TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:03:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR THE
INVOCATION.
9:03:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
GOOD MORNING.
WE HAVE PASTOR ERICA ALLEN THIS MORNING.
SHE IS ONE OF MY PASTORS OF ONE OF THE CHURCHES I GO TO AT
HORIZON CHURCH IN SOUTH TAMPA.
SHE AND HER HUSBAND ARE THE TWO PASTORS.
WE ALL KNOW HER BECAUSE SHE'S SPOKEN MANY TIMES TO US
BEFORE.
WITH THAT, EVERYBODY, PLEASE RISE AND STAY FOR THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
9:04:15AM >> DO WE PRAY FIRST?
LET US PRAY.
GOD OF GOODNESS AND MERCY, GOD OF JUSTICE AND PURPOSE, GOD
OF ALL LIVING THINGS, WE COME BEFORE YOU AT THE START OF
THIS MEETING AND GIVE THANKS FOR OUR CITY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY WORKERS WHO ARE WORKING ALL OVER
THE CITY TO KEEP THINGS RUNNING.
WE THANK YOU FOR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO WERE SHOWING UP FOR
THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF ALL.
FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION PEOPLE SERVING YOUNG AND OLD
PEOPLE IN OUR CITY TODAY, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING
DIVISION, FOR THE CITIZENS WHO ARE TEACHING IN SCHOOLS, FOR
THOSE LEARNING AND FOR THOSE VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME TODAY.
WE THANK YOU FOR RELIGIOUS AND FAITH-BASED INSTITUTIONS
THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
THANKS FOR THE LEADERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE COMMITTED
TO JUSTICE AND SERVICE FOR ALL PEOPLE.
FOR THOSE WHO SEE THE MARGINALIZED AND DESPERATE AMONG US
AND SERVE THEM WITH ALL THE RESOURCES THEY HAVE.
WE THANK YOU FOR ARTS PROGRAMS THAT ALLOW PEOPLE SPACE FOR
CREATIVITY AND EXPRESSION.
WE THANK YOU FOR NONPROFITS WHO ARE FILLING THE GAPS FOR SO
MANY PEOPLE TODAY.
PROVIDING FOOD AND DIAPERS, HOUSING AND ASSISTANCE AND
WALKING ALONGSIDE THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US.
WE ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS FOR THE WAYS WE HAVE OVERLOOKED
THE HURTING AND THE POOR, FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS FOR THE TIMES
WE'VE REMAINED SILENT WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE USED OUR VOICES TO
ADVOCATE, FOR THE TIMES WE HAVE SPOKEN FOR HARM AND HURT AND
FOR THE WAYS WE HAVE NOT SERVED ONE ANOTHER WELL.

WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE THIS MEETING, THAT EVERY DECISION WILL
REFLECT YOUR LOVE AND JUSTICE EVEN AMIDST THE POLITICAL
CHAOS THAT ENVELOPES THIS NATION.
USE THIS CITY AND THESE LEADERS TO DEMONSTRATE THE POWER OF
DEMOCRACY AND THE GOODNESS OF AND POSSIBILITIES OF
GOVERNMENT.
GIVE THESE LEADERS THE FOCUS TO DO THEIR PART IN BUILDING A
CITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN SAFELY AND PROUDLY BE HOME.
I PRAY FOR EACH OF THESE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
GIVE THEM EYES AND HEARTS FOR YOUR PEOPLE.
GIVE THEM STRENGTH FOR SELFLESS SERVICE.
GIVE THEM COURAGE TO DO THE RIGHT THING ALWAYS.
GIVE THEM WISDOM.
SURROUND THEM WITH A PASSION FOR JUSTICE.
AND NOW, GOD, WE ASK YOUR BLESSING ON EVERY PERSON ATTENDING
THIS MEETING, FOR THOSE WHO WILL SPEAK AND THOSE WHO WILL
WATCH, FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE DECISIONS AND
FOR EVERY PERSON IN EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY OF THIS CITY.
MAKE US SHINE LIKE A LIGHT.
OFFERING BRIGHT HOPE AND LIFE-CHANGING MERCY.
AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
I HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON THAT SHE WILL BE
PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY TODAY.

IS SHE ON, MADAM CLERK?
9:07:13AM >>THE CLERK:
I DO NOT SEE HER ON.
NO.
9:07:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAKE A NOTE THAT UNTIL SHE CHECKS IN AND
JOINS US THAT SHE'S NOT PRESENT.
9:07:23AM >>THE CLERK:
CORRECT.
9:07:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:07:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:07:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:07:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:07:28AM >> HENDERSON?
VIERA?
9:07:29AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:07:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:07:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:07:31AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:07:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES
FROM JANUARY 2023 -- 2025 AND JANUARY 28, 2025.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
9:07:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THAT IS A TOTAL OF,
WHAT, THREE EVENINGS -- EXCUSE ME, THREE SEPARATE MINUTES.

9:07:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, 23rd, 28, AND THE 30th.
9:07:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE WORKSHOP AND THE EVENING ON THE 30th.
9:08:02AM >> FIVE.
9:08:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF HOUSE-KEEPING.
ITEM NUMBER 2, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS TO
FEBRUARY 20, 2025.
CAN I GET A MOTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ITEM 3, F.D.O.T. DOES NOT HAVE AN UPDATE THIS QUARTER.
9:08:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT I DO.
SO I'M GOING TO UPDATE.
THERE IS A TON OF STUFF GOING ON.
THEY JUST HAD A PUBLIC MEETING, SO I DO WANT TO TELL THE
COMMUNITY WHAT THEY ARE DOING, EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO.
.
9:08:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK WILL BE PRESENTING
ON ITEM 3.
THERE IS A TEN-MINUTE UPDATE.
9:08:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WON'T BE THAT LONG.
9:08:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 4, WE HAVE A REQUEST TO
WITHDRAW THIS ITEM.

MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 22, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS ASKED THAT THIS
ITEM BE PULLED AND BE HEARD FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS IN
CONJUNCTION WITH ITEM 67.
WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT.
ITEM NUMBER 39 IS A REQUEST FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN THAT THIS
BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA -- REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 56, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE ON THIS
ITEM TO A DATE THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO
MAKE THAT OFFICIAL MOTION AT 1:30.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE THE HEADS-UP ON THAT.
ITEM NUMBER 57, THERE IS A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW THAT.
THAT'S ALSO AN E-MAIL THAT WAS RECEIVED.
WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30 TO DO THAT.
AND THEN WE HAVE STAFF REPORTS.
WE HAVE NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE PER THE CHIEF OF STAFF.

ITEM NUMBER 60, DO WE NEED SOMEBODY IN PERSON?
YES.
OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER 61?
NO.
ITEM 62?
NO.
ITEM 63?
NO.
ITEM 64?
THERE IS A YES FOR 64.
ITEM 65?
DID YOU SAY YES ON 65?
IT'S WITH 66.
IT'S A WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM REPAIR PROJECT.
NO.
NO ON 65 AND 66 BECAUSE THEY ARE CONNECTED.
ITEM 67?
YES.
YES ON 68.
AND WE HAVE CHIEF TRIPP WILL BE APPEARING IN PERSON.
69, THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:11:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:11:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM 69 FROM
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 70, THERE IS A BRIEF WRITTEN RESPONSE.
MICHELLE VAN LOAN IT CAME FROM.
9:11:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
TALKING ABOUT 70?
9:11:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF E-MAIL ABOUT IT, SO I'M
KIND OF CURIOUS.
9:11:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU'RE CURIOUS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION
ABOUT THIS?
9:11:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE ASKED US TO
DELAY IT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN PUBLIC
COMMENT TODAY, SO FOLKS ASK ME TO JUST LISTEN TO PUBLIC
COMMENT BEFORE MAKING ANY MOTION.
9:11:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.
NO OFFICIAL ACTION.
WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE, AGAIN, I'VE
BEEN RECEIVING E-MAILS TOO.
9:12:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, THIS WAS FORMER
COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES' ITEM.
HE MADE THIS MOTION 2022, SO THREE YEARS AGO.
WE'VE JUST BEEN CARRYING IT FORWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT TO RESOLUTION.
BY THE WAY, HE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY LAST NIGHT AND CAN'T

BE HERE THIS MORNING.
9:12:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL HAVE TO SAY YES ON 70. 71 AND 72
ARE YESES.
ITEM 73 IS A YES.
ITEM 74, NO.
IT'S JUST THE CALENDAR.
9:12:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE SOME CONVERSATION TO
HAVE ABOUT THAT.
9:12:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75.
9:12:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75 THROUGH 79.
ANY OBJECTION?
THOSE ARE ALL WRITTEN REPORTS.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75
THROUGH 79.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ALL RIGHT.
THAT CONCLUDES THE HOUSEKEEPING.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
OUR FIRST CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY IS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH

OUR POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:13:33AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
WE HAVE HERE FOR DETECTIVE RAY FIGUEROA AND I BELIEVE
ASSISTANT CHIEF OWEN WILL BE PRESENTING.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:13:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
WE'RE HERE TO RECOGNIZE DETECTIVE RAY FIGUEROA.
TEN-YEAR VETERAN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND RECENTLY
PROMOTED TO DETECTIVE BACK IN AUGUST OF 2024.
FEW INCIDENTS HE'S BEEN INVOLVED WITH SINCE PROMOTED TO
DETECTIVE, AUGUST 16, UNIDENTIFIED SUBJECT STRUCK THE VICTIM
WITH A BLUNT OBJECT CAUSING SIGNIFICANT INJURIES.
DUE TO THE INJURIES, THE VICTIM WAS UNABLE TO COOPERATE WITH
THE INVESTIGATION.
DETECTIVE FIGUEROA IN HIS SECOND DAY AS DETECTIVE RESPONDED
TO THE INVESTIGATION.
HE COLLECTED VIDEOS FROM THE AREA AND POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED
THE SUSPECT.
DEFENDANT WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY TWO DAYS LATER WHERE THE
DETECTIVE OBTAINED A CONFESSION TO THE CRIME.
SEPTEMBER 19, 2024, THE SUBJECT ROBBED GROVE FINANCIAL BANK.
DETECTIVE FIGUEROA RESPONDED AS ONLY ASSIGNED DETECTIVE.
THE DEFENDANT WAS LOCATED WITHIN TWO HOURS.
THE DETECTIVE AUTHORIZED A SEARCH WARRANT AND RECOVERED

EVIDENCE OF THE ROBBERY.
HE ALSO TAPED A CONFESSION IN THIS CASE.
NOVEMBER 5, 2024, OFFICERS RESPONDED TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX
WHERE THEY LOCATED A MALE SUFFERING FROM GUNSHOT WOUND.
DETECTIVE FIGUEROA ASSUMED THE INVESTIGATION.
VICTIM PROVIDED LIMITED INFORMATION AND COULD NOT PROVIDE
ANY DEFINITIVE LEADS.
DETECTIVE FIGUEROA WORKED THE CASE MORE THAN A WEEK
CONDUCTING FOLLOW-UP INTERVIEWS.
HE IDENTIFIED THE SUSPECT AND THE VEHICLE HE WAS DRIVING.
INVESTIGATIVE MEANS, DEFENDANT WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY.
DETECTIVE FIGUEROA AGAIN OBTAINED A CONFESSION AND ALSO GOT
THE DEFENDANT TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF AS THE SHOOTER IN THE
VIDEO.
DECEMBER 8, 2024, OFFICERS RESPONDED TO WEST HILLSBOROUGH
JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER WHERE A DELAYED MISSING PERSON
REPORT HAD BEEN MADE.
IT WAS DETERMINED THAT A JUVENILE HAD ESCAPED THE FACILITY.
WEEK PRIOR, THE MISSING INMATE WAS CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE
MURDER.
DETECTIVE FIGUEROA LED THE INVESTIGATION WHICH DEVELOPED AN
ADDRESS WHERE THE JUVENILE WAS BELIEVED TO BE HIDING.
DETECTIVES RESPONDED AND WERE ABLE TO RETAKE THAT DEFENDANT
INTO CUSTODY.
FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF HIS PROMOTION, DETECTIVE FIGUEROA HAS

BEEN ASSIGNED COMPLEX INVESTIGATIONS INVOLVING VIOLENT
OFFENDERS.
HE INVESTIGATED THREE OF THE CASES RESULTING IN POST MIRANDA
CONFESSIONS.
FOR HIS EFFORTS, WE RECOGNIZE HIM AS TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU, WE HAVE SOME
FOLKS HERE WHO WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME GESTURES OF
APPRECIATION.
9:16:00AM >> BRIAN BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
DETECTIVE, GREAT JOB.
PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PLAQUE.
9:16:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
BEHALF OF THE STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS, I'M MARY
DILLON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ, PLEASE ACCEPT THE TICKETS TO
UPCOMING PERFORMANCE AND ENJOY YOURSELF.
THANK YOU.
9:16:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
HI.
CONGRATULATIONS.
MY NAME IS LORI OSBORNE.
I'M WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.

ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SERVICE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUICK THINKING AND YOUR SKILL SET.
WE ARE A SAFER COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO COME AND ATTEND AN
ORCHESTRA PERFORMANCE THIS SEASON.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU.
THANK YOU.
9:16:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
GOOD MORNING, DETECTIVE.
BRIAN FORD WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
YOUR STORY IS REMARKABLE.
WHAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY DO IN HAD SACRIFICE FOR THE CITY.
WE HAVE A TRADITION AT ONE BUCCANEER PLACE.
ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE
ORGANIZATION TO PRESENT YOU YOUR CUSTOM GAME BALL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, SACRIFICE, AND ALL
THAT YOU DO.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:30AM >> ALWAYS HATE GOING AFTER THE GAME BALL.
[ LAUGHTER ]

I'M MARY LOU BAILEY HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF ZOO
TAMPA.
9:17:36AM >> MARK HANEY WITH ZOO TAMPA.
9:17:39AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
WAY TO HIT IT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.
REALLY AWESOME.
APPARENTLY YOU HAVE A KNACK FOR GETTING THOSE CONFESSIONS
WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT SAVES US MORE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND
GETTING THOSE GUYS LOCKED AWAY.
REALLY IMPRESSIVE STORY.
THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO SERVES.
YOU ARE ALL MY HEROES.
INTRODUCE MY TEENAGE DAUGHTERS TO THE OLD SERIES "THE
ROOKIE," AND THEY ARE HOOKED.
WE WATCHED THREE EPISODES LAST NIGHT.
THEY WILL FOLLOW MY FOOTSTEPS IN LOVING THE POLICE AND
HONORING.
YOUR GIFT FROM THE ZOO.
9:18:08AM >> WE HAVE A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP FOR A YEAR TO THE ZOO.
A COUPLE OF ZOO TCHOTCHKES.
AFRICAN PAINTED DOG.
IT'S APPROPRIATE TODAY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
PREDATORS IN ALL OF AFRICA.
THEY GET THEIR PREY ABOUT 80% OF THE TIME.
WHEREAS LIONS GET THE PREY 20% OF THE TIME AND YOU CAN SEE

THEM AT THE ZOO.
9:18:30AM >> ENJOY IT IN GOOD HEALTH.
THANK YOU.
9:18:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JILL WITECKI WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY MAKE
FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
ON BEHALF OF THE THEATER, THIS IS AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR
YOU AND YOUR WIFE.
WE HOPE YOU'LL COME SEE US AT TAMPA'S MAJESTIC MOVIE PALACE.
9:18:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'M GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT WITH YOU THE GIFT CARD TO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO TAMPA.
PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF WITH THE FAMILY AT COLUMBIA, ULELE,
CATCH A FLAMINGO SHOW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:19:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BILL CURRIE FORD.
CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING THIS AWARD.
I TRULY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
ALL YOU GUYS THAT PUT THE UNIFORM ON EVERY SINGLE DAY TO
MAKE THESE SACRIFICES FOR ALL OF US TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE
FOR ALL OF US.

ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD, I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU A
HANDWRITTEN NOTE FROM JENNIFER CURRY WITH A GIFT CARD AND
MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE AND OTHER GOODIES IN
THE BAG.
CONGRATULATIONS.
TRULY APPRECIATE YOU.
9:19:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
CONGRATULATIONS.
THANKS FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU PART OF SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND TAKING
CARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE IT IS A SAFER PLACE BECAUSE OF
PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP'S AND STEPP'S TOWING, GIFT CARD FOR
DINNER.
HAVE A NIGHT OUT ON US.
ENJOY THE TIME OFF AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:20:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, DETECTIVE FIGUEROA.
MARYBETH WILLIAMS HERE ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA
RIVERWALK.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT WITH YOU A PERSONALIZED PAVER ON
THE TAMPA RIVERWALK.
IT WILL BE LOCATED IN MacDILL PARK.
IT WILL SAY DETECTIVE RAY FIGUEROA, TPD OFFICER OF THE MONTH

FOR FEBRUARY 2025.
IN ADDITION, SOME OF OUR CORPORATE MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO
PRESENT YOU WITH THE FOLLOWING, TWO ONE-HOUR COMPLEMENTARY
PASSES TO RIVERWALK, TWO COMPLEMENTARY ADMISSIONS TO THE
LOST PEARL, TWO DINNER FOR TWO ABOARD THE YACHT STARSHIP.
$200 GIFT CERTIFICATE TO SPLITSVILLE AND TWO COMPLEMENTARY
ALL-DAY PASSES TO PIRATE WATER TAXI.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:58AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO HONOR YOU AND DON'T LOSE THESE.
ON BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, WE'RE PROVIDING WITH
YOU A $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO,
PROVIDING YOU WITH A HUNDRED DOLLARS, GO OVER THERE ON
HARBOUR ISLAND.
BEHALF OF MEAT MARKET OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, HUNDRED
DOLLARS.
HUNDRED DOLLARS, IF YOU LIKE GREEK FOOD.
THE RESTAURANT GROUP, CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, $50.
AND BELLABRAVA, $50.
THE CHIEF IS NOT HERE, SO WE CAN'T TAKE YOUR GIFT
CERTIFICATES, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO BRING LETTERS WITH YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DETECTIVE, ON BEHALF OF A REALLY GRATEFUL CITY
OF TAMPA, WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK AND YOUR
SACRIFICE AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR US.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:17AM >> WROTE SOMETHING OUT.
BEAR WITH ME.
MORNING.
FIRST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE WITHOUT GOD THIS WOULDN'T BE
POSSIBLE FOR THAT.
THANKS TO MY WIFE AND FAMILY FOR UNWAVERING SUPPORT.
LONG NIGHTS AND HOURS AWAY FROM HOME.
THIS REALLY MAKES IT WORTH IT.
I APPRECIATE IT KINDLY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION OF THIS
AWARD.
THANK YOU FOR BELIEVING IN THE DEPARTMENT, OUR STAFF AND
AIDING US IN MAKING THE CITY SAFER AND THE BEST CITY IN THE
NATION.
TO OUR STAFF, THANKS FOR BELIEVING IN ME.
THANK YOU FOR THE PROMOTION AND RECOGNIZING ME WITH THIS
AWARD.
THIS ISN'T A ONE-MAN SHOW.
ALL THESE CASES WERE SOLVED WITH TEAMWORK WITH OUR AGENCIES.
THE FBI HELPED OUT WITH THE CASES AS WELL WITH THE BANK

ROBBERY.
DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM AS WELL, THE GUYS
THAT HELPED OUT WITH CASES.
LASTLY, OUR STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SUSIE LOPEZ, HER STAFF
WAS INCREDIBLE AND VERY PROACTIVE WITH OUR INVESTIGATIONS
AND ENSURING THAT PROSECUTION IN THE CASES ARE FOLLOWED AND
PROSECUTED.
THANKS FOR THAT AND MAKING OUR CITY SAFE.
APPRECIATE IT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU MAKE EVERY TIME YOU PUT
ON THE UNIFORM AND TO YOUR FAMILY, THE SACRIFICE THEY MAKE.
THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
THIS IS CERTAINLY WELL DESERVED.
CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT AS THE ROOM CLEARS
OUT.
ITEM 3, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE?
9:24:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THERE IS AN OVERHEAD, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IN
THIS LITTLE AREA.
FOLKS WHO DRIVE THIS AREA AND LIVE IN THIS AREA, IT'S VERY

IMPORTANT.
SHE'S GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE WOLF CAM.
SORRY.
YOU HAVE TO USE THE INFLECTION NOW.
IT'S NO LONGER AN ELMO.
IT'S A WOLF.
THEY'LL GET IT TO FOCUS AT SOME POINT.
THIS BASICALLY IS, RIGHT NOW A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION IS GOING
ON IN THE MALFUNCTION JUNCTION AREA.
ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WAS PUTTING FENCING UNDER SOME OF THE
OVERPASSES.
THAT'S GOING ON.
RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS SEVERAL RFQs OUT FOR I
BELIEVE SOME MURAL PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO GO ON TO THE
NOW FLAT WALLS.
TAMPA HEIGHTS HAS BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE REPAVING OF
TAMPA STREET BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE STORMWATER.
IT WAS A STORMWATER THAT GOT A FEDERAL GRANT FOR STORMWATER.
UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO COST OVERRUNS, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO
END UP BEING ONLY DRAINAGE REPAIR, REPLACING DAMAGED PIPES
AND INLETS BUT THEY STILL WILL BE GETTING SOMETHING WITH
THAT.
THE BIKEWAYS OF BOTH CENTRAL AVENUE AND OLA AVENUE HAVE
BEGUN.
THEY ARE WORKING ON CENTRAL AVENUE FIRST.

BOTH PROJECTS SHOULD BE DONE BY 2026 -- OR THE END OF 2026
WHICH SEEMS LIKE A REALLY LONG TIME, BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT
THE LIGHTS ARE GOING IN AT MLK AND SLIGH AND COLUMBUS, ABOUT
THREE-QUARTERS OF THE WAY THROUGH.
SO MAYBE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR.
HELP ME IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF IT.
TAMPA STREET AND FLORIDA AVENUE ARE BOTH GOING TO BE
REPAVED.
THAT IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF HEARTACHE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
TRYING TO GET DOWNTOWN DURING RUSH HOUR.
I JUST WANT TO PREPARE PEOPLE FOR THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BEGIN NEXT YEAR OR THE END OF THIS
YORE.
THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
I JUST FELT LIKE IF THEY WEREN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, I
NEEDED TO.
THAT'S IT.
9:27:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. SHELBY -- COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON IS ONLINE.
9:27:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, PURSUANT TO
COUNCIL'S RULES, CAN COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION TO PERMIT HER TO
PARTICIPATE REMOTELY?
9:27:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.

SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
AND MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT TO READ THE RULES FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT BEFORE I BEGIN?
9:27:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, THANK YOU.
IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND
PLACE IT IN THE BOX IS OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
EACH PERSON SPEAKING AND SUBMITTING A CARD WOULD BE
RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO APPROACH AND SPEAK.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT IS
DESIGNATED ON THE AGENDA AS A PUBLIC HEARING, THERE IS A
SIGN-IN SHEET, PLEASE USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET.
AGAIN, IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.

SPEAKERS ARE ALSO TO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING PERSONAL
ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH COUNCIL RULES MAY BE RULED
OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
NOW, FINALLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD BE REMINDED TO REFRAIN
FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT
TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH THE SPEAKERS DURING
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
THANK YOU.
9:29:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
SO FAR I HAVE 27 SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
TWO OF THEM ARE VIRTUAL.
I'LL TAKE THE TWO VIRTUAL ONES FIRST THAT ARE ONLINE.
THE FIRST IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH FOLLOWED BY MR. LAWRENCE
PREMAK.
MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE ON, GO AHEAD, YOU HAVE THREE

MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL TAKE MR. PREMAK NEXT.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:29:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT OUR UPCOMING MEETING ON JANUARY
THE 24th AT 7 P.M.
IT'S GOING TO BE ONLINE.
THE TITLE IS JUSTIFICATION OF THE SAFETY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT CONNECTING THE DOTS, A NATIONAL DISCUSSION ON
WHAT WORKS.
WE WILL BE DEALING WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM HIGH-CRIME
NEIGHBORHOODS FROM AROUND THE NATION WHO WILL SHARE THEIR
STRATEGY.
THIS MEETING PRESENTS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LEARN
FROM THOSE SUCCESS STORIES AND DISCUSS HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT
OUR INITIATIVE AS WELL.
THE TOPICS THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IS UPDATES ON MAJOR
PROJECTS IN WEST TAMPA, THE TECHNOLOGY, JOB CREATION CENTER.
THIS IS A STRATEGY INITIATIVE TO FOSTER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY
USING TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENTS, OF COURSE, AI.
THE NEXT IS HOME-BASED BUSINESS AND THEN OUR COMMUNITY
HEALTH AND ECONOMIC INITIATIVE.
THIS DISCUSSION IS ON HOW TO IMPROVE HEALTH OUTCOMES AND

ECONOMIC CONDITIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
NEXT IS LOOKING AT HOW DO WE EXPLORE ECONOMIC-BASED
SOLUTIONS TO CRIME?
THE WEST TAMPA CULTURE CENTER, THIS IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT
THE PRESENTATION OF ESTABLISHMENT OF A COASTAL CENTER TO
ADDRESS THE HISTORY OF WEST TAMPA WITH A FOCUS ON THE BLACK
COMMUNITY.
AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF BLACK COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ERASED.
NEXT IS A TOPIC ON WHAT DO WE DO AND HOW DO WE BRING HOME
THE YELLOW JACKETS LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM?
HOW DO WE BRING BACK HOME AND HELP THEM WITH FUNDING AS
WELL?
FINALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT AVENUES FOR
FUNDING TO FUND ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
9:31:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR.
9:32:14AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW, SIR?
9:32:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, GO AHEAD.
9:32:19AM >> YES, SIR.
I'M LARRY PRE-MACK, PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION WHICH CONSISTS OF 657 RESIDENCES ON THE SOUTHERN
HALF OF HARBOUR ISLAND.

AT THE JANUARY 23rd COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL HEARD OUR
REASONS FOR MORE STUDY OF THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN
FRONT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
AFTER VIK MADE HIS PRESENTATION, THE CONSENSUS IN THE 28
MINUTE DISCUSSION IS THE COUNCIL AGREED THIS WAS NOT A
VIABLE SOLUTION.
HOWEVER, NO MOTIONS WERE MADE.
WE E-MAILED CITY ATTORNEY ANDREA ZELMAN IN REGARD TO WHO
ACTUALLY HAD THE AUTHORITY TO INSTALL THE $500,000 WORTH OF
TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
MS. ZELMAN RESPONDED THAT THE HEAD OF THE MOBILITY
DEPARTMENT, VIK BHIDE HAD THE AUTHORITY AND DESPITE THE
SURVEY OF 4,000 HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENTS, A TRAFFIC
ENGINEER'S ALTERNATIVE SUGGESTIONS AND THE CITY COUNCIL, THE
MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WOULD BE INSTALLING THE LIGHT.
WE SENT A BROADCAST TO RESIDENTS INFORMING THEM OF THIS AND
ASKED THEM TO WRITE TO THE MAYOR TO REVERSE THIS DECISION.
THE MAYOR'S WRITTEN RESPONSES TO RESIDENTS WERE INCREDIBLE
ON SO MANY LEVELS.
SUBSEQUENTLY, I WATCHED WITH GREAT INTEREST THE ASTOUNDING
TESTIMONY OF THE TWO BRAVE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES OF
HARASSMENT AND DISCRIMINATION.
THEIR STATEMENTS WERE COMPELLING.
HOWEVER, MAYOR CASTOR RESPONDED TO OUR RESIDENTS ON THE
TRAFFIC LIGHTS STATING THAT SHE WAS SADDENED BY PERSONAL

ATTACKS ON MR. BHIDE AND SAID, AND I QUOTE, FRANKLY, IT IS
THE PERSONAL ATTACKS BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY THAT
HAVE CAUSED SEVERAL GOOD PEOPLE TO LEAVE PUBLIC SERVICE,
UNQUOTE.
THIS IS A DIRECT ATTACK ON CITY COUNCIL AND OUR RESIDENTS TO
THE PRESENTATION BY STEPHANIE POYNOR SHOWING GREAT
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE LEFT THE CITY, A NUMBER OF WHICH I
DEALT WITH PERSONALLY, LIKE ERICA MOODY WHO WAS A SUPERSTAR.
WHEN THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED THIS INVESTIGATING WHY THESE
PEOPLE LEFT, NO COUNCIL MEMBER TRIED TO LAY THE BLAME AT THE
MAYOR'S FEET, YET THE MAYOR IS QUICK TO POINT OUT TO
RESIDENTS THAT IT IS THE FULL COUNCIL AND RESIDENTS
RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MASS EXODUS.
ALSO DURING THAT MEETING, CHIEF BENNETT BASICALLY STATED
THAT THERE WERE NO COMPLETE EXIT INTERVIEWS DONE, IF AT ALL.
IF THERE WERE NO EXIT INTERVIEWS AND CHIEF BENNETT IS
STATING THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INTERVIEWS HIMSELF, THEN WHY
IS THE MAYOR THROWING THE WHOLE COUNCIL UNDER THE BUS
STATING THAT YOU ARE THE PROBLEM?
THE CONCLUSION HAS BEEN REACHED BEFORE THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN
STUDIED.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE
ADMINISTRATION'S OBSTINANCE TO EVERY OPPOSING VIEW.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S ASSESSMENT, INVESTIGATE
AND FIND ANY WAY YOU CAN TO STOP THESE.

AS I SAID TO MOST OF YOU PERSONALLY, I DO NOT KNOW WHY YOU
DO WHAT YOU DO, BUT I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU DO.
THANK YOU.
9:35:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL GO TO THE IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
BEVERLY KIENY IS THE FIRST SPEAKER.
FOLLOWED BY APRIL SELF.
I HOPE I'M SAYING IT CORRECTLY.
MR. VERN GARRETT SENIOR.
YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
IT WILL ACTIVATE IN JUST A SECOND.
9:35:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS BEVERLY KIENY.
I LIVE IN FOREST HILLS IN NORTH TAMPA.
I'M HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE WORKING.
THEY ARE HARD AT WORK AND REALLY CAN'T TAKE TIME OFF TO COME
SPEAK TO YOU SO I WANT TO BE THEIR ADVOCATE TODAY AS THE
FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT, WE'VE BEEN IN OVERDRIVE
HELPING OTHERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THE MORNING OF
OCTOBER 10.
WE WOKE UP AND THAT'S WHEN THE FLOODING BEGAN, AFTER
HURRICANE MILTON AND IN THE DAYS THAT FOLLOWED, WATERS CAME
UP TO THE POINT THAT PEOPLE WERE BEING BOAT RESCUED IN OUR

NO FLOOD ZONE.
I ASK YOU ON CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE HELP SUPPORT MY
NEIGHBORS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S BEEN OVER 125 DAYS SINCE THAT MORNING.
I CAN TELL YOU INTIMATELY THE SITUATION OF MANY PEOPLE WHO
LOST EVERYTHING.
OF THE 60 HOMES THAT I COUNT THAT WERE FLOODED NEAR ME, I
KEEP IN TOUCH WITH A TEXT GROUP OF ABOUT 34.
THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO SINCE MOST OF THEM ARE UNABLE TO LIVE
IN THEIR HOUSES.
YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T VISITED YET, THOSE HOMES WERE FLOODED WITH
BOTH STORMWATER AND SEWAGE.
BESIDES SHARING LEADS, I ENCOURAGE THEM NOT TO GIVE UP.
THERE ARE SO MANY OBSTACLES TO RETURNING TO NORMALCY.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE NOW.
WE'VE PROVIDED FOOD, BLANKETS, THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED
DAILY, A PLACE TO SIT.
EVEN BROUGHT COATS AND SHOES FOR PEOPLE THAT NEEDED THEM.
WHEN WE HAD THE COLD SNAP AROUND THE HOLIDAYS.
THEIR NEED DIDN'T END WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
THEY ARE STILL BROKEN.
SO MOST RUN THROUGH ALL THEIR OWN RESOURCES.
NOW THEY ARE IN A DEEP FINANCIAL HOLE.
THEY ARE TRYING TO HOLD ON TO AND KEEP THAT GENERATIONAL

HOUSE THAT THEY HAVE IN FOREST HILLS.
SO EVERY BIT OF FINANCIAL RELIEF THAT THEY CAN GET, IT WILL
HELP RESTORE THEM AND THEIR HOME AS WELL AS PRESERVE OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEIR STORIES, RIGHT WHEN I LOOK OUT MY OWN DOOR, I LIVE ON
EDISON AVENUE AND I LIVE A BLOCK OFF NORTH BOULEVARD AND
CLOSER TO THE EAST RIDGE PUMP.
WHOLE STREETS WERE AFFECTED ON NORTH BOULEVARD AT 109th.
THAT'S WHERE HAMNER AVENUE, OTIS AND THE HOUSES THAT
SURROUND THE STORMWATER PONDS THERE ON NORTH BOULEVARD,
NEWPORT CIRCLE AND CLIFF.
THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING OF IT.
CURIOSITY CREEK WHERE THE BACKUP GENERATOR AND THE PUMP DID
NOT TURN ON, THERE ARE MORE FAMILIES AND RETIREES FLOODED BY
THE PARK AND IT CONTINUES ALL THE WAY UP 113th AND OLA.
PLEASE DRIVE BY, GUYS.
YOU CAN SEE THE EMPTY HOUSES AND THE PODS IN THE DRIVEWAY IF
THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN A CONSTRUCTION MODE.
BUT AS YOU HEAR OF THE DAMAGE, IT'S REALLY WIDESPREAD IN OUR
AREA.
NUMBER ONE, WE WANT TO LET OUR COUNCILMEN, LUIS VIERA KNOW
WE APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE MATTER.
PRACTICALLY TO EVERYONE WHO WOULD LISTEN ABOUT WHAT OCCURRED
IN NORTH TAMPA.
YOU'VE BEEN IN PHENOMENAL IN COMMUNICATING WITH INDIVIDUALS.

I REALLY ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL WHEN OUTSIDE GROUPS OF PEOPLE
DISCOURAGED AND ANGRY AND YOU WERE ABLE TO STAY LATE AND
HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAD TO SAY.
COLLECTIVE BIG THANK YOU GOES TO TAMPA MAYOR JANE CASTOR FOR
PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, THIS IMPORTANT RECOVERY PACKAGE THAT
WE HOPE CITY COUNCIL WILL UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORT TODAY.
TOP OF MIND IS WHAT HAPPENS DIFFERENTLY AS HURRICANE SEASON
BEGINS AGAIN IN A FEW MONTHS.
THE COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS LATER IS REALLY WHAT
WE ALL WANT TO AGREE ON.
9:39:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:39:27AM >> THANK YOU.
I HAVE SOME LETTERS THAT I WOULD LIKE --
9:39:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GIVE THEM TO THE ATTORNEY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APRIL IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
APRIL SELF.
AND THEN MR. VERN GARRETT SENIOR AND MS. TAMMY JACKSON.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:39:46AM >> MY NAME IS APRIL SELF.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY HUSBAND IS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH ME TODAY AS HE HAS TO WORK
TO BE ABLE TO HELP US REBUILD OUR HOME.
WE LIVE IN FOREST HILLS OFF OF NORTH BOULEVARD.

WE WERE ONE OF THE HOMES THAT WERE ONE OF MANY HOMES
AFFECTED BY THE WATER FLOOD.
WE ONLY -- WE FLOODED FROM THE INSIDE, OUTSIDE, EVERYWHERE.
WE TOOK IN ALMOST THREE FEET OF WATER.
WHY?
THE PUMPS DIDN'T WORK.
THE GENERATORS DIDN'T KICK ON OR THERE WERE NO GENERATORS.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO ASSESS THAT GOING FORWARD?
ARE WE GOING TO BE IN A FLOOD ZONE GOING FORWARD?
MY MOTHER LIVES IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
SHE CAME AND STAYED WITH US THINKING SHE WOULD BE SAFE IN
OUR OWN HOME VERSUS HER HOME THAT IS A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
SHE ENDED UP LOSING HER CAR.
WE HAD TO FORCE HER TO EVACUATE.
SO THE STRESS, I DIDN'T PROTECT MY OWN MOTHER STAYING AT OUR
HOUSE BECAUSE THE CITY FAILED US.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT THIS IN THE FUTURE?
OUR NEIGHBORS, THERE'S ONE NEIGHBOR RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET
FROM US, HER HOME IS SITTING THERE VACANT BECAUSE SHE CAN'T
GET ANY ANSWERS FROM INSURANCE, FEMA OR ANYBODY.
WE'RE FIGHTING WITH FEMA TO HELP US PAY OUR RENT ON TOP OF
OUR MORTGAGE THAT WE'RE PAYING MONTHLY, ALL OF OUR UTILITY
BILLS.
INSURANCE TOLD US BASICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE,

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO FOR YOU.
HOW IS THE CITY OF TAMPA GOING TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BEING
LEFT FOR MANY OTHER PEOPLE, MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
ARE SITTING UNDERWATER STILL?
OUR FRONT YARD IS LIKE WALKING THROUGH A SWAMP.
IT'S JUST MUDDY FROM EVERYTHING.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S HOW THE TRUCKS HAD TO PICK UP ALL THE
DEBRIS AND MOVE THE DEBRIS FROM NOT HARMING OTHER PEOPLE.
NOW THE FRONT YARDS ARE RUINED.
WE'RE NOT EVEN BEING TOLD WE CAN GO BACK INTO OUR HOUSE
UNTIL THE END OF MARCH.
WE'RE GOING BROKE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEM
THAT THE CITY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR PUMPS WEREN'T
WORKING PROPERLY WITH EVERYTHING.
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT ALL THIS IN THE FUTURE?
HOW DO WE PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS?
IS THE MAYOR GOING TO HONESTLY HELP WITH THE RELIEF PACKAGE?
WILL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TWO WORKING FAMILIES, WILL THEY BE
ABLE TO QUALIFY TO GET ANY ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE?
HOW DOES THIS WORK?
WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANSWERS.
THE BUILDING PERMITS, YES, WE CAN GET THEM FOR FREE, BUT
IT'S STILL TAKING WEEKS TO GET THEM APPROVED THROUGH THE
SYSTEM.
SO WE'RE BEING DELAYED ON GETTING HOMES REBUILT.

WE WANT TO GO HOME.
WE WANT TO BE NORMAL.
WE WANT TO BE LIKE YOU.
YOU SIT IN YOUR HOME EVERY NIGHT.
WE DON'T.
WE SIT IN A HOTEL OR AirBnB WONDERING WHEN WE GET TO BE
LIKE YOU AND GO HOME.
9:42:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. VERN GARRETT SENIOR.
TAMMY JACKSON.
HOPE DEMETRIA JACKSON.
9:42:39AM >> GOOD MORNING.
VERN GARRETT SENIOR.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM.
I'M HERE WITH A BUNCH OF SUPPORTERS ABOUT THE RENAMING OF
THE PARK.
A LOT OF US GREW UP IN THE JACKSON HEIGHTS AREA OFF 34th.
MY MOM'S HOUSE BUILT IN 1971.
I GREW UP IN THE HOUSE.
I HAD TWO SISTERS.
WE ALL HAD KIDS, WHICH IS MY MOM GRANDKIDS.
EVERYBODY GO TO THE PARK, WHICH IS KNOWN AS FAIR OAKS.
WE ALL ARE IN FAVOR OF NAMING IT AFTER MR. ARTIS GAMBRELL.
ALL OF US BASICALLY GREW UP UNDER ARTIS GAMBRELL.
IF WE DIDN'T SHOW SUPPORT, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHICH WAY IT WOULD

GO OR -- THEN IT BECOMES ANOTHER NAME THAT NONE OF US
BASICALLY KNOW WHO IT IS GOING TO BE.
SUPPORT, HEY, IF RENAMED, ARTIS GAMBRELL.
THANK YOU FOR REDOING THE PARK.
IT'S LONG OVERDUE, BUT WE ACCEPT IT AND WE BELIEVE IT WILL
BE A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
STATE OF THE ART IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD, SO WE ACCEPT THAT.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO RENAME IT, ALL OF US ARE IN FAVOR OF
NAMING MR. ARTIS GAMBRELL.
HE WAS A GOOD GUY.
HE REARED ME THE RIGHT WAY.
HE REARED A LOT OF US THE RIGHT WAY.
LIKE I SAY, WE'RE ALL HERE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
IF IT'S GOING TO BE DONE, WE HOPE YOU MAKE THE RIGHT
DECISION AND RENAME IT AFTER MR. GAMBRELL.
IF YOU DON'T SEE THE SUPPORT BEHIND ME I MIGHT NEED TO GET
MY GLASSES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WILL TALK AFTER ME, TALK ABOUT THEIR
LIFE AT FAIR OAKS.
LITTLE LEAGUE FOOTBALL AT FAIR OAKS.
MY SON DIDN'T PLAY FOOTBALL BY MY NEPHEWS PLAYED.
CHEER COACHES, FOOTBALL COACHES.
FAIR OAKS IS WHAT WE KNOW.
MR. GAMBRELL IS WHAT WE KNOW.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT, PLEASE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND WE

APPRECIATE THAT.
I WON'T TAKE UP ALL YOUR TIME.
WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT MR. GAMBRELL.
9:45:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
TAMMY JACKSON.
HOPE DEMETRIA JACKSON AND CHERYL YOUNG.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
9:45:28AM >> MY NAME IS TAMMY JACKSON.
MR. VERN PRETTY MUCH STATED EVERYTHING.
I GREW UP THERE.
MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN, AND ALL WE KNOW IS FAIR OAKS
AS FAIR OAKS.
SO WE WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE IF YOU ALL WOULD CONSIDER NAMING
IT AFTER MR. ARTIS GAMBRELL, MY BROTHERS, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU.
9:45:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HOPE JACKSON.
FOLLOWED BY MS. SHERYL YOUNG AND MS. VALERIE BULLOCK.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:46:02AM >> HOPE DEMETRIA JACKSON.
GRANDDAUGHTER OF LATE EVANGELIST JACKSON AND FRIENDS.
HE BASICALLY RAISED ME.
FAIR OAKS IS ALL I KNOW.

MY CHILDREN HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY SPORTS, GO TO THE
PARK.
I UNDERSTAND GENTRIFICATION IS GOING ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD,
BUT PLEASE KEEP FAIR OAKS EITHER FAIR OAKS OR NAME IT AFTER
MR. GAMBRELL.
APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
9:46:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MS. CHERYL YOUNG.
MS. VALERIE BULLOCK.
MR. TYRONE WILLIAMS.
IS CHERYL YOUNG HERE?
9:46:49AM >> PASSES.
EVERYBODY SAID WHAT NEED TO SAY.
9:46:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VALERIE BULLOCK, TYRONE WILLIAMS, SHANDA
WILLIAMS.
9:46:58AM >> VALERIE BULLOCK.
I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN
COLLEGE HILL PROJECTS WHO POURED INTO MY LIFE AND TRIED TO
INSTILL VALUES IN ME TO MAKE ME A BETTER PERSON.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, I KNOW WE PASSED ON THIS
ONE TIME AND THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED FOR THE NEW HOUSING
COMPLEX AND THE NEW INNOVATIVE LEARNING CENTER ON YALE AND
COLUMBUS DRIVE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE PROJECT IS OR WHAT'S ON THE
AGENDA, THE PEOPLE ARE BEING OVERLOOKED.
NO ONE NEVER COMES OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH US.
WE ARE BUILDING THIS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR INPUT ON THIS.
WHEN I HIT THE STREETS, NOBODY EVER TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT
THEY WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL AND GET TRAINING FOR CULINARY
ARTS.
THEY WANT INFRASTRUCTURE JOBS BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE
MONEY IS AT AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET A JOB TO PAY MARKET
VALUE RENT.
CULINARY MIGHT DO IT FOR ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, BUT IT'S NOT
GOING TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY.
WE NEED TO BE BETTER STEWARDS WITH THE MONEY AND PUT THE
MONEY WHERE IT WILL HELP THE MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST
SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
WE'RE GOING TO GET TRAINING OR ANOTHER JOB.
WE DON'T NEED TRAINING.
ON MY STREET, WE NEED PAYCHECKS.
THAT IS WHAT WE NEED.
WE NEED PAYCHECKS AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LIVE.
THEY GOT SIX AND SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOMES OVER ON
MY STREET OFF OF 34th AND 24th AVENUE.
WE NEED A JOB WHERE WE CAN AFFORD THOSE HOMES.

