TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOPS
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:04:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO
9:04:16AM ORDER.
9:04:17AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR TODAY'S
9:04:20AM INVOCATION.
9:04:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:04:22AM THE REVEREND JERRY NORDSIEK HAS SERVED AS THE PASTOR OF GOOD
9:04:28AM SHEPHERD LUTHERAN CHURCH LOCATED IN SOUTH TAMPA ON DALE
9:04:28AM MABRY HIGHWAY SINCE 2021.
9:04:31AM A NATIVE FLORIDIAN FROM JACKSONVILLE, PASTOR NORDSIEK EARNED
9:04:36AM A BACHELOR DEGREE FROM LENOIR-RHYNE UNIVERSITY IN HICKORY,
9:04:40AM NORTH CAROLINA IN 1994 AND A MASTER OF DIVINITY DEGREE FROM
9:04:43AM THE LUTHERAN THEOLOGICAL SOUTHERN SEMINARY IN COLUMBIA,
9:04:48AM SOUTH CAROLINA, IN 1988.
9:04:50AM HE HAS SERVED TWO CONGREGATIONS IN NORTH CAROLINA AND FOUR
9:04:53AM CONGREGATIONS IN FLORIDA SINCE HIS ORDINATION IN 1988.
9:04:56AM PASTOR NORDSIEK AND HIS WIFE WENDY ARE BLESSED WITH FOUR
9:04:58AM ADULT CHILDREN, AND ON JANUARY 19, THEY BECAME FIRST-TIME
9:05:02AM GRANDPARENTS TO THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GRANDDAUGHTER IN THE
9:05:04AM WORLD, KATHERINE.
9:05:05AM PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF
9:05:09AM ALLEGIANCE.
9:05:12AM >> LET US PRAY.
9:05:14AM LOVING AND GRACIOUS GOD, YOU ARE A GIVER OF ALL GOOD GIFTS
9:05:19AM AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL WHO HAVE GATHERED HERE THIS MORNING
9:05:21AM FOR THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND FOR THE GIFTS AND THE
9:05:24AM TALENTS THAT ALL BRING.
9:05:27AM AS OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVE OUR WONDERFUL CITY, WE ASK
9:05:30AM THAT YOU BLESS THEM ABUNDANTLY.
9:05:33AM HELP THEM SEEK YOUR WISDOM, GUIDANCE, STRENGTH AND COURAGE
9:05:37AM IN ALL THEY DO.
9:05:38AM GIVE THEM INSIGHT TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY THAT THEIR
9:05:40AM DECISIONS ARE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT
9:05:43AM PLACED TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN THEIR LEADERSHIP.
9:05:45AM AS THEY ENGAGE IN IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS, HELP THEM APPROACH
9:05:48AM ISSUES WITH OPEN AND INQUIRING MINDS.
9:05:51AM LISTENING EARS AND CARING HEARTS.
9:05:54AM INSPIRE THEM TO WELCOME DIFFERING OPINIONS AS A GIFT OF
9:05:57AM DIVERSITY AND AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE CREATIVE AS THEY WORK
9:06:00AM TOGETHER.
9:06:01AM GIVE THEM HUMILITY TO SEEK YOUR WILL AND A JOYFUL SPIRIT TO
9:06:06AM ENJOY THE WORK THEY HAVE BEEN CALLED TO DO.
9:06:08AM ALL GLORY AND HONOR BE TO YOU THIS DAY LOVING GOD, AMEN.
9:06:14AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:06:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:06:31AM >> CARLSON?
9:06:31AM HURTAK?
9:06:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:06:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:06:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:06:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:06:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:06:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:06:38AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:06:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:06:41AM THERE IS A MEMO THAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
9:06:49AM ASKING TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 1 UNTIL THE MAY 22nd
9:06:52AM WORKSHOP.
9:06:53AM HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 1, YOU WILL
9:06:56AM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:06:58AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO MAY 22nd WORKSHOP?
9:07:01AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:07:04AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:07:05AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:07:05AM AYE.
9:07:06AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:07:07AM THEN A REQUEST FROM MR. ROGERO TO FLIP THE ORDER OF 3 AND 4.
9:07:12AM SO WE WOULD TAKE 4 FIRST -- WE'RE TAKING THE ITEMS UP.
9:07:18AM WE'RE JUST FLIPPING THE ORDER.
9:07:19AM IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS OR ANYTHING, WE DON'T HAVE TO
9:07:23AM APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
9:07:25AM DO WE OR NO?
9:07:26AM NO.
9:07:27AM OKAY.
9:07:28AM WE'LL KICK IT OFF.
9:07:30AM ITEM NUMBER 1 -- YES.
9:07:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD MAKE A COMMENT FOR THE PUBLIC.
9:07:35AM JUST A REMINDER, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UNDER CITY COUNCIL
9:07:38AM RULES OF PROCEDURE, THERE IS NO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT
9:07:42AM THE START OF THE WORKSHOP.
9:07:44AM YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL YOUR
9:07:48AM COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
9:07:50AM EACH PRESENTATION OF THE AGENDA ITEM AT THE END OF THEIR
9:07:54AM PRESENTATION, THE CHAIR WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
9:07:58AM IF YOU WISH TO REGISTER TO SPEAK, THERE IS A KIOSK OUTSIDE,
9:08:03AM AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REGISTER FOR THE ITEMS THAT
9:08:07AM YOU WISH TO SPEAK.
9:08:09AM THERE'S ACTUALLY A QR CODE IN CHAMBERS AND OUTSIDE THAT
9:08:13AM ALLOWS YOU TO EVEN DO THAT ON YOUR PHONE.
9:08:18AM LISA EDWARDS, THE CHAIR'S LEGISLATIVE AIDE, HAS BEEN WORKING
9:08:22AM VERY DILIGENTLY AND WE WANT TO THANK TECHNOLOGY AND
9:08:25AM INNOVATION DEPARTMENT FOR ACTUALLY INITIATING THIS AND
9:08:29AM IMPLEMENTING THIS.
9:08:30AM SO PLEASE DO MAKE USE OF THE QR CODE OR DO MAKE USE OF THE
9:08:34AM KIOSK IF YOU DO WISH TO SPEAK.
9:08:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:40AM ITEM NUMBER 1, AS WAS MENTIONED, WAS CONTINUED TO MAY 22,
9:08:45AM 2025.
9:08:45AM BUT IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC
9:08:50AM COMMENT.
9:08:50AM THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER FOR ITEM 1 IS STEPHANIE
9:08:54AM POYNOR FOLLOWED BY CONNIE BURTON AND AILEEN HENDERSON.
9:08:57AM THOSE ARE THE THREE PEOPLE I HAVE SIGNED UP.
9:09:00AM STEPHANIE IS PASSING.
9:09:01AM CONNIE BURTON IS THE NEXT SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY AILEEN
9:09:05AM HENDERSON.
9:09:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:09:17AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:09:19AM ITEM NUMBER 1, 20 YEARS OF LIVING IN ROBLES PARK IN THE
9:09:24AM MIDDLE OF WHAT WAS THEN DISCOVERED TO BE A GRAVE SITE, I
9:09:30AM WOULD HOPE THAT THE CITY WOULD MOVE FORWARD BEYOND JUST THE
9:09:36AM PROPERTY OWNERS, MOVE BEYOND JUST PUTTING UP MARKERS.
9:09:41AM A LOT OF HARM AND PAIN ENDED IN THE RESULT OF SO MANY MASS
9:09:47AM GRAVES OF BLACK PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THIS CITY NOT BEING
9:09:50AM RECOGNIZED.
9:09:52AM BUT ALONG WITH THAT, I COME TO ALSO HOLD UP THE FACT THAT
9:09:57AM TODAY MARK THE 59th YEAR THAT JIMMY LEE JACKSON WAS
9:10:00AM MURDERED.
9:10:01AM JIMMY LEE JACKSON WAS A YOUNG MAN THAT WAS PARTICIPATING IN
9:10:05AM A PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION OF JUST TRYING TO GAIN VOTING
9:10:09AM RIGHTS FOR BLACK FOLKS, SOMETHING THAT IS STILL NOT
9:10:11AM GUARANTEED TO ALL OF US HERE IN AMERICA.
9:10:14AM FROM 1965 TO 2010 FOR THE PERSON THAT KILLED JIMMY LEE
9:10:23AM JACKSON TO ONLY BE GIVEN A SIX-MONTH SENTENCE IN JAIL.
9:10:26AM DR. KING ASKED AT HIS EULOGY WHO KILLED JIMMY LEE JACKSON.
9:10:33AM DR. KING SAID WE KNOW WHO PULLED THE TRIGGER, IT WAS A STATE
9:10:37AM TROOPER BUT BY ORDER OF THE GOVERNOR WALLACE.
9:10:41AM AND ALL OF THOSE THAT SIT BACK SOLIDLY AND WATCHED THE
9:10:44AM MURDER OF JIMMY LEE JACKSON EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE.
9:10:48AM HE SAY WHITE LAWMAKERS, WHITE CHURCHGOERS, WHITE PREACHERS,
9:10:52AM HE CALLED IT OUT.
9:10:54AM HE EVEN SAID BLACK FOLK THAT SIT BACK AND WATCH THE
9:10:58AM BRUTALITY OF BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY SUFFER
9:11:02AM NEEDLESS HARM IS EQUALLY GUILTY.
9:11:05AM WHY DO I BRING THAT UP?
9:11:06AM BECAUSE EVERY WEEK WHEN YOU CHANGE AND MAKE POLICIES LIKE
9:11:10AM TODAY IN YOUR WORKSHOP, YOUR RESOLUTION 344 THAT WAS SIGNED
9:11:14AM BY THE MAYOR SAID RECOGNIZE KEY THINGS THAT YOU WAS GOING TO
9:11:17AM BE DISCUSSING TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR BLACK
9:11:21AM FOLKS, IT'S NOWHERE ON THE AGENDA.
9:11:23AM YOU JUST MOVED SWIFTLY BY AS IF IT MEANS NOTHING TO US.
9:11:28AM YET INSTEAD WHAT YOU DO DO IS ACKNOWLEDGE THINGS THAT YOU
9:11:34AM WOULDN'T EVEN PRESENT TO YOUR COMMUNITY.
9:11:36AM JOBS IN WORKSHOPS AND JOB FAIRS THAT DO NOT IMPROVE THE
9:11:40AM ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:11:42AM SO WHEN THE QUESTION IS ASKED, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
9:11:46AM CONTINUAL ECONOMIC DECLINE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, I'M
9:11:50AM LOOKING AT IT.
9:11:51AM I'M LOOKING AT PAST ADMINISTRATIONS.
9:11:54AM I'M LOOKING AT NOW THE PRESENT MAYOR.
9:11:58AM WHEN YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE FORWARD TO BLACK
9:12:01AM FOLKS IN THIS CITY CAN HAVE A REAL RELIEF OF ECONOMIC
9:12:07AM OPPORTUNITIES.
9:12:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:12:08AM OUR NEXT AND LET ME MAKE SURE FINAL SPEAKER ON ITEM 1 IS
9:12:13AM MS. AILEEN HENDERSON.
9:12:15AM YES, MA'AM.
9:12:15AM GOOD MORNING.
9:12:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:12:18AM YES.
9:12:19AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:12:21AM I'M DEFINITELY HERE TO SUPPORT IT.
9:12:23AM IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
9:12:25AM SOME OF YOU WERE NOT ON COUNCIL WHEN WE FOUGHT TO SAVE
9:12:29AM WOODLAWN CEMETERY.
9:12:31AM TECHNICALLY, IT WASN'T WOODLAWN.
9:12:33AM IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY, THE GREATER TAMPA SHOWMAN'S
9:12:37AM ASSOCIATION.
9:12:38AM RIGHTFULLY HAD A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
9:12:39AM HOWEVER THOSE FOLKS HAD TO DO THEIR OWN GPR.
9:12:42AM THEY DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD ONE, I MIGHT ADD.
9:12:45AM WE HAVE ANOTHER SITUATION WITH MARTI-COLON.
9:12:48AM SOME OF YOU WERE HERE FOR THAT.
9:12:49AM AGAIN, A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
9:12:51AM THESE FOLKS HAD TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN GPR.
9:12:54AM WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT?
9:12:56AM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
9:12:57AM COLLEGE HILL.
9:12:58AM WE ALL KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT.
9:13:00AM WE KNOW THEY HAVE DONE THE GPR.
9:13:01AM TELL YOU WHAT, WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN NICE IF WE COULD HAVE
9:13:04AM SAID TO THEM, HEY, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE GPR.
9:13:06AM WE'LL SPEND THE MONEY FOR YOU, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE IN A FIGHT
9:13:09AM OVER THE FACT WHETHER THEY WILL ALLOW US TO SEE IT OR NOT
9:13:13AM AND THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.
9:13:14AM WE KNOW THERE ARE BODIES THERE.
9:13:16AM AND THE CITY REALLY NEEDS TO WORK WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE
9:13:19AM IN OUR CEMETERIES.
9:13:20AM LOOK, NOBODY THOUGHT WE WOULD BE HERE TODAY WHEN IT COMES TO
9:13:24AM FINDING THESE CEMETERIES.
9:13:25AM NOBODY.
9:13:26AM WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WOULD BE HERE TODAY, BUT WE ARE HERE
9:13:29AM TODAY.
9:13:30AM I'VE HEARD COUNTLESS TIMES EVERY FIGHT I'VE HAD FOR
9:13:33AM CEMETERIES, CITIES NOT IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS AND WHAT A
9:13:36AM BIG MISTAKE THAT IS.
9:13:38AM BECAUSE FROM A TOURIST PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN CAPITALIZE ON
9:13:43AM THAT AND WE CAN BRING IN THOSE TOURIST TAX DOLLARS.
9:13:46AM THERE IS A MULTIPLIER EFFECT THAT WE HAVE THERE, BUT WE HAVE
9:13:49AM TO FIND THEM FIRST.
9:13:51AM AND WE NEED THE CITY TO HELP WITH THAT.
9:13:54AM PURCHASE THE LAND AND THEN WE MAKE IT HAPPEN.
9:13:57AM FOR ME, IT JUST MAKES SENSE.
9:14:00AM I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF CEMETERIES,
9:14:03AM BUT IT'S HERE.
9:14:04AM THESE ARE WALKING MUSEUMS.
9:14:05AM WE NEED TO EMBRACE THEM AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
9:14:08AM ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:14:09AM WE REALLY, REALLY DO.
9:14:11AM THANK YOU.
9:14:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:14:12AM LET ME JUST REFRESH HERE.
9:14:17AM THAT IS OUR FINAL SPEAKER FOR ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:14:20AM WE ARE GOING TO NOW START WITH ITEM NUMBER 2 OF WHICH WE
9:14:25AM HAVE QUITE A FEW PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
9:14:27AM ITEM NUMBER 2, IF THERE IS A PRESENTATION OR THE MAKER OF
9:14:31AM THE MOTION, WHICH IS COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:35AM DO YOU WANT TO START OFF THE DISCUSSION, SIR?
9:14:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND
9:14:42AM WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE AND HOW THEY ARE MOVING ALONG.
9:14:46AM I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE PRESENTATION ON THE BIANNUAL
9:14:52AM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REPORT.
9:14:53AM I THINK IT IS BEST FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO START IT OFF
9:14:55AM AND BRING UP WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT.
9:14:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. DUNCAN, ARE YOU GOING TO KICK OFF
9:15:01AM THE PowerPoint?
9:15:12AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:15:14AM JEAN DUNCAN, ADMINISTRATOR FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
9:15:18AM WE ARE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT GREAT 8 PROJECTS.
9:15:25AM WE HAVE A REPORT WE SUBMITTED AND WE SELECTED A HANDFUL OF
9:15:27AM THE PROJECTS TO HIGHLIGHT TODAY.
9:15:28AM OF COURSE, WE'RE AVAILABLE AT ANY TIME DURING THIS MEETING
9:15:31AM OR OTHERWISE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
9:15:33AM MUCH OF THE MATERIAL OF ALL THESE PROJECTS IS IN OUR CITY OF
9:15:37AM TAMPA WEBSITE.
9:15:39AM IT'S ON THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS OF WHICH ARE THE OWNERS OF
9:15:42AM THOSE PROJECTS, WHETHER IT'S MOBILITY, WHETHER IT'S FIRE,
9:15:46AM ET CETERA.
9:15:47AM WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL THE C.I.P. VIEWER.
9:15:50AM WE CONTINUALLY TRY TO PROMOTE THAT TO OUR CITIZENS.
9:15:53AM YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT MAP AT ANY TIME OF ANY PARTICULAR
9:15:56AM LOCATION YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
9:15:59AM PROJECT IN THAT AREA AND THE BASIC DETAILS AND WHERE YOU CAN
9:16:02AM FIND MORE INFORMATION.
9:16:04AM I APOLOGIZE.
9:16:09AM NOT SURE IF CTTV --
9:16:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S ON THE SCREEN.
9:16:13AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU.
9:16:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
9:16:14AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU.
9:16:16AM CTTV, CAN YOU PROGRESS THE SLIDES FOR ME, IF YOU DON'T MIND?
9:16:22AM IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AGAIN, JUST REFRESHING ON WHAT
9:16:26AM WE MEAN BY THE GREAT 8, IT'S BASICALLY OUR NAME WE HAVE
9:16:31AM GIVEN FOR THE INTERNAL PROCESS OF ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS
9:16:34AM WITHIN THE CITY ORGANIZATION THAT HAVE A HAND IN DEVELOPING
9:16:39AM AND COMMUNICATING THESE PROJECTS FOR FURTHER PROGRESSION AND
9:16:44AM FOR COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC.
9:16:46AM CTTV, IF YOU ARE UP THERE -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
9:16:53AM I'LL CARRY ON.
9:17:01AM AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR HANDOUT THAT WAS PROVIDED ON THE
9:17:06AM PROJECT SUMMARY SLIDE, PLEASE, AGAIN, THE FORMAT OF THIS IS
9:17:11AM BASIC INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION, THE
9:17:15AM DEPARTMENT, THE DISTRICT THE PROJECT IS IN, WHAT WE CALL THE
9:17:20AM OWNER, THAT POINT OF CONTACT PERSON YOU CAN REACH OUT TO TO
9:17:23AM GET BASIC INFORMATION.
9:17:25AM WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED PROJECT STATUS AND SCHEDULE WITH THE
9:17:28AM UPDATES THAT WE GIVE TO YOU.
9:17:29AM WE PROVIDE SOME FUNDING INFORMATION.
9:17:31AM WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR BUDGET DEPARTMENT TO STAY ACCURATE
9:17:35AM ON IT AS BEST WE CAN, AND WE ALSO TRY TO PROVIDE PHOTOS.
9:17:39AM AGAIN, A LOT OF THE CONTENT IS ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.
9:17:43AM SO THAT'S JUST SORT OF THE FRAMEWORK OF -- THANK YOU.
9:17:47AM FRAMEWORK OF THESE PRESENTATIONS.
9:17:49AM WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THESE NOW.
9:17:52AM WE KNOW MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE WHOLE FORMAT THAT
9:17:55AM WE'VE TAKEN TO TRY TO GIVE YOU CONDENSED INFORMATION IN A
9:17:58AM SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
9:18:00AM AGAIN, I'LL JUST MENTION, THE OPEN GOV.
9:18:03AM MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THAT.
9:18:05AM OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM IS ON THERE.
9:18:07AM AGAIN, WITH THE BASIC INFORMATION OF ALL THESE PROJECTS,
9:18:09AM SUCH AS THE DESCRIPTION, FUNDING AND PLANNING FOR THE NEXT
9:18:15AM FIVE YEARS AND THE GIS MAP, A LOAD OF INFORMATION ON THERE.
9:18:22AM VERY EASY TO USE.
9:18:24AM CLICK ON DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND YOU GET THE INFORMATION
9:18:26AM YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
9:18:27AM TODAY WE PICKED A HANDFUL OF PROJECTS THAT WE'LL SHARE WITH
9:18:37AM YOU.
9:18:37AM AGAIN, WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU
9:18:41AM WANT TO ENTERTAIN TODAY.
9:18:42AM WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PROJECTS, LOGISTICS AND ASSET
9:18:48AM MANAGEMENT TEAM.
9:18:49AM TWO DECENTRALIZATION PROJECTS TO SHARE.
9:18:53AM SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
9:18:55AM FIRE STATION 24.
9:18:56AM TPD HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX BUILDING.
9:18:59AM AND THEN AN UPDATE ON THE SOLID WASTE COMPLEX RELOCATION.
9:19:03AM THE EAST TAMPA REC CENTER, AND TWO OF OUR PIPES PROJECTS,
9:19:08AM ONE FOR WATER AND ONE OF YOUR WASTEWATER.
9:19:10AM WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A NICE COMPLEMENT OF THE DIFFERENT
9:19:14AM PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON TO GIVE YOU UPDATES ON THOSE
9:19:18AM KEY PROJECTS.
9:19:18AM SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO ADRI COLINA.
9:19:24AM WE HAVE SEVERAL DEPARTMENT LEADERS TO GIVE YOU THE
9:19:28AM PRESENTATIONS.
9:19:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS AFTER EACH
9:19:31AM BREAK?
9:19:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE A QUESTION OVERALL.
9:19:34AM THESE PROJECTS DON'T MATCH THE GREAT 8 PROJECT REPORT THAT
9:19:38AM YOU GAVE TO US.
9:19:39AM IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT?
9:19:40AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE GREAT 8 REPORT HAS MORE PROJECTS IN IT
9:19:44AM THAN THE PowerPoint.
9:19:45AM THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PowerPoint ARE IN THE GREAT 8
9:19:50AM REPORT.
9:19:51AM THERE'S PROBABLY TWICE AS MANY PROJECTS IN THE REPORT AS
9:19:54AM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT.
9:19:56AM WE JUST FEEL LIKE TO GO OVER EVERY SINGLE ONE IN THE REPORT
9:20:00AM WOULD BE QUITE TIME-CONSUMING.
9:20:02AM EACH TIME WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH THE MEETINGS, WE PICK OUT
9:20:05AM A HANDFUL THAT ARE IN A STATE OF PROGRESSION AND THINK WOULD
9:20:09AM BE OF INTEREST IN TERMS OF THE SCHEDULE AND SO FORTH.
9:20:11AM AGAIN, ANY PROJECT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, WE'LL DO OUR BEST
9:20:15AM WITH THE TEAM WE HAVE HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS OR
9:20:17AM CERTAINLY GET BACK TO YOU IF WE NEED TO.
9:20:19AM THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
9:20:21AM ADRI.
9:20:26AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU, JEAN.
9:20:29AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:20:31AM ADRI COLINA, DEPARTMENT OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
9:20:36AM I WANT TO BEGIN ACTUALLY BY THANKING COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
9:20:42AM HAGAR.
9:20:43AM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THEY SPENT SEVERAL HOURS TOURING THE
9:20:47AM FLEET SITES AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE FLEET DIVISION.
9:20:50AM WE GREATLY ENJOYED OUR TIME WITH YOU.
9:20:53AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:20:54AM THEY ARE THE BEHIND-THE-SCENES TEAM.
9:20:55AM TODAY, THE TWO SLIDES THAT I'M GOING TO COVER FALL UNDER OUR
9:20:59AM DECENTRALIZATION INITIATIVE, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO ENHANCE
9:21:03AM OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES BY STRATEGICALLY LOCATING FLEET
9:21:06AM MAINTENANCE SITES EMBEDDED WITHIN THE USER DEPARTMENTS.
9:21:10AM SO OUR CUSTOMERS.
9:21:11AM THIS WILL REDUCE THE DOWNTIME OF THOSE VEHICLES BECAUSE THEY
9:21:17AM DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL FROM THEIR DEPARTMENT TO THE
9:21:20AM CENTRALIZED LOCATION WHERE WE HAVE SERVICED THEM FOR MANY,
9:21:23AM MANY YEARS AND IT WILL INCREASE THEIR VEHICLE AVAILABILITY,
9:21:26AM WHICH ULTIMATELY AFFECTS THOSE DEPARTMENTS' ABILITY TO
9:21:29AM PROVIDE SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS.
9:21:31AM I WANT TO THANK OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND THE CAD DEPARTMENT,
9:21:35AM BUDGET, AND T AND I BECAUSE THEY HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY
9:21:39AM WITH US ON THIS INITIATIVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE
9:21:42AM SAME PAGE.
9:21:43AM FOR THE 40th STREET SITE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU
9:21:46AM ON THE SCREEN, THAT SITE WILL SERVICE WATER, MOBILITY, AND
9:21:51AM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
9:21:52AM IT WILL BE THEIR HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT WE CANNOT SERVICE AT
9:21:57AM HANNA.
9:21:58AM SO THE FIRST SITE WE BEGAN WAS THE HANNA SITE WHICH SERVICES
9:22:02AM LIGHT-DUTY VEHICLES.
9:22:03AM WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THAT COMMUNITY WE WOULDN'T HAVE
9:22:07AM HEAVY EQUIPMENT THERE, AND WE'VE KEPT THAT.
9:22:09AM HEAVY EQUIPMENT WILL BE SERVICED AT 40th STREET FOR THE
9:22:12AM DEPARTMENTS THAT I OUTLINED.
9:22:13AM WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT PROJECT, WE ARE CURRENTLY AT 60%
9:22:17AM DRAWINGS, AND WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THEM AT 100% AND A GMP
9:22:23AM BEFORE YOU IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.
9:22:24AM THAT WENT THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE CCNA PROCESS AND THE
9:22:28AM DESIGN BUILDER SELECTED WAS A.D. MORGAN AND WILDER
9:22:32AM ARCHITECTURE.
9:22:33AM THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON APRIL 20 OF 2023.
9:22:37AM THE ESTIMATED TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $13.9 MILLION FOR THAT,
9:22:44AM AND WE ANTICIPATE STARTING IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR AND IT WILL
9:22:49AM TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO COMPLETE THAT.
9:22:51AM THE EVO GOAL FOR THAT IS 24%.
9:22:55AM BBE, 11.75%.
9:22:58AM AND SLBE 12.25%.
9:23:00AM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
9:23:05AM THE NEXT SLIDE -- OH, I'M SORRY.
9:23:14AM I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
9:23:15AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
9:23:16AM SO THE NEXT SITE IS AT PORT TAMPA.
9:23:20AM OUR CUSTOMER THERE IS WASTEWATER.
9:23:22AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING EXTREMELY CLOSELY WITH THEM TO DESIGN
9:23:26AM THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS DESIGNED TO BEST SERVE THEIR
9:23:29AM NEEDS.
9:23:30AM THIS, TOO, WENT THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE CCNA PROCESS.
9:23:33AM THE DESIGN-BUILD TEAM SELECTED WAS BANDES CONSTRUCTION WITH
9:23:40AM LONG AND ASSOCIATES AS THE ARCHITECTS AND CAMPO ENGINEERING
9:23:43AM AS CIVIL ENGINEERS.
9:23:45AM IT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL MARCH 16, 2023.
9:23:53AM THAT GMP, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF LAST
9:23:53AM YEAR, IS $14.3 MILLION.
9:23:54AM WE ANTICIPATE STARTING THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS,
9:23:58AM ACTUALLY.
9:23:58AM IT IS IN PERMITTING AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE OUR PERMIT ANY DAY
9:24:02AM NOW.
9:24:02AM THAT WILL BEGIN WITH MOBILIZATION OF THE SITE.
9:24:05AM THAT, TOO, WILL BE COMPLETED NEXT YEAR.
9:24:07AM WE HAVE SUSTAINABLE FEATURES DESIGNED IN EACH OF THEM.
9:24:14AM EV CHARGING STATIONS AND OTHER ENERGY EFFICIENT FIXTURES AND
9:24:19AM COMPONENTS AND THERE ARE MANY BENEFITS TO THIS.
9:24:21AM AS I MENTIONED, CURRENTLY JUST FOR THOSE TWO SITES IN THE
9:24:24AM DEPARTMENTS THAT WE SERVE, IT'S A ROUND TRIP 16-MILE TRIP
9:24:28AM FOR THEM TO BRING THEIR VEHICLE TO THE SITE THAT THEY ARE
9:24:30AM BEING SERVICED NOW.
9:24:31AM AND DEPENDING ON TRAFFIC, 20, 40 MINUTES TO GO ROUND TRIP.
9:24:35AM WE'LL HELP THEM THERE EXPAND THE LIFE SPAN OF THE VEHICLE BY
9:24:39AM LESS MILEAGE, AND IMPROVE CUSTOMER SERVICE.
9:24:41AM ANY QUESTIONS?
9:24:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
9:24:45AM YES, MA'AM.
9:24:47AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:24:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:24:48AM I JUST WANT TO SAY I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT
9:24:53AM YOU AND YOUR TEAM PUT TOGETHER FOR THE TOUR.
9:24:56AM IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT, YOU SHOULD REALLY GO SEE THE NEW
9:25:00AM FLEET.
9:25:00AM IT'S AMAZING.
9:25:01AM I DID A TOUR WITH THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS TEAM.
9:25:08AM I WAS TALKING TO THEM WAS IT TUESDAY?
9:25:13AM THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO THEIR RADAR OR OFFICER CAR, FOUR-WHEEL
9:25:20AM DRIVE CALIBRATION.
9:25:21AM AND THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
9:25:24AM THERE ARE SOME REALLY GREAT THINGS COMING.
9:25:26AM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORT.
9:25:28AM AND THEY EVEN TOOK ME TO THE SITES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
9:25:31AM PUTTING THESE THINGS ON.
9:25:32AM SO LIKE THE FIRST BUILDING IS ACTUALLY A REPURPOSE.
9:25:34AM IT'S NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
9:25:36AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORT IN THAT.
9:25:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:25:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT SHE WAS TALKING,
9:25:46AM I WAS LISTENING, BUT I WAS ALSO WRITING, NOT THAT I CAN DO
9:25:49AM TWO THINGS AT ONCE BUT ADDING UP THE TOTAL OF THE PROJECTS,
9:25:54AM OVER $450 MILLION.
9:25:56AM RIGHT AT $450 MILLION WHAT I SAW IN THE BOOK FROM THE WHOLE
9:26:00AM 8 THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO
9:26:02AM SPEAK ABOUT.
9:26:03AM IT'S A LOT OF MONEY BUT HAS TO BE DONE TO CREATE EFFICIENCY,
9:26:10AM MODERNIZE.
9:26:10AM ALL THE EQUIPMENT HAS TO BE CHANGED.
9:26:12AM BUY SOMETHING, DOESN'T LAST FOREVER.
9:26:15AM ANYTHING YOU BUY TODAY, FROM AIR CONDITIONING TO VEHICLES TO
9:26:20AM TRUCKS AND THE INCREASE IN PRICE OF THESE THINGS HAVE REALLY
9:26:23AM GONE UP.
9:26:26AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU.
9:26:27AM YES.
9:26:27AM YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
9:26:28AM THE NEXT TWO COMING DOWN THE PIKE, SOLID WASTE
9:26:34AM DECENTRALIZATION AND FIRE FLEET SIDE.
9:26:35AM NEXT UP WILL BE OUR STORMWATER ENGINEERING MANAGER.
9:26:40AM THANK YOU.
9:26:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:26:42AM GOOD MORNING.
9:26:46AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:26:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:26:49AM SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF, YOU ARE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH
9:26:56AM THIS PROJECT.
9:26:57AM I WILL GIVE A QUICK SUMMARY FIRST AND THEN PROVIDE UPDATE,
9:27:04AM NEW ACTIVITIES SINCE NOVEMBER WHEN YOU APPROVED THE
9:27:07AM DESIGN-BUILD INITIAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.
9:27:13AM WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
9:27:21AM THE PROJECT IS ALONG THE SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE AND ADJACENT
9:27:28AM NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE FLOODING HAS BEEN A MAJOR CONCERN FOR THE
9:27:32AM PAST DECADES.
9:27:33AM IN THE SUMMER 2015, 23 HOMES IN PARKLAND ESTATES REPORTED
9:27:39AM FLOODING.
9:27:39AM MOST RECENTLY DURING MILTON, AT LEAST 150 HOMES WERE
9:27:45AM FLOODED.
9:27:49AM IN BOTH CASES -- REPAIRS ARE STILL ONGOING AT THIS POINT.
9:27:57AM IN BOTH CASES -- INACCESSIBLE PUTTING PEOPLE'S LIVES IN
9:28:02AM JEOPARDY.
9:28:02AM JUST BEFORE MILTON, STREET FLOODING WAS REPORTED FROM -- IN
9:28:16AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND RESTRICTING PEOPLE TO GET INTO THEIR
9:28:19AM HOMES.
9:28:19AM THREE YEARS OF ENGINEERING STUDY, WE CONCLUDED THAT
9:28:27AM INADEQUATE DRAINAGE CAPACITY IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF THE
9:28:32AM FLOODING ISSUES.
9:28:33AM JUST TO PUT THINGS A LITTLE BIT IN PERSPECTIVE, DURING
9:28:41AM MILTON, THOUSANDS OF HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF
9:28:45AM WATER WERE -- BY THE HURRICANE.
9:28:50AM TO OFFSET THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WATER, WE NEED 25-ACRE POND
9:28:55AM TO ACCOMMODATE THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WATER.
9:28:59AM BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE DO NOT HAVE
9:29:03AM THAT LUXURY.
9:29:03AM ONLY OTHER WAY TO GET THE WATER OFF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS
9:29:13AM DRAIN IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO THE BAY.
9:29:15AM SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS PROJECT IS TRYING TO
9:29:18AM ACCOMPLISH.
9:29:19AM ADDING A MAJOR CONVEYANCE TO DRIVE THE MASSIVE WATER TO THE
9:29:25AM BAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:29:26AM BESIDES THE FLOOD RELIEF, THIS PROJECT ALSO BRING MANY OTHER
9:29:38AM BENEFITS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SUCH AS UPGRADED WASTEWATER
9:29:41AM AND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALSO REIMAGINE STREETSCAPE
9:29:48AM ALONG SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE AND IMPROVE THE WATER QUALITY
9:29:52AM DISCHARGES TO THE BAY AND ALSO WE HAVE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
9:30:01AM EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE DRAINAGE BY
9:30:06AM EXPANSION PROJECT AND ALSO WE'RE WORKING WITH TECO CLOSELY
9:30:08AM TO PUT UTILITY UNDERGROUND.
9:30:13AM NEW ACTIVITIES SINCE LAST NOVEMBER, SO THE PROJECT KICKED
9:30:17AM OFF IN JANUARY.
9:30:20AM WE HAVE A NEW DEDICATED WEBSITE AVAILABLE.
9:30:26AM IT WENT LIVE LAST FRIDAY.
9:30:28AM YOU PROBABLY GET A LITTLE BIT, THE WEBSITE, MANY GOOD
9:30:35AM RESOURCES.
9:30:36AM PEOPLE CAN SEND UP -- SET UP AN E-MAIL AND GET ALERT WHAT IS
9:30:40AM GOING ON AND ALSO PROVIDE COMMENTS BY PUTTING THEIR NAME AND
9:30:43AM CONTACT INFORMATION.
9:30:44AM THEY CAN ATTACH INFORMATION LIKE FLOODING PHOTOS.
9:30:55AM THE DESIGN-BUILD TEAM IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE ANALYSIS
9:31:04AM FOR FEASIBILITY.
9:31:05AM ALSO THEY STARTED SOME EARLY WORK LIKE DEVELOPING THE
9:31:10AM STREETSCAPE PLAN.
9:31:12AM AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT WORK CAN BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC IN
9:31:15AM ABOUT PROBABLY EARLY MAY.
9:31:20AM WE'LL BE HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING TO SHARE THE KIND OF
9:31:24AM INFORMATION.
9:31:24AM WE MADE PROGRESS WORKING WITH THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
9:31:35AM WE GOT THE AGREEMENT BACK FOR THE $11 MILLION THEY ARE
9:31:40AM TRYING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS PROJECT AND ATTORNEY SEND
9:31:46AM COMMENTS BACK EARLY IN FEBRUARY.
9:31:48AM SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET BACK SOON.
9:31:52AM THE TOTAL PROJECT FOR THIS ONE IS $64.5 MILLION.
9:31:57AM 39 FROM THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
9:32:03AM THIS WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2016 AND $4.5 MILLION FROM WATER
9:32:08AM DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR UPGRADE AND $10 MILLION FROM FLORIDA
9:32:13AM ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION RESILIENT FLORIDA PROGRAM.
9:32:18AM TO COMPLEMENT THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WE ARE ALSO
9:32:27AM DOING SOME SHORT-TERM PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:32:31AM FOR EXAMPLE, IN PALMA CEIA, THE PAVING STARTED IN FEBRUARY.
9:32:37AM WHAT WE ARE DOING THERE TO ADJUST THE PAVING, OPTIMIZE --
9:32:52AM ALSO TRYING TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE BY INCREASING THE INLAND
9:32:56AM CAPACITY.
9:32:58AM AND ALSO WE ARE DOING THE SIMILAR WORK IN PARKLAND ESTATES,
9:33:04AM OPERATIONS AND ENGINEERING ARE WORKING CLOSELY TO IMPROVE
9:33:10AM THE INLAND CAPACITY IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
9:33:13AM SO THAT IS THE WORK WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING.
9:33:16AM AND THIS WORK SHOULD BE DONE IN APRIL BEFORE THE STORM
9:33:22AM SEASON STARTS.
9:33:24AM BY THE WAY, RIGHT AFTER MILTON, WE MET SEVERAL COUNCIL
9:33:38AM MEMBERS, NEIGHBORS.
9:33:46AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:33:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:50AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:33:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M LOOKING AT THIS MAP.
9:33:53AM I SEE TWO PROBLEMATIC THINGS.
9:33:55AM ONE FROM THE DISCUSSIONS ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:33:57AM I SEE BRISTOL AVENUE STILL ON THERE AS A PROPOSED OPTION.
9:34:01AM THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY VOTED ON AND EXCLUDED FROM THIS
9:34:04AM COUNCIL.
9:34:04AM I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO SHOW UP ON OTHER MAPS.
9:34:07AM SECONDLY, THERE WAS ALSO A DISCUSSION DURING THE TIME THAT
9:34:09AM WE VOTED FOR THE DESIGN-BUILD THAT THERE WOULD BE OTHER
9:34:12AM ROUTES THAT WERE PURSUED ON THIS PROJECT, OTHER OPTIONS
9:34:15AM PURSUED, NOT THAT WE WERE LOCKING IT INTO ANY ONE GIVEN
9:34:19AM ROUTE, BUT AT LEAST THEY WERE EXPLORED.
9:34:21AM I'M CURIOUS WHERE IN THE PROJECT DOES IT SHOW THEY ARE
9:34:23AM EXPLORING OTHER OPTIONS?
9:34:27AM >> BEFORE COUNCIL APPROVED THIS PROJECT IN NOVEMBER,
9:34:32AM NOVEMBER 21st, WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18.
9:34:36AM WE PRESENTED ALTERNATIVES THAT WE COMMITTED TO EXPLORE,
9:34:42AM ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS.
9:34:46AM BRISTOL AND MORRISON.
9:34:48AM WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THOSE ARE THE THREE ALTERNATIVES.
9:34:52AM ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS AND TO COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC TO SHARE
9:34:55AM THE FINDINGS.
9:34:56AM AFTER THAT, A CONCERNED GROUP TRIED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
9:35:07AM CONCEPTS.
9:35:08AM WE AGREED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE CONCEPTS.
9:35:12AM CURRENTLY, WE ARE WORKING ON -- INTERNAL STAFF ARE LOOKING
9:35:16AM AT THOSE ALTERNATIVES, AND WE'LL BE REPORTING BACK --
9:35:24AM FUNDING IN THE SAME TIME FRAME, EARLY MAY TO SHARE OUR
9:35:28AM FINDINGS ALONG WITH THE ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS THAT THE
9:35:31AM DESIGN-BUILD TEAM IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON.
9:35:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU GUYS ARE BEHIND THE SCENES WORKING ON
9:35:36AM OTHER ALTERNATIVES OR AT LEAST REPORT BACK TO US AND CONFIRM
9:35:39AM THAT BRISTOL IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE DISPLAYED AS AN
9:35:43AM OPTION.
9:35:44AM >> BRISTOL IS ONE OF THE THREE.
9:35:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WAS ACTUALLY SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED
9:35:48AM FROM COUNCIL.
9:35:49AM THAT SHOULD NOT BE ON ANY OF THESE.
9:35:51AM SORRY, JEAN.
9:35:53AM GO AHEAD.
9:35:54AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I APPRECIATE THAT POSITION.
9:35:58AM HOWEVER, THAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT.
9:35:59AM THAT CORRIDOR WAS IN THE CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS
9:36:03AM BODY.
9:36:04AM SO IT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC TO TAKE THAT OUT AT THIS POINT.
9:36:07AM BUT WE RECOGNIZE THE POSITION THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE AND SOME
9:36:12AM OF THE --
9:36:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS VOTED ON AND PASSED BY THE BODY
9:36:18AM UNANIMOUSLY.
9:36:19AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WELL, I HAVE TO SEE THE TIME FRAME OF THAT.
9:36:21AM THE CONTRACT APPROVED BY THIS BODY INCLUDES THAT CORRIDOR AS
9:36:25AM ONE OF THE OPTIONS TO LOOK AT.
9:36:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC, I WAS
9:36:29AM ON THE APPROVING SIDE OF THIS, I MAY REVISIT THAT VOTE.
9:36:33AM I NEED TO HAVE THAT REPORT BACK TO SAY THAT'S GOING TO BE
9:36:36AM PROBLEMATIC.
9:36:37AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT.
9:36:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND CARLSON.
9:36:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE THE WEBSITE THAT WAS
9:36:44AM CREATED?
9:36:44AM BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON ANY OF THIS.
9:36:46AM IF YOU COULD SHARE IT SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHERE TO GO.
9:36:49AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: SURE.
9:36:51AM >> SURE.
9:36:52AM SHSTORMWATER.COM.
9:37:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
9:37:04AM I WILL MAKE SURE TO SIGN UP MYSELF AND ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO DO
9:37:08AM THAT.
9:37:08AM I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT FUNDING.
9:37:12AM I DON'T SEE MR. ROGERO HERE.
9:37:14AM I'LL ASK EITHER MS. DUNCAN OR MAYBE EVEN MS. KOPESKY MIGHT
9:37:21AM BE ABLE TO HELP ME WITH THIS.
9:37:22AM IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE WORKING WITH THEA TO GET THE $11
9:37:26AM MILLION.
9:37:27AM YOU'RE WORKING ON THE CONTRACT.
9:37:29AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE.
9:37:31AM DO WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH FDEP FOR THE 10 MILLION?
9:37:38AM DO WE HAVE THAT MONEY OR IS IT REIMBURSABLE?
9:37:42AM >> REIMBURSABLE.
9:37:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO WE HAVE A SIGNED AGREEMENT ABOUT THE
9:37:46AM REIMBURSABLENESS OF THIS FUNDING?
9:37:49AM >> WE DO.
9:37:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
9:37:54AM THOSE WERE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS.
9:37:56AM I WILL ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WE WERE
9:38:00AM EXPECTING TO SEE OPTIONS, ALTERNATE ROUTES.
9:38:02AM I KNOW THEY WERE NOT IN THE CONTRACT, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE
9:38:05AM ALL AGREED TO.
9:38:06AM I REALLY DO APPRECIATE WHAT WE'LL SEE GOING FORWARD.
9:38:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:38:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS
9:38:16AM AND I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
9:38:18AM WE KNOW FROM PRIOR TESTIMONY OF THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT
9:38:24AM THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE IN PARKLAND
9:38:28AM ESTATES OR PALMA CEIA PINES FOR FOUR YEARS.
9:38:31AM IT'S NOT GOING TO PROTECT THEM IN A MAJOR STORM AFTERWARDS,
9:38:34AM INCLUDING INTEREST, IT'S $130 MILLION.
9:38:36AM IN ALL THE AREAS THAT ARE FLOODED IN SOUTH TAMPA, THERE ARE
9:38:39AM NO NEW PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED.
9:38:41AM WE DESPERATELY NEED MAINTENANCE.
9:38:43AM IT'S BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS AND NO MAJOR MAINTENANCE IS GOING
9:38:46AM ON IN PALMA CEIA PINES.
9:38:47AM I JUST DROVE THROUGH IT AGAIN YESTERDAY.
9:38:50AM IN TERMS OF THE ROUTES, AS I REMEMBER, AND SOMEBODY PULLED
9:38:54AM UP THE TRANSCRIPT YESTERDAY AND SENT IT TO US, COUNCIL
9:38:58AM MEMBER CLENDENIN'S VOTE WAS BASED ON LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL
9:39:03AM ROUTES.
9:39:03AM I THINK THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO MAY
9:39:06AM TESTIFY TO THIS, BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND SECOND HAND IS THAT
9:39:09AM THEY WENT IN GOOD FAITH AND HIRED A CONSULTANT, ONE OF THE
9:39:14AM TOP ENGINEERS IN THE AREA, TO GO TO MEET WITH MR. BHIDE TO
9:39:18AM PRESENT FIVE ROUTES.
9:39:19AM WHEN THEY PRESENTED FIVE ROUTES, THE FIRST ONE HE SAID,
9:39:21AM WELL, WE ALREADY LOOKED AT THAT, WON'T LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
9:39:25AM THE OTHER FOUR, WELL, THOSE ARE NEW ROUTES, AREN'T GOING TO
9:39:29AM LOOK AT THOSE EITHER.
9:39:30AM THE MAYOR HAS SINCE INTERVENED.
9:39:33AM VIK TOLD THE GROUP AS I HEARD SECOND HAND THAT THEY ARE NOT
9:39:36AM GOING TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL ROUTES.
9:39:38AM IF THE CONTRACT PROHIBITED OTHER ROUTES, THAT SHOULD HAVE
9:39:40AM BEEN STATED CLEARLY TO THE PUBLIC THAT EVERYBODY IN THE
9:39:43AM PUBLIC MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THE CONTRACT BUT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
9:39:47AM STATED CLEARLY TO THE PUBLIC.
9:39:48AM THE PUBLIC DOES NOT WANT THIS TO GO DOWN BRISTOL, WHICH WE
9:39:52AM ALREADY VOTED FOR.
9:39:53AM THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT IT TO GO DOWN
9:39:55AM HOWARD.
9:39:56AM UNFORTUNATELY THE MAYOR AND HER STAFF MOSTLY MET WITH A
9:39:58AM SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
9:40:00AM WE KNOW NOW THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS THEY HAVE GIVEN
9:40:03AM MISINFORMATION.
9:40:04AM THEY STIRRED UP TROUBLE IN THE MEDIA.
9:40:06AM STIRRED UP POLITICAL FIGHTING.
9:40:08AM STIRRED UP ANGER THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ISSUE EVER IN THIS
9:40:12AM CITY.
9:40:13AM THE FEROCITY OF THE ANGER, THE PERSONAL ATTACKS,
9:40:19AM UNBELIEVABLE.
9:40:20AM NOW WE KNOW THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS, IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
9:40:23AM HASN'T SENT THEM, WILL SEND THEM.
9:40:25AM STIRRED UP BY THE MAYOR'S STAFF.
9:40:27AM PUBLIC IS ASKING WHY.
9:40:28AM $130 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK, THAT'S GOING
9:40:30AM TO TEAR UP HOWARD.
9:40:31AM IT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY TEAR UP BRISTOL, TEAR UP THE
9:40:35AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:40:35AM THE VAST MAJORITY OF NEIGHBORS IN PARKLAND ESTATES ARE
9:40:39AM AGAINST IT, DESPITE WHAT THE FEW SAY.
9:40:42AM WE KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP PALMA CEIA PINES EITHER.
9:40:45AM AS I POINTED OUT TO VIK IN THE MEETING, PALMA CEIA PINES WAS
9:40:49AM NOT ON THE MAP.
9:40:50AM NOT ON THE WEBSITE.
9:40:51AM THERE ARE FEW LITTLE THINGS BEING DONE NOW.
9:40:53AM BUT A SERIOUS LOOK AT PALMA CEIA PINES.
9:40:56AM WE TALKED TO ENGINEERS, SERIOUS LOOK AT PALMA CEIA PINES
9:40:59AM WOULD INCLUDE A SERIOUS PROJECT WHERE THEY WOULD BE
9:41:01AM INCLUDED.
9:41:02AM THEY WERE INCLUDED OBVIOUSLY FOR POLITICAL REASONS.
9:41:04AM WHY IS IT THAT THE MAYOR AND HER STAFF HAVE MET THREE OR
9:41:07AM FOUR TIMES WITH A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE BUT JUST MET ONCE
9:41:10AM WITH NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS ELECTED BY NEIGHBORS IN PARKLAND
9:41:14AM ESTATES.
9:41:15AM NO NEED TO STIR UP TROUBLE.
9:41:17AM WE NEED TO BRING HONEST SOLUTIONS.
9:41:19AM SINCE FOLKS, EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOR IT AND AGAINST
9:41:23AM SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS, NOW THEY ARE SEEING WE NEEDED
9:41:28AM SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS EVEN THOUGH THEY HECKLED US WHEN WE
9:41:33AM PROPOSED THEM BEFORE.
9:41:34AM FIND SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
9:41:38AM CANCEL THIS PROJECT.
9:41:39AM MISINFORMATION PRESENTED TO US AND THE COMMUNITY.
9:41:43AM NEED TO CANCEL IT, START OVER AND CREATE AN HONEST LOOK AT
9:41:46AM WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE, ALL THE PEOPLE IN
9:41:49AM THESE NEIGHBORHOODS DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED AS DO THE PEOPLE
9:41:53AM IN THE REST OF THE CITY WHOSE HOUSES WERE FLOODED.
9:41:55AM THANK YOU.
9:41:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY AFTER THAT.
9:41:57AM I'VE NEVER BEEN PRESSURED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WAY.
