TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:04:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.
AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR TODAY'S
INVOCATION.
9:04:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU, SIR.
TODAY, WE HAVE CHAPLAIN TIM SPRINGER WHO IS FROM MARION,
ILLINOIS.
HE GRADUATED WITH A BACHELOR OF ARTS IN BIBLE -- WITH
BIBLICAL LANGUAGES FROM SOUTHWEST BAPTIST UNIVERSITY IN
MISSOURI.
HE WENT ON TO RECEIVE HIS MASTERS OF DIVINITY FROM
SOUTHWESTERN BAPTIST THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IN FORT WORTH,
TEXAS.
HE IS CURRENTLY TAKING SEMINARS TOWARD A DOCTORATE IN
MINISTRY FROM GATEWAY SEMINARY, ONTARIO, CALIFORNIA.
HE HAS BEEN MARRIED TO HIS WIFE KATHY FOR 26 YEARS.
THEY ARE THANKFUL TO HAVE FOUR CHILDREN, THREE SONS AND ONE

DAUGHTER.
HE WOULDN'T LET ME READ THE REST OF THIS VERY LONG BIO, BUT
HE IS WITH SOCOM AT MacDILL.
WE THANK YOU FOR HIS SERVICE, ESPECIALLY TO ALL THE OTHER
SERVICE PEOPLE WHO ARE HELPING OUR COUNTRY EVERY DAY.
9:05:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND
REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
9:05:22AM >> LET US PRAY.
MAJESTIC LORD, I HUMBLY INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE THIS DAY IN
PREPARATION FOR TAMPA'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
I THANK YOU FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO
DUTIFULLY CARRY OUT THEIR GOD-GIVEN TASK TO SERVE AND TO
MINISTER TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN WHICH SPANS BAY TO
BAY.
AS A SAILOR IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY, I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR
THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO WELCOME AND RECEIVE US, THE U.S.
MILITARY, FROM OUR VARIOUS HOMES OF RECORD.
THESE DEVOTED LABORERS SHELTER US FROM HURRICANES.
THEY EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN, AND THEY MAINTAIN THE VAST ARRAY
OF HIGHWAYS, SIDE STREETS, AND BYWAYS BY WHICH WE TRAVERSE
ON A DAILY BASIS.
TO THEM, WE RARELY OFFER ENOUGH THANKS.
I TURN NOW TO THE HOLY SCRIPTURES THAT REMIND EACH OF US
THAT WE ARE TO BE A CITY SET ON A HILL WHICH CANNOT BE

HIDDEN.
MAY WE SET THIS LIGHT UPON A LAMP STAND TO PROVIDE LIGHT TO
ALL WHO ARE IN THIS HOUSE.
AND MAY WE LET OUR LIGHT SHINE BEFORE MEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT
THEY MAY SEE OUR GOOD WORKS AND GLORIFY THE FATHER WHO IS IN
HEAVEN.
MAY YOU EVER FAITHFULLY STRENGTHEN AND SUSTAIN THESE
CITIZENS' SERVANTS AS THEY LABOR FOR THE TOWNSPEOPLE OF
TAMPA.
IT IS IN YOUR MOST HOLY NAME I PRAY, AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:06:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
CAN I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:06:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:06:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:07:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:07:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
9:07:02AM >> VIERA?
MIRANDA?
9:07:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:07:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:07:05AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:07:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF BIRTHDAYS TODAY.
SO THIS IS NOT THE USUAL COURSE.

I WANT TO WISH A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO CHARLENE FROM THE CLERK'S
OFFICE.
THAT WAS MONDAY.
MARTIN SHELBY, OUR ATTORNEY, YESTERDAY.
RON WIGGINTON, HIS BIRTHDAY IS TODAY.
AND SULING'S HUSBAND MIKE'S BIRTHDAY.
A LOT OF BIRTHDAYS TODAY.
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE RULES
AND PROCEDURES OF PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:07:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I WOULD LIKE TO VERY BRIEFLY REVIEW THE RULES OF DECORUM AND
THE PROCESS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE
CEREMONIAL TODAY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD WHICH ARE
AVAILABLE OUTSIDE AND PLACE IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE DOOR
IN THE LOBBY.
ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT AND EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED
BY NAME BY THE CHAIR TO APPROACH AND SPEAK.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL
NOT BE CALLED.

NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA
THAT IS SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS NOTED AS A PUBLIC
HEARING ON THE AGENDA, USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET INSTEAD AT THE
PODIUM OUTSIDE, AND IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE THE
CITY STAFF.
A REMINDER THAT SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE TO
REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR
THREATENING REMARKS OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS
OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE CHAIR AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE
CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF
TODAY'S MEETING.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT
TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.

THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION TO THE
CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
9:09:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR
SESSION OF FEBRUARY 6, 2025, AND THE EVENING SESSION OF
FEBRUARY 13, 2025.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
LET'S GO THROUGH APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER 3, THERE IS A MEMO TO RESCHEDULE THIS TO APRIL
17 UNDER CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND PRESENTATIONS.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
9:10:00AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR, COULD I SAY SOMETHING QUICK ABOUT
NUMBER 4?
9:10:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT, LET ME DO THAT AND I'LL GO TO YOU
REAL QUICK.
LET ME FINISH.
ITEM NUMBER 15, THERE IS A MEMO TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE

AGENDA.
IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK AT A FUTURE DATE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 50, A MEMO WAS RECEIVED REGARDING A CONTINUANCE
TO MARCH 6, 2025.
THAT'S JUST TO SCHEDULE THE HEARING.
THE MEMO SAID THAT THEY NEEDED MORE TIME BECAUSE THIS IS
FROM THE ADMINISTRATION OR THE STAFF --
9:10:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE TO RESCHEDULE THE HEARING FOR APRIL
3 --
9:10:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, NO, NOT RESCHEDULE THE HEARING.
BUT TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO MARCH 6, AND THEN WE'LL SCHEDULE
IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH A MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM NUMBER 72, THERE IS A MEMO TO CONTINUE 72 TO JUNE
5th.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.

WE HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON TO REMOVE ITEM
73.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:11:14AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MADE A MOTION, THIS IS IN REGARD TO THE
YELLOW BRICK ROAD AREA.
I MADE A MOTION TO HAVE ON THE AGENDA TO PROHIBIT PARKING
METERS IN THAT AREA.
SINCE THEN, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK WORKED WITH STAFF TO COME
UP WITH A RESIDENTIAL EXCEPTION, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 71.
SO 71 SUPERSEDES 73.
SO I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE -- [INAUDIBLE]
9:11:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE PER CHIEF BENNETT.
I WILL GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS ONE BY ONE.
ITEM NUMBER 61, DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR 61?
ANYBODY?
NO FOR 61.
ITEM 62, DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT?
THERE WAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS TRANSMITTED.
DO WE NEED STAFF?
9:12:08AM >> NO.

9:12:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
63, WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE.
THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
DO WE NEED STAFF HERE PRESENT FOR 63?
9:12:20AM >> I'M GOOD WITH IT.
9:12:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM 64.
DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT?
OKAY.
ITEM 65.
9:12:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:12:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES ON 65.
9:12:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE EVEN
GOING TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR IT AT
THE CRA, AND THEY PULLED IT.
I'M UNCOMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT PERSONALLY UNTIL CRA DOES.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT.
9:12:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 65 IS A YES FOR SOMEONE PRESENT.
WE HAVE AN IN-PERSON REPORT FOR 66 FROM JEAN DUNCAN, SO THAT
IS A YES.
67, THERE IS A PowerPoint.
SO THAT IS A YES.
68 THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR THAT?
THIS WAS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.

9:13:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE TO MAKE ONE PHONE CALL.
THIS WILL BE AFTER LUNCH.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE SO, BUT I WANT TO --
9:13:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL HOLD 68 UNTIL AFTER LUNCH.
ITEM 69, THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
DO WE NEED ANYBODY PRESENT?
WE HAVE A YES ON 69.
ITEM NUMBER 70, THERE WILL BE A VERBAL UPDATE, SO THAT'S A
YES.
ITEM 71, YES.
72 AND 73 WERE TAKEN CARE OF.
ITEM 74, THERE WAS A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA TO
REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA AND INCLUDE IT IN THE FY '26
BUDGET, IS THAT CORRECT?
9:13:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET OFFICE SUGGEST AND
I AGREE WITH THAT.
ALL COMPREHENSIVE ALL AT ONCE.
9:13:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE 74 FROM
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE HAVE WRITTEN REPORTS -- SORRY, ITEM 76 -- WAIT, 75 WE'LL
RECEIVE AND FILE IT, BUT CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
FILE?

MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM 76 A REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 17.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEM 77, THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE SAID ITEM TO MAY 15,
2025.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM?
9:14:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I ASK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CAN YOU GIVE
ME SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS?
I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED ON THIS ONE.
9:14:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT IT IS, I THINK THERE IS AN ORDINANCE
IN PLACE THAT PROHIBITS THINGS BEING PARKED IN FRONT OF YOUR
HOUSE, LIKE A BIG WORK TRUCK.
IN SOME CASES COMPLAINTS RECEIVED IN MY OFFICE THAT THEY ARE
PARKING, NOT ONLY THE HOUSE AirBnB, BUT THEN THEY ARE
COMING IN A MOTOR HOME AND PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO ITEMS.
9:14:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
9:14:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, SIR.

9:14:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO
CONTINUE -- WAIT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THAT'S TO CONTINUE THE ITEM.
MR. SHELBY.
9:15:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, TO REQUEST THAT
AFTER THE END OF THE CONSENT DOCKET, WITHOUT STAFF NEEDING
TO BE PRESENT YOU CAN MOVE 61, 62, SUBSTITUTE FOR 63 AND 64
AT THAT TIME.
9:15:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SOUNDS GOOD.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER --
9:15:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I WANTED TO PULL A FULL ITEMS.
I'M SORRY.
I HAVE NOT BEEN WELL THIS WEEK, SO I AM A LITTLE BEHIND.
I WANT TO PULL 18 AND 19 FOR A CONVERSATION AND SEPARATE
VOTE.
I WANT TO PULL 36 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE AND 49 FOR A
CONVERSATION AND A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:15:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
36 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:15:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND 49.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY NEED STAFF.
BUT I BELIEVE WE AS A COUNCIL REALLY NEED TO START TALKING
ABOUT SOME OF THIS MONEY.

9:15:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WANT TO PULL 49.
9:15:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:15:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ON THOSE ITEMS,
WHICH DO YOU HAVE STAFF PRESENT --
9:16:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
9:16:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PULL IT FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:16:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
18 AND 19 BECAUSE THEY GO TOGETHER.
36 AND 49.
9:16:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE THOSE ARE PULLED FOR OUR OWN DISCUSSION, NO STAFF
PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 4 AND
THEN WE'LL ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
9:16:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
BEFORE ITEM 4, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK BROUGHT
UP 65 ABOUT WHETHER IT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA OR NOT.
SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT THAT?
I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD IT TODAY, BUT INSTEAD OF MAKING
PEOPLE WAIT ALL DAY, ARE WE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER TO
KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA?
9:16:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO HAVE STAFF
PRESENT FOR THAT.
9:16:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT WOULD NEED MORRIS.

9:16:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE GET A RESPONSE.
ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:16:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ITEM NUMBER 4, MISINFORMATION SENT AROUND
AND INFORMATION SAYING TO PEOPLE PLEASE SHOW UP AND SUPPORT
THE JACKSON HOUSE TODAY.
WHILE WE WELCOME SUPPORT ON THE JACKSON HOUSE, JUST FOR
EVERYBODY WATCHING, THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION ORDERED THE
JACKSON HOUSE DESTROYED IN 2013.
CITY COUNCIL WAY BEFORE I GOT ON SAVED THE JACKSON HOUSE
UNANIMOUSLY.
THAT'S WHY IT EXISTS TODAY.
THE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT THE LAST FEW YEARS TO
TRY TO SAVE IT.
AND THIS CITY COUNCIL AS THE CRA BOARD PUT IN A MILLION
DOLLARS A FEW YEARS AGO, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING
WE CAN TO SAVE IT.
THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS TO HAVE THE JACKSON
HOUSE FOUNDATION PRESENT THEIR PLAN FOR RENOVATION.
SO IT'S NOT -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE
JACKSON HOUSE TODAY.
JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, I MET WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE
SEVERAL TIMES THE LAST FEW DAYS.
THE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS JUST FOR THEM TO PRESENT THEIR PLAN.
AS SOON AS THE CITY SAYS GO, THEN THEIR PLAN WILL START,
WHICH THEY'LL GO THROUGH IN A LITTLE WHILE.

WE'RE ALL ON BOARD FOR SAVING THE JACKSON HOUSE.
9:17:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SOUNDS GOOD.
AND THEY ARE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT.
WE'LL HEAR FROM THEM SHORTLY.
9:18:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MADE A MOTION TO PULL IT.
9:18:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, HE JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON
IT.
THAT'S ALL.
THEY ARE GOING TO PRESENT.
NOTHING IS PULLED.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM?
MOTION FROM CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
FIRST ITEM IS COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR THE ATU EMPLOYEE
OF THE MONTH.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:18:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THIS IS LIKE ONE OF MY FAVORITE DAYS OF THE MONTH BECAUSE I
GET TO STAND HERE WITH ONE OF MY FAVORITE CITY OF TAMPA
PERSONS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ATU.
HE REPRESENTS SO MANY OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES THAT KEEP THE
CITY OF TAMPA WORKING.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE LISTENING, IF THE SERVICES

YOU'RE BEING PROVIDED, YOU'RE HAPPY, BLAME HIM.
IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY, BLAME GUIDO.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE THE PRESIDENT OF THE ATU, MR. SIMON.
AND HE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE THE RECIPIENT OF THE ATU
EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
MR. SIMON.
9:19:24AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
AND GOOD MORNING CITY OF TAMPA.
I'M STEVE SIMON, PRESIDENT OF THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION
LOCAL 1464 AND WE KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE
ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MR. ALEXANDER WARREN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
ALEX WARREN WAS NOMINATED FOR ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH
RECOGNITION AND AWARD BECAUSE OF HIS LEADERSHIP AND
DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT, AND THE COMMUNITY.
ALEX HAS BEEN A MAINSTAY OVER THE YEARS TO THE TEAMS LEADING
CHANGE AT THE GWENDOLYN MILLER COMMUNITY CENTER AND EXPANDED
HIS REACH TO 129 COLLEAGUES WITH PROGRAM PLANNING AND
ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE NORTH SERVICE AREA.
HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF OUT-OF-SCHOOL TIME PLANNING, AND THE
STAY AND PLAY COMMITTEE.

ALEX STARTED SHARING HIS LOVE FOR CHESS MORE THAN A DECADE
AGO AND REMAINS STEADFAST IN HIS VISION TO BRING THIS GAME
OF STRATEGY TO THE KIDS AT CENTERS AND PLAYGROUNDS.
THE PLAN STARTED OUT SMALL WITH ABOUT THREE KIDS IN THE
AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM AT GWENDOLYN MILLER.
AND HAS NOW EXPANDED TO MORE THAN A DOZEN CENTERS THROUGHOUT
THE CITY OF TAMPA, REACHING MORE THAN 200 KIDS BETWEEN THE
AGES OF 7 AND 17.
THERE ARE QUITE A FEW STAFF MEMBERS WHO HAVE EMBRACED THE
GAME AS WELL.
BECAUSE OF THE POPULARITY OF THE PROGRAM, ALEX AND SOME OF
HIS COLLEAGUES HAVE ORGANIZED TWO CHESS TOURNAMENTS PER YEAR
FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS WITH AN EVER-GROWING AUDIENCE.
ALEX IS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE ANTIVIOLENCE AND ANTI-BULLYING
SANDY HOOK PROMISE AND SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING CLUB,
NOT ONLY AT HIS PARK BUT AT OTHER PARKS AND SEVERAL
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS.
HE IS AN AMBASSADOR AND IS RECOGNIZED BY THE SANDY HOOK
PROMISES ORGANIZATION FOR HIS INVOLVEMENT IN PREPARING KIDS
FOR CHALLENGING SITUATIONS AT SCHOOL AND BEYOND.
ON ONE OCCASION, ALEX FOUND HIMSELF IN MORE THAN 30
AFTER-SCHOOL PARTICIPANTS IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSIVE PREPARATION HE HAD TAKEN THE KIDS
THROUGH, EVERYONE REMAINED CALM AND CONFIDENT.
ALEX TAKES HIS JOB VERY SERIOUS AND IT SHOWS.

THIS PAST SUMMER, ALEX STEPPED UP AS THE NEXT PERSON IN
CHARGE OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND PLAYGROUND, AND HE
EXCELLED IN PLANNING AND LEADERSHIP.
AS A WRITER, ALEX HAS SHARED HIS PASSION FOR POETRY BY
CREATING WRITING CLASSES FOR THE KIDS AT THE CENTER AND HAS
WRITTEN AND PERFORMED SOME OF HIS OWN WORKS AT EVENTS IN THE
COMMUNITY.
ALEX CONTINUES TO STRIVE FOR A GREATER LEVEL OF PROFESSIONAL
DEVELOPMENT AND ATTENDS TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES AS OFTEN AS
HE IS ABLE TO.
BECAUSE OF HIS OVERALL INVOLVEMENT, ALEX RECEIVED AN AWARD
FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR VOLUNTEER WORK THAT HE DOES DURING
HIS OWN TIME AWAY FROM THE JOB.
DUE TO ALL OF THIS, WE APPRECIATE YOU AND EVERYTHING THAT
YOU DO TO HELP KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
SO ON BEHALF OF ATU LOCAL 1464, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY
CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING THE AWARD RECIPIENT AND PRESENT YOU
WITH THIS AWARD.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONE, I FEEL VERY INADEQUATE AFTER HEARING
ALL OF THAT.
IS CHESS LIKE CHECKERS?
I'M REALLY GOOD AT CHECKERS.
YOU ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, MUST BE A VERY POPULAR PERSON BECAUSE

WE HAVE OCEA WYNN AND TONY MULKEY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
9:23:15AM >>OCEA WYNN:
IT IS WITH PLEASURE THAT I STAND BEFORE YOU AND
SAY THAT I AM JUST OVEREXCITED TO HAVE ALEX AS PART OF OUR
TEAM.
WHEN I FIRST WAS APPOINTED TO THIS POSITION, ALEX HAPPENED
TO BE -- YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS.
YOU WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE I MET -- TO LEARN ABOUT
WHAT IT IS THAT WE DO IN OUR CENTERS.
I WAS REALLY ENTHRALLED WITH THE FACT THAT ALEX DEDICATES SO
MUCH TIME AND ATTENTION TO OUR KIDS AND BY EXPOSING THEM TO
CHESS AND TO POETRY, THAT JUST BLOWS ME AWAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, I ASKED HIM TO TEACH ME CHESS.
THAT HASN'T GONE TOO FAR JUST YET BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON
THAT.
9:24:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CAN HELP YOU WITH CHECKERS.
9:24:01AM >>OCEA WYNN:
I HAVE CHECKERS COVERED.
YOU CAN HELP ME WITH CHESS.
I'M GOOD.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BEING AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR PARKS AND
RECREATION FAMILY.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN OUR KIDS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M SO PLEASED TO BE HERE FOR THIS WELL-DESERVED
RECOGNITION.
ALEX IS AN EXAMPLE OF GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND AND BEING VERY
PROACTIVE IN TRYING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE WITH THE KIDS IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
I'LL KEEP IT SHORT AND JUST SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
WELL DESERVED.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY AND TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL, REPRESENTED BY CHAIRMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO AND
THE OTHER SIX OF US, I PRESENT TO YOU ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE
MONTH ALEX WARREN, A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS?
WE CAN DO THIS FIRST.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME
THINGS.
9:25:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS AWARD.
WELL DESERVED.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY.
ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP'S AND STEPP'S TOWING, PLEASE ENJOY

DINNER OUT ON US.
GIFT CARD.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:25:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CONGRATULATIONS.
MY NAME IS LORI OSBORNE.
I AM WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, MY MOM WAS PART OF MY HOMETOWN'S PARKS
AND REC DEPARTMENT, SO I GREW UP IN THESE TYPES OF
COMMUNITIES, RECREATION DEPARTMENTS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU INSPIRE OUR
KIDS.
I REALLY DO.
ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE
YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ATTEND ONE OF OUR PERFORMANCES, AND
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, MR. SIMON.
MR. WARREN.
I'M GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INVESTING SO MUCH TIME IN THE
CHILDREN OF TAMPA.

THANK YOU FOR TEACHING THEM AN INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE LIKE
CHESS.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF AT THE COLUMBIA, ULELE, ANYWHERE YOU
WOULD LIKE TO ENJOY, HAVE A NIGHT OFF AND HAVE SOME SANGRIA.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JILL WITECKI WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
HI, MR. WARREN.
I STARTED PLAYING CHESS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS WELL.
I KNOW THE LIFE SKILLS THAT THAT GAME TEACHES.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
IS THAT YOUR WIFE TAKING PICTURES.
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, THIS IS AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR
YOU AND YOUR WIFE TO COME JOIN US FOR ALL OF THE THOUSAND
THINGS WE DO OVER THERE EVERY YEAR.
WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.
9:27:18AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:27:24AM >> I'M LAURA TAYLOR FROM OXFORD COMMONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ONE OF OUR
RESTAURANTS.
OXFORD EXCHANGE, PREDALINA.
THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:27:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
GOOD MORNING, ALEX.
I'M BRIAN FORD.
I'M WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
WE HAVE A LITTLE TRADITION AT ONE BUC.
ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
I'LL GIVE YOU MY CARD BECAUSE I HAVE A LITTLE STORY ABOUT
YOUR GAME BALL.
IT'S NOT HERE.
THIS IS A GENERIC ONE.
BUT THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS YOU NEED TO EXCHANGE THIS WITH ME
AND BRING YOUR FAMILY AND SUPPORT STAFF BECAUSE YOU DON'T DO
IT ALONE.
ONE BUC FOR A LITTLE TOUR AND THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR GAME
BALL WITH YOUR NAME ON IT.
SECONDARY, I LOVE YOUR STORY AND WHAT YOU DO FOR THE KIDS
AND THE CHESS PROGRAM.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE WINNER AN INDIVIDUAL GAME BALL.
LET'S HAVE THAT DIALOGUE.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
COMMUNITY, CAN'T HAVE A FUMBLE.
YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK AND I'LL GIVE YOU YOUR GAME

BALL.
NO FUMBLES.
9:28:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEVE MICHELINI.
I BROUGHT MY GRANDSON HERE TO HELP ME OUT.
HE IS A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT, SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
HE HAD SOME EXCITING THINGS HAPPEN OVER THERE.
HE'S GOING TO HELP ME WITH THIS.
MEAT MARKET GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR YOU.
YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
DON'T LOSE THESE LETTERS.
YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, PROVIDING WITH YOU A GIFT
CERTIFICATE.
GIFT CERTIFICATE AND A LETTER.
ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND, HUNDRED
DOLLAR GIFT CERTIFICATE.
ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
AND THEN FOR CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR
OVER THERE, ENJOY YOURSELF BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER.
THEIR RESTAURANT IS ON SOUTH HOWARD.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BELLABRAVA GIFT CERTIFICATES OVER THERE.
I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NICHOLAS WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN
PREVENTING THE DROWNING OF THREE ADULTS AT SULPHUR SPRINGS
POOL.
[ APPLAUSE ]

9:30:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALEX, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOME WORDS?
OR GO RIGHT TO THE RESTAURANTS AND START EATING?
9:30:31AM >> THAT WILL HAPPEN.
I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR PRESENTING THIS AWARD
AS WELL.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK -- ALSO LIKE TO SAY THERE'S NO
ME.
THERE'S ALWAYS A WE IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS.
I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE LINE BECAUSE I'LL MISS NAMES AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
AGAIN, I'M VERY GRATEFUL.
A LOT OF GRATITUDE IN MY HEART AND THANK YOU AGAIN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:31:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ALL THE THINGS YOU SAID AND ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE DONE, ONE
REALLY CAUGHT MY EAR.
THAT IS THE ONE ABOUT CONVERSATION.
TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO SOMEONE.
AND I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT THERE SOLVES A LOT
OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY IN SOCIETY BECAUSE PEOPLE
HAVE AN ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE TO SOME DEGREE.
A LOT OF US DO.
INCLUDING MYSELF.
PARKS AND RECREATION, I REMEMBER THE TWO POSTERS I HAD.

ONE FOR THE BOYS AND ONE FOR THE GIRLS, MS. MEXICO.
THEY TAUGHT US ABOUT CONVERSATION.
WASN'T ABOUT PLAYING THE GAME AND WINNING.
PLAYING THE GAME AND NOT LOSE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR PARKS AND REC.
CONGRATULATIONS AND CONTINUE DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:31:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST BRIEFLY, WHEN I SAW THE PEOPLE HERE, I
THOUGHT OF AN OLD SAYING FROM A GREAT GUY WHO LEFT US TOO
SOON.
HIS NAME WAS SENATOR PAUL WELLSTONE, AND HE SAID, WE ALL DO
BETTER WHEN WE ALL DO BETTER.
WHEN I SEE YOU, THAT'S WHAT I THINK OF.
GOD BLESS YOU.
9:32:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.
WE'RE REALLY SO LUCKY THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
FAMILY.
EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, YOU GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.
YOU MAKE OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE.
WHAT YOU DO WITH THE YOUTH, WHAT YOU DO WITH THE COMMUNITY,
YOU'RE A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT GIVING BACK.
AGAIN, THANK YOU.
THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN OF APPRECIATION.
WE WISH WE HAD A HUNDRED MORE PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU BECAUSE,

AGAIN, YOU'RE WHAT MAKES TAMPA A BETTER PLACE, A GREAT
PLACE.
THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:32:40AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
9:32:44AM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I FORGOT TO READ THE
LETTER.
CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING SELECTED AS THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE
MONTH, FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, STRONG WORK ETHIC AND FOR
GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN ALL ASPECTS OF YOUR POSITION AS
REC LEADER 2.
INSTRUMENTAL IN A WIDE RANGE OF YOUTH PROGRAMS AND YOUR
POSITIVE ATTITUDE MAKE YOU HIGHLY DESERVING OF THIS SPECIAL
RECOGNITION, AND YOU ARE WELL KNOWN FOR YOUR FOCUS ON THE
WELL-BEING OF OUR YOUTH AND THE EXTENSIVE VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS
FOR YOU TO PARTICIPATE OUTSIDE OF YOUR WORK WITH THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
YOU DEMONSTRATE A FIRM COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA,
PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND YOU SET A SHINING EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW.
IT IS EMPLOYEES LIKE YOU, ALEX, THAT MAKE ME PROUD TO SERVE
AS MAYOR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION, MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:45AM >> IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR ANNOUNCEMENT,
SO TO SPEAK, IN REGARDS TO US ACTUALLY QUALIFYING FOR

RECERTIFICATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO THE CITY FOR HELPING US
IN THIS ENDEAVOR.
MY EXECUTIVE BOARD, ALL OF THE MEMBERS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
REALLY SAVED US.
WE SAVED OURSELVES, SAVED OUR UNIONS, WE LIVE ANOTHER DAY TO
BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MOVE FORWARD
PROGRESSIVELY.
SO THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL JUST SAY, MR. SIMON, WHAT KIND OF
HOURS WERE YOU WORKING?
I SAW YOU 6 A.M. TO 6 P.M.
YOU WERE WORKING NONSTOP TO MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPEN.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR WHOLE TEAM
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DIDN'T STOP.
YOU DIDN'T STOP.
YOU WERE GOING AND GOING AND GOING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:34:35AM >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
ALSO TO PUT A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON IT.
WE REALIZED IN NOVEMBER WE LOST 600 MEMBERS.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO RETRIEVE 600 MEMBERS IN SIX WEEKS.
HARD JOB.
9:34:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:49AM >> THANK YOU.
9:34:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MS. WYNN, BEFORE YOU GO, HAPPY EARLY
BIRTHDAY.
I WAS GOING DOWN THE LIST.
I KNOW YOURS IS TOMORROW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT HERE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM WITH
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ARE UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 2.
9:36:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE
MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS HONOREE THAT WE HONORED THIS MORNING,
I HAVE ONE JUST AS IMPORTANT AND ONE THAT AT AGE 17 HAS DONE
MORE THAN MOST OF US HAVE DONE IN OUR WHOLE LIVES.
HONORED TO BE STANDING NEXT TO VALENTINA MICHELINI.
I'LL READ A FEW OF THE THINGS SHE'S DONE.
IT IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PROFOUND PLEASURE AND RECOGNITION
TO THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF VALENTINA MICHELINI WHO ACHIEVED
THE RANK OF DISTINGUISHED HONOR OF EAGLE SCOUT, IN THE
SCOUTS OF AMERICA.
PART OF HER ENDEAVOR WAS PERFORMED BY OASIS NEST WILDLIFE
SANCTUARY AND INVOLVED BUILDING AND MAINTAINING HABITAT FOR
INJURED ANIMALS, A LONG ARDUOUS, DIFFICULT ENDEAVOR.

IN ADDITION, SHE HOLDS THE PRESIDENTIAL GOLD SERVICE AWARD
FOR COMPETING AND WORKING HARD FOR 500 HOURS OF COMMUNITY
SERVICE.
AFTER THAT AWARD, VALENTINA WENT ON TO COMPETE IN THE
ADDITIONAL 1,200 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE IN THE MOST
VALUABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
SHE HELPED THOSE THAT REALLY NEED HELP.
SHE HAS CONTINUED THIS EFFORT FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
THAT RIGHT THERE IS UNBELIEVABLE.
IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT SHE'S MANAGED TO SPEND TWO WEEKS IN
A COUNTRY CALLED ETHIOPIA TEACHING AND WORKING WITH ORPHAN
CHILDREN.
SHE MAINTAINS A 4.0 GPA AT HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE,
AND IS LOOKING TOWARDS OBTAINING AN AA DEGREE THIS COMING
FALL.
SHE PLANS TO TRANSFER TO A FOUR-YEAR UNIVERSITY AND BECOME A
TEACHER.
ALL THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED --
COMPLETED AT AGE 17.
NOT 77, BUT 17.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WISHES VALENTINA EVERY POSITIVE SUCCESS
AND GOOD FORTUNE IN FUTURE ENDEAVORS PRESENTED THIS 20th
DAY OF FEBRUARY 2025.
WITHOUT YOU, WE MAY NOT BE THAT GREAT COMMUNITY.
[ APPLAUSE ]

9:38:42AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION
IS THAT VALENTINA WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST WOMEN TO RECEIVE
AN EAGLE SCOUT AWARD ALONG WITH HER BROTHER WHO HAS ALREADY
RECEIVED THE EAGLE SCOUT AWARD.
SO WHEN THEY COMBINE THE SCOUTING INTO SCOUTS OF AMERICA,
SHE IS ONE OF THE FIRST.
THEY MAY BE ONE OF THE FIRST BROTHER AND SISTER EAGLE SCOUT
AWARDEES IN THE STATE.
I'LL TELL YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS.
NICHOLAS VOLUNTEERS ON SATURDAY WITH THE HOMELESS FIXING
BICYCLES AND WHEELCHAIRS.
VALENTINA SERVES ON THE HOMELESS AND FRANCESCA ORGANIZATION
THE HOMELESS FEEDING.
ABOUT 150 TO 200 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE FED EVERY WEEKEND.
THEY CONTINUE DOING THAT AS A SERVICE BACK TO THIS
COMMUNITY.
THEY HAVEN'T STOPPED.
SO THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
9:39:44AM >> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE TODAY AND GIVING ME THIS
COMMENDATION.
9:39:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

9:39:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DID WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE I'VE
WORKED WITH THIS FAMILY BEFORE.
STEVE SAID ABOUT THE BROTHER AND SISTER ISSUE.
THEY ARE WITH EAGLE SCOUT AND THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
YOU MENTIONED THE ISSUE WITH THE HOMELESS AND I'VE BEEN OUT
THERE AND I'VE SEEN NICHOLAS FIX BICYCLES AND ALL THESE
DIFFERENT THINGS.
HE'S A PERSON WHO HAS SUCH GREAT SKILLS AND TALENTS.
VALENTINA HAS A BIG HEART OUT THERE WORKING.
I REMEMBER WHEN FOLKS WERE FLOODED YOU ALL GOING OUT TO
TIMBERFALLS AT 113th ON WHAT I CALL A GOOD OL' BOY BOAT.
IT WAS NOTHING FANCY.
YOU ALL WENT OUT THERE AND YOU SAVED PEOPLE AND HOPE YOU GOT
YOUR TETANUS SHOT AFTERWARDS, BECAUSE I DID.
YOU ALL HAVE A REALLY BIG HEART.
I MEAN THAT.
YOU WERE TAUGHT TO SERVE AND TO GIVE BACK JUST BECAUSE IT IS
THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND TO HELP PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHAT BEING AN EAGLE SCOUT IS ALL ABOUT.
GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
9:40:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DIDN'T I WRITE YOU A NOTE?
I THOUGHT SO?
I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
THERE ARE PRESIDENTS WHO HAVE THE TITLE OF EAGLE SCOUT AND
THE GIRL POWER IS SHINING THROUGH.

I'VE ACTUALLY ATTENDED A CEREMONY BEFORE FOR ONE OF MY PAST
STUDENTS AT JEFFERSON.
AND IT IS REALLY AN HONOR TO STAND BEFORE YOU, SIT HERE
BEFORE YOU TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T GIVE
THOSE AWAY.
WELL DESERVED.
I WISH YOU ALL THE SUCCESS AND, OF COURSE, CONGRATULATIONS
TO YOUR MOTHER BECAUSE SHE HAS PUT YOU ON THE RIGHT PATH.
9:41:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:41:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO SAY ALSO CONGRATULATIONS.
I DROPPED OUT AT WEBELOS, ALL THREE DROPPED OUT OF WEBELOS.
I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS AFTER THAT POINT.
CONGRATS TO ALL OF YOU FOR GOING ALL THE WAY.
NOT ONLY PRESIDENTS, ASTRONAUTS AND OTHERS, ALL KINDS OF
FAMOUS PEOPLE, YOU COME FROM GREAT FAMILY STOCK, AND YOU ARE
ON THE RIGHT TRAJECTORY.
LET US KNOW IN THE FUTURE HOW WE CAN HELP YOU.
YOU PROBABLY DON'T NEED ANY HELP, BUT IF WE CAN HELP YOU IN
ANY WAY TO CONNECT WITH WHAT YOU WANT, THE RIGHT UNIVERSITY,
WE WANT TO RECRUIT YOU BACK, WE NEED YOU ALL TO BE LEADERS
BACK IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE.
LASTLY, I WAS LOOKING AT SPENDING TIME IN ETHIOPIA A FEW
YEARS AGO, WHAT AN AMAZING COUNTRY.
AND THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING TIME THERE.
SOME OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES EVER SEEN, SOME OF THE

WORST PLACES I'VE EVER SEEN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION THERE.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC LISTENING, THERE
ARE TWO ETHIOPIAN CHURCHES HERE.
I WENT TO ONE RECENTLY.
IT'S LIKE STEPPING INTO ETHIOPIA.
SO AMAZING AND FASCINATING.
9:42:29AM >> THANK YOU.
9:42:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.
WHEN PEOPLE SAY THE SKY IS THE LIMIT, NOW THAT YOU ARE AN
EAGLE SCOUT, REMEMBER, YOU HAD A PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT GERALD
FORD EAGLE SCOUT AND NEIL ARMSTRONG, THE FIRST MAN TO WALK
ON THE MOON, EAGLE SCOUT.
WHEN YOU SAY THE SKY IS THE LIMIT, YOU HAVE EAGLE SCOUTS
THAT HAVE WALKED ON THE MOON.
IT IS REALLY LIMITLESS, BUT IT'S NOT EASY WHAT YOU DO.
I REMEMBER WHEN NICHOLAS BECAME AN EAGLE SCOUT, IT'S A BIG
DEAL.
EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.
JUST THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HELP.
MOST RECENTLY WITH THE HURRICANES, WHEN YOU FEED THE
HOMELESS, WHEN YOU ARE FIXING THE BIKES, FIXING THE
WHEELCHAIRS, I'VE SEEN YOUR SETUP OVER THE YEARS.
YOU DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD OF YOU.

YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELVES BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF
WORK AND YOU VOLUNTEER.
YOU DO IT FROM THE GOODNESS OF YOUR HEART.
WE APPRECIATE YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:43:21AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
ALL RIGHTY.
WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT.
WITH ITEM NUMBER 4, WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME DR. CAROLYN
COLLINS AND HER TEAM.
THERE IS A PowerPoint PRESENTATION, WHICH WE'LL BRING UP
IN JUST A MOMENT HERE.
WE'LL GET EVERYTHING SET UP.
9:43:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHILE SHE'S STEPPING UP, I WANT TO THANK
DR. COLLINS AND HER TEAM.
WE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS THE LAST FEW DAYS AND THEY
WORKED REALLY HARD PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
I HOPE THE PUBLIC LOOKS FORWARD TO SEEING IT LIKE WE DO.
9:44:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
GOOD MORNING, DR. COLLINS.
HOW ARE YOU?
9:44:30AM >> GOOD MORNING TO EACH OF YOU.
THIS IS A BLESSED DAY BECAUSE I'M BEHIND SOME GREAT
INDIVIDUALS WHO RECEIVED SOME GREAT COMMENDATIONS.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THEM AND CONGRATULATE YOU IN EXPOSING

THIS TO OUR CITY SO WE SEE THE GREAT THINGS THAT PEOPLE IN
TAMPA ARE DOING.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
I'M GOING TO ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE.
MR. WILLIAMS AND ALSO DR. SCOTT.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PowerPoint PRESENTATION
REASONABLY FAST BECAUSE WE GAVE YOU A COPY OF IT.
AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT A LOT OF TIME IN WHAT YOU CAN READ,
BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ANSWERING SOME
QUESTIONS.
WE'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE
PRESENT TO YOU HERE BRIEFLY, BUT BEFORE I EVEN START THE
PRESENTATION AND I GO THROUGH THIS, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, WE
ARE MANDATED BY OUR GRANT THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE STATE TO
SUBMIT TO THEM A QUARTERLY REPORT.
TWICE A YEAR, WE HAVE TO UPDATE THAT REPORT TO MAINTAIN THAT
GRANT.
A COPY OF THAT I WILL BE SENDING TO THE BOARD SO THAT
WHETHER WE ARE HERE OR NOT, YOU WILL GET THE SAME UPDATE AND
YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ACTUALLY WHAT IS GOING ON.
IT ACTUALLY IS EXTREMELY THOROUGH.
I LITERALLY DO IT DAY BY DAY SO YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE READING
BECAUSE WE KEEP A SCHEDULE OF EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING TO MAKE
OURSELVES SOMEWHAT WORTHY OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THE
BOARD IS TRYING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.
WE ARE COMMITTED AS THE JACKSON HOUSE.
OUR FOCUS AND COMMITMENT IS TO PRESERVE TAMPA, FLORIDA,'S
NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK.
I HAVE TO DO THIS WHEN I MAKE A PRESENTATION.
I AM COMMITTED BECAUSE WILLIE ROBINSON, THE LAST LIVING AND
THE ONLY SON OF THE ROBINSONS, CAME TO ME AND ASKED ME TO DO
THIS, AND HE IS DOING WHAT HIS MOTHER ASKED HIM TO DO.
WE HAVE TO GIVE HOMAGE TO HER BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY IS THE
ONE THAT PURSUED EVERY ONE OF THESE HISTORICAL LANDMARKS AT
THE NATIONAL, AT THE STATE, AND AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, PRIOR TO
HER PASSING.
SHE WANTED THE STORY TO BE TOLD AND THE HOUSE TO BE
MAINTAINED.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
WE WANT TO PRESERVE THAT HISTORY.
IT'S NOT JUST THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA HISTORY.
IT'S NOT JUST THIS HOUSE THAT WAS OFF FROM THE SCRUBS.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PRESERVE A HISTORY THAT WILL TELL THE
STORY OF A FAMILY WHO CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY, NOT JUST TO
MUSIC, BUT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FOR TRAINING, FOR
EDUCATION, ET CETERA.
SO WE REALLY HAVE THE INTEREST IN PRESERVING THAT.
WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE'RE DOING IT AND WHERE OUR NEXT

STEPS ARE IS ALL WE WANT TO GIVE TO YOU.
NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS.
THIS IS A SHORT LIST OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE
COLLABORATED WITH IN ORDER TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE
DOING.
MANY OF THEM WE GO BACK TO ON A VERY FREQUENT BASIS.
SOME WE ONLY GO TO WHEN THEY ASK AND SOME ARE OUT OF PLACE
NOW.
MR. DEBBING WITH BRACKEN ENGINEERING THAT'S NO LONGER HERE.
WHETHER IT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA, THANKS TO THE CRA, TAMPA
BAY HISTORY CENTER, THE VINIK FAMILY, ACTUALLY THAT REALLY
GAVE US OUR FIRST BOOST WITH THE $50,000 THAT MR. RONNIE
WILLIAMS, CONTRACTOR, ACTUALLY DID THE INITIAL STABILIZATION
OF THAT HOUSE.
IF YOU SEE ALL THOSE WOODS, THAT IS THE STABILIZATION
MR. WILLIAMS DID THERE.
PLETHORA OF ENTITIES, BUSINESSES, INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS
THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH.
WE ACTUALLY TRY TO MEET ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WE MEET MONTHLY.
WE ALSO HAVE BIMONTHLY COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITHIN THAT.
YOU SEE THE GROUPS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT THEY HAVE
GONE OUT.
WE'VE WORKED WITH ARCHITECTS.
WE PAID A CONTRACT TO HAVE AN ARCHITECT.

SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU'LL SEE TODAY AND THEN YOU'LL
UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE THAT SECOND DOCUMENT AS WELL IN YOUR
PACKET.
WE HAVE MET WITH COUNCIL.
WE'VE MET WITH THE MAYOR.
WE'VE MET WITH ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM WITH THE MAYOR ON A
CONSISTENT AND CONSTANT BASIS, TRYING TO GET TO WHERE WE
NEED TO GET SO WE DON'T SEE THE HOUSE LOOKING LIKE IT LOOK
ANYMORE AND DEFINITELY WE DO.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR, WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE JACKSON
HOUSE FALL DOWN.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL PROCESS
IN THE REBUILD.
SO WE NEED HELP WITH EVERYBODY THAT'S WILLING TO HELP IT.
YES, WE DO MEET AND HAVE RECENTLY MET MORE FREQUENTLY WITH
THE ACCARDIS, TRYING TO COME UP WITH A FINAL DOCUMENT THAT
YOU'LL SEE IN HERE SHORTLY.
OUR GOAL IS WHAT YOU SEE DOWN THERE NOW, THIS HISTORICAL
LANDMARK, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN RESTORE IT.
WE DON'T WANT IT LOOKING LIKE THAT.
THE REASON I SAID YOU'LL SEE IT, IF YOU SEE ALL THE WOOD
CROSSINGS, THAT'S ALL IN THERE THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE
FRONT, THAT IS THE WORK THAT MR. RONNIE DID IN 2018, 2019.
SO WE GIVE HIM CREDIT BECAUSE IT WAS THAT, THAT HAS FOUGHT
BACK AGAINST DEBBY AND ALL OF THESE OTHER STORMS THAT HAVE

COME THROUGH IN ADDITION TO THE EXTRA HELP THEY HAD THAT WE
COULDN'T CONTROL THAT COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROGRESS AT THIS PHASE, WE ARE
FINALIZING TWO AGREEMENTS.
WE CALL ONE APPROPRIATION AGREEMENT.
WE WANT TO TAKE ALL THE MONEY AND PUT IT INTO ONE AREA THAT
WE HAVE.
WE HAVE MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, FROM CRA, FROM THE VINIKS,
FROM THE STATE, TWO POOLS OF MONEY FROM THE STATE.
THE POOL THAT WE GAINED AS A GRANT, A MILLION DOLLARS AND
THANKS TO SENATOR RUSSO, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THEY GOT FOR
THE MAYOR TO GO WITH THAT AND THOSE TWO POOLS OF MONEY.
WE WANT ALL THAT IN ONE PLACE BEING FINANCIALLY MANAGED THE
WAY IT IS NOW.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER MONEY COMING IN, THAT'S AN
AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR US TO BRING
EVERYBODY TOGETHER SO WE WILL MAINTAIN THOSE FUNDS AS WELL
AS THE MOU THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE GOING
TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FUNDS AND WHOEVER IS THE FISCAL
AGENT HAS GOT TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO US.
SO WE OKAY EVERYTHING BEFORE WE ARE SCHEDULED TO OKAY
EVERYTHING BEFORE IT IS SPENT.
AND THEN THE SECOND BIG THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET IS
THE EASEMENT.
YOU'LL SEE THAT SHORTLY, BUT THE EASEMENT IS A MANDATE.

