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THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:02:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I'M CALLING THIS COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY BOARD MEETING TO ORDER.
WE HAVE THE INVOCATION PRESENTED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON
THIS MORNING.
9:02:36AM >>BILL CARLSON:
GOOD MORNING.
I'LL INTRODUCE ROBERT PECHACEK WHO GOES BY MR. P.
MR. P WAS BORN WITH A LEARNING DISABILITY AND A SPEECH
IMPEDIMENT BUT PERSEVERED THROUGH PUBLIC SCHOOL DETERMINED
TO SUCCEED.
AFTER HIGH SCHOOL, HE JOINED THE AIR FORCE AND SERVED WITH
HONOR.
EVENTUALLY HE MADE HIS WAY TO TAMPA GRADUATING CUM LAUDE
FROM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA WITH A DEGREE IN SECONDARY
EDUCATION.
PAST TEN YEARS, MR. P HAS BEEN A DEDICATED EDUCATOR AT
COLEMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THIS YEAR HE COORDINATED THANKSGIVING MEALS FOR NINE
FAMILIES, ORGANIZED THE DONATION OF HUNDREDS OF TOYS AND

ASSISTED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP EFFORTS AFTER HURRICANES
HELENE AND MILTON.
HIS DEDICATION TO HIS STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY WAS RECOGNIZED
WHEN HE WAS NAMED TEACHER OF THE YEAR AT COLEMAN MIDDLE
SCHOOL.
MR. P IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER AT HYDE PARK METHODIST CHURCH,
LEADS COLEMAN'S STUDENT GOVERNMENT, AND DEVOTES HIS FREE
TIME TO HELPING STRUGGLING STUDENTS ACHIEVE ACADEMIC
SUCCESS.
I WANT TO THANK HIS PRINCIPAL AND COLLEAGUES FOR ALLOWING
HIM TO GO TO SCHOOL LATE THIS MORNING.
IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE
PLEDGE.
9:03:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ATTENDEES, AND THE
PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
MY NAME IS MR. P.
I'M PRIVILEGED OF TEACHING ON THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY.
TODAY, I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A TESTIMONY TO THOSE WHO COME
BEFORE ME AND THOSE WHO HAVE PAVED THE WAY TO OFFER ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED.
I'M REMINDED OF PAUL'S LETTERS TO THE EPHESIANS WRITES IN
6:4, FATHERS, DO NOT EXASPERATE YOUR CHILDREN BUT RAISE THEM
IN THE LOVE OF THE LORD.
THIS VERSE REMINDS ME WE ARE ONE LARGE FAMILY UNITED IN
COMMON PURPOSE TO NURTURE, GUIDE AND UPLIFT THE NEXT

GENERATION.
LET US PRAY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE HERE TODAY.
WE LIFT UP OUR CITY.
WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM FOR OUR LEADERS THAT
THEY MAY WORK TO MAKE TAMPA SAFER, CLEANER, AND MORE
AFFORDABLE PLACE FOR ALL THOSE WHO CALL IT HOME.
BLESS OUR EFFORTS AS A COMMUNITY THAT WE MAY BUILD A FUTURE
WHERE OUR CHILDREN CAN THRIVE AND ONE DAY INHERIT A CITY
FILLED WITH HOPE, OPPORTUNITY, AND UNITY.
IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
9:04:53AM >> AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:05:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:05:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:05:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:05:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:05:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:05:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
9:05:27AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:05:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO AND BOARD MEMBER
VIERA WILL BE ARRIVING SHORTLY THIS MORNING.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST
MEETING?

9:05:37AM >> SO MOVED.
9:05:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
MOTION CARRIES.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ONLINE.
WE NEED TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.
LET'S DO THAT FIRST.
WE HAVE A WALK-ON ITEM.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A WALK-ON ITEM FIRST FOR THE
CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:06:16AM >> AYE.
9:06:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION CARRIES.
NOW, INTERIM DIRECTOR McCRAY, GOOD MORNING.
LET'S SET THE AGENDA.
9:06:24AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
GOOD MORNING.
CEDRIC McCRAY, INTERIM TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
THE AGENDA WILL FOLLOW.
YOU DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE AS IT RELATES TO THE
GASWORX CDD, SUBMITTED BY MR. TYLER HUDSON YESTERDAY
AFTERNOON TO CONTINUE THAT TO MARCH.
WE ALSO ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS

AND CENTRAL PARK UPDATES TO THE MARCH AGENDA.
9:06:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
9:06:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:07:02AM >> AYE.
9:07:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT'S NUMBER 1 AND NUMBER 3, MOVED TO
MARCH 13.
9:07:14AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT WAS 4.
9:07:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I'M SORRY.
GASWORX IS 4.
NOT THE CAC PRESENTATION.
EXCUSE ME.
HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.
IT IS NUMBER 4 AND THE AGREEMENT, THE COMMERCIAL AGREEMENT,
NUMBER 5.
9:07:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
3.
9:07:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I CAN'T SEE IT.
THE UPDATE REDEVELOPMENT FOR CENTRAL PARK IS NUMBER 3.
THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED TO MARCH 13.
AND THEN GASWORX.
3 AND 4 ARE CONTINUED TO MARCH 13.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION JUST TO GET IT RIGHT?
MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

AYE.
OKAY.
MOTION CARRIES.
NOW WE CAN GET STARTED WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS.
9:08:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.
9:08:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK MOVED TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:08:23AM >> AYE.
9:08:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION CARRIES.
NOW WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE ONE PERSON ONLINE.
MR. RANDOLPH IS ONLINE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK.
WE CAN START WITH HIM.
9:08:47AM >> -- CDC.
SINCE WE LAST SPOKE AT THE MEETING LAST WEEK RELATED TO OUR
UPCOMING MEETING ON GENTRIFICATION, PUBLIC SAFETY AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND CONNECTING THE DOTS, WE'VE HAD OVER
60 RESIDENTS AND OTHERS FROM THE -- THIS WEEK WE WANT TO
EXPAND IT TO INVITE PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE NATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S LIMITED TO A HUNDRED SEATS.
ATTRACTING PEOPLE NATIONALLY IS HOW ABLE TO DEAL WITH NO
MONEY, NO WEBSITE, AND NO OFFICE, POSITION OURSELVES TO
INCREASE THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS FROM THE

BOTTOM UP BY CREATING A PUBLIC/PRIVATE RELATIONSHIP USING A
RESIDENT DRIVEN APPROACH.
TWO OF THOSE PROGRAMS, THE FIRST ONE IS ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE.
RELATED TO EDUCATION.
VIRTUAL A.I. SO THAT NO STUDENT WILL BE LEFT BEHIND.
THIS SOFTWARE WOULD TEACH STUDENTS TO IDENTIFY THEIR
WEAKNESSES AND STRENGTH AND HOW TO EXCEL IN SCHOOL.
THERE WILL BE NO FAILING STUDENTS IN WEST TAMPA.
TEACHER A.I.
STARTING WITH GRADES 7 AND BEYOND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH
STUDENTS TO GET A HANDLE ON THE TECHNOLOGY.
THIS INCLUDES LEARNING HOW TO DEVELOP MOBILE APPLICATIONS,
GAME APPLICATIONS AND BEYOND.
OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE THE FIRST MILLIONAIRE OUT OF WEST
TAMPA USING THIS PROGRAM.
BY PROVIDING SKILLS THAT INCREASE THEIR ECONOMIC VALUE, EVEN
THOSE WITH LESS THAN A NINTH GRADE EDUCATION WILL BENEFIT.
THIS INITIATIVE AIMS TO ENHANCE EMPLOYABILITY.
HOME-BASED INITIATIVE.
THIS IS HOW WE REDUCE GENTRIFICATION BY PROVIDING RESIDENTS
WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO START THEIR OWN BUSINESS AND
PROVIDING THEM WITH TO DO SO.
INCLUDES RESIDENTS WITH LESS THAN NINTH GRADE EDUCATION,
THOSE WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD, THOSE DISABLED AND AT-RISK

YOUTH AS A WHOLE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WEST
TAMPA CULTURAL CENTER WHICH IS THE FIRST CULTURAL CENTER,
COMMUNITY-BASED CULTURAL CENTER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND,
OF COURSE, WE WILL TALK ABOUT BRINGING BACK THE YELLOW
JACKETS HOME TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.
THANK YOU.
9:11:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
MR. KATRINA HOUSE, WE'LL HAVE YOU COME BEFORE US FOR THE
CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE.
GOOD MORNING.
9:11:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS KATRINA HOUSE, THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE CITY
OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY INVITE OUR HONORABLE MAYOR JANE
CASTOR, OUR CHIEF OF STAFF, THE ADMINISTRATION, ALL OF THE
HONORABLE CHAIRPERSONS, OUR DISTINGUISHED SPONSORS, FAMILY,
FRIENDS, MY NEW FAMILY, THE CRA TEAM, AND THE COMMUNITY TO
JOIN US AS WE HOST OUR 37th CELEBRATION.
OUR THEME THIS YEAR, TRAILBLAZERS LEADING CHANGE WILL HONOR
A FEW INDIVIDUALS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED AS TRAILBLAZERS IN THEIR FIELD.
I'M EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU, WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL SPEAKER,
DR. HILL.
SHE IS -- DR. ANGELA HILL.

SHE IS THE ASSOCIATE OF CLINICAL AFFAIRS AT USF HEALTH
COLLEGE OF PHARMACY.
DR. HILL IS A LICENSED PHARMACIST WITH CLINICAL FOCUS ON
ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE AND RELATED DEMENTIA, RESEARCH ON
BIOMARKERS, VACCINE, DISEASE-MODIFYING THERAPIES AND MEDICAL
FOODS BEING INVESTIGATED TO TREAT ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.
WE WOULD ALSO BE ENTERTAINED BY WHAT ABOUT MAMA, JAZZ GROUP
ALONG WITH AN AUTHENTIC AFRICAN DANCE BY THE KUMBA DANCERS.
WE'LL HAVE ON DISPLAY ORIGINAL ARTWORK BY FOUR LOCAL AFRICAN
AMERICAN ARTISTS WHOSE WORK IS CURRENTLY DISPLAYED AT CITY
HALL AND HANNA CITY CENTER.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE PLEASURE OF HAVING IN ATTENDANCE MEN
VISION WHO WILL HELP BE OUR GREETERS.
THIS EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE EVENT WILL BE HELD AT A NEW LOCATION.
THE EXCITING TAMPA THEATRE LOCATED AT 711 NORTH FRANKLIN
STREET ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 17th AT 11 A.M.
DOORS WILL OPEN AT 10 A.M. AND PARKING IS MADE AVAILABLE AT
FORT BROOKE GARAGE, THE FIRST 600 GUESTS WILL HAVE THEIR
PARKING VALIDATED ONCE THE PROGRAM CONCLUDES.
OTHER EXCITING EVENTS TO LOOK FORWARD TO FROM THE CITY OF
TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE THIS YEAR INCLUDE HOSTING OUR
10th ANNIVERSARY FOR A GOLF TOURNAMENT ON APRIL 26 AT
ROGERS PARK.
OUR 27th ANNIVERSARY FOR SCHOLARSHIP CEREMONY WHERE WE

PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR GRADUATING SENIORS LATE MAY AND
ESSAYS ARE NOW BEING ACCEPTED AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE A
COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND MORE.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ONCE AGAIN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY TO EXTEND THIS
INVITATION TO THE PUBLIC.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK PUTTING
THIS COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND TO THE MEMBERS WHO JOINED ME
HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS INVITATION.
AGAIN, THIS INVITATION IS FREE AND IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
AND WILL BE ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 17th.
DOORS WILL OPEN AT TAMPA THEATRE AT 10:00 A.M.
COME ON OUT AND HAVE A GREAT TIME.
9:14:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I SAW SOME MEDALS YOU WANTED TO GIVE US.
9:14:45AM >> I DIDN'T KNOW I COULD BRING THEM UP.
9:14:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OF COURSE.
9:14:49AM >> I DO HAVE A TOKEN OF APPRECIATION TO EXTEND TO YOU ALL
FOR ALLOWING US TO BRING THIS INVITATION TO TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU GUYS, HONORED BY US, A NICE
MEDAL.
9:15:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE CAN GET READY FOR OUR NEXT PUBLIC
SPEAKERS AS MS. HOUSE FINISHES UP.
9:15:31AM >> THOSE ARE AN EXAMPLE OF A TOKEN OF APPRECIATION THAT WE

WILL ALSO PRESENT TO OUR HONOREES ON MONDAY.
BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORMALLY HONOR YOU
GUYS AT ALL OF OUR EVENTS.
YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF US.
MOST OF YOU HAVE ALSO EXTENDED A PROCLAMATION TO US FROM
TIME TO TIME.
SO THIS IS JUST OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU.
9:15:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
9:15:54AM >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING OUR EVENT, YOU
CAN FIND IT COTBHC.ORG ONLINE OR E-MAIL US AT
COTBHC@GMAIL.COM.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE.
IF NOT, I WILL SEE YOU GUYS MONDAY MORNING.
9:16:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. HOUSE.
9:16:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS OUR ATTORNEY ONLINE?
9:16:25AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
HE IS.
9:16:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GOOD MORNING.
WE WILL CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
THOSE OF YOU INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:17:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
YOU KNOW, HERE LATELY WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT GARAGES
AND THE SIZES OF GARAGES.

I REALIZED THAT WE HAVE A TECHNICAL STANDARD FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA FOR OUR GARAGES.
THIS IS IF YOU COME STRAIGHT INTO THE GARAGE.
IF YOU ARE DRIVING STRAIGHT INTO IT FROM THE STREET, NOT IF
YOU ARE TURNING IN.
SO WE'VE GOT OUR NINE-FOOT WIDE GARAGES, WHICH WE FOUND,
BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HOW WIDE YOUR CARS ARE, THAT THAT'S NOT
REALLY WIDE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THE DOOR.
BUT WHAT'S FUNNY TO ME IS WHY ARE WE STILL HAVING
DEVELOPMENTS, A TECHNICAL STANDARD CAN BE CHANGED WITHOUT A
LOT OF HOOPLA.
ALL IT TAKES IS YOU GUYS TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THIS
TECHNICAL STANDARD.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WHEN STAFF PRESENTED A
PowerPoint TO YOU GUYS ON MARCH 7 OF 2024 AND THIS IS
THEIR PowerPoint SLIDE RIGHT HERE -- I JUST SHOWED YOU
GUYS THIS THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS -- THAT WE KNOW THAT NINE
FEET ISN'T WIDE ENOUGH AND WE STILL HAVEN'T MADE A MOTION
SINCE MARCH THE 7th OF LAST YEAR TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
WHAT I'M REALLY DUMBFOUNDED BY IS THE FACT THAT ALL THIS
STUFF WAS PRESENTED AND WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
I NOTICED THAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AT ONE OF THE LAST
COUPLE OF HEARINGS MADE A COMMENT ABOUT, I THOUGHT WE TOOK
CARE OF THIS GARAGE ISSUE.
THIS IS NOT A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGE.

