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THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:01:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
[INAUDIBLE]
MY MICROPHONE IS ON.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:02:01AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:02:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:02:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:02:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:02:06AM >> VIERA?
MIRANDA?
9:02:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:02:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
9:02:09AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:02:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH.
9:02:13AM >> SO MOVED.
9:02:14AM >> SECOND.
9:02:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BY CLENDENIN, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:02:20AM >> AYE.
9:02:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION CARRIES.
NOW, MR. McCRAY, LET'S COME FORWARD AND SET OUR AGENDA FOR
TODAY.
GOOD MORNING.
9:02:26AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING.
CEDRIC McCRAY, INTERIM DIRECTOR TAMPA CRA.
THE AGENDA -- I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING BEING PULLED FOR
DISCUSSION, WOULD GO AS PRINTED.
9:02:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THERE ARE SOME ITEMS -- THERE IS ONE THING
TO BE CONTINUED -- QUITE A FEW.
JUNE 8.
6, 7, 8.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT?
SECOND BY CLENDENIN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR 6, 7, 8 TO BE CONTINUED?
9:02:56AM >> AYE.
9:03:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANYTHING ELSE?
9:03:00AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO.
9:03:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHAT ABOUT HERE ON COUNCIL?
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION?
MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES AS -- I MEAN, THE AGENDA.
9:03:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
[INDISCERNIBLE]

9:03:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE MOTION WAS BY --
9:03:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
9:03:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
SECOND BY THIS GUY HERE, CLENDENIN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
MOTION CARRIES.
OKAY.
NOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE MR. RANDOLPH ONLINE.
9:03:57AM >> THIS MORNING I WALK WITH A HEAVY HEART.
WE FIND OURSELVES IN A MOMENT, ONE WHERE WE FACE CHALLENGES
AND UNCERTAINTY.
MANY OF US ARE FEELING STRESSED, FEAR, FRUSTRATION.
IT IS TRUE RECENT EVENTS HAVE SHAKEN OUR CONFIDENCE IN THE
PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE TOWARD DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND
INCLUSION.
BUT LET US REMEMBER THE SPREAD OF BLACK WALL STREET, A
SYMBOL OF ECONOMIC PROSPERITY AND SELF-SUFFICIENCY THAT
SERVES AS A POWERFUL REMINDER OF WHAT WE CAN DO WHEN WE WORK
TOGETHER.
WITH OVER 1.5 TRILLION -- EVERY YEAR, THE BLACK COMMUNITY
HOLDS AN IMMENSE ECONOMIC PROTECTION.
NOW MORE THAN EVER IT IS A TIME TO HARNESS THAT POWER TO
CREATE OUR OWN DEI.
WE MUST COME TOGETHER NOT AS INDIVIDUALS BUT AS A UNIFIED

COMMUNITY, OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS KEEPERS.
HISTORY HAS SHOWN US THAT WHEN WE FOCUS INNOVATION, WE CAN
RECEIVE GREATNESS.
THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY IS UNLIKE ANY IN RECENT HISTORY.
TECHNOLOGY, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR EVERYONE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT TO THE COLLEGE
GRADUATE TO ADVANCE INCLUSION.
TIME TO MOVE FROM A CONSUMER MINDSET TO ONE OF INVESTING,
MAKING MONEY WORK FOR US INSTEAD OF US WORKING FOR MONEY.
CREATING A GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
I SEE CONFLICT AND DIVISION AMONG US.
WHAT IF WE COULD SET ASIDE DIFFERENCES AND UNITE OUR COMING
TOGETHER?
WE CAN TURN LEMONS INTO LEMONADE AND CREATE A LEGACY OF
PROSPERITY AND EMPOWERMENT.
IN THE WORDS OF THE GREAT JAMES BROWN, I'M BLACK AND I'M
PROUD.
THANK YOU.
9:06:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER VIERA IS ON HIS WAY.
STUCK IN TRAFFIC.
HE WILL BE HERE SHORTLY.
WE WILL CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
THERE'S NO PARTICULAR ORDER.
YOU MAY COME FORWARD, LINE UP ON THE SIDE.

ARE THERE TECHNICAL ISSUES FOR US OR EVERYTHING IS OKAY?
9:06:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, WE CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.
9:06:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S NOT BROADCASTING.
9:06:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED.
GIVE US JUST A SECOND AND MAKE SURE WE GET THIS ON RECORD.
9:07:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE LARGE SCREEN TELEVISION IS NOT
SHOWING.
IT IS A WHITE BLANK SCREEN.
9:07:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MS. MIMI.
9:09:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MIMI MARTINEZ, RESIDENT OF YBOR HEIGHTS AND MEMBER OF THE
EAST TAMPA CAC.
I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE CONCERNS I HAVE FOR THE
POTENTIAL OF THE CRAs BEING SHUT DOWN.
AS WE KNOW, THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS ONCE AGAIN TRYING TO
SHUT DOWN THE CRAs.
I THINK THE BIGGEST LESSON FOR US TO LEARN FROM THAT IS NOW
MORE THAN EVER WE NEED TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN PRIORITIZING
WHAT PROJECTS WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT AND FOR THE CACs
ESPECIALLY TO UNITE TO STRATEGICALLY PLAN AND ORGANIZE WHAT
PROJECTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO FUND.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE KNOW THAT, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH SUPPORTING

BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO CREATE JOBS FOR US.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE INVEST IN
THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WE KNOW HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED A
GOOD REPUTATION IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE KNOW THEY ARE
GOING TO DELIVER ON WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO FOR
THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO THAT WE CONTINUE TO ACQUIRE LAND SO
WE GO AHEAD AND GET THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE POTENTIALLY HAVE NINE YEARS LEFT.
THAT'S IT.
THAT'S NOT A LONG TIME.
NOW MORE THAN EVER, WE NEED THE CRA BOARD TO HELP THE CACs
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUSH ALONG THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE A
PRIORITY, WHICH IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
ONCE WE PUT HOUSING UP, THAT WILL STAY THERE FOREVER.
ONCE WE INVEST IN BUSINESSES THAT CONTINUE TO BRING IN MORE
BUSINESSES INTO THE AREA, THOSE ARE LONG-TERM INVESTMENTS
WORTH WORKING ON.
SO I ADVOCATE THAT YOU PLEASE SUPPORT THAT.
THIS LEADS ME TO THE SANCHEZ Y HAYA BUILDING.
I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THAT.
WE KNOW THEY ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE COMMUNITY AND WILL DO
WHAT THEY SAY THEY DO.
I ADVOCATE THAT YOU APPROVE MONEY TO FUND THEM.
THANK YOU.

9:10:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
GOOD MORNING.
9:11:07AM >> UHURU.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
THE NAME IS MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, AS I'VE SAID REPEATEDLY, THIS IS A
DO-NOTHING CITY COUNCIL.
AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT IS ALL THE CITY COUNCILS PRIOR TO
THAT THE SAME THING.
NOTHING DIFFERENT.
THE CITY IS ACTUALLY AN AUTOMATIC.
THE CITY IS AUTOMATIC.
MOST CITIES ON AUTOMATIC.
THE WORLD IS ON AUTOMATIC, PERIOD.
BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IS YOU DO SEE PROGRESS.
YOU DO SEE ADVANCEMENT, BUT THAT'S ADVANCEMENT BASED ON THE
PEOPLE, THE COLLECTIVE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS TALK ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT.
HOW DO YOU GO FROM TALKING ABOUT REPARATIONS, BLACK POWER,
SELF-DETERMINATION, FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE FOR AFRICAN
PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT BECAUSE CHILD SUPPORT IS
A BIG EUGENICS PROGRAM.
IT IS AN ETHNICS CLEANSING PROGRAM BEING RAN THROUGH THE
CIRCUIT COURTS, ALL THE STATE COURTS AND PRIVATE

ORGANIZATIONS.
CHILD SUPPORT IS RUINING MANY AFRICAN FAMILIES.
BUT THAT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT TO WHITE PEOPLE.
THAT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT TO NORTH AMERICANS.
BUT I WANT TO SAY THIS ALSO, ANY PERSON, ANY MAN, I CAN'T
SPEAK FOR WOMEN BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A VAGINA, ANY MAN WHO
ALLOWS THE GOVERNMENT TO GO IN THEIR CHECK WHEN THEY WORK
AND DO A GARNISHMENT OR A DEDUCTION IS A COWARD, PLAIN AND
SIMPLE.
ANY MAN THAT ALLOWS THE GOVERNMENT TO GO IN THEIR CHECK WHEN
THEY WORK, AFTER THEY WORK, THAT ALLOWS THE GOVERNMENT TO GO
IN THEIR CHECK AND DO A GARNISHMENT, THAT MAN IS LESS THAN A
MAN.
THAT MAN IS A COWARD, A PUNK, A SISSY, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING
LESS.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
CHILD SUPPORT IS ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
THIS CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I STATED THIS CITY COUNCIL NEED TO CALL THE CHIEF JUDGE, ASK
THEM WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE HEARING OFFICERS OVER THERE,
SPECIFICALLY HEARING OFFICER SABRINA FRYE, DAUGHTERS OF A
CONFEDERACY WITCH.
PULL HER RECORD AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.
THEY ARE RUINING BLACK FAMILIES, CHILD SUPPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:13:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER, PLEASE.
GOOD MORNING.
9:14:02AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I AM JEFF JANKE, SPEAKING FOR MANY CONCERNED.
MY CITY COUNCIL WOMAN IS EDUCATOR GWEN HENDERSON.
9:14:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD, SIR.
9:14:17AM >> YES.
9:14:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHAT IS YOUR LAST NAME?
9:14:20AM >> I AM A RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
THESE ISSUES -- THE ISSUES WE'RE EXPERIENCING ARE MISSING,
NONEXISTING AND NON-MAINTAINED LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION
SYSTEMS AND ISSUES ON ALL THE STREETS EXCEPT FOR MERIDIAN
AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
THIS HAS BEEN OCCURRING FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME --
YEARS.
THIS IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY EXCEPT WHERE DEVELOPERS
OR OWNERS HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OTHERWISE.
AND THAT DOES OCCUR.
NUMEROUS EFFORTS TO RESOLVE THIS THROUGH THE PARK AND RECS
DEPARTMENT, THROUGH THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT COMMUNITY
ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAVE NOT LED TO A SOLUTION.
ONE ISSUE IS THAT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN SOME PROPERTY OWNERS
AND THE CITY CANNOT BE LOCATED AND THEREFORE THE CITY'S AREA
RESPONSIBILITY CAN'T BE SPECIFIED AND IS NOT CLEAR.

I'VE BEEN TOLD, ALONG WITH OTHERS WHO GO TO THE CAC MEETING,
THAT THE CAC WOULD BE WILLING TO FUND THIS AND GET IT
RESOLVED, BUT WE ARE FINDING THAT -- AND ALSO EXPEDITE THIS,
BUT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES IN ACHIEVING THAT THROUGH THE
PROTOCOL OF THE CITY OR WHATEVER.
AND WE'D LIKE TO EXPEDITE THAT, HAVE IT EXPEDITED, IF
POSSIBLE, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN AROUND SO LONG.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA PRODUCE AN
INVITING ENVIRONMENT, ESPECIALLY FOR ALL OUR TOURISTS AND
CRUISE PASSENGERS DOWN IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AS WELL AS
ITS RESIDENTS.
ALL WE ASK IS THAT THE CITY SUPPORT THIS MATTER AND THE CITY
COUNCIL LOOK INTO IT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET IT RESOLVED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
THANK YOU.
9:16:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
9:16:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ALISON HEWITT, EAST TAMPA RESIDENT AND A BUSINESS OWNER.
I'M COMING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE
AGENDA.
WE ARE REQUESTING PURCHASING PROPERTY TO HELP EXPAND THE
GATOR BUILDING.
VERY HAPPY AND THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THAT.
MY CONCERN THERE IS THAT I'M HOPING WE DO AT LEAST A MARKET
ANALYSIS OR A FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS SO WE'RE NOT BUILDING

SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE MAINTAINED, THAT WE DON'T END UP
WITH ANOTHER VACANT BUILDING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO SMART DEVELOPMENT.
AS WE ARE DOING THE RFP, WE HAVE PUT IN THERE THAT THERE IS
SOME MARKET ANALYSIS, UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING CAN
GO THERE, STAY THERE AND BE SUBSTANTIATED WITH THE FINANCIAL
VIABILITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE NEXT ISSUE I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE HOTEL HAYA.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE PROJECT.
I THINK THE PROJECT IS EXCELLENT.
MY CONCERN IS ABOUT PROCESS.
IN YOUR PACKET ON THE PURCHASING OF THE PROPERTY, YOU WILL
SEE THE CAC RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT WHEN YOU GET TO A $5 MILLION REQUEST, YOU WILL NOT SEE
WHAT THE CAC SAID AND THEY HAD SOME VERY ARTICULATE
CONVERSATIONS AND DEBATE ABOUT HOW TO PRIORITIZE PROJECTS IN
THE COMMUNITY.
AND ACCORDING TO FLORIDA STATUTE 163, THE PURPOSE OF THE CAC
IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THEIR INPUT
FROM THE COMMUNITY.
I JUST THINK THAT IT CAUSES A LACK OF TRUST WHEN THE
COMMUNITY PUTS IN TIME, SITS ON THE CAC, AND HAS A DEBATE ON
HOW TO SPEND THE $5 MILLION AND THEN IT IS NOT REFLECTED IN
THE NOTES, OR AT LEAST THE NOTES THAT WERE PUT ONLINE THAT
WE WERE ABLE TO REVIEW.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EMPOWERING OUR
COMMUNITY AND OUR CACs TO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, TALK
AND BRING THEIR OPINIONS BACK, AT LEAST PUT THEIR CAC
COMMENTS IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME BEFORE YOU AS
YOU'RE MAKING THE DECISIONS BECAUSE, AGAIN, AS THE FLORIDA
LEGISLATURE MOVES FORWARD, IF IT PASSES IN ITS CURRENT FORM,
WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ENCUMBER ANY MONEY AFTER OCTOBER 1 OF
THIS YEAR.
SO IF THAT PASSES, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN
LOCKSTEP WORKING WITH THE CACs TO PUT AS MANY PROJECTS AS
WE CAN UNDER CONTRACT BEFORE OCTOBER 1 AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO
DO ANY MORE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY IN EAST TAMPA, WHO IS
BEHIND IN DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO REALLY HAVE TO PUT BOOTS TO THE GROUND TO
MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE IS HAPPENING IN THE
EAST TAMPA CRA.
9:19:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MS. HEWITT, JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU SAID
HOTEL HAYA.
IS THAT THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOTEL HAYA?
I JUST WANT HER TO SAY IT FOR THE RECORD.
9:19:20AM >> I APOLOGIZE.
IT'S ITEM NUMBER 13 ON THE AGENDA.
THE SANCHEZ Y HAYA BUILDING.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO CORRECT THAT.
9:19:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ABSOLUTELY.

NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:19:39AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS IVAN RIVERA.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AS YOU SERVE AS THE
CRA BOARD.
TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT LINE ITEM 13, SANCHEZ AND HAYA
PROJECT.
ACTUALLY, IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE WE'LL TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT WHAT THAT CAC RECOMMENDATION LOOKS LIKE.
WHEN THE CAC GOT TOGETHER, THEY LOOKED TO APPROVE A
TWO-YEAR, $250,000 SUBSIDY FOR THE PROJECT.
NOW, I SAT IN THE MEETING, THESE MEETINGS ARE RECORDED, THE
CAC MEETING, SO YOU CAN GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW SEVERAL CAC MEMBERS TALK ABOUT
IS WHETHER THIS PROJECT IS EVEN JUSTIFIED BECAUSE IT IS YBOR
CITY AND NOT EAST TAMPA.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SEVERAL CAC MEMBERS THAT HAVE THAT
PERSPECTIVE OF THE HISTORIC FABRIC OF THIS PROJECT BEING
YBOR CITY AND NOT EAST TAMPA, YOU START TO COME ACROSS A
DIALOGUE THAT REALLY STOPS CERTAIN PROJECTS, RIGHT?
WITH THAT PERSPECTIVE, NORTH YBOR RESIDENTS OR VM YBOR
RESIDENTS OR HEIGHTS RESIDENTS SHOULDN'T GET THE TREE
TRIMMING GRANT OR HOME RENOVATION GRANTS, RIGHT?
THAT'S NOT FAIR.
WE KNOW THAT.

NOW, I HAVE SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS, VICE
PRESIDENT, SECRETARIES.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND THROUGHOUT THOSE YEARS, THE NEWMAN FAMILY AND THIS
SPECIFIC PROJECT HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN COMMUNITY
INVOLVEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT.
ALAN, WHEN YOU HANDED ME YOUR BUSINESS CARD --
9:21:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SIR, DO NOT STATE OUR NAMES.
SPEAK TO THE BOARD.
9:21:17AM >> WHEN SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE APPROACHED ME FOR THEIR
ROLE TO BE SELECTED ON CITY COUNCIL, IT IS AT THE NEWMAN
FACTORY THAT YOU GUYS SHOWED UP AT.
DURING COVID WHEN EVERYTHING SHUT DOWN AND THE COMMUNITY HAD
NO PLACE TO MEET, THE NEWMAN FACTORY HAD A FACILITY LARGE
ENOUGH FOR ALL OF US TO SOCIAL DISTANCE AND CONTINUE TO KEEP
THAT COMMUNITY SPIRIT INVOLVED.
THIS FAMILY HAS DONE A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS IN PARTICULAR NEED THESE JOBS, NEED TO
BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE JOBS.
I KNOW MANY SENIORS THAT DON'T HAVE CARS THAT ARE LIVING ON
SOCIAL SECURITY.
WHAT I WANT TO ASK TODAY IS WHEN THIS LINE ITEM COMES UP,
THAT YOU PLEASE DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE
CAC RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THERE ARE EXCELLENT LEADERS ON
THE CAC.