WE SHOULD NOT BE OUTPRICED OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE
OF OUR ECONOMIC STATUS.
SO IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP THE EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS,
LET'S NOT DO STUFF SYMBOLICALLY.
LET'S DO STUFF THAT WILL REALLY HELP THE PEOPLE.
WE WANT THE SAME THING EVERYBODY ELSE WANT.
WE WANT A GOOD-PAYING JOB, A CAREER, AND WE WANT A NICE
HOUSE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO UNPLUG THE REFRIGERATOR TO TURN THE HEAT
ON.
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WANT.
WHEN IT COMES TO EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS, WE NEED TO HAVE ENTRY
LEVEL POSITION WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
WHAT ABOUT THE CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.
DON'T HAVE GOOD CREDIT.
DON'T HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.
OKAY, PLUMBING.
ALL YOU NEED IS A NINTH GRADE EDUCATION FOR THAT.
WE NEED TO STOP GETTING DISRESPECTED AND WHOEVER IS GETTING
FUNDING, THEY NEED TO COME WALK THE STREETS AND GET
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SEE WHAT WE WANT.
DON'T FORCE NOTHING DOWN OUR THROAT.
THAT IS DISRESPECT.
THANK YOU.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. TYRONE WILLIAMS.
MS. SHANDA WILLIAMS AND CLARICE CRAWFORD, THEN BISHOP.
TYRONE WILLIAMS.
NEXT SPEAKER.
SHANDA WILLIAMS AND CLARICE CRAWFORD PASSED.
9:50:23AM >> I'M CLARENCE CRAWFORD.
9:50:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT THE NEXT TWO PASS.
9:50:27AM >> YES.
9:50:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:50:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS CLARENCE CRAWFORD.
I AM A RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA, BORN AND RAISED IN THE FAIR
OAKS COMMUNITY.
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE FAIR OAKS REUNION COMMITTEE.
LAST YEAR WE HOSTED OUR FIRST FAIR OAKS REUNION AT ROWLETT
PARK WHICH WE HAD IN ATTENDANCE OVER 800 PEOPLE.
NOW, ALL THIS RENAMING AND ALL THIS STUFF IS NEW TO ME SO
I'M TRYING TO GET IN AND CATCH UP.
BUT AS MR. GARRETT STATED EARLIER, WE ALL GREW UP IN THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD, BORN AND RAISED.
SOME OF OUR PARENTS HAVE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 75 YEARS.
I STILL RESIDE IN MY PARENT'S HOUSE WHICH I OWNED FOR 31
YEARS.

MY HOUSE IS APPROXIMATELY MAYBE 600 FEET AWAY FROM THE PARK.
NOW, THE RENAMING OF FAIR OAKS PARK, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, ALL WE KNOW IS FAIR OAKS.
WE PLAYED THERE WHEN IT WAS JUST DIRT.
BUT IF BY CHANCE IT HAS TO BE RENAMED, WE WILL ACCEPT ARTIS
GAMBRELL.
LIKE SOME SAID, WE ALL COME UP UNDERNEATH HIM.
WHEN WE WAS GROWING UP, HE WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IN OUR
COMMUNITY TO WHERE BACK THEN THE NEIGHBORS COULD WORK THE
NEIGHBORS' KIDS.
THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
THERE WAS A LOT OF TIMES WE WERE GROWING UP THAT WE WERE
CHASTISED BY HIM.
WE GOT A WHOOPIN' AT THE PARK.
BY THE TIME HE WENT AND TELL MY PARENTS, WE GOT ANOTHER
WHIPPIN'.
THAT'S A LOT OF HISTORY THERE.
A LOT OF, LOT OF HISTORY THERE.
THE NAME FAIR OAKS, AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF US ARE WEARING
OUR SHIRTS, BUT IF YOU HAD SEEN THE PEOPLE IN THE PARK ON
NOVEMBER 16 OF LAST YEAR, YOU COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH
THAT WHOLE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN I TELL YOU WE BROUGHT THE CITY OUT, WE BROUGHT THE CITY
OUT.
WE DID EVERYTHING THE PROPER WAY, ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF

TAMPA FOR LEASE, EVERYTHING.
WE HAD NOT ONE PROBLEM.
WE PLAN TO DO IT AGAIN THIS COMING NOVEMBER 1st.
SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THE PEOPLE OF
FAIR OAKS COMMUNITY WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION ON CHANGING THE
NAME.
WE LOVE OUR FAIR OAKS.
BELIEVE YOU ME, FAIR OAKS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU CHANGE YOUR
NAME TO IT, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE FAIR OAKS BECAUSE THAT'S
WHAT WE KNOW.
BUT IF IT HAS TO BE CHANGED, WE WILL ACCEPT THE NAME ARTIS
GAMBRELL.
9:53:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SHANDA WILLIAMS PASSES, CORRECT?
CLARISE CRAWFORD PASSES.
9:53:39AM >> CLARENCE.
9:53:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OH, I'M SORRY.
BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY, YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER, FOLLOWED
BY MR. MARVIN KNIGHT AND MR. GREGORY SPEARS.
GOOD MORNING, BISHOP.
COME ON UP AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:54:10AM >> GOOD MORNING. I'M BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR JANE CASTOR, YOU THE
COUNCIL PEOPLE, AND ESPECIALLY GWEN HENDERSON WHO REPRESENTS

DISTRICT 5 AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS BUILDING FAIR OAKS.
I INITIATED THE BEGINNING FOR FAIR OAKS TO BE REBUILT.
I'M HERE TODAY ASKING AND I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE
CONFUSION.
THE NAME DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CHANGED AND I DO THINK THOSE
800 PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THE EVENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PART
OF DUE PROCESS.
I'M JUST SAYING THERE SHOULD BE DUE PROCESS THAT YOU SHOULD
ALLOW TO BE OPEN TO ALL THE RESIDENTS OF EAST TAMPA.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW TODAY THAT THE NAME CHANGE WAS
ON THE AGENDA.
I RECEIVED MANY PHONE CALLS WHEN IT WAS LET OUT THAT YOU ALL
WERE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS.
WE HAD ISSUES FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE COMMUNITY NOT
GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
THE COMMUNITY FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY WAS
NOT AWARE OF WHAT TRUTH WAS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF PROPAGANDA THAT WAS GOING OUT.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE NO CONFUSION, NO HARD FEELINGS,
NO PEOPLE BEING UPSET.
ONE OF THE NAMES THEY TOLD ME ABOUT, MS. YORK, A
SCHOOLTEACHER AT BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.
THERE ARE A LOT OF NAMES OF PEOPLE THAT KEPT THE COMMUNITY
INTACT WHERE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PLAQUES OF THEIR NAMES
IN THE BUILDING BUT THEY WANT IT TO STAY FAIR OAKS.

EVERYBODY THAT HAS SPOKEN SAY THEY KNOW IT BY FAIR OAKS.
WHEN YOU SAY FAIR OAKS, YOU KNOW WHAT PARK WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
THIS NEED TO BE TAKEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE NOTIFIED OF A HEARING AND THEN THE
COMMUNITY SHOULD COME OUT.
AND WHATEVER NAME BE SELECTED, THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY
STAND BY.
MAJORITY RULES.
BUT JUST TO DO SOMETHING TODAY, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO
THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WAS NOT AWARE THAT THIS
SUBJECT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
WE DON'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN ANY OTHER PARTS OF THE
COMMUNITY, SO WHY SHOULD THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY BE RUSHED TO
DO SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE NO INPUT.
THAT'S WHERE OUR PROBLEM COMES IN AT, WHEN PEOPLE FEEL THEY
ARE NOT TALKED TO, THEY ARE NOT GIVEN THE CORRECT
INFORMATION, AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON
THE BEHALF.
EVERY NAME THAT PROBABLY COME OUT A GREAT NAME.
ASK THAT YOU DELAY THIS AND GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN
OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT AND LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:56:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. MARVIN KNIGHT.

MR. GREGORY SPEARS.
MS. KATRINA VICARS.
9:56:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:56:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOUR NAME, SIR?
9:57:03AM >> MARVIN KNIGHT.
I CAN HONESTLY SAY OVER THE YEARS, NOT ONLY BEEN A PART OF
EAST TAMPA AND THE CITY OF TAMPA AND DOING EVENTS, I DO KNOW
MR. GAMBRELL, THE LATE ARTIS GAMBRELL.
HE WAS ALWAYS THERE TO DO THINGS POSITIVE.
WHEN WE DID EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT ONLY WAS HE
EMPLOYEE OVER 40 YEARS, BUT HE REALLY GAVE BACK AND NOT JUST
FOR THE MONEY THAT HE WAS RECEIVING FROM THE CITY, HE DID A
LOT WITHOUT MONEY.
THE FAIR OAKS PARK, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, A BUNCH OF OAK TREES
AND EVERYTHING.
COUPLE GOT TOGETHER AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE NAME.
BUNCH OF OAK TREES.
FAIREST THING TO DO, WHY DON'T WE NAME IT FAIR OAKS.
THAT'S WHERE FAIR OAKS CAME FROM.
I SAY, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE ON THIS THING HERE.
BEST THING TO DO, NOT WAIT NO MORE.
MAKE A DECISION TODAY.
I WOULD RECOMMEND ARTIS GAMBRELL SENIOR PARK AT FAIR OAKS.
YOU'VE GOT FAIR OAKS.
FAIREST THING TO DO, JUST LIKE HOW IT STARTED AND ARTIS

GAMBRELL WHO REALLY STOOD UP IN THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE
CITY OF TAMPA AND THE PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, A
LOT OF YOU GUYS, ESPECIALLY CHARLIE, BEEN HERE FOR ALL THE
DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
SO WE WANT TO NOT ONLY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THE TIME, BUT
I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER AND TO VOTE.
IF YOU HAVE TO VOTE TODAY, I WOULD SAY HAVE MR. ARTIS
GAMBRELL AND FAIR OAKS IN THAT NAME.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:59:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GREGORY SPEARS.
MS. KATRINA VICARS.
9:59:25AM >> GREGORY SPEARS PASSES.
9:59:27AM >> GREGORY SPEARS PASSES, KATRINA VICKERS PASSES.
LaCHONE TIMES.
SHE LEFT.
MS. STEPHANIE POYNOR AND CHERYLENE LEVY.
MR. STEVE MICHELINI.
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:59:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO STEP ONE.
COUNCIL HAS CHANGED THE PROCESS FOR NAMING PARKS.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TAKE THIS BABY, THIS FOOTBALL AND RUN WITH
IT AND ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE INPUT FROM THE JUMP.
I KNOW WHEN COUNCILMAN GUDES MADE THIS MOTION, THERE WASN'T
A PROCESS.
THERE IS NOW.
LET'S GO BACK TO STEP ONE.
SOMEBODY ON COUNCIL PREFERABLY, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WOULD
PROBABLY TAKE THIS ON AND GET SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY
AND DO THE STEPS LIKE WE DID TO NAME THE PARK IN SOUTH
TAMPA.
BUT I'M NOT UP HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
I COULDN'T HELP BUT COMMENT.
TIME IS MONEY, ESPECIALLY IN HOUSING.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE IN FOUR YEARS.
CASA BELMAR IS 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I WENT BACK AND CHECKED THE DATES.
FIRST TIME IN ACCELA 12 OF 2021.
THE GRAND OPENING WAS LAST WEEK.
IT IS COMPLETELY FULL.
100% OCCUPANCY BECAUSE 50 TO 80 PERCENT.
I HAVE A BIG HUGE, HUGE ISSUE WITH THE FACT THAT THE ROME
YARD WAS APPROVED IN 2021.
I WENT OUT THERE THIS MORNING.
AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU ALL THIS.
I STOPPED THIS MORNING BECAUSE I'M NOT FROM TAMPA.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THESE FOLKS SAY AND I'VE
LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE.
THIS IS ME STOPPING BY THE ROME YARD THIS MORNING.
I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY WHERE THE YELLOW JACKETS PLAYED.
AGAIN, HERE WE GO THIS MORNING.
AND THIS MORNING.
ACCORDING TO MY LITTLE TIMELINE HERE, NEXT MONTH WILL BE
FOUR YEARS SINCE THE RFP WAS GIVEN TO RELATED GROUP.
WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE A DIRT FIELD?
WHY DO WE NOT HAVE TIMELINES ASSIGNED TO OUR RFPs?
IF WE ARE GIVING AWAY OUR PROPERTY TO DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP
FOR US, IF WE ARE GOING UNDER CONTRACTS, WHY IS THERE NOT A
TIMELINE?
EVERY SINGLE PROJECT SHOULD HAVE A TIMELINE.
FOUR YEARS LATER, THESE FOLKS STILL HAVE DIRT.
954 UNITS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT HERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE JUST YESTERDAY OR THE DAY
BEFORE, SOMEBODY ASKED ME, WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S DRUG ON FOR
SO LONG?
I HAVE HYPOTHESIS FOR STARTERS, WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL
RIVERWALK THAT WILL RUN RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
DO YOU THINK THAT CHANGES THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY?
YOU BETCHA.
IT SURE DOES.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE MONEY WE'LL SPEND ON THE

RIVERWALK.
WHAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING, WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR MORE
INFORMATION AND, OF COURSE, I HAVE TO DIG AROUND A LITTLE
BIT, BUT THE ROME YARD'S WEBSITE IS NONEXISTENT ANYMORE.
IF YOU GOOGLE THE ROME YARD, IT GOES TO A DEAD PAGE.
RELATED GROUP DOESN'T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THE PROJECT TO PAY
FOR THE WEBSITE TO STILL BE UP AND RUNNING?
10:03:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:03:04AM >> THANK YOU.
YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:03:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHERYLENE LEVY.
AM I SAYING IT CORRECTLY, MA'AM?
10:03:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:03:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:03:16AM >> MY NAME IS CHERYLENE LEVY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY REGARDING THE FAIR OAKS PARK, I'M FROM
HYDE PARK, BUT MY FAMILY IS RIGHT THERE ON WILDER AND
34th.
FAIR OAKS WAS MY PARK.
I OWNED A SEMI-PRO FOOTBALL TEAM THAT HAD A LITTLE LEAGUE
FOOTBALL TEAM.
I NEEDED SOMEWHERE TO PLAY.
ARTIS GAMBRELL OPENED UP MANY DOORS IN PARKS IN THE CITY FOR
US TO HAVE GAMES.
FAIR OAKS STARTED OUT AS THE BEARS, THE BANDITS, RATTLERS

AND THE WILD CATS.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE NOT ONLY DID HE
HELP THE CHILDREN, HE HELPED ADULTS.
I SEE A FEW OF THE WORKERS HERE FROM THE CITY THAT HE
ACTUALLY GAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO.
AS FAR AS THE KIDS, WE KNOW OUR KIDS NEED A PARK TO GO TO
AND ARTIS MADE SURE HE HIRED THE RIGHT EMPLOYEES TO WORK
WITH OUR CHILDREN.
LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAY, ARTIS WOULD DISCIPLINE THE KIDS
THERE ALONG WITH THE STAFF.
WHEN THEY GOT HOME, THEY GOT DISCIPLINED, BECAUSE I WAS ONE
OF THEM BECAUSE I WAS A BAD LITTLE GIRL.
I KNOW THEY GOT ME REAL GOOD.
LOOK AT ME TODAY AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE CAN PLEASE KEEP THE NAME
EITHER FAIR OAKS BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS FAIR OAKS, ARTIS
GAMBRELL, GIVE RESPECT WHERE RESPECT IS DUE.
THIS MAN HAS DONE A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY.
AS MARVIN KNIGHT SAY, HE DID NOT SPEND JUST MONEY OF HIS
OWN, HE SPENT HIS OWN PERSONAL MONEY ALONG WITH THE CITY
MONEY.
CAN WE BE FAIR ABOUT IT?
LET'S GIVE OUR PARK WHAT IT REALLY SHOULD BE NAMED AND
THAT'S ARTIS GAMBRELL SENIOR.
THANK YOU.

10:04:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. STEVE MICHELINI, SANDRA PARDUE AND AILEEN HENDERSON.
NO.
SANDRA PARDUE FOLLOWED BY AILEEN HENDERSON AND MS. ANGELA
ALDERMAN WIN.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:05:16AM >> SANDRA PARDUE.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY EMPLOYEES AND CITIZENS.
I'M IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE
DONE TO KEEP OUR PARKS GROWING, IMPROVING AND THRIVING.
WE'RE LUCKY THAT TAMPA HAS THE FORESIGHT AND THE ABILITY TO
SUPPORT WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR OUR CITIZENS.
I HAVE OBSERVATIONS, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS RELATED TO THE
PARK I ENJOY EACH DAY, THAT'S CURTIS HIXON PARK.
I LOOK FORWARD EACH DAY TO GOING OVER THERE AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITIES OTHERS HAVE TO GO OVER THERE
TOO AND EXPERIENCE IT.
BUT IT'S SUFFERING.
SOME OF MY OBSERVATIONS, WE SHOW IT A LOT OF LOVE, ALMOST
TOO MUCH SOMETIMES.
PAVERS JUTTING UP FROM THE LARGE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WHEN WE
HAVE FESTIVALS, STAINS ON THE PAVERS AND IN THE GRASS FROM
THE FLUIDS VEHICLES PUT OUT.
GRASS TURNS TO SAND AND MUD REAL QUICKLY.

CIGARETTE BUTTS FROM SMOKING AS CERTAIN PEOPLE OCCUPY PARTS
OF THE PARK ALL DAY, THE UNHOUSED FOLKS OVER THERE.
CIGARETTE BUTTS OVER THERE AND SMOKE.
UNREGULATED HIGH DECIBEL SOUNDS FROM THE MANY FESTIVALS THAT
WE HAVE.
RATTLING THE WINDOWS AND PERHAPS DAMAGING THE HEARING OF
THOSE WHO ARE NOT EVEN AT THE FESTIVAL BUT JUST CLOSE ENOUGH
TO EXPERIENCE IT.
600 YARDS AWAY, YOUR WINDOWS RATTLE.
SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU THAT I'D LIKE TO YOU CONSIDER AS YOU
GO FORWARD TRYING TO MANAGE OUR CITY.
ARE THE FESTIVAL USERS PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE FOR THE WEAR
AND TEAR THEY PUT ON THE PARK?
I DON'T KNOW.
PARKS AND REC MIGHT KNOW.
YOU MIGHT KNOW.
DO WE NEED MORE DAILY CHECKS IN THE PARK FOR THOSE WHO ARE
NOT OBSERVING THE RULES ABOUT SMOKING AND LITTERING?
LITTER IS MORE THAN CIGARETTE BUTTS.
SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT USE THE PARK EVERY DAY LEAVE THEIR
BELONGINGS LYING AROUND IN THE PARK STACKED SOMEWHERE UNDER
A BENCH OR IN THE BUSHES.
NEW ORLEANS HAS SOME COOLERS ON THEIR STREET THAT WEREN'T
APPROPRIATE.
I'M CONCERNED IF YOU ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE, THAT'S AN

OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO DO DAMAGE AND MISCHIEF, TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF A SITUATION.
WE HAVE NOISE ORDINANCES IN OUR CITY.
DO THEY COVER WHAT HAPPENS IN THE PARKS?
I REFERRED TO THE RATTLING WINDOWS BEFORE.
IF WE DO HAVE THEM, ARE THEY BEING MONITORED?
IF THEY ARE MONITORED WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT
MONITORING?
HEARING DAMAGE AND PROPERTY DAMAGE ARE THE THINGS I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT THERE.
I'M PRETTY SURE IF YOU CHECK THE CALLS TO THE NONEMERGENCY
NUMBER LAST WEEKEND FROM THE FESTIVAL THAT WAS THERE, THERE
WOULD BE SEVERAL FROM THE NEIGHBORS, MAYBE MORE THAN
SEVERAL.
THANK YOU FOR KEEPING OUR PARK SYSTEM AS IT IS AND
CONTINUING TO IMPROVE IT.
CURTIS HIXON IS A GEM.
IT IS A DIAMOND RIGHT NOW.
BUT IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, NEGLECT OF SOME OF THE ISSUES AS
IT AGES, IT WON'T BE A DIAMOND ANYMORE.
IT WILL BE A SCRATCHED CUBIC ZIRCONIUMS.
LET'S NOT LET THE WEAR AND TEAR ACCUMULATE TO THE POINT THAT
OVER-USAGE GIVES US SOMETHING IMPOSSIBLE TO DEAL WITH.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY THOUGHTS.
HOPE YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR GREAT PARKS AND REC FOLKS.

10:08:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AILEEN HENDERSON, ANGELA ALDERMAN WYNN.
ULRICH JOHNSON.
10:08:32AM >> AILEEN HENDERSON.
THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GLAD TO BE BACK.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE YOU'VE SEEN ME.
I'M COMING BACK FULL FORCE.
I'D LIKE TO START WITH RECOGNIZING BLACK HISTORY MONTH FOR
ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE CELEBRATING.
SAD THAT WE HAVE TO CELEBRATE FOR A MONTH BECAUSE IT SHOULD
BE EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.
I DO WANT TO MENTION ITEM NUMBER 70.
I WAS HERE WHEN YOU ALL VOTED TO FINALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH
THE FUNDING.
IT WAS A GREAT DAY INDEED.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT THIS NAME AS A FIFTH
GENERATION OF TAMPA, I KNOW IT AS FAIR OAKS.
I FIGHT FOR HISTORY AND HISTORY IS IMPORTANT.
WHEN WE START LOOKING AT CHANGING NAMES, I UNDERSTAND
DEVELOPMENT HAS TO TAKE PLACE, BUT WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE TEMPER THAT WITH OUR HISTORY.
I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD FOR
THE NAME AND RECONSIDER HOW WE CAN FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A NEW PROCESS BUT WE REALLY

SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS.
MOVING FORWARD, I WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY THE
PROJECTS FOR 2025 WITH THE CEMETERY SOCIETY IN HOPES THAT
YOU CAN BE PROACTIVE AND I DON'T HAVE TO GET OUT THERE IN
THE STREETS AND PROTEST AND DO EVERYTHING I DO AND GET WITH
MEDIA TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE CHANGES THAT WE NEED FOR OUR
HISTORIC CEMETERIES.
NUMBER ONE, COLLEGE HILL, WHERE IS THE LETTER TO THE STATE?
I WOULD LIKE A FOLLOW-UP.
AND THE GPR.
I WANT THE ITALIAN CLUB TO HEAR ME CLEAR AND LOUD.
I'M COMING FOR YOU.
YOU'LL GIVE US THE GPR AND YOU'LL DO THE RIGHT THING AND
THAT'S FINAL.
MARTY COLON, THE CITY OF TAMPA NEEDS TO PURCHASE THAT
PROPERTY, PERIOD.
THERE ARE BODIES BURIED THERE.
WE HAVE THE PROOF, LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING.
MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, WHERE ARE WE WITH THE VETERANS
MONUMENT?
LOCATION, RESTORATION, AND SIZE.
OAK LAWN CEMETERY, THE FENCE TOPPER, I NEED AN UPDATE.
THE UNHOUSED.
I WAS JUST THERE RECENTLY AT NIGHT.
THE TRASH IS STILL DESPICABLE AND IT'S ON TOP OF THE

CEMETERY.
THERE ARE PEOPLE SLEEPING ALONG THE WALLS.
WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A DECADES-LONG PROBLEM.
IT'S A HISTORIC CEMETERY.
AND NOW THERE IS A DAMAGED FENCE.
WOODLAWN HAS A DAMAGED FENCE ALONG THE OLD CENTRO ASTURIANO.
AND MARKERS, SOMETHING I BROUGHT TO THE TABLE WHEN I STARTED
THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
I WAS SORT OF SHOT DOWN.
WE HAVE NEW BLOOD WITH THE NEW COORDINATOR IN THE PARKS
DEPARTMENT.
LINDSEY IS HER NAME.
SHE WORKS WITH US.
THERE'S OPEN COMMUNICATION.
BETTER THAN ANYTHING I EVER HAD.
KUDOS TO HER.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT AND RECOGNIZE THAT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW I'LL BE SENDING THIS PROJECTS REPORT TO
YOU AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK AND BE PROACTIVE TO GET THESE
ITEMS DONE.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
10:11:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MRS. ANGELA ALDERMAN WIN.

MR. ULRICH JOHNSON.
CATHY FRANCOEUR.
10:11:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ANGELA ALDERMAN WIN HERE TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO COLLEGE HILL
CEMETERY AND THE ITALIAN CLUB'S CONTINUED LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY WITH SCAN RESULTS.
TWO MONTHS INTO 2025, I COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ADDRESS THE
STATUS UPDATES ON SEVERAL ITEMS DISCUSSED BY COUNCIL LAST
YEAR.
ONE BEING A LETTER TO BE DRAFTED TO THE STATE REGARDING THE
ISSUE WITH THE ITALIAN CLUB AND COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S OFFICE HAS BEEN VERY KIND WITH
KEEPING ME INFORMED THAT THIS IS BEING WORKED ON.
I AM HERE TODAY ASKING FOR NEW INFORMATION AND DETAILS IF
THIS LETTER HAS TAKEN PLACE.
I AM ALSO HERE TO CHECK THE STATUS ON THE LETTER THAT WAS TO
BE PENNED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA'S OFFICE LAST YEAR TO THE
ITALIAN CLUB.
DUE TO THEIR LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WITH THE SCAN RESULTS AND
IGNORING COUNCIL'S MANY REQUESTS TO ATTEND TO PRODUCE THE
RESULTS.
I HAVE STOOD BEFORE COUNCIL FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
NOW WE ARE GOING INTO ANOTHER YEAR.
MY HEART WILL REMAIN HOPEFUL THAT 2025 WILL BRING US THE
ANSWERS WE NEED.

I AM GRATEFUL FOR WHAT COUNCIL HAS DONE AND BEEN ABLE TO DO
THUS FAR.
I AM ASKING COUNCIL TO PLEASE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT MY EFFORTS
WITH CLOSURE AND ANSWERS TO WHERE THE 1200 LOST SOULS ARE
THAT REST WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT IS NOW THE ITALIAN
CLUB CEMETERY.
I WILL NOT GO AWAY SILENTLY.
I WILL NOT LET THIS BE BRUSHED ASIDE AND FORGOTTEN AGAIN AS
THE ITALIAN CLUB WOULD LIKE.
I WILL NEVER ABANDON THIS ISSUE.
HOWEVER, I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND GIVE
RESTORATION AND DIGNITY BACK TO THOSE WHO WERE DESECRATED AT
COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY.
I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING TO LIGHT THE TRUTH AND HELP THE
COMMUNITY HEAL FROM YET ANOTHER DESECRATED AND FORGOTTEN
CEMETERY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
I MAY BE ONE PERSON STANDING BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY, BUT I
HAVE 1200 ALONGSIDE ME, WAITING FOR THEIR HEALING AND MEMORY
TO BE RESTORED.
THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
10:13:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ULRICH JOHNSON.
IS THE GENTLEMAN HERE?
CATHY FRANCOEUR.

SHANTA DAVIS, I BELIEVE.
MENTESNOT AND MS. CONNIE BURTON.
AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:13:55AM >> CATHY FRANCOEUR.
I LIVE ON WESTLAND, ONE STREET IN FROM HOWARD.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT STRETCH WHERE
THEY PUT THE NEW PARKING SPOTS ON HOWARD.
I HAVE ALREADY ALMOST AVOIDED AN ACCIDENT HAVING TO SLAM ON
MY BRAKES BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS PULLING OUT ONTO HOWARD FROM
THE WEST SIDE OF De LEON.
WHEN THOSE PARKING SPOTS ARE FULL, YOU CAN'T SEE COMING OUT
ONTO HOWARD.
YOU ONLY HAVE A FEW FEET BECAUSE ALL THE CARS ARE THERE AND
YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT IS COMING, SO THEY DARTED OUT IN FRONT OF
ME.
I DON'T KNOW WHO ACTUALLY MADE THE DECISION TO PUT THOSE
PARKING SPOTS THERE BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY THINK THEY KNOW
WHAT GOES ON AFTER 11 P.M., FROM 11 TO 3.
NOW YOU HAVE THE PARKED CARS THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE KIDS, MOST OF THEM ARE DRUNK,
DARTING ACROSS HOWARD TRYING TO GET TO THEIR PARKED CARS.
THEY DON'T USE THE CROSSWALKS.
I HAVE A PICTURE HERE.

YOU HAVE ALL THIS TRAFFIC COMING NORTH ON HOWARD.
PEOPLE JUST DARTING ACROSS.
YOU HAVE UBER -- EXCUSE ME, THE UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS
DROPPING PEOPLE OFF AND ADD TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE
TRYING TO PARALLEL PARK ON THE STREET.
IT'S JUST TOO MUCH.
SPEAKING OF THE UBER DRIVERS, I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PLANNING
A DESIGNATED DROP-OFF ZONE.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THEY ARE PLANNING THIS.
I'M TRYING TO FIND THAT OUT.
WE ARE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH
RUDE, INCONSIDERATE DRUNK PEOPLE JUST GOING THROUGH OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD ON FOOT.
WHOEVER DECIDED THIS, I HOPE THEY THINK LONG AND HARD WHERE
THEY PLAN ON PUTTING THAT BECAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE NO
RESIDENT WANTS THAT NEAR THEIR HOUSE.
LASTLY, ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, THE POLICE BLOCK OFF
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE STREETS TO KEEP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC
GOING ON HOWARD.
WHAT THAT DOES IS IT BRINGS ALL THAT TRAFFIC FROM HOWARD
ONTO OUR RESIDENTIAL STREET, MOSTLY ON WESTLAND.
THAT WHOLE REDIRECTION OF TRAFFIC THE POLICE ARE DOING, IT
IS A NONSTOP INCREASE OF TRAFFIC INTO WESTLAND.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, MY NEIGHBOR HAD HIS CAR SIDESWIPED

BECAUSE WE WERE PARKED ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREET AND ALL
THIS TRAFFIC WAS COMING THROUGH.
LASTLY, I REQUESTED THAT THESE BARRICADES, THE POLICE USE
THESE ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT.
THEY SIT HERE ALL WEEK LONG FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW, AND
NOBODY PICKS THEM UP DURING THE WEEK.
THEY GET TRASHED.
I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO CAN REMOVE THOSE DURING THE WEEK.
SO THANK YOU.
10:17:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHIEF OF STAFF -- HE'S TAKING NOTES RIGHT THERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
I APOLOGIZE.
I HAVE AN EXTRA SPEAKER.
ROBIN LOCKETT WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.
THE CARD WAS IN THE BOX.
SHANTA?
IS SHANTA HERE?
ALL RIGHT.
MENTESNOT.
MS. CONNIE BURTON, MS. ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:17:40AM >> UHURU.
MENTESNOT.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
MENTESNOT MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

ONE THING I CAN SAY, BLACK PEOPLE BORED AS F.
BLACK PEOPLE BORED AS F.
YOU ALL DOWN HERE TALKING ABOUT NAMING MFING PARK AND WE
HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS INSIDE OUR COMMUNITIES, THAT'S
IGNORANT.
STRAIGHT IGNORANT.
IT'S AS IGNORANT AS ME.
ADVERTISE IT.
YOU UNDERSTAND.
LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE DID A LOT OF GOOD IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UNDERSTAND?
YOU ALL MAKING FUSS OVER NAMING AN MFING PARK, AS IGNORANT
AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN BE.
DONALD TRUMP JUST TOOK OFFICE AND BLACK PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT
NAMING PARK.
WHITE PEOPLE OVER THERE WORRIED ABOUT HOW THEY RUN STUFF
THROUGH HYDE PARK AND YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT NAMING A PARK.
COACH BARNES, PAPA GREEN, ARTIS GAMBRELL, COACH WRIGHT.
GAY PAPA MILES.
NOBODY TALKS ABOUT BIG JOHNS FROM BIG JOHNS ALABAMA
BARBEQUE.
FED A LOT OF PEOPLE.
FREE.
MR. BAXLEY.
LADY OVER HERE IN CENTRAL PARK, DREW A BLANK THINKING OF HER

NAME.
DID SO MUCH TO HOLD THE HOOD DOWN.
LOTS OF PEOPLE.
NAME IT THE MAURICE BISHOP PARK, MALCOLM X PARK.
SOMETHING THAT BLACK PEOPLE CAN LOOK UP TO.
BLACK MAN BEEN IN THE PARK DECADES.
TINTED WINDOWS.
NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIM.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING SILLY.
WHAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IS CHILD SUPPORT.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT.
CHILD SUPPORT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM INSIDE THE BLACK
COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS.
CREATES MORE HAVOC INSIDE THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
IT IS A EUGENICS PROGRAM.
IT IS ILLEGAL, UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
WHITE FOLKS KNOW IT, JUDGES KNOW IT.
HEARING OFFICERS KNOW IT.
MAGISTRATES KNOW IT.
THE SUPREME COURT OF FLORIDA KNOW IT.
THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT KNOW IT.
THEY ALL KNOW IT.
IT'S LIKE SLAVERY.
THEY KNEW IT FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

THE MFERS LET IT GOING ON.
EVEN THE DRED SCOTT DECISION.
THEY REAFFIRMED IT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH CHILD SUPPORT.
HUMAN OWNERSHIP, HUMAN TRAFFICKING PROGRAM.
THIS IS THE CHILD SUPPORT APPLICATION.
YOU SEE THE FIRST QUESTION IN THE CHILD SUPPORT APPLICATION,
THE FIRST ENTRY IN THE CHILD SUPPORT APPLICATION IS, I HAVE
A FEAR OF PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL HARM FROM THE OTHER PARENT.
THE APPLICATION IS TOTALLY LEADING AND TOTALLY MISLEADING
AND TOTALLY ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
THIS CITY COUNCIL GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S
RUINING TOO MANY BLACK FAMILIES.
TOO MANY OLD BLACK MEN WALKING AROUND HERE WITH NO DRIVER'S
LICENSE.
OLD, ELDERLY BLACK MEN.
TIME TO STOP IT.
CHILD SUPPORT.
10:20:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
MS. CONNIE BURTON.
OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MS. ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:20:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
BLACK HISTORY, 365 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR.
THIS MONTH, THOUGH, IS THE MONTH THAT SHOULD PIQUE THE
CONSCIOUSNESS OF THOSE THAT LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES THAT

CAN GIVE TESTIMONY TO THE FACT THAT BLACK PEOPLE THAT WAS
ENSLAVED AND BUILT THIS COUNTRY TO THE LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT
IT IS RIGHT NOW, BLACK PEOPLE STILL DON'T ENJOY IT.
WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO COME AS YOU REDEVELOP INSIDE OF OUR
COMMUNITY, BEG, PLEAD, HOPE THAT WE PIQUE YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS
TO LISTEN TO THE CRIES OF THE PEOPLE.
PARKS THAT WE RECOGNIZE, THAT HAS BEEN A STAPLE HOLDER TO
OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD REMAIN AS SUCH.
AS THIS CITY CONTINUED TO GENTRIFY, IT CANNOT BECOME THE
BELOVED CITY THAT YOU IDENTIFIED IN RESOLUTION 344.
WHEN THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH IS BEING RECOGNIZED, I OFTEN
LOOK AND SAY WHAT BLACK INSTITUTION CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT
PROCESS?
NONE.
YOU KNOW WHY?
THEY HAVE ALL BEEN DESTROYED.
THEY HAVE ALL GONE AWAY.
THINGS THAT GAVE US MORE ENCOURAGEMENT, THOSE INSTITUTIONS
HAVE GONE.
WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU CAN DO IT TO SELL, I'M HERE EVERY
WEEK TO SEE HOW THIS MAYOR, THIS CITY GOVERNMENT LENDS $12
MILLION LOANS TO INSTITUTIONS SO THEY CAN PROJECT THEIR
PROJECTS.
THIS MORNING I WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT FOR OVER 115
YEARS, WE'VE HAD A SOLID INSTITUTION INSIDE OF THE BLACK

COMMUNITY CALLED THE NAACP.
SOME FIND IT TO BE DISGUSTING TO THEM BECAUSE TO THE
CONSCIOUSNESS OF MAKING SURE THAT BLACK PEOPLE, BLACK PEOPLE
CAN BE GIVEN A SEMBLANCE OF EQUALITY AND JUSTICE.
AS MOST WHITE PEOPLE WATCH YOUR NATIONAL LEADERSHIP GET
READY TO RUN THIS WHOLE COUNTRY OFF THE RAIL, YOU REMAIN
SILENT.
WE DON'T PLAN ON REMAINING SILENT.
WE PLAN ON CONTINUING AS WE'VE JUST SEEN TWO WEEKS AGO, THE
INSTALLATION OF NEW OFFICERS AT THE NAACP THAT WE SAY EVEN
TO THIS CITY GOVERNMENT THAT REFUSE TO RECOGNIZE THAT
LEADERSHIP, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON MOVING FORWARD.
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE, TOO, THAT IF YOU ARE TO BECOME A BELOVED
CITY LIKE YOUR RESOLUTION 344 LAY OUT YOU WANT TO BECOME,
THAT YOU LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT YOU LISTEN TO THE
PEOPLE, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THAT
BOARD, THAT BODY TO COME BACK AND TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE DOING
WRONG.
EACH WEEK, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO INFORM HAD THE
COMMUNITY OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE NOT DOING.
THANK YOU.
10:23:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MS. ROBIN LOCKETT.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

10:24:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
I WANT TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THINGS THAT I APPRECIATE FIRST.
I APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT THE AGENDA IS BEING CREATED.
ALSO, THE OUTCOME OF THE AGENDA WITH THE MINUTES AND THE
DATES THAT YOU GUYS DECIDED OF NEXT THINGS COMING UP, I
APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT ALLOWS THE COMMUNITY IF THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE AGENDA,
WHAT ACTION ITEMS HAVE HAPPENED AND THEY CAN LOOK FORWARD TO
THE NEXT DATE.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT THIS SHOULD BE EVERYTHING.
YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT MAKE A MOTION AND NOT HAVE -- AND MOTION
APPROVED FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO COME UP AND NOT HAVE A DATE
TAGGED TO IT.
THERE SHOULD BE A DATE TAGGED TO ALL OF YOUR STUFF SO YOU
KNOW.
WON'T GET LOST IN THE FRAY.
IT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK UP.
THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.
FAIR OAKS.
I THINK AS EVERYBODY SAYS, I DIDN'T GROW UP OFF OF 34th.
I GREW UP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF EAST TAMPA.
BUT I THINK THAT IT IS DUTIFUL OF THE COUNCIL TO LISTEN TO
THE COMMUNITY AND COME UP WITH A NAME.

A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME OUT SAYING FAIR OAKS WAS THE NAME,
ARTIS GAMBRELL WAS THE NAME.
PLEASE DO DUE PROCESS ON IT.
FORMER COUNCILMAN ORLANDO GUDES TEXTED ME.
HE STATES THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED A LETTER FROM HIM.
HE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO READ THAT LETTER.
THAT WAS HIS REQUEST HE WANTED ME TO ASK.
THAT WAS IT.
FAIR OAKS SHOULD BE -- YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY BY
ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
IF IT'S COMING OUT, ADVERTISE IT WELL.
DON'T ADVERTISE IT IN SECRET AND THEN NOBODY SHOWS UP AND
YOU SAY NOBODY CAME OUT.
ADVERTISE IT WELL.
DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON ADVERTISING IT WELL AND BRING THE
COMMUNITY SO AS OF THAT DATE, LIKE SOMEBODY HAD INDICATED,
AS OF THAT DAY, IT'S DECIDED.
AND EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY CAN MOVE ON.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:26:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY REQUESTS BY PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE
MATTERS?
ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC SAFETY IS COUNCIL MEMBER -- YES.
10:26:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DID THE AGENDA REVIEW EARLIER TODAY AND
KIND OF BYPASSED THIS ITEM ON FAIR OAKS, 70.
I SUGGEST WE STRIKE THIS FROM OUR AGENDA FOR NOW UNTIL IT IS
READDRESSED, SO REMOVE ITEM 70.
10:26:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO READ COUNCILMAN GUDES' MEMO
AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.
10:26:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THAT'S FINE.
10:27:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO IT NOW OR WAIT UNTIL THEN, COUNCILMAN
CARLSON?
10:27:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WAIT UNTIL THE AGENDA.
10:27:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S GO INTO CONSENT AGENDA THEN.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOUR ITEM FOR 5-7.
10:27:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
MOVE 5-7.
10:27:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, 8 THROUGH 17 IS YOUR COMMITTEE.
10:27:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
YES, I MOVE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD AFFAIRS ITEMS AGENDA --

10:27:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
8 THROUGH 17.
10:27:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
8 THROUGH 17.
THANK YOU.
10:27:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
I'M SORRY.
WE NEED TO DO ROLL CALL BECAUSE SHE IS VIRTUAL.
10:27:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOR EVERY SINGLE THING?
10:28:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF IT INVOLVES HER VOTE --
10:28:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE CAN TAKE IT AS A GROUP, RIGHT?
10:28:11AM >>THE CLERK:
JUST THE ORDINANCES.
10:28:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST THE ORDINANCES?
10:28:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YEAH.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE 8-17.
10:28:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO.
10:28:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
LEGALLY SUFFICIENT.
10:28:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE JUST DID IT FOR ALL THE OTHER ONES.
10:28:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LET'S DO IT FOR THE CONSENT DOCKET AND LET

ME THINK IT THROUGH.
UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
10:28:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 18 THROUGH 21 AND 23 THROUGH 34.
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
10:28:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:28:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AYE.
10:28:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:28:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MOVE ITEMS 35 THROUGH 38.
10:29:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:29:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AYE.
10:29:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ITEMS 40 THROUGH 44, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON?
10:29:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, SIR.
I NEED TO ABSTAIN ON ITEM 43.
MY FIRM DOES NOT DO BUSINESS RELATED TO ANY CITY PROJECTS,
INCLUDING THIS ONE.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE A CLIENT THAT MAY BENEFIT FROM THIS.
SO I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MY FORM 8B.

10:29:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
10:29:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 40 THROUGH 42 AND THEN
44.
10:29:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:29:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE ITEM 45 --
10:29:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, 43.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:29:56AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
10:30:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 45 IS COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
YOU WERE THE VICE-CHAIR OF THE PREVIOUS ONE, THAT'S WHY I
CALLED ON YOU.
10:30:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE ITEM 45.
10:30:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.
10:30:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AYE.
10:30:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE AN ITEM BEING SET FOR SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
MARCH 6, 10:30 A.M., MARCH 27, 10:30 A.M., AT 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, 33602.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:30:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AYE.
10:30:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE ARE AT 10:30.
10:30:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY.
THE ITEMS ON THE STAFF REPORTS.
10:30:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE WERE REQUESTS FOR IN-PERSON FOR
SOME OF THEM.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY MISTAKES.
60 AND 64, IT WAS REQUESTED -- IT WAS REQUESTED THAT THEY
APPEAR IN PERSON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEM 61, 62, 63, 65, AND 66 AND 69.
OH, NO, WE ALREADY DID THAT.
SORRY.
10:31:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
65 AND THEN 66.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE.
10:31:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:31:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:31:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:31:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:31:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:31:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:31:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:31:35AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:31:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARINGS OF 10:00?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEMS 47 AND 48 ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SWEAR ANYBODY IN.
WE HAVE A BRIEF UPDATE FROM THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR ON ITEM
NUMBER 47.
IF SHE IS HERE, YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
10:32:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DEANNA FAGGART, DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING.