THIS IS A TECHNICAL STANDARD CHANGE THAT YOU GUYS CAN ASK
FOR, YOU CAN MAKE MOTIONS FOR AND HAVE THEM CHANGED IN THE
TECHNICAL STANDARDS.
AND THEY SHOULD BE ON EVERY SINGLE SITE PLAN THAT'S
PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
AND WE ALSO, WITH THE SAME -- IN THE SAME MOTION, THEY KIND
OF TRAVELED TOGETHER, WAS THE DEFINITION OF COURTYARDS AND
THE AISLE-STYLE.
WE NEED TO HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT AN ALLEYWAY IS, WHAT A
STREET IS, AND THE WIDTH OF THOSE AND A DRIVE AISLE, WHAT
THE DEFINITION OF THAT IS.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO PUT IN DRIVE AISLES
INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN STREETS BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIVATE, THEY
GET TO CALL THEM WHATEVER THEY WANT.
IF THEY ARE NOT WIDE ENOUGH, THEN WE END UP WITH ALL THE
OVERFLOW, JUST LIKE I HAVE IN MY LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT
HERE THAT I'VE TOLD YOU GUYS ABOUT AND EVERYBODY HAS BEEN
TO.
WE HAVE DEFICIENT DRIVEWAYS, DRIVE AISLES THAT AREN'T WIDE
ENOUGH.
WE HAVE MADE 27 PARKING SPACES IN MY COMMUNITY.
EVERY TIME WE WALK THE DOGS, I COUNT HOW MANY CARS ARE ON
THE STREET.
DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS 7:00 IN THE MORNING OR 10:00 AT
NIGHT.

THERE ARE AT LEAST 8 VEHICLES SITTING ON THE STREET IN
VISITOR PARKING THAT BELONG TO HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE WE HAVE
DEFICIENT DRIVEWAYS.
JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION AND GET STARTED ON
FIXING THIS PROBLEM.
THANK YOU.
9:20:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
GOOD MORNING.
9:20:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ALISON HEWITT, EAST TAMPA RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER.
MY COMMENTS WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE EAST TAMPA DISTRICT
PROJECTS CAPITAL UPDATE.
ONE IS THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THEY PRESENTED ON THE 22nd TO THE COMMUNITY, ASKING THE
COMMUNITY WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND
THAT NATURE.
MY CONCERN IS THE CRP IS WHAT GOVERNS THE CRA, EAST TAMPA
CRA.
SO THERE WERE NO COMMENTS ON WHETHER OR NOT THE STRATEGIC
PRIORITIES IN THE CURRENT CRP, DID THEY WORK?
WERE THEY SUCCESSFUL?
AND DO WE STILL WANT THEM?
NOW WE SEE THAT 60% OF THE CRP WILL BE PRESENTED ON MARCH
4th, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION TO SEE

THIS IS WHAT HAS WORKED SO HOW DO WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING
UNLESS WE PLAN IT OR TRYING TO CREATE A CRP THAT MATCHES THE
SAP.
THE CURRENT SAP THAT'S APPROVED DOES NOT CORRELATE WITH THE
CURRENT CRP.
IS IT THE PLAN FOR THE CITY TO GIVE US A PLAN OR IS THERE A
PROCESS LIKE THE ORIGINAL CRP TO HAVE A TRUE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT PLAN?
THAT'S ONE ISSUE.
THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE STORMWATER PONDS.
IT'S NUMBER 6.
IN THE CURRENT CRP, IT STATES THAT A SYSTEMWIDE STORMWATER
STUDY SHOULD BE CONDUCTED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED THE
AMOUNT OF SIZE FOR THE STORMWATER PLAN BECAUSE THEY WOULD
LIKE TO RECLAIM SOME OF THAT LAND TO BUILD HOUSING AND
COMMERCIAL.
WAS THAT DONE OR ARE WE STILL GOING TO KEEP THAT STORMWATER
PLAN AND THEN GO AGAINST THE CRP, WHICH THE CRP CLEARLY
STATES, PLEASE CREATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN COMMERCIAL AREAS
TO RECLAIM THE STORMWATER.
THAT'S ITEM 6.
AND THEN LASTLY, I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE SPECIAL PROJECTS
REQUEST, NUMBER 15.
PAGE 15 ON THE CRP IT SAID HOW THE QUESTIONS AND THINGS THAT
SHOULD BE ASKED BEFORE YOU DO A SIGNIFICANT FOR PRIVATE

ENTERPRISE.
THAT INFORMATION, ALL OF THAT PAGE WAS NOT PRESENTED TO THE
CAC FOR THEM TO MAKE AND ASK THE QUESTIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT
THAT FUNDING FALLS WITHIN THE CRP.
ANOTHER QUESTION.
THEY ASKED ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THE CAC, BUT THIS HERE
SAYS THAT IT IS NOT STARTED.
NOT HAVE TO HAVE A CAC RECOMMENDATION BEFORE IT COMES BACK
TO YOU, DOES IT NOT HAVE TO PASS YOU BEFORE IT GETS ON THESE
PROJECT PLANS?
BECAUSE WHAT YOU -- APPEARS TO SAY TO THE COMMUNITY THIS IS
ALREADY APPROVED AND IT SAYS NOT STARTED, LIKE IT COULD SAY
BECOME STARTED, NOT APPROVED.
DOESN'T SAY STILL NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
IT JUST SAYS NOT STARTED.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HAVING CLEAR COMMUNICATION WITH
OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN TRUST AND
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
9:23:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
AILEEN HENDERSON.
I'M HERE TODAY AFTER A MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THE CAC LAST
WEEK.
IT'S IN REGARDS TO THE 1601 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE SPECIAL
PROJECTS GRANT REQUEST.

THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT EVERYONE ON
THAT COMMITTEE WAS ON BOARD FOR THAT RESTORATION PROJECT.
I JUST WANT THAT TO BE UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S
IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT.
THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME INTO PLAY, AND THEY WERE BROUGHT TO
US BY CITIZENS AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND RESPONSIBLE,
ME AS A MEMBER, TO BRING THAT FORWARD.
IT WAS A VERY GOOD ONE BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
IT TALKED ABOUT HOW DID THIS REQUEST GET PAST THE PROCESS
AND TO US FOR US TO VOTE ON IT WHEN -- IF LIQUOR SALES ARE
OVER 50%, THEN A GRANT CANNOT BE GIVEN.
SO MY QUESTION IS, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN BUILT IT, SO HOW DO YOU
KNOW?
WE'RE BEING ASKED TO GRANT MONEY FOR A RESTORATION PROJECT,
WHO IS GOING TO MONITOR THAT?
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IF THEY GO PAST THE 50% SALES?
TAKE THE MONEY BACK?
IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME IN TERMS OF PROCESS.
I NEEDED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
IT CAME UP AT THE MEETING, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY VALID
QUESTION TO ASK FOR US TO GET SOME ANSWERS ON HOW DOES THAT
WORK.
THE QUESTION I HAD, MOST IMPORTANTLY, WAS HOW DID WE GET

HERE TO BEGIN WITH?
WHY IS THIS BEFORE ME?
WHAT IS THAT PROCESS?
I DON'T THINK THERE WERE CLEAR-CUT ANSWERS FOR US.
APPARENTLY PEOPLE MEET BUT THERE'S NO MEETING MINUTES FOR
THAT MEETING AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER MEETING AND THEN THEY
DECIDE TO BRING IT TO US.
I'M A PROCESS KIND OF GAL.
THAT JUST DOESN'T JIVE IN TERMS OF GO OF THE IN PROCESS.
JUST MY OPINION.
THE OTHER THING FOR ME WHICH IS PARAMOUNT, THIS PROJECT SITS
IN YBOR CITY.
I DON'T CARE HOW YOU COLOR IT.
I DON'T CARE WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE.
IT IS YBOR CITY.
I ASKED MR. YBOR CITY HIMSELF, JOE KING CARTER, AND 110% HE
AGREES, ALTHOUGH IT IS NORTH OF COLUMBUS, YOU CAN LOOK AT
THE MAP FOR THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION HERE WITH THE CITY
OF TAMPA, AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT J.C. NEWMAN SITS IN
NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT SINCE 1990 AND THE
PROJECT THAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT SITS IN THE
YBOR CITY LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT SINCE 1974.
AS AN EAST TAMPA REPRESENTATIVE, WHY IS THIS BEFORE ME?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD BOUNDARIES CAN'T BE CHANGED.

THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
ASKING FOR $5 MILLION FROM THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY WHERE IT
CAN BE BETTER SERVED FOR A PROJECT THAT THE YBOR CITY
CRAs, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO, SHOULD BE FUNDING IS WHERE
THIS SHOULD GO.
YOU ALL NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS THAT WERE THERE AND THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT CAN'T BE HERE BECAUSE SOME OF US HAVE
TO GO TO WORK.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.
I HOPE WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
9:27:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:27:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS DREW NEWMAN.
THAT'S ACTUALLY MY PROJECT.
MY GREAT GRANDFATHER FOUNDED OUR CIGAR COMPANY IN 1895.
IN 1953 HE BOUGHT THE CIGAR FACTORY AT 16th AND COLUMBUS.
WE PROUDLY CALLED IT OUR HOME FOR THE LAST 72 YEARS.
AS MS. HENDERSON NOTED, SHE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE'RE IN THE YBOR CITY NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT,
CITY'S LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
FOR REASONS I DON'T UNDERSTAND EITHER, WE'RE IN THE EAST
TAMPA CRA.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO RESTORE OUR FACTORY
AND IMPROVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT IS OUR HOME TOO AND
WE CARE A LOT ABOUT IT AND WE WANT TO PRESERVE TAMPA'S
CULTURAL HERITAGE.
WE'RE ASKING THE CRA IN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW FOR A
GRANT TO SUPPORT THAT PROCESS.
IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE YOU TODAY.
INSTEAD, I'M HERE FOR TWO REASONS.
THE FIRST IS TO SUPPORT WHAT MS. HENDERSON SAID, WHICH IS IT
DOES SEEM AWFULLY ODD FOR US TO BE IN THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC
DISTRICT AND IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
I'M SURE THERE IS A STORY BEHIND IT BECAUSE THERE IS A STORY
BEHIND EVERYTHING, BUT IF THE CITY EVER DECIDED TO ADJUST
THE BOUNDARIES, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE AND
WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS.
AND THEN SECONDLY, MS. HENDERSON SAID, I ATTENDED THE CAC
MEETING IN EAST TAMPA LAST WEEKEND.
I LEARNED A LOT.
IT WAS A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE.
GOT A LOT OF THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS.
AND THANKFULLY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS THAT THE CAC INVITED
ME BACK NEXT MONTH TO BRING ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
I'M DILIGENTLY WORKING TO GET ANSWERS AND LOOK FORWARD TO
SHARING IT WITH THEM.
I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PROJECT.

IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAS QUESTIONS OR WANTS TO TALK
ABOUT IT, HAPPY TO STEP OUTSIDE AND ANSWER ANYTHING.
ANYONE WHO IS LISTENING ONLINE, MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS
DNEWMAN@JCNEWMAN.COM.
CALL, E-MAIL, HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANYONE, HAVE PEOPLE OVER,
WALK THE SITE AND CONTINUE THE PROCESS.
ONE THING I LEARNED GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS IS THAT THERE
ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR CITY WHO DEEPLY CARE ABOUT TAMPA
AND WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER.
AND THAT IS A REALLY GREAT THING BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF
NEED, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY AND I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE CAN BE
A PART OF THE PROCESS AND LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK TO YOU
AT A FUTURE DATE AFTER WE GO BACK BEFORE THE CAC AND
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AND WORK THROUGH ALL THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:29:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
9:29:45AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS KELLA McCASKILL, FOUNDER OF THE CENTER OF
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ADVOCATE IN EAST TAMPA AND CONCERNED
CITIZEN FOR MANY REASONS.
SOME OF YOU SEEM TO HAVE TURNED A DEAF EAR TO THE PEOPLE IN
EAST TAMPA THAT SERVE THE COMMUNITY OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
YOU SEEM TO HAVE TURNED A BLIND EYE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
EAST TAMPA.
WHAT'S CONCERNING IS THE EAST TAMPA CAC IS NEW.

THE MAJORITY OF THE GROUP IS NEW.
THEY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH TWO MAJOR PROJECTS AND THEY
HAVEN'T HAD TRAINING.
THEY DON'T KNOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
THEY DON'T KNOW SUNSHINE.
THEY DON'T KNOW NOTHING.
THEY DON'T KNOW THE PRIORITIES OF THE COMMUNITY.
THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, BUT YET A $5 MILLION REQUEST AND
THE 6 TO 9 MILLION DOLLAR REQUEST IS IN FRONT OF THEM WITH
ABSOLUTELY NO TRAINING.
IT'S CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE YOUR TRACK RECORD IN THE CITY,
NOT YOU INDIVIDUALLY, BUT YOUR TRACK RECORD IN THE CITY
CONCERNING BLACK PEOPLE AND THEIR REAL ESTATE HAS BEEN
QUESTIONABLE.
REMEMBER MADAM FORTUNE TELLER, JUST RECENTLY WE BEGGED TO
GET A NAME ON THE BRIDGE.
SHE OWNED 33 ACRES OF REAL ESTATE, BUT THE MAYOR TURNED
DEVELOPER AFTER HE TOOK IT FROM HER, BECAME A DEVELOPER.
ALL WE HAVE LEFT IS A BRIDGE AND HER NAME MAY NOT BE ON IT.
REMEMBER TAMPA PARK, BEFORE, WHEN THOSE PEOPLE TRIED TO
REHAB THOSE APARTMENTS THAT WAS BUILT BY BLACK PEOPLE FOR
BLACK PEOPLE TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THEY COULDN'T
GET TWO CENTS FROM THAT CRA THAT IS SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF
THAT.
NO SUPPORT.

BUT WHEN THE NEW DEVELOPER CAME ALONG -- AND I LIKE THE
DEVELOPER, SO I WON'T SAY NOTHING ABOUT HIM.
I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR PART IN THIS INVOLVEMENT.
NO SUPPORT FROM THE CRA.
THAT EXISTED BUT YET WHEN THE NEW DEVELOPER CAME ALONG, THAT
RESPECTFULLY DIDN'T WANT YOUR MONEY BECAUSE THEY COULD DO IT
ON THEIR OWN, YOU OFFERED ALL KINDS OF ASSISTANCE.
I'M CONCERNED AS A CITIZEN BECAUSE -- AGAIN, YOUR TRACK
RECORD IS RIDICULOUS CONCERNING OUR PEOPLE AND THEIR REAL
ESTATE.
LOOKING AT CHANNELSIDE CRP WAS WRITTEN 2004 AND SO WAS EAST
TAMPA.
DO YOU SEE THE DISPARITY?
SEEN CHANNELSIDE FROM 2004, THEY ARE WINNING FROM AN OLD CRP
AND EAST TAMPA LOOKS THE SAME.
YOU POLICE A POLICE STATION.
CRIMINALIZE AND THEY PAY FOR IT.
WE DO THAT AND PUT A WELLNESS CENTER THAT WAS A
COMMUNITY-LED PROJECT.
I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:32:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PLEASE BE QUIET --
9:32:15AM >> I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS AND I
THINK THEY ARE LEGIT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY DECENCY IN YOU, ANY MORAL COMPASS, YOU KNOW

THE CONCERNS ARE LEGIT.
SOME OF YOU ARE IMMATURE AND UNPROFESSIONAL ENOUGH TO NOT
SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR YOU.
TO THE REST OF YOU, ONE VOTE AND MANY OF YOU HAVE
ASPIRATIONS WHEN THEY ARE NO LONGER ON THE BOARD.
THEY KNOW THEY ARE DONE.
I'M ASKING YOU TO MAKE THIS BE A WAKE-UP CALL.
WAKE UP AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING.
BOTH CRAs, CRP WAS 2004.
LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE.
NOBODY IS THAT DUMB, DEAF, OR BLIND.
THANK YOU.
9:33:03AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
I'M HERE TO FIRST CELEBRATE A 116-YEAR HISTORY OF THE NAACP.
WE ARE CELEBRATING FOUNDER'S DAY ON FEBRUARY 12th.
AND IN THAT RECOGNITION, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A
YOUNG SISTER, YOUNG WOMAN THAT DIED AT THE AGE OF 44, BUT
WAS 23 AT THE TIME THAT HAD ENOUGH COURAGE TO SAY AND TO
BRING ATTENTION TO THE SUFFERING OF BLACK MEN IN PARTICULAR
THROUGH HER LYRICS CALLED STRANGE FRUIT.
SISTER BILLIE HOLIDAY.
WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE STILL SEE THE ONGOING
SLAUGHTER AND BRUTALITY, WHETHER IT BE PHYSICAL OR THROUGH
POLICY THAT BLACK PEOPLE IS STILL SUFFERING.

HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
SO I WANT TO BRING ALSO TO THE ITEM OF TAMPA HEIGHTS, I
REMEMBER IN 2020, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL BY EIGHT FOLKS, EIGHT
RESIDENTS OF TAMPA HEIGHTS AT THAT TIME SAID THEY WANT TO
EXTEND THE BOUNDARIES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MARTIN LUTHER
KING.
GUESS WHAT.
THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED.
THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED.
IF YOU LOOK AT NOW ROBLES PARK AND ONE STREET OVER, YOU WILL
SEE HOUSES IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AT $500,000.
ALL GONE.
ALL SEMBLANCE OF BLACK LANDMARKS GONE IN THIS CITY AS WE
CONTINUE TO PUT THIS CITY AS BEING SOMEWHAT PROGRESSIVE.
I ADMIRE WOMEN WHO HAVE DONE RESEARCH ABOUT THE SPECIAL
GRANT PROJECT.
I WANT TO SEE HOW YOU SHOVE THAT DOWN OUR THROATS.
ALCOHOL, CIGAR LOUNGE, BAR, RESTAURANT, AND THEY WANT $5
MILLION FROM POOR PEOPLE.
I WANT TO SEE HOW YOU DRESS THAT UP AND TELL US HOW MANY
AFRO CUBANS ROLLED CIGARS AND HOW THAT WILL BE TO OUR BEST
BENEFIT.
I WANT TO SEE HOW WHEN YOU BOUGHT ON LAKE AVENUE AND YOU
TALK ABOUT WALKABLE COMMUNITIES, YOU HAVE THE GATED BUILDING
RIGHT THERE THAT CAN SERVE INTERESTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO

HAVE TRAINING AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP, BUT THAT'S NOT THE
LANDMARK FOR EAST TAMPA.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE LANDMARK FOR EAST TAMPA IS NOW, GO DOWN
COLUMBUS DRIVE WHERE HOUSES CANNOT EVEN BE RENTED OUT.
LEASED FOR ALMOST $4,000 A MONTH.
THIS IS THE STUFF YOU WANT TO SHOVE DOWN OUR THROATS.
WHILE EACH OF YOU ALL HAVE YOUR OWN VISION, THE SAD REALITY
IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS THAT WE ALWAYS START AT SQUARE ONE
EVERY TIME WE GET A NEW LEGISLATOR, A NEW ACTIVIST, A NEW
POLITICIAN TO TAKE US TO THEIR VISION.
THEIR VISION IS WHAT THEY WANT.
NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANT.
WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED.
9:36:13AM >> UHURU, METESNOT.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
METESNOT MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
WHEN PEOPLE COME TO PUBLIC MEETING AND PEOPLE -- YOU HAVE A
DOUBLE STANDARD.
I WISH THEY COULD STOP MY TIME SO I COULD TALK ABOUT THE
DOUBLE STANDARD.
YOU HAVE POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS.
PEOPLE YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
BUT WHEN COMMON CITIZENS COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING AND
PEOPLE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT, NO, YOU HAVE DECORUM THEN.
IT IS A DOUBLE STANDARD.

NO MFING WAY A PERSON IS GOING TO TELL ME, NO WAY,
ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO WAY.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE ME OUT OF HERE IN HANDCUFFS JUST LIKE THEY
BROUGHT US FROM AFRICA, IN HANDCUFFS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME I CAN'T ACKNOWLEDGE SOMEBODY
SPEAKING IN AN MFING POLITICAL MEETING.
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO.
THEY SHOW APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL IN PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THEY SHOW APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL.
YOU ALL WITH YOUR NONSENSE TRYING TO TREAT ADULTS LIKE
LITTLE CHILDREN, LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAME DOWN HERE
FOR.
LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHY WE GOT IN OUR CARS, GOT ON A BUS,
WALK DOWN HERE, CAME UPSTAIRS AND CAME IN THE BUILDING.
LIKE WE LITTLE MF-IN' CHILDREN.
WHAT KIND OF NONSENSE IS THAT?
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS
CHILD SUPPORT.
IT'S ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THIS CITY COUNCIL NEED
TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
IT NEED TO START SOMEWHERE.
YOU ALL MFERS DON'T DO NOTHING.
DIDN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT PALESTINE.
BUNCH OF PEOPLE MASSACRED IN YOUR FACE.
COWARDS.

EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU COWARDS.
YOU ALL ARE SHAMEFUL, SHAMEFUL EXPECTATIONS OF A HUMAN
BEING.
SHAMEFUL EXPECTATIONS OF HUMAN BEINGS, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU.
CHILD SUPPORT HAS BEEN KILLING BLACK PEOPLE.
BEEN KILLING BLACK FAMILIES.
IT'S BEEN MURDERING BLACK FAMILIES.
DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSIONS, INCARCERATION, PURGES, WRIT OF
BODILY ATTACHMENT.
THAT SOUND LIKE SOME SLAVE STUFF.
RUINING BLACK MEN'S LIVES.
RUINING IT.
RUINING THEIR FAMILIES.
THAT HAS TO STOP.
THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS TO DO SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING ABOUT
PALESTINE.
SOMETHING GOT TO COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH BECAUSE IF NOT, YOU
ARE GARBAGE.
AND SOMETHING HAVE TO COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH ABOUT CHILD
SUPPORT.
BLACK PEOPLE SCARED TO COME DOWN HERE AND YOU ARE MAKING
THEM MORE SCARED TO COME DOWN HERE.
YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
ALWAYS GOT A SCAM.

YOU ALL SCAMMERS, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
EVERY ONE OF YOU, SCAMMERS.
9:39:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:39:22AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS RYAN HAYES, PRESIDENT OF CAIRO
AND FRIENDS.
BEEN COMING HERE PROBABLY THE LAST NINE MONTHS TO GAIN
TRACTION AND SO FORTH.
JUST BRINGING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION AT THE OLDSMAR FLEA
MARKET WHERE WE HAVE RESIDED THE LAST TWO YEARS, TWO TRACTOR
TRAILERS, 48-FOOT AND 40-FOOT FULL OF INVENTORY THAT'S BEEN
DONATED TO US.
WE'RE AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW IF I COULD PUT THIS RIGHT HERE,
THEY ARE PLANNING ON EVICTING US FROM OUR TRAILERS BECAUSE
OUR DEPARTMENT STORE HAS CLOSED SINCE MILTON.
I HAVE OVER 24 INVOICES OF PAYING ON TIME MY MONTHLY RENT
WAS $50 PER TRAILER.
THE GENTLEMAN, FLEA MARKET OWNER, HAS WENT UP TO $340 PER
TRACTOR TRAILER, WHICH IS COMPLETELY EGREGIOUS AND JUST
SHOWING WHAT INDIVIDUALS ARE FACING BUT FURTHERMORE
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION CAN BE DISMANTLED AND DEMOLISHED DUE
TO THE FACT OF THESE PREDATORIAL ACTIONS.
QUITE EGREGIOUS.
I REACHED OUT TO THE OWNER.
HIS NAME IS GRADY PREGIN.
THE PROPERTY MANAGER IS MARK JONES.

I HAVE SENT THREE E-MAILS, NO CORRESPONDENCE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO RIGHT NOW.
IT'S NOT AS IF I CAN HAUL THE TRACTOR TRAILERS.
PUT THEM AT MY HOME.
48-FOOT AND 40-FOOT.
FOR THE RECORD, YOU SEE THREE TRAILERS, HUNDRED DOLLARS.
I HAVE OVER 24 INVOICES AND SO FORTH.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF EMERGENCY
FUNDING OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT THAT I CAN HELP US
REALLOCATE TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE OUR NONPROFIT AT
THIS POINT.
IT'S BEEN NINE MONTHS OF US COMING HERE, NOT EVEN ASKING FOR
GRANTS NOR FUNDING.
JUST TRYING TO BE POINTED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO BETTER
EQUIP OURSELVES AND HAVE A SUSTAINABLE PLATFORM CONTINUOUSLY
TO HELP OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY AND BEYOND.
ONCE AGAIN, RYAN HAYES WITH CAIRO AND FRIENDS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
9:41:41AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MALIK ABDULLAH, A MEMBER OF FLORIDA RISING.
WHAT I'M SPEAKING OF -- WHAT I'LL BE SPEAKING ON IS NOT
NECESSARILY REPRESENTATIVE OF FLORIDA RISING, BUT I AM A
MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING.
I THINK THE ADDRESS BY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT I HEARD THAT
IS APROPOS.

YOU ALL SHOULD HEAR IT OR PAY ATTENTION TO IT.
WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT YOUR
CITIZENS ARE SAYING, WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE VOTING
FOR, WHOM THEY ARE GOING TO BE VOTING FOR.
IT'S GOING TO AFFECT YOU ALL.
I THINK IN MOST CASES, THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED DON'T
NECESSARILY NEED TO BE ADDRESSING YOU ALL, EXCEPT TO INFORM
YOU.
WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING THE PEOPLE THAT VOTE FOR YOU ALL.
LET THEM KNOW WHAT A DISMAL JOB WE THINK YOU ALL ARE DOING.
I DON'T SAY FEEL.
I SAY THINK.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE RECORD, I SEE THERE ARE A LOT OF
COMPLAINTS BEING LODGED IN REGARD TO THE WORK THAT YOU ALL
ARE DOING.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE BROTHER NAME.
SPEAK ABOUT A SLAVE MENTALITY.
AND HOW BLACK COMMUNITY ARE SUFFERING THE LACK OF
LIVELINESS, EDUCATIONAL FACILITY, HOSPITALS, JOBS IN THE
COMMUNITY, RETEACHING AND RETEACHING EDUCATING OUR PEOPLE TO
THE REALITY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TERM.
YOU'RE NOT WHITE.
WHITE PEOPLE HAVE BUILT AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO
WHAT THEY WANT, EXCLUDING PEOPLE OF COLOR.

WHY DO YOU SAY THAT, MR. ABDULLAH?
I SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU GO LOOK AT THE PRISONS.
YOUNG MEN, COME OUT OF THE INSTITUTION, CAN'T GET A JOB.
YOU HAVE A MAN -- I MIGHT GET ARRESTED FOR SAYING THIS --
MAN LEADING THE WHITE HOUSE, 34 INDICTMENTS AGAINST HIM,
DON'T SPEND A MINUTE IN JAIL.
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
A MAN DROP A CIGARETTE ON THE FLOOR AND YOU ARREST HIM.
WHY IS THAT WHITE SUPREMACY ENTITLEMENT?
DON'T DESERVE THAT.
YOU ARE THE CHAIR FOR THIS AFFAIR TODAY, RIGHT?
MISS?
9:44:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YEAH, I AM THE CHAIR, SIR.
9:44:42AM >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:44:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOUR TIME IS UP.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:45:02AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:45:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GOOD MORNING.
9:45:05AM >> LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET WHERE MY CHURCH IS
LOCATED.
I COME UP HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK LISTENING TO THESE SPEAKERS,
BUT NOTHING GETTING DONE.
NEVER.

IT'S SAD.
THE MAYOR, SHE DONE INCLUDE THE BLACK FOLKS IN HER BUDGET
AND GOT THAT PLACE OVER THERE CALLED THE JACKSON HOUSE.
BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS.
NOW THE CITY OWN IT NOW.
YOU THINK THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING?
NOT DOING A DAMN THING ABOUT IT AND WE IN TROUBLE.
THE REASON WE IN TROUBLE IS NOT BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO DO
THE BEST WE CAN OR THE BEST YOU ALL CAN, IT IS THE ZERO
NOTHING.
YOU ALL HAVE TO GET ON THE BALL.
WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE WHAT COLOR WE ARE.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING IN THE NAME OF
JESUS.
THAT IS THE WAY IT IS GOING TO BE FOR ME.
I'M SORRY YOU GIVE ME THREE SECONDS, BUT YOU NEED TO GIVE ME
MORE TIME BECAUSE I GOT A LOT THAT I NEED TO SAY.
IN FACT, I WANT TO DEDICATE A HYMN TO YOU ALL THIS MORNING
FOR VALENTINE'S DAY, BUT YOU WON'T GIVE ME TIME TO DO
NOTHING LIKE THAT.
I WANT TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT FOR ALL OF US.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AS I WAS LAST WEEK OR WEEK BEFORE,
WHENEVER.
YOU KNOW WHAT?

YOU ALL GOT TO GIVE US THE RIGHT RESPECT THAT WE GIVE YOU
ALL.
AND JUST DON'T THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE WHITE WE HAVE
TO GIVE YOU RESPECT.
YOU HAVE TO RETURN RESPECT TO US.
WHEN THEY COME UP HERE CRYING, HOLLERING, ALL THEY DO IS
RING THE BELL FOR US TO SIT DOWN.
YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU AIN'T GOT TO RING BUT ONE TIME FOR ME.
I'LL SIT DOWN ANYWAYS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL ONLY GIVE ME
THREE SECONDS, BUT I THANK GOD FOR THE THREE SECONDS.
I WANT TO BLESS YOU ALL THIS MORNING WITH A NICE HYMN.
NOON DAY SUN
LIVING IN THE VALLEY
RISING IN THE NOON DAY SUN
AMEN, AMEN
AMEN
THERE IS JESUS IN THE VALLEY
NOON DAY SUN, AMEN
HAPPY VALENTINE'S TO ALL OF YOU, AND THAT'S TOMORROW, RIGHT?
9:47:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A FINAL SPEAKER.
9:48:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:48:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:48:13AM >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
I'M COMING UP WITH A CONCERN.
I AM A PART OF THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.

