TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MARCH 27, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:00:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD MORNING.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
AT THIS TIME FOR INVOCATION, WE'LL JUST HAVE A MOMENT OF
SILENCE.
PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN KEEP STANDING
FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[MOMENT OF SILENCE]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
ALL RIGHT.
MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD TAKE A ROLL CALL.
9:01:43AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:01:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:01:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:01:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
9:01:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:01:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.

9:01:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:01:50AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:01:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE RULES AND PROCEDURES
OF PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:01:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I'D LIKE TO GO OVER BRIEFLY THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR THE
CONDUCT OF TODAY'S MEETING.
AS YOU SAW OUTSIDE, THERE ARE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER
CARDS.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA OR OTHERWISE
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER
CARD AND PLACE IT IN THE BOX, ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WOULD BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME BY
THE CHAIR TO APPROACH AND SPEAK.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
IF YOU ARE HERE ON AN ITEM THAT IS SET ON THE AGENDA FOR A
PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WHEN
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CALLED.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE USE THE

SIGN-UP SHEET THAT IS ON THE PODIUM OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
NOW, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE
OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS
ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL
ACTION ON THE ITEM.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE KINDLY REMINDED TO
REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR
THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES,
SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS
AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR ANY OTHER MEMBER
OF THE PUBLIC.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES MAY BE RULED OUT OF
ORDER BY THE CHAIR AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING
THE SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE
AWARE THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.

THANK YOU.
9:04:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM MARCH 6, 2025
AND THE EVENING SESSION OF MARCH 13, 2025?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
I'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS.
A MEMO WAS RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA REQUESTING
THAT ITEM NUMBER 97 BE HEARD FIRST AFTER LUNCH AND FURTHER
REQUESTING THAT THE BOONSTOPPEL FAMILY HAVE A CHANCE TO
SPEAK AFTER STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
IS THERE A MOTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30 TO RESCHEDULE 90 DUE TO A
MISNOTICE.
WE'LL DO THAT AT 1:30.
FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, WHIT REMER WILL SAY GOOD-BYE
AND INTRODUCE US TO KAYLA CASELLI AS THE INTERIM.
I'M GLAD WHIT IS COMING BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS

ABOUT THE SOLAR PROGRAM ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
GLAD HE'S COMING.
THAT'S MY OWN THING.
MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA REQUESTING TO INQUIRE OF
THE ADMINISTRATION ANY POTENTIAL LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES
PREVENTING DISTRIBUTION OF THE BUNKER GEAR AND A TIMELINE.
COUNCILMAN VIERA WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE HEARD UNDER THE
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT, CHIEF BENNETT?
9:05:16AM >> I AM.
9:05:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE THAT.
ITEM 96, COUNCILMAN VIERA IS GOING TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
LET'S DO THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
ITEM NUMBER 96 WE'LL DO THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
ITEM 98, MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA CONTINUING THIS
ITEM TO A FUTURE DATE.
WE'LL DO THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
MEMO 102 CHIEF BERCAW TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM MAY 15 WITH THE
FY '25 MIDYEAR REPORT.
WE'LL DO THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE ITEM 103 AND 104, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, DID YOU
WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 103?
9:05:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, YES.
THESE I ACTUALLY HAD MOVED -- I REQUESTED TO HAVE MOVED TO
APRIL 3rd.

SO THIS IS VERY CONFUSING, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THERE ARE
FOUR ISSUES ALL PUT TOGETHER.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I WANT TO DO IS TO KILL AN OLD
MOTION, E-2016-8 CHAPTER 21 WHICH REQUESTED AN IN-PERSON
QUARTERLY STORMWATER REPORT BECAUSE NOW WE'RE DOING THEM
MONTHLY.
I WOULD LIKE TO RESCIND THAT QUARTERLY.
9:06:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT THE COHEN MOTION?
9:06:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, FROM LITERALLY 2016.
9:06:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THOSE WERE THE DAYS.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
9:06:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN, SO THE -- THIS WAS AN ADMINISTRATION,
IN-PERSON QUARTERLY REPORT PROVIDING AN UPDATE.
THAT'S GONE.
103 IS NOW GONE BECAUSE WE AREN'T DOING THAT ANYMORE.
9:06:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE 103.
9:06:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.
9:06:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PERMANENT REMOVAL.
9:06:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, YES.
9:06:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
CHIEF BENNETT, I SAW YOU MOVE THERE.

9:07:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I STILL HAVE MORE TO GO.
9:07:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:07:04AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF AND GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
I WAS INFORMED BY MS. DUNCAN'S OFFICE THAT THEY WANTED TO
DISCUSS THE REPORTING SEQUENCE FOR THESE.
I JUST ASK IF COUNCIL COULD WORK WITH HER OFFICE.
THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY.
I'M JUST NOT AWARE.
9:07:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE.
THANK YOU.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
9:07:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
9:07:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THEN LOOKING AT 104, SO THIS WAS THE
MONTHLY IN-PERSON REPORT.
I HAD SAID THAT WE COULD MOVE THIS TO APRIL 3rd.
I DID THIS AT THE LAST MEETING IN THE EVENING.
THIS WAS AFTER ALL THAT STUFF.
I'M NOT SURE WHY IT'S ON THIS AGENDA BECAUSE I ASKED FOR IT
TO BE MOVED TO APRIL 3rd. THIS NEEDS TO MOVE TO APRIL
3rd.
NOW, THEIR REQUEST IS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MAY 22 TO A
WORKSHOP.

THE BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A RULE
THAT SAYS YOU CAN ONLY HAVE FIVE ITEMS IN A WORKSHOP.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 6.
SO WE CAN'T MOVE IT TO MAY.
AND THEN THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE IS AUGUST, WHICH IS FAR
INTO THE HURRICANE SEASON.
ACTUALLY, WHAT MY GOAL IS, THIS IS NOT REALLY A WORKSHOP
ISSUE.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE MONTHLY IN-PERSON REPORT TO CONTINUE
TO APRIL 3rd, WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE, AND WE NEED TO HAVE
THEM MONTHLY BECAUSE THE CITIZENS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
STORMWATER RIGHT NOW.
MAY IS TOO LATE.
AUGUST IS TOO LATE.
WE ASKED FOR THIS TO BE MONTHLY.
IT SHOULD BE MONTHLY.
9:08:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DID YOU CHECK WITH THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT
--
9:08:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
THEY WANT TO MOVE TO MAY 22.
9:08:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT ABOUT MAY 1?
THERE IS A REGULAR MEETING.
9:08:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, THIS IS A MONTHLY REPORT.
SO IT SHOULD BE MONTHLY.
THE NEXT ONE SHOULD BE APRIL 3rd.

MONTHLY.
9:08:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN WE WAIT UNTIL WE SPEAK WITH THEM?
IT PROBABLY WILL COME AFTER LUNCH.
9:08:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
9:08:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL HOLD 104 FOR NOW UNTIL WE SPEAK TO
THE DEPARTMENT.
9:09:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOWEVER, ALL --
9:09:07AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:09:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APOLOGIZE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY -- 104 -- SEE, THIS IS WHY THIS IS
CONFUSING.
104 IS A ONE-TIME AND THAT IS THE -- YEAH, LET'S WAIT
UNTIL --
9:09:33AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:09:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APOLOGIZE.
THIS IS THE ONE-TIME STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
THIS IS NOT THE IN-PERSON MONTHLY REPORT.
WE ASKED FOR IT ONCE.
I'M WILLING TO HAVE IT MOVED TO MAY 1st.
THIS ONE-TIME REPORT BE MOVED TO MAY 1st.
9:09:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL CONTINUE ITEM 104 TO MAY 1st.
9:09:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:09:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU CHECKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND
THEY'LL WORK WITH YOU?
OKAY.

9:09:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY JUST SAID MAY 22.
THEY WERE VERY INSISTENT.
IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE THAT, THEY CAN COME TO ME.
I THINK MAY 1st IS CLOSE TO MAY 22.
9:10:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET CONFIRMATION
FROM THEM?
LET'S HOLD THIS UNTIL AFTER LUNCH TO BE SAFE.
9:10:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I REQUEST THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT AFTER
LUNCH.
AFTER THE BOONSTOPPEL.
9:10:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S FAIR.
THAT GIVES US ENOUGH TIME.
ITEM 104 STANDS UNTIL WE GET FURTHER CLARIFICATION.
ITEMS 105 AND 106 ARE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS TO RECEIVE AND
FILE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
I HAVE 93, 94, 95, WE'LL TAKE THAT AFTER CONSENT AGENDA.
9:10:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD YOU INQUIRE IF COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED
STAFF PRESENT.
9:10:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, WE'LL HAVE 93, 4,
AND 5, DO YOU NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR THOSE?

IF NOT, WE'LL TAKE THEM AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA.
9:11:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE THE AFTERNOON.
9:11:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY?
WE'LL TAKE THAT AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA.
LET ME GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS REAL QUICK.
9:11:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU DON'T WANT 95?
9:11:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU WANT THEM HERE IN PERSON FOR 95,
SIR?
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
9:11:33AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DIDN'T BECAUSE WE ARE DEALING ADMINISTRATION
UPDATE.
TO NOT BE REDUNDANT, UNLESS COUNCIL THINKS OTHERWISE.
9:11:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ARE YOU GOING TO HOLD 95 TILL AFTER THE
ADMINISTRATION UPDATE?
9:11:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE SMART.
9:11:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL TAKE THAT UP AFTER THE CONSENT
AGENDA.
OTHER ITEMS, 95 WE'LL HOLD.
96 WILL BE RECEIVE AND FILE.
NUMBER 97, THERE IS A PowerPoint PRESENTATION.
WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT.
ITEM 98, COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL CONTINUE TO A FUTURE DATE.
TALK ABOUT THAT AT THAT TIME.
NUMBER 99, THAT IS A YES.
WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF E-MAILS ON THOSE, ON 99.

WE HAVE AN IN-PERSON REPORT ON 100.
101 IS A YES.
I'LL BE TAKING UP THAT DISCUSSION.
ITEM 102, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT A CONTINUANCE.
ITEM 103 WE ALREADY DISCUSSED.
104.
SO IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE
THE AGENDA AND MEMORANDUM?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND A SECOND
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA
PRESENTING TO MR. RON ROTELLA.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER RUDY
FERNANDEZ IS HERE, SERVED IN THE '90s.
JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE, SIR.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:13:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
ALL OF YOU STARTING WITH CHAIRMAN GUIDO AND THE OTHER SIX
THAT SERVE WITH US -- OTHER FIVE THAT SERVE WITH US ANYWAY,
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES IN HISTORY THAT YOU SAY, WHAT AM I
GOING TO SAY?
AT THIS TIME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY THAT.
HERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WORKED FOR HOW MANY MAYORS?

SEVEN.
I NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE WORKING FOR SEVEN DIFFERENT MAYORS.
IT STARTED BACK WHEN?
1965.
YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE 50 YEARS OLD.
FROM 1965 TO NOW, THAT'S 70 YEARS WHEN YOU COUNT 25 AND 35.
UNBELIEVABLE.
WHEN HE WORKED FOR THE CITY, WHEN HE STARTED, LET ME GIVE
YOU A LITTLE EXAMPLE WHAT IT WAS LIKE 70 YEARS AGO.
606 PEOPLE LIVING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
YOU REMEMBER THAT.
600 WERE IN JAIL AND THE OTHER 6 WERE LOOKING TO GET IN WHEN
THE FIRST 6 WERE DISMISSED.
THERE WAS NOTHING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA TO SPEAK OF.
I'M NOT TRYING TO DOWNPLAY OUR CITY.
YOU CAN -- PARKING GARAGE, NOT LOOK RIGHT OR LEFT, NO CARS
COMING.
RON ROTELLA'S HOPE AND THE MAYORS HE WORKED WITH ALL SEVEN,
THESE THINGS STARTED TO CHANGE.
IN DOING THAT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO
DO, MAINTAIN WHAT YOU HAVE AND THEN WORK ON THE CHANGE ALL
AT THE SAME TIME.
ROTELLA AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS, SEVEN MAYORS WORKED WITH,
ALONG WITH I THINK AT THAT TIME WHEN I CAME IN -- NORIEGA.
NORIEGA WAS DEVELOPMENT.

IF IT WASN'T FOR INDIVIDUALS LIKE RON ROTELLA WHO HAD A
VISION AND THE MAYORS HE WORKED WITH, LAST WAS MAYOR GRECO,
I BELIEVE, THESE THINGS WOULDN'T HAPPEN.
THE STREETCAR IS ONE OF THEM.
AND THE EXPANSION OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE CITY, THE
CHANGING OF THE OPERATION OF WE CAN'T DO IT TO WE CAN DO IT
AND WE WILL DO IT.
THE THINGS THAT MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA TODAY WHAT IT IS.
GOING BACK IN HISTORY, SOMETIMES WE DON'T REMEMBER
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE IT HAPPENED SO QUICKLY.
70 YEARS IS A LONG TIME IN THE CALENDAR.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TURNING A CITY AROUND AND THEY DID IT IN A
LONG, LONG TIME AGO WHEN IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT, THERE WAS NO
MONEY TO SPEAK OF.
HAD TO GET GRANTS TO HIRE POLICE OFFICERS.
HIRED 103 POLICE OFFICERS SOMETIME IN THE MID '90s WITH NO
MONEY.
FEDERAL GRANTS GAVE US MONEY FOR THOSE OFFICERS AS YOU WELL
REMEMBER TO HIRE THEM FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN WE HAD TO
PICK UP THE SALARIES UNDER THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION.
IN FACT, MAYOR GRECO CALLED ME LATE LAST NIGHT SOMETIME
AFTER 11 TO TELL ME HE COULDN'T BE HERE BECAUSE ONE OF THE
PUPPY DOGS HE HAD TO TAKE TO THE VET.
HE THOUGHT HE WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.
HE TOLD ME TO EXPRESS MY APOLOGIES TO ROTELLA AND HIS

FAMILY.
RON, IF I MAY READ THIS.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE AND EVERYTHING YOU
CONTINUE TO DO.
IT IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PROFOUND PLEASURE TO RECOGNIZE THE
ACCOMPLISHMENT OF RON ROTELLA KNOWN AS THE GO-TO GUY IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS.
BEGAN HIS SERVICE UNDER MAYOR DICK GRECO IN 1966 AND ENDED
IN 1983 SERVING FOR MAYOR BOB MARTINEZ, RON HONED HIS SKILLS
ON THE MOST DIFFICULT FINANCIAL TIMES OF THE CITY.
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE WAS NO MONEY.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKE WHAT WE ARE TODAY, PEOPLE WHO
SACRIFICED A LOT, WHO DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING SO THAT THE CITY
COULD CONTINUE TO MARCH FORWARD.
DESPITE THE CHALLENGES, RON ASSISTED IN DIRECTING THE CITY
TOWARD THE NEW GOAL OF BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE AND SMALL
GROWTH IN THE CITY WHEN THE CITY WAS IN DECLINE.
70s AND 80s TAMPA EXPERIENCED THE LARGEST DECLINE IN
POPULATION AND AD VALOREM TAXES.
TAMPA EXPERIENCED CHALLENGING URBAN FLIGHTS WHICH ONLY BEGAN
TO BE REVERSED IN THE MID '80s.
RON WAS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE REBIRTH OF TAMPA AND PLAYED
CRITICAL ROLES IN EACH PHASE OF THE NEW TAMPA.
THERE WAS NEW TAMPA WAS JUST VACANT LAND THEN.
THROUGH RON AND GRECO AND THE REST, THEY FORMED A NEW CITY

IN THE CITY CALLED NEW TAMPA.
I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE ALL OLD.
THAT'S NEWER THAN WE ARE.
THAT'S ALL.
DOING ALL THOSE THINGS, HE ALSO WORKED ON BRINGING IN
INDUSTRIES THAT RELOCATED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WERE
CLEAN.
INDIVIDUAL THAT NEVER SAID NO.
HE SAYS LET'S GO DO IT.
TAMPA WAS ON THE MOVE AND WAS NAMED ONE OF FIVE MEGATREND
CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME THAT HE
WAS HERE.
RON WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT ALL.
GRATEFUL IN APPRECIATION RON ROTELLA DEDICATION AND
COMMITMENT TO THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO
PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 27th DAY OF MARCH OF
2025.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:41AM >> FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THE DISTINCTION THIS MORNING.
WHEN I STARTED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT WAS A DIFFERENT
CITY.
I STARTED WITH MAYOR NICK NUCCIO, DOWNTOWN ON THE CHANNEL,
YOU HAD WOODEN DOCKS AND YOU HAD HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING

UNDER THE WOODEN DOCKS, PUT IN A CONCRETE SEAWALL AND DID
AWAY WITH THAT.
MIRABELLA'S FISHING FLEET WAS DOWNTOWN ON THE RIVER.
WE RELOCATED THE FISHING FLEET AFTER THE 22nd STREET
CAUSEWAY.
AND THEN ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER IN DOWNTOWN, YOU HAD
HUGE GRAIN SILOS AND THEY TOOK UP THE WHOLE SIDE OF DOWNTOWN
TAMPA.
WE RELOCATED THE GRAIN FACTORIES TO EAST OF TAMPA.
I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT THE RATS THAT VACATED THOSE SILOS,
THEY WERE AS LARGE AS ALLEY CATS.
THEY WERE HUGE BECAUSE THEY FED ON THE GRAIN 24 HOURS A DAY.
AND PROBABLY -- I WON'T GO INTO A LOT OF PROJECTS.
WE WERE VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL, BUT TALK ABOUT ONE THAT
CHANGED THE HISTORY OF TAMPA.
GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF JIM APTHORP, WHO WORKED FOR U.S.
HOMES, BOUGHT SEVERAL HUNDRED ACRES OF PROPERTY JUST OUTSIDE
THE CITY LIMITS.
HIS INTENTION WAS TO BUILD A NUMBER OF SUBDIVISIONS.
WELL, LITTLE DID HE FIND OUT THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COULD
NOT PROVIDE THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.
HE MET WITH BOB MARTINEZ AND I AND SAID, LISTEN, I WOULD
LIKE YOU GUYS TO EXTEND THE WATER AND SEWER FROM THE CITY TO
MY DEVELOPMENT.

SO BOB WAS ABOUT TO RESPOND AND I NUDGED HIM.
I SAID, LISTEN, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT OUR WATER AND SEWER
DEPARTMENTS CAN MEET YOUR DEMAND, BUT LET US VERIFY THAT.
LET'S MEET NEXT WEEK.
WE MET THE FOLLOWING WEEK, AND JIM APTHORP WAS THERE AND HIS
BOSS AND GENERAL COUNSEL FOR U.S. HOMES.
JIM SAYS, WELL, HAVE YOU GUYS MADE A DECISION.
HE SAID, YES, WE HAVE.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND EXTEND THE WATER AND SEWER TO YOUR
DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, HE DIDN'T STEP OUT OF HIS CHAIR.
HE LEAPED OUT OF HIS CHAIR AND STARTED YELLING THIS IS
NOTHING BUT BLACKMAIL.
THIS IS DIRTY BLACKMAIL.
THE GENERAL COUNSEL FINALLY SAYS, JIM, BE QUIET, SIT DOWN.
HE SAT DOWN, HE SAID, SO LET ME ASK THE QUESTION
STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IF WE ANNEX OUR LAND INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA, THERE WILL BE
NO STRINGS ATTACHED.
AND BOB MARTINEZ SAYS, NO STRINGS ATTACHED.
WE'LL EXPEDITE THE ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY.
AND WE DID.
AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS ALL THE DEVELOPERS AND THE
PROPERTY OWNERS NORTH OF THAT AND EAST AND WEST SAID, WELL,
WAIT A MINUTE, LET'S NOT WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE TO DO AN

ANNEXATION.
LETS AN NEXT OUR PROPERTY INTO THE CITY NOW SO WHEN WE'RE
READY TO DEVELOP THE ANNEXATION PROCESS WILL BE BEHIND US.
I.E. NEW TAMPA.
NORTH OF U.S. HOMES PROJECT AND THEN EAST AND WEST ALL THE
WAYS UP TO THE PASCO COUNTY LINE.
SO THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.
AND IT CHANGED TAMPA.
I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENDATION THIS
MORNING.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
RON, I'M SORRY TO SAY REPRESENTATIVE
KATHY CASTOR COULD NOT BE HERE BUT SHE SENT A THANK-YOU FROM
THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
EXTEND MY SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR THE DECADES OF DEDICATED
SERVICE TO CITY OF TAMPA AND WESTSHORE COMMUNITY.
YOUR TIRELESS ADVOCACY AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT
INSTRUMENTAL IN SHAPING THE GROWTH OF OUR REGION.
I CONGRATULATE YOU, THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THIS COMMENDATION
PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.
ALSO, THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE WHEN
THEY WERE TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING AND YOU WERE THE LEADER
OF THE CREATION, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.
BECAME THE NUMBER ONE MORE LIKELY AT THAT TIME IN THE UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA.
EXPRESS HEARTFELT GRATITUDE FOR MANY CONTRIBUTIONS, YOUR
LEGACY AND GENEROSITY TO THE CITY.
BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR DEDICATION AND SERVICE,
KATHY CASTOR.
9:23:32AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
KATHY'S MOTHER WAS SENATOR CASTOR.
JUST A QUICK STORY.
WHEN WE WERE GOING TO DO THE AREA-WIDE DRI, IT HAD TO BE
APPROVED BY THE STATE AND APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS
COMMITTEE.
A GUY FROM JACKSONVILLE CHAIRED THE COMMITTEE.
HE WAS GOING TO BOTTLE THE BILL UP AND NOT LET IT OUT.
I WAS GOING TO GET UP AND SAY SOMETHING, AND KATHY SAYS, SO
I STAYED IN MY SEAT AND SHE CALLED FOR A RECESS, STEPPED
OUTSIDE FOR 15 MINUTES WITH THE CHAIRMAN.
SHE CAME BACK IN, SAT DOWN, AND THE CHAIRMAN WENT AHEAD AND
MADE THE MOTION TO CREATE THE LEGISLATURE FOR THE AREA-WIDE
DRI.
I SAID TO KATHY, WHAT DID YOU DO?
SAYS, RON, YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
THAT'S HOW THAT HAPPENED.
9:24:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW, THE NEXT ONE, HE
ALSO WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY WITH THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE, TO

ECHO WHAT HE'S DONE AND WORKED WITH, THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE
IS AN AREA, TAMPA AREA, NORTH AND WEST PART OF THE CITY THAT
HAS MORE THAN 12 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE AND
100,000 WORKERS WORK IN THAT AREA.
RON WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN STARTING WORKING WITH THE FIRST
INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS HIRED BY THE AREA OF THE WESTSHORE
ALLIANCE.
HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB, AND NOW HE'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB
OF BEING WITH HIS WIFE AND FAMILY.
VERY LUCKY TO BE THE MAN THAT YOU ARE.
LOVELY WIFE AND YOUR SON.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY.
MOST OF ALL, WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN WITHOUT
TRYING TO BE KNOWN.
BECAUSE YOUR HARD WORK AND LABOR HAS REALLY, REALLY DONE
WELL FOR ALL OF US.
THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR BEING HERE AT CITY
COUNCIL.
IT WAS 400,000 PEOPLE, OVER 400,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
HOWEVER, WE SERVE WATER FOR OVER 700,000 PEOPLE BECAUSE OF
THE ANNEXATION AND AREAS AROUND THE COUNTY.
HAPPENED BECAUSE YOURSELF AND SEVEN MAYORS YOU WORKED WITH.
CONGRATULATE YOU FOR WHO YOU'VE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:25:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:25:57AM >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU.
9:25:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. ROTELLA, I WANTED TO THANK YOU.
THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED BETTY CASTOR.
YOU WORKED AT TIMES WITH JUST AMAZING NAMES HERE IN
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, TAMPA AREA.
PEOPLE LIKE BETTY CASTOR, PHYLLIS BUSANSKY, RUDY FERNANDEZ,
SO MANY OTHERS DURING THAT TIME WHO HELPED BUILD OUR AREA.
OBVIOUSLY, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED NEW TAMPA.
I LIVE IN HUNTER'S GREEN, USED TO LIVE IN TAMPA PALMS.
WHEN YOU ALL WENT OUT THERE AND SENT LEWIS AND CLARK OUT
THERE TO BUILD THE ALASKA OF TAMPA, WE'RE BETTER FOR IT.
WE'RE GLAD WE CAN HONOR YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE
FOR OUR CITY.
THANK YOU, SIR.
9:26:41AM >> NEW TAMPA WAS AN EXCITING ANNEXATION TO THE CITY.
TELL YOU A QUICK STORY.
HOME DEPOT HAD A CONTRACT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE MET WITH THEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID, WELL, OKAY, HERE IS OUR SIGN.
I SAID, WELL, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
WE HAVE A VERY STRINGENT SIGN ORDINANCE OUT HERE IN THE NEW

TAMPA AREA.
YOU'LL -- WE'RE NOT AMENDING OUR SIGN.
THIS IS OUR STANDARD SIGN.
WE DO IT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
I SAID OKAY.
ONE OF THE PEOPLE SAID, WELL, I GUESS THE MEETING IS OVER.
I GOT UP AND I LEFT.
THEIR GENERAL COUNSEL CAME IN AND SAID WHERE ARE YOU GOING?
WELL, THE MEETING IS OVER.
NO, IT'S NOT OVER.
THEY ARE BLUFFING.
THEY'LL GO WITH THE PROJECT.
THEY'LL AMEND THEIR SIGN.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
I WENT BACK IN AND, OF COURSE, THEY WENT AHEAD AND DID IT.
THE ONLY COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE, WE TREATED BRUCE B. DOWNS
DIFFERENTLY THAN THE CITY TREATED DALE MABRY.
NOT EVERY DEVELOPER HAD A CURB CUT IN AND OUT OF THE
PROPERTY.
WE HAD KEY INTERSECTIONS WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS AND
DEVELOPERS HAD TO EXTEND THEIR ROADS ALONGSIDE BRUCE B.
DOWNS TO THESE INTERSECTIONS TO GET IN AND OUT.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC SNARL.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONGESTION.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE UGLY SIGNAGE WITH ALL THOSE BILLBOARDS.

I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB IN NEW TAMPA.
9:28:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:28:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MR. ROTELLA, GOOD MORNING.
MR. ROTELLA.
HI, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE HISTORY LESSON.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AS ONE OF THE NEWEST COUNCIL
MEMBERS, KNOWING HISTORY ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE GOOD DECISION
EVEN GOING FORWARD.
DARLENE, IF POSSIBLE, I'D LOVE TO HAVE LUNCH WITH YOU AND
YOU TELL A FEW MORE STORIES TO ME PERSONALLY, THAT WOULD BE
WONDERFUL IF YOU HAVE THE TIME.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE AND YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS
TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING IT WITH US THIS MORNING.
9:28:39AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT WAS A DISTINCT PLEASURE FOR ME.
9:28:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
TECHNICALLY WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK DURING THESE THINGS.
SINCE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE BROKE THE RULES, I'LL BREAK THE
RULE TOO.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS.
HOPEFULLY YOU ARE WRITING A BOOK OR RECORDING SOME OF THIS
DONE BECAUSE WE LOST TOO MANY OF YOUR FORMER COLLEAGUES.

I REMEMBER MANY THINGS OVER THE YEARS THAT YOU HELPED DO.
WHEN GRECO WAS MAYOR, YOU AND ANOTHER NAME WE HAVEN'T
MENTIONED WITH FERNANDO NORIEGA.
THE THREE OF YOU GUYS WERE GETTING EVERYTHING DONE IN THE
CITY.
IT WAS REMARKABLE LOOKING AT THE CHANGE IN THE PACE.
WE LOOK AT THE ECONOMY IN TAMPA IN JUST THE LAST FEW YEARS
AND ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAPPENED.
BUT AS YOU BRIEFLY DESCRIBE, MOST OF THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF
WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST 10 OR 20 YEARS HAPPENED BECAUSE
OF WHAT YOU ALL DID IN THE '90s.
THANK YOU.
ALSO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID AT THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
WESTSHORE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND BE ANOTHER OUTSTANDING
AREA BECAUSE THE VISION YOU SET IN PLACE 20, 30 YEARS AGO.
9:29:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THOSE RATS
YOU SAVED, THEIR GREAT, GREAT, GREAT, GREAT, GREAT
GRANDCHILDREN ARE NOW DOG SIZE -- THEY MORPHED -- AND THEY
ARE ALL LIVING ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND HYDE PARK.
IF YOU COULD HAVE GONE BACK, WE'D APPRECIATE NOT SAVING THE
RATS.
9:29:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
IN A MOMENT, COUNCILMAN VIERA PRESENTING TO CAPTAIN KURT.
9:31:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE TO HONOR FOR HIS 30 YEARS OF SERVICE
TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, CAPTAIN KURT
ROJKA WHO IS HERE WITH HIS WIFE.
CHIEF BERCAW IS HERE TO PAY HONOR TO THIS VERY GOOD MAN.
CAPTAIN ROJKA HAS SERVED OUR CITY FOR 30 YEARS IN UNIFORM
THROUGH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
HE IS KNOWN AS A MAN OF INTEGRITY, A MAN OF FAITH, A MAN OF
COMMUNITY, AS A MAN OF FAMILY.
HIS DEDICATION TO A KEY NUMBER OF PROGRAMS HERE THROUGHOUT
HIS THREE DECADES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
FIRST IS THE ISSUE OF PREVENTION OF CRIME AND DELINQUENCY
WITH OUR YOUTH.
SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THIS MAN'S HEART.
SOMETHING IS HOMELESS SERVICES.
SOMETHING THAT THEN CHIEF BENNETT CHAMPIONED ALMOST 15 YEARS
AGO IN 2012 HAS BEEN VERY, VERY CLOSE TO CAPTAIN ROJKA'S
HEART.
AND LAST, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH HIM ON THAT I KNOW
IS VERY CLOSE TO CITY COUNCIL'S HEART AND TO THE COMMUNITY'S
HEART IS OUR MENTAL HEALTH UNIT HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SOMETHING THAT HE CHAMPIONED, THAT CAPTAIN ROJKA, CHAMPIONED
IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT.
HE'S BRIEFED US A FEW TIMES HERE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ON IT
AND VERY, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT.
WHAT UNITES ALL THESE THREE AREAS HE HAS CHAMPIONED WITH

TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A REAL COMMITMENT TO PEOPLE, TO
HUMAN SERVICES, KNOWING THAT THE FIGHT AGAINST CRIME ISN'T
JUST A FIGHT AGAINST VIOLENT CRIME.
IT'S ALSO A FIGHT ON THE CAUSES OF VIOLENT CRIME.
WHEN I WAS DOING RESEARCH, I FOUND A POTENTIALLY TRAGIC
INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED IN ONE OF OUR SCHOOLS IN NORTH TAMPA
WHERE YOU ALMOST HAD A COLUMBINE SITUATION OUT THERE.
YOU HIGHLIGHTED, SIR, 2012, THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT OF
THAT.
TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT,
CAPTAIN ROJKA WOULD SEE HOW THE HUMAN ELEMENT WOULD
INTERTWINE WITH CRIME.
IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND, HE IS A TAMPA NATIVE.
LIKE MANY OF OUR TAMPA POLICE OFFICERS AND TAMPA
FIREFIGHTERS, HE IS A VETERAN, HAVING SERVED THE UNITED
STATES ARMY FOR FOUR YEARS AND FOUR YEARS ALSO IN THE
NATIONAL GUARD.
HE IS VERY, VERY ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS A CHURCH-GOER,
GOOD SOUTHERN BAPTIST AND ALSO DOES WONDERFUL WORK WITH AN
ORGANIZATION THAT I'VE SEEN HIM IN THROUGH THE CHILDREN'S
NETWORK OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO HIS HEART, DEALING WITH HUMAN
WELFARE, ORGANIZATION THAT PROMOTES ADOPTION AND FOSTER
PARENTING.
AGAIN, THE THINGS THAT UNITE ALL OF THESE THINGS IS CAPTAIN

ROJKA'S DEDICATION TO HUMAN WELFARE.
SIR, FOR YOUR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE, BOTH IN THE MILITARY AS
WELL AS 30 YEARS HERE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE JUST WANTED
TO HONOR YOU, SIR, BECAUSE WE APPRECIATE YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR CHARACTER, YOUR INTEGRITY.
FOR THAT AND SO MUCH MORE, SIR, WE ARE HERE TO HONOR YOU,
SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I KNOW CHIEF BERCAW WOULD LIKE TO SAY WORDS ABOUT THIS GOOD
MAN.
9:34:06AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
YOU HIGHLIGHTED SO MANY THINGS, BUT OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM,
TAKING CARE OF OUR OFFICERS WOULD NOT BE WHAT IT IS TODAY IF
IT WAS NOT FOR CAPTAIN ROJKA.
MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS, PHYSICAL NEEDS, FINANCIAL NEEDS, THEY
ARE BETTER EQUIPPED BECAUSE OF HIS INITIATIVE IN STARTING
THAT PROGRAM.
THAT IS LAYING THE FOUNDATION FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
YOU HIT SO MANY OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD.
YOU TALK ABOUT ENDING YOUR CAREER ON A HIGHLIGHT, SO WE HAD
TWO HURRICANES BACK TO BACK AS YOU'RE AWARE OF.
WE HAD TO CALL IN RESOURCES FROM OTHER AGENCIES ACROSS THE
STATE TO HELP, HUNDREDS OF OFFICERS.

AND WHAT CAPTAIN CAN HELP US WITH LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE?
NOT ONLY DID HE VOLUNTEER FOR IT, HE MADE IT SO IMPRESSIVE
THAT ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES WERE LIKE, WOW, TAMPA HAS THEIR
ACT TOGETHER, THEY ARE SO ORGANIZED AND THAT'S ALL BECAUSE
OF THIS CAPTAIN HERE.
YOU'VE DONE SO MUCH FOR THIS ORGANIZATION THAT WE'RE JUST SO
INDEBTED TO YOU.
THE IMPACT THAT YOU LEAVE WILL BE FOR LEGACIES TO COME.
CONGRATULATIONS.
9:35:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY OF TAMPA AND
GRATEFUL POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD LIKE TO HONOR YOU.
9:35:20AM >> COUNCILMAN VIERA, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU.
CHIEF BERCAW, YOU AND I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS, COLLEAGUES, AND
BOSS FOR MANY YEARS.
ALWAYS BEEN A PLEASURE, SIR, TO WORK WITH YOU AND TO ALL OF
OUR STAFF HERE, I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND
FRIENDSHIP.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WHEN I STARTED IN POLICING IN 1995, I HEAR MR. ROTELLA SPEAK
OF NEW TAMPA, HOME DEPOT WAS NOT THERE.
I THINK IT WAS HUNTER'S GREEN, PEBBLE CREEK, AND NEW TAMPA
-- SORRY, TAMPA PALMS.
THAT WAS IT.
THERE WERE NO BUSINESSES TO SPEAK OF UP THERE AND TWO
OFFICERS THAT PATROLLED REGULARLY AND THAT WAS IT.

WE'VE SEEN IT DEVELOP QUITE A BIT.
I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I'VE HAD AT THE
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YOU HIGHLIGHTED THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH UNITS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M VERY PROUD
OF THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT
I DID WITH IT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE SMALL PIECE OF IT.
IT WAS THE FACT THAT THE CITY WAS WILLING TO TAKE ON THAT
PROJECT AND HOUSE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FOR IT TO
CARRY ON WITH THE LEGACY OF OTHERS WHO WILL COME BEHIND AND
MAKE THAT GROW, IT'S REALLY A SPECIAL PROJECT THAT I GOT TO
BE A PART OF EARLY ON.
I'M ETERNALLY GRATEFUL TO THE CITY TO HAVE BEEN A POLICE
OFFICER HERE.
IF I HAD TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN, I WOULDN'T CHANGE A THING.
PROBABLY THE BEST CAREER I COULD EVER ASK FOR.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
SIR, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENDATION TODAY.
IT MEANS THE WORLD TO ME.
CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR ME, ALL THE
SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:37:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.
9:37:06AM >> THANK YOU.

9:37:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE TO HONOR THE
PURCHASING DEPARTMENT.
9:37:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HONORABLE CHAIR, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN, IT IS MY
PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE THIS HONORABLE GROUP.
TODAY IS A DAY THAT WE CALL PURCHASING DEPARTMENT STAFF
DESIGNATING PURCHASING MONTH THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
WE'RE SO PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PURCHASING
DEPARTMENT.
DEANNA FAGGART JUST TOOK OVER THIS ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR SO.
TIME DOES FLY BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY.
SHE TOOK OVER FROM ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD DONE AN
OUTSTANDING JOB AND HERSELF DOING THE SAME OUTSTANDING JOB
FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ALL AROUND THE OTHER
COMMUNITIES.
IT IS MY PLEASURE TODAY TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION ON
BEHALF OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WHAT YOU
CONTINUE TO DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
THIS IS YOUR MONTH TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE NOT
ONLY FOR THE CITY BUT ANYBODY UNDERSTANDING WHAT PURCHASING
IS DOING, THE STRESS, COMMODITY, CHANGING OF PRICES, PRODUCT
CHANGES AND WHAT DO YOU DO THEN?
CITY OF TAMPA, CITY COUNCIL PRESENTS THIS COMMENDATION ON
BEHALF OF ALL OF THE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OVER 400,000
PEOPLE.

CITY PURCHASING DEPARTMENT RECEIVE ANNUAL ACHIEVEMENT OF
EXCELLENCE PROCUREMENT AWARD FROM THE NATIONAL PURCHASING
INSTITUTE FOR 18 CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
THAT'S NOT SOMEBODY WE HIRE.
THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT COMES AND CHECK ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
WE, MEANING YOUR DEPARTMENT AND UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP.
WE'RE SO PROUD OF YOU AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE IS CREATE AN
AMBIENCE, FUTURE AMBIENCE FOR ANYONE WHO FOLLOWS YOU THAT
THOSE SHOES MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT SIZE, BUT YOU HAVE TO STEP
FORWARD AND DO WHAT, THE JOB THAT ALL OF YOU DO FOR THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T MAKE NOISE BUT YOU DO DO A LOT OF
PURCHASING AND SAVE A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.
CITY COUNCIL OF TAMPA, PREVIOUSLY ISSUED THIS COMMENDATION
TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT YEARLY FOR OUTSTANDING SERVICE
TO THE CITY AND ALL DEPARTMENTS.
YOU WORK WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY, WHATEVER THEY
NEED, YOU ARE THE GO-TO PERSON, STAFF THAT DOES THE WORK AND
MAKE SURE IT IS DONE AND IT'S NOT EASY.
ONE DAY I WISH I COULD SHOW EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
WHAT YOU GO THROUGH ON A DAILY BASIS TO GET THINGS WHAT YOU
REALLY NEED IN AN ECONOMY THRIVING AND NOW THE TARIFF GO UP
MAYBE 25%.
NOT IN TAMPA.

I WANTED TO MAKE THIS COMMENDATION PRESENTED TO THE LEADER,
DEANNA FAGGART, FOR OUTSTANDING STAFF AND THE WORK YOU HAVE
DONE THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR THAT WE'VE HAD YOU IN CHARGE AND
ALL THE MEMBERS OF YOUR STAFF.
I'M SURE YOU GO A LITTLE MORE ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU DO AND
HOW YOU DO IT AND HOW MUCH COSTS ARE GOING UP.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE.
ALL OF YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:32AM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
THANK YOU.
DEANNA FAGGART, DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING.
I AM ACCEPTING THIS COMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE STAFF WHO
DO AN AMAZING JOB.
WITH US HERE, WE'VE GOT SHERYL ALDRIDGE, THE PROCUREMENT
SYSTEMS MANAGER.
DAVID OUR INTERIM PROCUREMENT MANAGER AND WE HAVE THE STAFF
THAT SUPPORT YOU ALL EVERY DAY HERE WITH US.
THIS TEAM PUTS OUT ABOUT 200 SOLICITATIONS A YEAR.
WE COME BEFORE COUNCIL I THINK ABOUT 180 TIMES A YEAR OR
SOMETHING.
WE'RE BUSY EVERY DAY.
THIS AGENDA ALONE WE HAVE 28 ITEMS.
THEY ARE A HARDWORKING STAFF.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS IN THE SUNSHINE IS TRANSPARENT, AND
WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THAT.