9:42:06AM NOBODY HAS TOLD ME HOW TO VOTE, WHAT TO VOTE.
9:42:08AM NOBODY PRESSURED ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE I TELL THEM
9:42:12AM TO GO TO HELL.
9:42:13AM BUT WE HAVE ENGINEERS WITH THE CITY.
9:42:21AM WE HAVE ENGINEERS FROM EVERYWHERE.
9:42:22AM WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT KNOW A LOT MORE.
9:42:25AM THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, LET ME JUST SAY THAT.
9:42:28AM THERE COMES A TIME AS WE TALK AND PUSH THIS FURTHER INTO
9:42:37AM SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT BAY IS THREE DEGREES WARMER AT THIS
9:42:40AM TIME THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR.
9:42:42AM WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?
9:42:47AM GET A COUPLE OF DROPS OF WATER AND THAT'S IT.
9:42:49AM THERE'S NO MORE WIND, NO MORE NOTHING?
9:42:51AM WE'RE PLAYING WITH DYNAMITE AND WE'RE ABOUT TO LIGHT THE
9:43:03AM FUSE.
9:43:03AM IF THAT HAPPENS, NOT ONLY WILL THAT AREA BE FLOODED, BUT
9:43:07AM MOST OF DOWNTOWN WILL BE GONE AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD
9:43:12AM BE IN THE SAME BOAT.
9:43:13AM I'M NOT TRYING TO SCARE ANYBODY, BUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN
9:43:17AM THIS COUNTRY.
9:43:18AM YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED?
9:43:21AM ELECTED OFFICIALS, INCLUDING MYSELF.
9:43:23AM UNTIL WE LISTEN TO PEOPLE THAT WE PAY TO DO WHAT'S GOT TO BE
9:43:30AM DONE, THE PUBLIC PAYS THEM.
9:43:32AM ALL OF US PAY THEM.
9:43:34AM ALWAYS JUMPING THEIR CASE IF THEY HAVEN'T DONE THE RIGHT
9:43:37AM THING.
9:43:37AM I'M NOT QUESTIONING ANYONE.
9:43:40AM I QUESTION MYSELF THEN.
9:43:41AM I TELL MYSELF, WHAT AM I DOING HERE?
9:43:46AM YOU ALL ARE THE EXPERTS, WHETHER I LIKE YOU OR NOT.
9:43:50AM IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AND YOUR IMMEDIATE BOSS'
9:43:56AM RESPONSIBILITY AND THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT'S
9:43:58AM RESPONSIBILITY AND FINALLY THIS COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO SAY
9:44:02AM YEA OR NAY.
9:44:05AM GET IT UP OR GET IT DOWN.
9:44:08AM I'M NEVER GOING TO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE NOT WORTH A DAMN
9:44:12AM UNTIL YOU PROVE IT TO ME.
9:44:14AM AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN.
9:44:18AM SO AS I SIT HERE, I WONDER, WHERE ARE WE GOING?
9:44:22AM EVERYTHING HERE IS ALREADY GOING TO THE NEXT ELECTION.
9:44:26AM I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NEXT ELECTION.
9:44:28AM I CARE ABOUT THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY WITH THE CITY OF
9:44:30AM TAMPA AND THE NEED TO FIX THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS THAT
9:44:34AM WE HAVE.
9:44:34AM WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY IN DOING THESE THINGS.
9:44:38AM BILLION PLUS, AND THAT'S WORKING FINE SO FAR.
9:44:50AM IT GETS TO BE SICKENING TO COME HERE TO WORK, NOT FOR ME
9:44:53AM BECAUSE I LOVE IT.
9:44:54AM YOU CAN EITHER GO UP OR YOU CAN GO DOWN.
9:44:56AM DON'T BOTHER ME ONE DAMN BIT.
9:45:00AM YOU KNOW WHY?
9:45:01AM IN LIFE, YOU DON'T WIN EVERY GAME IN SPORTS.
9:45:04AM DON'T WIN EVERY OPERATION YOU MAKE.
9:45:06AM YOU DON'T WIN ANYTHING THAT'S NOT WINNABLE.
9:45:08AM BUT YOU TRY.
9:45:09AM TRY TO FIX IT.
9:45:10AM THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
9:45:12AM THE PEOPLE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, PARKLAND ESTATES, THEY HAVE
9:45:16AM THE RIGHT TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION.
9:45:17AM BUT AT LEAST GIVE US A CHANCE TO PROVE US WRONG.
9:45:22AM WHAT ARE THEY GETTING IN SOUTH HOWARD IF IT HAPPENS?
9:45:26AM WE NEVER DONE IT.
9:45:28AM WIDER STREETS, UNDERGROUND ELECTRICAL.
9:45:32AM THAT MEANS SOMETHING HAPPENS, THEY WILL HAVE ELECTRICITY.
9:45:35AM MUCH BETTER AVENUE TO LOOK TO, AND I'M NOT AGAINST WHAT'S
9:45:42AM HAPPENING.
9:45:43AM I WANT TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE.
9:45:44AM MY CITY'S OPERATIONS AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WHEN IT FIRST
9:45:47AM STARTED THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME WAY OF MOVING TRAFFIC IN
9:45:50AM AND OUT AT A SLOWER RATE, BUT HAVE HOWARD OPEN TO SO TRAFFIC
9:45:59AM STILL COME IN AND OUT.
9:46:01AM BERN'S IS THERE.
9:46:03AM YOU CAN'T GET A RESERVATION AT BERN'S IF YOU KNEW GOD FOR AT
9:46:07AM LEAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.
9:46:08AM YOU KNOW WHY?
9:46:09AM THEY TREAT YOU RIGHT.
9:46:13AM GIVE YOU A GREAT MEAL AT A REASONABLE PRICE.
9:46:16AM WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
9:46:17AM OTHERS THAT ARE THERE.
9:46:20AM CICCIO'S OPERATION THAT MR. MICHELINI REPRESENTS AND COMES
9:46:27AM HERE AND GIVES ALL THESE AWARDS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT
9:46:28AM THEY DO SOMETHING SPECTACULAR FOR THE CITY.
9:46:29AM I'M NOT AGAINST THEM.
9:46:30AM BUT I GOT TO GET THIS DAMN PROJECT DONE.
9:46:32AM I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME SITTING HERE WAITING TO HEAR
9:46:38AM ALL THIS B.S. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BARBRA STREISAND.
9:46:42AM WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING HERE?
9:46:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:46:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN BACK TO
9:46:50AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:46:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:46:52AM YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES IN A DISTRICT
9:46:57AM THERE ARE TOUGH ISSUES AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
9:47:01AM POSITION.
9:47:03AM SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO IN FOREST HILLS, HAD AN ISSUE IN THE
9:47:08AM BABE ZAHARIAS WITH THE CURFEW.
9:47:13AM THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE ME OR TRUST ME
9:47:15AM BECAUSE OF MY POSITION AND HOW I WENT.
9:47:17AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:47:18AM THAT'S CERTAINLY PART OF PUBLIC OFFICE.
9:47:20AM I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, YOU'LL MAKE PEOPLE ANGRY.
9:47:23AM MIGHT AS WELL DO IT FOR WHAT YOU THINK IS THE RIGHT THING.
9:47:27AM ON THIS ISSUE, I'M GOING WITH CITY PROFESSIONALS ON IT.
9:47:33AM I'VE LISTENED TO EVERYBODY.
9:47:35AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED SOME FOLKS.
9:47:37AM I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE.
9:47:38AM CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS, BUT THAT'S THE HIGHEST
9:47:41AM AMOUNT OF DEFERENCE IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION I GIVE TO.
9:47:44AM ISSUES MENTIONED WITH BRISTOL AND WE CAN, IF NEED BE, ROLL
9:47:51AM THE TAPE ON THE DAY OF THE VOTE, THAT'S FINE.
9:47:53AM I REMEMBER THAT WAS VOTED ON BEFORE HELENE AND MILTON AND
9:47:59AM AGAIN A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.
9:48:01AM I WOULD SAY, THOUGH, IN DEFERENCE TO WHAT COUNCILMAN
9:48:04AM CLENDENIN SAID, IN DOING THIS, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY -- IT IS A
9:48:08AM CONTROVERSIAL PROJECT FOR SOME.
9:48:12AM THE NEED FOR CONTINUED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL AS
9:48:15AM ELECTED OFFICIAL ENGAGEMENT LIKE OBVIOUSLY IS HAPPENING
9:48:18AM RIGHT NOW IS OPEN AND OBVIOUS FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
9:48:21AM THAT'S WHY BRIEFINGS LIKE THIS ARE SO IMPORTANT SO THAT WE
9:48:25AM SEE ALL AVENUES ARE EXHAUSTED TO MITIGATE THE HARM THAT'S
9:48:29AM GOING TO COME FROM THIS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THE
9:48:32AM IMMEDIATE IMPACT.
9:48:33AM IT'S GOING TO BE TIME LIMITED.
9:48:35AM I SAY THIS WHEN I MEDIATE CASES.
9:48:37AM IN LIFE THERE ARE THINGS BLACK AND WHITE AND THEN A LOT OF
9:48:40AM GRAY.
9:48:40AM THIS IS ONE OF THE GRAYS.
9:48:42AM I OPTED FOR THE SIDE OF THE GRAY THAT I THINK SUPPORTS THE
9:48:44AM GREATER GOOD.
9:48:45AM I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO STAY THERE.
9:48:50AM FOR ME, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF POLITICS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
9:48:54AM FOR ME, I CAME TO MY CONCLUSION BASED ON AFTER HELENE AND
9:49:08AM MILTON AND LISTENING TO PROFESSIONALS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE
9:49:10AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:49:11AM I DID MAKE A PROMISE TO PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON HOW I
9:49:14AM WOULD VOTE.
9:49:15AM AGAIN, NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS.
9:49:18AM I ANNOUNCED I'M NOT RUNNING FOR MAYOR.
9:49:21AM I DID THAT FOR A REASON SO WHENEVER WE DEAL WITH ISSUES LIKE
9:49:24AM THIS, OH, HE'S POSITIONING HIMSELF.
9:49:26AM NO, NO, NO, NO.
9:49:28AM I'M JUST, AGAIN I OBJECTIVELY WENT WITH THE INFORMATION.
9:49:38AM IF THERE IS GREATER INFORMATION OUT THERE, PLEASE GIVE IT TO
9:49:42AM ME SO WE CAN CONSIDER.
9:49:43AM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
9:49:44AM I'M GOING WITH WHAT I OBJECTIVELY CONSIDER TO BE THE GREATER
9:49:47AM GOOD ON THIS.
9:49:48AM I HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY UNREASONABLE DELAYS ON THIS.
9:49:52AM AGAIN, IF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WANT INFORMATION, THINGS HAVE
9:49:55AM BEEN MENTIONED ON BRISTOL, ON ALTERNATIVE ROUTES TO MAKE
9:49:58AM SURE WE CONSIDER EVERYTHING, I'M ALL FOR THAT.
9:50:01AM I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.
9:50:02AM AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THIS IN THE MOST
9:50:06AM COLLABORATIVE, INCLUSIVE WAY WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS.
9:50:08AM I JUST DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT SERVES AS REAL BIG DELAY ON
9:50:14AM THIS.
9:50:15AM AGAIN, I SPEAK FOR LUIS VIERA.
9:50:19AM I MADE MY COMMITMENT ON THIS.
9:50:20AM I INTEND WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE GO THROUGH.
9:50:22AM I THINK IT IS THE GREATER GOOD AND IN MY OPINION THE RIGHT
9:50:25AM THING TO DO.
9:50:26AM THANK YOU.
9:50:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION I DIDN'T ASK.
9:50:31AM THIS GOES FOR SEVERAL OF THE PROJECTS IN THIS PRESENTATION.
9:50:34AM IT SAYS ESTIMATED PROJECT COMPLETION 2027.
9:50:37AM IS THAT FISCAL YEAR OR CALENDAR YEAR?
9:50:39AM AND WHAT QUARTER CAN WE EXPECT?
9:50:44AM IT IS A REALLY BIG YEAR.
9:50:45AM IF WE CAN NARROW IT DOWN.
9:50:47AM THAT IS A WHILE AWAY.
9:50:48AM QUARTER ONE OF '27 MIGHT BE A LITTLE CLOSER.
9:50:51AM I WOULD ASK THAT IN THE FUTURE IF YOU COULD -- EVEN IF IT IS
9:50:55AM NOT PERFECT, JUST A NICE WHETHER IT IS FISCAL YEAR AND WHAT
9:50:58AM DO WE EXPECT QUARTER-WISE BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE
9:51:01AM PUBLIC, THEY WANT THE PROJECT DONE BUT HAVING A LITTLE
9:51:06AM EXPECTATION AROUND IT IS HELPFUL.
9:51:09AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: APPRECIATE THAT SUGGESTION.
9:51:10AM WE TALKED ABOUT HOW TO BEST CAPTURE THE TIME FRAMES.
9:51:13AM WE DON'T WANT TO OVERPROMISE AND UNDER DELIVER.
9:51:21AM WE ARE WORKING ON A QUARTER TARGET VERSUS A YEAR TARGET.
9:51:25AM WE DON'T WANT CONFUSION BETWEEN FISCAL AND CALENDAR.
9:51:27AM APPRECIATE THAT SUGGESTION.
9:51:28AM WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT.
9:51:30AM I DO WANT TO ADD THAT EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE A LONG TIME
9:51:33AM FRAME, AS EACH SEGMENT IS CONSTRUCTED, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO
9:51:37AM MONTHS PER SEGMENT TO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY OF THE
9:51:39AM BUSINESSES QUICKLY, AS EACH SEGMENT IS CONSTRUCTED WE ARE
9:51:46AM SEEING THE PROGRESSIVE BENEFIT OF THE PROJECT.
9:51:48AM WE DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE VERY END TO SEE THE BENEFIT.
9:51:51AM EACH TIME WE GET A CONSTRUCTION SEGMENT DONE, WE'RE GETTING
9:51:54AM MORE BENEFIT AND MORE MITIGATION COMING IN.
9:51:56AM THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
9:51:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL BACK IT UP.
9:52:04AM IF THE TIMELINE GOES WITH WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING RIGHT NOW,
9:52:07AM IF EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY, WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO BEGIN THE
9:52:12AM PROJECT?
9:52:12AM LIKE BETWEEN ONE TO TWO QUARTERS, WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO
9:52:16AM BEGIN IF EVERYTHING GOES PERFECTLY?
9:52:19AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE HAVE EARLY WORK THAT WILL BE COMING UP.
9:52:22AM >> OUR TARGET FOR THE DESIGN IS 18 MONTHS.
9:52:25AM SO WE STARTED JANUARY, SO WE ARE SHOOTING FOR PROBABLY '26.
9:52:33AM SUMMER OF '26.
9:52:35AM DESIGN PHASE.
9:52:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHOVELS IN THE GROUND IN SUMMER OF '26.
9:52:41AM >> RIGHT.
9:52:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:52:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN
9:52:44AM CARLSON.
9:52:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
9:52:48AM ONE, LET'S START WITH BASICS ON CONTRACTS.
9:52:52AM CONTRACTS CAN BE AMENDED.
9:52:53AM CONTRACTS CAN BE ADDED TO.
9:52:55AM ADDENDUMS.
9:52:57AM I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A SINGLE CONTRACT THAT THE
9:53:01AM CITY OF TAMPA ENTERS INTO FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE VERY END
9:53:04AM THAT WE HAVEN'T RENEGOTIATED OR ADDED SOMETHING TO OR TAKEN
9:53:08AM SOMETHING AWAY.
9:53:10AM JUST A COMMON PART OF BUSINESS.
9:53:14AM LET'S TAKE THAT AS AN ASSUMPTION.
9:53:15AM SOMETHING CHARLIE MIRANDA SAID I WANTED TO ECHO DOWN ON.
9:53:19AM THE VERY FIRST TIME WE WERE BRIEFED ON THIS, I WAS ASSURED
9:53:23AM THAT THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE ACCESS, VERY, VERY FIRST
9:53:28AM BRIEFING, EARLY ON IN THIS PROJECT, THAT BUSINESSES ON SOUTH
9:53:31AM HOWARD WOULD ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS.
9:53:33AM NOW, AS THIS PROGRESSED, THAT CHANGED, BUT THE VERY, VERY
9:53:37AM FIRST THING I WAS ASSURED ALL BUSINESSES WOULD HAVE ACCESS,
9:53:40AM THEY WOULD NOT BE CUT OFF.
9:53:42AM ON SOMETHING YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THE PROJECT, MAYBE I DON'T
9:53:47AM UNDERSTAND HYDROLOGY EVEN THOUGH I STUDIED IT A COUPLE OF
9:53:51AM YEARS IN COLLEGE.
9:53:52AM UNTIL THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM IS CONNECTED TO AN OUTFALL, I DON'T
9:53:55AM SEE HOW IT CAN BE INCREMENTALLY HELPFUL.
9:53:58AM UNTIL THE PROJECT IS FULLY FLOWING, THE WATER IS GOING TO
9:54:01AM ACCUMULATE WHENEVER IT IS ACCUMULATING.
9:54:03AM IT'S GOT TO GO TO THE OUTFALL.
9:54:05AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE START AT THE OUTFALL.
9:54:07AM WE WORK NORTHWARD.
9:54:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S STARTING AT BAYSHORE.
9:54:11AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR.
9:54:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS A GOOD ANSWER.
9:54:14AM THANK YOU.
9:54:14AM I WAS LIKE, HOW DOES THAT WORK.
9:54:18AM I WAS GOING TO GO THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE ALL THE
9:54:23AM DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
9:54:24AM LASTLY, I JUST -- THIS IS PART OF THAT, AGAIN, PART OF THE
9:54:29AM FRUSTRATION AND I THINK IT IS THE AVERAGE CITIZEN'S
9:54:32AM FRUSTRATION WITH GOVERNMENT IS WHY NOT.
9:54:38AM WHY NOT, MAYBE IT WILL COST A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY, BUT AT
9:54:42AM LEAST, WHY CAN'T WE PUT IT -- MAYBE, MAYBE THE PLAN IS
9:54:47AM PERFECT.
9:54:48AM MAYBE THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE PERFECT PLAN.
9:54:50AM BUT WHY NOT EXPLORE, FULLY FLESH OUT ONE OR TWO OF THE OTHER
9:54:57AM OPTIONS SO WE CAN LOOK AT THIS, SO WE CAN LOOK AT EVERYTHING
9:55:03AM ON THE TABLE AT THE SAME TIME SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT
9:55:06AM THIS OPTION PROVIDES, WHAT THIS OPTION PROVIDES, HOW MUCH
9:55:12AM THIS COSTS, THIS IS HOW MUCH THIS COSTS.
9:55:14AM BECAUSE CLEARLY THE IMPACT -- IF IT COMES DOWN THAT
9:55:22AM EVERYBODY HAS TO SUCK IT UP, SO BE IT, SOMEBODY HAS TO SUCK
9:55:25AM IT UP, I THINK THERE ARE STILL UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
9:55:29AM I THINK THAT WAS MY POINT DURING THE DISCUSSION WHEN WE
9:55:31AM PASSED THE CONTRACT IS ENSURING AT LEAST THESE THINGS ARE
9:55:37AM FLUSHED OUT.
9:55:37AM THE DISCUSSIONS ARE MADE OR HAD, AND ALL OF THESE IDEAS ARE
9:55:41AM OUT THERE ON THE TABLE.
9:55:42AM EVERYTHING IS FULL SUNSHINE, WHETHER YOU ARE BERN'S STEAK
9:55:48AM HOUSE OR THE PERSON LIVING IN PARKLAND ESTATES WITH WATER
9:55:53AM LAPPING UP ON YOUR DOOR OR UP IN PALMA CEIA PINES, THAT THEY
9:55:57AM CAN REALLY SEE THAT FULL TRANSPARENCY THAT WE LOOKED AT THIS
9:56:00AM WAY, LOOKED AT THIS WAY, WE LOOKED AT THESE OPTIONS.
9:56:01AM WE LOOKED AT PUMPING, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THE BEST OPTION WE
9:56:12AM COULD COME UP WITH IS X, Y, AND Z.
9:56:14AM I THINK PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THERE'S -- THAT THOSE THINGS
9:56:18AM WEREN'T FULLY, AT LEAST IN THE PUBLIC, AT LEAST FROM MY
9:56:21AM VIEW, ARE NOT FULLY FLUSHED OUT.
9:56:24AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
9:56:25AM YOU HAVE HIT IT ON THE MARK.
9:56:27AM EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO PRESENT
9:56:30AM IN MAY.
9:56:31AM PART OF THE PROJECT FOR US HAS BEEN EVERYONE WANTS THE
9:56:36AM ANSWERS BEFORE WE HAVE GOTTEN STARTED.
9:56:38AM WE JUST GOT STARTED OFFICIALLY IN JANUARY.
9:56:40AM WE APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO GET STARTED.
9:56:43AM WE WANT TO BRING A SIMPLE COMPARISON OF ALL THE ALTERNATIVES
9:56:46AM WE'VE RECEIVED, THE ONES WE HAD ALREADY PLANNED TO LOOK AT
9:56:50AM AND SHOW HOW THOSE STACK UP IN TERMS OF COST, TIME FRAMES,
9:56:55AM IMPACTS -- CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS THAT ARE INCONVENIENT, TREE
9:57:00AM IMPACTS, THE WHOLE GAMUT OF THINGS THAT ARE TOUCHED WHEN WE
9:57:05AM BUILD SOMETHING AND SHOW VERY SIMPLY TO EVERYONE HOW THEY
9:57:08AM ARE FLESHED OUT AND WHAT LOOKS LIKE THE QUICKEST, MOST
9:57:13AM REASONABLE, FEASIBLE OPTION TO GO WITH.
9:57:15AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IN MAY.
9:57:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. DUNCAN.
9:57:18AM THAT WOULD EXACTLY MEET THE EXPECTATIONS AND MEET THE
9:57:22AM EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE DISCUSS DURING THE MEETING OF HAVING
9:57:24AM THAT DISCUSSION TOO.
9:57:25AM IF THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING AND THESE THINGS ARE STILL ON
9:57:28AM THE TABLE AND STILL DISCUSSING THOSE AND BRING THOSE TO US
9:57:31AM IN MAY, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.
9:57:33AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:57:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:57:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE STATEMENT WAS JUST MADE THAT WE JUST
9:57:39AM STARTED.
9:57:40AM IT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE WHAT WAS SAID TO US A FEW MONTHS AGO
9:57:44AM WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED WHEN YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, WILL ALL
9:57:48AM OPTIONS BE REVIEWED AND THE ANSWER WAS SOMETHING LIKE WE'RE
9:57:52AM -- THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO START BECAUSE WE NEED TO LOOK AT
9:57:54AM IT.
9:57:55AM WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IF WE'RE JUST STARTING AND NEED TO GO
9:57:58AM THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHY IS HOWARD ALREADY PICKED?
9:58:00AM WHY ONLY THREE OPTIONS?
9:58:03AM THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
9:58:04AM THEY ARE NOT DOING AN HONEST REVIEW OF IT.
9:58:07AM WE KNOW FROM PUBLIC RECORDS THAT THE REVIEWS DONE BEFORE,
9:58:09AM NOW THAT OTHER ENGINEERS OUTSIDE HAVE LOOKED, THOSE WERE NOT
9:58:12AM THOROUGH ANALYSES.
9:58:14AM NOW THE EXCUSE IS SIGNED AND SEALED AND ALL THIS.
9:58:18AM FOR SOME REASON, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT EITHER
9:58:18AM THE STAFF OR THE ADMINISTRATION ABSOLUTELY WANTS LIKE TOILET
9:58:18AM TO TAP.
9:58:26AM WE KNOW IN THE CASE OF TOILET TO TAP WE WERE PRESENTED
9:58:29AM MISINFORMATION.
9:58:29AM WE FINALLY KILLED IT THREE TIMES.
9:58:30AM IT'S NOT THAT WE SHOULD JUST BLANKET TRUST EVERYBODY ON
9:58:33AM SOMETHING.
9:58:34AM IF AN ADMINISTRATION WANTS SOMETHING FOR POLITICAL OR
9:58:37AM WHATEVER REASONS, THEY'LL PUSH FOR IT.
9:58:39AM IN THIS CASE, THE MAYOR STEPPED IN TO FORCE THE DEPARTMENT
9:58:42AM -- THE DEPARTMENT SAID NO THEY WERE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT ANY
9:58:46AM NEW OPTIONS.
9:58:47AM THEY SAID IT LAST WEEK.
9:58:48AM NOW THE MAYOR STEPPED IN TO FORCE THEM TO LOOK AT IT.
9:58:50AM IF THE MAYOR FORCES THEM TO LOOK AT NEW OPTIONS, THAT MEANS
9:58:53AM THE CONTRACT HAS TO BE CHANGED.
9:58:55AM IF THE MAYOR CAN CHANGE THE CONTRACT, WHY CAN'T WE?
9:58:57AM WE VOTED BEFORE THE CONTRACT WE WOULDN'T INCLUDE BRISTOL BUT
9:59:04AM SOMEHOW SQUEEZED IN.
9:59:06AM JUST LIKE ON FRANKLIN STREET, WE ORDERED THE RED LIGHT BE
9:59:09AM PULLED OUT AND SOMEHOW IT WAS PUT BACK IN AND THE CONTRACTOR
9:59:11AM HAD TO TAKE IT OUT.
9:59:13AM IF WE ARE DEALING WITH AN ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF WORKING
9:59:20AM WITH US AS WELL, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
9:59:22AM BY THE WAY, MOST OF THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT PEOPLE WORKED
9:59:30AM WELL ON OTHER PROJECTS.
9:59:30AM THE PROBLEM IS IN LEADERSHIP, BOUND AND DETERMINED TO GET
9:59:33AM THIS DONE.
9:59:33AM THE OTHER ENGINEERS AND EXPERTS THAT LOOKED AT THIS OUTSIDE
9:59:36AM AND FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE CALLED EXPERTS ALL AROUND
9:59:39AM THE COUNTRY AND SOME AROUND THE WORLD, THEY NOT ONLY LAUGH
9:59:43AM AT THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS SO INCOMPLETE AND NOT
9:59:46AM SCIENTIFIC, BUT THEY ALSO LAUGH BECAUSE PUTTING CULVERTS
9:59:49AM DOWN A STREET IS LIKE 50-YEAR-OLD TECHNOLOGY.
9:59:51AM CITIES DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
9:59:53AM IT'S NOT A REASONABLE THING THAT THE CITY SHOULD DO.
9:59:56AM SOMEHOW THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SOLD US ON AN OLD IDEA, A BAD
9:59:59AM IDEA THAT WILL HARM THE COMMUNITY IN LOTS OF WAYS, INCLUDING
10:00:03AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF AND IS NOT GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE IN
10:00:05AM A MAJOR STORM.
10:00:07AM IN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, WE'LL BE SITTING HERE AFTER SPENDING
10:00:09AM $130 MILLION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL FLOOD AGAIN AND THEY
10:00:11AM WILL COME TO US AND ASK US WHY.
10:00:13AM THE REASON WHY I'M PUSHING RIGHT NOW IS NOT POLITICAL
10:00:16AM REASONS.
10:00:16AM IT'S BECAUSE IT IS MY DISTRICT.
10:00:18AM I HAVE A DUTY TO MAKE SURE THE FOLKS DON'T GET FLOODED.
10:00:21AM NO SHORT-TERM SOLUTION FOR THEM.
10:00:23AM LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS NOT GOING TO PREVENT THEM FROM BEING
10:00:26AM FLOODED IN A HURRICANE.
10:00:27AM LET'S LOOK AT NOT ONLY NEW ROUTES, BUT BETTER, MODERN
10:00:31AM TECHNOLOGY TO FIX THIS.
10:00:32AM THANK YOU.
10:00:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS WILL BE MY LAST ON THIS SUBJECT
10:00:38AM MATTER.
10:00:38AM I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY, BUT I
10:00:43AM CAN TELL YOU MORE THAN YESTERDAY.
10:00:46AM SOME 30 YEARS AGO, BACK IN THE MID '90s, MAYOR GRECO ASKED
10:00:51AM ME TO GO TO THE OFFICE AND I THINK MAYOR GRECO STILL HERE,
10:00:55AM SO AM I.
10:00:56AM BOTH ON THIS SIDE OF THE ASPHALT STILL.
10:00:59AM FERNANDO NORIEGA WHO WAS THERE, NO LONGER HERE.
10:01:03AM THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT FLOODING, ALL OF SOUTH TAMPA.
10:01:12AM I REMEMBER THE FIGURE, THIS IS 30 YEARS AGO, OVER $3
10:01:16AM BILLION.
10:01:18AM YOU KNOW WHY?
10:01:18AM YOU HAD TO GO NORTH LIKE 20 SOME MILES, 30 MILES WITH A
10:01:24AM PIPE.
10:01:25AM WATER DOESN'T TRAVEL VERY WELL GOING NORTH.
10:01:27AM IT TRAVELS REAL EASY GOING SOUTH.
10:01:29AM HAD TO PUMP IT UP WITH MOTORS FROM ELECTRICITY, BUILD A
10:01:35AM RESERVOIR IN FOUR, FIVE HUNDRED ACRE PLACE THAT YOU HAD TO
10:01:40AM BUY.
10:01:41AM SIX, SEVEN BILLION GALLONS OF WATER, BRING THE WATER UP, AND
10:01:45AM WE WEREN'T EVEN SURE WE COULD FIX IT THEN.
10:01:48AM YOU KNOW WHY?
10:01:48AM BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WATER IS GOING TO FALL.
10:01:53AM WE KEEP ABUSING NATURE AND THEY THINK IT'S A JOKE, SOMETHING
10:01:59AM THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN KENTUCKY
10:02:02AM AND TENNESSEE, WEST VIRGINIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, JUST RECENTLY,
10:02:06AM A WEEK AGO.
10:02:08AM LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN CALIFORNIA, NOT ONLY GET FIRE, THEY
10:02:13AM HAD MUD SLIDES.
10:02:14AM WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT DOING
10:02:21AM THE RIGHT THING?
10:02:22AM I'M REALLY IN AWE ABOUT THIS.
10:02:26AM I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
10:02:28AM IF YOU DON'T DRIVE DOWN THE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, YOU SEE
10:02:31AM PIPES ABOUT 16, 20 INCHES, ABOUT 15, 20, 30 OF THEM.
10:02:36AM THAT'S WHERE THE WATER DRAINS INTO THE BAY.
10:02:39AM I'M NOT REAL SMART, AND I DON'T CLAIM TO BE A GENIUS, BUT
10:02:45AM I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING, THE VOLUME OF WATER BY WEIGHT
10:02:49AM COMING IN VERSUS THE VOLUME OF WATER GOING OUT, IT'S 1%
10:02:54AM VERSUS 100% COMING IN.
10:02:56AM WHEN THE VOLUME OF WATER HITS THAT WATER WHEN IT IS HIGH
10:02:59AM TIDE, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE WATER IS GOING?
10:03:02AM DO YOU THINK IT WILL CONTINUE TO GO OUT?
10:03:04AM MAYBE THIS COUNCIL OR THIS MAYOR, SOMEBODY CAN TELL ME THERE
10:03:07AM ARE OTHER REASONS YOU CAN TAKE THE WATER.
10:03:11AM TELL ME WHERE IT IS GOING IF WATER NATURALLY DRAINS SOUTH.
10:03:15AM DOESN'T DRAIN NORTH.
10:03:17AM SO IF THAT VOLUME OF WATER IS A HUNDRED TIMES MORE THAN IT
10:03:20AM IS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF GALLONS
10:03:23AM VERSUS THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS GOING OUT, WHEN IT HITS, THE
10:03:27AM WATER WILL COME RIGHT BACK WHERE IT CAME FROM.
10:03:29AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:03:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:03:34AM WHAT IS THE NEXT PROJECT?
10:03:36AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: NEXT UP WE HAVE CHIEF TRIPP TO TALK ABOUT
10:03:43AM FIRE STATION 24 AND OUR CAD REPRESENTATIVE HERE TO SUPPORT
10:03:48AM HER AS NEEDED.
10:03:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:03:52AM HOW ARE YOU?
10:03:53AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:03:56AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
10:03:57AM HOPE YOU ARE HAVING A BLESSED, THANKFUL THURSDAY.
10:04:00AM I'LL TALK ABOUT THE TFR, STATION 24.
10:04:05AM IT'S BEEN ONGOING.
10:04:06AM WE STARTED BACK IN '21 LOOKING FOR PROPERTY AND WE DID HAVE
10:04:09AM SOME CITY PROPERTY UP AT GRECO AREA.
10:04:12AM THIS IS KIND OF LIKE ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF GRECO, RIGHT
10:04:15AM OFF OF THE RECREATION CENTER, THE SOUTHERN PART RIGHT OFF OF
10:04:19AM WHITE WAY.
10:04:19AM I GUESS THROUGH THE MEASUREMENTS OF TWO PARCELS PUT
10:04:22AM TOGETHER, RIGHT AT THREE ACRES.
10:04:24AM SO WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT A 1100 SQUARE FOOT FIRE STATION
10:04:30AM THERE.
10:04:30AM AS I GO BACK TO '21 AND '22 WHEN WE ADDED ANOTHER RESOURCE
10:04:34AM TO STATION 13 TO HELP OUT PER COUNCILMAN VIERA REQUEST TO
10:04:40AM HELP OUT -- VERY EXTREME AND BASICALLY UNSAFE FOR A LOT OF
10:04:45AM THE FIREFIGHTERS TO FIGHT.
10:04:47AM WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO THE STATION.
10:04:50AM NOW WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR SOME PROPERTY TO HOUSE THEM.
10:04:53AM WE'VE LOCATED THIS POSITION.
10:04:57AM NEXT SLIDE.
10:05:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.
10:05:21AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THANK YOU.
10:05:21AM ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SOME BRIEF INFORMATION TALKING
10:05:26AM ABOUT WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
10:05:27AM 1100 SQUARE FOOT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT AT THAT
10:05:32AM LOCATION.
10:05:33AM THAT IS THE PLAN.
10:05:34AM AND BASICALLY TO HELP WITH THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF IT.
10:05:36AM WE HAVE NOT STARTED THE DESIGN YET.
10:05:41AM WE HAVEN'T HAD THE KICKOFF MEETING AND THAT'S FORTHCOMING
10:05:43AM AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
10:05:45AM THIS IS THE LOCATION.
10:05:51AM AS I STATED, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRECO COMPLEX AREA AND LIKE
10:05:55AM I SAID, IT IS JUST SOUTHWEST OF THAT LOCATION, AND WE ARE
10:06:01AM LOOKING TO TAKE THOSE PARCELS THAT BELONG TO THE CITY AND
10:06:04AM COMBINE THEM TOGETHER.
10:06:05AM ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO HELP OUT WITH THE RESOURCES,
10:06:10AM THE CALL VOLUME THAT'S UP IN THAT NORTH TAMPA AREA TO KIND
10:06:13AM OF DECREASE THE WORKLOAD FOR THE ONE APPARATUS THAT'S IN
10:06:17AM THAT AREA.
10:06:18AM OF COURSE, DEFINITELY GOING TO HELP OUT WITH THE GROWTH OF
10:06:21AM THE CITY.
10:06:22AM THE COST THAT THEY HAVE, OF COURSE, IT'S BEEN PROJECTED AT
10:06:28AM 24 MILLION AND, OF COURSE, DEFINITELY GOING TO DO EVERYTHING
10:06:31AM WE CAN TO DECREASE THAT AMOUNT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
10:06:34AM AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME.
10:06:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
10:06:45AM LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
10:06:45AM THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING AND ALSO COUNCILMAN VIERA, WHO
10:06:51AM HAS BEEN FIGHTING AND PUSHING FOR THIS AND THE SUPPORT OF
10:06:53AM COUNCIL FOR GETTING THIS DONE BECAUSE IT'S SO NEEDED.
10:06:57AM WE HEAR FROM THE UNION.
10:06:58AM WE HEAR FROM YOUR TEAM.
10:07:00AM WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.
10:07:01AM AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU PUBLICLY.
10:07:05AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WERE FIRST.
10:07:06AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND MIRANDA.
10:07:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:07:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:11AM YES, I AGREE WITH -- THANKS.
10:07:13AM I REMEMBER CHIEF TRIPP, WHEN DID YOU FIRST COME IN?
10:07:18AM '21.
10:07:19AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: OFFICIALLY SWORN IN JUNE OF '21.
10:07:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WAS STATION 25.
10:07:25AM THE ISSUES AT STATION 13, IT WAS FUNNY, I LAUGH ABOUT THIS.
10:07:29AM I REMEMBER WHEN YOU ALLOWED ME TO PRETTY MUCH SPEND THE
10:07:31AM NIGHT AT STATION 13.
10:07:34AM THAT WAS BEYOND KIND OF YOU.
10:07:36AM AS AN ATTORNEY I LOOK BACK AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, COOL.
10:07:40AM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
10:07:41AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:07:42AM I WAS LAUGHING ABOUT THAT WITH A FIREFIGHTER A COUPLE OF
10:07:46AM WEEKS AGO.
10:07:46AM THIS CONTINUES TO BE URGENT.
10:07:49AM WE GOT THE SOLID DOWN PAYMENT THAT YOU FOUGHT FOR WHEN YOU
10:07:51AM GOT IN ON STATION 25, WHICH IS GREAT, WHICH REALLY HELPS OUT
10:07:55AM THE FOLKS OVER AT STATION 13.
10:07:57AM I KNOW WE'RE SEEING IMPROVED NUMBERS.
10:07:59AM BEFORE THAT, AS YOU KNOW, STATION 13 WAS ONE OUT OF 23
10:08:02AM STATIONS, TOOK UP ONE OUT OF SEVEN CALLS.
10:08:05AM 54th BUSIEST STATION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND
10:08:08AM WE'RE BUILDING BETTER ON THAT, WHICH IS GREAT.
10:08:11AM STATION 25 OR 24, EXCUSE ME, IS GOING TO BE FINISHING THAT,
10:08:15AM WHICH IS REALLY GOOD.
10:08:16AM LET ME ASK YOU IF I MAY, CHIEF, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT
10:08:20AM TIMELINE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU FEEL THE SENSE OF URGENCY
10:08:24AM OBVIOUSLY AS THE FIRE CHIEF MORE THAN ANYONE AND WE WERE ALL
10:08:28AM FRUSTRATED LOOKING AT THAT PROPOSED TIMELINE.
10:08:30AM HAS THERE BEEN ANY AMENDMENT TO THAT TIMELINE, MA'AM, ON
10:08:33AM EITHER GROUND BREAKING OR RIBBON CUTTING?
10:08:36AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: SO PRIOR TO THE PowerPoint, THE INFORMATION
10:08:43AM I WAS GIVEN AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE, IT KIND OF STARTED OFF
10:08:48AM WITH THE TIMELINE STARTING IN MARCH OF '26 AND FINISHING IN
10:08:54AM '27.
10:08:56AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CHANGED ANY.
10:09:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO CAN ANSWER THAT?
10:09:07AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CHANGE.
10:09:09AM I WANT TO CLARIFY, THERE WAS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING --
10:09:13AM APOLOGIZE ON OUR SIDE FOR THAT -- THAT THE DESIGN WAS
10:09:17AM APPROVED IN '22 OR '23.
10:09:21AM THAT WAS APPROVING THE FUNDING FOR THE PROCESS TO START FOR
10:09:23AM THE DESIGN.
10:09:25AM SO WE APOLOGIZE IF THERE WAS MISCOMMUNICATION ON WHAT THAT
10:09:28AM REALLY MEANT, WHAT THAT PHRASE MEANT.
10:09:30AM BUT WE'RE ON TRACK AS OF TODAY, LIKE WE SAID.
10:09:35AM SHE IS ASSISTING OUR FIRE CHIEF IN TERMS OF CONTRACT
10:09:42AM ADMINISTRATION SIDE OF THINGS.
10:09:43AM AS FAR AS I KNOW, AS FAR AS I'VE TALKED RECENTLY, WE'RE
10:09:46AM STILL ON TRACK.
10:09:47AM SARAH, IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN.
10:09:49AM YOU HAVE THE ABSOLUTE LATEST DETAILS.
10:09:52AM >> SARAH RODRIGUEZ FROM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
10:09:54AM WE'RE STILL ON TRACK.
10:09:56AM WE WILL HAVE A BETTER AND MORE DEFINITE SCHEDULE ONCE WE
10:10:00AM HAVE THE KICKOFF MEETING FOR THE DESIGN.
10:10:02AM WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION LATER ON.
10:10:08AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I SEE THEY HAVE A PROJECT COMPLETION OF
10:10:11AM FEBRUARY '28.
10:10:15AM >> FISCAL YEAR.
10:10:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S FUNNY, I'LL SAY IT, AS THE FIRE CHIEF,
10:10:22AM YOU WANT TO MOVE WITH VIGOR AND MAYBE -- I'LL JUST SAY WHAT
10:10:28AM I THINK YOU'RE THINKING, WHICH IS FRUSTRATION.
10:10:30AM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
10:10:32AM YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.
10:10:34AM I'LL JUST SAY WHICH IS FRUSTRATION, WHICH IS AS I RECALL, WE
10:10:40AM DEALT WITH THIS IN THE 2023 BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023, I
10:10:44AM THINK FUNDING DESIGN.
10:10:45AM AND THEN IN '24 WE STARTED FUNDING, A YEAR AGO, WE STARTED
10:10:50AM WITH THE BONDING THAT WOULD FUND THIS.
10:10:52AM SO TO HAVE THIS COMPLETED IN '28 THERE IS A LOT OF
10:10:59AM FRUSTRATION ON THAT, TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED IN '28 AND TO
10:11:02AM HAVE GROUND BREAKING IN MARCH OF 2026.
10:11:05AM SO OUR MESSAGE IS TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO SPEED THAT
10:11:10AM ALONG.
10:11:10AM AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE ALL TALKING AMONG FRIENDS HERE ON THE
10:11:14AM PURPOSE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS SORELY AND BADLY
10:11:19AM NEEDED IN NORTH TAMPA.
10:11:21AM IT REPRESENTS, I THINK, THE FIRST PROJECT, LIKE I SAID, WHEN
10:11:23AM CHIEF TRIPP GOT IN HERE, THAT SHE STARTED WORKING ON AND
10:11:28AM THAT COMPLETES THIS.
10:11:29AM TO HAVE IT FINISHED IN '28 FOR ME AND I DON'T SPEAK FOR ALL
10:11:32AM COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT THAT'S JUST WAY TOO OUT THERE.
10:11:35AM AND TO EVEN HAVE A GROUND BREAKING IN MARCH OF '26, I WOULD
10:11:39AM LOVE TO SEE IT SOMETIME THIS YEAR.
10:11:41AM I KNOW THIS YEAR IS GOING BY FAST, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE
10:11:45AM THAT JUST BECAUSE OF, AGAIN, THE SENSE OF URGENCY WE ALL
10:11:49AM HAVE, INCLUDING CHIEF TRIPP.
10:11:51AM YES, MA'AM.
10:11:51AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: COUNCILMAN, WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
10:11:54AM THE PROJECT IS ON THE MOST EXPEDITED SCHEDULE THAT IS
10:11:58AM POSSIBLE.
10:11:59AM WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE MORE SPECIFIC DETAILS ON THAT,
10:12:04AM BUT WE HAVE MET RECENTLY.
10:12:06AM WE'VE HEARD YOU PREVIOUSLY, AND WE'VE EXAMINED THAT SCHEDULE
10:12:10AM NOW THAT WE HAVE THE DESIGN TEAM ON BOARD TO START, WHICH
10:12:13AM THEY HAVE STARTED.
10:12:14AM SO THERE IS SOME FLOAT IN THE SCHEDULE AND WE WILL BE
10:12:17AM PINCHING DOWN ON THAT FLOAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
10:12:19AM THIS IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR US.
10:12:22AM WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH GETTING THIS
10:12:25AM DONE.
10:12:26AM WE'RE COMMITTED TO YOU TO DO THIS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND
10:12:29AM WE'LL STAY ON THAT TRACK ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
10:12:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
10:12:33AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:12:34AM A COUPLE OF THINGS, BY MAKING THAT MOTION TO LOOK AT
10:12:36AM OCTOBER/NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR, I THINK, AND AGAIN, I'M
10:12:39AM CERTAINLY NOT IN THE PROFESSIONAL POSITION.
10:12:41AM I'M JUST AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THIS CAPACITY, WE CAN SHAVE
10:12:46AM SOME TIME OFF.
10:12:47AM THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
10:12:48AM I'M NOT LOOKING AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
10:12:52AM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
10:12:53AM I'M NOT HERE TO DO WHATEVER TESTIMONY, IMPEACHMENT ON
10:12:59AM ANYBODY.
10:12:59AM I WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE AND
10:13:02AM EXPEDITE THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
10:13:04AM ONE OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION, LAST WEEK WE HAD A BIG
10:13:08AM MOVEMENT FORWARD ON THE FLEET MAINTENANCE.
10:13:11AM IF WE CAN FINISH BY THE END OF OUR TERM HERE STATION 24 AND
10:13:16AM GET REAL MOVEMENT ON FLEET MAINTENANCE THAT WILL OPEN UP
10:13:20AM STATION 9 IN WEST TAMPA TO FURTHER EXPAND SERVICE TO THAT
10:13:23AM GROWING COMMUNITY, THAT IS FINISHING OFF WITH A BANG AND A
10:13:27AM BIG WIN FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
10:13:30AM AGAIN, I LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE BECAUSE THERE IS A
10:13:33AM LOT OF POSITIVE, BUT WE GOT TO GET IT MOVING THERE.
10:13:37AM WHEN I SAY HUSTLE, I DON'T MEAN THAT ANYBODY IS NOT HUSTLING
10:13:41AM BUT CONTINUE TO HUSTLE TO GET IT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS A
10:13:44AM TALL ORDER.
10:13:45AM FLEET MAINTENANCE IN '24 BY THE END, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO
10:13:48AM IT.
10:13:49AM AGAIN, I'M HERE TO PROVIDE A WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND TO
10:13:53AM SUPPORT YOU ALL IN WHAT YOU DO BUT TO MAKE SURE WE MOVE
10:13:55AM FORWARD, CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH VIGOR.
10:13:57AM AGAIN, I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE PAST.
10:13:59AM LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH VIGOR IN THE FUTURE.
10:14:01AM THAT'S MY MESSAGE.
10:14:02AM THANK YOU.
10:14:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK, CLENDENIN.
10:14:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:14:09AM YOU ARE A LOT NICER THAN I'M GOING TO BE BECAUSE THIS IS
10:14:11AM CLEARLY NOT A HIGH PRIORITY.
10:14:13AM A HIGH PRIORITY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT TAKES THREE YEARS.
10:14:17AM THAT'S DISINGENUOUS TO SAY.
10:14:21AM IF THIS WAS A HIGH PRIORITY, WE WOULD HAVE STARTED IT IN
10:14:24AM 2024 WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE STARTED AND IT WASN'T.
10:14:27AM WE'RE KEEPING HAVING TO FIGHT FOR THIS.
10:14:29AM THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR THREE MORE YEARS.
10:14:31AM JUST ISN'T.
10:14:32AM IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
10:14:33AM I WOULD PUT MORE MONEY TOWARD THIS TO EXPEDITE IT THAN I
10:14:36AM WOULD PUT TOWARD ANY OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT, INCLUDING
10:14:40AM THE ONE THAT'S ABOUT TO COME NEXT.
10:14:45AM WHAT UPSETS ME IS THAT WHEN I JUST DID MY RIDE-ALONG FOR
10:14:49AM STATION ONE, CHIEF TRIPP AND I TALKED ABOUT THE KICKOFF
10:14:53AM BEING I BELIEVE THIS WEEK.
10:14:56AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES.
10:14:57AM ACTUALLY IT WAS LAST WEEK.
10:14:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT HAPPENED?
10:14:59AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES WAS SICK AND IT WAS
10:15:02AM POSTPONED.
10:15:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S JUST NOT OKAY.
10:15:07AM WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ONE INDIVIDUAL
10:15:12AM PERSON.
10:15:13AM I AM NOT OKAY WITH THAT.
10:15:15AM AGAIN, IF IT WAS A HIGH PRIORITY, WE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT
10:15:18AM KICKOFF MEETING THIS WEEK, LAST WEEK, BECAUSE I REMEMBER
10:15:22AM THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE VERY EXCITED TO
10:15:24AM SHARE WITH ME WHEN I VISITED STATION ONE.
10:15:27AM I AM UPSET BECAUSE THIS IS NOT MOVING IN THE DIRECTION IT
10:15:33AM SHOULD WITH THE SPEED IT IS.
10:15:34AM I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA MOTIONED FOR MONTHLY UPDATES
10:15:40AM ON THIS.
10:15:40AM SO I EXPECT THAT WE'LL BE MUCH FURTHER ALONG AT THE NEXT
10:15:44AM MONTHLY UPDATE.
10:15:47AM I DO NOT SEE THIS AS THE HIGH PRIORITY THAT IT WAS CALLED.
10:15:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN, CARLSON.
10:15:54AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, IT IS DEFINITELY A HIGH
10:15:57AM PRIORITY ON MY SIDE.
10:15:58AM WHATEVER I CAN --
10:16:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.
10:16:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:16:04AM HONESTLY, I AGREE.
10:16:05AM I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION ON THIS.
10:16:07AM I KNOW NOBODY WANTS THEIR EQUIPMENT AND NOBODY WANTS THEIR
10:16:11AM FACILITIES AND NOBODY WANTS EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT MORE
10:16:13AM THAN THE CHIEF DOES FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT.
10:16:18AM I KNOW BEING A MANAGER IN GOVERNMENT, IT'S FRUSTRATING
10:16:22AM DEALING WITH SOME OF THE BUREAUCRACY AND HOW SLOW SOME
10:16:26AM THINGS MOVE.