I KNOW THEM PERSONALLY.
BUT ALSO A PORTION OF THE CAC THAT HAVE FOUGHT THIS IN
DISCRIMINATORY WAYS TO BE FRANK.
I ASK FOR YOU TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND PLEASE TAKE YOUR
TIME ON THAT LINE ITEM TODAY.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE SEE THIS
PROJECT.
AND IT WILL.
THE NEWMAN FAMILY IS GOING TO PUSH THIS THROUGH, BUT MUCH
THAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY AND A COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THEM IS
IMPORTANT NOW MORE THAN EVER.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
9:22:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:22:47AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'M JULIA FREEMAN, RESIDENT OF RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS.
I'M ALSO HERE THIS MORNING SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
PRESERVATION ROUNDTABLE WHICH IS DEDICATED TO CELEBRATING
AND PROTECTING THE ARCHITECTURAL HERITAGE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE BELIEVE THAT TAMPA'S RICH HISTORY CAN BEST BE ENJOYED IN
THE BUILDINGS, BOTH GRAND AND MODEST, WHICH GRACE OUR CITY,
AND THAT THE CRA HAS THE POWER TO INVEST IN THE RESTORATION
OF THE SANCHEZ Y HAYA BUILDING, GIVING IT NEW LIFE TO ENRICH
THE VITALITY AND ECONOMIC WELL-BEING OF THE VM NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE HAS BEEN SADLY NEGLECTED FOR

DECADES.
THE TRANSFORMATION OF THIS ABANDONED BUILDING WILL CHANGE AN
EYESORE INTO A PLACE OF HEALTHY ACTIVITY IN AN AREA WHICH
NEEDS NEW ENTERPRISE.
AS YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF THE CRA IS TO ADDRESS BLIGHT AND
INVEST IN PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BENEFIT THE CRA
AREA.
AND THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT TO THIS RESTORATION WILL BE
MORE THAN REPAID IN BOTH JOB CREATION AND DRAMATIC
IMPROVEMENT TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.
PLEASE SUPPORT THIS REQUEST BY THE NEWMAN FAMILY WHO HAVE
CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE TAMPA -- EAST TAMPA CRA
SINCE IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2004.
THANK YOU.
9:24:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:24:09AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
AS WE RECOGNIZE THE 60th ANNIVERSARY ON WHAT THE
HISTORIANS DESCRIBE AS BLOODY SUNDAY, THE SELMA MARCH, THE
MARCH FOR EQUALITY, VOTING RIGHTS, AFRICAN PEOPLE STILL FIND
THEMSELVES IN THE THROES OF THAT SAME VICIOUS CYCLE.
IN FACT, DR. KING SAYS THAT THE ARC OF THE MORAL UNIVERSE IS
LONG BUT IT BENDS TOWARDS JUSTICE.
I REALLY WISH DR. KING WOULD HAVE WENT ON AND LIVED AND BEEN

MORE CONCERNED ABOUT HIS OWN PERSONAL LIFE WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT THE MORAL CONSCIOUSNESS OF THIS COUNTRY.
IT DEEPLY HAS BEEN BROKEN.
ITEM NUMBER 15, I'M KIND OF AMAZED AS TO HOW VARIOUS CRAs
CAN ENTER INTO SOME TYPE OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT,
CITY AGREEMENT AND THEY CAN FIND THEMSELVES WORKING
TOGETHER.
BUT EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN REQUIRED TO DO THE HEAVY LIFT ALL BY
ITSELF.
TAKE ON PROJECTS LIKE HELPING TO BUILD A POLICE SUBSTATION.
HAVING TO THEN DEVELOP ITS OWN CLEAN TEAM.
AS IF IT IS A CITY INTO ITSELF.
THE REAL INTENT OF THE CRA THAT WAS WRITTEN AS FAR BACK AS
2004, WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO TOUCH THE REAL INTENT,
AND THAT WAS THE REHAB OF HOUSES AND TO MAKE SURE THINGS WAS
AFFORDABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVED IN THAT COMMUNITY.
SO IF THE RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT AND DESANTIS
MIGHT SHUT IT DOWN, THEN WHAT WOULD THE RESIDENTS IN EAST
TAMPA THAT HAVEN'T GOTTEN A DARN THING BE AFRAID OF?
ITEM NUMBER 13, HOW THEN, IN LIEU OF ALL THE THINGS THAT
RESIDENTS IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA NEED TO DO, THEN HOUSEGUEST
COMES IN AND SAY WE WANT THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THE PIE.
WE WANT $5 MILLION FOR WHAT WE WANT.
AND THE COMMUNITY HAS NOT GOTTEN WHAT IT NEED.
THE CRA HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION, AND THEY FELT IN THE BEST

INTEREST OF THE BODY THAT THEY BE GIVEN A $250,000 FOR THE
NEXT TWO YEARS.
AND IF THE PROJECT WAS DEEMED AMENABLE AFTER THAT, THEY CAN
COME BACK.
BUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING THIS MORNING IS TO SEE
HOW WELL YOU RESPECT THE BODY OF THE CRA AND THE CAC,
VOLUNTEERS THAT COME EVERY MONTH TO BRING THE ISSUES FORWARD
THAT THE COMMUNITY WANT AND ARE YOU GOING TO LISTEN TO THE
WAYS IN WHICH THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED THEMSELVES AROUND
THIS PROJECT.
9:27:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:27:17AM >> GOOD MORNING.
VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON AND COLLEGE HILL.
NUMBER FOUR ABOUT THE CRA AND THE HOMEOWNERS, I HAD A GOOD
IDEA ABOUT HOW WE COULD SPEND THE MONEY THAT'S JUST BEEN
SITTING THERE.
IF I'D BEEN IN EAST TAMPA FOR OVER 20 YEARS, I HAVE EQUITY
INTO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WHEN YOU ALL GIVE ME THE $50,000 TO FIX MY HOUSE, I
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GET A SEVEN-YEAR LIEN ON MY HOUSE.
MAYBE MY LIEN CAN BE ONE YEAR BECAUSE I HAVE EQUITY IN THE
COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.
GIVE THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THE MONEY IN EAST TAMPA TO FIX THE

HOUSE UP, BUT DON'T PUT A SEVEN-YEAR LIEN ON IT.
I TRY TO GO UP OVER THAT.
BASE IT ON HOW LONG THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STAYING THERE.
BECAUSE IF YOU CAN HELP THE PEOPLE AND THEY CAN BUILD UP
THEIR HOUSE, YOU UP LIFT THEIR LIFE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THE CRA WAS ABOUT, UPLIFTING
PEOPLE ECONOMICALLY THAT WERE DISADVANTAGED FOR WHATEVER
REASON IT IS.
AND TO NUMBER 13, THE OLD -- WHY DO EAST TAMPA CRA HAVE TO
FUND THAT?
WHY CAN'T THEY DO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT LIKE THEY ARE
DOING WITH THE GASWORX AND YBOR CITY.
WHY DO EAST TAMPA CRA ALWAYS HAVE TO BE USED LIKE A SLUSH
FUND?
AND ONE WAY HOW PEOPLE COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, THEY ARE
SEEING TWO BLACK FACES, LIKE WE STUPID AND THAT IS AN INSULT
TO ME.
THEN THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY ECONOMICALLY.
HOW?
SHOW ME THE NUMBERS.
I KNOW WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING TAMPA WATER WORKS, THIS PAPER
HERE SAY THE ECONOMIC IMPACT EQUALS 520 MILLION.
NOW, WHEN WE GIVE OUR MONEY, WHAT KIND OF RETURN ARE WE
GOING TO GET BACK ON THAT?
IT'S UNKNOWN.

EVERYBODY SAY ECONOMICALLY, YEAH, YOU CAN HIRE TEN PEOPLE
FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT MONEY WOULD BE BETTER SPENT ON BRINGING A MANUFACTURING
PLANT TO EAST TAMPA SO WE CAN HAVE OUR OWN ECONOMIC ENGINE
CREATING JOBS FOR THE PEOPLE.
AND WE ARE SO SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE ACTING LIKE OUR IQ IS
NEGATIVE 50.
DON'T TELL US WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO.
ASK US WHAT WE WANT.
WE ARE THE ONES WHO HELD THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN WHEN PEOPLE
WAS SCARED TO DRIVE DOWN LATE.
NOW, SINCE WE GOT NEWCOMERS IN THERE, THE OLD PEOPLE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD ARE BEING OVERLOOKED AND DISRESPECTED.
9:30:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
KELLA McCASKILL, LIFELONG RESIDENT HERE IN TAMPA,
ADVOCATING IN EAST TAMPA.
2004, CRAs WERE GIVEN MARCHING ORDERS THROUGH THE BIBLE
THAT GOVERNS WHAT HAPPENS IN THEIR AREA.
GENOCIDE, WINNING OFF A 2004 CRP.
EAST TAMPA, NOT SO MUCH.
NEVERTHELESS, I CAME BEFORE YOU ALL OF 2022, BEGGING YOU
ALMOST, TO GRANT A PREDEVELOPMENT GRANT TO HELP LANDOWNERS,
ACCORDING TO THE CRP, THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID GO TO THE
EXISTING LANDOWNERS AND PROVIDE THEM OPPORTUNITY TO
ELIMINATE SOME OF THE BLIGHT.

AUGUST 18, 2022, YOU, THIS BODY APPROVED THAT SAID GRANT AND
IT DIDN'T GET RELEASED OFFICIALLY UNTIL NOW, 2024 --
RELEASED 2024, 2025 AND NOW THE CRA IS UNDER FIRE.
POSSIBLE IT MAY NOT EXIST, AND YET WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY
OPPORTUNITIES PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN.
SO MOVING FORWARD IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME COLLABORATIVE
EFFORTS.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TO GET VERY CREATIVE, SIMILAR TO WHAT
YOU'RE GOING TO DO PROBABLY, I THINK LINE ITEM 15, VERY
CREATIVE ON HOW YOU GET THIS MONEY SPENT GOING FORWARD
BEFORE THE OCTOBER 2025 DEADLINE WHICH WILL BE CHALLENGING
BECAUSE THE STAFF IS INEXPERIENCED, MANY OF THEM NEW TO THE
STAFF.
A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE FACING ARE CHALLENGES.
I'M ASKING TO YOU GET CREATIVE.
GET OUT OF THE BOX ON WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING BECAUSE WE
CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE THE MONEY IN AN AREA UNDERSERVED,
OVERLOOKED, IGNORED, DOWN RIGHT VIOLATED THE CRP BECAUSE
NONE OF WHAT HAPPENED.
I'LL SAVE SOME OF THE PASSION AND FRUSTRATION THAT I HAVE IN
THAT, IGNORING THAT GROUP.
I REALIZE IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT.
MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE ON BOARD.

I HAVE A THANK-YOU CARD FOR ABBYE FEELEY BECAUSE OVER THE
TIME I REALIZED SHE'S NEW TO THE ROLE.
GETTING HER TO OPERATE IN NEW ROLE, OLD ROLE.
SHE TOOK A LOT OF TIME WITH US.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HER TIME.
SHE'S WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, WORK WITH YOU ALL, WORK
WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND THANK HER FOR HER TIME.
THANK THIS CHAIR.
WE DON'T SEE OUR REPRESENTATION FROM EAST TAMPA.
TWO WEEKS AGO, THIS CHAIR SENT REPRESENTATION FROM HER
OFFICE AND SUPPORTED HOUSING EDUCATION.
I DO SEE THERE ARE SOME EFFORTS TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY HERE
IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT.
AGAIN, I'LL ASK YOU ALL TO GET OUT OF THE BOX.
BE VERY CREATIVE ON WHAT COMES NEXT AS IT RELATES TO
DEVELOPMENT IN EAST TAMPA.
WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS.
I KNOW YOU KNOW THEY ARE COMING.
HOPEFULLY YOU PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS AREA
AND WE GET SMART ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT TO COME BECAUSE IT
WAS IGNORED AND OVERLOOKED.
LOOK AT BOTH CRPs, BOTH WRITTEN MAY 2004.
ONE IS WINNING.
ONE IS NEARLY THE SAME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:33:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE, IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE COME
STAND TO THE SIDE NOW.
9:33:26AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:33:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GOOD MORNING.
9:33:28AM >> MY NAME IS FRANK WILLIAMS, PASTOR OF PARADISE MISSIONARY
BAPTIST CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, IT'S SO SAD THEY HAVE TO COME UP AND HOLLER WITH
YOU ALL WEEK AFTER WEEK AND NEVER GET NOTHING DONE.
YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU CALL RETENTION
PONDS.
YOU ALL NEED TO FILL THOSE THINGS IN AND GIVE THEM TO THE
BLACK FOLKS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MOTHER AND FATHER RAISED,
EAST TAMPA.
YOU GOT ALL THEM PONDS, YOU CALL RETENTION.
WHEN I ASK YOU WHAT RETENTION POND, YOU TELL ME NOTHING AND
STILL DON'T TELL ME NOTHING.
BECAUSE THE IDEA, WHAT'S GOING ON, WE WANT TO KEEP IT
SEPARATED, WHITES FROM BLACKS AND MEXICANS.
THEY TREAT US LIKE WE LESS THAN A DOLLAR.
GOT TO UNDERSTAND WE WERE CREATED BY THE SAME GOD YOU WERE
CREATED.
WHETHER WHITE OR BLACK, DON'T MAKE NO DIFFERENCE.
WE NEED TO BE TREATED LIKE PEOPLE.

JUST LIKE YOU ALL TREATED.
YOU ALL GAVE YOURSELF A RAISE THE OTHER MONTH, 50%.
WHY DON'T YOU HELP US OUT?
NOBODY SEEM TO CARE.
NOBODY SEEM TO GIVE A DAMN.
I HAD A LADY COME FROM OUT OF HERE.
I DON'T WANT TO CALL HER BY NAME BECAUSE I'M FILING A
COMPLAINT.
SHE CAME TO MY HOUSE, THREE THIEVES OVER THERE.
THEY WERE STEALING EVERYTHING THEY COULD.
OUT OF MY HOUSE.
SHE WAS GOING INTO MY BANK ACCOUNT.
SHE CALLED MY DAUGHTER AND TOLD HER.
BUT NOW I GOT MY SON WORKING AND HE HELPING ME OUT A LOT.
THAT'S WHY I TOLD HER LAST WEEK, I NEED TO SPEAK -- BUT SHE
DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK TO ME.
I'LL GET IT OUT AND TELL EVERYBODY EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF
PEOPLE SENT TO REPRESENT AND IT'S NOT RIGHT.
THEY REPRESENT YOU ALL AND THEY ARE THIEVES, LIARS, CRACK
HEADS AND ALL THEM KIND OF PEOPLE.
YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND, SEND SOMEBODY DOWN TO REPRESENT YOU,
SEND SOMEBODY DECENT AND GOT GOOD SENSE AND KNOW HOW TO
SPEAK TO PEOPLE.
9:36:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, PASTOR WILLIAMS.
YOUR TIME IS UP.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:36:35AM >> I GET ALL MY HELP --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:36:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, MR. WILLIAMS.
9:36:39AM >> I GET ALL MY HELP NOT FROM HERE, BUT LADY COME WAY FROM
CALIFORNIA TO HELP ME OUT.
AND THAT'S SAD.
9:36:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MS. JOHNSON, PLEASE SEE IF THERE IS
ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO FOR PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:37:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
MARCUS DAVIS.
I WORK WITH BLUE SKY COMMUNITIES.
WE ARE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER LOCATED IN
ST. PETERSBURG, FLORIDA.
WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS.
COUPLE OF UPDATES ABOUT THE ADDERLEY.
WE HAD A RIBBON CUTTING IN NOVEMBER.
WE ARE JUST ABOUT ALL LEASED UP AND VERY ACTIVE IN THE
COMMUNITY, TRYING TO HOPEFULLY DO ANOTHER PHASE OF A HUNDRED
UNITS DEDICATED TO THE ELDERLY.
WE WELCOME YOU GUYS TO COME OUT TO SITE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE TOURS TO ANY OF THE BOARD OR ANY OF THE
STAFF.

AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
9:37:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY.
THAT'S THE FINAL SPEAKER.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR STAFF REPORTS.
I'M SORRY.
WHO IS GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR CAC CENTRAL PARK.
9:37:56AM >>COURTNEY ORR:
GOOD MORNING.
COURTNEY ORR, URBAN CORE DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
I'M PROUD TO INTRODUCE THOMAS MURPHY WHO HAS BEEN A LONGTIME
ADVOCATE FOR THE ENHANCEMENTS OF CENTRAL PARK.
HE IS THE CURRENT CAC CHAIR.
9:38:14AM >> THOMAS MURPHY, CENTRAL PARK CAC CHAIR.
GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD.
I'M HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON SOME OF THE ONGOING IN THE CENTRAL
PARK BOUNDARIES.
SINCE THE INCEPTION OF OUR CAC, MOST OF THE AREA COMPRISED
OF VACANT LAND, PRIMARILY THE FORMER CENTRAL PARK HOUSING
PROJECT.
NOW WE HAVE POPULAR BUSINESSES WITH SEVERAL OPENINGS TO LOOK
FORWARD TO.
SOME OF THE NEW BUSINESSES COMING ARE A MEDICAL OFFICE
BUILDING, BOUTIQUE GROCER, WHICH HAS BEEN A LONG TIME
STANDING, CONSIDERING THAT WAS A FOOD DESERT FOR A LONG
TIME.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOTEL, AND ADDITIONAL RETAIL SPACE.

