TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 1, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:03:19AM >> MY NAME IS SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK FOR THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:03:26AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:03:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:03:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:03:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
9:03:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:03:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:03:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:03:33AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:03:35AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
THANK YOU.
WE WILL NOW CONDUCT THE ELECTIONS FOR CHAIRMAN AND CHAIRMAN
PRO TEM FOR THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
HERE ARE THE ELECTION GUIDELINES.
THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR WILL BE HELD FIRST.
NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.
PLEASE WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BEFORE NOMINATING A CANDIDATE.

I WILL OPEN THE NOMINATIONS AND CLOSE THEM AFTER ALL
NOMINATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.
VOTES WILL BE COUNTED BY RAISING THE HAND.
THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN IN THE ORDER OF THE NOMINATIONS,
BEGINNING WITH THE FIRST NAME NOMINATED.
THE VOTE WILL CEASE AS SOON AS THERE IS A MAJORITY, WHICH
REQUIRES FOUR VOTES.
HAVING SAID THAT, NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR CHAIRMAN.
MR. VIERA.
9:04:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I NOMINATE ALAN CLENDENIN.
9:04:38AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
ALAN CLENDENIN HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
9:04:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I NOMINATE GUIDO MANISCALCO.
9:04:46AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
GUIDO MANISCALCO HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
ALL IN FAVOR OF COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR
HAND.
ALL IN FAVOR OF COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR
HAND.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO HAS BEEN NOMINATED AND HAS WON.
9:05:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:05:25AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
9:05:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND FOR
BELIEVING IN ME.
IT'S AN HONOR SERVING WITH ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU.
9:05:36AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
THANK YOU.
NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR THE CHAIRMAN PRO TEM.
IS THERE A NOMINATION?
9:05:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I NOMINATE MR. CLENDENIN.
9:05:47AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
MR. CLENDENIN HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
IS THERE ANOTHER -- OH, YES.
9:05:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CARLSON.
9:05:54AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
9:05:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL WITHDRAW MY NAME.
THANK YOU.
I WITHDRAW MY NAME.
THANK YOU.
9:06:06AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. CLENDENIN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
OKAY.
MR. CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
9:06:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER YEAR WORKING WITH COUNCIL AND
CHAIRMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO.
THANK YOU.
9:06:24AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
OKAY.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CRA.
YES, SIR.

9:06:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:06:39AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON HAS BEEN
NOMINATED.
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR VICE-CHAIR OF THE CRA?
9:07:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN.
9:07:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD DECLINE THAT NOMINATION.
THANK YOU.
9:07:14AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
YOU DECLINE.
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
9:07:19AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I NOMINATE LYNN HURTAK.
9:07:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I DECLINE.
9:07:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DON'T CARE.
I'LL TAKE IT.
9:07:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
LUIS VIERA.
9:07:32AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
LUIS VIERA HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
MS. HENDERSON.
9:07:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I REALLY LOVED SERVING AS CHAIR OF THE CRA.
I APPRECIATE THE VOTE OF CONFIDENCE IN ME AGAIN.

ALMOST ALL OF THE CRAs ARE IN MY DISTRICT EXCEPT ONE.
I LEARNED SO MUCH AND REALLY A GREAT ROLE TO BE IN AND I AM
HONORED TO SERVE AGAIN.
I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
9:08:09AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.
MR. VIERA.
9:08:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I AM, AGAIN, PREPARED TO ASSUME THE HEAVY
BURDENS OF THIS OFFICE.
THANK YOU.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:08:17AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE.
IT WILL BE A GOOD YEAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE MEETING BACK OVER TO MR.
MANISCALCO.
9:08:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO
ORDER OFFICIALLY.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE ROLL CALL.
DO WE NEED TO DO IT AGAIN?
OKAY.
ROLL CALL.
I'M SORRY.
IF WE COULD STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN KEEP

STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[MOMENT OF SILENCE]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:09:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL.
9:09:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:09:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:09:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:09:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
9:09:22AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:09:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:09:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:09:25AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:09:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 17, 2025
AND THE WORKSHOP AND EVENING SESSIONS HELD ON APRIL 24,
2025?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU HAVE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:09:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, I DO.

9:09:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
BEFORE YOU BEGIN, CAN I GET AN APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND
THE ADDENDUM?
SORRY.
JUST A MOMENT.
THERE'S AN ADDENDUM ITEM.
THE ITEM ON THE ADDENDUM IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING,
RATIFYING, CONFIRMING THE APPOINTMENTS OF THE EQUAL BUSINESS
OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL.
LET'S GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO PULL?
9:10:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 7 TO TAKE THAT OFF
BECAUSE THE F.D.O.T. DOESN'T HAVE AN UPDATE FOR THIS
QUARTER.
BUT I WOULD REQUEST THAT NEXT QUARTER THEY UPDATE US ON SOME
OF THE BIKE PATHS GOING ALONG OLA, CENTRAL.
THEY ARE DOING A BUNCH OF WORK.
GETTING A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT NORTH HIGHLAND IN MY
AREA.
IF FOLKS -- IF THEY COULD COME AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON SOME
OF THE EXTRA MOBILITY ITEMS, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
9:11:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COULD WE ASK FOR ALSO AN UPDATE ON THE 275
PROJECT?
9:11:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.

9:11:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION TO ADD TO
THE AGENDA?
9:11:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN REQUIRE F.D.O.T. TO
COME, BUT I THINK WE'RE JUST REQUESTING.
9:11:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU WANT THE SUBJECTS INCLUDED IN YOUR
REQUEST.
9:11:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ASK MR. BHIDE TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT
MULTIMODAL WORK THAT F.D.O.T. IS DOING.
AND ADDITIONALLY UPDATES ON 275.
I'M ASSUMING THE MALFUNCTION JUNCTION AREA.
9:11:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:11:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
GREAT.
9:11:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, CORRECT?
ALL IN FAVOR?
MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 7?
YES, SIR.
9:11:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS UPDATE IS FROM A PREVIOUS MOTION
SOMEONE ELSE MADE, BUT MY NAME IS ON THIS MOTION.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE APPRECIATE D.O.T.
THEY REPORT TO THE GOVERNOR AND THE STATE, NOT TO US, AND WE
APPRECIATE THEM COMING AND GIVING US UPDATES, EVEN THOUGH

THE PUBLIC AND WE MAY NOT AGREE WITH THEM ALL THE TIME, WE
APPRECIATE THEM GIVING UPDATES.
THANK YOU.
9:12:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 7?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30 TO DO IT, BUT THERE IS A HEARING
AT 1:30 ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE.
BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30.
9:12:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT NUMBER IS THAT?
IF WE CAN GO TO 61.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
COUNCIL, THIS IS A MISNOTICE.
IT CANNOT BE HEARD.
IT WILL NOT BE HEARD.
THERE IS NO NEED TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30 BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING
TO BE A CONTINUANCE.
IF COUNCIL WISHES TO ADDRESS YOUR 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING AT
THIS TIME, YOU CAN DO SO BY REMOVING NUMBER 61.
AND YOU CAN ALSO, IF YOU'D LIKE, SET THE DATE FOR
RESCHEDULING SO THE STAFF CAN NOTIFY THE APPLICANT.
9:13:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 61 FROM

THE AGENDA FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THEN IF WE CAN SET THE PUBLIC HEARING BY REQUEST OF THE
APPLICANT FOR JUNE 6, 2025, 1:30 P.M., RIGHT HERE AT 315
EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, 33602.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:13:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:13:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
IS THERE AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, CHIEF?
NO.
NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ITEM 64 HAS A MEMO WITH ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION.
$12.8 MILLION CONTRACT, DO YOU NEED ANYBODY PRESENT?
NO.
ALL RIGHT.
HOW ABOUT ITEM 65?
THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM MS. COLINA.
YES.

9:13:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, THIS HAS TO COME IN FRONT OF US TWICE,
SO, YEAH, WE SHOULD PROBABLY HEAR ABOUT IT.
9:13:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, AND IT'S $40 MILLION.
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM 66, STAFF TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
YES, SIR.
9:14:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SORRY.
IT IS THE NEXT ONE.
9:14:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WOULD YOU LIKE FOLKS PRESENT FOR 66?
ALL RIGHT.
ADMINISTRATION TO APPEAR.
COUNCILMAN VIERA IS ASKING THAT ITEM 67 BE CONTINUED TO JUNE
26.
9:14:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
SO MOVED.
9:14:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE 67 TO JUNE 26, 2025.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE HAVE A MOBILITY DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE 2023 MOBILITY
FEE STUDY.
WE HAVE A MEMO FROM BRANDON CAMPBELL, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:14:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
BASICALLY THE MEMO JUST SAYS THAT WE APPROVED A CONTRACT AND
THEY ARE LOOKING INTO IT.

THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME ANSWERS FOR US BY EARLY 2026.
I DON'T NEED PEOPLE HERE FOR THAT.
9:14:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE MEMO IS SUFFICIENT.
NO ON 68.
ITEM 69, THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT FROM MR. BHIDE.
DO YOU WANT SOMEBODY IN PERSON?
9:14:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
I THINK WE STILL NEED FOLKS TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE GETTING SO MANY E-MAILS AND PHONE CALLS, PEOPLE ARE
REALLY WORRIED.
9:15:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 70, IS THAT A YES?
THERE IS A WRITTEN RESPONSE.
AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF E-MAILS WITH 70.
ITEM 71?
ABBYE FEELEY WILL BE PRESENT TO PROVIDE A VERBAL UPDATE, SO
THAT IS A YES.
ITEM 72, EVAN JOHNSON IS ASKING THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED TO
AUGUST 28, 2025.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE WRITTEN STAFF

REPORTS?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
NOW, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO
APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, FOR REAL THIS TIME.
THANK YOU.
9:16:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE THIS MORNING.
IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE HERE DR. CHIEF BERCAW TO
TALK ABOUT OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
WE'RE GOING TO BE HONORING OFFICER CHRISTOPHER MILLER AND WE
WILL BE HEARING ABOUT THE GREAT WORK HE DOES IN PREVENTING
RETAIL THEFT.
SOMETHING VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ON SO MANY LEVELS.
SETTING THE FOLKS WHO DO THE ACT ON THE RIGHT WAY AS WELL AS
HELPING OUT SMALL BUSINESSES AND TO TALK ABOUT THIS
INDIVIDUAL, WE HAVE DR. CHIEF BERCAW.
9:16:41AM >>CHIEF BERCAW:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BEFORE I DO HIGHLIGHT OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH, I WOULD LIKE
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS EVENING WE ARE HAVING OUR ANNUAL
MEMORIAL SERVICE WHERE WE HONOR THE 32 OFFICERS THAT GAVE
THEIR LIVES FOR THE CITY.
WE'RE ALSO HONORING THEIR FAMILIES.
WE JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THEY WILL NEVER BE
FORGOTTEN THE SACRIFICE THEY MADE.
THE INVITATION IS OPEN TO OBVIOUSLY ALL OF YOU BUT ANYBODY
IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WISHES TO BE THERE.
IN FRONT OF POLICE HEADQUARTERS TONIGHT AT 7:00.
YES, YOU DID SAY RETAIL THEFT.
RETAIL THEFT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT AND
NOT ONLY PREVENTING IT, BUT I'LL READ YOU A STORY ABOUT OUR
OFFICER OF THE MONTH, CHRIS MILLER, WHO ACTUALLY HOLDS THOSE
ACCOUNTABLE.
YOU SEE ACROSS THE NATION WHERE SOME RETAIL THEFT SUSPECTS
ARE NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE OFFICERS LIKE CHRIS MILLER THAT YOU'LL
HEAR TODAY.
MASTER POLICE OFFICER CHRIS MILLER IS BEING HONORED FOR HIS
EXCEPTIONAL INVESTIGATIVE WORK AND LEADERSHIP IN COMBATING
ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT.
NOT THE ONE-OFFS, BUT THE ORGANIZED.
ON MARCH 21st OF THIS YEAR, HE LED A SUCCESSFUL

INVESTIGATION INTO A COORDINATED CRIMINAL GROUP OF SUSPECTS
RESPONSIBLE FOR STEALING MORE THAN $8400 IN MERCHANDISE FROM
LOCAL SHOPS.
THIS CASE WAS INITIATED BY A SILENT ALERT GENERATED GPS
TRACKING DEVICE WHICH IS PART OF A PILOT PROGRAM THAT MPO
MILLER WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN LAUNCHING WITH PARTNERSHIP WITH
ONE OF THE COMPANIES.
UPON RECEIVING ALERT, HE QUICKLY TRACKED THE SUSPECTS,
CONFIRMING THEIR IDENTITIES USING REAL-TIME GPS DATA AND
SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE, COORDINATED THROUGH MULTIAGENCY
RESPONSE IN THE LAKELAND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IN THIS ATTEMPT, THEY WERE ABLE TO APPREHEND THE SUSPECTS
AND ABLE TO RECOVER 82 STOLEN ITEMS.
OVER THE PAST YEAR, MPO MILLER'S INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS HAVE
RESULTED IN OVER 162 PROBABLE CAUSE FINDINGS AND CONTRIBUTED
TO A 71% REDUCTION IN RETAIL THEFT WITHIN HIS OWN PATROL
DISTRICT.
AS THE DEPARTMENT'S LIAISON TO THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE AND A
KEY CONTRIBUTOR TO OUR TAMPA BAY REGIONAL INTELLIGENCE
CENTER RETAIL THEFT INITIATIVE, HE HAS PLAYED A CRITICAL
ROLE IN ADVANCING TAMPA'S CITYWIDE CRIME PREVENTION
STRATEGIES.
MPO MILLER EXEMPLIFIES THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF
PROFESSIONALISM, INITIATIVE AND SERVICE.
HIS DEDICATION REFLECTS THE VERY BEST OF THE TAMPA POLICE

DEPARTMENT.
IT IS WITH GREAT PRIDE AND GRATITUDE THAT WE RECOGNIZE HIS
EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE TODAY, WHICH IS WHY HE IS ALSO BEING
RECOGNIZED AS OUR MAY OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, CHIEF.
NOW, BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU, SIR, WE HAVE A LOT OF
FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY, STARTING WITH THE PBA.
9:19:35AM >> BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA, PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PLAQUE.
JOB WELL DONE.
9:19:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, OFFICER MILLER.
MY NAME IS MARYBETH WILLIAMS.
I'M HERE WITH THE FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA RIVERWALK.
ON BEHALF OF OUR ORGANIZATION, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PRESENT YOU WITH A
PERSONALIZED ENGRAVED ALONG THE TAMPA RIVERWALK.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CORPORATE ORGANIZATIONS WHO SUPPORT
FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
ON THEIR BEHALF I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH A FEW
TOKENS OF THEIR APPRECIATION.
SPLITSVILLE ADULT PARTY, $200 IN GIFT CERTIFICATES TO
FLORIDA AVENUE BREWING.
$200 AT THE EPICUREAN GIFT CERTIFICATE.
STARSHIP DINNER FOR TWO, PIRATE WATER TAXI.

TAMPA RIVERWALK, TWO COMPLIMENTARY ONE-HOUR RENTALS.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:41AM >> MARY DILLON, STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
BEHALF OF THE STRAZ, PLEASE ACCEPT TWO TICKETS TO UPCOMING
BROADWAY SERIES.
25-26 SERIES.
BEVERAGE TICKETS AND MY BUSINESS CARD IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BRIAN FORD WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS MORNING'S ELECTIONS AND THANKS FOR
ALL THAT YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR TONIGHT'S MEMORIAL SERVICE.
DO IT BETTER THAN ANY CITY I'VE BEEN IN.
MAKES US PROUD TO BE IN TAMPA.
SIR, THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR YOUR SACRIFICE.
WE HAD A TALK AND WE HAD A FUMBLE.
I'LL GIVE YOU THIS TEMPORARY BALL.
I'LL GIVE YOU MY CONTACT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY AND THE
SACRIFICE YOU MAKE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO GIVING YOUR FAMILY THAT TOUR AT ONE

BUCCANEER PLACE.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, CHIEF, JEFF, VICE PRESIDENT OF
MARKETING FOR THE FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS, COLUMBIA, ULELE,
CHA CHA COCONUTS.
WE'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND ALL YOU DO
FOR THE COMMUNITY BY OFFERING THIS GIFT CARD THAT YOU CAN
PLEASE BRING YOUR FAMILY AND ENJOY AT ANY OF OUR LOCATIONS.
THE GONZMART FAMILY IS AN INCREDIBLE SUPPORTER OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT, FIRST RESPONDERS, AND THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN TO
SAY THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
CATCH THOSE GUYS, WOULD YOU?
9:22:26AM >> DEFINITELY.
9:22:26AM >> KEEP THEM UNDER CONTROL.
I'LL PUT THOSE THERE SO YOU NEED TO TAKE THOSE WITH YOU.
THERE IS A SPECIAL INVOCATION DEVELOPED FOR THE POLICE AND
FIRE AND FIRST RESPONDERS.
THAT'S FOR YOU TO KEEP.
ON BEHALF OF MEAT MARKET AND OLD HYDE PARK, WE'RE PROVIDING
WITH YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE ON BEHALF OF THE YUMMY HOUSE
CHINA BISTRO, I ALWAYS SAY THIS, THE CHIEF LIKES TO GO
THERE.

SO JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP.
SO THAT BRINGS IT ALL UP.
BELLABRAVA, YOU'VE GOT THAT OVER IN THE MIDTOWN SECTION.
I HOPE YOU ENJOY YOURSELF AND GO WORK OUT.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:23:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, SIR.
SIR, ON BEHALF OF A REALLY GRATEFUL CITY --
9:23:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND ONE MORE ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA
THEATRE.
THEY HAD TO LEAVE EARLY.
THIS IS A ONE-YEAR MEMBERSHIP FOR TWO.
YOU GET $3 OFF REGULAR PRICE MOVIE TICKETS AND THIS BUCKET
OF GOODIES.
IT'S NOT COMING FROM ME.
IT'S COMING FROM THEM.
ENJOY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON BEHALF OF A REALLY GRATEFUL CITY OF TAMPA,
SIR, FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, I SAW YOUR FAMILY HERE
INCLUDING THE GENTLEMAN -- THAT'S AWESOME.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK AND YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU, SIR.
I MEAN THAT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:12AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
IT'S A GREAT HONOR BEING RECOGNIZED.
THANK YOU, CHIEF BERCAW, FOR YOUR SUPPORT, ALL THE COMMAND
STAFF.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THANK YOU TO MY WIFE SHANNON, DAUGHTER
KATE AND ALL THE FAMILY FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT
THROUGHOUT 23 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT THEM.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:24:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THE POLICE
FORCE ON A DAILY BASIS.
IT'S 365 DAYS A YEAR.
HOWEVER, WE SOMETIMES FORGET A CRIME LIKE WHAT THEY ARE
COMMITTING, THEY CALL IT SMALL CRIME, BUT REALLY A
MULTIBILLION DOLLAR CRIME WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE
COUNTRY.
THE ONES PAYING THE PRICE ARE THE ONES BUYING THE PRODUCTS
AND PAYING FOR THEM.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU, THE WHOLE STAFF, THE CHIEF AND
DEPARTMENT FOR THE FINE WORK YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF

TAMPA, NOT YESTERDAY, NOT TODAY, BUT FOREVER.
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
9:25:05AM >> THANK YOU.
9:25:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE AGREED AS A COUNCIL NOT TO TALK DURING
COMMENDATIONS, SO I APOLOGIZE TO MY COLLEAGUES.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST FEARS I GET FROM MY CONSTITUENTS IS THAT
WE'LL BECOME LIKE NEW YORK OR L.A. OR SAN FRANCISCO WHERE
PEOPLE AREN'T SAFE IN RETAIL STORES.
LIKE THE STREETS OF NEW YORK, YOU GO INTO A WALGREENS AND
GET AN ATTENDANT TO HELP YOU UNLOCK THE SHAMPOO RACK OR
SIMPLE THINGS THAT DON'T COST THAT MUCH RELATIVELY.
PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF TAMPA BECOMING LIKE THAT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR KEEPING US SAFE
EVERY DAY AND PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT
KIND OF PROGRAM AND WE CAN SAY WE'RE NOT LIKE THAT.
THANK YOU.
9:25:46AM >> APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
THANK YOU.
9:25:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO IT'S FUNNY.
I WANTED TO HONOR PAUL GUZZO FOR A WHILE.
HE IS SUCH A REMARKABLE TAMPANIA AND GREAT GUY BUT NEVER

THOUGHT IT WAS PROPER TO HONOR HIM WHILE ACTIVELY A
JOURNALIST.
HE'S GOTTEN SO MANY AWARDS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA,
NAACP, THE DELTAS AND SO MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
NOW THAT HE'S NO LONGER AN ACTIVE JOURNALIST, I THOUGHT IT
WAS A GOOD TIME TO DO THIS FOR THIS GREAT GUY.
WHENEVER I THINK ABOUT THE WORK THAT PAUL GUZZO DOES, I
THINK OF GARY MOORE WHO WAS A REPORTER FOR THE THEN
ST. PETERSBURG TIMES WHO WOULD UNCOVER SOMETHING VERY FEW
PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT, THE ROSEWOOD MASSACRE IN 1923, LITTLE
OVER TWO DOZEN AFRICAN AMERICANS MURDERED OUT OF A TOWN OF A
HUNDRED AFRICAN AMERICANS IN FLORIDA.
ONE OF THE MANY INSTANCES OF RACIAL INJUSTICE AND VIOLENCE
UNKNOWN.
FOR ME, PAUL GUZZO IS THAT KIND OF JOURNALIST WHO UNCOVERS
THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT BUT PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW
ABOUT.
THE WORK HE HAS DONE HAS BEEN AMAZING, NOT JUST IN TALKING
ABOUT ISSUES OF IGNORED RACIAL VIOLENCE AND THINGS LIKE
THAT, AS WE'LL TALK ABOUT, BUT TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF OTHER
-- I MEAN, PAUL ALWAYS DID UNIQUE STORIES THAT MEANT A LOT
TO THE COMMUNITY.
I FIRST GOT TO KNOW PAUL TEN YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS DOING AN
EVENT AT THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE ON THE BAY OF PIGS INVASION,
AND HE COVERED IT.

WE GOT TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER.
WE WERE SHARING SOME FUNNY STORIES IN THAT REGARD.
BUT THE MAIN THING WE'RE HONORING MR. GUZZO FOR IS HIS WORK
WITH ABANDONED HISTORICALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERIES.
THIS GOES AGAIN TO THE HEART OF THE UGLY, PAINFUL RACIAL
FLORIDA HISTORY OF INJUSTICE, OF VIOLENCE OR BRUTALITY AND
LYNCHING THAT NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT OR PUBLICLY
ACKNOWLEDGE.
PAUL HAS DONE MONUMENTAL WORK THAT HAS REACHED TALLAHASSEE
THROUGH HIS ADVOCACY.
THIS ULTIMATELY FIRST STARTED WITH HIS WORK ON THE LOST
MOUNT ZION CEMETERY THROUGH THE TAMPA BAY TIMES THAT WAS
PUBLISHED IN 2019 WHICH LITERALLY MOVED MOUNTAINS.
OUT OF THIS GREW NOT JUST A RECKONING AND HISTORICAL
DISCOVERY, BUT A MOVEMENT THAT WE FEEL HERE IN TAMPA ON LOST
CEMETERIES.
OUT OF THIS WOULD GROW THE FOUNDING -- STRIKE THAT, THE
REDISCOVERY OF RIDGEWOOD CEMETERY NEAR 56th STREET WHERE
ALMOST 300 SOULS WERE BURIED AND LOST.
CLEARWATER HEIGHTS, COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY WITH THE ITALIAN
CLUB, PORT TAMPA CEMETERY, MAY STRINGER HOUSE CEMETERY.
KEYSTONE PARK MEMORIAL CEMETERY.
THANKS TO THE LEADERSHIP OF MANY PEOPLE IN TALLAHASSEE,
INCLUDING REPRESENTATIVE DRISKELL, WE GOT LEGISLATION SIGNED
BY THE GOVERNOR TO HELP FUND LOCAL COMMUNITIES WHO WANT TO

HELP OUT WITH LOCAL ABANDONED AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERIES
AND SO MANY OTHER STORIES.
I REMEMBER A GREAT STORY THAT MR. GUZZO DID ON AFRICAN
AMERICANS DURING WORLD WAR II AT MacDILL AND THE GREAT
DISRESPECT THAT THEY HAD.
GREAT STORIES ON MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
STORY AFTER STORY.
HE'S ALSO A GREAT WRITER WHO HAS DONE MANY, MANY BOOKS.
ONE VERY SPECIAL TO ME IS THE BOOK RECENTLY FOR CUBAN, FOR
FREEDOM, WHICH HE DID ON RAUL AND RHONDA.
WHEN I READ IT, HE ACTUALLY MENTIONS DR. JUAN, MY GREAT
GRANDFATHER WHO WAS MENTIONED IN THAT BOOK.
PAUL IS A VERY REMARKABLE GUY.
HIS WORK IN JOURNALISM REALLY, REALLY MOVED MOUNTAINS.
I KNOW WE APPRECIATE HIS WORK.
MAYBE FOR NOW FINISHED OR MAYBE FOREVER FINISHED WITH THE
ROLE OF JOURNALIST, I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HONOR HIM.
FOR THAT, PAUL AND SO MUCH MORE, YOU ARE A GOOD GUY.
WE'RE PROUD TO HONOR YOU, SIR.
HERE YOU GO, BUDDY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:56AM >> THANK YOU.
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, MY GOAL WAS NEVER HAVE TO WEAR A TIE
TO WORK.
OVER THAT WAS A SUCCESS.

I WOULD SAY THIS IS GREAT ON TOP OF THAT.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND A CEMETERY ONLY STOPS BEING
ERASED WHEN IT'S UNCOVERED.
UNTIL THEN, THEY ARE STILL BEING ERASED.
WE DISCOVERED 11 POSSIBLE SITES OF ERASED CEMETERIES.
SIX OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE DONE THE WORK TO DISCOVER
GRAVES STILL THERE.
FIVE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE YET TO DO THAT.
FOUR OF THE CEMETERIES ARE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
RIGHT NOW, FOUR CEMETERIES ARE STILL BEING ERASED ON YOUR
WATCH.
I KNOW IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT I JUST WANT TO THINK
THERE'S SOMETHING MORE WE CAN DO.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
QUICK STORY, FIRST, YOU DESERVED A
PULITZER FOR YOUR WORK.
THE LEVEL OF YOUR WORK, THE MAGNITUDE AND IMPACT, YOU TRULY
DESERVE IT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
NUMBER TWO, JUST A SHORT STORY OF HOW LONG I'VE BEEN A PAUL
GUZZO FAN.
THE NIGHT THAT I TOLD MY PARENTS I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO LAW
SCHOOL AND I WANT TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL, I WAS ON THE WAY
TO SEE THE CHARLIE WALL MOVIE.

THE GUZZO BROTHERS, PETER AND PAUL, STARRING THE GREAT GENE.
I HAVE YOUR BOOK IN MY OFFICE, THE DARK SIDE OF SUNSHINE.
WENT TO ONE OF THE BOOK SIGNINGS, HAD IT SIGNED THERE.
YOU TALK ABOUT STORIES OF YBOR CITY, OF TAMPA THAT YOU CAN'T
FIND ANYWHERE.
WHETHER IT WAS PUBLISHED IN CIGAR CITY MAGAZINE OR JUST IN
THE BOOK.
I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOUR WRITING AND I APPRECIATE IT
VERY MUCH.
BUT GOING BACK TO YOUR WORK AS A JOURNALIST, THE IMPACT THAT
YOU'VE HAD ON THIS COMMUNITY, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE
AUDIENCE TODAY THAT WILL BE PROBABLY BRINGING UP ALL YOUR
WORK.
IT'S INVALUABLE.
JUST KNOW THAT YOU ARE APPRECIATED.
YOU'RE TURNING THE TIDE OF HISTORY.
BUT AS YOU SAID, ON OUR WATCH.
IT'S UP TO US TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.
I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME.
WE NEED TO DO MORE.
BUT IF IT WASN'T FOR YOUR WORK, SOME OF THE LOTS MAY HAVE
BEEN LOST UNTIL WHO KNOWS WHEN.
JUST KNOW THAT YOU ARE APPRECIATED AND THIS IS THE LEAST WE
CAN DO TO HONOR YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:33:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE KNOWN PAUL SINCE HE
WAS WITH THE TRIBUNE.
I DON'T THINK I KNEW YOU AT LA GACETA OR CREATIVE LOAFING.
YOU'VE BEEN IN ESSENCE AN HISTORIAN OF TAMPA FOR A LONG
TIME.
YOU WERE INVALUABLE AT THE TIMES IN CAPTURING ALL DIFFERENT
STORIES ABOUT THE CULTURE OF TAMPA.
I REMEMBER EVERY TIME I INTRODUCED YOU, I'D GET IT SLIGHTLY
OFF.
BUT LIKE YOU AND GENE DROVE DOWN FROM EXIT 7A.
YOU DIDN'T GROW UP HERE BUT YOU KNOW MORE HISTORY OF TAMPA
THAN ALMOST ANYBODY.
ONE TIME I WAS DRIVING NORTH THROUGH NEW JERSEY AND I CALLED
HIM AND SAID PASSING EXIT 7.
HE SAID, NO, I'M FROM 7A.
I DIDN'T DRIVE OFF TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LEARNING OUR CULTURE AND CAPTURING IT
AND PUTTING IT IN THE HISTORY.
YOU'VE WRITTEN SO MANY IMPORTANT STORIES FROM EVERYTHING
FROM MUSIC, HISTORY, CULTURE, TIES WITH CUBA.
EVERYTHING.
9:34:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AS
A JOURNALIST.
THAT IS SO IMPORTANT NOW MORE THAN EVER AS TRULY THAT'S

BEING HAMPERED IN THIS COUNTRY.
I DID WANT TO ASK, WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW?
9:34:40AM >> I WORK FOR USF.
9:34:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.
WE WILL MISS YOUR REPORTING AND THE IMPORTANCE YOU BROUGHT
TO THE ISSUES.
9:34:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BEING A JOURNALIST IS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST
THINGS TO DO.
WHERE ARE THE FACTS?
HIDDEN OR REAL FACTS?
TO DO THOSE THINGS, YOU HAVE TO BE INNOVATIVE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SMELL FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOING WELL,
AND YOU HAVE TO WRITE IT THE WAY YOU SEE IT.
ALL THOSE THINGS IN THE COMPOSITION OF A WRITING, IT TAKES A
SPECIAL INDIVIDUAL TO PUT IT ON PAPER SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND HOW YOU DID IT AND YOU DID QUITE WELL.
I LIKE YOUR HAIR CUT, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
9:35:34AM >> GOD'S HAIR CUT.
9:35:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.
I WANTED TO SEE YOUR REACTION TO IT.
THANK YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND WHAT YOU
CONTINUE DOING.
WITHOUT PRESS, WITHOUT MEDIA, WE HAVE A COUNTRY THAT'S
DIVIDED AND WILL CONTINUE TO DIVIDE MORE.
THAT'S MY OPINION.

I'M A MEMBER, EVERY TIME I HAVE A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN
BUYING A NEWSPAPER, I BUY IT ON A YEARLY BASIS BECAUSE IT IS
WRITTEN BY INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELF, ALL OF THEM THAT ARE
BEING FORGOTTEN IN THIS COUNTRY.
SEE MORE AND MORE IN MEDIA OUTLETS, ESPECIALLY NEWSPRINT
MEDIA GOING OUT OF BUSINESS, THIS COUNTRY IS HEADED FOR
DISASTER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:36:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:36:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CONGRATULATIONS, MR. GUZZO.
ONCE A JOURNALIST, ALWAYS A JOURNALIST.
IT WON'T GO AWAY.
IT WON'T LEAVE YOUR BODY, THAT'S FOR SURE, OR YOUR MIND.
I APPRECIATE YOUR LEVEL OF WORK, ESPECIALLY YOUR CARE FOR
BLACK SPACES THAT ARE FORGOTTEN.
IT IS VERY EVIDENT BY NOT ONLY THE ACCOLADES YOU RECEIVED IN
THE PAST BUT EVEN YOUR STATEMENTS TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE.
OF COURSE, WE WISH YOU WELL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
FLORIDA.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN THERE A MINUTE, RIGHT?
CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.
9:36:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:36:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE LAST THING, WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF

DIFFERENT AREAS THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN HISTORY ABOUT.
ONE IS CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING.
YOU ARE LIKE THE LOCAL EXPERT ON CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING.
YOU HAVE WRITTEN HISTORIES ABOUT THAT AND PLEASE CONTINUE
BECAUSE IT IS REALLY INTERESTING THE TIES TO TAMPA.
9:37:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME TO THINK OF IT, I HAVE A BOX OF
PAUL GUZZO ARTICLES.
I'M A FAN.
I LOVE YOUR WRITING.
ANYWAYS, THIS IS, AGAIN, A SMALL TOKEN OF APPRECIATION
BECAUSE YOU DESERVE A WHOLE LOT MORE.
9:37:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE ADAM SMITH WHO
IS HERE I'M SURE.
9:37:29AM >> I'M ADAM SMITH, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, FORMER COLLEAGUE
OF PAUL'S.
IT'S GREAT THAT YOU ARE HONORING HIM BECAUSE HE DOES
PHENOMENAL WORK.
WE MISS HIM A TON IN THE COMMUNITY AS A JOURNALIST.
I CALL HIM GRAVEYARD GUZZO.
HE WAS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH.
9:37:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. SHELBY, IF YOU COULD READ THE RULES.

WE'LL START WITH MICHAEL RANDOLPH WHO IS OUR SOLE VIRTUAL
SPEAKER.
MR. SHELBY.
9:38:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
HERE TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR TODAY'S
MEETING OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON
THE ITEM.
THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO COMPLETE A SPEAKER CARD THAT IS
LOCATED OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS, PLACE IT IN THE BOX AND THEN
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS YOUR NAME WILL BE CALLED BY THE CHAIR TO
COME UP AND A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL
SPEAKERS PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE PLEASE REMINDED TO
REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR
THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES
OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER OR
ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY

COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS SET ON THE
AGENDA AS A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S NOTED AS A PUBLIC
HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK NOT AT
PUBLIC COMMENT BUT LATER WHEN IT IS HEARD ON THE AGENDA.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN LATER DURING STAFF REPORTS,
SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT STAFF REPORTS OR ITEMS ON
THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE TIME IS NOW DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
FINALLY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD
REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, AND
THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT
TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
THANK YOU.
9:40:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH IS OUR LONE REGISTERED SPEAKER AND THEN
TO THE IN-PERSON.
YES, MR. RANDOLPH.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.

9:40:13AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING DO NOT FORGET ABOUT ZION
CEMETERY.
TODAY I'M HERE TO DISCUSS A PRESSING ISSUE FACING OUR
POCKETS.
WHAT HAS COME TO BE KNOWN AS THE SAFETY NET CRISIS.
LAST NIGHT, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF POSTING -- HOSTING THE --
PROJECT DESIGN FOR NONPROFIT AND SOCIAL ENTERPRISE WORKSHOP,
WHICH BROUGHT TOGETHER REPRESENTATIVES FROM OVER 35 CITIES.
ATTENDEES RANGE FROM COMMUNITY ADVOCATES TO SEASONED
PROFESSIONALS AND DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES HIGHLIGHTED COMMON
CHALLENGES.
THERE MAY BE CONCERN BROUGHT UP GOING INTO DISCUSSION WAS
THE REDUCTION IN FUNDING AND UNCERTAINTY.
AS YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL BUDGET HAS CUT SIGNIFICANT IMPACT
IN EXISTING.
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.
THE CHALLENGE IS SEVERE FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN NONPROFITS
WHICH PLACE SYSTEMIC EQUALITY AND FUNDING. TO ADDRESS THE
CHALLENGES, NONPROFITS MUST DEPLOY STRATEGIES IN -- FUNDS
BUILDING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS AND FOSTERING PARTNERSHIPS
MOVING FORWARD.
THE SAME WORKSHOP WILL BE DELIVERED TO NONPROFITS IN WEST
TAMPA AND WILL FOCUS STRUGGLING WITH ORGANIZATIONS WITH THE

SKILLS AND STRATEGIES NEEDED TO WEATHER THESE CHALLENGES AND
BUILD ADAPTABILITY.
WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FOR PROFIT SECTOR.
AS YOU KNOW, OUR WORKSHOPS COMING UP INCLUDE UNDERSTANDING
INVESTORS, LENDERS, CREATING A BUSINESS PLAN, SALES, AND
MARKETING 101, OF COURSE, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND
HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.
IF YOU ARE A NONPROFIT OR FOR PROFIT IN WEST TAMPA, WE HEAR
YOU AND WE'RE COMING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:42:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RANDOLPH.
WE'LL NOW GO TO THE IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. MICHELINI.
MS. AILEEN HENDERSON.
SHE MAY HAVE STEPPED OUT.
MR. MICHELINI, MS. HENDERSON AND MARTY GREENE.
9:42:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
STEVE MICHELINI HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 70.
THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THE SOHO
BUSINESS ALLIANCE SUPPORTS AND DOESN'T SUPPORT REGARDING THE
STORMWATER PROJECT BEING PROPOSED FOR SOUTH HOWARD.
IT WILL NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS
OR DISRUPTS THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN ANY WAY.
WE HAVE PROPOSED AN ALTERNATE ROUTE WHICH INCLUDES GOING
DOWN AND USING CITY OF RIGHT-OF-WAY AND CSX RIGHT-OF-WAY.

WHICH SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED THOROUGHLY BEFORE ANY DECISIONS
ARE MADE REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY WITHOUT
INVESTIGATING AND LOOKING AT SOME ADDITIONAL ALTERNATIVES,
INCLUDING THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK THAT EXISTS ALONG
SWANN AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WHICH IS A VERY LARGE TRACT
OF LAND.
WE RECOMMEND IT BE LOOKED AT FOR POTENTIAL UNDERGROUND
STORMWATER RETENTION BEFORE ANY OF THE WATER IS TRANSFERRED
DOWN THE OTHER ROUTES.
SOUTH HOWARD IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF THAT BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
DISRUPTING IT, DESTROYING THAT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY.
ALSO, IT WOULD BE EQUALLY DEVASTATING FOR THOSE NEIGHBORS,
EITHER PARKLAND ESTATES OR NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL TO BE
DISRUPTED.
THERE ARE ALTERNATE ROUTES.
WE URGE THE CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT THEM VERY CAREFULLY.
I HAVE A PREPARED STATEMENT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A
COPY.
9:44:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY.
9:44:34AM >> IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS BEING
PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
WE'VE ASKED THAT THEY JOIN TOGETHER WITH THE BUSINESS
ALLIANCE, INCLUDING PARKLAND AND NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL AND

EXAMINING ALTERNATE ROUTES THAT DON'T DISTURB AND DISRUPT
EITHER OF THE THREE AREAS.
I WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION LATER.
THE CONTRACT CURRENTLY CALLS FOR KIMMINS TO LOOK AT BRISTOL
TO HOWARD, MORRIS TO HOWARD AND SWANN TO HOWARD.
I ALSO WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT THAT
CONTRACT AND URGING THE ADMINISTRATION TO REVISE IT TO
INCLUDE OTHER ALTERNATE ROUTES.
I UNDERSTAND FROM ARE THE MEMORANDUM CITY STAFF SAID THEY
ARE LOOKING AT IT.
HOWEVER, THE CONTRACT IS NOT PROVIDING FOR THAT OTHER
OPTION.
ANYWAY, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THIS IS AN EXTREMELY LARGE PROJECT.
IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR ALL OF THOSE INVOLVED.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ALTERNATIVE THAT DOES NOT
DISRUPT THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR THE BUSINESSES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AILEEN HENDERSON, MARTY GREENE, REVA.
AND MENTESNOT.
9:45:46AM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
AILEEN HENDERSON.
I'M HERE FOR PAUL GUZZO.