10:16:27AM I EXPRESSED THE FRUSTRATION LAST WEEK ABOUT AN ISSUE AND I
10:16:30AM THINK YOU HEAR IT TODAY.
10:16:31AM WE ARE NOW, THIS COUNCIL IS 50% THROUGH OUR TERM.
10:16:36AM COUNCILMAN VIERA JUST SAID, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DEADLINES,
10:16:41AM HOPING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS BECAUSE
10:16:43AM WE KNOW IN TWO YEARS OUR CONTINUATION, SOME OF US WILL BE
10:16:46AM HERE AND SOME OF US WON'T.
10:16:47AM WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF DONE FOR THE
10:16:50AM COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITIZENS AND FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND FOR
10:16:53AM THE PEOPLE OUT THERE FIGHTING FOR OUR SAFETY, BOTH FIRE AND
10:16:58AM POLICE AND WASTEWATER AND FRESHWATER AND PICKING UP -- WE'RE
10:17:02AM TRYING TO FIGHT FOR EVERYBODY.
10:17:04AM I HAVE A SUGGESTION.
10:17:06AM THIS ISN'T FOR YOU, MS. TRIPP BUT THIS IS FOR MS. DUNCAN AND
10:17:09AM ADRI AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS A BUY IN THIS ISSUE.
10:17:15AM I THINK SOME OF THIS IS MESSAGING AND HOW WE MARKET BECAUSE
10:17:18AM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF $24
10:17:20AM MILLION, THAT 24, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, THAT $24
10:17:24AM MILLION IS NOT JUST THE CONSTRUCTION IS OF THE BUILDING.
10:17:27AM THAT'S BUILDING THE BUILDING OUT AS A FIRE STATION AND EVEN
10:17:32AM INCLUDES EQUIPMENT?
10:17:34AM >> YES.
10:17:34AM I BELIEVE -- AND EVERYTHING.
10:17:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
10:17:38AM I THINK IN ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, COMING AGAIN AS SOMEBODY
10:17:41AM ONLY BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS BUT I'M STARTING TO SEE
10:17:44AM THESE THINGS, WHEN WE'RE SELLING THESE PROJECTS AND TALKING
10:17:48AM ABOUT THIS, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE DO A BETTER JOB
10:17:51AM OF EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, COST -- OTHERWISE IT LOOKS
10:17:56AM LIKE WE'RE SPENDING $2500 A SQUARE FOOT TO BUILD THIS
10:17:59AM BUILDING.
10:17:59AM PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHAT ARE WE BUILDING, A MARBLE TAJ MAHAL?
10:18:03AM I THINK IF WE'RE ABLE TO DESIGN, COST, CONSTRUCTION COST,
10:18:08AM BUILD-OUT COST, I THINK IF WE BROKE THOSE THINGS DOWN FOR
10:18:11AM EVERY SINGLE PROJECT, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR US TO
10:18:15AM UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS AND MAYBE MAKE THINGS SEEM MORE
10:18:19AM REASONABLE.
10:18:20AM I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES -- I GET WEIRD CALLS AND
10:18:26AM E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE.
10:18:27AM WHY ARE WE SPENDING $24 MILLION TO BUILD A FIRE STATION, XYZ
10:18:32AM CITY SOMEPLACE ELSE ONLY SPENT $6 MILLION AND I GET A
10:18:36AM PICTURE OF A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND I HAVE TO GO BACK AND
10:18:39AM EXPLAIN TO THEM, THIS IS THE COMPLETE BUILD-OUT COST.
10:18:42AM THIS ISN'T JUST THE COST OF THE MORTAR, CEMENT, DOORS AND
10:18:46AM ALL THAT.
10:18:46AM I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB AS WE PREP THESE
10:18:50AM THINGS JUST FOR THE SALE OF THE PROJECTS AND FOR THE PUBLIC
10:18:54AM UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH TAXPAYER MONEY WE'RE SPENDING AND
10:18:56AM WHAT WE'RE SPENDING IT ON.
10:18:57AM I THINK IT IS EASIER EVEN FOR THE SEVEN OF US TO UNDERSTAND,
10:19:01AM TOO, TO REALLY DIGEST WHAT THOSE DOLLAR FIGURES MEAN.
10:19:05AM AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S EASY IN THE COURSE OF GOVERNMENT TO
10:19:12AM ACCEPT THE SLOW PACES.
10:19:15AM I SAID IT LAST WEEK, SOME OF THE STUFF WE'VE JUST GOT TO GET
10:19:18AM DONE.
10:19:19AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, BUT ON SOME OF
10:19:22AM THESE HIGH PRIORITY, YOU'VE GOT TO DO THAT SHOT TO THE MOON
10:19:29AM PROJECT.
10:19:29AM WE'RE GOING TO BUCKLE DOWN AND SAY WE'LL HIT THE MOON AND
10:19:33AM SEE HOW WE CAN SHAVE SOME TIME OFF OF THESE THINGS AND HOW
10:19:36AM WE CAN PRIORITIZE IT AND GET THESE PROJECTS THROUGH.
10:19:39AM I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN
10:19:42AM FINDING THIS PROPERTY AT THE GRECO PROPERTY.
10:19:44AM IT'S NOT PERFECT.
10:19:45AM THE CITY IS ALL THAT WAY.
10:19:48AM WITH THE STADIUM CONSTRUCTION UP THERE AND OTHER THINGS
10:19:50AM HAPPENING IN THAT AREA, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.
10:19:53AM IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE CITY AND SAFETY.
10:19:55AM SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR LITTLE VERSION OF THE FIRE
10:20:01AM STATION PROJECT OF HOW WE CAN CUT THIS PROJECT TIMELINE.
10:20:04AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I THINK IT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION, IF YOU
10:20:07AM DON'T MIND ME ANSWERING REAL QUICK.
10:20:09AM ASKED FOR MONTHLY UPDATES, THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
10:20:13AM DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS SARAH RODRIGUEZ, BY THE WAY, IS OUR
10:20:16AM MANAGER.
10:20:17AM THAT'S WHY I WANTED YOU TO SEE HER A LITTLE BIT MORE.
10:20:19AM WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH CHEEP TRIPP ON THE
10:20:22AM MONTHLY UPDATES.
10:20:23AM SO SHE AND WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST
10:20:27AM UPDATE THE ARCHITECT TEAM THAT WE HAVE.
10:20:30AM WE'RE SUPPORTING CHIEF TRIPP WITH HIRING HER PROJECT
10:20:33AM MANAGER.
10:20:33AM THIS IS HER PROJECT.
10:20:35AM SHE NEEDS TO HAVE STAFF THAT SHE CAN DELEGATE TO TO MAKE
10:20:40AM SURE THE PROJECT IS MOVING ALONG QUICKLY.
10:20:42AM WE SHARE THAT WITH YOU IN THE FIRST MEETING AND ALSO OUR
10:20:45AM SCHEDULE AND WHY THAT SCHEDULE IS WHAT IT IS AND HOW WE
10:20:49AM ANTICIPATE TRYING TO CRANK IT DOWN AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AS
10:20:52AM WELL AS HOW THOSE COSTS ARE SHARED AMONGST THE DIFFERENT
10:20:56AM COMPONENTS OF THE FIRE STATION.
10:20:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE YOU ALL COULD HAVE A SIT-DOWN
10:21:03AM MEETING AMONGST THE VESTED PARTIES, BETWEEN YOURSELF AND THE
10:21:07AM CHIEF AND ANYBODY THAT HAS A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE AND SAY,
10:21:11AM OKAY, LOOK AT IT, AS, OKAY, THIS IS A PRIORITY PROJECT.
10:21:16AM WHERE CAN WE CUT THIS TIMELINE DOWN?
10:21:18AM MAYBE YOU ALL NEED TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF SPIT-BALL MEETING TO
10:21:23AM PRIORITIZE.
10:21:24AM MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP.
10:21:26AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE ALREADY IDENTIFIED MANY OF THE FLOAT
10:21:29AM OPPORTUNITIES.
10:21:29AM SO AS WE PROGRESS, WE'LL BE LOOKING HOW TO MINIMIZE THAT
10:21:34AM FLOAT.
10:21:34AM FLOAT MEANING IT'S SORT OF TIME BUILT INTO THE SCHEDULE
10:21:38AM ANTICIPATING UNKNOWNS.
10:21:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW SOME OF IT IS STAFFING.
10:21:43AM WE'RE RUNNING ON A LEAN STAFF.
10:21:45AM EVERYBODY'S WORKLOAD -- FOR PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS, YOU
10:21:49AM ALL DON'T REALIZE HOW OVERWORKED OUR STAFF IS.
10:21:52AM EVERYBODY'S PORTFOLIO IS JUST CRAZY.
10:21:56AM IT'S FUNNY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR BUDGET MEETINGS,
10:21:59AM EVERYBODY'S PORTFOLIO, THEY ARE OVERBURDENED.
10:22:03AM PEOPLE ARE DOING TWO OR THREE JOBS.
10:22:06AM I GET THAT.
10:22:07AM SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:22:08AM ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE IF WE COULD
10:22:11AM CUT SOME OF THE TIME DOWN.
10:22:12AM THANK YOU.
10:22:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:22:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S OKAY.
10:22:26AM KIND OF AGREE WITH FOLKS UP HERE IN TERMS OF TIMELINES.
10:22:31AM IT SEEMS TO LOSE THE MOMENTUM.
10:22:33AM THE ONE THING FOUGHT FOR UP HERE IS FIRE STATIONS.
10:22:37AM SO IT JUST KIND OF SURPRISES ME THAT THE TIMELINE IS THE WAY
10:22:42AM THAT IT IS.
10:22:44AM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN EXPEDITE IT, BUT INITIALLY WHEN IT
10:22:47AM FIRST CAME OUT, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE 26-27 AND NOW
10:22:51AM IT SEEMS TO BE ROLLING INTO 28.
10:22:53AM I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENS.
10:22:56AM HAPPENS EVEN WITH SMALLER PROJECTS.
10:22:58AM WE PAY FOR THE TWO HOUSES.
10:23:00AM JOHNSON HOUSES AND THOSE PROJECTS STILL AREN'T STARTED.
10:23:04AM FOR ME, ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, AS SOON AS THEY
10:23:07AM ARE PRESENTED, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE
10:23:10AM TIMELINE IS RIGHT AWAY SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WE KNOW, AND
10:23:14AM IT'S NOT THIS CONSTANT KICKING THE BALL DOWN THE ROAD,
10:23:20AM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.
10:23:22AM BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
10:23:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:23:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:23:27AM WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT ON THE NEXT, I THINK IT WILL
10:23:32AM BE QUARTERLY IN PERSON AND THEN MONTHLY BY WRITING, I WOULD
10:23:37AM -- AND WE CAN DO A MOTION ON THIS, THAT THE NEXT IN-PERSON
10:23:44AM REPORT THERE BE STATEMENTS DONE OR ACTIONS DONE WITH
10:23:49AM STATEMENTS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL ON WHAT'S BEING DONE TO MOVE
10:23:53AM FORWARD THE GROUNDBREAKING TO THIS YEAR.
10:23:58AM AGAIN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARCH OF 2026, A COUPLE OF
10:24:02AM MONTHS CAN BE SHAVED OFF.
10:24:03AM AND TO GET THE OPENING IN '27, THAT'S NOT AN UNREASONABLE
10:24:08AM REQUEST.
10:24:08AM THAT'S TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
10:24:09AM THIS WILL BE I THINK THE THIRD FIRE STATION IN NORTH TAMPA
10:24:14AM SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE.
10:24:16AM 25 WAS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN 23.
10:24:18AM I JUST KNOW FROM GOING OFF OF 23 ON COUNTY LINE ROAD AND
10:24:23AM EVERYTHING DONE THERE.
10:24:24AM I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION, IF I MAY.
10:24:26AM MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
10:24:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WAIT FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO
10:24:29AM SPEAK.
10:24:29AM I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:24:31AM LET'S DO IT -- CAN YOU HOLD IT UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING?
10:24:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: AT YOUR DISCRETION.
10:24:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, MR. CHAIR.
10:24:40AM MY LIGHT WENT ON AND OFF AS I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT TO
10:24:44AM SAY.
10:24:44AM LAST WEEK, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT
10:24:50AM SLOW-WALKING PROJECTS.
10:24:53AM IT'S A FREE FRUSTRATING THING FOR US AND THE COMMUNITY.
10:25:02AM JACKSON HOUSE, TAMPA UNION STATION, ANY PROJECT THAT THE
10:25:04AM ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T PRIORITIZE -- TAMPA UNION STATION IS
10:25:08AM LEAKING WATER.
10:25:08AM WE FIRST FUNDED IT FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO THROUGH THE CRA.
10:25:14AM AND NOW I THINK FINALLY, THANKS TO ALL THE STAFF, ABBYE AND
10:25:18AM OTHERS WHO ARE MOVING IT FORWARD, I THINK IT WILL MOVE
10:25:21AM FORWARD NOW.
10:25:24AM WHY WOULD WE HAVE A HISTORIC CITY BUILDING WHERE THE
10:25:26AM RENOVATION AND REPAIRS ARE FUNDED BY THE CRA AND NOBODY
10:25:29AM WANTS TO WORK ON IT?
10:25:30AM SOMEBODY UPSTAIRS IS SAYING DON'T DO IT OR SLOW WALK IT
10:25:34AM UNTIL AFTER AN ELECTION OR WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BUILDING
10:25:38AM AND WANT IT TO FALL APART.
10:25:40AM IN THIS CASE ON FIRE STATIONS, THE RUMOR IS THAT I HEARD
10:25:43AM FROM SEVERAL CURRENT AND FORMER EMPLOYEES IS THAT THE MAYOR
10:25:45AM HAS TOLD ALL OF HER SENIOR PEOPLE SHE DOES NOT WANT FIRE
10:25:49AM STATIONS.
10:25:50AM EVEN AFTER THE ELECTION THAT SHE CELEBRATED, MADE FOUR YEARS
10:25:54AM WITHOUT BUILDING A NEW FIRE STATION.
10:25:55AM I HAVE NOT DIRECTLY ASKED THE MAYOR WHETHER THAT IS TRUE OR
10:25:58AM NOT.
10:25:59AM BUT A WAY TO DISPROVE IT, I WOULD ASK THAT THE MAYOR SEND A
10:26:04AM LETTER TO CHIEF TRIPP AND TO CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION COPYING
10:26:07AM ALL OF US SAYING THAT THIS IS A HIGH PRIORITY OF HER
10:26:12AM ADMINISTRATION, THAT THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR
10:26:15AM COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS IS IMPORTANT AND IS A PRIORITY.
10:26:19AM AND THAT SHE WOULD ASK CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION TO MOVE
10:26:22AM FORWARD ON THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
10:26:24AM THAT WOULD BE A GREAT HELP TO US TO KNOW THAT THE MAYOR HAS
10:26:28AM ORDERED THE STAFF TO MOVE QUICKLY.
10:26:30AM AT THAT POINT, IF THE STAFF CAN'T MOVE ANY MORE QUICKLY,
10:26:33AM THAT WOULD BE FINE, BUT AT LEAST IT WOULD DISPEL RUMORS THAT
10:26:36AM THE MAYOR DOES NOT WANT ANY FIRE STATIONS DURING HER TENURE.
10:26:39AM THE FACT NOT DONE UNTIL 2028 KIND OF HINTS THE RUMOR IS
10:26:44AM TRUE.
10:26:44AM HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT AND THE MAYOR CAN SEND A LETTER.
10:26:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:48AM I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD EMBRACE THE PHILOSOPHY OF EVERYTHING
10:26:51AM IS JULIAN B. LANE PARK BECAUSE WE VOTED FOR THAT ALMOST TEN
10:26:56AM YEARS AGO, AND THE DEADLINE WAS FOR MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND,
10:26:59AM AND IT WAS OPEN MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND.
10:27:03AM THAT WAS A MASSIVE $36 MILLION PROJECT.
10:27:05AM IT IS A HUGE PARK.
10:27:06AM IT IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.
10:27:08AM WE HAVE TO USE THAT PHILOSOPHY IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, A
10:27:12AM FIRE STATION, PUBLIC SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
10:27:16AM CRITICAL.
10:27:16AM WE SEE THE POPULATION GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:27:19AM WE SEE THE DEMAND.
10:27:20AM I WANT TO SEE CHIEF TRIPP CONTINUE TO SUCCEED IN HER
10:27:24AM LEADERSHIP.
10:27:25AM I WANT TO SUPPORT HER 100%.
10:27:27AM I THINK IT IS MAKE HASTE.
10:27:33AM THE MAYOR HAS JUST OVER TWO YEARS TO GO.
10:27:36AM LET'S DO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
10:27:38AM MANY WONDERFUL PROJECTS HAVE COME OUT OF THIS ADMINISTRATION
10:27:41AM FROM PIPES ALL THE WAY DOWN.
10:27:42AM THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE SAY, HEY, WE BUILT
10:27:46AM SOMETHING THAT WAS NEEDED.
10:27:47AM AGAIN, BACK TO JULIAN LANE, BECAUSE I DIDN'T BELIEVE THE
10:27:51AM BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING THAT
10:27:54AM BIG SO QUICKLY.
10:27:55AM I DOCUMENT EVERYTHING WITH THE PHOTOGRAPHS FROM MACHINE,
10:27:58AM BREAK GROUND, DIGGER, I THINK THE MAYOR WAS ON THAT.
10:28:01AM BY MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND, 2017, WE WERE ALL CELEBRATING ON
10:28:05AM THAT STAGE THAT THE -- THE PARK WAS NECESSARY.
10:28:09AM IT IS A WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
10:28:11AM BUT THIS IS A FIRE STATION, SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY HAS
10:28:14AM BEEN ASKING FOR.
10:28:15AM AGAIN, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE HERE.
10:28:18AM WHATEVER YOU CAN DO, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT YOU 100%.
10:28:22AM WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.
10:28:23AM THE FUNDING, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT THIS IS AND SHOULD BE A
10:28:27AM VERY HIGH PRIORITY PROJECT.
10:28:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION.
10:28:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS THE CLOSE.
10:28:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY KNOW WHEN THE USF STADIUM IS
10:28:35AM SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED?
10:28:37AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND.
10:28:41AM BULLS' ALUMNI, I HOPE SOON.
10:28:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DEFINITELY HAS TO BE COMPLETED BY THEN.
10:28:47AM THAT SHOULD BE THE ABSOLUTE DROP-DEAD DATE TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:28:50AM IS DONE BEFORE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS PUT IN THERE.
10:28:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS THE OTHER HOWARD AVENUE.
10:28:56AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: TPD UP NEXT.
10:28:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE STADIUM COMPLETED FALL OF '27, FYI.
10:29:13AM >> MAJOR PATRICK MESSMER WITH TPD.
10:29:17AM ASSISTANT CHIEF KATE IS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT
10:29:20AM ON THE TPD SIDE.
10:29:20AM SHE IS OUT OF THE OFFICE THIS WEEK.
10:29:21AM I'M ACTING ASSISTANT CHIEF.
10:29:23AM THAT'S WHY I AM BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING.
10:29:25AM THIS IS THE HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX BUILDING.
10:29:29AM I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHY THIS BUILDING IS BEING CONSTRUCTED.
10:29:33AM SO WE WERE ORIGINALLY, OUR IMPOUND LOT WAS ON SOUTH 34th
10:29:37AM STREET.
10:29:37AM WE HAD TO VACATE THAT FACILITY IN ORDER TO SUPPORT SOLID
10:29:42AM WASTE'S EXPANSION OF THEIR FACILITIES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE
10:29:45AM BETTER SERVICE AND MORE EFFICIENCY TO THE CITIZENS.
10:29:48AM THEY WERE TIED TO THE 34th STREET AREA BECAUSE THAT IS
10:29:51AM WHERE THEIR OPERATIONS ARE.
10:29:53AM OUR IMPOUND LOT LOCATED OUT THERE DID NOT NEED TO BE DOWN
10:29:56AM THERE.
10:29:57AM SO WE HAD TO LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT FACILITY TO USE FOR THIS.
10:30:00AM CURRENTLY, A LOT OF OUR EVIDENCE IS BEING STORED AT A
10:30:04AM TEMPORARY OFF-SITE LOCATION IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE
10:30:08AM EVIDENCE ACROSS THE STREET AT OUR HEADQUARTERS BUILDING.
10:30:10AM THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO INCORPORATE
10:30:14AM ALL OF OUR EVIDENCE, ALONG WITH OUR FORENSICS INVESTIGATIONS
10:30:19AM UNIT AT THE SAME LOCATION.
10:30:21AM THAT WILL SAVE MONEY.
10:30:23AM THAT WILL SAVE SOME TIME, MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE AND MORE
10:30:26AM EFFICIENT FOR CITIZENS TO GO TO ONE PLACE WHEN THEY HAVE TO
10:30:29AM RECOVER EVIDENCE OR PROPERTY AND PICK THAT UP.
10:30:32AM OTHER AGENCIES SUCH AS ORLANDO HAVE SEEN SUCCESS WITH THIS
10:30:35AM MODEL.
10:30:35AM THEY HAVE THEIR FORENSICS AND EVIDENCE FACILITY TOGETHER AS
10:30:39AM WELL AND THAT WORKS VERY WELL FOR THEM.
10:30:41AM ALSO, PART OF OUR LONG-TERM STRATEGIC PLAN, OF COURSE, OUR
10:30:44AM BUILDING NEXT DOOR WAS BUILT IN 1962.
10:30:47AM THAT'S NOT GOING TO LAST FOREVER.
10:30:48AM BY SPENDING SOME MONEY HERE AND INCORPORATING TWO VERY LARGE
10:30:53AM FOOTPRINT UNITS AND THE FACILITY NEXT DOOR, THAT WILL
10:30:57AM ACTUALLY REDUCE THE SIZE OF A FUTURE STATION THAT WE WILL
10:31:01AM HAVE TO BUILD AND WE'LL EVENTUALLY SAVE MONEY THERE.
10:31:04AM WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING STAGE.
10:31:07AM THE DESIGN HAS BEEN DONE.
10:31:08AM THE PERMITS WERE SUBMITTED I BELIEVE IT WAS LATE JANUARY TO
10:31:12AM THE PERMITTING OFFICE.
10:31:13AM WE'RE HOPING TO HEAR BACK SOMETIME BY LATE MARCH ON THE
10:31:17AM PERMITTING.
10:31:18AM AT THAT POINT, THIS IS TURNED INTO A DESIGN BID BUILD
10:31:23AM PROJECT.
10:31:23AM AFTER THE PERMITS ARE DONE, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT OUT FOR
10:31:26AM BID.
10:31:27AM DON'T WANT TO DO THAT UNTIL THE PERMITS ARE COMPLETED IN
10:31:31AM CASE THE PERMITTING OFFICE HAS SUGGESTED CHANGES, WE DON'T
10:31:33AM HAVE TO REBID THE PROJECT A SECOND TIME.
10:31:36AM SO OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE PROJECT BID SOMETIME IN MARCH TO
10:31:40AM HAVE A CONTRACT IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL SOMETIME IN JUNE TO
10:31:44AM AWARD THE BUILD PORTION OF IT.
10:31:47AM WE WILL START ON THAT.
10:31:48AM WHAT I'M BEING TOLD IS THAT WE'RE HOPING FOR ABOUT A
10:31:53AM DECEMBER 2026 DATE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TO BE OVER.
10:31:57AM OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO HURRICANE SEASONS IN
10:31:59AM THERE.
10:32:00AM SO THE WEATHER COULD CHANGE THAT.
10:32:02AM THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST APPROVED SO FAR $40 MILLION.
10:32:12AM LIKE MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, THAT ALSO
10:32:15AM INCLUDES THE SOFT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT AS WELL,
10:32:18AM NOT THE ONLY CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
10:32:20AM MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THIS
10:32:25AM SPECIFIC PROJECT AS WELL.
10:32:27AM AND THEN WE HAVE THE RENDERINGS FROM THE DESIGN PROCESS
10:32:32AM ALONG WITH A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE CURRENT SITE THAT HAS BEEN
10:32:38AM UNIMPROVED AS IT CURRENTLY IS.
10:32:40AM WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
10:32:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:44AM I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
10:32:46AM $40 MILLION PROJECT.
10:32:48AM SAW A COMPLETION DATE.
10:32:49AM DID YOU MEAN TO SAY DECEMBER OF 2027?
10:32:52AM >> WE'RE BEING TOLD DECEMBER OF 2026 IS THE PROJECTED
10:32:56AM COMPLETION DATE, FISCAL YEAR 2027.
10:33:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT BRINGS ME BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM
10:33:03AM OF FIRE STATION THAT HAS TAKEN YEARS TO BUILD.
10:33:07AM THIS IS A MASSIVE PROJECT.
10:33:08AM I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE SITE IS.
10:33:11AM $40 MILLION.
10:33:14AM I'VE TAKEN A TOUR -- I'VE BEEN IN BIG BLUE A BLOCK AWAY TO
10:33:20AM SEE WHAT THE FORENSICS LAB LOOKS LIKE.
10:33:24AM VERY SMALL SPACE.
10:33:25AM OLD BUILDING FROM EARLY 1960s.
10:33:27AM I GET IT.
10:33:28AM I MADE A PHONE CALL TO THE CFO THE OTHER DAY, WHICH I RARELY
10:33:32AM DO, BUT, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN MOVING
10:33:37AM FORWARD IN THE CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATE, IT WAS TALKED
10:33:41AM ABOUT OR BEING TALKED ABOUT ELIMINATION OF PROPERTY TAXES IN
10:33:45AM THE STATE OF FLORIDA FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL DOWN, AUDITING
10:33:49AM THE GOVERNMENT, AUDITING THIS.
10:33:53AM CERTAIN NEW AGENCIES CREATED.
10:33:55AM I KNOW THAT BONDING AND FINANCE IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE
10:33:58AM NEXT TOPIC.
10:34:01AM WE'VE APPROVED A LOT OF MULTI, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS.
10:34:05AM THIS IS ANOTHER $40 MILLION ONE THAT, AND I HAVE A GOOD
10:34:09AM MEMORY, I DON'T REMEMBER VOTING TO APPROVE THIS UNLESS I
10:34:13AM TOTALLY MISSED IT.
10:34:14AM YOU HAD MENTIONED THIS WOULD COME BEFORE US IN JUNE, BUT
10:34:18AM DESIGN AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALREADY PROGRESSING EVEN
10:34:21AM BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
10:34:24AM SO I SUPPORT TPD 100%.
10:34:28AM I SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT TPD HAS AND I KNOW WHAT -- I'VE HEARD
10:34:33AM ABOUT IT AND MAYBE SEEN -- I KNOW WHERE IT IS AT.
10:34:36AM BUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS A TREMENDOUS FACILITY WHEN IT
10:34:40AM COMES TO THIS SIMILAR THING.
10:34:44AM MOVING FORWARD, YES, WE'VE APPROVED A LOT OF BIG CONTRACTS.
10:34:48AM WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
10:34:51AM I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD ON THESE HUGE
10:34:55AM PROJECTS BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY, WE'RE
10:34:57AM BONDING AND BORROWING.
10:35:00AM INTEREST RATES AREN'T COMING DOWN.
10:35:01AM I GET BREAKING NEWS ON MY PHONE EVERY HOUR.
10:35:04AM SOMETHING MAJOR COMING FROM EITHER TARIFFS, THE FINANCE
10:35:08AM MARKET, STOCK MARKET OR THE GOLD MARKET.
10:35:11AM IT'S NOT POSITIVE NEWS.
10:35:14AM I'VE SAID A LOT OF THINGS AND I GO ON MANY, MANY TANGENTS
10:35:18AM WHEN I TALK BUT I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH THIS,
10:35:21AM ESPECIALLY SINCE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE FIRE STATION AND
10:35:25AM 2028.
10:35:26AM WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE HERE.
10:35:28AM I DON'T KNOW WHO HAD THEIR MICROPHONE ON, CLENDENIN OR
10:35:33AM HURTAK.
10:35:34AM HURTAK.
10:35:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:35:37AM I'LL ECHO EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.
10:35:38AM IT SEEMS THAT WHEN IT IS A PRIORITY PROJECT, MAN, THAT GOES
10:35:42AM FAST.
10:35:42AM BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE APPROVED THIS FUNDING.
10:35:46AM I'M GOING TO ASK MR. ROGERO TO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT BECAUSE
10:35:51AM I KNOW I DIDN'T APPROVE THIS.
10:35:53AM I WOULD HAVE VOTED NO, AND I BELIEVE I DID.
10:36:00AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
10:36:03AM IF MEMORY SERVES, AND, OF COURSE, WE'LL GET INTO THE
10:36:06AM POTENTIAL FINANCING OF THIS PROJECT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL
10:36:12AM IN OUR NEXT PRESENTATION.
10:36:14AM BUT IF MEMORY SERVES, REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION WAS APPROVED
10:36:17AM BY COUNCIL TO PROCEED SPENDING MONEY PREDICATED ON FUTURE
10:36:21AM ISSUANCE OF DEBT.
10:36:22AM WE HAVE NOT ISSUED THE DEBT.
10:36:24AM AGAIN, WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL IN THE NEXT
10:36:27AM PRESENTATION.
10:36:27AM I WILL CONFIRM THAT.
10:36:29AM IF MEMORY SERVES, THERE IS AN APPROVED REIMBURSEMENT
10:36:32AM RESOLUTION.
10:36:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOING ALONG WITH THAT, THE FUNDING SOURCES
10:36:37AM ARE BANK NOTES, GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING, UTILITY SERVICE
10:36:40AM TAXES AND NON-AD VALOREM BONDS.
10:36:42AM HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THIS PROJECT EXPECT TO BOND?
10:36:45AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 40 MILLION AT THIS TIME.
10:36:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL OF IT?
10:36:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO.
10:36:50AM AGAIN, COULD YOU STICK A PIN IN IT, I HAVE MORE DETAIL ON A
10:36:56AM MULTIYEAR LEVEL FOR THIS PROJECT IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
10:37:00AM I CAN GRAB IT NOW, BUT I CAN ADDRESS IT THEN.
10:37:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ABSOLUTELY BRING IT UP THEN.
10:37:05AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COPY.
10:37:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT BEFORE THIS COMES
10:37:09AM FORWARD TO US, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS HOW WE CAN REDUCE
10:37:12AM THIS.
10:37:13AM DO WE HAVE TO HAVE EVERY BELL AND WHISTLE OR CAN WE ADD THEM
10:37:16AM LATER?
10:37:16AM I WILL NOT APPROVE $40 MILLION FOR THIS, MAYBE 20, AND WE
10:37:21AM CAN ADD TO IT AS WE CAN.
10:37:23AM BUT AS CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO SAID, EVERY SINGLE DAY, I MEAN, I
10:37:28AM JUST SAW THE NEWS THIS MORNING FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES ABOUT
10:37:34AM HOW FOLKS ARE FEELING, THEY ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD.
10:37:38AM WE AREN'T MOVING FORWARD FISCALLY.
10:37:41AM SAW SOME REALLY CONCERNING NUMBERS ABOUT PEOPLE'S INABILITY
10:37:47AM TO MAINTAIN THEIR BUDGETS HERE IN TAMPA BAY.
10:37:51AM WE'RE ONE OF THE WORST PLACES, ACCORDING TO THE TAMPA BAY
10:37:55AM BUSINESS JOURNAL FOR PEOPLE IN DEBT.
10:37:57AM ALL SIGNS ARE SHOWING WORSE, NOT BETTER.
10:38:02AM SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
10:38:06AM I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT
10:38:10AM NOW.
10:38:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN.
10:38:11AM YES, SIR.
10:38:12AM AND THEN CARLSON AND THEN VIERA, MIRANDA.
10:38:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
10:38:19AM I WAS ALSO CONFUSED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I REMEMBER HAVING
10:38:22AM THIS DISCUSSION.
10:38:23AM AND MY ISSUE WITH THIS WAS WE HAVE THIS BIG PIECE OF
10:38:26AM PROPERTY AND WE ALSO HAVE THIS MONSTROSITY OF A BUILDING
10:38:30AM NEXT DOOR, BIG BLUE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH
10:38:33AM IT.
10:38:33AM MY CONCERN, LIKE, WHY AREN'T WE INVESTING IN A CO-LOCATION
10:38:37AM OF THOSE FACILITIES?
10:38:37AM I REMEMBER BRINGING THAT ISSUE UP AT THE TIME.
10:38:42AM MY GOODNESS, THAT IS AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY AND STILL NOT
10:38:46AM GOING TO HAVE A POLICE HEADQUARTERS OUT OF IT.
10:38:48AM THAT'S JUST CONFUSING TO ME THAT WE WOULD BE INVESTING THIS
10:38:50AM MUCH MONEY ON THIS LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COULD
10:38:53AM PROBABLY, POTENTIALLY CO-LOCATE BOTH FACILITIES.
10:38:57AM I'M JUST BEFUDDLED BY THE WHOLE THING.
10:39:00AM GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHEN THIS REIMBURSABLE WAS DONE.
10:39:04AM ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT?
10:39:05AM >> IT WAS DURING BUDGET SEASON.
10:39:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ACTUAL BUDGET?
10:39:09AM >> YEAH, INDICATE CAME BEFORE US.
10:39:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO NOT RECALL MOVING THIS FORWARD.
10:39:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, I'M GETTING CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
10:39:18AM I THINK IT WAS PART OF A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION
10:39:21AM ENCOMPASSING A NUMBER OF PROJECTS BASED ON THE POTENTIAL
10:39:23AM DEBT PLAN.
10:39:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS WHAT WE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT A
10:39:27AM YEAR AGO.
10:39:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS ROLLED INTO A BIGGER THING?
10:39:30AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO.
10:39:30AM IF IT WAS PART OF A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION IT IS ITEMIZED
10:39:34AM AS ITS OWN PROJECT.
10:39:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, I KNOW
10:39:38AM I BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD THE PROBLEM WITH BIG BLUE
10:39:41AM AND WHY AREN'T WE RESOLVING THIS?
10:39:44AM WE HAVE THIS PARCEL.
10:39:46AM AS WE SAW WITH THE FLEET MANAGEMENT AND OTHER THINGS, ONE OF
10:39:52AM THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS LAND, TRYING TO FIND PIECES OF
10:39:55AM PROPERTY LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THESE THINGS.
10:39:57AM IF WE HAVE THIS BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY SITTING THERE,
10:40:00AM CENTRALLY LOCATED, IT SEEMS LIKE AT LEAST WE SHOULD HAVE
10:40:05AM EXPLORED CO-LOCATING, RELOCATION, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE
10:40:08AM BONDING, SEEMS SHORTSIGHTED TO BE PIECEMEALING THIS.
10:40:13AM I'VE GOT SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
10:40:16AM I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK.
10:40:17AM I APOLOGIZE IF WE MISSED SOMETHING, BUT GOT TO GO BACK AND
10:40:21AM LOOK AT THAT.
10:40:23AM ALL THREE OF US LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND GO, WHAT?
10:40:28AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION ALSO.
10:40:30AM WE'LL GO BACK AND CLARIFY.
10:40:31AM I HAVE STAFF CLARIFYING IT RIGHT NOW.
10:40:34AM WE'LL PROVIDE AN ANSWER DURING THIS MEETING.
10:40:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON, VIERA, MIRANDA.
10:40:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE SAID THIS SEVERAL TIMES.
10:40:40AM WE NEED A CLEAR DECISION POINT BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT
10:40:46AM SOMETHING AND IT'S INCLUDED KIND OF A YEAR FROM NOW, WE
10:40:49AM PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE GREAT 8 PLAN AND YOU DIDN'T OBJECT
10:40:53AM OR VOTE AGAINST IT, THAT MEANS YOU ACCEPTED IT.
10:40:56AM OR WE INCLUDED IN A CIP.
10:40:59AM WHEN APPROVING THE CIP, TAKE IT OUT AT ANY TIME, CITY
10:41:03AM COUNCIL HAS SEVERAL BITES OF THE APPLE.
10:41:06AM YEAR LATER, OH, NO, YOU APPROVED IT.
10:41:08AM YOU MADE THE DECISION ALREADY.
10:41:10AM THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGHT ISSUES EARLIER.
10:41:13AM IN TERMS OF ADMINISTRATION, WE HAVE ADMINISTRATION TWO
10:41:17AM ADMINISTRATIONS AGO THAT FACED THE GREAT RECESSION AND HAD
10:41:20AM TO CUT BACK ON A LOT OF THINGS AND HAD TO SAVE MONEY AND DID
10:41:23AM A GREAT JOB OF THAT.
10:41:25AM THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION SUBSIDIZED DEVELOPERS AND THE
10:41:28AM COMMUNITY OBJECTED AGAINST THAT.
10:41:29AM THEY WANTED INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT.
10:41:32AM THE GOOD THING IS THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS INVESTED IN
10:41:34AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:41:35AM THE PROBLEM IS THAT BECAUSE OF INFLATION AND WHATEVER ELSE,
10:41:39AM MANY OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE GONE 50% OR MORE OVER BUDGET.
10:41:44AM NOT EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS HAS BEEN MOVING
10:41:47AM FORWARD, A LOT OF THINGS THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T SEE, BUT AS
10:41:50AM COSTS HAVE BEEN GOING UP AND UP AND UP AND THE
10:41:53AM ADMINISTRATION ADDING PROJECTS, THE DEBT JUST KEEPS GOING UP
10:41:56AM AND UP AND UP.
10:41:58AM WE'LL SEE THAT IN A MINUTE.
10:41:59AM IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF ONE OF YOUR KIDS COMES TO YOU AND SAYS,
10:42:04AM WELL, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEED IT, YOU LOOK AND SAY, I
10:42:08AM KNOW YOU REALLY NEED IT I CAN BUY IT IF I GET ANOTHER CREDIT
10:42:11AM CARD AND THEN THEY COME BACK TO YOU A FEW MONTHS LATER AND
10:42:14AM SAY, WELL, I REALLY, REALLY NEED THIS TOO.
10:42:17AM YES, YOU NEED IT.
10:42:18AM EVERYTHING PRESENTED IS NEEDED.
10:42:20AM SO IS FIXING THE ROADS, BUT WE'RE NOT SAYING PRIORITY FIX
10:42:25AM ROADS.
10:42:25AM THEN THE KID COMES BACK AND SAYS I NEED A THIRD CREDIT CARD
10:42:28AM AND FOURTH CREDIT CARD AND FIFTH CREDIT CARD AND NOW WE ARE
10:42:31AM ON THE TENTH CREDIT CARD.
10:42:32AM WE'RE MAXING OUT ALL CREDIT CARDS.
10:42:34AM PAYING HIGH INTEREST RATES.
10:42:36AM AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM OUR GREAT
10:42:39AM GRANDKIDS.
10:42:40AM IF A PROJECT IS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, IT'S A HUNDRED
10:42:42AM MILLION DOLLARS IN INTEREST.
10:42:44AM THAT EXTRA HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IS REAL MONEY THAT
10:42:47AM TAXPAYERS HAVE TO PAY.
10:42:48AM AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO BORROW THIS MUCH.
10:42:51AM I WOULD JUST ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, STOP -- THE TAX
10:42:56AM INCREASE WAS NOT APPROVED.
10:42:57AM I ALSO HEARD RUMORS FROM CURRENT AND FORMER EMPLOYEES THAT
10:43:01AM THE ADMINISTRATION BRAGGED THAT OKAY SINCE CITY COUNCIL
10:43:04AM TURNED DOWN THEIR TAX INCREASE THEY ARE GOING TO BOND
10:43:07AM EVERYTHING AND TEACH US A LESSON.
10:43:09AM THEY ARE NOT TEACHING US A LESSON.
10:43:11AM THEY ARE TEACHING THE COMMUNITY A LESSON BECAUSE THE
10:43:13AM COMMUNITY IS GOING TO SUFFER BECAUSE OF THIS.
10:43:16AM IF THIS ADMINISTRATION ADDED A BILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT,
10:43:19AM THAT'S DEPENDING ON THE TIME THEY PUT IT IN, POTENTIALLY A
10:43:22AM BILLION DOLLARS IN INTEREST, A BILLION DOLLARS IN INTEREST
10:43:25AM IS NOT A GOOD FISCAL DECISION.
10:43:27AM THE TAXPAYERS DON'T WANT THAT.
10:43:29AM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO AGREE TO A TAX INCREASE.
10:43:31AM WE NEED TO BE GOOD CUSTODIANS OF THEIR MONEY.
10:43:34AM WE NEED TO START PLANNING TO BUILD IMPORTANT BUILDINGS LIKE
10:43:37AM THIS, BUT WE NEED TO STOP THE DEBT.
10:43:39AM IF DEBT IS NOT AN OPTION, THESE PRESENTATIONS ARE NOT GOING
10:43:42AM TO COME TO US ANYMORE.
10:43:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
10:43:45AM AND THEN I'LL CLOSE IT OUT.
10:43:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:43:48AM THERE ARE TWO THINGS I'M GOING TO SPEAK OF.
10:43:50AM THE FIRST ONE, FORGET THAT THIS IS THE TPD PROJECT.
10:43:54AM IT'S ON THE IDEA OF SLOW WALKING AND HOW SHALL I SAY THIS,
10:43:58AM WHEN YOU'RE PRESENTED WITH CERTAIN OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE YOU
10:44:01AM MAKE REASONABLE CONCLUSIONS FROM THE EVIDENCE.
10:44:03AM WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROJECT, YOU COMPARE IT TO 24
10:44:07AM WHICH HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSION A LONG TIME, YOU CAN MAKE
10:44:09AM REASONABLE DEDUCTIONS AND CONCLUSIONS FROM THE EVIDENCE
10:44:12AM PRESENTED BEFORE YOU JUST THE WAY IT IS.
10:44:14AM I LOOK AT IT, I MAKE MY CONCLUSION.
10:44:17AM AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION -- AGAIN,
10:44:19AM LET'S FORGET THAT IT IS TPD.
10:44:21AM I'LL DEAL WITH THAT IN A SECOND.
10:44:24AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE APPARENT RESISTANCE WITH REGARDS TO 24.
10:44:29AM NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, SIR.
10:44:31AM YOU'RE THERE.
10:44:32AM YOU'RE NOT BUYING INTO THE ARGUMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
10:44:35AM YOU MAKE INFERENCES FROM THAT.
10:44:36AM YOU MAKE CONCLUSIONS FROM THAT AND SO FORTH.
10:44:39AM THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I MAKE.
10:44:40AM IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN SLOW WALKED IT'S GOING TO
10:44:43AM HAPPEN.
10:44:44AM STATION 24 IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:44:45AM WHAT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ME IS THIS, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
10:44:48AM WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT 24, THERE WAS SOME HESITATION
10:44:52AM ON LOCATION.
10:44:53AM I TOLD FOLKS, WELL, LISTEN, LET'S GO WITH THE LOCATION.
10:44:57AM DOUBLE OR TRIPLE, DON'T WAIT FOUR YEARS FOR A HOME RUN.
10:45:00AM WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE FOUR YEARS, RIGHT?
10:45:02AM THAT'S CERTAINLY MY FRUSTRATION IN THAT REGARD.
10:45:06AM IF IT WAS UP TO ME, WE COULD HAVE -- WE WOULD HAVE 25 FOR
10:45:13AM SULPHUR SPRINGS, 24 FOR NORTH TAMPA.
10:45:15AM HOPEFULLY WE CAN FINISH UP FLEET MAINTENANCE IN THE NEXT TWO
10:45:18AM YEARS AND BEGIN A REAL ROBUST DISCUSSION ON WHAT TO DO WITH
10:45:23AM STATION 9 AT CHESTNUT IN TERMS OF EXPANDING SERVICE FOR WEST
10:45:26AM TAMPA.
10:45:27AM WE CAN DO THAT AND LOOK AT DOWNTOWN, SOMETHING THAT IS SO
10:45:30AM IMPORTANT.
10:45:31AM WHEN IT COMES TO TPD, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO THE EXTENT ANY
10:45:36AM FISCAL CONCERNS, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN HAS TALKED ABOUT BIG
10:45:40AM BLUE, DIFFERENT THINGS, POTENTIAL MOVING OF THAT AND SO
10:45:43AM FORTH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DISCUSSION WITH THE PBA, WITH
10:45:48AM THE POLICE UNION AND WITH DR. CHIEF BERCAW ON THAT ISSUE TO
10:45:53AM SEE IF THERE ARE ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE.
10:45:55AM IF THERE ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAYS OF MOVING FORWARD
10:45:59AM WITH THAT THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY THE UNIONS, THAT ARE
10:46:01AM SUPPORTED BY THE POLICE CHIEF, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
10:46:04AM THAT'S MY POSITION.
10:46:05AM OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE ARE MORE EFFICIENT WAYS OF DOING THIS
10:46:09AM LET'S DO IT.
10:46:10AM THAT'S COMMON SENSE AND GOOD GOVERNMENT AND EVERYTHING.
10:46:13AM THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GO, CALL MR. BARCLAY
10:46:17AM WITH THE POLICE UNION, CALL CHIEF BERCAW, HEY, LET'S HAVE A
10:46:21AM DISCUSSION ON THIS.
10:46:22AM BETTER WAY TO DO THIS WHERE WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT?
10:46:25AM I THINK THAT IS THE WAY TO GO FORWARD ON THIS PARTICULAR
10:46:28AM PROJECT.
10:46:29AM I THANK YOU FOR THIS.
10:46:30AM I'LL SUPPORT THIS IN PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER WAY IT COMES OUT,
10:46:33AM OBVIOUSLY, BUT IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE INTERNAL
10:46:37AM DISCUSSIONS ON IT TO MAKE IT BETTER TO MEET SOME OF THE
10:46:39AM CONCERNS, TOTALLY DOWN WITH THAT.
10:46:41AM THANK YOU.
10:46:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:46:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:46:44AM IN FACT, IF I RECALL, THE CHIEF, WHO IS NOT HERE TODAY, THE
10:46:49AM ASSISTANT CHIEF REPRESENTING TODAY, SHE WAS HERE SOMETIME
10:46:53AM BACK, MONTHS, YEAR AGO, WHATEVER IT WAS.
10:46:55AM SHE GAVE A DETAILED -- IF I RECALL BECAUSE I'M GOING BACK.
10:46:59AM SIX OTHERS THAT HEARD THE SAME THING.
10:47:02AM MAYBE I HEARD DIFFERENTLY.
10:47:04AM I'M NOT SURE.
10:47:05AM SHE GAVE AN EXPLICIT REPORT ON WHAT THE NEEDS WERE.
10:47:09AM SHE EVEN HAD DETAILED INFORMATION ON ESPECIALLY ON THE
10:47:16AM OFFICE THAT YOU HAVE WHERE YOU KEEP YOUR FILE THAT YOU NEED
10:47:21AM FOR EVIDENCE, YOUR EVIDENCE ROOM.
10:47:23AM HOW WE'RE DOING IT IN BOXES, CARDBOARD BOXES, AM I CORRECT
10:47:27AM OR NOT?
10:47:30AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
10:47:30AM I CAN AGREES A FEW OF THE COMMENTS.
10:47:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- GOING THROUGH SO MANY THINGS HERE.
10:47:35AM I REMEMBER SHE SHOWED US EITHER ORLANDO OR ST. PETE, HOW
10:47:39AM IT'S ALL SO WELL DONE IN A WAY YOU CAN ALMOST NOT DESTROY
10:47:47AM THE EVIDENCE.
10:47:48AM IF SOMETHING CATCHES FIRE ONE OF THE BOXES, THEY ARE ALL
10:47:53AM GONE.
10:47:53AM CRIMES THAT ARE UNSOLVED AND ONES COMING IN NOW.
10:47:57AM THAT EVIDENCE ROOM ALONE IS WORTH SOMETHING TO HAVE, TO MAKE
10:48:01AM SURE THAT THOSE THAT ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW ARE PUNISHED
10:48:04AM BY THE LAW.
10:48:05AM I SAW THAT LIKE THE REST OF US DID AND I SAW OTHER THINGS
10:48:13AM NEEDED.
10:48:13AM THAT BUILDING THERE, WHOEVER BUYS IT MORE THAN LIKELY TEAR
10:48:16AM IT DOWN IF WE EVER SELL IT OR THEY HAVE TO SPEND MORE THAN
10:48:20AM TWICE.
10:48:21AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COSTS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, IT'S IN
10:48:26AM NEED OF EXTENSIVE REPAIRS, THAT'S MY KNOWLEDGE OF IT.
10:48:31AM THAT ASIDE, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE GOT TO
10:48:35AM BUY AND BUILD, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SELL TO
10:48:38AM REPLACE IT WITH?
10:48:39AM OR -- THOSE HAVE NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED, I DON'T BELIEVE.
10:48:44AM NO ONE HAS EVER DONE A VALUATION OF THE BUILDING THAT I KNOW
10:48:48AM OF.
10:48:48AM MAYBE THEY HAVE, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
10:48:50AM IN ORDER TO HAVE AN OPERATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE
10:48:55AM WHERE YOU CAN WORK.
10:48:57AM I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T WORK THERE.
10:49:01AM IT HAS -- THE LIFE SPAN OF THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN A LONG,
10:49:05AM LONG TIME AGO WHEN IT WAS A MARINE BANK, I THINK BEFORE THAT
10:49:08AM AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
10:49:09AM IT WAS AN OFFICE BUILDING AT ONE TIME I BELIEVE.
10:49:12AM I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
10:49:14AM BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS TO LOOK AT.
10:49:17AM WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM IF WE WERE NEVER GROWING.
10:49:22AM YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM.
10:49:23AM YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM, WOULDN'T HAVE A CONVENTION
10:49:28AM CENTER.
10:49:28AM WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE ARENAS SPORTS
10:49:32AM STADIUM.
