TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MARCH 13, 2025, 5:01 P.M.
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05:07:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
05:07:08PM ORDER.
05:07:08PM AT THIS TIME, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
05:07:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:07:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:07:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
05:07:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:07:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:07:17PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:07:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HENDERSON IS HERE.
05:07:25PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE: FOR THE RECORD,
05:07:29PM CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:07:30PM TO CLEAR THE AGENDA, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, THE APPLICANT HAS
05:07:36PM REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR
05:07:39PM JULY 24, 2025.
05:07:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
05:07:52PM FLORIDA.
05:07:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT YOU SAID.
05:07:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:07:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE FIRST CONTINUANCE FOR THE ITEM?
05:07:58PM >> CORRECT.
05:07:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:08:00PM OPPOSED.
05:08:00PM YES, SIR, NEXT.
05:08:02PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE: LAST ITEM AGENDA ITEM 5, NUMBER REZ 25-06.
05:08:07PM THIS ITEM WAS MISNOTICED AND REQUESTING THAT IT BE REMOVED
05:08:10PM FROM THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
05:08:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 5.
05:08:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
05:08:24PM WE WILL DO ITEMS ONE AND TWO AND THEN TAKE A RECESS IN
05:08:29PM BETWEEN BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WE WILL BRING UP.
05:08:32PM QUASI-JUDICIAL.
05:08:38PM IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ON ONE OR TWO, RAISE YOUR HAND.
05:08:42PM [SWEARING IN]
05:08:49PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE: THANK MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THE RECORD,
05:08:53PM CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE.
05:08:55PM THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 9220, 9222, AND 9224 N. HYALEAH
05:09:08PM ROAD AND FOLIO 141810.0100 FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
05:09:10PM 60, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24, AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
05:09:14PM 35 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
05:09:17PM ATTACHED AND SEMI-DETACHED.
05:09:19PM I WILL TURN IT OVER NOW TO JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
05:09:22PM COMMISSION.
05:09:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
05:09:23PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: GOOD EVENING, JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR
05:09:30PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:09:30PM IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT FOR ITEM NUMBER -- FOR
05:09:35PM THE FIRST ONE, REZ 24-11,
05:09:38PM NORTH OF EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD, AN EMPHASIS CORRIDOR WITH A
05:09:42PM VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES ALONG IT AND SOME MULTIFAMILY
05:09:46PM USES IN IF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
05:09:47PM AND WHERE EAST -- SORRY, WEST OF NORTH HYALEAH ROAD, ALONG
05:09:55PM NORTH HYALEAH ROAD.
05:09:56PM THIS LARGER PARCEL, HERE, AT 1.768 ACRES.
05:10:02PM AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, IT IS RARE THAT WE SEE ZONINGS OF THIS
05:10:06PM SIZE IN THE CITY.
05:10:07PM USUALLY THE PARCELS ARE A LITTLE SMALLER.
05:10:09PM RARITY FOR NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT THREE FUTURE LAND USE
05:10:13PM CATEGORIES AT RESIDENTIAL-10, RESIDENTIAL-35, AND
05:10:18PM RESIDENTIAL-50.
05:10:19PM SO STAFF CAREFULLY REVIEWED THIS.
05:10:22PM AND HAD THE APPLICANT PUT THE DELINEATIONS ON THE SITE PLAN,
05:10:26PM THE ACREAGE FOR EACH ON THE SITE PLAN, AND WE MADE SURE IT
05:10:29PM WAS IN LINE WITH THE DENSITY SO THAT PART WAS CONSISTENT
05:10:32PM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:10:33PM THIS WILL PROVIDE HOUSING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:10:36PM IT IS IN SCALE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:10:37PM THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO, YOU KNOW, RESPECTED THE FUTURE LAND
05:10:42PM USE BOUNDARIES ON THE SITE PLAN AS WELL, AS WELL AS THE
05:10:45PM CONNECTING UNIT ENTRANCES AND THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
05:10:47PM AND, AGAIN, THIS WILL PROVIDE HOUSING ON UNDERUTILIZED LAND
05:10:52PM TO ENSURE AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET
05:10:55PM THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S FUTURE AND PRESENT POPULATION.
05:10:58PM WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING IN THE TERRACE PARK
05:11:02PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:11:02PM THAT'S IT FOR ME.
05:11:04PM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
05:11:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS.
05:11:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:11:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:11:11PM A FORMALITY.
05:11:13PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
05:11:15PM I SEE NONE.
05:11:16PM YES, SIR, COME ON UP.
05:11:17PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE: THANK YOU, AGAIN,
05:11:26PM CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:11:28PM I WILL START WITH THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE IN THE
05:11:31PM SURROUNDING AREA.
05:11:32PM YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED ON THE AERIAL,
05:11:39PM LOCATED ON NORTH HYALEAH ROAD,
05:11:41PM WESTERN SIDE OF NORTH HYALEAH ROAD, AND NORTH OF EAST BUSCH
05:11:45PM BOULEVARD.
05:11:45PM NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
05:11:49PM USES.
05:11:49PM UNDEVELOPED RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND STORMWATER RETENTION.
05:11:52PM IMMEDIATELY SOUTH, WE HAVE A PARCEL THAT IS ZONED PD FOR
05:11:56PM AIR-CONDITIONED STORAGE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER
05:11:59PM CONSTRUCTION.
05:11:59PM ALSO SOUTH, AS WELL AS WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WE HAVE
05:12:04PM A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
05:12:06PM AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, ACROSS NORTH HYALEAH ROAD
05:12:10PM IS VACANT LAND AS WELL AS PROPERTY ZONED CG.
05:12:13PM THERE ARE ALSO CG ZONED USES ALONG BOULEVARD EAST BOULEVARD.
05:12:23PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
05:12:30PM THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 18 UNITS WITHIN THREE BUILDINGS.
05:12:35PM 16 OF THE UNITS ARE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
05:12:39PM TWO ARE SEMI-DETACHED.
05:12:40PM BUILDINGS ONE AND THREE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
05:12:44PM AND BUILDING TWO IS SEMI-DETACHED.
05:12:47PM ALL THE UNITS ARE ORIENTED TOWARD INTERNAL PRIVATE ROAD WITH
05:12:51PM PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS PROCEEDED THAT AND CONNECTED TO A
05:12:53PM SIDEWALK PROPOSED ON NORTH HYALEAH ROAD.
05:12:57PM VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED BY NORTH HYALEAH
05:13:00PM ROAD.
05:13:00PM 41 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND 41 SPACES PROVIDED.
05:13:04PM DRIVEWAY PARKING IS PROVIDED FOR EACH UNIT.
05:13:07PM VISITOR PARKING IS LOCATED EAST OF BUILDING TWO.
05:13:10PM DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES 26,235 SQUARE FEET OF GREEN SPACE WHICH
05:13:18PM EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS -- THE REQUIRED 10,359 SQUARE FEET
05:13:23PM OF GREEN SPACE.
05:13:25PM TYPE I SHADE TREES ARE PROPOSED INTERNAL TO THE SITE AND
05:13:29PM ALONG NORTH HYALEAH ROAD.
05:13:31PM NEXT, WE HAVE SOME ELEVATIONS.
05:13:48PM THIS ELEVATION IS SPECIFICALLY FOR BUILDINGS ONE AND THREE.
05:13:52PM THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION FOR BUILDING ONE.
05:13:55PM THIS WILL BE THE ELEVATION FACING NORTH FOR BUILDING THREE.
05:13:58PM IT WILL BE FACING EAST.
05:14:01PM WE ALSO HAVE THE REAR ELEVATION FOR BUILDING ONE AND FACING
05:14:05PM SOUTH.
05:14:06PM AND FOR BUILDING THREE, IT WILL BE FACING WEST.
05:14:09PM WE ALSO HAVE WEST ELEVATIONS AS WELL AS RIGHT ELEVATIONS FOR
05:14:17PM THE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED BUILDINGS.
05:14:19PM NEXT, WE HAVE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY
05:14:30PM SEMI-DETACHED DWELLING UNITS.
05:14:33PM THIS IS FOR BUILDING TWO.
05:14:35PM WE HAVE THE FRONT ELEVATION WHICH FACES SOUTH.
05:14:37PM WE HAVE THE REAR ELEVATION THAT FACES NORTH.
05:14:39PM AND THEN THE LEFT ELEVATION FACES LEFT.
05:14:42PM AND THE RIGHT ELEVATION FACES EAST.
05:14:44PM NEXT, WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE ITSELF.
05:14:55PM WE HAVE THE FIRST ONE.
05:15:00PM SUBJECT SITE IN PRESENT CONDITIONS.
05:15:03PM NEXT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A PHOTO SHOWING FROM THE SUBJECT
05:15:09PM PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH.
05:15:10PM WE HAVE A PHOTO OF THE SUBJECTED -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO
05:15:17PM THE NORTH OF SUBJECT PROPERTY, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
05:15:20PM DWELLINGS.
05:15:20PM LOOKING SOUTH FROM THE SUBJECT SITE, YOU CAN SEE THE
05:15:23PM PROPERTY ZONED PD CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
05:15:28PM THIS SITE HAS A COMMERCIAL COMMUNICATIONS TOWER AS WELL.
05:15:32PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST ACROSS NORTH HYALEAH ROAD.
05:15:36PM A VACANT PARCEL.
05:15:38PM PROPERTIES ZONED CG.
05:15:40PM AN ADDITIONAL PHOTO LOOKING EAST, BUT MORE CENTRAL TO THE
05:15:43PM SITE, SO IT IS INTERNAL SHOT LOOKING -- LOOKING EAST TOWARD
05:15:48PM NORTH HYALEAH ROAD.
05:15:49PM AND THIS IS A PHOTO ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOOKING WEST.
05:15:55PM YOU CAN SEE SOME -- THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS
05:15:58PM LOCATED TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:16:02PM WE ALSO HAVE A PHOTO FROM INSIDE THAT MULTIFAMILY
05:16:08PM DEVELOPMENT.
05:16:08PM THIS WAS TAKEN ALONG ASHLEY LANE.
05:16:11PM IT IS ACTUALLY LOOKING EAST TOWARD THE SITE.
05:16:15PM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS MAIN BUILDING, YOU SEE IN THE
05:16:17PM PHOTO IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
05:16:19PM NEXT, WE HAVE A VIEW LOOKING NORTH ON NORTH HYALEAH ROAD.
05:16:24PM AND LOOKING SOUTH ON NORTH HYALEAH ROAD.
05:16:31PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THIS
05:16:36PM APPLICATION AND FOUND IT TO BE CONSISTENT.
05:16:37PM SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
05:16:40PM APPLICATION, MODIFICATIONS OF THE SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED ON
05:16:43PM THE SUBMITTED REVISION SHEET MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST
05:16:47PM AND SECOND READINGS.
05:16:48PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND STAND BY ALONG WITH
05:16:51PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:16:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
05:16:53PM ALL RIGHT.
05:16:53PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
05:16:54PM SIR.
05:16:56PM AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 1?
05:16:59PM YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
05:17:00PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:17:02PM YOU WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT IF YOU NEED ALL THAT
05:17:04PM TIME.
05:17:04PM AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
05:17:06PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:17:08PM >> CELIA KAUFMAN CARUTHERS ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
05:17:12PM STAFF'S PRESENTATIONS WERE VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
05:17:15PM SO WHAT I WILL SAY, WE FEEL THIS DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES A
05:17:18PM TRANSITION BETWEEN THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING TO THE NORTH
05:17:21PM AND MULTIFAMILY TO THE WEST, IN ADDITION OF A BUFFER BETWEEN
05:17:26PM THE HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND ADDITIONAL
05:17:29PM HOUSING IN THE AREA.
05:17:30PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:17:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
05:17:35PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:17:35PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.
05:17:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
05:17:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED.
05:17:43PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
05:17:46PM READ ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:17:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 1, REZ 24-113, ORDINANCE
05:17:53PM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION, AGAIN
05:17:59PM VICINITY OF 9220, 9222, AND 9224 N. HYALEAH ROAD AND FOLIO
05:18:06PM 141810.0100 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
05:18:09PM DESCRIBED FROM ZONING DISTRICT RS-60, RESIDENTIAL
05:18:13PM SINGLE-FAMILY, RM-4, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND RM-5,
05:18:19PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
05:18:22PM SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI-ATTACHED AND ATTACHED PROVIDING AN
05:18:24PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:18:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
05:18:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
05:18:28PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
05:18:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:18:31PM DO YOU NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE?
05:18:34PM WITH THE REVISION SHEET, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
05:18:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WITH THE REVISION SHEET, EXCUSE ME.
05:18:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:18:40PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:18:43PM >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION APRIL 3, 2025 AT 10
05:18:47PM A.M., LOCATED AT 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
05:18:54PM FLORIDA, 3062.
05:18:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:18:56PM SEE YOU ON THE 3rd.
05:18:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 2, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE TO
05:19:00PM RECUSE MYSELF.
05:19:01PM I MANAGE A PORTFOLIO THAT HAS A HOUSE WITHIN 250 FEET OF
05:19:06PM THIS DWELLING.
05:19:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WILL FILE THAT FORM.
05:19:09PM MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT US TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
05:19:12PM FILE THE FORM?
05:19:13PM MOTION IN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:19:16PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
05:19:18PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:19:19PM THE 8-B FORM.
05:19:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR.
05:19:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:19:23PM WE WILL SEE YOU SOON.
05:19:25PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE: FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE.
05:19:30PM NEXT IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, REZ-25-09, REQUEST TO REZONE
05:19:36PM 2520 WEST BEACH STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY RM-16
05:19:42PM TO RM-18.
05:19:43PM TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
05:19:45PM COMMISSION.
05:19:45PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH PLANNING COMMISSION
05:19:51PM STAFF.
05:19:51PM WE ARE LOCATED EAST -- WEST OF N. ARMENIA AVENUE THE WEST
05:19:56PM TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
05:19:57PM JUST NORTH OF WEST PALMETTO STREET.
05:20:05PM THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG NORTH ARMENIA AS I
05:20:09PM AM SURE YOU ARE AWARE ARE COMMERCIAL IN NATURE AND REFLECTED
05:20:12PM ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:20:14PM WEST BEACH STREET HAS DEVELOPED WITH A VARIETY OF
05:20:19PM RESIDENTIAL TYPE OF USES.
05:20:20PM FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL-20.
05:20:22PM AND IT IS RIGHT ADJACENT TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, WHICH
05:20:27PM IS THE RED.
05:20:27PM ONE OF OUR COMMERCIAL LAND USE CATEGORIES THAT RUNS UP AND
05:20:31PM DOWN N. ARMENIA AVENUE.
05:20:33PM RESIDENTIAL-20 IS ALONG WEST BEACH STREET.
05:20:37PM OUR MEDIUM DENSITY.
05:20:41PM ALLOWS ATTACHED, DETACHED, MULTIFAMILY USELESS.
05:20:44PM HOUSING AT A HEIGHT OF THE HIGHER DENSITY THAN THE
05:20:49PM CATEGORIES BELOW IT.
05:20:50PM THIS REZONING, THROUGH APPROVAL, WILL PERMIT THE
05:20:53PM CONSIDERATION OF MORE UNITS ON THE SITE.
05:20:55PM AND WE DID FIND THIS WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
05:20:58PM BECAUSE PROMOTES THE PLAN OF STRATEGY THAT ENCOURAGES INFILL
05:21:06PM WITHIN TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT SERVICES AND ON VACANT LAND.
05:21:09PM THE SITE IS VACANT AND WITHIN NORTH ARMENIA AND A TRANSIT
05:21:18PM CORRIDOR AND HAS TRANSIT SERVICES.
05:21:20PM DENSITY WAS CONSISTENT WITH THAT ALONG THE BLOCK.
05:21:23PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU.
05:21:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
05:21:28PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:21:29PM YES, SIR.
05:21:30PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE: AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD,
05:21:33PM CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:21:40PM GET A LITTLE CLOSER.
05:21:48PM AERIAL OF SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
05:21:51PM SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST BEACH
05:21:55PM STREET BETWEEN NORTH TAMPANIA AVENUE AND WEST -- SORRY,
05:22:01PM NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
05:22:02PM SUBJECT SITE IS DEVELOPED WITH THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
05:22:06PM DWELLING.
05:22:06PM ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
05:22:09PM GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE SUBJECT SITE AT 10,000 SQUARE FEET,
05:22:12PM THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS ALLOWED BE THE RM-18 ZONING
05:22:17PM WOULD BE FOUR DWELLINGS.
05:22:18PM NEXT, WE HAVE A SURVEY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:22:26PM IT IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
05:22:28PM LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST BEACH STREET.
05:22:31PM WILL BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
05:22:33PM THERE WE GO.
05:22:34PM IT HAS 100 FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE AND 100 FEET OF DEPTH.
05:22:41PM THE SUBJECT BLOCK BETWEEN NORTH TAMPANIA AND NORTH ARMENIA
05:22:52PM INCLUDE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS TO THE NORTH AND
05:22:54PM WEST, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS AND A VACANT PARCEL
05:22:57PM TO THE SOUTH.
05:22:58PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS TO THE EAST, AS WELL AS
05:23:00PM COMMERCIAL USES FURTHER EAST ALONG N. ARMENIA AVENUE.
05:23:03PM GIVEN THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES IN THE
05:23:08PM SURROUNDING AREA SURROUNDING SUBJECT BLOCK, THE
05:23:12PM REQUESTED RM-16 ZONING IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND
05:23:17PM IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT IN EXCEPTION 27-250 IN THE LAND
05:23:22PM DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT DESIGN
05:23:26PM STANDARDS.
05:23:26PM AND THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET THE STANDARDS AT THE TIME OF
05:23:28PM PERMITTING.
05:23:29PM THIS IS A EUCLIDIAN ZONING, NO SITE PLANS OR ELEVATIONS TO
05:23:34PM SNOW YOU.
05:23:35PM WE HAVE PHOTOS OF SUBJECT SITE AND THE SURROUND AREA THAT WE
05:23:38PM WOULD LIKE TO SHARE.
05:23:40PM FIRST PHOTO IS OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:23:43PM LOOKING ACROSS WEST BEACH STREET TO THE NORTH, SINGLE-FAMILY
05:23:49PM DETACHED DWELLINGS.
05:23:50PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE
05:23:53PM SUBJECT SITE.
05:23:54PM SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN ON WEST
05:23:59PM PALMETTO STREET.
05:23:59PM WE HAVE A VACANT PARCEL AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
05:24:02PM DWELLINGS.
05:24:03PM EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:24:07PM WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:24:08PM AND THIS LOOKING EAST ON WEST BEACH STREET TOWARD N. ARMENIA
05:24:19PM AVENUE.
05:24:19PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON WEST BEACH STREET.
05:24:22PM AND WE ALSO INCLUDED SOME PHOTOS SHOWING COMMERCIAL USES
05:24:24PM THAT ARE AT THE CORNER OF BEST BEACH STREET AND N. ARMENIA
05:24:33PM AVENUE.
05:24:33PM COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION
05:24:36PM AND FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
05:24:38PM AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:24:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
05:24:42PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:24:43PM APPLICANT, COME ON UP.
05:24:45PM HELLO, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:24:49PM >> JAMES LASCARA.
05:24:52PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
05:24:53PM THE OWNER AND APPLICANT FOR REZ 24-09 AT BEACH STREET
05:24:59PM TRANSITIONING FROM RM-16 TO RM-18.
05:25:03PM I LIVE DOWN THE STREET LESS THAN A MILE AWAY ON GRAY STREET
05:25:07PM IN THE SAME ZIP CODE.
05:25:08PM I AM A STRONG ADVOCATE SUPPORTING MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND
05:25:12PM IMPROVING IT FROM WITHIN.
05:25:13PM THIS IS THE VISION FOR THE PROJECT.
05:25:15PM IT IS CONDITION WITH ONE BLOCK OF THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY
05:25:20PM ARE DEVELOPMENT AREA OF BEING A VIBRANT, DIVERSE COMMUNITY
05:25:24PM AND OUR PROJECT SUPPORTS THE VISION.
05:25:25PM EXCITED TO HEAR THAT CITY STAFF REPORTED THAT THEIR FINDINGS
05:25:29PM ARE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD IN SUPPORT OF THIS ROW
05:25:32PM ZONING.
05:25:36PM THIS PROPOSED REZONING IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY'S WELL
05:25:39PM BEING.
05:25:39PM OUR URBAN CORE AS THE POPULATION GROWS AND MORE PEOPLE
05:25:44PM CALLING TAMPA HOME, HAVING A MIX FROM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO
05:25:46PM MULTIFAMILY UNITS ENSURES THAT WE CAN SUPPORT VARIOUS
05:25:49PM RESIDENTS' NEEDS INCLUDING FAMILIES, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND
05:25:53PM SENIORS.
05:25:53PM I EARNESTLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE REZONING 25-09,
05:25:59PM RECOGNIZING ITS SIGNIFICANCE IN OUR CITY'S GROWTH AND
05:26:04PM PROSPERITY.
05:26:04PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
05:26:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
05:26:08PM THEN IN THE PUBLIC WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 2?
05:26:15PM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK.
05:26:17PM COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE THREE
05:26:19PM MINUTES.
05:26:20PM >> FRANCISCO CABELLERO.
05:26:23PM GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
05:26:25PM I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE
05:26:27PM PROPOSED REZONING WITH THE WEST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:26:30PM I ACTUALLY GREW UP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED
05:26:34PM PROBABLY IN DIRECT PROXIMITY IN THE REZONING -- THIS
05:26:41PM INITIATIVE ENHANCES OUR COMMUNITY'S VITALITY BY FOSTERING
05:26:46PM RESPONSIBLE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, EMBRACING THIS REZONING
05:26:48PM WILL NOT ONLY ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS, FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORS,
05:26:51PM BUT WILL ALSO ENSURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REMAINS A VIBRANT
05:26:54PM AND WELCOMED PLACE FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO THRIVE.
05:26:56PM I AM EXCITED TO SEE THIS SHAPE OUR COMMUNITY AND I ENCOURAGE
05:27:05PM TO YOU APPROVE THIS ZONING.
05:27:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:27:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
05:27:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU PLEASE LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING
05:27:11PM ELSE?
05:27:12PM NO?
05:27:13PM YOU ARE GOOD?
05:27:14PM MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
05:27:15PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
05:27:16PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:27:20PM OPPOSED NO REVISION SHEET.
05:27:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE 520 WEST BEACH STREET, CITY
05:27:31PM OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RM-16 TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY,
05:27:42PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:27:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:27:45PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:27:47PM OPPOSED.
05:27:48PM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA
05:27:51PM ABSTAINED.
05:27:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL TAKE A RECESS.
05:27:54PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA ABSTAINING.
05:28:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU ANNOUNCE THE NEXT?
05:28:04PM >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION APRIL 3, 2025 AT 10
05:28:08PM A.M. LOCATED AT 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, THERE,
05:28:14PM 302.
05:28:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:28:16PM WE WILL TAKE A 20-MINUTE RECESS AND BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE
05:28:20PM FROM DOWNSTAIRS.
05:28:20PM WE ARE IN RECESS FOR 20 MINUTES.
05:28:22PM SO WE WILL SAY 5:50.
05:28:24PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
06:00:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, WELCOME TO TAMPA
06:00:20PM CITY COUNCIL.
06:00:20PM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
06:00:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
06:00:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
06:00:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PRESENT.
06:00:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
06:00:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
06:00:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
06:00:29PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
06:00:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
06:00:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:00:35PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
06:00:37PM COUNCIL, YOU HAD WRITTEN DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED AND
06:00:40PM HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION.
06:00:43PM I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED INTO THE
06:00:46PM RECORD AT THIS TIME.
06:00:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION.
06:00:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
06:00:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:00:50PM OPPOSED.
06:00:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO, IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY EX-PARTE
06:00:54PM COMMUNICATIONS -- VERBAL EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS PLEASE
06:00:57PM DISCLOSE THEM AT THIS TIME, IF ANY.
06:00:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY?
06:01:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT HAS BEEN QUITE SOME TIME, REALLY RIGHT
06:01:05PM AFTER I GOT ELECTED.
06:01:06PM I HAD AN INFORMAL MEETING WITH, I BELIEVE, THE APPLICANT'S
06:01:10PM REPRESENTATIVES ABOUT THE PROJECT BUT TWO YEARS AGO.
06:01:12PM IT HAD NOT BEEN FILED.
06:01:13PM SO, YES.
06:01:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND MR. CLENDENIN, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO BE
06:01:19PM FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE
06:01:21PM COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD?
06:01:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
06:01:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:01:26PM ANY OTHERS?
06:01:27PM THANK YOU.
06:01:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:01:29PM ANYTHING ELSE, MR. SHELBY.
06:01:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST THAT IF YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER
06:01:35PM FORM, PLEASE DO BRING THEM UP AND PRESENT THEM TO ME BEFORE
06:01:40PM YOU BEGIN SPEAK.
06:01:41PM WHAT I WILL DO IS SPEAK LOUDLY, AND I WILL CALL THE NAMES OF
06:01:44PM EACH OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WAIVING THEIR THREE MINUTES TO
06:01:48PM ALLOW THE SPEAKER TO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE.
06:01:50PM FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE ARE SEVEN NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
06:01:52PM PRESENT ON THE LIST AND THOSE SEVEN PEOPLE RESPOND, THE
06:01:55PM SPEAKER WILL HAVE TEN MINUTES.
06:01:57PM AND -- SO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT I EITHER HEAR YOU OR SEE YOU
06:02:03PM IDEALLY BOTH, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
06:02:05PM AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:02:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:02:10PM BEFORE WE GO ON --
06:02:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE GO ON, I BELIEVE, MR. CARLSON,
06:02:17PM YOU HAVE A STATEMENT?
06:02:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
06:02:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON SEPTEMBER 26, 2023, I ATTENDED A
06:02:24PM HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MEETING IN A BUILDING LOCATED NEARBY
06:02:28PM TO THE PROPERTY WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS APPLICATION.
06:02:31PM ALTHOUGH I SPECIFICALLY DID NOT ADDRESS ANY ISSUES IN THIS
06:02:36PM QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT A PERSON
06:02:41PM PRESENT AT THAT MEETING MISTAKENLY INFERRED THAT I HAD TAKEN
06:02:45PM A POSITION IN ADVANCE OF THIS HEARING.
06:02:46PM AS A RESULT, I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY COUNCIL THAT I SHOULD
06:02:50PM ABSTAIN TO ASSURE A FAIR PROCEEDING FREE OF ANY APPEARANCE
06:02:55PM OF POTENTIAL BIAS OR PREJUDICE.
06:02:57PM SO I MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
06:02:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
06:03:03PM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
06:03:05PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:03:05PM YES, HE IS ABSTAINING.
06:03:07PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:03:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:03:13PM THE MOTION WAS MADE BY HIM AND HENDERSON IS THE SECOND.
06:03:16PM ANYTHING ELSE?
06:03:20PM OKAY.
06:03:20PM YES, MA'AM.
06:03:21PM THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 3, THE LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
06:03:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE BEGIN, IF YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE
06:03:30PM THE CASE AND HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS.
06:03:32PM THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY AND THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ATTORNEY
06:03:35PM MAY WANT TO RAISE ON THE RECORD AT THIS TIME.
06:03:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE YOU BEGIN, SINCE THIS IS QUASI
06:03:44PM JUDICIAL, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL
06:03:49PM SWEAR YOU IN.
06:03:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYBODY WHO IS GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT,
06:03:52PM PLEASE STAND AND BE SWORN IN.
06:03:53PM [SWEARING IN]
06:03:59PM >> I DO.
06:04:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, YES, SIR.
06:04:01PM HELLO, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:04:03PM >> HELLO.
06:04:03PM MY NAME IS ETHAN LOBE.
06:04:06PM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY WITH BARTLETT LOBE, HINES
06:04:13PM THOMPSON.
06:04:14PM REPRESENTING THE OWNER BAYSHORE LLC.
06:04:19PM I DON'T HAVE TERRIBLY LONG OF MY PRESENTATION.
06:04:21PM I'M HERE FOR TWO REASONS.
06:04:22PM ONE IS AS THE LANDOWNER'S ATTORNEY TO BE HERE TO HELP
06:04:25PM PROTECT ITS PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND YOU WILL NEAR
06:04:29PM MR. GARDNER TALK OF THOSE IN MORE DETAIL.
06:04:32PM THE OTHER PART OF THE PRESENTATION WHICH WILL TAKE ME JUST A
06:04:34PM FEW MINUTES.
06:04:35PM AND I HAVE GOT SOME SLIDES HERE THAT I WILL DO MY LEVEL BEST
06:04:39PM TO BE A TECHNOLOGY WHIZ KID, IF YOU WILL, IS TO SHARE YOU
06:04:45PM WITH SOME RECENT REVELATIONS, IF PULL, THAT YOU MAY OR MAY
06:04:50PM NOT BE AWARE OF THAT WE FEEL IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO
06:04:53PM DISCLOSE TO YOU GIVEN THE PAST NINE MONTHS, IN TERMS OF
06:04:59PM BOTH MY CLIENTS AND THE APPLICANT DOING THEIR BEST
06:05:05PM TO SEE IF THEY CAN'T COME TO A CONSENSUS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
06:05:09PM YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD THE NAME "JANE GRAHAM" BEFORE.
06:05:13PM SHE HAS BEEN INSIDE OF THESE CHAMBERS IN THE PAST.
06:05:16PM I KNOW MISS GRAHAM QUITE WELL.
06:05:19PM SHE USED TO WORK AT OUR LAW FIRM.
06:05:20PM I HOLD HER IN VERY HIGH REGARD.
06:05:23PM ALTHOUGH MISS GRAHAM AND I DIFFER PHILOSOPHICALLY THE WAY WE
06:05:27PM VIEW THINGS, SHE IN JULY OF 2024 WAS REPORTEDLY RETAINED BY
06:05:35PM SOMEBODY BY THE NAME OF DAN WINEGRAD ON BEHALF OF THE PARK
06:05:41PM SIDE OF ONE BAY CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.
06:05:47PM I PUT ON THE SLIDE DECK, YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE,
06:05:50PM THE SIGNATURE, JULY 20 OF 2024.
06:05:53PM AFTER THAT REPRESENTATION CULMINATED AND WAS COMPLETED, BOTH
06:06:01PM THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEYS, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE,
06:06:05PM AND ATTORNEYS FOR MY CLIENT SAT DOWN TO SEE IF THERE IS SOME
06:06:10PM WAY THERE CAN BE A CONSENSUS REACHED.
06:06:12PM AND THERE WERE MULTIPLE MEETINGS.
06:06:14PM AND THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS BACK AND FORTH.
06:06:17PM AND IN GOOD FAITH, EVERYBODY ON OUR SIDE WAS SEEKING TO TRY
06:06:23PM TO FILED A SOLUTION SO WE COULD NOT HAVE A ROOM FULL OF
06:06:26PM PEOPLE BACK HERE.
06:06:27PM BELIEVING THAT MY CLIENT AND THE APPLICANT WERE TALK WITH
06:06:35PM THE PARK SIDE OF ONE BAYSHORE ATTORNEY AND THE INDIVIDUAL
06:06:39PM HOLDING HIMSELF AS BEING THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT
06:06:41PM ORGANIZATION.
06:06:42PM THERE WERE MULTIPLE MEETINGS BACK AND FORTH.
06:06:46PM AND ULTIMATELY, THEY COULD NOT COME TO SOME FORM OF A
06:06:51PM RESOLUTION.
06:06:51PM THEY REACHED AN IMPASSE.
06:06:53PM AND MISS GRAHAM FILED AND SENT TO MISS WELLS A LETTER OF
06:06:58PM OBJECTION.
06:06:58PM AND YOU CAN SEE THE PARK SIDE OF ONE BAYSHORE CONDOMINIUM
06:07:02PM ASSOCIATION WHICH SHE PURPORTS TO REPRESENT OUTLINE
06:07:07PM OBJECTIONS.
06:07:08PM LEADING UP TO THIS POINT, WE THOUGHT THEY WERE NEGOTIATING
06:07:11PM WITH SOMEBODY, AND IT TURNS OUT AS YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT
06:07:13PM OUR FOLKS WERE NEGOTIATING WITH BASICALLY A NOTHING.
06:07:16PM AND HERE IS WHY.
06:07:17PM MISS GRAHAM, AFTER SHE SENDS THAT LETTER OF OBJECTION ON
06:07:23PM MARCH 4, CURIOUSLY SENDS TO MISS WELLS AND OTHERS AN E-MAIL
06:07:29PM SAYING I AM WITHDRAWING AND RETRACTING THIS LETTER AND
06:07:32PM INDICATING SHE DOESN'T REPRESENT THE CLIENT, WHICH SEEMS
06:07:35PM AWFULLY ODDS.
06:07:36PM SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, WE HAD A PHONE CALL.
06:07:41PM AND MISS GRAHAM WAS KIND ENOUGH TO FORWARD THIS TO
06:07:45PM MR. GARDNER.
06:07:45PM I CALLED HER UP BECAUSE OF MY PRIOR RELATIONSHIP WITH HER
06:07:49PM AND MY DEEP RESPECT OF HER AS AN ATTORNEY AND A MEMBER OF
06:07:52PM THE FLORIDA BAR.
06:07:52PM MISS GRAHAM INDICATED TO ME SHE COULD NOT TELL ME MUCH, BUT
06:07:56PM SHE DID TELL ME THAT IF THERE IS A HEARING, MAKE SURE THAT
06:07:59PM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TALKING AND THEY ARE SAYING WHO THEY ARE
06:08:05PM REPRESENTING, BE SURE THEY ARE ACTUALLY REPRESENTING THOSE
06:08:09PM INDIVIDUALS.
06:08:10PM SOMEWHAT CRYPTIC.
06:08:12PM MY SPIDEY SENSES TO THE EXTENT THEY TO EXIST WENT UP.
06:08:15PM AND WE ASKED IF WE COULD SPEAK WITH MISS GRAHAM.
06:08:18PM WE CALLED HER BACK AND SAID CAN WE SPEAK WITH WHO YOUR
06:08:21PM FORMER CLIENT IS AND IDENTIFIED MR. WINEGRAD ULTIMATELY.
06:08:24PM MISS GRAHAM AFTER SHE SENT THAT INITIAL WITHDRAWAL E-MAIL,
06:08:32PM FOLLOWED UP INDICATING TO MISS WELLS AND COPIED ME AS WELL
06:08:35PM AS OTHERS INDICATING THAT SHE SENT A LETTER, THE ONE WE HAD
06:08:39PM DISCUSSED AND INDICATED THAT THE INDIVIDUAL WHO ENGAGED HER
06:08:43PM FIRM WAS NEVER AUTHORIZED TO RETAIN HER FIRM ON BEHALF OF
06:08:47PM PARK SIDE ONE OF BAYSHORE, WHICH IS DEEPLY TROUBLING AND
06:08:52PM DISTURBING AS I SAID.
06:08:53PM A LOT OF TIME, MONEY AND ENERGY THAT GOES INTO THESE
06:08:56PM PROJECTS.
06:08:56PM EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.
06:08:57PM AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GOOD FAITH TO SEE IF THERE IS A
06:09:01PM RESOLUTION THAT COULD BE REACHED, AND YOU FIND OUT THAT
06:09:04PM SOMEBODY WHO IS REPORTING TO REPRESENT AN ORGANIZATION IS
06:09:07PM NOT ACTUALLY DOING THAT AND ASSIGNED SOMETHING WITHOUT
06:09:10PM AUTHORITY, THAT CAUSES EVERYBODY A LOT OF HEARTACHE.
06:09:15PM WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, THE BUSH ROSS FIRM GETS INVOLVED BECAUSE
06:09:18PM THEY ARE THE TRUE IN-HOUSE LEGAL COUNCIL FOR THE CONDOMINIUM
06:09:23PM ASSOCIATION.
06:09:23PM AND WHEN MILTON HIT YOU CAN IMAGINE MY SURPRISE
06:09:29PM WHEN WE RECEIVED THE LETTER INDICATING THAT JANE GRAHAM
06:09:32PM REPRESENTS THE ASSOCIATION.
06:09:33PM AND TURNS OUT AS I ALREADY TOLD YOU IT WAS CONFIRMED SHE DID
06:09:37PM NOT.
06:09:37PM TO HER CREDIT, MISS GRAHAM REACHED OUT TO LANCE SCRIVEN, WHO
06:09:43PM MOST OF US HOPED TO NEVER HAVE TO TALK TO HIS LAWYERS,
06:09:46PM BECAUSE HE WORKS IN DEALING WITH BAR GRIEVANCES AND THINGS
06:09:49PM LIKE THAT.
06:09:50PM BUT SHE HIRES A LAWYER.
06:09:51PM AND MR. SCRIVEN CONFIRMS TO US THAT MISS GRAHAM LEARNED THAT
06:09:58PM THE INDIVIDUAL SIGNING ON BEHALF OF THE CONDO ASSOCIATION
06:10:02PM WAS IN FACT NOT AUTHORIZED TO DO SO.
06:10:05PM AND ATTACHED TO THAT E-MAIL WAS A LETTER FROM MR. SCRIVEN
06:10:09PM OUTLINING HIS POSITION IN FURTHER DETAIL.
06:10:13PM AND A COMMUNICATION THAT WAS EXCHANGED JUST A FEW DAYS INTO
06:10:20PM MARCH OF 2025 BETWEEN MISS GRAHAM AND MR. WINEGRAD.
06:10:24PM AND IN THAT COMMUNICATION, IT IS INDICATING THAT WHEN SHE
06:10:29PM WAS RETAINED, IT WAS CLEAR TO HER BOTH ONE ON ONE AND THE
06:10:32PM KEY PHRASE IS IN FRONT OF A GROUP OF ALLIES THAT SHE WAS
06:10:36PM HIRED ON BEHALF OF PARK SIDE OF ONE BAYSHORE CONDOMINIUM
06:10:40PM ASSOCIATION.
06:10:40PM AND SHE INDICATED THAT AT BEST, IT WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION.
06:10:44PM ONE THING THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL FAILED TO CLARIFY REPEATEDLY
06:10:48PM OVER MONTHS OF RECOMMENDATION INCLUDING DURING MEETINGS WITH
06:10:51PM OPPOSING COUNCIL.
06:10:52PM AND SO AS IT STANDS NOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS BEEN
06:10:57PM WITHDRAWN IN TERMS OF -- IN TERMS OF THE LETTER OF
06:11:00PM OBJECTION.
06:11:01PM BUT WE WANT TO MAKE THE RECORD VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT THAT
06:11:05PM COMMUNICATION THAT WAS AUTHORED, A VERY LENGTHY
06:11:08PM COMMUNICATION IN ORDER TO ASSERT OBJECTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE
06:11:13PM CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION WAS NOT AUTHORIZED AND FILED AND HAS
06:11:16PM SINCE BEEN WITHDRAWN, BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, AT LEAST
06:11:19PM FROM MY CLIENT'S PERSPECTIVE AS THE LANDOWNER HERE AND,
06:11:23PM AGAIN, I'M HERE TO HELP OUT AS BEST AS I CAN, TO EXPLAIN
06:11:27PM THIS TO YOU AND PROTECT ITS PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
06:11:29PM THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE AND SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN
06:11:32PM FRONT OF Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS FROM
06:11:36PM TIME TO TIME, BUT YOU ALL ARE A GOVERNMENT AND I HAVE
06:11:38PM RESPECT FOR THE ENTITY ITSELF.
06:11:40PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING.
06:11:42PM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE TO THE EXTENT YOU HAVE CONSIDERED IT OR
06:11:46PM RECEIVED THE LETTER FROM MISS GRAHAM OR ANYTHING, WE WOULD
06:11:49PM ASK YOU TO KINDLY DISREGARD THAT AND TAKE THAT THAT INTO
06:11:52PM CONSIDERATION IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO
06:11:56PM HEAR FROM MR. GARDNER AND OTHERS AS THIS HEARING PROGRESSES.
06:12:00PM THANK YOU FOR LET MOOING HE SPEAK ON THIS POINT AND THANK
06:12:03PM YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:12:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:12:07PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
06:12:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, THAT WAS A LONG DISSERTATION.
06:12:11PM BASICALLY WHAT I GATHERED FROM THAT DISSERTATION.
06:12:17PM IT WAS BASICALLY DISREGARD THIS PARTICULAR ATTORNEY'S
06:12:21PM REPRESENTATION AS AN AUTHORIZED SPOKESPERSON FOR THE
06:12:26PM CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.
06:12:28PM ANYTHING ELSE THERE THAT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THAT WE
06:12:31PM SHOULD BE CONSIDERING?
06:12:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS IT GOES BEYOND THAT.
06:12:34PM THE LETTER WAS RESCINDED.
06:12:36PM WHATEVER THE SUM AND SUBSTANCE OF WHATEVER WAS COMMUNICATED,
06:12:40PM DISREGARD THAT AND NOT CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF YOUR
06:12:42PM EVIDENCE THAT YOU WEIGH IN THIS CASE.
06:12:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
06:12:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
06:12:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEVER SEEN THIS OR HEARD THIS -- OR
06:12:51PM HEARD ABOUT IT.
06:12:52PM IF ALFRED HITCHCOCK WOULD BE ALIVE, THIS WOULD BE A MOVIE.
06:12:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GARDNER.
06:13:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED.
06:13:04PM >> TWO OR THREE MINUTES.
06:13:05PM HOUSEKEEPING OF WHAT WE ARE PROFFERING FOR YOU.
06:13:08PM TRUETT GARDNER, 200 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
06:13:12PM WHAT WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU IT TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY AS IT
06:13:15PM RELATES TO HEIGHT.
06:13:15PM THIS KIND OF GOES TO -- TO CLARIFY, TRUETT GARDNER.
06:13:20PM I REPRESENT CRESCENT RESOURCES.
06:13:23PM ETHAN REPRESENTS THE PROPERTY OWNER WHICH IS THE LINE OF
06:13:26PM DEMARCATION CLEAR.
06:13:27PM BUT AS ETHAN WAS MENTIONING, WE DID ENGAGE IN MULTIPLE
06:13:31PM COMMUNICATIONS WITH MISS GRAHAM WHO REPORTEDLY WAS
06:13:35PM REPRESENTING PARK SIDE ONE BAYSHORE AND MR. SHEA
06:13:39PM REPRESENTING 345 BAYSHORE AND HERE TONIGHT IN THAT CAPACITY.
06:13:43PM ONE OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE KEPT HAVING WAS ON
06:13:46PM HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
06:13:47PM AND SO AT ONE POINT, WE HAD AGREED -- THIS IS WHAT WE ARE
06:13:53PM PROFFERING TONIGHT.
06:13:53PM YOUR STAFF REPORT IS PREMISED ON A HEIGHT OF 330 FEET.
06:13:57PM AND WHAT WE ARE OFFERING TONIGHT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS
06:14:01PM 274 FEET.
06:14:02PM WE WANTED TO -- YOU GOT A LONG REVISION SHEET AND ACTUALLY
06:14:05PM THIS WILL BE A SUPPLEMENTAL REVISION TO THAT REVISION SHEET.
06:14:09PM OUR CLIENTS -- WE TOLD THEM IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE CHANGES,
06:14:12PM WE WILL NEED A CONTINUANCE SO THEY CAN BE REVIEWED.
06:14:15PM THEY DID NOT WANT US TO CONTINUE AND SO WE ARE FORCED TO
06:14:18PM COME TO YOU TONIGHT PROFFERING UP WHAT THIS IS.
06:14:22PM WE VETTED THIS WITH STAFF.
06:14:24PM AND THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND BE
06:14:28PM REVIEWED BY OTHER AGENCIES.
06:14:29PM SO IT IS A MATTER THAT CAN BE CHANGED BETWEEN FIRST AND
06:14:33PM SECOND READING SHOULD WE BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO PROCEED TO A
06:14:36PM SECOND READING.