THAT IS A MANDATE THAT WE GOT FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AND
EVERYONE SAYING FIRE SAFETY, FEMA.
YOU GOT TO HAVE IT.
THIS IS A WOODEN HOUSE.
WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE IT AS A WOODEN HOUSE CURRENTLY, AND
WE ALSO PUT SOME BIDS OUT THERE TO SEE WHO CAN DO IT.
EVERYBODY CAN'T WORK ON HISTORICAL HOMES.
EVERYBODY JUST CAN'T DO IT.
WE LOOKED.
WE FOUND INDIVIDUALS.
WE NEED TO GO BACK BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO HAVE CURRENT RFQs,
RFPs IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
CURRENTLY TODAY IN YOUR PACKET, YOU SEE WHAT WE LITERALLY
WANT TO PUT ON THE STREET, AS THEY SAY.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE BEFORE, BUT WE DECIDED WE
WOULD BRING IT HERE.
LET YOU SEE IT, AND HOPEFULLY BY TOMORROW, TONIGHT OR NO
LATER THAN MONDAY, THAT WILL BE ON THE STREET.
DOING THE 30 DAYS REQUIRED IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES WITH THE
CITY.
WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ARCHITECT,
YES, WE HAVE ONE.
HE WILL ALSO APPLY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO KNOWS
HOW TO DO THIS AND THE STATE TOLD US THEY WILL WORK VERY
WELL WITH US, BUT TO SPEND THEIR FUNDS, WE CAN'T USE

SOMETHING THAT WE GOT THREE YEARS AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO, A
YEAR AGO.
IT HAS TO BE CURRENT.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK OUT AND DO THE RFQ, PUT IT
OUT THERE, FIND OUT WHO CAN COME AND WHO IS WILLING TO DO
THE WORK.
WE ALREADY LOOKED AND FOUND THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE IN THE
COUNTRY THAT CAN DO THE WINDOWS IN THAT HOUSE.
IT IS MANDATED AND WE FOUND ONE COMPANY.
SO WE KNOW WE CAN PUT RFQ OUT FOR THAT OR ENGINEER CAN PUT
IT OUT OR CONTRACT MANAGER, ABOUT YOU THAT PERSON IS GOING
TO STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE ONE PERSON THAT WE'VE ALREADY DID
THE RESEARCH ON.
WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS AS I INDICATED TO YOU, AND YOU HAVE A
COPY OF IT IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS, ANY MODIFICATIONS, ANY
CHANGES, ADDITIONS, MORE THAN HAPPY TO ACCEPT THEM FOR YOU.
MENTIONING EARLY, THE EASEMENT, THE ORANGE SECTION THAT YOU
SEE AROUND THAT GREEN BUILDING AND I DIDN'T DO THOSE COLORS,
ORANGE AND GREEN, SHOULD ANYONE ASK, BUT THAT ORANGE
SECTION, THE GREEN IS THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THE ORANGE SECTION IS THE EASEMENT THAT WE NEED ON BOTH
SIDES OF THE JACKSON HOUSE ON THE EAST AND THE WEST FOR
PEOPLE, WHAT IS THE EAST AND THE WEST?
THE WAY I DO IT, EAST SIDE IS THE TRAIN STATION SIDE.
THE WEST SIDE IS THE COURT HOUSE SIDE.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, FOR FIRE,
ET CETERA.
CAN WE BUILD ON THAT WITHOUT THAT?
YES.
WE'VE DONE ENOUGH WORK.
WE'VE GONE TO THE FIRE.
WE'VE BEEN TO THE FIRE MARSHAL, CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE'VE BEEN
EVERYWHERE WE NEED TO GO.
WE CAN BUILD.
WHOEVER BUILD NEXT TO US, IF THEY COME DOWN TO GET A PERMIT,
THEY SHOULD BE TOLD YOU HAVE TO STAY SEVEN FEET FROM EACH
SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
WE CAN BUILD ON IT BUT SO MUCH BETTER IF WE HAD THAT
EASEMENT.
THIS IS PART OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE
WORKING WITH THE ACCARDIS AND THEY CALL IT ADDITIONAL LAND.
WE ALWAYS CALL IT EASEMENT BECAUSE IT COMES WITH THE
HISTORICAL LANGUAGE THAT'S REQUIRED BECAUSE WE ARE DOING A
HISTORICAL RENOVATION HERE.
ENGAGEMENT AND THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.
I KNOW WE'VE SAID THESE.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE REPETITIVE.
WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS.
WE WILL DO THAT VETTING PROCESS.
WE'RE HOPING BY MARCH 20, AS SOON AS YOU GUYS, THE CITY SAY

GO, WE ARE READY TO PUT THAT RFP OUT.
WE HAVE ALL OF THE PLACES, MR. RONNIE BEING A CONTRACTOR,
TOLD US WHAT TO DO, HOW TO DO IT, WHEN TO DO IT AND WHERE TO
DO IT.
WE'RE READY TO MOVE.
ALL WE NEED IS THE GO SIGN.
I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS ABOUT THREE, FOUR MONTHS.
WE'RE TAKING A LEAD ROLL BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING THE WHIPPIN'.
PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHAT WE ARE NOT DOING, SO THIS IS WHAT WE
ARE DOING.
WE'RE JUST TAKING THE LEAD.
WE DID THE RFP.
WE'LL GO OUT THERE WITH IT AS LONG AS THE CITY SAYS IT'S
OKAY AND THE STATE SAYS IT'S OKAY.
MR. SMITH AT THE STATE WILL LOOK AT IT.
THE CITY WILL LOOK AT IT AND IT'S READY TO GO AND YOU HAVE
EYES ON IT NOW.
THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS, WE WANT TO MENTION THOSE FOR YOU.
I UNDERSTAND FLORIDA SUNSHINE.
WE DO MEET EVERY OTHER MONDAY.
I'VE INVITED A BOARD MEMBER TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS.
IF ANY OF YOU GUYS WANT TO JOIN ON, IT IS WHAT WE CALL --
IT'S VIRTUAL.
IT'S NOT IN PERSON.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO RESUME THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS SO THAT THE

COMMUNITY CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS OF US, SEE WHAT WE ARE
DOING.
WE STOPPED THEM WITH COVID.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO RESUME, AND THE FIRST ONE, YOU SEE THE
SCHEDULE.
WE ARE DOING IT QUARTERLY.
WE'RE DOING THEM ON THE SECOND OR FIRST SATURDAY OF EACH
MONTH AT 10:00, AND WE'RE DOING THEM VERY SHORT, GIVE YOU A
LITTLE BIT OF A KIND OF SEMI BREAKFAST BRUNCH.
AND THE FIRST MEETING IS ALREADY SET UP.
MARCH 8, CARVER CITY LINCOLN GARDENS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT IN THE SAME AREA.
WE'LL TRY TO CARRY IT AROUND THE CITY SO THAT IT WILL BE IN
THE COMMUNITY SO PEOPLE WANT TO COME OUT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO
COME.
WE ARE THERE FOR THEM AND THEY ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO
ATTEND AND ASK US QUESTIONS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IN PHASE ONE THROUGH FIVE HERE, FIVE IS
WHEN YOU ALL ARE COMING WITH US TO HELP CUT THE RIBBON AND
WE ASK ALL OF YOU GUYS TO BE THERE.
THE FIRST PHASE IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
AND THAT IS TO GET THESE RFQs OUT THERE SO THAT WE CAN GET
THE BIDDING PROCESS STARTED AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE
SCOPE OF WORK.
THE SCOPE OF WORK HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED, STABILIZING THE

FLOORS.
YOU CAN FORGET THAT.
WE HAVE TO REDO THE FOUNDATION.
IT'S CALLED SCALING AND STABILIZING THE WALLS.
EVERY ONE OF THOSE NINE SCOPE OF WORK ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED IN OUR GRANT THAT WE HAD TO DO AT THE STATE,
WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THEM WHILE WE ALSO UPGRADE THEM AND
BRING THEM UP CURRENTLY TO WHAT THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS
ARE.
IT IS FROM THAT POINT ON WE'LL GO IN THE FOUNDATION.
WE ARE NOT PUTTING A TIMELINE ON IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT
WE'VE GOT TO GET CODES APPROVAL, ET CETERA.
THIS IS ONE OF THE SIMPLE INITIAL GETTING STARTED, LAYING
OUT.
THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THIS, BUT WE
WENT INTO THE HOUSE.
WE MARK THINGS.
WE HAVE TAKEN THEM OUT.
WE ARE PAYING FOR THEM.
THEY WERE FUMIGATED, THEY WERE CLEANED AND PUT IN STORAGE.
SOMEBODY SAID WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT CAME OUT OF THE
HOUSE THAT YOU NEED TO SAVE.
THAT'S NOT MY BALL OF WAX.
MINE IS TO KNOW ONCE WE GET THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS ON,
THEY KNOW THE PERCENTAGE.

THEY CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY AND VERY
INSTRUMENTAL.
THEY WERE ORIGINALLY STORING IT.
FROM THE BRICKS ON THE CHIMNEY TO THE WALLS IN THE HOUSE, TO
THE DOOR KNOBS, ET CETERA, EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN REUSE HAS
ALREADY BEEN PUT IN STORAGE.
IT IS THERE, AND WE ARE PAYING ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO MAKE
SURE THAT IT IS KEPT IN A PRISTINE STATE.
JUST ANOTHER KIND OF LAYOUT DRAWING OF WHAT THE ARCHITECT
HAS ALREADY PUT TOGETHER.
WE HAVE A WHOLE LAYOUT OF THIS.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE NOT BEEN DOING ANYTHING.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT.
WE JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS AS YOU HEARD EARLIER THAT
MAY HAVE BEEN LIMITING WHERE WE GO WITH IT.
OUR GOAL IS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR VISION, OUR MISSION AT
THE JACKSON HOUSE, AND THAT IS TO RESTORE THE HISTORY TO
INSPIRE FUTURE GENERATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN MOVE FASTER, EXCEPT
ASKING EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY TO HELP.
PEOPLE ASK WHY YOU GUYS ARE NOT ASKING FOR MONEY.
WE HAVE LAW FIRMS THAT HAVE US COME AND DO PRESENTATIONS TO
THEM.
THEY GIVE US DONATIONS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE GO IN ON OUR WEBSITE AND GIVE US DONATIONS.

MONEY IS NOT WHAT -- WE NEED MONEY.
WE NEED MONEY.
WE NEED MONEY.
EVERYBODY NEED MONEY.
BUT MONEY IS NOT EXACTLY THE CRITICAL PIECE HERE.
THE CRITICAL PIECE HERE IS WHAT CAN YOU ALL DO AS THE
COUNCIL TO HELP US HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA MOVE THIS
NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK FORWARD AND GET THE THINGS.
I MUST ADMIT, THANKS TO THE COUNCIL THAT I HAVE SPOKE TO,
AND I KNOW I SPOKE PERSONALLY AT LEAST WITH THREE OF YOU AND
TO THE OTHERS, WE'RE STILL COMING BECAUSE WE WANT TO TALK
WITH EACH OF YOU AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THOSE TWO MAJOR
THINGS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE'VE HAD OFFERS.
WE'VE GOT TO DO APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
WE HAVE NOW TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO WALK IN -- I WANT ANYBODY TO WALK IN
ANY DAY AND AUDIT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND I DON'T WANT -- I'LL
SAY THIS PUBLICLY NOW.
JACKSON HOUSE IS NOT WRITING THE CHECKS FOR THIS.
THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION PURPOSEFULLY AGREED WAY LONG
TIME AGO WITH MR. VINIK, AND WE PUT IT IN THE TAMPA BAY
HISTORY CENTER HAND SO THEY HAVE THEIR CFO, IT WOULD BE
MANAGED FROM THERE.

DO WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING?
YES.
DO WE SIGN OFF?
WE'RE SIGNING OFF ON EVERYTHING GIVEN TO US AND WE'RE ALSO
LOOKING AT ALL OF THE CONTRACTS AND WE HAVE AN MOU WHERE
THERE ARE THREE OF US THAT SIGN OFF.
BUT WE ARE NOT HANDLING THE MONEY AND WHOEVER HANDLES THE
MONEY, WE WANT THEM TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERY PENNY.
WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT AS
WELL.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I'M AT THE END.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
10:01:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR. COLLINS, FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP.
I HAVE 110% FAITH IN YOU AND YOUR BOARD.
I KNOW THAT YOU'LL GET THIS VERY SIGNIFICANT, IMPORTANT
HISTORICAL HOME RESTORED.
NEXT MONTH IS GOING TO BE TEN YEARS THAT I HAD MY FIRST
CONVERSATION AS COUNCIL MEMBER-ELECT WITH MAYOR BUCKHORN AND
THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED HIM, WHAT ABOUT THE JACKSON
HOUSE?
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED WITH THE HOME, THE HISTORY OF
THE HOME, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HOME.
IT WAS JUST OVER FOUR YEARS AGO THAT I TOURED THE HOME.
YOU MENTIONED MR. RONNIE WILLIAMS REGARDING ALL THE WOOD

BOTTOMS THAT ARE INSIDE KEEPING THE HOUSE UP, I WALKED
THROUGH THE SECOND FLOOR, THE FIRST FLOOR.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE PICTURES.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL INSIDE.
IT'S VERY COLORFUL.
IT'S FROZEN IN TIME.
IT'S A PIECE OF HISTORY.
LIKE THE FUSE BOX IS THE ORIGINAL BOX FROM 50 YEARS AGO.
THERE ARE SO MANY ELEMENTS.
BUT I HAVE COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAITH THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM
WILL GET THIS DONE WITH YOUR PARTNERS.
I'M BEHIND YOU 150%.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, BUT IT'S IN GOOD HANDS.
I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO COME TO FRUITION.
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:02:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. COLLINS, AND YOUR
TEAM.
YOU HAVE A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD
ON THIS.
THIS ANSWERS, I THINK, THE QUESTION THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN
ASKING US FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.
WHAT IS THE PLAN TO SAVE IT?
FOR NOW AND IF ANYBODY -- EVERY TIME IT RAINS, EVERY TIME
WIND COMES BY, PEOPLE SAY WHY ISN'T THE CITY SAVING THE

JACKSON HOUSE?
I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS HERE AND THAT YOU'RE
PRESENTING SHOWS EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE LEGITIMATELY TRYING TO
WORK TOGETHER TO SAVE IT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT.
AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, AND YOU GUYS PUT
MORE DETAIL IN THAN YOU TOLD ME ABOUT YESTERDAY, WHICH I
APPRECIATE, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO DO TODAY IS JUST SHOW THE
PLAN.
BUT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE
HOLDUP?
WE NEED A MORE DETAILED PLAN, WHICH THE ARCHITECT WILL GIVE.
MY SUGGESTION TO THEM IS THAT THEY PUT -- I WANT THEM TO
INCLUDE THE RFP HERE SO WE COULD SEE IT.
I THINK THEY SHOULD PUT THE RFP OUT MORE QUICKLY SO WE COULD
GET A DETAILED PLAN, AND THAT WILL HELP US SHOW THE PUBLIC
WHAT WE CAN DO.
IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS EXACTLY FOR THAT, I WOULD
SUGGEST SHE COME BACK BEFORE THE CRA.
MAYBE THE CRA -- IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY MUCH FOR THAT
STAGE OF IT.
THE OTHER THING IS IN TERMS OF THE EASEMENT, THERE'S BEEN A
LOT OF BACK AND FORTH ON THAT.
PART OF IT IS THAT ALIS DRUMGO WHO WAS HERE, SPENT A LOT OF
TIME NEGOTIATING THAT.

THAT DEAL WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND MAYBE IN THE CRA
MONTHS AGO.
THERE WAS SOME MISINFORMATION ABOUT THE DEAL.
THE DEAL WAS THAT THE CRA WOULD PROVIDE FOR A D.O.T. CUTOUT
TO ALLOW ANOTHER ENTRANCE FOR THE ACCARDI PROPERTY BECAUSE
THEY OWN ALL THE PROPERTY AROUND IT.
AND THE CRA PAID, I THINK, $1.5 MILLION.
THE MISINFORMATION WAS THAT SOME FOLKS SAID, WELL, THE CITY
IS TRADING THE ALLEYWAY FOR THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY.
WHAT THE CRA DID WAS TO PAY FOR THAT CUTOUT WITH D.O.T. IN
EXCHANGE FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
BUT THAT CONTRACT HAS A STIPULATION THAT IT'S DEPENDENT ON
THE VACATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.
JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, BEFORE MARTY STOPS ME, THE VACATION
OF THE ALLEYWAY IS QUASI-JUDICIAL.
SO THE CITY CANNOT GIVE IT -- IT IS A DECISION OF CITY
COUNCIL SITTING QUASI-JUDICIAL FORMAT, WE HAVE TO DECIDE
THAT BASED ON THE EVIDENCE IN THE ROOM.
IT CAN'T BE PART OF ANY DEAL.
IT CAN'T HAVE ANY -- SOMEBODY CAN GIVE EVIDENCE ABOUT THE
JACKSON HOUSE, BUT IT WOULD BE THERE.
YOU ALL KNOW ALSO THAT WHEN A VACATION HAPPENS, YOU OUTLINE,
DR. COLLINS, THE SPACE AROUND THE OUTSIDE, BUT YOUR PORTION
OF THE ALLEYWAY, ALSO IF THE VACATION OCCURS, WOULD, IN
THEORY, GO OVER TO -- SO WHERE THE TREE IS IN THE BACK TO

THE LEFT THERE, THERE WOULD BE SOME PORTION OF THE ALLEYWAY
THAT WOULD GO TO THE JACKSON HOUSE AS WELL.
THE HOLDUP IS THAT THE ONLY HOLDUP NOW IS THAT THE ACCARDIS
HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE VACATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.
THEY ARE AFRAID THAT THE FOUNDATION WILL OPPOSE IT.
SO THEY WANT THE FOUNDATION TO AGREE IN ADVANCE THAT THEY'LL
SUPPORT IT.
THAT IS THE LAST PIECE, WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL,
THAT IS THE LAST PIECE THAT HAS TO BE WORKED ON.
I'VE COMMITTED TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE FOUNDATION.
I TALKED TO JASON ACCARDI.
I TALKED TO HIS REPRESENTATIVES.
I THINK WE'RE NOT THAT FAR.
I THINK THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THIS QUICKLY IF WE ALL WORK
TOGETHER AND MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
AND THEN SIMULTANEOUSLY THE FOUNDATION WORKS ON THE PLAN
WITH THE RFP AND THE ARCHITECT, WE'LL HAVE A DETAILED PLAN.
THE ARCHITECTS I TALKED TO AND THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
STUDIED IT BUT TALKED ABOUT IT, SAY PEEVE TO PEEL ALL THE
PIECES APART AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.
THERE MAY BE A TIME WHERE THERE IS NOTHING THERE AND PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNITY WILL PANIC.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE IT APART TO REBUILD IT.
AND TRY TO REUSE AS MUCH OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION AS WE
COULD.

THE LAST THING IS I WANT TO REITERATE AGAIN WHAT I SAID
EARLIER, THIS IS THE LETTER THAT I SHOWED A COUPLE OF MONTHS
AGO WHEN THIS CAME UP.
MARTY, COULD YOU PASS ONE OF THESE TO DR. COLLINS.
I THINK YOU HAVE THIS.
THIS IS A LETTER FROM THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION, NOVEMBER
13, 2013, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I MET WILLIE ROBINSON.
HE GAVE ME THIS LETTER.
IT WAS WEDNESDAY, THE WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
AND WHAT THIS SAYS IS THE CITY WAS GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN THE
SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, PRESUMABLY WHEN NOBODY WAS
PAYING ATTENTION AND THEY WERE GOING TO FINE WILLIE FOR
TEARING IT DOWN AND ALSO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES.
I THINK SHE'S PUTTING IT ON THE OVERHEAD.
LINDA SAUL-SENA CAME IN THE NEXT DAY TO CITY COUNCIL AND
PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON THAT WAS HERE IS CHARLIE MIRANDA.
SO THANK YOU TO HIM FOR HELPING TO SAVE IT.
I WAS NOT HERE.
BUT CITY COUNCIL SAVED IT FROM BEING TORN DOWN, AND THEN
SHORTLY AFTER DR. COLLINS AND HER FOUNDATION STEPPED UP.
IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD TO TRY TO FULFILL THE DREAM OF THE
ROBINSON FAMILY, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO ME, I THINK THE
JACKSON HOUSE TELLS A STORY THAT MY KIDS KNOW, AND I HOPE
EVERY KID GROWING UP IN THE FUTURE KNOWS, WHICH IS NOT ONLY

WAS THERE FAMOUS MUSIC AND FAMOUS PEOPLE THERE, BUT WHEN
AFRICAN AMERICANS LEFT, EVEN WAR VETERANS WHEN THEY LEFT
TAMPA UNION STATION, THEY COULDN'T STAY IN WHITE HOTELS.
AND THIS IS LAST IMPORTANT PIECE OF CENTRAL AVENUE, WE NEED
TO PRESERVE THAT HISTORY.
THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT.
10:08:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:08:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS MORNING.
I'M SURE YOU KNOW WE GET BOMBARDED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
JACKSON HOUSE.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED -- I THINK THAT, ONE, HOW DID WE GET
HERE.
IT'S BEEN SO LONG IN THE COMING AND NOT A LOT OF THINGS
HAPPENING.
I KNOW YOU CAN'T GO BACKWARDS.
MY CONCERN IS I DON'T SEE A LOT OF PROOF POSITIVE STEPS.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE MISSING A PROJECT MANAGER.
IS THERE A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS?
10:09:13AM >> IT'S A PROJECT MANAGER, WHAT THEY CALL A CONSTRUCTION
MANAGER.
THE STATE HAS ASKED US TO ASK MR. RONNIE WILLIAMS, HE CAN
STAY ON THE BOARD IF HE DOESN'T GET PAID OR TO STEP OFF THE

BOARD BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE PROJECT AND TO HAVE HIM BE THAT.
WE WILL GET A PROJECT MANAGER.
TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER HAS SOMEONE THAT WAS WORKING WITH
THEM THAT WAS SOMEWHAT KIND OF SERVING THAT PURPOSE WITH
THEM BECAUSE IT IS NOT AT THIS PHASE, DAY-TO-DAY MANAGEMENT
IS NOT JUST THE JACKSON HOUSE.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FITTING AND PRUDENT TO BRING IN OTHER
INDIVIDUALS.
SO WE'VE BEEN USING OTB CONSULTANT TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE
QUESTIONS, BUT THEY ARE NOT THAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
AND BE UP FRONT WITH YOU, THERE IS A COMPONENT MISSING
BECAUSE I'VE WRITTEN TWICE, TWO YEARS IN A ROW, I'M DOING IT
AGAIN NOW FOR A GRANT.
I AM NOT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE.
I'M NOT A DIRECTOR FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE.
I CHAIR THE BOARD AND I SHARE MY LIFE TO DO THIS FOR THE
LAST TEN YEARS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD FIND -- I HAD A
GENTLEMAN CALL ME FROM CALIFORNIA SAY WHAT YOU NEED?
I SAID WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ME ENOUGH MONEY SO WE CAN GET AN
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR DIRECTOR, SOMEBODY THAT COULD BE THERE
AND DO DAY TO DAY ALMOST ON A FULL-TIME BASIS.
I'M STILL PURSUING THAT BECAUSE WITH A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER
THAT WILL ACTUALLY BRING IN ALL THESE PEOPLE.
MR. WILLIAMS, IF I SAY IT WRONG, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT

ENGINEERING FIRM OR THAT ARCHITECT FIRM MAKE SURE THEY HIRE
THE PERSON ON OR HAVE THEM SERVING.
10:10:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME ON UP, SIR, SO WE CAN GET YOU ON
THE MICROPHONE.
10:11:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME INJECT.
IT SEEMS AS THOUGH -- I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT
SEEMS AS THOUGH A PROJECT MANAGER WOULD BE MUCH MORE OF AN
ALL-ENCOMPASSING, BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THESE
ELEMENTS FOR YOU ALL AND HELP YOU GUIDE THIS ENTIRE PROJECT
FOR ALL THE COMPONENTS.
SO A PROFESSIONAL PROJECT MANAGER SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A
GREAT WAY TO FACILITATE AND MAYBE ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE
FRUSTRATION THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE EXPERIENCING WITH -- FROM
FOLKS AND SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION THAT THE ELECTED FOLKS AND
OTHERS THAT HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT'S LISTENING TO HELP
FACILITATE YOU GUYS GETTING A PROFESSIONAL PROJECT MANAGER,
SOMEBODY WHO IS CAPABLE OF DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK AND
UNDERSTANDS THE NUANCES OF WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND THE
SENSITIVITIES THAT THIS PROJECT INVOLVES TO GET THIS THING
DONE.
I THINK THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE A CATALYST TO HELP YOU ALL
OUT IS MY ADVICE.
10:12:04AM >> YOU'RE RIGHT.

FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THE PROJECT MANAGER PIECE.
10:12:09AM >> I THINK HE'S SPEAKING OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT BEFORE
CONSTRUCTION STARTS.
OTB CONSULTANT, CONSULTING HAS BEEN PROVIDING SOME OF THAT
SERVICE.
TRYING TO GET ALL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER AND DEVELOP A
PLAN TO GET US TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN START CONSTRUCTION.
10:12:33AM >> THAT'S WHY YOU ARE RIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED.
BUT BEFORE WE GO WITH A PROJECT MANAGER, DESIGN PLAN, THEY
HAVE INDICATED TO US THAT WE HAVE ONE, ON WHAT WE WANT THE
HOUSE TO BE SO THAT WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL COME IN, THEY GET
THE PROJECT MANAGER, AND THEY CAN RUN IT WITH EVERYTHING.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WE WANT THE
COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND ONE CRITICAL PIECE.
WE CAN TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN NOW.
WE CAN REBUILD THE HOUSE WITH CEMENT BRICKS, ET CETERA.
AND ONCE THE HOUSE IS COMPLETED, PART OF THE COMPLETION, YOU
WOULDN'T SEE THE BRICKS.
YOU'LL SEE A FACADE ON THE OUTSIDE, WHICH WOULD BE THE WOOD
SIDING, AND IT WILL LOOK JUST LIKE THE OLD JACKSON HOUSE BUT
ALSO DO A MAJOR THING THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO DO.
WE WOULD LOSE THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
10:13:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LIKE I SAID, I FEEL LIKE EVEN ON THE FRONT
END OF THIS, IF YOU GUYS MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AND TALK TO SOME
FOLKS ABOUT -- THAT MAY, AGAIN, BE THE SOLUTION TO THIS

PROBLEM.
SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
THANK YOU.
10:13:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:13:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
APPRECIATE IT.
GOOD MORNING, DR. COLLINS, HOW ARE YOU?
CAN YOU PUT UP THE RENDERING, THE FUTURE RENDERING AS A
VISUAL?
YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO GET
VERY SPECIFIC, IF YOU CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
10:13:51AM >> CAN YOU BRING THE SLIDES UP, PLEASE?
10:13:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST THE RENDERING OF WHAT THE JACKSON
HOUSE SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE
AS WELL AS THE BOARD.
I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST YOU ALONE.
THE ONE PIECE THAT YOU DISCUSSED THIS MORNING WAS THAT YOU
ARE IN MORE RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ACCARDI BROTHERS
AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
NOT THAT ONE.
THE ACTUAL SLIDE OF WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.
THERE.
THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.
WE KNOW THE ACCARDI BROTHERS OWN THE SURROUNDING PARKING LOT

PROPERTY AROUND THE PROPERTY.
FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE IN COMPLETION, FOR VISITORS TO HAVE
ACCESSIBILITY, THAT BACK PIECE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT
IS?
10:15:01AM >> THE BACK PIECE ON THIS SECTION THAT LOOKS GLASSED IN,
THAT IS A SECTION THAT WE COULD DO WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE THAT
SECTION OF THE HOUSE CAN BE TORN DOWN.
IT'S NOT A PART OF ANY OF THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
IT WAS ADDED ON.
IT IS NOT REQUIRED.
RATHER THAN TEARING IT DOWN TO HAVE CONTINUITY TO THE HOUSE,
WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THAT SECTION AND WE HAD TWO OPTIONS
WHEN WE STARTED TALKING WITH THE ARCHITECT.
TEAR IT DOWN.
GIVE US THREE TO FOUR PARALLEL PARKING FACING EACH OTHER OR
LET'S DO SOMETHING ELSE.
BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE OVERALL AND WE'RE GOING TO
LOSE SOME OF THE LOOMS WITH SOME OF THE DESIGN PLANS, WE
DECIDED THAT WOULD BE THE RECEPTION AREA.
THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE COME IN, WHERE THE ELEVATOR WOULD BE, SO
THAT WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND WHAT THEY
CALL ADL ACCESS.
THE RAMP YOU SEE IS RUNNING UP TO GO INTO THAT ROOM.
THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
NOW, BEHIND THAT IS THE TREE AND THE REFERENCE THAT

COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE REFERENCE TO IS IF WE CLOSE -- IF
THE ALLEY IS VACATED AND, YES, WE DID OPPOSE TO VACATING THE
ALLEY IN THE PAST ONCE WE VACATE THE ALLEY, WE LOSE THE
BACK.
10:16:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EXACTLY.
10:16:25AM >> TO BE HONEST, HOW DO WE GET BACK THERE?
THAT IS THE EASEMENT.
10:16:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DR. COLLINS, I'M TRYING TO GET VERY
SPECIFIC WITH YOU.
WHAT IS THE HOLDUP WITH THE ACCARDI BROTHERS THAT'S
PREVENTING THIS FROM HAPPENING?
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GIVE UP THE VACATION OF THE LAND.
THAT IS A PROBLEM.
SO THAT NEGOTIATION, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY ARE ASKING OF YOU?
WHY CAN'T YOU ALL GET THAT PART DONE BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE
BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
I KNOW THAT'S VERY BOLD AND DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE
SPOT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
THIS IS THE MISSING PIECE RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE
MOVING FORWARD.
IF YOU CAN'T SAY IT, JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY YOU CAN'T SAY IT.
WHAT IS IT IN THEIR AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER YOU ARE
NEGOTIATING THAT IS PREVENTING THIS FROM HAPPENING SO WE CAN
MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
10:17:14AM >> WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THE AGREEMENT NOW.

10:17:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT'S JUST A PARKING LOT FOR THEM.
WHAT IS IT -- WHAT IS THE CONCERN FOR THEM?
CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?
MAYBE THEY CAN THERE'S, BUT CAN YOU ADDRESS IT FROM A LEGAL
STANDPOINT?
10:17:30AM >> THEY WERE WILLING TO BE HERE WITH US TODAY, AND I THINK
MAYBE THE ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BEEN HERE.
BUT HERE IS THE ISSUE FOR US.
THE EASEMENT WE ASKED FOR WAS FOR 20 FEET ON THE EAST AND
WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
THEN WE WENT DOWN TO 15 FEET, AND THEN WE ARE NOW AT 10 FEET
EASEMENT ON EACH SIDE.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE EASEMENT, EVEN IF THE EASEMENT
IS GIVEN TO THE CITY TO MOVE THINGS POSTHASTE, GIVE THE
JACKSON HOUSE THE EASEMENT.
WE WILL TAKE THE HIT AND WE WILL GIVE UP THE BACK ACCESS TO
THE HOUSE.
10:18:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU CAN'T GIVE UP THE BACK ACCESS.
IF YOU GIVE UP THE BACK ACCESS, THEN WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF
THE CELEBRATION AND THE ENTRYWAY OF WELCOMING PEOPLE AND
MAKING IT A VIABLE SPACE THAT IS --
10:18:14AM >> WE WILL GAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE BACK, BUT WE WILL
HAVE WHAT WE NEED ON THE SIDE.
AND I WILL SAY -- I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, THE STATE SAID,
WHERE IS YOUR CITY ON THIS HISTORICAL PROJECT?

IS THE CITY SUPPORTING YOU?
I'VE HEARD THE SUPPORT FROM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
I'VE GOTTEN THE SUPPORT FROM THE MAYOR.
THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM AT THE CITY.
10:18:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ARE THE ACCARDI BROTHERS SUPPORTING YOU?
10:18:38AM >> THE ACCARDI BROTHERS ARE NOW TALKING WITH US AGAIN.
AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD BUY, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO
PAY FOR IT.
10:18:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HAVE YOU OFFERED?
HAVE YOU OFFERED THEM -- PARKING LOT SPACE?
10:18:57AM >> -- SINCE WE GOT THE PLANS ALMOST DRAWN, WE'VE OFFERED
EVERYTHING TO EVERYBODY TO TRY TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY.
WE HAVE NOW DECIDED -- IN DECEMBER OF 2023, I HAD OFFERING.
I DECIDED TO SAY TO THE BOARD AND ARCHITECT, GIVE US TWO
PLANS.
ONE WITH THE EASEMENT AND ONE WITHOUT.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, THE ONE WITHOUT IS LOSING THE
HISTORICAL DESIGNATION, BUILDING A BRICK HOUSE, SO THAT WE
WON'T HAVE A WOODEN HOUSE THAT THEY SAY EXPLODES IN FIRE IN
20 MINUTES COMPARED TO BRICK.
THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A ZERO LOT LINE DOWNTOWN TAMPA THAT IS
TWO HOURS.
THE JACKSON HOUSE BEEN THERE SINCE, WELL, I'M GOING TO ROUND
IT OFF.
WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1899, 1900.

THE CODE WENT IN EFFECT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN 1954.
THE ACCARDIS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2012.
SOMEBODY HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR SEVEN FEET
EASEMENT ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT, THE EAST AND WEST, AND EVEN
IF THERE WAS A WAIVER AS WE CAN GO ALL OVER THE CITY AND SEE
WAIVERS, THERE ARE SOME HOUSES BEING BUILT NOW THAT ARE NOT
SEVEN FEET.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YBOR CITY AND MAYBE SOME OTHER AREAS HAVE
BEEN GIVEN WAIVERS OF THREE FEET.
BUT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE THREE FEET THERE.
AND WE WERE THERE FIRST.
AND WE'RE NOT BLAMING THE CITY.
WE'RE NOT BLAMING ACCARDI BECAUSE THEY PURCHASED IT.
ALL WE'RE SAYING IS PLEASE HELP US GET WHAT WE NEED SO WE
CAN MOVE FORWARD.
AND ARE WE WILLING TO MAKE AN ULTIMATE SACRIFICE, GUYS?
THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR US TO GET THE HOUSE BUILT SO WE
DON'T HAVE -- IS WE'LL AGREE TO VACATE THE ALLEY AND GIVE US
THE EASEMENT.
WE WANT THE EASEMENT TODAY SO WE CAN GET STARTED.
10:20:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT
PUBLICLY AND GIVING SOME BACKGROUND.
10:20:51AM >> WORKING WITH JASON ACCARDI.
MET WITH JOHN AND THE ACCARDIS AND THEIR ATTORNEYS AND ALL,
AND THEY ARE WRITING BACK AND FORTH WITH US, ONE OF OUR

ATTORNEYS WORKING WITH US.
RIGHT NOW, I'M TALKING WITH JASON.
JASON LITERALLY CALLING ME EVERY WEEK.
10:21:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SAYING WHAT?
10:21:09AM >> WHERE ARE WE?
ARE YOU READY TO SIGN THIS --
10:21:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SIGN WHAT?
10:21:13AM >> SIGN THE AGREEMENT.
10:21:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT, NONDISCLOSURE?
10:21:19AM >> -- WE CAN'T SHARE IT WITH YOU OR ANYONE ELSE.
10:21:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHY?
10:21:24AM >> YOU HAVE TO ASK THE ACCARDIS.
THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.
10:21:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THEY WANT YOU TO SIGN A NONDISCLOSURE
AGREEMENT THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT IS A
NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY CHALLENGING FOR
THIS BOARD --
10:21:39AM >> AND IT'S CHALLENGING FOR MY BOARD.
10:21:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT NEEDS TO BE KNOWN.
IT'S JUST TIME TO PLAY HARD BALL A LITTLE BIT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I DON'T WANT TO DANCE AROUND IT.
YOUR PRESENTATION WAS GREAT, BUT THE MEAT OF MOVING FORWARD
IS THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE THAT HAS TO BE RESOLVED.
I KNOW THAT IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND REALLY, IT'S ABOUT A

LOT OF GOODWILL WILL HAVE TO TAKE PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS -- THE CRAZY PART FOR ME AND THE
THING I STRUGGLE WITH AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IS THAT THIS IS
THE LAND WHERE THEY PERMITTED THE ENSLAVED TO LIVE AFTER
EMANCIPATION.
SO THE FEW REMAINING STRUCTURES AS A CITY.
NOT A BLACK THING.
IT IS A CITY THING.
THE FEW REMAINING STRUCTURES, WHETHER PRIVATE OR PUBLIC, IT
DOESN'T MATTER, EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO PRESERVE
HISTORICAL BLACK SPACES IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE FIGHT FOR
OTHER THINGS AND WE GIVE AWAY A LOT OF BLACK SPACES.
THIS IS REALLY INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT THIS PROJECT REALLY IS
BEING HELD UP BY SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME.
I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME, CHAIR.
10:23:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND CARLSON.
10:23:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
WE OBVIOUSLY APPRECIATE -- I KNOW I DO -- COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON'S PERSPECTIVE TALKING ABOUT THE SYMBOLIC AND REAL
LIVING HISTORY AND HOW WE HAVE SEEN SO MANY PARTS OF BLACK
HISTORY ATTACKED LOCALLY AND STATEWIDE AND NATIONALLY, AND
WE LIVE IN A TIME WHERE THINGS LIKE THAT AREN'T JUST BEING

UNDERMINED; THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED.
SO HAVING THIS TODAY IN FEBRUARY, BLACK HISTORY MONTH, BUT
IN THE YEAR 2025 IS, I THINK, A REAL BIG THING.
IN OUR CITY OF TAMPA, WE HAVE TO PROMOTE TAMPA HISTORY, OUR
BLACK HISTORY, NAMES LIKE GARLAND STUART.
ARTHENIA JUNIOR, FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ, NAMES WE DON'T TALK A
LOT ABOUT.
ROBERT JOHNSON.
CHAMBERS.
THAT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHAT THE JACKSON HOUSE REALLY,
REALLY MEANS, OBVIOUSLY.
GOD WILLING -- I DO MEAN GOD WILLING, BECAUSE I THINK THIS
IS ON THE SIDE OF DECENCY.
WE CAN HAVE BIG MOVEMENT ON THIS WHERE WE CAN ERECT THIS AND
HAVE IT IN THE PROPER SPACE WITH -- COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN
MYERS ALSO WORKING ON AN AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND ARTS
MUSEUM.
THESE TWO THINGS, ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, CAN REALLY
PROVIDE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
SUCH A GREAT STATEMENT ON WHERE WE STAND ON THAT MORAL
ISSUE, THE HISTORY THAT IS PAINFUL ACUTE AND REPRESENTS
WOUNDS FOR TOO MANY AMERICANS THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE TODAY
INJUSTICE, INDIGNITY FOR PEOPLE TODAY ARE THINGS THAT WE'LL
TALK ABOUT AND INCORPORATE IN OUR POLICIES.
I SAY THAT TO SAY, DOCTOR, THAT ALL SEVEN OF US 100% SUPPORT

THIS.
I KNOW WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS SET ASIDE I BELIEVE IT IS
IN THE CRA FOR THIS.
AND I THINK CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD SAY THAT ANY OTHER
AMOUNT WE CAN GIVE TO HELP OUT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS
PRESERVED, WE'LL DO IT.
BECAUSE EVERY TIME I KNOW ALL SEVEN OF US PASS BY THAT
STRUCTURE, IT'S PRETTY -- THE FACT THAT THAT BUILDING IS
STILL UP, WE HAVE TO WRITE POPE FRANCIS AND REPORT A
MIRACLE.
I MEAN THAT.
MA'AM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
AS HAS BEEN SAID, WE STAND BY YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THIS.
THANK YOU.
10:25:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:25:36AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, THIS IS -- OUR COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON TALKED ABOUT SAVING BLACK SPACES, THIS IS
IMPORTANT, AS I SAID EARLIER, IT IS AN IMPORTANT BLACK SPACE
WE NEED TO PROTECT.
2013, CITY COUNCIL SAVED THIS FROM BEING TORN DOWN.
WE SHOWED THE LETTER A FEW MINUTES AGO.
THE SAME YEAR, AT THE SAME TIME I GOT THE LETTER FROM
WILLIE, I ALSO PROMISED HIM THAT I WOULD WORK TO HELP,
SIMILAR TO THE PROMISE DR. COLLINS GAVE.
DR. COLLINS AND MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS KNEW HIM BETTER

THAN I DID.
WE DID A LOT OF THINGS OVER THE YEARS TO TRY TO SAVE IT.
I WAS PART OF AN EFFORT TO TRY TO RESTORE IT BEFORE THE
FOUNDATION, AND I PASSED OUT THE LETTERS LAST TIME, BUT THE
BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION ALSO STOPPED THAT.
THE REASON WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG, ONE, WE HAD AN
ADMINISTRATION THAT WANTED TO TEAR IT DOWN.
THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON
THIS.
THIS COUNCIL OR THE PREVIOUS ONE HAVE SPENT FIVE YEARS I
THINK WORKING ON THIS.
IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR US BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN PUSHING IT AND
TRYING TO GET TO A CONCLUSION.
I THINK WE'RE DOWN TO A NEGOTIATION, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN
KEEP EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE AFTER THIS CONVERSATION.
THE CONVERSATION I'VE HAD OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS ARE REALLY
GOOD.
JASON ACCARDI IS ON A CRUISE SHIP RIGHT NOW IN THE
CARIBBEAN.
I TALKED TO HIM ON THE PHONE YESTERDAY AS HE WAS ABOUT TO
GET ON, BUT HE WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
HE SENT STEVE MICHELINI, WHO MAYBE WE'LL ASK TO SAY
SOMETHING IN A MINUTE.
I ALSO TALKED TO HIS ATTORNEY YESTERDAY.
WHAT THEY SAID, DR. COLLINS APPARENTLY CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE

DOCUMENT.
MAYBE STEVE BROUGHT A COPY OF IT.
WHAT JASON SAID TO ME AND HIS ATTORNEY IS SIMPLY SAYS THEY
WANT THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION TO AGREE IN ADVANCE THAT
THEY'LL SUPPORT THE VACATION OF THE ALLEY.
THAT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THEM.
THE CITY AND CRA HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT WHEN JASON COMES BACK, IF WE CAN GET
EVERYBODY TO TALK TOGETHER, MAYBE WE'LL TRY AGAIN.
BY THE WAY, ALIS DRUMGO SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS BEFORE HE
LEFT TRYING TO NEGOTIATE THIS.
HE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH ALL THE OFFICIALS.
I TALKED TO ABBYE ABOUT SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS SHE'S HAD.
MORRIS HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN IT.
IT'S NOT A LACK OF EFFORT OF EVERYBODY TRYING TO COME
TOGETHER, BUT WHAT WE NEED AT THIS POINT IS FOR EVERYBODY TO
COME TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT WE WANT.
THINK ABOUT THE ACCARDI'S POSITION.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF LAND.
ONE OF THE CRITICISMS IS THEY DON'T DEVELOP IT.
THEY CAN SIT ON THE LAND FOREVER IF THEY WANT.
THEIR BUSINESS IS PARKING.
THEY CAN WAIT OUT THIS CITY COUNCIL, WAIT OUT THIS
ADMINISTRATION, WAIT OUT THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION.