TODAY IS A HAPPY DAY.
IT IS WONDERFUL WHEN WE SEE PEOPLE LIKE PAUL GUZZO
CELEBRATED.
WE DON'T SEE ENOUGH OF IT.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I MAKE A
POINT TO THANK ALL OF YOU PERSONALLY FOR LOOKING OUT FOR
PAUL AND MAKING SURE HE IS RECOGNIZED.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, WHEN I STARTED THE CEMETERY SOCIETY, I
REMEMBER MY FIRST MEETING WITH PAUL.
HE WAS VERY INTENSE AND WAS VERY, LET'S JUST GET TO THE
TRUTH AND CUT TO THE CHASE KIND OF PERSON, WHICH IS VERY
MUCH HOW I AM.
I COULD DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT HE DID AN AWESOME JOB.
WHAT I'VE ALWAYS SAID ABOUT THE WORK THAT THE CEMETERY
SOCIETY DOES IS WE ARE NOT WITHOUT THOSE JOURNALISTS AND THE
MEDIA.
WE REALLY ARE NOTHING.
NOT EVEN SOCIAL MEDIA CAN TOUCH WHAT JOURNALISTS IN THE
MEDIA CAN DO FOR US.
WHAT PAUL GUZZO HAS DONE FOR TAMPA'S HISTORIC CEMETERIES
DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE APPLAUDED.
I'M SAD HE'S NOT A JOURNALIST ANYMORE BECAUSE I WOULD RELY
ON HIM WHEN WE HAD STORIES TO GET OUT THERE.
HE'S BEEN DOING WONDERFUL WORK WITH USF.

I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE STUFF HE'S DONE OVER THERE.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
TODAY IS A GOOD DAY AND I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
YOU.
THANK YOU.
9:47:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
MARTY GREENE, REVA, MENTESNOT.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:47:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MARTY GREENE.
I WORK FOR THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, TRANSPORTATION.
I HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW YOU.
THIS IS IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT WE PAVED.
THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS LOST A TACK CONTRACT.
THIS IS WATER BASED TACK.
IT'S MESSING UP ALL THE BUBBLES IN THE STREET.
IT'S MESSING UP EVERYTHING IN SOUTH TAMPA.
WE BROUGHT IT TO THE SUPERVISOR'S ATTENTION, MICHAEL BROWN
AND VIK BHIDE.
WE'RE DEALING WITH RACISM.
I WENT TO VIK BHIDE IN SEPTEMBER AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM
ABOUT THE SITUATION WHICH SUPERVISORS CALLING EMPLOYEES
MONKEYS.
NOTHING WAS DONE TO THEM.
WE WENT TO HR, NOTHING WAS DONE.

I SPOKE TO HR ABOUT OTHER SITUATIONS ABOUT HOW RETALIATION,
HOW I'M BEING TREATED.
THEY DID NOTHING ABOUT IT.
THEY TOLD ME I NEED TO SHUT UP AND MIND MY BUSINESS.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH WE GET FIVE TONS OF
ASPHALT.
WE TOLD HIM WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT.
WE ONLY USE TWO TONS OF ASPHALT.
WE DUMPED THE REST ON 9th AVENUE AND ORANGE ROAD.
63rd AND BROADWAY AND 48th AND BROADWAY.
WE WERE DUMPING MIX.
FOR THE PEOPLE SPENDING THEIR MONEY, ME AS A TAXPAYER,
DUMPING ASPHALT AND DUMPING THE MIX IS NOT CALLED FOR.
WE TOLD THEM WE ARE NOT ABLE TO USE IT.
WE WERE TOLD IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE WOULD GET WRITTEN UP.
I KNOW AFTER I DO THIS, I MAY LOSE MY JOB AND GET FIRED.
THE CITY OF TAMPA MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IS BEING RUN LIKE A
DOG AND PONY SHOW UNDER A DICTATOR OF MICHAEL BROWN.
MICHAEL BROWN ASKED ME TO BORROW $10,000.
HR, REFUSED TO DO IT.
I WANT TO PROVE WHO I AM AS A MAN.
CAN I TAKE THE TEST.
THEY REFUSED TO DO IT.
EVERYTHING UNDER THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, THE MORALE OF THE
DEPARTMENT HAS GONE DOWN SINCE A BECOME CHIEF OPERATOR.

I TOLD HIM ABOUT, NO DISRESPECT TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
WE HAVE HAITIANS THAT WORK AT THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT UNDER
SUBCONTRACTOR.
I BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION ABOUT A D.O.T. STANDARDS.
YOU CANNOT TOUCH ANY OF THE MOT PRODUCT.
THEY TOLD ME, OH, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT.
WHEN I WENT AGAIN, THEY TOLD ME, OH, MIND YOUR BUSINESS.
WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT.
IT IS A $300,000 TEMP BUDGET.
MOBILITY DEPARTMENT NEED TO BE AUDITED.
AUDIT NEEDS TO GO ON.
RIGHT NOW, MACHINES BOUGHT THAT CITY COUNCIL DID NOT APPROVE
OF AND RIGHT NOW, SUPERVISORS ARE STEALING TIME FROM THE
CITY.
YOU'RE PUT IN POSITION, EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE
JOB, PUTTING THEM IN THAT POSITION.
RIGHT NOW, THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED INTO.
THANK YOU.
9:50:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REVA IMAN.
9:50:21AM >> I'M REVA IMAN, VICE-CHAIR OF THE ZION PRESBYTERIAN.
IT WAS COINCIDENT THAT I CHOOSE TODAY TO COME TO THIS
MEETING AND YOU ALL ARE PRAISING PAUL GUZZO.
ZION CEMETERY, THE STORY HE WROTE ON THE ZION CEMETERY AND
ALSO SOME OTHER CEMETERIES.
BUT TO HEAR YOU ALL PRAISE IT TODAY, PUT A DIFFERENT TO ME

MIND-WISE.
OVER FIVE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THINGS WITH ZION
CEMETERY AND IT'S YET TO HAVE BEEN DONE.
BUT I LISTENED TO YOU ALL TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE STORIES.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS OUT.
LET'S DO A STORY WITH YOU ALL.
LET'S LET YOU MAKE HISTORY TOO.
LET'S MAKE ZION HISTORY.
LET'S SEE WHAT THIS ADMINISTRATION TODAY COULD FULFILL WHAT
WE NEED DONE FOR ZION THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET.
WE HAVE BEEN SITTING BACK WAITING FOR THE CITY TO MAKE SOME
THINGS HAPPEN.
AND IT'S YET TO BE DONE TODAY.
I ASK OF YOU TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO
HAS BEEN DEALING WITH ZION AND CITY OFFICIALS WHO HAVE BEEN
TALKING AMONG THEMSELVES TO BE A PART, TO SEE SOME OF OUR
BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M THE VICE-CHAIR.
FRED HEARNS IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NONPROFIT.
WE ASK TO HAVE A MEETING WITH YOU ALL.
LET'S SEE WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
HISTORY IS IN THE MAKING.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR.
THANK YOU ALL FOR HOW YOU PRAISED PAUL.

THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO FOR PAUL, MYSELF, THOSE
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LAYING THERE RESTING IS TO BRING SOME
PEACE.
IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THE FUNDING TO DO
IT BECAUSE OF THREE PARCELS, THREE DIFFERENT OWNERS THAT WE
HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU ALL TO GIVE THEM SOME LAND SO WE
CAN GET SOME FUNDING.
WE CANNOT GET FUNDING -- WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD.
IT'S BEEN OVER FIVE YEARS.
THERE IS ANOTHER ASK.
IF YOU COULD GIVE US $15 MILLION, GUESS WHAT, WE DON'T HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT THE THREE OWNERS.
YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR BUDGET TO GIVE US.
THERE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO DO TO EDUCATE THE CITY, STUDENTS
HERE, FAMILIES, IT'S FOR EVERYONE.
HISTORY IS IN THE MAKING, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS DONE
FAST.
MS. HENDERSON, PLEASE, AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE, WE
WOULD LIKE TO SET THAT UP WITH THE ATTORNEY DEALING WITH THE
TWO OTHER OWNERS, YOURSELF AND WHOEVER CITY OFFICIALS.
LET'S SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
THANK YOU.
9:53:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PLEASE ADDRESS THE COUNCIL BODY AS A WHOLE, JUST FOR ANYBODY
SPEAKING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
9:53:17AM >> THANK YOU.
I'M SORRY.
9:53:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MENTESNOT, YVONNE FERRELLI.
9:53:26AM >> MENTESNOT, UHURU.
TAMPA, FLORIDA.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
FREEDOM.
FOR 825 YEARS WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT FREEDOM.
NO SELF-DETERMINATION, NO INDEPENDENCE, NO ANY OF THOSE
THINGS, NO LIBERTY, NO JUSTICE.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT.
YOU SAY YOU'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE
OR WANT THEM TO COLLECTIVELY GET ON THE PHONE AND CALL THE
CHIEF JUDGE AND TELL THEM CHILD SUPPORT IS ILLEGAL AND
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
IT IS THE FOURTH BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
IT IS A BIG GENOCIDE PROGRAM.
IT IS AN ETHNIC CLEANSING PROGRAM AND IT IS A SLOW NEGRO
GENOCIDE PROGRAM.
IT HAS ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE GREAT REPLACEMENT
THEORY.
IT HAVE ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS OF EUGENICS PROGRAM, AND IT
HAS SOME NASTY HEARING OFFICERS OVER THERE.

ARABELLA CAMPBELL, CHARLES DENTON, SABRINA FRYE, KU KLUX
KLAN, DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY, GOING ON A FEW BLOCKS
FROM HERE.
AS NASTY AS EVER.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THEY SUSPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF AFRICAN PEOPLE'S DRIVER'S LICENSES.
TENS OF THOUSANDS DRIVER'S LICENSES.
SUSPEND MY DRIVER'S LICENSE BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD TO SEND A
CHECK TO MY CHILD SO YOU SUSPEND MY DRIVER'S LICENSE.
YOU PUT ME IN DEBTOR PRISON THAT WHITE PEOPLE SAY ILLEGAL
SINCE THE 1200s AND THE U.S. LAW SAID WAS ILLEGAL SINCE
1833 AND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION SAYS ILLEGAL.
BUT THEY STILL PUTTING BLACK PEOPLE IN PRISON FOR DEBT,
CALLING IT CIVIL CONTEMPT OF COURT.
YEAH, ALL KIND OF TRICKS.
THIS CITY COUNCIL NEED TO ON THAT.
IT'S RUINING MANY AFRICAN PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT THEY CAN'T
EVEN RECOVER.
YOU CAN'T RECOVER FROM IT.
AND THEY HAVE A BIG TRICK DOWN THERE.
SO MANY BLACK MEN WALKING AROUND THE HOOD, 40, 50, 60, 70,
80, 100, 150 THOUSAND DOLLARS BACK CHILD SUPPORT.
WHERE IS THAT TAKING PLACE?
HOW IS THAT GOING TO GET PAID?
RUINING AFRICAN PEOPLE'S LIVES.

RUIN AFRICAN FAMILIES' LIVES.
I WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOVE AND DO SOMETHING
ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT.
TIME TO HAVE A MORATORIUM ON CHILD SUPPORT.
IT'S HURTING TOO MANY AFRICAN PEOPLE.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
THANK YOU.
9:56:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YVONNE FERRELLI, MARILYN SAMAHA, AND ELLSWORTH WILLIAMS.
9:56:26AM >> YVONNE FERRELLI ON BEHALF OF PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAD UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO
SUPPORT BYPASSING PARKLAND ESTATES AND THE SOUTH HOWARD
FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT, RESOLUTION CM 24-6831.
RECENTLY, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE STORMWATER MANAGER
AND SHE HAD SAID THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECTS WOULD BE HEADING
DOWN THE THREE PROPOSED PROJECTS IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
TWO DOWN LAKEVIEW AVENUE AND ONE SWANN TO HOWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WHEN
YOU UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO KEEP PARKLAND ESTATES FREE OF BOX
CULVERTS, THE SIZE OF THE BOX CULVERT WAS 10 BY 5.
THIS PROJECT HAS ELEVATED AND PROGRESSED TO A BOX CULVERT
PROPOSED TO BE 10 BY 12.
IN ORDER FOR MR. ZEMINA TO INSTALL SUCH A LARGE BOX, HE

WOULD NEED 36 FEET ACROSS THE STREET OF LAKEVIEW.
LAKEVIEW IS ONLY 21 FEET ACROSS.
9:57:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, WE CAN SEE IT.
9:57:58AM >> SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE 36 FEET OF WORK SPACE, HE
WOULD BE INTRUDING ON TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND DESTROYING
THAT TREE-LINED RIGHT-OF-WAY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
THE CONES ARE MARKED AT 36 FEET.
THE CURB IS 21 FEET AND THE TRENCH BOX FOR THIS BOX CULVERT
IS 20 FEET.
AND MR. ZEMINA ALSO SAYS HE NEEDS ANOTHER FOUR AND A HALF
FEET TO DIG THE HOLE.
SO THE HOLE WOULD BE ABOUT 25 FEET ACROSS.
THAT'S GONE BEYOND THE CURBS OF THE STREET.
AND IT WOULD BE GOING DOWN APPROXIMATELY 16 TO 23 FEET INTO
THE GROUND.
THE WATER TABLE IS AT 6 FEET.
HE WILL HAVE TO BE PUMPING OUT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF
GROUNDWATER THROUGH THE LENGTH OF LAKEVIEW TO INSTALL THESE
BOX CULVERTS.
I AGAIN WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AND ASK THEM FOR THE SUPPORT
TO KEEP THESE BOX CULVERTS OUT OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
THEY WERE TOO LARGE AT 10 BY 5, AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY TOO
LARGE AT 10 BY 12.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:59:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.

MARILYN SAMAHA.
YES, MA'AM.
GO AHEAD.
YES, MA'AM.
GO AHEAD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:59:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MARILYN SAMAHA.
I'M HERE AS VICE PRESIDENT OF PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
WE SENT YOU THIS LETTER ON APRIL 27.
WE ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH THE MAYOR ON MARCH THE 5th
WHICH BASICALLY STATES OUR POSITION HERE.
WE ARE THE SOLE PEOPLE OF PARKLAND ESTATES, THE OFFICIAL
COMMUNITY CIVIC CLUB.
YOU WILL HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE USING OUR NAMES IN A LOT OF
DIFFERENT WAYS.
ON BEHALF OF PARKLAND ESTATES, WE ARE WRITING YOU TO URGE
YOU TO CONTINUE SUPPORT AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE RESOLUTION
FILE CM 24-6831 WHICH IS RIGHT THERE, REGARDING THE PROPOSED
SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT ROUTES.
THIS RECEIVED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
SPECIFICALLY, THIS MOTION DIRECTS STAFF TO ELIMINATE THE USE
OF BRISTOL AVENUE FOR VAULTS AND TO BYPASS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
PARKLAND ESTATES BY UTILIZING COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS TO
RESERVE FLOODING ISSUE.

IT FURTHER STIPULATES REFUSAL TO FUND OR APPROVE THE PROJECT
OTHERWISE.
THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS A CLEAR RESPONSIBILITY TO ADHERE TO
THIS DIRECTIVE.
FORTUNATELY, VIABLE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS EXIST THAT WOULD
ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT WITHOUT IMPACTING THE
PARKLAND ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROPOSED ROUTE OUTLINED IN THE JMT PROPOSAL FOLLOWING
SWANN AVENUE TO HOWARD AVENUE AND THEN TO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD
ALIGNS WITH YOUR UNANIMOUS RESOLUTION OF CM 24-6831.
WE THE RESIDENTS OF PARKLAND ESTATES FIRMLY SUPPORT THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY PROPOSED ROUTE BYPASSING OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN CONTRAST, THE OTHER TWO JMT PROPOSAL ROUTES GO DOWN
LAKEVIEW AVENUE TO BRISTOL, LAKEVIEW AVENUE TO MORRISON, AND
WE SHOWED YOU THE DEVASTATION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN
THESE SMALL INTERIOR RESIDENTIAL ROADS.
ACCORDING TO JOHN ZEMINA, VP OF KIMMINS, THIS WOULD
NECESSITATE TRENCHES 36 FEET WIDE, WHICH REALLY ARE SIDEWALK
TO SIDEWALK WITH A LITTLE BIT IN.
GIVEN THAT LAKEWOOD AVENUE IS ONLY 21 FEET FROM CURB TO
CURB, ACHIEVING THIS WIDTH WOULD RESULT IN THE DESTRUCTION
OF NEARLY THE ENTIRE TREE-LINED RIGHT-OF-WAY ON BOTH SIDES
OF THE STREET, LEADING TO THE LOSS OF OVER 180 MATURE TREES.
THEREFORE, PARKLAND ESTATES UNEQUIVOCALLY SUPPORTS THE CITY

PROPOSED JMT ROUTE OF SWANN AVENUE, HOWARD AVENUE, BAYSHORE
BOULEVARD AS IT IS THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS.
WE REQUEST YOU ENFORCE YOUR UNANIMOUS RESOLUTION OF CM
24-6831, AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:02:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
MR. WILLIAMS.
REVEREND ASTUDILLO.
THOMAS SPAULDING.
BEFORE YOU SPEAK, SIR, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE BISHOP TOM
SCOTT IN THE AUDIENCE.
FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND CHAIR
OF BOTH, I BELIEVE.
HE IS HERE WITH US.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:03:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
ELLSWORTH WILLIAMS.
I GO BY TONY.
CEO AND PRESIDENT OF VETERANS COUNSELING VETERANS.
ONE TRICK PONY.
WHEN YOU SEE ME UP HERE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE VETERANS.
I'M HERE THERE TO MAKE SURE A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THE VETERAN
POPULATION IS NOT FORGOTTEN.

HONOR MY FELLOW VETERANS, BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON MEMORIAL
DAY.
SOME OF THESE BROTHERS DON'T GET THE SAME HONOR OR
RECOGNITION DURING MEMORIAL DAY.
WHO ARE THESE VETERANS?
THE VETERANS I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE VETERANS AND FIRST
RESPONDERS WHO DIE BY SUICIDE.
IN FACT, FLORIDA HAS OVER -- VETERANS OVER 65.
SUICIDE CONTINUES TO RISE.
YES, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, SUICIDE STILL CONTINUES IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
WE JUST LOST A HERO, RETIRED LIEUTENANT COLONEL.
HE WAS A SPECIAL OPERATOR.
ANYBODY IN THE MILITARY, WHEN WE SAY SPECIAL OPERATORS,
EXCUSE MY FRENCH, MEANS BADASS.
HE DIED BY SUICIDE.
LEFT BEHIND A SON AND A FAMILY.
I TOLD MYSELF HE WOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
VETERANS COUNSELING VETERANS SO WE MAKE SURE VETERANS AND
FAMILIES ARE NOT FORGOTTEN, WE HAVE A SPECIAL CEREMONY GOING
ON, OUR 11th ONE, FAMILIES OF VETERANS AND THEIR FRIENDS
AND RESPONDERS WHO DIE BY SUICIDE.
I ADDED FIRST RESPONDERS BECAUSE IT IS PERSONAL.
MY WIFE SERVED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR 25 YEARS.
WHENEVER A LAW ENFORCEMENT DIED BY SUICIDE, IT AFFECTS HER.

IF IT AFFECTS HER, IT AFFECTS ME.
THAT'S WHY I MADE SURE TO INCLUDE THEM IN THIS MEMORIAL.
I'M INVITING THE COUNCIL AS USUAL.
COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA HAS BEEN A GUEST SPEAKER MANY, MANY
TIMES.
I INVITE HIM AGAIN.
WE'RE BUSY DURING MEMORIAL.
WE HAD THIS PARTICULAR MEMORIAL BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A TIME
OF A SAFE SPACE.
OFTENTIMES, A SPECIAL OPERATOR GIVING HIS LIFE COUNTLESS
TIMES AND ASK HIS SON OR WIFE HOW DID HE DIE, IMAGINE WHAT
THEY HAVE TO SAY.
THERE IS THE STIGMA.
WE GIVE THEM A SAFE SPACE TO COME THERE, HONOR THE VETERAN.
THEY NEED THAT.
THEY WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
I'M ASKING YOU, THE COUNCIL, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY INVITED.
ON THE 24th OF MAY, 11:30 TO 12:30 AT AMERICAN LEGION POST
5, 3810 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
REVEREND ASTUDILLO AND MR. SPAULDING.
AFTER THAT, MR. BOBBY KRADEN.
10:05:52AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I COORDINATE CLIMATE AND JUSTICE FAITH PROGRAM AT A LUTHERAN
SEMINARY.

LAST NIGHT WE INVITED TWO PSYCHIATRISTS TO THE CLASS.
PEOPLE SHARE TRAUMA ABOUT RECENT HURRICANES, THE LOSS OF
NEIGHBORS, HOMES, TREE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THE PSYCHIATRIST RECOMMENDED TO HEAL FROM
TRAUMA WAS FIRST TO NAME WHAT WE'RE FEELING, BUILD RESILIENT
COMMUNITIES AND A CHANCE TO CHANGE HOPELESSNESS WITH ACTION.
SO HERE I AM.
I'M SADDENED AND DISGUSTED.
THERE IS A DESERT IN THE MAKING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
MOST OF US FEEL AS IF WE ARE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF
HURRICANE SEASON, THE SENSE OF THREAT, DESTRUCTION AND LOSS
CONTINUES.
WHAT CODE NOT UNEARTHED.
KEEP FALLING ON DEAF EARS.
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE TO GUIDE US?
WE ARE GREATLY DISTRESSED TO SEE THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA
YESTERDAY ISSUED A PERMIT TO A PRIVATE DEVELOPER TO REMOVE A
GRAND CAMPHOR IN THE CITY'S RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE ENTRANCE OF
ITS PARK.
MANY RESIDENTS SENT PETITIONS TO THE CITY TO PREVENT THAT
THIS HEALTHY AND NON-HAZARDOUS TREES BE CUT DOWN, INCLUDING
THIS GRAND CAMPHOR WITHOUT RATIONALE BY THE DEVELOPER.
WE ASK, ONE, WHY WASN'T THIS GRAND TREE REMOVAL REQUEST
REFERRED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AS THE CITY CODE SAYS?
THE CITY'S WEBSITE OFFERS A DOCUMENT ENTITLED CHAPTER 13

CODE REVISIONS, WHAT IT STATES, IF TREE REMOVAL IS FOR A
TREE LOCATED IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT IS REFERRED TO THE
PARKS DEPARTMENT.
NOTHING IN ACCELA SHOWS THAT THE TREE REMOVAL REQUEST WAS
REFERRED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
TWO, WHY NO MITIGATION REQUIRED FOR THE GRAND CAMPHOR TREE
AS CODE SAYS?
ANOTHER CITY OF TAMPA SECTION OF THE CODE READS, THE CAMPHOR
TREE SHALL BE DEEMED PROTECTED FOR PURPOSES OF MITIGATION,
REPLACEMENT CALCULATION.
THERE IS NOTHING IN ACCELA THAT DOCUMENTS ANY MITIGATION WAS
CONSIDERED OR REQUIRED.
THREE, WILL THE PARK DEVELOPMENT INTERVENE TO STOP THE
REMOVAL OF THE TWO TREES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ENTRANCE OF THE
PARK?
BASED ON ARBORIST 2024 TREE SURVEY OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT,
DEVELOPMENT OR PERSONS UNKNOWN REMOVE WITH OR WITHOUT
PERMITS, INCLUDING TREES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY NEXT TO THE
PARK.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPER'S FIVE LOTS TODAY, WHAT YOU
SEE IS BARE LAND.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD.
HAS TO BE A LIMIT HOW MANY TREES THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CUT IN
PUBLIC LANDS.
TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

PLEASE HELP US PROTECT THE REMAINING TREES.
HELP NOT JUST DEVELOPERS BUT ALSO THE FRIENDS OF THE PARK.
10:08:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. SPAULDING, YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO USE YOUR THREE MINUTES?
GO AHEAD AND MR. BOBBY KRADEN AND RACIAL RECONCILIATION
COMMITTEE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMITTEE IS COMING UP ALL TOGETHER.
WE'LL ADDRESS THAT AT THAT TIME.
10:09:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THOMAS SPAULDING HERE TODAY AS A REPRESENTATIVE ALSO WITH
FRIENDS OF EPPS PARK.
FORMED BY HUNDREDS OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORS THAT SEEK
TO PROTECT THE PARK, RIVER AND NATURAL RESOURCES IN RESPONSE
TO THE TRAUMA THAT WE ALL EXPERIENCED DURING THOSE STORMS IN
2024 AND BECAUSE OF THIS DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL FOR MULTI-LOT
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND ROAD IN EPPS ADJACENT FLOODPLAIN.
I'M BACK HERE TODAY REPRESENTING FRIENDS OF EPPS PARK
BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER IS SAVVY.
HE KNOWS HOW TO REMOVE HIMSELF FROM THE LEGITIMATE AUTHORITY
OF THIS BODY TO HAVE NO SCRUTINY, NO PUBLIC INPUT INTO A
MULTI-LOT DEVELOPMENT.
HE'S GOING IN ONE LOT AT A TIME.
THE FIRST TWO LOTS HAVE HIT THE PERMIT PROCESS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SPEAK TO, BECAUSE IT SPEAKS TO

THIS ORDINANCE ABOUT FILL.
OUR TECHNICAL COMMITTEE OF FRIENDS OF EPPS PARK HAS
VOLUNTEERED ENGINEERS WITH MORE THAN 60 YEARS OF COMBINED
EXPERIENCE.
WE'VE REVIEWED THE PLANS.
IT SHOWS A CEMENT WALL CONSTRUCTED IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND
SIGNIFICANT VOLUMES OF FILL BEING BROUGHT IN TO PUT BEHIND
THAT WALL IN THE FLOODPLAIN, AE 12, BELOW THE BASE FLOOD
ELEVATION LEVEL OF 12 FEET.
THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS PASSED THESE ORDINANCES CALLED FLOOD
RESISTANT DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY FROM
FLOODING.
SPECIFICALLY, SECTION 5, 12122 ADDRESSES THE USE OF FILL IN
THE FLOODPLAIN.
IT SAYS, FILL IS NOT ALLOWED WITHOUT COMPENSATORY EXCAVATION
UNLESS PROPER ENGINEERING STUDY SHOWING NO ADVERSE EFFECTS.
NO FILL IN THE FLOODPLAIN UNLESS YOU COMPENSATE WITH TAKING
FILL OUT.
THIS BRINGS ME TO OUR REQUEST FOR ALL OF YOU, WHICH IS,
WE'VE BEEN ASKING THE CITY STAFF AND DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
MANAGEMENT IF AND WHEN THEY WILL APPLY THIS CODE TO THESE
PERMITS.
WE'VE BEEN TOLD OR MISLEADING STATEMENTS AND THERE ARE THREE
THINGS I WANT TO RAISE.
I'M ASKING FOR CITY COUNCIL TO INTERVENE AND SPEAK WITH THEM

THEMSELVES AND CLARIFY IF AND WHEN THIS CODE WILL BE
APPLIED.
FIRST, WE'RE NOT GETTING DIRECT ANSWERS.
WE'VE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR THAT INFORMATION.
THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED DIRECT ANSWER TO OUR QUESTION.
THE SECOND REASON WE'RE ALERTING YOU TO THIS IS ON ITS FACE,
IT APPEARS THE CITY MAY NOT BE FOLLOWING ITS OWN CODE.
WE FOUND OUT IT'S NOT JUST THIS PROJECT BUT MULTIPLE PROJECT
WHERE FILL IS BEING ALLOWED WITHOUT ANY KIND OF EXCAVATION
TO COMPENSATE IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
10:11:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU STILL HAVE 30 SECONDS.
10:11:41AM >> THANK YOU.
THE THIRD REASON I'M IN FRONT OF YOU, FEMA ENCOURAGES THIS
BECAUSE THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY.
OUR DISCOUNTS IN THE FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM RELY ON US
COMPLYING WITH OUR OWN CODE AROUND FLOOD RESISTANT
DEVELOPMENT.
WE GET A 5% BUMP IN DISCOUNTS IF WE COMPLY.
EACH TIME WE LOSE A -- EACH TIME WE DON'T COMPLY AND GO
BELOW THRESHOLD, WE LOSE $2.2 MILLION IN PREMIUM DISCOUNTS
FOR CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE YOUR INTERVENTION ON THIS.
10:12:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. BOBBY KRADEN AND THEN THE RACIAL
RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
ROBIN LOCKETT AND STEPHANIE POYNOR.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:12:27AM >> BOBBY KRADEN.
YOU ALL HAVE AN UNENVIABLE JOB.
YOU HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THE CITY FROM STORMWATER, FLOOD
RELIEF, TRANSPORTATION, THINGS THAT DIRECTLY AFFECT THE
SAFETY AND RESILIENCY OF THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY.
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO DIVE INTO SMALLER ISSUES THAT ARE FULL
OF MINUTIA, SUCH AS NOISE ORDINANCES OR THE SIZE OF DIGITAL
SIGNS.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO ONE OF THOSE
ISSUES, ONE OF THE MINUTIA ISSUES.
IT'S ONE I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE, WHICH IS HOW
THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANAGE VACANT SPACES TO FIND A
BETTER BALANCE BETWEEN PROPERTY RIGHTS AND RESPECTING
PEOPLE'S SPACE WHILE ALSO ACHIEVING EQUITABLE OUTCOMES FOR
VULNERABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS.
I FIGURED I WOULD PUT IT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.
I CREATED A WEBSITE WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE LOOKED
AT FROM VARIOUS SOURCES.
I TYPED EVERY WORD OF WHAT'S WRITTEN THERE.

THERE IS AN E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO
LEARN MORE.
SOME OF THE THINGS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO ARE FAIRLY COMMON
SENSE, I WOULD SAY.
DO WE HAVE CAPABLE DATA MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE A STRATEGIC APPROACH TO THIS PROBLEM FOR PROPERTY
OWNERS WITH HISTORIC STRUCTURES ALMOST DISINTEGRATING.
IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE A TIMELINE OR STEPWISE PROCESS WHERE
THEY ARE NOT SLAMMED WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT ALL THE TIME?
ARE THERE ALTERNATIVE BOARDING MATERIALS THAT ALLOW GREATER
VISIBILITY INTO STRUCTURES FOR INSPECTION?
ARE THE HARDSHIP ALLOWANCE CRITERIA ACTUALLY HELPING PEOPLE
THAT ARE IN NEED?
THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.
I'LL CUT IT SHORT.
THE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TODAY IS THE CITY IS IN AN
ECOSYSTEM FULL OF RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM.
THERE IS THE FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT AT USF.
THEY PARTNER WITH THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CODE
ENFORCEMENT.
THERE ARE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT OFFER TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE AND EXPERTISE ON THIS ISSUE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT ALREADY LOOKS AT.
THEY ARE CONTINUALLY CONSIDERING AND EVALUATING BEST
PRACTICES OF SIMILAR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT FLORIDA.

THIS IS FROM THEIR REPORT IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR.
MAYBE A FIRST STEP SINCE WE CAN KIND OF EXPLORE THIS AT A
LOW LEVEL.
IT MIGHT BE COULD WE GET A WRITTEN REPORT ABOUT WHAT ARE
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED AS BEST
PRACTICES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT?
WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?
THINGS THEY ARE LOOKING AT?
ARE WE BEING STRATEGIC ABOUT THE VARIOUS ISSUES THAT THE
DEPARTMENT CONFRONTS AND JUST GO FROM THERE WITH A WRITTEN
REPORT.
IT MIGHT BE AN EASY WAY TO WALK OURSELVES INTO PROGRESS ON
THIS ISSUE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
NEXT UP, WE'LL HAVE THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
IS THERE A MAIN SPEAKER FOR THE GROUP?
I WANT TO WELCOME, FIRST THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR BEING HERE,
ESPECIALLY MY FRIEND, DR. JEFFREY JOHNSON WHO IS MY
APPOINTEE TO THE BOARD.
ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:15:41AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CHRISTOPHER HARRIS.

AS YOU CAN SEE I HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE HERE WITH ME,
SOME THAT ARE NOT HERE THIS MORNING.
I'LL READ A PREPARED STATEMENT, IF I MAY.
TIME IS A NON-RENEWABLE RESOURCE.
ONCE IT IS SPENT, CAN'T GET IT BACK.
2023, GROUP OF COMMUNITY AND ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERS WERE
DESIGNATED TO SERVE AS MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S RACIAL
RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
THE VISION, AGENDA, AND WORK FOR THIS COMMITTEE SEEMED
EXCITING AND EMPOWERING AND MANY SELECTED FOR THE COMMITTEE
AS WELL AS MANY ONLOOKERS EAGER TO NOT ONLY GET THE
COMMITTEE TO WORK AND GET STARTED BUT TO SEE THE RESULTS OF
THAT WORK.
EVERY MEMBER OF THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL AND MANY MEMBERS OF
THE CITY STAFF WERE EXCITED TO SEE THIS TRAIN MOVING
FORWARD.
TO BE FRANK, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE TO MAKE OF WHAT THE
MAYOR'S RESPONSE OR EXCITEMENT WAS TO THE COMMITTEE.
WHILE ACKNOWLEDGING THE REALITY, WE WILL NOT GO INTO DETAIL
ON THE NUMBER OF MATTERS, DISCUSSIONS, RESOLUTIONS,
COMMITTEES, PROMISES CHANNELED THROUGH THE CITY REGARDING
THE ADVANCEMENT OF ISSUES THAT DIRECTLY PERTAIN TO THE
CITY'S AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
HISTORY HAS RECORDED THE REALITIES AND CURRENT DYNAMIC HAS
REVEALED THE FRUIT FROM THOSE ACTIONS AND SOMETIMES

INACTION.
THIS EDITORIAL IS TO SPECIFICALLY SPEAK TO THE LACK OF
ENGAGEMENT, RESPONSIVENESS AND COMMITMENT TO THE WORK OF
THIS COMMITTEE BY THE CITY'S MAYOR, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND
STAFF, THIS COMMITTEE IS REAPING THE HARVEST FROM A DIVIDED
CITY LEADERSHIP.
IT IS NOT A STRETCH FOR ANY OBSERVER OF THE ACTIVITY OF BOTH
THE EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BRANCHES OF OUR CITY
GOVERNMENT TO NOTICE QUICKLY THAT WHILE THEY ARE CORDIAL
WITH ONE ANOTHER, THEY ARE NOT COLLABORATIVE NOR ARE THEY
PROACTIVELY INNOVATIVE IN MOVING CERTAIN ISSUES
PROGRESSIVELY FORWARD.
THEIR ACTIVITY IS MORE LIKE TEENAGE SIBLINGS WHO ARE
ENMESHED IN THE BLAME GAME WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG.
IN NO WAY ARE WE SUGGESTING THAT OUR COMMITTEE OR THE
PARENTS ATTEMPTING TO CHECK THE EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE
BRANCHES.
WE ARE, HOWEVER, THE VISITING COUSIN SITTING IN THE FAMILY
ROOM WATCHING THE TWO ARGUE OVER WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EAT AND
WHO WILL EAT FIRST.
IT IS DISHEARTENING TO DEDICATE ENERGY, TALENT, EXPERTISE
AND TIME TO A PROJECT TO NOT HAVE WHAT YOU NEED TO BE
SUCCESSFUL.
TO DATE, WE HAVE ASKED THE MAYOR'S STAFF ON NUMEROUS
OCCASIONS FOR A COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT THAT WOULD INCLUDE

DATA, GAPS IN THE DATA, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, DEPARTMENTAL
LEADS, A SITUATIONAL ANALYSIS AND PROGRESS REPORT OF THE
MAYOR'S AGENDA ON THE ISSUES SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THIS
COMMITTEE TO HELP DRIVE OUR DISCUSSIONS AND ULTIMATELY OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY ON HOW TO AMICABLY MOVE FORWARD
ON CERTAIN ISSUES.
THERE HAS BEEN STATIC ON THE PHONE LINE.
ALL OF THIS WOULD BE A BASIC PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD ALLOW
THIS COMMITTEE TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO ALLOW US TO MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD BE WELL-ROUNDED, TESTED AND WISE.
WHILE WE HAVE -- ON THE EMPHASIS OF NOT WASTING TIME, ALSO
SHOULD BE NOTED THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE BUDGET DEDICATED TO
THIS COMMITTEE'S WORK AND WE WANT TO ALSO NOTE WE SHOULD ALL
BE WANTING TO WORK TO BE GREAT STEWARDS OVER THE CITY'S
ECONOMIC RESOURCES AND HUMAN RESOURCES.
WHY SHARING THIS PUBLICLY?
SIMPLY PUT, WE ARE SHARING THIS LACK OF RESPONSE PUBLICLY
BECAUSE WE BELIEVE WE MUST BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CITY, TO
THE CITIZENS THAT WE REPRESENT AND TO ANSWER FOR THE
INFLUENCE THAT WE'VE BEEN AFFORDED.
SECONDLY IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE ARE CONCERNED LEADERS
WHO ARE WILLINGLY VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME TO PARTNER WITH
THE CITY TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS AND TO DO SO, THE CITY HAS NOT
BEEN AS RESPONSIVE AS NEEDED.
FINAL EDITING OF THE EDITORIAL, SHOULD BE NOTED THE MAYOR'S

CHIEF OF STAFF INITIATED A CONVERSATION.
WE'LL SEE WHERE IT LANDS THIS COMMITTEE.
ALSO TAKE A MOMENT NOW AND WELCOME ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY TO OUR LAST TWO MEETINGS AND TO BE IN THE ROOM AS
WE FINALIZE OUR FORMAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE
DELIVERED TO BOTH THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION AND TO THE CITY
COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
10:19:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE HAVE A COPY OF THE EDITORIAL.
IT WAS PASSED OUT TO ALL OF US.
WE HAVE THE COMPLETE STATEMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
MS. ROBIN LOCKETT, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK?
YOU ARE SIGNED UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:19:31AM >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
JUST TO REITERATE REGARDING THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION
COMMITTEE, WE DIDN'T JOIN THIS COMMITTEE FOR IT TO FAIL.
WE JOINED THIS COMMITTEE AND WE AGREED TO BE ON THIS
COMMITTEE TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF HOW THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS HANDLED THE
BLACK COMMUNITY AS NOTED BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE RESOLUTION.

