TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:04:16AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:04:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:04:18AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.
9:04:22AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR TODAY'S
9:04:25AM INVOCATION.
9:04:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:04:27AM TODAY, WE HAVE CHAPLAIN TIM SPRINGER WHO IS FROM MARION,
9:04:31AM ILLINOIS.
9:04:32AM HE GRADUATED WITH A BACHELOR OF ARTS IN BIBLE -- WITH
9:04:36AM BIBLICAL LANGUAGES FROM SOUTHWEST BAPTIST UNIVERSITY IN
9:04:41AM MISSOURI.
9:04:42AM HE WENT ON TO RECEIVE HIS MASTERS OF DIVINITY FROM
9:04:47AM SOUTHWESTERN BAPTIST THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IN FORT WORTH,
9:04:50AM TEXAS.
9:04:50AM HE IS CURRENTLY TAKING SEMINARS TOWARD A DOCTORATE IN
9:04:53AM MINISTRY FROM GATEWAY SEMINARY, ONTARIO, CALIFORNIA.
9:04:57AM HE HAS BEEN MARRIED TO HIS WIFE KATHY FOR 26 YEARS.
9:05:01AM THEY ARE THANKFUL TO HAVE FOUR CHILDREN, THREE SONS AND ONE
9:05:04AM DAUGHTER.
9:05:04AM HE WOULDN'T LET ME READ THE REST OF THIS VERY LONG BIO, BUT
9:05:07AM HE IS WITH SOCOM AT MacDILL.
9:05:12AM WE THANK YOU FOR HIS SERVICE, ESPECIALLY TO ALL THE OTHER
9:05:15AM SERVICE PEOPLE WHO ARE HELPING OUR COUNTRY EVERY DAY.
9:05:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND
9:05:19AM REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
9:05:21AM YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
9:05:22AM >> LET US PRAY.
9:05:23AM MAJESTIC LORD, I HUMBLY INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE THIS DAY IN
9:05:28AM PREPARATION FOR TAMPA'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
9:05:30AM I THANK YOU FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO
9:05:34AM DUTIFULLY CARRY OUT THEIR GOD-GIVEN TASK TO SERVE AND TO
9:05:37AM MINISTER TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN WHICH SPANS BAY TO
9:05:40AM BAY.
9:05:41AM AS A SAILOR IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY, I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR
9:05:44AM THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO WELCOME AND RECEIVE US, THE U.S.
9:05:48AM MILITARY, FROM OUR VARIOUS HOMES OF RECORD.
9:05:50AM THESE DEVOTED LABORERS SHELTER US FROM HURRICANES.
9:05:53AM THEY EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN, AND THEY MAINTAIN THE VAST ARRAY
9:05:56AM OF HIGHWAYS, SIDE STREETS, AND BYWAYS BY WHICH WE TRAVERSE
9:06:01AM ON A DAILY BASIS.
9:06:03AM TO THEM, WE RARELY OFFER ENOUGH THANKS.
9:06:05AM I TURN NOW TO THE HOLY SCRIPTURES THAT REMIND EACH OF US
9:06:08AM THAT WE ARE TO BE A CITY SET ON A HILL WHICH CANNOT BE
9:06:12AM HIDDEN.
9:06:13AM MAY WE SET THIS LIGHT UPON A LAMP STAND TO PROVIDE LIGHT TO
9:06:16AM ALL WHO ARE IN THIS HOUSE.
9:06:18AM AND MAY WE LET OUR LIGHT SHINE BEFORE MEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT
9:06:21AM THEY MAY SEE OUR GOOD WORKS AND GLORIFY THE FATHER WHO IS IN
9:06:24AM HEAVEN.
9:06:25AM MAY YOU EVER FAITHFULLY STRENGTHEN AND SUSTAIN THESE
9:06:29AM CITIZENS' SERVANTS AS THEY LABOR FOR THE TOWNSPEOPLE OF
9:06:32AM TAMPA.
9:06:33AM IT IS IN YOUR MOST HOLY NAME I PRAY, AMEN.
9:06:39AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:06:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:06:51AM CAN I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:06:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:06:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:07:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:07:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:07:02AM >> VIERA?
9:07:03AM MIRANDA?
9:07:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:07:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:07:05AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:07:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:07:07AM WE HAVE A LOT OF BIRTHDAYS TODAY.
9:07:09AM SO THIS IS NOT THE USUAL COURSE.
9:07:12AM I WANT TO WISH A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO CHARLENE FROM THE CLERK'S
9:07:15AM OFFICE.
9:07:15AM THAT WAS MONDAY.
9:07:16AM MARTIN SHELBY, OUR ATTORNEY, YESTERDAY.
9:07:19AM RON WIGGINTON, HIS BIRTHDAY IS TODAY.
9:07:24AM AND SULING'S HUSBAND MIKE'S BIRTHDAY.
9:07:28AM A LOT OF BIRTHDAYS TODAY.
9:07:31AM MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE RULES
9:07:34AM AND PROCEDURES OF PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:07:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:07:38AM GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
9:07:40AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:07:42AM I WOULD LIKE TO VERY BRIEFLY REVIEW THE RULES OF DECORUM AND
9:07:45AM THE PROCESS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
9:07:47AM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE
9:07:51AM CEREMONIAL TODAY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD WHICH ARE
9:07:54AM AVAILABLE OUTSIDE AND PLACE IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE DOOR
9:07:57AM IN THE LOBBY.
9:07:57AM ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
9:08:00AM CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
9:08:03AM COMMENT AND EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED
9:08:06AM BY NAME BY THE CHAIR TO APPROACH AND SPEAK.
9:08:08AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
9:08:10AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL
9:08:13AM NOT BE CALLED.
9:08:14AM NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA
9:08:17AM THAT IS SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS NOTED AS A PUBLIC
9:08:20AM HEARING ON THE AGENDA, USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET INSTEAD AT THE
9:08:24AM PODIUM OUTSIDE, AND IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE THE
9:08:27AM CITY STAFF.
9:08:28AM A REMINDER THAT SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE TO
9:08:33AM REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR
9:08:36AM THREATENING REMARKS OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS
9:08:39AM OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:08:41AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
9:08:44AM PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR
9:08:48AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
9:08:48AM PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE.
9:08:52AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:08:55AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
9:08:58AM COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:09:01AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
9:09:04AM RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE CHAIR AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE
9:09:07AM CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF
9:09:09AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:09:10AM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
9:09:14AM SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:09:16AM THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT
9:09:19AM TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
9:09:22AM COMMENT.
9:09:22AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION TO THE
9:09:27AM CITY COUNCIL.
9:09:27AM THANK YOU.
9:09:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:09:29AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR
9:09:32AM SESSION OF FEBRUARY 6, 2025, AND THE EVENING SESSION OF
9:09:35AM FEBRUARY 13, 2025.
9:09:37AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:09:38AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:09:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:40AM AYE.
9:09:42AM LET'S GO THROUGH APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
9:09:46AM ITEM NUMBER 3, THERE IS A MEMO TO RESCHEDULE THIS TO APRIL
9:09:50AM 17 UNDER CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND PRESENTATIONS.
9:09:53AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
9:09:53AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:09:55AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:09:56AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:57AM AYE.
9:10:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, COULD I SAY SOMETHING QUICK ABOUT
9:10:02AM NUMBER 4?
9:10:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, LET ME DO THAT AND I'LL GO TO YOU
9:10:06AM REAL QUICK.
9:10:07AM LET ME FINISH.
9:10:09AM ITEM NUMBER 15, THERE IS A MEMO TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE
9:10:13AM AGENDA.
9:10:13AM IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK AT A FUTURE DATE.
9:10:17AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:10:18AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:10:19AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:20AM AYE.
9:10:20AM ITEM NUMBER 50, A MEMO WAS RECEIVED REGARDING A CONTINUANCE
9:10:28AM TO MARCH 6, 2025.
9:10:31AM THAT'S JUST TO SCHEDULE THE HEARING.
9:10:33AM THE MEMO SAID THAT THEY NEEDED MORE TIME BECAUSE THIS IS
9:10:37AM FROM THE ADMINISTRATION OR THE STAFF --
9:10:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE TO RESCHEDULE THE HEARING FOR APRIL
9:10:44AM 3 --
9:10:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO, NOT RESCHEDULE THE HEARING.
9:10:47AM BUT TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO MARCH 6, AND THEN WE'LL SCHEDULE
9:10:50AM IT.
9:10:50AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH A MOTION.
9:10:52AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:55AM AYE.
9:10:56AM ITEM NUMBER 72, THERE IS A MEMO TO CONTINUE 72 TO JUNE
9:11:01AM 5th.
9:11:02AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM
9:11:05AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:11:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:06AM AYE.
9:11:07AM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON TO REMOVE ITEM
9:11:13AM 73.
9:11:14AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:11:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MADE A MOTION, THIS IS IN REGARD TO THE
9:11:17AM YELLOW BRICK ROAD AREA.
9:11:18AM I MADE A MOTION TO HAVE ON THE AGENDA TO PROHIBIT PARKING
9:11:22AM METERS IN THAT AREA.
9:11:24AM SINCE THEN, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK WORKED WITH STAFF TO COME
9:11:27AM UP WITH A RESIDENTIAL EXCEPTION, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 71.
9:11:31AM SO 71 SUPERSEDES 73.
9:11:33AM SO I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE -- [INAUDIBLE]
9:11:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:11:37AM CARLSON.
9:11:38AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:11:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:41AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:11:43AM THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE PER CHIEF BENNETT.
9:11:47AM I WILL GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS ONE BY ONE.
9:11:50AM ITEM NUMBER 61, DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR 61?
9:11:55AM ANYBODY?
9:11:57AM NO FOR 61.
9:12:00AM ITEM 62, DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT?
9:12:03AM THERE WAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS TRANSMITTED.
9:12:06AM DO WE NEED STAFF?
9:12:08AM >> NO.
9:12:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:12:10AM 63, WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE.
9:12:14AM THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
9:12:16AM DO WE NEED STAFF HERE PRESENT FOR 63?
9:12:20AM >> I'M GOOD WITH IT.
9:12:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:12:22AM ITEM 64.
9:12:23AM DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT?
9:12:28AM OKAY.
9:12:29AM ITEM 65.
9:12:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:12:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES ON 65.
9:12:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE EVEN
9:12:38AM GOING TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR IT AT
9:12:41AM THE CRA, AND THEY PULLED IT.
9:12:43AM I'M UNCOMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT PERSONALLY UNTIL CRA DOES.
9:12:48AM SO I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT.
9:12:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 65 IS A YES FOR SOMEONE PRESENT.
9:12:52AM WE HAVE AN IN-PERSON REPORT FOR 66 FROM JEAN DUNCAN, SO THAT
9:12:58AM IS A YES.
9:12:59AM 67, THERE IS A PowerPoint.
9:13:00AM SO THAT IS A YES.
9:13:01AM 68 THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:13:05AM DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR THAT?
9:13:07AM THIS WAS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:13:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE TO MAKE ONE PHONE CALL.
9:13:12AM THIS WILL BE AFTER LUNCH.
9:13:13AM I DON'T ANTICIPATE SO, BUT I WANT TO --
9:13:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL HOLD 68 UNTIL AFTER LUNCH.
9:13:18AM ITEM 69, THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:13:21AM DO WE NEED ANYBODY PRESENT?
9:13:22AM WE HAVE A YES ON 69.
9:13:24AM ITEM NUMBER 70, THERE WILL BE A VERBAL UPDATE, SO THAT'S A
9:13:29AM YES.
9:13:30AM ITEM 71, YES.
9:13:32AM 72 AND 73 WERE TAKEN CARE OF.
9:13:36AM ITEM 74, THERE WAS A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA TO
9:13:39AM REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA AND INCLUDE IT IN THE FY '26
9:13:43AM BUDGET, IS THAT CORRECT?
9:13:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET OFFICE SUGGEST AND
9:13:46AM I AGREE WITH THAT.
9:13:47AM ALL COMPREHENSIVE ALL AT ONCE.
9:13:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE 74 FROM
9:13:52AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:13:52AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:13:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:54AM AYE.
9:13:55AM WE HAVE WRITTEN REPORTS -- SORRY, ITEM 76 -- WAIT, 75 WE'LL
9:14:02AM RECEIVE AND FILE IT, BUT CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
9:14:04AM FILE?
9:14:05AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:14:06AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:14:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:09AM AYE.
9:14:09AM ITEM 76 A REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 17.
9:14:12AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:14:14AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:16AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:14:17AM ITEM 77, THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE SAID ITEM TO MAY 15,
9:14:22AM 2025.
9:14:22AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:24AM SECOND FROM?
9:14:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CAN YOU GIVE
9:14:30AM ME SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS?
9:14:31AM I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED ON THIS ONE.
9:14:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IT IS, I THINK THERE IS AN ORDINANCE
9:14:36AM IN PLACE THAT PROHIBITS THINGS BEING PARKED IN FRONT OF YOUR
9:14:39AM HOUSE, LIKE A BIG WORK TRUCK.
9:14:42AM IN SOME CASES COMPLAINTS RECEIVED IN MY OFFICE THAT THEY ARE
9:14:49AM PARKING, NOT ONLY THE HOUSE AirBnB, BUT THEN THEY ARE
9:14:52AM COMING IN A MOTOR HOME AND PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
9:14:55AM THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO ITEMS.
9:14:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
9:14:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
9:14:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO
9:15:01AM CONTINUE -- WAIT.
9:15:02AM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:15:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:07AM AYE.
9:15:08AM THAT'S TO CONTINUE THE ITEM.
9:15:09AM MR. SHELBY.
9:15:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, TO REQUEST THAT
9:15:12AM AFTER THE END OF THE CONSENT DOCKET, WITHOUT STAFF NEEDING
9:15:16AM TO BE PRESENT YOU CAN MOVE 61, 62, SUBSTITUTE FOR 63 AND 64
9:15:20AM AT THAT TIME.
9:15:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUNDS GOOD.
9:15:21AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER --
9:15:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I WANTED TO PULL A FULL ITEMS.
9:15:26AM I'M SORRY.
9:15:27AM I HAVE NOT BEEN WELL THIS WEEK, SO I AM A LITTLE BEHIND.
9:15:30AM I WANT TO PULL 18 AND 19 FOR A CONVERSATION AND SEPARATE
9:15:33AM VOTE.
9:15:33AM I WANT TO PULL 36 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE AND 49 FOR A
9:15:39AM CONVERSATION AND A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:15:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 36 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:15:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND 49.
9:15:46AM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY NEED STAFF.
9:15:48AM BUT I BELIEVE WE AS A COUNCIL REALLY NEED TO START TALKING
9:15:51AM ABOUT SOME OF THIS MONEY.
9:15:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO PULL 49.
9:15:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:15:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ON THOSE ITEMS,
9:16:02AM WHICH DO YOU HAVE STAFF PRESENT --
9:16:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A
9:16:06AM CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
9:16:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PULL IT FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:16:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
9:16:10AM 18 AND 19 BECAUSE THEY GO TOGETHER.
9:16:13AM 36 AND 49.
9:16:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:16:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:16:18AM AYE THOSE ARE PULLED FOR OUR OWN DISCUSSION, NO STAFF
9:16:21AM PRESENT.
9:16:21AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 4 AND
9:16:25AM THEN WE'LL ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
9:16:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: BEFORE ITEM 4, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK BROUGHT
9:16:32AM UP 65 ABOUT WHETHER IT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA OR NOT.
9:16:34AM SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT THAT?
9:16:36AM I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD IT TODAY, BUT INSTEAD OF MAKING
9:16:39AM PEOPLE WAIT ALL DAY, ARE WE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER TO
9:16:42AM KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA?
9:16:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO HAVE STAFF
9:16:49AM PRESENT FOR THAT.
9:16:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT WOULD NEED MORRIS.
9:16:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE GET A RESPONSE.
9:16:56AM ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:16:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: ITEM NUMBER 4, MISINFORMATION SENT AROUND
9:16:59AM AND INFORMATION SAYING TO PEOPLE PLEASE SHOW UP AND SUPPORT
9:17:02AM THE JACKSON HOUSE TODAY.
9:17:04AM WHILE WE WELCOME SUPPORT ON THE JACKSON HOUSE, JUST FOR
9:17:08AM EVERYBODY WATCHING, THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION ORDERED THE
9:17:12AM JACKSON HOUSE DESTROYED IN 2013.
9:17:15AM CITY COUNCIL WAY BEFORE I GOT ON SAVED THE JACKSON HOUSE
9:17:19AM UNANIMOUSLY.
9:17:19AM THAT'S WHY IT EXISTS TODAY.
9:17:21AM THE FOUNDATION HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT THE LAST FEW YEARS TO
9:17:24AM TRY TO SAVE IT.
9:17:24AM AND THIS CITY COUNCIL AS THE CRA BOARD PUT IN A MILLION
9:17:28AM DOLLARS A FEW YEARS AGO, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING
9:17:31AM WE CAN TO SAVE IT.
9:17:31AM THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS TO HAVE THE JACKSON
9:17:35AM HOUSE FOUNDATION PRESENT THEIR PLAN FOR RENOVATION.
9:17:38AM SO IT'S NOT -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE
9:17:41AM JACKSON HOUSE TODAY.
9:17:42AM JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, I MET WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE
9:17:44AM SEVERAL TIMES THE LAST FEW DAYS.
9:17:46AM THE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS JUST FOR THEM TO PRESENT THEIR PLAN.
9:17:49AM AS SOON AS THE CITY SAYS GO, THEN THEIR PLAN WILL START,
9:17:54AM WHICH THEY'LL GO THROUGH IN A LITTLE WHILE.
9:17:56AM WE'RE ALL ON BOARD FOR SAVING THE JACKSON HOUSE.
9:17:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUNDS GOOD.
9:17:59AM AND THEY ARE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT.
9:18:01AM WE'LL HEAR FROM THEM SHORTLY.
9:18:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MADE A MOTION TO PULL IT.
9:18:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, HE JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON
9:18:06AM IT.
9:18:07AM THAT'S ALL.
9:18:07AM THEY ARE GOING TO PRESENT.
9:18:10AM NOTHING IS PULLED.
9:18:10AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM?
9:18:13AM MOTION FROM CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:18:16AM HENDERSON.
9:18:16AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:18:16AM AYE.
9:18:17AM FIRST ITEM IS COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR THE ATU EMPLOYEE
9:18:20AM OF THE MONTH.
9:18:21AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:18:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:18:45AM THIS IS LIKE ONE OF MY FAVORITE DAYS OF THE MONTH BECAUSE I
9:18:48AM GET TO STAND HERE WITH ONE OF MY FAVORITE CITY OF TAMPA
9:18:53AM PERSONS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ATU.
9:18:55AM HE REPRESENTS SO MANY OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES THAT KEEP THE
9:18:58AM CITY OF TAMPA WORKING.
9:19:00AM SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE LISTENING, IF THE SERVICES
9:19:04AM YOU'RE BEING PROVIDED, YOU'RE HAPPY, BLAME HIM.
9:19:08AM IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY, BLAME GUIDO.
9:19:12AM I WANT TO INTRODUCE THE PRESIDENT OF THE ATU, MR. SIMON.
9:19:17AM AND HE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE THE RECIPIENT OF THE ATU
9:19:22AM EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
9:19:23AM MR. SIMON.
9:19:24AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
9:19:25AM GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:19:28AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:19:29AM AND GOOD MORNING CITY OF TAMPA.
9:19:31AM I'M STEVE SIMON, PRESIDENT OF THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION
9:19:36AM LOCAL 1464 AND WE KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
9:19:39AM I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE
9:19:42AM ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MR. ALEXANDER WARREN.
9:19:47AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:47AM ALEX WARREN WAS NOMINATED FOR ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH
9:19:57AM RECOGNITION AND AWARD BECAUSE OF HIS LEADERSHIP AND
9:19:59AM DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE PARKS AND RECREATION
9:20:03AM DEPARTMENT, AND THE COMMUNITY.
9:20:05AM ALEX HAS BEEN A MAINSTAY OVER THE YEARS TO THE TEAMS LEADING
9:20:11AM CHANGE AT THE GWENDOLYN MILLER COMMUNITY CENTER AND EXPANDED
9:20:14AM HIS REACH TO 129 COLLEAGUES WITH PROGRAM PLANNING AND
9:20:18AM ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE NORTH SERVICE AREA.
9:20:20AM HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF OUT-OF-SCHOOL TIME PLANNING, AND THE
9:20:25AM STAY AND PLAY COMMITTEE.
9:20:26AM ALEX STARTED SHARING HIS LOVE FOR CHESS MORE THAN A DECADE
9:20:30AM AGO AND REMAINS STEADFAST IN HIS VISION TO BRING THIS GAME
9:20:34AM OF STRATEGY TO THE KIDS AT CENTERS AND PLAYGROUNDS.
9:20:37AM THE PLAN STARTED OUT SMALL WITH ABOUT THREE KIDS IN THE
9:20:41AM AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM AT GWENDOLYN MILLER.
9:20:44AM AND HAS NOW EXPANDED TO MORE THAN A DOZEN CENTERS THROUGHOUT
9:20:48AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, REACHING MORE THAN 200 KIDS BETWEEN THE
9:20:52AM AGES OF 7 AND 17.
9:20:54AM THERE ARE QUITE A FEW STAFF MEMBERS WHO HAVE EMBRACED THE
9:20:58AM GAME AS WELL.
9:21:00AM BECAUSE OF THE POPULARITY OF THE PROGRAM, ALEX AND SOME OF
9:21:02AM HIS COLLEAGUES HAVE ORGANIZED TWO CHESS TOURNAMENTS PER YEAR
9:21:06AM FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS WITH AN EVER-GROWING AUDIENCE.
9:21:11AM ALEX IS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE ANTIVIOLENCE AND ANTI-BULLYING
9:21:14AM SANDY HOOK PROMISE AND SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING CLUB,
9:21:18AM NOT ONLY AT HIS PARK BUT AT OTHER PARKS AND SEVERAL
9:21:21AM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS.
9:21:22AM HE IS AN AMBASSADOR AND IS RECOGNIZED BY THE SANDY HOOK
9:21:26AM PROMISES ORGANIZATION FOR HIS INVOLVEMENT IN PREPARING KIDS
9:21:29AM FOR CHALLENGING SITUATIONS AT SCHOOL AND BEYOND.
9:21:33AM ON ONE OCCASION, ALEX FOUND HIMSELF IN MORE THAN 30
9:21:37AM AFTER-SCHOOL PARTICIPANTS IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
9:21:39AM BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSIVE PREPARATION HE HAD TAKEN THE KIDS
9:21:44AM THROUGH, EVERYONE REMAINED CALM AND CONFIDENT.
9:21:47AM ALEX TAKES HIS JOB VERY SERIOUS AND IT SHOWS.
9:21:50AM THIS PAST SUMMER, ALEX STEPPED UP AS THE NEXT PERSON IN
9:21:53AM CHARGE OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND PLAYGROUND, AND HE
9:21:56AM EXCELLED IN PLANNING AND LEADERSHIP.
9:21:58AM AS A WRITER, ALEX HAS SHARED HIS PASSION FOR POETRY BY
9:22:03AM CREATING WRITING CLASSES FOR THE KIDS AT THE CENTER AND HAS
9:22:07AM WRITTEN AND PERFORMED SOME OF HIS OWN WORKS AT EVENTS IN THE
9:22:10AM COMMUNITY.
9:22:10AM ALEX CONTINUES TO STRIVE FOR A GREATER LEVEL OF PROFESSIONAL
9:22:15AM DEVELOPMENT AND ATTENDS TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES AS OFTEN AS
9:22:18AM HE IS ABLE TO.
9:22:19AM BECAUSE OF HIS OVERALL INVOLVEMENT, ALEX RECEIVED AN AWARD
9:22:23AM FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR VOLUNTEER WORK THAT HE DOES DURING
9:22:27AM HIS OWN TIME AWAY FROM THE JOB.
9:22:29AM DUE TO ALL OF THIS, WE APPRECIATE YOU AND EVERYTHING THAT
9:22:33AM YOU DO TO HELP KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
9:22:36AM SO ON BEHALF OF ATU LOCAL 1464, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY
9:22:43AM CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING THE AWARD RECIPIENT AND PRESENT YOU
9:22:47AM WITH THIS AWARD.
9:22:47AM THANK YOU.
9:22:48AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE, I FEEL VERY INADEQUATE AFTER HEARING
9:23:00AM ALL OF THAT.
9:23:01AM IS CHESS LIKE CHECKERS?
9:23:03AM I'M REALLY GOOD AT CHECKERS.
9:23:05AM YOU ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, MUST BE A VERY POPULAR PERSON BECAUSE
9:23:09AM WE HAVE OCEA WYNN AND TONY MULKEY.
9:23:12AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
9:23:15AM >>OCEA WYNN: IT IS WITH PLEASURE THAT I STAND BEFORE YOU AND
9:23:18AM SAY THAT I AM JUST OVEREXCITED TO HAVE ALEX AS PART OF OUR
9:23:22AM TEAM.
9:23:23AM WHEN I FIRST WAS APPOINTED TO THIS POSITION, ALEX HAPPENED
9:23:27AM TO BE -- YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS.
9:23:28AM YOU WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE I MET -- TO LEARN ABOUT
9:23:31AM WHAT IT IS THAT WE DO IN OUR CENTERS.
9:23:33AM I WAS REALLY ENTHRALLED WITH THE FACT THAT ALEX DEDICATES SO
9:23:40AM MUCH TIME AND ATTENTION TO OUR KIDS AND BY EXPOSING THEM TO
9:23:45AM CHESS AND TO POETRY, THAT JUST BLOWS ME AWAY.
9:23:50AM UNFORTUNATELY, I ASKED HIM TO TEACH ME CHESS.
9:23:55AM THAT HASN'T GONE TOO FAR JUST YET BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON
9:23:58AM THAT.
9:24:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CAN HELP YOU WITH CHECKERS.
9:24:01AM >>OCEA WYNN: I HAVE CHECKERS COVERED.
9:24:03AM YOU CAN HELP ME WITH CHESS.
9:24:05AM I'M GOOD.
9:24:05AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:24:06AM THANK YOU FOR BEING AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR PARKS AND
9:24:09AM RECREATION FAMILY.
9:24:10AM THANK YOU FOR MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:24:12AM AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN OUR KIDS.
9:24:15AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:24:18AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:24:23AM I'M SO PLEASED TO BE HERE FOR THIS WELL-DESERVED
9:24:26AM RECOGNITION.
9:24:27AM ALEX IS AN EXAMPLE OF GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND AND BEING VERY
9:24:31AM PROACTIVE IN TRYING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE WITH THE KIDS IN OUR
9:24:35AM COMMUNITY.
9:24:35AM I'LL KEEP IT SHORT AND JUST SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
9:24:38AM WELL DESERVED.
9:24:41AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY AND TAMPA
9:24:48AM CITY COUNCIL, REPRESENTED BY CHAIRMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO AND
9:24:50AM THE OTHER SIX OF US, I PRESENT TO YOU ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE
9:24:55AM MONTH ALEX WARREN, A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:24:58AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:59AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS?
9:25:07AM WE CAN DO THIS FIRST.
9:25:10AM THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME
9:25:12AM THINGS.
9:25:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:25:21AM MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
9:25:26AM CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS AWARD.
9:25:27AM WELL DESERVED.
9:25:28AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY.
9:25:29AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP'S AND STEPP'S TOWING, PLEASE ENJOY
9:25:34AM DINNER OUT ON US.
9:25:35AM GIFT CARD.
9:25:37AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:25:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:25:46AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:25:47AM MY NAME IS LORI OSBORNE.
9:25:48AM I AM WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
9:25:50AM I HAVE TO TELL YOU, MY MOM WAS PART OF MY HOMETOWN'S PARKS
9:25:54AM AND REC DEPARTMENT, SO I GREW UP IN THESE TYPES OF
9:25:57AM COMMUNITIES, RECREATION DEPARTMENTS.
9:25:59AM I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU INSPIRE OUR
9:26:03AM KIDS.
9:26:03AM I REALLY DO.
9:26:04AM ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE
9:26:06AM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ATTEND ONE OF OUR PERFORMANCES, AND
9:26:10AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE.
9:26:11AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
9:26:14AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:26:19AM GOOD MORNING, MR. SIMON.
9:26:20AM MR. WARREN.
9:26:21AM I'M GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
9:26:24AM 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
9:26:26AM WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INVESTING SO MUCH TIME IN THE
9:26:28AM CHILDREN OF TAMPA.
9:26:29AM THANK YOU FOR TEACHING THEM AN INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE LIKE
9:26:32AM CHESS.
9:26:32AM WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:26:34AM PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF AT THE COLUMBIA, ULELE, ANYWHERE YOU
9:26:39AM WOULD LIKE TO ENJOY, HAVE A NIGHT OFF AND HAVE SOME SANGRIA.
9:26:45AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:26:45AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:26:50AM JILL WITECKI WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
9:26:52AM HI, MR. WARREN.
9:26:53AM I STARTED PLAYING CHESS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS WELL.
9:26:56AM I KNOW THE LIFE SKILLS THAT THAT GAME TEACHES.
9:26:59AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
9:27:02AM IS THAT YOUR WIFE TAKING PICTURES.
9:27:06AM ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, THIS IS AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR
9:27:11AM YOU AND YOUR WIFE TO COME JOIN US FOR ALL OF THE THOUSAND
9:27:15AM THINGS WE DO OVER THERE EVERY YEAR.
9:27:16AM WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.
9:27:18AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:27:19AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:27:24AM >> I'M LAURA TAYLOR FROM OXFORD COMMONS.
9:27:28AM I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ONE OF OUR
9:27:30AM RESTAURANTS.
9:27:31AM OXFORD EXCHANGE, PREDALINA.
9:27:35AM THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:27:43AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:27:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:27:50AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:27:53AM GOOD MORNING, ALEX.
9:27:56AM I'M BRIAN FORD.
9:27:57AM I'M WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
9:27:58AM ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
9:28:01AM WE HAVE A LITTLE TRADITION AT ONE BUC.
9:28:03AM ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
9:28:06AM I'LL GIVE YOU MY CARD BECAUSE I HAVE A LITTLE STORY ABOUT
9:28:08AM YOUR GAME BALL.
9:28:09AM IT'S NOT HERE.
9:28:11AM THIS IS A GENERIC ONE.
9:28:13AM BUT THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS YOU NEED TO EXCHANGE THIS WITH ME
9:28:17AM AND BRING YOUR FAMILY AND SUPPORT STAFF BECAUSE YOU DON'T DO
9:28:19AM IT ALONE.
9:28:20AM ONE BUC FOR A LITTLE TOUR AND THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR GAME
9:28:23AM BALL WITH YOUR NAME ON IT.
9:28:25AM SECONDARY, I LOVE YOUR STORY AND WHAT YOU DO FOR THE KIDS
9:28:28AM AND THE CHESS PROGRAM.
9:28:29AM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE WINNER AN INDIVIDUAL GAME BALL.
9:28:37AM LET'S HAVE THAT DIALOGUE.
9:28:38AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
9:28:44AM COMMUNITY, CAN'T HAVE A FUMBLE.
9:28:46AM YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK AND I'LL GIVE YOU YOUR GAME
9:28:49AM BALL.
9:28:50AM NO FUMBLES.
9:28:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEVE MICHELINI.
9:29:00AM I BROUGHT MY GRANDSON HERE TO HELP ME OUT.
9:29:04AM HE IS A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION
9:29:08AM DEPARTMENT, SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
9:29:11AM HE HAD SOME EXCITING THINGS HAPPEN OVER THERE.
9:29:15AM HE'S GOING TO HELP ME WITH THIS.
9:29:18AM MEAT MARKET GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR YOU.
9:29:20AM YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
9:29:26AM DON'T LOSE THESE LETTERS.
9:29:29AM YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, PROVIDING WITH YOU A GIFT
9:29:33AM CERTIFICATE.
9:29:34AM GIFT CERTIFICATE AND A LETTER.
9:29:36AM ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND, HUNDRED
9:29:42AM DOLLAR GIFT CERTIFICATE.
9:29:44AM ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:29:46AM AND THEN FOR CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR
9:29:55AM OVER THERE, ENJOY YOURSELF BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER.
9:29:58AM THEIR RESTAURANT IS ON SOUTH HOWARD.
9:30:00AM LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BELLABRAVA GIFT CERTIFICATES OVER THERE.
9:30:07AM I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NICHOLAS WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN
9:30:11AM PREVENTING THE DROWNING OF THREE ADULTS AT SULPHUR SPRINGS
9:30:18AM POOL.
9:30:18AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALEX, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOME WORDS?
9:30:26AM OR GO RIGHT TO THE RESTAURANTS AND START EATING?
9:30:31AM >> THAT WILL HAPPEN.
9:30:32AM I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR PRESENTING THIS AWARD
9:30:37AM AS WELL.
9:30:37AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK -- ALSO LIKE TO SAY THERE'S NO
9:30:41AM ME.
9:30:42AM THERE'S ALWAYS A WE IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS.
9:30:44AM I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE LINE BECAUSE I'LL MISS NAMES AND
9:30:48AM THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:30:48AM AGAIN, I'M VERY GRATEFUL.
9:30:50AM A LOT OF GRATITUDE IN MY HEART AND THANK YOU AGAIN.
9:30:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:31:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
9:31:05AM ALL THE THINGS YOU SAID AND ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE DONE, ONE
9:31:08AM REALLY CAUGHT MY EAR.
9:31:09AM THAT IS THE ONE ABOUT CONVERSATION.
9:31:10AM TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO SOMEONE.
9:31:13AM AND I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT THERE SOLVES A LOT
9:31:16AM OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY IN SOCIETY BECAUSE PEOPLE
9:31:20AM HAVE AN ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE TO SOME DEGREE.
9:31:24AM A LOT OF US DO.
9:31:25AM INCLUDING MYSELF.
9:31:26AM PARKS AND RECREATION, I REMEMBER THE TWO POSTERS I HAD.
9:31:30AM ONE FOR THE BOYS AND ONE FOR THE GIRLS, MS. MEXICO.
9:31:36AM THEY TAUGHT US ABOUT CONVERSATION.
9:31:39AM WASN'T ABOUT PLAYING THE GAME AND WINNING.
9:31:42AM PLAYING THE GAME AND NOT LOSE.
9:31:43AM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR PARKS AND REC.
9:31:46AM CONGRATULATIONS AND CONTINUE DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
9:31:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:31:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST BRIEFLY, WHEN I SAW THE PEOPLE HERE, I
9:31:53AM THOUGHT OF AN OLD SAYING FROM A GREAT GUY WHO LEFT US TOO
9:31:58AM SOON.
9:31:59AM HIS NAME WAS SENATOR PAUL WELLSTONE, AND HE SAID, WE ALL DO
9:32:03AM BETTER WHEN WE ALL DO BETTER.
9:32:05AM WHEN I SEE YOU, THAT'S WHAT I THINK OF.
9:32:08AM GOD BLESS YOU.
9:32:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:32:10AM WE'RE REALLY SO LUCKY THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:32:13AM FAMILY.
9:32:13AM EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, YOU GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.
9:32:16AM YOU MAKE OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE.
9:32:18AM WHAT YOU DO WITH THE YOUTH, WHAT YOU DO WITH THE COMMUNITY,
9:32:22AM YOU'RE A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT GIVING BACK.
9:32:25AM AGAIN, THANK YOU.
9:32:26AM THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN OF APPRECIATION.
9:32:29AM WE WISH WE HAD A HUNDRED MORE PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU BECAUSE,
9:32:34AM AGAIN, YOU'RE WHAT MAKES TAMPA A BETTER PLACE, A GREAT
9:32:38AM PLACE.
9:32:39AM THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:32:40AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
9:32:44AM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I FORGOT TO READ THE
9:32:47AM LETTER.
9:32:48AM CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING SELECTED AS THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE
9:32:57AM MONTH, FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, STRONG WORK ETHIC AND FOR
9:33:00AM GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN ALL ASPECTS OF YOUR POSITION AS
9:33:04AM REC LEADER 2.
9:33:05AM INSTRUMENTAL IN A WIDE RANGE OF YOUTH PROGRAMS AND YOUR
9:33:08AM POSITIVE ATTITUDE MAKE YOU HIGHLY DESERVING OF THIS SPECIAL
9:33:11AM RECOGNITION, AND YOU ARE WELL KNOWN FOR YOUR FOCUS ON THE
9:33:14AM WELL-BEING OF OUR YOUTH AND THE EXTENSIVE VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS
9:33:17AM FOR YOU TO PARTICIPATE OUTSIDE OF YOUR WORK WITH THE CITY OF
9:33:21AM TAMPA.
9:33:21AM YOU DEMONSTRATE A FIRM COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA,
9:33:24AM PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND TO OUR COMMUNITY.
9:33:27AM AND YOU SET A SHINING EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW.
9:33:31AM IT IS EMPLOYEES LIKE YOU, ALEX, THAT MAKE ME PROUD TO SERVE
9:33:34AM AS MAYOR.
9:33:34AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION, MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
9:33:37AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:45AM >> IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR ANNOUNCEMENT,
9:33:48AM SO TO SPEAK, IN REGARDS TO US ACTUALLY QUALIFYING FOR
9:33:52AM RECERTIFICATION.
9:33:53AM I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO THE CITY FOR HELPING US
9:33:57AM IN THIS ENDEAVOR.
9:33:58AM MY EXECUTIVE BOARD, ALL OF THE MEMBERS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
9:34:02AM REALLY SAVED US.
9:34:03AM WE SAVED OURSELVES, SAVED OUR UNIONS, WE LIVE ANOTHER DAY TO
9:34:07AM BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MOVE FORWARD
9:34:10AM PROGRESSIVELY.
9:34:11AM SO THANK YOU.
9:34:12AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL JUST SAY, MR. SIMON, WHAT KIND OF
9:34:19AM HOURS WERE YOU WORKING?
9:34:20AM I SAW YOU 6 A.M. TO 6 P.M.
9:34:22AM YOU WERE WORKING NONSTOP TO MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPEN.
9:34:26AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR WHOLE TEAM
9:34:29AM BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DIDN'T STOP.
9:34:32AM YOU DIDN'T STOP.
9:34:33AM YOU WERE GOING AND GOING AND GOING.
9:34:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:34:35AM >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
9:34:36AM ALSO TO PUT A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON IT.
9:34:39AM WE REALIZED IN NOVEMBER WE LOST 600 MEMBERS.
9:34:41AM SO WE WERE ABLE TO RETRIEVE 600 MEMBERS IN SIX WEEKS.
9:34:46AM HARD JOB.
9:34:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:34:48AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:49AM >> THANK YOU.
9:34:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. WYNN, BEFORE YOU GO, HAPPY EARLY
9:34:54AM BIRTHDAY.
9:34:55AM I WAS GOING DOWN THE LIST.
9:34:57AM I KNOW YOURS IS TOMORROW.
9:34:59AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:35:00AM ALL RIGHT.
9:35:01AM WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT HERE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM WITH
9:35:05AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:35:06AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ARE UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 2.
9:36:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE
9:36:20AM MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:36:21AM JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS HONOREE THAT WE HONORED THIS MORNING,
9:36:24AM I HAVE ONE JUST AS IMPORTANT AND ONE THAT AT AGE 17 HAS DONE
9:36:29AM MORE THAN MOST OF US HAVE DONE IN OUR WHOLE LIVES.
9:36:34AM HONORED TO BE STANDING NEXT TO VALENTINA MICHELINI.
9:36:38AM I'LL READ A FEW OF THE THINGS SHE'S DONE.
9:36:41AM IT IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PROFOUND PLEASURE AND RECOGNITION
9:36:44AM TO THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF VALENTINA MICHELINI WHO ACHIEVED
9:36:48AM THE RANK OF DISTINGUISHED HONOR OF EAGLE SCOUT, IN THE
9:36:52AM SCOUTS OF AMERICA.
9:36:53AM PART OF HER ENDEAVOR WAS PERFORMED BY OASIS NEST WILDLIFE
9:36:59AM SANCTUARY AND INVOLVED BUILDING AND MAINTAINING HABITAT FOR
9:37:02AM INJURED ANIMALS, A LONG ARDUOUS, DIFFICULT ENDEAVOR.
9:37:06AM IN ADDITION, SHE HOLDS THE PRESIDENTIAL GOLD SERVICE AWARD
9:37:09AM FOR COMPETING AND WORKING HARD FOR 500 HOURS OF COMMUNITY
9:37:15AM SERVICE.
9:37:15AM AFTER THAT AWARD, VALENTINA WENT ON TO COMPETE IN THE
9:37:19AM ADDITIONAL 1,200 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE IN THE MOST
9:37:24AM VALUABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:37:28AM SHE HELPED THOSE THAT REALLY NEED HELP.
9:37:30AM SHE HAS CONTINUED THIS EFFORT FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
9:37:36AM THAT RIGHT THERE IS UNBELIEVABLE.
9:37:40AM IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT SHE'S MANAGED TO SPEND TWO WEEKS IN
9:37:44AM A COUNTRY CALLED ETHIOPIA TEACHING AND WORKING WITH ORPHAN
9:37:50AM CHILDREN.
9:37:51AM SHE MAINTAINS A 4.0 GPA AT HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE,
9:37:55AM AND IS LOOKING TOWARDS OBTAINING AN AA DEGREE THIS COMING
9:37:59AM FALL.
9:38:00AM SHE PLANS TO TRANSFER TO A FOUR-YEAR UNIVERSITY AND BECOME A
9:38:03AM TEACHER.
9:38:03AM ALL THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED --
9:38:12AM COMPLETED AT AGE 17.
9:38:14AM NOT 77, BUT 17.
9:38:15AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WISHES VALENTINA EVERY POSITIVE SUCCESS
9:38:22AM AND GOOD FORTUNE IN FUTURE ENDEAVORS PRESENTED THIS 20th
9:38:25AM DAY OF FEBRUARY 2025.
9:38:27AM WITHOUT YOU, WE MAY NOT BE THAT GREAT COMMUNITY.
9:38:35AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:42AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION
9:38:44AM IS THAT VALENTINA WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST WOMEN TO RECEIVE
9:38:47AM AN EAGLE SCOUT AWARD ALONG WITH HER BROTHER WHO HAS ALREADY
9:38:51AM RECEIVED THE EAGLE SCOUT AWARD.
9:38:52AM SO WHEN THEY COMBINE THE SCOUTING INTO SCOUTS OF AMERICA,
9:38:57AM SHE IS ONE OF THE FIRST.
9:38:58AM THEY MAY BE ONE OF THE FIRST BROTHER AND SISTER EAGLE SCOUT
9:39:01AM AWARDEES IN THE STATE.
9:39:05AM I'LL TELL YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS.
9:39:06AM NICHOLAS VOLUNTEERS ON SATURDAY WITH THE HOMELESS FIXING
9:39:10AM BICYCLES AND WHEELCHAIRS.
9:39:10AM VALENTINA SERVES ON THE HOMELESS AND FRANCESCA ORGANIZATION
9:39:17AM THE HOMELESS FEEDING.
9:39:18AM ABOUT 150 TO 200 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE FED EVERY WEEKEND.
9:39:22AM THEY CONTINUE DOING THAT AS A SERVICE BACK TO THIS
9:39:25AM COMMUNITY.
9:39:25AM THEY HAVEN'T STOPPED.
9:39:28AM SO THANK YOU.
9:39:29AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
9:39:44AM >> THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE TODAY AND GIVING ME THIS
9:39:47AM COMMENDATION.
9:39:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:39:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:51AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:39:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DID WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE I'VE
9:39:57AM WORKED WITH THIS FAMILY BEFORE.
9:40:00AM STEVE SAID ABOUT THE BROTHER AND SISTER ISSUE.
9:40:04AM THEY ARE WITH EAGLE SCOUT AND THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
9:40:07AM YOU MENTIONED THE ISSUE WITH THE HOMELESS AND I'VE BEEN OUT
9:40:10AM THERE AND I'VE SEEN NICHOLAS FIX BICYCLES AND ALL THESE
9:40:14AM DIFFERENT THINGS.
9:40:15AM HE'S A PERSON WHO HAS SUCH GREAT SKILLS AND TALENTS.
9:40:19AM VALENTINA HAS A BIG HEART OUT THERE WORKING.
9:40:21AM I REMEMBER WHEN FOLKS WERE FLOODED YOU ALL GOING OUT TO
9:40:24AM TIMBERFALLS AT 113th ON WHAT I CALL A GOOD OL' BOY BOAT.
9:40:28AM IT WAS NOTHING FANCY.
9:40:29AM YOU ALL WENT OUT THERE AND YOU SAVED PEOPLE AND HOPE YOU GOT
9:40:33AM YOUR TETANUS SHOT AFTERWARDS, BECAUSE I DID.
9:40:38AM YOU ALL HAVE A REALLY BIG HEART.
9:40:40AM I MEAN THAT.
9:40:41AM YOU WERE TAUGHT TO SERVE AND TO GIVE BACK JUST BECAUSE IT IS
9:40:44AM THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND TO HELP PEOPLE.
9:40:46AM THAT'S WHAT BEING AN EAGLE SCOUT IS ALL ABOUT.
9:40:49AM GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
9:40:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DIDN'T I WRITE YOU A NOTE?
9:40:56AM I THOUGHT SO?
9:40:57AM I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
9:40:59AM THERE ARE PRESIDENTS WHO HAVE THE TITLE OF EAGLE SCOUT AND
9:41:03AM THE GIRL POWER IS SHINING THROUGH.
9:41:05AM I'VE ACTUALLY ATTENDED A CEREMONY BEFORE FOR ONE OF MY PAST
9:41:08AM STUDENTS AT JEFFERSON.
9:41:09AM AND IT IS REALLY AN HONOR TO STAND BEFORE YOU, SIT HERE
9:41:13AM BEFORE YOU TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T GIVE
9:41:15AM THOSE AWAY.
9:41:16AM WELL DESERVED.
9:41:17AM I WISH YOU ALL THE SUCCESS AND, OF COURSE, CONGRATULATIONS
9:41:20AM TO YOUR MOTHER BECAUSE SHE HAS PUT YOU ON THE RIGHT PATH.
9:41:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:41:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY ALSO CONGRATULATIONS.
9:41:28AM I DROPPED OUT AT WEBELOS, ALL THREE DROPPED OUT OF WEBELOS.
9:41:34AM I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS AFTER THAT POINT.
9:41:36AM CONGRATS TO ALL OF YOU FOR GOING ALL THE WAY.
9:41:39AM NOT ONLY PRESIDENTS, ASTRONAUTS AND OTHERS, ALL KINDS OF
9:41:42AM FAMOUS PEOPLE, YOU COME FROM GREAT FAMILY STOCK, AND YOU ARE
9:41:46AM ON THE RIGHT TRAJECTORY.
9:41:47AM LET US KNOW IN THE FUTURE HOW WE CAN HELP YOU.
9:41:50AM YOU PROBABLY DON'T NEED ANY HELP, BUT IF WE CAN HELP YOU IN
9:41:52AM ANY WAY TO CONNECT WITH WHAT YOU WANT, THE RIGHT UNIVERSITY,
9:41:55AM WE WANT TO RECRUIT YOU BACK, WE NEED YOU ALL TO BE LEADERS
9:41:58AM BACK IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE.
9:42:00AM LASTLY, I WAS LOOKING AT SPENDING TIME IN ETHIOPIA A FEW
9:42:06AM YEARS AGO, WHAT AN AMAZING COUNTRY.
9:42:07AM AND THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING TIME THERE.
9:42:10AM SOME OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES EVER SEEN, SOME OF THE
9:42:14AM WORST PLACES I'VE EVER SEEN.
9:42:16AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION THERE.
9:42:18AM YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC LISTENING, THERE
9:42:20AM ARE TWO ETHIOPIAN CHURCHES HERE.
9:42:23AM I WENT TO ONE RECENTLY.
9:42:25AM IT'S LIKE STEPPING INTO ETHIOPIA.
9:42:28AM SO AMAZING AND FASCINATING.
9:42:29AM >> THANK YOU.
9:42:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:42:30AM WHEN PEOPLE SAY THE SKY IS THE LIMIT, NOW THAT YOU ARE AN
9:42:34AM EAGLE SCOUT, REMEMBER, YOU HAD A PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT GERALD
9:42:39AM FORD EAGLE SCOUT AND NEIL ARMSTRONG, THE FIRST MAN TO WALK
9:42:42AM ON THE MOON, EAGLE SCOUT.
9:42:44AM WHEN YOU SAY THE SKY IS THE LIMIT, YOU HAVE EAGLE SCOUTS
9:42:46AM THAT HAVE WALKED ON THE MOON.
9:42:48AM IT IS REALLY LIMITLESS, BUT IT'S NOT EASY WHAT YOU DO.
9:42:51AM I REMEMBER WHEN NICHOLAS BECAME AN EAGLE SCOUT, IT'S A BIG
9:42:57AM DEAL.
9:42:58AM EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.
9:42:59AM JUST THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HELP.
9:43:01AM MOST RECENTLY WITH THE HURRICANES, WHEN YOU FEED THE
9:43:04AM HOMELESS, WHEN YOU ARE FIXING THE BIKES, FIXING THE
9:43:06AM WHEELCHAIRS, I'VE SEEN YOUR SETUP OVER THE YEARS.
9:43:09AM YOU DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:43:11AM WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD OF YOU.
9:43:13AM YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELVES BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF
9:43:15AM WORK AND YOU VOLUNTEER.
9:43:17AM YOU DO IT FROM THE GOODNESS OF YOUR HEART.
9:43:19AM WE APPRECIATE YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:43:21AM >> THANK YOU.
9:43:21AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:22AM ALL RIGHTY.
9:43:28AM WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT.
9:43:32AM WITH ITEM NUMBER 4, WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME DR. CAROLYN
9:43:35AM COLLINS AND HER TEAM.
9:43:39AM THERE IS A PowerPoint PRESENTATION, WHICH WE'LL BRING UP
9:43:41AM IN JUST A MOMENT HERE.
9:43:42AM WE'LL GET EVERYTHING SET UP.
9:43:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHILE SHE'S STEPPING UP, I WANT TO THANK
9:43:54AM DR. COLLINS AND HER TEAM.
9:43:56AM WE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS THE LAST FEW DAYS AND THEY
9:43:59AM WORKED REALLY HARD PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
9:44:01AM I HOPE THE PUBLIC LOOKS FORWARD TO SEEING IT LIKE WE DO.
9:44:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:44:27AM GOOD MORNING, DR. COLLINS.
9:44:28AM HOW ARE YOU?
9:44:30AM >> GOOD MORNING TO EACH OF YOU.
9:44:34AM THIS IS A BLESSED DAY BECAUSE I'M BEHIND SOME GREAT
9:44:37AM INDIVIDUALS WHO RECEIVED SOME GREAT COMMENDATIONS.
9:44:40AM I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THEM AND CONGRATULATE YOU IN EXPOSING
9:44:44AM THIS TO OUR CITY SO WE SEE THE GREAT THINGS THAT PEOPLE IN
9:44:47AM TAMPA ARE DOING.
9:44:48AM THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
9:44:49AM I'M GOING TO ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE.
9:44:58AM MR. WILLIAMS AND ALSO DR. SCOTT.
9:45:09AM I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PowerPoint PRESENTATION
9:45:13AM REASONABLY FAST BECAUSE WE GAVE YOU A COPY OF IT.
9:45:16AM AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT A LOT OF TIME IN WHAT YOU CAN READ,
9:45:20AM BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ANSWERING SOME
9:45:22AM QUESTIONS.
9:45:23AM WE'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE
9:45:27AM PRESENT TO YOU HERE BRIEFLY, BUT BEFORE I EVEN START THE
9:45:31AM PRESENTATION AND I GO THROUGH THIS, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, WE
9:45:33AM ARE MANDATED BY OUR GRANT THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE STATE TO
9:45:38AM SUBMIT TO THEM A QUARTERLY REPORT.
9:45:41AM TWICE A YEAR, WE HAVE TO UPDATE THAT REPORT TO MAINTAIN THAT
9:45:46AM GRANT.
9:45:46AM A COPY OF THAT I WILL BE SENDING TO THE BOARD SO THAT
9:45:50AM WHETHER WE ARE HERE OR NOT, YOU WILL GET THE SAME UPDATE AND
9:45:54AM YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ACTUALLY WHAT IS GOING ON.
9:45:57AM IT ACTUALLY IS EXTREMELY THOROUGH.
9:45:58AM I LITERALLY DO IT DAY BY DAY SO YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE READING
9:46:03AM BECAUSE WE KEEP A SCHEDULE OF EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING TO MAKE
9:46:07AM OURSELVES SOMEWHAT WORTHY OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THE
9:46:13AM BOARD IS TRYING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:46:14AM THANK YOU.
9:46:14AM WE ARE COMMITTED AS THE JACKSON HOUSE.
9:46:19AM OUR FOCUS AND COMMITMENT IS TO PRESERVE TAMPA, FLORIDA,'S
9:46:23AM NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK.
9:46:25AM I HAVE TO DO THIS WHEN I MAKE A PRESENTATION.
9:46:29AM I AM COMMITTED BECAUSE WILLIE ROBINSON, THE LAST LIVING AND
9:46:35AM THE ONLY SON OF THE ROBINSONS, CAME TO ME AND ASKED ME TO DO
9:46:45AM THIS, AND HE IS DOING WHAT HIS MOTHER ASKED HIM TO DO.
9:46:48AM WE HAVE TO GIVE HOMAGE TO HER BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY IS THE
9:46:51AM ONE THAT PURSUED EVERY ONE OF THESE HISTORICAL LANDMARKS AT
9:46:55AM THE NATIONAL, AT THE STATE, AND AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, PRIOR TO
9:46:57AM HER PASSING.
9:46:58AM SHE WANTED THE STORY TO BE TOLD AND THE HOUSE TO BE
9:47:04AM MAINTAINED.
9:47:04AM THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE.
9:47:05AM AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
9:47:07AM WE WANT TO PRESERVE THAT HISTORY.
9:47:12AM IT'S NOT JUST THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA HISTORY.
9:47:15AM IT'S NOT JUST THIS HOUSE THAT WAS OFF FROM THE SCRUBS.
9:47:20AM WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PRESERVE A HISTORY THAT WILL TELL THE
9:47:23AM STORY OF A FAMILY WHO CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY, NOT JUST TO
9:47:26AM MUSIC, BUT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FOR TRAINING, FOR
9:47:30AM EDUCATION, ET CETERA.
9:47:31AM SO WE REALLY HAVE THE INTEREST IN PRESERVING THAT.
9:47:35AM WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE'RE DOING IT AND WHERE OUR NEXT
9:47:39AM STEPS ARE IS ALL WE WANT TO GIVE TO YOU.
9:47:41AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS.
9:47:43AM THIS IS A SHORT LIST OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE
9:47:47AM COLLABORATED WITH IN ORDER TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE
9:47:50AM DOING.
9:47:50AM MANY OF THEM WE GO BACK TO ON A VERY FREQUENT BASIS.
9:47:56AM SOME WE ONLY GO TO WHEN THEY ASK AND SOME ARE OUT OF PLACE
9:48:00AM NOW.
9:48:00AM MR. DEBBING WITH BRACKEN ENGINEERING THAT'S NO LONGER HERE.
9:48:08AM WHETHER IT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA, THANKS TO THE CRA, TAMPA
9:48:11AM BAY HISTORY CENTER, THE VINIK FAMILY, ACTUALLY THAT REALLY
9:48:16AM GAVE US OUR FIRST BOOST WITH THE $50,000 THAT MR. RONNIE
9:48:22AM WILLIAMS, CONTRACTOR, ACTUALLY DID THE INITIAL STABILIZATION
9:48:27AM OF THAT HOUSE.
9:48:29AM IF YOU SEE ALL THOSE WOODS, THAT IS THE STABILIZATION
9:48:33AM MR. WILLIAMS DID THERE.
9:48:35AM PLETHORA OF ENTITIES, BUSINESSES, INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS
9:48:39AM THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH.
9:48:41AM WE ACTUALLY TRY TO MEET ON A REGULAR BASIS.
9:48:44AM WE MEET MONTHLY.
9:48:46AM WE ALSO HAVE BIMONTHLY COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITHIN THAT.
9:48:51AM YOU SEE THE GROUPS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT THEY HAVE
9:48:53AM GONE OUT.
9:48:54AM WE'VE WORKED WITH ARCHITECTS.
9:48:56AM WE PAID A CONTRACT TO HAVE AN ARCHITECT.
9:48:59AM SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU'LL SEE TODAY AND THEN YOU'LL
9:49:02AM UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE THAT SECOND DOCUMENT AS WELL IN YOUR
9:49:05AM PACKET.
9:49:06AM WE HAVE MET WITH COUNCIL.
9:49:09AM WE'VE MET WITH THE MAYOR.
9:49:11AM WE'VE MET WITH ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM WITH THE MAYOR ON A
9:49:14AM CONSISTENT AND CONSTANT BASIS, TRYING TO GET TO WHERE WE
9:49:18AM NEED TO GET SO WE DON'T SEE THE HOUSE LOOKING LIKE IT LOOK
9:49:21AM ANYMORE AND DEFINITELY WE DO.
9:49:23AM LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR, WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE JACKSON
9:49:27AM HOUSE FALL DOWN.
9:49:28AM WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL PROCESS
9:49:32AM IN THE REBUILD.
