CITY OF TAMPA WORKSHOPS
THURSDAY, APRIL 24, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:02:42AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:02:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
9:02:48AM WORKSHOP MEETING TO ORDER.
9:02:49AM AT THIS TIME, IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF
9:02:55AM SILENCE AND AT THIS TIME EVEN REMEMBER POPE FRANCIS ON HIS
9:03:01AM PASSING.
9:03:02AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:03:09AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:03:28AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:03:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ROLL CALL.
9:03:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:03:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:03:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:03:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:03:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:03:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:03:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:03:41AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:03:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:03:44AM MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REVIEW THE RULES AND
9:03:46AM PROCEDURES OF PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE WORKSHOPS?
9:03:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING.
9:03:49AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:03:50AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:03:52AM TODAY IS A WORKSHOP MEETING, THEREFORE THERE IS NO GENERAL
9:03:57AM PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE START OF THE WORKSHOP.
9:03:59AM PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE SUBJECT OF EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM WILL
9:04:03AM BE TAKEN AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATIONS AND BEFORE COUNCIL
9:04:08AM TAKES ANY ACTION, IF THEY ARE TO TAKE ANY ACTION AT ALL AT
9:04:12AM THE WORKSHOP ON THOSE ITEMS.
9:04:14AM IF YOU WISH TO REGISTER TO SPEAK AT ONE OF THOSE ITEMS, THE
9:04:20AM OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT IS AT THE KIOSK THAT IS OUTSIDE.
9:04:23AM AND YOU CAN EITHER REGISTER AT THE KIOSK OR USE THE QR CODES
9:04:27AM THAT ARE HANGING ON THE WALL AND ON YOUR PHONE AND YOU'RE
9:04:30AM ABLE TO REGISTER WITHOUT EVEN USING THE KIOSK OUTSIDE.
9:04:33AM IF YOU NEED THE WIFI, THE WIFI PASSWORD IS ALSO BY THE DOOR
9:04:38AM THERE.
9:04:38AM PLEASE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
9:04:41AM REMEMBER, PLEASE, THAT THE SUBJECTS WILL BE DISCUSSED AT
9:04:46AM PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF EACH DISCUSSION OF THE ITEM.
9:04:50AM THANK YOU.
9:04:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:04:51AM JUST A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING HERE, WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS, BUT ON
9:04:55AM ITEM NUMBER 3, I RECEIVED A MEMO FROM MR. EVAN JOHNSON, THE
9:05:01AM CHIEF PLANNER, AND JAVIER MARIN, REQUESTING A DISCUSSION OF
9:05:08AM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION
9:05:12AM PLAN BE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 30, 2025.
9:05:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
9:05:19AM I OBVIOUSLY DO WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT -- I WANTED THAT TO
9:05:24AM BE ON THE AGENDA WITH REGARDS TO THE ACTION PLAN, BECAUSE,
9:05:28AM OBVIOUSLY, SULPHUR SPRINGS NEEDS MORE THAN THE POOL IT HAD A
9:05:32AM YEAR AGO AND SO FORTH.
9:05:34AM OBVIOUSLY, I DO WANT TO HEAR ON THE STATUS OF THE POOL
9:05:37AM BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.
9:05:39AM I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT?
9:05:40AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE PART TWO OF THE MOTION -- OR
9:05:43AM PART TWO OF ITEM NUMBER 3 TO OCTOBER 30, 2025?
9:05:45AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:05:47AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:05:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:05:49AM AYE.
9:05:49AM THAT'S ALL THE HOUSEKEEPING I HAVE.
9:05:54AM AT THIS POINT, WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 1, THE PLANNING
9:05:56AM COMMISSION IS HERE TO PRESENT BY 2050, 81% OF TAMPA'S
9:06:02AM POPULATION OUTSIDE THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
9:06:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: I ACTUALLY HAVE A CITY MEETING THAT I HAVE TO
9:06:08AM DO.
9:06:09AM I'LL BE GONE FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
9:06:11AM SOMEBODY I HAVE TO MEET WITH ON CITY BUSINESS THAT CAME IN.
9:06:15AM JUST PARDON MY ABSENCE.
9:06:17AM THAT'S ALL.
9:06:17AM THANK YOU.
9:06:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:06:18AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:06:20AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:06:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:06:21AM THIS IS YASSERT GONZALEZ, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
9:06:24AM WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION UPLOADED, BUT IF NOT --
9:06:44AM THIS MORNING, WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TRENDS IN
9:06:49AM POPULATION AND JOBS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND
9:06:52AM OUTSIDE OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
9:06:56AM THERE ARE MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS AREA OF LATE.
9:07:02AM WE ARE TAILORED TO THE TRENDS BECAUSE AGAIN UPCOMING PUBLIC
9:07:07AM HEARINGS AND UPCOMING MEETINGS WHERE THOSE TOPICS WILL BE
9:07:11AM ADDRESSED.
9:07:12AM JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
9:07:14AM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
9:07:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THE CONTROLLER THERE.
9:07:23AM DO YOU SEE IT?
9:07:23AM IF YOU GO TO THE --
9:07:27AM >> THANK YOU.
9:07:28AM OKAY.
9:07:33AM WE HAVE PARTICIPANTS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME OR MAYBE NOT
9:07:35AM PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS ITEM, WE'RE JUST GOING TO
9:07:38AM TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, 30
9:07:42AM SECONDS OR SO.
9:07:44AM AGAIN, ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE.
9:07:45AM SO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA IS AN AREA ESTABLISHED BY
9:07:49AM THE STATE.
9:07:50AM IT'S AN AREA PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE TO COASTAL FLOODING AND
9:07:54AM TROPICAL STORM EVENTS.
9:07:57AM THE DEFINITION IS INGRAINED IN STATE STATUTE AND RESULTS
9:08:01AM FROM A MODEL.
9:08:02AM THEY DO MODELING.
9:08:03AM I WAS TALKING TO CHAIR MANISCALCO EARLIER WHERE WE SAID ALL
9:08:07AM THE STORMS THAT WE HAD LAST FALL, ALL THE MODELING THAT THE
9:08:11AM DATA PRODUCED IS GOING TO BE INTRODUCED INTO THE NEXT MODEL.
9:08:14AM EVERY SO OFTEN THEY CHANGE THE BOUNDARIES.
9:08:21AM AND WE FOUND OURSELVES WITH A NEW BOUNDARY.
9:08:26AM PLANNING COMMISSION AS OF FIVE YEARS AGO STARTED TO RETOOL
9:08:29AM ITS ANALYTICS DATA SHOP.
9:08:33AM WE INTRODUCED A BUNCH OF SOPHISTICATED TOOLS, MORE
9:08:37AM SPECIFICALLY GEOREFERENCED POPULATION ESTIMATES AND
9:08:40AM PROJECTIONS.
9:08:41AM THESE ARE PEOPLE WITH ACTUAL LOCATIONS ATTACHED TO THEM.
9:08:45AM SOMETIMES VERY SMALL AREAS ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
9:08:47AM SO ONCE WE HAVE THE NEW BOUNDARY AND THE SMALL AREA,
9:08:54AM PROJECTIONS AND ESTIMATES, WE DECIDED TO MODEL THE TWO AND
9:08:57AM COME UP WITH TRENDS IN LOOKING AT NUMBERS.
9:09:00AM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT'S ALWAYS OUT THERE, HOW MANY
9:09:04AM PEOPLE LIVE IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA?
9:09:07AM AND THEN HOW MANY PEOPLE GOING TO BE THERE IN 2050?
9:09:12AM AGAIN, YOU SEE THE SOPHISTICATED MODELS.
9:09:14AM ABOUT 67,000 TAMPANIANS ARE IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA
9:09:21AM RIGHT NOW.
9:09:21AM THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE TO AROUND 95, 97 -- I MEAN, 96,000.
9:09:26AM AGAIN, AROUND 30,000 SMALL CITIES GOING TO BE MOVING THERE
9:09:31AM BETWEEN NOW AND 2050 IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA MOSTLY.
9:09:35AM NOW, DESPITE ALL THE GROWTH, THE PROPORTION OF RESIDENTS
9:09:41AM LIVING WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA REMAINS A
9:09:45AM FRACTION.
9:09:45AM AGAIN, ONLY ONE -- I'M SORRY, TWO OUT OF TEN RESIDENTS THAT
9:09:49AM LIVE IN THE CITY LIVE WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
9:09:53AM GIVEN HOW SIZABLE THAT AREA IS AND HOW PRESTIGIOUS THOSE
9:09:57AM ARE, IT IS REMARKABLE THAT WE HAVE A FAIRLY LOW AMOUNT OF
9:10:00AM RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE.
9:10:03AM NOW WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE THERE.
9:10:10AM WHAT ABOUT NEW RESIDENTS?
9:10:11AM ARE MORE NEW RESIDENTS GOING INTO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
9:10:14AM AREA?
9:10:14AM WE LOOKED AT THAT AS WELL.
9:10:16AM WE HAVE GEOREFERENCE ESTIMATES AND PROJECTIONS.
9:10:18AM WE HAVE THE BOUNDARY.
9:10:20AM WE MONITOR THE TWO AND THIS IS HOW WE GET.
9:10:22AM WE'RE SEEING, YES, THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER HAD OF
9:10:26AM NEW RESIDENTS COMING INTO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND
9:10:28AM WE EXPECT EVEN MORE, BUT AGAIN OVERALL, ONE OUT OF EVERY
9:10:35AM FOUR NEW RESIDENTS IS GOING TO BE MOVING TO THE COASTAL HIGH
9:10:38AM HAZARD AREA.
9:10:38AM THREE OUT OF FOUR ARE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE OF THAT REGION.
9:10:41AM JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
9:10:42AM THIS IS, AGAIN, FROM 2022 ONWARDS.
9:10:45AM WHAT ABOUT EMPLOYMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE RETURN TO
9:10:48AM OFFICE MANDATES THAT WE HAVE?
9:10:49AM WHAT ABOUT EMPLOYMENT?
9:10:50AM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, AGAIN, WE HAVE GEOREFERENCED MODEL
9:10:56AM ESTIMATES AND THIS IS WHAT WE DISCOVERED WITH OUR DATA.
9:10:59AM AGAIN, ANOTHER 30,000 JOBS TO BE ADDED TO THIS AREA.
9:11:04AM NONETHELESS, IT REMAINS, AGAIN, A QUARTER OF THE JOBS ONLY
9:11:07AM IN THIS AREA.
9:11:08AM THINK ABOUT IT, MAJOR JOB CENTERS, DOWNTOWN, WESTSHORE, THAT
9:11:13AM ARE THERE AND STILL ONLY A QUARTER OF JOBS THAT WE CAN
9:11:17AM ESTIMATE ARE WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
9:11:19AM THE REST ARE OUTSIDE.
9:11:20AM WHAT ABOUT NEW JOBS THAT WE, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF COMING IN
9:11:24AM EXCLUSIVELY TO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA?
9:11:26AM AGAIN, THE DATA IS NOT SHOWING THAT.
9:11:29AM WE DO SEE THERE IS A PERIOD BETWEEN 2015 AND 2020 WHERE
9:11:33AM THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF JOBS THAT WENT INTO THE
9:11:36AM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, PRIMARILY DOWNTOWN.
9:11:38AM AGAIN, AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE'RE CREATING BRAND-NEW
9:11:41AM NEIGHBORHOODS HERE.
9:11:42AM THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
9:11:44AM BUT GOING FORWARD, WE SEE IT WILL GO AGAIN 85%, 84% OF THE
9:11:50AM NEW JOBS ARE GOING TO BE GOING OUTSIDE.
9:11:52AM NOW, IT DON'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE EXTENDING THE SLOPE OF THE
9:11:58AM LINE.
9:11:58AM SEEMS LIKE, WOW, HOW INTERESTING, 2022 AND IN 2050 YOU HAVE
9:12:05AM A SIMILAR NUMBER.
9:12:06AM I ASSURE YOU WE HAVE PLENTY OF -- THE MODELING LOCALLY.
9:12:12AM CONSULTED WITH PLANNERS BOTH INSIDE THE CITY AND LAND USE
9:12:15AM WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:12:15AM AGAIN, WE KNOW, AGAIN, YOUR REFERENCE ESTIMATES.
9:12:19AM WE ALSO KNOW WHAT PROPERTIES ARE LIKELY TO DEVELOP OR
9:12:25AM REDEVELOP.
9:12:25AM SO THAT'S HOW WE MARRY THE TWO.
9:12:27AM SO THE CAPACITY THAT WE SHOW HERE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE
9:12:30AM CAPACITY IN ORDER TO HAVE THE GROWTH AND THESE NUMBERS
9:12:32AM REFLECT IT.
9:12:33AM NOW, IT'S 2025, RIGHT?
9:12:39AM I'M STILL TALKING ABOUT 2020 DATA.
9:12:43AM WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT?
9:12:44AM AGAIN, HERE, WE DID A SPECIFIC SLIDE THAT WE ARE GOING
9:12:48AM OUTSIDE THE BLOCK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE BLOCK WAS PUBLISHED
9:12:51AM A YEAR AGO TO FRESHEN UP THE DATA.
9:12:54AM AGAIN, FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOU ALL AND FOLKS WATCHING US.
9:12:57AM WE DO SEE THAT OVERALL, OVER THE TEN-YEAR PERIOD, 2015-2024,
9:13:07AM 66% OF THE NEW RESIDENTS MOVED OUTSIDE OF THE COASTAL HIGH
9:13:12AM HAZARD AREA.
9:13:13AM NOW, THERE IS A PERIOD THERE 2022-2024, AGAIN, HARD TO TELL
9:13:19AM OTHERWISE.
9:13:20AM BRAND-NEW BUILDINGS, BRAND-NEW STREETS COMING UP.
9:13:22AM ESSENTIALLY THERE WAS A TIME BETWEEN 2020 AND 2024, 52% OF
9:13:28AM THE NEW RESIDENTS MOVED INTO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA
9:13:31AM VERSUS 48% OUTSIDE.
9:13:32AM AGAIN, THAT WAS A SMALL NUMBER OVERALL, AND WE EXPECT THE
9:13:36AM TRENDS TO CONTINUE WHERE MOST RESIDENTS COMING TO THE CITY
9:13:40AM ARE GOING TO BE MOVING OUTSIDE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE
9:13:42AM CAPACITY IS, ESSENTIALLY.
9:13:43AM HOW ABOUT PERMITS?
9:13:48AM AGAIN, ARE WE APPROVING A BUNCH OF PERMITS INSIDE THE
9:13:51AM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA?
9:13:53AM DEFINITELY APPROVE A LOT OF PERMITS IN THE COASTAL HAZARD
9:13:57AM AREA.
9:13:57AM NONETHELESS, A MAJORITY OF THE PERMITS ARE OUTSIDE.
9:14:00AM THIS IS JUST FOUR YEARS.
9:14:01AM BUT WE COULD HAVE GONE BACK TO 2011 AND SHOWN THE DATA SET.
9:14:06AM IT'S NOT CHERRYPICKING.
9:14:07AM WE LIMIT IT BY THE SIZE OF THE SLIDE, BY HOW MUCH
9:14:11AM INFORMATION WE CAN PUT IN THERE.
9:14:12AM AGAIN THAT DATA IS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST OR CITY STAFF HAS
9:14:15AM ALL THE DATA IN TERMS OF LIKE, AGAIN, ALLOW ME TO THANK CITY
9:14:19AM STAFF FOR BEING SO EFFICIENT AND GENEROUS WITH THE TIME WHEN
9:14:22AM IT COMES TO THE PERMITTING DATA.
9:14:24AM THIS PERMITTING DATA COMES FROM THEM, FROM YOU ALL.
9:14:26AM EVERY TIME WE HAVE A QUESTION, THEY ARE ABLE TO RESPOND VERY
9:14:29AM QUICKLY AND WE CAN ALWAYS GET SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE.
9:14:31AM PRESENTING THIS DATA BACK TO YOU AND THE POINT OF THE SLIDE
9:14:34AM IS, AGAIN, TOTAL PERMITS BEING ISSUED INSIDE THE COASTAL
9:14:39AM HAZARD AREA.
9:14:40AM NONETHELESS, THE MAJORITY, TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN 55 AND 72
9:14:43AM PERCENT ARE OUTSIDE.
9:14:43AM TO CONCLUDE, WE ARE LOOKING AT, AGAIN, OVER 80% OF RESIDENTS
9:14:53AM IN 2020 AND THE SAME IN 2050 ARE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE
9:14:59AM COASTAL HAZARD AREA.
9:15:02AM WE DO NOTICE A SMALL CITY, 30,000 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE
9:15:05AM MOVING IN THERE.
9:15:06AM STILL, GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OUTSIDE.
9:15:08AM NEW RESIDENTS, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE OUT OF FOUR NEW
9:15:12AM RESIDENTS MOVING IN, WHETHER THE PERIOD IS IN THE PAST AND
9:15:15AM CONTINUE IN THE FUTURE.
9:15:17AM LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE VERY SMALL ESTIMATES.
9:15:20AM THEY ARE GEOREFERENCED.
9:15:21AM WE LOOK AT THE CAPACITY IN TERMS OF DEVELOPABLE LANDS.
9:15:25AM THIS IS WHAT THE CAPACITY HOLDS.
9:15:27AM WE'RE LOOKING AT GROWTH RATE.
9:15:28AM SOME OF THE GROWTH RATES, YOU KNOW, ARE FAST IN THE COASTAL
9:15:31AM HAZARD BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE -- IN THE AREA.
9:15:35AM SAME THING WITH JOBS.
9:15:36AM RETURN TO OFFICE MANDATES, THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITY FOR
9:15:40AM THOSE JOBS TO COME INTO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD, MOST OF
9:15:43AM THEM WILL BE OUTSIDE, OF COURSE.
9:15:44AM LASTLY, IT IS THE NUMBER OF PERMIT, YES, CERTAINLY A FAIR
9:15:48AM AMOUNT OF PERMITS ARE BEING ISSUED IN THE COASTAL HAZARD
9:15:50AM AREA, BUT THE OVERALL, MOST OF THEM ARE OUTSIDE.
9:15:55AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE IN TERMS OF THIS.
9:15:58AM ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
9:16:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL HAVE THE TIMER SET FOR FIVE
9:16:04AM MINUTES FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.
9:16:06AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:16:06AM GO AHEAD.
9:16:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE PERMIT.
9:16:11AM DO WE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, SAY, A HOUSE BEING
9:16:16AM DEMOLISHED AND REBUILT VERSUS BRAND-NEW CONSTRUCTION?
9:16:21AM >> THAT STUDY IS DOABLE, BUT THIS -- THESE NUMBERS DON'T
9:16:28AM SHOW THAT.
9:16:29AM YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'LL GET, FOR EXAMPLE, DUPLEX, NUMBERS
9:16:35AM SHOWING IN OUR SLIDES WOULD BE TWO HOUSES.
9:16:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT I'M INTERESTED
9:16:41AM IN FINDING OUT.
9:16:42AM IF THE PERMITS ARE JUST -- IF WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT
9:16:48AM ADDITIONAL HOUSING OR IF IT'S REDONE HOUSING.
9:16:52AM OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANES, A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE
9:16:56AM CHOSEN OR ARE CHOOSING TO DEMOLISH THEIR HOUSE AND REBUILD
9:17:00AM IT HIGHER.
9:17:01AM THAT IS LIKE A NET ZERO.
9:17:05AM >> YEAH, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
9:17:09AM AGAIN, THERE WILL BE AN ELEMENT OF MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT
9:17:12AM THAT WE SEE INSIDE THE COASTAL HAZARD AREA IT WILL BE
9:17:17AM REDEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTIES.
9:17:18AM MOST OF THE PERMITS YOU'RE SEEING THERE, WE EXPECT TO SEE
9:17:21AM REDEVELOPMENT OF SOMETHING.
9:17:22AM HAVE A HOUSE THERE AND SOMEBODY PUTS A NEW HOUSE.
9:17:25AM YEAH, WE'RE NOT EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT NECESSARILY.
9:17:28AM WHAT WE'RE DOING, AGAIN, IS JUST AGAIN SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IN
9:17:31AM A LARGER LOT, IT'S GOING TO BE DUPLEX OR LARGER HOME.
9:17:37AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
9:17:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:17:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M KIND OF JUST -- I WANT TO ADDRESS FOR
9:17:42AM THE RECORD AND FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION SOME OF THE STUFF I'VE
9:17:46AM BEEN HEARING OUT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
9:17:48AM IT'S RELATED TO THIS ISSUE WITH THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
9:17:50AM AREA.
9:17:51AM AS WE'RE CHANGING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT, I'VE HEARD
9:17:56AM STATEMENTS COMING FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT SOME
9:17:58AM BOARD MEMBERS DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA'S IDEALS OF
9:18:01AM HOW WE'LL DEVELOP THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND RESTRICT
9:18:05AM BONUS DENSITIES AND THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT THIS BOARD HAS
9:18:08AM SUPPORTED.
9:18:09AM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PUBLICLY I JUST -- THOSE OF YOU
9:18:13AM ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT ARE THINKING THAT YOU'RE
9:18:15AM GOING TO GET THROUGH A PLAN THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO
9:18:18AM OVERDEVELOP SOUTH TAMPA AND OTHER AREAS THAT ARE IN THE
9:18:22AM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, YOU'RE DREAMING IF YOU THINK
9:18:25AM YOU'LL GET IT THROUGH.
9:18:27AM IT'S DOA HERE.
9:18:28AM THESE POLICIES, THE DATA YOU JUST PRESENTED US, IS ONLY
9:18:35AM GOING TO WORK AS IF THOSE OF US IN GOVERNMENT CREATE
9:18:39AM POLICIES THAT ARE INTENTIONAL TO MINIMIZE GROWTH IN THESE
9:18:48AM HAZARDOUS AREAS.
9:18:51AM IF WE BURY OUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND PRETEND THEY DON'T EXIST
9:18:56AM AND ALLOW DENSITY TO EXPLODE IN THE AREAS, THEN YOUR DATA
9:19:00AM WON'T REFLECT REALITY.
9:19:02AM QUITE FRANKLY, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE RESTRICTIONS, BECAUSE
9:19:06AM THEY ARE ATTRACTIVE AREAS, HIGH-QUALITY AREAS TO LIVE IN,
9:19:09AM DEVELOPERS WILL COME IN AND THEY WILL OVERDEVELOP AND WE'LL
9:19:12AM HAVE WAY TOO MANY RESIDENTS IN AREAS THAT WE SHOULD NOT.
9:19:17AM I GET THE AREA, EVEN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT THAT IS A VERY
9:19:20AM SPECIAL SITUATION.
9:19:21AM WE HAVE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION THAT WITHSTANDS THE NATURAL
9:19:25AM DISASTERS AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO EVACUATE PEOPLE
9:19:28AM BECAUSE OF THE INTERSTATES.
9:19:29AM WHEN YOU MOVE INTO SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, EVACUATION
9:19:31AM IS A SERIOUS ISSUE AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANT TO
9:19:34AM RESTRICT THE DEVELOPMENT.
9:19:35AM THIS IS NOT AS MUCH TO YOU BUT ABOUT THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT
9:19:38AM KEEP LEAKING OF WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ABOUT THE COASTAL HIGH
9:19:41AM HAZARD AREA.
9:19:41AM THANK YOU.
9:19:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN CARLSON.
9:19:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:19:45AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
9:19:47AM I UNDERSTAND THE SHIFT MOVING FROM THE INSIDE TO THE OUTSIDE
9:19:55AM OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
9:19:57AM HOWEVER, ANY BUILDING CODES GOING TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE OF
9:19:59AM THAT?
9:20:00AM OR STILL BUILD THE SAME HOUSES THAT WE'RE BUILDING NOW AND
9:20:03AM BE AS VULNERABLE AS WE WERE YESTERDAY?
9:20:05AM I DON'T KNOW THAT.
9:20:06AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT.
9:20:09AM I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT.
9:20:10AM ANY CHANGES GOING TO BE MADE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN IF YOU
9:20:15AM ARE OUTSIDE THAT YOUR INSURANCE RATE WON'T CONTINUE TO
9:20:20AM CLIMB?
9:20:20AM WE HAVE OURSELVES -- AND NOT YOU.
9:20:23AM I'M TALKING ABOUT US HUMAN BEINGS, ALL OF US -- HAVE BEEN
9:20:26AM USED TO LIVING IN A WAY THAT MAY CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.
9:20:31AM I SAY "MAY" BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS COMING.
9:20:36AM MAY PREPARE FOR A CLASS ONE HURRICANE AND GET READY AND THEN
9:20:40AM ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET ONE ENORMOUSLY DIFFERENT AND THAT
9:20:44AM DOESN'T HOLD WELL.
9:20:45AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT FROM THE WEATHER.
9:20:47AM AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE COASTAL AREAS THAT NOW ZONED
9:20:53AM HIGH DENSITY, BIG BUILDINGS, ARE THEY STILL GOING TO BE
9:20:56AM ALLOWED IN THE AREA?
9:20:57AM I DON'T KNOW ALL THAT.
9:20:58AM BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THAT, WHAT IS THE
9:21:01AM RISK.
9:21:01AM I SEE THE CONDOMINIUM OWNERS, ASSOCIATION EVEN IN
9:21:05AM TALLAHASSEE, THEY ARE IN A FIGHT FOR THEIR LIFE BECAUSE THE
9:21:08AM INSURANCE RATES AND THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE PAYING IN FEES
9:21:11AM FOR THE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION ARE SO HIGH THAT EVEN THEY
9:21:13AM CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY THERE TO SOME DEGREE.
9:21:15AM NOTICE I SAID TO SOME DEGREE.
9:21:18AM BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS.
9:21:19AM I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.
9:21:20AM TO THE POINT AND VERY WELL EXPLAINED.
9:21:23AM BUT I'M LEFT WITH SOMETHING -- I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
9:21:26AM FOR INSTANCE, I OWN A VACANT LOT THAT I'VE HAD FOR 40 YEARS.
9:21:31AM NOT THAT I HAVE ONE.
9:21:32AM I'M JUST SAYING THAT.
9:21:34AM IN A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, AND I HAVEN'T DEVELOPED IT.
9:21:38AM ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW I WANT TO DEVELOP IT.
9:21:42AM HIGH-RISE, ZONED HIGH-RISE AND I'VE HAD IT FOR 40 YEARS.
9:21:46AM BUT 40 YEARS AGO, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE.
9:21:50AM DIDN'T HAVE THE HURRICANES THAT WE HAVE.
9:21:51AM SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO MESH INTO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
9:21:54AM TODAY?
9:21:55AM THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IN MY
9:21:59AM OPINION, NOT BECAUSE OF YOU OR YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT
9:22:02AM WE HAVE TO BE MY POINT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC AND I
9:22:06AM DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY ANYONE'S RIGHTS, BUT I WANT THOSE TO
9:22:12AM UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING BECAUSE IT HAS TO CHANGE.
9:22:14AM WE'VE HAD AN ENORMOUS TRAFFIC PROBLEM.
9:22:16AM WE'VE HAD ENORMOUS CHANGE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
9:22:19AM SOONER OR LATER WE'RE GOING TO BE STRESSED OUT IN A LOT OF
9:22:22AM AREAS LIKE WATER, AND WHERE WE GET THE WATER FROM IF THE
9:22:26AM AREA CONTINUES TO GROW AT THE WAY IT'S GROWING.
9:22:29AM NOT ONLY TAMPA, ALL OF THIS AREA, FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
9:22:31AM TO PINELLAS, TO PASCO, TO MANATEE, TO ALL THOSE ARE GOING TO
9:22:35AM BE FACED WITH THE SAME PROBLEM WE HAVE.
9:22:38AM I THINK WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AND NOT BY GIVING YOU
9:22:41AM DIRECTION IN ANY WAY AS TO WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE GOODS AND
9:22:45AM SERVICES THAT ALL THE GOVERNMENTS GIVE AND HOW DO WE MAKE
9:22:48AM SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX THAT MEET THE
9:22:52AM FUTURE EXPECTATION IF IT DOES COME, WE HAVE TO BE READY.
9:22:56AM THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
9:22:58AM >> IF I MAY RESPOND, ADD TO YOUR COMMENT, IF I MAY.
9:23:03AM THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE MORE SPECIFIC IN DENSITY AND
9:23:07AM SUCH ARE HAPPENING ALMOST PARALLEL TO THIS CONVERSATION.
9:23:09AM AGAIN, THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES ON THE 22nd OF THE
9:23:12AM PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT WILL COME IN FRONT OF YOU WHERE
9:23:14AM THIS CONVERSATION CAN BE HAD.
9:23:16AM AGAIN, THE COMMISSION IS, WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY DO WE WANT
9:23:19AM TO LIVE IN?
9:23:20AM WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY WE WANT FOR THE FUTURE?
9:23:22AM THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS HAPPENING.
9:23:23AM AGAIN, MS. MALONE IS THE LEAD ON THAT.
9:23:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:23:28AM WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS.
9:23:31AM MAYBE THIS IS THE TIME TO START TALKING ABOUT THEM FOR THE
9:23:33AM FUTURE.
9:23:33AM THAT'S ALL.
9:23:34AM THANK YOU.
9:23:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:23:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, UNTIL ABOUT A YEAR AGO, A LOT OF THIS
9:23:39AM WAS HYPOTHETICAL AND IT WAS SET UP AS A FIGHT BETWEEN
9:23:42AM NEIGHBORS OR NIMBY VERSUS DEVELOPERS.
9:23:45AM A LOT OF THE LAND, ESPECIALLY ON THE PENINSULA OF SOUTH
9:23:50AM TAMPA AND TOWARD THE SOUTH NEAR MacDILL HAS TO BE
9:23:54AM CHANGED IN ZONING, SO A LOT OF IT WAS INDUSTRIAL, PROPOSED
9:23:57AM CHANGE IN A THOUSAND UNITS.
9:24:00AM IT WAS A SETUP AGAINST NEIGHBORS AND BUILDERS.
9:24:04AM BUT WHAT WE KNEW WAS COMING ALL ALONG CAME NOT QUITE A YEAR
9:24:09AM AGO.
9:24:10AM AND EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TYPICALLY SOME KIND OF STORM WHERE WE
9:24:14AM HAVE TO EVACUATE.
9:24:15AM MOST OF THE PENINSULA OF SOUTH TAMPA IS IN EVACUATION ZONE
9:24:19AM A.
9:24:19AM THAT MEANS WE GET EVACUATED FIRST.
9:24:21AM AND MacDILL USUALLY FINDS OUT ABOUT AN HOUR BEFORE THE
9:24:25AM COUNTY EVACUATES, SO THE MacDILL PEOPLE EVACUATE TO GET
9:24:28AM FROM MacDILL TO GANDY TAKES AN HOUR OR MORE, IF THEY GET
9:24:32AM AN HOUR EARLY NOTICE.
9:24:35AM AND THAT MEANS THAT IT'S A REAL LIFE-OR-DEATH SITUATION.
9:24:39AM WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE'S LIVES AT RISK.
9:24:41AM IT IS NOT A DEBATE ANYMORE ABOUT DEVELOPER VERSUS NIMBYS.
9:24:45AM IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING PEOPLE'S LIVES.
9:24:47AM THINK ABOUT ST. PETERSBURG COMES THROUGH SOUTH TAMPA, EITHER
9:24:51AM ON THE SELMON OR THE MAIN ROADS.
9:24:54AM MacDILL, WHICH IS A HUGE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL
9:24:57AM SECURITY ASSET HAS TO GET OUT.
9:25:00AM AND THEN ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE.
9:25:01AM SO IF YOU PUT 10 OR 20 THOUSAND MORE UNITS RIGHT NEXT TO
9:25:05AM MacDILL, IN A STORM, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO
9:25:07AM GET OUT.
9:25:08AM AND THEN AS THEY BUILD UP ALL THE ROADS, THEN THE REST OF
9:25:13AM THE FOLKS IN TAMPA CAN'T GET OUT.
9:25:14AM FROM AN EVACUATION POINT OF VIEW, IT'S A REAL RISK.
9:25:18AM THE SECOND THING IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:25:25AM SO BECAUSE THE HOUSES ARE FLOODING, WE HAVE TO BUILD
9:25:29AM MULTIBILLION DOLLAR INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:25:32AM THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOES NOT PAY FOR THE VALUE
9:25:37AM THAT THE TAXPAYERS ARE GETTING IN BUILDING THOSE EXTRA
9:25:40AM UNITS.
9:25:40AM WHEN WE HAVE PLENTY OF LAND WHERE WE CAN BUILD THOUSANDS AND
9:25:46AM THOUSANDS OF HOMES IN AREAS THAT ARE HIGHER UP AND ARE NOT
9:25:48AM GOING TO FLOOD, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO CONTINUE TO BUILD
9:25:51AM THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:25:52AM IT WILL TAKE US DECADES TO MAKE BACK THE TAX MONEY TO DO
9:25:55AM THAT.
9:25:56AM JUST BEING GOOD CUSTODIANS OF TAXPAYER MONEY, WE WOULDN'T
9:26:00AM PUT THINGS IN PLACES WHERE WE HAVE TO BUILD MORE
9:26:02AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:26:02AM THE OTHER THING IS THAT CITIES AND COUNTIES ALL AROUND THE
9:26:06AM STATE ARE HELPING PEOPLE TO RAISE THEIR HOUSES.
9:26:09AM AT LEAST $400,000 TO HAVE SOMEBODY RAISE THEIR HOMES.
9:26:12AM AGAIN, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY.
9:26:16AM WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GO IN ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND RAISE THE
9:26:19AM HOMES.
9:26:20AM THE MORE DEVELOPMENT AND MORE DENSITY WE GET, THE MORE
9:26:23AM FLOODING WE GET, THE LESS PERMEABLE AREA WE HAVE.
9:26:25AM WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THIS FLOODING, IT'S FROM FRESHWATER
9:26:31AM AND FROM SURGE.
9:26:33AM NOT A HYPOTHETICAL.
9:26:34AM HAPPENED.
9:26:35AM THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, RICH AND POOR IN SOUTH TAMPA, LOST
9:26:38AM THEIR HOMES.
9:26:39AM I STILL GOT PEOPLE NEAR PORT TAMPA WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO
9:26:43AM REBUILD THEIR HOMES.
9:26:44AM THEY ARE LIVING IN HOMES WITH MOLD BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE
9:26:46AM INSURANCE AND THEY HAVE NO ABILITY TO REBUILD IT.
9:26:49AM TO ME, IT'S RECKLESS TO NOT TRY TO PUSH PEOPLE INTO THE
9:26:53AM AREAS THAT ARE NOT COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREAS BECAUSE THEY
9:26:56AM CAN GET OUT FASTER, COST TAXPAYERS LESS, AND PEOPLE ARE NOT
9:26:59AM GOING TO LOSE THEIR HOMES.
9:27:00AM THANK YOU.
9:27:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
9:27:02AM YES, MA'AM.
9:27:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TO KIND OF FOLLOW ON WHAT OTHERS SAID,
9:27:09AM I, TOO, AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES BEING SO
9:27:13AM TIGHT, THE PROJECTIONS, AND IT REALLY IS INCUMBENT ON US TO
9:27:19AM MAKE SURE IT'S NOT THAT TIGHT.
9:27:24AM ABSOLUTELY, WE NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THIS AND THE
9:27:28AM CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES AND THE
9:27:32AM CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD SOON WILL BE SUPER
9:27:35AM IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AREN'T OVERDEVELOPING IN
9:27:38AM THESE AREAS AND RISKING PEOPLE'S LIVES AND PROPERTY EVEN
9:27:41AM MORE THAN THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN RISKED.
9:27:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:27:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:27:45AM YES, MA'AM.
9:27:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.
9:27:48AM I KNOW YOU ARE THE FACE OF THE PRESENTATION THIS MORNING.
9:27:50AM CAN YOU GIVE US THE BACKGROUND OF THE INDIVIDUALS OR
9:27:55AM COMMITTEE THAT PUT THIS REPORT TOGETHER FOR US?
9:27:58AM >> YES, INDEED.
9:27:59AM WELL, WE HAVE A DATA SHOP.
9:28:01AM YOURS TRULY IS THE LEAD FOR THE DATA SHOP, OF THE PLANNING
9:28:07AM COMMISSION.
9:28:09AM THE CHARGE THAT I RECEIVED FIVE YEARS AGO, RETOOL THIS UNIT
9:28:15AM AND BRING IN MORE SOPHISTICATED TOOLS.
9:28:17AM OUR SMALL AREA PROJECTIONS AND ESTIMATES, WE NEEDED TO BRING
9:28:21AM DATA TO THE PEOPLE.
9:28:22AM DATA LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR ME TO GET UP FROM MY
9:28:25AM BED AND PICK UP THE PHONE TO TALK TO YOU.
9:28:27AM WE PUBLISH A BLOG OR WE PUBLISH A DASHBOARD WHERE YOU CAN GO
9:28:32AM AND SEARCH, WHETHER YOU WANT A PLANNING DISTRICT, ZIP CODE
9:28:36AM LEVEL ANALYTICS OR SMALL AREA ANALYTICS, THAT IS PUBLISHED.
9:28:41AM ALSO, FOR SOME OF THE AREAS LIKE COMMUNITY CHARACTERISTICS
9:28:44AM THAT WE HAVE, WE PUBLISH A BLOG WHERE WE DESCRIBE, WHEN
9:28:50AM PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING, GOOGLE IT COMES UP, AND WE ARE THE ONE
9:28:53AM PROVIDING THE INFORMATION OR ONE OF THE SOURCES THERE.
9:28:55AM AGAIN, IT'S JUST YOURS TRULY THE ANALYTICS ASPECT, THE
9:29:01AM NUMBERS.
9:29:01AM BUT WE ALSO HAVE PARTICIPATION FROM LAND USE PLANNERS, BOTH
9:29:04AM INSIDE THE CITY AND INSIDE EVERY JURISDICTION HELPING,
9:29:08AM LOOKING AT A SELECTION OF PARCELS FOR THE -- REDEVELOPMENT,
9:29:13AM FOR EXAMPLE.
9:29:13AM LOOKING AT GROWTH RATES.
9:29:14AM HIGHER, LOWER.
9:29:17AM LOOKING AT POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF URBAN SERVICE AREAS.
9:29:21AM ALL THOSE PROFESSIONS CAME TOGETHER IN ORDER TO DEVELOP
9:29:23AM THIS, AND WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT HAS AGAIN THE REPORT WITH
9:29:26AM THE DATA SETS.
9:29:28AM WE ARE A SLIM OPERATION.
9:29:33AM YOURS TRULY WITH A LITTLE ASSISTANCE FROM OTHERS, YES.
9:29:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WAS A LOT,
9:29:39AM YOU SAID THAT OUR CITY STAFF PARTICIPATED IN THE
9:29:42AM FINALIZATION OF THIS REPORT.
9:29:43AM >> YES.
9:29:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:29:45AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:29:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:29:46AM ANYTHING ELSE?
9:29:47AM IF NOT, WE HAVE CARROLL ANN BENNETT REGISTERED TO SPEAK FOR
9:29:52AM PUBLIC COMMENT VIRTUALLY.
9:29:53AM IS SHE REGISTERED FOR ALL THE ITEMS?
9:29:55AM JUST ITEM 1.
9:29:57AM OKAY.
9:29:57AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT, IF YOU ARE ONLINE, YOU HAVE THREE
9:30:00AM MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THEN STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:30:05AM >> HI.
9:30:06AM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
9:30:07AM I WANT TO SAY THAT THERE WAS A PRESENTATION DONE BY DAVID
9:30:17AM HEY AND STEVEN VINCENT A WHILE BACK THAT SHOWED FROM 2010 TO
9:30:21AM 2020 THAT SOUTH TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA HAD THE HIGHEST GROWTH
9:30:27AM RATES IN THE CITY, EVEN THOUGH THE COMP PLAN SAID THEY
9:30:29AM SHOULD HAVE THE LOWEST GROWTH RATE.
9:30:31AM THEY EXPLAINED THAT NEW TAMPA'S GROWTH WAS THROUGH VERY
9:30:36AM LARGE SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAD BEEN PERMITTED AND APPROVED LONG
9:30:40AM AGO, AND THAT THOSE WERE FINISHING UP AND THAT AS YOU SAW,
9:30:43AM THEIR GROWTH RATE WAS DECREASING.
9:30:47AM AT THE SAME TIME, SOUTH TAMPA'S GROWTH RATE WAS INCREASING.
9:30:51AM BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020, WE HAD THE HIGHEST GROWTH RATE AND
9:30:55AM MOST INCREASING RATE OF GROWTH.
9:30:57AM EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK SOUTH TAMPA WANTS TO CLOSE THE
9:31:02AM DOORS AND SAY NO ONE CAN COME AND LIVE HERE, NO ONE CAN COME
9:31:05AM AND LIVE HERE AND JUST DIDN'T WANT ANY GROWTH ADDED.
9:31:07AM THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS HISTORY.
9:31:10AM FOR THOSE TEN YEARS, WE SAW MASSIVE, MASSIVE GROWTH RATE.
9:31:13AM IT WASN'T UNTIL WE HAD TEN YEARS OF A TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN
9:31:18AM OUR POPULATION THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE REALLY BECAME
9:31:23AM ALARMED AT WHAT THEY SAW HAPPENING.
9:31:25AM STEPHANIE POYNOR DID NOT APPEAR BEFORE CITY COUNCIL THE
9:31:27AM FIRST TIME UNTIL NOVEMBER OF 2019.
9:31:30AM I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF THIS.
9:31:35AM EVERYBODY WHO OWNS PROPERTY IN THE CITY HAS PROPERTY RIGHTS.
9:31:39AM THEY CAN GO TOMORROW AND PULL PERMITS TO BUILD WHAT IS
9:31:42AM ALLOWED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
9:31:43AM THE THING THAT PEOPLE OBJECT TO IS INCREASED ENTITLEMENTS,
9:31:47AM EXTRA ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE NOT SMART GROWTH.
9:31:50AM SOMETIMES THE EXTRA ENTITLEMENTS, THE INCREASE IS A GOOD
9:31:55AM IDEA.
9:31:55AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PERMITS ISSUED IN THE CITY
9:31:58AM VERSUS THE NUMBER OF REZONINGS, IT'S A TINY FRACTION.
9:32:01AM AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF REZONINGS AND YOU LOOK
9:32:04AM AT HOW MANY ARE DENIED, THAT IS ALSO LIKE 8 TO 10%.
9:32:09AM MOST PEOPLE GET WHAT THEY ASK FOR.
9:32:12AM BUT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, EVACUATION ZONE A IN
9:32:16AM SOUTH TAMPA, WE NEED TO LIMIT PEOPLE TO THE ENTITLEMENTS
9:32:18AM THEY ALREADY HAVE AND NOT GIVE THEM GREATER ENTITLEMENTS.
9:32:22AM PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHELTER IN PLACE.
9:32:27AM WE NEED TO BE BUILDING WHERE PEOPLE CAN SHELTER IN PLACE.
9:32:32AM IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.
9:32:33AM IT AFFECTS OUR INSURANCE RATES.
9:32:35AM IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING ABOUT OUR LIFE.
9:32:39AM I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT THIS WAS PUBLISHED A YEAR AGO AND
9:32:43AM WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING IT PRESENTED.
9:32:45AM I HOPE THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN FIND A WAY TO LET US KNOW
9:32:49AM WHEN THEY DO IMPORTANT WORK LIKE THIS SO THAT IT GETS
9:32:52AM PRESENTED.
9:32:53AM I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT BY ACCIDENT AND ALERTED COUNCILMAN
9:32:56AM CARLSON.
9:32:56AM HE IS THE ONE WHO ASKED IT BE PRESENTED, BUT IT'S A YEAR
9:32:59AM OLD.
9:32:59AM I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT PROCEDURE, IF SOMEONE COULD MAKE
9:33:02AM A MOTION ABOUT THAT, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
9:33:04AM MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO EVACUATE NEXT TIME BECAUSE OF WHAT
9:33:08AM THEY SAW THIS TIME.
9:33:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
9:33:10AM ALL RIGHT.
9:33:11AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER AND THE LAST SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM IS
9:33:14AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:33:22AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:33:23AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:33:24AM ONE DAY I DRAGGED A BIG, HUGE BAG IN HERE.
9:33:26AM I STILL GET HERE AND GO, "MAN, I WISH I HAD THAT.
9:33:30AM I WISH I HAD MY DESK."
9:33:31AM I WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS IS THE LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S
9:33:35AM BEEN DEVELOPED IN SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH -- ACTUALLY, THIS IS
9:33:42AM SOUTH OF GANDY SINCE THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
9:33:44AM ALL THE GREEN ONES RIGHT HERE, LIKE CARROLL ANN SAID, ABOUT
9:33:49AM 2700 UNITS.
9:33:50AM THAT'S WHEN I WOKE UP.
9:33:51AM THAT'S WHEN THEY WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING ACROSS THE STREET
9:33:54AM FROM ME.
9:33:55AM 27 UNITS -- 2700 UNITS IS A LOT.
9:33:58AM NOW WE'RE AT 7300.
9:34:01AM SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS OF THAT.
9:34:03AM YASSERT, HE DID A GREAT JOB PRESENTING.
9:34:11AM I WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT.
9:34:12AM HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT.
9:34:14AM I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE TERMS ARE BECAUSE THEY MAKE UP
9:34:16AM THIS PRETTY LANGUAGE FOR STUFF, BUT WE HAD THIS AREA OVER
9:34:18AM HERE THAT IS ALSO IN THE CHHA, BUT ALSO IN A CRA.
9:34:23AM SO IT HAS A DIFFERENT DESIGNATION BECAUSE THERE HE IS STILL
9:34:25AM DENSITY.
9:34:26AM BUT WHEN YOU LEAVE ANY OF THESE PLACES, YOU CAN GO WAY FAR
9:34:32AM AROUND.
9:34:33AM SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
9:34:34AM NOT A ONE-WAY ROUTE.
9:34:36AM NOT ONE WAY OUT.
9:34:38AM ONE OF THE NEW THINGS IN THE COMP PLAN, WE HAVE THE BIG
9:34:40AM TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
9:34:42AM WELL, WE ONLY HAVE ONE EVACUATION ROUTE OUT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
9:34:45AM ANYBODY WANT TO GUESS WHAT IT IS?
9:34:46AM DALE MABRY.
9:34:48AM IT'S THE ONLY ONE OF THOSE ROADS NOT ALREADY IN THE COASTAL
9:34:53AM HIGH HAZARD AREA.
9:34:54AM WE HAVE FOUR ROADS OUT BUT WESTSHORE CAN'T BE WIDENED
9:34:58AM BECAUSE WESTSHORE HAS A FUEL LINE IN IT THAT RUNS FROM PORT
9:35:01AM TAMPA ALL THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT.
9:35:04AM THIS SHOULD NOT BE A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR BY ANY STRETCH
9:35:08AM OF THE IMAGINATION.
9:35:09AM WE ARE OBLIGATED TO MacDILL FOR THAT.
9:35:12AM I WANT TO POINT OUT WHEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID THAT
9:35:17AM MacDILL EVACUATES BEFORE THE REST OF THE CITY DOES,
9:35:20AM THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN YOU LIVE ON A MILITARY INSTALLATION OR
9:35:24AM YOU ARE ON A MILITARY INSTALLATION, THEY ARE THE CADILLAC OF
9:35:28AM SAFETY.