10:49:34AM YOU WOULD HAVE NONE OF THAT PROBLEM BUT YOU WOULD HAVE A
10:49:36AM BIGGER PROBLEM, THAT YOUR KIDS OR GRANDKIDS WOULD BE LIVING
10:49:39AM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
10:49:42AM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
10:49:46AM LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, EVERYTHING IS GOING UP.
10:49:48AM A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T BUY EGGS ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T.
10:49:55AM THE MONEY TODAY IS UNBELIEVABLE THE COST.
10:49:58AM I'M ONE, AND I'VE FOLLOWED THIS MY WHOLE LIFE.
10:50:01AM MY FATHER TOLD ME ONCE, IF YOU CAN'T BUY SOMETHING YOU CAN'T
10:50:05AM PAY IN 30 DAYS, DON'T BUY IT.
10:50:08AM I MISSED A LOT OF DEALS BUT I DIDN'T BUY IT.
10:50:12AM I NEVER BOUGHT A NEW CAR, NEVER.
10:50:15AM I NEVER INTEND TO.
10:50:16AM WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS IT'S GOT TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT
10:50:23AM THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE NEED AND THE NECESSITY FOR THIS
10:50:27AM BUILDING, ALL OF IT.
10:50:28AM AND WHERE IT IS AND YOUR STORAGE VEHICLES, THOSE PUT IN
10:50:33AM SPECIAL STORAGE BECAUSE THEY COMMITTED A CRIME, NOT THE CAR,
10:50:36AM THE PEOPLE IN IT.
10:50:37AM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO UNDERSTAND
10:50:42AM WHY IT IS A NECESSITY, WHAT IS THE COST OF DOING ALL THAT
10:50:44AM AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT TO SOME DEGREE.
10:50:48AM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
10:50:49AM I'M NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT, BUT I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO
10:50:52AM KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE BEFORE I TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
10:50:55AM I'M NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT.
10:50:56AM LET ME SAY THAT RIGHT NOW.
10:50:58AM HOWEVER, THIS CITY BETTER TIGHTEN THE BELT ABOUT -- WHAT I
10:51:07AM SEE HAPPENING NOW, EVERYBODY WANTS TO CUT EVERYBODY ELSE OUT
10:51:11AM OF A JOB, WHICH I UNDERSTAND.
10:51:13AM SOME MAY HAVE A MINUTE THING, BUT WHEN YOU START TAKING
10:51:16AM DEPARTMENTS COMPLETELY OUT AND IT RUNS FROM THE FEDERAL
10:51:19AM GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING,
10:51:22AM GOD BLESS THEM ALL.
10:51:23AM BUT THEY BETTER LOOK AT THEMSELVES FIRST.
10:51:26AM AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
10:51:28AM MAYBE THREE COUNTRIES RUN THE WORLD SO THEY THINK.
10:51:36AM THE WORLD ISN'T GOING TO TAKE THAT.
10:51:38AM IT'S GOING TO BE AN UNEASY YEARS TO COME.
10:51:42AM WHO KNOWS IF THE GRANTS WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED WILL BE HERE
10:51:44AM OR NOT.
10:51:45AM SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
10:51:47AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:51:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:48AM WHAT'S NEXT?
10:51:51AM >> IF I COULD RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THOSE.
10:51:53AM FIRST OFF, ON THE TIMING, I KNOW AS YOU ALL SAW FROM THE
10:51:57AM SLIDE, THIS IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE.
10:51:59AM WE'RE NOT BUILDING FROM THE GROUND UP.
10:52:01AM SO I THINK SOME OF THE TIME, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAINLY A
10:52:05AM RENOVATION, NOT A NEW CONSTRUCTION.
10:52:07AM SO THAT MAY BE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE NOT TALKING
10:52:09AM ABOUT A 2027, 2028 ISSUE.
10:52:13AM AS IT COMES TO THE -- WHAT'S BEEN COMMENTED ABOUT, THE
10:52:18AM HEADQUARTERS BUILDING NEXT DOOR, I WAS PART OF A SMALL GROUP
10:52:22AM BACK IN 2021 THAT DID A SPATIAL NEEDS ANALYSIS FOR A NEW
10:52:27AM FACILITY.
10:52:28AM THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS PROJECT WAS DECIDED.
10:52:31AM WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE SPACE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER,
10:52:34AM SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT ORLANDO, THEY'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS
10:52:37AM WITH COMBINING THEIR EVIDENCE AND FORENSICS UNITS AT AN
10:52:40AM OFF-SITE FACILITY THAT'S NOT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
10:52:44AM FUNCTIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
10:52:46AM IF WE SPEND THE MONEY TO DO THIS NOW, THE CONSTRUCTION IS
10:52:49AM GOING TO BE CHEAPER THAN IF WE SPEND THE MONEY TO BUILD A
10:52:52AM LARGER POLICE FACILITY FIVE, TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
10:52:56AM I TOURED ST. PETERSBURG'S FACILITY.
10:52:58AM WHILE I WAS DOING THAT, THEY BUILT A VERY MODERN, VERY
10:53:02AM EFFICIENT, VERY EFFECTIVE FACILITY FOR I BELIEVE IT WAS
10:53:05AM AROUND $80 MILLION.
10:53:06AM IF WE HAD TO REPLICATE THAT FACILITY TODAY, THE COST WOULD
10:53:09AM BE PROBABLY MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT.
10:53:11AM SO THE QUICKER WE CAN GET THIS DONE AND, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO
10:53:15AM GET THIS DONE AT A CERTAIN POINT BECAUSE WE HAD TO VACATE
10:53:18AM OUR FACILITY DUE TO SOLID WASTE'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
10:53:21AM THEMSELVES, SO WE'RE IN A TEMPORARY FACILITY THAT IS NOT
10:53:25AM SERVING THE NEEDS.
10:53:26AM WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO STORE VEHICLES AT HEADQUARTERS.
10:53:28AM WE DON'T HAVE PROCESSING BAYS AT HEADQUARTERS.
10:53:30AM SO WE'RE HAVING TO TRY TO MAKE DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT
10:53:34AM WE HAVE.
10:53:35AM THAT'S THE REASON THIS IS IN FRONT OF YOU.
10:53:37AM I WAS PART OF THE INITIAL RFQ IN 2022 FOR THE DESIGN PORTION
10:53:42AM OF IT WHICH I KNOW WENT TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT.
10:53:45AM I KNOW THE 40 MILLION FOR THE BUILD IS CLEARLY NOT.
10:53:48AM I KNOW WHEN THIS COMES IN FRONT OF YOU IN JUNE HOPEFULLY FOR
10:53:52AM THE BUILD PORTION OF IT, WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON
10:53:56AM EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS SAYING ABOUT A VERY
10:53:59AM DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE SPECIFIC NEEDS FOR THE FACILITY.
10:54:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:54:03AM MR. ROGERO.
10:54:05AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND I HAVE CLARIFICATION, WHICH MIRRORS
10:54:08AM SOME OF WHAT MR. MESSMER SAID AND ALSO COINCIDES WITH
10:54:13AM DISCUSSION OF MR. KOPESKY AND MR. PERRY.
10:54:16AM IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME NOW.
10:54:18AM I PULLED UP THE TIME FRAME.
10:54:19AM AS YOU HEARD IN OCTOBER OF 2022, COUNCIL APPROVED FOR DESIGN
10:54:25AM SITE IMPROVEMENT, ET CETERA.
10:54:27AM THIS IS MAYBE COUNCIL WILL RECALL, AND THE SUMMARY IS WE ALL
10:54:32AM REMEMBER ACCURATELY, IT WAS A COMBINATION OF A PROJECT THAT
10:54:36AM STARTED OUT AROUND $8 MILLION.
10:54:39AM WE HAVE SPENT, WITH COUNCIL'S PERMISSION, $7 MILLION OF THAT
10:54:43AM SO FAR AND CHANGE, ROUNDING, FOR DESIGN, SITE IMPROVEMENTS,
10:54:48AM ET CETERA.
10:54:48AM THE NEXT ITERATION, AND THIS IS WHEN THE DISCUSSION OCCURRED
10:54:53AM LAST YEAR, THE NEXT PLANNED ITERATION, AT LEAST OUR INTENT
10:54:58AM IS TO COME FOR THE LARGER ENCOMPASSING PROJECT OF 40 PLUS
10:55:02AM MILLION DOLLARS.
10:55:04AM I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXACT DATE OF THAT.
10:55:08AM THE DESIGN-BUILD WAS APPROVED, AS MR. MESSMER SAID, OCTOBER
10:55:14AM 2022.
10:55:15AM THE CONTRACT WAS LET.
10:55:16AM WE SPEND MONEY -- WE SPENT MONEY AND THE DISCUSSION OCCURRED
10:55:20AM NOT QUITE A YEAR AGO IN JUNE, THE DISCUSSION WE ARE ALL
10:55:23AM REMEMBERING ABOUT THE COSTS, BIG BLUE, RETURN ON
10:55:29AM INVESTMENTS, PROS AND CONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS
10:55:33AM WHY WE HAVEN'T COME TO COUNCIL YET WITH BIGGER OR LARGER
10:55:38AM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION NOR HAVE WE COME TO COUNCIL YET
10:55:42AM WITH REQUEST TO ISSUE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
10:55:45AM AGAIN, I'LL HAVE MORE YEAR BY YEAR DETAIL ON THIS PROJECT
10:55:49AM FINANCING IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
10:55:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THE 8 MILLION
10:55:54AM TO 40 MILLION.
10:55:55AM I KNOW THINGS HAVE GOTTEN EXPENSIVE.
10:55:57AM BUT AS YOU NOTICE OUTSIDE, I DON'T HAVE A CAR BECAUSE IT'S
10:56:01AM AT THE MECHANIC.
10:56:02AM MONDAY THE ESTIMATE WAS 250.
10:56:04AM TUESDAY, IT WAS 350.
10:56:05AM 4:30 YESTERDAY, THE ESTIMATE WAS $850 FOR MY REPAIR AND I
10:56:09AM HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO FIX IT.
10:56:11AM AND MY MORTGAGE IS DUE ON SATURDAY.
10:56:13AM SO THE TERRIBLE ANALOGY I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS EVERYTHING IS
10:56:21AM GETTING EXPENSIVE.
10:56:22AM SPEND, SPEND, SPEND.
10:56:24AM WE'VE BONDED SO MUCH.
10:56:25AM YES, I'VE SUPPORTED A LOT OF PROJECTS, BUT IT IS A
10:56:29AM DISSERVICE TO THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION AND YOU'VE BEEN HERE.
10:56:33AM YOU'VE BEEN HERE SINCE I STARTED AND BEFORE.
10:56:37AM I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THE FUTURE WITH, WE TALK ABOUT
10:56:42AM INTERESTS AND JAMIE DIMON AND ALL THE BANKS ARE MAKING THE
10:56:48AM MONEY.
10:56:48AM THE INTEREST PAID ON THESE KIND OF PROJECTS IS UNBELIEVABLE.
10:56:52AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA MADE A COMMENT ABOUT TALKING TO MR.
10:56:57AM BARCLAY AT THE UNION, SITTING DOWN WITH DR. CHIEF BERCAW.
10:57:02AM YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE ABSOLUTE NEEDS?
10:57:04AM DO WE HAVE TO SPEND THE ENTIRE AMOUNT?
10:57:06AM AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
10:57:10AM WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE THAT HAVE
10:57:13AM BEEN BONDED.
10:57:14AM WE BORROWED A LOT.
10:57:15AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T OVERBURDEN OURSELVES,
10:57:20AM ESPECIALLY WITH THE CHANGE IN THE POLITICAL CLIMATE FOR THE
10:57:22AM LAST FEW MONTHS.
10:57:23AM I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVEN SEEN WHAT'S COMING YET.
10:57:28AM WE'VE ONLY GOTTEN THE TEASER TRAILER.
10:57:30AM I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL MOVING FORWARD.
10:57:34AM THESE THINGS KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT.
10:57:36AM I'VE BEEN UP SINCE 1:30 THINKING ABOUT MONEY, NOT JUST
10:57:40AM FIXING MY CAR, BUT GOING INTO THIS WORKSHOP, LOOKING OVER
10:57:43AM THE AGENDA, LOOKING OVER BACKUP DOCUMENTS, ANYTHING.
10:57:46AM WE SPEND A LOT.
10:57:47AM AND WE HAVE TO REEVALUATE A LOT OF DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD.
10:57:53AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:57:55AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:57:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:57:56AM WHAT IS THE NEXT ITEM?
10:57:58AM WE'RE STILL ON NUMBER 2.
10:58:10AM HOW MANY MORE ITEMS ARE AFTER YOU, MR. WASHINGTON?
10:58:14AM >> WE HAVE A FEW MORE.
10:58:15AM I BELIEVE THREE OR FOUR.
10:58:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THEN WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF PUBLIC
10:58:20AM COMMENT.
10:58:20AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:58:23AM HOW ARE YOU?
10:58:24AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: LARRY WASHINGTON, DIRECTOR OF THE SOLID
10:58:27AM WASTE DEPARTMENT, HERE TODAY TO PRESENT ON -- AGAIN, THIS
10:58:31AM WILL BE BRIEF -- TO PRESENT ON THE SOLID WASTE RELOCATION
10:58:34AM FROM SPRUCE STREET TO 34th STREET, TO HAVE A MORE
10:58:39AM INTEGRATED SYSTEM, AS WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.
10:58:42AM SO WE HAVE NO MAJOR CHANGES.
10:58:44AM JUST MINOR UPDATES.
10:58:45AM THAT'S IT TODAY.
10:58:46AM JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS WAS ISSUED TO KOKOLAKIS AS THE
10:58:56AM BUILD DESIGN FIRM.
10:58:57AM THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS AS MENTIONED BEFORE.
10:58:59AM WE PLANNED ON BREAKING GROUND IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR,
10:59:05AM HOWEVER, WE HAVE SOME MINOR DELAYS WITH PERMITTING.
10:59:07AM WE HAVE TWO PERMITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED RIGHT
10:59:15AM NOW.
10:59:15AM THAT IS THE DEMOLITION PERMIT AND SITE REVIEW PERMIT.
10:59:19AM HOWEVER, THE PARENT PERMIT, THE OVERARCHING PERMIT HAS
10:59:22AM ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND ALREADY RECEIVED OUR NOTICE TO
10:59:25AM PROCEED.
10:59:26AM WE'RE WAITING ON THOSE TWO PERMITS TO HAVE THE
10:59:28AM GROUNDBREAKING.
10:59:29AM YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT SHORTLY.
10:59:31AM OUR GOAL IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GROUNDBREAKING IN
10:59:33AM MARCH, MARCH OF THIS YEAR WITH AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION TIME
10:59:38AM FRAME -- WE SPOKE ABOUT QUARTERS AND THIS IS CALENDAR YEAR
10:59:42AM -- OF THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER OR THE BEGINNING OF THE
10:59:45AM SECOND QUARTER OF THE CALENDAR YEAR 2027.
10:59:48AM WE'RE STILL ON TRACK.
10:59:51AM EVEN IF THERE ARE MINOR DELAYS, FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE
10:59:54AM KOKOLAKIS, AND THEY BUILT THE TRANSFER STATION.
11:00:00AM THERE IS A LIST OF BENEFITS, BUT I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL
11:00:00AM ABOUT THAT.
11:00:01AM STILL REMAINS INTACT.
11:00:03AM EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE MINOR DELAYS, WE DO HAVE THE SAME
11:00:09AM CONSTRUCTION FIRM THAT BUILT OUR TRANSFER STATION YEARS AGO.
11:00:19AM THEY ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, SO WE ARE EXPECTING
11:00:22AM SOME ACCELERATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE SO
11:00:27AM WE ARE TRULY NOT CONCERNED WITH MEETING OUR DEADLINES.
11:00:30AM I WILL MOVE FORWARD.
11:00:35AM JUST AS A REMINDER, WE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ERECTED,
11:00:40AM ROUGHLY AROUND EIGHT.
11:00:43AM OUR PRIMARY GOAL TO MAKE THEIR OUR EVERYDAY SERVICES REMAIN
11:00:47AM INTACT.
11:00:47AM COLLECTION AND PROCESSING.
11:00:49AM ONE THING WE WILL HAVE TO ALMOST ADJUST IN REALTIME IS
11:00:53AM ACCESS TO THE TRANSFER STATION GIVEN THE FACT THAT THERE IS
11:00:56AM GOING TO BE SO MUCH CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AT THAT SITE.
11:00:58AM AND ONE OF THE CRITICAL PATHS IS THE SCALE HOUSES.
11:01:02AM SO WE HAVE A CURRENT SCALE HOUSE THAT HAS A FEW LANES.
11:01:05AM INCREASE THAT BY TWO.
11:01:07AM AND THEN WE ARE IMPROVING THAT SYSTEM BY INCORPORATING A
11:01:10AM NORTHERN SCALE HOUSE JUST FOR THE GARBAGE VEHICLES.
11:01:13AM THAT IS RIGHT, AS YOU CAN SEE, UP THERE ON THE
11:01:17AM POWERPOINT.
11:01:17AM THE NORTHERN SCALE.
11:01:18AM SO IT IS DIRECTLY UNDER, YOU KNOW, OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT
11:01:21AM FACILITY.
11:01:22AM A STRAIGHT SHOT STRAIGHT UP TO THE WASTE MANAGEMENT FACILITY
11:01:25AM ONE, YOU KNOW, WE DISPOSE OF OUR WASTE.
11:01:28AM WE TAKE THEM OUT OF THE LINE WITH THE PUBLIC WHICH IS GOING
11:01:32AM TO BE TEN TIMES BETTER.
11:01:33AM OUR FIRST PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT WE WILL BE COMPLETED
11:01:36AM IS THE NORTHERN SCALE HOUSE.
11:01:37AM SO THEN WE CAN KEEP SERVICE INTACT.
11:01:41AM AND THEN WE WILL SHIFT GEARS TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE
11:01:44AM SCALE HOUSES DOWN BELOW WHERE THE GENERAL PUBLIC USUALLY
11:01:48AM GOES TO.
11:01:48AM AND HOPEFULLY, WE CAN KEEP ONE OF OUR SCALES OPEN THERE.
11:01:51AM WE HAVE AN AUTOMATED SCALE THAT IS SEPARATED FROM THE MAIN
11:01:55AM BUILDING.
11:01:55AM WE WILL START WORKING ON THE MAIN BUILDING AND HAVE THAT
11:02:00AM AUTOMATED SCALE HOPEFULLY ABLE TO TAKE THE PUBLIC IN AND
11:02:03AM KEEP OUR TRANSFER STATION RUNNING.
11:02:06AM IT MAY BE A SLIGHT DELAY, BUT THAT IS THE FIRST PORTION OF
11:02:09AM THE PROJECT THAT WILL BE COMPLETED.
11:02:10AM AND MOVING FORWARD, SO I DO WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO BRING
11:02:15AM UP, AS ADRI MENTIONED BEFORE, THE FLEET BUILDING FOR THE
11:02:19AM SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT YOU CAN SEE ABOVE AS WELL.
11:02:21AM SO NEXT WEEK ACTUALLY, NEXT WEDNESDAY, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH
11:02:25AM THE CC&A PROCESS.
11:02:27AM WE HAVE FOUR FIRMS.
11:02:28AM BANDY, MORGAN, COCOLAKIS AND BILTMORE.
11:02:36AM >> MORE LOOKING FORWARD TO THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND ALL
11:02:40AM IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE TO BE COMPLETED BY 2027.
11:02:42AM C&G LOCATED AT THE FIRST LOCATION THAT WILL COME A
11:02:47AM LITTLE BIT LATER AFTER WE GET THE C.O. OR OUR ADMIN BUILDING
11:02:51AM BUT ALL PROJECTS WILL BE DONE IN 2027.
11:02:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:54AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND HENDERSON.
11:02:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:02:57AM WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS PROJECT, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF
11:03:01AM QUESTIONS.
11:03:01AM I JUST WANTED -- FOR THE PUBLIC FOR YOU TO GO OVER -- OR
11:03:05AM MIGHT -- YOU MIGHT BE OR MR. ROGERO OF THE $107 MILLION.
11:03:10AM MOST OF THAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN YOUR ENTERPRISE FUND.
11:03:15AM WE ARE NOT TAKING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS FOR THIS EXPANSION.
11:03:20AM I JUST WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC.
11:03:25AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: I WILL WAIT FOR THE CFO.
11:03:28AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, AGAIN, DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF
11:03:32AM FINANCIAL OFFICER.
11:03:32AM YOU ARE QUITE CORRECT, AND WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON
11:03:35AM THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
11:03:36AM BUT NOT GENERAL FUNDING, MA'AM.
11:03:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:03:39AM WANT PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHY WE ARE NOT PAYING THE $107.
11:03:45AM WASTE FEES WE ARE PAYING.
11:03:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOLID WASTE CHARGES.
11:03:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: RECYCLING, ALL OF THAT.
11:03:52AM ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
11:03:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST BRIEFLY.
11:03:54AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
11:03:55AM THIS IS THE ONE PROJECT THAT WE WERE -- I HAVE BEEN A PART
11:03:58AM OF FROM START TO FINISH.
11:04:00AM IT HAS A TIMELINE.
11:04:02AM IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE.
11:04:05AM MULTIPLE PROJECTS GOING ON.
11:04:06AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT IN EVERY WAY.
11:04:08AM EVEN -- YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THE BEGINNING UNDERSTANDING YOUR
11:04:13AM ALL AN ENTERPRISE ZONE -- ENTERPRISE BUSINESS.
11:04:16AM THE -- WHAT MAKES THIS SO GREAT IS THE ACCELERATION PROCESS
11:04:19AM IS VERY, VERY CLEAR.
11:04:21AM AND -- AND WELL-REPRESENTED.
11:04:23AM EVEN IN ALL OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS THAT WE HAD ABOUT IT.
11:04:27AM SO I COULD SEE WHY, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A NEED FOR TO YOU BE
11:04:31AM BRIEF TODAY.
11:04:31AM BECAUSE WE HAD THIS GREAT COMMUNICATION ALL ALONG.
11:04:34AM THIS IS JUST A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE FROM YOUR DIVISION OF A
11:04:39AM PROBABLY FROM START TO FINISH THAT I APPRECIATE.
11:04:42AM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
11:04:44AM >> I WILL SAY LARRY WASHINGTON GETS "BLANK" DONE.
11:04:52AM GETS IT DONE.
11:04:53AM GOOD JOB.
11:04:54AM SO -- SOME -- FURTHER CLARIFICATION REFERENCE ON WHAT
11:04:59AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
11:05:00AM SO PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS PROJECT INTRIGUING IS WE ARE
11:05:04AM GIVING UP RELATIVELY VALUABLE LAND ON SPRUCE.
11:05:08AM AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THAT LAND -- WE SELL THAT LAND.
11:05:12AM WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO?
11:05:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE KEEP THAT MONEY.
11:05:16AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND WILL YET
11:05:22AM TO BE DETERMINED.
11:05:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE SELL THAT LAND, BACK TO THE GENERAL
11:05:25AM FUND.
11:05:26AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
11:05:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY INTRIGUIKNG ABOUT THIS TOO.
11:05:28AM COST COMING OUT OF ENTERPRISE FUND AND PARLAY THIS VALUABLE
11:05:33AM LAND AND REIMBURSE OUR GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR THINGS LIKE
11:05:37AM FIRE STATIONS AND OTHER NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.
11:05:38AM THIS IS A WIN-WIN-WIN, AND LARRY WASHINGTON GETS "BLANK"
11:05:44AM DONE.
11:05:46AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: AND TEAM.
11:05:46AM IF YOU HAVE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I WILL MAKE ROOM FOR
11:05:50AM MR. TONY MULKEY.
11:05:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MULKEY.
11:05:54AM COME ON UP.
11:05:54AM GOOD MORNING.
11:05:55AM >>TONY MULKEY: GOOD MORNING.
11:05:56AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:05:57AM TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
11:06:00AM PLEASED TO BE HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE BOARD AS WELL
11:06:04AM AS THE COMMUNITY ON THE FAIR OAKS RECREATIONAL COMPLEX THAT
11:06:08AM IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
11:06:10AM HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN BEFORE YOU FOR ABOUT A YEAR ON THIS.
11:06:14AM A YEAR AGO, YOU APPROVED A NEARLY $35 MILLION CONSTRUCTION
11:06:20AM CONTRACT WITH SCANSKA AS PART OF A DESIGN BUILD PROJECT TO
11:06:25AM TRANSFORM THE EXISTING FAIR OAKS RECREATION CENTER INTO A --
11:06:30AM INTO A MULTIFEATURE, TEN-ACRE CAMPUS IN EAST TAMPA OFF 34th
11:06:37AM STREET.
11:06:37AM THIS NEW FACILITY IS GOING TO FEATURE A
11:06:44AM 33,000-SQUARE-FOOT DUAL FACILITY WITH A SENIOR CENTER AND
11:06:47AM COMMUNITY CENTER SIDE, AS WELL AS A SPLASH PAD, PICKLEBALL
11:06:50AM COURTS, BASKETBALL COURTS, SYNTHETIC TURF FOOTBALL FIELD,
11:06:56AM PLAY SPACES, COMMUNITY SPACE FOR EVENTS AND GATHERINGS.
11:07:00AM AND I AM HAPPY TO REPORT, THAT AS OF THIS TIME, WE ARE IN
11:07:05AM BUDGET AND ON SCHEDULE.
11:07:06AM SO WE HAVE A -- IT IS A PHASED APPROACH.
11:07:08AM THIS FIRST PHASE IS WORKING ON THE CENTER IF ANYBODY HAS
11:07:11AM GONE UP THROUGH FAIR OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THERE.
11:07:14AM YOU WILL SEE THE CENTER IS UP.
11:07:16AM THE WINDOWS ARE IN.
11:07:17AM THE DRYWALL IS GOING.
11:07:18AM IT IS -- IT IS QUITE IMPRESSIVE.
11:07:21AM THEY ARE GETTING READY TO START INSTALLING THE TURF FIELD.
11:07:26AM WHEN THIS PHASE WRAPS UP IN THE FALL.
11:07:31AM SECOND PHASE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING CENTER OUT THERE.
11:07:34AM OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOLKS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A PLAN
11:07:38AM TO START BEING ABLE TO LET THE COMMUNITY SEE SOME OF THE
11:07:41AM PROGRESS, WORKING WITH SCANSKA.
11:07:44AM THEY HAD OUTREACH TO THE KIDS AND THE SENIORS OVER AT THE
11:07:47AM CENTER.
11:07:47AM JUST REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY FOCUSED ENGAGEMENT AND ACTIVITIES
11:07:51AM WITH ICE CREAM AND THINGS LIKE THAT DURING THE SUMMER.
11:07:54AM SO WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING THIS ALONG AND
11:07:57AM WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE FOR EVERYONE AND ANSWER ANY
11:08:00AM QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:08:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:08:03AM DO YOU HAVE ANY SLIDES OR ANYTHING TO SHOW?
11:08:06AM >>TONY MULKEY: I -- I WAS A LATE ADDITION BECAUSE -- I
11:08:09AM WANTED TO KIND OF TELL THIS STORY BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A
11:08:12AM WHILE.
11:08:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM?
11:08:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DISTRICT FIVE, MAKING PROGRESS.
11:08:17AM I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
11:08:19AM YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ONE FROM START TO FINISH.
11:08:21AM THE COMMITMENT FROM SCANSKA TO GET IT DONE ON TIME AND
11:08:26AM WITHIN BUDGET IS EVEN A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH THEM.
11:08:29AM I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:08:30AM THIS IS A -- A PROJECT OF GREAT SYMBOLISM TO THE EAST TAMPA
11:08:37AM COMMUNITY.
11:08:37AM I KNOW THAT IT DIDN'T GET UNANIMOUS SUPPORT, BUT IT IS GOING
11:08:42AM TO BE A GREAT LEGACY PROJECT FOR EAST TAMPA.
11:08:48AM AND I APPRECIATE YOUR UPDATE.
11:08:50AM THANK YOU.
11:08:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:08:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:08:55AM I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT IN THE PAST AND WHAT YOU
11:08:58AM CONTINUE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
11:08:59AM GAME CHANGER FOR EVERYONE WHO IS YOUNG, ESPECIALLY.
11:09:02AM YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT YOU GROW UP BECOMING WHO YOU ARE.
11:09:07AM BUT WHAT YOU DO, ABOUT WHAT YOU HEAR, WHAT YOU SEE, AND
11:09:12AM HOW THEN YOU ACT.
11:09:13AM AND THIS IS GOING TO GIVE THESE YOUNG FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY
11:09:20AM TO BE THE BEST THEY CAN BE.
11:09:23AM THEY HAVE SOMETHING NEW.
11:09:25AM A VISION.
11:09:26AM REASON I SAY THAT -- I SAID THAT -- I WAS BORN NOT THERE,
11:09:30AM BUT CLOSE THERE 26th AVENUE.
11:09:33AM I WAS BORN THIS THERE RAISED -- BORN IN THE HOSPITAL BUT I
11:09:37AM WENT -- BUT ANYWAY, WHAT IT IS THAT HERE YOU SEE SOMETHING
11:09:42AM ABOUT COORDINATION, ABOUT WORKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE, ABOUT
11:09:47AM HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MANY THINGS THAT YOU COULDN'T DO
11:09:51AM IN ANY ONE PLACE IN THE WHOLE AREA.
11:09:53AM AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE.
11:09:58AM AND I LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND I SAY, YEAH, THE COST IS
11:10:03AM HIGH.
11:10:03AM BUT WHAT ARE THE RETURNS?
11:10:07AM MORE THAN LIKELY BETTER EDUCATION MORE THAN LIKELY BETTER
11:10:16AM CONTACT AND HOW YOU HANDLE.
11:10:23AM IT IS THE DAMN RIGHT THING TO DO SO EVERYBODY HAS WHAT THEY
11:10:26AM NEED.
11:10:29AM IT IS UP TO THEM TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.
11:10:32AM TO GIVE THEM HOPE AND OPPORTUNITY AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.
11:10:34AM AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING SO KIND WITH US.
11:10:37AM CONTINUE TO DO IT.
11:10:40AM WE HAVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF PARKS.
11:10:43AM OVER 90 SOME PARKS.
11:10:45AM MORE THAN THAT.
11:10:46AM BUT IT KEEPS GROWING BECAUSE THAT IS A NEED.
11:10:50AM KID HAVE TO BE HAPPY.
11:10:52AM KIDS HAVE -- THEY GO TO SCHOOL AND STUDY HARD, BUT YOU HAVE
11:10:55AM TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.
11:10:57AM IT JUST CAN'T BE ONE THING.
11:10:58AM AND TODAY IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DO, BECAUSE OF THINGS YOU
11:11:05AM SEE ON TELEVISION.
11:11:06AM WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT WHEN I WAS A KID.
11:11:07AM SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE STRESS AND THE IMAGINATION OF, WHOA,
11:11:12AM LOOK AT THAT, LOOK WHAT I SAW HERE AND THERE.
11:11:15AM YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT.
11:11:16AM BUT DID HAVE PLAYGROUNDS WHEN I WAS I WAS A KID AND MOST OF
11:11:22AM THE PEOPLE WHO WENT TO PLAYGROUND, 98% OF THEM WERE BETTER
11:11:27AM OFF WITH A PLAYGROUND THAN NOT HAVING A PLAYGROUND.
11:11:30AM I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT.
11:11:32AM >>TONY MULKEY: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:11:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:11:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T SPEAK ON THE LAST ITEM BUT I WANT
11:11:42AM TO THANK LARRY WASHINGTON AND HIS TEAM.
11:11:45AM THAT PROJECT HAS GONE ABOVE AVERAGE LIKE EVERYTHING HAVE
11:11:48AM FINDING NEW THINGS AND ALSO BECAUSE OF -- BECAUSE OF
11:11:51AM INFLATION, BUT HIS TEAM -- HE AND HIS TEAM HAS DONE A GREAT
11:11:56AM JOB COMMUNICATING.
11:11:56AM SAME THING WITH TONY AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
11:12:00AM I HAVE BEEN IN SEVERAL MEETINGS IN THE COMMUNITY WITH TONY
11:12:02AM AND HIS TEAM IN THE LAST EVEN FEW DAYS AND APPRECIATE WHAT
11:12:12AM THEY ARE DOING.
11:12:13AM THIS PROJECT IS ADMINISTRATION SLOW WALKING IT.
11:12:16AM FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO WHEN I CAME ON BOARD, THE COMMITTEE CAME
11:12:20AM AND ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING TO INTERVENE
11:12:23AM BECAUSE THE LAST MAYOR REJECTED IT.
11:12:25AM THE CURRENT MAYOR WAS UNINTERESTED IN DOING ANYTHING.
11:12:28AM WE CITY COUNCIL HAD A PUBLIC MEETING AT FAIR OAKS WHERE THE
11:12:31AM MAYOR ANNOUNCED SHE WAS GOING TO RENOVATE IT.
11:12:33AM PEOPLE BOOED IN THE MEETING AND SAID WE WANT YOU TO BUILD A
11:12:37AM NEW BUILDING.
11:12:37AM WE CAME BACK, CITY COUNCIL, AND PROPOSED BUILDING A NEW
11:12:40AM BUILDING AND STARTED PUSH TO ALLOCATE BECOME.
11:12:43AM MAYOR'S OFFICE SLOW WALKED IT FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND CAME BACK
11:12:46AM WITH A MUCH HIGHER PRICE.
11:12:47AM AND ULTIMATELY -- I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, $40
11:12:51AM MILLION PLUS INTEREST SOMEWHERE AROUND $70, $80 MILLION.
11:12:56AM GREAT ASSET FOR EAST TAMPA.
11:12:57AM EAST TAMPA DESERVES NEW ASSETS AND INVESTMENT THROUGH
11:13:02AM THE CRA AND OTHERS.
11:13:03AM EAST TAMPA WAS NEGLECTED FOR A LONG TIME.
11:13:06AM PARKS IN THE WHOLE CITY ARE FALLING APART.
11:13:08AM PARKS IN SOUTH TAMPA ARE ABSOLUTELY FALLING APART.
11:13:11AM ONLY WAY TO GET RENOVATION IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT THE COMMUNITY
11:13:15AM PUTS IN MONEY.
11:13:16AM PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED.
11:13:17AM SMALL RENOVATIONS, SMALL REPAIRS ARE NOT GETTING DONE
11:13:20AM BECAUSE THERE IS NO MONEY.
11:13:21AM THIS PARK IS LIKE -- SOMETHING LIKE EIGHT TIMES THE ANNUAL
11:13:25AM BUDGET FOR REPAIRING ALL THE PARKS IN THE CITY.
11:13:27AM PARKS IN EAST TAMPA ARE FALLING APART OTHER THAN THIS ONE.
11:13:30AM SO I WAS -- I THINK I WAS FIRST ONE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
11:13:36AM RENOVATE -- SORRY TO REBUILD THIS PROJECT SIX YEARS AGO.
11:13:39AM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE POLITICAL -- DID A POLITICAL MOVE AND
11:13:43AM WANTED TO ONE-UP US AND CAME WITH A HUGE PRICE FOR IT.
11:13:47AM A HUGE COST TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:13:48AM IT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND IT.
11:13:51AM THE REST OF EAST TAMPA AND THE REST OF THE CITY, THEIR PARK
11:13:55AM ALSO SUFFER BECAUSE THEY SPENT TOO MUCH ON ONE.
11:13:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:14:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:14:01AM THIS WILL BE A LOVELY PARK.
11:14:02AM I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY FOR EAST TAMPA BUT
11:14:09AM THROW A LITTLE CURVEBALL IN HERE BECAUSE WE ARE HERE AND WE
11:14:12AM ARE TALKING AND YOU ARE HERE.
11:14:15AM WE JUST SENT YOU AN E-MAIL OF SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL BEING
11:14:18AM OPENED IN JUNE OF 2025, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE STILL
11:14:21AM QUESTIONS OF SCOPE OF WORK AND COST ESTIMATE.
11:14:24AM I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WOULD KNOW MORE NEXT WEEK, BUT WHY
11:14:27AM HAVEN'T WE MOVED FORWARD ON THIS POOL?
11:14:30AM BECAUSE SOME -- I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET
11:14:32AM ANYTHING DONE BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE.
11:14:34AM >> SURE, PART OF THE CHALLENGE OF THE POOL HAS BEEN ENGAGING
11:14:40AM WITH QUALIFIED CONTRACTORS THAT COULD FOLLOW THROUGH WITH
11:14:42AM THINGS.
11:14:42AM THEY -- WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS WITH MULTIPLE
11:14:46AM FIRMS.
11:14:46AM I THINK THEY WERE TWO OR THREE PRIOR TO THE STORMS, AFTER
11:14:49AM THE STORMS, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP FROM THEM.
11:14:54AM WE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER FIRMS SINCE THEN.
11:14:56AM AND WE HAVE SOME PROPOSALS.
11:14:58AM AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REVIEWING RIGHT NOW TO GO THROUGH
11:15:01AM THAT.
11:15:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
11:15:02AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:15:03AM I AM CONCERNED IT WILL BE IN JEOPARDY FOR THE SUMMER, AND I
11:15:09AM THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT UP WHILE I HAVE YOU.
11:15:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:15:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OVER THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE.
11:15:15AM I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK.
11:15:17AM ALL DUE RESPECT TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND HIS VIEWPOINT,
11:15:21AM BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO ADDRESS OUR PARKS ARE NOT FALLING
11:15:26AM APART.
11:15:26AM IT IS AN UNFAIR ASSESSMENT.
11:15:29AM THERE ARE MAINTENANCE NEEDS THAT DO EXIST.
11:15:31AM I WANT YOU TO CLARIFY THAT.
11:15:32AM I DON'T THINK THAT IS A FAIR STATEMENT TO JUSTIFY THE HARD
11:15:36AM WORK GOING INTO PARKS AND RECREATION BECAUSE SO MANY
11:15:38AM DIFFERENT -- DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE NEEDS ACROSS PARKS.
11:15:42AM I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT WITHOUT IT
11:15:47AM JUST GIVEN A GENERIC STATEMENT THAT OUR PARKS ARE FALLING
11:15:50AM APART.
11:15:51AM ALSO, SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:15:52AM THIS IS -- THIS IS -- IN MY OPINION BASED ON WHAT WE ALREADY
11:15:57AM KNOW SO FAR.
11:15:58AM AND I WANT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE PARTLY OUR DISTRICT, RIGHT,
11:16:05AM CHARLIE.
11:16:05AM I THINK THE PROBLEM AT SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL IS A LOT DEEPER
11:16:15AM THAN WHAT WE CAN PROBABLY SAY AND YOUR FINDING A DIFFICULT
11:16:18AM TIME FINDING SOMEONE TO COMMIT TO IT BECAUSE OF THE LAND IS
11:16:22AM ITSELF.
11:16:22AM AND THE FACT THAT A POOL SHOULDN'T REALLY BE ON THAT LAND.
11:16:26AM I KNOW YOU CAN'T SAY IT, BECAUSE I AM NOT AFRAID TO SAY IT
11:16:29AM BECAUSE I AM IN A POSITION TO SAY THAT.
11:16:34AM I SAID THAT TO THE PUBLIC RECENTLY AT A SULPHUR SPRINGS
11:16:37AM MEETING.
11:16:37AM I THINK THE PROBLEM IS A LOT GREATER.
11:16:39AM I KNOW IT WILL BE GREAT FOR THEM TO HAVE A POOL BY THE
11:16:42AM SUMMER AND THE MAYOR, I BELIEVE, ADDED $1 MILLION TO HER
11:16:46AM BUDGET BECAUSE DURING THAT SAME PERIOD TO ADDRESS SULPHUR
11:16:49AM SPRINGS POOL, BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME GREATER CHALLENGES
11:17:02AM THERE THAT WILL BE EXTREMELY COSTLY AND TO RETURN A POOL
11:17:05AM TO THAT GROUND BECAUSE OF THE LAND ITSELF THAT IT SITS ON.
11:17:07AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT PART NOW, BUT I WANTED
11:17:10AM TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT, ALONG WITH -- YOU CAN NOW TALK ABOUT
11:17:14AM PARKS FALLING APART.
11:17:15AM AND JUST -- YOU KNOW, FOR A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY TOO, WHEN
11:17:19AM IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, PARKS, BECAUSE GREAT THINGS HAPPEN IN
11:17:25AM PARKS.
11:17:26AM AND YOU KNOW, I GREW UP GOING TO A PARK I THINK I AM
11:17:36AM IRRITATING SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE.
11:17:38AM BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT HAPPENS WITHIN
11:17:41AM THE TIMELINES THAT YOU PRESENTED AND ON THE THINGS YOU ARE
11:17:44AM WORKING ON IS IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:17:47AM I DON'T WANT TO DISMISS IT.
11:17:49AM WHAT EAST TAMPA IS GETTING.
11:17:51AM YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO FEEL IN OTHER
11:17:54AM PARTS OF TOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DESERVE SOMETHING TOO.
11:17:57AM THIS IS REALLY IN MY MIND AND OPINION DUE IN PART TO THE
11:18:05AM SIGNIFICANT DELAYS OVER DECADES -- DECADES OF NOT ADDRESSING
11:18:10AM THE NEEDS IN EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE GETTING
11:18:12AM SOMETHING GREAT.
11:18:13AM HOWEVER, IT STARTED FROM WHERE THEY ARE NOW TO WHERE IT IS
11:18:17AM GOING, IT IS QUITE WELL DESERVED.
11:18:22AM THANK YOU.
11:18:23AM >>TONY MULKEY: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
11:18:28AM ON THE POOL, THAT'S WHY WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
11:18:31AM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.
11:18:33AM I AM NOT QUALIFIED TO SPEAK WHETHER IT IS A GOOD LOCATION OR
11:18:36AM NOT.
11:18:36AM IT HAS ITS CHALLENGES.
11:18:38AM AND I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT AND WE HAVE BEEN UP-FRONT
11:18:41AM WITH THAT.
11:18:41AM AS FAR AS THE MAINTENANCE CONCERNS WITH THE PARKS, WE -- WE
11:18:45AM HAVE A VERY DEDICATED TEAM THAT HAS BEEN MAKING HUGE STRIDES
11:18:49AM IN TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND
11:18:52AM ITEMS WITHIN THE PARKS.
11:18:54AM WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:18:56AM YOU KNOW, SOME ARE DIRECT FUNDED THROUGH OUR C.I.T.
11:19:01AM INVESTMENT WITH OUR CAPITAL PLANS.
11:19:03AM SOME ARE PARTNERSHIPS.
11:19:03AM AND OTHER AGREEMENTS THAT WERE ABLE TO TRY TO BE CREATIVE
11:19:07AM AND BE BEVERAGED AND GET MORE DONE.
11:19:09AM A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF OUTLINED.
11:19:12AM AND SUMMARIZED THROUGH OUR MASTER PLAN PROCESS THAT WE WENT
11:19:16AM THROUGH IN 2020, 2021, AND KIND OF HAS A PLAN FOR US TO MOVE
11:19:20AM FORWARD, BUT IT IS, AGAIN, PRETTY GENERIC.
11:19:25AM I LIKE TO THINK THE PARKS ARE PRETTY NICE, AND WE HAVE A
11:19:28AM DEDICATED TEAM TO KEEP THEM AT THE LEVEL THEY CAN.
11:19:31AM BUT THE PUBLIC LOVES OUR PARKS TO DEATH SOMETIMES.
11:19:34AM AND THEY GET USED VERY HEAVILY AND SHOWS DEMAND THAT THE
11:19:38AM COMMUNITY HAS.
11:19:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I FINISH THIS, TOO, TO WRAP UP FAIR
11:19:43AM OAKS?
11:19:44AM I KNOW YOUR LIGHT IS ON.
11:19:45AM EVEN FAIR OAKS, WHAT I DO LOVE IS THAT EVEN THE CURRENT
11:19:49AM BUILDING IS STILL OPERATIONAL.
11:19:51AM GREAT PROGRAMING IS STILL HAPPENING.
11:19:53AM MY FAVORITE TEACHER FROM HIGH SCHOOL TEACHES LINE DANCE
11:19:56AM THERE WEEKLY.
11:19:58AM THE CLASSES ARE FULL.
11:19:59AM EVEN THOUGH IT IS -- THE NEW PARK IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND
11:20:03AM GOING WELL, THE CURRENT FACILITY IS STILL BEING USED AND
11:20:07AM ALSO IMPORTANT TO MENTION.
11:20:08AM THANK YOU.
11:20:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:20:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY AND I KIND OF SAID THIS
11:20:14AM BEFORE, TONY AND HIS TEAM DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
11:20:17AM AND IF I AM CORRECT, YOU HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PARKS.
11:20:23AM PARK AND RECREATION.
11:20:24AM AND HE IS EXACTLY QUALIFIED.
11:20:26AM HE IS THE RIGHT PERSON.
11:20:27AM HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB.
11:20:28AM PROBLEM IS THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T GIVE HIM ENOUGH
11:20:31AM BUDGET.
11:20:31AM WE HAD ONE ADMINISTRATION THAT FACED A GREAT RECESSION AND
11:20:34AM HAD TO CUT THE BUDGETS.
11:20:35AM NEXT ADMINISTRATION GAVE MONEY TO DEVELOPERS INSTEAD OF
11:20:39AM REPAIRING PARKS OR ROADS.
11:20:41AM AND THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN STRIVING TO CATCH UP, BUT
11:20:43AM THE BUDGET IS STILL TOO LOW.
11:20:46AM WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF HOW WE SPEND MONEY.
11:20:48AM AND THERE ARE PARKS THAT ARE LITERALLY FALLING APART.
11:20:51AM THINGS ARE FALLING ON KIDS' HEADS AND OTHERS.
11:20:54AM I CAN -- I -- THE OPINION OF PARKS FALLING APART IS NOT MY
11:20:59AM OPINION.
11:20:59AM IT IS THE E-MAILS I GET FROM CONSTITUENTS AND POSTS
11:21:03AM THAT CONSTITUENTS PUT ON -- ON NEXT DOOR AND OTHER PLACES.
11:21:07AM AND I AM SURE YOU HAVE ALL SEEN THEM, IF YOU HAVEN'T, I CAN
11:21:11AM HAVE MY AIDE PUT TOGETHER SOME OF THEM.
11:21:14AM I SENT THEM TO TONY, AND HE IS ALWAYS RESPONSIVE.
11:21:16AM HE DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE THE BUDGET TO FIX THEM.
11:21:18AM AS WE GET THROUGH PRIORITIES, YOU TALKED OF HOW IMPORTANT
11:21:21AM PARKS, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT AND PARKS ARE IMPORTANT
11:21:25AM IN EAST TAMPA.
11:21:26AM EAST TAMPA WILL HAVE THE BEST PARK IN THE WHOLE CITY WHICH I
11:21:29AM AM HAPPY FOR.
11:21:29AM THEY COULD HAVE HAD THE BEST PARK IN THE CITY FOR 20 MILLION
11:21:33AM INSTEAD OF $70 MILLION.
11:21:34AM AND WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TO -- TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE
11:21:39AM BUDGET GOING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT WE DON'T HAVE
11:21:43AM ONE REALLY NICE PARK AND OTHER ONE FALLING DOWN.
11:21:46AM KEEP IN MIND THE LAST ADMINISTRATION SPENT $12 MILLION ON A
11:21:50AM BOATHOUSE COMPETES WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
11:21:54AM THE PARK JULIAN B. LANE WOULD HAVE BEEN CHEAPER IF NOT SPENT
11:22:00AM MONEY ON THE POETHOUSE.
11:22:01AM WE NEED TO MAKE BETTER CHOICES BECAUSE KIDS NEED TO FEEL
11:22:05AM SAFE IN GOING TO THEIR PARKS.
11:22:06AM THANK YOU.
11:22:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:22:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:22:10AM I JUST -- LISTENING AND LISTENING AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
11:22:16AM THE FACTS, BUT MANY TIMES THAT I HEARD THAT THE PARK IS A
11:22:20AM $100 MILLION PARK.
11:22:21AM SO THEN I TELL MYSELF, WOW, I SAID, $40 MILLION WITH
11:22:29AM INTEREST IS $100 OR $70, $80, $60 OR WHATEVER.
11:22:32AM WHEN YOU BUY ANY EQUIPMENT IN THE CITY AND YOU BOND IT OUT,
11:22:38AM YOU DON'T SAY COSTS THE PRICE PLUS THE INTEREST.
11:22:41AM RAISE OUR HANDS IF YOU EVER DONE THAT.
11:22:43AM NEVER HAS THAT BEEN DONE.
11:22:44AM BUT WHEN YOU PUT A PARK UP, THEY WANT TO TELL YOU IT IS THE
11:22:49AM INTEREST ON IT.
11:22:50AM THEY TELL YOU WHEN YOU BUY AN ELECTRIC CAR OR FIRE ENGINE,
11:22:56AM WHEN YOU BUILD A BUILDING FOR OTHER THINGS.
11:22:58AM THEY DON'T TELL YOU THAT.
11:23:00AM BUT FOR A PARK, FOR KIDS TO PLAY IN, THE INTEREST THAT COMES
11:23:04AM IN.
11:23:04AM I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST SPOKE BEFORE
11:23:07AM ME.
11:23:07AM IN GENERAL.
11:23:08AM SO WHAT ARE WE SENDING?
11:23:10AM WHAT MESSAGE ARE WE SEND SOMETHING IN THAT KIDS SHOULD HAVE
11:23:13AM A PARK WHERE THEY COULD BE PROUD OF.
11:23:17AM JOYFUL OF.
11:23:18AM IF IT WASN'T FOR THE SKATING PARK, MOST OF THE KIDS IN THE
11:23:22AM HOUSING PROJECT WOULD BE IN JAIL.
11:23:23AM BUT THEY ARE NOT.