WE'RE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE THAT FAITH
IN US.
AS CHARLIE -- EXCUSE ME, AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED,
ACHIEVED THE EXCELLENCE IN PROCUREMENT AWARD FROM THE
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PROCUREMENT.
18 YEARS IN A ROW.
EVERY YEAR THEY CHANGE THE CRITERIA FOR THAT.
IT'S NOT A ONE AND DONE.
YOU DON'T JUST KEEP SUBMITTING THE SAME APPLICATION.
EVERY SINGLE YEAR THEY CHANGE THE CRITERIA AND THE PURPOSE
OF THAT IS TO MAINTAIN THOSE BEST PRACTICES TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE BEST PROCEDURES AND ALL OF THAT.
WE JUST APPRECIATE THE COMMENDATION.
WE APPRECIATE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF PURCHASING MONTH WHICH
FALLS IN MARCH EVERY YEAR.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO EVERY DAY TO
SUPPORT US AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
9:42:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT.
EVERYBODY HERE, WITH YOU, BESIDE YOU, BEHIND YOU, THANK YOU
FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY.
IT'S NOT EASY AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.
CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'LL TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AS FOLKS STEP OUT AND WE'LL GO INTO
PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'LL TAKE THE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS FIRST.
THE ON-AGENDA SPEAKERS AND THE OFF-AGENDA SPEAKERS.
FIRST SPEAKER ONLINE IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH FOLLOWED BY
CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND MS. ADRIAN RODRIGUEZ.
GOOD MORNING, MR. RANDOLPH.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:43:25AM >> YES, FOR SURE.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
I'LL START OFF BY SHARING WITH YOU THAT SELECTED AS THE
NEWEST MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE ENCORE
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THANK YOU FOR RECOMMENDING ME.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CRA, REPRESENTATIVE SHARED HER
EFFORTS TO EXTEND THE TIMELINE FOR PROJECTS FOR THE CRA.
UNFORTUNATELY IT FAILED.
WE MUST PREPARE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING THE CRA.
IN THAT EVENT, WE MUST EMBRACE THE OUT-OF-THE-BOX THINKING
AND TURN TO ALTERNATIVE INITIATIVE TO -- THE COMMUNITY
BENEFIT AGREEMENT KNOWN AS THE CBA.
BY UTILIZING THE CBA, WE CAN DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
EXTEND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND IMPLEMENT INNOVATIVE

SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS OUR NEEDS.
A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS INNOVATION IS THE WEST TAMPA CDC
MODEL.
THE CBA, WEST TAMPA CDC WILL ESTABLISH A WEST TAMPA
TECHNOLOGY AND WEALTH BUILDING AND JOB CREATION INCENTIVE
OVER 30 RESIDENT OWNED BUSINESSES AND 15 TO 20 NEW JOBS OVER
THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO INCREASE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY BY
INCORPORATING THIS INITIATIVE WE ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE
ASSISTANCE, ANYONE FROM THE DROPOUT TO THE COLLEGE GRADUATE.
WEST TAMPA CDC UPDATE.
THE WEST TAMPA CDC IS ALSO PIONEERING IN THE INTEGRATION OF
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO MAXIMIZE THIS IMPACT.
THIS TRANSFORMATIVE APPROACH WILL ALLOW A LEAN STAFF OF
THREE TO HANDLE THE WORKLOAD TYPICALLY BY TEN EMPLOYEES.
BY LEVERAGING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, WE CAN RECEIVE
EXCEPTIONAL A PERFORMANCE, COST EFFICIENCY, AND OPERATIONAL
IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS INNOVATIVE MODEL STREAMLINES THE PROCESS, MOVES
PRODUCTIVITY AND EMPOWERS COMMUNITY.
FINALLY, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO RON AND HIS SERVICES
TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I MET RON ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO WHEN WE BOTH SERVED ON THE
UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA CERTIFICATION PROGRAM AND REAL ESTATE
DEVELOPMENT.
I LEARNED A LOT FROM HIM IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATION.

THANK YOU.
9:46:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RANDOLPH.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT, ADRIAN RODRIGUEZ.
CARROLL ANN, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO
AHEAD.
IF YOU WOULD UNMUTE YOURSELF.
9:46:29AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, ALMOST EVERY COMMUNITY GATHERING I
ATTENDED, WHETHER AROUND A KITCHEN TABLE, COFFEE WITH CASTOR
OR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING, EVENTUALLY SOMEONE ENDS
UP SAYING WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, SO
WE HAVE TO WALK IN THE STREET.
THE CODE REQUIRES THAT THE CITY CHARGES THEIR AVERAGE COST
OF INSTALLING A SIDEWALK FOR THE IN LIEU OF FEE.
THAT SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC, PERIOD.
WE HAVEN'T RAISED THE IN LIEU OF FEE FOR 15 YEARS BECAUSE
FOR SOME REASON CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO VOTE ON IT.
THAT ENDS UP GETTING POLITICIZED, BACK AND FORTH, HEMMING
AND HAWING, CITY RESOURCES ARE WASTED.
PEOPLE'S TIME IS WASTED.
THE CODE IS CLEAR ON THE INTENT.
IT SHOULD JUST BE AUTOMATIC.
WHEN BUILDERS SAY THAT INCREASING THE FEE TO THE CITY'S COST

IS GOING TO INCREASE HOUSING, THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
BUILDERS CHARGE MARKET RATE, PERIOD.
IF THEY SAVE $500 ON A FEE, THEY DON'T CHARGE $500 LESS FOR
THE HOUSE.
IF THEY CAN REDUCE THE COST OF BUILDING A HOUSE, IT
INCREASES THEIR PROFIT, PERIOD.
IT'S ALL MARKET DRIVEN.
WHO DO THEY THINK PAYS IF THEY DON'T?
IT'S NOT SANTA CLAUS.
THE CITY HAS TO PAY.
WHERE DOES THEIR MONEY COME FROM?
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IT IS THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE TO PAY AND
MORE EXPENSIVE FOR THE CITY TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS SO
RESIDENTS END UP PAYING THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE PRICE WHEN
BUILDERS DON'T INSTALL SIDEWALKS.
BUILDERS JUST HAVE TO ASK THEMSELVES ONE QUESTION.
IS IT MORE THAN $220 A FOOT TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK OR LESS?
IF IT'S LESS, THEN THEY BUILD THE SIDEWALK AND SAVE MONEY.
IF IT'S MORE THAN 220, THEY PAY THE 220 AND THEY SAVE MONEY.
THEY NEVER, EVER, EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES PAY HIGHER
THAN WHAT IT -- WHAT THEIR COST IS TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK.
TAMPA EXCELS AT KILLING OUR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS.
WE'RE THE BEST AT IT.
IF KILLING PEOPLE IS OUR GOAL, THEN WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING
RIGHT.

IF SAVING LIVES IS OUR GOAL, WE MUST CHANGE EVERYTHING WE'RE
DOING.
CARS AREN'T MOWING PEOPLE DOWN ON SIDEWALKS.
THANK YOU.
9:48:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ADRIAN RODRIGUEZ IS OUR LAST ONLINE SPEAKER.
THEN WE'LL GO TO THE IN-PERSON ON AGENDA ITEMS.
ADRIAN RODRIGUEZ, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:49:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK THIS MORNING ON CEMETERIES.
WHAT IS A CEMETERY?
CEMETERY SERVES AS THE FINAL RESTING PLACE FOR THE DECEASED
PROVIDING A SPACE FOR BURIAL AND REMEMBRANCE.
OVER TIME, CEREMONIES IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAVE EVOLVED
INTO PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS, SHOPPING CENTERS
AND YES, NEW CEMETERIES.
WOODLAWN CEMETERY IS UNDER THREAT OF DEVELOPMENT ONCE MORE,
AS YOU ARE LIKELY AWARE.
THE OWNER HAS PUT THE SAME PARCEL THAT WAS SAVED IN 2022,
IT'S BEEN PUT UP FOR SALE.
COUNCIL, IT'S A CEMETERY.
IT'S A 40-ACRE CEMETERY.
IT'S BEEN A CEMETERY SINCE 1988.
TAMPE OS CONSIDERED ALL 40 ACRES TO BE A CEMETERY, WHETHER
BETH ISRAEL, CENTRO ASTURIANO, IT IS ALL A CEMETERY.

IN 1900, THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF THE PROPERTY WAS RESERVED
FOR BLACK BURIALS.
IN 1951, 63 YEARS AFTER WOODLAWN OPENED, THE NORTHWEST
SECTION OF THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED.
IF THIS PARCEL FOR SALE IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL, THEN WHY HAS
SHOWMAN'S REST NOT PAID TAXES IN FIVE AND A HALF DECADES?
WELL, IT IS A CEMETERY AND THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM PAYING TAXES
BECAUSE IT IS A CEMETERY.
ON FEBRUARY 24, 2022, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY
IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING OF THE PARCEL.
WOODLAWN WAS SAVED, AND WE WERE SO GRATEFUL.
IN 2023, THE GREEN TEAM HAD GRANDEUR ILLUSIONS OF TURNING
THE PARCEL INTO A MEMORIAL PARCEL WITH BENCHES, WINDING
SIDEWALKS, NEWLY PLANTED, TREES.
BUT AT THE URGING OF THE COMMUNITY, THAT PROJECT HALTED
SEVERAL DAYS LATER.
SO HERE WE GO AGAIN, 2025.
SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD A FANTASTIC IDEA
FOR THE CITY TO ALLOCATE FUNDS TO PAY FOR GROUND PENETRATING
RADAR SCANS SO THAT WE WOULD ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THE RESULTS.
IF BODIES ARE CONFIRMED, THE CITY WOULD PURCHASE THE
PROPERTY OR LAND.
PLEASE CONSIDER PURCHASING THE PARCEL AT SHOWMAN'S REST.
THE CITY HAS THE MONEY.
WE HAD THE MONEY FOR HANNA AVENUE, RIVERWALK, FRANKLIN

STREET.
THE CITY DOES HAVE THE MONEY.
OUR PATH SHOULD BE AS IMPORTANT AS OUR FUTURE BECAUSE
HISTORY MATTERS.
IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THE OWNER WHO HAS EVERY RIGHT TO SELL HER
LAND, WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE SALE OF IT, BUT WE ARE AGAINST
ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ON SACRED GROUND.
LET'S SHOW RESPECT TO CLARIFY HENRY RUIZ, AKA TED WEBB, ALL
BURIED IN THE 40-ACRE WOODLAWN CEMETERY.
9:52:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
THE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS, BETH ALDEN, HUMAIRA AFZAL, STEPHEN
MICHELINI.
ON-AGENDA ITEMS.
9:52:22AM >> GOOD MORNING.
BETH ALDEN, A VOLUNTEER WITH WALK BIKE TAMPA.
I HAVE A LETTER FROM THE WALK BIKE TAMPA BOARD WHICH I'LL
PROVIDE TO THE CLERK.
WALK BIKE TAMPA IS A NONPROFIT ALL VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION
FOCUSED ON PROMOTING SAFE, CONNECTED ROUTES FOR PEOPLE
WALKING OR RIDING A BIKE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THE WALK BIKE TAMPA BOARD URGES YOU TO PASS THE RESOLUTION,
NUMBER 99 IN HAD YOUR AGENDA, ESTABLISHING THE UPDATED FEE
FOR PAYMENT TO THE SIDEWALK TRUST FUND WHEN INSTALLATION OF
A SIDEWALK IS NOT PRACTICAL FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UPDATES TO SECTIONS 22-103 AND 22-104 OF CITY CODE MADE IN

UP WITH IT, SIGNIFICANTLY STRENGTHENED BUILDER REQUIREMENTS
FOR INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS WHICH MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES
SAFER AND MORE WELCOMING TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND
INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES AND HELP LOCAL BUSINESSES.
BUT THE IN LIEU FEE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE EXCEPTIONS TO
SIDEWALK INSTALLATION FOR CHALLENGING LOCATIONS HAS NOT BEEN
UPDATED SINCE 2010.
AT $29 PER LINEAR FOOT, THE FEE DOES NOT REFLECT THE ACTUAL
COST OF INSTALLATION OF A SIDEWALK.
INSTEAD, INCREASING THE PROPOSED IN LIEU OF FEE TO $220 PER
LINEAR FOOT COVERS THE CITY'S ACTUAL COSTS FOR SIDEWALK
CONSTRUCTION AND WILL EXPEDITE REDUCING THE MANY MILES OF
GAPS IN TAMPA'S SIDEWALK NETWORK.
IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT I PERSONALLY INSTALLED A
SIDEWALK WHEN I BUILT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON MY
PROPERTY.
IT WAS PART OF THE LAST GAP ON MY BLOCK.
AND AFTERWARDS, MY NEIGHBOR WHO USES A ROLLATOR, USED THAT
SIDEWALK TO GET DOWN THE BLOCK TO HER BROTHER'S HOUSE BACK
AND FORTH.
I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT SHE WAS GOING OUT INTO THE ROAD
TO GET AROUND MY PROPERTY BEFORE I INSTALLED THAT SIDEWALK.
IT WAS A VERY MINOR COST AS PART OF MY OVERALL PROJECT.
I'M SO GLAD TO BE PART OF COMPLETING THAT SIDEWALK GAP.
WE ASK TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS FEE INCREASE TO

PROVIDE THE CITY WITH THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO IMPROVE THE
SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND SUPPORT OF THIS CRITICAL
FINANCIAL NEED.
9:54:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HUMAIRA AFZAL, STEVE MICHELINI, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:54:52AM >> HI.
HUMAIRA AFZAL.
I LOVE THE STORY SHE JUST TOLD.
I GUARANTEE YOU THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF STORIES ALL OVER THE
CITY ABOUT HOW THINGS LIKE ADDING A SIDEWALK WILL LITERALLY
CHANGE SOMEBODY'S LIFE.
FIRST, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 91, THE PARKING ORDINANCE.
WHEN I FIRST SAW THAT, I WAS HOPEFUL THERE MIGHT BE A WAY TO
INCLUDE ELEMENTS TO KEEP DRIVERS FROM PARKING IN BIKE LANES.
I SENT AN E-MAIL.
I DID GET PROMPT RESPONSES.
UNFORTUNATELY CAN'T DO SOME OF THE THINGS DUE TO FLORIDA
STATUTE.
I AM FRUSTRATED THAT THE FOCUS OF THE NEW PARKING ORDINANCE
IS ON CAPTURING MORE REVENUE AND THAT THERE REALLY DOES NOT
SEEM THAT THERE WAS A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO ALSO SEE IF THERE
ARE WAYS TO MAKE TAMPA SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS
IN UPDATING THAT ORDINANCE.
I AM ENCOURAGED THAT SOME OF THE CITY STAFF SAID THAT THEY

ARE WORKING ON SOME OTHER IDEAS TO ACHIEVE THAT, AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT IT.
MEANWHILE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE SOME OF THE NEW REVENUE
THAT YOU WILL GET FROM THE USE OF NEW TECHNOLOGY IN THAT
ORDINANCE, SUCH AS CAMERA ENFORCED PARKING, AND USE IT FOR
THINGS LIKE ADDING MORE SIGNAGE, DON'T PARK IN THE BIKE
LANE.
ALSO REPLACE BOLLARDS TO KEEP CARS OUT OF THE PROTECTED BIKE
LANES.
I EMPHASIZE THE PROTECTED BIKE LANES BECAUSE THEY ARE AN
IMPORTANT ENTRY POINT FOR BICYCLISTS AND FAMILIES.
PEOPLE FEEL SAFE BIKING IN THEM.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT ENTRY POINT.
I BIKE ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS ALL THE TIME BUT I'VE BEEN
BIKING FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING
THAT.
IT'S REALLY CRAZY THAT WE HAVE THESE AMAZING, PROTECTED BIKE
LANES THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY PROTECTED.
BIKES, WHY ARE BIKES IMPORTANT?
THEY GET CARS OFF OF THE ROAD, NUMBER ONE.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU WILL REDUCE CONGESTION WITHOUT
GETTING CARS OFF THE ROAD.
FOR EVERY TIME A PERSON CAN TAKE A TRIP BY A BUS, BY A BIKE,
BY WALKING, THAT IS A CAR OFF THE ROAD.
THEY ARE BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

THEY ARE A LOT CHEAPER THAN A CAR.
MAINTAINING BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALSO A LOT CHEAPER THAN
BUILDING AND MAINTAINING ROADS.
WITH MY BIKE FULLY LOADED WITH GROCERIES, IT'S ABOUT 150
POUNDS, INCLUDING ME.
THE AVERAGE MIDSIZE SUV IS ABOUT 5,000 POUNDS.
WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK PUTS MORE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ROAD?
ALSO HEALTH BENEFITS.
BUILDS COMMUNITY, ALL KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
ITEM 99, PLEASE VOTE YES.
TAMPA DESPERATELY NEEDS MORE SIDEWALKS.
AGAIN, THE CITY NEEDS TO GET MORE CREATIVE IN FINDING WAYS
TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARKING ON THE SIDEWALKS.
NO POINT IN BUILDING ALL THOSE WONDERFUL NEW SIDEWALKS IF
THEY ARE JUST GOING TO BE COVERED WITH CARS, BOATS,
TRAILERS, PORTA-POTTIES, ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS.
EXPECTING PEOPLE TO CALL IN EVERY VIOLATION, I CALL PARKING
ALL THE TIME.
THEY ARE VERY RESPONSIVE.
EXPECTING PEOPLE TO CALL IN EVERY VIOLATION IS SIMPLY NOT
GOING TO WORK.
I'M SURE CITY STAFF CAN COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS.
THINGS LIKE SIGNAGE.
KEEP STUFF OFF THE SIDEWALKS.
VOTE YES, THOUGH.

9:58:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
STEPHEN MICHELINI, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
JASON --
9:58:07AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
I'M HERE REGARDING THE IN LIEU FEE REGARDING SIDEWALKS.
I'VE LOOKED AT THE ANALYSIS THAT THE CITY HAD GIVEN ME
REGARDING THEIR COSTS, AND THEY HAVE INCLUDED A SIGNIFICANT
NUMBER OF THINGS THAT PROBABLY YOU SHOULDN'T INCLUDE.
THEY ALSO ARE ANALYZING 800 LINEAR FEET ON ONE PROJECT, 1500
LINEAR FEET ON ANOTHER ONE AND 1750 FEET ON ANOTHER ONE.
THE IN LIEU FEE IS FOR LIKE 50-FOOT LOTS AND 60-FOOT LOTS.
YOU CAN'T COMPARE THOSE COSTS.
LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT THE CITY ACTUALLY IS PAYING FOR
SIDEWALKS.
THIS IS FROM THE ANALYSIS THEY PROVIDED TO ME.
THEIR ACTUAL COSTS ARE $63.25 AND 97 FOR -- $97.75.
THIS CAME FROM THE ANALYSIS THAT THEY PROVIDED TO ME.
HERE ARE THE LINKS.
800 LINEAR FEET, 1500 LINEAR FEET, 1750 LINEAR FEET.
TYPICAL SMALL SCALE PROJECT IS 50 TO 100 FEET MAXIMUM.
I ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF BIDS THAT WERE PROVIDED THAT ARE
ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION BIDS.
WHAT THE CITY BASED THEIR ANALYSIS ON APPEARS TO BE
ESTIMATES FROM AN ENGINEERING COMPANY.
BUT THESE ARE ACTUAL COSTS PER PROJECTS THAT WENT IN THIS

PAST YEAR, $23 A LINEAR FOOT.
AGAIN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT A LOT THAT'S 50 FEET WIDE, 20
FEET, 24 FEET OF THAT COMES OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY.
SO THAT REMAINS 30 FEET, NOT THESE 1500 LINEAR FEET PROJECTS
THAT YOU'RE SEEING.
THIS ONE IS FROM STERLING BAY.
GARY BROWN, 3395 PER LINEAR FOOT.
HERE IS ANOTHER ONE, $1,210.
LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT THEY HAVE INCLUDED IN HERE.
TREE REMOVAL, CLEARING -- FIRE HYDRANTS.
ANYWAY, YOU CAN HAVE A LOOK.
I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THIS.
THERMOPLASTIC, UTILITY FIXTURES, TREE PROTECTION.
USUALLY THE TREE IN LIEU FEE IS USED WHEN YOU HAVE A GRAND
TREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU CAN'T REMOVE.
TRY GOING TO THE VARIANCE BOARD AND TELL THEM YOU WANT TO
REMOVE A TREE BECAUSE OF A SIDEWALK, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
WE NEED TO COMPARE LIKE COSTS TO LIKE COSTS.
HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF TO COME UP WITH AN
ANALYSIS OF A REAL VALUE.
10:01:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:01:13AM >> DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH PASSING AND CHANGING IT.
10:01:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, JASON ASHTON, LINDA --

10:01:25AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
MR. MICHELINI SHOWED YOU A BUNCH OF DEVELOPERS WHO INSTALLED
SIDEWALKS.
NOT MY PROBLEM.
GREAT THING.
THEY SHOULD ALL INSTALL SIDEWALKS UNLESS THEY CAN'T AND THEN
THEY PAY THE CITY TO DO IT.
KNOW WHY THE CITY HAS TO PAY MORE?
BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO ALL THE CRAZY THINGS IN ORDER TO DO
IT.
LET'S BE REAL HERE.
YOU CAN PAY THE CHEAP PRICE AND DO IT YOURSELF OR PAY THE
MORE EXPENSIVE PRICE AND LET THE CITY DO IT FOR YOU.
SORRY, NOT SORRY.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
OF COURSE, I PULLED THIS DATA EXACTLY FROM THE LAST TIME THE
SIDEWALK STUFF CAME.
WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET, THE CITY OF TAMPA
CITIZENS, THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT ASK FOR A NEW SIDEWALK OR
NEED NEW SIDEWALKS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WAS PAID IN
AND PAID OUT WAS $1.9 MILLION THAT THE CITIZENS WOULD BE
PAYING OUT OF POCKET.
I FORGOT ABOUT THAT SPREADSHEET UNTIL I GOT UP HERE AND SAW
MR. MICHELINI PUT HIS UP.
DEVELOPMENT CAN BE DONE WELL AND CAN BE DONE HALF-BAKED.

THAT'S ME PUTTING IT NICELY.
NUMBER 16 AND 17 ON YOUR AGENDA ALSO SHOW HALF-BAKED
DEVELOPMENT.
THAT IS -- THERE ARE ALL THESE LOTS THAT ARE NOT TAKEN CARE
OF BY PEOPLE WHO TORE DOWN HOMES SO THAT THEY COULD SELL THE
VACANT LOTS.
THEN THEY NEGLECT THE VACANT LOTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER
AGAIN, THE CITY HAS TO GO OUT, MOW THEM, PICK UP GARBAGE,
CLEAN UP AFTER THEM.
THAT IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS IS A PROBLEM.
WE HAVE GREAT DEVELOPERS IN THE CITY WHO DO SIDEWALKS EVERY
TIME THEY BUILD SOMETHING.
THEY DO THE STUFF THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.
THEY WORK AROUND TREES.
THEY FIGURE OUT SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS.
THEN DEVELOPERS WHO ARE LAZY AND WANT TO PAWN IT OFF ON THE
CITY AND THE CITIZENS.
WE PAY TAXES, YES, WE PAY THOSE, BUT WE NEED SIDEWALKS
AROUND SCHOOLS.
WE NEED SIDEWALKS IN LOTS AND LOTS OF PLACES, EVERY SINGLE
DAY.
I JUST SAT BACK THERE IN THE BACK ROW AND ANSWERED AN E-MAIL
FROM SOMEBODY WHO I NEVER MET BEFORE WHO CONTACTED THAN
BECAUSE THEY WANT SIDEWALKS.
WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO PAY FOR SIDEWALKS, THOSE THAT CAN'T

PUT A -- ARE NOT PAYING IN SQUAT.
LET'S GET OVER IT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR REALISTIC SITUATION.
290 LINEAR FEET ON COMMERCE STREET, WHICH IS WHERE WESTSHORE
TURNS TO GO TO PICNIC ISLAND.
300 TRUCKS EVERY SINGLE DAY DRIVE AROUND THAT CURVE.
BUT YET THE DEVELOPER WHO FILED A LIVE LOCAL, THEY CAN DO
WHATEVER THEY WANT SAID, OH, WE CAN'T PUT IN SIDEWALKS
THERE.
WHY NOT?
BECAUSE THEY KNOW, OH, YEAH, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO PAY WHATEVER
MR. MICHELINI SHOWED YOU FOR THEIR SIDEWALK, BUT WE HAVE TO
PAY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS MORE.
WHY DO WE GIFT THEM THEIR SIDEWALKS?
WHY WOULD YOU GIVE AWAY OUR TAX DOLLARS TO THESE PEOPLE
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO A HALF-ASSED JOB.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
THANK YOU.
10:04:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JASON ASHTON.
LINDA PONTICELLI.
ARE YOU LINDA PONTICELLI?
10:04:49AM >> YES.
SAME ITEM.
10:04:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU EACH GET THREE MINUTES.
10:04:54AM >> CAN I GO FIRST?

10:04:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
LINDA PONTICELLI.
10:05:01AM >> MY NAME IS LINDA PONTICELLI.
CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT.
I AM HERE TO PLEAD WITH YOU, ALONG WITH SOME OF MY
NEIGHBORS, FOR ASSISTANCE WITH MY RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS ALLEY
BETWEEN THE 800 BLOCK OF BRADDOCK AND ALFRED STREET.
WHEN MY NEW HOUSE WAS BEING BUILT, MY HUSBAND AND I WERE
INFORMED THAT ANY NEW BUILD WITH ALLEY ACCESS NEEDED TO HAVE
A GARAGE OFF THE ALLEY.
THAT WAS NOT OUR PREFERENCE DUE TO THE DIFFICULTIES AND
INCONVENIENCE, BUT WE LIKE THE LOT AND WERE LED TO BELIEVE
THE CITY WOULD PAVE IT LIKE ALL THE OTHER ALLEYS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ALLEY NORTH OF US WHICH CURRENTLY
HAS ONE GARAGE ACCESS.
THIS IS THE ALLEY SOUTH OF US, WHICH HAS TWO GARAGE
ACCESSES.
AND THIS IS OUR ALLEY WHICH CURRENTLY HAS EIGHT GARAGE
ACCESSES.
IF WE LIVED IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOME IN RURAL
FLORIDA, THIS COULD BE ACCEPTABLE, BUT WE LIVE IN A MILLION
DOLLAR HOME IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THIS IS HOW WE HAVE TO
ACCESS OUR HOUSE.
I'VE TRIED FOR 20 MONTHS TO HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA ADDRESS

THIS ISSUE.
I'VE CREATED TICKETS.
I'VE CALLED DEPARTMENTS AND I'VE GOTTEN NO RESPONSE.
WHEN WE FIRST MOVED INTO THE HOUSE, OUR ALLEY WAS ABOUT AN
INCH AND A HALF TO THE TOP OF OUR DRIVEWAY.
NOW IT'S ALMOST FOUR INCHES BECAUSE THIS IS ERODING DAILY
WITH ALL THE TRAFFIC.
THE CITY DID CREATE A SERVICE REQUEST, BUT I WAS INFORMED
THAT IT IS IN REFERRED STATUS WITH NO UPDATE FOR OUR
TIMELINE FOR THE WORK TO BE DONE.
I ALSO WANT TO SHOW YOU THE PROGRESSION OF THE EROSION.
SO THIS IS GOOGLE MAPS PICTURE OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE ALLEY
IN 2023.
NOT TOO BAD.
THEN THIS IS THE ENTRANCE IN DECEMBER OF 2024, AND THIS IS
IN MARCH 2025.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S RAPIDLY ERODING.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY MY HOME AND THE ONE NEXT DOOR TO ME WHICH
JASON LIVES IN WAS BUILT ON WHAT WAS A SINGLE LOT.
WE CURRENTLY PAY NEARLY FIVE TIMES THE PROPERTY TAXES OF THE
OWNERS OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THAT WAS ON OUR LOT.
BECAUSE WE FOLLOWED THE RULES, WE ARE THE ONES PAYING THE
PRICE.
IF YOU COULD SOMEHOW MAKE THIS A PRIORITY TO GIVE ME AND MY
IMMEDIATE ALLEY NEIGHBORS THE QUALITY OF LIFE MY OTHER

NEIGHBORS HAVE, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
10:07:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JASON ASHTON, ROBERT PONTICELLI.
CRYSTAL RICHARDSON, PASTOR WILLIAMS, MENTESNOT.
10:07:59AM >> LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR LISTENING TO US TODAY.
10:08:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
10:08:04AM >> JASON ASHTON.
JUST FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT LINDA SAID.
IF WE WERE IN THE SITUATION ORIGINALLY, WE WOULD HAVE ALL
OPTED TO HAVE THE GARAGES IN THE FRONT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED AND WE HAVE, I
THINK, EIGHT HOMES UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON OUR STREET RIGHT
NOW.
THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ON THE SAME SIDE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY
TO PUT IN DRIVEWAYS AND GARAGES IN THE FRONT.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THEIR VISIBILITY OR THE AESTHETICS OF THE
ALLEY WAY LOOKS LIKE.
THE TRUCKS DOING THE BUILDING ARE COMING AND GOING EVERY
DAY, AS A RESULT, THE ALLEY WAY IS CONTINUING TO ERODE,
CONTINUING TO SINK AND JUST CAUSING ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS.
IF THIS WAS AN AESTHETIC ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY, A DIFFERENT
CONVERSATION, PROBABLY NOT HERE, BUT THIS IS MORE A SAFETY
ISSUE.
IN ADDITION TO BEING A PROBLEM FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, AS LINDA
REFERENCED, OUR TAX LIABILITIES HAVE GONE UP CONSIDERABLY.

AS A RESULT, WE'RE NOT GETTING WHAT I WOULD THINK IS DAY ONE
MAINTENANCE OR ACCESS FOR THIS ALLEY WAY.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, I HAVE A TODDLER, A
THREE-YEAR-OLD.
EVERY TIME I OPEN THE GARAGE I'M HORRIFIED BECAUSE ANYBODY
WHO HAS A TODDLER, THEY LIKE TO MOVE FAST.
TRYING TO KEEP UP AND TRYING TO GET HIM TO LOOK BOTH WAYS IS
IMPOSSIBLE WITH THESE LARGE TRUCKS COMING AND GOING.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR WHAT WE WERE TOLD ORIGINALLY THAT
THIS WAS GOING TO BE A MAINTAINED ACCESS ROAD, MAINTAINED
ALLEY WAY, AND TO HAVE THIS THING PAVED, NOT SURE IF WE HAVE
THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, BUT IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO WORK WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF MOBILITY TO ACCESS SOME OF THE FUNDS AND
GET A BASIC PAVING JOB, IF NOT DOING IT THE CORRECT WAY, IT
WOULD BE NOT ONLY BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY.
BECAUSE AS CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE EROSION, AS LINDA POINTED
OUT, IN JUST A YEAR, YOU'VE GOT CONSIDERABLE EROSION.
THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM.
BECAUSE IT IS CITY PROPERTY, IT'S GOING TO FALL BACK ON THE
CITY, NOT TO MENTION OUR HOMES ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUED AT
RISK AS THIS CONTINUES.
ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO FIND THE FUNDS WOULD BE GREATLY
APPRECIATED, HELPFUL.
AS FAR AS I THINK A LOT OF US ARE CONCERNED, IT SHOULD

HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD WHEN WE WERE
BUILDING ORIGINALLY.
WE WOULD NEVER OPTED TO HAVE A DETACHED GARAGE.
10:10:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHIEF BENNETT, WOULD YOU GET THEIR
INFORMATION BEFORE THEY LEAVE?
VERY GOOD.
ROBERT PONTICELLI, CRYSTAL RICHARDSON, PASTOR FRANK
WILLIAMS.
10:10:45AM >> MY NAME IS ROBERT PONTICELLI.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN TAMPA FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS,
DESPITE MY ACCENT, WE'VE BEEN HERE AND CONSIDER TAMPA OUR
HOME.
WE'VE OWNED NINE PROPERTIES IN SOUTH HOWARD AREA AND IN THE
CHANNEL DISTRICT DURING THAT TIME.
NINE PROPERTIES.
SOME AS INVESTMENTS, SOME WE'VE LIVED AT.
WE RECENTLY MOVED TO THE RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND
BUILT THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
JUST TO MAYBE ADD A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS, ON OUR BLACK THAT
FACES THE ALLEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THERE ARE 11 TOTAL
HOMES.
SIX OF THEM WILL HAVE A BUILD DATE OF 2023 OR NEWER.
SO THERE'S FOUR UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, BUT SIX, THE ENTIRE
RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS AREA, MY WIFE AND I EXERCISE AND WE'LL JOG
AND WALK DAILY, I DON'T THINK THERE'S 6 OF 11 ON ONE SIDE OF

THE STREET ANYWHERE ELSE IN RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REALLY BUSY, A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW HOMES GOING.
AS I THINK MY WIFE POINTED OUT, THAT'S GOOD FROM A REVENUE
STANDPOINT, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT MAYBE YOU CAN HELP FOLKS
AND FIND US SOME MONEY FOR THIS.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD IS WITH ALL THE NEW BUILDINGS
THAT ARE GOING, EVEN THE ONES WITH THE FRONT FACING THE --
THE NEW HOMES WITH THE FRONT-FACING GARAGES, WE HAVE TWO OF
THE NEW ONES AND ONE OF THE EXISTING ONES HAVE AN ADU UNIT
WHICH IS ON THE BACK.
I'M GUESSING THAT THE ACCESS POINT, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW,
STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, IS GOING TO BE THROUGH THIS ALLEY.
WE'RE THINKING THERE'S GOING TO BE A HEIGHTENED INCREASED
LEVEL OF TRAFFIC.
ALSO, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS REALLY CHANGING.
MOST OF THE HOMES WHEN WE MOVED THERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO
WENT IN THE THREE AND FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR RANGE.
RIGHT NOW, OUR HOME WAS NEARLY A MILLION WHEN WE FINISHED
IT.
THE CHEAP HOMES ARE LIKE A MILLION TWO.
THE HOME DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US ON THE 800 BLOCK
OF BRADDOCK JUST SOLD FOR $2.4 MILLION.
A HOME ON ADDERLEY THIS WEEK, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK NORTH OF
US, JUST CLOSED FOR 1.4 MILLION.

IT'S REALLY TRANSITIONING FROM WHAT MAY HAVE LOOKED LIKE A
MIDDLE-CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD MAYBE 20, 30, 40 YEARS AGO, IT'S
BECOMING LIKE AN UPSCALE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S KIND OF UNIQUE.
THE OTHER THING I'D SAY, WE WERE THERE BUILDING OUR HOUSE.
WE DIDN'T BUY IT PREBUILT.
THE HOME NEXT DOOR WHERE JASON LIVES WAS BEING PREBUILT.
I HAD AT LEAST HALF A DOZEN PEOPLE THAT WERE LOOKING AT THAT
HOUSE.
MY WIFE AND I ARE OUTSIDE WORKING A LOT IN OUR YARD, CAME TO
US AND HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
WE TRIED TO BE POSITIVE ON IT.
AT LEAST SIX OF THEM SAID THEY COULDN'T PUT AN OFFER, EVEN
THOUGH THEY LOVED THE HOUSE BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE ALLEY.
WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT OUR PROPERTY VALUE.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S TRANSITION.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE BECOME QUITE EMBARRASSED WHEN WE HAVE THE
SITTERS COME BECAUSE THEY COME AND LOOK, OH, GEEZ, YOU HAVE
A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, WHEN ARE YOU FINISHING OUT BACK?
IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT, AND WE'RE HOPING WITH ALL THE
NEW BUILD, MORE MONEY --
10:14:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
CRYSTAL RICHARDSON, PASTOR WILLIAMS, MENTESNOT.
THE FINAL SPEAKER IS ROBIN LOCKETT.

10:14:28AM >> CRYSTAL RICHARDSON.
TO PIGGYBACK ON THE LAST THREE, SAME SUBJECT, I AM A NATIVE
OF TAMPA, BORN AND RAISED, A LOCAL REAL ESTATE AGENT.
THE DEVELOPERS THAT HE WAS JUST SPEAKING ABOUT ON ADDERLEY,
WE ACTUALLY REPRESENT THOSE SALES, SO VERY FAMILIAR WITH
RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS AND THE GROWTH THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS.
THEY HAVE LIVED HERE FOR MUCH LONGER.
WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE THIS PAST DECEMBER, AND WE BOUGHT IT
BECAUSE OF THE INVESTMENT FOR THE MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE AND
HAVING THAT AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL WHICH OUR PARKING IS ALL
THROUGH THE BACK.
WE'RE FIXING UP OUR SECTION BY PUTTING MULCH IN AND MAKING
IT NICE AND FEASIBLE AS A PARKING AREA, BUT THE DRIVE IN
FROM EITHER END, I HAVE A LOW VEHICLE THAT I WILL NOT DRIVE
DOWN THAT ALLEY WAY BECAUSE OF THE POTHOLES.
I THINK OUR SECTION IS PROBABLY THE WORST OF THE AREA.
AS SHE SHOWED EARLIER, YOU HAVE ASPHALT ON BOTH ENDS.
AGAIN, IT REALLY IS BECOMING AN ACTUAL ISSUE.
WE HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION ON BOTH SIDES.
THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS, THERE'S CONCRETE BEING POURED
TODAY.
IT'S GETTING OUT OF CONTROL TO BE HONEST.
I WALK MY DOG DOWN EVERY DAY AND I HAVE TO GET A FRESH PAIR
OF WHITE SNEAKERS EVERY TIME BECAUSE IT IS A DISASTER.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION.

THERE ARE MORE NEIGHBORS MOVING INTO THE STREET.
THERE ARE 20 PROPERTIES THAT SHARE THE ALLEY.
MORE THAN HALF HAVE DRIVEWAY ACCESS.
THEY ARE ALL IN TRUCKS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE CARS ARE NOT DOING WELL.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION.
THANK YOU.
10:16:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PASTOR WILLIAMS.
10:16:12AM >> UHURU, MENTESNOT.
INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
IF YOU ARE ALSO RICH AND WEALTHY AND YOU ALL GOT THESE HOMES
AND WHO LIVING IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOME WHATEVER,
WHATEVER, DOESN'T DESERVE CITY SERVICES, WHY DON'T YOU BAND
TOGETHER AND FIX YOUR OWN HOMES, FIX YOUR OWN STREET.
I FIX THINGS AROUND MY HOME AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE TIME
AND I'M NOT THAT RICH.
ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED.
WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS NONE OF THAT STUPIDNESS.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT.
YEAH, THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, STATE OF FLORIDA,
AND OTHER CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT INTRICATELY
INTERCONNECTED ENTITIES ARE USING THE FEDERALLY AND/OR
PRIVATELY FUNDED TITLE 4 CHILD SUPPORT PROGRAM FOR

FINANCIALLY INCENTIVIZED PURPOSES BEYOND CHILD SUPPORT
ENFORCEMENT, COLLECTION, RECOVERY, DISTRIBUTION, SANCTION
AND PUNISHMENT.
SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVE PURPOSES OF THE CHILD SUPPORT
PROGRAM APPEARS TO BE LOW-LEVEL EUGENICS, ETHNIC CLEANSING,
POPULATION CONTROL, REPRODUCTION DETERRENT, SELF-INDUCED
NEGRO GENOCIDE BY MEANS OF AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN UTILIZING
LEGALIZED ABORTION OPTIONS AT A RATE FIVE TIMES HIGHER THAN
THAT OF NORTH AMERICANS, OR WHITE WOMEN, SLOW NEGRO
GENOCIDE, RACIAL SKIN COLOR DISCRIMINATION, RIGHTS
VIOLATIONS, REINSTITUTION OF VARIOUS FORMS OF CHATTEL
SLAVERY, INDENTURED SERVITUDE, DEBTOR'S PRISONS, BLACK
CODES, JIM CROW LAWS, GRANDFATHER CLAUSES, KU KLUX KLAN,
DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY, BLACK LEGION, SHARE CROPPING,
PEONAGE, CONVICT LEASING, BLACK DESIGNER LAWS, AND ACTIVE
PARTICIPATION IN THE MODERN DAY PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
CRIMINALIZATION OF POVERTY AND THE TITLE 4 WING OF THE --
THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION.
THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION TITLE 4, FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM ARE
PRIME CANDIDATES FOR CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT
PROGRAM ALONG WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA OFFICE OF THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL, CLERKS OF COURT, CHIEF JUDGES, INDIVIDUAL
TRIBUNAL JUDGES, HEARING OFFICERS, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY

GENERALS AND ANY -- OPERATES WITH A DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE AND
CERTAINTY, ABSOLUTELY AND POSITIVELY NOTHING THAT ANY POOR
AND WORKING CLASS DEADBEAT PARENT CAN POSSIBLY DO ABOUT
THEIR FAMILY RIGHTS BEING VIOLATED.
DOR BLATANT RIGHTS VIOLATION, ESPECIALLY IF MOST OF THOSE
VIOLATED INDIVIDUALS, RESPONDENTS WERE NOT REPRESENTED BY
LEGAL COUNSEL.
THUS, GREATER POSSIBILITY THAT IF ANY LEGAL CONTRADICTION
UNCOVERED IN THE FUTURE WITHIN THE CHILD SUPPORT
ADMINISTRATIVE OR JUDICIAL CHILD SUPPORT CASES, NEWLY
DISCOVERED VIOLATIONS, IRRESPECTIVE OF HOW GROSS, MINIMAL
EFFECT ON ANY DECISIONS THE COURT ORDERS AND BARRED BY
STATUTORY TIME LIMITATIONS.
10:19:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
PASTOR WILLIAMS.
10:19:39AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS, LOCATED -- I WAS LOCATED
ON 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET -- PURCHASE MY CHURCH AND -- TRY
TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR ME.
CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, I THOUGHT I WAS.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I GOT THIS IN THE MAIL.
TALKING ABOUT WEST TAMPA INSTEAD OF EAST TAMPA.
EAST TAMPA FUTURE.
I'LL READ IT TO YOU.

EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT CRA IS UPDATING THE
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WE NEED YOUR INPUT.
THEY MUST BE TALKING ABOUT WEST TAMPA.
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US IN EAST TAMPA.
WE JUST LIVE AND DIE.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE PEOPLE OF
EAST TAMPA IS WHAT THEY DOING FOR PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA.
THE MAYOR PUTS SO MUCH MONEY IN HER BUDGET FOR WEST TAMPA,
BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
IN EAST TAMPA SHE WON'T PUT A DAMN THING IN THERE.
JACKSON HOUSE AROUND THERE.
IT AIN'T GOT THE FIRST CITATION.
LET THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, TEAR IT DOWN.
BUILD SOME NICE HOMES FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE, BUT WE DON'T
CARE.
PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO PUT OUT MONEY LIKE YOU ALL ARE, DON'T
HEAR NOTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE CITIZENS AND WE ARE HUMAN
BEINGS UNDER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND WE SHOULD BE
RESPECTED, WHETHER YOU ALL LIKE IT OR NOT.
GOD IS THE ONE THAT CREATED, AND HE DID A GOOD JOB OF
CREATING, BECAUSE DO LOOK LIKE A HUMAN BEING.
AT LEAST WE AIN'T CRAWLING AROUND LIKE NO RAT.
WE HAVE TO THANK GOD HAZY CREATION AND GIVE HIM ALL THE
PRAISES AND THE GLORY.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR -- WE'RE NOT TRY TO BE HARD ON
YOU BUT YOU ARE HARD ON US.
DON'T WANT TO DO NOTHING FOR US.
EVERYTHING GOING TO WORK OUT IN OUR FAVOR.
MS. JOHNSON, SHE IS A GOOD PERSON.
SHE TREATS ME ROYALLY.
I THANK GOD FOR HER.
10:22:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MS. ROBIN LOCKETT.
GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:23:00AM >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
GOOD MORNING.
FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE HURRICANE
RELIEF PROGRAM LAUNCHED THIS WEEK, $3.2 MILLION TO HELP
CITIZENS THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THE HURRICANE.
I'M HAPPY THAT THAT IS UP AND GOING.
SECOND OF ALL, THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT
SIDEWALKS TODAY.
WE HAVE TO RESOLVE IT.
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING
AND WE HAVE CONTROL OVER, INCLUDING WHETHER A BUILDER DOES
XYZ.
WE DO NEED SIDEWALKS.
SCHOOLS NEED SIDEWALKS.
ALL THESE LARGE SUBDIVISIONS ARE GOING UP AND NO SIDEWALKS.

SO THAT SHOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC THING WHEN WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT ALL OF THIS BUILDING THAT WE ARE ALLOWING TO HAPPEN IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I'M STILL TALKING ABOUT THE YELLOW JACKETS.
I WANT THE YELLOW JACKETS TO BE MADE WHOLE.
WHOLE IS IF THEY HAD TWO FIELDS IN WEST TAMPA AND A
BUILDING, THEY SHOULD HAVE TWO FIELDS ACROSS FROM THAT
CEMETERY AND A BUILDING.
THEY HAD A CONCESSION STAND AND A BUILDING.
THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
I'M JUST MAKING IT REAL CLEAR.
IN REGARDS TO THE COSMETIC THINGS, BECAUSE I DRIVE BY THERE
AND I SEE THEY ARE DOING THINGS, BUT WE WANT A BUILDING.
MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE WANTS HIS BUILDING BACK.
THAT'S MAKING IT WHOLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD AT THE
PRIOR FIELD.
SO WHATEVER HAS TO BE DONE AND IF HE'S DOING HAND SHAKES
BECAUSE HE TRUSTED THE ADMINISTRATION PRIOR TO YOU GUYS,
THAT HAND SHAKE IS SAYING -- I HEARD THEM SAY IN MEETINGS
THAT WE'LL MAKE THE YELLOW JACKETS WHOLE.
THAT'S WHAT WHOLE MEANS TO US, THAT THEY HAVE A WORKING
CONCESSION STAND AND A BUILDING OR YOU COULD PUT THE
BUILDING, THEIR OFFICES ON TOP OF THAT CONCESSION STAND, BUT
THEY WANT A BUILDING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:25:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT CON CLUES PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'LL NOW GO TO ANY REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR
RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
I SEE NO ONE.
LET'S GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY, 4-10.
10:25:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO MOVE.
10:25:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
AFFAIRS.
10:25:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BEFORE I MOVE, I WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM 13,
WHICH IS THE $103,000 FROM THE NCAA NONPROFIT ASSOCIATION
FOR THE BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT THAT'S COMING HERE.
THEY ARE GOING TO UPGRADE THE EQUIPMENT AT THE FORMER BOYS
AND GIRLS CLUB.
CALLED THE RIVERFRONT RECREATION CENTER AT 1301 NORTH
BOULEVARD ALONG WITH THE DECOR OF THE 2025 WOMEN'S FINAL
FOUR BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT.
SO EXCITED TO BE WELCOMING THEM TO TOWN.
MOVE ITEMS 11-25 FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

10:26:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:26:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I MOVE ITEMS 26-47.
10:26:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:26:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEMS 48-51.
10:26:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:26:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MOVE 52-70.
10:26:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?

COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, MOBILITY AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
10:26:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE ITEMS 71-74.
10:26:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM
VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
CAN WE GET A MOTION TO MOVE 93 AND 94?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE NEED TO SET A FEW ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING, 75, 76, 77.
10:27:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
10:27:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA
SETTING 75, 76, 77, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
WE'LL GO TO SECOND READINGS.
LET'S GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:27:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SEE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS FROM THE STRAZ,

DO YOU WANT TO --
10:27:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE STRAZ IS ALL SET, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON 78 THROUGH 87, PLEASE STAND,
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:28:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL START WITH ITEM 78.
MS. JOHNSON VELEZ.
NO.
SIR, COME ON UP.
10:28:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CARL BRODY FROM LEGAL.
TODAY, WE HAVE SECOND READING FOR THE EVENT ZONE FOR THE
WOMEN'S FINAL FOUR.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE.
10:28:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
SPEAK ON ITEM 78?
I SEE NO ONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING 78?
10:28:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MOVE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THIS IS THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN AMERICA, I THINK,

WOMEN'S BASKETBALL.
THEY TURNED THIS AROUND.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE DESIGNATING A PORTION OF TAMPA AS AN EVENT ZONE
IN ORDER TO REGULATE ACTIVITIES FROM APRIL 2, 2025, THROUGH
APRIL 7, 2025 IN PREPARATION FOR HOSTING THE 2025 NCAA
WOMEN'S FINAL FOUR; DESIGNATING GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES, DATES
AND TIMES FOR THE EVENT ZONE; REGULATING AND PROHIBITING
TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, TENTS, SIGNAGE AND COMMERCIAL
PROMOTION IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY; PROVIDING FOR INSPECTIONS AND
PERMITS; PROVIDING FOR FIRST AMENDMENT ZONES; PROVIDING FOR
PENALTIES; PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; REPEALING CONFLICTS; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:29:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:29:39AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:29:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I SEE YOU WERE
ABSENT AT VOTE FOR 79 AND A FEW OTHERS.
WERE YOU ABLE TO REVIEW THE RECORD?
10:29:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
THIS WAS A DAY I HAD A MANDATORY MEETING FOR A FIELD TRIP
FOR MY SON.
YES.

10:30:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 79.
YES, MA'AM.
10:30:05AM >> EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE HERE FOR SECOND READING OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT
WAS ACTUALLY PRESENTED IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL'S MOTION
AMENDING 15-104 TO INCLUDE THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD AREA INTO
THE PERMIT PARKING ZONES.
HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR FIRST READING.
IN CASE YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND.
10:30:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT?
YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
10:30:41AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I WANT TO KNOW WHEN THERE WERE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS
ABOUT THESE CHANGES.
I HADN'T SEEN THEM.
NOBODY I KNOW OF HAS SEEN THEM.
10:30:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?

COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:31:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
RELATING TO CHAPTER 15, PARKING, ARTICLE II, REGULATIONS,
PERMIT, PENALTIES, AMENDING SECTION 15-104 RESIDENTIAL
PARKING PERMIT ONLY AREA, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH,
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:31:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION BY VIERA, SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:31:33AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:31:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE CAN OPEN THE 10:30 A.M. PETITION.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
I BELIEVE WE HAD A COUPLE NEW PEOPLE WALK IN.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM BETWEEN 80 AND 88 AND
HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT
HAND.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:32:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT COVERS EVERYBODY.
ITEM NUMBER 80.
GO AHEAD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:32:14AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 80 IS REZ 24-45, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 3807 AND 3811 SWANN AVENUE.
REQUEST IS REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT ALLOWING FOR RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
USES.
THIS IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:32:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY APPLICANT FOR ITEM
NUMBER 80?
MR. MECHANIK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:32:50AM >> MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
APPLICANT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:32:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
GENTLEMAN?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 80?
YES, SIR, COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:33:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
KYLE ROSS.
I'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU ONCE BEFORE ON THIS ISSUE.
I'M ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY ABUTTING THIS PROJECT AND

ONE OF THE TOWNHOME OWNERS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS
PROJECT.
WE LEFT THE LAST MEETING WHERE I SPOKE AND MULTIPLE OTHERS
ABOUT MOVING THE DUMPSTER FROM THE NORTHWEST CORNER WHERE IT
WAS ABUTTING AGAINST THREE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, MOVE IT TO
THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
MR. MIRANDA, YOU HAD A VERY CLEAR DIRECTIVE, MOVE THE
DUMPSTER TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
I'M SHOCKED BECAUSE I WENT ONLINE AND I LOOKED AT THEIR
PLANS, IT WAS MOVED.
IT WAS MOVED FROM THE NORTHEAST -- EXCUSE ME, THE NORTHWEST
CORNER TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
NOW THIS DUMPSTER IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST THING THAT PEOPLE
SEE WHEN THEY ARE DRIVING DOWN SWANN AVENUE.
I WAS SHOCKED TO THINK THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH DOING THAT,
TO THINK WE WOULDN'T CHECK THE PLANS, THINK THEY COULD PULL
THE WOOL OVER THE EYES OF ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO
DO THAT.
I THINK IT IS A SYMPTOM OF A BIGGER PROBLEM HERE.
THEY DON'T HAVE RESPECT FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE
BARGING INTO.
I WANT TO REMIND THE PANEL THAT IN 2021, DAVID WEEKLY, THEY
BUILT THREE TOWNHOMES ON THE SAME SIZE PLOT OF LAND WHERE
THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD 12 UNITS.
TOO MUCH ON TOO LITTLE PROPERTY.

THEY CAME IN HERE LAST TIME, I RAN OUT OF TIME WHEN I WAS
TRYING TO SPEAK HOW THEY DIDN'T NEED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THEY NEED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST BOTTLENECKS OF TRAFFIC IN THE
ENTIRE CITY, IF NOT THE WORST.
WHEN IT IS BLOCKED UP ON WEEKENDS ESPECIALLY, TRADER JOE'S,
GRIDLOCK FROM DALE MABRY TO CLARK, CONSTANTLY PEOPLE DRIVING
ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD RECKLESSLY TO AVOID THAT
TRAFFIC.
HERE ARE PHOTOS OF IT.
HERE IS A PHOTO FROM ABC ACTION NEWS BASICALLY STANDING IN
MY DRIVEWAY TALKING ABOUT IT.
HERE IS A PHOTO I TOOK FROM MY BALCONY SHOWING THAT
GRIDLOCK.
THAT IS REGULAR GRIDLOCK.
THEY ABSOLUTELY NEED TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY.
DON'T LET THEM DO A FAST ONE LIKE THEY ARE DOING WITH THE
DUMPSTER AND SAY THEY DON'T NEED TO DO A STUDY FOR TRAFFIC.
BIG PROJECT, BIG STRAW.
IT MIGHT BREAK THE CAMEL'S BACK.
10:35:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
COME ON UP.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN?
10:35:37AM >> STEVEN ALT, 3815 WEST SWANN.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT KYLE SAID.
THE AGREEMENT WAS TO MOVE THAT DUMPSTER TO THE EAST SIDE.
I THINK THE AGREEMENT WAS SPECIFICALLY TO MOVE IT TO THE
REAR, THE REAR OF THE EAST SIDE ABUTTING THE COMMERCIAL
PROPERTIES.
AND ANOTHER DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE THAT'S THERE FOR THE
BUSINESSES, THE BAGEL SHOP AND THE SMOOTHIE SHOP AND BURGER
KING THAT'S THERE AND PUTTING ALL THE DUMPSTERS TOGETHER IN
THE CORNER.
PURE SPECULATION IS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY BEHIND
THAT, RIGHT BEHIND THIS OWNED BY THE SAME GROUP THAT THEY
ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP AND THEY DON'T WANT THE DUMPSTER NEAR
THAT PROPERTY TO LOWER THAT PROPERTY VALUE.
THAT'S MY SPECULATION.
WHETHER TRUE OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
THE AGREEMENT WE ALL LEFT WITH AT THE LAST MEETING IS THE
DUMPSTER WAS GOING TO BE IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THAT
PROPERTY.
THANK YOU.
10:36:36AM >> RYAN CANALIS, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ENOUGH HAS BEEN SAID ON IT.
WE RECONVENED HERE TO REVISIT THE SAME THING.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE AND BORDER LINE INSULTING IF, IN FACT, THAT
DUMPSTER WASN'T MOVED TO THE CORRECT POSITION.
I WOULD LIKE US ALL TO GET BACK TO WHAT WE AGREED ON.

IF NOT ALREADY, I'M SURE THEY WILL STATE THEIR CASE.
I DID RUN A QUICK SEARCH.
NOT A PROPERTY GOOGLE EXPERT, BUT I DID SEE THE SAME NAME ON
THE PROPERTY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE THAT IS AN OPEN LOT.
ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING.
I HOPE THEY HAVE GOOD, SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS THERE, BUT I ALSO
HOPE THEY DO IT BY RESPECTING THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING
THEM.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
10:37:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WHO WILL GO FIRST.
OKAY, SIR, AND MS. POYNOR.
10:37:44AM >> TRAE WEINGARDT, 4119 WEST LEONA STREET.
A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT HERE.
THIS PROPERTY AS CURRENTLY ZONED IS ALSO PERMITTED FOR
14,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
MR. COHEN HAS ACTUALLY DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THIS
PROPERTY --
10:38:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE YOU PART OF THE APPLICANT?
10:38:08AM >> I'M THE SON-IN-LAW OF THE APPLICANT.
10:38:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT AS PART OF REBUTTAL BECAUSE YOU ARE
CONNECTED TO IT.
MS. POYNOR, YOU WILL BE THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER AND

THEN REBUTTAL.
10:38:23AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I NEED TO ASK ONE SIMPLE QUESTION.
WHY DO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA NEED TO LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE'S
GARBAGE?
WHY WOULD YOU PUT IT ON THE CORNER?
IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE CORNER.
I WAS HERE FOR THE LAST HEARING, AND THESE FOLKS SAID THEY
WOULD PUT IT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY, YOU'RE UNDER OATH WHEN YOU STAND UP
HERE.
THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
OH, GUESS WHAT, JUST BECAUSE YOU MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
DOESN'T MEAN YOU LISTEN AND THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE.
THANK YOU.
10:39:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. MECHANIK, YOU HAVE REBUTTAL HERE.
MY QUESTION, AS YOU'VE HEARD REGARDING THE MOVEMENT OF THIS
DUMPSTER, JUDGING FROM WHAT WAS SHOWN HERE, IS THAT DUMPSTER
NOW ALONG SWANN AVENUE?
10:39:17AM >> THIS IS DAVID MECHANIK, TO THE APPLICANT.
WE FILED A PLAN.
I WOULD ASK YOUR STAFF TO CONFIRM THIS.
WE MOVED THE DUMPSTER TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER.

I HAVE THE SITE PLAN.
I'M GOING TO PUT IT ON THE ELMO.
THE DUMPSTER WAS ORIGINALLY ON THIS CORNER.
WE MOVED IT OVER HERE, WHICH IS AS FAR INTO THE CORNER WE
COULD GET.
THERE'S DRAINAGE AT THE EXACT CORNER, BUT IT'S EXACTLY WHERE
WE WERE TOLD TO PUT IT.
10:39:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN WE REFRAIN FROM CONVERSATIONS IN THE
BACK AND THROUGHOUT THE ROOM?
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YES, SIR.
10:40:00AM >> CAN THE STAFF CONFIRM WE PUT THE DUMPSTER WHERE I JUST
SAID IT?
10:40:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT HAS BEEN
FILED --
10:40:08AM >> WHAT I HAVE ON THE ELMO IS WHAT WAS FILED.
10:40:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHERE DID THE PUBLIC GET THE INFORMATION
THAT THE DUMPSTER WAS FACING --
10:40:17AM >> I HAVE NO IDEA.
10:40:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT IS IN THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF WHAT
WE'RE VOTING ON NOW?
10:40:22AM >> I PUT THAT ON THE ELMO.
10:40:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT TO CONFIRM WITH STAFF SO THE
PUBLIC KNOWS AND WE CAN SEE IT.

10:40:28AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU ARE VOTING ON TODAY.
THE APPLICANT DID COMPLY WITH COUNCIL'S REQUEST AND MOVE THE
DUMPSTER TO THIS LOCATION IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER.
WHEN IT COMES TO SECOND READINGS, THE APPLICANT PROVIDES
FOUR HARD COPIES.
THOSE ARE THEN CERTIFIED BY STAFF AND THEN BROUGHT TO THE
CLERK.
THOSE AREN'T NECESSARILY UPLOADED TO ACCELA.
ONCE CERTIFIED BY THE COUNCIL CHAIR, WE ARE SCANNING THEM IN
AND UPLOADING TO THE ACCELA RECORD.
SO THE PLAN THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, IS A PLAN, AN
ITERATION WELL IN THE PAST BEFORE DRC.
THAT IS A VERY OLD PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN BY THE PUBLIC.
10:41:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHOULD THIS GET APPROVAL TODAY, BEING
THAT I HAVE TO SIGN THE SITE PLAN AFTER THE FACT, I'M GOING
TO SEE THIS DUMPSTER IN THIS LOCATION AS YOU'RE SHOWING NOW,
NOT WHAT THE PUBLIC HAD TOLD ME.
AND JUST TO CONFIRM, ANY WAY AFTER WE VOTE THAT THEY CAN
CHANGE ANYTHING.
ARE THEY BY LAW ON RECORD AND UNDER OATH HAVE TO OBLIGE WHAT
WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW WHERE THE DUMPSTER IS IN THE
NORTHEAST CORNER.
10:41:32AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
YES, SIR.
THIS WILL BE THE PLAN OF RECORD.

THE PLAN BEHOLDEN TO BUILD TO.
10:41:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO WAY TO CIRCUMVENT IT AFTER THE FACT?
10:41:40AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO MOVE THE DUMPSTER ANYWHERE ELSE WOULD
NOT BE APPROVED.
10:41:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND HENDERSON.
10:41:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
GO AHEAD.
YOU SAID MY NAME SECOND.
SORRY.
10:41:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S OKAY.
QUESTION.
I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES.
DO YOU HAVE THE SITE PLAN THAT CAME AT THE FIRST READING?
AND WHAT OTHER CHANGES WERE MADE TO THAT SITE PLAN BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING?
10:42:06AM >> WELL, THE CHANGES WERE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND WE
MADE ALL OF THE STAFF CHANGES.
10:42:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID YOU ELIMINATE ONE TOWN HOUSE?
10:42:15AM >> NO, WE DID NOT.
10:42:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE DIMENSIONS OF
THE TOWN HOUSES?
10:42:22AM >> NO.
10:42:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE ONLY CHANGES WERE THE RELOCATION.

YOU DID SOME VISITOR PARKING CHANGES?
10:42:26AM >> NO, NO CHANGES TO THE PARKING.
THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE WORDING OF THE NOTES AND THE
WAIVER.
THAT'S ALL.
10:42:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. THOMAS, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:42:36AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, YES, THAT'S
CORRECT.
APPLICANT MADE ALL THE REVISIONS SUPPOSED TO BE MADE ON THE
REVISION SHEET IN ADDITION TO MOVING THE DUMPSTER LIKE
COUNCIL REQUESTED.
10:42:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STILL GO ON THE RECORD AS TO MY OBJECTION
IN FIRST READING.
WHEN ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS PUT THE OVERHEAD OF THIS STREET,
EVERY ONE OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED HOUSES OR
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ALL ARE FORWARD FACING TO SWANN.
ALL THE DOORS FACE SWANN.
IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET.
I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC ISSUE BECAUSE THE
TRAFFIC ISSUE IS CREATED BY THE MISTAKE OF PUTTING THE
SUPERMARKET WHERE IT IS.
THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CREATED THAT PROBLEM.
THE FACT THAT THIS PARCEL IS ZONED TO HAVE AN OFFICE
BUILDING, THE REASON THEY ARE NOT BUILDING OFFICE BUILDING
IS THE MARKET HAS CHANGED.

OFFICE CAPACITIES HAVE PLUMMETED.
THAT IS THE REASON THEY ARE CHANGING TO A DIFFERENT MARKET.
BUT THE APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOR THIS, OBVIOUSLY,
SHOULD IT BE FORWARD FACING EITHER DETACHED OR ATTACHED
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, FORWARD FACING SWANN TO MIX THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
YOU'RE PUTTING ALLEY-STYLE HOMES, ISOLATED FROM THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST TO SQUEEZE WHAT WAS TWO AND A HALF LOTS,
MAYBE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE IF YOU BUILD HOUSES HERE.
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, MAYBE JUST TWO.
THE APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, AGAIN, I CAN'T GET PAST
THIS.
WE BUILD ON THESE THINGS TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
WE LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THESE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT
TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE FOLKS INVESTED IN THEIR HOMES, TO
THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY AND TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THIS
PROPERTY, THEY ALL INVESTED IN A SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED,
DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN,
AND WE ARE DRAMATICALLY CHANGING THAT DEVELOPMENT IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD THEY HAVE SINGLE-MOST PROBABLY HIGHEST
INVESTMENT THEY'LL EVER HAVE IN THEIR LIFE.
10:44:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
10:44:42AM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, AM I ALLOWED TO FINISH MY REBUTTAL?

10:44:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OF COURSE.
YEAH, YOU HAVE TIME.
GO AHEAD.
10:44:49AM >> YEAH, I THINK I ONLY SPOKE FOR ABOUT THREE MINUTES.
10:44:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REBUTTALS ARE FIVE MINUTES.
10:44:56AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC.
FIRST OF ALL, WHATEVER CONGESTION IS OUT THERE WAS PERMITTED
BY THE CITY BEFORE WE EVER CAME ON THE SCENE.
WE DON'T GENERATE ONE CAR TODAY ON THAT PROPERTY.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND COUNCIL, THIS IS THE TRAFFIC
ANALYSIS THAT WE SUBMITTED PREVIOUSLY.
THE BLUE BAR REFLECTS THE USE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE
SITE, A DAY CARE CENTER.
THE RED BAR IS THE APPROVED OFFICE AND THE GREEN BAR IS WHAT
WE ARE PROPOSING TODAY.
WE ARE PROPOSING A SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC
FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AGAIN, MY CLIENT IS NOT GENERATING ANY OF THE PROBLEM.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THE CITY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO
ABOUT TRADER JOE'S.
I JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST.
DON'T DENY THIS ZONING APPLICATION BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH TRADER JOE'S.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE MY REBUTTAL.
THANK YOU.

10:46:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
ANYTHING ELSE?
IF NOT, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE.
NO, THAT'S DONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ?
10:46:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
I MOVE FILE REZ-24-45, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
3807 AND 3811 WEST SWANN AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:46:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:46:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO REITERATE MY NO VOTE BECAUSE OF
PRETTY MUCH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN SAID.
THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT FIT IN SCALE
AND SIZE AND TO THE REST OF THE STREET.
IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING.

IT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE NEED TO BE SEEING IN THE CITY.
10:47:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:47:22AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN AND HURTAK VOTING
NO.
10:47:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 81 IS NEXT.
10:47:35AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 81 IS REZ-24-70, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 3602 WEST AZEELE STREET.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT ALLOWING BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL
OFFICE USES.
VISIONS COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED TO THE
CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 81?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR 81?
THERE IS NO APPLICANT FOR 81.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 81?
THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 81.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:48:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE FILE REZ-24-70, AN ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3602 WEST
AZEELE STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATIONS PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, AND MEDICAL OFFICE,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:48:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:48:55AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:48:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 82, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:49:03AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER
DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
82 IS REZ-24-101.
IT IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8813
BROOKS STREET, 8901 NORTH 13th STREET AND 8814 NORTH
14th STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 TO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST.

THERE IS NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPLICATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:49:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
NO.
COME ON UP, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:49:40AM >> RYAN MANASSE WITH JOHNSON POPE, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT
AND PLANNING, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DIVISIVE, SUITE 3100.
I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
SHOULD YOU NOT HAVE ANY, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:49:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
NO.
ANYBODY HERE FOR ITEM 82 TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
10:50:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ-24-101, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 8813 BROOKS STREET, 8901
NORTH 13th STREET, AND 8814 NORTH 14th STREET, IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG, INDUSTRIAL

GENERAL, AND RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO IG,
INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:50:45AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:50:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 83.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:50:53AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 83 IS REZ-24-102.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
3604 TEMPLE STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 18.
THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST.
THERE ARE NO SITE PLANS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:51:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
I SEE NONE.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 83?
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 83?
I SEE NO ONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.

SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, 83.
10:51:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 83, FILE REZ-24-102, ORDINANCE
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3604 TEMPLE
STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RM-16, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO RM 18, RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:51:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:52:07AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:52:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM 84.
10:52:12AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 84 IS REZ-24-104.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
402 SOUTH OREGON AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 12 TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN

SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
RON WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND MYSELF ARE AVAILABLE IF
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
10:52:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 84.
10:52:40AM >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
WE WERE FOUND CONSISTENT BY ALL OF THE STAFF.
WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT WITH THIS, BUT WE'D APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 84?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:53:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 84, REZ-24-104, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
402 SOUTH OREGON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-12, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO

PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:53:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:53:37AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
10:53:42AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
10:53:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 85.
10:53:45AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
85 IS REZ 24-108.
REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2902 MELBURNE
BOULEVARD.
REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 AND COMMERCIAL
INTENSIVE TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
SINCE THIS IS EUCLIDEAN ZONING, THERE IS NO SITE PLAN.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:54:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
MR. PRESSMAN IS REGISTERED ONLINE.
IS HE ONLINE?
DID HE GET SWORN IN?
MR. PRESSMAN, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON, RAISE YOUR RIGHT
HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:54:19AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:54:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, TURN YOUR CAMERA ON AND WE'LL

SWEAR YOU IN.
WE'RE WAITING FOR YOUR IMAGE TO APPEAR.
10:54:37AM >> IT'S COMING UP.
10:54:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE WE GO.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:54:57AM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE
ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:55:02AM >> I DO.
10:55:02AM >>THE CLERK:
THANK YOU.
10:55:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
ANYTHING TO PRESENT ON 85?
10:55:07AM >> NO.
THIS REQUEST HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE.
HAD NO OPPOSITION.
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE SUPPORT OF COUNCIL OF UNANIMOUS
DECISION ON FIRST READING.
THANK YOU.
10:55:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 85?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM CLENDENIN.
SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, 85.

10:55:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 2902 MELBURNE BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 16 RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY AND CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO CG, COMMERCIAL
GENERAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:55:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:55:58AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:56:00AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:56:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT UP IS 86.
10:56:08AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 86 IS REZ 24-110, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 622 AND 642 WEST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
BOULEVARD AND 3912, 3915, AND 3917 NORTH BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO
COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
SINCE THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING THERE IS NO SITE PLAN.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:56:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
NO.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?

YES, SIR, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:56:39AM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
THIS IS A REVERSAL REMOVING A PD AND TAKING IT BACK TO
EUCLIDEAN ZONING.
IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED LAST TIME.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT.
10:56:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
I SEE NONE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 86?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, 86.
10:57:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
I MOVE FILE REZ 24-110, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 622 AND 642 WEST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING
JR. BOULEVARD AND 3912, 3915 AND 3917 NORTH BOULEVARD IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT TO CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND RS 50 RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:57:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER

HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:57:48AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:57:50AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:57:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ITEM NUMBER 87, OUR LAST REZONING.
10:57:55AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 87 IS REZ 25-19.
IT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3502 NORTH
LINCOLN AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
REVISIONS COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED TO THE
CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:58:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT HERE FOR 87?
NO.
10:58:23AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:58:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE ANYBODY --
10:58:29AM >> HELLO.
YES, I'M HERE.
10:58:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOU.
WE NEED TO SEE YOU ON VIDEO.

IS THAT CORRECT, MADAM CLERK?
10:58:39AM >> I DO NOT.
10:58:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK ON 87?
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WITH A MOTION TO CLOSE.
SECOND FROM VIERA.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, READ THIS?
10:58:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REZ 25-19, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
3502 NORTH LINCOLN AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RS 50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO
PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:59:20AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