9:35:29AM THEY ARE NOT DRIVING A CHEVROLET LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD.
9:35:34AM THEY HAVE DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS FOR SAFETY IN EVERY SINGLE
9:35:36AM AREA OF THAT BASE.
9:35:38AM HOW YOU EVACUATE, WHAT KIND OF SIRENS YOU HAVE, WHAT KIND OF
9:35:44AM -- JUST EVERYTHING.
9:35:46AM HOW FAST YOU CAN GO.
9:35:47AM IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN IT IS LIVING OFF A BASE.
9:35:50AM TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
9:35:53AM EVACUATIONS FOR MacDILL.
9:35:55AM THEY ALWAYS EVACUATE BEFORE THE CITY DOES.
9:35:57AM THEY ALWAYS CALL IT BEFORE THE CITY DOES, BECAUSE THEY
9:36:00AM ALWAYS WANT TO BE INCLINED TO BE THE SAFEST THEY CAN BE.
9:36:04AM AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THOSE FOLKS TO COME BACK AND HELP THE
9:36:06AM REST OF US IF WE NEED IT.
9:36:08AM TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
9:36:10AM THIS REPORT IS OLDER, LIKE CARROLL ANN SAID.
9:36:13AM THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUTS OUT SOME REALLY, REALLY GOOD
9:36:17AM REPORTS.
9:36:18AM EVERY TIME THEY COME OUT WITH ONE, IT SHOULD COME IN FRONT
9:36:22AM OF YOU GUYS.
9:36:22AM THE INDUSTRIAL AREA REPORT IS AMAZING.
9:36:24AM ONE OF MY FAVORITES.
9:36:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:36:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:36:27AM ALONG THE SAME THINGS THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, MS. POYNOR
9:36:31AM JUST SPOKE ABOUT, YOU HAVE TO LOOK BEYOND OUR CITY.
9:36:34AM 20, 30 YEARS AGO, YOU COULD TAKE ADAMO DRIVE AND ZOOM
9:36:39AM THROUGH BRANDON AND ONLY HAD A STOP SIGN.
9:36:42AM WHEN YOU GET TO BRANDON, BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE OTHER
9:36:46AM SIDE BECAUSE 30, 40 MINUTES BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS
9:36:49AM THEY HAVE.
9:36:51AM SOUTH, NOTHING IN RIVERVIEW, WIMAUMA WAS JUST A DOT.
9:36:54AM FORT HENRY WAS JUST A DOT.
9:36:57AM PALMETTO WAS JUST A DOT.
9:36:59AM THEY AIN'T DOTS NO MORE.
9:37:00AM WHEN YOU TAKE 70 OR 66 HEADING EAST, YOU CAN'T TRAVEL.
9:37:05AM IT'S JAM-PACKED.
9:37:06AM SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, YOU CAN ONLY GO IF YOU LIVE IN THE
9:37:10AM CITY OF TAMPA, THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE PEOPLE CAN ONLY GO
9:37:12AM TWO WAYS -- NORTH OR EAST.
9:37:14AM THE PROBLEM IS NORTH AND EAST IS NO LONGER JUST FARMLAND.
9:37:19AM LOOK AT ANY CITY, ZEPHYRHILLS, DADE CITY, NEW PORT RICHEY,
9:37:26AM ANYONE NORTH OF US AND YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE SAME
9:37:29AM PROBLEMS WE HAVE, GRIDLOCK.
9:37:30AM IF THEY HAVE GRIDLOCK, WE WILL NEVER GET OUT.
9:37:33AM LOOK AT PLANT CITY.
9:37:35AM LAKELAND IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN AMERICA
9:37:38AM RIGHT NOW.
9:37:39AM SO WE'RE SURROUNDED BY OUR FRIENDS WHO HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM
9:37:45AM WE HAVE.
9:37:45AM SO I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE MUCH BETTER CONVERSATION HERE.
9:37:50AM WE HAVE TO TALK TO ALL OF THE CITIES, SEE IF THE MAYORS OF
9:37:53AM THE CITY, THE COMMISSIONERS CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN,
9:37:55AM BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:37:58AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:37:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:38:00AM I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING AFTER THESE TWO HURRICANES, I THINK
9:38:05AM MANY OF US LEARNED A LOT.
9:38:08AM WE SAW SOME STORM SURGE, BUT WE DIDN'T SEE THE MAXIMUM THAT
9:38:11AM COULD HAVE HAPPENED, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET A DIRECT HIT.
9:38:14AM SO WE HAVE NEW DATA TO SEE HOW HOMES WERE DAMAGED AND HOW
9:38:17AM PEOPLE WERE AFFECTED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT SHOWED THAT WE
9:38:19AM WERE, ONE, NOT FULLY PREPARED.
9:38:22AM AND, SECOND, AS WE MAKE LAND USE DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD,
9:38:26AM YOU KNOW, IT'S NARROW ROADS THE FARTHER SOUTH YOU GO.
9:38:29AM ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
9:38:30AM DALE MABRY IS CONGESTED AT ALL TIMES EXCEPT EARLY SATURDAY
9:38:33AM MORNING, EARLY SUNDAY MORNING.
9:38:34AM BUT THE REST OF THE TIME, IT'S NOT EASY TO GET OUT OF TAMPA.
9:38:38AM I-4/275 INTERCHANGE IS ALWAYS BACKED UP.
9:38:42AM WHEN YOU SAY WE CAN ONLY GO NORTH AND CAN GO EAST, IT'S BAD
9:38:46AM ENOUGH WITHOUT A STORM.
9:38:47AM AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT WE
9:38:53AM APPROVE BECAUSE WE'RE AFFECTING A NATURAL HABITAT.
9:38:57AM FLORIDA, IN MY OPINION, WASN'T MEANT TO BE DEVELOPED AS IT
9:39:00AM HAS BEEN.
9:39:02AM WE'VE SEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH.
9:39:04AM WE'VE SEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH SINCE COVID WITH THE AMOUNT OF
9:39:07AM PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED HERE.
9:39:08AM HAVING SAID ALL THAT, THE MORE WE BUILD, THE WORST IT'S
9:39:12AM GOING TO BE.
9:39:12AM THE LESS PLACES THE WATER HAS TO GO.
9:39:17AM YOU CAN'T BEAT STORM SURGE.
9:39:18AM CAN'T BEAT HURRICANES.
9:39:20AM MADAM CHAIR IN THE END, DEPENDING ON THE INTENSITY, CAN
9:39:25AM ALWAYS WIN.
9:39:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:39:34AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:39:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP, SIR.
9:39:44AM >> UHURU, METESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:39:48AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
9:39:51AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
9:39:54AM FREEDOM.
9:39:54AM FREEDOM IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY.
9:39:56AM ON ITEM NUMBER 1, WHERE THEY ARE SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT THEY
9:40:01AM WANT TO DO IN PREPARATIONS FOR ATMOSPHERIC INCLEMENT WEATHER
9:40:11AM CONDITIONS AND THE ABILITY TO MANEUVER PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF
9:40:15AM THE CITY IN HARM'S WAY OR OUT OF HARM'S WAY, THERE IS A
9:40:21AM PHENOMENON GOING ON.
9:40:22AM THEY HAVE MOVED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AFRICAN PEOPLE OUT OF
9:40:27AM THE CITY.
9:40:28AM IT WASN'T ANY HURRICANE.
9:40:29AM IT WASN'T ANY STORM.
9:40:31AM IT WASN'T ANY EVACUATION, BUT BLACK PEOPLE ARE DISAPPEARING
9:40:34AM OUT OF THIS CITY.
9:40:35AM I WAS ON 22nd STREET LAST NIGHT AT 10:30 P.M. BETWEEN
9:40:44AM MARTIN LUTHER KING AND 21st AVENUE, DOWN ALMOST TO YBOR
9:40:50AM CITY, AND YOU COULD NOT FIND ONE SINGLE PERSON OUT AND
9:40:57AM ABOUT.
9:40:59AM NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON IN AN AREA THAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY
9:41:04AM KNOWN, ESPECIALLY 22nd JUST SOUTH OF LAKE BETWEEN 22nd
9:41:10AM --
9:41:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PUBLIC COMMENT IS INTENDED TO BE FOR A
9:41:14AM WORKSHOP IS INTENDED TO BE RELATED TO THE WORKSHOP ITEM.
9:41:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO ITEM NUMBER 1,
9:41:19AM SIR, WITH THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD?
9:41:21AM >> SIR, IT RELATES, NUMBER ONE, AS FAR AS THE
9:41:24AM MANEUVERABILITY OF PEOPLE, THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE AND THE
9:41:29AM CITY, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY WITH THE POPULATION.
9:41:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S NOT RELATED TO ITEM 1 ON THE
9:41:38AM AGENDA.
9:41:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:41:40AM GO AHEAD, YOU HAVE YOUR TIME, SIR.
9:41:42AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:41:43AM I WOULD THINK TAKING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION, ALSO NEEDS
9:41:55AM SOME SENSITIVITY, NEEDS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IT'S
9:41:59AM BLACK PEOPLE DISAPPEARING FROM THE CITY AS A DIRECT MEANS OF
9:42:08AM JUSTIFICATION.
9:42:10AM DIRECT MEANS OF BLACK PEOPLE BEING PUSHED OUT OF THE CITY.
9:42:14AM SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HIGH
9:42:19AM WATER IN STORMS AND WHATSOEVER IT MAY BE THAT'S GOING TO
9:42:23AM CAUSE THE REMOVING OF PEOPLE OR PREPARATIONS.
9:42:28AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE NEED, THIS CITY NEED TO TAKE THIS
9:42:32AM INTO CONSIDERATION BUT ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT
9:42:35AM THEY NEED A PLAN TO HAVE ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE
9:42:40AM SO WE CAN EVEN BE IN THE CITY TO BE PART OF THE
9:42:43AM CONVERSATION.
9:42:48AM AND PEOPLE LOVE TO INTERRUPT YOU WHEN YOU COME DOWN HERE.
9:42:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:42:51AM ALL RIGHT.
9:42:52AM THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
9:43:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUICK THINGS.
9:43:01AM WHAT HE SAID, WHAT IS RELEVANT IN THAT, IN PART, BECAUSE IN
9:43:08AM PORT TAMPA, THE ORIGINAL PORT WAS DOWN PARTLY WHERE THE
9:43:11AM YACHT CLUB IS AND PARTLY ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE
9:43:13AM PENINSULA BY MacDILL.
9:43:14AM AND IN WHAT'S NOW CALLED PORT TAMPA USED TO BE A SEPARATE
9:43:19AM CITY, THERE WAS HISTORIC AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT
9:43:24AM PRIMARILY LONGSHOREMEN WHO WERE WORKING IN THE ORIGINAL
9:43:27AM PORT.
9:43:27AM THOSE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS.
9:43:29AM ALTHOUGH THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF JUSTIFICATION AROUND THEM,
9:43:32AM MANY OF THOSE FAMILIES WERE STILL THERE.
9:43:34AM AND THE HOUSES HAVE PASSED ON FROM ONE GENERATION TO THE
9:43:37AM OTHER.
9:43:37AM BUT THE STORM CAME OVER AND FLOODED THEIR HOUSES, AND MANY
9:43:42AM OF THEM DID NOT HAVE INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE
9:43:44AM MORTGAGES.
9:43:45AM AND THEIR LIFE SAVINGS AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN KNOCKED OUT.
9:43:51AM PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS A BUNCH WILL HAVE TO SELL
9:43:53AM THEIR HOMES AND MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
9:43:55AM IT'S SAD BECAUSE IT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT HISTORIC COMMUNITY
9:43:57AM IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:43:58AM THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT THERE ARE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING --
9:44:03AM MULTIFAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS NEAR MacDILL.
9:44:06AM WHEN THE STORMS HIT A COUPLE OF TIMES, SOME OF THE OWNERS
9:44:11AM JUST PREEMPTIVELY SHUT DOWN THE ELECTRICITY AND WATER.
9:44:14AM I GOT CALLS FROM STEPHANIE AND OTHERS, RESIDENTS OF THE
9:44:17AM BUILDINGS SAYING WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO.
9:44:20AM MANY DON'T HAVE CARS.
9:44:21AM COULDN'T EASILY EVACUATE.
9:44:22AM THE TRANSIT SYSTEM DOESN'T USUALLY GET PEOPLE OUT.
9:44:25AM IT CREATES A HUGE HAZARD.
9:44:27AM WE WERE ABLE TO GET ELECTRICITY AND WATER TURNED ON.
9:44:30AM THEY LOOK AT IT AS HAZARDS BECAUSE IF THE BUILDING IS
9:44:33AM PARTIALLY KNOCKED DOWN, IT COULD CATCH ON FIRE.
9:44:36AM IT IS A HUGE ISSUE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
9:44:38AM RESPONSIBLE ON WHERE WE PUT DENSITY.
9:44:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
9:44:41AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
9:44:42AM PORT TAMPA AND PALMETTO BEACH AND OTHER HISTORIC COMMUNITIES
9:44:45AM IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA THAT WERE DEVASTATED WITH
9:44:52AM THESE LAST STORMS.
9:44:54AM MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILIES IN PORT TAMPA, FOR EXAMPLE,
9:44:56AM DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE.
9:44:57AM THOSE HOMES HAVE BEEN IN THE FAMILY GENERATIONS.
9:45:01AM WHERE DO THEY GO?
9:45:02AM WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM?
9:45:03AM I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
9:45:06AM ALL RIGHT.
9:45:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:08AM ITEM NUMBER 2, WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
9:45:12AM WE'LL PRESENT REGARDING JULIAN B. LANE RIVER CENTER'S
9:45:15AM CATERING CONTRACT.
9:45:16AM THIS WAS A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:45:19AM DO YOU WANT THEM TO PRESENT FIRST?
9:45:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
9:45:23AM WE'LL HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY FIRST.
9:45:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE MRS. OCEA WYNN.
9:45:27AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
9:45:29AM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
9:45:35AM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
9:45:35AM WE'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE TRANSPARENCY OR THE CHANGES THAT
9:45:39AM WE'VE MADE IN THE JBL CATERING PROCESS AND CONTRACT.
9:45:47AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THERE
9:45:51AM WERE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE COULD USE TO IMPROVE OUR
9:45:55AM CURRENT BUSINESS STRUCTURE, AND WE DID JUST THAT.
9:45:59AM WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CURRENT OR THE
9:46:05AM PREVIOUS PROCESS WAS AND THE NEW LEAD CHANGES THAT WE MADE
9:46:08AM TO BE MORE OPEN TO EVERYONE USING THE CATERING FOR THE
9:46:20AM CENTER.
9:46:20AM SO THE REQUIREMENTS THROUGH THE RFQ, RFP, THIS IS THE OLD
9:46:26AM PROCESS, SAYS THAT THE RFP/RFQ ISSUED THROUGH PURCHASING
9:46:33AM WITH A PANEL THAT REVIEWED AND MADE SELECTIONS THAT ALL THE
9:46:36AM VENDORS HAD TO MEET A MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS THAT WERE
9:46:40AM APPROVED.
9:46:40AM WE CHANGED THAT TO SAY THAT ANY VENDOR, REGARDLESS OF
9:46:44AM WHETHER THEY WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THE RFQ PROCESS, ANY
9:46:48AM VENDOR WHO MEETS THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS GOES THROUGH THE
9:46:53AM PROCESS AND MAY PROVIDE SERVICES AT THE CENTER.
9:46:58AM SO WE TOOK AWAY THE LIST OF APPROVED VENDORS AND NOW IT'S
9:47:03AM OPEN TO ANY VENDORS.
9:47:07AM REGARDLESS IF IT WAS THE OLD PROCESS OR NEW PROCESS, ALL THE
9:47:11AM VENDORS MUST HAVE PROPER LICENSING AND CERTIFICATIONS.
9:47:16AM THE RFQ/RFP PROCESS STATED THAT THE CATERERS HAD TO HAVE A
9:47:27AM MINIMUM OF 12 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
9:47:31AM THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED.
9:47:34AM THERE'S NO MINIMUM YEARS OF EXPERIENCE -- NO MINIMUM YEARS
9:47:44AM OF EXPERIENCE.
9:47:45AM I WANT TO SAY THAT YOU MUST HAVE THE LICENSING.
9:47:47AM I JUST CAN'T GO IN MY KITCHEN AND SAY I'M GOING TO CATER FOR
9:47:51AM 150 PEOPLE IF I DON'T HAVE A LICENSE TO GO AND DO IT.
9:47:54AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR.
9:47:56AM THAT LEADS UP TO MY NEXT POINT WHERE THE INSURANCE
9:48:01AM REQUIREMENTS ARE STILL THE SAME AND THE CITY'S RISK
9:48:03AM GUIDELINES AND ALL OF THAT.
9:48:07AM ALCOHOL MAY BE SERVED, THIS IS FROM THE PREVIOUS AND NOW,
9:48:11AM ALCOHOL MAY BE SERVED BY CATERERS WITH LIQUOR LICENSES AND
9:48:17AM CONFIRMED -- THIS IS CONFIRMED -- WE ALIGN WITH THIS, BUT
9:48:23AM THIS IS THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND
9:48:27AM PROFESSIONAL REGULATIONS.
9:48:30AM THE PREVIOUS PROCESS, PART OF THE CONSIDERATION OF THE
9:48:34AM PROPOSALS WAS THAT A FIRM HAD TO HAVE AN ONLINE PRESENCE AND
9:48:40AM PROVIDE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT THROUGH GIVING BACK SERVICES OR
9:48:44AM SIMILAR.
9:48:45AM THAT REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN REMOVED.
9:48:47AM PREVIOUSLY, EMPLOYEES MUST BE UNIFORMED, NAMED AND TAGGED.
9:48:56AM THE CURRENT PROVIDER PROCESS IS THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT
9:49:02AM EMPLOYEES FROM THE CATERERS MUST BE CLEARLY IDENTIFIABLE.
9:49:06AM AND THIS IS MORE FOR A SAFETY ISSUE.
9:49:09AM SO A BADGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO WE'LL KNOW IF THEY
9:49:14AM SHOULD BE IN THE SPACE OR THE FACILITY WORKING AROUND THE
9:49:18AM FOOD OR NOT.
9:49:18AM ADDITIONALLY, AS WE DO WITH ALL OF OUR CENTERS, IF THERE IS
9:49:24AM A YOUTH COMPONENT WHERE SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE WORKING
9:49:27AM AROUND KIDS, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT FOR THE BACKGROUND
9:49:34AM TO SAY THEY ARE ALLOWED TO WORK ON CITY PROPERTY, IN A PARKS
9:49:39AM FACILITY AROUND KIDS.
9:49:40AM PREVIOUSLY, VENDORS MUST PROVIDE A PERFORMANCE, A DEPOSIT TO
9:49:50AM COVER ANY DAMAGES OR COMMISSIONS.
9:49:52AM WE CHANGED THAT THE DEPOSIT REMAINS BUT MAY BE REFUNDED AT
9:49:59AM THE CONCLUSION OF THE EVENT.
9:50:01AM SO THE DEPOSIT IS NEEDED, STILL REQUIRED, BUT THE DIFFERENCE
9:50:04AM IS, IF YOU PAY IT UP FRONT OR IF YOU PAY IT AFTER THE EVENT
9:50:12AM IS OVER.
9:50:13AM THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE VENDORS
9:50:24AM MUST PROVIDE A COMMISSION OF 15% OF REVENUE FROM THEIR
9:50:31AM SALES.
9:50:31AM THIS IS HOW IT WAS PREVIOUSLY.
9:50:34AM THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SIMILAR VENDORS AND ALIGNS WITH
9:50:39AM THE CITY'S REVENUE MODELS FOR COMMERCIAL SERVICES AND PARK
9:50:44AM PROPERTIES.
9:50:45AM NOW THAT 15% COMMISSION HAS BEEN WAIVED FOR NEIGHBORHOODS
9:50:50AM AND COMMUNITY GROUPS.
9:50:52AM SO THAT IS STILL REQUIRED, BUT IF YOU ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD
9:50:55AM GROUP OR A COMMUNITY GROUP, THAT'S NO LONGER REQUIRED.
9:50:59AM OTHER ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE ARE THE USER DEPOSIT
9:51:08AM POLICY STATES THAT A 25% -- LET ME BACK UP.
9:51:13AM REFUNDED 25% IF THE EVENT IS CANCELED.
9:51:20AM THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WEDDING VENUES AND ALL THAT.
9:51:24AM WE UPDATED OUR POLICY TO SAY THAT YOU ARE REFUNDED 75% IF
9:51:33AM IT'S CANCELED AND REBOOKED, IF THE VENUE IS REBOOKED.
9:51:36AM PREVIOUSLY, SAMPLING EVENTS WITH MULTIPLE VENDORS REQUIRE A
9:51:42AM LEAD VENDOR WITH THE APPROVED LIST OF VENDORS.
9:51:49AM WE'VE CHANGED THE NEW PROCESS TO SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY
9:51:56AM -- UNLESS PREVIOUSLY SAID AND A LEAD VENDOR WOULD ONLY BE
9:52:00AM REQUIRED IF THERE IS SOME TYPE OF A PERFORMANCE OR SOMETHING
9:52:05AM THAT'S GOING ON IN THE FACILITY TO MINIMIZE THE RISK OR WHAT
9:52:12AM HAVE YOU SO WE CAN HOLD ONE PERSON ACCOUNTABLE.
9:52:15AM SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, WE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO
9:52:22AM THE WEBSITE FOR BETTER CLARITY ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THE
9:52:28AM CENTER.
9:52:28AM WE ARE EXPANDING THAT AND IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT A
9:52:32AM SOFTWARE PACKAGE WHERE WE CAN DO IT.
9:52:35AM WE CURRENTLY STILL HAVE STAFF WORKING WITH THAT, WITH THE
9:52:41AM REGISTRATION OR THE AVAILABILITY TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO
9:52:43AM DOUBLE BOOKING ON A CERTAIN WEEKEND.
9:52:45AM BUT UNTIL WE GET THERE, GET TO THAT LEVEL OF SOFTWARE OR THE
9:52:50AM SORT, THEN WE'LL CONTINUE THIS PROCESS.
9:52:53AM ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WE MADE IS THAT WE WILL ALLOW FOOD TO BE
9:53:02AM BROUGHT IN FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT THERE IS A CAP ON THAT.
9:53:06AM SO IF I WANT TO BRING IN COFFEE AND DOUGHNUTS OR PUBLIX
9:53:10AM TRAYS, THAT'S FINE.
9:53:12AM AGAIN, I CAN'T BRING IN A WHOLE -- MY FAVORITE GUMBO AND
9:53:17AM SAY, HEY, LOOK, I WANT EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, TO COME AND
9:53:20AM PARTAKE OF THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE A CAP ON THAT.
9:53:23AM AND OUR STAFF WILL WORK WITH WHAT THAT CAP IS FOR THE AMOUNT
9:53:29AM OF FOOD WE CAN BRING IN.
9:53:32AM OUR STAFFING STRUCTURE, WHAT WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY, A
9:53:38AM CHANGE THAT WE'RE MAKING IN HOPES THAT THIS IS MORE OF A
9:53:41AM SEAMLESS PROCESS IS THAT WE ARE IDENTIFYING A POSITION THAT
9:53:47AM THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT THEY WOULD DO.
9:53:50AM THEY WORK WITH THE SALES.
9:53:51AM THEY WORK WITH THE VENDING SO THAT WE'LL HAVE ONE PERSON TO
9:53:55AM GO THROUGH FOR MORE EASE OF USE.
9:54:00AM THIS NEW PROCESS HAS BEEN IN PROCESS SINCE APRIL 3rd.
9:54:07AM SINCE APRIL 3rd.
9:54:09AM I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WEBSITE NOT
9:54:11AM BEING UPDATED, ABOUT PEOPLE NOT KNOWING THE PROCESS.
9:54:17AM AS THE ADMINISTRATOR AND LEADER OF MY PORTFOLIO, I TAKE
9:54:22AM RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT, BUT WHAT THAT HAS SHOWN IS THAT WE
9:54:26AM HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE IN OUR COMMUNICATION
9:54:30AM INTERNALLY AS WELL AS EXTERNALLY.
9:54:33AM SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
9:54:37AM HAVE ABOUT THE CENTER, ABOUT THE PROCESS OR ANYTHING ELSE
9:54:42AM THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO MY ATTENTION.
9:54:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU MADE THIS
9:54:46AM ORIGINAL MOTION.
9:54:47AM THEN I'LL GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:54:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
9:54:50AM THANK YOU, MS. WYNN.
9:54:51AM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING BEFORE US TODAY.
9:54:53AM FULL TRANSPARENCY, I FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, I WROTE THE
9:54:59AM MAYOR A LONG, LONG, LONG MEMO ABOUT JULIAN B. LANE RIVER
9:55:05AM CENTER.
9:55:05AM I APPRECIATE YOU ADDRESSING SOME THINGS THAT ARE NEW TO ME
9:55:09AM THAT I'M HEARING FOR THE FIRST TIME, ESPECIALLY REGARDING
9:55:15AM THE FACT THAT THE WEBSITE HAS BEEN OVERHAULED.
9:55:18AM ON APRIL 1st, THAT WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO ANYONE.
9:55:21AM IT WAS THE OLD INFORMATION AND THE OLD INFORMATION WAS BEING
9:55:24AM SHARED BY YOUR STAFF EVEN AFTER APRIL 3rd.
9:55:27AM FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, THE REASON WHY THIS IS COMING TO
9:55:33AM LIGHT IS BECAUSE BLACK CATERERS AFTER APRIL 1st WERE STILL
9:55:38AM BEING CHALLENGED BY THE STAFF OF JULIAN B. LANE REGARDING
9:55:43AM THEIR EFFORTS TO BE A PART OF THIS SPACE, WHICH WAS THE
9:55:46AM INITIAL ISSUE FOR ME ON MY CAMPAIGN THAT I TALKED ABOUT THE
9:55:49AM VERY FIRST DAY THAT I CAMPAIGNED FOR THIS JOB THAT I AM NOW
9:55:53AM HOLDING.
9:55:54AM IN LIGHT OF THAT, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR A LOT OF THE
9:56:03AM THINGS YOU SAID BECAUSE THE RFQ PROCESS HAS GONE AWAY.
9:56:07AM THE LICENSE AND CERTIFICATION PROCESS, ABSOLUTELY, EVERYONE
9:56:10AM SHOULD BE THERE.
9:56:11AM THERE'S NO MINIMUM 12 YEARS EXPERIENCE.
9:56:13AM I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
9:56:14AM THE ALCOHOL REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN REMOVED.
9:56:16AM UNIFORMS, THE THINGS YOU ADDRESSED REALLY WERE NOT MY
9:56:19AM PRIMARY ISSUES.
9:56:23AM THE 15% IS ONE OF THEM THAT YOU DID MENTION.
9:56:26AM THE 15% THAT YOU CHARGE THE CATERERS REALLY IS SOMETHING
9:56:32AM THAT THEY PUSH BACK OVER TO THE PERSON THAT THEY ARE RENTING
9:56:37AM FROM AND IT IS NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE YOU DON'T DO IT IN
9:56:39AM OTHER RENTAL SPACES AND GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
9:56:42AM I CAN'T JUSTIFY CHARGING THAT 15%, WHICH I BROUGHT UP TO
9:56:47AM YOUR STAFF WHEN I MET WITH THEM ON THIS VERY ISSUE.
9:56:50AM IT WAS ON THEIR LIST.
9:56:52AM I WILL STILL FIGHT FOR THAT.
9:56:54AM CAN'T JUSTIFY AT JULIAN B. LANE AND THEN NOT DO IT AT
9:56:57AM SEMINOLE GARDEN.
9:56:58AM IT IS A LOT EASIER, THESE CATERERS ARE SAYING TO ME, WHY
9:57:02AM CAN'T THE SITUATION AT SEMINOLE GARDENS BE THE SAME AS IT IS
9:57:06AM AT JULIAN B. LANE, THE CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE BOARD.
9:57:10AM SO EASY.
9:57:11AM NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER WITH SEMINOLE GARDEN BUT CATCH HELL AT
9:57:14AM JULIAN B. LANE.
9:57:15AM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
9:57:16AM THAT 15% IS GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND AND YOU'RE NOT
9:57:20AM JUSTIFYING IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S JULIAN B. LANE.
9:57:23AM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE UNLESS IT IS GOING TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD
9:57:26AM FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
9:57:27AM THE REFUNDING, THERE IS ONE CATERER WHO HAD NO IDEA SHE HAD
9:57:36AM THE CREDIT, NOW THAT YOU ALL ARE GIVING THESE REFUNDS OR
9:57:41AM PUTTING IT OVER TO ANOTHER EVENT.
9:57:44AM ONE OF THE THINGS I EXPRESSED TO YOUR STAFF IN THE
9:57:48AM REORGANIZATION OF THIS IS THAT I SAID THE PERSON WAS NOT
9:57:55AM SATISFIED BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T HAVE WHAT THEY WANTED IN
9:57:58AM TERMS OF CATERING.
9:58:00AM THEY COULDN'T HAVE WHAT THEY WANTED.
9:58:01AM SO THEY SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
9:58:03AM THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY.
9:58:04AM YOU STILL HAVE THEIR DEPOSIT.
9:58:08AM I SAID TO YOUR STAFF, I SAID YOU SHOULD GIVE THEM BACK THEIR
9:58:11AM MONEY BECAUSE OUR CITY STAFF BROKE THE RULES WHEN THEY
9:58:17AM ALLOWED -- THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT WHAT I'LL SAY NEXT -- WHEN
9:58:20AM YOU ALL ALLOWED THE BRUNCH EVENT BY CREATIVE LOAFING, AND
9:58:26AM THEY HAD 15 RESTAURANTS IN THAT FACILITY THAT WERE NOT ON
9:58:30AM THE RFP/RFQ FOR THE CATERER THAT THEY ALLEGEDLY WORKED
9:58:35AM UNDER, YOU ALL BROKE THE RULES, SO WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT THE
9:58:39AM CITIZENS TO HAVE RULES THAT YOU WON'T EVEN FOLLOW YOURSELF
9:58:42AM UNDER YOUR OWN RFQ.
9:58:44AM GIVE BACK EVERYBODY WHO HAS MONEY SITTING IN A CREDIT, GIVE
9:58:47AM THEM BACK THEIR MONEY.
9:58:48AM LET'S START FROM SCRATCH.
9:58:50AM THERE IS NO CREDIT.
9:58:51AM GIVE THEM THEIR REFUNDS.
9:58:53AM THEY DESERVE THAT MONEY BECAUSE THE CITY BROKE THEIR OWN
9:58:55AM RULES UNDER THEIR RFQ.
9:58:58AM YOU SHOULD NOT EXPECT OUR CITIZENS TO DO THE SAME THING.
9:59:01AM THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING I WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR
9:59:03AM AND I NEEDED TO SAY IT PUBLICLY.
9:59:05AM THE OTHER ONES, WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IS ALSO THE PROCESS
9:59:15AM OF TRANSPARENCY WHEN IT COMES TO SCHEDULING.
9:59:19AM I COULD COMFORTABLY SAY THIS, I DON'T TRUST THE STAFF THAT
9:59:23AM CURRENTLY WORKS AT JULIAN B. LANE.
9:59:25AM I THINK THAT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU SAID
9:59:29AM WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON A SCHEDULING, YOU KNOW,
9:59:35AM PROGRAM, IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T WANT TO CALL JULIAN B. LANE
9:59:40AM AND HAVE TO FIND OUT FROM AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A CONFLICT
9:59:43AM OF INTEREST IF THE FACILITY IS AVAILABLE.
9:59:47AM I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO ONLINE AND PUNCH IT IN.
9:59:53AM AND IF IT'S AVAILABLE, IT'S BECAUSE THE SYSTEM TOLD ME SO.
9:59:56AM AND EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.
9:59:59AM THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE IN THE NEW BUDGET
10:00:03AM SEASON.
10:00:03AM THAT REQUEST SHOULD BE MADE THROUGH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OR
10:00:05AM WHATEVER IT WILL TAKE.
10:00:06AM I CAN ACTUALLY SUGGEST ONE TO YOU.
10:00:09AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS USES I THINK FACILITRON.
10:00:14AM YOU GO, IN FILL IT OUT.
10:00:19AM EVERYTHING HAS TO BE DONE THROUGH THAT, THE SCHEDULING.
10:00:21AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE BLACKOUT DATES.
10:00:25AM I DISCOVERED FROM THE DAIS LAST YEAR, THERE IS A SPECIAL
10:00:30AM REQUEST, HOW DO YOU USE THIS FACILITY, AS A STAFF MEMBER --
10:00:35AM OH, YOU MAKE A REQUEST.
10:00:36AM I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT.
10:00:38AM I ACTUALLY MADE A REQUEST TO HAVE AN EVENT ON JUNE 3rd FOR
10:00:44AM HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS GRADUATING JUST TO SEE HOW IT EVEN
10:00:47AM WORKS.
10:00:47AM THAT WAS MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
10:00:49AM I THINK YOU HAD TO SIGN OFF ON IT.
10:00:51AM I THINK IT CAME ACROSS YOUR DESK.
10:00:54AM DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT?
10:00:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS ACCIDENTALLY SENT TO ME.
10:01:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK THE MAYOR APPROVES IT BUT YOU GOT
10:01:04AM A COPY OF IT.
10:01:05AM SEE HOW UNCLEAR THAT IS.
10:01:07AM HE GOT IT BY MISTAKE, BUT I THINK THE MAYOR HAD TO SIGN OFF
10:01:10AM ON IT.
10:01:10AM EVEN WHEN WE GET TO USE THIS FACILITY, IT SHOULD JUST BE
10:01:16AM KNOWN AND WHAT THAT PROCESS IS.
10:01:19AM I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO
10:01:21AM ASK A QUESTION.
10:01:22AM I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DIG REGARDING JULIAN B. LANE
10:01:27AM ANYMORE.
10:01:29AM EVERYTHING SHOULD BE OUT IN THE OPEN ESPECIALLY FOR THE
10:01:32AM CATERERS WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS -- YEARS TO BE ABLE
10:01:35AM TO UTILIZE THE FACILITY IN A PLACE FORMERLY CONSTRUCTED ON
10:01:42AM WHAT WAS A BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:01:43AM DON'T MAKE ME GIVE YOU ALL THE HISTORY.
10:01:49AM A SPACE THEY COULDN'T OCCUPY AS CATERERS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
10:01:54AM FALL UNDER THE RFQ THAT WAS RENEWED UNDER THE PANDEMIC WITH
10:01:58AM THE SAME SIX OR SEVEN CATERERS WHO GOT IT BEFORE WHEN THEY
10:02:03AM DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS AVAILABLE TO BID ON.
10:02:05AM IT WAS JUST CRAZY.
10:02:06AM I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE OPEN WITH THE VENDOR PROCESS.
10:02:09AM THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
10:02:12AM SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I MENTIONED -- YOU KNOW WHAT,
10:02:16AM IS MY FIVE MINUTES UP?
10:02:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:02:18AM WE'LL HAVE A SECOND ROUND.
10:02:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOBODY ELSE HAS ON THE LIGHT, I CAN TAKE
10:02:23AM YOUR FIVE MINUTES IF YOU DON'T WANT IT.
10:02:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:02:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:02:29AM I HAVE A LITTLE EXPERIENCE, NOT IN CATERING BUT THE
10:02:32AM RESTAURANT BUSINESS.
10:02:33AM STARTED WHEN I WAS 14.
10:02:35AM WORKED UP IN NEW YORK, ONE OF THE FINEST HOTELS IN AMERICA
10:02:39AM FOR SIX SUMMERS AND I WAS A MANAGING PARTNER SOMEWHERE FOR
10:02:44AM TEN YEARS.
10:02:45AM ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WANTED TO GO INTO THE CATERING BUSINESS,
10:02:49AM BUT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC ASKED US TO BE IN.
10:02:52AM AFTER TWO CATERINGS, I SAID LET SOMEBODY ELSE DO IT.
10:02:57AM TELL YOU WHY.
10:02:58AM ACCESS A GROUP OF PEOPLE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ACCESS TO BECAUSE
10:03:01AM SERVING ABOUT 1500 DINNERS AND 1500 LUNCHES A WEEK, IT WORE
10:03:05AM OUT THE CREW.
10:03:06AM THEN I HAD TO HIRE PEOPLE TO GO DO THE CATERING WHICH WERE
10:03:10AM NOT ACCUSTOMED TO OUR SYSTEM OF RESTAURANT.
10:03:19AM THEN THE LIQUOR LICENSE.
10:03:21AM TAKING A CHANCE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE.
10:03:24AM THEN YOU HAVE TO SET IT UP WHEN YOU GET THERE, BREAK IT DOWN
10:03:28AM AFTER.
10:03:28AM NOT MENTIONED.
10:03:29AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A SYSTEM YOU HAVE NOW.
10:03:31AM YOU HAVE TO SET IT UP AND BREAK IT DOWN.
10:03:33AM WHEN YOU START GIVING AWAY COFFEE AND ORANGE JUICE, THAT'S
10:03:36AM YOUR TWO MOST PROFITABLE ITEMS YOU CAN SELL.
10:03:40AM NOT THE MEAL.
10:03:40AM IT IS THE DESSERT, THE LIQUOR, AND THE -- THE MEAL HAS A SET
10:03:46AM PRICE OF ABOUT 42% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
10:03:49AM DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE SERVING.
10:03:50AM CAN GO FROM 20% TO 60%.
10:03:53AM NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE 60% BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE NOTHING
10:03:56AM OTHER THAN YOU LOST YOUR TIME.
10:03:58AM WHAT I'M SAYING HERE IS THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIQUOR
10:04:00AM LICENSE, THAT'S NICE, BUT WHAT ABOUT IF I GO IN AND DON'T
10:04:05AM HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE AND USE VIERA'S NAME BECAUSE I LIKE
10:04:10AM HIM.
10:04:11AM HE HAS A LIQUOR LICENSE.
10:04:12AM CAN I SUBLET TO VIERA?
10:04:13AM I'M TALKING MY OWN TERMS.
10:04:17AM THEREFORE WHEN I SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON, I BACKED OUT AND DID
10:04:20AM TWO CATERING JOBS AND I QUIT BECAUSE I COULDN'T HANDLE IT.
10:04:25AM IT'S NOT AS EASY AS WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT.
10:04:27AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON CALL AND DIFFERENT DAYS,
10:04:31AM DIFFERENT HOURS.
10:04:32AM IT'S NOT EASY TO DO.
10:04:33AM AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME STABILITY IN DOING WHAT YOU'RE
10:04:38AM DOING TO GET THE JOB DONE.
10:04:39AM I'M NOT LOOKING AT RACE.
10:04:41AM I'M NOT LOOKING AT COLOR.
10:04:42AM I'M NOT LOOKING AT HEIGHT.
10:04:44AM NOT LOOKING AT WEIGHT.
10:04:45AM I'M LOOKING AT WHAT I KNOW THAT I HAD TO DO AND I GOT OUT
10:04:48AM BECAUSE I SAID I'M NOT EQUIPPED FOR THESE.
10:04:51AM THESE CATERERS HAVE A GROUP OF NAMES TO CALL ON A MOMENT'S
10:04:59AM NOTICE TO GET THE JOB DONE.
10:05:01AM WHETHER BIG, SMALL, DIFFERENT.
10:05:04AM THAT'S HOW CATERING GOES.
10:05:06AM I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW ABOUT CATERING THAT I GOT
10:05:09AM OUT BECAUSE -- I HAD THE FOOD.
10:05:12AM I HAD THE QUALITY.
10:05:12AM I HAD THE SERVERS, BUT ONLY FOR THE RESTAURANT.
10:05:15AM I DID NOT WANT TO LOSE THE CUSTOMERS I HAD IN THE RESTAURANT
10:05:22AM BY DOING CATERING.
10:05:24AM MY COOKS WORK TIME AND A HALF TO GET THE CATERING JOB DONE
10:05:27AM THE RIGHT WAY.
10:05:28AM I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ANY CATERING OPERATION FOR OR AGAINST.
10:05:32AM I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT AS EASY AS THE PUBLIC THINKS IT IS.
10:05:35AM IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
10:05:37AM THAT'S WHY THE CONVENTION CENTER THEY HAVE AN OPEN BID.
10:05:43AM I'M NOT COMPARING THIS TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, NOT AT ALL.
10:05:46AM FOR THE RECORD, MY GRANDDAUGHTER -- ONE OF MY GRANDDAUGHTERS
10:05:49AM GOT THE RECEPTION OVER THERE.
10:05:51AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BILL WAS.
10:05:52AM GLAD I DIDN'T SEE IT BECAUSE I GUARANTEE I COULDN'T AFFORD
10:05:55AM IT.
10:05:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:05:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR
10:06:02AM HER LEAD ON THIS.
10:06:03AM I'M WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR MORE TIME IF SHE NEEDS IT.
10:06:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER
10:06:10AM HENDERSON IN THE SECOND ROUND, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER
10:06:13AM MICROPHONES ON, WHEN MY WIFE AND I GOT MARRIED JUST OVER
10:06:16AM THREE YEARS AGO, WE WERE LOOKING AT PLACES TO GET MARRIED.
10:06:19AM THE RIVER CENTER WAS ONE OF THE SPOTS, BUT AS MUCH AS I LOVE
10:06:23AM IT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL, IT'S SO EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A
10:06:27AM $3,000 RENTAL FEE.
10:06:30AM BEYOND THAT, WE JUST COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
10:06:33AM BECAUSE THEN IT'S CATERING AND THE FOOD.
10:06:37AM WE ENDED UP GETTING MARRIED RIGHT HERE IN CHARLIE MIRANDA
10:06:40AM PLAZA, AS IT'S OFFICIALLY NAMED.
10:06:43AM WASN'T THAT AT THE TIME.
10:06:44AM COULDN'T RENT THAT.
10:06:45AM IT WAS A PUBLIC SPACE.
10:06:46AM WE HAD TO SHOW UP LIKE ANYBODY.
10:06:48AM IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THERE AND GET MARRIED, YOU GO AND GET
10:06:52AM MARRIED.
10:06:52AM WE COULDN'T EVEN GET THE FOUNTAINS TURNED OFF.
10:06:54AM I HAD MAYOR DICK GRECO OFFICIATE.
10:06:58AM WE COULDN'T HEAR HIM DO THE CEREMONY.
10:07:00AM ANYWAYS IT TURNED OUT VERY NICE.
10:07:01AM THE POINT I'M MAKING, IT WAS SO COMPLICATED TO GET INTO
10:07:04AM JULIAN LANE EVEN FOR 30 MINUTES JUST TO HAVE OUR VOWS AND
10:07:09AM EVERYTHING DONE THAT WE CHOSE HERE.
10:07:11AM WE WANTED SOMETHING TAMPA.
10:07:12AM I FIGURED SINCE I LOVE WORKING HERE SO MUCH, I FIGURED WHY
10:07:17AM NOT GET MARRIED HERE.
10:07:20AM AND I PROPOSED HERE TOO.
10:07:22AM AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS AS ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE
10:07:24AM TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:07:26AM YOU HAD MENTIONED IF IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP OR COMMUNITY
10:07:28AM GROUP THAT WANTS TO USE IT, I KNOW YESTERDAY THERE WAS AN
10:07:31AM EVENT WITH A GENTLEMAN THAT MANY OF US KNOW.
10:07:37AM I JUST DON'T WANT BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL THAT IT'S SO
10:07:42AM BURDENSOME, THE PROCESS TO HAVE A CATERER, HAVE AN EVENT,
10:07:46AM THAT WE KEEP PEOPLE AWAY BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLICLY FUNDED
10:07:50AM FACILITY.
10:07:50AM I REMEMBER WHEN WE VOTED ON THAT.
10:07:52AM IT WAS VERY EXPENSIVE.
10:07:54AM I THINK THAT PROPERTY ITSELF WAS $12 MILLION AS PART OF THE
10:07:57AM $36 MILLION PARK COST.
10:08:00AM BEING THAT IT IS A PUBLIC SPACE, I WANT IT TO BE AS
10:08:03AM ACCESSIBLE AND AS EASY TO NAVIGATE AND MANAGE AS POSSIBLE.
10:08:06AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, SHE BROUGHT UP A LOT OF GREAT
10:08:08AM POINTS.
10:08:11AM SHE DID A TEST RUN WITH HAVING AN EVENT IN JUNE TO SEE HOW
10:08:17AM THE PROCESS WAS.
10:08:18AM AGAIN, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
10:08:19AM IT'S IN THE HEART OF OUR CITY.
10:08:22AM EVEN THE HISTORY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:08:23AM WHAT USED TO BE THERE AND EVERYTHING.
10:08:26AM WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE.
10:08:27AM MENTIONED EARLIER IN PUBLIC COMMENT, PEOPLE GET PUSHED OUT.
10:08:29AM WE WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL WELCOME.
10:08:31AM I'LL STOP THERE.
10:08:33AM I SEE NO OTHER LIGHTS EXCEPT -- COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON,
10:08:36AM SECOND ROUND.
10:08:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE TRUST PROCESS, LAST THURSDAY WHEN WE
10:08:41AM WERE IN COUNCIL MEETING, THE PERSON THAT UTILIZED THE
10:08:43AM FACILITY THIS WEEK, THEY GOT A CALL FROM THE STAFF AT JBL
10:08:47AM ASKING THEM TO PICK ONE OF THE OLD CATERERS.
10:08:51AM THAT'S HOW EGREGIOUS THIS STAFF IS.
10:08:54AM THAT'S WHY I WANT TO CLARIFY WHEN I SAY I DON'T TRUST THEM.
10:08:57AM I JUST THINK YOU ALL SHOULD DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING OVER THERE.
10:09:01AM BUT THAT IS UP TO YOU ALL.
10:09:02AM OKAY.
10:09:03AM THE COMMUNITY PART, ONE OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP WHEN I
10:09:07AM WAS GOING OVER THIS IS THAT -- AND I WANT TO THANK ED
10:09:12AM LORRAINE FOR POINTING THIS OUT TO ME.
10:09:14AM WHEN JULIAN B. LANE WAS BUILT, THEY TOLD THE COMMUNITY, YES,
10:09:18AM YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE FACILITY.
10:09:20AM THAT'S NOT CLEAR.
10:09:21AM WE NEED BLACKOUT DATES FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:09:23AM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE WEEKENDS.
10:09:25AM I THINK THE WEEKENDS ARE FAIR FOR CATERING EVENTS AND THINGS
10:09:28AM LIKE THAT, FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT,
10:09:31AM ABSOLUTELY, BUT WHEN CAN THEY USE IT?
10:09:34AM THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE DATES AVAILABLE TO THEM THAT
10:09:37AM THEY KNOW ABOUT IN ADVANCE FOR PROPER PLANNING WHICH IS
10:09:40AM IMPORTANT.
10:09:41AM I WANT TO ADDRESS THE LIQUOR PART.
10:09:43AM EVERY EVENT THAT I WENT TO AT JULIAN B. LANE DID NOT SERVE
10:09:46AM LIQUOR.
10:09:47AM THAT WAS ONE OF MY ISSUES.
10:09:49AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE TO CATER AT JBL.
10:09:53AM EVERY EVENT UNTIL THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AND UNTIL
10:09:56AM THE NCAA EVENT, THOSE WERE THE TWO THAT SERVE LIQUOR.