WE ARE HERE FOR THE SECOND READING OF THE THRESHOLD
INCREASE.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS IS BASICALLY TO BRING US UP TO DATE.
WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE TO THE THRESHOLD IN ABOUT 25 YEARS.
SO THIS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED BY STAFF AS FAR AS
REDUCING WORKLOAD A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF BALANCING THINGS
OUT.
I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:32:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:32:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT SIX MONTHS
AGO OR SO, MET WITH STAFF AND CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT A WHOLE
SERIES OF NEW GUIDELINES FOR PURCHASING, LIKE THREE BID
MINIMUM AND WAYS TO DO PIGGYBACKING, ET CETERA.
PURCHASING AND CHIEF OF STAFF AGREED TO ALL THOSE.
WE'VE APPROVED ALL OF THEM AND NOW WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT
POLICIES AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THEM ALSO.
THE ISSUE AT THE TIME WAS THAT CHIEF OF STAFF AND PURCHASING
SAID ALL THAT IS GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME AND OTHER
JURISDICTIONS HAVE RAISED THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD.
IN BALANCING THOSE, I THINK IT WAS WORTH THE TRADE-OFF TO
GET THOSE ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.
I'M VOTING FOR THESE.
10:33:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYTHING ELSE?
IF NOT, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 47?
10:33:44AM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:33:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT.
SHE'S COMING UP.
WE HAVE A SPEAKER.
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:34:00AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
IT SEEMS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ISSUES
THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY WHERE WE KIND OF STAGNATE OURSELVES
AND WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
INFLATION, CPI, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
THIS PARTICULAR THING, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT I WANT
TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RAISING OUR FEES, THAT THE CITIZENS OF
TAMPA ARE OFFSETTING, ALONG WITH THE IMPACTS OF THESE
CHANGES.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE
FEES THAT THE CITIZENS ARE OFFSETTING SHOULD BE ADJUSTED FOR
CPI AND WHATNOT AS WELL.
I THINK THAT IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO MAKE THIS INCREASE.
THANK YOU.
10:34:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:34:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO TALK TO MS. FAGGART ABOUT ONE THING WE TALKED
ABOUT DURING OUR PREP MEETING OF RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LIMIT

OF 100,000.
BUT IF SOMETHING WERE TO BE AT 95,000 TO 100,000, YOU CREATE
A MEMO FOR COUNCIL.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT YOUR PLAN IS FOR THIS RAISING UP TO
THE 200,000?
10:35:12AM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
YES.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
SO, CURRENTLY, AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED, IF WE ARE
MAKING A PURCHASE THAT IS BETWEEN 95 AND 100 THOUSAND
DOLLARS THAT IS EXEMPT FROM COUNCIL APPROVAL, WE STILL
PROVIDE REPORTING ON 50,000 TO 100.
BUT FROM 95 TO 100 WE REQUIRE THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS
PROVIDE A MEMO EXPLAINING THE PRICING, WHY WE'RE IN THAT,
JUST BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF SKIRTING THE THRESHOLD.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT AN
ATTEMPT TO SKIRT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
SO WE DO HAVE THEM WRITE A JUSTIFICATION MEMO, AND WE SUBMIT
THAT WITH OUR REPORTS EVERY QUARTER.
THE INTENT NOW, IF YOU ALL APPROVE THIS CHANGE, IS THAT WE
WILL NOW REQUIRE A MEMO FROM 190,000 TO 200,000.
10:36:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOLKS KNEW THAT.
10:36:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.

ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING 47?
10:36:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 47, FILE NUMBER E2024-8, CHAPTER 2, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, REGARDING BIDDING AND
CERTAIN CONTRACTS; AMENDING SECTION 2-276, CITY OF TAMPA
CODE, TO EXEMPT FROM CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL ALL PURCHASES
REQUIRING AN EXPENDITURE OF LESS THAN 200,000; AMENDING
SECTION 2-277, CITY OF TAMPA CODE, TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR
OF PURCHASING TO ADMINISTER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT CONTRACTS
ESTIMATED TO COST LESS THAN 200,000; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH;
PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:37:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
YES, MA'AM.
10:37:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOLLARS IS IN THERE.
BECAUSE THAT WAS SKIPPED BOTH TIMES.
$200,000.
10:37:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND NO EUROS, NO YEN, DOLLARS.
10:37:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:37:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.

10:37:21AM >>THE CLERK:
HENDERSON?
10:37:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:37:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:37:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:37:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:37:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:37:27AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:37:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 48.
I THINK THIS GOES RIGHT WITH IT.
YES, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:37:46AM >> GOOD MORNING.
RICH MUTTERBACK, DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, HERE
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 48.
10:37:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
NO.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON 48?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING 48?
10:38:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SURE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE V, DIVISION
3, PURCHASES AND CONTRACTS, SECTION 2-280 REQUIRING THAT
WORK ORDERS MAY NOT BE ISSUED TO A SINGLE PROVIDER OF
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES EXCEEDING 200,000 IN THE AGGREGATE PER
FISCAL YEAR WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL AND INCREASING THE
THRESHOLD AMOUNT FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF WORK FROM
100,000 TO 200,000 DOLLARS; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:38:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:38:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:38:50AM >> HENDERSON?
HENDERSON?
10:38:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON?
10:39:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
I'M SORRY.
I'M HERE.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, CHAIR?
10:39:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, WE'RE DOING A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR
ITEM 48 AND GOING DOWN THE LINE.
10:39:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, I'M SORRY.
MY AIDE WAS IN MY EAR.

I APOLOGIZE.
YES.
10:39:21AM >>THE CLERK:
VIERA?
10:39:22AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:39:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:39:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:39:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:39:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:39:27AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:39:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE REGISTERED.
I SEE RODRIGUEZ AND RANDY COEN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE ON RIGHT NOW.
IF THEY ARE, WE'LL HAVE THEM RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND AND
WE'LL SWEAR THEM IN.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 49 THROUGH 55, PLEASE
STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
49 THROUGH 55.
10:40:01AM >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
YOU ARE ABOUT TO -- IS THE TRUTH?
10:40:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 49.
10:40:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

ITEM 49 IS REZ-23-71.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
5106 EAST 21st AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD AND RM 16 TO COMMERCIAL
INDUSTRIAL.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:40:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 49?
COME ON UP.
10:40:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, BRIAN SYKES, 4923 WEST
CYPRESS STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33607.
NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD FROM OUR PRIOR HEARING.
APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
10:41:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 49?
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH A MOTION TO CLOSE.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 49?
10:41:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SURE.
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

5106 EAST 21st AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND RM 16,
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:41:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:41:45AM >>THE CLERK:
HENDERSON?
10:41:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:41:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:41:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:41:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:41:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:41:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:41:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:41:58AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:41:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, I ACCIDENTALLY SKIPPED OVER YOU.
ITEM 50, I'LL ASK THAT YOU READ IT IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT.
ITEM NUMBER 50.
10:42:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT'S OKAY, CHAIR.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT SOUNDS BETTER JUST COMING FROM INSIDE THE
CHAMBER.

I'M OKAY WITH FOREGOING MY TURN IN READING ANYTHING.
10:42:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:42:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
10:42:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 50.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT HERE?
10:42:25AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
GOOD MORNING.
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 50 IS REZ-24-61.
THE ITEM IS A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3704 AND
3706 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50
AND COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY, LARGE GROUP CARE FACILITY.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:42:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
I SAW THAT WE HAVE A REGISTERED APPLICANT, ALVARO RODRIGUEZ.
IS HE ON?
10:43:01AM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
10:43:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO
WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 50?
YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:43:14AM >> YES, SIR.
GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF THINGS IS COMING TOWARD EAST
TAMPA.
SO IF THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT THIS, MANY OF THE
RESIDENTS ARE NOT AWARE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THAT IS COMING INTO
THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO ACT AS GOOD NEIGHBORS, GOOD
STEWARDS, THAT THEY DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT
THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE BECAUSE NOW WE ARE SPECTATORS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WRITTEN AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
IT'S THEIR PROPERTY.
IT'S THEIR LOT.
THEY CAN COME IN AND BE, AGAIN, GOOD NEIGHBORS OR BEING SEEN
AS VILLAINS TO THE COMMUNITY.
JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING ENOUGH ENGAGEMENT AND
CONVERSATION AS PEOPLE NOW COME AND DUMP INSIDE OF EAST
TAMPA.
THANK YOU.
10:44:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 50?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, WOULD YOU MIND READING 50?
10:44:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ-24-61, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
3704 AND 3706 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD, IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RS-50
(RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) AND CI (COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE)
TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY,
LARGE GROUP CARE FACILITY); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:44:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:45:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:45:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:45:04AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:45:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:45:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:45:08AM >> HENDERSON?
10:45:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:45:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

10:45:12AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:45:15AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:45:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA -- NO, VIERA. MIRANDA.
I'M SORRY.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:45:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:45:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:45:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:45:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:45:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:45:32AM >> HENDERSON?
10:45:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:45:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:45:36AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:45:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 51.
10:45:42AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 51 IS REZ-24-79.
THIS ITEM IS REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
223 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN

SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:46:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, SIR.
10:46:12AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
STEVE MICHELINI HERE REPRESENTING THE
PETITIONER.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL.
10:46:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
NO.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 51?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING 51?
10:46:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 51, FILE REZ-24-79,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
223 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG (COMMERCIAL GENERAL) TO PD
(PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES);
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:46:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.

SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ROLL CALL VOTE?
10:47:01AM >> HENDERSON?
10:47:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:47:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:47:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:47:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:47:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:47:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:47:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:47:09AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:47:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, ITEM 52.
10:47:17AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 52 IS REZ-24-92.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
4015 EAST 11th AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM-16 TO CI, COMMERCIAL
INTENSIVE.
THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST.
THERE IS NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST.
THIS IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR THE SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 52?
ITEM 52 HAS NO APPLICANT HERE OR ONLINE.

ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 52?
WAIT.
ARE YOU THE APPLICANT, SIR?
10:48:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
SAL, SENIOR.
5807 MARINER STREET, TAMPA, 33609.
I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE PROPERTY AT 4015 EAST 11th
AVENUE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:48:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON 52?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WE LEFT OFF WITH YOU AT 52.
10:48:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FILE NUMBER REZ-24-92, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4015 EAST
11th AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RM 16 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO CI
(COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES); PROVIDING AN DEFECT DATE.
10:48:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM
CLENDENIN.
ROLL CALL.

10:48:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:48:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:48:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:49:01AM >> HENDERSON?
10:49:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:49:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:49:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:49:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:49:10AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:49:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:14AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:49:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 53.
10:49:18AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 53 IS REZ-24-95.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
2508 NORTH 58th STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM 16 TO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:49:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 53?
YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP.
OH.
WELCOME BACK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:49:46AM >> AILEEN ROSARIO, 5827 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
10:49:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
53?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:50:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
MY PLEASURE TO READ THIS FOR MS. ROSARIO.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2508 NORTH 58th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RM-16 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO IG
(INDUSTRIAL GENERAL USES); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:50:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:50:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.

10:50:40AM >> HENDERSON?
10:50:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:50:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:50:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:50:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:50:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:50:46AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:50:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 54.
10:50:53AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 54 IS REZ-24-98.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
1709 EAST HENRY AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:51:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 54?
ITEM 54 HAS NO APPLICANT.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 54?
I SEE NO ONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 54.
WAIT, COUNCILMAN VIERA, WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE RECORD?
10:51:46AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH, JUST IN THE NORMAL REVIEW OF THE FILE,
ET CETERA.
10:51:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL PLAY MARTIN SHELBY, ARE YOU READY TO
VOTE?
READY AND WILLING.
I MOVE FILE REZ-24-98 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 1709 EAST HENRY AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS SH-RS (SEMINOLE
HEIGHTS, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO SH-PD (SEMINOLE
HEIGHTS, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:52:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM
MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:52:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:52:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:52:29AM >> HENDERSON?
10:52:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:52:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

10:52:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
[INAUDIBLE]
10:52:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:52:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:52:37AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:52:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. GARDNER, DO YOU HAVE 55?
YOU CAME IN AFTER WE SWORE PEOPLE IN.
IF YOU'VE COME IN SINCE FOR THIS LAST ITEM AND YOU'RE GOING
TO SPEAK ON IT, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND
WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:53:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE COHEN ONLINE OR NO?
10:53:07AM >>THE CLERK:
HE IS.
10:53:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF HE'S GOING TO SPEAK, WE NEED TO SWEAR
HIM IN.
IF NOT -- ALL RIGHT, MR. THOMAS, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:53:13AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 55 IS REZ 24-112. THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR
THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 509 SOUTH HYDE PARK AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL AND OFFICE
MEDICAL.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:53:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. THOMAS?
MR. GARDNER, COME ON UP.
SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:53:46AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF
TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.
WE HAD UNANIMOUS APPROVAL AT FIRST READING, BUT COUNCILMAN
CARLSON DIRECTED US TO GO BACK OUT ONE LAST TIME I BELIEVE
SPECIFICALLY TO SPANISH TOWN CREEK AND WANTED TO REPORT BACK
THAT OUTREACH.
WE HAD MET WITH SPANISH TOWN CREEK ACTUALLY TWICE PRIOR TO
THE FIRST READING BUT REACHED BACK OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF
THEY HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM THEM.
ALSO REACHED OUT TO -- THIS IS GOING TO BE ALPHABET SOUP --
HHPI.
I TALKED TO MARY LOU BAILEY; SHE EXPRESSED NO CONCERNS AT
ALL.
REACHED OUT TO HHPNA.
IF YOU RECALL AT THE HEARING, THEY HAD THEIR LETTER OF NO
OBJECTION.
THEY DID NOT RESPOND BACK TO THAT.
LASTLY, LJ AT TGH MET WITH THE NICE LADY THAT CAME BEFORE AT
FIRST READING FROM THE PONCE TOWNHOMES HOA, WHICH IS NEXT
DOOR, AND MET WITH HER ON-SITE.
THEY WROTE A VERY NICE LETTER.

I SUBMIT IN THE RECORD.
PUT IT IN THE QUASI-BOX, BUT I'LL SUBMIT IT TO MARTIN AS
WELL.
AGAIN, EXPRESSING THAT THEY HAVE NO OBJECTIONS EITHER.
JUST WANTED TO REPORT BACK ON THAT OUTREACH SINCE IT WAS
REQUESTED.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
10:55:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 55?
SEEING NONE, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION TO
CLOSE.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM 55, YES, MA'AM, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:55:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ-24-112, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 509 SOUTH HYDE PARK
AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE,
BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
10:55:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.

ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:55:53AM >> HENDERSON?
10:55:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:55:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:55:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:55:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:55:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:55:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:56:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:56:02AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:56:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WAS MOTION TO ADOPT.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:56:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE HAVE TO WAIT.
THERE IS A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE AND REQUEST TO WITHDRAW.
WE CAN'T TAKE THOSE UP UNTIL 1:30.
WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 58, WE HAVE A MEMO HERE WITH ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO PRESENT?
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:56:29AM >> LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE FOR ITEM 58, A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ADDING PEDICABS
TO CURRENT NONMOTORIZED VEHICLE REGULATION CONTAINED IN

CHAPTER 25.
I'M HERE FOR ADDITIONAL DETAILS SHOULD YOU NEED ANY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
10:56:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 58?
THIS IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN FOR THIS.
I SEE NONE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 58?
10:57:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE ITEM NUMBER 58, FILE E2025-8, CH 25.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
PEDICAB AND NON-MOTORIZED VEHICLE REGULATION; MAKING
REVISIONS TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCE, CHAPTER 25,
(TRANSPORTATION); AMENDING SECTION 25-4, DEFINITIONS;
AMENDING SECTION 25-48, PERMIT TYPES; AMENDING SECTION
25-60, RESERVED; AMENDING SECTION 25-61; NONMOTORIZED
VEHICLE -- PERMIT REQUIRED; ONE PERMIT FOR EACH BUSINESS OR
OPERATION; PERMIT TO BE ATTACHED TO EACH VEHICLE; AMENDING

SECTION 25-62, SAME -- APPLICATION FOR PERMIT; APPROVAL,
DENIAL OF APPLICATION; APPEAL; PERMIT FEE; AMENDING SECTION
25-63, SAME -- ADHERENCE TO PLAN SUBMITTED IN APPLICATION
REQUIRED; AMENDMENTS TO PLAN; MODIFICATIONS TO PLAN BY
TRANSPORTATION MANAGER; AMENDING SECTION 25-64, SAME --
RENEWAL OF PERMITS; LOST, DESTROYED PERMITS; PERMITS
NONTRANSFERABLE; REPLACEMENTS AND SUBSTITUTIONS; DORMANT
PERMITS; AMENDING SECTION 25-65, SAME, DRIVER'S PERMIT
REQUIRED; APPLICATIONS; QUALIFICATIONS; ISSUANCE OR DENIAL
OF PERMIT; DURATION AND RENEWAL; REVOCATION; DISPLAY OF
PERMIT; AMENDING SECTION 25-66, SAME, BUSINESS TAX; AMENDING
SECTION 25-67, SAME, LIABILITY INSURANCE REQUIRED; FORM,
AMOUNT AND COVERAGE; APPROVAL; AMENDING AND RENUMBERING
SECTION 25-187 TO SECTION 25-60, NONMOTORIZED VEHICLES;
PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:59:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:59:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:59:21AM >> CLENDENIN?
HENDERSON?
10:59:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:59:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

10:59:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:59:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:59:28AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 6, 2025,
AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
10:59:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.