SLATED TO OPEN IN 2026 IS THE TAMPA BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM,
WHICH IS GOING TO BE IN THE FORMER ST. JAMES CHURCH.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE ONLY BUILDING LEFT STANDING AFTER THE
CENTRAL PARK PROJECTS WERE DEMOLISHED.
I KNOW THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY GETTING
THAT BUILDING UP TO PAR.
THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY EXCITING.
THE MUSEUM WILL OFFER A BLACK HISTORY BOOK CLUB,
ENTERTAINMENT, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING AND BLACK HISTORY
WALKING TOURS.
SOME OF THE EXISTING BUSINESSES, I WENT DOWN AND TOOK SOME
PICTURES FOR YOU ALL.
MEACHAM FARMS.
NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE GONE DOWN TO MEACHAM FARMS BUT THEY ARE
EXPANDING QUICKLY.
THEY SOURCE FROM SMALL BUSINESSES MAKING PRODUCTS EASILY
ACCESSIBLE TO TAMPA RESIDENTS.
THEIR FIELDS PRODUCE HUNDREDS OF POUNDS OF PRODUCE EVERY
MONTH.
THEY HOST EDUCATIONAL FIELD TRIPS REGULARLY THROUGHOUT THE
SCHOOL YEAR WHERE THEY TEACH STUDENTS ABOUT WHERE THEIR FOOD
COMES FROM.
ALSO A SNAP AND EBT 50% OFF PROGRAM THROUGH FRESH ACCESS
BUCKS, FEEDING FLORIDA THAT GIVES SNAP RECIPIENTS SEVERAL
HUNDRED DOLLARS OF FREE FLORIDA PRODUCE EVERY MONTH.

THEIR BEES ARE PRODUCING A LOT OF HONEY THAT THEY SELL.
AND THERE ARE BEE TENDING WORKSHOPS REGULARLY.
THEY HAVE NEW CHICKS DOWN HERE ON THE FARM.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CRA BOUNDARIES ARE THE YBOR
YOGA STUDIO, DOJO BREAD COMPANY, SAUNDERS LIBRARY AND URBAN
LOCKS AT TAMPA PARK, FORMER KNOWN AS TAMPA PARK PLAZA.
FRESH BREAD AND COFFEE.
THE LIBRARY IS ONE OF TWO AFRICAN AMERICAN RESEARCH
LIBRARIES IN THE STATE.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT IN OUR CITY AND
NEIGHBORHOOD.
FUR KIDS.
NO KIDS FOR ME.
JUST PETS.
FUR KIDS IS A GOOD ONE.
LOCALLY OWNED PET DAY CARE, KENNEL FREE BOARDING AND DAYTIME
PLAY AND TRAIN CENTER THAT RECENTLY OPENED ON NEBRASKA
WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES AS WELL.
TAMPA PARK PLAZA HAS BEEN RENAMED AS URBAN LOCKS AT TAMPA
PARK.
TRUE VEGAN CREAMERY.
LOCALLY OWNED AND DAIRY FREE DESSERTS ON THE GO.
THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE VACANT
COMMERCIAL SPACE.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A BUILDING VACANT A LONG TIME THAT

THEY ARE GIVING A FACE-LIFT TO.
A LOT OF THEM WILL BE IN THE ENCORE SECTION.
APPROXIMATELY 3,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE AVAILABLE
FOR BUILD-OUT.
FUTURE TENANT CAN DESIGN THE SPACE TO FIT THEIR NEEDS.
TRIO APPROXIMATELY 3,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE
AVAILABLE FOR BUILD-OUT.
ACROSS FROM PERRY HARVEY PARK AND OUTDOOR SEATING AREA GREAT
FOR A RESTAURANT.
TEMPO AT ENCORE, THIS IS THE ONE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET
HAS ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE.
HAS WITHIN IT 3,000 SQUARE FOOT PERFORMANCE SPACE DESIGNATED
FOR A PERFORMING ARTS THEATER.
WITHIN THE THEATER SPACE IS A MEZZANINE.
REQUESTING THAT THE ADJACENT SPACE BE A RESTAURANT.
LASTLY, I'LL SHOW THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ON NUCCIO
PARKWAY ACROSS FROM WHERE THE TAMPA PARK APARTMENTS WERE.
THERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE NEW SPACE AVAILABLE AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE REGARDING CENTRAL PARK
OR THE BOUNDARIES OR ANYTHING GOING ON?
9:42:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANY COMMENTS?
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:42:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THIS WAS A NICE UPDATE.
IT'S NICE TO SEE THE FOCUS ON BUSINESSES.

WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ALL -- DO YOU HAVE A STRATEGY FOR
TRYING TO PULL BUSINESSES IN?
9:42:43AM >> SO A LOT OF THE SPACES HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR A LONG
TIME.
THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS KIND OF SPECIFIC GUIDELINES ON
WHAT CAN GO IN THOSE SPACES.
THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING WITH THE THEATER SPACE, THAT'S KIND
OF THE CAVEAT WHERE THEY REALLY NEED TO HAVE THAT PERFORMING
ARTS THEATER IN THERE, KIND OF LIKE A STAGEWORKS.
WE TALKED WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AT OUR MEETINGS PLENTY
OF TIMES TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING AS FAR AS GETTING
BUSINESSES IN THERE, NEW BUILDINGS BUILT AND THESE HAVEN'T
BEEN FILLED YET.
I KNOW THEY HAVE A COMMERCIAL AGENT THEY WORK WITH.
MET THEM.
TOURED THE SPACE.
NOT SURE WHAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS FOR MARKETING FOR
THOSE SPACES.
9:43:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.
A LOT OF TIMES WE GET THESE TYPE OF UPDATES AND IT IS A
REPEAT OF THINGS, SELF-EVIDENT.
THIS WAS REALLY KIND OF FILLING IN THE GAPS THAT ARE MAYBE
NOT SO SELF-EVIDENT.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT
OF THE CRA TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD.

THANK YOU.
9:43:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST A COUPLE OF REMARKS FROM ME.
THE THEATER SPACE, I KNOW THEY HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF
RFPs THEY HAVE REJECTED.
HOPEFULLY YOU ALL CAN WORK WITH THEM TO LOOK AT SOME
REVISION OF THAT SO THEY CAN GET A WIN AND GET SOMEONE IN
THERE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY RECEIVED A VERY GOOD PROPOSAL THAT
THEY DID NOT ACCEPT.
ALSO, THE JOHNSON HOUSES, YOU HAVE NOT MENTIONED THAT.
WE PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY OVER A YEAR AGO.
THAT UPDATE SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO US RIGHT NOW.
I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT
THAT.
MAYBE THAT'S ON US.
IS IT WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY?
WE PURCHASED IT AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS GOING TO
REDEVELOP IT?
9:44:25AM >> WE TALKED TO DAVID HOLLIS ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THEY HAD TO PLAY AROUND WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS BASED
OFF OF THE CONDITION OF THE HOMES.
THEY TOYED AROUND WITH HAVING IT BE COMMERCIAL SPACE AND
RESIDENTIAL.
I BELIEVE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO FOR ONE OF THE
PROPERTIES IS GOING TO HAVE LIKE A LOCAL COFFEE SHOP OR
MEETING AREA FOR ONE OF THEM.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE
TO DO A BUILD-OUT ALONG THAT SAME SECTION OF THE PROPERTY TO
HAVE SIMILAR STYLE HOMES IN THERE TO MAKE IT LOOK NOT JUST
LIKE TWO HOUSES.
I THINK THEY DID A LAND SWAP.
THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.
THE UPDATE IS THERE'S NO UPDATE.
BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AND GETTING THE PLANS
TOGETHER FOR DOING WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO END UP USING THE
HOMES FOR.
I ASK EVERY MEETING TOO.
9:45:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WELL, AGAIN, THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU
KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY.
FOR ME AS THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE THAT IS ACTUALLY
BECOMING UNACCEPTABLE, A TIMELINE AND PLAN VERY SPECIFIC IS
SOMETHING YOU ALL SHOULD BE REQUESTING.
I'M ASKING THAT OF THE MANAGER AS WELL.
MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE DETAILED COMMUNICATION REGARDING A
TIMELINE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SITTING ON IT OVER A YEAR.
9:45:35AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
9:45:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANYONE ELSE?
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:45:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU RAISED A GOOD POINT.
I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE FROM THE HOUSING
AUTHORITY ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE AS FAR AS STATUS ON A LOT OF

PROJECTS.
WE'RE INVESTING THAT AND TRYING TO BALANCE OUT THE NEEDS.
I'D LIKE TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT FROM THEM.
9:45:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT'S INTERESTING.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY.
WE AS A BOARD AND AS A COUNCIL SHOULD, WHEN WE'RE APPROVING
THINGS, WE SHOULD GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION REGARDING
HOW LONG THINGS ARE GOING TO TAKE BECAUSE EVEN TODAY WITH
THE MENTION OF THE GATOR BUILDING IN PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'VE
BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND IT DOES TAKE
TIME.
BUT WHERE WE'RE GOING AND HOW WE GET THERE SHOULD BE
SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD EXPECT TO HEAR FROM THOSE
PRESENTING TO US.
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATES.
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
9:46:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I WANTED TO REMARK THAT YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY
NOT JUST VERY WELL PREPARED BUT INVESTED IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
YOU DON'T GET PAID MUCH TO DO THIS.
YOU DON'T GET PAID ANYTHING, RIGHT?
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DO
AND EVERYBODY IN THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENT OUR CRAs
DO BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT.

JUST SAYING THAT.
I KNOW ALL OF US APPRECIATE THAT.
9:46:55AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:46:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ABSOLUTELY, MR. MURPHY, AGREED.
HOPEFULLY YOU DIDN'T TAKE THAT ANY OTHER WAY ON THE
DIRECTION FOR THE THINGS THAT SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
I APPRECIATE YOU.
INTERIM DIRECTOR CRA MR. McCRAY.
9:47:14AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
JUST COMING BACK WITH THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
THANK YOU, MR. MURPHY, FOR HIS PRESENTATION.
INCLUDED IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT WAS THE TRADITIONAL
TRACKER FOR OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS AND ALSO THERE WAS COMMENT
LAST MONTH RELATED TO RECEIVING INFORMATION ON THE
COMMERCIAL GRANTS AND UPDATES THAT WAS ALSO INCLUDED.
THAT WAS A DOCUMENT WE DID HAVE INTERNALLY AND SHARING WITH
OUR CACs BUT WE WILL MONTHLY PROVIDE THAT TO THE BOARD AS
WELL FOR YOUR REVIEW AND EDIFICATION.
THE OTHER ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE DID CONDUCT
OUR ANNUAL ORIENTATION FOR CAC MEMBERS.
WE HAD SEVERAL NEW MEMBERS OF OUR CACs THAT YOU ALL
APPOINTED RECENTLY AS WELL AS SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN ON
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
THE INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED.
OUR NEW ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY SHEPHARD, SPOKE AT LENGTH ABOUT

SUNSHINE AND CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, AND WE DID HAVE SEVERAL
QUESTIONS DURING THE SESSION AND I ALSO RECEIVED QUESTIONS
FROM SOME OF THE FOLKS AFTER THE SESSION ON MONDAY.
I THINK IT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL TO JUST COVER SOME OF THE CRA
101 FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM OR PHRASE AND TO DISSEMINATE
THAT INFORMATION TO THE CAC MEMBERS MOVING FORWARD.
I WILL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:48:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:48:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT MAYBE WE OFFER THAT
CLASS TWO OR THREE TIMES, BUT WE MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT
WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF BEING APPOINTED THAT YOU NEED TO ATTEND
ONE OR AT LEAST HAVE A VIDEO AND SOMEHOW SHOW THAT YOU
WATCHED THE VIDEO.
I THINK THAT IS VERY CRITICAL.
WE HAVE TO TAKE A YEARLY REFRESHER OF THAT INFORMATION OF
SUNSHINE AND ALL OF THAT, IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
IT IS A FOUR-HOUR COURSE WE HAVE TO DO EVERY YEAR.
I REALLY THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD.
I FORGOT TO MENTION IT TO YOU DURING OUR BRIEFING.
I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PROJECT
TRACKER OR THE INQUIRY TRACKER.
IT WAS REALLY VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE
INQUIRED IN THE DIFFERENT CRA AREAS.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.
THE PUBLIC CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
IT'S NEAT TO SEE WHERE THINGS ARE GOING, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD
AN INQUIRY.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
IT TELLS ME THAT INFORMATION IS GETTING OUT INTO THE
COMMUNITY, SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR A
GOOD JOB THERE.
9:49:58AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE THAT.
9:50:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
THANK YOU, MR. McCRAY.
9:50:04AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NEXT I WILL CALL UP MS. ORR TO DISCUSS THE
CRA GREENSPACE ACQUISITION PLAN.
9:50:12AM >>COURTNEY ORR:
GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
COURTNEY ORR, CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE ON THE GREENSPACE LAND ACQUISITION
REQUEST THAT WAS MADE.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO ANALYZE THEIR
CITYWIDE PARK ASSESSMENT AS WELL AS PRESENTED A VISUAL TO
YOU THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOUR AIDES YESTERDAY MORNING THAT
SHOWS WHERE THE CITY -- THE CRA BOUNDARIES ARE AND WHERE THE
CITY PARKS ARE AND THE COUNTY PARKS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S JUST TO VISUALLY HELP US IDENTIFY WHERE THE GAPS
ARE AND WHERE PARKS COULD BE NEEDED.

AFTER WORKING WITH PARKS AND DETERMINING POTENTIAL
OPPORTUNITIES, WE'LL WORK WITH THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT TO
FIND OUT ABOUT LAND ACQUISITION, IF THERE ARE PARCELS
AVAILABLE.
BUT ALSO KEEPING IN MIND WHAT ARE THOSE ADJOINING USES NEXT
TO THOSE PARCELS SO WE'RE NOT DISRUPTING ANYTHING, BUT THE
BALL IS ROLLING AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THAT
THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD THIS GREENSPACE ACQUISITION PLAN.
9:51:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:51:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WAS MY MOTION, I APPRECIATE YOUR
WRITTEN REPORT.
THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THAT.
OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF THAT INTENT WAS THE CONCRETE
JUNGLE THAT WE KNOW OF CHANNELSIDE.
9:51:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MS. ORR, MY ONE PARTICULAR COMMENT,
BECAUSE IT IS SO LARGE, IF WE COULD GET A PROFESSIONAL MAP,
LIKE THE ARCHITECTURE BLUEPRINT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY NICE.
INSTEAD OF MOVING YOUR SCREEN AROUND ON THE MONITOR, IT'S A
LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING.
HOLISTIC APPROACH FOR ALL OF US THAT MAYBE COULD BE HOUSING
OR OFFICE, BUT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO GET THAT PRINTED, THAT
WOULD BE REALLY GREAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:51:59AM >>COURTNEY ORR:
YOU'RE WELCOME.
9:52:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
LET'S KEEP THIS PARTY -- I MEAN CRA MEETING GOING.
9:52:08AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
THE NEXT ITEM IS RELATED TO CRA DISASTER FUNDING.
I BELIEVE A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
I THINK SOME OF THAT MAY HAVE BEEN REMEDIED WITH THE
ALLOCATION OF FUNDING FOR OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY A FEW
WEEKS AGO OR LAST MONTH WHEN YOU-ALL HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
AS A CRA, WE BROUGHT FORWARD WAIVERS TO YOU ALL FOR BUSINESS
OWNERS THAT ARE -- HAVE NOT, MAYBE NOT HAVE SUBMITTED AN
APPLICATION FORMALLY YET, BUT WE HAVE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ALL
APPROVED LAST YEAR THAT PRECLUDES THEM FROM PULLING PERMITS
PRIOR TO BEING APPROVED FOR A SPECIFIC GRANT.
YOU ALL HAVE GRANTED THEM A WAIVER TO ALLOW THEM TO FIX A
ROOF OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS TO DO THAT
AS WELL.
ON THE HOUSING SIDE, I'M PRETTY SURE AS WE HAVE RELEASED THE
APPLICATIONS LAST YEAR RELATED TO THE REHAB PROGRAM AND YOU
APPROVED IN JANUARY TO BE PUT IN PLACE ACROSS ALL THE
CRAs, I'M ALMOST CERTAIN THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE
APPLIED HAVE SUFFERED SOME STORM DAMAGE DURING THE STORM
SEASON BACK IN OCTOBER AND SEPTEMBER.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH ANOTHER CITY DEPARTMENT TO APPLY
FOR A GRANT AND FOR TREE TRIMMING SERVICES IN POST-DISASTER

STORM.
THAT REQUEST WILL BE FOR $250,000 WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S
GOING ON IN THE LEGISLATURE AND FEDERALLY, I'M NOT EXACTLY
SURE HOW THAT WILL FALL, BUT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THE APPLICATION TO PROCURE FUNDS AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL
KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED THAT THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE I KNOW WE
RECEIVED SEVERAL CALLS.
MS. PARKS AND HER TEAM ON THE HOUSING SIDE RELATED TO TREE
TRIMMING SERVICES AFTER THE STORMS.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY EITHER DOING AND WILL
BE DOING TO ASSIST RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CRA BOUNDARIES.
9:54:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
9:54:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. McCRAY.
ONE THING, IT'S ALWAYS HARD TO GET A BALANCE ON THIS WHICH
IS OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THE FLOODING THAT HAPPENED, FOR
EXAMPLE, WAS IN NON-CRA AREAS, SOUTH TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, AND
EVERYTHING.
BUT ALSO MAYBE LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO MAYBE COULDN'T AFFORD
TO LIVE IN THEIR HOMES ANYMORE AND WE HAVE 30% OF OUR CRA
FUNDS GOING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT'S A BALANCE.
ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS
SO IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO INVEST AND CONTINUE TO INVEST