10:10:00AM WHEN WE GAVE THE KIDS SCHOLARSHIPS, THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK
10:10:03AM HISTORY COMMITTEE, NO LIQUOR SERVED.
10:10:05AM BUT YET IT COST -- IT COST THAT COMMITTEE, A CITY EMPLOYEE
10:10:11AM COMMITTEE OVER $7,000 TO CATER WHEN IT REALLY SHOULD HAVE
10:10:14AM COST $2500 BUT THEY WERE FORCED TO PICK A CATER, FORCED TO
10:10:18AM HAVE FULL SERVICE STAFFING.
10:10:20AM I TOOK A PICTURE OF THE FOOD.
10:10:21AM IT WAS CHICKEN FINGERS FROM SAM'S CLUB AND LEMONADE AND A
10:10:26AM PUBLIX CAKE.
10:10:27AM THEY CHARGED $75 A PERSON.
10:10:29AM DON'T GET ME STARTED.
10:10:30AM I WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT.
10:10:32AM THEY CHARGED $75 A PERSON.
10:10:34AM I TOLD YOU ALL THAT IN A MEETING.
10:10:38AM IT WAS RIDICULOUS.
10:10:43AM THAT'S HOW MUCH OF AN OLIGOPOLY THAT WAS TAKING PLACE AMONG
10:10:48AM THOSE CATERERS.
10:10:49AM SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE
10:10:49AM THINGS THAT WAS AN ISSUE.
10:10:50AM THE COMMUNITY PART, MAKING THE DATES AVAILABLE SHOULD BE A
10:10:52AM PART OF THE PROCESS THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT THE
10:10:58AM FACILITY IS ACTUALLY FOR THEM.
10:11:00AM I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
10:11:05AM MS. WYNN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING BEFORE US.
10:11:07AM AND PRESENTING.
10:11:10AM OF COURSE, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO DO TO GET
10:11:14AM IT RIGHT.
10:11:14AM IT SHOULD BE WHERE THE TRANSPARENCY CONTINUES AND IT'S ALSO
10:11:23AM A PART OF THE LANGUAGE OF THE STAFF, CREATING THE NEW
10:11:25AM POSITION PROBABLY WILL HELP FACILITATE THAT AS WELL.
10:11:30AM I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
10:11:32AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:11:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: $75 FOR THAT --
10:11:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: $75 A PERSON.
10:11:37AM MACARONI AND CHEESE AND IT WAS NOT HOMEMADE.
10:11:40AM CHICKEN FINGERS, FAKE LEMONADE AND A PUBLIX CAKE.
10:11:45AM I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT.
10:11:47AM I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT.
10:11:48AM THEN I ASKED THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE TO
10:11:50AM GIVE ME THEIR CONTRACT.
10:11:52AM I WANTED TO SEE IT.
10:11:53AM $7,000 FOR KIDS.
10:11:55AM YOU KNOW WHAT MADE IT REALLY BAD?
10:11:57AM THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY GAVE OUT IN SCHOLARSHIPS.
10:11:59AM THEY COULD HAVE GIVEN MORE MONEY IN SCHOLARSHIPS.
10:12:02AM IT COST THEM MORE MONEY TO BE IN A FACILITY FOR THE
10:12:07AM ORGANIZATION THAT THEY WORK FOR.
10:12:08AM IT JUST DID NOT MAKE SENSE.
10:12:10AM THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE SOLVING THIS.
10:12:14AM THAT'S IT.
10:12:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S ANOTHER THING, I'LL GO TO VIERA,
10:12:18AM HURTAK, MIRANDA, REGARDING THE COST OF THE FACILITY.
10:12:22AM SO WHEN I GOT MARRIED, WE WENT TO A RESTAURANT WITH 32
10:12:26AM PEOPLE -- I'M SORRY, IT WAS CLOSE FAMILY -- EVERYBODY ATE
10:12:35AM STEAK FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS THAN WHAT IT WOULD HAVE
10:12:39AM COST TO JUST RENT JULIAN LANE AND THIS IS WITH WINE.
10:12:45AM IT WAS A WEDDING, WHATEVER.
10:12:46AM JUST THE COST, COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON BRINGS UP A LOT OF
10:12:49AM GOOD POINTS.
10:12:50AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, HURTAK, MIRANDA.
10:12:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST WANTED -- IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YESTERDAY
10:12:58AM I WENT TO AN EVENT THAT OUR FRIEND WALTER SMITH WAS PUTTING
10:13:02AM ON.
10:13:02AM THE OVERALL ISSUE IS ONE I THINK WE CAN ALL GET BEHIND WHICH
10:13:05AM IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS PARK WHICH IS KNOWN AS AN ELITE
10:13:09AM PARK IS GOING TO BE OPEN TO EVERYBODY IN TERMS OF
10:13:12AM ACCESSIBILITY, COST, AND EVERYTHING.
10:13:14AM AGAIN, THINGS ALREADY BEEN SAID, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S
10:13:17AM IN AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CONTINUES TO IMPROVE, BY THE
10:13:20AM WAY.
10:13:20AM THAT IS A PARK THAT IS VERY MUCH USED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:13:23AM I'M THERE A LOT AT EVENTS.
10:13:26AM YOU ALWAYS SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS HAVING A GREAT TIME
10:13:28AM AND IT IS A BLESSING.
10:13:30AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS FACILITY ITSELF IS AN ACCESSIBLE
10:13:35AM BLESSING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:13:36AM LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING WHATEVER WE CAN TO HELP ON THAT.
10:13:40AM THAT'S IT.
10:13:40AM THANK YOU.
10:13:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK.
10:13:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR
10:13:44AM BRINGING UP THE RENTAL COST FOR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT IS
10:13:48AM THE EXACT ISSUE WITH THE SEMINOLE GARDEN CENTER.
10:13:51AM IT IS LITERALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND
10:13:55AM THEY CAN NEVER USE IT.
10:13:57AM I WAS AT A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
10:13:59AM THEY HAD TO HAVE IT AT THE LIBRARY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HAVE A
10:14:02AM COMMUNITY MEETING IN THEIR OWN CITY PUBLIC SPACE WITHOUT
10:14:07AM SPENDING, I THINK AT LEAST $300 AN HOUR.
10:14:10AM I WOULD WELCOME JUST A LOOK AT THAT OVERALL AND WAYS WE CAN
10:14:16AM ALLOW A NEIGHBORHOOD -- I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP WHEN I
10:14:21AM FIRST STARTED, JUST ALLOWING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE
10:14:23AM COMMUNITY CENTERS IN THEM THE ABILITY TO AT LEAST MEET THERE
10:14:28AM TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR FOR NO FEE.
10:14:32AM THERE ARE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS OUT THERE THAT JUST DON'T
10:14:34AM HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT OR DON'T WANT TO USE IT ON THAT.
10:14:38AM I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT LONGER
10:14:42AM TERM.
10:14:43AM I DON'T KNOW IF A MOTION WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT.
10:14:48AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD ON TO WHAT
10:14:50AM YOU'RE WORKING ON.
10:14:52AM IF YOU DO, I'M HAPPY TO --
10:14:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT, HURTAK.
10:14:57AM I WANT TO GIVE THE STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT.
10:15:00AM I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY MAKE A MOTION.
10:15:02AM WHAT I WOULD MOTION FOR IS A WRITTEN REPORT OF THEM
10:15:05AM PROVIDING THE DETAILS OF THE UPDATES AS THEY ARE OCCURRING
10:15:10AM SO THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH
10:15:13AM THE PUBLIC.
10:15:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WOULD BE GREAT -- I'M SORRY.
10:15:18AM SHE WAS JUST RESPONDING TO ME.
10:15:21AM NO, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER
10:15:26AM COMMUNITY CENTERS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT REQUIRE THAT.
10:15:29AM I UNDERSTAND WHY THE SEMINOLE GARDEN CENTER IS THAT WAY
10:15:32AM BECAUSE IT'S NOT STAFFED ALL THE TIME.
10:15:34AM I GET THE REASONING AND THE RATIONALE, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT
10:15:37AM AS A COMMUNITY ASSET, WE NEED TO PAY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO
10:15:44AM USE IT FOR THOSE TIMES.
10:15:45AM THAT'S THE IN-KIND.
10:15:48AM WE DO A LOT OF IN-KIND FOR GIANT PARADES AND ALL THIS STUFF,
10:15:51AM BUT NOT FOR OUR COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WANT TO MEET.
10:15:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY SHOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO HAVE
10:15:58AM CATERING BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MEETING THERE.
10:16:00AM THAT'S ALSO WHY IT WAS EXPENSIVE.
10:16:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
10:16:04AM STILL, I'LL GO TO CARLSON AND THEN CLENDENIN.
10:16:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS BASED ON WHAT
10:16:10AM MY COLLEAGUES SAID.
10:16:11AM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON FOR
10:16:13AM BRINGING THIS UP.
10:16:14AM I THINK I SECONDED IT, WHICH I'M VERY PROUD TO DO BECAUSE OF
10:16:17AM THE GREAT DISCUSSION.
10:16:18AM GIVING ACCESS TO SMALL BUSINESSES IS THE -- IS ONE OF THE
10:16:23AM MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO BECAUSE MOST JOBS IN AMERICA
10:16:26AM ARE FUNDED BY SMALL BUSINESSES.
10:16:28AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO GET SMALL
10:16:31AM BUSINESSES ACCESS.
10:16:32AM TO A POINT MADE EARLIER, THE $12 MILLION THAT WAS SPENT JUST
10:16:36AM ON THIS BUILDING AND THEN THE MORE MONEY THAT WAS SPENT IN
10:16:39AM THIS PARK, BUT ESPECIALLY THIS BUILDING, AT THE TIME AND
10:16:43AM EVEN NOW YEARS LATER, THE PUBLIC, MANY PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC
10:16:46AM THINKS WAS EXCESSIVE AND THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER
10:16:50AM SPENT SOMEWHERE ELSE ON SOME OTHER KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE,
10:16:54AM UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FUNDING SOURCES WERE LIMITED IN HOW
10:16:57AM THEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT.
10:16:59AM SPENT IN OTHER WAYS THAT WOULD DIRECTLY BENEFIT MORE PEOPLE
10:17:01AM IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:17:02AM THE OTHER THING IS THAT IN TERMS OF THE PRICING, ONE OF THE
10:17:08AM THINGS THAT AS THE PUBLIC CRITICIZED THIS BUILDING IN THE
10:17:13AM BEGINNING, FEEDBACK FROM CITY OFFICIALS, WELL, IT'S BUSY ALL
10:17:16AM THE TIME.
10:17:17AM THE PUSH-BACK FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YEAH, BUT NOW OUR
10:17:20AM PLACES ARE EMPTY.
10:17:21AM THE GOVERNMENT CREATED A VERY EXPENSIVE VENUE AND THEN
10:17:24AM COMPETED WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR AGAINST THAT.
10:17:27AM I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SPECIAL
10:17:31AM RATES FOR COMMUNITY GROUPS LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND
10:17:36AM OTHERS THAT MAYBE OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED BY THE CITY.
10:17:39AM OTHER KIND OF EVENTS, CORPORATE EVENTS AND OTHERS, THEY
10:17:42AM SHOULD CHARGE THE SAME AS THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND NOT
10:17:46AM UNDERCUT THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
10:17:48AM OUR INTENTION IS NOT TO UNDERCUT AND HURT COMPANIES AND
10:17:50AM OTHER NONPROFITS.
10:17:51AM THE LAST THING IS, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
10:17:56AM NAME OF THE BUILDING OVER TIME.
10:17:57AM AS IT'S REFERENCED IN THE DOCUMENTS, IT'S CALLED THE JULIAN
10:18:00AM B. LANE RIVERFRONT CENTER.
10:18:02AM CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THAT IS THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THE
10:18:06AM BUILDING?
10:18:08AM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
10:18:10AM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
10:18:12AM YES, I CAN CONFIRM.
10:18:14AM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FRONT OF ME NOW TO SAY IT IS THE
10:18:17AM OFFICIAL NAME.
10:18:17AM I CAN CONFIRM AND LET YOU KNOW.
10:18:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IF THAT IS THE OFFICIAL NAME, IT
10:18:23AM SHOULD STAY.
10:18:24AM IF IT IS NOT THE OFFICIAL NAME, SOME OTHER NAMES HAVE
10:18:27AM CIRCULATED.
10:18:28AM CONSIDERING WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON SAID ABOUT
10:18:30AM HISTORIC AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY THERE, I THINK IF IT'S
10:18:32AM EVER RENAMED -- IF IT'S NAMED JULIAN B. LANE, IT SHOULD
10:18:37AM STAY.
10:18:37AM IF NOT NAMED, NAMED SOMETHING IN RESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY
10:18:40AM THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
10:18:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:18:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT.
10:18:47AM CAUTION EVERYONE, WE ALREADY KNOW OUR PARKS AND REC BUDGET
10:18:51AM IS AS SKINNY AS SKINNY CAN BE.
10:18:53AM IF YOU TAKE MONEY OUT OF ONE POOL, NEED TO KEEP THIS IN MIND
10:18:58AM AS LOOKING AT THE NEXT BUDGET.
10:19:00AM WE HAVE TO SUPPLEMENT WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
10:19:02AM NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE.
10:19:04AM ALL THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO FUND, SO WHEN WE'RE DOING THE
10:19:07AM BUDGET, JUST CONSIDER THAT ANY KIND OF REVENUE WE STRIP ON
10:19:11AM ONE SIDE, WE HAVE TO REPLACE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
10:19:14AM JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
10:19:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION ON THE MOTION, I
10:19:19AM REMEMBER BEING AT BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL JUST OVER TEN YEARS AGO
10:19:22AM BEFORE I GOT ELECTED FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS REGARDING
10:19:25AM THIS PARK.
10:19:25AM AND IT WAS PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY WERE AT THAT MEETING.
10:19:31AM AND IT WAS FOR THE COMMUNITY, BETTER INVESTMENT FOR THE
10:19:34AM COMMUNITY, FOR USE BY THE COMMUNITY.
10:19:36AM I REMEMBER CLEAR AS DAY.
10:19:38AM 10, 11 YEARS AGO.
10:19:40AM THE PEOPLE THERE WERE TALKING ABOUT EVEN THE NAME, WE KNOW
10:19:43AM IT AS RIVERFRONT PARK.
10:19:45AM RIVERFRONT PARK.
10:19:46AM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
10:19:50AM THAT'S WHAT WAS TOLD AND SOLD TO THE PUBLIC TEN YEARS AGO.
10:19:53AM WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT IS A COMMUNITY ASSET THAT'S
10:19:57AM ACCESSIBLE.
10:19:58AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON YOU HAVE A MOTION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER
10:19:59AM MIRANDA WITH THE SECOND.
10:20:00AM DO YOU WANT TO RESTATE?
10:20:03AM >>OCEA WYNN: MAY I MAKE COMMENTS?
10:20:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DID WE WANT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:20:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION.
10:20:09AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL --
10:20:12AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES.
10:20:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.
10:20:14AM THE FIRST SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:20:18AM THE SECOND SPEAKER IS ROBIN LOCKETT AND THEN TO YOU,
10:20:22AM MS. WYNN.
10:20:23AM STEPHANIE POYNOR, COME ON UP.
10:20:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:20:30AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:20:31AM WOW, I HAD NO INTENTION OF COMMENTING ON THIS.
10:20:34AM BUT AFTER I HEARD WHAT MS. WYNN SAID, I'M FLABBERGASTED AT
10:20:37AM WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON AT JULIAN B. LANE.
10:20:40AM FIRST OF ALL, I AM FLOORED THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WOULD
10:20:44AM LET THEM CHARGE A 15% FEE.
10:20:47AM WE CAN'T GET THEM TO DO ANYTHING THAT IS OUTSIDE THE REALM
10:20:52AM OF STATE STATUTES REGULARLY.
10:20:55AM THEY ARE LIKE, OH, YOU CAN'T DO THIS, CAN'T DO THAT.
10:20:57AM FOR THEM TO CHARGE 15% ABOVE AND BEYOND BLOWS MY MIND.
10:21:02AM THAT IS THE FIRST THING.
10:21:03AM THAN WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE MEET AND GREET AT JULIAN B.
10:21:08AM LANE.
10:21:10AM THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.
10:21:11AM WE HAVE IT AT A COMMUNITY CENTER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
10:21:14AM MONEY.
10:21:15AM WE DON'T HAVE A TAX.
10:21:17AM SO WE DON'T GET MONEY.
10:21:19AM WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK BROUGHT UP SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, THAT
10:21:24AM IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE.
10:21:26AM WHY DO COMMUNITY GROUPS AND NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE TO PAY TO USE
10:21:28AM A FACILITY?
10:21:29AM THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING ON EARTH.
10:21:33AM I WOULD NOT KNOW ANYTHING IN THE WORLD ABOUT RENTING
10:21:35AM FACILITIES EXCEPT I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF THE GANDY CIVIC
10:21:38AM ASSOCIATION FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.
10:21:40AM YOU KNOW WHAT WE KEEP OUR SCHEDULE IN?
10:21:42AM A LITTLE NOTEBOOK.
10:21:44AM DURING THE WEEK, JUST ABOUT ANYBODY CAN COME AND USE IT.
10:21:47AM CUB SCOUTS, BOY SCOUTS, GIRL SCOUTS, WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:21:51AM GROUPS THAT WANT TO GET TOGETHER AND PLAY CARDS OR WHATEVER.
10:21:56AM BUT WE WANT THAT FACILITY TO BE USED.
10:21:58AM SO IT'S AVAILABLE.
10:22:00AM THE CITY HAS USED IT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS BECAUSE WE ARE
10:22:04AM THERE TO SERVICE THE COMMUNITY.
10:22:07AM I AM AMAZED AT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS PRIVATE CLUB IN
10:22:12AM THE MIDDLE OF OUR CITY.
10:22:14AM WOW.
10:22:16AM IF YOU DIDN'T TEAR THE PLACE UP, YOU SHOULD GET IT BACK
10:22:29AM IMMEDIATELY.
10:22:30AM 12 YEARS FOR A FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY IS AMAZING.
10:22:37AM I MEAN, MOST RESTAURANTS FOLD UP IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.
10:22:40AM MY MIND IS BLOWN ABOUT THIS ONE.
10:22:45AM HOW DID THEY GET AWAY WITH THE DEPOSITS, RETAINING DEPOSITS?
10:22:51AM I WANT TO KNOW ONE THING, ONE THING I REALLY, REALLY WANT TO
10:22:55AM KNOW, HOW LONG IN ADVANCE A CATERER WOULD HAVE TO APPLY TO
10:22:59AM BE THE CATERER FOR AN EVENT?
10:23:01AM IF IT'S SIX MONTHS, NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT.
10:23:04AM IF IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO GET QUANTIFIED AND YOU HAVE ALL
10:23:08AM THESE HOOPS WAY UP HERE, YOU'LL STILL HAVE NOBODY THERE.
10:23:11AM I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE DONE IN
10:23:15AM LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
10:23:16AM IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG TO APPLY THROUGH THE PROCESS AND
10:23:19AM GET YOUR INSURANCE AND ALL THAT STUFF DONE.
10:23:21AM SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT MUCH.
10:23:22AM I KNOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF HOOPS TO GET
10:23:25AM THINGS DONE.
10:23:27AM WE WANT THIS TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE, THEN IT SHOULD BE
10:23:30AM EASY TO DO.
10:23:31AM NOT TAKE SIX MONTHS.
10:23:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROBIN LOCKETT IS OUR FINAL SPEAKER FOR
10:23:35AM THIS ITEM.
10:23:36AM YES, MA'AM, GOOD MORNING.
10:23:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:23:40AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:23:41AM FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR
10:23:45AM BRINGING THIS UP.
10:23:47AM I WAS SITTING HERE WHEN YOU INITIALLY MADE THE MOTION.
10:23:50AM IN REGARDS TO AFFORDABILITY WITH PARKS, I THINK THIS IS
10:23:56AM SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT THROUGHOUT TAMPA.
10:24:02AM RENTING A PARK OR THE FACILITY AT A PARK IS SO EXPENSIVE.
10:24:06AM I'M LOOKING FOR A BIRTHDAY LOCATION.
10:24:08AM I FOUND ONE IN NEW TAMPA.
10:24:11AM IT'S AT A COMMUNITY CENTER, RIGHT?
10:24:14AM THE ONLY COST TO ME IS THE DEPOSIT.
10:24:18AM IT IS A REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT.
10:24:21AM MAYBE THE IDEA IS THAT IF THERE IS A COMMUNITY PARK, IF
10:24:24AM SOMEONE WANTS TO RENT IT, THEN I HAD TO GET SOMEONE TO RENT
10:24:28AM IT FOR ME, BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THAT COMMUNITY.
10:24:32AM I'M ADJACENT TO IT, BUT MAYBE IF THEY LIVE IN THAT
10:24:38AM COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN PAY FOR THE NON-REFUNDABLE
10:24:42AM DEPOSIT.
10:24:44AM IT'S A COMMUNITY PARK, IF I'M MAKING SENSE.
10:24:47AM YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING?
10:24:48AM OKAY.
10:24:49AM GOOD.
10:24:50AM IT IS A CHARGE FOR THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT?
10:24:51AM BECAUSE IT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE TO RENT A FACILITY.
10:24:56AM I THINK THE IDEA AROUND A PERSON HAVING TO SIGN IN BECAUSE
10:25:15AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IDENTIFIED THAT THE LACK OF TRUST
10:25:17AM WITH PEOPLE, I THINK THE IDEA AROUND SOMEONE HAVING TO SIGN
10:25:21AM INTO A SYSTEM AND DOC STAMPED AND SO FORTH, I THINK THAT IS
10:25:26AM A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THAT TAKES AWAY EVERYTHING.
10:25:29AM BLACK-OUT DAYS, THEN THAT DATE WON'T SHOW UP, BUT PEOPLE
10:25:32AM REGISTERING TO USE THE FACILITY SHOULD BE BY MACHINE AND NOT
10:25:36AM PEOPLE, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BIAS.
10:25:39AM BUT I WANT TO SHARE THE REFUNDABLE DEDUCTIBLE -- I MEAN,
10:25:44AM REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT FOR COMMUNITY PEOPLE AND NOT BEING A
10:25:48AM CHARGE TO THEM.
10:25:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:50AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:25:52AM MRS. WYNN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND THEN WE'LL TAKE
10:25:56AM ANY ACTION.
10:25:57AM YES, MA'AM.
10:25:58AM GO AHEAD.
10:25:58AM >>OCEA WYNN: FIRST, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR BRINGING
10:26:02AM THIS OPPORTUNITY UP TO US TO IMPROVE OUR PROCESS.
10:26:06AM SOMETIMES WE'RE LOOKING SO FAR IN THAT WE DON'T SEE WHAT THE
10:26:10AM PUBLIC SEES BECAUSE WE'RE JUST DOING OUR WORK.
10:26:14AM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
10:26:21AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WE'RE NOT JUST -- JBL CATERING WAS AN
10:26:28AM OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR SITES.
10:26:31AM WE'RE STARTING WITH THAT.
10:26:33AM WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SEMINOLE GARDEN CLUB AS WELL AS ANY OF
10:26:39AM OUR OTHER FACILITIES THAT WE RENT.
10:26:41AM SO THIS IS JUST NOT A ONE-OFF.
10:26:44AM WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS HOLISTICALLY TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO
10:26:47AM IMPROVE.
10:26:48AM WHAT WE COULD RELAX AND ALL OF THAT.
10:26:50AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT.
10:26:53AM THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT THE 12 YEARS FOR CATERING.
10:27:05AM IT'S NOT 12.
10:27:07AM IT'S 7.
10:27:08AM EVEN THOUGH MAY STILL BE EXCESSIVE, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THAT,
10:27:11AM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.
10:27:13AM IT'S NOT 12 YEARS.
10:27:14AM IT IS 7.
10:27:15AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL DO IS I'LL ENSURE AS FAR AS THE
10:27:28AM TRANSPARENCY AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE
10:27:31AM RENTING OF ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, WE'LL HAVE AN FAQ,
10:27:35AM FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS SITE, SO THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE
10:27:39AM SAME INFORMATION.
10:27:42AM IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, IT'S RIGHT.
10:27:44AM IF IT'S ALL WRONG, IT'S WRONG.
10:27:46AM EVERYBODY WILL GET THE SAME THING.
10:27:47AM I WILL COMMIT TO YOU THAT YOU WILL GET THAT.
10:27:50AM I WOULD ASK AS YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION, THERE ARE SOME THINGS
10:27:53AM THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT INTERNALLY AND WE'RE GOING TO
10:27:57AM NEED SOME TIME.
10:27:58AM WOULD YOU CONSIDER US COMING BACK 90, 120 DAYS WITH A REPORT
10:28:03AM OR TO REPORT TO GIVE US TIME NOT TO JUST PUT A BAND-AID ON
10:28:08AM IT BUT TO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO ENSURING, FIRST, ALL OF THESE
10:28:13AM QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED AS WELL AS LOOKING AT OTHER
10:28:18AM OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO IMPROVE OUR PROCESS?
10:28:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. WYNN, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE YOU
10:28:26AM THE TIME YOU NEED.
10:28:27AM THAT IS DEFINITELY FAIR.
10:28:28AM IN CONSIDERATION OF THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT YOU
10:28:31AM TO DIVE INTO, BECAUSE THIS ALSO HAPPENED TO ME IN RENTING
10:28:36AM THE FACILITY ON JUNE 3rd, MY AIDE GOT A CALL SAYING, OH,
10:28:40AM WELL, WHAT CATERER ARE YOU PICKING?
10:28:42AM WE WERE STILL UNDER THE OLD CONTRACT.
10:28:45AM I SAID MY CATERER DOESN'T EXIST IN YOUR CURRENT PROCESS, SO
10:28:50AM I WILL BE SHARING THAT AFTER APRIL 1st.
10:28:52AM SO MY POINT IS, IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE YOU
10:28:54AM TO LOOK AT IS EVERYONE WHO HAS BOOKED AFTER APRIL 1st IS
10:28:57AM ENTITLED TO AT LEAST -- REQUIRED TO PROBABLY PICK AMONG THE
10:29:01AM OLD CATERERS, THEY SHOULD BE INFORMED THAT THEY CAN USE THE
10:29:05AM CATERER OF THEIR CHOICE AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE
10:29:09AM REQUIREMENTS AND SHOULD ALL BE INFORMED IN WRITING,
10:29:11AM ESPECIALLY IF THEY PICKED A CATERER THAT THEY REALLY DID NOT
10:29:15AM WANT BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY THE ONES IN FRONT OF THEM AND THEIR
10:29:18AM EVENT IS AFTER APRIL 1st.
10:29:20AM >>OCEA WYNN: I WILL COMMIT TO THAT.
10:29:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:29:25AM OTHER THAN THAT, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
10:29:27AM THIS WAS A VERY HEALTHY, GOOD DISCUSSION.
10:29:32AM I WANT TO BE EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF AND THAT IS AN
10:29:35AM EASY ASK.
10:29:36AM THANK YOU.
10:29:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND YOU WILL BE THE
10:29:38AM LAST SPEAKER AND THEN THE MOTION AND VOTE.
10:29:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO QUICKLY SAY, THANK YOU, MS. WYNN,
10:29:44AM FOR COMING HERE TODAY, FOR THE PUBLIC.
10:29:45AM SHE'S ONE OF THE SENIOR ADMINISTRATORS THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY
10:29:48AM TO THE MAYOR.
10:29:49AM SHE HAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PORTFOLIOS IN THE CITY.
10:29:52AM LOTS OF DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT DON'T SEEM CONNECTED.
10:29:54AM THIS IS ONE ISSUE INSIDE ONE PARK AND ONE BUILDING, AND IT
10:29:59AM SHOWS THAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT HAVE TAKEN IT SERIOUSLY,
10:30:01AM THAT YOU CAME HERE AND THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IT AND
10:30:04AM RESEARCHED IT PERSONALLY.
10:30:05AM THANK YOU.
10:30:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:30:07AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION?
10:30:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AUGUST 1st -- THE END OF AUGUST, AUGUST
10:30:15AM 31st, THAT WOULD BE 120 DAYS.
10:30:18AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM, THAT WILL WORK.
10:30:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE THAT OUR ADMINISTRATOR RETURN WITH
10:30:26AM AN UPDATE --
10:30:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING ON THE 31st.
10:30:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SAYING BY THE 31st, GET IT DONE.
10:30:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AUGUST 28.
10:30:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 28.
10:30:40AM OKAY.
10:30:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REGULAR SESSION.
10:30:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
10:30:43AM SO AUGUST 28 RETURN WITH THE UPDATE ON JULIAN B. LANE AND
10:30:51AM THE CONTINUED EFFORTS OF OPEN TRANSPARENCY AND NEW POLICY
10:30:54AM UPDATES.
10:30:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:30:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ADD ANY OTHER -- JUST THE UPDATE ON THE
10:31:04AM -- JUST ON THE FACILITIES AS A WHOLE, OPENING UP OTHER
10:31:08AM COMMUNITIES, SINCE MS. WYNN SAID SHE WOULD DO THAT.
10:31:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A WRITTEN REPORT?
10:31:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, WRITTEN REPORT.
10:31:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:31:18AM HENDERSON.
10:31:18AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
10:31:19AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:31:20AM AYE.
10:31:21AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:31:21AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:23AM ITEM NUMBER 3 WE HAVE EVAN JOHNSON HERE.
10:31:27AM JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND ALSO MENTION TONY MULKEY.
10:31:32AM MR. MULKEY PRESENTING OR JUST YOU?
10:31:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:31:44AM >>EVAN JOHNSON: EVAN JOHNSON, CITY PLANNING.
10:31:46AM APPRECIATE TAKING A FEW MINUTES.
10:31:48AM I KNOW YOU ALL CONTINUED THE LARGER DISCUSSION THIS MORNING
10:31:51AM REGARDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN.
10:31:52AM BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE
10:31:55AM CONTEXT AS TO WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE.
10:31:59AM I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE ELMO
10:32:02AM FOR EASE OF DESCRIPTION.
10:32:04AM DID I DO THAT RIGHT?
10:32:06AM PRETTY CLOSE.
10:32:08AM SO JUST TO PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ON TV
10:32:14AM TODAY, THIS PROCESS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN, THE
10:32:17AM MASTER PLAN, STARTED BASICALLY AT THE END OF 2024.
10:32:21AM WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR AND
10:32:25AM HOPEFULLY WRAPPING EVERYTHING UP BY THE FIRST OF 2026.
10:32:28AM WE ARE WRAPPING UP WHAT IS PHASE ONE OF THE PROJECT, WHICH
10:32:31AM IS REALLY ABOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT.
10:32:35AM AS YOU CAN MAYBE SEE FROM THIS, WE HAVE AN OCTOBER 25th
10:32:38AM WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF PHASE THREE.
10:32:40AM THAT'S WHY WE ASKED TO COME BACK IN OCTOBER TO TALK TO YOU
10:32:44AM ALL ABOUT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STUDY ITSELF.
10:32:46AM BECAUSE BY THEN WE WILL HAVE HOPEFULLY SOME REFINED DRAFT
10:32:49AM ITEMS TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE COME BACK WITH A FINAL DOCUMENT
10:32:53AM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
10:32:53AM THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS AT THE HEART OF IT IS REALLY
10:32:58AM ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
10:33:00AM WE HAVE A FANTASTIC CONSULTANT GROUP THAT'S HELPING US.
10:33:04AM THEY HAVE ESTIMATED -- NOT ESTIMATED, THEY ACTUALLY TRACKED
10:33:08AM THIS.
10:33:08AM PUT 186 HOURS SO FAR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TALKING TO
10:33:11AM NEIGHBORHOOD MEMBERS, GIVING TOURS, TALKING TO THE NONPROFIT
10:33:16AM ORGANIZATIONS IN THE AREA.
10:33:17AM WE'VE HAD A WORKSHOP.
10:33:20AM 80 PARTICIPANTS.
10:33:20AM WE HAD PARTICIPATION AT THE LIT FEST DONE DURING SPRING
10:33:25AM BREAK.
10:33:26AM GREAT TIME TO GET FAMILIES AND THEIR CHILDREN OUT TO TALK
10:33:28AM ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY.
10:33:30AM WE'VE HAD OVER 160 RESPONSES ON A PUBLIC SURVEY, WHICH WILL
10:33:35AM BE CLOSING THIS WEEK.
10:33:36AM WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF NEWS STORIES AS WELL ABOUT THE EFFORT.
10:33:39AM WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVITY THIS WEEK
10:33:43AM AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE IT UP AND START TO PULL THOSE RESULTS
10:33:46AM TOGETHER.
10:33:47AM I AM USUALLY NOT MOVING PAPER OFF OF THIS.
10:33:55AM I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
10:33:56AM NOTHING TOO SURPRISING I WOULD SAY FROM THE THEMES THAT
10:33:58AM FOLKS HAVE BROUGHT UP THUS FAR.
10:34:02AM I WOULD SAY JUST FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY
10:34:05AM AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD, THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S BEEN
10:34:10AM UNDERINVESTED IN FOR A LONG TIME.
10:34:12AM WE ALL KNOW THIS.
10:34:14AM I THINK RIGHT NOW THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT TOPIC AREAS,
10:34:18AM CELEBRATING THE HISTORY, IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, SMALL
10:34:21AM BUSINESS SUPPORT AND DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT.
10:34:23AM I KNOW PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE INVESTMENT, WHETHER THAT BE
10:34:26AM IN NEW BUSINESSES, ENTREPRENEURIAL OPPORTUNITIES OR HOUSING.
10:34:29AM SO THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES HERE.
10:34:31AM I THINK OUR GOAL AND OUR JOB WITH THE MASTER PLANNING
10:34:35AM PROCESS IS TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO PRIORITIZE IN HOPES
10:34:39AM THAT WHEN WE COME BACK AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS AND
10:34:42AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS, THAT WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC
10:34:46AM GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BOUGHT INTO AS FAR AS
10:34:49AM WHAT IS FIRST, WHAT'S SECOND, WHAT'S THIRD.
10:34:52AM I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL
10:34:55AM AT ONCE.
10:34:56AM THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT WOULD NEED TO BE INVESTED ALL
10:35:00AM AT ONCE IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
10:35:01AM WE MOVE ONE BUDGET AT A TIME.
10:35:03AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING THE RIGHT
10:35:06AM PRIORITIES FIRST THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE.
10:35:09AM FINALLY, JUST FOR EVERYONE, NEXT STEPS TO THE REPORT IN THE
10:35:14AM PROCESS, WE WILL BE LAUNCHING ANOTHER SURVEY IN JUNE,
10:35:18AM FOLLOWING, WE HAVE A REPORT THAT WILL BE GOING, RELEASE THE
10:35:21AM PHASE ONE REPORT THAT WE'LL PUT ON OUR WEBSITE FOR EVERYBODY
10:35:24AM TO LOOK AT AND PROVIDE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT.
10:35:27AM SO THAT'S TAMPA.GOV/SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:35:31AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO CONTACT
10:35:34AM THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, MYSELF, OR, MORE IMPORTANTLY,
10:35:38AM LAUREN O'NEILL, WHO IS RIGHT BEHIND ME MANAGING THIS PROJECT
10:35:43AM DAY TO DAY.
10:35:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:35:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW WE'LL BE HEARING ABOUT THE POOL AS
10:35:50AM WELL.
10:35:51AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS REPORT.
10:35:53AM WE'VE OBVIOUSLY TALKED AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE
10:35:56AM DOING.
10:35:57AM LIKE I SAID, SULPHUR SPRINGS IS A VERY, VERY IGNORED AREA.
10:35:59AM IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
10:36:03AM POVERTY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S SO IGNORED THAT WHENEVER
10:36:06AM WE TALK ABOUT POVERTY, TALKING ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS, I
10:36:09AM DON'T GET IT.
10:36:11AM I REALLY DON'T.
10:36:12AM WE MENTIONED A LOT YBOR, EAST TAMPA, SOMETIMES UNIVERSITY
10:36:16AM AREA, BUT NOT SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:36:19AM AND GIVEN THEIR HISTORY AND THE TERRIBLE STATISTICS WE SEE
10:36:26AM OUT THERE AND DEPRIVATION THAT RESIDENTS LIVE OUT THERE, IT
10:36:29AM IS SURPRISING.
10:36:30AM ABOUT 70% CHILD POVERTY IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
10:36:33AM SEVEN OUT OF TEN KIDS THERE LIVE IN POVERTY.
10:36:36AM WE DEAL WITH BEFORE THIS PLAN CAME BEFORE US, WHICH SHOULD
10:36:41AM PROVIDE A GOOD LONG-TERM MAP AND INCUMBENT ON ELECTED
10:36:45AM OFFICIALS TO FUND IT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT WE REALLY
10:36:48AM DEALT WITH TWO ISSUES WITH SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:36:51AM THAT'S THE POOL AND WE'LL BE HEARING ABOUT THAT.
10:36:53AM AND THEN THAT'S COMMUNITY STEPPING STONES, WHICH I THINK WE
10:36:56AM GIVE THEM, WHAT IS IT, 75,000 OR SOMETHING DOLLARS A YEAR.
10:37:02AM WHICH IS GREAT.
10:37:03AM THEY ARE A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.
10:37:04AM MY MESSAGE IS TO DO SOMETHING IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, REPAIRING
10:37:07AM THE POOL AND PUTTING THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS 70% CHILD
10:37:12AM POVERTY WHERE THEY WERE A YEAR AGO WITH A POOL IS NOT A BIG
10:37:15AM ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
10:37:19AM INVESTING IN COMMUNITY STEPPING STONES LIKE WE SHOULD,
10:37:23AM SHOULD BE DOING A LONG TIME AND LIKE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT
10:37:25AM CIVIC AND CHARITY GROUPS, AGAIN, DOESN'T REALLY MOVE THE
10:37:28AM NEEDLE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:37:29AM SULPHUR SPRINGS NEEDS MAJOR, NEEDS LIKE A LOCAL MARTIAL PLAN
10:37:34AM IN MY OPINION, WHEN YOU LOOK AT STATISTICS OUT THERE.
10:37:37AM I MENTIONED BEFORE CRA FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:37:39AM PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN WHILE I'M ON CITY COUNCIL, BUT I THINK
10:37:42AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS INEVITABLE.
10:37:44AM YOU TALK TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS OUT THERE AND GO, WHY DON'T
10:37:47AM HAVE A CRA?
10:37:48AM MAKES NO SENSE.
10:37:50AM ONE OF THE BIG BENEFITS FOR A CRA IN SULPHUR SPRINGS IS THAT
10:37:54AM IT GIVES CIVIC FOUNDATIONS TO A PLACE THAT DOESN'T REALLY
10:37:59AM HAVE STRONG ENOUGH CIVIC FOUNDATIONS TO COME AND LOBBY CITY
10:38:02AM COUNCIL, TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND IN LOCAL
10:38:05AM COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING.
10:38:06AM THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF CRAs.
10:38:08AM A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WITH CRAs THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF CRAs
10:38:11AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA RIGHT NOW.
10:38:14AM I AGREE WITH THAT.
10:38:15AM THE GOOD THING IS, I THINK WITHIN NINE YEARS, CHANNELSIDE
10:38:18AM WILL BE LEAVING.
10:38:19AM THE CHANNELSIDE CRA WILL BE LEAVING.
10:38:21AM WE GET STARTED ON SULPHUR SPRINGS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO TO
10:38:24AM FOUR YEARS, IT WILL BE TAKING OFF BY THE TIME THAT
10:38:27AM CHANNELSIDE LEAVES.
10:38:28AM AGAIN, THAT IS ACTUALLY A VERY WORTHY POINT.
10:38:31AM A LOT OF FOLKS SAY, WELL, CRAs FORCE US TO SPEND MONEY IN
10:38:35AM AREAS.
10:38:39AM I STIPULATE TO THAT.
10:38:40AM YOU ASK ME TO AGREE TO THAT I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
10:38:43AM GUESS WHAT, WE WILL NOT SPEND MONEY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS
10:38:46AM UNLESS IF WE HAVE TO.
10:38:47AM WHY?
10:38:48AM I'VE BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL FOR EIGHT YEARS AND WE HAVE NOT
10:38:50AM SPENT A LOT OF MONEY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:38:52AM SO I LOOK AT PAST ACTION AND PAST PERFORMANCE.
10:38:55AM BY THE WAY, I'VE BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL FOR EIGHT YEARS.
10:38:57AM I'M NOT POINTING THE FINGER AT ANYBODY.
10:38:59AM I'M MEASURING MY TIME.
10:39:01AM IF WE WERE TO PASS A CRA IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE WOULD HAVE
10:39:06AM MECHANISMS BY WHICH WE WOULD COMPEL SPENDING MONEY AND
10:39:12AM INVESTING MONEY IN BUILDING UP CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE
10:39:15AM SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
10:39:17AM IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
10:39:19AM AGAIN, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNDER THIS COUNCIL, VERY
10:39:22AM LIKELY.
10:39:22AM I DON'T THINK SO.
10:39:23AM MAYBE IT DOES.
10:39:24AM MAYBE IT WILL.
10:39:25AM BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS INEVITABLE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE
10:39:30AM CHANNELSIDE CRA LEAVING.
10:39:33AM AGAIN, IF WE DON'T HAVE MEASURES THAT COMPEL US TO SPEND
10:39:37AM MONEY IN AREAS LIKE SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE WILL DO WHAT WE HAVE
10:39:41AM DONE WITH THE POOL, WHICH IS INSTEAD OF BEING PROACTIVE, WE
10:39:44AM WILL BE REACTIVE.
10:39:46AM SLUPHUR SPRINGS GOT ON OUR RADAR BECAUSE OF THE POOL AND
10:39:49AM BECAUSE WE ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE UP HERE AND CARE ABOUT FOLKS,
10:39:52AM OH, MY GOSH, THE POOL IS GONE.
10:39:54AM THAT'S TERRIBLE.
10:39:56AM LET'S HELP THEM OUT.
10:39:57AM WE OUGHT TO BE PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE.
10:39:59AM I THINK THE CRA HELPS US TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN EVERYTHING.
10:40:02AM BUT THE GOOD THING IS EVEN WITHOUT A CRA, THIS PLAN WILL
10:40:07AM HELP, GOD WILLING, GIVE US A MAP ON WAYS WE CAN INVEST IN
10:40:12AM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:40:12AM I DO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
10:40:16AM THAT WANT TO INVEST IN SULPHUR SPRINGS OR SOME GREAT NAMES
10:40:20AM LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW AND DOING THINGS RIGHT NOW AND
10:40:23AM USING THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AS PART OF THE
10:40:27AM HUMAN CAPITAL THAT ARE THERE TO HELP INVEST IN THOSE
10:40:31AM COMMUNITIES AND SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
10:40:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:40:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND CARLSON.
10:40:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
10:40:39AM ONE THING ON THE LIST THAT INTRIGUED ME -- OR WASN'T ON THE
10:40:43AM LIST AND INTRIGUED ME BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL VERY
10:40:46AM SIGNIFICANT ISSUES, AND THAT IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND GUN
10:40:51AM VIOLENCE.
10:40:54AM PEOPLE EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THE ISSUE.
10:40:56AM I THINK THERE IS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE THERE.
10:40:57AM I THINK EVERYBODY DESERVES TO LIVE IN A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:41:00AM AND FEEL SAFE WHEN THE KIDS GO OUTSIDE THAT THE KIDS WILL
10:41:03AM RETURN.
10:41:04AM I THINK THAT HAS TO ALWAYS BE IN THE FOREFRONT WHEN WE
10:41:08AM DEVELOP THESE THINGS.
10:41:09AM I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, I DON'T
10:41:12AM NECESSARILY AGREE HOW TO GET THERE.
10:41:15AM SEVERAL THINGS WE HAVE TO GUARD AGAINST.
10:41:16AM ONE, GENTRIFICATION.
10:41:17AM WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE BRING TO THE
10:41:20AM TABLE FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS ARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING
10:41:23AM IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:41:27AM WE DON'T NEED TO CREATE ANOTHER WATER STREET IN SULPHUR
10:41:30AM SPRINGS.
10:41:31AM WE NEED TO HAVE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HELP THE PEOPLE LIVING
10:41:34AM IN THE COMMUNITY, HELP THEM RENOVATE AND IMPROVE THEIR
10:41:37AM HOUSES BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF HOUSING THAT PEOPLE CAN
10:41:39AM STILL, NOT THAT ANYBODY CAN AFFORD ANYTHING IN TAMPA NOW,
10:41:42AM BUT RELATIVELY SPEAKING, RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE.
10:41:44AM AND WE NEED TO AGAIN BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY THING, WE
10:41:48AM NEED TO MAKE SURE SIDEWALKS, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF
10:41:51AM KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:41:52AM WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE WALKING TO -- IF THEY ARE GOING TO
10:41:55AM WALK TO THE POOL OR WALK TO A PARK OR TO A STEPPING STONES,
10:42:02AM THEY SHOULD BE SAFE THE KIDS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE
10:42:05AM NEED TO BE PROVIDING THOSE RESOURCES.
10:42:07AM I'LL DIFFER FROM ONE THING THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAYS.
10:42:10AM HE TALKED ABOUT THIS COUNCIL BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT
10:42:13AM SPENDING MONEY.
10:42:13AM THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T SPEND MONEY.
10:42:15AM WE ALLOCATE MONEY.
10:42:16AM THIS IS SOMETHING THE ADMINISTRATION, WE NEED TO SPEAK TO
10:42:18AM THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT OF PRIORITIZING THE SPENDING IN
10:42:21AM THESE NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT -- THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY
10:42:26AM BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING US A
10:42:28AM BUDGET AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THAT BUDGET.
10:42:31AM LET'S ASK THAT THE BUDGET THEY SUBMIT HAS SOME OF THESE
10:42:34AM PRIORITIES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED.
10:42:37AM I THINK THAT IS THE PATH TO SUCCESS.
10:42:41AM I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF THE CRA, BUT I THINK OTHER THAN
10:42:44AM THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT CONTRIBUTING, WE HAVE
10:42:49AM COMPLETE CONTROL, THE CITY DOES, BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION
10:42:52AM AND THIS COUNCIL, OF HOW WE IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIVES OF
10:42:57AM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT JUST LIVING IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:43:00AM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO MENTIONED PALMETTO BEACH AREA OR THE
10:43:08AM PORT TAMPA AREA.
10:43:09AM THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OF THAT.
10:43:11AM WE NEED -- BE IN THE FOREFRONT OF OUR MINDS OF ONE OF THE
10:43:15AM BEST PURPOSES OF GOVERNMENT IS TO HELP FOLKS AND GIVE THEM A
10:43:20AM HAND UP AND HELP THEM BETTER THEIR LIVES AND THEIR FAMILIES'
10:43:25AM LIVES IN A WAY THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO GIVEN THE
10:43:30AM RESOURCES THEY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
10:43:31AM THAT'S MY KEY ISSUE.
10:43:32AM I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT SULPHUR SPRINGS AS A DEVELOPMENT
10:43:37AM OPPORTUNITY.
10:43:37AM I WANT TO LOOK AT IT AS A COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITY
10:43:41AM TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY TO HELP THE FOLKS
10:43:44AM THAT ARE ACTUALLY LIVING THERE AND NOT BUILD IT OUT FOR RICH
10:43:47AM PEOPLE.