AND THE JACKSON HOUSE WOULD FALL DOWN.
THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH US TO SAVE IT BECAUSE
THEY ARE NEGOTIATING SOMETHING.
NOT NEGOTIATING EVERYTHING WE WANT, BUT NEGOTIATING
SOMETHING.
IF WE CAN GET THAT AS THE STARTER, AT LEAST WE CAN SAVE IT
BECAUSE THE NEXT STORM WILL TEAR IT DOWN.
10:28:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHY DO THEY NEED A VACATION OF THE ALLEY?
I'M SORRY.
I'M OUT OF ORDER.
I APOLOGIZE.
10:28:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT'S UP TO THEM, AND, ALSO, MARTY WILL
PROBABLY CUT US OFF BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SIT IN A
QUASI-JUDICIAL DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT THAT, AND WE'LL HAVE
TO DISCUSS THAT SEPARATELY.
TYPICALLY, WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER OWNS ALL THE PROPERTY
AROUND THE ALLEY, WE GIVE THE VACATION ANYWAYS.
THE DEAL WAS WE'RE NOT TRADING THE ALLEY FOR THIS AREA.
WE TRADED THAT CUTOUT AND THE MONEY WE GAVE TO D.O.T. FOR
IT.
THE ALLEY VACATION, THOUGH, IS A REQUIREMENT OF THEIR FINAL
APPROVAL TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I THINK ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:29:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. MICHELINI SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT.

THE PRESENTATION WAS FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION.
10:29:36AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER THING I SHOULD SAY, WHAT IS YOUR
NAME, RONNIE, COULD YOU JUST TELL US YOUR PROFESSIONAL
CREDENTIALS TOO?
I THINK COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WAS ASKING A LOT OF GOOD
QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU SAID YOUR NAME.
ALSO SAY YOUR PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIALS REAL FAST.
10:29:52AM >> I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
LICENSED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SINCE 1989.
I'VE DONE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:30:06AM >> LET ME ADD SOMETHING BECAUSE HE IS SO NICE.
RONNIE, WHEN WE LOOKED FOR A CONTRACTOR AND BID IT TO GET
SOMEONE TO STABILIZE THE HOUSE, HE SURFACED TO THE TOP.
WE SELECTED HIM.
HE STABILIZED THE HOUSE.
HIS EXCITEMENT IN THE STABILIZATION WAS THE HISTORY THAT HE
SAW IN THE HOUSE.
HE TOLD US THINGS WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW.
A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER, I WENT TO -- SAID, YOU'RE NOT
WORKING NOW.
YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON THE HOUSE, WOULD YOU COME AND
BE ON OUR BOARD.
HE SAID YES.

HE IS THAT VOICE THAT I AGREED THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE
ARE FORTUNATE BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO I HAVE HIM EVERY MONTH, I
CAN CALL HIM ANYTIME OF THE DAY OR NIGHT.
THIS IS COMING UP, WHAT DO WE DO NEXT, MR. WILLIAMS?
AND I'M ASKING HIM.
HE'S IN ESSENCE HIS OWN FORM OF A CONTRACT MANAGER FOR US ON
THE BOARD.
SO WE ARE NOT -- WE THINK THE PROJECT NEEDED OVERALL.
THAT'S WHY I AGREE WITH YOU.
WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO MR. RONNIE.
WE HAVE ACCESS TO ATTORNEY ON OUR BOARD.
WE HAVE CPAs ON OUR BOARD WHO SAY, NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO
DO THAT, YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
YES, WE ARE, AND IF I CAN SAY NOTHING ELSE, THANK YOU, MR.
RONNIE, AND DR. SCOTT HERE, WHO CAME ON WITH US A LITTLE
LESS THAN A YEAR AGO AND JUST WORKED HERSELF TO NO END.
SHE'S JUST BEEN VOTED IN RECENTLY AS VICE-CHAIR OF THE
BOARD.
BUT HEAR THIS.
THAT HOUSE SITS AT 851 ZACK STREET TODAY.
IT WAS NOT THE ADDRESS A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN MR. ROBINSON,
HAD TO SIGN SOMETHING, I THINK 839 ZACK.
HOUSE NEVER MOVED.
ADDRESS CHANGED.
THE HOUSE SITS AT 851.

I PROMISE YOU THAT, ANOTHER STORM WILL NOT COME.
I'M TALKING WITH JASON NOW AGAIN, BECAUSE I MET WITH HIM
THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE SAT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND MET AND
TALKED TOGETHER.
JASON ASKED TO SPEAK WITH US THANKSGIVING AND WE'RE TALKING
TOGETHER AGAIN.
I NEED JASON TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS EASEMENT IS
FOR US TO MOVE.
BUT IF WE DON'T GET IT, FOLKS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO LOSE MONEY THAT WE HAVE, TRY TO RAISE SOME
MORE, BUT IT WILL BE CHEAPER TO BUILD A BRICK HOUSE AND PUT
A FACADE ON THE OUTSIDE.
AND WE WILL SEE THE JACKSON HOUSE AGAIN IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA
THAN TO BUILD THAT HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
AND MY HEART DESIRE IF WE DON'T NEED TO GO TO THAT.
BUT I PROMISE YOU, I PROMISE YOU, IF THE GOOD LORD -- WE'RE
MOVING FORWARD.
WE CAN'T AFFORD TO WAIT.
I AM SO GRATEFUL TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON THAT MET WITH US.
I'M GRATEFUL TO -- I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
SINGLING HIM OUT NOW, SUNSHINE, I CAN DO ONE AT A TIME,
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAND
AND TALK WITH UNOFFICIALLY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AT AN EVENT
AND TALK.
EACH OF THEM ALL SAID THE SAME THING.

YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
WE NEED TO SEE THE HOUSE MOVE.
WHAT IS THE HOLDUP?
WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP?
I HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN THE OTHERS OF YOU THAT YOU HAVE THE
SAME COMMITMENT.
I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMMITTED TO IT.
I CAN TELL YOU OUR BOARD IS AT 200 PERCENT.
DOESN'T BOTHER ME TO STAY UP 5:00 AND GET UP 8 THE NEXT
MORNING TO BE DOWN HERE.
WHY YOU ALWAYS LATE?
BECAUSE I FORGET TO GO TO BED.
I CAN PROMISE YOU, IT'S NOT MOUNT PLEASANT, NOT FAMU, IT'S
NOT MY FAMILY, IT'S THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THEY ASK ME WHAT I MAKE.
I MAKE ONE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TEN YEARS, AIN'T NOBODY PAID ME
YET.
I DO WANT TO SAY I GOT INTO THIS BECAUSE OF CHLOE CONEY.
THE SAME TIME HE SAID WHAT THE MAYOR BUCKHORN SAID, I CALLED
MAYOR BUCKHORN.
I WENT AND TALKED TO HIM.
I SAID WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS ON AT NAACP.
DON'T TEAR THAT HOUSE DOWN.
EVERYBODY WAS ON HERE.

THEN I GET A CALL FROM CHLOE CONEY, CC, AND SHEA GOING TO
TELL ME THAT KATHY CASTOR WANT ME TO DO SOMETHING FOR HER.
AND SHE WANT TO TALK TO ME.
I HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP TALKING WITH CONGRESS WOMAN
CASTOR.
WHAT IT IS.
SHE SAY SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
IT IS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON ME TO DO SOMETHING THAT I GET
PAID A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR AND MY PAYMENT WILL BE
WHEN WE SEE THE HOUSE UP.
10:34:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DR. COLLINS, I HAVE COMPLETE AND TOTAL
FAITH IN YOUR LEADERSHIP.
I KNOW YOU'LL GET THIS DONE.
I HAVE NO DOUBT YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND ALL THE PARTNERS
INVOLVED.
I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT SOONER THAN LATER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:34:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY REFERENCE THE ALLEY
VACATION, I APPRECIATE THE FACT WHAT YOU BROUGHT FORTH IS
YOUR CREATIVE THINKING THAT YOU'LL GET IT DONE REGARDLESS
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I ALSO DON'T LIKE THE FEELING THAT THERE'S EXTORTION GOING
ON REFERENCE TRYING TO GET MORE THAN A PRIVATE ENTITY
DESERVES, TO BE ABLE TO GET YOU GUYS THE ACCESS THAT YOU

NEED.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I AGREE ON, I DON'T NECESSARILY
AGREE THAT WE'RE GOING TO VACATE EVERY ALLEY.
WE FREQUENTLY TURN DOWN ALLEY VACATIONS.
WE ALREADY DID THE F.D.O.T. STUFF.
I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN QUITE A BIT ON THIS MOVEMENT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION ON THAT.
YOU'RE RIGHT SET IN YOUR HEAD ABOUT WHICH WAY TO GO.
STAY STRONG AND KEEP PUSHING FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
10:35:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:35:54AM >> THANK YOU.
THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
HAVE A HAPPY CONTINUOUS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
10:35:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
NOW IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I HAVE A FEW REGISTERED SPEAKERS AND THEN I'LL GO TO THE
SPEAKERS IN THE ROOM.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH FOLLOWED BY LARRY
PREMAK AND AILEEN HENDERSON.
GOOD MORNING, MR. RANDOLPH.
10:36:16AM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
AN ENGAGED COMMUNITY IS AN EMPOWERED COMMUNITY.
ON FEBRUARY THE 24th, DURING A ZOOM MEETING, WE WILL HAVE

OUR NEXT ENGAGEMENT FOR EMPOWERMENT MEETING.
TODAY WE HAD OVER 60 RESIDENTS TO SIGN UP FOR THIS MEETING
IN ADDITION TO NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND PEOPLE FROM AROUND
THE COUNTRY.
I WANT TO EXTEND AN OPEN INVITATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AS
WELL AS IN PARTICULAR AND AGAIN TO THE CAC, BOTH THE MANAGER
FOR WEST TAMPA AS WELL AS THE MANAGER FOR THE WHOLE CAC.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE SILENT MAJORITY OF
RESIDENTS THAT DO NOT ATTEND MEETINGS.
I DO WANT TO ALSO THANK JOE ROBINSON WHO WILL BE ATTENDING
AS WELL AS THE OTHER CAC MEMBERS TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
LAST WEEK, WE GAVE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR ECONOMIC INITIATIVE
THAT FOCUSED ON A.I.
THIS WEEK, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY HELP
INITIATIVE.
HEAVILY BLACK AND HEAVILY UNHEALTHY WHEN IT COMES TO
DIABETES, BLOOD PRESSURE AND OTHER IS A VERY UNHEALTHY
COMMUNITY.
MOST OF THESE ILLNESSES CAN BE CONTROLLABLE OR PREVENTED
BASED -- BUT FOR THE HEALTH.
IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
JUST AS IMPORTANT IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH.
FOCUS ON DATA DRIVEN AND EVIDENCE-BASED APPROACH TO REDUCING
VIOLENCE BASED ON LESSONS LEARNED FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.

ECONOMIC APPROACH TO REDUCING CRIME.
FINALLY, THE WEST TAMPA VIRTUAL COMMUNITY HUB THAT WILL
CONNECT BUSINESSES AND LOCAL RESIDENTS TO DO THINGS.
NATIONAL DISCUSSION THAT WILL BRING WEST TAMPA FRONT AND
CENTER.
IT IS NOT TOO LATE.
PLEASE CONNECT WITH US AT THE WEST TAMPA CDC @GMAIL.COM.
IMPORTANT DISCUSSION, WEST TAMPA CULTURAL CENTER AND RETURN
OF THE YELLOW JACKET.
SHOUT-OUT TO ROBIN LOCKETT WHO REALLY BROUGHT THIS ISSUE TO
THE COUNTRY.
AN ENGAGED COMMUNITY IS EMPOWERED COMMUNITY.
SHOUT-OUT TO THE CDC OF TAMPA, BEST PRACTICE AND I TALK
ABOUT THEM THROUGHOUT THE NATION WHEN I TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:39:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RANDOLPH.
LARRY PREMAK AND AILEEN HENDERSON.
AILEEN IS NOT ON.
MR. PREMAK, ARE YOU ON?
10:39:19AM >> MY NAME IS LARRY PREMAK.
PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON HARBOUR
ISLAND.
I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MR. SHELBY ON HIS

BIRTHDAY.
THE MAN NEVER AGES.
HE MUST BE DRINKING THE SAME FOUNTAIN THAT COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA DRINKS OUT OF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DOESN'T AGE GIVEN HIS JOB.
IN ANY EVENT, I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE TWO PROPOSED
TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT HAVE LINE ITEM
VETO OVER THE LIGHTS.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN ASK THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT A
MORE COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC STUDY THAN THE ONE DURING COVID
FIVE YEARS AGO.
OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BILL OLIVER, WILL PRESENT LATER ON
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, ALTERNATIVES WHICH SHOULD BE STUDIED.
IN FACT, THE MAYOR HAS ADMITTED IN WRITING TO OUR RESIDENTS
THE LIGHTS MAY NOT WORK.
AS A RULE, ISN'T IT BETTER TO MEASURE TWICE AND CUT ONCE?
IN THIS CASE, THE STUDY DONE BY STANTEC IS INCOMPLETE AND
DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL OPTIONS.
IN FACT, IF THESE LIGHTS ARE INSTALLED AS PRESENTED, IT MAY
CAUSE INJURIES OR EVEN WORSE.
WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.
HOWEVER, IF WE PRESENT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN
FRONT OF YOU AND THE MAYOR, I THINK IT DESERVES A SECOND
LOOK.

I'D REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT HARBOUR ISLAND WANTS WHAT IS
BEST FOR THE CITY AND HARBOUR ISLAND.
WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN THE PAST.
THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE FORCE MAIN PROJECT.
THE CITY INITIALLY PROPOSED A REPLACEMENT WHICH WOULD HAVE
CUT OUR COMMUNITY IN HALF.
WE ARGUED THROUGH A THREE PERSON TASK FORCE WITH AN ENGINEER
THAT PERHAPS A BETTER ROUTE MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL
PARTIES.
I WAS PART OF THAT TASK FORCE.
WE WORKED WITH BRAD BAIRD AND ERIC WEISS FOR AN UNDERWATER
SOLUTION WHICH THE CITY NOW BRAGS ABOUT IN TRADE MAGAZINE,
THE SECOND LARGEST IN THE NATION.
WE HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE RANK AND FILE IN THE
CITY, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO PRY OPEN SOME POLITICIANS'
EYES OPEN TO MAKE OUR POINT.
I ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE MEDIANS ON KNIGHTS RUN AND ALSO
BENEFICIAL AS WELL AS THE BRIDGE, WE FINANCED ALL THAT.
WE PAY FOR THE IRRIGATION.
WE'RE NOT HERE WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, HAT IN HAND LOOKING FOR
HANDOUTS.
WE JUST WANT THE PROPER THING TO BE DONE AND STUDIED FOR OUR
ISLAND.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE.
WE'D ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE A MOTION TO ASK THE

MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT ANOTHER STUDY.
IF THEY REFUSE, YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T BE SUED INDIVIDUALLY
BECAUSE THEY IGNORE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS AT THE BASE OF KNIGHTS
RUN AND HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD, THE LIGHTS, THE CITY
LIGHTS HAVE BEEN OUT SINCE SEPTEMBER 26 AND NOBODY SEEMS TO
KNOW WHY.
10:42:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
OUR IN-HOUSE SPEAKERS ARE GOING TO BE BILL OLIVER, JOHN
SOLAR, AND STEPHEN MICHELINI.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:42:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS BILL OLIVER.
I'M A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND FORMER CITY OF
TAMPA TRAFFIC DIVISION EMPLOYEE.
I SHOULD SAY DITTO TO WHAT LARRY PREMAK JUST SAID.
THE CITY STUDY DOES NOT CLEARLY STATE THE PROBLEM THAT'S IN
NEED OF A CURE OTHER THAN TO SAY THERE'S HIGH PEDESTRIAN
ACTIVITY.
THE CRASH REVIEW IN THAT REPORT IDENTIFIES ONE CRASH
INVOLVING A PEDESTRIAN UP AT THE NORTH END OF THE STUDY
SEGMENT AND THREE CRASHES INVOLVING BICYCLES DOWN AT THE
SOUTH END AT KNIGHTS RUN.
THE SOLUTIONS PROPOSED, THOUGH, ARE MOSTLY IN THE MIDSECTION

OF THE SEGMENT.
SO IN MY MIND, THE LACK OF CLEAR STATEMENT OR EVIDENCE OF
ANY PEDESTRIAN VEHICULAR CONFLICT ISSUES AT THE SOLUTION
LOCATIONS DETRACTS FROM ANY URGENCY TO IMPLEMENT A CURE.
AS I MENTIONED IN MY COMMENTS TO YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO,
THE FLORIDA D.O.T. POLICY IS TO CONSIDER ROUNDABOUTS AND
OTHER POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS BEFORE INSTALLING TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
ALSO, THE FEDERAL MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES
CLEARLY INDICATES ONCE WARRANTS ARE MET, AN ENGINEERING
STUDY SHOULD BE UNDERTAKEN TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVES AND
CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS BEFORE SIGNALS ARE INSTALLED.
THE CITY WOULD BE ACTING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FEDERAL AND
STATE GUIDANCE TO INVEST SOME TIME INTO AND REQUEST A MORE
COMPREHENSIVE, LONGER TERM SOLUTION APPROACH.
HARBOUR ISLAND IS SEEKING A MORE THOROUGH CONSIDERATION OF
HOW TO BEST SEPARATE VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS.
THE STUDY SHOULD MAYBE LOOK TO HIRING DISNEY-STYLE
IMAGINEERS WHO ARE MASTERS AT MANAGING PEDESTRIAN FLOWS TO
LOOK AT MORE CREATIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS,
INCLUDING DEVELOPING A SECOND-LEVEL CONCEPT TO PEDESTRIAN
CIRCULATION.
SUCH SYSTEMS DO WORK WELL WHEN WELL DESIGNED.
THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE CONNECTING THE BILL POE PARKING GARAGE
TO THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER WAS A VERY EFFECTIVE SOLUTION
AND GOOD EXAMPLE.

THERE IS AN EXISTING BRIDGE CONNECTING THE CONVENTION CENTER
ACROSS FRANKLIN STREET TO THE EMBASSY SUITES HOTEL AND A
STAIRWELL THAT ALLOWS ACCESS DOWN TO FRANKLIN STREET, BUT
THAT CONNECTION IS NOT VISIBLE, NOR IS IT PUBLICIZED AT ALL.
IT DOES NOT EFFECTIVELY SERVE THE PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS THAT
ARE THERE.
SO HARBOUR ISLAND HAS A PROPERTY TAX BASIS UPWARDS OF
$1.3 BILLION, THE CONVENTION CENTER AND AMALIE ARENA BRING
IN SUBSTANTIAL TOURIST TAXES IT MAKES SENSE TO THINK IN
TERMS OF CONTINUING TO INVEST IN THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE
AROUND THESE WORLD-CLASS FACILITIES.
10:45:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN SOLAR.
STEPHEN MICHELINI.
MENTESNOT.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:45:40AM >> JOHN SOLAR, WITH INSTRUMENTS FOR LIFE, A LOCAL NONPROFIT
THAT SERVES THE YOUTH OF TAMPA BAY.
SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:45:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BECAUSE OF THE MICROPHONE --
10:45:50AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:45:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YEAH, YEAH.
10:45:52AM >> OKAY.
COOL.
SO LAST YEAR, WE STARTED A NEW INITIATIVE CALLED CENTRAL AVE

LIVE.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON ALLOWED US TO PROMOTE THERE AND HAD
FLYERS THERE.
THIS EVENT INVITED COMMISSIONER MYERS, MAYOR CASTOR AND
OTHERS, MR. FRED HEARNS.
WE WERE TEACHING ALL OF OUR HISTORY ABOUT CENTRAL AVE LIVE.
DURING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS, WE HELPED SPREAD THE WORD,
LOCAL MUSICIANS AND SOME STUDENTS PERFORM BECAUSE THEY
LEARNED ABOUT THE HISTORY AND PRESERVING THE HISTORY.
WHEN WE GET TO THIS CURRICULUM AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE
JACKSON HOUSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE JACKSON
HOUSE FOR THAT HISTORY, HOW DO WE TELL THE KIDS THAT?
THAT'S MY TOUGH JOB.
EARLIER I HEARD A QUOTE, WHEN WE ALL DO BETTER, WE ALL DO
BETTER, RIGHT?
THAT FEELS LIKE THE MISSION RIGHT HERE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL
TRYING TO COME TOGETHER.
ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP MANIFEST IT, I AM ABOUT.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP GIVING OUR YOUTH THE KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE THEY
ARE THE ONES CHANGING IT.
BUT THE DIFFICULT CONVERSATION FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY OUR
BLACK YOUTH, THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.
THESE QUESTIONS THAT THEY ASK ABOUT, IT'S INCREDIBLE.
I WOULD INVITE ANY ONE OF YOU ALL TO ANY OF THEIR SHOWCASES
OR ANYTHING WE CAN DO.

I WISH THEY WERE HERE TODAY OR ALLOWED TO BE.
US TRYING TO DESCRIBE WHY WE'RE NOT SAVING THAT HISTORY,
THAT IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING FOR 8-YEAR-OLD OR 18-YEAR-OLD
OR 98-YEAR-OLD.
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT DOING BETTER, BUT IF WE
COULD ALL DO BETTER, I PROMISE YOU OUR KIDS ARE TRYING TO
MAKE LIFE MUSICAL.
THEY'LL SPREAD THE WORD.
SO MANY ADULTS AROUND US THAT DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY, BUT
THESE KIDS, THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT.
I BRING THEM THERE AND WE WALK THERE AND OUR NEXT INITIATIVE
WILL BE AT KID MASON WHICH FINALLY GOT RENOVATED, AND WE'LL
NEVER LEAVE THERE.
WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE TO WALK BY THAT JACKSON HOUSE.
WHEN WE BRING IT BACK, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OPEN JAMS WITH
THOSE KIDS PLAYING IN THERE AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL
THOSE STORIES.
THAT'S WHAT TAMPA DESERVES, RIGHT?
OUR MUSIC HISTORY TO SURVIVE, BLACK HISTORY, ALL OF OUR
HISTORY.
IT'S TAMPA'S HISTORY.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
10:47:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STEPHEN MICHELINI.
MENTESNOT.
MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR.

10:47:57AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING, WHY THAT EASEMENT, RELEASE OF THE
ALLEY IS IMPORTANT.
IT GOES THROUGH THREE CITY BLOCKS.
IT SEPARATES ACCARDI'S PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES.
THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT.
THE JACKSON HOUSE DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS IN THE BACK.
THEY JUST DON'T.
THAT'S AN EXAGGERATION AT BEST.
WHAT THE AGREEMENT TALKS ABOUT IS NOT EXTRACTION.
IT'S NOT STRONG-ARMING.
IT SAYS SIMPLY DON'T OBJECT TO THE REQUEST FOR VACATING.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO GRANT THAT OR NOT.
PREVIOUSLY, WE FILED FOR A VACATING FOR THAT ALLEY AND THE
JACKSON HOUSE AND DR. COLLINS WERE ALL SUPPORTED.
I MET WITH THEM.
I MET WITH GILMORE -- RICARDO -- GILMORE -- HE WAS THEIR
ATTORNEY.
WE HAD AN AGREEMENT UNTIL THE MORNING OF THE HEARING AND
THEY FILED A LETTER OF OBJECTION.
SO WE WITHDREW THAT PETITION.
THEY MET, DR. COLLINS AND THE ATTORNEYS ALL MET IN DECEMBER
AND AGREED ON THE CONTENTS OF WHAT WAS TO BE DONE, INCLUDING
LAND TRANSFERS ADJACENT TO THE SIDE OF THEIR BUILDING TO
GIVE THEM ACCESS AND PARKING.

THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AGAIN, THIS PARKING LOT, WHICH IS
ADJACENT TO THE JACKSON HOUSE SERVES THAT BUILDING, WHICH IS
LEASED.
THIS IS THE PARKING LOT FOR THEM.
THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP SPACES ALONG THIS SIDE AND THE
OTHER SIDE SO THAT THEY DO HAVE ACCESS AND PARKING.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAILS OF ALL OF THE
PROVISIONS OF THE AGREEMENT, BUT DR. COLLINS AND THE JACKSON
FOUNDATION HAVE HAD THE AGREEMENT SINCE DECEMBER, AND IT WAS
REDRAFTED ACCORDING TO THEIR WISHES AND WE HAVE HEARD
NOTHING FROM THEM.
JASON ACCARDI AND THE ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN CALLING THEM.
THEY TOLD ME WEEKLY WITH NO REPLY.
THE ACCARDIS ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS HAPPEN AND
PRESERVING IT, DOING WHATEVER THEY CAN TO ASSIST IN
PRESERVING THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THE REQUESTS THAT HAVE GONE OUT TO THE JACKSON FOUNDATION
HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED AT ALL.
PUTTING THIS ON THE ACCARDIS, SOMEHOW THEY ARE
STRONG-ARMING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SIMPLY, COMPLETELY
INACCURATE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD REQUEST IS THAT PERHAPS ONE
OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD ACT TO HELP FACILITATE THE
CONCLUSION OF THIS MATTER.
NOT IN CAPACITY OF A COMMITMENT BUT IN THE CAPACITY OF

HELPING TO FACILITATE SO THAT WE STOP THIS GOING CROSS-WAYS
ON THE DISCUSSIONS, AND WE GET THE AGREEMENT DONE AND GET
THE JACKSON HOUSE SAVED.
I WOULD HOPE THAT ONE OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD VOLUNTEER
TO DO THAT AND INTERFACE SO THAT WE HAVE THE OPEN LINE OF
COMMUNICATION INSTEAD OF SILENCE.
10:51:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MENTESNOT.
MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR.
MS. CONNIE BURTON.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:51:10AM >> UHURU.
LEARN THE WORD UHURU.
FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
NAME IS MENTESNOT, MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
LIKE SOME PEOPLE ARE SO DISINGENUOUS, THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN
TO STOP.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER, I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
JACKSON HOUSE.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT SAID IS
THE NEW LOUNGE.
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS, NOTHING SAID ABOUT
CENTRAL PARK.

MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE
INVESTMENT RIGHT THERE, RIGHT AT THAT SPOT.
RIGHT AT THAT EXACT SPOT.
WHO SO FAR THE ACCARDI, BACARDIS, WHOEVER THEY ARE, THEY
NEED TO GIVE THAT LAND UP.
THEY NEED TO GIVE IT AWAY.
SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING MORALLY,
SOCIALLY, POLITICALLY, ECONOMICALLY.
FOR WHAT THAT MEAN TO AFRICAN PEOPLE, THEY JUST NEED TO GIVE
THE LAND AWAY AND LET THE PEOPLE AT THE JACKSON HOUSE MAKE
THE DECISION OVER IT.
NOTHING MORE.
NOTHING LESS.
I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I LIKE
TO APOLOGIZE FOR ANY NAME CALLING, CALLING ANYBODY OUT OF
THEIR NAME.
I LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
I LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY STANCE LAST WEEK IN CALLING
PEOPLE GARBAGE BECAUSE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DO IN
TEACHING MY KIDS IS TELL THEM DON'T ALLOW ANYONE TO BULLY
YOU AND DON'T ALLOW ANYONE TO CALL YOU OUT OF YOUR NAME.
I HAVE TO LIVE BY EXAMPLE.
DON'T LET ANYONE CALL YOU THE N WORD.
DON'T LET THEM -- TRY TO EDUCATE THEM.

DON'T LET THEM USE IT AROUND YOU TOO MUCH.
TRY TO EDUCATE THEM.
IF NOT, REMOVE YOURSELF AWAY FROM THEM.
DON'T LET ANYONE PHYSICALLY ABUSE YOU, SEXUALLY ABUSE YOU,
HARASS YOU, NONE OF THOSE THINGS.
THAT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO CALL ANYONE OUT OF THEIR NAME,
TALK ABOUT THEIR RELIGION, TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OF THAT
NATURE.
THAT'S NOT ME BY NATURE.
WASN'T RAISED THAT WAY AND I'M NOT THAT PERSON.
I'M THE KIND OF PERSON THAT HELP PEOPLE IN ANY WAY I
POSSIBLY CAN.
BUT I ALSO LIVE BY THE EXAMPLE OF WON'T BE BULLIED.
WON'T BE PUSHED AROUND.
SO HONESTLY AND TRULY AND SINCERELY LIKE TO APOLOGIZE.
THAT'S NOT ME AND IT'S NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF MY EXISTENCE.
BUT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS CHILD SUPPORT.
I ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT MS. SCOTT OVER AT MEACHAM LEARNING
CENTER.
A LOT OF PEOPLE, MENTIONED -- PEOPLE LIKE THAT IN CENTRAL
PARK.
THE LADY, MS. SCOTT, SHE'S DONE SO MUCH FOR THE AFRICAN
COMMUNITY AND NOBODY EVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HER.
BUT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE NAMES CHARLES DENTON,

ARABELLA CAMPBELL, SABRINA FRYE, AND THE CHILD SUPPORT AREA,
THEY ARE THE KU KLUX KLAN OPERATING RIGHT OVER THERE IN THE
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COURTHOUSE, AND THIS CITY COUNCIL NEED
TO TAKE A LOOK INTO WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
THEY ARE CROOKED AS EVER.
AND THEY ARE PUTTING THE PRESSURE ON BLACK MEN.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM BLACK MEN HAVE IN THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA, CHILD SUPPORT.
10:54:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR.
MS. CONNIE BURTON.
IS IT NICK EWING?
10:54:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
NUMBER 18, THERE IS A GRANT FOR NATURE BASED SOLUTIONS FOR
PICNIC ISLAND.
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE COMMUNITY?
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT TO
ME A YEAR OR SO AGO.
BUT IT IS A HUGE GRANT FOR LIKE $2 MILLION TO DO SOME WORK
OFF OF PICNIC ISLAND.
I WOULD THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
I HAD TO GO TO PAGE 27 OF THE 65 PAGE DOCUMENT IN ORDER TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HELL IT WAS FOR.
NUMBER 30, THAT MOBILITY STUDY HAS BEEN IN MY HANDS SINCE

SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
WE'RE PAYING FOR IT NOW.
I'M KIND OF CONFUSED.
I WANT TO KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED AND WHEN
WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN PLACE BECAUSE WE ARE CURRENTLY
CHARGING LIKE 13 OR 14 HUNDRED DOLLARS.
I DIDN'T BRING THE DOCUMENTS WITH ME TODAY.
AND WE SHOULD BE CHARGING ABOUT $9,000 FOR EACH
SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
SO WE ARE LOSING $800 EVERY TIME SOMEBODY BUILDS A
SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN THIS CITY.
NUMBER 61, ARE THOSE CREDIT CARD USERS PAYING FOR THOSE FEES
OR ARE WE PAYING FOR THEM OUT OF POCKET?
THANK YOU FOR ASKING.
NUMBER 74, WHY WAS THIS REMOVED?
I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BREAKDOWN OF THE SPENDING IN
THIS CITY BY THE DISTRICTS.
HERE'S WHY.
BECAUSE IN SOUTH OF GANDY, NOT SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY
ALONE, THESE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT
SINCE THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAVE SEEN A
$9.3 MILLION JUMP IN TAX DOLLARS.
$9.3 MILLION JUMP.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONE-YEAR JUMP.
NOW, OVER TIME, IT'S GOTTEN TO BE, I THINK IT WAS $14

MILLION THIS YEAR.
FOR THOSE 10,000 PLUS APARTMENTS, MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
I WANT TO SEE WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT.
ALL I CAN SEE IS THAT HARBOUR ISLAND IS GETTING A LIGHT
SHOVED DOWN THEIR THROAT BUT NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING IN MY
COMMUNITY FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HELP US WITH THE PAVING,
WITH THE TRAFFIC, WITH ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT'S
GOING ON DOWN THERE.
SO I WANT TO SEE THE SPENDING HISTORY EVEN IF COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA DECIDED THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO.
I THINK YOU NEED TO ASK FOR IT BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHERE
THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT BECAUSE IT SURE AS HECK ISN'T BEING
SPENT WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM.
NOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT ROME YARD BECAUSE THIS IS MY NEW
FAVORITE THING.
IT WAS APPROVED, THE RFP WAS AWARDED IN 2021.
HERE WE ARE, HANNA STREET WAS AWARDED SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT
ONE.
SIX MONTHS AFTER.
AND IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR TWO YEARS.
AND ROME YARD STILL LOOKS LIKE THIS.
AND SUPPOSEDLY THE GROUNDBREAKING WAS IN MAY OF LAST YEAR.
WHY DOES IT STILL LOOK LIKE THIS?
NOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK OVER THERE.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE LAST TIME I BROUGHT THIS UP

AT CITY COUNCIL, THE ROME YARD WEBSITE WAS DOWN, BUT IT'S
BACK UP NOW.
THEY FIXED THE WEBSITE.
NOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY --
10:57:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:57:34AM >> PLEASE ASK WHY WE DON'T HAVE THESE APARTMENTS BEING
BUILT.
10:57:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:57:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MY NAME WAS MENTIONED.
BETTER TO HAVE IT ALL COMPREHENSIVE IN ONE WITH THE BUDGET
PRESENTED ALL OVER.
I NEVER SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO.
LET ME CLEAR THAT.
10:57:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MS. CONNIE BURTON.
MR. NICK EWING.
MS. VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:57:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
IN THE SPIRIT OF BLACK HISTORY, IF OUR REVOLUTION POLITICAL
ACTIVIST WAS STILL AROUND BY THE NAME OF HUEY PUGH NEWTON,
WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING WHY THE JACKSON HOUSE IS NOT BUILT.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT.
BECAUSE WHAT WE SEE CONSTANTLY IS THIS FORCED REMOVAL
THROUGH POLICY OF ELIMINATING BLACK FACES AND WELL NEW

FACES.
AND IT IS VERY DISGUSTING TO NOTE HOW THE POWERS THAT BE PUT
PLANS TOGETHER THAT SOMEBODY DISCUSSING AS BOB BUCKHORN
WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO BE TORN DOWN, THEN YOU SEE THE
DEVELOPERS BUYING UP EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEVER WANT TO HAVE
THEIR HANDS ON BLACK LIFE TO EVEN THINK THAT THIS BLACK
COMMUNITY WOULD SUPPORT HIM AND HIS REELECTION BID WOULD BE
SIMPLE TO US.
MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
HUEY PUGH NEWTON, WHAT DID HE DO FOR US?
HE WAS ABLE TO PUT FORTH 60 GOOD COMMUNITY PROGRAMS THAT
STILL LASTING TODAY.
THE GOVERNMENT HIJACKED, THE FREE BREAKFAST PROGRAM, SICKLE
CELL ANEMIA PROGRAM, THE HOUSING COOPERATIVE.
WHEN WE HAVE AND WE SUPPORT OUR TRUE BLACK LEADERSHIP, WE
GET THINGS DONE.
SECONDLY, WHAT I CAME HERE FOR TODAY IS TO SAY IN THE
RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE, WE ARE RUNNING INTO SOME BRICK
WALLS THERE.
MOST OF US AIN'T GOING TO SIT AROUND AND JUST GO ALONG
QUIETLY WITH.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE NOT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
I WANT TO READ TO YOU WHAT WE HAVE ASKED THE CITY FOR.
IT SAYS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, A REQUEST IS MADE THAT A
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN EACH OF THE POLICY AREAS COMPLETED,
THE POLICY AREA COMPLETES THE SITUATION ANALYSIS WORKSHOP
THAT CORRESPONDS TO THAT POLICY AREA, PROVIDES IT TO THE
COMMITTEE CHAIR AND ANGELA CHRIS 14 DAYS PRIOR TO THE
MEETING THAT ADDRESSES THE POLICY AREA AND ATTENDS THE
CORRESPONDING MEETING.