SO WE NEED PARTNERSHIP, THAT'S WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, YOU
GUYS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY.
BUT WE NEED PARTNERSHIP.
THERE IS A BUDGET THAT'S OUTLINED THAT I THINK PERSONALLY
THAT WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL MEETING BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE
TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT WITH LESS RESOURCES.
BUT I THANK YOU GUYS FOR HEARING US TODAY.
WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, JOINED THIS COMMITTEE NOT TO FAIL BUT
TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES OR DO SOMETHING
ABOUT ZION CEMETERY ALSO.
10:20:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR, JOSE VASQUEZ AND LAST SPEAKER IS
KELLA McCASKILL.
10:20:48AM >> TODAY IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
TODAY IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE WHY I LIKE TO GO TOWARDS THE
END BECAUSE THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA HAVE A LOT TO SAY AND
SOMETIMES I REALLY WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT.
IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, I SAID BEFORE THE RACIAL
RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE WAS SET UP, YOU NEEDED TO MAKE SURE
THEY HAD A CARETAKER.
IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THEY DIDN'T GET ONE OR AT LEAST ONE
DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.
I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT, WE AS THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, THE

ONLY OTHER COMMITTEE YOU GUYS HAVE INDEPENDENT OF THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE, WE STRUGGLED FOR A LONG TIME AND WE HAD SOME
PROBLEMS GETTING OUR FEET ON THE GROUND AND WE'RE GLAD TO
HAVE SUPPORT NOW.
YOU CAN'T LET THAT GO.
I WANT TO SAY THIS.
WE'VE GOT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN PROCESS.
WE'VE GOT THE COMP PLAN IN PROCESS.
I DON'T WANT YOU ALL TO GIVE AWAY A LICK OF YOUR POWER.
YOU MAKE LAND DEVELOPMENT CHANGES.
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
DON'T GIVE IT AWAY.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THE OVEN RIGHT NOW THAT WHEN
THEY COME OUT, THEY ARE, I MEAN, THERE ARE SERIOUS ETHICAL
ISSUES GOING ON AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE TAKEN CARE
OF.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT CAMPHOR TREES ARE NOT
PROTECTED TREES.
THE DEVELOPER THEY ARE SPEAKING ABOUT IS NOT DEVELOPING A
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
HE IS BUILDING WHAT HE HAS THE RIGHTS TO BUILD UNDER OUR
CODE.
HE IS BUILDING WITHIN HIS RIGHTS AS A PROPERTY OWNER AND
LANDOWNER.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE MOVING PAST THAT AND BRINGING IT BEFORE

COUNCIL AND IT'S NOT A COUNCIL ISSUE.
IT'S A YOU CAN BUILD WHAT YOU NEED TO BUILD FOR YOUR
CHILDREN.
THE HOUSES ARE FOR HIS CHILDREN.
IT'S NOT A DEVELOPMENT.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IS STRAIGHT.
I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THERE ARE THINGS COMING UP
IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT I DO NOT LIKE.
THIS, IF YOU READ ALL OF THE STUFF ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN, THE CHHA, THERE ARE FIVE, SIX, TEN, WHATEVER, THINGS
IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT ALL SAY THE SAME THING.
THE RIVER IS FLOWING THIS WAY.
7.1.4, ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO PUT MORE DENSITY IN THE CHHA
IF THEY DO THIS.
WELL, IF YOU READ THE REST OF IT, THIS PERSON IS SWIMMING
UPSTREAM.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE ECONOMIC ENGINES IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
ONE OF OUR THREE LARGEST IS MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
THEY EMPLOY JUST AS MANY PEOPLE AS THE PORT DOES.
THEY EMPLOY JUST AS MANY PEOPLE AS THE PORT DOES.
BUT THEY ARE AT THE END OF A DEAD END.
THE PORT, YOU CAN GET THERE FROM ALL SIDES.
IT SAYS -- OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS TO SUPPORT AND
STRENGTHEN MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND REQUIRING SURROUNDING

DEVELOPMENT TO BE COMPATIBLE AS IT'S RELATED.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE
THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE WHEN DOING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
CHANGES.
10:24:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSE VASQUEZ.
KELLA McCASKILL IS OUR FINAL SPEAKER.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:24:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
JOSE VASQUEZ, RESIDENT OF 2222 NORTH 64th STREET.
THIS IS A CONTINUANCE OF THE PROBLEM I BRING TO THIS COUNCIL
SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
AGAIN, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY, AND
OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO COME IN TO DO THE JOB ON YOUR LAND.
I WANT TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION, MY NEIGHBOR, HE PLANTED THE
PALM TREES IN YOUR PROPERTY.
CODE ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO CLEAN THE AREA OF THE IMPROVED
ROAD.
BY LEGAL RIGHT.
IT'S NOT BEING CLEANED.
I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WHAT I HAVE TO DO FOR THE
LAST THREE DAYS, PUT ME IN THE HOSPITAL, CLEANING THE AREA.
NOW HE DECIDE TO CONTINUE PLANTING TREES.
BAMBOO TREES IN FRONT OF MY LEGAL ENTRANCE.
I HAVE TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THIS

GENTLEMAN -- HE'S PLANTING TREES OUTSIDE OF HIS PROPERTY
LOCATED ON 5819 EAST -- AVENUE TO MAKE HIM PROFIT.
BLOCKING THE IMPROVED ROAD OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MAKE A
PROFIT.
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
I TRY TO DO A LIVING.
I RENT A PROPERTY.
YOU BUY PART OF THE LAND IN 1973 FOR LEGAL ACCESS.
CALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO FIND OUT BECAUSE THE CITY OF
TAMPA OWNS 75 FEET WIDE BY 320 FEET DOWN, ALL THE WAY DOWN
TO THE RIVER.
YOU DECIDE THAT WILL BE 59th STREET AND MY RIGHT-OF-WAY
ACCESS TO MY BUSINESS.
HAVE TO BE HARASSED.
CALLED NAMES.
CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DEFEND MYSELF.
THIS IS THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT, TO STOP ME, TO TRY TO DO THE
RIGHT THING TO HELP THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
THE INSPECTOR OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE GENTLEMAN DO HIS JOB,
TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY AND REAL ESTATE NOT DO THEIR PART,
I'LL BE A VICTIM.
I LOST ONE TRUCK.
THAT WAS MY BREAD AND BUTTER TRUCK FOR OVER A YEAR NOW.
I CANNOT WORK.

PAY THE CITY OF TAMPA TAXES, BUT YOU GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY
TO PARK 25 CARS, I CANNOT DO IT.
I'M HERE AGAIN TODAY TO PLEASE TRY TO FIND OUT WHY THE
DEPARTMENTS CONTINUE TO DELAY OUR PROCESS, WHILE CONTINUING
-- THAT ROAD BELONGS TO YOU AND IS MY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:27:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
MS. McCASKILL, YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
GOOD MORNING.
10:27:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
KELLA McCASKILL, NATIVE HERE IN TAMPA.
THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE A RESET.
HAS TO BE.
REALLY NEEDS TO BE A RESET ON HOW THE ADMINISTRATION AND HOW
YOU AS A BODY DEAL WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR.
IT IS DOWN-RIGHT EMBARRASSING FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE YOU
PICK, YOU PUT THOSE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD FOR THE 568
RESOLUTION, MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE IT CONVENIENT FOR
THE ADMINISTRATION IS WHAT I BELIEVE.
NOW THEY ARE COMING DOWN HERE AND SAYING THEY ARE NOT
GETTING THE SUPPORT THEY NEED.
IT IS EMBARRASSING.
I SAID TO YOU PREVIOUSLY THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT
TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT.

WE ALREADY KNOW HISTORICALLY THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN
DOWN-RIGHT DISRESPECTFUL AS IT RELATES TO PEOPLE OF COLOR.
I'M THINKING ABOUT MADAM FORTUNE TAYLOR, HOW SHE HAD ACRES
OF REAL ESTATE IN ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT AREAS OF THE
CITY AND THE MAYOR TURNED DEVELOPER AFTER THEY TOOK IT FROM
HER.
ALL WE HAVE LEFT IS A BRIDGE THAT SOMEBODY HAD TO BEG TO PUT
HER NAME ON.
TAMPA PARK, WHEN THAT WOMAN SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF A CRA,
COULDN'T GET ONE CENT FROM THE CRA TO ASSIST THEM.
YET WHEN THE NEW DEVELOPER CAME ALONG AND I LIKED THAT
DEVELOPER.
WHEN THEY CAME ALONG, ALL KIND OF RESOURCES WERE OFFERED.
WAS HE ABLE TO DO IT BETTER THAN SHE WAS?
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT SHE COULD NOT RECEIVE ASSISTANCE FROM THE CRA THAT SHE
WAS SITTING IN.
GO ON TO NO SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN EAST TAMPA FOR OVER 21
YEARS.
MAY 17, 2004, CHANNELSIDE RECEIVED THEIR CRP AND SO DID EAST
TAMPA.
DO THEY LOOK ANYTHING ALIKE?
ANYTHING ALIKE?
THEY RECEIVED THEIR MARCHING ORDERS ON THE SAME DAY, SAME
MONTH.

LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE.
NONE OF YOU CAN BE THAT DUMB, DEAF OR BLIND TO SEE THERE'S
NOT AN ISSUE.
AND THEN THIS GROUP COMES FORWARD.
YOU PUT THEM THERE.
THEY ARE COMING UP HERE ALMOST DOWN RIGHT DEMANDING
RESOURCES.
WHAT'S SAT ABOUT IT, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS AT LEAST THREE
THINGS THEY COULD SHARE WITH THE GROUP THAT COULD BE
BENEFICIAL.
THE MAYOR STARTED BUSINESS NAVIGATOR ROLE TO HELP SMALL
BUSINESSES NAVIGATE THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA, GIVING THEM
SOME RESOURCES.
THE ROLE IS AMAZING.
THEY HAVE A GENIUS IN THE ROLE.
I DON'T SEE WHY THEY COULDN'T COME TO THIS GROUP AND SAY,
HEY, THIS IS HOW WE CAN HELP.
SHE HAS BERTHA OVER IN PROCUREMENT WHO CAN HELP PEOPLE GET
QUALIFIED TO RECEIVE CONTRACTS, ASSISTANCE, LEARN HOW TO
BECOME QUALIFIED SO THAT THESE SMALL BUSINESSES IN OUR
COMMUNITY CAN BENEFIT FROM SOME OF THE CONTRACTS.
SHE ALSO HAS BRIDGES TO BUSINESS, AND THE PEOPLE IN BRIDGES
TO BUSINESS ARE EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO INDIVIDUALS LIKE MYSELF
WHICH MEANS I WILL FALL IN THAT GROUP.
I SUGGEST A DIFFERENT ENGAGEMENT FROM YOU ALL AS IT RELATES

TO DEALING WITH US.
CHANGE THE MINDSET.
I SAW A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHEN THE MAYOR DID HER STATE OF THE
CITY AND SHE LAUNCHED FAIR OAKS AS THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT
INVESTMENT NOW IN EAST TAMPA.
WE WANT MORE THAN THAT.
WE NEED HOUSING.
YOU CLAP BEING A PARK WHEN YOUR KIDS HAVE NOWHERE TO LIVE IN
EAST TAMPA.
ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY DIFFERENTLY.
LISTEN TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND NOT JUST THE STAFF.
ENCOURAGE COMMUNICATION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO COME
FORWARD TO THE GROUP AND SHARE THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS.
10:30:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO BOARD AND ADMINISTRATION
APPOINTMENTS.
THESE ARE APPOINTMENTS TO A VARIETY OF BOARDS.
CAN WE MOVE THEM ALL AS A SELECTIVE GROUP?
10:30:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YEAH.
10:30:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GET A MOTION TO MOVE 8, 9, 10, 11.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.
MR. SHELBY, YOU'LL COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION?
10:30:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY 8, 9, 10, 11 ALL HAVE RESOLUTIONS
PREPARED.
NOW WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR YOU TO MOVE THE ITEM
THAT'S ON THE ADDENDUM BECAUSE IT ALSO PERTAINS TO THE EBOA
ACT.
10:30:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RATIFY EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY,
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK WITH A SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THIS IS ON THE ADDENDUM.
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU ARE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
10:31:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE ITEMS 12 THROUGH 18.
10:31:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ON 15, CORRECT?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:31:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I MOVE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS
COMMITTEE 19 THROUGH 24.
10:31:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:31:37AM >>BILL CARLSON:
POINT OF ORDER.
I AM GOING TO CHOOSE TO RECUSE MYSELF ON 26.
MY FIRM DOES NOT WORK WITH THIS ORGANIZATION AND PROBABLY
DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT IN AN ABUNDANCE
OF CAUTION, I'LL RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE WE WORK WITH THE
RELATED ORGANIZATION.
10:31:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE 25 AND THEN 27
THROUGH 32, IS THAT CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK?
10:31:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, I HAVEN'T MADE IT, BUT YES.
I MOVE ITEM 25 AND 27 THROUGH 32.
10:32:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
SEPARATE MOTION FOR 26 WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
ABSTAINING.
10:32:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL MOVE ITEM NUMBER 26.
10:32:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.

IF YOU COULD READ THAT SO THE RECORD --
10:32:23AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING.
10:32:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:32:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEMS 33 AND 34.
10:32:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND
-- IS THERE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, 35 THROUGH 47.
10:32:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SAME THING ON 36 AND 47.
MY COMPANY DOESN'T WORK ON THESE ISSUES OR NECESSARILY WITH
THESE COMPANIES, BUT IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION BECAUSE WE
WORK WITH THE RELATED COMPANIES, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF
ON 36 AND 47.
JUST A REMINDER TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THE ETHICS
COMMISSION ASKED US THAT EVEN IF WE'RE NOT SURE IF WE HAVE A
CONFLICT, IT'S BETTER TO AVOID A CONFLICT AND ASKING FOR A
RECUSAL IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND THE ETHICAL THING TO
DO.
10:33:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE THE ITEMS FROM YOUR COMMITTEE MINUS
THE ONES --
10:33:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, 35 -- I MOVE 35, 37 THROUGH 46.

10:33:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:33:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE ITEM 36 AND 47.
10:33:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR
36 AND 47.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
READ IT OUT FOR THE RECORD.
10:33:47AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING.
10:33:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN MOVING ITEM 48,
SECONDED BY HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM 47 IS A REVIEW HEARING TO BE SCHEDULED ON JUNE 26, 2025
AT 1:30 P.M.
49, I'M SORRY.
49 TO BE SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 26, 2025, AT 1:30 P.M.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?
IT IS PAST 10:00.
I NEED A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. AND 10:30 PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THESE ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE FOR ITEM 56.
CHRIS VALIENTE AND SUSAN SOLOMON.
I'LL GET TO THEM JUST IN CASE, IF WE DON'T SWEAR THEM IN
NOW.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS,
PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN,
ON ANY ITEM FROM 50 ALL THE WAY TO 60.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
FOR CLARIFICATION, 59 AND 60 ARE NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
THAT IS THE INTRO MUSIC FOR ITEM NUMBER 50.
WHO WISHES TO COME UP ON ITEM NUMBER 50?
10:35:39AM >> CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
ITEM 50 IS ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 206 WEST
COLUMBUS DRIVE.
STAFF GAVE A PRESENTATION DURING FIRST READING.

I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
10:35:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I REVIEWED THE RECORD FOR ITEM 50 FROM
THE APRIL 3rd MEETING.
I'M READY TO VOTE.
YES, SIR.
10:36:09AM >> ELAINE LUND, HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR
ME.
THANK YOU.
10:36:14AM >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
YOU MAY RECALL THIS MAN'S PROPERTY WAS SPLIT WHEN PART OF IT
WAS IN THE DESIGNATED DISTRICT.
PART OF IT WAS NOT.
WE WENT TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND IT RECEIVED
UNANIMOUS SUPPORT THERE AND BEING FORWARDED TO YOU FOR
COUNCIL'S ADOPTION AND FOR THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MAP.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:36:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 50?
I SEE NO ONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
10:36:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 50, FILE HPC-24-39-C, ORDINANCE

BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, REMOVING THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 206 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF, FROM THE
TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:37:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:37:35AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:37:36AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:37:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT IS ITEM 51.
10:37:44AM >> LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 51 IS REZ-24-15.
IT IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2007 DAVIS STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM 16 RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED USE.
THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE SITE PLAN.
THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:38:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
I SEE NONE.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 51 ANYBODY HERE FOR 51?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR 51 OR ON 51?
I SEE NO ONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:38:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2007 DAVIS STREET, CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:38:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:39:06AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.

10:39:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 52.
10:39:13AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU AGAIN, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 52 IS REZ-24-82.
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1503 AND 1505 NORTH FLORIDA
AVENUE, 1601, 1604, 1605, 1607, 1613, AND 1615 NORTH MARION
STREET, 1602, 1604, 1606 AND 1608 NORTH MORGAN STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, WHICH CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL CG USES TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, CG USES, RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND COMMERCIAL PARKING USES ON-SITE.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE SITE PLAN.
THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I DID WANT TO READ ON THE RECORD SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT
WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
CHANGES, OF COURSE, INCLUDED ON THE STAFF REPORT, BUT ALSO
CHANGES AGREED UPON DURING THE HEARING, AND THEY WERE THE
THREE CHANGES WERE TO SHOW THE COVERED AND PROTECTED BACK
STORAGE FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND TO PROVIDE AND SHOW THE
SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BACK STORAGE AREA FOR THE RESIDENTIAL
ON THE WESTERN BLOCK, AND ALSO TO MODIFY WAIVER NUMBER 3 ON

THE SITE PLAN FROM 28% TO 27%.
AND ALL THREE OF THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE ON THAT
CERTIFIED SITE PLAN.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:40:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM 52?
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:40:51AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
REVISIONS WERE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN AND WE ADDED INTERNAL
BIKE STORAGE FOR COMMERCIAL USES AND 500 SQUARE FEET FOR THE
RESIDENTIAL USES WHICH IS INDUSTRY STANDARD.
10:41:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
52?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE, NOBODY REGISTERED.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:41:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, CHAIR, ABSOLUTELY.
I MOVE FILE REZ-24-82, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY

IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1503 AND 1505 NORTH FLORIDA
AVENUE, 1601, 1604, 1605, 1607, 1613 AND 1615 NORTH MARION
STREET, AND 1602, 1604, 1606 AND 1608 NORTH MORGAN AVENUE IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, STOREFRONT
RESIDENTIAL, ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, COMMERCIAL PARKING
AND RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:42:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:42:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
RESOLUTION FOR SECOND READING.
I MOVE THE RESOLUTION --
10:42:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AFTER SHE ANNOUNCES IT.
YES, MA'AM.
10:42:21AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:42:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
10:42:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:42:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'RE MOVING THE RESOLUTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 53.

10:42:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE WITH DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 53 IS REZ-24-89.
THIS IS AN ITEM, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
2705 EAST 19th AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50
TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED USES.
SITE PLAN REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS
HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:43:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
I SEE NONE.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 53?
10:43:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:43:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED.
MOTION TO CLOSE -- OH, ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON
53?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 53.
10:43:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE FILE REZ-24-89, ORDINANCE BEING

PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2705 EAST 19th AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:43:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:43:59AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:44:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:44:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE
CONSULTATION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
UNANIMOUS YES.
ITEM NUMBER 54.
10:44:13AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 54, REZ-24-111.
REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2403 WEST FIG
STREET.
RM 16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RM 18 RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY.

THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:44:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
I SEE NONE.
10:44:40AM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
WE COMPLIED.
BASICALLY IT IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
10:44:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
I SEE NONE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 54?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, 54.
10:45:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ-24-111, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2403 WEST FIG STREET IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16,
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO RM 18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:45:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, PLEASE RECORD YOUR
VOTE.
10:45:37AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:45:38AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:45:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
ITEM 55.
10:45:44AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FOR
THE RECORD.
ITEM 55 IS REZ-25-07, THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 405 WEST AMELIA AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
SITE PLAN REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:46:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, SIR.
GO AHEAD.
APPLICANT.
10:46:13AM >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
WE MADE THE REVISIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED BY COUNCIL AND
STAFF.
THEY HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND CERTIFIED.

WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:46:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 55?
I SEE NONE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, 55.
10:46:37AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 55, FILE REZ
25-07, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 405 WEST AMELIA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 16, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY, TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:47:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:47:11AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:47:13AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:47:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

ITEM 56.
ON 56, WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED INDIVIDUALS.
YES, MA'AM.
MS. DOCK, GO AHEAD.
10:47:22AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU AGAIN, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 56 IS REZ 25-16.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 103 SOUTH HALE AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RS 60, RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED USE.
THE SITE PLAN CHANGES WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST
AND SECOND READING.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IT SAYS THAT THE APPLICANT OWNER IS CHRIS VALIENTE.
IS HE ONLINE?
10:48:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE TO SEE YOU ON VIDEO.
10:48:13AM >> I'M TRYING TO TURN MY CAMERA ON.
IT DOESN'T ALLOW ME.
10:48:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE YOU OVER INTO OUR DIGITAL WORLD.
10:48:24AM >> IT SAYS THE SESSION DOES NOT INCLUDE CAMERA SHARING.

IS THERE A WAY THE ORGANIZER CAN TURN ON THE CAMERA?
10:48:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU WANT TO SKIP IT TO THE NEXT ITEM
AND THEN COME BACK?
10:48:33AM >>THE CLERK:
YES.
IF YOU COULD ANSWER THE CALL FROM T AND I SO THEY CAN ASSIST
YOU.
10:48:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEY ARE CALLING YOU.
TALK TO THEM AND SEE HOW WE FIGURE THIS OUT.
HOLD 56 AND GO TO 57.
10:48:53AM >> FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 57 IS REZ-25-18.
REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2315 WEST SPRUCE
STREET.
REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
SITE PLAN REVISIONS COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED
TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:49:20AM >> DOMAIN HOMES.
I'VE BEEN SWORN.
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
10:49:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HENRY?
NO.

ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 57?
WE HAVE NO ONE REGISTERED.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:49:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, MY PLEASURE.
MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION.
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2315
WEST SPRUCE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS PROPOSED BY A GENTLEMAN WITH VERY GOOD
MUSIC TASTE.
10:50:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
10:50:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:50:13AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:50:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT IS THE GOOD MUSIC TASTE?
10:50:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HE IS A ROCKER.
10:50:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM -- IT IS A LONG WAY TO THE TOP.
10:50:46AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
APPLE 58 IS REZ-25-28.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8413
NORTH ORANGEVIEW AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 60
TO RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY 50.
THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
THERE'S NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:51:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
GENTLEMAN?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 58?
YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:51:18AM >> AILEEN ROSARIO, I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION ON THIS
APPROVAL.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:51:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON 58? I
SEE NO ONE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING 58?
10:51:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, SIR.
AN ORDINANCE -- FILE -- I MOVE FILE REZ-25-28, AN ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
ORDINANCE REZONING THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
8413 NORTH ORANGEVIEW AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
10:52:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:52:21AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:52:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THE GENTLEMAN FOR 56 -- THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE?
DO WE HAVE SUSAN SOLOMON ONLINE?
SHOULD WE TAKE UP 56 IF THE GENTLEMAN HAS NOTHING ELSE TO
ADD?
10:52:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF HE WANTS TO SPEAK -- WE CAN CONTINUE IT.
10:52:54AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW
HIM TO SPEAK.
10:52:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE TO SEE HIS FACE.
10:53:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE THING IS, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THAT
SUFFICES FROM A DUE PROCESS STANDPOINT FOR ALL INTERESTED

PARTIES WHO MAY BE ABLE TO RAISE AN OBJECTION.
10:53:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S WAIT.
WE'LL GO INTO 59 AND 60 AND HOPEFULLY IT GETS SQUARED AWAY
BY THEN.
10:53:23AM >> I'M WITH CHRIS ON 56.
10:53:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE YOU ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF?
10:53:27AM >> YES, I AM THE OWNER TOO.
10:53:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHO IS THE GENTLEMAN YOU ARE SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF?
10:53:33AM >> CHRIS VALIENTE.
10:53:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS CHRIS VALIENTE ONLINE?
10:53:38AM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
10:53:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND YOU ARE UNDER OATH?
10:53:43AM >> YES.
10:53:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE WAS SWORN IN, I SAW HIM.
10:53:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE
AUTHORIZED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.
10:53:53AM >> YES.
10:53:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU ARE THE OWNER.
10:53:55AM >> YES.
10:53:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, WE GO TO ITEM 56.
IN-PERSON GENTLEMAN AND SUSAN SOLOMON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
ONLINE.
MS. DOCK, YOU PRESENT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO TO YOU.

MS. DOCK.
10:54:09AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
ITEM 56, REZ-25-16 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 103 SOUTH HALE
AVENUE.
THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 60, RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED USE.
SITE PLAN CHANGES WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
10:54:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ALL RIGHT, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:54:42AM >> CARLOS VALIENTE.
10:54:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO PRESENT?
10:54:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR APPROVING THE SITE IN THE FIRST
MEETING.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
10:54:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?

ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 56?
I SEE NO ONE, SO WE HAVE A REGISTERED SPEAKER, WAS SUSAN
SOLOMON SWORN IN, MADAM CLERK?
10:55:06AM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
10:55:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SUSAN SOLOMON, THIS IS YOUR TIME TO
SPEAK.
PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:55:12AM >> MY NAME IS SUSAN SOLOMON.
10:55:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
GO AHEAD.
10:55:18AM >> THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS BEYOND THE
INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS, THE OWNER IS UNDER NO LEGAL
REQUIREMENT TO BUILD A STRUCTURE AS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD,
WHICH PARTY IS NOT OBLIGATED TO BUILD WHAT IT PROMISED.
ONCE YOU REZONE, ONCE YOU CHANGE THE ZONING, HE IS UNDER NO
LEGAL OBLIGATION TO BUILD THE HOUSE AS REPRESENTED.
HE CAN ALSO SELL IT ONCE IT IS REZONED TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND I'D LIKE TO SAY WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IS CALLED SPOT
ZONING.
SPOT ZONING IN FLORIDA FACES STRICT JUDICIAL SCRUTINY AND IT
IS PRESUMED INVALID UNLESS IT SERVES A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC
PURPOSE AND ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
FLORIDA COURTS -- OFTEN INVALIDATE IT IF IT APPEARS TO
BENEFIT SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT FLORIDA PUBLIC
JUSTIFICATION.

AND THIS IS NOT CONFORM TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT CODE
CRITERIA.
ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, SOUTH TAMPA IS EXPERIENCING NEW
PRESSURE, SLOW POPULATION INFLUX POST COVID, ESCALATING
HURRICANE THREATS, SKYROCKETING INSURANCE COSTS AND A
STALLED HOUSING MARKET.
-- [CUTTING OUT] -- HOMES ALREADY FOR SALE AND CONSTRUCTION
ON VACANT LOTS HAS STALLED.
IN THE FIRST MEETING, I SUBMITTED 12 SIGNED PETITIONS OF
CONCERNED NEIGHBORS WHO ALSO OPPOSE THIS CHANGE.
THIS IS NOT THE STANCE OF A SINGLE HOMEOWNER.
IT IS A UNITED VOICE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
LASTLY, MANY RESIDENTS FEARED THAT THIS PROJECT WILL ERODE
PROPERTY VALUES AND LIMIT RESALE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXISTING
HOMEOWNERS WHICH IS A LOSS OUR COMMUNITY CANNOT AFFORD.
FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO DENY THE
PROPOSED REZONING AND PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS PROJECT IS NOT A FITTING ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THE END.
10:57:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
YES, SIR.
10:57:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. SOLOMON DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL OF THE
REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.
IS SOMEBODY FROM STAFF AVAILABLE TO BRIEF US, SINCE SHE

PROVIDED TESTIMONY THAT THE APPLICANT COULD BUILD ANYTHING,
THIS IS A PD, ABOUT THIS BEING SITE PLANNED CONTROLLED.
10:57:56AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
SO THIS PD REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR THE TWO UNITS ON-SITE,
WHICH IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED.
SO THIS IS WHAT'S ALLOWED ON THE SITE UNTIL IT IS REZONED
AGAIN TO ANOTHER PD FOR ANOTHER USE.
10:58:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC LISTENING
TO THIS, IF APPROVED, THE APPLICANT IS RESTRICTED TO BUILD
EXACTLY WHAT HE'S PROVIDED TO STAFF TO BUILD AND NOTHING
MORE AND NOTHING LESS, CORRECT?
10:58:28AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
CORRECT.
THE USE ITSELF CANNOT CHANGE.
YOU CAN HAVE MINOR MODIFICATIONS MADE AND ADJUSTMENT OF A
PLACEMENT OF A STAIRWELL, THINGS LIKE THAT, ENTRY.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE USE OF THE TWO UNITS IS THE ONLY
USE ALLOWED ON THE SITE, EVEN IF OWNERSHIP CHANGES HANDS, IF
THIS PD IS APPROVED, THAT IS THE ZONING AND THE PERMITTED
ENTITLEMENT ON THE SITE.
10:58:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
10:58:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
ANY REBUTTAL?

10:59:01AM >> NO, THANK YOU AGAIN.
THE SITE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, IT NOT CHANGE.
10:59:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS?
10:59:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE FILE REZ-25-16, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 103 SOUTH HALE
AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RS-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND
SECOND FROM VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:59:46AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND MIRANDA VOTING
NO.
10:59:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:59:51AM >> THANK YOU.
NOW WE GO TO ITEMS 59 AND 60.
MR. SHELBY, DO WE READ THE RESOLUTION AFTER THE SECOND

PUBLIC HEARING MAY 15th?
IS THAT CORRECT?
11:00:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:00:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
BUT IT IS A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD ON MAY 15.
WE DON'T VOTE ON ANYTHING TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:00:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:00:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM 59, MS. SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:00:22AM >> SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
YES, THIS IS A FIRST OF TWO REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR
THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE RESOLUTION WILL BE READ
AT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 15.
AND THE DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.
11:00:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. HUDSON, COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:00:41AM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
FOR THE RECORD, WE'LL DISPENSE WITH OUR USUAL PowerPoint
FOR THIS AND HEAR STRAIGHT FROM THE SOURCE.
ARNOLD WITH DDA DEVELOPMENT IS THE DEVELOPER.
ARCHITECT SAM CLEMONS WITH PLACE ARCHITECTURE IS HERE WHO
CAN RUN THROUGH THE SITE PLAN IF YOU ALL WISH.
WITH THAT, BOWEN.

11:00:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. ARNOLD, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE
YOUR NAME.
11:01:00AM >> BOWEN ARNOLD, DDA DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW US.
WE'RE APARTMENT DEVELOPERS HERE IN TOWN BASED IN TAMPA.
WE'VE DONE BOTH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND WE'VE DONE MARKET
RATE HOUSING.
THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO
DO 192 UNITS, 10% OF WHICH ARE AFFORDABLE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE SITE PLAN, AS TYLER MENTIONED, TIM
CLEMONS, THE ARCHITECT IS HERE IF YOU NEED TO SEE HIM.
WE HAVE A SMALL GROUND FLOOR RETAIL COMMERCIAL COMPONENT.
WE HAVE PERIMETER SIDEWALKS IN ALL THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
WE HAVE AVERAGE PARKING OF 1.4 SPACES PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
AND WE HAVE 20% GREENSPACE REQUIREMENT.
WE'RE DOING 50.
THERE ARE FIVE GRANT OAKS ON THE SITE.
WE'RE PRESERVING ALL OF THEM.
AND WE HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN
TRANSMITTED TO ALL OF YOU THIS MORNING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION.
11:02:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:02:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS GOING TO BE A ROLLING RECORD FOR ME.
CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR BIKE PARKING?

11:02:14AM >> TIM, TO DO YOU WANT TO --
11:02:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SPECIFICALLY I'M LOOKING FOR PROTECTED BIKE
PARKING FOR RESIDENTS.
AND THEN I'M LOOKING FOR COVERED, SECURE, WELL LIT PARKING
IN FRONT OF DOORS FOR YOUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS.
11:02:32AM >> FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING, THE SITE PLAN HAS A
FIVE-LEVEL PARKING GARAGE THAT'S PARALLEL AND ADJACENT TO
THE INTERSTATE ACTING SORT OF AS A BUFFER FOR NOT ONLY OUR
PROJECT BUT A LITTLE BIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD FURTHER TO THE
SOUTH.
11:02:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOUR NAME, SIR.
11:02:47AM >> TIM CLEMONS.
I AM THE ARCHITECT WITH PLACE ARCHITECTURE.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
SO THE STRUCTURED PARKING, THERE IS A RAMP FROM THE FIRST TO
SECOND FLOOR THAT WE'RE NOT PARKING UNDER, SO A PORTION OF
THAT, ONCE WE GET ABOVE SEVEN FOOT HEAD HEIGHT WILL BE FOR
THE INTERIOR BICYCLE PARKING.
THE COMMERCIAL SPACES ALONG 35th STREET, BECAUSE THERE ARE
A COUPLE OF GRAND TREES THERE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A 20-FOOT
SETBACK ON THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
SO ADJACENT TO THE SIDEWALK WE'LL HAVE BICYCLE PARKING
DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE ON 35th STREET.
11:03:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WILL IT BE COVERED?
11:03:36AM >> THE COMMERCIAL BICYCLE?

WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THAT SHOWN AS COVERED.
BUT WE CAN MAKE THAT COVERED.
11:03:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, WHY I KEEP BRINGING THIS UP, E-BIKES
AND REGULAR BIKES VERY EXPENSIVE.
IT'S HOT.
IT'S RAINY IN FLORIDA.
IF YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE A BIKE, YOU NEED TO
MAKE SURE IT IS COMFORTABLE AND WELCOMING.
I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE THAT TO BE A PART OF YOUR AGREEMENT.
11:04:02AM >> I RIDE MY BIKE TO WORK MYSELF.
I PUT IN BETWEEN 2 AND 3 THOUSAND MILES A YEAR ON MY
BICYCLE.
I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
WE DID NOT CURRENTLY HAVE COVERED PARKING FOR THE COMMERCIAL
SPACE, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN ADD.
11:04:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AT THIS POINT -- IS THIS RELATED TO THE
DEVELOPMENT ORDER?
11:04:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT DOESN'T NEED A REZONING.
11:04:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
THIS IS THE FIRST HEARING.
THIS IS WHY THEY ARE DOING THIS.
THEY ARE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE'S FEEDBACK.
THIS IS MY FEEDBACK.
AGAIN, THIS WILL BE COMING IN FRONT OF EVERY TIME PEOPLE DO
REDEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE URBAN CORE, WE REALLY NEED

TO FOCUS ON THIS.
11:04:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I SUSPECT MY QUESTION IS, HOW IS THIS
RELATED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND DOES IT REQUIRE
CHANGING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND IS IT ENFORCEABLE OR
IS THIS JUST A REPRESENTATION THAT COUNCIL CANNOT ENFORCE
BECAUSE IT IS ON A HAND SHAKE?
11:05:02AM >> I'M HAPPY TO TAKE A STAB AT THAT.
IF I'M WRONG, MS. JOHNSON VELEZ CAN CORRECT ME.
GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S APPROVING SOMETHING
THAT CAN THEN GET BUILDING PERMITS.
THIS IS NOT A REZONING.
THIS IS HOUSE BILL 1339 PROJECT.
SO THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, A SITE PLAN AND
AFFIRMATIVE STATEMENTS OF COMPLIANCE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
SO WE HEAR YOU ON PERHAPS SOME TYPE OF INTERIOR LIKE 500
SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S WHAT WE DID ON THE PRIOR DEAL.
THAT IS A CHANGE THAT CAN BE MADE BETWEEN THE FIRST AND
SECOND READING OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THAT'S IN THE SITE PLAN.
I DON'T SEE ANY LEGAL PROHIBITION TO THAT.
IT'S VERY MINOR.

IT'S NONCONTROVERSIAL.
WE'RE MINDFUL OF THE CONSIDERATION.
IT'S DRAWN TO PD STANDARDS-ISH.
DOESN'T HAVE AS MANY BOXES TO CHECK AS A PD NECESSARILY.
SOME THINGS LIKE THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ON THERE.
WE HEAR YOU AND I THINK THAT IS A CHANGE WE CAN MAKE SUBJECT
TO ZONING APPROVAL, ERIC'S APPROVAL BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING BECAUSE THERE IS A SECOND READING FOR THIS.
11:06:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR BEING COOPERATIVE LIKE THAT.
COMING BEFORE COUNCIL AND THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE
TRANSFORMATIONAL, IT'S IN SEARCH OF THE MORE PERFECT
PROJECT.
RECEIVING THE FEEDBACK AND I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
POSITION IS WELL TAKEN.
AS WE'RE REINVENTING THE CITY AND INVESTING HEAVILY IN THE
INFRASTRUCTURE, BOTH THE GOVERNMENT SIDE AND PRIVATE SIDE
HAS TO BELLY UP TO THE TABLE AND SERVE IT UP.
APPRECIATE YOU BEING COOPERATIVE ON THAT.
11:06:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ABBYE FEELEY, ERIC COTTON, YOU ARE ON.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
11:06:42AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS HOUSE BILL 1339 AGREEMENT.
THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE AGREEMENT YOU WORKED ON ON FOWLER
AVENUE, WHICH THE SITE PLAN IS AN EXHIBIT TO THE AGREEMENT.
THE MODIFICATIONS, THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO HAVE THOSE

MODIFICATIONS MADE, THAT COULD BE MADE AND THE SITE PLAN
COULD BE UPDATED WITHIN THE EXHIBIT TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR
THAT SECOND READING.
ERIC, DID YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT?
11:07:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, MS. FEELEY.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
ABBYE FEELEY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:07:24AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT
AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
11:07:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. COTTON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AS
WELL BEFORE YOU BEGIN.
11:07:31AM >>ERIC COTTON:
ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
ABBYE COVERED WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
I'M GOOD.
THANK YOU.
11:07:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
MS. JOHNSON VELEZ.
11:07:44AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
I KEEP HEARING TWO, SECOND READING
AND WE CAN MODIFY THIS, BUT THERE ARE NOT TWO READINGS.
COUNCIL WILL ADOPT A RESOLUTION.
AFTER THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU DECIDE TO PROCEED.
IT IS A CHANGE THAT CAN BE MADE AND THEN WOULD YOU ADOPT THE
RESOLUTION.
THERE WILL ONLY BE THE ONE ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION.

11:08:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
11:08:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU RECOMMEND I PUT THIS IN THE FORM OF A
MOTION OR IS THIS JUST ENOUGH?
11:08:11AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
I THINK IT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO DIRECT
THE DEVELOPER TO MODIFY THE AGREEMENT.
11:08:16AM >> WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND WHEN IT COMES BACK, WE'LL
SHOW HOW IT WAS DEPICTED.
11:08:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
11:08:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MS. McCASKILL, YOU WERE FIRST --
YOU'LL SWITCH?
OKAY.
NOW IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
FRAN TATE.
LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL.
MS. POYNOR, MS. McCASKILL, AND THE GENTLEMAN AND MS. TATE.
11:08:40AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I READ THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS IN OnBase AND I DIDN'T SEE
THE PERCENTAGE OF AMI THESE WILL PRODUCE.
30, 50, 80?
100, 120?
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THIS 10% IS DISTRIBUTED, ESPECIALLY
AMONG THE LOWER END.
WE TEND TO AS A SOCIETY WANT TO CLUMP THE LOWER BRACKETS
TOGETHER.

REALITY IS, JUST LIKE IN EDUCATION, IF YOU DISTRIBUTE THEM
EQUALLY AROUND THE HIGHER AS WELL, YOU'LL SEE MORE
PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS.
AND WE REALLY NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.
I DID NOT SEE THAT ANYWHERE IN THE OnBase PAPER WORK.
I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE AGREEMENT.
I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THESE ARE HUNDRED
PERCENT AND BELOW AND DISTRIBUTED, EVEN IF IT'S 10%, ONLY 10
UNITS, YOU MAKE ONE, TWO -- YOU MAKE ONE OR TWO OF EACH AND
YOU SPREAD THEM OUT.
SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I THINK THE BICYCLE IDEA IS GREAT AND THAT'S MY POSITION.
THANK YOU.
11:10:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MS. TATE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:10:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.
FRAN TATE, PRESIDENT OF THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION.
I REALLY APPRECIATE NOW THAT DEVELOPERS ARE COMING BEFORE
THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE'VE BEEN LEFT OUT, FORGOTTEN EVERYTHING.
IT IS AN EDUCATION PIECE FOR US.
SO FAR TWO DEVELOPERS TO PRESENT TO US.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS DEVELOPER, BUT THESE ARE OUR BOUNDARIES,
35th, I-4 BECAUSE WE HAVE A HUGE BOUNDARY.
THE CITY ASSIGNED DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING ON THE NORTH

BOUNDARY, NORTH 29th STREET ON THE WEST BOUNDARY.
COLUMBUS DRIVE ON THE SOUTH.
THEN BACK UP 40th STREET.
THEN DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING AGAIN.
JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS A HUGE BOUNDARY
THAT THE CITY ASSIGNED US SO MANY YEARS AGO.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE MORE OF THE DEVELOPERS COMING BEFORE US.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
I COULD HAVE MY SECRETARY CHECK AGAIN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A
P.O. BOX AT THE YBOR POST OFFICE.
I'LL HAVE HER CHECK AGAIN FOR THE FRIENDLY NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
BUT WE APPRECIATE, AND WE WANT TO BE MORE INVOLVED NOW WITH
ALL OF THESE DEVELOPING BUILDINGS AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE'VE
GOT HERE, COMMERCIAL AND YOU SAID 10%, WAS IT OFFICE SPACE
OR 10% APARTMENT SPACE?
SUPPOSED TO BE AFFORDABLE.
WE'LL BE LOOKING INTO THAT.
BUT THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
11:11:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
YES, SIR, COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:11:59AM >> MY NAME IS COREY NORRIS.
3505 EAST 12th AVENUE.
THIS PROJECT IS LITERALLY IN MY BACKYARD.
IT TAKES UP THE ENTIRE BLOCK FROM 34th, 12th, TO 35th

WHICH ISN'T A THRU STREET.
IT IS A COUPLE OF 50 FEET.
AND THEN THREE HOUSES THAT THE ENTIRE BACK STRIP IS THIS
PROJECT.
NOW, I AM A YIMBY.
YES IN MY BACKYARD.
I FULLY WANT DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
I WAS WAITING TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD DO SINCE THE
DEMOLITION, NOT CHRISTMAS, BUT THE CHRISTMAS BEFORE THAT.
IT'S BEEN AN EYESORE, I LOVE IT.
THERE ARE FACTORS TO THIS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO
ACCOUNT FIRST AND FOREMOST.
THOSE THREE HOUSES, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THEM,
THOSE THREE HOUSES SEWER SYSTEMS RUN INTO THAT INDUSTRIAL
LOT.
SO WE BACK UP INTO THEIR LOT.
AND WHENEVER THEY COME BY AND SUCK OUT THE SEWERS, IT BLOWS
UP ALL OF THE PLUMBING IN OUR AREA.
NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING 192 MORE UNITS, WHICH, BY
THE WAY, IS TWICE WHAT THIS LITTLE CUTOFF NEIGHBORHOOD HAS
FOR UNITS TOTAL ON THAT LINE.
AND THAT WORRIES ME VERY, VERY MUCH.
SO THERE IS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT.
THE ROADWAYS, NONE OF THESE ROADWAYS IN THE LITTLE AREA.
WE'RE CUT OFF.