06:14:37PM AND I WANTED TO CLARIFY TO YOU IT TONIGHT THAT WHAT YOU
06:14:41PM SHOULD BE CONSIDERING IS THE 274 FEET IN HEIGHT, WHICH IS
06:14:45PM WHAT WE ARE PROFFERING, NOT THE 330 WHICH IS WHAT THE STAFF
06:14:49PM REPORTS WERE -- WERE WRITTEN ON, AS WELL AS THE OTHER
06:14:52PM MATTERS THAT WERE REVIEWED.
06:14:53PM SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO DO THAT NOW OPPOSED TO
06:14:57PM DURING THE COURSE OF THE PRESENTATION.
06:14:59PM SO WE ARE CLEAR ON THE 274.
06:15:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:15:02PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, BEFORE MISS WELLS COMES UP TO SPEAK --
06:15:06PM MISS WELLS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND FIRST.
06:15:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE -- FEET
06:15:14PM AND STORIES TELL -- THAT -- THAT'S THE COMPLICATION FOR US.
06:15:18PM SO THIS WAS 330 FEET, WHICH IS 27 STORIES.
06:15:26PM AND WHAT WOULD 274 -- I CAN'T DO THE MATH IN MY HEAD.
06:15:32PM >> 274, 25.
06:15:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, OKAY.
06:15:37PM GOING FROM 27 TO 25.
06:15:39PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:15:41PM >> YES.
06:15:43PM >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, CATE WELLS FROM THE LEGAL
06:15:46PM DEPARTMENT.
06:15:46PM I WANT TO ADVISE COUNCIL WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS THE
06:15:50PM APPLICATION FILED BACK IN OCTOBER 2023.
06:15:53PM AS THIS WAS ORIGINALLY NOTICED BACK IN AUGUST 2024 WHEN IT
06:15:57PM WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
06:15:59PM NOT A REVISED SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU.
06:16:02PM SO -- BUT STAFF HAS REVIEWED IS THE SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED
06:16:08PM AND THE APPLICATION AS PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED.
06:16:11PM THAT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE AUGUST OF 2024.
06:16:13PM SO I DISAGREE WITH THE STATEMENT THAT WHAT STAFF SHOULD BE
06:16:17PM ADDRESS SOMETHING A HEIGHT OF 274 FEET.
06:16:20PM THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PROFFERED.
06:16:23PM THIS IS THE FIRST I AM HEARING OF IT.
06:16:24PM WHAT IS BEFORE YOU, AND WE TELL YOU THIS WITH ALL THE OTHER
06:16:28PM APPLICATIONS WHERE APPLICANTS TRY TO CHANGE THE SITE PLAN AT
06:16:32PM THE PODIUM IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS THE APPLICATION THAT IS
06:16:36PM FILED AND NOTICED AND BASED ON THE STAFF REPORTS AS THEY ARE
06:16:39PM PREPARED AND SUBMITTED TO YOU.
06:16:40PM THANK YOU.
06:16:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
06:16:42PM MISS DOCK.
06:16:43PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, LaCHONE
06:16:51PM DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:16:53PM ITEM 3, REZ 23-99.
06:16:56PM I WANT TO JUST GIVE AT THAT BRIEF INTRODUCTION ON THIS ITEM.
06:17:00PM AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MISS MALONE BE WITH PLANNING
06:17:04PM COMMISSION STAFF TO GO OVER HER REPORT.
06:17:05PM AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JONATHAN SCOTT WITH MOW TO
06:17:11PM REVIEW HIS FINDING OF INCONSISTENT.
06:17:13PM THIS REZONING CASE, REZ 23-99 FOR THE LOCATED AT 319
06:17:22PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
06:17:23PM REQUEST TO REZONE FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WHICH WAS
06:17:25PM APPROVED IN 2010 AND ALL FILE Z 10-34.
06:17:29PM THIS ALLOWS FOR THE USES OF RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND
06:17:34PM COMMERCIAL ON SITE.
06:17:34PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND IT
06:17:38PM IS FOR STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD
06:17:42PM USES.
06:17:42PM AND JUST TO GIVE -- JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THIS
06:17:46PM REQUEST.
06:17:48PM I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THE CURRENT APPROVED PD PLAN.
06:17:55PM SO WHEN WE ARE REFERENCING THE CURRENT ZONING IS PD, PLANNED
06:17:59PM DEVELOPMENT, IT IS FROM THE APPROVED REZ 2010 FILE, Z 10-4.
06:18:04PM THIS IS PLATT STREET THAT IS ON THE SITE PLAN.
06:18:07PM THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN.
06:18:08PM THIS IS BAYSHORE.
06:18:10PM AND THIS IS BURN STREET.
06:18:12PM SO THE AREA UNDER APPROVAL FOR THE 2010 REZONING IS THIS
06:18:18PM ENTIRE AREA.
06:18:19PM SO IN 2010, WESTERN THIS REZONING WAS APPROVED, IT WAS
06:18:26PM APPROVED AND AMENDED AS A PHASE DEVELOPMENT.
06:18:29PM PHASE ONE LOCATED HERE.
06:18:31PM PHASE TWO LOCATED HERE AND HERE.
06:18:34PM AND PHASE THREE.
06:18:35PM SO PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO HAVE BEEN BUILT OUT.
06:18:39PM WHAT REMAINS AND WHAT IS VACANT IS PHASE THREE.
06:18:41PM SO WHAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS THE REZONING REQUEST
06:18:46PM TO DEVELOP PHASE THREE.
06:18:47PM SOFT I JUST WANTED TO JUST MAKE THAT CLEAR.
06:18:51PM THE APPLICANT IS COMING IN WITH JUST THE THIRD PHASE.
06:18:55PM THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD HAVE BEEN TO COME IN AND REZONE THE
06:18:59PM ENTIRE ALL PHASES FROM PD TO PD.
06:19:04PM BUT THEY ARE COMING IN WITH JUST THIS PHASE.
06:19:06PM SO SINCE THE 2010 REZONING APPROVAL, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE
06:19:11PM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REQUESTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE
06:19:14PM APPLICANT.
06:19:15PM SO THROUGH THOSE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REQUESTS, AS YOU MAY
06:19:19PM KNOW THROUGH THE PD SITE PLAN PROCESS, THERE IS A LIMIT ON
06:19:23PM THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REQUEST THAT YOU CAN MAKE.
06:19:26PM AND THOSE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEWS.
06:19:28PM SO AFTER YOU HAVE AN APPROVED PD, THERE ARE TWO WAYS YOU ARE
06:19:32PM GOING TO REQUEST A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
06:19:34PM EITHER THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE PLAN, MAYBE BY THE TIME YOU
06:19:36PM GET TO PERMITTING AND THERE IS A REDESIGN.
06:19:39PM YOU HAVE TO SHIFT STAIRWELLS, ADJUSTMENT OF A SETBACK.
06:19:43PM YOU WOULD APPLY TO A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEW.
06:19:46PM TO HAVE A DETERMINATION MADE THAT IT IS NONSUBSTANTIAL.
06:19:49PM OTHER WAY THAT YOU APPLY FOR A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEW IS
06:19:53PM IF YOU HAVE NOT DEVELOPED THE SITE WITHIN FIVE YEARS.
06:19:56PM SO YOU RECEIVE REZONING APPROVAL.
06:19:58PM THAT PD APPROVAL AND THOSE SET OF ENTITLEMENTS ALWAYS REMAIN
06:20:04PM ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL YOU COME AND REZONE AGAIN.
06:20:06PM IF YOU GO BEYOND THE FIVE YEARS AND LET'S SAY SIX YEARS,
06:20:09PM SEVEN YEARS, YOU COME TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, YOU SUBMIT
06:20:12PM FOR SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEW TO SHOW THAT WHAT YOU ARE
06:20:14PM PROPOSING FOR PERMITTING IS WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE
06:20:20PM ENTITLEMENTS APPROVED IN THAT PD.
06:20:23PM SO IN THIS CASE -- SORRY, THROUGH THE YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN
06:20:27PM THREE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE REVIEWS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
06:20:29PM ONE OF THE REQUESTS ALLOW FOR THE -- WAS A REQUEST TO ALLOW
06:20:32PM FOR THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT REMAIN ON PHASES ONE AND TWO.
06:20:36PM TO BE APPLIED TO PHASE THREE.
06:20:39PM SO THE ORIGINAL 2010 REZONING APPROVED 753 UNITS OR 753,198
06:20:51PM SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT.
06:20:52PM AND AFTER PHASES ONE AND TWO WERE BUILT, THERE WAS A TOTAL
06:20:55PM OF 3609,329 SQUARE FEET.
06:20:59PM THAT WAS APPLIED TO PHASE THREE.
06:21:04PM NOW COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.
06:21:06PM ONE IS THE APPROVED REZONING FROM 2010.
06:21:09PM YOU CAN SEE FROM EACH PHASE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL UNDER
06:21:12PM EACH PHASE.
06:21:13PM FOR PHASE THREE, IT DOES STATE THE DWELLING UNIT IS AT 11
06:21:19PM UNITS.
06:21:19PM AND IT ALSO STATES WITH PHASE THREE, THE MAXIMUM BUILDING
06:21:23PM HEIGHT IS 98 FEET.
06:21:26PM 98 FEET OR EIGHT STORIES .THAT IS ON THE APPROVED PLAN.
06:21:30PM SO GIVEN THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT WERE TRANSFERRED TO PHASE
06:21:35PM THREE, AND GIVEN THE CONDITIONS UNDER THE APPROVED
06:21:39PM CURRENT PD ZONING, IT LIMITS THE DEVELOPMENT TO THAT HEIGHT
06:21:44PM AND THE STORIES AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
06:21:47PM I WILL GO OVER THAT WHEN I DO MY STAFF REPORT LATER.
06:21:50PM I WANTED TO EXPLAIN HOW WE ARE HERE TODAY WITH PHASE THREE
06:21:55PM DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED FROM THE APPLICANT.
06:21:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:21:58PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I WILL TURN IT TO MISS MALONE TO GIVE HER
06:22:01PM REPORT AND I WILL COME BACK AND GIVE MINE.
06:22:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
06:22:04PM MR. SHELBY?
06:22:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. GARDNER DID RAISE THE ISSUE OF THE
06:22:12PM HEIGHT AND THE STORIES AT THE BEGINNING.
06:22:15PM BECAUSE IF A REQUEST -- EXCUSE ME, IF A CONTINUANCE IS
06:22:20PM NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN I JUST WANT TO
06:22:24PM BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, IT IS A RULE THAT WAS ADOPTED
06:22:28PM AT THE LAST AMENDED AND RESTATED RULES OF PROCEDURE, RULE
06:22:38PM 6-J-2 -- EXCUSE ME 6-J-3, SO COUNCIL IS AWARE AND SHOULD BE
06:22:45PM FAMILIAR WITH IT.
06:22:45PM NO REQUEST OF A CONTINUANCE FROM THE APPLICANT, PETITIONER
06:22:49PM SHOULD BE GRANTED AFTER THE APPLICANT, PETITIONER HAS
06:22:52PM COMPLETED ITS INITIAL PRESENTATION UNLESS UPON DETERMINATION
06:22:55PM BY CITY COUNCIL THAT IT IS NECESSARY FOR PURPOSES OF
06:22:58PM PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS.
06:22:59PM SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR AS TO IF THERE IS A NEED FOR A
06:23:05PM CONTINUANCE IN THIS CASE, THAT IT BE RAISED EARLY SO WE
06:23:08PM DON'T GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND LEFT WITH A SITUATION
06:23:10PM WHERE IT HAS BEEN -- THE RIGHT TO A CONTINUANCE HAS BEEN
06:23:15PM WAIVED.
06:23:15PM UNLESS COUNCIL WAIVES ITS RULES.
06:23:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:23:19PM WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK MR. GARDNER?
06:23:24PM MISS DOCK, FROM MR. GARDNER HAD RAISED TO THE 330 TO THE 274
06:23:31PM FOOT CHANGE.
06:23:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:23:35PM THE CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED, THAT CHANGE CAN BE MADE
06:23:38PM TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
06:23:40PM ADDITIONAL CHANGES ALSO TO BE MADE IN THE STAFF REPORT WHICH
06:23:45PM THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO MAKE.
06:23:46PM BUT THOSE CAN BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
06:23:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. GARDNER, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT TO
06:23:54PM CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
06:23:55PM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
06:24:00PM YES, WE ARE PROFFERING THE 274.
06:24:03PM AGREE WITH MISS WELLS THAT STAFF REPORT WERE WRITTEN AND
06:24:09PM ONLY COULD BE WRITTEN ON THE 330 FEET, THE SUBJECT OF THE
06:24:12PM APPLICATION ON FILE.
06:24:13PM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY OF YOUR STAFF REPORTS WOULD CHANGE,
06:24:18PM AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN THE MOUTH OF THE PLANNING
06:24:21PM COMMISSION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF POTENTIALLY PLANNING
06:24:23PM COMMISSION'S FINDINGS.
06:24:24PM DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR VIEW IS ON THAT.
06:24:28PM BUT THAT IS THE CONCESSION FROM 330 TO 274, AND I KNOW THE
06:24:33PM HEIGHT WAS AN ISSUE THAT THEY HAD.
06:24:35PM BUT WE ARE FINE, ESPECIALLY WITH --
06:24:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH MOVING FORWARD.
06:24:40PM >> WITH MOVING FORWARD.
06:24:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:24:42PM WHO IS NEXT?
06:24:44PM MISS MALONE.
06:24:45PM COME ON UP.
06:24:45PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:24:49PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING
06:24:50PM COMMISSION STAFF.
06:24:51PM REZ 23-99 LOCATED AT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AT 319 BAYSHORE
06:24:59PM BOULEVARD.
06:25:00PM I HAVE AN AERIAL TO SHOW.
06:25:01PM JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE REVIEWED THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED IN
06:25:05PM OCTOBER OF 2023.
06:25:06PM MY FINDING IS BASED ON THE SITE PLAN AND THE HEIGHT ON THAT
06:25:09PM SITE PLAN.
06:25:09PM THE SITE IS A VACANT PARCEL.
06:25:15PM IT IS JUST SOUTH OF THE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND WEST PLATT
06:25:19PM STREET INTERSECTION.
06:25:20PM THIS ACROSS THE STREET IS DAVIS ISLANDS AND TAMPA GENERAL
06:25:25PM HOSPITAL.
06:25:25PM HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:25:26PM WE HAVE TALLER BUILDING HERE ABOUT 274 FEET TO THE SOUTH.
06:25:30PM WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE SMALLER USES TO THE -- BEHIND THE
06:25:36PM SITE SO TO SPEAK.
06:25:38PM AND THESE ARE THE OTHER PHASES.
06:25:39PM I AM SURE LACHONE -- MISS DOCK WILL GO INTO IT IN MORE
06:25:43PM DETAIL THE OTHER PHASES AND HOW THEY WERE BUILT OUT AND
06:25:48PM THEIR HEIGHTS.
06:25:48PM THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 83.
06:25:52PM WE ALSO HAVE RESIDENTIAL 50.
06:25:53PM AND THEN REGIONAL MIXED USE-100 IN THE AREA.
06:25:57PM THE SITE PLAN FROM 2010 HAD THREE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES
06:26:02PM ON IT WHEN IT WAS APPROVED BACK THEN.
06:26:04PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS A LINEAR PARK.
06:26:07PM THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE, FUTURE LAND
06:26:11PM USE CATEGORY THAT IS THE GREEN.
06:26:13PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THIS INCONSISTENT WITH THE
06:26:15PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:26:16PM WE DID LOOK AT THE EXISTING HEIGHT OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS
06:26:19PM IN THE SURROUNDING AREA TO COMPARE THE SCALE AND COMPATIBLE
06:26:23PM WITH THE PROPOSED PD.
06:26:25PM WE DID NOT FIND THIS IN SCALE AND COMPATIBILITY WITH WHAT
06:26:29PM THEY ARE PROPOSING.
06:26:29PM THE OTHER HEIGHTS.
06:26:30PM I WILL SAY THAT THE -- THAT THE -- THE BUILDING RIGHT TO THE
06:26:34PM SOUTH IS ABOUT 274 FEET HIGH.
06:26:37PM BUT THE OTHER HIGHLIGHTS OF THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS ARE
06:26:40PM BETWEEN -- RANGE BETWEEN EIGHT FEET -- SORRY, EIGHT STORIES
06:26:44PM AND 18 STORIES.
06:26:46PM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT FOR THE RECORD THE DEFINITION
06:26:49PM OF COMPATIBILITY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT MEAN THE
06:26:52PM SAME AS.
06:26:53PM IT REFERS TO THE SENSITIVITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
06:26:55PM AND MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
06:26:58PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED PD IS NOT
06:27:01PM COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND
06:27:04PM PROPOSED PD IS NOT MITIGATING THESE IMPACTS THROUGH
06:27:07PM EFFECTIVE MASSING AND SCALE.
06:27:08PM IT IS OUT OF SCALE WITH THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF PHASE THREE
06:27:11PM OF REZ 10-34 WHICH SOUGHT TO PROVIDE A TRANSITION AND
06:27:16PM DENSITY ON THIS PARCEL WHICH SUSPECT FURTHEST FROM DOWNTOWN
06:27:20PM TAMPA THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:27:22PM THANK YOU.
06:27:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
06:27:25PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:27:26PM MISS DOCK, YOUR PRESENTATION.
06:27:27PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:27:31PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:27:34PM I WILL PUT UP THE AERIAL FOR THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:27:38PM AND SO THIS IS THE SITE WHICH IS OUTLINED HERE IN PINK.
06:27:44PM THIS IS WHAT IS IDENTIFIED AS I SHOWED EARLY ON THE SITE
06:27:49PM PLAN AS PHASE THREE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
06:27:51PM WHAT IS OUTLINED IN THIS RED OUTLINE, THIS IS THE OVERALL
06:27:56PM 2010 REZONING AREA.
06:27:57PM AND SO THE REQUEST WOULD BE TO -- WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY
06:28:02PM REZONE JUST IN PARCEL THAT IS LOCATED HERE.
06:28:05PM THIS IS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
06:28:06PM THIS IS WEST PLATT STREET.
06:28:08PM YOU CAN SEE JUST NORTH OF THE SITE AND NORTH OF WEST PLATT
06:28:12PM STREET, YOU HAVE YOUR PD ZONING WHICH IS AN OLDER PD THAT
06:28:17PM WAS APPROVED.
06:28:19PM THIS IS THE PUBLIX.
06:28:20PM COMMERCIAL USES IN THE CG ZONING THAT RUNS ALONG PLATT
06:28:24PM STREET.
06:28:24PM YOU HAVE ST. JOHN'S NORTH OF PLATT STREET.
06:28:27PM AS YOU MOVE FURTHER SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS
06:28:32PM IS REALLY NORTHWEST OF THIS PARCEL FOR THE SUBJECT SITE, BUT
06:28:35PM OF THE OVERALL PD REZONING TO THE WEST IS THE RO-1 ZONINGS.
06:28:42PM SOUTHWEST, YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF PD REZONINGS.
06:28:45PM THERE IS A PD THAT WAS APPROVED IN '22 THAT IS FOR
06:28:50PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
06:28:51PM THIS PD WAS APPROVED IN '05 FOR BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL
06:28:55PM OFFICE.
06:28:56PM TO THE SOUTH, YOU HAVE THE PD DEVELOPMENT THAT IS 345
06:29:01PM BAYSHORE.
06:29:01PM AND THEN YOU HAVE GOT THIS PD WHICH IS TAMPA GENERAL THAT
06:29:06PM CAME THROUGH AND DID ANOTHER REZONING ON '23 ON THAT SITE.
06:29:10PM SO ON THE SITE ITSELF, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL
06:29:14PM DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ALLOWED GIVEN THE STOREFRONT
06:29:16PM RESIDENTIAL REQUEST, WITH 2150 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL
06:29:22PM PROPOSED.
06:29:22PM 237 RESIDENTIAL UNITS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED.
06:29:26PM THE TOTAL HOSPITAL AREA IS 34,435 SQUARE FEET, OF .79 ACRES.
06:29:35PM MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT PROPOSED 330 FEET FOR 27 FLOORS.
06:29:40PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN WHICH WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
06:29:43PM AND THIS IS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
06:29:49PM THAT IS TO THE SOUTH.
06:29:50PM THIS IS BEACH PLACE.
06:29:52PM AND THIS IS THE ALLEY.
06:29:54PM AND THIS IS VERN STREET.
06:29:55PM SO ALONG BEACH PLACE, THE LOT WIDTH IS 140 FEET.
06:30:01PM ALONG VERN STREET, THE LOT WIDTH IS 157 FEET.
06:30:07PM LOT DEPTH IS 2210 FEET ON BAYSHORE AND 211 FIGHT ON THE
06:30:12PM ALLEY.
06:30:12PM THE SETBACKS ARE TO THE NORTH 10 FEET, TO THE SOUTH, 15
06:30:17PM FEET, TO THE WEST 3 FEET, TO IT THE EAST, 5 FEET.
06:30:21PM TOTAL OF 246 SPACES REQUIRED.
06:30:24PM AND 355 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
06:30:28PM SO ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, YOU CAN SEE THAT VEHICULAR
06:30:31PM ACCESS TO THE SITE IS HERE ON BEACH PLACE.
06:30:33PM THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
06:30:38PM YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SITE IS SURROUNDED WITH A FIVE-FOOT
06:30:43PM SIDEWALK SURROUNDING THE SITE.
06:30:44PM AND THIS IS THE LOCATION OF YOUR SOLID WASTE, YOUR LOADING
06:30:48PM VEHICLES -- THE LOADING SPACES, RATHER.
06:30:50PM AND THE VEHICLES WOULD ACCESS THE SITE FROM THE ALLEY.
06:30:54PM FOR THOSE PURPOSES.
06:30:56PM YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION PROVIDED FROM THE
06:30:59PM BUILDING ENTRIES, THE POINT OF ENTRY WITH THE PEDESTRIAN
06:31:03PM CONNECTION TO THE SIDEWALKS.
06:31:03PM THAT ARE ADJACENT.
06:31:09PM THEN I HAVE ELEVATIONS OF THE SITE.
06:31:12PM LET ME ZOOM OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
06:31:20PM THE NORTH BUILDING ELEVATION.
06:31:22PM AND THIS IS THE EAST BUILDING ELEVATION.
06:31:28PM THIS IS THE SOUTH BUILDING ELEVATION.
06:31:35PM AND THEN THIS IS THE WEST BUILDING ELEVATION.
06:31:40PM THEN I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
06:31:46PM SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:31:49PM THAT IS LOOKING WEST TO THE SITE.
06:31:54PM THIS IS THE NORTH END OF THE SITE, SO THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.
06:32:00PM THIS IS THE SITE IF YOU ARE FROM THE ALLEY AND YOU ARE
06:32:07PM LOOKING SOUTH.
06:32:07PM THIS IS IF YOU ARE FROM THE ALLEY THAT IS THE WEST END OF
06:32:14PM THE SITE AND LOOKING NORTH.
06:32:15PM TOWARDS WHAT IS PHASE THREE.
06:32:20PM THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
06:32:22PM THIS IS TO THE WEST.
06:32:27PM THIS IS ON BEACH PLACE.
06:32:28PM THIS IS IF YOU ARE LOOKING SOUTH ON BAYSHORE, THE SUBJECT
06:32:38PM SITE IS TO THE RIGHT.
06:32:40PM THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE THIS IS TO THE EAST.
06:32:48PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON BAYSHORE.
06:32:51PM OF THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
06:32:56PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH.
06:32:57PM AND THIS IS YOUR VIEW OF PHASE TWO WHICH HAS BEEN DEVELOPED.
06:33:01PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
06:33:03PM THIS IS INTERNAL TO THE SITE.
06:33:08PM AND THIS IS IF YOU ARE HEADED EAST ON HYDE PARK PLACE.
06:33:11PM IN IS ANOTHER VIEW OF NORTH.
06:33:16PM THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF PLATT AND BAYSHORE, PART OF PHASE
06:33:22PM ONE.
06:33:22PM AND THIS IS ACROSS PLATT STREET, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE
06:33:26PM NORTH END OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
06:33:28PM AND THAT IS ON PLATT STREET, YOU ARE LOOKING EAST.
06:33:31PM AND THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT.
06:33:33PM PHASE ONE THERE.
06:33:34PM AND THEN THAT IS SWINGING BACK TO THE EAST AT THE HOSPITAL.
06:33:38PM SO WITH THIS REQUEST, THERE WERE WAIVERS REQUESTED AND I
06:33:44PM WILL LET JONATHAN REVIEW THE TRANSPORTATION-RELATED WAIVERS.
06:33:48PM ONE WAIVER RELATED TO NATURAL RESOURCES AND THAT IS TO
06:33:52PM REDUCE THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFER FROM FIVE FEET TO FOUR
06:33:56PM FEET ON THE NORTHWEST.
06:33:57PM THIS ADDITION, THE DRC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PETITION AND
06:34:00PM FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
06:34:02PM FINALLY, YOU WILL SEE THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT FROM
06:34:06PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FROM TRANSPORTATION AND THEN
06:34:08PM PLANNING COMMISSION'S REPORT IS ALSO INCLUDED.
06:34:10PM AND FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO SOME OF THE
06:34:13PM ANALYSIS PROVIDED BY STAFF IN THE FINDS.
06:34:18PM SO STAFF HAS CONCERNS REGARDING THE SCALE AND MASSING
06:34:20PM PROPOSED WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHT OF 330 FEET.
06:34:24PM IN CONSIDERATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ALONG THE
06:34:27PM SEGMENT OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND
06:34:31PM BUILDING HEIGHTS TRANSITION FROM THE TALLEST STRUCTURE
06:34:33PM LOCATED ON -- AS PART OF PHASE ONE WHICH IS AT THE CORNER OF
06:34:39PM PLATT AND BAYSHORE BOULEVARD OF BUILDING HEIGHTS OF EIGHT
06:34:42PM STORIES IN PHASE TWO.
06:34:44PM GIVEN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT EXISTS IN PHASE ONE AND PHASE
06:34:47PM TWO, WHICH IS PART OF THE OVERALL PD DEVELOPMENT.
06:34:51PM AND IN THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREA, THE PROPOSED 330 FEET
06:34:56PM IN HEIGHT DEVELOPMENT REQUESTED IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE
06:34:59PM SURROUNDING BUILD ENVIRONMENT.
06:35:01PM CURRENT PD APPROVAL, WHICH IS UNDER Z 10-34, AMENDED PHASE
06:35:06PM THREE DEVELOPMENT AT 11 DWELLING UNITS AND A MAXIMUM HEIGHT
06:35:12PM OF EIGHT STORIES AND CONSIDERED IN STAFF'S ANALYSIS AND
06:35:14PM EVALUATION OF THE PD PLAN.
06:35:16PM THE CURRENT PD IS OUT OF CHARACTER AND EXCEEDS THE SCALE AND
06:35:20PM MASSING THAT EXISTS IN THE SURROUNDING IMPACTED
06:35:22PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:35:23PM AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:35:26PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
06:35:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
06:35:29PM COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
06:35:30PM SO THE BUILDING IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH IS HOW TALL?
06:35:35PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH I HAVE AT
06:35:37PM APPROXIMATELY 20 STORIES.
06:35:41PM I HAVE A MAP, I AM SORRY.
06:35:44PM YES, AT 20.
06:35:45PM 20 STORIES.
06:35:46PM CONSIDERED AS A PART OF THIS ANALYSIS IS -- IS NOT ONLY THAT
06:35:52PM BUILDING TO THE SOUTH, BUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS A
06:35:55PM PARTICIPANT OF THE PD.
06:35:56PM SO THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE GRANTED, ARE GRANTED BECAUSE IT
06:36:02PM IS A PART OF THIS OVERALL PD.
06:36:04PM SO WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN
06:36:09PM THIS PD IN 1010 AND WHAT IS ANTICIPATED IN THIS PARCEL.
06:36:13PM AS FAR AS SCALE AND MASSING, WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED.
06:36:15PM WHILE THEY ARE ASKING TO REZONE TO A PD AND PULL OUT THAT
06:36:20PM PARCEL, IF YOU WILL ON ITS OWN, FROM THIS ORIGINAL PD, IT IS
06:36:24PM STILL ORIGINATED HERE.
06:36:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:36:29PM CLENDENIN, MIRANDA AND THEN HURTAK.
06:36:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THEN I WILL TURN IT --
06:36:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BACK TO THAT MAP IF YOU CAN PUT IT UP
06:36:37PM THERE.
06:36:37PM I WASN'T HERE IN 2010.
06:36:39PM SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
06:36:43PM RIGHT NOW, THE PARCELS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED AS PHASE ONE, TWO
06:36:49PM AND THREE ARE ONE ZONING, ONE PD?
06:36:55PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
06:36:56PM THIS IS PHASE ONE.
06:36:57PM THIS --
06:36:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THROWING OUT THE PHASE ONE, TWO, THREE.
06:37:01PM LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP, THAT ENTIRE V OF A SHAPE OF A
06:37:05PM PARCEL IS ONE ZONING DISTRICT, ONE PD ZONING DISTRICT.
06:37:09PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
06:37:11PM THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED AND THE AREA ALSO HIGHLIGHTED IN
06:37:15PM PINK.
06:37:16PM RIGHT NOW THIS IS ALL ONE PD.
06:37:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT IS A NEW
06:37:20PM APPLICATION BEING HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME TO SINGLE OUT
06:37:24PM THIS ONE PARCEL AS A BRAND-NEW PD?
06:37:28PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
06:37:28PM THIS PARCEL IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
06:37:30PM IN ORDER TO DEVELOPMENT THIS PARCEL RIGHT NOW IS LIMITED AT
06:37:35PM THE HEIGHT OF 98 FEET.
06:37:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
06:37:37PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUES
06:37:40PM CORRECTLY.
06:37:41PM THE ALLEY -- I GUESS I CAN SAY SAVE THIS FOR TRANSPORTATION.
06:37:45PM BECAUSE I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THIS ALLEY AND THE WAIVER
06:37:47PM REQUEST.
06:37:47PM SO I WILL SAVE THAT FOR TRANSPORTATION.
06:37:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA, HURTAK.
06:37:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS HERE IN 2010.
06:37:54PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, SIR.
06:37:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WITH MY MIND GOING BACK 15 YEARS.
06:37:59PM I AM HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME.
06:38:00PM BUT I REMEMBER SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AREA.
06:38:02PM AND THERE WAS A LADY WHO HAD A HOUSE IN THE BACK OF IT.
06:38:07PM BEAUTIFUL TOWNHOUSE, BIG ONE.
06:38:09PM I GET STUCK.
06:38:10PM ALL I REMEMBER ABOUT IT.
06:38:11PM I WISH I CAN ROLL BACK THE COMPUTER AND GO BACK AND LOOK
06:38:16PM WHAT HAPPENED IN 2010.
06:38:17PM ALL THAT IS CODIFIED IN THE RECORDS.
06:38:19PM SO I DON'T SEE HOW I CAN DO THAT.
06:38:28PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I BELIEVE THERE IS A TRANSCRIPT OF THE
06:38:30PM HEARING.
06:38:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T SEE IT.
06:38:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I MEAN, I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK TO SEE --
06:38:37PM SEEING IF THAT ADJACENT USE IS STILL THERE?
06:38:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM TALKING OF THE WHOLE AREA, THE
06:38:42PM CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE THINGS BEING SHIFTED TO THIS
06:38:45PM PROPERTY HERE.
06:38:46PM WHAT WAS THAT PROPERTY TALKED ABOUT -- REZONING THE MASTER
06:38:51PM LOCATION THAT IS ATTACHED.
06:38:53PM >> THIS PARCEL HERE.
06:38:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, MA'AM.
06:38:56PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY ON THIS BEFORE THE
06:38:58PM REZONING.
06:39:01PM I AM NOT CERTAIN THE APPLICANT MAY KNOW A LITTLE MORE, BUT
06:39:05PM THIS -- THE REZONING, IT HAS BEEN PART OF THAT OVERALL.
06:39:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS WELLS.
06:39:12PM >>CATE WELLS: IF I MAY ASK COUNCIL TO -- YOU GET TO DECIDE
06:39:15PM THIS BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT EXIST TODAY, THE CODE THAT
06:39:19PM EXISTS TODAY OPPOSED TO WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THERE
06:39:23PM IN 2010.
06:39:23PM I WILL ASK TO YOU FOCUS ON BUT WHAT HEAR TODAY IN THE RECORD
06:39:26PM OF TODAY'S HEARING.
06:39:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:39:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR HER.
06:39:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
06:39:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
06:39:37PM CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE -- TO THE DEVELOPMENT, I GUESS, AT
06:39:40PM VERNON PLAT.
06:39:41PM YOU SAID THAT -- THE SOUTH -- THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS TO THE
06:39:46PM SOUTH.
06:39:46PM WHAT -- I AM -- I AM CONFUSED.
06:39:49PM I HEARD IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
06:39:50PM I SAW PHOTOS THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS DONE.
06:39:53PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN.
06:39:56PM YOU SAID HOW MANY STORIES BUT NOT HOW MANY FEET.
06:39:59PM >> SO THIS DEVELOPMENT -- I HAVE A PHOTO OF IT THAT THIS
06:40:06PM DEVELOPMENT HERE IS THE ONE YOU ARE REFERENCING.
06:40:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE SO.
06:40:10PM THAT IS THE ONE.
06:40:11PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: 20 FLOORS.
06:40:17PM I DON'T HAVE THE FEET ON IT.
06:40:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 345.
06:40:22PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: DO YOU HAVE THE FEET?
06:40:24PM OKAY, 274 FEET.
06:40:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
06:40:28PM AND WHEN WAS THAT APPROVED?
06:40:30PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THIS ONE -- SO THIS ONE ORIGINALLY WAS AN
06:40:33PM OLDER PD THAT HAD MULTIFAMILY ON IT.
06:40:36PM JUST HISTORICALLY ON THE SITE ITSELF, BUT IT HAS BEEN
06:40:40PM DEVELOPED MORE RECENTLY.
06:40:42PM BUT THIS ISN'T A RECENT PD.
06:40:45PM >> NOT A RECENT?
06:40:48PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: NO.
06:40:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR SOME REASON I HAVE GONE HEARING 2023.
06:40:52PM I APOLOGIZE.
06:40:53PM MY CONFUSION.
06:40:54PM SEPARATE QUESTION FOR -- FOR MISS WELLS.
06:40:57PM -- OH, ACTUALLY I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU FIRST.
06:41:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: OKAY, YES.
06:41:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU SAID -- CAN YOU, AGAIN, REPEAT THE
06:41:08PM PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND THE PARKING SPACES PROVIDED.
06:41:13PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, MA'AM, ABSOLUTELY.
06:41:15PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:41:18PM THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE 246 SPACES.
06:41:20PM AND THEY ARE PROVIDING 355 SPACES.
06:41:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS A DIFFERENCE OF.
06:41:30PM 100, GIVE OR TAKE.
06:41:32PM HOW MANY FLOORS DOES -- DO 100 PARKING SPACES TAKE UP?
06:41:40PM HOW OVERPARKED ARE THEY IN TERMS OF STORIES?
06:41:43PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I BELIEVE THE PARKING -- AND THE APPLICANT
06:41:45PM CAN CONFIRM -- IS LOCATED OF FLOORS TWO THROUGH SIX -- OR
06:41:50PM FLOORS TWO THROUGH SEVEN IS THE PARKING.
06:41:52PM JUST ONE SECOND.
06:41:54PM LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
06:41:56PM YES, SORE FLOORS TWO THROUGH EIGHT CONTAIN PARKING AND 9
06:42:04PM THROUGH 27 --
06:42:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO WE KNOW THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF SPACES PER
06:42:09PM FLOOR?
06:42:09PM OR MAYBE MR. SCOTT CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
06:42:11PM IF NOT, I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT.
06:42:13PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I DON'T KNOW THE AVERAGE -- I DON'T HAVE
06:42:16PM THAT AVERAGE.
06:42:17PM HOLD ON.
06:42:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SEEMS LIKE SHAVE OFF SOME STORIES THERE.
06:42:26PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION.
06:42:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT LATER.
06:42:33PM THEY ARE ON NOTICE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
06:42:36PM I APPRECIATE IT.
06:42:38PM THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
06:42:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
06:42:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO FOR MISS WELLS.
06:42:44PM IT'S BACK TO THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS AND WHAT IS BEFORE
06:42:50PM US TONIGHT.
06:42:51PM SO -- I -- I KEEP HEARING OF THIS PHASE ONE, TWO, THREE.
06:42:56PM AND THIS PROPERTY BEING ZONED.
06:42:57PM BUT WE ARE RIGHTFULLY SO, THE APPLICANT HAS THE RIGHT TO
06:43:01PM COME BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT TO PULL OFF A PIECE OF THIS AS
06:43:05PM A PD.
06:43:05PM AND WE ARE LISTENING TO THIS AS A STAND-ALONE HEARING BASED
06:43:09PM ON THE FACTS PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT ON THAT PARCEL.
06:43:12PM AM I FRAMING THAT CORRECTLY?
06:43:15PM >>CATE WELLS: AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE APPLICANT THROUGH THE
06:43:17PM SERIES OF SUB CHANGE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE FILED BETWEEN
06:43:21PM 2015 AND 2021 -- 2022, REQUESTED THE CITY TO REALLOCATE
06:43:29PM UNUSED SQUARE FOOTAGES FROM PHASES ONE AND TWO.
06:43:33PM AND THE CITY APPROVED THE ABILITY TO PLACE THAT ON PHASE
06:43:36PM THREE SUBJECT TO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING AND THE
06:43:44PM BUILDING ENVELOPE APPROVED FOR PHASE THREE IN 2010.
06:43:46PM SO THE HEIGHT WAS 98.
06:43:49PM YOU HAD A CERTAIN FOOTPRINT.
06:43:52PM AND WHAT THEY WERE ALLOW TO AT SOME POINT WAS REQUEST THE
06:43:58PM REALLOCATION OF THOSE UNITS.
06:43:59PM YOU ARE ALLOWED TO MOVE THEM TO PHASE THREE, BUT ALWAYS
06:44:02PM UNDERSTOOD THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS REZONING
06:44:05PM PROCESS TO ACTIVATE THOSE -- THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WASN'T
06:44:09PM BUILT OR AUTOPSIED ON PHASES ONE AND TWO.
06:44:11PM SO YOU STILL LOOK AT THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE
06:44:16PM OVERALL SITE PLAN.
06:44:18PM AND WHAT THAT OVERALL F.A.R. IS.
06:44:21PM WHILE IT IS STILL -- WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS INDEPENDENTLY
06:44:23PM AND JUST ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PHASE THREE, THAT SQUARE
06:44:27PM FOOTAGE IS COMING FROM THE OVERALL SITE PLAN THAT WAS
06:44:31PM APPROVED IN 2010 THAT INCLUDED ALL THREE PHASES.
06:44:33PM BY DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD SAY THIS IS A STAND ALONE.
06:44:36PM THIS -- THIS IS A -- THIS IS THE LAST REMAINING PORTION OF
06:44:41PM A PD SITE PLAN THAT THEY ARE NOW SEEKING TO CHANGE THE WAY
06:44:44PM IT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY
06:44:46PM APPROVED IN 2010.
06:44:48PM AND THAT CHANGE IS BASED ON THE UNUSED F.A.R. OR THE UNUSED
06:44:54PM SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM PHASES ONE AND TWO.
06:44:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO -- EXCUSE ME.
06:44:59PM SO HOW THIS WAS FILED WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD THAT WAS
06:45:06PM ISSUED IN 2010?
06:45:09PM >>CATE WELLS: OUR CODE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A PROCESS FOR
06:45:12PM FILING AN AMENDMENT TO A PD.
06:45:14PM IT IS FILED AS A NEW PD, BUT IT TIES BACK TO WHAT WAS
06:45:19PM APPROVED IN 2010.
06:45:21PM I BELIEVE ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, ARE REFERENCES THE
06:45:25PM HISTORY OF THE APPROVAL FOR THE OVERALL SITE.
06:45:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SAW THAT.
06:45:28PM I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXUS BETWEEN THAT WAS.
06:45:31PM IT SEEMS LIKE AN APPLICANT CAN COME BEFORE US AND SAY NOW I
06:45:34PM WANT TO BASICALLY FILE IT AS A NEW PD AND START FROM
06:45:38PM SCRATCH.
06:45:38PM THAT HAVE BEEN AN OPTION AS WELL?
06:45:42PM >>CATE WELLS: I WILL HAVE TO REFER TO STAFF, 309,000 SQUARE
06:45:45PM FEET OF BUILDING WILL BE ALLOWED ON THIS SITE ALONE WOULDN'T
06:45:50PM THE ABILITY TO BLEND THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE OVERALL
06:45:55PM THREE PHASES.
06:45:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
06:46:01PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT.
06:46:04PM I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN ONE MOMENT.
06:46:06PM WE FIND IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO LOADING SPACE WAIVER FOR THE
06:46:12PM MANEUVERING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
06:46:12PM THEY DIDN'T NEED A LOADING REDUCTION FOR THE NUMBER.
06:46:15PM THEY HAD IT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR THE SITE.
06:46:17PM NOW THIS SITE DID REQUIRE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
06:46:22PM DUE TONIGHT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND MITIGATION
06:46:25PM PAYMENT THEY WILL BE PAYING OF $31,589.
06:46:28PM AND THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION BENEFIT
06:46:31PM TO THE AREA ACROSS BAYSHORE.
06:46:33PM THEY ARE GOING TO ADD A CONCEPTUAL NOTE THAT HE WILL INSTALL
06:46:39PM A CROSSWALK AND SIDEWALK RAMPS AND FLASHING BEACONS OF
06:46:45PM REFUGE ISLANDS AND THIS WILL BE CONCEPTUAL.
06:46:49PM THESE ARE NOTES ADDED ON THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND
06:46:52PM SECOND READING.
06:46:53PM AND ONCE AGAIN, TRANSPORTATION.
06:46:56PM INCONSISTENT FINDS DUE TO THE LOADING AND MANEUVERING IN THE
06:47:01PM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
06:47:02PM YOU HAD A QUESTION ON THE ALLEY, I BELIEVE.
06:47:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DID.
06:47:05PM ON THAT VERY ISSUE.
06:47:06PM I AM CURIOUS.
06:47:07PM IT IS A HIGHLY CONGESTED AREA.
06:47:10PM CURRENT CONDITION AND USE THANK YOU ALLEY SERVICES HOW MANY
06:47:13PM PROPERTIES IN THERE?
06:47:14PM IS IT -- ACCESS ALLEY AND TRASH FROM OTHER ADJACENT
06:47:18PM PROPERTIES OR THE SOLE USE OF THIS ALLEY FOR THIS PARTICULAR
06:47:21PM PARCEL.
06:47:22PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: OTHER PROPERTIES DO USE THAT ALLEY.
06:47:25PM ROUGHLY -- THERE IS MORE THAN A FEW.
06:47:30PM I KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM COME INTO IT, BUT NOT SOLELY FOR
06:47:33PM THIS DEVELOPMENT.
06:47:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE PICTURES WE SAW, THAT ALLEY SEEMED
06:47:38PM LIKE A PRETTY SMALL ALLEY.
06:47:39PM SUFFICIENT FOR THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE PROJECT FOR THE
06:47:42PM TYPE OF USE.
06:47:43PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: IT IS LIKE 15 FEET WIDE.
06:47:46PM THEY WILL WIDEN IT A LITTLE BIT.
06:47:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY WILL ENHANCE THE ALLEY.