OUR MEETING IS NEXT WEEK.
DATA, DATA, DATA.
DATA MAY NOT BE IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY, BUT DATA IS
IMPORTANT TO ME.
IN ORDER FOR US TO EVALUATE, COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND/OR
A SOLUTION, I NEED DATA.
I'M NOT SURE WHO THE DATA IS FLOWING THROUGH, WHO IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE DATA TO SUPPORT OR
DENY WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE, THEN WE'RE SET UP FOR FAILURE
AND I DON'T WANT TO FAIL.
YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME -- LAST MONTH WAS MY FIRST MEETING,
AND IT BLEW MY MIND BECAUSE, AGAIN, I'M ASKING QUESTIONS AND
THERE'S NO DATA.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT ROUTE TO TAKE.
I DON'T KNOW, LUIS, YOUR AIDE HAS BEEN THERE, WHICH HAS BEEN
VERY HELPFUL BUT SHE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT IS THE ADMINISTRATION'S PART IN
DOING IT OR PROVIDING US WITH THAT INFORMATION.
I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION CHOSE NOT TO BE A PART OF IT
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T APPOINT ANYONE TO IT.
BUT THAT SHOULDN'T LEAVE US TO BE IN A SITUATION THAT WE ARE
IN REGARDS TO HAVING NO DATA.
AND TIMELY.
THE TIME HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO I THINK AUGUST, BUT, AGAIN,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING RIGHT NOW AND NOT EVEN FINISHED

WITH IT.
CERTAIN ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE IN DEPTH.
CERTAIN ISSUES WILL TAKE LONGER THAN THE OTHERS.
IF WE DON'T HAVE DATA, THAT IS A PROBLEM.
I'M SO SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
LIKE I SAID, THE OUTLINE WAS LAID OUT.
I ASKED QUESTIONS IN THE LAST MEETING FOR CLARITY, BUT WE
NEED DATA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
THANK YOU.
9:50:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'RE MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:50:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
COURTNEY ORR, CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
I'M PROUD TO INTRODUCE ANDY SCAGLIONE, A MAN WHO YOU KNOW
VERY WELL, SO HE DOES NOT NEED A LONG INTRODUCTION.
I'M PROUD TO WORK ALONGSIDE HIM AS HE LEADS THE CHANNEL
DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
9:50:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GOOD MORNING.
CLERK, PLEASE SET THE TIMER.
9:50:56AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH THE WASHINGTON STREET PARKS
RENOVATION.
PARKS AND REC AND STAFF REVIEWING THE DESIGN CRITERIA
PACKAGE.

STAFF IS WORKING WITH CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION ON A DESIGN
BID RFP.
SECOND ITEM IS NEW SITING, NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AT 810
CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
GREAT BUY LOOKING BACK.
IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD DECISION THAT WE BOUGHT THAT.
STAFF IS WORKING WITH SOLID WASTE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
EPC ON A BROWNS FIELD SITE REHAB.
STAFF IS PROCURING ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FOR
COMPREHENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT REPORT.
STAFF WOULD BE WORKING WITH CAD FOR A PICK OF THREE DESIGN
FIRMS FOR THE PROJECT.
THE THIRD ITEM, CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT INFRASTRUCTURE
IMPROVEMENTS, PHASE C-1 IS TWIGGS STREET WILL BE COMPLETED
BY THE END OF MAY.
CAN'T HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH.
THE TWO REMAINING PHASES OF THIS PROJECT ARE PHASE E-1,
WHICH IS NORTH OF 12th STREET AND PHASE D, WHICH IS
WHITING STREET.
THESE PHASES ARE PROGRAMMED TO BE COMPLETE IN THE NEXT TWO
YEARS.
FOURTH SUBJECT, LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION.
PARKS AND REC STAFF ATTEND OUR MEETING LAST WEEK.
AT OUR CAC MEETING, THEY WERE VERY TRANSPARENT AND HONEST.
WE HAD A VERY ENGAGED NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY JUST SAID WHAT

THE SHORTCOMINGS ARE AND HOW WE NEED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE HONESTY.
CAC DISCUSSED WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE LANDSCAPING
IMPROVEMENT IRRIGATION, AND THERE'S ONGOING CONVERSATIONS AS
TO HOW WE'LL GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED.
THE EXCITING NEWS, AS YOU RECALL, THERE WAS SOME LITIGATION
AT 111 NORTH MERIDIAN REGARDING THE -- I CALL IT CLIMATE
CONTROLLED MINI-STORAGE.
YOU ALL WERE SMART ENOUGH, THANK GOD THAT YOU ALL REQUIRED
THEM TO DO THE APARTMENTS BEFORE THEY DID THE MINI-STORAGE
BECAUSE THEY COULD GET THE FINANCING FOR THE MINI-STORAGE
AND WE WERE CONCERNED AT THAT POINT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE
APARTMENTS.
WELL, WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THEY BUILT THE APARTMENTS THROUGH
THE MEDIATION, CAME BACK TO YOU ALL.
AND NOW WE JUST -- THE DEVELOPER WITH McKINSON, VERY, VERY
LOCAL DEVELOPER OF HOTELS, VERY REPUTABLE, JOE TAGGART IS
THE CFO I KNOW VERY WELL.
HE MADE A PRESENTATION, McKINSON ACTUALLY MADE THE
PRESENTATION TO US.
THE PROPERTY AT 111 NORTH MERIDIAN AND THE STORAGE FACILITY
IS NOT GOING TO BE BUILT.
THEY ARE SELLING THE PROPERTY FOR A MARRIOTT DUAL HOTEL WITH
ADJOINING AC HOTEL.
300 ROOMS, 13 STORIES, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS

BECAUSE HEADS IN BEDS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.
WHAT WE DON'T -- THAT'S 330 MINIMUM HEADS IN BEDS.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IS A MINI-CLIMATE CONTROLLED
FACILITY THAT YOU HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE THERE ALL DAY, THAT THE
HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTY WAS NOT THAT, AND
THAT'S WHY WE FOUGHT IT ALL THESE YEARS.
SO VERY, VERY EXCITING ABOUT THAT.
WE ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LAND.
HIGHEST AND BEST USE THEORY PREVAILS.
SOMETHING SPECIAL TO ME.
GREEN AREA IN PARKS.
CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH.
URBAN LAND INSTITUTE WHEN THEY DID THE STUDY, THIS AREA
SHOULD HAVE 11%.
WE'RE LESS THAN 2.
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE BEING AGGRESSIVE TRYING TO BUY REAL
ESTATE.
AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU CAN'T GO WRONG WITH BUYING DIRT.
YOU ONLY REGRET WHAT YOU DIDN'T BUY.
WE ARE ACTUALLY STILL PURSUING A COUPLE OF PIECES THERE THAT
WE WILL BE GETTING NEW APPRAISALS ON, ESPECIALLY ON THE A
AND D AUTO WHICH WOULD CLEAN UP A BIG EYESORE, BUT AT THE
SAME TIME, BEEN THERE SINCE OTHER DEVELOPMENT AND HE HAS THE
RIGHT TO BE THERE.
AT THIS POINT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

AS YOU KNOW, CHANNELSIDE IS VERY, VERY SPECIAL.
WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP.
YOU ALL HAVE BEEN VERY STRATEGIC IN PUTTING A VERY GOOD CAC
BOARD.
THEY ARE VERY ENGAGED.
THEY SHOW UP TO EVERY MEETING.
WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT RELATIONSHIP WITH COURTNEY AND CEDRIC.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE NEIGHBORS SHOW UP AND THEY ARE
VERY RESPECTFUL, BUT THEY ARE ASKING FOR THINGS TO BE DONE.
I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED, JUNE WILL BE 42 YEARS IN
THE CHANNELSIDE AREA.
WE'LL OPEN IT FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:56:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:56:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. SCAGLIONE.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU CALLED OUT THE GREENSPACE.
DEFINITELY ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I'VE CHAMPIONED AND I KNOW
OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE AS WELL IN THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT
SPECIFICALLY.
YOU HIT IT RIGHT.
THERE'S VERY LITTLE GREENSPACE AND VERY LITTLE
OPPORTUNITIES.
I WAS EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT THE YBOR HARBOR EXPANSION
PROPOSED PROJECT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CHANNEL, THE
AMOUNT OF GREENSPACE INCORPORATED THERE.

HOPEFULLY THE CAC WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH THAT DEVELOPER TO
ENSURE THAT GREENSPACE IS INCORPORATED IN WELL AND FITS
YOU-ALL'S VISION, CAC VISION OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS FAR
AS A MASTER PLAN.
I DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU WHEN THAT PROJECT MOVES FORWARD
THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT GREENSPACE EXISTS.
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
ONE OF THESE GOVERNMENT THINGS THAT HAPPENS.
I SEE MY GOOD FRIEND LINDA SAUL-SENA HAD BROUGHT THIS, YOUR
MONTHLY REPORT BACK IN 2008 THAT THIS WAS A MONTHLY REPORT.
IS THIS SOMETHING FOR GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY?
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AS A WRITTEN REPORT AND POSSIBLY A
QUARTERLY IN PERSON OR AS NEEDED?
IT SEEMS WEIRD THAT WE HAVE THIS CONTINUING SINCE 2008 AS A
MONTHLY REPORT.
9:57:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:57:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EVERY CAC COMES THROUGH.
9:57:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS IT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A WRITTEN
REPORT?
9:57:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I REALLY LIKE HEARING FROM THE CACs.
FOR ME, IT'S VERY HELPFUL.
I WOULDN'T SUPPORT A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:57:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW MUCH OF A BURDEN IS IT TO COME DOWN
EVERY MONTH?
9:57:46AM >> IT'S ONCE A YEAR ACTUALLY.

I WAS INVOLVED IN 1994 WHEN WE DID THE RENAMING OF THE
STREET.
LINDA SAUL-SENA WAS A BIG PART OF CHANNELSIDE.
9:58:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE SAYING WE ONLY GET THESE REPORTS
ONCE A YEAR.
9:58:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE ARE 8 CACs.
ONE EVERY MONTH.
9:58:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW HAVE I MISSED THAT?
9:58:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T KNOW.
9:58:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:58:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ANDY, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS
ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND.
YOU WERE SAYING IT WAS A GOOD DECISION TO BUY THE ONE PIECE
OF LAND, THE SMALL PARK.
ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND THAT IS WAS $400 A FOOT.
I THINK YOU AND WE AND EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY
EXPENSIVE AT THE TIME.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LAND?
SHOULD WE HAVE BOUGHT THE LAND BACK THEN?
9:58:36AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
ACTUALLY, IT IS STILL AVAILABLE AND WE ARE
PURSUING IT.
WE HAVE A WILLING SELLER, WHICH IS UNUSUAL IN CHANNELSIDE.
SO WE ARE PURSUING THAT.
9:58:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
GREAT.
9:58:47AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
IT WOULD GIVE US A GREAT WINDOW FROM

TWIGGS ONTO AN EXISTING LARGE PARK THAT WE HAVE.
IT REALLY MAKES STRATEGIC SENSE AND GETS RID OF AN EYESORE
--
9:58:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER THING AND THIS PROBABLY JUMPS OVER
TO CITY COUNCIL AT SOME POINT, YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT
LINDA AND YOU.
AS I RECALL, YOU ALL WROTE THE GUIDELINES FOR CHANNEL
DISTRICT IN THE BEGINNING.
THE IDEA ORIGINALLY, THE VISION YOU ALL HAD WAS THAT IT
WOULD STEP UP FROM THE WATER.
NOW WHAT WE SEE IS BECAUSE OF ALL THE EXCEPTIONS ALONG
CHANNEL DISTRICT, WE HAVE SOME FOUR-, FIVE-STORY BUILDINGS
LIKE PIER HOUSE.
RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM PIER HOUSE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
SBP THAT WILL GO UP TO THE FAA LIMIT, AND ON THE CITY
COUNCIL SIDE, I STILL WISH WE COULD EITHER INCLUDE CHANNEL
DISTRICT OR PART OF IT IN THE CBD AND/OR RAISE THE HEIGHT
LIMIT.
TALK ABOUT THIS PRIVATELY BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS
ON THAT?
9:59:45AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
ABSOLUTELY.
I HAVE TO SAY LINDA AND I WERE TOTALLY INCORRECT ON THE
VISION WE HAD IN CHANNELSIDE BACK 30, 40 YEARS AGO.
IT WAS FIVE STORIES, THREE STORIES.
WE WERE INCORRECT.

YOU GOT TO GET THE DENSITY.
THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, THANK GOD THAT STARTED WITH THE
TOWERS AT CHANNELSIDE.
THAT REZONING, WHEN THAT HAPPENED, EVERYTHING ELSE BLEW UP.
THERE SHOULD BE NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOWNTOWN F.A.R., WHICH
DOESN'T HAVE AN F.A.R. AND CHANNELSIDE.
YOU WANT THE REMAINING PARCELS, YOU WANT TO GET DENSITY.
YOU ALL SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE AN F.A.R. REQUIREMENT.
10:00:23AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ON THE CRA SIDE, WE COULD SUBSIDIZE
SOMETHING.
ON THE REGULATORY SIDE, BY LIFTING THE REGULATION, WE COULD
HELP DEVELOPERS REDUCE COST, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE
WANT DENSITY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO GET AN EXCEPTION
TO GO FROM FIVE STORIES OR UP TO 20 OR WHATEVER IS ALLOWED?
10:00:41AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
CURRENTLY, AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF YOU, 10.5
F.A.R., BUT, AGAIN, THERE SHOULD BE -- DOWNTOWN DOESN'T HAVE
ONE.
YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE ONE IN CHANNELSIDE.
IT'S ANTIQUATED TO HAVE THAT.
THERE SHOULD BE NO F.A.R. IN CHANNELSIDE.
10:01:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:01:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD COME
THROUGH WITH?
I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CAC COULD COME THROUGH WITH A
RECOMMENDATION FOR ACTION.
COULD THEY COME THROUGH AND MAYBE KICK IT OFF.
10:01:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE'VE HAD IT BEFORE COUNCIL SEVERAL TIMES
AND STAFF PUSHED BACK ON IT.
IF THERE IS A GROUP IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT THAT COULD PUSH
FOR IT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE IS A PUSH FOR MORE
DEVELOPMENT AND MORE DENSITY.
WE NEED MORE UNITS, ALTHOUGH THE RENTALS, PRICES ARE COOLING
OFF A LITTLE BIT NOW.
WE STILL NEED MORE UNITS.
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE WANT THEM.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT WE WOULD TELL SOMEBODY, OH, YOU
CAN ONLY HAVE A FOUR-STORY BUILDING, UNLESS YOU SPEND
250,000, 300,000 TO COME BEFORE US TO ASK FOR AN EXCEPTION.
ALSO, WITH THE CAPITAL MARKETS RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW HOW LONG
THAT DELAYS IT AND IT PUTS THE CAPITAL AT RISK.
IF THERE'S ANY GROUP IN CHANNEL DISTRICT THAT COULD COME
BEFORE US AS CITY COUNCIL AND ASK US TO DO THAT, IT SEEMS TO
ME BY LIFTING SOME OF THE REGULATIONS AND MAKING IT IN
PARITY WITH DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET THAT
WOULD BE A LOT BETTER THAN PUMPING A LOT OF MONEY AND
SUBSIDIZE SOMETHING THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BY RIGHT.
10:02:10AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE
AGENDA, COURTNEY, FOR NEXT MEETING.