36 IS A DEAD END.
7 IS MORE OR LESS A DEAD END BECAUSE IT'S ALL JUST FRONTAGE
FOR RETAIL PROPERTIES.
34th, WHILE NOT A DEAD END, THE OTHER SIDE DEAD ENDS INTO
THE I-4 CONNECTOR NOW.
SO OUR LITTLE 34, 36 AND 7th NEIGHBORHOOD IS DISCRETE.
THERE IS NO IN AND OUT.
THERE ARE NO LARGE ROADS, WHATEVER.
THAT IS -- THAT AREA ABSOLUTELY CANNOT HANDLE TWICE AS MANY
NEW CONSTRUCTION UNITS WITH THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF
IT.
SPECIFICALLY 12th AVENUE CANNOT HANDLE IT.
NOW, IF THE ENTIRE THING DUMPS ONTO 34th STREET AND ALL OF
THE IN AND OUT TRAFFIC IS FROM THERE, NO PROBLEM.
I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT WHATSOEVER.
IT'S FOUR LANES ACROSS.
I SEE THAT AS PERFECTLY REASONABLE.
12th AVENUE, WE HAVE MORE THAN A DOZEN KIDS THAT RUN
AROUND ON THESE STREETS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR FIVE YEARS.
THEY HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN ME.
IT IS NOT GOING TO BE TO DUMP THAT MUCH TRAFFIC ONTO THESE
LITTLE TEENY STREETS THAT DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.
AGAIN, I LIKE WHAT THEY SAY.
THAT'S THE THING.

DRAINAGE IS ANOTHER THING.
WE ALREADY HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT AS WELL.
I'LL MOVE FORWARD QUICKER.
THE LAST THING BESIDES THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT TO THIS
WHICH IS GOING TO IMPACT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD GREATLY IS THE --
I DON'T THINK 10% IS EVEN REMOTELY ENOUGH AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, SPECIFICALLY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS.
AND THAT NUMBER NEEDS TO GO UP DRASTICALLY.
THANK YOU.
11:15:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
MS. McCASKILL.
11:15:11AM >> KELLA McCASKILL.
I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK.
I WAS MOVING CLOSER SO I COULD HEAR WHAT TYLER HAD TO SAY.
NOW THAT MS. FRAN TATE SPOKE, I WANT TO SHARE I'M TOTALLY
CONFIDENT IN THE PROJECT AND THE TEAM WORKING ON THIS.
I BELIEVE IT WILL SET A TREND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TO
COME.
WE NEED DENSITY IN THE AREA.
I DO BELIEVE THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE
GENTLEMAN JUST EXPRESSED.
I SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
THANK YOU.
11:15:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

-- COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:15:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS WONDERING IF ANYBODY FROM THE
DEVELOPMENT COULD SPEAK TO SOME OF THE ISSUES?
MAYBE PUT UP A SITE PLAN TO TAKE A LOOK?
11:15:45AM >> WE'LL DO THAT.
11:15:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALSO, THE AMI PERCENTAGE WAS BROUGHT.
11:15:50AM >> I THINK IT'S 120%.
11:15:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
120 YOU SAY?
11:15:55AM >> YES.
LOOK, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
THIS IS A TEN-YEAR ENTITLEMENT.
PART OF WHY WE WANTED TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE
ABLE TO APPLY FOR SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH FLORIDA
HOUSING.
TAX CREDIT PROGRAM, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT
TAKES TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS OF APPLICATIONS TO GET FUNDED
BECAUSE IT IS SO COMPETITIVE.
THIS WILL GIVE US AND WE CAN'T APPLY TO FLORIDA HOUSING
WITHOUT ZONING IN PLACE.
THIS KEEPS ZONING IN PLACE.
ENTIRELY LIKELY THIS COULD BE 100% AFFORDABLE AT 60% OF
MEDIAN, BUT WE DON'T KNOW.
IT JUST GIVES US FLEXIBILITY, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT
RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW, THE COMMITMENT IS 10% AT 120.

11:16:34AM >> TYLER HUDSON, FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE
REQUIRES IS THE 10% IS AFFORDABLE UNDER CHAPTER 400.
WHAT BOWEN JUST SAID I WANT TO REALLY EMPHASIZE, DOING TRUE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WE CALL IT, 80% AMI AND BELOW IS
INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED AND IT RELIES ON A WHOLE MYRIAD OF
EXTERNAL FUNDING SOURCES, SOME OF WHICH ARE IN A CHALLENGING
STATE TO PUT IT MILDLY.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU NEED TO GET THE TAX CREDITS
FROM TALLAHASSEE WHICH FLOW THROUGH FROM WASHINGTON, ERIC
COTTON'S SIGNATURE SAYING THAT THE ZONING IS IN PLACE.
THAT'S WHERE THE HOPE FOR THE 1339 BILLS IS, WE CAN MORE
QUICKLY GET THE ZONING IN PLACE AND AVOID A CUMBERSOME PD
PROCESS.
THE 10% IS THE MINIMUM.
AS BOWEN ALLUDED TO AND GIVEN HIS EXPERTISE IN TAX CREDIT
DEALS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE APPLYING FOR THOSE.
YOU GET THOSE, MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE WHAT THOSE AFFORDABILITY
REQUIREMENTS WILL BE.
11:17:26AM >> THOSE ARE 60% OF MEDIAN AND BELOW.
THAT'S KIND OF THE GOLD STANDARD FOR AFFORDABILITY.
AGAIN, IT IS A VERY COMPETITIVE PROGRAM.
WE HAVE TO APPLY MULTIPLE YEARS.
YEARS AGO, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR THE FIRST PROJECT OVER
AT ENCORE, THEY PROBABLY APPLIED FIVE OR SIX YEARS IN A ROW
TO GET FUNDED.

IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE.
OUR GOAL IS ULTIMATELY TO APPLY FOR SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND THIS GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY.
11:17:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:17:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU ALL ARE MAKING -- YOU NEED THIS AS A
PLATFORM TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP.
THAT NEXT STEP IS GOING TO INCLUDE NOT JUST AFFORDABLE BUT
THE POTENTIAL OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH IS VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT, OBVIOUSLY.
YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THINGS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE UNDER
THE SYSTEM BY WHICH TO QUANTIFY THAT BUT ALSO FOR THE MIDDLE
OF THE MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING CLASS PEOPLE THAT WE CAN'T
FORGET ABOUT.
11:18:20AM >> WE AGREE.
11:18:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.
I LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING IN THAT REGARD.
11:18:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER?
MR. SHELBY -- OH, THE SITE PLAN.
DO YOU HAVE THE SITE PLAN UP ON THE OVERHEAD?
DO WE TAKE ACTION TODAY OR --
11:18:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOT UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION
WITH REGARD TO THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU'VE HAD.
11:18:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

THE COVERED BICYCLE PARKING, AS COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK
BROUGHT UP, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THE WEATHER, THE RAIN, THE EV.
THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS AS TO WHY YOU'RE PUTTING A
DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GOAL OF IN THE FUTURE WORKFORCE
AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SHOULD THEY NOT HAVE A CAR, I THINK
IT MAKES SENSE TO ADD THAT BECAUSE IT WILL CERTAINLY BE
USED.
YOU AS A BICYCLIST, TAMPA IS NOT THE EASIEST AND THE
WEATHER.
11:19:27AM >> IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL SITE PLAN, THE CONSTRAINTS -- MY
DOCUMENT WENT AWAY.
IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL SITE PLAN, AS MENTIONED EARLIER,
WE'VE GOT A STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE AT THE NORTH END OF
THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE INTERSTATE AND PARALLEL TO THE
INTERSTATE ACTING AS A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER FOR THE
GREENSPACE AND THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAD WITH
THE PROPERTY, THE FIVE GRAND OAK TREES THAT HAVE BEEN
PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.
THERE WAS ALSO THE 35th STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH DOESN'T
HAVE A STREET ON IT BUT DOES HAVE UTILITIES ON IT.
UTILITY EASEMENT THROUGH THE 50-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
WE ARE UTILIZING THAT AS THE ENTRY DRIVE TO THE PROJECT.

IT'S SORT OF CENTRAL TO THE SITE.
WE'VE LOCATED THE COMMERCIAL SPACE AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER
OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO 36.
WE LIKE THAT LOCATION.
BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF THE MAJOR STREET, AND IT ALSO
CONNECTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE SO
THAT THE COMMERCIAL CAN SERVE BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOUTH
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD NORTH, TO THE NORTH.
IN TERMS OF BICYCLE PARKING SPECIFICALLY, THE PARKING GARAGE
IS ENTERED FROM THE EAST SIDE OFF OF THE DRIVE OFF OF 12th
AND THE RAMP, WHEN YOU ENTER, THE RAMP IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT
OF YOU, GOING UP.
AT THE WEST END OF THE PARKING GARAGE, SORT OF WHERE THIS
DASHED LINE IS, IS WHERE THE GARAGE IS HIGH ENOUGH THAT
CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES THERE, BUT WE CAN
REMOVE THOSE TWO PARKING SPACES AND WE CAN PROVIDE SHELTERED
BICYCLE PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTS UNDER THE HIGH PART OF THE
RAMP.
THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD ADD, BECAUSE TWO MORE PARKING
SPACES ON THE SURFACE PARKING LOT TO THE EAST, BUT THAT'S AN
EASY CHANGE TO MAKE.
IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL SPACE, WHAT WE WOULD DO, I THINK, WE
NEED TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF BICYCLE
PARKING SPACES FOR 2800 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S PROBABLY FOUR OR SIX.

SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS CARVE THAT INTO A SMALL PORTION OF
THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
COMMERCIAL SPACE BACK TO NOT LOSE ANY EFFECTIVE SQUARE
FOOTAGE FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
11:21:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK MAKES THAT
MOTION -- YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:22:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
DID YOU SAY IT WAS 2800 SQUARE FEET?
11:22:06AM >> YES, MA'AM.
11:22:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE BUSINESS OR
SEVERAL?
11:22:13AM >> IF YOU CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN AGAIN, THE STAIRWELL, ONE OF
THE EXIT STAIRS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ABOVE COMES
DOWN SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPACE.
WHAT THAT ALLOWS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY SPLIT IT
INTO TWO SMALLER SPACES.
THE AVERAGE SIZE WOULD BE 1400 SQUARE FEET OR ONE LARGER
SPACE.
BUT -- SO IT'S DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS IT TO BE EITHER
ONE SPACE OROLOGICAL TWO.
BUT PROBABLY NOT REALISTICALLY MORE THAN TWO.
11:22:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER.
11:22:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I
KNOW YOU HAVE FUTURE GOALS AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO
ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT.
BUT IN EAST TAMPA, WE HEARD IT THIS MORNING, CHANNELSIDE'S
PLAN WAS PUT IN PLACE 20 PLUS YEARS AGO WHEN EAST TAMPA'S
WAS, BUT LOOK AT WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, WHAT CHANNEL LOOKS
LIKE AND LOOK AT EAST TAMPA.
THIS IS NOT GENTRIFICATION.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE, TALKING ABOUT
AFFORDABLE, TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
STAYING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT INVESTING IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S PROJECTS LIKE THESE THAT I THINK ARE WORTHY.
I THINK THE FOCUS SHOULD SHIFT TO THESE PARTS OF THE
COMMUNITY THAT ARE FORGOTTEN.
WE TALK ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS, THAT COMES UP A LOT.
BUT IN EAST TAMPA, THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY.
BUT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.
THE COMMUNITY TALKS ABOUT IT, BUT DEVELOPERS AND PEOPLE WITH
MONEY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AREA AND INVEST IN IT FOR
EVERYONE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

PUT IN THE RECORD REGARDING THE BICYCLE?
11:23:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING
COVERED, SECURE BIKE PARKING FOR RESIDENTS AND COVERED
ACCESSIBLE BIKE PARKING FOR COMMERCIAL.
11:24:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
SO WE HAVE THAT ON RECORD.
MR. SHELBY, DO WE TAKE ANY ACTION TODAY OR DO WE EVEN CLOSE
THE PUBLIC HEARING?
11:24:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANNOUNCE
THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING DATE, TIME AND LOCATION.
11:24:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD HERE AT 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602 AT OLD
CITY HALL ON MAY 15, 2025, AT 10:30 A.M.
ITEM 60.
AND FROM HERE, IT'S ALMOST 11:30.
AFTER THIS ITEM, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG IT TAKES, WOULD
COUNCIL LIKE TO BREAK FOR LUNCH?

OKAY.
YES, SIR.
11:24:57AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
CLERK TO SHARE THE ELMO SCREEN.
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, PRESENTING FILE
VAC-25-06.
THE APPLICANT IS STEVE YERRID, REPRESENTATIVE IS GARNER
BREWER HUDSON.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 5001 WEST SAN GABLE COURT.
THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF
WEST DRYAD STREET RIGHT OF WAY LOCATED NORTH OF SAN GABLE
COURT, SOUTH OF SAN MIGUEL STREET, EAST OF OLD TAMPA BAY AND
WEST OF DUNDEE STREET.
THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED FEBRUARY 5, 2025.
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED.
THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY APPROXIMATELY 2,923 SQUARE FEET.
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN
YELLOW.
HERE IS THE ORIGINAL PLAT OF THE AREA REQUESTED TO BE
VACATED.
LOOKING WEST FROM NORTH DUNDEE STREET.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY STORMWATER AND TECO.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES MUST COMPLY WITH

CHAPTER 27, AS REGARDS TO TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN
FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS PLACED TO ADJACENT TO TREES IN A
VACATED AREA.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
11:26:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR ITEM 60?
MR. HUDSON.
11:26:50AM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE FOR THE RECORD.
DO YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT ON THIS ONE?
PICK UP WHERE ROSS LEFT OFF, TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
ON THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE THE AERIAL.
YOU'LL NOTE TWO IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT A
LITTLE BIT LATER.
THE FIRST IS THAT THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY AREA DOES FALL SHORT OF
THE SHORELINE.
THE LAND THAT IS WESTWARD OF THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY AREA IS UP
LAND THAT WAS FORMED BY ACCRETION, WHICH I LEARNED A FEW
WEEKS AGO IS THE OPPOSITE OF EROSION.
SHORELINE CHANGED SINCE 1919.
THE LAND THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS
OWNED BY THE PORT AUTHORITY OF TAMPA.

ALSO NOTICE ON THE RIGHT, THE CLOSED CAPTIONING CONCEALS IT
A LITTLE BIT BUT TWO STORMWATER INLETS OFF OF DUNDEE STREET
THERE.
LET'S GO BACK TO 1919.
THIS IS ADVERTISED AS A UNIT OF LAND CALLED SUNSET CAMP.
IT HAD 96 LOTS RANGING IN PRICE FROM 200 TO 300 DOLLARS,
DEPENDING ON LOCATION, IT WAS OWNED BY THE ESTATE OF POTTER
PALMER, A CHICAGO BUSINESSMAN.
YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT IS ON THE PLAT DOESN'T LOOK EXACTLY
LIKE REALITY TODAY, BUT THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES, FOR
EXAMPLE, DRYAD STREET DOES EXIST.
NEPTUNE STREET WHICH IT RUNS INTO IS NOW DUNDEE.
THE AREA OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TALKING ABOUT WAS THE TERMINUS
OF DRYAD STREET.
END OF DRYAD STREET TO WHAT WAS THEN THE SHORELINE.
DRYAD STREET WAS NEVER BUILT PAST DUNDEE, WHAT WAS CALLED
NEPTUNE ON THE PLAT.
IT STOPPED.
IT WAS A DEAD END AND FOR A CENTURY AND SIX YEARS ITS
REMAINED A DEAD END, ALBEIT ONE NO LONGER ON THE SHORELINE.
FIRST THING I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR HERE, THIS LAND IS
PRIVATELY OWNED.
SINCE 1919, THE FOLKS ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS DEAD END HAVE
OWNED THIS LAND IN FEE SIMPLE.
SO THEY OWNED THE LAND FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE EARTH UP TO

SOME CELESTIAL POINT ABOVE, BUT THIS IS PRIVATE LAND.
WE HAVE A TITLE COMMITMENT FROM OLD REPUBLIC TITLE INSURANCE
COMPANY.
WE HAVE RESEARCHED THIS EXHAUSTIVELY.
THIS LITTLE STUB OF RIGHT-OF-WAY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHILE
THERE IS A PUBLIC EASEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN
DEPTH, I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR THIS IS PRIVATELY OWNED
LAND THAT IN 1919 WAS DEDICATED BY THE THEN OWNER FOR A ROAD
THAT HASN'T BEEN BUILT IN 106 YEARS AND IS NOT GOING TO BE
BUILT.
NEXT POINT, THIS LAND IS NOT BEING USED FOR ITS DEDICATED
PURPOSE.
DON'T NEED A ROAD HERE.
A LOT OF ROADS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
50-FOOT WIDE ROAD.
ENTIRE PLAT LIKE A LOT OF PORTIONS OF SOUTH TAMPA, ROADWAYS
ARE QUITE RIDE, THEY ARE 50 FEET WIDE.
ON THE PLAT ON PAPER, BUT IN REALITY, THESE ROADS ARE MAYBE
18, 19 FEET.
SO NEARLY EVERY PERSON IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A NICE BONUS
OF PROBABLY 16 AND A HALF FOOT PORTIONS OF THEIR LOTS THAT
ARE TECHNICALLY IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT CERTAINLY NOT USED
THAT WAY AND NO ONE REALLY WANTS TO CHANGE THAT.
SIMILARLY HERE, THIS PIECE OF LAND ON THE RIGHT IN RED,
THAT'S WHERE THE END, THE TERMINUS POINT OF DRYAD IS.

IT'S NOT USED FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY.
NOT NEEDED FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO
THE NORTH AND SOUTH ACCESS THEIR PROPERTY DIFFERENTLY.
LOT TWO OF BLOCK SEVEN, THAT IS ACCESSED DIRECTLY OFF
DUNDEE.
AND THEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ARE
ACCESSED OFF OF SAN GABLE COURT, A PLAT CREATED IN 1988 TO
REPLAT LOTS ONE AND TWO OF BLOCK EIGHT OF SUNSET CAMP PLAT.
THERE'S BEEN SOME OPINION ABOUT THIS, WHICH IS IN YOUR
IN-BOXES AND I BELIEVE IS HERE.
WE UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THIS.
WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
WE THINK A LOT OF THE DISSATISFACTION WITH THIS PROPOSAL IS
REALLY BASED ON MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THIS LAND IS AND
WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO AND WHY WE ARE FILING
THIS.
I'LL TAKE THOSE IN ORDER.
FIRST, THIS MOTION THAT THIS IS ON THE WATER, NOT TRUE.
THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY STOPS SHORT OF THE WATER.
AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARILY OBVIOUS, I WANT
TO BE CLEAR.
THERE IS A SHORELINE FENCE.
IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE TO THINK THAT BIG PIECE OF GRASS
ACTUALLY GOES TO THE WATER IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S OWNERSHIP
INTEREST, IT DOES NOT.

THIS IS MY BEST ATTEMPT AT SCALING IT.
IT STOPS SHORT OF THAT.
AT MINIMUM, THERE'S 20 FEET BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THIS
RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE SHORELINE AT THE TOP TO THE RIGHT,
WHICH IS THE NORTH, ANGLES OUT SO EVEN FARTHER AWAY THERE.
THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS NO RIGHT TO ACCESS THE WATER HERE.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THAT'S EVER BEEN DONE.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE PICTURES OF WHAT THE CURRENT SHORELINE
LOOKS LIKE, I CAN SHOW THEM TO YOU.
I WAS THERE YESTERDAY.
NO WAY THAT ANYONE IS GOING THERE WITH A KAYAK OR
PADDLEBOARD, NOT ONLY TRESPASSING UPON PORT PROPERTY, GOING
RIGHT AFTER AN ACTIVE STORMWATER FACILITY.
THAT IS NOT A PLACE THAT'S IDEAL FOR RECREATIONAL WATERFRONT
USES.
YOU'D HAVE TO GET THE COURT'S PERMISSION TO DO THAT, WHICH
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE.
REALLY WANT TO PUT THIS TO REST.
WE FEEL THIS IS SOMETHING NOT IN OUR VIEW OPEN TO DEBATE.
THERE IS NO WATERFRONT ACCESS HERE.
THE SECOND IS STORMWATER.
THIS IS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A MISCONCEPTION.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING HERE.
WHEN WE'RE HERE DOING VACATE, TALKING ABOUT RELIEVING IT,
DENSITY, PUT IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING, NO ONE IS BUILDING

ANYTHING HERE.
THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL HAS A STORMWATER
EASEMENT PROPOSED OVER THE ENTIRETY OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THAT WOULD HAVE TO GET RELEASED WITH THE APPROVAL OF
STORMWATER WHICH WOULD NEVER HAPPEN, AND BY THE CITY
COUNCIL, WHICH, LIKEWISE, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
NO ONE IS BUILDING ANYTHING HERE.
THE HOUSES HERE ARE FINE.
NO ATTEMPT TO BUILD ANYTHING.
HERE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
TWO INLETS WHICH I SHOWED YOU EARLIER ON, THE SEWER HOLES.
A MANHOLE JUST AT THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BURIED AND THEN A STORM DISCHARGE POINT
THAT GOES INTO OLD TAMPA BAY.
ACTIVE STORMWATER FACILITY.
STORMWATER GOT COMFORTABLE WITH RETAINING AN EASEMENT.
I WOULD SAY THAT -- I CAN'T PUT A PERCENTAGE BUT SOME OF THE
LARGEST PROJECTS THIS COUNCIL HAS APPROVED AND AWARE OF HAS
VITAL CITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT LIES IN AN EASEMENT.
ALL OF YBOR CITY DRAINS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF YBOR HARBOR,
BARELY EVEN HAS AN EASEMENT.
ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THAT PROJECT.
EASEMENT FOR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY COMMON.
THE REASON WE'RE OPEN TO GETTING THIS APPROVED IN ITS
CURRENT STATE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE ZERO INTENT TO BUILD HERE.

PRIVATE LAND GRAB, OVERDEVELOPMENT, THOSE ARE LEGITIMATE
CONCERNS, NOT FOR THESE FACTS, NOT FOR THIS APPLICATION.
THIRD IS ABOUT THE PARK.
THIS IS NOT A PARK.
RIGHT-OF-WAY IS NOT A PARK.
THE NICE THING ABOUT REAL ESTATE LAW, HASN'T CHANGED MUCH,
HASN'T CHANGED IN A FEW CENTURIES.
CAN'T EXPAND THE NATURE OF AN EASEMENT BEYOND THE SCOPE IT
WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED.
DEDICATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR DRYAD STREET WAS NOT A PARK,
WASN'T A WHARF, WASN'T DOCKAGE.
LOOKED AT A LOT OF PLATS AS HAS ROSS.
THERE ARE PLACES WHERE THE PREDECESSORS SAID THAT IS A PARK,
PARKLAND, FOREST, WHARFAGE, DOCK.
THIS DOESN'T SAY ANY OF THAT.
THIS IS THE END OF DRYAD STREET, AND IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT IN
106 YEARS, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BUILT.
BECAUSE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, MR. YERRID, HAS PAID TO
MAINTAIN IT, MOW IT, YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS DOES LOOK
INVITING, BUT THIS IS NOT A PARK.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT LIABILITY ISSUES BOTH FOR THE CITY AND
FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARISE FROM HAVING THIS
WHAT CAN BE -- SOUNDS LIKE A BAD WORD -- ATTRACTIVE
NUISANCE.
THIS IS NOT A PARK.

IT HAS NO INSURANCE.
NO CITY MAINTENANCE OPPORTUNITIES.
THIS IS A DEAD END THAT HAPPENS TO LOOK GREEN.
BUT I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A PARK
AND NOTHING LEGALLY THAT ALLOWS THE EASEMENT TO BE EXPANDED
BEYOND THE SCOPE IN WHICH IT WAS GRANTED.
GOOD NEWS FOR THE NEIGHBORS, THERE ARE PARKS NEARBY.
THERE IS SUNSET PARK.
TWO-MINUTE BIKE RIDE.
TO BE CLEAR, TWO AND A HALF ACRES.
A LOT OF THAT IS STORMWATER FUTURE.
SIGNIFICANT GRASSY AREA CLOSE BY.
BLUE STAR IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE CITY HAS BEEN SPENDING HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO OPEN A BRAND-NEW PARK, A
THREE-MINUTE BIKE RIDE AWAY AT BAY TO BAY.
WE HELD OFF ON FILING THIS APPLICATION SO THAT IF THIS GETS
APPROVED, WE WOULD HOLD OFF ON FENCING IT.
FENCE THIS OFF UNTIL THIS NEW PARK IS OPENED.
THAT'S A PARK.
THAT'S WHAT A PARK LOOKS LIKE FOR THESE FOLKS WHO ABSOLUTELY
DESERVE TO HAVE PARK.
HEARD FROM THE CITY, OPEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES WENT INTO IT.
ANOTHER VIEW OF IT, THAT'S A PARK.

FENCE, MAINTAINED, SIDEWALKS, THAT'S WHAT A PARK LOOKS LIKE.
PARK DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE DEAD END OF A ROAD THAT'S 106
YEARS IN THE NOT MAKING.
THESE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED, VACATING
APPLICATIONS.
MEDIA ATTENTION GOING BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS.
LIKE A RENEGADE DOG PARK.
I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS TAKEN -- SCRUTINIZES THESE VACATING
REQUESTS HEAVILY.
I THINK THAT HAS BEEN TRANSLATED, STAFF'S TREATMENT OF THEM.
WE DON'T HAVE A SINGLE OBJECTION.
A LOT OF BITES AT THE APPLE WITH THE VACATINGS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE GET TO COMMENT.
AND THERE WASN'T A SINGLE OBJECTION.
NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IN OPPOSITION SOME OF THE REBUTTALS
TO THE THINGS I TRIED TO PREEMPT, BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO
IT, THIS IS A ROAD, THIS IS A PRIVATE PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS
DEDICATED, WHERE AN EASEMENT WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY FOR A
SINGULAR PURPOSE, TO FINISH DRYAD STREET.
THAT WAS NOT DONE FOR 106 YEARS, THAT IS IN THE PUBLIC
INTEREST FIRST TO PROTECT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BE IN THE PUBLIC FAVOR, BUT IT IS IN THE
PUBLIC INTEREST TO PRESERVE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, AND
THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SECOND, IT'S IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO MINIMIZE LIABILITY

RISKS FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE LIABILITY RISKS THAT CAN
EMANATE TO ADJACENT OWNERS FROM HAVING THIS UNCLEAR VOID IN
THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN IF IT IS A NICE PLACE TO
LET YOUR DOG GO TO THE RESTROOM OR KIDS THROW A BALL.
WE GET THAT.
YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THAT AGAINST THE RIGHTS THE PROPERTY
OWNER HAS OF HAVING AN ACCIDENTAL PARK FIVE FEET FROM THEIR
HOME WHEN RAISING TWO SMALL CHILDREN.
THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS RIGHTS, TOO.
FINALLY, THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS REQUEST.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THE CITY HAS HERE IS NOT
IMPERILED IN ANY WAY AND ARGUABLY WOULD BE BETTER PROTECTED
BY BEING FENCED RATHER THAN AN OPEN DEAD END FIELD.
WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THERE ARE COMMENTS.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUEST.
THANK YOU.
11:38:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION.
IF NOTHING IS GOING TO BE BUILT ON IT, WHAT IS THE NEXT
STEP, TO FENCE IT IN AND CLOSE IT OFF OR LEAVE IT WIDE OPEN?
11:38:14AM >> THE DESIRE WOULD BE TO FENCE IT.
THIS HAS BEEN OPEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
WE DON'T WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE ACCESS TO THIS
BECAUSE THE ONLY CIRCUMSTANCE IN WHICH THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS

INTENDED TO HAVE ACCESS TO THIS IS IF IT IS A ROAD.
IT'S NOT A ROAD AND NOT GOING TO BE A ROAD.
THIS COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS ROOM GET REALLY FULL, PROPOSE A
50-FOOT ROAD IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS.
THAT'S WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY WAS INTENDED.
NO STRUCTURE PROPOSED.
I THINK A PERMIT FOR THE FENCE GIVEN THE STORMWATER
INFRASTRUCTURE AND SIZE.
THERE WOULD BE SOME CITY OVERSIGHT OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT BUILDING ANYTHING.
WE'RE NOT PUTTING A HOUSE ON IT.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT HAPPENING.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY THERE AND IT'S
NECESSARY.
11:39:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. MALLOY, ARE YOU WITH MR. HUDSON OR THE OPPOSITE SIDE?
11:39:06AM >> HE'S THE OTHER SIDE.
11:39:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY CONCERN WOULD BE DEFINITION OF A FENCE,
BECAUSE OF THE CRITICAL NATURE OF THIS BEING POTENTIALLY, AS
WE SAW WITH HURRICANE HELENE FLOODING, WHERE IS THE WATER
GOING TO GO, CLEARLY THIS IS AN AREA WATER FLOWS THROUGH TO
GET TO THE BAY.
11:39:28AM >> YEAH.

THIS IS IN THE VELOCITY ZONE, I BELIEVE.
IT WILL HAVE TO GET COMMENTED ON BY NUMEROUS CITY AGENCIES.
IF THE NATURE OF THE FENCE IS SOMETHING THAT --
11:39:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF WE APPROVE THIS, IT WOULD BE OUT OF OUR
HANDS AND THEN THEY PUT UP AN IMPERMEABLE WALL.
11:39:46AM >> WELL, YOU CAN PUT CONDITIONS, ANY FENCE ERECTED THEREON
HAS TO BE WITHIN THE STORMWATER EASEMENT, STORMWATER MUST
CONSENT TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY IMPROVEMENTS THEREON.
I THINK THAT LANGUAGE MIGHT ALREADY BE IN THERE.
11:40:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE DOUBTS ON STORMWATER BECAUSE THEY
ALREADY SAID NO OBJECTION.
I HAVE DOUBTS WITH STORMWATER --
11:40:05AM >> THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE CITY'S INTEREST IN THIS
BEING A ROAD.
THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO ANY POSSIBLE FENCE CONSTRUCTED
THEREON.
WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS TO TRADE AN EASEMENT FOR A ROAD,
WHICH WILL NEVER GET BUILT BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT IN
THE LAST 106 YEARS FOR AN EASEMENT TAILORED TO WHAT IS
ACTUALLY THERE, WHICH IS STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S WHAT THE IMPROVEMENT OF THIS IS.
IF INCIDENTALLY FOLKS HAVE GROWN ACCUSTOM TO USING THE GRASS
AS IF IT WERE A PUBLIC PARK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT WILL BE
INTERRUPTED AND PEOPLE WON'T BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

THAT IS A DISPUTE THAT THIS COUNCIL, THAT YOU HAVE TO
RESOLVE.
IN OUR VIEW, IT IS NOT A CLOSE CALL.
THANKS.
11:40:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. MALLOY, YOU WILL THEN BE, JUST FOR PROCEDURAL PURPOSES,
PART OF PUBLIC COMMENT, THREE MINUTES?
11:41:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, UNLESS COUNCIL DECIDES OTHERWISE, IF
THERE IS A REQUEST.
NO, USUALLY THREE MINUTES AT THIS POINT.
11:41:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'RE NOW AT PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. MALLOY, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IN
THE ROOM AND THEN REBUTTAL.
11:41:15AM >> WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
I'M SPEAKING GENERALLY FOR THE FOLKS WHO SIGNED THE PETITION
IN OPPOSITION HERE.
IT SHOULD BE IN ALL YOUR IN-BOXES.
THERE ARE 53 SIGNATURES ON IT.
I HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO CONSIDER THAT.
IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT.
THERE ARE ALSO SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T BELONG TO THE HOA
THAT CHIMED IN, SIGNED IT AS WELL.
I BELIEVE SOME ARE HERE TO SPEAK.
FOR MY OWN CREDIBILITY, FULL DISCLOSURE, I AM A RESIDENT OF
SPANISH TOWN CREEK, OTHER SIDE OF THE PENINSULA.

IF THIS WAS HAPPENING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD BE HERE AS
A CITIZEN SAYING EXACTLY WHAT I AM.
IF THIS WERE PRIVATE PROPERTY UP FOR DEVELOPMENT, I WOULDN'T
BE HERE.
BUT THIS IS, DESPITE THE WORDSMITHING HERE, THE CITY HAS AN
INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY.
NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
WHO OWNS FEE TO IT, I'M NOT ABLE TO SPEAK TO AT THIS POINT.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPIN THROUGH MY CLIENT'S CONCERNS AND
WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO ME IN THE TIME I'VE HAD TO REVIEW
THIS.
THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS AND WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE
PUBLIC WAS THE APPLICANT HAS SECURITY CONCERNS.
I'M STRUGGLING -- I TRUST MY COLLEAGUE VERY MUCH, BUT I'M
STRUGGLING TO FIND THE NEXUS BETWEEN SECURITY CONCERNS AND
GIVE ME CONTROL OF THE DIRT.
SECURITY CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
I'D ASK FOR SUBSTANTIATION OF THE SECURITY CONCERNS.
IS TPD INVOLVED IN THIS?
IS CODE ENFORCEMENT?
HAS THIS BEEN BROUGHT TO NUISANCE AND ABATEMENT?
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT VALIDATES THIS ASSERTION THAT IT IS A
SECURITY PROBLEM?
AGAIN, I STRUGGLE TO FIND THAT NEXUS, BUT MOVING ON, WE
UNDERSTAND AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT TECO AND STORMWATER

HAVE RETAINED OR ASKED TO RETAIN PERMANENT EASEMENTS OVER
THIS PROPERTY.
PERMANENT IS NOT PERPETUAL.
THOSE EASEMENTS CAN BE VACATED OR OTHERWISE NULLIFIED.
AGAIN, IT WOULD TAKE SOME PERMISSIONS AND AN ASK, BUT IT CAN
HAPPEN.
THIS DIRT IS PRICELESS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE
CITY.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODED BADLY LAST FALL.
I'M TOLD, CAN'T SUBSTANTIATE THIS MYSELF, THAT 30% OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, PLUS OR MINUS, IS STILL DISPLACED IN SOME WAY
OR ANOTHER.
YOU CAN'T GIVE UP THIS DIRECT AVENUE, WHETHER IT TOUCHES THE
WATER OR THE PORT AUTHORITY OR NOT, TO OLD TAMPA BAY AND
HAVE THE CHANCE THAT ANY KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE STORMWATER
IS COMPROMISED.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP CONTROL OF THIS PIECE.
I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE THAT THEY DON'T INTEND
TO BUILD HERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE IN MY CLIENT'S MIND, MY MIND
AND YOU'VE SEEN IT BEFORE, THE INSTANT VISION IS AN ADU
POPPING UP IF THIS IS APPROVED.
FINALLY, TEN MORE SECONDS.
11:43:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
11:43:53AM >> THE ASSOCIATION IS MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH THE
APPLICANT TO ADDRESS SECURITY CONCERNS.

INSTALL LIGHTING, FENCING, COOPERATE IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.
I'VE GOT LETTERS TO THAT EFFECT.
I THINK THEY ARE IN YOUR IN-BOX AS WELL.
I THINK THAT'S TREMENDOUS.
THIS IS NOT AN INSTANCE OF NOT IN MY BACKYARD AS YOU HEARD
BEFORE.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO HELP.
THEY WANT TO KEEP THIS GREEN AND OPEN.
THEY WANT TO HAVE THE CITY RETAIN ITS STEWARDSHIP.
THANK YOU.
11:44:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK, LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL
AND WE'LL START GOING ONE BY ONE.
11:44:27AM >> MICHAEL RICH, NEIGHBOR IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE
REQUEST TO VACATE THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY.
HOPEFULLY YOU ALSO GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE PETITION
WHICH WE HAVE 45 DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLDS IN SUNSET PARK THAT
OPPOSE THIS MEASURE.
MICHAEL RICH.
I LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WEST DRYAD STREET, LESS THAN
ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN QUESTION.

MY PRIMARY INTEREST RELIES IN PRESERVING THIS IMPORTANT
GREENSPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I'VE LIVED ON WEST DRYAD STREET ALMOST 12 YEARS.
TWO YOUNG CHILDREN, 6 AND 2.
WE USE THE OPEN SPACE REGULARLY TO KICK A SOCCER BALL AROUND
-- MANY FAMILIES USE THE GREENSPACE AS A PLACE TO PLAY AND
RESIDENTS CAN ENJOY THE OUTDOORS.
WE KNOW IT IS NOT A PARK.
NOT HOLDING ORGANIZED SPORTS OR PARTIES, SUCH GREENSPACE IS
AN ESSENTIAL FOR THE WELL-BEING AND OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE
FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND ASHAMED TO TAKE IT AWAY.
THE NEW PARK THAT THE ATTORNEY SHOWED MOMENTS AGO IS MORE
THAN HALF A MILE AWAY.
I HAVE A TWO-YEAR-OLD AND SIX-YEAR-OLD AND NOT REALISTIC FOR
ME TO MAKE THEM RIDE THEIR LITTLE TRICYCLES HALF A MILE TO
GET TO A PARK LITTERED WITH PALM TREES.
I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT FENCING IN THIS PIECE OF LAND FOR
STORMWATER PURPOSES, BUT I'LL SKIP THAT BECAUSE HE ALREADY
ADDRESSED IT.
THERE WAS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT.
I KNOW IT SAYS NO OPPOSITION BUT CLEARLY WAS BACK AND FORTH
AND SOME LEVEL OF CONCERN.
REGARDING PRIVATE ACCESS, I'M NOT PRIVY TO WHAT THE
APPLICANT'S TRUE INTENTIONS ARE.
I KNOW THEY SAID THEY WILL FENCE IT IN AND KEEP ANYONE FROM

USING IT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS VACATING WOULD -- IT WOULD ELIMINATE
PUBLIC ACCESS FOR ANYONE ELSE.
FRANKLY, THIS DID NOT SEEM RIGHT.
I'M ALSO FRUSTRATED BY THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE OWNERSHIP
DOCUMENTS POSTED TODAY WERE NOT POSTED TO THE CITY SITE, AT
LEAST NOT IN THE LAST THREE DAYS.
I HAVE GONE THROUGH THE OWNERSHIP DOCUMENTS, ONE IN
PARTICULAR SHOWING MR. ITALIANO HAVING OWNERSHIP WAS NOT ON
THERE AT LEAST IN THE PRIOR LAST TWO DAYS, EXTREMELY
FRUSTRATING.
ALSO FRUSTRATED THAT THIS APPLICATION WAS POSTED
APPROXIMATELY 25% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE
DISPLACED FOLLOWING THE STORMS OF LAST YEAR.
REGARDING SAFETY, THE VAGUE COMMENTS ON THE APPLICATION,
QUOTE, UNQUOTE, SAFETY CONCERNS.
AS IT STANDS TODAY THIS GREENSPACE POSES NO SAFETY THREAT TO
THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I CAN THINK OF NO LEGITIMATE REASONS
WHY IT SHOULD BE SHUT OFF.
IN CLOSING, I THINK SIGNIFICANTLY BENEFITS THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY
PROVIDES TO THE COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY THE GREENSPACE
OUTWEIGH THE DESIRE FOR PRIVATE EXPANSION OR PLAIN FENCING
IT OFF WHICH I DON'T GET.
URGE CITY COUNCIL TO PRIORITIZE THE PUBLIC GOOD AND DENY
THIS REQUEST TO VACATE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
11:47:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:47:13AM >> NATALIE RIENHART.
I ALSO LIVE IN SUNSET PARK.
I WAS ALSO RAISED IN SUNSET PARK.
SO THIS PARK TO ME HAS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART.
I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT MYSELF.
IT IS A GREENSPACE.
I LIVE THERE WITH MY HUSBAND AND TWO SONS.
WE LIVE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND WE FREQUENTLY WALK BY
THIS GREENSPACE WITH OUR DOG MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.
IT'S SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL TO LOOK AT AND WE'VE ALWAYS REALLY
ADMIRED THIS AREA.
IF A FENCE WERE TO BE CREATED ALONG DUNDEE STREET, I THINK
NOT ONLY WOULD IT BE AN EYESORE FOR A WHOLE COMMUNITY BUT A
REDUCTION OF GREEN AREA FOR OUR CHILDREN TO GROW UP WITH AND
I THINK TAMPA HAS ALWAYS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAKING
SURE WE HAVE AMPLE PARKS AND GREENSPACES TO ENJOY.
SO TAKING THIS AWAY IS OF ABSOLUTELY NO RESOURCE TO OUR
ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I GREW UP WALKING BY AS A CHILD AND I
WOULD LOVE TO AFFORD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO MY CHILDREN AS

WELL.
ALSO AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS HAD SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO OUR HOME
AND OUR GARAGE FROM THE STORMS LAST YEAR, WE'RE STILL
DEALING WITH THE FALLOUT SEVEN MONTHS LATER.
SO CREATING ANY TYPE OF FENCING ALONG DUNDEE STREET, WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COULD IMPLICATE FOR ONCOMING STORMS IN
THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
WHAT TYPE OF FENCE THAT WOULD BE, IF IT WOULD CREATE A
COLLECTION OF DEBRIS ALONG THAT FENCE LINE, THAT WOULD NOT
LET WATERS GO THROUGH, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE.
IT MAKES ME FEEL SICK TO EVEN IMAGINE IF THAT WOULD MAKE
STORMWATER CONCERNS AN EVEN GREATER CONCERN FOR ONCOMING
YEARS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, TO HAVE MY VOICE HEARD ON THIS
ISSUE.
THIS GREENSPACE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY, THAT
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GREENSPACES IN.
I JUST REALLY, REALLY URGE YOU TO CONSIDER OUR STAUNCH
OPPOSITION TO THIS.
11:49:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:49:05AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:49:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
NO, NO, THAT'S NOT STANDING UP.
YES, MA'AM.
GO AHEAD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:49:16AM >> LESLEY FARRELL.
I LIVE A FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE GREENSPACE.
I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT AREA TO HAVE, SHE WAS SAYING, TO
HAVE MORE SPACES FOR NATURE.
WHEN I MOVED THERE ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO, THERE WERE MORE
PUBLIC ACCESS PLACES, AND NOW THEY SEEM TO BE -- HAVE BEEN
TAKEN AWAY.
IT'S REALLY A NICE SPACE, EVEN THOUGH LIKE A SMALL LOT, BUT
REALLY NICE ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNGER KIDS BECAUSE IT IS A
PROTECTED KIND OF AREA FOR THEM TO PLAY BALL AND THOSE KINDS
OF THINGS AS OPPOSED TO A BIGGER PARK.
IT IS THE ONLY LITTLE GREENSPACE WE HAVE IN THIS AREA.
MY GRANDSON VISITS, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE HIM THERE AND
KICK THE BALL AROUND.
A LOT OF THE HOUSES, THEY ARE BUILDING BIG HOUSES AND THEY
HAVE VERY SMALL YARDS.
I THINK THE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN DAMAGED BY THE HURRICANES
AND REBUILT, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE NEED FOR THAT AS WELL.
A LOT OF OUR STREETS DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.
IT'S A NICE PLACE ALSO TO TALK TO NEIGHBORS.