06:47:50PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: WE ASKED THEM FOR A TRANSPORTATION
06:47:51PM EASEMENT OF FIVE FEET AND SORT OF OFFICIAL PUBLIC.
06:47:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT KIND OF ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.
06:47:56PM I WAS LOOK AT THAT PICTURE AND SAYING THAT LOOKS AWFULL
06:48:00PM SMALL.
06:48:01PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THEY WILL MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.
06:48:02PM AND BENEFIT AS WELL.
06:48:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE REQUIRE MANEUVER, ONE CONTINUOUS
06:48:09PM MANEUVER AND THEY ARE NOT CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.
06:48:11PM IS -- WHACK IS THE REAL LIFE IMPACT OF THAT AND WHY DO WE
06:48:18PM HAVE THAT IN THE CODE?
06:48:20PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: WE HAVE THAT SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE
06:48:22PM LOADING ON THEIR PROPERTY AND MANEUVER ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
06:48:25PM LIKE -- THIS ONE -- THE LOADING SPACES ON THEIR PROPERTY AND
06:48:29PM BACKS OUT INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
06:48:30PM SO THAT IS WHAT THE CODE DOESN'T ALLOW IN THIS PART OF THE
06:48:34PM CITY.
06:48:34PM SOME PARTS LIKE DOWNTOWN AND SO FORTH.
06:48:37PM THEY ARE ALLOWED TO MANEUVER IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
06:48:39PM BUT IN THIS INSTANCE --
06:48:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A SERVICE ALLEY.
06:48:43PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: A LOW VOLUME.
06:48:45PM AND NOT THAT BIG OF AN IMPACT IF YOU WILL BACK OUT INTO A
06:48:49PM REAL BUSY ROAD OR WHATEVER.
06:48:50PM THE THAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT.
06:48:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION.
06:48:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:48:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ALLEY THEN TOO.
06:48:59PM DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS -- MISS DOCK, SISTER HAD A -- IS THIS
06:49:07PM A RENTAL -- IS THIS A RENTAL BUILDING OR A -- OR AN
06:49:13PM OWNERSHIP BUILDING?
06:49:15PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:49:17PM I BELIEVE IT WILL BE OWNERSHIP, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN
06:49:20PM CONFIRM.
06:49:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION FOR
06:49:23PM MANEUVERABILITY.
06:49:24PM I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED ON THIS COUNCIL BEFORE ABOUT
06:49:28PM MANEUVERABILITY BEING MORE IMPORTANT IN AN AREA THAT HAS
06:49:32PM RENTAL BECAUSE THEY ARE IN AND OUT MORE FREQUENTLY.
06:49:34PM DOES -- DOES -- DOES THE LOADING -- BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS
06:49:40PM CHANGING WITH THE ADVENT OF DELIVERY VEHICLES.
06:49:43PM THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED PART OF THE LOADING, CORRECT?
06:49:47PM LIKE, SAY, AN AMAZON TRUCK OR UPS.
06:49:52PM >> THAT IS NOT LIKE THE DELIVERY LOADINGS, BUT THICK GO IN
06:49:58PM THERE IF THEY NEEDED TO.
06:49:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
06:50:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: COUNCIL, JUST QUICKLY, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND
06:50:04PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:50:05PM I WANT TO PUNT ON THE RECORD AMEND THE REVISION SHEET.
06:50:09PM IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE UNDER THE PD
06:50:13PM CANNOT BE ADDED TO THE PD SITE PLAN.
06:50:15PM SO JUST FOR THE RECORD AND THE APPLICANT IS AWARE.
06:50:18PM AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
06:50:20PM WE ARE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:50:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:50:24PM MR. GARDNER, COME ON UP.
06:50:31PM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
06:50:34PM A LONG TIME COMING TO THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION AND THRILLED
06:50:37PM TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU.
06:50:38PM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:50:39PM HERE WE GO.
06:50:48PM FIRST, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE OUR TEAM THAT IS HERE TONIGHT.
06:50:52PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THESE ISSUES.
06:50:55PM CRESCENT RESOURCE IS MY CLIENT, THE DEVELOPER.
06:50:59PM RICKY DECAMPS IS HERE.
06:51:01PM IRONICALLY, CRESCENT WAS THE MASTER DEVELOPER OF BOTH PHASES
06:51:05PM ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
06:51:08PM SO EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A SALE, CRESCENT IS ACTUALLY COMING
06:51:13PM BACK TO DEVELOP THIS PARCEL WHICH IS PARCEL THREE.
06:51:16PM OUR CIVIL ENGINEER SCOTT GINER AND BENJAMIN PLANT OF
06:51:21PM KIMLEY-HORN.
06:51:22PM TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STEVE HENRY WITH LINKS AND ASSOCIATES.
06:51:25PM AND OUR ARBORIST, RICKY PETERIKA WITH DARK MOSS.
06:51:31PM THEN I KNOW ON THIS SLIDE, WHAT WAS ALLUDING TO WITH HIS
06:51:39PM ROLE AS THE PROMPT OWNER AND WANT NOTHING PROTECT HIS RIGHTS
06:51:44PM -- OR THEIR RIGHTS.
06:51:45PM WHAT LACHONE DID A GREAT JOB OF GOING OVER THE INTENSITY
06:51:49PM WHAT IS APPROVED VERSUS WHAT IS PROPOSED.
06:51:52PM APPROVED THROUGH THESE SUB-CHANGES IS 309,320 SQUARE FEET
06:52:00PM AND WE ARE PROPOSING EXACTLY THAT SAME NUMBER.
06:52:02PM WHAT MAKES THIS AN UNIQUE CASE, COMPLETELY UNIQUE FROM
06:52:05PM ANYTHING I HAVE BEEN PART OF -- TYPICALLY WE ARE IN FRONT OF
06:52:08PM YOU FOR A DEVELOPER AND TRYING TO ZONE UP TO WHAT THE CAMP
06:52:11PM PLAN ALLOWS.
06:52:12PM THIS INTENSITY IS ALREADY APPROVED.
06:52:14PM SO WE ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT ASKING YOU FOR ANY ENTITLEMENTS
06:52:19PM AT ALL.
06:52:19PM WITH RESPECT TO THE USE, THE USE THAT IS APPROVED IS
06:52:23PM MULTIFAMILY.
06:52:24PM THERE IS ONE CHANGE IN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WHICH IS
06:52:27PM PREDOMINANTLY MULTIFAMILY, BUT ALSO THROUGH OUR TALKS WITH
06:52:31PM ALL THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND STAKEHOLDERS, THEY
06:52:34PM WANTED A SMALL COMMERCIAL SITE.
06:52:36PM AND SO WE HAVE GOT ONE WHICH WE WILL SHOW YOU WHICH IS 2,000
06:52:39PM SQUARE FEET ON THE GROUND FLOOR TO ACTIVATE, FOR HAVE A
06:52:42PM LITTLE COFFEE SHOP OR A PLACE TO ENJOY A GLASS OF WINE.
06:52:46PM THAT WAS DONE AT THE REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:52:48PM SO THAT IS OUR ONLY CHANGE AS FAR AS USE, BUT THE
06:52:51PM PREDOMINANT USE IS MULTIFAMILY.
06:52:53PM ALSO, ANOTHER CHANGE IS THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL.
06:52:57PM I BELIEVE IT IS THE 2010 APPROVAL HAD OUR ACCESS ON VERN
06:53:01PM STREET.
06:53:02PM THROUGH TALKING WITH 345, THEY DID NOT WANT THAT ACCESS ON
06:53:07PM VERN STREET, SO WE AGREED TO MOVE THAT PRIMARY ACCESS POINT
06:53:10PM TO BEACH PLACE.
06:53:10PM AND THEN LASTLY, REALLY THE THRUST OF WHY WE ARE IN FRONT OF
06:53:15PM YOU TONIGHT OPINION CURRENT APPROVED HEIGHT IS 98 FEET AND
06:53:19PM WE ARE REQUESTING 274 FEET.
06:53:21PM OOPS.
06:53:22PM ON THIS SLIDE, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF THE
06:53:28PM AREA.
06:53:30PM WE ARE THE SITE THAT IS OUTLINED IN BLUE.
06:53:32PM AND YOU WILL NOTICE THE 345 CONDO TOWER TO OUR SOUTH.
06:53:39PM ONE BAYSHORE TOWER TO THE NORTH.
06:53:41PM AND CDB TO THE NORTH OF THAT.
06:53:44PM SO REALLY THIS SITE IS THE DOORSTEP, IF YOU WILL, TO
06:53:48PM THE CDB.
06:53:49PM AND WE THINK THIS IS WHY SO MUCH INTENSITY IN HEIGHT IS
06:53:53PM CONCENTRATED THERE TO PROVIDE RESIDENCE TO THE WORKERS IN
06:53:58PM THE CDB.
06:54:00PM AS RELAPSE TO OUR SITE PLAN, AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE THE 2150
06:54:06PM SQUARE FOOT GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL WHICH IS IN THE -- WHICH
06:54:09PM IS IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT, FULL.
06:54:12PM OUR TOTAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS IS 237.
06:54:14PM AGAIN UTILIZING 309,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH WE ARE ALLOWED TO
06:54:19PM -- THAT IS ALLOWED TO BE DIVIDED INTO WHATEVER THE NUMBER,
06:54:23PM AND THAT NUMBER WE ARE SETTLING WITH IS 237.
06:54:26PM THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WE ARE ASKING IS 274 FEET WHICH IS 25
06:54:31PM FLOORS.
06:54:31PM PARKING SPACES.
06:54:33PM WE HEARD PARKING WAS A CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORS.
06:54:36PM SO REQUIRED 246 PROVIDED 355.
06:54:39PM GREEN SPACE REQUIRED 3349.
06:54:44PM WE ARE ALMOST DOUBLING THAT TO THE PROPOSAL OF 6179 SQUARE
06:54:49PM IS FEET.
06:54:50PM THERE ARE ALSO TWO GRAND TREES.
06:54:52PM ONE IS ON THE SITE.
06:54:53PM ONE IS JUST OFF.
06:54:54PM AND BOTH OF THOSE GRAND TREES WILL BE PROTECTED AND
06:54:57PM PRESERVED.
06:54:58PM AND THEN WE ARE -- WE ARE GRATEFUL -- THIS HAPPENS BEEN A
06:55:03PM LONG TIME.
06:55:04PM AND WE WORKED YOUR STAFF RELENTLESSLY.
06:55:07PM AND GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF -- TRANSPORTATION DUE TO
06:55:15PM THE WAIVER.
06:55:15PM ADDIE CLARK FROM MY OFFICE WILL GO THROUGH THE WAIVERS AND
06:55:19PM WE BELIEVE THEY ARE JUSTIFIED AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE HEALTH
06:55:21PM OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN SAFETY.
06:55:23PM AND ALSO THE PLANNING COMMISSION -- NORTHWEST TO PUNT ANY
06:55:26PM WORDS IN THEIR MT. BUT WHAT THEY REVIEWED WAS THE 3306 FEET.
06:55:31PM IN MY OPINION THE 274 IS COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT.
06:55:35PM I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT HEIGHT A LITTLE LATER AND WANTED TO
06:55:37PM TRANSITION OVER TO ADDIE TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE TWO WAIVER
06:55:41PM REQUEST.
06:55:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, STATE YOUR NAME.
06:55:45PM >> ADDIE CLARK, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
06:55:47PM AS YOU SEE FROM STAFF, THE SITE PROPOSES GARAGE ACCESS ALONG
06:55:51PM BEACH PLACE.
06:55:52PM AND PROPOSES LOAD AND SOLID WASTE ACCESS VIA THAT ALLEY TO
06:55:57PM THE NORTH AND JONATHAN DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THAT.
06:56:01PM EXISTING 15-FEET-WIDE ALLEY BY AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FEET AND
06:56:09PM THE EASEMENT OF THAT AREA TO BE WIDENED.
06:56:11PM FOR SOME HISTORY, THE 2017 SITE PLAN REQUIRED THAT SOLID
06:56:16PM WASTE AND PUBLIC SERVICES BE ACCESSED FROM THE ALLEY.
06:56:18PM SO WE ARE SIMPLY CONTINUING THAT REQUIREMENT.
06:56:21PM AND IT IS ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE TO FOCUS THE LOADING AND
06:56:24PM SOUTHWEST TO IT THE BACK ALLEY AND AWAY FROM VERN, WHICH IS
06:56:27PM AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY AND AWAY FROM BEACH PLACE, WHICH IS
06:56:31PM WHERE OUR ACCESS IS PROPOSED.
06:56:32PM AND AS -- ALSO REQUESTED BY 345 RESIDENTS PRIOR TO THE
06:56:37PM ADDITIONAL FILING OF THIS APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE THE
06:56:40PM ACCESS ON BEACH PLACE RATHER THAN VERN.
06:56:43PM I WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT RENTAL UNITS IS WHAT
06:56:45PM WE ARE PROPOSING.
06:56:46PM MANEUVERING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS HE A COMMON REQUEST FOR
06:56:51PM THE PD SITE PLAN PROMISING MULTIFAMILY.
06:56:54PM COUNCIL IS PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEED FOR THE MANEUVERING
06:56:57PM IN.
06:56:57PM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND ALSO THE IMPORTANT OF HAVING SOLID
06:57:00PM WASTE AND LOADING ACTIVITY COMPLETELY CONTAINED ON-SITE AND
06:57:03PM WITHIN THE SITE BOUNDARY AS TO NOT BLOCK ANY TRAFFIC ON THE
06:57:09PM MAIN ROADWAYS.
06:57:10PM YOU CAN SEE THIS IN THE EXHIBIT THAT THERE IS SOME
06:57:13PM MANEUVERING IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ALL OF THAT ACTIVITY
06:57:16PM OCCUR ON SITE INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT BOUNDARY.
06:57:18PM I DID WANT TO CLARIFY VERY QUICKLY FOR DELIVERY AND STUFFER
06:57:22PM AND AMAZON -- I THINK I HAVE AMAZON COMING TO MY HOUSE
06:57:26PM MULTIPLE TIMES OF DAY, BUT FAMILIAR WITH A SERVICE CALLED
06:57:31PM "FETCH."
06:57:31PM NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT.
06:57:33PM BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AN OFF-SITE FACILITY WHERE
06:57:38PM RESIDENTS PACKAGES AND PROPERTY AND MANAGE CAN'T WORK WITH
06:57:41PM RESIDENTS TO GET TYPICAL NORMAL SEDAN-SIZED CARS TO PICK UP
06:57:46PM PACKAGES FROM AN OFFSITE FACILITY AND BRINGING THEM TO THE
06:57:49PM BUILDING SO YOU DON'T HAVE A BIG AMAZON TRUCK COMING IN
06:57:54PM MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.
06:57:56PM GOING TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES WAIVER, PROPOSING A FOUR-FOOT
06:58:00PM LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN GREEN INSTEAD OF A FIVE FOOT REQUIRED
06:58:03PM FOR THIS AREA TO THE NORTH.
06:58:04PM THAT IS ENTIRELY THE RESULT OF NEEDING TO WIDEN THAT ALLEY
06:58:08PM AS MENTIONED FOR BETTER MANEUVERABILITY, AS WELL AS FIRE
06:58:11PM ACCESS AND PROVIDING A FIVE-FOOT SIDEWALK.
06:58:14PM GIVEN THE 20-FOOT ALLEY AFTER WIDENING, THE FIVE-FOOT
06:58:18PM SIDEWALK AND A FOUR-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WE ARE
06:58:22PM EFFECTIVELY PROVIDING 29 FEET BETWEEN THE PROPERTY TO THE
06:58:26PM NORTH, WHILE BALANCING THAT NEED FOR THE ALLEY AND THE
06:58:29PM SIDEWALK TO BE WIDE ENOUGH FOR PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR
06:58:33PM CIRCULATION.
06:58:33PM I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING OVER ONE AND A HALF
06:58:37PM TIMES THE AMOUNT OF REQUIRED GREEN SPACE.
06:58:38PM SO THOUGH THEY BUFFER IS FOUR FEET INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED
06:58:42PM FIVE FEET, THE SITE WILL HAVE AMPLE LANDSCAPED AREA TO
06:58:48PM PRODUCE A BEAUTIFUL PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY STREETSCAPE.
06:58:52PM YES, SIR.
06:58:54PM >> TRUETT GARDNER.
06:58:56PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
06:58:57PM I AM GOING TO GO QUICKLY BECAUSE I WANT RICKY DECAMPS TO
06:59:01PM HAVE A SECOND TO SPEAK AS WELL.
06:59:03PM REALLY, I WANT TO FOCUS THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, IF YOU WILL,
06:59:06PM ON WHAT I THINK IS THE TRUE ISSUE WHICH IS HEIGHT.
06:59:09PM AS MENTIONED BEFORE, AND RICKY CAN GET INTO INITIALLY
06:59:13PM PROPOSING A 330-FOOT BUILDING AND NOW PROPOSING A 274-FOOT
06:59:19PM BUILDING WHICH MATCHES OUR BUILDING TO THE SOUTH.
06:59:21PM AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ENTITLEMENTS.
06:59:30PM ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE CONTEXT.
06:59:32PM 345, OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH.
06:59:37PM WE WILL BE WATCHING THAT.
06:59:38PM RECENTLY IN FRONT OF YOU REPRESENTING TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL
06:59:41PM ON DAVIS ISLAND IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE CHANNEL AND GOT
06:59:45PM APPROVED FROM CITY COUNCIL OF A BUILDING OF 280 FEET, HIGHER
06:59:48PM THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
06:59:50PM PARK SIDE AT ONE BAYSHORE TOWER 235.
06:59:53PM GOING TO THE CDB, THE PENRY SITE, FORMALLY THE TRUMP TOWER
07:00:01PM BUILDING, FULL AT 409 FEET.
07:00:04PM OTHER TOWERS, RITZ-CARLTON AT 349 FEET.
07:00:07PM SOUTH OF THIS FURTHER AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN, VIRAGE AT 269
07:00:13PM SOUTH OF ALTURA 2374.
07:00:16PM AND HYDE PARK HOUSE IN THE HYDE PARK DISTRICT AT 261 FEET.
07:00:20PM WE DO HAVE A LETTER ALREADY FROM FAA ISSUING A NO HEIGHT --
07:00:28PM DETERMINATION OF NO HAZARD FOR OUR PREVIOUS HEIGHT OF 330.
07:00:31PM OBVIOUSLY WE ARE COMING DOWN FROM THAT.
07:00:32PM THAT SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE CONSISTENT.
07:00:34PM AND THEN LASTLY, WHAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON.
07:00:38PM THIS IS A PD.
07:00:40PM IT IS A CUSTOM ZONING WHERE HEIGHTS ARE DETERMINED AS FAR AS
07:00:44PM WHAT YOU FEEL IS IT COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT.
07:00:47PM SUBJECT TO YOUR REVIEW AND BASED ON THE SURROUNDING
07:00:51PM VICINITY, THE FAA AND ALSO UTILIZING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:00:54PM AS YOUR GUIDE.
07:00:55PM AND WHAT I'M SHOWING HERE AND WHAT IS HIGHLIGHTED ARE THE
07:00:59PM RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, R-83 IS WHAT WE ARE.
07:01:02PM AND WHAT IT STATES IN THE HIGHLIGHT IS THAT IN R-83, THAT IS
07:01:09PM THE HIGH INTENSITY HIGH-RISE DESIGNATION, IF PULL.
07:01:15PM AND BUILDING TYPES SHOULD TYPICALLY BE AROUND 24 STORIES.
07:01:20PM INTERESTINGLY, THE CATEGORY UNDER THAT RES-50, MENTIONS THAT
07:01:24PM THOSE BUILDINGS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE EIGHT-STORY
07:01:27PM RANGE.
07:01:27PM WE ARE ALREADY THREE.
07:01:28PM AND WE BELIEVE WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT, WITH THE 25
07:01:32PM STORIES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
07:01:33PM AGAIN, USING THAT AS A GUIDE.
07:01:35PM AND THEN THIS WILL BE HELPFUL JUST TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT OF
07:01:43PM RECENT HEARINGS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE YOU ON TOWERS ON
07:01:47PM BAYSHORE AND WHAT THE CORRESPONDING COMP PLAN DESIGNATIONS
07:01:52PM WERE.
07:01:52PM THE RELATED RITZ TOWER HIGHER THAN WE ARE PROPOSING IN
07:01:58PM THE RES-50.
07:01:59PM STATES THE EIGHT-STORY RANGE.
07:02:01PM HYDE PARK HOUSES MATCHES US 286.
07:02:08PM AND THE RODEF SHALOM WAS R-35 SITE.
07:02:16PM WE ARE NOT R-35.
07:02:19PM NOT R-50.
07:02:21PM R AND LOWER DESIGNATION APPROVED AT 349 FEET.
07:02:29PM SO I THINK THAT KIND MUCH IS OUR CASE WHY WE FEEL THAT THE
07:02:33PM HEIGHT IS CONSISTENT AND SHOULD BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND
07:02:36PM WITH THE REMAINING TIME, TURN IT OVER TO RICKY DECAMPS WITH
07:02:40PM CRESCENT RESOURCES.
07:02:46PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
07:02:47PM >> RICARDO DECAMPS WITH CROSSING COMMUNITIES.
07:02:52PM WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
07:02:54PM AND AS YOU GUYS MAY KNOW, CRESCENT, WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY
07:03:02PM OF BUILDING HERE IN TAMPA AND HAVE DONE SO FOR 20 YEARS.
07:03:06PM INTEGRITY AND COMMITMENT AUTOMAKERS DOING WHAT WE SAY WE ARE
07:03:10PM GOING TO DO AND BUILDING THE BEST COMMUNITIES THAT WE CAN
07:03:12PM FOR THE CITY.
07:03:12PM MOST RECENTLY, NOVEL MIDTOWN TAMPA DID ONE BAYSHORE, TWO
07:03:20PM BAYSHORE AS WE MENTIONED MERE AND MOST RECENTLY NOVEL BEACH
07:03:23PM PARK.
07:03:23PM ONE OF THINGS WE CAME POOL IN THIS FROM THE GET-GO, OUR GOAL
07:03:27PM WAS TO BRING A RESIDENTIAL RENTAL COMMUNITY TO A PART OF THE
07:03:32PM CITY THAT IS COMPLETELY AND CONTROLLED BY MULTIMILLION
07:03:41PM DOLLAR CONDOS.
07:03:41PM THAT WAS OUR APPROACH HERE.
07:03:43PM WE START WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I SKIP DESIGN
07:03:48PM CONCEPT.
07:03:48PM WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:03:51PM WE SET OUT TWO YEARS AGO TO START WORKING WITH THE
07:03:54PM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND START TALKING TO THEM REPRESENTING
07:03:57PM THAT YOU ARE PROJECT, LISTENING TO THEM OF WHAT THEY ASKED
07:03:59PM US TO DO.
07:04:00PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS PLEASE RELOCATE
07:04:04PM THE INGRESS AND EGRESS LOCATION, WHICH WE DID, OFF OF VERN
07:04:09PM AND ON CONTINUE TO BEACH PLACE.
07:04:10PM THEY -- 345 FROM THE GET-GO WERE CONCERNED OF THEIR VIEWS.
07:04:17PM ONLY THING THEY MENTION INLAND OUR FIRST MEETING WITH THEM
07:04:19PM WAS CONCERN OF BLOCKING VIEWS TO DOWNTOWN, WHICH WE HEARD
07:04:23PM AND PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION, WE MADE A CHANGE
07:04:27PM DURING THE PROCESS TO IMPROVE -- TO BASICALLY SWITCH OUR
07:04:30PM BUILDING ORIENTATION TO ALLOW FOR THE PROTECTION OF THOSE
07:04:33PM VIEWS.
07:04:34PM IN ADDITION, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU MENTIONED WHY ARE WE
07:04:40PM SO HIGH WITH PARK SOMETHING IN WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS
07:04:42PM CONSTRAIN OUR SITE, WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE SOME GRAND
07:04:46PM TREELESS.
07:04:46PM PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY CONNECTIVITY.
07:04:56PM ALL OF THOSE THINGS EAT INTO THE SETBACKS OF OUR BUILDING,
07:05:00PM SHRINKING THE BUILDABLE FOOTPRINT ON OUR SITE.
07:05:03PM .79 ACRES LOT LINE TO HOSPITAL LINE.
07:05:07PM AS WE START EATING INTO THAT, YOU HAVE TO GET HIGHER -- YOU
07:05:12PM KNOW THE HEIGHT HAS TO COME SOMEWHERE TO FIT WHAT YOU NEED
07:05:15PM TO FIT ON THE SITE.
07:05:16PM GROUND FLOOR ACTIVATION WAS CRITICAL WHEN JUST BASED ON
07:05:20PM EXPERIENCE ON THE DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE DONE.
07:05:21PM AS YOU HAVE SEEN, OUR PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY.
07:05:24PM WE ARE VERY KEEN ON INTEGRATING LANDSCAPE AND INTEGRATING
07:05:29PM TREES INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
07:05:30PM SO WHEN THEY ASKED ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR A GRAND FLOOR
07:05:34PM ACTIVATION, WE SAW THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY OF PRESERVING THAT
07:05:38PM GRAND OAK AND BUILDING OUR COMMERCIAL THERE BECAUSE THE
07:05:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD WAS SAYING I DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO AND HANG
07:05:44PM OUT WHEN I AM ON BAYSHORE.
07:05:45PM AND THE LAST THING IS SAFETY.
07:05:48PM SAFETY IS AN ISSUE.
07:05:50PM AND THE COMMUNITY HAD ASKED FOR A PEDESTRIAN WEAKEN TO CROSS
07:05:57PM BAYSHORE THAT WE WILL GLADLY ABIDE BY.
07:05:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:06:01PM >> THANK YOU.
07:06:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I HAVE A QUESTION OF MORE -- I HAVE THE
07:06:07PM QUESTION, HOW MANY CARS ON EACH FLOOR FOR PARK SOMETHING IN.
07:06:10PM >> OUR MATH WHIZ KID IS BEHIND US.
07:06:13PM 48 IS THE NUMBER.
07:06:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO BASICALLY YOU COULD SAVE OFF TWO FLOORS --
07:06:17PM TWO FLOORS JUST BY RIGHT SIZE PARKING THIS DEVELOPMENT?
07:06:23PM >> I WILL LET RICKY SPEAK GIVEN CRESCENT'S EXTENSIVE
07:06:27PM EXPERIENCE WHAT THEY NEED.
07:06:27PM I THINK THEY ARE OVERPARKED AND WILL BE FOLLOWING REDUCE
07:06:30PM THAT.
07:06:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, AND THIS IS WHY.
07:06:32PM ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TRIED TO SELL US ON IS THE FACT -- IT
07:06:37PM IS TRUE.
07:06:37PM YOU ARE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT,
07:06:40PM WHICH DOES NOT HAVE ANY PARKING MINIMUMS.
07:06:44PM SO THE FACT YOU ARE SO OVERPARKED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE
07:06:49PM BRIDGE, I THINK IT WILL SETTLE WHITE A FEW THINGS.
07:06:51PM ONE, BRINGING SOME STORIES DOWN TO TRY TO FIND A SPACE THAT
07:06:55PM THE COMMUNITY CAN BE HAPPY WITH.
07:06:56PM AND THEN ALSO, RIGHT SIZING THE DEVELOPMENT FOR AUTOMOBILES.
07:07:02PM >> IF YOU WOULD, I -- THAT IS ABOVE MY PAY RAISE ON ACTUALLY
07:07:07PM COMMITTING TO THAT, BUT I WILL BE HAPPY TO TALK TO RICKY ON
07:07:10PM THAT.
07:07:10PM AND I KNOW AGAIN THEIR EXPERIENCE, THEY HAVE A RATIO THAT
07:07:13PM THEY NEED.
07:07:14PM BUT I DO THINK THAT WE ARE OVERPARKED.
07:07:16PM REALLY KIND OF IN RESPONSE TO THE NEIGHBORS AND THEM
07:07:20PM MENTIONING THERE IS A NEED FOR PARKING.
07:07:23PM THEY DON'T WANT TO CONFLATE THE PROBLEM, I CAN BE BACK ON
07:07:27PM WHAT THAT CAN REASONABLY BE AND MAKE THEIR DEVELOPMENT WORK.
07:07:30PM HE HAS ALREADY GOT IT.
07:07:31PM >> SO, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOUR 100% RIGHT.
07:07:34PM WE ARE SO CLOSE TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
07:07:37PM THE -- I TELL YOU, ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS OF THE
07:07:40PM NEIGHBORHOOD WAS PARKING.
07:07:41PM THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE PARKING AND PARKING AND PARKING.
07:07:47PM SO TYPICALLY, A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY HAS TO PARK AT A RATIO
07:07:52PM THAT IS HIGHER THAN CITY CODE.
07:07:53PM 1.5 UNITS -- PARKING SPACES PER UNIT, OKAY.
07:07:59PM SO OBVIOUSLY THERE IS GOING TO BE -- IF YOU HAVE A
07:08:03PM ONE-BEDROOM UNIT, YOU KNOW, ONE-BEDROOM UNIT.
07:08:06PM IF YOU HAVE A ONE-PERSON RESIDENT THERE, THEY ARE PROBABLY
07:08:09PM NOT GOING TO HAVE TWO CARS AND WE WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO
07:08:12PM HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAR.
07:08:13PM BUT IF YOU HAVE A COUPLE SHARING A UNIT, MOST LIKELY THERE
07:08:17PM ARE TWO CARS INTO ONE BEDROOM.
07:08:19PM WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS HINT THAT 1.5 RATIO WHICH IS WHAT IS
07:08:24PM INDUSTRY NORM.
07:08:25PM WHAT HAPPENED WE ARE DOING ON THIS PROPERTY, WE ARE ACTUALLY
07:08:29PM AT 174 RATIO ON THIS PROPERTY AND BROUGHT THAT DOWN -- 1.4
07:08:35PM RAY THEO ON THIS PROPERTY AND BROUGHT THAT DOWN LISTENING TO
07:08:38PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING TO ENSURE THAT NO
07:08:41PM ONE IS PARKING ON THE STREETS AND HEARING THEIR CONCERNS
07:08:43PM AUTOMAKERS.
07:08:44PM I WILL PAUSE THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY
07:08:46PM HAVE.
07:08:46PM YOUR ANSWER -- SORRY, WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING LOOK AT HOW CAN
07:08:50PM WE REDUCE THAT.
07:08:51PM WE STILL NEED TO BE ABLE TO FINANCIALS A PROJECT,
07:08:56PM CONSTRUCTION LENDERS REQUIRE A CERTAIN RATIO AND CAN WORK
07:09:00PM THROUGH THAT.
07:09:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS EXACTLY IT.
07:09:03PM LENDERS REQUIRE A RATIO, IN WALKING DISTANCE TO DOWNTOWN AND
07:09:08PM A GROCERY STORE.
07:09:09PM THIS IS THE AREA WE ARE TALKING OF DEVELOPING WALKABILITY.
07:09:12PM UP APPRECIATE -- IT JUST HELPS ME TO KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY
07:09:16PM SPACES PER FLOOR TO HELP LOOK AT REALLY WHAT THE OVERAL
07:09:20PM MASS AND SCALING FOR THE BLOCK IS.
07:09:22PM >> IN ADDITION, CBD IS IMPORTANT, BUT WE ARE ACROSS THE
07:09:28PM STREET FROM TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.
07:09:31PM OUR RESIDENTS MAY BE LIVING THERE AND YES, THEY CAN WORK
07:09:37PM WALK THERE.
07:09:38PM AND THROUGHOUT THE NORTHEAST AND URBAN AREAS, WE INCENTIVIZE
07:09:42PM OUR RESIDENTS TO TAKE A CREDIT TO NOT HAVE A CAR.
07:09:45PM AND SO SOMETHING THAT WE DO IN OUR OPERATIONS.
07:09:49PM YOU ASKED EARLIER ABOUT HOW WE HANDLE DELIVERIES.
07:09:53PM AND I WANT TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR ON THAT.
07:09:56PM OUR -- OUR COMPANY HAS BEEN VERY, VERY ADAMANT ON -- NO ONE
07:10:06PM HATES MORE THAN I DO -- OR MORE THAN OUR COMPANY AN AMAZON
07:10:11PM TRUCK DRIVER PARKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND I DID
07:10:14PM LIVING PACKAGES BETWEEN 2 P.M. DURING RUSH HOUR.
07:10:18PM EVERY PROPERTY HERE IN THIS, WE USE A THIRD PARTY SERVICE
07:10:21PM THAT CONSOLIDATES THAT IS OFFSITE, ALL OF THE PACKAGES FROM
07:10:25PM OUR RESIDENT GETS DELIVERED TO A THIRD PARTY SITE AND YOUR
07:10:29PM RESIDENTS CAN DICTATE WHEN THOSE PACKAGES CAN BE DELIVERED
07:10:32PM IN A CONCIERGE SERVICE.
07:10:36PM THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COME IN BOX TRUCKS OR BIG TRUCKS.
07:10:38PM A PACKAGE THAT IS TOO BIG TO FIT IN A SEDAN OR SUV, THE
07:10:43PM RESIDENT HAS TO GO TO THAT FACILITY AND PICK IT UP AND
07:10:47PM ARRANGE DELIVERY BY A THIRD PARTY GROUP AT A FEE.
07:10:50PM THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THAT OUT OF THERE.
07:10:51PM SOMETHING I WANTED TO CREATE.
07:10:53PM WE HAVE BEEN LEADING THAT.
07:10:55PM OUR MOST RECENT PROJECT NOVEL BEACH PARK THAT OPENED.
07:10:59PM AND YOU KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT IT HAS THAT -- HAS THAT PROGRAM
07:11:03PM IN PLACE.
07:11:04PM STAND HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.
07:11:06PM EVEN OUR GARDEN-STYLE COMMUNITIES ARE MORE SUBURBAN
07:11:12PM COMMUNITIES ARE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
07:11:13PM SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AS WELL.
07:11:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ONLY QUESTION AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW
07:11:20PM THE EXACT FIGURE.
07:11:21PM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING -- AND YOU CAN CENT ME, BALLPARK FOR A
07:11:25PM PARKING STRUCTURE IS ABOUT $30,000 A SPACE?
07:11:28PM >> ABOUT $30,000 TO $35,000 SPACE.
07:11:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GONE UP.
07:11:34PM NOT SURPRISING.
07:11:35PM >> CONSTRUCTION GONE UP.
07:11:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS A REAL -- I AM LOOKING AT THAT THE --
07:11:40PM THAT HAS TO BE A COST FOR YOU.
07:11:41PM ANYWAY, SOMETHING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT.
07:11:44PM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
07:11:46PM >> AGAIN, IT IS THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE SITE, THE
07:11:50PM TIGHTENING OF THE SITE TO PROVIDE EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN
07:11:53PM CYCLED TO PROVIDE IS WHAT IS LIMITING THAT.
07:11:55PM YES, IF WE CAN BRING THAT DOWN TO A RATIO THAT HE IS
07:12:00PM AGREEABLE THAT WE CAN GET FINANCED, YEAH, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY
07:12:03PM FOR IT.
07:12:03PM I THINK YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE -- YOU JUST CAN'T SLASH ONE
07:12:07PM THING.
07:12:07PM ALMOST LIKE YOU GOT TO CHIP AT IT IN MANY DIRECTIONS.
07:12:11PM THAT IS HOW WE DO IT AND THE APPROACH WE HAVE TAKEN AT
07:12:14PM CRESCENT COMMUNITIES.
07:12:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
07:12:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE, MR. GARDNER.
07:12:23PM YOU HAD A SLIDE UP ABOUT PRESENTING A DEVELOPER'S
07:12:29PM ENTITLEMENT ON THIS.
07:12:30PM YOU HAD A FIGURE OF -- OF YOUR ENTITLED TO DEVELOP 309,329
07:12:37PM SQUARE FEET ON THE PROPERTY. CAN YOU PUT THAT IN CONTEXT OF
07:12:43PM THE TOTAL ENTITLEMENTS.
07:12:45PM WHAT YOU CAN BUILD -- YOUR INTERPRETATION WHAT YOU CAN BUILD
07:12:49PM UNDER THE CURRENT PD?
07:12:51PM >> SO WHAT -- WHAT HAPPENED.
07:12:53PM I THINK I AM ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION PLEASE TELL ME IF I AM
07:12:57PM NOT.
07:12:57PM REALLY THINK OF THIS AS CRESCENT -- THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT.
07:13:03PM FIRST DEVELOPMENT IS ONE BAYSHORE.
07:13:05PM THAT IS THE TOWER.
07:13:06PM SECOND DEVELOPMENT IS TWO BAYSHORE.
07:13:09PM THEN WHAT HAPPENED, CRESCENT HAD A POOL OF ENTITLEMENTS THAT
07:13:16PM LEFT US LAST SITE.
07:13:17PM WHAT WE DID DURING THOSE TWO SUB CHANGES AS MISS WELLS
07:13:20PM MENTIONED AND THE WORD IS CORRECT, WE ALLOCATED THOSE UNUSED
07:13:25PM ENTITLEMENTS TO THIS SITE, SO LONG WAY OF ANSWERING YOUR
07:13:29PM QUESTION.
07:13:29PM BUT WHAT CAN BE DONE BECAUSE THROUGH THOSE SUB CHANGES, TIED
07:13:33PM TO THAT PD IS 309P, 329.
07:13:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THOSE SUB CHANGES TRANSFERRED ENOUGH
07:13:46PM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR AN ENTITLEMENT OF 309,329.
07:13:51PM BUT WHAT CAN YOU BUILD IN THAT -- BECAUSE SHE ALSO -- MISS
07:13:56PM WELLS GAVE US A TALK OF THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.
07:13:59PM CAN YOU FIT 309,329 FEET INTO A BUILDING ENVELOPE THAT YOU
07:14:05PM ARE CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR.
07:14:06PM >> THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.
07:14:08PM WITH THE 98 FEET, THE 309,000 WE ARE ENTITLED TO JUST
07:14:14PM DOESN'T FIT WITHIN 98 FEET.
07:14:17PM WE ALWAYS KNEW WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL
07:14:19PM REQUESTING THAT HEIGHT.
07:14:20PM BUT WHAT WE DID IS THROUGH THE SUB CHANGE DETERMINATIONS
07:14:25PM WHICH YOU NOTE ARE, ONE, NOTICED AND TWO, APPEAL PERIODS
07:14:31PM GIVEN FOR EACH.
07:14:31PM NOT DONE WITH THE DARKNESS OF NIGHT.
07:14:34PM BOTH NOTICED.
07:14:40PM THREE TIMES AND WE KNEW WE WOULD BE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH
07:14:43PM ADDITIONAL CANDY AND THE ONLY AVENUE TO DO THAT WITH A
07:14:48PM REZONING REQUEST.
07:14:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:14:50PM AND NOW WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:14:52PM I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP AND A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE
07:14:55PM SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS.
07:14:56PM FIRST SPEAKER IS MICHAEL SHEA WHO HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM
07:15:01PM WITH SEVEN PEOPLE.
07:15:02PM SIR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GIVE THAT SPEAKER WAIVER FORM TO
07:15:07PM THE ATTORNEY.
07:15:07PM THE ATTORNEY WILL READ THE NAMES AND SEE IF THEY ARE HERE.
07:15:10PM THERE WE GO.
07:15:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN --
07:15:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLD ON, MR. SHELBY.
07:15:24PM WHAT HAPPENED?
07:15:26PM IS ANYBODY GOING TO BE SPEAKING THAT WAS NOT SWORN IN
07:15:29PM EARLIER THIS EVENING WHEN WE ALL STOOD UP AND WERE SWORN?
07:15:34PM I SAW PEOPLE LEAVE AND COME BACK, BUT IT WAS THE SAME
07:15:37PM PEOPLE.
07:15:37PM THIS IS THE FIRST BATCH.
07:15:39PM SO AFTER THIS GROUP, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A TEN-MINUTE
07:15:42PM RECESS TO ALLOW THE NEXT GROUP THAT IS WAITING DOWNSTAIRS TO
07:15:45PM SPEAK BECAUSE WE HAVE ONLY SO MUCH ROOM IN HERE.
07:15:47PM MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD.
07:15:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
07:15:50PM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE DO
07:15:53PM ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE.
07:15:55PM AND, ALSO, THANK YOU MR. SHEA.
07:15:59PM I NOTICED YOU PUT NUMBER ONE IN THE BOX OVER THERE.
07:16:02PM WHEN YOU COME UP WITH YOUR NUMBER, PLEASE BEFORE YOU BEGIN
07:16:05PM SPEAKING, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU PLACE YOUR NUMBER IN THAT BOX
07:16:08PM SO WE KEEP ALL OF THEM FOR NEXT TIME.
07:16:13PM PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE.
07:16:15PM IS IT JOE HARNIN?
07:16:18PM I DID SAY THAT -- HANNAH?
07:16:20PM >> RIGHT THERE IN SECURITY CHECK.
07:16:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE NEEDS TO BE HERE.
07:16:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE THROUGH HANNAH?
07:16:26PM THANK YOU.
07:16:27PM [APPLAUSE]
07:16:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DEAN HOWSER.
07:16:33PM >> YES.
07:16:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
07:16:35PM THOMAS HUGHES.
07:16:37PM >> PRESENT, SIR.
07:16:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
07:16:39PM NICK CASHON.
07:16:41PM >> PRESENT.
07:16:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CINDY NONIAK.
07:16:45PM >> HERE.
07:16:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: RYAN LOHNMAN.
07:16:49PM AND CATHY DIBOLD.
07:16:51PM >> HERE.
07:16:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES.
07:16:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
07:16:56PM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL SHEA, I LIVE AT 6301 BAYSHORE,
07:17:01PM BOULEVARD, TAMPA, 33611.
07:17:04PM I WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT CHARLIE MIRANDA IS ONE
07:17:08PM YEAR OLDER THAN ME.
07:17:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT MAKES YOU 30 YEARS OLD.
07:17:15PM HE IS 29.
07:17:16PM >> I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING THE HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN
07:17:23PM CIVIC CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
07:17:26PM AND I THINK IT IS GERMANE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND MY BACKGROUND.
07:17:30PM I WAS BORN IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND I ATTENDED PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
07:17:36PM I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
07:17:39PM I STUDIED POLITICAL SCIENCE.
07:17:40PM I MAJORED IN STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
07:17:44PM THE MOST NOTABLE THING I DID IN LAW SCHOOL WAS TO HAVE H.L.
07:17:51PM MOFFITT AS MY ROOMMATE.
07:17:53PM HOWEVER, AFTER GRADUATING FROM USF, I HAD A JOB WITH AN
07:18:01PM OUTFIT CALLED THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY-COUNTY PLANNING
07:18:04PM COMMISSION.
07:18:04PM I WAS A CITY PLANNER HERE WHEN WE WERE STARTING CITY
07:18:09PM PLANNING.
07:18:09PM I PARTICIPATED IN WRITING THE PARKS AND RECREATION STUDY OF
07:18:15PM THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN.
07:18:18PM I WAS ALMOST FINISHED WITH IT WHEN I WAS ACCEPTED TO F SU
07:18:26PM LAW SCHOOL.
07:18:26PM I WENT IN TO TELL MARTIN SMITH I WAS RESIGNING.
07:18:30PM AND HE WOULD NOT LET ME RESIGN.
07:18:31PM HE SAID YOU HAVE TO FINISH THE PARK PARKS AND RECREATION
07:18:35PM STUDY.
07:18:35PM I WILL PAY YOU WHILE YOU GO TO LAW SCHOOL.
07:18:38PM SO I WENT OFF TO TALLAHASSEE AND I FINISHED THE ORIGINAL
07:18:47PM PARKS AND RECREATION STUDY FOR TAMPA.
07:18:50PM IT WAS SUBMITTED IN 1967 AND ADOPTED.