10:59:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST -- MY WONDERFUL AIDE, KELLY SHARP -- I
KNOW WE TECHNICALLY HAVE ITEM 70, BUT WE HAVE A MEMO THAT I
DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO READ THAT SAYS VERY
CLEARLY THAT WHILE THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST HAS NOW BEEN
REVIEWED PURSUANT TO THE CODE PROCESS, CITY STAFF AT THE
JANUARY 23, 2025 MEETING REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE OF THIS
MATTER TO SPRING 2026 FOR FOLLOWING REASON: THE PROPERTY
ISSUED THE EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX IS CURRENTLY
UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND GENERATED SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN THE
SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
THE CONTINUANCE WAS REQUESTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PROVIDE INPUT
AS TO THE NAMING OF THE COMPLEX AND THE FACILITIES THERE IN.
CITY'S ENGAGEMENT AND PARTNERSHIP STAFF CAN WORK WITH
COUNCIL TO SOLICIT COMMUNITY INPUT TO HAVE COUNCIL TO ENGAGE
THE COMMUNITY BEFORE MAKING A FINAL DETERMINATION.
THIS IS FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
SOUNDS LIKE WE ALREADY --
11:00:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT DATE WAS THAT AGAIN?
11:00:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JANUARY 23.
THEY REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE, AND IT SOUND LIKE WE GRANTED
IT.
NO, WE DID NOT GRANT IT.
11:01:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MISS FEELEY IS HERE.
11:01:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE HAD A CONTINUANCE UNTIL TODAY.
THEY ARE ASKING FOR ANOTHER CONTINUANCE?
11:01:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AT THE JANUARY 23 MEETING, REQUESTED A
CONTINUANCE OF THIS MATTER TO SPRING 2026.
11:01:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MISS FEELEY.
11:01:19AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ABBYE FEELEY.
WE ASKED FOR THAT AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON MADE A MOTION
TO BRING IT BACK.
YOU THOUGHT WE HAD A TYPO IN THE MEMO THAT WOULD NEEDED TO
BE FEBRUARY 6.
WE ASKED FOR FEBRUARY 5 OF 2026.
AND THAT IS WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE TO BRING IT BACK TODAY
WITH NO FURTHER CONTINUANCES.
11:01:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, OKAY.
11:01:40AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT IS WHY A SUBSEQUENT MEMO WITH
ADDITIONAL CONTEXT WAS PROVIDED TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT
ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
AND THE ALLOWANCE FOR US TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
11:01:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GET TO 70 SOON.
11:01:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THOUGHT WE COULD SOLVE IT QUICKLY.
11:02:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, I APPRECIATE IT.
PER COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S REQUEST, 22 AND 68 WILL BE TAKEN
FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORT.
BUT DO YOU NEED A FEW MORE MINUTES FOR CHIEF TRIPP TO COME
IN?
11:02:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I -- YOU WANTED THAT FIRST?
I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF TRIPP --
11:02:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE DO IT AFTER LUNCH?
11:02:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I KNOW MR. STOCCO WANTS TO BE HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS AVAILABILITY AS WELL.
MY AIDE ASKED YOU FOR THAT?
11:02:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ASKED IF WE TAKE STAFF REPORTS BEFORE
LUNCH.
WE HAVE 58 MINUTES.
11:02:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
A REQUEST FROM YOUR OFFICE TO BE HEARD FIRST UNDER STAFF
REPORTS WITH ITEM 22 AND 67 TOGETHER.
11:02:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU NEED MORE TIME?
11:02:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, WE CAN DELAY IT A
BIT.
11:02:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DID YOU NEED MORE TIME?
11:02:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GET THROUGH THESE OTHER THINGS FIRST AND
BREAK FOR LUNCH, THIS WILL BE A LONG CONVERSATION.
11:02:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MEAN -- SO --
11:03:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS CHIEF TRIPP AVAILABLE NOW?
SHE IS ON HER WAY?
OKAY.
11:03:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE AN HOUR BEFORE LUNCH.
11:03:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT SHE IS NOT HERE YET.
LET'S START WITH 60 AND SEE HOW WE GO.
11:03:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 70 --
11:03:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
11:03:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY, WHILE WE AWAIT THE ARRIVAL OF
CHIEF TRIPP, IS IT ALL RIGHT IF WE TAKE 60 AND KEEP GOING
ON?
11:03:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
60, I DO -- THAT IS THE -- THE PACKAGE MISS
FEELEY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT.
I PLAN ON SPEAKING ABOUT THAT FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
11:03:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MISS FEELEY, AS WE AWAIT FOR CHIEF
TRIPP, WE WILL START JUST TO KEEP THINGS GOING.
ITEM 60.
11:03:42AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD MORNING, ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF
DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
ITEM NUMBER 60 ON YOUR AGENDA THIS MORNING IS A AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY AND ICF FOR $3.2 MILLION.
THIS IS THE SHIP MONEY AND ALSO SOME OTHER GRANT FUNDS THAT
COME IN, $3 MILLION IN SHIP AND $313,000 FOR US TO BE ABLE
TO ASSIST WITH HURRICANE RECOVERY.
I EXPLAIN THESE FUNDS TO YOU EARLIER, I BELIEVE, LAST MONTH
OF THE SHIP FUNDS, $3 MILLION.
SET ASIDES 30% FOR 50% AMI.
30% FOR 80% AMI.
AND THE REMAINDER COULD BE AT THE 140 AMI.
AND I DID PROVIDE IN THE MEMO THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS
ITEM, THE AREA MEDIAN INCOMES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE AMIs SO
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS WILL BE OF THE RESIDENTS WE
CAN SUPPORT WITH THESE FUNDS.
WHAT THIS DOES IS, THIS GETS US INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ICF
SO THAT WE CAN NOW FINALIZE THE ASPECTS OF EXPENDING THESE
FUNDS AND GETTING THEM TO THE RESIDENTS.
ONCE YOU SIGN THAT TODAY, WE ALREADY HAD A CALL WITH ICF
YESTERDAY TO EVEN -- TO START FINALIZING THE PREAPP ITEMS
AND THEN THE FINALIZED APPLICATION ITEMS.
AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT, I CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU ON THAT AS
WELL.
BUT WE WILL ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS AGREEMENT
THIS MORNING IN ORDER TO HAVE THESE FUNDS EXTENDED
BY A THIRD PARTY.
LIKE OUR ARPA FUNDS.
WE DID THIS WITH ERNST & YOUNG.
WE HAVE PEOPLE CALL IN THAT SAID THEY ARE IN TAMPA, BUT NOT
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE PARTNERED WITH THE COUNTY WHEN WE DID THIS WITH COVID,
BUT A WAY FOR US TO CONTINUE ON OUR REGULAR HOUSING PROGRAMS
AND HAVE SUPPORT FROM THIS THIRD PARTY.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:05:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:05:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
AND MISS FEELEY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
WE WORKED TOGETHER ON THIS FOR SOME TIME.
I REALLY, REALLY DO -- YOU WORKED A LOT ON THIS.
AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATED IT.
I WANT TO THANK -- I DIDN'T ASK ANYBODY FROM NORTH TAMPA TO
COME, JUST BECAUSE I -- I THINK THE THING SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
IF YOU HAVE SEEN THE VIDEOS OR YOU HAVE GONE OUT TO NORTH
TAMPA AND YOU SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE OR
SEEN ANY OF THE INTERVIEWS WHETHER IN THE MEDIA, THINGS THAT
I HAVE DONE, ETC., WITH PEOPLE OUT THERE.
THESE PEOPLE ARE REALLY HURTING, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO
THANK OBVIOUSLY BETH KEENEY WHO -- WHO SHE DOESN'T GET PAID
A DIME.
AND SHE HAS BEEN WORKING SO HARD WHO CAME OUT HERE.
AND I MET WITH HER AND HER HUSBAND WHO ARE REALLY, REALLY
GOOD PEOPLE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU MISS FEELEY AND THE MAYOR AND THE
ADMINISTRATION FOR WORKING ON THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABOUT 100 AND REFERRED TO
THIS, ABOUT 125 DAYS POST MILTON, AND THIS WILL RADICALLY
CHANGE THE FACE OF NORTH TAMPA, A WORKING-CLASS BLUE COLLAR
COMMUNITY IF WE DON'T INTERVENE LIBERALLY.
I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
I HAD ORIGINALLY MADE A MOTION OCTOBER 17 ABOUT A WEEK AFTER
MILTON CAME TO HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA LOOK AT SPENDING FUNDS
FOR HOUSING AND OTHER ASSISTANCE, BECAUSE I KNOW FEMA
CERTAINLY DOES THINGS.
AND WE APPRECIATE FEMA, BUT FEMA IS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY.
LIKE I ALWAYS SAY IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUY A SUIT, RIGHT,
FEMA WILL GIVE YOU THE TIE, THE BELT, MAYBE THE PANTS AND
YOU GOT TO GET THE REST.
WHEN YOU LOST EVERYTHING IN A HOUSE AND YOU ARE A WELDER OR
A TEACHER OR A FIRE FIGHTER AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT
$130,000 REBUILDING COST, THAT REMAINDER OF THAT SUIT COSTS
A WHOLE LOT.
IF GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THE
PEOPLE -- AND I AM TALKING OF NORTH TAMPA, THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER AREAS.
WE HEARD A LOT FROM OUR FRIENDS IN SOUTH TAMPA AND THE
TERRIBLE HITS THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN AND WERE OBVIOUSLY
SUPPORTIVE 100% THERE.
YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO, THEY ARE REALLY GOING
THROUGH HELL STILL.
YOU ARE ABOUT FOUR MONTHS PAST THIS HURRICANE, PAST MILTON,
WHICH WAS UNEXPECTED, VERY UNEXPECTED.
I REMEMBER -- I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS DURING THE PUMPS, BUT
TALKING TO THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING WHY DON'T WE HAVE
SANDBAG LOCATIONS.
BECAUSE IT IS NOT A FLOOD ZONE.
NOT UNREASONABLE, BY THE WAY.
NOT DOING THAT TO POINT THE FINGER.
BUT NOBODY ANTICIPATED FLOODING OUT THERE, MOST OF ALL, THE
PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THERE.
FOR ME, THIS SHOULD REALLY BE JUST THE BEGINNING ON THE
COMMITMENT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO THIS AREA TO ASSIST THEM.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NORTH TAMPA IS WHAT I CALL THE
BLUE COLLAR AND WORKING-CLASS BACKBONE OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
IT IS A PLACE FILLED WITH FIRST RESPONDERS, TEACHERS, WITH
WELDERS, WITH ELECTRICIANS, NURSES AND ETC.
AND ALSO, BY THE WAY, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELIEVE
THAT GOVERNMENT WILL FIGHT FOR THEM.
WHICH IS WHY SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.
YOU SEE THAT NATIONALLY.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE TONIGHT BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT WILL
FIGHT FOR THEM.
I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES IN NORTH TAMPA, THE MANY, MANY, MANY
PEOPLE THAT THINK TALK TO HAVE TAKEN LIFE'S WORST HITS OFTEN
BELIEVED THAT.
SO THIS, I THINK, IS A REAL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
BECAUSE I KNOW -- AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL IS FILLED WITH GOOD
PEOPLE WITH BIG HEARTS AND COMPASSIONATE.
AND I AM PRETTY SURE THAT WILL GET UNANIMOUS APPROVAL, BUT
THE ISSUE OF NORTH TAMPA IS NOT GOING AWAY.
NOT GOING AWAY ON A NUMBER OF LEVELS.
WE ARE TALKING DIFFERENTLY -- I KNOW I JUST MET WITH THE
CONSULTANT THAT WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO GET FOR THE
INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
THE ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY IS ONE ISSUE, BUT THE ISSUE OF,
NUMBER ONE, DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR PEOPLE LIKE MISS SELF
WHO CAME HERE.
I THINK OF THE TRAGEDIES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH.
MY FRIEND, GWEN TORREZ, THAT SOME OF US MAY HAVE SEEN ON THE
NEWS.
A WONDERFUL WOMAN, WHO HAS AN AUTISTIC SON AND GRANDSON.
SHE HAD A SENSORY ROOM IN HER HOUSE THAT SHE HAD TAILORED TO
HER GRANDSON WHO SHE TOOK CARE OF AND SHE WAS FLOODED OUT
AND GWEN HAD TO MOVE BECAUSE SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE
ANYMORE, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY HER
MORTGAGE.
AND SHE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY HER NEW RENT.
SHE GETS SOME HELP FROM FEMA AND TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT WILL
COST THEM $150,000.
GOTTEN $5,000, $10,000, $20,000, FAR OFF FROM WHAT THEY
NEED.
AND, AGAIN, THESE ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
TO ME, THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN TAMPA.
WE TALK A LOT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING
AND MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA, POST COVID, DOESN'T
TURN INTO MIAMI AND PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING-CLASS AND THE
MIDDLE CLASS AND PEOPLE WORKING FOR AND MARGINALIZING AND
STRUGGLING TO BE MIDDLE CLASS TO HAVE A SHOT OF HAVING A
HOUSE.
NORTH TAMPA IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE A SHOT AT
IT.
AND LIKE MISS SELF NOTED AND MISS KEENE NOTED, THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT CAN RADICALLY TRANSFORM THE FACE OF NORTH
TAMPA.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO THIS.
I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
I HOPE THAT PEOPLE STRONGLY SUPPORT IT.
BUT TO ME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD JUST BE THE BE
BEGINNING.
CAN I HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE, MR. CHAIR?
NO?
11:11:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, ONE MORE MINUTE.
11:11:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU MAY HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE, SIR.
11:11:40AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I KNOW.
11:11:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
11:11:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
GEE WHIZ -- LIKE I WAS SAYING.
AND IF I GO ON ABOUT THIS, IT IS BECAUSE I REPRESENT THIS
AREA.
AND I AM VERY, VERY -- I AM GOING TO BE HONEST -- LOOK, I
WILL BE HONEST.
I HAVE A CHIP ON MY SHOULDER ABOUT NORTH TAMPA.
I DO.
BECAUSE NORTH TAMPA DOESN'T GET THE KIND OF ATTENTION AND
RESPECT THAT OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY DO.
WE SEE THAT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
WE WILL SEE THAT WITH FIRE, WHERE WE HAD A STATION IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, STATION 13, OFF BUSCH BOULEVARD.
HAS ONE OUT OF 23 STATIONS, TOOK ONE OUT OF SEVEN CALLS HERE
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT NORTH TAMPA HAS TO DEAL WITH.
THIS AREA GOT AN UNANTICIPATED KICK RIGHT IN THE FACE.
AND IT HAS TAKEN US 125 DAYS TO GET MERE FOR $3 MILLION.
SO IF I AM A LITTLE BIT EMOTIONAL ABOUT THAT, IF I HAVE A
CHIP ON MY SHOULDER ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, I GOT CAUSE.
THANK YOU.
11:12:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
AND HURTAK AND CARLSON.
11:12:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA'S ADVOCACY TO THE DISTRICT HE REPRESENTS.
IT IS ADMIRABLE AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU
REPRESENT A DISTRICT.
FIGHT LIKE HELL FOR YOUR DISTRICT.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I AM ELECTED CITYWIDE AND THE ACT BY GOD AND HURRICANES WERE
DEVASTATING FOR SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS AND WORKING-CLASS
NEIGHBORHOODS.
PEOPLE FORGET THERE ARE AREAS -- YOU KNOW, PALMETTO BEACH.
WE HAVE AREAS SOUTH OF GANDY.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE TALK OUTSIDE THE CITY -- THE CITY
DISTRICTS ALONG THE RIVER AND A LOT OF WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE
JUST HORRIBLY HARMED.
I, TOO, WAS UP IN FOREST HILLS RIGHT AFTER THE STORM, AND I
TOURED FOLKS' HOUSES AND WENT TO MY CAR AND CRIED WHEN I
WENT THROUGH A FAMILY'S HOUSE WITH A MOTHER, FATHER AND KID.
AND THEY DID NOT HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE.
THEY -- THEY COULDN'T AFFORD TO GO ANYWHERE.
DIDN'T HAVE THE HELP AND DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AT THAT
TIME AND THEY WERE LIVING IN A FLOODED HOME WITH EVERYTHING
SOGGY ON MATTRESSES THAT WERE ELEVATED AND ONLY -- I WILL
CRY RIGHT NOW THINKING ABOUT IT, IT WAS SO BAD.
AN AWFUL SITUATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY OF TAMPA WE ARE ONLY SO BIG, SO MUCH
RESOURCES AND SO MUCH OF THIS IS WHERE WE ARE DEPENDENT.
THIS IS THE THING OF THE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT.
YOU KNOW, WHY WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS THE
GOVERNMENT -- YOU KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TO STAND
UP TO EMERGENCIES.
WE HAVE SHARED -- WE HAVE SHARED RESOURCES TO SHARE THE
BURDEN OF THESE TYPE OF STORMS.
YOU KNOW FEMA -- THEY HAVE THE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE FOR THE
SHORT-TERM STUFF AND DIFFICULT TO GET THE COMMUNICATION OUT
RIGHT AWAY PART OF WHAT WE SAW AFTER THESE HURRICANES IS
WHEN WE STOOD UP AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT DID -- TRIED TO
COORDINATE AND CONNECT, AND I THINK US AS MEMBERS OF
COUNCIL, WE TRY TO CONNECT COMMUNITY TO RESOURCES THAT WERE
AVAILABLE.
AND I THINK IT IS ADMIRABLE.
I THINK THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS REALLY RISEN ABOVE AND BEYOND
LEVEL OF EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT A CITY CAN REASONABLY BE
EXPECTED TO DO WITH SOMETHING AS DEVASTATING AS AN ACT OF
GOD AND THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE BACK-TO-BACK STORMS.
ON TOP OF THE PREVIOUS RAIN EVENTS WE HAD PRIOR THAT CREATED
SOME OF THIS -- SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
AGAIN, THIS, I THINK, WAS VERY CREATIVE.
I APPLAUD STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S ADVOCACY FOR THIS
AND STAFF TO DIG DEEP BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU GOT ALL THESE OTHER
PROGRAMS IN FEDERAL AND STATE BUT NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING
THAT THE CITY IS EQUIPPED TO DO, BUT THEY DUG DEEP.
REALLY SCRATCHED -- SCRATCHED EVERYTHING THEY COULD FIND TO
FIND THESE RESOURCES.
OBVIOUSLY NOT ENOUGH.
I MEAN 100 TIMES THIS IS NOT ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE FOR THE
FOLKS THAT HAVE LOST THINGS AND THE NEED AND THE HURT THAT
IS EXISTED IN THE CITY.
BUT AT LEAST IT IS SOMETHING.
AGAIN, I APPLAUD STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I OBVIOUSLY -- I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL IS
GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT THING TO DO.
BUT THANK YOU.
AND I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF HURT IN THE CITY.
AND I FEEL BAD FOR EVERYONE.
AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO OVERCOME THIS.
AND WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED.
WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA THERE
STEP UP AND DO THEIR FAIR SHARE TO HELP PUT SOME OF THESE
PEOPLE TO RIGHT AND MOVE FORWARD AND REBUILD OUR CITY.
THANK YOU.
11:15:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CARLSON AND
MIRANDA.
11:16:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO COMMEND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FOR
HIS ADVOCACY ON THIS AND AN INCREDIBLE ISSUE.
I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MISS FEELEY AND REALLY WHAT I AM
HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOUR OFFICE HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY
TO FIND SHIP FUNDING AND RE-CREATING IT WAS REALLY
WONDERFUL.
AND YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES THAT DOES TAKE A
LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
CAN YOU COME AND SPEAK TO WHAT THE RESIDENTS CAN EXPECT
COMING FORWARD?
A TIMELINE FOR HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE THIS -- THIS PARTNER TO
COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, A PHONE NUMBER FOR FOLKS TO REACH
OUT TO.
BECAUSE THE QUESTION I KEEP GETTING ASKED IS WHAT IS NEXT.
THIS WILL PROVIDE US WITH WHAT COMES NEXT.
AND I THINK THIS WILL MAKE THE COMMUNITY FEELING BETTER AND
WILL ALSO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO EXPECT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW.
11:16:51AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
BUT I AM HOPING THAT IT WILL HAPPEN VERY
SOON.
I WAS ON A CALL THIS MORNING ACTUALLY WHEN WE COULD GET THAT
SCHEDULE FINALIZED.
I DO NOT HAVE THAT FOR YOU THIS MORNING OR I WOULD BE VERY
EAGER TO SHARE IT WITH YOU.
SO, LIKE I SAID, WE ALREADY HAD A CALL WITH THE COMPANY
YESTERDAY AS TO OUTLINING THOSE NEXT STEPS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I HOPE WE WERE WORKING ON FOLLOW-UP WITH
THAT THIS MORNING.
THAT IS WHY I AM LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION THAT CAME IN.
BY MARCH 15, I MEAN, ABOUT A MONTH FROM TODAY, STARTING THE
PREAPP SCREENING.
DO YOU LIVE IN THE CITY?
OKAY.
YOU KNOW, ARE YOU INCOME ELIGIBLE?
OR WHAT IS YOUR INCOME?
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
THE INTENTION A VERY SHORT PREAPPLICATION SCREENING THAT
WILL THEN BECOME THE FULL APPLICATION ONCE YOU PASS THOSE
FIRST FIVE QUESTIONS.
AND WE WOULD GO FROM THERE.
SO WHAT I NEED IS ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO WORK WITH ICF TO GET
THAT SCHEDULE FINALIZED TO COME IN HERE AND TELL YOU.
YES, THERE WILL BE A PHONE NUMBER, BUT I THINK THAT IS ONE
OF THE THINGS WHILE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS BEEN PASSIONATE
PUSHING THIS, I COME BACK TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO PUT OUT
SOMETHING THAT IS HALF-BAKED BECAUSE THAT IS NOT FAIR TO OUR
RESIDENT AND I AM STILL STANDING ON THAT POSITION.
SO I AM GOING TO GET THOSE DETAILS, AND I WILL GET THEM BACK
TO YOU.
BUT I HOPE BY MARCH 15 AT THE LATEST -- AT THE LATEST, APRIL
1st, TO HAVE A FULL SYSTEM UP AND OPERATING WHERE THEY ARE
CALLING IN.
AND WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT HAVING A COMMUNITY NIGHT OR A
WEEKLY NIGHT AT HANNA.
IF PEOPLE NEED TO WALK IN AND GET ASSISTANCE DIRECTLY FROM
OUR STAFF IN FILLING OUT THE APPLICATIONS OR THEY DON'T HAVE
A COMPUTER.
WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL AS A
COMMUNICATIONS PLAN TO ENSURE THAT THE INFORMATION IS
GETTING OUT TO EVERYONE.
11:18:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
AND THEN ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION.
AS WE ARE WAITING FOR THIS, WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION CAN
PEOPLE BEGIN TO GATHER?
11:19:03AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
SO THESE FUNDS ARE RIGHT NOW GOING TO
SUPPORT MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.
I THINK ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA JUST
SPOKE ABOUT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE PAYING
TWO RENTS.
THEY ARE PAYING THEIR MORTGAGE AND PAYING TO LIVE AS WELL.
THIS WILL ALLOW MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE UP TO $5,000.
ALSO REPAIRS.
IF YOU HIRED A CONTRACT AND ALREADY PAID YOUR REPAIRS AND
PERMITTED THEM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOME REIMBURSEMENT
ON THAT.
WE ARE WORKING OUT THE TIME PERIOD FOR THAT.
SO PEOPLE KNOW.
AND THEN ALSO, INSURANCE DEDUCTIBLES.
IF YOU HAD TO PAY YOUR DEDUCTIBLE.
AND THERE WILL BE A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP STATEMENT THEY WILL
NEED TO BE FILLING OUT TO SHOW.
AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, GIVEN THESE ARE SHIP FUNDS AND
SHIP DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS, THOSE INCOME QUALIFICATIONS AND
THAT'S THE -- THE CHART IS IN THERE THAT WE DO HAVE CERTAIN
AMOUNTS OF THESE FUND THAT BY THE STATE, THE WAY THE FUNDS
HAVE COME FROM THE STATE, THEY HAVE TO GO TO INDIVIDUALS OF
CERTAIN INCOMES.
AND THEN UP TO IT THE 140, A PORTION OF THAT THAT IS
UNRESTRICTED BUT RESTRICTIVE UP TO THE 140 AMI.
11:20:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE THAT FOR TELLING WHAT PEOPLE CAN
EXPECT.
BUT AS THEY ARE WAITING, WHAT KIND OF DOCUMENTATION DO
PEOPLE NEED TO BE GATHERING.
SOUND LIKE THEY NEED TO GATHER THEIR MORTGAGE INFORMATION.
THEY NEED TO HAVE RECEIPTS.
11:20:42AM >> INCOME STATEMENTS.
11:20:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GATHER ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL INFORMATION
SURROUNDING THIS.
11:20:49AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES.
11:20:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONLY THING ADDITIONALLY I WANT TO MENTION IS
THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING IN FEBRUARY WHERE WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WAS LEFT OVER FROM FY '24.
AND SO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER TIME THAT WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT WE
CAN POSSIBLY -- IF WE CAN PUT MORE MONEY TOWARD THIS.
SO THANK YOU.
11:21:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND MIRANDA.
11:21:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MISS FEELEY, FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SO FAR,
PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THINK YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN NEW TAMPA
OR NORTH TAMPA TO QUALIFY FOR THIS.
REQUEST YOU STATE ON THE RECORD --
11:21:20AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THESE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE CITYWIDE.
YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE HAD STORM DAMAGE CLEARLY.
AND WE HAVE -- PER OUR POST-STORM ASSESSMENT, WE HAVE IDEAS
AND WE KNOW, BECAUSE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND INSPECTION
STAFF DID GO THROUGH THE CITY, LOT BY LOT, AND WE HAVE A
WINDSHIELD SURVEY OF THOSE AREAS THAT WERE HIT.
YOU CAN'T -- IF YOU ARE IN A HIGH AND DRY AREA, THIS ISN'T
-- I MEAN WE HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS FOR.
11:21:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW.
THE MAXIMUM -- FOR PEOPLE WHO APPLY FOR THIS, MAXIMUM FOR
RENT IS $5,000.
IS THAT TOTAL OR PER MONTH?
11:22:01AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT WILL BE TOTAL.
THE MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.
NOT RENTAL.
THIS IS NOT FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
11:22:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOR REPAIR, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM?
11:22:10AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
RIGHT NOW THE MAXIMUM FOR REPAIR WILL
$20,000.
11:22:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
$20,000.
CAN THEY GET BOTH OR JUST ONE?
11:22:18AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I BELIEVE THEY CAN GET BOTH.
11:22:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT ABOUT THE DEDUCTIBLE, WHAT IS THE
MAXIMUM ON THAT?
11:22:26AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THE DEDUCTIBLE IS $10,000.
11:22:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNEW IF YOU
DON'T LIVE IN NORTH TAMPA OR NEW TAMPA, YOU CAN -- THERE
WERE PEOPLE AFFECTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE AFFECTED IN SOUTH TAMPA.
AND CONTRARY TO SOME PEOPLE'S PERCEPTION OF SOUTH TAMPA,
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BELOW 100% AMI.
WE HAD SOME HERE LAST WEEK AND ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF GANDY,
BUT ALSO WEST OF DALE MABRY, TOWARD GANDY, THERE ARE
HUNDREDS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE -- LIVE BELOW THE
POVERTY LINE.
AND MANY OF THEM DON'T HAVE INSURANCE.
PORT TAMPA, THEIR HISTORIC AFRICAN-AMERICAN FOLKS THERE
WHOSE HOUSES THEY HAVE INHERITED MULTIPLE GENERATIONS
AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE BECAUSE -- BECAUSE THEY HAVE
OWNED THE HOUSE.
BECAUSE THEIR GREAT GRANDFATHER AND GREAT GRANDPARENTS OWNED
THE HOUSE.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CAREFUL NOT TO JUST TARGET ONE
AREA.
AND ALSO NURSES AND POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE FIGHTERS.
NICK STOCCO LIVES SOUTH OF GANDY.
AND THERE ARE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE IN OUR MILITARY AND
RETIRED FROM OUR MILITARY WHO LOST EVERYTHING.
AND MANY OF THEM LIVE -- LIVE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.
I AM DISAPPOINTED WITH THE MAYOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION THEY
HAVEN'T SPENT MORE TIME IN SOUTH TAMPA.
THEY SPENT MOST OF THE TIME IN NEW TAMPA AND TO PROMOTE A
$130 MILLION PROJECT IN SOUTH HOWARD THAT WE KNOW HOW IS NOT
GOING TO WORK.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PAY ATTENTION TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
REALLY BARELY SURVIVING AND NOT GOING TO SURVIVE IN SOUTH
TAMPA.
TO THE POINT ABOUT SANDBAGS.
A GOOD POINT.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN SANDBAGS IN NEW TAMPA, BUT ONLY TWO PLACES
IN THE SECOND HURRICANE FOR SANDBAGS.
THERE WERE NO TARPS.
AND THAT PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA, THE LINES WERE FIVE HOURS
LONG BECAUSE IS IT NOT HAVE ENOUGH SAND.
USING THE MACHINES.
WE HAD A SHORTAGE OF SAND THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IT
ESPECIALLY WITH FEMA'S HELP.
THOSE IN SOUTH COMPANY WENT TO EAST TAMPA AND THOSE LINES
WERE FOUR OR FIVE HOURS LONG AND WE NEED TO FIX THESE
PROBLEMS NEXT TIME.
MORE IMPORTANTLY WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT MONEY, IF WE PAY TO
REPAIR PEOPLE'S HOUSES, THEIR HOUSE WILL FLOP AGAIN BECAUSE
WE HAVEN'T FIXED THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS.
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF NOT BILLIONS TOWARD MAINTENANCE.
WE NEED TO PUT MONEY TOWARD MAINTENANCE BECAUSE EVEN IF
PEOPLE PAID TO RENOVATE THEIR HOMES, THEIR FLOODS ARE GOING
TO COME RIGHT BACK IN AND HIT THEM.
WE HAVE TO FIX THE UNDERLYING PROBLEMS.
IF WE HAVE A CHOICE, PEOPLE NEED MONEY FOR THEIR OWN HOMES,
BUT DOESN'T DO GOOD IF WE REPAIR THEM AND FLOOD THE NEXT
WEEK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO PROPER MAINTENANCE.
THIS $3 MILLION IS SYMBOLIC EFFORT AND NOT ENOUGH AND BARELY
GOING TO TOUCH ANYBODY.
AND THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SOLVE THIS.
WE HAVE GOT TO FIND -- WE HAVE A TEAM OF LOBBYISTS AND
LOBBYISTS IN THE CITY AND WE NEED TO FIND OTHER SOURCES OF
FUND.
YOU ARE WORKING WITH A FEDERAL AGENCY HERE.
BUT FEMA MONEY ISN'T ENOUGH.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM
BECAUSE THE CITY -- EVEN IF WE USE ALL OF OUR BUDGET NOT
ENOUGH TO MAKE EVERYBODY HOLD.
WE NODE TO FIND A WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, SOLVE THE MAINTENANCE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE
DON'T FLOOD AGAIN.
THANK YOU.
11:25:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:25:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WANT TO GIVE SINCERE THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUE, LUIS VIERA.
SEVEN COUNCILMEMBERS.
FOUR IN THE DISTRICT AND THREE AT LARGE.
ALL OF US ARE RESPONSIBLE WHAT HAPPENS.
NOT JUST ONE PLACE.
EVERYBODY WORKS TO GET IT DONE.
HOWEVER, AS I LISTEN TO THE CONVERSATION, THERE IS ONE THING
MISSING.
WE ARE REPAIRING THE HOUSES THE SAME WAY THEY WERE.
THAT'S GREAT.
BUT IT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF FLOODING.
YOU MAY PUT ALL THE SANDBAG YOU WANT IN FRONT OF YOUR DOOR,
BUT YOU CAN'T PUT THEM ON A WINDOW TWO AND A HALF FEET OFF
THE GROUND.
STILL GOING TO FLOOD.
IF IT GOES TO TWO AND A HALF FEET.
SO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORLD OF CHANGE -- LAST
YEAR ALONE, THE BAY WAS 2.5 DEGREES HOTTER THAN EVER BEFORE.
JUST YESTERDAY, I AM LISTENING TO THE NEWS, AND BASED ON
TODAY'S -- COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S, IT IS ALREADY THREE
DEGREES OR FOUR AND A HALF DEGREES IN DIFFERENT AREAS
HOTTER.
SO HURRICANES ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.
AND ALL MY TIME LIVING HERE, I NEVER SEEN SIX OR SEVEN COME
THIS WAY.
THEY USUALLY GET IN THE GULF AND GO THE OTHER WAY, WEST.
THEY CAME EAST.
SO THINGS ARE CHANGING.
AND IT IS GOING TO GET HARDER AND HARDER TO SUSTAIN THE
LIFESTYLE THAT WE HAVE.
WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO PUT -- THE DRYWALL PEOPLE WILL COME
AFTER ME.
DRYWALL IN ANY BUILDING BECAUSE LIKE A SPONGE.
IF IT GOES A FEET AND A HALF, IT TRAVELS UP ANOTHER FOOT.
YOU CAN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE EAVES ON YOUR HOUSE.
YOU CAN'T IT CONTINUE TO DO THINGS WE ARE DOING BECAUSE THAT
IS THE WAY WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE IT.
THE CODE HAS GOT TO CHANGE.
THE BUILDING HAS GOT TO CHANGE THE WAY WE BUILD THINGS.
BECAUSE WE CAN NOT SUSTAIN WHAT IS COMING.
IT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE.
NORTH FLORIDA HAD SNOW, COUPLE OF INCHES.
WHEN HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED?
YOU GO UP TO CALIFORNIA, THEY HAVE HAD MULTITUDE OF
PROBLEMS.
IN FACT, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT -- THAT I READ ABOUT HAVE
-- A GREAT PERCENT -- I CAN'T SAY HALF, BUT A GREAT
PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE ARE RELOCATING FROM CALIFORNIA AND
TEXAS.
AND INCLUDING FLORIDA.
WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING HOW TO
SOLVE IT.
WE TRY TO FIX IT WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND THAT'S IT.
THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
I AM NOT TRYING TO PREACH TO EVERYONE.
IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THINGS, YOU WILL NEVER
SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
NEVER.
BUT LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I -- I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HOOK AT THE BUILDING CODES.
I BELIEVE WE LOOK HOW WE BUILD ROOFS.
ANY ISLAND YOU HAVE OF KEY WEST, BAHAMAS, CUBA.
DON'T HAVE ROOFS THAT ARE MADE LIKE OURS.
THEY DON'T HAVE IT OVERHANG WHERE THE WIND PICKS IT UP AND
THE WALLS COLLAPSE.
WATER FROM THE OUTSIDE AND WATER RISING FROM THE FLOOR.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.
WHY?
THAT IS THE WAY THEY BUILT THEM TO COMBAT THE STORMS.
THEY DON'T HAVE DRYWALL BUT HAVE CEMENT.
WHEN IT GETS RENT, YOU LET IT DRY AND PAINT IT.
NOT THAT SIMPLE, BUT IT IS DONE.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE ROOF THAT FALLS OFF.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE SHINGLES THAT FALL OFF BECAUSE CONCRETE
AND REBAR WIRE ALL OVER THE HOUSE WHEN IT IS BUILT.
AND IT WON'T COME APART.
WHAT I AM SAYING EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE DONE WONDERFUL THINGS
TO THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE TO LOOK TO THE LONG TERM.
I HOPE MY PROJECTIONS ARE WRONG.
THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANY BETTER.
WILL PROBABLY GET WORSE.
11:29:50AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
CAN I?
11:29:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
11:29:53AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ABBYE FEELEY.
I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING.
A MAXIMUM OF $20,000 PER HOUSEHOLD.
YOU CAN GET FUNDS FROM BOTH BUT CANNOT EXCEED $20,000 TOTAL.
11:30:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:30:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE A QUESTION, MISS FEELEY, MORTGAGE
PAYMENTS MUST NOT BE 30 DAYS.
IF SOMEBODY A BEHIND IN THEIR MORTGAGE, THEY WILL BE
PRECLUDED?
11:30:16AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT'S CORRECT.
11:30:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHY IS THAT?
11:30:20AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I BELIEVE IT IS A STATE -- BECAUSE WE HAVE
-- AND THIS KIND OF BRINGS EVERYTHING BACK TOGETHER.
BUT WHEN WE BRING YOUR ACTION PLAN TO YOU FOR HOUSING, THAT
IS WHERE THESE STRATEGY GOES.
SO THE STRATEGIES ARE GOVERNED BY THE STATE IN TERMS OF WHEN
WE PUT THEM IN.
WE ACTUALLY AMENDED THIS.
BECAUSE THESE ARE STATE FUND, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE.
SO I HAVE MET.
WE HAVE FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS.
ONE IN PORT TAMPA -- WE WERE IN PORT TAMPA TUESDAY NIGHT.
WE HAD ABOUT 60 PEOPLE.
JC WAS IN COPELAND PARK LAST NIGHT.
I THINK WE HAD TEN PEOPLE.
A WEEK PRIOR, PALMETTO BEACH AND BABE ZAHARIAS, FOREST HILLS
AREA LAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF
THEM ARE PAYING BOTH RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK THIS WILL BE HELPFUL IN THAT ASPECT.
I MEAN, I MET A WOMAN WHO WAS STILL PAYING HER MORTGAGE AND
RENTING A SMALL SHED FROM ANOTHER PERSON TO BE RESIDING IN.
SO WE HAVE BEEN OUT LISTENING.
I THINK THESE FUNDS WILL WORK THAT WAY.
BUT IT WILL ALLOW US TO HELP GET THEM CAUGHT UP IN MOVING
FORWARD.
11:31:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I THINK -- IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, DOES --
11:31:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, DO YOU WANT TO
SPEAK, MA'AM?
PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU IS SHE MUTED?
OR DO WE HAVE HER MUTED?
11:32:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA CAN SPEAK.
11:32:14AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS.
WITH NORTH TAMPA AND THE SOUTH TAMPA THING, RIGHT.
I HAPPEN TO REPRESENT NORTH TAMPA.
NORTH TAMPA GOT FLOODED.
NEW TAMPA WAS NOT FLOODED AT ALL, THE NORTHERN SIDE MORE SO
BUT AN OLD TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, WHATEVER DID IT.
WITH REGARDS TO THE COMMENT OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S FUNNY -- I WILL BE HONEST, I HAD A LOT OF BACK AND
FORTH WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OVER THE LAST 120 DAYS, NOT
ALL YOU HAVE IT HAS BEEN PLEASANT, RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE HAD SOME DISAGREEMENTS AND CAUSTIC CONVERSATIONS.
AND -- BUT WE ARE HERE WITH THIS $3 MILLION AND I
SAY CAUSTIC CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE STRESSFUL OVER THE LAST
FEW MONTHS AS THE DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND SEE THESE PEOPLE -- GOOD PEOPLE EVERYWHERE.
TAKING UNANTICIPATED HITS.
TIME WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION WAS OUT THERE WAS OFTEN IN TOWN
HALL MEETINGS THAT I CALLED FOR.
AND BECAUSE -- IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF SOUTH TAMPA OR
EVERYWHERE ELSE.
I FRANKLY SAID FOUR DAYS AFTER THIS UNANTICIPATED FLOOD AND
HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH 200, 250 PEOPLE OUT THERE.
A LOT OF THAT IS AS THE COUNCILMEMBER I PUSH THINGS A LOT.
AGAIN, FOR THIS, I SALUTE THE MAYOR 100%.
I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL.
A COUPLE OF THINGS REALLY FAST WHICH I MAY.
I HAVE ASKED HAGER WHO DOES SUCH A GOOD JOB FOR US TO LOOK
AT ADDITIONAL FUND AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE MAY
LOOK LIKE.
IN TERMS OF THIS BEING AN ACT OF GOD.
I WANT TO BE SURE BECAUSE, AGAIN, I REPRESENT THIS AREA AND
WHERE WE HAVE THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW FOR AND I WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS THERE.
AGAIN, WE GOT TO FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT FOR PEOPLE LIKE THIS
EVERYWHERE.
WHETHER IT IS FOR SOUTH TAMPA.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, IT IS REALLY LIKE A LOT OF
WORKING-CLASS, BLUE-COLLAR IN SOUTH COMPANY AND WE NEED
TO HAVE THEIR BACKS FOLLOWING THIS HURRICANE.
11:34:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
LET'S SEE -- STILL MUTED.
11:34:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL SECOND.
11:34:23AM >>CLERK:
SHE IS UH-UH -- UNMUTED.
11:34:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MICROPHONE THAT IS UNPLUGGED?
BUILT IN?
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:34:45AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:34:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:34:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:34:54AM >>CLERK:
HENDERSON?
11:34:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHE IS SEEING YES AND THUMB'S UP.
IS THAT LEGALLY SUFFICIENT?
11:35:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
BECAUSE IT IS AN AUDIO RECORDING.
IT IS -- THERE ARE DISADVANTAGES TO REMOTE PARTICIPATION, I
HAVE TO SHARE THAT.
BUT THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS.
11:35:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:35:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:35:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:35:23AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:35:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
11:35:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE 30 MINUTES LEFT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS ENOUGH FOR -- FOR A ROBUST
CONVERSATION.
I JUST WANTED TO GET ANYBODY ELSE'S FEEL ON THAT.
11:35:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I -- WANT TO BREAK AT 12:30, I THINK AN
HOUR.
11:35:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL --
11:35:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LOOK TO BREAKING FOR LUNCH.
11:35:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MIGHT BE A TWO-HOUR CONVERSATION.
11:36:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EXCUSE ME, CHAIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
11:36:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, WE CAN.
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
11:36:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WELL, THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE A VOICE IN THIS PROCESS.
I APPRECIATE IT.
11:36:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, IT POSSIBLE TO REOPEN TO HAVE
HER RECORDED TO VOTE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE VOTE AND ALLOW COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON TO TALK AND REVOTE.
11:36:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:36:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR GO
AHEAD AND VOTE.
11:36:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE COMMENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AS WELL
AS MISS FEELEY AND HER STAFF.
THE IMPACT IS -- SADLY IT IS LOW IF IT IS $5,000 TO 640
PEOPLE.
IF IT IS $20,000, IT IS 160 PEOPLE.
SO I KNOW IT IS NOT SIGNIFICANT, BUT IT IS A START.
YOU KNOW, IT IS THE CITY'S WAY OF CONTRIBUTING TO, YOU KNOW,
GIVING SOME RELIEF TO PEOPLE.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN THIS.
11:36:59AM >>CLERK:
YOU WANT ME TO DO THE ROLL CALL AGAIN?
11:37:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE DON'T NEED TO CLOSE.
BUT WE HAVE -- IT IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO --
11:37:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN?
11:37:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES?
11:37:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY ON THE RECORD.
A ROLL CALL VOTE ON A BIG TICKET ITEM SUCH AS THIS, BEST
INTEREST TO DO A ROLL CALL.
11:37:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL HAVE A MOTION -- WHO WAS THE
ORIGINAL MOTION MAKER FOR 60.
11:37:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GUESS I WAS --
11:37:33AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WAS.
11:37:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VIERA.
11:37:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:37:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:37:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
11:37:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:37:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:37:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:37:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:37:49AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:37:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
22 AND 67.
YOU ASKED FOR THEM TO BE HEARD FIRST.
11:37:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE I HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND ETC.
IS THERE A PRESENTATION OR -- WITH CHIEF TRIPP.
MR. MUTTERBACK.
IF NOT, I CAN GO TO QUESTIONS.
11:38:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE HAS A WRITTEN REPORT.
DO YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF?
11:38:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
I DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
WELL, COME, MR. MUTTERBACK OBVIOUSLY -- WHEN I DID THIS AND
THIS IS A VERY -- I HAVE VERY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS
ISSUE, SO I WANTED TO MEET BEFORE TO GO OVER MY STRONG
FEELINGS TO -- TO GIVE FOLKS A CHANCE TO NUMBER ONE PREPARE
THE RIGHT RESPONSE.
AND JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT, BUT I -- I WANT TO GO THROUGH --
SO WE ARE DEALING WITH FLEET MAINTENANCE WHICH -- I -- I
THINK THERE IS SOME NEWS ON, IF I AM CORRECT.
AND THEN WITH STATION 24, WHICH HAD A -- HAD A RELATIVELY
LONG JOURNEY IN PITS PRESENT VERSION.
IN 2023, WE PASSED DESIGN FOR STATION 24.
THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT THE ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO DO THEIR
1.0 MILLAGE TAX INCREASE.
I HAD PROPOSED SCALING IT BACK 70% AND HAVING THAT FULL
POINT GOING TO POLICE AND FIRE.
DIDN'T GET SUPPORT FOR THAT.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
WE GO FORWARD AND I SAID LISTEN, IF WE CAN'T DO ONGOING
REVENUE FOR THIS, WE ARE GOING TO BOND IT.
I DID A MOTION FOR THAT.
AND IT WOULD WIND UP PASSING.
ONE YEAR AGO -- IT WAS ABOUT ONE YEAR AGO, WE FINALIZED THE
MECHANISM OF WHICH HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COULD USE FUNDS
FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE AND FIRE STATION 24.
SO WHAT -- WHAT IS INTERESTING IS, IS THAT WE ARE HERE ABOUT
A YEAR AND A HALF PAST THE TIME WHERE WE, I BELIEVE, FUNDED
CAN HE SIGN.
ROUGHLY AROUND SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
AND I HAD THOUGHT THAT DESIGN WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS -- WAS
SUBSTANTIALLY FINISHED.
I SPOKE WITH MR. STOCCO AND HE DID AS WELL, CERTAIN
ASSUMPTIONS, ETC.
I GUESS MY MESSAGE IS THAT COUNCIL EMPOWERED EVERYBODY WITH
THE TOOLS THAT ARE NEEDED WHAT CHIEF TRIPP WAS PUSHING HARD
FOR.
AND WE HAD A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND ASKED CHIEF TRIPP WHEN
IT COMES TO BONDING, WHAT ARE YOUR TWO BIG PRIORITIES.
YOU SAID FLEET MAINTENANCE AND STATION 24.
WE RUN WITH YOUR VISION, CHIEF.
AND APPRECIATE YOUR VIGOR IN THAT REGARD.
HERE WE ARE A YEAR AND A HALF YEAR LATER.
WE GET A NEW TIMELINE THAT SHOW GROUNDBREAKING IN MARCH OF
2026.
WHICH IS GOING TO BE -- WHAT IS IT -- TWO AND A HALF YEARS
AFTER WE APPARENTLY PASSED DESIGN.
AND QUESTIONS IN THAT.
AND ALSO WHAT IS UNIQUE IS -- AND I'M GIVING OUT ALL THE
INFORMATION BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.
OBVIOUSLY IT IS MY DISTRICT.
AND WE HAD -- I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD STATION OF NEW
TAMPA.
HAD TO STATION 25 IN NORTH TAMPA.
AND 24.
25 COMES AFTER 24 FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
BUT THIS WAS A COMPROMISE.
BECAUSE THERE WERE FOLKS IN THE UNION WHO SAID, WE WOULD
LIKE A DIFFERENT LOCATION THAN THAT THIS.
SO WE -- GUESS WHAT, WE GOT THE LAND.
SO WE MOVE WITH VIGOR.
RIGHT.
AND HERE WE ARE.
SO THAT IS A LOT OF WHERE THE FRUSTRATION IS.
AND I COULD GO THROUGH -- WE HAD -- GOSH, I THINK WE HAD
SEVEN OR EIGHT MOTIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF ON
STATION 24, INCLUDING, I THINK, QUARTERLY REPORTS.
SO I GUESS THAT'S -- THAT FORMS THE BASIS OF MY QUESTIONS, I
GUESS.
AND MR. MUTTERBACK, IF YOU COULD.
AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS, SIR.
IF YOU COULD, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE LAND SURVEY
EVALUATION AND ETC. THAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE -- AND WE WILL
START SEPTEMBER 2023.
IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN OPINE ON.
11:41:56AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, RICHARD
MUTTERBACK, DIRECTOR OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
GO THROUGH A LITTLE PROGRESS TIMELINE HERE.
SO CONTRACT ADMIN'S INVOLVEMENT STARTED APRIL 2023 WHEN THE
CITY AND FIRE HAD THIS PROPERTY.
AND WANTED TO LOOK TO SEE IF IT IS FEASIBLE FOR A FIRE
STATION.
SO WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH OTERO ENGINEERING IN
APRIL, AND THAT AGREEMENT HAD FIVE MONTHS ALLOTTED FOR THOSE
STUDIES.
AND -- AND THE FIRST STORMWATER PLAN WAS GIVEN TO US IN
AUGUST.
AND WE HAD SOME CORRECTIONS AND REVISED IN OCTOBER AND THE
FINAL SITE INVESTIGATION REPORT DELIVERED TO US IN NOVEMBER.
SO SLIGHTLY -- SLIGHTLY OVER THE FIVE-MONTH ANTICIPATION.
AT THAT POINT, ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN HAND ALREADY
THAT IS WHEN THE CITY, FIRE, ADMINISTRATION DECIDE, OKAY, WE
HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS PROPERTY IS FEASIBLE.
DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BUILDING A STATION HERE
THROUGH NOVEMBER THROUGH MAY.
CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION WAS, AGAIN, INVOLVED IN PREPARING
FOR A DESIGN-BUILD RFQ TO GO OUT.
WHAT THAT ENTAILS IS INVESTIGATION -- I MEAN, INTERVIEW
PROCESS BETWEEN MY AMONG ARCHITECT STAFF AND TFR TO SEE WHAT
TO YOU NEED HERE?
WHAT DO YOU WANT HERE?
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR?