IN POST-STORM ASSISTANCE FOR PEOPLE IN HOUSING IS TO KEEP
PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE
ECONOMIC CHARACTER OF A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, A LOT OF
WORKING CLASS NEIGHBORHOODS CHANGE.
BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO OFTEN RENT, FOR EXAMPLE, OR MAYBE PEOPLE
IN APARTMENTS, TIMBERFALLS OFF 113th STREET, TO MAKE
PEOPLE AWARE OF CRA PROGRAMS FROM THAT 30% WHO MAYBE CAN'T
AFFORD TO STAY OR COULDN'T STAY, SOME OF THAT I GUESS IS
BEYOND US IN THE SENSE THEY MOVED IF THEY ALREADY HAD TO
MOVE BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED IN OCTOBER.
IN OTHER WORDS, TO THE EXTENT IT CAN BE DONE, LETTING PEOPLE
KNOW OF THE PROGRAMS POTENTIALLY.
I CAN GET WITH YOU OFF-LINE FOR SOME OF THESE APARTMENTS AND
EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR MEMO.
IT WAS REALLY GOOD AS ALWAYS.
YOU ALWAYS DO GREAT WORK.
THANK YOU, SIR.
YOU'RE THE BEST.
9:55:30AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THANK YOU.
9:55:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANYONE ELSE?
WELCOME BACK.
9:55:41AM >>COURTNEY ORR:
COURTNEY ORR, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE
URBAN CORE.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE U.S. TEAM WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON

UPDATING THE CENTRAL PARK AND THE TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT
CRPs.
THEY HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
MONTHS AND HAVE TAKEN THAT IN TO DEVELOP THE COMPONENTS OF
THE UPDATED CRP.
THEY ARE GOING TO DESCRIBE THOSE COMPONENTS TO YOU.
WE WANTED THIS PRESENTATION TO OCCUR PRIOR TO REQUESTING
ADOPTION OF THE UPDATED CRP SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW,
ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN SOMETIME IN PROBABLY APRIL OR MAY
TIME FRAME WE WOULD REQUEST ADOPTION OF THE UPDATES.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE PROFESSOR TRENT GREEN WHO WILL
INTRODUCE HIS TEAM GIVING THE PRESENTATION TODAY.
WE'LL RUN THESE BACK TO BACK, CENTRAL PARK AND TAMPA
HEIGHTS.
9:56:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ABSOLUTELY.
9:56:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, CRA BOARD MEMBERS, TRENT
GREEN, PROFESSOR OF ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN DESIGN UP AT USF.
I HAVE WITH ME TODAY TWO OF MY RESEARCH ASSISTANTS WHO ARE
WORKING ON BOTH OF THE CRA PLAN UPDATES.
TWO OF THE LAST REMAIN OF SIX.
9:57:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GOOD MORNING, LADIES.
9:57:10AM >> I SEE CENTRAL PARK IS UP, SO WE'LL START WITH THAT ONE.
AS YOU KNOW, THESE UPDATED ARE THE FIRST UPDATES THAT HAVE
BEEN DONE SINCE BOTH OF THESE CRAs WERE ESTABLISHED, BOTH
OF WHICH ARE THE SMALLEST CRAs IN THE CITY.

CENTRAL PARK CRA -- HERE ARE THE MAPS TO SHOW YOU THE
BOUNDARIES.
WHICH HAVE NOT CHANGED, OF COURSE.
AND THEN THE PURPOSE OF THE CRA WAS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE
SINCE THE PLAN WAS INITIALLY ADOPTED IN 2006, UPDATE THE CRA
PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS, REQUIRED BY CHAPTER 163 OF PART 3 OF
THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
AND THEN TO KEEP THE CENTRAL PARK CRA PLAN UP TO DATE,
CURRENT AND RELEVANT TO THE EVOLVING ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL
CONDITIONS AND AS PART OF THE CITY.
THE SCOPE, OF COURSE, IS TO PROVIDE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE
PAST REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES, PROVIDE AN UPDATE OF THE
CURRENT REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES AND THEN IDENTIFY FUTURE
REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT STILL EXIST WITHIN THE
CENTRAL PARK CRA BOUNDARIES.
9:58:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
THE CENTRAL PARK CRA PLAN IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER
163, PART 3 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
TAMPA'S IMAGINE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND PLANNING
INITIATIVES PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY WAS A TIERED APPROACH,
WHICH INVOLVED COMMUNICATION AND ATTENDANCE WITH CAC MEMBERS
AND MEET-INS AS WELL AS DELIBERATIONS AND WORKSHOPS.
CITY OF TAMPA DEPARTMENT CONSULTATIONS AS WELL AS
STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS AND COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS IN PERSON AND

ONLINE SURVEYS.
9:59:43AM >> SO THESE TWO MAPS GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE PHYSICAL
CONDITIONS IN THE CENTRAL PARK CRA, BACK IN 2003, PRIOR TO
THE ESTABLISHMENT OR ADOPTION, RATHER, OF THE PLAN.
AND WHAT IT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
THIS IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS DATED BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT MORE
CONSTRUCTION ALONG THE EASTERN EDGE WITH THE GASWORX
DEVELOPMENT.
THIS MATRIX SORT OF SHOWS THE COMPLETED REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECTS IN THE CENTRAL PARK CRA SINCE INCEPTION.
WE'VE CATEGORIZED THESE IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT,
INSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, BOTH INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AS
WELL AS OPEN SPACE PROJECTS AND AMENITIES.
THIS IMAGE SORT OF SHOWS WHERE THE REMAINING REDEVELOPMENT
OPPORTUNITIES ACTUALLY ARE IN THE CENTRAL PARK CRA.
AGAIN, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DATED BECAUSE THERE IS
CONSTRUCTION ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE ENCORE DEVELOPMENT
AS WELL AS FURTHER SOUTH -- SECOND PHASE OF THE GASWORX
PROJECT BUT IT'S WELL UNDERWAY.
UP TO THE NORTH, THAT TAN AREA, THAT IS THE REMAINDER OF THE
CENTRAL PARK APARTMENTS.
AND THEN FURTHER NORTH UP INTO THAT TRIANGULAR AREA NEXT TO
THE INTERSTATE, THOSE ARE VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED
PROPERTIES, SEVERAL OF WHICH WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS
OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY ALONG THAT

WESTERN EDGE OF NORTH NEBRASKA, WHICH IS WHAT MR. MURPHY
REFERRED TO A MOMENT AGO.
THIS JUST SORT OF SHOWS YOU AGAIN WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING WITH
THE ENCORE DEVELOPMENT AND THE NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT MOST
-- WELL, PARCEL 8, PARCEL 10, PARCEL 8 HAS BEEN BUILT ON.
PARCEL 12 IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND HOPEFULLY PARCEL 10 WILL
BE UNDERWAY SOON.
AND THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING SOMETHING RIGHT AT THE CORNER
OF CASS AND NEBRASKA ON PARCEL 13.
SO THESE IMAGES ALSO SHOW, AGAIN, SORT OF THE SCALE AND THE
MASSING THAT'S BEING ENVISIONED FOR THE BUILD-OUT OF THIS
AREA.
THESE ARE WHAT SOME OF THE BUILDINGS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
I BELIEVE THE GASWORX CONDOMINIUMS ARE COMPLETED AT THIS
POINT.
THIS MATRIX ON THE LEFT SORT OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE
RANGE OF DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES THAT COULD BE BUILT IN THE
CENTRAL PARK CRA ON THE REMAINING VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED
PROPERTY.
AND THESE ARE SOME SAMPLE IMAGES THAT GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF
THE SCALE OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SORT OF INCLUDE THIS IMAGE TO
GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE OVERALL MASSING THAT'S LIKELY TO
EVOLVE IN THIS PART OF THE CITY.
BOTH IN THE CRA AS WELL AS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE

GASWORX PROJECT ACROSS THE NUCCIO PARKWAY.
10:03:41AM >> WE HAVE COMPILED AND ITEMIZED ACTIVITIES BASED OFF OF THE
ANNUAL CRA ACTIVITIES REPORT.
AND THIS ALLOWED US TO IDENTIFY AND ASSESS REDEVELOPMENT
TRENDS THROUGHOUT THE CENTRAL PARK CRA.
10:04:00AM >> THIS LAST MATRIX SORT OF SHOWS HOW WE TOOK YOUR PRIORITY
CRITERIA AND ROLLED THEM INTO WHAT WE'RE CALLING KEY
PERFORMANCE INDICATORS OR METRICS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW
REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IN THE PAST MEETS YOUR CRITERIA
TODAY.
SO I'LL LET IESSA TALK ABOUT THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
EACH ONE OF THESE IF WE DID MAKE SOME.
10:04:28AM >> THE FIRST ONE IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CENTRAL PART
CRA, MANY BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKEN.
10:04:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EXCUSE ME.
HOW MUCH TIME ARE YOU GOING TO NEED FOR YOUR PRESENTATION?
HOW MANY SLIDES.
10:04:45AM >> THIS IS THE LAST ONE.
WE DO HAVE TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:04:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AND THAT'S FINE.
10:04:50AM >> IN ADDITION, TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN UNDERTAKEN,
ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE
ENCOURAGED TO PROVIDE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL
USES AND LOCAL JOB OPPORTUNITIES ALREADY BEING UNDERTAKEN IN
THE PRESENTATION WE PREVIOUSLY SAW.

ATTAINABLE HOUSING, THERE ARE SOME AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THE
ENCORE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS IS ELDERLY HOUSING, BUT THE
TIF FUND EXPENDITURES SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED TO ACQUIRE
VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTY AS HAS BEEN DONE AND PUT
ASIDE FOR AFFORDABLE AND MIXED INCOME HOUSING OR MIXED USE
DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS AN AFFORDABLE UNIT COMPONENT.
ADDITIONALLY, GRANTS, TAX CREDITS AND OTHER FINANCIAL
STRATEGIES CAN BE USED TO FACILITATE CONSTRUCTION OF
AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE CRA AND ALSO
REGULATORY AND OTHER CONSTRAINTS THAT HINDER STREAMLINED
REVIEWS AND APPROVAL OF PROCESSES OF AFFORDABLE WORK HOUSE
PROJECTS IDENTIFIED.
OTHER SUBSIDIES, DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES AND OPPORTUNITIES
FOR INCLUSION OF WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE UNITS MARKET RATE
RESIDENTIAL IN THE CRA SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED.
CONNECTIVITY, THE SAFETY, WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL
ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN FEATURES AT THE KEY CORNERS OF THE CRA.
REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ENCOURAGED AT INTERSECTIONS OF EAST
CASS STREET AND NEBRASKA AVENUE AND NUCCIO.
THE PROPOSED BRIGHTLINE TRAIN STATION AND INCORPORATE SMALL
SCALE GATEWAY PLACE MAKING AND PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS ALONG
NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE AND EAST 7th AVENUE AND EAST PALM
AVENUE TO FACILITATE GREATER CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN TAMPA
HEIGHTS AND YBOR CITY.
FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT

SMALL SCALE PUBLIC REALM, PUBLIC ART AND PEDESTRIAN FEATURES
LIKE THOSE IDENTIFIED IN THE CAC AND COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS TO
COMPLEMENT WHAT'S GOING ON ALREADY IN REDEVELOPMENT AND
CONTRIBUTE TO UNIQUE IDENTITY AND SENSE OF PLACE AND IMPROVE
LIVABILITY AND WELL-BEING OF RESIDENTS.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE HAVE FOLDED THAT INTO OUR PROCESS
AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:07:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANY COMMENTS ON THIS PORTION OF THE
PRESENTATION FROM THE BOARD?
I JUST HAVE ONE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THE
MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL.
HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE SAYING THAT FOR TAMPA HEIGHTS AS WELL
WHEN WE ARE CONSIDERING PROJECTS BECAUSE THAT INFORMS THE
COMMUNITY THAT THERE ARE THINGS FOR THEM, WALKABLE, AND
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I'M GLAD YOU ALL POINTED THAT OUT AND IT WAS REPRESENTED IN
YOUR REPORT.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:07:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE'VE HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, BUT I
RECOMMEND YOU REPLACE PUBLIC ART WITH ART ACTIVATION.
PUBLIC ART BY ITSELF IS A VERY SPECIFIC, BUREAUCRATIC
PROCESS THAT THE CITY HAS TO GO THROUGH.
ART ACTIVATION IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAT'S
EASIER TO ACCESS.

WHICH CAN INCLUDE CONVINCING ART GALLERIES TO MOVE IN AND
PERFORMANCE, DANCE PERFORMANCES AND OTHER THINGS BESIDES
JUST PUBLIC ART.
10:08:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I LIKE THAT, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
NOW WE'LL MOVE TO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
MS. SOTO, CAN YOU SET THE TIMER FOR THIS PORTION OF THE
PRESENTATION?
JUST FOR EFFICIENCY.
10:08:39AM >> ROLLING RIGHT INTO THE TAMPA RIVER HEIGHTS CRA PLAN
UPDATE, HERE YOU CAN SEE SOME AREA MAPS.
SHOW YOU ON THE LEFT WHAT THE AREA LOOKED LIKE WHEN THE CRA
PLAN WAS ADOPTED.
THIS WAS AFTER, OF COURSE, A LOT OF CLEARANCE HAD BEEN DONE.
THE OLD POLICE STATION SITE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER
PROPERTIES THAT WERE IN THE AREA AND, OF COURSE, ON THE
RIGHT, YOU CAN SORT OF SEE IT RELATIVE TO THAT SORT OF
NORTHERN BEND OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND, OF COURSE,
TAMPA HEIGHTS COMMUNITY JUST TO THE EAST OF THAT.
AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THE CRA IS A PLAN UPDATE.
SAME AS CENTRAL PARK CRA PLAN, TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE
STATUS OF THINGS, REDEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE AREA.
SINCE THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED AND THE SCOPE OF THE CRA PLAN
UPDATE IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS WELL.
10:09:49AM >> THE TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT CRA PLAN IS IN FULL
COMPLIANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 163,

PART 3 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
IT'S ALSO IN COMPLIANCE WITH TAMPA'S IMAGINE 2040
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CITY OF TAMPA ZONING AND PLANNING
INITIATIVES ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY, AGAIN, WE USE THE TIERED
APPROACH WHICH INVOLVED AREA STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS,
COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS AND ONLINE SURVEYS AS WELL AS IN PERSON
MEET AND ATTENDANCE WITH THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CAC.
AS WELL AS CITY OF TAMPA DEPARTMENT CONSULTATIONS AND OTHER
COMMUNITY MEET-INS.
10:10:37AM >> THESE MAPS GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS.
AGAIN, ON THE LEFT, WHAT THINGS SORT OF LOOKED LIKE IN 2002
AND THEN AN AERIAL IMAGE OF JUST LAST YEAR.
OF COURSE, THESE ARE CERTAINLY CHANGING QUITE A BIT IN THIS
CRA.
AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LONG-STANDING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
WITH ONE ENTITY WHO ACTUALLY CONTROLS THE REMAINDER OF THE
DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE TAMPA RIVERFRONT HEIGHTS
CRA.
THIS IS A MATRIX SORT OF SHOWING THE COMPLETED REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECTS WITHIN THE CRA FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT,
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, INSTITUTIONAL DEVELOPMENT,
INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, AS WELL AS PARKING.
THIS IMAGE SORT OF SHOWS YOU THE REMAINDER OF THE LAND THAT
COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT CRA.