07:18:54PM FROM THERE, I GRADUATED WITH A JURIS DOCTORATE FROM FSU AND
07:19:04PM MUCH TO MY SURPRISE A FULL SCHOLARSHIP FROM URBAN REGIONAL
07:19:08PM PLANNING TO STUDY PLANNING IN A POST DOCTORAL PROGRAM.
07:19:12PM I DID.
07:19:12PM WHEN I GRADUATED, WENT TO MILE SMITH AND ASSOCIATES, CITY
07:19:16PM PLANNING CONSULTANTS AND WRITE PLANNING AND ZONING DOCUMENTS
07:19:20PM FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
07:19:21PM I WROTE AND PARTICIPATED WITH THE APPLICANTS TEAM THAT WROTE
07:19:29PM IN KEY WEST AND 27 CITIES IN BETWEEN.
07:19:31PM I WORKED ON THE TAMPA CITY ORDER -- ORDINANCE AND
07:19:42PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
07:19:42PM I REPRESENTED CONTRACTORS, SUBCONTRACTORS FOR MANY YEARS.
07:19:46PM I DID A LIFE CHANGE AND BECAME A MARITIME LAWYER AND MANY
07:19:50PM YEARS I REPRESENTED SHIPYARDS AND SEAMEN AND PEOPLE LIKE
07:19:55PM THAT.
07:19:55PM BUT I LIKE TO USE MY TRAINING AS A PLANNER.
07:19:58PM SOME YEARS AGO, I SEMI RETIRED WENT TO WORK FOR ST.
07:20:07PM MICHAEL'S LEGAL CENTER FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
07:20:09PM I'M HERE AS PART OF THAT OUTFIT NOW.
07:20:10PM WE FEEL WE SHOULD HELP COMMUNITIES AND CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS IN
07:20:17PM THIS PLAN PROCESS.
07:20:18PM I WAS PART OF THE TEAM THAT WROTE THE ORIGINAL BALLAST POINT
07:20:23PM NEIGHBORHOOD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:20:24PM I AM IN THE PROCESS OF HELPING THE RIVER BEND CIVIC
07:20:27PM ASSOCIATION WHICH YOU DENIED A PETITION ON LAST MONTH.
07:20:30PM I AM ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING HERE TONIGHT THE HYDE
07:20:36PM PARK GROUP.
07:20:36PM SO I AM A PERSON THAT BELIEVES IN, FIRST OF ALL, GOULD CITY
07:20:41PM PLANNING.
07:20:41PM I AM GOING TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I THINK ARE SOME OF THE
07:20:44PM PROBLEMS WITH THIS PETITION.
07:20:46PM NUMBER ONE, THE STAFF AND THE CITY AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION
07:21:01PM HAVE SOME INCONSISTENCIES.
07:21:03PM THERE ARE SOME STRANGE PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS GOING ON
07:21:07PM HERE.
07:21:08PM NUMBER ONE, I THINK THERE HAS BEEN TOO MANY CONTINUANCES.
07:21:11PM I WILL GO THROUGH THAT.
07:21:12PM I ALSO THINK THAT THERE ARE -- THERE IS -- THIS IS A MAJOR
07:21:17PM CHANGE.
07:21:17PM A THIRD PHASE -- SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
07:21:26PM I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THIS WAY, LEGALLY.
07:21:29PM THE OTHER THING IS, THERE IS A REAL CONCERN ABOUT UNIFIED
07:21:32PM CONTROL.
07:21:33PM YOUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT BE
07:21:38PM DEVELOPED IN THE SAME DEVELOPER.
07:21:39PM THE PETITIONER IS NOT -- WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER.
07:21:43PM THAT IS A LEGAL PROBLEM.
07:21:44PM AND THE CITY -- AND THE CITY STAFF CAN'T WAIVE THAT.
07:21:48PM THAT IS STILL TODAY A LEGAL PROBLEM.
07:21:51PM NEXT ONE IS TRANS OFFICER OF DEVELOPMENT OF DEVELOPMENT
07:21:54PM RIGHTS.
07:21:54PM I THINK THAT IS NOT TRANSFERABLE.
07:21:57PM I WILL THINK ABOUT IT.
07:21:59PM HERE YOU HAVE -- MR. GARDNER SAID WE ARE THE ORIGINAL
07:22:03PM DEVELOPER AND TRANSFERRING THESE FROM BAYSHORE ONE AND
07:22:07PM BAYSHORE TWO.
07:22:07PM THEY DON'T OWN BAYSHORE ONE.
07:22:10PM THEY DON'T OWN BAYSHORE TWO.
07:22:12PM BAYSHORE ONE.
07:22:14PM BAYSHORE TWO.
07:22:15PM ALL THOSE RESIDENTS STILL OWN THOSE TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT
07:22:19PM RIGHTS.
07:22:19PM I WAS CONFUSED AS TO WHETHER THIS IS AN ORIGINAL NEW
07:22:23PM PETITION AND IN WHICH CASE, YOU CAN'T TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT
07:22:27PM RIGHTS OR AN AMENDMENT TO A UNIT DEVELOPMENT IN WHICH CASE
07:22:33PM YOU GOT TO KNOW WITH WHAT YOU HAD WHICH IS AN EIGHT-STORY,
07:22:38PM MUCH SMALLER BUILDING, SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS BUILT IN PHASE
07:22:44PM TWO.
07:22:45PM WE LOOK AT ALL THIS, WE FIND THAT THE BACKGROUND OF?
07:22:53PM -- OF THIS PLAN STARTED AT IT WAS ORIGINALLY 11.
07:22:59PM I THINK THAT IS STILL WHAT WE -- WHAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO
07:23:01PM BUILD.
07:23:01PM THE STAFF REPORT AND THE COUNTY SAY THAT IT IS INCONSISTENT
07:23:07PM WITH THE DENSITY OF R-3.
07:23:13PM IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
07:23:15PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL GUIDANCE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
07:23:21PM PLAN FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:23:22PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE MAJOR CHANGES
07:23:25PM LIKE THIS, AT THE CONCLUSION OF READING ONE, YOU GOT TO GO
07:23:29PM BACK AND DO READING ONE ALL OVER AGAIN.
07:23:31PM SO ALL THESE CHANGES WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE STAFF FOR
07:23:35PM A RE-READ.
07:23:36PM AND WE WILL HAVE TO DO THIS OVER AGAIN.
07:23:39PM I THINK THAT IS WHAT IS REQUIRES.
07:23:40PM SO WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL OF THIS, WE FIND THAT IT IS A REAL
07:23:45PM STRANGE APPLICATION.
07:23:46PM I CAN REMEMBER WHEN WE MET -- WE MET MANY TIMES WITH THE
07:23:50PM DEVELOPER.
07:23:50PM I PROBABLY HAVE 30 OR 40 HOURS OF TIME WITH MEETING WITH
07:23:55PM THEM, BOTH WITH THE PEOPLE AT BAYSHORE ONE AND THE PEOPLE AT
07:24:01PM 345.
07:24:01PM AND HYDE PARK PEOPLE.
07:24:03PM MR. DECAMPS SENT US A MESSAGE AND AN E-MAIL SAYING FOLLOWING
07:24:09PM OUR MEETING -- THIS WAS ON JANUARY 17.
07:24:12PM FOLLOWING OUR MEETING, WE CONVENED WITH THE CITY OFFICIALS
07:24:19PM YESTERDAY WHO REQUESTED WE HOLD IN RESERVE OUR SITE PLANS
07:24:25PM SUBMIT BETWEEN THE SECOND -- THE FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:24:27PM YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
07:24:29PM I THINK THAT THAT IS A PROCEDURAL MATTER THAT YOU PROBABLY
07:24:34PM SHOULD ASK THIS GENTLEMAN OVER HERE WHO IS AN ATTORNEY AND
07:24:38PM ASK HIM WHAT THE PROCEDURE HURDLES ARE AS FAR AS THIS IS
07:24:43PM CONCERNED.
07:24:43PM SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
07:24:45PM AS FOR THE -- AS FOR THE CONDITIONS THAT THE -- THE BUILDING
07:24:53PM -- THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO CHANGE.
07:24:56PM THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING.
07:24:57PM INGRESS, EGRESS.
07:24:59PM WIDENING THE ALLEY.
07:25:01PM THE CROSSWALK ON BAYSHORE.
07:25:04PM PARKING SPACE.
07:25:10PM AND A NUMBER OF PERTINENT ORDINANCES THAT I WILL SKIP THAT
07:25:14PM WILL ADDRESS ALL OF THESE THINGS.
07:25:15PM SOME I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE LOOK AT THE UNIFIED
07:25:20PM OWNERSHIP, WE HAVE REAL PROBLEMS HERE.
07:25:21PM YOU CAN'T COME IN AND SAY I WANT THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT
07:25:25PM RIGHTS AND, OH, YEAH, HE WAS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER.
07:25:28PM NO THEY WEREN'T.
07:25:29PM THEY HAVE A NAME THAT IS THE SAME, BUT THESE ARE A LOT OF
07:25:32PM DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH A CHANGE OF TITLE
07:25:35PM AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
07:25:36PM SO THEY CAN'T CLAIM THAT.
07:25:38PM PETITION WAS ORIGINALLY FILED AS LIBERTY BAYSHORE
07:25:45PM LIMITED LCC.
07:25:46PM THEN WAS AMENDED TO 3179 BAYSHORE AND MAY HAVE BEEN AMENDED
07:25:53PM AFTER THAT.
07:25:53PM I JUST DON'T KNOW.
07:25:54PM THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, I DON'T THINK THOSE
07:25:58PM EXIST.
07:25:58PM AND I KNOW THAT STAFF SAID THAT, BUT THEY ARE NOT LAWYERS.
07:26:01PM MY TRAINING AS A LAWYER -- I USED TO OWN A TITLE COMPANY.
07:26:05PM UP WOULD SAYS THERE NO SUCH THING AS TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT
07:26:09PM RIGHTS APPLICABLE TO HAVE THIS POSITION AND I WILL UPHOLD MY
07:26:17PM REPUTATION ON THAT.
07:26:18PM IN CONCLUSION, I WILL SAY THIS PETITION SHOULD BE EITHER
07:26:21PM CALLED OUT OF ORDER FOR PROCEDURALS MATTERS OR TURNED DOWN
07:26:24PM ON THE SUBSTANTIVE MATTERS.
07:26:26PM I WANT TO CLOSE BY QUOTING A VERY FAMOUS LAWYER, MORGAN AND
07:26:30PM MORGAN, WHO SAYS, FOR THE PEOPLE.
07:26:32PM I'M MIKE SHEA, FOR THE PEOPLE.
07:26:35PM [APPLAUSE]
07:26:38PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
07:26:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:26:44PM RICH MILLER IS OUR NEXT SPEAKER.
07:26:47PM HE ALSO HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
07:26:50PM FULL PLEASE GIVE IT TO THE TONE AND WE WILL READ OFF THE
07:26:54PM NAMES.
07:26:55PM AUTOMAKERS.
07:26:56PM RIGHT UP THERE IN THE WHITE BASKET.
07:27:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MILLER HAS SIX NAMES.
07:27:04PM NICOLE MILLER.
07:27:05PM >> HERE.
07:27:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AMANDA PECK, JOSEPH PECK.
07:27:11PM >> HERE.
07:27:12PM >> HERE.
07:27:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: KELLAN.
07:27:14PM >> HERE.
07:27:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANDY VOREK.
07:27:18PM THANK YOU.
07:27:18PM AND JOSE CUEVO McNAMARA.
07:27:23PM >> HERE.
07:27:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
07:27:25PM SIX NAMES FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
07:27:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU MUCH, SIR.
07:27:32PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU MAY BEGIN.
07:27:34PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, RICH MILLER, 45 BAYSHORE
07:27:39PM BOULEVARD.
07:27:39PM I AM NOT A LAWYER.
07:27:40PM I AM NOT A DOCTOR OR AN ACCOUNTANT, BUT I HOLD A MASTER'S
07:27:45PM DEGREE IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, A LICENSED REALTOR AND
07:27:48PM RESIDENT IN THE GREAT CITY OF TAMPA.
07:27:51PM IT DOESN'T TAKE HIGHER EDUCATION REVIEW TO DO BASIC THIRD
07:27:55PM GRADE MATH.
07:27:56PM SPENDING COUNTLESS HOURS UNDERSTANDING THE INTRICACIES OF
07:28:01PM THIS PROPOSAL THROUGH COUNTLESS MEETING AND CITY STAFF,
07:28:03PM INJUSTICE THAT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT THIS DEVELOPER
07:28:06PM HORSE TRIED TO PUSH THROUGH WITH THIS PROPOSAL AND NO PLACE
07:28:08PM ON THE 319 BAYSHORE LOT.
07:28:11PM THERE ARE TWO MAJOR COMPONENTS THIS DEVELOPER FAILS TO SHOW
07:28:14PM THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR APPROVED UNITS AND SQUARE FOOTAGE
07:28:19PM NECESSARY TO BUILD THIS STRUCTURE.
07:28:20PM PUT TOGETHER THIS FACTUAL PRESENTATION AND SIMPLE AND EASY
07:28:24PM CLARITY TO A VERY MESSY APPROVAL PROCESS.
07:28:26PM CONSIDER MYSELF A PASSIONATE PERSON AND ANALYTICAL PERSON.
07:28:30PM I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO YOU, COUNCIL, TO BEST
07:28:34PM UNDER STAND HOW THIS DEVELOPER TRIED TO WIGGLE THEIR WAY TO
07:28:36PM AN APPROVAL THEY HAVE THINK THEY DON'T NEED AND IN FACT IS
07:28:40PM COMPLETELY WRONG.
07:28:40PM IN THE NATURE OF THE LARGE NUMBERS AND EASE OF
07:28:42PM UNDERSTANDING.
07:28:43PM UP TOOK THE LIBERTY TO ROUND THE NUMBERS TO THE THOUSAND
07:28:46PM BASIS POINTS.
07:28:47PM 2011, APPROVED IT PD Z 10-34.
07:28:52PM ORDINANCE 2011-27 CREATED INTO LAW WHICH CONSISTED THREE
07:28:57PM PHASE.
07:28:58PM PHASE ONE WAS COMPLETED AND PHASE TWO WAS ABOUT TO BEGIN.
07:29:01PM ACCORDING TO THIS DATA TABLE, 753,000 SQUARE FEET APPROVED
07:29:05PM FOR ALL THREE PHASES.
07:29:06PM THIS IS THE APPROVAL.
07:29:07PM NOTHING MORE THAN 153,000 SQUARE FEET.
07:29:10PM YOU CAN NOT GO OVER 153,000 SQUARE FEET.
07:29:14PM KEY NUMBERED IN STONE WITH THIS PD.
07:29:17PM REFERENCING BACK TO THE DATA TABLE, PHASE ONE, 1789,000
07:29:22PM SQUARE FEET.
07:29:22PM PHASE TWO OF 482,000 SQUARE FEET.
07:29:24PM TOTAL $661,000 SQUARE FEET AND PHASE TWO THE BALANCE OF
07:29:31PM 92,000 SQUARE FEET.
07:29:31PM NO ONE CAN DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER
07:29:35PM AND CITY STAFF WITH THE OVERALL APPROVED SQUARE FOOTAGE.
07:29:40PM WHERE THINGS GET A LITTLE FUNKY.
07:29:42PM 2015, SUB 15-28, 448,000 SQUARE FEET CONSTRUCTED WITH
07:29:49PM 168,000 SQUARE FEET REMAINING.
07:29:50PM 2017, SUB 17-09 BETTER TO DEFINE WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
07:29:56PM CONSTRUCTION OF 165,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING WITH MAXIMUM
07:30:01PM HEIGHT OF 98 FEET WAS APPROVED.
07:30:03PM NOT 309,000 SQUARE FIGHT.
07:30:05PM NOT 237 UNITS OR 27 STORIES.
07:30:09PM YET WE HAVE CARRY ON.
07:30:10PM 2022, APPROVAL FOR SUB 22-14 STATED NO REQUESTED INCREASE OF
07:30:15PM CUMULATIVE PROJECT ENTITLEMENT FROM Z 10-34 AND ADDITIONAL
07:30:21PM 149,000 SQUARE FEET FOR PHASE THREE TO BE APPROVED.
07:30:23PM I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE ALL THESE SUB CHANGES WERE DONE
07:30:26PM ADMINISTRATIVE AND NOT APPROVED BY COUNCIL LIKE Z 10-24.
07:30:30PM WHERE 149,000 FEET COME FROM?
07:30:35PM WHERE DID IT APPEAR OUT OF THIN AIR?
07:30:37PM HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE HAD BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
07:30:40PM >> PROVIDED GUIDANCE OF HOW THE MATH WORKED.
07:30:43PM WHEN ASKED THE CITY STAFF, I RECEIVED THE SAME CALCULATION.
07:30:47PM 661,000 SQUARE FEET PHASES ONE AND TWO TO 140,000 SQUARE
07:30:56PM FEET.
07:30:56PM DEVELOPER SAID THEY DIDN'T USE THE ENTITLEMENT ONLY PHASE
07:31:00PM ONE AND TWO.
07:31:00PM FAIR.
07:31:01PM AS A CITIZEN, I LOOKED WHAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER STATED
07:31:05PM WAS BUILT, THE SAME THAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOT AND
07:31:09PM TO BILL US FOR OUR TAXES.
07:31:12PM PHASE ONE WILL HAD BEEN 15 3,000 FEET.
07:31:15PM PHASE TWO 445,000 FOR A TOTAL OF 588,000.
07:31:22PM 168,000 SQUARE FEET WOULD REMAIN.
07:31:25PM DATA TABLE ON THEIR OWN SITE SUBMITTED KNEW RES 24-29.
07:31:31PM AND 442,000 SQUARE FEET FOR PHASE TWO, WHICH WOULD MEAN A
07:31:34PM BALANCE OF 1 2,000 SQUARE FEET WOULD REMAIN.
07:31:37PM SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.
07:31:38PM FOR PHASE ONE AND TWO, PROPOSED SITE PLAN FROM -- THE
07:31:44PM PROPOSED SITE PLAN IN FROM Z 10-34 DATA TABLE STATES 661,000
07:31:51PM SQUARE FEET.
07:31:52PM PROPERTY APPRAISER USED THE TAXABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE STATES
07:31:57PM 588,000 SQUARE FEET AND MASTER SITE PLAN, 620,000 SQUARE
07:32:02PM FEET AND YET THE CONCLUSION IS STATING ONLY 444,000 SQUARE
07:32:07PM FEET HAVE BEEN BUILT.
07:32:09PM HOW CAN THIS BE?
07:32:10PM WHEN I ASKED CITY STAFF, THE RESPONSE THAT THE PROPERTY
07:32:13PM APPRAISER ISN'T ALWAYS ACCURATE.
07:32:14PM OKAY.
07:32:15PM WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
07:32:17PM THE RESPONSE IS THAT IT CAN BE OFF A COUPLE HUNDRED SQUARE
07:32:20PM FEET OR A COUPLE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOR LARGER PROJECTS.
07:32:24PM I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT HOW ARE WE OFF BY THE 144,000
07:32:29PM SQUARE FEET?
07:32:30PM DESPITE TRYING TO FIND THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, THERE
07:32:32PM WAS NO AS TO WHY IT WOULD BE OFF THAT.
07:32:35PM IF YOU WERE DOING THE MATH WITH ME, LET'S RECAP Z 10-34 PD
07:32:41PM PHASE ONE AND TWO, 661,000 SQUARE FEET.
07:32:44PM PROPERTY, 588,000 SQUARE FEET HAS BEEN BUILT.
07:32:48PM DEVELOPER STABLE SAYS 629,000 SQUARE FEET HAS BEEN BUILT AND
07:32:55PM DUE TO ONE LETTER WRITTEN BACK IN 2015 FROM 15-28, THE CITY
07:32:59PM BELIEVES THAT 444,000 SQUARE FEET HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
07:33:04PM THIS MEMBERS I COME TO ONE OF TWO CONCLUSIONS.
07:33:07PM ONE, THE OWNERS OF PHASE ONE AND TWO HAVE BEEN GREATLY
07:33:11PM OVERTAXED OVER THE LAST YEAR BY A TOTAL OF 144,000 SQUARE
07:33:14PM FEET AND SHOULD BE EXPECTING A NICE RETURN COMING SOON.
07:33:17PM ON OR THERE WAS A GRAVE ERROR MADE BY THE CITY WHEN THE CITY
07:33:21PM CITED ONLY 444,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE ZONING DEPARTMENT IS
07:33:26PM REFUSING TO ADMIT.
07:33:27PM UNFORTUNATELY, CITY STAFF IS CONTINUING TO REFERENCE THIS
07:33:30PM MISTAKE WHEN CALCULATING THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE
07:33:33PM REFERENCING SUB 15-28.
07:33:35PM THE LETTER SITES THIS EQUATION OF 440,000 SQUARE FEET TO BE
07:33:40PM BASED ON 3.49 ACRES.
07:33:42PM HOWEVER, ALL THREE PHASES HAVE A TOTAL OF 5.7 ACRES, 3.9
07:33:49PM ACRES FROM ONE BAYSHORE AND 178 ACRE.
07:33:54PM AND WITH 19 BAYSHORE PART OF THE SET IN PLACE CALCULATION
07:34:00PM OF .79 ACRES.
07:34:02PM THE CALCULATION WAS INCORRECT AS THE TOTAL OF ROUGHLY FIVE
07:34:07PM ACRES HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED, NOT 3.9.
07:34:11PM THE SOUTHERN PARCEL BUILDING IN PHASE TWO WAS COMPLETELY
07:34:16PM MISSED IN THIS EQUATION.
07:34:17PM WHICH FURTHER CONTRIBUTES TO THE STAFF ELSE INCONSISTENT
07:34:22PM FINDINGS.
07:34:22PM REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS BEEN BUILT
07:34:25PM WITH THE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF CITED SOURCES COMING UP WITH
07:34:28PM DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
07:34:28PM DUE TO THE TIMELINE OF THIS PROJECT, THE MULTIPLE SUBS AND
07:34:32PM APPROVALS AND DIFFERENT HANDS THESE DEEDS HAVE CHANGED SORT
07:34:34PM OF US ALL GOING OUT THERE WITH A TAPE MEASURE AND
07:34:39PM REMEASURING THIS THICK, WE HAVE TO USE LOGICAL AND
07:34:42PM MATHEMATICAL REASONING.
07:34:43PM NO WAY TO HAVE 309,000 SQUARE FEET LEFT FROM PHASES ONE AND
07:34:48PM TWO.
07:34:48PM DEVELOPER HAS LESS THAN 166,000 SQUARE FEET ACCORDING TO
07:34:52PM PROPERTY APPRAISER.
07:34:53PM THE MATH DOESN'T MATH, AND THEY KNOW IT.
07:34:55PM THANK YOU.
07:34:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
07:34:59PM NO CLAPPING.
07:35:00PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
07:35:02PM PLEASE KEEP THE CLAPPING DOWN.
07:35:03PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:35:04PM GEORGE METLER IS OUR NEXT SPEAK WE ARE A SPEAKER WAIVER
07:35:08PM FORM.
07:35:08PM AND IF WOULD YOU BRING IT UP TO THE ATTORNEY, HE WILL READ
07:35:12PM THE NAMES.
07:35:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHO IS AFTER THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN?
07:35:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARY SEVILLE IS THE NEXT SNEAKER AFTER
07:35:20PM THIS GENTLEMAN.
07:35:21PM THIS GENTLEMAN UP HERE.
07:35:23PM COME ON UP HERE, SIR.
07:35:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
07:35:26PM DR. METLER, IF YOU CAN PUT YOUR NUMBER BACK IN THAT LITTLE
07:35:33PM BOX ON THE TOP OVER THERE.
07:35:34PM THANK YOU.
07:35:36PM DAVID BOLES.
07:35:39PM >> HERE?
07:35:41PM >> JOANNE BOLES.
07:35:43PM ELIZABETH WINEGRAD.
07:35:44PM THANK YOU.
07:35:45PM AND DANIEL WINEGRAD.
07:35:47PM FOUR SPEAKERS FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN MINUTES.
07:35:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD EVENING, SIR.
07:35:54PM STATE YOUR NAME.
07:35:55PM >> GEORGE MEDDLER, 345 BAYSHORE.
07:35:58PM THANK YOU.
07:35:59PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
07:36:00PM THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR OUR CONCERNS.
07:36:03PM LIKE MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS, I CHERISH TAMPA AND WISH TO SEE
07:36:07PM IT DEVELOP RESPONSIBLY WHILE PRESERVING ITS HISTORIC HYDE
07:36:14PM PARK AND BAYSHORE HISTORY.
07:36:15PM HOWEVER, I HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT
07:36:18PM AT 319 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND THE PROPOSAL FROM THE
07:36:22PM OUT-OF-STATE DEVELOPER.
07:36:29PM INCONSISTENCIES THAT AFFECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
07:36:32PM AS RICH MILLER WITH THE ACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPER
07:36:38PM MISREPRESENTED THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FEET BY 162,000 AND IN
07:36:43PM BUILDING CALCULATIONS.
07:36:44PM RESEARCHING THE PUBLIC RECORDS, I FOUND THE DEVELOPER ADDED
07:36:51PM 160 ENTITLEMENT TOTS 309 THAT WE HAVE.
07:36:55PM THESE CALCULATIONS AGREED WITH RICH, THE BUILDING INCREASED
07:36:59PM 92%.
07:37:00PM THESE ENTITLEMENTS ARE UNUSED FROM PHASE ONE OR TWO.
07:37:04PM ARE THEY THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS?
07:37:07PM AND THESE RIGHTFUL OWNERS REQUEST NOT TO RELINQUISH THEM.
07:37:13PM IF I CAN SPIT IT OUT.
07:37:14PM SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE FOR INCONSISTENCIES.
07:37:19PM DISREGARD FROM ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS.
07:37:22PM SETTLEMENT 24-27, HURRICANE HELENE FLOODED BAYSHORE
07:37:27PM BOULEVARD CAUSING HISTORIC FLOODING AND DAMAGE, WHICH WE ARE
07:37:30PM STILL DEALING WITH TODAY.
07:37:31PM TWO WEEKS LATER, HURRICANE MILTON HIT TAMPA BAY.
07:37:35PM THE FOLLOWING DAY ON OCTOBER 12, SOMEONE DISPATCHED WORK
07:37:40PM WORKER ANTS 78 A.M. ON SATURDAY AND UNLAWFULLY BEGAN CUTTING
07:37:44PM DOWN THE PROTECTED GRAND TREE ON THE 319 PROPERTY.
07:37:48PM THEY REMOVED TWO LARGE BRANCHES BEFORE LAW ENFORCEMENT
07:37:53PM INTERVENED AND ORDERED THEM TO STOP.
07:37:56PM THE FACT THAT THEY ATTEMPTED TO EXECUTE THIS OPERATION IN
07:38:00PM SECRET WOULDN'T PERMITS OR COMMUNITY NOTICE IS DEEPLY
07:38:03PM TROUBLING AND UNDERSCORES THEIR PRIORITIES.
07:38:06PM WHOEVER DISPATCHED THESE WORKER AND CUT DOWN THIS TREE
07:38:11PM ABUSED ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND HAVE OBVIOUS DISREGARD FOR OUR
07:38:16PM COMMUNITY.
07:38:16PM THIS IS ANOTHER INCONSISTENCY THAT OCCURRED ON THIS SMALL
07:38:21PM LOT.
07:38:21PM THIS DEVELOPER'S TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY SEEMS TO ME
07:38:25PM FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED DOES NOT REFLECT THE REALITY OF WHAT
07:38:29PM OUR COMMUNITY EXPERIENCES EVERY DAY.
07:38:30PM I DON'T NEED A TRAFFIC STUDY, BECAUSE I CAN LOOK OUTSIDE AND
07:38:34PM OBSERVE THE CONGESTION THAT TAMPA RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY
07:38:38PM STRUGGLING WITH.
07:38:39PM I-275 IS GRIDLOCKED AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY.
07:38:43PM DAVIS ISLAND ONE-WAY BRIDGE LOCATED ADJACENT TO 319
07:38:48PM PROPERTIES EXPERIENCE BACK-UPS FOUR TO FIVE TIMES A DAY, A
07:38:51PM SITUATION THAT WILL ONLY WORSEN ONCE THE TAMPA GENERAL
07:38:55PM HOSPITAL EXPANSION IS COMPLETED.
07:38:56PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD TRAFFIC GRINDS TO A STANDSTILL EVERY
07:39:02PM EVENING FROM 4:30 TO 7:30 AND MORE DELAYS WITH HOCKEY GAMES
07:39:06PM AND CONCERTS.
07:39:07PM A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE.
07:39:09PM MY DAUGHTER WHO RESIDES ONE AND A HALF MILES FROM WATER
07:39:12PM STREET RECENTLY TOOK AN UBER ON SATURDAY EVENING.
07:39:15PM WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SHORT RIDE TURNED TO AN AGONIZING
07:39:19PM ONE HOUR AND 20 MINUTE JOURNEY DUE TO GRIDLOCK.
07:39:24PM AND BOB WILL PRESENT LATER THE TRAFFIC PRESENTATION -- THAT
07:39:28PM THE TRAFFIC FAILED IN 2005 AND 2016 FOR EVEN SMALLER
07:39:32PM PROJECTS THAN THIS BUILDING.
07:39:33PM TAMPA IS EXPERIENCED RAPID UNCHECKED GROWTH WITHOUT
07:39:38PM CORRESPONDING INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
07:39:40PM WE CAN NOT CONTINUE TO APPROVE HIGH-RISES, APARTMENT
07:39:44PM COMPLEXES AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS WHILE NEGLECTING
07:39:47PM TRAFFIC CONGESTION, ROAD EXPANSION EMERGENCY RESPONSE
07:39:51PM ACCESSIBILITY AND FLOOD MITIGATION.
07:39:53PM BAYSHORE IS AN UNIQUE AND ICONIC BOULEVARD WHERE TAMPA
07:39:58PM FAMILIES CAN ENJOY RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES WITH FIREWORKS,
07:40:01PM PARADES, WINNING, BIKING AND WATERFRONT.
07:40:04PM BAYSHORE SHOULD REMAIN THE CROWN OVER ON A TAMPA BAY AND NOT
07:40:08PM A GRIDLOCKED PARKING LOT.
07:40:10PM UNCONTROLLED OVERDEVELOPMENT RISK TURNING BAYSHORE INTO
07:40:14PM ANOTHER MIAMI, A CITY PLAGUED BY TRAFFIC CONGESTION,
07:40:18PM FREQUENT FLOODING AND OVERBUILT SKYLINE.
07:40:21PM GIVEN THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF INCONSISTENCIES AND FAILURE
07:40:25PM TO CONSIDER COMMUNITY IMPACT, THEY SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED
07:40:32PM WITH PARTICIPATING THIS PROJECT WILL.
07:40:33PM WE ASK THE COUNCIL REJECT IT IN ITS CURRENT FORM AND THE
07:40:38PM LONG-TERM WELL BEING OF TAMPA RESIDENTS OVER THE FINANCIAL
07:40:42PM INTEREST OF AN OUT-OF-TOWN DEVELOPER.
07:40:44PM WE THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA ENTRUST YOU WITH THE
07:40:47PM RESPONSIBILITY TO SAFEGUARD OUR CITY'S FUTURE.
07:40:50PM VOTE NO AND STAND WITH US PROTECTING THE HISTORIC BAYSHORE
07:40:55PM BOULEVARD'S BROUGHT, LIVABILITY AND LEGACY.
07:40:58PM WE ELECT THE CITY COUNCIL TO ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ITS
07:41:02PM CONSTITUENTS.
07:41:03PM OUR TRUST LIES IN YOUR COMMITMENT TO KEEPING TAMPA SAFE,
07:41:07PM BEAUTIFUL AND PROSPEROUS FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
07:41:10PM THE CHOICE' YOU MAKE TODAY WILL DEFINE TAMPA'S FUTURE.
07:41:15PM PLEASE JOINS US IN PRESERVES INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER THAT
07:41:18PM MAKES OUR CITY TRULY SPECIAL.
07:41:20PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
07:41:22PM [APPLAUSE]
07:41:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING.
07:41:32PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:41:33PM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARY SEVILLE.
07:41:36PM FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL POBAT AND CHRIS HOWSER.
07:41:40PM EACH PERSON HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
07:41:42PM MARY SEVILLE HAS A FEW NAMES.
07:41:44PM MR. SHELBY, PLEASE READ THOSE NAMES.
07:41:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
07:41:47PM J.D. STEWART.
07:41:55PM >> HERE.
07:41:55PM >> SARAH MUSIL.
07:41:57PM >> HERE.
07:41:58PM >> TWO ADDITIONAL NAMES FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES.
07:42:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
07:42:01PM STATEMENT YOUR NAME.
07:42:02PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
07:42:04PM MY NAME IS MARY SEVILLE.
07:42:06PM PROPERTY OWNER AN RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AT 345
07:42:11PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD THAT IS NEXT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT
07:42:14PM 319 BAYSHORE.
07:42:15PM I LIVED IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA FOR 27 YEARS.
07:42:18PM I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN BUNK BUSINESS MANAGEMENT AND I
07:42:22PM WORK FULL TIME 40 YEARS, APPROXIMATELY HALF OF WHICH WAS A
07:42:27PM STAFF PERSON IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
07:42:28PM FOR 13 YEARS, I WAS EMPLOYED BY YOUR NEIGHBOR, SARASOTA
07:42:32PM COUNTY GOVERNMENT IN A VARIETY OF ROLES, BUT ALL OF THEM
07:42:35PM REQUIRED ME TO PREPARE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY
07:42:40PM COMMISSIONERS, INCLUDING, FIRST AND SECOND READINGS OF
07:42:43PM ORDINANCES.
07:42:44PM I AM SERIOUSLY TROUBLED BY THE LACK OF COMPLETENESS,
07:42:49PM ACCURACY AND DETAIL IN THE REZONED 23-99 DOCUMENTS, THE SITE
07:42:56PM PLAN IN PARTICULAR OPINION THIS ESPECIALLY CONCERNS ME
07:42:59PM BECAUSE THIS AGENDA ITEMS INCLUDES A PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR
07:43:02PM A FIRST READING.
07:43:03PM AND THESE INCOMPLETE DOCUMENTS WOULD BECOME PART OF THE
07:43:07PM ORDINANCE AS EXHIBIT B.
07:43:09PM IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE, IT
07:43:14PM SHOULD PROBABLY BE IN PRESENTEE MUCH IT'S FINAL FORM.
07:43:17PM YOU MIGHT MAKE SOME MINOR CHANGES, SOME SPELLING CORRECTION,
07:43:21PM SOME PUNCTUATION.
07:43:24PM MAYBE REPLACE A WORE OF WORD OR TWO TO CLARIFY YOUR MEANING.
07:43:28PM BUT YOU DO NOT ADD IN ALL THE CRITICAL DATA NEEDED TO
07:43:31PM PROVIDE THE SUBSTANCE OF THE DOCUMENT.
07:43:33PM THE STAFF REPORTS FROM BOTH THE CITY STAFF AND PLANNING
07:43:37PM COMMISSION STAFF BY MY COUNT RECOMMENDS 41 CHANGES,
07:43:43PM ADDITIONS AND CORRECTIONS TO THE DOCUMENTS, SUGGESTING THAT
07:43:47PM THOSE 41 CHANGES CAN BE MADE AFTER THE FIRST READING, KIND
07:43:52PM OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE FIRST READING, IN MY OPINION.
07:43:56PM THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA DESERVE COMPLETE AND ACCURATE
07:44:01PM DOCUMENTS FOR THE FIRST READING.
07:44:02PM SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO READ THEM.
07:44:04PM THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE FIRST READING EXERCISE.
07:44:07PM IN ADDITION TO MY CONCERN ABOUT THE INCOMPLETENESS OF THE
07:44:12PM DOCUMENTS, I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT ADDING 237 MORE
07:44:17PM FAMILIES TO THE MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTIAL ZONE FOR
07:44:21PM HURRICANES.
07:44:22PM EVACUATION ZONE A.
07:44:24PM DURING MY EMPLOYMENT WITH SARASOTA COUNTY, ONE OF MY ROLES
07:44:31PM WAS FINANCE MANAGER FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES WHICH INCLUDES
07:44:35PM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
07:44:35PM AS YOU KNOW, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 319 BAYSHORE IS IN THE
07:44:40PM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
07:44:42PM ACCORDING TO THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBJECTIVE 1.1, ON
07:44:48PM PAGE 245 OF THE ADOPTED PLAN, ARE, THE OBJECTIVE FUTURE
07:44:54PM POPULATION CONCENTRATIONS AWAY FROM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
07:44:57PM AREA.
07:44:58PM THE NUMBER ONE GOAL IS TO PROTECT HUMAN LIFE AND LIMIT
07:45:03PM PUBLIC EXPENDITURES IN AREAS SUSCEPTIBLE TO DESTRUCTION BY
07:45:08PM NATURAL DISASTERS.
07:45:08PM ALSO IN YOUR PLAN AND THE OVERVIEW OF THE COASTAL PLANNING
07:45:13PM AREA SECTION, IT STATES THAT OBJECTIVES ARE TO ENSURE THAT
07:45:17PM PUBLIC EXPENDITURES DO NOT ENCOURAGE GROWTH IN COASTAL HIGH
07:45:22PM HAZARD AREAS.
07:45:23PM AND THIS PUBLIC DECISIONS WILL INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF
07:45:27PM COASTAL HAZARDS IN EACH LAND USE AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE
07:45:32PM DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.
07:45:34PM THESE 237 NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
07:45:40PM AREA WILL TRIGGER A NECESSARY EVALUATION OF EVACUATION
07:45:44PM ROUTES, AS WELL AS AN ANALYSIS OF SHELTER SPACE CAPACITY.
07:45:47PM THIS MAY RESULT IN AN INCREASE IN BUDGETS TO MAINTAIN LEVELS
07:45:52PM OF SERVICE.
07:45:52PM IN FLORIDA, NOT A MATTER OF IF A STORM WILL HIT.
07:45:59PM A MATTER OF WHEN AND WHERE.
07:46:03PM SOMETHING THAT LOCAL LEADERS AND EMERGENCY MANNERS STRUGGLE
07:46:07PM WITH TO GET RESIDENTS OF AN EVACUATION ZONE TO LEAVE.
07:46:11PM I ALWAYS HAVE MY BAG PACKED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
07:46:14PM HURRICANE SEASON, AND I ALWAYS EVACUATE, AND I GO WHEN I AM
07:46:16PM ORDERED TO DO SO.
07:46:17PM I TAKE MY CIVIC OBLIGATIONS SERIOUSLY AND FOLLOW EVACUATION
07:46:21PM ORDERS, NOT ALL RESIDENTS IN EVACUATION ZONES DO.
07:46:25PM FOUND IT AN INTERESTING STATISTIC IN THE 2024 RESULTS OF THE
07:46:31PM AMERICAN AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIATION COME CONSUMER SURVEY, 27% OF
07:46:37PM FLORIDIANS SURVEYED STATED THEY WOULD NOT EVACUATE THEIR
07:46:41PM HOMES IN THE EVENT OF A HURRICANE EVEN WHEN TOLD TO
07:46:44PM EVACUATE.
07:46:45PM THAT 27% OF RESIDENTS TO CHOOSES TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES ARE
07:46:49PM PUTTING NOT KNOT ONLY THEM 70s AND THEIR FAMILIES AT RISK
07:46:53PM BUT ALSO THE FIRST RESPONDERS DISPATCHED TO HELP WHEN THOSE
07:46:56PM RESIDENTS FIND THEMSELVES IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION THAT THEY
07:46:59PM CAN'T HANDLE.
07:47:00PM SO YOU THINK THE AAA SURVEY RULES ARE CREDIBLE, THEN IN
07:47:06PM ADDITION -- THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:47:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MICHAEL POBAT FOLLOWED BY CHRIS HOWSER
07:47:13PM AND PAT CIMINO.
07:47:15PM MR. POBAT HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
07:47:18PM PLEASE GIVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY -- HE ALSO HAS MODELS.
07:47:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HANNAH MURRAY.
07:47:33PM PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE.
07:47:35PM I SEE, THANK YOU.
07:47:37PM ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR.
07:47:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S JUST WAIT A SECOND AS THEY SET UP
07:47:47PM THE TABLE HERE.
07:47:48PM OKAY, SIR.
07:48:18PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:48:19PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
07:48:21PM ANY NAME IS MICHAEL POBAT AND PRESIDENT OF THE HYDE PARK
07:48:29PM SPANISH TOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
07:48:31PM BOARD ASKED TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL MECHANICS TO VOTE NO
07:48:35PM FOR RES 23-99 LOCATED AT 19 BAYSHORE AVENUE.
07:48:40PM AFTER GREETING THE 2040 AND 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:48:44PM AND ATTENDING NUMEROUS CITY COUNCIL EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES,
07:48:49PM I CAME TO APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR SMART GROWTH AND THE
07:48:52PM DESIRE TO MAINTAIN A TAMPA CULTURE SUCH AS THE BRICK ROADS,
07:48:56PM OUR FABULOUS RIVERWALK AND BEAUTIFUL BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
07:48:59PM THESE ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED IN LAND USE POLICY 9.1.2, WHICH
07:49:04PM STATES ENCOURAGED SENSITIVE DESIGN AND SITE PLANNING AND
07:49:07PM URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MITIGATES THE SCALE OF LARGER
07:49:10PM BUILDINGS THROUGH CAREFUL USE OF BUILDING MASSINGS,
07:49:15PM SETBACKS, FACADE ARTICULATION, FEBRUARY OPERATION, ROOF
07:49:20PM PLAINS AND PEDESTRIAN ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS.
07:49:24PM 20.1, CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD FROM BROREIN
07:49:30PM TO GANDY BOULEVARD AS A REGIONAL ATTRACTOR AND MAJOR ASSETS
07:49:35PM TO CONTINUE TO PRESERVE AND ENABLES THE PHYSICAL
07:49:39PM ENVIRONMENTS ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IN A MANNER THAT WILL
07:49:42PM CONTINUE TO PROVIDE CITY RESIDENTS, REGIONAL NEIGHBORS AND
07:49:46PM NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL VISITORS WITH THE UNIQUE
07:49:50PM ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERIENCE IN THE CORE URBAN AREA.
07:49:53PM WHEN RESIDENTS FROM 345 BAYSHORE MET WITH THE CRESCENT
07:49:57PM COMMUNITY DEVELOPER ON 6th APRIL, 2024 TO DISCUSS THE
07:50:01PM PROPOSED BUILDING, WE WERE TOLD BY THE DEVELOP THEIR THEY
07:50:04PM WOULD BE LEVERAGING -- DEVELOPER THAT THEY WILL BE
07:50:09PM LEVERAGING A CURRENT BUILDING FROM THEIR CURRENT DALLAS
07:50:13PM DEVELOPMENT.
07:50:13PM NOVEL AT TURTLE CREEK.
07:50:17PM AS A RELATIVE NEWCOMER TO TAMPA, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT
07:50:21PM THE DEVELOPERS WOULD DESIGN BUILDINGS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE
07:50:25PM CULTURE OF TAMPA AND THE BROUGHT OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD
07:50:28PM INSTEAD OF TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT.
07:50:30PM A 27-STORY BUILDING ON BAYSHORE IS AGE INAPPROPRIATE
07:50:36PM CONSIDERING THAT THE NORTHERN SECTION OF BAYSHORE IS A
07:50:38PM GATEWAY TO DOWNTOWN.
07:50:39PM BE SUBSTANTIAL TRAFFIC IMPACTS TO DAVIS ISLANDS, A MAJOR
07:50:44PM CONCERN DURING HURRICANE EVACUATIONS FROM THE EVACUATION
07:50:49PM ZONE A AND TERRIBLE SHADOWING ON THE VERN STREET COMMUNITY.