10:43:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:43:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, SIMILAR TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST
10:43:53AM SAID, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST ANY NEW CRAs BECAUSE I THINK
10:43:57AM THEY ARE BAD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:43:59AM IT'S A MOOT POINT ANYWAY BECAUSE THE STATE IS MEETING
10:44:02AM TOMORROW BASED ON THE LATEST UPDATE I GOT LAST NIGHT AND
10:44:05AM THEY ARE GOING TO BAN NEW CRAs.
10:44:07AM IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.
10:44:12AM I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO TELL PEOPLE IS THAT WHAT CRAs ARE
10:44:18AM FOR IS FOR REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
10:44:19AM THAT'S HOW THEY HAVE BEEN USED MOSTLY.
10:44:21AM MAYBE NOT HOW IT WAS INTENDED BY LEGISLATION BUT HOW THEY
10:44:24AM HAVE BEEN USED.
10:44:25AM USED TO INCENTIVIZE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
10:44:29AM ALL IT DOES IS IT PAYS -- IT KEEPS THE ADDED PROPERTY TAXES
10:44:34AM IN THAT AREA.
10:44:35AM HOW DO YOU GET ADDED PROPERTY TAXES?
10:44:37AM THE WAY CRAs TRADITIONALLY DO IT, THEY USE NEW TAXES TO
10:44:40AM SUBSIDIZE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT GOES IN.
10:44:43AM AS I SAID BEFORE, IF THE PEOPLE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS WANT
10:44:46AM 20-STORY CONDOS ON THE RIVER, CRA IS THE RIGHT SOLUTION.
10:44:50AM IF YOU WANT YOUR ROADS FIXED AND YOUR PARKS FIXED AND YOU
10:44:52AM WANT A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT SOLUTION.
10:44:56AM IF YOU ARE JUST UPGRADING THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S NOT
10:45:00AM GOING TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE CRA.
10:45:01AM THE ONLY WAY TO PUT MORE MONEY IN THE CRA IS BUILD SHINY NEW
10:45:05AM BUILDINGS AND EXPENSIVE BUILDINGS.
10:45:06AM THAT'S WHY DOWNTOWN HAS SO MUCH MONEY IN IT.
10:45:09AM THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF YOU DON'T WANT GENTRIFICATION AND
10:45:12AM YOU DON'T WANT THESE FANCY NEW BUILDINGS, IF THE AD VALOREM
10:45:16AM TAXES GO UP IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, THE CITY STILL HAS THAT
10:45:19AM MONEY.
10:45:20AM IT'S NOT NEW MONEY.
10:45:21AM THE ONLY WAY WE GET NEW MONEY IS IF WE PROMOTE
10:45:24AM GENTRIFICATION.
10:45:25AM BY CHARTER, CITY COUNCIL HAS THE RIGHT TO APPROVE THE
10:45:29AM BUDGET.
10:45:30AM THE MAYOR PROPOSED A BUDGET, BUT WE APPROVE IT.
10:45:32AM WE CAN CHANGE IT WITH FIVE VOTES.
10:45:34AM WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:45:36AM WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE BUDGET.
10:45:38AM TYPICALLY THERE'S SOME DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL
10:45:41AM MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, BUT WE DON'T NEED THE
10:45:43AM MAYOR'S OFFICE BUY-IN.
10:45:45AM WE CAN DO THIS.
10:45:46AM JUST LIKE WITH THE STEPPING STONES, WE CAN ALLOCATE THE
10:45:51AM MONEY.
10:45:51AM IF THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T SPEND IT, WE HAVE TO DRAG THEM
10:45:54AM HERE.
10:45:54AM HOPEFULLY THEY WILL COOPERATE BECAUSE THE PROBLEM THAT WAS
10:45:57AM IDENTIFIED IS REAL.
10:45:59AM IF COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA OR SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
10:46:03AM MOTION AT SOME POINT, PROPOSE 500,000 AS A BUCKET FOR
10:46:09AM NONPROFITS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:46:12AM ANOTHER NONPROFIT I VISITED, LAILA'S HOUSE, FRIEND OF MINE
10:46:17AM STARTED, IT'S PART OF CHAMPIONS FOR CHILDREN, ALL THESE
10:46:20AM GREAT PROGRAMS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:46:21AM WE FUNDED ONE, BUT WE CAN FUND OTHERS.
10:46:25AM SET ASIDE 500,000 OR A MILLION DOLLARS OF GENERAL FUND MONEY
10:46:28AM FOR A BUCKET AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE SOCIAL ARTS AND
10:46:33AM ACTION BUDGET IN A MINUTE.
10:46:34AM IF WE HAD AN EXTRA 500,000 OR MILLION DOLLARS FOR NONPROFITS
10:46:38AM IN SULPHUR SPRINGS THAT FOLLOW A CERTAIN KIND OF POLICY,
10:46:41AM THEN WE COULD GET A STAFF PERSON TO ACCEPT GRANT
10:46:44AM APPLICATIONS AND PROVIDE MONEY.
10:46:46AM THAT COULD BE TRANSFORMATIONAL.
10:46:48AM WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
10:46:50AM DO THAT TODAY, MAKE THAT PROPOSAL.
10:46:51AM I THINK IT WOULD PASS.
10:46:53AM WE COULD ALSO PUT IT IN THE NEXT BUDGET, MORE THAN 500,000
10:46:56AM OR A MILLION DOLLARS, WE CAN.
10:46:57AM WE, CITY COUNCIL, NEED TO STAND TOGETHER AND SUPPORT THESE
10:47:01AM NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE FIVE VOTES.
10:47:03AM THANK YOU.
10:47:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN ME.
10:47:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:47:06AM I AGREE WITH SOME.
10:47:07AM I DISAGREE WITH OTHERS.
10:47:09AM ANYWAY, A CRA TO ME IS A BANKING OF TIME.
10:47:13AM BEFORE THAT BANKING OF TIME, THERE WAS NOTHING THERE THAT
10:47:16AM HAPPENED DURING THAT TIME.
10:47:17AM YOU HAVE A CRA AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE THERE MAKE THE
10:47:24AM CHANGES, THEN YOU HAVE A BANKING THAT WORKS.
10:47:29AM CRA STAY STATUS QUO, THEN YOU FAIL.
10:47:32AM BUT I HAVE YET TO SEE A CRA THAT'S FAILING IN TAMPA.
10:47:35AM WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT NINE YEARS, EIGHT YEARS, WHATEVER
10:47:39AM IS LEFT?
10:47:40AM THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL INHERIT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THEIR
10:47:48AM WHAT?
10:47:48AM GENERAL FUND.
10:47:51AM HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHATEVER IT IS.
10:47:55AM AT THE SAME TIME, THEY ARE GOING TO INHERIT A PORTION OF 8
10:47:58AM DIFFERENT CRAs THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO A STANDARD
10:48:01AM THAT WAS NOT THERE BEFORE.
10:48:03AM WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, IT WORKS.
10:48:13AM CRAs DO EXIST IN FLORIDA.
10:48:14AM MIGHT BE AN ENDING TO THEM, MAYBE NOT.
10:48:17AM WAY OF LIFE OF DOING THINGS, POLITICIANS DON'T GET INVOLVED
10:48:23AM AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
10:48:24AM PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE MAKE THE DECISIONS IN A WAY.
10:48:26AM BUT WHEN YOU SEE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING IN
10:48:30AM DIFFERENT AREAS, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THERE'S NO CRA IN YBOR
10:48:34AM CITY FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS?
10:48:36AM NOTHING MAYBE.
10:48:37AM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE WATERFRONT ON THE EAST SIDE OF
10:48:44AM TOWN.
10:48:44AM WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
10:48:44AM HOLY HELL, THIS IS GORGEOUS.
10:48:51AM WE'RE GOING TO INHERIT THAT WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT AND
10:48:55AM YOU'LL HAVE THAT MONEY COMING TO THE GENERAL FUND.
10:48:57AM THE ONES TAKING THE HEAT, THE ONES WHO DON'T LIKE CRAs
10:49:03AM GOING TO BE FORGOTTEN.
10:49:04AM WHOEVER COMES IN THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS WHEN THE CRA BRINGS IN
10:49:07AM THE MONEY, THEY WILL BE IN WONDERFUL LAND.
10:49:09AM THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE OF FUNDS
10:49:14AM THAT WOULD GO A HUNDRED PERCENT TO THE GENERAL FUND, NO TO
10:49:17AM THE NOWHERE ELSE.
10:49:18AM YOU HEAR PEOPLE RUNNING FOR DIFFERENT OFFICES, POUNDING
10:49:24AM THEIR CHEST, I DON'T POUND MY CHEST BECAUSE I HAVE A VERY
10:49:27AM NARROW CHEST.
10:49:28AM IT WOULD HURT.
10:49:29AM BUT I ADMIT TO THAT.
10:49:30AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE
10:49:35AM AT.
10:49:36AM RUNNING A BUSINESS, RUNNING A CITY, AND LIVING A LIFE IS ALL
10:49:40AM THE SAME, JUST IN DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
10:49:42AM SO THESE NUMBERS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS MAY OR MAY NOT FIGURE
10:49:48AM INTO HAVING A CRA.
10:49:51AM HOWEVER, THEN YOU HAVE THE OTHER ANIMAL LOOKING AT YOU, THEY
10:49:54AM MAY BE ALL ABOLISHED OTHER THAN THE ONES WE HAVE NOW.
10:49:57AM YOU'RE TAKING A RISK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
10:50:00AM BUT YBOR CITY FAILED TWO OR THREE TIMES.
10:50:04AM I SHOULDN'T SAY THE WORDS FAIL.
10:50:07AM DIDN'T MEET THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WERE SET FORTH.
10:50:10AM THE OTHERS HAVE ALL MET THE EXPECTATIONS THE FIRST TIME
10:50:14AM AROUND, I BELIEVE.
10:50:16AM THERE ARE DIFFERENT AREAS OF TOWN THAT YOU COULD HAVE WALKED
10:50:19AM THROUGH AND YOU SAY WHAT AM I DOING HERE?
10:50:21AM WHEN THOSE LOTS WERE 15,000, 10,000, NOW THEY ARE 500, 600
10:50:26AM THOUSAND THE SAME LOT.
10:50:27AM YOU SAY, WHAT HAPPENED?
10:50:29AM WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT GOT DEVELOPED THE RIGHT WAY.
10:50:32AM AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
10:50:35AM LISTEN, I LIVED IN THE BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD.
10:50:39AM IT WAS CALLED TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
10:50:41AM WE NEVER HAD NO PROBLEM.
10:50:43AM HAD A LOT OF KIDS.
10:50:45AM HAD A LOT OF FUN.
10:50:46AM LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS SAYING, WE HAD ONE THING CALLED
10:50:50AM CUSCADEN PARK POOL.
10:50:52AM WHEN THAT POOL WENT DOWN ONCE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, WE DIDN'T
10:50:55AM KNOW WHAT TO DO.
10:50:56AM IT WAS A UNITY FOR US TO CHITCHAT WITH EACH OTHER AND
10:51:01AM UNDERSTAND MORE AND MORE.
10:51:02AM WHEN YOU LEARN THINGS, YOU DON'T LEARN ABOUT BEING JUST WITH
10:51:06AM YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER.
10:51:07AM SURE, THEY ARE THE GUIDANCE.
10:51:08AM YOU GO OUT AND LISTEN TO THE WORLD AND YOU UNDERSTAND, YOUR
10:51:11AM MIND STARTS TO FLICKER, IS THIS RIGHT OR WRONG?
10:51:13AM THAT'S WHAT MAKES KIDS HUMAN BEINGS, MEN AND WOMEN.
10:51:16AM EVERYTHING IN LIFE COMES AROUND AND GOES AROUND.
10:51:21AM I'M OPEN TO ALL DISCUSSIONS OF SULPHUR SPRINGS BECAUSE I
10:51:24AM REMEMBER ONE TIME THEY NEEDED DENSITY, SO WHAT HAPPENS?
10:51:27AM THEY STARTED BUILDING DUPLEXES FOR DENSITY.
10:51:30AM TRUE FACT.
10:51:31AM BUT THAT HELPED TO SOME DEGREE AND HURT IN ANOTHER DEGREE.
10:51:35AM WE WANT SOMETHING MUCH BETTER LOOKING THAN THAT.
10:51:40AM HOWEVER, IT DOES HAVE A PROBLEM.
10:51:42AM THREE PROBLEMS.
10:51:43AM THE INTERSTATE, REAL FAST.
10:51:45AM FLORIDA AVENUE, REAL FAST.
10:51:47AM NEBRASKA AVENUE, REAL FAST.
10:51:49AM YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE IT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS SPEEDING
10:51:51AM THROUGH TO GET WHEREVER YOU ARE GOING.
10:51:52AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:51:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:54AM I KNEW OF A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING WHO PASSED AWAY A COUPLE
10:52:01AM OF YEARS AGO NAMED JOSEPH ROBINSON OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:52:05AM I MET HIM WHEN I WAS INVOLVED WITH THAN OVER A DECADE AGO.
10:52:09AM HE TOLD ME SULPHUR SPRINGS IS THE POOREST NEIGHBORHOOD IN
10:52:11AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:52:12AM I ALWAYS REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID.
10:52:15AM I WENT TO A GREAT SOURCE OF INFORMATION ABOUT SULPHUR
10:52:18AM SPRINGS WHICH IS MY MOTHER OR MY GRANDMOTHER BECAUSE THEY
10:52:21AM SPENT SO MUCH TIME THERE IN THE '60s AND 1970s.
10:52:24AM SPENT TIME AT THE TOWER DRIVE-IN, WHICH IS GONE.
10:52:28AM THE K-MART, NO LONGER THERE.
10:52:30AM SULPHUR SPRINGS ARCADE DEMOLISHED AT THE END OF THE 1970s
10:52:33AM AND THEN NORTH GATE SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH IS THERE.
10:52:37AM THERE IS A HOME DEPOT.
10:52:38AM FLORILAND MALL NORTH OF THERE.
10:52:40AM A LOT OF MEMORIES FROM THEIR YOUTH WHEN THEY LIVED IN EAST
10:52:44AM TAMPA -- EVEN WHEN THEY WENT TO WEST TAMPA, THEY SPENT A LOT
10:52:48AM OF TIME ON FLORIDA AND NEBRASKA AVENUE.
10:52:49AM WHAT HAPPENED WAS, IN THEIR OPINION, THE CITY CHANGED.
10:52:54AM THE INTERSTATE CAME THROUGH.
10:52:55AM DID A LOT OF DAMAGE.
10:52:56AM THE SHOPPING MALLS STARTED OPENING UP.
10:52:58AM WESTSHORE MALL AND 67 AND TAMPA BAY CENTER IN '76.
10:53:04AM BUT AS THINGS COME FULL CIRCLE, THE MALLS ARE DYING.
10:53:07AM TAMPA BAY CENTER IS NOT THERE.
10:53:08AM WESTSHORE MALL IS SLOWLY BECOMING MORE AND MORE EMPTY
10:53:12AM BECAUSE I GO THERE PRETTY OFTEN.
10:53:14AM PEOPLE ARE GOING BACK TO THE URBAN CORE.
10:53:16AM THE ATTENTION IS BEING FOCUSED ON THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:53:20AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT YBOR CITY.
10:53:22AM YBOR CITY 40 YEARS AGO WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
10:53:24AM DOWNTOWN 20 YEARS AGO TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
10:53:27AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS 30 YEARS AGO TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
10:53:30AM THESE AREAS HAVE ALL COME BACK.
10:53:32AM WE CAN USE THAT IN ANY COMMUNITY.
10:53:36AM EAST TAMPA, THE LARGEST CRA, THEN YOU HAVE SULPHUR SPRINGS
10:53:39AM OUTSIDE OF THE CRA.
10:53:40AM BUT THESE ARE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN IGNORED AND FORGOTTEN
10:53:46AM BECAUSE OF CHANGES THAT HAVE COME AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO.
10:53:49AM PEOPLE FLOCK TO THE SHOPPING MALLS.
10:53:51AM PEOPLE FLOCK TO THE SUBURBAN AREAS.
10:53:54AM THEY LEFT THAT URBAN CORE AND NOW THEY ARE COMING BACK TO
10:53:57AM THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:53:58AM I TALKED YOUR EAR OFF THE OTHER DAY WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS
10:54:01AM AND I COULD TALK FOR ANOTHER HOUR ABOUT IT.
10:54:03AM I SAID THAT I HOPE THE NEXT MAYOR, BECAUSE THIS TERM IS
10:54:06AM COMING AT THE END AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ELECTIONS AND
10:54:09AM EVERYTHING, THAT THEY TALK ABOUT THE AREAS OF THE CITY THAT
10:54:12AM HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN.
10:54:13AM THERE HAVE BEEN PROJECTS IN THE PAST THAT HAVE MADE IMPACTS,
10:54:16AM BUT WE NEED SOMETHING ON A GRANDEUR SCALE.
10:54:19AM WE'VE SEEN THE GROWTH OF WATER STREET.
10:54:22AM I KNEW THE MAN THAT OWNED A LOT OF THE PROPERTY OF WHERE
10:54:25AM WATER STREET IS AT TODAY.
10:54:27AM IT WAS JUST -- THIS IS 25 YEARS AGO.
10:54:29AM WE WERE SO IMPRESSED WE OWNS ALL THESE LOTS, ALL THIS LAND
10:54:33AM DOWNTOWN, BUT NOTHING WAS HAPPENING.
10:54:36AM THAT ESTATE SOLD PROPERTY TO WHAT IS NOW THE VINIK GROUP AND
10:54:40AM WATER STREET.
10:54:41AM I WISH THAT MAN WERE ALIVE TODAY.
10:54:43AM DIED 15 YEARS AGO, HE COULD SEE, HEY, LOOK AT WHAT YOU USED
10:54:48AM TO HAVE.
10:54:48AM LOOK AT WHAT IT HAS BECOME.
10:54:50AM I THINK IT CAN APPLY ANYWHERE.
10:54:53AM I THINK IN THE NEXT ELECTIONS THAT WE HAVE CANDIDATES OR WE
10:54:57AM HAVE A MAYOR THAT SAYS LET'S FOCUS -- WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL
10:55:01AM IN SO MANY PARTS, THE RIVERWALK, DOWNTOWN, EVERYTHING I
10:55:06AM MENTIONED.
10:55:07AM CAN WE EXPAND ON THAT? THE MAYOR IS THE BIGGEST CHEERLEADER
10:55:11AM FOR THE CITY.
10:55:11AM THE CITY COUNCIL IS HERE.
10:55:13AM WE ARE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY.
10:55:14AM WE TRY TO PROVIDE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES, BUT TO TALK TO
10:55:18AM PEOPLE -- IT'S NOT ABOUT GENTRIFYING AND PUTTING PEOPLE OUT.
10:55:22AM WE WANT TO REINVEST IN THE COMMUNITIES AND LIFT THEM UP.
10:55:26AM I TALKED TO A GROUP YEARS AGO AND I ACTUALLY GOT BOOED.
10:55:31AM I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA.
10:55:33AM I WANT THE REST OF THE CITY TO HAVE WHAT WE HAVE.
10:55:36AM I WANT A STRONG MIDDLE CLASS.
10:55:38AM I WANT ACCESSIBILITY TO BASIC SERVICES, RESTAURANTS, FOOD,
10:55:42AM FRESH FOOD.
10:55:43AM THAT IS A BIG DISCUSSION THAT CAME UP IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:55:45AM WE WERE AT A CANDIDATE FORUM, I REMEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER
10:55:49AM HURTAK WAS THERE WITH ME, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS
10:55:51AM TO FRESH FOOD.
10:55:53AM YOU HAVE A WALMART NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY RIGHT THERE AT
10:55:56AM FLORIDA AND BUSCH AND THEN BEYOND THAT, YOU HAVE THE WALMART
10:56:02AM ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE CLOSE TO 15th.
10:56:04AM YOU HAVE THE WINN DIXIE AT NEBRASKA AND MLK, BUT YOU HAVE A
10:56:09AM BARREN AREA.
10:56:10AM THEY CALL THEM FOOD DESERTS.
10:56:12AM THERE ARE OTHER NAMES TO APPLY TO THAT.
10:56:14AM SULPHUR SPRINGS DOESN'T HAVE WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY
10:56:16AM HAS.
10:56:17AM AND THAT APPLIES TO GOING EVEN FURTHER EAST, ALL THE WAY TO
10:56:21AM THE CITY LIMITS.
10:56:22AM BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS.
10:56:24AM THE REST OF THE CITY IS FLOURISHING IN SOME DEGREE OR
10:56:29AM CAPACITY.
10:56:29AM BUT SULPHUR SPRINGS SPECIFICALLY AND EAST TAMPA IN GENERAL,
10:56:33AM THEY ARE FROZEN IN TIME.
10:56:34AM AGAIN, MY MOTHER WILL TELL YOU, WHERE SHE WENT IN THE '60s
10:56:37AM AND '70s, THEY ARE EITHER NOT THERE OR THE BUILDINGS ARE
10:56:40AM THERE BUT THE SERVICES, THE INVESTMENT IS NOT THERE WHILE
10:56:45AM THE REST OF THE CITY HAS GROWN.
10:56:47AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:48AM I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR OCTOBER 30th PRESENTATION.
10:56:52AM I KNOW WE SHOULD BE WAITING FOR THIS UNTIL THEN.
10:56:55AM YES, SIR.
10:56:56AM THEN COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:00AM >>EVAN JOHNSON: JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS AND I
10:57:02AM APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL.
10:57:03AM YES, WE ALL TALKED SEPARATELY OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
10:57:07AM ONE WAS, YOU MENTIONED THE FOOD ACCESS.
10:57:11AM I WAS REMISS AND I DIDN'T MENTION THE FACT THAT THIS WHOLE
10:57:15AM EFFORT HAS BEEN REALLY SINCE THE BEGINNING FOCUSED ON
10:57:18AM COLLABORATION INTERNALLY WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE
10:57:21AM ORGANIZATION.
10:57:22AM SO WE'RE WORKING WITH ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AS THEY WORK ON
10:57:25AM THEIR FOOD ACCESS PROGRAM WHICH IS VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON
10:57:29AM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:57:29AM SO WE'RE IN CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH THEM AS WELL.
10:57:32AM I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, YES, THIS WILL
10:57:34AM BE A FRAMEWORK, YES, A ROAD MAP AS WE GET TO THE END THAT
10:57:39AM HOPEFULLY CAN BE AN INVESTMENT STRATEGY, HELP GUIDE THE
10:57:42AM INVESTMENT STRATEGY.
10:57:42AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR THINGS WE CAN DO NOW.
10:57:44AM GOOD EXAMPLES ARE MOBILITY HAS BEEN VERY EXPENSIVE TO OUR
10:57:48AM DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AND SO
10:57:52AM FORTH. I SEE THINGS COMING BEFORE THE PROJECT IS OVER,
10:57:56AM HOPEFULLY, THAT ARE FIXES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO PEOPLE.
10:57:59AM SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THAT WAY BECAUSE I THINK
10:58:04AM THIS IS THE TIME WHERE EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, MOST OF
10:58:06AM THE FOLKS ARE GETTING ENGAGED.
10:58:08AM IT IS A GREAT CHANCE TO LEARN ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
10:58:11AM ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A
10:58:14AM DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POOL AND THE COMMUNITY IS VERY FOCUSED
10:58:17AM ON IT, OF COURSE.
10:58:19AM I DO WANT TO SAY I HAVE BEEN AND WE HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT
10:58:22AM IMPRESSED WITH THE PARKS AND REC STAFF AT THE COMMUNITY
10:58:24AM CENTERS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:58:26AM THEY REALLY ARE DOING GOD'S WORK, TAKING CARE OF THE
10:58:29AM CHILDREN AND THE FACILITIES ARE FANTASTIC.
10:58:31AM SO I JUST -- THEY HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT HELPFUL IN OUR WORK
10:58:35AM DOWN THERE AS WE ENGAGE WITH FOLKS AND USE THEIR FACILITIES.
10:58:38AM JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
10:58:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY FAST, IF I MAY.
10:58:43AM MY VISION FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS IS TO CONNECT IT TO NORTH
10:58:49AM TAMPA.
10:58:50AM IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT COPELAND PARK, TERRACE
10:58:54AM PARK OFF BUSCH BOULEVARD, TAKE A LOOK AT OVERLOOK COMMUNITY,
10:58:58AM THERE IS A LOT OF WORKING CLASS HOUSEHOLDS THERE, LOWER
10:59:03AM INCOME HOUSEHOLDS THERE, SOME MIDDLE CLASS AND SO FORTH.
10:59:07AM SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE CAN DO BETTER WITH SULPHUR SPRINGS WITH
10:59:11AM 70% CHILD POVERTY.
10:59:12AM I THINK CONNECTING IT, SO TO SPEAK TO THE LIFESTYLE THAT
10:59:18AM COMMUNITIES HAVE IS NOT AN UNREASONABLE ASK.
10:59:21AM IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT A CRA, HYPOTHETICAL TYPE OF A DEAL,
10:59:24AM THE RESULT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING LIKE CHANNELSIDE.
10:59:26AM IT WOULD BE EAST TAMPA.
10:59:28AM RESIDENTS I THINK WOULD BE PROUD OF THEIR CRA AND EVERYTHING
10:59:32AM LIKE THAT.
10:59:33AM WITH REGARDS TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET,
10:59:36AM I BELIEVE I HAVE A MOTION THAT'S COMING UP WHERE THE
10:59:39AM ADMINISTRATION IS TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT ITEMS ARE IN THE BUDGET
10:59:43AM FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT THAT.
10:59:46AM SUPPOSED TO BE A RECURRING MOTION, SO THAT SHOULD BE COMING
10:59:50AM UP.
10:59:50AM I'M GLAD THAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN MENTIONED OUR FRIENDS IN
10:59:53AM PALMETTO BEACH.
10:59:55AM YEAH, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME ACTION OR SOMETHING FOR THOSE
10:59:59AM FOLKS.
11:00:00AM DURING HELENE AND BEFORE MILTON I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE.
11:00:05AM THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE THERE.
11:00:07AM A LOT OF GOOD FOLKS THERE.
11:00:08AM THAT'S ALL.
11:00:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND --
11:00:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS MY LAST.
11:00:12AM I THINK SULPHUR SPRINGS GOT AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO
11:00:15AM REALLY TAKE OFF.
11:00:16AM IT'S SITTING IN A PERFECT LOCATION.
11:00:19AM IT NEEDS ONE THING -- OPPORTUNITY FOR JOBS.
11:00:23AM YOU CAN'T HAVE JOBS UNLESS YOU HAVE INDUSTRY WITHIN WALKING
11:00:26AM DISTANCE.
11:00:27AM THAT'S WHAT MADE YBOR CITY IN THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END
11:00:29AM OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT MADE YBOR CITY COME BACK, WHEN THE
11:00:33AM PEOPLE CAME BACK TO LIVE THERE, EVERYTHING WENT UP, NO
11:00:36AM MATTER WHERE IT WAS, FOOD INDUSTRY, BEVERAGE BUSINESS.
11:00:40AM I THINK SULPHUR SPRINGS CAN DO THAT IF WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES
11:00:44AM FOR JOBS AND BRING INDUSTRIES THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS
11:00:47AM WORKING ON WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS, MAYBE TRY TO SWAY, THIS
11:00:52AM ADMINISTRATION, ANY GOVERNMENT OR ANYONE HERE CAN DO THAT IF
11:00:55AM WE KNOW SOMEBODY WANTS TO RELOCATE, SULPHUR SPRINGS,
11:00:59AM OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A JOB FORCE READY AND WILLING TO WORK
11:01:03AM CLOSE BY WITHOUT TRANSPORTATION.
11:01:04AM THAT IS THE KEY.
11:01:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:06AM I TALKED TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU
11:01:08AM TOLD US.
11:01:09AM THANK YOU.
11:01:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAS THERE ANY MOTION?
11:01:10AM IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POOL AND THEN
11:01:14AM WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:01:15AM MRS. WYNN WILL DISCUSS THE POOL, AND THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP
11:01:15AM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:01:24AM WE HAVE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS STARTING WITH ROBIN
11:01:26AM LOCKETT, CONNIE BURTON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:01:34AM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
11:01:34AM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
11:01:35AM ABOUT THE POOL, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION
11:01:36AM ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE POOL, KEEP IT CLOSED,
11:01:38AM OR WHATEVER, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT BEFORE ANY DECISION CAN
11:01:43AM BE MADE IN TERMS OF REPAIR, REBUILD, THE FIRST THING WE HAVE
11:01:47AM TO FOCUS ON IS REPAIRING THE SEAWALL.
11:01:51AM REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE END UP, THE SEAWALL MUST BE REPAIRED
11:01:54AM AND THAT'S THE ATTENTION THAT WE ARE GIVING TO THE POOL AT
11:01:58AM THIS POINT IN TIME.
11:01:59AM WE CONSULTED WITH SEVERAL CONTRACTORS, LOOKED AT CONTRACTORS
11:02:09AM REPORTS AND THEY ARE ALL OF THE SAME MINDSET THAT IS THE
11:02:14AM FIRST STEP THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
11:02:15AM ONCE WE UNDERSTAND HOW EXTENSIVE THAT REPAIR IS, WE WILL BE
11:02:23AM BETTER POSITIONED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE
11:02:27AM AND HOW LONG THOSE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO TAKE.
11:02:30AM WE'RE LOOKING AT STARTING THE SEAWALL REPAIR WITHIN THE NEXT
11:02:37AM TWO MONTHS.
11:02:38AM WE HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, IF
11:02:43AM THERE ARE NO HICCUPS, IT WILL BE IN SHORT ORDER.
11:02:46AM THE REPAIRS ARE SO EXTENSIVE, I DO NOT ANTICIPATE IT WILL BE
11:02:52AM COMPLETE OVER THE SUMMER.
11:02:53AM I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
11:02:54AM IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST
11:03:00AM TIME.
11:03:00AM AFTER THE CONTRACTORS GET IN, WE'LL KNOW BETTER.
11:03:05AM I CAN COME AND REPORT SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE IN TERMS OF
11:03:09AM THE POOL AND THE PROCESS AND ALL OF THAT.
11:03:12AM WHERE WE ARE GOING FORWARD.
11:03:16AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, AS YOU ALWAYS DO AND THANK YOU FOR THIS,
11:03:21AM YOU BRING UP CONCERNS ABOUT THE KIDS AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING
11:03:24AM TO DO OVER THE SUMMER AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM
11:03:28AM OCCUPIED.
11:03:31AM AS YOU ARE AWARE OR EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT, LAST YEAR, WE HAD A
11:03:36AM SHUTTLE SERVICE TO TAKE THE KIDS FROM SULPHUR SPRINGS TO
11:03:39AM COPELAND PARK.
11:03:41AM WE WILL ENTERTAIN THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR TO SEE THE LEVEL OF
11:03:45AM INTEREST.
11:03:46AM IT WAS NOT HIGHLY USED LAST YEAR.
11:03:51AM SO IF IT'S NOT USED THIS YEAR, WE ARE GOING TO BE MORE
11:03:57AM CONSIDERATE OF CITY RESOURCES AND HAVING A SHUTTLE SHOW UP
11:04:01AM AND NO ONE APPEARS.
11:04:02AM ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE HAVE THE
11:04:06AM SPRINGHILL PARK THAT HAS A SPLASH PAD, WHICH IS SAFER ACCESS
11:04:13AM THAN CROSSING NEBRASKA TO SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:04:18AM WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN REACTIVATE THAT PARK TO
11:04:22AM ACCOMMODATE MORE HOURS THAT WILL ALLOW ACCESS FOR THE
11:04:26AM STUDENTS OR FOR THE KIDS OR FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:04:29AM WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN MAKE THE SPLASH PAD EVEN
11:04:35AM BIGGER, EVEN LARGER.
11:04:36AM SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS TO ALLOW THOSE KIDS TO
11:04:41AM HAVE SOMETHING TO DO OVER THE SUMMER.
11:04:43AM THIS INCLUDES WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS LIKE COMMUNITY
11:04:48AM STEPPING STONES.
11:04:50AM WE'RE WORKING WITH THE Y AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AS WELL
11:04:53AM SO THAT WE CAN -- AGAIN, WE'RE NOT DOING THESE ONE-OFFS, BUT
11:04:57AM WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS COMPREHENSIVELY SO THAT WE ALL CAN
11:05:01AM JUST PROVIDE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, IF IT'S ARTS, IF ITS SPLASH
11:05:08AM PADS OR SOMETHING ELSE, WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT OUT.
11:05:13AM WE HAVE A CENTER THAT WAS JUST BROUGHT ONLINE, WHICH IS
11:05:20AM BARTHOLOMEW CENTER.
11:05:21AM WE WILL BE ACTIVATING THAT AND REACTIVATING THAT FOR THE
11:05:25AM SENIORS AND MORE THINGS FOR THE KIDS TO DO AS WELL.
11:05:28AM THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO COMMUNICATE ON THE POOL.
11:05:33AM MIAMI HERE TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:05:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK, BEFORE I GO TO HURTAK AND
11:05:39AM HENDERSON, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T FIX THE SEAWALL BECAUSE OF
11:05:43AM THE POSITIONING OF THAT POOL, IT'S NEVER GOING TO GET FIXED
11:05:46AM RIGHT.
11:05:47AM IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTANT CLOSURE.
11:05:48AM THE SEAWALL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
11:05:50AM IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM AN AERIAL VIEW OR ANY ENGINEER, IF
11:05:53AM ANY ENGINEER WOULD BE, FIRST, WILLING TO TAKE ON THE JOB
11:05:56AM BECAUSE IT'S COMPLICATED, THAT SEAWALL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
11:05:59AM THING, BECAUSE OF THE EROSION, KEEP TRACKING THAT POOL,
11:06:03AM DAMAGING THAT POOL AND WE'RE NEVER GOING TO FIX IT RIGHT.
11:06:06AM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
11:06:07AM THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIMELINE.
11:06:09AM NUMBER TWO, REGARDING THE SPLASH PADS, WHERE MY LIFE AND I
11:06:12AM LIVE WITH OUR 12-YEAR-OLD, OUR POOLS ARE CLOSED.
11:06:15AM IT'S A CONDO ISSUE.
11:06:18AM WE'VE BEEN TAKING HER AND SHE LOVES THE POOL.
11:06:20AM IT IS A SENSORY THING.
11:06:22AM SHE'S AUTISTIC.
11:06:25AM SHE LOVES THE POOL.
11:06:27AM WE'VE BEEN TAKING HER TO JULIAN LANE PARK, WITH THE SPLASH
11:06:32AM PADS, HAPPIER THAN SHE'S BEEN AND THE SPLASH PARKS.
11:06:37AM I DON'T HAVE A KID SCREAMING AT HOME BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET
11:06:39AM IN THE POOL SO WE'RE MAKING USE OF THAT, TOO.
11:06:43AM THE SPLASH PADS AND THOSE AMENITIES ARE VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
11:06:46AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:46AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND HENDERSON.
11:06:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:06:50AM I SPOKE TO YOU BEFORE ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
11:06:53AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION
11:06:56AM ABOUT THE SPLASH PAD IN SPRINGHILL.
11:06:58AM I THINK THAT WILL BE GOOD.
11:07:00AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ASKED ABOUT WAS LAST YEAR, WE DID
11:07:05AM -- THE CITY DID A BIG PUSH FOR NATIONAL SWIM LESSON DAY.
11:07:10AM I WAS HOPING YOU COULD TALK ABOUT MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO FOR
11:07:15AM THE YOUTH IN SULPHUR SPRINGS ON NATIONAL SWIM LESSON DAY.
11:07:23AM >>OCEA WYNN: ABSOLUTELY, I WILL HAPPILY TALK ABOUT THAT.
11:07:26AM PARTICULARLY IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA, WELL, ALL AREAS, I
11:07:29AM DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC STATS.
11:07:32AM BUT THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES ARE THE COMMUNITIES THAT
11:07:35AM HAVE THE HIGHEST INCIDENTS OF DROWNINGS.
11:07:39AM SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO PROVIDE SHUTTLES FROM THOSE, OR
11:07:45AM TRANSPORTATION FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES TO THE NATIONAL SWIM
11:07:49AM DAY, WHICH IS IN JUNE, AND IT WILL BE HELD IN COPELAND PARK.
11:07:53AM WE'LL DO THE SAME THING FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
11:07:57AM WE'LL COMMUNICATE OUT TO EVERYONE TO LET THEM KNOW WHEN IT
11:08:01AM IS AND WE'LL PICK UP, YES, IT IS A TRANSPORT.
11:08:05AM YES, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S
11:08:09AM COMMUNICATED.
11:08:11AM I SHOULD HAVE HAD THE DATES.
11:08:14AM I DON'T.
11:08:14AM I'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S COMMUNICATED OUT.
11:08:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S OKAY.
11:08:17AM I DO APPRECIATE IT.
11:08:20AM ADDITIONALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXPANDED PARTNERSHIPS THAT
11:08:24AM YOU HAVE.
11:08:24AM SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
11:08:26AM THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
11:08:30AM I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU'RE FOCUSING ON THE SEAWALL AND
11:08:32AM THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
11:08:34AM UNFORTUNATELY, I KNOW IT IS A SLOW PROCESS BECAUSE GETTING A
11:08:36AM LOT OF ENGINEERS, JUST DIFFERENT BIDS TO LOOK AT THAT
11:08:40AM SEAWALL, I KNOW IT WAS VERY COMPLICATED.
11:08:42AM IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE POOL THIS
11:08:44AM SUMMER, BUT THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER WAY TO HAVE GONE AROUND
11:08:47AM IT, WE HAVE TO GET THE SEAWALL FIXED.
11:08:50AM I DID WANT TO TAKE THE TIME SINCE I DIDN'T SPEAK EARLIER, I
11:08:53AM WANTED TO PUT ALL MY COMMENTS TOGETHER, THE MOBILITY
11:08:58AM DEPARTMENT JUST TOOK ME, MY AIDE, MS. SCHARF AND I ON A BIKE
11:09:04AM RIDE TO SEE THE GREEN ARTERY SEGMENTS, D AND E, WHICH WILL
11:09:08AM GO AROUND AND NEAR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:09:10AM IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HUG THE RIVER AS IT TURNS.
11:09:15AM THAT'S FROM THE WEST SIDE.
11:09:17AM THEN IT CROSSES THE STREET AT BIRD.
11:09:19AM IT CROSSES FLORIDA AVENUE.
11:09:20AM WE HAD TO BIKE ALONG BIRD AND GO DOWN INTO THE SULPHUR
11:09:24AM SPRINGS PARK.
11:09:25AM HEY, YOU ALL, DO YOU KNOW THERE IS A BOARDWALK UNDER 275 AND
11:09:28AM THEY WERE LIKE, WHAT?
11:09:29AM WE TOOK THE BOARDWALK UNDER 275 AND WE ENDED RIGHT THERE AT
11:09:34AM THE BEAUTIFUL SULPHUR SPRINGS WATER TOWER PARK.
11:09:37AM ALL IT WOULD TAKE IS SOME ASPHALT TO CONNECT IT TO FLORIDA
11:09:41AM AVENUE AND THEN YOU HAVE SO MUCH MORE INTERACTION AND THAT
11:09:44AM IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN USE TO CONNECT TO FLORIDA
11:09:49AM AVENUE A LITTLE BIT MORE SAFER THAN BIRD STREET.
11:09:52AM THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M TALKING TO THE MOBILITY
11:09:54AM DEPARTMENT ABOUT, JUST LIKE MR. JOHNSON SAID EARLIER, THERE
11:09:57AM ARE THINGS WE CAN DO BEFORE WE GET THIS PLAN, AND THAT'S
11:10:01AM HIGH ON MY AGENDA AS THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO.
11:10:04AM NOW, GETTING A CROSSING AT FLORIDA AVENUE IS LIKE ANOTHER
11:10:07AM THING, BECAUSE THAT IS AN F.D.O.T. ROAD.
11:10:10AM BUT, YOU KNOW, START SMALL.
11:10:14AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN CONNECT.
11:10:16AM THE BOARDWALK AROUND THE MANATEES AND THE SPRING ITSELF NEED
11:10:20AM SOME LOVE AND HELP AS WELL.
11:10:21AM THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THIS BODY COULD HELP FUND TO
11:10:26AM HELP THAT CONNECTIVITY AND HELP PEOPLE BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE
11:10:32AM RIVER MORE ON THAT SIDE.
11:10:36AM QUITE FRANKLY, THE MANATEES ARE A BIG DRAW AND THE FACT YOU
11:10:39AM CAN'T GET THEM TO NOW IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS
11:10:41AM UPSET ABOUT.
11:10:42AM BEING ABLE TO OPEN THAT AND THEN THAT FABULOUS SHELTER ON
11:10:51AM THE RIVER, THE PARK SHELTER THAT THE COMMUNITY USES FOR MANY
11:10:56AM EVENTS, BUT ESPECIALLY THE BOAT PARADE IN THE HOLIDAY TIME,
11:11:01AM BUT ALSO JUST THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH COMMUNITY
11:11:05AM STEPPING STONES AND OTHER K-8 SCHOOL, THE NEWLY REOPENED
11:11:11AM COMMUNITY CENTER, JUST THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO
11:11:15AM AND THE SMALLER THINGS IN THE SHORT TERM, WHILE WE WAIT FOR
11:11:18AM THE BIGGER PLAN, I'M JUST REALLY HAPPY TO SEE.
11:11:21AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PLAN.
11:11:26AM I HAD A REALLY WONDERFUL CONVERSATION WITH THE TEAM WORKING
11:11:28AM ON THIS.
11:11:29AM I JUST CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT'S NEXT.
11:11:31AM I'M REALLY GLAD WE'RE FOCUSING ON THIS.
11:11:35AM >>OCEA WYNN: YOU MENTIONED THE BOARDWALK.
11:11:36AM WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REPAIRING THE BOARDWALK NOW.
11:11:39AM THE PROCESS DOES NOT MEAN SOMEONE IS OUT THERE NOW.
11:11:45AM WE'RE GIVING DUE ATTENTION TO IT SO IT WOULD BE REPAIRED IN
11:11:51AM SHORT ORDER AS WE LOOK AT ACTIVATING THE AREA EVEN MORE.
11:11:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU NEED FUNDS, LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE
11:12:01AM DOING THAT NEXT.
11:12:02AM ALSO, WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT, IF THEY WOULDN'T MIND
11:12:06AM LOOKING AT THE FACE UNDER 275, THERE ARE A FEW BOARDS AND
11:12:09AM THINGS THAT COULD USE A LITTLE LOVE.
11:12:10AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GOES FROM ACTUAL WOOD TO BEING LIKE THE
11:12:20AM TRACKS OR WHATEVER -- THANK YOU, THE PLASTIC COMPOSITE --
11:12:25AM THE COMPOSITE DECKING OR WHATEVER THAT WE NEED TO DO UNDER
11:12:29AM 275 TO MAKE THAT WHOLE AS WELL BECAUSE I'M AFRAID AFTER THE
11:12:32AM RAINY SEASON, THAT WOULD NEED REPAIR AS WELL.
11:12:35AM SO THANK YOU.
11:12:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, CLEAN.
11:12:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:12:40AM MS. WYNN, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP THE
11:12:43AM TRANSPORTATION THAT WE PROVIDED AS AN ALTERNATIVE BECAUSE
11:12:46AM SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL WAS NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:12:51AM DO YOU HAVE A FIGURE OF HOW MUCH THAT COSTS?
11:12:53AM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT WAS UNDERUTILIZED.
11:12:58AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A COMMUNICATION THING OR KIDS
11:13:01AM DIDN'T WANT TO RIDE THE TRANSPORTATION TO GO TO A DIFFERENT
11:13:04AM POOL.
11:13:04AM DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COST?
11:13:06AM THAT WASN'T INITIALLY IN OUR BUDGET.
11:13:08AM >>OCEA WYNN: NO, MA'AM, IT WAS NOT.
11:13:11AM NO, MA'AM, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU BUT CAN GET IT
11:13:13AM FOR YOU.
11:13:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: REMEMBER BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT -- WE WERE
11:13:17AM IN BUDGET SEASON, SO THE MAYOR ALLOCATED $1 MILLION TO
11:13:21AM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:13:22AM DO YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT?
11:13:23AM THAT MILLION DOLLARS, WHAT HAPPENED TO IT?
11:13:28AM WAS THAT TO HAVE THE CONTRACTORS?
11:13:31AM DID THAT GO TOWARD THE TRANSPORTATION COSTS POSSIBLY?
11:13:34AM CAN THAT GO TOWARD IMPROVING THE SPLASH PAD RIGHT AWAY SO
11:13:39AM THE KIDS CAN HAVE SOMETHING READILY AVAILABLE AT SPRINGHILL
11:13:44AM PARK BECAUSE THE POOL IS NOT GOING TO BE READY.
11:13:47AM I ALSO APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT.
11:13:49AM I SAID THAT TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:13:52AM BECAUSE OF THE SEAWALL ISSUE, I DON'T WANT THEM TO THINK
11:13:55AM THIS IS, OH, LET'S PUT A BAND-AID ON IT.
11:13:58AM IT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE.
11:14:00AM AND THE HARD PART FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR IS THAT WE MAY
11:14:04AM NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
11:14:07AM I KNOW THAT IS A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW, BUT IT MAY BE TRUE
11:14:11AM BECAUSE OF THE SEAWALL ISSUE.
11:14:12AM I DON'T KNOW THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S WILLING TO TACKLE IT.
11:14:17AM YOU SAID SEVERAL CONTRACTORS LOOKED AT IT.
11:14:19AM ARE YOU WILLING TO TELL US, DID THEY EXPRESS INTEREST OR
11:14:23AM THIS IS OUT OF THEIR SCOPE OF WHAT THEY DO?
11:14:27AM >>OCEA WYNN: WELL, WE HAD THE CONSULTANTS, LET'S JUST SAY
11:14:30AM THE CONSULTANTS LOOKED AT IT, JUST TO LET US KNOW HOW BAD.
11:14:35AM SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS,
11:14:39AM AGAIN, NOT JUST PUTTING A BAND-AID, BUT WE HAVE ENOUGH EYES
11:14:43AM ON IT TO SEE WHERE THE ISSUE IS.
11:14:48AM EVEN AFTER WE REPAIR IT, WE DON'T WANT A SITUATION WHERE IN
11:14:51AM FIVE YEARS WE HAVE TO GO REPAIR IT -- RE-REPAIR IT BECAUSE
11:14:56AM IT WAS SOMETHING WE DID NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE
11:14:58AM FIRST TIME.
11:14:58AM WE HAD THE CONSULTANTS COME IN AND JUST TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS
11:15:03AM WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
11:15:05AM SO, NO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I'M NOT PREPARED BECAUSE I
11:15:08AM DON'T HAVE THAT.
11:15:09AM BUT I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
11:15:10AM I DO KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY THAT THEY ALL CAME IN.
11:15:15AM SOME WERE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AREAS SO THAT WHEN WE DO MAKE
11:15:20AM THE REPAIR, WE ARE ONE AND DONE.