AND THE AGENDA AND WORKSHOP ARE ATTACHED AND REFERENCED.
I AM QUITE SURE THAT LUIS VIERA AND THE ATTORNEY WILL BE
ABLE TO ELABORATE ON THAT MORE.
I AM JUST SO UPSET SITTING HERE TODAY.
I AM UPSET LOOKING AT THIS AGENDA AND SEEING THE MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS GOING AT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SOMEBODY SHOULD BE ABLE
TO TELL US HOW DO HAVE LIFE IMPROVED AND THE QUALITY OF
OUR ECONOMIC CONDITION.
IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU ALL TO PASS SORT OF BILLS WHEN
YOU COME ALONG AND SAY, YOU KNOW, TAMPA IS A BETTER PLACE.
GOD DAMN, HOW WILL BLACK PEOPLE PROSPER IN THIS CITY!
IT IS ON ALL OF YOU ALL.
IT IS ON TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS ONCE THE MAYOR HERE AS WELL.
11:01:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
NICK EWING, MISS VALERIE BULLOCK AND MRS. CHLOE CONEY.
11:01:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
NICK EWING, THE AUTHOR OF ARTS AND THROUGH A COMPANY CALLED
ARTISTRY GARDEN.
PLEASURE TO SEE THE COUNCIL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THINGS
HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I'M IMPRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY BEHIND ME REPRESENTING THE
FUTURE OF THIS INCREDIBLE CITY I LIVED IN FOR 25 YEARS NOW
COMING FROM PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA.
I HAVE BEEN PERFORMING MUSIC FOR TWO DECADES.
MANY OF HAVE YOU SEEN THE MUSIC.
PARTICIPATING WITH INSTRUMENTS FOR LIFE FOR THEIR MAKE LIFE
MUSICAL SYSTEM HAPPENING IN CENTRAL TAMPA AND PLEASURE TO
LEARN OF THE HISTORY OF WHAT WE HAVE HAD IN THIS CITY.
I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD IN
THIS PARTICULAR MEETING IS THE FUTURE OF WHAT THE CITY OF
TAMPA WILL SHOWCASE AS HOW THEY CARE ABOUT MUSIC AND ARTS
AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HERE IN THIS AREA.
I REALIZE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, THE SOCIAL HEALTH, AND A
MYRIAD OF OTHER EDUCATIONAL BENEFITS THAT COME FROM BEING
ABLE TO SHOWCASE WHAT ART AND ORGANICS CAN DO FOR A
COMMUNITY.
AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE PURE VALUE
THAT COMES FROM INITIATING NEW POLICY AND CREATING A WAY FOR
THE COMMUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED WHOLLY AND VISIBLY THROUGH
SOUND AND ALL OF WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE A BETTER WORLD.
I FEEL THAT WE ARE AT A CRUX.
WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT WHERE WE CAN REALLY SEE A FUTURE
THAT WE ALL WANT TO SEE IN OUR LIVES.
AND I BELIEVE THROUGH COMMUNICATION ABOVE ALL, WE ARE GOING
TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT SOLUTION.
AND I FIND IT VERY POSSIBLE AMONGST ALL OF YOUR HEARTS AND
THE HEARTS BEHIND ME THAT WE CAN SEE THESE THINGS COME INTO
FRUITION.
AND I WANT TO PLEDGE MY SUPPORT TO THE COUNCIL.
PLEDGE MY SUPPORT TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE BEHIND ME.
SOME ARE NOT HERE.
PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING AND PEOPLE WHO ARE TO COME.
THE FUTURE HOLDS MORE THAN WHAT THE PAST HAS BEFORE US AND
UPON US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT CAN REALLY STAND
THE TEST OF TIME.
SADLY, THE WAY THAT THE JACKSON HOUSE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO.
QUITE LITERALLY, AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, ONE STORM AWAY
FROM BLOWING OVER.
AND I THINK EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM HAS HEARD THE
MUSIC THAT COMES OUT OF THOSE HALLS OF THOSE ROOMS THAT HAS
AFFECTED GENERATIONS BEFORE AND GENERATIONS TO COME.
AND ALL I ASK AND ALL I WANT TO COME SAY ON MY LAST POINT,
WE CAN MAKE A LIFE THAT IS BETTER FOR ALL.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH ARTS.
AND I THINK THAT WITHOUT THAT, WITHOUT THAT FUTURE IN MY
LAST 30 SECONDS, I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT WITHOUT THAT,
PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO HAVE BEEN PERFORMING AND CREATING
ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL BENEFIT FOR THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST
TWO DECADES, I DON'T SEE A FUTURE HERE FOR MYSELF IF I
CANNOT SEE THE HISTORY OF WHAT THE WORLD OF THIS TAMPA
COMMUNITY IS TREATING THE HALLS AND THE MUSEUMS AND THE
PILLARS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED ARTS AS A
STRONGHOLD.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AND I AM
PROUD OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS DOING.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
11:04:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
MISS VALERIE BULLOCK, CHLOE CONEY, MISS DIANE ZIGLER.
11:04:23AM >> VALERIE BULLOCK FROM COLLEGE HILL AND PONCE DE LEON.
THE REASON I SAY THAT.
IT IS HISTORICAL.
I AM NOT FROM EAST TAMPA.
I'M FROM 35 14th STREET, APARTMENT 115, COLLEGE HILL.
THAT THE AREA THAT RAISED ME, THAT REARED ME.
THAT GAVE ME THE FIGHT THAT I GOT IN ME.
WHEN I GET KNOCKED DOWN, I GET BACK UP.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO I LEANED ON TO BECOME THE PERSON
THAT I AM.
AND I AM REAL, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
THIS VALERIE UNAPOLOGETICALLY.
BACK TO THE JACKSON HOUSE.
IT IS A DARN SHAME WE RIGHT HERE AGAIN.
LET'S PLAY BALL.
LET'S DO THIS.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
YOU KNOW IT IS REAL HEARTBREAKING.
IT REALLY IS.
IT SHOULDN'T BE LIKE THAT.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION AND ADMIT
SOME WRONGS THAT WE DID.
COME TOGETHER AND MAKE IT RIGHT.
BECAUSE JUST LIKE THE MUSICIAN SAID, MUSIC IS THE LANGUAGE
THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND.
I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE IN POWER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE -- I CAN'T
FIND ONE -- THE PEOPLE THAT WILL SACRIFICE THE EXISTENCE OF
ORGANIZED HUMAN LIFE SO THEY CAN PUT FEW MORE COLORS INTO
HIGHLY STUFFED POCKETS.
THE WORLD "EVIL" DON'T EVEN BEGIN TO APPLY.
WHEN PEOPLE IN POLITICAL POWER MAKE IT THEIR AGENDA TO
CREATE GENERATIONAL WEALTH FOR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, THEY
NEED TO BE KICKED OUT.
IF I AM A POLITICAL PERSON AND A PERSON IN POWER, IT NEVER
SHOULD BE ABOUT ME.
IT SHOULD BE ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
AND WE ALL SHOULD WALK INTO -- AND WALK IN INTEGRITY,
BECAUSE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE -- THEY ARE HELD AT A HIGHER
LEVEL THAN SOMEBODY LIKE ME.
I MIGHT SAY, YOU SEEN WHAT VALERIE BULLOCK DID?
OH, YEAH, SHE WAS HAVING A BAD DAY.
BUT WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SABOTAGE
SOMETHING AND THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES AS A SHEEP, BUT REALLY
THEY ARE A WOLF.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THEM PEOPLE.
BECAUSE WE GOT TOO DEMOS RUNNING AROUND, DEMOCRAT IN NAME
ONLY, BECAUSE THEIR HERE FOR PERSONAL GAIN.
HOW CAN SOMEBODY GO AGAINST THE JACKSON HOUSE?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT ALL THE LAND AROUND IT, THERE IS A
RAT SOMEWHERE.
SOMEBODY TOLD THEM ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THEY BOUGHT ALL THE LAND, BECAUSE THEY HAD AN AGENDA.
AND WE NEED TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED.
ESPECIALLY TO THE EASEMENTS.
IF WE DON'T GET NOTHING ELSE, WE WANT THE EASEMENTS BACK.
THANK YOU.
11:07:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHLOE CONEY, DIANE ZIGLER, ROBIN LOCKETT, SANDY PARDUE.
THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:07:28AM >> I AM CHLOE CONEY, THE WOMAN THAT WEARS MANY HATS.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, I CAME LAST MONTH
AND YOU APPROVED THE LAND FOR THE EAST TAMPA INTERVENTION
CENTER.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE ONCE THAT IS BUILT, WE WILL
GET GOOD JOBS, MANUFACTURING, CONSTRUCTION AND HOSPITALITY.
I WANT TO STATE THIS MY MENTOR, DON MAXWELL OF KANSAS CITY,
33 YEARS AGO WHEN I STARTED, TOLD ME CHLOE, IF YOU WILL BE A
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, YOU HAVE TO BUY SOME LAND AND OWN
THE DIRT.
NOW IT IS A GHETTO IN EAST TAMPA.
IT WILL BE A GOLD MINE.
I TOOK THAT ON AND MY SON TOOK IT ON AND WE ARE ON THE EAST
TAMPA BUSINESS CENTER, THE BUILDING ON HILLSBOROUGH.
APARTMENTS AND SO ON.
BUT I COME TO SAY TODAY, I WANT TO REMIND SOME FOLKS BECAUSE
I HAVE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE.
I REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
URBAN LEAGUE THAT PUT THEIR MONEY AND THEIR TIME IN BUILDING
A WHITE ELEPHANT ON HOWARD AVENUE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE KNOW WE LOST A HISTORICAL BLACK
ORGANIZATION.
OUR URBAN LEAGUE WAS AROUND 85 YEARS -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE
Y'ALL KNOW THAT, 85 YEARS.
AND OVERNIGHT, WE LOST IT.
THEY LOST ALL THEIR MONEY.
AND THEY CLOSED DOWN.
AND THAT BUILDING -- THAT FACILITY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
BLACK-OWNED -- WAS GIVEN TO THE HILLSBOROUGH EDUCATION
FOUNDATION THAT IS THERE TODAY.
NOW TO THE JACKSON HOUSE AND DR. CAROLYN COLLINS WAS RIGHT.
WORKING WITH CONGRESSMAN CASTOR AND THANK YOU, BILL CARSON
FOR CALLING ME TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS TIME.
I TOOK IT ON AND THANK GOD FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
I WANT TO SAYS IT A SHAME IF WE SIT HERE THE CITY OF TAMPA,
ALLOW THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO THE URBAN LEAGUE
HAPPEN TO THIS JACKSON HOUSE.
I HAVE BEEN KNOWING WILLIE ROBINSON ALL MY LIFE AND HIS
FAMILY.
WE NEED MORE BLACK-RUN ORGANIZATIONS.
WE NEED THE HISTORY OF THE JACKSON'S HOUSE.
NOT ONLY ME, I WANT IT FOR MY CHILDREN AND MY CHILDREN'S
CHILDREN TO SEE THAT WE CAN OWN SOME LAND.
AND WE CAN MAKE AN IMPACT UPON OUR CITY.
SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY TO YOU, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU ALL
SO MUCH.
I THANK THE COUNTY AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
THE VINICKS.
BUT WE CAN DO THIS.
WE CAN DO THIS IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER.
I WILL STAND TALL AND KEEP COMING DOWN HERE TOO BECAUSE WE
REFUSE TO GIVE UP.
I KNOW IT CAN BE DONE.
SO LET'S DO IT.
GOD BLESS Y'ALL.
LET'S DO IT.
11:10:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DIANE ZIGLER, MISS ROBIN LOCKETT AND
SANDY PARDUE.
11:10:25AM >> DIANE ZIGLER AND A HOMEOWNER IN EAST TAMPA AND TO EXPRESS
MAY SUPPORT FOR THE JC NEWMAN PROJECT.
A HISTORIC PIECE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN EAST TAMPA.
IT WILL PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NEW JOBS, REDUCE SLUM
AND BLIGHT.
IT IS A TERRIBLE LOOKING BUILDING.
LOOKS AS BAD AS THE JACKSON HOUSE, MAYBE WORSE.
I REALLY SUPPORT THE FAMILY INVESTING THEIR TIME, THEIR
MONEY, THEIR WORK INTO EAST TAMPA.
AND IT IS A GOOD PROJECT.
AND I -- THEY ARE BRINGING THEIR OWN MONIES TO THE PROJECT
AND THEY NEED EXTRA HELP.
I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT.
AND I HOPE YOU WILL TOO.
11:11:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MISS ROBIN LOCKETT AND SANDY PARDUE IS OUR FINAL SPEAKER.
11:11:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
I WANT TO GO OVER A FEW THINGS.
THIS MORNING IS BUSY.
FIRST OF ALL WITH THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH CHIEF
BENNETT -- CHIEF -- JOHN BENNETT.
I CALL HIM JOHN.
BUT CHIEF BENNETT WITH REGARDS TO MAKING SURE THAT IF WE
FOLLOW A PROCEDURE, THAT HE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE
DATA THAT WE NEED.
I APPRECIATE IT.
THAT'S HELPFUL.
AND AS -- IT CALMS A LOT OF NERVES.
WE PLAN ON DOING OUR PART, AND I APPRECIATE YOU OFFERING
YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO SO.
SECOND, WILLIE ROBINSON.
NAACP.
AGAIN, GREAT MAN AND THANKFUL DR. COLLINS AND THE FOUNDATION
THAT YOU ARE CONTINUING THAT EFFORT WITH THE REBUILD -- THE
RESTORATION OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLY ON IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, IF IT
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE -- BECAUSE WHEN THINGS DON'T MAKE SENSE,
MY MIND GOES CRAZY.
I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO WITH REGARDS TO WHEN THE ZONING
CHANGE -- WHEN IT WENT TO NO LOT SIZE -- OR LOT LINES OR
DEALING WITH THE LINES.
FINDING OUT ALL OF THAT.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, THAT HOUSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
IT IS THE ZONING THAT HAS CHANGED BEFORE IT.
IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL AREA BEFOREHAND.
SO WHEN DID THAT -- WHEN DID IT CHANGE AND WHY WASN'T THAT
AND THE PROPERTY GRANDFATHERED IN?
YELLOW JACKETS.
KEEP COMING UP ABOUT THE YELLOW JACKETS.
I THOUGH WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, BUT I WANT TO KEEP THE YELLOW
JACKETS IN THE FOREFRONT BECAUSE WHAT HAS BEEN SAYING, THIS
ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO BE GONE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND
SOMETHING WITH THE NEED OF THE YELLOW JACKETS, SOMETHING
SHOULD BE PUT FORTH AND STARTED AND THAT SHOULD BE RESOLVED
BEFORE THIS ADMINISTRATION LEAVES.
SO I WOULD LOVE TIMELINES AND SO FORTH.
NOT FOR US TO JUST LINGER ON IT BUT SPECIFIC WHEN THINGS ARE
COMING BACK TO SEE MOVEMENT ON IT.
NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY UPSET
ME LAST -- LAST WEEK WITH CHIEF TRIPP.
YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS -- WHEN CITY COUNCIL BRINGS CHIEF
TRIPP UP HERE.
AND YOU ARE ASKING HER, IN HER DUTY, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO
BE DONE.
YOU GUYS BRING THE UNION UP HERE.
AND THE UNION CONTRADICTS -- I LOVE NICK, BUT THEY HAVE
ISSUES.
HE DOES NOT HAVE TO SOLIDIFY WHAT SHE SAYS.
SHE IS THE EMPLOYEE.
AND SHE IS THE EMPLOYEE.
SO IT IS DISRESPECTFUL FOR YOU GUYS -- FOR YOU GUYS TO ALLOW
THAT.
11:14:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
OUR LAST SPEAKER IS SANDY PARDUE.
11:14:24AM >> I AM SANDY PARDUE.
I LIVE IN THE RIVER ARTS NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSE TO HERE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNING MY POINT.
IT IS A GENERAL POINT.
THE GENERAL POINT IS, IT IS BETTER TO BE PROACTIVE THAN THE
REACTIVE.
THE REACTIVE WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE IS THE PERFECT PROOF OF
THAT.
MY POINTS RELATE TO ABANDONED ISSUES AND IN ALL OF YOU ARE
NEIGHBORHOODS IN TAMPA.
NOT JUST MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT A FEW.
IN EAST, WEST TAMPA, YBOR -- MAYBE NOT TOO MANY IN SOUTH
TAMPA BUT I AM SURE THERE ARE SOME DOWN THERE TOO.
MY QUESTION AND COMMENTS, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE CITY
CODE.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO GET INTO ANY OF THAT, BUT I
JUST KNOW THAT YOU REQUIRE WHEN SOMEBODY BUILDS A BUILDING
OR WHEN SOMEBODY DOES A NEW RENOVATION, THERE IS A
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE.
ONCE A BUILDING HAS BEEN ABANDONED AND SITS VACANT FOR SO
LONG, WHAT DO THE CODES SAY IS REQUIRED OF THE OWNERS OF
THOSE BUILDINGS?
I KNOW THERE ARE NUANCES AND LOTS OF SITUATIONS THAT GO INTO
WHY THESE THINGS ARE CREATED, BUT I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT
THE FACT THAT THE CITY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A WAY TO THE
PROACTIVE IN TERMS OF PREVENTING SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THAT
HAPPEN WITH THIS BUILDING.
THERE OUGHT TO BE A CERTIFICATE OF NONOCCUPANCY THOSE
BUILDINGS HAVE TO PASS.
THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING.
SEEMS LIKE A SILLY THING MAYBE, BUT MAYBE SOME OF THE
SITUATIONS WE ARE SEEING IN OUR CITY WON'T BE SO BAD OR AS
CRITICAL HIGHER STANDARDS FOR THE NONOCCUPIED.
THE DECREPIT ONES, THE ABANDONED ONES, THE MUSIC STORE WHOSE
ROOF COLLAPSED TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO EVEN BEFORE THE
HURRICANE.
BUILDINGS LIKE THAT.
WHAT DOES THE CODES SAY.
DO WE HAVE EXAMINATIONS OF THE CODE PER ODDLY.
OR ARE THEY THERE AND UNTIL A CRISIS HAPPENS.
THOSE ARE MY POINTS.
11:16:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 5 AND 6, BOARD AND ADMINISTRATION
APPOINTMENTS.
MR. SHELBY.
11:16:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THESE ARE THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS.
UNLESS THERE IS ANY DISCUSSION, YOU CAN JUST MOVE THE
RESOLUTION.
11:16:33AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
11:16:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC OF RECONSIDERATION OF
LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
I SEE NONE.
YES, MA'AM.
11:16:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT
NUMBER 6.
WHEREAS, THESE ARE THE APPOINTMENTS BY THE MAYOR BUT FROM MY
UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE QUITE A FEW CITY OF TAMPA APPOINTMENTS
TO THIS.
AND I BELIEVE MR. SHELBY WILL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER.
11:17:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOT THE ENTIRE BOARD.
THE MAYORAL PART.
THERE IS A CITY COUNCIL PART.
11:17:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNEW THAT.
11:17:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
11:17:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAN I TALK JUST BRIEFLY.
I WAS AT THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION MEETING ON MONDAY -- WAS
IT TUESDAY EVENING?
11:17:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TUESDAY.
11:17:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL BE BRINGING UP THEIR MOTION TO FORWARD
THAT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE FOLKS ARE HERE.
OBVIOUSLY DURING NEW BUSINESS FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFO.
THANK YOU.
11:17:45AM >> COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THIS IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR.
11:17:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE 7-14.
11:17:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
FOR THE NEXT COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:18:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE WILL PULL 18 AND 19.
I AM AWARE.
11:18:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU GOT IT.
11:18:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, I MOVE ITEMS 15-17,
AND ITEMS 15-27.
15 WAS REMOVED AS WELL?
15, 18, 19, THE ONES THAT WERE PULLED?
11:18:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
15 WAS REMOVED.
WE ALREADY TOOK IT OFF.
11:18:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
16, 17, 20-27.
11:18:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
11:18:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
SECONDED BY CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
SO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAD PULLED 18 AND 19 FOR A
SEPARATE VOTE AND DISCUSSION?
11:18:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
THE REASON I WANT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION THIS IS A FEDERAL
APPROPRIATION OF $2 MILLION.
BUT WHEN I ASKED MR. ROGERO, A REIMBURSABLE GRANT.
WE DO NOT HAVE $2 MILLION SITTING IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW TO
SPEND ON A PROJECT.
I ASKED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DON'T GET REIMBURSEMENT.
BASICALLY, WE WILL HAVE TO STOP THE PROJECT AND DISCUSS IT
AMONG OURSELVES IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONTINUE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS QUITE A FEW OF THESE PROJECTS THAT
WE HAVE IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT
AND THAT IS THE REASON I PULLED THIS.
NEXT WEEK DURING THE WORKSHOP SESSION, WE ARE HAVING A
CONVERSATION ABOUT BONDING, AND WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION
OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE LEFT OVER FROM FY 2024.
I WANT TO HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO THROUGH THE
MONTHLY REPORT WE JUST GOT WHICH IS ACTUALLY A QUARTERLY
REPORT.
IT IS KIND OF THICK.
BUT IT HAS SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT POSSIBLE
PROPERTY TAX DECREASES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT
ARE DOUBLING, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL WILL HAVE TO
TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK.
I AM PARTICULARLY CONCERNED BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT PROJECT, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T HAVE THE
MONEY?
WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND $2 MILLION?
I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON FOLKS' RADAR, BECAUSE IF WE
SIGN A CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY TO DO THIS WORK, WILL WE
STILL HAVE TO PAY THEM?
AND MR. ROGERO SAID HE WILL STILL HAVE TO ASK LEGAL ABOUT
THAT BUT CONCERNS ME AND IT SHOULD CONCERN ALL OF US.
11:20:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH 18 AND 19?
11:20:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT BECAUSE IT WORKS TOWARDS
STORMWATER.
WE MAY END UP BEARING THE BURDEN -- THIS IS JUST A STUDY.
NOT OUT OF COMES OUT OF THIS.
THE STUDY WILL BE MORE OR WHAT ACTUALLY COMES OUT OF IT.
I WANTED TO BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION NOW BECAUSE WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN D.C.
11:20:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:21:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION IS ALL THESE ITEMS YOU ARE
HOLDING FOR DISCUSSION, CAN YOU TAKE IT OFF AFTER YOU FINISH
THE CONSENT DOCKET.
FINISH THE CONSENT.
YOU PULL THEM FOR A SEPARATE VOTE IS ONE THING.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A POLICY DISCUSSION, PLEASE DO NOT
DO IT WHILE YOU ARE HANDLING THE CONSENT DOCKET.
11:21:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS FINE.
11:21:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL HOLD 18 AND 19.
NEXT UP, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WITH ITEMS 28-36, BUT 36 WAS
PULLED.
11:21:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS THE SAME THING.
I APOLOGIZE.
SAME THING, A POLICY DISCUSSION.
I WILL MOVE ITEMS 28-35.
11:21:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
11:21:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, 37 AND 38.
11:21:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MOVE 37 AND 38.
11:21:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
39-47.
11:21:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MOVE 39-47.
11:21:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:22:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEMS 48.
11:22:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:22:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
11:22:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ITEM 49 HAS BEEN PULLED.
NOW THAT WE HAVE DONE THE CONSENT AGENDA, CAN WE DISCUSS --
11:22:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ANY OTHER ITEMS.
11:22:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM FINE TALKING ABOUT THESE AFTER LUNCH,
BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START
TALKING ABOUT NOW.
11:22:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AFTER LUNCH NOW.
11:22:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY BE ABLE TO GET TO THEM BEFORE LUNCH.
MR. ROGERO IS HERE.
THE THING IS, MR. CHAIRMAN, AFTER YOU HAVE DONE THE CONSENT
DOCKET TO GO BACK DO THOSE HIGH TICKET BUDGET ITEMS THAT YOU
PULLED FROM THE STAFF REPORT FOR A VOTE.
11:22:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 61.
THERE WAS NO REQUEST FOR SOMEBODY HERE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE 61?
11:22:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE 61, 62, THE SUBSTITUTE FOR 63, 64.
11:22:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
MR. SHELBY, DO WE CONTINUE ON WITH 65?
THIS IS REQUESTING STAFF TO BE HERE.
11:23:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAVE THE SECOND READINGS.
11:23:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED FROM CLENDENIN.
LET ME CHECK HERE.
OKAY.
ITEMS -- WAIT.
MIGHT AS WELL SWEAR EVERYBODY IN.
IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS,
PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU
IN.
EVERYTHING 54 AND BEYOND.
[SWEARING IN]
11:23:52AM >> I DO.
11:23:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THESES ARE NONQUASI-JUDICIAL AND START
WITH ITEM 51.
WAIT, IS STAFF HERE FOR 51.
MR. SAMONS.
11:24:12AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, ITEM 51 FILE NUMBER VAC-24-16,
TO VACATE A PORTION OF HILLSBOROUGH RIVER SOUTH OF BIRD
STREET, EAST OF 19th STREET AND WEST OF ROWLETT PARK DRIVE.
11:24:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMONS>
THIS DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 51?
YES, SIR, COME ON YOU UP.
11:24:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
HARVEY HALBERN FOR THE APPLICANT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
EVERYONE IS APPRISED OF THE SITUATION.
11:24:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON 51?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, READ 51.
11:25:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 51, FILE NUMBER VAC-24-16,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING
DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT PORTION OF MULBERRY DRIVE,
LOCATED NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, SOUTH OF BIRD STREET,
EAST OF 19th STREET AND WEST OF ROWLETT PARK DRIVE WITHIN
THE PLATS OF CATHERINE PARK AND FERN CLIFF SUBDIVISIONS
WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS
MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRIKES MORE PARTICULARLY SET
FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
REPEALING CONFLICTS.
PROVIDING SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:26:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:26:06AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
11:26:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 52.
ITEM NUMBER 52.
ANYBODY FROM A?
11:26:21AM >>ELAINE LUND:
HELLO, ELAINE LUND, HISTORIC PRESERVATION
STAFF HERE VIRTUALLY THIS MORNING.
THIS ITEM IS AN ORDINANCE TO DESIGNATE THE DOBY HOUSE AT
1405 WEST AZEELE STREET AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK.
STAFF IS PLEASED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A COMPLETE PRESENTATION
OF THIS ON THE FIRST READING AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
11:26:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT FOR 52.
YOU AND MR. FERNANDEZ.
THERE WAS NO APPLICANT.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 52.
11:26:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:26:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:26:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, READ ITEM 52.
11:27:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING OF THE
DOBY HOUSE LOCATED 1405 WEST AZEELE STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF AS A LOCAL
HISTORIC LANDMARK PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES AND
PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:27:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:27:34AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:27:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 53, COUNCIL MEMBERS
CLENDENIN AND CARLSON OF MISSING AT VOTE.
DID YOU REVIEW THE RECORD?
11:27:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:27:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:27:51AM >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING
COMMISSION STAFF.
ITEM 53 IS A MAP AMENDMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL-20 TO COMMUNITY
MIXED USE 35 AT 801 EAST 26th AVENUE.
WE PROVIDED A COMPLETE INTERVIEW ON JANUARY 30.
11:28:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE.
11:28:08AM >> RYAN MANASSE WITH RYAN AND POPE, DEVELOPER OF PLANNING.
I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT IF NOT, REQUEST YOUR
APPROVAL.
11:28:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
53.
11:28:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:28:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:28:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:28:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, CHAIR.
FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 24-12, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 801 EAST 26th AVENUE, FROM
RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU-35
PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:28:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:28:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:29:05AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:29:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OUR VOTES ARE NOT APPEARING ON THE
CHART.
BUT SHE DID SAY IT LOCALLY -- VERBALLY.
ITEM 54.
WE SWORN EVERYBODY.
11:29:25AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
54, RE-25-12, REZONE 702 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, 2502 AND 2504
N. BOULEVARD AND FOLIO NUMBER 183355-0005, THE REQUEST IS
REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 60, COMMERCIAL
GENERAL, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, ALL
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES.
JUST AS QUICK REFRESHER, THIS CASE WAS BEFORE YOU ON JANUARY
OF '23.
HOWEVER, IT BECAME A FIRST READING INSTEAD OF A SECOND
READING BECAUSE THE APPLICANT NEEDED TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL
REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN.
AFTER WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ADDRESS SOME
CONCERNS, A GATE WAS ADDED ALONG THE ALLEY AND NOTES ADDED
WITH EXTERIOR LIGHTING, CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE USE OF THE
ALLEY, PAVEMENT WIDTH OF THE ALLEY, PRESERVING THE ROOTS OF
THE GRAND TREE FROM A NEIGHBOR ADJACENT AND INSTALLATION AND
OPERATION OF THE GATE.
AND I HIGHLIGHTED THOSE CHANGES FOR YOU HERE ON THE SITE
PLAN.
ALL REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE
BEEN SENT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
11:30:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
APPLICANT MR. MALLOY, COME ON UP, EVEN THOUGH I JUST SAID IT.
11:30:44AM >> WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
BACK HERE FOR THIS LOVELY CASE.
FOLLOWING THIS TO ADD WITH WHAT SAM PRESENTED.
I BELIEVE WE ARE AT COMPLETE PEACE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
RIGHT NOW WHICH WE ARE HAPPY TO BE.
I DO WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL, BECAUSE ABOUT A MONTH AGO
WE WERE ON LIFE SUPPORT HERE.
AND YOUR DIRECTION AND PROBABLY SCOLDING THAT PROBABLY GOT
US TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON 54.
MOTION DO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 54.
11:31:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ-25-12.
ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
ORDINANCE ON IN REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
0672 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, 2502 AND 2504 N. BOULEVARD AND
FOLIO NUMBER 183355.0005 IN CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, IS
SECTION 1 ARE ZONING DISTRICT RS-60 TO CG, AND PD AND PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL USES.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:31:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:32:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONGRATULATION ON A GOOD PROJECT.
11:32:04AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:32:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 55 AND THEN THERE IS A
RESOLUTION FOLLOWING THAT.
YES, SIR.
11:32:11AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 55, REZ-24-52, REZONE 205, 207 AND 209 EAST
COLUMBUS DRIVE.
2301, 2303 AND 2307 AND 2315 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE AND 204 AND 206
EAST AMELIA AVENUE AND FROM RM-24 TO PD AND CI.
JUST AS THE CASE BEFORE, THIS WAS BEFORE YOU ON JANUARY 23
FOR SECOND READING.
THAT BECAME A FIRST READING AGAIN IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT
TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN TO ADDRESS SOME
CONCERNS THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE ADDITIONAL RETAIL ADDED AND
UPDATES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
ADDITIONALLY, A NOTE WAS ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN REGARDING
THE RETAIL IS SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT WILL
NOT BE CHANGED.
ALL THOSE REVISIONS HAVE BEEN GREETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS
HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:33:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, MA'AM.
11:33:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
I REMEMBER THE CHANGE WAS REALLY THEY JUST TOOK A LITTLE BIT
OF THE LOBBY AND MADE MORE RETAIL SPACE.
THAT WAS THE ACTUAL CHANGE.
CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT?
11:33:29AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
YES, MA'AM, SO THEY INCREASED THE RETAIL
SQUARE FOOTAGE UP FROM 4500 TO 5500 SQUARE FEET.
THEY MADE THAT CHANGE ON THE SITE PLAN TO INCREASE THE
RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
11:33:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BY 500 SQUARE FEET?
11:33:43AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
1,000 SQUARE FEET.
11:33:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
1,000, THANK YOU.
11:33:46AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
UPDATED THAT THERE, THERE, AND THE CHANGE
NOTE THAT THE SQUARE FOOT AND OF THE RETAIL COULD NEVER BE
CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
11:33:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
11:33:58AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
YES, MA'AM.
11:34:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. HUDSON, COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:34:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD TO SAM'S THOROUGH OVERVIEW.
11:34:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE AND --
11:34:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:34:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:34:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
55.
11:34:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:34:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
BEFORE WE READ IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, GO AHEAD.
11:34:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS WAS A DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME AS I SAID
IN THE FIRST READING WHEN I VOTED AGAINST IT AND CHANGED ON
THE SECOND ONE AFTER THE APPLICANT CAME BACK WITH -- WITH --
I MEAN, REALLY A VERY SMALL CONCESSION WHICH IS PART OF THE
REASON YOU SEE SOME OF THE NO VOTES ON THIS.
BUT I DID WANT -- AGAIN, I KIND OF JUST TILTED A LITTLE BIT
IN FAVOR OF THIS, BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A CONSEQUENTIAL
PROJECT.
AND THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING BEING PROVIDED AND THE QUALITY OF
THE PROJECT WAS GOOD.
SO I WOULD RATHER HAVE SEEN A MORE TRADITIONAL-LOOKING MIXED
USE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS.
AND I THINK WHY I WANT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE FOLKS WHO ARE
LISTENING, WHEN YOU ARE COMING TO US ON THE KEY TRANSIT
CORRIDORS, KEY INTERSECTIONS AND CORRIDORS, HOW WE ENVISION
WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL LOOK LIKE.
MUCH MORE MIXED DEVELOPMENT AND THE SERVICE COMPONENT AS
WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND COME FORWARD WITH PROJECTS, WE ARE
GOING TO EXPECT MORE.
AND, AGAIN, I AM -- I AM OKAY WITH THIS ONE.
BUT -- WE I SAY BARELY, I MEAN BY A HAIR -- BY A HAIR I AM
BARELY OKAY WITH THIS.
I WOULD RATHER SEE MORE.
BUT I WILL SAY YES TO THIS ONE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF
RESIDENCES.
QUALITY CONSTRUCTION.
WOULD I WOULD -- IF IT WAS MY PROJECT, WOULD I LIKE TO SEE
IT A LITTLE BETTER, WHY HE, BUT I WILL VOTE YET.
11:36:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND HENDERSON.
11:36:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS WHY I AM VOTING NO.
SUCH AN IMPORTANT CORNER.
EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU PASS THAT BUILDING, IT WILL BE A
REGRET.
THAT IS WHY I HAVE TO BE SO VOCAL ABOUT THIS.
BECAUSE THE ONE -- THE PROJECT THAT WE JUST APPROVED FOR
SECOND READING WENT BACK AND WORKED AND GOT IT RIGHT.
AND THAT -- EVEN THOUGH IT IS A SHORTER AND SMALLER
DEVELOPMENT, WILL BE REMEMBERED AS A MUCH BETTER
DEVELOPMENT.
IT WILL.
IT IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE.
BECAUSE THAT BUILDING FITS IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE OTHER ONE IS FITTING A SUBURBAN-TYPE DEVELOPMENT INTO AN
URBAN CORE.
I DON'T EVEN THINK THERE IS REMOTELY A HAIR.
A HUGE LEAP.
VASTLY DIFFERENT.
I COULDN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU MORE.
11:36:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:36:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID
BECAUSE I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I THINK FOR ME, THIS IS TRULY A MISSED OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE
THIS PROPERTY LITERALLY DOES SIT IN THE COMMUNITY OF TAMPA
HEIGHTS.
AND WHEN IT INITIALLY WAS PRESENTED ABOUT STOREFRONT, YOU
KNOW, I WAS DISAPPOINTED WHEN ONLY LESS THAN -- THE 5,000
SQUARE FEET CAME BACK AND THAT IS WHAT WE VERBALIZED BECAUSE
IT IS SITTING IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA ON A TRANSPORTATION
CORRIDOR THAT MAKES IT WALKABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT NOT
MUCH THERE IN THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND WE CLEARLY INDICATED THAT.
AND SO TO COME BACK AND TALK A LITTLE BIT OF THE LOBBY,
YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO SATISFY US.
IT WAS REALLY, FOR ME, DISINGENUOUS, AND I CANNOT SUPPORT IT
FOR THAT REASON.
IT IS NOT ENOUGH THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE YOU ARE ASKING FOR SO MUCH.
YES, THERE WAS A STEP DOWN BECAUSE OF THE BACK NEIGHBORS
PROPERTY.
THAT WASN'T ENOUGH.
MISSED OPPORTUNITY WAS THE STOREFRONT MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE
TO THE COMMUNITY, AND I AM JUST DISAPPOINTED.
THAT IS WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
SO I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AS WELL.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER PROJECT, WHICH I ACTUALLY
FLIPFLOPPED ON IF YOU ALL REMEMBER.
AND IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC THAT I DID THAT, BECAUSE IT FORCED
THEM TO GO BACK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE
COMMUNITY AND CLEAN UP THAT ONE PIECE THAT WAS VERY
IMPORTANT.
THIS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THAT.
THANK YOU.
11:38:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 55?
11:38:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NUMBER 55, FILE NUMBER REZ-24-52, ORDINANCE
FOR SECOND READING ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
GENERAL VICINITY OF 205, 207 AND 209 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
2301, 2303, 2307, 2315 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE, 204 AND 206
EAST AMELIA AVENUE AND FOLIO NUMBER 191272-000 IN THE CITY
OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED THIS SECTION
1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-24 RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY AND CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:39:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:39:39AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, HENDERSON AND HURTAK
VOTING NO.
11:39:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHO WISHES TO MOVE THE REVIEW HEARINGS.
11:39:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO MOVED.
11:39:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
11:40:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND
SECOND FROM CARLSON.
DO WE DO IT OR DO A ROLL CALL.
11:40:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
11:40:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:40:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO.
11:40:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:40:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:40:14AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:40:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:40:16AM >>CLERK:
MOTION VOTED YES WITH HURTAK, HENDERSON AND MIRANDA
VOTING NO.
11:40:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOR ITEMS 56 AND 57, DID YOU REVIEW
THE RECORD?
11:40:37AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:40:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SIR, YOU ARE UNMUTED.
LEO, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
NO, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
IF HE MUTED ON HIS END.
IT IS ON YOUR END.
CAN YOU HEAR US?
11:40:56AM >> YES.
11:40:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOW WE GOT YOU.
GO AHEAD.
11:40:59AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
GOOD MORNING, LEO DEBARDELEBEN.
LOCATED AT 1901 EAST 67th AVENUE, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, LARGE
VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND
PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATION REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
PLAN CERTIFIED AND A COPY AVAILABLE TO THE CLERK AND I AM
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:41:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS.
11:41:40AM >> COLLIN RICE.
WEST CASS.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
WITH LEO, TO CLARIFY, NO PACKAGE SALES BEING PROPOSED.
JUST WANT TO MAKE IT ALL CLEAR.
NO PACKAGE.
11:41:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:41:54AM >> I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND SUBMITTED, AND I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:42:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:42:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS THE ONE WITH THE RESTAURANT ON THE
ROOF.
11:42:05AM >> YES, MA'AM.
11:42:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WAS THAT ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN, THE HOURS.
11:42:08AM >> I CAN SHOW YOU THE CONDITIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
11:42:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
I CAN ASK LEO AS WELL.
BUT, OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT.
11:42:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYTHING ELSE.
IF NOT, ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON 56?
A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
11:42:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I -- YOU WANT ME TO DO IT AFTER THE
MOTION.
I WANT TO SAY I REVIEWED THE RECORD OF IT.
STAFF FOUND IT INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK.
AND WE WAIVED IT.
IF THIS WAS -- YBOR IS A NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS A COMMUNITY.
AND WE WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS DENSITY OF -- OF ALCOHOL LICENSE
WITHIN ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.
11:42:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
11:42:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU, FILE NUMBER AB 2-24-46, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ABORTION TAMPA
SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE
VENUE CONSUMPTIONS ON-PREMISE ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE
SALE OF RECORDING OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN
LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED 1901 EAST 7th AVENUE,
TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION, ALL
ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED.
REPEALING AB 21-16-28 PROVIDING BE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:43:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:43:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORDD YOUR VOTE.
11:43:46AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:43:51AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
DEBARDELEBEN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 57, AB 2-24-49 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2501 WEST BUSCH
BOULEVARD.
REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISES
ONLY.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND
CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND
PROVIDED TO THE CLERK, AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:44:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPLICANT.
MR. HUDSON.
11:44:23AM >> TYLER HUDSON FOR THE RECORD.
LEO SAID IT AS WELL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, THANKS.
11:44:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:44:31AM >> ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK?
MOTION BY MR. CLENDENIN.
AND SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:44:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 57.
11:44:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM FILE NUMBER AB 2-24-49, ORDINANCE
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE
APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES SMALL VENUE ONLY FOR A CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF
LAND LOCATED 2501 WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD AND UNIT NUMBER 5A
TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2
PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
BE REPEALED.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:45:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
11:45:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:45:22AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:45:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
11:45:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I TALK ABOUT THAT -- WE HAVE 15 MINUTES.
IS IT OKAY IF I BRING UP THE REST OF THE STUFF NOW?
11:45:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE 58 AND 59
LET'S SEE HOW WE DO WITH THIS.
58.
MR. BRODY.
11:45:41AM >>CARL BRODY:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
HERE FOR FIRST READING ON AN ORDINANCE CREATING AN EVENT
ZONE FOR THE FINAL FOUR EVENT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, TONY MULKEY, DIRECTOR OF PARKS
AND REC ARE HERE.
11:46:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE
ITEMS.
11:46:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL MADE A MOTION TO OPEN IT UP FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT INDIVIDUALLY ON FIRST READINGS AS WELL.
11:46:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. MULKEY, ANYTHING TODAY?
11:46:14AM >>TONY MULKEY:
TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE SIMILAR TO NATIONAL EVENTS THAT
ESTABLISH GUIDELINES FOR ACTIVATION OF THE PUBLIC SPACE
AROUND THE TIME OF THE EVENT.
TO PROTECT CONSUMER AND PROTECT THE EVENTS COMING IN FROM
AMBUSH MARKETING, COUNTERFEIT MERCHANDISE, THINGS LIKE THAT
THAT GET ATTRACTED DURING THIS.
A LOT OF IT IS REINFORCE WHAT IS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS, BUT
JUST KIND OF CLARIFYING PROCEDURES FOR ANY KIND OF OTHER
EVENTS THAT WANT TO COME IN.
11:46:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 58?
11:46:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:46:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:46:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:47:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE DESIGNATING TAMPA AS AN EVENT TO REGULATE
ACTIVITIES APRIL 2, 2025 THROUGH APRIL 7, 2025 IN
PREPARATION FOR HOSTING THE 2025 NCAA WOMEN'S FINAL FOUR
DESIGNATING GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES, DATES AND TIMES FOR THE
EVENT ZONE, REGULATING AND PROHIBITING TEMPORARY OUTDOOR
ACTIVITIES, TENTS, SIGNAGE AND COMMERCIAL PROMOTION AND THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PROVIDING FOR INSPECTIONS AND PERMITS.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:47:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:47:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
11:47:44AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MARCH 27, TO 2025 AT 10 OKAY
A.M. AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 05 E. KENNEDY.
11:47:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 59 SAYS SEE ITEM 71 THAT TALKS
ABOUT FRANKLIN STREET.
YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:48:07AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
EMMA GREGORY WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I HAVE THE PARKING DIRECTOR HERE.
TODAY WE ARE HERE FOR ITEM 59.
THIS IS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING TO AMEND
SECTION 15-104 TO INCLUDE THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD AREA.
THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO ITEM NUMBER 71 WHICH IS COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK'S MOTION.
IT DOES EXACTLY WHAT THE MOTION HAS REQUESTED.
SO WE ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
MR. FREDERICK.
11:48:37AM >> PARKING DIVISIONS MANAGER.
11:48:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE 1,000 PHONE
CALLS FROM MY OFFICE.
MY AIDE BRINGS YOUR NAME UP ALL THE TIME AND YOU ARE SUPER,
SUPER HELPFUL.
THANK YOU FOR BEING SO HELPFUL TO ANY CONSTITUENT ISSUES.
YOU ARE ALWAYS THERE.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
11:48:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS.
THIS IS THIS ALSO THE ENTIRE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER OR
JUST THIS SPECIFIC ONE?
11:49:06AM >> THIS IS JUST -- CITY OF TAMPA PARKING DIVISION.
THIS IS SPECIFIC TO ADDING THE FRANKLIN STREET.
11:49:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE OTHER CONVERSATION WILL COME UP LATER.
11:49:16AM >> YES.
11:49:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE YOU MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE REST OF THE PARKING CHANGES COMING
FORWARD THAT WILL ALSO HELP OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU.
11:49:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
11:49:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK FRED AND STAFF AND
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR FINDING THE SOLUTION.
IT WAS HEARTBREAKING STORY IN THIS SITUATION.
AND THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTION.
11:49:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC -- COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON?
11:49:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
KUDOS.
11:49:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
READY TO READ.
11:49:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
KUDOS BECAUSE YOU CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION,
AND I REALLY APPRECIATED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS A WIN.
11:49:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK ON 59?
A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:50:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:50:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:50:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:50:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, CHAIR, I MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2025-8
CHAPTER 15.
ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATED TO CHAPTER
15, PARKING, ARTICLE II, REGULATIONS, PERMITS, PENALTIES
AMENDING 15-104, RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT ONLY PROVIDING
FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:50:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:50:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
11:50:42AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MARCH 27, 2025 AT 10:00 A.M. IN
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, FLORIDA,
FLORIDA, 33602.
11:50:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY.
11:51:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
RESOLVES ITEM 71 ON YOUR AGENDA.
11:51:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVE ITEM 71.
11:51:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
11:51:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, THEN NEVER MIND.
11:51:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM 71.
11:51:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECEIVE AND
FILE 71.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A PROMISE FOR YOU.
IF WE BREAK FOR LUNCH NOW, CAN WE START UP AT 1:30 WITH YOUR
ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WILL GET IT DONE IN NINE MINUTES.
11:51:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GIVING YOU A WORKOUT TODAY.
I APOLOGIZE.
BUT WAIT HERE.
I WILL TALK TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND.
11:51:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH, SAM WHO WAS
JUST HERE IS ALSO HAVING A BIRTHDAY.
11:51:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOW!
11:51:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WISH EVERYBODY WHO IS HAVING A BIRTHDAY.
WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.

