
01:52:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN -- WAIT A SECOND, I AM SORRY.
01:52:21PM SLOW THINGS DOWN IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:52:23PM THE PETITIONER, IF WE CAN HAVE THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD.
01:52:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
01:52:27PM WHAT IS YOUR NAME.
01:52:28PM >> CONSTANTINO COSTAS.
01:52:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE.
01:52:33PM MR. MICHELINI, HAD YOU REQUESTED THAT IN WRITING?
01:52:38PM OR YOU DID THAT?
01:52:40PM >> HE REQUESTED AND DETERMINED THE DATE ACCORDING TO STAFF
01:52:45PM MAY 15.
01:52:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AN AVAILABLE DATE, MADAM.
01:52:48PM >>CLERK: CLERK IT IS.
01:52:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM 56.
01:52:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, YOUR NAME WITH THE RED TIE.
01:52:57PM >> STEPHEN MICHELINI.
01:53:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO CONTINUE.
01:53:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL MAY 15.
01:53:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AT 1:30.
01:53:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 315 E. KENNEDY.
01:53:12PM YOU WOULD THINK I WOULD LISTEN TO THAT ENOUGH.
01:53:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 5:01 IS THE TIME FOR THE EVENING.
01:53:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I CANNOT HEAR ANYONE.
01:53:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN YOU HEAR ANYONE, COUNCILWOMAN?
01:53:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN'T SEE YOU.
01:53:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SHE NEEDS TO CLOSE THE SHADE BEHIND HER.
01:53:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE YOU IN JAIL?
01:53:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAYBE SHE CAN SIGN OUT AND SIGN IN.
01:53:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?
01:54:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE AND A
01:54:07PM SECOND.
01:54:07PM SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
01:54:08PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:54:11PM OPPOSED?
01:54:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, MAY 15.
01:54:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 15, 315 E. KENNEDY.
01:54:20PM A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM 57.
01:54:23PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:54:25PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:54:25PM OPPOSED?
01:54:26PM ALL RIGHT.
01:54:27PM WE ARE GOING TO START OFF NOW WITH 64.
01:54:33PM AND WE ARE GOING TO TIE IT INTO -- YEAH, 64, 71 AND 72.
01:54:41PM OKAY.
01:54:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST -- I WANTED TO SAY THAT DURING MY PREP
01:54:52PM MEETING, FOUR THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH STORMWATER NOW, I
01:54:56PM AM ASKING THAT THEY COME AND BRING MAPS AND PHOTOS SO THAT
01:54:59PM THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING WHEN
01:55:02PM IT COMES TO STORMWATER PROJECT.
01:55:04PM SO THAT IS WHAT HE IS GOING -- SOME OF WHAT -- WHAT
01:55:09PM MR. BHIDE WILL PRESENT TO US TODAY.
01:55:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 64.
01:55:13PM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, COUNCIL.
01:55:16PM VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY.
01:55:18PM ITEM 64 IS A CONTRACT.
01:55:21PM A MEMO SUBMITTED BY ADMINISTRATOR BAIRD.
01:55:28PM HE IS ONLINE, IF NEEDED FOR THE REHAB OF TWO DITCHES, THE
01:55:31PM ONE ON GRADY AVENUE NEAR SPRUCE STREET ON THE EAST SIDE AND
01:55:34PM THE OTHER IS 43rd STREET CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WAS
01:55:41PM COORDINATED WITH OUR OPERATIONS TEAM.
01:55:43PM SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS NOW AND SOME OF THESE
01:55:46PM -- ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AS THEY GO ONLINE FEATURE IN THE
01:55:49PM QUARTERLY REPORT.
01:55:50PM AND THESE ARE MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT OUR OPERATION MAY NOT
01:55:54PM BE ABLE TO DO BECAUSE THEY INVOLVE SIGNIFICANT REHAB WORK
01:55:58PM AND ALL.
01:55:59PM SO WE USE CONTRACTORS.
01:56:00PM AND THIS CONTRACT WITH FERREIRA IS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THESE
01:56:06PM TWO DITCHES.
01:56:07PM ONE IS THE 43rd --
01:56:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM NOT ABLE TO HEAR.
01:56:12PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE 43rd STREET DITCH WHICH IS -- SIGNIFICANT
01:56:21PM REHAB NEED OUT HERE.
01:56:23PM AND HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE 43rd STREET DITCH.
01:56:27PM THIS IS EAST OF 50TH, NORTH OF THE CSX LINE.
01:56:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WALKED OUT.
01:56:38PM >>VIK BHIDE: NO WORRIES AT ALL.
01:56:43PM FIRST PROJECT IS A 43rd STREET DITCH.
01:56:47PM HERE A PICTURE OF IT.
01:56:48PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT REHAB NEEDED.
01:56:52PM A LOT OF EROSION ON ONE SIDE AS WELL.
01:56:55PM SO THIS WILL BE STABILIZED.
01:56:56PM ANOTHER PICTURE OF THIS DITCH IN ANOTHER PORTION.
01:57:00PM AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF A CITY THAT IS INDUSTRIAL --
01:57:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CAN HEAR ME?
01:57:06PM THAT IS INTERESTING.
01:57:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
01:57:09PM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
01:57:12PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON?
01:57:15PM OKAY.
01:57:15PM >>VIK BHIDE: HERE IS ANOTHER IMAGE OF IT.
01:57:20PM AND IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THESE DITCHES.
01:57:23PM THE REHAB WORK FOR THIS IS GOING TO BE -- THERE WILL BE
01:57:28PM CONCRETE ALONG THE BANKS, DIRT AT THE BOTTOM.
01:57:31PM WHAT THAT WILL DO IS STABILIZE THE WALLS BECAUSE THEY ARE
01:57:35PM VERY STEEP.
01:57:36PM IT WILL RELATIVE TO THE FUNCTION TODAY TO ADD TO THE
01:57:40PM CAPACITY, BUT TECHNICALLY, IT WON'T, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF
01:57:43PM THE SAME SYSTEM.
01:57:44PM BUT WATER WILL FLOW MUCH BETTER THROUGH HERE WITHOUT
01:57:49PM INTERRUPTION.
01:57:49PM AND THIS KIND OF CONCRETE WORK THAT OUR OPERATIONS FOLKS
01:57:53PM CANNOT DO.
01:57:54PM IT ALSO EXTENDS THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE SYSTEM.
01:57:57PM SO THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS.
01:58:00PM OTHER IS IN THE WESTSHORE AREA.
01:58:03PM THE WEST SHORE ALLIANCE AREA BY GRADY AND SPRUCE.
01:58:08PM AND HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF IT.
01:58:10PM A LOT OF OVERGROWTH IN THESE DITCHES AS WELL AND A LOT OF
01:58:17PM OTHER VEGETATION THAT KIND OF IMPACT THE FUNCTIONALITY AND THE
01:58:20PM DRAINAGE OF THE DITCH AND HENCE THE CONTRACT WORK TO MAYBE
01:58:24PM REHABS TO THIS.
01:58:28PM ANOTHER PICTURE WITH PALMS AND OVERGROWTH IN THE AREA THAT,
01:58:32PM THAT FACT, IMPACTS DRAINAGE.
01:58:34PM I WILL HAVE TO SAY THIS ISN'T ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE
01:58:37PM STRUCTURAL FLOODING WAS REPORTED DURING THE LAST TWO STORMS,
01:58:40PM BUT THESE PROJECTS ARE PLANNED YEARS OUT AND THE WORK THAT
01:58:47PM IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE AS JEFF OUR CHIEF HE THINKS NEAR
01:58:52PM OVER STORMWATER.
01:58:52PM WORK ON THE GRADY DITCH WILL BE IN ESSENCE WORKING ON THE
01:58:56PM BANKS, CLEARING OUT ALL OF THE DEBRIS.
01:58:58PM THIS INVOLVES ACTUALLY ADDING A PIPE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE
01:59:03PM DITCH AND WITH SOME COVER ON TOP.
01:59:06PM BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THE
01:59:09PM FUNCTIONALITY OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM AND IMPROVING DRAINAGE.
01:59:15PM THE TOTAL COST FOR BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE $3.5 MILLION.
01:59:21PM 3.4 MILLION.
01:59:22PM AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:59:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:59:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE PURPOSE -- THE FIRST DITCH YOU
01:59:28PM DESCRIBED THAT YOU WILL CONCRETE REINFORCE THE BANKS.
01:59:31PM I AM ASSUMING THAT IS BECAUSE THAT IS A GRAVITY FLOW TO SHED
01:59:38PM WATER AWAY FROM THAT AREA.
01:59:39PM NOT A PERCULATION AREA.
01:59:41PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE MAIN REASON FOR THE CONCRETE BANKING IS IT
01:59:44PM IS STEEPER AND THERE IS EROSION.
01:59:46PM BECAUSE THERE IS EROSION, THE WAY TO FIRM UP THAT BANK WOULD
01:59:49PM BE TO ADD CONCRETE.
01:59:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY WOULDN'T WE CULVERT IT?
01:59:54PM >>VIK BHIDE: COST WOULD BE ONE.
01:59:56PM AND THEN ANY OTHER REASON?
01:59:58PM >> THAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON.
02:00:00PM >>VIK BHIDE: COST WOULD BE -- ALL OF THESE ARE BENEFIT OVER
02:00:03PM COST CALCULATIONS.
02:00:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
02:00:05PM SO -- WHERE DOES THIS WATER GO IN THIS PARTICULAR DRAINAGE
02:00:09PM AREA?
02:00:13PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO AT 43rd, THIS OUTFLOWS FURTHER SOUTH TO
02:00:18PM A STREAM IN THE AREA THAT FALLS -- DO YOU KNOW WHERE?
02:00:23PM >> MaCKAY.
02:00:24PM >>VIK BHIDE: MaCKAY BUT TO WHERE.
02:00:26PM >> NORTH OF MACKAY BAY.
02:00:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH WATER -- OBVIOUSLY I DON'T KNOW WHEN
02:00:33PM THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN BUT IS THAT THE WATER TABLE THAT WE
02:00:37PM ARE LOOKING AT?
02:00:38PM >>VIK BHIDE: THIS WAS TAKEN YESTERDAY.
02:00:40PM THIS IS THE WATER TABLE AND THE RAIN ITSELF.
02:00:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO RAIN.
02:00:44PM IS THAT FROM THE GROUNDWATER?
02:00:47PM >>VIK BHIDE: I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS POOLING BECAUSE THE WATER
02:00:49PM IS NOT MOVING WELL OR NOT.
02:00:50PM I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT KIND OF A GRADE
02:00:53PM LINE.
02:00:53PM AND IT'S NOT.
02:00:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM CURIOUS IF THIS WILL ACTUALLY SOLVE
02:00:58PM ANY PROBLEMS IF NOT REPLACING THE WATER.
02:01:01PM AND YOUR STRUCTURE.
02:01:02PM YOUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER.
02:01:05PM >>VIK BHIDE: OUR CHIEF ENGINEER.
02:01:07PM THIS IS A HEAVY MAINTENANCE PROJECT.
02:01:09PM AND GOING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS
02:01:12PM A PROBLEM IDENTIFIED WHERE REHAB WAS NEEDED FOR THE DITCH.
02:01:16PM AND IT WAS SO MUCH WORK THAT IT COULDN'T BE ACCOMPLISHED BY
02:01:20PM OPERATIONS ALONE.
02:01:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IS IT BECAUSE OF
02:01:24PM THE RISK OF THE ADJACENT FACILITY AND THE LAND, PRIVATE
02:01:27PM LANDHOLDER TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THE LAND?
02:01:31PM >>VIK BHIDE: PARTLY, YES.
02:01:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT NECESSARILY A WATER REPLACEMENT SHALL
02:01:35PM ISSUE, SHORING UP TO PROTECT THE ADJACENT LANDOWNER.
02:01:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: IT IS WORTH, ACTUALLY.
02:01:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STRUCTURALLY HOW YOU ENGINEER THIS FOR THE
02:01:44PM AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT HERE, WHAT IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT
02:01:47PM ON THIS PROJECT?
02:01:48PM WHAT IS THE OUTCOME?
02:01:49PM WHAT IS THE EXPECTED GAIN?
02:01:53PM >> JEFF DEBOSIER, CITY STORMWATER DIVISION.
02:01:59PM WE DIDN'T DO A RATE OF RETURN ANALYSIS OF THIS.
02:02:02PM THIS WAS A MAINTENANCE REQUEST BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT
02:02:04PM MAINTAIN THE DITCH ANY LONGER.
02:02:06PM AND, YOU KNOW, SLOPE STABILIZATION ISSUES.
02:02:09PM THE BANK WAS COLLAPSING ON THE PARKING LO LOT SIDE FOR THAT
02:02:14PM INDUSTRIAL PARK THERE AND BEGINNING TO USE THEIR PARKING
02:02:18PM LOT.
02:02:18PM BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY -- THEY HAD TO REINFORCE THE
02:02:24PM BANKS BECAUSE OF THE STEEP SLOPES, THE CONCRETE SLOPE, WAS
02:02:27PM ENGINEERED BY OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.
02:02:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DESIGNED THAT WAY ORIGINALLY OR A
02:02:32PM PROGRESSION OF EROSION?
02:02:34PM >> NO, IT WAS DESIGNED AS AN OPEN GRASS DITCH.
02:02:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE STEEPNESS OF THESE BANKS.
02:02:43PM IS IT TIME -- OR A CHEAPER WAY TO MITIGATE THIS AND MAKE IT
02:02:47PM LESS STEEP?
02:02:47PM RATHER THAN -- IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO POUR CONCRETE
02:02:51PM AND A DITCH IS SUPPOSED TO SHED WATER.
02:02:56PM >> IT IS NOT UNCOMMON.
02:02:57PM DITCH LINE OR CONCRETE DITCH LINE.
02:02:59PM BUT BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF THIS DITCH, AND I AM PRESUMING
02:03:04PM BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS PROBABLY
02:03:07PM BUILT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE
02:03:12PM CHEAPEST WAY THEY COULD BUILD IT FOR WE ACCEPTED THAT FOR
02:03:16PM MAINTENANCE.
02:03:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT MAKES SENSE.
02:03:19PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:03:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:03:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION, BUT QUITE A FEW
02:03:27PM CANALS ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH TAMPA.
02:03:28PM I DID A TOUR OF LAND CANAL.
02:03:30PM AND THOSE ARE ALL CONCRETE SO I GET --
02:03:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET THAT BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE
02:03:39PM WATER IS TO SHED WATER TO THE OUTFLOW, IT IS NOT A
02:03:43PM PERCOLATION.
02:03:43PM IT SEEMS WHEN YOU ARE SO FAR AWAY FROM IT -- BECAUSE THAT
02:03:48PM PARTICULAR AREA IS QUITE A DIFFERENCE FROM THE WATER
02:03:51PM OUTFLOW, CORRECT?
02:03:52PM >>VIK BHIDE: NOT NECESSARILY WHERE THIS OUTFALLS TOO.
02:03:55PM BECAUSE IT OUTFALLS TO A STREAM, BUT EVEN WITH THE CONCRETE
02:03:58PM SIDES ON THE DITCH, THE BOTTOM IS STILL DIRT FOR WATER
02:04:03PM QUALITY.
02:04:03PM >> DIG IT OUT TO IMPROVE THE PERCOLATION?
02:04:07PM >>VIK BHIDE: MORE FOR WATER QUALITY AND THAT HAPPENS BY
02:04:11PM PERCOLATION, YEAH.
02:04:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, VERY GOOD.
02:04:14PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE IDEA IS TO CONVEY THE WATER TO THE OUTFALL
02:04:18PM AND NOT --
02:04:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE PREMISE OF THE BEGINNING OF THE
02:04:22PM QUESTION.
02:04:22PM EN TENDED FOR PERCOLATION OR SHED WATER AWAY.
02:04:26PM >>VIK BHIDE: INTENDED TO MOVE WATER.
02:04:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
02:04:30PM IF NOT, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION.
02:04:34PM A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:04:36PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:04:38PM IS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BACK ON?
02:04:40PM OKAY.
02:04:40PM AND CAN SHE HEAR US?
02:04:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, SIR.
02:04:43PM YES, I CAN.
02:04:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:04:45PM MA'AM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM 64?
02:04:50PM OKAY.
02:04:50PM SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:04:52PM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT.
02:04:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:04:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:05:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:05:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:05:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:05:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:05:09PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
02:05:13PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:05:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL CONTINUE WITH 71 AND 72
02:05:17PM REGARDING BACK-UP GENERATORS AND SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS FOR
02:05:21PM FLOODING CHALLENGES.
02:05:21PM MR. BHIDE, GO AHEAD.
02:05:26PM >>VIK BHIDE: VIK BHIDE WITH MOBILITY.
02:05:28PM ITEMS 71 AND 72 BOTH RELATE TO NORTH TAMPA.
02:05:30PM 71 IS ABOUT SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS, STORMWATER SOLUTIONS IN THE
02:05:34PM NORTH TAMPA AREA.
02:05:37PM AND ITEM TWO RELATES TO GENERATORS, BUT I WILL SPEAK TO CITY
02:05:45PM WIDE.
02:05:45PM HANDOUTS THAT I JUST SHARED, THAT IS OUR UPGRADE PROPOSAL
02:05:51PM FOR THE GENERATORS AND WE WILL TOUCH UPON THAT IN A SECOND.
02:05:55PM I WILL START WITH THE SHORT HAD BEEN TERM SOLUTIONS.
02:05:59PM I WILL START BY SAYING WE HAVE A PAVING PROJECT ON N.
02:06:04PM BOULEVARD FROM BUSCH BOULEVARD TOWARD COUNTRY CLUB ROAD THAT
02:06:07PM WILL HAPPEN BEFORE SUMMER.
02:06:08PM A MEMO TO THAT AFFECT WAS ISSUED AS WELL.
02:06:10PM THAT DOES HELP MOVE WATER TO THE SYSTEM BETTER AND AS WE
02:06:17PM WORK TOWARD INSTALLING PERMANENT GENERATORS AT ALL OF
02:06:21PM THE PUMP STATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE GENERATORS TODAY, WE ARE
02:06:25PM WORKING AND A SHOUT OUT TO TEAM LAMB, ADRI AND HER STAFF,
02:06:32PM PARTICULARLY AUBY AND JOHN, THEY ARE REALLY HELPING US OUT.
02:06:37PM EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, WE ISSUED A P.O. -- OR ARE WORK ON
02:06:42PM A P.O. FOR $125,000 TO CARTER ELECTRIC THAT WILL FINALIZE
02:06:47PM THE AVAILABILITY OF GENERATORS THAT WILL BE STAGED AT ALL
02:06:50PM PUMP STATIONS.
02:06:51PM WE HAVE 16 PUMP STATIONS, 14 OF THEM WE WILL STAGE AT.
02:06:56PM TWO OF THE PUMP STATIONS WE WILL STILL GO OUT THERE WITH
02:07:03PM AUXILIARY PUMPS.
02:07:04PM THESE ARE SMALLER PUMP STATIONS AND CONNECT THE HOSE TO THE
02:07:08PM SYSTEM, IF NEEDED SO THAT IN PLACE.
02:07:12PM THAT CONTRACTOR.
02:07:13PM WE SPOKE WITH EARLIER TODAY AND WHAT THAT WILL MEAN IS BY
02:07:18PM THIS SUMMER, OUR PUMP STATIONS WILL HAVE GENERATORS.
02:07:22PM THEY WILL BE RAISED ABOVE THE LAST KNOWN FLOODING LEVEL AS
02:07:29PM WELL.
02:07:29PM SO WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT WITH CARTER ELECTRIC.
02:07:32PM THEY UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE.
02:07:34PM THERE WILL BE STAGED SOME TIME BEFORE JUNE 1.
02:07:38PM THERE WILL BE TESTED, WIRED, ACTIVATED AND STAGED.
02:07:42PM WE ALSO HAVE A FUELING PLAN IN PLACE TO GO AHEAD AND FUEL
02:07:46PM THOSE GENERATORS AS NEEDED ONCE WE SWITCH THE GENERATOR
02:07:50PM POWER BEFORE A STORM.
02:07:51PM SO BEFORE ANY MAJOR STORM, WE WILL GO OUT THERE TO THE PUMP
02:07:59PM STATION -- IF THERE IS A POND, AS ALWAYS, REDUCE THE POND
02:08:03PM LEVELS, SWITCH THE GENERATOR POWER.
02:08:06PM SO THAT IN CASE OF A POWER LOSS, THAT PUMP STATIONS STILL
02:08:10PM CONTINUE TO OPERATE.
02:08:11PM AND THEN THROUGH THE STORM, AND THEN AFTER THE STORM,
02:08:15PM RESPOND WITH A FUELING PLAN.
02:08:17PM AND WHEN I SAY "THROUGH THE STORM," ONLY IF IT IS SAFE TO
02:08:22PM GET OUT THERE.
02:08:23PM WE HAVE ADDED TO OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AN ERC CREW FOR
02:08:28PM PITCH STATIONS.
02:08:30PM SO TWO PEOPLE THAT WILL DEDICATED TO PUMP STATIONS THAT WILL
02:08:33PM HUNKER DOWN WITH OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTER 3, OUR ERC 3.
02:08:40PM HUNKER DOWN AT THE SCHOOL IN EAST TAMPA AND THEY WILL BE
02:08:45PM AVAILABLE AND MOBILIZE EVEN AT NIGHT, IF NEEDED, IF IT IS
02:08:49PM SAFE TO GET OUT THERE.
02:08:50PM TYPICALLY, WE DON'T GET EQUIPMENT OUT THERE AT NIGHT, BUT
02:08:53PM FUELING IS POSSIBLE AND SWITCHING TO GENERATOR AND POWERING
02:08:57PM OFF.
02:08:58PM WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AN INSTRUMENTATION ACCOUNT WHICH IS
02:09:02PM ICON WHICH IS WHAT OUR WASTEWATER TEAM USES AS WELL.
02:09:04PM ALL OF THIS IS IN PLACE FOR THIS SUMMER TODAY.
02:09:08PM WE ARE ALSO IN TOUCH WITH THE COUNTY.
02:09:13PM OUR STORMWATER ENGINEERING MANAGER CONFIRMED SHE IS IN TOUCH
02:09:17PM WITH GG. GAL FOR THE COUNTY AND TRYING TO GET TO THE
02:09:25PM CONSULTANT THEY HIRED AS WELL.
02:09:27PM WE HAVEN'T HEARD DIRECTLY FROM BLACK & VEATCH, BUT WE LOOK
02:09:31PM FORWARD TO COORDINATION BECAUSE BOTH AREAS IN NORTH TAMPA
02:09:34PM THAT WERE MOST ADVERSELY AFFECTED HAVE SEEN CROSS COUNTY AND
02:09:39PM CITY BOUNDARIES IN THE AREA AS WELL.
02:09:41PM THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THE LAST STORM
02:09:48PM SEASON RELATIVE TO THE PUMP STATIONS.
02:09:50PM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT?
02:09:54PM ITEM 71?
02:09:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER --
02:09:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIERA FIRST AND THEN CLENDENIN.
02:10:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN GO AFTER ME TO WRAP IT UP.
02:10:05PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
02:10:06PM THE PUMPS THAT YOU ARE ADDING AS PERSONAL MAN IN THE
02:10:09PM INSTALLATIONS.