THE DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGES FOR THE RFQs.
WHAT THE SUBMITTING FIRMS HAD TO GO OFF OF.
WHAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTING.
WE ARE PUSHING A LOT MORE OF PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENTS AND THOSE
SORT OF THINGS TO GET A MORE REASONABLE COST.
MORE REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE CAN EXPECT ON THESE
LARGER PROJECTS SO YOU HAVE GOT -- IN THAT TIME FRAME
BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND APRIL, WE PUT TOGETHER THAT DESIGN
CRITERIA PACKAGE.
MAY, IT WAS ADVERTISED.
ADVERTISEMENT PERIOD ALWAYS TAKES FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AT BEST
TO GET THROUGH.
STATE STATUTE.
CERTAIN DEADLINES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THERE.
NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
WHICH GOT US THROUGH AUGUST.
AND ALL THIS IS STILL TYPICAL TIMELINE.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO REAL DELAYS AT THIS POINT.
WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS IN AUGUST FROM FOUR DIFFERENT FIRMS.
FROM THOSE FOUR FIRMS, ONE WAS RECOMMENDED TO THE MAYOR FOR
SELECTION, SELECTED J. KOKOLAKIS.
APPROVED THAT SELECTION.
AND WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING IN LATE AUGUST.
FROM AUGUST UNTIL DECEMBER, THAT IS WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON
-- THAT IS WHERE WE START THIS INITIAL AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF
YOU ITEM 22.
THAT IS WHEN THAT NEXT AND SCOPE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE
FIRM AND TFR AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION HAPPENS.
KEEP IN MIND THOUGH BETWEEN THAT TIME FRAME, IT IS USUALLY A
TWO OR THREE-MONDAY PROCESS.
ANY DELAY THERE, TWO STORMS.
AND FIRE IS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
BUT STILL IF -- FROM THAT POINT -- I MEAN -- AND JUST, IF I
MAY --
11:45:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
TAKE YOUR TIME, PLEASE.
11:45:18AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
SO THIS DOCUMENT, THIS SCHEDULE TRACKER.
THIS SOMETHING -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS AT THE
BOTTOM THERE.
I PRINTED THIS SEPTEMBER OF 2024.
INTERNAL DOCUMENT THAT WE USE IN PLANNING AND THAT KIND OF
THING THAT GIVES US AN IDEA HOW LONG THESE THINGS WILL TAKE
SO WE CAN PRESENT TO OUR CLIENTS, THE USER DEPARTMENTS, HOW
LONG THIS SHOULD TAKE AND HOW LONG WE SHOULD TELL YOU.
THEY ARE PRETTY SPOT ON.
YOU NOTICE THIS LINE HERE, THESE MONTHS HERE.
FROM THE TIME WE POST, YOU KNOW THERE IS A MONTH FOR THIS,
FOR THIS AND THIS.
HERE WE ARE AT THE COUNCIL DESIGN AGREEMENT.
AND THERE IS ONE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS
BETWEEN THE RFQ POSTING AND IF THIS POSTED THIS MAY, WE ARE
RIGHT AT EIGHT AND A HALF MONTHS NOW.
WE ARE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE WHAT A TYPICAL DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT
WE SEE IN THE CITY TAKES PLACE.
SO -- AND SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS ON THE TIMELINE.
11:46:22AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
SO I WILL GO THROUGH THE TIMELINE IN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I WANT TO CONFIRM SOMETHING WHICH YOU SAID THAT
GROUNDBREAKING COULD BE AROUND MARCH OF 2026.
AGAIN, GIVEN THAT.
AND I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH.
AND WE WILL DISSECT THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
GIVEN THAT DESIGN WAS FOUNDED IN 2023 FOR ME AND THAT WAS
JUST A LOT.
AND AGAIN, I MADE REFERENCE TO THIS WHICH IS YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT NORTH TAMPA.
YOU ARE TALKING OF HELP FOR STATION THIS, WHICH IS THE
BUSIEST STATION THAT TOOK ONE OUT OF SEVEN CALLS.
STATION 25 THAT PASSED IN '22 AND -- NO, NO, '21 AND THEN
'22 WAS A GOOD DOWNPAYMENT ON THAT.
GIVEN THE REAL EMERGENCY WITH THAT.
AND THAT WAS -- I REMEMBER CHIEF TRIPP WITH JOE GRECO, THE
FIRST JOINT PRIORITY WE HAVE.
WHAT CAN WE TO DO DOUBLE UP AND MOVE FORWARD TO HAVE A
QUICKER GROUNDBREAKING.
BECAUSE I -- I AM GOING TO MAKE SOME MOTIONS ON THAT.
BUT I WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
11:47:28AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS -- IN YOUR
AGREEMENT, 461 CALENDAR DAYS TO GET TO THAT POINT.
AS FAR AS -- JUST FOR REASONABLENESS.
A FEW ITEMS THAT -- THAT I PRESENTED IN MY MEMO THAT WE CAN
DO.
ONE OF -- ONE OF THE TIME CONSUMING PARTS IS THE BACK AND
FORTH BETWEEN THE FIRM AND THE CITY REVIEWING EVERY STEP OF
THE WAY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT EVERY POINT AT THE 30%, 60%,
90% GMP.
WE ARE REVIEWING EVERYTHING AND REFERRING TO THE USER
DEPARTMENT WHO NEEDS -- REFERRING TO THEM AS WELL.
AND SO THAT REVIEW TIME ONE WAY TO EXPEDITE THIS, TO HIRE A
REPRESENTATIVE TO WORK WITH FIRE, AND ACTUALLY THOSE
PRESENTATIONS ARE COMING BEFORE US THE 27th OF THIS MONTH.
WHERE FIRMS WILL ACT ON BEHALF AS PROJECT MANAGERS.
THEY DON'T WORK FOR COCALAKIS, FOR CAD.
THE THING IS, CHIEF TRIPP FIGHTS FIRES.
SHE DOESN'T KNOW ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING AND READING
THESE KIND OF DOCUMENTS.
THAT KIND OF THING.
SAME PLACE WE PUT IN PLACE NOR TPD ON ONE OF THEIR LARGER
PROJECTS.
ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE ENGINEERING OR
CONSTRUCTION DIVISIONS WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENTS.
SOME SO HAVING SOMEBODY ON BOARD THAT KNOWS FIRE AND KNOWS
PUBLIC SAFETY.
THAT KNOWS CONSTRUCTION AND ARCHITECTURE AND RELAYING THE
INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND JENKINS.
THAT WILL EXPEDITE THE REVIEW TIME.
A FIRM PRESENTS WITH DOCUMENT TO REVIEW AND GOES TO FIRE FOR
THEIR REVIEW, THAT WILL EXPEDITE THAT PROCESS.
THERE ARE, LIKE, FOUR STAGES IN THERE.
EACH ONE OF THOSE ARE CUTTING OFF A WEEK OR TWO WEEK IN
BETWEEN THOSE.
11:49:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION THAT GOES TO THAT.
CHIEF TRIPP, ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT, MA'AM?
ANYTHING TO ADD SUBSTANTIVELY?
I HAVE A QUESTION AND MR. STOCCO THERE.
WE WILL WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM AS PART OF THE MOTION TOO.
DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITION WITH FLEET MAINTENANCE OR ANY UPDATE
WITH FLEET MAINTENANCE IN REAL ESTATE AT ALL.
11:49:49AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH FAST THROUGH THE
AGENDA.
SURPRISINGLY.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU ARE TRYING
TO DO TO GET US THIS FIRE STATION MOVING FORWARD.
AND THANKS TO CONTRACT ADMIN FOR THAT I ASSISTANCE AS WELL.
A COUPLE OF ITEMS YOU MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE
INTRODUCTION AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS ONE WAS FLEET
MAINTENANCE.
WE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT ON SOME PROPERTY JUST
WANT TO DISCLOSE ALL OF THE INFORMATION, BUT WE ARE IN
PROGRESS WITH THAT AND I WILL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU UPDATED ON
THAT.
11:50:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT IS GREAT NEWS.
WE ARE THRILLED.
IS THAT IN CITY LIMITS?
11:50:34AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
DEFINITELY IN CITY LIMITS.
WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE AND SOME WANTED TO LEASE AND
SOME WASN'T BIG ENOUGH.
WE THINK THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS BIG, ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE
ARE LOOKING FOR THE TWO FACILITIES FOR SUPPLYING FLEET.
AS WELL AS OTHER AREAS -- OTHER PROPERTY IN THE AREA
POTENTIAL TO ADD ON FOR ADDITIONAL ROOM, IF NEEDED.
BUT THAT IS A PLUS.
I GOT THE GOOD NEWS YESTERDAY, SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH
THAT.
11:50:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE ARE THRILLED.
AGAIN, WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT.
SO GO FORTH, PLEASE.
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHIEF.
AND MR. MUTTERBACK, WHEN WAS THE ORIGINAL SURVEY ON THE LAND
DONE?
BECAUSE IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE SURVEYS AND
ASSESSMENTS AND ELEVATIONS DONE ON THE LAND PRIOR TO 2023.
11:51:21AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
MY FAMILIARITY WITH THE OTERO REPORT.
11:51:33AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM OPINE WHEN INVESTMENTS AND
SURVEYS DONE ON THE LAND.
11:51:38AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
THE ONLY THAT TO COME FROM CONTRACT
AI ADMIN.
IF THERE WAS A SEARCH, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
11:51:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
SO I HAVE -- AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ALL OF COUNCIL'S
TIME ON THIS.
BUT, FOR ME, THE BIG ISSUE IS LOOK, WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
AND FOR ME, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT STATION 24.
IN 2023, I REMEMBER WHEN WE PASSED THE DESIGN FOR THAT.
AND THE VIGOR AND THE EMPHASIS THAT COUNCIL PUT STATING THAT
WE WANT THIS THING BUILT REALLY, REALLY SOON.
PUT OUR PRIORITY ON IT.
AND SO FORTH.
AND HERE WE ARE TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER.
AND WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED WITH DESIGN.
SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT.
BUT MY BIG THING IS, MOVING FORWARD WITH VIGOR.
WHEN I HEAR THAT WE HAVE GREAT FLEET MAINTENANCE GOING
FORWARD, THAT IS GREAT.
I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT -- AND I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY
MOTIONS ON THIS.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT, TOO, WITH SOMETHING
DOWNTOWN.
BUT, WHATEVER.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, I AM GOING TO MOTION FOR A
MONTHLY REPORT TO TAKE PLACE AT THE LAST REGULAR SESSION OF
EACH MONTH BEGINNING WITH AN UPDATE ON 24 AND FLEET
MAINTENANCE TO INCLUDE REPORTS ON TAMPA GENERAL,
AND MR. MUTTERBACK, THE PROJECT MANAGER, TO KEEP A FORCEFUL
EYE ON THIS.
AGAIN, I -- AND WE SPOKE A LOT PRIVATELY FOR 45 MINUTES ON
THE HISTORY OF IT.
AND ANYTHING.
AND I AM SURE YOU WEREN'T LOOKING FORWARD TO TODAY'S
QUESTIONING YOU GOT -- YOU HAVE THICK SKIN.
GOD BLESS YOU.
THAT IS WHAT I AM GOING TO BE MOTIONING FOR.
SOMETHING THAT A REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GOT TO MOVE
FORWARD.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, I EMPHASIZE THE REASON WE PUT A PRIORITY ON
STATION 24 WAS BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF STATION 13, WHICH
WAS, AGAIN, A BIG PRIORITY FOR CHIEF TRIP MOVING IT FORWARD
AND FINISHING THE JOB.
THE GOOD NEWS IS ONCE WE FINISH THIS, THE MEN AND WOMEN AT
STATION 13 WILL HAVE THE REAL SUPPORT THEY NEED IN THE
COMPLETED JOB.
I WILL END AND I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK.
11:53:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE FIRE STATIONS IN THE MID-50s.
TAMPA UNDER A NEW PERIOD AND CEO AND ADMINISTRATION,
ONE AFTER THE OTHER FIRE STATION.
AND THEY WORKED WITH SWIFTNESS AND INVESTING IN FIRE.
YOU KNOW.
AND I JUST -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN MODERN TIMES.
NOW IN 2025, BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING.
AND AS EVERYTHING COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA SAID, THE DEMAND IS
THERE.
OUR CITY HAS GROWN MUCH.
THE AMOUNT OF CALLS THESE STATIONS ARE RUNNING I THINK IS
SUCH A NECESSARY THING, AND I AM GLAD THIS IS ON THE AGENDA
TODAY WITH THE DESIGN-BUILD AND MOVING FORWARD AND
EVERYTHING.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOUR MICROPHONE WAS ON FIRST AN
THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:54:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE HE WITH
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
MAYBE I WILL SAY IT A LITTLE BIT STRONGER.
FRUSTRATED TAKING THREE TO FOUR YEARS TO GO FORWARD.
NOT BLAMING THE TWO OF YOU, BUT FRUSTRATING IN A LOT OF WAYS
THAT IT HAVEN'T GONE FORWARD.
NOT IN MY DISTRICT BUT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND THE UNION
AND OTHERS CLEARLY SHOW THE NEED FOR THIS.
AND NOW WE NEEDED TO IMPROVE RESPONSE TIMES.
I SUPPORTED IT MULTIPLE TIMES LIKE MY COLLEAGUES DID.
AND IN THE CITY ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING OF PEOPLE'S
LIVES, IT DOESN'T HAVE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES AND WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE PEOPLE SUPPORT IT.
FRUSTRATING THING BESIDES HOW LONG THIS HAS TAKEN IS THAT
THE UNION AND OTHER EXPERTS HAVE BEEN DEMANDING ADDITIONAL
STATIONS IN PLACES LIKE DOWNTOWN AND SOUTH TAMPA.
YOU KNOW WE NEED SOME KIND OF MARINE UNIT.
STATION BY ME AND NICK.
IF THE TRUCK GOES OUT, THERE IS LESS COVERAGE IN OUR AREA.
THEY HAVE ASKED -- THEY HAVE ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL VEHICLES.
THEY WOULD ASK FOR STAGING DEBRIS REHAB TO PREVENT AIR
POLLUTION, OTHER ISSUES.
THEY HAVE ASKED FOR NEW EQUIPMENT.
AND IT FEELS LIKE SOME OF THAT HAS MOVED FORWARD AND FEELS
LIKE HAS BACKED UP BECAUSE OF THIS.
I HOPE THAT THIS -- THIS MOVING FORWARD.
FIRST OF ALL, I HOPE IT MOVES FORWARD BECAUSE OF A NEED THREE
YEARS AGO AND EVEN MORE OF A NEED NOW.
BUT AS THIS GOES FORWARD, I HOPE WE CAN RELEASE ALL THE
OTHER PROJECTS THAT NEED TO GO FORWARD AND START MOVING
QUICKLY ON THEM, BECAUSE IT IS NOT FAIR TO OUR FIRE
FIGHTERS.
AND IT IS NOT FAIR TO OUR CITIZENS THAT WE HAVEN'T INVESTED
IN FIRE SAFETY THE WAY WE SHOULD HAVE.
THANK YOU.
11:56:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND HURTAK.
11:56:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP STAGING.
PART OF THE PROBLEM WE HAVE SEEN FOR THE TWO YEARS NOW --
ALMOST TWO YEARS I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
IT IS KIND OF LIKE SCATTERED APPROACH.
AND I THINK CHIEF TRIPP HAS ATTEMPTED TO COME FORWARD WITH A
SCHEDULE AND APPROACH OF WHAT WE HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND WITH ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE -- WE HAVE TO DO A, B, C, D,
AND E BEFORE WE ACCOMPLISH IT.
AND DIFFICULT FOR SEVEN OF US TO HERD CATS TO BE ABLE TO
STAY FOCUSED ON AN AGENDA AND BE THAT KIND -- INJECT THAT KIND
OF LOGIC INTO THIS PROCESS.
WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY REVISIT THAT.
JUST LIKE THE DOWNTOWN THING.
HOPEFULLY, WE MOVED PAST THE IDEA OF ADDITIONAL STATION AND
MORE INTO THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE ROOM AT FIRE
STATION 1 AND THAT AND LOOK TOWARD THE FUTURE FOR A NEED
ASSESSMENT WHAT WE NEED DOWN THERE.
PROBABLY THE DIRECTION OF WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH A COST
BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
STAY FOCUSED IN THIS DIRECTION AND FACILITATE IN THE MOST
MORE EXPEDITIOUS WAY.
I SHARE SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION.
YOU ALL KNOW I AM A PASSIONATE ADVOCATE FOR MASS TRANSIT,
TRANSPORTATION, AND STREETCAR.
THE PATH IS SLOW.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I GET MONTHLY UPDATES FROM THE STAFF OF
WHERE WE ARE FROM THE STREETCAR EXPANSION.
AND MAYBE INSTEAD -- A LOT OF TIME AT LEAST COUNCIL MEETINGS
DRAGGING ON FOREVER, BECAUSE -- ESPECIALLY AT IN TIME OF THE
PROCESS, THAT IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL EVERY THREE MONTHS
AND YOU GET A PERSONAL BRIEFING EVERY MONTH ON THIS
PROGRESS.
BECAUSE THESE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS -- BUT EVERY 30 DAY IS
KIND OF -- NOT A LOT OF MOVEMENT IN A 30-DAY PROCESS, WITH
WHERE QUARTERLY THERE IS.
I THINK AS FAR AS EFFICIENT USE OF TIME.
THAT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF CITY COUNCIL TIME WILL BE
MY SUGGESTION.
AND IF ANYBODY WANTS THE PERSONAL UPDATES.
THEY CAN GET PERSONAL UPDATES.
FOR COUNCIL'S TIME MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFICIENT STAFF TIME.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS TAKE UP AN AWFUL AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME AND
MOVE THESE PROJECTS FORWARD.
THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
WHO IS NEXT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:58:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION THAT HAS OCCURRED.
AND THAT HAS REALLY BEEN ABOUT TIMELINE.
I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT MONEY.
BECAUSE 24 MILLION FOR A FIRE STATION IS JUST SIMPLY NOT
WHAT I SEE WHEN I HAVE ASKED AROUND.
BY AND LARGE, WE ARE LOOKING AT AN 11,000-SQUARE-FOOT FIRE
STATION.
AND WE -- MR. MUTTERBACK AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS BACK AND
FORTH THIS MORNING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE SAID WAS THAT MOST PEOPLE CAME IN
AROUND $11 MILLION FOR THEIR.
AND AT THAT THE -- AT THAT, THAT IS $1,000 A SQUARE FOOT.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT FIRST BEFORE I --
11:59:36AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
THAT $11 MILLION TO $24 MILLION
CONSTRUCTION COST IS EVERYTHING.
IT IS NOT YOUR COST PER SQUARE FOOTAGE, STEEL AND CONCRETE
TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
BASICALLY THE BUILDING DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY OF THE
SITE IMPROVEMENT.
IS THAT SKEWS THAT NUMBER JUST A LITTLE BIT.
11:59:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE THAT AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO
FLUSH THAT OUT WHICH IS WHY I AM ASKING NOW.
MY OTHER QUESTION.
THAT THIS $11 MILLION.
WHERE IS THE OTHER $13 MILLION COMING, GOING?
WHY DO WE NEED 13 MORE MILLION.
12:00:13PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS
BUDGETED?
12:00:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: THIS 6.2348 FOR DESIGN AND $11 MILLION
TO $14 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION UP TO POTENTIALLY $16
MILLION TO $17 MILLION.
AND YOU HAVE FURNISHINGS AND EQUIPMENT OUTSIDE OF WHAT WOULD
NORMALLY BE THERE THROUGH T&I.
AND I CAN, IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS THERE AN APPARATUS --
THERE IS A TRUCK INVOLVED FOR THE STATION, I THINK.
12:00:44PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I THINK THEY PUT ONE IN.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE IT --
12:00:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WILL HAVE TO COME UP TO THE
MICROPHONE, MISS TRIPP.
12:00:52PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
MY APOLOGY SEE -- APOLOGY.
FOR REPLACEMENT, WE HAVE ONE ORDERED.
12:01:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN TAKE VEHICLES OUT OF IT.
BECAUSE WHAT I AM SEEING -- WHAT I FOUND IS THAT IN ASKING
-- I ASKED MISS KOPESKY TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT OTHER STATIONS
WERE AROUND HERE.
OR THAT ARE BEING BUILT.
AND SO THE CITY OF BRADENTON IS BUILDING ONE THAT WILL BE
DONE IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR AND IT IS 15,000
SQUARE FEET AND BUILDING IT FOR $7.9 MILLION.
PALM COAST HAS ONE THAT WILL BE DONE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR
AS WELL.
SAME THING.
QUARTER FOUR, 2025, 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND THERE IS MORE.
THEIRS IS DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTION IS $11.4 MILLION.
SOUNDS LIKE THE $11.4 MILLION IS RIGHT AND WHAT I AM LOOKING
FORWARD AND I BELIEVE THAT MISS -- MISS SHARP JUST GAVE YOU
THE -- THE SPREADSHEET THAT I HAVE GOT -- OH, SHE HAS IT.
FROM KOKOLAKIS FROM THE TPD INBOUND LOT.
THEY HAD A SPREADSHEET THAT BROKE TO DOWN.
THEY WEREN'T SURE AND I WANTED TO KNOW.
WHAT ARE DETAILED IN THIS.
KOKOLAKIS IS WORKING ON TWO OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
THEY ARE WORKING ON THE TPD ANNEX INBOUND LOT THAT WILL
NOT BE A INBOUND LOT AND SOUTHWEST FACILITIES.
LOOKING AT THEIR FEE OF $2.3 MILLION THAT WE ARE APPROVING
TODAY, THEIR -- THEIR SHARE OF THAT IS 21% OF THE -- OF THE
$2.3 MILLION.
BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE SHARE FOR THE TPD INBOUND LOT.
THEIR SHARE IS ONLY 14.7%.
LOOKING AT THE SOUTHWEST RELOCATION, WHICH IS A GIGANTIC
THING.
THAT ONLY 12.7 %.
AND I AM WONDERING WHY -- AND THESE ARE RECENT.
THINGS WE JUST DID.
IF IT IS 12.7% FOR THIS GIANT SOLID WASTE RELOCATION AND
13.7% FOR THE INPUT LOT THAT IS NOT AN INBOUND LOT.
SORRY IT IS ON -- WRITTEN ON THERE.
THAT IS WHY I WAS READING 21.1% FOR COST, FOR THIS PROJECT
WILL.
12:03:19PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
CAN I BACK UP TO YOUR PREVIOUS
STATEMENT?
FIRE STATIONS OPENED UNDER AND BUILT THIS YEAR, AGREEMENTS
WERE PLACED IN '25 AND '21.
ALL THESE PROJECTS TAKE THREE YEARS.
BASING THAT OFF OF NUMBERS ON 2021.
NUMBERS OF 2021 DO NOT REFLECT NUMBERS TODAY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
12:03:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT DOES, BUT --
12:03:44PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
ONE POTENTIAL EXPLANATION.
ALSO LOCALITY.
A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN COME INTO PLAY IN HERE.
AS FAR AS THE PRECONSTRUCTION SERVICES ON -- THESE PROJECTS
ARE -- THEY ARE SITE-SPECIFIC.
THEY ARE PROJECT-SPECIFIC.
AS FAR AS THE SPREADSHEET THAT BREAKS DOWN EVERYTHING IN THE
-- FOR THIS AGREEMENT, I -- I DO HAVE THAT COMING TO YOU.
I DID NOT HAVE MY -- I HAVE TO GET THAT FROM KOKOLAKIS.
THEY HAVE IT TO BREAK DOWN ALL OF THOSE.
THIS PARTICULAR SITE -- THIS IS A BRAND-NEW SITE.
NOTHING ON IT.
VACANT SITE.
THERE ARE STORMWATER ISSUES.
WETLANDS.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
[BUZZER]
SO -- IT IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES.
YOU CAN'T SPARE.
SERVICE FEES FOR KOKOLAKIS, THAT'S HOW MUCH INVOLVEMENT.
HOW MUCH INVOLVEMENT WE WILL HAVE ON THIS PROJECT AND MORE
COMPLEX SITE AND MORE -- MORE PEOPLE ON THEIR TEAM TO MANAGE
ACROSS THE ANYTHING.
THAT IS WHERE THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY, THAT DIFFERENCE
WILL BE.
IT IS NOT A CUT AND DRY DIFFERENCE PERCENTAGE WIDE PROJECT
TO PROJECT.
12:05:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THAT IS MY RESPONSIBLE
AS A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR A PROBABLY THAT IS THIS EXPENSIVE
FOR WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN OTHER AREAS THAT IS HALF THE
PRICE.
IF I DON'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS NOW, I MEAN THIS IS -- WE
CAN'T MOVE FORWARD DOING I DON'T KNOW HUE WE CAN AFFORD
BUILD $24 MILLION FIRE STATIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE WE NEED TO BUILD MORE FIRE STATIONS AND WE NEED TO
FIND A MORE COST EFFECTIVE MANNER TO DO IT.
RIGHT NOW WE ALSO HAVE IN THE GREAT EIGHT, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC
SAFETY TRAIN FACILITY RENOVATION FOR 17,000 SQUARE FEET ONLY
COSTING $13 MILLION JUST -- IT IS GLARINGLY DIFFERENT.
SO I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE THE SPREADSHEET
REPORT.
AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, WITH ALL THE MONEY IS
GOING.
12:05:57PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
RELATED TO THE INITIAL SERVICE
AGREEMENT $2.3 MILLION.
AND HAVE TO DEVELOP IT PART OF THE DESIGN OF WHAT IT WILL
BE.
TO CLARIFY IN CITY COUNCIL IN MY RESPONSE REGARDING THE
COST.
I CAN'T SPEAK WHY THINGS COST SO MUCH, BUT IN THOSE
ESTIMATES, FIRE AND CAD WENT TO ORLANDO TO SEE ONE OF THEIR
BRAND-NEW FOUR BAY STATIONS THAT JUST GOT UP.
SEVERAL PHONE CALLS WITH HILLSBOROUGH FIRE TALKING OF
STATIONS THEY HAVE BUILT RECENTLY AND IN THE PROCESS OF
BUILDING.
AND ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE FOUR QUALIFIED PRESENTERS FOR THIS
AREA THAT COME TO TAMPA AND ALL GAVE US THE VERY SAME RANGE.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHY IT COST SO MUCH, BUT IT IS THE COST
THAT WE ARE SEEING.
12:06:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SO, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN
-- I DON'T KNOW, I AM JUST HAVING A HARD TIME YOU SAYING
THAT IT WILL COST -- THAT FOLKS ARE SAYING IT WILL COST $21
MILLION AND THEN THE 24 MILLION.
A DIFFERENTIAL.
THAT'S IT.
12:07:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:07:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT IS RELATED TO THAT.
12:07:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BRING UP MR. STOCCO.
12:07:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT. IF MR. STOCCO WANTED
TO COME FORWARD?
I KNOW HE DOES.
12:07:24PM >> HEY, GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
NICK STOCCO THE OF LOCAL 754, TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE SPEAK TODAY AND OVER
THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND MONTHS.
I WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FROM
CONTRACT ADMIN TO JEAN DUNCAN, BRAD BAIRD, RICHARD
MUTTERBACK AND ALL THOSE WHO EXPLAINED THE PROCESS THEY ARE
EXPLAINING.
A TIMELINE PURPOSE, WE ARE WONDERING THE SAME THING.
HOW DID WE GET HERE SO FAR LATE IN THE GAME.
WITH THIS WAS CIP 2021 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHY HERE
IN 2025 HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSIONS.
LOOKING IN THE REAR VIEW, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE
FORWARD.
WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
AND THE BUDGETARY QUESTIONS ARE VALID.
IF THE DESIGN-BUILD AGREEMENT IS $2.5 MILLION OR $2.6 MILLION.
AND FOR A 1,000-SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY LOOKING AT $13 MILLION
OR $14 MILLION, WHERE IS THE OTHER $10 MILLION?
A TRUCK COMPANY COULD BE $2 MILLION, A RESCUE CAN BE
$600,000; HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T EQUATE TO $10 MILLION TO $11
MILLION.
I THINK THOSE ARE VALID QUESTIONS I HOPE TO HAVE THOSE
DISCUSSIONS AND GET THOSE ANSWERS.
I WOULD CHALLENGE TO SAY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT AND
LOOK BACKWARD AND SAY HOW MUCH DID IT ACTUALLY COST, RIGHT.
TO SEE IF THE NUMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN ARE -- ARE SUPPORTED.
BUT I DO WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF FOR
AFFORDING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THOSE TIMELINE BURNS
FROM THE LEGAL CCN PROCESS.
THEY HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB ON EDUCATING AND INFORMING
US.
BUT WE CAN'T LOOK FORWARD.
LET'S -- WE CAN'T LOOK BACKWARDS, LET'S LOOK FORWARD.
LET'S MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AND I LOOK FORWARD IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WANTING TO DO
THE MONTHLY.
THE 30 DAYS.
LET'S PUT SOME PRESSURE.
MAYBE PUT PRESSURE ON THEM MONTHLY, BUT PUBLICLY THE
QUARTERLY MAY BE MORE PRODUCTIVE, UNDERSTANDING THAT
CONSTRUCTION, NOT MUCH GETS DONE OVER 30 DAYS UNLESS WE GO
OUT AND HELP THEM BUILD IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE.
12:09:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, BEFORE YOU MAKE
YOUR MOTION.
ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW UP -- IT IS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
COMMITTEE.
AND THEN MOVE 22.
12:09:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I MAKE THAT --
12:09:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE WELCOME TO.
12:09:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE THE ITEM -- 22 WAS IT?
12:09:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
12:09:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 22, WHICH
WAS PULLED FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
LET'S GET A ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:09:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:10:07PM >>CLERK:
CLERK HENDERSON?
12:10:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, YES.
12:10:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:10:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:10:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:10:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:10:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:10:17PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:10:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU HAVE --
12:10:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
AND MR. STOCCO STAYED AND STAFF INCLUDING MR. MUTTERBACK
BECAUSE SPENT A LOT OF TIME.
YESTERDAY OR -- LONG WEEK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS TO PROMOTE THE AGENDA WITH VIGOR THAT I KNOW CHIEF
TRIPP AND THE UNION HAS MOVED FORWARD ON WITH REGARD TO
NORTH TAMPA THAT STARTED BACK IN 2022.
SO THIS KIND OF FINISHES IT, WHICH IS GREAT.
SO WHAT I AM GOING TO DO COUNCIL IS MAKE A MOTION FOR
QUARTERLY IN-PERSON REPORTS.
AND OTHERWISE WRITTEN, LIKE EVERY MONTH, IF THAT IS GOOD.
AND I CAN MEET WITH FOLKS AND WHOEVER WANTS TO CAN JUST -- I
REALLY WANT TO KEEP THIS ON THE FOREFRONT FOR OBVIOUS
REASONS LIKE WE HAVE.
SO I MOTION FOR MONTHLY REPORTS.
QUARTERLY IN PERSON.
TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE REGULAR SESSION, WHICH WILL BE IN
WRITING WITH AN UPDATE ON STATION 23 AND FLEET MAINTENANCE
STATION TO INCLUDE REPORTS FROM CHIEF -- SORRY, 24 -- FROM
CHIEF TRIPP, MR. MUTTERBACK AND HIS OFFICE AND THE PROJECT
MANAGER AND THIS WILL INCLUDE UPDATES ON THE DATE FOR
GROUNDBREAKING.
12:11:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:11:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
12:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WAS THE SECOND.
SORRY.
ALL IN FAVOR.
12:11:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU HAVE TO YOU DO A ROLL CALL, I
THOUGHT.
12:11:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S DO ROLL CALL.
IT IS VIERA, MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:11:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
12:12:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:12:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:12:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:12:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:12:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:12:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:12:11PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:12:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANKS.
12:12:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I?
12:12:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
12:12:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHILE WE ARE ON THIS TOPIC.
YOUR MOTION WAS ON THE STATUS OF FIRE STATION 24?
GREAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO A SEPARATE ONE FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE.
12:12:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I INCLUDED THAT, BUT --
12:12:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT SEPARATE ONLY BECAUSE
WE ARE -- WE ARE AT A DIFFERENT POINT.
SO I AM ACTUALLY HAVING A QUESTION FOR MISS VAN LOAN BECAUSE
I SEE HER IN THE BACK.
12:12:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU CAME EARLY AND I SPOTTED YOU, SO I AM
GOING TO ASK.
WE HAVE BEEN GIFTED THE WONDERFUL NEWS OF KNOWING THAT WE
HAVE AN OFFER.
CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY TELL US, YOU KNOW, ON THE AVERAGE, WHAT
DOES IT TAKE FROM BETWEEN OFFER TO CLOSING ON A PROPERTY?
12:13:08PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN:
MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE.
OUR GOAL IS TO BRING YOU THAT CONTRACT FEBRUARY 20 PENDING
ALL THE DOTTING OF Is AND CROSSING OF TS ON MARCH 26.
CONTRACT WILL INCLUDE TWO 30-DAY OR 60-DAY EXTENSION.
ONLY THE REASON WE NEED AN EXTENSION IF THE PHASE ONE
ENVIRONMENTAL COME BACK AND SAY WE NEED A PHASE TWO.
A TOPO OR TREE SURVEY.
IF WE RUN INTO ISSUES WITH OUR DUE DILIGENCE WE WILL NEED TO
EXTEND AND OTHERWISE FOR A 60-DAY CLOSING.
ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE COMES BACK CLEAN.
AND CLOSE 60 DAYS FROM WHEN THE MAYOR SIGNS A CONTRACT AFTER
YOU APPROVED THE CONTRACT.
12:13:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST A NICE -- MR. MUTTERBACK IS STANDING
THERE SAYING HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TOO.
BUT SOUNDS LIKE WORST-CASE SCENARIO IF ALL GOES --
[KNOCKING]
-- WELL.
FOUR MONTHS SOMEBODY A GOOD BALLPARK.
MR. MUTTERBACK.
12:14:12PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
YES, RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION.
BEFORE YOU PICK THAT DATE AND REPORT ON THE PROGRESS.
WE PROACTIVELY -- WE HAVE A PRESENTATION NEXT THURSDAY FOR A
FIRM TO DO AN OVERALL ASSESSMENT OF THE NEED OF FIRE AND
FLEET, WHICH WOULD GO INTO -- YOU KNOW, GOING -- ONE OF
THOSE PRELIMINARY REPORTS SO JUST -- I JUST WANTED TO LET
YOU KNOW THAT.
12:14:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WERE ANSWERING MY NEXT QUESTION.
WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MOVE FORWARD STARTING IT NOW THAT WE
FOCUSED ON THE SITE AND YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
12:14:45PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
THAT ASSESSMENT -- WE ARE HAVING THOSE
PRESENTATIONS NEXT WEEK.
A NEEDS ANALYSIS, SPATIAL ANALYSIS.
PART OF THAT WAS TO ASSIST ON PROPERTY ACQUISITION, BUT NOW
THAT SCOPE WILL SHIFT TO THE SPATIAL ANALYSIS OF THIS
PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND ITS FEASIBILITY.
THAT -- WE WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA ONCE WE GET THAT
AGREEMENT IN PLACE AND THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU AND THEN WE
WILL KNOW THE TIME NEEDED FOR THAT.
THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT STARTING THE PROCESS OF
THE RFQ.
12:15:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WONDERFUL.
I WILL LEAVE THAT UNDER MR. VIERA FOR NOW, AND IF WE NEED TO
TEASE THAT OUT.
12:15:25PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
I CAN GIVE UPDATES ON THAT.
12:15:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WONDERFUL AS PART OF THAT.
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO -- WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THIS
BALL FASTER THAN THE OTHER ONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND MR. STOCCO, WHILE YOU ARE HERE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING
THAT YOU WANT TO ADD ABOUT THAT?
AND CHIEF TRIPP?
IF ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE ALREADY WORKING WITH FLEET ON THAT.
12:15:54PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, NICK STOCCO, TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS,
PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP WITH FLEET MAINTENANCE AND
CHANNELSIDE.
I HAD CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND YOURSELF
THE OTHER NIGHT.
AND I DID BRIEFLY MENTION IT TO THE CFO.
AS MUCH AS WE LIKE TO SAY THANKS, WE LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE
CHALLENGE AS WELL.
IF WE CAN INCLUDE MULTIPLE PROJECTS IN THAT RF Q SO THE CCN
-- SORRY IF I MESSED UP THE ABBREVIATION WILL INCLUDE MORE
THAN ONE PROJECT BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE LONGEST PIECE
TO IT.
MAYBE OVER A TIME SPAN -- SHALL SOME KIND OF -- IFT BE
INCLUDED IN THAT RFQ, MAYBE BOTH OF THOSE PROJECT, FLEET
MAINTENANCE AND CHANNELSIDE TO GET DONE WITHIN THAT X AMOUNT
OF TIME TO INCLUDE MULTIPLE PROJECTS IN THAT RFQ AS KIND OF
A PROMISE.
WE DO GIVE CHALLENGE BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
12:16:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THAT BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT AND A CHALLENGE I WILL GIVE TO
MY COLLEAGUES.
LITERALLY EVERY TIME SOMEBODY COMES TO TALK TO ME ABOUT ANY
TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THEY WANT TO DO A PRE- - THIS IS WHAT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THINKING ABOUT.
I BRING UP A FIRE STATION EVERY SINGLE TIME.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO WORK ON IT.
I AM SURE HE ALREADY DOES THAT WELL.
THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THE FLEET IS MOVING ALONG.
12:17:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE TALKED OF STAYING UNTIL 12:30.
SQUEEZE IN 68.
12:17:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT SHOULD BE VERY QUICK, I THINK.
12:17:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHIEF TRIPP, IT SAID YOU WILL APPEAR IN
PERSON TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PUBLIC SAFETY
RECORDS REQUEST DONE BY LOCAL 754.
AND MR. STOCCO IS HERE.
SINCE WE ARE ALL HERE TOGETHER SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME
BACK AFTER LUNCH.
12:17:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HE IS HERE.
12:17:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHIEF TRIPP, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO START
IT OFF.
12:17:50PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
JUST TRYING TO PULL MY NOTES UP HERE.
SORRY.
CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
I GUESS THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE RECORD REQUEST BY LOCAL 754.
THE RECORDS -- ONE OF THE SESSIONS THAT I KNOW THAT
PRESIDENT STOCCO IS INQUIRING IS FOR DATA FOR 2022, 2023 AND
2024.
THAT IS DATA THAT DOESN'T EXIST WITHOUT CREATING A RECORD.
BASICALLY WHEN YOU ASK FOR A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST.
THE REASON AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS QUOTED THIS IS
INFORMATION THAT INDIVIDUALS WILL HAVE TO GO IN BECAUSE OF
THE OUTDATED EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE A CAD SYSTEM, OF COURSE, 30 YEARS OLD.
THE INFORMATION THAT I DO HAVE AVAILABLE IS '18, '19, '20
AND '21.
ACTUALLY '17.
AND IT WAS THE DATA THAT CREATED WHEN I DID THE NEED
ANALYSIS IN '21 AND '22.
IF THIS ADDITIONAL DATA IS NEEDED WHY WE GAVE THE QUOTE.
NOT LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO UP-PRICE SOMETHING.
AND TACK TIME FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THAT DATA
AND GET THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS MANUAL.
NOT TO MENTION THE DATA THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING BECAUSE THE
SYSTEM IS OUTDATED.
IT'S -- IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT IS HIT OR MISS
BECAUSE WHEN INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO GO ON THE AIR TO GO TO
RESPOND TO THE CALL ON SCENE AVAILABLE.
OF COURSE THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR RADIO TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF
THEIR OUTDATED EQUIPMENT.
AND A LOT OF TIME THAT DISPATCH IS NOT AVAILABLE, THEY TELL
ME PUT ME AVAILABLE TWO MINUTES AGO, FIVE MINUTES AGO, TEN
MINUTES AGO.
THAT DATA -- ONE WE GET THE NEW CAD SYSTEM IN.
THANK YOU ALL FOR APPROVING THE CAD SYSTEM.
WE HAD ONE MEETING AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING UP IN THE
NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THIS DONE WITHIN THE
NEXT 15 MONTHS AND, OF COURSE, STEPS ALONG THE WAY FOR THE
CAD PROJECT.
VIERA.
12:20:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I?
I DIDN'T KNOW IF MR. STOCCO OR MR. BRODY IN ANYTHING TO SAY
ON THIS.
I WANTED TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
CHIEF, I DID INTERRUPT YOU?
12:20:32PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I WENT TO LEGAL TO FIND THE TYPICAL
INFORMATION OF PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST.
12:20:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS, AND EVERYBODY
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, 2018 UNDER A SEPARATE SYSTEM, THE
UNION DID A SEPARATE REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AS WHICH THEY
WORKED WITH THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS
TO DO WHAT I CALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
SO THE UNION WANTS THIS -- TO DOER THEIR OWN UPDATED ONE.
I KNOW IN 2022, THE ADMINISTRATION DID THE FITZ REPORT FOR
THEIR MASTER PLAN.
AND IS DUE BEFORE COUNCIL IN 2025 THAT MOTIONED FOR.
AND THE UNION WANTS THIS SO NICK HAVE THEIR OWN REPORT.
SO MR. BRODY, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SIR, WHICH IS
-- YOU ARE SAYING THAT THEY -- THE ADMINISTRATION CAN'T BE
COMPELLED TO RESPOND TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST WITH THE
CREATION OF A SEPARATE DOCUMENT.
THE ONLY WAY TO GET THIS THROUGH PROSPECTIVELY A MOTION
THROUGH COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO
ACQUIRE THE INFORMATION.
IS THAT YOUR LEGAL OPINION?
12:21:38PM >>CARL BRODY:
CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
YES, THE LAW PROVIDES THAT WE DON'T CREATE ANY RECORD.
SO THOUGH RECORDS MIGHT EXIST IN ONE FORMAT, IF THEY DON'T
EXIST IN THE REQUESTED FORMAT.
IT IS NOT ABLE TO BE PROVIDED IN THAT MATTER.
WHAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THE INSPECTION OPTION IS AVAILABLE
FOR ANYONE TO COME IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL
ELECTRONIC RECORDS THAT EXIST.
MOVING FORWARD, I THINK THERE ARE OPTIONS.
I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW IT WILL WORK WITH -- IN TERMS OF
COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY RELATED TO FIRE DEPARTMENT AND -- AND
THE ADMINISTRATION.
BUT, IT WILL PROBABLY BE DISTINCT FROM A PUBLIC RECORDS
REQUEST.
12:22:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. BRODY.
AND MR. STOCCO, THE PROVISION OF POTENTIALLY INSPECTING THE
RECORDS.
WE MET ON THIS A FEW TIMES.
WAS THAT'S A NO GO?
IS THAT NOT A VIABLE OPTION FOR YOU ARE ALL TO GET THE
INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED?
12:22:42PM >> YEAH, NICK STOCCO, TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS UNION PRESIDENT.
A GREAT OPTION WE WERE PROVIDED; HOWEVER, THE SAME
INFORMATION THAT IS TURNED IN WHEN A DEPARTMENT GOES TO GET
ACCREDITED IF IT DOES.
THE DEPARTMENT IS SUBMITTING INFORMATION TO GET CREDITED.
MAYBE A GOOD TIME TO ASK FOR THAT STAPLE INFORMATION.
12:23:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS WHAT I AM GOING TO PROPOSE, COUNCIL.
I AM GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU.
AND AT THE END OF COUNCIL, MAKE A MOTION OF PART IN
MORE TAILORED INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GET IF WE HAVE THAT
AUTHORITY WHICH I THINK WE DO.
AND THAT BE WOULD BE UNAVAILABLE THROUGH THE INSPECTION
OPTION.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
12:23:27PM >> YEAH, IT DOES.
I THINK WE ARE GETTING THERE VERY CLOSELY.
I THINK WE ARE GETTING THERE.
AND HOPEFULLY TOGETHER, WE CAN CROSS THAT FINISH LINE.
12:23:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL TELL YOU THIS, COUNCIL.
WE HAVE BEEN MEETING AN A LOT OF BRIDGES HAVE BEEN BUILT ON
THIS I SHALL WHICH IS GOOD AND WE ARE ALMOST THERE.
HELPFULLY THIS WE WILL TALK.
12:23:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:23:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, I AM KINDS OF A LABOR
GUY.
BUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THAT LINE BETWEEN
THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL AUTHORITY.
SO DID YOU USE -- MAYBE BE THIS IS A PERSONNEL -- A JOINT
UNDERSTANDING OF YOU.
MAYBE BE THIS IS -- A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE
INFORMATION -- IF THE LABOR ORGANIZATION NEEDS THIS FOR A
NEXT OR -- OR A GRIEVANCE PROTECTION, THEY SHOULD BE
ENTITLED TO THE INFORMATION THEY ARE REQUESTING, CORRECT?
12:24:18PM >>CARL BRODY:
RIGHT, WE ARE NOT -- AGAIN, CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE NOT IN THAT CONTEXT RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS WHEN YOU ARE IN AN OFFICIAL LABOR NEXT.
12:24:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVEN BE IN MIDTERM, AN ISSUER THAT IS
PERTINENT TO THEIR CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT OR ALL THE
COVERED ITEMS OF -- WOULDN'T BE THIS CONSIDERED A ULP IF IT
WASN'T.
IF WE DIDN'T PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT WAS PERMANENT SUBJECT
TO THE CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT.
12:24:47PM >>CARL BRODY:
NOT AT THIS POINT, INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS ON
PROVIDING THESE RECORDS.
SO IT IS IN THE CONTEXT OF A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST AT THIS
POINT.
12:24:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
NOT A LABOR MANAGEMENT --
12:25:01PM >>CARL BRODY:
CORRECT.
12:25:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT.
12:25:04PM >>CARL BRODY:
THAT IS STATIONARY.
12:25:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. STOCCO, WHY DID YOU CHOOSES TO USE
PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AND NOT THE LABOR AVENUE YOU HAVE
AVAILABLE TO YOU TO REQUEST THAT INFORMATION.
12:25:17PM >> NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS FOUNDATION.
WE MET WITH MANAGEMENT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND WE REQUESTED THIS INFORMATION IN PERSON SEVERAL MONTHS
OVER TIME.
AND WE WERE DIRECTED BY THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION TO PUT IN A
PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
12:25:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD URGE YOU TO YOU, ONE -- WAS IT IN
WRITING OR VERBALLY?
I WOULD URGE YOU TO GO THROUGH YOUR OPPORTUNITIES TO PUTS IT
IN WRITING.
SO YOU HAVE A LEGAL -- YOU HAVE A LEGAL BASIS OF BEING
NEITHER EITHER APPROVED OR DENIED AND YOU HAVE RECOURSE.
IF YOU USE THE POWER GIVEN TO YOU BY STATUTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HINTED TO IT A LITTLE BIT TOO.
A FINE LINE OF WHAT WE AS COUNCIL AND WHAT THE
ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
YOU HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE REPRESENTING YOUR
BARGAINING UNITS AND USE THOSE RULES AND LAWS TO ACQUIRE
THAT INFORMATION FOR THE ABILITY FOR YOUR WORKFORCE.
12:26:16PM >> THANK YOU.
12:26:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL MAKE THE MOTION AT THE END OF THE
COUNCIL -- I WANT TO HAVE IT AS NARROW AS POSSIBLE.
70%.
WE WILL TRY FOR THE 30%.
I NEED TO FIRST SPEAK TO NICK ON IT AND TFR.
WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT.
12:26:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:26:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE WE DONE FOR THIS ITEM FOR NOW?
12:26:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:26:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY ONLY REQUEST WHEN WE COME BACK, 64 ALREADY
71 AND 72 HAVE TO DO WITH STORMWATER.
AND GREAT IF WE CAN HEAR THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
JUST A -- I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD 71 AND 72 TO 64, WHICH
WILL BE NEXT WHEN WE GET BACK.
12:26:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL --
12:27:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I?
12:27:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:27:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ITEM NUMBER 70 IS NOT MY MOTION.
IT WAS MADE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
AND IN TALKING TO SEVERAL FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, COUNCIL
MEMBER GUDES, LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
PROPOSAL BY THE COMMUNITY, EVEN THOSE IN FAVOR OF USING THIS
GENTLEMAN'S NAME WANT TO KEEP THE NAME FAIR OAKS.
A PROPOSAL FLOATED BY THE COMMUNITY TO NAME A BUILDING LIKE
THE PROMENADE BUILDING AFTER MR. GAMBRELL.
I THROW THAT ON TABLE FOR A DISCUSSION.
NOT MY MOTION.
IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO START THE PROCESS ON THAT, WE CAN
TALK ABOUT IT.
IF YOU DON'T, WE CAN END IT.
12:27:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER.
12:27:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. GUDES SAID IT TO ALL OF US AT.
WITH FAIR OAKS WITH THE NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING NAMED
ART BELL JR.
MR. GRAHAM BELL HAD 45 YEARS WORKING DILIGENTLY
AND HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HIS COMMUNITY TO GET JOBS IN
THE CITY SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND THIS IS NOT UNIQUE.
MANY YEARS AGO, IT WAS STEINBRENNER STADIUM.
IT WAS YANKEE STADIUM.
MYSELF AND ROSALIE AT THAT LED THE CHARGE TO CHANGE IT TO
YANKEE STADIUM.
GEORGE STEINBRENNER FIELD.
THAT IS HOW IT STARTED.
BASICALLY THE SAME THING.
12:28:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN.
12:28:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT AND WHAT I
TRIED TO DO EARLIER FOR THE DISCUSSION.
WE NEED TO REMOVE ITEM 70 FROM THE AGENDA SO THIS PARK
REMAINS FAIR OAKS AND PLACE SAVING AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY
UNDERSTANDS WHERE IT IS.
AND I THINK -- AND MAYBE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
WE HAVE A PROCESS.
RENAMING BUILDING AND SOMETHING ELSE AS TRIBUTE TO
MR. GAMBRELL SR. TO START THAT PROCESS AND SOMEBODY NEEDS
TO TAKE OWNERSHIP TO WALK IT FLEW.
12:28:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO THIS RECEIVE AND FILE ON THE
RECORD.
12:28:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:29:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:29:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EXCUSE ME, HELLO.
12:29:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:29:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST TO RECEIVE AND FILE WITH AN E-MAIL.
12:29:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
12:29:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WILL ITEM 70 BE DISCUSSED AFTER LUNCH?
12:29:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT.
12:29:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PRIOR CONVERSATION PRIOR TO LUNCH
HAPPENING NOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.
THE PUBLIC IS PROBABLY FOLLOWING THIS AS WELL.
SOB RATHER THAN SPEAK TWICE, I WILL JUST WAIT UNTIL AFTER,
BECAUSE I DO HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS REGARDING THIS.
AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATION
THAT EXISTS BE HEARD.
WHILE I APPRECIATE THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER'S LETTER.