01:33:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
01:33:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
01:33:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
01:33:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
01:33:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
01:33:29PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:33:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE PULLED SOME ITEMS.
START OFF WITH 18 SAND 19.
01:33:40PM >> WE HAD A LITTLE CONSERVATION BEFORE OF THE FACT THAT THIS
IS FEDERAL MONEY.
AND WE AREN'T REALLY SURE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE FEDERAL
MONEY WENT AWAY.
MR. ROGERO WAS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ME IF THIS IS LEGAL.
NOT TO SAY THIS ISN'T A GOOD PROJECT, BUT SOMETHING WE ALL
SHOULD CONSIDER.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH FEDERAL MONEY.
01:34:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, AFTERNOON, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
A NO MATCH GRANT AND APPROPRIATES THE FUNDING ALSO BASED ON
THE AGREEMENT FOR PICNIC ISLAND PROJECT.
FURTHER TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S COMMENTS, YES, A
REIMBURSABLE GRANT.
WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY BEFORE WE GET THE MONEY BACK.
AND THIS IS AN INTERESTING TIME, IS IT NOT.
THAT IS BEING -- ME BEING A LITTLE DIPLOMATIC IN TERMS OF
WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT COUNT ON FROM FEDERAL FUNDING RIGHT
NOW.
A PASS THROUGH, SO FEDERAL MONEY BUT COMING THROUGH THE
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.
SO YOU GOT TWO COMPONENTS.
OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE, THE FDEP AND YOU HAVE WHATEVER
AGREEMENT THE STATE HAS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
IN DISCUSSION WITH LEGAL AND THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE, WE ARE AS SECURE AS WE CAN BE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OUTCLAUSES WITHIN THE AGREEMENT WHICH
SEEM TO SECURE US FOR ANY WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE AND HAVEN'T
BEEN REIMBURSED YET.
JUST MAKING IT UP IF WE GET HALFWAY THROUGH AND THE FUNDING
IS PULLED, THEN I CAN THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE A
DECISION AS TO HOW HIGH OF A PRIORITY IT IS.
DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH CITY MONEY OR TRY TO FIND OTHER
GRANT MONEY.
WE ARE AS SECURE AS IT CAN BE IS THE SHORT SUMMARY.
01:35:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS I THOUGHT WE SHOULD
TALK ABOUT.
01:35:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU SAY WE HAVE OUTS?
AN OUT?
01:35:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AN OUT CLAUSE, TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE
WHERE ONE PARTY GIVES NOTICE TO ANOTHER PARTY.
AND I THINK IT IS 60 DAYS TO -- TO PAY ALL THE BILLS, TO
BRING EVERYTHING UP TO SPEED IF WE ALREADY HAVE DONE WORK.
BUT, AGAIN, THAT IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE STRENGTH --
01:35:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SAFETY NET.
01:35:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
WE DON'T HAVE A MONEY SAFETY NET.
01:35:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THIS IS A -- AN INTERESTING TIME.
THERE IS A LOT OF VAGARIES IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AT THIS POINT WILLING TO CONTINUE TO COMMIT TOO.
WE HAVE MADE IT AS PROTECTED AS WE CAN.
WHEN I SAY "WE" REVENUE AND FINANCE, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
BUT THERE DON'T APPEAR TO BE ANY HARD AND FAST RULES AT THIS
TIME.
01:36:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:36:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, HAS
MENTIONED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC
CLIFF OR TAX CLIFF.
I SAW FLYERS THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE ASKING
PEOPLE TO REDUCE THEIR TAXES BECAUSE OF STORMS.
DO -- I KNOW YOU WILL BE PRESENTING NEXT WEEK, BUT DO YOU
HAVE ANY LINE OF SIGHT YET AS TO WHETHER REVENUES WILL BE
DOWN NEXT YEAR?
01:36:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
RIGHT NOW -- WE WILL PRESENT MORE IN DETAIL
NEXT WEEK.
NOT AT THIS TIME.
WE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE
WE TALKED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
A LOT OF X FACTORS.
WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE WERE COLLECTING BASED ON WHAT WE
COLLECTED LAST YEAR, AND THAT LOOKED VERY POSITIVE AND PRIOR
TO THE VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARDS AND QUITE A LONG LIST OF
THOSE WHO WANT THEIR VALUATIONS REVIEWED.
THERE IS ALSO THE -- THE UNKNOWN AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE
IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, THERE WAS A CAVEAT IF YOU
WERE OUT OF YOUR PROPERTY FOR 30 DAYS, THEN YOU GET -- I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU GET IT ALL REMOVED FROM MEMORY, BUT YOU DO
GET A DISCOUNT.
SO THEY ARE STILL -- THEY ARE STILL COLLECTING ALL THE
INFORMATION OVER THERE.
WHAT WE HAVE GOT SO FAR LOOKS POSITIVE, BUT THERE IS STILL
-- WE WILL TRY TO BRING YOU MORE INFORMATION NEXT WEEK.
BUT NOBODY REALLY HAS A FIX ON IT RIGHT NOW, SIR.
01:37:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU KNOW ANOTHER THING THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL
NEXT WEEK.
NOT TO HOLD YOU TO THIS, BUT SINCE THE STATE IS TALKING OF
DOING AWAY WITH PROPERTY TAXES, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO KNOW
HOW MUCH WE -- EXTRA WE WOULD HAVE TO CHARGE IN SALES TAX TO
COVER FOR IT.
01:37:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I WILL SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT.
01:38:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
8, 8.5, WHATEVER IT IS OR INSTEAD CHARGE 15.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS, BUT INTERESTING TO KNOW
THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL START ASKING.
01:38:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, THANK YOU.
01:38:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
YES?
01:38:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MEAN, I THINK WHAT I AM JUST HEARING
THAT LEGAL ADVICE IS --
[ INAUDIBLE ]
-- SORRY, I THOUGHT I WAS GETTING A COLD THIS MORNING.
AND TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE JUST WITH -- WITH TAKING THIS
ACTIONS.
I MOVE ITEM 18 AND 19.
01:38:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:38:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ASK HER TO COME UP WITH AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
I -- I DON'T KNOW THAT -- I KNOW THAT THIS IS COST
EFFECTIVE.
AND GIVEN THIS IS THE UTILITY SERVICES TAX CAPITAL PROJECT
FUNDS, A LOT WE CAN DO WITH $300,000.
FOR 600,000 OCCURRING AT THE SAME FACILITY.
01:40:05PM >> THERE IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE SOLAR EQUIPMENT.
01:40:29PM >>THE SAME COMPONENTS.
01:40:30PM >> BECAUSE NOT GUARANTEED TO WIN AT WAR.
AND ABUSED NATURE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
AIR CONDITION IS FINE.
WASTING WATER IS FINE.
NOT WITH SOLAR IS EVEN IF.
USING MORE WATER THAN YOU NEED IS FINE.
AND KEEP ON DOING THE FINE THINGS AND AT THE END OF YOUR
LIFE CYCLE WHEN IT IS MY AGE, WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
WE WILL BE BETTER OFF.
OR YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE BETTER OFF.
SO IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT THE COST IS.
IT IS ABOUT WHAT THE COST AND THE RAMIFICATIONS NOT DOING IT
IS EQUALS SUM -- THAT IS GREATER OR SMALLER THAN THE ACTUAL
CAUSE.
I LOOK AT MATH A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
IT IS NOT ABOUT ALL SAVING MONEY.
IT IS ABOUT REALLY SAVING YOURSELF.
WHEN YOU SEE THINGS HAPPENING NOW, ESPECIALLY IN THIS FORM
OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE, WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO
DO THINGS DIFFERENT.
MAYBE IT WORKS.
I AM NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T.
THEY ARE GOING TO MORE THAN LIKELY ALL THE BENEFITS OF
GETTING A ELECTRIC CAR AND 3,000, 5,000, 7,000, WHATEVER IT
IS.
AND THEN, THE CHARGING PORTS.
CUT THE FUND OUT AND PUTTING MORE AND MORE CHARGING PORTS.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THEM.
BACK TO THE OLD WAYS?
EVEN HORSES AND COWS, MANEUVER, THEY TO DO THE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT WE STILL ARE GOING TO HAVE IT.
I AM NOT SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE IT.
EVEN THE PRICE OF EGGS HAS GONE UP.
SO IT IS -- IT IS A WIN SITUATION AND A LOSS SITUATION AT
THE SAME TIME.
I AM NOT TELLING PEOPLE TO DO WHAT I DO.
I AM JUST SAYING YOU GO THE TO WAKE UP AND LOOK AROUND,
BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE TODAY YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SEE
TOMORROW.
IF THOSE STORMS COME BACK, AND THAT STORM, THE LAST ONE,
MILTON, IT COULD HAVE COME 10, 15 MILES THIS WAY.
MAYBE WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS BUILDING TODAY.
AND WE HAVE TO BE FORTUNATE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED --
UNFORTUNATE FOR PEOPLE WHO GOT HURT.
IF THEY COME THIS WAY, 50% OF THE TAMPA AREA WILL BE
REBUILT.
LOOKED WHAT HAPPENED IN KENTUCKY THE OTHER DAY AND IN TENNESSEE.
IT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND ANYWHERE YOU GO, NOT FOLLOWING
LOOK AT IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGE.
I GAVE UP FOR FIVE MINUTES.
BUT THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:45:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:45:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHILE EMPATHETIC WITH THE POINTS THAT
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
AFTER HEARING COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I HAVE TO AGREE, WE HAVE
SO MANY UNMET NEEDS IN THE CITY.
I MEAN, JUST SO MANY UNMET NEEDS IN THE CITY AND WHEN YOU
BALANCE THESE THINGS OUT, IT IS NOT -- THAT THIS IS NOT A
NICE TO HAVE THING, BUT WE HAVE NEEDS IN THE CITY AND
ESPECIALLY WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND SERVICING OUR KIDS
AND AFTER-SCHOOL CARE AND ISSUES WITH SILVER SPRINGS.
AND THE -- I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE MEET ALL THOSE NEEDS, WE START FILLING
IN.
ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE NEEDS HAVE BUCKETS FULL, I WILL SUPPORT
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ON THIS AND I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS
ONE.
01:46:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYONE ELSE?
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SHE HAD SPOKEN FIRST.
01:46:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I KIND OF GO WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN SAID, THAT I AM VERY -- NUMBER ONE, WE ALL
APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, NOT JUST HIS WORDS AND
PASSION BUT LIVING -- LIVING HIS LIFE CONSISTENT WITH HIS
DEEDS.
IT IS ONE THING TO SAY I AM LIBERAL ON THIS ISSUE.
ANOTHER THING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT OUT OF YOUR POCKET BOOK
AND MAKE LIFESTYLE CHANGES AND EVERYTHING AND I REALLY
APPLAUD COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I SAY THAT FOR A GUY THAT DRIVES A CHEVY PICKUP TRUCK.
I AM APPLAUDING THAT 100%.
IT IS A CAR.
A GAS THING.
I REALLY APPLAUD HIM FOR THAT.
BUT WHEN I WILL LOOK AT CHANGE ON THIS ISSUE, IT -- THE REAL
-- THE REAL EFFECT THAT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA IS --
IS PASSIONATE ABOUT IS TO GET TO IS NATIONAL CHANGE, KIND OF
STUFF WE HAVE BEEN LEAVING AS THE UNITED STATES MORE AND
MORE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS OR SO.
AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT THERE IS A SAYING WHICH IS, YOU
THINK GLOBALLY AND YOU ACT LOCALLY AND HE IS ACTING LOCALLY.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN TALKED IN A LAND USE HEARING.
50/50.
I WILL OPPOSE IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR NEEDS THAT ARE
IMMEDIATE HERE IN THE CITY.
WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL FUND AVAILABLE
NEXT WEEK.
WE HAVE PEOPLE -- AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALL 100%
SYMPATHETIC.
SOMETHING OF HOMES AND SO FORTH AFTER HELENE AND MILTON.
I THINK IT IS -- YOU KNOW 2011, 35% VOTE FOR CURRICULUM
MOTION.
THANK YOU.
01:48:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:48:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DIDN'T -- THING -- I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS
THAT MADE ME CONCERN IS IT IS NOT MAKING THIS FACILITY.
IT IS NOT MAKING IT FREE AND BRINGING IT DOWN 40% TO 50% OF
THE COST AND THAT IS THE PART THAT REALLY WORRIED ME.
BECAUSE WE ARE STILL HAVING TO PAY UTILITIES FOR THIS.
AND, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS,
BUT WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM MAKES IT -- THAT WE CAN
USE IT FOR OTHER THINGS.
THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM SOME LOCAL OPTION TAXES, UTILITY
SERVICES TAX -- CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND THAT CAN REALLY GO
FORWARD A TON OF DIFFERENT STUFF, BUT CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE
THINGS THAT RIGHT NOW WHEN WE LOOKING AT ALL THE STUFF THAT
IS GOING ON WITH THE HURRICANES.
I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE -- WHEN WE ARE LOOKING
AT MONEY NOW BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHAT IS
COMING, WE ALL OWE IT TO THE CITIZENS TO LOOK MORE CAREFULLY
AT WHERE IT IS GOING.
THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP.
I OFTEN WONDER IF AGAIN THE OPPORTUNITY, WOULD -- WOULD THIS
COMMUNITY CENTER WANT SOMETHING ACTUALLY FOR ITS CENTER
INSTEAD OF SOLAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ASKED.
01:49:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:49:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT THEY WANT.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT I THINK ANY -- ANY THING THAT WE
SPEND MONEY ON NOW, THE TEST HAS TO BE, WHY ARE WE NOT
FIXING PEOPLE'S ROADS.
A BASIC SERVICE OF GOVERNMENT TO FIX PEOPLE'S ROADS AND THEY
ARE NOT FIXED.
AND THIS IS -- THIS IS IMPORTANT IN THE LONG RUN AS COUNCIL
MEMBER MIRANDA SAID.
BUT IT'S -- IT IS LIKE CHECKING THE BOX.
WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, GREEN -- GREEN -- GREEN MAILING OR
GREEN MARKETING?
IT IS LIKE WE WANT -- WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CHECK A BOX AND
SAY WE PUT SOLAR SOMEWHERE AND NOT 100%.
WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE NOT DOING IT IN LOTS OF OTHER PLACES.
WE JUST DO IT TO CHECK A BOX.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON.
BUT THIS -- IF IT ENDS UP THAT -- THAT NOBODY HAS TOLD ME
YET FROM THE CFO'S OFFICE.
IF IT ENDS UP NEXT WEEK THAT WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY, WE GOT TO
HOLD THAT IN SHORT-TERM RESERVES BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE A
FINANCIAL CLIFF.
AND IF WE SPEND ON SOMETHING THAT EVEN SOUNDS LIKE A
SHORT-TERM NEED, AND THEN -- AND THEN IN A FEW MONTHS WE
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY SALARIES AND WE HAVE TO LAY
UP 100 PEOPLE, WE WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE.
THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR ECONOMY.
WHATEVER -- WHATEVER WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY -- WHATEVER WE
COULD SPEND MONEY ON, THE EXTRA, WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE
HOLD IT BACK BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO RAISE TAXES.
IF WE RAISE TAXES, OUR ECONOMY IS TOAST IN THIS COMMUNITY.
WE TAKE ON MORE DEBT, IT IS GOING TO HURT OUR CITY.
WE CAN'T BE SPENDING ON ANYTHING ANYMORE.
WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PREVENT FROM LAYING PEOPLE OFF.
01:51:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DOES ANYBODY PLAN ON SUPPORTING THIS?
01:51:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IS THAT TRUE THAT WE WOULD BE LAYING OFF
OVER THIS LITTLE MONEY?
01:51:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT -- IF IT TURNS OUT -- LET'S SAY THAT WE
COLLECTED MORE TAXES THAN WE EXPECTED.
LET'S SAY $20 MILLION.
WE ARE POTENTIALLY FACING A SHORTFALL NEXT YEAR.
AND THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO LAY PEOPLE OFF.
AND RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE -- UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING WE
ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE, AND THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF CASES
FOR WHY WE SHOULD SPEND MONEY ON THINGS.
ALREADY, WE CAN'T DELIVER ON CITY SERVICES.
IF WE HAVE TO LAY PEOPLE OFF, WE WILL BE IN EVEN WORSE
SHAPE.
FOLKS EXPECT US TO PROVIDE BASIC SERVICE AND WE NEED TO
CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WE MAY HAVE TO LAY OFF ULTIMATELY.
01:52:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
UNDER IORIO, 750 PEOPLE WERE LAID
OFF?
01:52:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
CLOSE.
DENNIS ROGERO, I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
WE ELIMINATED ABOUT 700 -- MAYBE 750 POSITIONS.
HALF OF THOSE WERE FILLED.
ABOUT 300-PLUS PEOPLE.
01:53:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, MIRANDA AND
HURTAK.
01:53:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I AM JUST -- YOU KNOW, WHEN I READ THIS,
AND MY RESEARCH.
IT IS UNAPPROPRIATED SURPLUS, IS THAT WHERE THAT IS COMING
FROM, IS THAT CORRECT?
01:53:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
A PORTION OF IT.
A SMALL PORTION.
LESS THAN $20,000 IS COMING FROM A PROJECT ALREADY COMPLETED
AND HAS A BALANCE.
REMAINDER IS COMING FROM PARKS AND RECREATION'S MAINTENANCE
BUDGET.
01:53:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I THINK WHAT IS HARD FOR ME TO WRAP MY
HEAD AROUND IS NOT NECESSARILY THIS.
IF WE CAN GIVE HART $1 MILLION FOR PEOPLE TO RIDE A BUS FOR
FREE, WHY IS THIS SUCH A BIG ISSUE.
THIS IS FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR -- YOU WANTED TO PULL THIS ONE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
WHY WOULD WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND NOT SUPPORT THIS?
01:53:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, IT IS ACTUALLY PRETTY SIMPLE.
IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, WE HAD A DIFFERENT FEDERAL
ADMINISTRATION.
AND TO BE HONEST, AFTER THAT, LIKE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN.
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T KNOW WE WILL GET THE FEDERAL MONEY
PROMISED TO US.
WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY MORE OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ THE BUSINESS JOURNAL, EVERY WEEK
MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING LAID OFF.
AND AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AND PREPARE.
THIS IS NOT JUST ONE ISSUE FOR ME.
MY WHOLE POINT IS TO HAVE US LOOK AT THE CONSENT ITEMS A
LITTLE MORE CLOSELY.
01:54:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I JUST WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE WE CAN'T
TALK ABOUT IT BEHIND THE SCENES.
01:54:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS A IMPORTANT.
IF YOU ASK PEOPLE IN PORT TAMPA IF THAT IS WHAT THEY WOULD
WANT THEIR PARKS MONEY SPENT ON.
WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS IN PARKS, WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING ON
SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REACH THE AVERAGE CITIZENS.
01:55:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOR LORETTA INGRAM TOO.
01:55:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO JUST FOR PORT TAMPA.
01:55:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
PORT TAMPA -- A LOT OF NEEDS IN PARKS AND I THINK THAT IS A
LOT OF WHAT WE LEARNED DURING THE STORMS.
RIGHT NOW A LOT OF TREES OUT IN PARKS, AND SOME OF THOSE HIT
SOME BUILDING.
01:55:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS FAIR.
I MISSED THE TALK OF IT.
I WANTED TO KNOW.
01:55:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN TALLAHASSEE.
BILL FILED TO ELIMINATE PROPERTY TAXES.
THAT IS ANOTHER THING TO THINK.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:55:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WELL, I THINK I CAN COUNT TO FOUR, BUT I
AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW, EVEN THE ELECTRIC COMPANIES, THE POWER
COMPANIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD ARE PUTTING SOLAR.
ALL OF THEM ARE.
THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE SPENT EVERY YEAR TO
CONVERT THE SUN INTO SOLAR ENERGY TO REDUCE YOUR COST OF
LIVING AND REDUCE A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT COME WITH
THAT.
LIKE THE PRODUCTION OF ELECTRICITY ITSELF.
WHAT DOES IT DO FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK IT IS WONDERFUL FOR THE
ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU PRODUCE ELECTRICITY THE WAY WE DO NOW?
YOU WON'T SEE A LOT OF HANDS GOING UP.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
AND THE PROBLEM ARE, WE DON'T ADDRESS THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
WE WAIT UNTIL THEY ADDRESS US.
AND THEY SENT US A MESSAGE LAST YEAR.
AND THAT MESSAGE IS GOING TO BE HEARD OVER AND OVER.
I HOPE I AM WRONG.
I HOPE THERE ARE NO HURRICANES ANYWHERE.
WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN CALIFORNIA, KENTUCKY, OHIO, AND ALL
THOSE STATES THAT ARE -- IF LOOK AT TODAY'S NEWSPAPER,
ANCHORAGE, ALASKA WAS WARMER THAN AKRON, OHIO.
IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, LOOK AT IT.
FAIRBANKS THAT IS CLOSE TO THE NORTH POLE IS WHERE
IT WAS A FEW YEARS BACK.
ALL I AM SAYING WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS EVER IF YOU
DON'T WANT IT TOMORROW.
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, WE ARE GOING TO GET TO THE POINT
WHERE TOMORROW IS NOT GOING TO COME.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND ALL YOUR PERSONAL NEEDS, PRIVATE NEED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WHAT IS MORE OF A NECESSITY TODAY, TO KEEP DOING WHAT WE ARE
DOING, TO KEEP BUILDING HOUSES THAT HAVE ROOFS THAT ARE MADE
OUT OF WHAT?
WOOD?
SHINGLES?
WITH AN EAVE 18 TO 24 INCHES WHERE THE WIND PICKS IT UP,
LIFT THE ROOF AND THE WALLS CAVE IN.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO.
CONTINUE DOING HOUSES THE WAY THEY ARE.
NO MATTER WHAT THE COST IS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE COST JUST WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IN
REPAIRING THINGS AND IMPROVING THINGS IS GREATER THAN
PUTTING THE WHOLE CITY OF TAMPA UNDER SOLAR WE THINK ABOUT
RIGHT NOW OUR NEED FOR TODAY.
FORGET OF PEOPLE WHO NEED ANYTHING.
I AM REALLY JUST TALKING TO MYSELF.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT I ENJOY SOMEWHAT BEING A REBEL ONCE IN A WHILE.
I AM NOT A REBEL.
I AM TELLING YOU THE FACTS.
HOW THEY ARE.
AND I'M GOING TO START AS SOON AS I GET ON MY FEET A LITTLE
BIT MORE PUTTING -- AND EVERY HOUSE THAT I CAN TOUCH SOLAR.
IT PAYS OFF.
MINE PAYS OFF IN LESS THAN TEN YEARS.
I GOT INVOLVED IN TEN HOUSE AT ONE TIME.
AND MY SOLAR COST $14,400.
SO WE CAN DO THAT OR WE CAN JUST WEIGHT AND SAY DON'T WORRY
ABOUT IT.
TOMORROW WILL COME.
SUN WILL RISE.
IT IS NEVER GOING TO RAIN.
THE HURRICANES WON'T COME.
EVERYTHING WILL BE PERFECT BECAUSE I LIVE HERE.
THANK YOU FOR DREAMING.
01:59:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY LIKE TO MOVE THIS.
01:59:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THOUGHT OF THE WORD I WAS TRYING TO THINK
ABOUT BEFORE "GREEN WASHING."
EVERY TIME CITY COUNCIL VOTES AGAINST SOMETHING WITH
ADMINISTRATION, ADMINISTRATION CALLS THE ACTIVISTS AND WE
GET E-MAILS, AND HOW STUPID ARE YOU.
HOW STUPID ARE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST SOLAR.
THIS IS GREEN WASHING.
MAYOR DID HAVE A PROGRESSIVE AND THE FIRST SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER
AND THE BRILLIANT GUY THAT IS CAPABILITY AND PRESENTED A
PLAN WITH 58, I THINK IT WAS, THINGS TO DO AND PRAISE BY THE
MEDIA, AND THEY PUT HIM ON TOILET AND TAP FOR THREE YEARS AND
THEY NEED TO PUT HIM ON THINGS LIKE THIS AND TALK OF A
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IF WE ARE IMPLEMENTING SOLAR IN ALL THE PARKS AND THIS IS ON
LIST THAT IS IN ORDER AND WE ARE ONLY GOING TO DO A FEW A
YEAR AND PART OF OUR LARGER PLAN, IT WOULD BE UNDERSTANDABLE
FOR THE PUBLIC.
OTHER THAN THAT IT LOOK LIKE GREEN WASHING.
YOU CREATE A PAGE ON YOUR WEB SITE AND YOU SAY WE DID SOLAR
AND YOU CREATED A SMALL THING ON YOUR PAGE.
02:00:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE THE ITEM?
02:00:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WILL MOVE IT TO SEE IT WHERE IT GOES.
02:00:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
02:00:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
02:00:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
02:00:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
02:00:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
02:00:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
02:00:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
VERY RESPECTFUL NO.
02:00:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
02:00:36PM >>CLERK:
MOTION FAILED WITH CARLSON, HURTAK, CLENDENIN,
VIERA AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
02:00:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHOEVER HAS THEIR PHONE NOT SILENCED IF
YOU CAN SILENCE IT.
02:00:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NOT ME.
02:00:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOT ME.
MAYBE SOMEBODY LEFT --
02:00:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE ELECTRIC COMPANY CHECKING ON US.
02:00:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT WAS TECO.
ITEM NUMBER 49 WAS THE LAST ITEM YOU PULLED.
02:01:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
ONE OF THE REASONS I PULLED THIS, WE ALL GOT AN E-MAIL FROM
MISS COPESKY ABOUT THIS ITEM.
WHEN WE ARRIVED IT IN 2023, THIS WOULD BE A $10.7 MILLION
PROJECT.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS GIVING US $5.35 MILLION AND WE
WERE GOING TO PROVIDE $4.7 MILLION.
NOW $22 MILLION TO TAKE DOWN A SMALL SECTION OF ASHLEY.
AND THEY ARE BELIEVING THAT THE CITY STAFF OR ADMINISTRATION
IS SAYING THEY WANT TO TAKE $8 MILLION OF CRA FUNDING TO DO
THAT.
WE ALL KNOW WE DON'T HAVE $8 MILLION IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA TO
SPEND ON THIS AND THEY WANT TO PUT $4 MILLION ON FUTURE
DEBT.
MOBILITY FEES AND CIT RENEWAL.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD THIS PROBABLY
ANYMORE.
02:01:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS WOULD RE-ESTABLISH OR CREATE NEW
BLOCKS WITHIN THE NORTHERN PART OF DOWNTOWN HERE.
02:02:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS A GREAT IDEA.
BUT WE ARE GETTING $5 MILLION FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND WE
HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE $17 MILLION.
I CAN'T CONSCIOUSLY VOTE FOR THAT.
02:02:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO" MY QUESTION, ESTABLISH COMMERCIAL BLOCKS --
DOWNTOWN BLOCKS THAT DON'T EXIST BECAUSE OF THE HIGHWAY IS
THERE.
WHAT WOULD BE THE VALUE OF THE PARCELS SHOULD WE SELL THEM
TO DEVELOPERS.
02:02:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF WE WERE ACTUALLY GETTING PARCELS FROM IT,
IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT -- SLIVERS OF LAND BUT NOT
ACTUAL PARCELS.
02:02:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LIKE A SQUARE BLOCK.
WE ARE NOT GETTING MULTIPLE BLOCKS TO SAY $10 MILLION
APIECE.
02:02:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT PROJECT HAS TOO DO WITH THE ARMY-NAVY
BUILDING AND IT IS OUR LAND ALREADY.
02:02:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WILL THIS AFFECT THE ARMY-NAVY PROJECT.
02:02:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COULD AFFECT THE RFQ -- RFP, I DON'T REMEMBER
WHICH.
THAT IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT.
I DON'T WANT TO JUST RUBBER STAMP IT.
I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WILL
FIND $17 MILLION.
AND, AGAIN, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IS GOING -- THAT THAT --
THAT WILL COME BACK US TO IN ENOUGH TIME SINCE WE ALREADY
HAVE A PLAN TO PUT SOMETHING THERE.
02:03:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHO HAD THE -- I WILL GO CARLSON,
CLENDENIN AND VIERA.
02:03:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH.
I THINK THE TOTAL IS $22 MILLION?
SO THAT IS -- THAT IS SEVEN TIMES WHAT THE MAYOR PUT IN THE
BUDGET FOR ROAD REPAIR.
AND I DON'T HEAR PEOPLE EVEN DOWNTOWN COMING TO ME SAYING WE
NEED TO DO THIS ASHLEY PROJECT.
WHAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TO ME EVERY DAY AND SAYING, ARE IS
THE TRAFFIC -- WHY IS THE TRAFFIC JAMMED UP OVER THE CITY
AND WHY ARE THE STREETS FALLING APART.
WHY IS THE CITY NOT FIXING THE STREETS.
AND WE NEED TO REALLOCATE MONEY.
SECOND THING WE ARE HEARING, WE DON'T -- PEOPLE DON'T WANT
THE CITY TO PUT ON ANY MORE DEBT.
IF WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OUT DEBT, WE NEED TO USE IT VERY
WISELY BECAUSE WE ARE BORROWING FROM OUR GRANDKIDS.
THE OTHER THING IS -- WITH THIS AND THE WEST RIVERWALK, IT
IS VERY PRESUMPTUOUS TO SAY WE WILL TAKE THE CRA MONEY.
IN THE WEST RIVERWALK, THEY FINALLY GOT IT.
AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PRIORITIES IN -- THAT WE CAN -- THAT WE
CAN SPEND MONEY ON IF WE HAD IT.
BUT I THINK THE CITY SHOULD KEEP THE CRA MONEY SEPARATE FROM
THEIR -- FROM THEIR PET PROJECTS.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON POTHOLES AND FIXING TRAFFIC.
YESTERDAY, AT ABOUT 5:00, I WENT FROM MY HOUSE NEAR GANDY TO
YBOR CITY AND TOOK ME A WHILE.
BAYSHORE WAS COMPLETELY BACKED UP.
KENNEDY WAS BACKED UP.
EVERY ROAD IN EVERY DIRECTION WAS BACKED UP, ALL THE WAY HOW
THAT THE SOUTHERN PART OF TAMPA HEIGHTS, YBOR, EVERYTHING IS
BACKED UP.
WE NEED TO FIX THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT AND GET THIS CITY
MOVING AGAIN.
THANK YOU.
02:05:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN, VIERA AND COPESKY.
02:05:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I PUT THE MONEY AMOUNTS ON THE SCREEN SO YOU
GO SEE.
02:05:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S GET THE OVERHEAD.
02:05:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I EXPLAINED IT TO YOU ALL.
IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MONEY ISN'T COMING FROM -- WHERE
THEY WANT THE MONEY TO COME FROM AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IS
SOMETHING WE WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON.
02:05:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF SOMEBODY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION IN
LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE?
02:05:33PM >> I CAN SPEAK TO THE FUNDING AND THE POTENTIAL --
02:05:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE
THIS --
02:05:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE BRANDON.
02:05:42PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GOT.
I WILL SAY THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION HOW IT INTERACTS
WITH THE ARMY-NAVY RFP AND THE REDEVELOPMENT THERE.
THE NORTHERN PART OF THAT WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE ASHLE
DRIVE PROJECT.
BUT THE SOUTHERN PART DOES REMOVE THE SLIP LANE THAT GOES
FROM ASHLEY TO TAMPA, THEREBY INCREASING THAT DEVELOPABLE
LAND.
THE PROJECT OVERALL DOES DROP THE EXISTS GRADE SEPARATION
WITH THAT SLIP RAMP.
GOES UNDERNEATH.
IT INCLUDES TWO NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SQUARES OFF THOSE
BLOCKS.
AND CREATES A PATHWAY BASICALLY ACROSS THE NORTHERN PART OF
DOWNTOWN TO THE RIVER.
02:06:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU BREAK THIS DOWN FOR US?
WHAT PORTION -- BECAUSE I KNOW FDOT HAS GOT A LOT OF FUNDING
HERE FOR THE ASHLEY RECONFIGURATION.
WITHOUT US PASSING THIS, WHAT PORTION OF THAT PROJECT IS
FUNDED WITHOUT US?
02:06:48PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I AM NOT SURE I KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
SO THE GRANT ITSELF, THE FEDERAL DOLLARS BEING CONTRIBUTED
TOWARD THIS IS ON THE SIDE AND THE MEMO.
JUST ABOUT $5.4 MILLION.
REMAINDER IS CITY/RCRA FUNDS.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO ASK FDOT IF THEY HAVE ANY INTEREST IN
SUPPLEMENTING THAT.
02:07:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ENTIRE TIME FOR THE LAST YEAR I HAVE BEEN
HEARING OF THIS ASHLEY DRIVE RECONFIGURATION AND CONNECTING
THE GRID.
I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT MOST OF THAT FUNDING WAS FEDERAL
AND STATE.
IT IS NOT, IS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME?
02:07:30PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
AT ON THIS PORTION.
02:07:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING, TO BREAK DOWN
THE PROBLEMS FOR US.
02:07:36PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION A LITTLE
BETTER, AND NORTH OF THIS SEGMENT THAT WE ARE COVERING WITH THE
GRANT PROJECT, THE -- THE RAMP ON TO I-275, THERE IS SOME
RECONFIGURATION OF THAT AND SCOTT STREET THAT WILL BE
ON FDOT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR TOTAL COSTS WILL BE FOR IT.
BUT THEY -- THAT IS A SEPARATE PROJECT BUT RELATED TO THE
EFFORT TO ACCOMMODATE.
02:07:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT I AM HEARING IS THIS ITEM NEEDS TO BE
CONTINUED RATHER WE VOTE ON IT.
02:08:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD RATHER WE CONTINUE IT.
02:08:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
02:08:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD SUGGEST --
02:08:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WANT TO DO MARCH 27?
02:08:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT A GOOD DAY?
LET US LOOK AT IT.
SOMETHING TELLS ME THAT WAS REALLY A BUSY DAY.
IT IS.
02:08:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
APRIL 3?
02:08:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
APRIL 3.
I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 49 TO APRIL 3.
02:08:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
02:08:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, DO YOU WANT.
02:08:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, I
WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING TO NOT PURSUE THIS FOR A
NUMBER OF REASONS.
I MEAN, WE MENTIONED OUR DOWNTOWN CRA.
A LOT OF BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT GO 00% -- 100% FOR CRA TO DO
FOR OTHER THINGS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TAKE GENERAL FUND
AND MOVE THEM -- [DINGING]
-- WHOSE PHONE IS THAT?
02:09:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ITS NOT MY PHONE.
02:09:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS SOMEBODY'S.
THAT IS FUNNY.
TO CONTINUE THAT WITH GENERAL DOLLARS THAT WE MADE
CONSCIENTIOUS CHOICES WITH THE CRA.
A TUNE OF $40 MILLION, $50 MILLION, $60 MILLION.
AND THEN TO GO HERE, I JUST -- BUT WE NEED TO HAVE ALL THE
INFORMATION.
AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, GREAT ON PULLING THIS AND BEING A
FISCAL WATCHDOG.
THAT IS WONDERFUL.
02:09:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DON'T GIVE HER THE NAME WATCHDOG.
GIVE HER OTHER NAME.
02:09:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HAWK.
I AM SORRY.
I ONCE TOLD -- WHO WAS IT -- THE MAYOR.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING.
I SAID JUST AS LONG AS YOU KNOW I MEAN WELL.
I MEAN WELL, THAT'S ALL.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.
BUT, YES, I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS
INCLUDING THE CHECK ON THE FEDERAL RELATIONSHIP, WHAT WE ARE
GIVING UP AND SO FORTH WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE.
02:10:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY.
02:10:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
UNDER STAFF REPORT AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
02:10:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:10:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL VOTE NO RATHER THAN HAVE IT HAPPEN
AGAIN.
02:10:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OPPOSED.
02:10:25PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
02:10:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT CONCLUDES THE PULLED ITEMS.
65, GASWORX AGREEMENT HERE, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
AND MR. MASSEY IS HERE.
02:10:43PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
MORRIS MASSEY.
PROPOSED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GASWORX, CITY OF TAMPA AND
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
TO FUND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THREE
SEPARATE CRAs.
CENTRAL PARK, YBOR 2, AND DOWNTOWN.
AND YOU ALL VOTED ON THIS CONCEPTUALLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO AS
A CRA AND VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SUBJECT TO THE
NEXT OF THIS AGREEMENT.
THIS AGREEMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR
YOUR CRA MEETING LAST WEEK.
AS YOU ALL KNOW IT WAS CONTINUED, I THINK, TO ADDRESS SOME
CONCERNS OF MR. CARLSON'S.
MR. TYLER HUDSON IS HERE.
HE IS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE DEVELOPER.
THEY MADE SOME CHANGES TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS I REVIEWED
THEM.
YOUR CRA ATTORNEY REVIEWED THEM.
IN OUR OPINION, THEY ARE NOT SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
WE OFFER A NUMBER OF CHOICES.
APPROVE THE AGREEMENT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THE AGENDA.
APPROVE IT WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
MR. HUDSON WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES AND WHY THEY
WERE MADE.
OR IF YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, IT IS CRA.
UNTIL YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL AFTER YOU MEET IN
MARCH AS THE CRA.
THESE ARE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
02:12:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
THANK YOU, SIR.
02:12:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TYLER CAN SPEAK FOR CLIENT, BUT THE CAPITAL
MARKETS ARE VERY TIGHT RIGHT NOW AND SENSITIVITY OF TIMING
ON DEALS.
I WILL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT I WANTED TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK
OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING THAT THE ISSUE, AS HE SAID, A WEEK
OR TWO AGO WAS BECAUSE OF ME AND THE REASON THERE WAS SOME
LANGUAGE THAT NEEDED TO BE CLEANED UP INSIDE IT.
AND THANKS TO TYLER, MORRIS AND OTHERS FOR GETTING THAT
DONE.
IN THE PAST, THE CITY THROUGH THE CRA HAD SUBSIDIZED
DEVELOPERS.
I AM AGAINST SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPERS.
EVEN WHEN THE CITY WAS PAYING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THEY WOULD
PAY A DEVELOPER.
AND IT GAVE THE IMPRESSION TO THE PUBLIC THAT IT WAS
SUBSIDIZING THE DEVELOPER.
AND ALTHOUGH SOMEONE COULD PULL PUBLIC RECORDS, THERE WASN'T
A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY ONCE THE MONEY GOES TO THE
DEVELOPER.
SO IN THIS CASE, THE -- THE DEVELOPER -- FIRST OF ALL
COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT CRA PAID FOR WAS
FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
INFRASTRUCTURE BY THE TIME IT IS DONE WILL BE OWNED BY THE
CITY.
AND SO IT'S PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ORDINARILY
OWN AND BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ON THE PROPERTY THAT THIS
INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE ROADS, SEWER AND THINGS NEED TO
BE DONE.
BUT WHAT THEY DID WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE IN CRA AND THE
CITY HAS DONE IN THE PAST, THEY CREATED A CDD.
OPINION.
A CDD IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS SUBJECT TO SUNSHINE AND PUBLIC
RECORDS AND THEY HAVE PUBLIC OVERSIGHT AND THE CDD WITH
DETERMINE WHO TO ENGAGE TO IMPLEMENT ANY OF THIS.
THIS IS REALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER DEALS THAT HAVE BEEN
PUT TOGETHER IN THE PAST.
AND THE PROBLEM WITH THE LONG A WEEK AGO THAT THEY STILL
HAVE THE DEVELOPER IN IT.
AND THIS IS A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY, THE CRA AND THE CDD
AND NOT WITH A DEVELOPER.
THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH IS REFERENCED IN
THIS.
BUT -- BUT THE -- THE -- THE CITY AND THE CRA DIRECTLY ONLY
-- ON THIS FUNDING ONLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CDD.
AND SO WHAT I ASKED THEM TO DO IS TAKE OUT THE REFERENCES TO
THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER OTHER THAN THE -- THAN
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS NOT A PARTY OF THE FUNDING.
FUNDING GO GOES TO THE CDD AND THE CDD THROUGH A PUBLIC
PROCESS DECIDES WHERE THE MONEY WILL GO.
02:14:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:14:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MASSEY.
MY CONCERN, THIS SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT HAD THE CRA
SHOULD DEAL WITH FIRST.
CAN YOU SPEAK IF IT REALLY MATTERS.
02:15:03PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
IN MY OPINION, IT DOES NOT REALLY MATTER.
A TRI-PARTY AGREEMENT.
YOU AS CITY COUNCIL MUST APPROVE IT.
THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN IT THAT ARE COMMITMENTS OF THE
DEVELOPER TO THE CITY OR THE CITY IS AGREEING TO CERTAIN
THINGS.
FOR INSTANCE, WHILE MR. CARLSON IS CORRECT, THE CDD IS
PERFORMING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS ALL ARISES OUT OF A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT MR. HUDSON'S
CLIENT, THE DEVELOPER, IS DOING AND ARISE OUT OF THE
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER.
A NEXUS BETWEEN THE TWO AND CITY NEEDS TO MAKE THEIR THAT
THIS IS HAPPENING.
CONSIDERED A REVENUE BOND BECAUSE A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT.
UNDER THE STATUTE, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY, THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT, MUST AUTHORIZE THE CRA FOR CONTRACTUAL.
IN MY OPINION, THE ORDER DOES NOT MATTER BUT YOU HAVE TO
APPROVE IT AS CITY COUNCIL AND CRA.
02:16:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION.
THAT IS ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.
THAT WAS MY BIG CONCERN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:16:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN.
02:16:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SUCH A CONSEQUENTIAL PROJECT FOR THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID ARE, THIS AGREEMENT PROVIDES
WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY WILL NORMALLY BE
PROVIDED ANYWAY AND RETURN ON THIS INVESTMENT WILL BE
EXPONENTIAL.
IF WE ARE READY, I WOULD SAY MOVE ITEM 65.
02:16:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
02:16:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:16:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO CHIME IN.
YOU HAVE A NUMBER $14 MILLION OR $15 MILLION IF BUT --
14.7 OR 14.9.
YOU WOULD INVEST IN YOURSELF OR NOT.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING THERE, AND
WHAT YOU ARE COLLECTING YESTERYEARS?
NOTICE I SAID YESTERYEARS, BECAUSE IT WAS VACANT FOR A LONG
TIME.
AND WHAT YOU ARE COLLECTING NOW AND WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO
COLLECT WHEN ALL THAT IS COMPLETED AND DONE.
THE CRAs DO NOT LAST FOREVER.
THAT IS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND I AM NOT COMPARING THIS TO
A CRA.
MOST IS 30 YEARS.
SOME LAST LESS.
WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU LAST LESS, ALL OF THIS GOES WHERE?
TO THIS GENERAL FUND.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE?
A PART OF THE CITY THAT WAS NEVER LIKE THAT BEFORE.
I RIGHT NOW -- SOMETIMES I WALK AROUND THE CHANNELSIDE AND
INTO WATER STREET AND ALL THAT, AND I LOOK AROUND AND SAY
HOW THE HELL DID THIS HAPPEN.
02:17:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AMAZING.
02:17:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT IS JUST AMAZING TO ME.
I AM LOOKING AT EIGHT OR NINE YEARS YET.
THINKING IF I AM NO LONGER HERE NOT IF I AM DYING.
I WILL JUST BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
I WILL CLARIFY THAT.
THIS CITY HAVE AGREE AMOUNT OF CASHOLA.
MONEY IN OTHER ENGLISH LANGUAGE, AND WILL HAVE SOMETHING
THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM EVERYWHERE ELSE AND DOESN'T NEED
MUCH MAINTENANCE AND DONE RIGHT WITH THE WATER GOING UNDER
AND FEEDING THE TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS I UNDERSTAND
IT.
YOU WILL HAVE AN AREA THAT IS DIFFERENT, CLEAN, BEAUTIFUL,
AND THE MONEY ALL GOES TO YOU.
WHO WINS?
EVERYBODY.
AND THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
I DON'T MIND INVESTING MONEY IF AT THE END OF THE DAY,
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, YOU ARE GOING TO GET IT ALL BACK,
PLUS HAVE IT ALL DEVELOPED IN AT THAT WAY THAT YOU,
YOURSELF, COULD NEVER HAVE AFFORDED TO DO IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
AND SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:18:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
02:18:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
02:18:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
02:18:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
02:18:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
02:18:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
02:18:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:18:43PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:18:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, ITEM 66.
HELLO.
02:18:57PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.
BRAD BAIRD, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