10:59:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 88 IS A PETITION TO VACATE,
AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.
YES, SIR, PLEASE SAY THE NAME.
10:59:39AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
VAC 25-01.
CAN I ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE THIS.
APPLICANT'S NAME, HUBERT AVENUE INVESTMENTS.
ADDRESS TO VACATE A PORTION OF WEST CHELSEA STREET, NORTH
OF ALVA STREET, SOUTH OF CAYUGA STREET, NORTH OF MANHATTAN,
AND WEST OF NORTH HUBERT AVENUE.
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS OF SUBDIVISION PLAT.
28,086 SQUARE FEET.
PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW.
AND APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED.
HERE IS WEST CHELSEA. THIS IS THE PLAT IN WHICH IT WAS
CREATED.
WEST CHELSEA PROPOSED AREA IN RED.
HERE IS AN IMAGE IN THE FIELD LOOKING EAST FROM NORTH
MANHATTAN, AGAIN, THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION.
WEST CHELSEA.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST FROM N. HUBERT AVENUE.
APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF WEST CHELSEA.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS INCLUDE NATURAL RESOURCES AND MUST COMPLY
WITH CHAPTER 27 WITH REGARDS TO TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE
DESIGN, IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE VACATED
AREA.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:01:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:01:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU PUT THE OVERHEAD SHOWING THE
VACATION AS WELL?
11:01:25AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
YES.
11:01:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
SO THE APPLICANT ONLY OWNS THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
11:01:36AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
TO THE NORTH, CORRECT.
11:01:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH HAVE
TECHNICALLY, I GUESS, IF IT WAS OPEN, WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO
THIS ALLEY?
11:01:45AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
IT WASN'T AN ALLEY.
IT WAS ACTUALLY PLATTED AS A STREET THAT IS 50 FEET WIDE.
NOW, AS FAR AS ACCESS, CURRENTLY, THERE IS A LOT OF PROPERTY
OWNERS OUT THERE THAT HAVE IT INSTALLED.
I GUESS THEY WERE UNAWARE AT THE TIME MAYBE.
DIDN'T DO THE PROPER DUE DILIGENCE MAYBE.
BUT IN THE FIELD, IT IS NOT DRIVABLE.
11:02:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
11:02:10AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR SOME TIME AND IT IS
AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING.
11:02:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND.
11:02:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GREAT.
APPLICANT.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:02:25AM >> MY NAME IS MARIO PENZO.
I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY -- ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE
PROPERTY.
BASICALLY, THE NEIGHBORS -- WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER
WAS AGENCY IS, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SIGNS OFF, AND WE
SUBMITTED IT IN OUR APPLICATION THAT ALL OF THEM KIND OF
WANT TO DO THE SAME THING.
AND THAT AREA IS GOING TO BE USED FOR WATER RETENTION, SO WE
ARE NOT GOING TO DISTURB ANYTHING THAT IS THERE BASICALLY.
IT IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME EXACT WAY.
11:02:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
11:02:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON
ITEM 88?
I SEE NO ONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
WHO WISHES TO READ ITEM NUMBER 88.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:03:14AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF WEST
CHELSEA NORTH OF ALVA STREET, SOUTH OF CAYUGA STREET, EAST
OF MANHATTAN AND WEST OF HUBERT WITHIN THE PLAT OF DREW PARK
AND CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 THEREOF AND COVENANTS
AND CONDITION, AND ENFORCEMENT OF PENALTIES OF, PROVIDING
FOR DEFINITIONS, REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING
SEVERABILITY.
11:03:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:03:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
11:03:58AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION APRIL 17, 2025, 10:00 AT CITY COUNCIL, 315 E.
KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062.
11:04:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE CAN NOT GO TO THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS SO WE HAVE TO WAIT
ON THOSE.
BUT WE CAN GO TO ITEM NUMBER 91 REGARDING CHAPTER 15
PARKING.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PRESENTED BY MR. BHIDE.
11:04:28AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO CHAPTER 15 THAT WE ARE
PRESENTING FOR FIRST READING THIS MORNING.
THE INTENT OF THESE CHANGES IS REALLY TO MODERNIZE AND STREAMLINE
THE ADMINISTRATIVE -- THE ADMINISTRATION AND PROCEDURES
APPLICABLE TO PARKING AND A PARKING DEPARTMENT.
THE PARKING DIRECTOR SUBMITTED A MEMO INSIDE TALKING OF
CHANGES.
11:04:57AM >> PARKING DIVISIONS MANAGER.
JUST QUICK -- JUST QUICK CLARIFICATIONS.
ONE, THIS IS JUST MORE ADMINISTRATIVE.
WE ARE NOT ADDING ANY NEW CODE.
THAT IS MORE STATE STATUTE.
AND THEN ALSO, IT IS REALLY JUST UPDATING THE OLD LANGUAGE
WITH THE NEW MODERN LANGUAGE.
SO THE -- SO THE MEMO WAS PROVIDED AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS.
11:05:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
MR. SHELBY, DO WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS?
11:05:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PER COUNCIL'S MOTION.
11:05:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY?
IF NOT, TAKE IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
MA'AM?
11:05:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:05:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
A SECOND?
11:05:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
11:05:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
CONGRESS HENDERSON WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS.
11:05:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2025-8 CHAPTER 15,
ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, DELETING IN ITS
ENTIRETY THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 15,
PARKING, ADOPTION, A REVISED CHAPTER 15 PARKING PROVIDING
FOR SEVERABILITY.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:06:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:17AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:06:19AM >>THE CLERK:
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION APRIL 17, 2025 AT 10:00
A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLORIDA, 33602.
11:06:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
COME UP TO THE LECTERN.
WHAT'S GOING ON?
11:06:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GOOD MORNING.
11:06:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
RIGHT, I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST IF THERE WAS ANY STAFF
REPORTS THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO GET TO NOW, THAT WAY WE CAN GO
AHEAD AND STILL, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME THINGS TO DISCUSS AFTER
LUNCH.
SO LET'S GET TO -- LET'S TRY TO GET THROUGH THESE OTHER
STAFF REPORTS THAT WE CAN, AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK.
11:07:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO TO THE SIDEWALK ITEM.
11:07:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
KELLY WAS TRYING TO RESCHEDULE IN THE
BACKGROUND.
CAN YOU GO SEE --
11:07:16AM >> FOR YOUR MOTION AS SOON AS YES, WE HAVE.
AND YES -- I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THAT UNTIL AFTER -- UNTIL WE
GET TO STAFF REPORTS AFTER LUNCH.
11:07:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW ABOUT THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU OF FEE.
11:07:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
STAFF PRESENT AND REQUIRED FOR THAT.
I BELIEVE MISS GREGORY.
11:07:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT ON THE
SIDEWALK?
11:07:39AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I WOULD ASK BRANDON CAMPBELL IS ON HIS WAY.
11:07:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TAKE TEN-MINUTE RECESS TO GET HERE.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME UNTIL 12.
11:07:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE 100 AND 101 WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
11:07:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
101 I WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER LUNCH.
I DIDN'T THINK WE WOULD MOVE THIS QUICK.
SO -- SO ITEM NUMBER 95, WE ARE WAITING ON THAT, BECAUSE IT
IS IN CONNECTION WITH SOME OTHER STUFF AS WE MENTIONED
EARLIER.
ALL RIGHT.
SO LET'S SEE -- 98 IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED.
DO WE HAVE A FUTURE DATE?
11:08:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET ME LOOK AT THAT, IF I MAY.
11:08:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE HE IS.
11:08:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE DIDN'T RUN.
11:08:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HE STOPPED TO GET COFFEE.
[LAUGHTER]
FACTS.
11:08:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BRANDON CAMPBELL.
STATE YOUR NAME EVEN THOUGH I JUST SAID IT.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:08:50AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
GOOD MORNING, BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY
DEPARTMENT, TO TALK OF ITEM 99.
WE UPLOADED A STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS A DETACHED DRAFT
RESOLUTION THAT REFLECTS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF
SIDEWALKS FOR OUR CITY PROJECTS.
I DID BRING A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW ON
THE ELMO, IF I MAY.
11:09:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:09:17AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I THINK YOU SAW IT EARLIER TODAY, THE
$225 FIGURE WAS CALCULATED LOOKING AT THE SIDEWALK PROJECTS
THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE LAST QUARTER'S -- QUARTERLY
SIDEWALK UPDATE IN DECEMBER.
FIVE PROJECTS IN THAT REPORT.
AND -- AND I LOOKED AT THE -- THE COSTS OF THOSE FIVE
PROJECTS IN A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND MY PRESENTATION TO THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
JUST TO -- TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING A FAIR LOOK.
OF THOSE FIVE PROJECTS, ONE WAS A FAIRLY SIMPLE PROJECT.
BARBADOS AVENUE HAD VIRTUALLY NO GRADING AND WOULD NOT
NECESSARILY BE A TYPICAL SIDEWALK PROJECT.
SO THAT COST WAS -- WAS FAIRLY LOW AT $12.98 PER LINEAR
FOOT.
GLENN AVENUE WAS MORE EXPENSIVE PROJECT BECAUSE IT HAD
SIGNIFICANT DITCH INFILL AND PIPING.
AND THAT CAME OUT AT $635 A LINEAR FOOT.
BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS SEEMED TO ME REASONABLE TO EXCLUDE IN
ORDER TO GET A MORE TYPICAL PROJECT.
11:10:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT, JUST A MOMENT.
I WANT T&I TO KNOW -- NOT ON THE PUBLIC SCREEN.
WE CAN SEE IT HERE, BUT THE SLIDE ON THE OVERHEAD, WE WOULD
LIKE IT ON THE BIG SCREEN.
WE WILL JUST WEIGHT A SECOND HERE.
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF FIGURES AND I WANT THE PUBLIC TO
SEE IT.
THERE WE GO.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:10:52AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
I DID TAKE A LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT
WAYS.
IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THE MOST REASONABLE WAY TO DO SO WAS TO
ELIMINATE THE OUTLIERS AND LOOK THE THREE PROJECTS TYPICAL
FOR CITY SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION.
I ALSO BROUGHT ANOTHER SLIDE FROM THAT SAME PRESENTATION I
SHARED WITH THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
AND IF WE FIGURED ALL OF THE COSTS ALL FIVE OF THOSE, IT
SHOWS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SLIDE, THOSE AVERAGES WERE
PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY SKEWED BY THE ONE PROJECT THAT WAS JUST
MORE COMPLETE OF COMPLEX.
AND SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FOR US TO PEG AN EXACT
UNIT COST TO OUR SIDEWALK PROJECTS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE WIDE VARIATIONS AND COMPLEXITY OF
THOSE PROJECTS.
SO FOR THAT REASON, IT MADE BETTER SENSE TO SORT OF LOOK AT
THAT MIDDLE RANGE OF WHAT IS TYPICAL.
THE ITEM THAT WAS UPLOADED TO THE AGENDA TODAY, I THINK, I
MENTIONED TO MOST OF YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALLY THAT IT IS A
DRAFT RESOLUTION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE AN OPTION FOR YOU
TO ADOPT THAT RESOLUTION HERE AND NOW, BUT CERTAINLY WANTED
TO GIVE IT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE DISCUSSED IN FRONT OF YOU
ALL.
11:12:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?
11:12:18AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
NO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
11:12:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE
NUMBERS YOU ARE SHOWING US ON THE PROJECT LIST ON THE
PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU SHOWED 219.80 PER LINEAR FOOT WHICH WAS
THE AVERAGE.
THESE ARE BIG PROJECTS.
WOULD THIS APPLY TO SOMEBODY ELSE BUILDING A SINGLE-FAMILY
HOME BEING A RS-50 LOT AND ONLY SO MANY FEED.
DO THEY HAVE THE SAME COST AS SOMETHING THAT IS 1700 LINEAR
FEET OR 800 LINEAR FEET SUCH A SMALL DRIVEWAY AND A LITTLE
BIT OF SIDEWALK.
IS IT FAIR TO STILL THEM, WE ARE PAYING $219 ON AVERAGE BUT
REALLY FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, IT CAN BE LESS, CONSIDERING
IT IS SUCH A -- A MUCH SMALLER PROJECT AND AN INDIVIDUAL
PIECE, NOT A BIG STRETCH OF ROAD.
11:13:09AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
TWO THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY IN RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION.
FIRST IS, THE COST TO THE PRIVATE CONTRACTOR MOBILIZED AND
CONSTRUCTING A HOME.
WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THEIR DIRECT COSTS IF THEY ARE DOING
INSTALLATION TO BE LOWER THAN OUR COSTS IN PART BECAUSE IT
IS AN ANCILLARY ITEM TO THE OTHER CONSTRUCTION ON SITE.
CERTAINLY THAT NUMBER IS SLOWER.
THE OTHER PART OF MY RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION IS WHEN WE
ARE LOOKING AT LARGER PROJECTS, GENERALLY WHAT WE SEE WE GET
AN ECONOMY OF SCALE BY DOING LONGER PROJECTS.
WE, IN FACT, HAS A PROJECT THAT WE ARE IN PURSUIT RIGHT NOW
OF -- OF A CONTRACT ON.
IT IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE NEXT QUARTERLY REPORT.
BUT IT IS A $2 MILLION UPSET LIMIT TO -- TO TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF THE BUDGET ALLOCATION THAT YOU ALL PROVIDED SPECIFICALLY
FOR SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION.
AND DOING ONE LARGER DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT.
AND WE EXPECT OUR UNIT COSTS FOR THAT PROJECT SPECIFICALLY
TO BE LOWER THAN WHAT IS TYPICAL.
SO WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ONCE THE SCOPE AND FEE AND THE
PROJECT CERTAINTIES ARE IN PLACE ON THAT, WE WOULD BE HAPPY
TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AS WELL AND SAY, HEY, IS THERE A NEED
TO ADJUST AGAIN WHAT THE IN LIEU FEE IS?
11:14:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO I KNOW WE HAVEN'T VISITED THIS ITEM
IN YEARS AND THE COST OF SIDEWALKS HAVE GONE UP.
I REMEMBER WITH THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, I HAD REQUESTED
FOR A SIDEWALK TO BE PUT IN ON A ROAD ALONG WEST TAMPA ALONG
RIVER AND BECAUSE OF SPEEDING AND TRAFFIC.
JUST THE WHOLE STORY.
AND HE REMEMBER IT BEING A $100,000 PROJECT.
BUT IT SPANNED SEVERAL BLOCKS.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT IT COSTS TODAY.
WE -- WE HAVE LOST A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES OF SIDEWALKS BEING
BUILT.
WE ARE NOT CATCHING UP WITH THE RISING COST OF EVERYTHING.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHEN I ASK FOR THIS ITEM I MAY SAY 2017, WE
CAN BUY A HOUSE IN WEST TAMPA FOR $180,000.
NOW $450,000.
ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE GOING UP.
I THINK WE SHOULD VISITED THIS AND DONE AN INCREASE OVER THE
YEARS GOING -- WHAT IS IT NOW, LIKE A 900% INCREASE?
I THINK $30 TO $220, WHATEVER IT IS.
JUST -- MY RANDOM NUMBERS HERE.
WE HAVE THE -- THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I GET IS, PLEASE PAVE
THE ROADS.
SECOND BIGGEST COMPLAINT, WE NEED SIDEWALKS.
THERE IS A PUBLIC DEMAND.
A PUBLIC SAFETY DEMAND.
WE HAVE PEOPLE -- I EXPECTED HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY
BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF E-MAILS WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM
INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS, PEOPLE I KNOW PERSONALLY.
A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYBODY BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND FOR
SIDEWALKS.
SO I WILL WAIT TO HEAR WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY, THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I BELIEVE IT WAS CLENDENIN, HURTAK.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:16:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
SO CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM, WHEN THE CITY ASSESSES THESE TIMES
OF FEES, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN RECRUIT THE
ACTUAL COST, WHICH WE ARE LEGALLY ENTITLED NOT JUST TO
RECOUP THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION BUT ENGINEERING, DESIGN,
EXCAVATION, UTILITY WORK, AND THAT WILL BE IN LEGAL
COMPLIANCE WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE, CORRECT?
THE ACTUAL COST REIMBURSEMENT.
WHATEVER THE ACTUAL COST OF THE PROJECT IS.
11:16:35AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
THIS IS GOVERNED BY OUR ORDINANCE.
11:16:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SETTING FEES.
THE ORDINANCE OF FLORIDA STATUTE SETTING FEES.
11:16:45AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
OUR FEE IS SET PER OUR ORDINANCE.
A CALCULATION IN THE ORDINANCE AND IT IS --
11:16:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND AND A REGULATION BY THE STATE
OF FLORIDA THAT MAN DATES THE CITY -- -- WE CAN'T MAKE A
PROFIT ON FEES.
FLORIDA STATUTES.
11:17:04AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
TIED TO ACTUAL COST.
11:17:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN INCLUDE ENGINEERING, UTILITIES.
WHAT I AM GETTING AT IS, THIS IS A BARGAIN BECAUSE WE ARE
NOT ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT ON ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT
COULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PROJECTS, CORRECT?
IS THIS THE ACTUAL COST OF CONSTRUCTION?
11:17:23AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
ACTUAL COST OF CONSTRUCTION WHICH
INCLUDES THE ANCILLARY LIKE GRADING, RAMPS AND IF THERE
HAPPENS TO BE A TREE REMOVAL AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION
COST.
DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING.
11:17:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES NOT INCLUDE STAFF TIME.
11:17:39AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
CORRECT.
11:17:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THING IS A BARGAIN.
THE -- I CONCUR WITH OUR CHAIRMAN OF THE NEED OF THE CITY.
RAN ON IT.
MOST PEOPLE -- WE HAVE BEEN BEATING THIS DRUM AND GETTING
BEAT OVER THE HEAD FROM OUR CITIZENS ABOUT THE POTHOLES,
CONDITIONS OF THE RODE AND LACK OF SIDEWALKS.
I LOST TWICE AND SECOND TIME AND WON THAT ONE ON IT.
BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING OF SIDEWALKS.
I WANT TO DRIVE THE POINT HOME THAT IF THESE IN LIEU FEES
ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
THEN OUR TAXES PAYING FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
INSTEAD OF THE DEVELOPER OF THE -- OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION
WHICH IS CREATING THIS IMPACT AND THIS GROWTH AND THESE
ISSUES, INSTEAD OF THEM PAYING FOR IT, THE SENIOR CITIZEN
THAT IS PAYING PROPERTIES OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA IS PAYING -- IS -- SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO PAY FOR IT.
THESE THINGS ARE NOT BEING PUT IN FOR FREE.
NO SIDEWALK FAIRY IS COMING IN AND INSTALLING SIDEWALKS.
SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY FOR IT.
AND THIS IS NOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT -- BUT WHY WOULD I
ASK SOMEBODY ON A FIXED INCOME OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO
LIVES SOME PLACE ELSE TO PAY FOR A SIDEWALK THAT SHOULD BE
PAID FOR BY THE IMPACT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
11:19:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THEN COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA -- MIRANDA?
OKAY.
YES, MA'AM.
11:19:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I AM SURE YOU ALL SAW THERE WAS A CYCLIST KILLED THIS
MORNING ON 50th STREET.
11:19:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:19:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I KNOW WE HAVE TO DO BETTER FOR OUR
COMMUNITY WHO -- PEOPLE WHO DON'T USE CARS.
IMPROVING OUR SIDEWALKS IS A BIG PART OF THAT.
MOST OF THE SIDEWALK BUILDING ISN'T BUILDING SIDEWALKS IN
FRONT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES LIKE ONE HOME.
THESE ARE LARGER PROJECTS, AS YOU TALKED ABOUT.
AND BECAUSE WE -- WE -- WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR MONEY
AND WE TRY FOR ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME.
I LIVE IN A HOUSE WHERE I AM THE ONLY HOUSE IN THE STREET
WITH A SIDEWALK.
BECAUSE I HAVE THE NEWEST CONSTRUCTION ON THE BLOCK.
MY HOUSE WAS BUILT AFTER THE RULE OF YOU GOT TO BUILD A
SIDEWALK.
BUILDING A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE WAS VERY
COMPLICATED BECAUSE I HAVE AN OAK TREE.
THEY HAVE TO GO AROUND IT.
IT WAS NOT CHEAP.
I WOULD HAVE TO IMAGINE THERE WAS EXTRA COSTS INVOLVED, BUT
THEY CHOSE TO BUILD IT ANYWAY.
NOW I HAVE A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE, BUT IT IS THERE, AND IT IS
THE BEGINNING OF WHAT COULD BE MORE SIDEWALKS.
THE THING THAT -- THAT REALLY SELLS THIS TO ME IS THAT
BUILDERS CAN SIMPLY BUILD A SIDEWALK INSTEAD OF PAYING INTO
THE FUND.
THERE IS NO RULE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO PAY INTO THE FUND.
BUILD A SIDEWALK.
AS BUILDER -- AS IT HAS BEEN SHOWN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE
A CONCRETE TRUCK COMING ALREADY THE COST IS SIGNIFICANTLY
CHEAPER FOR THE DEVELOPER.
SO THAT -- AND, YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK I HAVE SEEN SO MUCH
PASSION ABOUT AN ISSUE EXCEPT FOR PURE.
POSSIBLY THE PURE THING.
BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED SO MUCH PERSONAL E-MAIL WITH STORIES.
PEOPLE'S STORIES ABOUT SIDEWALKS THAT HAVE BEEN REALLY,
REALLY JUST SHOWS THE ABSOLUTE DESIRE FOR US AS A CITY TO
BUILD MORE SIDEWALKS.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU PUT IN THIS TO DO
THIS.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TOO SUPPORT IT.
11:21:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MIRANDA, VIERA AND CARLSON.
11:21:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE AN E-MAIL SOMEONE INCENTIVE ME
BACK THAT SAID I HATED SIDEWALKS.
I DON'T RECALL EVER SAYING THAT, BUT I GOT THE E-MAIL.
SO I AM SAVING IT.
JUST IN CASE I NEED IT.
AND THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, WHAT MISS HURTAK -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS
SPEAKING ABOUT, AND MAYBE NOT DIRECTLY TO THAT POINT, BUT
ANOTHER POINT, A LOT OF AREAS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE DITCHES.
SO SOME OF THOSE DITCHES ARE VACANT LAND.
SO IF YOU CAN NOT PUT A SIDEWALK, AND YOU BUILD A HOUSE,
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEBODY
ELSE'S SIDEWALK.
AM I CORRECT?
11:22:07AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
WELL, THERE WILL BE -- ORDINANCE REQUIRES
THAT SIDEWALKS BE BUILT.
IN THE EVENT A SIDEWALK IS FOUND TO NOT BE PRACTICAL, THERE
IS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF INSTANCES WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION
MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE CAN MAKE A FINDING THAT IS NOT
PRACTICAL.
IN THE EVENT THAT THE SIDEWALK IS NOT PRACTICAL, THEN THE
SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE CAN BE PAID INTO THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU
FEE FUND.
11:22:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE TO INTERRUPT YOU.
CAN'T BE OR HAVE TO BE.
WHICH ONE -- YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH.
11:22:44AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
YOU MEAN -- OKAY, IF A SIDEWALK IS FOUND TO
NOT BE PRACTICAL, YOU HAVE TO PAY.
11:22:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO HAVE
A SIDEWALK.
11:22:58AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
YOU PAY INTO THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE FUND
AND THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR PROJECTS.
11:23:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT PERSON WOULD NEVER HAVE A SIDEWALK?
11:23:12AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
I MEAN NOT IN THAT --
11:23:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM BRINGING UP THINGS THAT ARE NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN.
CITY CAN DO IT.
COVER A DITCH AND SIDEWALK ON TOP OF WHAT THEY COVERED.
WHY DON'T THE CITY -- IF THEY REALLY WANT TO DO A JOB RIGHT,
THEY SHOULD TIE THAT LAND WITH THE INDIVIDUAL PAYING FOR A
SIDEWALK, HAS A SIDEWALK.
I THINK IT WOULD BE LOGICAL.
BUT WE, OURSELVES, DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY FOR THAT ONE
INDIVIDUAL -- I AM JUST GOING TO SAY ONE INDIVIDUAL IN THE
WHOLE CITY WHICH I KNOW I AM WRONG IN.
I JUST WANT CLARITY, BECAUSE THE SAME THING -- I HAVE A
HOUSE AND I ADD TO THE HUES WITHOUT A PERMIT AND I SELL IT
TO YOU IT, THEY COME AFTER YOU FOR WHAT I DID.
THIS IS ALSO -- I CAN'T SWALLOW THAT.
BUT THAT IS A LAW WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE SOMEBODY WHO CANNOT GET A
SIDEWALK.
WHAT ABOUT IF YOU HOLD THAT MONEY IN RETENTION?
IT PAY INTO A FUND AND YOU HOLD IT SO HE CAN GET A SIDEWALK
WHENEVER THE SIDEWALK IS PUT IN.
11:24:10AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO, BUT I DON'T
THINK IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE PERSONALLY.
11:24:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT WOULD BE FAIR.
11:24:20AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PAY THE IN LIEU FEE.
11:24:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY HAVE A SIDEWALK BUT A DITCH IN FRONT
OF THEIR HOUSE.
11:24:30AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE TO FILL IN THAT
DITCH AS PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT.
SOMETIMES THOSE THINGS ARE -- THEY ARE REASONS FOR WHICH AN
APPLICANT DOES PAY INTO THE IN LIEU FEE.
LIKE -- THE PROJECT I MENTIONED WHERE WE DID EXACTLY THAT.
IT WAS $663 -- OR $635 PER LINEAR FOOT FOR US TO DO SO.
IN THAT CASE FOR A DEVELOPER OR HOMEOWNER, IT BECOMES A VERY
EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION AND LESS LIKELY THAT UPSTREAM AND
DOWNSTREAM OF THAT THAT THE PROJECT WOULD CONTINUE.
THAT IS THE REASON --
11:25:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE CITY PAID FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE
A SIDEWALK OR WHATEVER.
11:25:13AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I AM SORRY WHAT IS THE QUESTION?
11:25:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ARE YOU COMMITTING TO THE SAME.
11:25:21AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
NO WE ARE NOT.
11:25:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IN LIEU OF.
WHICH I AGREED WITH.
I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, SIR.
BUT IF YOU DID IT FOR ONE, YOU HAVE TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY
ELSE IN THE CITY.
11:25:35AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I UNDERSTAND.
I WOULD SAY WE DO BUILD SIDEWALKS AS I MENTIONED WITH A OUR
UPCOMING $2 MILLION PROJECT.
11:25:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE --
11:25:50AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
SIDEWALKS ON REDEVELOPMENT.
11:25:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MIRANDA I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS
THE SAME PLAN THAT YOU ARE GIVING UP.
IF YOU HAVE A DITCH, YOU CAN STILL BUILD A SIDEWALK?
11:26:03AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL.
YES.
11:26:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHO WILL BE PAY FOR THE PIPING?
ON THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:26:09AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
PART OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:26:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT THIS COMMITMENT.
11:26:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:26:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OBVIOUSLY, I WILL SUPPORT THIS.
THIS IS A VERY GOOD PRO NEIGHBORHOOD MEASURE.
EVERYBODY IS RIGHT THAT WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT SIDEWALKS FROM
PEOPLE.
AND YOU KNOW THERE IS ALWAYS AN IDEA THAT ONE PART OF THE
CITY HAS GREAT SIDEWALKS, THE OTHER ONE DOESN'T.
GO THROUGH CITY OF TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, NORTH
TAMPA.
SIDEWALKS ARE EQUALLY MISERABLE THROUGHOUT PARTS OF TAMPA.
PART OF THE FRUSTRATION THAT I HAVE AND THAT A LOT OF US
THINK THIS IS GREAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT A FEW YEARS AGO,
LEFT IN CITIES LIKE TAMPA AND COMMUNITIES IN HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY DOING PATCHWORK SOLUTIONS TO SIDEWALKS WHICH ARE A
BASIC NEIGHBORHOOD NEED WHEN 2018, VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY
PASSED A LAW FOR TRANSPORTATION ABOUT 60% INCLUDING WELL
OVER 60% IN NEW TAMPA, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SUBURBS.
PENDING A SALES TAX THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO SIDEWALKS
BECAUSE PEOPLE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT IT.
I GO BACK TO 2018 SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY ARE SO
FRUSTRATED WITH ISSUES INVOLVED WITH MOBILITY, INCLUDING
SIDEWALKS THAT THEY GO WE WANT TO TAKE MORE HARD-EARNED
MONEY AND PAY IT SO WE CAN ADDRESS THIS BASIC LIFE NEED.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS -- THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE LEFT
HAVING TO DO IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE LEGAL ISSUES AFTER
25018.
LEGAL ISSUES THAT PREEMPT A VOTE IN 2022.
NOT TALKING OF THE MERIT OF THOSE CASES AT ALL, BUT THE
COMMUNITY, I STILL BELIEVE IN 2025, DOES WANT ROBUST
SOLUTIONS TO ISSUES LIKE THIS.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WHICH IS A BIG STEP
FORWARD.
THIS IS A GREAT THING.
BUT WE ARE -- WE -- WE WANTED THE.
WE WANTED A HOLISTIC SOLUTION AND WANTED -- THE SONG.
JOHNNY CASH.
ONE PIECE AT A TIME.
WE ARE DOING ONE PIECE OF A TIME RIGHT NOW.
AND EVERY PIECE IS IMPORTANT.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE.
AND THE COMMUNITY DEMANDS THAT HOLISTIC SOLUTION, I BELIEVE.
BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN GETTING THIS ONE
PIECE AT A TIME.
11:28:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IN THE SONG ONE PIECE OF A TIME AND
DIDN'T COST ME A DIME.
THIS IS GOING TO COST MONEY, BUT IT IS A NECESSITY.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:28:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, THANK YOU.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COME UP SEVERAL TIMES SINCE I HAVE
BEEN IN COUNCIL THE LAST SIX YEARS AND HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
GO FORWARD FOR AFTER REASON IN THE PAST.
LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THIS APPROVED TODAY.
THE FORTUNATE FACT THAT GOVERNMENTS TYPICALLY GET HIGHER
PRICES THEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR VARIOUS REASONS AND WE
HAVE TO PASS ON THE ACTUAL COST OF IT.
AND NOT MARKING IT UP WITH SOME KIND OF PENALTIES AND THE
ACTUAL COST OF WHAT THE CITY HAS TO PAY.
AND THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO BUILD ON THEIR OWN.
$30 A FOOT.
AND IF THEY CAN, THEY CAN PAY INTO THE FEE.
THIS IS -- AS OTHERS SAY A SMALL PIECE IN A LARGER ISSUE.
WHAT FOLKS TALKED ABOUT RUNNING A PLATFORM WHEN I RAN IN
2019, SIDEWALKS WERE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
SHORTLY AFTER I GOT ELECTED I MADE A MOTION, TWO MOTIONS
WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED AND SUPPORTED, WHICH WAS, ONE, TO
CREATE A SIDEWALK PLAN -- A REVISION FOR A SIDEWALK PLAN FOR
THE CITY AND NUMBER TWO, TO CREATE A BICYCLE PLAN AND VISION
FOR THE CITY.
AND THE ADMINISTRATION SHOVED IT ASIDE.
WHETHER THE PUBLIC IS ASKING FOR NOW IS LEADERSHIP IN THE
MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE COMMITTED
TO SUPPORTING THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
THE ATTEMPTS TO PASS NEW TAXES FAILED MULTIPLE TIMES.
THAT MONEY.
AND NOT COMING SOON.
IF IT IS LIKE THE ONES IN THE PAST IT WILL FAIL LIKELY AS
WELL.
IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE WE ARE WAITING FOR POTENTIAL NEW
FUNDING SOURCES.
OUR PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT TO STREETS TO FALL APART.
FOLKS IN WHEELCHAIRS WANT TO GET BY AND FOLKS WITH THE STROLLERS
DON'T WANT TO WALK IN THE STREETS.
THE POTHOLES AND ROAD REPAIR ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE
SOME OF THE WORST I HAVE EVER SEEN EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
IF ANYBODY DOESN'T BELIEVE IT COULD GO TO SEPARATE
BEAUTIFUL.
THE ROADS THERE ARE JUST HORRIFIC.
ALL WE HEAR ARE EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES.
ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY TO STEP UP
TO FIX THESE SYSTEMIC ISSUES.
CALVARY IS NOT COMING IN.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESOLVE OURSELVES.
THANK YOU.
11:31:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WILL BE THE FIRST
SPEAKER ON THE SECOND ROUND AND THEN MIRANDA.
LET ME ASK YOU, $219.80 A LINEAR FOOT.
WHAT DOES ON AVERAGE, IF YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT A
SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
IF THERE IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION AND PERSON BUILDS A HOUSE ON
A RS-50 LOT.
WHAT IS THE INCREASE THEY ARE PAYING NOW AS OPPOSED TO THIS
PROPOSAL.
11:31:34AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I LOOKED AT THE IN LIEU FEE PERMIT
APPLICATIONS AND THERE HAVE BEEN 44 OF THEM IN THIS CALENDAR
YEAR.
THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF -- OF -- OF SIDEWALK THAT WAS USED TO
CALCULATE THAT WAS 71 FEET.
SO A LOT OF THESE ARE A LITTLE LARGER LOTS.
BUT THE AVERAGE COST FOR 71 FOOT IN LIEU CONTRIBUTION WILL
BE JUST UNDER $15,000.
11:32:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEING THIS IS A STAFF REPORT BUT IT MENTIONS HERE TO CREATE
A RESOLUTION.
MR. SHELBY, WE ARE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING TODAY?
WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT --
11:32:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION.
11:32:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA, ITEM 99 IS NOT
STATED AS PRESENTING A RESOLUTION FOR COUNCIL ACTION
SPECIFICALLY.
WHAT IT DOES SAY FOR STAFF TO CREATE A RESOLUTION TO ADJUST
THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE AND WAS STATED POSTED AS A DRAFT.
THE MEMORANDUM STATED AS A DRAFT.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT YOU PUT IT ON AS A MOTION TO
TAKE ACTION UNDER YOUR CONSENT AGENDA OR UNFINISHED BUSINESS
PRESENTING A RESOLUTION FOR ACTION.
AND I TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE --
THIS IS NOT AN ORDINANCE.
IT DOESN'T COME BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
NOT JUST READINGS.
THIS IS ONE AND DONE.
THE OPPORTUNITY, NEW INFORMATION GIVEN AND A PRESENTATION TO
MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT IS PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA SO
PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THIS BEING A DRAFT COULD
HAVE BEEN AMENDED IN SOME FORM AND FASHION AND PRESUMPTION
THERE WOULDN'T BE ACTION BASED ON THE WAY THE ORDINANCE WAS
STATE AND MY STRONG RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU PUT IT ON THE
AGENDA FOR FUTURE ADOPTION.
11:33:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
11:33:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR WHAT HE JUST SAID.
I HAVE A QUESTION.
FILE NUMBER CM 24-2533 STATES, CITY STAFF TO CREATE A
RESOLUTION TO ADJUST THE SIDEWALK IN-LIEU FEE FOR THE ACTUAL
COSTS OF BUILDING SIDEWALKS.
SO THAT -- IF WE WERE TO MOVE THAT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE CITY
STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION SITTING IN LIEU OF
FEES.
11:34:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY DID THAT.
WE HAVE THE DRAFT RESOLUTION.
11:34:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT THE WAY THIS IS PUBLISHED -- BUT THE
WAY THIS IS PUBLISHED, WE MOVE THIS THE WAY IT IS, THEY ARE
GOING TO COME BACK WITH THE RESOLUTION SET SOMETHING THE
FEES.
11:34:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
11:34:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS IS PUBLISHED.
11:34:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF COUNCIL ACCEPTS IT, ANY ACTION OF
COUNCIL SUBSEQUENT TO THIS?
OR DOES THIS SET THE FEE AND AT THIS POINT AFTER THE TIME
COUNCIL MOVES THE RESOLUTION.
YOU WILL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT IT.
THAT IS CORRECT?
11:34:43AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
YES, WE BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL THIS WAY AS
PART OF THE STAFF REPORT.
11:34:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
11:34:49AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
IN ANTICIPATION THERE WILL BE DISCUSS OF THE
FEE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
A MOTION AS A FULLY FLUSHED-OUT RESOLUTION FOR --
11:35:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR INTENT IS TO AM BACK WITH A FULL ME
FLUSHED-OUT RESOLUTION.
11:35:12AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
THAT'S WHAT I AM HEARING.
11:35:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EXCUSE ME, THE MOTION WILL BE TO BRING IT
BACK.
BUT THE RESOLUTION -- THE DRAFT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HERE
IN COUNCIL, IS THAT IT WILL BE ACCEPTED AS IS AND YOU WON'T
MAKE ANY CHANGES, THAT'S CORRECT?
11:35:27AM >>EMMA GREGORY:
UNLESS DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO CHANGE
SOMETHING IN THE RESOLUTION, I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY CHANGES.
11:35:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT IS READY TO BE ROCK AND ROLL.
ONLY DIFFERENCE A PRESENTATION AND SLIDES ATTACHED.
I SUSPECT FINDS OF FACT BUT NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO
ADDRESS THE THINGS PRESENTED TODAY.
THIS BEING A RESOLUTION NOT AN ORDINANCE WITH TWO READINGS.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
11:35:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND MIRANDA.
11:35:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I REALLY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SET THAT FOR APRIL 17.
I MOVE THAT WE.
11:36:03AM >> SECOND.
11:36:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SET THE RESOLUTION FOR APRIL 17 ON THE
CONSENT AGENDA.
11:36:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:36:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HE SECONDED THE MOTION.
11:36:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING?
11:36:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
I AM FINE WITH THAT.
11:36:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO SPEAK WHETHER WE BRING IT BACK.
DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THIS FIRST.
I WANT TO GET DIRECTION ABOUT THIS FIRST.
11:36:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION ON
THE FLOOR?
11:36:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION.
GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON THE MOTION.
11:36:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU ALL -- BECAUSE I
BELIEVE THE FIGURES THAT YOU CREATED WAS JUST BASED ON ONE
QUARTER.
11:36:39AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
11:36:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU KNOW WHAT QUARTERS --
11:36:51AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I THOUGHT YOU SAID CORRIDOR.
THESE FIVE PROJECTS WERE COMPLETED OVER TWO QUARTERS, THE
LAST TWO QUARTERS.
11:37:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS IT POSSIBLE JUST -- TO GET MORE DATA
POINTS.
IS IT POSSIBLE COULD YOU BRING YOU WITH THE DATA OVER A
PERIOD OF FOUR CONSECUTIVE QUARTERS.
THE -- HOPEFULLY THE LAST FOUR CONSECUTIVE QUARTERS ABOUT
HOW MUCH THESE PROJECTS COST?
11:37:19AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES.
11:37:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CONCUR WITH YOUR ANALYSIS WITH THROWIN
OUT THE OUTLIERS.
IF THEY CAN REFLECT THAT IN THE DATA THEY BRING, SHOW US
THOSE OUTLIERS AND AMORTIZE THAT OUT WITH THAT FIGURE.
I THINK MORE DATA POINTS IS BETTER AND I THINK MAYBE WILL
BUILD SOME COMFORT WITH SOME OF THE NAYSAYERS ABOUT THIS.
TO SHOW -- WELL, I THINK IT REPRESENTS IT -- SO I WOULD LIKE
TO SEE THE DATA POINTS.
THANK YOU.
11:37:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
A MOTION AND A SECOND, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:37:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT ON THAT MOTION.
I WANT TO SPEAK AFTER THAT.
11:37:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE MORE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
OKAY.
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:38:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WE ARE NOW DOING OUR OWN PAVING OF ROADS, AM I CORRECT.
11:38:13AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
MIRANDA YES.
11:38:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT THREE AND FOUR AND
INSTEAD OF STAYING WHAT THEY ARE CHARGING US, DO OUR OWN
SIDEWALK PROGRAMS.
11:38:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE.
11:38:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE ARE DOING OUR OWN AND COSTS THAT MUCH
MONEY?
11:38:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
11:38:32AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I WILL SAY OUR OPS TEAM HAVE BUILDING
THOSE PROJECTS.
THESE PROJECTS WERE CONTRACTED OUT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE READY FOR LARGE-SCALE SIDEWALK
CONSTRUCTION BUT WE ARE WORKING THAT DIRECTION.
11:38:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT YOU HAD TWO TEAMS.
11:38:50AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
THAT IS PAVING.
11:38:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS IN-HOUSE PAVING.
11:38:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WOULD ADD IN A SEPARATE MOTION THAT
MOBILITY COMES BACK APRIL 17 IF THEY HAVE TIME FOR THIS -- I
AM NOT TRYING TO PRESSURE YOU.
WHAT WOULD BE THE ACTUAL COSTS FOR THE CITY TAKING OVER THE
TOTAL SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT OF CITIES IN DISTRICTS 4, 5, 6
AND 7.
AND THAT -- AS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOWER THE COST.
AND I THINK WE CAN GET A MUCH BETTER PRICE IF YOU DO NOT SUB
IT OUT.
YOU DO IT YOURSELF.
IF YOU SUB IT OUT, YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THE CONTRACT TO DO
IT.
11:39:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW DO YOU WANT THAT?
A SEPARATE STAFF REPORT.
CLENDENIN.
11:39:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM GOING TO ASK MOBILITY IF THEY CAN DO
THAT.
11:39:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT UNTIL NEW BUSINESS.
11:39:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
7 DOESN'T NEED THAT BECAUSE THEIR
SIDEWALKS ARE ALREADY PAVED IN GOLD.
[LAUGHTER]
11:39:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU KNOW WHAT -- THAT IS WHY I WANT IT.
THE ONLY PART OF THE SIT THAT IS NEW, VACANT LAND AND
DEVELOPED AS A PART OF IT WHICH WAS NOT NEW AND ALREADY
DEVELOPED.
11:40:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. CHAIR.
SORRY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A POINT.
SOME OF THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA'S
OBSERVATIONS.
I KNOW THESE ARE NOT IMPACT FEES, BUT WE TALK OF IMPACT FEES
ALL THE TIME AND HOW -- WHEN YOU -- WHEN YOU REDEVELOP OR
DEVELOP, YOU ARE IMPACTING THE CITY AND SO A LOT OF THAT --
THAT IS KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW WE ARE DEVELOPING
THE CITY.
IT LANDS THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING
THE CHANGE THAT PROVOKES THAT FEE SO SOMEBODY IS TAKING
ACTION AND BUILDING SOMETHING WHICH IS BRINGING ANOTHER
STRESS POINT TO THE CITY AND WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD A BETTER
CITY HIGHLIGHTED BY THE CITY.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND THE PRICE DISCREPANCY.
CITY PAYS LIVING WAGES.
CITY PAYING RETIREMENT.
THE CITY PAYS HEALTH CARE.
WE TREAT OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
I CAN'T TELL YOU WITH SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS WHAT THEY ARE
USING, WHETHER THEY ARE CERTIFIED PEOPLE OR TRAINED PEOPLE,
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I WILL STAND BEHIND THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND QUALITY OF
WORK AND THE TRAINING THEY BRING TO TABLE AND WHAT PETITION
PROVIDE TO THE CITY'S EMPLOYEES AND GUESS WHAT, THAT COSTS
MONEY.
11:41:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE PROVIDE A PLAN AND THE EMPLOYEES
PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAN NOT PAYING THE COST.
11:41:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOING TO HOME DEPOT
TO PICK UP A DAY LABORER TO PURE CON SECRETE THEN HAVING
WELL QUALIFIED, WELL-TRAINED EMPLOYEES.
IT WILL COST MONEY.
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
11:41:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:41:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MIRANDA?
11:41:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM LOOKING AT CAMPBELL.
11:41:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CHANGED ALREADY.
11:41:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAY FOR THE SCHEDULE, RON WIGGINTON IS
HERE.
NUMBER 100 WE CAN KNOCK OUT IN TEN MINUTES.
11:42:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT WILL BE THE NEXT ONE.
WE ARE GOOD ON THAT AND YOU WILL HAVE A MOTION UNDER NEW
BUSINESS --
11:42:09AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I WANT TO POINT TO WHEN YOU MAKE THE
MOTION AND GIVE US 90 DAYS OR SCHEDULING IT AT A WORKSHOP.
11:42:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
90 DAYS?
11:42:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL GO BY THE CALENDAR.
MR. WIGGINTON, ITEM 100.
AFTER MR. WIGGINTON, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BREAK?
11:42:33AM >> YES.
11:42:36AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SET THIS UP REAL QUICK.
THANK RON AND HIS COLLEAGUES.
THEY HAVE DONE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF RESEARCH ON THIS.
NEIGHBORS IN DAVIS ISLAND DISCOVERED THAT COMMERCIAL
CONTRACTORS WERE PULLING A DOCK ALONGSIDE THE SEAWALL ON
DAVIS ISLAND NEXT TO A ROAD.
AND THEN THEY WERE BRINGING UP PER COMMERCIAL TRUCKS IN
FRONT OF HOUSES AND CONDOS AND LOADING HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND
HEAVY SUPPLIES FROM THE ROAD TO THE BARGE AND MOVING ON TO
SOMETHING ELSE.
SOME SET US ON A WHOLE JOURNEY AND HE TALKED TO SEVERAL
DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO SEE WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT.
ALSO INCREDIBLY LOUD.
WORRIED OF THE BADGE TO THE SEAWALLS AND.
11:43:24AM >>RON WIGGINTON:
RON WIGGINTON, LET DEPARTMENT.
ITEM 100 FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE OF
COMMERCIAL USAGES OF SEAWALLS OR DOCKS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS
EXCEPT IN LOCATIONS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR COMMERCIAL USE
AND FURTHER THAT ANY POSSIBLE ORDINANCE WOULD ALSO REGULATE
THE TYPE OF USAGE, HOURS OF OPERATION, SOUND REQUIREMENTS
AND ANY NEED FOR A PERMIT.
SO THE SHORT ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS ARE YES.
THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR AN ORDINANCE.
AND, YES, THERE IS A NEED FOR A -- A PERMITTING PROCESS;
HOWEVER, IT IS COMPLICATED AND MIGHT REQUIRE A BROADER
DISCUSSION AMONG ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.
I WILL MENTION THAT IN A MOMENT.
BUT THE -- THE REASON WHY IT IS COMPLICATED.
I SEE THIS FROM FOUR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
FIRST IS THE SEAWALL PERSPECTIVE.
I RESEARCHED SEVEN DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS SIMILARLY
SITUATED TO US AND FOUND ONLY ONE CODE SECTION THAT MAY
COMPLY TO THE SITUATION WHICH IS FOUND IN MIAMI SECTION
50-157 WHICH IS A SECTION THAT ADDRESSES PUBLIC PROPERTY OF
ABUTTING WATER AND THE USE RESTRICTION THEREOF.
THAT CODE SECTION, THAT IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR ANY CITY-OWNED
PROPERTY ABUTTING WATER FOR CITY MARINAS AND AUTHORIZED BY
CITY MANAGERS.
GOES ON TO SAY THAT CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES THE END OF
STREETS, ROADS, PUBLIC WAYS AND PARK LAND THAT ABUTS THE
WATER.
I DID NOT SEE ANY REFERENCE IN THAT CODE ABOUT A PERMITTING
PROCESS.
I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE "AUTHORIZED BY CITY MANAGER"
MEANS.
I DO BELIEVE THAT A PERMITTING PROCESS WILL BE VERY
EFFECTIVE HERE THOUGH.
BUT IT DOES REQUIRE THE ANALYSIS OF MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS
TO CONSIDER.
TO ENFORCE A NEW PERMITTING PROCESS THAT REQUIRES
COORDINATION AND INPUT FROM MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS OF
MOBILITY/PARKING, PARKS AND REC, TPD/MARINE PATROL.
BUSINESS IMPACT STATEMENT OF THE ESTIMATED COST TO THE CITY
AND THE BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE ORDINANCE.
BOTH OF WHICH WOULD TAKE SUBSTANTIAL TIME ACCUMULATING AND
COMPILING.
YOU ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AVOID UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES IF YOU GO AND PROVIDE FOR EQUAL TREATMENT OF
THE LAW.
FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PERSPECTIVES, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN
THE SEAWALL.
WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY.
YOU CAN REGULATE PARKING WITHOUT ORDINANCE.
THAT TYPE OF REGULATION WILL INCLUDE POTENTIALLY RESTRICTING
THE TYPES OF USES, ESTABLISHING FREIGHT ZONES, HOURS OF
OPERATIONS, ETC.
HOWEVER, THIS ALSO MAY HAVE SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
WHEN YOU HAVE A BASEBALL FIELD RIGHT NEXT DOOR THAT IS USED
AND PARKING WILL BE SURROUNDING THAT AREA.
THE THIRD PERSPECTIVE IS THE WATER SIDE PERSPECTIVE, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS THE MOST COMPLICATED AREA BECAUSE YOU
ARE DEALING WITH PROTECTED AND NAVIGABLE WATERS.
AND A LOT OF PREEMPTION AND STATEMENT REGULATION ON THESE
WATERWAYS OPINION YOU DEAL WITH SUB MERGED LANDS, THE
MORNING FIELDS.
ANCHOR LIMITATION FEEDS THAT ARE OPTIONS AND ANCHOR
LIMITATION FIELDS ARE NOT WHAT OF THE IT SOUNDS LIKE, NOT A
PROHIBITION OF ANCHORING.
I HAVE CONTINUE TO A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THE WATER
RIGHT-OF-WAY ACCESS AND ONLY SCRATCHING THE SURFACE.
I DO FEEL IT IS NECESSARY TO CONSIDER BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE
DEALING WITH ARE VESSELS ON WATER.
AND MANY TIMES MAYBE THE ONLY ENFORCEMENT YOU CAN DO IS FROM
THE WATER.
SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE NOISE PERSPECTIVE.
AND I WANTED TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS PART
OF THE MOTION.
AND WE DO HAVE CHAPTER 14 THAT ADDRESSES EXCESSIVE NOISE
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT REALLY MENTIONS -- THAT MENTIONS
NOISE COMING FROM PROPERTY OR THE AIRSPACE ABOVE THAT
PROPERTY.
DOESN'T MENTION ANYTHING OF WATER PROPERTY.
SO I THINKD THAT CHAPTER 14 WOULD NEED TO BE MODIFIED TO
MAYBE INCLUDE THIS TYPE OF SITUATION AND THIS WOULDN'T BE
TOO DIFFICULT TO DO.
SO FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE
TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP MEETING BECAUSE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED.
YOU HAVE DOCK COMPANIES, TAXI COMPANIES, OTHER ENTITIES THAT
ARE TRANSPORTING PERSONNEL ON AND OFF FROM THE BOAT, AND YOU
HAVE MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT ALL MAY BE INVOLVED OR
IMPACTED BY THIS.
AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR
OPINION AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM.
11:48:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
CLENDENIN.
11:48:14AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL HAVE TO GO TO RON'S RECOMMENDATION IF
WE CAN PUT TOGETHER AN ORDINANCE.
BASED ON HIS RECOMMENDATION, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO
SCHEDULE FOR A WORKSHOP.
SEPTEMBER?
SCHEDULE IT FOR THE SEPTEMBER WORKSHOP.
11:48:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:48:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST -- IS THIS A ONE-OFF THING?
I MEAN, WE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY WHEN WE
SHOULD BE DOING A LOT OF OTHER STUFF?
11:48:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER INTERESTING THING IS, PIRATE TAXI
ALSO PULLS ALONGSIDE THERE.
AND THE NEIGHBORS LIKE PIRATE TAXI BECAUSE IT IS AN AMENITY.
WE CAN'T TREAT PEOPLE UNFAIRLY.
AND LIKE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ON YOUR SHOW THE OVER DAY
USING THE WATERWAY, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE -- WHAT -- HE
WAS ON A PODCAST I WAS LISTENING TO.
IF -- IF WE SUDDENLY HAVE TRANSIT UP AND DOWN THE RIVER, AND
-- AND THAT WAS TAKING PEOPLE PLACES, WE WOULD NEED TO BE
ABLE TO REGULATE IT IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY.
11:49:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WATER REGULATION IS REALLY COMPLICATED.
THERE IS SO MUCH PREEMPTION AND SO MANY PEOPLE WITH FINGERS
IN THIS PIE.
YEAH, SO -- GOD, THIS SEEMS LIKE A CAN OF WORMS.
I --
11:49:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:49:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO JUST SAY THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE TRANSPORTING.
IF THIS IS A ONE TIME DEAL OR DOING IT WITH REFRIGERATORS UP
NORTH AND UP THE RIVER AND PUTTING IT IN A JURISDICTION --
WHO HAS A HOUSE ON THE RIVER AND LOADING IT UP ON A BOAT,
TAKING IT NORTH?
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
11:49:51AM >>RON WIGGINTON:
I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE THE EQUIPMENT THEY
ARE TRANSPORTING FROM LAND TO SEA.
OBVIOUSLY WOULD INVOLVE DOCK REPAIRS AND DOCK CONSTRUCTIONS.
SOME WHATEVER THAT MAY ENTAIL.
AS FAR AS THE FREQUENCY OF IT, IT IS SPORADIC AND REGULAR.
MULTIPLE COMPANIES THAT ARE OPERATING FROM THERE.
11:50:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT A ONE-TIME DEAL, BUT A REGULAR DEAL.
11:50:14AM >> NOT CONSTANT, SPORADIC.
11:50:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHERE IS THIS AT.
11:50:21AM >>RON WIGGINTON:
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AS COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON, JULIAN B. LANE -- -- NO, IT'S MARJORY PARK IN DAVIS
ISLAND NEXT BASEBALL FIELDS.
11:50:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE MARINA.
11:50:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHERE THE CLUBS ARE.
ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE POOL.
11:50:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
11:50:41AM >>BILL CARLSON:
STORIES THAT MAYBE IT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR
20 YEARS BUT THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE SUDDENLY STARTED TO
COMPLAIN AND GOT ORGANIZED ABOUT IT AND THAT'S HOW THIS CAME
UP.
THERE IS A RISK IN ANY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE --
COMPANIES COULD START OFF LOADING THINGS.
AND BROUGHT UP A REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION.
11:51:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS ISN'T A ONE-TIME THING.
I HEARD SOMETHING LIKE THIS FROM A DAVIS ISLAND RESIDENT IN
2019 MAYBE.
AND IT WAS -- SO THIS ISN'T A ONE-TIME BRAND-NEW THING.
A MOTION AND A SECOND TO SET THIS FOR A WORKSHOP.
11:51:19AM >>RON WIGGINTON:
PLEASE.
11:51:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
SEPTEMBER 25.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
11:51:28AM >>RON WIGGINTON:
THANK YOU.