11:15:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT THE MAYOR
11:15:26AM REQUESTED IN THE BUDGET FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS, WE CAN TAKE A
11:15:32AM LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF POSSIBLY THE ALTERNATIVE OF
11:15:34AM SPRINGHILL PARK AND MAKING THE SPLASH PAD IMPROVEMENTS
11:15:37AM BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT IN THE BUDGET, RIGHT, FOR YOU TO DO
11:15:41AM SOMETHING WITH SPRINGHILL PARK IN TERMS OF A SPLASH PAD.
11:15:44AM >>OCEA WYNN: NO, MA'AM, NOT IN THE BUDGET.
11:15:46AM YES, WE'LL LOOK AT IT TO SEE WHERE THE FUNDING IS.
11:15:51AM IT'S THERE, BUT WHERE IT IS AND WHAT HAS BEEN -- YOU ASKED
11:15:54AM IF IT WAS USED FOR THE CONSULTANTS, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE
11:15:57AM IF THAT WAS THE CASE, YES.
11:15:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE -- I
11:16:02AM DON'T WANT TO SAY HURRIED, BUT IT WAS AN ADDED LINE ITEM TO
11:16:06AM THE BUDGET AND NOT NECESSARILY WELL DEFINED.
11:16:11AM IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING TO THE
11:16:13AM PUBLIC, SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL IS NOT GOING TO BE READY.
11:16:16AM THE ALTERNATIVE OF A SPLASH PAD WHICH IS VERY SUCCESSFUL
11:16:20AM OVER HERE AT -- WHAT IS THE PARK RIGHT HERE IN MY
11:16:25AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:16:25AM YEAH, THAT ONE.
11:16:26AM I SEE KIDS THERE ALL THE TIME.
11:16:30AM GOOD ALTERNATIVE FOR PARENTS TO DO THAT AND KEEPS THEM ON
11:16:32AM THAT SIDE FOR SAFETY REASONS, TRANSPORTATION REASONS, KEEPS
11:16:36AM THEM ON THAT SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:16:37AM THANK YOU.
11:16:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOSH, WHERE DO I START?
11:16:42AM YOU ARE AN INCREDIBLE PUBLIC SERVANT.
11:16:47AM I THINK YOU DO SUCH AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
11:16:50AM YOU ARE ABLE TO BALANCE THINGS LIKE I NEVER MET ANYBODY BE
11:16:55AM ABLE TO BALANCE WITH YOUR PORTFOLIO.
11:16:58AM ABSOLUTELY TREMENDOUS.
11:16:59AM I COULD NOT POUR ENOUGH PRAISE ON YOU FOR YOUR JOB.
11:17:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:17:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION FOR YOU.
11:17:06AM I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, CITY EMPLOYEES, SEE, WE DO COMPLIMENT --
11:17:10AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:17:13AM IT'S NOT ALWAYS ATTACKS.
11:17:14AM THE TOWER PARK, WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM PLANS FOR THAT?
11:17:20AM IT IS SUCH AN UNDERUTILIZED PIECE OF PARCEL AND SO WELL
11:17:25AM POSITIONED.
11:17:26AM AGAIN, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THE BOARDWALK THAT GOES
11:17:29AM UNDERNEATH, IF IT WAS IMPROVED FOR ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY,
11:17:33AM IS THERE A LONG-TERM VISION FOR THAT?
11:17:36AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
11:17:36AM THE LONG-TERM VISION IS -- A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:17:41AM FIRST, OUR GUIDANCE IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN.
11:17:46AM THAT TELLS US, INSTRUCTS US ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE
11:17:51AM AREA.
11:17:52AM IF THERE ARE OPTIONS -- IF THE POOL IS NOT AN OPTION.
11:17:58AM WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.
11:18:01AM WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE JUST YET.
11:18:02AM BECAUSE WE JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE CURRENT
11:18:07AM ASSET THAT WE HAVE, REPAIR THE PLACE WHERE WE ARE, OR WHAT
11:18:11AM HAVE YOU, WE DO HAVE OPTIONS THERE.
11:18:13AM WE HAVE TO EXPLORE THEM MORE, THE OUTCOME OF WHERE WE ARE.
11:18:19AM BUT --
11:18:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE ARE SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
11:18:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:18:26AM ARE THERE ANY OTHER PARCELS THAT WE CONTROL OR CAN WE
11:18:31AM CONTROL THAT WOULD BE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED FOR A POOL?
11:18:35AM IF WE REBUILT A POOL, WE COULD PUT IT IN A BETTER LOCATION
11:18:40AM IN THE COMMUNITY?
11:18:42AM >>OCEA WYNN: COUNCIL MEMBER, WE LOOKED AT THAT.
11:18:46AM WE STARTED LOOKING AT WHAT WE COULD DO POSSIBLY IN ROWLETT
11:18:54AM PARK AND OTHER AREAS AS WELL.
11:18:55AM WE ARE EXPLORING THOSE OPTIONS.
11:18:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST SOMETHING THAT GNAWS AT ME,
11:19:01AM INTUITIVELY AND NOT QUANTITATIVELY WITH DATA, WE MAY BE
11:19:06AM DOUBLING DOWN ON A LOSER.
11:19:08AM MAYBE THE BEST PURPOSE OF THE PROPERTY IS RESTORE THE SPRING
11:19:10AM AND TAKE OUT THE SEAWALLS AND RESTORE TO A NATURAL HABITAT
11:19:15AM WITH THE MANATEES AND ALL.
11:19:17AM SINCE WE KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE POOL IS NOT
11:19:19AM NECESSARILY IN THE BEST LOCATION FOR SAFETY AND FOR THE
11:19:23AM NEIGHBORHOOD, IF WE'RE ABLE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY AND BUILD A
11:19:27AM MODERN WORLD-CLASS FACILITY IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, THAT
11:19:31AM MAY BE THE BEST USE OF THIS MONEY.
11:19:33AM AGAIN, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN'T RESTORE WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.
11:19:36AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REBUILDING, I THINK WE SHOULD BUILD BACK
11:19:40AM BETTER AND FIND A BETTER PLACE FOR IT THAT WOULD BE MORE
11:19:43AM ACCESSIBLE TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE KIDS THAT
11:19:47AM WALK TO AND FROM THIS PARCEL.
11:19:49AM DID I JUST LOSE MY MIND?
11:19:57AM DID I WANDER OFF INTO SOMEWHERE?
11:20:00AM THOSE ARE MY ONLY THOUGHTS.
11:20:03AM JUST EXPRESSING WHAT WAS BOUNCING AROUND IN MY HEAD.
11:20:08AM I THINK WE SHOULDN'T GET VAPOR LOCKED ON ONE SOLUTION.
11:20:13AM I KNOW YOU ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN
11:20:15AM LOOKING AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, EVEN WITH THIS
11:20:18AM PARTICULAR SUMMER COMING UP THAT YOU'RE EXPLORING THE YMCA
11:20:24AM AND OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO KEEP KIDS ENGAGING KIDS IN SPORTS,
11:20:28AM MAYBE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES IN SOME OF THE PARKS AND ACTIVATING
11:20:31AM SOME ACTIVITIES TO KEEP KIDS' MINDS AND BODIES ACTIVE.
11:20:39AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
11:20:40AM TO SUPPORT WHAT WE DID LAST SUMMER, WE PARTNERED WITH HART.
11:20:45AM AND IF ANY KID USED THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, USED THE CITY
11:20:51AM BUSES AND WERE COMING INTO OUR PARKS, WE HAD A PARTNERSHIP
11:20:54AM WITH A RIDE FOR FREE AND THEY COME IN FOR FREE AS WELL.
11:20:57AM SO WE LOOKED AT -- WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS AS BROADLY
11:21:02AM AS POSSIBLE, YES.
11:21:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
11:21:05AM THANK YOU.
11:21:05AM APPRECIATE IT.
11:21:06AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
11:21:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE NOW IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:21:09AM ROBIN LOCKETT, CONNIE BURTON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:21:12AM NO?
11:21:13AM MS. BURTON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND STEPHANIE POYNOR
11:21:18AM IS THE LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.
11:21:19AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
11:21:26AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:21:27AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:21:27AM CONNIE BURTON.
11:21:29AM I WANT TO START OUT BY SAYING THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF
11:21:35AM WORLDWIDE LEADER, RELIGIOUS PERSON POPE FRANCIS TO BE
11:21:44AM IDENTIFIED AS A SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE.
11:21:46AM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR ROLE.
11:21:49AM NOT KNOWN AS A DICTATOR OR STRONG FORM OF MAYOR, ANYTHING
11:21:54AM LIKE THAT, BUT HAD A WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.
11:21:58AM SO I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU -- IN YOUR ROLE, IN YOUR
11:22:06AM CAPACITY OF SAYING NOT KNOWING CERTAIN THINGS, THAT THE
11:22:09AM COMMUNITY CAN SEE THE TRANSFORMATION OF THINGS ONCE GIVEN TO
11:22:14AM THE COMMUNITY ARE TOLD IT WAS THE COMMUNITY, TO NOW SEE
11:22:17AM CERTAIN PARKS AND FACILITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE ALMOST
11:22:22AM GONE INTO APARTHEID STATE.
11:22:24AM THEY HAVE.
11:22:25AM TO HEAR NOW ONE OF YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYING, HEY, WE HAVE
11:22:29AM THE POWER TO SET ASIDE THIS MONEY RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN MAKE
11:22:33AM THINGS BETTER, I WANT TO SEE THE REACTION FROM THAT.
11:22:38AM BUT THEN TO KNOW IN CERTAIN BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES, YOU
11:22:41AM HAVE PEOPLE LIVING BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL IN 2025, THEN YOU
11:22:45AM CAN HOLD UP WATER STREET AND ALL THESE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT
11:22:48AM THE CRA DID FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES, BUT IN EAST TAMPA, THAT
11:22:52AM IS THE FIRST, GO AND TAKE YOUR LAST MEMORY PICTURE OF SAYING
11:22:57AM A JOB WELL DONE, RIGHT AT EAST TAMPA.
11:23:01AM BECAUSE BEFORE YOU HAD THE CRAs, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAD,
11:23:04AM COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT MONEY.
11:23:06AM YOU KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY WENT?
11:23:08AM TO SPECIALIZED NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:23:09AM I'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO SEE, I SEE THE HANDPRINT
11:23:15AM THAT HAS LEFT THIS COMMUNITY.
11:23:16AM WHY I'M REALLY HERE TODAY IS 70% OF EVEN IN SULPHUR SPRINGS
11:23:24AM AND UNDER THE UNITED NATION, YOUNG PEOPLE IDENTIFIED, YOUTH
11:23:29AM IDENTIFIED BETWEEN THE AGE OF 15 AND 24.
11:23:32AM I AIN'T HEARD NOTHING EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE CHILDREN WILL DO
11:23:35AM FOR THE SUMMER.
11:23:37AM FILLING UP THE JUVENILE FACILITY, SOME OF THEM CAUSE MAJOR
11:23:41AM CHAOS.
11:23:42AM GET IN FRONT OF IT SOMETIME, NOT AFTER THE FACT, NOT AFTER
11:23:46AM WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BIG BLOWUP IN YBOR CITY, THEN YOU HAVE
11:23:50AM SOME PLANS ON HOW YOU CAN REDUCE CRIMES.
11:23:53AM HAVING MORE POLICE IN OUR COMMUNITY DO NOT REDUCE CRIME.
11:23:57AM OPPORTUNITIES IS WHAT REDUCE CRIME.
11:23:59AM HERE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN WITH THE SUMMER YOUTH
11:24:03AM PROGRAM THAT EAST TAMPA HAD THE MONEY.
11:24:07AM MS. WYNN DIDN'T NEED -- THIS WOMAN WEARING A THOUSAND HATS.
11:24:12AM BUT IN EAST TAMPA BUDGET, THERE WAS MONEY SET ASIDE FOR A
11:24:15AM COORDINATOR TO HELP WITH 72 YOUNG PEOPLE THAT COULD HAVE HAD
11:24:21AM A JOB.
11:24:21AM YOU LANDED AT 48.
11:24:24AM HOW MANY CHILDREN FROM SULPHUR SPRINGS IS GOING TO BE PART
11:24:27AM OF THAT 48?
11:24:29AM PROBABLY NONE.
11:24:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:24:33AM NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR AND THEN AMY SCOTT DID SIGN
11:24:37AM UP.
11:24:38AM I HAD TO REFRESH MY iPAD.
11:24:40AM THAT WILL CLOSE OUT ITEM NUMBER 3.
11:24:42AM AMY SCOTT IS ALSO SIGNED UP FOR ITEM NUMBER 4 AS WELL.
11:24:49AM MS. POYNOR, GO AHEAD.
11:24:57AM >> PUT THIS ON THE OVERHEAD.
11:24:58AM IT IS BIG.
11:24:59AM MY FRIEND ADAM MADE IT FOR ME.
11:25:01AM SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS, MY FRIEND ADAM
11:25:04AM HARDEN WHO HAS PROPERTY UP THERE HAD ME UP THERE WITH
11:25:07AM CHARLIE ADAMS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
11:25:10AM HE POINTED OUT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO SECTIONS,
11:25:13AM SECTION D AND E OF THE GREEN ARTERY, THOSE TWO GO TOGETHER,
11:25:20AM BUT THEY LEFT OUT SULPHUR SPRINGS ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.
11:25:24AM WHAT THE WHAT?
11:25:25AM WHY?
11:25:26AM SO HE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY.
11:25:29AM HE ASKED, SO I TOLD HIM I WOULD SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
11:25:33AM I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE NEGLECTED THIS PART OF
11:25:37AM THE CITY FOR THE ARTERY.
11:25:38AM JUST SAYING.
11:25:39AM I ALSO GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM MY FRIEND MR. KEEPORTS THIS
11:25:44AM MORNING, THERE WAS $1.9 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR THE POOL
11:25:47AM REPAIR BETWEEN FY '2019 AND FY '23.
11:25:51AM PARKS AND REC IS TRYING TO GET A NEW CONTRACT IN PLACE TO
11:25:57AM FINALIZE THE FUNDS.
11:25:58AM THERE WAS A NICE GENTLEMAN NAMED RONALD GIOVELLI.
11:26:03AM I FORWARDED STUFF TO YOU GUYS.
11:26:05AM HE SENT THAT IN.
11:26:06AM I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- I'M GLAD THAT MS. WYNN SPOKE
11:26:12AM TODAY TO THE POOL BECAUSE I THINK WAITING UNTIL OCTOBER IS
11:26:16AM ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.
11:26:18AM IF YOU'RE GONNA ADVERTISE OTHER PLACES, YOU HAVE ALL THAT
11:26:22AM FENCING RIGHT THERE ON NEBRASKA.
11:26:24AM GET SOME BIG BANNER SIGNS AND PUT THEM ON THE FENCE.
11:26:27AM HERE IS THE WAY TO GO.
11:26:29AM FREE BUS RIDE.
11:26:30AM IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH HART AND I THINK HART WORKING WITH
11:26:33AM THE CITY FOR FREE BUS FARE TO A PARKS AND REC FACILITY IS
11:26:37AM THE WAY TO GET OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WORKING.
11:26:41AM WHEN I LIVED IN LOUISVILLE, MY KIDS, MY MIDDLE SCHOOLERS ALL
11:26:45AM RODE THE BUSES EVERYWHERE.
11:26:46AM EVERY TIME THAT A KID WOULD STAY AFTER SCHOOL, THEY GOT A
11:26:51AM TICKET FREE TO GO HOME.
11:26:52AM SO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SUPPORTED THE BUS SYSTEM.
11:26:55AM I THINK THAT IS A WONDERFUL WAY FOR OUR CITY TO MOVE FORWARD
11:26:59AM IN GETTING KIDS ON PUBLIC TRANSIT BECAUSE THEY WILL DRAG
11:27:02AM THEIR PARENTS RIGHT ALONG WITH THEM.
11:27:04AM IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE, YOU GET KIDS ON BOARD, THEY'LL
11:27:08AM DRAG THEIR PARENTS RIGHT ALONG WITH THEM.
11:27:10AM DON'T WANT ANYBODY SMOKING, A KID WILL TELL YOU, WHY ARE YOU
11:27:14AM SMOKING?
11:27:14AM THAT'S NASTY.
11:27:15AM IF YOU TEACH A KID SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD FOR THE
11:27:18AM ENVIRONMENT, THEY ARE GOING TO TELL YOU THAT YOU SHOULD
11:27:20AM START DOING THAT BECAUSE KIDS HAVE NO FILTERS, JUST LIKE ME.
11:27:23AM BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS SAW THIS.
11:27:27AM WE NEED TO ACTIVATE THIS PARK.
11:27:30AM TRUST ME, I'M NOT GETTING ON A BICYCLE.
11:27:32AM EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.
11:27:33AM I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.
11:27:34AM MR. HARDEN AND I AGREED THIS WAS A GOOD THING TO BRING
11:27:37AM FORWARD.
11:27:38AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE MR. KEEPORTS' OPINIONS WERE SENT TO
11:27:43AM YOU GUYS AND THE GUYS DOING THE WORK BECAUSE ALL OF OUR
11:27:46AM NEIGHBORS CAN'T COME AND HANG OUT ALL DAY LIKE I DO.
11:27:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:50AM AMY SCOTT IS OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.
11:27:52AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
11:27:54AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:27:55AM >> AMY SCOTT.
11:27:57AM I HAD NOT PLANNED TO SPEAK BUT I HEARD SOMETHING THAT
11:28:00AM SPARKED MY CURIOSITY.
11:28:01AM I AM ACTUALLY PART OF THE SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CIVIC
11:28:03AM ASSOCIATION.
11:28:05AM WHEN WE MENTIONED THE SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL MAYBE NEEDING
11:28:09AM ANOTHER LOCATION, I JUST WANT TO PUT A LITTLE PLUG IN FOR
11:28:11AM THE OLD ANGUS GOSS PARK WHICH USED TO HAVE A POOL.
11:28:16AM IT WOULD BE A GREAT ALTERNATIVE.
11:28:17AM IT'S NEAR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:28:18AM THERE WAS A POOL THERE.
11:28:19AM THE LIBRARY IS RIGHT THERE.
11:28:20AM THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS THERE.
11:28:22AM HILLSBOROUGH HIGH IS THERE.
11:28:23AM AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUR POOL BACK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:28:27AM THE DEMOGRAPHIC FOR SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, I DON'T KNOW IF
11:28:31AM YOU KNOW, IS SHIFTING.
11:28:33AM WE HAVE ON MY BLOCK ALONE, WE HAVE FOUR INFANTS.
11:28:36AM ALL OF THEM ARE WITHIN ABOUT THREE MONTHS OF EACH OTHER.
11:28:39AM THERE IS SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN KIDS UNDER FIVE WITHIN OUR
11:28:45AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:28:45AM SO IT IS DEFINITELY CHANGING.
11:28:48AM HAVING A POOL IN WALKING DISTANCE FOR EVERYONE WOULD BE
11:28:51AM IDEAL.
11:28:52AM SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T DO WHAT SULPHUR
11:28:56AM SPRINGS DO TO THE -- DUE TO THE SEAWALL, RIVERCREST HAS A
11:29:01AM SEAWALL ISSUE AS WELL, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET OUR PARK
11:29:05AM FINISHED AND WORKING ON IT.
11:29:07AM THANKS TO ADMINISTRATOR WYNN.
11:29:09AM SHE HAS IT ON THE AGENDA.
11:29:11AM THE SEAWALL DOES TAKE TIME.
11:29:14AM MAYBE ANGUS GOSS WOULD BE A GREAT ALTERNATIVE SO OUR AREA
11:29:18AM CAN STILL HAVE A POOL WITHOUT HAVING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO
11:29:21AM CYRUS GREENE OR YBOR.
11:29:22AM THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.
11:29:24AM THANK YOU.
11:29:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:29:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:26AM ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:29:27AM DO WE NEED ANY MOTIONS FOR THIS?
11:29:31AM CONTINUANCE FOR OCTOBER 30, 2025.
11:29:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:29:42AM I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT ON THE STATUS
11:29:45AM OF THE POOL MAYBE COME BACK -- YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY
11:29:51AM OCTOBER, THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER, IF I MAY.
11:29:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WRITTEN REPORT.
11:29:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, WRITTEN.
11:29:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT, THE
11:30:00AM FIRST REGULAR MEETING IN OCTOBER, OCTOBER 9, JUST A STATUS
11:30:05AM UPDATE ON THE POOL.
11:30:07AM TWO MONTHS WERE MENTIONED REGARDING THE SEAWALL AND WHATNOT.
11:30:12AM WE HAVE A MOTION, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:30:14AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:30:15AM AYE.
11:30:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:30:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: THE SECOND ONE, MS. BURTON BROUGHT UP
11:30:20AM SOMETHING ON THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM.
11:30:22AM WE SHOULD MAKE A REQUEST, BECAUSE WE DID BRING UP THE ISSUE
11:30:25AM OF 70% CHILD POVERTY.
11:30:27AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL THINKS ABOUT THIS ABOUT
11:30:32AM ADDITIONALLY FUNDING THAT PROGRAM AND CENTERING IT ON
11:30:36AM SULPHUR SPRINGS FOR THIS SUMMER.
11:30:37AM WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
11:30:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LAST NIGHT I WAS AT AN EVENT AND I SAW
11:30:42AM PRESIDENT YVETTE LEWIS.
11:30:44AM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, ABOUT WHY NOT 72?
11:30:48AM I ALSO SPOKE WITH MS. BURTON AT CHRISTMASTIME REGARDING
11:30:56AM UPPING THE NUMBER TO 72.
11:31:00AM I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
11:31:05AM YVETTE LEWIS HAD MENTIONED YESTERDAY HOW MANY CALLS SHE GOT
11:31:09AM DURING SPRING BREAK WHEN KIDS WERE OUT OF SCHOOL AND THAT
11:31:12AM WAS A WEEK.
11:31:13AM YOU IMAGINE THREE MONTHS IN A SUMMER, ALMOST THREE MONTHS TO
11:31:16AM KEEP KIDS EMPLOYED AND BUSY AND WHATNOT, I WOULD BE
11:31:20AM SUPPORTIVE OF PUSHING FOR THE FUNDING OR GETTING THAT NUMBER
11:31:23AM TO 72.
11:31:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HONESTLY, EVEN 72 IS NOT ENOUGH.
11:31:38AM SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, I'VE
11:31:41AM ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVOCATE OF THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS.
11:31:45AM WHEN I WAS A KID, I WAS A COUNSELOR FOR YOUTH THAT HAD BEEN
11:31:49AM IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW AND I WAS LIKE BIG BROTHER KIND OF
11:31:53AM THING.
11:31:53AM I SEE, THIS IS AN INHERENTLY GOVERNMENT FUNCTION TO BE ABLE
11:31:58AM TO HAVE INTERVENTION INTO YOUNG PEOPLE'S LIVES TO GET THEM
11:32:03AM OFF ON THE RIGHT FOOT.
11:32:05AM I THINK AS MS. BURTON SAID, IN LIEU OF WHAT?
11:32:09AM WE WERE ALL 15.
11:32:10AM WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD, IF I WASN'T BUSY, I WAS IN TROUBLE.
11:32:14AM ESPECIALLY 15, 16-YEAR-OLD BOYS, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
11:32:20AM THEIR BRAINS GO CRAZY AND THINGS HAPPEN.
11:32:22AM WE WANT TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED.
11:32:24AM I'M OLD AND SENILE, I GUESS.
11:32:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
11:32:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW.
11:32:37AM WE SPENT -- I MEAN, I'VE GOT THIS PAGE OF ALL THE SOCIAL
11:32:44AM ACTION FUND MONEY AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS, ORGANIZATIONS
11:32:47AM WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTING FOR DECADES OR MORE THAT PROBABLY WE
11:32:50AM SHOULDN'T BE BECAUSE GIVE THEM A HAND UP AND NOT IN
11:32:53AM PERPETUITY.
11:32:56AM SOME OF THE GROUPS.
11:32:57AM SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE SPENT ON
11:33:00AM POLICING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHY NOT BE PROACTIVE?
11:33:02AM IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED THIS SUMMER.
11:33:06AM WE CAN HELP AND EXPAND A LITTLE BIT THIS SUMMER.
11:33:09AM I THINK AS A LONG-TERM GOAL OF THE CITY, I THINK WE SHOULD
11:33:11AM HAVE A CONSEQUENTIAL SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM.
11:33:15AM IF WE SPEND MORE MONEY ON THAT, MAYBE WE CAN SPEND LESS
11:33:19AM MONEY ON POLICING.
11:33:20AM I THINK THAT IS AN ADMIRABLE GOAL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
11:33:24AM PURSUE.
11:33:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:33:27AM FOR ME, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT HAPPENED WHEN THIS BODY
11:33:33AM BECAME COUNCIL AND CRA BOARD WAS WE VOTED TO MOVE THE EAST
11:33:39AM TAMPA CRA FUNDS, TAKE THE SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM
11:33:43AM OUT OF THE CRA BECAUSE IT'S NOT SLUM AND BLIGHT AND WE PUT
11:33:46AM IT IN ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE.
11:33:49AM FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, THEY PUT IN THE DOLLAR FIGURE OF
11:33:54AM WHAT IT WOULD COST TO EMPLOY THE 40 PLUS KIDS PLUS THE STAFF
11:33:59AM MEMBER.
11:33:59AM SO AT BUDGET TIME, WHEN WE APPROVE THE BUDGET, IT WAS NOT
11:34:07AM 72.
11:34:08AM IT WAS NOT 72.
11:34:09AM IT WAS 45, POSSIBLY ABOUT 45 KIDS.
11:34:12AM SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE TIME TO DO IT.
11:34:15AM I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT MS. BURTON AND OUR COMMUNITY
11:34:19AM MEMBERS ARE SAYING IT SHOULD BE AT 72, BUT THAT WAS THE TIME
11:34:22AM TO DO IT.
11:34:23AM SO WE DIDN'T DO THAT, NOT THAT I WAS OPPOSED TO IT.
11:34:29AM WE MOVED IT INTO ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE BUT AT THE NUMBER 45.
11:34:33AM THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED.
11:34:34AM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE LANDED ON 72 BEING AN EXACT NUMBER WHICH
11:34:41AM IS KIND OF INTERESTING, NOT 75, 70, 75, BUT 72.
11:34:45AM IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T SUPPORT THAT AND I JUST WANT TO SAY
11:34:48AM THAT TO THE ENTIRE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
11:34:50AM THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS FRIDAY, TOMORROW, I WILL BE AT
11:34:53AM HANNA CENTER WHERE WE ARE TAKING APPLICATIONS FOR SUMMER
11:34:58AM YOUTH EMPLOYMENT.
11:35:00AM MS. WYNN MET I BELIEVE WITH THE NAACP THIS WEEK AND HAD A
11:35:04AM DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
11:35:05AM SO WE CAN ALSO CHECK WITH OUR HUMAN RESOURCES, THE
11:35:09AM APPLICATIONS ARE COMING IN.
11:35:12AM HAVE WE EVEN GOTTEN TO 72?
11:35:14AM ALSO, AN ADVERTISEMENT IN THE FLORIDA SENTINEL INDICATING
11:35:18AM THAT WE ARE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS AND THAT THE SUMMER YOUTH
11:35:21AM EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM, WE ARE HIRING.
11:35:23AM AND EAST TAMPA HAS A RIGHT TO APPLY.
11:35:27AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS TRUE AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY, IS
11:35:31AM THAT OUR SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM IS OPEN TO THE CITY
11:35:35AM OF TAMPA, AND THAT IS A FACT.
11:35:40AM IT IS OPEN TO ALL CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:35:43AM ARE WE ENCOURAGING EAST TAMPA YOUTH TO APPLY?
11:35:47AM ABSOLUTELY.
11:35:49AM AND WE HAVE DESIGNATED UNDER THE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM AN
11:35:54AM OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO DO SO.
11:35:56AM BUT THE 72, OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCIL WAS TO DO THAT
11:36:03AM AT THE BUDGET AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
11:36:07AM SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, HOW DOES THAT COME ABOUT?
11:36:10AM HOW DO WE RATIFY THE BUDGET TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN THIS SUMMER?
11:36:14AM THAT IS THE BETTER QUESTION.
11:36:16AM WE WOULD HAVE TO DO AN AMENDMENT.
11:36:18AM BUT SHOULDN'T WE LOOK AT TO SEE HOW MANY APPLICANTS WE
11:36:21AM ACTUALLY HAVE TO SEE IF THAT NEED IS ACTUALLY THERE TO DO
11:36:26AM THAT?
11:36:27AM BECAUSE THE KIDS HAVE TO APPLY.
11:36:29AM YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY THE 72 BY ACTUALLY HAVING THE APPLICANT
11:36:32AM IN PLACE, NOT, OH, WE HAVE 72 AND BEG KIDS TO FILL THE
11:36:37AM SLOTS.
11:36:38AM THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MENTION IS
11:36:41AM THAT BECAUSE OF HOW SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT WORKS IN THE
11:36:44AM CITY OF TAMPA, WE HAVE KIDS WHO WORK FOR PARKS AND REC THAT
11:36:48AM ACTUALLY ARE FROM EAST TAMPA.
11:36:50AM THEY JUST DIDN'T DO IT UNDER THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
11:36:53AM THEY WORK IN OUR PARKS.
11:36:55AM AND THEY LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
11:36:56AM SO YOU CAN LITERALLY TAKE THE DATA AND JUST ALSO LOOK AT IT
11:37:00AM FROM THAT DIRECTION AS WELL, WE ARE SERVING STUDENTS FROM
11:37:03AM EAST TAMPA UNDER OUR SUMMER EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM THAT MAY NOT
11:37:07AM FALL UNDER THE GUISE OF THE PROGRAM THAT EXISTED UNDER THE
11:37:09AM CRA.
11:37:10AM THEY WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AT OUR PARKS AND REC AND
11:37:14AM THEY HAPPEN TO BE FROM EAST TAMPA.
11:37:16AM WE HAVE A RIGHT TO PULL THOSE NUMBERS TO JUSTIFY THAT IT IS
11:37:19AM EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE SERVING.
11:37:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PART-TIME, TEMPORARY HELP.
11:37:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL ARE PART-TIME.
11:37:26AM YEAH, THOSE ARE THE 32 HOURS, $15 AN HOUR THAT BENEFIT KIDS
11:37:32AM FROM OTHER PARTS OF OUR CITY, BUT ALSO EAST TAMPA STUDENTS
11:37:37AM YOUTH BENEFIT FROM THOSE NUMBERS AS WELL.
11:37:39AM IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ISOLATING, OH, ONLY 45 KIDS FROM EAST
11:37:43AM TAMPA GET A JOB.
11:37:45AM THEY GET TO APPLY AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DATA TO SAY IS
11:37:53AM THERE A NEED FOR 72?
11:37:54AM POSSIBLY, ABSOLUTELY.
11:37:56AM I WORKED DURING THE SUMMER MY FIRST JOB AND ALSO MAYBE EVEN
11:38:03AM AFTER FRIDAY, JUST DEPENDING ON WHO SHOWS UP, I MEAN,
11:38:07AM TOMORROW, WHO SHOWS UP THAT MAY NEED HELP WITH THE
11:38:09AM APPLICATION PROCESS.
11:38:11AM I AM FEEDING YOU ALL, BY THE WAY.
11:38:13AM WE'LL HAVE EVEN BETTER DATA AND GO BACK TO HUMAN RESOURCES
11:38:18AM TO SAY, HEY, HOW MANY STUDENTS HAVE APPLIED SO FAR?
11:38:20AM I'M ASKING FOR THAT EVERY WEEK BECAUSE PEOPLE -- I EVEN PUT
11:38:23AM IT IN THE PAPER THAT EVEN I'M HIRING.
11:38:27AM POLICE DEPARTMENT, COMMUNICATION IS HIRING.
11:38:29AM WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT TAKE THEM BEYOND WHAT MS. BURTON
11:38:32AM SAID WHEN I FIRST BECAME A COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN SHE SAID
11:38:35AM WE'RE TREATING THEM LIKE SLAVES AND THEY ARE CLEANING UP.
11:38:38AM THAT WAS CONNECTED TO THE CLEANUP, CONNECTING IT TO THE FACT
11:38:43AM THAT IT WAS CRA DOLLARS.
11:38:45AM SO YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE SLUM AND BLIGHT.
11:38:47AM THAT'S WHY THEY ARE CLEANING UP.
11:38:48AM NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL-FLEDGED PROGRAM WHERE THEY GET TO
11:38:51AM WORK IN THE OFFICE OF CITY COUNCIL, YOU ALL CAN HAVE ONE,
11:38:54AM TOO, IF YOU WANT IT.
11:38:55AM COMMUNICATION AND OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS AN
11:39:00AM OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO EXPAND THE PROGRAM SO THEY CAN GET SOME
11:39:04AM VIABLE WORK EXPERIENCES IN OTHER AREAS BESIDES CLEANING THE
11:39:08AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND BEING A PART OF THE PROGRAM THE WAY IT
11:39:12AM EXISTED BEFORE.
11:39:13AM I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
11:39:15AM I WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT PUBLICLY.
11:39:18AM IT LANDED AT 42, THAT HAPPENED AT THE BUDGET TIME.
11:39:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:39:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND WE WOULD NEED TO AMEND IT.
11:39:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I'VE SPOKEN TO MR. MULKEY ABOUT THIS
11:39:30AM AS WELL AS MS. WYNN, AND, YES, THERE ARE SOME JOBS THAT ARE
11:39:36AM TEMPORARY SUMMER JOBS THAT YOUTH ARE EMPLOYED BUT EVERYONE
11:39:40AM CAN APPLY FOR, LIKE LIFEGUARDS, LIKE FOLKS THAT WORK WITH
11:39:44AM YOUTH IN SUMMER CAMP PROGRAMS.
11:39:46AM SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE YOUTH BUT THEY CAN BE.
11:39:49AM I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.
11:39:51AM IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY FROM MY CONVERSATION WAS MS. WYNN
11:39:54AM AND MR. MULKEY AND MS. WYNN CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT
11:39:58AM THEY WANTED TO START SMALLER BECAUSE IT WAS A BRAND-NEW
11:40:01AM PROGRAM AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY COULD GET IT TO
11:40:04AM WORK BEFORE THEY EXPANDED IT.
11:40:09AM IF YOU JUST WANT TO -- I MEAN, THIS WAS MY RECOLLECTION OF
11:40:14AM WHAT -- WHY THIS PARTICULAR GROUP WAS GOING TO BE SMALLER
11:40:18AM THIS YEAR.
11:40:19AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM.
11:40:20AM OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
11:40:23AM AFFAIRS.
11:40:24AM TO ADDRESS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S COMMENT ABOUT SLUM AND
11:40:35AM BLIGHT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THAT WE ARE PUTTING THESE KIDS,
11:40:41AM THESE YOUTH, THE HIRES, INTO POSITIONS WITHIN CITY
11:40:45AM GOVERNMENT.
11:40:46AM SO SOME WILL BE IN THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.
11:40:49AM SOME WILL BE IN THE FLEET SO THEY CAN HAVE REAL HANDS-ON
11:40:54AM EXPERIENCE.
11:40:54AM AS WE'RE UNWRAPPING THIS FROM WHAT THEY DID BEFORE, WE NEED
11:40:58AM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING OUT ALL THE KINKS INSTEAD OF
11:41:03AM HAVING ALMOST 175, A HUNDRED KIDS AND THEN WE'RE ALL OVER
11:41:07AM OURSELVES.
11:41:08AM AS I COMMUNICATED, WE WILL LOOK AT HOW WE NEED TO PHASE AND
11:41:15AM EXPAND THIS FOR NEXT YEAR TO HAVE IT BROADER BECAUSE IT
11:41:19AM WOULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE FOR EVERYONE IF WE HAVE KIDS JUST
11:41:22AM SITTING AROUND AND NOT GETTING THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE ARE
11:41:26AM HOPING THEY GET.
11:41:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:41:31AM I KNOW THAT BUDGET SEASON IS COMING UP BEFORE THE SUMMER IS
11:41:34AM OVER.
11:41:36AM DO YOU JUST PLAN TO KIND OF USE THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS
11:41:41AM TO SEE HOW IT GOES BEFORE YOU DO A REQUEST FOR THE AMOUNT OF
11:41:45AM MONEY?
11:41:50AM >>OCEA WYNN: THE PROGRAM LASTS FOR EIGHT WEEKS.
11:41:52AM IT IS AN EIGHT-WEEK PROGRAM.
11:41:54AM IDEALLY, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO DO THE LESSONS LEARNED IN ALL
11:41:57AM OF THAT ON THE BACK END, BUT IT IS YOUR PLEASURE TO SEE HOW
11:42:00AM WE NEED TO NAVIGATE GOING FORWARD.
11:42:04AM GOING NOW AND GOING FORWARD.
11:42:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:42:06AM MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE COME BACK TO US
11:42:09AM AROUND AS PART OF ONE OF THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS.
11:42:13AM MR. ROGERO IS CONVENIENTLY HERE AND TIE WITH YOU TO DO THAT
11:42:18AM TO MAKE SURE WE GET, NOW THAT -- AFTER THAT FIRST YEAR OF
11:42:22AM EXPERIENCE, LIKE HOW WE CAN EXPAND IT AND HOW WE CAN MAKE
11:42:25AM SURE WE FUND IT FOR NEXT YEAR FOLLOWING COUNCILWOMAN
11:42:28AM HENDERSON'S POINTS.
11:42:31AM I WOULD ASK THAT BE A PART OF ONE OF OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS IN
11:42:36AM AUGUST.
11:42:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN I'LL
11:42:41AM GO BACK TO VIERA.
11:42:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ONLY POINT I WAS MAKING, DERIVED FROM
11:42:47AM MY FELLOW COUNCILPERSON'S CONVERSATIONS, I'M A HUGE FAN AND
11:42:55AM SUPPORTER OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TYPE OF PROGRAMS, I KNOW
11:43:01AM PEOPLE MAYBE HAVE A NEGATIVE OPINION OF THAT.
11:43:03AM I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A LIFELONG SUPPORTER OF THAT.
11:43:05AM WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CRAFT AS WE EXPLORE THESE OPTIONS OF
11:43:10AM EXPANDING A SUMMER YOUTH WORK PROGRAM, TO BE ABLE TO HELP
11:43:17AM PEOPLE WITH THAT LEG UP AND IDENTIFY THE FOLKS THAT REALLY,
11:43:23AM TARGET FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT FOR VARIOUS SOCIETAL
11:43:29AM REASONS HAVE NOT NECESSARILY HAD THE ABILITY TO SHARE IN
11:43:37AM EQUAL ACCESS TO PROGRAMS AND OPPORTUNITIES.
11:43:40AM AS WE DEVELOP THIS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- IT'S NOT
11:43:45AM GOOD ENOUGH IN MY MIND, IN MY VALUES, MY VALUE SET IS TO
11:43:50AM THINK THAT THERE IS AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD, SO WHEN YOU OPEN
11:43:55AM THESE THINGS UP, BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALITY.
11:43:57AM SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SOME TYPE
11:44:03AM OF AFFIRMATIVE PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE TARGETED
11:44:08AM YOUTH THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO BENEFIT, TO GIVE THEM THAT
11:44:11AM LEG UP AND THAT HAND UP SO THEY CAN HAVE A SUCCESSFUL START
11:44:15AM ON LIFE.
11:44:16AM THAT IS THE ONLY THING I WOULD LEAVE THAT WITH, MAKE SURE
11:44:19AM THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS AFFIRMATIVE AND TARGETS THE
11:44:21AM RIGHT PEOPLE.
11:44:24AM >>OCEA WYNN: REALLY QUICKLY, THE NUMBER 4872, WHATEVER
11:44:32AM NUMBERS, THE AMOUNT THAT CAME OVER FROM THE CRA WAS 36.
11:44:36AM THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL 12 FROM CITYWIDE THAT THE GENERAL
11:44:41AM FUND PAYS FOR.
11:44:42AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.
11:44:43AM THEN ALSO TO COMMUNICATE, WE HAVE MORE THAN THIS PROGRAM.
11:44:49AM PARKS AND RECREATION OVER THE SUMMER, WE HIRE ABOUT 370, 375
11:44:53AM YOUTH.
11:44:54AM WE PARTNER WITH CAREER-SOURCE TO HIRE YOUNG ADULTS, TEEN AND
11:45:01AM YOUNG ADULTS FROM THE AGES OF 16 TO 24.
11:45:07AM THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM WE'RE WORKING WITH HILLSBOROUGH
11:45:09AM COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO EMPLOY YOUTH AS WELL.
11:45:14AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MORE -- WE'RE TALKING
11:45:17AM ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU
11:45:20AM UNDERSTOOD THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING, NOT DISMISSING WHAT
11:45:23AM WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT JUST WANTED TO
11:45:26AM SHARE SOME INSIGHT TO ALL OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE
11:45:29AM OVERSEE FOR THE SUMMER.
11:45:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:45:31AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:45:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY MOTION THAT I THINK KIND OF CAPTURES WHERE
11:45:35AM WE ARE AT ON COUNCIL IS THAT WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON MAY
11:45:39AM 15th THAT REQUESTS THE FOLLOWING, WHICH IS THE CAPACITY OF
11:45:45AM THIS PROGRAM TO POTENTIALLY INCREASE MORE UP TO 72.
11:45:48AM AGAIN, I KNOW THAT PROBABLY CAN'T HAPPEN THIS YEAR, BUT THAT
11:45:53AM AFFIRMATIVE STEPS ARE MADE TO REACH OUT TO SULPHUR SPRINGS
11:45:55AM ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, AND I CAN GIVE
11:45:58AM YOU ALL THIS, THE SULPHUR SPRINGS YMCA COMMUNITY STEPPING
11:46:03AM STONES TO SEE WHAT ADDITIONAL CAPACITY WE CAN HANDLE FOR
11:46:06AM THIS SUMMER THROUGH ANY SULPHUR SPRINGS YOUTH.
11:46:09AM I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS RIGHT
11:46:11AM NOW.
11:46:11AM I DO THINK THAT IS A WORTHY GESTURE, WHERE IF WE CAN FIT IN
11:46:16AM ANOTHER 10, 15, WHATEVER IT MAY BE OF KIDS FROM SULPHUR
11:46:19AM SPRINGS, KIDS LIVING IN POVERTY, THAT IS A WIN.
11:46:23AM THAT'S MY MOTION FOR MAY 15.
11:46:25AM AGAIN, SUMMER IS UPON US.
11:46:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:46:29AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:46:30AM AYE.
11:46:30AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:46:31AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:32AM ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:46:34AM ITEM NUMBER 4 IS A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:46:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T KNOW IF MR. ROGERO HAD --
11:46:53AM MS. KOPESKY SENT US ALL THE PowerPoint THAT MR. ROGERO
11:46:59AM GAVE US IN DECEMBER 2024.
11:47:04AM IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT --
11:47:10AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I HAVE ONE COPY, BUT I CAN PUT IT ON THE
11:47:12AM ELMO, IF YOU'D LIKE.
11:47:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO START BY SAYING WE HAD A
11:47:18AM PRETTY DECENT IDEA OF HOW TO USE SOME OF THIS MONEY BECAUSE
11:47:21AM WE NEED TO PAY OURSELVES BACK FOR HURRICANES.
11:47:23AM BUT AFTER THAT, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE ROOM TO MOVE.
11:47:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH ROOM IS THAT?
11:47:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WON'T STEAL MR. ROGERO'S THUNDER, BUT I DO
11:47:35AM WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE HURRICANE
11:47:38AM MONEY, IF WE DON'T REPLENISH IT, WE'VE GOT NOTHING, LIKE
11:47:42AM NOTHING FOR THIS YEAR.
11:47:43AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WELL SAID, MA'AM.
11:47:45AM IF I COULD HAVE --
11:47:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE NEGATIVE FOR THIS YEAR.
11:47:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: EVEN BETTER SAID.
11:47:50AM CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT?
11:48:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN SEE IT, YES.
11:48:03AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOT THE CLOSED CAPTIONING IN THERE.
11:48:05AM BOTTOM LINE, AGAIN, THIS IS STEMMING FROM OUR DISCUSSION A
11:48:08AM COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATED THE
11:48:12AM FINANCIAL SITUATION WOULD LOOK LIKE.
11:48:13AM IT HAS LANDED.
11:48:14AM WE DISTRIBUTED THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR LAST YEAR, VERY,
11:48:17AM VERY POSITIVE.
11:48:18AM AGAIN, LET ME EMPHASIZE, WE ARE IN A VERY STRONG FINANCIAL
11:48:22AM POSITION.
11:48:23AM NOW, I DON'T NEED TO TELL ANYBODY WATCHING THIS OR ANYBODY
11:48:26AM ON COUNCIL THAT THERE ARE A GROWING NUMBER OF CHALLENGES AND
11:48:31AM CONCERNS.
11:48:33AM HOWEVER, TO CONTINUE ALONG THE LINES OF TALKING ABOUT
11:48:36AM HURRICANES AND STORMS, WE ARE VERY WELL POSITIONED AS A CITY
11:48:40AM IN ALL OF OUR FUNDS TO WEATHER A FINANCIAL STORM.
11:48:44AM THE X FACTOR REALLY IS HOW BAD WILL THE STORM BE AND HOW
11:48:49AM LONG WILL IT LAST?
11:48:50AM IF I KNEW THAT, I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE STANDING RIGHT HERE
11:48:54AM IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:48:55AM BUT WHAT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO, COUNCIL, AS COUNCILWOMAN
11:48:59AM HURTAK INTRODUCED IT, WAS ABOUT $25 MILLION, A LITTLE UNDER
11:49:04AM $26 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR, FROM
11:49:09AM FISCAL YEAR 24, HAVING ACCOUNTED FOR A NUMBER OF NEEDS,
11:49:15AM NEEDS WE ARE OBLIGATED TO PAY FROM LAST YEAR'S FUNDING,
11:49:19AM YOU'LL RECALL, COMMITTED FUND BALANCE, ASSIGNED FUND
11:49:23AM BALANCE, RESTRICTED FUND BALANCE, ET CETERA.
11:49:25AM MEETING WHAT I GATHER CONTINUES TO BE THE CONSENSUS OF 23%
11:49:29AM UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
11:49:31AM AGAIN, VERY, VERY ADVANTAGEOUS AND CONTRIBUTES TO OUR
11:49:34AM ABILITY TO WEATHER ANY FINANCIAL STORM.
11:49:37AM WHAT WE HAVE LEFT IS $25.8 MILLION.
11:49:40AM AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, THE LAST TWO ITEMS THERE, WE
11:49:45AM HIGHLY RECOMMEND REPLENISHING OUR EMERGENCY FUNDING FOR
11:49:50AM CIRCUS.
11:49:50AM THAT IS THE $7 MILLION FROM MILTON AND $7 MILLION FOR HELENE
11:49:54AM AND DEBBY.
11:49:55AM PRESUMING WE WANT TO STAY THE COURSE ON THE EMERGENCY
11:50:03AM FUNDING, THEN WE REALLY HAVE ABOUT $11 MILLION, MAYBE $12
11:50:06AM MILLION IN PLAY TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO.
11:50:10AM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS
11:50:13AM SIMPLY WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FINANCIAL
11:50:17AM ENVIRONMENT, WHETHER GLOBAL, NATIONAL, STATE, OR LOCAL.