02:10:10PM ARE THEY HOUSED INSIDE OF A FACILITY?
02:10:20PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS ITEM 72.
02:10:23PM AND I WILL SPEAK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
02:10:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLEARLY YOU LISTENED TO THE LESSONS
02:10:28PM LEARNED ON THIS.
02:10:28PM AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THE
02:10:33PM ISSUES WE ADDRESSED LAST SUMMER AND THINGS WE HAVE NOT
02:10:36PM FORESEEN.
02:10:38PM CONGRATULATION ON THAT COVERING AN ACTION PLAN IF WE HAVE
02:10:41PM ANOTHER INCIDENT AND WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED TO US.
02:10:43PM KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
02:10:49PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
02:10:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:10:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. BHIDE -- MAYBE I ALLOW HIM TO DO 72.
02:11:02PM MINE WILL BE SHORT.
02:11:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD WITH 72.
02:11:05PM >>VIK BHIDE: 72 IS KIND OF A MORE MID-TERM PROPOSAL TO ADD
02:11:10PM THESE GENERATORS AT LOCATION THAT DON'T EXIST.
02:11:12PM AND THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS TO IT.
02:11:15PM ONE IS THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE IS TO ADD GENERATORS.
02:11:18PM AND THE OTHER IS A MIDTERM SOLUTION THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
02:11:22PM I WILL TOUCH UPON THAT REAL QUICK.
02:11:24PM AT COPELAND PARK AND LANTANA AND POINSETTIA, WE WILL BE ADDING
02:11:31PM NEW PUMP STATIONS.
02:11:32PM ONE IS IN JOCKEY FOR CONSTRUCTION AT THE PARK.
02:11:38PM SMALLER PUMP STATIONS LANTANA IS BEING DESIGNED AS WE SPEAK.
02:11:43PM I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE YET, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
02:11:48PM SCOPE WILL BE EXACTLY TO IMPLEMENT.
02:11:50PM BUT COPELAND PARK WILL HAPPEN MUCH SOONER WITHIN THE YEAR.
02:11:54PM AND AS FAR AS THE RESILIENCY UPGRADE PROPOSAL, THE HANDOUT
02:11:59PM THAT I JUST GAVE TO YOU ALL.
02:12:03PM THE BUSINESS OF IT IS REALLY IN LIGHT OF OUR RESILIENCY
02:12:07PM NEEDS AND OUR CURRENT PUMP STATIONS AND SYSTEMS.
02:12:10PM THE QUESTION WAS ASKED INTERNALLY AND BY COUNCIL, WHAT CAN
02:12:15PM WE TO DO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THERE IS A POWER
02:12:19PM OUTAGES, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND OPERATE THE
02:12:21PM SYSTEMS.
02:12:22PM SO THE OBJECTIVE IS TO INCREASE RESILIENCY AND RELIABILITY
02:12:26PM OF THE PUMP STATIONS THEMSELVES DURING PERIODS OF MAJOR RAIN
02:12:30PM EVENTS AND WIDESPREAD POWER OUTAGES.
02:12:33PM THAT POWER OUTAGES THAT REALLY TAKES A LOT OF THE PUMP
02:12:36PM STATIONS OFFLINE AND ALSO FOR THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY STAFF
02:12:43PM TO REMOTELY MONITOR WHAT IS HAPPENING OUT THERE BOTH THROUGH
02:12:46PM WATER LEVELS CENTERS AND CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
02:12:49PM CONTINUOUSLY DURING MAJOR EVENTS.
02:12:52PM SO THAT IS WHAT WILL ALLOW USES TO MAYBE DEPLOY FOLKS THAT
02:12:56PM ARE HUNKERED DOWN WHEN POSSIBLE TO -- TO MAKE ANY NECESSARY
02:13:03PM ADJUSTMENTS, BUT WE WILL ALREADY BE ON GENERATOR POWER BY
02:13:07PM THEN.
02:13:07PM SO VARIOUS UPGRADES ARE DETAILED IN THIS PROPOSAL WILL TO
02:13:13PM BEGIN WITH ADDING GENERATORS WHERE NONE EXIST.
02:13:16PM THESE GENERATORS WILL EITHER BE INSIDE EXISTING PUMP HOUSES
02:13:23PM OR IN CERTAIN CASES WHERE WE HAVE SMALLER PUMP STATIONS
02:13:27PM OUR MORE EXTERNAL PUMP STATIONS WILL BE ON PADS THAT ARE
02:13:32PM RAISED AT A LEVEL THAT IS HIGHER THAN THE FLOOD LEVELS THAT
02:13:35PM WE EXPERIENCED LAST -- LAST SUMMER.
02:13:37PM SO THESE WILL BE RAISED WELL ABOVE THE NORMAL FLOOD PLAIN IN
02:13:42PM EFFECT.
02:13:43PM AND WILL BE RESILIENT ENOUGH.
02:13:45PM SO THAT IS THE -- WITH THE GENERATOR ADDITION.
02:13:50PM THERE ARE SIZE TO THE PUMP SIZES THEMSELVES AND GET TO THE
02:13:55PM LAST PAGE.
02:13:55PM WE WILL GET TO THAT.
02:13:56PM WATER SENSING EQUIPMENT WILL GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF THE
02:14:00PM CONDITIONS UNDER GROUND.
02:14:01PM AND ALSO THAT MESSAGE GOING TO INSTRUMENTATION OF THE
02:14:06PM GENERATORS AND THE PUMPS. AND THE COMMUNICATION
02:14:10PM EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T -- WE DON'T HAVE CELLULAR
02:14:14PM COMMUNICATION TO THESE SYSTEMS, SO WE WILL BE UPGRADE TO
02:14:17PM THAT.
02:14:18PM THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS WITH
02:14:21PM THEIR SYSTEM.
02:14:21PM WE STILL HAVE A RADIO-BASED SYSTEM WHICH WORKS NOT AS WELL
02:14:27PM AS THE CELLULAR COMMUNICATIONS.
02:14:29PM AND LIVE CAMERAS FOR SECURITY AND MONITORING BECAUSE THAT
02:14:32PM NOT ONLY ALLOWS US TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON THERE AND ALSO
02:14:36PM SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY, HERE IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN TIME
02:14:41PM AS WELL.
02:14:42PM DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, AS I MENTIONED THE LAST TIME.
02:14:45PM OUR BEST SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS ONCE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE.
02:14:49PM AND FUND ARE AVAILABLE -- YES, DENNIS IS AVAILABLE.
02:14:55PM HE WILL CONFIRM THAT.
02:14:56PM I WILL LET HIM SPEAK TO IT.
02:14:58PM IT WILL TAKE US TWO YEARS.
02:14:59PM BUT THAT IS OUR ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW.
02:15:02PM I AM IN TOUCH WITH RICHARD, RICHARD MUTTERBACK OUR CAD
02:15:07PM DIRECTOR TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE EVEN FASTER.
02:15:10PM IF ANY WAY WE CAN MOVE THIS FASTER, WE WILL DO THAT.
02:15:14PM INVOLVES DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AND GOES THROUGH CAD.
02:15:18PM AND THIS IS A PROCUREMENT OR A PURCHASING TYPE OF SITUATION.
02:15:22PM ATTACHMENT ONE IS THE PROJECT MAP.
02:15:25PM AND THAT SHOWS OUR DIFFERENT PUMP STATIONS AND LOCATIONS.
02:15:29PM AND THEN ATTACHMENT TWO WHICH I WILL PUT UP HERE -- I THINK
02:15:34PM I HAD THIS UP LAST WEEK AS WELL.
02:15:36PM SO THAT IS THE FINAL NUMBER.
02:15:43PM $10.5 MILLION, INCLUDES CONTINGENCY BASED ON TODAY'S COST.
02:15:51PM AND THE COST WAS ARRIVED AT BY JEFF AND HIS TEAM AFTER
02:15:54PM CONSULTING WITH VENDORS, WITH OUR PEERS IN THE COUNTY AS
02:16:01PM WELL.
02:16:01PM AND ALSO STANDARD AVAILABLE PRICING THAT ARE USED FOR
02:16:06PM ESTIMATION FOR DESIGN AND OTHER COSTS.
02:16:08PM PRIORITIZED IN TWO LEVELS.
02:16:11PM PRIORITY ONE IS WHERE WE HAD THE WORST FLOODING AND PRIORITY
02:16:16PM TWO IS WHERE THERE IS RELATIVELY SPEAKING.
02:16:19PM LESSER FLOODING.
02:16:21PM OF COURSE, OUR GOAL WAS TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF THIS IN ONE
02:16:24PM GOAL.
02:16:25PM AND SINCE THE COST IS $10.5 MILLION, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED
02:16:31PM THAT THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE SO WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED.
02:16:34PM HOW THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE IF I COULD ASK DENNIS TO TOUCH
02:16:39PM UPON THAT.
02:16:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE THAT -- BEFORE WE
02:16:43PM GET TO THE MONEY STUFF.
02:16:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE STOP -- YES.
02:16:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WOULD --
02:16:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET --
02:16:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE VIERA FIRST.
02:16:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU ALL -- ARE YOURS SHORT?
02:16:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MINE IS ONE QUESTION.
02:16:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK, CLENDENIN AND VIERA.
02:17:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS.
02:17:06PM MY FIRST REQUEST IS THIS BE ADDED TO ON BASE POST -- THIS
02:17:11PM PRESENTATION SO THE PUBLIC CAN REALLY LOOK AT IT.
02:17:13PM I THINK SOMETIMES IT IS JUST HAVING THAT INFORMATION.
02:17:16PM THE COST WE'LL TALK ABOUT.
02:17:19PM HOW FREQUENTLY WILL THESE WHERE THESE GENERATORS BE TESTED.
02:17:26PM >> SO OUR SERVICE PLAN IS GOING TO BE QUARTERLY FOR THESE
02:17:33PM GENERATORS.
02:17:33PM DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TESTING SO I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC DETAILS
02:17:39PM BUT EYES ON IT EVERY QUARTER IF NOT MORE FREQUENTLY.
02:17:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TO HELP FOLKS UNDERSTAND.
02:17:48PM 71 AND 72 ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING TO
02:17:53PM PUT PORTABLE BACK-UP GENERATORS AT EVERY STORMWATER --
02:18:01PM >>VIK BHIDE: PUMP STATION.
02:18:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:18:02PM IT JUST WASN'T COMING TODAY.
02:18:04PM RIGHT NOW PUTTING PORTABLE GENERATORS AT EVERY STATION.
02:18:08PM AND THOSE WILL BE READY BEFORE JUNE?
02:18:10PM >>VIK BHIDE: CORRECT.
02:18:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE JUST WANT FOLKS TO KNOW THAT.
02:18:14PM WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BEFORE JUNE.
02:18:16PM BUT THIS IS A SECONDARY, LONGER TERM, PERMANENT FIX.
02:18:22PM OKAY.
02:18:23PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS UNDERSTOOD THAT WE ARE
02:18:26PM NOT WAITING UNTIL 2027 POSSIBLY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
02:18:30PM THANK YOU.
02:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN, VIERA.
02:18:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AMI, WHAT STATION.
02:18:36PM WHERE IS THAT.
02:18:38PM >>VIK BHIDE: IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND UNDER THE PARKING LOT.
02:18:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OF MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
02:18:44PM THAT WAS MY QUESTION TO VERIFY WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING THERE.
02:18:47PM PERFECT.
02:18:48PM ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.
02:18:50PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE HAVE PAVING IN AT AREA AND STORMWATER UPGRADE.
02:18:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DITCH ISSUE MAINTENANCE.
02:18:56PM WE HAVE MITIGATION.
02:18:58PM >>VIK BHIDE: FOLKS ARE OUT THERE.
02:18:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. VIERA.
02:19:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:19:02PM THIS IS WHY WE ARE HAVING THAT COMMUNITY MEETING AND BY THE
02:19:05PM WAY, WE WILL BE PUSHING IT TO APRIL.
02:19:08PM HE SPOKE TO ADMINISTRATION DURING LUNCH.
02:19:10PM GLAD TO DO IT.
02:19:12PM THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE NEED FOR THAT.
02:19:14PM WANT SOMEBODY FROM STORMWATER AND MOBILITY TO COME OUT AND
02:19:18PM TELL THEM WHAT YOU SAID, AGAIN, I AM NOT AN EXPERT AND I
02:19:22PM COULD MISSPEAK.
02:19:23PM IN FACT, I PROBABLY WILL MISSPEAK.
02:19:25PM WANT TO MAKE SURE.
02:19:26PM I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT IN NORTH TAMPA TO HAVE SOME OF THE
02:19:29PM NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS TWO OR THREE FROM COPELAND PARK, FOREST
02:19:32PM HILLS, OVERLOOK AND TOUR THE PUMP STATIONS BEFORE STORM
02:19:37PM SEASON.
02:19:37PM AGAIN, LIKE -- PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE VERY TRAUMATIZED.
02:19:41PM ALL OVER TAMPA, THEY ARE TRAUMATIZED.
02:19:44PM BUT AGAIN FOREST HILLS NOT IN A TRADITIONAL FLOOD ZONE.
02:19:50PM ZONE X ONE IN 500 AND SO FORTH.
02:19:53PM AND I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ASKED THIS BUT I AM MAKING SURE
02:19:57PM AGAIN HAVE WE SPOKEN OF THIS PRIVATELY WHICH IS FOR THIS
02:20:03PM FORTHCOMING STORM SEASON, ALL PUMPS WILL HAVE BACK-UP
02:20:07PM GENERATORS?
02:20:08PM >>VIK BHIDE: ALL PUMP STATIONS, YES.
02:20:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY GOOD.
02:20:12PM >>VIK BHIDE: WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO, 45th STREET AND
02:20:15PM THE ONE OFF OF HOWARD AVENUE.
02:20:17PM THEY ARE VERY SMALL PITCH STATIONS.
02:20:19PM THEY ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
02:20:20PM AND WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE AUXILIARY PUMPS WITH HOSES AND
02:20:27PM DIRECT THEM TO THE EXISTING SYSTEM.
02:20:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
02:20:30PM FOR NORTH TAMPA, A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES JUST LIKE
02:20:34PM EVERYWHERE.
02:20:34PM POND, MAINTENANCE, CULVERTS.
02:20:36PM A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.
02:20:37PM I FOCUS ON IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRAGEDY OF MILTON ON PUMPS
02:20:42PM AND BACK-UP GENERATORS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE INFORMATION THAT
02:20:45PM WAS RELEASED.
02:20:46PM AND SO THAT IS WHY WHICH HAVE THAT MEETING.
02:20:50PM LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS
02:20:54PM LAST WEEK AND I FORGOT.
02:20:56PM IS THERE ANY REQUESTS BEING MADE FOR PITCH UPGRADES AND
02:21:00PM ASSISTANCE FROM TALLAHASSEE?
02:21:02PM BECAUSE I BELIEVE -- I DON'T -- I AM NOT GOING TO SAY IT OR
02:21:07PM SPEAK OUT OF TURN, ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT AT ALL?
02:21:09PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
02:21:10PM THROUGH TALLAHASSEE, A COUPLE OF THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON.
02:21:14PM ONE IS IT COMES THROUGH THE STATE AND THE STATE A INVOLVED.
02:21:19PM THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT.
02:21:21PM WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, THE STATE AND THE FEDS ON
02:21:25PM IDENTIFYING RESOURCES FOR THAT.
02:21:26PM A LOT OF THOSE WOULD -- THIS WILL BE A GOLDEN GATE REQUEST
02:21:29PM FOR THAT.
02:21:29PM BUT WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THAT POINT.
02:21:32PM SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE MADE
02:21:37PM A REQUEST FOR FUNDING THROUGH CONGRESSWOMAN CASTOR'S OFFICE.
02:21:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: MARVELOUS.
02:21:48PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
02:21:48PM ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOK FORWARD TO -- I WAS MEETING WITH
02:21:52PM THE CONSULT.
02:21:53PM AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY THEM.
02:21:55PM I THINK THEY ARE STELLAR.
02:21:56PM YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
02:21:58PM AND YOU TALK TO THEM, AND YOU GO, OH, GOOD, LIKE WHERE YOU
02:22:03PM ALL ARE GOING.
02:22:03PM DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THIS.
02:22:05PM BUT ALSO THE REVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED AND TRANSPARENCY
02:22:09PM AND AN ISSUE WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE FUTURE MASTER PLAN WE ARE
02:22:14PM SUPPOSED TO HAVE IN MANATEE CITY, TEMPLE TERRACE AND FOR THE
02:22:17PM CITY OF TAMPA, THAT IS REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL AND I LOOK
02:22:20PM FORWARD TO THAT.
02:22:21PM BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IMMEDIATE UPGRADES AND
02:22:24PM AMENDMENTS WE MAKE TO OUR SYSTEM TO STRENGTHEN OUR SYSTEM TO
02:22:28PM THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
02:22:29PM CERTAIN THINGS THAT NO SOCIETY CAN PREVENT OR PREPARE FOR.
02:22:37PM I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT BECAUSE WE NEED THE CONVERSATION WITH
02:22:41PM THE TAXPAYERS, HOW MUCH DO WE NEED, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST
02:22:44PM AND HOW DO WE GET THERE.
02:22:46PM EVERYBODY THAT I TALK TO -- AGAIN, TALKING TO THE PEOPLE OF
02:22:49PM NORTH TAMPA, THEY ARE DEVASTATED.
02:22:51PM THAT A CONVERSATION THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO AS WELL.
02:22:56PM THANK YOU, SIR.
02:22:57PM WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS AND THANK YOU.
02:23:00PM >>VIK BHIDE: I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE PUMP STATION TOURS.
02:23:03PM WHILE THE COUNTY'S STUDY IS HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, TO
02:23:07PM UNDERSTAND, THIS BODY HAS APPROVED A $5 MILLION WATER SHED
02:23:11PM MASTER PLAN THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER WAY AND WILL DO EXACTLY
02:23:14PM THAT.
02:23:15PM SO THANK YOU.
02:23:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:23:18PM DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR WAIT -- YOU WANT MR. ROGERO TO TALK
02:23:24PM ABOUT THE MONEY.
02:23:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU GO AHEAD.
02:23:27PM I WILL COME BACK.
02:23:29PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS MORE TOO.
02:23:30PM THANK YOU FOR THE SEGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND MAYBE A
02:23:35PM LITTLE CONTRADICTORY.
02:23:36PM WE DO PEOPLE A DISSERVICE WHEN WE TALK OF INVOLVE FLOODING.
02:23:39PM IT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:23:40PM THERE IS FLOOD -- PONDS EVERYWHERE.
02:23:42PM WE HAVE STREAMS AND LIVERS.
02:23:44PM UNLESS YOU ARE SITTING ON TOP OF A PLATEAU.
02:23:47PM THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF FLOODING.
02:23:52PM I THINK WHAT YOU PRESENTED AND THIS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
02:23:56PM PRESENTED AS WHOLE SALE APPROACH TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
02:23:59PM MET DATING WHERE WE CAN.
02:24:00PM OBVIOUSLY WE ARE TALKING OF FRESH WATER FLOODING BECAUSE,
02:24:03PM YOU KNOW, NOT MUCH THE CITY CITY OF TAMPA CAN DO FOR STORM
02:24:07PM SURGE AND SALT WATER FLOODING.
02:24:08PM WHAT IT BRINGS IN IT BRINGS IN AND WE HAVE TO BUILD AROUND
02:24:12PM IT AS WE PLAN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
02:24:14PM AND COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND THE STUFF THAT WE DO AS
02:24:19PM COUNCIL HURTAK BRINGS UP IN OUR LAND USE POLICY HEARINGS.
02:24:22PM BUT I HAVE GOT A QUESTION.
02:24:24PM BECAUSE I STILL KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME MASSIVE INVESTMENT
02:24:28PM IN DISTRICT FOUR, AND STILL AN AWFUL AT OF FRESH WATER
02:24:32PM FLOODING AND I AM SEEING A LACK OF ACTION.
02:24:34PM WE SEE A LOT OF -- EVEN AT BALLAST POINT AND THE SOUTH OF
02:24:46PM GANDY AND MAJOR CULVERT ISSUES AROUND THE AREA.
02:24:47PM WHAT IS OUR LONG-TERM VISION AND PLAN OR THE FRESH WATER
02:24:51PM COMPONENT ON THOSE AREAS?
02:24:54PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE, THE MANHATTAN PROJECT IS UNDER WAY AND
02:25:01PM INCREASE ACTIVITY NEAR EUCLID AND UNDER WAY AND UNDER
02:25:04PM DESIGN.
02:25:05PM THERE IS ANOTHER PROJECT IN DISTRICT FOUR WHICH IS GULFVIEW,
02:25:09PM THAT IS AT 90% DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
02:25:12PM WE ARE HOPING THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGINS THIS YEAR BY SUMMER.
02:25:16PM WE HAVE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROBABLY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ALSO.
02:25:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION.
02:25:24PM >>VIK BHIDE: THEN WE HAVE A FEW OTHER PROJECTS, LIKE THE
02:25:29PM LAND CANAL REHAB.
02:25:31PM WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN DISTRICT FOUR SPECIFICALLY THAT
02:25:34PM ARE GOING ON BUT THAT WILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT RELATIVE TO OUR
02:25:40PM CHALLENGES.
02:25:41PM YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
02:25:42PM THE SYSTEM, THE EXISTING SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE THE ONE
02:25:46PM ON EUCLID BY CONCORDIA.
02:25:49PM THAT IS AN INSUFFICIENT SYSTEM ALSO.
02:25:52PM THE SYSTEM SIZE IS INEFFICIENT FOR THE TYPE OF STORMS IF WE
02:25:58PM GET LAST YEAR TYPE OF EVENTS.
02:26:00PM EVEN THE HEAVY RAINS THAT WE SAW EVERY OTHER DAY, YOU KNOW
02:26:04PM TWO INCHES PLUS IN AN HOUR AND THIS KIND OF STUFF.
02:26:07PM A LOT OF INVESTMENT NEEDED AND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S
02:26:13PM POINTS.
02:26:13PM OUR WATER SHED MASTER PLAN WILL INFORM WHAT THE INVESTMENTS
02:26:17PM ARE AND PRIORITIZE THEM BASED ON RISK AS WELL.
02:26:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR GIVE MY IGNORANCE OF HELENE OR MILTON,
02:26:25PM A LOT OF INLAND FLOODING IN THE PENINSULA WAS THERE DITCH --
02:26:32PM I KNOW A LOT OF DITCH SHEDDING WATER SYSTEMS DOWN THERE.
02:26:35PM WAS ANY OF THE FLOODING LIKE TO THE EAST OF WEST SHORE
02:26:38PM ATTRIBUTED TO DITCH MAINTENANCE OR FRESH WATER OR ALL
02:26:44PM INUNDATION OF SALT WATER?
02:26:50PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO THEY ARE BOTH.
02:26:52PM FIRST STORM WAS DIFFERENT.
02:26:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I REMEMBER THEM WELL.
02:26:55PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE WESTSHORE AREA IS LOW LYING AND TIDALLY
02:27:01PM INFLUENCED EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE HURRICANES OR MAJOR SURGE
02:27:05PM EVENTS.
02:27:05PM IT WAS A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
02:27:07PM AND WE HEARD ABOUT MAINTENANCE, YES, WE COULD USE MORE
02:27:13PM RESOURCES.