07:50:53PM PLEASE NOTE, BOTH OF THESE SLIDES CAME FROM CRESCENT
07:51:03PM COMMUNITIES.
07:51:03PM MANY OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRIED TO MEET WITH THE
07:51:06PM DEVELOPER TO COME WITH A COMPROMISE SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO
07:51:08PM BE HERE.
07:51:09PM WE MET FACE TO FACE OR BY ZOOM ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.
07:51:12PM THE DEVELOPER WAS INNINGS TO COME TO A REASONABLE SOLUTION
07:51:15PM THAT WILL SATISFY THEIR NEEDS AND THE NEEDS OF THE
07:51:19PM COMMUNITIES.
07:51:19PM THESE TWO MODELS ARE BUILT TO SCALE.
07:51:21PM ONE INCH EQUALS TEN FEET.
07:51:24PM THIS IS 300 FEET.
07:51:26PM IT IS 30 FEET SHORT OF THREE INCHES BECAUSE I RAN OUT OF
07:51:29PM FOAM BOARD.
07:51:30PM THE SMALLER BOARD -- THE SMALLER BUILDING IS THE DESIGN THAT
07:51:34PM WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2011.
07:51:38PM AND IT IS THE ONE THE LOCAL RESIDENTS ALONG BAYSHORE
07:51:41PM UNDERSTOOD WALLS BEING BUILT WHEN THEY PURCHASED THEIR HOMES
07:51:45PM AND COME DOES.
07:51:45PM THE LARGER BUILDING IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS CALLING A MINOR
07:51:51PM CHANGE TO THE DESIGN.
07:51:52PM I HOPE MY FINANCIAL PORTFOLIO HAS THAT MINOR CHANGE.
07:51:58PM BOTTOM LINE, I AM ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL NOT TO MIAMI
07:52:02PM TAMPA.
07:52:03PM AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, PLEASE DO NOT DALLAS BAYSHORE
07:52:07PM BOULEVARD.
07:52:07PM THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF YOUR TIME.
07:52:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, CHRIS HOWSER, PAT CIMINO,
07:52:13PM DEBBIE ZAMERMAN AND JENNIFER ZERITSKY.
07:52:20PM AFTER THAT A TEN-MINUTE RECESS.
07:52:23PM IF YOU GO DOWNSTAIRS AND WATCH THE MEETING BECAUSE WE NEED
07:52:26PM TO BRING MORE PEOPLE FOR THE NEXT SECTION OF PUBLIC COMMENT
07:52:30PM BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH.
07:52:31PM PLEASE READ THE NAME, SIR.
07:52:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU PUT YOUR NUMBER THIS WILL THERE.
07:52:36PM >> I DID RIGHT THERE.
07:52:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JAIL SMITH AND JOHN MURRAY.
07:52:40PM >> HERE.
07:52:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE BOTH HERE.
07:52:42PM TOTAL OF FIVE MINUTES.
07:52:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
07:52:45PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:52:46PM >> ESTEEMED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CHRIS HOWSER.
07:52:51PM LIVED AT 345 BAYSHORE FOR EIGHT YEARS.
07:52:54PM AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT
07:52:57PM DEVELOPMENT FOR A CONSTRUCTION FIRM WITH OVER 55,000
07:53:00PM EMPLOYEES, I HOLD A SENIOR HR PROFESSIONAL CERTIFICATION.
07:53:05PM AND MY EXPERIENCE IS PLACING THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT
07:53:09PM POSITIONS.
07:53:10PM WHEN A MISMATCH HAPPENS, IT CREATES COSTLY AND AVOIDABLE
07:53:16PM PROBLEMS.
07:53:16PM SOMETHING I LEARNED FIRST HAND.
07:53:20PM TONIGHT, YOU FACE A SIMILAR CHALLENGE ENSURING THE RIGHT
07:53:24PM PROJECT FITS THE RIGHT LOCATION.
07:53:26PM JUST AS I ASSESS THE RIGHT FIT FOR MY JOB, YOU MUST
07:53:33PM DETERMINE WHETHER THE PROJECT SITE FITS -- THE PROJECT FITS
07:53:38PM THE SITE.
07:53:39PM FOR MY 16th MACHINE FLOOR CONDO, I LOOK DOWN ON 319
07:53:45PM BAYSHORE.
07:53:46PM IT IS SO SMALL THAT IT -- IT RESEMBLES A POSTAGE STAMP
07:53:52PM COMPARED TO THE OVER THREE ACRES OUR 20-STORY HIGH-RISE
07:53:57PM OCCUPIES.
07:53:57PM YET THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO FORCE A TOWERING 27-STORY
07:54:02PM BUILDING INTO THIS TINY THREE-QUARTER-ACRE SPACE.
07:54:07PM IT IS AN ILL-FITTING, OVERSIZED PROPOSAL THAT DEFIES LOGIC.
07:54:12PM DURING HURRICANE HELENE, HE WATCHED FROM MY CONDO AS
07:54:24PM FLOODWATERS SURGED FROM THE CHANNEL.
07:54:26PM COMPLETELY ENGULFING THE TINY LOT NEXT DOOR.
07:54:31PM FIVE FEET UNDER WATER.
07:54:33PM ALSO NOTABLE, EVEN HEAVY TAMPA RAINS HAVE LEFT A THIRD OF
07:54:39PM THAT HOSPITAL SUBMERGED.
07:54:41PM 345 BAYSHORE WAS BUILT ON A 14-FOOT KNOLL, YET OUR PARKING
07:54:49PM GARAGE STILL FLOODED TOTALING SEVERAL CARS.
07:54:52PM NOW THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO STACK A 27-STORY TOWER ON THIS
07:54:57PM FLOOD-PRONED SLIVER OF LAND.
07:55:00PM I ASK YOU TO PLEASE RECOGNIZE THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL AS
07:55:05PM RECKLESS AND ILL-SUITED FOR THIS LOCATION.
07:55:08PM BEYOND FLOODING, I WANT TO STRESS THE CAREFUL DUE DILIGENCE
07:55:18PM I DID BEFORE PURCHASING MY CONDO IN THE SUMMER OF 2022.
07:55:23PM I RENTED FOR -- YEARS AT 345 BAYSHORE.
07:55:29PM THIS WOULD BECOME MY VERY FIRST HOME PURCHASE.
07:55:31PM I WAS SO EXCITED TO FINALLY HAVE SAVED ENOUGH MONEY FOR A
07:55:38PM DOWNPAYMENT TO BUY IN THE SAME BUILDING AS SOME OF MY
07:55:42PM FRIENDS, AS WELL AS MY PARENTS.
07:55:44PM I HAD ALREADY RENTED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING, FIRST
07:55:51PM OVERLOOKING THE BAY AND THEN THE CITY SIDE.
07:55:53PM AFTER -- I PURPOSEFULLY CHOSE A UNIT WITH A STUNNING VIEW OF
07:56:04PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
07:56:04PM CONFIDENT IT WOULD BE BUILT -- CONFIDENT THAT IT WOULD BE
07:56:10PM BUILT NEXT DOOR.
07:56:11PM AFTER ALL, THE LAND OWNER PUNIT SHAW PRESENTED AND ASSURED
07:56:19PM OUR COMMUNITY HE WOULD CONSTRUCT A BOUTIQUE TEN-STORY HOTEL
07:56:23PM WITH A ROOFTOP BAR, AN EXCITING REASONABLE ADDITION.
07:56:28PM NOW THAT PROMISE HAS BEEN ABANDONED FOR AN OUTSIZED 27-STORY
07:56:33PM TOWER.
07:56:33PM BUT I DIDN'T STOP THERE.
07:56:35PM WAITING TO BE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN, I TALKED TO A
07:56:46PM RESPECTED REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY WITH 27 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE
07:56:49PM THAT HAPPENED TO BE THE LANDLORD'S SISTER AND FORMER
07:56:53PM RESIDENT AT 345 BAYSHORE.
07:56:56PM KATHY HAD DONE HER OWN DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE PURCHASING
07:57:03PM REFERRING WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ZONING OFFICIALS THAT THE
07:57:05PM LOT NEXT DOOR WAS DESIGNATED FOR A EIGHT-STORY, LOW-DENSITY
07:57:10PM BUILDING CAPPED AT 98 FEET.
07:57:12PM CONFIDENT IN MY RESEARCH AND MY INVESTMENT, MY GOAL WAS TO
07:57:18PM SECURE A CONDO ABOVE TEN STORIES KNOWING EACH ADDITIONAL
07:57:23PM FOUR CAME AT A 10,000-PLUS PREMIUM.
07:57:27PM I CHOSE THE 16th FLOOR BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO
07:57:31PM PRESERVE MY BREATHTAKING VIEW OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND PROTECT
07:57:39PM WHEN I WORK FROM HOME.
07:57:40PM I COULD BE YOUR DAUGHTER.
07:57:41PM IF I ASKED FOR YOUR INSIGHTS BASED ON MY DUE DILIGENCE,
07:57:47PM WOULD YOU HAVE GUIDED ME IN THE CORRECT DECISION?
07:57:50PM I HOPE SO.
07:57:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:57:53PM PAT CIMINO, DEBAR ZAMMERMAN, JENNIFER ZURITSKI.
07:58:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
07:58:06PM >> NO, I DON'T.
07:58:07PM YOU ARE STUCK WITH ME FOR ONLY THREE MINUTES.
07:58:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
07:58:13PM >> MY NAME IS PATRICK CIMINO.
07:58:16PM LIVE IN HYDE PARK HYDE PARK.
07:58:18PM I WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH SPANISH TOWN CREEK WHICH IS THE
07:58:21PM NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THIS PROJECT IS IN.
07:58:23PM I WANT TO RECOMMEND -- I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE -- ABOUT
07:58:26PM THE WAIVER REQUEST FOR LOADING BAYS, WHICH IS NEAR AND DEAR
07:58:29PM TO ME LIVING IN HYDE PARK.
07:58:30PM I AM NOT HERE IS TO REMEDY THAT, BUT I'M HERE TO SAY TO TRY
07:58:34PM TO AVOID MISTAKES OF THE PAST.
07:58:37PM WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH TRUCKS BLOCKING OUR
07:58:39PM RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
07:58:41PM IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
07:58:42PM AND THE POLICE AND FIRE REGULARLY COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.
07:58:46PM AND TRUCKS PARK ON THE STREET CAUSE A LOT OF NUISANCE FOR
07:58:51PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:58:51PM I KNOW THAT THIS HAS SOME COMMERCIAL, IN IT IS FOOD SERVICE,
07:58:56PM MAGNIFY EVERYTHING HERE.
07:58:57PM WE ALREADY HEARD FROM ZONING ON THESE TWO CODES ABOUT THREE
07:59:01PM LOADING SPACES REQUIRED AND THE ABILITY TO MANEUVER ON THE
07:59:04PM PRIVATE PROPERTY.
07:59:05PM THESE TWO SPACES, WHICH HAVE BEEN SHOWN BEFORE, SHOW TWO
07:59:11PM LOADING BAYS.
07:59:12PM ONE IS 30 FEET DEEP.
07:59:15PM THE OTHER IS 35 FEET DEEP AND INCLUDES THE REFUSE
07:59:19PM MANAGEMENT.
07:59:19PM THEY SAY FOR LOCAL TRUCK DELIVERY.
7:59:20PM I'M NOT EVEN ADDRESSING THE AMAZON AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
7:59:23PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS EXACTLY.
7:59:24PM BUT IF YOU LOOK AT A STRAIGHT TRUCK, WHICH IS THE ONE AT THE
7:59:24PM TOP, AND A SEMI, THEY ARE STARTING AT 25 FEET AND STARTING
7:59:32PM AT 50 FEET.
7:59:34PM THESE ARE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF TRUCKS AND STREETS.
7:59:36PM I THINK THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF A SMALL
7:59:41PM FOOD SERVICE PLACE.
7:59:42PM THEY ARE DEFINITELY BLOCKING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
7:59:44PM THIS IS ONE I TOOK FROM GOOGLE MAPS ON HYDE PARK PLACE I
7:59:48PM BELIEVE BEHIND ONE BAYSHORE.
7:59:51PM HOW IS THE FIRE ENGINE SUPPOSED TO GET BEHIND THERE IN AN
7:59:54PM EMERGENCY?
7:59:54PM THIS IS A TRACTOR TRAILER PARKED ON SWANN WHICH IS ACTUALLY
8:00:00PM MORE THAN THREE LANES WIDE.
8:00:02PM AGAIN, HOW IS THIS MANAGING THE DELIVERIES?
8:00:06PM I WILL SAY WE HAVE SOME GOOD EXAMPLES, EXCELLENT PRACTICES.
8:00:12PM THIS IS BURNS AND EPICUREAN.
8:00:14PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT HERE WHERE THE TREE IS,
8:00:17PM THERE IS AN INGRESS/EGRESS FOR TRUCKS THAT WILL EVEN
8:00:21PM ACCOMMODATE A SEMI WHICH WILL ENTER, PARK, DELIVER, TURN
8:00:24PM AROUND AND COME OUT. THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND CODE MEANS.
8:00:29PM SO IT DOESN'T TAKE PLACE ON THE STREET.
8:00:31PM I WOULD RECOMMEND DENYING ANY KIND OF LOADING BAY WAIVERS OR
8:00:34PM YOU'LL SUBJECT THE COMMUNITY TO A LOT OF HARDSHIP AND
8:00:37PM NUISANCE AND PUBLIC SAFETY DANGER.
8:00:39PM THANK YOU.
8:00:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
8:00:47PM DEBBIE ZOMERMAAND FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER ZARITSKI AND THEN
8:00:55PM WE'LL TAKE THE RECESS.
8:00:57PM YES, MA'AM.
8:01:05PM YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
8:02:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
8:02:01PM MEDDLER.
8:02:13PM >> HERE.
8:02:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MICHELLE SABAN.
8:02:15PM TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES.
8:02:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
8:02:18PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
8:02:19PM >> I'M DEBBIE ZOMERMAAND.
8:02:21PM 192 CORSICA.
8:02:22PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8:02:24PM THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU
8:02:26PM TONIGHT.
8:02:27PM BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, I'M A REGISTERED MUNICIPAL FINANCIAL
8:02:31PM ADVISOR AND PRINCIPAL.
8:02:33PM I SERVE IN THE AREA OF HOUSING.
8:02:35PM I WORK FOR A LARGE COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY AND BEEN
8:02:39PM THERE OVER 21 YEARS.
8:02:42PM FOR OVER 12 YEARS, CAROL WILSON WITH THE WILSON COMPANIES
8:02:46PM AND THE WILSON COMPANIES WERE MY CLIENT HERE IN TAMPA.
8:02:49PM I COULD GO ON AND ON BUT THAT COVERS THE LAST QUARTER
8:02:52PM CENTURY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
8:02:54PM FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF THE SCOPE OF THE DEALS I DO, I JUST
8:02:58PM PULLED SOME QUICK NUMBERS BEFORE I CAME HERE TODAY.
8:03:00PM I WORK WITH BOND PROGRAMS.
8:03:02PM SO IN 2023, WE ISSUED BONDS THAT FUNDED 890 AFFORDABLE
8:03:08PM HOUSING UNITS.
8:03:09PM PROBABLY THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS WERE AROUND 375
8:03:13PM MILLION.
8:03:14PM IN 2024, WE BUILT -- OR WE ISSUED BONDS FOR 580 UNITS OF
8:03:22PM TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS WERE PROBABLY 245 MILLION.
8:03:25PM THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE WHAT I DO WITH REGARD TO WE HAVE
8:03:29PM SUBORDINATE LOAN PROGRAMS, LINE OF CREDIT FOR BUILDING
8:03:33PM SINGLE-FAMILY INFILL HOMES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
8:03:35PM I WORK IN THIS AREA ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.
8:03:38PM THAT'S MY DAY JOB.
8:03:40PM SO YOU'VE HEARD ME UP HERE BEFORE SAYING THAT PDs ARE A
8:03:45PM WORK AROUND OF THE CODE.
8:03:47PM YOU HEARD THAT A MILLION TIMES FROM ME.
8:03:49PM I'M HERE TO SAY I STILL BELIEVE PDs ARE A WORK AROUND THE
8:03:56PM CODE.
8:03:57PM WHAT OPENED MY EYES WITH THIS ONE IS SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
8:04:00PM APPLICATIONS ARE AN ADMINISTRATIVE WORK AROUND OF THE
8:04:08PM DECISIONS YOU MAKE WHEN YOU DO A PD.
8:04:10PM WHAT I'VE DONE IS WALK YOU THROUGH KIND OF WHAT I FIND IS A
8:04:14PM LITTLE BIT ALARMING WITH THIS PROCESS.
8:04:17PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST GROUPING OF PAPERWORK, I'M NOT
8:04:20PM GOING TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL HERE, BUT I ALWAYS THINK A
8:04:25PM BIG SITE PLAN HELPS ME LOOK AT THINGS.
8:04:27PM SO I'VE GOT A SITE PLAN OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
8:04:30PM THE SECOND ONE IS WHAT WAS APPROVED FROM THE PD REZONING OF
8:04:36PM 1709.
8:04:37PM AND THEN I BLEW UP THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN
8:04:41PM FOR THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT.
8:04:43PM AND THEN ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PART HERE, I KIND OF TAB
8:04:47PM THE ELEVATIONS BUT I'VE GOT THE SITE PLAN AND THE
8:04:51PM CORRESPONDING ELEVATIONS THAT TIE BACK TO THESE SITE PLANS.
8:04:56PM IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH REGARDS TO
8:05:02PM THIS REQUEST.
8:05:03PM SO IF WE GO INTO THE NEXT TAB, WHICH IS THE ENLARGED DATA
8:05:08PM TABLE, CERTIFIED SITE PLAN BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND ELEVATIONS
8:05:12PM INCLUDES TYPICAL FLOOR PLANS WITH USE AND SQUARE FOOT PER
8:05:16PM FLOOR, YOU WILL SEE A DATA TABLE IN THERE.
8:05:20PM I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE DONE A SECOND ONE SO THE PUBLIC CAN
8:05:23PM KIND OF SEE.
8:05:24PM IT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
8:05:26PM YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE ORIGINAL DATA TABLE FOR THE PD, PLAN
8:05:32PM Z 1034, THERE WERE 11 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT
8:05:36PM WERE IDENTIFIED IN PHASE THREE.
8:05:39PM THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT WAS CLEARLY SPECIFIED AS 8
8:05:43PM STORIES.
8:05:44PM YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT IT SAYS SEE BUILDING ELEVATIONS
8:05:47PM ATTACHED.
8:05:47PM AND THEN DOWN HERE BELOW YOU'LL SEE TWO MORE REFERENCES TO
8:05:52PM 11 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
8:05:54PM I DID READ THE TRANSCRIPTS ON THAT HEARING.
8:05:56PM IT WAS A HIGHLY DISCUSSED MATTER.
8:05:58PM AND THIS WAS -- THE PUBLIC INPUT WAS SIGNIFICANT WITH
8:06:03PM REGARDS TO THIS ISSUE.
8:06:05PM SO THEN I WANT TO TAKE YOU TO THE NEXT PAGE OF THIS PACKET.
8:06:11PM YOU CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN WHICH AGAIN SAYS EIGHT
8:06:15PM STORIES AND 11 RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAD A COURTYARD THAT WAS IN
8:06:19PM THE MIDDLE OF THIS FOOTPRINT RIGHT HERE.
8:06:21PM COURTYARD IS ALSO IN THE TRANSCRIPTS.
8:06:24PM I FOUND THAT AS WELL.
8:06:25PM I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THEM WITH ME.
8:06:28PM MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT.
8:06:29PM YOU CAN SEE ALL THIS AREA AROUND HERE.
8:06:31PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ACTUALLY DID QUESTION THE GREENSPACE
8:06:34PM QUITE A BIT ON THIS APPLICATION.
8:06:36PM SO I COULD TELL YOU ARE REMEMBERING VERY VIVIDLY WHAT THE
8:06:42PM DISCUSSION WAS.
8:06:43PM THE GREENSPACE WAS DISCUSSED AND THIS COURTYARD WAS
8:06:46PM DISCUSSED AND THE FOOTPRINT WAS DISCUSSED.
8:06:48PM IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A LOT OF
8:06:52PM INFORMATION WITH REGARDS TO THE MATH.
8:06:55PM AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS AGAIN IT IS AN EIGHT-STORY
8:06:57PM BUILDING.
8:06:58PM YOU'VE GOT SIX STORIES THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND THEN
8:07:02PM YOU'VE GOT TWO FLOORS OF PARKING WHICH RESULTS INTO ABOUT
8:07:07PM 138,000 SQUARE FEET.
8:07:09PM ALL THE MATH IS KIND OF TYING BACK TO THAT 753 NUMBER,
8:07:15PM 753,000 NUMBER THAT YOU SEE OVER HERE THAT WAS ON THE FRONT
8:07:23PM PAGE.
8:07:24PM IT GETS CALCULATED, 753,198 SQUARE FEET.
8:07:28PM IN THE FIRST PLAN, IT WAS CONTEMPLATED THAT THESE THREE
8:07:34PM PHASES WOULD HAVE A THIRD PHASE AND THAT WAS THE LESS
8:07:37PM INTENSE PHASE WITHIN THIS SITE PLAN.
8:07:40PM WHAT I ALSO DID HERE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE SITE DATA TABLE,
8:07:48PM THIS IS PRETTY CONCERNING TO ME.
8:07:50PM THIS IS WHAT IT ORIGINALLY LOOKED LIKE.
8:07:53PM AND THEN, SORRY, I WASN'T A TEACHER AND I DON'T MAKE VERY
8:07:56PM GOOD HANDOUTS, WHAT I DID FOR YOU IS I TRIED TO GO BACK IN
8:08:02PM SO YOU COULD SEE THE FIRST SITE PLAN -- OR DATA TABLE, THE
8:08:06PM SITE DATA TABLE CHANGED TO THIS SITE DATA TABLE OVER HERE
8:08:11PM WHICH WAS THE 1709 REZONING.
8:08:14PM SO HOW STAFF WAS ABLE TO TAKE OFF AND CHANGE DATA
8:08:17PM INFORMATION AND YOU GO FROM 11 UNITS TO 113 IS A VERY BIG
8:08:26PM QUESTION.
8:08:27PM ALSO, IF YOU COME OVER HERE, HERE IS THE DATA TABLE THAT I
8:08:30PM HAD TAKEN AND KIND OF FIT IT ON THE SHEET FROM THE
8:08:33PM INFORMATION THAT WAS SENT TO ACCELA FOR THIS TRANSACTION,
8:08:38PM FOR THIS PROPOSAL.
8:08:39PM SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THAT TO SEE
8:08:42PM ADMINISTRATIVELY HOW MUCH THIS DEVELOPMENT CHANGED.
8:08:46PM SO I PROVIDED THAT FOR YOU.
8:08:48PM NOW, A BIG PART OF A SITE PLAN, AND REMEMBER, MY CAREER HAS
8:08:55PM A LOT TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENT AND I'VE WORKED WITH DEVELOPERS
8:08:59PM AND THAT'S BEEN MY CAREER -- I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE SINCE
8:09:03PM THE MID '80s.
8:09:04PM GENERAL NOTES ON THE SITE PLANS ARE THERE FOR A REASON.
8:09:09PM AND THEY SPECIFY CONDITIONS THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC.
8:09:14PM AND IF YOU LOOKED ON PAGE 2 OF THESE GENERAL NOTES, YOU WILL
8:09:19PM SEE, AND THIS IS FROM THE ORIGINAL ZONING, THE FINAL
8:09:23PM BUILDING FOOTPRINTS WILL BE DETERMINED DURING FINAL DESIGN
8:09:25PM PHASE AND SHALL BE CONFIGURED WITHIN THE PROPOSED BUILDING
8:09:29PM ENVELOPES.
8:09:30PM WELL, I JUST SHOWED YOU THE ENVELOPE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY
8:09:33PM PROPOSED, AND IT HAD THAT COURTYARD IN IT, RIGHT?
8:09:37PM IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT YOU HAD TO BUILD WITHIN THIS
8:09:41PM ENVELOPE.
8:09:42PM THAT WAS ON THE SITE PLANS.
8:09:44PM YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THIS BUILDING ENVELOPE CHANGED FROM
8:09:47PM KIND OF, LET'S SAY, I DON'T KNOW, C KIND OF OR A U, IT
8:09:51PM BECAME A BIG RECTANGLE.
8:09:54PM IN CONFLICT, SOMEHOW VIA STAFF THEY CHANGED THAT
8:09:58PM REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT REQUIREMENT BECAUSE
8:10:00PM IT TIED BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
8:10:04PM AND THEN WHEN YOU GO IN AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS WRITTEN
8:10:10PM HERE, I WANT TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE THAT IN THE FOOTNOTES
8:10:17PM IT SAYS FINAL BUILDING FOOTPRINTS WILL BE DETERMINED DURING
8:10:20PM THE FINAL PHASE AND SHALL BE CONFIGURED WITHIN THE PROPOSED
8:10:23PM BUILDING ENVELOPES.
8:10:25PM WELL, SHALL, WITH REGARDS TO YOUR CODE IS MANDATORY AND I
8:10:31PM PUT THE CODE REFERENCE HERE.
8:10:32PM I PULLED IT FROM THE CODE AT THE TIME THIS DECISION WAS
8:10:37PM MADE.
8:10:38PM SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE SITE PLAN NOTES
8:10:42PM CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN TO THE 1709 SUBSTANTIAL
8:10:51PM CHANGE, AND THEN NOW, YOU STILL GET THE SAME WORDING IN THE
8:10:57PM REZONING 2399 -- EXCUSE ME, IT WAS THE SAME IN 1709 BUT NOW
8:11:03PM IN 2399 IT SAYS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS
8:11:07PM CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE AND MAY BE MODIFIED SO LONG AS IT
8:11:10PM COMPLIES WITH THE SETBACKS ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE SITE DATA
8:11:15PM TABLE.
8:11:15PM WHEN THIS PD WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED, THAT FOOTPRINT WAS VERY
8:11:19PM SIGNIFICANT.
8:11:20PM NOW IT'S ALL OUT THE WINDOW.
8:11:22PM IT'S MUCH MORE INTENSIVE.
8:11:23PM IT IS A BIG RECTANGLE.
8:11:26PM THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE PD AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS
8:11:32PM DISCUSSED.
8:11:33PM AT EVERY MEETING, WE HEAR THAT THE PD SITE PLAN CONTROLS.
8:11:36PM WELL, IT'S NOT CONTROLLING ANYMORE.
8:11:38PM THROUGH THESE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, IT'S BASICALLY BEEN
8:11:44PM SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
8:11:47PM SO THERE WILL BE SOME REFERENCES TO REVISIONS.
8:11:50PM I PUT IN THIS -- OH, WOW.
8:11:53PM OKAY.
8:11:54PM THAT WAS TEN MINUTES?
8:11:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NINE AND A HALF.
8:11:57PM >> OH, OKAY.
8:11:58PM I PUT IN CONFLICT PROVISIONS.
8:12:00PM I'VE GOT TO DO THE PROJECT NARRATIVE.
8:12:05PM THE WARRANTY DEED.
8:12:07PM SORRY.
8:12:08PM JUST SO MUCH IN HERE.
8:12:09PM WITH REGARDS TO THE MATH, THE WARRANTY DEED BETWEEN CITADEL
8:12:14PM DEVELOPMENT AND BAYSHORE HOLDINGS, IT SAYS 11 RESIDENTIAL
8:12:17PM UNITS -- WELL, IT'S REFERENCED HERE AND THEN 160,000 SQUARE
8:12:23PM FEET AND --
8:12:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
8:12:26PM THANK YOU.
8:12:26PM OUR FINAL SPEAKER FOR THIS SURROUND JENNIFER ZARITSKY WHO
8:12:33PM HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
8:12:35PM AFTER THIS SPEAKER, WE'LL TAKE A TEN-MINUTE RECESS.
8:12:55PM WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SOME ODD PEOPLE DOWN STAIRS THAT WANT TO
8:12:59PM COME UP.
8:12:59PM IF YOU HAVE SPOKEN, IF YOU GO DOWN STAIRS TO THE FIRST
8:13:02PM FLOOR, WE HAVE THE TVs ON.
8:13:04PM YOU CAN WATCH THE MEETING JUST THE SAME.
8:13:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BOBBIE O'BRIEN.
8:13:08PM DON ROBERTS.
8:13:09PM JAN LOWRY.
8:13:12PM THREE NAMES.
8:13:13PM SIX MINUTES, PLEASE.
8:13:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
8:13:15PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
8:13:16PM >> MY NAME IS JENNIFER ZARITSKY.
8:13:21PM ATTORNEY, INVESTOR AND WORK AT A SMALL REAL ESTATE
8:13:23PM BROKERAGE.
8:13:24PM TAMPA NATIVE, BORN AND RAISED HERE.
8:13:27PM ATTENDED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES.
8:13:30PM HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE BERKELEY.
8:13:33PM I LIVE IN A CONDO OVERLOOKING THE SUBJECT LOT.
8:13:36PM SINCE I MOVED BACK TO TAMPA AFTER LAW SCHOOL AND PURCHASED
8:13:39PM MY HOME OVER 12 YEARS AGO, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE WHERE I LIVE
8:13:42PM AND TRULY NO PLACE I'D RATHER BE.
8:13:45PM I'M HERE TO VOICE MY OBJECTIONS TO THE LIBERTY GROUP'S
8:13:47PM RECENT PROPOSAL TO REZONE THE FINAL PHASE OF A MULTIPHASE
8:13:51PM PROJECT IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A 26 OR 25 STORY LUXURY
8:13:55PM HIGH-RISE APARTMENT WITH A SIX-STORY PARKING STRUCTURE
8:14:00PM LOCATED AT 319 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
8:14:03PM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF'S
8:14:06PM RECENT FINDINGS THAT THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS
8:14:09PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
8:14:11PM PLAN.
8:14:11PM I ALSO AGREE WITH THEIR CONCLUSION THAT THE PROPOSED PD IS
8:14:15PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE R 83
8:14:18PM DESIGNATION IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND
8:14:20PM IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL POLICY GUIDANCE OF THE
8:14:24PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
8:14:24PM AS SUCH I WOULD LIKE TO URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO DENY THE
8:14:28PM DEVELOPER'S REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM ITS CURRENT
8:14:31PM PD TO A DIFFERENT PD, RES 23-99.
8:14:36PM PROPOSED BUILDING DOES NOT BELONG ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
8:14:39PM ACCORDING TO 9.22, THE IMPACTS OF REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ON
8:14:43PM THE EXISTING PHYSICAL AND SOCIAL FRAMEWORK AND CHARACTER OF
8:14:45PM THE AFFECTED AREA SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AND DISCUSSED DURING
8:14:48PM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
8:14:49PM THE BUILDING CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED IS AN ABSOLUTE EYESORE
8:14:53PM COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER
8:14:57PM OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS BAYSHORE
8:14:59PM BOULEVARD ITSELF.
8:15:02PM MULTIPLE CITY STAFF DEPARTMENTS HAVE FOUND THAT THE PROPOSED
8:15:04PM DEVELOPMENT IS INCONSISTENT WITH ESTABLISHED LOCAL CODES AND
8:15:06PM STANDARDS.
8:15:07PM I REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THEM BASED ON THREE STAFF FINDINGS
8:15:10PM BEING INCONSISTENT.
8:15:11PM HERE ARE SOME QUOTES FROM THE STAFF REPORTS THEMSELVES.
8:15:15PM FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION STAFF.
8:15:16PM THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN WILL NOT RESOLVE THE
8:15:19PM ISSUE FOR STAFF'S INCONSISTENT FINDINGS.
8:15:22PM PROPOSAL IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT.
8:15:23PM THE CURRENT PD HAD PHASE 3 AT 11 UNITS AND MAXIMUM OF EIGHT
8:15:28PM STORIES OR 98 FEET.
8:15:29PM PROPOSED HEIGHT IS OUT OF CHARACTER AND EXCEEDS THE SCALE
8:15:32PM AND MASSING WHICH EXISTS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
8:15:35PM SCALE AND HEIGHT EXCEEDS CURRENT BUILT DEPARTMENT.
8:15:39PM FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, PLAN IS INCONSISTENT
8:15:41PM WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF THREE LOADING SPACES.
8:15:43PM ONLY TWO ARE BEING PROVIDED.
8:15:45PM TRANSPORTATION ALSO FOUND IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE
8:15:47PM REQUIREMENT FOR THE LOADING SPACE TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY
8:15:49PM AND TO BE ACCESSED IN ONE CONTINUOUS MOVER.
8:15:52PM PLAN DOES NOT DO THAT.
8:15:53PM FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, THE PROPOSAL IS
8:15:55PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
8:15:58PM PHASE THREE WAS 11 UNITS AND 8 STORIES.
8:16:01PM HEIGHT PROVIDED A SENSITIVE TRANSITION BETWEEN THE LOWER
8:16:05PM RESIDENTIAL TO THE SITE'S EAST AND HIGHER USES TO THE NORTH.
8:16:08PM DEFINITION OF COMPATIBILITY IN THE COMP PLAN DOES NOT MEAN
8:16:11PM THE SAME AS AND IT REFERS TO THE SENSITIVITY OF DEVELOPMENT
8:16:15PM PROPOSALS IN MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING
8:16:17PM DEVELOPMENT.
8:16:18PM THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
8:16:20PM AND IS NOT MITIGATING THE IMPACTS THROUGH EFFECTIVE MASSING
8:16:24PM AND SCALE.
8:16:25PM IT IS ALSO OUT OF SCALE WITH THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF PHASE
8:16:27PM THREE WHICH SOUGHT TO PROVIDE A TRANSITION IN DENSITY ON
8:16:30PM THIS PARCEL WHICH WAS THE FURTHER FOREST DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND
8:16:32PM HIGHER INTENSITY LOSES.
8:16:34PM THE COMP PLAN SEEKS TO BALANCE HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY WITH
8:16:37PM THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
8:16:40PM PROPOSAL OF 25 STORIES WOULD STILL BE OUT OF SCALE WITH THE
8:16:43PM SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
8:16:44PM BUILDING PARKING DIRECTLY ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
8:16:49PM THE PROPOSED LUXURY APARTMENT COMPLEX INCLUDES A SIX STORY
8:16:54PM GARAGE LOCATED DIRECTLY ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
8:16:58PM DIRECTLY ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
8:16:59PM IT'S GOING TO BE ILLUMINATED 24 HOURS A DAY AND ALLOWING A
8:17:05PM STRUCTURE LIKE THIS TO BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET LET ALONE
8:17:08PM BEING BUILT ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS GOING TO BE A HUGE
8:17:11PM MISTAKE.
8:17:12PM ACCORDING TO LAND USE POLICY 15.3.1 DEVELOPERS ARE SUPPOSED
8:17:16PM TO DESIGN PARKING STRUCTURES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO RESEMBLE
8:17:20PM ADJACENT BUILDINGS PARTICULARLY AT PEDESTRIAN LEVELS.
8:17:22PM THE CURRENT PARKING STRUCTURE SIGNIFICANTLY DEVIATES FROM
8:17:25PM LOCAL DESIGN STANDARDS.
8:17:27PM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO DEVELOPER HAS EVER BEEN ALLOWED TO BUILD
8:17:30PM A PARKING STORY MORE THAN TWO STORIES HIGH IN A LOCATION
8:17:33PM THAT DIRECTLY FRONTS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
8:17:36PM MANY HAVE PROPOSED IN THE PAST BUT NONE MANAGED TO SECURE
8:17:40PM APPROVAL FOR SUCH A STRUCTURE AS FAR AS I'M AWARE.
8:17:43PM THUS ALTHOUGH IT MAY NOT BE AN OFFICIAL ROLE THAT THEY CAN'T
8:17:47PM BE LOCATED DIRECTLY ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD FRONTAGE, IT IS AN
8:17:51PM ESTABLISHED DESIGN STANDARD THAT ANYONE CAN PLAINLY SEE
8:17:55PM SIMPLY BY DRIVING FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER.
8:17:58PM EVEN THE NEW HIGH-RISES UNDER CONSTRUCTION TOOK CARE TO
8:18:01PM PLACE PARKING GARAGES AS FAR OUT OF SIGHT AS THEY COULD
8:18:07PM MANAGE.
8:18:07PM I HOPE THE CITY REALIZES THAT THE PARKING STRUCTURE
8:18:20PM CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED IS A FAR WORSE EYESORE THAN THE
8:18:23PM PARKING GARAGE THEY ALREADY BUILT DURING PHASE TWO BECAUSE
8:18:26PM UNLIKE THE PHASE TWO GARAGE WHICH WAS ONLY ON ONE SIDE OF
8:18:29PM THE BUILDING, THE PROPOSED GARAGE IS GOING TO BE PLAINLY
8:18:33PM VISIBLE FROM ALL FOUR SIDES.
8:18:35PM IT'S GOING TO BE ILLUMINATED 24 HOURS A DAY AND PEOPLE HAVE
8:18:41PM LIGHTS STREAMING ON TO THEIR PROPERTY.
8:18:44PM DON'T ALLOW THIS TO FIND A HOME ON OUR QUAINT RESIDENTIAL
8:18:51PM STREET.
8:18:51PM IN ADDITION TO MY CONCERNS OF THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED
8:18:53PM APARTMENT COMPLEX, MUCH OF THE DOCUMENTATION PUT FORTH TO
8:18:56PM SUPPORT THE BUILDER'S -- NUMBER OF STANDARDS.
8:18:59PM A LOT OF SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS ARE MISSING CRITICAL FACTUAL
8:19:04PM DETAILS.
8:19:05PM CITY STAFF NOTED THE EXISTENCE OF MORE THAN 40 DIFFERENT
8:19:08PM ITEMS ON THE SITE PLAN.
8:19:10PM FURTHERMORE, SOME OF THE INFORMATION ALSO APPEARS IN
8:19:13PM CONFLICT.
8:19:14PM UNIT BREAKDOWNS OF WHAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED IN PRIOR PHASES
8:19:19PM DEPENDS TO VARY DEPENDING ON WHICH ITERATION YOU LOOK AT.
8:19:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:19:23PM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL BREAK FOR A TEN-MINUTE RECESS.
8:19:26PM WE NEED ABOUT 30 SOME ODD SEATS.
8:19:29PM IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE SECOND FLOOR, WE HAVE THE TV SCREENS
8:19:32PM AND EVERYTHING DOWN THERE AND THOSE THAT BROUGHT THE MODELS,
8:19:35PM PLEASE TAKE THEM WITH YOU AND PUT THE TABLE BACK.
8:19:39PM WE ARE IN RECESS FOR TEN MINUTES.
8:19:41PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:19:43PM [RECESS]
8:38:10PM >> CARLSON?
8:38:11PM HURTAK?
8:38:11PM CLENDENIN?
8:38:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
8:38:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
8:38:15PM >> VIERA?
8:38:16PM MIRANDA?
8:38:18PM >> HERE.
8:38:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
8:38:20PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
8:38:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THE GENTLEMAN AT
8:38:23PM THE LECTERN, IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING THIS EVENING
8:38:25PM AND HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN -- WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW FACES --
8:38:29PM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAPPENED AND WE WILL SWEAR
8:38:32PM YOU IN.
8:38:32PM IF YOU ARE SPEAKING THIS EVENING, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE
8:38:35PM YOUR RIGHT HAND.
8:38:39PM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
8:38:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROBERT LEONETTI.
8:38:49PM CARROLL ANN BENNETT, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
8:39:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SEVEN NAMES.
8:39:34PM [INAUDIBLE]
8:40:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
8:40:03PM GO AHEAD.
8:40:04PM >> SURE.
8:40:05PM GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
8:40:06PM ROBERT LEONETTI.
8:40:08PM RESIDENT OF 345 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
8:40:10PM JUST FOR MY CV, 45 YEARS OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION
8:40:18PM EXPERIENCE, MASTER'S DEGREE IN CIVIL ENGINEERING FROM
8:40:21PM MANHATTAN COLLEGE, FORMERLY A TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH THE CITY
8:40:24PM OF YONKERS IN NEW YORK, AND I PROVIDED WITNESS TESTIMONY IN
8:40:28PM ZONING BOARDS OVER 500 CASES IN MY HUMBLE CAREER.
8:40:33PM SO LET'S GET STARTED.
8:40:35PM PREVIOUS EFFORTS TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT WERE DENIED BY
8:40:38PM FORMER CITY COUNCILS DUE TO THE ADVERSE IMPACTS OF
8:40:41PM DEVELOPMENT ON TRAFFIC.
8:40:42PM SINCE 2016, MOST RECENT CASE, TAMPA'S POPULATION AND TRAFFIC
8:40:49PM HAS ONLY INCREASED AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NEARLY
8:40:52PM DOUBLE THE ALLOWED DENSITY FOR THIS THREE-QUARTER ACRE SITE.
8:40:57PM SO LET'S GET INTO THE TRAFFIC GENERATION AND DISTRIBUTION
8:41:01PM FOR THIS PROJECT.
8:41:03PM WE GENERALLY DON'T DISAGREE WITH EITHER THE METHODOLOGY FROM
8:41:09PM EITHER THE TRIP GENERATION OR DISTRIBUTION PRACTICES, ALL
8:41:13PM WITHIN INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
8:41:15PM IN GENERAL, WE FIND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE FOLLOWED THAT
8:41:18PM WE OFFERED TO JONATHAN SCOTT AND STAFF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY
8:41:22PM TO COMMENT BEFORE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WAS ACTUALLY
8:41:26PM PREPARED.
8:41:27PM BUT WE DID FIND SOME INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE COMPUTER
8:41:32PM DOCUMENTATION AND THE ASSIGNMENTS OF THE DISTRIBUTIONS TO
8:41:35PM THE STREET NETWORK THAT SHOW UP AS INACCURATE CAPACITY
8:41:41PM ANALYSES FOR THE DETERMINATION OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S
8:41:45PM GOING TO BE AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.
8:41:46PM SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE DIAGRAMS THAT I HAVE PROVIDED,
8:41:53PM AND IF YOU LOOKED AT THE FIGURES IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT
8:41:57PM REPORT, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WERE ACTUALLY SOME TRIPS LOST ON
8:42:00PM THE NETWORK.
8:42:01PM IF YOU ARE COMING OFF OF THE DAVIS BRIDGE, DAVIS ISLAND
8:42:05PM BRIDGE AS YOU'RE COMING INTO VERN STREET TO MAKE THAT RIGHT
8:42:09PM TURN, THERE WERE 444 VEHICLES PROPOSED TO MAKE THAT RIGHT
8:42:16PM TURN THAT AS THE TRAFFIC REPORT INDICATES, ONLY 402 TRIPS
8:42:23PM WERE ACTUALLY COUNTED FOR THE FOLLOWING INTERSECTION.
8:42:28PM WITHIN THAT 200-FOOT PERIOD OR DISTANCE, ALMOST 40 SOME ODD
8:42:33PM TRIPS WERE LOST.
8:42:34PM THESE ARE THE TYPES OF INACCURACIES THAT A PERSON LIKE A
8:42:37PM TRAFFIC ENGINEER LOOKING AT A REPORT WOULD SAY, YOU'RE
8:42:41PM STARTING TO LOSE SOME CREDIBILITY IN TERMS OF HOW THESE
8:42:44PM ASSIGNMENTS WERE MADE TO THE NETWORK.
8:42:47PM SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES ARE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC FOR THIS
8:42:53PM DEVELOPMENT.
8:42:54PM THE TRAFFIC GENERATION AND DISTRIBUTION WAS TAKEN OUT TO THE
8:42:57PM BUILD YEAR OF 2028.
8:43:01PM WE LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTION ANALYSES FOR EACH OF THE KEY
8:43:05PM INTERSECTIONS, BUT MOST NOTABLY THE BASIS OF THE ANALYSIS
8:43:09PM PERFORMED WERE FOR ONLY FOUR KEY INTERSECTIONS.