11:50:20AM BUT YOU SEE AT THE TOP THERE, WE HAVE PUT SOME PRIORITIES
11:50:24AM THAT COUNCIL HAS ADDRESSED OF THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS,
11:50:28AM PAVING RESURFACING, STORMWATER, AND FLOODING ASSISTANCE.
11:50:31AM WE HAVE ALSO PUT A COUPLE OF CONCERNS, AGAIN, X FACTORS, IF
11:50:37AM YOU WILL, WHAT WILL BE THE ADVERSE IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH
11:50:40AM THE STORMS ON OUR PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
11:50:44AM THE SIMPLE ANSWER RIGHT NOW IS WE DON'T KNOW.
11:50:47AM WE DON'T KNOW.
11:50:47AM ANOTHER SIMPLE ANSWER TO THE NEXT ITEM, SET ASIDE FUNDING
11:50:54AM FOR INSURANCE INCREASES.
11:50:56AM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE INSURANCE INCREASES WILL BE.
11:50:58AM WE HAVE ABOUT 10% ANTICIPATED, BUT WITH THE ACTIVITY
11:51:03AM ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRADE WAR, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, IT'S
11:51:07AM JUST AN EDUCATED GUESS AT THIS POINT.
11:51:09AM A NUMBER OF PRIORITIES FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHAT TO DO
11:51:16AM WITH SOME OF THIS REMAINING FUNDING FROM FISCAL YEAR '24.
11:51:20AM I HOPE I DIDN'T GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, COUNCILWOMAN
11:51:24AM HURTAK.
11:51:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:51:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:51:27AM IF WE COULD PUT THAT BACK UP JUST SO WE CAN BE LOOKING AT IT
11:51:33AM AS WE'RE DISCUSSING.
11:51:34AM I WANT TO JUST BRING BACK TO YOU ALL SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
11:51:38AM WE DID TALK ABOUT DURING THIS LAST CONVERSATION.
11:51:43AM COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKED ABOUT MORE MONEY FOR FLOODING
11:51:46AM ASSISTANCE.
11:51:46AM WE TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER MONEY, PAVING AND RESURFACING.
11:51:51AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF SUGGESTING AND
11:51:55AM SEE HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT IT.
11:51:57AM WE PUT $3.2 MILLION, IF I'M CORRECT, COUNCILMAN VIERA, INTO
11:52:03AM FLOODING ASSISTANCE.
11:52:04AM I THINK THAT TO TAKE THIS POINT OUT AND ROUND IT, THE .8 OUT
11:52:08AM AND ROUND IT VERY NICELY.
11:52:10AM PUT 1.8 MORE MILLION INTO THAT, I'M JUST THROWING NUMBERS
11:52:15AM OUT HERE AS A PLACE WE COULD START.
11:52:19AM AND THEN WE HAVE $10 MILLION LEFT.
11:52:23AM AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL BUT I'M CONSTANTLY GETTING
11:52:26AM FOLKS CALLING ME ABOUT STORMWATER AND THEY ARE VERY
11:52:29AM CONCERNED.
11:52:30AM I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE 5 MILLION FOR STORMWATER AND THEN
11:52:35AM BETWEEN PAVING AND HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, LATELY
11:52:40AM SIDEWALKS, MAYBE DIVIDING THAT MONEY BETWEEN MORE PAVING AND
11:52:43AM MORE SIDEWALKS.
11:52:45AM AGAIN, I'M JUST THROWING THAT STUFF OUT THERE BECAUSE I'D
11:52:48AM LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, I KNOW WE NEED TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC
11:52:51AM COMMENT, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OR GET CONSENSUS THAT
11:52:54AM WE ARE GOING TO PUT $14 MILLION TOWARDS REPLENISHING OUR
11:52:58AM HURRICANE FUNDS SO THAT WE'RE REALLY ONLY LOOKING AT 11.8.
11:53:02AM I SEE SOME NODS.
11:53:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE A SECOND.
11:53:06AM I WILL TELL YOU THIS.
11:53:09AM 95% OF WHAT I HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, IF I'M AT THE GROCERY
11:53:13AM STORE, PUMPING GAS, HAVING COFFEE, WHATEVER, GUIDO, WHEN ARE
11:53:18AM YOU GOING TO PAVE OUR ROADS?
11:53:19AM IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT SINCE I GOT ELECTED.
11:53:23AM I'M NOT SAYING THE OTHER THINGS ARE NOT PRIORITIES, BUT AS
11:53:27AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK BROKE IT DOWN, REPLENISHING THE
11:53:31AM EMERGENCY FUND, WE HAVE TO DO.
11:53:33AM INCREASING THE FLOODING ASSISTANCE THAT WAS LAUNCHED BY
11:53:38AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SO YOU'LL BRING IT UP TO $5 MILLION YOU'RE
11:53:42AM SAYING?
11:53:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
11:53:44AM BECAUSE SO NICE, .8, ADDED TO THE .2 SO NICELY.
11:53:49AM HEY.
11:53:50AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, AND WE KNOW I'VE HEARD THAT PEOPLE ARE
11:53:56AM STILL APPLYING.
11:53:57AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR.
11:54:00AM BUT 5 MILLION IS SO LITTLE.
11:54:02AM WE COULD PUT ALL THAT MONEY TOWARD THERE AND IT WOULDN'T BE
11:54:05AM ENOUGH.
11:54:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
11:54:10AM REGARDING STORMWATER, PAVING AND RESURFACING, I KNOW THAT
11:54:13AM THE CITY IS MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ON STORMWATER STUFF.
11:54:16AM I KNOW THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT SOCIAL MEDIA,
11:54:19AM WHOEVER IS RUNNING IT IS DOING A GREAT JOB COMPLAINING ABOUT
11:54:22AM THE ROADS, REMEMBER, THIS IS A COUNTY ROAD.
11:54:25AM THIS IS A STATE ROAD.
11:54:26AM SO PEOPLE DON'T GET CONFUSED.
11:54:28AM IT'S IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, SO THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH
11:54:31AM THAT.
11:54:31AM I WOULD SUPPORT WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING.
11:54:34AM I THINK IT'S FAIR.
11:54:35AM AS WE LOOK AT THIS NEXT BUDGET COMING UP, WE NEED TO LOOK AT
11:54:40AM INCREASING SIDEWALK AND PAVING AS WELL.
11:54:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HUNDRED PERCENT.
11:54:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS A GOOD FOUNDATION, BUT I WOULD
11:54:45AM SUPPORT YOU.
11:54:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET ME TELL YOU WHY I PUT FIVE TOWARD
11:54:49AM STORMWATER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HEARING AS WE
11:54:52AM FACILITATE THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO NEED THEIR
11:54:55AM DITCHES AND THINGS CLEANED, THAT THEY ARE REALLY WORRIED.
11:54:58AM THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED THROUGH HELENE AND MILTON AND
11:55:01AM THEY ARE VERY SCARED ABOUT WHAT'S COMING FORWARD.
11:55:05AM OUR STORMWATER TEAM IS WORKING AS FAST AS THEY CAN BUT SOME
11:55:09AM OF THEIR EQUIPMENT IS BROKEN AND IN THE SHOP.
11:55:13AM THAT'S WHY I PUT 5 MILLION, TO BUY STUFF SO THEY CAN GET
11:55:17AM MORE PEOPLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEED.
11:55:19AM BUT THAT WAS WHY, AND THEN, AGAIN, BUT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN
11:55:25AM WHY I PUT FIVE IN STORMWATER BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THEY NEED
11:55:28AM TO BUY SOME EQUIPMENT AND WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THAT
11:55:32AM FLEXIBILITY.
11:55:35AM WE ARE GETTING HEARTFELT, TEARFUL CALLS.
11:55:41AM PEOPLE ARE SO SCARED.
11:55:43AM I FEEL IT.
11:55:44AM I'M TEARING UP BECAUSE I FEEL IT.
11:55:46AM I'M HEARING THE CONVERSATIONS THAT MS. SHARP IS HAVING WITH
11:55:48AM PEOPLE TOO.
11:55:49AM OUR STORMWATER TEAM IS AWESOME.
11:55:51AM I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY HOW AMAZING THEY ARE AT
11:55:55AM RETURNING PEOPLE'S E-MAILS, CALLING BACK, FEELING THE NEED.
11:56:00AM THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT EVEN GOING TO WORK ON THE WEEKENDS
11:56:03AM FOR THIS ONE PARTICULAR CITIZEN WHO IS CALLING IN.
11:56:06AM I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM SO MUCH FOR THE AMAZING WORK THEY
11:56:10AM ARE DOING AND DOING WHAT WE CAN TO SUPPORT THEM.
11:56:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU
11:56:15AM PROPOSED.
11:56:16AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, VIERA, MIRANDA.
11:56:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID YOU TURN YOUR MIKE OFF?
11:56:20AM MINE WENT OFF BY ITSELF.
11:56:23AM I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO DO IT.
11:56:25AM I NOTICED IT WASN'T ON AGAIN.
11:56:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN, VIERA, MIRANDA, CARLSON.
11:56:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHOEVER IS MONKEYING WITH THE MIKES.
11:56:38AM I GET YOUR INTENT.
11:56:41AM LET ME VOICE THIS CONCERN.
11:56:46AM STORMWATER.
11:56:46AM MY GOODNESS.
11:56:48AM HOW MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE WE ALREADY OUT ON
11:56:53AM STORMWATER?
11:56:53AM WE'RE BONDING.
11:56:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT STORMWATER THE BIG
11:56:59AM PROJECTS.
11:56:59AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO NEED THEIR DITCHES DONE.
11:57:02AM THE EQUIPMENT IS BROKEN RIGHT NOW.
11:57:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN'T THAT GET PAID OUT OF THE STORMWATER
11:57:06AM ALLOCATION, THE BIG PROJECT, THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS?
11:57:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK IT CAN BUT IS IT GOING TO BE DONE
11:57:12AM FAST ENOUGH?
11:57:13AM THAT IS THE ISSUE.
11:57:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY SPEND THIS MONEY --
11:57:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BOND.
11:57:18AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I MAY, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS ENTIRELY
11:57:22AM CORRECT.
11:57:22AM THE OTHER ISSUE IS SIMILAR TO THE PIPES PROGRAM, THE
11:57:28AM STORMWATER, THAT COMPONENT OF STORMWATER FUNDED VIA DEBT IS
11:57:33AM A, WE THINK, WELL PLANNED OUT PROJECT TIME FRAME OVER YEARS.
11:57:39AM WHAT WILL YOU SACRIFICE IN THAT PLAN --
11:57:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AREN'T PEOPLE ALREADY TAXED?
11:57:44AM WE HAVE A STORMWATER TAX.
11:57:45AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE DO.
11:57:46AM TWO STORMWATER ASSESSMENTS.
11:57:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALMOST LOOK LIKE TRIPLE TAXATION BASED ON
11:57:52AM THAT.
11:57:53AM WE'RE ALREADY TAXING PEOPLE FOR STORMWATER, AND NOW WE'RE
11:57:56AM TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR STORMWATER AS WELL.
11:57:59AM WHAT SHOULD BE PAID FOR WITH THE DEBT SERVICE FROM THE TAX
11:58:03AM THAT THEY ARE PAYING, WE NEED TO KEEP THAT CORRALLED.
11:58:08AM I'M HAVING -- AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
11:58:12AM I'M HAVING A HARD TIME ON THE FISCAL RESPONSIBLE SIDE OF
11:58:15AM THAT.
11:58:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE YOU NOT GETTING THE PHONE CALLS WE'RE
11:58:19AM GETTING?
11:58:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGREE WITH CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO ON THIS.
11:58:22AM THE PHONE CALLS I GET IS PAVING THE SIDEWALKS.
11:58:25AM PAVE OUR DAMN ROADS.
11:58:27AM THAT IS ALMOST, I WOULD SAY, 80 PERCENT OF THE COMPLAINTS I
11:58:30AM GET.
11:58:31AM I GUARANTEE YOU, HAVING A TOWN HALL MONDAY NIGHT, THAT WILL
11:58:34AM BE A PREDOMINANT CONVERSATION ARE THE ROADS.
11:58:38AM WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER METHOD OF PAVING THE ROADS.
11:58:41AM WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIAL TAX TO PAVE THE ROADS AND NOBODY
11:58:46AM ELSE OUTSIDE THE CITY -- THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO PAVE OUR
11:58:50AM ROADS.
11:58:50AM HELL, THEY DON'T EVEN PAVE THEIR OWN ROADS.
11:58:53AM NOBODY IS COMING TO PAVE OUR ROADS.
11:58:56AM WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN DO THAT.
11:59:00AM LET ME FINISH THIS THOUGHT.
11:59:01AM WHY IS IT GOING OFF?
11:59:02AM IT'S WEIRD.
11:59:11AM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS GETTING A
11:59:13AM $709 MILLION BLOCK GRANT FOR THE STORM RELIEF, BUT SOME OF
11:59:20AM THAT MONEY IS COMING TO US.
11:59:23AM IS THAT MONEY -- CAN WE USE THAT MONEY TO REPLENISH THE
11:59:26AM EMERGENCY FUNDS?
11:59:28AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SHORT ANSWER IS NO, BUT LET ME ELABORATE A
11:59:32AM LITTLE.
11:59:32AM WE'RE COMING IN I THINK MAYBE AT THE NEXT MEETING TO GIVE
11:59:38AM COUNCIL A BRIEFING ON THAT PARTICULAR FUNDING SOURCE.
11:59:39AM WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT.
11:59:39AM IT'S A LITTLE OVER 700 MILLION.
11:59:41AM TECHNICALLY IT IS CALLED THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK
11:59:43AM GRANT, DASH, DISASTER RECOVERY.
11:59:47AM WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM.
11:59:48AM WE'RE WORKING WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, PLANT CITY,
11:59:51AM TEMPLE TERRACE.
11:59:53AM THERE ARE BUMPER RAILS ON WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT FUNDING.
11:59:56AM 70%, FOR INSTANCE, HAS TO BE IN SERVICE OF LOW AND MIDDLE
11:59:59AM INCOME CITIZENS.
12:00:00PM THERE'S 30% THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO MEET THAT CRITERIA, BUT YOU
12:00:05PM DO HAVE TO ESTABLISH -- BORROW THIS FROM THE IMPACT FEES --
12:00:09PM SOME SORT OF RATIONAL NEXUS WITH HOW THIS FUNDING IS GOING
12:00:13PM TO PREVENT OR MITIGATE DISASTER DAMAGE IN THE FUTURE,
12:00:17PM WHETHER INFRASTRUCTURE, MITIGATION, YOU CAN MAKE A
12:00:20PM CONNECTION WITH ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION, FOR INSTANCE.
12:00:24PM SO WITHIN THOSE PARTICULAR PARAMETERS, RIGHT NOW, IT'S VERY,
12:00:29PM VERY BROAD.
12:00:29PM OUR NEXT STEP IN WHAT WE'RE CRAFTING NOW, I SHOULD SAY WHAT
12:00:32PM THE COUNTY IS CRAFTING NOW WITH OUR INPUT IS THE ACTION PLAN
12:00:37PM FOR THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FEDERAL OFFICE.
12:00:42PM SO THAT IS A LONG-WINDED WAY OF SAYING, I DON'T THINK YOU
12:00:45PM CAN SIMPLY ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT
12:00:51PM RIGHT NOW.
12:00:52PM WHAT WE MAY FIND, HOWEVER, AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, AS
12:00:57PM THE ACTION PLAN IS APPROVED BY HUD, THEN WE WILL GET INTO
12:01:03PM PARTICULAR PROJECTS.
12:01:04PM RIGHT NOW, 50,000-FOOT LEVEL AS WE GET THE FEDERAL
12:01:08PM GOVERNMENT TO APPROVE THE ACTION PLAN.
12:01:11PM ONCE WE GET INTO THE PROJECT DETAIL, WE MAY INDEED FIND
12:01:16PM WHERE THERE IS A DEFENSIBLE NEXUS TO STORMWATER FUNDING
12:01:21PM REPAIR.
12:01:22PM BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE
12:01:26PM WHOLE, FOR INSTANCE, DAMAGES TO THEIR HOME, SOMETHING THAT
12:01:29PM IS ACCOMPLISHED VIA PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.
12:01:32PM FEMA.
12:01:33PM WHETHER IT'S CITY FUNDING OR WHETHER IT'S INDIVIDUAL
12:01:36PM RESIDENTS APPLICATION TO FEMA FUNDING.
12:01:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT COVERS THE OTHER ITEM, THE 1.8.
12:01:44PM AGAIN, OTHER METHODS OF FUNDING THIS.
12:01:46PM BETWEEN THE FEMA ASSISTANCE, IT'S NO LONGER IMMINENT THING.
12:01:53PM RIGHT AFTER THE STORM OF JUMPING IN THERE.
12:01:56PM EVERYTHING ELSE WAS SO SLOW.
12:01:58PM NOW QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE STORMS.
12:02:01PM THOSE TYPES OF ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS ARE FAIRLY OUT THERE AND
12:02:05PM AVAILABLE.
12:02:05PM NOW THIS MONEY IS COMING.
12:02:07PM AGAIN, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF FUNDING THESE PROGRAMS, SO
12:02:12PM BETWEEN STORMWATER AND THE OTHER WAYS OF PAYING FOR FLOODING
12:02:18PM ASSISTANCE AND KNOWING THIS, IT'S ALMOST THREE-QUARTERS OF A
12:02:21PM BILLION DOLLARS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS GOING TO GET.
12:02:24PM I HAVE TO IMAGINE AS STINGY AS THEY ARE AND AS MUCH AS THEY
12:02:28PM BLANK ON CITY OF TAMPA, WE'RE STILL GOING TO GET A COUPLE OF
12:02:32PM DOLLARS.
12:02:32PM I HAVE TO THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE THE OPPORTUNITY.
12:02:37PM THERE'S -- NOBODY ELSE IS COMING IN TO SAVE US ON PAVING THE
12:02:41PM ROADS.
12:02:42PM THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE -- NO PLACE ELSE WE CAN DO THAT.
12:02:45PM NO PLACE ELSE.
12:02:46PM NOBODY IS GIVING US MONEY TO PAVE OUR ROADS.
12:02:49PM AM I MISSING SOMETHING?
12:02:50PM ANY OTHER WAY OF PAVING OUR ROADS?
12:02:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO.
12:02:54PM KIND OF CIRCLING BACK TO THE 700 MILLION OFF THE TOP OF MY
12:02:58PM HEAD, AGAIN, ONLY IF YOU CAN ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF NEXUS.
12:03:03PM AGAIN, ROADWAYS, THE ENGINEERS WILL TELL YOU ROADWAYS ARE
12:03:05PM ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONVEYANCES FOR STORMWATER.
12:03:09PM IF YOU COULD ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF NEXUS WITH PAVING ROADS
12:03:14PM --
12:03:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HOOK THAT
12:03:19PM FISH, I'M DOWN FOR IT.
12:03:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, THIS IS IN THE INFANCY.
12:03:24PM GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING.
12:03:26PM BOTH THE COUNTY AND CITY OF TAMPA AND MAYBE THE OTHER
12:03:28PM LOCALITIES, WE HAVE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS WHO ARE EXPERTS IN
12:03:32PM THIS GUIDING US THROUGH THE PROCESS.
12:03:34PM BUT WE WILL, AND IT'S NOT JUST REPAVING AND STORM, WE WILL
12:03:39PM TRY TO ESTABLISH EVERY NEXUS WE CAN BECAUSE THAT IS A GREAT
12:03:42PM DEAL OF FUNDING.
12:03:43PM ITS PRIMARY INTENT IS MITIGATION AND PREVENTING OR
12:03:50PM MITIGATING ADVERSE IMPACTS IN THE FUTURE FROM EMERGENCIES,
12:03:53PM IN PARTICULAR STORMS.
12:03:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULD YOU CONSIDER KNOWING WE HAVE THE
12:03:57PM MONEY COMING UP THAT WE CAN SPEND FOR STORMWATER STUFF
12:04:01PM MITIGATION, TAKING THE FIVE AND PUT IT INTO PAVING AND
12:04:04PM LEAVING THE 1.8 IN THE FLOODING ASSISTANCE.
12:04:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
12:04:07PM I WOULD ENTERTAIN LIKE REDUCING IT MAYBE TO 3 MILLION.
12:04:15PM I DO BELIEVE THEY NEED THE FLEXIBILITY OF MONEY THAT'S NOT
12:04:19PM TIED TO THINGS BECAUSE WE NEED SO MANY THINGS.
12:04:24PM I'M SURE COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL TALK ABOUT IT, NORTH TAMPA
12:04:28PM AND FOREST HILLS IS JUST AS AFRAID AS THE FOLKS IN PORT
12:04:32PM TAMPA.
12:04:34PM AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HASTEN THE PURCHASING OF THIS
12:04:39PM EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED AND HIRING PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
12:04:43PM I'M HEARING IS THAT WE ARE DOWN A FEW PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T
12:04:47PM HAVE THE FUNDING FOR.
12:04:50PM I'M HAPPY TO GO DOWN, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PUT SOMETHING
12:04:54PM BECAUSE ALSO IT TELLS THE COMMUNITY WE HEAR YOU AND WE'RE
12:04:59PM DOING MORE THAN WE CAN.
12:05:01PM SO IF WE WENT DOWN TO THREE AND THEN WENT UP TO SEVEN FOR
12:05:06PM BOTH PAVING AND SIDEWALKS, AND I THINK SIDEWALKS, AGAIN,
12:05:10PM THROWING A COUPLE MILLION IN FOR SIDEWALKS AT LEAST, NOT
12:05:16PM HALF.
12:05:17PM IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT, LISA.
12:05:19PM LISA WENT AHEAD AND SHE TOOK MY COPY SO WE COULD TAKE A
12:05:23PM LOOK.
12:05:24PM IF YOU WANT TO MODIFY THAT TO INSTEAD OF FIVE, GO TO THREE.
12:05:28PM INSTEAD OF FIVE FOR PAVING, GO TO SEVEN.
12:05:31PM AND CONSIDER SOME MONEY FOR SIDEWALKS.
12:05:33PM I JUST THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING FOR SIDEWALKS AGAIN
12:05:37PM BECAUSE WE GOT THANK-YOU NOTES FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THE IN
12:05:40PM LIEU FEES.
12:05:42PM I THOUGHT WHAT WE COULD DO.
12:05:43PM UP AT SIDEWALKS, INSTEAD OF FIVE, IT SHOULD BE SEVEN OR
12:05:46PM WHERE IT SAYS --
12:05:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PAVING AND SIDEWALKS SEVEN AND THEN
12:05:50PM THREE MILLION TO STORMWATER.
12:05:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CONCUR WITH YOU ABOUT SIDEWALKS.
12:05:55PM I'M JUST AS PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT AS --
12:05:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S UP TO YOU ALL WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT INTO
12:06:01PM SIDEWALKS.
12:06:01PM I THINK AT LEAST A COUPLE MILLION AGAIN LETS PEOPLE KNOW WE
12:06:06PM ARE LISTENING AND HEAR THEM.
12:06:09PM >> IS THAT CORRECT?
12:06:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THANK YOU.
12:06:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APOLOGIZE, AGAIN, I WANT TO TRY TO
12:06:18PM PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.
12:06:20PM THIS IS A KIND OF SNEAK PEEK OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHARE
12:06:23PM WITH YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CDBG-DR.
12:06:27PM AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE SUBMISSIONS THAT THE CITY HAS
12:06:31PM GIVEN THE COUNTY.
12:06:32PM THERE'S BY NO MEANS GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS.
12:06:35PM RIGHT AT THE TOP, STORMWATER PUMP STATION RESILIENCY AND
12:06:38PM RELIABILITY IMPROVEMENTS, $12 MILLION.
12:06:41PM THAT IS A NICE CHUNK OF CHANGE.
12:06:44PM AGAIN, IT'S FORWARD LOOKING TO PREVENT FUTURE IMPACTS AS
12:06:49PM OPPOSED TO TRYING TO ADDRESS THE DAMAGE THAT HAS ALREADY
12:06:53PM OCCURRED FROM THE PREVIOUS STORMS.
12:06:55PM AGAIN, WE'LL SEND THIS OUT TO YOU AND SPEAK IN MORE DETAIL.
12:07:00PM BUT WHEN WE CAN ESTABLISH THAT NEXUS, WE ABSOLUTELY PUT INTO
12:07:06PM OUR SUBMISSION AND WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT.
12:07:09PM HOPEFULLY THAT ADDS SOME CONTEXT TO THE DISCUSSION.
12:07:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST FOR MY COMFORT LEVEL ON GOVERNMENT
12:07:18PM SPENDING, THAT $3 MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR STORMWATER,
12:07:23PM IF WE COULD AS BEST WE CAN FOR THE BENEFIT OF -- I THINK WE
12:07:30PM ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, SPEND THAT $3 MILLION ON
12:07:34PM AREAS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET REIMBURSED IN ANOTHER WAY.
12:07:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK VEHICLES DOES THAT FOR STAFF.
12:07:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, MIRANDA, CARLSON,
12:07:46PM AND THEN WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:07:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
12:07:50PM YES, I THINK THIS $1.8 MILLION AMOUNT IS MARVELOUS.
12:07:56PM IT'S SO FUNNY, WHENEVER I TALK TO PEOPLE, MY CONSTITUENTS
12:07:58PM ALWAYS GO, YEAH, I'LL PUSH ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
12:08:01PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THANK YOU.
12:08:02PM I MEAN THAT.
12:08:03PM THANK YOU.
12:08:03PM I MEAN THIS, WE TALK ABOUT THE LEGACY OF A MAN LIKE POPE
12:08:08PM FRANCIS WHO LIVED A LIFE OF COMPASSION.
12:08:11PM THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT HERE IN TAMPA THAT NEED A LOT OF
12:08:14PM COMPASSION AND ASSISTANCE.
12:08:16PM JUST LAST WEEK, I WAS AT A HOME OF SOME FOLKS REALLY, REALLY
12:08:20PM GOOD PEOPLE.
12:08:21PM THE HUSBAND IS FROM A CUBAN REFUGEE FAMILY.
12:08:24PM THE WIFE IS EL SALVADOR IMMIGRANT AND THEY WORK VERY, VERY
12:08:28PM HARD.
12:08:28PM THEY HAVE THREE CHILDREN.
12:08:29PM THEY GOT FLOODED AND THEY ARE STILL LIVING IN THEIR MOLDY,
12:08:33PM FLOODED HOME IN NORTH TAMPA.
12:08:35PM I'M GOING TO VISIT A GENTLEMAN THIS WEEKEND LIVING IN HIS
12:08:37PM TRAILER IN HIS FRONT YARD IN NORTH TAMPA.
12:08:41PM AND THEN HAD SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND NOW HAS TO
12:08:44PM LIVE BACK IN HIS MOLDY HOUSE.
12:08:46PM WE'RE ABOUT HALF A YEAR AFTER MILTON AND THESE FOLKS ARE
12:08:51PM STILL RIGHT NOW GOING THROUGH HELL.
12:08:53PM THE GOOD THING ABOUT THESE DOLLARS IS, AND I ALWAYS GIVE A
12:08:56PM SHOUT-OUT TO ABBYE FEELEY FOR THE HARD WORK SHE DID FOR THE
12:09:00PM FIRST $3.2 MILLION IS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE, I
12:09:04PM BELIEVE, THOSE STRICT INCOME THRESHOLDS THAT WE HAD FOR THE
12:09:08PM INITIAL PROGRAM BECAUSE STATE OF FLORIDA DOLLARS BECAUSE A
12:09:11PM LOT OF PEOPLE I'VE HEARD WHO ARE WORKING CLASS AND BLUE
12:09:16PM COLLAR FAMILIES HAVE BEEN POTENTIALLY TURNED AWAY FROM THAT,
12:09:20PM SO WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT LIBERALITY WITH THAT.
12:09:23PM I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
12:09:25PM THIS IS, BY THE WAY, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE I HEAR ABOUT,
12:09:28PM AGAIN, I'M DISTRICT 7, NORTH OF NEW TAMPA, AND THE NUMBER
12:09:31PM ONE ISSUE THAT I HEAR IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR THIS
12:09:34PM STORM SEASON.
12:09:35PM SO WE HAD THAT MEETING IN NORTH TAMPA WHERE STAFF WAS SO
12:09:39PM NICE TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE DOING
12:09:41PM IMMEDIATELY, WHAT WILL WE DO LONG TERM AND, BY THE WAY, WHAT
12:09:44PM ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LOST EVERYTHING, WHO
12:09:47PM ARE MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING CLASS, LOWER INCOME PEOPLE AND
12:09:52PM DIDN'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY LIVED IN ZONE X.
12:09:55PM SO THIS GOES A LONG WAY.
12:09:56PM AGAIN, CAN WE HIT A HOME RUN WITH THIS?
12:09:58PM ABSOLUTELY NOT.
12:09:58PM BUT IF WE DON'T AT LEAST TRY TO HIT A SINGLE OR DOUBLE, THEN
12:10:03PM DAMN US BECAUSE THESE ARE, AGAIN, REALLY GOOD WORKING
12:10:07PM PEOPLE.
12:10:07PM I WILL TELL YOU THIS, WHICH IS PEOPLE HAVEN'T SHOWED UP TO
12:10:13PM CITY COUNCIL AND FLOODED CITY COUNCIL AND PUBLIC COMMENT
12:10:15PM ONLY BECAUSE THEY SEE THE FIRST $3 MILLION, BUT PEOPLE ARE
12:10:19PM EXPECTING MORE MONEY TO COME.
12:10:21PM I DON'T MEAN THAT, THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING MORE MONEY TO
12:10:24PM COME LIKE, OH, GOD, THEY ARE ENTITLED.
12:10:27PM NO, THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH HELL.
12:10:29PM LOST THEIR HOUSE.
12:10:30PM STILL WORKING, PROVIDING FOR THEIR KIDS.
12:10:32PM LISTEN, WE PAY TAXES, WHAT IS GOVERNMENT GOING TO DO TO HELP
12:10:35PM US?
12:10:36PM THAT'S NOT AN UNREASONABLE QUESTION AT ALL, ESPECIALLY FOR A
12:10:39PM SOCIETY THAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK GOVERNMENT
12:10:42PM FIGHTS FOR THEM.
12:10:42PM I'M 110% BEHIND THIS.
12:10:45PM THIS IS MORE MONEY THAN I WAS PLANNING ON ASKING FOR.
12:10:48PM AGAIN, WELL DONE.
12:10:49PM MY HAT IS OFF.
12:10:51PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:10:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND CARLSON.
12:10:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO
12:10:56PM AND THE MONEY IS SHORT.
12:10:57PM SHORT TO FIX WHAT WE HAVE TO FIX.
12:11:00PM LOOK AT POTHOLES, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A POTHOLE AND CAVE-IN.
12:11:04PM POTHOLE DUMP A FEW FEET OF WEIGHT OF ASPHALT ON THE SURFACE,
12:11:10PM THEN REALLY FIXED FOR NEXT SIX MONTHS, A YEAR.
12:11:15PM A CAVE, IN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE.
12:11:17PM RIGHT NOW A BLOCK OR TWO FROM WHERE I LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE,
12:11:21PM 2800 BLOCK, FOUR CAVE-INS IN THE SAME ROAD.
12:11:25PM ONE YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
12:11:27PM MacDILL AVENUE ALREADY THREE, BABY ONES BUT GROWING AND
12:11:36PM FINALLY THEY PUT ALL THE BOARDS UP SO YOU DON'T HIT THEM.
12:11:40PM TELL YOU TO DRIVE AROUND THEM.
12:11:42PM IF YOU LOOK FURTHER SOUTH ON MacDILL, YOU HAVE THE SAME
12:11:46PM THING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BAY TO BAY.
12:11:48PM IT'S EVERYWHERE.
12:11:50PM IT'S LIKE A MEASLES WITHOUT THE -- GETTING THE INJECTION TO
12:11:56PM AVOID THE MEASLES.
12:11:57PM I'M NOT AGAINST RESURFACING, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT
12:12:06PM STORMWATER, PEOPLE CAN LOSE THEIR LIFE IN STORMWATER.
12:12:10PM IT TAKES SOMEONE TO LOSE THEIR LIFE IN A SIDEWALK.
12:12:16PM IT HAPPENS, BUT DURING A HURRICANE, YOU HAVE MORE OF AN
12:12:19PM OPPORTUNITY TO LOSE YOUR LIFE IN STORMWATER ON A QUICK RUSH
12:12:22PM OF WATER THAN YOU DO WALKING ON A SIDEWALK BECAUSE YOU DON'T
12:12:25PM WALK ON THE SIDEWALK IN THE RAIN, WHEN THERE IS A HURRICANE
12:12:27PM COMING.
12:12:28PM I'M NOT AGAINST SIDEWALKS.
12:12:30PM LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN.
12:12:31PM BUT WHEN I SEE THE NEED FOR THE TWO TOP ONES, FLOODING
12:12:38PM ASSISTANCE, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:12:40PM PAVING AND RESURFACING, I DEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THE
12:12:44PM ROADS ARE IN TERRIBLE SHAPE AND LIKE ALL THE OTHER COUNCIL
12:12:46PM MEMBERS WHO HAVE SPOKEN, THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE CALL I GET.
12:12:49PM BUT THE DEVIL THAT HASN'T SHOWN UP IS THAT THREE, YESTERDAY,
12:12:54PM I WAS WATCHING EITHER CHANNEL 8 OR CHANNEL 13 AND THEY SAID
12:12:58PM 3.8 DEGREES WARMER THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME THE
12:13:02PM BAY.
12:13:02PM IF I RECALL WHAT I SAW.
12:13:04PM IF THIS HAPPENS AND IT COMES THIS WAY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE
12:13:08PM ANY BETTER THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR.
12:13:10PM MORE THAN LIKELY IT WOULD BE WORSE, IF IT COMES THIS WAY.
12:13:14PM NOW WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE TO MAKE.
12:13:16PM WHAT DO WE DO?
12:13:16PM DO WE DO ALL THE PAVING WITH 7 MILLION?
12:13:19PM NO.
12:13:20PM IT DOESN'T SOLVE IT.
12:13:21PM IT HELPS SOMEWHERE, BUT IT DOESN'T SOLVE IT.
12:13:23PM BUT THE STORMWATER IN DIFFERENT AREAS, NOT ONLY IN SOUTH
12:13:26PM TAMPA, BUT ALL UP AND DOWN SOUTH KENNEDY BOULEVARD, IT'S
12:13:30PM FLOODED.
12:13:30PM ALL UP AND DOWN PARKLAND BOULEVARD, PARKLAND AREA WHERE IT
12:13:36PM FLOODED.
12:13:36PM SOME PLACES WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FLOODED, IT FLOODED.
12:13:42PM NOW DIFFERENT PUMPS, HIGHER GRADE, INSTEAD OF UNDERGROUND,
12:13:46PM ABOVEGROUND, UNDER THE STORMWATER PRESSURE STOP WORKING AND
12:13:51PM THEN THE RESERVE PUMP DIDN'T WORK, THAT'S WHAT I HEAR, SO WE
12:13:54PM OUGHT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THAT TO MAKE SURE ALL
12:13:56PM THE PUMPS ARE WORKING SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST ALLEVIATE SOME
12:14:00PM OF THE FLOODING WATERS AND PREVENT FLOODING.
12:14:02PM NOT GOING TO STOP IT ALL, BUT MAYBE WE CAN PREVENT THE
12:14:05PM FLOODING OF HOMES INSIDE.
12:14:07PM ME, I LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE GOING TO STORMWATER.
12:14:13PM I KNOW THE VEHICLES ARE NEEDED, BUT IN STORMWATER, THE PUMPS
12:14:18PM HUNDRED PERCENT -- I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN INSTALLED
12:14:22PM YET.
12:14:22PM NOT SURE.
12:14:23PM MAYBE THEY HAVE.
12:14:23PM I'M NOT AWARE OF IT.
12:14:25PM STORMWATER NEEDS A LITTLE MORE ACTION THAN I FEEL.
12:14:27PM MAYBE WE CAN GRAB A MILLION FROM SIDEWALKS AND PUT IN
12:14:30PM STORMWATER TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
12:14:32PM FLOODED ARE NOT GOING TO FLOOD AGAIN.
12:14:35PM IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO FLOOD A NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:14:38PM JUST ONE OR TWO LITTLE THINGS THAT DOESN'T WORK AND YOU'RE
12:14:40PM IN TROUBLE.
12:14:41PM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS I HAVE, SIDEWALK, YOU'LL GET MONEY
12:14:45PM FROM WHATEVER IT IS.
12:14:47PM WHEN YOU BUILD A HOUSE OR DON'T BUILD A HOUSE, YOU HAVE TO
12:14:50PM PAY.
12:14:50PM THAT'S GOING TO HELP.
12:14:51PM I KNOW YOU HAVE A STORMWATER ASSESSMENT FEE AND OTHER FEES
12:14:55PM THERE, IT'S NOT WORKING TO THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE SPENT.
12:14:59PM WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY TO SPEND EVEN ONCE WE COLLECT IT.
12:15:03PM THE AREA IS CHANGING.
12:15:04PM THE ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS IN
12:15:07PM SOME WAY OR ANOTHER, NOT BY US BUT ALL OF US IN THE UNITED
12:15:11PM STATES.
12:15:11PM NOW WE'RE PAYING THE PRICE FOR IT.
12:15:14PM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IN THE
12:15:16PM ENVIRONMENT.
12:15:16PM I KNOW ALL THAT.
12:15:17PM THAT'S WONDERFUL.
12:15:18PM GOD BLESS THEM.
12:15:19PM ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS, THIS IS REALITY.
12:15:21PM THIS IS NOT THE GONG SHOW.
12:15:24PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
12:15:25PM THIS IS A REAL THING AND WE HAVE TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO
12:15:32PM STORMWATER TO AVOID THE PROBLEM WE HAD BEFORE.
12:15:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN PUBLIC
12:15:36PM COMMENT.
12:15:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK
12:15:42PM AND ALSO THE VFO FOR THE TRANSPARENCY ON THIS.
12:15:46PM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS THE LONGEST DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD ON
12:15:51PM THIS ISSUE.
12:15:51PM IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS.
12:15:53PM IF YOU NOTICE THE TWO THINGS IN THE MIDDLE SET ASIDE FOR
12:15:56PM PROPERTY TAX REVENUE REDUCTIONS, SET-ASIDES -- OH, IT'S NOT
12:16:00PM UP.
12:16:00PM SET ASIDE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR INSURANCE INCREASES.
12:16:05PM ALSO, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THE TARIFFS AND EVERYTHING WHAT
12:16:07PM THE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
12:16:10PM I THINK THE BEST COURSE IS TO HOLD OFF ON THIS FOR 90 DAYS
12:16:14PM AND SEE WHAT -- WHETHER THIS NUMBER IS REAL OR NOT.
12:16:18PM WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE MONTHS UNTIL THE END OF THE FISCAL
12:16:21PM YEAR.
12:16:22PM SO MANY THINGS CAN CHANGE.
12:16:24PM WE'RE IN A VOLATILE MARKET OUT THERE.
12:16:26PM SO MANY THINGS CAN CHANGE THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S
12:16:29PM GOING TO END UP.
12:16:31PM ALSO, ANOTHER THING NOT ON THERE, I'VE HEARD QUESTIONS ABOUT
12:16:34PM WHETHER WE SHOULD SHORE UP THE PENSION RESERVES.
12:16:39PM I'LL HAVE SIDE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THAT.
12:16:41PM WE ALSO KNOW THAT POLICE ARE UNDERFUNDED AND FIRE ARE
12:16:45PM UNDERFUNDED.
12:16:47PM WE NEED TO FIRST FIND OUT, THOUGH, IS THIS NUMBER REAL?
12:16:49PM I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS REAL.
12:16:51PM IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WON'T BE A CONSENSUS AROUND SAVING THE
12:16:55PM MONEY RIGHT NOW.
12:16:56PM I THINK THE PRUDENT THING TO DO WOULD BE TO SAVE IT.
12:16:59PM THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS ADDED MORE
12:17:02PM DEBT THAN ANY ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY.
12:17:05PM BY THE TIME THEY ARE DONE WITH WHAT THEY ARE ADDING RIGHT
12:17:09PM NOW IN TWO YEARS, PROBABLY THE DEBT WILL BE UP AROUND 2.2,
12:17:12PM 2.3 BILLION.
12:17:14PM RIGHT NOW THE REVENUES ARE 1.9 BILLION.
12:17:16PM SO TO SOME EXTENT, AND THE INTEREST ON THAT RIGHT NOW IS 900
12:17:22PM MILLION OVER 30 YEARS, NOT ALL CREATED BY THIS
12:17:24PM ADMINISTRATION.
12:17:25PM A WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, IF YOU HAVE FREE CASH FLOW RIGHT
12:17:29PM NOW, WE WON'T HAVE AS MUCH IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE PAYING
12:17:32PM INTEREST, IN EFFECT PAYING DOUBLE FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
12:17:35PM THE REASON WE HAVE ANY CASH AT ALL, WE'RE PUTTING SO MUCH
12:17:38PM DEBT ON THINGS.
12:17:39PM AND WE SHOULD DO PAY-GO WHEN WE CAN, BUT IF WE HAVE ANY
12:17:43PM MONEY, IT SHOULD PROBABLY GO TO SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY
12:17:47PM ALLOCATED.
12:17:48PM BECAUSE IF IT'S A HUNDRED MILLION AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
12:17:49PM PAY A HUNDRED MILLION IN INTEREST, WE SHOULD SAVE INTEREST
12:17:52PM ON THINGS WE ALREADY SPENT MONEY ON.
12:17:53PM JUST LIKE YOU WOULD DO IN YOUR HOUSE.
12:17:55PM THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS PAY DOWN THE CREDIT CARD.
12:17:57PM YOU DON'T SAY, WELL, I MAXED OUT THREE CREDIT CARDS, SO NOW
12:17:59PM I'M GOING TO GO SPEND MY BONUS ON SOMETHING ELSE.
12:18:02PM YOU PAY DOWN YOUR CREDIT CARDS INSTEAD.
12:18:05PM IN TERMS OF THE 14 MILLION, THE 7 AND 7, I HUNDRED PERCENT
12:18:10PM AGREE WITH THAT.
12:18:11PM IF NO CONSENSUS TO SAVE THE REST OF THE MONEY FOR A TIME, I
12:18:14PM WILL GO ALONG WITH SOME VERSION OF WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED.
12:18:18PM I AM CONCERNED.
12:18:19PM IN TERMS OF STORMWATER, WE HAVE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT,
12:18:23PM THAT'S $65 MILLION FROM A SPECIALIZED TAX THAT'S BEING HELD
12:18:27PM UP.
12:18:27PM WE KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE.
12:18:29PM 10 OF THE 11 HOUSES THAT FLOODED IN PARKLAND ESTATES HAVE
12:18:33PM ALREADY RENOVATED.
12:18:35PM ALL OF THOSE HOUSES ARE GOING TO GET FLOODED AGAIN THIS
12:18:38PM SUMMER.
12:18:38PM STORMWATER TESTIFIED THEY ARE GOING TO FLOOD EVERY TIME
12:18:40PM THERE IS A MAJOR RAIN OR STORM OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
12:18:44PM WHY ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO BE FLOODED AGAIN THIS
12:18:47PM SUMMER WHEN WE'RE WAITING ON A PROJECT THAT'S ONLY GOING TO
12:18:50PM PROTECT THEM FOUR YEARS FROM NOW AND ONLY ON A SMALL LEVEL
12:18:54PM AND IT'S NOT GOING TO PROTECT THEM IN A HEAVY STORM.
12:18:56PM WE CAN REDIRECT THE 65 MILLION, WHICH IS 130 MILLION BECAUSE
12:18:59PM WE'RE ADDING INTEREST, WE CAN REDIRECT THE MONEY NOW AND
12:19:02PM SPEND 65 MILLION IN MAINTENANCE.
12:19:03PM EVEN PALMA CEIA PINES, WHICH IS NORTH OF PARKLAND, THE CITY
12:19:08PM HAS DONE SOME THINGS TURNING THE ROADS AND OTHERS.
12:19:11PM I'VE BEEN UP THERE, LISTENING TO CALLS OF PEOPLE DESPERATE
12:19:14PM BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GET FLOODED.
12:19:16PM REGULAR MAINTENANCE HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
12:19:18PM WE'VE GOT 65 MILLION RIGHT THERE THAT WOULD TRANSFORM THE
12:19:23PM ENVIRONMENT FOR THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT GOT FLOODED IN
12:19:26PM OUR COMMUNITY.
12:19:26PM IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT STORMWATER IN HERE, I WISH WE WOULD
12:19:30PM ADD THE WORD MAINTENANCE.
12:19:31PM IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO BUILD ANY BIG INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
12:19:35PM IT IS THE SAME THING, I DISAGREE ON THE SOUTH HOWARD
12:19:38PM PROJECT.
12:19:39PM HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT WE KNOW ISN'T GOING TO WORK.
12:19:42PM WHY ARE WE ALLOCATING ALL THE MONEY?
12:19:44PM THERE ARE CULVERTS BROKEN AND FLOODED.
12:19:46PM CULVERTS WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS BLOCKED.
12:19:48PM ROADS THAT NEED TO BE GRADED SO THE OUTLETS -- AND PEOPLE
12:19:51PM ARE DESPERATELY CALLING US SAYING WE JUST NEED BASIC
12:19:54PM MAINTENANCE.
12:19:55PM WE NEED THE DITCHES DREDGED.
12:19:56PM WE NEED THE RETENTION PONDS DREDGED.
12:19:59PM WHY IS THAT NOT BEING DONE?
12:20:01PM EVEN PALMA CEIA PINES WITH ALL THE MONEY ALLOCATED.
12:20:05PM WE NEED BASIC MAINTENANCE.
12:20:07PM IT'S WORTH 3 MILLION TO DO THAT.
12:20:09PM LASTLY, NUMBER ONE CALL I GET, SAME CALLS PEOPLE GET,
12:20:13PM FEARFUL, BEING VERY PATIENT AND STORMWATER PEOPLE ARE BEING
12:20:15PM VERY GOOD.
12:20:16PM I'VE BEEN OUT TO A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS WITH STORMWATER AND
12:20:18PM THEY ARE VERY GOOD ABOUT WORKING WITH THEM.
12:20:20PM DON'T FORGET WASTEWATER.
12:20:23PM MANY NEIGHBORHOODS WERE FLOODED WITH WASTEWATER.
12:20:24PM THE NUMBER ONE CALL I GET EVERY DAY, OVERWHELMINGLY E-MAILS
12:20:27PM AND CALLS IS ABOUT ROADS.
12:20:29PM AND SOME EXTENT SIDEWALKS.
12:20:30PM IF WE DON'T FIX THE ROADS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AVALANCHE
12:20:34PM OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND CRITICIZING US.
12:20:36PM IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO
12:20:39PM ABSOLUTELY FIX THE ROADS.
12:20:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
12:20:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:20:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
12:20:44PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:20:48PM I DO THINK SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON
12:20:51PM SURFACED IS WORTH REITERATING.
12:20:54PM AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD EITHER,
12:20:58PM BUT THESE ARE VERY, VERY UNCERTAIN TIMES.
12:21:00PM YOU HAVE VOLATILITY IN THE STOCK MARKET.
12:21:02PM YOU HAVE VOLATILITY IN THE BOND MARKET.