IT TOTALS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 20 ACRES.
IT IS STILL A LOT TO DO.
THIS CRA IS DEVELOPING INTO, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THESE IMAGES,
FROM THEIR MASTER PLAN FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I DO KNOW
THEY HAVE A NEW MASTER PLAN THAT THEY ARE WORKING FROM OR
REVISED ONE, I SHOULD SAY.
BUT IT IS TRANSFORMING THIS AREA, PARTICULARLY THE CRA INTO
A MIXED USE URBAN VILLAGE.
AGAIN, SOME OF THE REMAINING ENTITLEMENTS FOR FUTURE
DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CRA AND THIS IMAGE ON THE RIGHT GIVES
YOU AN IDEA -- THIS IS FROM AN OLDER MASTER PLAN, AN IDEA OF
WHAT THINGS COULD LOOK LIKE.
AGAIN, THE RANGE OF BUILDING TYPES THAT COULD BE BUILT WITH
A LOT OF THE VACANT LAND WITHIN THE REMAINING YEARS OF THE
CRA ITSELF, AS THE DEVELOPER PROCEEDS WITH THEIR PHASED
DEVELOPMENT FOR COMPLETING THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN.
AND THEN SOME OF THE TYPES OF BUILDINGS, IMAGES, RATHER,
SOME OF THE TYPES OF BUILDINGS THAT COULD BE BUILT THERE AS
WELL.
AGAIN, ANOTHER THREE-DIMENSIONAL DIAGRAM THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT
IS PLANNED OR PROPOSED, BOTH IN THE CRA AS WELL AS ADJACENT
TO IT ON THE EAST AND ACROSS THE RIVER IN THE WEST RIVER
DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS -- MOST OF THIS IS PRETTY MUCH DONE
NOW.
10:13:22AM >> AGAIN, WE COMPILED AND ITEMIZED ACTIVITIES FROM THE CRA'S

ANNUAL ACTIVITY REPORT.
THIS ALLOWED US TO IDENTIFY AND ASSESS PAST AND CURRENT
REDEVELOPMENT TRENDS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:13:42AM >> THESE ARE THE ECONOMIC -- THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS
AND THE ASSESSMENT OF THEIR STATUS.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE FIRST ONE, CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN
UNDERWAY, PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, BUT THERE'S STILL A
WAYS TO GO SO THERE ARE NO RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS TIME FOR
THAT OBJECTIVE.
FOR ATTAINABLE HOUSING, THERE IS AN ONGOING NEED FOR
AFFORDABLE ATTAINABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE CRA.
CURRENTLY ONLY MARKET RATE HOUSING IS PLANNED.
TO DATE NOTHING HAS BEEN BUILT.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED IN CRA TO APPROVE
LOCAL HOUSING -- COMPLY WITH STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AND MEET
CITY OF TAMPA AFFORDABLE HOUSING OBJECTIVES AND AVAILABLE TO
FRIENDS SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED AND GRANTS AND TAX CREDITS,
OPPORTUNITIES SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED AND EXPLORED FOR
REGULATORY RELIEF TO SUPPORT INCLUSION OF AFFORDABLE UNITS
AND MARKET RATE BUILDINGS IN THE CRA.
REGARDS TO CONNECTIVITY, OPPORTUNITIES SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED
FOR EXPANDING CONNECTIVITY INTO THE CRA FROM THE NORTH AND
THE EAST WITH NEW PUBLIC BROWNFIELD FEATURES DESCRIBED IN
THE CITY'S WALK-BIKE PLAN.
COORDINATION WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

SHOULD BE MADE TO IMPLEMENT ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY AND
CONNECTIVITY FEATURES ALONG NORTH TAMPA STREET.
HART SHOULD BE COORDINATED WITH IN THEIR PLANS FOR TECO
STREETCAR EXTENSION AND STATION STOPS ADJACENT TO THE CRA.
FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE, ADDITIONAL SMALL SCALE PUBLIC REALM
MEASURES SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED WHICH HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN
THE CRA WORKSHOPS SUCH AS WAY FINDING, PLACE-MAKING, PARK
ENHANCEMENTS, VITALITY, A SENSE OF PLACE, LIVEABILITY AND
SUPPORT ONGOING REDEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENT A PUBLIC ART
FEATURE THROUGHOUT THE CRA TO ENHANCE ITS GENERAL CHARACTER,
PLACE BRAND AND OVERALL VISUAL IDENTITY AND FOR COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE FOLDED THAT INTO OUR PROCESS AND WE HAVE
NO FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:15:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:15:36AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON THIS.
IN BOTH OF THESE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO GO BACK TO THE
STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE DID FOR THE CRA.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
HAVING AN OUTPUT GOAL WHICH IS TO BUILD BUILDINGS AND
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE OUTCOME GOAL, WHICH IS IMPROVE, AS
YOU SAY QUALITY OF LIFE.
QUALITY OF LIFE IS NOT MEASURED IN TERMS OF SIDEWALK MILES
OR BICYCLE LANE MILES.
IT'S DETERMINED IN TERMS OF ITS ACTUAL IMPACT ON PEOPLE.

SAME THING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT SHOULD ULTIMATELY BE MEASURED IN TERMS OF PER CAPITA
INCOME.
MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS GENTRIFYING.
HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG
TIME?
ONE OF THE MISTAKES TAMPA HAS MADE FOR A LONG TIME IN THE
PAST IS TO BE FOCUSED ON WHAT I CALL THE EDIFICE COMPLEX.
THAT THE GOAL IS JUST BUILDINGS.
YES, 163 TALKS ABOUT PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND HAS SOME
LIMITATIONS ON THAT BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T BE
FOCUSED ON THE OUTCOME WHICH IS HOW DO WE IMPROVE PEOPLE'S
LIVES.
AN EXAMPLE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT SPATIALLY WITH THE LAND
THAT ARMATURE WORKS CAN DEVELOP, WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE
EXPERIENCE OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD INTERFACING
WITH THOSE SPACES?
HOW WILL THEY AND THE NEW RESIDENTS, HOW WILL THEY BENEFIT
FROM THE SPACES AND THE INTERACTIVITY?
10:17:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
KIND OF DOUBLING DOWN ON WHAT COUNCILMAN
CARLSON SAID, YOU HAVE REALLY INTERESTING THINGS DEVELOPING
AROUND THE CRA THAT ARE NOT INCLUSIVE.
HAVING THAT RELATIONSHIP VIA AGAIN NOT NECESSARILY THE
LENGTH OF SIDEWALKS, BUT THE VALUE ADDED IN THE SIDEWALKS AS
FAR AS WALKABILITY, THE WIDTH, INTERCONNECTIVITY TO THE

PROPOSED STREETCAR EXTENSION AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PUBLIX
GROCERY STORE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CRA, HAVING THAT
RESIDENT INTERCONNECTIVITY TO THOSE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS I
THINK WILL BE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE CRA IS SO
CONFINED AND SO LIMITED.
BUT THE IMPACT IT COULD HAVE ON FUTURE RESIDENTS LIVING
WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES AND, OF COURSE, THE ADJACENT
NEIGHBORHOODS IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF
TAMPA.
I APPRECIATE YOU ALL LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THAT SMALL BOX.
THANK YOU.
10:18:00AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:18:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 9.
KICK THIS OFF, BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:18:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
APPRECIATE THAT.
THIS DEALS WITH THE FARE-FREE STREETCAR.
THERE ARE INTERNAL HART BOARD ISSUES WITH THIS.
I KNOW MR. WILLITS IS HERE.
JUSTIN IS HERE WITH HART.
THE ISSUE WAS THAT THERE WAS A DISPUTE BETWEEN HART --
SHOULDN'T SAY DISPUTE -- DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN HART AND THE
CITY OF TAMPA AS TO ONGOING COSTS FOR KEEPING THE STREETCAR
FARE-FREE.

SO WE WERE TASKED WITH SPEAKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
ABOUT COMING UP WITH A COMPROMISE ON HOW THE CITY COULD
ASSUME THESE FUNDS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS WILL ON THE HART BOARD FOR MAJORITY
VOTE.
I DON'T BELIEVE FOR HART ASSUMING THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
SO MR. WILLITS CAME UP WITH AN IDEA ON TAKING A LOOK AT A
FUNDING ALLOCATION THAT WAS BEING MADE FOR BUS SHELTERS,
WHICH COULDN'T BE GOTTEN TO THIS YEAR.
MOVING THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE BUS SHELTERS COULDN'T
BE DONE UNTIL NEXT YEAR, AS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED
HERE.
MAYBE JUSTIN OR SOMEONE FROM STAFF CAN ANSWER THIS.
APPEARS TO BE LESS THAN WHAT I UNDERSTAND WAS ALLOCATED FOR
THIS.
THAT WAS SORT OF THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS REACHED.
I KNOW THIS MEMO SORT OF MEMORIALIZES THINGS GOING FORWARD.
THIS IS A TEMPORARY -- THIS IS VERY, VERY TEMPORARY.
ALL THIS DOES IS PUSH THIS ISSUE OFF A LITTLE BIT MORE.
MR. McCRAY OR JUSTIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WANTED TO
SPEAK.
10:19:54AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
I'LL INVITE MS. ORR AND MS. THROWER UP.
THEY WERE CLOSING TO IT WORKING WITH THEIR CACs.

TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN VIERA, THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A
BAND-AID, THE FUNDING ALLOCATED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE
CACs WILL ONLY TAKE US TO THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
A SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WE'RE
APPROACHING BUDGET SEASON TO SEE WHAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO
MOVING FORWARD IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE
AT THAT RATE.
10:20:35AM >>COURTNEY ORR:
DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR DOWNTOWN.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION AFTER THE MOTION WAS MADE AT THE
LAST MEETING, WE IMMEDIATELY STARTED WORKING WITH JUSTIN AND
HIS TEAM TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD MAKE THIS WORK.
THEY CAME TO EACH OF OUR CACs, DOWNTOWN, CHANNEL DISTRICT,
AND YBOR TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION.
THE PREMISE WAS THAT THE $700,000 THAT WAS HELPING THAT FREE
FARE OPTION AVAILABLE TO THE RIDERS EXPIRED.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE UP THE $700,000 THAT WOULD
CONTINUE TO KEEP THE FARE FREE FOR OUR VISITORS AND
RESIDENTS.
WE SPLIT THAT INTO THIRDS.
233,000 FROM CHANNEL DISTRICT.
233,000 FROM DOWNTOWN.
234 YBOR PAID AN EXTRA THOUSAND, 234 FROM YBOR.
THAT WOULD CUMULATIVELY MAKE UP THE 700,000 TO ALLOW THE
FARES TO BE FREE UNTIL SEPTEMBER OR WHATEVER THE NEXT PLAN
IS.

BUT FOR NOW, WE WERE ABLE TO GET CONSENSUS FROM EACH OF
THOSE CACs TO REALLOCATE FUNDING TO MAKE THAT FUNDING
POSSIBLE.
10:22:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH HART TO DO
THAT.
MS. THROWER, DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT?
10:22:04AM >>BRENDA THROWER:
THANK YOU.
BRENDA THROWER, YBOR CITY CRA MANAGER.
THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD, THERE WAS CONFUSION ABOUT THE HART
BUS STOP MONEY, THE ONLY BUDGET THAT ACTUALLY HAD ALLOCATED
FUNDS IN THEIR FY '25 BUDGET WAS YBOR ONE.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR SHEET THERE AND ALL THE
REALLOCATIONS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A REALLOCATION OF
$100,000 ALREADY IN FY '25 THAT'S GOING TOWARDS THIS FUNDING
REQUEST TODAY.
THE OTHER BUDGETS DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THERE YET, BUT THERE WAS
A PLAN THAT HART WAS WORKING ON WITH THE CITY THROUGH OUR
SPECIAL PROJECTS TO COME FORWARD WITH THAT ASK.
10:22:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:22:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY NEED 1.4 MILLION,
NOT THE 700 MILLION.
I'M CURIOUS, IF THE CACs HAD ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON OTHER
PLACES TO FIND THE MONEY.
10:23:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THIS IS FOR US.

10:23:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I'M ASKING OUR CRA MANAGERS.
10:23:13AM >> YES.
SO AT THE YBOR CITY CRA MEETING, WHICH WAS THE FIRST GROUP
THEY CAME TO, THERE WAS THAT DISCUSSION.
THERE WAS ONE -- TWO OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS THAT SAID WHAT
ABOUT THE PORT AUTHORITY OR OTHER ENTITIES THAT COULD HELP
SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.
THAT WAS JUST TOSSED OUT THERE.
THEY WERE JUST LOOKING AT THEIR OWN COFFERS OF WHAT THEY
COULD SUPPORT.
WE ACTUALLY GIVE ABOUT 1.5 MILLION FROM TAMPA CRA EVERY
YEAR.
WE'VE BEEN GIVING -- THIS IS A DOUBLE ASK THIS YEAR.
IF YOU LOOK BACK ON YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU SEE WHAT THE
CURRENT SUPPORT HAS BEEN FOR YEARS ON THE STREETCAR.
SO EACH OF THE DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN GIVING A LITTLE BIT,
ABOUT -- IT'S GIVE OR TAKE, BUT EACH CRA IS GIVEN ABOUT
$500,000 A YEAR.
10:24:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THAT'S REALLY MY QUESTION.
BECAUSE WE GOT AN E-MAIL TO THAT EFFECT SAYING, HEY, WHY
AREN'T WE GETTING SOME PARTICIPATION FROM OTHER ENTITIES
THAT MIGHT BENEFIT FROM THE STREETCAR?
SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU'RE PLANNING OR RATHER I GUESS I'M
ASKING IF YOU'RE GOING TO PLAN TO HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS

WITH SOME OF THE ENTITIES THAT RECEIVE BENEFITS FROM THIS.
10:24:31AM >> I THINK THE REAL -- JUSTIN WILLITS, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING
AND SCHEDULING FROM HART.
I THINK THE REAL QUESTION IS FOR THS AND HOW THEY PLAN TO
FUND THE STREETCAR NEXT YEAR.
THS IS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT MAKES THE REQUEST, BECAUSE THE
CITY IS SUPPOSED TO FUND.
THS HAS WORKED WITH THE CRA ALL THESE YEARS TO FIND MATCHING
FUNDS.
I WOULD SAY THAT QUESTION IS REALLY FOR THS AND THE CITY TO
DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO FUND THE STREETCAR, NOT NECESSARILY
FOR HOW THE CRA WOULD WANT TO DO IT.
IF YOU ALL WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO IT, THAT IS THE PLEASURE
OF THE BOARD AND THE CRA BOARD, BUT REALLY IT'S A QUESTION
DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS OF THE CITY, AND THIS IS HELPING
ADDRESS THAT SHORTFALL FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND SOME
OTHER THINGS.
AND WE'RE COMFORTABLE.
THE SHORTFALL WAS PROJECTED TO BE 1.3.
THAT WAS A PLAN, RIGHT?
SO WE BUDGETED FOR THAT.
THE PROJECTION RIGHT NOW WE FEEL IS GOING TO COME IN UNDER
THAT.
WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 700,000, FILLING THAT GAP AND
GETTING US INTO PLANNING FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

10:25:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO ASK, BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, I
KNOW YOU SIT ON THAT BOARD.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THAT BOARD IS WILLING TO DO, THE OTHER
ENTITIES THEY ARE WILLING TO TALK TO TO TRY TO GET SOME
FUNDING?
10:25:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU MENTIONED 1.3
MILLION, BUT ESTIMATES OR THE REAL NUMBERS ARE COMING IN A
LITTLE BIT UNDERNEATH.
YOU WERE SAYING 700,000 IS THE NUMBER THAT IS COMFORTABLE TO
CONTINUE IT FOR THE FARE FREE FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR,
ALLOW US TO START PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR, RIGHT?
10:26:09AM >> GET US THROUGH THE END OF THIS FISCAL, YES, SIR.
10:26:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MS. THROWER, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YBOR
ONE WAS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS.
HOW MANY CRAs CONTRIBUTE --
10:26:21AM >>BRENDA THROWER:
SORRY.
THAT IS CONFUSING.
THERE ARE FOUR CRAs CONTRIBUTING TO THIS.
YBOR ONE, YBOR TWO, CHANNEL DISTRICT, AND DOWNTOWN.
10:26:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE THEY EQUALLY SPLIT?
25, 25, 25, 25% EACH?
10:26:35AM >>BRENDA THROWER:
NOT QUITE.
IT'S MORE ONE-THIRD.
WHAT HAPPENS IN YBOR ONE AND TWO IS WE SPLIT IT 80/20
BECAUSE THE STREETCAR GOES MORE THROUGH YBOR ONE, BUT IT

TOUCHES, GOES THROUGH YBOR 2.
WE'VE DONE THAT FOR YEARS.
OUT OF THE ONE-THIRD SPLIT, LET'S JUST SAY 225,000, WE HAVE,
AND IT IS IN YOUR CHART, YBOR ONE GIVES 188,000 A YEAR.
THAT IS THE BASE.
AND THEN 37,000 COMES FROM YBOR 2.
SO WHEN WE WERE GIVEN THIS ASK FOR THE 700,000, WE DID THE
SAME SPLIT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
10:27:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT GOES INTO DOWNTOWN, THE WHITING
STATION.
WE TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING IT FURTHER NORTH.
ANOTHER DISCUSSION TO TAKE IT TO PALM AND EVERYTHING.
IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WORK, MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE LOOK AT THE
DOWNTOWN CRA WHICH IS MOST FLUSH WITH CASH, DON'T WANT TO
SAY FLUSH WITH CASH BUT HAS MORE OPPORTUNITY OF AVAILABLE
DOLLARS TO MAKE UP THAT SHORTFALL, CONSIDERING WE'RE LOOKING
AT THE FUTURE OF EXPANDING THE STREETCAR WHICH WOULD BENEFIT
MORE OF DOWNTOWN AND GO INTO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
IN ORDER TO MEET THAT 700,000 AND NOT BURDEN YBOR AND NOT
LOOK AT THE OTHER ONES THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, CAN WE MAKE
THAT ASK INSTEAD OF -- I DON'T KNOW.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK.
10:28:00AM >>BRENDA THROWER:
RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE ALL THREE CACs
SUPPORTING THIS AND THEY ARE FINE WITH THIS FISCAL YEAR WITH

THE SPLIT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THAT'S REALLY HOW IT'S SOLD
AMONGST THEM BECAUSE THEY ALL KNEW THEY WEREN'T THE ONLY ONE
INVOLVED IN THIS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING THE STREETCAR FOR MANY, MANY
YEARS.
THIS WAS JUST AN ADDITIONAL ASK.
BUT THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE FUTURE.
10:28:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF YOU LOOK AT THE RIDERSHIP, IT IS
CONTINUOUSLY GOING UP.
YES, NOTHING FREE IN LIFE.
IT'S COMING FROM SOMEWHERE.
I USE THIS AT THE TPO, IT'S ABSENT OF FARES.
IT'S NOT JUST TOURISTS THAT USE IT.
BECAUSE WHEN I USE IT, WHICH IS OFTEN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF
EVERYBODY.
YES, YOU GO DOWN TO GRECO PLAZA, PEOPLE FROM THE CONVENTION
CENTER, THE HOTELS.
I SEE PEOPLE FROM YBOR COMING OFF IN THE CHANNEL AREA OR
PEOPLE FROM DOWNTOWN.
LIKE WHAT I'LL DO, I'M PARKED HERE AND I WANT TO GO TO YBOR
ON A FRIDAY EVENING WITH MY FRIENDS, I'LL MEET THEM VIA
STREETCAR.
I'M NOT PAYING FOR THE PARKING THERE, WHICH, YES, TWO HOURS
FREE IN SOME LOTS, THE CITY LOTS, BUT I'M NOT GIVING

SOMEBODY TEN BUCKS TO PARK.
PEOPLE ARE USING IT FOR WORK, PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING,
WORKING, THEY ARE USING IT.
IT'S ALWAYS BUSY.
I HAVEN'T SEEN, MAYBE 7 IN THE MORNING EARLY ON IT MIGHT BE
LIGHT, BUT IT'S CONSTANTLY PACKED.
THE USE IS THERE.
THE DESIRE IS THERE.
THE SUPPORT FROM THE CACs WITHIN THE AREAS IS THERE.
THE MONEY IS THERE.
I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF THE GRANT AND NOT HAVING THE GRANT,
I'VE HAD OTHER DISCUSSIONS AT THE STREETCAR MEETINGS.
WHAT IF WE WENT BACK TO A FARE AND MADE IT A DOLLAR.
NOW THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE RIDERSHIP, WILL IT BALANCE IT
OUT?
WELL, YOU HAVE TO REACTIVATE THE FAREBOXES OR GET NEW
FAREBOXES BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY IS DIFFERENT.
THAT'S IT.
BUT THE WILL IS THERE.
THANK YOU.
10:29:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA FOLLOWED BY BOARD
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:29:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
HOW I FEEL BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO THINGS IN MY MIND, THE
FERRY IS ONE OF THEM.