A VERBAL REPORT ON THE WASTEWATER ENERGY PLAN AND COST
COMPARISONS.
I HAVE ALSO WITH ME DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE, LARRY WASHINGTON,
TO SUPPORT.
I WILL START WITH THREE QUICK IMPORTANT DATES ON THE PROJECT
TIMELINE.
ON JUNE 18 LAST YEAR, WE COMPLETED THE McKAY BAY WASTE
ENERGY FACILITY OUTAGE.
AND STARTED THE COMMISSION.
AUGUST 30, SOUTHWEST STOPPED DIVERTING GARBAGE TO THE LAND
FILL.
AS YOU KNOW THAT WAS COSTING US A LOT OF MONEY.
AND THEN OUR DATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION WAS LAST MONTH,
JANUARY 7, 2025.
SO THAT PUTS IN CONTEXT TIMELINE TO GET IN DONE.
PLEASED TO REPORT THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT CAME IN UNDER THE
BUDGET OF $99,931,279 WAS THE EXACT BUDGET, THE TOTAL THE
THREE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICES.
THE MOTION ASKED US TO COMPARE THE ORIGINAL PROJECTED COST
AND WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR OFFERS AT THE TIME.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR CONTRACT
OPERATOR WHEELABRATOR HAD AN OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE
AGREEMENT.
WE OWN THE FACILITY, BUT THEY WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS JUST MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY.
SO INSTEAD WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS REPORT ON THE FIVE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED PUBLICLY
-- ACTUALLY FOUR OF THE FIVE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED PUBLICLY.
I THINK YOU WILL FIND THESE PRICES AND TIME FRAMES
INTERESTING.
SO FIRST IN MAY OF 2019, WE CONDUCTED A FEASIBILITY STUDY
WHETHER TO TAKE OPEN THE PLANT WHETHER TO NEGOTIATE NEW
CONTRACT WITH WHEELABRATOR TO GO WITH THE FURTHER CONTRACT
OPERATOR COVANTA.
AS PART OF THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY, WE DETERMINED THAT THE
ACTION FOR US TO TAKE IT OVER, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE
THE PLANT FOR ABOUT FIVE MILLION LESS THAN A CONTRACT
OPERATOR AND THE PLAN WAS TO PROVIDE THAT BACK INTO THE
FACILITY.
AND I DID REPORT THAT TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME AND THE
FIRST CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND PART OF THAT FEASIBILITY
PLAN TO GO FOR $152 MILLION.
AND IT WAS TO BE CASH FUNDED IF $5 MILLION A YEAR OVER 30
YEARS.
OBVIOUSLY, WE DID NOT END UP USING THAT ONE.
THE SECOND OPTION IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS AS 12-YEAR
PLAN FOR $81 MILLION.
AND THIS IS A COMBINATION OF CASH AND BONDING.
FAST FORWARD TO THE FOLLOWING NEAR OCTOBER OF 2019, WE
PREPARED A TRANSITION PLAN TO TAKE OVER THE PLAN.
AND THE CITY OF TAMPA OPERATED IT.
AND MADE THAT DECISION AND PART OF THE TRANSITION, $11
MILLION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR ROUGHLY $61.5 MILLION.
THAT WAS COMMUNICATED AT THE TIME AS WELL TO THE PUBLIC.
IN 20622, DID AN INTERNAL UPDATE, $131.3 MILLION OVER TEN
YEARS FROM 2023 TO 2032.
THAT COMPLETE PLAN WAS NOT COMMUNICATED PUBLICLY, THE
FOLLOWING MONTH, MISS DUNCAN PRESENTED IN DECEMBER 2022, THE
FIRST HALF OF THAT PLAN, THE FIVE YEARS.
SHE HAD A SLIDE ON THAT AND DETAILED YEAR BY YEAR WHAT WAS
TO BE SPENT.
AND THAT WAS $91.5 MILLION.
AND IT WAS A CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION IN DECEMBER OF 2022.
AND THEN WHERE WE ENDED UP IS THE NUMBER I JUST SAID A FEW
MINUTES AGO, WHICH WAS $99.9 MILLION.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, BY THOSE DIFFERING TIME FRAMES, DIFFERING
COSTS, WE HAVE APPLE AND ORANGES ON ALL FIVE OF THOSE PLANS.
DIFFERENT TIME FRAMES.
DIFFERENT COSTS.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT LAST ONE WAS PRESENTED BY MISS DUNCAN AT
$91 MILLION.
INCLUDED ALMOST ALL YOU HAVE WHAT WE DID IN THE RETROFIT.
SO WE CAME -- YOU KNOW, SCRUNCHED IT DOWN FOR A ONE-YEAR
SPEND, DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT.
AND IT WENT FROM $91.5 MILLION TO $99.9 MILLION.
NOT TOO BAD OF A JUMP.
BUT I WANT TO -- I HAVE JUST TWO EXAMPLES.
I HAVE MANY MORE, BUT I WANTED TO USE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES
OF HOW THIS PROJECT MORPHED THROUGH -- THROUGH THE YEARS.
SO PROBABLY THE BEST EXAMPLE IS THE ASH HANDLING SYSTEM.
IN THOSE ORIGINAL OR EARLY CIP PLANS, WE ONLY -- WE ONLY
PLAN TO REPAIR THE EXISTING ASH BUILDING AND THEN REPLACE
THE FOUR EXPELLERS AND THE MAIN CONVEYER IS OVER A FIVE-YEAR
PERIOD.
SO JUST REPAIR THE FLOOR AND OTHER CONCRETE IN THAT ASH
BUILDING.
AND, OF COURSE, REPAIR THE STRUCTURE OF THE ROOF.
WELL, AS -- AS WE -- WE MOVE FORWARD IN TIME, WE DECIDED TO
REPLACE THE ENTIRE ASH BUILDING.
WHEN CPI ENGINEER DID THE FULL REVIEW OF THE ASH BUILDING
AND DETERMINED IT WAS BEYOND REPAIR.
AND BEYOND ITS USEFUL LIFE.
SO WE -- WE DID DO THAT.
WE NOT ONLY REPLACED THE ASH BUILDING, BUT WE REPLACED THOSE
FOUR EXPELLERS AND THE VIBRATORY CONVEYOR IN THE RETROFIT
PROJECT.
THAT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE OLD ASH BUILDING WOULD HAVE MADE IT
THROUGH ANY ONE OF THOSE TWO STORMS.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE -- ANOTHER VERY GOOD EXAMPLE IS WE
ORIGINALLY PLANNED ON LINING THE EXISTING UNDERGROUND
PIPELINE AND WATER CIRCULATION SYSTEM.
ORIGINALLY WE YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOING TO IN THE IF ONE MORE
TIME.
LINE IT.
WHEN IT CAME BACK, WE INSPECTED AS PART OF THE CCPI TASK
NUMBER ONE.
IT WAS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN BETWEEN THOSE TIMES, IT DEVELOPED A
LEAK.
AND ALSO, IT HAD MANY MORE BENDS THAN WE THOUGHT IT DID.
NOT AS-BUILTS FROM WHEELABRATOR AT THE TIME AND DID NOT
INSTALL A LINER IN THAT PIPELINE.
INSTEAD WE BUILT -- IF YOU GO OUT THERE TODAY, YOU CAN SEE
IT A BIG OVERGROUND -- OVERHEAD LARGE TRUSS SYSTEM.
WE UPSIZED THE PIPE JUST TO BE SAFE.
ONE PIPE SIZE.
AND THAT CAUSED WHITE A BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE WERE GOING
TO DO ORIGINALLY.
THOSE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES.
FINALLY, WE HAVEN'T FINISHED NEGOTIATIONS.
IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE, BUT WE STILL HAVE NEGOTIATIONS
ONGOING, BUT WE ESTIMATED THAT WE SHOULD END UP BETWEEN 98
AND $99 MILLION.
UNDER THAT 99.9 MILLION.
THAT LEAVES ENOUGH MONEY TO DIRECTLY PURCHASE THE SIX
TRANSFORMERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY UNDER THIS CONTRACT.
AND DIRECTLY PURCHASE, WE -- WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAX.
YOU KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A MARK-UP ON THAT.
SO WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT AND REMAIN UNDER BUDGET.
AND I WILL -- I WILL STOP THERE WITH THE CAPITAL.
AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:27:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:27:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE AND EVERYTHING.
SO THE $62 MILLION IN THE BEGINNING.
THE $62 MILLION FROM THE ORIGINAL DIAGNOSTIC THAT THE
CONSULTANTS DID, WAS THAT TEN YEARS OR FIVE YEARS?
02:28:10PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
IN THE TRANSITION PLAN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
02:28:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ASSESSMENT THAT THE CONSULTANTS DID BEFORE
WE TOOK IT OVER.
02:28:17PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
61.5.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
YES.
THAT WAS 11 YEARS FROM 2020 TO 2030.
02:28:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND SO, THE 91.5, AND THE 99.9.
THAT IS FOR FIVE YEARS, RIGHT?
02:28:38PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
NO -- YEAH, THE 99.5 WAS FOR FIVE YEARS AND
THE RETROFIT ENDED UP A YEAR.
02:28:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO THE 99.9, DOES THAT COVER EVERYTHING THAT
WAS INCLUDED IN THAT CONSULTANT PLAN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY 62?
OR -- SO THEIR ORIGINAL IDEA WAS TO DO ALL THAT OVER 11
YEARS.
DO WE DO ALL THAT IN ONE YEAR, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
02:29:06PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
YES, IT INCLUDE -- NOT EVERYTHING MATCHES
PERFECTLY BUT WE HAVE SMALLER PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.
02:29:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT WAS THE REMAINDER, $150 WAS THE
TEN-YEAR PROPOSAL, 130.
02:29:20PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
WHICH ONE.
02:29:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE TEN-YEAR PROPOSAL WAS 130?
02:29:25PM >> THE TEN YEAR INTERNALLY BEFORE THAT JEAN PRESENTED WAS
$131 MILLION.
02:29:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE THINGS IN THE $31 MILLION.
02:29:35PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
IN THE 131 MILLION.
02:29:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EVERYTHING INCLUDED IN THE 131 MILLION IS
NOW DONE FOR 99.9.
02:29:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EVERYTHING THAT WAS PROJECTED IN THE 131
MILLION IS DONE IN 99.9?
02:29:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
IT HAS NOT.
WE STILL HAVE QUITE OTHER THINGS TO DO OVER AND ABOVE THE
99.9.
02:29:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BESIDES THE TRANSFORMERS, HOW MUCH MONEY DO
YOU NEED TO FINISH THAT?
02:30:04PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
I WOULD SAYS IT PROBABLY -- I DON'T KNOW
EXACTLY, COUNCILMAN, BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT IT IS ABOUT $31
MILLION ESCALATED TO TODAY'S PRICES.
02:30:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT WILL MAKE US WITH THE ORIGINAL
11-YEAR PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING.
HOW MUCH IS THE THREE TRANSFORMERS THAT YOU SAY?
02:30:27PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THE TRANSFORMERS CAN BE PURCHASED FOR LESS
THAN A MILLION AND A HALF.
02:30:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OH, TOTAL, ALL THREE?
02:30:35PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
HOPING FOR $2 MILLION TO PURCHASE THOSE
TRANSFORMERS.
02:30:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
INCLUDED IN THE $131 MILLION BUDGET?
02:30:42PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
OH, YES.
02:30:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT IS AS SOON AS GREAT, THANK YOU.
02:30:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:30:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT WAS A TRAGEDY WAITING TO HAPPEN.
THANK GOD IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WE HAD, WHAT, ONE GENERATOR.
02:30:54PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
ONE GENERATOR.
02:30:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE LIFESPAN OF THAT GENERATOR?
02:31:00PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THE LAST TIME IT WAS OVERHAULED, NINE AND A
HALF YEARS AGO NINE AND A HALF YEARS AGO LAST YEAR.
02:31:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY DON'T LAST FOR EVER.
HOW MANY REPLACEMENTS.
02:31:14PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
ZERO.
02:31:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE BOUGHT A NEW ONE?
02:31:19PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
NO, NO, STATED THE OLD ONE.
AND THAT WAS THE DRIVER OF THIS PROBABLY.
SO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO OVERTURN AND REHABILITATE A GENERATOR
EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
02:31:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT HAD GONE HOW LONG?
02:31:36PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THEY CAN LOST 40 TO 50 YEARS.
02:31:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE IS THE THING.
IF THAT PLANT WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN.
WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ADDITIONAL COST IF AVAILABLE TO
HAUL ALL THE WAY TO THE COUNTY LANDFILL AN HOUR OR SO.
02:31:50PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
$40 MILLION A YEAR FOR DISPOSAL AND HAULING
COST.
I DO WANT TO MAKE A POINT, A BUSINESS -- A CURRENT BUSINESS
CASE POINT.
WE BUILT IT -- OR WE RETROFIT IT FOR $100 MILLION.
WE -- IN 2023, OUR ELECTRICAL REVENUE WAS $15 MILLION.
$15.3 MILLION.
IF YOU DO THAT MATH, TAKE THAT $85 MILLION NET.
AND DIVIDE IT BY $40 MILLION.
YOU ARE TALKING OF A 2.1 YEAR PAYBACK.
02:32:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BETTER THAN MY SOLAR SYSTEM.
02:32:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE ARE ALREADY COLLECTING THAT, AREN'T WE?
WE ARE NOT GETTING NEW POWER GENERATION
WE WERE COLLECTING THAT BEFORE.
02:32:40PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
WE WERE COLLECTING IT AGAIN.
02:32:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS CASE WHY WE TOOK IT
OVER.
COST NET OF THAT.
ORIGINALLY $25 MILLION A YEAR, NET $6 MILLION OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER.
02:32:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS CASE.
AND YOU HEARD ME MENTION ON THAT VERY FIRST PROPOSAL IN
2018, SPENDING $5 MILLION A YEAR FROM OUR SAVINGS.
SO THAT WAS ALSO A PART OF THAT ORIGINAL BUSINESS CASE.
02:33:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:33:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AND IF I MAY CONTINUE.
IF I RECALL -- SOMETIMES MY MEMORY IS A LITTLE WHACKO, BUT I
THINK THAT PLANT IS PRODUCING ENOUGH ELECTRICITY FOR 15,000
HOMES ON A DAILY BASIS.
02:33:19PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT.
02:33:21PM >> 15?
02:33:24PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
02:33:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE HAD A DEAL WAY BACK ANOTHER TWO
COUNCILS OR THREE TO BUY TECO.
EVERYTHING.
TRANSMISSION LINES AND WORK IT OUT.
SUCH A BAD DEAL, THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS BEEFED ABOUT IT.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS AS GOOD DEAL.
SOME DIDN'T.
WENT TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION AND THEY TOLD US WE
COULDN'T DO IT.
WE HAD TO SELL IT TO AN ELECTRIC -- THE ENERGY FOR LESS
MONEY THAN TECO WAS GOING TO PAY US, BECAUSE COUNCIL TURNED
DOWN IS A DEAL THAT WAS.
02:36:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO THE CASH FLOW AND WHATEVER THE INTEREST
IS.
I ASSUME THAT IS BEING APPLIED TO THE COST.
SO HOW MUCH HAS THE OPERATING COST GONE UP.
AND HAS THE -- HAS THE REVENUE STAYED THE SAME.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION CONNECTED TO THAT IS WE HAVEN'T
ADDED ANY NEW CAPACITY, RIGHT?
02:36:49PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THAT'S CORRECT.
I WILL LET LARRY COME UP ON CAPACITY, AND, WHY YES, WE HAVE
DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THE O&M PRO FORMA OVER THE LAST COUPLE
OF WEEKS AND I WILL USE 23 FOR WORK -- YOU KNOW WE --
02:38:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU GET IT.
NOW I AM EXCITED.
SO, ARE WE -- OUR WASTE ENERGY STAFF AND OUR ENGINEER OF
RECORD PUT TOGETHER A DETAILED OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE PRO
FORMA.
IT WAS TWO PARTS.
02:38:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, THE RETROFIT YEAR
WAS TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE PLANT ON A LOWER COST BASIS
THAN THE CITY FOR FOUR OF NOSE YEARS.
WHILE THE CITY WAS ESTIMATED TO RUN IT ON A LOWER COST BASIS
FOR 25 OF THOSE YEARS.
SO THAT -- AND THE SAVINGS RANGES ON THOSE 25 YEARS FROM $3
MILLION TO 6.6.
PRETTY CLOSE TO THE $5 MILLION WE ESTIMATED BACK IN 2018.
SO I WAS PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
AND ADDITIONALLY ON TOP OF THAT, WE CONTROL HOW THE FACILITY
CAN BE OPERATED AND MAINTAINED MUCH BETTER.
SO BASICALLY, IN CONCLUSION ,WE MADE THE DECISION.
02:39:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU TELL US GOING FORWARD THE OPERATING
COS OF THE INCOME?
02:39:46PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
WE DO HAVE THAT.
02:39:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU E-MAIL THIS TO US TOO, PLEASE?
02:39:54PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
PROBABLY WILL BE BETTER IF WE SENT THE WHOLE
PRO FORMA TO CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS A LOT OF NUMBERS AND WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
02:40:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU TELL US TOP LINE WHAT IS THE TOTAL
COST PROJECTED FOR THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR AND WHAT THE
TOTAL REVENUE IS PROJECTED?
02:40:12PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
YES.
SO FOR 2025, OPERATE CAN EXPENSES ARE EXPECTED TO BE 25.7
MILLION.
FOR 2026 --
02:40:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DOES THAT INCLUDE INTEREST OR NO?
02:40:30PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THESE DO INCLUDE ESCALATIONS AS THEY GO OUT.
02:40:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THEY INCLUDE THE INTEREST OF THE BONDING?
02:40:38PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
LET ME SEE HERE.
THAT IS THE PLANT OPERATING COSTS.
AND THEN WE ADD IN I AM NOT PICKING IT ON RIGHT AWAY, BUT
ADD IN THE BONDING COST LATER IN THIS PRO FORMA.
IN IN 2026, IT IS $20.6 MILLION IN EXPENSES.
AND YOU ASKED OF CAPACITY, SO --
02:41:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
02:41:05PM >>LARRY WASHINTON:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
LARRY WASHINGTON, DIRECTOR OF THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT.
IN TERMS OF CAPACITY, WE DON'T HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE.
WE HAD A LIABILITY ISSUE AND WENT FORWARD WITH THE WASTE
ENERGY OF RETROFIT.
I WILL TAKE IT BACK SOME.
BACK IN 2017, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS HAPHAZARDLY
STUMBLE ON OUR.
IN 2017, WE DID A COMPOSITION STUDY AND WITH THAT BEING SAID
WE NOTICED AND RESULTS WERE 17% OF THE WAY IT WAS GOING
THROUGH THE FACILITY WAS YARD WASTE.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE REMOVED THAT COMMODITY GOING TO TH
FACILITIES.
WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE LANDFILL.
MOVING FORWARD NOW, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH APPROVAL FROM YOU
ALL, NOW WE COMPOST.
AND 21 MILLION POUNDS OF YARD WASTE NOW GOES TO A MULCHING
AND A -- AND A RECOVERY FACILITY.
MULCHING AND COMPOSTING.
WE DO OTHER THINGS TO REMOVE THE ITEM WHICH GIVES US THE
CAPACITY, QUOTE, UNQUOTE.
THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE BURNING.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT.
NOW WE ARE GETTING MORE AGGRESSIVE IN FOCUSING ON
RECYCLABLES AS WELL.
PULLING THEM OUT OF THE WAY STREAM.
300,000 TONS PER YEAR IN THE NEXT TIN YEARS ON THIS AS WELL.
30,000 ADDITIONAL AND THAT IS CITY WIDE.
YARD WASTE AS BULKY WASTE AND -- AND GARBAGE IN GENERAL.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE THE SPACE TO BURN WASTE FOR
YEARS TO COME.
WE ARE FOCUSSING ON REMOVING THAT WASTE FROM THE WASTE OF
ANY FACILITY AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE IT.
WE ARE GOOD TO GO AS FAR AS RELIABILITY AND FUTURE CAPACITY.
02:43:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:43:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY, CONGRATULATIONS.
WE NOW HAVE BEEN USING THE BROWN PAPER BAG AND SYSTEM FOR A
YEAR NOW.
AND I KEPT SEEING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU CAN
-- YOU KNOW.
SO EXPENSIVE TO BUY ONE OF THOSE BINS.
I HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT I BOUGHT MY FIRST BIN WHEN I POUT MY FIRST HOUSE IN
2024.
I STILL HAVE IT.
2004.
MY FIRST -- I STILL HAVE THE BIN, 21 YEARS LATER.
WE HAVE HOLES IN THE BOTTOM.
AND SO THE WATER CAN DRAIN.
I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS FOR THAT.
AND I ALSO SAW WHY YOUR NEW SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN AROUND
RECYCLING, AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY AWESOME.
AND KIND OF TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON'S POINT.
TALKING OF HOW WE CONTINUE TO -- WE MIGHT HAVE CAPACITY FOR
NOW, BUT WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE AREA.
02:44:02PM >>LARRY WASHINGTON:
WE DO.
02:44:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OUR CONCERN IS EVEN WITH THE WORK YOU HAVE
DONE AND YOUR TEAM IS DOING, WHEN -- DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE
TO REACH THAT CAPACITY.
02:44:17PM >>LARRY WASHINGTON:
OUR GOAL IS NOT TO REPEAT THE CAPACITY.
AND JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE YARD WASTE AND SWITCH GEARS
AND FOCUS ON RECYCLABLES
OVER 20% OF THE MATERIAL GOING THROUGH THE PLANT IS
RECYCLABLE.
AND WE WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR MORE TEN YEARS.
02:44:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD TO KNOW.
I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOME COMPOSTING YARD WASTE,
AND TO FIND OF FOCUS MORE ON THAT.
02:44:51PM >>LARRY WASHINGTON:
WE DO, OF COURSE, RESIDENTS AND TO
PARTNER WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
AND WE HAVE COMMUNITY GUARDIANS THAT ARE SOMETIMES A HARD
SELL AND TAKES A LOT OF WOULD, FROM THE PUBLIC AND THOSE WHO
WANT TO PARTICIPATE, WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THEM AND OUR
TEAM IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE.
02:45:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NEAT.
I ALSO HAVE BEEN COMPOSTING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND IT
ALL WORKS OUT.
I DON'T THROW THAT MUCH GARBAGE AWAY BECAUSE MOST OF GARBAGE
GOES TO RECYCLING AND COMPOST.
I AM SORRY I MISSED MY TOUR THIS WEEK.
I WILL MAKE THAT UP SOON.
02:45:27PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
ALL FOR A TOUR FOR UPGRADES.
THANK YOU TO THE TEAM.
02:45:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A FIVE-MINUTE IN-PERSON REPORT.
HELLO, SIR.
02:46:06PM >> I WILL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF.
I AM NOT SURE MY PRESENTATION WILL BE AS EXCITING AS THE
WASTE --
02:46:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTHING MORE EXCITING THAN THAT.
02:46:15PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DAVID INGRAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
THIS AFTERNOON, WE ARE HERE TO TALK OF THE MOTION MADE BY
COUNCILMAN HURTAK TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE $45 MILLION
EXPANSION/RENOVATIONS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
WITHIN THE MOTION, WE ASKED -- ASKED FOR PROJECT TIMELINE,
COST BREAKDOWN FOR GMP 1 AND 2, ANY DESIGN, ANY CHANGE
ORDERS, CONTINGENCY FUNDS, DELIVERABLES, ANY DELAYS AND USE
OF THE FUNDS AND BENEFITS FOR IT.
FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH BUDGET TO
ACTUALITIES.
MEMORY SERVES, BUDGET WAS CREATED TO INCLUDE OUR EXPANSION,
OUR HVAC UPGRADES.
IF I USE THE WORD HVAC AND AIR HANDLER UNIT, IT IS ALL ONE
THING.
THREE PHASES TO THIS PROJECT.
FIRST PHASE IS THE DESIGN PHASE GMP 1 AND 2.
TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET WAS $44 MILLION.
WE HAVE ACTUALS THAT WERE MET FOR THOSE PROJECTS AS WELL AS
WE HAD TWO CHANGE ORDER.
ONE WAS AN INCREASE OF CHANGE ORDER FOR $258,000.
SECOND, A CREDIT BECAUSE WE WERE UNDER BUDGET, $843,000.
SO OUR TOTAL ACTUAL TO DATE IS $44,444,215.
SO, AGAIN, UNDER BUDGET WHICH WAS A BIG PROJECT FOR US TO
UNDER STAKE.
AS A REMINDER, FOR SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WAS
CONTRIBUTIONS FROM BOTH THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX THAT THE
COUNTY AUTHORIZED AND MONEY FROM THE CRA.
I BELIEVE IT IS $2 MILLION FROM EACH OF THOSE ENTITIES THAT
ALLOWED US TO DO THIS.
BEFORE I GET INTO THE OFFICIAL PROJECT TIMELINE SINCE I
WASN'T HERE BACK IN 020 PROJECTS I RECEIVED INFORMATION, THE
PROJECT WAS SUPPOSE TO START IN 2020.
ALL THAT HAPPENED WAS COVID.
AND IT DELAYED THE OFFICIAL START TIME IN OCTOBER 2020.
DESIGN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES APPROVED.
TWO MONTHS LATER, IN DECEMBER, WE HAD GMP 1 APPROVED.
AND COMPLETION WAS SET FOR 2021.
AND CONSTRUCTION STARTED IN.
THERE WE GO, SEPTEMBER OF '21.
WAS MET IN 2023 OF JUNE.
IN THAT TIMEFRAME, WE HAD ONE CHANGE ORDER, WHICH I ALREADY
MENTIONED WHICH IS JULY OF 022 AND FINAL CERTIFICATE OF
COMPLETION.
THERE IS A DELAY BETWEEN THE DELIVERABLES AND THE
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
ONCE WE DID THE RIBBON CUTTING IN JUNE, WE WERE ABLE TO GO BY
THE END OF JUNE AND JULY FOR EVENTS.
THE FIRST DESIGN WAS PROFESSIONAL.
SCOPE WAS TO EXPAND RENOVATION THAT WE NEEDED DEVELOPMENT OF A
BUDGET AND INDICTMENT OF FORMAL MATERIALS.
YOU CAN SEE THIS THE ACTUALS WE HAD.
WE REACHED OUR BUDGET OF $2.2 MILLION.
GMP 1, SCOPE OF SERVICES MODERNIZING TWO OF OUR HE WILL
VARIES.
WE DID A REHAB AND BUILT OUT THREE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS ROOMS
ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
ADDED A MATERIAL, SERVICE LIFT THAT ALLOWED US TO SERVICE IT
AND UPGRADED OUR EXISTING HVAC UNITS.
WE MET THE PROJECT OF $ .9 MILLION.
DIRECT COST OF WORK WAS .5.
ALL THE ANCILLARY STUFF IS BONDING, SERVICES FEES, THINGS
LIKE THAT.
FINAL PHASE WAS THE GMP 2, NEW MEETING ROOMS, REPLACEMENT
FOR UPPER RIVERWALK FOR HANDRAILS.
HRAC UNITS.
CURRENT THEME IN THIS PRESENTATION.
RENOVATION OF OUR REST ROOMS AS WELL AS OUR BALLROOM.
IT IS SPLIT INTO TWO PHASE.
ONE WAS ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COST AND THE OTHER SEPARATE
INCIDENT FEAR FOR UPGRADES FOR THE HVAC.
YOU SEE TWO DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS.
DIRECT COST 23.5.
AND UPGRADES FOR 5.8.
AND THEN WHEN YOU PUT ALL THE OTHER SERVICES, 37.8 MILLION,
WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE BUDGETED TO BE EXPENDING FOR THIS
PROJECT.
AGAIN, WE DID HAVE TWO CHANGE ORDERS.
FIRST ONE $258,000 FOR US.
THAT INCLUDED ADDITIONAL M.O.T. COSTS.
WE HAVE SOME FEBRUARY IMPACTS FOR OUR SCHEDULING DUE TO
EVENTS.
AND IN THE UPPERRIVER WALK REPLACEMENT, HOWEVER, THE SECOND
CHANGE ORDER WHICH IS POSITIVE NEWS CREDIT OF 823,000
FROM GMP 1 AND 2 COMBINED WHICH MAKES LIFE A WHOLE LOT
EASIER FOR EVERYBODY.
CONTINGENCY WHICH IS $1.7 MILLION.
WE USED $175 ON THAT.
REMAINING $225,000 UNSPENT ROLLS INTO THE CREDIT.
AND THE CONTINGENCY FOR ANY UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES DURING
CONSTRUCTION.
WE ARE A 30-YEAR-OLD BUILDING AND SOME OF THE AS-BUILTS OFF
THE CONSTRUCTION WEREN'T QUITE ACCURATE AND WE DID HAVE TO
CHANGE THAT A LITTLE BIT.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXPENSES WE DID WAS MITIGATE OUR WORK
SCHEDULES AND NORMALLY IN CONSTRUCTION, MONDAY THROUGH
FRIDAY, 8 TO 5.
AN ACTIVE BUILDING DURING THAT TIMEFRAME, AND WE HAD TO MAKE
CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE OUR EVENT.
THAT SHIFT OF OVERNIGHT, SECOND SHIFT HAD TO BE A SORBED OUT
OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST -- CONTINGENCY, EXCUSE ME.
THE ONE REQUEST I MADE WHILE I WAS HERE.
HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY SAW THE NEW EXPANSION AND THE CARPET,
A BEAUTIFUL SEAFOAM CARPET THAT IS TO THE ESCALATORS.
SET UP FOR THE ELEVATOR AND NOT SET UP FOR THE ENTIRE FOURTH
FLOOR AND THE STARES.
AND I MADE IT EUROPEAN TEE.
I MADE THAT DECISION TO USE THE CONTINGENCY FUND.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GMP 1s HAD 16,000 UNUSED FOR THE
CONTINGENCY AND GMP 2 HAD 203,000.
DELIVERABLES, I CAN GO THROUGH MOST OF THEM IF YOU WOULD
LIKE.
WE FOCUSED ON GETTING NEW IMPROVEMENTS FROM STEEL EXPANSION,
TO SUPPORT THE EXPANSION.
OUR 18 ROOMS WERE DONE.
UPGRADED HVAC.
RENOVATED REST ROOMS, ELEVATOR.
RELEVANT IMAGES.
I GAVE YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION AND A LOT OF NUMBERS ON
THE PRESENTATION, BUT SOMETIMES IT IS EASIER TO SEE IT THAN
IT IS TO HEAR IT.
WE INCLUDED ON THE LEFT, YOU WILL SEE THE ORIGINAL
CONSTRUCTION OF THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
EXTERIOR WALL ON THE RIVER.
ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THE UPDATED EXPANSION.
MAKES A HUGE WORLD OF DIFFERENCE FROM AN AESTHETICS
STANDPOINT AND ATTRACTIVE PIECE FOR THE RIVERWALK.
PHOTOS UNDERNEATH.
NEW BALLROOM RENOVATIONS.
AS WELL AS THE NEW MEETING ROOMS THAT WERE BEING USED.
WE DO HAVE DELAYS.
OBVIOUSLY ,I DID SAY THAT THE FIRST PART OF THE DELAY WAS DUE
TO COVID.
AND THERE WAS MATERIAL DELAYS BECAUSE OF COVID.
WE HAD DELAYS GETTING ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT.
THIS ONE IS HARD TO SAY, CERTAIN EVENTS THAT CONTRACTED, NO
MISSION, NO VIBRATIONS, NO INFORMATION CAN BE DONE AT ALL
TIMES FOR THEIR EVENTS AND THAT PUSHED ALL OF CONSTRUCTION
BACK, ANNUAL EVENT OF SOFT WEEK.
FLORIDA GAME TWICE A YEAR AND HOSTING THE SUPER BOWL.
CENTER MADE A DECISION AT THAT TIME TO BOOK EVENTS AND
WORKING IN BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK AT
TIMES.
WE HAD TO PUSH SOME DELAY BACK FOR WORK BEING DONE.
USE OF UNUSED CAPITAL FUND, THERE IS ABOUT 600,000 LEFT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE ACTUALLY USE THAT FOR THE
THREE PROJECTS WE HAVE LISTED HERE, EXTERIOR LIGHTING
PICTURE REPLACEMENT, REMAINING HVAC.
WE HAVE NINE LEFT TO REPLACE IN THE FACILITY.
A TOTAL OF 41.
WE REPLACED 39 ALREADY.
AND UPGRADE OUR ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR.
$600,000 WILL NOT COVER ALL THREE ARE YOU WHATEVER IS LEFT
OVER WE WILL HAVE IT IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, ONCE WE
HAVE THE ASSESSMENT DONE FROM THE FACILITY.
AND BENEFITS.
THE HIGHLIGHT WHERE THE SHOW COMES INTO PLAY.
EVERYONE WANTS ONE TO ONE.
IN THE CONVENTION INDUSTRY, YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET THE ONE TO
ONE.
25,000 SQUARE FEET ALREADY YIELDED US 7.1 MILLION IN REVENUE
AND BASED ON THE RENTAL AND CONTRACTED FROM 2024.
CURRENTLY THE FURTHEST OUT WE HAVE A CONTRACT IS 2031.
REALISTICALLY, THAT NUMBER GOES UP AS WE CONTINUE TO BOOK
BUSINESS.
INDUSTRY USED TO BE FOUR TO FIVE YEARS IN ADVANCE WE WOULD
HAVE A CONTRACT.
NOW DOWN TO TWO TO THREE YEARS.
SO OUR NUMBERS WILL ALWAYS BE WITHIN THE TWO TO THREE-YEAR
RANGE.
THAT NUMBER SHOULD GO UP.
OTHER ONE I LOOK AT WHICH IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT FOR THE
COMMUNITY WHAT I CALL AN INDIRECT BENEFIT, WHICH IS OUR
ECONOMIC IMPACT.
ON THE -- ON THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
SO BY MODERNIZING THE FACILITY, WE ULTIMATELY ARE ABLE TO
ATTRACT HIGH LEVEL EVENTS THAT SPEND MORE MONEY IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
THIS YEAR TWO OF THE TOP TWO, NCAA TOURNEY COMING IN END OF
APRIL, AMERICAN LEGION IN SUMMER, AND LAST YEAR, TSAL, THAT
CONTRACTED SPECIFICALLY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR --
BECAUSE OF THE NEW ROOMS.
NUMBERS ON SLIDES ARE THE ECONOMIC SPENDING IMPACTS.
I SAW THAT LOOK FOR TSAL.
IT IS TEACHING ENGLISH LANGUAGE -- TEACHING ENGLISH FOR
SPEAKING -- OF SPEAKER OF OTHER LANGUAGES.
THERE WE GO.
THAT IS A MOUTHFUL.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, NOT ONLY THAT, WE HAVE TWO -- OUR TWO
LARGE EVENTS ARE SOFT WEEK AND IVEX, THE INTERNATIONAL BOAT
BUILDERS EXPOS.
THOSE TWO SHOWS ARE GROWING YEAR-OVER-YEAR AND MAXIMIZING
THE SPACE.
YES WHEN THAT EXPANSION CAME IN, IT ALLOWED USES TO RETAIN
THOSE EVENTS FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS BEFORE WE FIGURE OUT
HOW TO EXPAND.
AND BRINGS IN ECONOMIC IMPACT.
BED TAX, SALES TAX, PEOPLE IN OUR RESTAURANTS, BUYING
SERVICES, BUYING FOOD, ALL THOSE THINGS.
I PUT THE HIGHLIGHT FOR THE YEAR, THE ESTIMATED ECONOMIC
IMPACT FOR '25 JUST TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE IS $169 MILLION
THAT OUR EVENTS BRING TO THE COMMUNITY.
PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IS A CALENDAR YEAR NOT A FISCAL YEAR
AND IT HAS THE FLUX OF IT.
WE GET HVAC EFFICIENCY.
WE HAVE OUR OWN CHILLED WATER PLANT, BUT WON'T HAVE TO USE IT
AS MUCH BECAUSE OF THE NEW UPGRADED HVAC AND IMPROVED
ACCESS TO THE RIVERWALK.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
BEFORE I OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK
YOU FOR MISS COPESKY FOR PROVIDING A GREAT FORMAT FOR ME TO
FOLLOW AND ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE ME A LOT OF INFORMATION
SINCE HE WASN'T HERE.
WHAT TO PUT IN.
WHAT NOT TO PUT IN.
AND THE FINANCIAL -- REVENUE AND FINANCE.
ANY QUESTIONS?
I'M HERE FOR YOU.
02:57:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU HAD YOUR
MICROPHONE ON.
02:57:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, I AM SORRY.
I WAS LISTENING TO IT INTENTLY.
02:57:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN AND HURTAK.
02:57:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE NOT USED TO PEOPLE AGREEING WITH
YOU.
02:57:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT FROM YOU.
A GOOD SEGUE, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT FOR TO YOU HAVE A PLAN
FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.
02:57:57PM >> ONE IS THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT.
THAT SHOULD BE READY TO GO IN MAY, PER COUNCILWOMAN'S
REQUEST -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S REQUEST, WE WILL BRING THAT
BACK TO INDIVIDUALS TO WE CAN REVIEW THAT AND ADD TO
PRESENTATION.
AND THEN PRESENT TO COUNCIL.
HALFWAY THROUGH OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH OUR CONSULTANTS.
THEY FINISHED THE STAKEHOLDER, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE A
PRELIMINARY REPORT TO US BY THE END OF APRIL AND THE
FULL-FLEDGED REPORT HOPEFULLY BY MAY IF NOT SOONER BASED ON
WHAT COMES BACK FROM THE INDUSTRY.
02:58:32PM >> I THINK WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES OF
MOBILITY, ACCESS TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
02:58:39PM >> NO ISSUES.
02:58:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOTHING TO SEE HERE'S.
I THINK AS YOU LOOK AT THIS EXPANSION AND POTENTIAL
OPPORTUNITIES HERE, THAT WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT KEEPING THE
TRAFFIC FLOWING UNDERNEATH THE CONVENTION CENTER.
PEDESTRIAN ACCESS CROSSING.
AND ACROSS FRANKLIN BETWEEN THE -- BETWEEN THE -- THE --
BETWEEN THE CONVENTION CENTER AND HARBOUR ISLAND.
02:59:03PM >> SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
FOR CSL, WHAT WE TASKED THEM TO DO TO TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION FOR FUTURE EXPANSION HOW TO DEAL WITH THE
ISSUES FRANKLIN STREET.
DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY WE GO, A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES TO
SOLVE THE PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR ISSUES THAT ARE CURRENTLY
ON FRANKLIN STREET.
02:59:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU WILL END UP WITH A LOT MORE
CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT IF -- AND MAYBE MORE EXPEDITIOUS CITY
COUNCIL SUPPORT IF THOSE THINGS ARE FACTORED IN, AND WE ARE
ABLE TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THE
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUES.
YOUR REQUEST FOR THE MONEY FOR THE CIP.
IS THAT A MOTION YOU ARE ASKING FOR US FOR TODAY?
02:59:42PM >> JUST ASKING FOR OVERALL IF YOU GUYS WANT TO INCORPORATE
THAT TO ME.
THAT IS GREAT.
MOVE IT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
02:59:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE
APPROPRIATE FOR US TO AUTHORIZE THE MONEY TO BE SPENT TO GO
THROUGH THE PROCESS?
03:00:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR WHICH FISCAL OTHER?
NEXT FISCAL YEAR?
03:00:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
UNUSED MONEY FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR.
HE WANTS AUTHORIZATION TO SPEND IN THE CIP.
03:00:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WILL BE ADMINISTRATIVE.
WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF HOW TO DO THAT.
03:00:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BRING THAT FORTH AND OBVIOUSLY I AM SURE
YOU WILL GET SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL.
03:00:26PM >> OKAY.
03:00:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY MICROPHONE WAS NOT ON.
03:00:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HURTAK, CARLSON.
03:00:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
GLAD WE CAME IN UNDER, AND YOU CAN PUT MONEY TO OTHER THINGS.
I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
I WOULD SUPPORT YOU IN THAT KNOWING THAT WE ONLY HAVE A FEW
MORE AIR CONDITIONERS LEFT, LET'S JUST GET IT DONE.
I KNOW WE TALKED OF THE FACT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THE
STORMS.
WITH HELENE AND SOME STORMWATER.
SO WOULD THAT BE INCLUDED IN WHAT TO USE THAT -- THE EXTRA
CAPITAL MONEY FOR?
03:01:03PM >> NO, THAT ACTUALLY GOES UNDER OUR INSURANCE.
THAT IS COVERED AS A SEPARATE PIECE.
AND WE CURRENTLY ARE ABLE TO -- WE NEED FOR STARTERS FOR OUR
CHILL WATER UNITS.
WE ARE ABLE TO ORDER ONE AND HAVE IT IN.
AND INSTALLED AND READY TO GO SO THE RENTAL UNIT IS GONE AND
THE OTHER THREE HAVE BEEN ORDERED.
THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING FIXED.
03:01:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU TALKED OF HAVING A FENCE A LA TGH.
STILL A CONFIGURATION.
03:01:33PM >> WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME OUT TO SEE IF THAT IS
FEASIBLE FOR US.
A TIGER DAM THEY PUT ON THE PUMP ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
GAVE US THE INSPIRATION, IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN
DO.
OUR CHIEF MAINTENANCE ENGINEER IS LOOKING AT IT TO SEE IF WE
CAN USE THAT OR THERE WILL BE ANOTHER SOLUTION.
03:01:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHATEVER EXPANSION YOU DO NEXT, THAT IS
NUMBER ONE ON MY LIST FOR YOU.
BECAUSE THAT KEEPS YOU RUNNING.
03:01:57PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
03:01:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO IF THERE IS MONEY LEFT AFTER THOSE THREE
ITEMS, THAT IS WHERE I WOULD VOTE TO PUT IT.
FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, I KNOW WE TALKED BRIEFLY
THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE -- OR THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE
RATHER -- I'M HERE ALL THE TIME -- ABOUT THE BRICKYARD AND
POSSIBLY DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THAT AREA WHEN WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT EXPANSION AND POSSIBLY GETTING RID OF SOME OF
THE CAR TRAFFIC, AND TO HELP THAT FRANKLIN STREET AREA.
I WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT WITH ANY TYPE OF
IDEAS -- PROPOSALS COMING FORWARD.
THEN -- I THINK -- I HAD ONE MORE THING AND I DON'T.
I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE -- OH, THAT IS WHAT IT WAS.
SO BASED ON GETTING THIS MONEY, BRINGING IT BACK IN, WHEN DO
WE THINK WE WILL BE KIND OF -- WE WILL BE CLEAR OF THE --
WHEN DO WE BASICALLY GET OUR MONEY BACK FROM $ 44 MILLION?
WHEN DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE COULD RECOUP THAT?
03:03:00PM >> TOUGH QUESTION.
BECAUSE BUSINESS IS CYCLICAL.
OUR CLIENTS HAVE CHOICES TO GO TO.
NOT LIKE THEY ONLY COME HERE.
REALISTICALLY, WE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A 15- TO 20-YEAR
RETURN IF YOU DO IT ON THAT RENTAL COMPONENT, BUT WE ARE NOT
ABLE TO FACTOR IN WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SPACE YOU HAVE
INCREASED UTILITY USAGES, EXPENDITURES ON FOOD AND BEVERAGE
AND THAT COMES BACK INTO THE CITY AS WELL.
AND MINIMIZE THE 15 YEARS.
BUT REALISTICALLY, WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON IS ECONOMIC
IMPACT, BECAUSE REALISTICALLY IF THE $25 MILLION GOES AWAY
FROM SOFT WEEK AND LIVE X THAT NOW SEVERELY HINDERS SALES
TAX, BED TAX.
LIKE I SAID, THAT IS WHY IT IS NOT A ONE OR ONE WHEN I MADE
THE COMMENT.
NOT NECESSARILY ONE FOR ONE.
WE SPENT X AND WE ARE GOING TO GET Y BACK.
03:03:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:03:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:03:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU DON'T ESTIMATE A TIME WHEN THE
CONVENTION CENTER WILL GENERATE A SURPLUS THAT CAN BE MOVED
TO OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY?
03:04:06PM >> NOT REALLY, THE SHEER FACT THE WAY STRUCTURE IS SET UP,
OUR EXPENDITURE BUDGET IS EQUAL BECAUSE I TAKE CARE OF OUR
MAINTENANCE PORTION AND COMES OUT OF THE REVENUE.
ANYTHING FOR GENERAL FUND SOMETHING ANYTHING ABOVE AND
BEYOND WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE SOMETHING I CAN'T
AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO PULL OUT OF.
BUT I HAVE GIVEN MONEY BACK.
I WILL SAY THAT.
LAST YEAR, WE GAVE $800,000 BACK TO THE CITY AND MANAGE OUR
EXPENDITURES AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ON REVENUE.
03:04:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
HOPEFULLY, THE NEXT QUESTION WILL HAD BEEN SOFTBALL.
BUT FORMER MAYOR BUCKHORN IN THE MEDIA SAID WE AS THE RAA
BOARD HAVE WASTED MONEY INVESTING IN CITY-OWNED FACILITIES.
AND SAID THE NONPROFITS THAT SUPPORT THE CITY-OWNED
FACILITIES AND WE SHOULD BE SPENDING CRA AND OTHER MONEY TO
SUBSIDIZE DEVELOPERS WITH THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND THE
AD VALOREM TAXES.
BESIDE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
I WENT TO GRAD SCHOOL TO SHOOT HOLES IN ECONOMIC NUMBERS.
ASIDE FROM ECONOMIC IMPACT, WHY IT IS IMPORTANT FOR A CITY
TO HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER AND INVEST IN A CONVENTION
CENTER.
WHY SHOULD THE CONSTITUENTS CARE.
03:05:25PM >> WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE ON THE PHILOSOPHICAL OF
ECONOMIC IMPACT, HAVING MONEY COME TO THE COMMUNITY IS
FAR BETTER A PLAN THAN NOT.
WE ARE NOT A NATURAL DRAW.
WHEN I SAY A NATURAL DRAW, NOT TRYING TO COMPARE TAMPA TO
ORLANDO, DISNEY, UNIVERSAL.
A NATURAL DRAW FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND ON VACATION AND
SPEND THE MONEY THERE.
OUR FRIENDS IN CLEARWATER AND ST. PETE HAVE A BEACH TO GO
THROUGH.
ONE WAY TO BRING THAT IN HAVING A CONVENTION CENTER AND
HAVING OUTSIDE BUSINESS.
FOR US AT THE CENTER, WE ARE HERE NOT TO MAKE A PROFIT.
NOT A DEVELOPER TRYING TO BUILD A HOTEL.
I'M HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS IN WATER STREET WHO
HAVE RESTAURANTS HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THEM AND HAVE
JOBS.
THAT IS THE MANY POINTS I HAVE FOR IT.
03:06:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HAVE YOU BEEN -- THIS IS A PHILOSOPHICAL
COMPANY.
HAVE YOU TRACKED COMPANIES THAT COME TO CONVENTIONS AND INVEST
IN IT, USED AS AN ECONOMIC TOOL AT ALL?
03:06:23PM >> I WOULD HAVE TO REACH OUT TO VISIT TAMPA BAY.
03:06:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU ONLY HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE FOR A COUPLE OF
YEARS.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT LONG HISTORY.
03:06:31PM >> PAST PRECEDENCE IS ORLANDO.
THE AMUSEMENT PARK LEFT THEIR HEADQUARTERS TO MOVE TO
ORLANDO BECAUSE IT WAS IN ORLANDO.
THERE IS A TRACK RECORD OF CERTAIN AGENCIES TO MOVE IF YOU
HAVE THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
03:06:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN CASE IT IS NOT CLEAR, I THINK IT IS GOOD
IDEA TO HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER AND COMPETITIVE FOR THE
REASONS YOU MENTIONED AND MORE.
AND I THINK IT IS AS GOOD INVESTMENT.
JUST LIKE I THINK IT IS AS GREAT INVESTMENT FOR CRA TO
INVEST IN OTHER CITY-OWNED FACILITIES.
ONE LAST QUESTION THAT MAY BE SLIGHTLY TOUGHER.
CONVENTION CENTER THAT ASKED FOR THE ARE HE HAD LIGHT AT
GRECO PLAZA.
03:07:11PM >> THE DICK GRECO BOULEVARD.
03:07:12PM >> THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO HAVE RED LIKE AT
GRECO PLAZA.
THE CONVENTION CENTER --
03:07:22PM >> THE ONE I SUPPORTED WAS STREET AND FRANKLIN BECAUSE THAT
IS A NATURAL CHALLENGE FOR US WHEN IT COMES TO -- WHETHER IT
IS JUST THE CONVENTION CENTER OR NEWS AT THE MARRIOTT THAT
HAPPENS.
THAT IS A CRITICAL INTERSECTION FOR US.
AND FROM -- I WILL SAY A NONPOLITICAL STANDPOINT, WE WILL DO
WHATEVER IT DECIDED FROM BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND MOBILITY.
WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BE GOOD PARTNERS AND MAKE SURE OUR
PEDESTRIANS ARE SAFE, OUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE, AND I DON'T GET
CALLS FROM EVERYBODY WHO SIT THERE AND SAY THE STREET IS
BLOCKED UP BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE.
03:07:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A SKY BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER THE EMBASSY
SUITES.
DO MANY PEOPLE USE THAT?
03:08:01PM >> IT WAS BUILT AND OPERATED BY EMBASSY SUITES.
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
IT IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACCESS TO
THE STREET LEVELS TO GET TO THE STAIRS AND OWNER/OPERATOR OF
A HOTEL.
I WOULDN'T WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO GO UP AN OVER.
03:08:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
APPRECIATE IT.
03:08:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HENDERSON, MIRANDA.
03:08:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MY QUESTION IS EASY SO DO CHARLIE FIRST.
03:08:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I APPRECIATE YOUR SINCERITY, FORWARDNESS
AND EXPLANATION.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, CONVENTION CENTERS ARE A FACILITY TO BRING
MONEY FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN A WAY.
YOUR JOB TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE RIGHT, APPROPRIATELY AND
NOT LOSE ANY OF THE CITY'S MONEY.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE -- NOT WE, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE.
YOU TALK OF ORLANDO AND CHICAGO AND ATLANTA, THOSE -- THOSE
CONVENTION CENTERS ARE FIVE TIMES LARGER THAN OURS, AM I
CORRECT?
03:08:52PM >> A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT SURE.
03:08:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T WANT TO KNOCK DOWN MY CITY THAT
BAD.
SEVEN OR EIGHT, OR FIVE OR SIX TIMES BIGGER THAN US.
BUT WE DO WHAT WE DO.
WE ARE A B CONVENTION CENTER COMPARED TO THE SIZES -- THEY
HAVE DIFFERENT SIZES.
03:09:08PM >> NEVER LETTER BY LETTER.
ALL BY TIER.
TIER ONE, TIER TWO.
WE ARE A TIER TWO CITY.