HE IS NOW A PUBLIC CITIZEN AND HIS LETTER CAN BE ENTERED
INTO THE RECORD, BUT TO READ IT PUBLICLY I THINK WILL BE
INAPPROPRIATE.
IF HE WANTS TO COME AND MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS, HE HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT THIS MORNING.
BUT TO HAVE HIM STAND OUT WITH A LETTER IS UNACCEPTABLE AS
THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE.
I AM SAYING THAT PUBLICLY AND SAYING THAT TO ALL OF MY
COUNCILMEMBERS.
I SEE IT AS A FORM OF DISRESPECT.
NEVERTHELESS, WITH WE WILL DISCUSS THIS ITEM AFTER LUNCH AND
CHAIR I WILL SPEAK AT THIS TIME REGARDING IT.
12:30:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY, WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:45.
12:30:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
01:51:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL CALL THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
MEETING TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
01:51:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
01:51:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
01:51:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
01:51:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
01:51:39PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:51:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
HE UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WILL BE GETTING
BACK ON.
01:51:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE OPEN THE 130
HEARINGS.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON IS HERE AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS
ONLINE.
ITEM NUMBER 56, THERE IS A LETTER REQUESTING THAT THIS BE
CONTINUED --
01:52:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO A DATE TO BE DETERMINED?
01:52:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TO DETERMINE THE DATE.
01:52:14PM >> MAY 15.
01:52:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 56 TO MAY 15.
01:52:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN -- WAIT A SECOND, I AM SORRY.
SLOW THINGS DOWN IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THE PETITIONER, IF WE CAN HAVE THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD.
01:52:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
WHAT IS YOUR NAME.
01:52:28PM >> CONSTANTINO COSTAS.
01:52:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE.
MR. MICHELINI, HAD YOU REQUESTED THAT IN WRITING?
OR YOU DID THAT?
01:52:40PM >> HE REQUESTED AND DETERMINED THE DATE ACCORDING TO STAFF
MAY 15.
01:52:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AN AVAILABLE DATE, MADAM.
01:52:48PM >>CLERK:
CLERK IT IS.
01:52:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ITEM 56.
01:52:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SIR, YOUR NAME WITH THE RED TIE.
01:52:57PM >> STEPHEN MICHELINI.
01:53:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MOTION TO CONTINUE.
01:53:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL MAY 15.
01:53:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AT 1:30.
01:53:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
315 E. KENNEDY.
YOU WOULD THINK I WOULD LISTEN TO THAT ENOUGH.
01:53:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
5:01 IS THE TIME FOR THE EVENING.
01:53:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I CANNOT HEAR ANYONE.
01:53:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN YOU HEAR ANYONE, COUNCILWOMAN?
01:53:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN'T SEE YOU.
01:53:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SHE NEEDS TO CLOSE THE SHADE BEHIND HER.
01:53:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU IN JAIL?
01:53:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAYBE SHE CAN SIGN OUT AND SIGN IN.
01:53:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?
01:54:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE AND A
SECOND.
SECOND BY MR. VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
01:54:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AGAIN, MAY 15.
01:54:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 15, 315 E. KENNEDY.
A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM 57.
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
WE ARE GOING TO START OFF NOW WITH 64.
AND WE ARE GOING TO TIE IT INTO -- YEAH, 64, 71 AND 72.
OKAY.
01:54:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST -- I WANTED TO SAY THAT DURING MY PREP
MEETING, FOUR THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH STORMWATER NOW, I
AM ASKING THAT THEY COME AND BRING MAPS AND PHOTOS SO THAT
THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING WHEN
IT COMES TO STORMWATER PROJECT.
SO THAT IS WHAT HE IS GOING -- SOME OF WHAT -- WHAT
MR. BHIDE WILL PRESENT TO US TODAY.
01:55:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 64.
01:55:13PM >>VIK BHIDE:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, COUNCIL.
VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY.
ITEM 64 IS A CONTRACT.
A MEMO SUBMITTED BY ADMINISTRATOR BAIRD.
HE IS ONLINE, IF NEEDED FOR THE REHAB OF TWO DITCHES, THE
ONE ON GRADY AVENUE NEAR SPRUCE STREET ON THE EAST SIDE AND
THE OTHER IS 43rd STREET CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WAS
COORDINATED WITH OUR OPERATIONS TEAM.
SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS NOW AND SOME OF THESE
-- ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AS THEY GO ONLINE FEATURE IN THE
QUARTERLY REPORT.
AND THESE ARE MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT OUR OPERATION MAY NOT
BE ABLE TO DO BECAUSE THEY INVOLVE SIGNIFICANT REHAB WORK
AND ALL.
SO WE USE CONTRACTORS.
AND THIS CONTRACT WITH FERREIRA IS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THESE
TWO DITCHES.
ONE IS THE 43rd --
01:56:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I AM NOT ABLE TO HEAR.
01:56:12PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE 43rd STREET DITCH WHICH IS -- SIGNIFICANT
REHAB NEED OUT HERE.
AND HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE 43rd STREET DITCH.
THIS IS EAST OF 50TH, NORTH OF THE CSX LINE.
01:56:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WALKED OUT.
01:56:38PM >>VIK BHIDE:
NO WORRIES AT ALL.
FIRST PROJECT IS A 43rd STREET DITCH.
HERE A PICTURE OF IT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT REHAB NEEDED.
A LOT OF EROSION ON ONE SIDE AS WELL.
SO THIS WILL BE STABILIZED.
ANOTHER PICTURE OF THIS DITCH IN ANOTHER PORTION.
AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF A CITY THAT IS INDUSTRIAL --
01:57:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU CAN HEAR ME?
THAT IS INTERESTING.
01:57:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON?
OKAY.
01:57:15PM >>VIK BHIDE:
HERE IS ANOTHER IMAGE OF IT.
AND IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THESE DITCHES.
THE REHAB WORK FOR THIS IS GOING TO BE -- THERE WILL BE
CONCRETE ALONG THE BANKS, DIRT AT THE BOTTOM.
WHAT THAT WILL DO IS STABILIZE THE WALLS BECAUSE THEY ARE
VERY STEEP.
IT WILL RELATIVE TO THE FUNCTION TODAY TO ADD TO THE
CAPACITY, BUT TECHNICALLY, IT WON'T, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF
THE SAME SYSTEM.
BUT WATER WILL FLOW MUCH BETTER THROUGH HERE WITHOUT
INTERRUPTION.
AND THIS KIND OF CONCRETE WORK THAT OUR OPERATIONS FOLKS
CANNOT DO.
IT ALSO EXTENDS THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE SYSTEM.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS.
OTHER IS IN THE WESTSHORE AREA.
THE WEST SHORE ALLIANCE AREA BY GRADY AND SPRUCE.
AND HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF IT.
A LOT OF OVERGROWTH IN THESE DITCHES AS WELL AND A LOT OF
OTHER VEGETATION THAT KIND OF IMPACT THE FUNCTIONALITY AND THE
DRAINAGE OF THE DITCH AND HENCE THE CONTRACT WORK TO MAYBE
REHABS TO THIS.
ANOTHER PICTURE WITH PALMS AND OVERGROWTH IN THE AREA THAT,
THAT FACT, IMPACTS DRAINAGE.
I WILL HAVE TO SAY THIS ISN'T ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE
STRUCTURAL FLOODING WAS REPORTED DURING THE LAST TWO STORMS,
BUT THESE PROJECTS ARE PLANNED YEARS OUT AND THE WORK THAT
IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE AS JEFF OUR CHIEF HE THINKS NEAR
OVER STORMWATER.
WORK ON THE GRADY DITCH WILL BE IN ESSENCE WORKING ON THE
BANKS, CLEARING OUT ALL OF THE DEBRIS.
THIS INVOLVES ACTUALLY ADDING A PIPE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE
DITCH AND WITH SOME COVER ON TOP.
BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THE
FUNCTIONALITY OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM AND IMPROVING DRAINAGE.
THE TOTAL COST FOR BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE $3.5 MILLION.
3.4 MILLION.
AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:59:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:59:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE PURPOSE -- THE FIRST DITCH YOU
DESCRIBED THAT YOU WILL CONCRETE REINFORCE THE BANKS.
I AM ASSUMING THAT IS BECAUSE THAT IS A GRAVITY FLOW TO SHED
WATER AWAY FROM THAT AREA.
NOT A PERCULATION AREA.
01:59:41PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE MAIN REASON FOR THE CONCRETE BANKING IS IT
IS STEEPER AND THERE IS EROSION.
BECAUSE THERE IS EROSION, THE WAY TO FIRM UP THAT BANK WOULD
BE TO ADD CONCRETE.
01:59:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY WOULDN'T WE CULVERT IT?
01:59:54PM >>VIK BHIDE:
COST WOULD BE ONE.
AND THEN ANY OTHER REASON?
01:59:58PM >> THAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON.
02:00:00PM >>VIK BHIDE:
COST WOULD BE -- ALL OF THESE ARE BENEFIT OVER
COST CALCULATIONS.
02:00:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
SO -- WHERE DOES THIS WATER GO IN THIS PARTICULAR DRAINAGE
AREA?
02:00:13PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SO AT 43rd, THIS OUTFLOWS FURTHER SOUTH TO
A STREAM IN THE AREA THAT FALLS -- DO YOU KNOW WHERE?
02:00:23PM >> MaCKAY.
02:00:24PM >>VIK BHIDE:
MaCKAY BUT TO WHERE.
02:00:26PM >> NORTH OF MACKAY BAY.
02:00:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH WATER -- OBVIOUSLY I DON'T KNOW WHEN
THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN BUT IS THAT THE WATER TABLE THAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT?
02:00:38PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THIS WAS TAKEN YESTERDAY.
THIS IS THE WATER TABLE AND THE RAIN ITSELF.
02:00:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO RAIN.
IS THAT FROM THE GROUNDWATER?
02:00:47PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS POOLING BECAUSE THE WATER
IS NOT MOVING WELL OR NOT.
I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT KIND OF A GRADE
LINE.
AND IT'S NOT.
02:00:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM CURIOUS IF THIS WILL ACTUALLY SOLVE
ANY PROBLEMS IF NOT REPLACING THE WATER.
AND YOUR STRUCTURE.
YOUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER.
02:01:05PM >>VIK BHIDE:
OUR CHIEF ENGINEER.
THIS IS A HEAVY MAINTENANCE PROJECT.
AND GOING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS
A PROBLEM IDENTIFIED WHERE REHAB WAS NEEDED FOR THE DITCH.
AND IT WAS SO MUCH WORK THAT IT COULDN'T BE ACCOMPLISHED BY
OPERATIONS ALONE.
02:01:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IS IT BECAUSE OF
THE RISK OF THE ADJACENT FACILITY AND THE LAND, PRIVATE
LANDHOLDER TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THE LAND?
02:01:31PM >>VIK BHIDE:
PARTLY, YES.
02:01:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT NECESSARILY A WATER REPLACEMENT SHALL
ISSUE, SHORING UP TO PROTECT THE ADJACENT LANDOWNER.
02:01:39PM >>VIK BHIDE:
IT IS WORTH, ACTUALLY.
02:01:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STRUCTURALLY HOW YOU ENGINEER THIS FOR THE
AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT HERE, WHAT IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT
ON THIS PROJECT?
WHAT IS THE OUTCOME?
WHAT IS THE EXPECTED GAIN?
02:01:53PM >> JEFF DEBOSIER, CITY STORMWATER DIVISION.
WE DIDN'T DO A RATE OF RETURN ANALYSIS OF THIS.
THIS WAS A MAINTENANCE REQUEST BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT
MAINTAIN THE DITCH ANY LONGER.
AND, YOU KNOW, SLOPE STABILIZATION ISSUES.
THE BANK WAS COLLAPSING ON THE PARKING LO LOT SIDE FOR THAT
INDUSTRIAL PARK THERE AND BEGINNING TO USE THEIR PARKING
LOT.
BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY -- THEY HAD TO REINFORCE THE
BANKS BECAUSE OF THE STEEP SLOPES, THE CONCRETE SLOPE, WAS
ENGINEERED BY OUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.
02:02:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DESIGNED THAT WAY ORIGINALLY OR A
PROGRESSION OF EROSION?
02:02:34PM >> NO, IT WAS DESIGNED AS AN OPEN GRASS DITCH.
02:02:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE STEEPNESS OF THESE BANKS.
IS IT TIME -- OR A CHEAPER WAY TO MITIGATE THIS AND MAKE IT
LESS STEEP?
RATHER THAN -- IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO POUR CONCRETE
AND A DITCH IS SUPPOSED TO SHED WATER.
02:02:56PM >> IT IS NOT UNCOMMON.
DITCH LINE OR CONCRETE DITCH LINE.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF THIS DITCH, AND I AM PRESUMING
BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS PROBABLY
BUILT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE
CHEAPEST WAY THEY COULD BUILD IT FOR WE ACCEPTED THAT FOR
MAINTENANCE.
02:03:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:03:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:03:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION, BUT QUITE A FEW
CANALS ESPECIALLY IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I DID A TOUR OF LAND CANAL.
AND THOSE ARE ALL CONCRETE SO I GET --
02:03:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GET THAT BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE
WATER IS TO SHED WATER TO THE OUTFLOW, IT IS NOT A
PERCOLATION.
IT SEEMS WHEN YOU ARE SO FAR AWAY FROM IT -- BECAUSE THAT
PARTICULAR AREA IS QUITE A DIFFERENCE FROM THE WATER
OUTFLOW, CORRECT?
02:03:52PM >>VIK BHIDE:
NOT NECESSARILY WHERE THIS OUTFALLS TOO.
BECAUSE IT OUTFALLS TO A STREAM, BUT EVEN WITH THE CONCRETE
SIDES ON THE DITCH, THE BOTTOM IS STILL DIRT FOR WATER
QUALITY.
02:04:03PM >> DIG IT OUT TO IMPROVE THE PERCOLATION?
02:04:07PM >>VIK BHIDE:
MORE FOR WATER QUALITY AND THAT HAPPENS BY
PERCOLATION, YEAH.
02:04:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, VERY GOOD.
02:04:14PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE IDEA IS TO CONVEY THE WATER TO THE OUTFALL
AND NOT --
02:04:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE PREMISE OF THE BEGINNING OF THE
QUESTION.
EN TENDED FOR PERCOLATION OR SHED WATER AWAY.
02:04:26PM >>VIK BHIDE:
INTENDED TO MOVE WATER.
02:04:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?
IF NOT, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION.
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
IS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BACK ON?
OKAY.
AND CAN SHE HEAR US?
02:04:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, SIR.
YES, I CAN.
02:04:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
MA'AM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEM 64?
OKAY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT.
02:04:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
02:04:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
02:05:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
02:05:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
02:05:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
02:05:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:05:09PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:05:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL CONTINUE WITH 71 AND 72
REGARDING BACK-UP GENERATORS AND SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS FOR
FLOODING CHALLENGES.
MR. BHIDE, GO AHEAD.
02:05:26PM >>VIK BHIDE:
VIK BHIDE WITH MOBILITY.
ITEMS 71 AND 72 BOTH RELATE TO NORTH TAMPA.
71 IS ABOUT SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS, STORMWATER SOLUTIONS IN THE
NORTH TAMPA AREA.
AND ITEM TWO RELATES TO GENERATORS, BUT I WILL SPEAK TO CITY
WIDE.
HANDOUTS THAT I JUST SHARED, THAT IS OUR UPGRADE PROPOSAL
FOR THE GENERATORS AND WE WILL TOUCH UPON THAT IN A SECOND.
I WILL START WITH THE SHORT HAD BEEN TERM SOLUTIONS.
I WILL START BY SAYING WE HAVE A PAVING PROJECT ON N.
BOULEVARD FROM BUSCH BOULEVARD TOWARD COUNTRY CLUB ROAD THAT
WILL HAPPEN BEFORE SUMMER.
A MEMO TO THAT AFFECT WAS ISSUED AS WELL.
THAT DOES HELP MOVE WATER TO THE SYSTEM BETTER AND AS WE
WORK TOWARD INSTALLING PERMANENT GENERATORS AT ALL OF
THE PUMP STATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE GENERATORS TODAY, WE ARE
WORKING AND A SHOUT OUT TO TEAM LAMB, ADRI AND HER STAFF,
PARTICULARLY AUBY AND JOHN, THEY ARE REALLY HELPING US OUT.
EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, WE ISSUED A P.O. -- OR ARE WORK ON
A P.O. FOR $125,000 TO CARTER ELECTRIC THAT WILL FINALIZE
THE AVAILABILITY OF GENERATORS THAT WILL BE STAGED AT ALL
PUMP STATIONS.
WE HAVE 16 PUMP STATIONS, 14 OF THEM WE WILL STAGE AT.
TWO OF THE PUMP STATIONS WE WILL STILL GO OUT THERE WITH
AUXILIARY PUMPS.
THESE ARE SMALLER PUMP STATIONS AND CONNECT THE HOSE TO THE
SYSTEM, IF NEEDED SO THAT IN PLACE.
THAT CONTRACTOR.
WE SPOKE WITH EARLIER TODAY AND WHAT THAT WILL MEAN IS BY
THIS SUMMER, OUR PUMP STATIONS WILL HAVE GENERATORS.
THEY WILL BE RAISED ABOVE THE LAST KNOWN FLOODING LEVEL AS
WELL.
SO WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT WITH CARTER ELECTRIC.
THEY UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE.
THERE WILL BE STAGED SOME TIME BEFORE JUNE 1.
THERE WILL BE TESTED, WIRED, ACTIVATED AND STAGED.
WE ALSO HAVE A FUELING PLAN IN PLACE TO GO AHEAD AND FUEL
THOSE GENERATORS AS NEEDED ONCE WE SWITCH THE GENERATOR
POWER BEFORE A STORM.
SO BEFORE ANY MAJOR STORM, WE WILL GO OUT THERE TO THE PUMP
STATION -- IF THERE IS A POND, AS ALWAYS, REDUCE THE POND
LEVELS, SWITCH THE GENERATOR POWER.
SO THAT IN CASE OF A POWER LOSS, THAT PUMP STATIONS STILL
CONTINUE TO OPERATE.
AND THEN THROUGH THE STORM, AND THEN AFTER THE STORM,
RESPOND WITH A FUELING PLAN.
AND WHEN I SAY "THROUGH THE STORM," ONLY IF IT IS SAFE TO
GET OUT THERE.
WE HAVE ADDED TO OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AN ERC CREW FOR
PITCH STATIONS.
SO TWO PEOPLE THAT WILL DEDICATED TO PUMP STATIONS THAT WILL
HUNKER DOWN WITH OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTER 3, OUR ERC 3.
HUNKER DOWN AT THE SCHOOL IN EAST TAMPA AND THEY WILL BE
AVAILABLE AND MOBILIZE EVEN AT NIGHT, IF NEEDED, IF IT IS
SAFE TO GET OUT THERE.
TYPICALLY, WE DON'T GET EQUIPMENT OUT THERE AT NIGHT, BUT
FUELING IS POSSIBLE AND SWITCHING TO GENERATOR AND POWERING
OFF.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AN INSTRUMENTATION ACCOUNT WHICH IS
ICON WHICH IS WHAT OUR WASTEWATER TEAM USES AS WELL.
ALL OF THIS IS IN PLACE FOR THIS SUMMER TODAY.
WE ARE ALSO IN TOUCH WITH THE COUNTY.
OUR STORMWATER ENGINEERING MANAGER CONFIRMED SHE IS IN TOUCH
WITH GG. GAL FOR THE COUNTY AND TRYING TO GET TO THE
CONSULTANT THEY HIRED AS WELL.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD DIRECTLY FROM BLACK & VEATCH, BUT WE LOOK
FORWARD TO COORDINATION BECAUSE BOTH AREAS IN NORTH TAMPA
THAT WERE MOST ADVERSELY AFFECTED HAVE SEEN CROSS COUNTY AND
CITY BOUNDARIES IN THE AREA AS WELL.
THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THE LAST STORM
SEASON RELATIVE TO THE PUMP STATIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT?
ITEM 71?
02:09:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER --
02:09:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VIERA FIRST AND THEN CLENDENIN.
02:10:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN GO AFTER ME TO WRAP IT UP.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
THE PUMPS THAT YOU ARE ADDING AS PERSONAL MAN IN THE
INSTALLATIONS.
ARE THEY HOUSED INSIDE OF A FACILITY?
02:10:20PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THAT IS ITEM 72.
AND I WILL SPEAK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
02:10:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLEARLY YOU LISTENED TO THE LESSONS
LEARNED ON THIS.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THE
ISSUES WE ADDRESSED LAST SUMMER AND THINGS WE HAVE NOT
FORESEEN.
CONGRATULATION ON THAT COVERING AN ACTION PLAN IF WE HAVE
ANOTHER INCIDENT AND WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED TO US.
KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
02:10:49PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU.
02:10:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:10:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. BHIDE -- MAYBE I ALLOW HIM TO DO 72.
MINE WILL BE SHORT.
02:11:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD WITH 72.
02:11:05PM >>VIK BHIDE:
72 IS KIND OF A MORE MID-TERM PROPOSAL TO ADD
THESE GENERATORS AT LOCATION THAT DON'T EXIST.
AND THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS TO IT.
ONE IS THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE IS TO ADD GENERATORS.
AND THE OTHER IS A MIDTERM SOLUTION THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
I WILL TOUCH UPON THAT REAL QUICK.
AT COPELAND PARK AND LANTANA AND POINSETTIA, WE WILL BE ADDING
NEW PUMP STATIONS.
ONE IS IN JOCKEY FOR CONSTRUCTION AT THE PARK.
SMALLER PUMP STATIONS LANTANA IS BEING DESIGNED AS WE SPEAK.
I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE YET, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
SCOPE WILL BE EXACTLY TO IMPLEMENT.
BUT COPELAND PARK WILL HAPPEN MUCH SOONER WITHIN THE YEAR.
AND AS FAR AS THE RESILIENCY UPGRADE PROPOSAL, THE HANDOUT
THAT I JUST GAVE TO YOU ALL.
THE BUSINESS OF IT IS REALLY IN LIGHT OF OUR RESILIENCY
NEEDS AND OUR CURRENT PUMP STATIONS AND SYSTEMS.
THE QUESTION WAS ASKED INTERNALLY AND BY COUNCIL, WHAT CAN
WE TO DO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THERE IS A POWER
OUTAGES, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND OPERATE THE
SYSTEMS.
SO THE OBJECTIVE IS TO INCREASE RESILIENCY AND RELIABILITY
OF THE PUMP STATIONS THEMSELVES DURING PERIODS OF MAJOR RAIN
EVENTS AND WIDESPREAD POWER OUTAGES.
THAT POWER OUTAGES THAT REALLY TAKES A LOT OF THE PUMP
STATIONS OFFLINE AND ALSO FOR THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY STAFF
TO REMOTELY MONITOR WHAT IS HAPPENING OUT THERE BOTH THROUGH
WATER LEVELS CENTERS AND CAMERAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
CONTINUOUSLY DURING MAJOR EVENTS.
SO THAT IS WHAT WILL ALLOW USES TO MAYBE DEPLOY FOLKS THAT
ARE HUNKERED DOWN WHEN POSSIBLE TO -- TO MAKE ANY NECESSARY
ADJUSTMENTS, BUT WE WILL ALREADY BE ON GENERATOR POWER BY
THEN.
SO VARIOUS UPGRADES ARE DETAILED IN THIS PROPOSAL WILL TO
BEGIN WITH ADDING GENERATORS WHERE NONE EXIST.
THESE GENERATORS WILL EITHER BE INSIDE EXISTING PUMP HOUSES
OR IN CERTAIN CASES WHERE WE HAVE SMALLER PUMP STATIONS
OUR MORE EXTERNAL PUMP STATIONS WILL BE ON PADS THAT ARE
RAISED AT A LEVEL THAT IS HIGHER THAN THE FLOOD LEVELS THAT
WE EXPERIENCED LAST -- LAST SUMMER.
SO THESE WILL BE RAISED WELL ABOVE THE NORMAL FLOOD PLAIN IN
EFFECT.
AND WILL BE RESILIENT ENOUGH.
SO THAT IS THE -- WITH THE GENERATOR ADDITION.
THERE ARE SIZE TO THE PUMP SIZES THEMSELVES AND GET TO THE
LAST PAGE.
WE WILL GET TO THAT.
WATER SENSING EQUIPMENT WILL GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF THE
CONDITIONS UNDER GROUND.
AND ALSO THAT MESSAGE GOING TO INSTRUMENTATION OF THE
GENERATORS AND THE PUMPS. AND THE COMMUNICATION
EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T -- WE DON'T HAVE CELLULAR
COMMUNICATION TO THESE SYSTEMS, SO WE WILL BE UPGRADE TO
THAT.
THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS WITH
THEIR SYSTEM.
WE STILL HAVE A RADIO-BASED SYSTEM WHICH WORKS NOT AS WELL
AS THE CELLULAR COMMUNICATIONS.
AND LIVE CAMERAS FOR SECURITY AND MONITORING BECAUSE THAT
NOT ONLY ALLOWS US TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON THERE AND ALSO
SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY, HERE IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN TIME
AS WELL.
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, AS I MENTIONED THE LAST TIME.
OUR BEST SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS ONCE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE.
AND FUND ARE AVAILABLE -- YES, DENNIS IS AVAILABLE.
HE WILL CONFIRM THAT.
I WILL LET HIM SPEAK TO IT.
IT WILL TAKE US TWO YEARS.
BUT THAT IS OUR ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW.
I AM IN TOUCH WITH RICHARD, RICHARD MUTTERBACK OUR CAD
DIRECTOR TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE EVEN FASTER.
IF ANY WAY WE CAN MOVE THIS FASTER, WE WILL DO THAT.
INVOLVES DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AND GOES THROUGH CAD.
AND THIS IS A PROCUREMENT OR A PURCHASING TYPE OF SITUATION.
ATTACHMENT ONE IS THE PROJECT MAP.
AND THAT SHOWS OUR DIFFERENT PUMP STATIONS AND LOCATIONS.
AND THEN ATTACHMENT TWO WHICH I WILL PUT UP HERE -- I THINK
I HAD THIS UP LAST WEEK AS WELL.
SO THAT IS THE FINAL NUMBER.
$10.5 MILLION, INCLUDES CONTINGENCY BASED ON TODAY'S COST.
AND THE COST WAS ARRIVED AT BY JEFF AND HIS TEAM AFTER
CONSULTING WITH VENDORS, WITH OUR PEERS IN THE COUNTY AS
WELL.
AND ALSO STANDARD AVAILABLE PRICING THAT ARE USED FOR
ESTIMATION FOR DESIGN AND OTHER COSTS.
PRIORITIZED IN TWO LEVELS.
PRIORITY ONE IS WHERE WE HAD THE WORST FLOODING AND PRIORITY
TWO IS WHERE THERE IS RELATIVELY SPEAKING.
LESSER FLOODING.
OF COURSE, OUR GOAL WAS TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF THIS IN ONE
GOAL.
AND SINCE THE COST IS $10.5 MILLION, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED
THAT THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE SO WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED.
HOW THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE IF I COULD ASK DENNIS TO TOUCH
UPON THAT.
02:16:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE THAT -- BEFORE WE
GET TO THE MONEY STUFF.
02:16:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE STOP -- YES.
02:16:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF YOU WOULD --
02:16:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET --
02:16:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE VIERA FIRST.
02:16:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF YOU ALL -- ARE YOURS SHORT?
02:16:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MINE IS ONE QUESTION.
02:16:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HURTAK, CLENDENIN AND VIERA.
02:17:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS.
MY FIRST REQUEST IS THIS BE ADDED TO ON BASE POST -- THIS
PRESENTATION SO THE PUBLIC CAN REALLY LOOK AT IT.
I THINK SOMETIMES IT IS JUST HAVING THAT INFORMATION.
THE COST WE'LL TALK ABOUT.
HOW FREQUENTLY WILL THESE WHERE THESE GENERATORS BE TESTED.
02:17:26PM >> SO OUR SERVICE PLAN IS GOING TO BE QUARTERLY FOR THESE
GENERATORS.
DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TESTING SO I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC DETAILS
BUT EYES ON IT EVERY QUARTER IF NOT MORE FREQUENTLY.
02:17:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST TO HELP FOLKS UNDERSTAND.
71 AND 72 ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING TO
PUT PORTABLE BACK-UP GENERATORS AT EVERY STORMWATER --
02:18:01PM >>VIK BHIDE:
PUMP STATION.
02:18:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
IT JUST WASN'T COMING TODAY.
RIGHT NOW PUTTING PORTABLE GENERATORS AT EVERY STATION.
AND THOSE WILL BE READY BEFORE JUNE?
02:18:10PM >>VIK BHIDE:
CORRECT.
02:18:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE JUST WANT FOLKS TO KNOW THAT.
WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BEFORE JUNE.
BUT THIS IS A SECONDARY, LONGER TERM, PERMANENT FIX.
OKAY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS UNDERSTOOD THAT WE ARE
NOT WAITING UNTIL 2027 POSSIBLY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
THANK YOU.
02:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN, VIERA.
02:18:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AMI, WHAT STATION.
WHERE IS THAT.
02:18:38PM >>VIK BHIDE:
IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND UNDER THE PARKING LOT.
02:18:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OF MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION TO VERIFY WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING THERE.
PERFECT.
ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.
02:18:50PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE HAVE PAVING IN AT AREA AND STORMWATER UPGRADE.
02:18:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DITCH ISSUE MAINTENANCE.
WE HAVE MITIGATION.
02:18:58PM >>VIK BHIDE:
FOLKS ARE OUT THERE.
02:18:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. VIERA.
02:19:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS WHY WE ARE HAVING THAT COMMUNITY MEETING AND BY THE
WAY, WE WILL BE PUSHING IT TO APRIL.
HE SPOKE TO ADMINISTRATION DURING LUNCH.
GLAD TO DO IT.
THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE NEED FOR THAT.
WANT SOMEBODY FROM STORMWATER AND MOBILITY TO COME OUT AND
TELL THEM WHAT YOU SAID, AGAIN, I AM NOT AN EXPERT AND I
COULD MISSPEAK.
IN FACT, I PROBABLY WILL MISSPEAK.
WANT TO MAKE SURE.
I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT IN NORTH TAMPA TO HAVE SOME OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS TWO OR THREE FROM COPELAND PARK, FOREST
HILLS, OVERLOOK AND TOUR THE PUMP STATIONS BEFORE STORM
SEASON.
AGAIN, LIKE -- PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE VERY TRAUMATIZED.
ALL OVER TAMPA, THEY ARE TRAUMATIZED.
BUT AGAIN FOREST HILLS NOT IN A TRADITIONAL FLOOD ZONE.
ZONE X ONE IN 500 AND SO FORTH.
AND I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ASKED THIS BUT I AM MAKING SURE
AGAIN HAVE WE SPOKEN OF THIS PRIVATELY WHICH IS FOR THIS
FORTHCOMING STORM SEASON, ALL PUMPS WILL HAVE BACK-UP
GENERATORS?
02:20:08PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ALL PUMP STATIONS, YES.
02:20:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
VERY GOOD.
02:20:12PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO, 45th STREET AND
THE ONE OFF OF HOWARD AVENUE.
THEY ARE VERY SMALL PITCH STATIONS.
THEY ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
AND WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE AUXILIARY PUMPS WITH HOSES AND
DIRECT THEM TO THE EXISTING SYSTEM.
02:20:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT.
FOR NORTH TAMPA, A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES JUST LIKE
EVERYWHERE.
POND, MAINTENANCE, CULVERTS.
A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.
I FOCUS ON IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRAGEDY OF MILTON ON PUMPS
AND BACK-UP GENERATORS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE INFORMATION THAT
WAS RELEASED.
AND SO THAT IS WHY WHICH HAVE THAT MEETING.
LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS
LAST WEEK AND I FORGOT.
IS THERE ANY REQUESTS BEING MADE FOR PITCH UPGRADES AND
ASSISTANCE FROM TALLAHASSEE?
BECAUSE I BELIEVE -- I DON'T -- I AM NOT GOING TO SAY IT OR
SPEAK OUT OF TURN, ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT AT ALL?
02:21:09PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES.
THROUGH TALLAHASSEE, A COUPLE OF THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON.
ONE IS IT COMES THROUGH THE STATE AND THE STATE A INVOLVED.
THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, THE STATE AND THE FEDS ON
IDENTIFYING RESOURCES FOR THAT.
A LOT OF THOSE WOULD -- THIS WILL BE A GOLDEN GATE REQUEST
FOR THAT.
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THAT POINT.
SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE MADE
A REQUEST FOR FUNDING THROUGH CONGRESSWOMAN CASTOR'S OFFICE.
02:21:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MARVELOUS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOK FORWARD TO -- I WAS MEETING WITH
THE CONSULT.
AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY THEM.
I THINK THEY ARE STELLAR.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
AND YOU TALK TO THEM, AND YOU GO, OH, GOOD, LIKE WHERE YOU
ALL ARE GOING.
DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THIS.
BUT ALSO THE REVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED AND TRANSPARENCY
AND AN ISSUE WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE FUTURE MASTER PLAN WE ARE
SUPPOSED TO HAVE IN MANATEE CITY, TEMPLE TERRACE AND FOR THE
CITY OF TAMPA, THAT IS REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO THAT.
BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IMMEDIATE UPGRADES AND
AMENDMENTS WE MAKE TO OUR SYSTEM TO STRENGTHEN OUR SYSTEM TO
THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
CERTAIN THINGS THAT NO SOCIETY CAN PREVENT OR PREPARE FOR.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT BECAUSE WE NEED THE CONVERSATION WITH
THE TAXPAYERS, HOW MUCH DO WE NEED, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST
AND HOW DO WE GET THERE.
EVERYBODY THAT I TALK TO -- AGAIN, TALKING TO THE PEOPLE OF
NORTH TAMPA, THEY ARE DEVASTATED.
THAT A CONVERSATION THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO AS WELL.
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS AND THANK YOU.
02:23:00PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE PUMP STATION TOURS.
WHILE THE COUNTY'S STUDY IS HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, TO
UNDERSTAND, THIS BODY HAS APPROVED A $5 MILLION WATER SHED
MASTER PLAN THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER WAY AND WILL DO EXACTLY
THAT.
SO THANK YOU.
02:23:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR WAIT -- YOU WANT MR. ROGERO TO TALK
ABOUT THE MONEY.
02:23:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU GO AHEAD.
I WILL COME BACK.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS MORE TOO.
THANK YOU FOR THE SEGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND MAYBE A
LITTLE CONTRADICTORY.
WE DO PEOPLE A DISSERVICE WHEN WE TALK OF INVOLVE FLOODING.
IT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THERE IS FLOOD -- PONDS EVERYWHERE.
WE HAVE STREAMS AND LIVERS.
UNLESS YOU ARE SITTING ON TOP OF A PLATEAU.
THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF FLOODING.
I THINK WHAT YOU PRESENTED AND THIS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
PRESENTED AS WHOLE SALE APPROACH TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
MET DATING WHERE WE CAN.
OBVIOUSLY WE ARE TALKING OF FRESH WATER FLOODING BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, NOT MUCH THE CITY CITY OF TAMPA CAN DO FOR STORM
SURGE AND SALT WATER FLOODING.
WHAT IT BRINGS IN IT BRINGS IN AND WE HAVE TO BUILD AROUND
IT AS WE PLAN FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AND COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND THE STUFF THAT WE DO AS
COUNCIL HURTAK BRINGS UP IN OUR LAND USE POLICY HEARINGS.
BUT I HAVE GOT A QUESTION.
BECAUSE I STILL KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME MASSIVE INVESTMENT
IN DISTRICT FOUR, AND STILL AN AWFUL AT OF FRESH WATER
FLOODING AND I AM SEEING A LACK OF ACTION.
WE SEE A LOT OF -- EVEN AT BALLAST POINT AND THE SOUTH OF
GANDY AND MAJOR CULVERT ISSUES AROUND THE AREA.
WHAT IS OUR LONG-TERM VISION AND PLAN OR THE FRESH WATER
COMPONENT ON THOSE AREAS?
02:24:54PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SURE, THE MANHATTAN PROJECT IS UNDER WAY AND
INCREASE ACTIVITY NEAR EUCLID AND UNDER WAY AND UNDER
DESIGN.
THERE IS ANOTHER PROJECT IN DISTRICT FOUR WHICH IS GULFVIEW,
THAT IS AT 90% DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE HOPING THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGINS THIS YEAR BY SUMMER.
WE HAVE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROBABLY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ALSO.
02:25:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION.
02:25:24PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THEN WE HAVE A FEW OTHER PROJECTS, LIKE THE
LAND CANAL REHAB.
WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN DISTRICT FOUR SPECIFICALLY THAT
ARE GOING ON BUT THAT WILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT RELATIVE TO OUR
CHALLENGES.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THE SYSTEM, THE EXISTING SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE THE ONE
ON EUCLID BY CONCORDIA.
THAT IS AN INSUFFICIENT SYSTEM ALSO.
THE SYSTEM SIZE IS INEFFICIENT FOR THE TYPE OF STORMS IF WE
GET LAST YEAR TYPE OF EVENTS.
EVEN THE HEAVY RAINS THAT WE SAW EVERY OTHER DAY, YOU KNOW
TWO INCHES PLUS IN AN HOUR AND THIS KIND OF STUFF.
A LOT OF INVESTMENT NEEDED AND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S
POINTS.
OUR WATER SHED MASTER PLAN WILL INFORM WHAT THE INVESTMENTS
ARE AND PRIORITIZE THEM BASED ON RISK AS WELL.
02:26:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR GIVE MY IGNORANCE OF HELENE OR MILTON,
A LOT OF INLAND FLOODING IN THE PENINSULA WAS THERE DITCH --
I KNOW A LOT OF DITCH SHEDDING WATER SYSTEMS DOWN THERE.
WAS ANY OF THE FLOODING LIKE TO THE EAST OF WEST SHORE
ATTRIBUTED TO DITCH MAINTENANCE OR FRESH WATER OR ALL
INUNDATION OF SALT WATER?
02:26:50PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SO THEY ARE BOTH.
FIRST STORM WAS DIFFERENT.
02:26:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I REMEMBER THEM WELL.
02:26:55PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE WESTSHORE AREA IS LOW LYING AND TIDALLY
INFLUENCED EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE HURRICANES OR MAJOR SURGE
EVENTS.
IT WAS A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
AND WE HEARD ABOUT MAINTENANCE, YES, WE COULD USE MORE
RESOURCES.
02:27:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOUSE THE BEACH PARK.
02:27:16PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ABSOLUTELY.
02:27:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONTRIBUTE TO FLOODING.
02:27:22PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE PARK GETS IMPACTED BY BEACH WATER FLOODING.
WE FINISHED TV IN CONCORDIA AND WE NEED TO DO MORE INCHES AS
WELL.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO.
AND TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S MOTION WILL BE COMING IN MARCH
WITH A MONTHLY REPORT ON WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES
ARE.
AND A MAINTENANCE PLAN.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE THIS MONTH AND NEXT MONTH.
YOU SEE MORE TV INSPECTION.
02:27:53PM >> THE REASON I QUERY THAT YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AND SEE ALL
THIS UP HERE AND NOTHING DOWN HERE AND KNOWING HOW MUCH
DEVASTATION WAS DOWN HERE.
PEOPLE WILL SAY, HEY, MY HOUSE IS FLOODED.
I CAN HEAR PEOPLE SAYING THAT.
02:28:07PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SURE, THE PUMP STATIONS ARE ONE THING.
OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE MORE FOCUSED.
02:28:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:28:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND CARLSON.
02:28:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
GO BACK TO THE CITYWIDE CHART.
I KNOW PEOPLE WILL HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION
ABOUT IT.
NUMBER THREE SAYS PUMP STATION DOES NOT APPLY FLOOD RELIEF.
KIND OF FUNNY IN A WEIRD WAY.
WHAT THAT MEANS AND IT WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE?
02:28:40PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE FIRST IS AMI, THE PUMP STATION PUMPS WEST
INTO THE CLEVELAND SYSTEM.
AND IT DOESN'T A HE REALLY -- IT IS NOT VERY EFFECTIVE WHAT
IT DOES IS IT MOVE WATER FROM THERE.
BUT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE CREATING A MOVEMENT OF THE PROBLEM
FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER.
02:28:59PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE SAME ON YORK.
MAY NEED TO PHONE A FRIEND ON YORK.
02:29:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE ONE PHONE A FRIEND, YES.
02:29:11PM >> JEFF DEBOSE.
AMI AND YORK STREET ARE BOTH BASICALLY SET UP TO RECOVER THE
VOLUME AFTER A STORM EVENT.
THEY ARE NOT EFFECTIVE DURING A STORM EVENT.
SO IT IS ALL ABOUT RECOVERING THE VOLUME AFTER A STORM EVENT
IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT ONE.
SO WE HAVE MORE VOLUME THERE.
02:29:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
02:29:33PM >> QUITE FRANKLY -- AMI, WE HOPE THAT MAYBE WE CAN ABANDON THAT
STATION WITH OUR SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
WE WOULD LIKE FOR THAT POND TO TRAIN SOUTH TO THE BAY AND
NOT RELY ON THAT STATION.
A LOT OPERATION OF MAINTENANCE AND EFFORT TO COPE A STATION
RUNNING TO RECOVER A FEW FEET OF WATER AFTER AN EVENT.
IT IS NOT TERRIBLY EFFECTIVE IS THE POINT.
02:30:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
IF YOU CAN PUT THE MAP UP SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY SEE AND
THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I WILL GIVE PEOPLE A FEW SECONDS TO LOOK AT THE MAP.
THANK YOU.
02:30:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON.
02:30:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN STARTED
WEIGHING IN ON THE OTHER PART OF THE CITY, I WANTED TO DO
THAT REAL FAST.
VIK AND JEFF AND EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THIS.
THIS IS NEEDED AND WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY ON THAT.
PART OF THE PICTURE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
ANYONE WHO MISSED THE LARGER CONVERSATION OF THE CITY WIDE
STORMWATER MARIN AND THINGS HAPPENING IN SOUTH TAMPA.
PLEASE WATCH LAST WEEK'S MORNING MEETING.
LAST THURSDAY MORNING MIDEAST AGENT CITY COUNCIL.
A LONG DISCUSSION OF THE OVERALL PLAN AND COME BACK TO TALK
ABOUT IT ON MAY 22.
AND THE CONSULTANT THAT IS LEADING THE MASTER PLANNING FOR
THE CITY WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.
THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME PUSHING THE IDEA
OF THE -- OF THE PUMPS TO THE MEDIA AND GOTTEN A LOT OF
COVERAGE AND SOME OF THESE BIG TOWN MEETINGS HAVE GOTTEN
COVERAGE.
THESE ARE EASY THINGS AND EASY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND AND
EASY TO FIX BY PUTTING A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO IT.
VIK SAID THE OVERALL SOLUTION TO PREENVIRONMENT AND STOPPED
INTO SOMETHING MORE COMPLICATED.
SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH TAMPA WAS FLOODED WITH
WASTEWATER.
AND A WHOLE DIFFERENT APARTMENT AND ONE COUNTY ISSUE IS NOT
HAVING A BACKUP GENERATOR.
BUT THE BUMP WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT STORM SURGE.
IF THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE DOESN'T COME UP WITH IDEAS.
I GUESS WE WILL AT THIS POINT TO HEAR FLORIDA EXPERTS ON
THAT.
NOT VIK'S DEPARTMENT, BUT WE NEED TO TEAL WITH STORM SURGE
AS WELL.
MAINTENANCE IS A BIG ISSUE, AND I AM SURE THE ADMINISTRATION
DOESN'T LIKE TO BE FAULTED WITH ANYTHING.
THEY COULD BE FAULTED WITH NOT HAVING GENERATORS.
INSTEAD OF FAULT AND BLAME, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE WE NEED
TO GO FROM HERE.
WE ARE WHERE WE ARE AND PEOPLE WRING THEIR HANDS AND BLAME.
BUT THE PROBLEM WHAT THE CITY IS DOING.
AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE THEM LONG TERM.
THE NEW NORMAL, THE 500-YEAR FLOOD MAY BE THE NEW NORMAL.
WE CAN'T PLAN WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT.
WE KNOW AS VIK ALLUDED TO, WE NEED NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE NEED TO BUILD NEW SYSTEMS THAT ANTICIPATE THE LARGER
THING.
OTHER THING WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IS PERMITTING AND
ZONING.
AT LEAST TWO OR THREE AREAS OF SOUTH TAMPA.
HOUSES WERE PERMITTED LITERALLY IN RETENTION PONDS.
JEFF AND I DROVE OUT TO A FEET -- MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSE
SIX FEET BELOW THE ROAD, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WAS
PERMITTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT PERMITTING AS WELL.
IN SOUTH TAMPA, ANYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED AND WATCHING, WE
ARE NOT HAVING BIG TOWN MEETINGS BECAUSE EVERY PROBLEM IS
DIFFERENT.
EVEN IN BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS FOR
DIFFERENT REASONS AND STAFF IS KIND ENOUGH TO GO OUT WITH ME
AND OTHERS TO LOOK AT THAT.
WE HAD A BIG TOWN HALL MEETING WITH FEMA AT ONE POINT, BUT
INSTEAD OF HAVE A BIG MEETING AND HAVE SMALLER MEETINGS SO
PEOPLE CAN ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HIT.
WE TALK OF MONEY, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS MONEY IS
COMING FROM, BUT IT IS NOT A QUESTION -- VIK, JUST A
COMMENT.
I BELIEVE FOR SEVERAL REASONS THAT THE NOW -- ESPECIALLY
FROM HAVING PUBLIC RECORDS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE
PULLED, THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT IS NOT SUFFICIENT AND NOT
WORK.
$65 MILLION AND $65 MILLION IN INTEREST.
I WAS NOT ON THE PREVAILING SIDE.
I WILL ASK ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES TO REOPEN IT.
BRING IT BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
LET THE PEOPLE FROM PARKLAND ESTATES.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE FROM PARKLAND ESTATES WHO
ARE AGAINST IT TO COME AND PEOPLE FROM HOWARD AVENUE TO
COME.
THEY WANT A REAL SOLUTION.
THEY DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT WILL TAKE FOUR YEARS TO WORK.
EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT PROPOSED -- OR SUPPORTED THAT SOLUTION,
THEY ARE COMING AROUND ASKING FOR A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION THAT
THEY BOOTED US FOR PROPOSING BEFORE.
CANCEL THAT PROJECT $65 MILLION -- WHATEVER THE $65 MILLION
WE CAN SPEND ON OTHER MAINTENANCE NOW INCLUDING PALMA CEIA,
PINES AND PARKLAND ESTATES AND FIX THE FLOODING
PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE.
MANY EXPERTS HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE AREA AND KNOW MAINTENANCE
AND PUMP FIXING AND OTHER THINGS THAT COST A LOT LESS THAN
$130 MILLION.
I WILL ASK IF NOTED TO OR SOME POINT MY COLLEAGUES PUT THAT
BACK ON THE ONLY.
AND ASK THE ADMINISTRATION NOW FROM PUBLIC RECORDS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS -- THERE WAS COORDINATION BETWEEN THE
ADMINISTRATION AND THE -- AND THE PEOPLE WHO PUSHED FOR THAT
PROJECT.
THAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE, AND WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT AGAIN.
INSTEAD HEAR THE AUTHENTIC WORDS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF
HOW THEY FEEL AND SHOULDN'T SKEW BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROJECT
AND WANT A QUICK FIX.
CANCEL THAT AND PROVIDE REAL HELP, IMMEDIATE HELP IN THE
NEXT RAINFALL, NOT NOW.
02:35:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, MAYBE THIS IS A
QUESTION FOR MR. BHIDE.
BECAUSE I WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE FOR SOUTH HOWARD.
SAME TYPE OF APPREHENSION TALKING TO THE MAYOR.
WEIGHING THE GOOD VERSUS BAD.
BUT WHEN WE PASSED SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECT, IT WAS NOT
WRITTEN IN STONE, DESIGN-BUILD.
STILL OPTIONS OUT THERE.
ARE WE STILL PURSUING OPTIONS AND LOOKING AT ALTERNATE
ROUTES?
WHEN WE PASSED THAT, IT WAS ASSURED THAT -- THAT -- THINGS
WERE STILL PINNING.
YOU ARE STILL LOOKING AT THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR THE
GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF
PROPERTY PROTECTION IN THIS PROJECT, CORRECT?
02:36:20PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YS YES, THREE ROUTE OPTIONS BEING EVALUATED.
SWANN TO CONNECT TO HOWARD.
MORRISON TO CONNECT TO HOWARD.
OR BRISTOL TO CONNECT TO HOWARD.
02:36:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE NOT LOCKED
IN ONE PARTICULAR PHASE.
I VOTED TO CONTINUE KNOWING THAT THERE WERE STILL OPTIONS
OUT THERE THAT THEY WERE PURSUING.
AND THAT IT WASN'T -- WASN'T JUST ONE TAKE THIS OR LEAVE IT
KIND OF SCENARIO THEY WERE USING THEIR SUBJECT MATTER
EXPERTS TO IDENTIFY THE BEST PROJECT THAT THEY CAN IDENTIFY.
02:36:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY REAL FAST.
ANYONE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE MAKE A MOTION -- IT HAS TO BE
SECONDED WITH SOMEBODY ON THE PREVAILING SIDE -- MARTY CAN
-- NO?
I WILL ASK THAT WE SCHEDULE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
NEIGHBORHOODS -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE -- NOT ABOUT
BUSINESSES VERSUS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
A SMALL GROUP IN PARKLAND ESTATES THAT WERE WHIPPED UP BY
THE ADMINISTRATION TO ARGUE AGAINST EVERYBODY ELSE.
THAT KIND OF ARGUMENT IS NOT HAPPENING IN ANY OTHER PART OF
THE CITY INCLUDING SOUTHWEST TAMPA.
NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH TAMPA ARE WORKING TOGETHER
COORDINATING.
PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY SMART.
WORK FOR ENVIRONMENTALIST.
ONE WOMAN WORKS REQUEST GOOGLE ANALYTICS.
AND FROM GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LONG DISCUSSION OF THE CONTENT.
REOPEN IT.
SCHEDULE IT SO THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO FULLY VET ALL THE
INFORMATION FROM THAT VOTE.
AND FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS TOLD -- AND I LOOKED AT THE
TRANSCRIPT THAT THEA IS CONTRIBUTING $11 MILLION.
WE KNOW FROM PUBLIC RECORD FROM THEA THEY HAVEN'T VOTED ON
IT.
AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL BE CONTRIBUTING 11 MILLION.