I CAN'T SEE NO OPPOSITION COMING FROM THE CAC ON THAT.
YOU WANT DENSITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE REMAINING PARCELS
LEFT.
AND YOU READ THAT RENTS ARE GOING DOWN RIGHT NOW, THAT'S
ONLY TEMPORARY.
IT'S JUST BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT COMING THROUGH THE PIPELINE
AT ONE TIME.
WHAT'S IN THE PIPELINE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF THE CAPITAL
MARKETS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A VERY BIG SLOWDOWN COME IN TWO
YEARS.
10:02:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE'LL MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
[MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:02:51AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CEDRIC McCRAY, INTERIM TAMPA CRA
DIRECTOR.
JUST TO START THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, YOU ALL RECEIVED AT
YOUR REQUEST FOR MONTHLY PROJECT TRACKING REPORT.
I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL.
IF NOT, I WILL GO ON.
10:03:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY?
10:03:14AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
I HAVE A FEW THINGS.
10:03:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EXCUSE ME, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR REPORT AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
CARLSON WILL GO FIRST.
10:03:23AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK HE JUST ASKED US IF WE HAD ANY

QUESTIONS.
10:03:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HE DID ASK THAT, BUT HE WILL FINISH HIS
REPORT AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CHAIR AND THEN WE WILL TAKE
QUESTIONS.
10:03:31AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHTY.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE, AS YOU KNOW WE HAD SEVERAL
VACANCIES IN OUR COMMERCIAL BRANCH TEAM LED BY MS. REED.
ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS JUST RECENTLY HIRED A COUPLE, FEW
WEEKS AGO, MS. KATRINA HOUSE.
YOU HEARD FROM HER EARLIER.
I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
ALSO MS. CELESTE LAU WHO STARTED LAST MONDAY AND WE HAVE
SOMEONE ELSE ON BOARDING OFFICIALLY NEXT MONDAY, TIFFANY
MITCHELL.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS WE'RE BUILDING OUT OUR TEAM.
WE HAD SEVERAL NEW HIRES ON THE PROJECT SIDE AND NOW WE'RE
WORKING ON THE COMMERCIAL GRANTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH THEM SO AS WE'RE HAVING THE GRANTS COME FORWARD, THEY
ARE GOING TO BE FACILITATING AND PROCESSING THOSE TO
FRUITION.
OKAY.
CAC ORIENTATION, I'LL SLIDE SOMETHING ON THE ELMO.
AS YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, WE HAD TWO DATES FOR ORIENTATION FOR

NEW CAC MEMBERS.
WE WILL DO THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR ON MARCH 10.
IT WILL BE AT THE ENTREPRENEURIAL COLLABORATIVE CENTER IN
YBOR CITY.
WE WILL BE SURVEYING AND CONFIRMING WITH OUR CAC MEMBERS,
BUT THEY ARE AWARE IT IS COMING AND IT WILL BE OPEN TO ALL
CURRENT AND NEW CAC MEMBERS.
WE WILL DISCUSS EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN FOR THE TWO AND A
HALF HOURS RELATED TO CHAPTER 163 AND EVERYTHING THAT
GOVERNS THE TAMPA CRAs.
THERE IS AN ITEM THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU ON FEBRUARY
20th AS THE CITY COUNCIL RELATED TO THE INTERESTS FROM THE
FISCAL YEAR 2024.
I DID SHARE THIS WITH SEVERAL OF YOU DURING THE BRIEFINGS.
THAT AMOUNT ACROSS ALL THE CRAs CAME TO $4.6 MILLION.
AS YOU INSTRUCTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THOSE DOLLARS WILL
EITHER GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE LINE ITEMS
WITHIN THE RESPECTIVE CRA DISTRICTS OR DISTRICT
IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT INFORMATION WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU BECAUSE IT IS A
BUDGETARY ITEM AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON FEBRUARY 20.
THE OTHER ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON, YOU HAVE ON
YOUR AGENDA THE GRANT TEMPLATE.
AS WE ARE PROCESSING THOSE GRANTS, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE
LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF YOU.

IT HAS GONE THROUGH REVIEW PROCESS WITH OUR NEW ATTORNEY,
MR. SHEPHARD, AS WELL AS ATTORNEY MASSEY.
STAFF IS GOING TO REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE REVISED COMMERCIAL
GRANT MASTER TEMPLATE AND AUTHORIZATION POTENTIALLY FOR THE
CRA DIRECTOR TO APPROVE ANY NON-SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE
TEXT AND ANY CHANGES THAT WOULD BE DEEMED NECESSARY THAT
WOULD BE BROUGHT TO YOU DURING THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT ON A
MONTHLY BASIS.
I'LL STOP THERE.
10:06:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON WITH THE FIRST
QUESTION.
10:06:24AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, ON THE INTEREST, THANK YOU FOR
FOLLOWING UP.
YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TOO.
FOR THE PUBLIC AND ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THE
HISTORY OF THIS, DURING COVID, THE ADMINISTRATION ASKED THE
CRA TO PUT IN $2 MILLION IN COVID RELIEF.
WE SAID WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE $2 MILLION WAS.
THEY SAID, OH, IT'S IN THE INTEREST ACCOUNTS.
WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY WERE HIDING MONEY IN
THE INTEREST ACCOUNTS.
I'VE ASKED THE NEW ATTORNEY, AND I MADE A MOTION AT THE TIME
WHEN WE PASSED THAT IT SHOULD BE SWEPT INTO OTHER ACCOUNTS
AS YOU JUST SAID.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED RIGHT AWAY, BUT WE'VE BEEN
PUSHING FOR IT EVER SINCE.
WHAT I ALSO CONFIRMED WITH THE ATTORNEY, THE FLORIDA LAW
SAYS IF YOU DON'T MOVE IT, YOU HAVE TO REFUND IT.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL THAT, BUT WE SHOULD
HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE LAW AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN
SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL HAD TO MAKE A MOTION ON.
AND THAT WAS BEFORE CEDRIC AND ANY OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE
WORKING THERE NOW.
NUMBER 2 IS THAT LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC,
CEDRIC AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY TOO.
WE'VE CREATED A NEW GRANT PROCESS.
AND THE IDEA OF THE GRANT PROCESS, WHICH ERICA, ALIS AND
NICOLE AND OTHERS WERE WORKING ON BEFORE THEY LEFT, THE IDEA
OF IT THAT IT WOULD BE MORE TRANSPARENT, MORE EQUITABLE FOR
PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS AND THERE WOULD BE SPECIFIC
CRITERIA.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID THAT IS SO THAT THE STAFF COULD
ALSO SAY NO AND THEN IT WOULD BE LESS LIKELY THAT PEOPLE
WOULD JUMP OVER STAFF AND DEMAND TO COME TO THE BOARD
BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD EMPOWER STAFF TO SAY, NO, YOU DON'T
MEET THE CRITERIA.
ONE THING -- THERE WERE TWO THINGS AT LEAST THAT WE MISSED
IN THAT PROCESS.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT WE LOST IT IN TRANSLATION, BUT I

KNOW I DIDN'T ASK FOR IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS ASKED FOR IT.
ONE IS UNLIKE CITY COUNCIL, ON CITY COUNCIL, THE
ADMINISTRATION CAN PUT AN RFP, GET APPLICANTS, CHOOSE AN RFP
AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE RFP IS GOING ON UNTIL WE GET
ASKED TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT.
IN THE CRA, WE ARE ALSO THE DECIDING BODY.
WE'RE BOTH BRANCHES.
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME PREVIEW PROCESS FOR US BECAUSE AS
GREAT AS AN APPLICATION IS, THE ONE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL I
STARTED GETTING CALLS THIS WEEK.
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, ON THE CITY SIDE, CITY COUNCIL
HAS NO IDEA WHAT'S COMING THROUGH THE PIPELINE UNTIL IT
COMES BEFORE US FOR CONTRACT APPROVAL.
ON THE CRA SIDE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS NEW GRANT PROCESS,
WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER BUT SOMEHOW WE NEED TO FIGURE
OUT A PREVIEW PROCESS SO THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN GET
AN IDEA OF WHAT'S COMING THROUGH AND MAYBE INDIVIDUAL
BRIEFINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND MAYBE THE ATTORNEY CAN
ADVISE ON THAT OR CEDRIC AND HIS TEAM CAN ADVISE ON IT.
THE SECOND THING CEDRIC AND I TALKED ABOUT IS SOME OF THE
CRA DISTRICTS ARE BIGGER THAN OTHERS.
SO A NUMBER THAT MIGHT NOT SOUND BIG IN DOWNTOWN IS REALLY
HUGE IN A PLACE LIKE CENTRAL BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH

MONEY GOING THROUGH.
SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD PUT SOME GUIDELINES DOWN AND I'M NOT
GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ABOUT IT NOW, BUT WE SHOULD ASK STAFF
TO LOOK AT SOME KIND OF GUIDELINES.
FOR EXAMPLE, NO ONE PROJECT CAN TAKE MORE THAN 20% OR 30%
PER YEAR FROM A CRA DISTRICT.
BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS COMING THROUGH, ONE PROJECT
REQUEST TO TAKE UP ALL THE MONEY IN ONE -- FOR ONE YEAR IN
ONE DISTRICT.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT BECAUSE IN DOWNTOWN THAT
MIGHT BE A SMALL PERCENTAGE.
BUT IN A PLACE LIKE EAST TAMPA, IT IS A HUGE NUMBER.
AT SOME POINT I THINK WE NEED TO PASS A REQUIREMENT TO ADD
TO THE GRANT PROCESS THAT LIMITS THE PERCENTAGE PER YEAR.
IT COULD BE THE MULTIYEAR DEAL, BUT AT LEAST IN ONE YEAR
THERE WILL BE A LIMITATION BECAUSE NOT FAIR FOR THE CAC TO
GO THROUGH ALL THE WORK OF PLANNING AND EVERYTHING AND THEN
WE HAVE ONE PROJECT PER YEAR THAT TAKES UP ALL THE MONEY.
THANK YOU.
10:10:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:10:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ALREADY LIMIT THAT BY THE BUDGET WE PASS
EVERY YEAR.
SO I THINK IN EAST TAMPA, THE AVAILABLE FUNDS IN THAT IS
AROUND $2 MILLION, IF I'M CORRECT.
SO 1.2.

SO IT KIND OF -- WE KIND OF DO THAT ALREADY.
IF YOU WANTED TO DO A PERCENTAGE OF THAT PARTICULAR LINE
ITEM, MAYBE.
BUT I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.
BUT WE ALREADY DECIDE HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE SPENT IN EACH
CATEGORY PER YEAR.
AND IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THAT, WE COULD.
THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD.
10:11:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANY OTHER COMMENT?
OKAY.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
I WANTED TO JUST STATE THAT THE APPLICATIONS FOR SPECIAL
PROJECTS, AS SOON AS THEY APPLY, THAT WOULD BE ONE GREAT WAY
FOR US TO FIND OUT AS A BOARD WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE ONSET
OF THE APPLICATION AND PRESENTING THAT TO US SO IT WON'T BE
A SURPRISE IS SOMETHING THAT I'M RECOMMENDING.
AND ALSO, I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT UNDER THE DIRECTOR'S
REPORT WHERE YOU PROVIDE US WITH THE INFORMATION, NUMBER 7,
IS THE ARMY NAVY STORE.
I MADE A MOTION A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK ASKING FOR THE SCOPE
OF THAT PROJECT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ENTITLED TO.
WE VOTED ON THAT WHEN I FIRST BECAME A BOARD MEMBER.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION HAS IGNORED THAT
REQUEST BUT IT WAS A FORMAL MOTION AND I RECOMMEND THAT YOUR

STAFF GO BACK AND LOOK TO SEE WHAT WAS STATED ABOUT THAT.
BUT I DO REMEMBER ASKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SCOPE OF THE
PROJECT ACCORDING TO OUR PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR WHO IS NO
LONGER WITH US.
THAT PORTION OF IT WAS DONE.
AND JUST KINDLY, I WANT THIS TO BE MY LAST TIME ASKING AND
I'LL ASK FOR IT PUBLICLY.
THANK YOU.
CAN WE HAVE -- ANYONE ELSE?
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:12:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA ABOUT KNOWING.
BOTH OF YOU TALKED ABOUT LEARNING ABOUT PROJECTS.
WHY DON'T WE DO IT AS A ONCE A MONTH THING AS PART OF THE
DIRECTOR'S REPORT, GETTING A WRITTEN REPORT OF ALL THE
APPLICATIONS.
THAT WAY WE DO HAVE KNOWLEDGE.
IF WE WANT TO KNOW MORE, WE CAN SIMPLY ASK.
I THINK THAT ALSO ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT'S COMING
FORWARD.
IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION -- AND HELP ME WITH IT.
I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ANY APPLICATIONS IN THE
LARGE --
10:13:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SPECIAL PROJECTS.
10:13:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY APPLICATIONS SUPPORT SPECIAL PROJECTS BE
PER CRA IN A SIMILAR FORMAT AS THE CURRENT --

10:13:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT COULD BE AN ADDITION TO THE LIST THAT
WE RECEIVE.
IN THAT SAME SECTION.
10:13:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LIKE AN EXCEL, VERY SIMILAR TO THE CURRENT
PROJECTS, WHERE WE ARE -- PROJECT TRACKER.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
TO ADD THAT -- PART OF THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT MONTHLY, EXCEL
CHART THAT MIMICS THE PROJECT TRACKER FOR EACH CRA.
10:13:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
I HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:14:12AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALTHOUGH IT'S WORK FOR STAFF TO PUT IT IN A
SPREADSHEET, I THINK IT HELPS STAFF, BECAUSE STAFF IS IN THE
DIFFICULT POSITION.
I THINK I SAID THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, BUT WHEN YOU'RE
GIVING OUT MONEY, 90% OF THE TIME YOU'RE SAYING NO.
IT HELPS STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
MADAM CHAIR, YOU ASKED FOR INFORMATION FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION.
DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ABOUT THAT?
10:14:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ALREADY A MOTION.

IT WAS A SPECIFIC MOTION ALREADY WHERE I ASKED FOR THE SCOPE
OF THE PROJECT.
10:14:39AM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO YOU WANT TO ASK IT AGAIN?
10:14:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO.
I'LL GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
THIS 60-YEAR-OLD BRAIN HAD A FREEZE.
THE $5 MILLION THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE APPLICATION, I WANT
TO SAY THIS PUBLICLY, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE APPLIES AND ASKS
FOR A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THAT IS WHAT
THEY ARE GOING TO RECEIVE.
IT IS FAIR FOR ANYONE TO ASK.
THEY CAN ASK, BUT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A BOARD TO DO
OUR DUE DILIGENCE, TO TAKE EVERY SINGLE THING INTO
CONSIDERATION, AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I DO APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THAT'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT PIECE, AT LEAST FOR ME, TO HAVE
THAT INFORMATION, TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS THINKING.
IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE ARE ALL ON BOARD BECAUSE SOMEONE
CREATED AN APPLICATION AND STARTED A PROCESS THAT WE WOULD
AUTOMATICALLY APPROVE IT, DOES NOT EXIST, ESPECIALLY ON MY
PART, WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK SPACES.
IF YOU ARE LISTENING EVERY WEEK, THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
TO ME, NOT ONLY AS A BOARD MEMBER BUT A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER,
THE PRESERVATION OF PREDOMINANTLY, AT ONE TIME, AFRICAN
AMERICAN SPACES.