8:43:13PM SEVERAL INTERSECTIONS REQUIRE MITIGATIONS TO ACHIEVE AN
8:43:17PM ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
8:43:18PM AND JUST FOR THE COUNCIL'S EDIFICATION, LEVEL OF SERVICE A
8:43:24PM GOOD.
8:43:25PM LEVEL OF SERVICE F, NOT SO GOOD, FAILS.
8:43:28PM JUST LIKE A STUDENT'S REPORT CARD.
8:43:31PM SO WE TOOK A LOOK AND BASED ON INDUSTRY RECOGNIZED
8:43:35PM PRACTICES, WE SEE THAT SEVERAL OF THE INTERSECTIONS ARE
8:43:38PM ACTUALLY FAILING AND THEN SOME MITIGATIONS OFFERED TO
8:43:43PM CORRECT THOSE DEFICIENCIES.
8:43:45PM HOWEVER, IT'S USUALLY A GOOD PRACTICE FOR WHEN YOU'RE DOING
8:43:52PM AN IMPACT ANALYSIS NOT TO JUST LOOK AT THE 2028 BUILD YEAR
8:43:58PM FOR THIS PROJECT.
8:43:58PM MOST PROGRESSIVE CITIES LOOK AT A 10-YEAR WINDOW OR A
8:44:02PM 20-YEAR WINDOW BEYOND THE BUILD YEAR BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT
8:44:07PM THE TRAFFIC JUST TO WORK THE DAY THE BUILDING OPENS.
8:44:09PM YOU WANT TO BE SURE IT HAS AMPLE CAPACITY FOR FUTURE YEARS.
8:44:14PM THEN WE LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTIONS THAT THE DEVELOPER AND
8:44:17PM THE CONSULTANT REVIEWED.
8:44:18PM PLANT AVENUE AND PLATT, SELECT MOVEMENTS FAIL AND EXCEED THE
8:44:22PM TRAFFIC VOLUME CAPACITY RATIO OF ONE.
8:44:26PM SO THE GLASS CAN'T BE MORE THAN FULL.
8:44:28PM IN AN ATTEMPT TO ACHIEVE LEVEL OF SERVICE, THE CONSULTANT
8:44:33PM RECOMMENDED CONVERTING AN EXISTING NORTHBOUND RIGHT-TURN
8:44:37PM LANE ON PLATT THAT RIGHT NOW YOU MAKE THAT RIGHT TURN, THERE
8:44:44PM IS A BICYCLE LANE THERE AND THEN THE TWO THRU TRAFFIC LANES
8:44:49PM AS YOU GO TOWARD THE LEE ROY SELMON.
8:44:52PM IT'S A MITIGATION MEASURE, OBVIOUSLY, WHAT THEY ARE FAILING
8:44:56PM TO REALIZE IS THERE IS A TRAFFIC ISLAND.
8:44:58PM AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M ON I THINK PAGE 2.
8:45:02PM THERE IS A RAISED TRAFFIC ISLAND THERE, AND THAT WOULD
8:45:06PM REQUIRE ITS REMOVAL WITH THE STREETLIGHT POLE THAT'S ALSO ON
8:45:11PM THAT ISLAND.
8:45:12PM IT CREATES MORE OF A SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE BICYCLE LANE AND
8:45:17PM PEDESTRIANS IF THAT'S A THRU MOVEMENT.
8:45:21PM AS YOU GO DOWN NORTH PAST THE INTERSECTION, THAT CONTINUES
8:45:26PM INTO ANOTHER RIGHT-TURN LANE TO GO ONTO THE SELMON AND A
8:45:31PM WEAVING SECTION BETWEEN BICYCLISTS, OTHER CARS GOING NORTH
8:45:36PM TOWARDS KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SO WE SEE THAT AS A MITIGATION
8:45:40PM THAT REALLY DOESN'T REALLY FIT IN TERMS OF THE CAPACITY
8:45:45PM ACHIEVEMENTS AS WELL AS THE ISSUES OR THE DECREASE IN SAFETY
8:45:49PM TO PEDESTRIANS AND TO MOTORISTS.
8:45:56PM MOVING ON DOWN TO PAGE 3, ALSO, THERE WERE SOME MITIGATIONS
8:46:03PM AT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND PLATT STREET.
8:46:07PM WITH THE ADDITION OF THE PROJECT-GENERATED TRAFFIC, LEVEL OF
8:46:11PM SERVICE B AND C CAN BE ACHIEVED DURING THE PEAK HOURS, BUT
8:46:15PM MODIFICATIONS TO THE SIGNAL TIMING IS A PROPOSED SOLUTION
8:46:20PM WHICH IS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION FOR A LONG-TERM PROBLEM.
8:46:24PM SO THE MITIGATIONS THAT ARE OFFERED THERE, ALTHOUGH THEY
8:46:27PM WILL WORK, ARE NOT GOING TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE IN YORES TO
8:46:31PM COME.
8:46:32PM AT THE INTERSECTION OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND VERN STREET,
8:46:36PM THERE IS THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.
8:46:38PM THIS CURRENTLY IS UNSIGNALIZED FOR THRU TRAFFIC NORTH AND
8:46:43PM SOUTHBOUND AND IS CONTROLLED BY A CENTER RAISED MEDIAN ON
8:46:48PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
8:46:49PM YOU HAVE DEDICATED BIKE LANES ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND
8:46:52PM RIGHT TURNS ARE ONLY ALLOWED FROM VERN STREET.
8:46:55PM VERN STREET EASTBOUND RIGHT ONTO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD RIGHT
8:46:58PM NOW IS CALCULATED TO OPERATE AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE F BECAUSE
8:47:03PM OF THE SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, YOU'VE GOT
8:47:07PM THAT HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME COMING OFF OF DAVIS ISLAND BRIDGE
8:47:12PM ONTO VERN.
8:47:13PM SO THAT TRAFFIC BACKS UP DURING THE KEY PEAK HOURS,
8:47:18PM ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTERNOON.
8:47:19PM TO MITIGATE THIS CONDITION, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS PROPOSED TO
8:47:24PM IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION'S OPERATING CAPACITY FROM A LEVEL
8:47:27PM OF SERVICE TO C AND D DURING THE A.M. AND P.M. PEAK HOURS.
8:47:31PM HOWEVER, THE TRAFFIC STUDY -- LET ME GET TO THE NEXT PAGE
8:47:38PM FOR YOU -- IS SILENT ON THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF
8:47:42PM IMPLEMENTING THIS TRAFFIC CONTROL MEASURE.
8:47:45PM I'LL GO INTO A COUPLE OF THOSE POINTS.
8:47:47PM THE MOST UNFORESEEN NOT MENTIONED IN THE STUDY IS THE IMPACT
8:47:52PM OF REDISTRIBUTING TRAFFIC PATTERNS ONTO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD
8:47:56PM MEDIAN WHICH IS NOW CLOSED.
8:47:58PM IF YOU OPEN THAT FOR A NORTHBOUND LEFT-TURN LANE, THE
8:48:01PM ANALYSIS AT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AT NORTHBOUND LEFT-TURN LANE
8:48:06PM WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE.
8:48:07PM BAYSHORE NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC NOW WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A
8:48:12PM LEFT-HAND TURN ONTO VERN STREET AND THAT WOULD NOW CREATE A
8:48:16PM CUT-THRU STREET WHICH IS CURRENTLY RESTRICTED.
8:48:20PM STOPPING MAIN LINE TRAFFIC ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, NORTHBOUND
8:48:23PM TRAFFIC WITH LIMITED SIGHT DISTANCE ALSO CAN CAUSE SOME
8:48:28PM GEOMETRY CURVATURE ISSUES AND THE PROBABILITY OF INCREASED
8:48:33PM REAR-END COLLISIONS, IF YOU HAD A CYCLE OF A LIGHT CHANGE
8:48:38PM AND STOPPING TRAFFIC GOING NORTHBOUND TOWARDS THE CITY, YOU
8:48:41PM HAVE THE BRIDGE RIGHT THERE, THE PEDESTRIAN ROADWAY BRIDGE
8:48:47PM OVERPASS ON A CURVE.
8:48:50PM IT'S GOING TO HAVE LIMITED SIGHT DISTANCE TO SEE THE QUEUE
8:48:54PM OF CARS THAT MAY BE STOPPED AT THE LIGHT.
8:48:56PM THE INTRODUCTION OF THE LEFT-TURN LANE WILL INTRODUCE A
8:48:59PM CONFLICT MOVEMENT WITH BAYSHORE BOULEVARD TO INDUCE
8:49:02PM ACCIDENTS AT THAT LOCATION.
8:49:03PM AGAIN, A DECREASE IN SAFETY.
8:49:05PM WHEN YOU ADD ALL OF THIS UP AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU
8:49:10PM WOULD NEED AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THESE IMPROVEMENTS
8:49:15PM ON THE CONSULTANT'S PROPORTIONATE SHARE CALCULATIONS, IN
8:49:20PM ORDER TO FIT THAT LEFT-TURN LANE GOING ON A NORTHBOUND
8:49:23PM DIRECTION, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO INCREASE OR DECREASE
8:49:27PM -- INCREASE THE ROADWAY PAVEMENT BUT RELOCATE THE CURB,
8:49:30PM DRAINAGE, AND ALL OF THE STREETLIGHT POLES ALONG THAT SIDE,
8:49:35PM THE WATERSIDE OF THE CHANNEL LOOK BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IN
8:49:38PM ORDER TO FIT THAT IN.
8:49:40PM LET ME GO TO OUR SUMMARY AND CONCLUSION.
8:49:43PM EFFORTS TO DEVELOP THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FAILED TO GET PRIOR
8:49:49PM CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR MANY SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTING
8:49:53PM FACTORS RELATED TO TRAFFIC CONDITIONS OUTLINED HEREIN.
8:49:56PM WE RECOGNIZE THIS HEARING IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING
8:50:01PM THAT RELIES ON SUBSTANTIAL CREDIBLE EVIDENCE.
8:50:05PM SIMILARLY IMPORTANT IS THE JUDGMENT USED WHEN APPLYING
8:50:07PM REASONABLENESS.
8:50:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
8:50:10PM >> THANK YOU.
8:50:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
8:50:14PM OUR CLOSER THIS EVENING IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
8:50:18PM BOTH HAVE SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS.
8:50:21PM THAT'S ROUGHLY 20 MORE MINUTES OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT
8:50:25PM WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
8:51:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE.
8:51:04PM COREY DESAI.
8:51:06PM JIM FALCON.
8:51:08PM JENNY FALCON.
8:51:10PM DANIEL LOUIS.
8:51:11PM HOLLY MURPHY, BILL MURPHY, MIKE WALLACE.
8:51:15PM SEVEN NAMES, TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES, PLEASE.
8:51:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
8:51:26PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD.
8:51:27PM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
8:51:31PM I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVEN YEARS.
8:51:34PM YOU ARE MY THIRD CITY COUNCIL.
8:51:36PM THIS IS THE MOST COMPLICATED, CONVOLUTED, CONFUSING REZONING
8:51:41PM I'VE EVER SEEN.
8:51:42PM IT ALSO HAS THE MOST MISTAKES I'VE EVER SEEN.
8:51:45PM I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
8:51:48PM I HAVE SPENT HUNDREDS OF HOURS ON IT.
8:51:51PM I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT WE ARE NOT EXPLAINING EVERY DETAIL
8:51:55PM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT YOUR HEADS TO EXPLODE.
8:51:57PM SO, PLEASE, IF YOU GET CONFUSED, ASK ME QUESTIONS.
8:52:01PM ASK ME NOW.
8:52:02PM CALL ME BACK UP LATER.
8:52:04PM ASK STAFF IF MY ANSWERS ARE CORRECT, WHATEVER, BUT PLEASE
8:52:07PM ASK.
8:52:08PM YOU DENIED ZONINGS FOR ALL TEN OF THESE REASONS.
8:52:11PM NUMBER ONE, PROPERTY OWNERS CAN BLEND DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BUT
8:52:16PM ONLY IF THEY OWN THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
8:52:18PM SECTION 27 AND THE COMP PLAN BOTH REQUIRED UNIFIED CONTROL
8:52:22PM FOR A PD REZONING.
8:52:24PM BY 2014, CRESCENT HAD SOLD BOTH PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.
8:52:30PM THEREFORE, IN 2015, WHEN THEY APPLIED TO CHANGE THE SITE
8:52:33PM PLAN, IT WAS FOR PROPERTY THEY NO LONGER OWNED.
8:52:37PM IT WAS A BLENDING OF PARCELS THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE UNIFIED
8:52:40PM CONTROL OF.
8:52:40PM DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS RUN WITH THE LAND.
8:52:43PM WHEN THEY SOLD IT, THEY SOLD THE RIGHTS TO IT.
8:52:47PM STAFF DIDN'T KNOW THEY NO LONGER HAD UNIFIED CONTROL.
8:52:49PM THEY DON'T DO TITLE SEARCHES.
8:52:52PM IT WAS THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY DURING THE APPLICATION
8:52:55PM PROCESS TO PROVIDE UNIFIED CONTROL OF PROPERTY THEY HAD SOLD
8:52:59PM TO OVER 100 DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
8:53:01PM AND THEY MUST PROVE IT, THEY MUST PROVE THAT, QUOTE, IT
8:53:06PM SOUND SUCCESSORS IN TITLE TO ANY COMMITMENTS MADE WITH
8:53:10PM RESPECT TO THEIR REZONING.
8:53:12PM SOME OF THESE SUCCESSORS AND TITLER ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE
8:53:15PM THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BEING BOUND TO THE COMMITMENTS OF
8:53:18PM THAT REZONING OR RELINQUISHING DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
8:53:22PM IN ADDITION, TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IN THE CITY IS
8:53:24PM VERY LIMITED AND PRIMARILY GRANTED BY THE CITY TO PRESERVE
8:53:28PM HISTORICAL PROPERTIES AND THE CITY MUST HAVE A TRACKING
8:53:30PM SYSTEM.
8:53:30PM CRESCENT SOLD THEIR LAST PIECE 319 BAYSHORE IN DECEMBER
8:53:36PM 2016.
8:53:37PM THEY NO LONGER OWN THIS.
8:53:39PM THE NEW OWNER WAS NOT PART OF THE 2010 PD.
8:53:43PM THEY NEVER HAD UNIFIED CONTROL OF THE 2010 PD.
8:53:46PM THEY NEVER HAD THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE 2010 PD.
8:53:50PM LOOK AT THESE DATES.
8:53:56PM THEY SIMULTANEOUSLY CAME UP -- SORRY, AND THEY KNEW THE
8:54:00PM LIMITATIONS WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT.
8:54:03PM THERE WERE OVERLAPPING APPLICATIONS FOR CHANGES, WHICH I
8:54:05PM BELIEVE IS INAPPROPRIATE.
8:54:06PM LOOK AT THESE DATES, THEY SIMULTANEOUSLY CAME UP WITH
8:54:14PM DIFFERENT SITE PLANS JUST BEFORE THE CLOSING IN DECEMBER OF
8:54:17PM 2016.
8:54:18PM WHY?
8:54:18PM WHY DRAW TWO SITE PLANS AND SUBMIT TWO APPLICATIONS?
8:54:23PM WAS IT BECAUSE THE FIRST ONE ASKED FOR AN INCREASE OF 12
8:54:28PM STORIES ON 122 FEET AND THE SECOND WAS A COMPROMISE, AT TEN
8:54:33PM STORIES?
8:54:34PM IN ACCELA, THERE WERE 41 LETTERS OF OPPOSITION TO THE BIGGER
8:54:41PM ONE.
8:54:42PM IT WAS WITHDRAWN IN JANUARY.
8:54:44PM AND THE COMPROMISE OF 10 STORIES WAS APPROVED.
8:54:47PM WHY IS THIS SIGNIFICANT?
8:54:51PM IN DECEMBER 2016, LIBERTY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY.
8:54:55PM THIS DEED SAYS 11 UNITS.
8:54:57PM FROM OCTOBER THROUGH JANUARY, TWO SITE PLANS AND TWO
8:55:00PM APPLICATIONS WERE SUBMITTED.
8:55:01PM THE BIGGER ONE WAS WITHDRAWN AND THE COMPROMISE WAS
8:55:04PM APPROVED.
8:55:04PM LIBERTY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE BUYING.
8:55:09PM A 98-FOOT BUILDING.
8:55:11PM THE NEIGHBORS KNEW IT; THE CITY KNEW IT; THE COUNTY KNEW IT.
8:55:15PM IT WAS BASED ON GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS.
8:55:15PM AND THE GOVERNMENT PASSED THAT INFORMATION ALONG.
8:55:17PM IS THE CITY TRACKING THIS AS REQUIRED BY THE COMP PLAN?
8:55:19PM DECADES FROM NOW IS THE CITY GOING TO PREVENT DOUBLE DIPPING
8:55:23PM OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS?
8:55:24PM ARE THEY TRACKING PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS?
8:55:26PM EVEN IF YOU BELIEVE THIS ABSURDITY, YOU MUST DENY THIS
8:55:33PM BECAUSE THEIR MATH IS WRONG EVERY SINGLE TIME.
8:55:36PM HERE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT IN TODAY'S
8:55:40PM AGENDA.
8:55:41PM IT'S HARD TO READ BUT THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS.
8:55:43PM SUBTRACT THESE NUMBERS FROM 753 AND IT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY
8:55:46PM 92,000 FOR PHASE THREE.
8:55:49PM AND THEY KNEW THAT BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN HAS THE
8:55:53PM PHASE THREE RESIDENTIAL AS 94,000 SQUARE FEET.
8:55:58PM THE STAFF REPORT ALSO SAYS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS IN THE CBD
8:56:03PM PERIPHERY.
8:56:04PM THAT IS WRONG.
8:56:05PM PHASE THREE AND PART OF PHASE TWO ARE NOT IN IT.
8:56:10PM THE NUMBERS ON EVERY DOCUMENT ARE WRONG.
8:56:13PM FIRST WAS THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
8:56:15PM Z-10 ASKED FOR 490 UNITS.
8:56:18PM THEY SAID THE ENTITLEMENT WAS 73 BUT THEY ONLY PROPOSED 490.
8:56:22PM HERE IS THE CITY STAFF REPORT THAT SAYS 490 FOR Z 10.
8:56:28PM HERE -- THAT IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
8:56:31PM THIS IS THE CITY STAFF THAT SAYS 490.
8:56:33PM BOTH STAFF REPORTS FOR Z 90 SAID -- FOR Z 10 SAID 490.
8:56:40PM HERE IS THE CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE SITE PLAN THAT SAYS 490.
8:56:44PM HERE ARE THE TRANSCRIPTS FROM THE HEARING WHERE THE
8:56:50PM APPLICANT'S PLANNER ETHEL HAMMER SAYS THEY ARE REDUCING THE
8:56:54PM NUMBER OF UNITS TO 490.
8:56:56PM I READ EVERY WORD OF THE TRANSCRIPTS FOR ALL OF THE
8:56:59PM HEARINGS.
8:56:59PM 753 UNITS WAS NOT ASKED FOR OR APPROVED.
8:57:03PM ONLY 490 UNITS WERE APPROVED.
8:57:05PM FIVE YEARS LATER, THEY SAID THEY APPROVED -- THEY HAD
8:57:10PM APPROVAL FOR 753 UNITS AND STAFF DIDN'T CATCH IT.
8:57:13PM BY 2014, FOUR BUILDINGS HAD BEEN BUILT.
8:57:18PM ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.
8:57:20PM 2015 HAS AN APPLICATION BASED ON 3.9 ACRES, AND IT SAYS THAT
8:57:30PM PHASE THREE IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT REMAINS UNDEVELOPED.
8:57:34PM SO THEY ARE TRANSFERRING 160,000 TO PHASE THREE.
8:57:38PM HERE IS THE 3.9 ACRES.
8:57:42PM HERE'S PHASE 3.
8:57:48PM THE ONLY PORTION THAT WAS UNDEVELOPED.
8:57:51PM SO THEY WERE TRANSFERRING 160,000 TO PHASE THREE.
8:57:54PM WHAT ABOUT THIS BUILDING?
8:57:55PM STAFF TOOK THEM AT THEIR WORD AND USED THE TOTAL AND SAID,
8:58:01PM YEAH, 160,000 FOR PHASE THREE.
8:58:04PM THIS MISTAKE WAS CARRIED OVER TO 2017.
8:58:11PM THIS IS THE 2022 APPLICATION.
8:58:16PM IT SAYS PHASE ONE IS 178,000.
8:58:18PM PHASE TWO IS 482,000.
8:58:21PM IT SAYS THAT ADDS UP TO 443,000.
8:58:26PM CALCULATORS SAY IT ADDS UP TO 661,000.
8:58:32PM THE TOTAL SAYS 753,000.
8:58:39PM AND THEY HAVE 309 LEFT.
8:58:42PM CALCULATORS SAY THEY HAVE 91,000 LEFT.
8:58:49PM THEY ADMIT IN THIS APPLICATION THAT IT'S ONLY PART OF PHASE
8:58:53PM TWO, BUT IT'S NOT IN THEIR MATH.
8:58:56PM THIS IS THE ORIGINAL 2010 DATA TABLE FROM THE REZONING.
8:59:02PM IT SAYS THAT RMU 100 ALLOWS SQUARE FOOTAGE OR UNITS.
8:59:10PM RMU 100.
8:59:12PM RMU 100 ALLOWS DENSITY OR SQUARE FOOTAGE, ONE OR THE OTHER.
8:59:18PM THAT'S WHY IT SAYS THAT.
8:59:20PM THERE IS NO SQUARE FOOTAGE OPTION FOR R-83.
8:59:23PM SO IT ONLY SHOWS UNITS, NO SQUARE FOOTAGE.
8:59:27PM BUT IN ADDITION, THEY CALCULATED THE UNITS WRONG.
8:59:31PM R 83 GIVES YOU 75 UNITS PER ACRE BY RIGHT.
8:59:37PM THAT MAKES IT ONLY 135.
8:59:41PM THEN 753,000 SQUARE FOOTAGE APPEARS WITH NO EXPLANATION
8:59:46PM WHERE IT CAME FROM.
8:59:47PM THAT GIVES THEM AN EXTRA 149,000 EXTRA SQUARE FEET FOR NO
8:59:51PM REASON.
8:59:52PM IT LOOKS LIKE THEY TOOK THE 149 UNITS OF R 83 AND MADE UP AN
8:59:57PM EQUATION OF A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND GAVE THEMSELVES THE
9:00:00PM EXTRA SQUARE FOOTAGE.
9:00:01PM THAT IS NOT AN OPTION IN R 83.
9:00:04PM AND THERE IS NO SUCH EQUATION.
9:00:07PM ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:00:09PM THEY KNOW FUTURE LAND USE LIMITATIONS.
9:00:12PM SO THE DENSITY IS WRONG AND THEY GAVE THEMSELVES AN OPTION
9:00:15PM FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT DOES NOT EXIST.
9:00:17PM THIS 149,000 SQUARE FEET WAS A MISTAKE ON THE 2010 SITE PLAN
9:00:20PM THAT NO ONE CAUGHT BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER MENTIONED AT THE
9:00:23PM HEARINGS.
9:00:23PM NO ONE SAW IT.
9:00:24PM NO ONE SPOKE ABOUT IT.
9:00:26PM COUNCIL DIDN'T CONSIDER IT.
9:00:27PM I READ ALL THE TRANSCRIPTS.
9:00:28PM BUT EVEN IF YOU GIVE THEM THAT, THE MATH STILL DOESN'T WORK.
9:00:33PM EVEN AT 753,000, WHEN YOU SUBTRACT WHAT HAS BEEN USED, THEY
9:00:37PM DON'T HAVE 309 LEFT.
9:00:40PM IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, ASK THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.
9:00:43PM HAVE THEY BEEN COLLECTING TAXES ON THIN AIR FOR TEN YEARS?
9:00:47PM THIS IS THE 2022 APPROVAL LETTER FROM THE CITY.
9:00:54PM EVERY DOCUMENT SUBMITTED FOR 15 YEARS HAS BEEN RIDDLED WITH
9:00:58PM MISTAKES.
9:00:59PM IT IS MIND-BOGGLING.
9:01:00PM PLEASE NOTICE THE APPROVALS DON'T SAY THEY HAVE 309 LEFT.
9:01:04PM THEY SAY YOU MUST DEDUCT WHAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND
9:01:08PM CALCULATORS SAY THAT DOESN'T LEAVE 309.
9:01:11PM THERE ARE -- NUMBER FIVE REASON TO DENY THIS, DEVELOPMENT
9:01:14PM STAFF SAYS EVEN IF YOU DO ALL THE REVISIONS IT IS STILL
9:01:19PM INCONSISTENT.
9:01:19PM TRANSPORTATION SAYS IT'S INCONSISTENT.
9:01:21PM PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS IT'S INCONSISTENT.
9:01:22PM THEY WANT A WAIVER FOR LOADING BAYS.
9:01:24PM A WAIVER FOR TRUCKS TO TURN AROUND.
9:01:26PM A WAIVER FOR BUFFERS BECAUSE IT'S TOO BIG.
9:01:29PM IT DOESN'T FIT THE SITE.
9:01:30PM DENY THE WAIVERS, DENY THIS REZONING FOR THESE TEN REASONS.
9:01:34PM THANK YOU.
9:01:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OUR LAST SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR AND
9:01:37PM SHE HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
9:01:39PM FROM THERE WE WILL GO TO REBUTTAL.
9:01:44PM YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
9:02:13PM >> HERE.
9:02:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
9:02:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:02:59PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:03:00PM YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES.
9:03:01PM >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:03:03PM WHEN I WAS IN THE GLASS BUSINESS WORKING FOR MY DAD, HE USED
9:03:07PM TO TELL ME YOU NEED TO KNOW THE ANSWER BEFORE YOU PUT IT IN
9:03:11PM THE CALCULATOR.
9:03:12PM I TAUGHT MATH FOR SIX YEARS.
9:03:16PM CERTIFIED TEACHER FOR 20 YEARS.
9:03:16PM THIS ISN'T THIRD GRADE MATH.
9:03:18PM THIS IS FOURTH GRADE MATH WITH A LITTLE BIT OF FIFTH GRADE.
9:03:20PM GOOD EVENING.
9:03:21PM I GAVE YOU THE POOP-COLORED PAPER BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF
9:03:26PM POOP HERE.
9:03:28PM BUT THE NUMBER ONE THING I GAVE YOU WAS THIS IS THE MEETING
9:03:32PM FROM NOVEMBER THE 14th.
9:03:34PM AND IN THAT MEETING, THE APPLICANT SAID, WE WANT MARCH 13
9:03:39PM AND IT WOULD GIVE US TIME UNTIL JANUARY 15 TO MAKE REVISIONS
9:03:43PM AND ALSO GIVE STAFF THE ABILITY TO REVIEW AGAIN.
9:03:45PM THEY NEVER GAVE THEM ANYTHING.
9:03:48PM AGAIN, THEY NEVER GAVE THEM ANYTHING.
9:03:51PM THEY CAME IN HERE TONIGHT WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF PROMISES.
9:03:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU -- IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IN
9:03:57PM THAT MEETING THEY WERE GIVEN AN EXTRA 180 DAYS BECAUSE THEY
9:04:01PM WERE WAIVING IT, WHATEVER.
9:04:03PM THIS IS MY LITTLE TIME, THIS IS MY WASTE OF TIME AND MY
9:04:06PM DUMPSTER FIRE.
9:04:07PM THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THIS REZONING, NOTICE IT'S GOT 2399 ON
9:04:12PM IT.
9:04:12PM THIS WAS FILED 596 DAYS AGO.
9:04:18PM 596 DAYS.
9:04:20PM WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING?
9:04:21PM YET THERE WAS NO NEW SITE PLAN IN OnBase OR IN ACCELA.
9:04:28PM THE SITE PLAN THAT'S IN ACCELA IS 274 DAYS OLD.
9:04:34PM THE APPLICANT HAS HAD INCONSISTENT REPORT FOR 161 DAYS, YET
9:04:42PM THEY DID NO REVISIONS.
9:04:44PM YOU DO THE MATH.
9:04:45PM THEN, OF COURSE, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A LONG CONTINUANCE
9:04:51PM TO MAKE THE REVISION 119 DAYS AGO.
9:04:55PM YET THEY ARE NOT IN OnBase AND NOT ON ACCELA.
9:04:59PM THEY WANTED TO COME PARADING THROUGH HERE TONIGHT AND
9:05:04PM PLANNING IT IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
9:05:06PM THEY DID NOT MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN UNTIL THE DAY
9:05:09PM THAT THEY WERE DUE.
9:05:10PM THE PLANS WOULD HAVE BEEN DUE ON JANUARY THE 15th.
9:05:13PM THAT'S IN AN E-MAIL FROM MR. DICK -- I DIDN'T MAKE THESE UP.
9:05:21PM I JUST GOOGLED IT.
9:05:23PM BUT HERE'S WHAT IS INTERESTING TO ME.
9:05:25PM IN ACCELA, THE LAST THING IN ACCELA WAS PUT IN THERE IN
9:05:29PM OCTOBER.
9:05:29PM OCTOBER 29.
9:05:30PM THOSE ARE THE CANCELLATIONS AND RESCHEDULING.
9:05:33PM THEY HAVE GIVEN THE CITY OF TAMPA ZERO SINCE THEY ASKED FOR
9:05:39PM THE CONTINUANCE BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO MEET WITH THE
9:05:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BUT YET THEY'VE
9:05:44PM DONE NOTHING, JUST LIKE SOME OF MY STUDENTS DID IN FOURTH
9:05:49PM GRADE.
9:05:50PM SO WE HAD THIS LITTLE THING AND LEFT OFF 177,000 SQUARE
9:05:54PM FEET.
9:05:54PM NOW, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT'S IN ACCELA AND IN OnBase.
9:06:01PM I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THIS AGAIN IN A SECOND.
9:06:03PM BUT IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS CORRECT THE APPROVED
9:06:06PM ENTITLEMENTS TO 753,000 SQUARE FEET FROM 880,000 SQUARE
9:06:12PM FEET.
9:06:13PM WELL, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
9:06:15PM IT SAYS, 880,000 SQUARE FEET.
9:06:19PM BUT YET, HERE WE ARE, 119 DAYS THEY'VE HAD THE STAFF REPORT
9:06:24PM TO FIX THIS AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN FIX THAT LITTLE SIMPLE
9:06:27PM THING.
9:06:28PM THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
9:06:30PM NOW, HERE WE GO AGAIN.
9:06:32PM WE'LL DO SOME FOURTH GRADE MATH.
9:06:34PM THE ENTITLEMENTS PER STAFF, I JUST SHOWED IT TO YOU IN THE
9:06:38PM STAFF REPORT, 753,198 SQUARE FEET.
9:06:42PM PHASE ONE, WHICH IS BAYSHORE ONE, CONSTRUCTED I HAVE TO DO
9:06:47PM THIS TWICE.
9:06:48PM DID IT IN INK.
9:06:49PM SHOULDN'T DO MATH IN INK.
9:06:50PM AFTER THAT ENTITLEMENT THEY ARE DOWN TO 574,000 SQUARE FEET.
9:06:54PM RIGHT?
9:06:54PM THEN PHASE TWO COMES ALONG.
9:06:58PM NOW, PHASE TWO IS SPECIAL.
9:06:59PM IT HAS AN A AND A B OR A NORTH AND A SOUTH, WHATEVER.
9:07:03PM BUT 265, 177, THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO 444,000.
9:07:12PM THIS IS SIMPLE MATH.
9:07:13PM I CAN GET FOURTH GRADERS THROUGH THIS.
9:07:16PM THEY MIGHT STRUGGLE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY NUMBERS.
9:07:19PM BUT THE ENTITLEMENT REMAINING IS 132,151 SQUARE FEET.
9:07:23PM THE SITE PLAN CLAIMS AND STILL CLAIMS BECAUSE NOBODY
9:07:27PM BOTHERED TO TURN ANYTHING IN IN THE LAST 119 DAYS, IT STILL
9:07:32PM CLAIMS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE 309,000 SQUARE FEET.
9:07:37PM THAT'S MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE.
9:07:42PM I'M SORRY, BUT THERE ARE SOME REALLY, REALLY SMART PEOPLE
9:07:45PM WHO HAVE WORKED ON THIS AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT GETS
9:07:48PM IN FRONT OF COUNCIL LOOKING LIKE THIS.
9:07:50PM THEY SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED.
9:07:51PM MORE THAN TWICE WHAT THEY ARE ENTITLED.
9:07:54PM MR. MILLER DID A GREAT JOB COVERING THE MATH AND THAT'S HOW
9:07:57PM WE GOT HERE.
9:07:58PM THE NEXT THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, I OWN MINERAL
9:08:04PM RIGHTS.
9:08:04PM MINERAL RIGHTS ARE KIND OF LIKE SOUP.
9:08:06PM YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.
9:08:08PM YOU HAVE TO HAVE DOCUMENTATION.
9:08:11PM IF YOU WANT TO TRANSFER MINERAL RIGHTS THAT BELONG TO A
9:08:14PM PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHETHER YOU OWN IT OR NOT, IT
9:08:17PM HAS TO BE DONE BY EITHER A QUITCLAIM DEED OR A BILL OF SALE
9:08:22PM JUST LIKE IF YOU BOUGHT AND SOLD A PIECE OF LAND OR A HOUSE.
9:08:25PM WELL, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS, IT CAME TO ME, I
9:08:31PM SAID ARE LAND DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS THE SAME?
9:08:35PM WOW.
9:08:39PM LOOKED IT UP.
9:08:40PM THIS IS FROM HER DOCUMENTS.
9:08:41PM YOU GUYS HAVE A COPY OF THIS IN YOUR HAND.
9:08:45PM THEY PURCHASED IT, LIBERTY GROUP, LIBERTY BAYSHORE HOLDINGS,
9:08:51PM PURCHASED THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IN DECEMBER OF 2016.
9:08:56PM AND AS PART OF THE WARRANTY DEED, WHICH THE ORIGINAL DEED IS
9:08:59PM UNDER THIS, DEBBIE BLEW IT UP SO YOU COULD SEE IT ON THE
9:09:03PM OVERHEAD.
9:09:04PM IT SAYS THEY HAVE 160,000 SQUARE FEET.
9:09:07PM CAN I LIVE WITH A LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM THERE BUT THAT'S
9:09:10PM CERTAINLY NOT 309.
9:09:12PM THAT'S FOR DAMN SURE.
9:09:13PM UNIFIED CONTROL.
9:09:15PM IT SAYS THAT THE APPROVED SITE PLAN WILL BIND THE SUCCESSORS
9:09:21PM IN TITLE.
9:09:23PM I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT SURE SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE TO STICK
9:09:27PM WITH -- THEY KNEW WHAT THEY BOUGHT WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT.
9:09:30PM WAH, WAH, WAH, WAH.
9:09:35PM YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY DIDN'T EVEN DO A GOOD JOB PUTTING
9:09:38PM TOGETHER WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN.
9:09:41PM TONIGHT THEY EXPECT YOU TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT OUR
9:09:42PM EXPERTS, WHO WORK FOR THE CITY, HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN.
9:09:46PM THEY WANT YOU TO APPROVE SOMETHING THESE EXPERTS HAVE NOT
9:09:51PM EVEN SEEN.
9:09:51PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXPERT HAS NOT SEEN THE PLAN THESE
9:09:54PM PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
9:09:57PM THEY HAVE THIS VERY UNUSUAL SITUATION WHERE THEY HAD THE
9:10:00PM STAFF REPORT FOR 119 DAYS AND DID NOTHING BECAUSE THEY WANT
9:10:07PM YOU TO BE INTIMIDATED INTO DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD
9:10:11PM NEVER DO, WHICH IS MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT ALL THE PROPER
9:10:14PM INFORMATION.
9:10:15PM NOW, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THIS IS DEBBIE Z.
9:10:19PM SHE RAN OUT OF TIME.
9:10:20PM NOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND YOU'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT DEBBIE
9:10:24PM Z'S DOCUMENT TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE LEGAL MUMBO JUMBO.
9:10:27PM BUT IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE MR. GARDNER DID THIS DOCUMENT OR
9:10:31PM SOMEBODY WHO WORKS FOR HIM.
9:10:33PM ANYWAY, SUB 17 HAPPENED AFTER THE PROPERTY SOLD.
9:10:38PM YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
9:10:39PM YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND START ALL OVER AGAIN IF YOU HAVE A
9:10:42PM NEW OWNER.
9:10:43PM THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
9:10:44PM I DON'T KNOW.
9:10:45PM DEBBIE Z TOLD ME TO SAY SOMETHING, SO I'M GOING TO.
9:10:50PM OH, LET ME TELL YOU THIS.
9:10:52PM THIS IS REALLY, REALLY STINKIN' IMPORTANT.
9:10:55PM THE APPLICANT GOT UP HERE AND SAID WE'RE SAVING TWO GRAND
9:10:58PM TREES ON THE SITE.
9:10:59PM THEY TRIED TO CUT ONE DOWN ILLEGALLY AFTER THE STORM.
9:11:04PM THEY SENT THE GUYS OVER THERE, THE NEIGHBORS SAID WHAT ARE
9:11:07PM YOU DOING?
9:11:07PM THEY SAID WE'RE CUTTING THE TREE DOWN.
9:11:10PM LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, IF MR. DE CAMPS DIDN'T HAVE
9:11:14PM ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT, I WOULD HAVE BEEN PISSED, MAD
9:11:18PM SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW HEARING ABOUT IT.
9:11:21PM YOU JUDGE.
9:11:22PM I'LL TELL YOU THIS, THEY WEREN'T PROTECTING TWO TREES.
9:11:28PM TPD HAD TO COME OUT AND TELL THEM TO STOP CUTTING THE TREES.
9:11:32PM TPD CAME OUT AFTER THE HURRICANE.
9:11:34PM THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION WITH THE HURRICANE AND
9:11:36PM TRIED TO REMOVE ONE OF THEIR GRAND TREES.
9:11:39PM CUT OFF BRANCHES THAT HAD TO HAVE PERMITS JUST FOR THE
9:11:42PM BRANCHES.
9:11:43PM I'M TELLING YOU I CUSSED OUT SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY BECAUSE
9:11:51PM THEY BROKE A BRANCH OFF OF ONE OF MY TREES THAT WOULD HAVE
9:11:55PM HAD TO BEEN TAKEN OUT WITH A PERMIT.
9:11:57PM I LIT THEM UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE BECAUSE THEY ARE
9:12:00PM IRRESPONSIBLE AND TOOK THAT BRANCH OFF MY TREE.
9:12:03PM I WOULD BE MAD AS HELL.
9:12:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:12:05PM THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:12:14PM WE GO TO REBUTTAL.
9:12:16PM LET'S DO QUESTIONS FIRST SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
9:12:24PM INCLUDE THAT IN THE REBUTTAL.
9:12:26PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
9:12:27PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:12:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT OUR HEAD
9:12:38PM EXPLODING.
9:12:39PM I THINK THAT IS AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT.
9:12:40PM I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MANY FIGURES SINCE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL
9:12:43PM GEOMETRY.
9:12:43PM I THINK WE HAVE TO RESOLVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BROUGHT UP.
9:12:46PM MAYBE I'LL START WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEN I'LL SPEAK TO
9:12:54PM CITY STAFF ABOUT THE SAME QUESTIONS.
9:12:56PM THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL, WHICH I THINK ARE FOUNDATIONAL
9:13:00PM QUESTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE RESOLVED BEFORE WE CAN EVEN MOVE
9:13:04PM FORWARD TO MAKE THIS DETERMINATION.
9:13:05PM ONE OF THEM IS A SINGLE SITE CONTROL AND THE APPLICABLE
9:13:13PM CODE, WAS IT SECTION 27 -- GOSH, I HAVE IT ALL HERE
9:13:19PM SOMEWHERE.
9:13:21PM I'M SURE YOU ARE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
9:13:24PM CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR RESPONSE TO YOUR APPLICANT AND THE
9:13:28PM APPLICABLE CODE THAT REQUIRES SINGLE SITE CONTROL?
9:13:31PM UNIFIED SITE CONTROL?
9:13:34PM >> SURE.
9:13:34PM TWOFOLD.
9:13:35PM ONE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT CRESCENT WAS THE
9:13:39PM MASTER DEVELOPER ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
9:13:41PM THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT HEADY FOR YOU, BUT IN DOING THIS
9:13:47PM FOR 28 YEARS, THIS IS MORE AKIN TO A DRI WHERE YOU HAVE A
9:13:52PM POOL OF ENTITLEMENTS AND UNLESS THERE IS SOME DOCUMENT THAT
9:13:56PM DETERMINES HOW THAT IS DROWN DOWN, THEY ARE ON A FIRST COME,
9:14:00PM FIRST SERVED BASIS.
9:14:01PM AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE.
9:14:03PM SECONDLY, AGAIN, HAVING DONE THIS FOR 28 YEARS, ON NUMEROUS
9:14:07PM OCCASIONS, I'VE HAD PD SITE PLANS WITH MULTIPLE OWNERS
9:14:11PM WITHIN THE SITE PLAN, AND IT HAS NEVER BEEN THE POLICY OF
9:14:14PM THE CITY TO REQUIRE EVERY PROPERTY OWNER TO AGREE TO THAT
9:14:18PM REZONING.
9:14:19PM I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SITUATION NOW.
9:14:21PM WE DID ASK FOR THIS AS AN INDEPENDENT PD, BUT THAT IS TRUE
9:14:26PM TO STATE THAT THE WAY THAT THESE ENTITLEMENTS WERE
9:14:30PM REALLOCATED AND WE GOT TO THE ADDITIONAL NUMBER WAS THROUGH
9:14:33PM THOSE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
9:14:38PM IF WE WERE HOLDING THIS FOR REBUTTAL BUT MR. LOBE IS HERE TO
9:14:42PM TALK ABOUT THOSE AND THE RIGHTS GAINED THROUGH THOSE, BUT
9:14:45PM THAT'S MY RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION THERE.
9:14:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE TRANSFERABLE RIGHTS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
9:14:54PM >> SO I HEARD THAT NUMEROUS TIMES.
9:14:57PM I THINK OUR LAW FIRM IS ACTUALLY THE ON ME LAW FIRM THAT HAS
9:15:00PM USED THE TDR PROVISION IN THE CODE.
9:15:02PM THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE DOING TONIGHT.
9:15:05PM AS MS. WELLS STATED AND WE STATED, WE REALLOCATED AND
9:15:11PM BLENDED ENTITLEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY BUT NEVER DID
9:15:13PM WE USE THE TDR POLICY IN THE CODE AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DID
9:15:17PM AND NOT WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING TO DO.
9:15:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
9:15:23PM CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE DISCREPANCIES IN THE FIGURES? 309,
9:15:38PM 329.
9:15:40PM I'VE HEARD SO MANY FIGURES I CAN'T BOIL DOWN TO IT.
9:15:43PM BUT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE IS DEFINITELY A DISCREPANCY
9:15:46PM FROM YOUR PHASE TWO THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE DATA THAT I'VE
9:15:50PM BEEN SEEING.
9:15:50PM THAT SEEMS SELF-EVIDENT TO ME LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION AS
9:15:54PM PRESENTED BY EVIDENCE TONIGHT.
9:15:56PM CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
9:15:59PM >> YES.
9:15:59PM I'LL DO IT IN AN OVERSIMPLIFIED WAY BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE
9:16:03PM SPREADSHEET AFTER SPREADSHEET AFTER SPREADSHEET AND HAD TO
9:16:07PM PROVE UP WHEN WE GOT THE FIRST TRANCHE, I'LL CALL IT, OF
9:16:11PM ENTITLEMENTS, AS WELL AS THE SECOND.