A LOT OF FACTORS TO GO THROUGH, LOOK AT THE SUBSTANCE OF IT
WITH A NEIGHBOR WHO IS HERE.
VIK AND HIS TEAM CAN COME.
MAYOR CAN SEND HER PEOPLE.
AND DETAILED INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN HINDSIGHT AND HAVE
A ROBUST DISCUSSION.
SEEING THE FACTS OF WHAT HAPPENED AND POLITICS WHAT
HAPPENED, I THINK YOU ALL WILL VOTE TO WITHDRAW IT AND GO
BACK AND SPEND IN MONEY MORE EFFECTIVELY.
02:38:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
MR. ROGERO, YOU WERE ASKED TO DISCUSS THE FINANCING AND
WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM AND EVERYTHING FOR THE $10
MILLION.
02:38:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
I WILL REPEAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR. BHIDE OR
DIRECTOR BHIDE SAID TO LEVEL SET.
WHAT YOU HEARD HIM SAY FROM WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE THE
NEED IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE THAT FUNDING RIGHT
NOW AND WE CAN PROCEED.
AND WE ARE PROCEEDING.
STILL 1.5 -- $1.5 MILLIONISH.
WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT IF A WAY CAN BE FOUND TO ACCELERATE --
AGAIN, YOU HEARD SOME OF THE LOGISTICAL AND PUTTING THE
ASSET IN PLACE.
AND WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE FOR IN FISCAL YEAR.
ACCELERATE THAT FOR FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD FOR FUNDING, WE
HAVE A NUMBER OF SOURCES TO DRAW FROM.
WE ARE GETTING READY TO COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL LATER ON
THIS MONTH, IF YOU WILL RECALL, OF THE LAST YEAR'S
CARRYOVER.
THE FUND BALANCE.
THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
WE RECEIVED YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND FROM WHAT I ANTICIPATE WILL BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION
LATER ON THIS MONTH IS WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES AND WHAT DOES
COUNCIL WANT TO DO WITH THE EXCESS FUNDING.
AGAIN, JUST A QUICK REFRESH.
WE ENDED LAST YEAR MORE POSITIVELY THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
I AM VERY PLEASED TO BRING YOU THAT INFORMATION, SO NOW WE
HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
AND WE CAN DISCUSS.
AND I ANSWER COUNCIL WILL WANT TO DISCUSS WHAT WE DO WITH
THAT.
ALSO, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE A HURRICANE FUNDING
BLOCK.
APPROXIMATELY $7 MILLION EVERY YEAR.
THAT IS NOT OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATION IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL
FUNDING BECAUSE HURRICANE SEASON IS COMING FOR THIS FISCAL
YEAR.
YOU HEARD -- YOU HEARD DIRECTOR BHIDE TALK OF THE HAZARD
MITIGATION GRANT.
POTENTIAL SOURCE OF FUND SOMETHING ALSO -- AND PERHAPS YOU
READ ABOUT IT, I THINK, THIS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SOURCES.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GIVING HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ABOUT
$700 MILLION UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAM.
AS PART OF THAT, I BELIEVE THE NEXT STEPS ARE THE COUNTY
DEVELOPING AN ACTION PLAN WITH PARTICIPATION FROM THE
MUNICIPALITIES.
A BIG UNKNOWN WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD GET, BUT A
POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCE.
IF WE -- IF -- AND I AM JUST MAKE THIS UP, BUT EITHER
CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION OR DIRECTOR BHIDE OR THE VENDORS
COULD, AGAIN, ACCELERATE THIS AND WE NEEDED $3 MILLION.
WE CAN MOVE ON THAT.
IF WE NEED $5 MILLION.
BECOME MOVE ON THIS.
WE CAN MOVE AS FAST AS THE ASSETS AND OPERATIONAL EXPENSES
ARE NEEDED.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
02:41:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:41:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE MONEY GRANTED FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
FY '25 MONEY ALLOCATE AND RECEIVED BY HILLSBOROUGH?
02:41:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THE $700 MILLION?
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DON'T HAVE THE CASH -- OR HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE THE CASH.
02:41:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WAS PASSED AND GRANTED.
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RESCINDED BY THE CURRENT
ADMINISTRATION?
02:41:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO SPEAK AS TO WHAT THE
CURRENT ADMINISTRATION --
02:41:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT A CHECK I COULD CASH.
02:41:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I WOULD NOT RELY ON IT UNTIL WE HAD CASH ON
HAND.
02:42:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SEE THAT MONEY OUT THERE NOT A CHECK THAT
WE CAN CASH UNTIL IT IS IN OUR HAND.
WITH A BUDGET -- I KNOW WE ARE JUMPING THE GUN.
BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THIS PROJECT -- THE
PALM PROJECT, LOOKING AT NINE -- A MILLION AND A HALF, A $9
MILLION UNMET NEED THAT WE HAVE TO FIND FROM A DIFFERENT
POT.
02:42:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, JUST TO CLARIFY, OVER THE NEXT TWO OR
THREE FISCAL YEARS.
02:42:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF WE HAD THE MONEY, WOULD IT STILL TAKE
THAT.
IF WE HAD $9 MILLION, TO ACCOMPLISH IT QUICKER.
02:42:39PM >>VIK BHIDE:
TIMELINE IS TWO YEARS.
IF WE CAN GET IT DONE IN A YEAR, WE WILL GET IT DONE IN A
YEAR.
02:42:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF I HAD A FAIRY GODMOTHER WHO GAVE ME
$10.5 MILLION, YOU CAN DO IT IN A YEAR?
02:42:51PM >>VIK BHIDE:
MY PROMISE IS TWO YEARS.
02:42:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU DON'T WANT TO OVERPROMISE AND UNDER
DELIVER.
IS THAT WHAT WE ARE SAYING?
LOOKING AT THE OVERAGE FROM LAST YEAR AND CONTINUE FORWARD.
WE NEED OUR HEADSET ON THAT.
WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE ITS GOING TO COME CLOSE TO $9 MILLION
FOR MONEY THAT WE ARE CARRYING OVER?
OKAY.
02:43:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I CAN JUST ADD -- AND YOU SURFACED A
GOOD POINT.
AGAIN JUST TO LEVEL SET.
IT APPEARS, AGAIN, BASED ON -- OBJECT ANY INFORMATION, IT
APPEARS THAT THIS DISCUSSION WILL CARRY INTO THE FISCAL YEAR
'26 BUDGET PREP OPERATION PROCESS ALSO.
WHEREVER, OF COURSE, COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT PRIORITIZATIONS
NOT ONLY ACROSS THE CITY.
SO WE HAVE GOT, AGAIN, A NUMBER DIFFERENT ANGELS WE CAN
ATTACK IT.
BUT YES MY UNDERSTANDING EVEN IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING RIGHT
NOW, VIK IS LIMITED HOW FAST HE CAN MOVE.
02:43:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY GUT WHEN WE START GETTING TO THIS '26
DISCUSSION.
A LOT MOVE NUTS AND BOLTS THAN BELLS AND WHISTLES IN THE
'26.
WE HAVE TO BE MORE PRACTICAL IN '26 THAN WE HAVE IN THE
PAST.
02:44:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:44:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:44:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 70.
GOING TO GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FIRST.
ALL RIGHT, SO ITEM 70 WAS A BRIEF WRITTEN RESPONSE TO THIS
EAST TAMPA -- TO THE FAIR OAKS PROJECT COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD.
02:44:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE SHE IS.
02:44:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO SAY BEFORE
WE BROKE.
02:44:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
WE ARE AT ITEM NUMBER 70 AND I WANTED TO START OFF YOU WITH
REGARDING THE FAIR OAKS PARK.
02:44:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OH, NO, DON'T START WITH ME.
WE CAN END WITH ME.
02:44:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
02:44:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO GO BACK -- I HATE TO SAY YBOR
CITY.
YBOR CITY.
BUT THAT'S ALL WE HAD.
CASCADE I CAN'T PARK.
FAIR OAKS.
BELMONT HEIGHTS AND JACKSON HEIGHTS.
WE HAD ROME AND SLIGH.
WE HAD THE ONE ON SLIGH AND FLORIDA AVENUE, AND IT WAS ABOUT
EIGHT PARKS AND YOU HAD PALMETTO BEACH AND ALL PLAYED.
DIFFERENT TIMES AND PLACES.
AND A DIFFERENT WAY.
YOU HAVE A PARK DIRECTOR.
ONE FOR THE BOYS AND ONE FOR THE GIRLS.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, NOT EASY WITH 150 KIDS ON BOTH
SIDES, GIRLS AND BOYS.
ONE PERSON AND FOUR OR FIVE TEAMS.
THAT INDIVIDUAL HAD TO WORK JUST ABOUT DAY OR NIGHT.
BUT THEY DIDN'T DO IT FOR THE MONEY, THEY DID IT BECAUSE
THEY WANTED THOSE KIDS TO DO BETTER.
THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT INCLUDING THIS PARK HERE.
AND I REMEMBER ALL THOSE PARKS.
AND, IN FACT, THERE WAS ONLY THREE HIGH SCHOOLS.
PLANT, HILLSBOROUGH AND JEFFERSON AT THAT TIME.
SO I KNOW I AM GOING BACK IN AGE.
I AM NOT THAT OLD.
I AM OLDER.
YOU CAN FEEL BETTER NOW.
02:46:13PM >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
02:46:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THESE ARE THINGS I REMEMBER GROWING UP.
AND NOBODY HAD ANYTHING, AND THEN PEOPLE WERE HAPPY.
PEOPLE HAVE A LOT MORE AND MOST ARE NOT HAPPY.
TIMES HAVE CHANGED, I GUESS.
SO IT IS WHAT IT IS.
BUT I HAD NO OBJECTION WITH NAMING SOMETHING.
HAVING IT LIKE IT WAS AT THIS TIME FAIR OAKS PARK AND MAKING
SOMETHING FROM THE BUILDING LIKE WE DID FOR YANKEE STADIUM.
YANKEE STADIUM, THE FIELD WAS NAMED JUST YANKEE STADIUM.
CHANGED THAT.
THE STADIUM ITSELF BUT THE PLAYING FIELD, GEORGE
STEINBRENNER FIELD.
THIS IS THE SAME THING AS THIS, REALLY.
SO I'M NOT AGAINST ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
02:46:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE?
MY OPINION IS, IT SHOULD STAY FAIR OAKS PARK.
AND, AGAIN, AS YOU WERE JUST MENTIONING, IF THE FIELD IS
NAMED SOMETHING OR THE BUILDING OR THE ROOM OR SOMETHING,
BUT THE PARK IS ALWAYS KNOWN AS FAIR OAKS, WE WILL HAVE FAIR
OAKS.
AND THAT IS REALLY -- THAT'S IT.
SO, YES, SIR.
02:47:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OBVIOUSLY, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WILL HAVE
THE FINAL WORD, BUT I ASK TO REMOVE ITEM 70 FROM FUTURE
AGENDAS AND READDRESS THIS IF WE WANT RENAMING AND START THE
PROCESS OVER AGAIN WITH A NEW PROCEDURE.
NEW COUNCIL.
NEW PEOPLE.
A NEW REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT 5.
I THINK ITEM 70 SHOULD BE MOVED AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO
RENAME A BUILDING, WE CAN START FROM THERE.
02:47:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:47:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS COME FROM
MY FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS.
IS MICHELLE VAN LOAN IN THE BUILDING TODAY?
02:48:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHE WAS HERE EARLIER BUT NOT IN THE ROOM
NOW.
02:48:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK THE
COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF, THIS PROBABLY WAS APPROVED
AS THE EAST TAMPA RECREATION COMPLEX.
WORD FAIR OAKS DID NOT EXIST IN THE ACTUAL PROJECT NAME AT
ALL.
NEEDS TO BE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN LUKE AT ALL OF THE
OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS, SEE IT AT THE EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL
COMPLEX.
COMMUNITY MAY REFERENCE IT AS FAIR OAKS.
SOME KIND OF NAMING WHEN THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED OR PRIOR
TO ITS APPROVAL AND THAT IS ON THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS.
MAYBE MISS FEELEY -- I SEE HER ONLINE.
DO YOU WANT TO CONFIRM THAT FOR ME?
02:48:46PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
WHILE THERE ARE DOCUMENTS THAT REFERENCE THE PROJECT, I
DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS -- THAT ANY OFFICIAL NAME HAS BEEN
GIVEN TO THAT.
PART OF WHAT THE MEMO WAS SPEAKING TO.
AND THAT IS THAT WHILE THIS FACILITY IS NOW UNDER
CONSTRUCTION, WE WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH
THE COMMUNITY AND TO WORK ON APPEAR MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND
HOLISTIC NAMING APPROACH BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THINGS TO
JUST START -- I WANT THE FIELD.
I WANT THIS.
I WANT THAT.
WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY IN A MORE
HOLISTIC WAY.
02:49:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO ADDRESS, THE
ARTIS GAMBRELL NAMING.
IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY THIS.
ARTIS GAMBRELL WAS EMPLOYED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
HE SERVED AS A PUBLIC SERVANT IN THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
HEAVILY ENGAGED IN SPORTS.
I DID MY OWN RESEARCH WITH THELMA HEIGHTS LITTLE LEAGUE AND
HE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS.
JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO OUR VARIOUS COMMUNITIES.
I DO RESPECT THAT.
IN THIS INSTANCE, BECAUSE THE NATURE OF THE
33,000-PLUS-SQUARE-FEET OF A COMPLEX, IT REALLY DOES PROVIDE
US WITH AROUND OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A THOUGHTFUL APPROACH
WHERE THE ONE PERSON CANNOT REALLY HOLD TRUE SIGNIFICANCE TO
ALL OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT SO MANY MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMUNITY HAVE MADE.
AND SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF BEING 33 ELEMENTS THAT
EXIST AT THIS PARK.
THEY ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE A
TRUE HISTORICAL RECORD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE
TAKING PLACE IN EAST TAMPA.
IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CREATE A FACILITY FULL
OF RICH HISTORY BECAUSE THERE ARE 32 ELEMENTS ON THIS SITE.
THERE IS THE -- THE GYMNASIUM, THERE IS THE SENIOR CITIZEN,
THE WEIGHT ROOM, THE FIELD, THE COURTS -- TWO COURTS.
INDOOR AND OUTDOORS.
INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR.
THE POND NAMED OF A HERB CARRINGTON.
THE CONCESSION PLAN.
THE SPLASH PAD.
PEDESTRIAN PLAZA.
PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOGNIZE GOOD PUBLIC SERVANTS
WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
AND IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY
ENGAGE IN COMING UP WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY
CONTRIBUTED TO EAST TAMPA BECAUSE OF THIS NEW BEAUTIFUL
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS 33,000 SQUARE FEET.
INCLUDING CLASSROOM SPACES AS WELL.
LIKE I SAID 33 DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT COULD EASILY PROVIDE
OPPORTUNITIES TO BE RECOGNIZED, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, 14
SHADED STRUCTURES, THE EVENT LAWN.
IT IS ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SPACES THAT COULD BE
REALLY THOUGHTFUL IN HIGHLIGHTING COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND
CELEBRATING LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
PARTICULARLY WHEN WE GET INTO THIS HABIT OF LOOKING AT
COMMUNITY SOLDIERS, WOMEN KIND OF GET LEFT IN THE
BACKGROUND, AND THAT IS NOT TRUE ABOUT EAST TAMPA.
SO THERE IS JUST OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
MORE THOUGHTFUL UNTIL THIS PROCESS.
I DO AGREE WITH MR. CLENDENIN, MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER THAT
WE REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.
IT IS JUST NOT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO NAME IT AFTER ONE
INDIVIDUAL.
02:52:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THAT IS A MOTION.
AND I SECOND.
02:52:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN
TO REMOVE ITEM 70.
02:52:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I SECOND THAT MOTION.
02:52:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WANT TO CLARIFY.
02:52:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 70, 22-78-36.
AND IF ANY COUNCIL PERSON IN THE FUTURE WANTS TO ADDRESS THE
NAMING OF THE PARK OR ANY COMPONENT OF THE PARK, THEY CAN
FOLLOW THE NEW COUNCIL PROCEDURES PUT IN PLACE FOR RENAMING.
02:53:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:53:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND THAT MOTION.
02:53:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE JUST HAD A CLARIFICATION.
02:53:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:53:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT ABOUT THE AMEND.
I HAVE ONE AFTER THAT.
02:53:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT -- WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:53:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
02:53:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
02:53:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
02:53:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
02:53:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
02:53:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
02:53:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:53:42PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:53:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THIS.
I WILL JUST READ WHAT I WROTE DOWN.
MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO INCLUDE QUESTIONS OF NAMING IN
THEIR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON FAIR OAKS PARK, INCLUDING --
INCLUDING THE NAME ARTIS GAMBRELL.
02:54:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE THE PROCESS.
02:54:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE LOOK THAT THE IN
PARTICULAR.
02:54:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL HAS A
PROCESS OF NAMING.
COUNCIL CAN TAKE IT IF THEY WANT TO PICK OWNERSHIP ON IT.
KIND OF WORK SLOPPY RIGHT NOW, I THINK.
02:54:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:54:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
A PROCESS WHERE YOU DO LETTERS OF SUPPORT --
02:54:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AM NOT PROPOSING NAMING ANYTHING.
I AM PROPOSING CITY STAFF TO INCLUDE QUESTIONS --
02:54:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN.
02:54:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY.
02:54:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MISS FEELEY -- I DON'T KNOW IF SHE IS STILL
ON THE LINE.
THE MEMO SPECIFICALLY ON THE FILE BACK TO THIS ITEM.
THE CONTINUANCE WAS REQUESTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PROVIDE THE
NAMING OF A COMPLEX OR FACILITIES THEREIN.
CITY'S COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PARTNERSHIP STAFF WITH WORK WITH
COUNCIL TO HELP FACILITATE MEETING TO SOLICIT COMMUNITY
INPUT ENABLING COUNCIL TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY BEFORE MAKING
A FINAL DETERMINATION.
THAT IS THE MEMO THAT IS FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN DATED
FEBRUARY 6, 2025.
SO THAT -- THAT -- THAT IS THE POISON THAT IS.
IF -- IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THAT MEMO,
JUST TO AFFIRM THAT MEMO.
02:55:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I SAY SOMETHING?
I DON'T KNOW THIS IS NECESSARY.
WE HAVE A CLEARLY DEFINED PROCESS FOR COUNCIL TO NAME.
AND THE ADMINISTRATION -- IT IS INITIATED BY THE
ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY FOLLOW.
WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE IN -- I SEE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
WANTS TO SPEAK UP.
BUT SOMEBODY FROM COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE OUR PROCEDURE AROUND
ADMINISTRATION.
KIND OF SELF-GUIDED.
02:55:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN I -- IT IS ABBYE FEELEY.
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
02:56:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
SO IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE HONORARY NAMINGS,
I JUST WANT TO MENTION -- WE HAVE NOT HAD A FACILITY LIKE
THIS, THAT IS BRAND-NEW WITH A NUMBER OF NAMING
OPPORTUNITIES THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON JUST TOUCHED ON.
WHILE I AGREE WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE NOW SET UP FOR
BOTH COUNCIL TO BRING FORTH AND, I THINK, WE ARE STILL GOING
TO RUN INTO THE SAME PROBLEM.
AND I THINK WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BRING TO YOU TODAY IS US
RECOGNIZING AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH
COUNCIL TO SAY THIS IS -- I DON'T WANT TO SAYS IT AN
ANOMALY, IT IS AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SAY, HERE IS
A WHOLE FACILITY.
AND IT DOES HAVE MANY DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.
I THINKING THERE MAY EVEN BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND WE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS PARKS AND
RECREATION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND MYSELF.
AND I AM KIND OF THE SPOKESPERSON TODAY BECAUSE THIS CAME
THROUGH THE HONORARY NAMING PIPELINE BUT PRESENTED USES WITH
A LARGER OPPORTUNITY THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS IN A MORE
COHESIVE WAY TO WORK WITH FACILITY FROM THE COMMUNITY AND
TAKE THAT INPUT AND PERHAPS IN LIEU OF COUNCIL BRINGING
FORTH ONE OR TWO OR THREE AND LET US HEAR THAT AND BRING IT
BACK.
02:57:32PM >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I WILL ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON SAID.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS.
SO MUCH BIGGER -- WE LOOK AT THIS THING THROUGH SUCH A SMALL
MOMENT IN TIME.
THAT -- AND WE ARE -- AS COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA HAS
SAID, HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE WITH FAIR OAKS AND OBVIOUSLY
RECOGNIZED BY THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS NOT AN EMERGENCY.
THIS ISN'T PUMPING STATIONS AND FLOODING AND DEVASTATION IN
OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
WE HAVE TIME TO DO THESE THINGS.
I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST USES OUR TIME.
I THINK WE NEED -- IF SOMEONE WANTS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN
THIS, IF IT IS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BECAUSE DISTRICT FIVE
OR ADMINISTRATION OR SOMEONE HE WAS ON THIS COUNCIL.
THEM DO THIS N IN A VERY DELIBERATE WAY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE TODAY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COME TO TOMORROW.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE IN FIVE YEARS.
AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID, WE NEED TO BE VERY
DELIBERATE ABOUT IT.
VERY SIGNIFICANT FIGURES THAT NONE OF US HAVE EVER MET AND
OVERLOOKED IN HISTORY THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK THROUGH.
THE OWNER OF A BOOK STORE, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSSED ON THAT
SECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY PROBABLY IS MORE VERSED THAN I AM.
THING THIS A SOLUTION LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM.
02:58:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:58:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY MOTION DIDN'T GET A SECOND, SO I WILL
WITHDRAW IT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY MISS FEELEY, I AGREE YOU WITH AND SOMEONE
WHO USED TO DO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR A LIVING, I TOTALLY
AGREE WHEN GAUGING THE PUBLIC, THOUGH WE DID HEAR FROM A LOT
OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TODAY.
MY ONLY REASON IN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT, THE FAMILY
AND FRIENDS OF THIS PERSON THREE YEARS AGO HAD AN
EXPECTATION WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD DECIDE OR BRING IT TO A CONCLUSION.
SOUNDS LIKE IT IS COMING TO A CONCLUSION.
BUT THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY IS THAT I HOPE THAT YOU AND
THE OTHERS ON STAFF WILL LOOK AT THIS AS A -- AS A TRUE
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
THAT PARK HAS BEEN HIGHLY POLITICIZED OVER THE LAST FEW
YEARS.
CITY COUNCIL HAD A POSITION ON THIS AND HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC
MEETING ON IT AND PUT THE FIRST AMOUNT OF FUNDING ON IT.
AND THE ADMINISTRATION TRYING TO ONE-UP CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE SHOULD REALLY LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE
COMMUNITY WANTS.
AND I WILL JUST SAY FROM EVERYBODY WHO IS A FRIEND AND
FAMILY OF ARTIS GAMBRELL.
SHOW UP AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
SHOW UP AND PUSH FOR SOMETHING TO BE NAMED AFTER HIM.
IF YOU ALL DO THAT AND GETS FED BACK TO US, I AM HAPPY
TO MAKE A MOTION AT THAT TIME.
03:00:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
THINKING ELSE?
03:00:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
VERY BRIEFLY.
I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID.
THIS GENTLEMAN -- AN EXPECTATION WAS MADE.
I AM NOT THE DISTRICT COUNCILMEMBER.
I DEFER TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WITH GREAT DEFERENCE ON
THIS ISSUE.
I HOPE THAT SOMETHING WILL BE NAMED AFTER IN YOUNG MAN WITH
SIGNIFICANT MEANING.
I THINK THAT WILL BE WONDERFUL.
I DEFER TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR MANY REASONS, THE
REASONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN GAVE.
I GIVE GREAT DEFERENCE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS FOR HER BEING
MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO REPRESENT THIS AREA AND OWNER OF BLACK
ENGLISH BOOK STORE.
03:00:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:01:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WAS SAYING MR. GAMBRELL.
A GREAT PUBLIC SERVANT AND SERVED OUR CITY WELL IN THE PARKS
AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
THE OPPORTUNITY IS STILL THERE.
FAMILY'S EXPECTATION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT OUR JOB AS SEVEN ELECTED MEMBERS OF THIS BODY TO BE VERY
THOUGHTFUL IN THE NEXT STEPS TO TAKE.
ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
THERE HAS JUST BEEN TOO MANY MISSTEPS, AND THIS IS THE
OPPORTUNITY.
I AGREE WITH MISS FEELEY THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE IS
VERY IMPORTANT, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THAT RIGHT NOW.
THAT MEMO IS VIABLE AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THAT THE
WHEN I AM FEELING A LOT BETTER, BUT I DON'T WANT THE MEMBERS
OF THE GAMBRELL FAMILY TO THINK THIS IS THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER
BEING AGAINST HIM AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
I RESPECT THE WORK HE HAS DONE AS A PUBLIC SERVANT WITH
RESPECT TO THE BOARDS HE WAS INVOLVED IN.
I REALLY DO.
BUT A BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY GET
AND GET THIS RIGHT.
AWARD WINNING 3,000 SQUARE-FOOT COMPLEX PROVIDES WITH US SO
MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE HISTORY, ESPECIALLY WHEN SO
MANY THINGS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
THIS SPACE ACTUALLY EXISTS AND IS OUR JOB TO BE GOOD KEEPERS
OF IT.
IT REALLY IS.
AND THIS PRESENTS US WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT.
I AM SURE THAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER'S HEART WAS IN
THE RIGHT PLACE.
AND HE HAD GOOD INTENTIONS.
BUT THIS IS A NEW COUNCIL.
AND THIS PROVIDES USES WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER
OTHER FACTORS AS WELL.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
03:02:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY.
THAT CONCLUDES THIS DISCUSSION FOR 70 AND GO ON TO ITEM 73
FOR FIVE-MINUTE REPORT ON MONITORING THE PARKING COMPLIANCE
IN YBOR CITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF MR. O'CONNOR IS ON LINE AND LAST ITEM WILL
BE REGARDING THE TENTATIVE 2025-2026 COUNCIL CALENDAR.
MR. O'CONNOR.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:03:18PM >> ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE SUBMITTED THE MEMO.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL HAS SOME QUESTIONS IN RELATION
WITH THAT MEMO.
03:03:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHO WANTS TO KICK IT OFF.
03:03:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ASKED FOR A FIVE-MINUTE REPORT.
AND I ASKED FOR SOME SLIDES.
YEAH.
I TALKED TO MISS FEELEY ABOUT IT ON TUESDAY.
SUPPOSED TO BE AN IN-PERSON FIVE-MINUTE REPORT.
03:03:51PM >> OKAY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SLIDES.
WE HAD MEMO THAT WE SUBMITTED.
QUICK OVER THE SECURITY PART OF THE MEMO.
03:03:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, I WOULD LIKE FOR TO YOU GO OVER ALL OF
IT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT TO TELL THE PUBLIC
ABOUT IT.
03:04:04PM >> NO, I UNDERSTAND.
BUT TWO OF US SITTING HERE.
I WILL GO OVER THE SECURITY PART AND DENNIS WILL GO OVER THE
OTHER PART.
03:04:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
03:04:12PM >> OKAY.
SO SINCE THE SECURITY REQUIREMENT CHANGED OCTOBER 15, WE
HAVE BEEN DOING INSPECTION OF THE LOTS.
AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE BROUGHT 46 CASES BEFORE THE SPECIAL
MAGISTRATE.
FIRST SET OF CASES WERE LAID A OUT.
ACTUALLY ALL THE CASES ARE DONE NOW.
ALL 46 CASES HAVE BEEN HEARD.
29 OF THOSE CASES HAVE BEEN FOUND IN VIOLATION.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WERE FOUND GUILTY BASICALLY OF NOT
MEETING THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.
THE FINES THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ASSESSED WERE BETWEEN
$75 AND $500 TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
14 OF THOSE CASES HAVE BEEN CONTINUED SO DURING THE HEARING,
THERE WAS SOME MORE EVIDENCE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WANTED
TO SUBMIT TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SO THEY WERE CONTINUED.
AND THREE OF THOSE CASES WERE REMANDED OR DISMISSED.
SO THAT'S -- AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, THE LAST TIME WE FOUND A
PARKING LOT IN VIOLATION OF THE SECURITY REQUIREMENT WAS IN
DECEMBER.
SO ALL -- ALL THE BIG PLAYERS IN YBOR CITY AS FAR AS PAID
PARKING LOT IN THE WEEKENDS HAVE HIRED SECURITY AND THE
INSPECTIONS THUS FAR THIS YEAR, WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY
VIOLATIONS.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE GAIN COMPLIANCE FOR THAT PART OF THE
CODE.
THAT MY REPORT ON THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS AND THE
ENFORCEMENT ONLY THAT.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO
DENNIS FOR HIS PART.
03:05:52PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, DENNIS
FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PRESERVATION MANAGER.
MY ROLE IS OVERSEEING THE PARKING LOT CONFIGURATIONS.
WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED ALONG WITH KEITH AND SEEKING COMPLIANCE
OF THE EXISTING PARKING LOTS IN THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC
DISTRICT.
CURRENTLY REVIEWED 12 APPLICATIONS THAT INCLUDED 14 PARKING
LOTS.
OF THOSE, ONLY TWO REMAIN IN PROCESS.
OTHERS HAVE EITHER RECEIVED THEIR APPROVAL OR WITHDRAWN
THEIR APPLICATION BASED ON NOT UTILIZING THE PARCELS FOR
PARKING ANY LONGER.
SO OF THE TWO, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE VARIOUS PROCESSES
THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE ZONING AND NATURAL RESOURCES TO
GAIN COMPLIANCE.
ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE ENGAGED IN THE -- IN THE ANNUAL
OPERATION AND SECURITY PLAN REQUIREMENT, WHICH WAS
INTRODUCED INTO THE CODE IN OCTOBER.
AND 27-178 WHEN THE CODE WAS UPDATED.
WE RECEIVED SEVEN REPORTS.
THERE IS -- THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE REMAINING 27 OPERATORS TO COME INTO
COMPLIANCE.
SOME OF THOSE MAY COME INTO COMPLIANCE NOW THAT ENFORCEMENT
AS WITH THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND IF THAT IS NOT ACHIEVED IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE WILL
BEGIN CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES ON THAT AS WELL.
03:07:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:07:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU SAID 27 OUTSTANDING SECURITY PLANS YOU
ARE WAITING FOR?
03:07:42PM >> 27 PARKING LOTS THAT -- THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS
NEEDING TO SUBMIT SECURITY PLANS.
03:07:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT NEED TO?
OKAY.
IF THEY DON'T SUBMIT SECURITY PLANS, THEN THEY BECOME OUT OF
COMPLIANCE?
WHAT IS THE DEADLINE FOR THAT?
03:08:00PM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ:
THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE DID IT, SO WE
ALLOWED ADDITIONAL TIME UNTIL FEBRUARY TO SUBMIT THE PLANS.
WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH A NUMBER OF THE OPERATORS; HOWEVER,
THEY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THE PLANS.
SOME OF THESE WILL HAVE TO GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF
APPROPRIATENESS BECAUSE ONE OF THE EXHIBITS THEY HAVE TO
SUBMIT WITH THE -- WHERE THEIR -- THEIR SUBMISSION AND
AFFIDAVIT.
SO AS THEY DO THAT, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO COME INTO
COMPLIANCE.
AND IF THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE SAME
PROCESS.
BECAUSE KEITH WAS OUTLINING WITH SEEKING COMPLIANCE THROUGH
THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
03:08:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
03:08:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO I AM A LITTLE UNEASY WITH LOOSEY
GOOSEYNESS WITH THAT WITH AN ORDINANCE PASSED BY COUNCIL.
WHAT IS THE DEADLINE?
DO WE HAVE A DEADLINE?
WHEN DO YOU SEE YOU GETTING THESE PARKING LOTS UNDER
COMPLIANCE?
03:08:58PM >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE BY MID-FEBRUARY.
OR THEY WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT TO US BY MID-FEBRUARY.
OR ELSE THEY WILL BE PUT IN VIOLATION CLENDENIN CLENDENIN
WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SUBMIT BY MID-FEBRUARY, THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
03:09:17PM >> THEN MY STAFF WOULD EVALUATE IF THEY MET THEIR
REQUIREMENTS UNDER 178, WITH THE AFFIDAVIT AND THE EXHIBITS.
ONE OF THOSE EXHIBITS IS THIS PERIOD -- THE SECURITY
AGREEMENT AND WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY INDICATE THAT AS BEING IN
COMPLIANCE.
03:09:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE FOR THAT.
03:09:43PM >> A FAIRLY QUICK PROCESS BECAUSE THE EXHIBITS ARE INCLUDED
IN THE SUBMISSION.
03:09:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SAY HYPOTHETICALLY 100% OF PARKING LOTS
SUBMIT THEIR PLAN BY FEBRUARY 15.
AND SEVEN OF THEM ARE FOUND NOT -- ARE FOUND OUT OF
COMPLIANCE.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF ENFORCEMENT AT THAT POINT WHEN
THEY CEASE DOING BUSINESS AS PARKING LOT?
03:10:05PM >> WELL, WE WOULD INITIATE VIOLATION UNDER 178.
AND WE WOULD SEEK COMPLIANCE THROUGH THAT ENFORCEMENT
PROCESS.
03:10:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE.
03:10:20PM >> THROUGH THE DISTRICT.
03:10:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS THE TIMELINE LOOK LIKE?
EDUCATE MERE BECAUSE I AM NOT IN YOUR BUSINESS?
03:10:27PM >> BASICALLY IF WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP A CASE AND FIND THEM
IN VIOLATION, WE WOULD SEND THEM A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
THEN THEY WILL GO BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
HELD DIFFERENT THAN THE IS HE REQUIREMENT.
WE DO THAT WITH IRREPUTABLE DAMAGES WITH A FINE ASSESSED TO
THAT.
THIS WILL BE A SEPARATE ONE AND TYPICALLY TWO TO THREE
MONTHS OUT TO GET THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND ON THE DOCKET
FOR THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
THE PENALTY WILL BE ASSESSED AT THAT HEARING.
03:10:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN -- YOU GAVE THEM
EXTRA TIME.
HOW MUCH TIME AND WHAT DID YOU GIVE THEM?
03:11:06PM >> WE GAVE THEM AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS.
03:11:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
03:11:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?
03:11:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
AND SOUNDS LIKE WE WILL HAVE AN INTER,ESTING REPORT ON APRIL
3.
HOPEFULLY, WE WILL HAVE GREAT UPDATES.
03:11:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 74 REGARDING THE TENTATIVE
CALENDAR.
MISS SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES IS HERE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ASKED THAT WE HAVE IN-PERSON.
03:11:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SPOKE TO MISS KOPESKY AND SHE DIDN'T KNOW
BECAUSE SHE WASN'T HERE RIGHTS AWAY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE
HAD SOMETHING SHE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OR NOT.
03:11:49PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
WE REVIEWED THE CALENDAR AND A POSSIBILITY OF TRYING TO WORK
SOMETHING IN.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAD ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER PRO PROVIDE ME
WITH A CORRECTION TO SOME DATES.
SO THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS NOT GOING TO WORK SO I DID NOT MOVE
FORWARD WITH THAT.
03:12:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO GIVEN HER THE OPPORTUNITY
MANHATTAN MANISCALCO MISS FOXX-KNOWLES.
03:12:18PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL,
SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, COUNTY CLERK.
HERE TO TRANSMIT THE 2025-2026 CITY COUNCIL CALENDAR FOR THE
PERIOD FROM FEBRUARY 6, 2025 THROUGH JULY 31, 2026 FOR
COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
AND IT WAS EXTRA TIME PUT ON THIS BECAUSE FOR PLANNING
PURPOSES.
I GUESS YOU GET MORE VACATION.
03:12:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL I DO IS GET TO WORK.
ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE?
03:12:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
03:12:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:13:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE TO ADOPT.
03:13:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO ADOPT THE CALENDAR FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OVER POSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:13:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I THOUGHT YOU HAD TO DO A ROLL CALL SINCE
I AM NOT HERE.
03:13:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT WASN'T A LEGISLATIVE --
03:13:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
TO ADOPT THE CALENDAR.
03:13:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL -- A ROLL CALL
VOTE.
03:13:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IF IT IS A RULE, IT IS A RULE.
I WANT TO US TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
03:13:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
03:13:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
03:13:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
03:13:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
03:13:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
03:13:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
03:13:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD HAVE PAID YOU A DOLLAR TO SAY NO.
03:13:48PM >>CLERK:
VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:13:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS?
03:13:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I DO, CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO -- ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL TO PROVIDE A COMMENDATION TO JAYLA HICKMAN, ALSO
KNOWN AS DOECHII.
A GRAMMY AWARD-WINNING RECIPIENT OF A GRAMMY THIS YEAR.
AND IT IS TO BE OFF-SITE AT BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL AT A DATE
SELECTED BY THE ARTIST WHEN SHE IS IN TOWN.
03:14:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TO GET A GRAMMY, ARTIST HERE WILL BE
AWESOME.
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM -- THIS IS TO GIVE THE -- PRESENT A COMBINATION
TO THE GRAMMY WINNER DOECHII.
03:14:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT IS REALLY COOL.
03:14:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FANTASTIC.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:14:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HER ACCEPTANCE SPEECH WAS JUST AMAZING.
03:14:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED?
YES, MA'AM, ANYTHING ELSE?
03:14:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO, CHAIR.
SULING RECEIVED MY MOTION FROM DARLENE.
03:14:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:14:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO JUST AMENDS THAT.
DURING HER ACCEPTANCE SPEECH, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
SHE COMPLIMENTED THE TALENT IN TAMPA, AND I KNOW BECAUSE SHE
HARD ME SINGING AT THE CITY COUNCIL IN DAIS.
ASKING FOR ME FOR THE RECORDING ARTISTS TO COME TO TAMPA TO
IDENTIFY ME AS AN UP AND COMING TALENT.
03:15:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I THINK SHE WAS TALKING OF YOUNGER
PEOPLE, MR. CLENDENIN, BUT OKAY.
03:15:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEY, HEY, YOU CONFUSE ME TO MY FELLOW
COUNCILMAN TO MY LEFT.
03:15:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I REMEMBER WHEN DID YOU THAT.
THE NEWSPAPER CALLED THE SONG OF THE MASS EXIT.
03:15:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
03:15:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
03:15:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAND THE GAVEL OVER TO THE VICE CHAIR.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
03:15:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN PRO TEM RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN
MANISCALCO.
03:14:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
APPOINTMENT PROCESS FOR THE EQUAL
OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL.
THERE WAS A MEMO THAT DID GO OUT TO COUNCIL.
AN INTERVIEW DATE NEEDS TO BE SET BECAUSE 29 APPLICATIONS
THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR SEVEN AVAILABLE POSITIONS.
I AM NOT SURE IF WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED
MEETING FOR THIS, TO ACCOMMODATE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
AND I WANTED COUNCIL TO DISCUSS WHAT THEY THOUGHT.
WE DO HAVE 29 APPLICATIONS FOR THE -- FOR THE EVO-AC BOARD
FOR SEVEN POSITIONS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT -- YES, MR. SHELBY.
03:16:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED,
THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR CERTAIN CATEGORIES OF
PEOPLE'S QUALIFICATIONS AND THE EXPERTISE THEY ARE SEEKING.
THERE IS A SPREADSHEET THAT SHOW THAT CERTAIN CANDIDATE WILL
QUALIFY BASED ON THEIR ACTION FOR CERTAIN SLOTS.
NOT JUST SEVEN OUT OF 29.
IT IS MORE -- A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.
03:16:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A LEGAL WAY FOR US TO HAVE THAT VETTED FOR
US PRIOR TO COMING TO US?
03:16:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE TO HAVE GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT,
BECAUSE THE SUNSHINE LAW DOES -- THIS IS AN APPLICATION OF
COUNCIL.
I THINK IF SOMEBODY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD BE THE
SUNSHINE THING.
AND THE OTHER THING IS I SHOULD POINT OUT, COUNCIL, PER YOUR
RULES, THE WAY IT IS PHRASED IS AT THE DATE SET FOR THE
VOTE, APPLICANTS MAY ADDRESS COUNCIL FOR THREE MINUTES EACH.
MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL MAY ADDRESS QUESTIONS TO THE
APPLICANTS PRESENT.
USUALLY YOU GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY.
THERE IS NOW A PLACE ON THE AGENDA IN YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS
FOR THAT.
SO I -- I DON'T KNOW I HAVE NOT AGAIN, GIVEN IT MUCH THOUGHT
FRANKLY IF THERE IS A WAY TO EXPEDITE IT.
EVEN THE CONCEPT OF YOU DOING IT ON YOUR OWN AT HOME AND
COMING IN AND THE CLERK JUST DOING A TALLY HAS BEEN FOUND BY
THE COURT AS A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW.
03:17:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOUNDS LIKE AN EXTRA MEETING FOR ME.
03:17:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED PEOPLE TO VET
THEM.
BECAUSE IF THERE ARE SEVEN CATEGORIES.
03:17:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL DIVIDED UP.
03:18:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GENERALLY WITH A BOARD LIKE THIS.
A COUPLE OF WHERE THE BULK WILL BE.
03:18:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STILL SOUND LIKE DISCUSSION.
03:18:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MEAN, WE CAN DO --
03:18:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OUR MEETINGS ARE SO PACKED.
03:18:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO COME
BACK NEXT THURSDAY EVENING WITH SOME IDEAS AND THOUGHTS?
I KNOW IT IS THE REZONING, BUT JUST AT THE END OF THE MEETING
CAN YOU JUST GIVE US AN UPDATE OF WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE?
03:18:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SURE.
I CERTAINLY WILL TAKE SUGGESTIONS FROM PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE
--
03:18:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR ME TO COME BACK
NEXT THURSDAY WITH JUST AN UPDATE HOW WE PROCEED WITH THESE
BOARD APPOINTMENTS?
03:18:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARY IN A NIGHT
MEETING.
DO IT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
03:18:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE THE DIRECTION THERE.
I HAVE MORE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE
IS RECEIVING APPLICATION FOR AN OPEN POSITION AS A CITY TAMPA
REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
ANYONE WISHES TO APPLY AT TAMPA.GOV OR CALL CLERK'S OFFICE
813-274-8397.
AGAIN, IF YOU WISH TO BE THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
YOU CAN CALL OR GO TO OUR WEB SITE FROM CITY OF TAMPA, CALL
813-274-8397 WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
THAT IS JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
GO AHEAD?
DISCUSS IT.
03:19:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND
SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T -- I DON'T BELIEVE WE IMPLEMENTED WITH
THE CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT WHEN COUNCIL'S RULES WERE REVISED,
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS THAT CURRENT AND UPCOMING
BOARD VACANCIES SHOULD BE NOTED ON EACH AGENDA TO CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DISTRICT OFFICES CAN SEEK CANDIDATES FOR
APPOINTMENT.
SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BESIDE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT, YOU
CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY.
FRANKLY, THERE ARE VACANCIES -- UPCOMING VACANCIES.
AND COUNCIL, YOU ARE BEST EQUIPPED TO FIND PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY WHO WILL BE WILLING TO SERVE.
03:20:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
QUESTION FOR THAT.
AS FAR AS INFORMATION TRANSFER.
WHO IS -- IS IT THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT KEEPS THAT
INFORMATION?
WOULD THEY BE THE ONE TO NOTIFY THE CHAIR ENSURING IT IS ON
THE CALENDAR?
03:20:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE HAVE THE DEPUTY CLERK IN FRONT OF US.
03:20:40PM >>CLERK:
I WILL SAY A WORK IN PROGRESS.
WE STARTED PUTTING OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN ON BASE AND
A WORK IN PROGRESS.
03:20:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WILL START SEEING THAT.
GOOD, GOOD.
03:20:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS MY MOTION.
AND THIS IS IT.
I RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM PRESIDENT WATER, HCC TO WRITE A
LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE 18th ANNUAL NATIONAL BLACK, BROWN
AND COLLEGE BOUND SUMMIT TAKING PLACE IN MARCH TO BE PLACED
ON THEIR PROGRAM BOOK.
A LETTER HANS BEEN PREPARED AND LOOK MAKE A MOTION TO SEND
IT ON BEHALF OF MY OFFICE ON CITY COUNCIL.
03:21:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO MOVED.
03:21:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM THE MOTION MAKER.
03:21:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT YOU HAD A MOTION.
A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHIME IN SO WE GOT YOUR VOTE.
03:21:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
03:21:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, ANY NEW
BUSINESS?
ANYTHING SIR?
03:21:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
I NEED TO WITH NEW ONE.
THE APPRENTICE ORDINANCE AND CHANGES WE HAVE TO MAKE FROM 27
TO APRIL 20.
03:21:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- NO, CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:22:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, I WOULD -- WOULD LIKE TO
THANK MALIK MOORE.
HE WAS MY PERSON FOR THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
HE WAS GIVEN A CAREER OPPORTUNITY THAT BROUGHT HIM OUT OF
THE TAMPA BAY AREA WHICH NO LONGER MAKES IT QUALIFIED TO SIT
AT THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO
RECOMMEND KIMBERLY WILLIAMS FOR DISTRICT ONE.
I WILL READ A BRIEF FOR THOSE OF HOW DON'T KNOW.
SHE IS -- I GOT THE WRONG ONE UP HERE.
SHE IS WITH FEEDING TAMPA BAY.
AND I HAD IT HERE.
WELL, SHE IS A VERY GOOD QUALIFIED CANDIDATE FROM FEEDING
TAMPA BAY.
AND HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE AND I THINK A GREAT CONTRIBUTION
TO THE COMMITTEE.
03:22:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:22:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
03:22:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED.
03:22:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AYE.
03:23:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:23:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, IN LIGHT OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION ABOUT
STORMWATER AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE ARE DOING, I MOVE