9:49:33AM SO WE NEED HELP WITH EVERYBODY THAT'S WILLING TO HELP IT.
9:49:37AM YES, WE DO MEET AND HAVE RECENTLY MET MORE FREQUENTLY WITH
9:49:42AM THE ACCARDIS, TRYING TO COME UP WITH A FINAL DOCUMENT THAT
9:49:46AM YOU'LL SEE IN HERE SHORTLY.
9:49:48AM OUR GOAL IS WHAT YOU SEE DOWN THERE NOW, THIS HISTORICAL
9:49:52AM LANDMARK, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN RESTORE IT.
9:49:56AM WE DON'T WANT IT LOOKING LIKE THAT.
9:49:59AM THE REASON I SAID YOU'LL SEE IT, IF YOU SEE ALL THE WOOD
9:50:02AM CROSSINGS, THAT'S ALL IN THERE THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE
9:50:05AM FRONT, THAT IS THE WORK THAT MR. RONNIE DID IN 2018, 2019.
9:50:15AM SO WE GIVE HIM CREDIT BECAUSE IT WAS THAT, THAT HAS FOUGHT
9:50:20AM BACK AGAINST DEBBY AND ALL OF THESE OTHER STORMS THAT HAVE
9:50:23AM COME THROUGH IN ADDITION TO THE EXTRA HELP THEY HAD THAT WE
9:50:28AM COULDN'T CONTROL THAT COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
9:50:29AM WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROGRESS AT THIS PHASE, WE ARE
9:50:33AM FINALIZING TWO AGREEMENTS.
9:50:35AM WE CALL ONE APPROPRIATION AGREEMENT.
9:50:38AM WE WANT TO TAKE ALL THE MONEY AND PUT IT INTO ONE AREA THAT
9:50:43AM WE HAVE.
9:50:44AM WE HAVE MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, FROM CRA, FROM THE VINIKS,
9:50:47AM FROM THE STATE, TWO POOLS OF MONEY FROM THE STATE.
9:50:51AM THE POOL THAT WE GAINED AS A GRANT, A MILLION DOLLARS AND
9:50:56AM THANKS TO SENATOR RUSSO, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THEY GOT FOR
9:51:03AM THE MAYOR TO GO WITH THAT AND THOSE TWO POOLS OF MONEY.
9:51:07AM WE WANT ALL THAT IN ONE PLACE BEING FINANCIALLY MANAGED THE
9:51:10AM WAY IT IS NOW.
9:51:11AM AND BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER MONEY COMING IN, THAT'S AN
9:51:15AM AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR US TO BRING
9:51:18AM EVERYBODY TOGETHER SO WE WILL MAINTAIN THOSE FUNDS AS WELL
9:51:22AM AS THE MOU THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE GOING
9:51:26AM TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FUNDS AND WHOEVER IS THE FISCAL
9:51:32AM AGENT HAS GOT TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO US.
9:51:34AM SO WE OKAY EVERYTHING BEFORE WE ARE SCHEDULED TO OKAY
9:51:39AM EVERYTHING BEFORE IT IS SPENT.
9:51:41AM AND THEN THE SECOND BIG THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET IS
9:51:45AM THE EASEMENT.
9:51:46AM YOU'LL SEE THAT SHORTLY, BUT THE EASEMENT IS A MANDATE.
9:51:49AM THAT IS A MANDATE THAT WE GOT FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AND
9:51:53AM EVERYONE SAYING FIRE SAFETY, FEMA.
9:51:56AM YOU GOT TO HAVE IT.
9:51:58AM THIS IS A WOODEN HOUSE.
9:51:59AM WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE IT AS A WOODEN HOUSE CURRENTLY, AND
9:52:04AM WE ALSO PUT SOME BIDS OUT THERE TO SEE WHO CAN DO IT.
9:52:08AM EVERYBODY CAN'T WORK ON HISTORICAL HOMES.
9:52:10AM EVERYBODY JUST CAN'T DO IT.
9:52:12AM WE LOOKED.
9:52:13AM WE FOUND INDIVIDUALS.
9:52:14AM WE NEED TO GO BACK BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO HAVE CURRENT RFQs,
9:52:18AM RFPs IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
9:52:20AM CURRENTLY TODAY IN YOUR PACKET, YOU SEE WHAT WE LITERALLY
9:52:23AM WANT TO PUT ON THE STREET, AS THEY SAY.
9:52:26AM WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE BEFORE, BUT WE DECIDED WE
9:52:29AM WOULD BRING IT HERE.
9:52:30AM LET YOU SEE IT, AND HOPEFULLY BY TOMORROW, TONIGHT OR NO
9:52:35AM LATER THAN MONDAY, THAT WILL BE ON THE STREET.
9:52:38AM DOING THE 30 DAYS REQUIRED IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES WITH THE
9:52:41AM CITY.
9:52:41AM WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ARCHITECT,
9:52:45AM YES, WE HAVE ONE.
9:52:46AM HE WILL ALSO APPLY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO KNOWS
9:52:50AM HOW TO DO THIS AND THE STATE TOLD US THEY WILL WORK VERY
9:52:53AM WELL WITH US, BUT TO SPEND THEIR FUNDS, WE CAN'T USE
9:52:57AM SOMETHING THAT WE GOT THREE YEARS AGO OR TWO YEARS AGO, A
9:53:00AM YEAR AGO.
9:53:01AM IT HAS TO BE CURRENT.
9:53:01AM THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK OUT AND DO THE RFQ, PUT IT
9:53:06AM OUT THERE, FIND OUT WHO CAN COME AND WHO IS WILLING TO DO
9:53:09AM THE WORK.
9:53:10AM WE ALREADY LOOKED AND FOUND THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE IN THE
9:53:13AM COUNTRY THAT CAN DO THE WINDOWS IN THAT HOUSE.
9:53:15AM IT IS MANDATED AND WE FOUND ONE COMPANY.
9:53:17AM SO WE KNOW WE CAN PUT RFQ OUT FOR THAT OR ENGINEER CAN PUT
9:53:22AM IT OUT OR CONTRACT MANAGER, ABOUT YOU THAT PERSON IS GOING
9:53:24AM TO STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE ONE PERSON THAT WE'VE ALREADY DID
9:53:28AM THE RESEARCH ON.
9:53:30AM WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS AS I INDICATED TO YOU, AND YOU HAVE A
9:53:33AM COPY OF IT IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS, ANY MODIFICATIONS, ANY
9:53:37AM CHANGES, ADDITIONS, MORE THAN HAPPY TO ACCEPT THEM FOR YOU.
9:53:41AM MENTIONING EARLY, THE EASEMENT, THE ORANGE SECTION THAT YOU
9:53:45AM SEE AROUND THAT GREEN BUILDING AND I DIDN'T DO THOSE COLORS,
9:53:48AM ORANGE AND GREEN, SHOULD ANYONE ASK, BUT THAT ORANGE
9:53:51AM SECTION, THE GREEN IS THE JACKSON HOUSE.
9:53:54AM THE ORANGE SECTION IS THE EASEMENT THAT WE NEED ON BOTH
9:53:58AM SIDES OF THE JACKSON HOUSE ON THE EAST AND THE WEST FOR
9:54:01AM PEOPLE, WHAT IS THE EAST AND THE WEST?
9:54:04AM THE WAY I DO IT, EAST SIDE IS THE TRAIN STATION SIDE.
9:54:09AM THE WEST SIDE IS THE COURT HOUSE SIDE.
9:54:13AM WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, FOR FIRE,
9:54:17AM ET CETERA.
9:54:17AM CAN WE BUILD ON THAT WITHOUT THAT?
9:54:19AM YES.
9:54:20AM WE'VE DONE ENOUGH WORK.
9:54:22AM WE'VE GONE TO THE FIRE.
9:54:24AM WE'VE BEEN TO THE FIRE MARSHAL, CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE'VE BEEN
9:54:28AM EVERYWHERE WE NEED TO GO.
9:54:29AM WE CAN BUILD.
9:54:30AM WHOEVER BUILD NEXT TO US, IF THEY COME DOWN TO GET A PERMIT,
9:54:36AM THEY SHOULD BE TOLD YOU HAVE TO STAY SEVEN FEET FROM EACH
9:54:40AM SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
9:54:41AM WE CAN BUILD ON IT BUT SO MUCH BETTER IF WE HAD THAT
9:54:45AM EASEMENT.
9:54:49AM THIS IS PART OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE
9:54:51AM WORKING WITH THE ACCARDIS AND THEY CALL IT ADDITIONAL LAND.
9:54:54AM WE ALWAYS CALL IT EASEMENT BECAUSE IT COMES WITH THE
9:54:57AM HISTORICAL LANGUAGE THAT'S REQUIRED BECAUSE WE ARE DOING A
9:55:00AM HISTORICAL RENOVATION HERE.
9:55:02AM ENGAGEMENT AND THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.
9:55:14AM I KNOW WE'VE SAID THESE.
9:55:16AM I'M NOT GOING TO BE REPETITIVE.
9:55:18AM WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS.
9:55:20AM WE WILL DO THAT VETTING PROCESS.
9:55:22AM WE'RE HOPING BY MARCH 20, AS SOON AS YOU GUYS, THE CITY SAY
9:55:26AM GO, WE ARE READY TO PUT THAT RFP OUT.
9:55:30AM WE HAVE ALL OF THE PLACES, MR. RONNIE BEING A CONTRACTOR,
9:55:33AM TOLD US WHAT TO DO, HOW TO DO IT, WHEN TO DO IT AND WHERE TO
9:55:37AM DO IT.
9:55:38AM WE'RE READY TO MOVE.
9:55:39AM ALL WE NEED IS THE GO SIGN.
9:55:41AM I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS ABOUT THREE, FOUR MONTHS.
9:55:45AM WE'RE TAKING A LEAD ROLL BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING THE WHIPPIN'.
9:55:48AM PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHAT WE ARE NOT DOING, SO THIS IS WHAT WE
9:55:50AM ARE DOING.
9:55:51AM WE'RE JUST TAKING THE LEAD.
9:55:53AM WE DID THE RFP.
9:55:55AM WE'LL GO OUT THERE WITH IT AS LONG AS THE CITY SAYS IT'S
9:56:00AM OKAY AND THE STATE SAYS IT'S OKAY.
9:56:02AM MR. SMITH AT THE STATE WILL LOOK AT IT.
9:56:04AM THE CITY WILL LOOK AT IT AND IT'S READY TO GO AND YOU HAVE
9:56:07AM EYES ON IT NOW.
9:56:08AM THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS, WE WANT TO MENTION THOSE FOR YOU.
9:56:14AM I UNDERSTAND FLORIDA SUNSHINE.
9:56:16AM WE DO MEET EVERY OTHER MONDAY.
9:56:18AM I'VE INVITED A BOARD MEMBER TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS.
9:56:22AM IF ANY OF YOU GUYS WANT TO JOIN ON, IT IS WHAT WE CALL --
9:56:27AM IT'S VIRTUAL.
9:56:28AM IT'S NOT IN PERSON.
9:56:29AM BUT WE'RE GOING TO RESUME THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS SO THAT THE
9:56:34AM COMMUNITY CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS OF US, SEE WHAT WE ARE
9:56:37AM DOING.
9:56:38AM WE STOPPED THEM WITH COVID.
9:56:39AM NOW WE'RE GOING TO RESUME, AND THE FIRST ONE, YOU SEE THE
9:56:42AM SCHEDULE.
9:56:43AM WE ARE DOING IT QUARTERLY.
9:56:44AM WE'RE DOING THEM ON THE SECOND OR FIRST SATURDAY OF EACH
9:56:47AM MONTH AT 10:00, AND WE'RE DOING THEM VERY SHORT, GIVE YOU A
9:56:50AM LITTLE BIT OF A KIND OF SEMI BREAKFAST BRUNCH.
9:56:55AM AND THE FIRST MEETING IS ALREADY SET UP.
9:56:58AM MARCH 8, CARVER CITY LINCOLN GARDENS.
9:57:01AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT IN THE SAME AREA.
9:57:03AM WE'LL TRY TO CARRY IT AROUND THE CITY SO THAT IT WILL BE IN
9:57:06AM THE COMMUNITY SO PEOPLE WANT TO COME OUT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO
9:57:10AM COME.
9:57:10AM WE ARE THERE FOR THEM AND THEY ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO
9:57:12AM ATTEND AND ASK US QUESTIONS.
9:57:14AM WHAT WE'RE DOING IN PHASE ONE THROUGH FIVE HERE, FIVE IS
9:57:18AM WHEN YOU ALL ARE COMING WITH US TO HELP CUT THE RIBBON AND
9:57:21AM WE ASK ALL OF YOU GUYS TO BE THERE.
9:57:23AM THE FIRST PHASE IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
9:57:25AM AND THAT IS TO GET THESE RFQs OUT THERE SO THAT WE CAN GET
9:57:29AM THE BIDDING PROCESS STARTED AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE
9:57:32AM SCOPE OF WORK.
9:57:33AM THE SCOPE OF WORK HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED, STABILIZING THE
9:57:37AM FLOORS.
9:57:37AM YOU CAN FORGET THAT.
9:57:38AM WE HAVE TO REDO THE FOUNDATION.
9:57:40AM IT'S CALLED SCALING AND STABILIZING THE WALLS.
9:57:46AM EVERY ONE OF THOSE NINE SCOPE OF WORK ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN
9:57:51AM IDENTIFIED IN OUR GRANT THAT WE HAD TO DO AT THE STATE,
9:57:55AM WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THEM WHILE WE ALSO UPGRADE THEM AND
9:57:58AM BRING THEM UP CURRENTLY TO WHAT THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS
9:58:01AM ARE.
9:58:01AM IT IS FROM THAT POINT ON WE'LL GO IN THE FOUNDATION.
9:58:05AM WE ARE NOT PUTTING A TIMELINE ON IT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT
9:58:07AM WE'VE GOT TO GET CODES APPROVAL, ET CETERA.
9:58:10AM THIS IS ONE OF THE SIMPLE INITIAL GETTING STARTED, LAYING
9:58:17AM OUT.
9:58:18AM THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THIS, BUT WE
9:58:20AM WENT INTO THE HOUSE.
9:58:22AM WE MARK THINGS.
9:58:23AM WE HAVE TAKEN THEM OUT.
9:58:24AM WE ARE PAYING FOR THEM.
9:58:26AM THEY WERE FUMIGATED, THEY WERE CLEANED AND PUT IN STORAGE.
9:58:29AM SOMEBODY SAID WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT CAME OUT OF THE
9:58:32AM HOUSE THAT YOU NEED TO SAVE.
9:58:34AM THAT'S NOT MY BALL OF WAX.
9:58:39AM MINE IS TO KNOW ONCE WE GET THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS ON,
9:58:43AM THEY KNOW THE PERCENTAGE.
9:58:44AM THEY CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY AND VERY
9:58:48AM INSTRUMENTAL.
9:58:49AM THEY WERE ORIGINALLY STORING IT.
9:58:51AM FROM THE BRICKS ON THE CHIMNEY TO THE WALLS IN THE HOUSE, TO
9:58:54AM THE DOOR KNOBS, ET CETERA, EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN REUSE HAS
9:58:58AM ALREADY BEEN PUT IN STORAGE.
9:58:59AM IT IS THERE, AND WE ARE PAYING ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO MAKE
9:59:03AM SURE THAT IT IS KEPT IN A PRISTINE STATE.
9:59:05AM JUST ANOTHER KIND OF LAYOUT DRAWING OF WHAT THE ARCHITECT
9:59:10AM HAS ALREADY PUT TOGETHER.
9:59:11AM WE HAVE A WHOLE LAYOUT OF THIS.
9:59:14AM IT'S NOT LIKE WE'VE NOT BEEN DOING ANYTHING.
9:59:16AM WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT.
9:59:18AM WE JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS AS YOU HEARD EARLIER THAT
9:59:20AM MAY HAVE BEEN LIMITING WHERE WE GO WITH IT.
9:59:22AM OUR GOAL IS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR VISION, OUR MISSION AT
9:59:25AM THE JACKSON HOUSE, AND THAT IS TO RESTORE THE HISTORY TO
9:59:29AM INSPIRE FUTURE GENERATIONS.
9:59:31AM I DON'T KNOW OF ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN MOVE FASTER, EXCEPT
9:59:38AM ASKING EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY TO HELP.
9:59:40AM PEOPLE ASK WHY YOU GUYS ARE NOT ASKING FOR MONEY.
9:59:43AM WE HAVE LAW FIRMS THAT HAVE US COME AND DO PRESENTATIONS TO
9:59:46AM THEM.
9:59:46AM THEY GIVE US DONATIONS.
9:59:48AM WE HAVE PEOPLE GO IN ON OUR WEBSITE AND GIVE US DONATIONS.
9:59:50AM MONEY IS NOT WHAT -- WE NEED MONEY.
9:59:53AM WE NEED MONEY.
9:59:54AM WE NEED MONEY.
9:59:55AM EVERYBODY NEED MONEY.
9:59:56AM BUT MONEY IS NOT EXACTLY THE CRITICAL PIECE HERE.
9:59:59AM THE CRITICAL PIECE HERE IS WHAT CAN YOU ALL DO AS THE
10:00:04AM COUNCIL TO HELP US HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA MOVE THIS
10:00:08AM NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK FORWARD AND GET THE THINGS.
10:00:11AM I MUST ADMIT, THANKS TO THE COUNCIL THAT I HAVE SPOKE TO,
10:00:17AM AND I KNOW I SPOKE PERSONALLY AT LEAST WITH THREE OF YOU AND
10:00:19AM TO THE OTHERS, WE'RE STILL COMING BECAUSE WE WANT TO TALK
10:00:23AM WITH EACH OF YOU AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
10:00:26AM WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THOSE TWO MAJOR
10:00:30AM THINGS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE'VE HAD OFFERS.
10:00:33AM WE'VE GOT TO DO APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
10:00:38AM WE HAVE NOW TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
10:00:40AM BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
10:00:41AM I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO WALK IN -- I WANT ANYBODY TO WALK IN
10:00:45AM ANY DAY AND AUDIT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND I DON'T WANT -- I'LL
10:00:48AM SAY THIS PUBLICLY NOW.
10:00:51AM JACKSON HOUSE IS NOT WRITING THE CHECKS FOR THIS.
10:00:53AM THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION PURPOSEFULLY AGREED WAY LONG
10:00:58AM TIME AGO WITH MR. VINIK, AND WE PUT IT IN THE TAMPA BAY
10:01:02AM HISTORY CENTER HAND SO THEY HAVE THEIR CFO, IT WOULD BE
10:01:06AM MANAGED FROM THERE.
10:01:07AM DO WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING?
10:01:08AM YES.
10:01:09AM DO WE SIGN OFF?
10:01:11AM WE'RE SIGNING OFF ON EVERYTHING GIVEN TO US AND WE'RE ALSO
10:01:14AM LOOKING AT ALL OF THE CONTRACTS AND WE HAVE AN MOU WHERE
10:01:17AM THERE ARE THREE OF US THAT SIGN OFF.
10:01:18AM BUT WE ARE NOT HANDLING THE MONEY AND WHOEVER HANDLES THE
10:01:21AM MONEY, WE WANT THEM TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERY PENNY.
10:01:28AM WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT AS
10:01:32AM WELL.
10:01:32AM IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I'M AT THE END.
10:01:35AM IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
10:01:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR. COLLINS, FOR
10:01:40AM YOUR LEADERSHIP.
10:01:40AM I HAVE 110% FAITH IN YOU AND YOUR BOARD.
10:01:45AM I KNOW THAT YOU'LL GET THIS VERY SIGNIFICANT, IMPORTANT
10:01:50AM HISTORICAL HOME RESTORED.
10:01:53AM NEXT MONTH IS GOING TO BE TEN YEARS THAT I HAD MY FIRST
10:01:55AM CONVERSATION AS COUNCIL MEMBER-ELECT WITH MAYOR BUCKHORN AND
10:01:58AM THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED HIM, WHAT ABOUT THE JACKSON
10:02:01AM HOUSE?
10:02:01AM I'VE ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED WITH THE HOME, THE HISTORY OF
10:02:06AM THE HOME, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HOME.
10:02:07AM IT WAS JUST OVER FOUR YEARS AGO THAT I TOURED THE HOME.
10:02:10AM YOU MENTIONED MR. RONNIE WILLIAMS REGARDING ALL THE WOOD
10:02:14AM BOTTOMS THAT ARE INSIDE KEEPING THE HOUSE UP, I WALKED
10:02:18AM THROUGH THE SECOND FLOOR, THE FIRST FLOOR.
10:02:21AM I'LL SHOW YOU THE PICTURES.
10:02:22AM IT'S BEAUTIFUL INSIDE.
10:02:24AM IT'S VERY COLORFUL.
10:02:28AM IT'S FROZEN IN TIME.
10:02:29AM IT'S A PIECE OF HISTORY.
10:02:31AM LIKE THE FUSE BOX IS THE ORIGINAL BOX FROM 50 YEARS AGO.
10:02:35AM THERE ARE SO MANY ELEMENTS.
10:02:36AM BUT I HAVE COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAITH THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM
10:02:39AM WILL GET THIS DONE WITH YOUR PARTNERS.
10:02:41AM I'M BEHIND YOU 150%.
10:02:43AM I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, BUT IT'S IN GOOD HANDS.
10:02:49AM I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO COME TO FRUITION.
10:02:51AM THANK YOU.
10:02:51AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:02:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. COLLINS, AND YOUR
10:02:58AM TEAM.
10:02:58AM YOU HAVE A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD
10:03:01AM ON THIS.
10:03:01AM THIS ANSWERS, I THINK, THE QUESTION THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN
10:03:04AM ASKING US FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.
10:03:05AM WHAT IS THE PLAN TO SAVE IT?
10:03:07AM FOR NOW AND IF ANYBODY -- EVERY TIME IT RAINS, EVERY TIME
10:03:11AM WIND COMES BY, PEOPLE SAY WHY ISN'T THE CITY SAVING THE
10:03:14AM JACKSON HOUSE?
10:03:15AM I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS HERE AND THAT YOU'RE
10:03:19AM PRESENTING SHOWS EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE LEGITIMATELY TRYING TO
10:03:22AM WORK TOGETHER TO SAVE IT.
10:03:23AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT.
10:03:25AM AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, AND YOU GUYS PUT
10:03:33AM MORE DETAIL IN THAN YOU TOLD ME ABOUT YESTERDAY, WHICH I
10:03:36AM APPRECIATE, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO DO TODAY IS JUST SHOW THE
10:03:41AM PLAN.
10:03:41AM BUT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE
10:03:44AM HOLDUP?
10:03:44AM WE NEED A MORE DETAILED PLAN, WHICH THE ARCHITECT WILL GIVE.
10:03:50AM MY SUGGESTION TO THEM IS THAT THEY PUT -- I WANT THEM TO
10:03:54AM INCLUDE THE RFP HERE SO WE COULD SEE IT.
10:03:56AM I THINK THEY SHOULD PUT THE RFP OUT MORE QUICKLY SO WE COULD
10:04:00AM GET A DETAILED PLAN, AND THAT WILL HELP US SHOW THE PUBLIC
10:04:03AM WHAT WE CAN DO.
10:04:05AM IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS EXACTLY FOR THAT, I WOULD
10:04:09AM SUGGEST SHE COME BACK BEFORE THE CRA.
10:04:11AM MAYBE THE CRA -- IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY MUCH FOR THAT
10:04:14AM STAGE OF IT.
10:04:14AM THE OTHER THING IS IN TERMS OF THE EASEMENT, THERE'S BEEN A
10:04:19AM LOT OF BACK AND FORTH ON THAT.
10:04:21AM PART OF IT IS THAT ALIS DRUMGO WHO WAS HERE, SPENT A LOT OF
10:04:25AM TIME NEGOTIATING THAT.
10:04:26AM THAT DEAL WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND MAYBE IN THE CRA
10:04:29AM MONTHS AGO.
10:04:32AM THERE WAS SOME MISINFORMATION ABOUT THE DEAL.
10:04:35AM THE DEAL WAS THAT THE CRA WOULD PROVIDE FOR A D.O.T. CUTOUT
10:04:40AM TO ALLOW ANOTHER ENTRANCE FOR THE ACCARDI PROPERTY BECAUSE
10:04:43AM THEY OWN ALL THE PROPERTY AROUND IT.
10:04:45AM AND THE CRA PAID, I THINK, $1.5 MILLION.
10:04:48AM THE MISINFORMATION WAS THAT SOME FOLKS SAID, WELL, THE CITY
10:04:52AM IS TRADING THE ALLEYWAY FOR THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:04:56AM WHAT THE CRA DID WAS TO PAY FOR THAT CUTOUT WITH D.O.T. IN
10:05:00AM EXCHANGE FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:05:03AM BUT THAT CONTRACT HAS A STIPULATION THAT IT'S DEPENDENT ON
10:05:09AM THE VACATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.
10:05:11AM JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, BEFORE MARTY STOPS ME, THE VACATION
10:05:16AM OF THE ALLEYWAY IS QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:05:17AM SO THE CITY CANNOT GIVE IT -- IT IS A DECISION OF CITY
10:05:21AM COUNCIL SITTING QUASI-JUDICIAL FORMAT, WE HAVE TO DECIDE
10:05:24AM THAT BASED ON THE EVIDENCE IN THE ROOM.
10:05:26AM IT CAN'T BE PART OF ANY DEAL.
10:05:28AM IT CAN'T HAVE ANY -- SOMEBODY CAN GIVE EVIDENCE ABOUT THE
10:05:31AM JACKSON HOUSE, BUT IT WOULD BE THERE.
10:05:34AM YOU ALL KNOW ALSO THAT WHEN A VACATION HAPPENS, YOU OUTLINE,
10:05:38AM DR. COLLINS, THE SPACE AROUND THE OUTSIDE, BUT YOUR PORTION
10:05:42AM OF THE ALLEYWAY, ALSO IF THE VACATION OCCURS, WOULD, IN
10:05:47AM THEORY, GO OVER TO -- SO WHERE THE TREE IS IN THE BACK TO
10:05:50AM THE LEFT THERE, THERE WOULD BE SOME PORTION OF THE ALLEYWAY
10:05:53AM THAT WOULD GO TO THE JACKSON HOUSE AS WELL.
10:05:55AM THE HOLDUP IS THAT THE ONLY HOLDUP NOW IS THAT THE ACCARDIS
10:06:01AM HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE VACATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.
10:06:03AM THEY ARE AFRAID THAT THE FOUNDATION WILL OPPOSE IT.
10:06:08AM SO THEY WANT THE FOUNDATION TO AGREE IN ADVANCE THAT THEY'LL
10:06:12AM SUPPORT IT.
10:06:12AM THAT IS THE LAST PIECE, WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL,
10:06:15AM THAT IS THE LAST PIECE THAT HAS TO BE WORKED ON.
10:06:17AM I'VE COMMITTED TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE FOUNDATION.
10:06:20AM I TALKED TO JASON ACCARDI.
10:06:22AM I TALKED TO HIS REPRESENTATIVES.
10:06:24AM I THINK WE'RE NOT THAT FAR.
10:06:26AM I THINK THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THIS QUICKLY IF WE ALL WORK
10:06:30AM TOGETHER AND MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
10:06:32AM AND THEN SIMULTANEOUSLY THE FOUNDATION WORKS ON THE PLAN
10:06:35AM WITH THE RFP AND THE ARCHITECT, WE'LL HAVE A DETAILED PLAN.
10:06:39AM THE ARCHITECTS I TALKED TO AND THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
10:06:43AM STUDIED IT BUT TALKED ABOUT IT, SAY PEEVE TO PEEL ALL THE
10:06:46AM PIECES APART AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.
10:06:49AM THERE MAY BE A TIME WHERE THERE IS NOTHING THERE AND PEOPLE
10:06:51AM IN THE COMMUNITY WILL PANIC.
10:06:53AM BUT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE IT APART TO REBUILD IT.
10:06:56AM AND TRY TO REUSE AS MUCH OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION AS WE
10:06:59AM COULD.
10:07:00AM THE LAST THING IS I WANT TO REITERATE AGAIN WHAT I SAID
10:07:05AM EARLIER, THIS IS THE LETTER THAT I SHOWED A COUPLE OF MONTHS
10:07:09AM AGO WHEN THIS CAME UP.
10:07:11AM MARTY, COULD YOU PASS ONE OF THESE TO DR. COLLINS.
10:07:16AM I THINK YOU HAVE THIS.
10:07:16AM THIS IS A LETTER FROM THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION, NOVEMBER
10:07:19AM 13, 2013, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN.
10:07:22AM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I MET WILLIE ROBINSON.
10:07:25AM HE GAVE ME THIS LETTER.
10:07:27AM IT WAS WEDNESDAY, THE WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
10:07:29AM AND WHAT THIS SAYS IS THE CITY WAS GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN THE
10:07:33AM SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, PRESUMABLY WHEN NOBODY WAS
10:07:36AM PAYING ATTENTION AND THEY WERE GOING TO FINE WILLIE FOR
10:07:39AM TEARING IT DOWN AND ALSO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES.
10:07:42AM I THINK SHE'S PUTTING IT ON THE OVERHEAD.
10:07:46AM LINDA SAUL-SENA CAME IN THE NEXT DAY TO CITY COUNCIL AND
10:07:51AM PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON THAT WAS HERE IS CHARLIE MIRANDA.
10:07:54AM SO THANK YOU TO HIM FOR HELPING TO SAVE IT.
10:07:56AM I WAS NOT HERE.
10:07:57AM BUT CITY COUNCIL SAVED IT FROM BEING TORN DOWN, AND THEN
10:08:00AM SHORTLY AFTER DR. COLLINS AND HER FOUNDATION STEPPED UP.
10:08:05AM IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD TO TRY TO FULFILL THE DREAM OF THE
10:08:08AM ROBINSON FAMILY, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO ME, I THINK THE
10:08:13AM JACKSON HOUSE TELLS A STORY THAT MY KIDS KNOW, AND I HOPE
10:08:16AM EVERY KID GROWING UP IN THE FUTURE KNOWS, WHICH IS NOT ONLY
10:08:19AM WAS THERE FAMOUS MUSIC AND FAMOUS PEOPLE THERE, BUT WHEN
10:08:23AM AFRICAN AMERICANS LEFT, EVEN WAR VETERANS WHEN THEY LEFT
10:08:29AM TAMPA UNION STATION, THEY COULDN'T STAY IN WHITE HOTELS.
10:08:31AM AND THIS IS LAST IMPORTANT PIECE OF CENTRAL AVENUE, WE NEED
10:08:36AM TO PRESERVE THAT HISTORY.
10:08:37AM THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT.
10:08:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:08:39AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:08:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:08:40AM GOOD MORNING.
10:08:41AM THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS MORNING.
10:08:42AM I'M SURE YOU KNOW WE GET BOMBARDED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
10:08:48AM JACKSON HOUSE.
10:08:48AM I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED -- I THINK THAT, ONE, HOW DID WE GET
10:08:55AM HERE.
10:08:56AM IT'S BEEN SO LONG IN THE COMING AND NOT A LOT OF THINGS
10:08:59AM HAPPENING.
10:08:59AM I KNOW YOU CAN'T GO BACKWARDS.
10:09:02AM MY CONCERN IS I DON'T SEE A LOT OF PROOF POSITIVE STEPS.
10:09:07AM IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE MISSING A PROJECT MANAGER.
10:09:10AM IS THERE A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS?
10:09:13AM >> IT'S A PROJECT MANAGER, WHAT THEY CALL A CONSTRUCTION
10:09:15AM MANAGER.
10:09:16AM THE STATE HAS ASKED US TO ASK MR. RONNIE WILLIAMS, HE CAN
10:09:25AM STAY ON THE BOARD IF HE DOESN'T GET PAID OR TO STEP OFF THE
10:09:27AM BOARD BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE PROJECT AND TO HAVE HIM BE THAT.
10:09:31AM WE WILL GET A PROJECT MANAGER.
10:09:34AM TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER HAS SOMEONE THAT WAS WORKING WITH
10:09:37AM THEM THAT WAS SOMEWHAT KIND OF SERVING THAT PURPOSE WITH
10:09:40AM THEM BECAUSE IT IS NOT AT THIS PHASE, DAY-TO-DAY MANAGEMENT
10:09:45AM IS NOT JUST THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:09:46AM WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FITTING AND PRUDENT TO BRING IN OTHER
10:09:52AM INDIVIDUALS.
10:09:52AM SO WE'VE BEEN USING OTB CONSULTANT TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE
10:09:56AM QUESTIONS, BUT THEY ARE NOT THAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
10:09:58AM AND BE UP FRONT WITH YOU, THERE IS A COMPONENT MISSING
10:10:06AM BECAUSE I'VE WRITTEN TWICE, TWO YEARS IN A ROW, I'M DOING IT
10:10:10AM AGAIN NOW FOR A GRANT.
10:10:11AM I AM NOT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:10:13AM I'M NOT A DIRECTOR FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:10:15AM I CHAIR THE BOARD AND I SHARE MY LIFE TO DO THIS FOR THE
10:10:20AM LAST TEN YEARS.
10:10:21AM SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD FIND -- I HAD A
10:10:25AM GENTLEMAN CALL ME FROM CALIFORNIA SAY WHAT YOU NEED?
10:10:27AM I SAID WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ME ENOUGH MONEY SO WE CAN GET AN
10:10:31AM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR DIRECTOR, SOMEBODY THAT COULD BE THERE
10:10:33AM AND DO DAY TO DAY ALMOST ON A FULL-TIME BASIS.
10:10:37AM I'M STILL PURSUING THAT BECAUSE WITH A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER
10:10:41AM THAT WILL ACTUALLY BRING IN ALL THESE PEOPLE.
10:10:46AM MR. WILLIAMS, IF I SAY IT WRONG, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT
10:10:51AM ENGINEERING FIRM OR THAT ARCHITECT FIRM MAKE SURE THEY HIRE
10:10:55AM THE PERSON ON OR HAVE THEM SERVING.
10:10:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP, SIR, SO WE CAN GET YOU ON
10:11:01AM THE MICROPHONE.
10:11:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME INJECT.
10:11:06AM IT SEEMS AS THOUGH -- I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT
10:11:09AM SEEMS AS THOUGH A PROJECT MANAGER WOULD BE MUCH MORE OF AN
10:11:13AM ALL-ENCOMPASSING, BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THESE
10:11:17AM ELEMENTS FOR YOU ALL AND HELP YOU GUIDE THIS ENTIRE PROJECT
10:11:20AM FOR ALL THE COMPONENTS.
10:11:21AM SO A PROFESSIONAL PROJECT MANAGER SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A
10:11:24AM GREAT WAY TO FACILITATE AND MAYBE ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE
10:11:27AM FRUSTRATION THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE EXPERIENCING WITH -- FROM
10:11:30AM FOLKS AND SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION THAT THE ELECTED FOLKS AND
10:11:33AM OTHERS THAT HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS.
10:11:35AM I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT'S LISTENING TO HELP
10:11:38AM FACILITATE YOU GUYS GETTING A PROFESSIONAL PROJECT MANAGER,
10:11:42AM SOMEBODY WHO IS CAPABLE OF DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK AND
10:11:47AM UNDERSTANDS THE NUANCES OF WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT
10:11:50AM GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND THE
10:11:54AM SENSITIVITIES THAT THIS PROJECT INVOLVES TO GET THIS THING
10:11:58AM DONE.
10:11:58AM I THINK THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE A CATALYST TO HELP YOU ALL
10:12:02AM OUT IS MY ADVICE.
10:12:04AM >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
10:12:05AM FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THE PROJECT MANAGER PIECE.
10:12:09AM >> I THINK HE'S SPEAKING OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT BEFORE
10:12:12AM CONSTRUCTION STARTS.
10:12:12AM OTB CONSULTANT, CONSULTING HAS BEEN PROVIDING SOME OF THAT
10:12:20AM SERVICE.
10:12:23AM TRYING TO GET ALL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER AND DEVELOP A
10:12:25AM PLAN TO GET US TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN START CONSTRUCTION.
10:12:33AM >> THAT'S WHY YOU ARE RIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DECIDED.
10:12:36AM BUT BEFORE WE GO WITH A PROJECT MANAGER, DESIGN PLAN, THEY
10:12:40AM HAVE INDICATED TO US THAT WE HAVE ONE, ON WHAT WE WANT THE
10:12:43AM HOUSE TO BE SO THAT WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL COME IN, THEY GET
10:12:46AM THE PROJECT MANAGER, AND THEY CAN RUN IT WITH EVERYTHING.
10:12:49AM YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WE WANT THE
10:12:52AM COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND ONE CRITICAL PIECE.
10:12:54AM WE CAN TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN NOW.
10:12:56AM WE CAN REBUILD THE HOUSE WITH CEMENT BRICKS, ET CETERA.
10:12:59AM AND ONCE THE HOUSE IS COMPLETED, PART OF THE COMPLETION, YOU
10:13:02AM WOULDN'T SEE THE BRICKS.
10:13:04AM YOU'LL SEE A FACADE ON THE OUTSIDE, WHICH WOULD BE THE WOOD
10:13:07AM SIDING, AND IT WILL LOOK JUST LIKE THE OLD JACKSON HOUSE BUT
10:13:10AM ALSO DO A MAJOR THING THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO DO.
10:13:14AM WE WOULD LOSE THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
10:13:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LIKE I SAID, I FEEL LIKE EVEN ON THE FRONT
10:13:19AM END OF THIS, IF YOU GUYS MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AND TALK TO SOME
10:13:22AM FOLKS ABOUT -- THAT MAY, AGAIN, BE THE SOLUTION TO THIS
10:13:27AM PROBLEM.
10:13:27AM SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
10:13:29AM THANK YOU.
10:13:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:13:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:13:32AM APPRECIATE IT.
10:13:32AM GOOD MORNING, DR. COLLINS, HOW ARE YOU?
10:13:34AM CAN YOU PUT UP THE RENDERING, THE FUTURE RENDERING AS A
10:13:40AM VISUAL?
10:13:40AM YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO GET
10:13:46AM VERY SPECIFIC, IF YOU CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
10:13:51AM >> CAN YOU BRING THE SLIDES UP, PLEASE?
10:13:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST THE RENDERING OF WHAT THE JACKSON
10:13:57AM HOUSE SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
10:13:58AM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE
10:14:02AM AS WELL AS THE BOARD.
10:14:02AM I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST YOU ALONE.
10:14:05AM THE ONE PIECE THAT YOU DISCUSSED THIS MORNING WAS THAT YOU
10:14:21AM ARE IN MORE RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ACCARDI BROTHERS
10:14:26AM AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
10:14:29AM NOT THAT ONE.
10:14:30AM THE ACTUAL SLIDE OF WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.
10:14:35AM THERE.
10:14:36AM THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.
10:14:37AM WE KNOW THE ACCARDI BROTHERS OWN THE SURROUNDING PARKING LOT
10:14:46AM PROPERTY AROUND THE PROPERTY.
10:14:47AM FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE IN COMPLETION, FOR VISITORS TO HAVE
10:14:57AM ACCESSIBILITY, THAT BACK PIECE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT
10:15:00AM IS?
10:15:01AM >> THE BACK PIECE ON THIS SECTION THAT LOOKS GLASSED IN,
10:15:05AM THAT IS A SECTION THAT WE COULD DO WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE THAT
10:15:08AM SECTION OF THE HOUSE CAN BE TORN DOWN.
10:15:10AM IT'S NOT A PART OF ANY OF THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
10:15:13AM IT WAS ADDED ON.
10:15:17AM IT IS NOT REQUIRED.
10:15:18AM RATHER THAN TEARING IT DOWN TO HAVE CONTINUITY TO THE HOUSE,
10:15:21AM WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THAT SECTION AND WE HAD TWO OPTIONS
10:15:25AM WHEN WE STARTED TALKING WITH THE ARCHITECT.
10:15:27AM TEAR IT DOWN.
10:15:27AM GIVE US THREE TO FOUR PARALLEL PARKING FACING EACH OTHER OR
10:15:33AM LET'S DO SOMETHING ELSE.
10:15:34AM BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE OVERALL AND WE'RE GOING TO
10:15:38AM LOSE SOME OF THE LOOMS WITH SOME OF THE DESIGN PLANS, WE
10:15:42AM DECIDED THAT WOULD BE THE RECEPTION AREA.
10:15:46AM THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE COME IN, WHERE THE ELEVATOR WOULD BE, SO
10:15:48AM THAT WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND WHAT THEY
10:15:53AM CALL ADL ACCESS.
10:15:56AM THE RAMP YOU SEE IS RUNNING UP TO GO INTO THAT ROOM.
10:15:59AM THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
10:16:00AM NOW, BEHIND THAT IS THE TREE AND THE REFERENCE THAT
10:16:07AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE REFERENCE TO IS IF WE CLOSE -- IF
10:16:10AM THE ALLEY IS VACATED AND, YES, WE DID OPPOSE TO VACATING THE
10:16:15AM ALLEY IN THE PAST ONCE WE VACATE THE ALLEY, WE LOSE THE
10:16:21AM BACK.
10:16:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXACTLY.
10:16:25AM >> TO BE HONEST, HOW DO WE GET BACK THERE?
10:16:27AM THAT IS THE EASEMENT.
10:16:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DR. COLLINS, I'M TRYING TO GET VERY
10:16:33AM SPECIFIC WITH YOU.
10:16:34AM WHAT IS THE HOLDUP WITH THE ACCARDI BROTHERS THAT'S
10:16:36AM PREVENTING THIS FROM HAPPENING?
10:16:39AM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GIVE UP THE VACATION OF THE LAND.
10:16:43AM THAT IS A PROBLEM.
10:16:44AM SO THAT NEGOTIATION, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY ARE ASKING OF YOU?
10:16:47AM WHY CAN'T YOU ALL GET THAT PART DONE BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE
10:16:50AM BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
10:16:52AM I KNOW THAT'S VERY BOLD AND DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE
10:16:55AM SPOT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
10:16:57AM THIS IS THE MISSING PIECE RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE
10:17:00AM MOVING FORWARD.
10:17:02AM IF YOU CAN'T SAY IT, JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY YOU CAN'T SAY IT.
10:17:05AM WHAT IS IT IN THEIR AGREEMENT OR WHATEVER YOU ARE
10:17:08AM NEGOTIATING THAT IS PREVENTING THIS FROM HAPPENING SO WE CAN
10:17:10AM MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
10:17:14AM >> WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THE AGREEMENT NOW.
10:17:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S JUST A PARKING LOT FOR THEM.
10:17:20AM WHAT IS IT -- WHAT IS THE CONCERN FOR THEM?
10:17:23AM CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?
10:17:25AM MAYBE THEY CAN THERE'S, BUT CAN YOU ADDRESS IT FROM A LEGAL
10:17:29AM STANDPOINT?
10:17:30AM >> THEY WERE WILLING TO BE HERE WITH US TODAY, AND I THINK
10:17:32AM MAYBE THE ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BEEN HERE.
10:17:34AM BUT HERE IS THE ISSUE FOR US.
10:17:36AM THE EASEMENT WE ASKED FOR WAS FOR 20 FEET ON THE EAST AND
10:17:40AM WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
10:17:41AM THEN WE WENT DOWN TO 15 FEET, AND THEN WE ARE NOW AT 10 FEET
10:17:45AM EASEMENT ON EACH SIDE.
10:17:47AM WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE EASEMENT, EVEN IF THE EASEMENT
10:17:50AM IS GIVEN TO THE CITY TO MOVE THINGS POSTHASTE, GIVE THE
10:17:54AM JACKSON HOUSE THE EASEMENT.
10:17:57AM WE WILL TAKE THE HIT AND WE WILL GIVE UP THE BACK ACCESS TO
10:18:01AM THE HOUSE.
10:18:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CAN'T GIVE UP THE BACK ACCESS.
10:18:05AM IF YOU GIVE UP THE BACK ACCESS, THEN WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF
10:18:08AM THE CELEBRATION AND THE ENTRYWAY OF WELCOMING PEOPLE AND
10:18:12AM MAKING IT A VIABLE SPACE THAT IS --
10:18:14AM >> WE WILL GAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE BACK, BUT WE WILL
10:18:17AM HAVE WHAT WE NEED ON THE SIDE.
10:18:19AM AND I WILL SAY -- I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, THE STATE SAID,
10:18:24AM WHERE IS YOUR CITY ON THIS HISTORICAL PROJECT?
10:18:26AM IS THE CITY SUPPORTING YOU?
10:18:28AM I'VE HEARD THE SUPPORT FROM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
10:18:32AM I'VE GOTTEN THE SUPPORT FROM THE MAYOR.
10:18:33AM THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM AT THE CITY.
10:18:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ARE THE ACCARDI BROTHERS SUPPORTING YOU?
10:18:38AM >> THE ACCARDI BROTHERS ARE NOW TALKING WITH US AGAIN.
10:18:41AM AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD BUY, WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO
10:18:46AM PAY FOR IT.
10:18:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HAVE YOU OFFERED?
10:18:50AM HAVE YOU OFFERED THEM -- PARKING LOT SPACE?
10:18:57AM >> -- SINCE WE GOT THE PLANS ALMOST DRAWN, WE'VE OFFERED
10:18:59AM EVERYTHING TO EVERYBODY TO TRY TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY.
10:19:04AM WE HAVE NOW DECIDED -- IN DECEMBER OF 2023, I HAD OFFERING.
10:19:08AM I DECIDED TO SAY TO THE BOARD AND ARCHITECT, GIVE US TWO
10:19:11AM PLANS.
10:19:12AM ONE WITH THE EASEMENT AND ONE WITHOUT.
10:19:14AM AND I WILL TELL YOU, THE ONE WITHOUT IS LOSING THE
10:19:17AM HISTORICAL DESIGNATION, BUILDING A BRICK HOUSE, SO THAT WE
10:19:19AM WON'T HAVE A WOODEN HOUSE THAT THEY SAY EXPLODES IN FIRE IN
10:19:24AM 20 MINUTES COMPARED TO BRICK.
10:19:25AM THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A ZERO LOT LINE DOWNTOWN TAMPA THAT IS
10:19:28AM TWO HOURS.
10:19:30AM THE JACKSON HOUSE BEEN THERE SINCE, WELL, I'M GOING TO ROUND
10:19:34AM IT OFF.
10:19:34AM WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1899, 1900.
10:19:38AM THE CODE WENT IN EFFECT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN 1954.
10:19:47AM THE ACCARDIS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2012.
10:19:51AM SOMEBODY HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR SEVEN FEET
10:19:56AM EASEMENT ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT, THE EAST AND WEST, AND EVEN
10:20:01AM IF THERE WAS A WAIVER AS WE CAN GO ALL OVER THE CITY AND SEE
10:20:05AM WAIVERS, THERE ARE SOME HOUSES BEING BUILT NOW THAT ARE NOT
10:20:07AM SEVEN FEET.
10:20:08AM I UNDERSTAND THAT YBOR CITY AND MAYBE SOME OTHER AREAS HAVE
10:20:11AM BEEN GIVEN WAIVERS OF THREE FEET.
10:20:13AM BUT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE THREE FEET THERE.
10:20:15AM AND WE WERE THERE FIRST.
10:20:17AM AND WE'RE NOT BLAMING THE CITY.
10:20:19AM WE'RE NOT BLAMING ACCARDI BECAUSE THEY PURCHASED IT.
10:20:22AM ALL WE'RE SAYING IS PLEASE HELP US GET WHAT WE NEED SO WE
10:20:27AM CAN MOVE FORWARD.
10:20:27AM AND ARE WE WILLING TO MAKE AN ULTIMATE SACRIFICE, GUYS?
10:20:31AM THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR US TO GET THE HOUSE BUILT SO WE
10:20:35AM DON'T HAVE -- IS WE'LL AGREE TO VACATE THE ALLEY AND GIVE US
10:20:42AM THE EASEMENT.
10:20:43AM WE WANT THE EASEMENT TODAY SO WE CAN GET STARTED.
10:20:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT
10:20:49AM PUBLICLY AND GIVING SOME BACKGROUND.
10:20:51AM >> WORKING WITH JASON ACCARDI.
10:20:54AM MET WITH JOHN AND THE ACCARDIS AND THEIR ATTORNEYS AND ALL,
10:20:57AM AND THEY ARE WRITING BACK AND FORTH WITH US, ONE OF OUR
10:21:00AM ATTORNEYS WORKING WITH US.
10:21:02AM RIGHT NOW, I'M TALKING WITH JASON.
10:21:03AM JASON LITERALLY CALLING ME EVERY WEEK.
10:21:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SAYING WHAT?
10:21:09AM >> WHERE ARE WE?
10:21:10AM ARE YOU READY TO SIGN THIS --
10:21:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SIGN WHAT?
10:21:13AM >> SIGN THE AGREEMENT.
10:21:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT, NONDISCLOSURE?
10:21:19AM >> -- WE CAN'T SHARE IT WITH YOU OR ANYONE ELSE.
10:21:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY?
10:21:24AM >> YOU HAVE TO ASK THE ACCARDIS.
10:21:26AM THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.
10:21:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY WANT YOU TO SIGN A NONDISCLOSURE
10:21:31AM AGREEMENT THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT IS A
10:21:33AM NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY CHALLENGING FOR
10:21:37AM THIS BOARD --
10:21:39AM >> AND IT'S CHALLENGING FOR MY BOARD.
10:21:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT NEEDS TO BE KNOWN.
10:21:46AM IT'S JUST TIME TO PLAY HARD BALL A LITTLE BIT.
10:21:49AM I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
10:21:51AM I DON'T WANT TO DANCE AROUND IT.
10:21:53AM YOUR PRESENTATION WAS GREAT, BUT THE MEAT OF MOVING FORWARD
10:21:57AM IS THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE THAT HAS TO BE RESOLVED.
10:22:00AM I KNOW THAT IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND REALLY, IT'S ABOUT A
10:22:04AM LOT OF GOODWILL WILL HAVE TO TAKE PLACE.
10:22:09AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
10:22:13AM LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS -- THE CRAZY PART FOR ME AND THE
10:22:20AM THING I STRUGGLE WITH AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IS THAT THIS IS
10:22:24AM THE LAND WHERE THEY PERMITTED THE ENSLAVED TO LIVE AFTER
10:22:30AM EMANCIPATION.
10:22:32AM SO THE FEW REMAINING STRUCTURES AS A CITY.
10:22:36AM NOT A BLACK THING.
10:22:38AM IT IS A CITY THING.
10:22:38AM THE FEW REMAINING STRUCTURES, WHETHER PRIVATE OR PUBLIC, IT
10:22:41AM DOESN'T MATTER, EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO PRESERVE
10:22:45AM HISTORICAL BLACK SPACES IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE FIGHT FOR
10:22:48AM OTHER THINGS AND WE GIVE AWAY A LOT OF BLACK SPACES.
10:22:51AM THIS IS REALLY INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT THIS PROJECT REALLY IS
10:22:56AM BEING HELD UP BY SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT.
10:22:59AM THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME.
10:23:01AM I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.
10:23:06AM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME, CHAIR.
10:23:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND CARLSON.
10:23:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:23:12AM WE OBVIOUSLY APPRECIATE -- I KNOW I DO -- COUNCILWOMAN
10:23:17AM HENDERSON'S PERSPECTIVE TALKING ABOUT THE SYMBOLIC AND REAL
10:23:24AM LIVING HISTORY AND HOW WE HAVE SEEN SO MANY PARTS OF BLACK
10:23:27AM HISTORY ATTACKED LOCALLY AND STATEWIDE AND NATIONALLY, AND
10:23:31AM WE LIVE IN A TIME WHERE THINGS LIKE THAT AREN'T JUST BEING
10:23:35AM UNDERMINED; THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED.
10:23:38AM SO HAVING THIS TODAY IN FEBRUARY, BLACK HISTORY MONTH, BUT
10:23:42AM IN THE YEAR 2025 IS, I THINK, A REAL BIG THING.
10:23:48AM IN OUR CITY OF TAMPA, WE HAVE TO PROMOTE TAMPA HISTORY, OUR
10:23:52AM BLACK HISTORY, NAMES LIKE GARLAND STUART.
10:23:55AM ARTHENIA JUNIOR, FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ, NAMES WE DON'T TALK A
10:24:00AM LOT ABOUT.
10:24:02AM ROBERT JOHNSON.
10:24:04AM CHAMBERS.
10:24:04AM THAT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHAT THE JACKSON HOUSE REALLY,
10:24:07AM REALLY MEANS, OBVIOUSLY.
10:24:09AM GOD WILLING -- I DO MEAN GOD WILLING, BECAUSE I THINK THIS
10:24:12AM IS ON THE SIDE OF DECENCY.
10:24:15AM WE CAN HAVE BIG MOVEMENT ON THIS WHERE WE CAN ERECT THIS AND
10:24:18AM HAVE IT IN THE PROPER SPACE WITH -- COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN
10:24:24AM MYERS ALSO WORKING ON AN AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND ARTS
10:24:27AM MUSEUM.
10:24:28AM THESE TWO THINGS, ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, CAN REALLY
10:24:32AM PROVIDE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
10:24:34AM SUCH A GREAT STATEMENT ON WHERE WE STAND ON THAT MORAL
10:24:39AM ISSUE, THE HISTORY THAT IS PAINFUL ACUTE AND REPRESENTS
10:24:46AM WOUNDS FOR TOO MANY AMERICANS THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE TODAY
10:24:49AM INJUSTICE, INDIGNITY FOR PEOPLE TODAY ARE THINGS THAT WE'LL
10:24:52AM TALK ABOUT AND INCORPORATE IN OUR POLICIES.
10:24:54AM I SAY THAT TO SAY, DOCTOR, THAT ALL SEVEN OF US 100% SUPPORT
10:24:59AM THIS.
10:25:00AM I KNOW WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS SET ASIDE I BELIEVE IT IS
10:25:02AM IN THE CRA FOR THIS.
10:25:04AM AND I THINK CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD SAY THAT ANY OTHER
10:25:08AM AMOUNT WE CAN GIVE TO HELP OUT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS
10:25:11AM PRESERVED, WE'LL DO IT.
10:25:12AM BECAUSE EVERY TIME I KNOW ALL SEVEN OF US PASS BY THAT
10:25:17AM STRUCTURE, IT'S PRETTY -- THE FACT THAT THAT BUILDING IS
10:25:22AM STILL UP, WE HAVE TO WRITE POPE FRANCIS AND REPORT A
10:25:27AM MIRACLE.
10:25:28AM I MEAN THAT.
10:25:29AM MA'AM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
10:25:31AM AS HAS BEEN SAID, WE STAND BY YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THIS.
10:25:35AM THANK YOU.
10:25:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:25:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THIS IS -- OUR COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN
10:25:44AM HENDERSON TALKED ABOUT SAVING BLACK SPACES, THIS IS
10:25:47AM IMPORTANT, AS I SAID EARLIER, IT IS AN IMPORTANT BLACK SPACE
10:25:50AM WE NEED TO PROTECT.
10:25:51AM 2013, CITY COUNCIL SAVED THIS FROM BEING TORN DOWN.
10:25:55AM WE SHOWED THE LETTER A FEW MINUTES AGO.
10:25:58AM THE SAME YEAR, AT THE SAME TIME I GOT THE LETTER FROM
10:26:02AM WILLIE, I ALSO PROMISED HIM THAT I WOULD WORK TO HELP,
10:26:08AM SIMILAR TO THE PROMISE DR. COLLINS GAVE.
10:26:10AM DR. COLLINS AND MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS KNEW HIM BETTER
10:26:13AM THAN I DID.
10:26:13AM WE DID A LOT OF THINGS OVER THE YEARS TO TRY TO SAVE IT.
10:26:16AM I WAS PART OF AN EFFORT TO TRY TO RESTORE IT BEFORE THE
10:26:20AM FOUNDATION, AND I PASSED OUT THE LETTERS LAST TIME, BUT THE
10:26:24AM BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION ALSO STOPPED THAT.
10:26:26AM THE REASON WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG, ONE, WE HAD AN
10:26:30AM ADMINISTRATION THAT WANTED TO TEAR IT DOWN.
10:26:32AM THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON
10:26:35AM THIS.
10:26:36AM THIS COUNCIL OR THE PREVIOUS ONE HAVE SPENT FIVE YEARS I
10:26:40AM THINK WORKING ON THIS.
10:26:41AM IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR US BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN PUSHING IT AND
10:26:44AM TRYING TO GET TO A CONCLUSION.
10:26:46AM I THINK WE'RE DOWN TO A NEGOTIATION, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN
10:26:51AM KEEP EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE AFTER THIS CONVERSATION.
10:26:53AM THE CONVERSATION I'VE HAD OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS ARE REALLY
10:26:57AM GOOD.
10:26:57AM JASON ACCARDI IS ON A CRUISE SHIP RIGHT NOW IN THE
10:27:02AM CARIBBEAN.
10:27:02AM I TALKED TO HIM ON THE PHONE YESTERDAY AS HE WAS ABOUT TO
10:27:05AM GET ON, BUT HE WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
10:27:06AM HE SENT STEVE MICHELINI, WHO MAYBE WE'LL ASK TO SAY
10:27:09AM SOMETHING IN A MINUTE.
10:27:10AM I ALSO TALKED TO HIS ATTORNEY YESTERDAY.
10:27:13AM WHAT THEY SAID, DR. COLLINS APPARENTLY CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE
10:27:17AM DOCUMENT.
10:27:18AM MAYBE STEVE BROUGHT A COPY OF IT.