9:16:13PM BUT I BELIEVE WHAT EVERYBODY, AGAIN, IT IS A SIMPLIFICATION,
9:16:17PM WHAT EVERYBODY IS CONFLATING IS WHEN WE DID PHASE TWO,
9:16:21PM SORRY, WHEN CRESCENT DID PHASE TWO, THERE WAS NO BLENDING
9:16:24PM ALLOWED ON THE SITES.
9:16:26PM SO, YES, WE WERE DRAWING DOWN ENTITLEMENTS.
9:16:30PM THOSE ENTITLEMENTS WERE ONLY NORTH OF THE SOUTHERN PHASE TWO
9:16:35PM BLOCK, BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE UNITS, WE WERE DRAWING DOWN
9:16:38PM UNITS ON A DENSITY BASIS ON THAT SOUTHERN BLOCK.
9:16:43PM SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE MATH GETS DISTORTED IS THEY ARE
9:16:46PM TAKING THE OVERALL POOL AND DRAWING DOWN AND NOT USING WHAT
9:16:49PM WE HAD TO PROVE UP ON A UNIT COUNT ON TWO BAYSHORE SOUTHERN
9:16:57PM BLOCK.
9:16:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW YOU SAID WHAT YOU SAID, BUT CAN YOU
9:17:02PM INTERPRET HOW I'M HEARING THAT?
9:17:04PM IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
9:17:05PM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:17:09PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:17:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING AND OTHER
9:17:15PM NOISES.
9:17:16PM THANK YOU.
9:17:16PM >> THAT MAY BE TRUE.
9:17:17PM I ASSURE YOU THE MATH DOES ACTUALLY WORK.
9:17:20PM I THINK WHAT IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO THAT AND WHAT MR.
9:17:24PM LOBE IS HERE TO SPEAK TO, THERE WERE THREE SUBSTANTIAL
9:17:27PM CHANGE APPROVALS.
9:17:29PM ONE APPROVED THE 140,000 SQUARE FEET.
9:17:31PM THE OTHER APPROVED THE 160 TO GET US TO THE 309.
9:17:35PM I'M USING ROUND NUMBERS.
9:17:36PM BOTH OF THOSE WERE NOTICED.
9:17:38PM THERE WERE APPEAL PERIODS FOR BOTH.
9:17:40PM IT'S DONE.
9:17:41PM IT'S OVER.
9:17:41PM THE MATH IS CORRECT.
9:17:43PM I'M NOT TRYING TO BE COY ABOUT THIS.
9:17:47PM THAT RIGHT TO APPEAL THAT IS OVER.
9:17:49PM THE LAST ONE WAS 2022.
9:17:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN SAY THAT PART.
9:17:53PM THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF MY QUESTION FOR CITY LEGAL STAFF.
9:17:59PM >> THE POINT IS THE APPEAL PERIOD HAS ARRIVED.
9:18:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND.
9:18:04PM I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, KIND OF NOT RELATED.
9:18:07PM JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE WE HAD TESTIMONY FROM CITIZENS
9:18:11PM ABOUT TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, EGRESS AND INGRESS FROM THE
9:18:15PM PROPERTIES.
9:18:16PM THE CONSTRUCTION AT THIS DENSITY, HOW WILL RESIDENTS MOVE
9:18:22PM FROM THE RESIDENT NORTHWARD, TOWARDS DOWNTOWN OR TOWARDS
9:18:28PM PLATT?
9:19:01PM >> DE CAMPS.
9:19:03PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU ASKED HOW THE INGRESS AND EGRESS
9:19:10PM AND HOW RESIDENTS WOULD GO TO THE NORTH.
9:19:15PM I DON'T HAVE A REGIONAL OR MORE MAP HERE THAT I CAN SHOW
9:19:18PM OVERALL.
9:19:19PM I CAN EXPLAIN THE INGRESS AND EGRESS.
9:19:25PM LET ME -- LET ME SPECIFICALLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT
9:19:27PM INGRESS AND EGRESS ON THE SITE AND WHY IT IS WHERE IT IS
9:19:31PM RIGHT NOW.
9:19:31PM ORIGINALLY, WE WANTED TO BE ON VERN STREET.
9:19:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE UNDERSTOOD THAT FROM PREVIOUS
9:19:38PM TESTIMONY.
9:19:39PM >> IT WAS ADAMANT FROM 345 --
9:19:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE UNDERSTOOD THAT FROM PREVIOUS
9:19:44PM TESTIMONY.
9:19:45PM >> WE MOVED IT.
9:19:46PM WE ARE RESTRICTING ACCESS OFF OF VERN.
9:19:57PM >> STEVE HENRY, LINCKS & ASSOCIATES.
9:20:00PM AS INDICATED, THE ACCESS FOR THE PROJECT IS OFF OF BEACH
9:20:05PM PLACE.
9:20:05PM SO YOU'RE ASKING HOW DOES SOMEBODY GET DOWNTOWN?
9:20:08PM THE WAY THEY WOULD COME OUT, IF YOU LOOK, COME OUT BEACH
9:20:12PM PLACE, DOWN BEACH PLACE TO PLANT, AND THEN DOWN PLATT TO
9:20:17PM BAYSHORE AND THEN INTO DOWNTOWN.
9:20:19PM THAT WOULD BE THE WAY THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD GO INTO
9:20:22PM DOWNTOWN.
9:20:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY LEFT TURNS ON
9:20:28PM BAYSHORE?
9:20:29PM >> NO.
9:20:30PM PART OF WHAT WE HAD TO DO, PART OF THE PROCEDURAL MANUAL,
9:20:33PM ANY INTERSECTION THAT HAS MOVEMENT THAT IS LEVEL OF SERVICE
9:20:36PM F OR VC GREATER THAN ONE, MEANING IT IS FAILING, WE HAVE TO
9:20:42PM COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION TO FIX THAT.
9:20:45PM PART OF THEN IS OUR PROPORTIONATE SHARE TO THE CITY.
9:20:50PM NOT THAT WE'LL NECESSARILY DO THE IMPROVEMENT.
9:20:53PM ON VERN STREET HERE, WHICH WE ONLY HAVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS
9:20:56PM NUMBER, TWO CARS IN THE A.M. AND P.M.
9:20:59PM VERY LOW VOLUME, BUT WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT THAT AS A PART
9:21:02PM OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
9:21:03PM WE LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTION AND IT IS DURING THE PEAK
9:21:06PM HOURS BECAUSE OF THE VEHICLES COMING OFF OF DAVIS ISLAND,
9:21:10PM THAT MOVEMENT DOES FAIL.
9:21:12PM SO THE FIX FOR THAT OR A POTENTIAL FIX WAS TO PUT A SIGNAL
9:21:17PM IN.
9:21:18PM ALL WE DID WAS THEN PAID OUR PROPORTIONATE SHARE FOR THE
9:21:22PM IMPROVEMENTS TO DO THAT.
9:21:24PM NOT THAT WE WERE PROPOSING THAT.
9:21:25PM THAT WAS JUST A POTENTIAL FIX FOR THE INTERSECTION.
9:21:28PM AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO ON ALL THE TRAFFIC STUDIES WE LOOK AT
9:21:32PM A POTENTIAL FIX.
9:21:33PM NOT THAT IT NECESSARILY IS GOING TO GET DONE BUT WHAT WOULD
9:21:36PM BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIX IT AND THEN WE HAVE TO PAY OUR
9:21:39PM PROPORTIONATE SHARE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT.
9:21:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU POINT OUT TO COUNCIL WHICH STREETS
9:21:45PM ARE ONE WAY AND WHICH STREETS ARE TWO WAY AND ALSO HOW WIDE
9:21:50PM IS PLANT?
9:21:51PM >> HOW WIDE IS PLANT?
9:21:52PM ONE WAY NORTHBOUND.
9:21:58PM IT'S TWO LANES AS IT GETS UP TO PLATT IT TURNS INTO THREE
9:22:05PM LANES WITH TWO THRU AND ONE RIGHT.
9:22:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERN IS A TWO-WAY STREET BUT WITH TWO
9:22:12PM LANES?
9:22:13PM >> CORRECT, YES.
9:22:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BAYSHORE OUT OF YOUR PROPERTY IS ONE WAY
9:22:18PM SOUTHBOUND.
9:22:18PM >> THERE IS A MEDIAN THERE, CORRECT.
9:22:21PM SO BOTH BEACH PLACE AND VERN ARE RIGHT-IN, RIGHT OUT ACCESS.
9:22:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS PROJECT, YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING
9:22:29PM CHANGING ANY TRAFFIC FLOW OR PATTERNS.
9:22:33PM >> WE ARE NOT.
9:22:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR OUR LEGAL STAFF,
9:22:37PM MS. WELLS.
9:22:38PM REVISITING THE SAME QUESTIONS I JUST ASKED THE APPLICANT
9:22:54PM BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF TESTIMONY ABOUT SITE CONTROL AND
9:22:59PM THE PD HAVING SINGLE CONTROL OVER THESE PROPERTIES.
9:23:04PM I LOOK AT THE CODE AND IT DEFINITELY SEEMS CLEAR THAT THE
9:23:10PM CODE REQUIRES UNIFIED CONTROL TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE'RE
9:23:18PM DOING HERE TONIGHT.
9:23:21PM WHAT IS THE CITY'S OFFICIAL POSITION ON THAT?
9:23:23PM THAT WOULD BE 27-1382-D6.
9:23:24PM >>CATE WELLS: I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR LaCHONE
9:23:26PM DOCK.
9:23:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:23:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:23:40PM UNDER THE CODE, WHEN AN APPLICANT SUBMITS AN APPLICATION, WE
9:23:46PM TYPICALLY LOOK AT WHAT IS THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY AND
9:23:49PM THEN WE ASK FOR AUTHORIZATION FROM THE APPLICANT FROM THE
9:23:54PM OWNERSHIP.
9:23:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE'S NO QUALITY CONTROL OR QUESTIONS TO
9:24:04PM ENSURE THAT INFORMATION IS ACCURATE?
9:24:07PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: TYPICALLY WHAT WE WILL DO IS STAFF REVIEWS
9:24:10PM AND THEY COMPARE IT TO SUN BIZ.
9:24:13PM LOOK AT THE CORPORATIONS.
9:24:14PM MAKE SURE THE CORPORATION IS LISTED OR THE LLC IS AN ACTIVE
9:24:17PM ONE.
9:24:18PM IF THEY ARE NOT, WE HAVE THEM CORRECT THAT.
9:24:21PM THEY HAVE TO BE ACTIVE WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
9:24:24PM WE DO VERIFY THAT WHEN IT'S SUBMITTED.
9:24:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GIVEN THE EVIDENCE PROVIDED TONIGHT THAT
9:24:31PM THERE IS NOT UNIFIED CONTROL OF THE ENTIRE AREA WITHIN THE
9:24:34PM PROPOSED SITE PLAN DISTRICT, WHAT WOULD STAFF'S POSITION BE
9:24:39PM ON THIS TONIGHT KNOWING THERE'S NOT UNIFIED CONTROL?
9:24:43PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
9:24:45PM ONE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE BOUNDARY --
9:24:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE VERY FIRST
9:24:51PM TESTIMONY THAT THIS ENTIRE SITE PHASE ONE, TWO, THREE IS ONE
9:24:56PM PD.
9:24:56PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: IT'S ONE PD, CORRECT.
9:24:58PM BUT THE APPLICANT IS COMING IN WITH PHASE THREE.
9:25:02PM THE APPLICANT DID NOT COME IN WITH THE ENTIRE BOUNDARY.
9:25:07PM LET'S SAY IF THE APPLICANT CAME IN, REQUESTED A PD TO PD AND
9:25:11PM DID THIS WHOLE, AND THIS WAS ALL UNDER CONSIDERATION TODAY,
9:25:15PM WE WOULD NEED AUTHORIZATION FROM ALL OF THE OWNERS.
9:25:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS PART OF WHAT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT.
9:25:21PM THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO
9:25:23PM FIGURE OUT THE NEXUS BETWEEN THE 2010 DECISION AND THIS ONE
9:25:27PM BIG PD VERSUS THE APPLICANT COMING.
9:25:31PM ASKED MS. WELLS EARLY ON THIS EVENING ABOUT THIS PHASE THREE
9:25:36PM PROPERTY.
9:25:37PM IS THIS A SEPARATE PD OR IS THIS A COMBINED OF THE ENTIRE
9:25:40PM PROCESS AND IT WAS PRESENTED AT THE TIME THAT THIS REQUEST
9:25:46PM THIS EVENING WAS PART OF -- IT WAS BASICALLY JUST A CHANGE
9:25:49PM OF THE EXISTING PD CONSISTING OF THIS ENTIRE ZONED PARCEL.
9:25:55PM I WOULD ASSUME THAT PART OF OUR CODE WOULD APPLY, THEY DON'T
9:25:58PM HAVE UNIFIED CONTROL, THAT THIS WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE JUST
9:26:04PM BASED ON THAT ALONE.
9:26:06PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
9:26:10PM JUST TO HELP CLARIFY, SO THE APPLICANT IS IN FOR JUST PHASE
9:26:14PM THREE.
9:26:14PM THAT IS THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES US
9:26:18PM TO, THIS PHASE.
9:26:19PM JUST THIS BLOCK.
9:26:23PM LET'S SAY THIS IS APPROVED AND MOVES FORWARD, THIS WOULD
9:26:26PM CHANGE AND THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE PD, AND THEN THIS WOULD
9:26:30PM BE A PD.
9:26:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET THE RAMIFICATIONS OF AFTER THE
9:26:36PM DECISION IS MADE.
9:26:37PM CLEARLY, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN PROVIDING EVIDENCE ABOUT THE
9:26:43PM TRANSFER OF RIGHTS, THE TRANSFER OF ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE
9:26:46PM ENTIRE PROJECT.
9:26:47PM SO I THINK AT THIS POINT IT WOULD BE IMPLAUSIBLE OR LACK
9:26:53PM INTELLECTUAL HONESTY TO DIVIDE THAT BETWEEN -- DIVIDE THESE
9:26:55PM ISSUES THAT WE'D HAVE TO BE WORKING ON THE 2010 PLAN AND
9:27:04PM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND THEN THAT PROVISION OF
9:27:06PM 27-1382-D6 ABOUT UNIFIED CONTROL WOULD BE AN OVERRIDING
9:27:12PM FACTOR.
9:27:13PM I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
9:27:16PM IF THE APPLICANT JUST CAME IN AND WAS REQUESTING A PD
9:27:21PM EXCLUSIVELY JUST FOR THIS PARCEL AND NOT TYING ANYTHING TO
9:27:25PM THE REST OF THE PARCELS, BUT WHEN THEY BROUGHT THOSE OTHER
9:27:28PM PARCELS IN, PROVE ME WRONG, THAT THERE IS THIS CONNECTION
9:27:33PM THERE.
9:27:36PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: SO WITH THE REQUEST, THE APPLICANT DID NOT
9:27:40PM BRING IN THESE PARCELS.
9:27:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN THEY SAID THEY WERE TRANSFERRING
9:27:45PM THEIR RIGHTS?
9:27:46PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THIS IS WHERE THE ANALYSIS CAME INTO PLAY
9:27:49PM BECAUSE IN THE PAST THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
9:27:52PM REVIEWS AND THAT'S WHEN ENTITLEMENTS FROM THIS PHASES, FROM
9:27:56PM THESE PHASES WERE PLACED ON TO PHASE THREE.
9:28:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: -- IRREVOCABLE.
9:28:05PM THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE EXISTING PD AND THE PROPOSAL THIS
9:28:08PM EVENING HAS BEEN MADE AND PART OF THE PLAN.
9:28:10PM I'M HAVING A HARD TIME.
9:28:15PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WE DIDN'T REQUIRE THEM TO GET THE
9:28:17PM AUTHORIZATION FROM ALL THE OTHER OWNERS WITHIN THIS BOUNDARY
9:28:22PM JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE ALLOWED TO COME IN AND JUST DO THE
9:28:26PM SPACE.
9:28:27PM WE'VE HAD PDAs IN THE PAST THAT HAVE COME IN AND THEY WILL
9:28:32PM REZONE A PARCEL OR FOUR PARCELS WITHIN AN OVERALL AREA.
9:28:37PM SO THIS APPLICANT CAME IN TO REZONE JUST THIS.
9:28:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET IT.
9:28:43PM I GET A LOT OF TIMES THESE QUESTIONS ARE SILENT BECAUSE
9:28:48PM PEOPLE DON'T RAISE THEM.
9:28:52PM TONIGHT IT WAS RAISED AND SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE.
9:28:57PM THE CODE HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
9:28:58PM AGAIN, BLACK AND WHITE TO ME.
9:29:00PM I'M NOT A LAND USE ATTORNEY, BUT I PLAY ONE ON TV ONCE A
9:29:06PM WEEK.
9:29:06PM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:29:06PM IT SEEMS SO SELF-EVIDENT.
9:29:11PM I THINK I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION FOR MS. WELLS AND THEN I'LL
9:29:16PM BE DONE.
9:29:17PM SORRY, GUYS.
9:29:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I TOLD MY WIFE I WOULD BE HOME BY
9:29:24PM TOMORROW MORNING.
9:29:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND YOU CAN CLAIM IT ON ME.
9:29:28PM MS. WELLS, I HAVE A QUESTION, I THINK I ALREADY KNOW THE
9:29:33PM ANSWER TO THIS AND PROBABLY THE APPLICANT IS CORRECT, THAT
9:29:36PM THE REMEDY FOR LIKE 1709 HAS KIND OF COME AND GONE, IS THAT
9:29:43PM CORRECT?
9:29:43PM IF THERE WERE ERRORS IN THIS DOCUMENTATION, APPEALS TIME HAS
9:29:47PM COME AND GONE OR IF, IN FACT, WE FIND THAT THE SQUARE
9:29:51PM FOOTAGES WERE WRONG, WHAT IS THE REMEDY?
9:29:55PM IS THERE A REMEDY?
9:29:57PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:30:00PM ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
9:30:02PM APPLICATION WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE APPROVED IN 2015
9:30:05PM UNDER SUB 15-28, THE ABILITY TO REALLOCATE UNUSED SQUARE
9:30:13PM FOOTAGE WAS ALWAYS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT SHOWED ON
9:30:18PM THE 2010 SITE PLAN FOR PHASE THREE, WHICH MADE REFERENCE TO
9:30:23PM THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING AND THE HEIGHT OF THE
9:30:26PM BUILDING.
9:30:26PM SO WHILE -- SO THE DECISIONS ARE FINAL.
9:30:37PM IT'S NOT APPEALABLE.
9:30:38PM WE DON'T GET TO REVISIT THE NUMBERS IS MY POSITION BECAUSE
9:30:41PM THEY HAVE BEEN PROCESSED.
9:30:43PM IT WAS A NOTICED PROCEDURE.
9:30:47PM I BELIEVE THERE WAS A 2022 APPLICATION FOR SUB CHANGE THAT
9:30:52PM WAS EVENTUALLY WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THERE HAD
9:30:55PM BEEN SOME OPPOSITION BY THE NEIGHBORS.
9:30:58PM THERE WAS ALWAYS THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS WITHIN THE
9:31:00PM NOTICE AREA TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS.
9:31:03PM SEPARATE FROM THE FINALITY OF THOSE DECISIONS, THOSE
9:31:07PM DECISIONS WERE ALWAYS QUANTIFIED BY THE FACT THAT THE 2010
9:31:12PM REZONING LIMITED THE FOOTPRINT AND MASSING OF DEVELOPMENT
9:31:16PM FOR PHASE THREE.
9:31:19PM SO WHILE WE HAD THE CITY APPROVE THE ABILITY TO REALLOCATE
9:31:24PM UNUSED SQUARE FOOTAGE, IT WAS SUBJECT TO THOSE CONDITIONS.
9:31:30PM IN THE LETTER -- WHEN MR. GARDNER SUBMITTED THE REQUEST FOR
9:31:37PM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE APPLICATION FOR THE 2015 ONE, PART OF THE
9:31:41PM QUESTION THAT IS ASKED IN THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE APPLICATION
9:31:44PM IS -- LET ME FIND IT HERE.
9:31:49PM IF THERE IS AN INCREASE OF MORE THAN TWO STORIES, NUMBER OF
9:31:54PM FLOORS OR 24 FEET IN HEIGHT FOR NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, IF
9:31:57PM THE ANSWER IS YES, THEN IT'S CONSIDERED SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
9:32:00PM AND STAFF WOULD NOT HAVE APPROVED IT.
9:32:02PM MR. GARDNER'S RESPONSE WAS, CRESCENT PROPOSES TO BUILD EIGHT
9:32:08PM STORY BUILDING AS PERMITTED UNDER THE EXISTING TWO BAYSHORE
9:32:13PM PD.
9:32:14PM EVEN IN THE APPLICATION REQUESTING THE ABILITY TO REALLOCATE
9:32:17PM UNUSED SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE APPLICANT RECOGNIZED THAT THERE
9:32:20PM WAS A LIMITATION ON THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
9:32:23PM THAT WAS ALSO MENTIONED IN THE 2017 SUB CHANGE APPLICATION.
9:32:29PM STAFF'S APPROVALS ALWAYS MADE REFERENCE TO THOSE CONDITIONS.
9:32:34PM AGAIN, THE ONE FOR 2015, SAME QUESTION.
9:32:42PM IF THERE IS AN INCREASE OF MORE THAN TWO STORIES AND THE
9:32:45PM NUMBER OF FLOORS OR 24 FEET IN HEIGHT OF -- SAYS
9:32:49PM NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS OR.
9:33:00PM MISSING A PAGE.
9:33:01PM BUT THE APPLICANT ALWAYS RECOGNIZED THOSE LIMITATIONS ON THE
9:33:07PM SITE PLAN ITSELF FROM 2010 OR 2011 WHEN IT WAS FINALLY
9:33:11PM APPROVED, THE Z 10 THAT'S BEEN REFERENCED.
9:33:14PM I SEE THE ABILITY TO REALLOCATE THOSE ENTITLEMENTS THAT HAVE
9:33:19PM BEEN APPROVED BY STAFF, HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY.
9:33:23PM IT'S 309,000 PLUS.
9:33:26PM IT'S SUBJECT TO -- IT WAS ALWAYS SUBJECT TO YET ANOTHER
9:33:30PM APPLICATION TO ACTIVATE THOSE ENTITLEMENTS.
9:33:33PM AND I BELIEVE THEY TRIED TO DO THAT THROUGH THE 2022 SUB
9:33:38PM CHANGE APPLICATION WHEN THEY WANTED TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT
9:33:40PM AND THEN WITHDREW IT AND THEN REALIZED THIS IS THE PROCESS
9:33:42PM BY WHICH YOU ACTIVATE THE 309,000 SQUARE FEET -- OF SQUARE
9:33:49PM FOOTAGE ALLOCATED TO PHASE THREE.
9:33:51PM IN THE REZONING, AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF
9:33:54PM TONIGHT'S HEARING, YOU REVIEW THIS AS YOU WOULD WITH ANY
9:33:57PM OTHER REZONING APPLICATION.
9:33:59PM YOU LOOK AT THE CRITERIA IN YOUR CODE.
9:34:01PM YOU LOOK AT THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES IN YOUR
9:34:03PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND YOU DETERMINE WHETHER THE
9:34:06PM APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU SHOULD BE APPROVED BASED ON
9:34:10PM COMPLIANCE WITH THE CRITERIA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
9:34:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:34:15PM IT'S VERY CLEAR.
9:34:16PM I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.
9:34:17PM I'VE GOT ONE LAST QUESTION.
9:34:19PM THAT IS, THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.
9:34:24PM I LIED.
9:34:25PM I MAY HAVE A FOURTH.
9:34:27PM SO BE QUIET.
9:34:28PM THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, HOW DOES THAT TIE INTO WHAT YOU JUST
9:34:33PM SAID?
9:34:34PM WE HAVE 309,329 THAT WE'LL GO WITH BECAUSE THE QUESTION HAS
9:34:38PM BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED.
9:34:41PM THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, HOW DOES THAT TIE INTO WHERE WE ARE
9:34:44PM TONIGHT FOR THE DECISION THAT THIS COUNCIL MAKES ON THIS
9:34:48PM LAND USE WITH THAT 309,329 STICKING WITH THAT BUILDING
9:34:51PM ENVELOPE?
9:34:52PM >>CATE WELLS: I THINK THAT'S PRECISELY THE QUESTION BEFORE
9:34:54PM COUNCIL.
9:34:55PM WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE SCALE AND MASSING FOR THIS SITE
9:34:58PM GIVEN THE ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY USE UP TO 309,000 SQUARE
9:35:03PM FEET OF UNBUILDABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
9:35:06PM WHAT IS THAT APPROPRIATE SCALE?
9:35:07PM I DON'T SEE THIS AS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REALLOCATE THAT
9:35:13PM SQUARE FOOTAGE, SO THE APPROVAL IS AUTOMATIC.
9:35:16PM THAT REALLOCATION OF ENTITLEMENTS WAS NEVER AUTOMATIC IN THE
9:35:21PM 2015 APPLICATION OR THE 2017 APPLICATION.
9:35:25PM IT WAS ALWAYS SUBJECT TO AND THE APPLICANT HIMSELF
9:35:27PM RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS AN EIGHT-STORY LIMITATION ON THE
9:35:30PM ABILITY TO BUILD.
9:35:32PM SO I THINK THE QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY IS WHAT IS THE
9:35:36PM APPROPRIATE -- YOU'VE HEARD FROM STAFF THAT THE SCALE IS NOT
9:35:40PM APPROPRIATE, AND THAT IS AT 27 STORIES.
9:35:42PM THAT IS THE APPLICATION THEY REVIEWED.
9:35:44PM THAT IS THE STAFF REPORT THAT IS BEFORE YOU.
9:35:47PM BUT THAT -- I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE FOR COUNCIL TO
9:35:51PM DETERMINE BASED ON THE DEFINITION OF COMPATIBILITY IN THE
9:35:54PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
9:35:55PM YOU CAN DEVELOP UP TO 309,000 SQUARE FEET, WHAT IS
9:36:01PM APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION?
9:36:02PM IS THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU APPROPRIATE?
9:36:04PM IF COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT IT IS NOT, THEN IT IS UP TO THE
9:36:08PM APPLICANT TO DECIDE HOW MUCH MORE DO THEY WANT TO MODIFY?
9:36:13PM DO THEY WANT TO ASK -- HATE TO SAY THIS -- A CONTINUANCE TO
9:36:17PM LOOK AT THAT?
9:36:18PM I KNOW THAT IT WAS A LITTLE STRANGE TO ME THAT THE APPLICANT
9:36:23PM GOT UP AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE HEARING AND PRESENTED,
9:36:26PM WE'RE GOING WITH 274 FEET WHEN THE APPLICATION HADN'T EVEN
9:36:31PM BEEN PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
9:36:35PM IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE
9:36:37PM YOU THAT WAS NOTICED FOR A MEETING BACK IN AUGUST OF 2024
9:36:41PM AND HAS BEEN CONTINUED AND HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED SINCE THAT
9:36:45PM TIME.
9:36:46PM THANK YOU.
9:36:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT MY
9:36:50PM COLLEAGUE, MR. CLENDENIN BROUGHT UP.
9:36:52PM BEFORE WE WENT TO RECESS, I WROTE ONE THING ON MY NOTE HERE,
9:36:57PM SINCE I WAS HERE IN 2010 AND STARTED THINKING MORE AND MORE
9:37:00PM ABOUT IT.
9:37:01PM THE QUESTION BECOMES IN MY MIND, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN 2010
9:37:04PM GAVE THE TRANSFER OF RIGHTS TO AN EIGHT-STORY BUILDING, AND
9:37:08PM THAT WAS CODIFIED BY THE VOTE BY THE RECORD, AM I CORRECT?
9:37:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, THAT IS CORRECT.
9:37:20PM THE EIGHT STORIES WOULD APPLY TO PHASE THREE.
9:37:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW COULD WE TRANSFER THE SAME RIGHTS TO
9:37:25PM A 27 STORY BUILDING?
9:37:28PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: PART OF WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU IS A
9:37:31PM REPORT AND ANALYSIS.
9:37:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS A QUESTION I ASKED MYSELF JUST
9:37:39PM BEFORE WE WENT ON BREAK.
9:37:41PM MY NEXT QUESTION, HOW MUCH REALLY DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND
9:37:48PM CREDITS DO WE HAVE?
9:37:49PM THERE WERE SO MANY NUMBERS THROWN AROUND THAT I THOUGHT I
9:37:53PM WAS IN YBOR CITY LISTENING TO A GUY PLAYING DRUMS OUTSIDE
9:37:59PM THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT.
9:38:01PM NOTICED I SAID OUTSIDE, NOT INSIDE.
9:38:03PM I DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE AT THE COLUMBIA GETTING MAD AT ME OR
9:38:07PM ANYWHERE ELSE IN YBOR CITY.
9:38:10PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, IT IS 309,329 SQUARE FEET WITHIN 98 --
9:38:18PM WITHIN A 98-FOOT BUILDING HEIGHT.
9:38:24PM ON THE REZONING PLAN, PD PLAN, IT LIMITS THE HEIGHT FOR THAT
9:38:28PM PHASE.
9:38:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THOSE RIGHTS WERE PUT ON THE PERMANENT
9:38:34PM PAPERS, WHAT THE COUNCIL DID IN 2010, SPECIFYING ONLY AN
9:38:39PM EIGHT STORY BUILDING OR ANTICIPATED AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING.
9:38:42PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ANTICIPATED.
9:38:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S ALL I GOT TO ASK.
9:38:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:38:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:38:48PM MS. WELLS.
9:38:59PM I'M SORRY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M BEATING A DEAD HORSE BUT I
9:39:03PM WANT TO REALLY MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.
9:39:05PM SAY WE STARTED FROM SCRATCH WITH THIS SITE PLAN AND THERE'S
9:39:08PM ONLY A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
9:39:10PM ENTIRE SITE PLAN, BACK IN 20 WHATEVER, 10.
9:39:14PM I'M USING NICE ROUND NUMBER.
9:39:16PM 100,000 THEN, FINE.
9:39:18PM YOU BUILD THE FIRST ONE AND IT'S 20,000.
9:39:21PM AND THEN YOU BUILD THE NEXT ONE AND IT'S TEN AND BUILD THE
9:39:25PM NEXT ONE AND IT'S 10.
9:39:27PM YOU STILL HAVE 50,000.
9:39:31PM I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO MAKE AN ANALOGY OUT OF THIS.
9:39:34PM YOU'VE USED MOST OF THE LAND.
9:39:38PM YOU HAVE HALF OF IT LEFT.
9:39:40PM YOU HAVE 50,000 LEFT.
9:39:42PM AND THE NEW PARCEL OR ONE SMALL PIECE OF THE PARCEL LEFT.
9:39:49PM YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO ALLOW TO BUILD ALL OF THAT IN ONE
9:39:56PM SPACE.
9:39:58PM IT'S NOT WORKING AS AN ANALOGY.
9:40:00PM I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT.
9:40:02PM LET ME PULL A MAP AND WE'LL JUST USE THE NUMBERS WE HAVE.
9:40:08PM I'M REALLY TRYING TO FORMULATE THIS QUESTION.
9:40:31PM IF IT WASN'T 309 THAT WERE LEFT, SAY IT WAS 600 THAT WERE
9:40:36PM LEFT, WOULD THEY HAVE THE RIGHT THEN TO ASK FOR A 54-FOOT --
9:40:42PM 54 STORY BUILDING?
9:40:47PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:40:48PM I'M NOT THE PLANNER.
9:40:50PM I'M HOPING THE PLANNERS ARE LISTENING TO THIS IN THE EVENT
9:40:53PM THEY WANT TO ADD TO THAT.
9:40:54PM LEGALLY MY APPROACH WOULD BE ANY REQUEST FOR REDEVELOPMENT
9:40:59PM ON THIS SITE, WHETHER IT IS A 27 STORY BUILDING OR A 50
9:41:03PM STORY BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CRITERIA FOR A
9:41:07PM REZONING IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
9:41:09PM THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE
9:41:13PM PLAN.
9:41:14PM AND I THINK WHAT WE HEARD IN THE STAFF REPORT, THIS ALL
9:41:17PM BOILS DOWN TO AN ISSUE OF COMPATIBILITY, SCALE, AND MASSING.
9:41:22PM THE ABILITY TO REQUEST TO BUILD UP TO THAT AMOUNT IS JUST
9:41:28PM THE ABILITY TO REQUEST.
9:41:29PM IT'S NOT AN ENTITLEMENT.
9:41:32PM THIS COUNCIL STILL GETS TO DECIDE, DOES THIS APPLICATION
9:41:37PM MEET THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE?
9:41:38PM DOES IT COMPLY WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF
9:41:41PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN?
9:41:43PM DOES THAT HELP?
9:41:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I THINK IT DOES.
9:41:48PM BASICALLY WE'RE TREATING THIS LIKE ANY OTHER PD.
9:41:51PM >>CATE WELLS: THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION.
9:41:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M CLEAR NOW.
9:41:55PM THANK YOU.
9:41:55PM I'M SORRY.
9:41:56PM I APOLOGIZE FOR RE-ASKING YOUR QUESTION.
9:42:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S TIME FOR REBUTTAL IF NO ONE HAS ANY
9:42:03PM QUESTIONS.
9:42:03PM MR. GARDNER, IF YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF.
9:42:06PM THERE IS A FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL TIME.
9:42:09PM >> TRUETT GARDNER.
9:42:10PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
9:42:12PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU RAISED FIRST
9:42:15PM BECAUSE I WAS PART OF THE 2010.
9:42:17PM THIS IS JUST THE EXAMPLE OF HOW CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE.
9:42:20PM IN 2010, WHAT WE AGREED TO WAS THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH WAS
9:42:26PM GOING TO BE HIGH-RISE TOWER.
9:42:28PM THIS PARCEL WAS GOING TO BE 98 FEET.
9:42:30PM FAST-FORWARD TO NOW, WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT NORTH PARCEL, WE
9:42:34PM DOWN-ZONED IT TO EIGHT STORIES AND WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR YOU
9:42:38PM TONIGHT IS TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2010
9:42:43PM OF THAT SOUTHERN PARCEL.
9:42:44PM THAT IS THE HEIGHT COMPONENT OF IT.
9:42:46PM THE DENSITY COMPONENT IS WHAT WAS ACHIEVED AND MR. LOBE
9:42:50PM WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS, THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OF THE
9:42:53PM SHIFTING OF THE -- OR REALLOCATING OF THE 309,000 TOTAL
9:42:57PM SQUARE FEET TO THAT PARCEL.
9:42:59PM NEXT AND WE HAVE TO MOVE FAST AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
9:43:07PM ON THAT.
9:43:07PM NEXT, A LOT WAS RAISED ON US BEING DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE WE
9:43:12PM DIDN'T HAVE A NEW SITE PLAN.
9:43:14PM THE ANSWER IS WE THOUGHT WE WERE NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH
9:43:18PM WITH THE FOLKS AT PARK SIDE AND WITH 34537 THE PERSON AT
9:43:22PM PARKSIDE WE WERE NEGOTIATING WITH TURNED OUT TO BE A
9:43:26PM PHANTOM.
9:43:27PM MR. CHEZ WAS HERE TONIGHT.
9:43:28PM HE SAID HE REPRESENTS SPANISH TOWN CREEK.
9:43:31PM WE WERE TOLD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS THAT HE REPRESENTS 345.
9:43:34PM WE WERE CONTINUING TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH WANTING TO
9:43:37PM BRING BACK A CLEAN SITE PLAN.
9:43:39PM IN THE END THE RUG WAS PULLED OUT FROM UNDER US AND TURNED
9:43:43PM OUT WE WERE DEALING WITH A PHANTOM AND SOMEBODY ELSE
9:43:46PM PURPORTING TO REPRESENT SOMEBODY ELSE.
9:43:50PM WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERWHELMING
9:43:52PM MAJORITY OF THE SPEAKERS AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED
9:43:56PM SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF 345
9:44:00PM RESIDENTS.
9:44:01PM CONNECTING DOTS HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING
9:44:04PM THEIR VIEW.
9:44:04PM I'M NOT A LITIGATOR, BUT THE ONE CASE I DO REMEMBER, THE
9:44:09PM EDEN ROCK CASE, WHICH IS CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO LEGAL RIGHT
9:44:12PM TO A VIEW.
9:44:13PM IF YOU WANT A VIEW IN FLORIDA, YOU BUY THE VIEW.
9:44:16PM THEN WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED, IT WAS MENTIONED,
9:44:26PM DOES IT COMPLY?
9:44:28PM IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE HERE AT THIS SITE, WITH THOSE
9:44:33PM ENTITLEMENTS ALREADY IN PLACE, THEN WHERE IS IT APPROPRIATE?
9:44:37PM AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS R 83.
9:44:40PM R 83 MENTIONS HEIGHTS IN THE RANGE OF 24 STORIES.
9:44:43PM MS. WELLS JUST SAID THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD LOOK AT.
9:44:46PM WE'RE PROPOSING 25 STORIES IN THAT RANGE.
9:44:48PM THERE'S BEEN APPROVALS BEFORE, THE RITZ THAT HAD R 50, THAT
9:44:52PM SHOULD BE EIGHT STORIES.
9:44:54PM WE HAD OVER 300.
9:44:55PM I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN, THIS IS THE EXACT
9:44:59PM PLACE WHERE THIS DENSITY SHOULD GO.
9:45:00PM I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT THIS IS, IS THE
9:45:03PM OPPOSITION WANTS TO DENY US SOMETHING THAT THEY ALREADY
9:45:06PM HAVE.
9:45:07PM THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
9:45:10PM WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THINGS OVER -- WE HAVE TWO MINUTES.
9:45:13PM WE BETTER GO TO RICKY.
9:45:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:45:17PM >> RICARDO DE CAMPS, CRESCENT COMMUNITIES.
9:45:19PM MRS. WELLS SAID WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS WHAT IS
9:45:23PM APPROPRIATE HERE.
9:45:24PM I THINK WE HAVE SHOWN AND DEMONSTRATED THAT WE HAVE TRIED
9:45:27PM AND TRIED FOR TWO YEARS TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE
9:45:31PM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP WHO HAS IN ALL REGARDS TOLD US, HEY, YOU
9:45:36PM HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THIS PERSON.
9:45:37PM GUESS WHAT, THIS PERSON IS A PHANTOM.
9:45:40PM THEY DON'T REPRESENT US.
9:45:41PM SO WE'RE NEGOTIATING GOOD FAITH AND TRYING TO MOVE THIS
9:45:44PM ALONG.
9:45:44PM EVERY TIME WE TRY TO GET TO A SOLUTION THAT IS APPROPRIATE
9:45:48PM WHERE WE'VE SHOWN THAT WE'VE MODIFIED OUR PLANS, MODIFIED
9:45:52PM OUR INGRESS, MODIFIED OUR BUILDING ORIENTATION, IT'S, NO,
9:45:57PM YOU HAVE TO BE AT 98 FEET.
9:45:59PM SO WHAT I SAY IS, WHAT IS APPROPRIATE?
9:46:03PM WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS HAVE SAID, HEY, CAN WE
9:46:07PM TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO?
9:46:10PM WE HAVE MOVEMENT.
9:46:11PM WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO MOVE OUR BUILDING OR SHIFT OUR
9:46:14PM BUILDING HEIGHT.
9:46:15PM IT WAS LIKE, NO, WE'LL SEE YOU AT CITY COUNCIL.
9:46:18PM WE WILL NOT CONTINUE ANYMORE.
9:46:20PM THE OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE THAT IS DURING THE
9:46:22PM CONTINUANCES.
9:46:24PM SO THOSE -- I HOPE THAT EXPLAINS THE LAPSE AND THE DELAYS IS
9:46:28PM THE INABILITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH AN ACTUAL
9:46:32PM PERSON.
9:46:34PM NUMBER TWO, NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH.
9:46:37PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE AGAINST US.
9:46:39PM I WOULD LEAVE THIS TO YOU GUYS AND SAY, WE HAVE -- ONE OF
9:46:42PM THE THINGS THAT WE WERE GOING TO PROPOSE IN A CONTINUANCE
9:46:45PM WAS WE WOULD KEEP IT TO THE SAME HEIGHT, THE 272 FEET OF
9:46:50PM HEIGHT THAT THEY HAVE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT IN THAT AREA.
9:46:56PM IN ADDITION, IT ALLOWS US TO BRING RESIDENTIAL RENTAL
9:47:00PM HOUSING TO BAYSHORE WITH A SLEW OF SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS
9:47:03PM TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS NOT JUST TO THE BENEFIT OF 345.
9:47:06PM IT IS A BENEFIT TO THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:47:08PM AND BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP A SITE THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT
9:47:13PM DEVELOPED IN THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
9:47:15PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
9:47:18PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE TRIED TO COMMUNICATE AND COULDN'T
9:47:20PM GET IT WITH THE 345.
9:47:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:47:23PM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:47:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
9:47:26PM MR. GARDNER TALKED ABOUT 24 STORIES IN R 83.
9:47:37PM IS THAT THE MAX THAT'S ALLOWED IN R 83?
9:47:42PM I'M SORRY.
9:47:45PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
9:47:46PM THE VERBIAGE SAYS "TYPICALLY."
9:47:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE'S NO RANGE --
9:47:55PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: TYPICALLY UP TO 24.
9:47:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MAX OF 24.
9:48:00PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: WELL, TYPICALLY.
9:48:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A WAIVER IS REQUESTED.
9:48:11PM IS THE ISSUE ABOUT THE LOADING BERTHS, BUT THEN A PREVIOUSLY
9:48:15PM APPROVED WAIVER OF GOING FROM 5 TO 2 AND NOW A WAIVER GOING
9:48:21PM FROM 3 TO 2.
9:48:22PM WHAT AM I MISSING THERE?
9:48:25PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I BELIEVE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
9:48:28PM THAT WAIVER WOULD BE REMOVED.
9:48:29PM THEY WORKED WITH MOBILITY.
9:48:30PM GIVEN THAT THAT WAIVER WAS PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY, IT'S ALREADY
9:48:35PM GRANTED.
9:48:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DISREGARD THAT.
9:48:40PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: IN THE REVISION SHEET, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF
9:48:42PM THE CHANGES MADE.
9:48:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE TWO
9:48:46PM LOADING BERTHS.
9:48:48PM THANK YOU.
9:48:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
9:48:51PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
9:48:53PM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:48:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:48:56PM AYE.
9:48:57PM COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE?
9:49:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.
9:49:02PM I THINK IT'S NOT A SECRET.
9:49:07PM I'M SURE TO THE DISPLEASURE OF FOLKS THAT I PERSONALLY DON'T
9:49:11PM HAVE AS BIG A PROBLEM WITH HEIGHT.
9:49:13PM I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
9:49:16PM I STILL CONTEND THAT HEIGHT IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING I
9:49:20PM GO INTO.
9:49:21PM THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
9:49:24PM IT'S MOSTLY ABOUT THE MASS AND SCALE OF THE BUILDING AND
9:49:27PM THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER SECONDARY ISSUES.
9:49:30PM IT IS AN EXTREMELY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
9:49:34PM SO I UNDERSTAND THE FLEXIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO GET THE
9:49:39PM RETURN THAT THE INVESTORS ON THIS PROPERTY WANT OUT OF THE
9:49:42PM SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY IS PROBABLY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THAT
9:49:45PM MATH WORK TO THE DEGREE THEY WANT TO BECAUSE AGAIN THE
9:49:48PM FOOTPRINT OF THIS PROPERTY IS SO DARN SMALL.
9:49:50PM THE APPLICANT ITSELF BROUGHT UP ONE BUILDING ON BAYSHORE,
9:49:55PM HYDE PARK HOUSE AND I THINK IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF MASS AND
9:49:58PM SCALE WHERE THEY STAGGERED THAT BUILDING.