THE STREETCAR IS THE SECOND.
EVERYTHING THAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO
TOMORROW REGARDING ANY HELP FROM ANYTHING.
AND ANYTHING IN GOVERNMENT THAT WE ASK FOR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHORTFALL, POSSIBLY SMALL, PLUS
MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT I ANTICIPATE.
SO WE START FUNDING THESE THINGS, ALL OF THEM AND THE
GOVERNMENT CUTS US BACK, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
KEEP FUNDING?
HOW CAN YOU DO THAT?
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST THE STREETCAR AND THE FERRY.
I NEVER VOTED FOR THE FERRY.
I VOTED AGAINST THE STREETCAR FARE BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY
THE NUMBER ONE AREA THAT WAS BRINGING MORE FUNDS TO THE
FAREBOXES THAN ANY OTHER ROUTE -- MAYBE I'M WRONG.
THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER.
SO WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS THAT INSTEAD OF BEING JUST LOCAL,
THE STREETCAR -- I MEAN, THE BUSES GO EVERYWHERE OUTSIDE THE
CITY LIMITS, AM I CORRECT?
WHAT DOES IT COST TO TAKE SOMEBODY FROM HERE TO WIMAUMA?
10:31:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IS THAT A QUESTION?
IS THAT RHETORICAL?
10:31:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF IT'S WIMAUMA, DO YOU GO OUTSIDE THE
CITY LIMITS?

10:31:10AM >> YEAH, WE'RE A COUNTYWIDE ORGANIZATION.
10:31:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT GALLS ME A LITTLE BIT IS WHEN YOU
TALK TO OTHER GOVERNMENTS, WE PRODUCE 30% OF THE SALES TAX,
BUT WHEN IT COMES UP TO GIVE THE MONEY, THEY DON'T GIVE YOU
BACK 30% ON ANYTHING WE DO WITH THEM.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE STREETCAR.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ANALOGY THAT I GATHERED IN MY MIND THE
LAST FEW MONTHS, THE SALES TAX THAT WENT OUT TO THE
GOVERNMENT, FILED THE LAWSUIT, CAME BACK.
WE PAID 30.1% OF THE MONEY AND WE'RE NOT GETTING 30.1% OF
THE MONEY.
YES, WE ASK FOR THE BURDEN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY IS PARTICIPATING IN THE FREE
RIDES.
ARE THEY OR NOT?
10:31:48AM >> I CAN TELL YOU HART IS GETTING ZERO PERCENT AND WE'RE
SUPPOSED TO GET 50 PERCENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SALES TAX.
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
10:31:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHEN YOU LOOK AT GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE A
LOT OF FLOATING THINGS THAT GO TOGETHER.
JUST ONE LINE TO ONE LINE, A LOT OF THINGS TIED INTO THINGS.
SO MAYBE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND, SIR.
WHEN YOU HAVE 30% COLLECTION IN SOMETHING, YOU ONLY GET BACK

20, THAT MEANS THAT THE MONEY I WOULD HAVE HAD TO FUND THIS
THING IS NOT THERE.
THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.
HAVE TO SPEND SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF YOU WANT.
10:32:25AM >> 60% OF OUR REVENUE COMES FROM UNINCORPORATED COUNTY AND
THE CITY GETS 50% OF HART SERVICE, BUT THAT IS BUS RELATED.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREETCAR, AND THAT IS THE CITY'S --
10:32:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE STREETCAR -- I'M NOT AS SMART AS
MR. CARLSON ON ADVERTISING AND ALL THAT, YOU OUGHT TO HAVE,
TRAVEL FIVE MILES, PAY ONE QUARTER OF THE RENT.
PAY SOMETHING, GET SO MUCH BACK.
IT'S GOT TO CHANGE.
SOONER OR LATER THIS GOVERNMENT, WHAT I SEE COMING, ALL
GOVERNMENTS, FROM WASHINGTON TO TALLAHASSEE, IS NOT GOING TO
BE ABLE TO THROW MONEY AROUND.
THAT'S IT.
10:33:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN FOLLOWED BY BOARD
MEMBER CARLSON.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, DID YOU --
10:33:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WON'T REVISIT THE TRAUMA ABOUT HOW WE
GOT HERE.
THAT'S ONE THING.
I DO SUPPORT THIS AS A COMPROMISE MEASURE TO MAINTAIN THE

SUCCESS OF THE STREETCAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THIS
TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION.
IF YOU HAVE A CAR ON THE ROAD, AVERAGE OF 1.5 PERSONS PER
CAR.
IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN BUILDING TRANSIT IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, SO WE'RE TAKING FOR EVERY CAR, EVERY ONE AND A HALF
PERSONS THAT TRAVELS IN THAT TRANSIT, WE'RE TAKING A CAR OFF
OF THE ROAD.
SO FOR OUR RESIDENTS OF HARBOUR ISLAND THAT SUFFERS THROUGH
GRIDLOCK TRYING TO GET ON AND OFF THE ISLAND, CAN YOU
IMAGINE IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE STREETCAR AND FOR EVERY ONE
AND A HALF PERSONS THERE'S ANOTHER VEHICLE TRYING TO GET
THROUGH THE AMALIE ARENA AREA OR NORTH FLORIDA WHEN WE'RE
TRYING TO TRAVEL ON NORTH FLORIDA OR GETTING IN AND OUT OF
YBOR CITY DURING THEIR PEAK TIMES.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXPAND THE STREETCAR UP TO
COLUMBUS AND THE AMOUNT OF GRIDLOCK WE'LL TAKE OFF THE
STREETS, LOOK AT ALL THE UNDEVELOPED LAND IN NORTH DOWNTOWN
TAMPA AND PARTS OF TAMPA HEIGHTS AND THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS
THAT WILL COME IN THAT AREA.
FOR EVERY ONE AND A HALF PERSONS, ANOTHER VEHICLE ON THE
ROAD WE'RE TAKING OFF.
YOU SEE THE SUCCESS IN THE STREETCAR BEING ONE OF THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL STREETCARS IN THE NATION.

AND WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH ROUTE ONE AND COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK BROUGHT BEFORE US AND I'M SURE SHE WILL SHARE SOME OF
THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS WE'VE SEEN WITH ROUTE ONE WITH THE
FARE FREE, THOSE ARE NEW PEOPLE RIDING THE BUS NOW THAT WERE
NOT RIDING THE BUS A FEW MONTHS AGO.
EVERY ONE AND A HALF PERSONS, THAT IS A VEHICLE WE'RE TAKING
OFF OF THE ROADS.
THE FOLKS THAT DO NOT RIDE MASS TRANSIT, GUESS WHAT, YOU'RE
COMPETING WITH LESS PEOPLE ON THE ROAD.
THIS IS BENEFITING NOT JUST THE FOLKS SITTING IN THE SEATS,
IT'S BENEFITING EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK FOR CREATIVE WAYS
TO MAINTAIN THE LEVELS OF SERVICE.
IT'S NO LONGER WHAT IF WE DID THIS, WHAT WILL HAPPEN, WE
KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING.
WE SEE BY ELIMINATING THE FARES ON THE STREETCAR, HOW MANY
PEOPLE THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN SEATS.
GRANTED -- NOW, THE DATA IS TOO EARLY, SO I'M NOT GOING TO
TAKE THIS AS A LONG-TERM ASSUMPTION BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE A YEAR TO STUDY THIS.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S LOOKING PROMISING WITH WHAT WE DID WITH
ROUTE ONE.
WE'VE SEEN THE SUCCESS INITIALLY.
HOPEFULLY IT WILL CONTINUE TO CLIMB.
AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.

WE HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
PEOPLE SPEND WAY TOO MUCH MONEY ON TRANSPORTATION.
IF WE CAN ELIMINATE THE NEED TO HAVE A CAR PAYMENT, TO HAVE
CAR MAINTENANCE, TO HAVE INSURANCE PAYMENTS, GOD, LOOK AT
THE INSURANCE.
THE PERCENTAGE OF MONEY THAT PEOPLE ARE PAYING TO GET FROM
POINT A TO POINT B, GET TO DOCTOR APPOINTMENT FOR SENIOR
CITIZENS, GET TO THE PHARMACY, YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET TO THEIR
PLACES OF EDUCATION AND PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT, IF WE COULD
ELIMINATE THAT PORTION OF WHAT THEY ARE SPENDING OUT OF
THEIR MONTHLY INCOME, GUESS WHAT, THEY CAN START AFFORDING
HOUSING.
THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN THESE PLACES.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF INITIATIVE.
WHILE IT WASN'T A PERFECT WAY OF GETTING HERE, I WOULD HAVE
PREFERRED LONGER RANGE PLANNING AND SOME INFORMATION SHARED
UP FRONT SO WE CAN PIVOT TO THIS.
THIS IS WHAT WE'LL DO THE NEXT FISCAL AND FISCAL YEARS AFTER
THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THESE TYPE OF PROGRAMS.
THIS IS THE FUTURE OF TAMPA.
UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO LIVE IN ORLANDO, IF YOU WANT TO
CREATE AN ORLANDO IN TAMPA, THEN HAVE AT IT.
IF WE WANT TO AVOID THE MESS THAT WE SEE JUST DOWN THE ROAD,
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING.

10:36:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON FOLLOWED BY BOARD
MEMBER HURTAK AND THEN BACK TO YOU, MR. VIERA.
10:36:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT ROUTE 1
SOME TIME AGO.
MY POSITION IS THAT HART WAS MOVED OUT OF THE CITY DURING
THE MARTINEZ ADMINISTRATION WITH ITS OWN TAXING AUTHORITY.
IT IS THE HART BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY TO FUND ITSELF, NOT TO
ASK THE CITY TO SUBSIDIZE.
ALTHOUGH PHILOSOPHICALLY I AGREE WITH TRYING TO SUPPORT
ROUTES LIKE ROUTE ONE.
THE HART BOARD NEEDS TO STEP UP AND MAKE THAT DECISION, NOT
THE CITY.
THE AD VALOREM TAXES WE HAVE DON'T EVEN COVER POLICE AND
FIRE.
PEOPLE THINK BECAUSE THE PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING UP EVERY
YEAR THAT WE ARE FLUSH WITH DOLLARS.
WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY THE LAST FEW YEARS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT
EXTRA WHICH WE'VE BEEN PAYING MOSTLY IN ADDITIONAL SALARIES
TO PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T HAD RAISES IN A LONG TIME.
THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE EXCESS CASH.
A LOT OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE
COMMUNITY BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
NOW WE FOUND OUT THAT THE CITY IS ON THE VERGE OF MAXING OUT
ALL OF ITS CREDIT CARDS IN TERMS OF DEBT.
WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

BOARD MEMBER VIERA MENTIONED THE CITY.
CAN SOMEBODY TELL US, IS THE CITY PUTTING IN MONEY OR JUST
THE CRA?
DOES ANYBODY KNOW?
IS THE CITY PUTTING IN MONEY OR JUST THE CRA?
UNLESS THE CITY IS PUTTING MONEY, IF IT IS A CRA PROJECT,
UNLESS THE CITY IS PUTTING IN MONEY OR EVEN IF THEY ARE,
SINCE THERE'S ALREADY CRA MONEY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE
IDENTIFY THE CRA PROJECT.
WHEN THE PRESS CONFERENCE HAPPENS, THERE SHOULD BE NO PRESS
CONFERENCE FOR THE CRA UNLESS IT'S SCHEDULED WITH A CRA
BOARD CHAIR.
THERE SHOULD BE NO PRESS CONFERENCE.
I SAID THIS TWO PRIOR CHAIRS.
THE CRA PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT THE CRA OR TO EDUCATE THE
PUBLIC ABOUT HOW WE'RE SPENDING CRA MONEY.
WHY IS IT THAT PRESS CONFERENCES ARE BEING HELD WITHOUT CRA
BOARD MEMBERS BEING INVITED OR WITHOUT SCHEDULING AROUND THE
CHAIR?
THE CHAIR IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON AT A CRA PRESS
CONFERENCE.
THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW.
WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE JUST LIKE OTHER PEOPLE GET
SPONSORSHIP THAT THE CRA DIFFERENT DISTRICTS GET SPONSORSHIP
AS WELL SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW.

BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED AFTER HART WAS
MOVED OUT BY THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION, I'M OKAY DOING THIS
ON A TEMPORARY BASIS.
AS BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA SAID, WE'VE GOT TO FIND NEW FUNDING
SOURCES IN THE FUTURE.
YOU ALL MENTIONED THE LEGISLATURE IS TRYING AGAIN TO GET RID
OF CRAs.
THEY ARE -- GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO GET RID OF PROPERTY
TAXES.
PROPERTY TAX IS A RELATIVELY SMALL PART OF OUR BUDGET.
WE CAN'T TAKE THAT SMALL PART OF OUR BUDGET AND KEEP
ALLOCATING IT ACROSS ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
CRA MONEY REALLY IS PROPERTY TAX MONEY.
SO WITHOUT THE CRA, THE MONEY IS STILL THERE, BUT WE DON'T
HAVE ENOUGH TO EVEN PAY A PORTION OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET.
WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE SET UP ANOTHER TIME TO TALK ABOUT
THIS, MAYBE IN CITY COUNCIL OR IN THE CRA, BUT WE'VE GOT TO
FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS FOR THE FUTURE.
SEEMS TO BE SUCCESS THAT IT'S FREE.
STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOT GOING TO FUND IT, HOW DO WE
FIGURE THIS OUT?
IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE THE TOOLS WE'RE
USING TO PAY FOR IT MIGHT GO AWAY.
JUST WHILE I HAVE THE FLOOR, ONE LAST COMMENT, PERSONAL

THING, JUSTIN, I'M INCREDIBLY SAD JUSTIN AND HIS WIFE ARE
LEAVING TAMPA BAY TOMORROW.
I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU YOU'VE COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT THESE
THINGS AND I HAVEN'T ALWAYS AGREED WITH YOU ON SOME OF THEM
BUT I KNOW THE THINGS YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IN THE
COMMUNITY MANY, MANY YEARS CREATING A VISION FOR TAMPA TO BE
A WALKABLE, BIKEABLE, TRANSIT-ORIENTED COMMUNITY.
I PERSONALLY CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU AND YOUR
WIFE HAVE DONE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS COMMUNITY OVER THE
YEARS.
I HOPE YOU DON'T STAY GONE VERY LONG AND YOU COME BACK.
THANK YOU.
10:41:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I AGREE WITH THAT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CERTAIN CRAs HAVING MORE MONEY BEING
ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE MORE, BUT I DON'T THINK LEGALLY WE CAN DO
THAT.
WE NEED TO LEGALLY MAKE SURE IT'S WORKING.
OUR LAWYER CAN HOP IN IF HE WANTS TO.
I DON'T THINK WE COULD BURDEN ONE CRA THAT HAPPENS TO HAVE
MORE MONEY.
I'LL PIGGYBACK ON WHAT BOARD MEMBER CARLSON SAID, NOBODY IS
TALKING ABOUT OTHER ENTITIES THAT COULD BE PAYING INTO THE
STREETCAR.
QUITE FRANKLY, IF IT'S BEING USED, EVEN A THIRD FOR TOURISM,

TOURISM DOLLARS SHOULD PROBABLY PAY FOR SOME OF IT.
WE REALLY NEED TO OPEN UP THE SCOPE, WHETHER THAT'S AT THE
TECO BOARD, THE TAMPA HISTORIC STREETCAR BOARD DISCUSSIONS
OR AS CITY COUNCIL.
BUT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO START TALKING IF WE WANT TO KEEP
IT FARE FREE, WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT WHAT OTHER
ENTITIES BESIDES GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THAT ARE BENEFITING
FROM IT WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT MONEY INTO IT.
OTHERWISE, WE ARE GOING TO PUT A FARE BACK ON BECAUSE AS
OTHERS HAVE SAID, WE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT A LOT OF FUNDING
SOURCES GOING FORWARD.
10:42:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA AND THEN RETURNING TO
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
MR. MIRANDA, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN?
10:42:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:42:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON
THIS.
THIS WAS MEANT TO BE A TEMPORARY SOLUTION TO SOMETHING THAT,
AGAIN, IN SPEAKING WITH HUMAIRA, LOOK, IF YOU WANT TO
PRESERVE THE CITY CRA, PRESERVE FARE FREE ON THE STREETCAR,
GET IT DONE NOW, EVEN IF TEMPORARY BECAUSE IT COULD BE GOING
AWAY.
THOSE ARE JUST THE FACTS.
YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN OPINION.
FACTS.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
WITH REGARDS TO THE BOARD GETTING NOTICE, WHEN I SPOKE WITH
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ABOUT IT TWO MONTHS AGO, IT WAS AN
UNDERSTANDING THEY WOULD BE BRIEFING CRA MEMBERS AND TO THE
BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE -- THAT'S WHY WE'RE DEALING WITH IT I
GUESS IF YOU WILL NOW.
AGAIN, THIS IS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
WE'LL LOOK AT MORE WIDESPREAD, SUSTAINABLE, LONG-TERM,
PERMANENT SOLUTIONS.
ALSO JOIN IN AGAIN WITH JUSTIN.
WE CERTAINLY WILL MISS YOU.
YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE A GREAT JOB.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE'VE WORKED ON, YOU'VE ALWAYS
DONE VERY, VERY WELL.
WHENEVER WE MOTION FOR THIS, DOES IT NEED TO BE RETROACTIVE
IN TERMS OF ANY FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT ALREADY?
10:43:51AM >> FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, YES, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE WISE.
10:43:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
IN TERMS OF THE MOTION, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN HAS ALWAYS HAD
A GREAT PASSION FOR THE STREETCAR.
I WOULD ASK, SIR, SINCE YOU ARE THE DUDE ON THIS, SO TO
SPEAK, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION.
BUT I WOULD DO ASK YOU DO IT RETROACTIVELY AS MR. WILLITS
TALKED ABOUT.
10:44:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE'LL GO TO YOU, MR. MIRANDA.