10:27:19AM WHAT JASON SAID TO ME AND HIS ATTORNEY IS SIMPLY SAYS THEY
10:27:24AM WANT THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION TO AGREE IN ADVANCE THAT
10:27:27AM THEY'LL SUPPORT THE VACATION OF THE ALLEY.
10:27:29AM THAT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THEM.
10:27:30AM THE CITY AND CRA HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
10:27:33AM BUT I THINK THAT WHEN JASON COMES BACK, IF WE CAN GET
10:27:38AM EVERYBODY TO TALK TOGETHER, MAYBE WE'LL TRY AGAIN.
10:27:41AM BY THE WAY, ALIS DRUMGO SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS BEFORE HE
10:27:44AM LEFT TRYING TO NEGOTIATE THIS.
10:27:46AM HE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH ALL THE OFFICIALS.
10:27:49AM I TALKED TO ABBYE ABOUT SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS SHE'S HAD.
10:27:51AM MORRIS HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN IT.
10:27:54AM IT'S NOT A LACK OF EFFORT OF EVERYBODY TRYING TO COME
10:27:56AM TOGETHER, BUT WHAT WE NEED AT THIS POINT IS FOR EVERYBODY TO
10:27:59AM COME TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
10:28:02AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT WE WANT.
10:28:10AM THINK ABOUT THE ACCARDI'S POSITION.
10:28:12AM THEY HAVE A LOT OF LAND.
10:28:15AM ONE OF THE CRITICISMS IS THEY DON'T DEVELOP IT.
10:28:17AM THEY CAN SIT ON THE LAND FOREVER IF THEY WANT.
10:28:19AM THEIR BUSINESS IS PARKING.
10:28:20AM THEY CAN WAIT OUT THIS CITY COUNCIL, WAIT OUT THIS
10:28:22AM ADMINISTRATION, WAIT OUT THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION.
10:28:24AM AND THE JACKSON HOUSE WOULD FALL DOWN.
10:28:27AM THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH US TO SAVE IT BECAUSE
10:28:32AM THEY ARE NEGOTIATING SOMETHING.
10:28:34AM NOT NEGOTIATING EVERYTHING WE WANT, BUT NEGOTIATING
10:28:36AM SOMETHING.
10:28:37AM IF WE CAN GET THAT AS THE STARTER, AT LEAST WE CAN SAVE IT
10:28:41AM BECAUSE THE NEXT STORM WILL TEAR IT DOWN.
10:28:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY DO THEY NEED A VACATION OF THE ALLEY?
10:28:50AM I'M SORRY.
10:28:51AM I'M OUT OF ORDER.
10:28:52AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:28:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S UP TO THEM, AND, ALSO, MARTY WILL
10:28:54AM PROBABLY CUT US OFF BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SIT IN A
10:28:57AM QUASI-JUDICIAL DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT THAT, AND WE'LL HAVE
10:28:59AM TO DISCUSS THAT SEPARATELY.
10:29:00AM TYPICALLY, WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER OWNS ALL THE PROPERTY
10:29:00AM AROUND THE ALLEY, WE GIVE THE VACATION ANYWAYS.
10:29:09AM THE DEAL WAS WE'RE NOT TRADING THE ALLEY FOR THIS AREA.
10:29:13AM WE TRADED THAT CUTOUT AND THE MONEY WE GAVE TO D.O.T. FOR
10:29:18AM IT.
10:29:19AM THE ALLEY VACATION, THOUGH, IS A REQUIREMENT OF THEIR FINAL
10:29:22AM APPROVAL TO ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:29:25AM BUT I THINK ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:29:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MICHELINI SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC
10:29:32AM COMMENT.
10:29:32AM THE PRESENTATION WAS FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION.
10:29:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING I SHOULD SAY, WHAT IS YOUR
10:29:39AM NAME, RONNIE, COULD YOU JUST TELL US YOUR PROFESSIONAL
10:29:42AM CREDENTIALS TOO?
10:29:43AM I THINK COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WAS ASKING A LOT OF GOOD
10:29:46AM QUESTIONS.
10:29:47AM I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU SAID YOUR NAME.
10:29:48AM ALSO SAY YOUR PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIALS REAL FAST.
10:29:52AM >> I'M A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
10:29:53AM LICENSED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SINCE 1989.
10:29:57AM I'VE DONE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT IN
10:30:02AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:30:06AM >> LET ME ADD SOMETHING BECAUSE HE IS SO NICE.
10:30:09AM RONNIE, WHEN WE LOOKED FOR A CONTRACTOR AND BID IT TO GET
10:30:14AM SOMEONE TO STABILIZE THE HOUSE, HE SURFACED TO THE TOP.
10:30:18AM WE SELECTED HIM.
10:30:19AM HE STABILIZED THE HOUSE.
10:30:21AM HIS EXCITEMENT IN THE STABILIZATION WAS THE HISTORY THAT HE
10:30:24AM SAW IN THE HOUSE.
10:30:25AM HE TOLD US THINGS WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW.
10:30:27AM A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER, I WENT TO -- SAID, YOU'RE NOT
10:30:32AM WORKING NOW.
10:30:33AM YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON THE HOUSE, WOULD YOU COME AND
10:30:35AM BE ON OUR BOARD.
10:30:37AM HE SAID YES.
10:30:38AM HE IS THAT VOICE THAT I AGREED THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE
10:30:41AM ARE FORTUNATE BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO I HAVE HIM EVERY MONTH, I
10:30:44AM CAN CALL HIM ANYTIME OF THE DAY OR NIGHT.
10:30:47AM THIS IS COMING UP, WHAT DO WE DO NEXT, MR. WILLIAMS?
10:30:52AM AND I'M ASKING HIM.
10:30:53AM HE'S IN ESSENCE HIS OWN FORM OF A CONTRACT MANAGER FOR US ON
10:30:57AM THE BOARD.
10:30:58AM SO WE ARE NOT -- WE THINK THE PROJECT NEEDED OVERALL.
10:31:03AM THAT'S WHY I AGREE WITH YOU.
10:31:04AM WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO MR. RONNIE.
10:31:07AM WE HAVE ACCESS TO ATTORNEY ON OUR BOARD.
10:31:10AM WE HAVE CPAs ON OUR BOARD WHO SAY, NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO
10:31:13AM DO THAT, YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
10:31:15AM YES, WE ARE, AND IF I CAN SAY NOTHING ELSE, THANK YOU, MR.
10:31:19AM RONNIE, AND DR. SCOTT HERE, WHO CAME ON WITH US A LITTLE
10:31:22AM LESS THAN A YEAR AGO AND JUST WORKED HERSELF TO NO END.
10:31:27AM SHE'S JUST BEEN VOTED IN RECENTLY AS VICE-CHAIR OF THE
10:31:30AM BOARD.
10:31:30AM BUT HEAR THIS.
10:31:31AM THAT HOUSE SITS AT 851 ZACK STREET TODAY.
10:31:35AM IT WAS NOT THE ADDRESS A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN MR. ROBINSON,
10:31:42AM HAD TO SIGN SOMETHING, I THINK 839 ZACK.
10:31:46AM HOUSE NEVER MOVED.
10:31:47AM ADDRESS CHANGED.
10:31:48AM THE HOUSE SITS AT 851.
10:31:50AM I PROMISE YOU THAT, ANOTHER STORM WILL NOT COME.
10:31:55AM I'M TALKING WITH JASON NOW AGAIN, BECAUSE I MET WITH HIM
10:31:58AM THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE SAT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND MET AND
10:32:01AM TALKED TOGETHER.
10:32:02AM JASON ASKED TO SPEAK WITH US THANKSGIVING AND WE'RE TALKING
10:32:06AM TOGETHER AGAIN.
10:32:07AM I NEED JASON TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS EASEMENT IS
10:32:10AM FOR US TO MOVE.
10:32:10AM BUT IF WE DON'T GET IT, FOLKS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WE'RE
10:32:15AM GOING TO HAVE TO LOSE MONEY THAT WE HAVE, TRY TO RAISE SOME
10:32:18AM MORE, BUT IT WILL BE CHEAPER TO BUILD A BRICK HOUSE AND PUT
10:32:21AM A FACADE ON THE OUTSIDE.
10:32:22AM AND WE WILL SEE THE JACKSON HOUSE AGAIN IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA
10:32:26AM THAN TO BUILD THAT HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
10:32:29AM AND MY HEART DESIRE IF WE DON'T NEED TO GO TO THAT.
10:32:32AM BUT I PROMISE YOU, I PROMISE YOU, IF THE GOOD LORD -- WE'RE
10:32:40AM MOVING FORWARD.
10:32:41AM WE CAN'T AFFORD TO WAIT.
10:32:42AM I AM SO GRATEFUL TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON THAT MET WITH US.
10:32:48AM I'M GRATEFUL TO -- I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:32:51AM SINGLING HIM OUT NOW, SUNSHINE, I CAN DO ONE AT A TIME,
10:32:55AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAND
10:32:58AM AND TALK WITH UNOFFICIALLY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AT AN EVENT
10:33:05AM AND TALK.
10:33:06AM EACH OF THEM ALL SAID THE SAME THING.
10:33:10AM YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
10:33:14AM WE NEED TO SEE THE HOUSE MOVE.
10:33:16AM WHAT IS THE HOLDUP?
10:33:16AM WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP?
10:33:18AM I HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN THE OTHERS OF YOU THAT YOU HAVE THE
10:33:20AM SAME COMMITMENT.
10:33:22AM I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMMITTED TO IT.
10:33:24AM I CAN TELL YOU OUR BOARD IS AT 200 PERCENT.
10:33:27AM DOESN'T BOTHER ME TO STAY UP 5:00 AND GET UP 8 THE NEXT
10:33:31AM MORNING TO BE DOWN HERE.
10:33:32AM WHY YOU ALWAYS LATE?
10:33:33AM BECAUSE I FORGET TO GO TO BED.
10:33:36AM I CAN PROMISE YOU, IT'S NOT MOUNT PLEASANT, NOT FAMU, IT'S
10:33:43AM NOT MY FAMILY, IT'S THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:33:46AM THEY ASK ME WHAT I MAKE.
10:33:48AM I MAKE ONE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
10:33:51AM I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TEN YEARS, AIN'T NOBODY PAID ME
10:33:54AM YET.
10:33:54AM I DO WANT TO SAY I GOT INTO THIS BECAUSE OF CHLOE CONEY.
10:34:02AM THE SAME TIME HE SAID WHAT THE MAYOR BUCKHORN SAID, I CALLED
10:34:06AM MAYOR BUCKHORN.
10:34:07AM I WENT AND TALKED TO HIM.
10:34:08AM I SAID WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS ON AT NAACP.
10:34:12AM DON'T TEAR THAT HOUSE DOWN.
10:34:14AM EVERYBODY WAS ON HERE.
10:34:16AM THEN I GET A CALL FROM CHLOE CONEY, CC, AND SHEA GOING TO
10:34:20AM TELL ME THAT KATHY CASTOR WANT ME TO DO SOMETHING FOR HER.
10:34:23AM AND SHE WANT TO TALK TO ME.
10:34:25AM I HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP TALKING WITH CONGRESS WOMAN
10:34:29AM CASTOR.
10:34:29AM WHAT IT IS.
10:34:31AM SHE SAY SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:34:34AM IT IS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON ME TO DO SOMETHING THAT I GET
10:34:37AM PAID A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR AND MY PAYMENT WILL BE
10:34:41AM WHEN WE SEE THE HOUSE UP.
10:34:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DR. COLLINS, I HAVE COMPLETE AND TOTAL
10:34:45AM FAITH IN YOUR LEADERSHIP.
10:34:47AM I KNOW YOU'LL GET THIS DONE.
10:34:48AM I HAVE NO DOUBT YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND ALL THE PARTNERS
10:34:50AM INVOLVED.
10:34:51AM I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT SOONER THAN LATER.
10:34:54AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:54AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:34:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I JUST WANTED TO SAY REFERENCE THE ALLEY
10:34:59AM VACATION, I APPRECIATE THE FACT WHAT YOU BROUGHT FORTH IS
10:35:02AM YOUR CREATIVE THINKING THAT YOU'LL GET IT DONE REGARDLESS
10:35:05AM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
10:35:06AM I ALSO DON'T LIKE THE FEELING THAT THERE'S EXTORTION GOING
10:35:10AM ON REFERENCE TRYING TO GET MORE THAN A PRIVATE ENTITY
10:35:15AM DESERVES, TO BE ABLE TO GET YOU GUYS THE ACCESS THAT YOU
10:35:18AM NEED.
10:35:21AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I AGREE ON, I DON'T NECESSARILY
10:35:24AM AGREE THAT WE'RE GOING TO VACATE EVERY ALLEY.
10:35:28AM WE FREQUENTLY TURN DOWN ALLEY VACATIONS.
10:35:37AM WE ALREADY DID THE F.D.O.T. STUFF.
10:35:39AM I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN QUITE A BIT ON THIS MOVEMENT.
10:35:43AM I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION ON THAT.
10:35:45AM YOU'RE RIGHT SET IN YOUR HEAD ABOUT WHICH WAY TO GO.
10:35:50AM STAY STRONG AND KEEP PUSHING FORWARD.
10:35:52AM THANK YOU.
10:35:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:35:54AM >> THANK YOU.
10:35:54AM THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
10:35:57AM HAVE A HAPPY CONTINUOUS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
10:35:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:36:01AM NOW IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:36:03AM I HAVE A FEW REGISTERED SPEAKERS AND THEN I'LL GO TO THE
10:36:05AM SPEAKERS IN THE ROOM.
10:36:06AM THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH FOLLOWED BY LARRY
10:36:09AM PREMAK AND AILEEN HENDERSON.
10:36:11AM GOOD MORNING, MR. RANDOLPH.
10:36:16AM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:36:18AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
10:36:23AM AN ENGAGED COMMUNITY IS AN EMPOWERED COMMUNITY.
10:36:26AM ON FEBRUARY THE 24th, DURING A ZOOM MEETING, WE WILL HAVE
10:36:32AM OUR NEXT ENGAGEMENT FOR EMPOWERMENT MEETING.
10:36:35AM TODAY WE HAD OVER 60 RESIDENTS TO SIGN UP FOR THIS MEETING
10:36:40AM IN ADDITION TO NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND PEOPLE FROM AROUND
10:36:43AM THE COUNTRY.
10:36:44AM I WANT TO EXTEND AN OPEN INVITATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AS
10:36:48AM WELL AS IN PARTICULAR AND AGAIN TO THE CAC, BOTH THE MANAGER
10:36:54AM FOR WEST TAMPA AS WELL AS THE MANAGER FOR THE WHOLE CAC.
10:36:59AM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE SILENT MAJORITY OF
10:37:03AM RESIDENTS THAT DO NOT ATTEND MEETINGS.
10:37:06AM I DO WANT TO ALSO THANK JOE ROBINSON WHO WILL BE ATTENDING
10:37:12AM AS WELL AS THE OTHER CAC MEMBERS TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY
10:37:15AM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
10:37:16AM LAST WEEK, WE GAVE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR ECONOMIC INITIATIVE
10:37:20AM THAT FOCUSED ON A.I.
10:37:22AM THIS WEEK, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY HELP
10:37:28AM INITIATIVE.
10:37:29AM HEAVILY BLACK AND HEAVILY UNHEALTHY WHEN IT COMES TO
10:37:33AM DIABETES, BLOOD PRESSURE AND OTHER IS A VERY UNHEALTHY
10:37:39AM COMMUNITY.
10:37:39AM MOST OF THESE ILLNESSES CAN BE CONTROLLABLE OR PREVENTED
10:37:46AM BASED -- BUT FOR THE HEALTH.
10:37:51AM IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
10:37:55AM JUST AS IMPORTANT IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH.
10:37:58AM FOCUS ON DATA DRIVEN AND EVIDENCE-BASED APPROACH TO REDUCING
10:38:03AM VIOLENCE BASED ON LESSONS LEARNED FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.
10:38:08AM ECONOMIC APPROACH TO REDUCING CRIME.
10:38:13AM FINALLY, THE WEST TAMPA VIRTUAL COMMUNITY HUB THAT WILL
10:38:17AM CONNECT BUSINESSES AND LOCAL RESIDENTS TO DO THINGS.
10:38:20AM NATIONAL DISCUSSION THAT WILL BRING WEST TAMPA FRONT AND
10:38:26AM CENTER.
10:38:26AM IT IS NOT TOO LATE.
10:38:28AM PLEASE CONNECT WITH US AT THE WEST TAMPA CDC @GMAIL.COM.
10:38:36AM IMPORTANT DISCUSSION, WEST TAMPA CULTURAL CENTER AND RETURN
10:38:41AM OF THE YELLOW JACKET.
10:38:44AM SHOUT-OUT TO ROBIN LOCKETT WHO REALLY BROUGHT THIS ISSUE TO
10:38:47AM THE COUNTRY.
10:38:52AM AN ENGAGED COMMUNITY IS EMPOWERED COMMUNITY.
10:38:55AM SHOUT-OUT TO THE CDC OF TAMPA, BEST PRACTICE AND I TALK
10:38:58AM ABOUT THEM THROUGHOUT THE NATION WHEN I TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY
10:39:02AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:39:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:04AM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:39:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RANDOLPH.
10:39:08AM LARRY PREMAK AND AILEEN HENDERSON.
10:39:11AM AILEEN IS NOT ON.
10:39:13AM MR. PREMAK, ARE YOU ON?
10:39:19AM >> MY NAME IS LARRY PREMAK.
10:39:21AM PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON HARBOUR
10:39:23AM ISLAND.
10:39:24AM I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MR. SHELBY ON HIS
10:39:28AM BIRTHDAY.
10:39:29AM THE MAN NEVER AGES.
10:39:31AM HE MUST BE DRINKING THE SAME FOUNTAIN THAT COUNCILMAN
10:39:34AM MIRANDA DRINKS OUT OF.
10:39:36AM I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DOESN'T AGE GIVEN HIS JOB.
10:39:40AM IN ANY EVENT, I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE TWO PROPOSED
10:39:44AM TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:39:46AM WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT HAVE LINE ITEM
10:39:50AM VETO OVER THE LIGHTS.
10:39:53AM HOWEVER, YOU CAN ASK THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT A
10:39:57AM MORE COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC STUDY THAN THE ONE DURING COVID
10:40:01AM FIVE YEARS AGO.
10:40:02AM OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BILL OLIVER, WILL PRESENT LATER ON
10:40:07AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, ALTERNATIVES WHICH SHOULD BE STUDIED.
10:40:10AM IN FACT, THE MAYOR HAS ADMITTED IN WRITING TO OUR RESIDENTS
10:40:13AM THE LIGHTS MAY NOT WORK.
10:40:14AM AS A RULE, ISN'T IT BETTER TO MEASURE TWICE AND CUT ONCE?
10:40:19AM IN THIS CASE, THE STUDY DONE BY STANTEC IS INCOMPLETE AND
10:40:23AM DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL OPTIONS.
10:40:25AM IN FACT, IF THESE LIGHTS ARE INSTALLED AS PRESENTED, IT MAY
10:40:30AM CAUSE INJURIES OR EVEN WORSE.
10:40:34AM WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.
10:40:38AM HOWEVER, IF WE PRESENT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN
10:40:42AM FRONT OF YOU AND THE MAYOR, I THINK IT DESERVES A SECOND
10:40:45AM LOOK.
10:40:46AM I'D REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT HARBOUR ISLAND WANTS WHAT IS
10:40:50AM BEST FOR THE CITY AND HARBOUR ISLAND.
10:40:52AM WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN THE PAST.
10:40:55AM THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE FORCE MAIN PROJECT.
10:40:58AM THE CITY INITIALLY PROPOSED A REPLACEMENT WHICH WOULD HAVE
10:41:00AM CUT OUR COMMUNITY IN HALF.
10:41:02AM WE ARGUED THROUGH A THREE PERSON TASK FORCE WITH AN ENGINEER
10:41:06AM THAT PERHAPS A BETTER ROUTE MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL
10:41:08AM PARTIES.
10:41:09AM I WAS PART OF THAT TASK FORCE.
10:41:12AM WE WORKED WITH BRAD BAIRD AND ERIC WEISS FOR AN UNDERWATER
10:41:16AM SOLUTION WHICH THE CITY NOW BRAGS ABOUT IN TRADE MAGAZINE,
10:41:19AM THE SECOND LARGEST IN THE NATION.
10:41:21AM WE HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE RANK AND FILE IN THE
10:41:24AM CITY, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO PRY OPEN SOME POLITICIANS'
10:41:29AM EYES OPEN TO MAKE OUR POINT.
10:41:30AM I ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE MEDIANS ON KNIGHTS RUN AND ALSO
10:41:34AM BENEFICIAL AS WELL AS THE BRIDGE, WE FINANCED ALL THAT.
10:41:37AM WE PAY FOR THE IRRIGATION.
10:41:40AM WE'RE NOT HERE WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, HAT IN HAND LOOKING FOR
10:41:43AM HANDOUTS.
10:41:44AM WE JUST WANT THE PROPER THING TO BE DONE AND STUDIED FOR OUR
10:41:48AM ISLAND.
10:41:48AM SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE.
10:41:53AM WE'D ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE A MOTION TO ASK THE
10:41:55AM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT ANOTHER STUDY.
10:41:58AM IF THEY REFUSE, YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T BE SUED INDIVIDUALLY
10:42:02AM BECAUSE THEY IGNORE YOU.
10:42:03AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:42:05AM THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS AT THE BASE OF KNIGHTS
10:42:09AM RUN AND HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD, THE LIGHTS, THE CITY
10:42:13AM LIGHTS HAVE BEEN OUT SINCE SEPTEMBER 26 AND NOBODY SEEMS TO
10:42:19AM KNOW WHY.
10:42:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:42:21AM OUR IN-HOUSE SPEAKERS ARE GOING TO BE BILL OLIVER, JOHN
10:42:27AM SOLAR, AND STEPHEN MICHELINI.
10:42:30AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:42:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:42:32AM MY NAME IS BILL OLIVER.
10:42:34AM I'M A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND FORMER CITY OF
10:42:36AM TAMPA TRAFFIC DIVISION EMPLOYEE.
10:42:38AM I SHOULD SAY DITTO TO WHAT LARRY PREMAK JUST SAID.
10:42:46AM THE CITY STUDY DOES NOT CLEARLY STATE THE PROBLEM THAT'S IN
10:42:50AM NEED OF A CURE OTHER THAN TO SAY THERE'S HIGH PEDESTRIAN
10:42:52AM ACTIVITY.
10:42:53AM THE CRASH REVIEW IN THAT REPORT IDENTIFIES ONE CRASH
10:42:56AM INVOLVING A PEDESTRIAN UP AT THE NORTH END OF THE STUDY
10:43:00AM SEGMENT AND THREE CRASHES INVOLVING BICYCLES DOWN AT THE
10:43:03AM SOUTH END AT KNIGHTS RUN.
10:43:05AM THE SOLUTIONS PROPOSED, THOUGH, ARE MOSTLY IN THE MIDSECTION
10:43:11AM OF THE SEGMENT.
10:43:12AM SO IN MY MIND, THE LACK OF CLEAR STATEMENT OR EVIDENCE OF
10:43:15AM ANY PEDESTRIAN VEHICULAR CONFLICT ISSUES AT THE SOLUTION
10:43:20AM LOCATIONS DETRACTS FROM ANY URGENCY TO IMPLEMENT A CURE.
10:43:25AM AS I MENTIONED IN MY COMMENTS TO YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO,
10:43:27AM THE FLORIDA D.O.T. POLICY IS TO CONSIDER ROUNDABOUTS AND
10:43:31AM OTHER POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS BEFORE INSTALLING TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
10:43:36AM ALSO, THE FEDERAL MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES
10:43:41AM CLEARLY INDICATES ONCE WARRANTS ARE MET, AN ENGINEERING
10:43:44AM STUDY SHOULD BE UNDERTAKEN TO IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVES AND
10:43:48AM CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS BEFORE SIGNALS ARE INSTALLED.
10:43:51AM THE CITY WOULD BE ACTING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FEDERAL AND
10:43:57AM STATE GUIDANCE TO INVEST SOME TIME INTO AND REQUEST A MORE
10:44:01AM COMPREHENSIVE, LONGER TERM SOLUTION APPROACH.
10:44:03AM HARBOUR ISLAND IS SEEKING A MORE THOROUGH CONSIDERATION OF
10:44:07AM HOW TO BEST SEPARATE VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS.
10:44:14AM THE STUDY SHOULD MAYBE LOOK TO HIRING DISNEY-STYLE
10:44:17AM IMAGINEERS WHO ARE MASTERS AT MANAGING PEDESTRIAN FLOWS TO
10:44:22AM LOOK AT MORE CREATIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS,
10:44:26AM INCLUDING DEVELOPING A SECOND-LEVEL CONCEPT TO PEDESTRIAN
10:44:29AM CIRCULATION.
10:44:30AM SUCH SYSTEMS DO WORK WELL WHEN WELL DESIGNED.
10:44:37AM THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE CONNECTING THE BILL POE PARKING GARAGE
10:44:41AM TO THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER WAS A VERY EFFECTIVE SOLUTION
10:44:44AM AND GOOD EXAMPLE.
10:44:45AM THERE IS AN EXISTING BRIDGE CONNECTING THE CONVENTION CENTER
10:44:49AM ACROSS FRANKLIN STREET TO THE EMBASSY SUITES HOTEL AND A
10:44:54AM STAIRWELL THAT ALLOWS ACCESS DOWN TO FRANKLIN STREET, BUT
10:44:57AM THAT CONNECTION IS NOT VISIBLE, NOR IS IT PUBLICIZED AT ALL.
10:45:02AM IT DOES NOT EFFECTIVELY SERVE THE PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS THAT
10:45:04AM ARE THERE.
10:45:05AM SO HARBOUR ISLAND HAS A PROPERTY TAX BASIS UPWARDS OF
10:45:09AM $1.3 BILLION, THE CONVENTION CENTER AND AMALIE ARENA BRING
10:45:14AM IN SUBSTANTIAL TOURIST TAXES IT MAKES SENSE TO THINK IN
10:45:17AM TERMS OF CONTINUING TO INVEST IN THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE
10:45:21AM AROUND THESE WORLD-CLASS FACILITIES.
10:45:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:45:25AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN SOLAR.
10:45:28AM STEPHEN MICHELINI.
10:45:30AM MENTESNOT.
10:45:30AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:45:40AM >> JOHN SOLAR, WITH INSTRUMENTS FOR LIFE, A LOCAL NONPROFIT
10:45:43AM THAT SERVES THE YOUTH OF TAMPA BAY.
10:45:46AM SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:45:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BECAUSE OF THE MICROPHONE --
10:45:50AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:45:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, YEAH.
10:45:52AM >> OKAY.
10:45:53AM COOL.
10:45:53AM SO LAST YEAR, WE STARTED A NEW INITIATIVE CALLED CENTRAL AVE
10:45:59AM LIVE.
10:46:00AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON ALLOWED US TO PROMOTE THERE AND HAD
10:46:03AM FLYERS THERE.
10:46:04AM THIS EVENT INVITED COMMISSIONER MYERS, MAYOR CASTOR AND
10:46:08AM OTHERS, MR. FRED HEARNS.
10:46:10AM WE WERE TEACHING ALL OF OUR HISTORY ABOUT CENTRAL AVE LIVE.
10:46:14AM DURING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS, WE HELPED SPREAD THE WORD,
10:46:17AM LOCAL MUSICIANS AND SOME STUDENTS PERFORM BECAUSE THEY
10:46:20AM LEARNED ABOUT THE HISTORY AND PRESERVING THE HISTORY.
10:46:23AM WHEN WE GET TO THIS CURRICULUM AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE
10:46:26AM JACKSON HOUSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE JACKSON
10:46:28AM HOUSE FOR THAT HISTORY, HOW DO WE TELL THE KIDS THAT?
10:46:31AM THAT'S MY TOUGH JOB.
10:46:34AM EARLIER I HEARD A QUOTE, WHEN WE ALL DO BETTER, WE ALL DO
10:46:37AM BETTER, RIGHT?
10:46:38AM THAT FEELS LIKE THE MISSION RIGHT HERE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL
10:46:40AM TRYING TO COME TOGETHER.
10:46:41AM ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP MANIFEST IT, I AM ABOUT.
10:46:45AM I'LL TRY TO KEEP GIVING OUR YOUTH THE KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE THEY
10:46:48AM ARE THE ONES CHANGING IT.
10:46:49AM BUT THE DIFFICULT CONVERSATION FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY OUR
10:46:51AM BLACK YOUTH, THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.
10:46:53AM THESE QUESTIONS THAT THEY ASK ABOUT, IT'S INCREDIBLE.
10:46:56AM I WOULD INVITE ANY ONE OF YOU ALL TO ANY OF THEIR SHOWCASES
10:46:59AM OR ANYTHING WE CAN DO.
10:47:01AM I WISH THEY WERE HERE TODAY OR ALLOWED TO BE.
10:47:03AM US TRYING TO DESCRIBE WHY WE'RE NOT SAVING THAT HISTORY,
10:47:06AM THAT IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING FOR 8-YEAR-OLD OR 18-YEAR-OLD
10:47:09AM OR 98-YEAR-OLD.
10:47:11AM WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT DOING BETTER, BUT IF WE
10:47:13AM COULD ALL DO BETTER, I PROMISE YOU OUR KIDS ARE TRYING TO
10:47:16AM MAKE LIFE MUSICAL.
10:47:18AM THEY'LL SPREAD THE WORD.
10:47:19AM SO MANY ADULTS AROUND US THAT DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY, BUT
10:47:22AM THESE KIDS, THEY ARE GOING TO DO IT.
10:47:23AM I BRING THEM THERE AND WE WALK THERE AND OUR NEXT INITIATIVE
10:47:27AM WILL BE AT KID MASON WHICH FINALLY GOT RENOVATED, AND WE'LL
10:47:30AM NEVER LEAVE THERE.
10:47:32AM WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE TO WALK BY THAT JACKSON HOUSE.
10:47:34AM WHEN WE BRING IT BACK, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OPEN JAMS WITH
10:47:38AM THOSE KIDS PLAYING IN THERE AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL
10:47:41AM THOSE STORIES.
10:47:42AM THAT'S WHAT TAMPA DESERVES, RIGHT?
10:47:44AM OUR MUSIC HISTORY TO SURVIVE, BLACK HISTORY, ALL OF OUR
10:47:48AM HISTORY.
10:47:49AM IT'S TAMPA'S HISTORY.
10:47:50AM THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
10:47:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STEPHEN MICHELINI.
10:47:54AM MENTESNOT.
10:47:55AM MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:47:57AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
10:47:58AM LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING, WHY THAT EASEMENT, RELEASE OF THE
10:48:05AM ALLEY IS IMPORTANT.
10:48:06AM IT GOES THROUGH THREE CITY BLOCKS.
10:48:08AM IT SEPARATES ACCARDI'S PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES.
10:48:13AM THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT.
10:48:14AM THE JACKSON HOUSE DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS IN THE BACK.
10:48:17AM THEY JUST DON'T.
10:48:19AM THAT'S AN EXAGGERATION AT BEST.
10:48:22AM WHAT THE AGREEMENT TALKS ABOUT IS NOT EXTRACTION.
10:48:27AM IT'S NOT STRONG-ARMING.
10:48:30AM IT SAYS SIMPLY DON'T OBJECT TO THE REQUEST FOR VACATING.
10:48:34AM OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO GRANT THAT OR NOT.
10:48:36AM PREVIOUSLY, WE FILED FOR A VACATING FOR THAT ALLEY AND THE
10:48:43AM JACKSON HOUSE AND DR. COLLINS WERE ALL SUPPORTED.
10:48:46AM I MET WITH THEM.
10:48:47AM I MET WITH GILMORE -- RICARDO -- GILMORE -- HE WAS THEIR
10:48:55AM ATTORNEY.
10:48:55AM WE HAD AN AGREEMENT UNTIL THE MORNING OF THE HEARING AND
10:48:58AM THEY FILED A LETTER OF OBJECTION.
10:49:00AM SO WE WITHDREW THAT PETITION.
10:49:02AM THEY MET, DR. COLLINS AND THE ATTORNEYS ALL MET IN DECEMBER
10:49:08AM AND AGREED ON THE CONTENTS OF WHAT WAS TO BE DONE, INCLUDING
10:49:14AM LAND TRANSFERS ADJACENT TO THE SIDE OF THEIR BUILDING TO
10:49:17AM GIVE THEM ACCESS AND PARKING.
10:49:19AM THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AGAIN, THIS PARKING LOT, WHICH IS
10:49:24AM ADJACENT TO THE JACKSON HOUSE SERVES THAT BUILDING, WHICH IS
10:49:28AM LEASED.
10:49:29AM THIS IS THE PARKING LOT FOR THEM.
10:49:31AM THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP SPACES ALONG THIS SIDE AND THE
10:49:34AM OTHER SIDE SO THAT THEY DO HAVE ACCESS AND PARKING.
10:49:37AM I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAILS OF ALL OF THE
10:49:41AM PROVISIONS OF THE AGREEMENT, BUT DR. COLLINS AND THE JACKSON
10:49:46AM FOUNDATION HAVE HAD THE AGREEMENT SINCE DECEMBER, AND IT WAS
10:49:51AM REDRAFTED ACCORDING TO THEIR WISHES AND WE HAVE HEARD
10:49:55AM NOTHING FROM THEM.
10:49:56AM JASON ACCARDI AND THE ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN CALLING THEM.
10:49:58AM THEY TOLD ME WEEKLY WITH NO REPLY.
10:50:01AM THE ACCARDIS ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS HAPPEN AND
10:50:08AM PRESERVING IT, DOING WHATEVER THEY CAN TO ASSIST IN
10:50:10AM PRESERVING THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:50:16AM THE REQUESTS THAT HAVE GONE OUT TO THE JACKSON FOUNDATION
10:50:20AM HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED AT ALL.
10:50:22AM PUTTING THIS ON THE ACCARDIS, SOMEHOW THEY ARE
10:50:25AM STRONG-ARMING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SIMPLY, COMPLETELY
10:50:27AM INACCURATE.
10:50:28AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD REQUEST IS THAT PERHAPS ONE
10:50:31AM OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD ACT TO HELP FACILITATE THE
10:50:35AM CONCLUSION OF THIS MATTER.
10:50:38AM NOT IN CAPACITY OF A COMMITMENT BUT IN THE CAPACITY OF
10:50:42AM HELPING TO FACILITATE SO THAT WE STOP THIS GOING CROSS-WAYS
10:50:46AM ON THE DISCUSSIONS, AND WE GET THE AGREEMENT DONE AND GET
10:50:50AM THE JACKSON HOUSE SAVED.
10:50:51AM I WOULD HOPE THAT ONE OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD VOLUNTEER
10:50:55AM TO DO THAT AND INTERFACE SO THAT WE HAVE THE OPEN LINE OF
10:50:59AM COMMUNICATION INSTEAD OF SILENCE.
10:51:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:02AM MENTESNOT.
10:51:04AM MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:51:07AM MS. CONNIE BURTON.
10:51:08AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:51:09AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:51:10AM >> UHURU.
10:51:11AM LEARN THE WORD UHURU.
10:51:14AM FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
10:51:15AM NAME IS MENTESNOT, MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
10:51:19AM LIKE SOME PEOPLE ARE SO DISINGENUOUS, THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN
10:51:23AM TO STOP.
10:51:24AM THE FACT OF THE MATTER, I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
10:51:27AM JACKSON HOUSE.
10:51:27AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT.
10:51:29AM ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT SAID IS
10:51:31AM THE NEW LOUNGE.
10:51:33AM MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS, NOTHING SAID ABOUT
10:51:36AM CENTRAL PARK.
10:51:37AM MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE
10:51:41AM INVESTMENT RIGHT THERE, RIGHT AT THAT SPOT.
10:51:44AM RIGHT AT THAT EXACT SPOT.
10:51:48AM WHO SO FAR THE ACCARDI, BACARDIS, WHOEVER THEY ARE, THEY
10:51:52AM NEED TO GIVE THAT LAND UP.
10:51:54AM THEY NEED TO GIVE IT AWAY.
10:51:55AM SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING MORALLY,
10:51:58AM SOCIALLY, POLITICALLY, ECONOMICALLY.
10:52:01AM FOR WHAT THAT MEAN TO AFRICAN PEOPLE, THEY JUST NEED TO GIVE
10:52:05AM THE LAND AWAY AND LET THE PEOPLE AT THE JACKSON HOUSE MAKE
10:52:07AM THE DECISION OVER IT.
10:52:08AM NOTHING MORE.
10:52:10AM NOTHING LESS.
10:52:11AM I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:52:13AM WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I LIKE
10:52:17AM TO APOLOGIZE FOR ANY NAME CALLING, CALLING ANYBODY OUT OF
10:52:23AM THEIR NAME.
10:52:24AM I LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
10:52:25AM I LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY STANCE LAST WEEK IN CALLING
10:52:29AM PEOPLE GARBAGE BECAUSE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DO IN
10:52:32AM TEACHING MY KIDS IS TELL THEM DON'T ALLOW ANYONE TO BULLY
10:52:35AM YOU AND DON'T ALLOW ANYONE TO CALL YOU OUT OF YOUR NAME.
10:52:38AM I HAVE TO LIVE BY EXAMPLE.
10:52:40AM DON'T LET ANYONE CALL YOU THE N WORD.
10:52:43AM DON'T LET THEM -- TRY TO EDUCATE THEM.
10:52:45AM DON'T LET THEM USE IT AROUND YOU TOO MUCH.
10:52:48AM TRY TO EDUCATE THEM.
10:52:49AM IF NOT, REMOVE YOURSELF AWAY FROM THEM.
10:52:52AM DON'T LET ANYONE PHYSICALLY ABUSE YOU, SEXUALLY ABUSE YOU,
10:52:57AM HARASS YOU, NONE OF THOSE THINGS.
10:52:59AM THAT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO CALL ANYONE OUT OF THEIR NAME,
10:53:02AM TALK ABOUT THEIR RELIGION, TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OF THAT
10:53:04AM NATURE.
10:53:04AM THAT'S NOT ME BY NATURE.
10:53:06AM WASN'T RAISED THAT WAY AND I'M NOT THAT PERSON.
10:53:09AM I'M THE KIND OF PERSON THAT HELP PEOPLE IN ANY WAY I
10:53:12AM POSSIBLY CAN.
10:53:14AM BUT I ALSO LIVE BY THE EXAMPLE OF WON'T BE BULLIED.
10:53:17AM WON'T BE PUSHED AROUND.
10:53:20AM SO HONESTLY AND TRULY AND SINCERELY LIKE TO APOLOGIZE.
10:53:24AM THAT'S NOT ME AND IT'S NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF MY EXISTENCE.
10:53:27AM BUT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS CHILD SUPPORT.
10:53:30AM I ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT MS. SCOTT OVER AT MEACHAM LEARNING
10:53:37AM CENTER.
10:53:37AM A LOT OF PEOPLE, MENTIONED -- PEOPLE LIKE THAT IN CENTRAL
10:53:41AM PARK.
10:53:42AM THE LADY, MS. SCOTT, SHE'S DONE SO MUCH FOR THE AFRICAN
10:53:45AM COMMUNITY AND NOBODY EVER SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HER.
10:53:48AM BUT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
10:53:49AM BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE NAMES CHARLES DENTON,
10:53:52AM ARABELLA CAMPBELL, SABRINA FRYE, AND THE CHILD SUPPORT AREA,
10:53:56AM THEY ARE THE KU KLUX KLAN OPERATING RIGHT OVER THERE IN THE
10:54:00AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COURTHOUSE, AND THIS CITY COUNCIL NEED
10:54:04AM TO TAKE A LOOK INTO WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
10:54:06AM THEY ARE CROOKED AS EVER.
10:54:07AM AND THEY ARE PUTTING THE PRESSURE ON BLACK MEN.
10:54:10AM THAT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM BLACK MEN HAVE IN THE UNITED
10:54:13AM STATES OF AMERICA, CHILD SUPPORT.
10:54:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:54:16AM MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:54:19AM MS. CONNIE BURTON.
10:54:21AM IS IT NICK EWING?
10:54:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:54:28AM NUMBER 18, THERE IS A GRANT FOR NATURE BASED SOLUTIONS FOR
10:54:33AM PICNIC ISLAND.
10:54:34AM WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO DISCUSS THIS WITH THE COMMUNITY?
10:54:36AM WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT.
10:54:39AM I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT TO
10:54:41AM ME A YEAR OR SO AGO.
10:54:43AM BUT IT IS A HUGE GRANT FOR LIKE $2 MILLION TO DO SOME WORK
10:54:46AM OFF OF PICNIC ISLAND.
10:54:49AM I WOULD THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
10:54:51AM I HAD TO GO TO PAGE 27 OF THE 65 PAGE DOCUMENT IN ORDER TO
10:54:54AM FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HELL IT WAS FOR.
10:54:56AM NUMBER 30, THAT MOBILITY STUDY HAS BEEN IN MY HANDS SINCE
10:55:00AM SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
10:55:02AM WE'RE PAYING FOR IT NOW.
10:55:04AM I'M KIND OF CONFUSED.
10:55:05AM I WANT TO KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED AND WHEN
10:55:08AM WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN PLACE BECAUSE WE ARE CURRENTLY
10:55:10AM CHARGING LIKE 13 OR 14 HUNDRED DOLLARS.
10:55:13AM I DIDN'T BRING THE DOCUMENTS WITH ME TODAY.
10:55:15AM AND WE SHOULD BE CHARGING ABOUT $9,000 FOR EACH
10:55:18AM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
10:55:19AM SO WE ARE LOSING $800 EVERY TIME SOMEBODY BUILDS A
10:55:22AM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN THIS CITY.
10:55:24AM NUMBER 61, ARE THOSE CREDIT CARD USERS PAYING FOR THOSE FEES
10:55:30AM OR ARE WE PAYING FOR THEM OUT OF POCKET?
10:55:32AM THANK YOU FOR ASKING.
10:55:33AM NUMBER 74, WHY WAS THIS REMOVED?
10:55:35AM I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BREAKDOWN OF THE SPENDING IN
10:55:39AM THIS CITY BY THE DISTRICTS.
10:55:42AM HERE'S WHY.
10:55:43AM BECAUSE IN SOUTH OF GANDY, NOT SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY
10:55:47AM ALONE, THESE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT
10:55:50AM SINCE THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAVE SEEN A
10:55:55AM $9.3 MILLION JUMP IN TAX DOLLARS.
10:56:00AM $9.3 MILLION JUMP.
10:56:04AM THAT WOULD BE THE ONE-YEAR JUMP.
10:56:07AM NOW, OVER TIME, IT'S GOTTEN TO BE, I THINK IT WAS $14
10:56:11AM MILLION THIS YEAR.
10:56:13AM FOR THOSE 10,000 PLUS APARTMENTS, MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
10:56:18AM I WANT TO SEE WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT.
10:56:20AM ALL I CAN SEE IS THAT HARBOUR ISLAND IS GETTING A LIGHT
10:56:24AM SHOVED DOWN THEIR THROAT BUT NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING IN MY
10:56:27AM COMMUNITY FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HELP US WITH THE PAVING,
10:56:30AM WITH THE TRAFFIC, WITH ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT'S
10:56:32AM GOING ON DOWN THERE.
10:56:35AM SO I WANT TO SEE THE SPENDING HISTORY EVEN IF COUNCILMAN
10:56:39AM MIRANDA DECIDED THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO.
10:56:41AM I THINK YOU NEED TO ASK FOR IT BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHERE
10:56:44AM THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT BECAUSE IT SURE AS HECK ISN'T BEING
10:56:47AM SPENT WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM.
10:56:50AM NOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT ROME YARD BECAUSE THIS IS MY NEW
10:56:54AM FAVORITE THING.
10:56:55AM IT WAS APPROVED, THE RFP WAS AWARDED IN 2021.
10:56:59AM HERE WE ARE, HANNA STREET WAS AWARDED SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT
10:57:04AM ONE.
10:57:05AM SIX MONTHS AFTER.
10:57:06AM AND IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR TWO YEARS.
10:57:08AM AND ROME YARD STILL LOOKS LIKE THIS.
10:57:14AM AND SUPPOSEDLY THE GROUNDBREAKING WAS IN MAY OF LAST YEAR.
10:57:18AM WHY DOES IT STILL LOOK LIKE THIS?
10:57:20AM NOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK OVER THERE.
10:57:22AM I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE LAST TIME I BROUGHT THIS UP
10:57:25AM AT CITY COUNCIL, THE ROME YARD WEBSITE WAS DOWN, BUT IT'S
10:57:28AM BACK UP NOW.
10:57:29AM THEY FIXED THE WEBSITE.
10:57:30AM NOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY --
10:57:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:57:34AM >> PLEASE ASK WHY WE DON'T HAVE THESE APARTMENTS BEING
10:57:37AM BUILT.
10:57:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:57:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY NAME WAS MENTIONED.
10:57:41AM BETTER TO HAVE IT ALL COMPREHENSIVE IN ONE WITH THE BUDGET
10:57:44AM PRESENTED ALL OVER.
10:57:45AM I NEVER SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO.
10:57:47AM LET ME CLEAR THAT.
10:57:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:57:49AM MS. CONNIE BURTON.
10:57:51AM MR. NICK EWING.
10:57:54AM MS. VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:57:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:57:57AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:57:58AM IN THE SPIRIT OF BLACK HISTORY, IF OUR REVOLUTION POLITICAL
10:58:03AM ACTIVIST WAS STILL AROUND BY THE NAME OF HUEY PUGH NEWTON,
10:58:09AM WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING WHY THE JACKSON HOUSE IS NOT BUILT.
10:58:12AM IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT.
10:58:13AM BECAUSE WHAT WE SEE CONSTANTLY IS THIS FORCED REMOVAL
10:58:19AM THROUGH POLICY OF ELIMINATING BLACK FACES AND WELL NEW
10:58:25AM FACES.
10:58:26AM AND IT IS VERY DISGUSTING TO NOTE HOW THE POWERS THAT BE PUT
10:58:31AM PLANS TOGETHER THAT SOMEBODY DISCUSSING AS BOB BUCKHORN
10:58:35AM WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO BE TORN DOWN, THEN YOU SEE THE
10:58:40AM DEVELOPERS BUYING UP EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEVER WANT TO HAVE
10:58:42AM THEIR HANDS ON BLACK LIFE TO EVEN THINK THAT THIS BLACK
10:58:46AM COMMUNITY WOULD SUPPORT HIM AND HIS REELECTION BID WOULD BE
10:58:51AM SIMPLE TO US.
10:58:53AM MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
10:58:54AM HUEY PUGH NEWTON, WHAT DID HE DO FOR US?
10:58:58AM HE WAS ABLE TO PUT FORTH 60 GOOD COMMUNITY PROGRAMS THAT
10:59:03AM STILL LASTING TODAY.
10:59:04AM THE GOVERNMENT HIJACKED, THE FREE BREAKFAST PROGRAM, SICKLE
10:59:08AM CELL ANEMIA PROGRAM, THE HOUSING COOPERATIVE.
10:59:11AM WHEN WE HAVE AND WE SUPPORT OUR TRUE BLACK LEADERSHIP, WE
10:59:14AM GET THINGS DONE.
10:59:15AM SECONDLY, WHAT I CAME HERE FOR TODAY IS TO SAY IN THE
10:59:20AM RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE, WE ARE RUNNING INTO SOME BRICK
10:59:24AM WALLS THERE.
10:59:25AM MOST OF US AIN'T GOING TO SIT AROUND AND JUST GO ALONG
10:59:30AM QUIETLY WITH.
10:59:31AM WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE NOT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
10:59:34AM I WANT TO READ TO YOU WHAT WE HAVE ASKED THE CITY FOR.
10:59:40AM IT SAYS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, A REQUEST IS MADE THAT A
10:59:46AM SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN EACH OF THE POLICY AREAS COMPLETED,
10:59:52AM THE POLICY AREA COMPLETES THE SITUATION ANALYSIS WORKSHOP
10:59:57AM THAT CORRESPONDS TO THAT POLICY AREA, PROVIDES IT TO THE
11:00:03AM COMMITTEE CHAIR AND ANGELA CHRIS 14 DAYS PRIOR TO THE
11:00:12AM MEETING THAT ADDRESSES THE POLICY AREA AND ATTENDS THE
11:00:13AM CORRESPONDING MEETING.
11:00:21AM AND THE AGENDA AND WORKSHOP ARE ATTACHED AND REFERENCED.
11:00:25AM I AM QUITE SURE THAT LUIS VIERA AND THE ATTORNEY WILL BE
11:00:29AM ABLE TO ELABORATE ON THAT MORE.
11:00:31AM I AM JUST SO UPSET SITTING HERE TODAY.
11:00:34AM I AM UPSET LOOKING AT THIS AGENDA AND SEEING THE MILLIONS OF
11:00:38AM DOLLARS GOING AT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SOMEBODY SHOULD BE ABLE
11:00:40AM TO TELL US HOW DO HAVE LIFE IMPROVED AND THE QUALITY OF
11:00:46AM OUR ECONOMIC CONDITION.
11:00:47AM IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU ALL TO PASS SORT OF BILLS WHEN
11:00:50AM YOU COME ALONG AND SAY, YOU KNOW, TAMPA IS A BETTER PLACE.
11:00:54AM GOD DAMN, HOW WILL BLACK PEOPLE PROSPER IN THIS CITY!
11:00:59AM IT IS ON ALL OF YOU ALL.
11:01:00AM IT IS ON TO EVERYBODY THAT WAS ONCE THE MAYOR HERE AS WELL.
11:01:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:01:06AM NICK EWING, MISS VALERIE BULLOCK AND MRS. CHLOE CONEY.
11:01:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:01:17AM NICK EWING, THE AUTHOR OF ARTS AND THROUGH A COMPANY CALLED
11:01:22AM ARTISTRY GARDEN.
11:01:24AM PLEASURE TO SEE THE COUNCIL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE THINGS
11:01:27AM HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:01:28AM I'M IMPRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY BEHIND ME REPRESENTING THE
11:01:33AM FUTURE OF THIS INCREDIBLE CITY I LIVED IN FOR 25 YEARS NOW
11:01:37AM COMING FROM PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA.
11:01:39AM I HAVE BEEN PERFORMING MUSIC FOR TWO DECADES.
11:01:41AM MANY OF HAVE YOU SEEN THE MUSIC.
11:01:43AM PARTICIPATING WITH INSTRUMENTS FOR LIFE FOR THEIR MAKE LIFE
11:01:47AM MUSICAL SYSTEM HAPPENING IN CENTRAL TAMPA AND PLEASURE TO
11:01:50AM LEARN OF THE HISTORY OF WHAT WE HAVE HAD IN THIS CITY.
11:01:52AM I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD IN
11:01:55AM THIS PARTICULAR MEETING IS THE FUTURE OF WHAT THE CITY OF
11:01:58AM TAMPA WILL SHOWCASE AS HOW THEY CARE ABOUT MUSIC AND ARTS
11:02:02AM AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HERE IN THIS AREA.
11:02:05AM I REALIZE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, THE SOCIAL HEALTH, AND A
11:02:10AM MYRIAD OF OTHER EDUCATIONAL BENEFITS THAT COME FROM BEING
11:02:13AM ABLE TO SHOWCASE WHAT ART AND ORGANICS CAN DO FOR A
11:02:17AM COMMUNITY.
11:02:17AM AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE PURE VALUE
11:02:21AM THAT COMES FROM INITIATING NEW POLICY AND CREATING A WAY FOR
11:02:25AM THE COMMUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED WHOLLY AND VISIBLY THROUGH
11:02:30AM SOUND AND ALL OF WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE A BETTER WORLD.
11:02:34AM I FEEL THAT WE ARE AT A CRUX.
11:02:36AM WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT WHERE WE CAN REALLY SEE A FUTURE
11:02:40AM THAT WE ALL WANT TO SEE IN OUR LIVES.
11:02:42AM AND I BELIEVE THROUGH COMMUNICATION ABOVE ALL, WE ARE GOING
11:02:47AM TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT SOLUTION.
11:02:48AM AND I FIND IT VERY POSSIBLE AMONGST ALL OF YOUR HEARTS AND
11:02:53AM THE HEARTS BEHIND ME THAT WE CAN SEE THESE THINGS COME INTO
11:02:55AM FRUITION.
11:02:56AM AND I WANT TO PLEDGE MY SUPPORT TO THE COUNCIL.
11:02:59AM PLEDGE MY SUPPORT TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE BEHIND ME.
11:03:02AM SOME ARE NOT HERE.
11:03:04AM PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING AND PEOPLE WHO ARE TO COME.
11:03:08AM THE FUTURE HOLDS MORE THAN WHAT THE PAST HAS BEFORE US AND
11:03:11AM UPON US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT CAN REALLY STAND
11:03:14AM THE TEST OF TIME.
11:03:15AM SADLY, THE WAY THAT THE JACKSON HOUSE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO.
11:03:19AM QUITE LITERALLY, AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, ONE STORM AWAY
11:03:24AM FROM BLOWING OVER.
11:03:24AM AND I THINK EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM HAS HEARD THE
11:03:28AM MUSIC THAT COMES OUT OF THOSE HALLS OF THOSE ROOMS THAT HAS
11:03:31AM AFFECTED GENERATIONS BEFORE AND GENERATIONS TO COME.
11:03:34AM AND ALL I ASK AND ALL I WANT TO COME SAY ON MY LAST POINT,
11:03:38AM WE CAN MAKE A LIFE THAT IS BETTER FOR ALL.
11:03:40AM AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH ARTS.
11:03:43AM AND I THINK THAT WITHOUT THAT, WITHOUT THAT FUTURE IN MY
11:03:46AM LAST 30 SECONDS, I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT WITHOUT THAT,
11:03:49AM PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO HAVE BEEN PERFORMING AND CREATING
11:03:52AM ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL BENEFIT FOR THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST
11:03:55AM TWO DECADES, I DON'T SEE A FUTURE HERE FOR MYSELF IF I
11:04:00AM CANNOT SEE THE HISTORY OF WHAT THE WORLD OF THIS TAMPA
11:04:03AM COMMUNITY IS TREATING THE HALLS AND THE MUSEUMS AND THE
11:04:06AM PILLARS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED ARTS AS A
11:04:10AM STRONGHOLD.
11:04:10AM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AND I AM
11:04:14AM PROUD OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS DOING.
11:04:15AM THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
11:04:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:04:18AM MISS VALERIE BULLOCK, CHLOE CONEY, MISS DIANE ZIGLER.
11:04:23AM >> VALERIE BULLOCK FROM COLLEGE HILL AND PONCE DE LEON.
11:04:26AM THE REASON I SAY THAT.
11:04:28AM IT IS HISTORICAL.
11:04:29AM I AM NOT FROM EAST TAMPA.
11:04:31AM I'M FROM 35 14th STREET, APARTMENT 115, COLLEGE HILL.
11:04:36AM THAT THE AREA THAT RAISED ME, THAT REARED ME.
11:04:39AM THAT GAVE ME THE FIGHT THAT I GOT IN ME.
11:04:41AM WHEN I GET KNOCKED DOWN, I GET BACK UP.
11:04:44AM THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO I LEANED ON TO BECOME THE PERSON
11:04:48AM THAT I AM.
11:04:49AM AND I AM REAL, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
11:04:52AM THIS VALERIE UNAPOLOGETICALLY.
11:04:55AM BACK TO THE JACKSON HOUSE.
11:04:57AM IT IS A DARN SHAME WE RIGHT HERE AGAIN.
11:05:01AM LET'S PLAY BALL.
11:05:02AM LET'S DO THIS.
11:05:03AM WHEN ARE WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:05:06AM YOU KNOW IT IS REAL HEARTBREAKING.
11:05:09AM IT REALLY IS.
11:05:11AM IT SHOULDN'T BE LIKE THAT.
11:05:12AM WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION AND ADMIT
11:05:17AM SOME WRONGS THAT WE DID.
11:05:19AM COME TOGETHER AND MAKE IT RIGHT.
11:05:20AM BECAUSE JUST LIKE THE MUSICIAN SAID, MUSIC IS THE LANGUAGE
11:05:24AM THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND.
11:05:25AM I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE IN POWER.
11:05:37AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE -- I CAN'T
11:05:41AM FIND ONE -- THE PEOPLE THAT WILL SACRIFICE THE EXISTENCE OF
11:05:46AM ORGANIZED HUMAN LIFE SO THEY CAN PUT FEW MORE COLORS INTO
11:05:50AM HIGHLY STUFFED POCKETS.
11:05:51AM THE WORLD "EVIL" DON'T EVEN BEGIN TO APPLY.
11:05:55AM WHEN PEOPLE IN POLITICAL POWER MAKE IT THEIR AGENDA TO
11:06:02AM CREATE GENERATIONAL WEALTH FOR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, THEY
11:06:04AM NEED TO BE KICKED OUT.
11:06:05AM IF I AM A POLITICAL PERSON AND A PERSON IN POWER, IT NEVER
11:06:10AM SHOULD BE ABOUT ME.
11:06:11AM IT SHOULD BE ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
11:06:12AM AND WE ALL SHOULD WALK INTO -- AND WALK IN INTEGRITY,
11:06:17AM BECAUSE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE -- THEY ARE HELD AT A HIGHER
11:06:23AM LEVEL THAN SOMEBODY LIKE ME.
11:06:25AM I MIGHT SAY, YOU SEEN WHAT VALERIE BULLOCK DID?