03:09:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TWO, I WOULD IMAGINE WE ARE ONE OF THE
SUCCESSFUL CONVENTION CENTERS IN THE COUNTRY.
03:09:23PM >> WE ARE.
WE PULL OUR OWN WEIGHT.
03:09:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T TALK TO YOU.
I DON'T TALK TO ANYONE.
WHEN YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THAT.
YOU SEE PEOPLE HAPPY WALKING THE STREETS OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA
AND AT NIGHT GOING YBOR CITY AND SPEND THEIR MONEY AND
CONVENTION CENTER AND WALK AROUND WATER STREET AND DO THE
THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO, THAT THEY WANT TO DO, IT IS A
WHEN-WIN FOR EVERYONE.
AND -- AND I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT OTHER ENTITIES SAY
WITHOUT US, YOU CAN'T DO IT.
WE ARE MORE THAN LIKELY ONE AND TWO IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY IN
HOTEL OCCUPANCY.
AM I CORRECT, SORT OF?
03:09:56PM >> OR OCCUPANCY RATE FOR THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE IN
THE TOP FOR THE COMPETITIVE SET.
03:10:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT IS BECAUSE IN PART -- NOT ALL OF IT
-- THE CONVENTION CENTER PEOPLE COME TO HAVE CONVENTION.
THEY RENT HOTEL ROOMS AND RENT BALLROOMS AND DO ALL KIND OF
THINGS.
THEREFORE, YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT THING NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY
OF TAMPA, BUT FOR THE REGION, INCLUDING THE SALES TAX THAT
THE STATE COLLECTS MOST OF IT FOR THEMSELVES.
SO WE -- WE HAVE DONE -- WE -- WHEN I SAY "QUESTION," I MEAN
YOU, NOT ME.
WHAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAS DONE IS CONTINUE TO BETTER THE
CONVENTION CENTER.
YOU HAVE TO CHANGE EVER SO MANY YEARS.
RESTAURANT BUSINESS CHANGES OVER EIGHT TO TEN YEARS.
IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE INSIDE OF IT.
THEY EAT WITH THEIR EYES AND TASTE WITH THE MOUTH.
YOU SEE RESTAURANT NOT CHANGING, YOU ARE SAYING WHY AM I
HERE FOR.
IMMACULATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND THAT PLACE IS IMMACULATELY
CLEAN.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES IT BUT THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
03:10:57PM >> THEY DO.
I WILL SHARE THAT WITH THEM.
03:10:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU CAN LOOK DOWN AND SEE THE FACE ON THE
FLOOR.
NOT MINE BECAUSE I AM BALD AND THE GLARE BOTHERS ME.
ALL OF THESE THINGS ON YOUR SIDE AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
YOUR TEAM ALONG WITH VISIT TAMPA BAY.
CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE CONVENTIONS COMING FROM ALL OVER THE
WORLD.
WE DON'T HAVE CIGAR MAKERS ANYMORE.
SO THEY CAN'T GO SEE A CIGAR FACTORY OPERATION.
WHAT WE HAVE IS THE ENTITY CITY OF TAMPA WITH DIFFERENT
COMPONENTS THAT PEOPLE COME TO SEE AND THEY LOVE IT.
ZOO TAMPA AQUARIUM, BOTH -- OVER A MILLION PERSONS THE BLAST
TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BEFORE.
IF I RECALL THAT.
AND WHEN THEY WERE OPEN, THEY WERE BOTH STRUGGLING AND DOING
THE BEST.
ENLARGING THE PLACE.
CREATING OTHER THINGS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ATMOSPHERE TO SUCCEED AND YOUR OPERATION
HAS TO HAVE A BETTER OPERATION FOR THEM TO SUCCEED.
IF YOU HAVE A PARTNERSHIP LIKE THAT, EVERYBODY GETS A LITTLE
PIECE OF THAT DOLLAR BILL, AND EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
03:12:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHARLIE, HOW SO YOU SPELL C-GAR?
03:12:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DEPENDS IN EAST YBOR CITY AND CITY.
I KNEW SOMEBODY LIKE YOU WOULD BRING IT UP, SO HE WAS
PREPARED.
03:12:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
I AM JUST CURIOUS AND TRIGGERED IN MY HEAD WHEN YOU SAID THE
LOCAL STAKEHOLDER MEETING.
EXACTLY WHO DOES THAT INVOLVE.
LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS.
03:12:32PM >> VISIT TAMPA BAY.
HOTELIERS.
MOST OF THE DEVELOPERS FOR HOTELS.
THAT COMPONENT -- YOU KNOW ME, I AM VERY TRANSPARENT, AND I
CAN'T HIDE BEHIND IT.
WE NEED ADDITIONAL HOTEL ROOMS.
WHEN IT COMES TO EXPANSION ADDITIONAL HOTEL SPACE.
WE HAVE TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION OTHER DEVELOPERS AND WHAT
THEIR RESPONSE AND IF THEY ARE SUPPORTED.
AT THE MOMENT, THEY ARE ALL FOR IT BECAUSE WE ARE LIMITED
FOR SPACE FOR HOTEL ROOM CAPACITY.
THAT LOCAL STAKEHOLDER PIECE FROM THE FEASIBILITY, WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MARKET IS THERE.
WE MOVE TO THE EXPANSION, WE INVOLVE MORE OF THE LOCAL
COMMUNITY FOR POTENTIAL DESIGN, LOCATION AND THINGS LIKE
THAT.
03:13:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE.
THANK YOU.
03:13:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I ASK.
03:13:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
AS I RECALL, THE EMBASSY SUITES WAS BUILT TO BUILD A SECOND
TOWER ON TOP OF THAT.
03:13:32PM >> YOU ARE CORRECT.
03:13:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
POTENTIAL CAPACITY THERE.
03:13:36PM >> CORRECT.
03:13:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
RENDERING THAT SPECULATED PUTTING A HOTEL ON
TOP OF THE CONVENTION CENTER BUT JUST ACROSS THE STREET
THERE IS SPACE AS WELL.
03:13:44PM >> PRIVATE ENTITY THAT OWNS THE EMBASSY, YES.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR IT FROM US.
THERE IS STILL A LACK OF ROOM CAPACITY FROM THAT BUILDING.
YOU STILL -- REALISTICALLY, FOR COMMUNITY WE PROBABLY NEED
8,000 TO 1,000 ADDITIONAL ROOM NIGHTS TO TRULY BE
SUCCESSFUL.
03:14:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:14:03PM >> THANK YOU.
03:14:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BRANDON CAMPBELL FROM MOBILITY TO EXPLAIN
WHY DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC PLAN IS NOT BEING FOLLOWED.
NO, TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
YOU SAID YOU WERE GOOD ON 68.
03:14:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES I AM.
THANK YOU.
IF I MAY.
LIKE I SAID, WE ARE GOOD ON THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK ON
STAFF ON THAT FOR PEPPIN AND LISA BONNER, FORMER TAMPA
POLICE OFFICER.
GREAT -- GOOD WORK.
APPRECIATE YOU.
03:14:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC PLAN NOT BEING
FOLLOWED AS ALLEGED BY DOWNTOWN PROPERTY OWNERS.
03:14:36PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
GOOD AFTERNOON, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
I SUBMITTED A MEMO THAT EXPLAINS IN GENERAL WHAT THE PROCESS
FOR THE DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR -- FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
WE DO PUT FORTH ATTRACT CONTROL PLAN THAT TPD IMPLEMENTS FOR
SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEN ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE MADE ON A
CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
03:15:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU MADE THE
MOTION.
03:15:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ARGUING AGAINST THE ISSUE, NOT AGAINST YOU.
APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP BEFORE US.
TRAFFIC IN DOWNTOWN WAS TERRIBLE.
MENTIONED THAT YESTERDAY IT TOOK ME AN HOUR TO GET FROM
GANDY DOWN BAYSHORE AND CROSSTOWN AND OTHER METHOD -- TOOK
ME AN HOUR TO GET FROM GANDY TO YBOR CITY, AND IF THERE IS ONE
EVENT OR EVEN MORE THAN ONE EVENT DOWNTOWN, IT IS COMPLETELY
JAMMED.
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, I HAVE EXPLAINED TO OTHER STAFF MEMBERS
IS THE OTHER TURN LANE -- THE RIGHT-TURN LANE IS BLOCKED
BECAUSE THE -- THE TRAFFIC PLAN IS NOT FOLLOWED.
EVEN VIK SAID IF THE POLICE AND EVERYONE JUST FOLLOWED THE
LIGHTS AND SIGNALING AND DIDN'T LET A CONSTANT STREAM OF
PEDESTRIANS, THAT IT WOULD CLEAR IT UP.
THE PROBLEM IS, BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T TURN RIGHT, THE LEFT
LANES ON THE CONVENTION CENTERS ARE OPEN.
BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T TURN RIGHT MOSTLY TO GO TO HARBOUR
ISLAND, IT IS BACKED UP ALMOST EVERY DAY TO HOWARD AVENUE.
AND YESTERDAY WAS BACKED UP -- ALSO A SIGNALING PROBLEM ON
BAY TO BAY ON BAYSHORE.
BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO GANDY YESTERDAY.
WE GOT TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
AND I HAVE TALKED TO EXPERTS.
I TALKED TO OTHER MAJOR PLAYERS DOWNTOWN.
I TALKED TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
AND THEY WANT -- EVERYBODY AGREES TO A -- TO ATTRACT PLAN.
AND SOMEHOW WE NEEDS TO ENFORCE IT.
AND I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW EITHER THE PLAN IS NOT WORKING,
OR IT IS BEING HAPHAZARDLY IMPLEMENTED.
I WAS AT AN EVENT THE AMALIE ARENA.
AND STARTED HEADED SOUTH TO GET OUT, THE POLICE REDIRECT MY
-- A BLOCK LATER DIRECT ME BACK TO AMALIE ARENA AND I HAD TO
GO BACK AROUND AGAIN.
WE ARE A LARGE CITY.
AND WE SHOULD OPEN THE ROADS.
WE SHOULDN'T CLOSE ROADS AT ALL, MAYBE WITHIN ONE OR THREE
BLOCKS.
BUT SHOULDN'T BE BLOCKING DOWNTOWN.
OTHER BIG CITIES DON'T DO THAT.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER -- I BROUGHT SOME THREE
OR FOUR TIMES TO CITY COUNCIL.
NOTHING IS HAPPENING.
LIKE I SAID, SEVERAL TIMES BROUGHT UP.
UP TALKED TO STAKEHOLDERS DOWNTOWN.
NO BECAUSE OF THE CUMBERLAND GARAGE WASN'T BUILT AND NOT
PLANNED TO BUILT.
NOT BECAUSE PRECIOUS SIGNAGE PROGRAM WAS NOT APPROVED
BECAUSE MODERN-DAY EVENTS GOING BACK TEN YEARS.
PEOPLE REBOOKED THEIR PARKING GOING TO PLACES LIKE AMALIE
ARENA.
SHOULD BE VERY FEW PEOPLE SHOWING UP AT THE CONVENTION
CENTER HAPHAZARDLY LOOKING FOR PARKING.
BECAUSE THAT SIGNAL AT FRANKLIN STREET IS NOT CONTROLLED
PROPERLY.
WHAT IS THE NEXT ONE, NEXT STREET, FLORIDA.
THAT SUN WITH NOT BEING CONTROLLED.
CAN'T GET TO THE PAM IORIO GARAGE AND TURN RIGHT TO GET TO
HARBOUR ISLAND.
THIS IS A TRI-CITIES IN AND OUT COMMUNITY.
NOT TALKING TO YOU ABOUT YOU TALKING TO THE TV THAT I HOPE
THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND MAYOR DOES SOMETHING.
THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I GET ARE POTHOLES, BUT CATCHING UP
QUICKLY ARE TRAFFIC JAMS.
PEOPLE ARE STUCK IN TRAFFIC.
DOING THAT FOREVER ON 275.
EVERY TIME THEY EXPAND IT, IT GETS FILLED UP AGAIN.
HAPPENING ALL THROUGHOUT OUR ARTERIAL ROADS.
WE GOT -- WE GOT TO FIX THIS SHOWER.
AND THERE IS NOT -- WE CAN'T PUT IN RAIL AND BUSES RIGHT NOW
BECAUSE NO MONEY TO DO THAT.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS FIX THIS TRAFFIC JAM IN DOWNTOWN BY
NOT HAPHAZARDLY SHUTTING DOWN THE ROADS.
AND GOING TO MAKE ANY OTHER MOTION ON THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT I
APPEAL THAT CONSTITUENTS ARE WATCHING STARTING TO SEND
E-MAILS TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE THE MAYOR.
YOU GOT TO FIX THIS.
WE HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH MOBILITY.
GRIDLOCK ALL OVER THE CITY.
POTHOLES ALL OVER THE CITY.
ROADS FALLING APART.
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE MOBILITY ARE SPENDING TIME ARGUING
ABOUT A RED LIGHT ON FRANKLIN STREET.
SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ENGINEERS TO FIGHT THE
CITY OVER A RED LIGHT WE DON'T NEED, THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WE
DON'T NEED.
AND -- AND INSTEAD, THEY SHOULD BE FIXING THESE PROBLEMS.
TELL THE POLICE WHO ARE THERE TO OPERATE THE PLAN.
TELL THEM NOT TO SHUT DOWN THE ROAD HAPHAZARDLY.
GO TO NO NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
SOME OF THE WORST ROADS EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY.
IT IS RIDICULOUS THIS IS HAPPENING.
WE GOT TO PRIORITIZE.
AGAIN, I WOULD APPEAL TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
PLEASE STEP IN.
WE GOT TO REORGANIZE.
YOU KNOW WE HAVE MORALE ISSUES AND STAFFING ISSUES SINCE THE
LADIES TESTIFIED.
A FLOOD OF FORMER EMPLOYEES.
I KNOW 12 OF THE SENIOR MANAGERS OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT
HAVE LEFT BECAUSE THEY ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE
BEING RUN.
THE COMMUNITY IS UNHAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE RUNNING.
WHEN IS THE MAJOR GOING TO CHANGE IT.
PUBLIC IS FED-UP.
NOT DIRECTING FOR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR STANDING IN FRONT OF US, AND I HOPE THAT YOU
CONTINUE TO HELP US IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, BUT SYSTEMIC
ISSUES THAT WE NEED LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY.
NOT CITY COUNCIL'S PLACE.
ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK.
WE ARE GETTING HIT BY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF COMPLAINTS
ABOUT THIS.
THANK YOU.
03:20:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN.
03:20:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW.
I WAS GOING TO SAY I AGREE WITH THE BILL FOR 100% AND
THEN YOU PIVOTED.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, THE ISSUE HE SPEAKS OF DOWNTOWN, HE
IS 100% CORRECT.
AND I HAVE ACTUALLY STOPPED MY CAR AT LEAST TWO TIMES AND
SPOKE TO THE POLICE OFFICER AT THE CORN OF FRANKLIN -- WHAT
IS IT -- PLATT?
IS IT PLATT?
FRANKLIN AND PLATT.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT I DIDN'T LIVE ANOTHER FOR 40 SOMETHING
YEARS.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING?
THEY HOLD UP TRAFFIC.
CAUSE THE BACK-UP.
AGAIN, IF THEY -- IF THEY CORRALL PEOPLE, LET THEM GO WITH
THE LIGHTS, THINGS WILL MOVE.
BUT THEY DON'T.
IT IS PROBLEMATIC.
ON TOP OF THAT COMING OFF THE CROSSTOWN AT MORGAN, THEY
FORCE PEOPLE TO MAKE THE RIGHT TURN NORTHBOUND PUTTING THEM
BACK INTO THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA TRAFFIC COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM
INSTEAD OF LETTING TRAFFIC GO ON THE ONE-WAY STREET
STRAIGHT AHEAD.
AND NO SIGNAGE ON THE CROSSTOWN INDICATING THAT YOU CAN'T GO
OFF AND GO STRAIGHT.
AGAIN, THEY FORCE INTO DOWNTOWN WHICH BACKS UP KENNEDY AND
ALL THESE CROSS STREETS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON AND IS THIS A
TAMPA PD ISSUE.
A MOBILITY ISSUE.
SOME LEVEL OF INCOMPETENCE THAT IS ABSOLUTELY DRIVING ME
CRAZY WHEN I WITNESS IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
I AM -- WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM?
COMING FROM MOBILITY OR TAMPA PD?
03:22:21PM >> WE WORK WITH TP IN CONCERT ON THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN.
AND SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE ISSUE OF THE RAMP ON TO BOREIN.
HISTORICALLY, THAT THROUGH MOVEMENT HAS BEEN CLOSED OFF.
FAIRLY RECENTLY, WE HAVE BEEN OPENING THAT BACK UP.
THAT IS ONE OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE COME OUT --
03:22:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO AM COMING FROM EAST TO WEST, COMING OFF
THE CROSSTOWN, AND -- WHERE THEY MAKE YOU TURN RIGHT ON TO
MORGAN IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
03:22:52PM >> YES.
03:22:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE KEEPING THAT OPEN?
03:22:56PM >> YES, CORRECT.
03:22:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CURSE YOU OUT EVERY TIME I GET ON THAT
CROSSTOWN.
03:23:01PM >> THAT IS OUR COOPERATION.
03:23:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK SAY I HAD SOMETHING ABOUT TO THE
CHIEF AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND VIK.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID THAT INTERSECTION AT FRANKLIN
AND PLATT.
IT IS A MESS.
AND SEEMS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT IT IS AN -- IT IS AS
CONTROL ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE RESOLVED.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE -- WHEN YOU HAVE THAT IMPACT, BACKING
TRAFFIC DOWN BAYSHORE, YOU KNOW, PAST ROME OR MORE, I MEAN,
CLEARLY YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT IS A ONE-WAY STREET.
TRAFFIC IS ABLE TO FLOW ON A ONE-WAY STREET.
AND YOU HAVE CYCLE LIGHTS.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID, USED THE CYCLE OF LIGHTS.
AT LEAST IT SHOULD BE FLOWING, INSTEAD OF JUST COMPLETE
GRIDLOCK.
03:23:53PM >> AT THAT INTERSECTION, I THINK YOU KNOW WE DID CHANGE THE
PHASING AND REDUCED THE CROSSING TIME ACROSS THAT SOUTH
LAKE, AND ADDED THE RIGHT TURN ARROW.
THERE IS STILL A COMPLIANCE COMPONENT TO THAT MAYBE IS NOT
ALWAYS FOLLOWED.
WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT CHANGE.
03:24:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WON'T GIVE YOU ONE POSITIVE FEEDBACK OF
IT BECAUSE IT IS STILL A MESS.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY -- IT SHOULDN'T BE ROCKET SCIENCE.
IT IS -- AGAIN, I -- I NEVER STOP.
I NEVER CRITICIZE PEOPLE BECAUSE I AM A BIG SUPPORTER OF THE
TAMPA PD.
BUT I SAID, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING?
THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
IT IS JUST -- I SIT HERE AND WATCH THIS.
I WAS SITTING THERE IN THE LEFT LANE AND WATCH WHAT THEY ARE
DOING, AND I AM GOING, IT IS TERRIBLE.
JUST TERRIBLE.
TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE.
03:24:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MIRANDA AND HURTAK.
03:24:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
KNOW I AM A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
IN FACT I AM A LOT DIFFERENT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM, WHAT CAUSED IT?
IT AIN'T THE CARS.
IT IS NOT THE INTERSECTION.
IT IS NOT THE POTHOLES.
SO WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE.
IT IS NOT A HARD THING TO FIGURE OUT.
JUST YESTERDAY I WAS IN TOWN AND COUNTRY ABOUT 5:15, 5:20, I
STARTED HEADED EAST.
ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
BY THE TIME I GOT TO THE SECOND RUNWAY TO THE EAST OF TAMPA
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, FROM THERE TO HABANA WHICH CAN'T BE
MORE THAN THREE HOURS, IT TOOK ME 42 MINUTES TO GET THERE.
YOU KNOW WHY?
IT WASN'T THE PEOPLE.
IT WASN'T THE CARS.
IT WAS THE TRAFFIC.
WHAT WAS THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA 15 YEARS AGO?
WHAT WAS IT FIVE YEARS AGO?
WHAT WAS IT THREE YEARS AGO?
HOW MANY CARS -- YOU CAN'T LOOK AT TAMPA, YOU HAVE TO LOOK
AT THE SURROUNDING GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OF ST. PETE.
WHY DO YOU THINK BUILT A NEW BRIDGE -- THE HOWARD FRANKLAN,D
BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BUILD IT?
I KEPT SAYING IF YOU EXTEND THE FREEWAY, DON'T WORRY, YOU
WILL LIVE IT.
AND WON'T CHANGE EVERYONE'S HABIT UNTIL YOU MAKE THEM DO IT.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.
IT IS NOT THE CARS BUT THE PEOPLE THANK HAVE COME IN TO
PASCO, PINELLAS COUNTY, BRADENTON AND SARASOTA.
ALL OF THAT AREA MOVES AROUND ON A DAILY BASIS.
IT GETS THERE ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE -- AND HAY IT TO TALK
TO SCHOOLS ARE NOW -- WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL A BICYCLE OR
WALK.
NOW EVERYBODY DRIVES TO SCHOOL.
THE PARENT DROPS OFF THE LITTLE KID, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
TALKING ABOUT WESTSHORE AND ALL THAT.
JULIA AND WESTSHORE AND YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE IN THE
MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON WITH ONE OF THE NICEST FEMALE
SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY LET'S OUT.
YOU CAN'T GET IN.
AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT.
YOU DO THE SAME THING ON BOSS PRE AND ARMENIA.
YOU DO THE SAME THING ON HIMES THE OTHER SCHOOL.
YOU DO THE SAME THING WHERE EVERYBODY DRIVES.
AND THE PROBLEM CAN BE NOT BE SAYING FIX IT.
THE PROBLEM IS, HOW DO YOU FIX IT.
NOT JUST YOU -- YOU ARE JUST A RAT TAKING A HEAT.
I HATE TO TELL YOU LOST FOUR INCHES SINCE YOU STARTED TALKING.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND IT IS OUR
PROBLEM.
NOT YOUR PROBLEM.
IT IS EVERYBODY'S PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE HAVE GROWN SO FAST AND SO RAPIDLY THAT IT IS LIKE A
GROWTH SPURT ON A TEENAGE THAT CAN'T FIND HIS WAY TO PLAY
BASKETBALL BECAUSE THE BODY IS SO BIG -- GREW UP AND
SAILED OOH, I AM AN ALL-AMERICAN.
THE SAME THING.
YOU HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS AND DIFFERENT -- EVERYBODY WANTS A
CAR.
THAT IS WHAT LIFE IS.
I AM NOT SAYING IT IS THE RIGHT THING, BUT I AM SAYING THE
PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE OUTGROWN ALL OF OUR FACILITIES.
AND LET ME TELL YOU ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE NEVER BROUGHT
UP.
YOU THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM NOW?
WHAT ABOUT 30 TO 40 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN YOU RUN OUT OF
WATER.
20 YEARS AGO, OUR POPULATION -- 30 YEARS AGO, POPULATION
250,000.
NOW WE ARE SERVING NOT ONLY US BUT THE FED, THE STATE MADE
US -- LINE GOING OUT TO THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE OVER 700,000 OF 250.
GUESS WHAT.
IT WAS 82 MILLION GALLONS THEN.
A 82 GALLONS NOW.
IF YOU HAVE A MINIATURE DROUGHT, YOU WILL BUY A LOT OF
WATER.
THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO TELL YOU.
NOT TELL YOU FROM WHERE AND HOW.
AND THEY WILL SAY MIRANDA DID THIS ON PURPOSE.
I AM BRINGING THE FACTS ARE THAT.
THOSE ARE THE FACTS.
YOU WANT TO SOLVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, TAKE 40% OF THE CARS OFF.
THAT THE INCREASE YOU HAD.
AND YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM.
YOU WON'T WANT TO LIVE LONG, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO
DRIVE A CAR.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU FACILITATE EVERYTHING THE BEST YOU CAN.
WE HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT IS NOT LASERED IN.
TWO CARS ARE IN.
AND UNTIL WE GET FIVE CARS.
WE DON'T HAVE NONE OF THAT EQUIPMENT I KNOW OF.
I KNOW IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND PUT IN ONE AREA.
THOSE THINGS ARE NEEDED AND THOSE THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE.
A BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL -- EVERYBODY INVENTS SOMETHING NEW
AND BECOMES MULTIMILLIONAIRES AND WHAT MAKE IS ALL ABOUT.
I WILL STOP NOW.
THANK YOU FOR LET ME SPEAK, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:29:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:29:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
PROBLEM IS CARS.
I DISAGREE, EVERYBODY WANTS A CAR.
IF I COULD GET RID OF MY CAR TOMORROW, I WOULD.
I KIND OF DO, BECAUSE I TAKE THE BUS EVERYWHERE AND HOP ON A
BIKE.
BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS, IS THERE A TIME THAT WE
CAN JUST SIMPLY TRY NOT PUTTING THE BARRIERS UP?
LIKE ONE WEEKEND WHERE WE CAN GO, LET'S GIVE IT AGREE?
03:30:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
03:30:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM SERIOUSLY ASKING BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT
EVERYONE IS SAYING.
IS THERE A WAY WE CAN JUST TRY IT.
AND THEN IF WE ARE WRONG, WE OWN UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE
JUST HAD TO GIVE IT AGREE.
03:30:13PM >> I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO TPD ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS
ABOUT THAT.
WE WORKED TO TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PRODUCT THAT IS PUT
OUT.
BUT, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF THOSE
IMPLEMENTING AND ENFORCING IT AS WELL.
03:30:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, WELL MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO
HAVE IS TO HAVE MOBILITY AND TPD COMES IN.
I THINK THAT JUST ONCE, LET'S GIVE IT A ONE-WEEK OR THREE
DAY -- SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO SAY, OKAY, JUST PROVE US
WRONG.
BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE PUT SOME THINGS BACK
THAT HAVE WORKED, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST -- WOULD LOVE TO HEAR
WHAT TPD HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
BECAUSE IF IT IS NOT JUST Y'ALL, CURIOUS WHAT THEY WILL HAVE
TO SAY.
03:30:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SEE WHAT I DO TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC
CONGESTION IS I JUST WALK DOWN TO AMALIE AND WALK TO THE
CONVENTION CENTER AND TAKE THE STREETCAR INTO YBOR.
AND I DON'T SIT IN TRAFFIC, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS ME.
03:31:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REFERENCE ABOUT TAKING CARS OFF THE
STREETS.
FOR THOSE OF US WHO SERVE ON TPO, THEY WILL TELL YOU IT IS A
PRIORITIZATION ISSUE.
WE HAD SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVES OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA VOTE TO SPEND A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS TO
ADD ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC BETWEEN HILLSBOROUGH AND BEARSS.
ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CARS WE CAN TAKE OFF THE ROADS IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA WITH HALF A BILLION WITH OTHER MIXED MODAL
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS?
HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.
THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.
WE SERVE WITH FOLKS THAT ARE BEHOLDENED TO AN OLD MODEL OF
MOVING PEOPLE AROUND INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT NEW
OPPORTUNITIES.
I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE
FROM COHEN AND KEMP AT THE TIME AND THE THREE OF US SERVE
ON PTO -- AND COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS AS WELL.
WE ALL VOTED AGAINST IT AND THE FOLKS FROM THE NONELECTED
PEOPLE AND FOLKS FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION VOTED IN FAVOR
OF IT.
AGAIN, A PRIORITIZATION ISSUE.
I AM SORRY, I KNOW YOU ARE STANDING THERE TAKING ALL THE
HEAT BECAUSE MOST OF THIS STUFF DOES NOT CONCERN YOU AND MY
MOMENT TO PONTIFICATE OF YOU WITH THAT.
AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, WE BALANCE OUT THE GREATEST
AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
WHAT WOULD THE CITY -- AND AM I ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO
PUTTING LANE OF TRAFFIC.
NO.
WE HAVE TO BALANCE OUT.
GIVE ME A HALF A BILLION.
WHERE ON MY PRIORITY LIST WILL ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC BE WAY
DOWN IN THE BOTTOM OF LIST.
I WOULD HAVE FULFILLED 30 OTHERS THINGS BEFORE HE SPENT HALF
A BILLION DOLLARS TO ADD ONE DAMN LANE OF TRAFFIC ON
TO I-275 BETWEEN HILLS AND BEARSS.
PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THAT SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES
AND INDICATION OF LACK OF RESPECT AND LACK OF UNDERSTANDING
HOW WE MOVE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:33:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY MORE?
YES, SIR?
03:33:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST ONE LAST THING.
I KNOW THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT IS ON VACATION.
AND WELL-DESERVED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, HE HAS A BOSS.
AND THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS SHOULD BE HERE.
AND I DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY INVITE TPD.
AND I HAVE THE GREATEST RESPECT FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, BUT
THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN DIRECTION BY SOMEBODY, BECAUSE THE
PLAN THAT IS THERE THIS JUST NOT WORKING.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS ISN'T
HERE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS IS NOT
FIXING THE PROBLEM.
GO TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND MAYOR FOR GO AHEAD AND FIX THIS
DEPARTMENT.
I AM TO THE POINT I WILL STOP VOTING FOR ANY NEW FUNDING FOR
ANY PROBLEMS FOR MOBILITY UNTIL SOMEBODY FIXES PROBLEM IN
MOBILITY.
THIS IS A HUGE SYSTEMIC ISSUE.
WE HAVE APPARENTLY GOT TO START MAKING SOME BIG DECISIONS TO
GET -- GET MOVEMENT HERE.
THE PUBLIC IS NOT HAPPY AT ALL.
AND WE HAVE GOT-TO-FIX THIS.
AGAIN, IT IS NOT YOUR ISSUE, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, THE MAYOR
AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF HAVE SAID STOP FIGHTING US.
STOP FIGHTING NEIGHBORHOODS ON SOMETHING LIKE A RED LIGHT
AND START DEMANDING THAT -- THAT THE BETTER TRAFFIC PLAN BE
MANAGED.
TAKE YOU TO THE THESE PASSENGERS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
BIG CITIES DON'T DO THIS.
WE ARE ACTING LIKE A SMALL TOWN IN THE WAY WE ARE MANAGING
IT.
03:34:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU MUCH.
OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGE IS ABBYE FEELEY.
TWO?
WHICH IS THE OTHER ONE.
SO, IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
03:34:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT IS GONE.
03:34:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT, YES, MISS FEELEY, GO AHEAD.
03:35:04PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY.
I'M HERE WITH THE MONTHLY UPDATE ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
CODE UPDATE.
AND I AM -- I AM EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE PUBLIC
ASSESSMENT OF THE CODE WENT OUT ON FEBRUARY 12.
AND WHAT I PROVIDED FOR YOU TODAY IS -- IS A QUICK HANDOUT
THAT HAS THE THEMES OF THAT ASSESSMENT.
WHAT THE ASSESSMENT DOES IS IT LOOKS AT HOW OUR CODE WAS
WORKING AND HOW OUR CODE WAS NOT WORKING AND DEVELOPED A
ROADMAP FOR HOW THE UPDATE IS GOING TO GO.
AND THAT IS THE PROJECT THEMES THAT ARE CONTAINED ON THE
HANDOFF.
THAT WILL SERVE AS A ROADMAP FOR HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
03:35:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU PUT THAT ON THE --
03:36:02PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
SURE.
03:36:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN -- NO, WOLF.
03:36:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAD A HAWK, A DOG AND A WOLF.
03:36:11PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
EACH MONTH, THEY COME TO YOU.
I GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE.
WHAT IS GOING ON.
THE ADVISORY TEAM DID MEET ON THE ASSESSMENT.
THEY HAD TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS.
I KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS PRESENT FOR BOTH OF
THOSE.
WHERE THEY PROVIDED FEEDBACK.
AND THE -- AND OUR CONSULTANT TEAM DID MAKE SOME
MODIFICATIONS BEFORE THE ASSESSMENT THEN BECAME A PUBLIC
DOCUMENT.
BECAUSE THAT IS OUT NOW ON THE TAMPA FORWARD WEBSITE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS A SURVEY INSTRUMENT OUT THERE
THAT GOES THEME BY THEME TO ASK THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR
FEEDBACK.
WE ARE NOW WORKING TO GET READY FOR THE NEXT PUBLIC MEETING,
WHICH WILL BE MARCH AT THE CITY CENTER FROM 7 TO 8:30.
CLARION WILL BE PRESENTING.
BUT REMEMBER AT MY MONTHLY UPDATE LAST MONTH, I HAD ASKED --
WE HAD HOPED THAT THE PUBLIC MEETING WAS GOING TO BE
FEBRUARY.
AND A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL WITH CLARION ON FEBRUARY 6.
HOWEVER, THE ADVISORY TEAM DID HAVE AN EXTRA MEETING AND
PUSHED BECAUSE BACK A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THAT IN ORDER
TO ALLOW USES TO HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ON THE ASSESSMENT.
SO MARCH 3 WILL BE THE PUBLIC MEETING AT HANNAH.
AND MARCH 6, CLARION WILL BE COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO
MAKE A BRIEF 15- TO 20-MINUTE PRESENTATION TO BRING
YOU INTO THE DISCUSSION OF WHERE WE ARE ON THIS CONTRACT AND
THE CODE UPDATE.
AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.
SO THE NEXT STEPS -- AND ON THE BACK OF THAT HAND OUT, THERE
IS A TIMELINE.
AND IT SHOWS YOU HERE WE ARE.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC TOUCHPOINTS DURING THIS PROJECT.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE BEEN UPDATING THE WEB SITE.
WE NOW DO A MONTHLY ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE WEBSITE.
THIS MONTH, I AM THERE DOING A QUICK VIDEO ASKING FOR PEOPLE
TO COME OUT TO THE MEETING.
TELLING THEM WHAT THE ASSESSMENT IS ABOUT.
SO WHEN WE -- THE NEXT STEP WILL BE THE CODE UPDATE.
AND THAT WILL COME IN THREE DIFFERENT INSTALLMENTS AND EACH.
AS YOU ALL KNOW OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS QUITE LARGE.
AND IN THIS STREAMLINING AND REORGANIZATION, IT WILL COME IN
THREE INSTALLMENTS.
EACH OF THOSE INSTALLMENTS WILL GO TO THE ADVISORY TEAM AND
GO TO THE PUBLIC AND THE SAME FORMAT THAT WE ARE DOING WITH
THE ASSESSMENT AS WELL.
SO ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS NOW UP ON THE TAMPA FORWARD
PAGE AS WELL.
AND WE ARE MOVING -- WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING.
SO FOR MARCH 6, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE
-- I THINK WHEN WE WERE COMING BACK ON FEBRUARY 6, YOU HAD
GIVEN US AS TIME CERTAIN FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
AND IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
AS YOU KNOW, CLARION IS ON CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, AND I AM
TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THE HOURS THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO
BE THERE.
THEY WILL BE IN TOWN THAT MONDAY AND WILL BE IN TOWN THAT
THURSDAY.
THEY ARE WORKING ON OTHER CONTRACTUAL THINGS TUESDAY AND
WEDNESDAY, AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE LIKE 10:30 ON FEBRUARY 6.
BUT IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, I WOULD REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT.
IF NOT --
03:39:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU MEAN MARCH 6?
03:39:31PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
MARCH 6.
03:39:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MARCH 6 AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:39:35PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT WILL BE GREAT.
03:39:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT GOOD WITH COUNCIL?
A MOTION FOR CLARION TO BE AVAILABLE RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC
COMMENT ON MARCH 6, WHICH A REGULAR MEETING.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
BILL CARLSON: SHE WAS SUGGESTING A TIME CERTAIN FOR 10:30.
03:39:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR CALENDARS FOR THAT DAY.
YOU HAVE A REVIEW HEARING SCHEDULE FOR 10:30.
AND YOU HAVE ORDINANCES SCHEDULED FOR SECOND READING.
03:40:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT IT IS ALREADY ON HERE.
LAST THING UNDER STAFF REPORT.
WE ARE ASKING IT TO BE MOVED UP.
03:40:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CERTAINLY.
HE UNDERSTAND -- FRANKLY, I WOULD THINK -- I DON'T KNOW
WHETHER YOU WANT TO -- -- IF YOU SET IT FOR 10 D 30, TO
CONFLICT WITH THE REVIEW HEARING.
WOULD YOU PULL THIS FOR THE REVIEW HEARING OR DO THE
REVIEWER HEARING.
03:40:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DIDN'T DO A TIME CERTAIN.
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:40:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TAKE CLARION FIRST AND GO TO THE REVIEW
HEARING.
03:40:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
03:40:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW LONG IT PRESENT.
03:40:37PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
15 TO 20 MINUTES, YES.
03:40:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REVIEW HEARING IF IT IS A LITTLE BIT
AFTER THE FACT, THEN -- BECAUSE THEY -- THEY CHARGE US AS
THEY WAIT.
DON'T THEY GO BY THE HOUR OR WHATEVER?
03:40:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I IMAGINE PUBLIC WILL WANT TO COMMENT.
DO IT PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND GIVE THE PUBLIC AN
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT.
03:41:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONLY THING IS WE HAVE THREE PRESENTATIONS.
WE WILL HAVE TO ASK FOR ONE OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS TO THE
MOVED.
PLAYER OF THE MONTH, FIRE FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER AND
PURCHASING DEPARTMENT CELEBRATING PURCHASING MONTH.
03:41:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE MOVE PURCHASING?
03:41:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA'S MOTION.
MOVE IT TO ANOTHER DATE COMPLETELY?
03:41:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YEAH, WE CAN MOVE THAT.
03:41:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO THE 27th.
WE HAVE ROOM ON THE 27th.
03:41:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEW BUSINESS.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION NOW?
03:41:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
03:41:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THE PURCHASING
DEPARTMENT PURCHASING MONTH COMMENDATION FROM MARCH 6 AT 9
A.M. TO MARCH 27 AT 9 A.M.
03:41:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FINE WITH ME.
I GUESS SENDING -- SEND AN E-MAIL TO THEM.
03:41:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT SUR WHY MOTION.
A SECOND.
03:41:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
03:41:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THAT OPENS THAT UP.
03:42:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AGAIN, CAN WE HAVE THAT MOTION AGAIN?
BECAUSE THAT MOTION MOVED COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA'S.
03:42:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FROM THE 6 TO THE --
03:42:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MISS FEELEY, YOU ARE LAST ON THE STAFF
REPORT.
03:42:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET ME DO THAT.
I WILL MOVE THE CLARION LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REFORM PROCESS
UPDATE TO THE 9 A.M. PRESENTATION FOR 15 TOO 20 MINUTES.
03:42:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I WOULD NOT HAVE A CODE UPDATE FOR THAT YOU
DAY, BECAUSE CLEARLY WE ARE GOING USE THAT TIME
COLLABORATIVELY WITH CLARION TO PROVIDE THAT UPDATE.
03:42:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
03:42:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
YES.
YES.
03:42:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ADDING THE ASSESSMENT, THE PUBLIC
ASSESSMENT.
THE PUBLIC -- THE VERSION OF THE ASSESSMENT ON THE TAMPA
FORWARD PAGE.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET THE ADVISORY MEETINGS TO BE POSTED
ONLINE TOO.
WHERE ARE WE ON THAT?
03:42:58PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I WILL CHECK WITH COMMUNICATIONS.
03:43:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
03:43:02PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ON WHERE THOSE ARE.
03:43:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THOSE NEED TO BE POSTED.
ANYBODY WHO REALLY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT IS IN THAT ASSESSMENT.
THAT IS A GREAT PLACE FOR THEM TO START INSTEAD OF READING
THE WHOLE ASSESSMENT.
IF YOU CAN JUST GET BACK TO MY OFFICE AND LET ME KNOW WHERE
WE ARE ON THAT, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
03:43:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYTHING ELSE, MISS FEELEY?
03:43:22PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
03:43:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA.
NEW.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:43:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE A COUPLE, ASKING OFFICER WHITMER,
CHARGED WITH SOLICITING BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR THINGS FOR
THE CITY AND WORKING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO COME
BEFORE US.
I DON'T HAVE DATES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:43:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SOMEWHAT IS IT, AGAIN, SIR?
03:43:49PM >> INVITE THE CHIEF OF RESILIENCY AND SOLAR TO CHANGE THE
ENERGY VALUES TO COME AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHAT -- WHAT
THE COST WILL BE ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND WE LOOKED AT THIS TODAY.
WHAT WILL BE THE COST IN ALL OF THE PARKS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
IS GOING ON.
03:44:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO APRIL 17.
03:44:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT IS FINE WITH ME.
03:44:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
03:44:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
03:44:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
ANYTHING ELSE?
03:44:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WENT TO REFRESH MYSELF -- I WENT TO THE
OFFICE AND CLEARED MY HEAD.
I REALIZED I MADE A MISTAKE.
03:44:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
03:44:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, I DID.
THE MISTAKE I NEVER INCLUDED THE 9% TO 14% OF ELECTRICITY
GOING UP WHEN DISCUSSING THE ITEM OF SOLAR.
ALSO, MADE ANOTHER MISTAKE, THAT COST IS CONSTANT WITH SOLAR.
IT DOES NOT GO UP FOR THE YEAR -- 20-YEAR LIFE IT DOES NOT
GO UP.
I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE.
YOU MADE A MISTAKE.
03:44:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO FORGIVE.
GET A MOTION?
NO?
I WILL FORGIVE YOU.
03:44:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOTION TO CHASTISE CHARLIE MIRANDA FOR
HIS MISTAKE.
03:44:58PM >> SECOND.
03:44:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
LEAVE THE DRAGON ALONE.
03:45:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE FORGIVENESS DIDN'T GET A SECOND.
03:45:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SEE WHO VOTES FOR THAT.
03:45:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:45:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUPLE OF QUICK ONES.
YOU HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE
RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE AND THE MOTION THAT PASSED.
CHIEF BENEFIT THAT DOES A GOOD JOB OF TALKING TO PEOPLE AND
BEING A BRIDGE BUILDER IS WORKING ON TAKING CARE OF THE
ISSUE.
THE MAIN ISSUE WAS -- I WON'T GO INTO THE WEEDS, BUT -- BUT
THE COMMITTEE FEELING THAT THEY NEEDED SOME SUBJECT MATTER
EXPERTS THERE.
CHIEF BENNETT IS WORKING ON THEM WITH THAT.
HOWEVER, TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS DOING,
I WANTED THE MOTION TO FORWARD THE FOLLOWING MOTION BY THE
RACIAL RECONCILLIATION MEETING TO ADMINISTRATION AND THE
MOTION IS AS FOLLOWS: THAT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY FOR THE
CITY OF TAMPA RACIAL RECONCILIATION MEETINGS GOING FORWARD.
WE REQUEST THAT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT COMPLETES AN
ANALYSIS WORKSHEET THAT CORRESPONDS TO THE AREA AND
ADDRESSES THAT POLICY AREA AND ATTENDS THAT CORRESPONDING
MEETING.
THAT IS THE MOTION THEY PASSED.
I AM JUST IN SUPPORT OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
03:46:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
03:46:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
03:46:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO, OF COURSE.
I TRY TO GO TO THE MEETING.
FIRST I DIDN'T BECAUSE OF A LEGAL CASE THING IN MISSOURI,
THE OTHER TWO I HAVE BEEN IN.
AND YOU KNOW -- IT IS NEAT TO WATCH ALL THAT.
ANOTHER ONE THAT -- I HAVE A OF QUICK ONES.
A COMMENDATION TO BE GIVEN OFF PREMISE TO FALERO RAMOS.
HART WORKERS EVERY YEAR GO TO LOCATIONS.
ONE YEAR, THEY HAD IN HILLSBOROUGH.
ONE YEAR IN GAINESVILLE WHERE THEY DO A BUS RODEO AND THE
BUS WORKER FALERO CAME IN FIRST, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL.
03:47:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS COOL.
03:47:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
KIND OF COOL.
LIKE A MONSTER TRUCK THING BUT NOT REALLY.
I LIKED IT.
03:47:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
YES, SIR.
03:47:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
REALLY QUICKLY.
A MOTION -- I WAS TALKING TO STAFF ABOUT MEMORIAL AND
MONUMENT POLICY, AND THEY WERE INTERESTED IN HAVING COUNCIL
PROSPECTIVELY AUTHORIZE STAFF TO COME BACK AND BRING US TO A
MEMORIAL AND MONUMENT POLICY.
SO THEREFORE -- I CAN GET INTO WHAT THAT WILL BE.
MOTION FOR STAFF FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AND THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE
PROSPECTIVE ESTABLISHMENT OF A MONUMENT AND MORE THE POLICY
OF OUTDOOR MONUMENTS IN THE CITY PROPERTY AND STAFF PROVIDE
A WRITTEN REPORT OUTLINING POLICY PROPOSALS FOR MAY 15.
THIS WILL BE ON -- ON -- THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA FOR MEMORIALS AND MONUMENTS.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MY UNDERSTAND THERE IS ONE.
AND WE WILL HAVE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
03:48:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:48:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
03:48:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HURTAK, CARLSON -- -- I MEAN CARLSON AND
HURTAK.
03:48:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE GOING TO SAY THE
SAME THING.
WE WERE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
STARTED TALKING OF NAMING AND A NAMING POLICY.
THE ADMINISTRATION CAME UP WITH A WHOLE POLICY WHICH IS
GREAT.
AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAYS OH, THE MAYOR GETS TO IS HE
SIDE.
WITH WE HAD TO PUSH BACK FOR A YEAR ALLOWING EACH OF US,
CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO NAME -- THE CHARTER IS SILENT
TO IT.
THE CHARTER IS SILENT TO MEMORIAL.
SO I WOULD SAY TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND WHOEVER IS GOING
TO DO THIS, PLEASE DON'T COME BACK WITH SOMETHING WE WILL
HAVE TO EDIT AND ONLY THE MAYOR HAS THE POWER TO DO THIS.
THANK YOU.
03:48:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:48:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY COMMENT IS WHEN STAFF COMES BACK, THEY
ABSOLUTELY INVOLVE THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT IS THE ISSUE.
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS ARE COMING.
SO THAT WILL BE A BIG, BIG ONE FOR ME.
SO FOR THEM TO INCLUDE -- HOW THEY ARE GOING TO INVOLVEMENT
COMMUNITY.
03:49:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
A GREAT EDITION AND I AM HOPEFUL THEY ARE
WATCHING.
THERE YOU GO.
03:49:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL TAKE A 15-FOOT EFFIGY OF MYSELF.
03:49:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
LAST --
03:49:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE LAST ONE --