02:27:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOUSE THE BEACH PARK.
02:27:16PM >>VIK BHIDE: ABSOLUTELY.
02:27:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONTRIBUTE TO FLOODING.
02:27:22PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE PARK GETS IMPACTED BY BEACH WATER FLOODING.
02:27:28PM WE FINISHED TV IN CONCORDIA AND WE NEED TO DO MORE INCHES AS
02:27:37PM WELL.
02:27:37PM THIS IS WHAT WE DO.
02:27:38PM AND TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S MOTION WILL BE COMING IN MARCH
02:27:41PM WITH A MONTHLY REPORT ON WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES
02:27:45PM ARE.
02:27:45PM AND A MAINTENANCE PLAN.
02:27:47PM WHAT WE HAVE DONE THIS MONTH AND NEXT MONTH.
02:27:51PM YOU SEE MORE TV INSPECTION.
02:27:53PM >> THE REASON I QUERY THAT YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AND SEE ALL
02:27:57PM THIS UP HERE AND NOTHING DOWN HERE AND KNOWING HOW MUCH
02:28:00PM DEVASTATION WAS DOWN HERE.
02:28:01PM PEOPLE WILL SAY, HEY, MY HOUSE IS FLOODED.
02:28:04PM I CAN HEAR PEOPLE SAYING THAT.
02:28:07PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE, THE PUMP STATIONS ARE ONE THING.
02:28:10PM OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE MORE FOCUSED.
02:28:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND.
02:28:15PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:28:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND CARLSON.
02:28:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
02:28:21PM GO BACK TO THE CITYWIDE CHART.
02:28:25PM I KNOW PEOPLE WILL HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION
02:28:27PM ABOUT IT.
02:28:28PM NUMBER THREE SAYS PUMP STATION DOES NOT APPLY FLOOD RELIEF.
02:28:34PM KIND OF FUNNY IN A WEIRD WAY.
02:28:37PM WHAT THAT MEANS AND IT WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE?
02:28:40PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE FIRST IS AMI, THE PUMP STATION PUMPS WEST
02:28:44PM INTO THE CLEVELAND SYSTEM.
02:28:45PM AND IT DOESN'T A HE REALLY -- IT IS NOT VERY EFFECTIVE WHAT
02:28:51PM IT DOES IS IT MOVE WATER FROM THERE.
02:28:52PM BUT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE CREATING A MOVEMENT OF THE PROBLEM
02:28:58PM FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER.
02:28:59PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE SAME ON YORK.
02:29:05PM MAY NEED TO PHONE A FRIEND ON YORK.
02:29:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE ONE PHONE A FRIEND, YES.
02:29:11PM >> JEFF DEBOSE.
02:29:16PM AMI AND YORK STREET ARE BOTH BASICALLY SET UP TO RECOVER THE
02:29:20PM VOLUME AFTER A STORM EVENT.
02:29:22PM THEY ARE NOT EFFECTIVE DURING A STORM EVENT.
02:29:25PM SO IT IS ALL ABOUT RECOVERING THE VOLUME AFTER A STORM EVENT
02:29:28PM IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT ONE.
02:29:30PM SO WE HAVE MORE VOLUME THERE.
02:29:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:29:33PM >> QUITE FRANKLY -- AMI, WE HOPE THAT MAYBE WE CAN ABANDON THAT
02:29:40PM STATION WITH OUR SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
02:29:42PM WE WOULD LIKE FOR THAT POND TO TRAIN SOUTH TO THE BAY AND
02:29:50PM NOT RELY ON THAT STATION.
02:29:51PM A LOT OPERATION OF MAINTENANCE AND EFFORT TO COPE A STATION
02:29:55PM RUNNING TO RECOVER A FEW FEET OF WATER AFTER AN EVENT.
02:30:00PM IT IS NOT TERRIBLY EFFECTIVE IS THE POINT.
02:30:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:30:03PM THANK YOU.
02:30:04PM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
02:30:06PM IF YOU CAN PUT THE MAP UP SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY SEE AND
02:30:10PM THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE.
02:30:11PM I WILL GIVE PEOPLE A FEW SECONDS TO LOOK AT THE MAP.
02:30:14PM THANK YOU.
02:30:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER
02:30:22PM CARLSON.
02:30:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN STARTED
02:30:25PM WEIGHING IN ON THE OTHER PART OF THE CITY, I WANTED TO DO
02:30:28PM THAT REAL FAST.
02:30:29PM VIK AND JEFF AND EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THIS.
02:30:32PM THIS IS NEEDED AND WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY ON THAT.
02:30:35PM PART OF THE PICTURE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
02:30:38PM ANYONE WHO MISSED THE LARGER CONVERSATION OF THE CITY WIDE
02:30:42PM STORMWATER MARIN AND THINGS HAPPENING IN SOUTH TAMPA.
02:30:45PM PLEASE WATCH LAST WEEK'S MORNING MEETING.
02:30:48PM LAST THURSDAY MORNING MIDEAST AGENT CITY COUNCIL.
02:30:51PM A LONG DISCUSSION OF THE OVERALL PLAN AND COME BACK TO TALK
02:30:55PM ABOUT IT ON MAY 22.
02:30:57PM AND THE CONSULTANT THAT IS LEADING THE MASTER PLANNING FOR
02:31:00PM THE CITY WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.
02:31:03PM THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME PUSHING THE IDEA
02:31:06PM OF THE -- OF THE PUMPS TO THE MEDIA AND GOTTEN A LOT OF
02:31:13PM COVERAGE AND SOME OF THESE BIG TOWN MEETINGS HAVE GOTTEN
02:31:17PM COVERAGE.
02:31:17PM THESE ARE EASY THINGS AND EASY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND AND
02:31:21PM EASY TO FIX BY PUTTING A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO IT.
02:31:26PM VIK SAID THE OVERALL SOLUTION TO PREENVIRONMENT AND STOPPED
02:31:31PM INTO SOMETHING MORE COMPLICATED.
02:31:32PM SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH TAMPA WAS FLOODED WITH
02:31:36PM WASTEWATER.
02:31:37PM AND A WHOLE DIFFERENT APARTMENT AND ONE COUNTY ISSUE IS NOT
02:31:44PM HAVING A BACKUP GENERATOR.
02:31:46PM BUT THE BUMP WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH.
02:31:55PM AND COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT STORM SURGE.
02:31:58PM IF THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE DOESN'T COME UP WITH IDEAS.
02:32:02PM I GUESS WE WILL AT THIS POINT TO HEAR FLORIDA EXPERTS ON
02:32:06PM THAT.
02:32:07PM NOT VIK'S DEPARTMENT, BUT WE NEED TO TEAL WITH STORM SURGE
02:32:10PM AS WELL.
02:32:11PM MAINTENANCE IS A BIG ISSUE, AND I AM SURE THE ADMINISTRATION
02:32:14PM DOESN'T LIKE TO BE FAULTED WITH ANYTHING.
02:32:15PM THEY COULD BE FAULTED WITH NOT HAVING GENERATORS.
02:32:18PM INSTEAD OF FAULT AND BLAME, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE WE NEED
02:32:21PM TO GO FROM HERE.
02:32:22PM WE ARE WHERE WE ARE AND PEOPLE WRING THEIR HANDS AND BLAME.
02:32:30PM BUT THE PROBLEM WHAT THE CITY IS DOING.
02:32:34PM AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE THEM LONG TERM.
02:32:38PM THE NEW NORMAL, THE 500-YEAR FLOOD MAY BE THE NEW NORMAL.
02:32:44PM WE CAN'T PLAN WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT.
02:32:45PM WE KNOW AS VIK ALLUDED TO, WE NEED NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:32:50PM WE NEED TO BUILD NEW SYSTEMS THAT ANTICIPATE THE LARGER
02:32:54PM THING.
02:32:54PM OTHER THING WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IS PERMITTING AND
02:32:58PM ZONING.
02:32:58PM AT LEAST TWO OR THREE AREAS OF SOUTH TAMPA.
02:33:00PM HOUSES WERE PERMITTED LITERALLY IN RETENTION PONDS.
02:33:09PM JEFF AND I DROVE OUT TO A FEET -- MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSE
02:33:12PM SIX FEET BELOW THE ROAD, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WAS
02:33:15PM PERMITTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
02:33:17PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT PERMITTING AS WELL.
02:33:18PM IN SOUTH TAMPA, ANYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED AND WATCHING, WE
02:33:22PM ARE NOT HAVING BIG TOWN MEETINGS BECAUSE EVERY PROBLEM IS
02:33:25PM DIFFERENT.
02:33:25PM EVEN IN BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS FOR
02:33:30PM DIFFERENT REASONS AND STAFF IS KIND ENOUGH TO GO OUT WITH ME
02:33:33PM AND OTHERS TO LOOK AT THAT.
02:33:34PM WE HAD A BIG TOWN HALL MEETING WITH FEMA AT ONE POINT, BUT
02:33:38PM INSTEAD OF HAVE A BIG MEETING AND HAVE SMALLER MEETINGS SO
02:33:47PM PEOPLE CAN ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:33:51PM SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HIT.
02:33:52PM WE TALK OF MONEY, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS MONEY IS
02:33:54PM COMING FROM, BUT IT IS NOT A QUESTION -- VIK, JUST A
02:33:59PM COMMENT.
02:33:59PM I BELIEVE FOR SEVERAL REASONS THAT THE NOW -- ESPECIALLY
02:34:03PM FROM HAVING PUBLIC RECORDS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE
02:34:07PM PULLED, THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT IS NOT SUFFICIENT AND NOT
02:34:11PM WORK.
02:34:11PM $65 MILLION AND $65 MILLION IN INTEREST.
02:34:14PM I WAS NOT ON THE PREVAILING SIDE.
02:34:16PM I WILL ASK ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES TO REOPEN IT.
02:34:18PM BRING IT BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
02:34:20PM LET THE PEOPLE FROM PARKLAND ESTATES.
02:34:22PM THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE FROM PARKLAND ESTATES WHO
02:34:25PM ARE AGAINST IT TO COME AND PEOPLE FROM HOWARD AVENUE TO
02:34:29PM COME.
02:34:29PM THEY WANT A REAL SOLUTION.
02:34:30PM THEY DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT WILL TAKE FOUR YEARS TO WORK.
02:34:33PM EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT PROPOSED -- OR SUPPORTED THAT SOLUTION,
02:34:36PM THEY ARE COMING AROUND ASKING FOR A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION THAT
02:34:39PM THEY BOOTED US FOR PROPOSING BEFORE.
02:34:42PM CANCEL THAT PROJECT $65 MILLION -- WHATEVER THE $65 MILLION
02:34:47PM WE CAN SPEND ON OTHER MAINTENANCE NOW INCLUDING PALMA CEIA,
02:34:51PM PINES AND PARKLAND ESTATES AND FIX THE FLOODING
02:34:56PM PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE.
02:34:57PM MANY EXPERTS HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE AREA AND KNOW MAINTENANCE
02:35:00PM AND PUMP FIXING AND OTHER THINGS THAT COST A LOT LESS THAN
02:35:02PM $130 MILLION.
02:35:03PM I WILL ASK IF NOTED TO OR SOME POINT MY COLLEAGUES PUT THAT
02:35:07PM BACK ON THE ONLY.
02:35:07PM AND ASK THE ADMINISTRATION NOW FROM PUBLIC RECORDS.
02:35:10PM WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS -- THERE WAS COORDINATION BETWEEN THE
02:35:14PM ADMINISTRATION AND THE -- AND THE PEOPLE WHO PUSHED FOR THAT
02:35:17PM PROJECT.
02:35:17PM THAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE, AND WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT AGAIN.
02:35:20PM INSTEAD HEAR THE AUTHENTIC WORDS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF
02:35:24PM HOW THEY FEEL AND SHOULDN'T SKEW BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROJECT
02:35:30PM AND WANT A QUICK FIX.
02:35:32PM CANCEL THAT AND PROVIDE REAL HELP, IMMEDIATE HELP IN THE
02:35:35PM NEXT RAINFALL, NOT NOW.
02:35:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, MAYBE THIS IS A
02:35:42PM QUESTION FOR MR. BHIDE.
02:35:44PM BECAUSE I WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE FOR SOUTH HOWARD.
02:35:48PM SAME TYPE OF APPREHENSION TALKING TO THE MAYOR.
02:35:51PM WEIGHING THE GOOD VERSUS BAD.
02:35:54PM BUT WHEN WE PASSED SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECT, IT WAS NOT
02:35:58PM WRITTEN IN STONE, DESIGN-BUILD.
02:36:00PM STILL OPTIONS OUT THERE.
02:36:01PM ARE WE STILL PURSUING OPTIONS AND LOOKING AT ALTERNATE
02:36:05PM ROUTES?
02:36:05PM WHEN WE PASSED THAT, IT WAS ASSURED THAT -- THAT -- THINGS
02:36:10PM WERE STILL PINNING.
02:36:11PM YOU ARE STILL LOOKING AT THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR THE
02:36:14PM GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF
02:36:17PM PROPERTY PROTECTION IN THIS PROJECT, CORRECT?
02:36:20PM >>VIK BHIDE: YS YES, THREE ROUTE OPTIONS BEING EVALUATED.
02:36:24PM SWANN TO CONNECT TO HOWARD.
02:36:26PM MORRISON TO CONNECT TO HOWARD.
02:36:28PM OR BRISTOL TO CONNECT TO HOWARD.
02:36:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE NOT LOCKED
02:36:35PM IN ONE PARTICULAR PHASE.
02:36:36PM I VOTED TO CONTINUE KNOWING THAT THERE WERE STILL OPTIONS
02:36:39PM OUT THERE THAT THEY WERE PURSUING.
02:36:40PM AND THAT IT WASN'T -- WASN'T JUST ONE TAKE THIS OR LEAVE IT
02:36:45PM KIND OF SCENARIO THEY WERE USING THEIR SUBJECT MATTER
02:36:49PM EXPERTS TO IDENTIFY THE BEST PROJECT THAT THEY CAN IDENTIFY.
02:36:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY REAL FAST.
02:36:56PM ANYONE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE MAKE A MOTION -- IT HAS TO BE
02:36:59PM SECONDED WITH SOMEBODY ON THE PREVAILING SIDE -- MARTY CAN
02:37:03PM -- NO?
02:37:04PM I WILL ASK THAT WE SCHEDULE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
02:37:07PM NEIGHBORHOODS -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE -- NOT ABOUT
02:37:10PM BUSINESSES VERSUS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:37:12PM A SMALL GROUP IN PARKLAND ESTATES THAT WERE WHIPPED UP BY
02:37:16PM THE ADMINISTRATION TO ARGUE AGAINST EVERYBODY ELSE.
02:37:18PM THAT KIND OF ARGUMENT IS NOT HAPPENING IN ANY OTHER PART OF
02:37:21PM THE CITY INCLUDING SOUTHWEST TAMPA.
02:37:23PM NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH TAMPA ARE WORKING TOGETHER
02:37:26PM COORDINATING.
02:37:26PM PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY SMART.
02:37:28PM WORK FOR ENVIRONMENTALIST.
02:37:32PM ONE WOMAN WORKS REQUEST GOOGLE ANALYTICS.
02:37:36PM AND FROM GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
02:37:38PM IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LONG DISCUSSION OF THE CONTENT.
02:37:42PM REOPEN IT.
02:37:43PM SCHEDULE IT SO THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO FULLY VET ALL THE
02:37:47PM INFORMATION FROM THAT VOTE.
02:37:48PM AND FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS TOLD -- AND I LOOKED AT THE
02:37:51PM TRANSCRIPT THAT THEA IS CONTRIBUTING $11 MILLION.
02:37:55PM WE KNOW FROM PUBLIC RECORD FROM THEA THEY HAVEN'T VOTED ON
02:37:58PM IT.
02:37:59PM AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL BE CONTRIBUTING 11 MILLION.
02:38:02PM A LOT OF FACTORS TO GO THROUGH, LOOK AT THE SUBSTANCE OF IT
02:38:06PM WITH A NEIGHBOR WHO IS HERE.
02:38:07PM VIK AND HIS TEAM CAN COME.
02:38:10PM MAYOR CAN SEND HER PEOPLE.
02:38:13PM AND DETAILED INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN HINDSIGHT AND HAVE
02:38:17PM A ROBUST DISCUSSION.
02:38:19PM SEEING THE FACTS OF WHAT HAPPENED AND POLITICS WHAT
02:38:22PM HAPPENED, I THINK YOU ALL WILL VOTE TO WITHDRAW IT AND GO
02:38:24PM BACK AND SPEND IN MONEY MORE EFFECTIVELY.
02:38:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
02:38:29PM MR. ROGERO, YOU WERE ASKED TO DISCUSS THE FINANCING AND
02:38:33PM WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM AND EVERYTHING FOR THE $10
02:38:36PM MILLION.
02:38:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
02:38:38PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:38:40PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
02:38:44PM I WILL REPEAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR. BHIDE OR
02:38:50PM DIRECTOR BHIDE SAID TO LEVEL SET.
02:38:52PM WHAT YOU HEARD HIM SAY FROM WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE THE
02:38:55PM NEED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE THAT FUNDING RIGHT
02:38:58PM NOW AND WE CAN PROCEED.
02:38:59PM AND WE ARE PROCEEDING.
02:39:00PM STILL 1.5 -- $1.5 MILLIONISH.
02:39:04PM WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT IF A WAY CAN BE FOUND TO ACCELERATE --
02:39:09PM AGAIN, YOU HEARD SOME OF THE LOGISTICAL AND PUTTING THE
02:39:19PM ASSET IN PLACE.
02:39:20PM AND WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE FOR IN FISCAL YEAR.
02:39:23PM ACCELERATE THAT FOR FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD FOR FUNDING, WE
02:39:27PM HAVE A NUMBER OF SOURCES TO DRAW FROM.
02:39:28PM WE ARE GETTING READY TO COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL LATER ON
02:39:31PM THIS MONTH, IF YOU WILL RECALL, OF THE LAST YEAR'S
02:39:35PM CARRYOVER.
02:39:36PM THE FUND BALANCE.
02:39:37PM THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
02:39:38PM WE RECEIVED YOUR QUESTIONS.
02:39:39PM AND FROM WHAT I ANTICIPATE WILL BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION
02:39:43PM LATER ON THIS MONTH IS WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES AND WHAT DOES
02:39:46PM COUNCIL WANT TO DO WITH THE EXCESS FUNDING.
02:39:50PM AGAIN, JUST A QUICK REFRESH.
02:39:52PM WE ENDED LAST YEAR MORE POSITIVELY THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
02:39:56PM I AM VERY PLEASED TO BRING YOU THAT INFORMATION, SO NOW WE
02:40:00PM HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
02:40:01PM AND WE CAN DISCUSS.
02:40:03PM AND I ANSWER COUNCIL WILL WANT TO DISCUSS WHAT WE DO WITH
02:40:07PM THAT.
02:40:07PM ALSO, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE A HURRICANE FUNDING
02:40:12PM BLOCK.
02:40:13PM APPROXIMATELY $7 MILLION EVERY YEAR.
02:40:15PM THAT IS NOT OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATION IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL
02:40:18PM FUNDING BECAUSE HURRICANE SEASON IS COMING FOR THIS FISCAL
02:40:21PM YEAR.
02:40:22PM YOU HEARD -- YOU HEARD DIRECTOR BHIDE TALK OF THE HAZARD
02:40:26PM MITIGATION GRANT.
02:40:26PM POTENTIAL SOURCE OF FUND SOMETHING ALSO -- AND PERHAPS YOU
02:40:30PM READ ABOUT IT, I THINK, THIS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SOURCES.
02:40:34PM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GIVING HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ABOUT
02:40:37PM $700 MILLION UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
02:40:41PM DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAM.
02:40:43PM AS PART OF THAT, I BELIEVE THE NEXT STEPS ARE THE COUNTY
02:40:47PM DEVELOPING AN ACTION PLAN WITH PARTICIPATION FROM THE
02:40:55PM MUNICIPALITIES.
02:40:56PM A BIG UNKNOWN WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD GET, BUT A
02:40:59PM POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE.
02:41:00PM IF WE -- IF -- AND I AM JUST MAKE THIS UP, BUT EITHER
02:41:06PM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION OR DIRECTOR BHIDE OR THE VENDORS
02:41:11PM COULD, AGAIN, ACCELERATE THIS AND WE NEEDED $3 MILLION.
02:41:14PM WE CAN MOVE ON THAT.
02:41:15PM IF WE NEED $5 MILLION.
02:41:17PM BECOME MOVE ON THIS.
02:41:18PM WE CAN MOVE AS FAST AS THE ASSETS AND OPERATIONAL EXPENSES
02:41:25PM ARE NEEDED.
02:41:25PM I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
02:41:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:41:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE MONEY GRANTED FROM THE FEDERAL
02:41:34PM GOVERNMENT.
02:41:34PM FY '25 MONEY ALLOCATE AND RECEIVED BY HILLSBOROUGH?
02:41:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE $700 MILLION?
02:41:42PM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DON'T HAVE THE CASH -- OR HILLSBOROUGH
02:41:45PM COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE THE CASH.
02:41:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS PASSED AND GRANTED.
02:41:48PM SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RESCINDED BY THE CURRENT
02:41:50PM ADMINISTRATION?
02:41:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO SPEAK AS TO WHAT THE
02:41:55PM CURRENT ADMINISTRATION --
02:41:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT A CHECK I COULD CASH.
02:41:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WOULD NOT RELY ON IT UNTIL WE HAD CASH ON
02:42:02PM HAND.
02:42:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SEE THAT MONEY OUT THERE NOT A CHECK THAT
02:42:05PM WE CAN CASH UNTIL IT IS IN OUR HAND.
02:42:10PM WITH A BUDGET -- I KNOW WE ARE JUMPING THE GUN.
02:42:12PM BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THIS PROJECT -- THE
02:42:16PM PALM PROJECT, LOOKING AT NINE -- A MILLION AND A HALF, A $9
02:42:20PM MILLION UNMET NEED THAT WE HAVE TO FIND FROM A DIFFERENT
02:42:23PM POT.
02:42:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, JUST TO CLARIFY, OVER THE NEXT TWO OR
02:42:27PM THREE FISCAL YEARS.
02:42:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE HAD THE MONEY, WOULD IT STILL TAKE
02:42:33PM THAT.
02:42:33PM IF WE HAD $9 MILLION, TO ACCOMPLISH IT QUICKER.
02:42:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: TIMELINE IS TWO YEARS.
02:42:40PM IF WE CAN GET IT DONE IN A YEAR, WE WILL GET IT DONE IN A
02:42:43PM YEAR.
02:42:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF I HAD A FAIRY GODMOTHER WHO GAVE ME
02:42:49PM $10.5 MILLION, YOU CAN DO IT IN A YEAR?
02:42:51PM >>VIK BHIDE: MY PROMISE IS TWO YEARS.
02:42:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU DON'T WANT TO OVERPROMISE AND UNDER
02:42:58PM DELIVER.
02:42:59PM IS THAT WHAT WE ARE SAYING?
02:43:01PM LOOKING AT THE OVERAGE FROM LAST YEAR AND CONTINUE FORWARD.
02:43:04PM WE NEED OUR HEADSET ON THAT.