11:06:28AM OH, YEAH, SHE WAS HAVING A BAD DAY.
11:06:30AM BUT WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SABOTAGE
11:06:36AM SOMETHING AND THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES AS A SHEEP, BUT REALLY
11:06:39AM THEY ARE A WOLF.
11:06:40AM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THEM PEOPLE.
11:06:41AM BECAUSE WE GOT TOO DEMOS RUNNING AROUND, DEMOCRAT IN NAME
11:06:49AM ONLY, BECAUSE THEIR HERE FOR PERSONAL GAIN.
11:06:51AM HOW CAN SOMEBODY GO AGAINST THE JACKSON HOUSE?
11:06:54AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
11:06:56AM THE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT ALL THE LAND AROUND IT, THERE IS A
11:06:59AM RAT SOMEWHERE.
11:07:00AM SOMEBODY TOLD THEM ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
11:07:02AM THEY BOUGHT ALL THE LAND, BECAUSE THEY HAD AN AGENDA.
11:07:05AM AND WE NEED TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED.
11:07:10AM ESPECIALLY TO THE EASEMENTS.
11:07:12AM IF WE DON'T GET NOTHING ELSE, WE WANT THE EASEMENTS BACK.
11:07:16AM THANK YOU.
11:07:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:07:20AM CHLOE CONEY, DIANE ZIGLER, ROBIN LOCKETT, SANDY PARDUE.
11:07:26AM THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:07:28AM >> I AM CHLOE CONEY, THE WOMAN THAT WEARS MANY HATS.
11:07:32AM FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, I CAME LAST MONTH
11:07:37AM AND YOU APPROVED THE LAND FOR THE EAST TAMPA INTERVENTION
11:07:40AM CENTER.
11:07:41AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE ONCE THAT IS BUILT, WE WILL
11:07:43AM GET GOOD JOBS, MANUFACTURING, CONSTRUCTION AND HOSPITALITY.
11:07:47AM I WANT TO STATE THIS MY MENTOR, DON MAXWELL OF KANSAS CITY,
11:07:53AM 33 YEARS AGO WHEN I STARTED, TOLD ME CHLOE, IF YOU WILL BE A
11:07:59AM DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, YOU HAVE TO BUY SOME LAND AND OWN
11:08:01AM THE DIRT.
11:08:02AM NOW IT IS A GHETTO IN EAST TAMPA.
11:08:05AM IT WILL BE A GOLD MINE.
11:08:08AM I TOOK THAT ON AND MY SON TOOK IT ON AND WE ARE ON THE EAST
11:08:12AM TAMPA BUSINESS CENTER, THE BUILDING ON HILLSBOROUGH.
11:08:14AM APARTMENTS AND SO ON.
11:08:15AM BUT I COME TO SAY TODAY, I WANT TO REMIND SOME FOLKS BECAUSE
11:08:19AM I HAVE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE.
11:08:21AM I REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
11:08:26AM URBAN LEAGUE THAT PUT THEIR MONEY AND THEIR TIME IN BUILDING
11:08:31AM A WHITE ELEPHANT ON HOWARD AVENUE.
11:08:35AM UNFORTUNATELY, WE KNOW WE LOST A HISTORICAL BLACK
11:08:41AM ORGANIZATION.
11:08:42AM OUR URBAN LEAGUE WAS AROUND 85 YEARS -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE
11:08:48AM Y'ALL KNOW THAT, 85 YEARS.
11:08:50AM AND OVERNIGHT, WE LOST IT.
11:08:52AM THEY LOST ALL THEIR MONEY.
11:08:54AM AND THEY CLOSED DOWN.
11:08:56AM AND THAT BUILDING -- THAT FACILITY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
11:08:58AM BLACK-OWNED -- WAS GIVEN TO THE HILLSBOROUGH EDUCATION
11:09:02AM FOUNDATION THAT IS THERE TODAY.
11:09:03AM NOW TO THE JACKSON HOUSE AND DR. CAROLYN COLLINS WAS RIGHT.
11:09:11AM WORKING WITH CONGRESSMAN CASTOR AND THANK YOU, BILL CARSON
11:09:16AM FOR CALLING ME TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS TIME.
11:09:18AM I TOOK IT ON AND THANK GOD FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
11:09:20AM I WANT TO SAYS IT A SHAME IF WE SIT HERE THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:09:24AM ALLOW THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO THE URBAN LEAGUE
11:09:27AM HAPPEN TO THIS JACKSON HOUSE.
11:09:28AM I HAVE BEEN KNOWING WILLIE ROBINSON ALL MY LIFE AND HIS
11:09:34AM FAMILY.
11:09:35AM WE NEED MORE BLACK-RUN ORGANIZATIONS.
11:09:40AM WE NEED THE HISTORY OF THE JACKSON'S HOUSE.
11:09:43AM NOT ONLY ME, I WANT IT FOR MY CHILDREN AND MY CHILDREN'S
11:09:47AM CHILDREN TO SEE THAT WE CAN OWN SOME LAND.
11:09:49AM AND WE CAN MAKE AN IMPACT UPON OUR CITY.
11:09:52AM SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY TO YOU, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU ALL
11:09:57AM SO MUCH.
11:09:57AM I THANK THE COUNTY AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
11:10:00AM THE VINICKS.
11:10:04AM BUT WE CAN DO THIS.
11:10:05AM WE CAN DO THIS IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER.
11:10:07AM I WILL STAND TALL AND KEEP COMING DOWN HERE TOO BECAUSE WE
11:10:11AM REFUSE TO GIVE UP.
11:10:12AM I KNOW IT CAN BE DONE.
11:10:14AM SO LET'S DO IT.
11:10:15AM GOD BLESS Y'ALL.
11:10:16AM LET'S DO IT.
11:10:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DIANE ZIGLER, MISS ROBIN LOCKETT AND
11:10:24AM SANDY PARDUE.
11:10:25AM >> DIANE ZIGLER AND A HOMEOWNER IN EAST TAMPA AND TO EXPRESS
11:10:30AM MAY SUPPORT FOR THE JC NEWMAN PROJECT.
11:10:34AM A HISTORIC PIECE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN EAST TAMPA.
11:10:38AM IT WILL PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NEW JOBS, REDUCE SLUM
11:10:42AM AND BLIGHT.
11:10:42AM IT IS A TERRIBLE LOOKING BUILDING.
11:10:44AM LOOKS AS BAD AS THE JACKSON HOUSE, MAYBE WORSE.
11:10:49AM I REALLY SUPPORT THE FAMILY INVESTING THEIR TIME, THEIR
11:10:51AM MONEY, THEIR WORK INTO EAST TAMPA.
11:10:54AM AND IT IS A GOOD PROJECT.
11:10:57AM AND I -- THEY ARE BRINGING THEIR OWN MONIES TO THE PROJECT
11:11:02AM AND THEY NEED EXTRA HELP.
11:11:04AM I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT.
11:11:05AM AND I HOPE YOU WILL TOO.
11:11:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:07AM MISS ROBIN LOCKETT AND SANDY PARDUE IS OUR FINAL SPEAKER.
11:11:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:11:15AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
11:11:18AM I WANT TO GO OVER A FEW THINGS.
11:11:21AM THIS MORNING IS BUSY.
11:11:23AM FIRST OF ALL WITH THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
11:11:27AM I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH CHIEF
11:11:31AM BENNETT -- CHIEF -- JOHN BENNETT.
11:11:37AM I CALL HIM JOHN.
11:11:37AM BUT CHIEF BENNETT WITH REGARDS TO MAKING SURE THAT IF WE
11:11:43AM FOLLOW A PROCEDURE, THAT HE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE
11:11:46AM DATA THAT WE NEED.
11:11:47AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:11:49AM THAT'S HELPFUL.
11:11:50AM AND AS -- IT CALMS A LOT OF NERVES.
11:11:54AM WE PLAN ON DOING OUR PART, AND I APPRECIATE YOU OFFERING
11:11:57AM YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO SO.
11:11:59AM SECOND, WILLIE ROBINSON.
11:12:02AM NAACP.
11:12:05AM AGAIN, GREAT MAN AND THANKFUL DR. COLLINS AND THE FOUNDATION
11:12:10AM THAT YOU ARE CONTINUING THAT EFFORT WITH THE REBUILD -- THE
11:12:15AM RESTORATION OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
11:12:17AM I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLY ON IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, IF IT
11:12:22AM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE -- BECAUSE WHEN THINGS DON'T MAKE SENSE,
11:12:25AM MY MIND GOES CRAZY.
11:12:27AM I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO WITH REGARDS TO WHEN THE ZONING
11:12:30AM CHANGE -- WHEN IT WENT TO NO LOT SIZE -- OR LOT LINES OR
11:12:37AM DEALING WITH THE LINES.
11:12:38AM FINDING OUT ALL OF THAT.
11:12:41AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, THAT HOUSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
11:12:44AM IT IS THE ZONING THAT HAS CHANGED BEFORE IT.
11:12:46AM IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL AREA BEFOREHAND.
11:12:49AM SO WHEN DID THAT -- WHEN DID IT CHANGE AND WHY WASN'T THAT
11:12:54AM AND THE PROPERTY GRANDFATHERED IN?
11:13:03AM YELLOW JACKETS.
11:13:03AM KEEP COMING UP ABOUT THE YELLOW JACKETS.
11:13:08AM I THOUGH WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, BUT I WANT TO KEEP THE YELLOW
11:13:12AM JACKETS IN THE FOREFRONT BECAUSE WHAT HAS BEEN SAYING, THIS
11:13:15AM ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO BE GONE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND
11:13:18AM SOMETHING WITH THE NEED OF THE YELLOW JACKETS, SOMETHING
11:13:21AM SHOULD BE PUT FORTH AND STARTED AND THAT SHOULD BE RESOLVED
11:13:25AM BEFORE THIS ADMINISTRATION LEAVES.
11:13:27AM SO I WOULD LOVE TIMELINES AND SO FORTH.
11:13:30AM NOT FOR US TO JUST LINGER ON IT BUT SPECIFIC WHEN THINGS ARE
11:13:36AM COMING BACK TO SEE MOVEMENT ON IT.
11:13:37AM NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY UPSET
11:13:41AM ME LAST -- LAST WEEK WITH CHIEF TRIPP.
11:13:45AM YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS -- WHEN CITY COUNCIL BRINGS CHIEF
11:13:48AM TRIPP UP HERE.
11:13:49AM AND YOU ARE ASKING HER, IN HER DUTY, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEEDS TO
11:13:53AM BE DONE.
11:13:54AM YOU GUYS BRING THE UNION UP HERE.
11:13:57AM AND THE UNION CONTRADICTS -- I LOVE NICK, BUT THEY HAVE
11:14:01AM ISSUES.
11:14:01AM HE DOES NOT HAVE TO SOLIDIFY WHAT SHE SAYS.
11:14:06AM SHE IS THE EMPLOYEE.
11:14:07AM AND SHE IS THE EMPLOYEE.
11:14:09AM SO IT IS DISRESPECTFUL FOR YOU GUYS -- FOR YOU GUYS TO ALLOW
11:14:17AM THAT.
11:14:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:14:20AM OUR LAST SPEAKER IS SANDY PARDUE.
11:14:24AM >> I AM SANDY PARDUE.
11:14:26AM I LIVE IN THE RIVER ARTS NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSE TO HERE.
11:14:30AM I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNING MY POINT.
11:14:32AM IT IS A GENERAL POINT.
11:14:33AM THE GENERAL POINT IS, IT IS BETTER TO BE PROACTIVE THAN THE
11:14:38AM REACTIVE.
11:14:39AM THE REACTIVE WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE IS THE PERFECT PROOF OF
11:14:42AM THAT.
11:14:42AM MY POINTS RELATE TO ABANDONED ISSUES AND IN ALL OF YOU ARE
11:14:49AM NEIGHBORHOODS IN TAMPA.
11:14:50AM NOT JUST MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT A FEW.
11:14:51AM IN EAST, WEST TAMPA, YBOR -- MAYBE NOT TOO MANY IN SOUTH
11:14:58AM TAMPA BUT I AM SURE THERE ARE SOME DOWN THERE TOO.
11:15:00AM MY QUESTION AND COMMENTS, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE CITY
11:15:03AM CODE.
11:15:03AM I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO GET INTO ANY OF THAT, BUT I
11:15:06AM JUST KNOW THAT YOU REQUIRE WHEN SOMEBODY BUILDS A BUILDING
11:15:09AM OR WHEN SOMEBODY DOES A NEW RENOVATION, THERE IS A
11:15:13AM CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE.
11:15:15AM ONCE A BUILDING HAS BEEN ABANDONED AND SITS VACANT FOR SO
11:15:19AM LONG, WHAT DO THE CODES SAY IS REQUIRED OF THE OWNERS OF
11:15:22AM THOSE BUILDINGS?
11:15:23AM I KNOW THERE ARE NUANCES AND LOTS OF SITUATIONS THAT GO INTO
11:15:26AM WHY THESE THINGS ARE CREATED, BUT I AM JUST TALKING ABOUT
11:15:28AM THE FACT THAT THE CITY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A WAY TO THE
11:15:35AM PROACTIVE IN TERMS OF PREVENTING SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THAT
11:15:39AM HAPPEN WITH THIS BUILDING.
11:15:40AM THERE OUGHT TO BE A CERTIFICATE OF NONOCCUPANCY THOSE
11:15:44AM BUILDINGS HAVE TO PASS.
11:15:45AM THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING.
11:15:46AM SEEMS LIKE A SILLY THING MAYBE, BUT MAYBE SOME OF THE
11:15:49AM SITUATIONS WE ARE SEEING IN OUR CITY WON'T BE SO BAD OR AS
11:15:55AM CRITICAL HIGHER STANDARDS FOR THE NONOCCUPIED.
11:15:57AM THE DECREPIT ONES, THE ABANDONED ONES, THE MUSIC STORE WHOSE
11:16:03AM ROOF COLLAPSED TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO EVEN BEFORE THE
11:16:07AM HURRICANE.
11:16:08AM BUILDINGS LIKE THAT.
11:16:09AM WHAT DOES THE CODES SAY.
11:16:11AM DO WE HAVE EXAMINATIONS OF THE CODE PER ODDLY.
11:16:14AM OR ARE THEY THERE AND UNTIL A CRISIS HAPPENS.
11:16:18AM THOSE ARE MY POINTS.
11:16:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:21AM WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 5 AND 6, BOARD AND ADMINISTRATION
11:16:25AM APPOINTMENTS.
11:16:26AM MR. SHELBY.
11:16:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THESE ARE THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS.
11:16:30AM UNLESS THERE IS ANY DISCUSSION, YOU CAN JUST MOVE THE
11:16:33AM RESOLUTION.
11:16:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
11:16:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:16:36AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:16:38AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:16:39AM ANY REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC OF RECONSIDERATION OF
11:16:42AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
11:16:43AM I SEE NONE.
11:16:49AM YES, MA'AM.
11:16:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ABOUT
11:16:53AM NUMBER 6.
11:16:55AM WHEREAS, THESE ARE THE APPOINTMENTS BY THE MAYOR BUT FROM MY
11:17:03AM UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE QUITE A FEW CITY OF TAMPA APPOINTMENTS
11:17:10AM TO THIS.
11:17:10AM AND I BELIEVE MR. SHELBY WILL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER.
11:17:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT THE ENTIRE BOARD.
11:17:15AM THE MAYORAL PART.
11:17:17AM THERE IS A CITY COUNCIL PART.
11:17:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNEW THAT.
11:17:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
11:17:23AM WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
11:17:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I TALK JUST BRIEFLY.
11:17:30AM I WAS AT THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION MEETING ON MONDAY -- WAS
11:17:34AM IT TUESDAY EVENING?
11:17:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TUESDAY.
11:17:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BE BRINGING UP THEIR MOTION TO FORWARD
11:17:39AM THAT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE FOLKS ARE HERE.
11:17:41AM OBVIOUSLY DURING NEW BUSINESS FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFO.
11:17:44AM THANK YOU.
11:17:45AM >> COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THIS IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR.
11:17:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE 7-14.
11:17:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:17:58AM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:17:59AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:18:00AM FOR THE NEXT COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:18:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE WILL PULL 18 AND 19.
11:18:08AM I AM AWARE.
11:18:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU GOT IT.
11:18:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:18:11AM FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, I MOVE ITEMS 15-17,
11:18:17AM AND ITEMS 15-27.
11:18:20AM 15 WAS REMOVED AS WELL?
11:18:23AM 15, 18, 19, THE ONES THAT WERE PULLED?
11:18:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 15 WAS REMOVED.
11:18:28AM WE ALREADY TOOK IT OFF.
11:18:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 16, 17, 20-27.
11:18:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
11:18:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:18:40AM SECONDED BY CLENDENIN.
11:18:41AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:18:42AM SO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAD PULLED 18 AND 19 FOR A
11:18:47AM SEPARATE VOTE AND DISCUSSION?
11:18:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:18:49AM THE REASON I WANT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION THIS IS A FEDERAL
11:18:54AM APPROPRIATION OF $2 MILLION.
11:18:56AM BUT WHEN I ASKED MR. ROGERO, A REIMBURSABLE GRANT.
11:19:01AM WE DO NOT HAVE $2 MILLION SITTING IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW TO
11:19:06AM SPEND ON A PROJECT.
11:19:06AM I ASKED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DON'T GET REIMBURSEMENT.
11:19:10AM BASICALLY, WE WILL HAVE TO STOP THE PROJECT AND DISCUSS IT
11:19:13AM AMONG OURSELVES IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONTINUE.
11:19:15AM UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS QUITE A FEW OF THESE PROJECTS THAT
11:19:18AM WE HAVE IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
11:19:19AM AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT
11:19:25AM AND THAT IS THE REASON I PULLED THIS.
11:19:27AM NEXT WEEK DURING THE WORKSHOP SESSION, WE ARE HAVING A
11:19:34AM CONVERSATION ABOUT BONDING, AND WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION
11:19:37AM OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE LEFT OVER FROM FY 2024.
11:19:41AM I WANT TO HIGHLY, HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO THROUGH THE
11:19:48AM MONTHLY REPORT WE JUST GOT WHICH IS ACTUALLY A QUARTERLY
11:19:51AM REPORT.
11:19:51AM IT IS KIND OF THICK.
11:19:52AM BUT IT HAS SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT POSSIBLE
11:19:57AM PROPERTY TAX DECREASES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT
11:20:00AM ARE DOUBLING, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL WILL HAVE TO
11:20:04AM TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK.
11:20:04AM I AM PARTICULARLY CONCERNED BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS AN
11:20:07AM IMPORTANT PROJECT, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T HAVE THE
11:20:09AM MONEY?
11:20:09AM WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND $2 MILLION?
11:20:12AM I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON FOLKS' RADAR, BECAUSE IF WE
11:20:17AM SIGN A CONTRACT WITH A COMPANY TO DO THIS WORK, WILL WE
11:20:20AM STILL HAVE TO PAY THEM?
11:20:22AM AND MR. ROGERO SAID HE WILL STILL HAVE TO ASK LEGAL ABOUT
11:20:27AM THAT BUT CONCERNS ME AND IT SHOULD CONCERN ALL OF US.
11:20:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH 18 AND 19?
11:20:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW.
11:20:37AM I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT BECAUSE IT WORKS TOWARDS
11:20:41AM STORMWATER.
11:20:42AM WE MAY END UP BEARING THE BURDEN -- THIS IS JUST A STUDY.
11:20:47AM NOT OUT OF COMES OUT OF THIS.
11:20:49AM THE STUDY WILL BE MORE OR WHAT ACTUALLY COMES OUT OF IT.
11:20:52AM I WANTED TO BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION NOW BECAUSE WHAT IS
11:20:55AM HAPPENING IN D.C.
11:20:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:21:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS ALL THESE ITEMS YOU ARE
11:21:04AM HOLDING FOR DISCUSSION, CAN YOU TAKE IT OFF AFTER YOU FINISH
11:21:08AM THE CONSENT DOCKET.
11:21:09AM FINISH THE CONSENT.
11:21:11AM YOU PULL THEM FOR A SEPARATE VOTE IS ONE THING.
11:21:13AM IF YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A POLICY DISCUSSION, PLEASE DO NOT
11:21:15AM DO IT WHILE YOU ARE HANDLING THE CONSENT DOCKET.
11:21:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS FINE.
11:21:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL HOLD 18 AND 19.
11:21:23AM NEXT UP, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WITH ITEMS 28-36, BUT 36 WAS
11:21:28AM PULLED.
11:21:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE SAME THING.
11:21:31AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:21:32AM SAME THING, A POLICY DISCUSSION.
11:21:35AM I WILL MOVE ITEMS 28-35.
11:21:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
11:21:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
11:21:42AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:21:42AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:21:43AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, 37 AND 38.
11:21:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE 37 AND 38.
11:21:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
11:21:51AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:21:52AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:21:53AM OPPOSED.
11:21:53AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:21:55AM 39-47.
11:21:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE 39-47.
11:21:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
11:22:02AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:22:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEMS 48.
11:22:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:22:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:22:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:22:10AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:22:11AM ITEM 49 HAS BEEN PULLED.
11:22:12AM NOW THAT WE HAVE DONE THE CONSENT AGENDA, CAN WE DISCUSS --
11:22:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY OTHER ITEMS.
11:22:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM FINE TALKING ABOUT THESE AFTER LUNCH,
11:22:21AM BUT I REALLY BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START
11:22:24AM TALKING ABOUT NOW.
11:22:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER LUNCH NOW.
11:22:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY BE ABLE TO GET TO THEM BEFORE LUNCH.
11:22:30AM MR. ROGERO IS HERE.
11:22:33AM THE THING IS, MR. CHAIRMAN, AFTER YOU HAVE DONE THE CONSENT
11:22:38AM DOCKET TO GO BACK DO THOSE HIGH TICKET BUDGET ITEMS THAT YOU
11:22:42AM PULLED FROM THE STAFF REPORT FOR A VOTE.
11:22:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 61.
11:22:45AM THERE WAS NO REQUEST FOR SOMEBODY HERE.
11:22:47AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE 61?
11:22:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE 61, 62, THE SUBSTITUTE FOR 63, 64.
11:22:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
11:23:01AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:23:01AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:23:02AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:23:05AM ALL RIGHT.
11:23:05AM MR. SHELBY, DO WE CONTINUE ON WITH 65?
11:23:12AM THIS IS REQUESTING STAFF TO BE HERE.
11:23:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE THE SECOND READINGS.
11:23:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
11:23:24AM HEARINGS.
11:23:24AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:23:27AM SECONDED FROM CLENDENIN.
11:23:29AM LET ME CHECK HERE.
11:23:30AM OKAY.
11:23:31AM ITEMS -- WAIT.
11:23:35AM MIGHT AS WELL SWEAR EVERYBODY IN.
11:23:37AM IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS,
11:23:40AM PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU
11:23:43AM IN.
11:23:43AM EVERYTHING 54 AND BEYOND.
11:23:45AM [SWEARING IN]
11:23:52AM >> I DO.
11:23:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THESES ARE NONQUASI-JUDICIAL AND START
11:23:59AM WITH ITEM 51.
11:24:00AM WAIT, IS STAFF HERE FOR 51.
11:24:08AM MR. SAMONS.
11:24:12AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, ITEM 51 FILE NUMBER VAC-24-16,
11:24:20AM TO VACATE A PORTION OF HILLSBOROUGH RIVER SOUTH OF BIRD
11:24:31AM STREET, EAST OF 19th STREET AND WEST OF ROWLETT PARK DRIVE.
11:24:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMONS>
11:24:39AM THIS DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 51?
11:24:42AM YES, SIR, COME ON YOU UP.
11:24:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:24:46AM HARVEY HALBERN FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:24:50AM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
11:24:52AM EVERYONE IS APPRISED OF THE SITUATION.
11:24:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:24:57AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON 51?
11:24:59AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:25:02AM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:25:04AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:25:05AM OPPOSED.
11:25:06AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, READ 51.
11:25:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 51, FILE NUMBER VAC-24-16,
11:25:13AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
11:25:17AM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING
11:25:20AM DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT PORTION OF MULBERRY DRIVE,
11:25:24AM LOCATED NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, SOUTH OF BIRD STREET,
11:25:28AM EAST OF 19th STREET AND WEST OF ROWLETT PARK DRIVE WITHIN
11:25:32AM THE PLATS OF CATHERINE PARK AND FERN CLIFF SUBDIVISIONS
11:25:38AM WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS
11:25:40AM MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
11:25:43AM COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRIKES MORE PARTICULARLY SET
11:25:47AM FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
11:25:52AM VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
11:25:58AM REPEALING CONFLICTS.
11:25:59AM PROVIDING SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:26:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:26:06AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
11:26:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 52.
11:26:14AM ITEM NUMBER 52.
11:26:19AM ANYBODY FROM A?
11:26:21AM >>ELAINE LUND: HELLO, ELAINE LUND, HISTORIC PRESERVATION
11:26:25AM STAFF HERE VIRTUALLY THIS MORNING.
11:26:27AM THIS ITEM IS AN ORDINANCE TO DESIGNATE THE DOBY HOUSE AT
11:26:32AM 1405 WEST AZEELE STREET AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK.
11:26:36AM STAFF IS PLEASED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A COMPLETE PRESENTATION
11:26:40AM OF THIS ON THE FIRST READING AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE
11:26:43AM ANY QUESTIONS.
11:26:44AM THANK YOU.
11:26:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:26:49AM APPLICANT FOR 52.
11:26:51AM YOU AND MR. FERNANDEZ.
11:26:52AM THERE WAS NO APPLICANT.
11:26:53AM ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 52.
11:26:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:26:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:26:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, READ ITEM 52.
11:27:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING OF THE
11:27:09AM DOBY HOUSE LOCATED 1405 WEST AZEELE STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
11:27:13AM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF AS A LOCAL
11:27:19AM HISTORIC LANDMARK PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES AND
11:27:24AM PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:27:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:27:33AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:27:34AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:27:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 53, COUNCIL MEMBERS
11:27:42AM CLENDENIN AND CARLSON OF MISSING AT VOTE.
11:27:48AM DID YOU REVIEW THE RECORD?
11:27:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:27:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:27:51AM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING
11:27:53AM COMMISSION STAFF.
11:27:54AM ITEM 53 IS A MAP AMENDMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL-20 TO COMMUNITY
11:27:58AM MIXED USE 35 AT 801 EAST 26th AVENUE.
11:28:02AM WE PROVIDED A COMPLETE INTERVIEW ON JANUARY 30.
11:28:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE.
11:28:08AM >> RYAN MANASSE WITH RYAN AND POPE, DEVELOPER OF PLANNING.
11:28:13AM I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT IF NOT, REQUEST YOUR
11:28:17AM APPROVAL.
11:28:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
11:28:20AM 53.
11:28:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:28:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:28:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:28:24AM OPPOSED?
11:28:25AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:28:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, CHAIR.
11:28:27AM FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 24-12, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:28:32AM READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
11:28:36AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
11:28:38AM MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 801 EAST 26th AVENUE, FROM
11:28:43AM RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU-35
11:28:51AM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
11:28:54AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:28:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:28:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:29:01AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:29:03AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:29:05AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:29:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OUR VOTES ARE NOT APPEARING ON THE
11:29:13AM CHART.
11:29:13AM BUT SHE DID SAY IT LOCALLY -- VERBALLY.
11:29:21AM ITEM 54.
11:29:23AM WE SWORN EVERYBODY.
11:29:25AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:29:28AM 54, RE-25-12, REZONE 702 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, 2502 AND 2504
11:29:38AM N. BOULEVARD AND FOLIO NUMBER 183355-0005, THE REQUEST IS
11:29:45AM REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 60, COMMERCIAL
11:29:48AM GENERAL, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO
11:29:50AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, ALL
11:29:53AM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES.
11:29:54AM JUST AS QUICK REFRESHER, THIS CASE WAS BEFORE YOU ON JANUARY
11:29:58AM OF '23.
11:29:59AM HOWEVER, IT BECAME A FIRST READING INSTEAD OF A SECOND
11:30:02AM READING BECAUSE THE APPLICANT NEEDED TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL
11:30:05AM REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN.
11:30:06AM AFTER WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ADDRESS SOME
11:30:08AM CONCERNS, A GATE WAS ADDED ALONG THE ALLEY AND NOTES ADDED
11:30:13AM WITH EXTERIOR LIGHTING, CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE USE OF THE
11:30:16AM ALLEY, PAVEMENT WIDTH OF THE ALLEY, PRESERVING THE ROOTS OF
11:30:21AM THE GRAND TREE FROM A NEIGHBOR ADJACENT AND INSTALLATION AND
11:30:25AM OPERATION OF THE GATE.
11:30:25AM AND I HIGHLIGHTED THOSE CHANGES FOR YOU HERE ON THE SITE
11:30:28AM PLAN.
11:30:28AM ALL REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE
11:30:32AM BEEN SENT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
11:30:35AM QUESTIONS.
11:30:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:30:40AM APPLICANT MR. MALLOY, COME ON UP, EVEN THOUGH I JUST SAID IT.
11:30:44AM >> WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
11:30:48AM BACK HERE FOR THIS LOVELY CASE.
11:30:50AM FOLLOWING THIS TO ADD WITH WHAT SAM PRESENTED.
11:30:53AM I BELIEVE WE ARE AT COMPLETE PEACE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:30:55AM RIGHT NOW WHICH WE ARE HAPPY TO BE.
11:30:57AM I DO WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL, BECAUSE ABOUT A MONTH AGO
11:31:00AM WE WERE ON LIFE SUPPORT HERE.
11:31:01AM AND YOUR DIRECTION AND PROBABLY SCOLDING THAT PROBABLY GOT
11:31:05AM US TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE.
11:31:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:31:10AM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON 54.
11:31:12AM MOTION DO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:31:15AM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:31:16AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:31:17AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 54.
11:31:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ-25-12.
11:31:23AM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
11:31:28AM ORDINANCE ON IN REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
11:31:32AM 0672 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, 2502 AND 2504 N. BOULEVARD AND
11:31:38AM FOLIO NUMBER 183355.0005 IN CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, IS
11:31:45AM SECTION 1 ARE ZONING DISTRICT RS-60 TO CG, AND PD AND PD
11:31:52AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL USES.
11:31:55AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:31:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:31:58AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:32:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONGRATULATION ON A GOOD PROJECT.
11:32:04AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:32:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 55 AND THEN THERE IS A
11:32:08AM RESOLUTION FOLLOWING THAT.
11:32:09AM YES, SIR.
11:32:11AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:32:13AM ITEM NUMBER 55, REZ-24-52, REZONE 205, 207 AND 209 EAST
11:32:23AM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
11:32:23AM 2301, 2303 AND 2307 AND 2315 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE AND 204 AND 206
11:32:32AM EAST AMELIA AVENUE AND FROM RM-24 TO PD AND CI.
11:32:41AM JUST AS THE CASE BEFORE, THIS WAS BEFORE YOU ON JANUARY 23
11:32:44AM FOR SECOND READING.
11:32:45AM THAT BECAME A FIRST READING AGAIN IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT
11:32:48AM TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN TO ADDRESS SOME
11:32:51AM CONCERNS THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THE ADDITIONAL RETAIL ADDED AND
11:32:55AM UPDATES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
11:32:56AM ADDITIONALLY, A NOTE WAS ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN REGARDING
11:33:00AM THE RETAIL IS SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT WILL
11:33:04AM NOT BE CHANGED.
11:33:05AM ALL THOSE REVISIONS HAVE BEEN GREETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS
11:33:09AM HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
11:33:11AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:33:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:33:15AM YES, MA'AM.
11:33:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
11:33:17AM I REMEMBER THE CHANGE WAS REALLY THEY JUST TOOK A LITTLE BIT
11:33:23AM OF THE LOBBY AND MADE MORE RETAIL SPACE.
11:33:26AM THAT WAS THE ACTUAL CHANGE.
11:33:27AM CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT?
11:33:29AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: YES, MA'AM, SO THEY INCREASED THE RETAIL
11:33:32AM SQUARE FOOTAGE UP FROM 4500 TO 5500 SQUARE FEET.
11:33:37AM THEY MADE THAT CHANGE ON THE SITE PLAN TO INCREASE THE
11:33:39AM RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
11:33:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BY 500 SQUARE FEET?
11:33:43AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: 1,000 SQUARE FEET.
11:33:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 1,000, THANK YOU.
11:33:46AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: UPDATED THAT THERE, THERE, AND THE CHANGE
11:33:50AM NOTE THAT THE SQUARE FOOT AND OF THE RETAIL COULD NEVER BE
11:33:53AM CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
11:33:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:33:57AM THANK YOU.
11:33:58AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: YES, MA'AM.
11:34:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:34:01AM MR. HUDSON, COME ON UP.
11:34:03AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:34:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:34:06AM TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
11:34:09AM I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD TO SAM'S THOROUGH OVERVIEW.
11:34:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE AND --
11:34:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:34:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:34:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
11:34:33AM 55.
11:34:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:34:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:34:37AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:34:38AM BEFORE WE READ IT.
11:34:39AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, GO AHEAD.
11:34:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS WAS A DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME AS I SAID
11:34:44AM IN THE FIRST READING WHEN I VOTED AGAINST IT AND CHANGED ON
11:34:47AM THE SECOND ONE AFTER THE APPLICANT CAME BACK WITH -- WITH --
11:34:51AM I MEAN, REALLY A VERY SMALL CONCESSION WHICH IS PART OF THE
11:34:55AM REASON YOU SEE SOME OF THE NO VOTES ON THIS.
11:34:57AM BUT I DID WANT -- AGAIN, I KIND OF JUST TILTED A LITTLE BIT
11:35:01AM IN FAVOR OF THIS, BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A CONSEQUENTIAL
11:35:05AM PROJECT.
11:35:05AM AND THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING BEING PROVIDED AND THE QUALITY OF
11:35:09AM THE PROJECT WAS GOOD.
11:35:11AM SO I WOULD RATHER HAVE SEEN A MORE TRADITIONAL-LOOKING MIXED
11:35:16AM USE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS.
11:35:20AM AND I THINK WHY I WANT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE FOLKS WHO ARE
11:35:23AM LISTENING, WHEN YOU ARE COMING TO US ON THE KEY TRANSIT
11:35:28AM CORRIDORS, KEY INTERSECTIONS AND CORRIDORS, HOW WE ENVISION
11:35:33AM WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL LOOK LIKE.
11:35:35AM MUCH MORE MIXED DEVELOPMENT AND THE SERVICE COMPONENT AS
11:35:40AM WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL.
11:35:41AM AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND COME FORWARD WITH PROJECTS, WE ARE
11:35:44AM GOING TO EXPECT MORE.
11:35:45AM AND, AGAIN, I AM -- I AM OKAY WITH THIS ONE.
11:35:49AM BUT -- WE I SAY BARELY, I MEAN BY A HAIR -- BY A HAIR I AM
11:35:54AM BARELY OKAY WITH THIS.
11:35:55AM I WOULD RATHER SEE MORE.
11:35:56AM BUT I WILL SAY YES TO THIS ONE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF
11:35:59AM RESIDENCES.
11:36:01AM QUALITY CONSTRUCTION.
11:36:02AM WOULD I WOULD -- IF IT WAS MY PROJECT, WOULD I LIKE TO SEE
11:36:06AM IT A LITTLE BETTER, WHY HE, BUT I WILL VOTE YET.
11:36:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND HENDERSON.
11:36:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WHY I AM VOTING NO.
11:36:14AM SUCH AN IMPORTANT CORNER.
11:36:16AM EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU PASS THAT BUILDING, IT WILL BE A
11:36:19AM REGRET.
11:36:19AM THAT IS WHY I HAVE TO BE SO VOCAL ABOUT THIS.
11:36:22AM BECAUSE THE ONE -- THE PROJECT THAT WE JUST APPROVED FOR
11:36:24AM SECOND READING WENT BACK AND WORKED AND GOT IT RIGHT.
11:36:28AM AND THAT -- EVEN THOUGH IT IS A SHORTER AND SMALLER
11:36:32AM DEVELOPMENT, WILL BE REMEMBERED AS A MUCH BETTER
11:36:34AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:36:34AM IT WILL.
11:36:35AM IT IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE.
11:36:38AM BECAUSE THAT BUILDING FITS IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:36:42AM THE OTHER ONE IS FITTING A SUBURBAN-TYPE DEVELOPMENT INTO AN
11:36:47AM URBAN CORE.
11:36:48AM I DON'T EVEN THINK THERE IS REMOTELY A HAIR.
11:36:52AM A HUGE LEAP.
11:36:53AM VASTLY DIFFERENT.
11:36:54AM I COULDN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU MORE.
11:36:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:36:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:36:59AM I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID
11:37:02AM BECAUSE I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:37:03AM I THINK FOR ME, THIS IS TRULY A MISSED OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE
11:37:10AM THIS PROPERTY LITERALLY DOES SIT IN THE COMMUNITY OF TAMPA
11:37:14AM HEIGHTS.
11:37:14AM AND WHEN IT INITIALLY WAS PRESENTED ABOUT STOREFRONT, YOU
11:37:18AM KNOW, I WAS DISAPPOINTED WHEN ONLY LESS THAN -- THE 5,000
11:37:22AM SQUARE FEET CAME BACK AND THAT IS WHAT WE VERBALIZED BECAUSE
11:37:26AM IT IS SITTING IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA ON A TRANSPORTATION
11:37:29AM CORRIDOR THAT MAKES IT WALKABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT NOT
11:37:33AM MUCH THERE IN THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
11:37:35AM AND WE CLEARLY INDICATED THAT.
11:37:36AM AND SO TO COME BACK AND TALK A LITTLE BIT OF THE LOBBY,
11:37:40AM YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO SATISFY US.
11:37:42AM IT WAS REALLY, FOR ME, DISINGENUOUS, AND I CANNOT SUPPORT IT
11:37:47AM FOR THAT REASON.
11:37:48AM IT IS NOT ENOUGH THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:37:50AM BECAUSE YOU ARE ASKING FOR SO MUCH.
11:37:52AM YES, THERE WAS A STEP DOWN BECAUSE OF THE BACK NEIGHBORS
11:37:59AM PROPERTY.
11:37:59AM THAT WASN'T ENOUGH.
11:38:00AM MISSED OPPORTUNITY WAS THE STOREFRONT MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE
11:38:05AM TO THE COMMUNITY, AND I AM JUST DISAPPOINTED.
11:38:10AM THAT IS WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
11:38:12AM SO I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AS WELL.
11:38:14AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER PROJECT, WHICH I ACTUALLY
11:38:18AM FLIPFLOPPED ON IF YOU ALL REMEMBER.
11:38:20AM AND IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC THAT I DID THAT, BECAUSE IT FORCED
11:38:24AM THEM TO GO BACK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE
11:38:27AM COMMUNITY AND CLEAN UP THAT ONE PIECE THAT WAS VERY
11:38:29AM IMPORTANT.
11:38:29AM THIS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THAT.
11:38:31AM THANK YOU.
11:38:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:38:35AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 55?
11:38:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER 55, FILE NUMBER REZ-24-52, ORDINANCE
11:38:51AM FOR SECOND READING ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
11:38:55AM GENERAL VICINITY OF 205, 207 AND 209 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
11:39:00AM 2301, 2303, 2307, 2315 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE, 204 AND 206
11:39:10AM EAST AMELIA AVENUE AND FOLIO NUMBER 191272-000 IN THE CITY
11:39:17AM OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED THIS SECTION
11:39:20AM 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-24 RESIDENTIAL
11:39:24AM MULTIFAMILY AND CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD, PLANNED
11:39:29AM DEVELOPMENT, STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, PROVIDING AN
11:39:32AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:39:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:39:35AM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:39:37AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:39:39AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, HENDERSON AND HURTAK
11:39:49AM VOTING NO.
11:39:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WISHES TO MOVE THE REVIEW HEARINGS.
11:39:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
11:39:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:40:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND
11:40:03AM SECOND FROM CARLSON.
11:40:04AM DO WE DO IT OR DO A ROLL CALL.
11:40:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:40:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:40:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
11:40:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:40:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:40:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:40:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:40:16AM >>CLERK: MOTION VOTED YES WITH HURTAK, HENDERSON AND MIRANDA
11:40:24AM VOTING NO.
11:40:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR ITEMS 56 AND 57, DID YOU REVIEW
11:40:33AM THE RECORD?
11:40:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:40:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, YOU ARE UNMUTED.
11:40:44AM LEO, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:40:46AM NO, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
11:40:49AM IF HE MUTED ON HIS END.
11:40:52AM IT IS ON YOUR END.
11:40:53AM CAN YOU HEAR US?
11:40:56AM >> YES.
11:40:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WE GOT YOU.
11:40:58AM GO AHEAD.
11:40:59AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: SORRY ABOUT THAT.
11:41:01AM GOOD MORNING, LEO DEBARDELEBEN.
11:41:08AM LOCATED AT 1901 EAST 67th AVENUE, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, LARGE
11:41:16AM VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND
11:41:21AM PACKAGE SALES OFF PREMISE.
11:41:23AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATION REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
11:41:26AM READING.
11:41:27AM CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
11:41:28AM PLAN CERTIFIED AND A COPY AVAILABLE TO THE CLERK AND I AM
11:41:32AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:41:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS.
11:41:40AM >> COLLIN RICE.
11:41:42AM WEST CASS.
11:41:44AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
11:41:45AM WITH LEO, TO CLARIFY, NO PACKAGE SALES BEING PROPOSED.
11:41:50AM JUST WANT TO MAKE IT ALL CLEAR.
11:41:52AM NO PACKAGE.
11:41:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:41:54AM >> I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
11:41:56AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND SUBMITTED, AND I RESPECTFULLY
11:41:59AM REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:42:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:42:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS THE ONE WITH THE RESTAURANT ON THE
11:42:05AM ROOF.
11:42:05AM >> YES, MA'AM.
11:42:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WAS THAT ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN, THE HOURS.
11:42:08AM >> I CAN SHOW YOU THE CONDITIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
11:42:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
11:42:12AM I CAN ASK LEO AS WELL.
11:42:14AM BUT, OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT.
11:42:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:42:17AM ANYTHING ELSE.
11:42:19AM IF NOT, ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON 56?
11:42:22AM A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:42:24AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:42:25AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:42:27AM OPPOSED.
11:42:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I -- YOU WANT ME TO DO IT AFTER THE
11:42:33AM MOTION.
11:42:33AM I WANT TO SAY I REVIEWED THE RECORD OF IT.
11:42:35AM STAFF FOUND IT INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK.
11:42:39AM AND WE WAIVED IT.
11:42:40AM IF THIS WAS -- YBOR IS A NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:42:43AM IT IS A COMMUNITY.
11:42:45AM AND WE WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS DENSITY OF -- OF ALCOHOL LICENSE
11:42:51AM WITHIN ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I AM GOING TO VOTE NO.
11:42:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:42:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, FILE NUMBER AB 2-24-46, ORDINANCE
11:43:02AM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ABORTION TAMPA
11:43:06AM SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LARGE
11:43:10AM VENUE CONSUMPTIONS ON-PREMISE ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE
11:43:14AM SALE OF RECORDING OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN
11:43:17AM LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED 1901 EAST 7th AVENUE,
11:43:24AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION, ALL
11:43:27AM ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED.
11:43:30AM REPEALING AB 21-16-28 PROVIDING BE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:43:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:43:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND
11:43:41AM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:43:42AM PLEASE RECORDD YOUR VOTE.
11:43:46AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:43:51AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:43:52AM DEBARDELEBEN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:43:54AM ITEM 57, AB 2-24-49 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2501 WEST BUSCH
11:44:01AM BOULEVARD.
11:44:01AM REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE
11:44:04AM CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER AND WINE CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISES
11:44:08AM ONLY.
11:44:08AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND
11:44:13AM CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND
11:44:15AM PROVIDED TO THE CLERK, AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:44:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:44:20AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:20AM APPLICANT.
11:44:22AM MR. HUDSON.
11:44:23AM >> TYLER HUDSON FOR THE RECORD.
11:44:24AM LEO SAID IT AS WELL.
11:44:26AM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, THANKS.
11:44:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:44:31AM >> ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK?
11:44:35AM MOTION BY MR. CLENDENIN.
11:44:37AM AND SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
11:44:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 57.
11:44:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM FILE NUMBER AB 2-24-49, ORDINANCE
11:44:48AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE
11:44:51AM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
11:44:56AM SALES SMALL VENUE ONLY FOR A CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF
11:45:03AM LAND LOCATED 2501 WEST BUSCH BOULEVARD AND UNIT NUMBER 5A
11:45:09AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2
11:45:12AM PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
11:45:16AM BE REPEALED.
11:45:16AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:45:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:45:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:45:22AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:45:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:45:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I TALK ABOUT THAT -- WE HAVE 15 MINUTES.
11:45:29AM IS IT OKAY IF I BRING UP THE REST OF THE STUFF NOW?
11:45:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE 58 AND 59
11:45:36AM LET'S SEE HOW WE DO WITH THIS.
11:45:38AM 58.
11:45:38AM MR. BRODY.
11:45:41AM >>CARL BRODY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:45:46AM CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:45:48AM HERE FOR FIRST READING ON AN ORDINANCE CREATING AN EVENT
11:45:52AM ZONE FOR THE FINAL FOUR EVENT.
11:45:54AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, TONY MULKEY, DIRECTOR OF PARKS
11:46:00AM AND REC ARE HERE.
11:46:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE
11:46:05AM ITEMS.
11:46:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL MADE A MOTION TO OPEN IT UP FOR
11:46:08AM PUBLIC COMMENT INDIVIDUALLY ON FIRST READINGS AS WELL.
11:46:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MULKEY, ANYTHING TODAY?
11:46:14AM >>TONY MULKEY: TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
11:46:19AM THIS IS AN ORDINANCE SIMILAR TO NATIONAL EVENTS THAT
11:46:24AM ESTABLISH GUIDELINES FOR ACTIVATION OF THE PUBLIC SPACE
11:46:28AM AROUND THE TIME OF THE EVENT.
11:46:30AM TO PROTECT CONSUMER AND PROTECT THE EVENTS COMING IN FROM
11:46:33AM AMBUSH MARKETING, COUNTERFEIT MERCHANDISE, THINGS LIKE THAT
11:46:37AM THAT GET ATTRACTED DURING THIS.
11:46:39AM A LOT OF IT IS REINFORCE WHAT IS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS, BUT
11:46:43AM JUST KIND OF CLARIFYING PROCEDURES FOR ANY KIND OF OTHER
11:46:45AM EVENTS THAT WANT TO COME IN.
11:46:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:49AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 58?
11:46:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:46:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:46:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:47:01AM OPPOSED.
11:47:02AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:47:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
11:47:07AM CONSIDERATION.
11:47:07AM ORDINANCE DESIGNATING TAMPA AS AN EVENT TO REGULATE
11:47:12AM ACTIVITIES APRIL 2, 2025 THROUGH APRIL 7, 2025 IN
11:47:16AM PREPARATION FOR HOSTING THE 2025 NCAA WOMEN'S FINAL FOUR
11:47:21AM DESIGNATING GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES, DATES AND TIMES FOR THE
11:47:25AM EVENT ZONE, REGULATING AND PROHIBITING TEMPORARY OUTDOOR
11:47:29AM ACTIVITIES, TENTS, SIGNAGE AND COMMERCIAL PROMOTION AND THE
11:47:33AM RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PROVIDING FOR INSPECTIONS AND PERMITS.
11:47:36AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:47:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:47:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:47:40AM VIERA AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:47:42AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:47:43AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:47:44AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:47:46AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MARCH 27, TO 2025 AT 10 OKAY
11:47:52AM A.M. AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 05 E. KENNEDY.
11:47:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 59 SAYS SEE ITEM 71 THAT TALKS
11:48:03AM ABOUT FRANKLIN STREET.
11:48:05AM YES, MA'AM.
11:48:05AM COME ON UP.
11:48:06AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:48:07AM >>EMMA GREGORY: EMMA GREGORY WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:48:10AM I HAVE THE PARKING DIRECTOR HERE.
11:48:11AM TODAY WE ARE HERE FOR ITEM 59.
11:48:14AM THIS IS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING TO AMEND
11:48:20AM SECTION 15-104 TO INCLUDE THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD AREA.
11:48:24AM THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO ITEM NUMBER 71 WHICH IS COUNCILWOMAN
11:48:28AM HURTAK'S MOTION.
11:48:29AM IT DOES EXACTLY WHAT THE MOTION HAS REQUESTED.
11:48:32AM SO WE ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:48:34AM MR. FREDERICK.
11:48:37AM >> PARKING DIVISIONS MANAGER.
11:48:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE 1,000 PHONE
11:48:43AM CALLS FROM MY OFFICE.
11:48:43AM MY AIDE BRINGS YOUR NAME UP ALL THE TIME AND YOU ARE SUPER,
11:48:47AM SUPER HELPFUL.
11:48:48AM THANK YOU FOR BEING SO HELPFUL TO ANY CONSTITUENT ISSUES.
11:48:54AM YOU ARE ALWAYS THERE.
11:48:55AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:48:56AM COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
11:48:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS.
11:49:01AM THIS IS THIS ALSO THE ENTIRE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER OR
11:49:04AM JUST THIS SPECIFIC ONE?
11:49:06AM >> THIS IS JUST -- CITY OF TAMPA PARKING DIVISION.
11:49:12AM THIS IS SPECIFIC TO ADDING THE FRANKLIN STREET.
11:49:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE OTHER CONVERSATION WILL COME UP LATER.
11:49:16AM >> YES.
11:49:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE YOU MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
11:49:19AM I LOOK FORWARD TO THE REST OF THE PARKING CHANGES COMING
11:49:23AM FORWARD THAT WILL ALSO HELP OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:49:25AM THANK YOU.
11:49:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:49:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK FRED AND STAFF AND
11:49:32AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR FINDING THE SOLUTION.
11:49:33AM IT WAS HEARTBREAKING STORY IN THIS SITUATION.
11:49:38AM AND THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTION.
11:49:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:49:43AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC -- COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON?
11:49:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: KUDOS.
11:49:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: READY TO READ.
11:49:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: KUDOS BECAUSE YOU CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION,
11:49:52AM AND I REALLY APPRECIATED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS A WIN.
11:49:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO
11:49:59AM SPEAK ON 59?
11:50:00AM A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:50:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:50:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:50:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:50:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, CHAIR, I MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2025-8
11:50:14AM CHAPTER 15.
11:50:15AM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:50:17AM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATED TO CHAPTER
11:50:20AM 15, PARKING, ARTICLE II, REGULATIONS, PERMITS, PENALTIES
11:50:25AM AMENDING 15-104, RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT ONLY PROVIDING
11:50:29AM FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
11:50:33AM CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.
11:50:36AM PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:50:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:50:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:50:40AM OPPOSED?
11:50:42AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:50:45AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MARCH 27, 2025 AT 10:00 A.M. IN
11:50:51AM CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, FLORIDA,
11:50:56AM FLORIDA, 33602.
11:50:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:51:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: RESOLVES ITEM 71 ON YOUR AGENDA.
11:51:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE ITEM 71.
11:51:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
11:51:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THEN NEVER MIND.
11:51:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM 71.
11:51:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECEIVE AND
11:51:14AM FILE 71.
11:51:15AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:51:16AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:51:17AM I HAVE A PROMISE FOR YOU.
11:51:19AM IF WE BREAK FOR LUNCH NOW, CAN WE START UP AT 1:30 WITH YOUR
11:51:24AM ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED.
11:51:26AM BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WILL GET IT DONE IN NINE MINUTES.
11:51:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GIVING YOU A WORKOUT TODAY.
11:51:32AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:51:33AM BUT WAIT HERE.
11:51:34AM I WILL TALK TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND.
11:51:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH, SAM WHO WAS
11:51:40AM JUST HERE IS ALSO HAVING A BIRTHDAY.
11:51:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW!
11:51:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WISH EVERYBODY WHO IS HAVING A BIRTHDAY.
11:51:48AM WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
01:33:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
01:33:22PM CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
01:33:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:33:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:33:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:33:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:33:29PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:33:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE PULLED SOME ITEMS.
01:33:35PM START OFF WITH 18 SAND 19.
01:33:40PM >> WE HAD A LITTLE CONSERVATION BEFORE OF THE FACT THAT THIS
01:33:42PM IS FEDERAL MONEY.
01:33:43PM AND WE AREN'T REALLY SURE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE FEDERAL
01:33:46PM MONEY WENT AWAY.
01:33:48PM MR. ROGERO WAS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ME IF THIS IS LEGAL.
01:33:56PM NOT TO SAY THIS ISN'T A GOOD PROJECT, BUT SOMETHING WE ALL
01:34:00PM SHOULD CONSIDER.
01:34:01PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH FEDERAL MONEY.
01:34:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, AFTERNOON, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:34:11PM A NO MATCH GRANT AND APPROPRIATES THE FUNDING ALSO BASED ON
01:34:16PM THE AGREEMENT FOR PICNIC ISLAND PROJECT.
01:34:19PM FURTHER TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S COMMENTS, YES, A
01:34:22PM REIMBURSABLE GRANT.
01:34:24PM WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY BEFORE WE GET THE MONEY BACK.
01:34:26PM AND THIS IS AN INTERESTING TIME, IS IT NOT.
01:34:28PM THAT IS BEING -- ME BEING A LITTLE DIPLOMATIC IN TERMS OF
01:34:32PM WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT COUNT ON FROM FEDERAL FUNDING RIGHT
01:34:36PM NOW.
01:34:36PM A PASS THROUGH, SO FEDERAL MONEY BUT COMING THROUGH THE
01:34:39PM FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.
01:34:41PM SO YOU GOT TWO COMPONENTS.
01:34:44PM OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE, THE FDEP AND YOU HAVE WHATEVER
01:34:48PM AGREEMENT THE STATE HAS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
01:34:50PM IN DISCUSSION WITH LEGAL AND THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY'S
01:34:55PM OFFICE, WE ARE AS SECURE AS WE CAN BE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.
01:34:59PM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OUTCLAUSES WITHIN THE AGREEMENT WHICH
01:35:03PM SEEM TO SECURE US FOR ANY WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE AND HAVEN'T
01:35:09PM BEEN REIMBURSED YET.
01:35:10PM JUST MAKING IT UP IF WE GET HALFWAY THROUGH AND THE FUNDING
01:35:15PM IS PULLED, THEN I CAN THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE A
01:35:18PM DECISION AS TO HOW HIGH OF A PRIORITY IT IS.
01:35:21PM DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH CITY MONEY OR TRY TO FIND OTHER
01:35:24PM GRANT MONEY.
01:35:25PM WE ARE AS SECURE AS IT CAN BE IS THE SHORT SUMMARY.
01:35:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:35:29PM AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS I THOUGHT WE SHOULD
01:35:33PM TALK ABOUT.
01:35:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAY WE HAVE OUTS?
01:35:36PM AN OUT?
01:35:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AN OUT CLAUSE, TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE
01:35:41PM WHERE ONE PARTY GIVES NOTICE TO ANOTHER PARTY.
01:35:44PM AND I THINK IT IS 60 DAYS TO -- TO PAY ALL THE BILLS, TO
01:35:48PM BRING EVERYTHING UP TO SPEED IF WE ALREADY HAVE DONE WORK.
01:35:50PM BUT, AGAIN, THAT IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE STRENGTH --
01:35:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SAFETY NET.
01:35:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
01:35:57PM WE DON'T HAVE A MONEY SAFETY NET.
01:35:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THIS IS A -- AN INTERESTING TIME.
01:36:01PM THERE IS A LOT OF VAGARIES IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FEDERAL
01:36:06PM GOVERNMENT AT THIS POINT WILLING TO CONTINUE TO COMMIT TOO.
01:36:10PM WE HAVE MADE IT AS PROTECTED AS WE CAN.
01:36:12PM WHEN I SAY "WE" REVENUE AND FINANCE, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
01:36:17PM BUT THERE DON'T APPEAR TO BE ANY HARD AND FAST RULES AT THIS
01:36:21PM TIME.
01:36:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:36:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, HAS
01:36:27PM MENTIONED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC
01:36:31PM CLIFF OR TAX CLIFF.
01:36:32PM I SAW FLYERS THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE ASKING
01:36:37PM PEOPLE TO REDUCE THEIR TAXES BECAUSE OF STORMS.
01:36:39PM DO -- I KNOW YOU WILL BE PRESENTING NEXT WEEK, BUT DO YOU
01:36:42PM HAVE ANY LINE OF SIGHT YET AS TO WHETHER REVENUES WILL BE
01:36:46PM DOWN NEXT YEAR?
01:36:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: RIGHT NOW -- WE WILL PRESENT MORE IN DETAIL
01:36:51PM NEXT WEEK.
01:36:51PM NOT AT THIS TIME.
01:36:52PM WE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE
01:36:55PM WE TALKED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
01:36:57PM A LOT OF X FACTORS.
01:37:01PM WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE WERE COLLECTING BASED ON WHAT WE
01:37:03PM COLLECTED LAST YEAR, AND THAT LOOKED VERY POSITIVE AND PRIOR
01:37:07PM TO THE VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARDS AND QUITE A LONG LIST OF
01:37:10PM THOSE WHO WANT THEIR VALUATIONS REVIEWED.