10:44:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO ONE IN THIS CITY HAS EVER VOTED FOR
THE STREETCAR ON THE ORIGINAL VOTE.
ONLY ONE, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PERSON.
I VOTED TO PUT THE STREETCAR IN.
I VOTED WITH MAYOR GRECO TO START THE STREETCAR ALL THE WAY
TO YBOR CITY.
IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND I'M GOING TO MY MIND, THOUSANDS
OF VOTES I'VE TAKEN, I THINK THE COST WAS ABOUT $11 MILLION.
THAT WAS THEN, MID '90s, I THINK.
IF I REMEMBER THAT, I REMEMBER ALL THE WORK THEY DID, REALLY
THE ADMINISTRATION.
I THINK IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
I'M NOT SURE.
10:44:57AM >> NO.
10:44:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION.
MAKE TWO MISTAKES ON ONE ITEM.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS NO ONE THOUGHT, GRECO, MYSELF, AND
OTHERS RODE THE STREETCAR.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE WE WERE THE OLDEST.
WE HAD REGISTRY CARD.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO RODE THE STREETCAR
OTHER THAN ONE AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PERSON.
BUT TIMES CHANGE.
PEOPLE LOOK FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.

HOW TO TRANSFER, HOW TO MOVE, HOW TO WALK, HOW TO RIDE,
WHATEVER.
WE DID THIS WITH A SHORT ITEM TO TRY THIS OUT.
I THINK TWO VOTES AGAINST IT, IF I RECALL.
NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION OF SOMETHING THAT TWO OF
US DIDN'T VOTE FOR.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE OTHER ONE IS GOING TO VOTE.
I'M JUST SAYING IT HAS TO BE DONE WHERE THE PUBLIC
UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I DON'T THINK THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE
WE'RE DOING THE SAME LINE, MOST STREETCAR THAT HAD THE FARE.
MAYBE I'M WRONG BECAUSE I DON'T SIT ON THE BOARD.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TRY TO HELP SOMEBODY GET FREE, GO TO
THE ONE NOT DOING ANYTHING.
SEE HOW MANY RIDERS GETTING FREE.
GUARANTEE HUNDRED PERCENT RETURN ON RIDERSHIP BECAUSE THEY
DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO RIDE EITHER.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
10:46:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
CLOSING OUT WITH BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:46:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FACT CHECKING ON HOW
IT WAS FUNDED.
CURRENT LINE WHEN IT WAS IMPLEMENTED THERE IS A SERVICE AREA
THAT IS DEFINED IN THE CURRENT ROUTE OF THE STREETCAR.
HOW IT WAS DONE AND WHEN IT WAS FIRST CREATED IS THE

BUSINESSES IN THAT SERVICE AREA.
ACTUALLY, THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
THEY HAVE GOT A STREETCAR LINE ITEM ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES
THAT ACTUALLY HELP FUND.
THERE IS ACTUALLY ONLY FROM BUSINESSES.
THERE IS -- THERE IS A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR FUNDING THIS TYPE
OF MECHANISM.
IT'S A SIMILAR WAY WE SEE LIGHTS FUNDED IN HISTORIC AREAS.
WE HAVE THESE AREAS THAT ARE DEFINED, GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS
THAT ARE DEFINED THAT ARE SERVICE AREAS FOR THE SPECIAL TYPE
OF SERVICES.
WHAT LEGAL STAFF IS STARTING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING AT
PROPOSING THE EXTENSION OF THE STREETCAR IS DEFINING THE
SERVICE AREA OF WHO IS ACTUALLY UTILIZING THE EXISTING
STREETCAR AND THEN THE PROPOSED EXTENSION.
THAT SERVICE AREA WILL BE DEFINED AND THEN A MOVEMENT TO
HAVE A SPECIAL TAX DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE IN THAT AREA.
THAT AREA WILL HELP FUND THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND THE
FUTURE RIDERSHIP FOR NOT ONLY THE EXISTING STREETCAR BUT
ALSO THE EXPANSION.
THESE ARE CREATIVE WAYS THAT, AGAIN, EXPANSION WHEN FIRST
CREATED.
ALREADY EXISTS FOR THE EXISTING STREETCAR BUT ONLY PERTAINS
TO BUSINESSES.
DOESN'T PERTAIN TO RESIDENCES.

BACK WHEN THIS WAS DONE, ALL THERE WAS WERE WAREHOUSES IN
CHANNELSIDE.
WATER STREET DIDN'T EXIST.
GASWORX DIDN'T EXIST.
NOBODY WAS REALLY LIVING AT THE TIME IN YBOR CITY.
PROPERTIES WERE REALLY LOW INCOME.
THERE WASN'T A LOT OF REVENUE.
THERE WASN'T ANY BIG CONDOS IN DOWNTOWN EITHER.
AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAYS, ONLY RESIDENTS DOWN HERE WERE
THE ONES IN THE JAIL.
NOW WE HAVE THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
A LOT OF THIS WE CAN ATTRIBUTE TO THINGS LIKE THE STREETCAR
MOVING THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS IS A SHORT-TERM MEASURE.
THERE IS A LONG-TERM GAME PLAN FOR VIABILITY AND FUNDING AND
TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS.
I THINK IT IS THE TYPE OF MODEL, WE'VE SEEN WHAT THE
GOVERNOR IS DOING WITH THE PROPOSAL OF PROPERTY TAXES.
WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT MORE CREATIVE WAYS TO DO THESE THINGS
AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WITH THAT, I GLADLY MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CRA BOARD TO
APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF CRA FUNDS FROM THE FOUR CRAs
WITHIN THE EQUIVALENT AMOUNT THAT WAS PRESENTED WHICH I'M
NOT GOING TO TRY TO RE-CREATE BECAUSE THERE WAS A DOLLAR
DIFFERENCE, AS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD THIS MORNING TO

AUTHORIZE THAT TRANSFER FOR FISCAL YEAR '24.
10:49:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND, IF I MAY WITH RETROACTIVE.
10:49:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHY I SAID FISCAL YEAR 24.
10:49:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
FOLLOWED WITH A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED.
10:49:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AYE.
10:49:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
10:49:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AYE FOR THE SECOND ONE.
10:49:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AYE FOR NOT.
MOTION CARRIES WITH BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
I'M SORRY.
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA VOTING NO.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
MOTION FOR APPROVALS 10 THROUGH 18?
10:49:36AM >> SO MOVED.
10:49:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
UNDER NEW BUSINESS, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:49:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NONE.
THANK YOU.
10:49:46AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE NONE.
10:49:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. WILLITS, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY MISS YOU.
HOPE YOU COME BACK.
YOU AND YOUR WIFE ARE FANTASTIC INDIVIDUALS.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
BEST OF LUCK, SIR.
10:50:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:50:11AM >> ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
10:50:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GO AHEAD.
WHILE SEAS THINKING, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:50:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
10:50:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CARLSON?
10:50:23AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST SOMETHING QUICK, IF THE LEGISLATURE
ENDS CRAs, I'VE ALWAYS SAID CRAs ARE FOR LAZY POLICY
MAKERS BECAUSE WE STILL COLLECT THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAXES.
WE CAN REALLOCATE IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CFO TO COME TO US
AT THE JUNE 12th MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
CONTINUING TO MEASURE THE EAST TAMPA CRA OR VIRTUAL CRA
FUNDS IN THE EVENT THE LEGISLATURE ENDS THE CRA EARLY.
SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT IF THEY PUT A CAP ON IT AND SAY
YOU CAN'T SPEND ANYTHING MORE, WHATEVER THE MECHANISM THE
CFO IS USING TO MEASURE WHAT THAT TAX INCREMENT IS INSIDE
EAST TAMPA AS AN EXAMPLE, WE CAN CONTINUE TO MEASURE THAT
AND THEN WE COULD HAND THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY COUNCIL CAN CONTINUE TO ALLOCATE IT IN EAST TAMPA.
IF THE CRA GOES AWAY, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T HAVE THE
MONEY.
WE STILL HAVE THE SAME MONEY AND CAN STILL ALLOCATE IT IN
THE SAME WAYS.
THE COUNTY HAS A DECLINING SCALE OF WHAT THEY ARE
PARTICIPATING IN IN OTHER PLACES.
WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO DECIDE, BUT
WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO ALLOCATE THE CITY'S MONEY IF -- AND
DOWNTOWN THE COUNTY IS NOT PROVIDING ANYTHING.
10:51:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OUR CRA ATTORNEY IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT
SOME CRA MATTERS FROM A LEGISLATIVE STANDPOINT.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:52:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE JUST BECAUSE
IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
I WOULD BE FINE TO PUT IT AS A PLACEHOLDER AND THEN TAKE IT
AWAY IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
I ALSO DON'T WANT STAFF TO START THAT.
BUT I'M ALSO NOT OKAY WITH JUST DOING EAST TAMPA.
THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE OTHER CRAs.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE, WE'LL DO ALL OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO
DO THEM.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND THAT DEBATE AND THAT'S
PROBABLY WHAT THE STATE WANTS US TO DO IS TO START FIGHTING

ABOUT THIS.
I WOULDN'T SUPPORT ONE CRA OVER THE OTHERS UNTIL I HEAR FROM
THE CACs AND THE TYPES OF THINGS THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT GOING ON IF THEY DO AWAY.
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT JUST DOING AWAY WITH CRAs, THEY ARE
DOING AWAY WITH SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS.
WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT FOR TRANSIT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING AWAY WITH SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS.
10:53:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PROPOSING.
10:53:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PROPOSING.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
THAT IS THE HOPE THEY HAVE.
I DO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF LOOKING FORWARD.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO IT YET.
I WOULD ONLY SUPPORT IF IT'S EVERYONE.
10:53:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ARE YOU A SECOND?
10:53:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
HERE'S WHY I'M DOING IT.
I SUPPORT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S STATEMENT THAT WE OUGHT TO
LOOK AT MORE CRAs.
I THINK THIS IS BEING DONE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CORRECT ME
IF I'M WRONG, CURRENTLY EAST TAMPA IS THE ONE THAT'S MOST
ACUTE IN TERMS OF NEED.
I THINK.
10:53:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M HAPPY TO INSERT THE WORD EXAMPLE.

THAT'S WHAT MY INTENTION WAS THAT EAST TAMPA WOULD BE AN
EXAMPLE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO STUDY ALL OF THEM.
I DON'T THINK IT IS A LOT OF WORK BECAUSE THE MEASUREMENT
MECHANISM IS ALREADY THERE.
THE QUESTION IS, HOW COULD YOU CONTINUE THAT IF THIS
HAPPENS.
SURELY, IF THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING, WE CAN CANCEL IT.
YOU ALL KNOW I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF CONTINUING THE
DOWNTOWN OR CHANNEL DISTRICT CRAs.
WE CAN STILL SPEND MONEY IN THOSE TWO PLACES BUT WE WOULDN'T
HAVE ALL THAT MONEY TRAPPED.
BUT WEST TAMPA AND THE PLACES THAT NEED IT, WE COULD
CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS.
WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT SPENDING MONEY IN OTHER AREAS.
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE
CONTINUED MEASURING.
10:54:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I SEE IT AS A PLACE HOLDER.
I'M FINE WITH IT.
AGAIN, THE LEGISLATURE PROPOSES ALL SORTS OF WACKY THINGS
AND SOME OF THEM PASS, A LOT OF THEM PASS, MANY DON'T, THANK
GOD.
HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE ONE THAT DOESN'T.
BUT AS A PLACE HOLDER, IF IT DOESN'T PASS.
I'LL SECOND UNDER THE IDEA THAT IF IT DOESN'T PASS,
WITHDRAWN, MOVE FORWARD, THAT'S GOOD.

I'M FINE WITH IT.
10:54:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS FAR AS LIKE A CONCEPT AND IDEA,
THROWING IT OUT THERE TO BE READY FOR IT.
AS WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON AND SEEING MORE AND
MORE IN TALLAHASSEE, THEY ARE FLOODING THE ZONE.
THEY INUNDATE US WITH STUFF AND WANT US TO CHASE THINGS,
THEY WANT US TO GET DISTRACTED BY STUFF.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE AWARE.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SPEND CITY RESOURCES.
DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SPEND CRA MONEY BECAUSE POTENTIALLY
WE'RE CHASING OUR TAIL.
THE NEXT CRAZY THING IS COMING UP TOMORROW.
THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW, THREE MORE CRAZY THINGS.
THIS IS THE WORLD WE'RE GOING TO BE LIVING IN FOR THE NEXT X
NUMBER OF YEARS.
I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY DEVOTE ANY RESOURCES TO IT.
AGAIN, I THINK RAISING THE AWARENESS OF IT AND BEING OUT
THERE, THIS IS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM, BUT LET'S NOT CHASE OUR
TAIL.
10:55:43AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE REASON WHY I PICKED EAST TAMPA, YOU
HEARD THE CONCERNS BY THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE SPENT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS GETTING ALL THE PIECES IN
PLACE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD FASTER.
I SHARE FRUSTRATION THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MOVE
FASTER, BUT NOW WE ARE MOVING, AND I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE

SOME HOPE THAT THERE IS SOME POSSIBILITY OF CONTINUING IN
CASE THAT SITUATION HAPPENS.
BUT WE HAVE ONE THING IN TERMS OF FEDERAL AS WELL, YOU ALL
PROBABLY KNOW JUST A DAY OR TWO AFTER INAUGURATION, ABRUPTLY
ENDED THE CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION ABOUT RENTING WHILE
BLACK.
THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES THAT WE'LL BE DEALING WITH, BUT
IT IS OUR DUTY TO TRY TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY AND HELP THE
COMMUNITY TO GROW STRONGER WITH THE PLANS THAT THEY HAVE FOR
THEMSELVES.
10:56:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE TALKED ABOUT THE GATOR BUILDING AND
TALKED ABOUT THE EXPENDITURES, I THINK THE AWARENESS OF
STAFF THAT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE TO DO THESE THINGS.
WE NEED TO CLOSE THESE DEALS.
WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON THE PROJECTS.
LET'S LIGHT A FIRE THAT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THE INVESTMENTS.
WE'VE GOT TO DO THOSE THINGS.
I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROJECT AND THE OPPORTUNITIES,
THE REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IN THAT AREA.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO CLOSE THOSE DEALS.
CEDRIC IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GUIDE THAT FORWARD WITH HIS
INCREDIBLE STAFF AND LET'S GET IT DONE.
10:57:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD
MEMBER CARLSON.

SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ALL THOSE OPPOSED?
10:57:27AM >> NAY.
10:57:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION CARRIES WITH HENDERSON AND
CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
BECAUSE I REPRESENT ALL OF THE CRAs EXCEPT ONE WITHIN MY
DISTRICT, SO I DON'T WANT TO JUMP TO JUST SAY YES TO DREW
PARK IS THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING NO.
ANYTHING ELSE, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON?
10:57:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
10:57:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
I HAVE A FEW THINGS.
DO I HAND THE GAVEL TO YOU?
FIRST OF ALL, DARLENE, ARE YOU PRESENT?
YES, YOU ARE.
SITTING UP FRONT.
WE COMPLETED OUR INTERVIEWS FOR THE CRA DIRECTOR.
WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
WE WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT REGARDING THAT PROCESS ALONG
WITH MY INTERN, MS. ALEXANDRIA FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
FLORIDA IS GOING TO BE ASSISTING WITH MAKING THIS
INFORMATION PUBLIC SO THAT THE BOARD CAN DECIDE HOW WE WANT
TO PROCEED WITH MAKING EITHER A DECISION TODAY OR BRINGING
IN THE TOP ONE, TWO FOLKS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
DARLENE WILL SHARE THIS INFORMATION KIND OF LIKE HOW
MS. SHIRLEY DOES.
THANK YOU, DARLENE.
10:58:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
DARLENE JOHNSON, LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO CHAIR HENDERSON,
DISTRICT 5.
JUST A QUICK RECAP, IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE, DURING THE TIME
FRAME OF FEBRUARY 13 TO MARCH 6, EACH BOARD MEMBER HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW THE TOP FOUR CANDIDATES FOR THE CRA
DIRECTOR'S POSITION AND PROVIDE CHAIR HENDERSON'S OFFICE
WITH THEIR TOP THREE CHOICES.
WHAT WE'LL DO FIRST, I WILL ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE ACTUAL
CHOICES FROM EACH CHAIR MEMBER AND I'LL START WITH OUR FIRST
ONE IS FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN SEE IT, AGAIN, FOR PUBLIC RECORDS.
THE FIRST CHOICE, CEDRIC McCRAY.
SECOND, JENNIFER MATTHEWS AND THE THIRD CHRISTOPHER MOORE.
OUR SECOND BOARD MEMBER, MANISCALCO, FIRST CHOICE, CEDRIC
McCRAY.
SECOND CHOICE, LISA NICHOLS.
THIRD CHOICE, CHRISTOPHER MOORE.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK'S FIRST CHOICE, JENNIFER MATTHEWS,
SECOND CHOICE, CEDRIC McCRAY, THIRD, CHRISTOPHER MOORE.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, FIRST CHOICE CEDRIC McCRAY, SECOND

JENNIFER MATTHEWS, THIRD, CHRISTOPHER MOORE.
CHAIR HENDERSON, FIRST CHOICE, CEDRIC McCRAY, SECOND
JENNIFER MATTHEWS, THIRD, LISA NICHOLS.
FOR THE RECORD, FOURTH, CHRISTOPHER MOORE.
CHAIR MEMBER MIRANDA, FIRST CHOICE CEDRIC McCRAY.
SECOND CHRISTOPHER MOORE.
THIRD, JENNIFER MATTHEWS.
AND BOARD MEMBER VIERA, FIRST CHOICE CEDRIC McCRAY.
SECOND, LISA NICHOLS.
THIRD, JENNIFER MATTHEWS.
FOURTH, CHRISTOPHER MOORE.
ALL SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS.
EACH BOARD MEMBER SHOULD HAVE A RECAP OF THE CHOICES.
THESE ARE THE FOLLOWING RANKINGS.
RANKED NUMBER ONE IS CEDRIC McCRAY WITH SIX BOARD MEMBERS
MAKING HIM THEIR FIRST CHOICE AND ONE BOARD MEMBER MAKING
HIM THE SECOND CHOICE.
SECOND RANKING WAS JENNIFER MATTHEWS.
AND THE THIRD WAS CHRISTOPHER MOORE.
RECAP AND OVERVIEW OF ALL THE RANKINGS, OR THE CHOICES FOR
THE CRA DIRECTOR'S POSITION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO CHAIR
HENDERSON'S OFFICE.
11:01:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, DARLENE, FOR THE INFORMATION.
NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS AND ONE OF THE GOALS WAS FOR US TO BE
VERY TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE HAVE DONE THAT AND RECOGNIZING OUR SCORES PUBLICLY
WITH OUR SIGNATURES.
THANK YOU, ALEXANDRIA, MY INTERN, AS WELL AS MY LEGISLATIVE
AIDE, DARLENE JOHNSON FOR PROVIDING EVERYONE WITH THAT
INFORMATION.
HOW WE PROCEED NOW IS UP TO US.
WE CAN MAKE A DECISION TODAY OR IF WE WANT TO BRING BACK
APPLICANTS.
I'LL RECOGNIZE BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:02:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY DISPARITY
IN THAT THE SIX OUT OF SEVEN RANKED OUR ACTING DIRECTOR AS
THEIR NUMBER ONE CHOICE.
SO I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF EFFICIENCY, WOULD IT BE
APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CHAIR OF THE CRA
TO ENTER NEGOTIATIONS WITH CEDRIC McCRAY WITH THE CITY OF
TAMPA?
11:02:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
11:02:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T HIRE THEM.
HR IS THE ONE THAT HAS --
11:02:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GET THAT.
SHOULDN'T SHE BE THE LIAISON SINCE SHE IS THE CHAIR.
I DIRECT THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE CRA ENTER NEGOTIATIONS
BETWEEN ACTING DIRECTOR CEDRIC McCRAY AND THE CITY OF
TAMPA HR DIVISION TO OFFER MR. McCRAY THE POSITION OF
DIRECTOR.

11:03:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN FOLLOWED BY A
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
YES, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:03:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE KNOWN CEDRIC --
WHERE IS HE?
I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR A LONG TIME SINCE HE WAS WORKING WITH
FRANK REDDICK.
I WAS SAD HE LEFT AND HAPPY HE CAME BACK.
THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT BUILDING BLOCKS THAT ERICA IN
PARTICULAR, WE HAVE TO GIVE HER A LOT OF KUDOS FOR PUSHING
THIS FORWARD, BUT ALSO ALIS AND NICOLE AND OTHERS WHO PUT
THE BUILDING BLOCKS IN PLACE.
IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GET TO THIS POINT WHERE WE HAVE
THE STRATEGY.
BUT I THINK WHAT CEDRIC HAS DONE, THE DIFFICULTY OF THIS
POSITION IS NEGOTIATING BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CRA.
BECAUSE THEY ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES BUT RELATED AND I THINK
HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF DOING THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT, IF HE ENDS UP
TAKING THE POSITION, IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE BUILD A CRA
CULTURE WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT THEM AND THAT EVEN
THOUGH THEY ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY, BECAUSE THE BUCK
STOPS WITH US, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A POSITIVE CRA

CULTURE.
I THINK HE CAN DO THAT.
I THINK HE HAS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STAFF AND HE'S
BEEN MANAGING PROJECTS.
I WANT TO SAY JENNIFER MATTHEWS, I WAS INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED
WITH HER, AS IT SOUNDS LIKE MANY OF YOU WERE.
SHE UNDERSTANDS THE OUTCOMES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
YOU ALL KNOW IN GRADUATE SCHOOL I STUDIED UNDER PROFESSOR
WILLIAM JULIUS WILSON, RACE ON CLASS AND POVERTY.
SHE TOOK A WHOLE SEMINAR SERIES ON THAT AND WENT DEEP INTO
ALL THAT STUFF.
IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING AND EXCITING TO TALK WITH SOMEBODY
WHO SPEAKS THE SAME LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT.
I HOPE SHE COMES BACK TO THE CITY OF TAMPA IN SOME CAPACITY.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO COULD FOCUS ON THE
ISSUES OF POVERTY IN OUR CITY.
I THINK SHE WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
SHE WOULD BE GREAT IN THIS POSITION ALSO.
IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO CHOOSE BETWEEN NUMBER ONE
AND NUMBER TWO.
BUT CEDRIC HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I SPOKE TO LISA, BUT CHRISTOPHER MOORE
ALSO IS EXCELLENT.
HIS BACKGROUND IS A LOT IN DEVELOPMENT AND REAL ESTATE.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN MANAGE THE

RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CITY AND CRA, MANAGE A POSITIVE TEAM,
WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO THINK ABOUT THE OUTCOMES
WE'RE TRYING TO REACH IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE GOAL IS NOT TO BUILD BUILDINGS.
IT'S TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE AND
DISTRICTS.
11:06:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:06:08AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANTED TO GIVE KUDOS TO EVERYBODY WHO APPLIED.
I THOUGHT EVERYBODY WAS WONDERFUL AND EVERYTHING.
THERE IS A SAYING, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST NOT BROKE, IT'S WORKING VERY WELL.
MR. McCRAY IS JUST A STELLAR PUBLIC SERVANT, A STELLAR
MAN, A STELLAR PERSON.
YOU KNOW, JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN THIS POSITION
CONTINUE.
I THINK YOU'LL DO A GREAT JOB.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WILLIAM JULIUS WILSON.
WHAT IS THAT BOOK?
I REMEMBER THAT.
KUDOS.
11:06:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WANT TO -- AS THE CHAIR, I APPRECIATE
YOU ALL BEING PATIENT WITH US IN THE PROCESS AND ALSO REALLY
GIVING KUDOS TO ALL THE APPLICANTS.
IT WAS WONDERFUL GETTING TO KNOW ALL OF THEM AND THEIR

BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCES.
FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER
MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:07:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:07:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:07:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:07:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:07:16AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:07:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:07:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ABSOLUTELY.
YES.
11:07:20AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:07:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE A FEW BRIEF WORDS WITH US AT 11:07.
YOU HAVE UNTIL 11:08?
[ LAUGHTER ]
11:07:37AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, NO.
THANK YOU.
GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEVEL OF SUPPORT AND PATIENCE WITH
US AS WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO COMPLETE BUILDING THE PLAN
YOU'VE SET FORTH.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE FOLKS HERE AND THE

FOLKS ON THE SECOND FLOOR ON BOTH SIDES.
LIKE I SAY, WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD WORK
FOR THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREAS.
THANK YOU.
11:08:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:08:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD YOU PLEASE -- I DON'T THINK IT
REQUIRES A MOTION -- BUT WORK WITH HR.
APPLICANTS THAT WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL, TO GIVE THEM TIMELY
NOTIFICATION.
SO MANY TIMES THEY DO NOT GET INFORMATION.
11:08:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I'LL MAKE SURE WHEN I ADDRESS THAT.
THANK YOU.
ATTORNEY SHEPHARD, ARE YOU ONLINE?
11:08:29AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I AM.
DO YOU WANT ME TO TURN ON THE CAMERA OR TALK?
11:08:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHATEVER IS YOUR PREFERENCE.
YOU CAN TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
I THINK THAT IS THE PRESENCE OF ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
ATTORNEY SHEPHARD, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SET THE CLOCK FOR THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.
THE UPDATES COMING OUT OF TALLAHASSEE, ANYTHING THAT YOU
WANT TO SHARE REGARDING CRA LEGISLATIVELY FOR THE PUBLIC AS
WELL AS FOR THE BOARD THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US AT THIS
TIME?

11:09:00AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
WELL, THE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY IS PRAY.
IF YOU LIKE CRAs THIS IS NOT A GOOD YEAR.
IT EXPLAINS WHY EVERY TIME I'M ASKING TO SPEAK ON THE
PROJECT AT FRA AND VARIOUS OTHER PLACES, I EXPLAIN THE
IMPORTANCE OF STAYING IN THE GUIDELINES SET BY THE
LEGISLATURE BECAUSE THEY ARE LITERALLY ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A
WAY TO END US.
YESTERDAY AT 4:00, 5:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, A NEW BILL WAS
FILED.
I DIDN'T THINK IT COULD GET WORSE.
THEY ACTUALLY MADE IT A LITTLE BIT WORSE IN THAT THEY
CHANGED WHAT WAS BASICALLY A LINE IN THE EARLIER BILL THAT
SAID THAT THE PROJECTS COULD NO LONGER BE INTRODUCED AFTER
JUNE -- OR JULY OF 2025.
INSTEAD, THEY CHANGED IT TO THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE, IT'S
VERY BRIEF.
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MAY NOT INITIATE ANY NEW
PROJECTS OR ISSUE ANY NEW DEBT ON OR AFTER OCTOBER 1, 2025,
FOR PURPOSES OF THE SUBSECTION AND TERM NEW PROJECT MEANS
ANY PROJECT FOR WHICH THERE IS NO APPROPRIATION IN THE
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY'S BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
SEPTEMBER 30th, 2025, OR FOR WHICH THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY HAS NOT RETAINED APPROPRIATED FUNDS
UNDER THE STATUTE FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2025.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY GOT IT IN YOUR BUDGET, YOU WOULD

HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND YOU'D HAVE TO GET IT
STARTED BEFORE THIS TERMINATION DATE, WHICH EFFECTIVELY, IF
THIS WERE TO PASS, IT ENDS CRAs AS YOU KNOW THEM.
NOW, I LIKE TO OFFER SOME HOPEFUL NEWS.
I AM LED TO BELIEVE BY FRA LOBBYISTS AND OTHERS THAT THERE
MAY BE AN ABILITY TO GET THIS PORTION, WHICH IS BASICALLY
THE DEATH SENTENCE, REMOVED FROM THE FINAL BILL AND INSTEAD
END UP WITH A BILL THAT SIMPLY SAYS ALL CRAs MUST
TERMINATE BY 2045.
THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT WOULD BE WITH THOSE THAT HAVE
BONDS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PAID, IT ALLOWS THE AGENCIES TO
CONTINUE TO PAY THE BONDS BUT IT STILL WOULD EFFECTIVELY SAY
THAT IN OUR FUTURE CRAs WILL GO AWAY.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE BRINGS.
SAYING IT GOES AWAY AT A DATE THAT FAR IN THE FUTURE MEANS
THEY COULD COME BACK AND CHANGE THEIR MINDS, BUT THIS IS NOT
GOOD.
I WOULD STRONGLY URGE YOU, IF YOU ARE A FAN OF CRAs, AS I
AM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE GOOD WORK THEY DO, WHICH I DO, IF
YOU REACH OUT TO YOUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION, EXPLAIN TO
THEM THE GOD WORKS THAT HAPPEN IN CRAs AROUND THE STATE
ALL THE TIME, YOU CAN ACKNOWLEDGE IT IS A FACT THAT SOME
CRAs, I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE TO TALK TO THEM ALL THE TIME,
ABUSE THE PRIVILEGE OF CRAs, AND THAT'S WHY WE KEEP
RUNNING OUR HEADS AGAINST THE WALL EVERY LEGISLATIVE

SESSION.
LITERALLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK, SPENT
THE WEEKEND TRYING TO DRAFT ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE THAT MIGHT
BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE LEGISLATURE, BUT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE JUST
HOPEFUL AS MUCH AS WE CAN BE THAT THIS SORT OF DEATH PENALTY
WILL BE TAKEN OFF THE TABLE AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.
I AM LED TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A REASONABLE CHANCE THAT
THIS MIGHT GO AWAY, THIS PORTION OF IT THAT I JUST READ, BUT
THAT THE OVERALL END OF CRAs IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET
THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION.
AGAIN, I'VE SEEN BAD DAYS COME AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN
DISAPPEAR, SO WHO KNOWS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF FANS OF CRAs OUT THERE.
IF YOU ARE NOT A FAN AND YOU ARE THE RIGHT PERSON IN
TALLAHASSEE, THAT MAY BE ALL THAT MATTERS.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
11:12:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, ATTORNEY SHEPHARD.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:12:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HONEST WHILE ALSO TRYING TO
SEE LIGHT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT JUST WITH
EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY BUT ALSO YOUR HOPE.
OUR CRA, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BONDS, DO WE?

WE HAVEN'T BONDED ANYTHING.
MOST OF THE STUFF WE PAY FOR IN INCREMENTS.
SO THAT PART DOESN'T IMPACT US.
BUT ALSO, JUST TO CLARIFY, FOR THE PUBLIC, WE ARE NOT
BONDING ANY CRA MONEY.
EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING, WE ARE PAY-GO.
WE ARE JUST SLOWLY ROLLING.
BUT ALSO, I DID -- MY OTHER QUESTION AND JUST TO EITHER, OUR
LAST CRA ENDS OR CURRENTLY ENDS WHEN?
11:13:56AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
2043.
11:13:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WE WOULD STAY WITHIN THOSE BOUNDS AS IT
IS.
I JUST WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT IF WE ARE LUCKY TO
GET THIS, WE WILL BE WITHIN THE BOUNDS AND WE CAN STILL
CONTINUE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY.
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE CHOSE ATTORNEY SHEPHARD
BECAUSE HE IS SO ABSOLUTELY UP TO DATE WITH EVERYTHING THE
CRAs ARE DOING.
IF YOU ATTENDED THE CAC MEETING, APPARENTLY I WAS TOLD, YOU
SCARED THEM GOOD, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STAY
WITHIN THE BOUNDS AND WE HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THE RULES.
I BELIEVE OUR BOARD AND OUR STAFF HAS BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT
THAT.
WE DON'T LOVE IT, BUT WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE WE'RE PLAYING
WITHIN THE RULES.

I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO BE SHEPHERDED BY SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
I WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO FEEL SAFE AND COMFORTED IN KNOWING
THAT OUR CRAs ARE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
I WANT TO THANK BOTH MR. SHEPHARD AND OUR STAFF FOR MAKING
SURE THAT IS THE CASE SO WE ARE NOT ONE OF THE BAD ACTORS.
11:15:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON FOLLOWED BY BOARD
MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:15:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFF-LINE, SOMETIMES
SUBSTITUTE LANGUAGE IS PUT IN THAT CHANGES THE NATURE OF A
BILL OR HOW IT IS EARLY ON.
IF I WAS WORKING DOING LOBBYING OR ADVOCACY FOR FRA, ONE OF
THE THINGS I WOULD PROPOSE IN PLACE OF THIS IS THAT EVERY
CRA DISTRICT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REEVALUATION TO SEE
IF IT WOULD TODAY QUALIFY AS A CRA.
THAT WOULD KEEP THE ONES WHERE THERE'S REAL NEED ALIVE BUT
THE LEGISLATURE WOULD SHUT DOWN ONES LIKE DOWNTOWN TAMPA
THAT SHOULDN'T CONTINUE.
IT WOULD BRING MORE MONEY INTO CITIES OR COUNTIES BY
ELIMINATING THE ONES THAT DON'T REALLY MEET THE DEFINITION
ANYMORE.
IT'S JUST A COMPROMISE THING SO COULD HAVE A WIN WHILE STILL
-- LIKE THE ONES LIKE WEST TAMPA AND EAST TAMPA CONTINUE.
11:16:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.

11:16:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO THANK THE LEGISLATURE FOR
FOLLOWING THE TAMPA MODEL.
11:16:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FINALLY, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
WILL SAY, AT THE VERY TOP OF BECOMING THE BOARD CHAIR OUR
FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE AS A BOARD, WE CLEANED UP A LOT OF
THINGS UNANIMOUSLY WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION OF CRAs LIKE
THE SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO
CRAs AND SLUM AND BLIGHT.
I'M HAVING A BRAIN FREEZE.
THE SPECIAL EVENTS, ACTIVITIES, THINGS THAT DO NOT HAVE
ANYTHING TO DO WITH SLUM AND BLIGHT THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO
BE FACING THAT CRITICISM FROM THE STATE BECAUSE WE HAVE
CLEANED THOSE THINGS UP.
SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ON OUR BEHALF, TOO, OF BEING
DILIGENT IN THAT.
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
MOTION -- SO MOVED BY MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THIS MEETING IS DISMISSED AT 11:17.
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