02:43:07PM WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE ITS GOING TO COME CLOSE TO $9 MILLION
02:43:11PM FOR MONEY THAT WE ARE CARRYING OVER?
02:43:13PM OKAY.
02:43:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN JUST ADD -- AND YOU SURFACED A
02:43:18PM GOOD POINT.
02:43:19PM AGAIN JUST TO LEVEL SET.
02:43:21PM IT APPEARS, AGAIN, BASED ON -- OBJECT ANY INFORMATION, IT
02:43:24PM APPEARS THAT THIS DISCUSSION WILL CARRY INTO THE FISCAL YEAR
02:43:28PM '26 BUDGET PREP OPERATION PROCESS ALSO.
02:43:31PM WHEREVER, OF COURSE, COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT PRIORITIZATIONS
02:43:35PM NOT ONLY ACROSS THE CITY.
02:43:36PM SO WE HAVE GOT, AGAIN, A NUMBER DIFFERENT ANGELS WE CAN
02:43:40PM ATTACK IT.
02:43:41PM BUT YES MY UNDERSTANDING EVEN IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING RIGHT
02:43:44PM NOW, VIK IS LIMITED HOW FAST HE CAN MOVE.
02:43:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY GUT WHEN WE START GETTING TO THIS '26
02:43:51PM DISCUSSION.
02:43:51PM A LOT MOVE NUTS AND BOLTS THAN BELLS AND WHISTLES IN THE
02:43:57PM '26.
02:43:57PM WE HAVE TO BE MORE PRACTICAL IN '26 THAN WE HAVE IN THE
02:44:01PM PAST.
02:44:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:44:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:44:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 70.
02:44:08PM GOING TO GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FIRST.
02:44:11PM ALL RIGHT, SO ITEM 70 WAS A BRIEF WRITTEN RESPONSE TO THIS
02:44:19PM EAST TAMPA -- TO THE FAIR OAKS PROJECT COUNCIL MEMBER
02:44:31PM CARLSON, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD.
02:44:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE SHE IS.
02:44:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO SAY BEFORE
02:44:36PM WE BROKE.
02:44:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:44:38PM WE ARE AT ITEM NUMBER 70 AND I WANTED TO START OFF YOU WITH
02:44:42PM REGARDING THE FAIR OAKS PARK.
02:44:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OH, NO, DON'T START WITH ME.
02:44:50PM WE CAN END WITH ME.
02:44:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:44:52PM ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
02:44:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO GO BACK -- I HATE TO SAY YBOR
02:44:59PM CITY.
02:44:59PM YBOR CITY.
02:44:59PM BUT THAT'S ALL WE HAD.
02:45:01PM CASCADE I CAN'T PARK.
02:45:03PM FAIR OAKS.
02:45:05PM BELMONT HEIGHTS AND JACKSON HEIGHTS.
02:45:07PM WE HAD ROME AND SLIGH.
02:45:10PM WE HAD THE ONE ON SLIGH AND FLORIDA AVENUE, AND IT WAS ABOUT
02:45:20PM EIGHT PARKS AND YOU HAD PALMETTO BEACH AND ALL PLAYED.
02:45:25PM DIFFERENT TIMES AND PLACES.
02:45:27PM AND A DIFFERENT WAY.
02:45:31PM YOU HAVE A PARK DIRECTOR.
02:45:35PM ONE FOR THE BOYS AND ONE FOR THE GIRLS.
02:45:38PM LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, NOT EASY WITH 150 KIDS ON BOTH
02:45:42PM SIDES, GIRLS AND BOYS.
02:45:44PM ONE PERSON AND FOUR OR FIVE TEAMS.
02:45:46PM THAT INDIVIDUAL HAD TO WORK JUST ABOUT DAY OR NIGHT.
02:45:48PM BUT THEY DIDN'T DO IT FOR THE MONEY, THEY DID IT BECAUSE
02:45:51PM THEY WANTED THOSE KIDS TO DO BETTER.
02:45:53PM THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT INCLUDING THIS PARK HERE.
02:45:56PM AND I REMEMBER ALL THOSE PARKS.
02:45:58PM AND, IN FACT, THERE WAS ONLY THREE HIGH SCHOOLS.
02:46:01PM PLANT, HILLSBOROUGH AND JEFFERSON AT THAT TIME.
02:46:04PM SO I KNOW I AM GOING BACK IN AGE.
02:46:08PM I AM NOT THAT OLD.
02:46:10PM I AM OLDER.
02:46:11PM YOU CAN FEEL BETTER NOW.
02:46:13PM >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
02:46:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THESE ARE THINGS I REMEMBER GROWING UP.
02:46:16PM AND NOBODY HAD ANYTHING, AND THEN PEOPLE WERE HAPPY.
02:46:20PM PEOPLE HAVE A LOT MORE AND MOST ARE NOT HAPPY.
02:46:23PM TIMES HAVE CHANGED, I GUESS.
02:46:24PM SO IT IS WHAT IT IS.
02:46:26PM BUT I HAD NO OBJECTION WITH NAMING SOMETHING.
02:46:30PM HAVING IT LIKE IT WAS AT THIS TIME FAIR OAKS PARK AND MAKING
02:46:37PM SOMETHING FROM THE BUILDING LIKE WE DID FOR YANKEE STADIUM.
02:46:41PM YANKEE STADIUM, THE FIELD WAS NAMED JUST YANKEE STADIUM.
02:46:47PM CHANGED THAT.
02:46:48PM THE STADIUM ITSELF BUT THE PLAYING FIELD, GEORGE
02:46:52PM STEINBRENNER FIELD.
02:46:52PM THIS IS THE SAME THING AS THIS, REALLY.
02:46:54PM SO I'M NOT AGAINST ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
02:46:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:47:00PM ANYBODY ELSE?
02:47:01PM MY OPINION IS, IT SHOULD STAY FAIR OAKS PARK.
02:47:04PM AND, AGAIN, AS YOU WERE JUST MENTIONING, IF THE FIELD IS
02:47:08PM NAMED SOMETHING OR THE BUILDING OR THE ROOM OR SOMETHING,
02:47:11PM BUT THE PARK IS ALWAYS KNOWN AS FAIR OAKS, WE WILL HAVE FAIR
02:47:14PM OAKS.
02:47:14PM AND THAT IS REALLY -- THAT'S IT.
02:47:16PM SO, YES, SIR.
02:47:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OBVIOUSLY, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WILL HAVE
02:47:23PM THE FINAL WORD, BUT I ASK TO REMOVE ITEM 70 FROM FUTURE
02:47:28PM AGENDAS AND READDRESS THIS IF WE WANT RENAMING AND START THE
02:47:32PM PROCESS OVER AGAIN WITH A NEW PROCEDURE.
02:47:34PM NEW COUNCIL.
02:47:35PM NEW PEOPLE.
02:47:35PM A NEW REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 5.
02:47:38PM I THINK ITEM 70 SHOULD BE MOVED AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO
02:47:42PM RENAME A BUILDING, WE CAN START FROM THERE.
02:47:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
02:47:45PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:47:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
02:47:49PM REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
02:47:50PM FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS COME FROM
02:47:54PM MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS.
02:47:56PM IS MICHELLE VAN LOAN IN THE BUILDING TODAY?
02:48:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE WAS HERE EARLIER BUT NOT IN THE ROOM
02:48:02PM NOW.
02:48:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK THE
02:48:06PM COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF, THIS PROBABLY WAS APPROVED
02:48:09PM AS THE EAST TAMPA RECREATION COMPLEX.
02:48:11PM WORD FAIR OAKS DID NOT EXIST IN THE ACTUAL PROJECT NAME AT
02:48:16PM ALL.
02:48:16PM NEEDS TO BE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
02:48:18PM AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN LUKE AT ALL OF THE
02:48:25PM OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS, SEE IT AT THE EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL
02:48:29PM COMPLEX.
02:48:29PM COMMUNITY MAY REFERENCE IT AS FAIR OAKS.
02:48:32PM SOME KIND OF NAMING WHEN THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED OR PRIOR
02:48:35PM TO ITS APPROVAL AND THAT IS ON THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS.
02:48:38PM MAYBE MISS FEELEY -- I SEE HER ONLINE.
02:48:41PM DO YOU WANT TO CONFIRM THAT FOR ME?
02:48:46PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
02:48:47PM WHILE THERE ARE DOCUMENTS THAT REFERENCE THE PROJECT, I
02:48:51PM DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS -- THAT ANY OFFICIAL NAME HAS BEEN
02:48:56PM GIVEN TO THAT.
02:48:57PM PART OF WHAT THE MEMO WAS SPEAKING TO.
02:49:00PM AND THAT IS THAT WHILE THIS FACILITY IS NOW UNDER
02:49:05PM CONSTRUCTION, WE WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH
02:49:08PM THE COMMUNITY AND TO WORK ON APPEAR MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND
02:49:11PM HOLISTIC NAMING APPROACH BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THINGS TO
02:49:17PM JUST START -- I WANT THE FIELD.
02:49:19PM I WANT THIS.
02:49:21PM I WANT THAT.
02:49:22PM WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY IN A MORE
02:49:25PM HOLISTIC WAY.
02:49:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
02:49:32PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR.
02:49:34PM ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO ADDRESS, THE
02:49:39PM ARTIS GAMBRELL NAMING.
02:49:40PM IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY THIS.
02:49:42PM ARTIS GAMBRELL WAS EMPLOYED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:49:45PM HE SERVED AS A PUBLIC SERVANT IN THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
02:49:50PM HEAVILY ENGAGED IN SPORTS.
02:49:52PM I DID MY OWN RESEARCH WITH THELMA HEIGHTS LITTLE LEAGUE AND
02:49:55PM HE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS.
02:49:57PM JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO OUR VARIOUS COMMUNITIES.
02:50:00PM I DO RESPECT THAT.
02:50:01PM IN THIS INSTANCE, BECAUSE THE NATURE OF THE
02:50:07PM 33,000-PLUS-SQUARE-FEET OF A COMPLEX, IT REALLY DOES PROVIDE
02:50:10PM US WITH AROUND OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A THOUGHTFUL APPROACH
02:50:13PM WHERE THE ONE PERSON CANNOT REALLY HOLD TRUE SIGNIFICANCE TO
02:50:21PM ALL OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT SO MANY MEMBERS OF THIS
02:50:25PM COMMUNITY HAVE MADE.
02:50:25PM AND SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL
02:50:30PM SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF BEING 33 ELEMENTS THAT
02:50:35PM EXIST AT THIS PARK.
02:50:36PM THEY ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE A
02:50:42PM TRUE HISTORICAL RECORD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE
02:50:47PM TAKING PLACE IN EAST TAMPA.
02:50:49PM IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CREATE A FACILITY FULL
02:50:54PM OF RICH HISTORY BECAUSE THERE ARE 32 ELEMENTS ON THIS SITE.
02:50:58PM THERE IS THE -- THE GYMNASIUM, THERE IS THE SENIOR CITIZEN,
02:51:03PM THE WEIGHT ROOM, THE FIELD, THE COURTS -- TWO COURTS.
02:51:06PM INDOOR AND OUTDOORS.
02:51:07PM INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR.
02:51:09PM THE POND NAMED OF A HERB CARRINGTON.
02:51:12PM THE CONCESSION PLAN.
02:51:14PM THE SPLASH PAD.
02:51:15PM PEDESTRIAN PLAZA.
02:51:17PM PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOGNIZE GOOD PUBLIC SERVANTS
02:51:21PM WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
02:51:24PM AND IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY
02:51:28PM ENGAGE IN COMING UP WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY
02:51:34PM CONTRIBUTED TO EAST TAMPA BECAUSE OF THIS NEW BEAUTIFUL
02:51:37PM INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS 33,000 SQUARE FEET.
02:51:40PM INCLUDING CLASSROOM SPACES AS WELL.
02:51:42PM LIKE I SAID 33 DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT COULD EASILY PROVIDE
02:51:47PM OPPORTUNITIES TO BE RECOGNIZED, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, 14
02:51:52PM SHADED STRUCTURES, THE EVENT LAWN.
02:51:54PM IT IS ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SPACES THAT COULD BE
02:52:01PM REALLY THOUGHTFUL IN HIGHLIGHTING COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND
02:52:04PM CELEBRATING LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
02:52:06PM PARTICULARLY WHEN WE GET INTO THIS HABIT OF LOOKING AT
02:52:13PM COMMUNITY SOLDIERS, WOMEN KIND OF GET LEFT IN THE
02:52:17PM BACKGROUND, AND THAT IS NOT TRUE ABOUT EAST TAMPA.
02:52:20PM SO THERE IS JUST OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
02:52:26PM MORE THOUGHTFUL UNTIL THIS PROCESS.
02:52:28PM I DO AGREE WITH MR. CLENDENIN, MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER THAT
02:52:31PM WE REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.
02:52:34PM IT IS JUST NOT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO NAME IT AFTER ONE
02:52:38PM INDIVIDUAL.
02:52:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT IS A MOTION.
02:52:40PM AND I SECOND.
02:52:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN
02:52:44PM TO REMOVE ITEM 70.
02:52:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I SECOND THAT MOTION.
02:52:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO CLARIFY.
02:52:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 70, 22-78-36.
02:52:56PM AND IF ANY COUNCIL PERSON IN THE FUTURE WANTS TO ADDRESS THE
02:53:00PM NAMING OF THE PARK OR ANY COMPONENT OF THE PARK, THEY CAN
02:53:03PM FOLLOW THE NEW COUNCIL PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE FOR RENAMING.
02:53:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:53:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND THAT MOTION.
02:53:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE JUST HAD A CLARIFICATION.
02:53:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:53:20PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:53:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT ABOUT THE AMEND.
02:53:23PM I HAVE ONE AFTER THAT.
02:53:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT -- WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
02:53:29PM FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:53:30PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:53:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:53:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:53:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:53:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:53:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:53:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:53:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:53:42PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:53:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS.
02:53:47PM I WILL JUST READ WHAT I WROTE DOWN.
02:53:51PM MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO INCLUDE QUESTIONS OF NAMING IN
02:53:55PM THEIR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON FAIR OAKS PARK, INCLUDING --
02:54:01PM INCLUDING THE NAME ARTIS GAMBRELL.
02:54:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE THE PROCESS.
02:54:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE LOOK THAT THE IN
02:54:12PM PARTICULAR.
02:54:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL HAS A
02:54:15PM PROCESS OF NAMING.
02:54:16PM COUNCIL CAN TAKE IT IF THEY WANT TO PICK OWNERSHIP ON IT.
02:54:21PM KIND OF WORK SLOPPY RIGHT NOW, I THINK.
02:54:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:54:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: A PROCESS WHERE YOU DO LETTERS OF SUPPORT --
02:54:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM NOT PROPOSING NAMING ANYTHING.
02:54:34PM I AM PROPOSING CITY STAFF TO INCLUDE QUESTIONS --
02:54:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
02:54:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
02:54:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS FEELEY -- I DON'T KNOW IF SHE IS STILL
02:54:44PM ON THE LINE.
02:54:45PM THE MEMO SPECIFICALLY ON THE FILE BACK TO THIS ITEM.
02:54:50PM THE CONTINUANCE WAS REQUESTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING
02:54:54PM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PROVIDE THE
02:54:57PM NAMING OF A COMPLEX OR FACILITIES THEREIN.
02:55:00PM CITY'S COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PARTNERSHIP STAFF WITH WORK WITH
02:55:04PM COUNCIL TO HELP FACILITATE MEETING TO SOLICIT COMMUNITY
02:55:09PM INPUT ENABLING COUNCIL TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY BEFORE MAKING
02:55:12PM A FINAL DETERMINATION.
02:55:13PM THAT IS THE MEMO THAT IS FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN DATED
02:55:19PM FEBRUARY 6, 2025.
02:55:20PM SO THAT -- THAT -- THAT IS THE POISON THAT IS.
02:55:23PM IF -- IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THAT MEMO,
02:55:28PM JUST TO AFFIRM THAT MEMO.
02:55:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I SAY SOMETHING?
02:55:35PM I DON'T KNOW THIS IS NECESSARY.
02:55:36PM WE HAVE A CLEARLY DEFINED PROCESS FOR COUNCIL TO NAME.
02:55:39PM AND THE ADMINISTRATION -- IT IS INITIATED BY THE
02:55:42PM ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY FOLLOW.
02:55:43PM WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE IN -- I SEE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
02:55:46PM WANTS TO SPEAK UP.
02:55:47PM BUT SOMEBODY FROM COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE OUR PROCEDURE AROUND
02:55:52PM ADMINISTRATION.
02:55:52PM KIND OF SELF-GUIDED.
02:55:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I -- IT IS ABBYE FEELEY.
02:56:00PM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
02:56:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE HONORARY NAMINGS,
02:56:07PM I JUST WANT TO MENTION -- WE HAVE NOT HAD A FACILITY LIKE
02:56:11PM THIS, THAT IS BRAND-NEW WITH A NUMBER OF NAMING
02:56:14PM OPPORTUNITIES THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON JUST TOUCHED ON.
02:56:19PM WHILE I AGREE WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE NOW SET UP FOR
02:56:22PM BOTH COUNCIL TO BRING FORTH AND, I THINK, WE ARE STILL GOING
02:56:26PM TO RUN INTO THE SAME PROBLEM.
02:56:27PM AND I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BRING TO YOU TODAY IS US
02:56:31PM RECOGNIZING AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH
02:56:35PM COUNCIL TO SAY THIS IS -- I DON'T WANT TO SAYS IT AN
02:56:38PM ANOMALY, IT IS AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SAY, HERE IS
02:56:42PM A WHOLE FACILITY.
02:56:43PM AND IT DOES HAVE MANY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.
02:56:47PM I THINKING THERE MAY EVEN BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
02:56:49PM AND WE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS PARKS AND
02:56:54PM RECREATION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND MYSELF.
02:56:57PM AND I AM KIND OF THE SPOKESPERSON TODAY BECAUSE THIS CAME
02:57:00PM THROUGH THE HONORARY NAMING PIPELINE BUT PRESENTED USES WITH
02:57:09PM A LARGER OPPORTUNITY THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS IN A MORE
02:57:12PM COHESIVE WAY TO WORK WITH FACILITY FROM THE COMMUNITY AND
02:57:17PM TAKE THAT INPUT AND PERHAPS IN LIEU OF COUNCIL BRINGING
02:57:22PM FORTH ONE OR TWO OR THREE AND LET US HEAR THAT AND BRING IT
02:57:32PM BACK.
02:57:32PM >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I WILL ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN
02:57:36PM HENDERSON SAID.
02:57:36PM WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS.
02:57:40PM SO MUCH BIGGER -- WE LOOK AT THIS THING THROUGH SUCH A SMALL
02:57:43PM MOMENT IN TIME.
02:57:44PM THAT -- AND WE ARE -- AS COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA HAS
02:57:51PM SAID, HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE WITH FAIR OAKS AND OBVIOUSLY
02:57:54PM RECOGNIZED BY THE COMMUNITY.
02:57:55PM THIS IS NOT AN EMERGENCY.
02:57:56PM THIS ISN'T PUMPING STATIONS AND FLOODING AND DEVASTATION IN
02:58:01PM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
02:58:02PM WE HAVE TIME TO DO THESE THINGS.
02:58:03PM I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST USES OUR TIME.
02:58:07PM I THINK WE NEED -- IF SOMEONE WANTS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN
02:58:10PM THIS, IF IT IS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BECAUSE DISTRICT FIVE
02:58:14PM OR ADMINISTRATION OR SOMEONE HE WAS ON THIS COUNCIL.
02:58:16PM THEM DO THIS N IN A VERY DELIBERATE WAY.
02:58:19PM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE TODAY.
02:58:21PM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COME TO TOMORROW.
02:58:23PM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE IN FIVE YEARS.
02:58:25PM AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID, WE NEED TO BE VERY
02:58:28PM DELIBERATE ABOUT IT.
02:58:29PM VERY SIGNIFICANT FIGURES THAT NONE OF US HAVE EVER MET AND
02:58:34PM OVERLOOKED IN HISTORY THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK THROUGH.
02:58:37PM THE OWNER OF A BOOK STORE, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSSED ON THAT
02:58:41PM SECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY PROBABLY IS MORE VERSED THAN I AM.
02:58:48PM THING THIS A SOLUTION LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM.
02:58:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:58:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY MOTION DIDN'T GET A SECOND, SO I WILL
02:59:00PM WITHDRAW IT.
02:59:01PM I JUST WANT TO SAY MISS FEELEY, I AGREE YOU WITH AND SOMEONE
02:59:05PM WHO USED TO DO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR A LIVING, I TOTALLY
02:59:08PM AGREE WHEN GAUGING THE PUBLIC, THOUGH WE DID HEAR FROM A LOT
02:59:12PM OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TODAY.
02:59:13PM MY ONLY REASON IN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT, THE FAMILY
02:59:19PM AND FRIENDS OF THIS PERSON THREE YEARS AGO HAD AN
02:59:22PM EXPECTATION WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.
02:59:24PM SO I THINK WE SHOULD DECIDE OR BRING IT TO A CONCLUSION.
02:59:27PM SOUNDS LIKE IT IS COMING TO A CONCLUSION.
02:59:29PM BUT THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY IS THAT I HOPE THAT YOU AND
02:59:32PM THE OTHERS ON STAFF WILL LOOK AT THIS AS A -- AS A TRUE
02:59:36PM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
02:59:40PM THAT PARK HAS BEEN HIGHLY POLITICIZED OVER THE LAST FEW
02:59:46PM YEARS.
02:59:46PM CITY COUNCIL HAD A POSITION ON THIS AND HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC
02:59:48PM MEETING ON IT AND PUT THE FIRST AMOUNT OF FUNDING ON IT.
02:59:52PM AND THE ADMINISTRATION TRYING TO ONE-UP CITY COUNCIL.
02:59:55PM AND WE SHOULD REALLY LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE
02:59:57PM COMMUNITY WANTS.
02:59:58PM AND I WILL JUST SAY FROM EVERYBODY WHO IS A FRIEND AND
03:00:00PM FAMILY OF ARTIS GAMBRELL.
03:00:03PM SHOW UP AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
03:00:06PM SHOW UP AND PUSH FOR SOMETHING TO BE NAMED AFTER HIM.
03:00:08PM IF YOU ALL DO THAT AND GETS FED BACK TO US, I AM HAPPY
03:00:12PM TO MAKE A MOTION AT THAT TIME.
03:00:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:00:15PM THINKING ELSE?
03:00:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY BRIEFLY.
03:00:17PM I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID.
03:00:20PM THIS GENTLEMAN -- AN EXPECTATION WAS MADE.
03:00:23PM I AM NOT THE DISTRICT COUNCILMEMBER.
03:00:25PM I DEFER TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WITH GREAT DEFERENCE ON
03:00:34PM THIS ISSUE.
03:00:34PM I HOPE THAT SOMETHING WILL BE NAMED AFTER IN YOUNG MAN WITH
03:00:39PM SIGNIFICANT MEANING.
03:00:41PM I THINK THAT WILL BE WONDERFUL.
03:00:43PM I DEFER TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR MANY REASONS, THE
03:00:46PM REASONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN GAVE.
03:00:48PM I GIVE GREAT DEFERENCE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS FOR HER BEING
03:00:53PM MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO REPRESENT THIS AREA AND OWNER OF BLACK
03:00:57PM ENGLISH BOOK STORE.