01:37:13PM THERE IS ALSO THE -- THE UNKNOWN AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE
01:37:17PM IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, THERE WAS A CAVEAT IF YOU
01:37:21PM WERE OUT OF YOUR PROPERTY FOR 30 DAYS, THEN YOU GET -- I
01:37:26PM DON'T KNOW IF YOU GET IT ALL REMOVED FROM MEMORY, BUT YOU DO
01:37:28PM GET A DISCOUNT.
01:37:29PM SO THEY ARE STILL -- THEY ARE STILL COLLECTING ALL THE
01:37:33PM INFORMATION OVER THERE.
01:37:34PM WHAT WE HAVE GOT SO FAR LOOKS POSITIVE, BUT THERE IS STILL
01:37:37PM -- WE WILL TRY TO BRING YOU MORE INFORMATION NEXT WEEK.
01:37:40PM BUT NOBODY REALLY HAS A FIX ON IT RIGHT NOW, SIR.
01:37:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU KNOW ANOTHER THING THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL
01:37:47PM NEXT WEEK.
01:37:48PM NOT TO HOLD YOU TO THIS, BUT SINCE THE STATE IS TALKING OF
01:37:51PM DOING AWAY WITH PROPERTY TAXES, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO KNOW
01:37:55PM HOW MUCH WE -- EXTRA WE WOULD HAVE TO CHARGE IN SALES TAX TO
01:37:58PM COVER FOR IT.
01:37:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT.
01:38:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: 8, 8.5, WHATEVER IT IS OR INSTEAD CHARGE 15.
01:38:09PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS, BUT INTERESTING TO KNOW
01:38:12PM THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL START ASKING.
01:38:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, THANK YOU.
01:38:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
01:38:17PM YES?
01:38:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MEAN, I THINK WHAT I AM JUST HEARING
01:38:23PM THAT LEGAL ADVICE IS --
01:38:29PM [ INAUDIBLE ]
01:38:30PM -- SORRY, I THOUGHT I WAS GETTING A COLD THIS MORNING.
01:38:32PM AND TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE.
01:38:35PM SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE JUST WITH -- WITH TAKING THIS
01:38:42PM ACTIONS.
01:38:42PM I MOVE ITEM 18 AND 19.
01:38:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:38:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ASK HER TO COME UP WITH AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
01:39:26PM I -- I DON'T KNOW THAT -- I KNOW THAT THIS IS COST
01:39:30PM EFFECTIVE.
01:39:31PM AND GIVEN THIS IS THE UTILITY SERVICES TAX CAPITAL PROJECT
01:39:35PM FUNDS, A LOT WE CAN DO WITH $300,000.
01:39:37PM FOR 600,000 OCCURRING AT THE SAME FACILITY.
01:40:05PM >> THERE IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE SOLAR EQUIPMENT.
01:40:29PM >>THE SAME COMPONENTS.
01:40:30PM >> BECAUSE NOT GUARANTEED TO WIN AT WAR.
01:43:09PM AND ABUSED NATURE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
01:43:12PM AIR CONDITION IS FINE.
01:43:14PM WASTING WATER IS FINE.
01:43:17PM NOT WITH SOLAR IS EVEN IF.
01:43:20PM USING MORE WATER THAN YOU NEED IS FINE.
01:43:23PM AND KEEP ON DOING THE FINE THINGS AND AT THE END OF YOUR
01:43:30PM LIFE CYCLE WHEN IT IS MY AGE, WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
01:43:34PM WE WILL BE BETTER OFF.
01:43:35PM OR YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE BETTER OFF.
01:43:37PM SO IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT THE COST IS.
01:43:39PM IT IS ABOUT WHAT THE COST AND THE RAMIFICATIONS NOT DOING IT
01:43:43PM IS EQUALS SUM -- THAT IS GREATER OR SMALLER THAN THE ACTUAL
01:43:49PM CAUSE.
01:43:49PM I LOOK AT MATH A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
01:43:51PM IT IS NOT ABOUT ALL SAVING MONEY.
01:43:53PM IT IS ABOUT REALLY SAVING YOURSELF.
01:43:55PM WHEN YOU SEE THINGS HAPPENING NOW, ESPECIALLY IN THIS FORM
01:44:00PM OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE, WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO
01:44:02PM DO THINGS DIFFERENT.
01:44:03PM MAYBE IT WORKS.
01:44:04PM I AM NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T.
01:44:05PM THEY ARE GOING TO MORE THAN LIKELY ALL THE BENEFITS OF
01:44:11PM GETTING A ELECTRIC CAR AND 3,000, 5,000, 7,000, WHATEVER IT
01:44:15PM IS.
01:44:15PM AND THEN, THE CHARGING PORTS.
01:44:19PM CUT THE FUND OUT AND PUTTING MORE AND MORE CHARGING PORTS.
01:44:23PM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THEM.
01:44:24PM BACK TO THE OLD WAYS?
01:44:29PM EVEN HORSES AND COWS, MANEUVER, THEY TO DO THE ENVIRONMENT.
01:44:33PM BUT WE STILL ARE GOING TO HAVE IT.
01:44:36PM I AM NOT SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE IT.
01:44:38PM EVEN THE PRICE OF EGGS HAS GONE UP.
01:44:40PM SO IT IS -- IT IS A WIN SITUATION AND A LOSS SITUATION AT
01:44:47PM THE SAME TIME.
01:44:47PM I AM NOT TELLING PEOPLE TO DO WHAT I DO.
01:44:49PM I AM JUST SAYING YOU GO THE TO WAKE UP AND LOOK AROUND,
01:44:52PM BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE TODAY YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SEE
01:44:55PM TOMORROW.
01:44:55PM IF THOSE STORMS COME BACK, AND THAT STORM, THE LAST ONE,
01:45:01PM MILTON, IT COULD HAVE COME 10, 15 MILES THIS WAY.
01:45:05PM MAYBE WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS BUILDING TODAY.
01:45:09PM AND WE HAVE TO BE FORTUNATE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED --
01:45:20PM UNFORTUNATE FOR PEOPLE WHO GOT HURT.
01:45:21PM IF THEY COME THIS WAY, 50% OF THE TAMPA AREA WILL BE
01:45:25PM REBUILT.
01:45:25PM LOOKED WHAT HAPPENED IN KENTUCKY THE OTHER DAY AND IN TENNESSEE.
01:45:31PM IT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND ANYWHERE YOU GO, NOT FOLLOWING
01:45:39PM LOOK AT IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGE.
01:45:42PM I GAVE UP FOR FIVE MINUTES.
01:45:44PM BUT THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:45:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:45:46PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:45:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHILE EMPATHETIC WITH THE POINTS THAT
01:45:58PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:45:58PM AFTER HEARING COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I HAVE TO AGREE, WE HAVE
01:46:02PM SO MANY UNMET NEEDS IN THE CITY.
01:46:04PM I MEAN, JUST SO MANY UNMET NEEDS IN THE CITY AND WHEN YOU
01:46:08PM BALANCE THESE THINGS OUT, IT IS NOT -- THAT THIS IS NOT A
01:46:12PM NICE TO HAVE THING, BUT WE HAVE NEEDS IN THE CITY AND
01:46:15PM ESPECIALLY WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND SERVICING OUR KIDS
01:46:19PM AND AFTER-SCHOOL CARE AND ISSUES WITH SILVER SPRINGS.
01:46:23PM AND THE -- I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:46:25PM AND A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES.
01:46:28PM SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE MEET ALL THOSE NEEDS, WE START FILLING
01:46:32PM IN.
01:46:33PM ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE NEEDS HAVE BUCKETS FULL, I WILL SUPPORT
01:46:37PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ON THIS AND I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS
01:46:39PM ONE.
01:46:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE ELSE?
01:46:45PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:46:47PM SHE HAD SPOKEN FIRST.
01:46:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: I KIND OF GO WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER
01:46:52PM CLENDENIN SAID, THAT I AM VERY -- NUMBER ONE, WE ALL
01:46:56PM APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, NOT JUST HIS WORDS AND
01:46:59PM PASSION BUT LIVING -- LIVING HIS LIFE CONSISTENT WITH HIS
01:47:03PM DEEDS.
01:47:03PM IT IS ONE THING TO SAY I AM LIBERAL ON THIS ISSUE.
01:47:06PM ANOTHER THING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT OUT OF YOUR POCKET BOOK
01:47:10PM AND MAKE LIFESTYLE CHANGES AND EVERYTHING AND I REALLY
01:47:14PM APPLAUD COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:47:16PM I SAY THAT FOR A GUY THAT DRIVES A CHEVY PICKUP TRUCK.
01:47:21PM I AM APPLAUDING THAT 100%.
01:47:23PM IT IS A CAR.
01:47:25PM A GAS THING.
01:47:26PM I REALLY APPLAUD HIM FOR THAT.
01:47:28PM BUT WHEN I WILL LOOK AT CHANGE ON THIS ISSUE, IT -- THE REAL
01:47:33PM -- THE REAL EFFECT THAT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA IS --
01:47:39PM IS PASSIONATE ABOUT IS TO GET TO IS NATIONAL CHANGE, KIND OF
01:47:44PM STUFF WE HAVE BEEN LEAVING AS THE UNITED STATES MORE AND
01:47:46PM MORE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS OR SO.
01:47:48PM AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT THERE IS A SAYING WHICH IS, YOU
01:47:52PM THINK GLOBALLY AND YOU ACT LOCALLY AND HE IS ACTING LOCALLY.
01:47:57PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN TALKED IN A LAND USE HEARING.
01:48:00PM 50/50.
01:48:01PM I WILL OPPOSE IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR NEEDS THAT ARE
01:48:06PM IMMEDIATE HERE IN THE CITY.
01:48:07PM WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL FUND AVAILABLE
01:48:10PM NEXT WEEK.
01:48:10PM WE HAVE PEOPLE -- AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALL 100%
01:48:15PM SYMPATHETIC.
01:48:16PM SOMETHING OF HOMES AND SO FORTH AFTER HELENE AND MILTON.
01:48:20PM I THINK IT IS -- YOU KNOW 2011, 35% VOTE FOR CURRICULUM
01:48:30PM MOTION.
01:48:30PM THANK YOU.
01:48:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:48:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T -- THING -- I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS
01:48:40PM THAT MADE ME CONCERN IS IT IS NOT MAKING THIS FACILITY.
01:48:46PM IT IS NOT MAKING IT FREE AND BRINGING IT DOWN 40% TO 50% OF
01:48:50PM THE COST AND THAT IS THE PART THAT REALLY WORRIED ME.
01:48:52PM BECAUSE WE ARE STILL HAVING TO PAY UTILITIES FOR THIS.
01:48:55PM AND, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS,
01:48:58PM BUT WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM MAKES IT -- THAT WE CAN
01:49:02PM USE IT FOR OTHER THINGS.
01:49:03PM THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM SOME LOCAL OPTION TAXES, UTILITY
01:49:11PM SERVICES TAX -- CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND THAT CAN REALLY GO
01:49:15PM FORWARD A TON OF DIFFERENT STUFF, BUT CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE
01:49:18PM THINGS THAT RIGHT NOW WHEN WE LOOKING AT ALL THE STUFF THAT
01:49:21PM IS GOING ON WITH THE HURRICANES.
01:49:22PM I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE -- WHEN WE ARE LOOKING
01:49:25PM AT MONEY NOW BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHAT IS
01:49:28PM COMING, WE ALL OWE IT TO THE CITIZENS TO LOOK MORE CAREFULLY
01:49:37PM AT WHERE IT IS GOING.
01:49:38PM THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP.
01:49:41PM I OFTEN WONDER IF AGAIN THE OPPORTUNITY, WOULD -- WOULD THIS
01:49:46PM COMMUNITY CENTER WANT SOMETHING ACTUALLY FOR ITS CENTER
01:49:51PM INSTEAD OF SOLAR.
01:49:52PM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ASKED.
01:49:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:49:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT THEY WANT.
01:50:00PM THE OTHER THING IS THAT I THINK ANY -- ANY THING THAT WE
01:50:06PM SPEND MONEY ON NOW, THE TEST HAS TO BE, WHY ARE WE NOT
01:50:10PM FIXING PEOPLE'S ROADS.
01:50:11PM A BASIC SERVICE OF GOVERNMENT TO FIX PEOPLE'S ROADS AND THEY
01:50:15PM ARE NOT FIXED.
01:50:16PM AND THIS IS -- THIS IS IMPORTANT IN THE LONG RUN AS COUNCIL
01:50:21PM MEMBER MIRANDA SAID.
01:50:23PM BUT IT'S -- IT IS LIKE CHECKING THE BOX.
01:50:26PM WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, GREEN -- GREEN -- GREEN MAILING OR
01:50:33PM GREEN MARKETING?
01:50:34PM IT IS LIKE WE WANT -- WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CHECK A BOX AND
01:50:37PM SAY WE PUT SOLAR SOMEWHERE AND NOT 100%.
01:50:40PM WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE NOT DOING IT IN LOTS OF OTHER PLACES.
01:50:43PM WE JUST DO IT TO CHECK A BOX.
01:50:45PM THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON.
01:50:48PM BUT THIS -- IF IT ENDS UP THAT -- THAT NOBODY HAS TOLD ME
01:50:53PM YET FROM THE CFO'S OFFICE.
01:50:55PM IF IT ENDS UP NEXT WEEK THAT WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY, WE GOT TO
01:50:58PM HOLD THAT IN SHORT-TERM RESERVES BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE A
01:51:01PM FINANCIAL CLIFF.
01:51:02PM AND IF WE SPEND ON SOMETHING THAT EVEN SOUNDS LIKE A
01:51:07PM SHORT-TERM NEED, AND THEN -- AND THEN IN A FEW MONTHS WE
01:51:10PM DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY SALARIES AND WE HAVE TO LAY
01:51:14PM UP 100 PEOPLE, WE WILL BE IN BIG TROUBLE.
01:51:17PM THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR ECONOMY.
01:51:19PM WHATEVER -- WHATEVER WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY -- WHATEVER WE
01:51:23PM COULD SPEND MONEY ON, THE EXTRA, WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE
01:51:28PM HOLD IT BACK BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO RAISE TAXES.
01:51:31PM IF WE RAISE TAXES, OUR ECONOMY IS TOAST IN THIS COMMUNITY.
01:51:35PM WE TAKE ON MORE DEBT, IT IS GOING TO HURT OUR CITY.
01:51:38PM WE CAN'T BE SPENDING ON ANYTHING ANYMORE.
01:51:41PM WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PREVENT FROM LAYING PEOPLE OFF.
01:51:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES ANYBODY PLAN ON SUPPORTING THIS?
01:51:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THAT TRUE THAT WE WOULD BE LAYING OFF
01:51:50PM OVER THIS LITTLE MONEY?
01:51:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
01:51:55PM I WAS TALKING ABOUT -- IF IT TURNS OUT -- LET'S SAY THAT WE
01:51:59PM COLLECTED MORE TAXES THAN WE EXPECTED.
01:52:00PM LET'S SAY $20 MILLION.
01:52:02PM WE ARE POTENTIALLY FACING A SHORTFALL NEXT YEAR.
01:52:06PM AND THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO LAY PEOPLE OFF.
01:52:09PM AND RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE -- UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING WE
01:52:12PM ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE, AND THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF CASES
01:52:15PM FOR WHY WE SHOULD SPEND MONEY ON THINGS.
01:52:20PM ALREADY, WE CAN'T DELIVER ON CITY SERVICES.
01:52:24PM IF WE HAVE TO LAY PEOPLE OFF, WE WILL BE IN EVEN WORSE
01:52:28PM SHAPE.
01:52:28PM FOLKS EXPECT US TO PROVIDE BASIC SERVICE AND WE NEED TO
01:52:32PM CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
01:52:33PM NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WE MAY HAVE TO LAY OFF ULTIMATELY.
01:52:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNDER IORIO, 750 PEOPLE WERE LAID
01:52:48PM OFF?
01:52:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CLOSE.
01:52:50PM DENNIS ROGERO, I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
01:52:54PM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
01:52:56PM WE ELIMINATED ABOUT 700 -- MAYBE 750 POSITIONS.
01:53:00PM HALF OF THOSE WERE FILLED.
01:53:02PM ABOUT 300-PLUS PEOPLE.
01:53:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, MIRANDA AND
01:53:08PM HURTAK.
01:53:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM JUST -- YOU KNOW, WHEN I READ THIS,
01:53:13PM AND MY RESEARCH.
01:53:14PM IT IS UNAPPROPRIATED SURPLUS, IS THAT WHERE THAT IS COMING
01:53:19PM FROM, IS THAT CORRECT?
01:53:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: A PORTION OF IT.
01:53:22PM A SMALL PORTION.
01:53:23PM LESS THAN $20,000 IS COMING FROM A PROJECT ALREADY COMPLETED
01:53:27PM AND HAS A BALANCE.
01:53:28PM REMAINDER IS COMING FROM PARKS AND RECREATION'S MAINTENANCE
01:53:32PM BUDGET.
01:53:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK WHAT IS HARD FOR ME TO WRAP MY
01:53:39PM HEAD AROUND IS NOT NECESSARILY THIS.
01:53:41PM IF WE CAN GIVE HART $1 MILLION FOR PEOPLE TO RIDE A BUS FOR
01:53:45PM FREE, WHY IS THIS SUCH A BIG ISSUE.
01:53:47PM THIS IS FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:53:49PM BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR -- YOU WANTED TO PULL THIS ONE.
01:53:52PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
01:53:54PM WHY WOULD WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND NOT SUPPORT THIS?
01:53:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, IT IS ACTUALLY PRETTY SIMPLE.
01:54:01PM IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, WE HAD A DIFFERENT FEDERAL
01:54:06PM ADMINISTRATION.
01:54:07PM AND TO BE HONEST, AFTER THAT, LIKE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS
01:54:13PM GOING TO HAPPEN.
01:54:14PM RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T KNOW WE WILL GET THE FEDERAL MONEY
01:54:17PM PROMISED TO US.
01:54:17PM WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY MORE OF IT.
01:54:21PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ THE BUSINESS JOURNAL, EVERY WEEK
01:54:24PM MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING LAID OFF.
01:54:26PM AND AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AND PREPARE.
01:54:30PM THIS IS NOT JUST ONE ISSUE FOR ME.
01:54:32PM MY WHOLE POINT IS TO HAVE US LOOK AT THE CONSENT ITEMS A
01:54:39PM LITTLE MORE CLOSELY.
01:54:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE WE CAN'T
01:54:43PM TALK ABOUT IT BEHIND THE SCENES.
01:54:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS A IMPORTANT.
01:54:47PM IF YOU ASK PEOPLE IN PORT TAMPA IF THAT IS WHAT THEY WOULD
01:54:51PM WANT THEIR PARKS MONEY SPENT ON.
01:54:53PM WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS IN PARKS, WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING ON
01:54:59PM SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REACH THE AVERAGE CITIZENS.
01:55:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR LORETTA INGRAM TOO.
01:55:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO JUST FOR PORT TAMPA.
01:55:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
01:55:08PM PORT TAMPA -- A LOT OF NEEDS IN PARKS AND I THINK THAT IS A
01:55:12PM LOT OF WHAT WE LEARNED DURING THE STORMS.
01:55:14PM RIGHT NOW A LOT OF TREES OUT IN PARKS, AND SOME OF THOSE HIT
01:55:20PM SOME BUILDING.
01:55:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS FAIR.
01:55:23PM I MISSED THE TALK OF IT.
01:55:24PM I WANTED TO KNOW.
01:55:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS HAPPENING IN TALLAHASSEE.
01:55:31PM BILL FILED TO ELIMINATE PROPERTY TAXES.
01:55:34PM THAT IS ANOTHER THING TO THINK.
01:55:36PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:55:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, I THINK I CAN COUNT TO FOUR, BUT I
01:55:42PM AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
01:55:43PM SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW, EVEN THE ELECTRIC COMPANIES, THE POWER
01:55:49PM COMPANIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD ARE PUTTING SOLAR.
01:55:52PM ALL OF THEM ARE.
01:55:54PM THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE SPENT EVERY YEAR TO
01:55:59PM CONVERT THE SUN INTO SOLAR ENERGY TO REDUCE YOUR COST OF
01:56:03PM LIVING AND REDUCE A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT COME WITH
01:56:06PM THAT.
01:56:06PM LIKE THE PRODUCTION OF ELECTRICITY ITSELF.
01:56:08PM WHAT DOES IT DO FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
01:56:11PM RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK IT IS WONDERFUL FOR THE
01:56:15PM ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU PRODUCE ELECTRICITY THE WAY WE DO NOW?
01:56:18PM YOU WON'T SEE A LOT OF HANDS GOING UP.
01:56:20PM WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
01:56:21PM AND THE PROBLEM ARE, WE DON'T ADDRESS THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
01:56:25PM WE WAIT UNTIL THEY ADDRESS US.
01:56:26PM AND THEY SENT US A MESSAGE LAST YEAR.
01:56:29PM AND THAT MESSAGE IS GOING TO BE HEARD OVER AND OVER.
01:56:33PM I HOPE I AM WRONG.
01:56:34PM I HOPE THERE ARE NO HURRICANES ANYWHERE.
01:56:37PM WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN CALIFORNIA, KENTUCKY, OHIO, AND ALL
01:56:41PM THOSE STATES THAT ARE -- IF LOOK AT TODAY'S NEWSPAPER,
01:56:48PM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA WAS WARMER THAN AKRON, OHIO.
01:56:53PM IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, LOOK AT IT.
01:56:56PM FAIRBANKS THAT IS CLOSE TO THE NORTH POLE IS WHERE
01:57:07PM IT WAS A FEW YEARS BACK.
01:57:08PM ALL I AM SAYING WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS EVER IF YOU
01:57:13PM DON'T WANT IT TOMORROW.
01:57:14PM SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, WE ARE GOING TO GET TO THE POINT
01:57:17PM WHERE TOMORROW IS NOT GOING TO COME.
01:57:19PM AND I CAN UNDERSTAND ALL YOUR PERSONAL NEEDS, PRIVATE NEED.
01:57:25PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
01:57:26PM WHAT IS MORE OF A NECESSITY TODAY, TO KEEP DOING WHAT WE ARE
01:57:29PM DOING, TO KEEP BUILDING HOUSES THAT HAVE ROOFS THAT ARE MADE
01:57:33PM OUT OF WHAT?
01:57:36PM WOOD?
01:57:38PM SHINGLES?
01:57:39PM WITH AN EAVE 18 TO 24 INCHES WHERE THE WIND PICKS IT UP,
01:57:44PM LIFT THE ROOF AND THE WALLS CAVE IN.
01:57:46PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO.
01:57:49PM CONTINUE DOING HOUSES THE WAY THEY ARE.
01:57:52PM NO MATTER WHAT THE COST IS.
01:57:53PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE COST JUST WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IN
01:57:56PM REPAIRING THINGS AND IMPROVING THINGS IS GREATER THAN
01:57:59PM PUTTING THE WHOLE CITY OF TAMPA UNDER SOLAR WE THINK ABOUT
01:58:08PM RIGHT NOW OUR NEED FOR TODAY.
01:58:09PM FORGET OF PEOPLE WHO NEED ANYTHING.
01:58:11PM I AM REALLY JUST TALKING TO MYSELF.
01:58:13PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
01:58:14PM BUT I ENJOY SOMEWHAT BEING A REBEL ONCE IN A WHILE.
01:58:18PM I AM NOT A REBEL.
01:58:20PM I AM TELLING YOU THE FACTS.
01:58:22PM HOW THEY ARE.
01:58:23PM AND I'M GOING TO START AS SOON AS I GET ON MY FEET A LITTLE
01:58:28PM BIT MORE PUTTING -- AND EVERY HOUSE THAT I CAN TOUCH SOLAR.
01:58:32PM IT PAYS OFF.
01:58:36PM MINE PAYS OFF IN LESS THAN TEN YEARS.
01:58:38PM I GOT INVOLVED IN TEN HOUSE AT ONE TIME.
01:58:42PM AND MY SOLAR COST $14,400.
01:58:46PM SO WE CAN DO THAT OR WE CAN JUST WEIGHT AND SAY DON'T WORRY
01:58:53PM ABOUT IT.
01:58:53PM TOMORROW WILL COME.
01:58:54PM SUN WILL RISE.
01:58:55PM IT IS NEVER GOING TO RAIN.
01:58:58PM THE HURRICANES WON'T COME.
01:59:00PM EVERYTHING WILL BE PERFECT BECAUSE I LIVE HERE.
01:59:03PM THANK YOU FOR DREAMING.
01:59:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY LIKE TO MOVE THIS.
01:59:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THOUGHT OF THE WORD I WAS TRYING TO THINK
01:59:10PM ABOUT BEFORE "GREEN WASHING."
01:59:13PM EVERY TIME CITY COUNCIL VOTES AGAINST SOMETHING WITH
01:59:16PM ADMINISTRATION, ADMINISTRATION CALLS THE ACTIVISTS AND WE
01:59:21PM GET E-MAILS, AND HOW STUPID ARE YOU.
01:59:24PM HOW STUPID ARE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST SOLAR.
01:59:27PM THIS IS GREEN WASHING.
01:59:29PM MAYOR DID HAVE A PROGRESSIVE AND THE FIRST SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER
01:59:33PM AND THE BRILLIANT GUY THAT IS CAPABILITY AND PRESENTED A
01:59:36PM PLAN WITH 58, I THINK IT WAS, THINGS TO DO AND PRAISE BY THE
01:59:43PM MEDIA, AND THEY PUT HIM ON TOILET AND TAP FOR THREE YEARS AND
01:59:47PM THEY NEED TO PUT HIM ON THINGS LIKE THIS AND TALK OF A
01:59:49PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
01:59:50PM IF WE ARE IMPLEMENTING SOLAR IN ALL THE PARKS AND THIS IS ON
01:59:54PM LIST THAT IS IN ORDER AND WE ARE ONLY GOING TO DO A FEW A
01:59:58PM YEAR AND PART OF OUR LARGER PLAN, IT WOULD BE UNDERSTANDABLE
02:00:01PM FOR THE PUBLIC.
02:00:03PM OTHER THAN THAT IT LOOK LIKE GREEN WASHING.
02:00:05PM YOU CREATE A PAGE ON YOUR WEB SITE AND YOU SAY WE DID SOLAR
02:00:14PM AND YOU CREATED A SMALL THING ON YOUR PAGE.
02:00:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE THE ITEM?
02:00:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL MOVE IT TO SEE IT WHERE IT GOES.
02:00:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
02:00:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:00:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
02:00:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
02:00:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
02:00:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:00:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY RESPECTFUL NO.
02:00:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
02:00:36PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH CARLSON, HURTAK, CLENDENIN,
02:00:43PM VIERA AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
02:00:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHOEVER HAS THEIR PHONE NOT SILENCED IF
02:00:48PM YOU CAN SILENCE IT.
02:00:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT ME.
02:00:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT ME.
02:00:53PM MAYBE SOMEBODY LEFT --
02:00:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE ELECTRIC COMPANY CHECKING ON US.
02:00:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS TECO.
02:01:00PM ITEM NUMBER 49 WAS THE LAST ITEM YOU PULLED.
02:01:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:01:04PM ONE OF THE REASONS I PULLED THIS, WE ALL GOT AN E-MAIL FROM
02:01:08PM MISS COPESKY ABOUT THIS ITEM.
02:01:11PM WHEN WE ARRIVED IT IN 2023, THIS WOULD BE A $10.7 MILLION
02:01:16PM PROJECT.
02:01:17PM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS GIVING US $5.35 MILLION AND WE
02:01:26PM WERE GOING TO PROVIDE $4.7 MILLION.
02:01:29PM NOW $22 MILLION TO TAKE DOWN A SMALL SECTION OF ASHLEY.
02:01:33PM AND THEY ARE BELIEVING THAT THE CITY STAFF OR ADMINISTRATION
02:01:39PM IS SAYING THEY WANT TO TAKE $8 MILLION OF CRA FUNDING TO DO
02:01:44PM THAT.
02:01:44PM WE ALL KNOW WE DON'T HAVE $8 MILLION IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA TO
02:01:48PM SPEND ON THIS AND THEY WANT TO PUT $4 MILLION ON FUTURE
02:01:51PM DEBT.
02:01:52PM MOBILITY FEES AND CIT RENEWAL.
02:01:54PM AND QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD THIS PROBABLY
02:01:58PM ANYMORE.
02:01:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS WOULD RE-ESTABLISH OR CREATE NEW
02:02:04PM BLOCKS WITHIN THE NORTHERN PART OF DOWNTOWN HERE.
02:02:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS A GREAT IDEA.
02:02:13PM BUT WE ARE GETTING $5 MILLION FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND WE
02:02:15PM HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE $17 MILLION.
02:02:17PM I CAN'T CONSCIOUSLY VOTE FOR THAT.
02:02:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO" MY QUESTION, ESTABLISH COMMERCIAL BLOCKS --
02:02:24PM DOWNTOWN BLOCKS THAT DON'T EXIST BECAUSE OF THE HIGHWAY IS
02:02:27PM THERE.
02:02:28PM WHAT WOULD BE THE VALUE OF THE PARCELS SHOULD WE SELL THEM
02:02:31PM TO DEVELOPERS.
02:02:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE WERE ACTUALLY GETTING PARCELS FROM IT,
02:02:34PM IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
02:02:35PM WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT -- SLIVERS OF LAND BUT NOT
02:02:40PM ACTUAL PARCELS.
02:02:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE A SQUARE BLOCK.
02:02:43PM WE ARE NOT GETTING MULTIPLE BLOCKS TO SAY $10 MILLION
02:02:48PM APIECE.
02:02:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT PROJECT HAS TOO DO WITH THE ARMY-NAVY
02:02:52PM BUILDING AND IT IS OUR LAND ALREADY.
02:02:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WILL THIS AFFECT THE ARMY-NAVY PROJECT.
02:02:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD AFFECT THE RFQ -- RFP, I DON'T REMEMBER
02:03:04PM WHICH.
02:03:04PM THAT IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT.
02:03:07PM I DON'T WANT TO JUST RUBBER STAMP IT.
02:03:09PM I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WILL
02:03:12PM FIND $17 MILLION.
02:03:14PM AND, AGAIN, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IS GOING -- THAT THAT --
02:03:18PM THAT WILL COME BACK US TO IN ENOUGH TIME SINCE WE ALREADY
02:03:21PM HAVE A PLAN TO PUT SOMETHING THERE.
02:03:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO HAD THE -- I WILL GO CARLSON,
02:03:27PM CLENDENIN AND VIERA.
02:03:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
02:03:29PM I THINK THE TOTAL IS $22 MILLION?
02:03:33PM SO THAT IS -- THAT IS SEVEN TIMES WHAT THE MAYOR PUT IN THE
02:03:38PM BUDGET FOR ROAD REPAIR.
02:03:40PM AND I DON'T HEAR PEOPLE EVEN DOWNTOWN COMING TO ME SAYING WE
02:03:43PM NEED TO DO THIS ASHLEY PROJECT.
02:03:46PM WHAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TO ME EVERY DAY AND SAYING, ARE IS
02:03:50PM THE TRAFFIC -- WHY IS THE TRAFFIC JAMMED UP OVER THE CITY
02:03:52PM AND WHY ARE THE STREETS FALLING APART.
02:03:54PM WHY IS THE CITY NOT FIXING THE STREETS.
02:03:58PM AND WE NEED TO REALLOCATE MONEY.
02:03:59PM SECOND THING WE ARE HEARING, WE DON'T -- PEOPLE DON'T WANT
02:04:03PM THE CITY TO PUT ON ANY MORE DEBT.
02:04:05PM IF WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OUT DEBT, WE NEED TO USE IT VERY
02:04:09PM WISELY BECAUSE WE ARE BORROWING FROM OUR GRANDKIDS.
02:04:11PM THE OTHER THING IS -- WITH THIS AND THE WEST RIVERWALK, IT
02:04:16PM IS VERY PRESUMPTUOUS TO SAY WE WILL TAKE THE CRA MONEY.
02:04:19PM IN THE WEST RIVERWALK, THEY FINALLY GOT IT.
02:04:23PM AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PRIORITIES IN -- THAT WE CAN -- THAT WE
02:04:26PM CAN SPEND MONEY ON IF WE HAD IT.
02:04:28PM BUT I THINK THE CITY SHOULD KEEP THE CRA MONEY SEPARATE FROM
02:04:32PM THEIR -- FROM THEIR PET PROJECTS.
02:04:34PM WE NEED TO FOCUS ON POTHOLES AND FIXING TRAFFIC.
02:04:38PM YESTERDAY, AT ABOUT 5:00, I WENT FROM MY HOUSE NEAR GANDY TO
02:04:44PM YBOR CITY AND TOOK ME A WHILE.
02:04:46PM BAYSHORE WAS COMPLETELY BACKED UP.
02:04:48PM KENNEDY WAS BACKED UP.
02:04:50PM EVERY ROAD IN EVERY DIRECTION WAS BACKED UP, ALL THE WAY HOW
02:04:53PM THAT THE SOUTHERN PART OF TAMPA HEIGHTS, YBOR, EVERYTHING IS
02:04:56PM BACKED UP.
02:04:56PM WE NEED TO FIX THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT AND GET THIS CITY
02:04:59PM MOVING AGAIN.
02:05:00PM THANK YOU.
02:05:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN, VIERA AND COPESKY.
02:05:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I PUT THE MONEY AMOUNTS ON THE SCREEN SO YOU
02:05:09PM GO SEE.
02:05:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S GET THE OVERHEAD.
02:05:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I EXPLAINED IT TO YOU ALL.
02:05:13PM IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE MONEY ISN'T COMING FROM -- WHERE
02:05:16PM THEY WANT THE MONEY TO COME FROM AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IS
02:05:19PM SOMETHING WE WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON.
02:05:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF SOMEBODY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION IN
02:05:23PM LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE?
02:05:33PM >> I CAN SPEAK TO THE FUNDING AND THE POTENTIAL --
02:05:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE
02:05:38PM THIS --
02:05:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE BRANDON.
02:05:42PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
02:05:47PM I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GOT.
02:05:49PM I WILL SAY THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION HOW IT INTERACTS
02:05:53PM WITH THE ARMY-NAVY RFP AND THE REDEVELOPMENT THERE.
02:05:56PM THE NORTHERN PART OF THAT WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE ASHLE
02:06:01PM DRIVE PROJECT.
02:06:01PM BUT THE SOUTHERN PART DOES REMOVE THE SLIP LANE THAT GOES
02:06:05PM FROM ASHLEY TO TAMPA, THEREBY INCREASING THAT DEVELOPABLE
02:06:11PM LAND.
02:06:11PM THE PROJECT OVERALL DOES DROP THE EXISTS GRADE SEPARATION
02:06:16PM WITH THAT SLIP RAMP.
02:06:18PM GOES UNDERNEATH.
02:06:20PM IT INCLUDES TWO NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SQUARES OFF THOSE
02:06:24PM BLOCKS.
02:06:24PM AND CREATES A PATHWAY BASICALLY ACROSS THE NORTHERN PART OF
02:06:29PM DOWNTOWN TO THE RIVER.
02:06:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU BREAK THIS DOWN FOR US?
02:06:34PM WHAT PORTION -- BECAUSE I KNOW FDOT HAS GOT A LOT OF FUNDING
02:06:38PM HERE FOR THE ASHLEY RECONFIGURATION.
02:06:41PM WITHOUT US PASSING THIS, WHAT PORTION OF THAT PROJECT IS
02:06:44PM FUNDED WITHOUT US?
02:06:48PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I AM NOT SURE I KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
02:06:50PM SO THE GRANT ITSELF, THE FEDERAL DOLLARS BEING CONTRIBUTED
02:06:57PM TOWARD THIS IS ON THE SIDE AND THE MEMO.
02:07:00PM JUST ABOUT $5.4 MILLION.
02:07:04PM REMAINDER IS CITY/RCRA FUNDS.
02:07:10PM WE WILL CONTINUE TO ASK FDOT IF THEY HAVE ANY INTEREST IN
02:07:15PM SUPPLEMENTING THAT.
02:07:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ENTIRE TIME FOR THE LAST YEAR I HAVE BEEN
02:07:19PM HEARING OF THIS ASHLEY DRIVE RECONFIGURATION AND CONNECTING
02:07:23PM THE GRID.
02:07:24PM I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT MOST OF THAT FUNDING WAS FEDERAL
02:07:26PM AND STATE.
02:07:27PM IT IS NOT, IS WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME?
02:07:30PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: AT ON THIS PORTION.
02:07:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING, TO BREAK DOWN
02:07:35PM THE PROBLEMS FOR US.
02:07:36PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION A LITTLE
02:07:39PM BETTER, AND NORTH OF THIS SEGMENT THAT WE ARE COVERING WITH THE
02:07:42PM GRANT PROJECT, THE -- THE RAMP ON TO I-275, THERE IS SOME
02:07:47PM RECONFIGURATION OF THAT AND SCOTT STREET THAT WILL BE
02:07:50PM ON FDOT.
02:07:51PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR TOTAL COSTS WILL BE FOR IT.
02:07:54PM BUT THEY -- THAT IS A SEPARATE PROJECT BUT RELATED TO THE
02:07:57PM EFFORT TO ACCOMMODATE.
02:07:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I AM HEARING IS THIS ITEM NEEDS TO BE
02:08:02PM CONTINUED RATHER WE VOTE ON IT.
02:08:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD RATHER WE CONTINUE IT.
02:08:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
02:08:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD SUGGEST --
02:08:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO DO MARCH 27?
02:08:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THAT A GOOD DAY?
02:08:18PM LET US LOOK AT IT.
02:08:19PM SOMETHING TELLS ME THAT WAS REALLY A BUSY DAY.
02:08:22PM IT IS.
02:08:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: APRIL 3?
02:08:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: APRIL 3.
02:08:27PM I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 49 TO APRIL 3.
02:08:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
02:08:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:08:34PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:08:35PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, DO YOU WANT.
02:08:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:08:39PM I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, I
02:08:43PM WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING TO NOT PURSUE THIS FOR A
02:08:46PM NUMBER OF REASONS.
02:08:46PM I MEAN, WE MENTIONED OUR DOWNTOWN CRA.
02:08:49PM A LOT OF BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT GO 00% -- 100% FOR CRA TO DO
02:08:56PM FOR OTHER THINGS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TAKE GENERAL FUND
02:08:59PM AND MOVE THEM -- [DINGING]
02:09:02PM -- WHOSE PHONE IS THAT?
02:09:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ITS NOT MY PHONE.
02:09:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS SOMEBODY'S.
02:09:07PM THAT IS FUNNY.
02:09:08PM TO CONTINUE THAT WITH GENERAL DOLLARS THAT WE MADE
02:09:12PM CONSCIENTIOUS CHOICES WITH THE CRA.
02:09:15PM A TUNE OF $40 MILLION, $50 MILLION, $60 MILLION.
02:09:19PM AND THEN TO GO HERE, I JUST -- BUT WE NEED TO HAVE ALL THE
02:09:26PM INFORMATION.
02:09:26PM AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, GREAT ON PULLING THIS AND BEING A
02:09:29PM FISCAL WATCHDOG.
02:09:31PM THAT IS WONDERFUL.
02:09:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DON'T GIVE HER THE NAME WATCHDOG.
02:09:37PM GIVE HER OTHER NAME.
02:09:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: HAWK.
02:09:47PM I AM SORRY.
02:09:49PM I ONCE TOLD -- WHO WAS IT -- THE MAYOR.
02:09:51PM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING.
02:09:53PM I SAID JUST AS LONG AS YOU KNOW I MEAN WELL.
02:09:55PM I MEAN WELL, THAT'S ALL.
02:09:57PM BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.
02:09:58PM BUT, YES, I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS
02:10:03PM INCLUDING THE CHECK ON THE FEDERAL RELATIONSHIP, WHAT WE ARE
02:10:06PM GIVING UP AND SO FORTH WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE.
02:10:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
02:10:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDER STAFF REPORT AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
02:10:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:10:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL VOTE NO RATHER THAN HAVE IT HAPPEN
02:10:21PM AGAIN.
02:10:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:10:23PM ANY OPPOSED.
02:10:25PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
02:10:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES THE PULLED ITEMS.
02:10:34PM 65, GASWORX AGREEMENT HERE, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
02:10:41PM AND MR. MASSEY IS HERE.
02:10:43PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:10:45PM MORRIS MASSEY.
02:10:48PM PROPOSED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE GASWORX, CITY OF TAMPA AND
02:10:54PM THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
02:10:55PM TO FUND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THREE
02:10:58PM SEPARATE CRAs.
02:10:59PM CENTRAL PARK, YBOR 2, AND DOWNTOWN.
02:11:04PM AND YOU ALL VOTED ON THIS CONCEPTUALLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO AS
02:11:10PM A CRA AND VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SUBJECT TO THE
02:11:13PM NEXT OF THIS AGREEMENT.
02:11:14PM THIS AGREEMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR
02:11:18PM YOUR CRA MEETING LAST WEEK.
02:11:19PM AS YOU ALL KNOW IT WAS CONTINUED, I THINK, TO ADDRESS SOME
02:11:23PM CONCERNS OF MR. CARLSON'S.
02:11:25PM MR. TYLER HUDSON IS HERE.
02:11:26PM HE IS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE DEVELOPER.
02:11:29PM THEY MADE SOME CHANGES TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS I REVIEWED
02:11:35PM THEM.
02:11:36PM YOUR CRA ATTORNEY REVIEWED THEM.
02:11:40PM IN OUR OPINION, THEY ARE NOT SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
02:11:43PM WE OFFER A NUMBER OF CHOICES.
02:11:45PM APPROVE THE AGREEMENT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THE AGENDA.
02:11:49PM APPROVE IT WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
02:11:52PM MR. HUDSON WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES AND WHY THEY
02:11:55PM WERE MADE.
02:11:55PM OR IF YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, IT IS CRA.
02:12:02PM UNTIL YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL AFTER YOU MEET IN
02:12:04PM MARCH AS THE CRA.
02:12:06PM THESE ARE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
02:12:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:12:10PM THANK YOU, SIR.
02:12:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: TYLER CAN SPEAK FOR CLIENT, BUT THE CAPITAL
02:12:19PM MARKETS ARE VERY TIGHT RIGHT NOW AND SENSITIVITY OF TIMING
02:12:21PM ON DEALS.
02:12:22PM I WILL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.
02:12:23PM BUT I WANTED TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK
02:12:27PM OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING THAT THE ISSUE, AS HE SAID, A WEEK
02:12:30PM OR TWO AGO WAS BECAUSE OF ME AND THE REASON THERE WAS SOME
02:12:37PM LANGUAGE THAT NEEDED TO BE CLEANED UP INSIDE IT.
02:12:40PM AND THANKS TO TYLER, MORRIS AND OTHERS FOR GETTING THAT
02:12:43PM DONE.
02:12:44PM IN THE PAST, THE CITY THROUGH THE CRA HAD SUBSIDIZED
02:12:49PM DEVELOPERS.
02:12:49PM I AM AGAINST SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPERS.
02:12:52PM EVEN WHEN THE CITY WAS PAYING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THEY WOULD
02:12:58PM PAY A DEVELOPER.
02:12:59PM AND IT GAVE THE IMPRESSION TO THE PUBLIC THAT IT WAS
02:13:02PM SUBSIDIZING THE DEVELOPER.
02:13:04PM AND ALTHOUGH SOMEONE COULD PULL PUBLIC RECORDS, THERE WASN'T
02:13:07PM A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY ONCE THE MONEY GOES TO THE
02:13:10PM DEVELOPER.
02:13:11PM SO IN THIS CASE, THE -- THE DEVELOPER -- FIRST OF ALL
02:13:19PM COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT CRA PAID FOR WAS
02:13:23PM FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:13:23PM INFRASTRUCTURE BY THE TIME IT IS DONE WILL BE OWNED BY THE
02:13:27PM CITY.
02:13:27PM AND SO IT'S PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ORDINARILY
02:13:31PM OWN AND BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ON THE PROPERTY THAT THIS
02:13:34PM INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE ROADS, SEWER AND THINGS NEED TO
02:13:37PM BE DONE.
02:13:37PM BUT WHAT THEY DID WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE IN CRA AND THE
02:13:42PM CITY HAS DONE IN THE PAST, THEY CREATED A CDD.
02:13:45PM OPINION.
02:13:49PM A CDD IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS SUBJECT TO SUNSHINE AND PUBLIC
02:13:54PM RECORDS AND THEY HAVE PUBLIC OVERSIGHT AND THE CDD WITH
02:13:59PM DETERMINE WHO TO ENGAGE TO IMPLEMENT ANY OF THIS.
02:14:02PM THIS IS REALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER DEALS THAT HAVE BEEN
02:14:04PM PUT TOGETHER IN THE PAST.
02:14:05PM AND THE PROBLEM WITH THE LONG A WEEK AGO THAT THEY STILL
02:14:14PM HAVE THE DEVELOPER IN IT.
02:14:15PM AND THIS IS A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY, THE CRA AND THE CDD
02:14:20PM AND NOT WITH A DEVELOPER.
02:14:21PM THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH IS REFERENCED IN
02:14:23PM THIS.
02:14:24PM BUT -- BUT THE -- THE -- THE CITY AND THE CRA DIRECTLY ONLY
02:14:29PM -- ON THIS FUNDING ONLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CDD.
02:14:33PM AND SO WHAT I ASKED THEM TO DO IS TAKE OUT THE REFERENCES TO
02:14:37PM THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER OTHER THAN THE -- THAN
02:14:39PM THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS NOT A PARTY OF THE FUNDING.
02:14:43PM FUNDING GO GOES TO THE CDD AND THE CDD THROUGH A PUBLIC
02:14:48PM PROCESS DECIDES WHERE THE MONEY WILL GO.
02:14:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:14:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MASSEY.
02:14:55PM MY CONCERN, THIS SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT HAD THE CRA
02:14:59PM SHOULD DEAL WITH FIRST.
02:15:00PM CAN YOU SPEAK IF IT REALLY MATTERS.
02:15:03PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IN MY OPINION, IT DOES NOT REALLY MATTER.
02:15:06PM A TRI-PARTY AGREEMENT.
02:15:07PM YOU AS CITY COUNCIL MUST APPROVE IT.
02:15:10PM THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN IT THAT ARE COMMITMENTS OF THE
02:15:13PM DEVELOPER TO THE CITY OR THE CITY IS AGREEING TO CERTAIN
02:15:17PM THINGS.
02:15:17PM FOR INSTANCE, WHILE MR. CARLSON IS CORRECT, THE CDD IS
02:15:22PM PERFORMING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
02:15:24PM THIS ALL ARISES OUT OF A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT MR. HUDSON'S
02:15:28PM CLIENT, THE DEVELOPER, IS DOING AND ARISE OUT OF THE
02:15:32PM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER.
02:15:34PM A NEXUS BETWEEN THE TWO AND CITY NEEDS TO MAKE THEIR THAT
02:15:40PM THIS IS HAPPENING.
02:15:41PM CONSIDERED A REVENUE BOND BECAUSE A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT.
02:15:44PM UNDER THE STATUTE, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY, THE LOCAL
02:15:48PM GOVERNMENT, MUST AUTHORIZE THE CRA FOR CONTRACTUAL.
02:15:53PM IN MY OPINION, THE ORDER DOES NOT MATTER BUT YOU HAVE TO
02:15:57PM APPROVE IT AS CITY COUNCIL AND CRA.
02:16:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION.
02:16:02PM THAT IS ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.
02:16:04PM THAT WAS MY BIG CONCERN.
02:16:06PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:16:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN.
02:16:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SUCH A CONSEQUENTIAL PROJECT FOR THE CITY
02:16:11PM OF TAMPA.
02:16:11PM AS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID ARE, THIS AGREEMENT PROVIDES
02:16:15PM WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY WILL NORMALLY BE
02:16:17PM PROVIDED ANYWAY AND RETURN ON THIS INVESTMENT WILL BE
02:16:21PM EXPONENTIAL.
02:16:22PM IF WE ARE READY, I WOULD SAY MOVE ITEM 65.
02:16:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
02:16:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:16:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO CHIME IN.
02:16:31PM YOU HAVE A NUMBER $14 MILLION OR $15 MILLION IF BUT --
02:16:36PM 14.7 OR 14.9.
02:16:39PM YOU WOULD INVEST IN YOURSELF OR NOT.
02:16:42PM IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING THERE, AND
02:16:45PM WHAT YOU ARE COLLECTING YESTERYEARS?
02:16:49PM NOTICE I SAID YESTERYEARS, BECAUSE IT WAS VACANT FOR A LONG
02:16:52PM TIME.
02:16:53PM AND WHAT YOU ARE COLLECTING NOW AND WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO
02:16:56PM COLLECT WHEN ALL THAT IS COMPLETED AND DONE.
02:16:58PM THE CRAs DO NOT LAST FOREVER.
02:17:01PM THAT IS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND I AM NOT COMPARING THIS TO
02:17:04PM A CRA.
02:17:05PM MOST IS 30 YEARS.
02:17:06PM SOME LAST LESS.
02:17:10PM WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU LAST LESS, ALL OF THIS GOES WHERE?
02:17:15PM TO THIS GENERAL FUND.
02:17:16PM WHAT DO YOU HAVE?
02:17:17PM A PART OF THE CITY THAT WAS NEVER LIKE THAT BEFORE.
02:17:19PM I RIGHT NOW -- SOMETIMES I WALK AROUND THE CHANNELSIDE AND
02:17:23PM INTO WATER STREET AND ALL THAT, AND I LOOK AROUND AND SAY
02:17:27PM HOW THE HELL DID THIS HAPPEN.
02:17:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AMAZING.
02:17:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT IS JUST AMAZING TO ME.
02:17:32PM I AM LOOKING AT EIGHT OR NINE YEARS YET.
02:17:36PM THINKING IF I AM NO LONGER HERE NOT IF I AM DYING.
02:17:39PM I WILL JUST BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
02:17:41PM I WILL CLARIFY THAT.
02:17:42PM THIS CITY HAVE AGREE AMOUNT OF CASHOLA.
02:17:47PM MONEY IN OTHER ENGLISH LANGUAGE, AND WILL HAVE SOMETHING
02:17:50PM THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM EVERYWHERE ELSE AND DOESN'T NEED
02:17:56PM MUCH MAINTENANCE AND DONE RIGHT WITH THE WATER GOING UNDER
02:17:58PM AND FEEDING THE TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS I UNDERSTAND
02:18:02PM IT.
02:18:02PM YOU WILL HAVE AN AREA THAT IS DIFFERENT, CLEAN, BEAUTIFUL,
02:18:05PM AND THE MONEY ALL GOES TO YOU.
02:18:07PM WHO WINS?
02:18:10PM EVERYBODY.
02:18:10PM AND THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
02:18:13PM I DON'T MIND INVESTING MONEY IF AT THE END OF THE DAY,
02:18:17PM SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, YOU ARE GOING TO GET IT ALL BACK,
02:18:21PM PLUS HAVE IT ALL DEVELOPED IN AT THAT WAY THAT YOU,
02:18:25PM YOURSELF, COULD NEVER HAVE AFFORDED TO DO IT.
02:18:28PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:18:32PM AND SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:18:35PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:18:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:18:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:18:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:18:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:18:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:18:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:18:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:18:43PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:18:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, ITEM 66.
02:18:47PM HELLO.
02:18:57PM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.
02:19:00PM BRAD BAIRD, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:19:03PM A VERBAL REPORT ON THE WASTEWATER ENERGY PLAN AND COST
02:19:07PM COMPARISONS.
02:19:08PM I HAVE ALSO WITH ME DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE, LARRY WASHINGTON,
02:19:12PM TO SUPPORT.
02:19:13PM I WILL START WITH THREE QUICK IMPORTANT DATES ON THE PROJECT
02:19:20PM TIMELINE.
02:19:20PM ON JUNE 18 LAST YEAR, WE COMPLETED THE McKAY BAY WASTE
02:19:27PM ENERGY FACILITY OUTAGE.
02:19:29PM AND STARTED THE COMMISSION.
02:19:33PM AUGUST 30, SOUTHWEST STOPPED DIVERTING GARBAGE TO THE LAND
02:19:38PM FILL.
02:19:39PM AS YOU KNOW THAT WAS COSTING US A LOT OF MONEY.
02:19:41PM AND THEN OUR DATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION WAS LAST MONTH,
02:19:46PM JANUARY 7, 2025.
02:19:48PM SO THAT PUTS IN CONTEXT TIMELINE TO GET IN DONE.
02:19:55PM PLEASED TO REPORT THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT CAME IN UNDER THE
02:20:00PM BUDGET OF $99,931,279 WAS THE EXACT BUDGET, THE TOTAL THE
02:20:09PM THREE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICES.
02:20:12PM THE MOTION ASKED US TO COMPARE THE ORIGINAL PROJECTED COST
02:20:15PM AND WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR OFFERS AT THE TIME.
02:20:18PM IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR CONTRACT
02:20:22PM OPERATOR WHEELABRATOR HAD AN OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE
02:20:28PM AGREEMENT.
02:20:28PM WE OWN THE FACILITY, BUT THEY WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY
02:20:32PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS JUST MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY.
02:20:39PM SO INSTEAD WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS REPORT ON THE FIVE
02:20:45PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED PUBLICLY
02:20:52PM -- ACTUALLY FOUR OF THE FIVE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED PUBLICLY.
02:20:55PM I THINK YOU WILL FIND THESE PRICES AND TIME FRAMES
02:20:58PM INTERESTING.
02:20:58PM SO FIRST IN MAY OF 2019, WE CONDUCTED A FEASIBILITY STUDY
02:21:08PM WHETHER TO TAKE OPEN THE PLANT WHETHER TO NEGOTIATE NEW
02:21:12PM CONTRACT WITH WHEELABRATOR TO GO WITH THE FURTHER CONTRACT
02:21:17PM OPERATOR COVANTA.
02:21:19PM AS PART OF THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY, WE DETERMINED THAT THE
02:21:24PM ACTION FOR US TO TAKE IT OVER, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE
02:21:30PM THE PLANT FOR ABOUT FIVE MILLION LESS THAN A CONTRACT
02:21:33PM OPERATOR AND THE PLAN WAS TO PROVIDE THAT BACK INTO THE
02:21:39PM FACILITY.
02:21:40PM AND I DID REPORT THAT TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME AND THE
02:21:44PM FIRST CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND PART OF THAT FEASIBILITY
02:21:49PM PLAN TO GO FOR $152 MILLION.
02:21:52PM AND IT WAS TO BE CASH FUNDED IF $5 MILLION A YEAR OVER 30
02:21:57PM YEARS.
02:21:57PM OBVIOUSLY, WE DID NOT END UP USING THAT ONE.
02:22:02PM THE SECOND OPTION IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS AS 12-YEAR
02:22:07PM PLAN FOR $81 MILLION.
02:22:12PM AND THIS IS A COMBINATION OF CASH AND BONDING.
02:22:18PM FAST FORWARD TO THE FOLLOWING NEAR OCTOBER OF 2019, WE
02:22:21PM PREPARED A TRANSITION PLAN TO TAKE OVER THE PLAN.
02:22:25PM AND THE CITY OF TAMPA OPERATED IT.
02:22:30PM AND MADE THAT DECISION AND PART OF THE TRANSITION, $11
02:22:38PM MILLION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR ROUGHLY $61.5 MILLION.
02:22:42PM THAT WAS COMMUNICATED AT THE TIME AS WELL TO THE PUBLIC.
02:22:52PM IN 20622, DID AN INTERNAL UPDATE, $131.3 MILLION OVER TEN
02:23:04PM YEARS FROM 2023 TO 2032.
02:23:07PM THAT COMPLETE PLAN WAS NOT COMMUNICATED PUBLICLY, THE
02:23:11PM FOLLOWING MONTH, MISS DUNCAN PRESENTED IN DECEMBER 2022, THE
02:23:17PM FIRST HALF OF THAT PLAN, THE FIVE YEARS.
02:23:19PM SHE HAD A SLIDE ON THAT AND DETAILED YEAR BY YEAR WHAT WAS
02:23:25PM TO BE SPENT.
02:23:26PM AND THAT WAS $91.5 MILLION.
02:23:30PM AND IT WAS A CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION IN DECEMBER OF 2022.
02:23:34PM AND THEN WHERE WE ENDED UP IS THE NUMBER I JUST SAID A FEW
02:23:38PM MINUTES AGO, WHICH WAS $99.9 MILLION.
02:23:43PM SO AS YOU CAN SEE, BY THOSE DIFFERING TIME FRAMES, DIFFERING
02:23:53PM COSTS, WE HAVE APPLE AND ORANGES ON ALL FIVE OF THOSE PLANS.
02:23:57PM DIFFERENT TIME FRAMES.
02:23:59PM DIFFERENT COSTS.
02:24:01PM BUT I WILL SAY THAT LAST ONE WAS PRESENTED BY MISS DUNCAN AT
02:24:07PM $91 MILLION.
02:24:08PM INCLUDED ALMOST ALL YOU HAVE WHAT WE DID IN THE RETROFIT.
02:24:12PM SO WE CAME -- YOU KNOW, SCRUNCHED IT DOWN FOR A ONE-YEAR
02:24:18PM SPEND, DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT.
02:24:20PM AND IT WENT FROM $91.5 MILLION TO $99.9 MILLION.
02:24:26PM NOT TOO BAD OF A JUMP.
02:24:28PM BUT I WANT TO -- I HAVE JUST TWO EXAMPLES.
02:24:32PM I HAVE MANY MORE, BUT I WANTED TO USE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES
02:24:36PM OF HOW THIS PROJECT MORPHED THROUGH -- THROUGH THE YEARS.