I'VE MET A LOT OF NEIGHBORS OVER THERE THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE
EVEN KNOWN.
IT IS GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
YEAH.
I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT LITTLE AREA.
11:50:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COME ON UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:50:31AM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL ROBY.
I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
I'LL TAKE THE THREE MINUTES TO READ MY E-MAIL I SUBMITTED TO
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
COUNCIL CHAIR AND MEMBERS, I HAVE LIVED IN SUNSET PARK 17
YEARS RAISING MY FAMILY ON THE QUIET STREET AND DAILY
CELEBRATING THE SUNSETS THAT GIVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ITS NAME.
THE SLIVER OF CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY, YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO
ABANDON IS THE LAST REMAINING PUBLIC GREENSPACE WE HAVE IN
OUR CORNER OF SOUTH TAMPA THAT IS CONTINUOUSLY BEING
OVERDEVELOPED.
WE ARE ASKING YOU TO RESPECTFULLY DENY THE VAC 25, A LOT OF
ZEROS AND SIX.
WHY THIS PARCEL MATTERS, COMMUNITY HEART, EACH EVENING,
DOZENS OF OUR NEIGHBORS WALK DOGS, PUSH STROLLERS AND LET
THE CHILDREN ENJOY THIS LITTLE SAFETY PATCH OF GRASS.
DURING HEAVY STORMS, AS WE'VE KNOWN IN THIS PARTICULAR

SITUATION, A LOT OF HOMES, INCLUDING MINE, WERE AFFECTED BY
HELENE WITH THE FLOODING.
I JUST MOVED BACK IN IN JANUARY.
AS WE NOW MORE AND MORE -- I'LL GO OFF THE DOCUMENT HERE,
BUT AS WE NOW GO MORE AND MORE INTO THE PROCESS OF
OVERDEVELOPING SOUTH TAMPA AS IT IS, ESPECIALLY SUNSET PARK,
WHEN I CAME HERE ORIGINALLY 17 YEARS AGO FROM GEORGIA, IT
WAS THE CHARACTER THAT DREW ME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE
OAK TREES, THE CHARACTER OF NOT ONE BIG WHITE BOX AFTER ONE
BIG WHITE BOX.
I GET IT, PROPERTY TAXES ARE A HECK OF A DEAL.
WITH THAT SAID, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IT WON'T STOP WITH A
FENCE.
THIS GUY NEXT TO IT, WE ALREADY KNOW.
I'VE LIVED THERE 17 YEARS AND WE USE THIS GREENSPACE AS A
COMMUNITY AND AS A NEIGHBORHOOD TO SIMPLY HAVE THIS SPACE
AND HAVE A VIEW OF THE SUNSET BLOCKED OUT FROM EVERYTHING
ELSE AS IT IS.
IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD.
I CHALLENGE ANYONE ON THIS COUNCIL, PLEASE COME AROUND OUR
AREA 5:30, 6:00 AT NIGHT AND LOOK AT THE FAMILY MEMBERS
WALKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WALKING THE STREET.
THIS LITTLE PIECE OF GREENSPACE IS ALL WE HAVE LEFT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE TEST IN CHAPTER 27 FOR A VACATION
THAT IS PUBLIC WILL NOT BE MATERIALLY INJURED.

LOSING OUR ONLY GREENSPACE, OUR SUNSET VIEW AND A MODEST
FLOOD BUFFER IS NOT ONLY A MINOR INJURY, IT'S PERMANENT.
ONCE THIS IS DONE, THERE IS NO TAKING IT BACK.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF FENCE, DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'LL
DO.
THAT'S JUST IT.
IT IS THE LAST SLIVER OF HOPE WE HAVE.
WITH THAT SAID, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND
ALLOWING US TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THAT.
JUST HOPEFULLY WE GET A NO ON VOTING FOR THIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL AND CHAIR.
11:53:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE?
IF NOT, STEPHANIE POYNOR WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER AND THEN
WE'LL GO TO REBUTTAL.
11:53:12AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
YOU KNOW, WE ALMOST NEVER HAVE THIS MANY FOLKS SHOW UP FOR A
VACATION, ALMOST NEVER.
BUT THIS IS TAKING STORMWATER IN.
WHY ARE WE GIVING AWAY CITY PROPERTY?
WHY SHOULD WE GIVE IT AWAY?
11:53:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S GET THE OVERHEAD.
11:53:36AM >> I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, WHY WOULD WE GIVE THIS AWAY?
THERE'S NO REASON TO GIVE IT AWAY EXCEPT FOR SOMEBODY WANTS

TO BE GREEDY.
I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE APPLICANT IS.
I REALLY DON'T CARE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
BUT IF THIS IS CITY PROPERTY AND WE HAVE TWO STORMWATER
DRAINS AND THE SEWER DRAIN, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT
ENOUGH GREENSPACE IN THE WORLD ANYMORE IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND
WE'VE GOT ALL THESE NEIGHBORS.
GUESS WHAT, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT HERE, GUESS WHO IT
BELONGS TO, ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING HERE.
IT DOESN'T BELONG TO ONE PERSON.
IT BELONGS TO THE WHOLE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT BELONGS TO THE ENTIRE CITY.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN ALLEYWAY.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I BET YOU MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS DIDN'T
KNOW THAT WAS A CITY PROPERTY THAT THEY COULD GO ON THERE
AND SIT DOWN IF THEY WANTED TO OR TAKE A NAP IF THEY WANTED
TO.
NOW WE'RE SITTING HERE AND YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF NEIGHBORS
WHO HAVE SHOWN UP.
PLENTY OF NEIGHBORS, AND I'M SORRY, BUT THIS AREA OF TOWN,
WHY WOULD WE GIVE AWAY ANYTHING?
WHY WOULD WE GIVE IT AWAY?
HOW MUCH IS IT WORTH?
HOW MUCH DOES IT ENHANCE THAT PERSONAL PROPERTY?

MUST BE A LOT BECAUSE THEY PAID THE $573.
IT'S 57 -- THEY ARE GOING TO GET THIS LOT FOR $573.
DON'T DO IT.
THIS BELONGS TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
YOU SHOULD NOT BE GIVING IT AWAY FOR $573.
THIS GUY RIGHT HERE JUST CONFIRMED I'M RIGHT.
IT'S STILL $573 THAT HE'S PAYING FOR THIS HUGE LOT IN SUNSET
PARK.
11:55:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO
SPEAK?
ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS THINKING ABOUT CONSIDERING SPEAKING?
CARROLL ANN BENNETT IS THE LAST SPEAKER BEFORE WE GO TO
REBUTTAL.
11:55:32AM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PLANT LIVE OAKS, OH, I JUST
FOUND A SPOT.
BEAUTIFUL.
PLANT A LIVE OAK.
I BET THE NEIGHBORS WOULD ACTUALLY PAY FOR A BEAUTIFUL
BENCH.
THANK YOU.
11:55:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
REBUTTAL.
MR. HUDSON, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

11:55:52AM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
A LOT OF IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO USE SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
A LOT OF IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO USE SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, IT HAS BEEN UNCONTESTED, THIS IS
PRIVATE PROPERTY.
106 YEARS AGO THEY GAVE AN EASEMENT, IF A ROAD WAS EVER
BUILT, IT WASN'T.
IT WON'T.
THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
IF I GIVE YOU A DICTIONARY AND I SAY, YOU HAVE THIS
DICTIONARY AS LONG AS YOU NEED IT, AND TEN YEARS LATER I
COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND THE DOOR IS OPEN, THE DICTIONARY IS A
DOORSTOP.
OH, YOU'RE DONE WITH THE DICTIONARY?
WELL, NO, NO, IT'S A DOORSTOP, YOU SAY.
WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE USING IT FOR.
I GAVE IT TO YOU TO BE A DICTIONARY.
NOW YOU'RE USING IT AS A DOORSTOP.
THIS ISN'T A GIVEAWAY.
THIS IS RETURNING WHAT'S BEEN OWNED FOR 106 YEARS BECAUSE
IT'S NOT BEING USED BY THE CITY IN THE ONLY MANNER IN WHICH
IT WAS DEDICATED, RIGHT-OF-WAY.
TWO SETS OF PEOPLE THAT CAN USE THE LAND -- THE OWNERS AND
THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHEN IT'S RIGHT-OF-WAY.
IT'S NOT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

IT IS NOT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
WE GET THAT IT HURTS TO LOSE THINGS, EVEN IF THEY DID NOT
BELONG TO YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE.
WE UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WHO HAVE GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO USING
THIS, EVEN IN A MANNER -- DON'T WANT TO SAY INAPPROPRIATE AS
IF ANYONE DID ANYTHING WRONG, FOLKS ACCUSTOMED TO USE IT IN
A AMERICAN NOT INTENDED, I GET THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT STING
ANY LESS WHEN IT'S TAKEN AWAY.
BUT SOMEBODY LIVES HERE.
A LOT OF FOLKS WHO USE THIS, HAVE ALL THE BENEFITS OF USING
THE PROPERTY BUT NONE OF THE BURDENS.
THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER IS RAISING TWO SMALL KIDS.
GOT AN EIGHT WEEK OLD KID.
THAT'S WHY THIS IS GETTING FILED.
TWO-YEAR-OLD AND EIGHT WEEK OLD FIVE FEET FROM WHAT'S TURNED
INTO A COMMUNITY PARK ON PRIVATE LAND.
THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
NO AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION OR -- IT'S NOT RIGHT.
THIS IS ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THAT DOES STILL MATTER.
I WAS A PHILOSOPHY MAJOR.
THERE IS THIS IDEA THAT JUSTICE IS GETTING WHAT YOU'RE DUE.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A BRAND-NEW PARK.
MAYBE IT'S NOT AS CLOSE AS IT COULD BE, MAYBE NOT A DEAD END
IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
IF YOU ALL WANT TO BUY THE LAND, THE CITY CAN MAKE AN OFFER

TO BUY THE LAND FROM THE OWNERS, IF YOU WANT TO PUT EVEN
MORE PARKS IN THE AREA IN THE CITY THAT YOU KNOW HAS A LOT
OF DEMAND FOR PARKS IN THE CITY.
THAT'S ONE OUTCOME.
BUILD A ROAD, BUY THE LAND OR ALLOW THIS LAND TO GO BACK TO
ITS ORIGINAL OWNER BECAUSE YOU'RE USING THE DICTIONARY AS A
DOOR STOP.
YOU'RE NOT USING THIS LAND AS A ROAD AND YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO.
WITH THAT, ONE OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO
SHARE A COUPLE OF WORDS.
THANKS.
11:58:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:58:44AM >> STEVE YERRID.
5005 SAN GABLE COURT.
FIRST, LET ME THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATE TIME IN LOOKING
AT THIS ISSUE.
I WANT TO DISPEL CERTAIN NOTIONS MADE ABOUT THEM.
I GUESS I'M THEM WITH REGARD TO GREED, I'LL STAND ON MY
REPUTATION.
I DON'T DISPUTE WHAT THE LADY SAID ABOUT THE FIVE HUNDRED
AND SOME DOLLARS.
I'VE LIVED IN SUNSET PARK SINCE 1966.
I HAVE MOWED THAT YARD, THAT GRASS THAT LOT WHICH IS GOING

TO CONTINUE TO BE A LOT AND HOPEFULLY PUT IRRIGATION AND GET
GOOD GRASS IN THERE SINCE I GUESS ABOUT 38 YEARS, SOMETHING
LIKE THAT.
PEOPLE TALK VERY EASILY ABOUT SAFETY CONCERNS.
WELL, YOU CAN PUT UP SIGNS, LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.
I THINK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA KNOWS ME QUITE WELL, I'VE NOW
BECOME A GRANDFATHER.
I'VE A THREE-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON AND A SEVEN WEEK OLD
GRANDDAUGHTER.
THERE'S ABOUT THAT HIGH OF CONCRETE WALL SEPARATING MY SON'S
HOUSE AND HIS FAMILY FROM THAT LOT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE PEOPLE GO AT NIGHT, BUT I CAN TELL
YOU 1:00, 2:00 IN THE MORNING, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A
SIGN THAT WILL ALLEVIATE MY SECURITY CONCERNS.
HAD THAT LOT BEEN USED BY ANYBODY, I HOPE I'M UNDER OATH,
I'VE NEVER SEEN A KAYAKER, NEVER SEEN A FISHERMAN.
ALL I'VE SEEN IS PEOPLE USING THAT FOR DOG -- WELL, TO DO
THE BUSINESS OF DOGS.
DO KIDS PASS BALL THERE?
I HOPE SO.
THAT'S WHY I URGED THE CITY TO BUILD THE PARK DOWN BY
WESTSHORE AND DUNDEE.
I PLEADED WITH THE CITY.
WE NEEDED THAT PARK.
THAT PARK IS HALF A MILE AWAY IS FOUR BLOCKS AWAY.

IF YOU HAVE ANY STAMINA AT ALL, YOU CAN MAKE THE LONG WALK
AND ENTER A BEAUTIFUL PARK THAT IS SECURE AND SAFE.
I DON'T WANT ANYTHING FOR NOTHING.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE SOME PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE THIS
OUT TO BE.
I WANT SECURITY AND PEACE OF MIND OVER A LOT THAT IS NO USE
TO ANYBODY EXCEPT OUR SECURITY AND NOMINATE.
WON'T BUILD A HIGH-RISE THERE.
YOU HAVE MY WORD ON THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:00:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THAT CONCLUDES THE HEARING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
12:01:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR ATTORNEY.
CAN YOU GIVE ME THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN AN EASEMENT AND A
RIGHT-OF-WAY?
12:01:20PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
A RIGHT-OF-WAY IS LIKE A SUPER EASEMENT.
IT CAN BE USED FOR MULTIPLE PURPOSES SUCH AS MOBILITY AND
UTILITIES.
AN EASEMENT IS MUCH MORE LIMITED TO A SPECIFIC PURPOSE FOR
WHICH IT HAS GIVEN THE EASEMENT, SUCH AS A WATER EASEMENT OR
STORMWATER EASEMENT.
BUT IT'S JUST LIMITED TO THAT PURPOSE.

A RIGHT-OF-WAY CAN BE USED FOR MULTIPLE PURPOSES, BUT NOT A
PARK.
NOT INTENDED TO BE USED AS A PARK.
12:01:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:01:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:01:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OUR ATTORNEY DISTRIBUTED A MEMO FROM A
SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY DATED APRIL 5, 2011,
REFERENCING THAT SUPER EASEMENT YOU JUST SPOKE OF.
ONE OF THE CLARIFICATIONS WAS THAT IT IS A SUPER EASEMENT
AND USED FOR A VARIETY OF PUBLIC PURPOSES AND THEN IT USES
DIFFERENT EXAMPLES.
THEN IT SAYS OR OTHER SIMILAR USES FOR THE PUBLIC WELFARE.
12:02:28PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
A RIGHT-OF-WAY IS MOSTLY INTENDED FOR
MOBILITY PURPOSES FOR SIDEWALK --
12:02:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS SAYS AND THIS IS FROM
CITY STAFF.
12:02:37PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
I KNOW THE MEMO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
12:02:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
APRIL 5, 2011.
12:02:43PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
I DEFINITELY HAVE IT.
BEAR WITH ME.
FOR OTHER SIMILAR USES FOR THE PUBLIC WELFARE, WHAT I HAVE
SEEN IN MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT PARKS ARE VERY SPECIFICALLY
IDENTIFIED FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
YOU CAN'T REALLY PLAY IN A PARK WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A

RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:03:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU CAN THROW OUT THE WORD PARK.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC USE.
12:03:08PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
GREENSPACE THEN.
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
YOU DO HAVE MEDIANS.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT A GREENSPACE POSSIBLY?
AGAIN, A RIGHT-OF-WAY IS NOT REALLY INTENDED FOR
RECREATIONAL USE.
IT'S USED FOR MOBILITY AND UTILITIES.
12:03:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT WOULD YOU DEFINE PUBLIC WELFARE?
12:03:24PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
I DID NOT WRITE THIS MEMO.
I CANNOT MAKE HER ARGUMENT FOR HER.
IT IS A GOOD MEMO.
12:03:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GOOD ANSWER YOU GAVE.
I JUST WANT TO CLEAR UP MY MIND.
YOU HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY SOMEONE OTHER
THAN THE CITY, AM I CORRECT?
12:03:44PM >> YES.
12:03:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEN WE HAVE A RIGHT-OF-WAY THROUGH THE
PROPERTY, AM I CORRECT?
12:03:49PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
YES.
12:03:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOW BIG IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND HOW MUCH
LAND ON BOTH SIDES OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY?
12:03:56PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS TYPICALLY DELINEATED BY

THE PLAT AND SHOWS THE DIMENSION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, THE
WIDTH, LENGTH, AND WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE POSITIONS.
12:04:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE PLAT.
I JUST WANT TO SEE.
12:04:13PM >> THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS 50 FEET.
12:04:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I ONLY CAN REMEMBER ONE ITEM THAT WE DID
BACK IN THE '70s OR '80s.
I WASN'T HERE IN THE '80s AND EARLY '90s.
IT WAS A RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WAS USED AND IT CAME TO AN
AGREEMENT, THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE LAND, BUT UNDER THAT
OWNERSHIP, THERE WAS A BIG SEWER LINE THAT RAN ACROSS THE
PROPERTY.
UNBEKNOWNST TO ANYONE, THEY GAVE THEM A PERMIT TO BUILD, AND
HE BUILT.
AND THEN REALIZED THAT UNDER THAT LINE WAS A CITY BIG THING.
SO YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S BUILT ON HIS PROPERTY, BUT
UNDER THE CENTER OF THAT BUILDING WAS A RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE
CITY.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO SPECIFICS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO
START ANOTHER DEBATE.
THAT WAS SOLVED THAT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY SAID AT ANY
TIME AGREED WITH THE CITY THAT AT ANY TIME THERE WAS A
BLOCKAGE THERE -- I'M NOT USING THAT TO -- THIS CASE.
THINGS DO HAPPEN UNDER THE CONTROL OF NO ONE.
THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS GIVEN.

THE OWNER AGREED TO ANYTIME THE CITY HAD TO GO AND DO ANY
WORK ON THAT LINE AT THAT TIME, HE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
OPENING AND CLOSING THE LINE IF THE CITY DID THE WORK.
TO STOP WHATEVER IT WAS, THE DRAINAGE OR WHATEVER HAPPENED
OR THE PIPE BROKE OR WHATEVER.
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN USED, NOT BEEN
USED BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I CAN TELL BY THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES THAT I GOT, BUT THE
PROPERTY IS NOT OWNED BY THE CITY TOTALLY.
UNDER THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, AM I CORRECT?
12:05:56PM >> THE CITY HAS A RIGHT-OF-WAY INTEREST WHICH IS WHAT I SAID
IS A SUPER EASEMENT.
WE DO NOT OWN THE UNDERLYING --
12:06:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU JUST HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY UNDER IT.
12:06:07PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
RIGHT-OF-WAY INTEREST.
SOMEONE ELSE OWNS THE FEE.
I CAN'T MAKE A REPRESENTATION AS TO WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE
FEE.
12:06:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE CITY DOESN'T OWN ANY PART OF THAT
PROPERTY?
12:06:19PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
SOMETIMES THEY DO OWN THE UNDERLYING FEE
BECAUSE THEY GET A DEED.
MOST CASES WE DO NOT OWN THE UNDERLYING FEE.
WE HAVE A RIGHT-OF-WAY INTEREST ON TOP OF THE FEE WHICH IS

MORE BUSINESS --
12:06:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DO WE OWN THAT LAND OR NOT?
12:06:35PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
WE DO NOT OWN IT IN FEE, NO, SIR.
12:06:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT ONE INCH OF IT?
12:06:40PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
I HAVE NO INFORMATION TO INDICATE THAT AT
ALL.
IN FACT, MR. HUDSON HAS MENTIONED THAT HE HAS TITLE WORK ON
THIS AND IT CLEARLY ESTABLISHES THAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE
ANY FEE SIMPLE INTEREST IN THIS.
I'M NOT SURE IF I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION RIGHT.
12:07:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:07:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK FOR CLARIFICATION, I THINK WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH
IS ACCESS.
A SUPER EASEMENT, INCLUDING THE GRASS, ABOVE AND BELOW
GROUND.
UTILITY EASEMENTS BELOW THE GROUND AND THE PUBLIC HAS VIA
THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS AN INTEREST TO HAVE A RIGHT-OF-WAY TO
BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE AS IT
PRESENTLY STANDS, CORRECT?
12:07:31PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
CORRECT.
12:07:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THAT IS THE ISSUE.
BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAS USED THIS, ISN'T THERE SOMETHING
ABOUT PUBLIC USE FOR SO MANY YEARS -- INTEREST TO THAT
PROPERTY BECOMES KIND OF LOCKED IN BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS

BEEN USED IN SUCH A WAY FOR SO MANY DECADES OR SO MANY
YEARS?
12:07:56PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO LEGAL PRECEDENT FOR THE NOTION THAT
NO MATTER HOW LONG THAT DECADES OF USE -- INCONSISTENT WITH
THAT EASEMENT CHANGES THE NATURE OF IT.
REAL ESTATE LAW DOES NOT CHANGE VERY MUCH AND THAT IS A
BEDROCK COMPONENT OF REAL ESTATE COMMON LAW.
YOU MIGHT BE REFERRING TO THE NOTION OF ADVERSE POSSESSION,
WHICH IS SORT OF THE IDEA OF SQUATTER RIGHTS.
FAIRLY USELESS PIECE OF LAW SCHOOL ALTERNATIVE I CAN'T.
IF YOU ASK ME, YOU DON'T SEE THAT VERY OFTEN.
THAT REQUIRES PROPERTY TAXES, OPEN AND NOTORIOUS POSSESSION.
NONE OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PAYING PROPERTY TAXES ON IT.
12:08:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THE APPLICANT, WHAT IS THE TAX
STRUCTURE?
EDUCATE ME.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR.
WHAT IS THE TAX STRUCTURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT?
12:08:48PM >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS TAXED AT ALL.
IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE VACATING, AUTOMATICALLY THAT
RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CUT IN HALF TO A NORTHERN HEMISPHERE AND
SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE, EACH BEARING 25 FEET OF WIDTH.

AUTOMATICALLY GET JOINED TO THE LOTS ADJACENT.
JANUARY 1st OF 2026 CHANGE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE
PARCELS AND THEN IT WOULD BE ON THE ROLLS.
12:09:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE INTEREST THAT YOUR APPLICANT HAS ON
THIS -- HE HAS NOT BEEN PAYING TAXES ON IT.
HISTORICALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN
THE PROPERTY LIKE ALLEYS.
BUT NOT PAYING PROPERTY TAXES ON IT.
12:09:31PM >> HE HAS BEEN BEARING THE BURDEN OF MAINTENANCE AND
ENORMOUS RISK OF LIABILITY AND THAT'S JUST BEEN --
12:09:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LOVE WHAT THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION
ATTORNEY SAID THAT DIRT IS PRICELESS, ESPECIALLY IN THIS
PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT IS THE COST OF DIRT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD?
IT'S GOT TO BE AN EXPENSIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
12:09:52PM >> IT'S EXPENSIVE.
THERE IS A LOT OF TRAGIC CHANGE HAPPENING IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND TAMPA BECAUSE
OF THE STORMS.
THAT IS SOMETHING, BUT, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE GOING IN THE
DIRECTION THAT THERE'S COMPENSATION DUE, THIS IS PRIVATE
LAND.
THIS IS PRIVATE LAND.
IMPOSING SOME TYPE OF COST ON THE PROPERTY OWNER TO GET
THEIR LAND BACK, TO FREE THEM OF AN EASEMENT NO ONE IS

USING, THAT IS ILLEGAL EXACTION.
IF THE CITY OWNED FEE SIMPLE TO THE LAND, TOTAL DIFFERENT
STORY AND THEN APPRAISAL TIME.
SOMETHING THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN VIGILANT ABOUT IN DIFFERENT
CIRCUMSTANCES, I.E., WHERE THE CITY OWNS LAND.
THE CITY DOES NOT OWN THIS LAND.
THE CITY DOES HAVE A RIGHT AS ESSENTIALLY TRUSTEE OF THE
GENERAL PUBLIC TO CONSTRUCT A ROAD HERE.
CONSTRUCT RIGHT-OF-WAY HERE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
THE TERMINUS OF DRYAD STREET.
IF THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PARK OR GREENSPACE, THEY HAD THE
WORD PARK IN 1919 AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO LABELED.
JUST LIKE DOCKS LABELED IN THE 1900s, WHARFS IN THE
1880s.
THIS IS THE END OF THE ROAD AND LIKE THIS FOR 106 YEARS.
WE NEED TO BRING THIS TO A CLOSE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
12:11:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:11:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IS THIS LAND BUILDABLE IN ANY WAY?
12:11:11PM >> NOT BECAUSE OF THE STORMWATER EASEMENT.
12:11:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU CANNOT ENCROACH FROM EITHER SIDE TO
BUILD SOMETHING.
12:11:20PM >> I'LL SHOW YOU THE EASEMENT TERMS.
GET MOBILITY'S PERMISSION TO DO ANY TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT

STRUCTURE.
WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
THIS IS NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
SWORE IN EARLIER.
THERE'S NOT BEEN A SINGLE WORD ABOUT PUTTING A STRUCTURE
HERE.
NO ONE WANTS TO PUT A STRUCTURE.
WANT TO PUT A FENCE BECAUSE IT IS PRIVATE LAND AND DON'T
WANT IT TO BE A COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE.
I REALIZE THAT'S UNPOPULAR WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT NOT GOING
TO BE OBTUSE WITH YOU.
WE DON'T WANT THE COMMUNITY TO USE THE LAND.
IT'S PRIVATE AND NOT USING AS RIGHT-OF-WAY.
ANY SUGGESTION ON LANGUAGE, COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, HAPPY TO
ENTERTAIN THAT.
TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS AN EASEMENT NOT JUST OVER THE GRAVITY
MAIN THAT EMPTIES OUT BELOW DUNDEE STREET INTO OLD TAMPA
BAY, IT'S OVER THE WHOLE LAND.
12:12:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU CAN'T EVEN BUILD A WALL ACROSS THE
FRONT OF IT, EVEN THOUGH LINES UNDER YOU.
12:12:20PM >> NO.
NO PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY STRUCTURES.
12:12:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LAND DOESN'T CHANGE AT ALL.
STAYS THE WAY IT IS.
12:12:25PM >> STAYS THE WAY IT IS, JUST A FENCE INSTALLED IN SOME WAY

THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO CONSENT TO.
IT IS A PERMANENT OR TEMPORARILY STRUCTURE.
COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, WE CAN ADD FENCE.
THE CITY WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS.
THE STORY THAT YOU SHARED ABOUT SOMEONE BUILDING A HOUSE
OVER A STORMWATER EASEMENT, THAT'S WILD.
THAT'S INCOMPREHENSIBLE IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
THIS IS A GRAVITY MAIN.
NOT LIKE A THREE INCH WATER PIPE.
12:12:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER.
12:12:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT CASE.
I NEVER HEARD ONE LIKE THIS.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT BETWEEN YOURSELF,
THE CLIENT AND THE CITY THAT IT REMAINS THE SAME.
THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT AND WE'LL MOW AND CLEAN THE
PLACE.
12:13:10PM >> THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME.
12:13:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TRYING TO FIND A REMEDY.
12:13:15PM >> APPRECIATE IT.
I DON'T LIKE TO COME HERE.
I DON'T THINK MY CLIENTS LIKE TO COME HERE AND BE ADVERSE TO
YOUR NEIGHBORS.
NO ONE LIKES THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE SEEING MORE OF THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE
THE ROLE OF ARBITRATING PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

ESPECIALLY IN A CITY GROWING.
OUR POSITION IS BASED ON WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
AND THE LAW SAYS THIS IS PRIVATE LAND.
IT IS SUBJECT TO AN EASEMENT THAT THE CITY IS NOT USING, AND
WE ARE WILLING TO ESSENTIALLY EXCHANGE THAT EASEMENT FOR
RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH THE CITY IS NOT USING FOR AN EASEMENT
FOR STORMWATER, WHICH THE CITY ABSOLUTELY DOES NEED.
AND WE HAVE NO QUALM WITH THAT.
BUT WE DO NOT WANT THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY PARK BECAUSE IT IS
PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I THINK THAT IS AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST TO PLACE UPON ANY
CITIZEN OF TAMPA AND THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
12:14:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYTHING FURTHER?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:14:12PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA THAT WAS ASKING ABOUT
WHAT CAN BE BUILT THERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ELMO THAT THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES THAT
NO PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY STRUCTURES OTHER THAN PAVEMENT AND
CURBING SHALL BE ALLOWED TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON OR OVER OR
UNDER THE VACATED RIGHT-OF-WAY AND NO LANDSCAPING OTHER THAN
GRASS OR SMALL SHRUBBERY SHALL BE ALLOWED TO BE PLANTED
WITHIN THE VACATED RIGHT-OF-WAY WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN
CONSENT OF THE CITY'S MOBILITY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

SO IF AND WHEN THEY DECIDE TO REQUEST THE INSTALLATION OF A
FENCE, THEY WILL NEED TO GO TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE
STORMWATER DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION, RATHER, AND GET THEIR
WRITTEN PERMISSION.
THAT DOESN'T, OF COURSE, HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER
THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PERMIT OR NOT.
BUT THE DIRECTOR IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AMPLE
OPPORTUNITY AND ACCESS TO THE EASEMENT AREA, BOTH IN TIMES
OF EMERGENCY OR REGULAR MAINTENANCE.
SO THERE WILL BE PROBABLY A GATE THERE.
COULD BE A LOCK BOX, COULD BE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE
DIRECTOR WOULD CONSIDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS OPEN
ACCESS FOR OUR STAFF TO MAINTAIN THE EASEMENT AREA, AS FAR
AS OUR FACILITIES ARE LOCATED IN THAT AREA.
12:15:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND CLENDENIN AND
HURTAK.
12:15:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT
TITLE.
ISN'T IT UNUSUAL THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CONFIRM
OFFICIALLY WHO HAS TITLE OF A PROPERTY?
I KNOW YOU SAID THE APPLICANT HAS PUT UP TITLE WORK, BUT IF
THE CITY DOESN'T CONFIRM, WHAT LEGAL AUTHORITY DOES CONFIRM
WHO HAS, IF THERE'S SOME DISPUTE AFTER WE MAKE THIS
DECISION, WHO WOULD BE THE FINAL WORD ON WHO HAS TITLE?
12:16:00PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
ULTIMATELY IT WOULD BE A COURT OF LAW THAT

WOULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AS TO WHO OWNS THE UNDERLYING
FEE.
POSSIBLY COULD BE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, BUT I
CAN'T CONFIRM OR BE SURE OF THAT.
THE CITY IS NOT IN A POSITION TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
IT BECOMES IN ESSENCE A PRIVATE PROPERTY MATTER THAT IS UP
TO THEM TO RESOLVE LEGALLY.
AGAIN, WITH THIS ORDINANCE, WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THE
UNDERLYING FEE.
WHATEVER THAT IS TODAY WILL BE THE SAME WAY TOMORROW.
12:16:31PM >> SECTION 92 OF THIS EASEMENT SAYS THAT IF THE CITY OWNS
THE TITLE THAN WE OUGHT TO BUY IT.
ALWAYS SET UP THAT WAY.
HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENT WE OWN IT, BUT THERE IS A BACKSTOP
IN THERE.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE APPROVAL OF THIS CHANGES THE TITLE.
IT RELEASES OR RELINQUISHES AN EASEMENT AREN'T USING.
THE ORDINANCE DOES ADDRESS THAT.
12:16:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:16:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. WIGGINTON, WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO VACATE
STORMWATER?
SAY ANY PROPERTY, THERE IS A STORMWATER --
12:17:10PM >> EASEMENT.
12:17:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ON IT BUT SOMEBODY FILES TO VACATE THE
STORMWATER.

12:17:15PM >> THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT GROWTH MANAGEMENT
DEPARTMENT AND FILE AN APPLICATION TO RELEASE THE EASEMENT.
YOU CAN RELEASE THE ENTIRE EASEMENT OR RELEASE A PORTION OF
THE EASEMENT BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN ESTABLISH THAT EASEMENT IS
NO LONGER BEING USED TODAY AND NO FUTURE NEED FOR THE
EASEMENT.
12:17:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT THAT IS SOLELY ADMINISTRATIVE.
12:17:32PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
NO, IT GOES BEFORE YOU TYPICALLY ON YOUR
CONSENT AGENDA.
YOU'LL SEE A RELEASE OF EASEMENTS.
PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THOSE MANY TIMES.
12:17:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
12:17:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, DID YOU WANT
TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MR. SHELBY.
12:17:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'D ASK IF
MR. HUDSON HAS ANY FINAL COMMENTS BECAUSE THERE WAS NOR
TESTIMONY TAKEN.
HE HAD BEEN ADDRESSING IT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY
CLOSING STATEMENTS, PLEASE DO SO NOW.
12:18:00PM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
HOPEFULLY NOT PAST THE POINT OF HUMOR.
THIS IS THE END OF THE ROAD.
WE HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND PATIENT CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU.
12:18:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OBSERVATIONS.
12:18:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA TO CLOSE.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
12:18:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE I'M A BIG
PROPERTY RIGHTS GUY, BUT I FIND THAT THE PUBLIC INTEREST,
AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN IN LIGHT OF THIS MEMORANDUM THAT WAS
ISSUED BY OUR SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY ON APRIL 5,
2011, ON THE REVIEW OF APPLICANTS FOR VACATION OF
RIGHT-OF-WAY, IT'S PRETTY COMPELLING.
AGAIN, LOOKING AT, ONE, THE TESTIMONY THAT THE PUBLIC HAS
PROVIDED ABOUT THE PUBLIC USE AND THE DEFINITIONS OF WHAT
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS FOR PUBLIC USE, I MEAN, IT SEEMS CLEAR
THAT THE PUBLIC IS USING THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH
WHAT THE INTENT OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS.
AND IN THIS MEMO, IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T READ IT, SAYS CITY
COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA WHEN DECIDING
ON AN APPLICATION TO VACATE A RIGHT-OF-WAY BASED ON THE
REPORTS AND EVIDENCE PRESENTED, IS IN THE INTEREST OF THE
GENERAL WELFARE TO VACATE THE SUBJECT STREET OR ALLEY, I
THINK THAT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

ALSO, LIKE I SAID EARLIER IN OUR CONVERSATIONS, THIS IS
CONSIDERED A SUPER EASEMENT AND THAT A SUPER EASEMENT IS --
ONE OF THE USES IS PUBLIC WELFARE.
I THINK IT WAS CLEARLY ESTABLISHED IN THE TESTIMONY BY THE
FOLKS THAT CAME BEFORE US TODAY THAT PUBLIC WELFARE IS AN
INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS COMPLETELY ALIGNED WITH
WHAT THE PURPOSE OF A RIGHT-OF-WAY IS.
I'M NOT -- AGAIN, I'M A BIG PERSONAL PROPERTY GUY.
I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, BUT I'M NOT
ALSO SEEING THE INTEREST -- THERE WAS TESTIMONY ABOUT PUBLIC
SAFETY AND ALL.
I'M NOT GETTING IT.
IF THEY COULD SECURE THEIR OWN PROPERTY AND WE HAVE THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT THERE WAS
SOMETHING THERE, I KNOW WE MADE EXCEPTIONS FOR PROPERTIES
WITH FENCE HEIGHTS IN THE PAST, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY
COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE PRESENTED TODAY ABOUT PUBLIC
SAFETY CONCERNS.
I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS VACATION FOR THAT PURPOSE.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE OPPOSITION, AND THE FOLKS FROM
THE NEIGHBORHOOD MADE A COMPELLING CASE.
I'LL VOTE AGAINST IT.
12:20:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
IT'S FUNNY.
A LOT OF TIMES IN CASES I ALWAYS SAY THERE'S BLACK AND WHITE

AND THEN GRAY, THE THINGS IN THE MIDDLE.
ON THIS, I'LL BE HONEST, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, I SEE IT
A DIFFERENT WAY, WHICH IS THAT, LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC AND I
UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THE ISSUES COMING, BUT ULTIMATELY THE
RELIEF PROPOSED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHICH IS MORE
INCREMENTAL IN NATURE I DON'T THINK DOES ENOUGH TO OVERCOME
THE VERY REASONABLE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE WITH
REGARDS TO PRIVACY LAWS, LIABILITY ISSUES, SECURITY ISSUES
AND SO FORTH.
THIS IS ONE THAT I THINK FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER HITS FAR TOO
CLOSE TO HOME.
THE IDEA THAT THIS IS -- A PARK, OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T THINK
ANYONE IS PROPOSING THAT IN TERMS OF THIS BEING SEEN AS A
PARK, EVEN A GREENSPACE WITH PUBLIC BENEFIT, I RESPECTFULLY
DON'T SEE THAT, GIVEN THE DETRIMENT BY THE PROPERTY OWNER
ULTIMATELY.
FOR ME, AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, WELL, WE CAN HAVE
INCREMENTAL MEASURES THAT WILL HELP THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH
THEIR CONCERNS, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE
INCREMENTALLY TO OVERCOME THE VERY LEGITIMATE AND REASONABLE
COMPLAINTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE.
THAT'S HOW I'LL BE PROPOSING HERE TODAY.
12:21:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:21:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ONE OTHER THING.
I WOULD ASSUME, WHICHEVER WAY THIS GOES, THAT THE PROPERTY

OWNER STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT A WALL IN FRONT OF THE
INGRESS, NO?
SO IT STAYS THE WAY IT IS.
12:22:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
12:22:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, I DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE HEARING
AGAIN.
12:22:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:22:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KIND OF DEFERRED IT BECAUSE COUNCILMAN
VIERA IS AN ATTORNEY AND I AM NOT.
QUERYING ABOUT YOUR -- THE STATEMENT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY
ISSUE, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT PRIVACY, BUT PUBLIC
SAFETY.
OTHER THAN STATEMENT OF THE APPLICANT THAT HE HAD CONCERNS,
THERE WASN'T REALLY ANY EVIDENCE SUGGESTING THAT THERE WAS
ANYTHING THERE OTHER THAN JUST A STATEMENT THAT HE'S
CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE ARE STANDING NEXT TO HIS PROPERTY.
12:22:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH.
AGAIN, IN RISK MANAGEMENT AND LIABILITY, THERE'S ALWAYS THE
POSSIBILITY THAT SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN WITH SO MANY PEOPLE
GOING NEAR THE HOME.
I DO THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE CONCERN.
THERE IS A REASONABLE CONCERN.
12:22:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONLY REASONABLE CONCERN BECAUSE SOUTH
TAMPA AND NOT EAST TAMPA?
12:23:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO, NO, NO.