03:00:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:01:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS SAYING MR. GAMBRELL.
03:01:05PM A GREAT PUBLIC SERVANT AND SERVED OUR CITY WELL IN THE PARKS
03:01:09PM AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
03:01:10PM THE OPPORTUNITY IS STILL THERE.
03:01:12PM FAMILY'S EXPECTATION.
03:01:14PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
03:01:15PM BUT OUR JOB AS SEVEN ELECTED MEMBERS OF THIS BODY TO BE VERY
03:01:19PM THOUGHTFUL IN THE NEXT STEPS TO TAKE.
03:01:21PM ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
03:01:24PM THERE HAS JUST BEEN TOO MANY MISSTEPS, AND THIS IS THE
03:01:33PM OPPORTUNITY.
03:01:33PM I AGREE WITH MISS FEELEY THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE IS
03:01:36PM VERY IMPORTANT, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THAT RIGHT NOW.
03:01:39PM THAT MEMO IS VIABLE AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THAT THE
03:01:41PM WHEN I AM FEELING A LOT BETTER, BUT I DON'T WANT THE MEMBERS
03:01:46PM OF THE GAMBRELL FAMILY TO THINK THIS IS THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER
03:01:51PM BEING AGAINST HIM AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
03:01:53PM I RESPECT THE WORK HE HAS DONE AS A PUBLIC SERVANT WITH
03:02:00PM RESPECT TO THE BOARDS HE WAS INVOLVED IN.
03:02:02PM I REALLY DO.
03:02:03PM BUT A BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY GET
03:02:12PM AND GET THIS RIGHT.
03:02:13PM AWARD WINNING 3,000 SQUARE-FOOT COMPLEX PROVIDES WITH US SO
03:02:17PM MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE HISTORY, ESPECIALLY WHEN SO
03:02:23PM MANY THINGS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
03:02:25PM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
03:02:27PM THIS SPACE ACTUALLY EXISTS AND IS OUR JOB TO BE GOOD KEEPERS
03:02:34PM OF IT.
03:02:34PM IT REALLY IS.
03:02:35PM AND THIS PRESENTS US WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT.
03:02:38PM I AM SURE THAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER'S HEART WAS IN
03:02:42PM THE RIGHT PLACE.
03:02:43PM AND HE HAD GOOD INTENTIONS.
03:02:45PM BUT THIS IS A NEW COUNCIL.
03:02:46PM AND THIS PROVIDES USES WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER
03:02:50PM OTHER FACTORS AS WELL.
03:02:52PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
03:02:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:02:54PM THANK YOU VERY.
03:02:54PM THAT CONCLUDES THIS DISCUSSION FOR 70 AND GO ON TO ITEM 73
03:03:00PM FOR FIVE-MINUTE REPORT ON MONITORING THE PARKING COMPLIANCE
03:03:03PM IN YBOR CITY.
03:03:05PM I DON'T KNOW IF MR. O'CONNOR IS ON LINE AND LAST ITEM WILL
03:03:10PM BE REGARDING THE TENTATIVE 2025-2026 COUNCIL CALENDAR.
03:03:15PM MR. O'CONNOR.
03:03:17PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:03:18PM >> ALL RIGHT.
03:03:19PM WE HAVE SUBMITTED THE MEMO.
03:03:21PM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL HAS SOME QUESTIONS IN RELATION
03:03:24PM WITH THAT MEMO.
03:03:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WANTS TO KICK IT OFF.
03:03:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ASKED FOR A FIVE-MINUTE REPORT.
03:03:36PM AND I ASKED FOR SOME SLIDES.
03:03:38PM YEAH.
03:03:38PM I TALKED TO MISS FEELEY ABOUT IT ON TUESDAY.
03:03:42PM SUPPOSED TO BE AN IN-PERSON FIVE-MINUTE REPORT.
03:03:51PM >> OKAY.
03:03:51PM WE DON'T HAVE ANY SLIDES.
03:03:53PM WE HAD MEMO THAT WE SUBMITTED.
03:03:55PM QUICK OVER THE SECURITY PART OF THE MEMO.
03:03:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I WOULD LIKE FOR TO YOU GO OVER ALL OF
03:04:01PM IT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT TO TELL THE PUBLIC
03:04:04PM ABOUT IT.
03:04:04PM >> NO, I UNDERSTAND.
03:04:06PM BUT TWO OF US SITTING HERE.
03:04:07PM I WILL GO OVER THE SECURITY PART AND DENNIS WILL GO OVER THE
03:04:11PM OTHER PART.
03:04:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
03:04:12PM >> OKAY.
03:04:13PM SO SINCE THE SECURITY REQUIREMENT CHANGED OCTOBER 15, WE
03:04:20PM HAVE BEEN DOING INSPECTION OF THE LOTS.
03:04:21PM AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE BROUGHT 46 CASES BEFORE THE SPECIAL
03:04:28PM MAGISTRATE.
03:04:28PM FIRST SET OF CASES WERE LAID A OUT.
03:04:31PM ACTUALLY ALL THE CASES ARE DONE NOW.
03:04:38PM ALL 46 CASES HAVE BEEN HEARD.
03:04:40PM 29 OF THOSE CASES HAVE BEEN FOUND IN VIOLATION.
03:04:43PM IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WERE FOUND GUILTY BASICALLY OF NOT
03:04:47PM MEETING THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.
03:04:49PM THE FINES THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ASSESSED WERE BETWEEN
03:04:52PM $75 AND $500 TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
03:04:56PM 14 OF THOSE CASES HAVE BEEN CONTINUED SO DURING THE HEARING,
03:05:01PM THERE WAS SOME MORE EVIDENCE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WANTED
03:05:05PM TO SUBMIT TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SO THEY WERE CONTINUED.
03:05:08PM AND THREE OF THOSE CASES WERE REMANDED OR DISMISSED.
03:05:13PM SO THAT'S -- AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, THE LAST TIME WE FOUND A
03:05:17PM PARKING LOT IN VIOLATION OF THE SECURITY REQUIREMENT WAS IN
03:05:20PM DECEMBER.
03:05:20PM SO ALL -- ALL THE BIG PLAYERS IN YBOR CITY AS FAR AS PAID
03:05:26PM PARKING LOT IN THE WEEKENDS HAVE HIRED SECURITY AND THE
03:05:29PM INSPECTIONS THUS FAR THIS YEAR, WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY
03:05:33PM VIOLATIONS.
03:05:34PM IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE GAIN COMPLIANCE FOR THAT PART OF THE
03:05:38PM CODE.
03:05:38PM THAT MY REPORT ON THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS AND THE
03:05:42PM ENFORCEMENT ONLY THAT.
03:05:43PM I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO
03:05:46PM DENNIS FOR HIS PART.
03:05:52PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, DENNIS
03:05:54PM FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PRESERVATION MANAGER.
03:05:58PM MY ROLE IS OVERSEEING THE PARKING LOT CONFIGURATIONS.
03:06:01PM WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED ALONG WITH KEITH AND SEEKING COMPLIANCE
03:06:05PM OF THE EXISTING PARKING LOTS IN THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC
03:06:10PM DISTRICT.
03:06:11PM CURRENTLY REVIEWED 12 APPLICATIONS THAT INCLUDED 14 PARKING
03:06:15PM LOTS.
03:06:15PM OF THOSE, ONLY TWO REMAIN IN PROCESS.
03:06:18PM OTHERS HAVE EITHER RECEIVED THEIR APPROVAL OR WITHDRAWN
03:06:25PM THEIR APPLICATION BASED ON NOT UTILIZING THE PARCELS FOR
03:06:28PM PARKING ANY LONGER.
03:06:29PM SO OF THE TWO, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE VARIOUS PROCESSES
03:06:34PM THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE ZONING AND NATURAL RESOURCES TO
03:06:37PM GAIN COMPLIANCE.
03:06:38PM ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE ENGAGED IN THE -- IN THE ANNUAL
03:06:43PM OPERATION AND SECURITY PLAN REQUIREMENT, WHICH WAS
03:06:47PM INTRODUCED INTO THE CODE IN OCTOBER.
03:06:50PM AND 27-178 WHEN THE CODE WAS UPDATED.
03:06:54PM WE RECEIVED SEVEN REPORTS.
03:06:59PM THERE IS -- THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
03:07:01PM WE ARE WORKING WITH THE REMAINING 27 OPERATORS TO COME INTO
03:07:07PM COMPLIANCE.
03:07:08PM SOME OF THOSE MAY COME INTO COMPLIANCE NOW THAT ENFORCEMENT
03:07:18PM AS WITH THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.
03:07:20PM AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
03:07:22PM AND IF THAT IS NOT ACHIEVED IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE WILL
03:07:26PM BEGIN CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES ON THAT AS WELL.
03:07:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:07:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU SAID 27 OUTSTANDING SECURITY PLANS YOU
03:07:40PM ARE WAITING FOR?
03:07:42PM >> 27 PARKING LOTS THAT -- THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS
03:07:46PM NEEDING TO SUBMIT SECURITY PLANS.
03:07:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT NEED TO?
03:07:51PM OKAY.
03:07:51PM IF THEY DON'T SUBMIT SECURITY PLANS, THEN THEY BECOME OUT OF
03:07:56PM COMPLIANCE?
03:07:56PM WHAT IS THE DEADLINE FOR THAT?
03:08:00PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE DID IT, SO WE
03:08:04PM ALLOWED ADDITIONAL TIME UNTIL FEBRUARY TO SUBMIT THE PLANS.
03:08:06PM WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH A NUMBER OF THE OPERATORS; HOWEVER,
03:08:11PM THEY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THE PLANS.
03:08:13PM SOME OF THESE WILL HAVE TO GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF
03:08:16PM APPROPRIATENESS BECAUSE ONE OF THE EXHIBITS THEY HAVE TO
03:08:20PM SUBMIT WITH THE -- WHERE THEIR -- THEIR SUBMISSION AND
03:08:24PM AFFIDAVIT.
03:08:24PM SO AS THEY DO THAT, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COME INTO
03:08:28PM COMPLIANCE.
03:08:28PM AND IF THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE SAME
03:08:31PM PROCESS.
03:08:31PM BECAUSE KEITH WAS OUTLINING WITH SEEKING COMPLIANCE THROUGH
03:08:36PM THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
03:08:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
03:08:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO I AM A LITTLE UNEASY WITH LOOSEY
03:08:45PM GOOSEYNESS WITH THAT WITH AN ORDINANCE PASSED BY COUNCIL.
03:08:48PM WHAT IS THE DEADLINE?
03:08:51PM DO WE HAVE A DEADLINE?
03:08:52PM WHEN DO YOU SEE YOU GETTING THESE PARKING LOTS UNDER
03:08:55PM COMPLIANCE?
03:08:58PM >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE BY MID-FEBRUARY.
03:09:01PM OR THEY WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT TO US BY MID-FEBRUARY.
03:09:05PM OR ELSE THEY WILL BE PUT IN VIOLATION CLENDENIN CLENDENIN
03:09:11PM WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS.
03:09:12PM SUBMIT BY MID-FEBRUARY, THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
03:09:17PM >> THEN MY STAFF WOULD EVALUATE IF THEY MET THEIR
03:09:21PM REQUIREMENTS UNDER 178, WITH THE AFFIDAVIT AND THE EXHIBITS.
03:09:26PM ONE OF THOSE EXHIBITS IS THIS PERIOD -- THE SECURITY
03:09:34PM AGREEMENT AND WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY INDICATE THAT AS BEING IN
03:09:40PM COMPLIANCE.
03:09:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE FOR THAT.
03:09:43PM >> A FAIRLY QUICK PROCESS BECAUSE THE EXHIBITS ARE INCLUDED
03:09:45PM IN THE SUBMISSION.
03:09:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAY HYPOTHETICALLY 100% OF PARKING LOTS
03:09:51PM SUBMIT THEIR PLAN BY FEBRUARY 15.
03:09:53PM AND SEVEN OF THEM ARE FOUND NOT -- ARE FOUND OUT OF
03:09:58PM COMPLIANCE.
03:09:59PM WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF ENFORCEMENT AT THAT POINT WHEN
03:10:02PM THEY CEASE DOING BUSINESS AS PARKING LOT?
03:10:05PM >> WELL, WE WOULD INITIATE VIOLATION UNDER 178.
03:10:11PM AND WE WOULD SEEK COMPLIANCE THROUGH THAT ENFORCEMENT
03:10:17PM PROCESS.
03:10:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE.
03:10:20PM >> THROUGH THE DISTRICT.
03:10:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE TIMELINE LOOK LIKE?
03:10:24PM EDUCATE MERE BECAUSE I AM NOT IN YOUR BUSINESS?
03:10:27PM >> BASICALLY IF WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP A CASE AND FIND THEM
03:10:30PM IN VIOLATION, WE WOULD SEND THEM A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
03:10:35PM THEN THEY WILL GO BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
03:10:37PM HELD DIFFERENT THAN THE IS HE REQUIREMENT.
03:10:41PM WE DO THAT WITH IRREPUTABLE DAMAGES WITH A FINE ASSESSED TO
03:10:45PM THAT.
03:10:46PM THIS WILL BE A SEPARATE ONE AND TYPICALLY TWO TO THREE
03:10:49PM MONTHS OUT TO GET THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND ON THE DOCKET
03:10:52PM FOR THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
03:10:54PM THE PENALTY WILL BE ASSESSED AT THAT HEARING.
03:10:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN -- YOU GAVE THEM
03:11:00PM EXTRA TIME.
03:11:01PM HOW MUCH TIME AND WHAT DID YOU GIVE THEM?
03:11:06PM >> WE GAVE THEM AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS.
03:11:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
03:11:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
03:11:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
03:11:15PM AND SOUNDS LIKE WE WILL HAVE AN INTER,ESTING REPORT ON APRIL
03:11:19PM 3.
03:11:19PM HOPEFULLY, WE WILL HAVE GREAT UPDATES.
03:11:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:11:23PM LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 74 REGARDING THE TENTATIVE
03:11:26PM CALENDAR.
03:11:27PM MISS SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES IS HERE.
03:11:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ASKED THAT WE HAVE IN-PERSON.
03:11:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SPOKE TO MISS KOPESKY AND SHE DIDN'T KNOW
03:11:40PM BECAUSE SHE WASN'T HERE RIGHTS AWAY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE
03:11:43PM HAD SOMETHING SHE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OR NOT.
03:11:49PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
03:11:54PM WE REVIEWED THE CALENDAR AND A POSSIBILITY OF TRYING TO WORK
03:11:58PM SOMETHING IN.
03:11:58PM UNFORTUNATELY, I HAD ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER PRO PROVIDE ME
03:12:02PM WITH A CORRECTION TO SOME DATES.
03:12:03PM SO THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS NOT GOING TO WORK SO I DID NOT MOVE
03:12:07PM FORWARD WITH THAT.
03:12:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO GIVEN HER THE OPPORTUNITY
03:12:12PM MANHATTAN MANISCALCO MISS FOXX-KNOWLES.
03:12:18PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL,
03:12:21PM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, COUNTY CLERK.
03:12:24PM HERE TO TRANSMIT THE 2025-2026 CITY COUNCIL CALENDAR FOR THE
03:12:30PM PERIOD FROM FEBRUARY 6, 2025 THROUGH JULY 31, 2026 FOR
03:12:40PM COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
03:12:42PM AND IT WAS EXTRA TIME PUT ON THIS BECAUSE FOR PLANNING
03:12:48PM PURPOSES.
03:12:49PM I GUESS YOU GET MORE VACATION.
03:12:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL I DO IS GET TO WORK.
03:12:57PM ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE?
03:12:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:12:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:13:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE TO ADOPT.
03:13:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO ADOPT THE CALENDAR FROM COUNCIL
03:13:06PM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:13:06PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:13:07PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:13:08PM OVER POSED?
03:13:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
03:13:10PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:13:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THOUGHT YOU HAD TO DO A ROLL CALL SINCE
03:13:15PM I AM NOT HERE.
03:13:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WASN'T A LEGISLATIVE --
03:13:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TO ADOPT THE CALENDAR.
03:13:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO A ROLL CALL -- A ROLL CALL
03:13:26PM VOTE.
03:13:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF IT IS A RULE, IT IS A RULE.
03:13:30PM I WANT TO US TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
03:13:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:13:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:13:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:13:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
03:13:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
03:13:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:13:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD HAVE PAID YOU A DOLLAR TO SAY NO.
03:13:48PM >>CLERK: VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:13:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
03:13:51PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS?
03:13:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DO, CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:13:55PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO -- ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY
03:14:02PM COUNCIL TO PROVIDE A COMMENDATION TO JAYLA HICKMAN, ALSO
03:14:06PM KNOWN AS DOECHII.
03:14:07PM A GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING RECIPIENT OF A GRAMMY THIS YEAR.
03:14:12PM AND IT IS TO BE OFF-SITE AT BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL AT A DATE
03:14:18PM SELECTED BY THE ARTIST WHEN SHE IS IN TOWN.
03:14:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO GET A GRAMMY, ARTIST HERE WILL BE
03:14:24PM AWESOME.
03:14:25PM WE HAVE A MOTION.
03:14:26PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:14:28PM SECOND FROM -- THIS IS TO GIVE THE -- PRESENT A COMBINATION
03:14:32PM TO THE GRAMMY WINNER DOECHII.
03:14:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS REALLY COOL.
03:14:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FANTASTIC.
03:14:38PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:14:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HER ACCEPTANCE SPEECH WAS JUST AMAZING.
03:14:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
03:14:43PM OPPOSED?
03:14:45PM YES, MA'AM, ANYTHING ELSE?
03:14:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, CHAIR.
03:14:47PM SULING RECEIVED MY MOTION FROM DARLENE.
03:14:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:14:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO JUST AMENDS THAT.
03:14:55PM DURING HER ACCEPTANCE SPEECH, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:14:58PM SHE COMPLIMENTED THE TALENT IN TAMPA, AND I KNOW BECAUSE SHE
03:15:04PM HARD ME SINGING AT THE CITY COUNCIL IN DAIS.
03:15:06PM ASKING FOR ME FOR THE RECORDING ARTISTS TO COME TO TAMPA TO
03:15:10PM IDENTIFY ME AS AN UP AND COMING TALENT.
03:15:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK SHE WAS TALKING OF YOUNGER
03:15:16PM PEOPLE, MR. CLENDENIN, BUT OKAY.
03:15:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEY, HEY, YOU CONFUSE ME TO MY FELLOW
03:15:21PM COUNCILMAN TO MY LEFT.
03:15:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REMEMBER WHEN DID YOU THAT.
03:15:24PM THE NEWSPAPER CALLED THE SONG OF THE MASS EXIT.
03:15:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:15:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
03:15:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:15:33PM HAND THE GAVEL OVER TO THE VICE CHAIR.
03:15:35PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
03:15:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN PRO TEM RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN
03:15:45PM MANISCALCO.
03:14:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APPOINTMENT PROCESS FOR THE EQUAL
03:15:47PM OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL.
03:15:48PM THERE WAS A MEMO THAT DID GO OUT TO COUNCIL.
03:15:52PM AN INTERVIEW DATE NEEDS TO BE SET BECAUSE 29 APPLICATIONS
03:15:56PM THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR SEVEN AVAILABLE POSITIONS.
03:15:58PM I AM NOT SURE IF WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED
03:16:01PM MEETING FOR THIS, TO ACCOMMODATE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
03:16:05PM AND I WANTED COUNCIL TO DISCUSS WHAT THEY THOUGHT.
03:16:10PM WE DO HAVE 29 APPLICATIONS FOR THE -- FOR THE EVO-AC BOARD
03:16:15PM FOR SEVEN POSITIONS.
03:16:16PM IS THAT SOMETHING THAT -- YES, MR. SHELBY.
03:16:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED,
03:16:23PM THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR CERTAIN CATEGORIES OF
03:16:30PM PEOPLE'S QUALIFICATIONS AND THE EXPERTISE THEY ARE SEEKING.
03:16:34PM THERE IS A SPREADSHEET THAT SHOW THAT CERTAIN CANDIDATE WILL
03:16:39PM QUALIFY BASED ON THEIR ACTION FOR CERTAIN SLOTS.
03:16:42PM NOT JUST SEVEN OUT OF 29.
03:16:44PM IT IS MORE -- A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
03:16:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A LEGAL WAY FOR US TO HAVE THAT VETTED FOR
03:16:50PM US PRIOR TO COMING TO US?
03:16:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE TO HAVE GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT,
03:16:56PM BECAUSE THE SUNSHINE LAW DOES -- THIS IS AN APPLICATION OF
03:17:05PM COUNCIL.
03:17:05PM I THINK IF SOMEBODY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD BE THE
03:17:08PM SUNSHINE THING.
03:17:08PM AND THE OTHER THING IS I SHOULD POINT OUT, COUNCIL, PER YOUR
03:17:12PM RULES, THE WAY IT IS PHRASED IS AT THE DATE SET FOR THE
03:17:17PM VOTE, APPLICANTS MAY ADDRESS COUNCIL FOR THREE MINUTES EACH.
03:17:20PM MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL MAY ADDRESS QUESTIONS TO THE
03:17:22PM APPLICANTS PRESENT.
03:17:23PM USUALLY YOU GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY.
03:17:25PM THERE IS NOW A PLACE ON THE AGENDA IN YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS
03:17:28PM FOR THAT.
03:17:29PM SO I -- I DON'T KNOW I HAVE NOT AGAIN, GIVEN IT MUCH THOUGHT
03:17:35PM FRANKLY IF THERE IS A WAY TO EXPEDITE IT.
03:17:37PM EVEN THE CONCEPT OF YOU DOING IT ON YOUR OWN AT HOME AND
03:17:41PM COMING IN AND THE CLERK JUST DOING A TALLY HAS BEEN FOUND BY
03:17:48PM THE COURT AS A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW.
03:17:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOUNDS LIKE AN EXTRA MEETING FOR ME.
03:17:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED PEOPLE TO VET
03:17:56PM THEM.
03:17:56PM BECAUSE IF THERE ARE SEVEN CATEGORIES.
03:17:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL DIVIDED UP.
03:18:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GENERALLY WITH A BOARD LIKE THIS.
03:18:04PM A COUPLE OF WHERE THE BULK WILL BE.
03:18:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STILL SOUND LIKE DISCUSSION.
03:18:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MEAN, WE CAN DO --
03:18:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OUR MEETINGS ARE SO PACKED.
03:18:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO COME
03:18:17PM BACK NEXT THURSDAY EVENING WITH SOME IDEAS AND THOUGHTS?
03:18:20PM I KNOW IT IS THE REZONING, BUT JUST AT THE END OF THE MEETING
03:18:23PM CAN YOU JUST GIVE US AN UPDATE OF WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE?
03:18:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SURE.
03:18:27PM I CERTAINLY WILL TAKE SUGGESTIONS FROM PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE
03:18:31PM --
03:18:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR ME TO COME BACK
03:18:36PM NEXT THURSDAY WITH JUST AN UPDATE HOW WE PROCEED WITH THESE
03:18:40PM BOARD APPOINTMENTS?
03:18:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARY IN A NIGHT
03:18:46PM MEETING.
03:18:47PM DO IT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
03:18:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THE DIRECTION THERE.