01:36:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS CITY COUNCIL
MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
01:36:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
01:36:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
01:36:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
01:36:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HERE.
01:36:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
01:36:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
01:36:32PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:36:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUMP INTO 103 AND 104.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD WITH THAT
DISCUSSION.
01:36:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION WITH
MISS DUNCAN DURING LUNCH BREAK.
WE THINK WE HAVE IT SOLVED.
A LOT OF STUFF.
I APOLOGIZE.
IT IS CONFUSING.
WE GOT RID OF THE 103, THE QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE ARE NO
LONGER DOING.
THAT IS GONE ALREADY.
MOVED ON TO ITEM 104.
AGENDA ITEM 104, CM 25-12002 WILL BE CONTINUED TO MAY 1 AS A
ONE-TIME IN-PERSON STAFF REPORT.
01:37:16PM >> SECOND.
01:37:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THIS IS A ONE-TIME AND THEN WE WILL
GO BACK TO --
01:37:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS -- YES, YES.
01:37:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS INFORMATION ALREADY AVAILABLE
ONLINE?
01:37:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABOUT STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
01:37:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 1, THAT'S CORRECT?
01:37:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S CORRECT.
01:37:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:37:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, NEXT.
CM 25 -- I HAVE THIS FOR YOU, I THINK, THAT KELLY ALREADY
GAVE YOU A COPY, BUT IF NOT, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
CM 2512001, THE MONTHLY STORMWATER MAINTENANCE REPORT
CURRENTLY SCHEDULED AS AN IN-PERSON REPORT FOR APRIL 3, THE
REPORT ITSELF WILL NOT BE LOADED INTO ON BASE UNTIL, BUT THE
PRESENTATION WILL GO ON AS SCHEDULED.
APRIL 3.
ALREADY ON THE SCHEDULE.
ALREADY MOVED.
01:38:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE INFORMATION WILL BE ONLINE BY THEN?
01:38:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, IT WILL BE ONLINE AFTER TO PROVIDE THE
MOST UP-TO-DATE SITUATION.
IF THEY DON'T, THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT TWO WEEKS PRIOR.
01:38:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JEAN IS OKAY WITH THAT.
01:38:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY DID IT LAST TIME LAND OTHER REPORTS.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
MISS DUNCAN, ANYTHING TO ADD?
01:38:32PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
IF YOU NEED FOR ME TO WEIGH IN.
WE ARE PUBLISHING THIS REPORT MONTHLY ON OUR WEB SITE.
THE REASON WE GO ON AFTER, BECAUSE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE,
WE DON'T HAVE TIME -- TO GET IT IN ON BASE BEFORE.
THESE REPORTS ARE ON OUR WEB SITE EVERY MONTH FOR ANYONE TO
ACCESS AT ANY TIME.
01:38:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
01:39:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NEXT MONTHLY REPORT MAY 1 MOVED TO THE MAY 25
WITH CM 25-222012 STORMWATER MOTIONED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON.
01:39:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE ORIGINAL ITEMS.
01:39:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONLY FOR 25-12-001.
01:39:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DOES THAT WORK FOR TO YOU PUT THAT TO
THE WORKSHOP IN MAY?
01:39:26PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
YES, OBVIOUSLY OUR PREFERENCE IS TO SIGH IT
ONCE.
BUT WE WANT TO BE ACCOMMODATING.
SO WE CAN DO THAT, YES.
01:39:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
01:39:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
01:39:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
01:39:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
13-46, THE TWO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT I
MOTIONED TO BE -- WHICH ARE -- NUMBER ONE, WHICH WOULD
ASSIST THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT FACILITIES CREW MORE
ADDITIONAL FTE OR CONTRACTOR ASSISTANCE AND TWO, WHICH IS
MOST COST EFFECTIVE FOR PARADE ROUTE BARRIERS AND STORMWATER
STAFF AND CONTRACTOR ALSO BE MOVED TO THE MAY 25, 2025
WORKSHOP WITH CM 25-22-12 STORMWATER PRESENTATION.
01:40:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
A SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:40:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
I KNOW -- IT IS MAY 22, BY THE WAY --
01:40:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY, MAY 22, 2025.
01:40:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO QUESTION FOR YOU.
I KNOW MISS DUNCAN HAD ASKED TO CONSOLIDATE THIS.
WOULD THAT JUST BE A NONSTARTER TO HAVE THEM IN THAT
WORKSHOP?
01:40:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, THE OTHERS -- THIS IS THE LAST ONE,
FIRST OF ALL.
THE OTHER IS A MONTHLY REPORT AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT
UNTIL THE END OF MAY.
CITIZENS ARE KIND OF CURIOUS OF STORMWATER.
01:40:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM -- I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS
FOR A WHILE AND MAYBE NOT THIS.
I AM NOT GOING TO PUSH IT ON THIS ONE.
INTUITIVELY, I THINK THAT WE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY KEEP
TRACK OF ALL OF THESE THINGS.
GENERATE THESE REPORTS AND -- LIKE A MACHINE.
AND --
01:41:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHY I AGREED WITH WHAT THEY SAID AND
CONSOLIDATED TWO OF THEM AND MOVED THEM TO THE 22nd.
01:41:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LIKE I SAID.
I AM GOOD WITH THIS AND JEAN IS GOOD WITH THIS.
GENERALLY AS A COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT A WAY
TO WRANGLING THIS UNDER CONTROL AND BE MORE STRATEGIC OF
HAVING STAFF REPORTS LIKE ONE TIME.
AND NOT BURDEN THEM AS MUCH --
01:41:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I DON'T HAVE
NEARLY AS MANY STAFF REPORTS AS OTHERS.
01:41:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KNOW.
I AM NOT SAYING IT DIRECTLY TO YOU.
01:41:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM THE LOWEST.
01:41:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KNOW WHO WE ARE LOOKING AT.
[LAUGHTER]
01:41:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE.
01:41:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS THE LAST
FEW MONTHS BECAUSE I HAVE --
01:41:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A GREAT TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT DURING OUR --
01:41:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL DISREGARD MY CONVERSATION.
PLEASE ERASE THE LAST CONVERSATION AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT
A LITTLE BIT LATER.
01:42:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
01:42:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
103 AND 104.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS DUNCAN.
THAT COMPLETES THAT?
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S KEEP GOING.
SO IF WE CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO DO THIS CONTINUANCE.
A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
OKAY.
WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE A RESCHEDULING REQUEST FOR THE REVIEW
HEARING TO BE RESCHEDULED TO MAY 15, 2025 FOR ITEM NUMBER
90.
IT WILL NOT BE HEARD.
IT IS MISNOTICED.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO SET ITEM THE 0 FILE NUMBER SU
1-24-98-C FOR MAY 15, 2025, 1:30, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
YES, SIR.
01:43:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL MOVE ITEM 98 TO MAY 1 OF 2025.
THAT IS ON THE FEDERAL GRANT COMING TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
AND ALSO JUST -- IT APPEARS THAT IS GOING TO BE GOING
THROUGH WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ALL THE CHAOS IN THE
FEDERAL LEVEL, BUT SO SEE HOW MUCH OF IT WE ARE GOING TO GET
AND ONE OF THE BIG INCREASES HOW MUCH WE USE FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW MUCH OF IT CAN WE ALSO USE FOR
HOUSING ASSISTANCE.
SO IF I MAY, MOVE THAT TO MAY 1.
THAT IS A TIME WHEN WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS, I BELIEVE, WHICH IS
PURSUANT TO THE RULES.
01:43:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:43:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
01:43:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT SETTLES THAT.
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
I DON'T SEE MR. REMER THERE.
WE WILL WAIT FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, ARE THEY A FEW
MINUTES AWAY?
01:44:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I AM UNSURE.
I WOULD REQUEST TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT FOR THE PARENTS,
COUNCIL.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
01:44:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHIT IS PART OF ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE,
BUT HE IS NOT THERE.
01:44:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I COULD IF CHIEF BENNETT CAN TALK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT DISCUSSION WILL TAKE.
01:44:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHIEF BENNETT, DO YOU WANT TO TALK OF
BUNKER?
I KNOW WE HAVE ITEM 95 TIED INTO IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU WOULD NEED FOR THIS ITEM.
01:44:38PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, PUBLIC, JOHN
BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING CHIEF TRIPP IS COMING IN TO SPEAK
ABOUT 95 AS A PROCUREMENT PIECE.
IF THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT BUNKER, HE WILL BE HAPPY
TO TRY TO --
01:44:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT.
SO OBVIOUSLY A LETTER FROM ED KELLY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE --
I AM GETTING A CALL FROM THE PARENTS.
SOMEBODY WANTS TO KEY THIS UP --
01:45:12PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
I WILL COME BACK.
01:45:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
01:45:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHIEF BENNETT, I HAVE A QUESTION.
NOT TO OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS.
BUT I HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH PARKLAND ESTATES FOLKS
AND BERN'S AND EPICURION.
IT WAS IN REFERENCE TO THE SOUTH FLORIDA -- THE SOUTH HOWARD
FLOOD PROGRAM.
01:45:35PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
OKAY.
01:45:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KNOW WE PASSED -- THERE ARE COUNCIL
PASSED THE DESIGN PHASE OF THIS.
MY QUESTION IS -- AND LISTEN TO THEIR PRESENTATION.
AND I SUGGEST THIS BECAUSE -- AND I REMINDED COUNCIL THAT WE
DON'T NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS.
WE JUST APPROVE THEM OR DENY THEM.
THEY HAD A PROPOSAL WHICH, YOU KNOW, SEEMED EXTRAORDINARY
REASONABLE.
AND THIS IT WOULD GO DO YOU KNOW SWANN, USE THAT SOFTBALL
COMPLEX AND THE DITCH OWNED BY THE CITY THAT PARALLELS THE
CROSSTOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN.
INTUITIVELY, IT KIND OF LOOKED AND SOUNDED GOOD.
I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT YOU SPEAK WITH THE MAYOR AND TALK OF
REOPENING OR AN ADDENDUM OF THE CONTRACT TO AT LEAST EXPLORE
IT AND HAVE THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER.
A LOT OF PUBLIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
AT LEAST THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO SLOW THINGS DOWN.
THE DESIGN SPACE HAVEN'T STARTED YET.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO BRING BACK THE IDEAL OF
AMENDING THE CONTRACT INCLUDING LOOKING HARD AT THAT OTHER
PROPOSAL.
01:47:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:47:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HAVE YOU TALKED TO STORMWATER ABOUT THAT?
BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THAT.
CONTRACTORS -- FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE CONTRACTORS
ARE DOING THE CONTRACT WORK AND OUR STAFF IS LOOKING A THREE
OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
HAVE YOU ASKED THEM IF THAT IS THE POSSIBILITY THEY ARE
LOOKING FOR?
01:47:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK -- KIMMINS IT IS DOING IT.
01:47:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, THEY ARE NOT.
OUR STAFF IS DOING IT.
01:47:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE NEED TO AMEND THE CONTRACT WITH
KIMMINS.
01:47:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY CAN'T OUR STAFF DO IT.
01:47:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT DOING THE THREE.
01:47:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE PUBLIC DOESN'T TRUST THE PROCESS.
01:47:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE I THINK THE EXPERTISE THAT A
CONTRACTOR BRINGS IS DIFFERENT.
I AM NOT -- OUR STAFF IS GOOD AND CAN DO ALL OF THAT, BUT I
TELL PEOPLE, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS.
STAFF ALREADY HAS FULL-TIME JOB.
NOT LIKE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SITTING AROUND DOING
NOTHING WAITING FOR US TO GIVE THEM ASSIGNMENTS.
FOR ENGINEERING, OUR STORMWATER PEOPLE ARE BUSY TOO.
AND THEIR CAPACITY IS ONLY SO MUCH.
SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WILL BE A VERY DIFFERENT IS SOLUTION TO
HAVE AN ADDENDUM TO THAT CONTRACT TO PURSUE LOOKING AT
ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IT DOESN'T WORK,
IF THE NUMBERS ARE NOT THERE.
IF IT IS UNREALISTIC.
AND THE CAPACITY IS NOT THERE.
WHEN I SAW THE LENGTH OF THAT DITCH ALONG THE CROSSTOWN.
AND HOW LESS DISRUPTIVE THAT WOULD BE AND I FROM THE
BEGINNING FELT THAT SWANN AND A PORTION WAS ON HERE BECAUSE
IT WAS SO WIDE.
AND DO THAT WITH LESS CONSTRUCTION.
I WOULD LIKE FOR TO YOU TALK ABOUT IT.
01:48:44PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
I WILL SHARE WITH WHAT WE KNOW.
THE MAYOR HOSTED THE SAME GROUP YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TO
DISCUSS ALTERNATIVES.
SEVERAL PRESENTED FROM THIS GROUP.
ONE OF THEM SEEMED TO HAVE SOME TRANSACTION TO LOOK AT AND I
BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TRUE, THAT THEY ARE LOOKING
AT THIS AS AN ALTERNATIVE, BUT IN-HOUSE.
AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SPOKE OF.
BUT ALSO THE NEXT LEVEL WAS TO TALK TO KIMMON ABOUT THE
FEASIBILITY.
I THINK SOME OF THIS -- I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE, BUT I THINK
IT HAS BEEN ENERGIZED THAT WAY.
01:49:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU OFFLINE AND YOU
WERE STANDING THERE AND I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK YOU NOW.
EITHER THAT OR I WILL START SING SOMETHING.
EITHER WAY.
01:49:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PLEASE DON'T DO THAT.
[LAUGHTER]
01:49:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:49:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE SPOKEN TO CHIEF BENNETT ABOUT THIS.
I HAVE CONCERNS HOW THIS WHOLE PROCESS WAS MADE.
ONE OF THE WORST POLITICAL PROCESS THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
SO BAD THAT THE SOUTH TAMPA AND PARKLAND ESTATE THE
ADMINISTRATION PITTED NEIGHBOR AGAINST NEIGHBOR.
IT WAS HORRIBLE THE WAY IT WAS DONE.
I THINK WE NEED TO RESTART.
KIMMINS WITH HARBOUR ISLAND, MacDILL 48.
AND THEY GET HIGH REMARKS IN ALL THE PROJECTS THEY DO.
BUT THIS ONE THIS ONE WAS INCREDIBLY DIVISIVE BECAUSE
SOMEBODY DECIDE THIS WOULD BE THE ROUTE AND THIS IS WHAT WE
ARE GOING TO DO.
BUSINESS GROUPS AND NEIGHBORHOOD TALKED TO STAFF.
AFTER THE BUSINESS GROUPS SPENT 250,000 LOOKING AT THE OTHER
ALTERNATIVES.
STAFF SAID WE WILL NOT LOOK AT ANY OF THE NEW ALTERNATIVES
AND GO BACK TOWARD ANYONE THAT WE ALREADY DID.
THAT GROUP MET WITH THE MAYOR AND SAID WOULD GO DOWN HOWARD
AVENUE.
SECOND HAND, IF THE MAYOR DISAGREES.
THE POINT IS THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE
AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK.
KIMMINS WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THEY WANT TO MAKE IT
WORK.
WE NEED LEADERSHIP AND STOP THE DIVISIVENESS.
AFTER 65 MILLION PLUS -- $65 MILLION OR SO IN INTEREST THIS
WILL NOT STOP FLOODING PROBLEM IN PARKLAND AND PALMA CEIA.
WE NEED TO HIT THE RESET BUTTON ON THE ENTIRE THING.
01:51:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT.
01:51:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, I JUST DON'T LIKE
-- AGAIN, WE JUST BROUGHT THIS UP TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
SAID THAT THE MAYOR AND HIM WILL HAVE TALKS AND WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE TALKS.
I THINK PROBABLY A DECISION POINT THAT WHAT YOU SAID IS
ACCURATE THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT REVISITING THIS AGAIN.
AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT
THIS.
NOT BECAUSE IT WAS A DECISION POINT.
THERE WAS A MOMENT IN TIME COME HELL OR HIGH WATER.
BUT I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT WE PIVOT AND I
THINK WHAT YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS HE WILL
GO IN AND THE MAYOR ALREADY HAD THE ONE CONVERSATION AND
WILL TALK AGAIN AND OPEN THIS BACK UP.
AND STAFF WAS LOOKING AT IT AND LET'S LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO CLOSE THE DOOR BECAUSE THIS WAS
THE DECISION MOMENT YESTERDAY IS THE SAME POINT WE ARE AT
TODAY.
01:52:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:52:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I HAVE A SECOND BITE OF THAT SINCE YOU
GOT THE SECOND BITE.
01:52:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE DIDN'T HAVE THE FIRST BITE.
01:52:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS.
HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS THING?
WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT BEFORE?
I FEEL LIKE QUITTING RIGHT NOW.
JUST GETTING THE HELL OUT OF HERE.
01:52:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PLEASE, CHARLIE.
PLEASE DON'T DO THIS.
01:52:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I FEEL LIKE GETTING THE HELL OUT OF HERE.
WE CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
01:52:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DECIDED THIS.
01:52:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AND I AM NOT JOKING.
THIS IS THE MOST DISCONTENT IF INDIVIDUAL GROUP -- NOT
INDIVIDUALLY BUT GROUP THAT I EVER WORKED WITH.
01:52:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
UNFORTUNATELY, THE VOTERS ELECTED THE MAYOR
AND PICKED HER STAFF AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE PROBLEMS
THAT WE ARE HAVING.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE WHILE.
MAY I JUST RESPOND TO THAT?
01:52:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT TO END THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT
IS NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA.
I JUST LOST ALL INTEREST IN IT.
LET'S END THE DISCUSSION.
01:53:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF HE GOT A SECOND BITE.
01:53:06PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
WE WILL DO THE NEXT PUN WITH COUNCIL'S
PLEASURE FOR THE NEXT ITEM.
01:53:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HOW COME I GOT SET UP AND NO ONE ELSE ON A
SECOND BITE.
01:53:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA.
01:53:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL TAKE 30 SECONDS.
MORE TIME --
01:53:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.
01:53:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BUT THE CHAIR IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE A SECOND
ROUND.
ISN'T THAT OUR PROTOCOL.
01:53:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
30 SECONDS AND THE DISCUSSION ENDS.
01:53:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO RESPOND TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
I SPOKE WITH CHIEF OF STAFF JUST BEFORE THE BREAK, AND THE
LAST CONVERSATION I HAD WITH HIM, HE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE, I
THINK, I PLEADED WITH HIM.
PLEASE HAVE THE MAYOR STAND UP AND SAY I DECIDED TO
RE-EVALUATE THIS AND LOOK AT THE OTHER OPTIONS.
AS OF THAT MEETING, THE MAYOR HOME RUN NOT DECIDED TO DO
THAT.
IF THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST TWO DAYS, I HOPE THE
MAYOR WILL TALK ABOUT IT.
I AM NOT TALK ABOUT DOING NOTHING.
AN HONEST PROCESS THAT WILL HAVE SOLUTIONS.
01:54:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, ANY UPDATES?
01:54:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WILL BE HERE VERY SOON.
DO MR. REAMER.
01:54:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHIT IS HERE.
01:54:14PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
IF I CAN INTRODUCE CHAIRMAN, THE COUNCIL AND
THE PUBLIC.
IF YOU WANT TO WOMAN UP.
SO WHIT JOINED US OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION KICKED
IN WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR COUNTY SUSTAINABILITY AND
RESILIENCE WAS SO IMPORTANT FOR OUR INTERGENERATIONAL THINGS
THAT WE ALL KNOW.
WE KNOW COUNCIL WORKED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE
THAT OUR FUTURE IS STRONG IN THAT SPACE.
THING THAT DRAWS US -- I TRAVELED TO AMSTERDAM AND LOOKED AT
THEIR WATER USAGE.
PEOPLE LOOK AT DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF SOLID WASTE AND IT ALL
TIES TOGETHER.
WHAT ENAMORED US ABOUT WHIT, IS THE FACT THAT HE DID WANT TO
NOT WANT TO BUILD A PLANNED AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
HE WANTED TO SEE IT LIMITED.
AFTER MULTIPLE PLANS, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRACTION IN PLACE TO
KEEP THE CITY MOVING FORWARD.
I REMEMBER MY FIRST REAL STRONG ITERATION WHEN THE STORMS
AND OVER THE NORTH END, AND I TURNED AROUND AND SHE WAS THERE
VOLUNTEERING ON HER DAY OFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY
WAS GET WHAT THEIR NEEDS WERE.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO WHIT TO MAKE COMMENTS AND INTRODUCE
KAYLA AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
01:55:23PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, WHIT THE REAMER, SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE
NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE NOT ONLY THE
ADMINISTRATION'S SUPPORT IN CREATION OF THIS POSITION, BUT
COUNCIL'S SUPPORT.
WE HAVE DONE SOME REMARKABLE THINGS MY TENURE, INCLUDING
SIGNIFICANT FEDERAL AND STATEMENT GRANT MONEY FOR RESILIENT
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
WE STARTED TAMPA'S GREEN TEAM WHICH I KNOW VISIT YOUR
DISTRICTS TO HELP PLANT TREES AND PICK UP TRASH.
THAT IS AN AMERICORP PROGRAM TO HOPE CONTINUE WITH SOME
FEDERAL THREATS OF CUTTING THAT PROGRAM.
AND WE CREATED OUR VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT A STATE REQUIRED
DOCUMENT RELEASING IN COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT HONES ON THE
ASSETS THAT PEOPLE LOOK LOOKING FOR.
PUMPS, PIPES, WORK THAT THE OFFICE HAS DONE.
WE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL GETTING GRANT MONEY TO
SUPPORT OUR PLANS THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN.
AND I HAVE THE FULL CONFIDENCE WHO IS STEPPING IN WILL
CONTINUE TO DEVELOP RESULTS FOR YOU ALL, FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION FOR THE GREAT PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING MOOING ME THIS PRIVILEGE.
I LOVE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I AM NOT GOING FAR AND WILL BE STAYING HERE WITH MY FAMILY
AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AROUND TOWN.
01:56:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
YES, MA'AM, YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
01:57:04PM >> KAYLA CASELI.
IN THE INTERIM, AS WHIT MOVES ON WITH HIS TRANSITION, I
WANT TO THANK HIM ON BEHALF THE CITY.
HE HAS BEEN A HUGE ASSET TO SET THE FOUNDATION FOR THE WORK
THAT THAT WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO DO AND WORKING WITH
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
A TEAM OF -- WHEREAS THREE, NOW TWO FOR A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO WE DEFINITELY CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF
EVERY SINGLE CITY STAFF MEMBER IN DIFFERENT COMPARTMENTS AND
TO CONTINUE THE COURSE THAT WE ARE ON A GREAT PATH LAND
CONTINUE TO DO THIS WORK.
01:57:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WELCOME.
MR. REMER, COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC.
I HAD MENTIONED I WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION OF SOMETHING
I HAVE SEEN.
WENT OUT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENTS OF THE SOLAR
PROGRAM.
THERE IS LINK.
I WENT TO THE WEB SITE.
THEY SAID I HAVEN'T HEARD.
IT REAL OR LEGIT?
01:58:07PM >> IT IS LEGIT.
THE LETTER SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY A TARGETING
MAILINGS.
SOME GOT OUTSIDE THE COUNTY AND WORK WITH THE VENDOR ON
THAT.
WE WORK WITH A SOLAR NONPROFIT CALLED SOLAR UNITED
NEIGHBORS.
THEY PUT TOGETHER CO-OPS THAT ARE NEIGHBORS THAT ALL WANT TO
THINK ABOUT INSTALLING SOLAR TOGETHER AND ISSUE AN RFP
TOGETHER AND ULTIMATELY HAVE PRICING DISCOUNTS.
CHARLIE MIRANDA WENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM AND WAS VERY
HAPPY WITH IT.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT PROGRAM AND THE MAIL, AN ADVERTISING
PARTNERS THAT SENT OUT THESE MAILERS.
I TOTALLY ADMIT THEY LOOK LIKE KIND -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY
SOLICITATIONS BUT STRONGLY ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO LOOK AT THIS
AND WORKWITH THOSE PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THEY LOOK AS
OFFICIAL AND LEGIT.
AND THE CITY OF TAMPA SPONSORED PROGRAM AND HOPE PEOPLE WILL
GO TO THE WEB SITE FOR MORE INFORMATION.
01:59:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, VIERA, MIRANDA
AND CARLSON.
01:59:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SOMEONE WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU IN THE BOOK STORE 48 HOURS
AGO.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT 22nd STREET AND THE EAT STUDY AND THE
GRANT YOU WORKED A LONG TIME ON THAT WE RECEIVED JUST -- AND
CREATING THE DREAM TEAM BY I LOVE SEEING THEM -- ESPECIALLY
IN MY DISTRICT.
I WANT TO SAY JOB WELL-DONE.
YOU LEFT IT BETTER THAN YOU FOUND IT.
01:59:45PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
01:59:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VIERA, MIRANDA AND CARLSON.
01:59:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK FROM TAMPA.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DO YOU WORK AT ACKERMAN?
01:59:58PM >> NO, SIR.
01:59:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHERE DID I GET THAT FROM?
I KNOW YOU ARE AN ATTORNEY.
WHAT WHIT -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE I GOT ACKERMAN LIMIT WITH
YOU.
BUT I VALUE HIGHLY ATTORNEYS WHO GO INTO AT THAT PUBLIC
SERVICE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER
MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ, THE FORMER HEAD PRESIDENT OF HILLSBOROUGH BAR
ASSOCIATION WHICH AFFIRMS THAT.
I THINK ATTORNEYS HAVE AN UNIQUE PROPENSITY TO GO INTO
PUBLIC SERVICE.
EQUAL ON IN PROPENSITY TO DO THAT.
BUT THAT IS ONE YOU TOOK.
I THINK YOU OUGHT TO BE PROUD OF THAT AS A MEMBER OF THE
FLORIDA BAR.
THANK YOU FOR THEIR.
02:00:37PM >> AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS A PUBLIC SERVICE.
HIGHEST ESTEEM OF FLORIDA BAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:00:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND CARLSON.
02:00:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
THINGS COMING OUT THAT AFTER YOU LEAVE, YOU HAD YOUR
FOOTPRINT AND FINGERPRINT ON IT.
WHOLE THING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO DO OR NOT DO.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE THE WORLD BUT WE CAN'T EVEN SAVE
OURSELVES.
BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IS HURRICANE SEASON COMING BY AND THE
PROBLEM IS WE CAN DRAW, FIX, PROGRAM SOMETHING IF WE NEED TO
FIX IT NOW.
BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS COMING BECAUSE NOW IT DOESN'T
EXIST.
YEAH, IF HURRICANE SEASON IS COMING I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZE,
STRENGTH OR WHERE IT IS GOING TO HIT.
I HAVE BEEN SAYING IT FOR A WEEK, THE BAY IS THREE DEGREES
WARMER THIS TIME THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR.
WE THINK THERE WILL BE A DECLINE IN STRENGTH, YOU ARE WRONG.
YOU GOT TO PRAY THAT IT GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE THAT IS
BRIGHT.
WE ARE ANTI BEING OURSELVES AND SAVING OURSELVES.
WE TRY TO SAVE SOMETHING IS THAT DOES NOT EXIST.
WE ARE NOT PREPARED FOR IT.
WE KEEP DOING SAME DAMN THING ALL OVER AGAIN.
KEEP REPAIRING THE HOUSES LIKE THEY WERE 1,000 YEARS AGO AND
DO NOT RESTRAIN WATER COMING IN THE HOUSE SAND TOTAL LOSS
EVEN IF THEY ARE STANDING.
WE KEEP DOING IT THE SAME WAY.
AND WHAT A GREAT JOB WE HAVE DONE.
NOT YOU, SIR.
SO WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ONE DAMN BIT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
I VOTED FOR IT AND I WILL CALLS SUPPORT SOLAR PANELS AND
DOESN'T TAKE 19, 20, 21, OR 40 YEARS TO PAY BACK.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT I FIRST TALKED HOW THIS AND SENT ME IN
THE RIGHT WAY WITH THE CO-OP.
HE WAS ONE OF THE TEN.
COST OF THAT -- IT WAS YEARS AGO $14,400.
AND MY ELECTRIC BILL LAST MONTH -- I WILL TURN IT INTO THE
CLERK FOR PUBLIC RECORD.
I AM.
THAT AND THE WATER BILL ALSO.
MY DRUNKEN DRIVING WHICH I DON'T HAVE ANY.
JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT I DO WHAT I SAY AND I SAY WHAT I DO.
IT IS GETTING TO A POINT THAT WE TALK A LOT.
AND AMERICA IS GOING TO HELL AT THE SAME TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:03:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN CLENDENIN.
02:03:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID THIS TO YOU PRIVATELY AND I WANT
TONIGHT SAY IT PUBLICLY, I THINK ONE COUNTY BIG THOUGHT
LEADERS IN OUR REGION.
I KNEW YOU WHEN YOU WERE AN ACTIVIST.
AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU THEN.
YOU ARE ALWAYS PUSHING THE LIMITS OF MAKE SURE PEOPLE
UNDERSTOOD WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.
IT WAS FUN TO WORK LIKE THAT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THE OUTSIDE.
WHATEVER THINGS YOU ACCOMPLISHED HERE I HOPE YOU CAN DO EVEN
MORE BEING A LEADER ON THE OUTSIDE WORKING WITH THE
COMMUNITY TO GET THINGS DONE AND THE EXTENT TO HELP YOU
FULFILL THAT VISION, LET US KNOW.
02:03:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:03:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS VERY SAD TO HEAR YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT
THAT YOU ARE DEPARTING.
BUT EXCITING.
DOORS -- YOU CLOSE THE DOOR BEHIND YOU AND THE DOOR YOU WALK
IN THE NEXT DOOR, AND YOU DON'T LOOK BACK AND KEEP GOING.
I HAD MANY OF THOSE EXPERIENCES WITH NO REGRETS.
AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN LIFE, ALWAYS NEW CHALLENGES.
WHAT AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO START
SOMETHING FROM GROUND ZERO AND BUILD SOMETHING AND SEE WHAT
YOU HAVE DONE.
I ECHO -- I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SAID THAT.
A COUPLE OF YEARS YOU WILL LOOK BACK AND SEE THE SEEDS THAT
YOU SOWED AND WHAT WILL BECOME OF THEM.
EXCITED FOR YOU.
AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY.
ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES OF PUBLIC SERVANT STAND YOUR
DEDICATION FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN AND ADMIRABLE.
02:04:49PM >> THANK YOU, VERY KIND.
02:04:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OUR GREAT GUY.
02:04:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE NOT AT GREAT GUY.
GET OUT OF HERE.
02:04:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I APPRECIATE YOU INVITE ME TO MEET WITH
THE GREEN TEAM AND SPEAK WITH THEM.
WONDERFUL PROGRAM.
GREAT PEOPLE.
THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY IS BRIGHT WHEN YOU SEE ALL THE YOUNG
PEOPLE INVOLVED AND HOW MUCH THEY CARE AND WHAT THEY DO.
IT GIVES ME HOPE.
THERE WERE LEADING THEM.
UP CAN'T SAY ANYTHING BUT GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOU MY RESPECT
AND THE RESPECT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE AND LUCKY TO HAVE YOU
HERE.
BEST OF LUCK FOR YOU FOR YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
YOU WILL BE MISSED.
02:05:25PM >> APPRECIATE IS VERY MUCH.
02:05:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ITEM NUMBER 97.
02:05:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MRS. BOONSTOPPEL IS HERE.
MISS VAN LOAN, IF YOU WISH, YOU MAY.
GO AHEAD, MAN THANK YOU.
02:05:46PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS
AND THE BOONSTOPPELS.
I AM MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
I WILL BE MORE BRIEF THAN I USUALLY AM BECAUSE THE FAMILY IS
HERE AND WE WILL HAVE A LOT MORE THINGS TO SAY OF THE YOUNG
HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL THAT MEANS MORE COMING FROM THEM.
IF WE CAN HAVE THE POWERPOINT.
TODAY HONORING NAMING REQUEST TO HONOR LIFE OF HARRISON
BOONSTOPPEL, WHOSE BRIEF LIFE STANDS AS AN SHINING EXAMPLE OF
PERSEVERANCE AND A FINE YOUNG ADULT WHILE OVERCOMING
PHYSICAL CHALLENGES SINCE BIRTH AND THE RESULTING
DEVELOPMENT OF DEVELOPMENTAL CHALLENGES DURING HIS LIFETIME.
HARRISON GRADUATED FROM PEPIN ACADEMY IN 2022 HIGHLIGHTING
HIS GROWTH ACADEMICALLY AND SOCIALLY.
HARRISON GREW INTO A STRONG, INDEPENDENT YOUNG MAN AND
DESPITE HIS CHALLENGES HAD A JOB, WORKING AND TAKING COLLEGE
COURSES TO ADVANCE HIMSELF THROUGH LIFE.
HARRISON SYMBOLIZES ACHIEVEMENT THROUGH HARD WORK.
POSITIVE -- VERY POSITIVE OUTLOOK ON LIFE AND SUPPORT OF
FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
HARRISON'S SUCCESS IS THE TESTAMENT OF THE INDOMITABLE
SUPPORT OF HIS PARENTS EVERY SINGLE DAY OF HIS LIFE.
THE HONORARY NAMING REQUESTING TO NAME THE NEW TAMPA ALL
ABILITIES PARK AT THE NEW TAMPA COMMUNITY PARK IN HONOR OF
THE LIFE OF THE YOUNG HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL.
TO QUOTE THE TAMPA PALMS OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
IN PART OF THE HONORING NAMING, HARRISON'S NAME WILL BE A
BEACON FOR THE PURPOSE THIS PARK WAS CREATED THAT OF
CELEBRATING AND ADVANCING THE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL ABILITIES
OF ALL PEOPLE.
THANK YOU.
02:07:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.
IF COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE BOARD.
02:07:39PM >> YES, BRUCY BOONSTOPPEL.
I WILL HAVE TO READ IT.
I'M HERE TO SHARE MY MESSAGE OF HARRISON, I NOW AND WILL
ALWAYS BE HIS MOTHER.
HARRISON WAS 20 YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS TAKEN FROM US BEGIN
VIOLENCE.
MY SON, HARRISON, AND HIS TWIN SISTER, AVA, BORN PREMATURELY
IN 2003, WELCOMED INTO THE FAMILY MY HUSBAND, CARL, THEIR BIG
BROTHER NICHOLAS, LARGE EXTENDED FAMILY AND A COMMUNITY OF
FRIENDS.
THE PATH AHEAD WASN'T ALWAYS THE EASY FOR HARRISON.
HE BARELY SURVIVED OF THE FIRST FEW MONTHS IN THE NICU AS HE
CONTRACTED A STAPH INFECTION WITH THE BREATHING TUBE FOR HIS
UNDERDEVELOPED LUNGS.
DOCTORS WERE NOT SURE HE WILL MAKE IT.
AFTER A MONTH IN THE NICU, HE WENT IN SEARCH FOR A FEEDING
TUBE FOR ALL HIS EATING NUTRITION FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS
POP TO LEARN HOW TO WALK, HE WAS FITTED WITH LEG BRACES AT AGE
3, AND HE HAD SEVERE MEMORY LOSS PROBABLY CAUSED BY THESE
ANTIBIOTICS.
AT AGE FIVE, HARRISON WAS SURGICALLY FITTED WITH A COCHLEAR
IMPLANT THAT ALLOWED HIM TO HEAR AND GRASP LANGUAGE WHICH IS
PRETTY RESEARCH THE FIRST TIME.
WE DIDN'T KNOW IN THE BEGINNING THAT HE COULDN'T HEAR.
INCLUDING FIVE THERAPIES A WEEK -- SPEECH, OCCUPATIONAL,
PHYSICAL, AND EARLY LEARNING PROGRAMS AT ROOSEVELT
ELEMENTARY BEGINNING AT AGE WHERE HE HAD TWO EXCEPTIONAL
TEACHERS MISS CASEY AND MISS ANDREA THAT SHAPED EVERYTHING
IN HARRISON'S WORLD WITH KINDNESS.
FROM FIFTH GRADE UNTIL GRADUATION IN 2022, HARRISON ATTENDED
PEPIN ACADEMIES WHICH NURTURED HIM DAILY WITH KINDNESS.
KINDNESS IS THE MOTIVATION OF THE PEOPLE WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT HERE AND THE -- SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THIS IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALWAYS WORKING TO MAKE THIS
WORLD BETTER FOR THOSE LESS FORTUNATE.
HARRISON'S LIFE WAS IN MANY WAY A BEAUTIFUL SHOOTING STAR
PASSING THROUGH A LIFETIME IN A FEW SHORT YEARS.
CRAMMED MORE EXPERIENCES, MORE ADVENTURES AND CERTAINLY MORE
ENERGY IN EVERY DAY OF THE LIFE THAN MANY OF US CAN DO AND
HE HAD A SMILE THAT MELTED HEARTS PERHAPS BECAUSE OF HIS
EXPERIENCES WITH HIS CHALLENGES, HE COULD BE QUIET AND
EVEN SHY IN NEW SITUATIONS.
ONCE HE BECAME AT EASE HIS FLOODGATES WOULD OPEN AND LOVE
FOR LIFE AND UBERANCE WOULD OPEN WIDE AS HIS AMAZING SMILE.
HARRISON WAS GIFTED WITH A CAPACITY OF EMPATHY
AND COMPASSION.
A QUALITY VERY, VERY APPEALING TO THOSE WHO MAY HAD THEIR
OWN STRUGGLES WITH SHYNESS AND UNCERTAINTY AND CERTAIN DRAWN
OTHERS TO HIM.
HARRISON HAD A PASSION FOR ADVENTURE, MOTION AND SPEED.
A BOY DISCOVERING THE JOYS OF SKATEBOARDING HE PUSHED
DISABILITY TO THE UTMOST, WHEN SOMETHING CAUGHT HIS
ATTENTION AND INTEREST, HE HAD A STRONG FOCUS AND STARTED
RESEARCHING AND LEARNING EVERYTHING -- EVERYTHING HE COULD
OF ALL DETAILS INVOLVED.
PEOPLE EVERYWHERE HAD NO PROBLEM WARMING UP TO HARRISON.
AT OXFORD EXCHANGE, HE WAS HARD-WORKING, DILIGENT AND KIND
COLLEAGUE DURING THE TWO YEARS HE WORKED THERE.
MANAGER SAID HE WAS A QUIET BOY AND THEN TWO WEEKS ON THE
JOB THEY SPOKE AND HARRISON HAD A HAWKS SMILE AND THEN JUST
LIKE THAT.
HARRISON'S CHALLENGE MAY HAVE MEANT THINGS SIMPLE FOR OTHER
KIDS WOULDN'T AS EASY FOR HIM, BUT DIDN'T DISCOURAGE HIM
SEEING LIFE AS AN ADVENTURE.
HE LOVED CAMPING TRIPS, HIKING, SKATEBOARDING
WITH FRIENDS, HE BIKED.
WHEN OLD ENOUGH TO DRIVE PICKED OUT A BRIGHT BLUE SUBARU WX
THAT HE ALSO LOVED.
HE WAS A SOURCE OF LAUGHTER AND LOVE FOR ALL THOSE WHO KNEW
HIM AND HE WAS WELL-KNOWN FOR HIS KINDNESS AND BEAUTIFUL
SMILE, AND HARRISON'S LIFE ENDED OCTOBER 9, 2023.
HE AND HIS FRIENDS HAVE GONE OUT AFTER A USUAL EVENING OF
DRIVING.
YOU KNOW THE 360 APP TO KNOW THE WHEREABOUTS OF MY CHILDREN.
YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
HARRISON'S DAILY MAPPING HISTORY LOOKED LIKE A SPIDER
WEB AND AFTER HIS FUNERAL, A CAR PARADE WITH HIS FRIENDS
THROUGH DAVIS ISLAND, BAYSHORE AND DOWNTOWN.
WENT TO YBOR CITY TO WATCH PEOPLE DRESS UP FOR HALLOWEEN.
HE WAS ONLY THERE TEN MINUTES GOING UP 7th AVENUE AND THEN
BACK AGAIN TO THE GARAGE WHERE THEY HAD PARKED.
18 PEOPLE HAD THEIR LIVES CHANGED FOREVER THAT DAY.
HARRISON WAS KILLED WITHIN SECONDS OF THE SHOOTING.
MY SON, AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER STANDING THERE WAS KILLED BY A
14-YEAR-OLD BOY.
HIS LOSS HAS BROKEN THE HEARTS OF OUR FAMILY AND EVERYONE
WHO KNEW HIM.
THAT MOMENT TOOK AWAY MY BRIGHT.
BEAUTIFUL SON BUT HAS LED TO THE RECOGNITION OF KINDNESS AND
HIS LEGACY, LET KINDNESS WIN.
THE COMPANIES THAT HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE ARE COMPANIES WE
HAVE KNOWN THROUGH HIS LIFE.
HE HAS BEEN A PART OF PEPIN FOUNDATION.
THE RONALD McDONALD TRAINING CENTER.