12:23:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT SEEMS LIKE A SOUTH TAMPA THING.
12:23:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LOOK, MY VOTES, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT
TONS OF DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE CITY
COUNCIL, I WON'T CITE THEM BECAUSE SOME ARE IN LITIGATION, I
GO ACCORDING TO WHAT I THINK THE LAW IS.
12:23:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY --
12:23:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M NOT A LAND USE ATTORNEY.
I'M NOT A LAND USE ATTORNEY AT ALL.
IN FACT, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF 6-1 VOTES WHERE I DO
THINGS THAT SOUTH TAMPA PROBABLY DOESN'T LIKE BECAUSE AS I
ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, I DON'T WRITE POLITICAL -- STRIKE THAT I
DON'T WRITE CHECKS THAT I THINK WILL BOUNCE LATER WHEN TAKEN
TO CIRCUIT COURT THROUGH APPEAL.
THAT'S BEEN MY POSITION.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S SOUTH TAMPA.
12:23:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN FOR THE SAKE OF COUNCIL, REMINDING
YOU THAT THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER AND IT IS NOT
QUASI-JUDICIAL.
IT IS A FAIRLY DEBATABLE STANDARD AND DOES NOT REQUIRE A
FINDING OF COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN A CASE.
12:24:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS SOON AS I SAID THAT, I REALIZED THAT.
12:24:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL GAVE IT
THE PROPER REVIEW.
12:24:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

I BELIEVE EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:24:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT
PERSON TO SEE IF THEY'LL READ IT.
I'M GLAD TO READ IT.
12:24:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE NEXT PERSON WAS HURTAK.
NO, IT GOES BACK TO MIRANDA BECAUSE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF
NO VOTES AND I SWITCHED OVER.
DO YOU WISH TO READ IT, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA?
12:24:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL PASS.
12:24:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:24:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A
PORTION OF WEST DRYAD STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF
SAN GABLE COURT, SOUTH OF SAN MIGUEL STREET, EAST OF OLD
TAMPA BAY AND WEST OF DUNDEE STREET WITHIN THE PLAT OF
SUNSET CAMP SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2
HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING
CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:25:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:25:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
12:25:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SECOND.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
12:25:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
12:25:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
12:25:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
12:25:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
12:25:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:25:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:25:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
12:25:49PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION FAILED WITH CARLSON, HURTAK,
CLENDENIN, AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
12:25:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU NEED A MOTION OF DENIAL OR IS
THAT SUFFICIENT, MR. SHELBY?
12:25:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS BEING A REQUEST FOR SOMETHING RELATED
TO PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, I WOULD SUSPECT -- MS. JOHNSON
VELEZ, WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO DENY?
TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS APPLICATION REQUIRES BY YOUR CHARTER
AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF 4.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE A MOTION TO DENY WOULD GIVE YOU THAT
IF IT PASSES.
12:26:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE A MOTION TO DENY FILE
VAC-25-06?
12:26:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.

12:26:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO DENY FILE VAC-25-06.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:26:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
12:26:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:26:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:26:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:26:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO.
12:26:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
12:26:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:26:48PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, HENDERSON, AND
VIERA VOTING NO.
12:26:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH, ITEM 62 WHICH SHOULD NOT BE VERY
LONG REGARDING THE ENCORE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
WHO IS PRESENTING ON 62?
IF THERE'S NO ONE HERE, WE'LL WAIT UNTIL LATER.
YES, MA'AM.
12:27:12PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A PROPOSED FIRST READING FOR AN ORDINANCE --
12:27:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF WE COULD PLEASE LEAVE QUIETLY, WE ARE
STILL IN THE MEETING.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
YES, MA'AM.

GO AHEAD.
12:27:29PM >> GOOD MORNING.
EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING TO AMEND THE
BOUNDARIES OF THE ENCORE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
WE HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HERE, SARAH, SHOULD
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:27:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
YOU HAVE TO COME UP AND SPEAK IF YOU DO BECAUSE OF THE
MICROPHONE AND THE CLOSED CAPTIONING.
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:27:59PM >> HI.
SARAH SANDY, KUTAK ROCK, 107 WEST COLLEGE AVENUE IN
TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA, REPRESENTING THE ENCORE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO PRESENT, BUT HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY.
12:28:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:28:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
STUPID QUESTION.
WHAT LAW FIRM DO YOU WORK FOR?
12:28:21PM >> KUTAK ROCK.
12:28:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON 62?
NO, MA'AM.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:28:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, DO YOU HAVE A MAP THAT
SHOWS THIS?
12:28:43PM >> I THINK I DO.
IT WAS PART OF OUR PETITION.
12:28:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, AGAIN, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC SEEING.
12:29:00PM >> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ONE IS NOT IN COLOR, LITTLE HARDER
TO SEE.
YOU CAN SEE VERY SMALL, THE AREA BEING ADDED.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL AREAS ADDED TO THE BOUNDARY
AS WELL.
PART OF CORRECTING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WAS UPDATED
IN 2014 AFTER THE CDD WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 2010.
IT'S BRINGING THOSE TWO BOUNDARIES INTO ALIGNMENT.
12:29:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
12:29:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE?
LET'S DO A MOTION TO CLOSE --
12:29:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY.
YOU HAD A REQUEST -- COUNCIL'S REQUEST IS TO ASK IF ANYBODY
WANTED TO SPEAK TO IT?
12:29:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DID.
ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON 62?

MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 62?
12:29:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES, SIR.
I MOVE FILE E2010-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE
NUMBER 2010-129 WHICH ESTABLISHED THE ENCORE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE
GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT PURSUANT TO SECTION
190.046, PROVIDING FOR ALL OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS TO
REMAIN UNCHANGED, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT AND SEVERABILITY,
AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:30:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
CONGRATULATIONS.
12:30:40PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025, AT
10 A.M. IN OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD

FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
12:30:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY.
12:30:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
[INAUDIBLE]
12:31:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I NEED YOUR MICROPHONE ON, SIR.
12:31:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WOULD HELP.
THANK YOU.
ITEM 61 TO RECALL TO CORRECT THE DATE, PLEASE.
A MOTION TO AMEND COUNCIL'S MOTION TO SET THE CORRECT DATE
OF JUNE 26, 2025.
12:31:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
12:31:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:31:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU LIKE
FOR LUNCH.
IT'S 12:31.
DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK AT 2:00 OR 1:45?
1:45.
2:00.
2:00 WE'LL BE BACK.
WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL 2.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