03:18:51PM I HAVE MORE.
03:18:52PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE
03:18:55PM IS RECEIVING APPLICATION FOR AN OPEN POSITION AS A CITY TAMPA
03:19:00PM REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
03:19:03PM ANYONE WISHES TO APPLY AT TAMPA.GOV OR CALL CLERK'S OFFICE
03:19:09PM 813-274-8397.
03:19:13PM AGAIN, IF YOU WISH TO BE THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE
03:19:17PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
03:19:19PM YOU CAN CALL OR GO TO OUR WEB SITE FROM CITY OF TAMPA, CALL
03:19:25PM 813-274-8397 WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
03:19:29PM THAT IS JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
03:19:31PM GO AHEAD?
03:19:35PM DISCUSS IT.
03:19:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND
03:19:41PM SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T -- I DON'T BELIEVE WE IMPLEMENTED WITH
03:19:43PM THE CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT WHEN COUNCIL'S RULES WERE REVISED,
03:19:47PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS THAT CURRENT AND UPCOMING
03:19:53PM BOARD VACANCIES SHOULD BE NOTED ON EACH AGENDA TO CITY
03:19:58PM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DISTRICT OFFICES CAN SEEK CANDIDATES FOR
03:20:01PM APPOINTMENT.
03:20:02PM SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BESIDE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT, YOU
03:20:06PM CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY.
03:20:08PM FRANKLY, THERE ARE VACANCIES -- UPCOMING VACANCIES.
03:20:13PM AND COUNCIL, YOU ARE BEST EQUIPPED TO FIND PEOPLE IN THE
03:20:17PM COMMUNITY WHO WILL BE WILLING TO SERVE.
03:20:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION FOR THAT.
03:20:20PM AS FAR AS INFORMATION TRANSFER.
03:20:24PM WHO IS -- IS IT THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT KEEPS THAT
03:20:27PM INFORMATION?
03:20:28PM WOULD THEY BE THE ONE TO NOTIFY THE CHAIR ENSURING IT IS ON
03:20:32PM THE CALENDAR?
03:20:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE THE DEPUTY CLERK IN FRONT OF US.
03:20:40PM >>CLERK: I WILL SAY A WORK IN PROGRESS.
03:20:43PM WE STARTED PUTTING OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN ON BASE AND
03:20:47PM A WORK IN PROGRESS.
03:20:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL START SEEING THAT.
03:20:50PM GOOD, GOOD.
03:20:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS MY MOTION.
03:20:53PM AND THIS IS IT.
03:20:54PM I RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM PRESIDENT WATER, HCC TO WRITE A
03:20:58PM LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE 18th ANNUAL NATIONAL BLACK, BROWN
03:21:02PM AND COLLEGE BOUND SUMMIT TAKING PLACE IN MARCH TO BE PLACED
03:21:05PM ON THEIR PROGRAM BOOK.
03:21:07PM A LETTER HANS BEEN PREPARED AND LOOK MAKE A MOTION TO SEND
03:21:13PM IT ON BEHALF OF MY OFFICE ON CITY COUNCIL.
03:21:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
03:21:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM THE MOTION MAKER.
03:21:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT YOU HAD A MOTION.
03:21:23PM A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
03:21:25PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:21:26PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:21:27PM OPPOSED?
03:21:29PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:21:29PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHIME IN SO WE GOT YOUR VOTE.
03:21:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
03:21:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, ANY NEW
03:21:37PM BUSINESS?
03:21:39PM ANYTHING SIR?
03:21:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
03:21:49PM I NEED TO WITH NEW ONE.
03:21:51PM THE APPRENTICE ORDINANCE AND CHANGES WE HAVE TO MAKE FROM 27
03:21:56PM TO APRIL 20.
03:21:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:22:00PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- NO, CARLSON.
03:22:03PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:22:03PM OPPOSED.
03:22:04PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:22:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, I WOULD -- WOULD LIKE TO
03:22:10PM THANK MALIK MOORE.
03:22:10PM HE WAS MY PERSON FOR THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
03:22:14PM HE WAS GIVEN A CAREER OPPORTUNITY THAT BROUGHT HIM OUT OF
03:22:19PM THE TAMPA BAY AREA WHICH NO LONGER MAKES IT QUALIFIED TO SIT
03:22:22PM AT THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO
03:22:26PM RECOMMEND KIMBERLY WILLIAMS FOR DISTRICT ONE.
03:22:30PM I WILL READ A BRIEF FOR THOSE OF HOW DON'T KNOW.
03:22:32PM SHE IS -- I GOT THE WRONG ONE UP HERE.
03:22:36PM SHE IS WITH FEEDING TAMPA BAY.
03:22:39PM AND I HAD IT HERE.
03:22:42PM WELL, SHE IS A VERY GOOD QUALIFIED CANDIDATE FROM FEEDING
03:22:46PM TAMPA BAY.
03:22:47PM AND HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE AND I THINK A GREAT CONTRIBUTION
03:22:51PM TO THE COMMITTEE.
03:22:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
03:22:53PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:22:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:22:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:22:57PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED.
03:22:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AYE.
03:23:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:23:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, IN LIGHT OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION ABOUT
03:23:05PM STORMWATER AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE ARE DOING, I MOVE
03:23:09PM TO MAKE THE MARCH 27, 2025 QUARTERLY STORM REPORT -- WELL,
03:23:14PM STORMWATER REPORT AN IN-PERSON REPORT INSTEAD OF A WRITTEN
03:23:19PM REPORT.
03:23:19PM SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN REALLY START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS
03:23:22PM HAPPENED TO THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PUT INTO THE
03:23:24PM SYSTEM.
03:23:24PM IT IS A WRITTEN REPORT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE
03:23:28PM KNOW ABOUT IT.
03:23:29PM BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT IDEA TO HAVE US COME TO IN.
03:23:32PM HOWEVER, I THINK IT MIGHT REQUIRE --
03:23:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAYS SIX.
03:23:42PM MARCH 27 HAS SIX.
03:23:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WILL BE THE SEVENTH.
03:23:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE NEED TO OVERRIDE THE RULE?
03:23:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, WE'RE ALLOWED SEVEN.
03:23:52PM I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
03:23:53PM I AM ALWAYS FIFTH OR SIXTH AND NEVER KNOW IF I WILL GET THE
03:23:56PM DATE OR NOT.
03:23:57PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
03:23:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:23:59PM SECONDED FROM CARLSON.
03:24:01PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:24:01PM OPPOSED?
03:24:03PM ANYTHING ELSE.
03:24:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THANK YOU.
03:24:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE SEVERAL.
03:24:06PM SORRY.
03:24:07PM THERE IS A RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA WHO IS TURNING 100, SO I
03:24:11PM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO AN OFF-SITE COMMENDATION
03:24:17PM TO CELEBRATE HER 100TH BIRTHDAY.
03:24:19PM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:24:20PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:24:20PM ANYTHING ELSE.
03:24:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND ONE IS -- TELL ME IF YOU GUY DID
03:24:25PM THIS, TOM PALERMO'S SON JUST GOT HIS EAGLE SCOUT.
03:24:31PM WE USED TO DO IT HERE AND --
03:24:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALWAYS BROUGHT IT TO THE CEREMONY.
03:24:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, DID YOU SPEAK TO JUDGE PALERMO ABOUT
03:24:41PM THAT?
03:24:41PM I DID YESTERDAY.
03:24:41PM HE HAD ASKED ME.
03:24:42PM BUT IF YOU WANT -- IT IS ALL GOOD.
03:24:45PM I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, HOW ABOUT HAVE IT, AND I WILL JUST
03:24:50PM TELL HIM.
03:24:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS GOING TO MIND SIDE HIM.
03:24:54PM HE DOESN'T LIKE RECEIVING ANYTHING.
03:24:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ESPECIALLY LIKES IT.
03:24:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU LIKE BLIND-SIDING PEOPLE.
03:25:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO I WILL -- MOTION TO GIVE AN OFF-SITE
03:25:04PM COMMENDATION TO PETER PALERMO FOR BECOMING A EAGLE SCOUT.
03:25:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
03:25:11PM CLENDENIN.
03:25:11PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:25:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, IF YOU WANT WE CAN
03:25:17PM SCHEDULE THROUGH OUR AIDES.
03:25:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: COMMENDATION FOR PETER.
03:25:24PM SMILEY FACE.
03:25:25PM THANK YOU.
03:25:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN WE CHANGED RULES FOR, PRESENTATION
03:25:33PM -- STRENGTHEN THE RULES OF PRESENTATION FROM STAFF THAT
03:25:37PM EVERYBODY HAS TO SUBMIT BY FRIDAY AT 5 O'CLOCK.
03:25:40PM CAME UP WITH A NEW CATEGORY CALLED VIRTUAL REPORTS AND
03:25:43PM POWERPOINTS AND PRESENTATION LIKE WE SAW TODAY.
03:25:46PM I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE AND -- AND I WOULD LIKE
03:25:50PM TO MAKE A MOTION TO MODIFY CITY COUNCIL RULES TO PROHIBIT
03:25:53PM ANY PRESENTATION OR DOCUMENTS FROM BEING PRESENTED AT CITY
03:25:57PM COUNCIL MEETINGS IF THEY WERE NOT FILED IN ON BASE IF NOT
03:26:01PM FILED 5 P.M. THE FRIDAY BEFORE.
03:26:03PM THE IDEA IS IF THEY HAVEN'T PUT THEM IN, THEN -- BY THE
03:26:07PM OTHER RULES, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE IT.
03:26:09PM AND INSTEAD OF BLIND SIDING US WITH DOCUMENTS WE NEED TO SEE
03:26:13PM IN ADVANCE OR MORE IMPORTANTLY THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO SEE IN
03:26:16PM ADVANCE.
03:26:16PM THEY SHOULD CONTINUE IT AND GIVE US THE DOCUMENTS IN
03:26:20PM ADVANCE.
03:26:20PM IF THEY DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT TO
03:26:23PM US.
03:26:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
03:26:26PM I SEE A MICROPHONE ON.
03:26:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST MADE A MOTION LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK
03:26:30PM BEFORE ABOUT THE STORMWATER CLEANUP.
03:26:33PM AND I SPECIFICALLY DIDN'T WANT IT IN ON BASE.
03:26:37PM BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN ON BASE TWO WEEKS BEFORE.
03:26:40PM SO I SPECIFICALLY WANTED THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION AND
03:26:45PM IN MY MOTION, I ASKED THEM TO ADD IT TO ON BASE AFTER.
03:26:49PM I THINK ONE WAY WE COULD DO THAT IS -- YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF
03:26:53PM SAW TODAY HOW I HAD WRITTEN A MOTION THAT SAID A FIVE-MINUTE
03:26:58PM PRESENTATION.
03:26:58PM AND INSTEAD IT WAS A WRITTEN REPORT.
03:26:59PM AND IT BE -- BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE MOTION ANYWAY.
03:27:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD THINK -- THE THING ABOUT STORMWATER
03:27:08PM YOU CAN SAY THIS IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, BUT IN
03:27:13PM GENERAL, THEY ARE GOING AROUND OUR RULE SAYING WE ARE
03:27:15PM PROVIDING VERBAL REPORTS AND THEY GIVE WRITTEN REPORTS.
03:27:19PM ALL I AM SAYING IF YOU HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT, YOU HAVE TO --
03:27:21PM IF YOU HAVE ANY WRITING -- ANYTHING IN WRITING GIVE IT TO US
03:27:26PM BY 5:00.
03:27:27PM MORE IMPORTANT HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT IT.
03:27:29PM I HAVE A LOT OF REPORTS FROM THE COMMUNITIES WHY THEY ARE
03:27:32PM NOT GIVING US DOCUMENTS IN ADVANCE.
03:27:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOUR HAND WAS
03:27:40PM UP.
03:27:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON A
03:27:43PM QUESTION.
03:27:44PM IS IT ABLE TO BE ON BASE AND MAY BE UPDATED IF NECESSARY.
03:27:47PM I THINK IF -- IF THERE IS STILL MORE INFORMATION TO ADD.
03:27:50PM I AM STILL WONDER GOING THERE IS AN EDIT ALLOWED.
03:27:53PM IF THEY GET ANY ON TIME AND IF THERE IS AN UPDATE.
03:27:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS IT TWO WEEKS.
03:28:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: FINE IF THEY DO IT IN GOOD FAITH BUT
03:28:04PM ONE-PAGE HOLDER AND REPLACE IT WITH 30 PLACES.
03:28:07PM IF THEY TWEAK SOME OF IT -- THE WHOLE THING HERE, IF YOU ARE
03:28:10PM NOT READY IN TIME.
03:28:11PM YOU NEED MORE TIME.
03:28:12PM JUST CONTINUE IT.
03:28:13PM WE AND THE PUBLIC NEED TIME TO REVIEW IT.
03:28:16PM WHAT HAPPENS TO ME AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, I END UP
03:28:19PM READING THE AGENDA ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND CHANGES TO SO MUCH
03:28:22PM WITH THE DOCUMENTS THAT POP UP.
03:28:24PM SOMETIMES THE DOCUMENTS DON'T COME IN UNTIL WE GET THE
03:28:28PM PRESENTATION AND WE ARE BLIND-SIDED AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
03:28:30PM WANT TO BE BLIND SIDED EVEN IF THEY WANT TO BLIND SIDE US.
03:28:34PM A SECOND ON THIS OR NOT?
03:28:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE.
03:28:38PM MAYBE.
03:28:38PM BECAUSE I -- I SHARE THE SAME CONCERN.
03:28:40PM THE SAME THING.
03:28:41PM I TRY TO READ EVERYTHING.
03:28:43PM AND IT IS DIFFICULT AND FRUSTRATING TO GET STUFF AT THE LAST
03:28:45PM MINUTE WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE WELL PREPARED AND YOU ARE
03:28:48PM NOT WELL PREPARED BECAUSE STUFF COMES AT THE LAST MINUTE.
03:28:51PM I AM SURE WE WILL HAVE SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE SOME
03:28:54PM OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL BRING UP.
03:28:55PM I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ABSOLUTES.
03:28:57PM SO I THINK -- I THINK THE RULE IS THE RULE, BUT I THINK
03:29:02PM THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION WHETHER
03:29:04PM TO ACCEPT IT IN REALTIME SO WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR,
03:29:08PM LIKE, THE EXAMPLE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
03:29:12PM WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
03:29:13PM LIKE ADDING.
03:29:14PM SO MANY STAFF REPORTS.
03:29:16PM AND WE EXEMPT OUR RULE.
03:29:20PM IF SOMETHING THAT IS TIMELY AND CRITICAL.
03:29:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: ADD IN SPECIFICALLY WEIGHED BY COUNCIL.
03:29:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
03:29:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
03:29:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE KEY IS --
03:29:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE A RULE?
03:29:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A RULE ABOUT WRITTEN REPORTS.
03:29:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: WRITTEN REPORTS HAVE BE TO IN BY 5:00 AND
03:29:45PM AUTOMATICALLY CONTINUE IT.
03:29:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TWO FRIDAYS.
03:29:51PM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
03:29:54PM AND WE NEED TO.
03:29:59PM GENERAL POLICY.
03:30:00PM GENERAL POLICIES RULE 7-A, ALL STAFF REPORTS, RESOLUTIONS,
03:30:05PM ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS INTENDED FOR THE CONSIDERATION
03:30:09PM OF CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE FILED WITH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY
03:30:12PM CLERK ON OR BEFORE 2 P.M. ON THE THURSDAY PRIOR TO THE
03:30:16PM MEETING OF COUNCIL.
03:30:17PM CITY CLERK, IN TURN, WILL PROVIDE COMMUNICATIONS AND
03:30:20PM ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS TO THE MOST APPROPRIATE
03:30:23PM PLACEMENT WITHIN THE AGENDA TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE
03:30:26PM REQUEST MADE OF THE TIME OF PLACEMENT ONLY THE AGENDA.
03:30:28PM ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS RELATED TO FEES ARE TO BE PLACED
03:30:32PM UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
03:30:33PM THE KEY IS -- AND COUNCIL, I -- IS GIVING THE ADMINISTRATION
03:30:38PM SUFFICIENT LEAD TIME TO DO THIS.
03:30:40PM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME THINGS ARE VERY LABOR INTENSIVE,
03:30:43PM BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT SIRE -- ON BASE NOW IS A PROCESS.
03:30:49PM AS YOU KNOW, IT IS A MINIMAL OF TWO WEEKS AND I WILL TELL
03:30:57PM YOU -- I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT THE
03:30:59PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS A CITY COUNCIL MASTER MOTION LIST WHICH
03:31:02PM IS QUITE AN UNDERTAKING TO MANUALLY UPDATE THAT.
03:31:07PM QUITE FRANKLY IT IS -- IT IS JUST TO KEEP TRACK OF WHAT IS
03:31:13PM BEING AGAIN RATED BY CITY COUNCIL MOTION IS IN ITSELF A
03:31:18PM PROCESS.
03:31:19PM TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND ALLOW LEAD TIME.
03:31:21PM CERTAINLY COUNCIL, I ALWAYS SAY TO CITY COUNCIL, YOU CAN
03:31:25PM ONLY MAKE AS GOOD A DECISION AS THE INFORMATION THAT IS
03:31:27PM PROVIDED TO YOU.
03:31:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID
03:31:32PM THAT WILL CONTRADICT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID WITH
03:31:37PM GIVING COUNCIL THE ABILITY --
03:31:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I EXPECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT APPLIES
03:31:43PM TO WORKSHOPS.
03:31:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GENERAL UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE DOCUMENTS
03:31:47PM IN A TIMELY FASHION AND REVIEWED IN A TIMELY WAY SHELBY SHE
03:31:55PM WILL AT WHAT POINT DO YOU MAKE THE EXCEPTION.
03:31:57PM YOU CAN'T MAKE THE EXCEPTION UNTIL THE DAY OF.
03:31:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S SAY A HURRICANE THAT CAME THROUGH
03:32:02PM AND DOCUMENTS AND PRESENTATION.
03:32:03PM YOU EXEMPT THAT FROM THE RULE.
03:32:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IF YOU ARE PRESENTED WITH SOMETHING
03:32:08PM THAT THIS INFORMATION JUST UPON THEM AND YOU THEY JUST
03:32:11PM BROUGHT IT IN.
03:32:12PM CLENDENIN CLENDENIN TAKES FOUR VOTES?
03:32:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKES FOUR VOTES.
03:32:16PM UNDERSTOOD.
03:32:17PM THANK YOU.
03:32:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:32:20PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:32:22PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:32:23PM OPPOSED?
03:32:24PM YES, SIR.
03:32:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHE SAID YES.
03:32:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO I -- I PUT THE -- THE APPLICATION
03:32:35PM DOCUMENTATION IN FOR BRITTANY LISI AS THE -- AS MY APPOINTEE
03:32:40PM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL CITIZEN ADVISORY BUDGET AND FINANCE
03:32:43PM COMMITTEE.
03:32:44PM AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO FORMALLY ADOPT A
03:32:48PM RESOLUTION APPROVING HER.
03:32:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:32:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:32:57PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:32:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AYE.
03:33:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:33:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO I SENT IN ADVANCE.
03:33:03PM CHANGED ONE OF THEM.
03:33:04PM THE ONE ABOUT -- I AM CONCERNED OF THE DEBT OF THE CITY.
03:33:07PM AND DENNIS IS GOING TO PRESENT AGAIN SOON ON THE BUDGET.
03:33:14PM THE DEBT CAPACITY OF THE CITY.
03:33:16PM BUT I TALKED TO SOME STILL AND COUNTIES OUTSIDE.
03:33:18PM AND -- AND THEY ARE APPALLED AT THE -- AT THE AMOUNT OF DEBT
03:33:23PM THAT WE HAVE.
03:33:23PM EVEN THE ENTERPRISE DEBT.
03:33:25PM AND SO MY FIRST MOTION WAS JUST TO ASK TO PUT A PROHIBITION
03:33:30PM TONIGHT.
03:33:30PM BUT I TALKED TO SOMEBODY FROM THE BUDGET AND FINANCE
03:33:33PM COMMITTEE.
03:33:33PM AND THEY SAID WHY DON'T YOU KICK IT TO US.
03:33:36PM INSTEAD TRYING TO GET YOU ALL TO VOTE ON SOMETHING TODAY.
03:33:40PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
03:33:42PM MOTION TO ASK THE BUDGET AND FINANCIALS COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS
03:33:44PM THE POSSIILITY OF CREATING A CAP OR MORATORIUM ON NEW CITY
03:33:48PM DEPARTMENT AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
03:33:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A DATE WHERE YOU WANT IT TO BE REPORTED
03:33:53PM BACK?
03:33:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE NEED A DATE.
03:33:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR MOTION APRIL 3.
03:33:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DATE?
03:34:01PM NEXT MEETING?
03:34:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NEXT MEETING IS --
03:34:04PM >>CLERK: FRIDAY.
03:34:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: APRIL 3.
03:34:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:34:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THE ONLY WAY I WOULD SUPPORT THIS MOTION
03:34:16PM IS IF -- AS IF STORMWATER WASN'T INCLUDED BECAUSE WE HAVE A
03:34:22PM LOT MONEY.
03:34:22PM A LOT WE HAVE TO BE DOING WITH STORMWATER.
03:34:25PM AND IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
03:34:26PM AND I JUST -- THAT IS MY ONLY HANG-UP.
03:34:29PM I COMPLETELY AGREE THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF WE DON'T NEED TO
03:34:33PM BE SPENDING MONEY ON.
03:34:34PM BUT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO DO MAJOR WORK IN STORMWATER AND
03:34:37PM I DON'T WANT TO HINDER US IN THAT.
03:34:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:34:43PM YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP?
03:34:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH, I THINK MY -- MY BIGGEST CONCERN
03:34:48PM WITH THIS, IS THAT THE CITY'S DEBT ISSUANCE AND OUR RATING
03:34:54PM AS A FISCAL RESPONSIBLE CITY IS IN CONFLICT WITH ONE
03:35:01PM ANOTHER.
03:35:01PM WHEN COUNCILMAN CARSON SAID HE TALKED TO OTHERS AND THEY ARE
03:35:06PM APPALLED.
03:35:06PM I WANT TO KNOW WHO HE IS TALKING ABOUT.
03:35:08PM I DON'T WANT THAT COMMENT TO JUST FLY OVER US.
03:35:11PM AND BE OKAY.
03:35:12PM BECAUSE IT IS JUST NOT OKAY IN LIGHT OF OUR RATINGS AS WE
03:35:18PM STAND AS A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE CITY.
03:35:20PM EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE IS A COUNCIL MEMBER
03:35:25PM OR SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS DON'T LIKE THE SET THAT IS BEING
03:35:28PM ISSUED FOR THE PROBABLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE ONE THEY
03:35:31PM SUPPORT OR CAN GET BEHIND BALLS THEY SEE IT AS A WASTE OF
03:35:34PM MONEY OR WANT TO CALL IT VANITY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
03:35:37PM I JUST DON'T LIKE THAT.
03:35:39PM BECAUSE WE HAVE PROVEN TO BE A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE CITY
03:35:43PM WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BUDGET.
03:35:44PM AND IT HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED SEVERAL TIMES SINCE I HAVE BEEN
03:35:47PM ON COUNCIL FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS.