11:23:25AM SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD -- FROM NOW ON
11:23:34AM EVERY TIME WE BUY SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE TO FINANCE IT,
11:23:38AM DON'T SAY THE PRICE WAS -- PUT THE WHOLE PRICE IN IT BECAUSE
11:23:43AM THAT'S WHAT WE WANT WHEN WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
11:23:47AM COST OF SOMETHING DOES INCLUDE INTEREST.
11:23:50AM NO DOUBT ABOUT IT UNLESS YOU CAN PAY IT OFF IN 30 DAYS.
11:23:53AM BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
11:23:55AM I UNDERSTAND ABOUT ELECTIONS.
11:23:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I SAY, IF I MAY SIR.
11:24:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:24:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:24:08AM I WAS GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS.
11:24:10AM THIS -- THIS IS NOT IN MY DISTRICT BUT SURE AS HELL IN MY
11:24:15AM HEART.
11:24:15AM A GREAT EFFORT.
11:24:16AM IT IS GOING -- A PARK LIKE THIS WHICH IS A ROBUST,
11:24:21AM FIRST-RATE ENDEAVOR IN THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY IS A REAL
11:24:25AM STATEMENT.
11:24:26AM I THINK THAT WE WANT TO SEND AS A CITY ON OUR VALUES.
11:24:30AM AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO PUT PARKS AND RECREATION IN PARTS OF
11:24:35AM CITY THAT -- THAT IT IS NOT JUST IGNORED BUT MALIGNED AND
11:24:40AM ATTACKED THROUGHOUT MANY, MANY YEARS.
11:24:42AM I SAID THIS BEFORE IF YOU READ KEENER COMMERCIAL REPORT
11:24:45AM FROM, I THINK, '67, IT TALKED OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AREAS
11:24:50AM IN TAMPA AND HOW THEY HAD NO RECREATION CENTERS.
11:24:53AM SO FOR ME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOES BACK A VERY LONG
11:24:57AM TIME.
11:24:57AM AND ITS JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
11:24:59AM SO, AGAIN, I WILL GO BACK TO THE THICK ON THERE BEING GRAY.
11:25:04AM ALWAYS GRAY IN SOMETHING BUT THE OVERWHELMING GOOD LIES IN
11:25:08AM THIS AND I WAS GLAD TO SUPPORT IT AGAIN.
11:25:10AM THANK YOU.
11:25:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MULKEY.
11:25:14AM >>TONY MULKEY: THANK YOU.
11:25:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO IS NEXT.
11:25:16AM >>RORY JONES: GOOD MORNING, RORY JONES WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
11:25:20AM I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON OUR CHEMICAL
11:25:24AM SYSTEMS IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
11:25:25AM THIS A PIPES-FUNDED PROJECT.
11:25:27AM IT IS A $41 MILLION PROJECT DESIGN-BUILD, PIPES FUNDED THAT
11:25:34AM MAKES THE CITY OF TAMPA SAFER AND MORE RESILIENT END-OF-LIFE
11:25:49AM COMPONENT WITH OTHER SECONDARY DISINFECTION PROCESS AND
11:25:55AM BUILDINGS HYPOCHLORIDE GENERATORS.
11:25:57AM THIS PROBABLY HAD A EBO GOl OF 14.8%.
11:26:01AM AND WE ARE ON -- ON SCHEDULE TO MEET THAT GOAL.
11:26:06AM THIS WAS PERFORMED IN TWO DIFFERENT PHASES.
11:26:08AM MAINTAINING 365-DAY, SEVEN DAY AS WEEK OPERATION THERE IS.
11:26:14AM WE ARE KIND OF WORKING IN AND AROUND OUR EXIST FACILITIES.
11:26:21AM SO THE FIRST PHASE WAS REALLY DECOMMISSIONING AND GETTING TO
11:26:29AM THE POINT TO DECOMMISSION OUR EXISTING CHEMICAL USE AND
11:26:32AM BRING IN BULK DELIVERIES FOR THE HYPOCHLORIDE PROCESS WHEN
11:26:42AM WE MOVE TO PHASE TWO AND CONDUCT THE ON-SITE GENERATORS.
11:26:46AM IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
11:26:47AM WE HAVE DECOMMISSIONED OUR 90-TON RAILCAR SYSTEM.
11:26:53AM DECOMMISSIONED THE SPUR LINE LEADING INTO THERE.
11:26:57AM AND WE ARE ACT STIFFLY IN CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE
11:27:02AM ON-SITE HYPOCHLORIDE GENERATORS.
11:27:04AM IN ADDITION TO HYPOCHLORIDE CHANGING FROM HYDRO AMMONIA TO
11:27:11AM AMMONIA.
11:27:12AM WE EXPECT TO HAVE THESE GENERATORS START TO GO INTO THE
11:27:15AM BUILDING IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS IN APRIL.
11:27:17AM WE WILL START COMMISSION THESE IN OCTOBER.
11:27:21AM AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE THIS PROJECT COMPLETED BY THE END OF
11:27:25AM THE YEAR.
11:27:25AM I AM EXCITED ABOUT IT.
11:27:26AM AND I AM OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OF IT.
11:27:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, YES, SIR.
11:27:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO SAY JUST LIKE AS WELL SOLID
11:27:39AM WASTE.
11:27:39AM YOU GUYS ARE INCREDIBLE.
11:27:43AM THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON.
11:27:46AM THEY ARE REALLY -- THIS IS NOT SEXY BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T SEE
11:27:49AM IT.
11:27:49AM PEOPLE TURN ON WATER FAUCET AND EXPECT CLEAN WATER.
11:27:53AM THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MAGIC YOU DO BEHIND THE SCENES.
11:27:57AM AND WHAT WE ARE REPLACING THE AGE OF THE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT
11:28:01AM WE ARE PLACING UP HERE AT TIPPIN ARE JUST -- YOU GUYS HAVE
11:28:05AM TAKEN OUT -- HOW OLD WERE THOSE WATER PUMPS YOU REPLACED.
11:28:10AM >>RORY JONES: NEAR 100 YEARS OLD AND WE DECOMMISSION THEM LAST
11:28:14AM WEEK AND MOVING TOWARD STARTING THE OFFICIAL BUTTON ON ALL NEW PUMPS.
11:28:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THINK OF THIS.
11:28:20AM MECHANICAL WATER PUMPS 100 YEARS OLD USING AND DEPENDENT
11:28:27AM UPON.
11:28:27AM RESILIENT.
11:28:28AM WE HAVE ALL THIS EQUIPMENT UP THERE THAT THEY ARE IMPROVING
11:28:30AM AND MAKING THESE THINGS MORE RESILIENT.
11:28:33AM THEY ARE GOING TO NEWER TECHNOLOGY, SAFER TECHNOLOGY SO WE
11:28:36AM ARE NOT TRANSPORTING HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS.
11:28:39AM THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IS JUST INCREDIBLE.
11:28:42AM THIS IS PART OF THE MAYOR'S PIPE PROBABLY THAT EVERY CITY IN
11:28:46AM THE COUNTRY WOULD BE ENVIOUS OF THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS OF
11:28:51AM THAT PICK PROJECT AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS BEING
11:28:54AM DONE NOT JUST AT TIPPIN BUT AROUND THE CITY.
11:28:56AM NOT SEXY BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT.
11:28:59AM NOT JUST THIS -- IT IS NOT A RIVER WALK OR NOT A BEAUTIFUL
11:29:02AM BUILDING OR NOT A -- THIS BIG INFRASTRUCTURE -- BIG PUBLIC
11:29:07AM PARK, BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT, PEOPLE THAT -- THAT WATER IS SEXY.
11:29:11AM >>RORY JONES: I AGREE.
11:29:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE THE FACT OF THE WORK YOU GUYS
11:29:16AM ARE DOING.
11:29:16AM YOU ARE INCREDIBLE.
11:29:17AM PROJECTS YOU ARE WORKING ON IS INCREDIBLE.
11:29:20AM I, FOR ONE, IS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR TEAM AND WHAT YOU
11:29:25AM DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE FUTURE OF CITY OF TAMPA.
11:29:27AM YOU ARE CARVING OUT A FUTURE FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS.
11:29:30AM >>RORY JONES: I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.
11:29:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER.
11:29:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR FINE REPORT.
11:29:38AM HE IS NOT GOING TO BRING IT UP, BUT THIS ONE OF THE BETTER
11:29:41AM DEPARTMENTS IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY, I BELIEVE, IN WATER.
11:29:45AM WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT RATE -- ONLY A FEW INDIVIDUALS IN THE
11:29:51AM WHOLE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ENTITIES THAT HAVE An AAA
11:29:56AM RATING IN STOCK MARKET.
11:29:56AM AM I CORRECT?
11:29:58AM >>RORY JONES: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:30:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE OF THEM.
11:30:01AM >>RORY JONES: ONE OF EIGHT.
11:30:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE OF EIGHT, IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY?
11:30:06AM HOW MANY WATER SYSTEMS DO YOU HAVE IN THE COUNTRY.
11:30:09AM >> HOW MANY WATER SYSTEMS?
11:30:11AM THOUSANDS.
11:30:11AM THOUSANDS.
11:30:12AM EVERY CITY.
11:30:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW IF THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT.
11:30:16AM YOU DELIVER ON TIME, ON BUDGET.
11:30:20AM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COME AND SAY, HOW ARE YOU DOING IT?
11:30:24AM WHY ARE YOU DOING IT THAT WAY?
11:30:26AM AND YOU GUY -- NOT YOU -- I SEE MR. BAIRD.
11:30:31AM BEFORE THAT MR. TIPPIN.
11:30:34AM CAN'T GO 100 YEARS BECAUSE CLENDENIN WILL JUMP ON ME THAT I
11:30:38AM AM 105.
11:30:39AM I KNOW HOW HE IS.
11:30:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO BACK TO TALK ABOUT WHEN THE FIRST WATER
11:30:43AM WAS CREATED.
11:30:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT WAS THERE AND IT WASN'T THAT GOOD
11:30:47AM EITHER.
11:30:47AM WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.
11:30:48AM ALL OF YOU -- MEN AND WOMEN -- EVEN THOSE THAT CHECK THE
11:30:52AM METERS.
11:30:52AM SAY THIS.
11:30:53AM TALKING OF METERS.
11:30:54AM METERS DO NOT RUN FAST.
11:30:56AM THE REASON YOU CHANGE METERS IS BECAUSE THEY RUN SLOW.
11:31:00AM >>RORY JONES: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:31:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT HAPPENS IN THE METERS.
11:31:02AM SOMETIMES THERE IS A LEAK.
11:31:04AM AND IT IS -- SOMETIMES ONE SIDE METER OR THE OTHER SIDE.
11:31:08AM THAT IS HISTORY.
11:31:09AM THE GROUND SHAKES AND MOVEMENT OR TRUCKS OR SOMETHING.
11:31:13AM THAT CAUSES THAT.
11:31:14AM BUT -- BUT THE WATER DEPARTMENT OF TAMPA IS UNIQUE.
11:31:17AM IT IS EXCELLENT.
11:31:19AM AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SERVICE TO ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN
11:31:21AM THAT WORK THERE.
11:31:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:24AM >>RORY JONES: APPRECIATE IT.
11:31:27AM NOT A ONE-MAN SHOW.
11:31:28AM OUR TEAM AND SUPPORT FROM YOU GUYS.
11:31:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:31:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DISAGREE WITH OBVIOUSLY MANY THINGS THAT
11:31:35AM THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE, BUT PIPES PROGRAM, I AGREE
11:31:37AM WITH.
11:31:38AM AND I SUPPORT IT.
11:31:39AM I STILL SUPPORT IT.
11:31:40AM I THINK IT WAS PROACTIVE.
11:31:42AM AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT AS MY COLLEAGUE SAYS PEOPLE
11:31:49AM NECESSARILY SEE AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE FRUSTRATED BY ROADS
11:31:51AM BEING SHUT DOWN PREEMPTIVELY REPLACING PIPES WE ARE
11:31:57AM PREVENTING ACCIDENTAL ROAD CLOSURES.
11:32:01AM IN THIS SYSTEM, THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH AND UPGRADED
11:32:06AM TECHNOLOGIES AND PUT IN MORE ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY AND I CAN
11:32:08AM THAT -- THEY HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE ABOUT THAT AND A VERY SMART
11:32:11AM THING.
11:32:12AM RORY IS EXACTLY THE RIGHT PERSON TO BE RUNNING THIS
11:32:15AM DEPARTMENT.
11:32:15AM HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.
11:32:16AM HE AND HIS TEAM ARE INCREDIBLY RESPONSIVE TO CONSTITUENTS.
11:32:21AM AND LOOKING AT.
11:32:24AM SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO TWICE.
11:32:25AM I WILL SAY SAME THING ABOUT HIM.
11:32:30AM MAYBE I SAID THIS BEFORE, WE WERE IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
11:32:34AM FOUND THAT WASTEWATER FLOODED THE WHOLE STREET.
11:32:37AM WITHIN AN HOUR ERIC HAD A SANITIZING TRUCK GOING DOWN THE
11:32:41AM STREET.
11:32:41AM I THINK 45 MINUTES AND SO INCREDIBLY IMPRESSIVE HOW BOTH OF
11:32:44AM THEM RESPOND SO WELL TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE PROACTIVE
11:32:48AM AND COMMUNICATIVE.
11:32:50AM I WANT TO THANK THEM BOTH AND THEIR TEAMS FOR THEIR
11:32:53AM RESPONSES.
11:32:53AM THANK YOU.
11:32:54AM >> APPRECIATE THAT.
11:32:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:57AM GOING INTO THURSDAYS EACH WEEK IS AN ADVENTURE IN THESE
11:33:01AM CHAMBERS, AND I AM GLAD WE ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH ALL
11:33:04AM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TODAY BECAUSE MULKEY, WASHINGTON,
11:33:09AM DUNCAN, EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN IN TODAY GOES TO SHOW HOW
11:33:12AM LUCKY WE ARE TO HAVE YOUR LEADERSHIP, ALL OF YOU.
11:33:14AM YOU RUN GREAT DEPARTMENTS.
11:33:15AM YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
11:33:16AM AS MENTIONED WATER IS NOT SEXY.
11:33:18AM THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT IF THEY ARE WATCHING THEY KNOW ABOUT
11:33:26AM BUT OTHER THAN THAT THEY DON'T KNOW.
11:33:27AM REPLACING THINGS THAT 100 YEARS OLD.
11:33:30AM WHEN I COULDN'T SLEEP AND WHICH IS COMMON AND WORTHYING
11:33:36AM ABOUT MONEY.
11:33:37AM MAYOR CURTIS HIXON AND A WASTEWATER SEWAGE PIPE PROJECT AT
11:33:42AM 15TH.
11:33:42AM AND WHAT WAS BUFFALO AVENUE WHICH IS MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
11:33:44AM SO WHEN I DON'T SLEEP, YOU KNOW, THIS -- THIS IS WHAT I DO.
11:33:48AM I CAN'T STOP WORKING OR THINKING ABOUT WORK.
11:33:51AM BUT A COMPLIMENT TO THIS ADMINISTRATION AND YOUR LEADERSHIP
11:33:55AM AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IS THAT NO MAY I DON'T REMEMBER
11:33:59AM BEFORE -- I WENT BACK TO HIXON.
11:34:04AM A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
11:34:06AM I WENT BACK TO NUCCIO.
11:34:08AM ANY MAYOR BEFORE OR AFTER CAN TOUCH THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT
11:34:13AM WE HAVE BEEN MAKING WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND
11:34:16AM COMES TO THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T SEE.
11:34:18AM PIPES ARE HISTORICAL.
11:34:19AM MAYOR BUCKHORN, $215 MILLION FOR ONE MAJOR PROJECT.
11:34:25AM THIS IS A MULTIBILLION DOLLAR PROJECT ON TOP OF EVERYTHING
11:34:28AM ELSE.
11:34:28AM I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD BE APPLAUDED FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THE
11:34:31AM -- FOR THE SPEEDINESS OF GETTING THESE THINGS DONE.
11:34:36AM PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT AND PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW AND I HOPE THEY
11:34:39AM APPRECIATE IT.
11:34:40AM SOMETHING THAT IF YOU TURN FAUCET ON, YOU EXPECT CLEAN, SAFE
11:34:45AM WATER AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
11:34:47AM A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CITY AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT ONE.
11:34:53AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND MR. WEISS YOU AS WELL.
11:34:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MIGHT AND WITH TO FIND ANOTHER ACRONYM
11:35:01AM AFTER DAVID TIFFIN.
11:35:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WTF.
11:35:07AM THAT IS ON THE SLIDE.
11:35:08AM MR. WISE, ANYTHING TO ADD.
11:35:11AM >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT I CAN DO REAL QUICK.
11:35:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE, COME ON UP.
11:35:17AM >>ERIC WEISS: ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
11:35:24AM PIPES PROGRAM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS OUR WASTEWATER PUMPING
11:35:28AM STATIONS.
11:35:28AM I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY AND
11:35:35AM DIRECT IMPACTS DURING THE STORMS.
11:35:36AM WE HAVE 228 WASTEWATER PUMPING STATIONS THAT TAKE THE
11:35:40AM WASTEWATER FROM HOMES, BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS AND GO TO OUR
11:35:43AM WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
11:35:44AM DIFFERENT THAN THE STORMWATER PUMPS, OKAY.
11:35:48AM WHY SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY IS IMPORTANT IN THE PIPES
11:35:53AM PROGRAM WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUMP STATION IS, ANYTHING
11:35:57AM BEFORE 1970, ALL ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND PITCHES WERE BELOW
11:36:02AM GRADE IN A BASEMENT.
11:36:04AM OBVIOUSLY WITH SEA LEVEL RISE AND HURRICANES, WATER GETS IN
11:36:08AM THERE AND BURNS THEM OUT.
11:36:09AM SO EVERY DESIGN WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW HAS REALLY THREE MAIN
11:36:13AM THINGS.
11:36:13AM ONE, IT HAS ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, LOW GRADE.
11:36:16AM WE BRING IT UP.
11:36:17AM ONE FOOT ABOVE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.
11:36:21AM ANY PUMPS, MAKE THEM WATER PROOF.
11:36:24AM THIRDLY WHICH IS MOST IMPORTANT REPUT A STATIONARY BY PASS
11:36:29AM IN CASE TECO POWER GETS LOSS.
11:36:31AM A NEW DIESEL PUMP WILL KEEP IT RUNNING THROUGHOUT THE STORM.
11:36:35AM CURRENTLY WE HAVE 28 PROJECTS THAT ARE REHABILITATION OF
11:36:41AM PUMPING STATIONS.
11:36:42AM ABOUT $48 MILLION.
11:36:43AM IT IS GOING WELL.
11:36:45AM I JUST WANTED -- ONE MORE QUICK LEAD IS BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS
11:36:50AM RUNNING LATE.
11:36:50AM OOPS, SORRY.
11:36:52AM SO DURING THE STORM, THESE LAST TWO HURRICANES, WE HAD SEVEN
11:36:57AM WASTEWATER PUMPING STATIONS THAT GOT FLOODED OUT AND
11:37:00AM SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE.
11:37:01AM SO WHAT WE ARE DOING, IF YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE ON THE
11:37:06AM LEFT, THAT IS 18th STREET WASTEWATER PUMPING STATION.
11:37:09AM SO NORTH 18th STREET.
11:37:12AM EAST 97TH AVENUE, THAT IS OUR PUMPING STATION IN THE MIDDLE
11:37:17AM OF THE POND BECAUSE IT GOT SO FLOODED.
11:37:19AM OKAY.
11:37:20AM WHAT WE ARE DOING -- HOPEFULLY BY THE NEXT RAINY SEASON HERE
11:37:24AM ALREADY WE WILL DO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT LIGHT.
11:37:26AM WE ARE USING OUR IN-HOUSE ELECTRICIANS, ENGINEERS, ON THE
11:37:31AM ROOF OF THAT FACILITY AND FOR TO TOTAL OF SEVEN.
11:37:34AM WE ARE PUTTING UP NEW ELECTRICAL PANELS, BUILDING THEM
11:37:38AM OURSELVES AND PUTTING IT ABOVE 100-YEAR FLOODPLAIN.
11:37:42AM CHANGING OUT THE PUMPS.
11:37:44AM I CALL IT CIP LIGHT.
11:37:46AM NOT A FULL PROJECT BUT COST $2 MILLION OR $3 MILLION.
11:37:50AM $400,000 FOR ALL THEM AND IF GET US THROUGH THE NEXT RAINY
11:37:57AM SEASON BECAUSE HE DON'T WANT THE SAME THING TO HAPPEN THAT
11:38:00AM HAPPENED THE LAST TIME WITH WASTEWATER.
11:38:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND CLENDENIN.
11:38:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT
11:38:08AM DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
11:38:10AM AND THAT IS TO TAKE PEOPLE TO YOUR WASTEWATER PLANT, TO THE
11:38:14AM WATER PLANT, AND TO IT THE REFUGE ENERGY PLANT SO PUBLIC
11:38:19AM UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN THE MAJORITY OF A CITY.
11:38:21AM YOU SEE GLAMOUR OF THINGS ON TV.
11:38:23AM BUT YOU DON'T SEE THESE THINGS THAT REALLY WITHOUT THEM, YOU
11:38:27AM COULDN'T HAVE A CITY WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO AN AGREEMENT
11:38:35AM HOMEOWNER AND SAVE ASSOCIATION THAT MEETS ON WEDNESDAY AND
11:38:37AM THURSDAY.
11:38:37AM WE HAVE A BUS.
11:38:39AM WE TAKE THE BUS.
11:38:40AM AND I'M WORKING ON SOME FINANCING TO GET A LUNCH BOX SO THEY
11:38:47AM CAN SPEND THE AFTERNOON LOOKING AT YOUR PLACE.
11:38:49AM WHAT YOU GUY DO, ALL OF YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE WATER
11:38:56AM PLANTS AND WASTE ENERGY.
11:38:58AM AND THE REFUGE TO ENERGY.
11:39:03AM THOSE THREE ITEMS ARE POSH TO ANY CITY AND WILL PUT OUR
11:39:06AM THREE AGAINST ANYBODY IN THE COUNTRY.
11:39:08AM BECAUSE WE CAN CERTAINLY BE BE THERE AND TELL THE PUBLIC
11:39:15AM WHAT WE ARE DOING HOW WE ARE DOING.
11:39:19AM WATER, FLUSHING THE TOILET TRUCKS UP ADAMO DROVE.
11:39:26AM THAT IS ALL YOU SEE.
11:39:28AM IT IS NOT ENOUGH.
11:39:29AM THEY WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE WORK THAT ALL OF YOU DO IN
11:39:32AM THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS.
11:39:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:39:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION.
11:39:38AM WHEN WE HAVE INUNDATION LIKE FRESH WATER INUNDATION AND
11:39:42AM FRESH WATER INUNDATION INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM.
11:39:45AM ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO PREVENT SEWAGE BACK-UPS.
11:39:53AM TRULY INNOVATIVE.
11:39:56AM A GRAVITY SYSTEM AND NO WAY TO PRESENT THAT STUFF FROM
11:39:59AM HAPPENING.
11:39:59AM >> I WILL SAY A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
11:40:03AM WHAT WE ARE DOING LINING THE EXISTING GRAVITY PIPES.
11:40:08AM WE ARE FIXING LEAKS IN THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM THAT STOPS
11:40:16AM STORMWATER FROM GETTING IN THERE AND TAKING UP THE CAPACITY.
11:40:19AM AND THAT IS THE BIG THING NUMBER ONE.
11:40:21AM NUMBER TWO, THE GENERATORS THAT WE ARE DOING.
11:40:23AM I CAN TELL YOU IN 2017, HURRICANE IRMA.
11:40:28AM WE HAD 25 TO 30 PUMPS, GENERATORS.
11:40:34AM AND WE NOW HAVE 74.
11:40:37AM THAT IS GROWING EVERY YEAR.
11:40:38AM INCLUDED THE 23 PROJECTS THAT, YOU CURRENTLY ACTIVE.
11:40:41AM THOSE WILL HAVE GENERATORS AND WILL ADD TO OUR TOTAL.
11:40:45AM SO I THINK ALL THESE LITTLE THINGS WILL HELP.
11:40:48AM >> NOT 100% PREVENTABLE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF HOW WE
11:40:52AM REMOVE STORM --
11:40:54AM >> DEPENDS UPON STORM.
11:40:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:40:58AM THAT CONCLUDES EVERYTHING.
11:40:59AM YES, MA'AM.
11:40:59AM AND Q&A.
11:41:02AM WE ASKED -- A LOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:41:04AM PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT.
11:41:07AM MISS DUNCAN, IF NOTHING FURTHER, GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:41:10AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: NOTHING FURTHER.
11:41:13AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, INTEREST AND INVOLVEMENT WITH ALL
11:41:19AM THESE PROJECTS.
11:41:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:41:21AM KEELA McCASKILL, COLIN THOMPSON AND STEPHANIE POYNOR AND
11:41:25AM JOE COLLIER.
11:41:43AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
11:41:45AM COLIN THOMPSON.
11:41:49AM I'M REPRESENTING THE SOUTH HOWARD BUSINESS ALINES AND MANY OF
11:41:54AM ITS MEMBERS.
11:41:55AM IF I MAY, USE THE OLD FASHION WAY.
11:42:04AM SPEAK OF THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PLAN.
11:42:07AM WE SENT TO THE CITY AND EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS
11:42:11AM YESTERDAY A LETTER THAT I ASKED TO BE MADE PART OF THE
11:42:13AM PUBLIC RECORD.
11:42:14AM AND THE GIST OF THE -- OF THE REQUEST IS THAT WE INCLUDE,
11:42:21AM MODIFY THE CONTRACT TO INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT THAT I BELIEVE
11:42:24AM THE CITY COUNCIL WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR ON BUT THAT APPARENTLY
11:42:28AM HAS NOT BEEN HEARD BY THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:42:31AM AND THAT IS TO CONSIDER ROUTES THAT ARE AN ALTERNATIVE TO
11:42:35AM THE SOUTH HOWARD ROUTE OF THIS -- OF THIS PROJECT.
11:42:39AM I HEARD IT AGAIN TODAY.
11:42:43AM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT IN -- IN
11:42:47AM THE CITY -- WHEN THE CITY TALKS OF ALTERNATIVES, AND THE
11:42:50AM THREE ALTERNATIVES.
11:42:51AM THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE MAIN ROUTE
11:42:57AM OF THIS PROJECT THAT TAKES IT DOWN SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
11:43:00AM THE PRESENTATION FROM THE GRADE A PROJECT REPORT THAT WE
11:43:04AM JUST SAW SHOWS THAT THE -- THAT THE MANY LINE GOES DOWN
11:43:07AM SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE RECEIPT BY BURNS, EPICURIAN AND MANY OF
11:43:14AM THE BUSINESS THERE IS.
11:43:14AM THE ALTERNATIVES ARE WITH REGARD TO THE TOP PORTION THAT
11:43:18AM CONNECT TO THE SOUTH HOWARD SUR.
11:43:22AM THE BRISTOL TO HOWARD.
11:43:23AM SWANN TO HOWARD OR MORRISON TO HOWARD.
11:43:27AM THE PROJECT -- THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE -- THERE IS NO
11:43:31AM ALTERNATIVE IS WITH REGARD TO HOWARD AVENUE.
11:43:34AM THE NEW STORMWATER INFORMATION PAGE BY THE -- THAT THE CITY
11:43:38AM HAS PUT OUT MAKES THAT ALSO CLEAR.
11:43:40AM IT IS PROBABLY MAP SHOWS THAT ALTERNATIVES ON THE MAP ARE
11:43:47AM ONLY WITH REGARD TO THOSE SPURS.
11:43:51AM FEBRUARY 6 WITH A MEETING BEFORE THE COUNCIL, COUNCIL
11:43:55AM MEMBER CLENDENIN ASKED TO MAKE SURE AND REITERATED THAT WHEN
11:44:01AM HE VOTED FOR THE PLAN IT WAS TO MACK SURE THERE WERE OPTIONS
11:44:04AM US THERE.
11:44:05AM MR. BHIDE SAID THAT SWANN TO HOWARD, MORRIS TO HOWARD AND
11:44:12AM BRISTOL.
11:44:12AM THAT IS ALL THAT WILL WAS THERE.
11:44:14AM NOT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED BY COUNCIL.
11:44:17AM MR. BHIDE SAID WE HAD TO HAVE THIS CONTRACT IN PLACE FOR THE
11:44:21AM SPECIFIC PURPOSE FOR EXPERTS TO CONSIDER OPTIONS.
11:44:24AM WHAT OPTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL WAS TALKING ABOUT?
11:44:27AM AS COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN SAID, I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT A
11:44:30AM ROUTE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE HOWARD.
11:44:33AM AND MR. BHIDE SAID THAT IS OUR COMMITMENT.
11:44:38AM NOTHING IN THE CONTRACT PRECLUDES THAT.
11:44:40AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN SAYS AND I BELIEVE IT WAS ALSO THE
11:44:43AM INTENT AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS, WE
11:44:47AM WILL TAKE A LEAP OF FAITH IN APPROVING THIS.
11:44:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:44:51AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIEPOYNOR FOLLOWED BY JOE COLLIER
11:44:56AM AND MR. DAVID ADAMS.
11:44:57AM YES, MA'AM, STATE YOUR NAME.
11:44:59AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:45:01AM THIS PRESENTATION WAS TEN POUND OF CRAP IN A FIVE-POUND BAG.
11:45:05AM BECAUSE WE ARE BARELY GOING TO GO THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT IN
11:45:08AM MORNING AND WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE.
11:45:09AM I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT FOR THE RECORD, HANNAH STREET WAS
11:45:12AM APPROVED IN ACT 2021.
11:45:14AM RIBBON CUTTING IN 2023.
11:45:16AM STATION 24 WAS APPROVED IN THE FY '21 BUDGET AND THEY
11:45:22AM HAVEN'T BROKEN GROUND.
11:45:23AM WE OWNED THIS LAND SINCE 1978 PER MR. PERRY AT LAST WEEK'S
11:45:27AM BUDGET MEETING AND $2 MILLION HAS BEEN SPENT ON ENVIRONMENTAL
11:45:30AM ALREADY.
11:45:30AM IS THAT PART OF THAT $24 MILLION?
11:45:33AM MY UNDERSTANDING MR. GRECO LOOKED AT IT IN A MEETING LAST
11:45:36AM WEEK AND HE SEEMED TO BE OKAY WITH THE PRICING OTHERWISE
11:45:39AM BECAUSE A LOT OF BELLS AND WHISTLES GOING IN THERE.
11:45:42AM MAYBE WE CAN PUT SOME OF THAT OFF AND PUT IT IN LATER.
11:45:45AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:45:45AM HERE IS MY BIG THING.
11:45:50AM FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE NOT GUARANTEED AT THIS POINT.
11:45:52AM IF WE DON'T, WE ARE MORONS.
11:45:55AM WE NEED TO RATCHET IT BACK.
11:45:57AM IF YOU KNOW YOU ARE NOT GET STAG PAYCHECK NEXT WEEK, YOU FIX
11:46:01AM YOUR SPENDING.
11:46:01AM MY PRIORITIES THE WASTEWATER PUMPING STATIONS WHICH WILL BE
11:46:05AM FABULOUS.
11:46:06AM STATION 24.
11:46:07AM I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT.
11:46:08AM $2 MILLION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT ON IT.
11:46:11AM WATER IMPROVEMENTS.
11:46:12AM WE HAVE TO HAVE YES, W.T.F. I LOVE IT HOWARD AVENUE, FDEP
11:46:21AM MONEY FROM S.W.F.W.M.D. TOGETHER.
11:46:22AM THEY PAID $25 MILLION TOWARD THE $54 MILLION MacDILL 48
11:46:29AM PROJECT.
11:46:29AM HOW MUCH MONEY IS COMING FROM THE FEDS?
11:46:31AM BECAUSE DOES NOT SAY IN ANY OF THE GREAT EIGHT WHICH WAS
11:46:34AM GREAT NINE I THINK THIS MORNING BECAUSE WHEN WE GOT AN EXTRA
11:46:37AM PRESENTATION OUT OF IT.
11:46:37AM WHAT IS THE PROJECTED VALUE OF SPRUCE STREET?
11:46:41AM ASHLEY DRIVE, WHILE I LIKE IT AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE
11:46:46AM IN THE WORLD SUBJECTED IT, I THINK IT IS AS HURRY UP AND
11:46:49AM WAIT THING, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS.
11:46:52AM I WANT TO KNOW EVERY BIT OF THE FEDERAL FUND DESIGNATED ON
11:46:56AM THERE.
11:46:57AM DO WE HAVE THEM YET, IF THE ANSWER IS NO, WE HAVE TO WAIT A
11:47:01AM LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE -- COUNT OUR CHICKENS BEFORE
11:47:05AM THEY HATCH.
11:47:06AM WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
11:47:07AM FOLKS HERE FOR ONE PROJECT AND SURE NICE TO BREAK IT UP A
11:47:10AM LITTLE BIT SO THEY CAN TALK AND SO THEY COULD GO TO WORK.
11:47:14AM NOT EVERYBODY CAN SIT LIKE I DO.
11:47:18AM YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE RIVERWALK.
11:47:20AM I THINK THAT IS A VANITY PROJECT.
11:47:22AM YOU KNOW HOW FEEL OF THE TPD ANNEX.
11:47:24AM I THINK IT IS ANOTHER VANITY PROJECT.
11:47:26AM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS DO
11:47:30AM NOT HAVE THEIR OWN FORENSICS LAB.
11:47:32AM WHY DO WE NEED ONE.
11:47:33AM AT $40 MILLION, WE ARE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY WE DON'T HAVE
11:47:37AM YET.
11:47:38AM AND I WAS -- I WAS AT ALL THE MEETINGS YOU GUYS WERE AT, AND
11:47:42AM I DON'T REMEMBER YOU GUYS APPROVING ALL THAT MONEY EITHER.
11:47:45AM PLEASE NOTE THAT.
11:47:46AM AND THE ONE IN '22.
11:47:48AM YOU DON'T REMEMBER.
11:47:49AM YOU GUYS MAY HAVE DONE IT BUNDLED UP IN SOMETHING ELSE WHERE
11:47:53AM NOBODY SAW IT BUT YOU DIDN'T APPROVE $40 MILLION, THAT IS
11:47:57AM FOR DAMN SURE.
11:47:58AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:47:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:48:00AM DAVE COLLIER, DAVID ADAMS, RYAN HAYES -- I DON'T SEE HERE AND
11:48:06AM MISS ELIZABETH DINWITTIE.
11:48:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, HOWDY, JOE COLLIER, GENERAL PARTNER,
11:48:13AM EPICURIAN HOTEL.
11:48:14AM AFTER THE NOVEMBER EXCITING CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE
11:48:18AM HAD, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDED TO TOO I TO BE PART OF THE
11:48:21AM SOLUTION AND JUMP IN WITH SOME CIVIC ACTION.
11:48:23AM AND SOME COOPERATION.
11:48:25AM WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARKLAND THAT FLOOD.
11:48:28AM AND WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GET THE WATER OUT.
11:48:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A MOMENT, SIR.
11:48:32AM MR. WEISS, IF YOU CAN TAKE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE.
11:48:36AM SIR?
11:48:37AM SIR?
11:48:39AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, PLEASE TAKE
11:48:41AM OUTSIDE.
11:48:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:48:42AM SORRY, SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:48:44AM >> SO WE SAID -- WE TRIED TO JUMP IN AND SAY WE HAVE A
11:48:49AM PROBLEM BE WITH PARKLAND, IT FLOODS.
11:48:51AM WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GET THE WATER OUT.
11:48:53AM IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO DO IT?
11:48:55AM A QUICK RECAP.
11:48:56AM WE MET WITH THE MAYOR AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:48:59AM MET WITH KIMMINS.
11:49:00AM HIRED A LOCAL ENGINEERING FIRM BASED ON WHAT THE MAYOR AND
11:49:04AM CHIEF OF STAFF TOLD US.
11:49:05AM WE HIRED AN ENGINEERING FIRM.
11:49:07AM FIVE ALTERNATE ROUTES WERE DEVELOPED.
11:49:09AM WE MET WITH THE PARKLAND BOARD.
11:49:11AM I KNOW YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE SUBSET OF PARKLAND BUT NOT ON
11:49:15AM THE BOARD.
11:49:15AM WE MET WITH VIK AND HIS TEAM AND LEARNED A TON THROUGH THIS.
11:49:21AM A TON.
11:49:21AM A QUICK RECAP SO YOU CAN ASK THE MIGHT QUESTIONS TO HELP YOU
11:49:25AM GUIDE THE PROCESS.
11:49:26AM TO DATE, NOTHING HAS BEEN BUILT AND DESIGNED ON THIS
11:49:29AM PROJECT.
11:49:29AM NOTHING HAS BEEN BUILT OR DESIGNED.
11:49:31AM KIMMON HAS BEEN BROUGHT ON TO DESIGN IT TO GIVE YOU THE
11:49:34AM ANSWERS, BUT THEY ARE PRECLUDING ALL THESE ALTERNATE ROUTES.
11:49:38AM WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD ALTERNATE ROUTES WE PUT FORWARD.
11:49:41AM I THINK THEY ARE PRETTY SHARP IF YOU GUYS TAKE THE TOO EMTO
11:49:44AM LOOK AT THEM.
11:49:44AM IT TOOK OUR ENGINEER TWO WEEKS TO CREATE THE SAME LEVEL OF
11:49:48AM EXHIBITS THAN WHAT THE CITY HAS.
11:49:50AM EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY SAY NO MANAGE OAK HOWARD AVENUE AT ALL
11:49:56AM THIS AND THEA WILL CONTRIBUTE THE MONEY WITH ANY OF THE
11:50:01AM CONNECTIONS WE PROPOSE AND MANY OTHERS WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED
11:50:05AM NO MAGIC TO HOWARD AVENUE FOR THEA, THE $10 MILLION, $11
11:50:11AM MILLION, $12 MILLION.
11:50:12AM IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME ASK THEA.
11:50:15AM I ASKED VIK, IF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TASK WITH A
11:50:19AM DRAINAGE ROUTE THAT DIDN'T CLOSE SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE, CAN DO
11:50:23AM YOU IT.
11:50:23AM THE ANSWER WAS ABSOLUTELY.
11:50:24AM MIGHT COST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
11:50:26AM BUT HE SAID THAT IS A POLITICAL SITUATION.
11:50:29AM THAT IS WHAT VIK.
11:50:31AM THEY SAID FIND THE FASTEST, CHEAPEST ROUTE.
11:50:34AM DOESN'T MATTER THE COST OF THE BUSINESSES.
11:50:35AM COST OF THE BUSINESS IS A POLITICAL DECISION.
11:50:38AM THE PARKLAND BOARD THAT WE MET WITH, FOLKS THAT REPRESENT
11:50:41AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY ARE BEHIND THREE OF OUR ALTERNATIVES.
11:50:45AM TWO THEY COULD GET BEHIND BUT NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK.
11:50:48AM SOUTH HOWARD BUSINESS GROUP AND YOU GOT THE PARKLAND GROUP.
11:50:52AM WE HAVE COME TOGETHER AND SAID THAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR
11:50:54AM CIVIC COOPERATION AND REDUCE THE FRICTION, SO I THINK WE
11:50:58AM HAVE GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD IDEAS IN THERE, BUT YOUR CONTRACT
11:51:02AM WITH KIMMINS PRECLUDES YOU FROM EVEN LETTING YOU STUDY WHAT
11:51:05AM WE HAVE PROPOSED.
11:51:06AM SO IN GOOD FAITH, WE SPENT THE MONEY.
11:51:18AM WE WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM IN PARKLAND.
11:51:21AM WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SLOW THIS DOWN BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN
11:51:24AM DESIGNED YET.
11:51:25AM NOW IS THE TIME TO START THE DESIGN PROCESS TO MAKE IT
11:51:28AM HAPPEN.
11:51:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:51:30AM MR. DAVID ADAMS, ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE AND HARRY COLEMAN.
11:51:35AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:51:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, DAVID ADAMS, I LIVE IN PARKLAND
11:51:43AM ESTATES.
11:51:43AM I SEEK YOUR CONTINUED RELIEF OF THE HOWARD PROJECT.
11:51:47AM WHAT WE ARE DEALING DURING SUMMER RAINSTORMS PICTURE
11:51:51AM DECEMBER 23, 2024.
11:51:54AM DIRECTOR BHIDE SAY EAST PENINSULA GATHERS TENS OF MILLIONS
11:52:01AM OF GALLONS OF WATER WITH HEAVY RAIN.
11:52:03AM TO KEEP THE STORMWATER SYSTEM UP TO DATE, NO PLACE FOR THE
11:52:06AM WATER TO GO ON OUR STREETS AND INTO OUR HOMES.
11:52:09AM DURING MILTON, OVER 150 HOMES WERE FLOODED IN THIS BASIN.
11:52:14AM MY HOME WAS THEM.
11:52:15AM 33 INCHES OUTSIDE OF MY FENCE AND 12 INCHES IN MY HOUSE.
11:52:19AM I LOST EVERYTHING ON THE FIRST FLOOR, FAMILY PICTURES,
11:52:23AM FURNITURE, MY KITCHEN, LAUNDRY ROOM, DOORS, WALLS, YOU NAME
11:52:26AM IT.
11:52:27AM FINANCIAL AND EMOTIONAL TOLL HAVES YOUR HOUSE DESTROYED BY A
11:52:31AM FLOOD IS UNBELIEVABLY DEVASTATING.
11:52:34AM I AM STILL TRYING TO REBUILD.
11:52:36AM PICTURES OF THE DEVASTATION CAUSED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM
11:52:39AM THE NOVEMBER MEETINGS THAT WE HAD AND AFTER HURRICANE
11:52:44AM MILTON.
11:52:45AM HERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
11:52:47AM HERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
11:52:50AM I CAN GO ON A LONG TIME BECAUSE 150 HOUSES THAT LOOK LIKE
11:53:00AM THIS.
11:53:01AM YOUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT HAS A SOLUTION AND THAT'S THIS
11:53:04AM PROJECT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
11:53:05AM THAT SOLUTION WILL MOVE THOSE TENS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS
11:53:09AM OUT OF THE EAST PENINSULA BASIN TO TAMPA BAY WHERE THE WATER
11:53:12AM BELONGS.
11:53:12AM DOESN'T BELONG ON THE STREETS.
11:53:14AM IT DOESN'T BELONG IN OUR HOMES.
11:53:16AM HERE IS A GRAPH OF THE TAMPA METRO POPULATION LAST 30 YEARS.
11:53:23AM 1991 WHEN I MOVED IN, NOW THE POPULATION IS
11:53:31AM THREE MILLION PEOPLE.
11:53:31AM 74% INCREASE.
11:53:33AM OVER THOSE 34 YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN NO STORMWATER
11:53:36AM IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
11:53:38AM PARKLAND ESTATES WAS PLATTED IN 1924.
11:53:43AM 100 YEARS IS A LONG TIME NOT TO UPDATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:53:46AM THAT IS PARTICULARLY UNFAIR BECAUSE IN 2016, THIS COUNCIL
11:53:50AM PASSEDED A STORMWATER TAX FOR THE CENTRAL AND LOWER BASINS.
11:53:53AM THAT MONEY WAS EAR MARKED FOR PROJECTS JUST LIKE THIS ONE.
11:53:57AM THAT MONEY HAS BEEN BUDGETED AND READY TO PROVIDE FLOOD
11:53:59AM RELIEF RIGHT NOW.
11:54:00AM NO INTEREST, NOTHING.
11:54:05AM MONEY IS READY TO GO.
11:54:07AM TENS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS HAVE TO BE MOVED FROM THE HEAVY
11:54:11AM RAINS THAT CAN'T BE DONE THROUGH MAINTENANCE OF STORMWATER
11:54:14AM SYSTEM WITH IDEA LIKE INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE INLETS
11:54:17AM THAT GO IN THERE.
11:54:18AM THAT WILL BE LIKE TRYING TO FILL UP YOUR CAR WITH AN EYE
11:54:21AM DROPPER.
11:54:22AM IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.
11:54:23AM EXISTING PIPES CAN'T HANDLE THE MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF
11:54:27AM WATER.
11:54:27AM WE NEED A LARGE GRAVITY-BASED CULVERT SYSTEM TO ELIMINATE
11:54:31AM THE STRUCTURAL FLOODING.
11:54:32AM OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED OVER $11
11:54:36AM MILLION FOR OTHER FLOOD RELIEF FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
11:54:39AM WE NEED RELIEF TOO.
11:54:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:41AM ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE, HARRY COLEMAN.
11:54:46AM STEVE GERRISH, GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
11:54:49AM >> HI, I AM ELIZABETH DINWIDDLE, KNOWN AS LIZ ARCADO IN EMAILS.
11:54:55AM SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE FIVE
11:55:00AM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTED YES TO MOVE THIS PROJECT
11:55:04AM FORWARD.
11:55:04AM IT MEANS SO MUCH TO ME AND MY FAMILY.
11:55:06AM I AM GOING TO TRY TO SPEAK TODAY WITHOUT CRYING, SO CROSS
11:55:10AM THE FINGERS.
11:55:11AM THIS IS JUST A VERY EMOTIONAL TOPIC.
11:55:14AM BECAUSE IT IS -- IT IS YOUR HOME.
11:55:16AM NOTHING MORE PERSONAL THAN THE SAFETY OF YOUR FAMILY.
11:55:21AM AND I WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THIS HOME ONE AND A HALF YEARS
11:55:25AM AGO IF I KNEW THAT IT WAS IN A FLOOD ZONE.
11:55:28AM IT WAS SOLD TO ME AS A NO FLOOD ZONE PROPERTY.
11:55:31AM I SPECIFICALLY SEARCHED FOR A NO FLOOD ZONE PROPERTY.
11:55:34AM AND I BOUGHT THIS HOME IN FLOOD ZONE X.
11:55:38AM AND MANY HOMES AROUND ME IN FLOOD ZONE X DID NOT FLOOD.
11:55:42AM TO SO IT IS NOT LIKE, OH, BECAUSE IT WAS A RAIN EVENT OF A
11:55:46AM PARTICULAR -- IT WAS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF LACK OF
11:55:49AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:55:49AM AND THAT LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT CAUSED MY FLOOD
11:55:53AM ZONE X HOME TO FLOOD.
11:55:55AM AND THAT CAN BE FIXED.
11:55:57AM AND OUR ENGINEERS HAVE SHOWN YOU THE WAY TO FIX IT.
11:56:01AM OUR MAYOR WANT THIS TO BE FIXED.
11:56:03AM OUR CITY ENGINEERS WANT THIS TO BE FIXED.
11:56:05AM THIS LITERALLY WILL COME DOWN TO YOU AND HOW YOU VOTE NEXT.
11:56:11AM IF THE COUNTY TO BREAK GROUND OR NOT.
11:56:14AM I THINK WE HAVE VERY STRONG YES VOTES AND WE HAVE A COUPLE
11:56:17AM OF VOTES THAT ARE NOT STRONG YES VOTES.
11:56:25AM I PLEAD WITH THOSE COUNCILMEMBERS THAT IT WILL BE
11:56:29AM YOUR CHOICE IF WHETHER OR NOT MY FAMILY IS SAFE.
11:56:33AM I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.
11:56:35AM LIKE, THIS ISN'T A MAYBE.
11:56:37AM WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TRAUMATIZED BY THIS LACK OF ACTION.
11:56:42AM AND I REALLY, REALLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT IT IS DOWN TO
11:56:46AM YOU AND YOUR VOTE WHETHER OR NOT THIS SAFETY WILL HAPPEN FOR
11:56:52AM MY FAMILY, FOR THE PEOPLE DRIVING ON THESE ROADS.
11:56:55AM IT IS A VERY BIG ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR -- FOR
11:56:59AM MANY YEARS.
11:56:59AM AND I ASK IS YOU TO REMEMBER THE BUS DRIVER NINE YEARS AGO.
11:57:03AM YOU KNOW, I CAN SHOW YOU THE VIDEO.
11:57:05AM NINE YEARS AGO, THIS BUS DRIVER TRAPPEDED IN ALL IN WATER
11:57:10AM WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE.
11:57:11AM THIS ISN'T NEW.
11:57:12AM THIS IS NINE YEARS OF ENGINEERS LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT.
11:57:16AM NINE YEARS ALREADY OF VARIOUS ROUTES.
11:57:19AM PLEASE DO NOT BE CONVINCED THAT MORE I NEED -- MORE -- MORE
11:57:25AM -- LIKE LET'S CONSIDER ALL THESE DIFFERENT ROUTES.
11:57:28AM OKAY, THEY HAVE.
11:57:29AM THERE ARE NINE YEARS OF MULTIPLE ENGINEERS.
11:57:32AM I MET WITH ENGINEERS ON THIS PROJECT AND THEY ARE SO KIND AS
11:57:35AM YOU ARE BEING NOW TO HEAR FROM ME.
11:57:37AM APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
11:57:38AM I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
11:57:40AM ENGINEERS HAVE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK.
11:57:43AM THIS IS NINE YEARS.
11:57:44AM NINE YEARS.
11:57:45AM HOW CAN WE POSSIBLY LIKE LISTEN TO THE -- SAYING WE NEED
11:57:49AM MORE -- MORE ROUTES.
11:57:50AM THEY -- THEY HAVE CHOSEN THIS ROUTE BASED ON THEIR
11:57:54AM KNOWLEDGE, THEIR EXPERTISE.
11:57:56AM PLEASE TRUST THE ENGINEERS OF OUR CITY.
11:57:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:00AM HARRY COLEMAN AND GERRISH.
11:58:04AM IT IS DR. GERRISH.
11:58:05AM YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM, AND WE GO TO THE NEXT
11:58:08AM ITEMS.
11:58:09AM GOOD MORNING, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:58:11AM >> IT IS HARRY COLEMAN.
11:58:13AM GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR LET ME SPEAK TODAY.