12:21:04PM VOLATILITY WITH U.S. TREASURIES.
12:21:06PM INFLATION LOOKED LIKE IT HAD BEEN COOLING, BUT THE LATEST
12:21:10PM INFLATION FIGURES DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT REALLY THE RAMPING
12:21:14PM UP OF THE TRADE WAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MONTH.
12:21:19PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
12:21:19PM I DO THINK IT IS WORTH -- I'M NOT TRYING TO DISSUADE COUNCIL
12:21:23PM FROM DOING ANYTHING.
12:21:24PM WE ARE IN A VERY, VERY VOLATILE AND UNCERTAIN ENVIRONMENT
12:21:27PM RIGHT NOW.
12:21:28PM THANK YOU.
12:21:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:21:31PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:21:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU KNOW, BAIT AND SWITCH.
12:21:37PM MAKE IT WORSE, THEN SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
12:21:40PM IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ANYBODY.
12:21:42PM I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT.
12:21:44PM ANYWAY, I'M NOT UP THERE AND DON'T WANT TO BE UP THERE.
12:21:47PM I RECALL MY MIND TELLING ME, I BELIEVE YOU, SIR, HEAD OF THE
12:21:51PM FINANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY, SAID THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE
12:21:56PM BEST POSTURED CITIES IN THE COUNTRY, THAT WE'RE ONLY AT 23%
12:21:59PM OF OUR BORROWING CAPACITY.
12:22:01PM AM I RIGHT OR WRONG?
12:22:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T REMEMBER THE PARTICULAR PERCENTAGE.
12:22:06PM WE ARE.
12:22:07PM WE ARE BREATHING VERY, VERY RARE AIR COMPARED TO OTHER
12:22:09PM LOCALITIES.
12:22:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS ABOUT THIS
12:22:13PM ADMINISTRATION OR PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, NEVER GONE OVER THE
12:22:15PM 23%, I DON'T BELIEVE.
12:22:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
12:22:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY MIND TELLS ME THAT AND I NEVER
12:22:22PM QUESTION MY MIND.
12:22:23PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:22:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS KIND OF INTRIGUED WITH SOMETHING
12:22:29PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
12:22:32PM I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WOULD AGREE WITH THIS OR
12:22:35PM NOT.
12:22:35PM IT MAY BE PRUDENT TO HOLD THIS, MAYBE SOME OF IT NOW AND
12:22:46PM THEN HOLD BACK MORE.
12:22:50PM MOVE FORWARD ON STORMWATER, LITTLE BIT OF SIDEWALK, LITTLE
12:22:52PM BIT OF PAVING, IN SMALLER INCREMENTS AND THEN HOLD BACK ON
12:22:56PM THE DECISION MAKING UNTIL SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF THAT'S
12:23:01PM HAPPENING PERCOLATES THROUGH.
12:23:02PM AND THEN THESE UNKNOWN ITEMS THAT WE DON'T KNOW, IF WE HAVE
12:23:07PM MORE INFORMATION.
12:23:08PM I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
12:23:10PM IT INTRIGUED ME WHAT HE SAID.
12:23:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T DISAGREE.
12:23:15PM THESE ARE THE THINGS WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT OVER AND OVER
12:23:18PM AGAIN.
12:23:18PM WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT.
12:23:19PM IF WE NEED TO PULL SOME BACK, BUT THE SET-ASIDES, THE
12:23:24PM QUESTION MARKS IN DECEMBER ARE THE SAME QUESTION MARKS WE
12:23:27PM HAVE NOW.
12:23:27PM ACTUALLY, IF T & I COULD PUT UP THE SHOT, THE ELMO OR
12:23:33PM WHATEVER IT IS CALLED NOW.
12:23:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IF WE HELD BACK ON THE REPLENISHING
12:23:41PM FUNDS?
12:23:41PM DON'T SPEND THEM.
12:23:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: T & I, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT UP THE ELMO SCREEN?
12:23:48PM THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
12:23:50PM I DISAGREE BECAUSE I THINK THE PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR THIS.
12:23:54PM THEY ARE ASKING FOR US TO DO SOMETHING.
12:23:57PM ALL THE CALLS I GET.
12:23:59PM IF WE DON'T PUT THE PAVING MONEY IN NOW, WHEN ARE WE GOING
12:24:02PM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT?
12:24:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY DON'T WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TOP
12:24:06PM THREE ITEMS.
12:24:06PM WE DON'T TAKE ACTION ON THE REPLENISH, WE DON'T SPEND IT.
12:24:10PM JUST LEAVE IT THERE.
12:24:11PM ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, WE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION
12:24:14PM IN A COUPLE OR FEW MONTHS.
12:24:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ONE THING I CAN ALSO OFFER AS COUNCIL KNOWS
12:24:20PM WE WILL BE COMING IN WITH MIDYEAR REVIEW NEXT MONTH WHERE WE
12:24:24PM WILL DIVE MUCH, MUCH DEEPER INTO NOT ONLY ASPECTS OF THE
12:24:28PM WIDER ECONOMY THAT ARE AFFECTING US, BUT ALSO WHAT'S
12:24:31PM HAPPENING IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND ALSO HOW WE'RE DOING IN
12:24:34PM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, IF THAT GIVES YOU SOME COMFORT.
12:24:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE, BUT THE THING IS WE HAVE FIVE WEEKS.
12:24:43PM WE HAVE FIVE WEEKS UNTIL HURRICANE SEASON STARTS.
12:24:46PM SO THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF.
12:24:50PM SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT
12:24:53PM THEY HAVE TO SAY BEFORE WE CONTINUE ANY MORE DISCUSSION.
12:24:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPEND THE MONEY ON PAVING, SIDEWALKS,
12:25:01PM STORMWATER, FLOODING ASSISTANCE.
12:25:03PM HOLD OFF ON THE DECISION POINT ON REPLENISHING THE FUNDS.
12:25:07PM WON'T ALLOCATE IT, AT LEAST DON'T PUT IT IN AND PULL IT BACK
12:25:12PM OUT.
12:25:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE THING IS WE ALREADY SPENT THAT MONEY.
12:25:15PM IF WE DON'T REPLENISH IT, THEY HAVE TO FIND $14 MILLION FOR
12:25:20PM FY '26 TO FILL IT.
12:25:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT THEN.
12:25:24PM HOLD OFF ON THE DECISION POINT.
12:25:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WAIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:25:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY, I'M FINE WITH MOVING
12:25:31PM FORWARD ON THIS RELATIVELY SOON, BUT WE SPEAK ABOUT, THERE
12:25:36PM IS GREAT TURBULENCE IN THE MARKET AND SO FORTH, BUT FOR THE
12:25:39PM PEOPLE HELPED BY THE 1.8 MILLION, THERE IS A HELL OF A LOT
12:25:43PM OF TURBULENCE IN THEIR LIVES AND I THINK WE HAVE TO GET THE
12:25:45PM FUNDS OUT JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
12:25:47PM SO I DO THINK WE SHOULD MOVE WITH THAT WITH VIGOR.
12:25:50PM BUT THIS TO ME IS JUST A REALLY GOOD BALANCED BREAKDOWN OF
12:25:55PM OUR NEEDS.
12:25:56PM I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD GET MOVING,
12:26:01PM ESPECIALLY ON THE FLOODING ASSISTANCE RELATIVELY SOON.
12:26:04PM WE DO HAVE A REPORT COMING BACK FROM THE CITY ON THE FUNDS
12:26:07PM AND HOW THEY HAVE BEEN SPENT.
12:26:09PM AGAIN, EVERY WEEK THAT WE DELAY, AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY
12:26:12PM HAVE TO DO IT TODAY, BUT THE SOONER THE BETTER.
12:26:15PM THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
12:26:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE HAVE AN ASSESSMENT?
12:26:21PM I KEEP BALANCING THE DAMAGE AND DEVASTATION THAT HAPPENED IN
12:26:25PM SPECIFICALLY PALMETTO AND DAVIS ISLANDS AND SOUTH TAMPA.
12:26:29PM HOW MANY HOMES -- FROM THE CITY, DO WE HAVE A DAMAGE
12:26:34PM ASSESSMENT OF HOW MANY HOMES THAT WERE DESTROYED,
12:26:36PM UNINHABITABLE THAT WERE NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE AND THE
12:26:39PM LOCATION OF WHERE THEY ALL ARE?
12:26:41PM LIKE IN FOREST HILLS, HOW MANY HOUSES ARE UNINHABITABLE?
12:26:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: TONS.
12:26:50PM I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER.
12:26:52PM NORTH TAMPA, UNIVERSITY AREA, INCLUDE FOREST HILLS, OVERLOOK
12:26:55PM COMMUNITY, IF I HAD TO ESTIMATE, PROBABLY 95% OF THE PEOPLE
12:26:59PM THAT WERE THERE DON'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE.
12:27:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE IN NEW BUSINESS I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
12:27:06PM WHEN WE MAKE THE DECISIONS ON SPENDING MONEY, THAT WOULD BE
12:27:09PM HELPFUL.
12:27:10PM HOW MANY HOMES, HOW MANY FAMILIES ARE VICTIMIZED BY THIS, I
12:27:15PM WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE SPENDING THE MONEY KNOWING THE
12:27:17PM NUMBER.
12:27:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
12:27:21PM TIMBERFALLS OFF 113th, A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS JUST LEFT.
12:27:25PM AND THEY LEFT TAKING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF LOSSES
12:27:29PM AND THEY WERE ALREADY LIVING IN POVERTY. THAT NUMBER MAY BE
12:27:32PM HARD TO QUANTIFY.
12:27:33PM I DO KNOW THIS WILL BE, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, A DROP IN THE
12:27:37PM BUCKET.
12:27:38PM BY THE WAY, IT SHOULD BE SAID, BIG PAT ON THE BACK FOR THE
12:27:41PM CITY OF TAMPA, WHICH I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY LOCAL CITY OR
12:27:44PM LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMUNITY REALLY DOING SOMETHING ON THIS.
12:27:47PM THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE RELYING ON FEDERAL FUNDS THAT GOD
12:27:54PM WILLING WILL COME THROUGH.
12:27:56PM WE CREATED THIS PROGRAM.
12:27:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT TO JUMP ON COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
12:28:00PM DISTRICT, BUT THERE WAS SO MUCH DEVASTATION.
12:28:02PM I THINK PEOPLE THINK EVERYBODY IN SOUTH TAMPA IS RICH AND
12:28:05PM THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
12:28:06PM WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF
12:28:11PM RETIRED PEOPLE THAT HAD THEIR HOUSES FOREVER.
12:28:14PM A LOT OF MINORITY POPULATION IN CERTAIN AREAS.
12:28:17PM IT WAS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY DESTROYER.
12:28:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO RESPOND, STORMWATER HAS A GIS
12:28:32PM MAP HOUSE BY HOUSE, THEY HAVE THEM COLOR CODED AS TO WHETHER
12:28:36PM THEY HAD INSURANCE, WHAT KIND OF FLOODING THEY GOT.
12:28:38PM YOU CAN GO NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD, HOUSE BY HOUSE.
12:28:41PM IT'S PRETTY DEVASTATING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING.
12:28:46PM LASTLY, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT MONEY, WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT
12:28:53PM OF MONEY AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
12:28:56PM THE BIGGEST BANG ON STORMS IS TO PREVENT FLOODING FOR WHOLE
12:29:00PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
12:29:00PM SO IF WE CAN PUT MONEY IN THAT WILL AT LEAST PROVIDE
12:29:06PM MAINTENANCE, WE SAVE MAYBE HUNDREDS OF HOMES AT A TIME AND
12:29:09PM SO WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT.
12:29:11PM THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, IS THAT IF -- BECAUSE OF VOLATILITY
12:29:16PM IN THE MARKET, IF THAT 26 MILLION PLUS 26 MILLION SUDDENLY
12:29:20PM IN THREE, FOUR MONTHS TURNS INTO MINUS 26 MILLION, WE EITHER
12:29:24PM HAVE TO CUT SOMETHING OR RAISE TAXES OR FEES OR TAKE ON MORE
12:29:28PM DEBT.
12:29:28PM SO THAT ULTIMATELY IS A HUGE BURDEN ON THE MARKET AND WE
12:29:31PM KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT MORE TAXES.
12:29:34PM THANK YOU.
12:29:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:29:36PM NOW WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:29:37PM THE SPEAKERS I HAVE ARE STEPHANIE POYNOR FOLLOWED BY TARA
12:29:40PM AND THEN AMY.
12:29:41PM THOSE ARE THE THREE PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
12:29:44PM I SEE AMY SCOTT AND TARA BLOOMA.
12:29:53PM I DIDN'T WANT TO BUTCHER THE NAMES, SO I JUST SAID TARA IN
12:29:55PM CASE I SAID IT WRONG.
12:29:56PM YES, MA'AM.
12:30:07PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
12:30:09PM I DO DRAG A BUNCH OF CRAP AROUND AND SOMETIMES IT'S WORTH
12:30:13PM DRAGGING OUT.
12:30:14PM I SHOW WITH THESE EIGHT PAGES THAT WE HAVE FOR STORMWATER
12:30:18PM ASSESSMENT, 73 MILLION COMING IN AND 63 MILLION COMING OUT.
12:30:22PM YOU ALL KNOW THAT MY COMMUNITY WAS AS IMPACTED AS ANY OTHER
12:30:29PM COMMUNITY OR MORE THAN ANYPLACE ELSE IN THE CITY.
12:30:33PM I ACTUALLY ASKED ABBYE FEELEY FOR A REPRESENTATION OF WHERE
12:30:36PM THE FLOODING WAS AND WHICH HOUSES WERE SUPPOSEDLY 50% OR
12:30:39PM MORE DAMAGED IN THE CITY.
12:30:40PM I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YET, BUT SHE DID RESPOND AND SAY SHE'S
12:30:44PM WORKING ON IT.
12:30:44PM ANNELISE MYERS ASKED NANCY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DETAILS OF
12:30:52PM STORMWATER FUNDING.
12:30:53PM IT WAS ABOUT 16 MILLION LAST YEAR FOR REGULAR STORMWATER AND
12:30:57PM THEN STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT WAS ANOTHER 16 MILLION.
12:31:00PM THAT'S 32.
12:31:01PM AS OF JANUARY 1st, IT WAS 26 MILLION FOR THIS YEAR.
12:31:05PM I'M SORRY, BUT THAT IS A LOT OF STINKING MONEY.
12:31:09PM I THINK WE NEED TO PULL OUR STORMWATER PEOPLE OFF OF PARADE
12:31:12PM DUTY WHERE THEY LOSE FOUR DAYS OF WORKING TIME, EVERY TIME
12:31:16PM WE HAVE A PARADE, CHAIR MANISCALCO POINTED OUT THAT HE
12:31:21PM COUNTED SIX OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD.
12:31:23PM THAT'S 24 DAYS IN A YEAR THAT THEY ARE NOT WORKING ON
12:31:26PM STORMWATER, THAT THEY ARE SETTING UP AND BREAKING DOWN FOR
12:31:28PM PARADES.
12:31:30PM ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE THE GASPARILLA RUNS, ALL THOSE,
12:31:32PM THEY ARE PULLED OFF OF STORMWATER TO DO THOSE THINGS.
12:31:36PM IT'S THE WRONG DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT.
12:31:39PM I 100% AGREE THAT NUMBER ONE NEEDS TO BE PAVING.
12:31:43PM NUMBER TWO NEEDS TO BE SIDEWALKS.
12:31:45PM I THINK WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THOSE FOLKS WHO
12:31:48PM WERE DAMAGED.
12:31:49PM I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE MONIES WENT SO FAR, WHAT PART OF
12:31:53PM TOWN THEY HAVE ALL BEEN TO.
12:31:55PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY FOLKS IN PORT TAMPA WHO LOST
12:31:59PM EVERYTHING ARE GETTING SOME OF THAT AS WELL.
12:32:05PM I HAVE A HARD TIME WHEN WE'VE GOT ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS,
12:32:09PM FOR PAVING WE HAVE LIKE ONE.
12:32:11PM PAVING WE HAVE LIKE ONE.
12:32:14PM AND THERE ARE LOTS OF PLACES IN THE CITY, AND THIS IS WHERE
12:32:16PM I GET INTO, I'M NOT JUST TALKING FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE
12:32:20PM ARE LOTS OF PLACES IN THE CITY WHO DID NOT FLOOD.
12:32:23PM THEY PAY INTO THE STORMWATER FUND.
12:32:26PM THOSE FOLKS DESERVE TO HAVE GOOD ROADS TO DRIVE ON TOO.
12:32:30PM AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT THIS REALLY MATTERS.
12:32:32PM SOMEBODY WROTE AN ARTICLE ABOUT CRAs THREE OR FOUR MONTHS
12:32:35PM AGO AND SOMEBODY ASKED ME, WHY DID THIS PERSON COMPARE
12:32:38PM CRAs TO ROAD PAVING BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY GIVES A CRAP
12:32:41PM ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT THEY ALL CARE ABOUT THEIR ROADS.
12:32:44PM AND THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT RIGHT.
12:32:48PM AND WE CARE ABOUT SIDEWALKS, AS THEY OBVIOUSLY DO.
12:32:52PM WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SIDEWALKS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX
12:32:55PM ALL OF IT AT ONE TIME.
12:32:57PM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE EXTRA MONEY WE HAVE AND
12:32:59PM FIX THE THINGS THAT EVERY CITIZEN, EVERY TIME I GO TO A
12:33:02PM NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A NEIGHBORHOOD
12:33:04PM MEETING THAT SOMEBODY IS NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT PAVING, NOT
12:33:07PM ONE TIME EVER IN ANY PART OF THE CITY.
12:33:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER IS TARA BLOOMA AND AMY
12:33:15PM SCOTT IS THE LAST SPEAKER.
12:33:18PM >> HI.
12:33:18PM I'M TARA BLOOMA.
12:33:20PM I AGREE WITH A LOT OF YOU ON THE NEED FOR PAVING AND FOR
12:33:29PM SIDEWALK REPAIR.
12:33:29PM I LIKE THE COMPROMISE THAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND HURTAK
12:33:32PM JUST CAME UP WITH.
12:33:33PM BUT I REALLY WAS FRUSTRATED WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE
12:33:39PM RIVERWALK AND AT THE TIME THINKING WHY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY
12:33:43PM THAT WE DON'T HAVE ON THIS BONDING FOR A WANT, NOT A NEED,
12:33:49PM WHEN WE HAVE ALL THESE NEEDS.
12:33:51PM THERE WERE A LOT OF EXCUSES, A LOT OF, OH, WE'LL GET
12:33:55PM MATCHING FUNDS, GET THIS AND MAYBE OTHER MONEY.
12:33:59PM AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WAS A WANT.
12:34:01PM WANTS ARE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD SPEND THIS EXTRA MONEY
12:34:04PM THAT WE FOUND IN OUR COAT POCKET ON.
12:34:06PM AND HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE NEEDS LAST YEAR AND AT THE
12:34:11PM BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.
12:34:12PM I HATE THAT NOW, YEAH, WE HAVE THIS EXTRA 28 MILLION, BUT WE
12:34:17PM BONDED FOR SOMETHING ELSE WHEN WE COULD HAVE SPENT THIS
12:34:21PM EXTRA MONEY ON OUR WANTS.
12:34:24PM WE HAVE A PORT TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON TUESDAY
12:34:27PM EVENING.
12:34:28PM OUR NEIGHBORS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT STORMWATER
12:34:33PM SPECIFICALLY.
12:34:33PM YES, THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE WHO DID LOSE EVERYTHING AND
12:34:37PM WANT HELP RECUPERATING SOME OF THEIR FUNDS THAT THEY HAVE
12:34:43PM SPENT ON THEIR HOUSES BUT MAINTENANCE WAS THE BIGGEST
12:34:46PM CONCERN.
12:34:46PM I LOOKED ON THE MAP AND APRIL IS THE MONTH WE ARE SUPPOSED
12:34:50PM TO BE GETTING OUR MAINTENANCE DONE.
12:34:52PM I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY IN STORMWATER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO
12:34:56PM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE BEHIND, PROBABLY, BUT WE HAVEN'T
12:35:00PM GOTTEN AN UPDATE TO THE MAP OR WHEN THEY WILL BE OUT THERE.
12:35:03PM OUR DITCHES ARE OBSTRUCTED AND FULL OF WEEDS AND TRASH.
12:35:10PM WE WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE MORE MONEY SPENT ON MAINTENANCE AND
12:35:14PM DRIVING IN SOUTH TAMPA IS A HEALTH HAZARD BECAUSE OF THE
12:35:18PM ROADS.
12:35:19PM WE WOULD APPRECIATE MONEY -- IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY,
12:35:23PM THOSE ARE THE PRIORITIES I THINK YOU ARE IN LINE.
12:35:28PM I'D RATHER YOU THINK MORE CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU APPROVE MONEY
12:35:32PM WE DON'T HAVE ON WASTEFUL WANT PROJECTS.
12:35:37PM THAT'S ALL.
12:35:37PM THANK YOU.
12:35:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:35:39PM AMY SCOTT, YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.
12:35:43PM YES, MA'AM.
12:35:44PM COME ON UP AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:35:47PM >> AMY SCOTT.
12:35:49PM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU DO.
12:35:50PM THIS IS VERY INTERESTING.
12:35:52PM I DO NOT ENVY YOUR JOBS BECAUSE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE
12:35:56PM TO SPEND EVERYTHING WOULD DRIVE ME CRAZY.
12:35:58PM I WILL SAY PART OF BEING IN SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND ALSO
12:36:03PM SOMEONE WHO DRIVES HERE IN TAMPA, EVEN THOUGH I AM TAKING
12:36:05PM THE ONE NOW A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, I
12:36:09PM WILL SAY THE STORMWATER IS DEFINITELY A MAJOR PRIORITY FOR
12:36:16PM OUR COMMUNITY.
12:36:17PM THE ROADS ARE TERRIBLE.
12:36:18PM THE ROADS HAVE BEEN TERRIBLE.
12:36:19PM EVEN IF YOU ADD MORE MONEY TO THE ROADS, THE ROADS ARE STILL
12:36:22PM GOING TO BE TERRIBLE IF THEY KEEP GETTING FLOODED, IF WE
12:36:25PM DON'T DEAL WITH WHY THE ROADS KEEP GETTING WHATNOT.
12:36:29PM AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THINGS CONTINUE TO FLOOD, IF YOU
12:36:31PM LOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, PEOPLE CAN'T COME BACK IN THEIR HOMES,
12:36:35PM THAT BECOMES MORE OF A PRIORITY THAN THE ROADS.
12:36:37PM NO ONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW BAD THE ROADS ARE WHEN THEY
12:36:40PM DON'T HAVE A HOME TO LIVE IN OR WHEN A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD
12:36:42PM COMES OUT.
12:36:43PM AGAIN, I DON'T ENVY THE DECISION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE.
12:36:46PM I WOULD TRY TO ENCOURAGE YOU, DEFINITELY, WE NEED TO DO
12:36:49PM SOMETHING ABOUT OUR STORMWATER.
12:36:50PM WE NEED TO FIX THAT PROBLEM.
12:36:52PM IT MIGHT NOT BE FANCY.
12:36:55PM I HAVE LEARNED SITTING ON CIVIC ASSOCIATION, MOST PEOPLE
12:36:58PM DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW CIVIC GOVERNMENT WORKS.
12:37:01PM THEY THINK THE ONLY STAY TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR ARE THE RAISED.
12:37:05PM THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK MONEY GOES TOWARD.
12:37:08PM THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THEIR MONEY GOES TOWARDS OTHER THINGS.
12:37:11PM SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO THE THANKLESS JOB THAT MAY NOT BE
12:37:14PM SEEN.
12:37:14PM AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT BENEFITS THEM THE MOST WHEN THEY
12:37:17PM ARE NOT HOMELESS OR LIVING IN MOLDY HOMES OR ALL THE OTHER
12:37:20PM THINGS THAT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ARE ON THE HORIZON.
12:37:23PM AGAIN, WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED TO DO WITH THE BUDGET, PLEASE
12:37:30PM MAKE SURE THAT THE STORMWATER IS A MAJOR PRIORITY, EVEN OVER
12:37:33PM THE PAVING OF THE ROADS AND THE POTHOLES.
12:37:36PM EVEN IF WE FIX ALL OUR ROADS IN TAMPA, PEOPLE WOULD STILL
12:37:39PM COMPLAIN BECAUSE THE COUNTY AND STATE DON'T FIX THEIR ROADS
12:37:42PM IN THE CITY LIMITS AND THEY WILL BLAME IT ON YOU ANYWAY.
12:37:45PM AT THE END OF THE DAY, DO WHAT'S BEST FOR PEOPLE WHEN IT
12:37:48PM COMES TO THEIR LIVES, NOT JUST THEIR PROPERTY.
12:37:50PM THAT STUFF CAN BE REPAIRED BECAUSE, AGAIN, MOST PEOPLE DON'T
12:37:55PM KNOW REALLY WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS GO AS A WHOLE.
12:37:59PM THEY THINK IT IS JUST THE ROADS.
12:38:00PM THAT'S WHAT THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MOST.
12:38:02PM IT WAS TERRIBLE WATCHING ALL THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH SEMINOLE
12:38:07PM HEIGHTS, THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEY GOT FLOODED OUT.
12:38:12PM THOSE PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE THE MEANS.
12:38:14PM I TALKED TO FEMA.
12:38:15PM I HAD NO IDEA THERE IS A NATIONAL FLOOD PROGRAM THAT IS
12:38:21PM SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER.
12:38:22PM WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT.
12:38:24PM SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO PUT OUT THERE.
12:38:26PM THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU DO.
12:38:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU HAVE A MOTION
12:38:30PM ON THE FLOOR.
12:38:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE COULD HAVE THE ELMO BACK UP.
12:38:35PM WHAT IS IT CALLED NOW.
12:38:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE WOLF VISION.
12:38:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SORRY.
12:38:39PM WOLF VISION.
12:38:40PM I THINK MY MOTION IS JUST GOING TO BE WHAT'S ON WOLF VISION,
12:38:46PM WHICH IS 5 MILLION TO PAVING AND RESURFACING, 2 MILLION TO
12:38:51PM SIDEWALKS, 3 MILLION TO STORMWATER MAINTENANCE, $1.8 MILLION
12:38:55PM TO FLOODING ASSISTANCE, AND THE THING IS, IF WE REPLENISH
12:39:02PM THE EMERGENCY FUNDING AND HAVE TO PULL IT OUT, WE COULD.
12:39:04PM I THINK WE SHOULD EARMARK IT.
12:39:08PM I PERSONALLY BELIEVE, I THINK THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
12:39:12PM THING WE HAVE TO DO IS PUT THE $14 MILLION BACK.
12:39:15PM I WOULD MOTION AS PRESENTED ON THE WOLF VISION AND AS I JUST
12:39:23PM READ.
12:39:24PM 7 MILLION WOULD GO BACK TO REPLENISHING THE EMERGENCY FUND
12:39:27PM FOR '25 AND 7 MILLION FOR '24.
12:39:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
12:39:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
12:39:33PM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND MIRANDA.
12:39:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO COUNCIL, I
12:39:40PM THINK, SINCE THESE ARE CITY DOLLARS, THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY
12:39:46PM HAVE MORE LIBERALIZED INCOME THRESHOLDS FOR THEM WHICH IS
12:39:50PM REALLY GOOD BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S A LOT
12:39:53PM OF PEOPLE IN NORTH TAMPA, FOREST HILLS, DIFFERENT AREAS WHO
12:39:56PM MAY HAVE BEEN CUT OFF, PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:39:59PM WHEN COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND CARLSON TALK ABOUT SOUTH
12:40:04PM TAMPA, THERE IS A TON OF WORKING CLASS, BLUE COLLAR PEOPLE
12:40:08PM IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:40:10PM THERE IS A TON OUT THERE AND A LOT OF THEM GOT HIT IN THE
12:40:13PM STORM.
12:40:14PM SO THIS WILL ADDITIONALLY ALSO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT THEM IF WE
12:40:19PM WERE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBER THRESHOLDS.
12:40:22PM AGAIN, THIS IS A GREAT PACKAGE.
12:40:24PM I'M SUPPORTIVE.
12:40:25PM THANK YOU.
12:40:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STORMWATER WENT UP A LITTLE BIT?
12:40:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, 3 MILLION.
12:40:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT WAS LESS THAN THAT BEFORE.
12:40:36PM THAT'S FINE.
12:40:38PM I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
12:40:39PM LET ME SAY THIS, NO MATTER WHAT DISTRICT YOU'RE FROM, WHEN
12:40:43PM YOU VOTE HERE, YOU VOTE CITYWIDE.
12:40:45PM WE'RE ALL CITYWIDE EVEN THOUGH YOU REPRESENT A DISTRICT.
12:40:49PM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
12:40:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
12:40:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:40:52PM AYE.
12:40:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:40:53PM MR. SHELBY.
12:40:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M GOING TO ASK IF WE CAN MAKE A COPY OF
12:40:59PM THAT TO GIVE TO THE CLERK FOR THE RECORD JUST SO WE HAVE
12:41:01PM THAT.
12:41:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CERTAINLY.
12:41:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, YEAH.
12:41:05PM MS. SCHARF, COULD YOU DO THAT?
12:41:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.
12:41:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WITH COLORED PEN.
12:41:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER 5.
12:41:23PM WE HAVE 19 MINUTES LEFT IN THE WORKSHOP.
12:41:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: POSTSCRIPT THE DISCUSSION, I WANT COUNCIL
12:41:29PM TO KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS IS.
12:41:31PM THIS FUNDING REMAINS UNBUDGETED.
12:41:34PM THESE MOTIONS BACK TO THE MAYOR.
12:41:37PM THANK YOU.
12:41:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. ROGERO, WHEN WOULD WE FIND OUT WHETHER
12:41:44PM THE MAYOR APPROVES THESE?
12:41:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'LL CIRCLE BACK TO YOU
12:41:49PM WITH A TIME ESTIMATE AFTER I DISCUSS IT.
12:41:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, MAYBE DURING AN ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE
12:41:54PM IN THE NEXT FEW -- JUST SO THAT WAY WE FIND OUT WHETHER --
12:41:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETING NEXT THURSDAY.
12:42:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OR THE THURSDAY AFTER.
12:42:03PM I ASK THAT YOU UPDATE US WHEN YOU HAVE AN ANSWER AT THE
12:42:06PM ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
12:42:07PM DON'T YOU THINK THAT MAKES SENSE?
12:42:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, COUNCIL.
12:42:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:42:10PM THE LAST ITEM OF THE DAY -- WE COME BACK TONIGHT -- ITEM 5,
12:42:18PM PowerPoint MOTION.
12:42:19PM MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:42:21PM MS. KOPESKY, ARE YOU LEADING THE DISCUSSION ON THIS?
12:42:25PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I BELIEVE I AM.
12:42:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
12:42:28PM REMEMBER, OUR WORKSHOPS END AT 1:00.
12:42:34PM WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.
12:42:38PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND PLEASE BRING THE PRESENTATION ON
12:42:42PM UP.
12:42:42PM IT'S ON OUR SCREENS.
12:42:44PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:42:45PM HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
12:42:48PM REALLY, THIS IS PART TWO OF THE SAAF PROGRAM DISCUSSION THAT
12:42:52PM WE STARTED BACK IN JANUARY.
12:42:58PM WHAT WE TRIED TO DO, REVENUE, FINANCE AND MYSELF IS ORGANIZE
12:43:02PM THE NOTES THAT WE ALL TOOK DURING THAT LAST MEETING.
12:43:05PM WHAT I PUT ON THE FIRST SLIDE IS WHAT I WOULD CALL LIKE THE
12:43:09PM OVERARCHING THEME.
12:43:11PM BEFORE I GO THROUGH THIS, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS
12:43:14PM IF IT'S GOING TO BE MORE HELPFUL FOR ME TO PAUSE AT EACH
12:43:19PM SLIDE TO A-- BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF TOPICS
12:43:23PM OR GO --
12:43:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY SLIDES DO YOU HAVE?
12:43:26PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: TEN.
12:43:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM UNLESS A COUNCIL
12:43:28PM MEMBER RAISES A POINT.
12:43:30PM I DON'T WANT THE DISCUSSION TO GET OUT OF HAND.
12:43:39PM >> YOU ONLY HAVE 15 MINUTES.
12:43:41PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WERE LIFE CYCLES.
12:43:46PM DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TERM THAT ORGANIZATIONS
12:43:48PM SHOULD BE ABLE TO REMAIN AND PARTICIPATE.
12:43:50PM WHAT IS SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS FUNDING?
12:43:54PM WE'RE GOING TO GET A LITTLE PEEK AT THE HISTORY OF WHAT WE
12:43:58PM SPENT SPECIFICALLY IN SOCIAL ACTION ARTS AND ARTS FUNDING.
12:44:03PM I'LL STRUGGLE WITH THAT THE WHOLE TIME.
12:44:05PM OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
12:44:06PM THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF DIALOGUE AROUND CATEGORIES LAST
12:44:10PM TIME.
12:44:11PM SO I WILL BE SHOWING YOU AT LEAST THE CURRENT VERSION OF
12:44:13PM THOSE CATEGORIES AND THE MIX.
12:44:16PM AND THEN WE'LL VERY QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE EXISTING PROGRAM
12:44:20PM PROCESS AND DOCUMENTATION AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FISCAL
12:44:24PM '26 PROCESS.
12:44:25PM JUST IN TERMS OF INFORMATIONAL NOTE, AFTER GOING THROUGH AND
12:44:33PM LOOKING AT THE ORGANIZATIONS, APPROXIMATELY 57% OF THEM AND
12:44:37PM THE BUDGET NUMBER THIS YEAR IS 2.9 MILLION HAVE BEEN
12:44:44PM ALLOCATED TO ORGANIZATIONS RECEIVING FUND 10 PLUS YEARS.
12:44:48PM JUST A NOTE.
12:44:49PM THINKING BACK TO THE DIALOGUE FROM LAST TIME, THERE WAS A
12:44:52PM LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND HOW DO WE ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO
12:44:58PM PARTICIPATE.
12:45:00PM THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT FOR FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN
12:45:03PM RECEIVING FUNDING FOR FIVE OR MORE YEARS, THAT WE SHOULD PUT
12:45:07PM THEM ON A NOTIFICATION THAT THAT WILL START TO SUNSET.
12:45:11PM ONE OF THE EARLY RECOMMENDATIONS WITH A TOSS STEP IT DOWN
12:45:14PM BASICALLY FOR FISCAL '26 TO REMAIN AT THE CURRENT LEVEL.
12:45:17PM THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO DROP IT TO 75, AND THEN IN THE THIRD
12:45:21PM YEAR, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 50%.
12:45:23PM IN ADDITION, WHAT THIS WOULD REQUIRE, IF THIS IS THE
12:45:29PM DIRECTION PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE IN, OBVIOUSLY AT THE FRONT OF
12:45:33PM THE PROGRAM WHEN PEOPLE ENTER, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE
12:45:36PM NOTIFIED OF THE FIVE-YEAR MAXIMUM.
12:45:38PM ONE THING JUST TO CONSIDER, WE KNOW THAT WE BIFURCATE THE
12:45:43PM ORGANIZATIONS FOR UNDER 25,000 AND OVER 25,000.
12:45:46PM THOSE OVER 25,000 REQUIRE AN AGREEMENT.
12:45:49PM JUST IN TERMS OF THIS FIVE-YEAR MAXIMUM, ONE THING FOR THE
12:45:54PM COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD
12:45:56PM APPLY TO BOTH OF THOSE GROUPS.
12:45:58PM AND THEN LASTLY, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE.
12:46:04PM THERE WAS SOME DIALOGUE LAST TIME AROUND PART OF THE
12:46:07PM RESPONSIBILITY IS TO HELP THEM PREPARE TO MOVE INTO BEING
12:46:12PM INDEPENDENT AND HAVING OTHER OPTIONS GOING FORWARD, AND
12:46:15PM THERE WERE SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT THE CITY COULD HELP IN THAT
12:46:19PM PROCESS.
12:46:19PM IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I THINK PROBABLY A DIFFERENT MEMBER
12:46:25PM OF ADMINISTRATION WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT I
12:46:28PM KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING PERHAPS THAT WOULD GO WITH THE GRANT
12:46:32PM DEPARTMENT.
12:46:33PM WE MIGHT NOT SOLVE THAT EXACTLY TODAY, BUT I KNOW THAT WAS
12:46:36PM ONE OF THE OPEN POINTS.
12:46:37PM ALL RIGHT.
12:46:42PM SO I THINK HISTORICALLY WHAT YOU REMEMBER IS A LOT OF TIMES
12:46:45PM WE HEAR THIS $5 MILLION NUMBER.
12:46:47PM I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR TODAY AND MOVING FORWARD
12:46:51PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS FUNDING, SO WE KNOW
12:46:56PM WE HAVE CITY ASSETS.
12:46:57PM I'VE LISTED THEM HERE FOR YOU.
12:46:58PM THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLAN THIS YEAR FOR CITY
12:47:01PM ASSETS IS 2.1.
12:47:04PM THE AMOUNT WE HAVE IN FOR ALL THE EXTERNAL OTHERS IS 2.9.
12:47:08PM SO THAT $5 MILLION NUMBER IS A NUMBER A LOT OF TIMES YOU
12:47:11PM HEAR.
12:47:12PM BUT I THINK WHEN WE TALK TODAY, WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON THE
12:47:15PM 2.9, THE EXTERNAL ORGANIZATIONS.
12:47:18PM FOR THE MOST PART, I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOMEWHAT ALIGNMENT ON
12:47:33PM THE FACT THAT, YES, THE ASSETS, THOUGH THEIR OWN CATEGORY,
12:47:36PM WE WILL FOCUS ON THE EXTERNAL FOLKS.
12:47:39PM THE OTHER AREA, THOUGH, THAT GOT SOME INITIAL DIALOGUE WAS
12:47:43PM AROUND, WELL, WHAT ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT?
12:47:45PM THIS ONE, IT'S REALLY MORE A NEED TO DISCUSS, ARE WE AT A
12:47:54PM PLACE WHERE WE BELIEVE THAT SHOULD ALSO KIND OF BE BROKEN
12:47:57PM OFF INTO ITS OWN CATEGORY?
12:47:59PM AND IF SO, I THINK FROM A TRACKING AND MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT
12:48:03PM THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HANDLED
12:48:06PM SIMILARLY TO THE WAY WE DO CITY ASSETS TODAY.
12:48:09PM BUT IN ASSESSING THIS, IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT YOU MAY
12:48:12PM WANT TO PURSUE, THERE ARE SEVERAL QUESTIONS WE WOULD NEED TO
12:48:17PM DO SOME WORK ON DEFINING WHAT EXACTLY IS AN ORGANIZATION
12:48:21PM THAT PROVIDES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
12:48:23PM IF WE CURRENTLY HAVE AROUND 2.9 MILLION IN OUR PLAN, WHAT DO
12:48:29PM WE THINK IS A REASONABLE ANNUAL AMOUNT TO INVEST
12:48:32PM SPECIFICALLY IN THAT TYPE OF ORGANIZATION, AND IF WE DO WANT
12:48:36PM TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, IS THIS SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD
12:48:41PM ESSENTIALLY CARVE IT OUT FROM THE EXISTING BUDGET OR WOULD
12:48:44PM THIS NEED TO BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT INCREMENTING?
12:48:46PM AND THEN AS FAR AS WHERE THAT WOULD RESIDE, WHEN WE TALK
12:48:52PM ABOUT SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS TODAY YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THE
12:48:56PM REVENUE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT TALK ABOUT THE
12:48:58PM NONDEPARTMENTAL COST CENTER.
12:49:00PM SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD THIS REMAIN WHERE ALL THE
12:49:03PM OTHER SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUNDS ARE OR WOULD IT MOVE OVER
12:49:10PM TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DEPARTMENT?
12:49:18PM IF YOU WANT TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, THE PERFORMANCE
12:49:21PM MEASURES THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE FROM THAT PARTICULAR
12:49:27PM ORGANIZATION, SHOULD THOSE BE DIFFERENT?
12:49:28PM SHOULD THEY BE MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN SOMETHING WE DO WITH
12:49:32PM ANOTHER TYPE OF NOT FOR PROFIT?
12:49:34PM THIS IS THE HISTORICAL TREND I HAD REFERENCED BEFORE.
12:49:39PM THIS IS STRICTLY GOING TO BE THE CONTRIBUTION HISTORY FOR
12:49:49PM SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS, EXCLUDING ANY CITY ASSETS.
12:49:52PM THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE MILLION
12:49:54PM DOLLARS FOR HOUSING WE'VE MOVED.
12:49:55PM THIS IS JUST THE LIST OF THINGS THAT I PROVIDED YOU
12:50:00PM SEPARATELY.
12:50:00PM WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE STEPPED UP QUITE A BIT
12:50:02PM IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, SO IN TERMS OF WHERE WE MADE SOME
12:50:05PM INVESTMENTS, WE HAVE DONE THAT CONSECUTIVELY.
12:50:09PM NOW, OBVIOUSLY, RESPECTFULLY, THE LEVEL FOR THE ANNUAL
12:50:15PM BUDGET FOR FISCAL '26 IS GOING TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF
12:50:18PM THE MAYOR.
12:50:19PM HOWEVER, WE'RE ALL HERE TODAY.
12:50:21PM IN TERMS OF HAVING THE ABILITY TO DISCUSS IN PUBLIC, THOUGHT
12:50:25PM IT MIGHT JUST BE A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO CONSIDER WHERE THAT
12:50:30PM TARGET LEVEL COULD, SHOULD BE GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET.
12:50:37PM THIS IS THE MIX I WAS REFERENCING.
12:50:42PM THE SPREADSHEET I HANDED YOU SEPARATELY -- I APOLOGIZE.
12:50:45PM WHEN I GET TO THE SLIDE YOU CAN SEE IT IS EXTREMELY SMALL.
12:50:49PM SO I HAVE HANDED THEM A LARGER VERSION.
12:50:51PM THAT IS JUST TO PROVIDE SOME BACKUP FOR WHICH ORGANIZATIONS
12:50:56PM ARE GROUPED INTO THESE RESPECTIVE CATEGORIES.
12:50:59PM IN THIS CASE, I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS TO CONSIDER, RIGHT
12:51:04PM NOW THERE ARE 12.
12:51:07PM IS THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER?
12:51:10PM IN TERMS OF HOW WE WANT TO COMPARTMENTALIZE THEM.
12:51:16PM IN ADDITION, IF WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT CATEGORIZATION, THEN
12:51:24PM IT'S REALLY GOING TO REQUIRE THAT THE GROUP DECIDE WHAT
12:51:30PM MATERIALITY LEVEL THEY WANT FOR THE CATEGORIES BECAUSE THAT
12:51:33PM WILL END UP HAVING AN EFFECT ON THE UPCOMING SELECTION
12:51:36PM PROCESS.
12:51:36PM I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND MUCH TIME HERE.
12:51:41PM AGAIN, I DID HAND THIS OUT JUST FOR REFERENCE.
12:51:44PM HIGH, HIGH LEVEL.
12:51:47PM UNDER 25, OVER 25.
12:51:49PM REALLY THE CALL-OUT HERE, IT'S RECOGNIZING THAT THERE LIKELY
12:51:54PM WILL STILL BE THREE POTENTIAL SOURCES WHERE THIS COULD
12:51:57PM ORIGINATE.
12:51:57PM IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS, EVERYONE IS DIRECTED TO THE
12:52:04PM WEBSITE, AND THERE IS A SMART FORM THERE THAT IS COMPLETED
12:52:09PM AS THE INTAKE OF THAT PARTICULAR NEW PROCESS.
12:52:12PM WHAT YOU'LL SEE THAT DIFFERS SLIGHTLY IS ON THE PARTICIPANTS
12:52:15PM THAT ARE OVER 25, THAT INITIAL REVIEW IS DONE BY WHICHEVER
12:52:22PM ADMINISTRATOR MOST REASONABLY WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT
12:52:26PM PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION.
12:52:28PM WHEREAS FOR THE ONES UNDER 25, IT COULD POSSIBLY BE ROUTED
12:52:32PM TO AN ADMINISTRATOR, BUT THERE ARE A LARGE PERCENTAGE
12:52:37PM HANDLED BY REVENUE AND FINANCE.
12:52:39PM I THINK REALLY THE ONLY OTHER ITEM OF NOTE IN TERMS OF THE
12:52:46PM PROCESS I WANTED TO CALL OUT IS WHEN THERE ARE REPORTS
12:52:51PM PROVIDED BACK, THE LESS MATERIAL GROUPS, THE UNDER 25, THEY
12:52:55PM DO A ONE-PAGE EVERY QUARTER THAT PRECIPITATES THEM GETTING
12:53:00PM PAID.
12:53:01PM THEY BILL US FOR THAT AND THAT'S REVIEWED BY WHICHEVER
12:53:04PM RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT HAS RESPONSIBILITY.
12:53:06PM THE PERFORMANCE REPORT THAT COMES IN FOR THE OVER 25 IS
12:53:12PM QUITE A BIT MORE COMPREHENSIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY ARE
12:53:15PM PROVIDING BACK.
12:53:16PM SO THAT WOULD BE SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO WHAT DO WE
12:53:19PM EXPECT IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES.
12:53:22PM THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LAST TIME AROUND THINGS WE JUST
12:53:29PM ABSOLUTELY -- OR YOU ABSOLUTELY FEEL NEED TO BE INCLUDED.
12:53:33PM SO I HAD COPIED YOU ALL ON THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.
12:53:41PM FIRST THING, EVERYONE FELT STRONGLY THIS NEEDS TO BE
12:53:45PM SOMETHING THAT EVERY YEAR STARTS FRESH.
12:53:47PM THAT IS VERY EXPLICIT IN THE AGREEMENT.
12:53:49PM SO THEY KNOW THAT UPON EXECUTING, THEY'LL HAVE TO RESUBMIT
12:53:53PM AGAIN.
12:53:53PM THE SMART FORM, WHICH GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE VERY
12:53:56PM DETAILED IN WHAT IT IS THAT THEY EXPECT TO DELIVER TO THE
12:54:00PM CITY.
12:54:01PM IT DEFINES THAT THE REIMBURSEMENTS ARE QUARTERLY.
12:54:08PM AND THOSE PARTICULAR PROGRAM PERFORMANCE REPORTS ARE WHERE
12:54:14PM THE REQUIREMENTS ARE DETAILED IN TERMS OF THE OUTCOME.
12:54:17PM I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD TALKED ABOUT REALLY NEED TO
12:54:22PM FOCUS ON OUTCOMES.
12:54:23PM THAT PERFORMANCE REPORT IS WHERE ALL OF THAT COMES THROUGH.
12:54:27PM THAT'S METRICS.
12:54:29PM THAT'S DISCUSSION OF WHAT THEY PERFORMED FOR THAT PERIOD.
12:54:33PM LASTLY, I KNOW THIS WAS ALSO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S QUESTION
12:54:37PM IN TERMS OF, WELL, DO WE HAVE RECOGNITION WITH THESE FOLKS
12:54:40PM THAT WE ARE PROVIDING SOME SUPPORT?