02:24:41PM SO PROBABLY THE BEST EXAMPLE IS THE ASH HANDLING SYSTEM.
02:24:45PM IN THOSE ORIGINAL OR EARLY CIP PLANS, WE ONLY -- WE ONLY
02:24:52PM PLAN TO REPAIR THE EXISTING ASH BUILDING AND THEN REPLACE
02:24:56PM THE FOUR EXPELLERS AND THE MAIN CONVEYER IS OVER A FIVE-YEAR
02:25:02PM PERIOD.
02:25:02PM SO JUST REPAIR THE FLOOR AND OTHER CONCRETE IN THAT ASH
02:25:08PM BUILDING.
02:25:08PM AND, OF COURSE, REPAIR THE STRUCTURE OF THE ROOF.
02:25:11PM WELL, AS -- AS WE -- WE MOVE FORWARD IN TIME, WE DECIDED TO
02:25:18PM REPLACE THE ENTIRE ASH BUILDING.
02:25:19PM WHEN CPI ENGINEER DID THE FULL REVIEW OF THE ASH BUILDING
02:25:25PM AND DETERMINED IT WAS BEYOND REPAIR.
02:25:27PM AND BEYOND ITS USEFUL LIFE.
02:25:29PM SO WE -- WE DID DO THAT.
02:25:32PM WE NOT ONLY REPLACED THE ASH BUILDING, BUT WE REPLACED THOSE
02:25:36PM FOUR EXPELLERS AND THE VIBRATORY CONVEYOR IN THE RETROFIT
02:25:45PM PROJECT.
02:25:45PM THAT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION.
02:25:47PM I DON'T THINK THAT THE OLD ASH BUILDING WOULD HAVE MADE IT
02:25:50PM THROUGH ANY ONE OF THOSE TWO STORMS.
02:25:52PM ANOTHER EXAMPLE -- ANOTHER VERY GOOD EXAMPLE IS WE
02:25:59PM ORIGINALLY PLANNED ON LINING THE EXISTING UNDERGROUND
02:26:01PM PIPELINE AND WATER CIRCULATION SYSTEM.
02:26:03PM ORIGINALLY WE YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOING TO IN THE IF ONE MORE
02:26:11PM TIME.
02:26:12PM LINE IT.
02:26:12PM WHEN IT CAME BACK, WE INSPECTED AS PART OF THE CCPI TASK
02:26:18PM NUMBER ONE.
02:26:19PM IT WAS NOT IN GOOD CONDITION.
02:26:20PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN BETWEEN THOSE TIMES, IT DEVELOPED A
02:26:23PM LEAK.
02:26:23PM AND ALSO, IT HAD MANY MORE BENDS THAN WE THOUGHT IT DID.
02:26:28PM NOT AS-BUILTS FROM WHEELABRATOR AT THE TIME AND DID NOT
02:26:34PM INSTALL A LINER IN THAT PIPELINE.
02:26:36PM INSTEAD WE BUILT -- IF YOU GO OUT THERE TODAY, YOU CAN SEE
02:26:39PM IT A BIG OVERGROUND -- OVERHEAD LARGE TRUSS SYSTEM.
02:26:48PM WE UPSIZED THE PIPE JUST TO BE SAFE.
02:26:50PM ONE PIPE SIZE.
02:26:52PM AND THAT CAUSED WHITE A BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE WERE GOING
02:26:55PM TO DO ORIGINALLY.
02:26:56PM THOSE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES.
02:26:58PM FINALLY, WE HAVEN'T FINISHED NEGOTIATIONS.
02:27:02PM IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE, BUT WE STILL HAVE NEGOTIATIONS
02:27:06PM ONGOING, BUT WE ESTIMATED THAT WE SHOULD END UP BETWEEN 98
02:27:12PM AND $99 MILLION.
02:27:14PM UNDER THAT 99.9 MILLION.
02:27:17PM THAT LEAVES ENOUGH MONEY TO DIRECTLY PURCHASE THE SIX
02:27:20PM TRANSFORMERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY UNDER THIS CONTRACT.
02:27:23PM AND DIRECTLY PURCHASE, WE -- WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAX.
02:27:28PM YOU KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A MARK-UP ON THAT.
02:27:32PM SO WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT AND REMAIN UNDER BUDGET.
02:27:36PM AND I WILL -- I WILL STOP THERE WITH THE CAPITAL.
02:27:39PM AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:27:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:27:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT
02:27:50PM HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE AND EVERYTHING.
02:27:52PM SO THE $62 MILLION IN THE BEGINNING.
02:27:59PM THE $62 MILLION FROM THE ORIGINAL DIAGNOSTIC THAT THE
02:28:04PM CONSULTANTS DID, WAS THAT TEN YEARS OR FIVE YEARS?
02:28:10PM >>BRAD BAIRD: IN THE TRANSITION PLAN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
02:28:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: ASSESSMENT THAT THE CONSULTANTS DID BEFORE
02:28:16PM WE TOOK IT OVER.
02:28:17PM >>BRAD BAIRD: 61.5.
02:28:20PM IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
02:28:22PM YES.
02:28:22PM THAT WAS 11 YEARS FROM 2020 TO 2030.
02:28:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND SO, THE 91.5, AND THE 99.9.
02:28:36PM THAT IS FOR FIVE YEARS, RIGHT?
02:28:38PM >>BRAD BAIRD: NO -- YEAH, THE 99.5 WAS FOR FIVE YEARS AND
02:28:44PM THE RETROFIT ENDED UP A YEAR.
02:28:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE 99.9, DOES THAT COVER EVERYTHING THAT
02:28:50PM WAS INCLUDED IN THAT CONSULTANT PLAN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY 62?
02:28:54PM OR -- SO THEIR ORIGINAL IDEA WAS TO DO ALL THAT OVER 11
02:28:57PM YEARS.
02:28:57PM DO WE DO ALL THAT IN ONE YEAR, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
02:29:06PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, IT INCLUDE -- NOT EVERYTHING MATCHES
02:29:09PM PERFECTLY BUT WE HAVE SMALLER PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.
02:29:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT WAS THE REMAINDER, $150 WAS THE
02:29:18PM TEN-YEAR PROPOSAL, 130.
02:29:20PM >>BRAD BAIRD: WHICH ONE.
02:29:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE TEN-YEAR PROPOSAL WAS 130?
02:29:25PM >> THE TEN YEAR INTERNALLY BEFORE THAT JEAN PRESENTED WAS
02:29:29PM $131 MILLION.
02:29:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE THINGS IN THE $31 MILLION.
02:29:35PM >>BRAD BAIRD: IN THE 131 MILLION.
02:29:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: EVERYTHING INCLUDED IN THE 131 MILLION IS
02:29:41PM NOW DONE FOR 99.9.
02:29:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: EVERYTHING THAT WAS PROJECTED IN THE 131
02:29:49PM MILLION IS DONE IN 99.9?
02:29:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD: IT HAS NOT.
02:29:53PM WE STILL HAVE QUITE OTHER THINGS TO DO OVER AND ABOVE THE
02:29:58PM 99.9.
02:29:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: BESIDES THE TRANSFORMERS, HOW MUCH MONEY DO
02:30:02PM YOU NEED TO FINISH THAT?
02:30:04PM >>BRAD BAIRD: I WOULD SAYS IT PROBABLY -- I DON'T KNOW
02:30:07PM EXACTLY, COUNCILMAN, BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT IT IS ABOUT $31
02:30:13PM MILLION ESCALATED TO TODAY'S PRICES.
02:30:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WILL MAKE US WITH THE ORIGINAL
02:30:21PM 11-YEAR PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING.
02:30:23PM HOW MUCH IS THE THREE TRANSFORMERS THAT YOU SAY?
02:30:27PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THE TRANSFORMERS CAN BE PURCHASED FOR LESS
02:30:30PM THAN A MILLION AND A HALF.
02:30:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: OH, TOTAL, ALL THREE?
02:30:35PM >>BRAD BAIRD: HOPING FOR $2 MILLION TO PURCHASE THOSE
02:30:37PM TRANSFORMERS.
02:30:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: INCLUDED IN THE $131 MILLION BUDGET?
02:30:42PM >>BRAD BAIRD: OH, YES.
02:30:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS AS SOON AS GREAT, THANK YOU.
02:30:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:30:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WAS A TRAGEDY WAITING TO HAPPEN.
02:30:50PM THANK GOD IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
02:30:52PM WE HAD, WHAT, ONE GENERATOR.
02:30:54PM >>BRAD BAIRD: ONE GENERATOR.
02:30:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE LIFESPAN OF THAT GENERATOR?
02:31:00PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THE LAST TIME IT WAS OVERHAULED, NINE AND A
02:31:05PM HALF YEARS AGO NINE AND A HALF YEARS AGO LAST YEAR.
02:31:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY DON'T LAST FOR EVER.
02:31:12PM HOW MANY REPLACEMENTS.
02:31:14PM >>BRAD BAIRD: ZERO.
02:31:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE BOUGHT A NEW ONE?
02:31:19PM >>BRAD BAIRD: NO, NO, STATED THE OLD ONE.
02:31:22PM AND THAT WAS THE DRIVER OF THIS PROBABLY.
02:31:24PM SO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO OVERTURN AND REHABILITATE A GENERATOR
02:31:28PM EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
02:31:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT HAD GONE HOW LONG?
02:31:36PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THEY CAN LOST 40 TO 50 YEARS.
02:31:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE IS THE THING.
02:31:40PM IF THAT PLANT WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN.
02:31:43PM WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ADDITIONAL COST IF AVAILABLE TO
02:31:46PM HAUL ALL THE WAY TO THE COUNTY LANDFILL AN HOUR OR SO.
02:31:50PM >>BRAD BAIRD: $40 MILLION A YEAR FOR DISPOSAL AND HAULING
02:31:55PM COST.
02:31:55PM I DO WANT TO MAKE A POINT, A BUSINESS -- A CURRENT BUSINESS
02:31:59PM CASE POINT.
02:32:00PM WE BUILT IT -- OR WE RETROFIT IT FOR $100 MILLION.
02:32:04PM WE -- IN 2023, OUR ELECTRICAL REVENUE WAS $15 MILLION.
02:32:10PM $15.3 MILLION.
02:32:12PM IF YOU DO THAT MATH, TAKE THAT $85 MILLION NET.
02:32:17PM AND DIVIDE IT BY $40 MILLION.
02:32:19PM YOU ARE TALKING OF A 2.1 YEAR PAYBACK.
02:32:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BETTER THAN MY SOLAR SYSTEM.
02:32:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE ARE ALREADY COLLECTING THAT, AREN'T WE?
02:32:36PM WE ARE NOT GETTING NEW POWER GENERATION
02:32:38PM WE WERE COLLECTING THAT BEFORE.
02:32:40PM >>BRAD BAIRD: WE WERE COLLECTING IT AGAIN.
02:32:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS CASE WHY WE TOOK IT
02:32:45PM OVER.
02:32:45PM COST NET OF THAT.
02:32:46PM ORIGINALLY $25 MILLION A YEAR, NET $6 MILLION OR SOMETHING
02:32:49PM LIKE THAT.
02:32:50PM I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER.
02:32:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS CASE.
02:32:54PM AND YOU HEARD ME MENTION ON THAT VERY FIRST PROPOSAL IN
02:32:58PM 2018, SPENDING $5 MILLION A YEAR FROM OUR SAVINGS.
02:33:01PM SO THAT WAS ALSO A PART OF THAT ORIGINAL BUSINESS CASE.
02:33:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:33:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND IF I MAY CONTINUE.
02:33:09PM IF I RECALL -- SOMETIMES MY MEMORY IS A LITTLE WHACKO, BUT I
02:33:13PM THINK THAT PLANT IS PRODUCING ENOUGH ELECTRICITY FOR 15,000
02:33:18PM HOMES ON A DAILY BASIS.
02:33:19PM >>BRAD BAIRD: I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT.
02:33:21PM >> 15?
02:33:24PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
02:33:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAD A DEAL WAY BACK ANOTHER TWO
02:33:30PM COUNCILS OR THREE TO BUY TECO.
02:33:33PM EVERYTHING.
02:33:33PM TRANSMISSION LINES AND WORK IT OUT.
02:33:35PM SUCH A BAD DEAL, THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS BEEFED ABOUT IT.
02:33:40PM WE THOUGHT IT WAS AS GOOD DEAL.
02:33:41PM SOME DIDN'T.
02:33:42PM WENT TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION AND THEY TOLD US WE
02:33:45PM COULDN'T DO IT.
02:33:46PM WE HAD TO SELL IT TO AN ELECTRIC -- THE ENERGY FOR LESS
02:33:52PM MONEY THAN TECO WAS GOING TO PAY US, BECAUSE COUNCIL TURNED
02:33:56PM DOWN IS A DEAL THAT WAS.
02:36:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE CASH FLOW AND WHATEVER THE INTEREST
02:36:34PM IS.
02:36:34PM I ASSUME THAT IS BEING APPLIED TO THE COST.
02:36:37PM SO HOW MUCH HAS THE OPERATING COST GONE UP.
02:36:39PM AND HAS THE -- HAS THE REVENUE STAYED THE SAME.
02:36:43PM AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION CONNECTED TO THAT IS WE HAVEN'T
02:36:46PM ADDED ANY NEW CAPACITY, RIGHT?
02:36:49PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S CORRECT.
02:36:49PM I WILL LET LARRY COME UP ON CAPACITY, AND, WHY YES, WE HAVE
02:36:54PM DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THE O&M PRO FORMA OVER THE LAST COUPLE
02:37:00PM OF WEEKS AND I WILL USE 23 FOR WORK -- YOU KNOW WE --
02:38:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU GET IT.
02:38:15PM NOW I AM EXCITED.
02:38:18PM SO, ARE WE -- OUR WASTE ENERGY STAFF AND OUR ENGINEER OF
02:38:27PM RECORD PUT TOGETHER A DETAILED OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE PRO
02:38:31PM FORMA.
02:38:31PM IT WAS TWO PARTS.
02:38:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD: FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, THE RETROFIT YEAR
02:38:55PM WAS TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE PLANT ON A LOWER COST BASIS
02:39:00PM THAN THE CITY FOR FOUR OF NOSE YEARS.
02:39:03PM WHILE THE CITY WAS ESTIMATED TO RUN IT ON A LOWER COST BASIS
02:39:09PM FOR 25 OF THOSE YEARS.
02:39:11PM SO THAT -- AND THE SAVINGS RANGES ON THOSE 25 YEARS FROM $3
02:39:18PM MILLION TO 6.6.
02:39:20PM PRETTY CLOSE TO THE $5 MILLION WE ESTIMATED BACK IN 2018.
02:39:23PM SO I WAS PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
02:39:25PM AND ADDITIONALLY ON TOP OF THAT, WE CONTROL HOW THE FACILITY
02:39:29PM CAN BE OPERATED AND MAINTAINED MUCH BETTER.
02:39:32PM SO BASICALLY, IN CONCLUSION ,WE MADE THE DECISION.
02:39:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU TELL US GOING FORWARD THE OPERATING
02:39:46PM COS OF THE INCOME?
02:39:46PM >>BRAD BAIRD: WE DO HAVE THAT.
02:39:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU E-MAIL THIS TO US TOO, PLEASE?
02:39:54PM >>BRAD BAIRD: PROBABLY WILL BE BETTER IF WE SENT THE WHOLE
02:39:57PM PRO FORMA TO CITY COUNCIL.
02:39:58PM IT IS A LOT OF NUMBERS AND WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
02:40:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU TELL US TOP LINE WHAT IS THE TOTAL
02:40:05PM COST PROJECTED FOR THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR AND WHAT THE
02:40:08PM TOTAL REVENUE IS PROJECTED?
02:40:12PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.
02:40:13PM SO FOR 2025, OPERATE CAN EXPENSES ARE EXPECTED TO BE 25.7
02:40:22PM MILLION.
02:40:22PM FOR 2026 --
02:40:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOES THAT INCLUDE INTEREST OR NO?
02:40:30PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THESE DO INCLUDE ESCALATIONS AS THEY GO OUT.
02:40:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY INCLUDE THE INTEREST OF THE BONDING?
02:40:38PM >>BRAD BAIRD: LET ME SEE HERE.
02:40:40PM THAT IS THE PLANT OPERATING COSTS.
02:40:42PM AND THEN WE ADD IN I AM NOT PICKING IT ON RIGHT AWAY, BUT
02:40:51PM ADD IN THE BONDING COST LATER IN THIS PRO FORMA.
02:40:53PM IN IN 2026, IT IS $20.6 MILLION IN EXPENSES.
02:40:59PM AND YOU ASKED OF CAPACITY, SO --
02:41:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
02:41:05PM >>LARRY WASHINTON: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:41:07PM LARRY WASHINGTON, DIRECTOR OF THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT.
02:41:10PM IN TERMS OF CAPACITY, WE DON'T HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE.
02:41:13PM WE HAD A LIABILITY ISSUE AND WENT FORWARD WITH THE WASTE
02:41:16PM ENERGY OF RETROFIT.
02:41:18PM I WILL TAKE IT BACK SOME.
02:41:19PM BACK IN 2017, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS HAPHAZARDLY
02:41:25PM STUMBLE ON OUR.
02:41:27PM IN 2017, WE DID A COMPOSITION STUDY AND WITH THAT BEING SAID
02:41:31PM WE NOTICED AND RESULTS WERE 17% OF THE WAY IT WAS GOING
02:41:34PM THROUGH THE FACILITY WAS YARD WASTE.
02:41:37PM AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE REMOVED THAT COMMODITY GOING TO TH
02:41:41PM FACILITIES.
02:41:41PM WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE LANDFILL.
02:41:43PM MOVING FORWARD NOW, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH APPROVAL FROM YOU
02:41:46PM ALL, NOW WE COMPOST.
02:41:48PM AND 21 MILLION POUNDS OF YARD WASTE NOW GOES TO A MULCHING
02:41:55PM AND A -- AND A RECOVERY FACILITY.
02:41:59PM MULCHING AND COMPOSTING.
02:42:01PM WE DO OTHER THINGS TO REMOVE THE ITEM WHICH GIVES US THE
02:42:07PM CAPACITY, QUOTE, UNQUOTE.
02:42:10PM THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE BURNING.
02:42:12PM AND THE REASON FOR THAT.
02:42:13PM NOW WE ARE GETTING MORE AGGRESSIVE IN FOCUSING ON
02:42:16PM RECYCLABLES AS WELL.
02:42:18PM PULLING THEM OUT OF THE WAY STREAM.
02:42:20PM 300,000 TONS PER YEAR IN THE NEXT TIN YEARS ON THIS AS WELL.
02:42:29PM 30,000 ADDITIONAL AND THAT IS CITY WIDE.
02:42:34PM YARD WASTE AS BULKY WASTE AND -- AND GARBAGE IN GENERAL.
02:42:40PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE THE SPACE TO BURN WASTE FOR
02:42:43PM YEARS TO COME.
02:42:45PM WE ARE FOCUSSING ON REMOVING THAT WASTE FROM THE WASTE OF
02:42:51PM ANY FACILITY AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE IT.
02:42:56PM WE ARE GOOD TO GO AS FAR AS RELIABILITY AND FUTURE CAPACITY.
02:43:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:43:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY, CONGRATULATIONS.
02:43:04PM WE NOW HAVE BEEN USING THE BROWN PAPER BAG AND SYSTEM FOR A
02:43:13PM YEAR NOW.
02:43:14PM AND I KEPT SEEING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU CAN
02:43:19PM -- YOU KNOW.
02:43:20PM SO EXPENSIVE TO BUY ONE OF THOSE BINS.
02:43:24PM I HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT.
02:43:25PM BUT I BOUGHT MY FIRST BIN WHEN I POUT MY FIRST HOUSE IN
02:43:29PM 2024.
02:43:29PM I STILL HAVE IT.
02:43:31PM 2004.
02:43:32PM MY FIRST -- I STILL HAVE THE BIN, 21 YEARS LATER.
02:43:38PM WE HAVE HOLES IN THE BOTTOM.
02:43:41PM AND SO THE WATER CAN DRAIN.
02:43:43PM I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS FOR THAT.
02:43:45PM AND I ALSO SAW WHY YOUR NEW SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN AROUND
02:43:49PM RECYCLING, AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY AWESOME.
02:43:52PM AND KIND OF TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON'S POINT.
02:43:56PM TALKING OF HOW WE CONTINUE TO -- WE MIGHT HAVE CAPACITY FOR
02:43:59PM NOW, BUT WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE AREA.
02:44:02PM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WE DO.
02:44:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OUR CONCERN IS EVEN WITH THE WORK YOU HAVE
02:44:08PM DONE AND YOUR TEAM IS DOING, WHEN -- DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE
02:44:16PM TO REACH THAT CAPACITY.
02:44:17PM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: OUR GOAL IS NOT TO REPEAT THE CAPACITY.
02:44:22PM AND JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE YARD WASTE AND SWITCH GEARS
02:44:26PM AND FOCUS ON RECYCLABLES
02:44:27PM OVER 20% OF THE MATERIAL GOING THROUGH THE PLANT IS
02:44:30PM RECYCLABLE.
02:44:31PM AND WE WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR MORE TEN YEARS.
02:44:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD TO KNOW.
02:44:37PM I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOME COMPOSTING YARD WASTE,
02:44:47PM AND TO FIND OF FOCUS MORE ON THAT.
02:44:51PM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: WE DO, OF COURSE, RESIDENTS AND TO
02:44:54PM PARTNER WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
02:44:56PM AND WE HAVE COMMUNITY GUARDIANS THAT ARE SOMETIMES A HARD
02:45:01PM SELL AND TAKES A LOT OF WOULD, FROM THE PUBLIC AND THOSE WHO
02:45:05PM WANT TO PARTICIPATE, WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THEM AND OUR
02:45:08PM TEAM IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE.
02:45:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEAT.
02:45:11PM I ALSO HAVE BEEN COMPOSTING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND IT
02:45:14PM ALL WORKS OUT.
02:45:15PM I DON'T THROW THAT MUCH GARBAGE AWAY BECAUSE MOST OF GARBAGE
02:45:21PM GOES TO RECYCLING AND COMPOST.
02:45:23PM I AM SORRY I MISSED MY TOUR THIS WEEK.
02:45:25PM I WILL MAKE THAT UP SOON.
02:45:27PM >>BRAD BAIRD: ALL FOR A TOUR FOR UPGRADES.
02:45:36PM THANK YOU TO THE TEAM.
02:45:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A FIVE-MINUTE IN-PERSON REPORT.
02:46:05PM HELLO, SIR.
02:46:06PM >> I WILL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF.
02:46:07PM I AM NOT SURE MY PRESENTATION WILL BE AS EXCITING AS THE
02:46:11PM WASTE --
02:46:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING MORE EXCITING THAN THAT.
02:46:15PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DAVID INGRAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
02:46:20PM TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
02:46:21PM THIS AFTERNOON, WE ARE HERE TO TALK OF THE MOTION MADE BY
02:46:23PM COUNCILMAN HURTAK TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE $45 MILLION
02:46:26PM EXPANSION/RENOVATIONS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
02:46:30PM WITHIN THE MOTION, WE ASKED -- ASKED FOR PROJECT TIMELINE,
02:46:34PM COST BREAKDOWN FOR GMP 1 AND 2, ANY DESIGN, ANY CHANGE
02:46:40PM ORDERS, CONTINGENCY FUNDS, DELIVERABLES, ANY DELAYS AND USE
02:46:46PM OF THE FUNDS AND BENEFITS FOR IT.
02:46:47PM FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH BUDGET TO
02:46:50PM ACTUALITIES.
02:46:50PM MEMORY SERVES, BUDGET WAS CREATED TO INCLUDE OUR EXPANSION,
02:46:55PM OUR HVAC UPGRADES.
02:46:56PM IF I USE THE WORD HVAC AND AIR HANDLER UNIT, IT IS ALL ONE
02:47:04PM THING.
02:47:04PM THREE PHASES TO THIS PROJECT.
02:47:06PM FIRST PHASE IS THE DESIGN PHASE GMP 1 AND 2.
02:47:10PM TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET WAS $44 MILLION.
02:47:13PM WE HAVE ACTUALS THAT WERE MET FOR THOSE PROJECTS AS WELL AS
02:47:16PM WE HAD TWO CHANGE ORDER.
02:47:18PM ONE WAS AN INCREASE OF CHANGE ORDER FOR $258,000.
02:47:21PM SECOND, A CREDIT BECAUSE WE WERE UNDER BUDGET, $843,000.
02:47:26PM SO OUR TOTAL ACTUAL TO DATE IS $44,444,215.
02:47:33PM SO, AGAIN, UNDER BUDGET WHICH WAS A BIG PROJECT FOR US TO
02:47:38PM UNDER STAKE.
02:47:38PM AS A REMINDER, FOR SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WAS
02:47:41PM CONTRIBUTIONS FROM BOTH THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX THAT THE
02:47:44PM COUNTY AUTHORIZED AND MONEY FROM THE CRA.
02:47:47PM I BELIEVE IT IS $2 MILLION FROM EACH OF THOSE ENTITIES THAT
02:47:50PM ALLOWED US TO DO THIS.
02:47:51PM BEFORE I GET INTO THE OFFICIAL PROJECT TIMELINE SINCE I
02:47:55PM WASN'T HERE BACK IN 020 PROJECTS I RECEIVED INFORMATION, THE
02:48:04PM PROJECT WAS SUPPOSE TO START IN 2020.
02:48:09PM ALL THAT HAPPENED WAS COVID.
02:48:10PM AND IT DELAYED THE OFFICIAL START TIME IN OCTOBER 2020.
02:48:15PM DESIGN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES APPROVED.
02:48:17PM TWO MONTHS LATER, IN DECEMBER, WE HAD GMP 1 APPROVED.
02:48:24PM AND COMPLETION WAS SET FOR 2021.
02:48:32PM AND CONSTRUCTION STARTED IN.
02:48:39PM THERE WE GO, SEPTEMBER OF '21.
02:48:41PM WAS MET IN 2023 OF JUNE.
02:48:43PM IN THAT TIMEFRAME, WE HAD ONE CHANGE ORDER, WHICH I ALREADY
02:48:47PM MENTIONED WHICH IS JULY OF 022 AND FINAL CERTIFICATE OF
02:48:54PM COMPLETION.
02:48:54PM THERE IS A DELAY BETWEEN THE DELIVERABLES AND THE
02:48:59PM CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
02:49:01PM ONCE WE DID THE RIBBON CUTTING IN JUNE, WE WERE ABLE TO GO BY
02:49:04PM THE END OF JUNE AND JULY FOR EVENTS.
02:49:06PM THE FIRST DESIGN WAS PROFESSIONAL.
02:49:11PM SCOPE WAS TO EXPAND RENOVATION THAT WE NEEDED DEVELOPMENT OF A
02:49:16PM BUDGET AND INDICTMENT OF FORMAL MATERIALS.
02:49:19PM YOU CAN SEE THIS THE ACTUALS WE HAD.
02:49:21PM WE REACHED OUR BUDGET OF $2.2 MILLION.
02:49:25PM GMP 1, SCOPE OF SERVICES MODERNIZING TWO OF OUR HE WILL
02:49:30PM VARIES.
02:49:30PM WE DID A REHAB AND BUILT OUT THREE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS ROOMS
02:49:34PM ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
02:49:35PM ADDED A MATERIAL, SERVICE LIFT THAT ALLOWED US TO SERVICE IT
02:49:39PM AND UPGRADED OUR EXISTING HVAC UNITS.
02:49:43PM WE MET THE PROJECT OF $ .9 MILLION.
02:49:47PM DIRECT COST OF WORK WAS .5.
02:49:49PM ALL THE ANCILLARY STUFF IS BONDING, SERVICES FEES, THINGS
02:49:53PM LIKE THAT.
02:49:53PM FINAL PHASE WAS THE GMP 2, NEW MEETING ROOMS, REPLACEMENT
02:49:59PM FOR UPPER RIVERWALK FOR HANDRAILS.
02:50:03PM HRAC UNITS.
02:50:05PM CURRENT THEME IN THIS PRESENTATION.
02:50:07PM RENOVATION OF OUR REST ROOMS AS WELL AS OUR BALLROOM.
02:50:12PM IT IS SPLIT INTO TWO PHASE.
02:50:13PM ONE WAS ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COST AND THE OTHER SEPARATE
02:50:17PM INCIDENT FEAR FOR UPGRADES FOR THE HVAC.
02:50:21PM YOU SEE TWO DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS.
02:50:23PM DIRECT COST 23.5.
02:50:25PM AND UPGRADES FOR 5.8.
02:50:27PM AND THEN WHEN YOU PUT ALL THE OTHER SERVICES, 37.8 MILLION,
02:50:32PM WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE BUDGETED TO BE EXPENDING FOR THIS
02:50:35PM PROJECT.
02:50:35PM AGAIN, WE DID HAVE TWO CHANGE ORDERS.
02:50:38PM FIRST ONE $258,000 FOR US.
02:50:40PM THAT INCLUDED ADDITIONAL M.O.T. COSTS.
02:50:44PM WE HAVE SOME FEBRUARY IMPACTS FOR OUR SCHEDULING DUE TO
02:50:47PM EVENTS.
02:50:48PM AND IN THE UPPERRIVER WALK REPLACEMENT, HOWEVER, THE SECOND
02:50:52PM CHANGE ORDER WHICH IS POSITIVE NEWS CREDIT OF 823,000
02:50:57PM FROM GMP 1 AND 2 COMBINED WHICH MAKES LIFE A WHOLE LOT
02:51:00PM EASIER FOR EVERYBODY.
02:51:03PM CONTINGENCY WHICH IS $1.7 MILLION.
02:51:06PM WE USED $175 ON THAT.
02:51:08PM REMAINING $225,000 UNSPENT ROLLS INTO THE CREDIT.
02:51:12PM AND THE CONTINGENCY FOR ANY UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES DURING
02:51:16PM CONSTRUCTION.
02:51:17PM WE ARE A 30-YEAR-OLD BUILDING AND SOME OF THE AS-BUILTS OFF
02:51:21PM THE CONSTRUCTION WEREN'T QUITE ACCURATE AND WE DID HAVE TO
02:51:24PM CHANGE THAT A LITTLE BIT.
02:51:25PM ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXPENSES WE DID WAS MITIGATE OUR WORK
02:51:28PM SCHEDULES AND NORMALLY IN CONSTRUCTION, MONDAY THROUGH
02:51:31PM FRIDAY, 8 TO 5.
02:51:32PM AN ACTIVE BUILDING DURING THAT TIMEFRAME, AND WE HAD TO MAKE
02:51:36PM CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE OUR EVENT.
02:51:38PM THAT SHIFT OF OVERNIGHT, SECOND SHIFT HAD TO BE A SORBED OUT
02:51:43PM OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST -- CONTINGENCY, EXCUSE ME.
02:51:47PM THE ONE REQUEST I MADE WHILE I WAS HERE.
02:51:49PM HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY SAW THE NEW EXPANSION AND THE CARPET,
02:51:53PM A BEAUTIFUL SEAFOAM CARPET THAT IS TO THE ESCALATORS.
02:52:00PM SET UP FOR THE ELEVATOR AND NOT SET UP FOR THE ENTIRE FOURTH
02:52:04PM FLOOR AND THE STARES.
02:52:05PM AND I MADE IT EUROPEAN TEE.
02:52:08PM I MADE THAT DECISION TO USE THE CONTINGENCY FUND.
02:52:11PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GMP 1s HAD 16,000 UNUSED FOR THE
02:52:16PM CONTINGENCY AND GMP 2 HAD 203,000.
02:52:21PM DELIVERABLES, I CAN GO THROUGH MOST OF THEM IF YOU WOULD
02:52:24PM LIKE.
02:52:25PM WE FOCUSED ON GETTING NEW IMPROVEMENTS FROM STEEL EXPANSION,
02:52:28PM TO SUPPORT THE EXPANSION.
02:52:31PM OUR 18 ROOMS WERE DONE.
02:52:32PM UPGRADED HVAC.
02:52:35PM RENOVATED REST ROOMS, ELEVATOR.
02:52:38PM RELEVANT IMAGES.
02:52:40PM I GAVE YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION AND A LOT OF NUMBERS ON
02:52:42PM THE PRESENTATION, BUT SOMETIMES IT IS EASIER TO SEE IT THAN
02:52:45PM IT IS TO HEAR IT.
02:52:46PM WE INCLUDED ON THE LEFT, YOU WILL SEE THE ORIGINAL
02:52:49PM CONSTRUCTION OF THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
02:52:52PM EXTERIOR WALL ON THE RIVER.
02:52:54PM ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, THE UPDATED EXPANSION.
02:52:56PM MAKES A HUGE WORLD OF DIFFERENCE FROM AN AESTHETICS
02:53:00PM STANDPOINT AND ATTRACTIVE PIECE FOR THE RIVERWALK.
02:53:02PM PHOTOS UNDERNEATH.
02:53:04PM NEW BALLROOM RENOVATIONS.
02:53:06PM AS WELL AS THE NEW MEETING ROOMS THAT WERE BEING USED.
02:53:11PM WE DO HAVE DELAYS.
02:53:12PM OBVIOUSLY ,I DID SAY THAT THE FIRST PART OF THE DELAY WAS DUE
02:53:17PM TO COVID.
02:53:18PM AND THERE WAS MATERIAL DELAYS BECAUSE OF COVID.
02:53:20PM WE HAD DELAYS GETTING ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT.
02:53:26PM THIS ONE IS HARD TO SAY, CERTAIN EVENTS THAT CONTRACTED, NO
02:53:30PM MISSION, NO VIBRATIONS, NO INFORMATION CAN BE DONE AT ALL
02:53:33PM TIMES FOR THEIR EVENTS AND THAT PUSHED ALL OF CONSTRUCTION
02:53:36PM BACK, ANNUAL EVENT OF SOFT WEEK.
02:53:39PM FLORIDA GAME TWICE A YEAR AND HOSTING THE SUPER BOWL.
02:53:44PM CENTER MADE A DECISION AT THAT TIME TO BOOK EVENTS AND
02:53:50PM WORKING IN BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK AT
02:53:52PM TIMES.
02:53:52PM WE HAD TO PUSH SOME DELAY BACK FOR WORK BEING DONE.
02:53:56PM USE OF UNUSED CAPITAL FUND, THERE IS ABOUT 600,000 LEFT.
02:54:00PM WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE ACTUALLY USE THAT FOR THE
02:54:03PM THREE PROJECTS WE HAVE LISTED HERE, EXTERIOR LIGHTING
02:54:06PM PICTURE REPLACEMENT, REMAINING HVAC.
02:54:09PM WE HAVE NINE LEFT TO REPLACE IN THE FACILITY.
02:54:11PM A TOTAL OF 41.
02:54:13PM WE REPLACED 39 ALREADY.
02:54:14PM AND UPGRADE OUR ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR.
02:54:18PM $600,000 WILL NOT COVER ALL THREE ARE YOU WHATEVER IS LEFT
02:54:22PM OVER WE WILL HAVE IT IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, ONCE WE
02:54:25PM HAVE THE ASSESSMENT DONE FROM THE FACILITY.
02:54:27PM AND BENEFITS.
02:54:29PM THE HIGHLIGHT WHERE THE SHOW COMES INTO PLAY.
02:54:33PM EVERYONE WANTS ONE TO ONE.
02:54:35PM IN THE CONVENTION INDUSTRY, YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET THE ONE TO
02:54:39PM ONE.
02:54:39PM 25,000 SQUARE FEET ALREADY YIELDED US 7.1 MILLION IN REVENUE
02:54:46PM AND BASED ON THE RENTAL AND CONTRACTED FROM 2024.
02:54:48PM CURRENTLY THE FURTHEST OUT WE HAVE A CONTRACT IS 2031.
02:54:53PM REALISTICALLY, THAT NUMBER GOES UP AS WE CONTINUE TO BOOK
02:54:56PM BUSINESS.
02:54:56PM INDUSTRY USED TO BE FOUR TO FIVE YEARS IN ADVANCE WE WOULD
02:54:59PM HAVE A CONTRACT.
02:54:59PM NOW DOWN TO TWO TO THREE YEARS.
02:55:01PM SO OUR NUMBERS WILL ALWAYS BE WITHIN THE TWO TO THREE-YEAR
02:55:05PM RANGE.
02:55:05PM THAT NUMBER SHOULD GO UP.
02:55:06PM OTHER ONE I LOOK AT WHICH IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT FOR THE
02:55:09PM COMMUNITY WHAT I CALL AN INDIRECT BENEFIT, WHICH IS OUR
02:55:12PM ECONOMIC IMPACT.
02:55:13PM ON THE -- ON THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
02:55:16PM SO BY MODERNIZING THE FACILITY, WE ULTIMATELY ARE ABLE TO
02:55:20PM ATTRACT HIGH LEVEL EVENTS THAT SPEND MORE MONEY IN OUR
02:55:23PM COMMUNITY.
02:55:24PM THIS YEAR TWO OF THE TOP TWO, NCAA TOURNEY COMING IN END OF
02:55:30PM APRIL, AMERICAN LEGION IN SUMMER, AND LAST YEAR, TSAL, THAT
02:55:35PM CONTRACTED SPECIFICALLY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR --
02:55:38PM BECAUSE OF THE NEW ROOMS.
02:55:38PM NUMBERS ON SLIDES ARE THE ECONOMIC SPENDING IMPACTS.
02:55:42PM I SAW THAT LOOK FOR TSAL.
02:55:44PM IT IS TEACHING ENGLISH LANGUAGE -- TEACHING ENGLISH FOR
02:55:49PM SPEAKING -- OF SPEAKER OF OTHER LANGUAGES.
02:55:51PM THERE WE GO.
02:55:52PM THAT IS A MOUTHFUL.
02:55:53PM BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, NOT ONLY THAT, WE HAVE TWO -- OUR TWO
02:55:57PM LARGE EVENTS ARE SOFT WEEK AND IVEX, THE INTERNATIONAL BOAT
02:56:02PM BUILDERS EXPOS.
02:56:03PM THOSE TWO SHOWS ARE GROWING YEAR-OVER-YEAR AND MAXIMIZING
02:56:06PM THE SPACE.
02:56:07PM YES WHEN THAT EXPANSION CAME IN, IT ALLOWED USES TO RETAIN
02:56:11PM THOSE EVENTS FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS BEFORE WE FIGURE OUT
02:56:13PM HOW TO EXPAND.
02:56:17PM AND BRINGS IN ECONOMIC IMPACT.
02:56:19PM BED TAX, SALES TAX, PEOPLE IN OUR RESTAURANTS, BUYING
02:56:23PM SERVICES, BUYING FOOD, ALL THOSE THINGS.
02:56:25PM I PUT THE HIGHLIGHT FOR THE YEAR, THE ESTIMATED ECONOMIC
02:56:28PM IMPACT FOR '25 JUST TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE IS $169 MILLION
02:56:32PM THAT OUR EVENTS BRING TO THE COMMUNITY.
02:56:34PM PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IS A CALENDAR YEAR NOT A FISCAL YEAR
02:56:38PM AND IT HAS THE FLUX OF IT.
02:56:41PM WE GET HVAC EFFICIENCY.
02:56:45PM WE HAVE OUR OWN CHILLED WATER PLANT, BUT WON'T HAVE TO USE IT
02:56:48PM AS MUCH BECAUSE OF THE NEW UPGRADED HVAC AND IMPROVED
02:56:54PM ACCESS TO THE RIVERWALK.
02:56:56PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
02:56:57PM BEFORE I OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK
02:57:00PM YOU FOR MISS COPESKY FOR PROVIDING A GREAT FORMAT FOR ME TO
02:57:05PM FOLLOW AND ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE ME A LOT OF INFORMATION
02:57:09PM SINCE HE WASN'T HERE.
02:57:10PM WHAT TO PUT IN.
02:57:11PM WHAT NOT TO PUT IN.
02:57:12PM AND THE FINANCIAL -- REVENUE AND FINANCE.
02:57:15PM ANY QUESTIONS?
02:57:15PM I'M HERE FOR YOU.
02:57:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU HAD YOUR
02:57:19PM MICROPHONE ON.
02:57:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I AM SORRY.
02:57:22PM I WAS LISTENING TO IT INTENTLY.
02:57:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN AND HURTAK.
02:57:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE NOT USED TO PEOPLE AGREEING WITH
02:57:44PM YOU.
02:57:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT FROM YOU.
02:57:49PM A GOOD SEGUE, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT FOR TO YOU HAVE A PLAN
02:57:55PM FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.
02:57:57PM >> ONE IS THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT.
02:58:00PM THAT SHOULD BE READY TO GO IN MAY, PER COUNCILWOMAN'S
02:58:04PM REQUEST -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S REQUEST, WE WILL BRING THAT
02:58:07PM BACK TO INDIVIDUALS TO WE CAN REVIEW THAT AND ADD TO
02:58:13PM PRESENTATION.
02:58:14PM AND THEN PRESENT TO COUNCIL.
02:58:15PM HALFWAY THROUGH OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH OUR CONSULTANTS.
02:58:20PM THEY FINISHED THE STAKEHOLDER, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE A
02:58:23PM PRELIMINARY REPORT TO US BY THE END OF APRIL AND THE
02:58:25PM FULL-FLEDGED REPORT HOPEFULLY BY MAY IF NOT SOONER BASED ON
02:58:30PM WHAT COMES BACK FROM THE INDUSTRY.
02:58:32PM >> I THINK WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES OF
02:58:37PM MOBILITY, ACCESS TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
02:58:39PM >> NO ISSUES.
02:58:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTHING TO SEE HERE'S.
02:58:42PM I THINK AS YOU LOOK AT THIS EXPANSION AND POTENTIAL
02:58:46PM OPPORTUNITIES HERE, THAT WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT KEEPING THE
02:58:51PM TRAFFIC FLOWING UNDERNEATH THE CONVENTION CENTER.
02:58:55PM PEDESTRIAN ACCESS CROSSING.
02:58:56PM AND ACROSS FRANKLIN BETWEEN THE -- BETWEEN THE -- THE --
02:59:00PM BETWEEN THE CONVENTION CENTER AND HARBOUR ISLAND.
02:59:03PM >> SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
02:59:06PM FOR CSL, WHAT WE TASKED THEM TO DO TO TAKE INTO
02:59:10PM CONSIDERATION FOR FUTURE EXPANSION HOW TO DEAL WITH THE
02:59:12PM ISSUES FRANKLIN STREET.
02:59:14PM DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY WE GO, A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES TO
02:59:17PM SOLVE THE PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR ISSUES THAT ARE CURRENTLY
02:59:20PM ON FRANKLIN STREET.
02:59:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU WILL END UP WITH A LOT MORE
02:59:24PM CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT IF -- AND MAYBE MORE EXPEDITIOUS CITY
02:59:29PM COUNCIL SUPPORT IF THOSE THINGS ARE FACTORED IN, AND WE ARE
02:59:31PM ABLE TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THE
02:59:36PM PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUES.
02:59:37PM YOUR REQUEST FOR THE MONEY FOR THE CIP.
02:59:40PM IS THAT A MOTION YOU ARE ASKING FOR US FOR TODAY?
02:59:42PM >> JUST ASKING FOR OVERALL IF YOU GUYS WANT TO INCORPORATE
02:59:47PM THAT TO ME.
02:59:48PM THAT IS GREAT.
02:59:49PM MOVE IT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
02:59:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE
02:59:54PM APPROPRIATE FOR US TO AUTHORIZE THE MONEY TO BE SPENT TO GO
03:00:01PM THROUGH THE PROCESS?
03:00:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR WHICH FISCAL OTHER?
03:00:08PM NEXT FISCAL YEAR?
03:00:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNUSED MONEY FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR.
03:00:13PM HE WANTS AUTHORIZATION TO SPEND IN THE CIP.
03:00:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE ADMINISTRATIVE.
03:00:19PM WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF HOW TO DO THAT.
03:00:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRING THAT FORTH AND OBVIOUSLY I AM SURE
03:00:25PM YOU WILL GET SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL.
03:00:26PM >> OKAY.
03:00:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORRY MICROPHONE WAS NOT ON.
03:00:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK, CARLSON.
03:00:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:00:37PM THANK YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
03:00:39PM GLAD WE CAME IN UNDER, AND YOU CAN PUT MONEY TO OTHER THINGS.
03:00:42PM I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:00:44PM I WOULD SUPPORT YOU IN THAT KNOWING THAT WE ONLY HAVE A FEW
03:00:46PM MORE AIR CONDITIONERS LEFT, LET'S JUST GET IT DONE.
03:00:50PM I KNOW WE TALKED OF THE FACT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THE
03:00:53PM STORMS.
03:00:53PM WITH HELENE AND SOME STORMWATER.
03:00:57PM SO WOULD THAT BE INCLUDED IN WHAT TO USE THAT -- THE EXTRA
03:01:01PM CAPITAL MONEY FOR?
03:01:03PM >> NO, THAT ACTUALLY GOES UNDER OUR INSURANCE.
03:01:05PM THAT IS COVERED AS A SEPARATE PIECE.
03:01:06PM AND WE CURRENTLY ARE ABLE TO -- WE NEED FOR STARTERS FOR OUR
03:01:12PM CHILL WATER UNITS.
03:01:13PM WE ARE ABLE TO ORDER ONE AND HAVE IT IN.
03:01:15PM AND INSTALLED AND READY TO GO SO THE RENTAL UNIT IS GONE AND
03:01:19PM THE OTHER THREE HAVE BEEN ORDERED.
03:01:20PM THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING FIXED.
03:01:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU TALKED OF HAVING A FENCE A LA TGH.
03:01:29PM STILL A CONFIGURATION.
03:01:33PM >> WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME OUT TO SEE IF THAT IS
03:01:36PM FEASIBLE FOR US.
03:01:37PM A TIGER DAM THEY PUT ON THE PUMP ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
03:01:40PM GAVE US THE INSPIRATION, IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN
03:01:43PM DO.
03:01:43PM OUR CHIEF MAINTENANCE ENGINEER IS LOOKING AT IT TO SEE IF WE
03:01:47PM CAN USE THAT OR THERE WILL BE ANOTHER SOLUTION.
03:01:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHATEVER EXPANSION YOU DO NEXT, THAT IS
03:01:53PM NUMBER ONE ON MY LIST FOR YOU.
03:01:54PM BECAUSE THAT KEEPS YOU RUNNING.
03:01:57PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
03:01:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO IF THERE IS MONEY LEFT AFTER THOSE THREE
03:02:02PM ITEMS, THAT IS WHERE I WOULD VOTE TO PUT IT.
03:02:04PM FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, I KNOW WE TALKED BRIEFLY
03:02:09PM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE -- OR THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE
03:02:12PM RATHER -- I'M HERE ALL THE TIME -- ABOUT THE BRICKYARD AND
03:02:15PM POSSIBLY DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THAT AREA WHEN WE ARE
03:02:19PM TALKING ABOUT EXPANSION AND POSSIBLY GETTING RID OF SOME OF
03:02:22PM THE CAR TRAFFIC, AND TO HELP THAT FRANKLIN STREET AREA.
03:02:25PM I WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT WITH ANY TYPE OF
03:02:28PM IDEAS -- PROPOSALS COMING FORWARD.
03:02:31PM THEN -- I THINK -- I HAD ONE MORE THING AND I DON'T.
03:02:36PM I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN.
03:02:37PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:02:38PM I APPRECIATE -- OH, THAT IS WHAT IT WAS.
03:02:41PM SO BASED ON GETTING THIS MONEY, BRINGING IT BACK IN, WHEN DO
03:02:45PM WE THINK WE WILL BE KIND OF -- WE WILL BE CLEAR OF THE --
03:02:49PM WHEN DO WE BASICALLY GET OUR MONEY BACK FROM $ 44 MILLION?
03:02:56PM WHEN DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE COULD RECOUP THAT?
03:03:00PM >> TOUGH QUESTION.
03:03:01PM BECAUSE BUSINESS IS CYCLICAL.
03:03:05PM OUR CLIENTS HAVE CHOICES TO GO TO.
03:03:06PM NOT LIKE THEY ONLY COME HERE.
03:03:08PM REALISTICALLY, WE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A 15- TO 20-YEAR
03:03:12PM RETURN IF YOU DO IT ON THAT RENTAL COMPONENT, BUT WE ARE NOT
03:03:15PM ABLE TO FACTOR IN WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SPACE YOU HAVE
03:03:18PM INCREASED UTILITY USAGES, EXPENDITURES ON FOOD AND BEVERAGE
03:03:22PM AND THAT COMES BACK INTO THE CITY AS WELL.
03:03:24PM AND MINIMIZE THE 15 YEARS.
03:03:27PM BUT REALISTICALLY, WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON IS ECONOMIC
03:03:31PM IMPACT, BECAUSE REALISTICALLY IF THE $25 MILLION GOES AWAY
03:03:34PM FROM SOFT WEEK AND LIVE X THAT NOW SEVERELY HINDERS SALES
03:03:40PM TAX, BED TAX.
03:03:41PM LIKE I SAID, THAT IS WHY IT IS NOT A ONE OR ONE WHEN I MADE
03:03:46PM THE COMMENT.
03:03:46PM NOT NECESSARILY ONE FOR ONE.
03:03:48PM WE SPENT X AND WE ARE GOING TO GET Y BACK.
03:03:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE IT.
03:03:54PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:03:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:03:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T ESTIMATE A TIME WHEN THE
03:04:01PM CONVENTION CENTER WILL GENERATE A SURPLUS THAT CAN BE MOVED
03:04:04PM TO OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY?
03:04:06PM >> NOT REALLY, THE SHEER FACT THE WAY STRUCTURE IS SET UP,
03:04:14PM OUR EXPENDITURE BUDGET IS EQUAL BECAUSE I TAKE CARE OF OUR
03:04:17PM MAINTENANCE PORTION AND COMES OUT OF THE REVENUE.
03:04:20PM ANYTHING FOR GENERAL FUND SOMETHING ANYTHING ABOVE AND
03:04:23PM BEYOND WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE SOMETHING I CAN'T
03:04:25PM AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO PULL OUT OF.
03:04:28PM BUT I HAVE GIVEN MONEY BACK.
03:04:30PM I WILL SAY THAT.
03:04:30PM LAST YEAR, WE GAVE $800,000 BACK TO THE CITY AND MANAGE OUR
03:04:34PM EXPENDITURES AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ON REVENUE.
03:04:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
03:04:42PM THANK YOU.
03:04:42PM HOPEFULLY, THE NEXT QUESTION WILL HAD BEEN SOFTBALL.
03:04:46PM BUT FORMER MAYOR BUCKHORN IN THE MEDIA SAID WE AS THE RAA
03:04:50PM BOARD HAVE WASTED MONEY INVESTING IN CITY-OWNED FACILITIES.
03:04:54PM AND SAID THE NONPROFITS THAT SUPPORT THE CITY-OWNED
03:04:57PM FACILITIES AND WE SHOULD BE SPENDING CRA AND OTHER MONEY TO
03:05:01PM SUBSIDIZE DEVELOPERS WITH THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND THE
03:05:05PM AD VALOREM TAXES.
03:05:06PM BESIDE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
03:05:08PM I WENT TO GRAD SCHOOL TO SHOOT HOLES IN ECONOMIC NUMBERS.
03:05:13PM ASIDE FROM ECONOMIC IMPACT, WHY IT IS IMPORTANT FOR A CITY
03:05:19PM TO HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER AND INVEST IN A CONVENTION
03:05:22PM CENTER.
03:05:22PM WHY SHOULD THE CONSTITUENTS CARE.
03:05:25PM >> WHETHER WE AGREE OR DISAGREE ON THE PHILOSOPHICAL OF
03:05:30PM ECONOMIC IMPACT, HAVING MONEY COME TO THE COMMUNITY IS
03:05:35PM FAR BETTER A PLAN THAN NOT.
03:05:35PM WE ARE NOT A NATURAL DRAW.
03:05:36PM WHEN I SAY A NATURAL DRAW, NOT TRYING TO COMPARE TAMPA TO
03:05:41PM ORLANDO, DISNEY, UNIVERSAL.
03:05:43PM A NATURAL DRAW FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND ON VACATION AND
03:05:47PM SPEND THE MONEY THERE.
03:05:48PM OUR FRIENDS IN CLEARWATER AND ST. PETE HAVE A BEACH TO GO
03:05:52PM THROUGH.
03:05:52PM ONE WAY TO BRING THAT IN HAVING A CONVENTION CENTER AND
03:05:56PM HAVING OUTSIDE BUSINESS.
03:05:57PM FOR US AT THE CENTER, WE ARE HERE NOT TO MAKE A PROFIT.
03:06:02PM NOT A DEVELOPER TRYING TO BUILD A HOTEL.
03:06:03PM I'M HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS IN WATER STREET WHO
03:06:07PM HAVE RESTAURANTS HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THEM AND HAVE
03:06:09PM JOBS.
03:06:09PM THAT IS THE MANY POINTS I HAVE FOR IT.
03:06:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: HAVE YOU BEEN -- THIS IS A PHILOSOPHICAL
03:06:15PM COMPANY.
03:06:15PM HAVE YOU TRACKED COMPANIES THAT COME TO CONVENTIONS AND INVEST
03:06:19PM IN IT, USED AS AN ECONOMIC TOOL AT ALL?
03:06:23PM >> I WOULD HAVE TO REACH OUT TO VISIT TAMPA BAY.
03:06:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ONLY HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE FOR A COUPLE OF
03:06:29PM YEARS.
03:06:29PM YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT LONG HISTORY.
03:06:31PM >> PAST PRECEDENCE IS ORLANDO.
03:06:34PM THE AMUSEMENT PARK LEFT THEIR HEADQUARTERS TO MOVE TO
03:06:41PM ORLANDO BECAUSE IT WAS IN ORLANDO.
03:06:42PM THERE IS A TRACK RECORD OF CERTAIN AGENCIES TO MOVE IF YOU
03:06:46PM HAVE THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
03:06:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN CASE IT IS NOT CLEAR, I THINK IT IS GOOD
03:06:50PM IDEA TO HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER AND COMPETITIVE FOR THE
03:06:54PM REASONS YOU MENTIONED AND MORE.
03:06:55PM AND I THINK IT IS AS GOOD INVESTMENT.
03:06:56PM JUST LIKE I THINK IT IS AS GREAT INVESTMENT FOR CRA TO
03:07:00PM INVEST IN OTHER CITY-OWNED FACILITIES.
03:07:02PM ONE LAST QUESTION THAT MAY BE SLIGHTLY TOUGHER.
03:07:04PM CONVENTION CENTER THAT ASKED FOR THE ARE HE HAD LIGHT AT
03:07:10PM GRECO PLAZA.
03:07:11PM >> THE DICK GRECO BOULEVARD.
03:07:12PM >> THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO HAVE RED LIKE AT
03:07:18PM GRECO PLAZA.
03:07:19PM THE CONVENTION CENTER --
03:07:22PM >> THE ONE I SUPPORTED WAS STREET AND FRANKLIN BECAUSE THAT
03:07:27PM IS A NATURAL CHALLENGE FOR US WHEN IT COMES TO -- WHETHER IT
03:07:30PM IS JUST THE CONVENTION CENTER OR NEWS AT THE MARRIOTT THAT
03:07:33PM HAPPENS.
03:07:33PM THAT IS A CRITICAL INTERSECTION FOR US.
03:07:35PM AND FROM -- I WILL SAY A NONPOLITICAL STANDPOINT, WE WILL DO
03:07:39PM WHATEVER IT DECIDED FROM BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND MOBILITY.
03:07:43PM WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BE GOOD PARTNERS AND MAKE SURE OUR
03:07:46PM PEDESTRIANS ARE SAFE, OUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE, AND I DON'T GET
03:07:49PM CALLS FROM EVERYBODY WHO SIT THERE AND SAY THE STREET IS
03:07:52PM BLOCKED UP BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE.
03:07:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: A SKY BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER THE EMBASSY
03:07:58PM SUITES.
03:07:58PM DO MANY PEOPLE USE THAT?
03:08:01PM >> IT WAS BUILT AND OPERATED BY EMBASSY SUITES.
03:08:04PM THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
03:08:08PM IT IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACCESS TO
03:08:11PM THE STREET LEVELS TO GET TO THE STAIRS AND OWNER/OPERATOR OF
03:08:14PM A HOTEL.
03:08:14PM I WOULDN'T WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO GO UP AN OVER.
03:08:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: APPRECIATE IT.
03:08:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HENDERSON, MIRANDA.
03:08:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MY QUESTION IS EASY SO DO CHARLIE FIRST.
03:08:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE YOUR SINCERITY, FORWARDNESS
03:08:28PM AND EXPLANATION.
03:08:29PM MORE IMPORTANTLY, CONVENTION CENTERS ARE A FACILITY TO BRING
03:08:33PM MONEY FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN A WAY.
03:08:35PM YOUR JOB TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE RIGHT, APPROPRIATELY AND
03:08:39PM NOT LOSE ANY OF THE CITY'S MONEY.
03:08:41PM WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE -- NOT WE, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE.
03:08:44PM YOU TALK OF ORLANDO AND CHICAGO AND ATLANTA, THOSE -- THOSE
03:08:47PM CONVENTION CENTERS ARE FIVE TIMES LARGER THAN OURS, AM I
03:08:51PM CORRECT?
03:08:52PM >> A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT SURE.
03:08:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T WANT TO KNOCK DOWN MY CITY THAT
03:08:58PM BAD.