11:58:17AM I HAVE BEEN IN THIS CHAMBER FOR SEVERAL OCCASIONS SUPPORTS
11:58:20AM MY NEIGHBORS, ADVOCATING FOR MY FAMILY.
11:58:23AM THIS VIDEO THAT I AM SHOWING IS WHY.
11:58:25AM ME AND MY FAMILY ARE NOT ALONE.
11:58:27AM 150 HOMES, ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES.
11:58:30AM THEY WERE ALL THERE ALL DURING SUMMER LONG AND DURING MILTN
11:58:35AM AS WELL.
11:58:36AM WE LOST 16 GRAND TREES WITH SOIL SATURATED AND IT FELL OVER.
11:58:43AM CITY WAS ON FOUNTAIN CUTTING DOWN PROBABLY AN 80-FOOT OAK
11:58:52AM TREE BECAUSE IT REARED UP AND CRACKED ONE OF MY NEIGHBOR'S
11:58:55AM ROADWAYS.
11:58:56AM THIS IS SHOWS WE NEED TO ATTACK THE FLOODING PROBLEM AT THE
11:58:59AM ROOT CAUSE, INADEQUATE STORMWATER CAPACITY.
11:59:02AM CURRENT SYSTEM IS SHOWN HERE.
11:59:06AM AND THIS OUT OF THE JMT STUDY.
11:59:09AM IT IS NOT KIMMINS.
11:59:11AM THEY ARE -- NEITHER ARE THEY THE CITY ENGINEERS.
11:59:17AM AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO DO THE STUDY AND MAPS WE HAVE SHOWN ALL
11:59:21AM THE WAY BACK TO 2020.
11:59:22AM THE CURRENT ACTUAL SYSTEM AND BLUE AND FLOWS OUT TO TH
11:59:25AM SOUTHWEST AND DOWN BY FRED BALL PARK.
11:59:27AM SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT WILL AUGMENT THE ENTIRE
11:59:31AM SYSTEM.
11:59:31AM WE WILL NOT REPLACE.
11:59:32AM WE WILL WE ARE COMPLETELY ADDING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY TO THE
11:59:37AM ACTUAL SYSTEM.
11:59:37AM THIS IS THE TIME FOR USES TO DO IT.
11:59:39AM I THINK IF YOU LOOK DOWN ON THIS MAP AS WELL, THERE IS
11:59:42AM NOTHING DOWN HOWARD WHICH IS CRAZY TO ME.
11:59:44AM I THINK HYDE PARK HAS THEIR OWN DRAINAGE.
11:59:48AM IF YOU LOOK TO BAY TO BAY THEIR OWN DRAINAGE AND NOTHING ON
11:59:52AM HOWARD AND HAVEN'T TOUCH IT IN 70 YEARS.
11:59:56AM YOU ALLOW ME THE ANALOGY AND MANY OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE
11:59:59AM CITY, PATCHING A TIRE ON A PICKUP TRUCK.
12:00:03PM EVERY TIME A BLOWOUT, WE PATCH A TIRE.
12:00:07PM THE CITY DOES THE PATCH.
12:00:09PM THE TRUCK CARRYING HEAVIER AND HEAVIER LOADS.
12:00:15PM AND WE KEEP PATCHING.
12:00:16PM CHOOSE TO BUILD HOTELS SO PEOPLE CAN COME VISIT TO SEE OUR
12:00:20PM AMAZING CITY.
12:00:21PM THEY GET TO VISIT OUR RESTAURANTS AND WORLD-CLASS WATER
12:00:25PM ACCESS AND THEY WANT TO BUILD HERE AND NEW HOUSING AND
12:00:28PM ECONOMIC.
12:00:29PM TO DO SO WE NEED TO STOP PATCHING.
12:00:31PM ADD MORE TIRES UNDER THE FLAT BED.
12:00:34PM CONVERT IT TO A DULY TRUCK AND FREEDOM TO LIVE THE LIVES WE
12:00:39PM ALREADY HAVE CHOSE.
12:00:40PM SOUTH HOWARD RELIEF PROJECT ARE THOSE NEW TIERS.
12:00:43PM MY PARTING THOUGHT IS WE NEED THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF
12:00:47PM PROJECT BECAUSE GETS TO THE ROOT CAUSE OF OUR ISSUE.
12:00:49PM OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WILL AUGMENT IT, I'M ALL FOR THEM.
12:00:52PM BUT YOU CANNOT SUBTRACT FROM THIS BUDGET.
12:00:55PM THANK YOU.
12:00:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:00:58PM MR. MICHELINI, YOU ARE NOT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
12:01:00PM DR. GARISH.
12:01:02PM >> I AM SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
12:01:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME REFRESH THIS.
12:01:08PM DR. GARISH, YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER.
12:01:10PM >> YOU WANTED TO GIVE YOU ONE OF THESE.
12:01:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM,
12:01:18PM SIR.
12:01:18PM >> PUT THIS.
12:01:36PM >> MY NAME IS STEVE GERRISH, 22 WEST PARKLAND.
12:01:39PM FIRST, I WANT TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO THE MAJORITY
12:01:42PM OF COUNCIL AGAIN FOR PASSING THE VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
12:01:44PM THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
12:01:46PM IT HAS GIVEN US HOPE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT A TIME WHEN VERY
12:01:51PM LITTLE OF THAT GOING AROUND.
12:01:52PM A RENEWED VIGOR OF SOME PARTIES TO SHUT THE PROJECT DOWN.
12:01:56PM TODAY YOU HAVE ALL HEARD REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD CONSIDER
12:01:58PM SHUTTING DOWN THE FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
12:02:00PM REASONS SUCH AS IT WON'T WORK AND ONLY A SMALL MINORITY
12:02:05PM SUPPORT THE PROJECT OR THERE ARE NO SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS
12:02:08PM THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON.
12:02:09PM I PLEAD OF ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE THINK CAREFUL BEFORE
12:02:12PM BELIEVING BLANKET STATEMENTS.
12:02:15PM ASK FOR EVIDENCE, PROOF AND DOCUMENTATION.
12:02:17PM I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A REBUTTAL TO SOME OF THESE STATEMENTS
12:02:22PM NUMBER ONE, IT WON'T WORK.
12:02:24PM WE HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THIS PROBABLY WILL WORK.
12:02:26PM TEN YEARS OF STUDY AND RESEARCH BY DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS
12:02:29PM AND OUTSIDE ENGINEERING FIRMS HAVE WORKED ON DEVELOPING THIS
12:02:34PM PROJECT FROM THE SUMMARY OF THE JMT FINDS.
12:02:38PM FLOODWATERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
12:02:41PM SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED BY THIS PROJECT.
12:02:42PM WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT THE PROJECT WON'T WORK?
12:02:45PM IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT ENGINEERS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD
12:02:47PM LAUGH AT THIS PROJECT AND THEY HAVE A BETTER PLAN.
12:02:49PM WHERE ARE THOSE PLAN AS SOON AS IS IT READY TO START RIGHT
12:02:53PM -- IS IT READY TO START RIGHT NOW LIKE A PLAN THAT HAS
12:02:58PM ALREADY STARTED?
12:03:00PM SHOW US THAT THESE ENGINEERS ARE LAUGHS AT THE PROJECT,
12:03:02PM BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU AFTER SPENDING A LIFE'S WORTH OF
12:03:10PM SAVINGS TO SAVE LIVES, I AM NOT LAUGHING.
12:03:13PM TRY 150 FAMILIES WHOSE HOMES FLOODED.
12:03:17PM 30 OR SO PEOPLE WHO LIE ALONG THE POTENTIAL CONSTRUCTION
12:03:20PM ROUTE, ONLY OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT AMONGST HOMEOWNERS.
12:03:24PM HARDLY A MAJORITY.
12:03:26PM MOST OF THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE UNAAFFECTED BY
12:03:29PM FLOODING OR CONSTRUCTION AND THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE AN
12:03:31PM OPINION.
12:03:32PM MAJORITY OF HOMEOWNERS WITH AN OPINION ARE MOST DEFINITELY
12:03:36PM FOR THIS PROJECT.
12:03:37PM NUMBER TWO, NO SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS THAT ARE BEING WORKED
12:03:40PM ON.
12:03:40PM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ACTIVELY REPAVING ROADS NORTH
12:03:44PM OF SWANN.
12:03:46PM CLEANING AND FIXING RETENTION POND AND EVALUATE GOING CEMENT
12:03:50PM THAT MAY IMPEDE DRAINAGE.
12:03:53PM ACTIVE PROBLEMS DESIGNED FOR SHORT-TERM IMPROVEMENT.
12:03:56PM IN CONCLUSION, ALREADY SPENT WEEKS DEBATING THE MERITS OF
12:04:03PM THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
12:04:05PM A WELL STUDIED AND AT THE SIGNED PROJECT THAT WILL PROVIDE
12:04:09PM FLOOD RELIEF FOR DECADES TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:04:10PM NO NEW OR COMPELLING EVIDENCE THAT CHANGES WHAT YOU HAVE
12:04:13PM ALREADY HEARD AND DECIDED UPON.
12:04:14PM ONLY UNSUB STATE 1998ED STATEMENTS.
12:04:19PM TO SHUT DOWN THE PROJECT WILL BE TOTAL ABANDONMENT OF THE
12:04:22PM COMMUNITY BECAUSE ALL WE WILL HAVE IS MORE EMPTY PROMISES
12:04:25PM AND STATEMENTS WITHOUT MERIT AND ANOTHER TEN YEARS WILL PASS
12:04:28PM BY WITH OUR STREETS CONSTANTLY FLOODING AND OUR HOMES LIKELY
12:04:31PM FLOODING AGAIN AS WELL.
12:04:32PM THANK YOU.
12:04:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:04:35PM MR. MICHELINI, YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER FOR THAT GROUP AND
12:04:38PM THE NEXT ITEM AND ANOTHER GROUP.
12:04:40PM YOU ARE IN THE NEXT GROUP.
12:04:42PM >> I SIGNED UP ON ITEM NUMBER 2.
12:04:44PM >> IT SHOWS ITEM NUMBER 3.
12:04:46PM >> YOU HAVE BEEN 2.
12:04:48PM >> YOU WANT TO SWAP IT.
12:04:50PM WE WILL CLOSE YOU OUT AS THE LAST -- OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
12:04:53PM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
12:04:56PM STATE YOUR NAME.
12:04:57PM >> STEVE MICHELINI ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
12:05:01PM LET ME PUT A DOCUMENT ON THE OVERHEAD THAT COMES FROM A
12:05:04PM REPORT THAT SAYS THE ENGINEERS WERE STOPPED FROM VIEWING
12:05:07PM ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE THREE ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE IN THE
12:05:11PM CONTRACT.
12:05:11PM IT SAYS VERY SPECIFICALLY A RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE HERE
12:05:19PM BECAUSE IT WAS GOING OVER TO THE SWANN AND CROSSTOWN --
12:05:24PM OR CSX -- LET ME.
12:05:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
12:05:35PM MOVE IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
12:05:43PM JUST A LITTLE.
12:05:44PM SLIGHTLY.
12:05:45PM >> WHERE AM I GOING?
12:05:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD SO EVERYTHING FITS.
12:05:49PM >> ANYWAY, THE RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE INCLUDED ADDITION OF
12:05:52PM A STORMWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM ALONG SWANN, WHICH HAS SINCE
12:05:57PM BEEN -- WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN CONSTRUCTED; HOWEVER,
12:06:02PM IMPLEMENTATION OF RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE WAS NOT COMPLETED
12:06:05PM AT THE PROPOSED STORMWATER SYSTEM AND MUST CROSS THE
12:06:08PM RAILROAD TRACKS SO THERE WERE TOLD TO DELETE IT.
12:06:11PM THIS START OFF.
12:06:13PM AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATE 2018.
12:06:17PM FROM 2018, THEY HAVE KNOWN THEY WERE ONLY GOING TO PROPOSE
12:06:21PM THE ONE ALTERNATIVE FOR USING BRISTOL, MORRISON AND HOWARD.
12:06:24PM JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOUR MOTION TO DELETE BRISTOL PRECEDED
12:06:29PM THE ADOPTION OF THE CONTRACT AND MR. SHELBY ADVISED YOU --
12:06:37PM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO -- THIS WAS DURING THE HEARING.
12:06:39PM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CONFLICT.
12:06:43PM WE ARE NOT TRYING TO STOP THE PROJECT, WE WANT TO MAKE IT
12:06:46PM BETTER.
12:06:46PM GO OUT TO AND HIRE ENGINEERS THAT ARE REASONABLE.
12:06:51PM WE DID THAT.
12:06:51PM 43-PAGE DOCUMENT TRANSMITTED TO YOU YESTERDAY.
12:06:55PM TECO IS NOT ON BOARD, $100,000 AND $200,000 CONNECTION FEE
12:07:02PM TO GO FROM HOWARD TO EAST BUSINESS.
12:07:04PM AMAZING.
12:07:04PM THIS STORMWATER PLAN ONLY ADDRESSES THREE INCHES OF WATER.
12:07:08PM THEY TELL YOU THAT.
12:07:11PM SUMMER STORMS THEY SHOWED YOU VIDEO IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND
12:07:15PM IMPACT PARKLAND.
12:07:16PM THEY HAVE IGNORED THE EXISTING DITCHES.
12:07:20PM IGNORED THE FACT THAT WE GAVE ALTERNATIVES TO NOT DISRUPT THE
12:07:28PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUSINESSES.
12:07:29PM NO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE AT ALL.
12:07:31PM I AM ASKING FOR A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CONTRACT.
12:07:34PM BECAUSE VIK BHIDE HAS SPECIFICALLY TOLD US THAT HE IS LOCKED
12:07:38PM IN TO THIS -- TO THE CONTRACT.
12:07:41PM THAT DOES NOT ALLOW ALTERNATIVES.
12:07:44PM THIS INCLUDES BRISTOL.
12:07:45PM THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCLUDE BRISTOL IN THERE.
12:07:47PM THEY CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY WILL LOOK AT OTHER THINGS.
12:07:50PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
12:07:51PM CONTRACT IS VERY SPECIFIC.
12:07:53PM THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE A RESOLUTION TO ASK -- TO AMEND
12:07:58PM THAT CONTRACT.
12:07:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:08:00PM MENTESNOT IS THE LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS GROUP AND MR. ROGERO
12:08:07PM WILL KICK OFF THE NEXT INTO YOU ITEMS.
12:08:10PM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA, UHURU, IT MEANS FREEDOM IN
12:08:16PM SWAHILI.
12:08:17PM AND --
12:08:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
12:08:48PM >> I WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATIVE IF THEY CAN FOCUS ON THE --
12:09:03PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:09:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT.
12:09:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
12:09:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:09:12PM [BELL CHIMING]
12:11:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:11:17PM >> THANK YOU.
12:11:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MR. ROGERO, ITEM NUMBER FOUR
12:11:24PM AND ITEM NUMBER THREE.
12:11:25PM COUNCIL, KEEP IN MIND PER THE RULES OF WORKSHOP, WE CONCLUDE
12:11:29PM BY 1:00.
12:11:30PM I DON'T KNOW -- UNLESS WE EXTEND IT.
12:11:33PM JUST A FYI.
12:11:35PM YES, SIR, MR. ROGERO.
12:11:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:11:39PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
12:11:43PM IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE.
12:11:47PM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY FOR BONDING OVERVIEW
12:11:56PM PRESENTATION.
12:11:56PM AS IT WAS LAST YEAR -- AS WE DID LAST YEAR, WE WILL SHARE A
12:11:59PM GREAT DEAL OF DATA WITH YOU.
12:12:01PM WE THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY VALUABLE.
12:12:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE PAPER COPIES.
12:12:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WASN'T IN ON BASE.
12:12:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: TO YOU HAVE COPIES?
12:12:15PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:12:16PM HE IS ON IT.
12:12:17PM HE IS -- WHAT'S THAT?
12:12:26PM YES, SIR.
12:12:26PM ALL RIGHT, AS HE PASSES THOSE OUT TAKING A LOOK AT OUR
12:12:33PM AGENDA AND START WITH AN UPDATE AS WE ALWAYS DO.
12:12:36PM SECOND COMPREHENSIVE DEBT AND BONDING CAPACITY UPDATE.
12:12:44PM WE TALKED OF THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE WORLD.
12:12:46PM WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT MORE.
12:12:47PM I AM NOT GOING TO DENY THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF THAT.
12:12:51PM YOU CAN SEE WE WILL GO THROUGH THE RATINGS, TOTAL CITY
12:12:55PM FINANCING, NON-AD VALOREM FINANCING, WATER, WASTEWATER,
12:13:00PM SOLID WASTE FINANCING, BONDING CAPACITY AND OFFER QUESTIONS
12:13:03PM AND DISCUSSION.
12:13:04PM AGAIN WE PERHAPS WE ARE PRESSED FOR TIME AND THOSE QUESTIONS
12:13:07PM AND DISCUSSIONS MAY COME AT ANOTHER TIME.
12:13:09PM I LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR PRESENTERS TODAY.
12:13:16PM OF COURSE IT IS ME WITH A SMALL W, BELIEVE ME, MOLLY CLARK
12:13:21PM OF PUBLIC RESOURCES ADVISORY GROUP.
12:13:23PM ARE THEY HERE YET?
12:13:25PM THEY ARE ENTERING NOW.
12:13:27PM AND THIS IS MOLLY CLARK, PUBLIC RESOURCES ADVISORY GROUP.
12:13:30PM WILL REID, OF FORD AND ASSOCIATES.
12:13:35PM AND OUR BOND COUNSEL AND THE PRESIDENT OF FORD ASSOCIATES
12:13:39PM COMING IN ALSO.
12:13:40PM AS YOU HEARD ME STATE BEFORE, WE HAVE A VERY, VERY
12:13:43PM SUCCESSFUL HISTORY WITH THESE PROFESSIONALS.
12:13:45PM WE MAKE A GREAT TEAM.
12:13:46PM AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU PROOF POSITIVE OF THAT IN JUST A
12:13:51PM MOMENT.
12:13:51PM MR. REID, ARE YOU READY?
12:13:58PM MR. REID WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH A MUNICIPAL DEBT UPDATE.
12:14:03PM GIVING YOU CONTEXT OF THE ENVIRONMENT WE ARE WORKING IN AND
12:14:06PM THROUGH AS IT WE TRY TO FINANCE PROJECTS.
12:14:07PM MR. REID.
12:14:09PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL.
12:14:15PM MY NAME IS WILL REID, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF FORD AND
12:14:20PM ASSOCIATES AND WE ARE YOUR MUNICIPAL ADVISORS OTHER WHERE
12:14:23PM YOU ARE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS.
12:14:25PM ADVANCE THE SLIDE.
12:14:33PM SO -- THIS YEAR HAS BEEN PARKED BE EXTREME VOLATILITY.
12:14:37PM FEELS AS THOUGH THE ONLY THING LESS CERTAIN THIS YEAR THAN
12:14:40PM THE MARKETS IS THE RAY STADIUM NEGOTIATIONS.
12:14:42PM WE HAVE SEEN THE STOCK MARKETS BOUNCE FROM UNDER 39,000 TO
12:14:46PM OVER 45,000 ENDING THE YEAR AT 42.5 THOUSAND.
12:14:51PM TREND HAS CONTINUED BACK TO 45,000 AND FALLING DOWN TO
12:14:57PM 43,000.
12:14:58PM FEDERAL RESERVE PLAYED THEIR ROLE WITH THREE CUTS STARTING
12:15:02PM IN LATE 2024, TAKING THE UPPER SEND FROM 5.5% DOWN TO 4 BE
12:15:11PM -- 4.5%.
12:15:12PM MUNICIPAL MARKET TO A MORE NORMAL ENVIRONMENT LOSING EN
12:15:20PM VERSION, TRIPLE INDEX FROM 2% TO 4% OFF 30 YEARS.
12:15:26PM THE CHALLENGES THE CITY HAS PACED HAVEN'T BEEN JUST MARKET
12:15:32PM DRIVEN BUT WEATHER AS WELL.
12:15:33PM THIS CHART SHOULD SHOW YOU HOW THE CITY AND THE STAFF'S
12:15:37PM NIMBLENESS TO ENTER THE MARKET AT AN OPPORTUNE TIME AND
12:15:42PM PRINCIPAL REDUCTION AND INTEREST PAYMENTS.
12:15:45PM HELENE AND MILTON WANTED TO PLAY THEIR PART WITH HELENE
12:15:49PM MAKING LAND FALL DAYS BEFORE THE CITY WAS SET TO SELL $230
12:15:53PM MILLION IN WEAR AND WASTEWATER AND IDENTIFIED IMPACTS TO THE
12:15:57PM SYSTEM IN REALTIME AND RELAYED THAT INFORMATION TO THE
12:16:00PM CITY'S FINANCING TEAM AND THEN SYSTEM NATING THAT
12:16:03PM INFORMATION TO THE RATING AGENCIES AND THE MARKET AS A
12:16:06PM WHOLE, MINIMIZING ANY IMPACT ON PRICING.
12:16:09PM THE CITY'S TEAM IS PRIMARILY LOCAL AND DEAL WITH IMPACT WITH
12:16:13PM MANY HOMES INCLUDING THOSE OF YOUR UNDERWRITER, FINANCIAL
12:16:16PM ADVISORS AROUND LAWYERS ALL EXPERIENCING SIGNIFICANT FLOOD
12:16:21PM AND EVACUATING INDIVIDUAL.
12:16:22PM WE GOT TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN WITH MILTON MAKING LANDU
12:16:27PM LANDFALL.
12:16:27PM AND THE CITY AND ITS TEAM HAD A SUCCESSFUL CLOSING ON
12:16:33PM OCTOBER 17.
12:16:34PM I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE ABILITY OF THE CITY'S WATER
12:16:37PM AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM TO BOTH MANAGE THE IMPACT OF BOTH
12:16:40PM STORMS AND THE ABILITY TO MONITOR THE IMPACTS IN REALTIME
12:16:44PM STAND IN STARK CONTRAST TO MANY OF THE CITY'S NEIGHBORS AND
12:16:47PM THE CITY'S FORESIGHT TO INVEST HEAVILY INTO ITS UTILITIES
12:16:51PM HAD IT IN GOOD STEAD.
12:16:53PM WELL, THAT ALL LAYS OUT WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, WE WANT TO MAKE
12:16:58PM SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AHEAD.
12:17:01PM A GROWING PUSH IN WASHINGTON TO ELIMINATE TAX EXEMPTION.
12:17:05PM NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SEEN THIS.
12:17:07PM IN 2017, THE END RESULT BEING THE LIMITATION OF ADVANCED
12:17:13PM FUNDINGS WHICH COST THE CITY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
12:17:15PM TAX FINANCING HAS BEEN A BOON TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS
12:17:18PM THE COUNTRY AND IN PARTICULAR IN TAMPA.
12:17:20PM IN THE 14th DISTRICT ALONE, $14 BILLION IN OUTSTANDING
12:17:24PM PRINCIPAL IN LOCAL AND OUTSTANDING TAX RELIEF BOND I DON'T
12:17:27PM OUT STANDING.
12:17:28PM WHEN YOU TAKE STATE-FUNDED PROJECTS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT, IT
12:17:33PM RISE TODAY 25 BILLION.
12:17:35PM THESE PROJECTS ARE ALL ACROSS THE BOARD MANY OF WHICH THE
12:17:40PM CITY IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR.
12:17:41PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT MANY OF THE
12:17:44PM CITY'S CURRENT RATES IN ALL OF THE PROJECTION ARE BASED ON
12:17:48PM THE EXPECTATION OF TAX EXEMPT BORROWING.
12:17:52PM IF THIS GOES AWAY BORROWING WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE AND
12:17:56PM REDUCING PROJECT LISTS AND INCREASING RATES TO MEET THOSE
12:18:00PM INCREASED COST.
12:18:06PM TODAY, THE GFOA HAS OPINION LEADING THE IMPACT OF.
12:18:13PM IT IS NOT ENOUGH.
12:18:14PM IMPORTANT THAT THE HOUSE AND SENATE UNDER STAND THE VITAL
12:18:17PM ROLE THAT TAX EXEMPT DEBT FOR THE CONSTITUENTS AND THAT YOU
12:18:23PM AS ELECTED OFFICIALS GO THROUGH AND MAKE AWARE OF THE
12:18:26PM PROBLEMS THAT ARE BEING FUNDED HERE LOCALLY THROUGH THOSE.
12:18:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:18:40PM AGAIN, HE MENTIONED SOME OF THEM IN FLEXIBILITY AND
12:18:43PM EXPERTISE.
12:18:44PM AND THAT WAS WONDERFUL TIMING FOR OUR THIRD PIPES ISSUANCE
12:18:50PM AND OF COURSE DARK CLOUDS ON THE HORIZON IN THE EVENT,
12:18:54PM EXCUSE ME, AT THAT TAX EXEMPT FINDINGS GO AWAY.
12:18:58PM VERY ADVERSE IMPACT.
12:18:59PM IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP AGAIN, PLEASE.
12:19:01PM NOW WE WILL GET INTO OUR CREDIT RATINGS, FINANCING AND
12:19:05PM BONDING CAPACITY.
12:19:06PM START FIRST WITH OUR RATINGS.
12:19:10PM AGAIN, IT IS ALWAYS NICE AND EASY TO SHARE GOOD NEWS.
12:19:13PM COUNCIL WILL REMEMBER THIS SLIDE I THINK FROM JUST A FEW
12:19:16PM MONTHS AGO. WE ARE UP SEVEN CREDIT RATING UPGRADE SINCE
12:19:22PM 2019.
12:19:23PM AGAIN, I CONGRATULATED COUNCIL THEN.
12:19:26PM I WILL CONGRATULATE THEM NOW.
12:19:28PM I WILL REMIND COUNCIL THAT ALL OF THE AAAs YOU SEE THERE
12:19:33PM CAPITAL As OR SMALL As ARE THE BEST YOU CAN GET AND WE HAVE
12:19:38PM QUITE A FEW OF THEM NOW.
12:19:39PM I SAID WE WERE BREATHING VERY RARE AIR LAST YEAR.
12:19:43PM WE ARE BREATHING VERY RARE AIR NOW.
12:19:46PM HOW RARE IS THAT?
12:19:47PM WELL, THAT TOP LINE, I WILL REMIND COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC,
12:19:50PM THAT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF OUR FICO.
12:19:53PM IF I AM DENNIS, MY FICO SCORE WILL BE THAT.
12:19:56PM JUST ABOUT AS GOOD AS YOU CAN GET.
12:19:59PM I SAY JUST ABOUT GOOD AS YOU CAN GET.
12:20:02PM HOT OFF THE PRESSES YOU MAY RECALL, COUNCIL, THAT WE WERE
12:20:05PM TIED FOR NUMBER TWO IN A COMPARISON OF OUR PEER CITIES LAST
12:20:09PM YEAR -- YOU SEE HERE.
12:20:15PM WE ARE NOT NUMBER ONE.
12:20:16PM WE ARE NOT NUMBER ONE YET.
12:20:17PM WE ARE NO LONGER TIED.
12:20:19PM A SOLID SECOND PLACE.
12:20:20PM INTAKE THAT -- NATIONWIDE.
12:20:22PM PEER COMPARISON.
12:20:25PM AND LAST YEAR YOU MAY RECALL -- AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T, AND
12:20:28PM I DO.
12:20:29PM MINNEAPOLIS -- PARDON ME -- AND INDIANAPOLIS WERE TIED FOR
12:20:33PM FIRST PLACE.
12:20:33PM ARLINGTON HAS DROPPED A NOTCH.
12:20:35PM WE ARE UP A NOTCH.
12:20:36PM JUST THE TWO OF US NOW AND WE WILL STAY AT IT.
12:20:42PM AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING I AM BASHING THESE OTHER CITIES.
12:20:45PM WANT TO CLARIFY AS I DID LAST YEAR, THESE ARE ALL FANTASTIC
12:20:50PM CREDIT RATINGS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE CITIES.
12:20:53PM THEY ARE VERY, VERY FOOD.
12:20:54PM OURS JUST HAPPEN TO BE VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD.
12:20:57PM AGAIN, A TEAM EFFORT.
12:21:00PM THE MAYOR.
12:21:01PM IT'S COUNCIL.
12:21:01PM IT IS REVENUE AND FINANCE.
12:21:04PM MIKE PERRY AND THE PROFESSIONALS THAT I JUST INTRODUCED.
12:21:08PM WE HAVE A FANTASTIC HISTORY.
12:21:09PM AND WE HOPE TO IMPROVE UPON IT IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT
12:21:13PM MINNEAPOLIS.
12:21:16PM YOU SEE SOME OF STRONG COMMENTS FROM THE RATING AGENCIES TO
12:21:19PM THE RIGHT.
12:21:19PM I WILL REITERATE THEM NOW.
12:21:21PM STRONG GOVERNANCE.
12:21:22PM VERY STRONG BUDGET FLEXIBILITY.
12:21:25PM WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON THAT PROACTIVE RISK MANAGEMENT AND, OF
12:21:29PM COURSE, OUR BUDGET RESERVES AND OUR EMPHASIS ON FUND
12:21:32PM BALANCE.
12:21:32PM JUMP IN NOW TO TOTAL CITY FINANCING.
12:21:40PM A QUICK REFRESH SINCE THIS IS A COUNTY THAT IS NOT QUITE AS
12:21:43PM SIMPLE AS TELLING YOU EVERYTHING WE OWE.
12:21:46PM TWO MAIN CATEGORIES.
12:21:47PM GOVERNMENTAL DEBT AND ENTERPRISE DEBT AND SUBCATEGORIES AND
12:21:50PM SUBCATEGORIES WITHIN SUBCATEGORIES -- I WON'T BELABOR THEM NOW.
12:22:01PM NON-AD VALOREM, CIT AND THE ENTERPRISE DEBT AND WE WILL
12:22:06PM HIGHLIGHT EACH ONE OF THOSE AS WE GIVE YOU A COMPLETE
12:22:08PM PICTURE.
12:22:08PM HERE YOU CAN SEE THE COMPONENTS COMPARED TO EACH OTHER AND
12:22:14PM THEIR DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
12:22:15PM WE ARE CONCENTRATING ON PRINCIPLE.
12:22:18PM WE GET TO INTEREST.
12:22:20PM ALL TOTALED UNDER $1.4 BILLION IN TOTAL PRINCIPAL ACROSS ALL
12:22:25PM FUND AS OF THE END OF LAST YEAR.
12:22:27PM YOU SEE IN THE UPPER LEFT THERE AS OF SEPTEMBER 30, 2024 AS
12:22:35PM IS OUR STANDARD PRACTICE, WE TYPICALLY TRY TO COINCIDE THIS
12:22:39PM WITH OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WHICH ALSO END SEPTEMBER 30,
12:22:44PM 2024.
12:22:45PM BUT -- AND I WILL HIGHLIGHT THEM AS WE GO ALONE.
12:22:47PM WE MADE SOME EXCEPTIONS IN THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE WANT
12:22:52PM TO GIVE COUNCIL UP TO IN INOR UP TO THE WEEK INFORMATION AS
12:22:57PM TO HOW MUCH WE ARE INDEBTED IN CITY.
12:23:00PM MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE IN SEPTEMBER 30 WILL TIE UP FINANCIAL
12:23:06PM STATEMENTS NICE AND CONSISTENT SO ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED
12:23:08PM CAN FOLLOW.
12:23:09PM WE SHOWED THIS THANKS YEAR AND I ADMIT A VERY, VERY BUSY
12:23:20PM SLIDE AND I WON'T GO INTO IT IN DETAIL, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE
12:23:24PM IS THE DRASTIC INCREASE.
12:23:25PM GREEN LINE IN THE PROPORTION OF OUR DEBT -- OUR PRINCIPAL TO
12:23:29PM OUR BUDGET.
12:23:30PM YOU SEE 25 YEARS AGO, OUR PRINCIPAL WAS ABOUT TWICE WHAT OUR
12:23:36PM BUDGET WAS FOR THE ENTIRELY OF THE CITY.
12:23:38PM IT STARTED DECREASING YEAR AFTER YEAR AND PRETTY MUCH
12:23:43PM LEVELED OUT TO THE PERCENTAGES YOU SEE THERE MEANWHILE, THE
12:23:51PM PURPLE LINE, THE BUDGET HAS INCREASED JUST ABOUT EVERY YEAR.
12:23:54PM STARTING OFF, YOU SEE IN THE BOBBIC BOXES THERE, AGAIN, OVER
12:23:58PM TWICE AS MUCH AS THE BUDGET 25 YEARS AGO.
12:24:01PM SO FROM A MACRO PERSPECTIVE WE LIKE TO DECLINE AND LEVELING
12:24:07PM OUT.
12:24:08PM AGAIN, MANY, MANY ISSUES TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
12:24:10PM YOU LOOK AT THE UPPER LEFT, ONE OF THOSE SLIDES WHERE WE
12:24:14PM HAVE INCLUDED ALL OF OUR ISSUANCES AS JANUARY 31, 2025.
12:24:20PM INCLUDES THE SOLID WASTE ISSUANCE WE DID AFTER SEPTEMBER 30
12:24:25PM INCLUDES THAT THIRD PIPE ISSUANCE WE TALKED ABOUT AFTER
12:24:29PM SEPTEMBER 30.
12:24:32PM AND AGAIN, UP TO THE MINUTE OR AT LEAST UP TO THE WEEK
12:24:38PM INFORMATION FOR OUR TOTALITY PRINCIPLE AND INTEREST.
12:24:41PM YOU KNOW AS WE SAID BEFORE, YOU SHOULDN'T BALK ABOUT DEBT
12:24:48PM UNTIL YOU TALK OF PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.
12:24:50PM $1.6 BILLION IN PRINCIPAL AND 70% OF THAT JUST UNDER $1.2.
12:25:00PM YOU SEE ON THE LOWER RIGHT THERE 2.7, 2.8 BILLION AS OF
12:25:09PM JANUARY 31.
12:25:10PM CONTINUING WITH OUR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST IN A MACRO
12:25:18PM PERSPECTIVE.
12:25:18PM IF YOU LOOK TO THE TOP THERE YOU NOTICE WE ARE BACK MATCHING
12:25:23PM THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
12:25:24PM YOU SEE A NICE DECLINING AND SMOOTH PICTURE, ACCEPT THAT
12:25:28PM JUMP IN 2029.
12:25:29PM AND THAT IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
12:25:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THE FINAL PAYMENT FOR THE WASTE TO
12:25:37PM ENERGY FACILITY WHICH IS A NON-AD VALOREM DEBT, PAID FOR BY
12:25:42PM SOLID WASTE FUNDS.
12:25:42PM WE INTEND AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED TO ISSUE SEPARATE LONG-TERM
12:25:49PM DATE UNDER THE SOLID WASTE CROWN GOING FORWARD.
12:25:52PM SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THAT VERY LARGE LEAP GETS SPREAD OUT
12:26:00PM IN ORANGE ONCE WITH WE VIEW THAT.
12:26:03PM WE ARE NOT TALK BEING THAT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THE CURREN
12:26:06PM SITUATION.
12:26:07PM OBVIOUSLY A NOTICEABLE ANOMALY DEPENDING ON THE DECLINE.
12:26:12PM AND A SLIGHT DECLINE ON WHAT WE PLAN BLESS YOU.
12:26:22PM AND TO TALK OF OUR NON-AD VALOREM FINANCING, MISS CLARK WILL
12:26:27PM COME UP HERE AND TAKE YOU THROUGH THAT.
12:26:29PM AND A LITTLE MORE -- AND MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE DETAIL.
12:26:32PM IF WE CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
12:26:46PM >> GOOD MORNING -- GOOD AFTERNOON, MOLLY CLARK, SENIOR
12:26:50PM MANAGING DIRECTOR WITH PUBLIC ADVISORY GROUP.
12:26:53PM WE SERVE THE CITY AS GENERAL ADVISOR TO THE GENERAL
12:26:56PM GOVERNMENT CREDITS AS WELL AS TO THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT.
12:26:59PM THE PIE CHART ON THIS SLIDE WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING THE CITY'S
12:27:04PM OUTSTANDING NON-AD VALOREM DEBT APPROXIMATELY 480 MILLION IN
12:27:09PM OUTSTANDING BOND THAT MAKE UP 35% OF THE CITY'S TOTAL DEBT
12:27:14PM PORTFOLIO.
12:27:15PM THIS SLIDE IS SIMILAR TO THE PROCEEDING SLIDE THAT DENNIS
12:27:21PM SPOKE TO, ALTHOUGH THIS STRIPS OUT THE ENTERPRISE FUND DEBT
12:27:24PM AND SHOWS ONLY THE NON-AD VALOREM DEBT.
12:27:27PM YOU CAN SEE NON-AD VALOREM DEBT IS MADE OF FINANCING FOR
12:27:31PM GOVERNMENT PROJECTS, PARKING, TAMPA SPORTS AUTHORITY,
12:27:34PM TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX, SOLID WASTE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
12:27:37PM AS DENNIS SPOKE TO EARLIER, YOU CAN SEE THAT YEAR 2029 IS AN
12:27:43PM OUTLIER.
12:27:44PM THE REASON THERE IS THAT A BANK LOAN THAT THE CITY CLOSEDED
12:27:49PM IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR IS SCHEDULED FOR ALL MATURITY.
12:27:53PM ALL PRINCIPAL TO MATURE IN 2029.
12:27:56PM IN FACT THAT PRINCIPAL WILL BE REFINANCED BEFORE IT MATURES.
12:28:00PM THAT 2029 YEAR, WE WILL NEVER ACTUALLY REACH THAT POINT IN
12:28:03PM TIME.
12:28:03PM WE WILL SPREAD IT OUT OVER ACROSS SEVERAL YEARS INTO THE
12:28:06PM FUTURE BEFORE WE GET TO THE MATURITY DATE.
12:28:09PM AS THINGS STAND NOW, IN 2025 THROUGH 2028, THE CITY HAS
12:28:14PM APPROXIMATELY IN THE LOW 40 MILLIONS PER YEAR ANNUAL DEBT
12:28:19PM SERVICE UNDER THE NON-AD VALOREM CREDIT.
12:28:22PM 2029 IS SORT OF ITS OWN YEAR THAT WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THAT
12:28:28PM DEBT WILL SPREAD FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE BEFORE WE REACH
12:28:31PM THAT 2029 DATE.
12:28:32PM AFTER 2029 AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE DROPS
12:28:36PM OFF SIGNIFICANTLY.
12:28:38PM AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THERE, MID-TEENS.
12:28:40PM MID MILLIONS OF TEENS EACH YEAR THROUGH 2051.
12:28:44PM OF THIS SLIDE LOOKS AT JUST PRINCIPAL AND WHAT YOUR
12:28:52PM OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL IN 2024 TO 2051 PRINCIPAL
12:29:01PM DECLINES OVER TIME AND WILL BE PAID OFF WHERE WE STAND FOR
12:29:06PM TODAY BY 2051.
12:29:11PM BETWEEN 2024 AND 2029 IS THE SOLID WASTE BANK LOAN THAT WILL
12:29:16PM BE SPREAD OUT SEVERAL YEARS INTO THE FUTURE AS WE GO
12:29:19PM FORWARD.
12:29:19PM AND WITH THAT, I WILL RETURN THE MIC TO DENNIS.
12:29:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
12:29:24PM AND YOU CAN SEE A RECURRING EMPHASIS ON EITHER LEVELING OR
12:29:29PM DECLINES IN OUR OBLIGATIONS.
12:29:31PM AGAIN, KEEPING CAPACITY, WHICH I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT --
12:29:35PM TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT OPEN.
12:29:38PM GOAL A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEPER DIVE INTO A NON-AD VALOREM
12:29:45PM FROM A CATEGORY AND PROBABLY PERSPECTIVE.
12:29:47PM BIG PICTURE YOU SEE HERE, FIRE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY
12:29:52PM PROJECTS, ETC.
12:29:52PM RIGHT NOW, WE PLAN ON ISSUING THE FIRST COLUMN TO THE LEFT,
12:29:58PM 2025.
12:30:00PM LITTLE UNDER $81 MILLION.
12:30:02PM WE HAVE SUCCESSIVE ISSUANCES.
12:30:10PM YEARS ONE, TWO AND THREE.
12:30:12PM BASED ON THE TIMING OF PROJECT, THE APPROVAL OF SOME OF THE
12:30:16PM PROBLEMS BY CITY COUNCIL.
12:30:17PM AND THE TIMING OF THE NEED FOR THE MONEY.
12:30:19PM WE -- WE TYPICALLY AND WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE AVOID
12:30:27PM BORROWING MONEY, PAYING INTEREST ON IT AND NOT SPENDING IT.
12:30:30PM WE TIME OUR BORROWING TO COINCIDE WHEN THE FUNDING WILL BE
12:30:33PM NEEDED.
12:30:33PM YOU SEE THE MAJOR CATEGORIES THERE AND DRILLING DOWN INTO
12:30:42PM THE DIFFERENT AND, OF COURSE, RIGHT AT THE TOP
12:30:45PM THERE IS THE FIRE STATION 24.
12:30:47PM AND THE REST OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
12:30:49PM SPEAKING OF FIRE STATION 24 RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
12:30:54PM THEY WILL NEED THE ENTIRETY OF THAT MONEY WHEN WE ISSUE OUR
12:30:57PM DEBT, PROBABLY AROUND THE SUMMER.
12:30:59PM PROBABLY 1.8 ON DECK.
12:31:02PM AND THE $24 MILLION AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE DEPENDING ON
12:31:06PM PROGRESS.
12:31:07PM TIMING PROGRESS OF PROJECT.
12:31:08PM YOU SEE THAT CARRY ON SUCCESSIVELY THROUGH EACH FIRE
12:31:13PM DEPARTMENT PROBABLY.
12:31:13PM AND YOU WILL SEE IT WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS ALSO.
12:31:19PM MOVING INTO PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE TPD HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT.
12:31:24PM AGAIN $4 MILLION.
12:31:26PM WE ANTICIPATE ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS YEAR WITH THE
12:31:29PM OVERWHELMING MAJORITY IN A SUCCESSIVE ISSUANCE BASED ON WHEN
12:31:38PM WE THINK WE WILL NEED THAT FUNDING.
12:31:39PM OVER TO THE FAR RIGHT, JUST UNDER $45.3 MILLION.
12:31:43PM I WILL SAY THE ISSUANCE AMOUNTS ARE ON THE HIGH TIDE BY
12:31:50PM DESIGN.
12:31:51PM MANY OF THESE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY BEING DONE BASED ON
12:31:57PM PROJECT APPROVAL.
12:31:58PM WHETHER THE PROBABLY IN ITS ENTIRELY LIKE THE EAST TAMPA
12:32:01PM RECREATIONAL COMPLEX OR THE IMPOUND ANNEX FOR TPD WHEREAS,
12:32:09PM AGAIN, DESIGN SITE IMPROVEMENTS WERE APPROVED THESE ISSUANCE
12:32:14PM NUMBERS REMAIN A MOVING TARGET BASED ON WHEN THEY WILL NEED
12:32:18PM THE MONEY AGAIN OR HOW MUCH THEY ARE GOING TO NEED BECAUSE
12:32:24PM WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE ABSOLUTE EXPENSES.
12:32:29PM PURCHASES AND ENCUMBRANCES THAT MAYBE LEGALLY OUT THE DOOR
12:32:33PM AND MAY CHANGE AS THE PROBABLY CONTINUES.
12:32:35PM SO YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THESE AMOUNTS TYPICALLY ON THE HIGH
12:32:42PM SIDE.
12:32:42PM WE WOULD RATHER BRING YOU THE HIGHEST SCENARIO AND THEN
12:32:47PM LOWER IT RATHER THAN -- RATHER THAN THE REVERSE.
12:32:50PM WHEN WE CAN.
12:32:54PM CONTINUING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
12:32:56PM YOU CAN SEE THE CONVENTION CENTER.
12:32:58PM YOU HAVE SOME GENERAL PROJECTS AT HANNAH AVENUE
12:33:03PM RELOCATION OUR PLANNED ISSUANCE BASED ON THE TOTAL COST OF
12:33:07PM THIS PROJECT AND THE TWO RELATIVELY NEW HOUSING ITEMS THAT
12:33:12PM COUNCIL APPROVED PRESENTLY FROM BLUE TAMPA TOO AND
12:33:19PM THE AFLO LCC.
12:33:20PM I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT IS, BUT $10 MILLION OF HOUSING.
12:33:23PM I THINK COUNCIL WILL RECALL THAT AS WELL.
12:33:25PM IT IS RELATIVELY RECENT.
12:33:27PM WE TALKED ABOUT AND I RECENTLY JUST MENTIONED THE EAST TAMPA
12:33:33PM RECREATION CENTER.
12:33:34PM $38 MILLION IS WHAT WE PLAN TO BRING TO CITY COUNCIL THIS
12:33:38PM SUMMER TO ISSUE WHAT WE THINK WILL BE THE ENTIRETY OF THE
12:33:43PM DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT.
12:33:45PM SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
12:33:49PM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
12:33:50PM I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON RECALLED THAT THE AMOUNT OF
12:33:53PM FUND HAD BEEN INCREASED AND YOU SEE THAT REFLECTED
12:33:55PM HERE.
12:33:56PM $3.6 MILLION AND ANY NUMBER OF ANY PROJECTS AND PARKS AND
12:34:02PM RECREATION AND MOBILITY.
12:34:04PM I WILL NOTE THE UNITED ASHLEY PROJECTS THIRD FROM THE
12:34:08PM BOTTOM UNDER MOBILITY PROJECTS.
12:34:10PM COUNCIL MAY RECALL A PRESENTATION RECENTLY ABOUT THAT
12:34:13PM PROJECT.
12:34:14PM COUNCIL CONTINUED IT TO ANOTHER DATE.
12:34:16PM I ASK COUNCIL TO RECALL THAT THE FUTURE FUNDING WE HAD -- WE
12:34:21PM HAD -- WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY
12:34:25PM IN HOW WE GO ABOUT FUNDING THAT.
12:34:29PM THIS IS JUST ONE POSSIBILITY.
12:34:30PM WE MENTIONED THE C.I.T. RENEWAL, WHICH I WILL SPEAK TO IN
12:34:34PM JUST A MOMENT.
12:34:34PM WE ALSO MENTIONED CRA FUNDING.
12:34:37PM BUT, AGAIN, WE WANT TO GIVE COUNCIL THE HIGHEST DOLLAR
12:34:41PM AMOUNT ESTIMATES THAT WE CAN SO YOU ARE NOT SURPRISED, AND
12:34:46PM THE MAYOR IS NOT SURPRISED.
12:34:48PM I AM NOT SURPRISED WITH INCREASES IN THE FUTURE, AT LEAST AS
12:34:53PM MUCH AS WE CAN AVOID IT.
12:34:55PM THE HOUSING PROGRAM FUNDS AGREEMENT.
12:35:02PM RECENT APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL.
12:35:04PM MR. MILLER -- STEVE MILLER, OUR BOND COUNSEL, INTRICACIES
12:35:10PM AND NUANCES ASSOCIATED THIS THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO
12:35:14PM BETTER THAN I.
12:35:15PM >> THANK YOU, DENNIS.
12:35:17PM STEVE MILLER WITH NABORS, NICHOLSON.
12:35:22PM BOND COUNSEL TO THE CITY.
12:35:26PM IN EX-SLIDE.
12:35:27PM THE HOUSING FUND LOAN AGREEMENTS.
12:35:30PM YOU DO THE GO THE IT?
12:35:31PM OKAY.
12:35:31PM WE WANTED TO EXPLAIN THIS ONE BECAUSE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
12:35:34PM APPROVAL PROCESS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ASK US TO
12:35:37PM PARTICIPATE IN DIFFERENT THAN PRIOR APPROVALS THAT THE
12:35:41PM COUNCIL HAS GIVEN.
12:35:42PM AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS TRANSACTION, WE WILL COME BACK
12:35:47PM TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A GENERAL BOND RESOLUTION THAT WILL
12:35:50PM LOOK SIMILAR TO OTHERS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED IN THE PAST
12:35:52PM UTILIZING THE COVENANT TO BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE NON-AD
12:35:58PM VALOREM REVENUE TO PAY THE DEBT FOR LOANS TO THE DEVELOPERS
12:36:00PM OF THESE PROJECTS.
12:36:02PM IN THIS CASE THOUGH, ONCE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE GENERAL
12:36:07PM BOND RESOLUTION.
12:36:07PM WE SEEK ON THE CITY'S BEHALF A VALIDATION PROCESS.
12:36:15PM THE CITY HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN A LONG TIME.
12:36:17PM BUT UNDER FLORIDA LAW, A STATUTORY PROCESS TO TAKE A DEBT
12:36:22PM ISSUANCE TO THE CIRCUIT COURT IN ORDER TO -- TO IDENTIFY --
12:36:29PM IF YOU HAVE A LEGAL ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT YOU
12:36:31PM NEED SOME CLARIFICATION FROM COURT AND THEIR APPROVAL, YOU
12:36:34PM CAN TAKE IT TO THE COURT AND GET THEIR BLESSING AND
12:36:37PM DETERMINATION ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR LEGAL ISSUES YOU MAY
12:36:40PM HAVE.
12:36:40PM WE HAVE A LEGAL ISSUE WITH REGARD TO THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING
12:36:44PM DEBT THAT WE PROPOSE TO DO TO PROVIDE LOANS TO THESE
12:36:47PM DEVELOPERS.
12:36:48PM IT IS A VERY -- IT IS A FAIRLY SIMPLE LEGAL ISSUE BUT ONCE
12:36:51PM WE RECOMMENDED THAT WE GO TO THE COURT AND GET THEIR
12:36:54PM BLESSING FOR.
12:36:54PM IT WILL PREVENT LEGAL CHALLENGES TO THE DEBT ONCE IT IS
12:36:59PM ISSUED.
12:36:59PM UNDER FLORIDA LAW, WHEN THE CITY OR ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT
12:37:02PM ISSUES DEBT FOR A GENERAL GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSE, WHETHER IT
12:37:05PM IS ROADS, WATER SEWER SYSTEMS, SOLID WASTE.