HE STAYED THERE FOR A WHILE.
KAREN CLAY.
TAMPA PALMS OWNERSHIP ASSOCIATION AND JUST ALL THESE
ELEMENTS MAKE ME JOYOUS TO THINK HIS NAME WILL BE ON THAT
PART.
MORE FORTUNATE THAN OTHERS AND DIDN'T KNOW IF HE WOULD WALK
OR TALK.
EVEN THE GUYS AS THE NEUROLOGIST SAID THEY WEREN'T SURE IF
HE WOULD BE ABLE TO TALK.
HE MAY HAVE TO TALK THROUGH A COMPUTER.
NOPE, EVEN AFTER FIVE YEARS BEFORE HEARING, HE DID IT ALL
AND THAT BRINGS STUFF WITH IT.
LIKE I SAID PEPIN AND ALSO I WAS GOING TO SAY TOO.
I AM PROUD OF HARRISON AND PROUD OF HIS SISTER, AVA AND THE
REST OF MY FAMILY, NICHOLAS.
WHEN HARRISON WAS LITTLE, HE WAS REALLY PETITE.
SO SOME KIDS DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY WITH HIM BECAUSE THEY
THOUGHT HE WAS A BABY.
AND HE DIDN'T TALK THAT WELL.
BUT HE WAS THE ONE WHEN AVA AND HE WOULD GO TO THE PARK, AND
HE WOULD BE PUSHING THE SWING WITH THE LITTLER KID.
I MEAN HE JUST CARED ABOUT EVERYBODY.
TO ME, THAT IS AN AMAZING LEGACY AND IT IS AN AMAZING LEGACY
OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES.
BY THIS UNFORTUNATE GUN VIOLENCE.
BUT THE REALITY IS -- IS MY LIFE IS IMPORTANT TO AND FUELED
BY THE ACTIONS THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO.
IT IS A CRAZY WORLD RIGHT NOW, BUT HE IS THE PRODUCT MUCH
PEOPLE CARING ABOUT HIM.
AND UNDERSTANDING OF HIM WHETHER HE NEVER WALKED OR
ANYTHING.
SO THIS IS A REAL THRILL FOR US TO BE PART OF THE HANDICAP
PARK.
AND I JUST APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH.
AND I WANT MY SON'S BEAUTIFUL PICTURE TO BE AT THE PARK --
OH, IS THAT IT?
OKAY.
HE JUST REALLY WAS SOMETHING THAT I THINK ALSO IN THE
GENERAL SCOPE OF THINGS OUR CHILDREN DON'T HAVE THAT.
SO BEATEN DOWN AND SO.
I WANT THIS TO BE A STORY NOT ABOUT THE GUNS BUT ALL THE
THINGS HE OVERCAME AND ALL THE QUALITIES AND PEOPLE -- EVEN
KIDS EVEN WITHOUT HANDICAP AND SPECIAL NEEDS, THEY ARE
BROKEN.
AND SO I LOVE THE PARK TO HAVE A SPACE AND SAY LET KINDNESS
WIN AND INSPIRE OTHERS.
02:16:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, MRS. BOONSTOPPEL, IT WILL BE
MY HONOR TO SUPPORT THIS.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY.
I REMEMBER WHEN THAT HAPPENED, WHEN THE NEWS CAME OUT.
I WAS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND FIRST THING I SAW,
MASS SHOOTING IN YBOR CITY.
WITH THE CHIEF HE WAS SO DILIGENT WITH HIS TEAM, WALKING
THROUGH YBOR CITY.
VISITING WITH PEOPLE.
INCREASING THE POLICE PRESENCE.
WE WERE OUT TOGETHER ONE NIGHT.
MY WIFE WAS WITH US.
AND, YOU KNOW YOUR STORY ABOUT YOUR SON IS SO -- SORRY, I
CRY -- NOT THE FIRST TIME.
BUT, HE IS AN EXAMPLE OF -- WHAT WE SHOULD BE.
02:17:05PM >> YES.
02:17:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND THESE -- IN THESE TERRIBLE -- YOU
KNOW POLITICS IS CRAZY.
THE WORLD IS CRAZY, BUT EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID IS SO
INSPIRATIONAL.
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH.
AND I CAN -- I CAN OFFER MY CONDOLENCES ON OUR BEHALF.
YOU KNOW, HIS NAME WILL LIVE ON AND HE WILL BE REMEMBERED
AS, AS A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING, SO -- YEAH.
02:17:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND I -- I WAS HOLDING BACK TEARS JUST LISTENING TO YOU,
BRUCY, AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, NOT A DAMN
BAD THING ABOUT CRYING.
I AM HOLDING BACK TEARS RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, THAT PARK IS ABOUT EMPATHY, COMPASSION, TOLERANCE
AND DECENCY AND THE LEGACY OF HARRISON.
100%.
AND I -- I -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY HAS TO BE SAID
IS THE COURAGE IT TAKES YOU TO COME UP HERE.
YOU HAVE BEEN IN MANY FORUMS, ON GUN VIOLENCE, DISABILITIES,
VICTIMS OF CRIME AND SO FORTH TO BEAR -- DAMN IT, JUST YOUR
-- THE WORST PAIN A PERSON CAN HAVE AND TO TALK ABOUT THAT
PUBLICLY TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE.
THAT -- THAT IS AN ACT OF HEART AND LOVE THAT -- THAT IS
GREAT COURAGE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE COMING HERE AND TELLING THIS STORY OF
HARRISON.
I MEAN I -- LIKE THE FIRST YEAR NOT KNOWING IF HE IS GOING
TO LIVE.
I THINK IT WAS GOING TO MIDDLE SCHOOL WEIGHING 60 POUNDS
BEING A GRADUATE OF PEPIN ACADEMY.
02:18:55PM >> HE WAS A LITTLE DUDE.
02:18:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WITH A BIG HEART.
AND THAT STORY, THINGS LIKE THAT DON'T HAPPEN BY THEMSELVES.
THEY -- THEY HAPPEN WITH A MOM AND A DAD WITH PARENTS, A
FAMILY AND WITH PEOPLE THAT LOVE THEM.
THAT IS WHAT Y'ALL DID AND YOU WILL STILL LOVE HIM AND WILL
LOVE HIM FOREVER.
HIS STORY, WE CAN -- YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT THAT
THE PARK.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS ABOUT.
02:19:19PM >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY BEAUTIFUL.
02:19:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
02:19:22PM >> HIS LIFE WAS A VICTORY.
THE UNFORTUNATE OF WHERE WE ARE LIVING IN THIS WORLD IS THAT
AND WE KNOW IT IS THERE.
MEANWHILE KEEP KIDS AFLOAT AND MYSELF AFLOAT.
EVERY TIME I DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THIS POURS IN THE
STRENGTH, LOVE AND FUEL THAT I NEED TO GO FORWARD.
SO, YEAH, EVERY DAY IT IS WITHOUT HIM.
BUT EVERY TIME I DO SOMETHING OR TALK TO SOMEBODY -- I TALK
TO EVERYBODY ABOUT HARRISON.
AND IT'S -- IT IS UPLIFTING FOR ME.
IT'S UPSETTING TO GET THERE, BUT AFTER IT JUST SHOWS ME ALL
THE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD THAT ARE FEELING THE SAME WAY, YOU
KNOW, SO, YEAH.
02:20:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT IS JUST MOURNING
-- TRYING TO BE STRONG IN BROKEN PLACE BUS COMMEMORATING
DECENCY.
THAT'S IT.
DECENCY.
02:20:21PM >> THAT IS WHAT HIS LEGACY IS GOING TO BE ABOUT.
ABOUT KINDNESS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THIS WORLD.
THERE IS A LOT OF REASONS FOR IT, BUT THE FACT IS, HE JUST
ALWAYS DID THAT.
AND WHEN HE WAS LITTLE AND GROWING UP AND EVEN IN HIGH
SCHOOL, HIS FRIENDS -- THE PARENTS TOLD ME HE WAS LIKE THE
CHEER LEADER.
YOU COME TO THE HOUSE WITH THE LOUD CAR MOTOR GOING AND HIS
FRIEND WOULD SAY, OH, HARRISON IS HERE, AND THE MOM WILL
SAY, HARRISON IS HERE!
EVERYBODY WOULD KIND OF GET READY BECAUSE HE CAME IN WITH
THAT POSITIVITY AND STUFF.
AND HE BECAME THE ONE THAT A LOT OF HIS FRIENDS CONFIDED IN
HIM WHEN THEY WERE HAVING ISSUES.
HE WOULD BE THE ONE HE WOULD WANT TO TALK TO.
COACHING ON.
THE BOY THAT WENT THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF ALREADY.
I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT EDUCATION PROCESS TOO FOR A --
ALONG WITH THAT IS JUST MAKING KIDS FEEL LIKE THEIR LIFE IS
NOT PREDETERMINED.
02:21:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AMEN.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:21:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE NEED AN OFFICIAL MOTION?
02:21:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I -- UNLESS ANYONE ON COUNCIL WANTS TO --
WHAT I WANT TO DO, IF I MAY, YOU HAVE MENTIONED THIS
PICTURE.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION AND A COUPLE OF THINGS.
MISS VAN LOAN, WHAT MOTION DO WE NEED TO MAKE TO BRING THIS
BACK TO A VOTE TO MAKE THIS OFFICIAL?
AND HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU ALL NEED?
02:21:49PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN:
MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR FIRST READING IF IT IS THE
PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
MAY 15 OR ANY DATE AFTER THAT.
02:21:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SWELL.
IF I MAY, MAKE A MOTION FOR FIRST READING FOR THE NAMING OF
THE ALL ABILITIES PARK TO HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL AND TWO OTHER
ATTACHMENTS THAT CITY STAFF WORK WITH A PLAQUE OF THIS
PHOTOGRAPH ON THERE THAT CAN WORK WITH YOUR FAMILY.
WHAT GOES THERE.
AND THAT THERE WILL BE A SIGN AT THE ACTUAL PARK AND THEN ON
NEW TAMPA BOULEVARD ON THE PARK BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO A
WHILE AWAY TO GET TO THE ACTUAL PARK SO FOLKS WILL KNOW THAT
-- THEY WERE WORKING ON THAT ANYWAY FOR THE ALL PARK.
BUT TWO SIGNS, IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE NEW TAMPA REC
CENTER AND GOING INTO THE PARK.
I DID WANT TO MENTION ON -- ON BACKGROUND THAT, AGAIN, THIS
-- THIS -- HARRISON'S LIFE FITS INTO WHAT THIS PARK IS ALL
ABOUT.
THAT IS MY MOTION, IF I MAY.
02:22:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
02:23:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT UP, GO BACK TO THE BUNKER GEAR AND
CHIEF TRIPP.
BEFORE WE BEGIN, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON
95.
96, CAN WE RECEIVE AND FILE THAT?
02:23:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, THAT IS ON -- YES, SO THAT IS --
IN-PERSON REPORTS AND THEN QUARTERLY IN-PERSON REPORTS AND
MONTHLY WRITTEN REPORTS AND, YES, I LIKE IN THERE THAT I SAW
THE MEMO SAID THEY WERE TRYING TO ACCELERATE EVERYTHING
WHICH I KNOW IS THE HEART OF CHIEF TRIPP ON THIS AND ON THE
UNION.
AND NICHOLAS STOCCO.
I NEED TO GET NEW GLASSES, BY THE WAY, AND EVERYBODY HERE.
SO WHEN IS THE --
02:23:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
APRIL 17 IS THE NEXT MONTHLY WRITTEN
REPORT.
02:23:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY BE THE FIRST LIVE REPORT?
02:24:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 15.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ONE OF TWO.
REQUESTING THAT SAID ITEM BE CONTINUED TO A DATE AND TIME
WITH THE FY '25 MIDYEAR REPORT.
DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THEIR?
02:24:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHEN IS THE REPORT, LET'S SEE HERE.
MAY 15.
02:24:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO MAY 15, 2025.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
NOW WE HAVE TO DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 95.
AND CHIEF TRIPP IS HERE.
IS SHE HERE TO SPEAK OF 95 AND THE BUNKER GEAR?
02:24:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THERE IS THE ITEM ITSELF, 95 THE
ADMINISTRATION REPORT OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF BENNETT OR CHIEF TRIPP -- WHEN I DID
THAT MEMO, I MADE TO PUT ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE A LOT OF
TIME IT COULD BE PURCHASING OR ONE DEPARTMENT AUTOMAKERS I
DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION.
ANOTHER REASON.
WE HEARD A LOT ON THIS ISSUE, ED KELLY WITH THE PRESIDENT OF
THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS WRITE HIS
CORRESPOND DENSE.
CHIEF TRIPP WROTE A RESPONSE TO THE CORRESPONDENCE.
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, FROM MR. KELLY TO THE IAFF TO
JIMMY PETRONIS OR THE CFO IN THE STATE OF THE FLORIDA AND
INCUMBENT AS TO THE STATUS AND GET AN UP-FRONT PICTURE FOR
EVERYBODY GIVEN THAT LETTER OF SCRUTINY, WANT TO KNOW AND
THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR BEING HERE.
02:25:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP.
TAKE IT AWAY.
02:25:43PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
BARBARA TRIPP, CHIEF FOR FIRE RESCUE.
IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 95.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT FIRST AND THEN GO INTO OTHER --
02:25:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS FINE.
02:25:53PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
-- OTHER SITUATIONS.
BUNKER GEAR IS FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS IS
OUT THERE AND, OF COURSE, WITH YOU CAN YOU GUYS' APPROVAL,
TO APPROVE THE BUNKER GEAR.
LAST CONTRACT, WE APPROVED FOR EVERYONE TO GET A SECOND SET
OF BUNKER GEAR THAT HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE AND SUPPOSED TO BE
DONE OVER INCREMENT.
WE ARE TALKING OF MONEY AND NOT ISSUE ALL AT ONCE.
WE HAVE EMPLOYEE THAT WILL GET THE SECOND SET OF BUNKER
GEAR.
AND WITH THE MANUFACTURERS.
WE TALKED OF THE LETTERS GO TO THIS AMOUNT.
THIS AMOUNT IS SPACED OUT ON BUNKER GEAR THAT WILL BE
EXPIRED.
WE ALSO INCLUDE BUNKER GEAR FOR NEW HIREES, HIRES.
AND ANY BUNKER GEAR BECAUSE WE NEED A CERTAIN PERILS DAMAGE
OF LONER -- PERCENT OF LONER GEAR.
YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY SEEN THIS AND THROUGH 2028.
I WILL CONFIRM THE DATE.
DON'T QUOTE ME ON IT.
THAT IS WHY THAT AMOUNT IS WHAT IT WILL NOW.
THAT TAKES CARE OF 95.
AS FAR AS THE LETTERS THAT ARE GOING ALL OVER THE UNITED
STATES.
AS I SPOKE WITH LOCAL 754 AND I TOLD MY DIRECT REPORT WITH
THE MAJOR, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ISSUING THAT BUNKER GEAR
NOT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO HOLD IT FOR ANY PARTICULAR REASON.
WE GO TO THE MANUFACTURER AND SAY WE NEED BUNKER GEAR AND
END UP WITH THE JACKET AND NOT THE PANTS.
PANTS COME LATER.
WE HAD TO SEND SOME OF THAT BUNKER GEAR BACK TO GET A
DIFFERENT KIND OF HARNESS THAT WE ARE RECEIVING THAT.
AS I SPEAK AND MY LETTER THAT WENT TOP MR. KELLY.
I ADVISED HIM THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DISTRIBUTING IN
BUNKER GEAR -- WHEN THE INDIVIDUALS COME IN, WE CAN'T DO IT
AT ONCE.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS -- IT IS FITTED
RIGHT MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS OR CHANGES.
IT IS A PROCESS AND SOMETHING TRYING TO DO FOR TAMPA FIRE
RESCUE, FOR THE TECHNOLOGY.
WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD INVENTORY SYSTEM.
EVERYTHING IS PAPER SO IT TAKES LONGER.
ONCE WE GET THIS NEW SUPPLY AND FLEET FACILITY WILL HELP OUT
WITH BEING ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS AND WITH INVENTORY AND
DO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PLANS I KNOW THE INFORMATION IS OUT
THERE THEY ARE IN UNCLEAN BUNKER GEAR.
THAT IS NOT TRUE.
WE HAVE S.O.G. POLICY THAT TALKS OF CONTAMINATED EXPOSED
GEAR AND WHAT NEEDS TO DONE BE.
WE KEEP A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LONER GEAR IF AN INDIVIDUAL GOES
TO A FIRE OR WHEREVER THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO, COME BACK AND BE
DONE WITH THIS EQUIPMENT AND GET THAT GEAR WASHED.
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
I HAVE NORTHWEST BEEN TOLD OF ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT WENT TO
GET REPLACEMENT DEAL.
AND NOT HAVING THAT GEAR AVAILABLE.
I DON'T KNOW.
NO ONE HAS COME TO TELL ME I DON'T KNOW WITH THE E-MAILS
GOING BACK THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE UNDER CLEAN GEAR.
UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL IF THEY HAVE GEAR TO GET IT PLACED.
WE HAVE IT WASHED AND CLEAN AND BY THEIR DEW POINTY DATE.
02:29:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA?
02:29:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT I SUBJECT WE DO, COUNCIL, BECAUSE, AGAIN,
WE -- AND I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON
THIS.
AND EVERYTHING IS THAT YOU KNOW GETTING A LETTER FROM ED
KELLY AND ME LEAD RESPONDED AND SO FORTH.
I HOLD -- I HOLD MR. KELLY IN HIGH REGARD ON A PROFESSIONAL
BASIS, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL.
WHAT I SUGGEST WE DO, COUNCIL.
MAYBE IN FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS TO DO AN UPDATE TO WITH A MOTION
TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT IS THIS.
LET ME ASK YOU, CHIEF, IF I MAY.
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE TO HAVE WHAT MR. KELLY
EXPRESSES IN HIS CORRESPONDENCE GETTING DONE?
TO HAVE ALL THE BUNKER GEAR WE HAVE DISTRIBUTED AND APPROVED
IN THE LATTER HALF OF 2023 IF I RECALL CORRECTLY AND I THEY
MANUFACTURING ISSUE AUTOS.
02:30:07PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
WHAT MY DIVISION HAVE DONE IS SEPARATING THAT
GEAR.
HAVE BARBARA TRIPP HAVE HER TOP, BOTTOM AND HER HARNESS.
ONCE ALL OF THAT -- HA COMPLETE SET.
WE DON'T WANT TO ISSUE INCOMPLETE SETS.
WE DON'T WANT BARBARA TRIPP TO GET A PAIR OF MONTHS AND NOT
HAVE HER JACKET.
RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING, THEY ARE ACTUALLY GATHERING
ALL OF THAT.
SEPARATING IT BY DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW AND SHIFTS AND
DISTRIBUTING THAT INFORMATION AS WE SPEAK.
TIME-WISE, ALL DEPENDS ON PERSONNEL BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN THE
INDIVIDUAL HAS TO TRY IT ON.
IF THEY ARE OFF DUTY ANNUALLY AND THEN THEY ARE NOT AT WORK.
MAN POWER PLAY AS BIG ROLE IN IT AND I USE THE WORD
"LOGISTICS" AS FAR AS THE TECHNOLOGY.
02:30:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
I SEE THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE WOULD BE APRIL 1.
02:30:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT ENOUGH TIME, CHIEF?
02:31:02PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES, SIR.
02:31:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL HAVE A MOTION.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:31:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHIEF TRIPP, HOW ARE YOU?
TRIM TRIPP GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:31:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANY COMPLETE SETS THAT HAVE BEEN
DISTRIBUTED?
02:31:16PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
SOME HAVE.
I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER, BUT I CAN GET TO YOU.
THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED.
02:31:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THIS PROCEDURE OF THE UNCLEANLINESS OF
THE GEAR.
THERE IS A PROCEDURE IN PLACE FOR A FIRE PERSON TO COME IN
AND SUBMIT THAT GEAR OR HAVE IT CLEANED.
DOES THAT HAPPEN?
ANYONE EVER DONE THAT?
02:31:41PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES AND NO.
VARIES ON THE INDIVIDUALS.
OUR S.O.G. --
02:31:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
02:31:49PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
STANDARD OPERATING GUIDELINES.
IF ANYTHING IS GOING ON WITH THAT AND YOU HAVE TO DECON HOW
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT REPLACED.
SOME STATIONS WHICH WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET
WHAT WE CALL DISTRACTERS WHERE THE INDIVIDUALS CAN WASH
THEIR GEAR.
THIS IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE PEOPLE STATIONS ARE OLDER AND
DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT RECEPTACLES TO PUT THAT EQUIPMENT IN.
WE HAVE PROCEDURES AND THE STANDARD OPERATING GUIDELINES
SECTION 503 HOW TO GO AND DECON THE EQUIPMENT AND TAKE TO
THE IS UP FLY WHERE THEY WASH THE GEAR AND RETURN IT BY THE
NEXT DUTY DATE.
02:32:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ANYONE EVER DONE THAN.
02:32:29PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
WE HAVE HAD SOME.
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN PHONE CALLS.
WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF GEAR BECAUSE WE HAD 100 PEOPLE COME IN
AND REPLACE THEIR GEARS.
02:32:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ONLY NEGATIVE REPORTS.
02:32:41PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I TELL MY SUPPLY DIVISION IF THEY RUN INTO
ANY KIND OF CHALLENGES, THEY SHOULD FORWARD THAT UP TO
ADMINISTRATION TO LET US KNOW IF THERE HAVE PROBLEMS OF GEAR
NOT AVAILABLE OR IF THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH CERTAIN GEAR.
02:32:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST SAYS TO ME WHOEVER IS PUTTING OUT
THERE THAT THE BUNKER GEAR IS DIRTY.
LEAST FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
THEY FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURE AND GOT IT BACK STILL DIRTY.
MEANS THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE FIRST GET THAT
CLEAN.
02:33:16PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES, MA'AM.
THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN WITH THE INFORMATION OUT
THERE AND PUTTING INFORMATION OUT THERETO THAT IS REALLY NOT
TRUE.
IF THEY GO AND TURN THEIR GEAR IN.
THEY SAY WE CAN'T GET YOUR GEAR BACK AND NOTHING FOR
REPLACEMENT, NOW A PROBLEM AND ADMINISTRATION HAS A PROBLEM.
I HAVEN'T HAD THAT BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TO SAY, HEY,
INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO REPLACE THEIR GEAR AND THE GEAR IS
NOT AVAILABLE.
WE HAVE REPAIRS AND INDIVIDUAL SWITCH-OUT GEAR IN A CAR
DURING THE EXTRICATION AND BOTH HAVE COATS AND GO OUT FOR
REPAIRS.
THE SAME PROCEDURES.
02:33:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOR 754 PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT THE
PROCEDURES HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED.
AND IT IS STILL NOT BEING DONE.
..CHIEF TRIPP: YES.
02:34:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT WOULD BE FAIR?
02:34:08PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THAT WOULD BE FAIR.
02:34:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB
02:34:14PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
EXACTLY.
02:34:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I HAVE TO READ THROUGH THIS.
EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT.
YOU ARE IN THE LEADERSHIP POSITION AND THEY ARE IN THE
UNION.
SO IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO KEEP UP WITH IT.
I DON'T LIKE READING THINGS ON THE SURFACE.
THE 754 FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THESE PROCEDURES.
S.O.G.s.
02:34:35PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THEY GOT A HAND DELIVERED COPY.
ANY CHANGES WE MAKE, THEY GET A COPY OF THAT AS WELL.
02:34:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHAT DO THEY WANT FROM YOU AT THIS POINT?
02:34:44PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I DON'T KNOW HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.
JUST AS I WANT TO GET RID OF THE GEAR, I WANT TO GET RID OF
IT.
STEPS AND PROCEDURES THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
I CAN'T DROP OFF 20 SETS OF GEAR AT A STATION AND
INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT THERE.
THEY ARE EXPENSIVE SO EVERY ONE HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR.
02:35:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THERE ARE COMPLETE SETS AVAILABLE.
02:35:13PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
COMPLETE SETS AVAILABLE WE ARE ISSUING OUT.
02:35:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY.
IF IT IS NOT, THAT IS THE REPORT I WOULD WANT, THE REPORT TO
EXIST TO SAY THIS NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE
TO RECEIVE THE FULL BUNKER GEAR BECAUSE PANTS ARE MISSING OR
NOT THE RIGHT SIZE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
02:35:37PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
OKAY.
02:35:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS WHAT I WOULD WANT.
THAT WOULD SAY THEY FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURE, S.O.G. TO GET TO
THAT POINT.
02:35:44PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE
BEEN MEASURED, BUT HAVE NOT ORDERED THEIR SECOND GEAR
BECAUSE WE HAD TO WAIT FOR THIS FUNDING TO COME THROUGH.
02:35:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST -- YOU SHOULD CONSIDER USING THAT
DATA AS WELL TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF
WHAT YOU FACE ON A REGULAR BASIS AS THE CHIEF OF THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT.
BUT THANK YOU.
02:36:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:36:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS
ON SOME OF THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS IS -- IS -- YOU AND I
HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST AND I HAD THE
CONVERSATIONS OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE 754 AS WELL.
THIS ISSUE ISN'T NECESSARILY ABOUT BUNKER GEAR.
THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF MANAGEMENT AND LABOR IN THE UNION.
A BREAKDOWN OF RELATIONSHIPS.
WE CAN TRY TO POINT I THINK IF PERCENT ALL DAY LONG, BUT I
-- WE HAVE HAD -- I THINK BETWEEN YOU AND THE PRESIDENT AND
THE LEADERSHIP OF -- YOUR LEADERSHIP TEAM AND THE
PRESIDENT'S LEADERSHIP TEAM.
SOMEHOW Y'ALL HAVE GOT TO GET DOWN -- SEPTEMBER DOWN AND -
SIT DOWN AND THINK OF HOW MUCH TIME IS WASTED OF YOUR
PRODUCTIVITY.
AND WHAT THE UNION IS DOING.
I KNOW YOU ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE THE BUNKER
GEAR WHICH WE ARE KINDS OF AT COMPLIANCE OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
THAT WAS A BUDGET -- LAST YEAR WE WERE CONTRACTUALLY
OBLIGATED.
02:37:15PM >> CONTRACT DON'T END UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
02:37:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KNEW IT WAS LAST YEAR, I DIDN'T REALIZE
SEPTEMBER 2.
OBVIOUSLY, I AM A LABOR GUY AND ON BOTH SIDES.
I HAVE BEEN IN MANAGEMENT AND LABOR DEALING WITH THESE KINDS
OF ISSUES.
I KNOW WHEN THESE KINDS OF ISSUES RISE UP, A BREAKDOWN OF
RELATIONSHIPS.
IF WE CAN FIX THAT RELATIONSHIP, WE WILL SAVE YOU TIME,
AGGRAVATION.
SAVE THEM TIME AGGRAVATION AND THE CITY OF TAMPA TAXPAYER
MONEY BECAUSE ALL OF THIS COSTS MONEY.
I URGE TO YOU DIG DEEP AND FIGURE OUT AT WAY TO REBUILD THE
KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS TO -- SO THAT WHEN THESE KIND OF
THINGS COME UP THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN A FORMAL WAY AND HAVE
THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND SAY, HEY, HOW DO
WE CREATE -- MAYBE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU FEEL
LIKE, THE ROLE OF MANAGE.
THE AND LABOR.
BUT SIT DOWN AND SAY HOW CAN WE DISTRIBUTE LIKE YOU SAID
PIECEMEAL.
I IF IT CAN'T HAPPEN, IT CAN'T HAPPEN AND HERE YOU ARE.
WE NEED TO REASON IT TO DO BUSINESS LIKE THIS.
IDEALLY NOT THE BEST WAY TO DO BUSINESS.
I THINK YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
YOU AND I HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
AND HOPEFULLY THE 7574 CAN BEND SOME AND YOU CAN FIGURE OUT
A BETTER WAY FORWARD.
02:38:38PM >> I AGREE WITH YOU.
IF I CAN COMMENT ON THAT.
RESPECT IS OWED TO EVERYBODY.
AND THE AMOUNT OF RESPECT THAT IS RECEIVED, YOU KNOW TOWARDS
ME IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
02:38:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HEAR YOU.
AND I THINK -- I THINK THE SAME THING.
I BET IF I ASKED THEM, THEY WOULD SAY THE SAME THING.
DISRESPECT OF THE UNION.
UP WOULDN'T TAKE YOU GUYS OUT OF THIS OF THIS.
BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS WORLD IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT
ENVIRONMENT.
I KNOW HOW THESE THINGS BREAK DOWN AND HOW THE RELATIONSHIPS
FALL APART.
AND -- WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LOWEST POINT WHAT WE DID
WAS GO OFF-CAMPUS AND DONE SOME TEAM BUILDING AND TRIED TO
REBUILD THAT RESPECT AND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE IF -- BUT IT HAS
TO BE BOTH OF YOU GUYS OPEN TO DO IT.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE TO TRY TO REBUILD THOSE
RELATIONSHIPS SO OTHERWISE -- I FEEL BAD FOR ALL OF Y'ALL,
BECAUSE WHAT A PAIN IN THE BUTT FOR YOU AND A PAIN IN THE
BUTT FOR THE UNION AND THE UNION -- AND LIVING IN THIS KIND
OF ENVIRONMENT AND MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION AND I WISH
THAT FOR YOU ALL BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE YOU MUCH MORE HAPPY IN
YOUR -- IN YOUR PROFESSION AL LIVES.
02:39:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN I
HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET.
02:40:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE MORE I LISTEN, THE MORE CON FUSED I
GET.
RAID SOMETHING IN THE NEWSPAPER, "TAMPA BAY TIMES" THAT THE
FIRE FIGHTER WENT TO SOME FIRE AND NO BUNKER GEAR AVAILABLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS FACTUAL OR NOT.
MAYBE I DREAMT IT, I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
WHEN THE EQUIPMENT COMES IN, YOU HAVE TO DISTRIBUTE IT OUT.
YOU HAVE 24 FIRE STATIONS, CORRECT?
02:40:28PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES, SIR.
02:40:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SEVEN DAY AS BIKE AND 307 DAYS ON THE
CALENDAR.
WHEN IT COMES IN -- I AM NOT TRYING TO TELL YOU OREGON THE
UNION WHAT TO DO.
DISTRIBUTION SHOULD BE AT THE STATION WHERE THEY ARE AT.
DELIVER THEM TO THEM.
I WOULD IMAGINE SOMEBODY KNOWS WHAT IS SIZE THEY WEAR AND IT
WAS ORDERED THAT WAY IT.
SOMETIMES YOU ORDER A SUIT.
A LITTLE TIGHTER OR LOOSER THAN WHAT YOU NEED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I DON'T SEE DISTRIBUTION BEING A BIG DEAL I DON'T SEE IT
FROM YOUR SIDE OR FROM THE UNION SIDE.
I AM SPEAKING AS GUY NEXT DOOR.
I DON'T THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL.
HOW MANY OF THE FIRE STATION.
10, 12.
PUT THEM ON AND SEE IF THEY FIT.
02:41:19PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THAT WILL BE PERFECT IF IT WAS UNISEX, ONE
SIZE FITS ALL BUT IT IS MEASURED.
02:41:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I SAID DIFFERENT SIZES.
THEY CAN TRY THEM OUT THERE.
I JUST -- I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN I DON'T THINK IT IS DIFFICULT TO MAKE THE
DISTRIBUTION.
02:41:39PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
IT IS NOT.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, EVERYBODY HAS TO TRY THE GEAR IN.
02:41:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THREE SHIFTS FOR THREE DAYS.
YOU ARE NOT GET THEM ALL, BUT THE PREPONDERANCE OF THEM.
02:41:48PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
WE ARE DEFINITELY DISTRIBUTING THAT GEAR.
THANK YOU.
02:41:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:41:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I AM KIND OF AT A LOSS OF WORDS.
I WAS LISTENING TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
AND REALLY THERE IS UNFORTUNATELY SOME PROBLEMS THAT YOU ARE
NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE.
MAYOR JANE CASTOR APPOINTED YOU OF THE CHIEF OF FIRE AND
RESCUE, A WOMAN, A BLACK WOMAN, AND THERE IS A LOT BEHIND
THAT THAT IS NOT BEING SPOKEN TODAY.
AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
YOU JUST GOT TO SAY PRAYED UP.
THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
SOME OF THIS -- IF YOU ALREADY EXPRESSED THERE IS A
PROCEDURE IN PLACE.
LIKE I SAID, THE DOCUMENTATION, IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT, BASED
ON WHAT -- WHAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE AS THE LEADER, BUT I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE THAT DATA, YOU KNOW, JUST READING THAT THE
BUNKER GEAR IS DIRTY AND THEY DON'T HAVE IT, BUT YET THE
PROCEDURES HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWED.
I AM -- I JUST -- I AM NOT LISTENING TO THE NOISE.
I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
02:43:03PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THANK YOU.
02:43:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MAYBE SUPPORT ABOVE YOU AND BELOW YOU TO
DO YOUR JOB EFFECTIVELY.
02:43:13PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
02:43:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:43:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOTION TO COME BACK WITH THE STATUS OF THE
BUNKER GEAR ON MAY 1.
02:43:21PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES, SIR.
02:43:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SOME RESOLUTION BEFORE THAT WE CAN TAKE IT OFF
THE DOCKET, THAT IS GREAT.
WE DO THAT SO WE CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THIS.
GIVEN THAT CORRESPONDENCE WE NEED SCRUTINY.
02:43:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:43:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
ITEM NUMBER 59, GO AHEAD AND MOVE IT.
02:43:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO MOVED.
02:43:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FOR ITEM 95, SECOND BY COUNCIL
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE A REVIEW HEARING.
ITEM NUMBER 89, FILED BY TOM HANKS -- NOT THAT TOM HANKS.
BUT, I DON'T KNOW, ARE YOU TOM HANKS?
YES, MA'AM.
02:44:08PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, SUSAN
JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ITEM NUMBER 89 REVIEW HEARING FOR IF HE OF
REVIEW VRB 24-56.
PETITIONER AS YOU NOTICED IS MR. THOMAS HANKS.
THERE WERE TWO VARIANCES REQUESTED IN THIS APPLICATION.
FIRST IS A REQUEST TO REDUCE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FRONT
MACHINE YARD SETBACK FROM 06 FEET DOWN TO 1 FOOT.
SECOND REQUEST TO REDUCE THE BACK-UP GIVES STANCE FROM TEN
FEET TO ONE FOOT FOR A TWO-CAR PARKING STRUCTURE.
02:44:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MA'AM, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, I NEED TO
SWEAR EVERYBODY IN.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK.
MR. HANKS.
02:44:48PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
STEVEN EYSTER.
02:44:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE IS ON LINE.
[SWEARING IN]
02:44:58PM >> YES.
02:44:59PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I WILL CONTINUE.
PETITIONER -- THE APPLICATION IS WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT IN
THE PACKETS THANK YOU DISTRIBUTED TO YOU.
THE -- THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED TO YOU THE PETITIONER CITED
THREE REASONS FOR HIS REQUEST OR THREE JUSTIFICATIONS.
HIS PROPERTY BEING NARROW AND NOT HAVING ENOUGH SPACE ON
EITHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO DRIVE A VEHICLE TO THE BACK OF
THE HOUSE.
THERE BEING NO OTHER OPTION FOR PLACEMENT OF A CARPORT.
AND FINALLY, ADDITIONAL BENEFITS OF A CARPORT FOR GROUND
EROSION AND SOLAR PROTECTION.
TRANSPORTATION FOUND IT INCONSISTENT AND THE CODE REQUIRES
THAT THE STRUCTURAL EDGE TO THE VEHICULAR ENTRANCE TO A
TWO-CARPORT BE SET BACK MINIMUM OF TEN FEET.
MELANIE CALLOWAY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS HERE.
COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS OF TRANSPORTATION FINDINGS.
VRB DETERMINED THAT THIS REQUEST DID NOT MEET THE VARIANCE
FOR 27-80 AND, THEREFORE, DENIED THE APPLICATION.
AS PART OF COUNCIL'S PACKET, I PROVIDE YOU A COPY OF 27-880,
WHICH IS THE APPLICATION OF THE VARIANCE POWER.
ITCH LIVE PROVIDED YOU THE REVIEW HEARING PROCEDURES IN
27-61-J-2.
I PROVIDED YOU THE TWO CODE SECTIONS THAT THE REQUEST -- THE
VARIANCE REQUEST APPLIES TO SECTIONS 27-290 REGARDING
ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SETBACKS.
AND SECTION 27-156-C WHICH ADDRESSES THE STRUCTURAL EDGE OF
THE TWO-CAR CARPORT BEING SET BACK TEN FEET FROM THE
PROPERTY LINE.
THE FINAL PAGE IN YOUR PACKAGE ARE SAMPLE MOTIONS FOR
COUNCIL.
AND I WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT WHEN -- IN THESE REVIEW
HEARS COUNCIL HAS DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW THAT COUNCIL
MAY TAKE NEW EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND DETERMINE
IF THE PETITION MEETS THE VARIANCE CRITERIA ACCORDING TO THE
CITY CODE.
COUNCIL MUST ALSO, THOUGH, FOLLOW THE APPLICABLE ORDINANCE
AND 27-80 WITH THE VARIANCE APPLICATION.
HARDSHIP IS ONE OF THE CRITERIA WHAT THE VARIANCE REVIEW
BOARD MUST MIND A HARDSHIP BEFORE BEING AUTHORIZED WITH CODE
TO GRANT A VARIANCE.
STEVEN EYSTER FROM STAFF IS HERE.
COUNCIL MAY AFFIRM DECISION BY THE VRB AND UPHOLD THE DENIAL
OF THIS APPLICATION OR COUNCIL MAY OVERTURN THE DECISION BY
THE VRB AND APPROVE IT A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE.
IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM
BUT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. EYSTER.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
YOU ARE MUTED, SIR.
02:48:00PM >>STEVEN EYSTER:
MY NAME IS STEVEN EYSTER, URBAN PLANNER 2
WITH PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
MAY I HAVE PER MISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN?
02:48:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST A MOMENT AND WE WILL BRING IT UP.
02:48:17PM >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE MY SCREEN.
02:48:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT IS COMING.
THEY ARE MAKING IT BIGGER AND TAKE UP THE WHOLE SCREEN AND
WE WILL SEE THE POWERPOINT.
CAN YOU MAKE IT BIGGER ON YOUR SCREEN?
LET'S SEE IF I CAN SWITCH MY SCREEN MANISCALCO OKAY, THERE
YOU GO.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
02:48:59PM >> OKAY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
SO IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS VRB 24-56-C WHICH IS 8406 NORTH
EDISON AVENUE.
THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
HILLS NAME IS THOMAS HANKS.
8406 NORTH EDISON, PROPERTY ADDRESS.
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50.
THE REQUEST TO REDUCE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE FRONT-YARD
QUARTERBACK FROM 50 FEET TO EVERYONE FEET AND REDUCE THE
BACK-UP FROM TEN FEET TO ONE FEET FOR A TWO-CAR PARKING
STRUCTURE.
27-290, SCHEDULE AREA HEIGHT, BULK AND PLACEMENT NOR
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
SETBACKS ARE 06 FEET FROM THE FRONT.
THREE FEET FROM THE REAR AND THREE FEET FROM THE SIDES.
THE OTHER SECTION IN REFERENCE IS SECTION 27-156, TABLE 4-2
STRUCTURAL EDGE OF THE TWO-CAR DRIVE TEN FOOT FROM THE
PROPERTY LINE AND PREVIOUS ACTION C.O.D.-23-4161 WHICH WAS
CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT PERMITS.
THESE ARE THE STANDARDS FOR THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD THAT
THEY BASED THEIR DECISION OFF OF.
THIS IS THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT LEGAL PROVIDED YOU A COPY OF.
THIS IS THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DETERMINATION.
THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HEARD THE CASE, DECEMBER 10, 2024.
AFTER TESTIMONY DENIED THE REQUEST 5-0.
DENIED BOTH REQUESTS TO REDUCE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE,
FRONT-YARD QUARTERBACK FROM 06 FEET TO ONE FEET AS WELL AS
THE -- TO REDUCE THE BACK-UP DISTANCE FROM TEN FEET NO ONE
FOOT FOR TWO-CAR PARKING STRUCTURE.
A MAP OF THE SITE.
YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING STRUCTURE LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARD,
AND WE WILL GET INTO MORE DETAILED PHOTO IN A MINUTE.
SITE PLAN TO THE SITE, AND BLUE BOX IS THE HIGHLIGHTED
CONCERN WHICH BLOWN UP ON THE SLIDE.
LARGE ALUMINIUM AWNING.
20 X 15.3 FEET.
AND SITS ONE BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE IN THE FRONT.
THESE SOME HISTORICAL PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
THE PROPERTY IN 2007.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN 2018. THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN 2019
AND HERE IS THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY WHICH ALSO ADDRESSES --
SHOWS THE COMMENT BY TRANSPORTATION OF IT OF THE ASPHALT IN
THE FRONT YARD, JUST SO YOU GUY COULD SEE A VISUAL OF THAT.
THESE THE DEVELOPMENTAL REVIEW.
FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
TRANSPORTATION FOUND IN INCONSISTENT WITH CONDITIONS.
AND TRANSPORTATION FINDS THE SITE PLAN INTENT WITH CHAPTER
27-156-C, TABLE 2-4.8.
VEHICLE ENTRANCE OF A TWO-CAR GARAGE AND STORAGE AREA MUST
BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF TEN FEET.
PROPOSED CARPORT IS ONLY ONE FOOT OPINION AT THE TIME OF
PERMITTING MUST MEET THE TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL STANDARDS.
UNCOMMITTED ASPHALT COVERING MOST OF THE FRONT YARD WILL
NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND REPLACED WITH
GRASS.
AND JONATHAN'S CONTACT INFORMATION PROVIDED BEFORE.
WASTEWATER FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
WATER FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH CONDITIONS.
RIGHT-OF-WAY FOUND IN IT INCONSISTENT DUE TO PLATTED REAR