AND ADDRESSING THE ADMINISTRATION IN THAT CAPACITY AS I DID
LAST WEEK WHEN THEY WORKED SO DILIGENTLY TO TAKE CARE OF THE
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA WITH SUCH
GREAT CARE.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER SPACES AND I ASKED THIS BOARD,
THIS CITY COUNCIL, THAT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO
CONSIDER WHEN IT COMES TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY.
I HAD ANOTHER COMMENT AND I'M KIND OF MAD AT MYSELF I CAN'T
REMEMBER IT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT?
OKAY.
CAN I GET ALSO A MOTION ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL GRANT AGREEMENT
RECOMMENDATION?
GO AHEAD.
10:16:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 5, 6, 7.
10:16:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVALS AND A
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
NOW WE HAVE -- YES, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:16:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING YOU SAID, YOU
TALKED ABOUT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN SPACES AND WHERE WE HAVE

BEEN TRYING FOR YEARS TO FUND THE JACKSON HOUSE.
BESIDES THE FEEDBACK WE'VE HAD FROM THE CAC ON THEIR
PRIORITIES, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A PRESENTATION OR
DISCUSSION ABOUT HISTORIC BUILDING OR HISTORIC MEETING
SPACES IN EAST TAMPA.
I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO YOU TO MAKE A MOTION.
IF YOU EVER WANTED TO DO THAT, I WOULD SUPPORT HAVING
HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND/OR THE COMMUNITY COME BEFORE US
AND TALK ABOUT THESE IMPORTANT SPACES THAT WE SHOULD PUT AT
LEAST ON OUR LONG-TERM LIST.
10:17:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ABSOLUTELY.
IT IS MY AIM FOR US TO GET PAST JUST PUTTING UP HISTORICAL
MARKERS FOR WHAT USED TO BE.
I AM DEFINITELY PAST THAT.
THAT IS VERY OBVIOUS IN MY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON A REGULAR
BASIS.
IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO EVEN SIT AND ENJOY
THOSE, RIGHTFULLY SO THE RECOGNITION IS THERE, BUT THE
HISTORICAL SPACES ARE GONE AND NO LONGER EXISTING.
EVEN DEVELOPERS ARE VERY CAREFUL.
THEY NO LONGER USE, AND I GOT THIS FROM SOMEONE YESTERDAY.
THEY INTENTIONALLY DO NOT USE THE WORD GENTRIFICATION
BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT IS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION.
WE ARE UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
WE CAN START FROM HERE, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA, BOARD MEMBER

VIERA.
10:18:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE SOMETHING.
CHAIRWOMAN, I ASKED THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE ON THE HART BOARD
WITH ME.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT'S YOUR DISTRICT.
ARE YOU GOING TO BE MOTIONING ON THE FARE-FREE STREETCAR?
10:18:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AM I DOING THAT TODAY OR THIS AFTERNOON?
THAT IS NOT A CRA.
10:18:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S CRA.
THAT'S FINE.
LET ME GO LAST WITH A MOTION, IF I MAY, PLEASE.
I WANT TO -- MANY OF YOU ALL KNOW LIEUTENANT BALDOMERO
LOPEZ, WHO WAS OUR, I THINK, ONE OF OUR FIRST MEDAL OF HONOR
RECIPIENTS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, SEPTEMBER 15, 1950,
BATTLE IN KOREA, HE JUMPED ON THE GRENADE AND SAVED LIVES OF
FELLOW MARINES IN THE KOREAN WAR.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND FORMER JUDGE E.J.
SALCINES ON HAVING A PROPER MEMORIAL FOR HIM --
10:19:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EXCUSE ME, BOARD MEMBER VIERA, THOSE TYPE
OF MOTIONS ARE NOT MADE AT CRA.
10:19:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS FOR CRA.
10:19:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT IS FOR CRA?
10:19:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS.
10:19:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I APOLOGIZE.
10:19:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON THIS AND

WE'RE GEARING IT TOWARDS THE CRA.
SO I MOTION FOR COREY ROBINSON WITH THE CRA TO WORK WITH
ROBIN NIGH AND JUDGE EJ SALCINES ON A PROSPECTIVE MONUMENT
WITHIN OUR CRA TO HONOR THE LATE TAMPA HERO LOPEZ.
AND I WANT THIS TO BE BROUGHT BACK ON A REPORT UNDER STATUS
LET'S SAY AT OUR JUNE CRA MEETING.
10:19:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHICH CRA?
10:20:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO THAT IS UNKNOWN.
IT MAY BE THE YBOR CITY CRA.
IT MAY BE THE WEST TAMPA CRA.
THEY ARE GOING TO WORK ON THAT.
SO WE DON'T KNOW YET.
10:20:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:20:16AM >> AYE.
10:20:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
10:20:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET ME GO LAST WITH A MOTION, IF I MAY.
10:20:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN PASSES.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK?
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON?
10:20:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT MOTION YOU ALL ARE GOING
TO MAKE ON THE STREETCAR, IN GENERAL I THINK IT IS THE
CITY'S DUTY TO SUPPORT THE STREETCAR, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT

TO HAVE A ROBUST PUBLIC DISCUSSION BEFORE WE PROPOSE ANY
SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
LET ME MAKE THIS MOTION AND THEN I CAN EXPLAIN IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CRA STAFF TO SPEAK WITH
CHIEF TRIPP AND THE FIREFIGHTERS UNION TO DETERMINE A
PROPOSED BALLPARK BUDGET FOR A DOWNTOWN FIRE STATION AND
NECESSARY EQUIPMENT.
ALSO TO ASK CRA STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CRA ATTORNEY SHEPHARD
ON A PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT COULD BE PROPOSED TO THE
COUNTY.
REQUEST STAFF TO RETURN ON MARCH 13 FOR APPROVAL OF
AMENDMENT AND BUDGET TO BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY FOR
APPROVAL.
10:21:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
10:21:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, DISCUSSION.
10:21:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE WE ALLOWED TO USE CRA FUNDS FOR THE
FIRE STATION?
10:21:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THERE IS A SPECIFIC EXCLUSION ON PAYING FOR
BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE IN THE CITY BUDGET.
HOWEVER, THERE'S ALSO A LOOPHOLE THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN
SPEND MONEY ON ADDITIONAL PROJECTS IF YOU HAVE THE APPROVAL
OF THE OTHER PARTICIPATING GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET AN AMENDMENT FROM THE COUNTY.

IF THE COUNTY APPROVES SPENDING MONEY ON A FIRE STATION IN
DOWNTOWN, WE CAN DO THAT.
I THINK THE ATTORNEY IS ONLINE.
HE CAN EXPLAIN.
10:22:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK HAS A COMMENT FIRST.
10:22:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, PROPOSED BALLPARK
BUDGET?
I'M CONFUSED.
10:22:22AM >>BILL CARLSON:
LET ME PUT ESTIMATE INSTEAD OF BALLPARK.
10:22:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, OKAY.
BALLPARK.
10:22:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ESTIMATING.
10:22:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS LIKE, HOLD ON.
10:22:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE GIST OF IT IS TO ASK THE FIRE CHIEF AND
THE FIREFIGHTERS UNION HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE TO BUILD A FIRE
STATION AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES IN IT -- SORRY,
SHOULDN'T HAVE INCLUDED THAT WORD, THAT WAS A BAD WORD.
AND THEN TO ASK THE CRA ATTORNEY TO DEVELOP THE AMENDMENT,
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT COULD GO TO THE COUNTY AND THEN
PRESENT IT TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING AND WE'LL HEAR THE
BUDGET AND WHAT WOULD BE INCLUDED AND WE'LL SEE THE
AMENDMENT AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE THOSE IF WE WANT OR WE CAN
EDIT THEM AND COME BACK THE NEXT MONTH.
IF WE APPROVE THEM, THEN THE CRA ATTORNEY COULD TAKE THAT TO
THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY COULD LOOK AT IT

AND DETERMINE IF THE COUNTY COMMISSION VOTED ON IT AND IF WE
VOTED ON IT AND THEY VOTED ON IT, WE COULD SET ASIDE A
BUDGET TO BE USED ON A FIRE STATION IN DOWNTOWN.
10:23:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU ALREADY HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH THE
CRA ATTORNEY?
10:23:22AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WOULD YOU LIKE HIM TO EXPLAIN.
10:23:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WOULD LIKE FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT
THERE IS CONFIRMATION ON THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS HAPPENING.
10:23:29AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
YES, MA'AM.
HAPPY TO DO THAT.
THE STATUTE THAT GOVERNS HOW YOU SPEND MONEY IN A CRA IS
163.387.
WITHIN THAT STATUTE, SECTION 3B SAYS, ALTERNATE PROVISIONS
CONTAINED IN AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN A TAXING
AUTHORITY AND THE GOVERNING BODY THAT CREATED THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MAY SUPERSEDE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS
SECTION WITH RESPECT TO THAT TAXING AUTHORITY.
THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MAY BE AN ADDITIONAL
PARTY TO ANY SUCH AGREEMENT.
WHAT THAT LEAVES YOU ABLE TO DO IS IF YOU CAN GET THE COUNTY
TO AGREE VIA INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THEY
CONTRIBUTE TO THE TIF, THEN YOU CAN DO THINGS THAT OTHERWISE
WOULD CLEARLY BE PROHIBITED UNDER THE STATUTE.
THE DIFFICULTY, FRANKLY, IS USUALLY GETTING THE COUNTY TO
AGREE.

BUT AS I EXPLAINED TO MEMBER CARLSON, AND HAVE EXPLAINED AT
VARIOUS TIMES TO OTHERS, IF YOU HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH
RELATIONSHIP WHERE THE PROJECT IS MERITORIOUS ENOUGH YOU
MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE.
I USED THE EXAMPLE, WHEN SPEAKING TO MR. CARLSON, OF
JACKSONVILLE BEACH AND WHERE THE FORMER CRA DIRECTOR THERE
WAS ABLE TO GET AN AGREEMENT WITH JACKSONVILLE, WHICH IS A
CONSOLIDATED COUNTY WITH DUVAL COUNTY, AS YOU KNOW, TO BUILD
-- I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS A POLICE STATION OR FIRE
STATION, ONE OF THOSE TWO -- AND BECAUSE THERE WAS AN
AGREEMENT, THERE WAS NO ISSUE THERE.
MORE RECENTLY IN FORT MYERS, ANOTHER ONE OF THE CRAs I
REPRESENT, THERE WAS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, A COPY OF
WHICH I SENT TO MR. CARLSON THIS MORNING AT HIS REQUEST, TO
ALLOW MONEY TO BE EXPENDED ON MARKETING AND SPECIAL EVENTS.
AGAIN, THIS IS TYPICALLY NOT AN EASY ASK, AND IT WOULD NOT
SURPRISE ME FOR COUNTIES TO SAY NO.
BUT IN LEE COUNTY, FORT MYERS WAS ABLE TO CONVINCE ENOUGH
COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE FOR IT WITH CERTAIN CAPS THAT CAN ONLY
SPEND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY.
HAS TO BE RELEGATED TO THE SPECIFIC CRA.
IT'S ONLY SO MUCH BASED ON A PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL
BUDGET FOR THAT CRA AND SO FORTH.
BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO TAKE A NUMBER OF MARKETING EVENTS AND
SPECIAL EVENTS THAT THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO FUND AND GET

THE PERMISSION OF THE COUNTY TO SPEND UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT
OF MONEY ON THOSE EVENTS.
SO THE TRICK BEING, GETTING AGREEMENT FROM THE COUNTY, BUT
WITH THAT, I ALREADY HAVE A TEMPLATE OF AN AGREEMENT WHICH,
AGAIN, I FORWARDED TO MEMBER CARLSON AND CERTAINLY CAN SEND
IT TO YOU ALL AS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
10:26:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, PLEASE SHARE IT WITH ALL OF US.
10:26:09AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
AND TAKE IT FROM THERE.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
YES.
CAN IT BE DONE?
WILL THE COUNTY AGREE?
THAT IS THE UNKNOWN.
10:26:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
IF YOU CAN SEND THAT TO ALL OF US, THAT IS GREATLY
APPRECIATED.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT?
10:26:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS VERY BROAD, BUT I JUST SPENT EIGHT
HOURS MONDAY NIGHT WITH STATION ONE DOING A RIDE-ALONG.
I DON'T KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, KIND OF HANGOUT
ROOM WHERE THEY WATCH TV, HAVE DESKS, COMPUTERS, SMELLS LIKE
A SEWER OR MOLD.
IT'S BAD.
IT'S LIKE REALLY BAD.

STATION ONE NEEDS TO BE REDONE.
WOULD THIS BE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
10:27:00AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE STUDY THAT WAS
DONE BY JOE GRECO AND THE UNION A FEW YEARS AGO SHOWS WE
NEED ANOTHER STATION DOWNTOWN AND IN PARTICULAR NEAR WHERE
THE GARAGE IS FOR THE PORT.
SO WE COULD ADD THAT IN.
THIS IS IN A WAY A TEST CASE TO SEE IF THE COUNTY WOULD DO
IT.
IT IS A SEPARATE AGREEMENT.
IT'S NOT REOPENING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO IT.
IF SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, NOW WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE MONEY
IN EAST TAMPA, THAT'S NOT IT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION WOULD TURN DOWN
SUPPORTING THE FIREFIGHTERS.
WE COULD SEE AS A TEST CASE.
NEXT MONTH, AFTER WE GET THIS PRESENTATION, YOU MIGHT WANT
TO ADD THAT IN AND WE COULD TRY FOR BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
10:27:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OR, HONESTLY, THE EXPANSION OF STATION ONE
MAY BE ABLE TO DO A LOT.
ACTUALLY THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH
THE FIREFIGHTERS AT STATION ONE, THE ABILITY TO ADD THE
STUFF THE PORT NEEDS.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT STATION ONE, I MEAN, A LOT OF THE STATIONS NEED HELP,
BUT STATION ONE PARTICULARLY, IT TRULY BOTHERED ME THAT WE
HAVE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS SPENDING TIME IN A SPACE THAT JUST
IS NOT SAFE.
10:28:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON
-- I APOLOGIZE.
YOU DID HAVE A COMMENT.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:28:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU SURE THE STINK WASN'T THOSE BIG
OLD SWEATY FIREFIGHTERS?
10:28:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DON'T ANSWER THAT, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:28:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ASSURE YOU.
10:28:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED THIS
AS WELL, WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS.
CHIEF -- I SUPPORT CHIEF TRIPP AND HER AGENDA ON THIS.
WE HAVE LAND AT STATION ONE.
WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO MOVE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF,
WORK ANYWHERE.
DON'T HAVE TO BE AT FIRE STATION ONE.
WE HAVE ENOUGH TO ADD BAYS THERE.
I THINK INCORPORATING INTO YOUR MOTION THAT THAT SHOULD BE
EXPLORED, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE FISCALLY PRUDENT AND
CONSERVATIVE WITH OUR MONEY AND HOW WE SPEND IT AND
PRIORITIZATION.
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON FLEET MAINTENANCE.