TO MAKE THE MARCH 27, 2025 QUARTERLY STORM REPORT -- WELL,
STORMWATER REPORT AN IN-PERSON REPORT INSTEAD OF A WRITTEN
REPORT.
SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN REALLY START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS
HAPPENED TO THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PUT INTO THE
SYSTEM.
IT IS A WRITTEN REPORT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE
KNOW ABOUT IT.
BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT IDEA TO HAVE US COME TO IN.
HOWEVER, I THINK IT MIGHT REQUIRE --
03:23:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SAYS SIX.
MARCH 27 HAS SIX.
03:23:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WILL BE THE SEVENTH.
03:23:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE NEED TO OVERRIDE THE RULE?
03:23:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, WE'RE ALLOWED SEVEN.
I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
I AM ALWAYS FIFTH OR SIXTH AND NEVER KNOW IF I WILL GET THE
DATE OR NOT.
THAT IS MY MOTION.
03:23:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED FROM CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE.
03:24:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, THANK YOU.
03:24:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE SEVERAL.
SORRY.
THERE IS A RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA WHO IS TURNING 100, SO I
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO AN OFF-SITE COMMENDATION
TO CELEBRATE HER 100TH BIRTHDAY.
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANYTHING ELSE.
03:24:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND ONE IS -- TELL ME IF YOU GUY DID
THIS, TOM PALERMO'S SON JUST GOT HIS EAGLE SCOUT.
WE USED TO DO IT HERE AND --
03:24:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALWAYS BROUGHT IT TO THE CEREMONY.
03:24:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, DID YOU SPEAK TO JUDGE PALERMO ABOUT
THAT?
I DID YESTERDAY.
HE HAD ASKED ME.
BUT IF YOU WANT -- IT IS ALL GOOD.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, HOW ABOUT HAVE IT, AND I WILL JUST
TELL HIM.
03:24:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WAS GOING TO MIND SIDE HIM.
HE DOESN'T LIKE RECEIVING ANYTHING.
03:24:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ESPECIALLY LIKES IT.
03:24:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU LIKE BLIND-SIDING PEOPLE.
03:25:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO I WILL -- MOTION TO GIVE AN OFF-SITE
COMMENDATION TO PETER PALERMO FOR BECOMING A EAGLE SCOUT.
03:25:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:25:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, IF YOU WANT WE CAN
SCHEDULE THROUGH OUR AIDES.
03:25:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COMMENDATION FOR PETER.
SMILEY FACE.
THANK YOU.
03:25:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND THEN WE CHANGED RULES FOR, PRESENTATION
-- STRENGTHEN THE RULES OF PRESENTATION FROM STAFF THAT
EVERYBODY HAS TO SUBMIT BY FRIDAY AT 5 O'CLOCK.
CAME UP WITH A NEW CATEGORY CALLED VIRTUAL REPORTS AND
POWERPOINTS AND PRESENTATION LIKE WE SAW TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE AND -- AND I WOULD LIKE
TO MAKE A MOTION TO MODIFY CITY COUNCIL RULES TO PROHIBIT
ANY PRESENTATION OR DOCUMENTS FROM BEING PRESENTED AT CITY
COUNCIL MEETINGS IF THEY WERE NOT FILED IN ON BASE IF NOT
FILED 5 P.M. THE FRIDAY BEFORE.
THE IDEA IS IF THEY HAVEN'T PUT THEM IN, THEN -- BY THE
OTHER RULES, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE IT.
AND INSTEAD OF BLIND SIDING US WITH DOCUMENTS WE NEED TO SEE
IN ADVANCE OR MORE IMPORTANTLY THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO SEE IN
ADVANCE.
THEY SHOULD CONTINUE IT AND GIVE US THE DOCUMENTS IN
ADVANCE.
IF THEY DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT TO
US.
03:26:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE A SECOND?
I SEE A MICROPHONE ON.
03:26:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST MADE A MOTION LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK
BEFORE ABOUT THE STORMWATER CLEANUP.
AND I SPECIFICALLY DIDN'T WANT IT IN ON BASE.
BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN ON BASE TWO WEEKS BEFORE.
SO I SPECIFICALLY WANTED THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION AND
IN MY MOTION, I ASKED THEM TO ADD IT TO ON BASE AFTER.
I THINK ONE WAY WE COULD DO THAT IS -- YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF
SAW TODAY HOW I HAD WRITTEN A MOTION THAT SAID A FIVE-MINUTE
PRESENTATION.
AND INSTEAD IT WAS A WRITTEN REPORT.
AND IT BE -- BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THE MOTION ANYWAY.
03:27:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD THINK -- THE THING ABOUT STORMWATER
YOU CAN SAY THIS IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, BUT IN
GENERAL, THEY ARE GOING AROUND OUR RULE SAYING WE ARE
PROVIDING VERBAL REPORTS AND THEY GIVE WRITTEN REPORTS.
ALL I AM SAYING IF YOU HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT, YOU HAVE TO --
IF YOU HAVE ANY WRITING -- ANYTHING IN WRITING GIVE IT TO US
BY 5:00.
MORE IMPORTANT HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT IT.
I HAVE A LOT OF REPORTS FROM THE COMMUNITIES WHY THEY ARE
NOT GIVING US DOCUMENTS IN ADVANCE.
03:27:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOUR HAND WAS
UP.
03:27:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WANT TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON A
QUESTION.
IS IT ABLE TO BE ON BASE AND MAY BE UPDATED IF NECESSARY.
I THINK IF -- IF THERE IS STILL MORE INFORMATION TO ADD.
I AM STILL WONDER GOING THERE IS AN EDIT ALLOWED.
IF THEY GET ANY ON TIME AND IF THERE IS AN UPDATE.
03:27:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS IT TWO WEEKS.
03:28:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FINE IF THEY DO IT IN GOOD FAITH BUT
ONE-PAGE HOLDER AND REPLACE IT WITH 30 PLACES.
IF THEY TWEAK SOME OF IT -- THE WHOLE THING HERE, IF YOU ARE
NOT READY IN TIME.
YOU NEED MORE TIME.
JUST CONTINUE IT.
WE AND THE PUBLIC NEED TIME TO REVIEW IT.
WHAT HAPPENS TO ME AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, I END UP
READING THE AGENDA ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND CHANGES TO SO MUCH
WITH THE DOCUMENTS THAT POP UP.
SOMETIMES THE DOCUMENTS DON'T COME IN UNTIL WE GET THE
PRESENTATION AND WE ARE BLIND-SIDED AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
WANT TO BE BLIND SIDED EVEN IF THEY WANT TO BLIND SIDE US.
A SECOND ON THIS OR NOT?
03:28:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE.
MAYBE.
BECAUSE I -- I SHARE THE SAME CONCERN.
THE SAME THING.
I TRY TO READ EVERYTHING.
AND IT IS DIFFICULT AND FRUSTRATING TO GET STUFF AT THE LAST
MINUTE WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE WELL PREPARED AND YOU ARE
NOT WELL PREPARED BECAUSE STUFF COMES AT THE LAST MINUTE.
I AM SURE WE WILL HAVE SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE SOME
OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL BRING UP.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ABSOLUTES.
SO I THINK -- I THINK THE RULE IS THE RULE, BUT I THINK
THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION WHETHER
TO ACCEPT IT IN REALTIME SO WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR,
LIKE, THE EXAMPLE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
LIKE ADDING.
SO MANY STAFF REPORTS.
AND WE EXEMPT OUR RULE.
IF SOMETHING THAT IS TIMELY AND CRITICAL.
03:29:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ADD IN SPECIFICALLY WEIGHED BY COUNCIL.
03:29:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
03:29:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY.
03:29:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE KEY IS --
03:29:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE A RULE?
03:29:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A RULE ABOUT WRITTEN REPORTS.
03:29:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WRITTEN REPORTS HAVE BE TO IN BY 5:00 AND
AUTOMATICALLY CONTINUE IT.
03:29:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TWO FRIDAYS.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
AND WE NEED TO.
GENERAL POLICY.
GENERAL POLICIES RULE 7-A, ALL STAFF REPORTS, RESOLUTIONS,
ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS INTENDED FOR THE CONSIDERATION
OF CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE FILED WITH THE OFFICE OF THE CITY
CLERK ON OR BEFORE 2 P.M. ON THE THURSDAY PRIOR TO THE
MEETING OF COUNCIL.
CITY CLERK, IN TURN, WILL PROVIDE COMMUNICATIONS AND
ORDINANCES AND OTHER MATTERS TO THE MOST APPROPRIATE
PLACEMENT WITHIN THE AGENDA TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE
REQUEST MADE OF THE TIME OF PLACEMENT ONLY THE AGENDA.
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS RELATED TO FEES ARE TO BE PLACED
UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
THE KEY IS -- AND COUNCIL, I -- IS GIVING THE ADMINISTRATION
SUFFICIENT LEAD TIME TO DO THIS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME THINGS ARE VERY LABOR INTENSIVE,
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT SIRE -- ON BASE NOW IS A PROCESS.
AS YOU KNOW, IT IS A MINIMAL OF TWO WEEKS AND I WILL TELL
YOU -- I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT THE
LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS A CITY COUNCIL MASTER MOTION LIST WHICH
IS QUITE AN UNDERTAKING TO MANUALLY UPDATE THAT.
QUITE FRANKLY IT IS -- IT IS JUST TO KEEP TRACK OF WHAT IS
BEING AGAIN RATED BY CITY COUNCIL MOTION IS IN ITSELF A
PROCESS.
TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND ALLOW LEAD TIME.
CERTAINLY COUNCIL, I ALWAYS SAY TO CITY COUNCIL, YOU CAN
ONLY MAKE AS GOOD A DECISION AS THE INFORMATION THAT IS
PROVIDED TO YOU.
03:31:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID
THAT WILL CONTRADICT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID WITH
GIVING COUNCIL THE ABILITY --
03:31:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I EXPECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT APPLIES
TO WORKSHOPS.
03:31:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GENERAL UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE DOCUMENTS
IN A TIMELY FASHION AND REVIEWED IN A TIMELY WAY SHELBY SHE
WILL AT WHAT POINT DO YOU MAKE THE EXCEPTION.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THE EXCEPTION UNTIL THE DAY OF.
03:31:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S SAY A HURRICANE THAT CAME THROUGH
AND DOCUMENTS AND PRESENTATION.
YOU EXEMPT THAT FROM THE RULE.
03:32:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT IF YOU ARE PRESENTED WITH SOMETHING
THAT THIS INFORMATION JUST UPON THEM AND YOU THEY JUST
BROUGHT IT IN.
CLENDENIN CLENDENIN TAKES FOUR VOTES?
03:32:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TAKES FOUR VOTES.
UNDERSTOOD.
THANK YOU.
03:32:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
YES, SIR.
03:32:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SHE SAID YES.
03:32:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALSO I -- I PUT THE -- THE APPLICATION
DOCUMENTATION IN FOR BRITTANY LISI AS THE -- AS MY APPOINTEE
FOR THE CITY COUNCIL CITIZEN ADVISORY BUDGET AND FINANCE
COMMITTEE.
AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO FORMALLY ADOPT A
RESOLUTION APPROVING HER.
03:32:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
03:32:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:32:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AYE.
03:33:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
03:33:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO I SENT IN ADVANCE.
CHANGED ONE OF THEM.
THE ONE ABOUT -- I AM CONCERNED OF THE DEBT OF THE CITY.
AND DENNIS IS GOING TO PRESENT AGAIN SOON ON THE BUDGET.
THE DEBT CAPACITY OF THE CITY.
BUT I TALKED TO SOME STILL AND COUNTIES OUTSIDE.
AND -- AND THEY ARE APPALLED AT THE -- AT THE AMOUNT OF DEBT
THAT WE HAVE.
EVEN THE ENTERPRISE DEBT.
AND SO MY FIRST MOTION WAS JUST TO ASK TO PUT A PROHIBITION
TONIGHT.
BUT I TALKED TO SOMEBODY FROM THE BUDGET AND FINANCE
COMMITTEE.
AND THEY SAID WHY DON'T YOU KICK IT TO US.
INSTEAD TRYING TO GET YOU ALL TO VOTE ON SOMETHING TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION TO ASK THE BUDGET AND FINANCIALS COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS
THE POSSIILITY OF CREATING A CAP OR MORATORIUM ON NEW CITY
DEPARTMENT AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.
03:33:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A DATE WHERE YOU WANT IT TO BE REPORTED
BACK?
03:33:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE NEED A DATE.
03:33:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOUR MOTION APRIL 3.
03:33:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT DATE?
NEXT MEETING?
03:34:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NEXT MEETING IS --
03:34:04PM >>CLERK:
FRIDAY.
03:34:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
APRIL 3.
03:34:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:34:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THE ONLY WAY I WOULD SUPPORT THIS MOTION
IS IF -- AS IF STORMWATER WASN'T INCLUDED BECAUSE WE HAVE A
LOT MONEY.
A LOT WE HAVE TO BE DOING WITH STORMWATER.
AND IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
AND I JUST -- THAT IS MY ONLY HANG-UP.
I COMPLETELY AGREE THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF WE DON'T NEED TO
BE SPENDING MONEY ON.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO DO MAJOR WORK IN STORMWATER AND
I DON'T WANT TO HINDER US IN THAT.
03:34:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP?
03:34:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YEAH, I THINK MY -- MY BIGGEST CONCERN
WITH THIS, IS THAT THE CITY'S DEBT ISSUANCE AND OUR RATING
AS A FISCAL RESPONSIBLE CITY IS IN CONFLICT WITH ONE
ANOTHER.
WHEN COUNCILMAN CARSON SAID HE TALKED TO OTHERS AND THEY ARE
APPALLED.
I WANT TO KNOW WHO HE IS TALKING ABOUT.
I DON'T WANT THAT COMMENT TO JUST FLY OVER US.
AND BE OKAY.
BECAUSE IT IS JUST NOT OKAY IN LIGHT OF OUR RATINGS AS WE
STAND AS A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE CITY.
EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE IS A COUNCIL MEMBER
OR SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS DON'T LIKE THE SET THAT IS BEING
ISSUED FOR THE PROBABLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE ONE THEY
SUPPORT OR CAN GET BEHIND BALLS THEY SEE IT AS A WASTE OF
MONEY OR WANT TO CALL IT VANITY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I JUST DON'T LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE WE HAVE PROVEN TO BE A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE CITY
WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BUDGET.
AND IT HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED SEVERAL TIMES SINCE I HAVE BEEN
ON COUNCIL FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS.
AWARD-WINNING, IN FACT, AND ACKNOWLEDGED.
DON'T JUST THROW IT OUT THERE THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE APPALLED
AS IF WE ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
I DON'T LIKE THAT AND I WON'T SUPPORT IT IF IT IS COMING
FROM THAT APPROACH.
03:36:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:36:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK I SHARE THE SAME CONCERN THAT
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON HAS HIGHLIGHTED.
I AM RELATIVELY FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE WITH THE BOND RACE
RIGHT NOW, I THINK SOMETIMES WE ARE A LITTLE TOO WILLY
NILLY.
MY LITMUS TEST IS RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND I ON SOME PROJECTS AND WE FELT
THAT THE PROJECT WOULD CAUSE A POSITIVE CASH FLOW TO THE
CITY.
AND IN THE ULTIMATE TERM, AGAIN, IT IS AN INVESTMENT.
SOME THINGS ARE NOT AN INVESTMENT AND A HOLE WE SHOULD DO
PAY AS WE GO IN A SHORTER TERM FASHION THAN MAYBE WE PLAN
FOR LONG-TERM.
THAT BEING SAID, I JUST LIKE I SAID IN THE PREVIOUS, I AM
NOT GREAT ON ABSOLUTES.
BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO -- WHEN WE ISSUE THESE
-- THESE DEBTS AS COUNCILMAN HURTAK SAID ABOUT STORMWATER
AND OTHER CRITICAL THINGS AND THE UNKNOWNS WHAT WILL COME UP
IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS OF OUR TERM.
I DON'T -- WE ALREADY HAVE THAT CONTROL.
WE JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRUST OURSELVES TO SAY NO WHEN WE
SAY NO.
IT TAKES FOUR VOTES TO SAY NO.
I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OF WHAT -- WHEN WE
AS A CITY AND AS A -- AS CUSTODIANS OF TAXPAYER MONEY, WHEN
WE ARE SPENDING MONEY, IS IT AN INVESTMENT?
IS THE MONEY GOING TO FLOW BACK INTO THE COFFERS.
WORTHY OF AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID OUR WASTEWATER AND
STORMWATER AND THE ENTERPRISE AND KNOW YOU HIGHLIGHTED
ENTERPRISE FUND AND THOSE ARE INVESTMENTS TOO IN THE FUTURE
AND HARDENING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT IS KIND OF WHAT THE CITY WANTS US TO DO.
I THINK -- AT LEAST MY ASSESSMENT OF THE CITIZENS OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE CLEAN WATER AND WE ALL --
AT LEAST FOUR OF US UP HERE SHARE THAT WE WANT CLEAN WATER.
WE WANT THE POOP WATER TO LEAVE OUR HOUSES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ROADS AROUND POTHOLES ARE
FILLED.
THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
DON'T WANT TO UNNECESSARILY BURDEN THE CITY WITH DEBT, BUT I
WANT TO SMARTLY USE DEBT WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE.
03:38:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMEMBERS -- DO YOU WANT TO GO.
OR VIERA.
VIERA --
03:38:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IT WASN'T SECONDED ANYWAY, WAS IT.
03:38:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL RESPECTFULLY VOTE NO BUT I WILL SECOND
IT TO SPEAK OF IT.
FROM EVERYTHING I HEAR.
I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO MR. ROGERO ON THIS.
WE GOTTEN REPORTS BEFORE.
DOING OKAY IN THAT REGARD.
WE ARE TAKING DIET PILLS AND WEARING A MEDIUM, YOU KNOW WHAT
I MEAN.
I DON'T SEE IT.
HEARD SOMEBODY MENTION FIRE STATIONS, PUBLIC SAFETY.
I AM NOT SURE IF THERE IS A PUBLIC SAFETY CARVE OUT THAT --
THAT -- AT THE VERY LEAST.
I STILL WILL OPPOSE IT.
BUT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
STORMWATER AND A LOT OF NEEDS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SUCH A MASSIVE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW SUCH
THAT WE NEED SUCH A TIGHT RESTRICTIVE STRAIGHT JACKET
FISCALLY.
I UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE, BUT THERE IS A TIME AND A PLACE
FOR THIS.
AND MAKE WE HAD INSTANCES IN RETROSPECT.
HEY, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE FOR THAT AND SO FORTH.
BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY SORT OF PRICE IS RIGHT NOW
THAT WILL NECESSITATE A RESTRICTIVE STRAIGHTJACKET.
03:39:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I?
SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL FAIL ANYWAY, BUT, NUMBER ONE, I AM NOT
-- THE MOTION THAT I AM MAKING NOW IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE
I SENT AROUND.
I AM NOT ASKING TO PUT IN THIS PLACE.
I AM ASKING TO HAVE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT IT AND --
03:39:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAKE THAT MOTION -- A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
TO HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE JUST LOOK AT
DEBT IN GENERAL AND NOT WITH A PREDETERMINED OUGHT COME.
03:40:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE IS THE THING.
WE WILL HAVE A DEBT REPORT COMING UP SOON.
03:40:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO GO FURTHER.
THE ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO GET A TAX INCREASE AND IT
FAILED.
A LOT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE CONCERNED THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION WILL TRY TO GET ANOTHER TAX INCREASE.
AT SOME POINT BY ADDING DEBT AND THE DEBT SERVICE WITH
INTEREST RATES GOING UP, WE WILL FORCE OURSELVES TO KEEP THOSE
BOND RATINGS THE WAY THEY ARE.
FORCE OURSELVES TO GET NEW REVENUE OR RAISING FEES.
BECOME ALL LOOK AT THAT, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS ON A
CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
THEY SAY OH, WELL TO UPGRADE YOUR PARK.
YOUR PARK YOU NEED THIS.
UPGRADE THE FIRE TRUCKS.
WE NEED IT.
AND TO UPGRADE THIS AND THAT.
AND WE GET PICKED OFF ONE BY ONE.
WE NEED TO PASS A BLANKET STATEMENT TO SAY THAT DEBT IS NOT
-- IS NOT A BANK ACCOUNT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.
THEY CAN'T JUST ADDING DEBT FOR THINGS THAT ARE NICE TO
HAVE.
THEY HAVE TO STOP THAT.
AND -- AND I -- AT SOME POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
STATEMENT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET THING WE WILL NOT AGREE TO NEW
TAXES.
AS TO THE POINT ABOUT -- WELL, GIVE US EXAMPLES.
TELL US WHATEVER CITIES AND COUNTIES KNOW.
I MET WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE FIRST THING REACT TO
EVERYBODY.
GIVE US EXAMPLES.
I HAVE GIVEN THEM EXAMPLES ON ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
LAST WEEK WE HAD TWO FORMER EMPLOYEES GET UP AND TEARFULLY
TELL US THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON
FROM THE ADMINISTRATION REACHED OUT TO ME AFTERWARDS.
MANY FORMER AND CURRENT EMPLOYEES DID.
AND STILL THE MAYOR SENT E-MAILS TO THE PUBLIC SAYING IT IS
CITY COUNCIL'S FAULT.
IT IS RIDICULOUS THAT THIS STUFF HAPPENS.
SO WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO IS TRY TO PUT SOME REINS ON -- WE
HAVE A MAYOR THAT IS LEAVING IN TWO YEARS.
WE HAVE TO NOT -- JUST BECAUSE WE ARE AT 4% DOWN UNDER
DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED TO LEAVE WITH 100.
BECAUSE IT WILL TAX EVERYBODY IN THE FUTURE.
NOT A FAIR THING TO DO.
THE DEBT COVERAGE.
AND WITH THE INTEREST HIGH, THE AMOUNT OF INTEREST WE ARE
PAY SOMETHING UNBELIEVABLE AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COVER IT.
BUT THINK OF ALL THE THINGS WE ARE NOT ABLE TO PLAY.
$65 MILLION IN FROM FOR A $65 MILLION PROJECT.
$65 MILLION YOU ARE NOT SPENDING ON STORMWATER.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY REAL FAST IS COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION THIS OFF-LINE, BUT THE
IDEA OF AWARD-WINNING.
MY PHILOSOPHY, MY COMPANY IN THE LAST 30 YEARS, WE HAVE NOT
APPLIED TO A SINGLE AWARD.
I DON'T VALUES AWARDS AT ALL.
BOND RATINGS.
YES, THAT IS NOT AN AWARD, PROFESSIONALS LOOKING AT OUR
FINANCIALS.
TO SAY WE WON AN AWARD.
THINGS YOU SEND IN AN APPLICATION AND EVERYBODY WINS
EVENTUALLY.
THOSE THINGS INTEREST LIKE -- THE AWARD FOR PARTICIPATION
FOR WHATEVER.
YOU MAY DO SOMETHING GREAT, BUT THE REAL AWARD IS THAT THE
CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY LIKE IT.
IF THEY THINK IT IS AS GOOD DECISION AND ENJOY PARTICIPATING
IN IT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN -- HAVE GOTTEN AWARDS
THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T LIKE.
THEY DON'T APPRECIATE THE DESIGNS.
JUST BECAUSE YOU GET AN AWARD FROM SOMEBODY OUTSIDE DOESN'T
MEAN THAT THE PUBLIC THINKS IT IS A GOOD INVESTMENT.
03:43:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
03:43:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LIKE THE MICHELIN STAR.
YOU GOT TO PAY TO GET IT.
03:43:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OOH.
03:43:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ST. PETE SAID THEY WILL PAY IN SO THEY
CAN GET IT.
03:43:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MICHELIN, NOT THE OFFICIAL OPINION OF THE
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
03:43:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS FOR ME ANYWAY.
[LAUGHTER]
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD BEGINNING BECAUSE A CONVERSATION OF
DEBT AND OUR DEBT RATIO ON FEBRUARY 27.
THAT IS COMING FORWARD.
I THINK IT IS A VERY GOOD BEGINNING TO THAT.
BUT WE ARE -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN AND I WILL SAY IT NOW BECAUSE I WAS
ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT IT YESTERDAY.
WE ARE GOING TO SEE A DECREASE IN FUNDS THAT COME INTO
THIS CITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF HOUSES
THAT ARE UNLIVABLE, THEREFORE UNTAXABLE.
SO IT WILL A -- IT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
YOU ARE CORRECT.
BUT HERE IS OUR PROBLEM.
WE, AS A COUNCIL, ARE VERY GOOD AT SAYING NO.
AND WE HAVE TO GET BETTER.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COME.
BUT EVERYBODY SAYS THEY PUT THE TIME, EFFORT AND THE MONEY.
WE CAN'T NOT TO DO IT.
I AM AFRAID IN WE WILL GET TO A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE AND
NOT HAVE AN OPTION.
I THINK IT IS A WORTHY DISCUSSION TO HAVE ON FEBRUARY 27,
BUT I AM HAPPY TO BE BRING SOME PRELIMINARY THOUGHTS IF YOU
HAVE THEM ON PERCENTAGES THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE DECREASES
IN WHEN IT COMES TO OUR REVENUE.
I HEARD BETWEEN 10% TO 20%.
MY INTEREST GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE TO LOOK AT WHAT
IT WILL BE FOR 25% LESS WHICH IS MORE IN LINE WHAT I AM
EXPECTING.
ADDITIONALLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AS MR. ROGERO SAID EARLIER TODAY.
IF ANYTHING, WE ARE NEED TO BE MUCH MORE CAUTIOUS AND
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE -- SO MANY MORE ISSUE
THAN WE HAD THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
HELENA, MILTON JUST BROUGHT US A TON OF PROBLEMS THAT WE
HAVE NO OPTION TO FIX.
WE HAVE OPTIONS ON OTHER THINGS.
03:45:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOUNDS LIKE A FRIENDLY MOTION.
03:45:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:45:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AM GOING TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND TALK
ABOUT IT FEBRUARY 27.
03:45:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:45:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WILL CLOSE BY SAYING THIS.
I DID SAY "AWARD."
BUT I MEANT OUR FINANCIAL RATINGS.
STANDINGS OF OUR FINANCIAL RATINGS.
NOT NECESSARILY REWARDS.
A HEALTHY BENEFITS AND LOOKING AT THE MAYOR'S STRATEGIC
INITIATIVES AND HAVE AT THAT HEALTHY BALANCE OF DEBT.
YES, WE DO HAVE PROBLEM AND CHALLENGES WE HAVE TO ADDRESS,
BUT WE STILL HAVE TO GROW AS A CITY AND IMPROVE ONE OF THE
THINGS I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH IS THIS.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS HISTORICALLY THAT HAVE BEEN IGNORED
IN ANY NORTH COMMUNITIES.
NOW THAT WE ARE GETTING THAT YOU ARE JUST TO DO LIKE THE
RIVERWALK, LIKE BEAUTIFUL FAIR OAKS PARK, WHATEVER, IF YOU
HAVE TO REALLY DO A DEEP, DEEP, DEEP DIVE INTO -- YOU KNOW,
WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS ARE CONSIDERED WORTHY AND VALUABLE,
YOU -- YOU ALSO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OUR HISTORY INTO
-- INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND SO THERE IS A PRICE TO PAY IN -- IN MANY REGARDS IN SOME
ASPECTS.
AND I SAID THIS PUBLICLY TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE.
IF I CAN PICK UP THE 4.5-MILE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND MOVE IT
TO ROME YARD, I WOULD.
BECAUSE YOU HIS FOR CLEAR HAVE TAKEN GOOD CARE OF BAYSHORE
BOULEVARD.
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER
MONIES WHERE PLENTY OF CITIZENS DID NOT BENEFIT FROM THAT.
I AM NOT SAYING THAT DEBT ISSUE ANNALS HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW,
A ONE-WAY PATH IN TERMS OF SOLVING PROBLEMS.
IT HAS TO BE A HEALTHY BALANCE BECAUSE ONE DAY NOT JUST THIS
MAYOR.
BUT IT IS IT IS THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO LEAD OUR CITY
THAT DOESN'T JUST LEAD, BUT WILL CAMPAIGN ON JUST THE
PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.
BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT WE ARE AN AMAZING CITY THAT MUCH
ATTRACTS A HUGE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME
HERE TO, YOU KNOW, SPEND TIME IN OUR TOWN.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO.
AND THE DEBT ISSUANCE IS A GREAT HEALTHY CONVERSATION.
I DON'T WANT TO DISMISS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT
THE FROM A VARIETY OF PERSPECTIVES.
BUT HE IS WITHDRAWING HIS MOTION.
SO I GUESS WE CAN MOVE ON AND WAIT TO FEBRUARY 27 AS LYNN
HURTAK SAID.
03:47:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE ONE MORE.
IF ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING DRIVES DOWN ANY OF THE STREETS
THAT COME OFF OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, ALMOST ANY OF THEM,
INCLUDING AROUND ALLEN ARE COMPLETELY FALLING APART.
PEOPLE MOVING HERE, SAY $50,000 WHATEVER THE YEAR FOR
TAXES, HOW COME MY ROADS ARE COMPLETELY FALLING AIL PART AND
THE PARKS ARE FALLING IN APART.
THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAD A CITY-WIDE VIEW.
WE CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT FOREVER AND USE IT TO SPEND ON PET
PROJECTS.
03:48:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A POTHOLE AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME IN
MAGNOLIA AND REPORTED FOR MONTHS.
03:48:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
GET CALLS AND E-MAILS EVERY DAY ABOUT POTHOLES.
EVERYTHING THAT IS DEEPER, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT
BECAUSE WE SPEND IT ON OTHER THINGS.
THE LAST THING IS, YOU ALL SAW THE WHOLE DISCUSSION OF THE
RED LIGHT ON FRANKLIN STREET FOR -- FOR HARBOUR ISLAND.
HARBOUR ISLAND HAVE HIRED THEIR OWN CONSULTANTS.
THEIR CONSULTANTS DISAGREE WITH US.
TWO-THIRDS OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT QUIT.
AND ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIALS OF PEOPLE ABLE TO ANALYZE THESE
THINGS.
LIGHTNING IS NOT ASKING FOR IT.
SBP IS NOT ASKING FOR IT.
WE KNOW THE WAY THE ROADS ARE HANDLED RIGHT NOW ARE CAUSING
ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC TO POP UP.
THIS LIGHT WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT HARBOUR ISLAND BUT AFFECT
HALF OF SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE IT BACKS UP ROADS.
AS WAS STATED THIS MORNING IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THE
NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS E-MAILED THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WROTE
BACK TO SAY THAT THE STAFF HAS THE RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER THEY
WANT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO SPEND
$500,000 ON A LIGHT THAT NO ONE WANTS AND NOT HAVE THEIR
POTHOLES FILLED WHICH IS INSANE.
I CAME UP WITH THIS MOTION AND IT SAYS WE PASS AN ORDINANCE
THAT PROHIBITS THE STAFF FROM PUTTING UP RED LIGHTS.
OF COURSE YOU DON'T WANT A BLANKET UMBRELLA THING LIKE THAT.
WHAT ELSE DO COULD WE TO DO STOP THEM.
IF THEY ARE BOUND AND DETERMINED TO DO STUFF.
WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO FILL POTHOLES BUT SPEND IT ON A RED
LIGHT NO ONE WANTS AND NOT GOING TO WORK.
EXPERTS THAT HAVE SHOWN THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.
WHY WOULD WE DO THAT?
WHAT CAN WE TO DO STOP THEM?
03:50:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT A MOTION OR JUST DISCUSSION.
03:50:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT YET.
03:50:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE THE POWER OF THE PURSE.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO FUND IT.
03:50:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BUT THEY HAVE THESE AS-NEEDED CONTRACTS.
THEY CAN JUST ADD TO IT.
03:50:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS A COMPLEXITY --
03:50:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:50:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A POTHOLE AND CAVE-IN.
POTHOLE ONE OR TWO LAYERS OF ASPHALT TO PUT IT DOWN, PATCH
IT DOWN AND IT IS DONE.
24 HOURS.
OTHER ONE MAY TAKE TWO WEEKS, BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE,
THEY HAVE TO DIG ALL THE WAY AROUND THE ITEM.
TAKE EVERYTHING OUT FROM THE BOTTOM.
REINFORCE THE I'M AND PUT EVERYTHING BACK.
IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE WATER DOESN'T COME IN AND ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
TAKES TWO OR THREE WEEKS.
POTHOLE, NO PROBLEM.
ANY I CALLED IN DONE 48 HOURS.
03:51:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS HAS BEEN MONTHS.
NEXT TO ME ON MAGNOLIA.
VIK, IF YOU WERE LISTENING, ON MAGNOLIA.
IT HAS BEEN MONTHS.
VERY LARGE AND PROBLEMATIC.
YOU KNOW, I AGREE -- I AGREE -- I AGREE WITH SENTIMENT ON
THIS.
I AGREE.
BEING A STICKLER FOR CHARTER AND COUNCIL RESPONSIBILITIES.
HATE PLAYING IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S SANDBOX.
AND THIS -- YOU ARE RIGHT.
I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT WHEN YOU JUST SAID, WE WILL ALLOCATE
THOSE FUNDS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
AND MAYBE WE CAN ADDRESS THAT BY -- BY LINE ITEM DEFINITIONS
OF FUNDS AND HOW THEY ARE EX-PENDED AND EVEN WE DID THAT
WITH THE PAVING.
WE SHIFTED MONEY AND DIRECTED MONEY FOR PAVING.
LAST FISCAL YEAR.
03:52:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE WILL PASSED A PRIOR MOTION TO TAKE OUT OF
THE KIMMINS CONTRACT.
03:52:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY --
03:52:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE STAFF TRIED TO SNEAK IT IN ANYWAY BUT
LUCKILY IT WAS TAKEN OUT AND WE CAUGHT IT.
03:52:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BY A CHARTER, WE HAVE A CHARTER ISSUE
CHANGE THE CHARTER TO REDEFINE -- WORKING WITHIN THE
CONFINES OF THE CHARTER KNOWING WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS, I'M
UNCOMFORTABLE.
I AGREE WITH THE IMPACT ONLY TRAFFIC.
03:52:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS?
03:52:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY WHEN
YOU TALKED OF YOUR INTENT TO PRESENT THIS TODAY.
03:52:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY.
MISS ZELMAN.
03:52:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MISS ZELMAN AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
BEFORE LUNCH, AND I HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL WOULD BE IF IT IS POSSIBLE,
RATHER THAN HAVING A FULL PRESENTATION ON THIS AND HAVING A
FULL LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE FOLLOWING
BECAUSE WHATEVER ACTIONS MIGHT BE TAKEN IN THE NEXT TWO
WEEKS TO ACTUAL LEGAL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MISS
ZELMAN.
I HAD QUESTIONS OF HER TO BEGIN WITH.
SHE HAS THINGS SHE CAN PRESENT TO COUNCIL, BUT IT COULD BE A
LENGTHY DISCUSSION AND MIGHT BE MORE PRODUCTIVE TO HAVE THAT
TWO-WEEK OPPORTUNITY UNLESS MISS ZELMAN, YOU WISH TO --
03:53:34PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
I WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS, IF I
MAY.
ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
I THINK WHAT I EXPLAINED TO WITH RESPONSE TO THE SOUTH
HARBOR ISLAND ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN MISCHARACTERIZED.
NOT THAT THE DEPARTMENT GETS TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND
SINGLE-HANDEDLY GETS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS.
LANGUAGE IN OUR CODE THAT AUTHORIZES THE TRANSPORTATION
OFFICIAL WHICH IN OUR CASE IS THE MOBILITY DIRECTOR TO MAKE
THE TIME DETERMINATIONS ON TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS.
TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES ARE GOVERNED BY A NUMBER OF THINGS.
THE INSTALLATION OF THEM.
THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION'S MANUAL FOR -- I FORGOT
WHAT THE "U" STAND FOR BUT SOMETHING ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL
DEVICES.
CHAPTER 3.16 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES AND OUR CODE AND OUR
TECHNICAL MANUAL.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE -- FDOT HAS REGULATIONS.
BOTTOM LINE BEFORE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL CAN BE INSTALLED, THERE
HAS TO BE A WARRANT STUDY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT
MEETS WARRANTS.
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL A SIGNAL IF IT DOESN'T MEET WARRANTS.
IF IT DOES MEET WARRANTS, YOU DON'T AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO
INSTALL A SIGNAL, YOU LOOK AT OTHER FACTORS TO DETERMINE
WHETHER THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL IT THE APPROPRIATE DEVICE.
THAT DETERMINATION IS MADE BY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS.
IN THIS CASE, IT WAS STANTEK.
THE ENGINEERS ARE HELD TO CERTAIN PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD AN ELECTED BODY EVER HAVE A
SAY -- HAVE THE ABILITY TO OVERRULE THAT DETERMINATION.
COUNCIL WOULD BE PUTTING THIS CITY -- EXPOSING IT TO GREAT
LIABILITY IF ATTRACT ENGINEER REACH A CONCLUSION THAT
A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT MET WARRANTS WAS NECESSARY TO PROTECT
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND THEN COUNCIL OVERRULED THAT.
IF DID YOU THAT YOU WOULD DO THAT WITHOUT COUNCIL AND
EXPOSING YOURSELF TO PERSONAL LIABILITY.
I DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT LINE IN THE SAND BUT SIMPLY THE
TRUTH.
WE CAN NOT ALLOW AN ELECTED BODY TO OVERRIDE THESE KIND OF
DECISIONS.
THIS ISN'T AND ADMINISTRATION VERSUS COUNCIL ISSUE.
AN ISSUE YOU GOT TO LET PROFESSIONAL DO THEIR JOB.
AND IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO OVERRULE THOSE KIND OF
DETERMINATIONS WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING PROFESSIONAL
STANDARDS THAT ARE SET FORTH BOTH BY THE PROFESSION IN WHICH
THEY ARE INVOLVED, BUT BY THE FEDS, THE STATE, AND THE CITY
CODE.
OUR TECHNICAL MANUAL.
YOU KNOW, THE WAY -- THE BEST PRACTICES OF THE INDUSTRY.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.
THIS IS THE WAY IT IS ALWAYS DONE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT.
03:56:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT -- MR. CHAIR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,
MISS ZELMAN, THAT IS -- YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH A LOT OF
LAWYERS.
THAT IS A RED HERRING TO SCARE US.
IF WE ARE ASKING FOR A SAFETY STUDY ON BAYSHORE AND IGNORE IT
AND OVERRULE IT, THAT IS ONE THING.
I TOOK ECONOMY METRICS CLASSES WITH PAGES AND PAGES OF MATH.
AND WHY IS IT THAT THE DEMOCRATIC ECONOMISTS AND REPUBLICAN
ECONOMISTS GET THE SAME RESULT BECAUSE OF THE SAME MAP AND
THE MODEL BIAS THEY PUT IN IT.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, IS THE MODEL BIASED.
SOMEBODY IN MOBILITY AND THE ADMINISTRATION WANTED THIS.
AND THEY GO AND ASK THE QUESTION IN A WAY THAT GETS THE
ANSWER THAT THEY WANT.
AND WE CAN -- WE CAN GET THE OPPOSING ENGINEERS OUT JUST
LIKE WE DO IN SOUTH HOWARD.
SOUTH HOWARD, WE KNOW FROM PUBLIC RECORDS, THAT IT IS FULL OF
ERRORS.
AND WE WERE TOLD THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRUE.
AND -- AND THE SAME THING HERE.
TOILET TO TAP, WE WERE TOLD SO MANY UNTRUTH ABOUT IT.
AND WE ARE ALWAYS -- LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS.
LISTEN TO THE EXPERT.
SAME ARGUMENT FOR SOUTH HOWARD.
NOW I KNOW WE SHOULDN'T LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS AND BIASED
BECAUSE OF THE QUESTION THAT THEY ASKED.
IF WE NEED TO REDUCE THE SPEED CONTINUE TO BAYSHORE BECAUSE
IT WILL MAKE IT SAFER, THIS IS SAFETY.
THIS IS NOT A SAFETY ISSUE.
NOTHING TO DO WITH SAFETY.
SOMEBODY WANTED THIS FOR WHATEVER REASON.
A POLITICAL FIGHT, I CAN MAKE A MOTION IN FAVOR OF IT SO THE
MAYOR CAN OVERRULE THAT.
SO IF YOU ARE BEING -- IF WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS
OBJECTIVELY, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP THIS AND OPEN
IT UP AT SOME POINT AND HAVE AN OBJECTIVE REVIEW BY
OBJECTIVE SCIENTISTS.
I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS.
I WANTED TO BRING UP THE TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION.
03:58:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY WHOLE FAMILY IS SICK, AND I WANT TO GO HOME.
LET'S WRAP IT UP.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:58:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO SAY AND I AM SURE COUNCILMAN CARLSON
DIDN'T MEAN THIS AS AN INSULT TO MISS ZELMAN THAT WE ALL
LIKE AND GET ALONG WITH.
I ALWAYS KNOWN HER TO BE A PERSON OF UTMOST INTEGRITY.
I SAY THIS WITH MY LAWYER HAT ON.
SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN AMAZING ATTORNEY AND AMAZING
PROFESSIONAL.
AND, AGAIN, I AM SURE NO OWE FENCE WAS MADE, BUT, AGAIN,
WHEN I HEAR THINGS LIKE SCARE TACTIC AND SO FORTH WITH LEGAL
OPINIONS, I SEE A WOMAN WHO, TO ME, IS -- A DEAN OF LOCAL
BAR.
03:59:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID AT THE BEGINNING I HAVE RESPECT FOR
-- UNFORTUNATELY BY CHARTER, SHE WORKS FOR ALL OF US, BUT
-- BUT THAT POSITION ULTIMATELY REPORTS TO THE MAYOR AND HAS
TO CARRY WATER FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.
SHE MOSTLY DOESN'T.
SHE IS VERY OBJECTIVE.
A SITUATION -- FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE ADMINISTRATION WAS
THIS.
THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW, WHY DOES THE ADMINISTRATION WANT TO
SPEND $500,000 ON SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT
THAT WE DON'T NEED AND OTHER OUTSIDE ENGINEERS SAID WE DON'T
NEED WHEN THE ROADS ARE FALLING APART.
MAYOR WILL BE A HERO IF SHE STAND IN FRONT OF THE CAVE-INS
AND FIXES THEM.
THIS IS A FIGHT THAT ULTIMATELY IS NOT WORTH FIGHTING FOR
THEM.
03:59:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MARTIN SHELBY.
03:59:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
NOT THAT I WANT TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DISCUSSION.
03:59:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT I WILL.
03:59:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT IS MY JOB.
I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I DO SHARE THE OPINION OF THE
CITY ATTORNEY IN THIS CASE.
THE LIABILITY TO THE ORGANIZATION WITH A -- WITH DOING
SOMETHING CONTRARY TO A TRAFFIC WARRANT COULD SUBJECT THE CITY
TO LIABILITY DOING SO WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD RESULT IN
PERSONAL LIABILITY.
I DO NOT WANT THAT.
AN ISSUE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HAS RAISED.
FOR INSTANCE, THE DOCUMENTATION OF TRAFFIC WARRANT
DETERMINATION OF THAT LOCATION.
I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.
BUT I -- I AM -- I SHARE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION, BUT
ALSO, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF THIS -- IF THIS CAN BE AGAIN
-- I WILL -- I WILL RELAY WHAT I HAVE STATED EARLIER.
IF YOU CAN CONTINUE THIS FOR THE NEXT WEATHER MEETING AND
SUGGEST THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY PUT A PAUSE FOR THOSE
TWO WEEKS, ALLOW ME TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
ALLOW ME TO TALK TO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
DOCUMENTATION AND RELATE TO COUNCIL BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE
THAT I HAVE OF THE TRAFFIC WARRANT.
I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT AND BEFORE CITY
COUNCIL AT PUBLIC COMMENT AND CHALLENGED CERTAIN ASSERTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT IF I
CAN BE OF SERVICE.
SO I MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE IF COUNCIL IS WILLING.
04:01:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
04:01:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS NECESSARY BECAUSE
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON DID NOT OFFICIALLY MAKE THE MOTION.
I THINK IT IS MOOT.
TO RE-STATE FOR PEOPLE TO ARE LISTENING, AGAIN, CLEARLY
DEFINED ROLES BETWEEN THIS BODY THE ADMINISTRATION.
WE HAVE THE CONTROL OF THE BUDGET AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
SAID OF WE SPEND MONEY AND BEING IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
YOU DON'T LIKE THAT TRAFFIC -- NOT THIS BODY THAT IS PUTTING
IT IN.
YOU KNOW HOW TO TALK TO.
A POLITICAL DECISION AND ADMINISTRATION DECISION.
MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR BLAME
FOR THOSE THINGS.
MAY BE GOOD OR BAD.
I MAY NOT BE MANAGING THAT DETERMINATION AND WE NEED TO KNOW
WHAT OUR ROLE IS AS CITY COUNCIL.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, CITY ATTORNEY.
04:02:40PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
YES.
04:02:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAKING THIS OPINION OUT.
WHAT ROLE, IN YOUR OPINION, DOES COUNCIL HAVE IN OUR -- WITHIN
THE CHARTER OF MAKING THESE TYPES OF DAY TO DAY DECISIONS OF
WHETHER WE DO THIS AND DO THAT.
A LOT OF THINGS.
THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO COME TO DOWN FUND THE PROCESS.
ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE FUNDING PROCESS, WHAT OPINION DO WE
HAVE, ANY AT ALL OF HOW THE MONEY IS SPEND, IF AT THAT
PROJECT IS APPROVED WHETHER WE PAVE THAT SIDEWALK OR THAT
SIDEWALK.
OTHER THAN OUR RELATIONSHIPS IN ACCOMPLISHING THAT, ANY --
IS THERE ANY LAW OR -- OR AUTRITY VESTED IN US BY THE
CHARTER TO HAVE -- HAVE CONTROL IN THE -- IN THE FISCAL
YEAR?
04:03:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE THE CHARTER OPEN IN FRONT OF ME.
04:03:35PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
FEEL FREE TO READ IT.
THAT IS A VERY BROAD QUESTION.
04:03:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE GIST OF THIS.
AGREE WITH THE PREMISE OF THIS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE
HAVE RESPONSIBILITY.
04:03:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS IS WHAT THE CHARTER STATES AND I AM
READING FROM THE DUTIES OF THE MAYOR, SECTION 4.01.
NOTHING HEREIN OF THE -- OF THE MAYOR SHALL PREVENT THE
CITY COUNCIL IN THE EXERCISE OF ITS LEGISLATIVE FUNCTIONS
AND POWERS FROM CALLING INTO CONSULTATIONS THE BOARD AND
DEPARTMENTS OF OTHER OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY.
WHEREVER IN THE JUDGEMENT OF THE COUNCIL IT MAY BE
NECESSARY, COMMA, BUT NEITHER THE COUNCIL NOR ANY MEMBER
THEREOF SHALL INTERFERE WITH THE CONDUCT OF THE DEPARTMENT
WITH THE DISCHARGE OF THAT PERSON'S DUTY.
WITH REGARD TO MONEY, I WILL REMIND COUNCIL THAT AFTER THE
BUDGET A ADOPTED.
MIDYEAR BUDGET REQUIRES IT TO BE BROUGHT BY THE
ADMINISTRATION.
COUNCIL CANNOT INITIATE A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
04:04:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:04:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
REAL SHORT.
I KNOW RECENTLY WE HAD A LIST OF 10 OR 12 INDIVIDUALS THAT
LEFT TO THE CITY FOR WHATEVER REASON.
TWO YOUNG LADIES THAT CAME AND WAS COMPASSIONATE OF
SENTIMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE DOES.
WANT IT CLEARED UP FOR MY OWN SANITY THAT WHAT HAPPENED, THE
PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW ABOUT THAT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO
GIVE US ALL THE RECORDS OF EXIT ALONG WITH HR TO FIND OUT
WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
I DON'T KNOW.
04:05:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WATCHED -- I WAS NOT HERE.
I WAS OUT OF TOWN.
I WAS NOT A PART OF THAT.
I HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE IN LABOR AND
MANAGEMENT AND BEING A HIRER AND FIRER OF EMPLOYEES IN HR.
I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.
PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT AND THE REGULATIONS ARE VERY STRICT.
AGAIN, THERE ARE IS AN ADMINISTRATION FUNCTION, PERSONNEL
HIRING AND FIRING.
THERE IS -- THERE IS A LOT OF LAW -- A LOT OF CASE LAW.
THERE IS A LOT OF EMPLOYMENT LAW.
WE HAVE BARGAINING UNITS THAT NEGOTIATE THEIR AGREEMENTS.
AND THIS WE HAVE TO CONFORM WITH.
ANYTHING THAT WE DO WOULD JEOPARDIZE THE POSITION OF THE
CITY AND THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY, THAT WE HAVE TO RELY ON
OUR PROFESSIONAL HR DEPARTMENT AND THESE -- YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT HANDBOOK AND NEGOTIATED COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH OUR BARGAINING THAT WE HAVE TO
CONFORM WITH.
AND RECOURSE.
AND BASED ON CASE LAW.
AND BASED ON, YOU KNOW, VERY SPECIFIC PROCEDURES.
WE -- WE DON'T --
04:06:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
04:06:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DON'T PLAY IN THAT.
04:06:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I TOLD ONE OF THEM OUT THERE IN THE
HALLWAY -- THE HALLWAY IN THE LITTLE PARKING GARAGE ONE DAY
WHEN SHE WAS -- I SAID YOU TONIGHT LOOK HAPPY HERE.
04:06:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT IS TRUE AND MAY BE REAL ISSUE, BUT
THERE IS AS -- BUT THERE IS A WHOLE AVENUE.
A CERTAIN WRONGED -- DIFFERENT WAYS OF BEING WRONGED IN AT
THAT EMPLOYMENT.
THERE ARE TRADITIONAL PERFORMANCE ISSUES.
DISCRIMINATION ISSUES.
A LEGAL PATHWAY FOR RESOURCE AND REMEDY.
AND THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO PURSUE THOSE LEGAL PATHWAYS.
AND IT IS NOT POLITICAL.
A LEGAL PATHWAY.
04:07:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT AND YOUR
STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS.
THAT MEANS THAT THAT WE ARE OUT OF IT.
IT IS UP TO THEM.
IF THEY WANT TO PURSUE THE CITY AND FILE, WHICH I DON'T
THINK THEY WILL.
THANK YOU.
THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:07:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:07:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:07:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
04:07:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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