EASEMENT THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THE OVERALL -- WHAT IS BEING
PROPOSED ON THIS VARIANCE SITE PLAN.
A SHED IN THE REAR YARD OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THIS REVIEW
AND NOTE SO THOMAS COULD MOVE THE SHED OUT OF THAT EASEMENT.
STORMWATER FOUND IN IT CONSISTENT, AND TECO H NO COMMENT AT
THE TIME OF THE REVIEW.
I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS IF YOU
GUYS HAVE ANY.
02:53:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, CALL UP THE APPLICANT AT THIS I'M.
MR. HANKS, IF YOU WILL COME UP.
HOW LONG DOES HE HAVE FOR A PRESENTATION?
15 MINUTES?
YOU HAVE TOUCH 15 MINUTES.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL THAT TIME IF YOU DON'T WANT TO AS
WE WILL DISCUSSED, AND YOU WILL HAVE REBUTTAL TO RESPOND TO
ANYTHING WE SAY.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
02:53:35PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS THOMAS HANKS.
I HAVE RESIDED AT THE PROPERTY.
IT IS MY HOMESTEAD.
MY ONLY HOUSE.
THE CARPORT THAT IS IN QUESTION RIGHT THERE, IT HAS BEEN
THERE IN EXCESS OF 206 -- OF 20 YEARS.
I GOT MARRIED AND I HAD MOVED THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET --
OR WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET AND WE HAD A RV.
WE PUT -- AND CONSEQUENTLY BECAUSE I HAVE A HIGH-TOP VAN.
AND WE MOVED IT ACROSS THE STREET AND THE MOTHER-IN-LAW
LIVED ON MY PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.
EXCUSE ME.
AND THEN WHEN WE GOT A DIVORCE, THEN I JUST -- I DID THE
EGYPTIAN AND PULLED IT RIGHT BACK ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THANK IS WHERE IT SAT.
LIKE I SAID PUT IT THERE IN PROBABLY 2001 AND 2002.
IT HAS BEEN THERE THAT LONG AND ACROSS THE STREET.
THAT IS WHY YOU DIDN'T SEE IT IN THAT PHOTO RIGHT THERE.
AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE MULTIPLE CAR PORTS CLOSER TO THE
ROAD THAN MINOR MY HOUSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE REASON THAT THIS IS EVEN AN ISSUE BEFORE YOU GUYS IS
THERE IS A GUY AT THE END OF THE BLOCK THAT HE O.D.ED.
SOME KIND OF DOPE GUY.
AND HE PUSHED ME DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET WITH A
BACK PACK BLOWER ON.
AND I AM SURVIVING COLON CANCER RIGHT NOW.
AND I HAD A COLOSTOMY BAG AND HE PUSHED ME DOWN AND CRACKED
MY RIBS.
I CALLED THE POLICE UP.
AND WHATEVER THEY DID TO HIM, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THAT -- THAT WAS LIKE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
MONDAY MORNING, I HAD THE STICKER.
AND THE LADY, SUZETTE RODRIGUEZ GAVE ME THE NAME OF THE GUY
WHO FILED AGAINST ME AND IT WAS THAT GUY.
SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW, HE O.D.ED.
AND ALL THE DRUG STUFF HAS STOPPED BECAUSE IT WAS -- IT WAS
-- IT WAS A SHOW OVER THERE.
AND HE IS DEAD NOW, AND I STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS.
AND I HAVE GOT A PICTURE OF MY PROPERTY.
AND.
02:56:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD, THE PROJECTOR
THERE.
RIGHT TO YOUR RIGHT.
02:56:05PM >> OH, OKAY.
AND ALSO I GOT A NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST SECTS OF THE
PEOPLE THAT OWN THE -- SIGNATURES OF THE PEOPLE THAT OWN TH
PROPERTY.
I GAVE THEM THE PIECE OF PAPER AND THE CARPORT DOES NOT
OFFEND ANYONE.
HERE IS THE PICTURE AND THIS RIGHT FENCE THERE I PUT THAT.
I PUT THAT THERE WHEN I PUT THAT CAR PORT THERE 27 SOMETHING
YEARS AGO IT STAYS THERE.
AS TO THE ASPHALT, NOBODY WANTS TO ADMIT TO THE FACT BUT
STORMWATER BECAUSE I COMPLAINED.
I LIVED THERE A LONG TIME.
I COMPLAINED TO STORMWATER ABOUT THIS, THAT ALL THAT DIRT
WAS ERODING DOWN -- THERE IS A DRAIN OUT OF THIS PICTURE
RIGHT HERE AND WHEN THE MAILMAN OR EVERYBODY GOES BY THE
DUST BIN AND THE SEWER IS LOWER THAN THE STREET AND PULLING
THE DIRT OUT.
I TOLD THAT TO STORMWATER.
THEY CAME AND FIX IT.
I WAS ELATED.
AND NOW IT SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM.
AND CONSEQUENTLY THE STORMWATER PEOPLE UP HERE A LITTLE
WHILE AGO WASTING TIME AND EFFORT, THEY USED TO COME ON A
WEEKLY BASE WITH THE BIG VACUUM CLEANERS TO SUCK THE DRAINS
OUT BECAUSE SO FULL WITH DIRT.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN HERE ONE TIME SINCE THAT HAPPENED.
I MEAN IT IS ACTUALLY SAVED THE CITY MONDAY.
STORMWATER DID IT.
NOBODY WANTS TO ACCEPT IT.
THEY SAY THAT GUY DOESN'T WORK HERE ANY LONGER.
SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE ME?
AND I LIVE BY MYSELF WITH MY DOG AND THAT IS THE -- THE
CARPORT IS THERE FOR MY TRUCK AND MY CAR.
I AM A VERY GOOD STEWARD OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
LIKE I SAID, TO BE THERE SUCCESSFULLY FOR 26, 27 YEARS, YOU
KNOW, YOU GOT TO BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
SO -- AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVE SIGNATURES OF ALL THE FOUR
OWNERS, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST OF MY PROPERTY AND THEN
I HAVE GOT UP FROM MISS CASTOR -- THIS RIGHT THERE.
SHE MAILED THIS TO ME.
SHOULD I TURN IT AROUND?
HERE WE GO.
AND BEING ON DISABILITY BECAUSE I AM ON MEDICATION.
AND MY GUTS ARE JUST BAD NEWS, YOU KNOW.
LIKE I SAID, I AM SURVIVING.
YOU KNOW -- UNDERLINE IT SAYS ONE OF THESE HAS TO PERTAIN TO
MY DISABILITIES BEING GRANTED.
AND I BELIEVE -- ENJOYING MY HOUSEHOLD.
I COULD NOT ENJOY IT.
BECAUSE MY HOUSE STAYS TO THE EAST IN BLATANT DEAD SUNSHINE.
AND IT IS -- I JUST HAD CATARACT SURGERY AS WELL.
AND IT IS JUST -- IT IS.
IT IS SO NECESSARY FOR THAT CARPORT.
LIKE I SAID OTHER CAR PORTS, MULTIPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE ROVED THAN MINE, YOU KNOW.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I AM BEING PICKED ON 21 OR 22 YEARS
AFTER THE FACT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
I THINK I HAVE SAID EVERYTHING.
UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SIGNATURES OF THE PEOPLE --
02:59:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
GIVE THEM UP TO THE ATTORNEY HERE AND WE WILL LOOK AT THEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
ANYTHING ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD?
03:00:08PM >> IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT I KEEP IT.
IT JUST -- IT IS MY LIFE.
WHERE I SIT WITH MY DOG EVERY DAY.
ALL DAY MOST DAYS.
UP KNOW, THAT IS WHERE I SIT.
AND, ALSO, THE LEAVES INUNDATING -- BOTH OF MY FEET HAVE
BEEN BROKEN.
I AM NOT AGILE AS I USED TO BE.
AND WHEN THE LEVELS COME DOWN, IT AIN'T NOTHING BUT A
TRIPPING HAZARD, SLIPPING HAZARD.
AND THE RAIN JUST ERODES EVERYTHING.
IT'S -- LOSING PROPERTY EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
ANY TIME THERE IS A WIND STORM, THE WIND JUST BLOWS DOWN THE
STREET AND TAMPA DOESN'T BLOW UP IN MY FACE.
AND IT IS WONDERFUL.
03:00:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS?
IF NOT I WILL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
NOBODY PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
IS THERE -- WELL, THERE IS NO REBUTTAL -- THERE IS REBUTTAL
IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE, BUT NOBODY MENTIONED
ANYTHING.
SO IF NOT -- BE.
03:01:15PM >> MY DOG IS BLACK, SO SHE CAN'T SIT IN THE SUNSHINE.
POOR GIRL.
SHE JUST -- IT IS TOO HOT FOR HER.
AND ME AS WELL.
03:01:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:01:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:01:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON.
A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL SOMEBODY IN DO WE UPHOLD OR
OVERTURN?
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
GO AHEAD.
03:01:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE AFFIRM THE VRB'S DECISION TO DENY
THE REQUEST IN THE APPLICATION NUMBER VRB 4-56 FOR THE
PROPERTY AT 8406 NORTH EDISON AVENUE DUE TO FAILURE OF THE
PETITION ARE FOR BURDEN OF PROOF OF COMPREHENSIVE TENT AND
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING OF
THE UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY WHEN
CONSIDERING THE FIVE HARDSHIP CRITERIA SECTION 27-80 OF THE
CITY CODE, SPECIFICALLY THAT THE HARDSHIPS TO IDENTIFY WOULD
NOT BE RESOLVED JUST BY THE CONTINUED USE OF THAT CARPORT BY
THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU SUGGESTED.
JUST -- HAVING THAT -- THOSE CONDITIONS THAT -- SITTING.
YOU CAN SEPTEMBER IN OTHER AREAS OF THE HOUSE, AND TO AVOID
THE SUN.
I UNDERSTAND BUT, YOU KNOW -- THERE IS -- THE SIGNATURES
THAT YOU BROUGHT -- IF THEY HAD COME AND TESTIFY IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN MORE OF A WEIGHT OF THAT EVIDENCE THAT WOULD HAVE
BEEN HEAVIER, BUT THAT IS NOT THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL AM
EVIDENCE WE ARE WORKING FOR TO REACH THESE HARDSHIP CRITERIA
TO OVERTURN.
AND NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS.
03:03:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:03:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SAY YOU SHOULD STICK TO SECTION 27-80
WHICH TALKS OF THE REASONING.
AND THE HARDSHIP FOR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES NOT RESULT
FROM THE ACTIONS.
IT IS A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP BY PUTTING IT THERE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE PROPERTY AND NOT
HEALTH ISSUES.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF THAT COMES IN FRONT OF
THE VARIANCE BOARD THAT HAS TO DO WITH HEALTH, BUT NOT ABOUT
HEALTH BUT ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY AND WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT
DO ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IT AND THE VARIANCE IS NOT IN HARMONY AND SERVES THE
INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THIS CHAPTER AND THE ADOPTED TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
03:03:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:04:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ALLEGED HARDSHIP IS NOT UNIQUE AND
SINGULAR WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY.
03:04:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
A ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:04:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
03:04:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
03:04:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
03:04:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
03:04:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
03:04:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
03:04:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
03:04:21PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:04:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
THAT'S IT.
HEARING IS OVER.
03:04:30PM >> IT IS NOT APPROVED.
MY MENTAL HEALTH IS NOT PART OF THE HEALTH CRITERIA.
03:04:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE HEARING IS OVER, SIR.
03:04:39PM >> IS IT IN MY FAVOR OR NO?
03:04:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, NOT IN YOUR FAVOR, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:04:45PM >> HOW ABOUT THE REMEDY.
WHAT IS THE REMEDY?
03:04:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF SOMEONE ON THE LEGAL SIDE GO AHEAD,
SIR.
03:04:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NOT TO GIVE -- STOP ME IF NEED BE.
I WOULD -- WITH WHOM DID YOU SPEAK FOR SETTING THIS UP?
WHO DID YOU SPEAK TO SET THIS HEARING UP, SIR?
03:05:14PM >> IT WAS -- IT WAS A WOMAN DOWN -- CORENZIA AND ERIC COTTON
AND -- AND LISA MIDDLETON.
I HAVE BEEN -- AND MR. EYSTER.
I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SEEMED TO BE ON MY SIDE BUT SEEMS LIKE
SOMEBODY ISN'T.
03:05:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. SHELBY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG,
I WOULD FOLLOW UP YOU WITH THEM WHAT THE RESPECTED STEPS
WOULD BE.
THE HEARING UNFORTUNATELY IS OVER.
BUT I WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH THEM FOR THAT.
03:05:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:05:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE ARE SORRY.
I MEAN THAT.
03:05:57PM >> SORRY IS ME.
03:05:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
NEXT ITEM OR THE LAST ITEM, MY ITEM REGARDING DECORUM AND
EFFICIENCY.
I TOOK A FEW NOTES HERE.
03:06:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOTES?
03:06:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTES.
I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHTS.
ALL RIGHT.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 105 AND 106?
03:06:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO MOVED.
03:06:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
WE ALREADY SISTER?
OKAY, NEVER MIND.
TAKE THAT BACK.
03:06:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, DO WE HAVE NEW
BUSINESS, SIR?
03:06:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
REAL QUICK.
LET'S SEE HERE.
I HAD ORIGINALLY INVITED A KAREN DAY IT CLAY TO COME ON MAY
15 TO SPEAK ON HER NEW 501-C-3.
BUT EVERY YEAR WE HAVE GOLD STAR PARENTS FOR MEMORIAL DAY
AND I WANTED TO MOVE -- AND I ALREADY ACQUIRED MISS CLAY'S
PRESENTATION FOR JUNE 26 WHERE WE HAVE A CLERICAL LANDER IF
I MAY.
03:07:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
03:07:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
03:07:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
INVITE GOLD STAR FAMILIES MAY 15 TO SPEAK ON THE MEMORIAL
DAY HOLIDAY WHICH IS 12 DAYS AFTER THAT.
03:07:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
03:07:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NEXT MOTION FOR A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT ON
MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD.
YOU HAVE BEEN DOWN MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD A COUNTY ROAD, BUT A
LOT OF MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD OF THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND PASCO COUNTY.
MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD IS TREATED AS A RURAL ROAD AROUND
ANYTHING BUT.
NEIGHBORHOODS OUT THERE.
AND COREY LAKE AISLES.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT HOUSES OF WORSHIP.
SIKH HOUSE OF WORSHIP AND ISLAMIC TEMPLE AND A COUPLE OF
CHURCHES AND SO FORTH.
I WANTED FOR MOBILITY TO WORK WITH THE APPROPRIATE
GOVERNMENT ENTITIES ON WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THAT GOVERNMENTS
CAN MAKE ON MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD WORKING TOGETHER AND TO
REPORT ON THAT IN THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
JUST A WRITTEN REPORT AND BASED ON THAT, WE CAN SEE IF ANY
ACTION CAN BE TAKEN.
03:08:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "IMPROVEMENT?"
03:08:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IMPROVEMENTS WITH SPEED LIMIT --
03:08:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WERE NOT SPECIFIC.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT.
03:08:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU.
03:08:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:08:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
03:08:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:08:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT, THANK YOU CORE COUNCIL.
03:08:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DON'T HAVE ANY NEWS BUSINESSES.
OFFER CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF FRANCES ENRIQUEZ.
MANY OF YOU KNOW HER MANY DON'T KNOW.
FIRST WOMAN CLERK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WORKED AND SPENT
39 YEARS IN THE CITY.
PASSED AWAY ON MARCH 19 OF THIS YEAR.
TRULY A TRAILBLAZER.
AND I JUST WANT TO OFFER MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AND
RECOGNIZE HER FOR EVERYTHING THAT SHE DID HERE IN OUR CITY.
BEGAN HER EMPLOYMENT IN 1954.
IMAGINE DIFFERENT TIMES AND 1963 APPOINTED DEPUTY CITY CLERK
FROM MAYOR JULIAN LANE.
03:09:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FIRST FEMALE.
03:09:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:09:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A FEW.
LET'S SEE.
LET'S KNOCK THE EASY ONE OUT FIRST.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION FOR
THE 2025 TAMPA PRIDE CELEBRATION ON SATURDAY, MARCH 29,
2025.
THIS WEEKEND.
COMMENDATION WILL BE PRESENTED OFF-SITE AT THE CUBAN CLUB
OFFSITE.
03:09:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:09:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL COME TO YOU.
03:10:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VOTED I WAS THE PRETTIEST --
03:10:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT'S YOUR -- [ LAUGHTER ]
03:10:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO.
I HAVE BEEN KNEE-DEEP IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GARAGES.
MY NEW FAVORITE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION OUTSIDE THE STREETCAR.
SO SPEAKING WITH STAFF, WE NEED TO CLARIFY.
SO I SPOKEN WITH STAFF AND REVISE AND CLARIFY THE MOTION
FROM FEBRUARY 20, 2025 TO INCLUDE CHANGES IN THE LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE RELATING TO
RESIDENTIAL OFF-STREET PARKING AND TANDEM PARKING.
REVISE THE MOTION THAT WE ASK STAFF TO AMEND THE CODE IN THE
JULY 2024 CYCLE RELATED TO SINGLE-FAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL
TOWN HOME CARPORT STANDARDS INCLUDED AN INCREASE IN THE
SETBACK FOR GARAGES TO 18 FEET, WHERE THE PARKING IS
PROPOSED TO BE IN THE STRUCTURE.
SO THE EXPLANATION OF THAT BULLET POINT IS IF THEY ARE USING
THE GARAGE FOR -- AND A CARPORT TO BE PARKING MINIMUMS, YOU
HAVE TO 18 FOOT TO PARK YOUR CAR IN THE CARPORT AND WHY WE
HAVE TO DO THAT FOR THE SETBACKS AND MEET THE MINIMUM IF
THEY ARE USING THE PARKWAY FOR THAT PURPOSE.
NUMBER TWO, INCLUDE NEW LANGUAGE SPECIFYING THE WIDTH AND
DEPTH OF ONE OR TWO-CAR GARAGES.
I MENTIONED 20 FEET WIDE AND 24 DEEP.
THAT INFORMATION HAD BEEN GIVEN TO ME IN OUR BRIEFINGS WITH
STEVEN BENSON IN THE CITY.
AND SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS, I THINK, WE ARE STILL GOING TO
WORK THROUGH THIS, THE DEPTH PART OF IT.
IF THERE WAS A RIGHT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT GARBAGE HAS
TO BE HIDDEN OR SHIELDED.
ONE OF THOSE METHODS IS THEY BUILD THESE GARAGES AND -- AND
USING THE GARAGE TO SHIELD IT.
WHEN THAT IS THE CASE A LOGICAL DEPTH FOR THE GARAGES.
IF THEY ARE SHIELDING IT IN ANOTHER FASHION, 22 FEET WOULD
BE A REASONABLE DEPTH.
SO I AM STILL WORKING WITH STAFF TO RESOLVE THAT IN THE
FINAL LANGUAGE TO IT BE INCLUDED.
WE ARE GOING TO SPECIFY THAT THE TANDEM PARKING INSIDE A
GARAGE IS PROHIBITED AND CLARIFY NO WAIVER FOR SINGLE-FAMILY
PARKING STANDARDS.
THAT IS FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY.
SO JUST TWO.
03:12:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU HAVE A DATE?
03:12:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS WAS TO CLARIFY THE MOTION FROM
FEBRUARY 20, 2025.
THIS IS JUST TO GIVE STAFF SOME CONFIRMATION THAT WE ARE
MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ORDINANCE MANISCALCO MOTION
AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE?
03:12:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THOUGHT I HAD SOMETHING ELSE.
03:12:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
DO YOU HAVE NEW BUSINESS?
03:12:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, I DO.
I WAS A LITTLE BIT TRIGGERED TODAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN CHIEF
TRIPP WAS STANDING BEFORE US.
I HAVE A MOTION.
I NEED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED WITH FIRE.
THAT IS WHAT MY SPIRIT IS TELLING ME.
I WANT UPDATES ON A REGULAR BASIS MONTHLY ABOUT STATION 24.
AND I WANT HER TO COME BEFORE US AND DO THAT, IN PERSON.
AND ALSO ON A MONTHLY BASIS IN WRITING, I WANT A WRITTEN
MONTHLY DATA REPORT ON BUNKER GEAR.
03:13:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:13:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU NEED CLARIFICATION?
03:13:10PM >> NO, I HAVE A QUESTION.
IF I MAY.
03:13:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOR DISCUSSION.
03:13:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:13:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE ALREADY GET MONTHLY WRITTEN REPORTS.
03:13:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ON BUNKER GEAR?
03:13:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON STATION 24.
AND WE GET IN PERSON QUARTERLY REPORTS ON STATION 24, SO I
DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S --
03:13:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT SEEMS THAT WE DO, BUT THE PUBLIC NEEDS
TO HEAR IT FOR THEMSELVES.
THEY DON'T GO DIGGING LOOKING FOR INFORMATION THE WAY WE DO
ON STATION 24 JUST HER COMING BEFORE US ALLOWS US TO ASK
QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT IS IN THE REPORT EVEN THOUGH THEY
COME OUT IN WRITING ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING.
TODAY WHAT IS PRESENTED TODAY BASED ON THE OTHER INFORMATION
WRITTEN BY OTHERS THAT, YOU KNOW, SEEM TO BE SUPPORTED AND
UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPERTS AND WHATEVER THEY MAY
BE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US THE DATA SO
WE WON'T BE DISTRACTED WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUNKER GEAR IN
PARTICULAR.
I CAN SEPARATE THAT -- IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM
BARBARA TRIPP, CHIEF TRIPP ON A MONTHLY BASIS IN PERSON
ABOUT STATION 24.
BECAUSE STATION 24 HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SO LONG, YOU KNOW.
03:14:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
YES?
03:14:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A SUGGESTION.
WOULD COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA BE UP TO MOVING THE WRITTEN
REPORT TO IN-PERSON REPORTS?
03:14:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SURE, LOOK WAIT A SECOND.
03:14:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT A SECOND.
WHEN IT COMES TO 24, MAKING THEM IN PERSON.
I THINK THAT WILL BE A WASTE OF OUR STAFF'S TIME.
I THINK DOING IT IN WRITING AND THEN QUARTERLY IN PERSON, WE
GET THE SAME BENEFIT FROM THAT.
I WILL HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT ARE THEN AGAIN --
03:15:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS FAIR.
03:15:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SEEMS LIKE STATION 24 HAS BEEN A PART OF
MY LIFE THE WHOLE TIME I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND EVEN
BEFORE THEN.
AND I DON'T KNOW -- I THINK FOR ME -- SORRY, WAS I
RECOGNIZED BECAUSE I KNOW CAN TALKING OF DECORUM NEXT.
I AM LEARNING IN THE PROCESS OF ADJUSTING THE TIME TABLE OF
THINGS.
IT IS JUST HOW DO WE.
AND EXPEDITE IS A VERY SOFT WORD BUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO
MOVE THINGS ALONG.
HEARING IT FACE TO FACE, WE GET TO TALK ABOUT IT TOGETHER UP
HERE.
AND THAT IS THE PART THAT YOU CAN'T GET FROM THE WRITTEN
REPORT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING.
I GET TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND OUR OPEN TIME TO TALK ABOUT
IT.
AND THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME IS THAT YOU CAN'T BREAK
SUNSHINE, SO I GET TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS UP HERE, AND
WE CAN DECIDE TOGETHER THROUGH A MOTION, YOU KNOW, HOW TO
PUSH STATION 24 ALONG BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN AN TOPIC EVERY
SINCE I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THIS AMAZING COUNCIL THAT
CHARLIE STILL WANTS TO BE A PART OF, I HOPE.
AND THAT IS -- THAT IS MY LOGIC BEHIND IT.
AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY I MADE THE MOTION I WAS JUST
TRIGGERED TODAY.
I DIDN'T COME AND PLAN WITH THAT.
I KNOW THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THE BUNKER DATA MONTHLY
REPORT FOR SURE.
03:16:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
03:16:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I CAN SEPARATE THAT OUT.
03:16:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
QUARTERLY IN PERSON.
AND THEN MONTHLY WRITTEN.
03:16:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SAME THING.
03:16:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY.
I CAN KEEP IT TOGETHER AND THE DATA -- MONTHLY REPORT --
03:16:58PM >>THE CLERK:
I NEED CLARIFICATION.
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH MONTHLY AND
QUARTERLY REPORT FOR STATION 4.
ASKING FOR THAT CONSTITUTION THAT 24 TO BE IN PERSON
MONTHLY.
03:17:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO QUARTERLY.
03:17:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STAYS THE SAME.
THAT IS FINE.
AS LONG AS --
03:17:20PM >>THE CLERK:
MAKE A MOTION JUST FOR THE BUNKER GEAR.
03:17:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CORRECT, CORRECT.
03:17:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RESTATE YOUR MOTION?
03:17:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SURE, I MOVE THAT WE HAVE A WRITTEN
MONTHLY REPORT ON SPECIFIC DATA REGARDING BUNKER GEAR FOR
ALL STATIONS.
03:17:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND WITH A QUESTION.
03:17:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SECOND.
YES, MA'AM?
03:17:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE THAT TO BEGIN.
03:17:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EFFECTIVE APRIL -- I WANT APRIL.
03:17:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE IS APRIL 17.
03:17:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
END OF APRIL.
YOU KNOW I DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MOTIONS, SO WHAT NOW?
03:17:54PM >>THE CLERK:
YOU JUST MADE A MOTION TODAY ON UPDATE OF BUNKER
YEAR ON MAY 1.
03:18:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
START WITH MAY 1 AND THEN A MONTHLY BASIS
SHELBY HILLARY CLINTON IS I'M JUST SAYING.
YES, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
ARE YOU IN EFFECT AMENDING COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S MOTION TO
EXPAND IT TO BE MONTHLY?
03:18:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WRITTEN.
03:18:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WRITTEN MONTHLY.
03:18:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SO WE WON'T LET IT GO.
IS THAT OKAY.
03:18:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN -- YES, ABSOLUTELY.
MY BIG THING ON THAT WAS TO KEEP A WATCHFUL EYE ON THAT AND
LEVEL THE SCRUTINY REQUIRED ON THAT AND IF YOU WANT TO MAKE
IT MONTHLY.
03:18:39PM >> I DON'T WANT IT LOST IN TRANSITION AND WE ARE READING ALL
THESE NEGATIVE E-MAILS.
03:18:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:18:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HIT ON THIS EARLIER TODAY AND STILL
SOMETHING GNAWING ON ME.
I AM NOT DIMINISHING THE NEED.
I WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, KIND OF COUNTER TO MY GUT AND MAYBE WE
WILL TALK ABOUT THIS NEXT TOO.
I AM REALLY EMPATHETIC WITH CITY STAFF AND HOW MUCH WORK WE
ARE GENERATING AS FAR AS WITH CHIEF TRIPP, IS SHE
DISTRIBUTING BUNKER GEAR?
HOW MUCH TIME SPENDING DOING ALL THESE THINGS WE ARE ASKING
THEM TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT SOMETHING TELLING ME THAT WE ARE ASKING AN
AWFUL LOT OF OUR CITY STAFF TO GENERATE A LOT OF QUOTES.
A LOT OF IN PERSONS.
I KNOW THEY ARE ALL GLUED TO THE TV EVERY THURSDAY.
I KNOW I HAVE BEEN HERE ON WEEKENDS AND CITY STAFF HERE ON
WEEKENDS WORKING ON REPORTS THAT WE ASKED THEM TO GENERATE
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN THE WEEK TO DO IT.
AND MAYBE THE SOLUTION.
I THINK WE PROBABLY KEEP DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.
BUT THING WE HAVE TO ASK THE CHAIR OR CREATE A WORK GROUP OF
PEOPLE OF -- I KNOW THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAVE TO TRACK ALL
THIS STUFF.
03:20:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL ITEM 101 WITH EFFICIENCY.
03:20:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITHOUT USING AI, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO
IT.
WE HAVE GOT TO SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT A WAY OF CONSOLIDATING THE
STUFF AND LOOKING AT IT, BECAUSE I THINK IF WE LOOKED AT ALL
THIS ON FRONT OF US ON ONE BIG SHEET, WE WOULD BE AGHAST OF
HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY OUT THERE.
03:20:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S TALK AT THIS ON 101.
03:20:32PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
HAGAR KOPESKY.
UNIQUE NATURE OF FIRE STATION 24 IS ONE OF THE -- EXCUSE ME
-- PROJECTS THAT THEY RECENTLY SELECTED A THIRD PARTY TO
ACTUALLY MANAGE THE PROJECT FOR THEM.
AND GENERALLY THAT PROCESS OF MANAGEMENT OF THAT PROJECT
WILL COME WITH THE COST OF THAT TO HELP WITH OTHER PROJECTS.
03:20:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEAUTIFUL.
I LOVE HEARING THAT.
03:20:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE YOUR MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:20:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST TO RESPOND TO CLENDENIN IS TO REDUCE
THE GASLIGHTING AND HAVE GOOD INFORMATION I THINK WILL SERVE
THE CHIEF WELL.
AND REDUCE A LOT OF THE DISTRACTERS THAT ARE OUT THERE
REGARDING, YOU KNOW -- WHAT IS BEING SAID.
THAT IS MY LOGIC BEHIND IT.
03:21:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND APPEAR SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CARLSON AND THEN MIRANDA FOR NEW
BUSINESS.
YES, MA'AM.
03:21:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM ASKING COUNCIL APPROVAL TO PRESENT AN
OFF-SITE COMMENDATION TO HOMEGROWN HILLSBOROUGH FOR
PROMOTING FOOD WASTE PREVENTION WEEK APRIL 7-13.
I WILL PRESENT THE COMMENDATION ON APRIL 12 AT A COMMUNITY
EVENT AT MEACHAM URBAN FARM.
03:21:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
03:21:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
CLENDENIN WAS THE SECOND.
YES, MA'AM.
03:21:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING STAFF REPORT
TO APRIL 17, 2025, AND TO CHANGE IT FROM AN IN-PERSON TO A
WRITTEN REPORT.
THE MOTION WAS STAFF TO WORK HAGAR KOPESKY CITY COUNCIL
BUDGET ANALYST TO CREATE AND PROVIDE AN UPDATED LIST OF THE
NEW FOR MAT TO SHOW PURCHASES LESS THAN $2 YOU00,000 AND THE
WAY TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC MONTHLY.
AT THE ASK OF MISS KOPESKY.
03:22:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
03:22:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CITYWIDE.
03:22:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, AN ORIGINAL MOTION.
IT WAS COMING BACK APRIL 17.
AND NO LONGER IN PERSON BUT SIMPLY WRITTEN.
03:22:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
YES, MA'AM.
03:22:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THEN ON MARCH 6, 2025, CFO DENNIS ROGERO
PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE UNAUDITED FY '24
GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL OPINION MR. ROGERO SAID OF FUND
BALANCE AT 23% LEVEL, REMAINING WAS $25.8 MILLION.
HE SHARED A SHORT LIST OF PRIORITIES AND RISKS FOR COUNCIL
TO CONSIDER.
YOU CAN BUT NO DECISIONS WERE MADE.
IN AN EFFORT TO FINALIZE HOW THIS BALANCE WILL BE ALLOCATED,
A MOTION FOR COUNCIL TO VERY VIEW THAT LIST OF PRIORITIES
AND RISKS AND BE PREPARED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO
-- ON HOW THE 25.8 MILLION SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED AT EITHER
THE APRIL 24 WORKSHOP SESSION OR THE MAY 1st REGULAR
MEETING.
DP NOT KNOW IF WE NEEDED BIG CONVERSATION ABOUT IT IF WOULD
YOU RATHER HAVE THIS AS A WORKSHOP ITEM ASK COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON IF HE MAY MOVE ONE EYE TERM FOR ME.
IF NOT, WE CAN DO IT AT THE MAY 1 REGULAR MEETING.
WHAT IS Y'ALL'S PLEASURE.
03:23:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MORE A WORKSHOP.
03:23:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY TO MOVE THE INDIAN ROCKS BEACH RENTAL.
03:24:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
INCLUDE THAT --
03:24:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL MAKE THE MOTION AND HE CAN MAKE A
SEPARATE MOTION TO MOVE THAT.
WE ARE WORKING ON THE INDIAN ROCKS BEACH THING.
MY MOTION TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE APRIL 24 WORKSHOP FOR THE
PROPOSED DISTRIBUTION OF THE REMAINING BALANCE FOR REVENUE
WHAT STILL NEEDS TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE FY '26 BUDGET
PROCESS AND SO IMPORTANT WE DO IT BEFORE -- OR AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE.
03:24:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A MOTION
REGARDING HIS WORKSHOP ITEM.
ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
03:24:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S IT.
03:24:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN CLOSE
OUT WITH MIRANDA.
03:24:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT DATE?
03:24:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
APRIL 17 -- 27.
03:24:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE THE INDIAN ROCKS BEACH FROM APRIL --
WHATEVER IT WAS.
03:24:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
4th.
03:24:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO THE SEPTEMBER WORKSHOP.
03:25:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SEPTEMBER 25.
03:25:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER -- COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON.
DOES THAT HAVE TO BE A WORKSHOP ITEM.
03:25:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WAS IT ON THE WORKSHOP BEFORE.
03:25:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I CAN'T IMAGINE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION IF IT
IS WORTHY OF A WORKSHOP.
03:25:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PUT IT ON THE JUNE 5 REGULAR SEASON.
03:25:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAVE TIME ON THE MAY 1.
03:25:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE TO THE JUNE 5 REGULAR SESSION.
03:25:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND -- DO WE
HAVE A SECOND.
03:25:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
03:25:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:25:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
03:25:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER --
03:25:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
A CLARIFICATION QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T
MIND.
WHEN YOU SAID TO CARLSON I KNOW YOU ARE STILL WORKING ON THE
INDIAN ROCKS BEACH THING OPINION HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT IN
TERMS OF -- -- HOW WE COMMUNICATE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I AM
SAYING?
IF I WANT YOU TO ACTUALLY KNOW IN ADVANCE WITHOUT BREAKING
SUNSHINE --
03:26:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A GREAT QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW THAT HE IS WORKING ON IT, BUT I HAVE READ
STORIES THAT INDIAN ROCK BEACHES HAS BEEN WORKING ON LEGAL
ISSUES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING AIR B&Bs SO I ASSUMED --
MAYBE THAT IS WRONG OF ME -- BUT TO SAY THAT I KNOW THERE
ARE LEGAL STUFF GOING ON ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND CURRENTLY THE LEGISLATURE IS LEGISLATURING.
WHO KNOW WHAT IS WILL HAPPEN NEXT.
03:26:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I AM JUST CURIOUS.
03:26:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A VERY VALID QUESTION --
03:26:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEWS STORIES YESTERDAY AND THE DAY
BEFORE.
03:26:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I GET THAT POINT, BUT THAT WITH AS NOT
HOW IT WAS PRESENTED.
03:26:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:26:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
REGARDING THE BUDGET, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IT WILL BE REAL QUICK.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO
PRESENT THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET 2025 MIDYEAR REVIEW DURING
THE MAY 15, 2025 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL.
03:26:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:27:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND OF ALL OF, MAKE A MOTION FOR MAYOR
JANE CASTOR FOR THE 2025-'26 FISCAL BUDGET AT THE JULY 25,
2025 TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
03:27:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:27:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIRDLY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE A
SPECIALLY CALLED WORKSHOP FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 ON MONDAY, AUGUST
42025 AT 9 A.M.
03:27:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:27:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NUMBER FOUR, MAKE A MOTION FOR A
ADMINISTRATION TO AM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 OPERATING
BUDGET ON MONDAY AUGUST 18, 2025 AT 9 A.M.
03:27:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:27:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
03:27:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
03:27:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SET A
FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET FOR
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, AT 5:01 P.M.
03:28:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WEDNESDAY?
03:28:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THOUGHT WE DO IT TUESDAYS.
03:28:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SEPTEMBER 3, 2025, 5:01.
03:28:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OBVIOUSLY THE SHARE OF THE FINANCE
COMMITTEE HAS GOT THE DATE.
03:28:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
03:28:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE SCHEME OF THINGS OF THE HIERARCHY WHO
GETS TO SET REAL DATES.
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT NUMBER.
YOU ONE.
THEY HAVE TOE YIELD WHERE THE WHERE THE SCHOOL BOARD SITS
AND.
THAT IS THE AVAILABLE DATE.
03:28:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE GIVEN ME.
03:28:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION THAT IS THAT HAS BEEN
CLEARED.
03:28:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SEPTEMBER 3 AT 5:01.
03:28:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AGAIN, A WEDNESDAY.
03:28:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND A REGULAR SESSION NEXT MORNING.
03:28:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NUMBER 6, MAKE A MOTION FOR THE SECOND
PUBLIC HEARING FOR BUDGET FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, 2025 AT
5:01.
03:29:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
YOU HAVE YOUR MIC ON AND THEN VIERA.
03:29:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS WONDER GOING WE SHOULD -- SINCE THE
MAYOR'S BUDGET PRESENTATION TENDS TO BE LONG WHICH ISN'T A
BAD THING, THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF STAFF
REPORTS THAT DAY.
03:29:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
03:29:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE.
SO MAYBE JUST -- MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A SUGGESTION?
03:29:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOUR IS A GOOD NUMBER.
03:29:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LEAVE IT AT FOUR.
TWO NOW.
OUT OF RESPECT FOR MY BIRTHDAY WEEK AS WELL.
[LAUGHTER]
03:29:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN I MOVE THAT WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF STAFF