03:49:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THE LAST ONE IS A MOTION YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AGO.
LOCAL 754 TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS WERE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION
FROM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO DO THEIR OWN PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER
PLAN.
ADMINISTRATION HAD DONE ONE IN 2022.
THEY ARE WORKING ON UPDATING IT.
LOCAL 754 WANTED CERTAIN INFORMATION AND REQUESTED IT
THROUGH COUNCIL.
I PUT IT MARCH 27.
LET'S -- WHAT IS THE FIRST DATE IN APRIL?
03:49:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
APRIL 3.
03:50:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF TFR NEEDS MORE TIME ON THIS, THAT IS
TOTALLY FINE.
MOTION OF THE FOLLOWING ASK OF 754 TO REQUEST A WRITTEN
REPORT.
AGAIN, NOT ANY REPORT HERE BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT A WRITTEN
REPORT ON APRIL 30 AND EVEN MORE TIME THAT IS 100% FINE.
LOCAL 754 FORMALLY REQUESTS AVAILABLE GIS AND
COMPUTER-AIDED DATA FOR '20 TO 2024 TO INCLUDE OUR RELEVANT
TIME STAMPS SPELLED OUT IN THE WRITTEN REQUEST FOR
COMPREHENSIVE STAFFING AND WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS AND EMS OPERATION
DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS INFORMATION THAT WAS RECEIVED FOR THEIR 2019 PUBLIC
SAFETY MASTER PLAN THAT THEY WOULD NEED FOR AN UPDATED ONE.
AGAIN, FOR SOME REASON IF TFR FEELS THEY CAN'T DO THAT
PROVIDE IT IN A WRITTEN REPORT.
IF THEY NEED MORE TIME, I WILL BE GLAD.
03:51:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
03:51:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:51:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AMEND THE MOTION TO STRIKE THE
REFERENCE TO 754.
I THINK THERE ARE TWO THINGS HERE.
WE, AS COUNCIL. HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST INFORMATION.
AND THE UNION HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS WELL THROUGH
OTHER MEANS.
SO THEY HAVE OTHER LEGAL AVENUES AND MEANS.
SO I THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY -- IF YOU GO ET THIS
INFORMATION --
03:51:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FROM CITY COUNCIL, SURE.
THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION.
SO I HEARBY AMEND MY MOTION AS SUGGESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN TO BE A REQUEST FROM CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS OBVIOUSLY ON BEHALF OF 754, BUT BY CITY COUNCIL.
03:51:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:51:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALONG THOSE LINES ALSO, I WANT TO SAY I AM
SUPPORTING IT, BUT NO DISRESPECT TO CHIEF TRIPP.
SHE IS WORKING HARD TO WORK WITH ALL HER CONSTITUENTS
WITH THE LIMITED BUDGET AND RESOURCES SHE HAS.
AND HAVING ANOTHER GROUP HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA TO GIVE
THEIR OPINIONS LOOKING AT IT AS AN ADDITION REALLY
RESOURCE, NOTHING DISRESPECTFUL OF CHIEF.
03:52:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY.
ON THAT, I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON.
FUNNY BECAUSE THE THING THAT CHIEF TRIPP WANTS, THE FIRE
FIGHTER UNION WANTS.
WITHOUT GETTING INTO CONVERSATIONS, SHE -- THE FIRST THING
SHE DID WHEN GOT IN THERE WAS PUSH FOR STATION 25.
NOW THERE IS STATION 24 IN FLEET MAINTENANCE.
WE VOTED ON SOMETHING ON THAT TODAY WHICH IS GREAT.
THOSE ARE THE TWO BIGGEST PROJECTS.
AND CHIEF TRIPP AND LOCAL 754 ARE -- AGAIN, I WON'T SAY
MUCH, BUT THEY ARE PUSHING FORWARD.
AND SO THIS IS ON FEASIBILITY.
IF IT CAN'T BE DONE, LET US KNOW.
03:52:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCILMAN, IF I CAN, IF YOU CAN GET THAT
LANGUAGE AND MOTION TO THE CLERK.
THAT WILL BE GREAT.
03:52:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
03:52:54PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT.
03:52:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
03:52:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I WILL LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE REQUESTED WRITTEN
STAFF REPORT FOR THE JUNE 26 ON HIGH-RISE STRUCTURES IN
BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
I HAVE DONE MY DUE DILIGENCE ON MY OWN AND NOT NECESSARY TO
HAVE THAT.
03:53:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
03:53:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SAY THAT AGAIN.
WHAT IS THE MOTION?
03:53:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE MOTION TO PROVIDE STAFF ON HISTORICAL
ZONING OF HIGH-RISE IN BAYSHORE, FIVE STORIES OR TALLER.
I DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE.
03:53:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE.
03:53:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE?
03:53:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THIS IS PERSONAL.
ARIEL AMERA DANLEY, WATCHING FROM WASHINGTON D.C.
WISH YOU A HAPPY 35th BIRTHDAY FOR THE FIRST TIME PUBLICALLY
AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THIS WEEKEND.
03:53:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
03:53:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
35 IN THE ONE CLUB.
35, FEBRUARY 1, 10:51, 8 POUNDS, 6 OUNCES, 24 INCHES.
03:54:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WILL SHARE PICTURES OF HER LATER ON.
03:54:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE WILL BE IN DENVER SO --
03:54:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
03:54:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU INVEST MUCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OF THE EQUAL BUSINESS
OPPORTUNITY COUNCIL.
IT HAS BEEN INACTIVE SINCE COVID-19.
AS A RESULT, ALL OF THE TERMS OF THE MEMBERSHIP HAVE
EXPIRED.
WE HAVE 29 ACTIONS FROM ELIGIBLE CANDIDATES FROM THE SEVEN
AVAILABLE POSITIONS.
SO BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION -- AND YOU TELL ME YES OR NO FOR MARCH 6 OR MARCH 27.
MARCH 6 IS VERY BUSY .BUT WE SCHEDULE INTERVIEWS WITH THE
APPLICANTS ONCE AN INTERVIEW DATE IS SET.
WE WILL HAVE THE UPLOADED INDIVIDUAL ACTION FOR EACH
CANDIDATE IN ON BASE FOR OUR REVIEW.
03:55:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY ARE BOTH BUSY.
03:55:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE THOSE THE ONLY TWO DATES?
[INAUDIBLE]
03:55:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SINCE 2020.
03:55:15PM >> THE INTERVIEWS WILL TAKE PLACE HERE AND IN CHAMBERS.
03:55:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE ACTIONS
TO REVIEW.
03:55:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
03:55:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY I LOOK AT A LATER DATE LIKE APRIL
17.
03:55:29PM >>CLERK:
I WAS ABOUT TO RECOMMEND.
03:55:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I ASK?
YOU KNOW. THERE ARE SPECIFIC POSITIONS THAT EACH PERSON
FILLS.
I WAS WONDER GOING YOU COULD JUST SEND US THE ACTIONS
BECAUSE -- I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME -- I MEAN SITTING ON
THE VRB, WE NEVER GOT A TREE PERSON.
03:55:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE PUBLIC CAN'T HEAR.
03:55:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE TO GO UP TO THE --
03:55:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WAS THIS TODAY?
03:55:59PM >> PROBABLY A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.
03:56:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A DISCUSSION UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
03:56:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO HOW MANY INTERVIEWS DO WE REALLY NEED TO
DO THEN?
03:56:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP.
THEY MAY NOT ALL SHOW UP.
03:56:16PM >> EVEN IF THEY DON'T ALL SHOW UP, THEY STILL HAVE TO BE
CONSIDERED.
03:56:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM GOING TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, COUNCIL.
BECAUSE A RATHER COMPLEX SITUATION AND WITH APPOINTMENTS, I
NEVER FACED ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
MAYOR, AS YOU SAW, WAS DONE BECAUSE SUNSHINE LAW DOESN'T
APPLY.
ACTION HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH WHATEVER PROCESS.
THE DECISION BY THE MAYOR WAS MADE AND RESOLUTION AND PUT ON
THE AGENDA.
COUNCIL'S PROCESS IS VERY DIFFERENT.
HAS THE SUNSHINE LAW.
YOU CAN'T MAKE YOUR DECISIONS OUT OF THIS HEARING
INDIVIDUALLY, BRING THEM IN, HAVE THE CLERK ADDRESS IT.
COME UP WITH A SHEET TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
BEEN FOUND BY A COURT TO VIOLATE THE SUNSHINE LAW.
IT HAS TO BE DONE VERY DIFFERENT LOW.
MORE COMPLEX BECAUSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OUT OF THE
CRITERIA.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT, DON'T DO IT
ON MARCH 3, PUT IT LATER THAN THAT, BECAUSE --
03:57:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
17th OF APRIL.
03:57:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
APRIL 17.
03:57:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS MY MOTION.
APRIL 17.
I HAVE THIS HERE.
03:57:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CLOSE THAT DATE FOR ADDITIONAL NEW
BUSINESS.
03:57:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MADE THE MOTION AND THE SECOND.
03:57:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
THAT'S IT.
03:57:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
03:57:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DO.
I DO, I DO.
I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA
SAID THE IRONY THAT WHEN THE LABEL IS TAKEN OFF OF THE
BADGES, THEY WERE ALL FIRE FIGHTERS, WHETHER THEY ARE
MANAGEMENT OR SITTING IN THE TRUCKS.
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE.
SO IT IS ALWAYS IRONIC, THE ARTIFICIAL DIVIDE BETWEEN LABOR
AND MANAGEMENT.
I AS WE ALL HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED OF THE ISSUE OF GARAGE
WIDTHS.
I REACH AS MY WIT'S END.
I SAT DOWN AND Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF IT.
I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO REVIEW -- WROTE THE
LANGUAGE SO WE DON'T HAVE A TIMING ISSUE.
THEY JUST HAVE TO REVIEW IT TO MAKE SURE I DID IT MOTION FOR
STAFF TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO TAMPA MUNICIPAL CODE
PRIOR TO THE MEETING MARCH 6, 2025.
ADD RESIDENTIAL GARAGES WITH TWO OR MORE WALLS TO MEET THE
REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-283.7, THE NUMBER OF
OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES.
PARKING TABLE ONE, TABLE OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.
SECTION 27-283.1.2.
OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES AND CAR PARKING GARAGE LAYOUT.
AND A NEW PARKING TABLE THREE.
AND THE DIMENSION AND FEAT OF GARAGE OF PERPENDICULAR GARAGE
DOOR OF PERPENDICULAR PARKING 20 FEET.
GARAGE WIDTH WOULD BE 20 FEET.
GARAGE LENGTH BACK TO GARAGE DOOR.
AND DELETE THE REFERENCE TO TEN APARTMENTS WHICH IS -- WHICH
IS -- WHICH WILL ALLOW LANGUAGE CURRENTLY SAYS SECTION
27.283 OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR MAY AUTHORIZE THE REDUCTION OF THE
REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR THE FOLLOWING
SITUATIONS.
THREE TANDEM FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED OR SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED DESIGNS.
ADD THAT TANDEM PARKING IS ALLOWED.
SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ONE SPARKING SPACE IN 27-283.7.
NUMBER OF OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES, TABLE OF REQUIRED
SPACES.
AND -- THE REASON FOR THE DELETION OF TANDEM IS PART OF
ISSUE WITH THE GARAGE WIDTHS AND THE TANDEM PARKING IS IN
PRACTICE WHAT HAPPENS.
WHEN YOU HAVE UNDERSIZED GARAGES AND PEOPLE END UP PARKING
ACROSS THE SIDEWALKS, ACROSS BIKE LANES.
BLOCKING MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
BECAUSE THAT IS THE REALITY OF THE HUMAN BEHAVIOR.
AND THAT IS -- WHEN YOU HAVE THAT.
THEY ARE NOT.
THEY ARE NOT PARKING LIKE THAT.
THEY ARE COMING OUT OF THE GARAGE AND PARKING WHEREVER THEY
ARE GOING TO PARK.
THAT IS JUSTIFICATION.
SO I WILL I AM GOING TO MAKE -- HE AGAIN.
ABBYE HAD ADVANCED COPY OF IT.
AND THIS IS TURNKEY LANGUAGE HOPEFULLY AND ALL COPACETIC.
AND MAKE THE FINAL MOTION FOR AMENDING THE TAMPA CODE AND
IMPLEMENTATION GUIDELINES ON MARCH 6, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
HAVE A GUIDELINE OF -- THERE MAY BE PLANS THAT IN PROCESS AN
WE HAVE TO THAT DISCUSSION MARCH 6 OF HOW TO STAGGER THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS.
04:01:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
04:01:05PM >> I WILL SECOND IT.
04:01:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SECOND AND HURTAK WAS FIRST.
04:01:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO YOU ARE ONLY TALKING OF TANDEM GARAGE
PARKING?
04:01:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TANDEM PARKING TO MEET THE MINIMUM PARK --
SO TANDEM PARKING.
SO WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS -- THIS IS THE INTERESTING THING.
BY THE WAY, A MUNICIPAL CODE.
YOU WERE TOLD IT WAS TECHNICAL, IT IS NOT.
MUNICIPAL CODE.
REFERENCES FOR THE TECHNICAL GUIDELINES OF FEDERAL AND STATE
GUIDELINES ISN'T ABOUT GARAGES BUT PARKING SPOTS.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PARKING GARAGE AND GARAGE IS
A RELIANCE.
WHEN YOU OPEN UP A CAR DOOR, NOT A WALL THERE.
IT IS JUST IN THE PARKING LOT.
THAT IS THE -- THAT IS THE INTELLECT CAL INCONSISTENCY OF
EXTRAPOLATE PARKING SPACES TO A GARAGE.
THIS IS ALL IN REFERENCE TO MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
SO THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT IF IT WASN'T ATTEMPTS TO
MEET A MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT.
04:02:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I GUESS I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED.
I WILL SUPPORT YOU WITH NO TANDEM GARAGE PARKING.
THAT IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.
BUT IF THERE ARE ACTUALLY DRIVEWAYS.
MAINTAIN DEMOCRAT PARKING IS -- IS KIND OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE
DONE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM --
04:02:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL TAKE THE IOU TO CLARIFY --
04:02:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT IS COMING BACK
TO US.
04:02:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TANDEM PARKING WILL CAN PERMITTED IN A
SITUATION.
04:02:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BASICALLY HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE
HOUSING IN THE CITY IS TANDEM DRIVEWAYS.
HATE TO BREAK IT TO YOU, BUT ONE OF THE GREATEST WAYS WE CAN
DO THAT.
04:02:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE PROBLEM IS THE DRIVEWAY HAS TO BE LONG
ENOUGH SO NOT DOUBLE PARKED ON THE SIDEWALK OR THE BRICK
LANE.
04:03:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
100%.
WITH THE LENGTH FOR THE GARAGE, WANT TO ADD THAT.
LENGTH FOR TANDEM DRIVEWAYS.
I AM JUST SAYING.
I APPRECIATE YOUR ADDITION FOR THE GARAGE.
BECAUSE, YEAH, I WOULD TAKE OUT "TANDEM GARAGE PARKING," I
MEAN, LIKE PERIOD.
NO WAY PEOPLE ARE USING THAT.
PEOPLE HAVE BUILT THEM.
04:03:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
RIGHT IN CHANNELSIDE.
04:03:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOPEFULLY WE CAN IMPROVE THAT.
04:03:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LENGTH OF DRIVEWAY.
04:03:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
04:03:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I APPRECIATE THAT AND I AM NOT AGAINST
THAT AT ALL.
MY MIND GOES BACK HOW WE TREAT EVERYTHING DIFFERENTLY.
A TALL BUILDING WITH A GAR RACK ATTACHED TO IT, WE HAVE TO
HAVE A .04 PARKING RATIO AN PASSED SOME WITH .02.
DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REDUCTION IN A TALL
BUILDING BECAUSE THEY HAVE FRIENDS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND
VISIT THE ONE ON -- ON N. BOULEVARD AROUND CLEVELAND.
IT WILL BE A BANK RIGHT THERE.
AND THE BANK IS STILL CLOSED.
AND -- NOT A THING HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST -- THE ONE FROM
THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA THAT CAME AND COMPLAINED.
THE SAME AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PARKING.
AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
NOTHING AT ALL.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW IF WHAT WE DO FOR ONE.
WE LOOK FOR THE OTHER.
I AM NOT SAYING I AM AGAINST THAT.
04:04:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
04:04:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY SAVE FOR PEOPLE
TO GET THE DOORS SCRATCHED AND FIXED AND EVERYTHING ELSE AT
THE BODY SHOP.
04:04:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE YOU GO.
04:04:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
04:04:50PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ABBYE FEELEY.
IF I CAN ASK.
EVERYTHING FOR MARCH 6 IS DUE NEXT TUESDAY, THAT INCLUDES
THE LARGE SCALE SIGN REPORT AND A BUNCH OTHER THINGS.
AND GIVEN THE CONVERSATION THAT JUST HAPPENED ON THE DAIS
CONCERNING THIS MATTER, WE DID JUST BRING YOU A SET OF TEXT
AMENDMENTS THIS COULD HAVE ROLLED INTO AT THAT TIME.
BUT SOUNDS LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE A WORKSHOP.
AND ALSO --
04:05:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
Y'ALL HAD THIS ISSUE FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE SAT ON
CITY COUNCIL.
AND Y'ALL HAVE SAT ON YOUR BUTTS AND NOT DONE A DAMN THING
ABOUT IT.
SO, NO.
NO.
THIS -- IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON THIS.
AND -- AND ACTUALLY DID THE WORK.
WROTE IT.
IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT, PLEASE TALK TO MY OFFICE AND
WE WILL DO WHATEVER TEXT CHANGE IS LEGAL.
BUT IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT -- SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT TO
HAPPEN.
I AM EMPATHETIC WITH THE ISSUE, AND HERE IS THE LANGUAGE AND
LET'S MOVE ON IT.
WE HAVE A COMPLETE MISUNDERSTANDING.
WHAT IT DOES IS PUTS THIS COUNCIL IN A DIFFICULT POSITION
EVERY TIME THESE LAND USE ATTORNEYS COME BEFORE US WITH SOME
OF THESE CRAPPY PROJECTS WITH UNDERSIZED GARAGES AND WE HAVE
TO VOTE AGAINST THEM TIME AFTER TIME.
THEY WASTED THEIR MONEY.
THEY WASTED OUR TIME.
THEY HAVE WASTED THE CITY OF TAMPA'S TIME.
THIS IS AN ISSUE -- THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN GOING
-- Y'ALL HAD THIS FOR LONGEST TIME AND NOBODY, STEPHEN
BENSON WORKED ON IT, AND HE IS GONE.
04:06:20PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
IT ENDED WITH MR. BENSON UNFORTUNATELY.
04:06:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE PICKED UP THAT WORK
LOAD.
04:06:29PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I WOULD SAY I DON'T THINK A GARAGE BUT A
DRIVEWAY.
PEOPLE DON'T WORK IN THEIR GARAGE, THEY PARK ON THE
DRIVEWAY.
04:06:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU KNOW WHAT, ABBYE, RUN FOR OFFICE AND
YOU CAN DO THAT.
04:06:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SLEDGE LAY SIEVE --
04:06:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
IT WILL NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION AND GO THROUGH THE REGULAR CYCLES.
04:06:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MUNICIPAL CODE CHANGE.
04:06:52PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
STILL HAS TO GO TO THE PC JUST LIKE THE TEXT
AMENDMENTS.
WE CAN ROLL IT INTO THAT WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST BASED
ON LANGUAGE YOU ARE PROPOSING THAT WAY IT GOES TO PUBLIC
INFORMATION MEETING.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE SET THAT YET.
04:07:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
04:07:11PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
START OF CHAPTER 27.
JUST LIKE THE TEXT AMENDMENTS WE JUST BROUGHT YOU.
SO WE CAN PUT IT IN THERE, THEN IT WILL GO TO PUBLIC
INFORMATION.
IT WILL GO FOR THE BRIEFING AND THE HEARING AND
COME BACK TO YOU FOR ADOPTION.
04:07:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY.
04:07:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, MAY I MAKE A
SUGGESTION?
04:07:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, SIR.
04:07:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
INQUIRE OF MISS FEELEY WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO
COME BACK WITH WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IN THE MOTION, WHICH
IS TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE, SEE, REVIEW IT, AND IF THEY HAVE
COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES, SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU ARE
REQUESTING, HAVE IT COME BACK ON A DATE.
SEE HOW LONG SHE NEEDS AND FROM THERE YOU CAN DETERMINE WHAT
YOUR OPTIONS ARE WITH REGARD OF HOW YOU MOVE FORWARD.
IT WILL AT LEAST ADDRESS YOUR MOTION WITH THE LANGUAGE AND
YOU CAN DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FROM THERE.
SO IF MARCH 6 IS TOO SOON.
IF COUNCIL AGREES THAT MARCH 6 IS TOO SOON, HOW MUCH TIME --
04:08:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY IS MARCH 6 BE TOO SOON IF THE LANGUAGE
IS SPOON-FED.
04:08:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A WRITTEN OR ORAL REPORT.
04:08:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT I ENVISIONED THAT MISS FEELEY AND ANY
ATTORNEYS THAT HAD A VESTED INTEREST IN TALKING BEING THIS
WOULD TALK TO THE OFFICE -- MY OFFICE, TALK TO MYSELF OREGON
COUNCIL PERSONS OF THE CHANGES TO COME BACK ON MARCH 6 AND
START THE PROCESS AT THAT POINT.
SO WE MAKE THE MOTION ON MARCH 6 TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS OF
INSTITUTING THIS POLICY.
AND WHATEVER THAT PROCESS IS.
IF IT IS THE LEGAL OPINION THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH THE
PLANNING COMMISSION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, THEN SO
BE IT, BUT THAT WILL BE PROCESSES THAT WILL START ON MARCH 6
WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WOULD AGREE TO ON MARCH 6.
04:08:56PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I THINK I AM GIVING YOU A BETTER SOLUTION,
WHICH IS LET'S ROLL IT INTO THE TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT YOU
JUST LOOKED AT THAT WERE DONE CONCEPTUALLY THAT WE ALREADY
JUST PRESENTED, I THINK, A WEEK BEFORE LAST, GET IT INTO THE
CYCLE AND COME INTO THAT PACKAGE FOR YOU.
WE DIDN'T EVEN BRING YOU THE LANGUAGE ON THAT.
I THINK YOU REMEMBER WE BROUGHT YOU THE CONCEPT.
04:09:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY WASN'T THIS SUGGESTED WHEN WE SENT
THIS TO YOU?
04:09:24PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
IT WASN'T --
04:09:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHEN TIM SENT THIS TO YOU.
04:09:28PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES, THIS AFTERNOON.
04:09:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE COUNCIL SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT
INFORMATION.
04:09:33PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
BECAUSE IT WASN'T EXPLAINED TO ME THAT IT
SAID YOU MIGHT BE ASKING FOR IT TO COME BACK MARCH 6.
THAT DATE WASN'T SURE YET.
AND I DID NOT THINK THROUGH WHAT THE BEST PROCESS FOR
INCORPORATING THIS INTO THE CURRENT CYCLE WILL BE.
04:09:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CLENDENIN.
MAY YOU -- JUST TO REFRESH EVERYBODY'S RECOLLECTION WHAT THE
TIMELINE IS FOR THAT PROCESS.
ARE YOU SAYING, FEELEY, IT IS STILL AVAILABLE TO BE ADDED TO
THE CYCLE.
YOU WILL BE ABLE TO COMPLY TO COUNCIL'S REQUEST BY ADDING IT
TO THIS CYCLE.
04:10:05PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THIS CYCLE, YES, JUST BROUGHT -- POSTPONED
FROM THE HURRICANES FROM SEPTEMBER THAT WAS JUST BROUGHT
WEEK BEFORE LAST.
04:10:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE -- I GUESS THE ISSUE
IS, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THIS LANGUAGE AND MOVING
FORWARD?
04:10:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
04:10:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS THE WHOLE.
THEY TAKE IT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY GET FEEDBACK.
THEN THEY BRING IT BACK US TO FOR -- FOR THE INITIAL
FEEDBACK AND GO BACK AND FIX THE LANGUAGE.
THIS WAS ONLY -- THIS IS ONLY THE IDEA OF IT.
AND THEY WILL TAKE THE IDEA.
AND -- AND WORKSHOP IT.
AND BRING IT BACK TO US TWICE MORE BEFORE FINAL READING.
04:10:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW LONG IS THAT PROCESS?
04:10:48PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I DON'T HAVE THE SCHEDULED THAT WAS
PUT UP LAST WEEK, BUT I KNOW IT IS FORTHCOMING.
I CAN GET THAT TO YOU AND GET IT BACK TO YOU.
04:10:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN FIGURE OUT MY BLOOD PRESSURE ON
THIS ISSUE.
THIS ONE OF THE THINGS -- THIS PART OF FRUSTRATION OF THE
DAIS AND DEALING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON SO MANY
DIFFERENT ISSUES.
THINGS GET SLOW ROLLED THAT WE FEEL LIKE -- I KNOW WE GET
THIS FEELING THAT EVERYTHING GETS SLOW ROLLED.
AND I -- I LOVE TAMPA CITY STAFF.
LOVE EVERYBODY THAT WORKS HERE.
BUT IT IS JUST -- WHEN WE GET PLEASURE AND -- WE HAVE A LOT
OF PRESSURE TOO.
WE GET THIS STUFF.
OH, COME ON.
LET'S JUST GET IT DONE.
I MEAN, LET'S JUST GET IT DONE.
THAT IS SO MANY THINGS.
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN LIKE WE WERE TALKING OF THAT
TRAFFIC ISSUE ON FRANKLIN AND PLATT.
THE MORGAN STREET EXIT ALL OF THE EXPRESSWAY.
HOW MANY TIMES WE BROUGHT THIS UP TO COUNCIL AND NOTHING
EVER COMES OF IT.
AND THAT ENDS UP -- YOU GET A GUY LIKE ME THAT TRIES TO BE
LIKE THE MITIGATOR AND THE -- THE GO-BETWEEN AND THE GUY
THAT GIVES -- LIKE, OKAY, I AM DONE.
I AM SO FRUSTRATED AND SO -- I AM SO DONE.
04:12:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PUT IT FORWARD.
ADD IT TO THE CYCLE.
04:12:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S ADD IT TO THE CYCLE.
HI MAKE A MOTION TO ADD IT TO THE CYCLE AND CAN MISS FEELEY
TO MOVE IT THROUGH, AROUND LET'S GET IT DONE.
04:12:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
04:12:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY MORE DISCUSSION, COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON.
04:12:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO SAY REAL FAST.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, I OBVIOUSLY SHARED YOUR
FRUSTRATION TODAY AND MANY OTHER TIMES.
AND IT IS FRUSTRATING FOR THE CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THE
ADMINISTRATION WILL SLOW ROLL OR KILL THROUGH ADMIN AND GETS
DELAYED, DELAYED, DELAYED.
LIKE THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
THEY KEPT DELAYING AND THEY SAID THEY PRESENTED IT THE LAST
MINUTE.
ALWAYS LIKE THAT.
ABBYE CAN YOU COME BACK -- WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS MISS
FEELEY, I FOUND THAT -- YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T -- I DIDN'T VOTE
FOR MISS FEELEY WHEN SHE GOT THIS NEW POSITION, BUT I TOLD
HER, I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH HER WILLINGNESS TO HELP, SINCE
SHE -- THIS IS WHAT I WAS LEADING UP TO JUST NOW.
I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH HER WILLINGNESS TO HELP SINCE SHE
GOT ON BOARD IN THIS NEW POSITION.
AND I FIND HER -- I THINK WE HAVE TO SEPARATE -- AT LEAST
WITH THIS POSITION, WHATEVER HAPPENED IN THE PAST GOOD OR
BAD, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FEELEY DIFFERENTLY IN WHATEVER WAY
IN HER NEW POSITION.
I AM VERY IMPRESSED AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK SHE HAS
DONE IN THIS NEW POSITION.
I HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD IN GOOD FAITH, SHE WILL
WORK YOU WITH TO MOVE IN FORWARD.
BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN SO FAR.
VOTED AGAINST HER.
AND HELPING ME WITH PROJECTS THAT SHE HAS NO REASON TO HELP
ME BUT BEING A GOOD PUBLIC SERVANT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
04:13:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:13:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE MORE PLUG IN.
FEBRUARY 11, WE GOT AN E-MAIL THAT HAS THE MONTHLY REPORTS.
IN THIS CASE, IT IS KIND OF A QUARTERLY REPORT FROM OCTOBER
1 TO DECEMBER 31.
THEY ARE USUALLY LIKE A MONTH BEHIND.
BUT I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU GO THROUGH THIS BEFORE NEXT
WEEK'S MEETING JUST TO TAKE A LOOK.
04:14:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT DATE?
04:14:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE MEMO IS DATED FEBRUARY 11.
SOME TIME NEAR THAT.
AND I WOULD JUST HIGHLY RECOMMEND GOING OVER IT.
TAKING A LOOK AT HOW WE ARE DOING, WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH --
BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF BIG THINGS COMING UP.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY.
SO THAT -- THAT IS JUST MY PLUG AGAIN.
04:14:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:14:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:14:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
04:14:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I AM SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, I
APOLOGIZE.
04:14:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS WAS THE SHORT PART.
04:14:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HOPEFULLY WILL BE FAST.
HARBOUR ISLAND HAD THEIR EXPERT HERE THIS MORNING AND THEY
SPOKE, AND THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ASK THE STAFF TO
CONDUCT NOR STUDY -- OR A MORE THOROUGH STUDY OF THE
SIGNALING NEEDS.
AND I WILL MAKE THIS MOTION.
AND MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO RETURN ON NAY 1 WITH OPTIONS
OF HIRING A CONSULTANT FOR THE SIGNALING NEEDS OF FRANKLIN
STREET FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER OF HARBOUR ISLAND.
04:15:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SECOND IT, IF I CAN ADD AN AMOUNT.
TO -- TO CONSIDER THAT -- FOR STAFF -- FOR WHATEVER
CONSULTANT TO CONSIDER WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE TO CLOSE SOME
CONVENTION CENTER TRAFFIC, LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN
AND DROP PEOPLE -- JUST TO KIND OF CLOSE THAT AREA OFF FOR
THE PUBLIC.
04:15:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO WE KNOW IF THIS STUDY HAS BEEN DONE?
04:15:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY DID A LOT A WHILE AGO.
04:15:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ENGINEER FROM HARBOUR ISLAND LOOKED AT IT
AND SAID ITS NO AT COMPLETE STUDY.
NEW EXCUSE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, IT IS SEALED AND SIGNED.
THE SAME THING THEY DID WITH THIS TRAFFIC PLAN WITH ALL THE
CONGESTION DOWNTOWN.
SEALED AND SIGNED BY THE ENGINEERS THEY CAN'T TOUCH IT AND
SENT ANDREA THE OTHER DAY TO SAY WE WOULD BE PERSONALLY
LIABLE.
WE KNOW FROM MANY CONSULTANTS THAT WE DON'T NEED THIS LIGHT.
ANYWAY, DID YOU SECOND OR NOT.
04:16:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
04:16:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL THIRD IT.
04:16:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT -- WHEN YOU ARE
LOOKING AT IT THE, TO LOOK AT FLOW IN AND OUT OF THE
CONVENTION CENTER.
04:16:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND LOOK AT CONVENTION CENTER FLOW.
04:16:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, WHICH THE IDEA IS NO PUBLIC ACCESSES TO
THAT, AND IT BEING ONLY FOLKS BE WHO HAVE TO GO IN THERE.
04:16:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LOOK AT CONVENTION CENTER TRAFFIC FLOW TO
LOOK AT OPTIONS.
04:16:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR DIVERTING THAT PROCESS.
04:16:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AN OUTDOOR AGENCY THAT TO DO THIS.
04:16:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OUTSIDE INCIDENT.
04:16:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THEY ALREADY HIRED AN OUTSIDE ENTITY.
BUT THEY DID A SUPERFICIAL LOOK OF IT.
THIS WILL BE TO DO A THOROUGH AND UPDATED RED VIEW BECAUSE
THE LAST ONE WAS DONE THREE YEARS AGO.
04:17:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR MAY 1.
04:17:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
COME BACK AND TALK TO US OF HIRING A CONSUL
TANT.
THEY ARE NOT ASKING THEM TO DO IT.
04:17:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY NOT COME BACK SOONER.
04:17:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BECAUSE YOU WILL TELL ME THAT THE AGENDA IS
FULL.
A DATE TO COME BACK SOONER, I WOULD.
04:17:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF ALL WE ARE DOING IS TALKING ABOUT IT.
WE NEED IT GOING.
04:17:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
APRIL 17.
04:17:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT DATE WE JUST CLOSED.
HOW ABOUT APRIL 6?
I AM SORRY, THE 3rd.
04:17:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MEETING ON MY BIRTHDAY.
04:17:47PM >>CLERK:
WE SCHEDULED, LIKE, THREE TODAY.
04:17:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOBODY SCHEDULED MAY 1.
04:17:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAY 1.
04:17:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:17:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THIS ISSUE IS NOW COMING INSIDE BLACK
ENGLISH BOOK STORE, AND THAT IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME.
CUSTOMERS WANT TO TALK OF -- OUR CUSTOMERS WANT TO TALK
ABOUT IT.
04:18:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE YOU GO.
04:18:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AS LONG AS IT IS GETTING BUSINESS.
04:18:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I AM A BOOK SELLER.
04:18:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SELL TRAFFIC.
04:18:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO.
04:18:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CARLSON, A QUESTION FOR YOU IN TERMS OF
THE TIMELINE THAT TRANSPORTATION HAS FOR THIS TRAFFIC LIGHT.
I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE TOO LATE IF THERE IS GOING TO BE
ANY ACTION ON THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
04:18:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT DATE DID WE PUT IT ON.
04:18:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAY 1.
04:18:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DOES IT INCLUDE A REQUEST --
04:18:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY NOT DO A WRITTEN REPORT.
THAT WAY WE COULD DO IT -- WE CAN GET IT BY APRIL 6, IF DID
A WRITTEN REPORT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT DURING -- DURING OLD BUSINESS.
04:18:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY CREATE A WRITTEN REPORT AND RETURN
--
04:18:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A WRITTEN REPORT ON -- YOU SAID APRIL --
04:19:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAY 4.
04:19:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN DO IT APRIL 3.
SAVINGS A MONTH.
04:19:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
APRIL 3 TO CREATE A WRITTEN REPORT.
04:19:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU REF MOVED CHARLIE'S PREVIOUS MOTION.
04:19:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST AMEND.
04:19:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION TO AMEND.
04:19:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
04:19:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
APRIL 3.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
04:19:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LAST THING.
I AM GOING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD ON THIS.
04:19:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON THIS?
[LAUGHTER]
04:19:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ON THE NEXT ONE.
04:19:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HOW ABOUT AN ALBUM --
04:19:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS IT CALLED WHEN FIVE OR SIX --
04:19:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
TWO LPs.
04:19:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
GIVE ME 30 SECONDS.
SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF.
SINCE THE VOTE AND IT WAS 5-2.
I HAVE GONE ON THE DISSENTING SIDE, AND I CAN'T REOPEN IT.
ONE OF YOU ON THE FIVE CAN.
SINCE THEN, I PULLED THE TRANSCRIPT.
THE TRANSCRIPT SAY THAT THEA IS CONTRIBUTING $11 MILLION
IN PUBLIC RECORDS, PARKLAND STATES ASSOCIATION HAS
CONFIRMED THAT THE THEA BOARD HAS NOT EVEN BROUGHT THIS UP
YET.
IT IS NOT CONFIRMED AND WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS -- THAT
THEY WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING.
WE FOUND OUT THE LAST FEW DAYS THROUGH MEETINGS WITH STAFF
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT -- THAT WE WERE -- THAT COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN WAS PROMISE BY STAFF THIS WILL BE OPEN TO
-- COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN ASKED A QUESTION.
IS THIS IS OPEN TO ALL POSSIBLE ROUTES.
THE ANSWER WAS YES.
AND NOW IN WRITE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING TOLD THAT THERE
ARE ONLY THREE ROUTES.
BUSINESSES DID THEIR OWN STUDY THAT THEY PAID FOR AND FOUND
FIVE POSSIBLE ROUTES TO THE STAFF.
THE FIRST ROUTE, THE STAFF REJECTED BECAUSE IT HAD ALREADY
BEEN DONE AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO A MORE THOROUGH 'MALL
IN SIS.
FOUR OTHERS BECAUSE THEY WERE NEW AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO
THE ANALYSIS.
THEY ARE BOUND AND DETERMINED TO BUILD SOMETHING DOWN HOWARD
AVENUE THAT WE KNOW WILL NOT WORK.
YOU ALL VOTED UNDER THE PREMISE OF THESE AND MANY OTHER
THINGS WERE NOT TRUE.
ALSO IN THE TESTIMONY, WHEN -- WHEN I ASKED, WILL THE
NEIGHBORHOOD BE PROTECTED OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WHILE
THIS IS BEING BUILT.
THE ANSWER WAS NO.
THEN WILL IT BE PROTECTED IN A MAJOR STORM, LIKE MILTON
AFTER FOUR YEARS, AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.
IF IT IS NOT GOING TO THEM IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, PEOPLE
RENOVATING THEIR HOMES, IT WILL NOT HELP AFTER FOUR YEARS IN
A HURRICANE.
WHY WOULD WE HAVE APPROVE THIS?
WHY WOULD WE NOT IT?
PUBLIC RECORD PULLED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONFIRMS THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION STIRRED UP TROUBLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAD CONFLICT BECAUSE THEY STIRRED UP
TROUBLE.
AMONG OTHER THINGS COACHING THE LEADER OF THIS GROUP OF HOW
TO TALK TO THE MEDIA TO ARGUE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
04:22:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS.
04:22:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN PUBLIC RECORD.
TALKED TO THE PARKLAND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
PLUS INTEREST WHICH IS $130 MILLION.
WE CAN USE A PORTION OF THAT MONEY TO DO ALL THE SHORT-TERM
MAINTENANCE IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND PARKLAND HE IS STATES
AND PREVENT FLOODING ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AND USE THE REST OF
IT TO PREVENT FLOODING IN OTHER PARTS OF TAMPA.
I HOPE ONE OF YOU WILL REOPEN THAT TO RECONSIDER IT AND
CANCEL THAT.
04:22:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HURTAK AND CLENDENIN.
04:22:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM JUST -- I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY
FOR US TO GET THIS INFORMATION SO WE CAN READ IT FOR
OURSELVES AND THEN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT UNDER OLD
BUSINESS AT ANOTHER TIME.
BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT.
IF THERE IS A WAY THAT -- I DON'T KNOW, MR. SHELBY.
WHAT WOULD BE LEGAL WAY FOR -- FOR THEM TO DO IT.
WOULD IT BE THE PUBLIC PUTTING TOGETHER THE -- SO MAYBE
PARKLAND ESTATES PEOPLE OR THE HOWARD AVENUE BUSINESS
PEOPLE, PUTTING TOGETHER A MEMO THAT THEY CAN SEND TO ALL
SEVEN OF US TO READ ABOUT IT.
THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.
04:23:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH THE -- WITH THE PUBLIC RECORDS --
04:23:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WITH ALL THE INFORMATION.
04:23:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THE DOCUMENTATIONS THAT SUPPORT THE
ASSERTIONS THAT ARE MADE.
04:23:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO READ THAT IN A COHESIVE
DOCUMENT.
04:23:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SO WOULD I.
04:23:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY AND THEN TALK ABOUT
IT DURING OLD BUSINESS.
THAT IS WHERE I WOULD BRING PERSONALLY, RIGHT?
04:23:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THEY PAY THEIR OWN CONSULTANTS.
THESE COMMUNITIES -- ANYWAY, NEVER MIND.
04:23:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CARLSON, WAS THERE IS A CHARGE.
04:23:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY CHARGED -- THE CITY CHARGED
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
04:23:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE -- MY SUGGESTION
WOULD BE THEN TO -- TO MAKE THAT REQUEST OF -- MR. CARLSON.
THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT.
THAT'S CORRECT?
04:24:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WANTS TO MAKE THE
REQUEST AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
THAT IS FINE WITH ME.
04:24:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM NOT GOING TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
04:24:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOR THE INFORMATION.
04:24:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COLLATE AND SHARE
THAT INFORMATION TO ALL SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, SOMETHING I
WOULD LOVE TO BRING BACK DURING OLD BUSINESS FOR DISCUSS IF
WE WANT TO REOPEN.
04:24:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION, I ASK FOR THE
PARKLAND ESTATE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND BUSINESS ON HOWARD
AVENUE TO SUBMIT A WRITTEN REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL WITH
BACK-UP.
04:24:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MAKE MOTIONS FOR COMMUNITIES.
04:24:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN REQUEST WITH BACK-UP DOCUMENTS TO
SHOW HOW -- WHY WE SHOULD REVISIT THIS AND CANCEL THE
CONTRACT.
04:24:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I -- YOU AGREE WITH THE REQUEST.
04:25:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
04:25:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM GOING TO READ THE ENCYCLOPEDIA NOW.
I DO WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID.
BECAUSE I CONCUR.
DURING THAT ENTIRE DISCUSSION, I WAS VERY SPECIFIC IN
VERIFYING AND THE CONSULTANT GROUP WAS GOING TO EXPLORE
MULTIPLE ACTION OPTIONS.
100% ON THE RECORD TO EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS.
IF YOU ARE LISTENING, THE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING THIS.
YOU HOPE YOU HAVE NOT ARBITRARILY RULED OUT.
WHY YOU WOULD DO THAT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
04:25:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THREE OPTIONS DOWN HOWARD AVENUE.
BRISTOL, MORRISON AND SWANN.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY THREE OPTIONS.
04:25:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HOPE THEY HAVE AN ANSWER TO EXPLORE THE
OTHER OPTIONS AND WHY THEY RULED IT OUT.
04:25:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT IS
WATCHING INCLUDE AN E-MAIL TO STAFF.
04:26:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ALL PERTINENT
PUBLIC RECORDS THAT WERE OBTAINED IN SUPPORT OF WHATEVER
ASSERTIONS THEY MAKE.
SO -- AND TO BE INCLUDED.
WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, COUNCILWOMAN, SOUNDS LIKE --
SOUNDS LIKE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY -- I THINK THE BEST
EVIDENCE.
04:26:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT, THE BEST EVIDENCE.
I CAN SAY IF ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE CAN PUT TOGETHER A NICE
BINDER, IT WOULD BE THEM.
SO I AM --
04:26:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU LIKE YOUR BINDERS.
04:26:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OR E-MAIL.
I WOULD LIKE THE INFORMATION TO FLESH IT OUT AND TALK ABOUT
IT.
04:26:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID WELL-EDUCATED PEOPLE IN PARKLAND
ESTATES AND THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THIS.
04:26:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SAW BEAUTIFUL POWERPOINTS.
NO DOUBT.
WE KEEP HEARING THIS, LET'S SEE THE DATA AND SEE THE REPORTS
AND THE PUBLIC RECORD.
04:26:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:27:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I AM HAPPY TO GET THE INFORMATION IF THEY WANT
TO SEND IT TO ME.
04:27:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
MOTION TO EXTEND FOR 30 MINUTES.
04:27:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A FULL DAY.
WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON YOUR RADAR THAT ESPECIALLY NOW THAT
YOU ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING AND MOVING INTO BUDGET
SEASON.
SECTION -- SECTION 10.10 OF THE CITY CHARTER IS ENTITLED
"CHARTER REVIEW."
COMMENCING IN 2025 AND EVERY EIGHT YEARS THEREAFTER
ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE A CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AND GOES ON FROM THERE
SO WE ARE ABOUT AT THAT TIME AGAIN.
AND WHAT TIME GOING TO SUGGEST IS -- I DON'T BELIEVE ANY
MONEY HAS BEEN PLACED IN OUT IN FY '25 BUDGET ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PER YOUR CHARTER YOU ARE GOING TO
HAVE TO CONSIDER FOR FY '26.
AND YOU CAN GET UNDER WAY IN CALENDAR YEAR STARTING THE
PROCESS IN 2025.
04:27:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK.
04:28:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:28:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO MOVED.
04:28:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:

04:28:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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