12:37:08PM SOMETHING THAT IS A GENERAL PROJECT, THE STANDARD IS, THAT
12:37:12PM HAS GOT TO MEET.
12:37:13PM GOT TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR THE PROJECT.
12:37:18PM UP ISSUE DEBT AND USE THE CITY'S CREDIT FOR A PROBABLY WHERE
12:37:21PM A PRIVATE ENTITY IS GOING TO DERIVE MORE THAN AN
12:37:26PM UNSUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT, THEN THE STANDARD IS NOT A PUBLIC
12:37:30PM PURPOSE BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE HAVE A PARAMOUNT.
12:37:37PM THE FAMOUS DAYS WHEN FORMER MAYOR POE CHALLENGED ORIGINAL
12:37:42PM RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM BACK IN '90s OF DOING THOSE BONDS.
12:37:47PM THAT VALIDATION CASE WENT TO THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT THAT
12:37:51PM DID DETERMINE THAT THE BUILDING OF THE STADIUM DID
12:37:55PM CONSTITUTE A GOVERNMENT PURPOSE.
12:37:57PM BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS OF THIS PROJECT WILL BE
12:37:59PM GETTING MORE THAN SUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT FROM YOU ALL ISSUING
12:38:03PM DEBT AND LOANING THOSE PROCEED, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT WE
12:38:06PM SHOULD GO TO THE SECTOR COURT FOR THAT PROCESS.
12:38:08PM SO IT TAKES A COUPLE OF MONTHS, TWO TO THREE MONTHS TO GET
12:38:12PM THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
12:38:13PM ONCE THAT VALIDATION IS SUCCESSFULLY SOUGHT, THE CITY WILL
12:38:20PM GO THROUGH ITS NORMAL RFP TO GET A LOAN FACILITY FOR
12:38:25PM THE LOAN AGREEMENTS AND COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH ALL
12:38:31PM SPECIFICS LIKE WE USUALLY HAVE WITH THE TRANSITION DETAILS,
12:38:33PM WHAT THE BANK FACILITY, TERMS AND INTEREST RATES AND SUCH TO
12:38:38PM BE ASKED TO APPROVE THE TRANSACTION AFTER THE VALUETATION
12:38:40PM AND GO THROUGH THE NORMAL TRANSACTION PROCESS AND FINALIZE
12:38:47PM AND CLOSE IT.
12:38:47PM I WANT TO EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE IT WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
12:38:50PM YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST.
12:38:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:38:53PM SIMPLE.
12:38:54PM I HAVE KNOW WE ARE THROWING A LOT OF DETAILED INFORMATION
12:39:01PM AND A METHOD TO OUR MADNESS THAT WE WILL EXPLAIN IN JUST A
12:39:04PM LITTLE BIT.
12:39:04PM UPCOMING POTENTIAL FINANCING.
12:39:08PM AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS SLIDES AND CONSISTENT
12:39:11PM WITH WHAT IS OUR PLAN AT THIS TIME.
12:39:15PM I REMIND COUNCIL JUST LIKE THE EMERGENCY, PLANS CHANGE.
12:39:19PM AND THIS MAY ALSO CHANGE ALSO.
12:39:21PM I WILL TOUCH ON THAT IN A MOMENT.
12:39:22PM THE NEXT MAJOR STEP IS TO BRING YOU DEBT ISSUANCE FOR THOSE
12:39:26PM PROJECTS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
12:39:28PM WHY A LITTLE BIT MORE?
12:39:30PM SHOULD COUNCIL APPROVE PROJECTS, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO START
12:39:33PM WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL KNOWS NOW WEATHER THEY WANT TO ISSUE
12:39:39PM DEBT OR NOT.
12:39:40PM AS COUNCIL WILL REMEMBER, THAT IS WHAT REIMBURSEMENT
12:39:43PM RESOLUTIONS ARE FOR.
12:39:44PM COUNCIL APPROVES REIMBURSEMENT FOR PROJECT A, WE CAN START
12:39:51PM WORKING ON PROJECT A AND SPEND MONEY ON PROJECT A.
12:39:55PM DOES NOT OBLIGATE COUNCIL.
12:39:58PM IF WE ISSUE DEBT, PAY OURSELVES BACK FOR THE FUNDING WE ARE
12:40:01PM SPENDING ALL IN AN ATTEMPT TO EXPEDITE PROJECTS INSTEAD OF
12:40:07PM WAITING ON THE FINANCING.
12:40:09PM WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE.
12:40:10PM I THINK WE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND PRETTY MUCH THE NEXT STEP.
12:40:17PM LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BARRING ANY CHANGES AND WE WILL
12:40:20PM SPEAK TO THAT IN A MOMENT THIS SUMMER.
12:40:23PM THIS A LITTLE REDUNDANT AND DUPLICATIVE.
12:40:27PM BUT YOU SEE A TOTAL ON BOTTOM WITH THE PROJECT THAT COUNCIL
12:40:31PM MAY DECIDE TO FUND WITH DEBT, AND MAY NOT.
12:40:34PM NOW I AM GOING TO ASK MISS CLARK TO COME BACK WITH THE
12:40:44PM POTENTIAL FUTURE FINANCING.
12:40:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE PAUSE FOR A MOMENT.
12:40:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY HAVE A LONG STUFF.
12:40:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION.
12:40:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STILL 19 MORE SLIDES.
12:40:57PM LET'S JUST WAIT TO THE END.
12:41:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN.
12:41:00PM JUST TO SET THE TABLE.
12:41:02PM EVERYTHING WE SHARE WITH YOU IS WHAT ALREADY HAS OCCURRED
12:41:05PM AND WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING FROM A PROJECT DOLLARS AND CENTS.
12:41:10PM LITTLE MORE OF A DETAILED PERSPECTIVE THAT MISS CLARK WILL
12:41:14PM SHARE FROM A MACRO PERSPECTIVE WHAT THE EXISTING PLAN IS.
12:41:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL TAKE.
12:41:25PM JUST TELL ME NEXT SLIDE.
12:41:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO EXTEND TIME.
12:41:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT YET, HOW MANY DO YOU WANT TO EXTEND.
12:41:34PM >> MOLLY CLARK.
12:41:36PM THIS SLIDE PRESENTS WHAT THE DEBT SERVICE PICTURE WILL LOOK
12:41:39PM LIKE AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF THE PERSPECTIVE DEBT ISSUES.
12:41:44PM WE WILL TAKE THE DEBT SERVICE THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAVE
12:41:48PM IN PLACE INTO ACCOUNT AND STRUCTURE THE NEW DEBT SERVICE
12:41:51PM AROUND THE EXISTING DEBT SERVICE SO YOU ARE PAYING AN
12:41:55PM OVERALL APPROXIMATELY LEVEL AMOUNT OF DEBT SERVICE IN EACH
12:41:58PM YEAR GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.
12:42:00PM YOU CAN SEE WE REACHED 2055.
12:42:04PM WE ARE -- WE ARE AT A PLATEAU GENERALLY.
12:42:07PM AN THEN 56, 57 AND 58 SORT OF TRAIL OFF.
12:42:11PM THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT EACH OF THE FUTURE ISSUES WE ARE
12:42:14PM LOOKING AT WILL BE MOST LIKELY STRUCTURED AS A 30-YEAR DEAL.
12:42:18PM SO YOUR ISSUANCE IN 2026 WILL SEE ITS FINAL MATURITY IN
12:42:24PM 2056.
12:42:24PM 2027 WILL MATURE IN 2057 AND 2028 WILL MATURE IN 2058.
12:42:30PM AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN TIME, YOUR SET SERVICE STRUCTURE
12:42:34PM TRAILS OFF AS YOU SEE HERE IN THIS SLIDE.
12:42:37PM NEXT SLIDE.
12:42:38PM AGAIN, HERE, THIS -- THIS INCLUDES THE -- THE LARGE PAYMENT
12:42:44PM YOU CAN SEE IN 2029, AGAIN, THAT WILL GO AWAY, BUT THIS
12:42:48PM TAKES -- THIS IS, AGAIN, ALL OF THE NORTHERN AD VALOREM AT
12:42:52PM THE TIME SERVICE SHOWN OUT THROUGH THE 30-YEAR PERIOD.
12:42:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN POSTSCRIPT THAT, UPPER RIGHT,
12:43:00PM TOTAL PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ACCORDING TO THIS PLAN, JUST
12:43:03PM UNDER $1.29 MILLION -- OR $1.29 BILLION.
12:43:09PM THANK YOU.
12:43:14PM ALL RIGHT.
12:43:16PM AND THIS IS WHAT I HOPE TO BE THE METHOD TO OUR MADNESS.
12:43:20PM THIS IS WHY YOU HEAR ME TALKING ABOUT PLANS AND PLANS
12:43:24PM CHANGE.
12:43:24PM WE HAVE A PLAN, AGAIN, I SAID IT BEFORE LIKE TO SCUBA DIVE.
12:43:30PM YOU PLAN TO DIVE AN DIVE THE PLAN.
12:43:32PM DOESN'T MEAN THE PLAN CAN'T CHANGE.
12:43:34PM AND THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CHANGE THE PLAN DRASTICALLY.
12:43:37PM AGAIN, WE ARE VERY, VERY FORTUNATE.
12:43:39PM CIT WAS RENEWED ON -- LAST YEAR, YEAR BEFORE -- ANYWAY, BUT
12:43:46PM IT STARTS DECEMBER 1.
12:43:47PM LITTLE LESS THAN TWO YEARS AND GOING TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU
12:43:50PM KNOW IT.
12:43:50PM YOU SEE SOME OF THE ITEMS THERE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION
12:43:55PM PASSAGE OF IT.
12:43:56PM WE MAY PLEDGE THAT REVENUE FOR DEBT.
12:43:59PM YOU SEE THE CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED THERE.
12:44:01PM I WON'T READ THROUGH IT.
12:44:03PM WE MAY INCLUDE THESE REVENUES IN A NON-AD VALOREM DEBT
12:44:08PM ISSUANCE JUST AS WE HAVE DONE WITH SOLID WASTE.
12:44:10PM YOU SEE THE DISTRIBUTION.
12:44:12PM IT IS WELL-KNOWN.
12:44:13PM AND NOW WE WILL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
12:44:18PM AND HERE IS WHY.
12:44:19PM OVER TO THE FAR RIGHT BOTTOM, YOU CRA OVER THE COURSE OF
12:44:23PM FIVE YEARS, NOT FIVE FULL YEARS BECAUSE WE WILL ONLY GET TEN
12:44:26PM MONTHS IN THE FIRST YEAR, OVER --
12:44:30PM YOU SEE, AGAIN, THE CATEGORY PUBLIC SAFETY, TRANSPORTATION,
12:44:37PM ETC.
12:44:37PM WHAT THIS WILL PROVIDE THE MAYOR, WHAT THIS WILL PROVIDE THE
12:44:41PM CITY COUNCIL, WHAT THIS WILL PROVIDE THE CITY IS A GREAT
12:44:44PM DEAL OF FLEXIBILITY IN WHETHER COUNCIL WANTS TO APPROVE ALL
12:44:50PM OR PORTIONS OF THE DEBT PLAN WE JUST PRESENTED TO YOU.
12:44:54PM WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE CIT
12:44:58PM RENEWAL.
12:44:59PM SO IT IS NOT PART OF OUR PLAN.
12:45:01PM MAYBE WE DON'T FINANCE AS MUCH.
12:45:06PM MAYBE WE PAY GO MANY OF THOSE PROBLEMS.
12:45:08PM MAYBE WE DO A COMBINATION OF BOTH, SIMILAR TO OUR PIPES
12:45:12PM PROGRAM.
12:45:12PM SO WE RUSHED THROUGH THE INFORMATION A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I
12:45:16PM FULLY ANTICIPATE THE PLAN TO CHANGE.
12:45:20PM BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN FOR GUIDANCE TO TAKE ACTIONS
12:45:25PM NECESSARY AND PREPARATION OF THE BUDGET AND TO TAKE ACTIONS
12:45:29PM NECESSARY IN PREPARATION OF A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
12:45:32PM FOR YOUR REVIEW.
12:45:35PM WHAT I ANTICIPATE -- AND OF COURSE IT IS COUNCIL'S
12:45:38PM DISCRETION, IS MUCH MORE DISCUSSION ON WHAT IS GOING TO
12:45:41PM HAPPEN.
12:45:42PM AND HOW WE WANT TO ALLOCATE THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX
12:45:45PM FUNDING.
12:45:46PM FORTUNATELY, AGAIN, WE ARE NOT DID FOR ANY ACTIONS BY
12:45:51PM COUNCIL TODAY.
12:45:52PM FORTUNATELY BUDGET PREPARATION PROCESS IS STARTING FOR
12:45:55PM FISCAL YEAR '26.
12:45:57PM I THINK WE HAVE AMPLE TIME TO DISCUSS IT.
12:46:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO HOLD QUESTIONS UNTIL THE
12:46:11PM END.
12:46:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT CIP TAXES
12:46:16PM WHAT IT IS.
12:46:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 16 MORE SLIDES.
12:46:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE CAN ELABORATE AT THE END.
12:46:25PM MR. REID TO WALK THROUGH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER CURRENT --
12:46:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL RULE THAT SAYS WE
12:46:33PM SHOULD HAVE BREAKS IN THE PRESENTATION TO ALLOW FOR
12:46:35PM QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
12:46:36PM TRANSITING TO THE WASTEWATER FINANCING, THIS WOULD BE AN
12:46:41PM IMPORTANT QUESTION TO BREAK FOR QUESTIONS.
12:46:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU GOT TO THE MICROPHONE FIRST AND THEN
12:46:48PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:46:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO I HAVE A QUESTION.
12:46:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
12:46:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS CITY COUNCIL VOTES NO
12:47:00PM ON A DEBT ISSUANCE THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, A
12:47:04PM COUPLE OF THINGS.
12:47:05PM IF IT WAS -- MANY OF THEM -- AND A CONTRACT WAS LET AND THIS
12:47:09PM MONEY WAS SPENT, I WOULD DEFER TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HOW
12:47:13PM MUCH OF AN OBLIGATION WE HAVE.
12:47:15PM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, ACTUAL EXPENSES.
12:47:19PM MONEY OUT THE DOOR.
12:47:20PM WE WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH MONEY FROM SOME PLACE.
12:47:23PM MISS KOPESKY WAS NICE ENOUGH.
12:47:25PM THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR ALL YOUR ASSISTANCE TO SEND COUNCIL A
12:47:29PM REFRESHER REMAINING THEM WE HAVE ABOUT $55 MILLION OF
12:47:33PM OBLIGATION FOR PROBLEMS BASED ON FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCE AN
12:47:38PM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.
12:47:39PM I HOPE THAT WASN'T TOO LONG-WINDED.
12:47:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPECIFIC PROJECTS I VOTED YES FOR AND
12:47:45PM WOULDN'T FOR BONDING.
12:47:47PM I VOTE NO FOR IT AND THREE OTHER PEOPLE VOTE NO ON BONDING,
12:47:50PM THAT MEANS WE WILL HAVE TO FIND THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE
12:47:53PM CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AND NEXT FISCAL YEAR HAS TO FIND THAT
12:47:58PM FUNDING IN THAT BUDGET.
12:47:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
12:48:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OBLIGATION STILL EXISTS.
12:48:05PM METHOD OF BUDGETING OUT OF OUR OWN HIDE.
12:48:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU SUMMED IT UP BETTER THAN I DID.
12:48:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME OF
12:48:14PM THOSE PROJECTS COMING UP.
12:48:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE DO --
12:48:20PM SORRY, DEBT ISSUANCE AND WHAT?
12:48:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAKING TO COURT ON THE HOUSING ISSUE.
12:48:25PM MAYBE YOUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT --
12:48:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: PRETTY HAPPY TO HAND IT OVER TO HIM AND
12:48:31PM HAPPY TO TAKE THE QUESTION.
12:48:33PM >> IS THERE PRECEDENCE OF A MUNICIPALITY BORROWING MONEY AND
12:48:38PM USING DEBT TO SUBSIDIZE FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS?
12:48:46PM >> THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING TYPE
12:48:49PM STRUCTURE THAT YOU IT -- THAT YOU GUYS ARE IN RIGHT NOW.
12:48:51PM THERE IS PRECEDENT IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
12:48:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT HAS PASSED.
12:48:56PM >> YES.
12:48:57PM THE WAY THE VALIDATION WORKS, IT IS CIRCUIT-SPECIFIC.
12:49:04PM UNLESS IT IS SOMETHING OF THE SUPREME COURT.
12:49:06PM IT IS DEBT SPECIFIC.
12:49:09PM YOU HAVE SOMETHING APPROVED IT IS FOR THAT DEBT AND THAT
12:49:12PM DEBT ONLY.
12:49:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVER BEEN ELEVATED TO THE FLORIDA U.S.
12:49:17PM SUPREME COURT?
12:49:17PM >> OF THE HOUSING FRONT, IT HAS NOT BUT BEEN DONE IN SOUTH
12:49:21PM FLORIDA.
12:49:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA, HURTAK, CARLSON.
12:49:24PM YOU ARE GOOD.
12:49:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT --
12:49:30PM >> PUT YOUR MIC ON.
12:49:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR MICROPHONE.
12:49:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS A COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX FOR ANY
12:49:39PM NUMBER OF PROJECTS.
12:49:40PM IT EXISTS NOW.
12:49:42PM THE EXISTING COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX SUNSETS IN JUST A
12:49:46PM COUPLE OF YEARS.
12:49:46PM THE IDEA FOR THE RENEWAL OF SAID TAX WAS SURFACED AS A
12:49:55PM REFERENDUM THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC AND TAKE EFFECT
12:50:00PM -- I THINK YOU SAW DECEMBER 1, 2026 OR '27.
12:50:04PM AGAIN, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IT STANDS TO PROVIDE US WITH A
12:50:08PM GREAT DEAL OF REVENUE GOING FORWARD.
12:50:10PM IT IS A 15-YEAR TAX, IN CONTRAST TO THE CURRENT 30-YEAR TAX.
12:50:16PM BUT THE FUNDING DOESN'T START FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS.
12:50:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CARLSON.
12:50:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOING BACK TO -- TO THE LEAD IS THAT TALKS
12:50:32PM ABOUT TAXABLE BOND AND THE POSSIBILITY OF TAXABLE BONDS.
12:50:36PM WHEN DO WE THINK WE WILL HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT?
12:50:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
12:50:41PM AGAIN I WILL TURN TO THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.
12:50:43PM >> IT IS LIKELY TO BE HANDLED IN SESSION THIS YEAR.
12:50:50PM MAY COME UP AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT IS THROUGH
12:50:54PM MUCH OF THE COST SAVINGS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
12:50:56PM GOING THROUGH AND TRYING TO REALIZE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IS
12:50:59PM ON TABLE IS THE ELIMINATION OF TAX EXEMPT ITEMS.
12:51:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE TALKING OF FEDERAL LEGISLATION.
12:51:06PM >> YES.
12:51:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT I -- BUT REALLY NO, LIKE, SESSION PER SE.
12:51:12PM THEY GO ALL YEAR.
12:51:13PM WHAT IS A PREDICTABLE -- WOULD WE KNOW MAYBE BY THE SUMMER?
12:51:17PM OR IS THIS JUST GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE THING THAT IS JUST
12:51:20PM DRAWN OUT AND THREATENED FOR AGES.
12:51:23PM >> WE WOULD THINK SUMMER OR FALL WE WILL HAVE A GOOD SENSE
12:51:26PM IF IT IS GOING TO BE A NEAR-TERM PROBLEM OR SOMETHING THAT
12:51:30PM WILL COME BACK.
12:51:30PM AS I SAID BEFORE, IT CAME BACK -- IT CAME UP IN 2017.
12:51:35PM AND IT HAS BEEN DORMANT UNTIL NOW AND COME BACK.
12:51:39PM LIKELY EVEN IF IT IS FOUGHT BACK, IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT
12:51:43PM MAY COME UP IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
12:51:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
12:51:45PM THANK YOU.
12:51:46PM I AM GOING TO MOVE ON.
12:51:51PM SLIDE 18.
12:51:52PM I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.
12:51:57PM THAT IS $2.8 BILLION OF DEBT.
12:52:02PM THAT JUST MAKES MY SKIN CRAWL.
12:52:06PM OKAY.
12:52:06PM MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 27 -- SLIDE NUMBER 27.
12:52:12PM SHOW SLIDE NUMBER 27.
12:52:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP,
12:52:17PM PLEASE.
12:52:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
12:52:18PM SO --
12:52:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THERE WE ARE.
12:52:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOING BACK TO UNITED ASHLEY.
12:52:26PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE -- WE SENT AN -- AN E-MAIL TO
12:52:30PM YOU EARLIER THIS WEEK TO ASK IF THIS IS AN -- IF THIS IS
12:52:34PM MONEY THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
12:52:35PM AN YOU SAID THAT, NO, IT IS NOT BEEN RECEIVED.
12:52:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT HAS NOT.
12:52:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS REIMBURSABLE.
12:52:42PM CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT?
12:52:44PM YOUR E-MAIL SAID THE GRANT IS REIMBURSABLE AND THE CITY MUST
12:52:48PM HAVE VALID EXPENDITURES PRIOR TO SUBMITTING A REQUEST.
12:52:52PM CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT.
12:52:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
12:52:55PM REIMBURSE REASONABLE GRANT.
12:52:57PM MANY ARE REIMBURSABLE.
12:52:59PM GRANTOR WANTS TO SEE ACTION BEFORE THEY ARE GOING TO FUND
12:53:03PM FELL IN THE BLANK.
12:53:04PM A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
12:53:05PM WE NEED DEFINITIVE AND DEFENSIBLE EXPENSES UNTIL THEY PAY US
12:53:13PM BACK FOR WHAT WE ALREADY SPENT.
12:53:15PM AS YOU SAID, WE HAVE NO FUNDING RIGHT NOW.
12:53:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND WE HAVE NO -- WE CAN'T DEPEND ON GETTING
12:53:25PM REIMBURSED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW, BUT ADDITIONALLY
12:53:27PM I AM CONFUSED, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE FUNDING THAT I
12:53:31PM BROUGHT UP LAST WEEK, THE FEDERAL GRANT IS $5.3 MILLION.
12:53:36PM AND THEN THE CIT SERIES OF BONDS BACK FROM 2016 ARE $4.7
12:53:42PM MILLION.
12:53:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
12:53:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AN ASSUMPTION YOU WILL GET CRA FUNDS THAT
12:53:52PM WILL BE ADDED TO THIS.
12:53:53PM BUT THE FUTURE DEBT, MOBILITY FEES AND OR CIT RENEWALS WAS
12:53:59PM $3.94 MILLION.
12:54:01PM I'M NOT FEET SURE HOW YOU ARE GET THE $5.8 MILLION HERE.
12:54:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK WE ARE HEDGING OUT BET.
12:54:11PM WE DISCUSS IT LAST TIME AND OFFERING WERE FUNDING SCENARIOS.
12:54:15PM AGAIN, THERE REMAINS A LOT FLEXIBILITY, BUT A LITTLE MORE
12:54:19PM DIFFICULT WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO CHART A DEFENSIVE COURSE.
12:54:24PM WE ARE HEDGING OUR BETS.
12:54:26PM YOU GAVE A PERFECT EXAMPLE IF THE CRA BOARD DOESN'T WANT TO
12:54:32PM AND DES APPROVE FROM THE CRA OR A LOWER AMOUNT WE WILL HAVE
12:54:38PM TO LOOK FOR FUNNELING SOURCES.
12:54:39PM GOOD EYE, MA'AM.
12:54:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS ONE WE ARE GOING TO STICK WITH
12:54:45PM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT RIGHT NOW.
12:54:47PM AND THE OTHER THING THAT I JUST THINK IS INTERESTING AS WELL
12:54:52PM IS PAGE 35 THE CIT RENEWAL PROJECTIONS.
12:55:02PM HOW -- HOW CONSERVATIVE ARE THESE PROJECTIONS?
12:55:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
12:55:09PM AND THE PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON ANY NUMBER OF INPUTS FROM
12:55:13PM ANY NUMBER OF EXPERTS.
12:55:14PM IF MEMORY SERVES A LITTLE UNDER $800 MILLION OVER THE COURSE
12:55:18PM OF THAT 15 YEARS.
12:55:19PM WHAT IT WILL DEPEND UPON, OF COURSE, IS THE GROWTH OR CHANGE
12:55:24PM IN THE SALES TAX.
12:55:25PM I WOULD CALL THESE -- I WON'T CALL THESE ULTRA CONSERVATIVE
12:55:31PM PROJECTIONS BUT I WOULDN'T CALL THEM OVERLY LIBERAL.
12:55:35PM I WOULD CALL THEM UNKNOWN.
12:55:36PM AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE EVASIVE BUT BEST GUESS THE EXPERTS
12:55:43PM HAVE AT THIS TIME.
12:55:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THANK YOU.
12:55:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
12:55:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON AND MIRANDA.
12:55:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN AV PUT UP SLIDE 17, PLEASE.
12:55:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SLIDE 17, YES, SIR.
12:55:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD BLOW THIS UP EIGHT BY TEN
12:56:01PM FEET AND PUT IT ON THE WALL AND ON THE SIDE AND THE HALLWAY
12:56:06PM AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
12:56:07PM THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT SLIDE.
12:56:09PM THANK YOU, DENNIS, TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR PUTTING THIS
12:56:13PM TOGETHER
12:56:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
12:56:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST QUESTION ON THE FAR LEFT, 2000.
12:56:19PM THAT WAS, WHAT, GRECO ADMINISTRATION?
12:56:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: BEFORE MY TIME.
12:56:24PM YES.
12:56:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOWS $1 BILLION IN DEBT AND 212% OF
12:56:34PM REVENUES.
12:56:34PM DO WE KNOW WHERE THIS DEBT ORIGINATED?
12:56:37PM HOW FAR BACK IT WENT BEYOND THAT.
12:56:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WE CAN
12:56:43PM CIRCLE BACK.
12:56:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: INTERESTING TO KNOW -- DEBT TIED TO IT
12:56:48PM THE CIT WHICH WAS '98.
12:56:50PM I WONDER THIS DEBT PROCEEDED THAT.
12:56:53PM I KNOW AT ONE POINT, CHARLIE TALKS ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE
12:56:56PM WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND STATE-OF-THE-ART -- I THINK THAT
12:57:00PM WAS $100 MILLION.
12:57:01PM BIG ITEMS BACK THEN.
12:57:02PM BUT JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THEY INVESTED IN.
12:57:05PM IF WE ARE GOING TO COMPARE THE PAST TO THE FUTURE.
12:57:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. I
12:57:13PM WONDER IF YOU HAVE THREE EXPERTS.
12:57:18PM I LOOKED AT THEIR BACKGROUND.
12:57:20PM MOLLY CLARK, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
12:57:23PM AND MAYBE THE OTHERS CAN JUMP IN ALSO.
12:57:26PM BUT I HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE WHO USED TO WORK AT THE RATING
12:57:30PM AGENCIES.
12:57:30PM THEY TOLD ME EVEN THOUGH OUR RATINGS ARE GREAT NOW, BUT TO
12:57:39PM ME THE THING IS NOT TO PRAISE THE RATINGS THE WAY THEY ARE
12:57:42PM NOW.
12:57:43PM ONCE YOU ARE ON TOP, WHICH YOU ARE, THE PROBLEM IS HOW DO
12:57:45PM YOU STAY UP THERE.
12:57:48PM SO I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY MANY FINANCIAL PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WITH
12:57:51PM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT OUR DEBT RATIO IS REALLY HIGH.
12:58:02PM WE ARE SEEING 78 TO 89% OF REVENUES.
12:58:07PM BUT WHEN YOU ADD -- WHEN YOU ADD THE -- DON'T SWITCH
12:58:11PM SLIDES PLEASE, ON PAGE 24 ADDING ANOTHER $349 MILLION OF
12:58:16PM DEBT.
12:58:16PM AT $1.9 -- ONE BILLION, 970 MILLION IN DEBT.
12:58:26PM THIS YEAR'S REVENUE -- WILL BE EQUAL TO THIS YEAR'S REVENUE.
12:58:30PM AT WHAT POINT DOES THE BOND RATING AGENCIES SAY YOU ALL HAVE
12:58:34PM TOO MUCH DEBT.
12:58:35PM AND I WONDER WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE.
12:58:37PM I SEE YOUR ORGANIZATION IS IN SEVERAL STATES.
12:58:40PM MAJOR -- NOT SMALLER ONES, BUT MAJOR MUNICIPALITIES.
12:58:47PM HOW OFTEN IT TO THE DEBT-TO-REVENUE RATIO IS ONE TO ONE OR
12:58:53PM ABOVE 100%?
12:58:55PM >> I WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION, BUT
12:58:57PM WHAT I CAN TELL YOU GENERALLY, EACH OF RATING AGENCIES TAKE
12:59:03PM A DIFFERENT APPROACH.
12:59:03PM EACH HAVE THEIR OWN APPROACH AND GENERALLY THEY LOOK AT THE.
12:59:13PM IT IS A VERY -- A CRITICAL PORTION; HOW FAR, IT IS NOT THE
12:59:20PM ONLY POURING OF EAST ITS METRICS THAT GO TO OVERALL
12:59:26PM EVALUATION THAT GENERATES A RATING BEING ASSIGNED BY EACH OF
12:59:30PM THE AGENCIES.
12:59:31PM DEMOGRAPHICS ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, BUDGET, DIFFERENT
12:59:35PM ELEMENTS OF THE ISSUER, OF THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THE STATE,
12:59:39PM SO DEBT -- DEBT LEVELS WILL FLUCTUATE WITH EACH ISSUER, AS
12:59:46PM WILL BUDGET AND DEMOGRAPHICS.
12:59:47PM EACH OF THE AGENCIES TAKES A HOLISTIC LOOK AND LOOKS AT
12:59:53PM DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND COMES OUT WITH THE RATINGS THAT
12:59:55PM WAY.
12:59:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: DENNIS, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
12:59:58PM IDEALLY TO ASK THE RATING AGENCIES AND ASK OUR CONSULTANTS
01:00:03PM TO COME BACK AT SOME POINT AND TELL US WHAT ARE THE BRIGHT
01:00:08PM LINES.
01:00:08PM WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE CAN'T GO OVER.
01:00:10PM WE KNOW WE HAVE BEEN -- WE ARE KIND OF MANDATED TO HAVE A
01:00:14PM 20% RESERVE.
01:00:15PM HOVERING ON 23% TO 25%.
01:00:19PM 3% TO 5% IS THE REAL RAINY DAY AND CAN'T GO BELOW 20 BECAUSE
01:00:25PM WILL CHANGE OUR RATES.
01:00:26PM I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE BRIGHT LINES ARE.
01:00:30PM FROM EVERYTHING WE HAVE.
01:00:31PM TOLD BY OTHERS, WE SHOULDN'T PALS ONE-TO-ONE RATIO OF DEBT
01:00:36PM TO REVENUES WHICH I THINK WE ARE GOING TO PASS NO MATTER
01:00:39PM WHAT.
01:00:39PM I THINK THAT THAT IS WAY BEYOND WHAT MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT
01:00:45PM GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO.
01:00:46PM ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INTEREST ALL OF THESE THE
01:00:53PM INTEREST IS NOT 100 %.
01:00:55PM HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INTEREST ANY CHANCE TO
01:00:58PM PAY GO IS DEFINITELY BETTER.
01:01:00PM START TALKING OF THE CIT COMMUNITY INVESTMENT AT THAT POINT
01:01:07PM REUP.
01:01:08PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE -- THE MONEY BEYOND
01:01:10PM OUR TERMS.
01:01:13PM DECEMBER 2026 NEW CITY COUNCIL TAKES OVER IN MAY JUST FIVE,
01:01:20PM SIX MONTHS LATER.
01:01:22PM KNOW THERE ARE SOME LAWS OF OBLIGATING A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL
01:01:26PM OR MAYOR, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE BONDING ALL OF THAT
01:01:29PM IN THE FUTURE.
01:01:30PM WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ORIGINAL CIT AND THE COUNTY
01:01:33PM COMMISSION LIMITED IT TO 15 YEARS THIS TIME.
01:01:35PM LAST QUESTION.
01:01:36PM IF WE FIND MORE FAVORABLE RATES IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, WHAT
01:01:41PM IS THE COST OF REFINANCING IT AS A BIG BUCKET OR IN BIG
01:01:45PM BUCKETS TO GET MORE FAVORABLE RATES?
01:01:49PM TRANSACTION TOO HIGH?
01:01:52PM >> ON A TRANSACTION BY TRANSACTION BASIS.
01:01:56PM EACH TIME YOU ISSUE DEBT AND DECISION IS MADE.
01:02:00PM HOW CALLABLE IN THE FUTURE.
01:02:02PM IS IT CALLABLE.
01:02:02PM THE CITY HAS ISSUED NONCALLABLE DEBT MEANING DIFFICULT OR
01:02:08PM EXPENSIVE AND WOULDN'T HAVE THE OPTION TO REFINANCE THAT
01:02:10PM DEBT.
01:02:10PM TYPICALLY, TAX EXEMPT BOND ARE ISSUED WITH A TEN-YEAR CALL.
01:02:16PM MEANING IN TEN YEARS, YOU CAN REFINANCE THAT DEBT.
01:02:19PM AND, AGAIN, GIVEN THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT 30-YEAR DEALS.
01:02:25PM AFTER TEN YEARS, YOU ARE MOST OFTEN GOING TO HAVE SAVINGS
01:02:28PM BECAUSE 20-YEAR HORIZON TO THE FINAL MATURITY DATE.
01:02:32PM WE ANALYZE ALL OF IT ON A TRANS ACTION BY TRANSACTION BASIS.
01:02:36PM AND ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
01:02:39PM JERRY FORD AN HIS TEAM LOOKS AT ALL THE WATER AND SEWER
01:02:43PM DEBT.
01:02:44PM OUR TEAM LOOKS AT THE GOVERNMENTAL AND SOLID WASTE DEBT TO
01:02:49PM SEE IF THERE IS SOLID WASTE OPPORTUNITIES.
01:02:50PM WHEN THERE ARE, WE NOTIFY YOUR STAFF.
01:02:53PM AND -- TO THE EXTENT THOSE ARE LARGE ENOUGH TRANSACTIONS
01:02:59PM WHERE WE CAN COMBINE OR REFUND THE EXISTING DEBT WITH THE
01:03:02PM NEW MONEY PROJECT.
01:03:04PM WE DO THAT AND THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY GOOD OF STAVING ON TOP
01:03:07PM OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
01:03:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
01:03:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:03:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE SOME -- LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS
01:03:15PM AND PAGE 34 IN THE CIT.
01:03:18PM THAT WAS HISTORY THAT WAS TAKEN -- PASSED BY A COUPLE
01:03:23PM POINTS.
01:03:23PM THAT IS YESTERDAY'S NEWS; HOWEVER, LOOK AT CIT PUBLIC
01:03:27PM SAFETY.
01:03:29PM 99% OF SOMETHING.
01:03:31PM WHAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GETTING BACK?
01:03:34PM THE QUESTION IN MY MIND IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T COLLECT
01:03:38PM ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE CIT TAX ON THE BONDINGS.
01:03:46PM WELL, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
01:03:48PM BOND IT OUT AND GIVE THE MONEY AWAY TO TWO ENTITIES.
01:03:51PM MAINLY THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
01:03:52PM THIS IS OUR SHARE.
01:03:53PM WHAT IS OUR SHARE MEAN ON AT THAT --
01:04:06PM HALF A PENNY.
01:04:07PM I DIDN'T KNOW PENNIES MAKE THAT MUCH MONEY.
01:04:09PM YOU GET ONE PENNY AND DOUBLE IT EVERY 30 DAYS,
01:04:14PM A MILLION DOLLARS IN CASH.
01:04:19PM YOU GET PENNY AND DOUBLE IT FOR 30 DAY, YOU GET MORE MONEY
01:04:24PM THAN IF YOU GIVE ME A MILLION DOLLARS.
01:04:26PM A MATHEMATICAL FACT.
01:04:38PM DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN WALK IN ANY STADIUM WITHOUT PAYING.
01:04:41PM PUBLIC FACILITY THIS WAY AND WAY IT WAS PUT ON BALLOT.
01:04:45PM THE BALLOT WAS FOR THEM AND THIS IS WHAT WE GET, 21%.
01:04:49PM I UNDERSTAND.
01:04:50PM WHAT HE DON'T UNDERSTAND AND NOT COMPREHENDING, WHAT DO WE
01:04:57PM GET IF NOT BOND IT OUT AND DON'T ENOUGH TAX TO PAY THE BOND?
01:05:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ANSWER THAT IN SEGMENTS.
01:05:03PM TO REITERATE A POINT.
01:05:06PM ABOUT UNDER.
01:05:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN WE NOT BOND AND PAY THE TAX WHAT WE
01:05:15PM COLLECT TO --
01:05:16PM I WANT TO PAY THEM.
01:05:18PM PUBLIC VOTED FOR THAT.
01:05:20PM CAN WE DO THAT WITHOUT BONDING.
01:05:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE CAN.
01:05:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHY ARE WE BONDING.
01:05:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ITS REASONS YOU WANT TO BOND ANYTHING.
01:05:27PM GENERALLY IF YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH BIG THINGS SOON SO YOU
01:05:31PM DON'T HAVE TO SAVE UP THE MONEY.
01:05:32PM PIPES -- THE PIPES PROGRAM IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
01:05:35PM YOU NOTICE.
01:05:36PM THERE ARE OTHER REASONS, BUT GENERALLY WHY YOU WOULD BOND
01:05:40PM IT.
01:05:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE SURE MY HEAD IS A LITTLE CLEARER
01:05:43PM THAN BEFORE I ASKED THE QUESTION.
01:05:44PM WE CAN DO IT.
01:05:45PM COLLECT THE MONEY.
01:05:46PM DISTRIBUTE IT TO THEM ON A MONTHLY, BIMONTHLY OR WHATEVER
01:05:50PM THREE MONTHS.
01:05:50PM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE BOND IT, GIVE THE MONEY AWAY RIGHT NOW?
01:05:55PM I DON'T KNOW.
01:05:58PM >> WE WILL OWE WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO OWE.
01:06:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT DOUBTING THAT.
01:06:05PM >> IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO BOND THIS FUNDING.
01:06:07PM IT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY WE WILL BOND THIS -- WE WILL DO A
01:06:11PM NON-AD VALOREM BOND AND ONE OF THE METHODS OF REPAYMENT.
01:06:15PM FROM THAT FUNDING WE WILL PAY THE BILLS, FROM THE AMALIE
01:06:20PM ARENA OR FROM RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
01:06:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WILL YOU SAVE A LOT MONEY IF YOU DON'T
01:06:27PM BOND?
01:06:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
01:06:28PM YES.
01:06:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:06:30PM WE TYPICALLY FINISH OUR WORKSHOPS AT 1:00.
01:06:34PM AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT LUNCH WHEN WE BREAK.
01:06:37PM WE HAVE A 5:01 P.M. MEETING TONIGHT.
01:06:39PM YES, MA'AM.
01:06:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A PROPOSITION FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH
01:06:45PM IS TALKING ABOUT THE EXTRA FUNDING FROM FY 24.
01:06:51PM A LOT OF I BELIEVE OUR CONVERSATION HAS TO DO WITH
01:06:56PM STORMWATER.
01:06:56PM NEXT WEEK WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ABOUT STORMWATER.
01:06:59PM IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU ALL, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MOVE THIS --
01:07:02PM THAT ITEM TO NEXT THURSDAY KNOWING THAT IT WILL BE A BIT OF
01:07:07PM A LONGER DAY, BUT I AM -- I THINK -- WE CAN NOT PUSH IT ANY
01:07:12PM FURTHER BECAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE SOME OF THAT MONEY.
01:07:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN BLEND IT IN.
01:07:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 3 FILE NUMBER CM 24-58 TO
01:07:22PM STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS WHICH WILL REQUIRE US TO
01:07:27PM WAIVE OUR RULES.
01:07:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS IT FINE.
01:07:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES.
01:07:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
01:07:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SECOND HERS.
01:07:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO
01:07:38PM CONTINUE AND ADD ITEM NUMBER 3 TO THAT STAFF REPORT AS YOU
01:07:43PM MENTIONED FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
01:07:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST AFTER IT.
01:07:47PM BECAUSE TECHCALLY TWO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS.
01:07:50PM THIS WILL BE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
01:07:52PM BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT SEVERAL OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND --
01:07:58PM SPENDING SOME OF THE EXTRA MONEY ON STORMWATER.
01:08:01PM SO A NATURAL PROGRESSION.
01:08:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS FINE.
01:08:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: REMAINING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
01:08:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A MOTION.
01:08:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE THIS MOTION.
01:08:09PM JUST FOR ITEM 3.
01:08:11PM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:08:12PM ANY OTHER MOTIONS, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
01:08:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
01:08:16PM I HAVE THE COUNCIL SALARY DISCUSSION.
01:08:19PM AND I AM HAPPY TO MOVE THAT TO -- I BELIEVE IT IS MAY --
01:08:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:08:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: APRIL WORKSHOP, APRIL 2024 WORKSHOP.
01:08:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:08:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED THE DISCUSSION OR A MOOT POINT?
01:08:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW.
01:08:39PM THAT IS WHY I WANTED TO ASK.
01:08:41PM SUPPOSEDLY NOW TIED TO ATU BUT DO WE WANT TO DO THAT?
01:08:46PM WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
01:08:48PM AND A CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING.
01:08:50PM LET'S MOVE IT TO MAY'S WORKSHOP WHICH IS 22nd.
01:08:54PM MAY 22nd.
01:08:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAKER THE MOTION, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:09:01PM MEANWHILE, IF WE NEED TO HAVE IT, WE CAN PULL IT.
01:09:05PM BUT MOVE IT FOR NOW.
01:09:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER CM 24-2658.
01:09:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 7 TO THE MAY
01:09:17PM WORKSHOP.
01:09:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY FOR ANYBODY WATCHING, MR. CHAIR.
01:09:20PM THAT ITEM WAS NOT ABOUT OUR COUNCIL, IT IS ABOUT THE COUNCIL
01:09:24PM STARTING MAY 1, 2027.
01:09:26PM A FUTURE COUNCIL, NOT OURS.
01:09:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:09:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:09:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I SECONDED IT.
01:09:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
01:09:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CHAIR.
01:09:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:09:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COUNCIL'S PERMISSION
01:09:41PM TO WORK WITH -- FOR ITEM NUMBER 5.
01:09:44PM ATTORNEY MORRIS MASSEY SUBMITTED A REPORT.
01:09:48PM THE AMOUNT WAS FOR STAFF TO PRESENT A DRAFT ORDINANCE.
01:09:51PM THAT WAS JUST A REPORT.
01:09:53PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE THIS COUNCIL'S PERMISSION TO
01:09:56PM HAVE MYSELF WORK WITH ATTORNEY MASSEY TO WORK ON A DRAFT
01:10:00PM ORDINANCE TO BE PRESENTED -- BECAUSE SOME ISSUES THAT I
01:10:03PM THINK I HAD WITH IT -- TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON MAY 15.
01:10:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
01:10:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:10:09PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:10:10PM THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE DISCUSSION FOR TODAY.
01:10:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 5 FROM TODAY'S
01:10:16PM DISCUSSION.
01:10:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
01:10:20PM MOVE ITEM NUMBER 6 TO MAY 22.
01:10:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:10:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REMOVE IT --
01:10:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WILL THE ITEM -- SORRY, THIS IS TO THE
01:10:33PM MAKER OF THE MOTION --
01:10:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ORIGINAL ITEM WILL BE CONTINUED -- SO
01:10:37PM -- BECAUSE HE -- HE IS SUBMITTING A STAFF REPORT TODAY, BUT
01:10:40PM I AM GOING TO WORK WITH ATTORNEY MASSEY TO DRAFT AN
01:10:43PM ORDINANCE TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON MAY 15.
01:10:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION REMAIN THE SAME.
01:10:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:10:54PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:10:55PM ANYTHING ELSE?
01:10:56PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:10:57PM CARLS CARLSON MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 6 MAY 22.
01:11:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:11:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MENTION ONE MORE THING?
01:11:07PM WHEN WE DO THE GREAT EIGHT, WE SHOULD HAVE IT ON ITS OWN
01:11:11PM WORKSHOP OR ITS OWN DAY AND WASN'T ENOUGH TIME.
01:11:14PM DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT?
01:11:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, IN THE FUTURE WHEN IT COMES UP.
01:11:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR STAFF.
01:11:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OUR ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER WILL BE
01:11:26PM MISS STEPHANIE POYNOR AFTER THIS DISCUSSION.
01:11:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL 2:00 --
01:11:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 1:30.
01:11:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 1:30 BECAUSE I HAVE GOT TO GO
01:11:36PM PICK UP MY CAR TO COME BACK HERE AND DO MORE CITY
01:11:39PM COUNCIL.
01:11:39PM A MOTION AND SECOND TO EXTEND TO 1:30.
01:11:48PM IF WE CAN KEEP YOU ARE IN NEW BUSINESS FOR TONIGHT.
01:11:50PM IS THAT OKAY?
01:11:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.
01:11:53PM AT THE TIME I WILL MAKE IT.
01:11:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MR. ROGERO.
01:11:57PM I THINK YOU LEFT OFF AT SLIDE 35, 36.
01:12:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK IT WAS 36.
01:12:02PM IF I COULD HAVE -- IF I COULD HAVE PRESENTATION BACK -- OH,
01:12:05PM THERE IT IS.
01:12:05PM LET ME GET TO WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GO.
01:12:08PM AGAIN, MR. REID WILL COME UP AND GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW.
01:12:13PM DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THE SLIDES?
01:12:19PM I CAN DO THAT.
01:12:19PM >> THANK YOU, I WILL TRY TO MOVE THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY.
01:12:29PM ON THE UPSIDE, NOT ANYTHING TOO TERRIBLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
01:12:33PM WE WENT THROUGH AT THIS TIME.
01:12:35PM WATER AND WASTEWATER IS THE ENTERPRISE SIDE AND THAT IS
01:12:38PM WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITY'S DEBT IS YOU ARE CURRENTLY
01:12:42PM OUTSTANDING.
01:12:43PM AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CITY -- THE CITY IDENTIFIED
01:12:48PM SIGNIFICANT NEEDS IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM AND
01:12:50PM EMBARKED ON A PROGRAM TO IMPROVE THOSE SYSTEMS THROUGH
01:12:54PM HELENE AND MILTON.
01:12:55PM WE HAVE SEEN THE VALUE THAT THOSE IMPROVEMENT HAVE MADE.
01:12:59PM THIS SYSTEM DATE BACK TO THE 2010s WERE DESIGNED TO
01:13:03PM MAINTAIN THE AAA RATING WHILE KEEPING THE RATES
01:13:06PM SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW COMPARABLE SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
01:13:09PM WE GO THROUGH -- EVERY TIME THERE IS AN ISSUE WORK WITH THE
01:13:12PM FEASIBILITY CONSULTANTS TO LOOK AT THE RATING AGENCIES
01:13:18PM WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE VARIOUS DEBT METRICS THAT RANGE FROM
01:13:21PM THINGS LIKE COVERAGE GOING THROUGH, MAKING SURE WE ARE
01:13:23PM MAINTAINING A REVENUE TO DEBT COVERAGE LEVEL AS WELL AS
01:13:28PM GOING THROUGH AND MAINTAINING TODAY'S CASH ON HAND WHICH IS
01:13:31PM ANOTHER PIECE THAT THEY LOOK AT PRETTY CAREFULLY.
01:13:34PM WE RUN THROUGH MULTIPLE ITERATIONS MAKE SURE THAT NOT JUST
01:13:38PM THE FIRST ISSUE MEETS THE AAA RATINGS, BUT ALL THE
01:13:43PM SUBSEQUENT ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE
01:13:46PM PROGRAM LEAVE ITS CITY IN A POSITION THAT WE MAINTAIN
01:13:51PM THOSE AAA RATINGS.
01:13:54PM WE WORK WITH THE RATINGS AGENCIES AND FEASIBILITY STUDIES
01:13:58PM VERY CONSISTENTLY.
01:13:59PM GOING THROUGH IT, THE SYSTEM ACHIEVED ITS THIRD AAA READING
01:14:07PM IN 2020 IN THE MIDST OF COVID WITH A TRANSACTIONING THAT
01:14:11PM YEAR THAT WAS DECLARED YEAR-OVER-YEAR.
01:14:14PM WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PLAN
01:14:17PM WE PUT IN PLACE IN 2010s TO GO THROUGH AND FUND THE REST OF
01:14:21PM THE PIPES PROGRAM.
01:14:22PM AGAIN, AS WE DISCUSSED, THE CITY'S WATER AND WASTEWATER
01:14:28PM PROGRAM IN THE MIDDLE OF A MULTIYEAR INVESTMENT HAVING
01:14:31PM ISSUED $270 MILLION IN 2020, $298 MILLION UNTIL 2022, --
01:14:38PM MILLION IN 2023-24.
01:14:41PM AND PLAN RUNS THROUGH 2030.
01:14:43PM AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE DEBT STRUCTURE FOR PREDOMINANT LOW
01:14:49PM PAYMENTS.
01:14:49PM AND THAT IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUTSTANDING.
01:14:52PM THE PRINCIPAL PORTION OF THAT WILL ROLL OFF OVER TIME.
01:14:56PM WE DON'T HAVE ANY LARGE SPIKES.
01:14:58PM IT IS JUST A PRINCIPAL MUCH IN THE SAME WAY THAT A NORMAL
01:15:04PM MORTGAGE WOULD LOOK AS WELL.