03:08:59PM SEVEN OR EIGHT, OR FIVE OR SIX TIMES BIGGER THAN US.
03:09:02PM BUT WE DO WHAT WE DO.
03:09:04PM WE ARE A B CONVENTION CENTER COMPARED TO THE SIZES -- THEY
03:09:07PM HAVE DIFFERENT SIZES.
03:09:08PM >> NEVER LETTER BY LETTER.
03:09:09PM ALL BY TIER.
03:09:11PM TIER ONE, TIER TWO.
03:09:13PM WE ARE A TIER TWO CITY.
03:09:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO, I WOULD IMAGINE WE ARE ONE OF THE
03:09:21PM SUCCESSFUL CONVENTION CENTERS IN THE COUNTRY.
03:09:23PM >> WE ARE.
03:09:24PM WE PULL OUR OWN WEIGHT.
03:09:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T TALK TO YOU.
03:09:27PM I DON'T TALK TO ANYONE.
03:09:28PM WHEN YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF THAT.
03:09:29PM YOU SEE PEOPLE HAPPY WALKING THE STREETS OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA
03:09:32PM AND AT NIGHT GOING YBOR CITY AND SPEND THEIR MONEY AND
03:09:35PM CONVENTION CENTER AND WALK AROUND WATER STREET AND DO THE
03:09:38PM THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO, THAT THEY WANT TO DO, IT IS A
03:09:42PM WHEN-WIN FOR EVERYONE.
03:09:43PM AND -- AND I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT OTHER ENTITIES SAY
03:09:47PM WITHOUT US, YOU CAN'T DO IT.
03:09:49PM WE ARE MORE THAN LIKELY ONE AND TWO IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY IN
03:09:53PM HOTEL OCCUPANCY.
03:09:54PM AM I CORRECT, SORT OF?
03:09:56PM >> OR OCCUPANCY RATE FOR THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE IN
03:09:59PM THE TOP FOR THE COMPETITIVE SET.
03:10:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS BECAUSE IN PART -- NOT ALL OF IT
03:10:04PM -- THE CONVENTION CENTER PEOPLE COME TO HAVE CONVENTION.
03:10:08PM THEY RENT HOTEL ROOMS AND RENT BALLROOMS AND DO ALL KIND OF
03:10:12PM THINGS.
03:10:12PM THEREFORE, YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT THING NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY
03:10:16PM OF TAMPA, BUT FOR THE REGION, INCLUDING THE SALES TAX THAT
03:10:20PM THE STATE COLLECTS MOST OF IT FOR THEMSELVES.
03:10:22PM SO WE -- WE HAVE DONE -- WE -- WHEN I SAY "QUESTION," I MEAN
03:10:26PM YOU, NOT ME.
03:10:27PM WHAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAS DONE IS CONTINUE TO BETTER THE
03:10:31PM CONVENTION CENTER.
03:10:32PM YOU HAVE TO CHANGE EVER SO MANY YEARS.
03:10:38PM RESTAURANT BUSINESS CHANGES OVER EIGHT TO TEN YEARS.
03:10:40PM IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE INSIDE OF IT.
03:10:43PM THEY EAT WITH THEIR EYES AND TASTE WITH THE MOUTH.
03:10:46PM YOU SEE RESTAURANT NOT CHANGING, YOU ARE SAYING WHY AM I
03:10:49PM HERE FOR.
03:10:50PM IMMACULATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND THAT PLACE IS IMMACULATELY
03:10:54PM CLEAN.
03:10:54PM I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES IT BUT THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
03:10:57PM >> THEY DO.
03:10:58PM I WILL SHARE THAT WITH THEM.
03:10:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN LOOK DOWN AND SEE THE FACE ON THE
03:11:03PM FLOOR.
03:11:03PM NOT MINE BECAUSE I AM BALD AND THE GLARE BOTHERS ME.
03:11:07PM ALL OF THESE THINGS ON YOUR SIDE AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
03:11:09PM YOUR TEAM ALONG WITH VISIT TAMPA BAY.
03:11:13PM CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE CONVENTIONS COMING FROM ALL OVER THE
03:11:16PM WORLD.
03:11:16PM WE DON'T HAVE CIGAR MAKERS ANYMORE.
03:11:19PM SO THEY CAN'T GO SEE A CIGAR FACTORY OPERATION.
03:11:22PM WHAT WE HAVE IS THE ENTITY CITY OF TAMPA WITH DIFFERENT
03:11:26PM COMPONENTS THAT PEOPLE COME TO SEE AND THEY LOVE IT.
03:11:28PM ZOO TAMPA AQUARIUM, BOTH -- OVER A MILLION PERSONS THE BLAST
03:11:34PM TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
03:11:35PM THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BEFORE.
03:11:37PM IF I RECALL THAT.
03:11:38PM AND WHEN THEY WERE OPEN, THEY WERE BOTH STRUGGLING AND DOING
03:11:44PM THE BEST.
03:11:45PM ENLARGING THE PLACE.
03:11:46PM CREATING OTHER THINGS.
03:11:47PM YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ATMOSPHERE TO SUCCEED AND YOUR OPERATION
03:11:52PM HAS TO HAVE A BETTER OPERATION FOR THEM TO SUCCEED.
03:11:54PM IF YOU HAVE A PARTNERSHIP LIKE THAT, EVERYBODY GETS A LITTLE
03:11:57PM PIECE OF THAT DOLLAR BILL, AND EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.
03:11:59PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
03:12:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHARLIE, HOW SO YOU SPELL C-GAR?
03:12:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DEPENDS IN EAST YBOR CITY AND CITY.
03:12:15PM I KNEW SOMEBODY LIKE YOU WOULD BRING IT UP, SO HE WAS
03:12:18PM PREPARED.
03:12:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
03:12:22PM I AM JUST CURIOUS AND TRIGGERED IN MY HEAD WHEN YOU SAID THE
03:12:26PM LOCAL STAKEHOLDER MEETING.
03:12:28PM EXACTLY WHO DOES THAT INVOLVE.
03:12:30PM LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS.
03:12:32PM >> VISIT TAMPA BAY.
03:12:33PM HOTELIERS.
03:12:35PM MOST OF THE DEVELOPERS FOR HOTELS.
03:12:37PM THAT COMPONENT -- YOU KNOW ME, I AM VERY TRANSPARENT, AND I
03:12:45PM CAN'T HIDE BEHIND IT.
03:12:47PM WE NEED ADDITIONAL HOTEL ROOMS.
03:12:48PM WHEN IT COMES TO EXPANSION ADDITIONAL HOTEL SPACE.
03:12:52PM WE HAVE TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION OTHER DEVELOPERS AND WHAT
03:12:56PM THEIR RESPONSE AND IF THEY ARE SUPPORTED.
03:12:57PM AT THE MOMENT, THEY ARE ALL FOR IT BECAUSE WE ARE LIMITED
03:13:01PM FOR SPACE FOR HOTEL ROOM CAPACITY.
03:13:05PM THAT LOCAL STAKEHOLDER PIECE FROM THE FEASIBILITY, WE NEED
03:13:08PM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MARKET IS THERE.
03:13:09PM WE MOVE TO THE EXPANSION, WE INVOLVE MORE OF THE LOCAL
03:13:13PM COMMUNITY FOR POTENTIAL DESIGN, LOCATION AND THINGS LIKE
03:13:15PM THAT.
03:13:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE.
03:13:19PM THANK YOU.
03:13:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK.
03:13:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
03:13:25PM AS I RECALL, THE EMBASSY SUITES WAS BUILT TO BUILD A SECOND
03:13:31PM TOWER ON TOP OF THAT.
03:13:32PM >> YOU ARE CORRECT.
03:13:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: POTENTIAL CAPACITY THERE.
03:13:36PM >> CORRECT.
03:13:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: RENDERING THAT SPECULATED PUTTING A HOTEL ON
03:13:40PM TOP OF THE CONVENTION CENTER BUT JUST ACROSS THE STREET
03:13:43PM THERE IS SPACE AS WELL.
03:13:44PM >> PRIVATE ENTITY THAT OWNS THE EMBASSY, YES.
03:13:47PM IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR IT FROM US.
03:13:49PM THERE IS STILL A LACK OF ROOM CAPACITY FROM THAT BUILDING.
03:13:52PM YOU STILL -- REALISTICALLY, FOR COMMUNITY WE PROBABLY NEED
03:13:56PM 8,000 TO 1,000 ADDITIONAL ROOM NIGHTS TO TRULY BE
03:13:59PM SUCCESSFUL.
03:14:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:14:03PM >> THANK YOU.
03:14:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BRANDON CAMPBELL FROM MOBILITY TO EXPLAIN
03:14:07PM WHY DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC PLAN IS NOT BEING FOLLOWED.
03:14:12PM NO, TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:14:15PM YOU SAID YOU WERE GOOD ON 68.
03:14:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES I AM.
03:14:18PM THANK YOU.
03:14:19PM IF I MAY.
03:14:20PM LIKE I SAID, WE ARE GOOD ON THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK ON
03:14:23PM STAFF ON THAT FOR PEPPIN AND LISA BONNER, FORMER TAMPA
03:14:28PM POLICE OFFICER.
03:14:28PM GREAT -- GOOD WORK.
03:14:30PM APPRECIATE YOU.
03:14:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC PLAN NOT BEING
03:14:33PM FOLLOWED AS ALLEGED BY DOWNTOWN PROPERTY OWNERS.
03:14:36PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: GOOD AFTERNOON, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
03:14:43PM I SUBMITTED A MEMO THAT EXPLAINS IN GENERAL WHAT THE PROCESS
03:14:47PM FOR THE DOWNTOWN TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR -- FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
03:14:50PM WE DO PUT FORTH ATTRACT CONTROL PLAN THAT TPD IMPLEMENTS FOR
03:14:56PM SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEN ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE MADE ON A
03:15:00PM CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
03:15:02PM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
03:15:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU MADE THE
03:15:10PM MOTION.
03:15:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: ARGUING AGAINST THE ISSUE, NOT AGAINST YOU.
03:15:13PM APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP BEFORE US.
03:15:15PM TRAFFIC IN DOWNTOWN WAS TERRIBLE.
03:15:18PM MENTIONED THAT YESTERDAY IT TOOK ME AN HOUR TO GET FROM
03:15:21PM GANDY DOWN BAYSHORE AND CROSSTOWN AND OTHER METHOD -- TOOK
03:15:26PM ME AN HOUR TO GET FROM GANDY TO YBOR CITY, AND IF THERE IS ONE
03:15:31PM EVENT OR EVEN MORE THAN ONE EVENT DOWNTOWN, IT IS COMPLETELY
03:15:34PM JAMMED.
03:15:34PM ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, I HAVE EXPLAINED TO OTHER STAFF MEMBERS
03:15:38PM IS THE OTHER TURN LANE -- THE RIGHT-TURN LANE IS BLOCKED
03:15:41PM BECAUSE THE -- THE TRAFFIC PLAN IS NOT FOLLOWED.
03:15:46PM EVEN VIK SAID IF THE POLICE AND EVERYONE JUST FOLLOWED THE
03:15:50PM LIGHTS AND SIGNALING AND DIDN'T LET A CONSTANT STREAM OF
03:15:55PM PEDESTRIANS, THAT IT WOULD CLEAR IT UP.
03:15:58PM THE PROBLEM IS, BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T TURN RIGHT, THE LEFT
03:16:02PM LANES ON THE CONVENTION CENTERS ARE OPEN.
03:16:04PM BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T TURN RIGHT MOSTLY TO GO TO HARBOUR
03:16:08PM ISLAND, IT IS BACKED UP ALMOST EVERY DAY TO HOWARD AVENUE.
03:16:12PM AND YESTERDAY WAS BACKED UP -- ALSO A SIGNALING PROBLEM ON
03:16:16PM BAY TO BAY ON BAYSHORE.
03:16:18PM BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO GANDY YESTERDAY.
03:16:21PM WE GOT TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
03:16:23PM AND I HAVE TALKED TO EXPERTS.
03:16:24PM I TALKED TO OTHER MAJOR PLAYERS DOWNTOWN.
03:16:27PM I TALKED TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
03:16:29PM AND THEY WANT -- EVERYBODY AGREES TO A -- TO ATTRACT PLAN.
03:16:33PM AND SOMEHOW WE NEEDS TO ENFORCE IT.
03:16:36PM AND I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW EITHER THE PLAN IS NOT WORKING,
03:16:40PM OR IT IS BEING HAPHAZARDLY IMPLEMENTED.
03:16:45PM I WAS AT AN EVENT THE AMALIE ARENA.
03:16:50PM AND STARTED HEADED SOUTH TO GET OUT, THE POLICE REDIRECT MY
03:16:55PM -- A BLOCK LATER DIRECT ME BACK TO AMALIE ARENA AND I HAD TO
03:17:00PM GO BACK AROUND AGAIN.
03:17:01PM WE ARE A LARGE CITY.
03:17:03PM AND WE SHOULD OPEN THE ROADS.
03:17:05PM WE SHOULDN'T CLOSE ROADS AT ALL, MAYBE WITHIN ONE OR THREE
03:17:10PM BLOCKS.
03:17:10PM BUT SHOULDN'T BE BLOCKING DOWNTOWN.
03:17:12PM OTHER BIG CITIES DON'T DO THAT.
03:17:14PM AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER -- I BROUGHT SOME THREE
03:17:19PM OR FOUR TIMES TO CITY COUNCIL.
03:17:20PM NOTHING IS HAPPENING.
03:17:24PM LIKE I SAID, SEVERAL TIMES BROUGHT UP.
03:17:26PM UP TALKED TO STAKEHOLDERS DOWNTOWN.
03:17:28PM NO BECAUSE OF THE CUMBERLAND GARAGE WASN'T BUILT AND NOT
03:17:33PM PLANNED TO BUILT.
03:17:34PM NOT BECAUSE PRECIOUS SIGNAGE PROGRAM WAS NOT APPROVED
03:17:37PM BECAUSE MODERN-DAY EVENTS GOING BACK TEN YEARS.
03:17:41PM PEOPLE REBOOKED THEIR PARKING GOING TO PLACES LIKE AMALIE
03:17:46PM ARENA.
03:17:46PM SHOULD BE VERY FEW PEOPLE SHOWING UP AT THE CONVENTION
03:17:51PM CENTER HAPHAZARDLY LOOKING FOR PARKING.
03:17:53PM BECAUSE THAT SIGNAL AT FRANKLIN STREET IS NOT CONTROLLED
03:17:57PM PROPERLY.
03:17:57PM WHAT IS THE NEXT ONE, NEXT STREET, FLORIDA.
03:18:01PM THAT SUN WITH NOT BEING CONTROLLED.
03:18:03PM CAN'T GET TO THE PAM IORIO GARAGE AND TURN RIGHT TO GET TO
03:18:08PM HARBOUR ISLAND.
03:18:09PM THIS IS A TRI-CITIES IN AND OUT COMMUNITY.
03:18:12PM NOT TALKING TO YOU ABOUT YOU TALKING TO THE TV THAT I HOPE
03:18:14PM THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND MAYOR DOES SOMETHING.
03:18:17PM THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I GET ARE POTHOLES, BUT CATCHING UP
03:18:22PM QUICKLY ARE TRAFFIC JAMS.
03:18:24PM PEOPLE ARE STUCK IN TRAFFIC.
03:18:26PM DOING THAT FOREVER ON 275.
03:18:29PM EVERY TIME THEY EXPAND IT, IT GETS FILLED UP AGAIN.
03:18:32PM HAPPENING ALL THROUGHOUT OUR ARTERIAL ROADS.
03:18:35PM WE GOT -- WE GOT TO FIX THIS SHOWER.
03:18:38PM AND THERE IS NOT -- WE CAN'T PUT IN RAIL AND BUSES RIGHT NOW
03:18:43PM BECAUSE NO MONEY TO DO THAT.
03:18:44PM BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS FIX THIS TRAFFIC JAM IN DOWNTOWN BY
03:18:48PM NOT HAPHAZARDLY SHUTTING DOWN THE ROADS.
03:18:51PM AND GOING TO MAKE ANY OTHER MOTION ON THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT I
03:18:55PM APPEAL THAT CONSTITUENTS ARE WATCHING STARTING TO SEND
03:19:02PM E-MAILS TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE THE MAYOR.
03:19:04PM YOU GOT TO FIX THIS.
03:19:06PM WE HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH MOBILITY.
03:19:07PM GRIDLOCK ALL OVER THE CITY.
03:19:09PM POTHOLES ALL OVER THE CITY.
03:19:11PM ROADS FALLING APART.
03:19:13PM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE MOBILITY ARE SPENDING TIME ARGUING
03:19:20PM ABOUT A RED LIGHT ON FRANKLIN STREET.
03:19:22PM SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ENGINEERS TO FIGHT THE
03:19:25PM CITY OVER A RED LIGHT WE DON'T NEED, THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WE
03:19:29PM DON'T NEED.
03:19:29PM AND -- AND INSTEAD, THEY SHOULD BE FIXING THESE PROBLEMS.
03:19:33PM TELL THE POLICE WHO ARE THERE TO OPERATE THE PLAN.
03:19:36PM TELL THEM NOT TO SHUT DOWN THE ROAD HAPHAZARDLY.
03:19:39PM GO TO NO NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
03:19:43PM SOME OF THE WORST ROADS EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY.
03:19:46PM IT IS RIDICULOUS THIS IS HAPPENING.
03:19:48PM WE GOT TO PRIORITIZE.
03:19:49PM AGAIN, I WOULD APPEAL TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
03:19:52PM PLEASE STEP IN.
03:19:53PM WE GOT TO REORGANIZE.
03:19:55PM YOU KNOW WE HAVE MORALE ISSUES AND STAFFING ISSUES SINCE THE
03:20:01PM LADIES TESTIFIED.
03:20:02PM A FLOOD OF FORMER EMPLOYEES.
03:20:03PM I KNOW 12 OF THE SENIOR MANAGERS OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT
03:20:07PM HAVE LEFT BECAUSE THEY ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE
03:20:10PM BEING RUN.
03:20:11PM THE COMMUNITY IS UNHAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE RUNNING.
03:20:14PM WHEN IS THE MAJOR GOING TO CHANGE IT.
03:20:17PM PUBLIC IS FED-UP.
03:20:19PM NOT DIRECTING FOR YOU.
03:20:20PM THANK YOU FOR STANDING IN FRONT OF US, AND I HOPE THAT YOU
03:20:23PM CONTINUE TO HELP US IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, BUT SYSTEMIC
03:20:28PM ISSUES THAT WE NEED LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY.
03:20:30PM NOT CITY COUNCIL'S PLACE.
03:20:31PM ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK.
03:20:33PM WE ARE GETTING HIT BY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF COMPLAINTS
03:20:36PM ABOUT THIS.
03:20:36PM THANK YOU.
03:20:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN.
03:20:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW.
03:20:42PM I WAS GOING TO SAY I AGREE WITH THE BILL FOR 100% AND
03:20:47PM THEN YOU PIVOTED.
03:20:48PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, THE ISSUE HE SPEAKS OF DOWNTOWN, HE
03:20:52PM IS 100% CORRECT.
03:21:01PM AND I HAVE ACTUALLY STOPPED MY CAR AT LEAST TWO TIMES AND
03:21:07PM SPOKE TO THE POLICE OFFICER AT THE CORN OF FRANKLIN -- WHAT
03:21:10PM IS IT -- PLATT?
03:21:12PM IS IT PLATT?
03:21:14PM FRANKLIN AND PLATT.
03:21:15PM YOU WOULD THINK THAT I DIDN'T LIVE ANOTHER FOR 40 SOMETHING
03:21:20PM YEARS.
03:21:20PM WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING?
03:21:22PM THEY HOLD UP TRAFFIC.
03:21:23PM CAUSE THE BACK-UP.
03:21:24PM AGAIN, IF THEY -- IF THEY CORRALL PEOPLE, LET THEM GO WITH
03:21:29PM THE LIGHTS, THINGS WILL MOVE.
03:21:30PM BUT THEY DON'T.
03:21:31PM IT IS PROBLEMATIC.
03:21:33PM ON TOP OF THAT COMING OFF THE CROSSTOWN AT MORGAN, THEY
03:21:36PM FORCE PEOPLE TO MAKE THE RIGHT TURN NORTHBOUND PUTTING THEM
03:21:39PM BACK INTO THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA TRAFFIC COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM
03:21:42PM INSTEAD OF LETTING TRAFFIC GO ON THE ONE-WAY STREET
03:21:46PM STRAIGHT AHEAD.
03:21:47PM AND NO SIGNAGE ON THE CROSSTOWN INDICATING THAT YOU CAN'T GO
03:21:53PM OFF AND GO STRAIGHT.
03:21:54PM AGAIN, THEY FORCE INTO DOWNTOWN WHICH BACKS UP KENNEDY AND
03:21:58PM ALL THESE CROSS STREETS.
03:21:59PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON AND IS THIS A
03:22:02PM TAMPA PD ISSUE.
03:22:03PM A MOBILITY ISSUE.
03:22:04PM SOME LEVEL OF INCOMPETENCE THAT IS ABSOLUTELY DRIVING ME
03:22:08PM CRAZY WHEN I WITNESS IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
03:22:11PM JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:22:13PM I AM -- WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM?
03:22:18PM COMING FROM MOBILITY OR TAMPA PD?
03:22:21PM >> WE WORK WITH TP IN CONCERT ON THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN.
03:22:24PM AND SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE ISSUE OF THE RAMP ON TO BOREIN.
03:22:30PM HISTORICALLY, THAT THROUGH MOVEMENT HAS BEEN CLOSED OFF.
03:22:34PM FAIRLY RECENTLY, WE HAVE BEEN OPENING THAT BACK UP.
03:22:38PM THAT IS ONE OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE COME OUT --
03:22:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO AM COMING FROM EAST TO WEST, COMING OFF
03:22:44PM THE CROSSTOWN, AND -- WHERE THEY MAKE YOU TURN RIGHT ON TO
03:22:49PM MORGAN IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
03:22:52PM >> YES.
03:22:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE KEEPING THAT OPEN?
03:22:56PM >> YES, CORRECT.
03:22:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CURSE YOU OUT EVERY TIME I GET ON THAT
03:23:00PM CROSSTOWN.
03:23:01PM >> THAT IS OUR COOPERATION.
03:23:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK SAY I HAD SOMETHING ABOUT TO THE
03:23:08PM CHIEF AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND VIK.
03:23:10PM AS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID THAT INTERSECTION AT FRANKLIN
03:23:15PM AND PLATT.
03:23:16PM IT IS A MESS.
03:23:17PM AND SEEMS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT IT IS AN -- IT IS AS
03:23:22PM CONTROL ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE RESOLVED.
03:23:24PM BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE -- WHEN YOU HAVE THAT IMPACT, BACKING
03:23:29PM TRAFFIC DOWN BAYSHORE, YOU KNOW, PAST ROME OR MORE, I MEAN,
03:23:34PM CLEARLY YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
03:23:35PM BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT IS A ONE-WAY STREET.
03:23:38PM TRAFFIC IS ABLE TO FLOW ON A ONE-WAY STREET.
03:23:41PM AND YOU HAVE CYCLE LIGHTS.
03:23:43PM AS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID, USED THE CYCLE OF LIGHTS.
03:23:48PM AT LEAST IT SHOULD BE FLOWING, INSTEAD OF JUST COMPLETE
03:23:53PM GRIDLOCK.
03:23:53PM >> AT THAT INTERSECTION, I THINK YOU KNOW WE DID CHANGE THE
03:23:56PM PHASING AND REDUCED THE CROSSING TIME ACROSS THAT SOUTH
03:24:02PM LAKE, AND ADDED THE RIGHT TURN ARROW.
03:24:05PM THERE IS STILL A COMPLIANCE COMPONENT TO THAT MAYBE IS NOT
03:24:09PM ALWAYS FOLLOWED.
03:24:10PM WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT CHANGE.
03:24:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WON'T GIVE YOU ONE POSITIVE FEEDBACK OF
03:24:18PM IT BECAUSE IT IS STILL A MESS.
03:24:20PM IT IS ABSOLUTELY -- IT SHOULDN'T BE ROCKET SCIENCE.
03:24:23PM IT IS -- AGAIN, I -- I NEVER STOP.
03:24:26PM I NEVER CRITICIZE PEOPLE BECAUSE I AM A BIG SUPPORTER OF THE
03:24:29PM TAMPA PD.
03:24:30PM BUT I SAID, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING?
03:24:33PM THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
03:24:35PM IT IS JUST -- I SIT HERE AND WATCH THIS.
03:24:37PM I WAS SITTING THERE IN THE LEFT LANE AND WATCH WHAT THEY ARE
03:24:40PM DOING, AND I AM GOING, IT IS TERRIBLE.
03:24:42PM JUST TERRIBLE.
03:24:43PM TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE.
03:24:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA AND HURTAK.
03:24:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
03:24:48PM KNOW I AM A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
03:24:50PM IN FACT I AM A LOT DIFFERENT.
03:24:53PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM, WHAT CAUSED IT?
03:24:58PM IT AIN'T THE CARS.
03:24:59PM IT IS NOT THE INTERSECTION.
03:25:02PM IT IS NOT THE POTHOLES.
03:25:05PM SO WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE.
03:25:06PM IT IS NOT A HARD THING TO FIGURE OUT.
03:25:10PM JUST YESTERDAY I WAS IN TOWN AND COUNTRY ABOUT 5:15, 5:20, I
03:25:15PM STARTED HEADED EAST.
03:25:16PM ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
03:25:18PM BY THE TIME I GOT TO THE SECOND RUNWAY TO THE EAST OF TAMPA
03:25:23PM INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, FROM THERE TO HABANA WHICH CAN'T BE
03:25:27PM MORE THAN THREE HOURS, IT TOOK ME 42 MINUTES TO GET THERE.
03:25:30PM YOU KNOW WHY?
03:25:33PM IT WASN'T THE PEOPLE.
03:25:34PM IT WASN'T THE CARS.
03:25:35PM IT WAS THE TRAFFIC.
03:25:36PM WHAT WAS THE POPULATION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA 15 YEARS AGO?
03:25:41PM WHAT WAS IT FIVE YEARS AGO?
03:25:43PM WHAT WAS IT THREE YEARS AGO?
03:25:44PM HOW MANY CARS -- YOU CAN'T LOOK AT TAMPA, YOU HAVE TO LOOK
03:25:49PM AT THE SURROUNDING GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OF ST. PETE.
03:25:52PM WHY DO YOU THINK BUILT A NEW BRIDGE -- THE HOWARD FRANKLAN,D
03:25:56PM BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BUILD IT?
03:25:59PM I KEPT SAYING IF YOU EXTEND THE FREEWAY, DON'T WORRY, YOU
03:26:02PM WILL LIVE IT.
03:26:04PM AND WON'T CHANGE EVERYONE'S HABIT UNTIL YOU MAKE THEM DO IT.
03:26:08PM THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.
03:26:09PM IT IS NOT THE CARS BUT THE PEOPLE THANK HAVE COME IN TO
03:26:14PM PASCO, PINELLAS COUNTY, BRADENTON AND SARASOTA.
03:26:18PM ALL OF THAT AREA MOVES AROUND ON A DAILY BASIS.
03:26:21PM IT GETS THERE ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE -- AND HAY IT TO TALK
03:26:25PM TO SCHOOLS ARE NOW -- WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL A BICYCLE OR
03:26:30PM WALK.
03:26:31PM NOW EVERYBODY DRIVES TO SCHOOL.
03:26:32PM THE PARENT DROPS OFF THE LITTLE KID, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
03:26:36PM TALKING ABOUT WESTSHORE AND ALL THAT.
03:26:39PM JULIA AND WESTSHORE AND YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE IN THE
03:26:43PM MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON WITH ONE OF THE NICEST FEMALE
03:26:46PM SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY LET'S OUT.
03:26:48PM YOU CAN'T GET IN.
03:26:49PM AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT.
03:26:50PM YOU DO THE SAME THING ON BOSS PRE AND ARMENIA.
03:26:57PM YOU DO THE SAME THING ON HIMES THE OTHER SCHOOL.
03:27:04PM YOU DO THE SAME THING WHERE EVERYBODY DRIVES.
03:27:07PM AND THE PROBLEM CAN BE NOT BE SAYING FIX IT.
03:27:12PM THE PROBLEM IS, HOW DO YOU FIX IT.
03:27:14PM NOT JUST YOU -- YOU ARE JUST A RAT TAKING A HEAT.
03:27:18PM I HATE TO TELL YOU LOST FOUR INCHES SINCE YOU STARTED TALKING.
03:27:22PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND IT IS OUR
03:27:25PM PROBLEM.
03:27:25PM NOT YOUR PROBLEM.
03:27:26PM IT IS EVERYBODY'S PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:27:28PM WE HAVE GROWN SO FAST AND SO RAPIDLY THAT IT IS LIKE A
03:27:33PM GROWTH SPURT ON A TEENAGE THAT CAN'T FIND HIS WAY TO PLAY
03:27:39PM BASKETBALL BECAUSE THE BODY IS SO BIG -- GREW UP AND
03:27:43PM SAILED OOH, I AM AN ALL-AMERICAN.
03:27:44PM THE SAME THING.
03:27:45PM YOU HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS AND DIFFERENT -- EVERYBODY WANTS A
03:27:48PM CAR.
03:27:48PM THAT IS WHAT LIFE IS.
03:27:50PM I AM NOT SAYING IT IS THE RIGHT THING, BUT I AM SAYING THE
03:27:54PM PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE OUTGROWN ALL OF OUR FACILITIES.
03:27:58PM AND LET ME TELL YOU ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE NEVER BROUGHT
03:28:00PM UP.
03:28:00PM YOU THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM NOW?
03:28:03PM WHAT ABOUT 30 TO 40 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN YOU RUN OUT OF
03:28:07PM WATER.
03:28:07PM 20 YEARS AGO, OUR POPULATION -- 30 YEARS AGO, POPULATION
03:28:13PM 250,000.
03:28:14PM NOW WE ARE SERVING NOT ONLY US BUT THE FED, THE STATE MADE
03:28:19PM US -- LINE GOING OUT TO THE COUNTY.
03:28:21PM WE HAVE OVER 700,000 OF 250.
03:28:24PM GUESS WHAT.
03:28:25PM IT WAS 82 MILLION GALLONS THEN.
03:28:30PM A 82 GALLONS NOW.
03:28:32PM IF YOU HAVE A MINIATURE DROUGHT, YOU WILL BUY A LOT OF
03:28:35PM WATER.
03:28:35PM THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO TELL YOU.
03:28:38PM NOT TELL YOU FROM WHERE AND HOW.
03:28:40PM AND THEY WILL SAY MIRANDA DID THIS ON PURPOSE.
03:28:43PM I AM BRINGING THE FACTS ARE THAT.
03:28:45PM THOSE ARE THE FACTS.
03:28:47PM YOU WANT TO SOLVE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, TAKE 40% OF THE CARS OFF.
03:28:54PM THAT THE INCREASE YOU HAD.
03:28:55PM AND YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM.
03:28:57PM YOU WON'T WANT TO LIVE LONG, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO
03:29:00PM DRIVE A CAR.
03:29:01PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
03:29:02PM YOU FACILITATE EVERYTHING THE BEST YOU CAN.
03:29:05PM WE HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT IS NOT LASERED IN.
03:29:08PM TWO CARS ARE IN.
03:29:09PM AND UNTIL WE GET FIVE CARS.
03:29:11PM WE DON'T HAVE NONE OF THAT EQUIPMENT I KNOW OF.
03:29:14PM I KNOW IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND PUT IN ONE AREA.
03:29:16PM THOSE THINGS ARE NEEDED AND THOSE THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE.
03:29:20PM A BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL -- EVERYBODY INVENTS SOMETHING NEW
03:29:24PM AND BECOMES MULTIMILLIONAIRES AND WHAT MAKE IS ALL ABOUT.
03:29:29PM I WILL STOP NOW.
03:29:31PM THANK YOU FOR LET ME SPEAK, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:29:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:29:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:29:37PM PROBLEM IS CARS.
03:29:39PM I DISAGREE, EVERYBODY WANTS A CAR.
03:29:41PM IF I COULD GET RID OF MY CAR TOMORROW, I WOULD.
03:29:44PM I KIND OF DO, BECAUSE I TAKE THE BUS EVERYWHERE AND HOP ON A
03:29:48PM BIKE.
03:29:48PM BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS, IS THERE A TIME THAT WE
03:29:52PM CAN JUST SIMPLY TRY NOT PUTTING THE BARRIERS UP?
03:29:55PM LIKE ONE WEEKEND WHERE WE CAN GO, LET'S GIVE IT AGREE?
03:30:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
03:30:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM SERIOUSLY ASKING BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT
03:30:04PM EVERYONE IS SAYING.
03:30:05PM IS THERE A WAY WE CAN JUST TRY IT.
03:30:07PM AND THEN IF WE ARE WRONG, WE OWN UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE
03:30:11PM JUST HAD TO GIVE IT AGREE.
03:30:13PM >> I THINK I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO TPD ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS
03:30:17PM ABOUT THAT.
03:30:17PM WE WORKED TO TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PRODUCT THAT IS PUT
03:30:21PM OUT.
03:30:21PM BUT, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF THOSE
03:30:26PM IMPLEMENTING AND ENFORCING IT AS WELL.
03:30:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, WELL MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO
03:30:31PM HAVE IS TO HAVE MOBILITY AND TPD COMES IN.
03:30:34PM I THINK THAT JUST ONCE, LET'S GIVE IT A ONE-WEEK OR THREE
03:30:39PM DAY -- SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO SAY, OKAY, JUST PROVE US
03:30:43PM WRONG.
03:30:43PM BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE PUT SOME THINGS BACK
03:30:46PM THAT HAVE WORKED, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST -- WOULD LOVE TO HEAR
03:30:52PM WHAT TPD HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
03:30:54PM BECAUSE IF IT IS NOT JUST Y'ALL, CURIOUS WHAT THEY WILL HAVE
03:30:58PM TO SAY.
03:30:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEE WHAT I DO TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC
03:31:02PM CONGESTION IS I JUST WALK DOWN TO AMALIE AND WALK TO THE
03:31:06PM CONVENTION CENTER AND TAKE THE STREETCAR INTO YBOR.
03:31:09PM AND I DON'T SIT IN TRAFFIC, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS ME.
03:31:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REFERENCE ABOUT TAKING CARS OFF THE
03:31:17PM STREETS.
03:31:18PM FOR THOSE OF US WHO SERVE ON TPO, THEY WILL TELL YOU IT IS A
03:31:22PM PRIORITIZATION ISSUE.
03:31:24PM WE HAD SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVES OF
03:31:28PM THE CITY OF TAMPA VOTE TO SPEND A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS TO
03:31:33PM ADD ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC BETWEEN HILLSBOROUGH AND BEARSS.
03:31:38PM ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC.
03:31:39PM DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CARS WE CAN TAKE OFF THE ROADS IN THE
03:31:44PM CITY OF TAMPA WITH HALF A BILLION WITH OTHER MIXED MODAL
03:31:47PM TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS?
03:31:48PM HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.
03:31:49PM THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.
03:31:51PM WE SERVE WITH FOLKS THAT ARE BEHOLDENED TO AN OLD MODEL OF
03:31:55PM MOVING PEOPLE AROUND INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT NEW
03:31:58PM OPPORTUNITIES.
03:31:58PM I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE
03:32:03PM FROM COHEN AND KEMP AT THE TIME AND THE THREE OF US SERVE
03:32:08PM ON PTO -- AND COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS AS WELL.
03:32:16PM WE ALL VOTED AGAINST IT AND THE FOLKS FROM THE NONELECTED
03:32:18PM PEOPLE AND FOLKS FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION VOTED IN FAVOR
03:32:21PM OF IT.
03:32:21PM AGAIN, A PRIORITIZATION ISSUE.
03:32:24PM I AM SORRY, I KNOW YOU ARE STANDING THERE TAKING ALL THE
03:32:27PM HEAT BECAUSE MOST OF THIS STUFF DOES NOT CONCERN YOU AND MY
03:32:32PM MOMENT TO PONTIFICATE OF YOU WITH THAT.
03:32:34PM AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, WE BALANCE OUT THE GREATEST
03:32:37PM AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
03:32:39PM WHAT WOULD THE CITY -- AND AM I ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO
03:32:45PM PUTTING LANE OF TRAFFIC.
03:32:47PM NO.
03:32:47PM WE HAVE TO BALANCE OUT.
03:32:48PM GIVE ME A HALF A BILLION.
03:32:50PM WHERE ON MY PRIORITY LIST WILL ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC BE WAY
03:32:55PM DOWN IN THE BOTTOM OF LIST.
03:32:56PM I WOULD HAVE FULFILLED 30 OTHERS THINGS BEFORE HE SPENT HALF
03:32:59PM A BILLION DOLLARS TO ADD ONE DAMN LANE OF TRAFFIC ON
03:33:03PM TO I-275 BETWEEN HILLS AND BEARSS.
03:33:07PM PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THAT SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES
03:33:10PM AND INDICATION OF LACK OF RESPECT AND LACK OF UNDERSTANDING
03:33:13PM HOW WE MOVE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:33:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY MORE?
03:33:18PM YES, SIR?
03:33:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE LAST THING.
03:33:20PM I KNOW THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT IS ON VACATION.
03:33:23PM AND WELL-DESERVED.
03:33:25PM BUT, YOU KNOW, HE HAS A BOSS.
03:33:28PM AND THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS SHOULD BE HERE.
03:33:30PM AND I DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY INVITE TPD.
03:33:34PM AND I HAVE THE GREATEST RESPECT FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, BUT
03:33:36PM THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN DIRECTION BY SOMEBODY, BECAUSE THE
03:33:40PM PLAN THAT IS THERE THIS JUST NOT WORKING.
03:33:42PM AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS ISN'T
03:33:46PM HERE.
03:33:46PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS IS NOT
03:33:50PM FIXING THE PROBLEM.
03:33:51PM GO TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND MAYOR FOR GO AHEAD AND FIX THIS
03:33:55PM DEPARTMENT.
03:33:55PM I AM TO THE POINT I WILL STOP VOTING FOR ANY NEW FUNDING FOR
03:33:58PM ANY PROBLEMS FOR MOBILITY UNTIL SOMEBODY FIXES PROBLEM IN
03:34:01PM MOBILITY.
03:34:02PM THIS IS A HUGE SYSTEMIC ISSUE.
03:34:04PM WE HAVE APPARENTLY GOT TO START MAKING SOME BIG DECISIONS TO
03:34:08PM GET -- GET MOVEMENT HERE.
03:34:10PM THE PUBLIC IS NOT HAPPY AT ALL.
03:34:12PM AND WE HAVE GOT-TO-FIX THIS.
03:34:14PM AGAIN, IT IS NOT YOUR ISSUE, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, THE MAYOR
03:34:20PM AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF HAVE SAID STOP FIGHTING US.
03:34:24PM STOP FIGHTING NEIGHBORHOODS ON SOMETHING LIKE A RED LIGHT
03:34:27PM AND START DEMANDING THAT -- THAT THE BETTER TRAFFIC PLAN BE
03:34:31PM MANAGED.
03:34:32PM TAKE YOU TO THE THESE PASSENGERS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
03:34:35PM BIG CITIES DON'T DO THIS.
03:34:37PM WE ARE ACTING LIKE A SMALL TOWN IN THE WAY WE ARE MANAGING
03:34:40PM IT.
03:34:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:34:42PM THANK YOU MUCH.
03:34:44PM OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGE IS ABBYE FEELEY.
03:34:46PM TWO?
03:34:48PM WHICH IS THE OTHER ONE.
03:34:49PM SO, IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
03:34:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS GONE.
03:34:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, YES, MISS FEELEY, GO AHEAD.
03:35:04PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
03:35:15PM ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
03:35:18PM OPPORTUNITY.
03:35:18PM I'M HERE WITH THE MONTHLY UPDATE ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
03:35:22PM CODE UPDATE.
03:35:23PM AND I AM -- I AM EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE PUBLIC
03:35:27PM ASSESSMENT OF THE CODE WENT OUT ON FEBRUARY 12.
03:35:30PM AND WHAT I PROVIDED FOR YOU TODAY IS -- IS A QUICK HANDOUT
03:35:36PM THAT HAS THE THEMES OF THAT ASSESSMENT.
03:35:39PM WHAT THE ASSESSMENT DOES IS IT LOOKS AT HOW OUR CODE WAS
03:35:46PM WORKING AND HOW OUR CODE WAS NOT WORKING AND DEVELOPED A
03:35:49PM ROADMAP FOR HOW THE UPDATE IS GOING TO GO.
03:35:51PM AND THAT IS THE PROJECT THEMES THAT ARE CONTAINED ON THE
03:35:55PM HANDOFF.
03:35:55PM THAT WILL SERVE AS A ROADMAP FOR HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
03:35:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU PUT THAT ON THE --
03:36:02PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SURE.
03:36:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN -- NO, WOLF.
03:36:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAD A HAWK, A DOG AND A WOLF.
03:36:11PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: EACH MONTH, THEY COME TO YOU.
03:36:16PM I GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE.
03:36:19PM WHAT IS GOING ON.
03:36:20PM THE ADVISORY TEAM DID MEET ON THE ASSESSMENT.
03:36:22PM THEY HAD TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS.
03:36:24PM I KNOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS PRESENT FOR BOTH OF
03:36:27PM THOSE.
03:36:27PM WHERE THEY PROVIDED FEEDBACK.
03:36:29PM AND THE -- AND OUR CONSULTANT TEAM DID MAKE SOME
03:36:34PM MODIFICATIONS BEFORE THE ASSESSMENT THEN BECAME A PUBLIC
03:36:39PM DOCUMENT.
03:36:39PM BECAUSE THAT IS OUT NOW ON THE TAMPA FORWARD WEBSITE.
03:36:42PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS A SURVEY INSTRUMENT OUT THERE
03:36:46PM THAT GOES THEME BY THEME TO ASK THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR
03:36:50PM FEEDBACK.
03:36:51PM WE ARE NOW WORKING TO GET READY FOR THE NEXT PUBLIC MEETING,
03:36:54PM WHICH WILL BE MARCH AT THE CITY CENTER FROM 7 TO 8:30.
03:36:59PM CLARION WILL BE PRESENTING.
03:37:01PM BUT REMEMBER AT MY MONTHLY UPDATE LAST MONTH, I HAD ASKED --
03:37:05PM WE HAD HOPED THAT THE PUBLIC MEETING WAS GOING TO BE
03:37:08PM FEBRUARY.
03:37:09PM AND A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL WITH CLARION ON FEBRUARY 6.
03:37:15PM HOWEVER, THE ADVISORY TEAM DID HAVE AN EXTRA MEETING AND
03:37:18PM PUSHED BECAUSE BACK A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF THAT IN ORDER
03:37:22PM TO ALLOW USES TO HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ON THE ASSESSMENT.
03:37:24PM SO MARCH 3 WILL BE THE PUBLIC MEETING AT HANNAH.
03:37:28PM AND MARCH 6, CLARION WILL BE COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO
03:37:32PM MAKE A BRIEF 15- TO 20-MINUTE PRESENTATION TO BRING
03:37:37PM YOU INTO THE DISCUSSION OF WHERE WE ARE ON THIS CONTRACT AND
03:37:40PM THE CODE UPDATE.
03:37:41PM AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.
03:37:42PM SO THE NEXT STEPS -- AND ON THE BACK OF THAT HAND OUT, THERE
03:37:48PM IS A TIMELINE.
03:37:49PM AND IT SHOWS YOU HERE WE ARE.
03:37:51PM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC TOUCHPOINTS DURING THIS PROJECT.
03:37:55PM AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE BEEN UPDATING THE WEB SITE.
03:37:59PM WE NOW DO A MONTHLY ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE WEBSITE.
03:38:02PM THIS MONTH, I AM THERE DOING A QUICK VIDEO ASKING FOR PEOPLE
03:38:05PM TO COME OUT TO THE MEETING.
03:38:07PM TELLING THEM WHAT THE ASSESSMENT IS ABOUT.
03:38:09PM SO WHEN WE -- THE NEXT STEP WILL BE THE CODE UPDATE.
03:38:15PM AND THAT WILL COME IN THREE DIFFERENT INSTALLMENTS AND EACH.
03:38:18PM AS YOU ALL KNOW OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS QUITE LARGE.
03:38:22PM AND IN THIS STREAMLINING AND REORGANIZATION, IT WILL COME IN
03:38:27PM THREE INSTALLMENTS.
03:38:28PM EACH OF THOSE INSTALLMENTS WILL GO TO THE ADVISORY TEAM AND
03:38:32PM GO TO THE PUBLIC AND THE SAME FORMAT THAT WE ARE DOING WITH
03:38:36PM THE ASSESSMENT AS WELL.
03:38:37PM SO ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS NOW UP ON THE TAMPA FORWARD
03:38:41PM PAGE AS WELL.
03:38:42PM AND WE ARE MOVING -- WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
03:38:46PM WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING.
03:38:48PM SO FOR MARCH 6, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE
03:38:54PM -- I THINK WHEN WE WERE COMING BACK ON FEBRUARY 6, YOU HAD
03:38:57PM GIVEN US AS TIME CERTAIN FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
03:39:00PM AND IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
03:39:01PM AS YOU KNOW, CLARION IS ON CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, AND I AM
03:39:05PM TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THE HOURS THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO
03:39:12PM BE THERE.
03:39:12PM THEY WILL BE IN TOWN THAT MONDAY AND WILL BE IN TOWN THAT
03:39:15PM THURSDAY.
03:39:15PM THEY ARE WORKING ON OTHER CONTRACTUAL THINGS TUESDAY AND
03:39:19PM WEDNESDAY, AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE LIKE 10:30 ON FEBRUARY 6.
03:39:22PM BUT IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, I WOULD REALLY
03:39:26PM APPRECIATE THAT.
03:39:27PM IF NOT --
03:39:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU MEAN MARCH 6?
03:39:31PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: MARCH 6.
03:39:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 6 AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:39:35PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT WILL BE GREAT.
03:39:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT GOOD WITH COUNCIL?
03:39:40PM A MOTION FOR CLARION TO BE AVAILABLE RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC
03:39:43PM COMMENT ON MARCH 6, WHICH A REGULAR MEETING.
03:39:46PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:39:50PM BILL CARLSON: SHE WAS SUGGESTING A TIME CERTAIN FOR 10:30.
03:39:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR CALENDARS FOR THAT DAY.
03:39:57PM YOU HAVE A REVIEW HEARING SCHEDULE FOR 10:30.
03:40:00PM AND YOU HAVE ORDINANCES SCHEDULED FOR SECOND READING.
03:40:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT IT IS ALREADY ON HERE.
03:40:05PM LAST THING UNDER STAFF REPORT.
03:40:07PM WE ARE ASKING IT TO BE MOVED UP.
03:40:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY.
03:40:10PM HE UNDERSTAND -- FRANKLY, I WOULD THINK -- I DON'T KNOW
03:40:13PM WHETHER YOU WANT TO -- -- IF YOU SET IT FOR 10 D 30, TO
03:40:19PM CONFLICT WITH THE REVIEW HEARING.
03:40:20PM WOULD YOU PULL THIS FOR THE REVIEW HEARING OR DO THE
03:40:23PM REVIEWER HEARING.
03:40:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DIDN'T DO A TIME CERTAIN.
03:40:28PM AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:40:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE CLARION FIRST AND GO TO THE REVIEW
03:40:32PM HEARING.
03:40:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:40:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW LONG IT PRESENT.
03:40:37PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: 15 TO 20 MINUTES, YES.
03:40:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REVIEW HEARING IF IT IS A LITTLE BIT
03:40:42PM AFTER THE FACT, THEN -- BECAUSE THEY -- THEY CHARGE US AS
03:40:46PM THEY WAIT.
03:40:47PM DON'T THEY GO BY THE HOUR OR WHATEVER?
03:40:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I IMAGINE PUBLIC WILL WANT TO COMMENT.
03:40:55PM DO IT PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND GIVE THE PUBLIC AN
03:41:00PM OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT.
03:41:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONLY THING IS WE HAVE THREE PRESENTATIONS.
03:41:04PM WE WILL HAVE TO ASK FOR ONE OF THOSE PRESENTATIONS TO THE
03:41:07PM MOVED.
03:41:07PM PLAYER OF THE MONTH, FIRE FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER AND
03:41:11PM PURCHASING DEPARTMENT CELEBRATING PURCHASING MONTH.
03:41:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE MOVE PURCHASING?
03:41:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA'S MOTION.
03:41:20PM MOVE IT TO ANOTHER DATE COMPLETELY?
03:41:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEAH, WE CAN MOVE THAT.
03:41:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO THE 27th.
03:41:27PM WE HAVE ROOM ON THE 27th.
03:41:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEW BUSINESS.
03:41:30PM DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION NOW?
03:41:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
03:41:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THE PURCHASING
03:41:39PM DEPARTMENT PURCHASING MONTH COMMENDATION FROM MARCH 6 AT 9
03:41:43PM A.M. TO MARCH 27 AT 9 A.M.
03:41:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FINE WITH ME.
03:41:47PM I GUESS SENDING -- SEND AN E-MAIL TO THEM.
03:41:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT SUR WHY MOTION.
03:41:56PM A SECOND.
03:41:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
03:41:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:41:59PM THAT OPENS THAT UP.
03:42:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, CAN WE HAVE THAT MOTION AGAIN?
03:42:03PM BECAUSE THAT MOTION MOVED COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA'S.
03:42:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FROM THE 6 TO THE --
03:42:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS FEELEY, YOU ARE LAST ON THE STAFF
03:42:14PM REPORT.
03:42:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET ME DO THAT.
03:42:16PM I WILL MOVE THE CLARION LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REFORM PROCESS
03:42:20PM UPDATE TO THE 9 A.M. PRESENTATION FOR 15 TOO 20 MINUTES.
03:42:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WOULD NOT HAVE A CODE UPDATE FOR THAT YOU
03:42:28PM DAY, BECAUSE CLEARLY WE ARE GOING USE THAT TIME
03:42:32PM COLLABORATIVELY WITH CLARION TO PROVIDE THAT UPDATE.
03:42:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:42:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:42:38PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:42:39PM OPPOSED?
03:42:40PM YES.
03:42:40PM YES.
03:42:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
03:42:43PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ADDING THE ASSESSMENT, THE PUBLIC
03:42:47PM ASSESSMENT.
03:42:48PM THE PUBLIC -- THE VERSION OF THE ASSESSMENT ON THE TAMPA
03:42:51PM FORWARD PAGE.
03:42:52PM WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET THE ADVISORY MEETINGS TO BE POSTED
03:42:56PM ONLINE TOO.
03:42:57PM WHERE ARE WE ON THAT?
03:42:58PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WILL CHECK WITH COMMUNICATIONS.
03:43:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:43:02PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ON WHERE THOSE ARE.
03:43:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THOSE NEED TO BE POSTED.
03:43:05PM ANYBODY WHO REALLY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT IS IN THAT ASSESSMENT.
03:43:08PM THAT IS A GREAT PLACE FOR THEM TO START INSTEAD OF READING
03:43:12PM THE WHOLE ASSESSMENT.
03:43:13PM IF YOU CAN JUST GET BACK TO MY OFFICE AND LET ME KNOW WHERE
03:43:16PM WE ARE ON THAT, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
03:43:18PM THANK YOU.
03:43:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:43:20PM ANYTHING ELSE, MISS FEELEY?
03:43:22PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO, SIR, THANK YOU.
03:43:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA.
03:43:27PM NEW.
03:43:29PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:43:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A COUPLE, ASKING OFFICER WHITMER,
03:43:34PM CHARGED WITH SOLICITING BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR THINGS FOR
03:43:37PM THE CITY AND WORKING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO COME
03:43:42PM BEFORE US.
03:43:42PM I DON'T HAVE DATES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:43:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMEWHAT IS IT, AGAIN, SIR?
03:43:49PM >> INVITE THE CHIEF OF RESILIENCY AND SOLAR TO CHANGE THE
03:43:56PM ENERGY VALUES TO COME AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHAT -- WHAT
03:44:00PM THE COST WILL BE ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
03:44:02PM AND WE LOOKED AT THIS TODAY.
03:44:04PM WHAT WILL BE THE COST IN ALL OF THE PARKS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
03:44:08PM IS GOING ON.
03:44:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO APRIL 17.
03:44:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS FINE WITH ME.
03:44:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
03:44:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:44:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:44:17PM OPPOSED.
03:44:19PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:44:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WENT TO REFRESH MYSELF -- I WENT TO THE
03:44:23PM OFFICE AND CLEARED MY HEAD.
03:44:25PM I REALIZED I MADE A MISTAKE.
03:44:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
03:44:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, I DID.
03:44:29PM THE MISTAKE I NEVER INCLUDED THE 9% TO 14% OF ELECTRICITY
03:44:34PM GOING UP WHEN DISCUSSING THE ITEM OF SOLAR.
03:44:37PM ALSO, MADE ANOTHER MISTAKE, THAT COST IS CONSTANT WITH SOLAR.
03:44:40PM IT DOES NOT GO UP FOR THE YEAR -- 20-YEAR LIFE IT DOES NOT
03:44:44PM GO UP.
03:44:45PM I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE.
03:44:46PM YOU MADE A MISTAKE.
03:44:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO FORGIVE.
03:44:49PM GET A MOTION?
03:44:50PM NO?
03:44:51PM I WILL FORGIVE YOU.
03:44:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO CHASTISE CHARLIE MIRANDA FOR
03:44:56PM HIS MISTAKE.
03:44:58PM >> SECOND.
03:44:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LEAVE THE DRAGON ALONE.
03:45:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FORGIVENESS DIDN'T GET A SECOND.
03:45:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SEE WHO VOTES FOR THAT.
03:45:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:45:11PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:45:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUPLE OF QUICK ONES.
03:45:15PM YOU HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE
03:45:18PM RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE AND THE MOTION THAT PASSED.
03:45:22PM CHIEF BENEFIT THAT DOES A GOOD JOB OF TALKING TO PEOPLE AND
03:45:26PM BEING A BRIDGE BUILDER IS WORKING ON TAKING CARE OF THE
03:45:30PM ISSUE.
03:45:31PM THE MAIN ISSUE WAS -- I WON'T GO INTO THE WEEDS, BUT -- BUT
03:45:35PM THE COMMITTEE FEELING THAT THEY NEEDED SOME SUBJECT MATTER
03:45:38PM EXPERTS THERE.
03:45:39PM CHIEF BENNETT IS WORKING ON THEM WITH THAT.
03:45:42PM HOWEVER, TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS DOING,
03:45:45PM I WANTED THE MOTION TO FORWARD THE FOLLOWING MOTION BY THE
03:45:49PM RACIAL RECONCILLIATION MEETING TO ADMINISTRATION AND THE
03:45:53PM MOTION IS AS FOLLOWS: THAT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY FOR THE
03:45:57PM CITY OF TAMPA RACIAL RECONCILIATION MEETINGS GOING FORWARD.
03:46:02PM WE REQUEST THAT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT COMPLETES AN
03:46:05PM ANALYSIS WORKSHEET THAT CORRESPONDS TO THE AREA AND
03:46:12PM ADDRESSES THAT POLICY AREA AND ATTENDS THAT CORRESPONDING
03:46:17PM MEETING.
03:46:19PM THAT IS THE MOTION THEY PASSED.
03:46:20PM I AM JUST IN SUPPORT OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
03:46:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:46:23PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:46:25PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:46:26PM OPPOSED?
03:46:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
03:46:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, OF COURSE.
03:46:30PM I TRY TO GO TO THE MEETING.
03:46:31PM FIRST I DIDN'T BECAUSE OF A LEGAL CASE THING IN MISSOURI,
03:46:34PM THE OTHER TWO I HAVE BEEN IN.
03:46:35PM AND YOU KNOW -- IT IS NEAT TO WATCH ALL THAT.
03:46:38PM ANOTHER ONE THAT -- I HAVE A OF QUICK ONES.
03:46:43PM A COMMENDATION TO BE GIVEN OFF PREMISE TO FALERO RAMOS.
03:46:51PM HART WORKERS EVERY YEAR GO TO LOCATIONS.
03:46:53PM ONE YEAR, THEY HAD IN HILLSBOROUGH.
03:46:56PM ONE YEAR IN GAINESVILLE WHERE THEY DO A BUS RODEO AND THE
03:47:01PM BUS WORKER FALERO CAME IN FIRST, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL.
03:47:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS COOL.
03:47:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: KIND OF COOL.
03:47:08PM LIKE A MONSTER TRUCK THING BUT NOT REALLY.
03:47:11PM I LIKED IT.
03:47:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:47:17PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:47:18PM OPPOSED.
03:47:18PM YES, SIR.
03:47:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY QUICKLY.
03:47:21PM A MOTION -- I WAS TALKING TO STAFF ABOUT MEMORIAL AND
03:47:24PM MONUMENT POLICY, AND THEY WERE INTERESTED IN HAVING COUNCIL
03:47:28PM PROSPECTIVELY AUTHORIZE STAFF TO COME BACK AND BRING US TO A
03:47:31PM MEMORIAL AND MONUMENT POLICY.
03:47:33PM SO THEREFORE -- I CAN GET INTO WHAT THAT WILL BE.