02:06:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
ORDER.
AT THIS TIME, ROLL CALL.
02:06:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
02:06:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
02:06:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
02:06:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
02:06:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
02:06:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
02:06:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
02:06:17PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
02:06:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 64.
NO STAFF WAS REQUESTED.
THERE WAS A -- IS THERE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TRANSMITTED BY
BRAD BAIRD?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:06:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL MOVE 64 AND 68.
02:06:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FOR 64 AND 68.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 65.
YES, WE ASKED STAFF TO BE PRESENT.
WE HAD A MEMO FROM ADRI COLINA TRANSMITTING ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION FOR SAID AGENDA ITEM.
IS SHE ONLINE OR NO?
THERE SHE IS.
ITEM NUMBER 65.
02:07:07PM >>ADRIANA COLINA:
YES, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
ADRI COLINA, DIRECTOR OF ASSET MANAGEMENT.
HERE ON ITEM 65 WHICH IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR -- WELL,
FIRST DISCUSSING AND REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR A $40 MILLION
AGREEMENT WITH A CONTRACT WITH PARKS.
A FOUR-YEAR CONTRACT WHICH SPANS FIVE YEAR.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
02:07:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER?
I SEE NONE.
YES, SIR?
02:07:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK PROBABLY ALL OF US PROBABLY
INCLUDING YOURSELF WHEN YOU SEE THAT FOR AUTO PARTS, YOU
THINK, MY GOODNESS.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU CAN GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE
INFORMATION.
WHY THAT -- IS THAT IN LINE WITH PAST USAGE AND
PREDICTABILITY?
OR BECAUSE OF OUR AGING FLEET?
WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY?
02:08:04PM >>ADRIANA COLINA:
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
IT IS ACTUALLY ALL OF THE ABOVE.
WE ARE TRENDING AT ABOUT 7.5 MILLION IN PARTS PER YEAR.
AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IN THE $10 MILLION IN THE
CONTRACT IS SIMPLY TO ALLOW FOR INFLATION AND ANY IMPACTS
THAT TARIFFS MAY HAVE.
IT ALSO DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OUR AGING FLEET, BUT I WANT
TO MAKE COUNCIL VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE KNOWING THIS IS NOT A
GUARANTEED $10 MILLION A YEAR.
IT IS SIMPLY BASED ON WHAT WE SPENT.
SO WE ARE ALLOWING THE EXPENDITURE IN THE CONTRACT, BUT NOT
GUARANTEEING THAT AMOUNT.
02:08:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU AS ALWAYS.
02:08:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
YES?
02:08:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU,
AGAIN, JUST FOR PUBLIC BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PRIOR.
02:08:52PM >> THIS CAN ONLY BE USED ON AUTO PARTS?
02:08:55PM >>ADRIANA COLINA:
THAT'S CORRECT.
AND MARINE FLEET AS WELL.
ANYTHING THAT HANDLES -- BECAUSE WE DO THE MAINTENANCE AND
REPAIR FOR FIRE, POLICE, THAT INCLUDES THEIR MARINE VESSELS.
02:09:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO, YES.
NOT JUST CARS BUT FIRE TRUCKS, AMBULANCES, BOATS.
YES, THANK YOU.
GOOD REMINDER.
02:09:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:09:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK MR. ROGERO A QUESTION REAL FAST
SINCE YOU POPPED IN.
SHE WAS JUST SAYING -- MISS COLINA WAS SAYING $7 MILLION
TO $8 MILLION A YEAR AND BUDGETED $10 MILLION BECAUSE OF
INFLATION AND TARIFFS MAYBE.
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC AND OUR PURPOSES, IF INTERESTED, SEVEN
INSTEAD OF 10.
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE 20 MILLION?
IT CAN BE ALLOCATED OR MOVED SOMEWHERE ELSE?
02:09:47PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT CAN GO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
IF WE SEE IT EARLIER ENOUGH, WE CAN REAPPROPRIATE IT TO
ANOTHER PURPOSE.
IF WE DON'T AND THE TIMING IS RIGHT, THE FUND BALANCE WHERE
WE COME AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND DISCUSS IT.
02:09:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE PUBLIC IS ASKING
US.
02:10:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE?
WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THIS TODAY.
MAY 15, 2025 IS WHEN WE TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ITEM NUMBER 66, MR. ROGERO, YOU ARE HERE TO DISCUSS FEDERAL
GRANT FUNDING.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
02:10:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
IF I CAN PASS SOME HANDOUTS TO YOU.
FIRST LET ME APOLOGIZE FOR GIVING YOU THIS INFORMATION SO
LATE.
ON BASE OR EARLIER.
AND THIS IS A VERY DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW NOT ONLY
FROM THIS PARTICULAR GRANT PERSPECTIVE, AND I WILL SHARE
MORE ABOUT THAT.
AND THIS FUNDING ORIGINATES WITH THE HOUSING AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT OFFICE.
AND THEY ARE EXPERIENCING SIMILAR CHANGES TO OTHER PORTIONS
OF THE FEDERAL WORK FORCE THAT WE ALL READ ABOUT.
BUT I -- THIS IS IMPORTANT INFORMATION, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO
WAIT ANY LONGER FOR MORE CONCRETE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT IS
IMPORTANT US TO THAT YOU ARE NOT WALKING AROUND -- WALKING
AROUND WITH, LIKE, A KNOWLEDGE VOLUME AS TO WHAT THIS
FUNDING IS ALL ABOUT.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL WITH A
MORE COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW.
ONCE WE HAVE MORE CONCRETE INFORMING WHICH INCLUDES THE
ACTION PLAN BEING SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS, FOR INSTANCE, WHICH CAN INCLUDE THE
ANTICIPATED THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS OVER THE SUMMER.
SO IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
IT IS MOVING VERY FAST FROM A FEDERAL PERSPECTIVE.
AND THAT IS -- THAT IS THE GOOD NEWS.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BUILDING A PLANE
WHILE YOU ARE FLYING IT, BUT IT IS MOVING VERY FAST.
A GRANT FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE HAVE NEVER BEEN ALLOCATED NOR
HAS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
YOU HAVE THE HANDOUTS AND MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION GETS ON
THE WEB SITE ALSO.
WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REITERATE IS THAT THIS IS A
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ALLOCATION.
THEY ARE THE GRANTEE WORKING WITH HUD.
HAVING SAID THAT, WE WANT TO COMPLIMENT THEM.
PLEASED WITH THEIR PRODUCTIVITY AND GUIDANCE.
I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I HAVE NO REASON TO THINK THAT IS NOT
GOING TO CONTINUE GOING FORWARD.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL UNDERSTAND BY NO MEANS A CERTAINTY
THAT WE WILL GET THIS FUNDING THAT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU.
OVER $400 MILLION.
TOTAL ALLOCATION TO THE COUNTY IS $700 MILLION.
AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, PLANT CITY AND TEMPLE TERRACE.
WHERE WE ARE SHARING ALL KIND OF INFORMING AND ALL KIND OF
NEEDS.
PLEASE DON'T GET FIXATED ON A PARTICULAR DOLLAR AMOUNT.
02:13:40PM >> THIS PLAN WILL CHANGE AND WILL CHANGE AND THAT IS THE
ONLY THING I CAN GUARANTEE TO YOU AT THIS TIME.
WHAT IS IT CALLED?
THE WOLF.
IF I CAN HAVE THE WOLF UP, PLEASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO WHAT IS THE CDBG.
THE COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM THAT WE WORKED WITH FOR
YEAR AND WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE WITH.
THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAT JUST HAPPENS TO
SHARE THE FOUR LETTERS, CDBG.
YOU CAN SEE FUNDING FOR LONG-TERM RECOVERY NEEDS THAT HAVE
NOT BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH OTHER SOURCES.
AND I HAVE INCLUDED A QUOTATION HERE NECESSARY EXPENSES,
ETC., DISASTER RELIEF.
LONG TERM RECOVERY.
INFRASTRUCTURE HOUSING AND ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES, PROBABLY
THE PRIMARY EXAMPLE FOR THE CITY IS THE FEMA REIMBURSEMENT
THAT WE GET FOR DAMAGES.
IT IS A VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF FUNDING.
AND I AM NOT DOWN PLAYING IT.
A 250-YEAR STORMS.
THEY CERTAINLY HAVE A GREAT MANY NEEDS AS FOR THE COUNTY AND
THE OTHER CITIES.
THIS WHAT THE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED FOR FROM A FEDERAL
PERSPECTIVE.
WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, COUNCIL, IS THE ACTION PLAN STAGE.
AND YOU SEE IT AS VERY, VERY BROAD VIEW.
WE ARE GOING TO GET MUCH MORE DETAILED LATER ON DOWN THE
LINE AND BROAD OVERVIEW AND WHAT IS WORKING FOR US IS THE
EMPHASIS ON THE PART OF HUD TO GET FUNDING AWAY FROM THEM
VERY, VERY QUICKLY INTO US.
THE COUNTY GIVE ESPECIALLY THAT BROAD ACTION PLAN WITH MAJOR
CRITERIA AND THEY SAY YES OR NO.
WE HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THEY WILL SAY YES.
AND THEY WILL GO INTO THE DETAILS OF PARTICULAR PROJECT,
PARTICULAR LOCATIONS, PROJECT BUDGETS AND THING LIKE THAT.
WE SEE AN EMPHASIS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE AND NOT
SPECIFIC PROJECTS YET.
ONCE WE GET THERE, COUNCIL WILL HAVE A GREAT DEAL MORE
INVOLVEMENT IN OUR PLANS GOING FORWARD WITH THE ALLOCATION.
AND THESE ARE THE PRIMARY USES OF THE FUNDING.
THERE ARE SUB CATEGORIES.
AND MANY OF THESE CATEGORY CROSS-POLLINATE, FOR INSTANCE.
MANY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WILL ALSO BE MITIGATION
PROJECTS.
AND VICE VERSA.
MANY OF YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS MAY ENABLE OR IMPROVE
ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF CROSS-POLLINATION HERE.
AND WE WILL GET DOWN INTO SEGREGATION OF THOSE FUNDING
SOURCES AND USES LATER ON DOWN THE LINE AND HOW MUCH MONEY
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
I DON'T WANT TO SAYS IT CONVOLUTED, BUT I WANT TO WALK YOU
THROUGH THESE CALCULATIONS JUST SO YOU HAVE SOME INSIGHT
INTO THE MACRO VIEW OF THIS FUNDING.
THIS IS THE PRIMARY AMOUNT WE ARE WORKING WITH RIGHT HERE.
709.3 MILLION.
GREAT DEAL OF MONEY.
FROM THERE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TAKE AN AMOUNT FOR
MITIGATION AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS MIT.
I WILL TRY NOT INTO TOO FAR GONE AT 15%.
IT IS NOT BASED ON THE TOTAL BUT THE BASE THERE.
AND YOU ADD IT TOGETHER AND HOW YOU GET TO THE $709 MILLION.
A LITTLE REVERSE OF MY TYPICAL THINKING, BUT HERE WE ARE.
AND THE GOOD NEWS WITH THAT PARTICULAR SEGMENT IS YOU HAVE A
GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING.
ALMOST $100 MILLION JUST FOR MITIGATION PURPOSES AND WE
CERTAINLY CAN USE THAT IN THIS AREA.
MOVING DOWN, YOU TAKE 35, ALMOST $36 MILLION, AND FOR LACK OF
A BETTER TERM, SET IT ASIDE FOR ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION CAN COVER A GREAT DEAL OF PURPOSES.
FOR INSTANCE, OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS, EXPERT CONSULTANTS.
THE COUNTY HAS BROUGHT ON OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS.
WE ARE USING OUR STORM OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS.
INDEL, I BELIEVE, I THINK, ARE THE NAME.
BOTH OF THE CONSULTANT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE EXPERIENCE
ADMINISTERING THIS PARTICULAR GRANT, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT
FOR US.
WE ARE ALL VERY SMART.
WE ARE ALL VERY CAPABLE, BUT HARD TO BEAT EXPERIENCE
SUCCESSFULLY ADMINISTERING THESE GRANT.
THAT NUMBER FOR ADMINISTRATION MAY CHANGE.
IN FACT, IT IS LIKELY TO CHANGE BECAUSE $35 MILLION IS A LOT
OF MONEY FOR JUST ADMINISTRATION.
BUT AT THIS STAGE OF THE GRANT, YOU SET THAT ASIDE.
YOU KNOW YOU GOT IT.
AND THEN AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THIS GRANT PROCESS, AGAIN,
IT IS -- IT IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO CHANGE -- AND PART OF
THAT CHANGE MAY BE REALLOCATION OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF
FUNDING INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATION FUNDING THAT YOU SEE
RIGHT THERE.
MOVING FURTHER DOWN, YOU SEE THAT 70% -- YOU WILL NOTICE
THAT ASTERISK AT THE BOTTOM.
70% OF THE FUNDING OR A LITTLE OVER $470 MILLION IS REQUIRED
TO BE SPENT ON LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS AND
HOUSEHOLDS.
AND I WILL GET INTO THAT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE HIT
THE SPREADSHEET THAT YOU GOT AT THE END OF YOUR
PRESENTATION.
SO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT HAS TO BENEFIT THAT
PARTICULAR POPULATION.
WHICH LEAVES -- 30% OR LITTLE OVER 200 MILLION FOR PROJECT
THAT DON'T NECESSARILY DIRECTLY IMPACT LOW AND MEDIUM INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS AND PERSONS, BUT FURTHER OUR NEEDS ASSOCIATED
WITH PREVENTING AND MITIGATING FUTURE STORM DAMAGE.
AND YOU SEE THOSE TWO TOTAL THE $673 WHICH GET BACK UP HERE
TO THE NUMBER I PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED AFTER ADMINISTRATION.
AND MITIGATION.
SO A LOT TO TAKE IN.
AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.
BUT REALLY THE MEAT OF WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU
TODAY IS THAT SPREADSHEET THAT YOU HAVE AT THE END OF YOUR
PRESENTATION.
DIFFICULT TO SEE FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE, BUT I HAVE GOT IT IN
SMALLER APPORTIONMENTS.
BUT EVERYBODY HAS IT IN FRONT OF THEM.
YOU CAN SEE -- OKAY.
I NEED TO PUT ON MY GLASSES TO MAKE SURE I SEE THE HEAD
NODDING.
SO YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS HERE, AND YOU SEE TOTALING
OVER $450 MILLION.
AGAIN THAT IS WELL OVER HALF OF THE ENTIRE GRANT.
SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET ALL THAT, BUT THIS IS THE STAGE
WHERE EVERYBODY PUTS THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD.
AND WE PRIORITIZE THE USE OF THIS FUNDING FOR THE GOOD OF
THE GREATER COMMUNITY.
WHAT I LIKE TO POINT OUT AT THE BOTTOM THAT 93% OF THE
CITY'S SUBMISSION IS FOR LOW AND MEDIUM INCOME PERSONS.
AND THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THAT IN LIGHT BLUE IS
HOUSING PROJECTS.
NOT A SURPRISE.
ADMINISTERED BY THE HOUSING AND YOU CAN BEEN A DEVELOPMENT
OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND A HEAVY, HEAVY EMPHASIS OF
RECEIVING ALL SORT OF HOUSING.
AND YOU SEE 7% AND A LITTLE OVER $30 MILLION DO NOT MEET THE
PARTICULAR CRITERIA OF LOW AND MIDDLE -- MEDIUM-INCOME
PERSONS.
IF I CAN HAVE A BETTER VIEW.
THESE ARE THE PROJECTS AGAIN -- $420 MILLION THAT EITHER
BENEFIT A LOCAL AND MEDIUM-INCOME AREA, OR BENEFIT LOCAL AND
MEDIUM-INCOME PERSONS -- OR LMC, CLIENTS.
WHAT THAT MEANS -- AND IT MAY BE OBVIOUS, BUT I THINK IT IS
WORTH THE REITERATING THAT WE CAN DO A PROJECT THAT IS NOT
NECESSARILY IN A LOW AND MEDIUM-INCOME AREA, AS LONG AS WE
CAN PROVE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IT IS BENEFITING
PEOPLE WITH LOW AND MEDIUM INCOMES.
AND YOU SEE ACROSS -- ACROSS THE BOARD HERE, WE HAVE
IDENTIFIED -- THIS WAS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT.
WHAT DO WE ANTICIPATE THESE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS WILL DO
AND WHO WILL THEY BENEFIT.
YOU SAY, AGAIN, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY.
WE ENVISION BENEFITING THE LOW AND MEDIUM INCOME PERSONS.
DIVING INTO JUST THE HOUSING.
AGAIN, SO -- SO THE VIEWERS AT HOME CAN GET A BETTER VIEW.
AGAIN, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THAT FUNDING FOR HOUSING
RELATED PURPOSES, AND YOU SEE THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT,
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS.
ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THERE IT IS.
ONLY BECAUSE WE MENTION IT LAST WEEK WHEN WE WERE TALKING OF
FUND BALANCE.
YOU WILL RECALL THE STORMWATER PUMP STATION RESILIENCY
PROGRAM FOR $12 MILLION THAT I HAD REFERENCED THAT WE WERE
LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS FUNDING FOR THAT PURPOSE.
SO A GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING FOR WHAT WE THINK DESPITE MY
EXPERIENCE WITH FEDERAL FUNDING, A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
YOU KNOW THEY GOT THEIR BUMPER RAILS.
THEY DECIDE WHAT THEY -- OR WHAT WASHINGTON WANTs TO SEE IT
SPENT ON, BUT I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE THE
FLEXIBILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ALLOCATION.
I WILL JUST LEAVE THAT UP THERE FOR NOW.
SO -- AND THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY
CONCRETE.
REALLY NOT CONCRETE.
WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW WITH THIS ALLOCATION AND OUR
RELATIONSHIPS AND DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER LOCALITIES AND
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
AGAIN, PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE FORTHCOMING THIS SUMMER.
THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS WORKING ON A DRAFT ACTION PLAN FOR
US TO REVIEW.
FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
AND THEN A SUBMISSION TO HUD FOR APPROVAL OF THE ACTION
PLAN, WHICH IS, AS I AM SURE YOU GATHERED, WHICH IS REALLY
OWN THE INITIAL STEP, BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE FROM A FEDERAL
PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS MOVING VERY, VERY FAST, WHICH IS WHAT
WE WANT.
BECAUSE WE LOVE TO HAVE THE FUNDING FAST.
AND I CAN ANSWER OR ATTEMPT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
02:25:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:25:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THESE ARE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO ASK.
I APPRECIATE IT.
02:25:33PM >> THIS CHART IS EXCELLENT.
02:25:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
OH, GOOD, THANK YOU.
02:25:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WILL THIS ONLY FUND NEW PROJECT OR ONLY
PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THE PLANNING CYCLE OR --
02:25:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
THAT IS ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS WE ASK OURSELVES BECAUSE
YOU HEARD THE BOOGIE MAN WORD "SUPPLANTING."
YOU DON'T WANT TO SUPPLANT GRANT FUNDING.
INTENT IS TO FUND NEW PROJECTS; HOWEVER, THERE IS A NEXUS IF
WE HAVE THE FILL IN THE BLANK PROJECT THAT MEETS THE
MITIGATION NEED.
A FILL IN THE BLANK PROJECT THAT WE THINK WILL BUTTRESS OUR
ABLE TO MITIGATE OR RESPOND TO STORM OR MITIGATE THE DAMAGE
ASSOCIATED WITH STORM.
IF WE HAVEN'T FUND IT YET.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WE THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA.
WE THINK WE HAVE AN AVENUE TO FUND IT.
02:26:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
REALLY WE ARE TALKING OF THE PUMPING
STATIONS, THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THEM.
BY AND LARGE, THIS COULD HELP US FUND THE BUMP REPLACEMENTS
THAT WE NEED.
02:26:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
02:26:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
THAT IS ONE QUESTION.
AND THE SECOND QUESTION, BECAUSE I ALREADY GOT PEOPLE ASKING
ME ABOUT THIS.
AND I DON'T SEE IT LINE ITEM, BUT IT MIGHT BE IN ONE OF
THESE IS, DOES THIS HELP WITH HOMEOWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB FOR
HOUSES THAT MAY HAVE HAD STORM DAMAGE?
02:27:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THIS -- AGAIN, A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND
ONCE AGAIN, I WILL HEDGE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IF YOU ARE A
HOMEOWNER AND A PROPERTY OWNER AND YOU HAVE DAMAGE, THE
TYPICAL AVENUE IS FEMA ASSISTANCE.
02:27:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
02:27:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
PREPARE FOR DAMAGE.
A NEXUS IS GOING FORWARD GOING FORWARD OPPOSED TO -- AND
HOPEFULLY, I AM NOT BEING TOO WINDY IN MY EXPLANATION AS
OPPOSED TO FIXING THE DAMAGE THAT ALREADY OCCURRED.
SPENDING MONEY TO PREVENT THAT SAME DAMAGE OCCURRING, FOR
INSTANCE, OR -- AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A
PROPERTY, FOR INSTANCE, THAT MAY HAVE FLOODED DUE TO
ELEVATION, OKAY.
THAT WILL BE COMPARED WITH FEMA ASSISTANCE AND ELEVATED.
YOU CAN TAKE TWO ROADS, IF YOU WILL.
AND IF YOU CAN ESTABLISH THE FRAMEWORK OF THIS GRANT.
02:28:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE TREE MAINTENANCE.
A LOT OF WHAT I AM HEARING THAT PEOPLE HAVE TREES IN THEIR
YARDS THAT CAUSED DAMAGE AND NOW NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN, BUT
THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUND TO DO SO.
WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA, BUT I THINK IT
GOT EXPANDED TO THE OTHER CRAs, AND PEOPLE TRIM TREES
OR TAKE DANGEROUS TREES DOWN WOULD BE A BENEFICIAL USE OF
THIS MONEY IN TERM OF PREPARATION FOR THE FUTURE STORM.
02:28:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WELL-FRAMED.
AND I WILL CONFIRM THIS, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO FOLLOW A
LOGICAL NEXUS TO PREVENT DAMAGE FROM FUTURE STORMS.
02:28:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS WILL BE VERY
WORRIED ABOUT.
SO I WOULD LOVE -- THAT IS ONE I WOULD HAVE A LOT OF
INTEREST IN.
BUT ALSO, LIKE I SAID, THE NEW PROJECTS.
I APPRECIATE THIS.
02:28:55PM >> THIS IS GREAT INFORMATION.
AND I AM SURE THE PUBLIC ENJOYS SEEING THIS TOO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:29:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YOU ARE WELCOME.
02:29:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:29:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, AS ALWAYS, MR. ROGERO FOR YOUR
COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
THIS IS VERY GOOD NEWS ESPECIALLY WITH -- I DON'T KNOW IF
IT WAS RUMORS INITIALLY -- OF THE INSTABILITY OF THE FUNDS.
THE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THE FEDERAL CHAOS WHATEVER
IT IS.
THIS IS VERY, VERY GOOD NEWS ESPECIALLY ON SOME
OF THOSE LONG-TERM PROJECTS.
WHAT THE PEOPLE AND PLACES LIKE TAMPA ARE LOOKING FOR ARE
REALLY, REALLY ROBUST INVESTMENT IN STORMWATER AND JUST
RESILIENCY KIND OF PROGRAMS.
STAR WARS STRATEGIC DEFENSE INITIAL THINK OF, SDI TYPE
MEASURES ON STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER.
BECAUSE AFTER WHAT WE SAW THIS PAST YEAR, PEOPLE ARE
TRAUMATIZED, AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING
IN THAT RECORD.
HOUSING ISSUE IS INTERESTING.
I TALKED TO PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY EVERY WEEK IN MY DISTRICT ON
THIS ISSUE.
AND PEOPLE ARE VERY ANGRY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW JUST BECAUSE
OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM.
AND I REMEMBER -- I ALWAYS SAY THIS BEFORE EVERY STORM
SEASON.
I THINK TO MYSELF.
WITH SANDBAGS AND HELPING MY FRIENDS IN SOUTH TAMPA TO
PREPARE BECAUSE DISTRICT 7 IS NOT ON THE MAP FOR TRAGEDIES
LIKE THIS.
OBVIOUSLY, IT CAUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE BY SURPRISE, AND A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE VERY, VERY SCARED WHAT WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
IT IS VERY NATURAL.
PTSD, THE FEAR OF THE ANXIETY AND TRAUMA AND SO FORTH AND I
HOPE THAT OBVIOUSLY THIS CITY FIRST WITH THE 3.2 MILLION
THAT WE PASS NOW.
$1.8 MILLION.
SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I WAS GOING TO ASK A MILLION AND SHE DOUBLED IT.
THAT WAS AWESOME.
GOES A LONG WAY AND WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN SIMILAR
SITUATIONS ARE DOING.
ONE OF COMPLAINT WE HEAR, FIRST $3.2 MILLION BY FLORIDA
REGULATIONS, MIDDLE-INCOME AND WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE CAN BE
DENIED THE FUND.
I THINK FOR THE MONEY WE CAN BE MORE INCLUSIVE WITH MIDDLE
INCOME AND WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY.
SOUTH TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, WHATEVER IT MAY BE SING IT IS
IMPORTANT FOR THE FAIR INTERPRETATION OF THESE DOLLARS TO
MAKE SURE IT GOES TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.
YOU MENTIONED FEMA -- YOU ALWAYS READ ABOUT IT IN THE NEWS
WHERE FEMA GET POLITICIZED IN THE BUDGET IN CONGRESS AND
FOLKS HOLD IT UP OVER A DEMAND ON SOMETHING ELSE HAPPEN TO
OTHER STATE AND IT HAPPENS TO US.
FEMA IS HERE TO HELP EVERYTHING.
AND FEMA'S BIG CHALLENGE IT IS NOT FUNDED LONG ENOUGH.
IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT SUFFER $150,000 LOSS AND UNINSURED
AND EARNING $95,000 AND GET A CHECK OF $12,000 FROM FEMA, AT
THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A LOT OF CONFIDENCE OF WHAT GOVERNMENT
IS DOING TO HAVE YOUR BACK AND GOES TO THE IDEA THAT
ESPECIALLY SINCE OCTOBER WHEN I AM TALKING TO PEOPLE, AND I
ALWAYS BELIEVED THIS, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE
WORKING CLASS AND THE MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING HARD TO GET
TO THE MIDDLE CLASS DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT HAS
THEIR BACK.
STUFF THAT WE HAVE SEEN DOESN'T HELP SUPPORT THAT -- DOWN
THE HELP TO OPPOSE THAT, I SHOULD SAY.
I THINK OUR JOB IN THIS IS TO FIGHT THAT SENTIMENT OF BEING
AS INCLUSIVE AS WE CAN ON THESE HOUSING DOLLARS.
PEOPLE ARE HURTING AND PEOPLE ARE MAD AS WELL AND WE NEED TO
CONTINUE DOING THAT FOR THEM.
AND WE HAVE DONE A JOB OF TRYING OUR BEST UNDER THESE TRAGIC
CIRCUMSTANCES.
GOOD NEWS AND DENNIS.
I ALWAYS SAY THIS THAT YOUR PROFESSIONALISM IS STELLAR AND
DO YOU A GREAT JOB.
02:33:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU.
THAT IS VERY KIND.
THANK YOU FOR REITERATING -- NOT YOUR WORDS, BUT THIS A GAME
CHANGER.
02:33:19PM >> THIS IS A SERIOUS AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
02:33:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM SORT OF CONFUSED.
MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
WHY AM I NOT SEEING THINGS LIKE POND STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT
EVEN LAND ACQUISITION FOR FLOOD PREVENTION.
I AM NOT SEEING CHANGING OUR OPEN DITCHES TO VAULT.
YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF MITIGATION EFFORTS IN THIS.
I MEAN OTHER THAN SHORING UP OUR PUMP STATIONS AND I DON'T
KNOW BUT SEEMS TO ME THAT THESE THINGS ARE MISSING FROM THAT.
A REASON?
02:34:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, A COUPLE OF REASONS AND ONE OF THE THINGS
I SHOULD SAY UNDER THE CLASSIFICATION, TWO CLASSIFICATION,
INFRASTRUCTURE AND MITIGATION.
AND I NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER MYSELF TO BE HONEST YOU
WITH.
TWO PRIMARY CLASSIFICATIONS.
WITHIN THOSE, THE SUBCLASSIFICATION.
THE ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION THAT I MENTIONED THAT IS NOT
SEEN ON THIS SPREADSHEET AND CONTAINED WITHIN THOSE --
WITHIN THOSE MACRO CATEGORIZATIONS, IF YOU WILL.
OTHER PART -- THE VAULTS, FOR INSTANCE, ONCE -- ONE WE GET
INTO THIS SPECIFIC PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS GRANT, MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO REFINE THESE
PARTICULAR CATEGORY TO INCLUDE THING LIKE JUST WHAT YOU
REFERENCE.
AND IT IS EXPECTED.
AGAIN, WE ARE MOVING VERY, VERY FAST.
AND FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S PERSPECTIVE, THEY WANT A
SOUND, BROAD PLAN THAT MEET THEIR REQUIREMENT AND THEN
THE EXPECTATION IS TO CONTINUE TO REFINE AND CHANGE
THESE AT THE PROJECT LEVEL.
02:35:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK, AT THE TOP, I SEE SEVERAL
PROBLEMATIC AREAS.
GOOD THING WE TALK ABOUT ARE THE OPEN DITCHES THAT ARE
CREATING FLOODING HAZARDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH BECOMES
AN ISSUE WITH SIDEWALK INSTALLATIONS.
IF WE ARE ABLE TO CLOSE THE DITCHES UP.
PUT PIPES IN.
WE WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR SIDEWALKS AND REALLY EFFECT OUR
AREAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED AREAS, LIKE
THE SULPHUR SPRINGS, SOME THE AREAS IN EAST TAMPA, AND SOME
OF THE AREAS THAT ARE NOT AS THRIVING AS OTHERS.
WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS EXPERIENCED IN DISTRICT 7 IN
THE FOREST HILLS WORKING-CLASS -- LOWER WORKING-CLASS
NEIGHBORHOOD STORMWATER MONTHS WITH IMPROVEMENT AND
WORKING CLASS AND LOWER WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE ANY OF THAT IN THIS MASSIVE
AMOUNT OF MONEY.
I DON'T SEE THE IMPROVEMENT.
GRANTED, THE PUMPS THEMSELVES ARE EXCELLENT, BUT I SEE OTHER
LARGE CHUNK OF MONEY THAT AREN'T PERCOLATING DOWN -- SOME OF
THE GREATEST NEEDS ARE IN THE CITY AND TALK ABOUT ALLOCATING
THE EXCESS MONEY FOR THE PAST FISCAL YEAR.
AND THAT IS PAVING, BECAUSE PAVING HAS A DIFFICULT ELEMENT
IN OUR WASTEWATER FLOW AS WELL AND HOW IS THAT REFLECTED IN
HERE.
AND I AM NOT EVEN SEEING CATEGORIES THAT YOU CAN EVEN SUB IT
OUT, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THAT IS SUCH A CRITICAL NEED FOR THE
CITY, AND IF WE CAN GET THAT ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THESE
AREAS.
OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE PAVING ON TOP OF PAVING ON TOP OF PAVING,
AND THE STORMWATER CONNECTIONS ARE NOT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE
IN MODERN TIME.
SEEING A BUNCH OF MISSING ELEMENTS.
I AM NOT TRYING TO MICROMANAGE WITH A COMPLICATED PROGRAM
AND TO DISSEMINATE THIS INFORMATION IN 15 MINUTES AND YOU
ARE POURING OVER IT HUNDREDS OF HOURS.
ON THE SURFACE, THESE ARE THE AREAS I AM SEEING THAT I HAVE
ISSUES WITH.
02:37:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I APPRECIATE THAT AND VERY GOOD POINT.
HERE IS HOW I SEE IT.
VIK IS HERE AND HE CAN ADD MORE DETAIL.
FOR THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, FORECAST, THEY ARE GOING TO COME
THIS SUMMER ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO BRING
TO THIS PROCESS, AGAIN, THIS A COUPLE OF MONTH.
02:37:41PM >> THIS IS BY NO MEANS WRITTEN THIS STONE, BUT THE VERY GOOD
POINT.
AND, AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE.
02:37:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONCE SOMETHING GET WRITTEN.
IT MOVES ALONG.
02:37:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
ONE OF THE THINGS -- TWO THINGS THAT I
WOULD HIGHLIGHT.
PART OF THE EMPHASIS IS TAILORING IT TO THE HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
WHAT SOME OF THESE CONSULTANTS -- WHAT THE CONSULTANT HAVE
FOUND IN SOME LOCALITY THAT WILL GET THIS MONEY START OFF
OVERWHELMINGLY IN THE HOUSING AREA AND YOU GET INTO
LOGISTIC.
CAN YOU SPEND THAT MONEY WITHIN THE APPORTIONED TIME OF THIS
GRANT.
AND THEN DURING -- IT IS A SIX-YEAR SPAN.
AND DURING THAT SIX YEARS, AND DURING THAT YOU WILL SEE MANY
ITERATIONS OF THAT FUNDING.
YOU HAVE THE GRANT TIME PERIOD AND MANY MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR
COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT.
02:38:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN LIGHT OF THE POLITICAL REALITY THAT WE
ARE LIVING IN TODAY, SOMETIMES WORD MATTER AND HOW WE
CATEGORIZE THINGS.
AND I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CATEGORIZE THESE THINGS, AND I
APPRECIATE AND SUPPORT THE INTENT, BUT I THINK IT MAY BE
BETTER WORDSMITHING AS YOU TRY TO PUT THESE THINGS INTO
CATEGORY TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THAT FUNDING AS THINGS GET
PULLED BACK TO D.C.
02:39:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
COPY.
AND WE WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE AND VERY INTERESTED IN SUGGESTS
OF WORDSMITH IN ORDER TO DEFEND THAT FUNDING.
02:39:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXACTLY.
AI WILL BE SCOURING EVERYTHING WE SUBMIT.
02:39:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, THERE HAVE -- MAYBE YOU READ ABOUT
ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA HAS A DIRECT APPORTIONMENT.
WE DON'T GET A DIRECT APPORTIONMENT.
ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA HAD A DIRECT APPORTIONMENT.
I THINK A QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS AND NARRATIVE WITHIN
THEIR JUSTIFICATION AND THE GRANT WAS PULLED.
02:39:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THAT.
AND WORDS MATTER NOW.
02:39:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I APPRECIATE YOU REITERATING THAT
SENSITIVITY.
TELL ME IF I SAID ANYTHING WRONG, VIK.
02:39:59PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YOU NEVER SAY ANYTHING WRONG.
02:40:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE HE SAID SOMETHING WRONG.
02:40:04PM >>VIK BHIDE:
VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
I WANT TO CLARIFY OR AUGMENT WHAT DENNIS MENTIONED OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE ASPECT OF THIS PROGRAM.
SO HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THERE ARE CATEGORIES OF THE AMOUNTS AVAILABLE OF WHICH THE
REAL NUMBER REALLY ARE AVAILABLE FOR LOW TO MEDIUM-INCOME,
THE LMI CATEGORY.
FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR THE WHOLE POT, THE COUNTY AND THE
CITY, $199 MILLION ARE AVAILABLE.
BUT THEY BREAK IN THE SAME PROPORTIONS THAT -- THAT -- THAT
DENNIS BROUGHT THE LARGER NUMBER.
SO NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
I MEAN, TO HIS POINT, THIS WILL BE REVISITED.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING ON THAT PLAN -- OR DENNIS'S OFFICE
IS WORKING ON THAT PLAN.
I WANTED THAT ONE PROJECT BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER HURTAK
MENTIONED IT.
WHEN WE ARE MEETING WITH THE HUD.
I SPECIFICALLY ASKED IF WE ALREADY HAVE A FEDERAL GRANT FOR
A PROJECT AND IF WE WANT TO AUGMENT THAT WITH A SCOPE THAT
FITS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY, THE PROGRAM'S CATEGORY, CAN WE
REQUEST HUD FUNDING TO AUGMENT THAT FEDERAL GRANT.
NOT SUPPLANTING BUT ADDING SCOPE.
WHAT WE WERE THINKING, AND WHAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT, IS
PATHWAYS TO PALMETTO.
BECAUSE IT HAS AN INCREASED STORMWATER SCOPE WITH THE HEIGHT
OF THE SEAWALL NOW GOING UP A BIT SINCE HELENE OR LEARNING
FROM HELENE.
AND THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST.
IT IS NOT THERE TODAY, BUT IT WAS PARTLY BECAUSE AFTER
MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, BOTH COUNTY STAFF AND CITY STAFF
FELT LIKE IF WE HAD KNOWN SOME OF THIS CRITERIA OR SOME OF
THE GUARDRAILS IN ADVANCE, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER
PREPARED.
02:41:56PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I CAN POSTSCRIPT THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VIK.
EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF ALL THE SMART PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS
WITH THE CITY.
AND THANK THEM RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU.
VERY QUALITY INFORMATION AND THANK THE COUNTY AND THE OTHER
CITIES.
02:42:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:42:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
SO I APPRECIATE THIS, BUT I AM LOOKING NOW WHAT YOU WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT THIS.
AND YOU MENTIONED THE SUMMER PUBLIC MEETING MULTIPLE TIME.
WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
DO THEY -- DO THEY GIVE US A MONETARY AMOUNT FIRST?
OR ARE THEY DOING PUBLIC MEETING FIRST?
WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE THIS MONEY?
LIKE, WHAT -- WHAT KIND OF TIME LINES CAN YOU SHARE WITH US
SO THE PUBLIC DOESN'T GET TOO EXCITED.
IF IT IS SUMMER, I AM SEEING WE ARE NOT GETTING THIS UNTIL
FALL WHICH IS STILL FAST FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
02:42:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT IS FAST FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT
NOT SO FAST FOR THOSE LIVING IN DAMAGED HOME.
02:42:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WANT TO MANAGE
EXPECTATIONS.
YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF STEPS.
THE COUNTY IS SCHEDULING -- AND ALREADY SCHEDULED A PUBLIC
MEETING WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THAT IS HAPPENING.
WE WILL DRAW CITY COUNCIL INTO THE SPECIFICITY ALSO.
THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS ARE DRAFTING AN ACTION PLAN FOR BOARD
OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' REVIEW.
THE COUNTY PERSONNEL DOESN'T HAVE IT YET EITHER.
CAN'T GIVE YOU HARD AND FAST TIMELINES BUT THAT APPEARS TO
BE MAYBE NEXT MONTH.
AND THEN THE PUBLIC MEETING.
AND THEN APPROVAL BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION AGAIN.
THEY GOT TO APPROVE IT BEFORE IT GOES WASHINGTON AND VERY,
VERY TENTATIVELY THAT APPEARS TO BE JULY.
AND, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T SOUND FAST BUT AS YOU KNOW AND MANY
OF US KNOW, THAT IS LIGHTNING SPEED.
02:43:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A LOT FASTER THAN I WAS ANTICIPATING.
WONDERFUL NEWS.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US EXPECTATIONS.
STILL FASTER THAN I THOUGHT.
THAT IS WONDERFUL.
02:43:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHERE YOU ARE
PRESENTATION AND THE BACK-UP DOCUMENTATION, SIR.
02:44:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:44:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VIK BHIDE, 69 AND 70.
FIRST TO DISCUSS AN IN-PERSON REPORT REGARDING THIRD-PARTY
MAINTENANCE AND EQUIPMENT PAPER BY THE STORMWATER SERVICE
ASSESSMENT.
SO BEFORE YOU BEGIN -- IT IS HURTAK'S MOTION.
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
02:44:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
SO THIS REPORT DETAILED PERSONNEL, THIRD-PARTY MAINTENANCE
CONTRACTS AND EQUIPMENT.
SO I -- I GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE -- THE -- THE WRITTEN REPORT
WAS GOOD, BUT I STILL HAD SOME QUESTIONS FROM IT.
SO I SHARED THOSE QUESTIONS ALREADY.
SO I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE PREPARED TO TALK TO THEM.
02:44:52PM >>VIK BHIDE:
SURE.
02:44:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS THAT I SAW AND THAT
I KNOW THE PUBLIC WILL WANT TO KNOW IS, IN THIS REPORT, IT
SAYS THAT 11 POSITIONS HAVE BEEN REASSIGNED FROM THE
STORMWATER DIVISION TO THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION.
AND THAT SEEM COUNTER INTUITIVE.
SO IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS
WHAT IS GOING ON, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
02:45:15PM >>VIK BHIDE:
OF COURSE.
THIS WAS KIND OF A CONTINUATION OF THE DISCUSSION FROM
LAST YEAR WHERE SOME STORMWATER -- SOME TRANSPORTATION
POSITIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THAT WERE BEING FUNDED BY THE
STORMWATER ASSESSMENT ALSO.
SO WE RECONCILED THAT LIST.
OF THAT, 11 POSITIONS WERE IDENTIFIED TO BE FUNDED NOT BY
THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT.
SO GIVEN THAT WE ARE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS RIGHT NOW THAT IS
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AND DENNIS AND HIS TEAM ARE WORKING ON
THAT AS WE SPEAK.
02:45:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THE MONEY USED TO PAY FOR FTEs THAT ENDED
UP DOING MOBILITY WORK.
WILL THAT MONEY BE PAID BACK TO THE STORMWATER FUND.
02:46:07PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I AM NOT AWARE THAT IT WILL.
THE REASON THOSE POSITIONS ARE BEING MOVED OUT OF THE
STORMWATER OPERATIONS ITSELF WAS BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS
EXPRESS LAST YEAR.
BUT PAVE SOMETHING A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF STORMWATER
MOVEMENT ANYWAY.
02:46:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT WE, AS A COUNCIL, APPROVED
HALF MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT AFTER THE STORM TO GO TOWARD
CONTRACT WORK.
AND THEN LAST WEEK, WE ALLOCATED $3 MILLION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO -- I WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE
SOMEBODY ASKED ME IF THAT MEANT IT WAS ONLY GOING TO BE $2.5
MILLION.
BECAUSE I SAID, NO, I BELIEVE OUR IDEA IT WAS $3.5
MILLION GOING TO STORMWATER.
02:47:05PM >>VIK BHIDE:
HALF A MILLION SPECIFICALLY FOR DITCH GRADING.
02:47:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.
AND I KNOW YOU LISTENED OR YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN GONE BUT YOU
LISTENED TO HEAR THE KINDS OF THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
DONE WITH THE $3 MILLION INCLUDING BUYING MORE EQUIPMENT.
GETTING FTEs IF NECESSARY.
AND -- IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
-- I HAVE AN E-MAIL FROM EARLIER TODAY ABOUT WHAT A KIND OF
CONTRACT WORK YOU HAVE BEEN DOING, THE ORDERS THAT ARE IN
PLACE JUST, AGAIN, TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE,
REASSURANCE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
02:47:51PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ABSOLUTELY.
SO ONE, OUR TEAM IN-HOUSE IS WORKING SIX DAYS A WEEK RIGHT
NOW ON STORMWATER MAINTENANCE.
WE ARE GOING IN THE ORDER THAT WE PUBLISH ON A MONTHLY
BASIS.
JUST TODAY, WE UPDATED BOTH THE PAVING AND STORMWATER REPORT
ON TAMPA.GOV/MOBILITY.
WE ISSUED TWO EMERGENCY AFFIDAVITS FOR STORMWATER WORK.
ONE IS A $2.5 MILLION AFFIDAVIT FOR KIMMINS FOR CATCHING UP
ON CAVE-INS.
LIKE WASTEWATER, A LARGE BACKLOG OF CAVE-INS AND TAKES A LOT
OF STAFF TIME AND FREES US UP TO DO OTHER THING AS WELL.
THE OTHER $1 MILLION IS FOR JET LINING AND TV INSPECTING OF
OUR PIPE, CULVERT ENFORCEMENT.
ALL OF THOSE ARE BEING PUT TO USE RIGHT NOW.
WORK ORDERS HAVE BEEN ISSUED AND THEY ARE GETTING THAT WORK
DONE.
02:48:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
BECAUSE WE HEAR A LOT OF THE CLEANING AND TVING OF PIPES.
A LOT OF FOLK ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
WANTED MISS SHARP TO COME UP SUPER FAST.
BECAUSE WE GET THIS REPORT AND IT IS WRITTEN, IT IS NOT, NOT
SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT BUT YOUR STORMWATER QUARTERLY REPORT
AND YOU CAN GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY.
THROW A FEW OF THEM ON THE SCREEN.
BUT SHE WENT THROUGH AND FOUND OUT ALL OF THE WORK THAT IS
ACTUALLY BEING DONE -- YOU MAY WANT TO ZOOM OUT JUST A
LITTLE BIT.
THE WHEEL ON THE TOP.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY IT GOES.
OH, WOW.
02:49:31PM >> IS THAT GOOD?
02:49:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PERFECT, EVERYBODY GOES THE OTHER WAY FIRST.
BUT THIS IS THE WATERSHED MASTER PLAN AND THE THINGS
HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
YOU CAN KEEP THROWING THEM ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
02:49:44PM >> THAT WILL BENEFIT THE ENTIRE CITY.
02:49:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SOME IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE TYPE OF
PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING THIS YEAR AND
CONTINUOUS WORK.
02:49:55PM >> THIS IS A NEW UPDATED FORM OF THIS REPORT.
AND PEOPLE HAVE NOT SEEN IT AND THIS IS GREAT.
AT THE VERY END, MISS SHARP HAS A WEB SITE WHERE THIS IS A
PUBLIC REPORT.
PUBLISHED EVERY QUARTER.
WHERE YOU CAN FIND THAT REPORT, TAMPA.GOV/TSSSTORMWATER AND
YOU CAN SEE THE QUARTERLY REPORT AND SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN
YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK THIS IS CRITICAL AND THE MAP ARE VERY USEFUL.
I APPRECIATE THE DATES.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT THAT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF COMING FORWARD AT THE END OF THIS
MONTH, BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A REPORT THIS WEEK ON WHAT
WAS ACCOMPLISHED LAST MONTH AND WHAT IS COMING, I DID NOT
WANT THIS TIME TO ESCAPE WITHOUT US BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT
THE WORK YOU ARE DOING, THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE AND WHAT
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT MORE ON MAY 22.
02:50:56PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU.
02:50:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I AM WAITING FOR 70.
ITEM NUMBER 70, SIR. THIS IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
02:51:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO, I THINK IT WAS, I
STARTED GETTING A CALL FROM VERY ANGRY AND WORRIED PEOPLE OF
NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL OF POSSIBILITY OF THE SOUTH HOWARD
CULVERT GOING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY THE
SMALL STREETS.
AS I STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
I ASKED, WHERE DID YOU HEAR THIS?
THEY SAID ONE OF THE ENGINEERS ON THE PROJECT TOLD THEM THAT
THAT ROUTE WAS IN PLAY AS A RESPONSE OF THAT AND SOME OF
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY I ASKED YOU ALL TO AGREE TO PUT
THIS ON THE AGENDA AND SINCE THEN THE CITY STAFF HAVE SAID
TO MY AIDE AND TO THE NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE THAT THEY
ARE NOT GOING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD AND REMEMBER AS WAS SAID
IN PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING, WE PREVIOUSLY PASSED A
RESOLUTION TO NOT GO THROUGH THE STREET OF PARK LAND
ESTATES.
THAT IS WHERE WE STAND NOW.
THE REASON THERE IS NOT A ROOM FULL OF NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL
TODAY, BECAUSE THEY BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, THAT
THE STAFF WILL NOT ALLOW THE CONSULTANTS TO GO THROUGH THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THAT CHANGES THEY WILL SHOW UP JUNE 4.
NOW OVER TO STAFF.
02:52:28PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE SUBMITTED A MEMO TO THAT EFFECT.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
02:52:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
02:52:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM FOR THE PUBLIC --
PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE FROM NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL IS WATCHING
AND MR. MICHELINI IS ON THE BOARD NOW.
CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT THE -- THAT THERE IS NO
ALTERNATIVE THAT WILL BE PRESENTED ON JUNE 4 THAT WILL GO
THROUGHOUT INTERNAL ROADS OF NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL AND
PARKLAND ESTATES?
02:52:58PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ON JUNE 4, WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC MEETING -- OR IS
IT JUNE 5?
02:53:05PM >> JUNE 5.
02:53:06PM >>VIK BHIDE:
JUNE 5, WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE WE WILL
HAVE OUR FINDINGS OF THE ROUTE THAT OUR CONSULTANT IS DOING
AND WHAT THE BUSINESS ALLIANCE ASKED US TO LOOK AT.
02:53:19PM >> THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE ROUTES, GEORGIA THROUGH NEW SUBURB
BEAUTIFUL, WHICH WE ALREADY EVALUATED PREVIOUSLY AS PART OF
THE JMT STUDY, AND IT WASN'T FOUND TO BE FEASIBLE.
WE ARE GOING TO GIVE IT ANOTHER LOOK AND THIS IS HAPPENING
RIGHT NOW ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ASKED OF US TO DO
SO.
WE DO NOT BELIEVE, AS STAFF MENTIONED, THAT GIVING JUST
KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW OF THE GEOGRAPHY, THE COST AND TIME IT
WILL TAKE, THAT IT WILL BE A RECOMMENDED OPTION AND THE
CONTRACT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW DOES NOT GO THROUGH THAT AREA
ANYWAY.
IT IS FOR HOWARD AND THE THREE OPTIONS TO LOOK AT.
THAT IS WHY STAFF IT YOU NOT BELIEVE THAT WILL BE A VIABLE
ROUTE.
WE HAVE DONE SOME AMOUNT OF DISCOVERY BUT WE WILL SHARE ALL
OF THE INFORMATION ON JUNE 3.
02:54:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY -- AGAIN, THIS
IS COMING FROM THEM, NOT BY ME.
TOLD BY SOMEONE, CITY STAFF OR CONSULTANTS THAT THE ROUTE --
THE PROPOSED ROUTE THROUGH NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL IS
BECAUSE BERN'S HAD PARTICULARLY ASKED TO BYPASS BERN'S.
BERN'S SAID THAT IS NOT TRUE.
WOULD ANYBODY ON THE CITY SAID THAT.
02:54:43PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I WOULD HAVE SAID THAT.
WE MET WITH THE BUSINESS ALLIANCE, THIS IS ONE OF THE FIVE
OPTIONS THEY ASKED US TO LOOK AT.
WHAT WE TOLD THEM IS WE WOULD LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
IT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT.
WE WILL LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND HOLD A PUBLIC MEET WHERE WE
WILL SHOW ALL OF OUR FINDINGS.
02:54:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE PERCEPTION OF THE COMMUNITY -- YOU KNOW
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN FRAUGHT WITH DIRTY POLITICS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CAME FROM ONE OR TWO PEOPLE IN
PARKLAND ESTATE OR FROM THE STAFF, BEFORE BUT IT -- IT HAS
BEEN SUCH YOU A DIRTY THING.
BUT YOU SEE THAT PEOPLE -- SCARING PEOPLE IN NEW SUBURB
BOULEVARD AND BLAMING BERN'S CAUSED A POLITICAL PROBLEM AND
PERCEPTION OF THE CITY THAT SOMEHOW IT IS RETALIATION BY
STAFF BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT THAT THE HOWARD AVENUE
PEOPLE LOOKED AT OTHER AREAS.
I WILL ASK YOU AGAIN AND STAFF TO LEAVE THE DIRTY POLITIC
OUT OF IT AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO LEAVE THE DIRTY POLITIC
OUT OF IT.
DESPITE WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER A LOT OF PLACE SOUTH TAMPA
WERE FLOODED.
SCARED PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA AND OTHER PLACE
TOO.
BUT SOUTH TAMPA, A LOT OF PEOPLE FLOODED.
THEY DON'T WANT POLITICS.
THEY WANT SOLUTIONS.
REAL SOLUTIONS.
THE COMMUNITY SHOULD TRUST CONSULTANTS AND STAFF WHEN THEY
COME BEFORE THEM WITHOUT TRYING TO STIR UP TROUBLE.
CAN I ASK YOU -- WE PREVIOUSLY PASSED A MOTION CITY COUNCIL
TO NOT GO DOWN BRISTOL.
CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT GOING DOWN LAKEVIEW TO BRISTOL.
ONLY THREE OPTIONS THAT YOU SAY ARE BEING LOOKED AT.
CAN YOU TELL US BECAUSE NOW OF THE RESOLUTION IS STAFF
LISTENING TO US OR REVIEWING OUR REQUEST?
02:56:31PM >>VIK BHIDE:
OUR CONSULTANT IS LOOKING AT THOSE THREE
OPTIONS AND WILL HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING ON JUNE 5 WHERE WE
WILL DISCLOSE.
I MET WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUC BOARD WITH OUR ANTICIPATE IT.
WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN AND ARE DOING
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO CONSIDER THAT AND ACCOMMODATE THEM.
BUT THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF JUST OPINION, A MATTER OF
ANALYSIS AND BENEFIT OVER COST.
OUR CONSULTANT IS DOING THAT AND CONSISTENT WITH THAT
MESSAGING.
WE WILL KNOW FOR SURE OUR PUBLIC MEETING ON JUNE 5 AND HOPE
TO SHARE POSITIVE INFORMATION.
02:57:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CITY COUNCIL WILL NOT GET A BRIEFING IN
ADVANCE?
02:57:16PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES, YOU WILL.
100%.
02:57:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE WON'T GET BLINDSIDED?
02:57:24PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE WILL REACH OUT IF YOU WANT NOTIFICATION.
02:57:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE HEARD THIS MORNING THE SIZE OF THE
CULVERTS HAVE INCREASE.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS THAT THE CAPACITY OF THIS PROJECT
WILL NOT HANDLE THE VOLUME OF WATER COMING THROUGH.
THE WAY I OBSERVED IN ADMINISTRATION, THEY NEVER LIKE TO SAY
THAT WE WEREN'T DOING SOMETHING AND DOING SOMETHING WRONG.
THEY DID THIS THROUGH THE WHOLE GEORGE FLOYD THING --
PROTESTS.
THE ISSUE IS, THE -- ON -- IT APPEARS THAT THE -- THAT THE
SCOPE SOMEHOW HAS BEEN CHANGED TO INCREASE THE VOLUME.
AND NOW WE ARE ALSO HEARING THIRD HAND EVEN THOUGH STAFF
EARLIER SAID THERE WOULD BE NO INFRASTRUCTURE IN PALMA CEIA
PINES.
WE ARE HEARING THERE MAY BE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PALMA CEIA
PINES.
HAS THE SCOPE INCREASED FOR THOSE AREAS OR STICKING TO THE
ORIGINAL THREE ROUTES.
02:58:21PM >> THE CONCEPT AND THE COULD ESPECIALLY IS THE SAME.
THREE ROUTES AND HOWARD AVENUE.
02:58:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE SCOPE IS NOT BEING INCREASED TO PROVIDE
INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY?
02:58:32PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT IS NOT CHANGING
ANYWAY.
WHAT THE DESIGNS INFORMS US BASED THE MODELING.
I DON'T KNOW YET AND CONSISTENT THAT LET THE ANALYSIS AND
DESIGN HAPPEN AND LET US KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE IS.
02:58:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID ALL ALONG WE SHOULD DO THE ANALYSIS
AND THEN RECOMMEND THE DESIGN.
INSTEAD OF PRESENTING THREE ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS FIRST.
UNNECESSARILY CAUSED A LOT OF FIGHTING AND CONFUSION AND I
HOPE THAT WILL END BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY DESERVES BETTER
THAN THIS.
PEOPLE WHOSE HOUSES FLOODED DESERVE BETTER THAN RUMOR AND
FIGHTING.
THEY SOLUTIONS.
THANK YOU.
02:59:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:59:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
WE ARE POLICYMAKERS.
WE LEAVE IT UP TO THE PROFESSIONAL TO DO THE JOB.
YOU HIRED CONTRACTORS AND OTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO ARE REVIEWING
EVERYTHING THAT IS POSSIBLE.
ONE OUT OF SEVEN, I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT NOTHING IS GOING
TO FLOOD.
BECAUSE I DON'T TELL YOU -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS COMING.
WE MAY BUILD SOMETHING THAT HANDLES A FOUR AND A FIVE ONE
TIME.
WHAT IF YOU GET FOUR OR A FIVE TWICE, OR THREE TIME.
YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT.
NO ONE CAN.
I AM OBJECTIVE TO WHAT I CAN SEE AND DO.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN, HOW WE CAN WITH
WHAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN I AM NOT KICKING THE CAN BUT
TELLING THE FACT.
WHAT I AM LOOKING AT TODAY, YESTERDAY AND TWO MONTH AGO AND
FOUR MONTH AGO AND FIVE MONTH AGO NOW.
THE BAY.
IT HAS BEEN HOTTER BY THREE DEGREES THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR AT
THIS TIME.
SO I'M NOT A WEATHERMAN OR WEATHER LADY.