12:54:43PM YES, INDEED, AFTER GOING THROUGH THE DOCUMENTATION, THERE
12:54:46PM ARE REQUIREMENTS IN THE SUPPORTING SCHEDULES THAT REQUIRE
12:54:49PM THEM TO PUT THINGS ON THEIR WEBSITE, INVITE US TO EVENTS,
12:54:52PM MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZED.
12:54:54PM MOVING INTO FISCAL '26, SO THE DIALOGUE THAT'S BEEN HAD VERY
12:55:04PM PRELIMINARY WITH REVENUE AND FINANCE, THOUGH, IS THAT WE ARE
12:55:08PM GOING TO TRY TO TACKLE THE UPCOMING ANNUAL APPLICATION
12:55:13PM PROCESS BASICALLY BEING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SUBMIT
12:55:18PM FOR THE ENTIRE FISCAL PERIOD NEXT YEAR.
12:55:20PM WHAT I WAS TRYING TO BE A LITTLE CAUTIOUS ON BECAUSE WE
12:55:23PM NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO DETERMINE IS WHEN THAT TIME
12:55:26PM FRAME IS.
12:55:27PM IT MOST LIKELY WILL BE BETWEEN MAY AND JUNE, MEANING THERE
12:55:31PM WILL BE A DIRECTIVE TO HAVE EVERYONE WHO IS INTERESTED
12:55:33PM SUBMIT.
12:55:34PM THERE WILL BE A HARD DEADLINE AND THEN THE PARTICULAR FOLKS
12:55:38PM THAT HAVE SUBMITTED WOULD COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
12:55:41PM IN THIS CASE, WE KNOW WE HAVE THE BUDGET PRESENTATION ON
12:55:44PM JULY 17.
12:55:46PM WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THERE WILL BE THE LUMP SUM ONLY FOR WHAT
12:55:50PM THE FISCAL PERIOD WILL BE BUDGETED FOR.
12:55:53PM BUT THEN THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IS THAT BY THE TIME WE GET
12:55:56PM TO ONE OF THE WORKSHOPS AND WE'RE NOT SURE WHICH ONE, THAT'S
12:55:59PM WHERE YOU WOULD GET A VIEW INTO WHAT HAS COME THROUGH THE
12:56:02PM APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE MAYOR'S FIRST INITIAL
12:56:08PM RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHO THAT WOULD BE.
12:56:10PM IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, IF WE DECIDE
12:56:16PM THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS IDEA OF
12:56:19PM CATEGORIZATION, THEN PROBABLY WE NEED TO CHANGE THE UP-FRONT
12:56:24PM PROCESS TO INCLUDE THAT THEY ARE SELECTING WHICH PART OF THE
12:56:29PM CITY THEY ARE AUGMENTING AND ESSENTIALLY WHICH CATEGORY THEY
12:56:32PM ARE FULFILLING SERVICES FOR US FOR.
12:56:34PM THAT CURRENTLY IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.
12:56:36PM LASTLY, THIS YEAR, WHEN WE WRAPPED UP THE FISCAL '25 BUDGET,
12:56:43PM THERE WAS A SMALL PORTION OF UNALLOCATED.
12:56:46PM IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE GROUP TO THINK THROUGH.
12:56:49PM WOULD IT BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO HAVE SOME PORTION OF AN
12:56:53PM ALLOCATED BALANCE JUST TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY THROUGHOUT THE
12:56:56PM YEAR.
12:56:57PM TRYING TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.
12:57:01PM I'LL PAUSE AND ALLOW YOU TO DECIDE WHERE YOU WANT TO GO
12:57:05PM FIRST WITH SOME OF THESE TOPICS.
12:57:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE HENDERSON, CLENDENIN, MIRANDA,
12:57:12PM CARLSON.
12:57:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:57:15PM THANK YOU, MS. KOPESKY FOR YOUR REPORT.
12:57:20PM ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT CAME OUT RIGHT
12:57:25PM AWAY IS, YOU KNOW, DOWN-STEPPING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ENGAGED
12:57:29PM WITH US FROM THE STANDPOINT FOR THE TEN-PLUS YEARS.
12:57:33PM THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WORK BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO KNOW,
12:57:36PM I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THE NAACP USED TO GET $7,000.
12:57:41PM SO THEY JUST RECENTLY GOT THAT MONEY.
12:57:43PM SO A STEP-DOWN PROCESS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WORK, EVEN
12:57:47PM THOUGH THEY STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR FUNDS THIS YEAR
12:57:49PM BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING ON THEIR DOCUMENTATION.
12:57:51PM AND EVEN THE BLACK HERITAGE FESTIVAL, USED TO GET 10,000,
12:57:56PM JUST GOT UP TO 25.
12:57:57PM STEP THEM DOWN ONLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN HERE 10 YEARS, IT
12:58:02PM JUST WOULDN'T APPLY TO BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN
12:58:04PM WITH US FOR A LONG TIME.
12:58:06PM ALTHOUGH I CAN SEE SOME SORT OF -- ANYWAY, I LOST THAT
12:58:17PM THOUGHT, IT'S NOT REALLY THAT IMPORTANT.
12:58:18PM I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DECISION
12:58:21PM ABOUT LONG TERM, LIKE CAPPED AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
12:58:26PM FEEDING TAMPA BAY, THERE'S NO REASON FOR US NOT TO SUPPORT
12:58:28PM THEM.
12:58:29PM TO SUNSET OR TO DOWN-STEP BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR
12:58:33PM TEN PLUS YEARS IS JUST NOT IDEAL.
12:58:35PM SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO GET RID OF THAT.
12:58:37PM THERE ARE 17 ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR TEN
12:58:40PM PLUS YEARS.
12:58:41PM THEM BEING JUST IDENTIFY, I THINK -- JUSTIFIED, I THINK THAT
12:58:49PM CAN EASILY BE DONE.
12:58:50PM THE ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT IMMEDIATELY IS THE TAMPA
12:58:53PM EDUCATION CABLE CONSORTIUM.
12:58:54PM THEY WERE CLASSIFIED UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
12:58:57PM I REMEMBER MEETING WITH THEM AND THEM TELLING ME THAT COULD
12:59:00PM POSSIBLY BE A CATEGORY FOR THEM.
12:59:01PM ONLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE INTERNS.
12:59:04PM NO, THAT'S NOT -- YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY BEING ON THE ECONOMIC
12:59:08PM DEVELOPMENT OR EVEN MOSI.
12:59:10PM HOW CAN THEY JUSTIFY BEING UNDER THAT CATEGORY AND THEN WE
12:59:13PM GIVE THAT CATEGORY SOME SPECIAL CONCESSION BECAUSE THEY FALL
12:59:16PM UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
12:59:17PM NO WAY.
12:59:23PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: TRYING TO READ MISSION STATEMENTS.
12:59:27PM ABSOLUTELY ROOM ON FLEXIBILITY WHERE THEY LAND.
12:59:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY MENTIONED THAT WHEN I MET WITH THEM
12:59:32PM AND THAT IS NOT A REASON.
12:59:33PM THAT KIND OF IS SCARY TO THEM.
12:59:35PM WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANYONE'S FUNDING.
12:59:38PM SO THE CLASSIFICATION IN THAT WAY IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I
12:59:42PM WOULD CONSIDER APPROPRIATE.
12:59:43PM I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY CONTROL IT THAT WAY.
12:59:45PM BECAUSE ARTS AND CULTURE, YOU WOULD HEAR FROM ME THAT
12:59:49PM EDUCATION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
12:59:52PM SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY, HAVING IT CLASSIFIED JUST
12:59:56PM SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SO HARD
12:59:58PM CORE I GUESS.
1:00:00PM THE OTHER THING IS THAT -- AND I'LL WRAP UP WITH THIS, THE
1:00:04PM NEW ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S ON HERE IS REALLY MY WAY OF
1:00:08PM EXAMPLING HOW WE CAN BENEFIT SMALL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SO
1:00:12PM IMPACTFUL IN OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE THE BULLOCK FAMILY, G 3
1:00:18PM LIFE APPLICATIONS, GIRL EMPOWERMENT, MEN OF VISION, RISE UP
1:00:24PM FOR PEACE AND ERIN'S HOUSE.
1:00:27PM I REQUESTED $5,000 AND SO GLAD THAT IT WAS PUT INTO THE
1:00:31PM BUDGET.
1:00:32PM A WEEK OR TWO, WE WILL BE HEARING FROM THE BULLOCK FAMILY
1:00:37PM FOUNDATION BECAUSE THEY PUT THAT MONEY TOWARD A PROGRAM AT
1:00:41PM SLIGH, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVING THEM A COMMENDATION FOR
1:00:44PM THOSE EFFORTS.
1:00:45PM I DID THAT REALLY JUST TO MODEL TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO SAY
1:00:49PM WE CAN BE IMPACTFUL IN SMALL DOLLARS AND LITERALLY -- I'M
1:00:56PM GETTING THANK-YOU NOTES FOR THE $5,000 BECAUSE THEY ARE ABLE
1:00:59PM TO BUY THE SNACKS FOR THE KIDS THAT COME TO THEIR PROGRAM.
1:01:03PM THEY ARE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING.
1:01:04PM TO BE SUPPORTIVE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A DOLLAR FIGURE.
1:01:09PM THE OTHER ONE WAS, I PUSHED BACK, FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK,
1:01:12PM THEY WERE LOBBYING US.
1:01:13PM THE MAYOR -- I ASKED FOR 25.
1:01:16PM SHE LANDED AT 35.
1:01:19PM THEY CAME BACK ASKING FOR MORE.
1:01:21PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CONTROL IT.
1:01:24PM IT IS A MAYOR-LED PROCESS.
1:01:26PM STAY IN THEIR OFFICE AND WE GET TO PROVIDE THE INPUT TO THE
1:01:29PM MAYOR.
1:01:29PM BUT RECOGNIZING THAT IT IS SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS AND THAT WE
1:01:37PM JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
1:01:41PM I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK IN TERMS OF CLASSIFYING IT THIS WAY.
1:01:44PM I DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK TO HARD RULES THAT WE MAY HAVE TO
1:01:49PM CHANGE.
1:01:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, MIRANDA,
1:01:52PM CARLSON, HURTAK.
1:01:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW WE HAD ASKED DENNIS OR SOMEBODY
1:02:04PM LAST YEAR IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS TO CREATE THESE
1:02:09PM CATEGORIES.
1:02:10PM MAYBE YOU COULD WORK WITH THEM TO PARSE THESE THINGS OUT.
1:02:14PM I SEE OBVIOUSLY THE PROTOCOL OFFICE, THAT'S NOT ARTS OR
1:02:18PM CULTURE.
1:02:18PM THAT SHOULD BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
1:02:19PM OH, AT THE BOTTOM.
1:02:28PM I HAVE TO AGREE, WHY IS THE TELEVISION NETWORK IN THERE?
1:02:38PM THAT'S KIND OF WEIRD TO ME.
1:02:40PM THE TELEVISION NETWORK, THE TAMPA BAY PUBLIC ACCESS
1:02:49PM TELEVISION.
1:02:50PM TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY NETWORK.
1:02:53PM I DON'T GET THAT.
1:02:54PM ANYWAY, DIVIDING THIS UP BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
1:03:01PM THEN TALK ABOUT SOCIAL ACTION, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF
1:03:04PM GOOD SOCIAL ACTION PROGRAMS AND ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY OF
1:03:09PM TAMPA, BUT I THINK OUR LITMUS TEST, YOU ALL HEAR ME OUT,
1:03:16PM THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE TO FULFILL A STRATEGIC GOAL OF THE
1:03:20PM CITY OF TAMPA.
1:03:21PM THEY HAVE TO BE ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING THAT IF THEY WEREN'T
1:03:24PM DOING IT, THEN THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD BE NEEDING TO DO IT.
1:03:29PM SO WE SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT THE
1:03:31PM CITY OF TAMPA IS EITHER INCAPABLE OF OR THEY CAN DO BETTER.
1:03:34PM I THINK WE SHOULD USE THAT AS A LITMUS TEST OF WHEN WE
1:03:38PM SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATIONS.
1:03:39PM I HAVE A QUESTION, WHY ARE THERE EXCEPTIONS TO QUARTERLY
1:03:42PM REPORTS?
1:03:45PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I THINK THEY ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN, IF
1:03:47PM THAT'S FAIR.
1:03:48PM I WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON WHY THAT OCCURS.
1:03:54PM I KNOW IT HAPPENS, BUT --
1:03:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE VOTE
1:03:58PM NEXT TIME ON ALLOCATING, WHY.
1:04:01PM ANOTHER QUESTION, PROCEDURALLY, IS THIS REALLY WITHIN THE
1:04:05PM CHARTER?
1:04:05PM BOTH OF THESE REQUIRE THE MAYOR HAS BASICALLY A VETO ON
1:04:10PM EVERYTHING.
1:04:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY THING I REMEMBER FROM THE CHARTER
1:04:15PM WAS APPROVAL OF FUNDS.
1:04:17PM WE ULTIMATELY APPROVED THE FUNDS.
1:04:19PM THE MAYOR MAY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE CAN MOVE IT
1:04:23PM HOWEVER WE WANT.
1:04:23PM WE CONTROL THE BUDGET.
1:04:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN THAT ONE SLIDE YOU SUBMITTED, IT
1:04:28PM BASICALLY IMPLIES --
1:04:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOTHING IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS THE MAYOR
1:04:31PM CONTROLS NONPROFIT DONATIONS.
1:04:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION.
1:04:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACTUALLY THINK IF YOU PUT SOMETHING IN
1:04:40PM UNALLOCATED FUNDS, AFTER WE APPROVE THE BUDGET, SHE DOES
1:04:44PM HAVE TO --
1:04:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
1:04:47PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
1:04:51PM REPHRASE THE QUESTION.
1:04:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ONE THAT HAD LESS THAN 25 AND OVER 25.
1:04:56PM IT SAID FUNDING DECISION BY MAYOR.
1:04:59PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: WELL, YEAH, THAT IS ULTIMATELY A FUNDING
1:05:02PM DECISION, IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION HOW TO SPEND THAT
1:05:04PM PARTICULAR MONEY.
1:05:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE BUDGET THAT, SO IF WE BUDGET THAT IN
1:05:10PM THE BUDGET, THAT SHOULD BE A -- WITH OUR PROCEDURES THAT WE
1:05:15PM HAVE APPROVED, THAT MONEY SHOULD BE ALLOCATED.
1:05:18PM IT SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO --
1:05:21PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: ULTIMATELY NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET,
1:05:23PM HYPOTHETICALLY IT COULD.
1:05:26PM IT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
1:05:28PM POLICIES INVOLVED HOW TO SPEND THE MONEY THAT THE MAYOR'S
1:05:30PM OFFICE HEADS AND STAFF HAS DRAFTED.
1:05:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
1:05:39PM >> MIKE PERRY, BUDGET OFFICER.
1:05:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST LIKE NAMING OF BUILDINGS.
1:05:45PM THE CHARTER IS SILENT AS TO WHO HAS THE POWER TO NAME IT.
1:05:49PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAID, WELL, THE MAYOR HAS CONTROL OF
1:05:53PM ADMINISTRATION.
1:05:53PM I MADE THE POINT MAYOR CAN'T LEASE A BUILDING WITHOUT
1:05:56PM APPROVAL.
1:05:56PM CAN'T PAINT A BUILDING WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL.
1:05:59PM BUY OR SELL A BUILDING WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL.
1:06:01PM ULTIMATELY IT HAS TO COME BACK TO US.
1:06:06PM APPROVE A BLANKET BUDGET AND CAN MAKE A DECISION WITHIN THAT
1:06:09PM BUDGET, THAT'S FINE.
1:06:10PM IF WE PRESCRIBE A BUDGET IN ADVANCE, THEN WITHIN PARAMETERS
1:06:14PM THE MAYOR WOULD IMPLEMENT.
1:06:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS.
1:06:19PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: THAT MAY BE WHERE I CONFUSED YOU.
1:06:21PM WHEN I WAS TRYING TO SUGGEST FISCAL '26, GOING OUT WITH
1:06:25PM APPLICATION PERIOD, HAVING THEM COME BACK IN WOULD CREATE A
1:06:28PM LIST THAT THEN WOULD BE EVENTUALLY BROUGHT BACK FORWARD TO
1:06:31PM THIS GROUP AT WHICH POINT, DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT GOES,
1:06:34PM THAT WOULD BECOME THE ULTIMATE FISCAL YEAR '26.
1:06:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LEGAL, IF THIS COUNCIL ALLOCATES ONE
1:06:42PM DOLLAR TO ORGANIZATION XYZ AND WE APPROVE THAT IN THE FY '26
1:06:51PM BUDGET, THAT IS A DONE DEAL.
1:06:56PM >> RIGHT.
1:06:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE, THAT LINE IN
1:06:58PM THAT SLIDE.
1:07:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS AHEAD OF TIME.
1:07:06PM THIS IS -- SO YOU PUT YOUR APPLICATION IN AND THIS IS HOW IT
1:07:12PM HAPPENS.
1:07:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR EXTRA TIME?
1:07:14PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, SECOND FROM
1:07:24PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
1:07:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:07:26PM EXTEND THE MEETING UNTIL 1:20.
1:07:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LAST THING IS A STATEMENT.
1:07:32PM TWO THINGS, I THINK WE LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
1:07:36PM WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY ROI.
1:07:40PM WHAT IS THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT IN ECONOMIC
1:07:43PM DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST HYPOTHETICAL.
1:07:44PM I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS PAGE THAT I EVER ASKED
1:07:49PM FOR, BUT I AM GOING TO ASK FOR, BECAUSE WE HAVE A VALET
1:07:54PM COMPANY TRYING TO BE A START-UP.
1:07:56PM I DON'T THINK THE FUNDS SHOULD BE CONTINUED IN PERPETUITY.
1:07:59PM I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT BUMPING UP THEIR CONTRIBUTION
1:08:03PM NEXT YEAR.
1:08:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA, CARLSON, HURTAK.
1:08:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
1:08:08PM HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE -- UNLESS YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
1:08:15PM YEAR, THEY ARE OUT?
1:08:16PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: FOR EXAMPLE, LAST YEAR, THERE JUST SIMPLY
1:08:20PM WAS A FORMATION THAT HAD NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED --
1:08:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SPENT.
1:08:26PM THAT MONEY WAS ALLOCATED, THOSE PEOPLE NEVER GOT IT.
1:08:29PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: NO.
1:08:30PM LET ME SAY IT DIFFERENTLY.
1:08:31PM IF THERE WERE 50 PEOPLE THAT THE GROUP DECIDED WOULD BE THE
1:08:35PM RECIPIENTS FOR THAT YEAR, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER 50,000, THE
1:08:39PM GROUP THE MAYOR AGREED WOULD GO INTO THE OVERARCHING LINE
1:08:43PM ITEM FOR THAT, THAT JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANY ORGANIZATION
1:08:46PM ATTACHED TO IT.
1:08:46PM THERE WAS JUST SIMPLY UNALLOCATED BUFFER AMOUNT THAT WAS IN
1:08:51PM THE FISCAL '25.
1:08:54PM WE JUST DIDN'T TAG IT TO A SPECIFIC ORG.
1:08:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND THING IS, WE WENT FROM '21 TO '25
1:09:02PM FROM -- WHAT WAS THE BEGINNING.
1:09:04PM NOW 2.94 MILLION THAT WE'RE GIVING AWAY.
1:09:07PM PUTTING -- NOT GIVING AWAY.
1:09:08PM PUTTING INTO A FUND TO HELP THE PUBLIC.
1:09:11PM BUT IT ALMOST TRIPLED FROM 21 TO 25.
1:09:15PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
1:09:17PM THANK YOU.
1:09:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND HURTAK.
1:09:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THIS.
1:09:22PM WITH MY DAY JOB HAT ON, I'VE DONE A LOT OF THESE
1:09:27PM PHILANTHROPIC PLANS FOR COMPANIES.
1:09:31PM ALMOST ALL OF THEM NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO OR THREE THINGS.
1:09:37PM I THINK THE CATEGORIES ARE TOO MANY.
1:09:39PM IT'S GOOD TO CATEGORIZE IT IF YOU WERE TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT
1:09:43PM TO SOMEBODY.
1:09:44PM FROM A STRATEGY POINT OF VIEW, YOU NEED TWO OR THREE THINGS.
1:09:47PM AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THEY NEED TO BE TIED TO OUR POLICY
1:09:51PM OBJECTIVES.
1:09:52PM OTHERWISE, IT LOOKS LIKE POLITICAL HANDOUTS.
1:09:55PM THAT WAY, IF SOMEBODY CALLS VERIZON, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEY
1:10:02PM SAY WE WANT YOU TO FUND, OH, WE ONLY HAVE THESE THREE
1:10:06PM THINGS, AND YOU -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND OUTSIDE THAT.
1:10:10PM THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.
1:10:11PM OTHERWISE WE GET THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF REQUESTS, AND
1:10:16PM THEN JUST BECAUSE WE LIKE SOMEBODY OR LIKE AN ORGANIZATION,
1:10:19PM EVERY NONPROFIT IS DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE IN THE
1:10:21PM COMMUNITY, BUT WE HAVE TO BE TIED TO OUR GOALS.
1:10:23PM I THINK A BIGGER DISCUSSION NEXT TIME SHOULD BE ON WHAT ARE
1:10:28PM OUR POLICY OBJECTIVES.
1:10:29PM WE SHOULD ASK THE MAYOR IN ADVANCE, WHAT ARE YOUR POLICY
1:10:32PM OBJECTIVES, IF YOU HAD TO PICK THREE, IDEALLY OUTCOME
1:10:36PM ORIENTED AND THEN LOOK AT THOSE AND RECOMMEND AND TRY TO
1:10:38PM COME TO SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS.
1:10:40PM ANOTHER THING FROM A MARKETING POINT OF VIEW, ANYTIME A NAME
1:10:43PM IS MORE THAN THREE SYLLABLES, OR ESPECIALLY MORE THAN FIVE,
1:10:46PM IT ENDS UP BEING INITIALS.
1:10:48PM S-A-F IN SINGAPORE IS SINGAPORE ARMED FORCES.
1:10:58PM INITIALS MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, AND YOU
1:10:59PM CAN ALWAYS GET IN TROUBLE.
1:11:00PM GOVERNMENT LIKES TO USE INITIALS, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO
1:11:02PM SHORTEN IT TO SOMETHING THAT'S THREE SYLLABLES.
1:11:05PM SAAF DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
1:11:08PM I THINK I WAS THE ONE WHO PROPOSED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
1:11:13PM CATEGORY THAT WOULD NOT BE UNDER THIS BUDGET BUT MOVE UNDER
1:11:17PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
1:11:19PM AGAIN, POLICY DRIVEN.
1:11:20PM IT'S GOT TO BE UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
1:11:24PM FOR EXAMPLE, JAVIER IS A DATA PERSON.
1:11:26PM IF HE SAYS, HEY, TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THIS DATA, ON THIS
1:11:31PM OUTCOME, WE NEED TO SPONSOR THIS NONPROFIT, THAT IS AN
1:11:34PM OBJECTIVE OF THAT DEPARTMENT JUST LIKE UNDER PARKS, RUNNING
1:11:41PM TRAINING PROGRAMS AND OTHER THINGS.
1:11:42PM NOT JUST CREATE IT AS A CATEGORY, IT'S THAT ANYTHING
1:11:45PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO BE OVER THERE.
1:11:47PM THE PROTOCOL OFFICE, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING THROUGH THE
1:11:49PM TAMPA CHAMBER ANYMORE.
1:11:50PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE NAME.
1:11:52PM PROTOCOL OFFICE IS A JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN SEVERAL DIFFERENT
1:11:55PM ORGANIZATIONS.
1:11:56PM WE ONLY FUND PART OF IT.
1:11:58PM THAT'S THE ONE THAT TAKES FOLKS ON TRIPS OVERSEAS AND THEN
1:12:04PM ALSO WELCOMES DIGNITARIES THAT COME HERE.
1:12:06PM BEFORE THAT OFFICE WAS IN PLACE, THERE WERE EVENTS FOR
1:12:10PM DIGNITARIES WHERE THEY SERVED CHOP SUEY FOR CHINESE VISITORS
1:12:15PM AND SERVED STEAK FOR THE INDIAN AMBASSADOR.
1:12:19PM WE NEED THAT TO MAKE SURE WE WELCOME INBOUND INVESTORS.
1:12:23PM THE NEXT ONE, AFTER THE BOCC ENTREPRENEURIAL COLLABORATIVE
1:12:26PM CENTER, I ASSUME THAT IS PART OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
1:12:29PM THEY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
1:12:31PM TAMPA WAVE IS, THEY HAVE A HUGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
1:12:34PM TWO VIDEO SERVICES, I WENT TO BROOKLYN PUBLIC ACCESS A
1:12:39PM COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
1:12:40PM THEY SPEND $6 MILLION A YEAR AND THEY ARE INCUBATING IDEAS
1:12:44PM FOR YouTube, SOME OF THEM BECOME YouTube CHANNELS.
1:12:47PM SOME OF THEM BECOME REGULAR TV CHANNELS OR SHOWS.
1:12:50PM SO THEY ARE INCUBATING THINGS.
1:12:52PM INTERNSHIP, IF IT IS TIED TO INCUBATING A CERTAIN SKILL SET
1:12:56PM TO HELP SOMEBODY SET UP BUSINESSES CAN BE REALLY HELPFUL AND
1:12:59PM PROBABLY SHOULD BE UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT IT SOUNDS
1:13:01PM LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S DEVELOPED.
1:13:03PM NAACP PROGRAM AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, HELPING MINORITY OWNED
1:13:08PM BUSINESSES TO BUILD UP CAPACITY AND GET BUSINESS.
1:13:11PM I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SEPARATELY
1:13:13PM AND HAVE THAT DEPARTMENT OVERSEE IT.
1:13:15PM YOU SEPARATED CITY OWNED FACILITIES.
1:13:18PM IF WE'RE PROVIDING MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE OF CITY OWNED
1:13:20PM FACILITIES, THAT DEFINITELY SHOULD BE A DIFFERENT BUDGET
1:13:23PM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
1:13:23PM ANOTHER THING IS, THE REPUTATION OF COMMUNITY, IF CITY
1:13:29PM COUNCIL PROPOSED A NONPROFIT, TAKES SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR TO
1:13:32PM GET PAID.
1:13:33PM IF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE PROPOSES ONE, IT GETS PAID RIGHT AWAY.
1:13:37PM WE NEED TO TAKE OUT THE EXCUSES AND MAKE IT BLACK AND WHITE
1:13:41PM AS TO HOW PEOPLE GET PAID.
1:13:43PM SMALL NONPROFITS CAN'T AFFORD TO CARRY 50 OR A HUNDRED
1:13:46PM THOUSAND.
1:13:46PM IF THEY PAY PEOPLE, THEY CAN'T CARRY THAT FOR MONTHS AND
1:13:50PM MONTHS AND MONTHS.
1:13:51PM FINALLY WE NEED A ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT ARE OUR
1:13:54PM POLICY OBJECTIVES AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.
1:13:57PM I'LL END THERE.
1:13:58PM THANK YOU.
1:13:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
1:14:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
1:14:01PM I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
1:14:05PM THE ONLY THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN I GOT THIS, I THINK
1:14:11PM IT WAS YESTERDAY, HAVING DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE NONPROFIT
1:14:16PM SECTOR, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE LARGE ORGANIZATIONS THAT
1:14:20PM GET MONEY FROM US MAY NEED TO CHECK A BOX THAT SAYS RECEIVES
1:14:26PM CITY SUPPORT FOR MATCHING GRANT DOLLARS.
1:14:30PM SO WE KIND OF NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.
1:14:33PM I'M ASSUMING THAT FEEDING TAMPA BAY IS SPECIFICALLY, WHILE
1:14:38PM THEIR BUDGET IS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN WHAT WE'RE PUTTING
1:14:41PM IN, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S PROBABLY GRANTS OUT THERE THAT
1:14:46PM REQUIRE MATCHING DOLLARS FROM THE CITY.
1:14:48PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOR SOME OF THESE LARGER
1:14:52PM ORGANIZATIONS IF THAT'S THE CASE.
1:14:54PM AND THEN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS PROBABLY NEED TO BE HELD
1:14:57PM SEPARATE.
1:14:58PM BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCH LARGE ENTITIES AND WITHOUT CITY
1:15:03PM SUPPORT, OUR FUNDS MAKE IT BASICALLY LEGITIMIZE THE WORK
1:15:09PM THEY ARE DOING IN CERTAIN GRANT APPLICATIONS.
1:15:14PM I DO BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY FOR SOME OF OUR LARGER
1:15:19PM ORGANIZATIONS AND LARGER DOLLARS, MIGHT BE.
1:15:20PM IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE DO NEED TO HOLD THOSE SEPARATE.
1:15:23PM BUT WE NEED TO TALK TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH
1:15:26PM MONEY CAN WE GIVE YOU SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SAY YOU'RE
1:15:30PM DOING THAT.
1:15:31PM BUT MAYBE WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE FULL AMOUNT BUT
1:15:35PM WHERE CAN WE LAND TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE STILL CHECKING THAT
1:15:39PM BOX.
1:15:40PM ADDITIONALLY, WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT PRIORITIES, BUT THE
1:15:43PM THING IS, COUNTY DOES ALL SOCIAL FUNDING.
1:15:46PM WE FUND NOTHING WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
1:15:50PM TRULY, THAT IS SOCIAL FUNDING FOR SOME OF THESE, ESPECIALLY
1:15:56PM THE YOUTH FUNDING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
1:15:58PM THERE ARE NO DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT FUND
1:16:02PM THAT.
1:16:02PM THAT SOCIAL FUNDING GENERALLY GOES THROUGH THE COUNTY.
1:16:06PM SO I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT POLICY, BUT I THINK SOME OF OUR
1:16:10PM POLICY MAY NOT BE THINGS THAT WE ARE ALREADY FUNDING.
1:16:13PM SO THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICY
1:16:17PM IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING -- IT MAY NOT TIE TO A SPECIFIC
1:16:21PM THING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE
1:16:25PM DON'T SUPPORT IT.
1:16:26PM IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING, A LOT OF FUNDING JUST FLOWS THROUGH
1:16:30PM THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVES
1:16:33PM DOLLARS OR IT COMES FROM THE STATE THAT WAY.
1:16:35PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT ACCIDENTALLY UNFUNDING
1:16:40PM YOUTH PROGRAMS OR PERSONS CAN DISABILITIES PROGRAMS OR
1:16:45PM HOUSING PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE DON'T ALREADY FOCUS ON THOSE
1:16:49PM BECAUSE THAT'S TRADITIONALLY NOT WHAT THE CITY HAS FUNDED.
1:16:52PM SO THAT'S REALLY -- I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
1:16:55PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S NEXT, BUT I THINK IT IS A GOOD
1:16:58PM CONVERSATION TO HAVE.
1:16:59PM OH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I REALLY WANTED TO AGREE WITH IS
1:17:06PM ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BEING PULLED OUT OF THIS.
1:17:09PM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S JUST A PORTION THAT WE ALL
1:17:12PM DECIDE ON THAT NEEDS TO GO TOWARD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR A
1:17:15PM SEPARATE FUND, BUT TO ME, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT SOCIAL
1:17:19PM ACTION ARTS FUNDING, HOWEVER WE WANT TO NAME IT, BUT IT IS
1:17:24PM CRITICAL AND IT SHOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, EXPANDED TO DO
1:17:29PM THESE SMALL START-UPS, INCUBATORS.
1:17:32PM WE SHOULD REALLY BE FOCUSING ON THAT AND WE SHOULD ALLOW OUR
1:17:36PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO BE DOING THAT FOCUS, NOT THAT
1:17:40PM WHOEVER IS DOING THESE PARTICULAR THINGS DOESN'T KNOW, BUT
1:17:43PM THEY JUST HAVE A SPECIAL EXPERTISE ON THAT.
1:17:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:17:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE COUNCILWOMAN
1:17:52PM HENDERSON TALKED ABOUT FEEDING TAMPA BAY AND THEN YOU JUST
1:17:54PM TALKED ABOUT THEM, TOO.
1:17:55PM THAT FIGURE -- SUCH AN ENORMOUS OPERATION.
1:17:59PM I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
1:18:03PM I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.
1:18:05PM YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING IN THE NONPROFIT FIELD.
1:18:08PM HONESTLY, I WAS WILLING TO GO BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT,
1:18:11PM FEEDING TAMPA BAY SHOULD BE ABLE TO RISE.
1:18:13PM THEY GET A LOT OF DONORS FROM A LOT OF PLACES.
1:18:16PM IF THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED, I NEED TO KNOW THAT.
1:18:19PM OTHERWISE I WOULD BE MAKING A POINT TO REMOVE THAT FUNDING.
1:18:22PM I LOVE FEEDING TAMPA BAY.
1:18:25PM DON'T ANYBODY MISTAKE MY ADMIRATION FOR THE ORGANIZATION.
1:18:28PM I FEEL THEY ARE ON A GOOD RUN RIGHT NOW.
1:18:32PM THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED US.
1:18:33PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS CODIFIED.
1:18:38PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY PRIOR TO
1:18:44PM PRESENTING THE FY '25 BUDGET, THAT -- SORRY, '26 BUDGET,
1:18:49PM THAT THEY DISSECT THIS LIST AND BREAK OUT THE ORGANIZATIONS
1:18:54PM THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS,
1:18:58PM AND IF THEY NEED HELP, MAYBE THEY CAN CONSULT WITH US AS
1:19:02PM WELL, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT ITEMS.
1:19:05PM SO WHEN FY '26 BUDGET IS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL,
1:19:09PM THAT THOSE ITEMS ARE BROKEN OUT AND AWAY FROM WHAT WE NOW
1:19:13PM CONSIDER THIS SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS FUND.
1:19:17PM SO WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS, WE'RE ONLY
1:19:20PM DEALING WITH SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS.
1:19:22PM LET'S HAVE THE BUDGET TEAM PUT THAT PROCESS TOGETHER SO WE
1:19:28PM ARE CLEARLY IDENTIFYING WHAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON.
1:19:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME ASK A QUESTION ON THAT.
1:19:33PM YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING THE FUNDING.
1:19:36PM TALKING ABOUT RECATEGORIZING.
1:19:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXACTLY.
1:19:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M LOOKING AT STUFF HERE THAT DOESN'T
1:19:40PM MAKE SENSE.
1:19:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE WITH THAT TOO.
1:19:43PM WE ALREADY HAD THE CONVERSATION MONTHS AGO.
1:19:45PM WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS.
1:19:47PM I DON'T THINK IT GOT PUT INTO A MOTION.
1:19:49PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SPOKE ABOUT IT.
1:19:54PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SPOKE ABOUT IT.
1:19:55PM WE ALL SEE IT.
1:19:57PM IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A GIVEAWAY OR POLITICAL PAY-BACK KIND
1:20:01PM OF LIST AS OPPOSED TO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC
1:20:05PM DEVELOPMENT.
1:20:05PM AGAIN, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THINGS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON HIT IT
1:20:09PM AS WELL, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
1:20:12PM ALSO WHAT IS PROVIDING A STRATEGIC SERVICE TO THE CITY THAT
1:20:18PM ALIGNS WITH OUR STRATEGIC GOALS AND IS ACCOMPLISHING
1:20:21PM SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD BE DOING IF WE HAD THE
1:20:24PM RESOURCES OR THE STAFF TO DO IT.
1:20:26PM ALL OF THESE ITEMS, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
1:20:32PM A MOTION FOR CITY STAFF TO BREAK OUT THE ORGANIZATIONS
1:20:37PM WITHIN THE CATEGORY THAT IDENTIFIED AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
1:20:41PM HAVE THOSE BROUGHT TO US IN AN FY '26 BUDGET THAT IS NOT A
1:20:46PM PART OF THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND.
1:20:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:20:52PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
1:20:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL DO A SEPARATE MOTION.
1:20:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
1:20:57PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON HERE FOR
1:21:00PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
1:21:01PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
1:21:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION FOR TEN MORE MINUTES.
1:21:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
1:21:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FOR TEN MORE MINUTES FROM
1:21:09PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:21:10PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
1:21:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:21:12PM AYE.
1:21:16PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
1:21:18PM I WANT TO THANK HAGAR KOPESKY FOR BEING FABULOUS.
1:21:21PM I LOVE HER.
1:21:22PM SHE'S ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL AND SHE'S EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN THE
1:21:27PM BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
1:21:30PM ALMOST AS MUCH AS MIKE.
1:21:32PM GIVE HER A WHILE.
1:21:33PM SHE'LL CATCH UP.
1:21:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STEPHANIE POYNOR IS COMPLIMENTING CITY
1:21:40PM STAFF.
1:21:41PM >> I DO IT ALL THE TIME.
1:21:42PM QUOTE A BOCC MEMBER IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS, THE COUNTY HAS
1:21:46PM PLENTY OF MONEY.
1:21:47PM THE COUNTY HAS PLENTY OF MONEY.
1:21:50PM OH, REALLY.
1:21:51PM OF COURSE, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WAS THIS
1:21:56PM BOCC ENTREPRENEUR COLLABORATIVE, IF THEY GOT PLENTY OF
1:22:02PM MONEY, WHY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY ON IT.
1:22:04PM BUT OKAY.
1:22:05PM REQUIRE MATCHING FUNDS FOR SOME OF THIS TO ENCOURAGE GRANT
1:22:09PM WRITING.
1:22:09PM YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PART OF IT.
1:22:12PM BUT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT IF WE ARE TEACHING SOME OF
1:22:15PM THESE SMALLER GROUPS HOW TO DO GRANT WRITING AS PART OF WHAT
1:22:19PM JAVIER DOES FOR HIS BUSINESSES, PROFITS, NONPROFITS, PUTTING
1:22:25PM THEM TOGETHER, AND TEACHING THEM GRANT WRITING AT THE SAME
1:22:28PM TIME BECAUSE WHEN WE'VE GOT THE SMALL FOLKS, WE WANT THEM TO
1:22:32PM GROW BIGGER.
1:22:33PM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GROW BIGGER?
1:22:35PM THEY ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY.
1:22:36PM THEY MAY MEET SOME OF THE NONPROFITS THEY CAN SUPPORT LATER
1:22:41PM ON.
1:22:41PM I KNOW THAT WHEN I GIVE MONEY, IT GOES SPECIFICALLY TO
1:22:46PM PLACES THAT I'VE HAD INTERACTIONS WITH.
1:22:48PM THE SMART FORM ANNUALLY, I'M REALLY INTO THAT.
1:22:52PM I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
1:22:53PM REPORTING IN QUARTERLY.
1:22:55PM I KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA LAST WEEK THAT I
1:22:57PM ASKED HOW THEY SPEND THE MONEY LAST YEAR.
1:23:00PM I DON'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS.
1:23:01PM BUT I DID.
1:23:02PM I THINK PREVIOUS INTONATIONS.
1:23:06PM I'M REALLY, REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD
1:23:09PM CATEGORY.
1:23:10PM THERE'S STILL NO NEIGHBORHOOD CATEGORY.
1:23:13PM WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
1:23:14PM WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO ALMOST ALWAYS HAVE SOME SORT OF
1:23:18PM NEEDS.
1:23:18PM THE COUNTY HAS $5,000 GRANTS, BUT THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY
1:23:22PM PICKY ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY ON.
1:23:24PM YOU CAN SPEND IT ON FOOD FOR AN EVENT, BUT YOU CAN'T SPEND
1:23:28PM IT ON THE INTERMENT FOR THE EVENT OR YOU CAN'T SPEND IT ON
1:23:31PM THE PLACE FOR THE EVENT.
1:23:32PM THERE'S NOT REALLY STUFF THERE TO GET FOLKS STARTED.
1:23:36PM JANELLE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US ON THIS.
1:23:38PM THE OTHER THING, THE GENTLEMAN CAME IN FROM CAIRO AND
1:23:41PM FRIENDS TODAY.
1:23:42PM I WANT TO SPEAK UP FOR HIM.
1:23:43PM HE WAS PROBABLY SAYING HOW DO I APPLY FOR THESE AND HOW DO I
1:23:47PM GET MY FINGER IN THE POT A LITTLE BIT?
1:23:49PM SO WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOW DO WE GET TO
1:23:53PM APPLY FOR THESE?
1:23:54PM HOW DO WE LET SOMEBODY KNOW WE ARE INTERESTED IN THESE?
1:23:58PM BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT.
1:24:00PM IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS ORGANICALLY GROWN.
1:24:04PM NOT A SYSTEM FOR IT AND I COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG.
1:24:06PM MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THE SMART FORM IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
1:24:11PM I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING.
1:24:11PM I COME HERE AND HANG OUT.
1:24:13PM I LOOK AT SOME OF THESE AND DO HAVE TO ASK HOW LONG DO WE
1:24:18PM NOT PUSH THEM FORWARD TO MAKE CHANGES THAT THEY BECOME
1:24:21PM SELF-SUFFICIENT.
1:24:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:24:22PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND SECOND
1:24:24PM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:24:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:24:26PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:24:27PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU WANTED TO DO A MOTION.
1:24:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:24:31PM ACTUALLY, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR HAGAR OR STAFF.
1:24:39PM THANK MS. POYNOR FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
1:24:42PM ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS THE FUNDING STREAM
1:24:45PM FOR THIS GRANT APPROVAL, SLASH, GRANT WRITING CLASSES.
1:24:48PM IF ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WEAN PEOPLE OFF
1:24:51PM THE GRANTS, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TEACH THEM HOW TO WRITE
1:24:56PM GRANTS.
1:24:57PM I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN A FUNDING STREAM AS MAYBE PART OF
1:25:02PM THIS MONEY.
1:25:03PM I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, WE'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION
1:25:05PM TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO BRING FORWARD WITH THIS IN THE NEXT
1:25:08PM CYCLE, BUT I WOULD SUPPORT, I DON'T KNOW, HUNDRED THOUSAND
1:25:12PM DOLLARS TO GO TOWARD THAT.
1:25:15PM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
1:25:17PM UNALLOCATED.
1:25:20PM TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO WRITE GRANTS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
1:25:22PM CLASSES.
1:25:23PM THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO HIRE PEOPLE.
1:25:25PM YOU HAVE TO CREATE -- THEY MAY NOT NEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND
1:25:31PM DOLLARS.
1:25:31PM BUT JUST TO GET THEM STARTED ON THAT PROCESS, WHAT THAT
1:25:35PM LOOKS LIKE, WHAT A SCHEDULE WOULD BE TO OFFER THOSE CLASSES.
1:25:38PM FOR ME, THAT IS A GOOD PART OF IT.
1:25:42PM OR IF THEY CAN JUST SEND PEOPLE -- I KNOW THERE ARE SOME
1:25:45PM BOCC STUFF THAT DOES THAT.
1:25:47PM WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO HELP FEED
1:25:51PM THAT.
1:25:51PM SO WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE.
1:25:53PM THAT'S MY QUESTION.
1:25:55PM MY MOTION IS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THAT COMES BACK TO
1:26:00PM US, ARE THERE ANY NONPROFITS THAT NEED CITY FUNDING FOR
1:26:04PM THEIR GRANT MATCHING?
1:26:05PM LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
1:26:07PM ARE THERE GROUPS, LARGER NONPROFITS THAT NEED THAT MATCHING
1:26:13PM FUNDING, THAT NEED TO SAY, HEY, CITY OF TAMPA IS GIVING US
1:26:17PM FUNDING, BECAUSE IF THERE ARE, WE NEED TO HOLD THOSE
1:26:20PM SEPARATE.
1:26:20PM THAT'S MY MOTION, IF THEY WOULD BRING THAT FORWARD WHEN YOU
1:26:24PM BRING THAT FORWARD FOR THE FY '26 SESSION.
1:26:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION --
1:26:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, IDENTIFY.
1:26:33PM THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
1:26:34PM IDENTIFY AND BRING THEM FORWARD AND THE AMOUNT THAT WE NEED
1:26:38PM TO FUND THEM FOR SO THEY CAN GET THOSE MATCHING FUNDS.
1:26:42PM WHENEVER -- WHEN THEY BRING IT FORWARD DURING EITHER THE
1:26:47PM FIRST CYCLE -- I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE PLANNING TO DO THE
1:26:52PM DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS, BUT DURING A BUDGET WORKSHOP SESSION
1:26:56PM WHERE ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK, THE SOCIAL ACTION
1:26:59PM ART FUND.
1:27:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
1:27:03PM SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
1:27:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT OPPOSED TO 501(C)(3)s DOING
1:27:11PM WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
1:27:13PM IF I HAVE TO TEACH THE WORLD TO BE A NONPROFIT.
1:27:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S NOT PART OF THE MOTION.
1:27:16PM THAT'S NOT PART OF THE MOTION.
1:27:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
1:27:19PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:27:20PM AYE.
1:27:21PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:27:21PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:27:22PM THAT CONCLUDES THE WORKSHOP.
1:27:24PM IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ABSOLUTELY NEW BUSINESS, HOLD IT TO
1:27:29PM TONIGHT.
1:27:30PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I KNOW YOU HAVE ONE.
1:27:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE
1:27:33PM SPECIAL CALLED OPERATING BUDGET WORKSHOP MONDAY, AUGUST 18
1:27:36PM TO MONDAY, AUGUST 11.
1:27:38PM THE REASON IS THAT THE CITY CCTV ALREADY HAS SCHEDULED
1:27:42PM UPGRADE FOR THIS ROOM ON THAT DATE, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
1:27:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
1:27:48PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:27:49PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:27:50PM AYE.
1:27:50PM MS. EDWARDS.
1:27:56PM >> JUST A MESSAGE FROM CCTV IN REGARDS TO YOUR MIKES, THEY
1:28:01PM ARE ONLY -- YOU'RE ONLY ABLE TO HAVE FIVE MIKES ON AT ONE
1:28:05PM TIME.
1:28:05PM THE CHAIR'S MIKE IS ALWAYS ON, WHICH MEANS FOUR OTHER MIKES
1:28:09PM ARE ON.
1:28:09PM THIS DOES INCLUDE THE ATTORNEY AND THE CLERK.
1:28:12PM SO IF YOU NOTICE THAT A MIKE TURNS OFF, IT COULD BE THAT
1:28:15PM SOMEONE ELSE HAS TURNED ON THEIR MIKE.
1:28:17PM IF A SIXTH MIKE TURNS ON, IT WILL DEFINITELY BOUNCE SOMEONE
1:28:21PM OUT.
1:28:22PM IT'S VERY RANDOM.
1:28:23PM IT COULD BE SOMEONE THAT'S ACTUALLY SPEAKING AT THE TIME.
1:28:26PM I BELIEVE IT HAPPENED WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
1:28:29PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, SO SOMEONE TURNED ON THEIR MIKE.
1:28:32PM THEY JUST WANTED ME TO LET YOU ALL BE AWARE OF THIS, THAT
1:28:35PM THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING.
1:28:36PM THANK YOU.
1:28:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:28:38PM WHO WAS THE SECOND?
1:28:41PM VIERA WAS THE SECOND.
1:28:43PM IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
1:28:45PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL TONIGHT?
1:28:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
1:28:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:28:54PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:28:57PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
1:28:59PM MEMBER CARLSON.
1:29:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:29:01PM AYE.
1:29:01PM WE'RE ADJOURNED.
1:29:03PM WE'LL BE BACK AT 5:01 P.M.
1:29:06PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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