9:50:01PM WEDDING CAKE TYPE OF APPROACH FROM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD SO
9:50:05PM YOU'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE OF STORIES IN THE FRONT AND THEN IT
9:50:09PM STAGGERS BACK.
9:50:13PM THE SIDES FACE THE STREET SAME WAY, STACKED UP.
9:50:17PM YOU DON'T HAVE A LARGE SCALE VERTICAL BUILDING JUTTING RIGHT
9:50:20PM FROM THE GROUND AND STRAIGHT UP INTO THE SKY.
9:50:23PM IN THESE NONBUSINESS DISTRICT AREAS.
9:50:28PM I GET THE FACT THAT IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, THAT
9:50:31PM IS AN APPROPRIATE MASS AND SCALE IS TO GO VERTICAL RIGHT
9:50:35PM FROM THE SIDEWALK.
9:50:36PM BUT IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE BRING
9:50:39PM THIS UP ALL THE TIME, BAYSHORE IS ONE OF TAMPA'S CROWN
9:50:43PM JEWELS.
9:50:43PM SO IT IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY.
9:50:45PM WE HAVE SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION AND ARCHITECTURAL
9:50:50PM FEATURES ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
9:50:52PM IT IS A VERY DISTINCTIVE AREA AND VERY UNIQUE.
9:50:55PM I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
9:50:58PM IN ALL OF MY REMARKS I WILL SAY I HAVE NOTHING BUT THE
9:51:01PM GREATEST ADMIRATION FOR CRESCENT AND THE QUALITY OF THE
9:51:05PM BUILDINGS THEY BUILD.
9:51:06PM I THINK THE EXAMPLES THEY BUILD AROUND THE CITY ARE NICE.
9:51:09PM I THINK THE ADJACENT BUILDING IN THEIR PHASE TWO.
9:51:12PM I'M AN ADMIRER OF THAT AND WHAT THEY DID.
9:51:16PM THE WAY YOU'VE GOT THE POOL AND SCALE OF THE BUILDING, IT IS
9:51:19PM A NICE PROJECT.
9:51:20PM PHASE TWO OF THAT PROJECT IS REALLY NICE.
9:51:23PM IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
9:51:25PM I GET HOW YOU ALL CAME INITIALLY BACK IN 2010 WITH THE
9:51:32PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY THINKING IT
9:51:35PM WOULD BE A MUCH BIGGER PROJECT AS YOU GET THE PLAT IN THAT
9:51:40PM VERY BIG INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR AND DO THE STAGGER AND
9:51:43PM DROP-DOWN AND THEN YOU GET INTO 345, I THINK IT CAME UP IN
9:51:47PM EVIDENCE TODAY, A MASSIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY CONSIDERING IT
9:51:50PM IS ONE BUILDING.
9:51:52PM THERE IS A LOT OF GREENSPACE.
9:51:53PM THEY HAVE THE DOG WALK.
9:51:54PM THE BUILDING IS SET BACK FROM BAYSHORE.
9:51:57PM THEY HAVE THE BIG DRIVE PULLING UP TO IT.
9:52:01PM IT DOESN'T COME VERTICAL RIGHT OUT OF THE GROUND.
9:52:03PM IT'S GOT A HUGE GREEN SCAPE BUFFER AROUND IT.
9:52:07PM THE BUILDING ITSELF, ENH.
9:52:11PM BUT IT'S ON A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY.
9:52:13PM AGAIN, YOU GUYS ARE COMING TO THE TABLE WITH A POSTAGE
9:52:17PM STAMP.
9:52:17PM I GET IT.
9:52:18PM THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE OF
9:52:21PM HOW DOES THIS INTERFACE?
9:52:23PM SOMEBODY CAME UP AND TALKED ABOUT THE GARAGES.
9:52:25PM I THINK THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE TO TALK ABOUT ARE
9:52:30PM THE GARAGES AND HOW THEY ARE SCREENED AND THE PRESENCE ON
9:52:36PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND HOW THAT COMES DIRECTLY OUT OF THE
9:52:39PM GROUND.
9:52:39PM FOR THE LIFE OF ME, NO SECRET, I KIND OF LIVE IN THIS
9:52:43PM GENERAL AREA, SO I'M PRETTY EXPOSED AND FAMILIAR WITH THE
9:52:46PM AREA.
9:52:47PM I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT.
9:52:48PM MAYBE THERE IS ONE, BUT I CAN'T THINK OF ONE THAT WE HAVE
9:52:51PM THESE STRUCTURES LIKE THAT AGAIN, COMING STRAIGHT OUT OF THE
9:52:54PM GROUND RIGHT ON TOP OF YOU, ESPECIALLY BAYSHORE BOULEVARD,
9:52:58PM STROLLING BOULEVARD.
9:52:59PM PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, TAMPA CROWN JEWEL.
9:53:01PM WE DO THE GASPARILLA RUN, WE DO PARADES, ALL THE THINGS.
9:53:07PM IT IS A HIGH PROFILE LOCATION FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:53:09PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING BUILT ENVIRONMENT, WHICH
9:53:17PM YOU GUYS BUILT, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT IN THE SCOPE AND THE
9:53:23PM SCALE OF HOW THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN BUILT OUT.
9:53:27PM I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING,
9:53:32PM HAD THIS PROPERTY -- HAD THE PROPERTIES BEEN DEVELOPED THE
9:53:35PM WAY THEY WERE INITIALLY PLANNED, I PROBABLY WOULD BE
9:53:39PM THINKING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
9:53:40PM BUT WE'RE DEALING WITH THE REALITY OF WHAT'S BUILT NEXT
9:53:44PM DOOR, NORTH AND SOUTH, PARCELS ABOVE THAT, ALL THE WAY UP TO
9:53:48PM PLATT AND TRANSITION TO THE BRIDGES, BANK OF TAMPA AS WE GET
9:53:53PM FURTHER SOUTH.
9:53:53PM I REALLY SEE THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, HOW IT DIDN'T
9:53:59PM STAGGER BACK, I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEIGHT
9:54:01PM TONIGHT.
9:54:02PM I THINK WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MASS AND THE SCALE AND
9:54:05PM HOW IT RELATES TO THE ADJOINING BUILT-OUT PROPERTIES AND HOW
9:54:09PM IT'S RELATED TO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD COMING DIRECTLY
9:54:13PM VERTICALLY OUT OF THE GROUND.
9:54:15PM I THINK IF WE KEEP THAT IN MIND, MAYBE WHEN YOU HAVE AN
9:54:18PM OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AT A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER
9:54:20PM I'M HERE OR NOT, I THINK -- OBVIOUSLY THIS PROPERTY WILL GET
9:54:25PM DEVELOPED.
9:54:26PM I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED.
9:54:27PM HOW THAT INTERFACES WITH YOUR ALL PREVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTED
9:54:32PM PROPERTY.
9:54:32PM INTERFACES WITH PROPERTIES SOUTH OF YOU AND HOW IT
9:54:36PM INTERFACES WITH THE CROWN JEWEL WE HAVE OF BAYSHORE
9:54:38PM BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:54:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:54:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:54:42PM I AGREE COMPLETELY.
9:54:43PM TO ME IT IS ABOUT MASS AND SCALE.
9:54:46PM 8 STORIES IS TOO SMALL.
9:54:50PM IT JUST IS IN THIS PARTICULAR PART OF BAYSHORE.
9:54:54PM 27, PROBABLY A LITTLE TOO HIGH.
9:54:56PM LOOKING AT MASSING AND SCALE OF THE BLOCK AND THE AREA, I
9:54:59PM WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING BETWEEN 16 AND 20.
9:55:04PM THAT SEEMS REASONABLE.
9:55:07PM BUT, AGAIN, I KIND OF AGREE, LET'S NOT TALK HEIGHT -- OR
9:55:12PM STORIES BUT MASS AND SCALE.
9:55:13PM AND YOU DON'T WANT SUPER TALL NEXT TO SUPER SHORT.
9:55:18PM THAT IS A NICE BREAKDOWN.
9:55:20PM I THINK COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN EVEN SAID IT NICER WHEN WE'RE
9:55:23PM TALKING ABOUT EVEN BUILDING OUT IN BACK AND FRONT.
9:55:27PM I DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT AS OFTEN BUT AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES
9:55:31PM THERE, I CAN SEE THAT.
9:55:32PM THE OTHER PART THAT CONCERNED ME IS I FEEL -- YOU WERE
9:55:38PM TRYING TO REALLY APPEAL TO BOTH SIDES AND KIND OF TALKING
9:55:42PM OUT BOTH SIDES OF THE MOUTH IN TERMS OF PARKING.
9:55:45PM MEANING, WE WANT TO OVER-PARK THIS, BUT WE ALSO WANT PEOPLE
9:55:48PM TO BE RENTING AND WALKING ACROSS TO TAMPA GENERAL.
9:55:51PM YOU GOT TO CHOOSE ONE THING AND JUST GO WITH IT AND HOLD
9:55:58PM YOUR GROUND.
9:55:59PM THE REASON I THINK IT WOULD NOT BE SUCCESSFUL EVEN HERE NOW,
9:56:02PM IF IT WAS BUILT AS IT WAS, IS BECAUSE THE SIZE OF YOUR
9:56:05PM PARKING OR YOUR BIKE STORAGE IS BARELY THE SIZE OF ONE
9:56:10PM PARKING SPACE.
9:56:11PM I'M A BIKE PARKING PERSON, BUT IF YOU LIVE THERE, IF I LIVED
9:56:17PM IN THIS BUILDING -- AND I WORKED AT TAMPA GENERAL, I WOULD
9:56:21PM 100% GET AN E-BIKE, PARK IT THERE, SECURE STORAGE.
9:56:26PM YOU NEED TO TRIPLE THAT.
9:56:27PM EVEN IF YOU DON'T WORK AT TAMPA GENERAL, YOU CAN HOP ON THAT
9:56:31PM TO GET TO AMALIE ARENA.
9:56:32PM THEY WILL BIKE VALET PARK YOUR BIKE FOR FREE.
9:56:36PM YOU'VE GOT TO INCORPORATE WHERE YOU ARE.
9:56:39PM THIS IS NOT A NO FOR ME.
9:56:40PM THIS IS A BRING BACK SOMETHING BETTER.
9:56:44PM THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT A NO.
9:56:46PM I REALLY THINK YOU ARE IN THE AREA YOU NEED TO BE.
9:56:51PM I JUST THINK -- OH, AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL.
9:56:55PM LOVE THE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE
9:56:57PM WANT.
9:56:58PM COMMERCIAL.
9:56:58PM I UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS, AND I WISH WE COULD
9:57:06PM GO BACK AND CHANGE WHAT SITE PLANS WERE APPROVED.
9:57:11PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE WILL NOT WIN THAT BATTLE.
9:57:13PM I AGREE WITH YOU.
9:57:14PM IT'S WRONG, BUT THOSE HAVE BEEN APPROVED, MISTAKES AND ALL.
9:57:22PM ALL WE CAN DO IS MOVE FORWARD.
9:57:25PM I BELIEVE MS. WELLS WHEN SHE SAYS LOOK AT THIS AS A PLANNED
9:57:30PM DEVELOPMENT.
9:57:30PM I WOULD HAVE ALMOST PREFERRED IF YOU HAD COME TO US WITH A
9:57:34PM COMPLETELY BRAND-NEW PROJECT WITHOUT ANY SORT OF ENTITLEMENT
9:57:38PM AND JUST SAID, HEY, WHAT CAN WE BUILD HERE?
9:57:41PM BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY -- I THINK THIS COULD BE A
9:57:46PM REALLY, REALLY GORGEOUS CROWN JEWEL OF BAYSHORE.
9:57:50PM I REALLY DO.
9:57:51PM I BELIEVE THIS COULD BE REALLY LOVELY.
9:57:54PM I'M ABSOLUTELY NOT IN FAVOR OF 8 STORIES HERE BECAUSE OF THE
9:57:59PM TALL TOWER TO THE SOUTH.
9:58:00PM IT STILL LOOKS WEIRD.
9:58:03PM BUT I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE COMING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING
9:58:06PM THAT'S MORE MEET IN THE MIDDLE.
9:58:10PM THAT'S MY SUGGESTION.
9:58:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:58:12PM SIR.
9:58:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THE PROJECT IS
9:58:16PM VERY WELL INTENDED.
9:58:18PM THE DEVELOPER, I WAS HERE WHEN THEY DID THE ONE TO THE NORTH
9:58:22PM OF IT.
9:58:23PM IT WAS NEVER A PROBLEM.
9:58:25PM NEVER RECEIVED ANY PROBLEMS FROM THEM.
9:58:29PM AND WHEN 345 CAME ON, THAT WAS ANOTHER THING.
9:58:32PM BEAUTIFUL, DONE VERY WELL FOR EVERYBODY.
9:58:34PM BUT I STILL -- THE DENSITY IS TOO HIGH FOR THE SIZE OF THE
9:58:42PM PROPERTY.
9:58:43PM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
9:58:44PM NUMBER TWO, IT'S STILL IN MY MIND, FROM BEING HERE IN 2010,
9:58:49PM THAT THE INTENT WAS NO DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS WENT ONLY TO THE
9:58:54PM HEIGHT OF THE 8th FLOOR OF THE BUILDING TO WHATEVER IT IS
9:59:00PM ON THE EAST SIDE, WHICH IS R 35.
9:59:03PM THE HIGHER LAND USE LOCATED TO THE NORTH SIDE IS WHAT IT IS
9:59:06PM THERE NOW.
9:59:07PM IT DEVELOPED BEAUTIFUL.
9:59:08PM DID A GREAT JOB THERE AND ANOTHER PROJECT I KNOW CRESCENT,
9:59:13PM NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT OF CRESCENT.
9:59:14PM NEVER ONE.
9:59:15PM BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH FOR TOO LITTLE SPACE.
9:59:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:59:22PM ANYBODY ELSE?
9:59:24PM IF NOT, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.
9:59:27PM IS THERE A MOTION?
9:59:30PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:59:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK I'M GOING TO PASS ON THE MOTION.
9:59:37PM THIS IS VERY INTERESTING WHEN IT COMES TO SOUTH TAMPA.
9:59:43PM YOU ALL DEFINITELY KNOW HOW TO FIGHT WHEN STAFF AND PLANNING
9:59:46PM COMMISSION SAYS IT'S CONSISTENT AND DON'T NEED WAIVERS, THIS
9:59:51PM BOARD WILL VOTE IT DOWN.
9:59:53PM NOW, THIS ONE IS INCONSISTENT AND ACROSS THE BOARD IT HAS
9:59:56PM WAIVERS AND THERE ARE PEOPLE UP HERE SAYING, HEY, I WOULD
10:00:00PM SUPPORT IT.
10:00:01PM IT'S VERY CONFUSING, PARTICULARLY WITH SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE
10:00:05PM YOU ALL SAY NO TO ALMOST EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WANTS TO BE
10:00:09PM BUILT, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I'M FINDING.
10:00:15PM FOR ME, I'LL PASS MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE WAIVERS.
10:00:18PM I'LL PASS.
10:00:19PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:00:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:00:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO GIVE A RATIONALE FOR MY VOTE.
10:00:26PM FOR ME, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON TALKED ABOUT THE FINDINGS OF
10:00:31PM PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF.
10:00:33PM I ALWAYS PAY A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DEFERENCE TO THAT.
10:00:37PM NOT EXCLUSIVE PRESUMPTIVE DEFERENCE BUT SOME REASONABLE
10:00:41PM LEVEL OF DEFERENCE.
10:00:42PM I LOOK AT THINGS THROUGH MY OWN LENS.
10:00:45PM FOR ME, BEING CONSISTENT IS SOMETHING I VALUE.
10:00:48PM I DO.
10:00:48PM I REALLY, REALLY DO.
10:00:49PM THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF UNPOPULAR VOTES I'VE TAKEN ON
10:00:53PM THINGS, WE HAVE A CLEAN PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT, WE HAVE
10:00:56PM A CLEAN CITY STAFF REPORT.
10:00:58PM NO WAIVERS AND SO FORTH AND I GO, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST
10:01:03PM A DENIAL BECAUSE OF THAT.
10:01:05PM THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE OPPOSITE.
10:01:07PM FOR ME, AND, BY THE WAY, I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY
10:01:11PM OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
10:01:14PM FOR ME I LOOK AT THIS AS A MATTER OF CONSISTENCY AND FOR ME
10:01:17PM CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY CONSISTENT WITH MY PRIOR VOTES IN
10:01:20PM VOTING TO OPPOSE THIS.
10:01:22PM SOMETHING COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID I THINK IS VERY, VERY
10:01:27PM TRUE, THIS IS SOMETHING ON A BUILD BACK BETTER, WHATEVER YOU
10:01:30PM WANT TO CALL IT IN TERMS OF COMING BACK.
10:01:34PM BECAUSE THE 330 FEET IN HEIGHT VERSUS 270 FEET IN HEIGHT,
10:01:38PM FIRST WHEN I HEARD THAT, WELL, MAYBE THE REPORTS WOULD HAVE
10:01:41PM BEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH THAT.
10:01:43PM UPON HEARING FURTHER TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE, I DON'T KNOW IF
10:01:47PM BECAUSE OF THE MASS AND SCALE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT.
10:01:50PM BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.
10:01:51PM JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE MAYBE FOR NEXT TIME.
10:01:54PM AGAIN, EXPLAIN MY VOTE.
10:01:56PM I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN EXPLAINING MY VOTE.
10:01:58PM I LIKE TO BE CONSISTENT IN THE WAY I APPLY THINGS.
10:02:02PM SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.
10:02:04PM NOT POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY.
10:02:06PM FOR ME THAT'S SOMETHING I TRY TO DO ALWAYS.
10:02:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO GET ANY SUPPORT,
10:02:12PM BUT I'M GOING TO THROW IT OUT ANYWAY.
10:02:15PM I WON'T GET ANY SUPPORT IN THE CROWD.
10:02:16PM I KNOW THIS.
10:02:17PM IS THERE ANY -- ANY -- ANY INTEREST IN A CONTINUANCE?
10:02:24PM >> NO.
10:02:24PM >> NO.
10:02:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXCUSE ME.
10:02:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M ASKING MY COUNCIL MEMBERS --
10:02:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ASKED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
10:02:31PM I ASKED THE ATTORNEY TO COME UP.
10:02:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE
10:02:36PM I THINK SOMETHING COULD COME BACK.
10:02:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE --
10:02:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I JUST WANTED
10:02:48PM TO SAY BRINGING THAT UP TOOK A LOT OF WHAT OUR JEWISH
10:02:53PM BROTHERS AND SISTERS SAY, CHUTZPAH.
10:02:55PM I MEAN THAT.
10:02:57PM WHEN THAT CAME UP IN THE BEGINNING, I HAD MY THOUGHTS ON
10:03:00PM THAT.
10:03:02PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS AN UNREASONABLE QUESTION TO ASK.
10:03:05PM I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
10:03:05PM I'LL VOTE NO ON THIS TONIGHT BUT I WOULD SUPPORT A
10:03:10PM CONTINUANCE BECAUSE IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING.
10:03:12PM YOU WOULD HAVE MY SUPPORT WITH THAT SHOULD YOU WISH TO MAKE
10:03:14PM THE MOTION.
10:03:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.
10:03:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WOULD -- OF THE RULES BY A
10:03:26PM SUPERMAJORITY, FIVE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:03:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T HAVE THOSE VOTES.
10:03:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO READ THE RULE.
10:03:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
10:03:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU DO THAT JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE
10:03:46PM RECORD, I WANT COUNCIL AND PUBLIC TO KNOW I HAVE PROVIDED
10:03:50PM YOU AS I HAVE PREVIOUSLY, THE PD CRITERIA 27-136, THE
10:03:55PM PURPOSE AND THE CODE CRITERIA FOR 27-139 AS TO THE WAIVERS
10:04:01PM WHICH ARE ALSO BEING CONSIDERED.
10:04:03PM AGAIN, COUNCIL, YOU BASE YOUR DECISION ON COMPETENT,
10:04:07PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD, STAFF REPORT, PLANNING
10:04:09PM COMMISSION REPORTS, THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'VE HEARD.
10:04:12PM I SUGGEST THAT YOU CITE THE PROVISIONS AS YOU SEE THEY ARE
10:04:18PM NUMBERED AND AS THEY APPLY AND IF YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT YOU
10:04:21PM WANT TO HAVE IN EVIDENCE IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN ADDITION,
10:04:24PM TO WHAT'S TAKEN PLACE OVER THE FEW HOURS, BUT MORE
10:04:27PM SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU APPLY THE FACTS TO THE CODE WHEN YOU
10:04:30PM MAKE YOUR DECISION.
10:04:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:33PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:04:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS ALMOST GOING TO ASK FOR A 15-MINUTE
10:04:40PM RECESS TO GATHER OUR THOUGHTS.
10:04:42PM MAYBE WITH THE HELP OF OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FILLING IN THE
10:04:44PM BLANKS, WE CAN KNOCK THIS OUT.
10:04:46PM AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY -- I CONCUR WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:04:53PM I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES HERE BUT THIS JUST ISN'T IT.
10:04:57PM IT IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR.
10:04:58PM THANKS TO THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH TAMPA.
10:05:05PM I HAVE WAY TOO MANY PIECES OF PAPER IN FRONT OF ME.
10:05:09PM I'M GOING TO MOVE TO DENY FILE REZ 23-99 BASED ON THE
10:05:16PM COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE WE'VE HEARD THIS EVENING,
10:05:19PM PERTAINING TO THE MASS AND SCALE OF THIS PROPOSED
10:05:23PM DEVELOPMENT ON WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS PHASE THREE OF
10:05:28PM THIS PD PROJECT.
10:05:30PM I CONCUR WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S FINDING THAT IT DID
10:05:35PM NOT PROVIDE A TRANSITION IN DENSITY ON THE PARCEL WHICH WAS
10:05:39PM FURTHEST FROM DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THE HIGHER DENSITY LAND USE
10:05:43PM POLICIES IN ONE, TWO, THREE, 922, 938, AND ANY POLICY 139.
10:05:49PM AGAIN, JUST AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THAT THE TRANSITION
10:05:56PM FROM WHAT HAS BEEN ACTUALLY DEVELOPED IN THE FIRST TWO
10:06:01PM PHASES, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DEVELOP TO THE SAME DENSITY,
10:06:04PM WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A TRANSITION.
10:06:06PM THEY ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT DOWN, DOWN, AND THEN GOING
10:06:09PM BACK UP.
10:06:09PM SO THE TRANSITION IN THAT WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
10:06:12PM LAND USE POLICY, DOES NOT EXIST IN THE PROPOSAL FOR THE
10:06:16PM DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.
10:06:18PM I ALSO FIND THAT THIS PROPOSAL AS PRESENTED TO US THIS
10:06:24PM EVENING DOES NOT PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE
10:06:28PM OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF
10:06:31PM POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING IMPACTED
10:06:35PM NEIGHBORHOODS AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.
10:06:36PM THAT'S FROM SECTION 23-136.
10:06:38PM I FIND THAT, AGAIN, THE MASS AND THE SCALE AND THE IMPACT
10:06:43PM THIS HAS ON THAT PARTICULAR VERY SMALL PARCEL WITH THE
10:06:47PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN COMING STRAIGHT VERTICALLY FROM THE
10:06:51PM GROUND, IT DOES NOT MEET THAT REQUIREMENT OF GUARDING
10:06:57PM AGAINST THE ADVERSE IMPACTS OF THE SURROUNDING IMPACTED
10:07:01PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:07:01PM I ALSO FIND THAT AS PRESENTED THIS EVENING THAT THIS DOES
10:07:05PM NOT ALLOW THE INTEGRATION OF DIFFERENT LAND USE AND
10:07:08PM DENSITIES AND ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE
10:07:11PM ALLOWED UNDER GENERAL ZONING DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED IN THIS
10:07:13PM CHAPTER WHICH ENCOURAGE COMPATIBILITY AND OVERALL SITE
10:07:17PM DESIGN AND SCALE BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL TO THE PROJECT
10:07:20PM SITE.
10:07:20PM I BELIEVE THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES.
10:07:22PM AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT MASS AND SCALE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT
10:07:27PM THIS DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE OVERALL SITE DESIGN.
10:07:31PM AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 27-1362
10:07:37PM WHICH IS WHAT I JUST READ.
10:07:38PM ALSO ACCORDANCE WITH 27-136 DOES NOT PROMOTE OR ENCOURAGE
10:07:44PM DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATE LOCATION, CHARACTER, COMPATIBILITY
10:07:47PM WITH SURROUNDED IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS, BUILT ENVIRONMENT
10:07:50PM AND EXISTING GEOGRAPHY.
10:07:52PM I THINK, AGAIN, REPEATING THE EXACT SAME THING, SCOPE AND
10:07:55PM MASS, SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE PROJECT ON THE VERY TINY PIECE
10:07:58PM OF PROPERTY AND WITHOUT ANY KIND OF STAGGER, WITHOUT ANY
10:08:01PM SETBACKS COMING VERTICALLY RIGHT FROM THE GROUND.
10:08:04PM I ALSO IDENTIFIED LAND USE POLICY 122 -- NO.
10:08:11PM I'M SORRY.
10:08:12PM 211, SAME REASON THAT THE PROPOSED 27 STORIES WOULD BE OUT
10:08:18PM OF SCALE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THAT'S
10:08:21PM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:08:22PM THAT'S ALL I HAD.
10:08:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
10:08:24PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:08:26PM LET'S GET A ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:08:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:08:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:08:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:08:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:08:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:08:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:08:41PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
10:08:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING?
10:08:45PM NO.
10:08:47PM ALL RIGHT.
10:08:48PM PREEMPTIVE DON'T CLAP.
10:08:56PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, NEW BUSINESS?
10:08:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR.
10:08:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:09:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY QUICK.
10:09:02PM I WANTED TO TELL COUNCIL ON SATURDAY I'LL BE GIVING TO THE
10:09:06PM INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD --
10:09:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE LEAVE QUIETLY.
10:09:10PM WE'RE STILL IN THE MEETING.
10:09:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST SATURDAY, AGAIN, YOU ALL GOT A MEMO.
10:09:20PM I WANTED TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO THE HAITIAN AMERICAN
10:09:26PM CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, PRIDE MONTH.
10:09:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
10:09:35PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:09:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:09:37PM AYE.
10:09:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO DO A LETTER.
10:09:42PM S.W.F.W.M.D., THEY DEAL WITH CONTROLLED BURNS.
10:09:44PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN NEW TAMPA WHERE
10:09:47PM THEY APPARENTLY DID A BURN AT FLAT WOODS PARK AND -- I DON'T
10:09:55PM WANT TO SAY WENT OUT OF CONTROL BUT REALLY, REALLY BAD IN
10:09:58PM PARTS OF HUNTER'S GREEN.
10:10:00PM I REACHED OUT TO PASCO COUNTY AND SO FORTH.
10:10:02PM I WANT TO BE EMPOWERED TO WRITE A LETTER ON BEHALF OF CITY
10:10:05PM COUNCIL TO THEM ASKING THAT WHENEVER THEY DO THIS -- I KNOW
10:10:09PM THERE IS A WEBSITE WHERE INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS CAN GO AND ASK
10:10:12PM FOR A NOTICE AND SO FORTH, THAT THEY WOULD AT LEAST CITY
10:10:16PM COUNCIL, MAYOR, AND COUNTY COMMISSION KNOW OF THIS SO THAT
10:10:19PM WE CAN AT LEAST TELL THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW.
10:10:23PM IT GOT INTO MY HOUSE.
10:10:25PM I WOKE UP AT 3 A.M. AND THOUGHT MY HOUSE WAS ON FIRE.
10:10:29PM KIND OF FUNNY.
10:10:29PM THAT'S ALL.
10:10:30PM IF YOU NEED ME TO RETURN THE LETTER FOR APPROVAL --
10:10:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:10:34PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:10:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:10:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:10:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS ONE THAT'S GOING TO SHOW OUR
10:10:49PM SOCIAL ACTION DOLLARS WORKING.
10:10:50PM I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
10:10:52PM I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE ON-SITE COMMENDATION ON MAY 15,
10:10:55PM 2025, AT OUR REGULAR SESSION TO SLIGH MIDDLE MAGNET SCHOOL
10:11:00PM ROBOTICS CLUB FOR BEING PRESENTED WITH SPORTSMANSHIP AWARD
10:11:04PM DURING THEIR COMPETITION.
10:11:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:11:07PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:11:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:11:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:11:11PM I ALSO MOVE THAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP DRAFT DESIGN
10:11:14PM STANDARDS AND DRAFT AN ORDINANCE FOR A LARGE FORMAT DIGITAL
10:11:18PM SIGN MEDIA FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND PRESENT THE
10:11:21PM DRAFTS AT THE MAY 22nd WORKSHOP.
10:11:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:11:26PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:11:26PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:11:36PM PLEASE SAY THAT AGAIN.
10:11:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW WHAT I SECONDED.
10:11:38PM REPEAT IT.
10:11:42PM LONG WEEK.
10:11:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE THAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP DRAFT
10:11:46PM DESIGN STANDARDS AND DRAFT AN ORDINANCE FOR LARGE FORMAT
10:11:51PM DIGITAL MEDIA FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND PRESENT
10:11:55PM THE DRAFTS AT THE MAY 22nd, 2025 WORKSHOP.
10:12:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION.
10:12:06PM MY QUESTION, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
10:12:08PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:09PM I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS WITH THE IDEA --
10:12:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S JUST A DRAFT.
10:12:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: HAVE WE SPOKEN TO THEM?
10:12:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OF COURSE.
10:12:22PM I WOULDN'T MAKE IT --
10:12:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: BUT, AGAIN, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ON
10:12:30PM THIS WHOLE ISSUE, WHICH IS I TAKE A LOOK AT THE SIGN ISSUE
10:12:35PM AND KIND OF WHERE IT WENT LAST MEETING, AND I THINK THAT WE
10:12:38PM NEED TO HAVE SIDES TALK, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DE-ESCALATION
10:12:43PM ON THIS.
10:12:44PM I'LL SUPPORT THIS AND MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE I DO WANT TO
10:12:46PM HAVE SOMETHING WORK.
10:12:48PM I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOU BUT I ENCOURAGE ALL THE
10:12:53PM PARTIES TO COME FORWARD BECAUSE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS,
10:12:56PM GOING TO ONE EXTREME WHILE HAVING ESCALATING RHETORIC, I
10:13:01PM DON'T WANT THAT ON THIS ISSUE.
10:13:02PM IT'S NOT SUCH A CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE THAT WE NEED CONTINUING
10:13:06PM ESCALATING RHETORIC.
10:13:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AGREE.
10:13:09PM STAFF INITIALLY WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE THEY PROVIDED US A
10:13:15PM MEMO INDICATING THEY DO NOT SUPPORT DIGITAL SIGN MEDIA.
10:13:19PM THAT WAS NOT THE MOTION.
10:13:20PM THAT WASTED A LOT OF TIME.
10:13:22PM WE CAME UP WITH THE NEXT INDICATION FOR THEM TO BRING
10:13:25PM SOMETHING BACK, AND IT WAS EXTREMELY RESTRICTIVE, VERY
10:13:28PM LIMITED, AND THEN THE THIRD TIME THEY WAS LIKE, WELL, LET'S
10:13:32PM GET CRA TO PAY FOR IT AND THEY WERE VERY VAGUE ABOUT
10:13:37PM GATEWAYS AND THEY USED CITIES THAT DID NOT NECESSARILY
10:13:42PM RELATE TO TAMPA IN TERMS OF DIGITAL SIGN MEDIA, DENVER BEING
10:13:52PM UNLIMITED AND ATLANTA DOUBLE THE SIZE.
10:13:55PM THERE WERE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR LOCAL NEWSPAPER AND
10:14:00PM WHAT HAVE YOU.
10:14:02PM YEAH, THERE ARE SOME KEY INDICATORS THAT THERE IS PUSH-BACK,
10:14:07PM BUT IT IS OUR JOB.
10:14:11PM WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS JUST A DRAFT.
10:14:13PM IT'S A WORKSHOP.
10:14:14PM IT REQUIRES OUR INPUT, OUR INTAKE TO RECEIVE THIS
10:14:18PM INFORMATION.
10:14:18PM IT PROVIDES THE PARTNERSHIP TO WORK NOT JUST IN ISOLATION
10:14:23PM WITH PARTNERS, WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
10:14:25PM I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
10:14:29PM I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE STRAZ.
10:14:30PM I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE ART MUSEUM, OF THE FLORIDA
10:14:33PM AQUARIUM, OF VISIT TAMPA BAY.
10:14:35PM AND I ALSO RECENTLY CONFIRMED THE SUPPORT OF SBP.
10:14:41PM IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE DOING THIS IN ISOLATION.
10:14:44PM I WANT IT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT.
10:14:46PM IT WILL PERMIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:14:47PM IT WILL GET THE BALL ROLLING.
10:14:49PM THE ONE THING CITY STAFF WAS VERY CLEAR ABOUT IS THEY WANTED
10:14:53PM TO USE PUBLIC DOLLARS AND CRA DOLLARS AND PUSH IT EVEN
10:14:58PM FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD BY FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, AND THAT WAS
10:15:01PM UNACCEPTABLE.
10:15:03PM I HAD TO GET TO WORK.
10:15:04PM THIS IS WHAT I'VE COME UP WITH, ASKING FOR A DRAFT.
10:15:07PM I STARTED IT LAST WEEK.
10:15:10PM THIS SHOULD NOT BE A SURPRISE.
10:15:14PM I ASKED COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE THE SALARY TO -- THAT
10:15:20PM WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:15:21PM SO IT SHOULD NOT BE A SURPRISE TO YOU.
10:15:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SUPPORT THIS UNDER MY INTERPRETATION OF
10:15:29PM FEASIBILITY I GUESS IF YOU WILL.
10:15:31PM ONE THING, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL DO THIS, WHICH IS MAKE SURE
10:15:34PM TO ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND
10:15:38PM FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE.
10:15:40PM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND OBVIOUSLY
10:15:42PM DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AS WELL AS RESIDENTS, THAT HE VERY, VERY
10:15:45PM IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME GOOD
10:15:48PM COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND EVERYTHING.
10:15:50PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING
10:15:55PM DONE AS A MEANS OF BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE.
10:15:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ABSOLUTELY.
10:15:59PM BECAUSE THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE COMES NEXT.
10:16:03PM IT'S NOT JUST THEM.
10:16:06PM THAT THOUGHT IS FOLLOWED WITH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND NOT JUST
10:16:10PM ONE TIME BUT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THEN THE PLANNING
10:16:14PM COMMISSION HAS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
10:16:19PM THIS IS JUST THE START.
10:16:21PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
10:16:22PM WE'RE AT THE END OF THE ROAD HERE, AND THIS IS JUST A DRAFT
10:16:29PM AND IT'S JUST GETTING US STARTED.
10:16:32PM I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF INPUT AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT
10:16:39PM IT IS GETTING THE BALL ROLLING.
10:16:40PM ONE THING IS CLEAR IS THAT THE STAFF COULD ACTUALLY WRITE
10:16:45PM THESE DESIGN AMENDMENTS BUT THEY HAVE REFUSED TO DO THAT.
10:16:49PM SO THIS IS THE OPTION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US.
10:16:53PM AND THAT IS A FACT WE CAN'T DANCE AROUND.
10:16:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: TO FINISH UP, IF I MAY, AGAIN, I SEE THIS,
10:17:01PM THANK YOU, AS A FEASIBILITY TYPE OF AN ISSUE.
10:17:05PM LIKE I SAID ON DE-ESCALATION --
10:17:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH, BABY, GO AHEAD.
10:17:13PM I'M SORRY.
10:17:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: LIKE I SAID, I HOPE THIS CAN BE USED AS A
10:17:17PM MEANS TO PUT A COUPLE OF ICE CUBES IN THE CAPPUCCINO, SO TO
10:17:23PM SPEAK.
10:17:24PM A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE TO COME TO THE TABLE.
10:17:26PM SOMETHING I WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF.
10:17:29PM WANTED TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS AND INTERPRETATION.
10:17:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T VOTE FOR THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO
10:17:35PM VOTE AGAINST AT THE END.
10:17:36PM I'M SAYING TO MYSELF, SAYING TO THE PUBLIC, I REMEMBER WHEN
10:17:42PM WE WENT THROUGH SIGN PROBLEMS AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNS.
10:17:45PM I UNDERSTAND THAT ON THE EXPRESSWAY.
10:17:47PM WENT A YEAR OR TWO HAD TO TAKE DOWN FOUR OR FIVE SIGNS, ONE
10:17:52PM DIGITAL SIGN TO CLEAN UP WHAT WE HAD --
10:17:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVEN'T UPDATED THE SIGN CODE -- 16
10:18:01PM YEARS, THE SIGN CODE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED.
10:18:03PM ANOTHER REASON TO GET STARTED.
10:18:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BUT PROVIDE
10:18:08PM CLARIFICATION.
10:18:09PM AGAIN, NO SURPRISES.
10:18:10PM I DO NOT SUPPORT, IF WE MOVE ON THIS ISSUE, I DO NOT SUPPORT
10:18:15PM THE CONCEPT OF GIVING WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER INHERENTLY
10:18:20PM GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS TO THE PARTNERSHIP OF LIKE MANAGING
10:18:23PM THIS PROCESS IN THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS.
10:18:26PM I DON'T SUPPORT THAT.
10:18:28PM I DIDN'T WANT ANY SURPRISES IF THIS MOVES FORWARD.
10:18:30PM I THINK THOSE FUNCTIONS ARE INHERENTLY GOVERNMENT.
10:18:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I READ EXACTLY THE VERBIAGE FROM THE
10:18:38PM STAFF?
10:18:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT
10:18:41PM DISCUSSION NOW.
10:18:44PM I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE A SURPRISE IF I OBJECT SOMEWHERE DOWN
10:18:47PM THE LINE.
10:18:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:18:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:18:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:18:55PM >> AYE.
10:19:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIVE YESES AND A NO.
10:19:08PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO -- SORRY,
10:19:13PM MIRANDA VOTING NO AND CARLSON ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:19:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:18PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:19:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE NOTHING.
10:19:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:19:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEAR WITH ME.
10:19:22PM I'VE ALREADY WRITTEN THIS DOWN.
10:19:24PM I'VE ALREADY WRITTEN THIS, LADIES, DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
10:19:30PM IT.
10:19:30PM I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.
10:19:32PM I HAVE A MOTION COMING FORWARD ON APRIL 3rd, 2025, THAT
10:19:36PM STATES MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE A REPORT ON DETAILING
10:19:39PM PERSONNEL THIRD PARTY MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AND EQUIPMENT
10:19:41PM PAID FOR BY THE STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
10:19:44PM I WANT TO ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THAT.
10:19:47PM TO THE PRIOR MOTION, I MOVE TO SCHEDULE THE NEXT IN-PERSON
10:19:51PM MONTHLY STORMWATER MAINTENANCE REPORT TO BE PRESENTED ON
10:19:55PM APRIL 3rd WITH THIS.
10:19:57PM ADDITIONALLY, I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF ANSWER THE FOLLOWING
10:20:00PM QUESTIONS.
10:20:00PM WHICH WOULD ASSIST THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT FACILITIES
10:20:03PM MORE?
10:20:04PM ADDITIONAL FTEs OR ADDITIONAL CONTRACTOR ASSISTANCE?
10:20:07PM TWO, WHICH IS MORE COST-EFFECTIVE FOR PARADE ROUTE BARRIER
10:20:12PM SETUP AND REMOVAL?
10:20:13PM STORMWATER TRANSPORTATION STAFF OR CONTRACTORS?
10:20:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, GOOD.
10:20:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
10:20:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
10:20:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:20:22PM AYE.
10:20:23PM I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
10:20:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'VE GOT TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT STORMWATER.
10:20:27PM AND THEN, MULTIPLE NEWS SITES REPORTED YESTERDAY THAT U.S.
10:20:33PM DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY SEAN DUFFY HAS
10:20:36PM ORDERED OFFICIALS TO STOP ACTION ON ALL BIDEN-ERA
10:20:40PM DISCRETIONARY GRANTS TO BUILD BIKE LANES.
10:20:43PM A MEMO STATED THAT D.O.T. HEADS ARE BEING ASKED TO UNDERTAKE
10:20:46PM A PROJECT BY PROJECT REVIEW TO IDENTIFY PROPOSALS WHOSE
10:20:50PM PRIMARY PURPOSE IS BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:20:52PM PROJECT TEAMS WILL CONDUCT A REVIEW TO FLAG ANY PROJECTS FOR
10:20:55PM POTENTIAL REMOVAL IF THE PROJECTS INVOLVE EQUITY ANALYSIS,
10:20:59PM GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE AND/OR EV
10:21:03PM CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:21:04PM SO IN 2020, THE CITY OF TAMPA RECEIVED NOTICE OF $24 MILLION
10:21:10PM AWARD FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION UNDER THE
10:21:13PM BUILDING BETTER UTILIZING INVESTMENT TO LEVERAGE DEVELOPMENT
10:21:16PM BUILD GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE WEST RIVER DISTRICT MULTIMODAL
10:21:19PM NETWORK AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS BUILD SEGMENTS ONE THROUGH
10:21:23PM SIX MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT.
10:21:26PM BASED ON THIS INFORMATION I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF APPEAR IN
10:21:29PM PERSON APRIL 17, 2025, TO ANSWER THREE QUESTIONS REGARDING
10:21:33PM THE WEST RIVER DISTRICT MULTIMODAL NETWORK AND SAFETY
10:21:36PM IMPROVEMENTS BUILD SEGMENTS ONE THROUGH SIX PROJECT.
10:21:39PM IF THE BUILD GRANT IS CANCELED, ONE, WHAT OTHER FUNDING
10:21:43PM SOURCES COULD BE PURSUED TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT AS
10:21:46PM DESIGNED?
10:21:47PM TWO, WHAT SCOPE REDUCTION WOULD NEED TO BE MADE TO
10:21:50PM COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS OF $24 MILLION BUILD GRANT?
10:21:52PM THREE, TO DATE, WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT HAS BEEN SPENT
10:21:56PM ON THIS PROJECT?
10:21:57PM THIS IS NOT TO CANCEL THE PROJECT.
10:22:00PM THIS IS TO REALISTICALLY SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE LOSE
10:22:04PM THIS MONEY.
10:22:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SECOND IT.
10:22:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S ALL I WANT.
10:22:08PM THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED, BUT I'M TERRIFIED.
10:22:12PM WE DON'T GOT 24 MILLION.
10:22:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WE PUBLICLY SHOW ALL OF OUR CARDS.
10:22:16PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:22:20PM BY MIRANDA.
10:22:24PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR?
10:22:28PM AYE.
10:22:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:22:29PM YES, MR. SHELBY.
10:22:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS
10:22:40PM IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
10:22:41PM THOSE PEOPLE WHO ENJOY COMING DOWN TO CITY COUNCIL EACH
10:22:45PM THURSDAY, COUNCIL IS NOT MEETING NEXT WEEK, MARCH 20th.
10:22:49PM IT IS THE SPRING BREAK RECESS OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:22:52PM YOUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS ON MARCH 27.
10:22:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:23:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:23:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ASKED ME THAT SATURDAY FOR
10:23:08PM YOUR STAFF, 5621 HARNEY ROAD, IVW.
10:23:13PM LET ME KNOW.
10:23:14PM BRANDON MAY BE OUT.
10:23:15PM WHO IS PLANNING TO COME?
10:23:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALREADY TOLD BRENNAN.
10:23:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCIL
10:23:23PM MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:23:25PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:23:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:23:28PM AYE.
10:23:28PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
10:23:29PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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