03:35:49PM AWARD-WINNING, IN FACT, AND ACKNOWLEDGED.
03:35:52PM DON'T JUST THROW IT OUT THERE THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE APPALLED
03:35:56PM AS IF WE ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
03:35:57PM I DON'T LIKE THAT AND I WON'T SUPPORT IT IF IT IS COMING
03:36:04PM FROM THAT APPROACH.
03:36:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:36:07PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:36:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK I SHARE THE SAME CONCERN THAT
03:36:11PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON HAS HIGHLIGHTED.
03:36:14PM I AM RELATIVELY FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE WITH THE BOND RACE
03:36:18PM RIGHT NOW, I THINK SOMETIMES WE ARE A LITTLE TOO WILLY
03:36:23PM NILLY.
03:36:23PM MY LITMUS TEST IS RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT.
03:36:26PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND I ON SOME PROJECTS AND WE FELT
03:36:30PM THAT THE PROJECT WOULD CAUSE A POSITIVE CASH FLOW TO THE
03:36:33PM CITY.
03:36:33PM AND IN THE ULTIMATE TERM, AGAIN, IT IS AN INVESTMENT.
03:36:38PM SOME THINGS ARE NOT AN INVESTMENT AND A HOLE WE SHOULD DO
03:36:42PM PAY AS WE GO IN A SHORTER TERM FASHION THAN MAYBE WE PLAN
03:36:47PM FOR LONG-TERM.
03:36:48PM THAT BEING SAID, I JUST LIKE I SAID IN THE PREVIOUS, I AM
03:36:51PM NOT GREAT ON ABSOLUTES.
03:36:53PM BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO -- WHEN WE ISSUE THESE
03:36:56PM -- THESE DEBTS AS COUNCILMAN HURTAK SAID ABOUT STORMWATER
03:37:01PM AND OTHER CRITICAL THINGS AND THE UNKNOWNS WHAT WILL COME UP
03:37:04PM IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS OF OUR TERM.
03:37:06PM I DON'T -- WE ALREADY HAVE THAT CONTROL.
03:37:09PM WE JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRUST OURSELVES TO SAY NO WHEN WE
03:37:14PM SAY NO.
03:37:14PM IT TAKES FOUR VOTES TO SAY NO.
03:37:16PM I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OF WHAT -- WHEN WE
03:37:20PM AS A CITY AND AS A -- AS CUSTODIANS OF TAXPAYER MONEY, WHEN
03:37:26PM WE ARE SPENDING MONEY, IS IT AN INVESTMENT?
03:37:30PM IS THE MONEY GOING TO FLOW BACK INTO THE COFFERS.
03:37:34PM WORTHY OF AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID OUR WASTEWATER AND
03:37:39PM STORMWATER AND THE ENTERPRISE AND KNOW YOU HIGHLIGHTED
03:37:42PM ENTERPRISE FUND AND THOSE ARE INVESTMENTS TOO IN THE FUTURE
03:37:44PM AND HARDENING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:37:46PM THAT IS KIND OF WHAT THE CITY WANTS US TO DO.
03:37:48PM I THINK -- AT LEAST MY ASSESSMENT OF THE CITIZENS OF THE
03:37:53PM CITY OF TAMPA.
03:37:53PM THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE CLEAN WATER AND WE ALL --
03:37:56PM AT LEAST FOUR OF US UP HERE SHARE THAT WE WANT CLEAN WATER.
03:37:59PM WE WANT THE POOP WATER TO LEAVE OUR HOUSES.
03:38:02PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ROADS AROUND POTHOLES ARE
03:38:06PM FILLED.
03:38:06PM THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
03:38:07PM DON'T WANT TO UNNECESSARILY BURDEN THE CITY WITH DEBT, BUT I
03:38:12PM WANT TO SMARTLY USE DEBT WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE.
03:38:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBERS -- DO YOU WANT TO GO.
03:38:19PM OR VIERA.
03:38:20PM VIERA --
03:38:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT WASN'T SECONDED ANYWAY, WAS IT.
03:38:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL RESPECTFULLY VOTE NO BUT I WILL SECOND
03:38:35PM IT TO SPEAK OF IT.
03:38:37PM FROM EVERYTHING I HEAR.
03:38:39PM I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO MR. ROGERO ON THIS.
03:38:43PM WE GOTTEN REPORTS BEFORE.
03:38:45PM DOING OKAY IN THAT REGARD.
03:38:47PM WE ARE TAKING DIET PILLS AND WEARING A MEDIUM, YOU KNOW WHAT
03:38:51PM I MEAN.
03:38:52PM I DON'T SEE IT.
03:38:53PM HEARD SOMEBODY MENTION FIRE STATIONS, PUBLIC SAFETY.
03:38:56PM I AM NOT SURE IF THERE IS A PUBLIC SAFETY CARVE OUT THAT --
03:39:00PM THAT -- AT THE VERY LEAST.
03:39:02PM I STILL WILL OPPOSE IT.
03:39:04PM BUT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
03:39:07PM STORMWATER AND A LOT OF NEEDS.
03:39:08PM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SUCH A MASSIVE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW SUCH
03:39:11PM THAT WE NEED SUCH A TIGHT RESTRICTIVE STRAIGHT JACKET
03:39:18PM FISCALLY.
03:39:18PM I UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE, BUT THERE IS A TIME AND A PLACE
03:39:22PM FOR THIS.
03:39:22PM AND MAKE WE HAD INSTANCES IN RETROSPECT.
03:39:27PM HEY, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE FOR THAT AND SO FORTH.
03:39:30PM BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY SORT OF PRICE IS RIGHT NOW
03:39:34PM THAT WILL NECESSITATE A RESTRICTIVE STRAIGHTJACKET.
03:39:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I?
03:39:40PM SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL FAIL ANYWAY, BUT, NUMBER ONE, I AM NOT
03:39:45PM -- THE MOTION THAT I AM MAKING NOW IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE
03:39:48PM I SENT AROUND.
03:39:49PM I AM NOT ASKING TO PUT IN THIS PLACE.
03:39:51PM I AM ASKING TO HAVE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT IT AND --
03:39:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE THAT MOTION -- A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
03:39:59PM TO HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE JUST LOOK AT
03:40:03PM DEBT IN GENERAL AND NOT WITH A PREDETERMINED OUGHT COME.
03:40:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE IS THE THING.
03:40:08PM WE WILL HAVE A DEBT REPORT COMING UP SOON.
03:40:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO GO FURTHER.
03:40:12PM THE ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO GET A TAX INCREASE AND IT
03:40:16PM FAILED.
03:40:16PM A LOT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE CONCERNED THAT THE
03:40:19PM ADMINISTRATION WILL TRY TO GET ANOTHER TAX INCREASE.
03:40:21PM AT SOME POINT BY ADDING DEBT AND THE DEBT SERVICE WITH
03:40:25PM INTEREST RATES GOING UP, WE WILL FORCE OURSELVES TO KEEP THOSE
03:40:28PM BOND RATINGS THE WAY THEY ARE.
03:40:30PM FORCE OURSELVES TO GET NEW REVENUE OR RAISING FEES.
03:40:34PM BECOME ALL LOOK AT THAT, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS ON A
03:40:36PM CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
03:40:38PM THEY SAY OH, WELL TO UPGRADE YOUR PARK.
03:40:41PM YOUR PARK YOU NEED THIS.
03:40:42PM UPGRADE THE FIRE TRUCKS.
03:40:43PM WE NEED IT.
03:40:45PM AND TO UPGRADE THIS AND THAT.
03:40:47PM AND WE GET PICKED OFF ONE BY ONE.
03:40:50PM WE NEED TO PASS A BLANKET STATEMENT TO SAY THAT DEBT IS NOT
03:40:55PM -- IS NOT A BANK ACCOUNT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.
03:40:57PM THEY CAN'T JUST ADDING DEBT FOR THINGS THAT ARE NICE TO
03:41:00PM HAVE.
03:41:00PM THEY HAVE TO STOP THAT.
03:41:02PM AND -- AND I -- AT SOME POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
03:41:06PM STATEMENT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET THING WE WILL NOT AGREE TO NEW
03:41:09PM TAXES.
03:41:09PM AS TO THE POINT ABOUT -- WELL, GIVE US EXAMPLES.
03:41:13PM TELL US WHATEVER CITIES AND COUNTIES KNOW.
03:41:16PM I MET WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE FIRST THING REACT TO
03:41:19PM EVERYBODY.
03:41:19PM GIVE US EXAMPLES.
03:41:21PM I HAVE GIVEN THEM EXAMPLES ON ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
03:41:24PM LAST WEEK WE HAD TWO FORMER EMPLOYEES GET UP AND TEARFULLY
03:41:28PM TELL US THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON
03:41:30PM FROM THE ADMINISTRATION REACHED OUT TO ME AFTERWARDS.
03:41:33PM MANY FORMER AND CURRENT EMPLOYEES DID.
03:41:35PM AND STILL THE MAYOR SENT E-MAILS TO THE PUBLIC SAYING IT IS
03:41:40PM CITY COUNCIL'S FAULT.
03:41:41PM IT IS RIDICULOUS THAT THIS STUFF HAPPENS.
03:41:43PM SO WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO IS TRY TO PUT SOME REINS ON -- WE
03:41:49PM HAVE A MAYOR THAT IS LEAVING IN TWO YEARS.
03:41:52PM WE HAVE TO NOT -- JUST BECAUSE WE ARE AT 4% DOWN UNDER
03:41:56PM DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO LEAVE WITH 100.
03:41:58PM BECAUSE IT WILL TAX EVERYBODY IN THE FUTURE.
03:42:00PM NOT A FAIR THING TO DO.
03:42:01PM THE DEBT COVERAGE.
03:42:03PM AND WITH THE INTEREST HIGH, THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST WE ARE
03:42:05PM PAY SOMETHING UNBELIEVABLE AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COVER IT.
03:42:08PM BUT THINK OF ALL THE THINGS WE ARE NOT ABLE TO PLAY.
03:42:11PM $65 MILLION IN FROM FOR A $65 MILLION PROJECT.
03:42:15PM $65 MILLION YOU ARE NOT SPENDING ON STORMWATER.
03:42:19PM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY REAL FAST IS COUNCILWOMAN
03:42:23PM HENDERSON, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION THIS OFF-LINE, BUT THE
03:42:26PM IDEA OF AWARD-WINNING.
03:42:27PM MY PHILOSOPHY, MY COMPANY IN THE LAST 30 YEARS, WE HAVE NOT
03:42:31PM APPLIED TO A SINGLE AWARD.
03:42:33PM I DON'T VALUES AWARDS AT ALL.
03:42:37PM BOND RATINGS.
03:42:38PM YES, THAT IS NOT AN AWARD, PROFESSIONALS LOOKING AT OUR
03:42:42PM FINANCIALS.
03:42:42PM TO SAY WE WON AN AWARD.
03:42:46PM THINGS YOU SEND IN AN APPLICATION AND EVERYBODY WINS
03:42:50PM EVENTUALLY.
03:42:51PM THOSE THINGS INTEREST LIKE -- THE AWARD FOR PARTICIPATION
03:42:53PM FOR WHATEVER.
03:42:54PM YOU MAY DO SOMETHING GREAT, BUT THE REAL AWARD IS THAT THE
03:42:59PM CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY LIKE IT.
03:43:00PM IF THEY THINK IT IS AS GOOD DECISION AND ENJOY PARTICIPATING
03:43:03PM IN IT.
03:43:03PM WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN -- HAVE GOTTEN AWARDS
03:43:08PM THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T LIKE.
03:43:11PM THEY DON'T APPRECIATE THE DESIGNS.
03:43:12PM JUST BECAUSE YOU GET AN AWARD FROM SOMEBODY OUTSIDE DOESN'T
03:43:15PM MEAN THAT THE PUBLIC THINKS IT IS A GOOD INVESTMENT.
03:43:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:43:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LIKE THE MICHELIN STAR.
03:43:20PM YOU GOT TO PAY TO GET IT.
03:43:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OOH.
03:43:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ST. PETE SAID THEY WILL PAY IN SO THEY
03:43:27PM CAN GET IT.
03:43:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MICHELIN, NOT THE OFFICIAL OPINION OF THE
03:43:32PM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
03:43:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS FOR ME ANYWAY.
03:43:34PM [LAUGHTER]
03:43:36PM I THINK THIS IS A GOOD BEGINNING BECAUSE A CONVERSATION OF
03:43:38PM DEBT AND OUR DEBT RATIO ON FEBRUARY 27.
03:43:41PM THAT IS COMING FORWARD.
03:43:43PM I THINK IT IS A VERY GOOD BEGINNING TO THAT.
03:43:45PM BUT WE ARE -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION.
03:43:51PM MY BIGGEST CONCERN AND I WILL SAY IT NOW BECAUSE I WAS
03:43:55PM ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT IT YESTERDAY.
03:43:56PM WE ARE GOING TO SEE A DECREASE IN FUNDS THAT COME INTO
03:43:59PM THIS CITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF HOUSES
03:44:02PM THAT ARE UNLIVABLE, THEREFORE UNTAXABLE.
03:44:04PM SO IT WILL A -- IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
03:44:07PM YOU ARE CORRECT.
03:44:08PM BUT HERE IS OUR PROBLEM.
03:44:09PM WE, AS A COUNCIL, ARE VERY GOOD AT SAYING NO.
03:44:14PM AND WE HAVE TO GET BETTER.
03:44:18PM WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COME.
03:44:20PM BUT EVERYBODY SAYS THEY PUT THE TIME, EFFORT AND THE MONEY.
03:44:23PM WE CAN'T NOT TO DO IT.
03:44:25PM I AM AFRAID IN WE WILL GET TO A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE AND
03:44:29PM NOT HAVE AN OPTION.
03:44:30PM I THINK IT IS A WORTHY DISCUSSION TO HAVE ON FEBRUARY 27,
03:44:33PM BUT I AM HAPPY TO BE BRING SOME PRELIMINARY THOUGHTS IF YOU
03:44:39PM HAVE THEM ON PERCENTAGES THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE DECREASES
03:44:44PM IN WHEN IT COMES TO OUR REVENUE.
03:44:46PM I HEARD BETWEEN 10% TO 20%.
03:44:48PM MY INTEREST GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE TO LOOK AT WHAT
03:44:53PM IT WILL BE FOR 25% LESS WHICH IS MORE IN LINE WHAT I AM
03:44:57PM EXPECTING.
03:44:57PM ADDITIONALLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE FEDERAL
03:45:00PM GOVERNMENT AS MR. ROGERO SAID EARLIER TODAY.
03:45:03PM IF ANYTHING, WE ARE NEED TO BE MUCH MORE CAUTIOUS AND
03:45:07PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE -- SO MANY MORE ISSUE
03:45:12PM THAN WE HAD THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
03:45:13PM HELENA, MILTON JUST BROUGHT US A TON OF PROBLEMS THAT WE
03:45:20PM HAVE NO OPTION TO FIX.
03:45:22PM WE HAVE OPTIONS ON OTHER THINGS.
03:45:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOUNDS LIKE A FRIENDLY MOTION.
03:45:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:45:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM GOING TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND TALK
03:45:31PM ABOUT IT FEBRUARY 27.
03:45:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:45:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL CLOSE BY SAYING THIS.
03:45:36PM I DID SAY "AWARD."
03:45:38PM BUT I MEANT OUR FINANCIAL RATINGS.
03:45:40PM STANDINGS OF OUR FINANCIAL RATINGS.
03:45:43PM NOT NECESSARILY REWARDS.
03:45:45PM A HEALTHY BENEFITS AND LOOKING AT THE MAYOR'S STRATEGIC
03:45:51PM INITIATIVES AND HAVE AT THAT HEALTHY BALANCE OF DEBT.
03:45:53PM YES, WE DO HAVE PROBLEM AND CHALLENGES WE HAVE TO ADDRESS,
03:45:56PM BUT WE STILL HAVE TO GROW AS A CITY AND IMPROVE ONE OF THE
03:46:03PM THINGS I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH IS THIS.
03:46:05PM THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS HISTORICALLY THAT HAVE BEEN IGNORED
03:46:09PM IN ANY NORTH COMMUNITIES.
03:46:10PM NOW THAT WE ARE GETTING THAT YOU ARE JUST TO DO LIKE THE
03:46:14PM RIVERWALK, LIKE BEAUTIFUL FAIR OAKS PARK, WHATEVER, IF YOU
03:46:17PM HAVE TO REALLY DO A DEEP, DEEP, DEEP DIVE INTO -- YOU KNOW,
03:46:21PM WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS ARE CONSIDERED WORTHY AND VALUABLE,
03:46:26PM YOU -- YOU ALSO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OUR HISTORY INTO
03:46:29PM -- INTO CONSIDERATION.
03:46:31PM AND SO THERE IS A PRICE TO PAY IN -- IN MANY REGARDS IN SOME
03:46:36PM ASPECTS.
03:46:36PM AND I SAID THIS PUBLICLY TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE.
03:46:39PM IF I CAN PICK UP THE 4.5-MILE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND MOVE IT
03:46:44PM TO ROME YARD, I WOULD.
03:46:46PM BECAUSE YOU HIS FOR CLEAR HAVE TAKEN GOOD CARE OF BAYSHORE
03:46:50PM BOULEVARD.
03:46:51PM MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER
03:46:53PM MONIES WHERE PLENTY OF CITIZENS DID NOT BENEFIT FROM THAT.
03:46:57PM I AM NOT SAYING THAT DEBT ISSUE ANNALS HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW,
03:47:02PM A ONE-WAY PATH IN TERMS OF SOLVING PROBLEMS.
03:47:05PM IT HAS TO BE A HEALTHY BALANCE BECAUSE ONE DAY NOT JUST THIS
03:47:08PM MAYOR.
03:47:09PM BUT IT IS IT IS THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO LEAD OUR CITY
03:47:12PM THAT DOESN'T JUST LEAD, BUT WILL CAMPAIGN ON JUST THE
03:47:17PM PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.
03:47:17PM BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT WE ARE AN AMAZING CITY THAT MUCH
03:47:20PM ATTRACTS A HUGE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME
03:47:25PM HERE TO, YOU KNOW, SPEND TIME IN OUR TOWN.
03:47:28PM SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO.
03:47:31PM AND THE DEBT ISSUANCE IS A GREAT HEALTHY CONVERSATION.
03:47:36PM I DON'T WANT TO DISMISS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT
03:47:40PM THE FROM A VARIETY OF PERSPECTIVES.
03:47:41PM BUT HE IS WITHDRAWING HIS MOTION.
03:47:44PM SO I GUESS WE CAN MOVE ON AND WAIT TO FEBRUARY 27 AS LYNN
03:47:50PM HURTAK SAID.
03:47:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE ONE MORE.
03:47:53PM IF ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING DRIVES DOWN ANY OF THE STREETS
03:47:56PM THAT COME OFF OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, ALMOST ANY OF THEM,
03:47:59PM INCLUDING AROUND ALLEN ARE COMPLETELY FALLING APART.
03:48:04PM PEOPLE MOVING HERE, SAY $50,000 WHATEVER THE YEAR FOR
03:48:07PM TAXES, HOW COME MY ROADS ARE COMPLETELY FALLING AIL PART AND
03:48:10PM THE PARKS ARE FALLING IN APART.
03:48:12PM THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAD A CITY-WIDE VIEW.
03:48:14PM WE CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT FOREVER AND USE IT TO SPEND ON PET
03:48:18PM PROJECTS.
03:48:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A POTHOLE AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME IN
03:48:22PM MAGNOLIA AND REPORTED FOR MONTHS.
03:48:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: GET CALLS AND E-MAILS EVERY DAY ABOUT POTHOLES.
03:48:34PM EVERYTHING THAT IS DEEPER, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT
03:48:39PM BECAUSE WE SPEND IT ON OTHER THINGS.
03:48:41PM THE LAST THING IS, YOU ALL SAW THE WHOLE DISCUSSION OF THE
03:48:44PM RED LIGHT ON FRANKLIN STREET FOR -- FOR HARBOUR ISLAND.
03:48:48PM HARBOUR ISLAND HAVE HIRED THEIR OWN CONSULTANTS.
03:48:52PM THEIR CONSULTANTS DISAGREE WITH US.
03:48:56PM TWO-THIRDS OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT QUIT.
03:48:59PM AND ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIALS OF PEOPLE ABLE TO ANALYZE THESE
03:49:09PM THINGS.
03:49:09PM LIGHTNING IS NOT ASKING FOR IT.
03:49:11PM SBP IS NOT ASKING FOR IT.
03:49:13PM WE KNOW THE WAY THE ROADS ARE HANDLED RIGHT NOW ARE CAUSING
03:49:17PM ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TO POP UP.
03:49:19PM THIS LIGHT WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT HARBOUR ISLAND BUT AFFECT
03:49:23PM HALF OF SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE IT BACKS UP ROADS.
03:49:26PM AS WAS STATED THIS MORNING IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THE
03:49:31PM NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS E-MAILED THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WROTE
03:49:35PM BACK TO SAY THAT THE STAFF HAS THE RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER THEY
03:49:38PM WANT.
03:49:38PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO SPEND
03:49:41PM $500,000 ON A LIGHT THAT NO ONE WANTS AND NOT HAVE THEIR
03:49:47PM POTHOLES FILLED WHICH IS INSANE.
03:49:49PM I CAME UP WITH THIS MOTION AND IT SAYS WE PASS AN ORDINANCE
03:49:53PM THAT PROHIBITS THE STAFF FROM PUTTING UP RED LIGHTS.
03:49:56PM OF COURSE YOU DON'T WANT A BLANKET UMBRELLA THING LIKE THAT.
03:50:00PM WHAT ELSE DO COULD WE TO DO STOP THEM.
03:50:03PM IF THEY ARE BOUND AND DETERMINED TO DO STUFF.
03:50:06PM WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO FILL POTHOLES BUT SPEND IT ON A RED
03:50:10PM LIGHT NO ONE WANTS AND NOT GOING TO WORK.
03:50:12PM EXPERTS THAT HAVE SHOWN THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.
03:50:15PM WHY WOULD WE DO THAT?
03:50:17PM WHAT CAN WE TO DO STOP THEM?
03:50:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT A MOTION OR JUST DISCUSSION.
03:50:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT YET.
03:50:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE THE POWER OF THE PURSE.
03:50:25PM WE DO NOT HAVE TO FUND IT.
03:50:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT THEY HAVE THESE AS-NEEDED CONTRACTS.
03:50:31PM THEY CAN JUST ADD TO IT.
03:50:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS A COMPLEXITY --
03:50:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:50:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A POTHOLE AND CAVE-IN.
03:50:41PM POTHOLE ONE OR TWO LAYERS OF ASPHALT TO PUT IT DOWN, PATCH
03:50:45PM IT DOWN AND IT IS DONE.
03:50:47PM 24 HOURS.
03:50:47PM OTHER ONE MAY TAKE TWO WEEKS, BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE,
03:50:52PM THEY HAVE TO DIG ALL THE WAY AROUND THE ITEM.
03:50:55PM TAKE EVERYTHING OUT FROM THE BOTTOM.
03:50:57PM REINFORCE THE I'M AND PUT EVERYTHING BACK.
03:50:59PM IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
03:51:02PM THE WATER DOESN'T COME IN AND ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
03:51:07PM TAKES TWO OR THREE WEEKS.