REPORTS ON JULY 17, IN-PERSON STAFF REPORT TO FOUR.
03:29:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:29:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, ONE OF THE DATES.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND I HAD HAVE A HART BOARD MEETING
AT THIS TIME.
SO -- SO, YEAH, IF I MAY, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE,
PERHAPS -- AND I AM FINE WITH KEEPING IT ON THERE NOW, BUT
PERHAPS LOOK FOR AN ALTERNATIVE DATE.
AUGUST 3, THE FIRST MONDAY.
AUGUST 4, YES, SIR.
WE DON'T REASON IS TO GO THROUGH CALENDAR -- BECAUSE I CHAIR
THE HART MEETINGS, AND I DO LIKE TO BE AT THEM OBVIOUSLY SO
WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
03:30:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THINK OF THAT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK.
03:30:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
03:30:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES?
03:30:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE BEEN THINKING.
AND -- I DON'T KNOW AND I HAD A DISCUSSING WITH HAGAR ON
THIS, THE BUDGET ANALYST.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE CAN OPERATE WITHOUT -- I DON'T KNOW HOW
SHE GETS INFORMATION AND WHERE TO GO.
I FEEL SORRY FOR HER.
I REALLY DO.
03:30:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM SORRY.
03:30:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I COULDN'T DO THE JOB THAT WAY.
SO I HAVE TO SEE IN BUSINESS-WISE HOW YOU HANDLE IT WITH
SEVEN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE YOUR BOSS AND YOU HAVE TO
COMMUNICATE WITH ALL SEVEN OF THEM.
I LIKE TO SET UP A SYSTEM WHERE IF WE ARE GOING TO DO
SOMETHING ANY ONE OF OUR SEVEN, WE GO TO THE CHAIR AND SEND
A MEMO AND WE CAN VOTE ON THAT.
03:31:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE THIS IN THE NEXT ITEM I WANTED TO
DISCUSS.
03:31:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HANDLE IT THEN.
03:31:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM BRINGING THIS UP.
ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS?
I WILL GO TO 101.
AND THAT IS THE LAST ITEM OF THE DAY.
THIS IS ABOUT COUNCIL DECORUM AND EFFICIENCY AND I AM
THINKING HOW I WANT TO START OFF THIS DISCUSSION.
THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
I THINK WE ARE A VERY GOOD CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK WE ARE PROBABLY THE HARDEST-WORKING CITY COUNCIL
BODY THAT I HAVE WORKED WITH.
AND HISTORICALLY -- WELL, A LOT OF GREAT CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
BUT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS CHANGED.
WE HAVE GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY.
THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
IF NOT THROUGH THE GREAT RECESSION ANYMORE, AT LEAST NOT YET
FOR PART TWO.
THERE ARE COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT WERE VERY, VERY SHORT.
EACH COUNCIL MEETING IS QUITE THE ADVENTURE.
WE ARE VERY BUSY.
I SEE HOW EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WORKS GOES OUT IN THE FIELD.
THE BOARDS THEY ARE ON.
EVERYTHING THEY DO.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WORKS NONSTOP.
COUNCILMAN VIERA IS EVERYWHERE.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON DOES SO MANY THINGS AND QUICK ON AND
ON.
WE ARE VERY BUSY.
STAFF IS VERY BUSY.
A LOT GOING ON IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THERE IS A LOT OF GROWTH.
YOU SEE HOW THESE AGENDAS ARE, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND MAYBE
SOCIAL MEDIA, MAYBE JUST THE SIGN OF THE TIMES.
AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT COUNCIL DECORUM, COUNCIL
EFFICIENCY.
I SPOKEN WITH THE MAYOR.
I MADE THE MOTION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.
TAKEN TO THE MAYOR AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND MY WIFE TO GET
-- I DID SPEAK WITH MY MOM.
I DID SPEAK WITH MY MOM.
BUT -- SO AS CHAIRMAN, YOU KNOW, I TOOK A COUPLE OF NOTES
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
I WANT TO HAVE A CIVIL AND PRODUCTIVE AGENDA.
AND, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE ALL VERY BUSY AND A LOT ON OUR
PLATES.
I MADE THIS MOTION TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
LIKE I SAID, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE MAYOR AND OTHER PEOPLE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER, OF
STAFF AND THE PUBLIC.
AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE UNDER A LOT OF STRESS.
SOME ARE THEY.
I KNOW THAT CONVERSATION CONSCIOUS GET HEATED.
WE AGREE WITH THINGS.
WE DISAGREE WHERE THINGS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED
TO BE RESPECTFUL.
THIS WEEK MARKS TEN YEARS, APRIL 1, SINCE I WAS SWORN IN.
FIRST PEEPS OF ADVICE I GOT MARCH 27 OR MARCH 28 IN 2015,
ONLY PIECE OF ADVICE I GOT THAT DAY I WENT INTO ORIENTATION
TO MEET EVERYBODY BEFORE I WAS SWORN IN.
IT WAS DON'T YELL AT STAFF.
STAFF WORKS VERY HARD.
IF YOU NOTICE -- THIS IS JUST ME.
I DON'T -- I DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MOTIONS.
I DON'T ASK FOR STAFF REPORTS VERY OVEN.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I DID.
MAYBE I AM WRONG.
I LIKE PICK UP THE PHONE AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
IF I HAD AN ISSUE WITH MAYOR BUCKHORN, WE DISAGREED ON A LOT
OF STUFF STARTING WITH THE DECEMBER 2015 WITH THE CIVILIAN
REVIEW BOARD.
I WOULD PICK UP THE PHONE AND TALK TO HIM.
I WOULD MAKE COMMENTS PUBLICLY, BUT IF I HAD AN ISSUE WITH
HIM, I WOULD PICK UP THE PHONE AND HE WOULD USUALLY MEET
WITH ME.
I TRIED TO DO THAT WITH THIS MAYOR.
I TRY DO THAT WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS.
BECAUSE I WANT TO BE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIVES TOO.
THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
SING MOVING FORWARD.
I HAVE BEEN HITTING THE GAVEL HARDER THAN USUAL.
PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED ON THAT.
IF CONVERSATIONS GET OUT OF LINE AND I AM CALLING ORDER AND
IT JUST KEEPS GOING.
I AM GOING TO CALL FOR A RECESS AND WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME.
IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC CONCERN THAT WE CAN AVOID, YOU KNOW
STAFF IS BUSY.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT REGARDING STAFF REPORTS AND THEY HAVE A
LOT ON THEIR PLATE AND MONTHLY REPORTS.
I LIKE TO PICK UP THE PHONE.
I HAD A QUESTION WITH CHIEF BENNETT.
HE PICKS UP THE PHONE.
I HAD AN ANSWER.
I DIDN'T NEED A STAFF REPORT.
CHIEF OF POLICE BERCAW -- THIS WAS FRIDAY AFTERNOON AT THE
END OF THE DATE.
I GOT AN ANSWER.
ROGERO, I GOT AN ANSWER.
I CAN GO ON AND ON.
I DON'T WANT TO WASTE OUR TIME OR THEIR TIME BECAUSE A LOT
GOING ON OR THE MAYOR.
CHIEF OF STAFF AND EVERYBODY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL VOICES ARE HEARD.
WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
WE -- WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC HAS OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK.
STAFF HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND AS WELL.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS RESPECTFUL.
I ASK THAT PEOPLE DON'T INTERRUPT.
WE GET PASSIONATE UP HERE AND THE DISCUSSIONS AND THIS IS
THE ONLY TIME WE CAN TALK.
WE SHOULD WEIGHT UNTIL WE ARE RECOGNIZED.
I WAS WANT TO KEEP TO BE CIVIL.
WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT OR APPEAR THAT WE ARE FIGHTING.
AGAIN, AS FAR AS EFFICIENCY, THAT IS THE EASY PART, I THINK.
AS FAR AS EFFICIENCY.
70 A SPECIAL DISCUSSION MAY 8 AFTER CRA.
MEET IN THE SISTER ROOM.
PUBLICLY NOTED.
WE WILL HAVE OUR ATTORNEY PRESENT.
WE HAVE DONE THIS IN THE PAST.
I HAVE DONE THAT UNDER THE SUAREZ, COHEN COUNCIL.
A GOOD MEETING AND AIRED OUT OUR GRIEVANCES COULD YOU SAY
AND A CIVIL CONVERSATION AND A DIFFERENT TIME, EVEN
POLITICALLY.
IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK WE NEED TO BE PATIENT WITH STAFF.
SOME BOGGED DOWN WITH WORK.
I HEARD THEY SPEND TWO DAY AS WEEK RESPONDING TO CITY
COUNCIL.
A CHART OF ALL OF OUR MOTIONS OPINION I KNOW WE GET A LOT OF
PRESSURE.
WE ARE THE FRONT LINE.
STOPPED AT THE GROW GROCERY STORE AND IN THE HALLWAY.
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MAYOR DOESN'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT EVERY THURSDAY -- WHEN WE
HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IT IS TOUGH AND HAS TO WEAR
PSYCHOLOGICALLY BECAUSE A LOT GOING ON.
THE HURRICANES, TERRIBLE TIME AND A LOT OF PRESSURE AND CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE RESPONSIVE TO ITS CONSTITUENCY.
I TAKE STAFF BRIEFING.
I GET AN AGENDA REVIEW -- AS CHAIR YOU WILL GET AN AGENDA
REVIEW.
I GET A STAFF BRIEFING USUALLY THE DAY BEFORE.
AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE ONLINE.
I ASK ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
I MAKE MY NOTES AND THAT'S IT.
I DON'T WANT TO WASTE OUR TIME.
I DON'T WANT TO WAS THEIR TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL MEMBERS GET BRIEFING OR NOT.
IF DO, GREAT.
BUT I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IT.
SO WE ARE NOT LOST IN MISCOMMUNICATION AND TRANSLATION.
RECORDING MISS KOPESKY.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA SAID IT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT BECAUSE DO YOU A FANTASTIC JOB.
A COUNCIL MEMBER ASKS SOMETHING OF MISS KOPESKY AND MAKE IT
INTO A MOTION.
IF SHE IS ASKED TO GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF TO GET
INFORMATION SO WHEN SHE COMES UP TO PRESENT, WE HAVE THE
INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, AHEAD OF TIME AND WE ARE READY.
WHATEVER ANSWERS YOU HAVE MISS KOPESKY, SUBMIT IT IN THE
MEMO.
IN THE NAME OF BEING OUT IN THE SUNSHINE SO WE DON'T FEEL
SURPRISED -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD "AMBUSH" BUT JUST
SO WE KNOW.
ANY OTHER POINTS --
03:38:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EXECUTION ME BECAUSE IT IS MOO MY BRAIN.
03:38:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
03:38:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SHE GETS TO DO THINGS THAT I MAY NOT KNOW
ABOUT?
03:38:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DON'T KNOW.
I AM NOT MAKE CAN ANY ASSUMPTIONS.
I WANT INFORMATION.
INFORMATION FROM MISS KOPESKY, FOR EXAMPLE.
I MAKE THAT UNDER COUNCIL MEMBER AND NEW BUSINESS.
OUT OF RESPECT FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
03:38:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CAN IT BE A MEMO TO ALL OF US.
03:38:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF I WANT HER TO TELL ME BE THE
DEPARTMENT.
IF SHE CAN SEND THE RESPONSE AND I WILL MAKE THE MOTION
FORMALLY.
AND YOU CAN RESPOND BY MEMO AND SEND IT UP TO YOU COUNCIL
MEMBERS AND ALL SEE IT.
IT IS PUBLIC RECORD.
THAT IS REALLY -- THAT IS REALLY IT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I
THINK WE ARE A VERY GOOD CITY COUNCIL.
WE WORK VERY, VERY HARD.
PUTTING POLITICS ASIDE, YOU KNOW, I THINK APPRECIATE EACH
AND EVERY PERSON HERE, AND I THINK THE PUBLIC DOES TOO.
I AM GLAD THAT WE HAVE THIS KIND OF ENGAGEMENT.
AND THE PUBLIC TOO.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE IS VERY, VERY
ACTIVE AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE IT WASN'T ALWAYS LIKE
THAT.
I REMEMBER EARLY COUNCIL -- EARLY BUDGET MEET WITH COUNCIL
MEMBER MIRANDA, WE WOULD BE DONE IN 30 MINUTES AND A BILLION
DOLLAR BUDGET.
NOW WE ARE DIGGING INTO THINGS.
AND I THINK WE ARE REALLY DOING THE WORK THAT ARE EXPECTED
OF US.
AND --
03:39:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY INTERRUPT.
ALSO WHEN YOU SAY THAT, YOU HAVE TO SAY WHEN WE ADVERTISE
THAT ALL OVER THE CITY.
MAYBE ONE PERSON FROM THE COMMUNITY WOULD COME.
SOMETIMES NONE.
03:40:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YEAH, ONE PERSON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IN IS LIKE THE 5016 BUDGET.
NOW WE ARE HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
I TRY NOT TO DO ANYTHING.
BOOK ANYTHING FOR AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, BECAUSE IT IS
BUDGET.
AND NOW HURRICANE SEASON.
SO WE ARE BAGGED DOWN AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
IT IS VERY SIMPLE.
I HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR THIS BOARD.
I HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT COME
HERE.
NOT AN EASY JOB.
POLITICS IS NOT EASY.
I WAS IN CHURCH FOR ASH WEDNESDAY.
AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SERVICE, A GENTLEMAN APPROACHES
ME AND SAYS, HEY -- AS I AM PRAYING.
HEY, I MADE -- I TURNED ON CITY COUNCIL TODAY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL DO IT.
SO IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED, BUT IT WILL A VERY -- IT IS A
VERY STRESSFUL JOB.
AND THAT'S IT.
IF ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO SAY ANYTHING -- YES,
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
IF NOT, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION WE SET UP THIS SPECIAL
DISCUSSION PUBLICLY NOTICED AT THE END OF THE CRA MEETING
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE CRA MEETING MAY 8 IN THE SISTER
CITIES ROOM WHICH SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE.
ALL RIGHT.
THAT IS MY MOTION.
03:41:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
03:41:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
03:41:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO
AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:41:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DISCUSSION.
03:41:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DISCUSSION AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF
OBSERVATIONS.
ONE ON THE HAGAR ISSUE --
EXCUSE ME, I SAY THAT EVERY TIME.
I HAVE -- I AM NOT NECESSARILY IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
ONE, I VERY RARELY -- I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WORK --
GOING INTO THE BUDGET SEASON, I WILL.
I THINK THERE ARE TIMES -- AND I MAY BE DIGGING -- I DON'T
-- I AM THINKING THROUGH THINGS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING
FULLY FLUSH OUT.
I DON'T THINK I WRITE A MEMO TO COUNCIL AND HAVE PUBLIC --
COME OUT TO PUBLIC AND SAY WHAT I HAVE ASKED FOR AS FAR AS
INFORMATION.
BECAUSE -- LIKE I SAID, I AM THINKING THROUGH THINGS.
AND I GET YOUR INTENT.
MAYBE I DON'T BECAUSE I DON'T GET WHAT THE ISSUE IS THERE.
BUT I DON'T -- I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE INDIVIDUAL PERSONAL
RELATIONSHIPS AND EXPECTATIONS.
AND TO BE ABLE TO WORK ONE ON ONE, AND THEN MAYBE IN THE
GREATER PICTURE, I GET IT.
IF IT IS A BIG COMPREHENSIVE KIND OF THINGS.
I AM LOOK INTO DIGGING INTO SOMETHING AND RELATIVE TO
FUNDING STREETCAR TAMPA CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IS HAPPENING
WITH THIS PARTICULAR FUND.
I NEED TOE HAVE A MOTION BEFORE COUNCIL OR SOMETHING.
03:42:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S FAIR.
IF YOU WANT YOUR OWN PERSONAL INFORMATION, YOU SAY I WANT TO
MAKE A MOTION AND DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, STREET CAR FUNDING OR
WHATEVER IT IS THAT I TALKED TO MISSION KOPESKY ABOUT AND
BRING IT HERE.
I GUESS THAT --
03:42:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST DON'T THINK -- I DON'T THINK THAT
-- SHE IS AN EMPLOYEE OF EACH ONE US ON COUNCIL.
FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, SHE REPORTS TO THE CHAIR.
BUT WHEN WE ARE HIRING THE JOB -- IN THE JOB POSITION
DESCRIPTION, IT CLEARLY DELINEATED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN EACH
COUNCIL PERSON AND BOARD MEMBER OF THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP
AND RESOURCE AND SITTING IN ALL THE MEETINGS.
SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD INHIBIT THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN
EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND I WANT TO BRING IT.
03:43:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM NOT DONE YET.
03:43:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DON'T HAVE THE GAVEL.
03:43:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE THE FLOOR.
MY SECOND THING IS ON -- I REALLY APPRECIATE SCHEDULING THAT
MEETING.
I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
03:44:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE HAVEN'T VOTED.
03:44:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM SAYING I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
I AM SAYING I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THAT IDEA.
I THINK WE NEED TO COME WITH THE RIGHT TOOLS.
AND WITH CITY STAFF.
I THINK WE SEE THESE THINGS IN FRONT OF US.
ALL THE STAFF REPORT AND WORKLOAD.
A THAT WHEN WE GET THERE, WE SEE IT THROUGH OUR OWN EYES --
GET IT.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DIGEST -- IT IS DIFFICULT TO DO IT
JUST LIKE THAT.
03:44:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COME IN MY OFFICE, IT IS EVERYWHERE.
03:44:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE I SHOULD.
TO BE ABLE TO SEE -- SEE AND HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION
FROM STAFF AND HOW MUCH -- HOW MUCH MAN AND WOMAN HOURS WE
ARE CONSUMING GENERATING THIS AMOUNT OF WORK.
AND THEN KIND OF FIGURE OUT OF THE HOW TO CONSOLIDATE AND BE
MORE EFFICIENT.
UNLESS THANK YOU BRIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU AND PARSED DOWN.
WE NEED TO BE CHASING OUR TAILS.
TO HAVE THE INFORMATION.
03:45:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIR PRO TEM, MAY BE RECOGNIZED.
03:45:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL RECOGNIZE THE ATTORNEY.
03:45:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, WITH YOUR SPECIAL DISCUSSION
MEETING, I WOULD RESPECTFUL LEAVE REQUEST THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION BE REPRESENTED THERE AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
BE REPRESENTED THERE.
AND I AM REMINDED OF MISS ZELMAN'S MASTER MOTION LIST WHICH
IS MANUALLY COMPILED AND ADJUSTED BY STAFF ON A -- I DON'T
KNOW A DAILY BASIS OR A SIGN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT
WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND WHAT THEY HAVE TOE TO DO PROVIDE
YOU WITH THE INFORMATION.
03:45:45PM >> OUR ATTORNEY HAS MADE A SUGGESTION TO THE MAKER OF THE
MOTION.
WOULD THE MAKER OF MOTION LIKE TO ADOPT THOSE IN THE
DISCUSSION.
03:45:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
MOTION?
03:45:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YEAH, LET'S FINISH WHERE EVERYBODY
SPEAKS.
03:45:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN HOLD THAT THOUGHT FOR A SECOND.
LASTLY, THE LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS AND THEN I
WILL LET EVERYBODY ELSE.
REFERENCE -- HAVE THERE BEEN TIMES ON COUNCIL THAT I HAVE
BEEN UNCOMFORTABLE OR THINGS WORK, YES.
YOU KNOW -- THIS IS POLITICS.
YOU HIT IT HARD.
YOU HIT IT EXACTLY RIGHT.
A LOT OF TENSION.
THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
WE ARE GETTING POUNDED WITH OUR -- OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE
BEING FLOODED IN FOREST HILLS OR SOMEBODY IS COMPLAINING OF
THE TRASH ISN'T PICKED UP.
A LOT OF GRIEF AND AGGRAVATION.
STAFF IS OVERWORKED.
WE ARE TENSE.
EVERYBODY IS TENSE.
THIS IS A POLITICS.
ARE PEOPLE GOING TO CROSS THE LINE, YES.
BUT HAVEN'T BEEN THAT MANY.
I THINK GENERALLY THIS COUNCIL WORKS EFFECTIVELY TONIGHT AND
WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF REALLY COMPLEX ISSUES.
I KNOW EVERYBODY PROBABLY THINKS OF THEMSELVES.
AND THE ISSUE WE ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH AND WE SAID THIS
OTHER DAY.
I DIDN'T REALIZE TWO DAYS AGO WATER EXPERT.
AND SEWER EXPERT AND TRASH EXPERT.
AND ALL THESE THINGS WE ARE HAVING TO LEARN AND BE AN EXPERT
AT.
I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE GRANTED A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE
WHEN IT COMES TO THE HEATED MOMENTS AND THE POLITICAL ARENA.
AND WITH THAT WHO IN NEXT ON THE.
03:47:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HENDERSON.
03:47:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR JUST ABOUT
THE DATE MAY 8.
SOME IF WE CAN JUST VOTE ON THAT FIRST.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE WITH THE DISCUSSION ABOUT
DECORUM.
THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.
I ALSO DON'T LIKE TO LIMIT THE MEETING.
SO THAT WE CAN TAKE MEDICATION, EAT LUNCH AND DO THOSE OTHER
THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WE -- THE CRA MEETING MAY BE -- LOW PRESSURE PROBABLY GET
OUT IN A DECENT TIME, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND SEVERAL
HOURS IN SISTER CITY ROOM AND BE BACK HERE AT 5 P.M.
03:47:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LIMIT IT FOR AN HOUR.
03:48:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
LIMIT IT FOR AN HOUR I WOULD LIKE TO
RECOMMEND THAT WE DO AND VOTE ON THE MAY 8 AND FINISH THE
DISCUSSION.
03:48:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT BEING OFFERED BY
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT
TO LIMIT IT TO AN HOUR?
03:48:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I CAN DO IT IN TEN MINUTES.
BUT AN HOUR IT FINE.
03:48:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO MORE THAN AN HOUR.
03:48:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION ON THE FLOOR HAVING THIS MEETING
AND LIMITING IT TO ONE HOUR IN THE SISTER CITY ROOM.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION?
ALL THOSE IN THE FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
OPPOSED SAY NAY.
03:48:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU CAN HAVE THE GAVEL BACK.
03:48:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:48:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HAGAR, WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOUR SYSTEM SO
THAT WE CAN BE ACCOMMODATING TO YOU IN THIS ROLE.
03:48:52PM >> OKAY.
WELL, I THINK IF I CAN JUST KIND OF -- I THINK PART OF THIS
IS BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE, THERE IS AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO MAKE
SURE THAT IF I AM DOING WORK FOR ONE PERSON, YOU ALL MAKE AN
AGREEMENT WHEN AND IF IT IS.
AND YOU KNEELED TO BE UNDERSTOOD.
AND THE CHAIR IS ADDRESSING IN THE INITIAL REQUEST, OKAY.
FOR ME I WOULD SAY FOR MOST PART, IT IS JUST IMPORTANT THAT
THE REQUEST TO HAVE A SPECIFIC UNDERSTANDING SOMEONE I WILL
BE WORKING WITH STAFF, THAT THERE IS A DEADLINE RELATED TO
IT THAT IS CLEAR.
BUT REALLY FOR ME, THIS WAS LARGELY AROUND ENSURING THAT THE
EXPECTATION AMONGST THIS GROUP WOULD POSSIBLY BE THAT THERE
ARE GOING TO BE PROJECTS OF A NATURE THAT ARE GOING TO BE
BEST SERVED TO BE AWARE TO ALL OF YOU AND THERE ARE LIKELY
TO BE SOME SORT OF SMALL THINGS THAT COME UP AD HOC THAT --
AS IT IS CURRENTLY BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE COUNCIL PERSON.
SOMETIMES THERE ARE A PEAK AND SOME ISSUES WITH VOLUME.
03:50:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOUR JOB INVOLVES OTHER PEOPLE.
03:50:18PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
YES.
03:50:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IF THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS GOING TO MAKE
THAT MOTION.
ISN'T IT FAIR FOR TO YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT THEY ARE GOING
TO MAKE THAT MOTION SO YOU CAN AT LEAST GET TO -- DETERMINE
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE I AM GOING TO HAVE TO TALK TO AND THIS
IS THE TIMELINE THAT IS --
03:50:35PM >> MY IMPRESSION TO GET UNIFORMITY.
WITH MANY CASES WITH SOME OF YOU, I NOTIFY AHEAD OF TIME
THAT WILL HAPPEN.
OTHER TIMES A SHOOT FROM THE HIM KINDS OF THING.
ALL I AM SAYING IS, THE DIRT -- THE SPECIFIC QUESTION YOU
HAVE IS WILL I GET NOTICE AHEAD OF TIME.
I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LIKE TO KNOW.
03:50:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK PEOPLE.
SO THE TIMELINE THEY MAKE IN THEIR MOTION MAY BE STRESSFUL.
THAT IS THE WHOLE THING ABOUT THE DECORUM AND REDUCING
STRESS.
IT MAY TAKE -- SOMETIMES A MONTH TO GET ON THE CALENDAR.
SO IT IS FULL ALREADY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT YOU SHOULD BE --
YOU SHOULD AT LEAGUES BE --
03:51:27PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I THINK THE ACTIVITY WILL BE WHO WILL BE
INVOLVED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE AND JUST A REASONABLE
TIME FRAME THAT WORK GETS DONE.
REST OF THIS DISCUSSION IS REALLY BETWEEN ALL OF YOU TO
DETERMINE WHAT EACH OF YOU EXPECT IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUAL --
INDIVIDUAL WORK PRODUCTS I AM DOING ON BEHALF OF ONE.
03:51:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
03:51:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:51:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT DOES A BUDGET ANALYST MEAN TO YOU?
WHAT DOES THE WORD "BUDGET ANALYST" MEAN TO YOU.
ONLY TWO WORDS IN THIS THING, BUDGET AND ANALYST.
03:52:03PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I FOCUS ON THE ANALYST BECAUSE A YEAR-LONG
JOB.
NOT JUST RELATED TO THE BUDGET CYCLE.
THAT WOULD BE -- -- COULD BE WEEKLY PROBLEM SOLVING.
IT CAN BE PROCESS.
SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA FOR THE WEEK.
03:52:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT MEANS STRICTLY ON THE BUDGET OR AN AID
FOR CHARLIE MIRANDA?
03:52:23PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
YOU ARE ASKING MCSO, IT DOES NOT STRICTLY
RELATE TO THE FISCAL YEAR ANNUAL BUDGET.
ALSO THE EXECUTION OF THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
03:52:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I TELL YOU WHAT.
I AM NOT AFRAID TO SAY IT. IT.
I DON'T BLAME YOU AT ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS YOU GAVE US THE
OTHER DAY ON SOLAR IS WRONG.
03:52:39PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I KNOW YOU INTO HE WILL THAT WAY.
03:52:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SOMEBODY ELSE GAVE YOU HAVE THOSE
NUMBERS.
THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.
I KNOW WHAT I AM.
I AM LETTING YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW THEY ARE INCORRECT.
THAT IS NOT YOUR FAULT
03:52:52PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT --
03:52:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT IS WHAT I AM GETTING -- I WANT TO
GET YOU OUT OF THE LIMELIGHT TO DO YOUR JOB.
THAT IS ALL I WANT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE.
03:53:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND THEN CARLSON.
03:53:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST, AND WE HAVE A CARVE OUT FOR
WITH HAGAR WHO DOES A GREAT JOB.
ONLY WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IS LIKE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAL WORK
PRODUCT WHERE SOMETIMES I COME TO YOU -- POLITICAL WORK
PRODUCT.
WHERE I SOMETIMES COME TO YOU SAYING I AM THINKING OF DOING
THIS AND THAT.
IS IT FEASIBLE? EVERYBODY COMES ON COUNCIL SAND SAYS, HEY,
IT IS POLITICS, RIGHT.
I WISH THERE WAS A POLITICAL CARVE-OUT CLAUSE, RIGHT.
JUST TO THINK ABOUT THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING
LIKE THAT.
WE CAN SEEN LOOK -- WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF DECORUM WHEN IT
TALKS ABOUT THE TIME OF STAFF.
WE CAN LOOK AT THINGS, LIMITS ON MOTION TIME.
LIMIT ON PER COUNCIL MEMBER STAFF REPORTS.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY GOES OVER THIS.
THREE PER WEEK TO LOOK AT THAT THE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE
THINGS.
AGAIN I AM NOT GOING TO DIVE INTO THE WEEDS.
03:54:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND HURTAK.
03:54:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO THE POINT OF MISS KOPESKY.
COUNTY COMMISSIONS AND CITY COUNCILS THAT DON'T OF DON'T
HAVE AN EXECUTIVE BRANCH, ALL THE STAFF OF STAFF REPORTS TO
IT THE BOARD MEMBERS ALREADY.
IF WE WERE THE COUNTY, DIDN'T HAVE THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, ALL
THE STAFF WILL REPORT TO ALL OF US.
A NORMAL THING IN AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THE COUNTY.
I THINK I ONLY REQUESTED MISS KOPESKY FOR THREE QUESTIONS
SINCE SHE HAS BEEN ON BOARD.
I LIKE THE RESULTS SHE HAS GOT FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
AND I TRY NOT TO LOAD HER UP.
THE CHALLENGE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE BRANCH, SHE
HAS TO INTERFACE WITH THEM TOP OF GET THE INFORMATION THAT
WE NEED.
AND LIKE THE OTHER DAY I ASKED HER FOR CONFIRMATION AND SAID
CONSIDER ARE YOU JUST GET FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS THE
TOTAL NUMBER OF THE DEBT OF THE CITY.
THE TOTAL DEBT.
THAT IS SITTING ON MY DESK, $277 BILLION.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT NUMBER LATER.
BUT ANYWAY.
I JUST ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION.
TO GET THAT, SHE HAS TO GO -- SHE HAS ACCESS TO SOME
INFORMATION AND GO OUT -- SEEMS TO ME THAT THE LINE SHOULD
NOT BE NOT US INFORMING EACH OTHER, BUT GIVING HER THE
AUTHORITY FOR GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND ASK FOR
SOMETHING.
SOME IF -- I -- SHE CAN PUSH BACK ON THIS AND GIVE US HER
SUGGESTIONS, BUT IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TOO POLITICAL
FOR HER AS SHE IS CARRYING IT OVER AND SEEMS LIKE POLITICAL
QUESTION.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE NOW.
SOMEBODY ASKING A POLITICIZED QUESTION.
SHE WOULD SAY -- SHE COULD TELL US 101, WEIGHT OF COUNCIL AS
A WAY TO VOTE TO ASK FOR THIS.
THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE, IF IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME
OF STAFF BECAUSE SHE IS NOT DOING IT HER OWN.
I WOULD RATHER HAVE A PROCESS IF THE ISSUE REALLY IS HE
ABOUT HOW -- IF SHE HAD THE INFORMATION READY, SHE WOULD
EASILY GIVE IT TO US.
BUT IF IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND IF ITS GOING TO
BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALARM THE ADMINISTRATION, THEN --
THEN I THINK INDIVIDUALLY SHE SHOULD PUSH BACK AND ASK US TO
GET THE WEIGHT OF COUNCIL TO REQUEST HER TO TAMPA.
03:56:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:56:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
WHEN WE GO TO THE MAY MEETING, I WOULD LIKING TO HAVE AN
AGENDA.
I DON'T HAVE HOMEWORK TO TAKE WITH ME TO BE PREPARED FOR
THIS MEETING.
I DON'T WANT TO GO AND SIT FOR AN HOUR.
STAND. WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING AND WHAT QUESTIONS
WILL WE BE ASKING?
AS FAR AS KEEPING CALENDAR, THAT IS EACH OF OUR
RESPONSIBILITY.
AND MY AIDE AND I GO THROUGH THIS CALENDAR, LOOK AT OUR
OPTIONS, LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE ON HERE.
JUST, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE SOMETHING COMING UP.
WE HAVE THE BIMONTHLY REPORT ON THE PARKING COMPLIANCE.
JUST THIS WEEK, WE WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO ASK
YBOR IF THEY LIKE THIS AND IF WE NEED TO DO THIS ANYMORE.
WE ARE FOLLOWING UP ON OUR MOTIONS IN OUR OFFICE AND I
EXPECT THAT OTHER PEOPLE DO THAT AS WELL.
IF YOU ARE NOT, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING I CAN SOLVE FOR YOU.
BUT ADDITIONALLY, IT IS REALLY UP TO EACH OF US TO FIGURE
OUT OUR MOTIONS.
WE SHOULD COME KNOWING WHAT OTHER MOTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE
ALREADY.
IF WE NEED TO MODIFY OTHER PEOPLE'S MOTIONS.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I JUST HAVE TO HAVE -- I HAVE TO HAVE SOME -- SOME
PARAMETERS ON WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING A THIS
MEETING AND NOTHING IS BEING PRESENTED TO ME.
03:57:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS SUCH A GOOD POINT.
03:57:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, WORK WITH MY OFFICE AND YOUR
AIDE TO PUT AN AGENDA OF HOW THE LAY-OUT OF THE MEETING FOR
MAY?
03:58:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
I WOULD SEE THAT AGENDA AND BACK-UP INFORMATION, IF ANY,
GETS TO COUNCIL AT LEAST A WEEK IN ADVANCE.
03:58:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM.
03:58:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT?
03:58:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COMING FORWARD AND SAYING I WANT TO HAVE THIS
MEETING.
HERE IS THE AGENDA NOW.
LET'S ALL TALK ABOUT WHAT THE AGENDA MIGHT BE.
I WANT TO PUT THIS ON.
WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT THIS.
WE -- SHOULD COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING DURING UNFINISHED
BUSINESS WHERE WE HAVE AFTER DRAFT AGENDA, AND WE ALL GET TO
TALK ABOUT WHAT ELSE WE WANT TO PUT ON IT.
THAT WAY WE ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING WE WANT TO TALK
ABOUT.
03:58:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WILL BE GREAT FOR APRIL 17.
03:58:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EXCUSE ME, I ASSUMED THAT WOULD BE THE CASE
AT THE SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING WHERE THAT HAPPENS.
I WILL GIVE YOU -- I WILL GIVE YOU A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
IF COUNCIL -- THIS IS A JUST FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES.
IF COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE MORE IN-DEPTH DISCUSSIONS AT
WORKSHOP BECAUSE STAFF REPORTS HAVE EVOLVED BEYOND STAFF
REPORTS, INFORMATIONAL REPORTS THAT TOOK FIVE MINUTES AND
SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE WILL
RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT TO SOME DEGREE, EACH ITEM IS AN
EFFECTIVE WORKSHOP ITEM AND HARD TO PREDICT HOW LONG ITEMS
WILL TAKE.
THAT BEING THE CASE, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO INVEST MORE TIMES
IN WORKSHOPS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHEN WE LOOK AT
THE CALENDAR, FIVE MONTHS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE WORKSHOPS.
SEVEN WORKSHOPS AND A HALF DAY FOR THE COMING YEAR.
COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IF THEY WANT AN ALL-DAY
WORKSHOP.
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO HAVE WORKSHOPS ONCE A MONTH.
ADDRESS ITEMS IN YOUR CALENDAR, YOU MAY HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND EVERYTHING IS INTERRELATED.
SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT TO ASSIGN AN HOUR TO
THE DISCUSSION ON MAY 8 BOO BE PRELIMINARY IN FACT.
WE COULD PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE -- AND.
MY OTHER SUGGESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS DURING A
REGULAR MEETING WHERE WE HAVE THIS TELEVISED WHERE WE HAVE
STAFF PRESENT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND YOU -- AND YOU ARE ALL TALKING HERE OPPOSED TO FACING --
OUTWARDLY FACING RATHER THAN TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER.
HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.
I WILL TELL YOU THE CHAIR HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THIS.
ADMINISTRATION IS INVOLVED IN THIS AND CERTAINLY WANTS TO BE
AN IMPORTANT PARTICIPANT IN THIS FRANKLY WITH ALL YOU.
YOU ARE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY AND RELY ON THE
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
HOWEVER COUNCIL WANTS TO DO IT.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE TO MAKE YOU EFFECTIVE, YOU HAVE MY FULL
SUPPORT AND I KNOW THE CLEAR AND MISS EDWARD IS VERY MUCH ON
BOARD IN PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL LEADERSHIP THAT IS
NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT.
04:01:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
04:01:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SIMPLY SAY COME UP WITH AN AGENDA ON
AUGUST 8.
04:01:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY.
IT IS MAY.
04:01:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 8.
04:01:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I WROTE AUGUST.
I AM NOT GOING TO MAY 8 WITHOUT AN AGENDA.
WE ARE NOT DOING IT.
04:01:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL BRING SOMETHING BY APRIL 17
INFORM.
04:01:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS NOT WHAT I HEARD HIM SAY.
04:01:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GIVES MORE TIME TO SIT DOWN AND DO IT
AND PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
04:01:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
APRIL 17.
04:01:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT THE 3rd.
04:01:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
APRIL 17 TO GIVE US TIME TO CRUNCH
EVERYTHING.
PRESENTED APRIL 17 AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE CAN ALL BE PREPARED AND GIVES US WEEKS IN
ADVANCE BEFORE THE MAY 8.
04:02:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN I HAVE JUST HAVE ONE THING TO SAY ABOUT
-- WE ARE EACH DISTINCT INDIVIDUALS WITH DISTINCT
PERSONALITIES.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN BE ABLE TO ORGANIZE OUR WAY OUT OF
PERSONALITIES.
AND I DON'T MEAN THAT -- I MEAN, WE ARE WHO WE ARE.
WE JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT WHO WE ARE.
AND I AM JUST REALLY CURIOUS WHAT THIS AGENDA IS ABOUT,
BECAUSE I SEE WHAT -- I SEE IT AS WE ARE TRYING TO STOP
BEING PEOPLE WHO THEY ARE.
SOME OF US TALK MORE THAN OTHERS.
SOME OF US MAKE A LOT OF MOTIONS.
WE ARE ALL -- WE ARE ALL PART OF A QUIRKY FAMILY.
AND SO I AM JUST -- THAT IS WHY I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE
AGENDA, BECAUSE I JUST -- WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.
04:02:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:02:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TWO THINGS I WANT TO ADD TO THAT AND I AM GLAD COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK SAID THAT.
PEOPLE ARE -- I HAVE MY WAY OF DOING THINGS.
OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THEIR WAYS OF DOING THINGS AND RESPECT NOT
JUST THE WILL OF THE VOTERS.
AND I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, YOU CAN'T CHANGE WHO YOU ARE BUT
CONTAIN YOUR EXCESSES.
WHEN I SHOW MY EXCESSES, HELP ME CHANGE THEM.
WE ALL HAVE THEM.
WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.
WE ALL LOOK AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF OUR
PERSONALITIES AND SO FORTH.
YOU KNOW ONE THING -- I WAS GOING -- I WILL SAY THIS AND I
DON'T WANT A DISCUSSION ON THIS.
I CAN'T MANDATE ANYTHING.
BUT THERE ARE ELEPHANTS IN ROOMS THAT WHICH, FOR EXAMPLE, IN
'23, WE HAD ONE OF THE CRAZIEST CAMPAIGN SCENES I EVER SEEN
IN THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
I FOLLOW POLITICS FOR A LONG TIME AND TO IGNORE THAT WITH
THE EFFECT ON COUNCIL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT IS RELEVANT IN EVERYTHING.
BUT I AM GLAD COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED THAT.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ALL ARE DIFFERENT AND GO ABOUT THINGS
DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND I THINK ALL SEVEN OF US -- NUMBER ONE, WE WERE ALL
ELECTED.
AND ALL OF US FACED A LOT OF POLITICAL ADVERSITY AT ONE TIME
OR THE OTHER.
AND WE ALL GET A LOT OF THINGS DONE, BUT DO IT DIFFERENTLY.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO RESPECT OUR
DIFFERENCES ON.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
04:04:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:04:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
04:04:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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