03:47:36PM MOTION FOR STAFF FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AND THE
03:47:39PM CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE
03:47:41PM PROSPECTIVE ESTABLISHMENT OF A MONUMENT AND MORE THE POLICY
03:47:45PM OF OUTDOOR MONUMENTS IN THE CITY PROPERTY AND STAFF PROVIDE
03:47:49PM A WRITTEN REPORT OUTLINING POLICY PROPOSALS FOR MAY 15.
03:47:53PM THIS WILL BE ON -- ON -- THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE IN THE
03:47:57PM CITY OF TAMPA FOR MEMORIALS AND MONUMENTS.
03:48:00PM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MY UNDERSTAND THERE IS ONE.
03:48:03PM AND WE WILL HAVE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW
03:48:09PM WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
03:48:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:48:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
03:48:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK, CARLSON -- -- I MEAN CARLSON AND
03:48:18PM HURTAK.
03:48:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE GOING TO SAY THE
03:48:21PM SAME THING.
03:48:21PM WE WERE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
03:48:23PM STARTED TALKING OF NAMING AND A NAMING POLICY.
03:48:26PM THE ADMINISTRATION CAME UP WITH A WHOLE POLICY WHICH IS
03:48:30PM GREAT.
03:48:30PM AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAYS OH, THE MAYOR GETS TO IS HE
03:48:35PM SIDE.
03:48:36PM WITH WE HAD TO PUSH BACK FOR A YEAR ALLOWING EACH OF US,
03:48:39PM CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO NAME -- THE CHARTER IS SILENT
03:48:42PM TO IT.
03:48:43PM THE CHARTER IS SILENT TO MEMORIAL.
03:48:45PM SO I WOULD SAY TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND WHOEVER IS GOING
03:48:48PM TO DO THIS, PLEASE DON'T COME BACK WITH SOMETHING WE WILL
03:48:50PM HAVE TO EDIT AND ONLY THE MAYOR HAS THE POWER TO DO THIS.
03:48:54PM THANK YOU.
03:48:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:48:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY COMMENT IS WHEN STAFF COMES BACK, THEY
03:49:03PM ABSOLUTELY INVOLVE THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
03:49:06PM THAT IS THE ISSUE.
03:49:07PM PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS ARE COMING.
03:49:09PM SO THAT WILL BE A BIG, BIG ONE FOR ME.
03:49:11PM SO FOR THEM TO INCLUDE -- HOW THEY ARE GOING TO INVOLVEMENT
03:49:15PM COMMUNITY.
03:49:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: A GREAT EDITION AND I AM HOPEFUL THEY ARE
03:49:19PM WATCHING.
03:49:19PM THERE YOU GO.
03:49:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL TAKE A 15-FOOT EFFIGY OF MYSELF.
03:49:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:49:26PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:49:28PM LAST --
03:49:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE LAST ONE --
03:49:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE LAST ONE IS A MOTION YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE OF
03:49:33PM WEEKS AGO.
03:49:35PM LOCAL 754 TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS WERE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION
03:49:38PM FROM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO DO THEIR OWN PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER
03:49:42PM PLAN.
03:49:42PM ADMINISTRATION HAD DONE ONE IN 2022.
03:49:45PM THEY ARE WORKING ON UPDATING IT.
03:49:47PM LOCAL 754 WANTED CERTAIN INFORMATION AND REQUESTED IT
03:49:53PM THROUGH COUNCIL.
03:49:53PM I PUT IT MARCH 27.
03:49:55PM LET'S -- WHAT IS THE FIRST DATE IN APRIL?
03:49:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 3.
03:50:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF TFR NEEDS MORE TIME ON THIS, THAT IS
03:50:07PM TOTALLY FINE.
03:50:08PM MOTION OF THE FOLLOWING ASK OF 754 TO REQUEST A WRITTEN
03:50:12PM REPORT.
03:50:12PM AGAIN, NOT ANY REPORT HERE BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT A WRITTEN
03:50:16PM REPORT ON APRIL 30 AND EVEN MORE TIME THAT IS 100% FINE.
03:50:21PM LOCAL 754 FORMALLY REQUESTS AVAILABLE GIS AND
03:50:26PM COMPUTER-AIDED DATA FOR '20 TO 2024 TO INCLUDE OUR RELEVANT
03:50:32PM TIME STAMPS SPELLED OUT IN THE WRITTEN REQUEST FOR
03:50:35PM COMPREHENSIVE STAFFING AND WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE
03:50:38PM INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS AND EMS OPERATION
03:50:41PM DEPARTMENT.
03:50:42PM THIS IS INFORMATION THAT WAS RECEIVED FOR THEIR 2019 PUBLIC
03:50:45PM SAFETY MASTER PLAN THAT THEY WOULD NEED FOR AN UPDATED ONE.
03:50:48PM AGAIN, FOR SOME REASON IF TFR FEELS THEY CAN'T DO THAT
03:50:54PM PROVIDE IT IN A WRITTEN REPORT.
03:50:55PM IF THEY NEED MORE TIME, I WILL BE GLAD.
03:51:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:51:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:51:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AMEND THE MOTION TO STRIKE THE
03:51:09PM REFERENCE TO 754.
03:51:10PM I THINK THERE ARE TWO THINGS HERE.
03:51:11PM WE, AS COUNCIL. HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST INFORMATION.
03:51:14PM AND THE UNION HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS WELL THROUGH
03:51:18PM OTHER MEANS.
03:51:18PM SO THEY HAVE OTHER LEGAL AVENUES AND MEANS.
03:51:22PM SO I THINK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY -- IF YOU GO ET THIS
03:51:25PM INFORMATION --
03:51:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: FROM CITY COUNCIL, SURE.
03:51:27PM THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION.
03:51:28PM SO I HEARBY AMEND MY MOTION AS SUGGESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
03:51:33PM CLENDENIN TO BE A REQUEST FROM CITY COUNCIL.
03:51:34PM IT IS OBVIOUSLY ON BEHALF OF 754, BUT BY CITY COUNCIL.
03:51:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:51:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALONG THOSE LINES ALSO, I WANT TO SAY I AM
03:51:44PM SUPPORTING IT, BUT NO DISRESPECT TO CHIEF TRIPP.
03:51:50PM SHE IS WORKING HARD TO WORK WITH ALL HER CONSTITUENTS
03:51:53PM WITH THE LIMITED BUDGET AND RESOURCES SHE HAS.
03:51:56PM AND HAVING ANOTHER GROUP HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA TO GIVE
03:51:59PM THEIR OPINIONS LOOKING AT IT AS AN ADDITION REALLY
03:52:02PM RESOURCE, NOTHING DISRESPECTFUL OF CHIEF.
03:52:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
03:52:06PM ON THAT, I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
03:52:10PM CARLSON.
03:52:10PM FUNNY BECAUSE THE THING THAT CHIEF TRIPP WANTS, THE FIRE
03:52:16PM FIGHTER UNION WANTS.
03:52:16PM WITHOUT GETTING INTO CONVERSATIONS, SHE -- THE FIRST THING
03:52:20PM SHE DID WHEN GOT IN THERE WAS PUSH FOR STATION 25.
03:52:23PM NOW THERE IS STATION 24 IN FLEET MAINTENANCE.
03:52:26PM WE VOTED ON SOMETHING ON THAT TODAY WHICH IS GREAT.
03:52:29PM THOSE ARE THE TWO BIGGEST PROJECTS.
03:52:32PM AND CHIEF TRIPP AND LOCAL 754 ARE -- AGAIN, I WON'T SAY
03:52:37PM MUCH, BUT THEY ARE PUSHING FORWARD.
03:52:39PM AND SO THIS IS ON FEASIBILITY.
03:52:42PM IF IT CAN'T BE DONE, LET US KNOW.
03:52:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN, IF I CAN, IF YOU CAN GET THAT
03:52:48PM LANGUAGE AND MOTION TO THE CLERK.
03:52:49PM THAT WILL BE GREAT.
03:52:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:52:52PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:52:53PM OPPOSED.
03:52:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
03:52:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:52:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
03:52:58PM I WILL LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE REQUESTED WRITTEN
03:53:01PM STAFF REPORT FOR THE JUNE 26 ON HIGH-RISE STRUCTURES IN
03:53:05PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
03:53:06PM I HAVE DONE MY DUE DILIGENCE ON MY OWN AND NOT NECESSARY TO
03:53:10PM HAVE THAT.
03:53:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:53:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: SAY THAT AGAIN.
03:53:16PM WHAT IS THE MOTION?
03:53:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE MOTION TO PROVIDE STAFF ON HISTORICAL
03:53:23PM ZONING OF HIGH-RISE IN BAYSHORE, FIVE STORIES OR TALLER.
03:53:27PM I DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE.
03:53:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE.
03:53:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:53:33PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:53:34PM OPPOSED?
03:53:35PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:53:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS PERSONAL.
03:53:43PM ARIEL AMERA DANLEY, WATCHING FROM WASHINGTON D.C.
03:53:50PM WISH YOU A HAPPY 35th BIRTHDAY FOR THE FIRST TIME PUBLICALLY
03:53:54PM AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THIS WEEKEND.
03:53:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
03:53:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 35 IN THE ONE CLUB.
03:54:01PM 35, FEBRUARY 1, 10:51, 8 POUNDS, 6 OUNCES, 24 INCHES.
03:54:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WILL SHARE PICTURES OF HER LATER ON.
03:54:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE WILL BE IN DENVER SO --
03:54:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
03:54:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU INVEST MUCH.
03:54:20PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OF THE EQUAL BUSINESS
03:54:23PM OPPORTUNITY COUNCIL.
03:54:24PM IT HAS BEEN INACTIVE SINCE COVID-19.
03:54:29PM AS A RESULT, ALL OF THE TERMS OF THE MEMBERSHIP HAVE
03:54:31PM EXPIRED.
03:54:31PM WE HAVE 29 ACTIONS FROM ELIGIBLE CANDIDATES FROM THE SEVEN
03:54:36PM AVAILABLE POSITIONS.
03:54:37PM SO BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
03:54:40PM MOTION -- AND YOU TELL ME YES OR NO FOR MARCH 6 OR MARCH 27.
03:54:47PM MARCH 6 IS VERY BUSY .BUT WE SCHEDULE INTERVIEWS WITH THE
03:54:52PM APPLICANTS ONCE AN INTERVIEW DATE IS SET.
03:54:55PM WE WILL HAVE THE UPLOADED INDIVIDUAL ACTION FOR EACH
03:55:00PM CANDIDATE IN ON BASE FOR OUR REVIEW.
03:55:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY ARE BOTH BUSY.
03:55:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE THOSE THE ONLY TWO DATES?
03:55:12PM [INAUDIBLE]
03:55:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SINCE 2020.
03:55:15PM >> THE INTERVIEWS WILL TAKE PLACE HERE AND IN CHAMBERS.
03:55:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE ACTIONS
03:55:23PM TO REVIEW.
03:55:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION.
03:55:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I LOOK AT A LATER DATE LIKE APRIL
03:55:29PM 17.
03:55:29PM >>CLERK: I WAS ABOUT TO RECOMMEND.
03:55:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ASK?
03:55:33PM YOU KNOW. THERE ARE SPECIFIC POSITIONS THAT EACH PERSON
03:55:37PM FILLS.
03:55:37PM I WAS WONDER GOING YOU COULD JUST SEND US THE ACTIONS
03:55:41PM BECAUSE -- I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME -- I MEAN SITTING ON
03:55:45PM THE VRB, WE NEVER GOT A TREE PERSON.
03:55:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PUBLIC CAN'T HEAR.
03:55:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE TO GO UP TO THE --
03:55:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WAS THIS TODAY?
03:55:59PM >> PROBABLY A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.
03:56:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A DISCUSSION UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
03:56:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO HOW MANY INTERVIEWS DO WE REALLY NEED TO
03:56:10PM DO THEN?
03:56:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP.
03:56:14PM THEY MAY NOT ALL SHOW UP.
03:56:16PM >> EVEN IF THEY DON'T ALL SHOW UP, THEY STILL HAVE TO BE
03:56:20PM CONSIDERED.
03:56:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM GOING TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, COUNCIL.
03:56:23PM BECAUSE A RATHER COMPLEX SITUATION AND WITH APPOINTMENTS, I
03:56:27PM NEVER FACED ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
03:56:28PM MAYOR, AS YOU SAW, WAS DONE BECAUSE SUNSHINE LAW DOESN'T
03:56:32PM APPLY.
03:56:33PM ACTION HAS BEEN REVIEWED WITH WHATEVER PROCESS.
03:56:35PM THE DECISION BY THE MAYOR WAS MADE AND RESOLUTION AND PUT ON
03:56:39PM THE AGENDA.
03:56:40PM COUNCIL'S PROCESS IS VERY DIFFERENT.
03:56:42PM HAS THE SUNSHINE LAW.
03:56:43PM YOU CAN'T MAKE YOUR DECISIONS OUT OF THIS HEARING
03:56:47PM INDIVIDUALLY, BRING THEM IN, HAVE THE CLERK ADDRESS IT.
03:56:49PM COME UP WITH A SHEET TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
03:56:52PM BEEN FOUND BY A COURT TO VIOLATE THE SUNSHINE LAW.
03:56:56PM IT HAS TO BE DONE VERY DIFFERENT LOW.
03:56:58PM MORE COMPLEX BECAUSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OUT OF THE
03:57:01PM CRITERIA.
03:57:02PM SO MY SUGGESTION IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT, DON'T DO IT
03:57:05PM ON MARCH 3, PUT IT LATER THAN THAT, BECAUSE --
03:57:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 17th OF APRIL.
03:57:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: APRIL 17.
03:57:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS MY MOTION.
03:57:16PM APRIL 17.
03:57:17PM I HAVE THIS HERE.
03:57:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CLOSE THAT DATE FOR ADDITIONAL NEW
03:57:22PM BUSINESS.
03:57:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MADE THE MOTION AND THE SECOND.
03:57:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:57:35PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:57:36PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:57:37PM OPPOSED.
03:57:38PM AYES HAVE IT.
03:57:40PM THAT'S IT.
03:57:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
03:57:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO.
03:57:43PM I DO, I DO.
03:57:44PM I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA
03:57:48PM SAID THE IRONY THAT WHEN THE LABEL IS TAKEN OFF OF THE
03:57:53PM BADGES, THEY WERE ALL FIRE FIGHTERS, WHETHER THEY ARE
03:57:55PM MANAGEMENT OR SITTING IN THE TRUCKS.
03:57:58PM THEY ARE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE.
03:57:59PM SO IT IS ALWAYS IRONIC, THE ARTIFICIAL DIVIDE BETWEEN LABOR
03:58:06PM AND MANAGEMENT.
03:58:06PM I AS WE ALL HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED OF THE ISSUE OF GARAGE
03:58:11PM WIDTHS.
03:58:12PM I REACH AS MY WIT'S END.
03:58:14PM I SAT DOWN AND Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF IT.
03:58:17PM I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO REVIEW -- WROTE THE
03:58:21PM LANGUAGE SO WE DON'T HAVE A TIMING ISSUE.
03:58:23PM THEY JUST HAVE TO REVIEW IT TO MAKE SURE I DID IT MOTION FOR
03:58:28PM STAFF TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO TAMPA MUNICIPAL CODE
03:58:33PM PRIOR TO THE MEETING MARCH 6, 2025.
03:58:35PM ADD RESIDENTIAL GARAGES WITH TWO OR MORE WALLS TO MEET THE
03:58:38PM REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-283.7, THE NUMBER OF
03:58:44PM OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES.
03:58:46PM PARKING TABLE ONE, TABLE OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.
03:58:50PM SECTION 27-283.1.2.
03:58:55PM OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES AND CAR PARKING GARAGE LAYOUT.
03:59:00PM AND A NEW PARKING TABLE THREE.
03:59:02PM AND THE DIMENSION AND FEAT OF GARAGE OF PERPENDICULAR GARAGE
03:59:08PM DOOR OF PERPENDICULAR PARKING 20 FEET.
03:59:13PM GARAGE WIDTH WOULD BE 20 FEET.
03:59:16PM GARAGE LENGTH BACK TO GARAGE DOOR.
03:59:19PM AND DELETE THE REFERENCE TO TEN APARTMENTS WHICH IS -- WHICH
03:59:22PM IS -- WHICH WILL ALLOW LANGUAGE CURRENTLY SAYS SECTION
03:59:31PM 27.283 OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES.
03:59:33PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR MAY AUTHORIZE THE REDUCTION OF THE
03:59:36PM REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR THE FOLLOWING
03:59:39PM SITUATIONS.
03:59:39PM THREE TANDEM FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED OR SINGLE-FAMILY
03:59:43PM ATTACHED DESIGNS.
03:59:44PM ADD THAT TANDEM PARKING IS ALLOWED.
03:59:48PM SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ONE SPARKING SPACE IN 27-283.7.
03:59:53PM NUMBER OF OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES, TABLE OF REQUIRED
03:59:57PM SPACES.
03:59:57PM AND -- THE REASON FOR THE DELETION OF TANDEM IS PART OF
04:00:04PM ISSUE WITH THE GARAGE WIDTHS AND THE TANDEM PARKING IS IN
04:00:09PM PRACTICE WHAT HAPPENS.
04:00:10PM WHEN YOU HAVE UNDERSIZED GARAGES AND PEOPLE END UP PARKING
04:00:14PM ACROSS THE SIDEWALKS, ACROSS BIKE LANES.
04:00:17PM BLOCKING MOBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
04:00:19PM BECAUSE THAT IS THE REALITY OF THE HUMAN BEHAVIOR.
04:00:22PM AND THAT IS -- WHEN YOU HAVE THAT.
04:00:24PM THEY ARE NOT.
04:00:25PM THEY ARE NOT PARKING LIKE THAT.
04:00:27PM THEY ARE COMING OUT OF THE GARAGE AND PARKING WHEREVER THEY
04:00:30PM ARE GOING TO PARK.
04:00:30PM THAT IS JUSTIFICATION.
04:00:32PM SO I WILL I AM GOING TO MAKE -- HE AGAIN.
04:00:36PM ABBYE HAD ADVANCED COPY OF IT.
04:00:39PM AND THIS IS TURNKEY LANGUAGE HOPEFULLY AND ALL COPACETIC.
04:00:45PM AND MAKE THE FINAL MOTION FOR AMENDING THE TAMPA CODE AND
04:00:50PM IMPLEMENTATION GUIDELINES ON MARCH 6, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
04:00:54PM HAVE A GUIDELINE OF -- THERE MAY BE PLANS THAT IN PROCESS AN
04:00:57PM WE HAVE TO THAT DISCUSSION MARCH 6 OF HOW TO STAGGER THE
04:01:00PM IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS.
04:01:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO I HAVE A SECOND?
04:01:05PM >> I WILL SECOND IT.
04:01:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND AND HURTAK WAS FIRST.
04:01:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO YOU ARE ONLY TALKING OF TANDEM GARAGE
04:01:12PM PARKING?
04:01:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TANDEM PARKING TO MEET THE MINIMUM PARK --
04:01:19PM SO TANDEM PARKING.
04:01:20PM SO WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS -- THIS IS THE INTERESTING THING.
04:01:23PM BY THE WAY, A MUNICIPAL CODE.
04:01:26PM YOU WERE TOLD IT WAS TECHNICAL, IT IS NOT.
04:01:28PM MUNICIPAL CODE.
04:01:30PM REFERENCES FOR THE TECHNICAL GUIDELINES OF FEDERAL AND STATE
04:01:35PM GUIDELINES ISN'T ABOUT GARAGES BUT PARKING SPOTS.
04:01:39PM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PARKING GARAGE AND GARAGE IS
04:01:43PM A RELIANCE.
04:01:43PM WHEN YOU OPEN UP A CAR DOOR, NOT A WALL THERE.
04:01:46PM IT IS JUST IN THE PARKING LOT.
04:01:47PM THAT IS THE -- THAT IS THE INTELLECT CAL INCONSISTENCY OF
04:01:55PM EXTRAPOLATE PARKING SPACES TO A GARAGE.
04:01:58PM THIS IS ALL IN REFERENCE TO MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
04:02:02PM SO THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT IF IT WASN'T ATTEMPTS TO
04:02:07PM MEET A MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT.
04:02:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GUESS I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED.
04:02:13PM I WILL SUPPORT YOU WITH NO TANDEM GARAGE PARKING.
04:02:18PM THAT IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.
04:02:20PM BUT IF THERE ARE ACTUALLY DRIVEWAYS.
04:02:22PM MAINTAIN DEMOCRAT PARKING IS -- IS KIND OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE
04:02:26PM DONE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
04:02:27PM IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM --
04:02:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL TAKE THE IOU TO CLARIFY --
04:02:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE IT IS COMING BACK
04:02:37PM TO US.
04:02:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TANDEM PARKING WILL CAN PERMITTED IN A
04:02:41PM SITUATION.
04:02:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE
04:02:44PM HOUSING IN THE CITY IS TANDEM DRIVEWAYS.
04:02:47PM HATE TO BREAK IT TO YOU, BUT ONE OF THE GREATEST WAYS WE CAN
04:02:52PM DO THAT.
04:02:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE PROBLEM IS THE DRIVEWAY HAS TO BE LONG
04:02:56PM ENOUGH SO NOT DOUBLE PARKED ON THE SIDEWALK OR THE BRICK
04:03:01PM LANE.
04:03:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 100%.
04:03:03PM WITH THE LENGTH FOR THE GARAGE, WANT TO ADD THAT.
04:03:06PM LENGTH FOR TANDEM DRIVEWAYS.
04:03:09PM I AM JUST SAYING.
04:03:10PM I APPRECIATE YOUR ADDITION FOR THE GARAGE.
04:03:13PM BECAUSE, YEAH, I WOULD TAKE OUT "TANDEM GARAGE PARKING," I
04:03:19PM MEAN, LIKE PERIOD.
04:03:20PM NO WAY PEOPLE ARE USING THAT.
04:03:22PM PEOPLE HAVE BUILT THEM.
04:03:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIGHT IN CHANNELSIDE.
04:03:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOPEFULLY WE CAN IMPROVE THAT.
04:03:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LENGTH OF DRIVEWAY.
04:03:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
04:03:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE THAT AND I AM NOT AGAINST
04:03:38PM THAT AT ALL.
04:03:39PM MY MIND GOES BACK HOW WE TREAT EVERYTHING DIFFERENTLY.
04:03:42PM A TALL BUILDING WITH A GAR RACK ATTACHED TO IT, WE HAVE TO
04:03:45PM HAVE A .04 PARKING RATIO AN PASSED SOME WITH .02.
04:03:51PM DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REDUCTION IN A TALL
04:03:55PM BUILDING BECAUSE THEY HAVE FRIENDS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND
04:03:58PM VISIT THE ONE ON -- ON N. BOULEVARD AROUND CLEVELAND.
04:04:07PM IT WILL BE A BANK RIGHT THERE.
04:04:10PM AND THE BANK IS STILL CLOSED.
04:04:12PM AND -- NOT A THING HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST -- THE ONE FROM
04:04:18PM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA THAT CAME AND COMPLAINED.
04:04:19PM THE SAME AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
04:04:21PM HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PARKING.
04:04:23PM AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
04:04:24PM NOTHING AT ALL.
04:04:26PM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW IF WHAT WE DO FOR ONE.
04:04:30PM WE LOOK FOR THE OTHER.
04:04:32PM I AM NOT SAYING I AM AGAINST THAT.
04:04:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
04:04:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY SAVE FOR PEOPLE
04:04:38PM TO GET THE DOORS SCRATCHED AND FIXED AND EVERYTHING ELSE AT
04:04:42PM THE BODY SHOP.
04:04:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE YOU GO.
04:04:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:04:46PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:04:47PM OPPOSED?
04:04:50PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
04:04:51PM IF I CAN ASK.
04:04:53PM EVERYTHING FOR MARCH 6 IS DUE NEXT TUESDAY, THAT INCLUDES
04:04:56PM THE LARGE SCALE SIGN REPORT AND A BUNCH OTHER THINGS.
04:04:59PM AND GIVEN THE CONVERSATION THAT JUST HAPPENED ON THE DAIS
04:05:05PM CONCERNING THIS MATTER, WE DID JUST BRING YOU A SET OF TEXT
04:05:08PM AMENDMENTS THIS COULD HAVE ROLLED INTO AT THAT TIME.
04:05:11PM BUT SOUNDS LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE A WORKSHOP.
04:05:14PM AND ALSO --
04:05:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
04:05:17PM Y'ALL HAD THIS ISSUE FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I HAVE SAT ON
04:05:21PM CITY COUNCIL.
04:05:22PM AND Y'ALL HAVE SAT ON YOUR BUTTS AND NOT DONE A DAMN THING
04:05:25PM ABOUT IT.
04:05:25PM SO, NO.
04:05:26PM NO.
04:05:27PM THIS -- IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON THIS.
04:05:29PM AND -- AND ACTUALLY DID THE WORK.
04:05:32PM WROTE IT.
04:05:33PM IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT, PLEASE TALK TO MY OFFICE AND
04:05:37PM WE WILL DO WHATEVER TEXT CHANGE IS LEGAL.
04:05:39PM BUT IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON.
04:05:40PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT -- SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT TO
04:05:44PM HAPPEN.
04:05:44PM I AM EMPATHETIC WITH THE ISSUE, AND HERE IS THE LANGUAGE AND
04:05:48PM LET'S MOVE ON IT.
04:05:49PM WE HAVE A COMPLETE MISUNDERSTANDING.
04:05:51PM WHAT IT DOES IS PUTS THIS COUNCIL IN A DIFFICULT POSITION
04:05:54PM EVERY TIME THESE LAND USE ATTORNEYS COME BEFORE US WITH SOME
04:05:57PM OF THESE CRAPPY PROJECTS WITH UNDERSIZED GARAGES AND WE HAVE
04:06:00PM TO VOTE AGAINST THEM TIME AFTER TIME.
04:06:03PM THEY WASTED THEIR MONEY.
04:06:04PM THEY WASTED OUR TIME.
04:06:05PM THEY HAVE WASTED THE CITY OF TAMPA'S TIME.
04:06:09PM THIS IS AN ISSUE -- THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN GOING
04:06:13PM -- Y'ALL HAD THIS FOR LONGEST TIME AND NOBODY, STEPHEN
04:06:18PM BENSON WORKED ON IT, AND HE IS GONE.
04:06:20PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT ENDED WITH MR. BENSON UNFORTUNATELY.
04:06:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE PICKED UP THAT WORK
04:06:28PM LOAD.
04:06:29PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WOULD SAY I DON'T THINK A GARAGE BUT A
04:06:32PM DRIVEWAY.
04:06:32PM PEOPLE DON'T WORK IN THEIR GARAGE, THEY PARK ON THE
04:06:37PM DRIVEWAY.
04:06:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU KNOW WHAT, ABBYE, RUN FOR OFFICE AND
04:06:40PM YOU CAN DO THAT.
04:06:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SLEDGE LAY SIEVE --
04:06:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT WILL NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING
04:06:46PM COMMISSION AND GO THROUGH THE REGULAR CYCLES.
04:06:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MUNICIPAL CODE CHANGE.
04:06:52PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: STILL HAS TO GO TO THE PC JUST LIKE THE TEXT
04:06:59PM AMENDMENTS.
04:06:59PM WE CAN ROLL IT INTO THAT WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST BASED
04:07:03PM ON LANGUAGE YOU ARE PROPOSING THAT WAY IT GOES TO PUBLIC
04:07:06PM INFORMATION MEETING.
04:07:07PM I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE SET THAT YET.
04:07:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
04:07:11PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: START OF CHAPTER 27.
04:07:12PM JUST LIKE THE TEXT AMENDMENTS WE JUST BROUGHT YOU.
04:07:19PM SO WE CAN PUT IT IN THERE, THEN IT WILL GO TO PUBLIC
04:07:23PM INFORMATION.
04:07:23PM IT WILL GO FOR THE BRIEFING AND THE HEARING AND
04:07:27PM COME BACK TO YOU FOR ADOPTION.
04:07:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
04:07:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, MAY I MAKE A
04:07:32PM SUGGESTION?
04:07:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, SIR.
04:07:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: INQUIRE OF MISS FEELEY WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO
04:07:39PM COME BACK WITH WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IN THE MOTION, WHICH
04:07:42PM IS TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE, SEE, REVIEW IT, AND IF THEY HAVE
04:07:46PM COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES, SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU ARE
04:07:49PM REQUESTING, HAVE IT COME BACK ON A DATE.
04:07:51PM SEE HOW LONG SHE NEEDS AND FROM THERE YOU CAN DETERMINE WHAT
04:07:54PM YOUR OPTIONS ARE WITH REGARD OF HOW YOU MOVE FORWARD.
04:07:57PM IT WILL AT LEAST ADDRESS YOUR MOTION WITH THE LANGUAGE AND
04:08:01PM YOU CAN DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FROM THERE.
04:08:02PM SO IF MARCH 6 IS TOO SOON.
04:08:04PM IF COUNCIL AGREES THAT MARCH 6 IS TOO SOON, HOW MUCH TIME --
04:08:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY IS MARCH 6 BE TOO SOON IF THE LANGUAGE
04:08:15PM IS SPOON-FED.
04:08:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A WRITTEN OR ORAL REPORT.
04:08:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I ENVISIONED THAT MISS FEELEY AND ANY
04:08:23PM ATTORNEYS THAT HAD A VESTED INTEREST IN TALKING BEING THIS
04:08:26PM WOULD TALK TO THE OFFICE -- MY OFFICE, TALK TO MYSELF OREGON
04:08:30PM COUNCIL PERSONS OF THE CHANGES TO COME BACK ON MARCH 6 AND
04:08:35PM START THE PROCESS AT THAT POINT.
04:08:36PM SO WE MAKE THE MOTION ON MARCH 6 TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS OF
04:08:40PM INSTITUTING THIS POLICY.
04:08:41PM AND WHATEVER THAT PROCESS IS.
04:08:43PM IF IT IS THE LEGAL OPINION THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH THE
04:08:47PM PLANNING COMMISSION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, THEN SO
04:08:49PM BE IT, BUT THAT WILL BE PROCESSES THAT WILL START ON MARCH 6
04:08:52PM WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WOULD AGREE TO ON MARCH 6.
04:08:56PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK I AM GIVING YOU A BETTER SOLUTION,
04:09:00PM WHICH IS LET'S ROLL IT INTO THE TEXT AMENDMENTS THAT YOU
04:09:03PM JUST LOOKED AT THAT WERE DONE CONCEPTUALLY THAT WE ALREADY
04:09:07PM JUST PRESENTED, I THINK, A WEEK BEFORE LAST, GET IT INTO THE
04:09:11PM CYCLE AND COME INTO THAT PACKAGE FOR YOU.
04:09:13PM WE DIDN'T EVEN BRING YOU THE LANGUAGE ON THAT.
04:09:16PM I THINK YOU REMEMBER WE BROUGHT YOU THE CONCEPT.
04:09:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY WASN'T THIS SUGGESTED WHEN WE SENT
04:09:21PM THIS TO YOU?
04:09:24PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT WASN'T --
04:09:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN TIM SENT THIS TO YOU.
04:09:28PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, THIS AFTERNOON.
04:09:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEFORE COUNCIL SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT
04:09:33PM INFORMATION.
04:09:33PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: BECAUSE IT WASN'T EXPLAINED TO ME THAT IT
04:09:36PM SAID YOU MIGHT BE ASKING FOR IT TO COME BACK MARCH 6.
04:09:38PM THAT DATE WASN'T SURE YET.
04:09:40PM AND I DID NOT THINK THROUGH WHAT THE BEST PROCESS FOR
04:09:44PM INCORPORATING THIS INTO THE CURRENT CYCLE WILL BE.
04:09:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CLENDENIN.
04:09:48PM MAY YOU -- JUST TO REFRESH EVERYBODY'S RECOLLECTION WHAT THE
04:09:54PM TIMELINE IS FOR THAT PROCESS.
04:09:55PM ARE YOU SAYING, FEELEY, IT IS STILL AVAILABLE TO BE ADDED TO
04:10:00PM THE CYCLE.
04:10:00PM YOU WILL BE ABLE TO COMPLY TO COUNCIL'S REQUEST BY ADDING IT
04:10:04PM TO THIS CYCLE.
04:10:05PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS CYCLE, YES, JUST BROUGHT -- POSTPONED
04:10:08PM FROM THE HURRICANES FROM SEPTEMBER THAT WAS JUST BROUGHT
04:10:12PM WEEK BEFORE LAST.
04:10:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE YOU COMFORTABLE -- I GUESS THE ISSUE
04:10:16PM IS, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THIS LANGUAGE AND MOVING
04:10:19PM FORWARD?
04:10:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
04:10:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE WHOLE.
04:10:22PM THEY TAKE IT TO THE COMMUNITY.
04:10:24PM THEY GET FEEDBACK.
04:10:26PM THEN THEY BRING IT BACK US TO FOR -- FOR THE INITIAL
04:10:30PM FEEDBACK AND GO BACK AND FIX THE LANGUAGE.
04:10:32PM THIS WAS ONLY -- THIS IS ONLY THE IDEA OF IT.
04:10:34PM AND THEY WILL TAKE THE IDEA.
04:10:36PM AND -- AND WORKSHOP IT.
04:10:39PM AND BRING IT BACK TO US TWICE MORE BEFORE FINAL READING.
04:10:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW LONG IS THAT PROCESS?
04:10:48PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DON'T HAVE THE SCHEDULED THAT WAS
04:10:51PM PUT UP LAST WEEK, BUT I KNOW IT IS FORTHCOMING.
04:10:54PM I CAN GET THAT TO YOU AND GET IT BACK TO YOU.
04:10:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN FIGURE OUT MY BLOOD PRESSURE ON
04:11:01PM THIS ISSUE.
04:11:02PM THIS ONE OF THE THINGS -- THIS PART OF FRUSTRATION OF THE
04:11:06PM DAIS AND DEALING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON SO MANY
04:11:09PM DIFFERENT ISSUES.
04:11:09PM THINGS GET SLOW ROLLED THAT WE FEEL LIKE -- I KNOW WE GET
04:11:13PM THIS FEELING THAT EVERYTHING GETS SLOW ROLLED.
04:11:17PM AND I -- I LOVE TAMPA CITY STAFF.
04:11:20PM LOVE EVERYBODY THAT WORKS HERE.
04:11:21PM BUT IT IS JUST -- WHEN WE GET PLEASURE AND -- WE HAVE A LOT
04:11:25PM OF PRESSURE TOO.
04:11:26PM WE GET THIS STUFF.
04:11:27PM OH, COME ON.
04:11:27PM LET'S JUST GET IT DONE.
04:11:29PM I MEAN, LET'S JUST GET IT DONE.
04:11:31PM THAT IS SO MANY THINGS.
04:11:33PM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN LIKE WE WERE TALKING OF THAT
04:11:38PM TRAFFIC ISSUE ON FRANKLIN AND PLATT.
04:11:41PM THE MORGAN STREET EXIT ALL OF THE EXPRESSWAY.
04:11:44PM HOW MANY TIMES WE BROUGHT THIS UP TO COUNCIL AND NOTHING
04:11:47PM EVER COMES OF IT.
04:11:48PM AND THAT ENDS UP -- YOU GET A GUY LIKE ME THAT TRIES TO BE
04:11:52PM LIKE THE MITIGATOR AND THE -- THE GO-BETWEEN AND THE GUY
04:11:56PM THAT GIVES -- LIKE, OKAY, I AM DONE.
04:11:58PM I AM SO FRUSTRATED AND SO -- I AM SO DONE.
04:12:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PUT IT FORWARD.
04:12:02PM ADD IT TO THE CYCLE.
04:12:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S ADD IT TO THE CYCLE.
04:12:06PM HI MAKE A MOTION TO ADD IT TO THE CYCLE AND CAN MISS FEELEY
04:12:11PM TO MOVE IT THROUGH, AROUND LET'S GET IT DONE.
04:12:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
04:12:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY MORE DISCUSSION, COUNCIL MEMBER
04:12:18PM CARLSON.
04:12:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY REAL FAST.
04:12:21PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, I OBVIOUSLY SHARED YOUR
04:12:23PM FRUSTRATION TODAY AND MANY OTHER TIMES.
04:12:24PM AND IT IS FRUSTRATING FOR THE CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THE
04:12:30PM ADMINISTRATION WILL SLOW ROLL OR KILL THROUGH ADMIN AND GETS
04:12:34PM DELAYED, DELAYED, DELAYED.
04:12:36PM LIKE THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
04:12:38PM THEY KEPT DELAYING AND THEY SAID THEY PRESENTED IT THE LAST
04:12:43PM MINUTE.
04:12:43PM ALWAYS LIKE THAT.
04:12:44PM ABBYE CAN YOU COME BACK -- WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS MISS
04:12:50PM FEELEY, I FOUND THAT -- YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T -- I DIDN'T VOTE
04:12:54PM FOR MISS FEELEY WHEN SHE GOT THIS NEW POSITION, BUT I TOLD
04:12:57PM HER, I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH HER WILLINGNESS TO HELP, SINCE
04:13:02PM SHE -- THIS IS WHAT I WAS LEADING UP TO JUST NOW.
04:13:05PM I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH HER WILLINGNESS TO HELP SINCE SHE
04:13:08PM GOT ON BOARD IN THIS NEW POSITION.
04:13:10PM AND I FIND HER -- I THINK WE HAVE TO SEPARATE -- AT LEAST
04:13:14PM WITH THIS POSITION, WHATEVER HAPPENED IN THE PAST GOOD OR
04:13:18PM BAD, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FEELEY DIFFERENTLY IN WHATEVER WAY
04:13:22PM IN HER NEW POSITION.
04:13:22PM I AM VERY IMPRESSED AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK SHE HAS
04:13:26PM DONE IN THIS NEW POSITION.
04:13:28PM I HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD IN GOOD FAITH, SHE WILL
04:13:32PM WORK YOU WITH TO MOVE IN FORWARD.
04:13:33PM BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN SO FAR.
04:13:35PM VOTED AGAINST HER.
04:13:37PM AND HELPING ME WITH PROJECTS THAT SHE HAS NO REASON TO HELP
04:13:44PM ME BUT BEING A GOOD PUBLIC SERVANT.
04:13:46PM I APPRECIATE IT.
04:13:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:13:49PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:13:51PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:13:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE PLUG IN.
04:13:54PM FEBRUARY 11, WE GOT AN E-MAIL THAT HAS THE MONTHLY REPORTS.
04:14:00PM IN THIS CASE, IT IS KIND OF A QUARTERLY REPORT FROM OCTOBER
04:14:04PM 1 TO DECEMBER 31.
04:14:06PM THEY ARE USUALLY LIKE A MONTH BEHIND.
04:14:08PM BUT I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU GO THROUGH THIS BEFORE NEXT
04:14:11PM WEEK'S MEETING JUST TO TAKE A LOOK.
04:14:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT DATE?
04:14:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MEMO IS DATED FEBRUARY 11.
04:14:19PM SOME TIME NEAR THAT.
04:14:20PM AND I WOULD JUST HIGHLY RECOMMEND GOING OVER IT.
04:14:23PM TAKING A LOOK AT HOW WE ARE DOING, WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH --
04:14:27PM BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF BIG THINGS COMING UP.
04:14:30PM AND WE HAVE A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY.
04:14:33PM SO THAT -- THAT IS JUST MY PLUG AGAIN.
04:14:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:14:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:14:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
04:14:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, I
04:14:47PM APOLOGIZE.
04:14:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS WAS THE SHORT PART.
04:14:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOPEFULLY WILL BE FAST.
04:14:52PM HARBOUR ISLAND HAD THEIR EXPERT HERE THIS MORNING AND THEY
04:14:56PM SPOKE, AND THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ASK THE STAFF TO
04:14:59PM CONDUCT NOR STUDY -- OR A MORE THOROUGH STUDY OF THE
04:15:03PM SIGNALING NEEDS.
04:15:04PM AND I WILL MAKE THIS MOTION.
04:15:05PM AND MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO RETURN ON NAY 1 WITH OPTIONS
04:15:11PM OF HIRING A CONSULTANT FOR THE SIGNALING NEEDS OF FRANKLIN
04:15:16PM STREET FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER OF HARBOUR ISLAND.
04:15:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND IT, IF I CAN ADD AN AMOUNT.
04:15:22PM TO -- TO CONSIDER THAT -- FOR STAFF -- FOR WHATEVER
04:15:29PM CONSULTANT TO CONSIDER WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE TO CLOSE SOME
04:15:31PM CONVENTION CENTER TRAFFIC, LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN
04:15:35PM AND DROP PEOPLE -- JUST TO KIND OF CLOSE THAT AREA OFF FOR
04:15:39PM THE PUBLIC.
04:15:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE KNOW IF THIS STUDY HAS BEEN DONE?
04:15:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY DID A LOT A WHILE AGO.
04:15:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: ENGINEER FROM HARBOUR ISLAND LOOKED AT IT
04:15:51PM AND SAID ITS NO AT COMPLETE STUDY.
04:15:53PM NEW EXCUSE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, IT IS SEALED AND SIGNED.
04:15:57PM THE SAME THING THEY DID WITH THIS TRAFFIC PLAN WITH ALL THE
04:16:01PM CONGESTION DOWNTOWN.
04:16:02PM SEALED AND SIGNED BY THE ENGINEERS THEY CAN'T TOUCH IT AND
04:16:06PM SENT ANDREA THE OTHER DAY TO SAY WE WOULD BE PERSONALLY
04:16:12PM LIABLE.
04:16:12PM WE KNOW FROM MANY CONSULTANTS THAT WE DON'T NEED THIS LIGHT.
04:16:16PM ANYWAY, DID YOU SECOND OR NOT.
04:16:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:16:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL THIRD IT.
04:16:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT -- WHEN YOU ARE
04:16:24PM LOOKING AT IT THE, TO LOOK AT FLOW IN AND OUT OF THE
04:16:26PM CONVENTION CENTER.
04:16:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND LOOK AT CONVENTION CENTER FLOW.
04:16:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, WHICH THE IDEA IS NO PUBLIC ACCESSES TO
04:16:38PM THAT, AND IT BEING ONLY FOLKS BE WHO HAVE TO GO IN THERE.
04:16:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: LOOK AT CONVENTION CENTER TRAFFIC FLOW TO
04:16:47PM LOOK AT OPTIONS.
04:16:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR DIVERTING THAT PROCESS.
04:16:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AN OUTDOOR AGENCY THAT TO DO THIS.
04:16:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OUTSIDE INCIDENT.
04:16:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY ALREADY HIRED AN OUTSIDE ENTITY.
04:17:03PM BUT THEY DID A SUPERFICIAL LOOK OF IT.
04:17:06PM THIS WILL BE TO DO A THOROUGH AND UPDATED RED VIEW BECAUSE
04:17:09PM THE LAST ONE WAS DONE THREE YEARS AGO.
04:17:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR MAY 1.
04:17:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: COME BACK AND TALK TO US OF HIRING A CONSUL
04:17:19PM TANT.
04:17:19PM THEY ARE NOT ASKING THEM TO DO IT.
04:17:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY NOT COME BACK SOONER.
04:17:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE YOU WILL TELL ME THAT THE AGENDA IS
04:17:28PM FULL.
04:17:28PM A DATE TO COME BACK SOONER, I WOULD.
04:17:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF ALL WE ARE DOING IS TALKING ABOUT IT.
04:17:33PM WE NEED IT GOING.
04:17:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 17.
04:17:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT DATE WE JUST CLOSED.
04:17:41PM HOW ABOUT APRIL 6?
04:17:43PM I AM SORRY, THE 3rd.
04:17:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MEETING ON MY BIRTHDAY.
04:17:47PM >>CLERK: WE SCHEDULED, LIKE, THREE TODAY.
04:17:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOBODY SCHEDULED MAY 1.
04:17:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAY 1.
04:17:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:17:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS ISSUE IS NOW COMING INSIDE BLACK
04:18:00PM ENGLISH BOOK STORE, AND THAT IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME.
04:18:03PM CUSTOMERS WANT TO TALK OF -- OUR CUSTOMERS WANT TO TALK
04:18:07PM ABOUT IT.
04:18:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU GO.
04:18:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS LONG AS IT IS GETTING BUSINESS.
04:18:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM A BOOK SELLER.
04:18:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: SELL TRAFFIC.
04:18:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
04:18:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CARLSON, A QUESTION FOR YOU IN TERMS OF
04:18:22PM THE TIMELINE THAT TRANSPORTATION HAS FOR THIS TRAFFIC LIGHT.
04:18:26PM I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE TOO LATE IF THERE IS GOING TO BE
04:18:29PM ANY ACTION ON THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
04:18:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DATE DID WE PUT IT ON.
04:18:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAY 1.
04:18:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES IT INCLUDE A REQUEST --
04:18:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY NOT DO A WRITTEN REPORT.
04:18:43PM THAT WAY WE COULD DO IT -- WE CAN GET IT BY APRIL 6, IF DID
04:18:48PM A WRITTEN REPORT.
04:18:49PM WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT DURING -- DURING OLD BUSINESS.
04:18:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY CREATE A WRITTEN REPORT AND RETURN
04:18:57PM --
04:18:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A WRITTEN REPORT ON -- YOU SAID APRIL --
04:19:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAY 4.
04:19:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN DO IT APRIL 3.
04:19:10PM SAVINGS A MONTH.
04:19:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: APRIL 3 TO CREATE A WRITTEN REPORT.
04:19:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU REF MOVED CHARLIE'S PREVIOUS MOTION.
04:19:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST AMEND.
04:19:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A MOTION TO AMEND.
04:19:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
04:19:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 3.
04:19:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:19:31PM OPPOSED?
04:19:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: LAST THING.
04:19:33PM I AM GOING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD ON THIS.
04:19:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON THIS?
04:19:38PM [LAUGHTER]
04:19:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON THE NEXT ONE.
04:19:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW ABOUT AN ALBUM --
04:19:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS IT CALLED WHEN FIVE OR SIX --
04:19:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TWO LPs.
04:19:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: GIVE ME 30 SECONDS.
04:19:53PM SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF.
04:19:55PM SINCE THE VOTE AND IT WAS 5-2.
04:19:57PM I HAVE GONE ON THE DISSENTING SIDE, AND I CAN'T REOPEN IT.
04:20:00PM ONE OF YOU ON THE FIVE CAN.
04:20:02PM SINCE THEN, I PULLED THE TRANSCRIPT.
04:20:04PM THE TRANSCRIPT SAY THAT THEA IS CONTRIBUTING $11 MILLION
04:20:10PM IN PUBLIC RECORDS, PARKLAND STATES ASSOCIATION HAS
04:20:13PM CONFIRMED THAT THE THEA BOARD HAS NOT EVEN BROUGHT THIS UP
04:20:16PM YET.
04:20:17PM IT IS NOT CONFIRMED AND WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS -- THAT
04:20:20PM THEY WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING.
04:20:21PM WE FOUND OUT THE LAST FEW DAYS THROUGH MEETINGS WITH STAFF
04:20:26PM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT -- THAT WE WERE -- THAT COUNCIL
04:20:29PM MEMBER CLENDENIN WAS PROMISE BY STAFF THIS WILL BE OPEN TO
04:20:34PM -- COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN ASKED A QUESTION.
04:20:36PM IS THIS IS OPEN TO ALL POSSIBLE ROUTES.
04:20:38PM THE ANSWER WAS YES.
04:20:40PM AND NOW IN WRITE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING TOLD THAT THERE
04:20:44PM ARE ONLY THREE ROUTES.
04:20:45PM BUSINESSES DID THEIR OWN STUDY THAT THEY PAID FOR AND FOUND
04:20:48PM FIVE POSSIBLE ROUTES TO THE STAFF.
04:20:51PM THE FIRST ROUTE, THE STAFF REJECTED BECAUSE IT HAD ALREADY
04:20:55PM BEEN DONE AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO A MORE THOROUGH 'MALL
04:20:59PM IN SIS.
04:20:59PM FOUR OTHERS BECAUSE THEY WERE NEW AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO
04:21:03PM THE ANALYSIS.
04:21:03PM THEY ARE BOUND AND DETERMINED TO BUILD SOMETHING DOWN HOWARD
04:21:07PM AVENUE THAT WE KNOW WILL NOT WORK.
04:21:08PM YOU ALL VOTED UNDER THE PREMISE OF THESE AND MANY OTHER
04:21:14PM THINGS WERE NOT TRUE.
04:21:14PM ALSO IN THE TESTIMONY, WHEN -- WHEN I ASKED, WILL THE
04:21:18PM NEIGHBORHOOD BE PROTECTED OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WHILE
04:21:20PM THIS IS BEING BUILT.
04:21:22PM THE ANSWER WAS NO.
04:21:23PM THEN WILL IT BE PROTECTED IN A MAJOR STORM, LIKE MILTON
04:21:28PM AFTER FOUR YEARS, AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.
04:21:30PM IF IT IS NOT GOING TO THEM IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, PEOPLE
04:21:34PM RENOVATING THEIR HOMES, IT WILL NOT HELP AFTER FOUR YEARS IN
04:21:36PM A HURRICANE.
04:21:37PM WHY WOULD WE HAVE APPROVE THIS?
04:21:39PM WHY WOULD WE NOT IT?
04:21:43PM PUBLIC RECORD PULLED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONFIRMS THAT THE
04:21:49PM ADMINISTRATION STIRRED UP TROUBLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:21:51PM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAD CONFLICT BECAUSE THEY STIRRED UP
04:21:55PM TROUBLE.
04:21:55PM AMONG OTHER THINGS COACHING THE LEADER OF THIS GROUP OF HOW
04:21:59PM TO TALK TO THE MEDIA TO ARGUE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
04:22:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS.
04:22:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN PUBLIC RECORD.
04:22:06PM TALKED TO THE PARKLAND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
04:22:08PM PLUS INTEREST WHICH IS $130 MILLION.
04:22:12PM WE CAN USE A PORTION OF THAT MONEY TO DO ALL THE SHORT-TERM
04:22:16PM MAINTENANCE IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND PARKLAND HE IS STATES
04:22:19PM AND PREVENT FLOODING ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AND USE THE REST OF
04:22:22PM IT TO PREVENT FLOODING IN OTHER PARTS OF TAMPA.
04:22:25PM I HOPE ONE OF YOU WILL REOPEN THAT TO RECONSIDER IT AND
04:22:29PM CANCEL THAT.
04:22:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK AND CLENDENIN.
04:22:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM JUST -- I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY
04:22:35PM FOR US TO GET THIS INFORMATION SO WE CAN READ IT FOR
04:22:38PM OURSELVES AND THEN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT UNDER OLD
04:22:42PM BUSINESS AT ANOTHER TIME.
04:22:43PM BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT.
04:22:46PM IF THERE IS A WAY THAT -- I DON'T KNOW, MR. SHELBY.
04:22:50PM WHAT WOULD BE LEGAL WAY FOR -- FOR THEM TO DO IT.
04:22:53PM WOULD IT BE THE PUBLIC PUTTING TOGETHER THE -- SO MAYBE
04:22:58PM PARKLAND ESTATES PEOPLE OR THE HOWARD AVENUE BUSINESS
04:23:01PM PEOPLE, PUTTING TOGETHER A MEMO THAT THEY CAN SEND TO ALL
04:23:05PM SEVEN OF US TO READ ABOUT IT.
04:23:07PM THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.
04:23:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH THE -- WITH THE PUBLIC RECORDS --
04:23:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WITH ALL THE INFORMATION.
04:23:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE DOCUMENTATIONS THAT SUPPORT THE
04:23:19PM ASSERTIONS THAT ARE MADE.
04:23:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO READ THAT IN A COHESIVE
04:23:24PM DOCUMENT.
04:23:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO WOULD I.
04:23:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY AND THEN TALK ABOUT
04:23:28PM IT DURING OLD BUSINESS.
04:23:30PM THAT IS WHERE I WOULD BRING PERSONALLY, RIGHT?
04:23:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY PAY THEIR OWN CONSULTANTS.
04:23:36PM THESE COMMUNITIES -- ANYWAY, NEVER MIND.
04:23:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CARLSON, WAS THERE IS A CHARGE.
04:23:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY CHARGED -- THE CITY CHARGED
04:23:48PM THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
04:23:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE -- MY SUGGESTION
04:23:56PM WOULD BE THEN TO -- TO MAKE THAT REQUEST OF -- MR. CARLSON.
04:24:02PM THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT.
04:24:04PM THAT'S CORRECT?
04:24:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WANTS TO MAKE THE
04:24:10PM REQUEST AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
04:24:11PM THAT IS FINE WITH ME.
04:24:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT GOING TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
04:24:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR THE INFORMATION.
04:24:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COLLATE AND SHARE
04:24:21PM THAT INFORMATION TO ALL SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, SOMETHING I
04:24:23PM WOULD LOVE TO BRING BACK DURING OLD BUSINESS FOR DISCUSS IF
04:24:28PM WE WANT TO REOPEN.
04:24:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION, I ASK FOR THE
04:24:34PM PARKLAND ESTATE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND BUSINESS ON HOWARD
04:24:40PM AVENUE TO SUBMIT A WRITTEN REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL WITH
04:24:44PM BACK-UP.
04:24:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MAKE MOTIONS FOR COMMUNITIES.
04:24:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN REQUEST WITH BACK-UP DOCUMENTS TO
04:24:50PM SHOW HOW -- WHY WE SHOULD REVISIT THIS AND CANCEL THE
04:24:57PM CONTRACT.
04:24:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I -- YOU AGREE WITH THE REQUEST.
04:25:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER
04:25:04PM CLENDENIN.
04:25:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GOING TO READ THE ENCYCLOPEDIA NOW.
04:25:12PM I DO WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID.
04:25:15PM BECAUSE I CONCUR.
04:25:16PM DURING THAT ENTIRE DISCUSSION, I WAS VERY SPECIFIC IN
04:25:20PM VERIFYING AND THE CONSULTANT GROUP WAS GOING TO EXPLORE
04:25:24PM MULTIPLE ACTION OPTIONS.
04:25:27PM 100% ON THE RECORD TO EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS.
04:25:32PM IF YOU ARE LISTENING, THE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING THIS.
04:25:34PM YOU HOPE YOU HAVE NOT ARBITRARILY RULED OUT.
04:25:38PM WHY YOU WOULD DO THAT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
04:25:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: THREE OPTIONS DOWN HOWARD AVENUE.
04:25:43PM BRISTOL, MORRISON AND SWANN.
04:25:45PM THOSE ARE THE ONLY THREE OPTIONS.
04:25:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HOPE THEY HAVE AN ANSWER TO EXPLORE THE
04:25:53PM OTHER OPTIONS AND WHY THEY RULED IT OUT.
04:25:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT IS
04:25:59PM WATCHING INCLUDE AN E-MAIL TO STAFF.
04:26:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ALL PERTINENT
04:26:04PM PUBLIC RECORDS THAT WERE OBTAINED IN SUPPORT OF WHATEVER
04:26:09PM ASSERTIONS THEY MAKE.
04:26:10PM SO -- AND TO BE INCLUDED.
04:26:14PM WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, COUNCILWOMAN, SOUNDS LIKE --
04:26:19PM SOUNDS LIKE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY -- I THINK THE BEST
04:26:22PM EVIDENCE.
04:26:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT, THE BEST EVIDENCE.
04:26:24PM I CAN SAY IF ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE CAN PUT TOGETHER A NICE
04:26:29PM BINDER, IT WOULD BE THEM.
04:26:30PM SO I AM --
04:26:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU LIKE YOUR BINDERS.
04:26:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OR E-MAIL.
04:26:38PM I WOULD LIKE THE INFORMATION TO FLESH IT OUT AND TALK ABOUT
04:26:42PM IT.
04:26:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID WELL-EDUCATED PEOPLE IN PARKLAND
04:26:46PM ESTATES AND THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THIS.
04:26:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SAW BEAUTIFUL POWERPOINTS.
04:26:50PM NO DOUBT.
04:26:51PM WE KEEP HEARING THIS, LET'S SEE THE DATA AND SEE THE REPORTS
04:26:55PM AND THE PUBLIC RECORD.
04:26:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:26:59PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:27:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM HAPPY TO GET THE INFORMATION IF THEY WANT
04:27:03PM TO SEND IT TO ME.
04:27:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:27:06PM OPPOSED.
04:27:08PM MOTION TO EXTEND FOR 30 MINUTES.
04:27:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A FULL DAY.
04:27:11PM WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON YOUR RADAR THAT ESPECIALLY NOW THAT
04:27:15PM YOU ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING AND MOVING INTO BUDGET
04:27:18PM SEASON.
04:27:18PM SECTION -- SECTION 10.10 OF THE CITY CHARTER IS ENTITLED
04:27:30PM "CHARTER REVIEW."
04:27:31PM COMMENCING IN 2025 AND EVERY EIGHT YEARS THEREAFTER
04:27:35PM ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE A CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY COMMITTEE
04:27:38PM AND GOES ON FROM THERE
04:27:40PM SO WE ARE ABOUT AT THAT TIME AGAIN.
04:27:43PM AND WHAT TIME GOING TO SUGGEST IS -- I DON'T BELIEVE ANY
04:27:46PM MONEY HAS BEEN PLACED IN OUT IN FY '25 BUDGET ABOUT THIS.
04:27:50PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PER YOUR CHARTER YOU ARE GOING TO
04:27:52PM HAVE TO CONSIDER FOR FY '26.
04:27:55PM AND YOU CAN GET UNDER WAY IN CALENDAR YEAR STARTING THE
04:27:58PM PROCESS IN 2025.
04:27:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:28:00PM SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK.
04:28:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:28:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
04:28:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
04:28:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
04:28:09PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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