03:51:09PM POTHOLE, NO PROBLEM.
03:51:11PM ANY I CALLED IN DONE 48 HOURS.
03:51:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS HAS BEEN MONTHS.
03:51:16PM NEXT TO ME ON MAGNOLIA.
03:51:18PM VIK, IF YOU WERE LISTENING, ON MAGNOLIA.
03:51:24PM IT HAS BEEN MONTHS.
03:51:25PM VERY LARGE AND PROBLEMATIC.
03:51:27PM YOU KNOW, I AGREE -- I AGREE -- I AGREE WITH SENTIMENT ON
03:51:33PM THIS.
03:51:33PM I AGREE.
03:51:34PM BEING A STICKLER FOR CHARTER AND COUNCIL RESPONSIBILITIES.
03:51:39PM HATE PLAYING IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S SANDBOX.
03:51:42PM AND THIS -- YOU ARE RIGHT.
03:51:44PM I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT WHEN YOU JUST SAID, WE WILL ALLOCATE
03:51:47PM THOSE FUNDS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
03:51:49PM AND MAYBE WE CAN ADDRESS THAT BY -- BY LINE ITEM DEFINITIONS
03:51:53PM OF FUNDS AND HOW THEY ARE EX-PENDED AND EVEN WE DID THAT
03:51:57PM WITH THE PAVING.
03:51:58PM WE SHIFTED MONEY AND DIRECTED MONEY FOR PAVING.
03:52:01PM LAST FISCAL YEAR.
03:52:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE WILL PASSED A PRIOR MOTION TO TAKE OUT OF
03:52:07PM THE KIMMINS CONTRACT.
03:52:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY --
03:52:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE STAFF TRIED TO SNEAK IT IN ANYWAY BUT
03:52:15PM LUCKILY IT WAS TAKEN OUT AND WE CAUGHT IT.
03:52:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BY A CHARTER, WE HAVE A CHARTER ISSUE
03:52:21PM CHANGE THE CHARTER TO REDEFINE -- WORKING WITHIN THE
03:52:24PM CONFINES OF THE CHARTER KNOWING WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS, I'M
03:52:28PM UNCOMFORTABLE.
03:52:33PM I AGREE WITH THE IMPACT ONLY TRAFFIC.
03:52:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS?
03:52:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY WHEN
03:52:42PM YOU TALKED OF YOUR INTENT TO PRESENT THIS TODAY.
03:52:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
03:52:48PM MISS ZELMAN.
03:52:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS ZELMAN AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
03:52:55PM BEFORE LUNCH, AND I HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
03:52:58PM WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL WOULD BE IF IT IS POSSIBLE,
03:53:02PM RATHER THAN HAVING A FULL PRESENTATION ON THIS AND HAVING A
03:53:05PM FULL LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
03:53:07PM TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE FOLLOWING
03:53:10PM BECAUSE WHATEVER ACTIONS MIGHT BE TAKEN IN THE NEXT TWO
03:53:15PM WEEKS TO ACTUAL LEGAL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MISS
03:53:19PM ZELMAN.
03:53:19PM I HAD QUESTIONS OF HER TO BEGIN WITH.
03:53:21PM SHE HAS THINGS SHE CAN PRESENT TO COUNCIL, BUT IT COULD BE A
03:53:26PM LENGTHY DISCUSSION AND MIGHT BE MORE PRODUCTIVE TO HAVE THAT
03:53:29PM TWO-WEEK OPPORTUNITY UNLESS MISS ZELMAN, YOU WISH TO --
03:53:34PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS, IF I
03:53:37PM MAY.
03:53:37PM ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
03:53:39PM I THINK WHAT I EXPLAINED TO WITH RESPONSE TO THE SOUTH
03:53:47PM HARBOR ISLAND ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN MISCHARACTERIZED.
03:53:52PM NOT THAT THE DEPARTMENT GETS TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND
03:53:55PM SINGLE-HANDEDLY GETS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS.
03:53:58PM LANGUAGE IN OUR CODE THAT AUTHORIZES THE TRANSPORTATION
03:54:02PM OFFICIAL WHICH IN OUR CASE IS THE MOBILITY DIRECTOR TO MAKE
03:54:05PM THE TIME DETERMINATIONS ON TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.
03:54:08PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS.
03:54:11PM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES ARE GOVERNED BY A NUMBER OF THINGS.
03:54:17PM THE INSTALLATION OF THEM.
03:54:19PM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION'S MANUAL FOR -- I FORGOT
03:54:25PM WHAT THE "U" STAND FOR BUT SOMETHING ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL
03:54:29PM DEVICES.
03:54:30PM CHAPTER 3.16 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES AND OUR CODE AND OUR
03:54:38PM TECHNICAL MANUAL.
03:54:39PM BUT THE BOTTOM LINE -- FDOT HAS REGULATIONS.
03:54:45PM BOTTOM LINE BEFORE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL CAN BE INSTALLED, THERE
03:54:49PM HAS TO BE A WARRANT STUDY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT
03:54:52PM MEETS WARRANTS.
03:54:53PM YOU CAN NOT INSTALL A SIGNAL IF IT DOESN'T MEET WARRANTS.
03:54:58PM IF IT DOES MEET WARRANTS, YOU DON'T AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO
03:55:03PM INSTALL A SIGNAL, YOU LOOK AT OTHER FACTORS TO DETERMINE
03:55:08PM WHETHER THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL IT THE APPROPRIATE DEVICE.
03:55:11PM THAT DETERMINATION IS MADE BY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
03:55:15PM IN THIS CASE, IT WAS STANTEK.
03:55:19PM THE ENGINEERS ARE HELD TO CERTAIN PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS.
03:55:23PM UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD AN ELECTED BODY EVER HAVE A
03:55:28PM SAY -- HAVE THE ABILITY TO OVERRULE THAT DETERMINATION.
03:55:33PM COUNCIL WOULD BE PUTTING THIS CITY -- EXPOSING IT TO GREAT
03:55:39PM LIABILITY IF ATTRACT ENGINEER REACH A CONCLUSION THAT
03:55:43PM A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT MET WARRANTS WAS NECESSARY TO PROTECT
03:55:47PM PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND THEN COUNCIL OVERRULED THAT.
03:55:55PM IF DID YOU THAT YOU WOULD DO THAT WITHOUT COUNCIL AND
03:55:59PM EXPOSING YOURSELF TO PERSONAL LIABILITY.
03:56:02PM I DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT LINE IN THE SAND BUT SIMPLY THE
03:56:06PM TRUTH.
03:56:07PM WE CAN NOT ALLOW AN ELECTED BODY TO OVERRIDE THESE KIND OF
03:56:11PM DECISIONS.
03:56:11PM THIS ISN'T AND ADMINISTRATION VERSUS COUNCIL ISSUE.
03:56:15PM AN ISSUE YOU GOT TO LET PROFESSIONAL DO THEIR JOB.
03:56:18PM AND IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO OVERRULE THOSE KIND OF
03:56:22PM DETERMINATIONS WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING PROFESSIONAL
03:56:26PM STANDARDS THAT ARE SET FORTH BOTH BY THE PROFESSION IN WHICH
03:56:29PM THEY ARE INVOLVED, BUT BY THE FEDS, THE STATE, AND THE CITY
03:56:34PM CODE.
03:56:35PM OUR TECHNICAL MANUAL.
03:56:37PM YOU KNOW, THE WAY -- THE BEST PRACTICES OF THE INDUSTRY.
03:56:40PM THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.
03:56:42PM THIS IS THE WAY IT IS ALWAYS DONE.
03:56:44PM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT.
03:56:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT -- MR. CHAIR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,
03:56:51PM MISS ZELMAN, THAT IS -- YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH A LOT OF
03:56:54PM LAWYERS.
03:56:54PM THAT IS A RED HERRING TO SCARE US.
03:56:56PM IF WE ARE ASKING FOR A SAFETY STUDY ON BAYSHORE AND IGNORE IT
03:57:01PM AND OVERRULE IT, THAT IS ONE THING.
03:57:03PM I TOOK ECONOMY METRICS CLASSES WITH PAGES AND PAGES OF MATH.
03:57:09PM AND WHY IS IT THAT THE DEMOCRATIC ECONOMISTS AND REPUBLICAN
03:57:13PM ECONOMISTS GET THE SAME RESULT BECAUSE OF THE SAME MAP AND
03:57:18PM THE MODEL BIAS THEY PUT IN IT.
03:57:20PM WHAT HAPPENS WITH SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, IS THE MODEL BIASED.
03:57:23PM SOMEBODY IN MOBILITY AND THE ADMINISTRATION WANTED THIS.
03:57:25PM AND THEY GO AND ASK THE QUESTION IN A WAY THAT GETS THE
03:57:28PM ANSWER THAT THEY WANT.
03:57:29PM AND WE CAN -- WE CAN GET THE OPPOSING ENGINEERS OUT JUST
03:57:32PM LIKE WE DO IN SOUTH HOWARD.
03:57:34PM SOUTH HOWARD, WE KNOW FROM PUBLIC RECORDS, THAT IT IS FULL OF
03:57:37PM ERRORS.
03:57:38PM AND WE WERE TOLD THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRUE.
03:57:41PM AND -- AND THE SAME THING HERE.
03:57:43PM TOILET TO TAP, WE WERE TOLD SO MANY UNTRUTH ABOUT IT.
03:57:47PM AND WE ARE ALWAYS -- LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS.
03:57:49PM LISTEN TO THE EXPERT.
03:57:51PM SAME ARGUMENT FOR SOUTH HOWARD.
03:57:53PM NOW I KNOW WE SHOULDN'T LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS AND BIASED
03:57:56PM BECAUSE OF THE QUESTION THAT THEY ASKED.
03:57:57PM IF WE NEED TO REDUCE THE SPEED CONTINUE TO BAYSHORE BECAUSE
03:58:01PM IT WILL MAKE IT SAFER, THIS IS SAFETY.
03:58:03PM THIS IS NOT A SAFETY ISSUE.
03:58:05PM NOTHING TO DO WITH SAFETY.
03:58:06PM SOMEBODY WANTED THIS FOR WHATEVER REASON.
03:58:08PM A POLITICAL FIGHT, I CAN MAKE A MOTION IN FAVOR OF IT SO THE
03:58:11PM MAYOR CAN OVERRULE THAT.
03:58:13PM SO IF YOU ARE BEING -- IF WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS
03:58:17PM OBJECTIVELY, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP THIS AND OPEN
03:58:20PM IT UP AT SOME POINT AND HAVE AN OBJECTIVE REVIEW BY
03:58:24PM OBJECTIVE SCIENTISTS.
03:58:25PM I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS.
03:58:27PM I WANTED TO BRING UP THE TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION.
03:58:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:58:30PM MY WHOLE FAMILY IS SICK, AND I WANT TO GO HOME.
03:58:32PM LET'S WRAP IT UP.
03:58:34PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:58:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO SAY AND I AM SURE COUNCILMAN CARLSON
03:58:38PM DIDN'T MEAN THIS AS AN INSULT TO MISS ZELMAN THAT WE ALL
03:58:42PM LIKE AND GET ALONG WITH.
03:58:43PM I ALWAYS KNOWN HER TO BE A PERSON OF UTMOST INTEGRITY.
03:58:47PM I SAY THIS WITH MY LAWYER HAT ON.
03:58:49PM SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN AMAZING ATTORNEY AND AMAZING
03:58:52PM PROFESSIONAL.
03:58:53PM AND, AGAIN, I AM SURE NO OWE FENCE WAS MADE, BUT, AGAIN,
03:58:57PM WHEN I HEAR THINGS LIKE SCARE TACTIC AND SO FORTH WITH LEGAL
03:59:02PM OPINIONS, I SEE A WOMAN WHO, TO ME, IS -- A DEAN OF LOCAL
03:59:07PM BAR.
03:59:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID AT THE BEGINNING I HAVE RESPECT FOR
03:59:11PM -- UNFORTUNATELY BY CHARTER, SHE WORKS FOR ALL OF US, BUT
03:59:14PM -- BUT THAT POSITION ULTIMATELY REPORTS TO THE MAYOR AND HAS
03:59:18PM TO CARRY WATER FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.
03:59:20PM SHE MOSTLY DOESN'T.
03:59:21PM SHE IS VERY OBJECTIVE.
03:59:22PM A SITUATION -- FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE ADMINISTRATION WAS
03:59:23PM THIS.
03:59:25PM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW, WHY DOES THE ADMINISTRATION WANT TO
03:59:29PM SPEND $500,000 ON SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT
03:59:32PM THAT WE DON'T NEED AND OTHER OUTSIDE ENGINEERS SAID WE DON'T
03:59:37PM NEED WHEN THE ROADS ARE FALLING APART.
03:59:40PM MAYOR WILL BE A HERO IF SHE STAND IN FRONT OF THE CAVE-INS
03:59:45PM AND FIXES THEM.
03:59:45PM THIS IS A FIGHT THAT ULTIMATELY IS NOT WORTH FIGHTING FOR
03:59:50PM THEM.
03:59:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARTIN SHELBY.
03:59:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
03:59:55PM NOT THAT I WANT TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DISCUSSION.
03:59:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT I WILL.
03:59:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS MY JOB.
04:00:00PM I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I DO SHARE THE OPINION OF THE
04:00:06PM CITY ATTORNEY IN THIS CASE.
04:00:07PM THE LIABILITY TO THE ORGANIZATION WITH A -- WITH DOING
04:00:14PM SOMETHING CONTRARY TO A TRAFFIC WARRANT COULD SUBJECT THE CITY
04:00:19PM TO LIABILITY DOING SO WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD RESULT IN
04:00:28PM PERSONAL LIABILITY.
04:00:30PM I DO NOT WANT THAT.
04:00:31PM AN ISSUE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HAS RAISED.
04:00:34PM FOR INSTANCE, THE DOCUMENTATION OF TRAFFIC WARRANT
04:00:37PM DETERMINATION OF THAT LOCATION.
04:00:38PM I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.
04:00:40PM YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.
04:00:42PM BUT I -- I AM -- I SHARE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION, BUT
04:00:49PM ALSO, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF THIS -- IF THIS CAN BE AGAIN
04:00:53PM -- I WILL -- I WILL RELAY WHAT I HAVE STATED EARLIER.
04:00:57PM IF YOU CAN CONTINUE THIS FOR THE NEXT WEATHER MEETING AND
04:01:01PM SUGGEST THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY PUT A PAUSE FOR THOSE
04:01:03PM TWO WEEKS, ALLOW ME TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
04:01:10PM ALLOW ME TO TALK TO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
04:01:13PM DOCUMENTATION AND RELATE TO COUNCIL BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE
04:01:17PM THAT I HAVE OF THE TRAFFIC WARRANT.
04:01:20PM I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT AND BEFORE CITY
04:01:24PM COUNCIL AT PUBLIC COMMENT AND CHALLENGED CERTAIN ASSERTIONS.
04:01:28PM I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT IF I
04:01:32PM CAN BE OF SERVICE.
04:01:32PM SO I MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE IF COUNCIL IS WILLING.
04:01:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
04:01:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS NECESSARY BECAUSE
04:01:40PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON DID NOT OFFICIALLY MAKE THE MOTION.
04:01:44PM I THINK IT IS MOOT.
04:01:45PM TO RE-STATE FOR PEOPLE TO ARE LISTENING, AGAIN, CLEARLY
04:01:50PM DEFINED ROLES BETWEEN THIS BODY THE ADMINISTRATION.
04:01:54PM WE HAVE THE CONTROL OF THE BUDGET AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
04:01:56PM SAID OF WE SPEND MONEY AND BEING IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
04:02:02PM YOU DON'T LIKE THAT TRAFFIC -- NOT THIS BODY THAT IS PUTTING
04:02:06PM IT IN.
04:02:06PM YOU KNOW HOW TO TALK TO.
04:02:08PM A POLITICAL DECISION AND ADMINISTRATION DECISION.
04:02:16PM MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
04:02:17PM AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR BLAME
04:02:20PM FOR THOSE THINGS.
04:02:21PM MAY BE GOOD OR BAD.
04:02:23PM I MAY NOT BE MANAGING THAT DETERMINATION AND WE NEED TO KNOW
04:02:26PM WHAT OUR ROLE IS AS CITY COUNCIL.
04:02:33PM CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, CITY ATTORNEY.
04:02:40PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES.
04:02:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAKING THIS OPINION OUT.
04:02:42PM WHAT ROLE, IN YOUR OPINION, DOES COUNCIL HAVE IN OUR -- WITHIN
04:02:46PM THE CHARTER OF MAKING THESE TYPES OF DAY TO DAY DECISIONS OF
04:02:53PM WHETHER WE DO THIS AND DO THAT.
04:02:54PM A LOT OF THINGS.
04:03:03PM THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO COME TO DOWN FUND THE PROCESS.
04:03:08PM ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE FUNDING PROCESS, WHAT OPINION DO WE
04:03:13PM HAVE, ANY AT ALL OF HOW THE MONEY IS SPEND, IF AT THAT
04:03:17PM PROJECT IS APPROVED WHETHER WE PAVE THAT SIDEWALK OR THAT
04:03:20PM SIDEWALK.
04:03:20PM OTHER THAN OUR RELATIONSHIPS IN ACCOMPLISHING THAT, ANY --
04:03:25PM IS THERE ANY LAW OR -- OR AUTRITY VESTED IN US BY THE
04:03:28PM CHARTER TO HAVE -- HAVE CONTROL IN THE -- IN THE FISCAL
04:03:32PM YEAR?
04:03:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE THE CHARTER OPEN IN FRONT OF ME.
04:03:35PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: FEEL FREE TO READ IT.
04:03:38PM THAT IS A VERY BROAD QUESTION.
04:03:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE GIST OF THIS.
04:03:43PM AGREE WITH THE PREMISE OF THIS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE
04:03:48PM HAVE RESPONSIBILITY.
04:03:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS WHAT THE CHARTER STATES AND I AM
04:03:50PM READING FROM THE DUTIES OF THE MAYOR, SECTION 4.01.
04:03:55PM NOTHING HEREIN OF THE -- OF THE MAYOR SHALL PREVENT THE
04:04:00PM CITY COUNCIL IN THE EXERCISE OF ITS LEGISLATIVE FUNCTIONS
04:04:03PM AND POWERS FROM CALLING INTO CONSULTATIONS THE BOARD AND
04:04:06PM DEPARTMENTS OF OTHER OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY.
04:04:08PM WHEREVER IN THE JUDGEMENT OF THE COUNCIL IT MAY BE
04:04:12PM NECESSARY, COMMA, BUT NEITHER THE COUNCIL NOR ANY MEMBER
04:04:15PM THEREOF SHALL INTERFERE WITH THE CONDUCT OF THE DEPARTMENT
04:04:23PM WITH THE DISCHARGE OF THAT PERSON'S DUTY.
04:04:25PM WITH REGARD TO MONEY, I WILL REMIND COUNCIL THAT AFTER THE
04:04:29PM BUDGET A ADOPTED.
04:04:31PM MIDYEAR BUDGET REQUIRES IT TO BE BROUGHT BY THE
04:04:34PM ADMINISTRATION.
04:04:35PM COUNCIL CANNOT INITIATE A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
04:04:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:04:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REAL SHORT.
04:04:43PM I KNOW RECENTLY WE HAD A LIST OF 10 OR 12 INDIVIDUALS THAT
04:04:49PM LEFT TO THE CITY FOR WHATEVER REASON.
04:04:50PM TWO YOUNG LADIES THAT CAME AND WAS COMPASSIONATE OF
04:04:56PM SENTIMENTS.
04:04:56PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
04:04:57PM I DON'T THINK ANYONE DOES.
04:04:58PM WANT IT CLEARED UP FOR MY OWN SANITY THAT WHAT HAPPENED, THE
04:05:04PM PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
04:05:05PM THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW ABOUT THAT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO
04:05:08PM GIVE US ALL THE RECORDS OF EXIT ALONG WITH HR TO FIND OUT
04:05:13PM WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
04:05:13PM I DON'T KNOW.
04:05:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WATCHED -- I WAS NOT HERE.
04:05:19PM I WAS OUT OF TOWN.
04:05:20PM I WAS NOT A PART OF THAT.
04:05:22PM I HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE IN LABOR AND
04:05:25PM MANAGEMENT AND BEING A HIRER AND FIRER OF EMPLOYEES IN HR.
04:05:31PM I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.
04:05:33PM PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT AND THE REGULATIONS ARE VERY STRICT.
04:05:37PM AGAIN, THERE ARE IS AN ADMINISTRATION FUNCTION, PERSONNEL
04:05:41PM HIRING AND FIRING.
04:05:42PM THERE IS -- THERE IS A LOT OF LAW -- A LOT OF CASE LAW.
04:05:46PM THERE IS A LOT OF EMPLOYMENT LAW.
04:05:49PM WE HAVE BARGAINING UNITS THAT NEGOTIATE THEIR AGREEMENTS.
04:05:54PM AND THIS WE HAVE TO CONFORM WITH.
04:05:55PM ANYTHING THAT WE DO WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE POSITION OF THE
04:06:00PM CITY AND THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY, THAT WE HAVE TO RELY ON
04:06:06PM OUR PROFESSIONAL HR DEPARTMENT AND THESE -- YOU KNOW, WE
04:06:10PM HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT HANDBOOK AND NEGOTIATED COLLECTIVE
04:06:14PM BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH OUR BARGAINING THAT WE HAVE TO
04:06:17PM CONFORM WITH.
04:06:18PM AND RECOURSE.
04:06:19PM AND BASED ON CASE LAW.
04:06:21PM AND BASED ON, YOU KNOW, VERY SPECIFIC PROCEDURES.
04:06:24PM WE -- WE DON'T --
04:06:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
04:06:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T PLAY IN THAT.
04:06:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I TOLD ONE OF THEM OUT THERE IN THE
04:06:32PM HALLWAY -- THE HALLWAY IN THE LITTLE PARKING GARAGE ONE DAY
04:06:36PM WHEN SHE WAS -- I SAID YOU TONIGHT LOOK HAPPY HERE.
04:06:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS TRUE AND MAY BE REAL ISSUE, BUT
04:06:43PM THERE IS AS -- BUT THERE IS A WHOLE AVENUE.
04:06:48PM A CERTAIN WRONGED -- DIFFERENT WAYS OF BEING WRONGED IN AT
04:06:52PM THAT EMPLOYMENT.
04:06:53PM THERE ARE TRADITIONAL PERFORMANCE ISSUES.
04:06:56PM DISCRIMINATION ISSUES.
04:06:58PM A LEGAL PATHWAY FOR RESOURCE AND REMEDY.
04:07:01PM AND THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO PURSUE THOSE LEGAL PATHWAYS.
04:07:04PM AND IT IS NOT POLITICAL.
04:07:06PM A LEGAL PATHWAY.
04:07:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT AND YOUR
04:07:10PM STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS.
04:07:11PM THAT MEANS THAT THAT WE ARE OUT OF IT.
04:07:14PM IT IS UP TO THEM.
04:07:15PM IF THEY WANT TO PURSUE THE CITY AND FILE, WHICH I DON'T
04:07:19PM THINK THEY WILL.
04:07:19PM THANK YOU.
04:07:20PM THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:07:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:07:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:07:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
04:07:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:07:28PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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