I AM TELLING YOU WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD.
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
I HOPE THAT IS GOES NOWHERE, ANY PART OF AMERICA AND TO THE
CARIBBEAN OR ANYWHERE.
BUT HOPE SOMETHING NOT GOOD ENOUGH DEFENDS HOW THE WIND ARE
BLOWING FROM WEST TO EAST.
AND THE CURRENT FROM THE NORTHERN AREA IS COMING DOWN AND
MOVES THE HURRICANE TOWARD WHAT?
A PLACE CALLED FLORIDA.
AND THE WHOLE COAST EXPOSED.
WHERE IT GOES, NOBODY KNOWS.
HURRICANES ARE THERE.
IF THERE ARE SMALL ONES, YES, IT WILL HANDLE THEM.
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER ONE THING, THAT BAY HAS HUNDREDS OF
TRILLIONS OF GALLONS EVERY SINGLE DAY HERE.
WE DON'T HAVE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS PUSHING THE
BAY OUT.
WE WERE LUCKY IN A WAY THE HURRICANE, THE SPENDING OF IT
BROUGHT THE BAY OFF AND NOT IN.
IF IT WOULD HAVE BROUGHT THE BAY IN, IT WOULDN'T BE HERE
TODAY.
DOWNTOWN WOULD BE GONE.
SO AGAIN, I AM NOT WEATHER PERSON OR A GENIUS, AND I AM NOT
AS SMART AS ANYBODY ELSE.
I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT I ASSUME FROM THE FACT I HAVE SEEN.
AND THEY ARE NOT MY CALCULATIONS, THEY ARE OTHERS.
SO AS LONG AS WE TRY THE BEST WE CAN AND CERTAINLY -- YOUR
DEPARTMENT ARE POLICYMAKERS WE DON'T DIRECT TO YOU DO
ANYTHING AND THE DECISION BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR
ADMINISTRATION.
WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BRING YOU UP, TALK TO YOU AND ADVISE YOU,
BUT AT THE END A POLICY DECISION GIVEN BY THIS COUNCIL TO
SOMEONE ELSE.
I AM NOT HERE THROWING IT OFF OR FLUFFING IT OFF.
BUT WHAT I SEE, I AM NOT READY TO PUT A BAND-AID OR
SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BLEEDING YET, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW
IT IS GOING TO COME OUT.
IT MIGHT NEED STITCHES.
I AM TRYING TO BE AS PRACTICAL AS I HAVE BEEN LIKE I ALWAYS
HAVE BEEN IN MY OWN LIFE ,AND I CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS THAT I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESULT ARE GOING TO BE.
WE ARE TRYING TO YEARS AGO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN THIS
YEAR WHERE IT COMING IN.
I HOPE IT DOESN'T HIT FLORIDA AT ALL.
BUT WE HAVE TO CHANGE DIFFERENT THINGS, IN MY OPINION.
YOU CAN NOT REBUILD LIKE WHAT WE BUILD NOW.
BECAUSE THE SECOND FLOOR IS WOOD.
INSIDE DRY WALL.
WET FOUR, FIVE FEET YOU HAVE TO KNOCK THAT WHOLE HOUSE DOWN.
WE HAVE GOT TO CHANGE.
AND I SAID EVERY WEEK, YOU GOT TO THE BUILD DIFFERENTLY
WHERE NOTHING CAN REALLY GO DOWN AND THE WATER CAN'T GET IN.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:03:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE.
03:03:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
03:03:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
03:03:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A FEW THINGS.
ONE, CLEARLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS.
WE PASS THE CONTRACT FOR DESIGN-BUILD.
BUT WE DEFINITELY HAD SOME ADDENDUM AND COUNCIL INTENT WITH
THAT CONTRACT PASSING.
A COUPLE OF THOSE WERE BRISTOL IS OUT OF THE QUESTION WHICH
I UNDERSTAND ISSUE AT THE END OF BRISTOL AND HOWARD WHICH
ARE PROBABLY LOGISTICALLY TAKEN OFF THE TABLE.
03:03:42PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT.
03:03:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECONDLY --
03:03:46PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY I AM NOT AWARE OF THE
ISSUES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
03:03:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS IT GOING ON WITH THE BOX CULVERT
SIZE CHANGES?
IS THAT TRUE?
03:03:55PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY MODEL WHATEVER SIZE IS NEEDED AND THAT
SIZE IS SCOPE.
WELL WITHIN THE CONTRACT SCOPE ITSELF.
03:04:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAKES A REALLY SUBSTANTIAL IMPACT ON THE
INSTALLATION OF THOSE BOX CULVERTs, NOT NECESSARILY IF WE
STICK TO THE COMMERCIAL STREETS BUT THE GRAND TREE-LINED
NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOUSE, DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THOSE BOX
CULVERT WILL BE -- REALLY IMPACTFUL.
03:04:27PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DOUBLING SIZE OF THE BOX
CULVERTS EITHER.
BUT I WILL REITERATE WE ARE AWARE, EMPATHETIC AND SENSITIVE
WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS TOLD US.
WE MET THEM A FEW TIMES.
03:04:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECONDLY GOING TO THE ROUTES.
THE SWANN -- THE SWANN, HOWARD AND -- POSSIBLY CULVERT
UNDERNEATH THE PART AND USING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONGSIDE
THE EXPRESSWAY.
THAT STILL BEING EXPLORED.
03:05:02PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AS ONE OF THE OPTIONS
AND SHARE OUR FINDINGS ON JUNE 5.
03:05:08PM >> THE OTHER THING IS, WE HAVE AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE
TALKED TO YOU OFFLINE AND I WILL THROW THIS OUT HERE.
PART OF THE PROCESS.
TALKING OF THE RE-CREATION OF HOWARD HOW YOU ARE GOING TO
UNDERGROUND THE UTILITY.
I ACTUALLY WAS IN THE ROOM WITH TECO PEOPLE.
AND THEY SAID THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.
SO I KIND OF FEEL MISLED ON THAT.
I WAS TOLD THAT UNDERGROUND UTILITY IS PART OF HOWARD AND
RE-CREATION OF HOWARD AND PART OF STREETSCAPE, WIDENING,
UNDERGROUND UTILITY.
TECO SAID, NO, TOO COST PROHIBITIVE.
03:05:49PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YOU CAN SHARE WHO YOU SPOKE WITH.
TECO HAS NOT TOLD ME THAT IS HAPPENING.
03:05:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JOEL.
03:05:58PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I AM HAVING COFFEE WITH HIM, I THINK, TOMORROW.
SO I WILL TALK TO HIM.
03:06:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS SUBSTANTIAL, BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT
COMPONENT, I MEAN, YOU REALLY LOSE MOST OF ADVANTAGES.
WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT THIS, GOSH, A YEAR AND A HALF
AGO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SUBSIDIARY IMPACT AND BENEFIT
OF THE CITY TO RECREATE SOUTH HOWARD WITH SIDEWALK AND MAKE
IT A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ZONE.
IF YOU TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE SHIFTS THE DYNAMICS
FINANCIALLY.
I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE
ALTERNATIVE ROUTES.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS CLEAR WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND
I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE MEANINGFULLY LOOK AT
THOSE ROUTES.
THEA IS PUTTING UNDER BAY TO BAY AND CREATING THAT AS WELL,
CORRECT?
03:07:02PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THEY ARE WORKING ON A VAULT.
BUT I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE RELEVANCE IS.
03:07:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS TALKING TO THE THEA FOLKS AND
TALKING THE STORM SHEDDING WATER OFF OF THE EXPANSION AND
TIEING IT INTO OUR SYSTEM.
USING THE VAULT SYSTEM UNDERNEATH THAT BAY-TO-BAY AREA.
03:07:18PM >> WORKING WITH THEM ON THE PROJECT.
MET WITH GREG -- I WANT TO SAY LAST WEEK.
MIDDLE OF LAST WEEK.
S.W.F.W.M.D. IS IN TOUCH WITH THEM.
WE ARE IN TOUCH WITH THEM.
THEY ARE AWARE OF WHAT IS NEEDED.
REGULAR MEETINGS WITH THEIR MODELERS.
AND WE HAVE EARLY PLANS PHASES.
I THINK THEY RECOGNIZED WHAT THEIR STANDARDS ARE AND
WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THAT FOOTPRINT AND
WORK WITH OUR SYSTEM.
03:07:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PUTTING IN A VAULT, IS THERE OPPORTUNITY FOR US
AS WELL FOR THIS WATERSHED?
03:08:00PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THAT IS WHAT WE LOOK FOR ALWAYS AS PARTNERSHIP
OPPORTUNITY.
03:08:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE IF IT IS GOING IN, WHY NOT.
OKAY, VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
03:08:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES?
03:08:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT ON
FLOODING AND FLOOD VICTIMS.
YOU KNOW IN SOUTH TAMPA, THERE IS PORT TAMPA AND
WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE THAT WORK PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND THEY
LOST EVERYTHING.
PEOPLE ALONG THE COAST CULVERT BAYOU THAT LOST EVERYTHING
JUST LIKE THEY WERE IN NORTH TAMPA AND EAST TAMPA THE OTHER
ISSUE AND I AM MAKING UP THESE NUMBER.
LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A HOUSE THAT IS $2 MILLION.
AND THE INSURANCE PAYING YOU 200,000 AND FEMA GIVE YOU
$10,000.
OWN A MILLION OR MORE.
AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE.
I AM GETTING E-MAILS AND QUALITIES FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE
CRYING ON THE PHONE -- EITHER CRYING OR MAD BECAUSE THEY
WANT HELP.
AND THERE IS MILLIONS OR MORE DOLLARS GAP.
THEY STILL OWN THEIR MORTGAGE AND HAVE TO PAY AND NOT FOR
GIVEN ON IT.
MOVE OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.
PAY FOR ANOTHER PLACE.
FIGURE OUT HOW TO REBUILD THEIR HOUSE.
WHERE TO GET MONEY BECAUSE NO EQUITY IN THEIR HOUSE.
MOST PEOPLE THEIR BIGGEST ASSET IS THEIR HOUSE.
EVEN THOSE PEOPLE BEFORE THE STORM MAY HAVE BEEN WORTH A
COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS ON PAPER AND CLOSE TO BANKRUPTCY
AND LOST EVERYTHING IN THE STORM BECAUSE DIDN'T HAVE THE
RIGHT INSURANCE OR WHATEVER.
I WILL ASK EVERYBODY TO KEEP IN MIND THAT SO MANY OF OUR
FAMILIES AND FRIENDS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED AND ARE SUFFERING
THROUGH THIS AND COULD END UP BANKRUPT WILLING PEOPLE RICH
OR POOR THAT ARE TRYING TO SURVIVE.
OUR FUNDS TO HELP SUBSIDIZE PEOPLE WON'T WORK.
THE THING WE CAN TRY TO DO IS MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GET
FLOODED AND NEW PEOPLE DON'T GET FLOODED AGAIN THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU.
03:09:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
WE WILL SEE YOU JUNE 5.
LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
ITEM 71.
ABBYE FEELEY ONLINE?
03:10:11PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, I AM.
ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE AS I HAVE BEEN DOING ON A
DAILY BASIS, SLATED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH
PARTNERSHIP WITH CLARION ASSOCIATES.
THEY HAVE THE DRAFTING OF THE CODE.
03:10:31PM >> THIS IS ONE OF ASSOCIATIONS AT THAT TAKE LONGEST AMOUNT
OF TIME.
APPROXIMATELY FIVE MONTH.
I AM MEETING WITH THEM TOMORROW TO GO OVER A MORE DETAILED
SCHEDULE.
THE CODE WILL COME IN THREE INSTALLMENTS.
FIRST INSTALLMENT WILL COME IN TWO PART.
NEXT MONTH WHEN I REPORT, I WILL HAVE MORE DETAILED
SCHEDULE WHAT TO EXPECT AS WE GO INTO THIS NEXT PHASE OF
THIS UPDATE.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE.
AS ALWAYS, WE ARE HERE TO WORK THROUGH THIS WITH YOU, AS
WELL AS THE PUBLIC.
03:11:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:11:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I ASKED AT THE LAST UPDATE MEETING THAT THE CLARION STAFF
CIRCLE BACK TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I WAS HOPING THAT
WOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THE NEXT ITERATION.
CAN YOU TELL ME IF -- IF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S POSSIBLE?
DID YOU -- BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE WHEN I SAID THAT TOO.
03:11:30PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT IS ON MY AGENDA TO DISCUSS THAT AND GET
THE TIME FRAME AND LOOK AT THAT IN THE CONCEPT OF COUNCIL'S
SUMMER AGENDA.
YES, MA'AM, THAT IS ON THE AGENDA AND STILL THE INTENT.
03:11:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
03:11:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS FEELEY.
03:11:48PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THANK YOU.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
03:11:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE NEW BUSINESS?
03:11:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, SIR, I HAVE THREE FORM -- FORM -- WHAT
IT CALLED, AB?
THREE ABs FROM 36, 46 AND 47.
ASK TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:12:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
MOTION CARRIES.
ANYTHING ELSE?
03:12:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WILL MAKE
THIS MOTION, AND I WILL CONCEDE TO HIM.
YOU GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS WHEN HE HAD A TOWN HALL IN JACKSON PARK.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS DAVIS ISLAND PEOPLE
SAYING WHAT ABOUT THE DAVIS ISLAND STORMWATER ANALYSIS.
WHAT OF IT ARE YOU GOING TO IMPLEMENT.
AND MANY PEOPLE ON DAVE ISLAND HAVE NOT SEEN IT.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTED BEEN COUNSEL AND
THE DAVIS ISLAND FOLKS WOULD LIKE THIS PRESENTED BEFORE
COUNCIL.
DOCUMENT IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEB SITE AND NOT PUBLICLY
PRESENTED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF AND APPLIED
SCIENCES, THE CONSULTANT TO RETURN ON JUNE 5 TO PRESENT THE
DAVIS ISLAND STORMWATER ANALYSIS AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF
WHICH WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AHEAD OF THE 2025 HURRICANE
SEASON.
03:13:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SECOND THAT.
AND A NOTE THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS REPORT.
SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS OF THAT GROUP WERE THAT -- UNDER THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAD SEEN THAT REPORT.
SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IT IS DISCLOSED SO EVERYBODY
-- I WAS ABLE TO GET A COPY, AND I DID READ IT.
03:13:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE FTP REPORT REGARDING THE DAVIS
ISLAND ANALYSIS.
03:13:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A PRIVATE FIRM THAT THEY CONTRACTED WITH.
03:13:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IDEALLY.
DAVIS ISLAND IS ONE OF THE AREAS HARDEST HIT, AND IDEALLY,
SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO US A LONG TIME AGO AS IT WAS
DONE.
I HEARD THIRD HAND -- I DIDN'T GO TO THE MEETING BUT HEARD
FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
NOBODY HAD PRESENT IT BEFORE AND THE PUBLIC WAS ANGRY
BECAUSE IT WASN'T PRESENTED, AND PEOPLE CALLED ME TO SAY MAKE
SURE IT IS PRESENTED, AND WE HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF IT.
A LOT OFNEIGHBORHOOD THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON BILATERALLY
AND TO LOOK AT SOLUTIONS, BUT DAVIS ISLAND IS A HUGE PLACE
AND NOT FUNDAMENTALLY ADDRESSED ON HOW WE WOULD HELP THEM.
03:14:28PM >>THE REPORT I DID SEE IT AFTER THE TOWN MALL MEETING FROM
APPLIED CONSULTING.
BUT I DID GO THROUGH IT.
BECAUSE I AM SURE WE ALL GOT CONTACTED AFTER THE TOWN HALL
WITH CONCERNS AND WHATNOT.
MOWING AND A SECOND.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
03:14:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE SEVEN STAFF REPORTS THAT WEEK AND
SUPER BUSY.
IS THE 26TH THAT DAY?
TWO REVIEW HEARINGS EVERY SINGLE -- EVERY SINGLE PERSON OF
THE MONTH OR QUARTER.
03:14:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ANYTHING.
ANYTHING THAT I HAVE THAT I CAN MOVE.
03:15:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
INDIAN ROCKS ON SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
03:15:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE INDIAN ROCKS
BEACH TO SEPTEMBER --
03:15:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SEPTEMBER -- THE WEEK BEFORE THE 25th.
03:15:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW ABOUT THE 4th.
03:15:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SEPTEMBER 4.
03:15:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FROM JUNE 26 TO SEPTEMBER 4 UNDER STAFF
REPORT AS SOON AS OKAY.
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
NOW YOU ARE GOING TO PUT ON JUNE 26 UNDER STAFF REPORT.
03:15:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUNE 5.
03:15:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUNE 5 AFTER STAFF REPORT YOU WILL MOVE
THAT ITEM.
YOUR MOTION THE MOTION THAT HE STATED.
03:15:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO PUT A PRESENTATION OF THAT REPORT ON JUNE
5.
REPORT IS ALREADY DONE.
JUST A PRESENTATION.
03:15:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THE SECOND WAS FROM CLENDENIN.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
03:16:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, ONE OTHER THING.
A COUPLE COMMENT IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
ONE WAS THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
AND I -- AND I WAS REALLY SADDENED BY WHAT THEY PRESENTED.
I THINK I TOLD YOU ALL WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS THAT
FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO AFTER I PRESENTED TAMPA'S SCORECARD, I
PROPOSED A ECONOMIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SET UP AND 24 PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
ADMINISTRATION DECIDED TO RUN IT THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF
LETTING COUNCIL RUN IT.
AND A WHOLE SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS HOW TO FIX SYSTEMIC
POLICIES AND OTHER ISSUES WITH US PRO BONO WITH DATA AND
DATA ANALYTICS AND THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE THE
SAME TIME I WAS PRESENTING THE SECOND ROUND OF TAMPA'S
SCORECARD TO SAY -- YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ON CHANNEL 10.
A FEW ISSUES WE TO NEED ADDRESS IN TAMPA AND EVERYTHING IS
GOOD AND EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL.
AN ITEM OF LEADERSHIP IS YOU DON'T JUST HAVE PRESS
CONFERENCE -- YOU CAN'T MANAGE BY A PRESS CONFERENCE, YOU
HAVE TO ADDRESS SERIOUS ISSUES AND TRY TO RESOLVE THEM AND
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING EVERY WEEK HERE.
WE NEED AN ORGANIZATION IN PARTNER WITH US.
ULTIMATELY THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ECONOMIC ADVISORY
COMMITTEE.
24 SMART PEOPLE FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUND IN THE CITY WERE
COMPLETELY IGNORED AND RESULT OF FIVE YEARS FROM TAMPA
SCORECARD HAS BEEN COMPLETELY IGNORED BECAUSE ADMINISTERING
DOESN'T WANT TO FACE THE FACT THAT ADMINISTRATION IS
PERFECT.
IF YOU HAVE FIVE As AND Cs.
COMPLIMENT THEM.
AND THE SAME FOR THE ISSUE.
ANOTHER EMPLOYEE PUT HIS JOB ON THE LINE THIS MORNING TO
SPEAK AND I HAD PROBABLY 100 OR MORE PEOPLE REACH OUT
DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY AND I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO SOME OF
THEM THAT I HAVEN'T RETURNED THEIR CALLS YET.
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAID DON'T TALK TO THEM AND TELL THEM
THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL THEM IS TO CALL AN ATTORNEY.
WHEN I TELL AN EMPLOYEE OR TO FORMER EMPLOYEE TO CALL AN
ATTORNEY.
DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT SETS UP THE CITY TO BE
SUED.
AND ALSO THE EMPLOYEES COME BACK AND SAY NOW I HAVE TO SPEND
$45,000, $50,000 TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY AND COST A LOT MORE AND
THE CITY WILL DRAG IT OUT A COUPLE OF YEARS.
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CANCELLED THE CIVIL RIGHTS
INVESTIGATION OF RENTING WHILE BLACK.
WE HAVE A SERIOUS CULTURAL ISSUE IN THIS CITY AND I HAD -- I
CAN LET YOU LISTEN TO VOICEMAILS.
SO MANY PHONE CALLS AND E-MAILS FROM EMPLOYEES THAT REACH
OUT ME.
SO ADMINISTRATION, 2% HAVE ANY INTERACTION WITH CITY
COUNCIL AND YOU CAN'T BLAME IT ON US.
WE HAVE TO REALIZE AND ADMIT THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT
PEOPLE ARE MAKING RACIAL COMMENT.
THAT THERE IS RETALIATION -- RETALIATION FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION IS THE ONE THING I HEAR FROM EMPLOYEES.
AFRAID OF RETALIATION FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND A SAD
SITUATION.
LAST E-MAIL I SENT ANDREA ZELMAN ON THIS.
AND SAID BUTT OUT OF THIS BECAUSE BY CHARTER WE HAVE NO
INFLUENCE.
THE EMPLOYEE WANT US TO TRY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM -- FORMER
EMPLOYEES WANT US TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
WORKED AS AN CONSULTANT WITH 20 ORGANIZATIONS 20 OR 30
COUNTRIES.
I HAVE BEEN DEEP INSIDE AN ORGANIZATION, AND I NEVER SEEN A
CULTURE THAT HAS THIS MANY PROBLEMS AND NEVER SEEN A
LEADERSHIP WHO STICKS THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND AND NEVER WANT
TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS.
ONLY RESPONSE TO BLAME CITY COUNCIL OR ME, WHATEVER.
THIS IS A SYSTEMIC ISSUE WHERE PEOPLE ARE AFRAID.
YOU HEARD THE PERSON THIS MORNING AND TWO A FEW MONTH AGO.
GOT AN ISSUE THAT WE CONTINUED FOR A FEW MORE MONTH.
PLEASE SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP.
MEET WITH ME.
COME UP WITH SOLUTION.
THE EMPLOYEES OF THIS CITY DESERVE TO BE TREATED BETTER.
THEY DESERVE TO HAVE A POSITIVE CULTURE WHERE THEY CAN
THRIVE AND HAVE A CAREER.
NOT WHERE THEY ARE A FRAYED OF GETTING RETALIATION.
RETALIATION, I HEARD HUNDREDS OF TIMES FROM CURRENT
EMPLOYEES.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
03:20:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, ANY NEW BUSINESS?
03:20:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
03:20:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:20:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO NEW BUSINESS, BUT TO TALK ABOUT THE TOWN
HALL, I HAD AT KATE JACKSON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID
EARLIER.
THAT WAS ISSUE, THE OTHER ABOUT ISSUE FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION
AND CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT PERSONALLY OR PRIVATELY AND THE BIG
ISSUE PARKING ON HYDE PARK AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S OFFICE
HAS BEEN TOP OF THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
THE POPULARITY OF THESE EVENTS IN HYDE PARK IS STRESSING OUT
AND SOME OF THE OTHER ADJACENT STREETS.
AND PROBABLY OTHER THAN FLOODING THE HOTTEST TOPIC OF THE
TOWN HALL WERE THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE OF GETTING
BLOCKED IN, EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS PARKING IN HYDE PARK
VILLAGE.
I ASSURED THEM I WOULD BRING IT TO COUNCIL.
A WORK GROUP BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND IT IS
OKAY IF COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WANTS TO TAKE IT ON BECAUSE
YOU GUYS WORKED ON IT A LOT.
A COMPLEX ISSUE.
I PERSONALLY OBSERVE IT AND SEE PROBLEMS THAT ARE THERE.
THE VILLAGE IS NO LONGER A SLEEPY PLACE.
MORE AND MORE POPULAR AND EVENTS FOR THE WEEKEND.
DEFINITELY STRESSING OUT THOSE FOLKS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANT TO DEAL WITH IT, BUT I PROMISED
THAT I WILL BRING IT UP IN COUNCIL.
IN.
03:21:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:21:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, WE PASSED A BRAND-NEW PARKING SECTION
OF THE ORDINANCES AND ACTUALLY RELIEF FOR RESIDENTS NOW IN
THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS HE CAN DO IS DO PARKING PERMIT FOR THAT
AREA.
PERMIT ONLY.
WE CAN ALSO -- IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IN SOME AREAS THEY HAVE
GONE TO ONE SIDE OF THE STREET PARKING ONLY DUE TO THAT VERY
THING.
NARROW STREETS.
ABSOLUTELY THING THAT CAN BE DONE.
I AM WORKING WITH ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD NOW ON THAT VERY
ISSUE.
SO ABSOLUTELY -- WE CAN ABSOLUTELY GET THING DONE.
BUT I WILL GO THROUGH THE NEW ORDINANCE.
03:22:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE IT IS SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
I DIDN'T WANT TO OVERSTEP I HAVE JUST SHARING INFORMATION
THAT I GOT.
I AM WILLING TO BRING THAT FORWARD AND GET TIM ON IT,
BUT I ALSO WAS TOLD BY -- BY HOW HALLWAYS THAT WHISPERS
THAT MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON'S OFFICE ALREADY
WORKED ON THE ISSUE.
03:22:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
03:22:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WORKED AT PARKING IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF
HYDE PARK.
NOT THAT PARTICULAR ONE.
IF YOU WANT TO WORK ON IT, I DON'T CARE.
WE CAN PARTNER WITH IT OR IF YOU TALK WITH STAFF MAYBE ASK
THEM TO UPDATE ME ON IT.
I USED TO LIVE IN HISTORIC HYDE PARK.
AND I WAS ALWAYS AGAINST RESIDENTIAL PARKING BECAUSE I HAD
PLENTY -- THE SPACE IN FRONT OF A HOUSE IS NOT OWNED BY A
HOMEOWNER.
SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
IF I HAVE AN EVENT WHERE FAMILY COME OVER, I WANT MY FAMILY
TO PARK WHEREVER THEY CAN.
03:23:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BY THE WAY.
03:23:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SAME THING WITH OTHER PEOPLE, AND IF I AM NOT
USING, WHY DO I CARE WHO WORK IN FRONT OF ME.
CERTAIN EVENTS AND NIGHTS THAT MAYBE IF THEY ARE BIG EVENTS
SHUT DOWN ONE LANE.
AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF WE KEEP WANTING TO INVESTIGATE PARKING, WE CAN COME UP WITH IT.
I'M FACING ANOTHER ISSUE PROVIDED RESIDENTIAL PARKING NEAR
PLANT HIGH FOR COUPLE OF BLOCK AND PUSHED THE STUDENT IN
DIFFERENT AREAS AND MADE PARKING WORKS.
SOME WANT RESIDENTIAL PARK.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
YESTERDAY, A REPORT THAT A FEMALE STUDENT WAS THREATENED BY A
HOMEOWNER WHO SAID IF YOU COME BACK WITH TIRES AT THE END
OF DAY.
NOT ACCEPTABLE.
YOU DON'T OWN THE SPACE IN FRONT OF JUSTICE HOUR AND YOU
CAN'T THREATEN KIDS.
WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT WILL RESOLVE THE
PISSUE FOR EVERYONE.
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO LIVE TOGETHER AND WE NEED TO PUT INTEREST
ON BICYCLES AND OTHER TRANSPORTATION.
03:24:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE RIDE SHARING PROGRAM AND BICYCLES MAY
COME IN HANDY.
IT IS GETTING THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE WITH EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND PEOPLE
WHO PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
IT WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE IF YOU HAVE
VISITORS AND RESIDENTIAL PERMIT.
YOU HAVE A PARTY AND PEOPLE CAN'T PARK.
THERE IS NOWHERE TO PARK.
03:24:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ANOTHER THING, IF I MAY, NEIGHBORHOODS I HAVE
LOOKED AT, THEY STARTED LOOKING AT IT.
ONCE YOU DESIGNATE SPACES AND SAY THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL
ONLY, THAT USUALLY REDUCES THE CAPACITY BY HALF.
BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS THEMSELVES.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEMSELVES PARK CLOSE TO THEIR OWN
DRIVEWAY AND PARK CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION AND PARK TOO
CLOSE TO CERTAIN PLACES.
AND THEY SOMETIME PARK OPPOSITE DRIVEWAY.
ONCE YOU PUT UP ANOTHER SIGNS, HALF OR MORE OF PARKING
SPACES ARE GONE.
ONCE THEY REALIZE THEY ARE GOING TO LOST LOSE SPACES DON'T
LIKE THE IDEA OF RESIDENTIAL SPACES.
03:25:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE TEN-FOOT
RULE.
DAMNED IF YOU DO OR DAMNED IF YOU DON'T.
IF YOU ENFORCE THAT, YOU LOSE THE PARKING SPOTS, ESPECIALLY
IN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ONE DRIVEWAY AND VERY
NARROW LOTS.
THERE IS ONE SPOT.
BUT THAT ONE SPOT MAY BE LESS THAN 10 FEET IN THE DRIVEWAY.
03:25:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:25:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHICH IS WHY I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT RULE.
I LIVED IN CITY IN URBAN CORE WHERE IS YOU PARK RIGHT UP TO
THE DRIVEWAY.
AID DRIVEWAY LIKE THAT.
IT COULD FIT FOUR CARS.
WE NEVER HAD FOUR CARS.
WHEN WE HAD PEOPLE, EVERYBODY HAD TO BACK OUT NARROWLY.
BUT THAT IS LIVING IN A CITY.
IF WE WANT -- I MEAN, I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY HAVE THE
DISCUSSING ABOUT REDUCING THE AMOUNT NECK TO A DRIVEWAY
MULTIPLE THINGS WE CAN DO.
03:26:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO A WORKSHOP.
03:26:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAYBE.
FLESH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND EVERYBODY COME UP WITH
IDEAS AND BRING IT BACK.
03:26:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS AN IOU TO THE GROUP.
LET'S FLESH IT OUT, BUT I MAY POTENTIALLY BRING IT UP FOR A
WORKSHOP.
03:26:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM AND WE CAN'T PARK LIKE A SUBURB
ANYMORE.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
ON-STREET PARKING IS PUBLIC.
WHAT THEY DID IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BEHIND THE SEA HOUSE.
THE POPULAR FOR THE STREET BEHIND.
NOT RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMITS.
PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET ONLY.
AND I SWEAR TO YOU NOT THREE WEEK LATER, SOMEONE HAD A
GARAGE FIRE, A WOOD -- OVER 100-YEAR-OLD HOUSE AND THEIR
SEPARATE GARAGE CAUGHT FIRE.
I NEVER SEEN FLAMES LIKE THAT.
HAPPENED TO BE WALKING WITH A FRIEND.
AND WE SAW THE SMOKE AND WALKED UP TO IT.
IF THEY HAD NOT GONE TO ONE-SIDE-OF-THE-STREET PARKING, NO
WAY THE FIRE ENGINE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE.
IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE LUCK THAT HAD STARTED.
THEY HAD A HARD TYPE MAKING PUSHES.
BUT THAT IS A WHOLE ANOTHER STORY.
EITHER WAY IF WE CAN DO NOTHING ELSE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY
START LOOKING AT ONE SIDE OF THE STREET PARKING.
I RECOMMEND THAT 100% EVEN BEFORE WE START HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION ABOUT.
AND HIS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL WITH THAT.
03:27:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANKS.
03:27:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:27:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I WANT TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT CAME BEFORE US
THIS MORNING REGARDING THE CITY OF TAMPA'S RACIAL
RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
MAYBE I AM DOING A LITTLE BIT OF TEACHING AND A LITTLE BIT
OF REMINDING WHEN WE UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED THIS COMMITTEE.
IT CLEARLY STATE -- AND THIS IS ONLINE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT
TO READ IT UNDER RACIAL RECONCILIATION.
WE CREATED THIS COMMITTEE TO REVIEW, STUDY AND MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, TO US, AND TO THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
NOW THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US AND TO
THE CITY, CITY OF TAMPA AND CITY COUNCIL.
THE PEOPLE WE SELECTED, IN MY OPINION, WERE ALL ABLE TO PICK
AND CHOSE EXPERT IN A VARIETY OF AREAS.
THE CDC, THE BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, FEEDING TAMPA BAY,
THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, MY PICK, AFRICAN STUDY
AND ANTHROPOLOGY.
CHURCH MEMBER, THE HIT CENTER, A. BROWN MINISTRY AND FLORIDA
RISING.
THESE PEOPLE ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR AREAS AND THEY ALREADY
HAVE ANSWERS ON DAY ONE, BASED ON THE CATEGORIES THAT THEY
ARE ASSIGNED TO IN TERMS OF THIS COMMITTEE, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT, YOUTH UNIT, ETC., THEY CAN
PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US.
THAT WAS WHAT WAS ASKED WHEN WE CREATED THIS COMMITTEE.
THE DISAPPOINTMENT FOR ME FOR ME TO HEAR THE EDITORIAL THAT
BE DID SOMETHING WRONG.
PROVIDED THE RESOURCES AND THE FUNDING TO PUT IN PLACE WITH
THE -- PARTNERED WITH THE JOHN SCOTT FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF
GOVERNMENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA TO PROVIDE THE
FACILITY TAKE TO THE COMMITTEE.
WE USED THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA COLLABORATION OF
GOVERNMENT TO PARTNER WITH AND SUBJECT AREA EXPERT, ALL OF
THAT STUFF.
AT THIS POINT, SEVERAL MEETING THAT TOOK PLACE IN DECEMBER,
FEBRUARY, AND MARCH.
APRIL 22.
AND NOW HERE WE ARE TODAY ON APRIL 30, AND WE GET THIS
EDITORIAL AS THOUGH WE ARE NOT DOING SOMETHING.
RECOMMENDATIONS IN MY OPINION SHOULD OCCUR THROUGH THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WE PICKED WITH THE EXPERTS IN THE
FIELDS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST.
ALSO, I DO RECOGNIZE -- I KNOW THAT THEY DID ASK THE CITY
FOR A LOT OF INFORMING FOR THE CITY EMPLOYEES TO FILL OUT
QUESTIONNAIRES.
NOW ,I AM GOING TO ADDRESS THIS FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT
WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE.
I GOT OVERWHELMED BY THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONNAIRES THAT CAME
IN FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
EVERY NIGHT SPENDING AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME FILLING OUT
THESE QUESTIONS AND I GOT TO THE POINT SAYING, STOP.
I CAN'T DO THIS.
TAKING UP AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AND PLUS I HAD TO GO
MEET WITH THE PUBLIC AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AND HAVE ALL THE
FORM.
THINK OF THAT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF YOU SENDING OUT THIS
HUGE DOCUMENT THAT WE WANT OUR STAFF TO ANSWER WHEN WE
ALREADY KNOW THEY ARE OVERWHELMED.
THE RACIAL CONSIDERING COMMITTEE.
VALUABLE QUESTIONS BUT WE DO NOT NEED TO RELY ON CITY STAFF
TO GET THE DATA BUT ON EXPERT OF THE ORGANIZE ALL OF THE
ORGANIZES THAT EXIST THAT MAKE UP THAT RACIAL RECONCILIATION
COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE THOSE RESPONSES EACH AND EVERY MEETING.
EACH AND EVERY MEET WHERE THEY HAD THE WORKSHOP.
I AM JUST SAYING THAT FROM THE STANDPOINT WHAT IS ACTUALLY
DOCUMENTED IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING.
I WAS A LITTLE BLINDSIDEDED TO WHEN THEY GOT UP AND
PRESENTED THEIR POSITION.
WHEN IT CLEARLY STATES INLINE WITH THE PUBLIC THAT IT IS THE
COMMITTEE THAT WILL BE MAKING THE REPRESENTATIONS TO COUNSEL
AND TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
NOT FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, BUT TO MAKE IT
EVEN FAIR.
NOT TO INFLUENCE THE PROCESS.
BY GIVING OUR INPUT.
THAT IS WHY THE COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED.
I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, AND I AM SAYING THAT
PUBLICLY BECAUSE I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO DO SO.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS AND I LEARNED THIS BECAUSE I HAVE
GOTTEN IN THE WEEDS PIVOTING WITH ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH
AN EMPLOYEE THAT CAME BEFORE US TODAY.
HAPPEN A LOT FOR ME DEPENDING ON WHEN I AM WITH THE CITY
WHERE THE EMPLOYEES WANT TO TALK TO ME OF SOMETHING, AND I
LEARNED THIS FROM HART AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND HART.
NOT CITY COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO GET INTO EMPLOYEE MATTERS
BECAUSE ONE THING FOR SURE WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE ARE ONLY
HEARING ONE SIDE OF THE SITUATION.
AND IT MAY PLUG AN INTEREST.
FOR EXAMPLE, AS WE FOUGHT WAS DROPPED INTO THOSE THREE PLACES,
IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING IF WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON
ASPHALT THAT WE COULD NOT USE AND IT WAS DUMPED.
WE HEARD IT AND THE STAFF HEARD IT TOO AND URGE STAFF TO
FOLLOW UP ON WHAT IS BEING SAID.
BUT A COUNCIL, IT IS NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO GET INVOLVED
IN EMPLOYEE MATTERS THAT WAY.
THAT IS DEFINITELY TRUE, BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER I HAD TO
RECUSE MYSELF WITH A VOTE INVOLVING A PREVIOUS MEMBER OF
THIS COUNCIL.
THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
EVEN THOUGH WE CAN EMPATHIZE WITH SITUATIONS, I WANT TO SAY
THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE A
LOT OF DECISION AND SOME MATTERS THAT WE CAN ENGAGE IN A WAY
THAT, YOU KNOW, PUTS US IN A POSITION WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE TO
VOTE ON IT DOWN ROAD.
SOMETHING WHERE WE ARE INVOLVED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF
MAKING A DECISION.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
03:34:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CARLSON AND CLENDENIN.
03:34:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST WANT TO RESPOND.
03:34:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WAS BLINDSIDED BY THE COMMENT OF THE
COMMITTEE THIS MORNING.
WE DON'T GET TO APPOINT PEOPLE INDIVIDUALLY TO TOO MANY
COMMITTEE.
WHEN I DO IT, I DON'T TALK TO THEM AT ALL.
NOT CARRYING WATER FOR ME.
THEY ARE CARRYING WATER FOR THEMSELVES.
SO I -- MY APPOINTEE, I NEVER SPOKEN TO HER ABOUT THAT
COMMITTEE.
I DON'T KNOW FROM HER POINT OF VIEW WHAT IS HAPPENING.
BUT SIMILAR TO OTHER THING LIKE WHEN EAST TAMPA CAC CAME TO US
WITH PEOPLE FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS WHO MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE
WITH EACH OTHER BUT THEY AGREE TO COME BEFORE YOU AND STAY
THERE WAS AN ISSUE.
WHAT I GLEAM IS THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR INFORMING FROM OUR
CITY AND THEY DIDN'T GET IT.
BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO.
BUT THEY COMPLAINED THAT THE CITY WAS NOT COOPERATING AND
NOT BEING TRANSPARENT.
SO WITH THAT GROUP, A VERY POWERFUL AND INFLUENTIAL GROUP
THIS MORNING AND I WAS SURPRISED THEY SAID THAT. .
03:35:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ARE YOU REALLY?
WHEN THE CITY DECIDED UP FRONT THEY WOULD NOT PICK ANYONE TO
SIT ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
ARE YOU REALLY THAT SURPRISED?
03:35:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SEEMS THAT THEY DIDN'T FIGHT PUTTING US
TOGETHER.
AND SO ANYWAY, I AGREE YOU WITH, PEOPLE WITH DEEP
BACKGROUNDS AND GIVE US ADVICE.
USF MAY BE GIVING DAY-TO-AND ASK THE ADMINISTERING TO
COOPERATE WITH THEM.
EVIDENTLY AS I SAID BEFORE, IF YOUR KID HAS FIVE As AND
A C.
DON'T HIDE THE C BECAUSE WE GOT FIVE As AND C.
YOU SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON THE FIVE As, LET'S FIX THE C.
WE ACKNOWLEDGED WE HAVE ISSUE AND FIX THEM.
MY MESSAGE TO EMPLOYEES THAT WE REALLY CAN'T HELP YOU.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT WE CAN'T HAVE LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM
BECAUSE THE ARGUMENT MAY BE IN LITIGATION.
ALL WE CAN REALLY SAY IS GO TALK TO HR OR TALK TO A LAWYER.
ALL WE CAN DAY.
AND VERY FRUSTRATING.
BUT FRUSTRATING TO KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION APPEAR TO
NOT ENGAGE THIS IN A POSITIVE WAY.
FIVE ADVISING FROM A PR PERSPECTIVE.
ADVISING THIS ADMINISTRATION.
YOU NEED TO ALLOW MORE TRANSPARENCY TO THIS AND ALLOW A
PROCESS YOU DON'T CONTROL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ISSUES ARE
AND RESOLVE THEM.
THIS MAYOR CAN TAKE CREDIT OF RESOLVE AGRICULTURAL ISSUE
THAT MAY HAPPENED UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION.
FIRST YOU CAN ACKNOWLEDGE A PROBLEM AND KEEP COMING FORWARD
AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE DEADLINE THIS MAYOR'S TIMELINE GET
SHORTER AND SHORTER.
MORE THE FOLK COME UP AND TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICALLY BECAUSE THIS
IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
EVEN PAM IORIO, THE MOST POWERFUL MAYOR IN 30 PEOPLE CAME
OUT OF THE WOODWORK TALKING OF HER.
PEOPLE ARE NOT AFRAID.
03:37:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS TRUE.
BUT THEY TALK ABOUT US AS WELL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO MENTION IS ONE
OF THE CONSTITUENTS -- SHE IS NOT ON THE COMMITTEE.
I AM NOT AFRAID TO SAY HER NAME.
KEELA McCASKILL.
EVERYTHING SHE SAID IS A GREAT RECOMMENDATION THAT THE
RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE CAN ACTUALLY REQUEST.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY.
THAT THE ANSWERS ULTIMATELY DON'T HAVE TO COME FROM THE CITY
THROUGH THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE TO BE PRESENTED
BACK US TO AND THE CITY.
03:38:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:38:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO SAY I HAVE BEEN UNEASY ALL DAY SINCE
THE ONE GENTLEMAN STOOD BEFORE US TODAY AND PUT ALL THOSE
THINS OUT WILL BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT, AND I WILL TRULY DIGEST IT
AND UNDERSTAND OUR ROLE.
WE HAD THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS, AND MY BACKGROUND ON HUMAN
LABOR RELATIONS, I KNOW MOST OF TIME WHAT MY ROLE IS AND HOW
TO PERFORM IN THESE SITUATIONS.
I AM UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE OF THE TYPES -- WHEN THAT
DISCUSSING HAPPENED, IT WAS A LOT THING THAT CAME OVER THAT
CROSSED A LEGAL LINE.
I AM WONDERING IF IT IS OUR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY AS A LEGISLATIVE
OVERSIGHT BODY WITH INVESTIGATION POWER FOR THESE ALLEGATIONS
THAT WILL BE TRULY ILLEGAL, ARE WE NOT -- ARE WE NOT
FULFILLING OUR LEGISLATIVE RESPONSIBILITY WITH AN
INVESTIGATION TO PURSUE THOSE.
I AM NOT GOING TO PUT OUR ATTORNEY ON THE SPOT.
BUT MR. SHELBY, WILL YOU REPORT BACK TO US MAYBE NEXT WEEK
OF WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY ARE WHEN AN LIKE THAT IS MADE
PUBLIC THAT BE MAY BE ILLEGAL WHETHER WE ARE OBLIGATED TO DO
THAT INVESTIGATION?
[ INAUDIBLE ]
I THINK IT IS A GOOD PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
03:39:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO DIFFERENT -- MAY I?
TWO DIFFERENT PIECES.
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE HR ISSUE.
IF THE EMPLOYEE ALLEGES THERE IS FRAUD OR MISUSE OF
RESOURCES.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IN OUR DOMAIN.
03:39:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
03:39:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHY WE NEED TO GET THAT ANSWER.
03:39:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PUT IT TO BED IF NOTHING IS THERE.
YOU GO TO A POLICE OFFICER AND TELL THEM SOMETHING AND YOU
CAN'T TAKE IT BACK, THE PERSON HAS TO INVESTIGATE IT.
DID THAT CROSS THAT LINE FOR US.
DID THEY SAY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO INVESTIGATE BUT A IT
IS ILLEGAL.
03:39:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN SHARE WITH COUNCIL.
AN E-MAIL WAS COPIED TO ME BY JOHN BENNETT WHO SENT IT TO
CHRISTINE GLOVER, THE INTERNAL AUDITOR AND COPIED ME AND
ANDREA ZELMAN, REGARDING THE -- THE DISCUSSING AT PUBLIC
COMMENT THIS MORNING.
AND IF IT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, I CAN FORWARD THAT TO YOU SO
THAT YOU CAN BE APPRISED OF IT AS WELL I WANT NOW KNOW DATED
10:05 FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE INTERNAL AUDITOR.
MR. BENNETT WAS THERE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL
FORWARD THEIR TO YOU.
03:40:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:40:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE MADE SOME COMMENT.
I WILL SAY THIS ON THE HR ISSUE AND I HAVE PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE FROM THIS THAT I CAN TALK ABOUT NOW BECAUSE IT IS
ALL DONE.
THAT WHEN YOU GET INVOLVED IN A POTENTIAL LEGAL ISSUE, YOU
BECOME A PERSON WITH KNOWLEDGE, OKAY.
AND YOU BECOME A POTENTIAL WITNESS.
IF IT GOES INTO LITIGATION.
SUBJECT TO SUBPOENA AND POTENTIAL DEPOSITION.
I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I WAS INVOLVED IN SOMETHING THAT, BY THE
WAY, I DID THE RIGHT THING CONSISTENT WITH MY VALUES AND HOW
MY MOTHER AND FATHER.
AND I HAD A TEXT THAT WAS PUT IN A LAWSUIT IN A COMPLAINT.
IF YOU EVER WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT FEEL LIKE, IT SUCKS.
IT DOES.
BUT I DID THE RIGHT THING.
HOW MY MOTHER AND FATHER RAISED ME.
NO PROBLEMS, BUT YOU GOT TO BE SMART AND DEFER TO LAWYERS --
NOT ME OBVIOUSLY, BUT, YEAH, JUST MY THOUGHTS.
A COUPLE OF THING IF I MAY WITH REGARDS TO THE RACIAL
RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
HEARD THE MEMBERS AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR WORK.
AND A COUPLE OF THING TO BALANCE.
FIRST, YOU KNOW, START -- REMARKS TENDED TO BE TOWARD THE
EXECUTIVE.
STRAIGHTFORWARD THE ADMINISTRATION.
START OF THE IDEAL.
CALLED IT A MISSED OPPORTUNITY WHEN THIS COMMITTEE WAS
PROPOSED AND I STAND BY THAT, LACK OF FORMAL INVOLVEMENT
FROM THE ADMINISTRATION WITH REGARD TO APPOINTEES.
I THINK THAT SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE.
I WENT TO MOST OF MEETINGS EXCEPT FOR ONE, THE VERY FIRST
ONE, THAT POINT GET BROUGHT UP.
FRANKLY, IF IT STRUCK A CORD THAT IT CONTINUES TO GIVE A
WRONG IMPRESSION, IF YOU WILL.
NEGATIVE IMPRESSION.
IT IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY MITIGATION.
I WAS AT MEETING WITH PASTOR HARRIS AND CHIEF JOHN BENNETT.
I THINK THE DECISION BY THE ADMINISTRATION WAS A MISSED
OPPORTUNITY, TERRIBLE.
IF WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHIEF BENNETT WITH ENGAGEMENT AND
A COMMON GROUND.
AND I KNOW SOMETHING ELSE BEING SET UP FOR THAT.
SO THERE IS ENGAGEMENT IN THAT REGARD, BUT, AGAIN, THAT LACK
OF FORMAL INVOLVEMENT THROUGH MEMBER PARTICIPATING AND
APPOINTEES BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
WHEN I HEARD THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO IT.
I THOUGHT THAT SENT A BAD MESSAGE.
AND ONE THAT CONTINUES TO GIVE, I THINK, A BAD UP PREGNANCY.
THERE ARE MITIGATION POINTS, POINTS.
THE TWO BIG ISSUES ARE -- AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID
THIS CORRECTLY -- THESE ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND
RELYING ON THEM TO GIVE US IDEAS AND THEY ARE GOING FORWARD
WITH THAT.
OUR ATTORNEY, MR. SHELBY, HAS BEEN IN AT EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
MY AIDE, BRANDON, HAS BEEN TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
I HAVE BEEN TO THE MAJORITY OF THE MEETINGS AND SOME OF YOU
STAFF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN THERE AS WELL AND THIS COUNCIL
STRONGLY SUPPORTED IT, FUND IT, AND SO FORTH.
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING.
AND BIG THING I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, AND I SAID IT TO THE
COMMITTEE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT THEY REALLY HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY.
WE HAVE A MAYOR'S SELECTION AND A CITY COUNCIL'S SELECTION
WHAT THEY PROPOSE CAN BE TALKED ABOUT WITH FOUR CANDIDATES.
THAT IS THE BIG THING.
IF YOU WANT TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE ON ISSUE OF SOCIAL JUSTICE
AND EQUITY, THIS COMMITTEE IS A GOOD WAY TO DO THAT FOR THIS
COUNCIL FOR THE TIME REMAINING AND CHALLENGE CANDIDATES TO
TELL THE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU STAND ON THESE ISSUE.
THAT, TO ME, SHOULD BE THE FOCUS.
AGAIN, WHEN IT COME TO CRITICISM OF THE ADMINISTRATION ON
THIS COMMITTEE, I HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR IN THAT REGARD FROM
THE BEGINNING ON THAT MISSED OPPORTUNITY.
BUT THERE HAS BEEN MITIGATION AND THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON
THAT.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUICK MOTIONS.
AND HER MOTHER IS TURNING 100.
A MOTION -- WHO IS ORIGINALLY FROM HARLEM.
BORN IN 1925, IMAGINE THAT, HARLEM DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE
GREAT MIGRATION.
UNIQUE WOMAN OF HISTORY.
WE ARE GOING TO SET THAT UP FROM WHENEVER THAT HAPPEN.
ALL OF COUNCIL.
AND I WILL MAKE A MOTION.
03:44:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:44:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NEXT, I WILL DO A STAFF REPORT AND STRIKE THAT,
A WRITTEN REPORT AROUND K-BAR RANCH PRIDE ELEMENTARY.
BIG TRAFFIC PROBLEM AND ALWAYS HAVE.
CITY STAFF AND MOBILITY TO REACH OUT TO OUR FRIENDS IN K-BAR
RANCH, CONNECT WITH THE WAYS MOBILITY TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC
SAFETY, ESPECIALLY FOR KIDS, TO REPORT US TO IN WRITING THE
THIRD WEEK OF JULY ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ROUTE REACHED, TO
WHOM THEY SPOKE AND THE PLAN OF ACTION GOING FORWARD AND IF
THEY NEED MORE TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT.
03:45:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT A MOTION.
03:45:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, A MOTION.
03:45:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
03:45:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON THE THIRD, A DISABILITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM
THAT I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT
ARE HELPING OUT WITH IT.
THERE IS A LOT CONCERN.
I WANT TO TALK -- I WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION BEFORE CITY
COUNCIL ON.
APPEARS THAT JULY 23, 2025, WE HAVE ROOM FOR A WRITTEN --
STRIKE THAT, A STAFF REPORT.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I SAW THAT INCORRECTLY.
03:46:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JULY 23.
03:46:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
31st.
IN PERSON.
03:46:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LIMIT TO FOUR STAFF REPORTS AND NO
COMMENDATIONS OR PRESENTATIONS.
03:46:17PM >> THIS WILL BE THE LAST ONE.
THERE ARE THREE.
03:46:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL TAKE IT.
03:46:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS A MOTION FOR
JULY 31 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
03:46:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, AN IN-PERSON REPORT OF
HOW THE PROGRAM OPERATES.
AND I WOULD LIKE FOR A REPORT ON THE FOLLOWING.
WHAT DEPARTMENT ARE ACCEPTING INTERNS WITH -- WITH SPECIAL
NEEDS AND WHICH ARE NOT AND WHY.
AND THEN TO ASK PROVIDERS TO COME AND TO GIVE INPUT.
EITHER IN WRITING NOR PERSON DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:46:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
03:46:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
A COUPLE -- THIS IS NOT A MOTION WE HAD PAUL GUZA HERE
TODAY.
I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AND IN TERM OF HOW THIS WORD IT.
ON THE BURIAL PLOTS AND THE ITALIAN CLUB AND SOMETHING THAT
MR. GUZA WAS TALKING ABOUT OR ISSUES THAT THE STATE OF
FLORIDA.
THE CFO WILL MANAGE THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE
BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION.
TWO QUICK THING AND NOT MOTIONS.
I WANTED TO SAY, I SAW COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN'S TOWN HALL.
AND THAT WENT GREAT AND EVERYTHING.
I ALWAYS INVITE -- ESPECIALLY CITY RIDES IF YOU EVER WANT TO
HAVE TOWN HALL IN NEW TAMPA.
I WOULD LOVE TO INTRODUCE YOU AND GET THE HELL OUT SO I
DON'T VIOLATE SUNSHINE.
I KNOW, RIGHT.
AND THEN LASTLY, IF I MAY.
ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT -- MAKE A MOTION.
WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CANNOT BE
CALLED OUT BY NAME.
I WAS CALLED OUT BY TONY ELLSWORTH AND A GOOD CALLOUT.
SAID LUIS VIERA IS A GREAT GUY.
LOVES VETERANS.
MY NAME WAS CALLED AND VIOLATED THE RULE.
CLENDENIN CLEAN WASN'T DECEPTIVE.
03:48:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I KNOW, VIOLATES THE RULE THAT YOU CAN'T CALL
OUT A MEMBER NAME, CORRECT.
IF SOMEBODY GOES LUIS VIERA IS A GREAT GUY, I AM NOT GOING
TO GO, RIGHT, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
IF LUIS VIERA IS NOT A TERRIBLE PERSON.
THAT RULE IS NOT CONTENT NEUTRAL.
AND WE GOT TO GET RID OF IT.
I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION OF THAT.
EITHER WE ENFORCE IT AND THE NECK TIME TONY SAYS LUIS VIERA
IS AWESOME.
LET'S STOP HIM FROM SAYING THAT OR GET RID OF THE RULE.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT PRECLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:48:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ASSUME THAT TONY DANIELS WILL NEVER COME
UP AND TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE --
03:48:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TONY WILLIAMS, NOT FOR ELLSWORTH.
I AM ALL FOR CHILD SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
03:48:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:48:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I SPEAK LONGER THAN MY COLLEAGUES --
ONE LITTLE SENTENCE.
YOU KNOW I WAS LISTENING EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PARKING AND
THE DRIVEWAY AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.
AND THE TIME FROM ONE STATION TO A CALL.
AND KIND OF ERRATIC IN THIS CITY WHEN I WAS MUCH YOUNGER ARE
STAGE OR SO, THERE WAS NO AIR CONDITIONING IN NONE OF THOSE
CARS.
THE AMBULANCES WERE HALF THE SIZE AND DIDN'T HAVE THE
EQUIPMENT.
NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 350 CHASSIS IN THE BOTTOM.
CERTAINLY THE FIRE ENGINES THAT WERE THERE.
SOMEBODY RING THE BELL.
AND NOW YOU HAVE ALL THE AQUATIC EQUIPMENT AND SOMETHING
$800,000 AND 900,000 AND MAYBE $10,000, $20,000 FOR FIRE
ENGINES AND THE STREETS HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY WIDER.
AND GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT THROUGH SUCCESS FROM 3:30 UNTIL
6:30 LEAVING DOWNTOWN, IT IS TERRIBLE.
AND IF YOU GET ON THE EXPRESSWAY WITHOUT AN ACCIDENT, IT
WILL TAKE YOU 30 MINUTES TO GO FROM DOWNTOWN AROUND IF YOU
ARE IN THE EXPRESSWAY TO GET OFF.
SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DELAYS AND I THINK NO MATTER HOW MANY
STATIONS FOR FIRE AND POLICE WILL TAKE TIME BECAUSE WE DO
NOT HAVE WHAT WE HAD BEFORE THAT WAS SMALLER VEHICLE ON THE
SAME SIZED ROADS THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN HEAR
THING OUTSIDE.
YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING A CAR.
YOU GOT TO LOOK TO SEE IF YOU SEE THE RED LIGHT AND THAT'S
HOW YOU SEE IT.
MIRACULOUSLY THEY GO THROUGH.
I DON'T SEE HOW.
THEY DESERVE A HOOT AND A HOLLER OF SAYING DON'T RUN OVER
ANY CARS AND VEHICLE BECAUSE WHAT I SEE THERE IS NOTHING BUT
DANGER.
AS FAR PARKING ANOTHER A DRIVEWAY, THE CLOSER YOU GET, THE
MORE OFTEN YOU WILL BE GET HIT.
03:50:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:50:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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