MOVING FORWARD ON THE NEW FIRE STATIONS UP NORTH.
AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS.
WE'RE SO FAR BEHIND, DECADES BEHIND IN SOME OF THE STATIONS,
RENOVATIONS, IMPROVEMENTS, ADDING BAYS.
I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST NEEDS, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME
CORRECT ABOUT THE EXPERT TESTIMONY THAT'S COME BEFORE US,
EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND SPECIFICALLY SOUTHERN PARTS OF
HARBOUR ISLAND GETTING AN AMBULANCE DOWN THERE WHERE WE MAY
HAVE RESPONSE TIME ISSUES.
WE NEED TO HAVE QUANTITATIVE.
I BELIEVE MS. LOCKETT WAS TALKING ABOUT DATA AND DEALING
WITH ISSUES THAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH.
I THINK IT IS THE SAME THING.
DATA, WE NEED TO MAKE THE FISCAL DECISIONS BASED ON
QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS AND WHAT THE ACTUAL NEED IS.
I WANT TO RIGHT SET THIS CONVERSATION AND NOT BE LIMITED.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA OF ENTERING IN THIS CONVERSATION
WITH THE COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING WITH
MAYBE CREATING EMERGENCY RESPONSE BAY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO
SERVICE THE SOUTHERN PARTS OF THIS AREA WITH MAYBE
CHANNELSIDE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE MORE ABUNDANT
AVAILABLE FUNDS.
LET'S LOOK AT IT.
I THINK WE NEED TO RIGHT SET THAT AND LOOK AT THE DATA.
10:30:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA FOLLOWED BY A COMMENT

FROM INTERIM DIRECTOR.
AND THEN CIRCLE BACK TO YOU, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:30:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
YEAH, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF ANY METHOD WE CAN USE TO HELP REMEDY
WHAT I THINK IS A CHALLENGE WE HAVE DOWNTOWN.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT DOWNTOWN 30 YEARS AGO, WE HAD ONE FIRE
STATION THERE.
WE PRETTY MUCH BUILT A CITY WITHIN THE CITY OF DOWNTOWN.
THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T NEED AT THE VERY LEAST, AT THE VERY
LEAST SOMETHING AKIN TO STATION 25, MEDICAL ONLY IN
DOWNTOWN, GEARED TOWARDS CHANNELSIDE, I JUST DON'T SEE ANY
RATIONAL BASIS IN THAT.
THAT IS, WE NEED THAT.
IF WE USE GENERAL REVENUE DOLLARS OR CRA DOLLARS OR WE
SUCCESSFULLY FUND IT THROUGH LEMONADE STANDS, WHATEVER,
LET'S GET IT DONE.
IF THIS IS A WAY WE CAN HELP MOVE THAT FORWARD.
MY GOAL, WHENEVER I TALK TO THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS, I GO BY
THE TIME WE LEAVE, WE OUGHT TO DO THREE THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, GET STATION 25 BUILT OR 24 BUILT FOR NORTH
TAMPA.
NUMBER TWO, HAVE CONCRETE MOVEMENT ON FLEET MAINTENANCE AND
HAVE THE PROPERTY PURCHASED AND BEGIN ON THE CONSTRUCTION.
NUMBER THREE, HAVE SOMETHING IN DESIGN CONCEPTION FOR
DOWNTOWN.

SO IF THIS HELPS US MOVE FORWARD AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH
THE LAW, MAYBE YOU DO IT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR
FEASIBILITY, WHATEVER.
LET'S DO IT.
WHATEVER METHOD WE CAN, WE SHOULD GO FORWARD WITH ALL VIGOR.
10:31:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
INTERIM DIRECTOR McCRAY.
10:31:52AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
ONE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
10:31:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IS IT ABOUT THIS TOPIC?
10:31:58AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, MA'AM.
10:31:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
LET US VOTE.
10:32:02AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE UNION HAS DATA, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS
DATA.
WE'VE HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS TOPIC BEFORE, BUT WE
WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH AND THEN TO
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK'S POINT, YEAH, THERE ARE FIRE STATIONS
ALL OVER THE CITY THAT NEED HELP.
FIRE STATIONS IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT DESPERATELY NEED HELP BUT
THEY ARE NOT IN CRA DISTRICTS.
IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO FUND FIREFIGHTERS, THAT WOULD BE
GREAT.
I CHANGED -- ALSO, DON'T FORGET THIS, THE SUMMARY OF THIS IS
THAT WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT FOR DISCUSSION NEXT MONTH.
YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR ANYTHING YET.
CAN I READ IT AGAIN TO REFLECT THE EDITS?

I CHANGED BALLPARK TO ESTIMATE.
AND THEN I ADDED AND/OR RENOVATION OF STATION ONE.
10:32:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AND A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
THANK YOU.
10:32:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL GIVE THE CLERK A WRITTEN COPY OF THIS.
MOTION TO ASK CRA STAFF TO SPEAK WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND THE
FIREFIGHTERS UNION TO DETERMINE A PROPOSED ESTIMATE BUDGET
FOR A DOWNTOWN FIRE STATION AND/OR RENOVATION OF STATION ONE
AND NECESSARY EQUIPMENT.
ALSO TO ASK CRA STAFF TO WORK WITH CRA ATTORNEY SHEPHARD ON
A PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT COULD BE PROPOSED TO THE COUNTY,
REQUEST STAFF TO RETURN ON MARCH 13 FOR APPROVAL OF
AMENDMENT AND BUDGET TO BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY FOR
APPROVAL.
10:33:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE THAT AND A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER
MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:33:27AM >> AYE.
10:33:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANYONE OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
YES, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:33:33AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE OTHER QUICK THING, JUST PASS THIS DOWN.
THIS IS A RECURRING ISSUE IN THE CRA THAT HAS BEEN THE
SOURCE OF DIFFICULTY FOR STAFF.
AND ATTORNEY -- I'LL GIVE THESE TO THE CLERK.

THESE ARE TWO JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
ONE FOR CRA COMMUNICATION ENGAGEMENT MANAGER AND THE OTHER
FOR CRA CONTRACTS AND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THESE WERE NOT APPROVED BY US.
BUT THE LAST SENTENCE AT THE END OF THE NATURE WORK, SAYS
THIS IS AN APPOINTED POSITION WITH THE EMPLOYEE SERVING AT
THE PLEASURE OF THE MAYOR.
I SENT E-MAILS BACK AND FORTH TO CHIEF OF STAFF AND ANDREA
ZELMAN.
WE MIGHT NEED TO END UP TWEAKING OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY
AT SOME POINT JUST TO CLARIFY.
WE ALREADY VOTED THAT WE BELIEVE THAT ALL POSITIONS WITHIN
THE CRA REPORT TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
BUT IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THE CITY DISAGREES WITH THAT,
THEN WE MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE THE AGREEMENT.
WE COULD DO THAT WITH A COUPLE OF SENTENCES, PROBABLY.
BUT IT'S NOT FAIR -- THE POINT HERE, IT'S NOT FAIR TO
SOMEBODY APPLYING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT
THEIR REAL CONDITION IS.
YES, TECHNICALLY AT THE CITY AND THROUGH THE AGREEMENT WE
HAVE WITH THE CITY, THE MAYOR CAN FIRE SOMEBODY.
BUT IN REALITY, DAY TO DAY, THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE CRA
PEOPLE.
IF YOU GO DOWN, THEN IT SAYS EXAMPLES OF DUTIES.
THIS IS UNDER COMMUNICATIONS WHICH HAPPENS TO BE AN AREA

THAT I SPECIALIZE IN.
SUPERVISE AND GUIDE CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGERS AND COMMUNITY
ADVISORY COMMITTEES.
THAT'S SURPRISING THAT NOW THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT -- CRA
DEVELOPMENT MANAGERS REPORT TO THIS CERTAIN.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.
ASSIST WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLANS.
OKAY.
MAYBE.
TAKES A LEADING ROLE IN STRATEGIC PLANNING -- THIS IS SAYING
THE COMMUNICATION PERSON IS TAKING THE LEADING ROLE IN
STRATEGIC PLANNING.
GETTING INPUT ON STRATEGIC PLANNING I CAN UNDERSTAND BUT NOT
THAT.
THE NEXT ONE SAYS -- TWO DOWN SAYS REPRESENTS THE CITY,
COLLABORATING WITH CITIZEN BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND PUBLIC ON
CITY-RELATED REDEVELOPMENT ISSUES.
IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THE CRA.
THE ATTORNEY WILL CONFIRM AND THIS IS WHERE WE'VE HAD
PROBLEMS WITH THE ARTS POSITION AND OTHERS AND HOUSING, THE
CITY CANNOT SUBSIDIZE CITY POSITIONS WITH CRA MONEY.
CRA MONEY CAN ONLY BE SPENT BY LAW ON CRA ACTIVITIES.
WHAT THIS SPECIFICALLY SAYS IS CITY RELATED DEVELOPMENT
ISSUES.
THAT IMPLIES IT WOULD INCLUDE NON-CRA ISSUES.

IT'S MISLEADING TO THE APPLICANTS BECAUSE THEY ONLY WILL BE
WORKING ON CRA DEVELOPMENT.
NEXT ONE, ACTIVITY SEEKS ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO
LEVERAGE -- NOW THE PERSON IS A FUND-RAISER TOO.
ANYWAY, I COULD GO THROUGH BOTH OF THESE IN HAD DETAIL.
THE POINT IS, I WOULD LIKE TO -- LET ME READ MY MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CITY HR DEPARTMENT
TO STOP ADVERTISING THE CRA COMMUNICATION AND THE CONTRACT
POSITIONS TO GET BOARD AND MR. SHEPHARD'S FEEDBACK ON
CRITERIA AND RETURN ON MARCH 13 WITH REVISED JOB
DESCRIPTIONS AND ADS FOR CRA APPROVAL.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEBATE -- INSTEAD OF DEBATING ALL THE
MERITS OF THIS NOW, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS JUST ASK STAFF TO
TALK TO US INDIVIDUALLY AND TALK TO THE CRA ATTORNEY WHO CAN
CLEARLY TELL THEM SOME OF THIS IS NOT LEGAL AND THEN COME
BACK WITH PROPOSED SOLUTIONS WE CAN APPROVE AND DEBATE AT
THE NEXT MEETING.
10:37:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:37:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO EVERYTHING AND I
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION ON ALL SIDES.
AS I LISTEN TO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, I START
THINKING OF THE OTHER SIDE.
I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THE MAYOR OR ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THIS.
IN ALL MY YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE, DOES CRA HAVE HR BY

THEMSELVES?
10:37:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO.
10:37:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE'RE LOOKING AT OPENING UP SOMETHING
THAT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO OPEN UP.
I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT THE ATTORNEY IS LISTENING.
AND ALL THIS IS ABOUT HR.
ALL THE ITEMS THAT THE CITY DOES IN CONJUNCTION WORKING WITH
THE CRA AND HELPING THE CITY TURN AROUND AND BE SOMETHING
MUCH BETTER THAN IT WAS FOUR, FIVE, TEN YEARS AGO AND INTO
THE FUTURE, TO MAKE IT FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE A NICE PLACE, SO
FORTH AND SO ON.
THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THE CITY GIVES OR APPLIES TO
RECEIVING FROM THE CRA WITH THE CITY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL OF THEM ARE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE BETTER MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYTHING THAT THE CRA EMPLOYEES AND OTHERS BENEFIT FROM
THE CITY, AM I GOING TOO FAR HERE?
AM I WRONG?
SOMEBODY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THE CITY GIVES CERTAIN THINGS TO THE CRA, MAYBE THAT'S WHY
THIS IS WRITTEN THAT WAY.
I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.
YOU SPOKE TO THE ATTORNEY.
I HAVE NEVER CALLED THIS GENTLEMAN.
MAYBE HE SHOULD GIVE US AN OPINION BEFORE WE GO FORWARD WITH

THESE THINGS TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CITY DOES TO GIVE TO THE
CRA WITHOUT ANY CALLS.
10:39:08AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
10:39:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT SURE THIS IS CORRECT.
10:39:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE MOTION IS TO ASK HIM TO COME BACK NEXT
MONTH AND BRIEF US.
10:39:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOOK LIKE
WE'RE GOING IN REALLY, REALLY STRONG AND THEN ALL OF A
SUDDEN YOU SLIP ALL THE WAY DOWN.
I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS ANYONE, INCLUDING OURSELVES.
10:39:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK HAVING HIM COME BACK AND REPORT
BUT I SUSPECT WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAYS HAS GOT TO BE
PART OF THE DIRECTION OF THIS, THIS IS KIND OF A CAN OF
WORMS.
IT'S A WEIRD SITUATION, BUT YOU LOOK, THE CRA IS BASICALLY
CONTRACTING WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.
BY CONTRACTING, YOU ARE GETTING HR.
YOU'RE GETTING ALL THE EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS OF BEING AN
EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY.
THEY ARE OUR VENDOR FOR THESE PERSONNEL SERVICES, AT LEAST
THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WITH OUR AGREEMENT.
AS FAR AS ACCOUNTABILITY IN REPORTING, I THINK THAT PROBABLY
SHOULD BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY.
I AGREE THAT THESE POSITIONS SHOULD PROBABLY BE AT LEAST AS
FAR AS CHAIN OF COMMAND AND ACCOUNTABILITY NEED TO BE MORE

STRAIGHT LINED THROUGH THE DIRECTOR AND THUS TO US.
IT'S MAYBE A CAN OF WORMS WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN BUT LET THE
ATTORNEY DECIDE THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US NEXT MONTH.
10:40:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ALSO, I WANT TO SAY ULTIMATELY IT'S OUR
RESPONSIBILITY.
WE GET TO VOTE ON EVERYTHING AS A CRA BOARD THAT IS GOING TO
COME IN OUR DIRECTION, INCLUDING THESE POSITIONS.
THAT'S WHY WE TOOK OVER THE HIRING, WHICH OUR NEXT
CONVERSATION WILL BE EVEN THE CRA DIRECTOR ROLE, THE
SPECIFICS REGARDING THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE CAN'T GET AROUND THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA SERVICES
THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR US.
HR, EVERYTHING FALLS UNDER THEM.
THEY HANDLE PAYROLL, HEALTH CARE, THEY HANDLE ALL THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS OF EVERY SPECIFIC DETAIL,
BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY AND WHO THEY REPORT TO AND HOW IT'S
WRITTEN, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S
CLARITY THERE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS?
10:41:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PUT IT TO A MOTION --
10:41:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HE ALREADY HAS A MOTION.
10:41:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I CLARIFY?
I'M NOT ASKING TO REOPEN THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND
THE CRA.
ALL I'M ASKING RIGHT NOW IS FOR US TO LOOK AT THESE JOB

DESCRIPTIONS.
AS A COMMUNICATION PROFESSIONAL, IT'S COMMUNICATION
ENGAGEMENT IS THE POSITION.
USUALLY THAT KIND OF PERSON WOULDN'T DO FUND-RAISING, FOR
EXAMPLE.
THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO -- HR DEPARTMENT, YES, GIVING
SERVICES FOR FREE TO US BUT WE HAVE TO DIRECT THEM ON WHAT
WE WANT AND OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
WHY AREN'T WE HIRING A COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR?
CEDRIC IS INTERIM BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING CEDRIC, ERICA,
WHOMEVER, HAVING 15 STAFF, WHATEVER IT IS AND NONE OF THEM
REPORT TO YOU?
HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY MANAGE?
BECAUSE THEY ARE CITY EMPLOYEES, THE CITY ULTIMATELY HAS THE
RIGHT TO FIRE THEM, BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME REPORTING
STRUCTURE THAT WILL ALLOW COLLABORATION IN THE DEPARTMENT.
NOT AGAINST THE CITY BUT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS WORKING
TOGETHER.
10:42:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW IN ALL MY YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE, THAT
HAS NEVER HAPPENED BETWEEN THE CRA AND THE MAYOR.
MAYBE I'M WRONG.
I CAN ALMOST ASSURE YOU THAT WE NEED THIS ATTORNEY TO CLEAR
THE FACT BECAUSE THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN JUST A CONVERSATION
ONCE YOU START THIS.

THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
10:42:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
RESTATE YOUR MOTION FOR ME, PLEASE.
SOMEONE REDUCE THE NOISE.
10:43:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOTION TO ASK THE CITY HR DEPARTMENT TO STOP
ADVERTISING THE CRA COMMUNICATION POSITION AND THE CONTRACTS
POSITION AND TO GET BOARD -- AND MR. SHEPHARD'S FEEDBACK ON
CRITERIA AND RETURN ON MARCH 13 WITH REVISED JOB
DESCRIPTIONS AND ADS FOR CRA BOARD APPROVAL.
10:43:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND BY BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THE MOTION CARRIES.
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:43:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WERE YOU GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION?
10:43:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DISCUSS THE CRA DIRECTOR POSITION.
INTERIM DIRECTOR McCRAY ALSO HAS SOMETHING.
MR. McCRAY.
10:43:56AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
JUST A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WE HAD DISCUSSIONS
PREVIOUSLY PART OF THE GRANTS PROCESS RELATED TO THE
PREDEVELOPMENT GRANT PROGRAM.
WE HAVE NOW ADVERTISED THE RFQ FOR DESIGN ASSISTANT SERVICES
AND DEVELOPMENT CONSULTATION FOR THE CRA COMMERCIAL

DEVELOPMENT GRANTS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A CONE OF SILENCE.
BUT I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS RELATED TO THE RFQ SHOULD GO THROUGH
MR. JIM GREINER WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:44:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS SOMETHING BEFORE WE DISCUSS OUR CRA
DIRECTOR POSITION PROPOSED SELECTION PROCESS?
10:44:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH.
I CAN GO AFTER YOU.
10:44:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ALL RIGHT.
YOU ALL RECEIVED A MEMO.
CAN WE AT LEAST GET THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE DIRECTOR
POSITION POSTING EFFECTIVE TODAY?
10:44:52AM >> SO MOVED.
10:44:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:44:55AM >> AYE.
10:44:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AND MANISCALCO.
ANY OPPOSED?
THE NEXT ONE IS THE CRA BOARD MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY INTERVIEW
SELECTED CANDIDATES TO MEET THE MINIMUM POST REQUIREMENT AND
REPORT THEIR TOP THREE CANDIDATES TO THE OFFICE BY MARCH 6,
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT?
10:45:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M CURIOUS WHO IS GOING TO ORGANIZE THESE

MEETINGS?
WHO IS GOING TO ORGANIZE THE INTERVIEWS?
WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME?
10:45:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU HAVE A WINDOW TO DO IT INDIVIDUALLY
WITHIN YOUR OFFICE BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH 6.
RECEIVE THE APPLICATIONS.
10:45:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, BUT WHEN WE DID THIS FOR MS. KOPESKY'S
POSITION, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN'S OFFICE TOOK ON THAT
ROLE AND GAVE US CERTAIN WINDOWS, WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT
SO THEY COULD BE AVAILABLE AND THEN WE KIND OF SLID IN.
IT WAS MUCH EASIER TO DO IT.
THE REASONING IS BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE ARE TAKING THAT
APPLICANT, SEVEN DIFFERENT THINGS.
IF WE COULD CHOOSE A DAY AND EACH OF US GET TIME IF WE NEED
IT.
IT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR THE APPLICANTS.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
10:46:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH 6, WE CAN SELECT ONE
OR TWO DATES TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE APPLICANTS ARE
AVAILABLE AND SCHEDULE IT -- OUR AIDES CAN WORK TOGETHER
MAKE THAT DECISION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AVAILABLE.
10:46:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE AIDES TO ORGANIZE,
WORK TOGETHER.
IT WORKED VERY CLEARLY WITH MR. HEBERLEIN TO DO THAT.
10:46:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.

10:46:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME
WE LOOKED FOR AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NICOLE AND ALIS, I
DON'T REMEMBER WHO ELSE, THEY ACTUALLY SAT IN THE ROOM
DURING THE INTERVIEWS AND THEY WROTE MINUTES OR NOTES FROM
THE MEETINGS.
FOR WHATEVER HR PEOPLE OR LEGAL LISTENING, I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT WAS A SUGGESTION OR REQUIREMENT BY HR OR LEGAL BUT IT'S
A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE IT PROTECTS ALL OF US.
IF THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION OF HR, WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO TRY
TO FIND SOMEBODY TO SIT AS A WITNESS.
10:47:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE TOOK IT OVER.
IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:47:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AGAIN, HR ASPECTS OF THIS, I URGE IF THIS
IS AN INTERVIEW PROCESS, THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT YOU
CAN AND CANNOT ASK.
ALL KINDS OF LAWS AND RULES FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN
INVOLVED IN INTERVIEWS AND HIRING AND FIRING.
I WOULD URGE YOU TO CONSULT WITH HR TO HAVE THEM BRIEF YOU
ON WHAT AN APPROPRIATE INTERVIEW PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.
TYPES OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS YOU CAN EXPECT AND THE AREAS
YOU CANNOT ENTER INTO.
10:48:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
REMEMBER, WE JUST REVIEWED APPLICATIONS
THE LAST TIME.
YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO TALK TO THEM.

THE OPTION IS THERE FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO TALK.
IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT.
YOU CAN BASE IT ON THE QUALIFIED FIVE APPLICANTS WHO ALREADY
SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION AND TAKE YOUR TOP THREE
DECISIONS FROM THERE.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
10:48:27AM >> YES.
10:48:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DOES ANYONE PLAN ON INTERVIEWING OR THEY
JUST WANT TO GO WITH THE APPLICATION?
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
10:48:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO RESPOND TO WHAT BOARD MEMBER
CLENDENIN SAID, IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, I HIRE PEOPLE ALL THE
TIME.
I'M INTERVIEWING PEOPLE AND I TALK TO MY LAWYERS AND HR
PEOPLE.
CAN'T SAY I'M PERFECT AT IT BUT I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
10:48:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ME TOO.
YEAH, I'VE HIRED A LOT OF TEACHERS, I MEAN, SAT IN
INTERVIEWS.
ANYTHING ELSE?
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE'LL HAVE OUR AIDES.
FOLLOW THAT BACK UP WITH OUR AIDES, THOSE OF YOU INTERESTED

IN INTERVIEWING.
BUT WE AGREE TO COME BACK WITH OUR TOP APPLICANTS BY MARCH
6.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE -- OH, YES, I KEEP
FORGETTING ABOUT YOU.
I APOLOGIZE.
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
TRYING TO BREAK A RECORD HERE.
10:49:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO WORRIES.
I FORGOT TO MAKE A MOTION.
I APOLOGIZE.
I WAS APPROACHED BY SOME FOLKS IN EAST TAMPA -- LONG STORY
SHORT -- ON JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES.
WHAT I WANT TO DO IS A MOTION FOR FEASIBILITY, AND IT CAN BE
A WRITTEN REPORT FROM OUR COUNCIL, ON CRA FUNDS TO ASSIST
YOUTH WITH DISABILITIES IN JOB TRAINING AND/OR INTERNSHIP
PROGRAMS IN THE CRA.
AGAIN, IF WE GET A NEGATIVE REPORT ON THAT, THEN I'LL LOOK
AT SOMETHING ANOTHER WAY THAT WILL BE NEXT MONTH.
10:50:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
RETURNING MARCH 13.
10:50:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S DO APRIL.
10:50:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
APRIL CRA MEETING.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
DISCUSSION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.

10:50:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU ALL SEE THAT WE'VE BEEN SHIFTING FROM
PROGRAMS OF GRANTS, AND THAT'S TO TRY TO KEEP THE OVERHEAD
AND STAFF DOWN.
JUST A RECOMMENDATION, I WONDER INSTEAD OF -- THE MOTION
KIND OF IMPLIES THAT THE CITY OR CRA WOULD IMPLEMENT IT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT NONPROFITS THAT DO WHAT YOU SAY AND
YOU'RE PROBABLY THINKING OF SOME.
MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS GET A CRA STAFF PERSON TO COME
BACK WITH A LIST OF NONPROFITS IN EAST TAMPA THAT PROVIDE
THESE SERVICES AND TO TELL US WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE FOR
THE PURPOSES OF DEFINING A POSSIBLE GRANT AND THEN IF WE
APPROVE, AT THAT POINT WE COULD APPROVE GRANT WITH CERTAIN
SPECIFICATION.
10:51:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I WAS GOING TO RESPOND.
10:51:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:51:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY ONLY THING, I'M JUST NOT SURE WE HAVE THE
ABILITY TO USE FUNDS, CRA FUNDS TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE THAT IS THE WHOLE REASON WE HAD TO MOVE THE SUMMER
YOUTH PROGRAM OUT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE CRA
GOALS.
10:51:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S WHY I TALKED ABOUT THE BACKUP.
THIS IS SOMETHING TALKED ABOUT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT I
WOULD FIRST TRY TO SEE IF SOMETHING COULD BE DONE HERE.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT GRANTS.

AGAIN, WE'LL GET A REPORT BACK ON IT.
IF I WAS A BETTING MAN, I WOULD BET A CERTAIN WAY ON WHAT IT
WOULD SAY.
YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
10:51:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HE COULD PROBABLY GIVE US AN ANSWER NOW
WHICH PROBABLY WOULD BE NO.
BUT THE ATTORNEY, HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM
YESTERDAY.
I THINK IF YOU TALK TO HIM ABOUT OTHER CASE STUDIES, THERE
MAY BE OTHER CITIES THAT MAYBE PACKAGE THIS WITH SOMETHING
ELSE THAT WOULD MAKE IT ALLOWABLE.
10:52:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, I APPRECIATE THAT.
SINCE I MADE THE MOTION, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I THINK YOU
WERE THE LAST CRA PERSON, BECAUSE I'M VICE-CHAIR, DO YOU
WANT TO CALL THE MOTION?
10:52:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA AND SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
10:52:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
THAT'S TO COME BACK IN APRIL.
JUSTIN WILLITS WITH HART IS HERE.
THINGS GOING ON.

THIS IS GOING TO BE MY MOTION, GUYS.
LONG STORY SHORT, YOU ALL KNOW WITH THE STREETCAR FARE-FREE
ISSUE, WE BROUGHT IT UP IN THE HART BOARD MEETING.
I WAS TASKED WITH MEETING WITH THE CASTOR ADMINISTRATION TO
TALK ABOUT A POTENTIAL COMPROMISE.
WE HAVE A POTENTIAL COMPROMISE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ASKED TO VOTE ON IT TODAY BECAUSE, OF
COURSE, PEOPLE WILL HAVE QUESTIONS ON IT AND SO FORTH.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ASKED FOR ALLOCATING TODAY.
THE POTENTIAL COMPROMISE IS THAT CRA, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT
THIS NEXT MONTH IF THIS MOTION PASSES, THAT CRA HAD
ALLOCATED FUNDS TO HELP OUT WITH BUS STOPS.
I HAD ACTUALLY MOTIONED FOR THAT.
BECAUSE OF HART'S, THE NUMBER OF BUS STOPS THAT HART IS
LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT FOR
ANOTHER YEAR.
THEREFORE, THOSE FUNDS FOR THE NEXT YEAR COULD BE USED FOR
THE STREETCAR, RIGHT, FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
AND MR. WILLETS, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING, JUSTIN, TO
THAT AT ALL, IF I MAY.
10:53:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO.
WE CAN DISCUSS IT WITHOUT MR. WILLETS.
THIS IS OUR DECISION.
10:54:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

IF I MAY JUST TO CLARIFY, MY MOTION THEN WOULD BE BASED UPON
THIS, MOTION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION NEXT MONTH ON CRA FUNDING
THE FARE-FREE STREETCAR.
THERE IS A PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE COME TO WITH THE CASTOR
ADMINISTRATION.
WE CAN DISCUSS THAT PROPOSAL AND THIS WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE
RETROACTIVE FUNDING AS WELL, NOT A TON OF MONEY, BUT THAT'S
WHERE WE ARE AT.
THAT WOULD BE MY PROPOSAL FOR NEXT MONTH.
10:54:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
[MICROPHONE NOT ON] THANK YOU FOR DOING
THAT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA FOR DISCUSSION.
10:54:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHEN I HEAR THINGS LIKE NOT GOING TO BE A
TON OF MONEY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
USE THOSE DOLLARS THIS YEAR, HOW YOU SUPPLEMENT FUTURE
DOLLARS IN THE FUTURE?
10:55:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT AMOUNT.
MR. WILLETS PROBABLY DOES.
AGAIN, MY MOTION IS FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.
IT IS NOT FOR ANY SPECIFIC PROPOSAL ON IT.
IT'S JUST FOR US TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION INCLUDING ON THAT
PROPOSAL.
WE'RE NOT PASSING ANYTHING.

10:55:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:55:26AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE THING YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO IS ADD MR.
WILLETS TO YOUR MOTION SO HE CAN COME BACK.
THE OTHER THING IS YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER, I'M AGAINST THE
CITY FUNDING HART BECAUSE HART WAS MOVED OUT OF THE CITY
DURING THE MARTINEZ ADMINISTRATION AND THE TAXING AUTHORITY
OF IT WENT.
HOWEVER, THE STREETCAR IN ITS NEWEST FORM WAS CREATED DURING
THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION, WHICH WAS AFTER THE MARTINEZ MOVE.
I DON'T OBJECT TO HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
I HOPE WE CAN BE CREATIVE ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT IT.
BUT I THINK THE STREETCAR IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER
SERVICES THAT HART PROVIDES BECAUSE IT WAS CREATED AFTER
HART WAS MOVED OUT.
10:56:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY WHO WAS
IT?
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:56:20AM >> AYE.
10:56:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I APOLOGIZE.
THAT INCLUDES MR. WILLETS COMING.
MY APOLOGIES.
10:56:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
INCLUDING COMMENTS FROM HART, MR. WILLETS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
I GAVE YOU YOUR OPPORTUNITY, INTERIM DIRECTOR.
10:56:40AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
INTERIM CRA DIRECTOR.
JUST SO WE HAVE DIRECTION AS STAFF, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE,
ARE WE LOOKING AT ONE SPECIFIC CRA DISTRICT OR IS THIS ALL
OF THE CRAs THAT THE STREETCAR MAY GO THROUGH?
10:56:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
306 JACKSON TO YOU GUYS BEFORE AND THAT'S WHY
I WAS OUTSIDE FOR A LITTLE BIT.
I WILL DISCLOSE THAT IT WOULD PROSPECTIVELY BE WHERE THE
STREETCAR RUNS AND THAT WOULD BE YBOR, DOWNTOWN, CHANNELSIDE
PERSPECTIVELY.
AGAIN, THEY WILL BRIEF YOU ON THIS.
10:57:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:57:19AM >> AYE.
10:57:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION CARRIES.
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