01:15:05PM GOING THROUGH, LOOKING AT THE -- THE FUTURE DEBT, THE PLAN
01:15:11PM IS CURRENTLY TO GO THROUGH AND WRAP THAT AROUND EXISTING
01:15:14PM DEBT WITH A PLAN OF GIVING THE CITY A LEVEL OVERALL PAYMENT
01:15:17PM STRUCTURE AND STRUCTURE IN CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH THE
01:15:20PM CITY'S RATE AND FEASIBILITY CONSULTANTS TO PROTECT
01:15:23PM THE AA RATINGS OF THE SYSTEM.
01:15:25PM THIS IS CURRENTLY BASED ON THE LAST RUNS THROUGH THE
01:15:30PM FEASIBILITY CONSULTANT IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR OFFICE.
01:15:34PM THIS IS WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE DEBT OF THE
01:15:36PM SYSTEM LOOKING LIKE AFTER THE SUBSEQUENT 2030 ISSUES.
01:15:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
01:15:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG THESE -- THE PIPES PROGRAM THAT WE
01:15:51PM ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE WATER AND WASTEWATER.
01:15:53PM WE -- WE STARTED THIS SOME TIME BACK.
01:15:56PM I WANTED TO DO IT 30 EARLIER.
01:15:59PM $2 A MONTH AND NOBODY WANTED TO LISTEN TO ME.
01:16:02PM NOW IT IS AT $7 A MONTH.
01:16:09PM CAN YOU GIVE US A FIGURE, ANY ONE OF YOU GENTLEMEN, WHAT IS
01:16:14PM DOING EVERY MONTH SO WE ARE DOING IT PAY AS WE GO.
01:16:16PM HOW MANY ACCOUNTS WE HAVE.
01:16:18PM I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER.
01:16:20PM I CAN FIGURE IT OUT MYSELF.
01:16:23PM >> I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS.
01:16:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT TRYING TO GET YOU -- IF YOU CAN'T.
01:16:28PM IF YOU CAN GIVE THE FILLINGS ON WASTEWATER AND WATER.
01:16:31PM HOW MANY ACCOUNTS DO WE HAVE AND HOW MUCH DOES IT PRODUCE ON
01:16:35PM A MONTHLY BASIS SO WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS.
01:16:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
01:16:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
01:16:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS -- IN THE
01:16:49PM INTEREST OF TIME AND I DON'T THINK WE WILL SHARE ANYTHING
01:16:52PM NEW REGARDING SOLID WASTE FUNDING.
01:16:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. WASHINGTON WAS HERE EARLIER.
01:16:58PM I THINK WE WERE GOOD.
01:17:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
01:17:02PM IN THAT CASE I WILL GET TO THE BONDING CAPACITY AND THE
01:17:05PM FINAL PORTION OF OUR PRESENTATION.
01:17:06PM SO IS YOU -- YOU HAVE SEEN WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO DATE.
01:17:13PM YOU SEE THE PLAN AND AGAIN, I EMPHASIZE THE PLAN FOR WHAT
01:17:21PM OUR DEBT ISSUANCE UNIVERSE IS RIGHT NOW AND I WOULD LIKE TO
01:17:25PM HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING I SHOULD HAVE HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER.
01:17:27PM YOU WILL SEE THE WORD "POTENTIAL" THROUGHOUT THIS
01:17:30PM PRESENTATION.
01:17:30PM BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE NOT TAKING FOR GRANTED THAT COUNCIL
01:17:34PM WILL ISSUE THIS DEBT, BUT A PLAN RIGHT NOW AND THESE ARE THE
01:17:38PM POTENTIAL ACTIONS THAT WE WILL ASK COUNCIL TO TAKE.
01:17:40PM SO HAVING SEEN WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE IS OUR BONDING
01:17:52PM CAPACITY SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR.
01:17:53PM INCREASED A BIT $400 MILLION COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AND
01:18:00PM BROKEN UP HERE.
01:18:01PM A LITTLE DIPLOMATIC.
01:18:04PM THEY ARE DEFINITELY CHANGE ESPECIALLY IN THIS ENVIRONMENT
01:18:09PM AND YOU HEARD MR. REID TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
01:18:14PM THIS IS OUR CAPACITY.
01:18:15PM THE NEXT SLIDE.
01:18:16PM AND VERY SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR SHOW YOU WHAT OUR OBLIGATION
01:18:21PM IS AND WHAT OUR CAPACITY IS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT HERE.
01:18:28PM MIDDLE COLUMN IS THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF THE CAPACITY VERSES
01:18:32PM OUR BONDS OUTSTANDING FOR GOVERNMENTAL AND THE WATER
01:18:35PM WASTEWATER BOND.
01:18:37PM AND YOU SEE OVER TO THE RECEIPT, OUR CURRENT BONDING
01:18:41PM POTENTIAL.
01:18:41PM WALKING YOU THROUGH IT VERY, VERY QUICKLY JUST UNDER $1.2
01:18:49PM BILLION WORTH OF POTENTIAL CAPACITY IN THE GOVERNMENTAL FUND
01:18:53PM AND A LITTLE UNDER $1 BILLION IN THE CAPACITY OF THE WATER
01:18:57PM WASTEWATER BONDS.
01:18:59PM AGAIN, HERE IS WHERE I WILL AGAIN STRESS POTENTIAL AND
01:19:04PM REITERATE THAT WE ARE BY NO MEANS ADVOCATING THAT COUNCIL
01:19:08PM ENTER INTO THIS LEVEL OF DEBT THIS IS MERELY OUR POTENTIAL
01:19:16PM TO GIVE YOU AND THE PUBLIC SOME SENSE OF SCALE.
01:19:19PM I HAVE SHARED THIS BEFORE AND WILL CONTINUE TO IT.
01:19:22PM OUR OVERARCHING PHILOSOPHY TO ADVOCATE AND RECOMMEND
01:19:28PM FINANCING ONLY IF IT MEETS COUNCIL COUNCIL'S AND THE MAYOR'S
01:19:33PM GOAL.
01:19:33PM DEBT FINANCING IS SIMPLY A TOOL, ONE OF MANY THAT WE SHARED
01:19:38PM AND EXERCISED IN THE PAST UNDOUBTEDLY EXERCISED IN THE
01:19:47PM FUTURE AND ASK YOU TO OPINE ON THE CAPACITY AND YOU SEE THAT
01:19:51PM THERE.
01:19:51PM THAT INCLUDES THE OFFICIAL PART OF MY PRESENTATION.
01:19:53PM AGAIN JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT IS COMING.
01:19:56PM I ANTICIPATE, LOOK FORWARD TO AND APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S
01:20:00PM INTEREST FOR WHAT I ANTICIPATE TO BE A LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS
01:20:03PM ON WHERE WE GO FROM HERE WITH THE CIT REMOVAL.
01:20:06PM WITH OUR PLAN DEBT ISSUANCES.
01:20:09PM WITH THE FISCAL '26 BUDGET AND WITH THE FISCAL '26-'30
01:20:18PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
01:20:19PM THANK YOU.
01:20:19PM A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION.
01:20:20PM COUNCIL IS FORTUNATE TO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF FLEXIBILITY.
01:20:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
01:20:26PM BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU KNOW, I -- I OFTEN
01:20:30PM TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW -- I DON'T LIKE DEBT.
01:20:32PM I LIKE MY -- MY VERY HIGH BEACON SCORE.
01:20:35PM MAYBE I SAY THINGS I SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT.
01:20:38PM BUT I LEARN A LOT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND HE
01:20:44PM MENTIONED SOMETHING HIS FATHER SAID.
01:20:46PM IF I CAN'T PAY FOR IT IN 30 DAYS, I DON'T NEED TO BUY IT.
01:20:51PM I DON'T LIKE HEARING CREDIT CARD DEBT.
01:20:54PM LIKE KEEPING MY BEACON SCORE SUPER HIGH.
01:20:56PM I LIKE TO KNOW IF I NEED TO I CAN GO AND FINANCE CERTAIN
01:21:00PM THINGS WHATEVER.
01:21:01PM BUT AS I COMPARE THAT, MY PERSONAL FINANCES TO PUBLIC MONEY
01:21:08PM WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE HEARING IN OUR CAPACITY, I THINK WE
01:21:11PM NEED TO TREAT IT THE SAME JUST BECAUSE WE CAN.
01:21:14PM IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO.
01:21:15PM YES.
01:21:16PM IS THERE CAPACITY AND AVAILABILITY AND AVAILABLE CREDIT.
01:21:21PM YOU BEGIN THIS PRESENTATION AS YOU ALWAYS DO, LOOK AT OUR
01:21:24PM CREDIT AND BOND RATINGS.
01:21:25PM I LIKE HAVING A $1800 BEACON.
01:21:29PM I LIKE KEEPING IT AND MONITOR IT EVERY MONTH.
01:21:32PM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS RANK NUMBER TWO BEHIND MILWAUKEE.
01:21:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: BUT I AM NOT BITTER.
01:21:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE.
01:21:44PM I LIKE TO KEEP IT LIKE THAT AND KEEP THE REPUTATION THAT
01:21:47PM TAMPA HAS THAT WE ARE IN GOOD FINANCIAL SPACE BECAUSE --
01:21:50PM AGAIN, YOU HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH.
01:21:51PM I SEE MAYOR IORIO EVER SO OFTEN.
01:21:55PM PASS IT IT IS A PARTICULAR MAYOR.
01:21:57PM SHE AND HER TEAM AND MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL HERE HAVE TO
01:22:00PM WEATHER A VERY TERRIBLE STORM OF LAYOFFS AND LOSS OF
01:22:05PM REVENUES.
01:22:06PM AND AS I MENTIONED THIS MORNING AS I GO INTO THE UNCERTAINTY
01:22:09PM POLITICALLY, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT FEDERAL
01:22:11PM MONEY.
01:22:12PM COUNCIL HURTAK DOES A GREAT JOB AT SCRUTINIZING, BECAUSE WE
01:22:16PM DON'T KNOW.
01:22:17PM NOTHING IS GUARANTEED, ESPECIALLY NOW.
01:22:19PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE PROPERTY TAXES.
01:22:22PM THANKFULLY THE CIT WAS RENEWED FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME
01:22:27PM AND WE HAVE THAT LIFELINE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE
01:22:29PM CAREFUL.
01:22:29PM YES, WE'VE LOT OF PROJECTS IN THE WORK.
01:22:32PM SOMEBODY MENTION THE FIXING THE FLOODING.
01:22:34PM DON'T CUT -- THAT IS A SEPARATE THING.
01:22:38PM AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO TREAT IT RESPONSIBLY AS WE
01:22:41PM WOULD OUR FINANCES.
01:22:42PM DO WE -- DEBT IS NOT GOOD.
01:22:44PM I HAVE BEEN THERE WHERE YOU ARE PAYING CRAZY INTEREST RATES
01:22:47PM AND CREDIT CARDS.
01:22:48PM I DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
01:22:51PM I DON'T WANT NOBODY THAT POSITION.
01:22:53PM I LIKE TO BE IN A FINANCIALLY STRONG POSITION JUST LIKE THE
01:22:56PM CITY IS.
01:22:57PM AND, AGAIN, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL.
01:22:59PM AND I KNOW THE MEETINGS ARE LONG AND WE ASK A LOT OF
01:23:03PM QUESTIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO LEAD THE NEXT
01:23:06PM GENERATION, NEXT MAYOR, NEXT CITY COUNCIL.
01:23:09PM I SPOKE TO ANOTHER UNNAMED FORMER MAYOR.
01:23:12PM WHEN THOSE BONDS COME DUE, WHEN YOU HAVE TO PAY.
01:23:15PM I DON'T THINK IT IS A GOOD DEAL.
01:23:16PM YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY WERE ELECTED MAYOR FOR A REASON, YOU
01:23:20PM KNOW.
01:23:20PM AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE.
01:23:23PM BUT, AGAIN, WE NEED TO -- AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU THOUGH
01:23:27PM TREAD CAREFULLY.
01:23:28PM AND THAT'S IT.
01:23:30PM THANK YOU FOR A VERY -- THIS IS A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
01:23:32PM I LOOK FORWARD TO GOING INTO THIS INTO FURTHER DETAIL ON MY
01:23:36PM OWN.
01:23:36PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:23:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:23:38PM SO I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION OF THIS LAST SLIDE HERE THAT
01:23:42PM I THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL.
01:23:44PM SO THIS GOVERNMENTAL -- THE GOVERNMENTAL BONDS OUTSTANDING.
01:23:50PM I SEE WATER AND WASTEWATER HERE AND I KNOW THAT SOLID WASTE
01:23:53PM IS NOT HERE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS BUNDLED INTO
01:23:56PM GOVERNMENT.
01:23:57PM CAN YOU TELL ME THE BONDS OUTSTANDING HOW MUCH OF THAT IS
01:24:02PM SOLID WASTE.
01:24:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: LIKE 100 AND --
01:24:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 107.
01:24:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 120, MA'AM.
01:24:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE SORT OF I THINK THAT IS HELPFUL BECAUSE
01:24:15PM WE KNOW WE WILL BE PULLING THAT OUT.
01:24:17PM AND ON THAT NOTE, LOOKING AT THESE -- YOU KNOW, I AGREE
01:24:26PM CHAIR MANISCALCO TO A POINT.
01:24:27PM WE NEED TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS, BUT PERSONAL -- PERSONAL
01:24:32PM FINANCE IS NOT THE SAME AS GOVERNMENT FINANCE.
01:24:34PM A LOT -- I MEAN WE DO BOND.
01:24:36PM WE BOND AS A GOVERNMENT.
01:24:37PM AS A PERSONAL -- MY GOAL IS TO NOT HAVE MUCH DEBT AT ALL,
01:24:43PM BUT A GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS GOING TO FLOAT SOME TYPE OF DEBT.
01:24:45PM AND I COMPLETELY ACCEPTABLE OF THAT THAT IS NORMAL AND OTHER
01:24:55PM THING -- THIS IS SLIDE 19. IF YOU CAN BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
01:24:58PM THIS IS TOTAL CITY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST AND ANNUAL
01:25:02PM PAYMENTS.
01:25:02PM AND THIS IS A HARD THING TO SEE BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT
01:25:10PM GOVERNMENTAL VERSUS ENTERPRISE.
01:25:12PM THIS IS WHERE THE ENTERPRISE GETS ON TOP.
01:25:14PM AND THE ENTERPRISE, EVEN THOUGH WE LOOK AT IT AS GOVERNMENT
01:25:18PM DEBT, THAT DEBT HAS A SOLID WAY OF BEING PAID BACK THAT HAS
01:25:23PM A TRAJECTORY THAT -- OF THE MONTHLY BILLS.
01:25:26PM SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THIS IN THE FUTURE.
01:25:30PM IT IS NICE TO SEE IT TOGETHER, BUT ALSO PULLED SEPARATELY TO
01:25:34PM REALLY SEE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
01:25:35PM THIS -- THE ORANGE IS VERY -- IT IS SCARY, BUT THAT'S THE
01:25:41PM LEAST SCARY PART OF IT FOR ME.
01:25:43PM BECAUSE IT IS -- IT IS DEBT THAT IS GOING -- I MEAN, WE HAVE
01:25:48PM A SOLID WAY OF PAYING FOR THAT, BUT THE BLUE IS THE STUFF
01:25:52PM THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DISCUSS MORE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
01:25:57PM AS MUCH ROOM.
01:25:58PM IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TONS OF ROOM BUT WHERE WE HAVE THE
01:26:01PM LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PAY THESE BACK.
01:26:03PM I WOULD LOVE TO LOOK AT THAT THIS WAY.
01:26:05PM AN THEN -- THEN THE SAME THING FOR -- FOR -- SO SLIDE 19 AND
01:26:12PM SLIDE 33 IS KIND OF THE SAME WAY.
01:26:14PM THAT IS -- CURRENT DEBT AND FUTURE DEBT.
01:26:20PM WHEN YOU SHOW A SLIDE LIKE THAT.
01:26:23PM AND, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT FY '29.
01:26:28PM CURRENT DEBT IS SO HIGH BECAUSE OF SOLID WASTE.
01:26:31PM WELL, AGAIN, CAN WE MAKE THAT LIKE A DIFFERENT COLOR.
01:26:35PM RIGHT NOW IT IS BLUE AND GREEN.
01:26:38PM IS THERE A WAY TO SECTION SOME OF THAT BLUE INTO ORANGE SO
01:26:43PM WE CAN VISUALIZE A LITTLE BIT BET EVERY WHAT THE ACTUAL
01:26:47PM CURRENT DEBT IS.
01:26:49PM IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
01:26:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
01:26:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PUBLIC HAS BEEN SHOWN A DIFFERENT ONE.
01:26:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WAS IT UP?
01:27:02PM I DID NOT NOTICE.
01:27:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DON'T WORRY.
01:27:04PM WE ARE OKAY.
01:27:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
01:27:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THANK YOU.
01:27:12PM THAT WAS IT.
01:27:13PM I'M SURE I WILL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER, BUT I APPRECIATE
01:27:16PM THIS REPORT AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO CAME TODAY.
01:27:18PM GREAT EXPLANATIONS.
01:27:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON AND CLENDENIN.
01:27:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM TOLD THAT YESTERDAY THE -- THE
01:27:27PM LEGISLATURE FILED HOUSE BILL 991, WHICH WOULD MODIFY SECTION
01:27:34PM 163 REGARDING FROM CRAs AND LIMIT BONDING CAPACITY AND
01:27:39PM THOUGHT TOWN CRAs SOONER.
01:27:42PM BESIDE THE FACT THAT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, CRA IS SEPARATE
01:27:46PM FROM THE CITY.
01:27:47PM WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE DO WITH THE CRA MONEY IN
01:27:50PM THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT WILL SHALL
01:27:53PM BE THERE IF ANY.
01:27:54PM SECOND, THE GOVERNOR HAS PROPOSED GETTING RID OF PROPERTY
01:27:58PM TAXES AND SHIFTING TO SALES TAX.
01:28:00PM DO YOU KNOW WHAT -- WHAT THE SALES TAX AMOUNT WOULD HAVE TO
01:28:04PM BE TO COVER OUR REVENUES WE GET FROM AD VALOREM TAXES?
01:28:07PM AND WHAT -- I WONDER IF THE BONDING EXPERTS CAN TELL US WHAT
01:28:12PM DOES THAT DO FOR OUR BOND RATINGS IFLY THOSE REVENUE SOURCES
01:28:19PM ARE GONE AND SOME ADJUSTMENT PERIOD.
01:28:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ANSWER TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, WE ARE
01:28:23PM CALCULATING THAT NOW.
01:28:24PM WE ARE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN WITH THE
01:28:27PM SALES TAX VERSUS THE PROPERTY TAX.
01:28:31PM SECOND QUESTION I WILL TURN TO ANY EXPERT WHO MAY BE ABLE TO --
01:28:35PM DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE ARE A THRONG OF PEOPLE COMING UP TO
01:28:39PM THE PODIUM.
01:28:40PM WE CAN RESEARCH IT AND CIRCLE BACK TO YOU, SIR.
01:28:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK THE HIGHEST SALES TAX IN THE
01:28:45PM COUNTRY IS AROUND 10%.
01:28:46PM MAYBE MORE.
01:28:47PM MAYBE IN CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES, ARMED THERE.
01:28:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY HAVE STATE INCOME TAX.
01:28:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: LET ME SAY THAT I THINK THE GOVERNOR WILL
01:28:57PM HAVE TO HAVE LEGISLATURE PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND TO THE
01:29:01PM FLORIDA CONSTITUTION.
01:29:02PM MAY BE A YEAR OR MORE AWAY, BUT IF IT PASSES.
01:29:07PM >> JERRY FORD.
01:29:16PM YOU HAVE NO DEBT THAT IS SECURED BY AD VALOREM TAXES.
01:29:19PM ALL NONAD VALOREM, SALES TAX AND OTHER FORMS OF REVENUE.
01:29:23PM THE CHALLENGE WITH ELIMINATING A PROPERTY TAX ANYWHERE WHERE
01:29:27PM THERE WAS PROP 13 IN CALIFORNIA WHEN HE WAS THERE IN
01:29:33PM GRADUATE SCHOOL WORKING FOR THE CITY OF CLEARMONT --
01:29:43PM REAL ISSUE THIS RISE AND FALL.
01:29:45PM UNPREDICTABLE.
01:29:48PM SAW THAT BACK IN THE '07 AND '08 TIME FRAME.
01:29:52PM NOT DUE TO THE DEBT YOU HAVE TODAY BECAUSE THAT DEBT IS NOT
01:29:55PM SECURED BY AD VALOREM TAXES.
01:29:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:30:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE STATEMENT ABOUT THAT, SALES TAX
01:30:04PM DISPROPORTION FASTBALL THAT IMPACTS MIDDLE CLASS AND
01:30:07PM WORKING PEOPLE AND BENEFITS THE EXTRAORDINARY WEALTHY BY THE
01:30:10PM WAY.
01:30:10PM SO THAT -- THAT IS ONE THING TO SAY.
01:30:15PM WATCH OUT FOR THAT.
01:30:16PM ON BONDING, I WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE MY POSITION ON THIS THAT
01:30:21PM BONDING -- GOVERNMENT BONDING AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HIT ON
01:30:24PM THIS.
01:30:24PM APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR GOVERNMENT BONDING THAT WE HAVE
01:30:28PM GENERATIONAL FINANCING OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:30:30PM IF DID YOU NOT HAVE BONDING, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY
01:30:33PM TODAY WOULD HAVE TO PAY REALTIME FOR -- FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
01:30:37PM HAS GOT, LIKE, A LONGEVITY OF 40, 50 YEARS IN THE FUTURE.
01:30:41PM SO -- SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE OF YOUR YOUTH WOULD END UP
01:30:47PM HAVING TO FULLY PAY YOUR TAXES WOULD HAVE TO GO UP SO YOU
01:30:50PM WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR $100 MILLION PROJECT TODAY THAT PEOPLE
01:30:54PM ARE GOING TO BE USING 30 YEARS FROM NOW.
01:30:57PM SO IT IS A -- IT IS OF INTEREST OF FAIRNESS AMORIZING COST
01:31:06PM OF THAT PROJECT OVER THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY.
01:31:08PM PEOPLE WHO ARE THE EVEN BORN YET OR PEOPLE MOVING IN THIS
01:31:12PM SPARE I CAN'T.
01:31:12PM A REALLY APPROPRIATE USE OF THAT.
01:31:15PM AND, ALSO, JUST -- JUST ON A PURE -- TRYING TO RELATE IT
01:31:19PM BACK TO BE COUNCIL -- CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
01:31:22PM THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BONDING WANTS VERSUS NEEDS.
01:31:25PM AND YOUR NEEDS -- LIKE FOR YOUR HOME.
01:31:28PM YOU -- YOU WILL FINANCE A HOUSE BECAUSE THE AMOUNT -- THE
01:31:32PM AMOUNT OF MONEY THIS IT TAKES TO DO IT AND OVER THE COST --
01:31:36PM OF YOU LIVING IN THAT HOME PER YEAR IS THE SAME THING WITH
01:31:39PM THE CITY.
01:31:40PM THESE LARGE PROJECTS, YOU CAN'T REALLY ABSORB ONE FISCAL
01:31:44PM YEAR.
01:31:44PM YOU NEED TO SPREAD IT OUT.
01:31:46PM AND THE WAY WE BRING REVENUE IN, IT IS JUST -- IT IS A WAY
01:31:49PM FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DISPERSE THAT MONEY OVER MULTIPLE
01:31:54PM FISCAL YEARS IN A PREDICTABLE WAY.
01:31:56PM SO THERE IS -- AGAIN, A VERY MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEEDS
01:32:01PM VERSUS WANTS.
01:32:02PM I WILL GO WITH YOU ON THE WANT STUFF VERSUS THE NEEDS STUFF.
01:32:06PM SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
01:32:08PM VERY MUCH A LOGICAL PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT FINANCING THAT WE
01:32:12PM SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHEN WE CAN.
01:32:14PM I MEAN, SHAME THAT WE DID NOT FINANCE EVERYTHING WITH
01:32:19PM HISTORICALLY LOW INTEREST RATES.
01:32:20PM I THINK IF WE CAN GO BACKWARDS, WE WOULD HAVE FINANCED
01:32:24PM EVERYTHING ON THE EARTH DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND WOULD
01:32:27PM BE PAYING VERY LITTLE INTEREST RATES ON THOSE THINGS AND
01:32:30PM BUDGET FAT, DUMB AND HAPPY LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.
01:32:34PM WE DID NOT AND HERE WE ARE TODAY.
01:32:36PM I THINK THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
01:32:38PM I WANTED TO RIGHT SET THAT CONVERSATION TO SAYS IT A
01:32:41PM BALANCE.
01:32:41PM I THINK THERE ARE THINGS WE SHOULD -- WE SHOULD SUPPORT
01:32:44PM THROUGH FINANCING.
01:32:44PM THINGS COMING UP AS I SAID WHEN WE VOTED ON THESE
01:32:47PM AUTHORIZATIONS THAT -- THAT'S NOT GOING TO SUPPORT FINANCING
01:32:51PM THESE THINGS.
01:32:51PM WHEN THOSE VOTES COME UP, I WON'T SUPPORT BONDING THOSE
01:32:56PM THINGS AND HERE WE GO.
01:32:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:32:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MAY BE THE FIRST TIME TO POST VERY BRIEFLY
01:33:04PM OF COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND YOUR INITIAL COMMENTS, MR.
01:33:06PM CHAIR.
01:33:06PM WE TALK OF BONDING CAPACITY, I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR --
01:33:10PM REMIND COUNCIL TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC.
01:33:12PM WE ARE NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD.
01:33:15PM WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD IS UP TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL BASED ON
01:33:19PM PRIORITIES, REVENUE FORECASTS, ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
01:33:22PM THIS IS SIMPLY THE FLEXIBILITY AND GRAVITY.
01:33:25PM I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THAT MISIMPRESSION THAT YOU CAN AFFORD
01:33:29PM TO BOND ALL THAT MUCH.
01:33:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:33:33PM STEPHANIE POYNOR, THAT WILL CLOSE OUT TODAY'S WORKSHOP WITH
01:33:38PM NEW BUSINESS FINALIZING IT.
01:33:40PM YES, MA'AM.
01:33:41PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:33:46PM $3.5 BILLION IN CAPACITY AND $2.8 MILLION IN CURRENT.
01:33:52PM THAT IS 80% OF OUR DEBT TO -- OUR DEBT RATIO -- I MIGHT BE
01:33:59PM WRONG.
01:34:00PM I JUST USED THE NUMBER THAT WASES IN THIS.
01:34:02PM I COULD BE.
01:34:03PM YOU KNOW, I -- AND I'M WITH COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:34:08PM WANTS, NEEDS.
01:34:09PM YES.
01:34:10PM I WANT US TO BOND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:34:12PM BECAUSE WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:34:13PM WE NEED IT DESPERATELY.
01:34:16PM BUT I -- SOME OF QUESTIONS THAT COME INTO MY HEAD IS HOW
01:34:21PM MUCH ARE THESE BONDING NUMBERS ARE PROJECTED TO COME FROM
01:34:24PM FEDERAL DOLLARS.
01:34:25PM WE LEARNED TODAY WE DON'T GET THE MONEY UNTIL WE SPENT THE
01:34:29PM MONEY.
01:34:29PM HOW MUCH WILL COME FROM FEDERAL DOLLARS?
01:34:32PM I AM TELLING YOU -- I AM -- I AM NOT GOING TO SAY WHAT I WAS
01:34:36PM GOING TO SAY.
01:34:36PM BOTTOM LINE IS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE RAISING
01:34:41PM OUR FEES AND GETTING OUR FEES UP TO OUR ACTUAL COSTS BECAUSE
01:34:46PM SOME OF THIS CAN BE OFFSET BE THAT.
01:34:48PM I ASKED FOR THE MOBILITY PLAN TO BE PRESENTED 15 TIMES.
01:34:54PM I HAVE HAD IT SINCE 2023 AND NOBODY FROM COUNCIL HAVE ASKED
01:34:58PM YOU TO BRING IT BACK SO WE CAN MAYBE START RAISING THE FEE.
01:35:03PM I DON'T GET IT.
01:35:04PM WHAT IS THE TIPPING POINT FROM DEBT TO INCOME WHERE YOUR
01:35:08PM DEBT FEES ARE.
01:35:08PM WHEN I SEE A CREDIT SCORE AND SOMEBODY HAS USED UP 80% OF
01:35:13PM THEIR CREDIT, I AM TELLING THEM PROBABLY NOT UNLESS HE HAS
01:35:18PM A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE BANK.
01:35:20PM I WANT TO KNOW HOWLING DOES A TRANSACTION FOR FINANCING
01:35:24PM USUALLY TAKE OFF TO HAVE FAY OFF IN THE REAL WORLD.
01:35:27PM YOU REFINANCE AS PROPERTY, RULE OF THUMB IS THREE YEARS.
01:35:31PM YOU HAVE TO STAY IN THE HOUSE FOR THREE YEARS TO PAY OFF TO
01:35:34PM RE-FI.
01:35:35PM HOW LONG ALSO THAT TAKE.
01:35:36PM BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN, AGAIN, IS THE FEDERAL DOLLARS.
01:35:41PM I DON'T BELIEVE WE WILL GET $5 FROM D.C. ANY TIME SOON.
01:35:46PM WE START COUNT BE CHICKENS BEFORE THEY HATCH.
01:35:51PM I FEEL THAT REALLY BAD PLAN FOR ANYTHING BUT AN ABSOLUTE
01:35:55PM POSITIVE NEED, NOT A WANT, BUT A NEED AT THE.
01:36:00PM THEN WE CAN START SPENDING MONEY ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHERE
01:36:03PM THEY ARE GOING TO LAND, BUT THESE GUYS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT
01:36:05PM THEY ARE DOING.
01:36:06PM THEY ARE SAYING -- THEY ARE -- THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE LINE
01:36:09PM EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
01:36:10PM AND UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO
01:36:14PM AND WHETHER ANYBODY IS GOING TO STAND UP AND SAY, HEY, WE
01:36:17PM HAVE -- WE HAVE ROLES AND RESOLUTIONS.
01:36:18PM I HAVE A DOCTORAL CANDIDATE FRIEND WHO HAS NOT RECEIVED HER
01:36:23PM MONEY THIS MONTH OR THIS SEMESTER.
01:36:26PM SHE CAN'T EVEN ACCESS TO FINISH HER DOCTORATE BECAUSE THEY
01:36:30PM CLOSED DOWN ALL OF THE CENSUS DATA.
01:36:32PM CLOSED DOWN OTHER DATA SITES TO FINISH HER DOCTORATE IN
01:36:38PM BRIDGES AND HIGHLY NEED AREA.
01:36:40PM CAN'T FINISH HER WORK AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO PAY HER
01:36:43PM BILLS.
01:36:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT THROUGH STUDENT LOANS?
01:36:49PM >> NO, HER -- SHE IS A VETERAN.
01:36:51PM SO SHE -- SHE GETS HER VETERANS MONEY BUT -- WORK STUDY
01:36:57PM MONEY.
01:36:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:36:58PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THEN WE WILL KICK IT OFF WITH NEW
01:37:02PM BUSINESS.
01:37:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A REAL QUICK QUESTION FOR MR. ROGERO.
01:37:05PM IN THIS GREAT EIGHT REPORT, THE REPORT, NOT THE
01:37:11PM PRESENTATION, AND I HATE -- Y'ALL ARE GOING TO KILL ME FOR
01:37:16PM BEATING A DEAD HORSE.
01:37:17PM BUT ON HERE, IT SAYS THE WEST REFERWALK A $24 MILLION
01:37:23PM FEDERAL BUILD GRANT.
01:37:26PM DO WE -- I REMEMBER CORRECTLY $5.7, NOT $24 MILLION.
01:37:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT WAS SUBSTANTIAL, $24 MILLION.
01:37:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU HAVE THAT MONEY IN THE BACK.
01:37:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: REIMBURSABLE GRANT.
01:37:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S REIMBURSABLE.
01:37:45PM THE WEST RIVERWALK, WE DON'T HAVE A PENNY OF THAT $24
01:37:49PM MILLION.
01:37:50PM REIMBURSABLE.
01:37:52PM WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT MONEY AND WE APPROVED THAT.
01:37:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:37:57PM ANY NEW BUSINESS?
01:37:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, WE HAVE A NIGHT MEETING TONIGHT.
01:38:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:38:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: FUNNY, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, I WAS GOING
01:38:08PM TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW I WOULD BE HERE.
01:38:10PM HAVE IT, KIND SIR.
01:38:13PM BUT I WANT TO SAY, COUNCIL, I SENT A MEMO THAT THIS EVENING
01:38:16PM I WOULD BE HERE IN PERSON.
01:38:17PM MY SON HAS A SCHOOL TRIP TO NEW YORK CITY.
01:38:20PM AND ONE PARENT HAS GOT TO BE FOR A PREPARATION MEETING AT
01:38:25PM FREEDOM HIGH SCHOOL OF TAMPA PALMS.
01:38:27PM AND LONG STORY SHORT, I HAVE TO BE BE THERE IN PERSON.
01:38:30PM SO HE WILL BE HERE FROM 5 TO 6.
01:38:32PM RUN OVER TO FREEDOM.
01:38:34PM AS SOON AS IT IS DONE.
01:38:35PM I WILL BE BACK VIRTUALLY SO SO MY APOLOGIES.
01:38:39PM I WAS GOING TO ASK IF SOMEBODY COULD MAKE THIS -- IN CASE I
01:38:44PM AM NOT HERE.
01:38:45PM MAY I MAKE A QUICK MOTION, IF I MAY -- ACTUALLY TWO, IF I
01:38:49PM MAY.
01:38:49PM TAMPA FIRE STATION 25 FOR THE QUARTERLY REPORT COMES UP ON
01:38:53PM MAY 15.
01:38:53PM MY MOTION PURSUANT TO WHAT I SAID BEFORE, THAT STAFF REPORT
01:38:57PM ON ALL EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS
01:39:01PM FOR 2025 RIBBON CUTTING AND OPENING IN 2027 IN THE MAY 5th
01:39:06PM MEETING TO SPECIFY ALL EFFORTS DONE.
01:39:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:39:11PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:39:11PM OPPOSED?
01:39:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
01:39:14PM THIS IS ON MARCH 27.
01:39:17PM AND I AM GOING TO MOVE AN ITEM THERE ON CEMETERIES TO MAY
01:39:22PM 15.
01:39:22PM WE HAVE APPARENTLY FROM THE STATE -- FROM THE FED A GREAT
01:39:27PM DEAL OF MONEY THAT IS COMING TO US, SELF-HUNDRED MILLIONS
01:39:31PM FROM THE COUNTY AND POTENTIALLY PART OF IT TO THE CITY OF
01:39:34PM TAMPA.
01:39:34PM WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET AN UPDATE ON THE MONEY WITH ALL THE
01:39:39PM UNCERTAINTY HANG IN -- HAPPENING IN D.C.
01:39:45PM AND NEXT AVAILABLE REPORT IS MARCH 27 AND MOVE CEMETERY ITEM
01:39:50PM TO MAY 15 TO MAKE ROOM SO WE ARE GOOD WITH OUR RULES.
01:39:53PM THAT IS MY MOTION, IF I MAY.
01:39:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
01:39:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:39:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:40:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: HE WILL HAVE A MEMO SENT OUT ON THE
01:40:05PM CEMETERY ITEM.
01:40:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:40:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIRMAN ASKED THAT HE WAIT UNTIL THIS
01:40:10PM EVENING TO INTRODUCE THIS RESOLUTION.
01:40:11PM CAN I ASK TO DO IT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING -- THE
01:40:17PM COMMENDATION AND THE PRESENTATION.
01:40:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO IT NOW.
01:40:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT YOU WANTED ME TO DO IT TONIGHT
01:40:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, YOU ARE GOOD.
01:40:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE.
01:40:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU LIKE MARTY TO PUT IT UP.
01:40:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO -- YOU KNOW, TAMPA IS A VERY DIVERSE
01:40:37PM CITY.
01:40:37PM AND WE HONOR OUR DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY OF ALL WALKS OF --
01:40:42PM AND AN INCREDIBLE PLACE TO LIVE AND RAISE CHILDREN IN.
01:40:46PM AND PART OF THAT INCREDIBLE DIVERSITY IS OUR MUSLIM
01:40:49PM COMMUNITY.
01:40:49PM I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION CELEBRATING MUSLIM
01:40:55PM HERITAGE MONTH IN CONJUNCTION WHERE RAMADAN 2025, WHEREAS
01:41:00PM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS PROMOTED OF INCLUSIVITY, DIVERSITY
01:41:06PM CULTURAL UNDERSTANDING OF ALL OF ILLS OF RESIDENTS.
01:41:08PM MUSLIMS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE SOCIAL FABRIC OF TAMPA
01:41:11PM ENRICHING OUR CITY WITH THEIR DIVERSE TRADITIONS AND
01:41:15PM PERSPECTIVE, WHEREAS, A RAMADAN THE NINTH MONTH OF THE
01:41:19PM ISLAMIC LUNAR CALENDAR OF PRAYER, WERE ELECTION IN OF
01:41:23PM MUSLIMS WORLDWIDE.
01:41:25PM WHEREAS, THE 2025 RAMADAN COMMENCE ON THE EVENING FRIDAY,
01:41:29PM FEBRUARY 28, 2025 AND CONCLUDE ON THE EVENING OF SATURDAY
01:41:33PM MARCH 29, 2025 SUBJECT TO THE SIGHTINGS OF THE MOON.
01:41:37PM CELEBRATING THIS PERIOD AS MUSLIM HERITAGE MONTH PROVIDES AND
01:41:41PM OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE RICH HERITAGE,
01:41:43PM HISTORY AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF MUSLIM-AMERICANS IN TAMPA AND
01:41:48PM BEYOND.
01:41:49PM SUCH RECOGNITION FOSTERS GREAT UNDERSTANDING, APPRECIATION
01:41:54PM OF ISLAMIC CULTURE WITH UNITY AND RESPECT OF ALL
01:41:58PM COMMUNITIES.
01:41:58PM WHEREAS, SIMILAR NEGOTIATIONS UNDER TAKEN, DECEMBER 22
01:42:03PM MUSLIM HERITAGE MONTH IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA OF
01:42:06PM RECOGNIZING THE MUM CONTRIBUTION INFORMATION OUR SOCIETY.
01:42:09PM WHEREAS, THE CITY OF TAMPA ACKNOWLEDGES IMPORTANCE OF
01:42:12PM INCLUSIVITY CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS.
01:42:16PM NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
01:42:19PM CITY OF TAMPA THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA CELEBRATES THE PERIOD
01:42:23PM FEBRUARY 28 TO MARCH 29, AS MUSLIM HERITAGE MONTH IN
01:42:29PM CONJUNCTION WITH OBSERVATIONS OF RAMADAN.
01:42:31PM THE CITY ENCOURAGING EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND COMMUNITY
01:42:35PM ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE IN PROGRAMS THAT IS
01:42:38PM CELEBRATE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF MUM COMMUNITY.
01:42:40PM THE CITY SUPPORTS INITIATIVES THAT PROMOTES UNDERSTANDING,
01:42:45PM RESPECT AND COLLABORATION AMONG ALL CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS
01:42:50PM GROUPS.
01:42:51PM IN RESOLUTION WILL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON ADOPTION.
01:42:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND BY HURTAK.
01:42:59PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:43:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: DOES THAT MEAN WE ADOPT IT?
01:43:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
01:43:06PM THIS IS A DRAFT -- THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT IS PRESENTED.
01:43:10PM IT CAN BE PUT INTO PROPER FORM AND BROUGHT BACK TONIGHT
01:43:13PM >> OKAY.
01:43:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, FUNNY --
01:43:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TIM, DID YOU HEAR THAT?
01:43:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: FUNNY, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:43:21PM BECAUSE MDF.
01:43:23PM I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WOK WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICES TO GET A
01:43:26PM PROCLAMATION ON THE SAME THING.
01:43:28PM I DIDN'T KNOW THEY SENT YOU THAT.
01:43:31PM I THOUGHT I WOULD MOTION AND WRITE SOMETHING UP INCOMES WEEK
01:43:34PM BECAUSE MARCH --
01:43:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS STARTS TOMORROW NIGHT.
01:43:38PM RAMADAN STARTS TOMORROW NIGHT.
01:43:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
01:43:41PM THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR.
01:43:42PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
01:43:44PM HE WAS GOING TO ASK IF SOMEONE COULD MAKE A MOTION IF I'M
01:43:47PM NOT HERE.
01:43:49PM PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WITH THAT.
01:43:53PM HE WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE NEW TAMPA REC CENTER.
01:43:57PM I DO IT EVERY YEAR WITH RAMADAN AND CHRISTMAS AND HANNAKAH.
01:44:00PM ONE FOR DIWALI AS WELL.
01:44:04PM HE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHENEVER THAT IS, MAKER OF THE MOTION
01:44:08PM WANTS TO PRESENT IT TO SOMEBODY THERE, HAVE IT.
01:44:10PM DELIGHTED.
01:44:11PM >> COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:44:13PM NOW.
01:44:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE QUICK THING.
01:44:20PM -- RIDE THE BUS WITH THE NEW ROUTE ONE.
01:44:24PM SO WE ARE TAKING TOUR THROUGH TAMPA HEATS WHERE WE ARE GOING
01:44:27PM TO GET ON AT THE SPROUTS ON TAMPA STREET AND TAKE IT DOWN TO
01:44:30PM THE STREET CAR.
01:44:30PM TAKE THE STREET CAR TO SPARKMAN.
01:44:33PM AND EVERYBODY WILL GET THEIR OWN LUNCH AND COME BACK TO SHOW
01:44:36PM PEOPLE HOW TO USE THE BUS AND HOWL TO USE THE DIFFERENT APPS
01:44:40PM AND TO UPDATE Y'ALL ON THIS.
01:44:43PM LAST YEAR, THERE WERE -- THE RIDERSHIP WAS 3100 IN DECEMBER.
01:44:47PM AND IN JANUARY, IT WENT TO 4,000 A MONTH.
01:44:52PM AND AS OF LAST MONTH, WE HAVE HEARD THAT IT IS NOW 4800
01:44:57PM RIDERS A WEEK.
01:44:58PM LAST WEEK, IT EVEN GOT TO 4950.
01:45:01PM THOSE ARE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS AND A WILD SUCCESS, AND FEEL
01:45:08PM LIKE I CAN SAY THAT.
01:45:10PM ANY MEMBER OF COMMUNITY WHO WILL BE JOINING US ON SATURDAY.
01:45:15PM AT 11 A.M.
01:45:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I WOULD LIKE TO
01:45:19PM OBJECT.
01:45:19PM SECOND TIME TODAY YOU HAVE STEPPED ON MY TOES WITH DAD
01:45:23PM JOKES.
01:45:24PM A WONDERFUL -- A ONE-DERFUL.
01:45:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DID NOT CHOOSE THAT.
01:45:31PM AN ACTIVIST CHOSE THAT.
01:45:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA OBJECT
01:45:35PM TO THAT.
01:45:36PM TWO TIMES TODAY YOU HAVE DONE THAT.
01:45:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, SORRY, I GUESS, YOU KNOW.
01:45:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:45:42PM THIS NEW BUSINESS.
01:45:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY FOR
01:45:53PM REACHING OUT US TO AND WE WISH THEM WELL OVER THE NEXT
01:45:57PM MONTH.
01:45:57PM FLOODING ISSUE BECAUSE WE WANT TO MOVE IN FORWARD QUICKLY.
01:46:01PM MANY PLACES IN SOUTH TAMPA AT LEAST WHERE IS THERE USED TO
01:46:05PM BE RETENTION PONDS, BUT SOMEHOW, HOUSES WERE APPROVED FOR
01:46:09PM BUILDING INSIDE FORM ARE RETENTION PONDS.
01:46:11PM I HAVE BEEN OUT TO THESE PLACES WITH STORMWATER AND
01:46:14PM WASTEWATER AND OTHERS.
01:46:15PM AND IN SOME PLACES -- I DON'T WANT TO MENTION ADDRESSES SOME
01:46:19PM PLACES TO BUY THE HOUSES AND REMOVE THE RETENTION BONDS.
01:46:27PM I WANT TO ASK CITY STAFF TO PROCURE LAND THAT WAS PONDS OR
01:46:31PM RETENTION PONDS TO ARE RETENTION AREAS AND REZONED TO HOMES
01:46:35PM AND REPORT BACK ON JUNE 5.
01:46:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:46:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:46:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:46:43PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:46:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET HIM FINISH.
01:46:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: LAST THING.
01:46:49PM LYNN AND I WERE AT A TOUR OF HYDE PARK SATURDAY -- LAST
01:46:55PM SATURDAY.
01:46:55PM IT DOESN'T TIME IT WAS -- HAROLD WALKER, A LONG-TIME LEADER
01:47:00PM OF HYDE PARK AREA AND COMMUNITY IN GENERAL RAISED MONEY
01:47:03PM TWICE WORKING WITH PARKS TO REDO KATE JACKSON PARK.
01:47:07PM WAS IN THE PROCESS OF REDOING HYDE PARK.
01:47:10PM WE HAD MEETINGS WITH TONY MULKEY AND OTHERS ABOUT THAT.
01:47:13PM HE RAISED MONEY TO REPLACE LIVE -- LAUREL OAKS WITH LIVE
01:47:18PM OAKS IN HYDE PARK.
01:47:19PM PEOPLE WANT TO PROTECT THE -- THE TREE CANOPY, BUT TREES ARE
01:47:23PM FALLING DOWN.
01:47:23PM THEY REPLACED THEM.
01:47:25PM AND HE WAS -- THE -- SOME -- SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS
01:47:30PM WERE RECORDING HIM SPEAKING SO THAT HE COULD TAKE THAT --
01:47:34PM THAT INFORMATION THEN TOMORROW OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD TO REPLANT
01:47:40PM TREES.
01:47:40PM WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND A BLOCK AWAY FROM HIS HOUSE HE
01:47:45PM PASSED OUT AND NEVER RECOVERED.
01:47:46PM -- HIS SERVICE TOMORROW AT HYDE PARK UNITED METHODIST.
01:47:51PM AND THEN AFTERWARDS AT KATE JACKSON PARK.
01:47:54PM THANKS TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR WORKING WITH THEM.
01:47:56PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR AN OFF-SITE COMMENDATION.
01:48:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTIONING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:48:04PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:48:06PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:48:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR HAROLD WALKER.
01:48:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY MOVEMENT OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT
01:48:12PM FORMER ARTS CENTER THERE OFF -- BY THE BASEBALL FIELD, BY
01:48:17PM THE OLD WYNN DIXIE.
01:48:19PM VACANT AND BURNT OUT --
01:48:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT OUTSIDE OF THIS
01:48:25PM FORUM, BUT THE BUILDING HAS BLACK MOLD OR SOMETHING IN IT.
01:48:29PM AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WILL START DEMOLISHING IT BECAUSE
01:48:33PM IT HAS BEEN EMPTY.
01:48:34PM CATHY, DONNA AND OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO PUT A NEW ART CENTER
01:48:38PM IN ITS PLACE.
01:48:39PM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AT THE REQUEST OF HAROLD WALKER AND
01:48:45PM OTHERS IS ABOUT TO START A PROCESS.
01:48:47PM THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD.
01:48:49PM ABOUT TO START A PROS STOWS TALK TO THE PUBLIC WHAT SHOULD
01:48:52PM GO IN THAT PARK.
01:48:53PM THAT IS THE PARK ON SWANN NEXT TO WYNN DIXIE CALLED HYDE
01:48:59PM PARK.
01:48:59PM PARK IS CALLED HYDE PARK.
01:49:01PM IDEA IS TO COPE WITH WHAT IS THERE AND PUT SOMETHING NEW.
01:49:05PM I AM SURE KATHY AND DONNA WILL PUSH FOR AN ART CENTER.
01:49:10PM OTHER PEOPLE MAY PUSH FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
01:49:12PM WE RECOMMEND THAT EVERYBODY PUT THEIR OPINION FORWARD.
01:49:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:49:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I ASK MISS POYNOR ONE POINT.
01:49:23PM OPINION THE FEES AND MOBILITY.
01:49:25PM I LIKE TO BE EXPLICIT WHEN AT THAT MOTION IS MAILED.
01:49:29PM >> THE MOBILITY STUDY THAT I HAVE HAD AT LEAST THE
01:49:32PM PRELIMINARY COPY OF SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2023, AT THAT CAME
01:49:37PM BACK -- THE FEE STUDY.
01:49:38PM YES, THE FEE STUDY.
01:49:40PM BUT I HAVE HAD THAT COPY SINCE 2023.
01:49:43PM AND -- AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
01:49:46PM AND WE PAID FOR SOMETHING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
01:49:48PM AND I ASKED ABOUT IT THEN.
01:49:50PM I SAID WHY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY -- DID WE GET -- I DON'T
01:49:54PM UNDERSTAND --
01:49:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE
01:49:58PM MOBILITY PRESENT TO US THE 2023 PRODUCT THEY PUT TOGETHER
01:50:03PM AND SENT IN TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT TO VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
01:50:07PM >> ANYBODY ASKING FOR IT, SEND ME AN E-MAIL.
01:50:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DIDN'T WE HAVE THIS HAND THIS OFF TO THE
01:50:16PM BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.
01:50:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT MAY 1.
01:50:21PM MAY 1 IS FREE.
01:50:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT IS ON FOR MAY 1.
01:50:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
01:50:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SORRY.
01:50:28PM I REMOVE WHAT I SAID.
01:50:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST GIVING YOU A DATE.
01:50:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAY 1.
01:50:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:50:37PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:50:37PM OPPOSED?
01:50:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
01:50:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:50:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:50:42PM AYE.
01:50:43PM ANY OPPOSED?
01:50:44PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
01:50:46PM WE WILL BE BACK AT 5:01 P.M.
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