TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 15, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:05:26AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:05:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:05:30AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:05:32AM ORDER.
9:05:32AM ALL RIGHT.
9:05:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:05:37AM I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK FOR THE INVOCATION.
9:05:39AM YES, MA'AM.
9:05:40AM A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
9:05:44AM PLEASE STAND FOR THAT AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF
9:05:46AM ALLEGIANCE.
9:05:47AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:06:02AM PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
9:06:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:06:03AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:06:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:06:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:06:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:06:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:06:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:06:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:06:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:06:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:06:30AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:06:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:06:32AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM MAY 1, 2025 AND
9:06:36AM EVENING SESSION HELD ON MAY 8, 2025?
9:06:38AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:06:40AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:06:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:06:42AM AYE.
9:06:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
9:06:47AM RECONSIDER A PRIOR DECISION OF THE CITY COUNCIL FROM THE
9:06:51AM LAST REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, WHICH WAS TWO WEEKS AGO
9:06:55AM DURING THE DAY, BUT IT WAS THE LAST REGULARLY SCHEDULED
9:06:57AM MEETING.
9:06:58AM I WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE.
9:07:00AM THE VOTE WAS FOR CHAIR AND MAYBE ALSO VICE-CHAIR.
9:07:03AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THAT.
9:07:07AM THE REASON IS THAT AFTER THE MEETING, WE HAD A MEETING TO
9:07:12AM DISCUSS DECORUM AND WE FOUND OUT BRIEFLY IN THE MEETING BUT
9:07:16AM THEN DISTURBINGLY IN AN ARTICLE IN THE TIMES LATER THAT THE
9:07:19AM MAYOR HAD SENT A VERY STRONGLY WORDED LETTER TO US.
9:07:23AM I WILL PASS OUT COPIES OF THIS THAT HAS A COPY OF THE LETTER
9:07:28AM THE MAYOR SENT, THE ARTICLE IN THE TIMES, AND THEN ALSO THE
9:07:31AM E-MAIL FROM THE CHAIR'S STAFF PERSON.
9:07:34AM THE MAYOR SENT THIS LETTER TO THE CHAIR ON MARCH 14.
9:07:38AM THE ARTICLE WAS ON MAY 8.
9:07:40AM AND THEN WE RECEIVED IT ON MAY 12.
9:07:43AM I'M DISTURBED BY THAT BECAUSE THE CHAIR IS SUPPOSED TO BE
9:07:47AM ELECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND REPRESENT THE CITY COUNCIL.
9:07:50AM AND WE ASKED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WHAT THE AGENDA
9:07:53AM WAS.
9:07:53AM THE LETTER HAD NOT BEEN PUT INTO OnBase AND WE WERE NOT
9:07:57AM INFORMED IN DETAIL WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS GOING TO BE
9:08:00AM ABOUT.
9:08:00AM MY MOTION IS TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE FOR CHAIR -- TO
9:08:06AM RECONSIDER THE VOTE FOR CHAIR THAT WE HELD AT THE LAST
9:08:09AM REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
9:08:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:08:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:08:14AM I WOULD ASK FOR THIS, FOR CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO AND FOR
9:08:18AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WE HAVE SOME PRESENTATIONS.
9:08:22AM THIS MAY REQUIRE SOME ROBUST COMMENTS AS WELL AS
9:08:27AM CONTEMPLATION ON THE PARTS OF MEMBERS, ET CETERA.
9:08:30AM I WOULD ASK THIS BE DONE AFTER OUR THREE PRESENTATIONS JUST
9:08:34AM BECAUSE THIS MAY REQUIRE SOME TIME.
9:08:36AM AND I WOULD HATE, IF WE HAVE SOME, INCLUDING A VERY
9:08:39AM MEANINGFUL PRESENTATION, A COUPLE OF THEM, IN FACT.
9:08:42AM I WOULD HATE FOR THESE FOLKS TO HAVE TO WAIT DURING THIS,
9:08:46AM WHICH IS -- AGAIN, I HAVE MY FEELINGS ON IT, WHICH I WILL
9:08:49AM SHARE.
9:08:50AM BUT I'D ASK THAT THIS BE DONE AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS, IF AT
9:08:54AM ALL POSSIBLE.
9:08:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'VE ALREADY MADE A MOTION, CORRECT?
9:08:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: AS WE UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE TWO MOTIONS.
9:09:02AM ONE IS TO RECONSIDER.
9:09:03AM THE SECOND WOULD BE FOR THE VOTE.
9:09:05AM IF THERE'S NOT SUPPORT TO RECONSIDER, THERE'S NO SENSE
9:09:08AM CONTINUING ON.
9:09:09AM IF WE COULD VOTE TO RECONSIDER.
9:09:10AM IF THERE ARE THE VOTES, THEN MAYBE I'LL MAKE A SEPARATE
9:09:14AM MOTION JUST TO HAVE THE VOTE FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATIONS.
9:09:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR MOTION.
9:09:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, AS BEING ONE
9:09:24AM OF THE VOTES ON THE PREVAILING SIDE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
9:09:27AM MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE FOR CHAIR THAT WAS HELD AT THE
9:09:29AM LAST SCHEDULED MEETING.
9:09:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:09:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SECOND.
9:09:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH THE SECOND.
9:09:35AM DISCUSSION?
9:09:35AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:09:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE.
9:09:44AM ABSOLUTELY 110% CORRECT.
9:09:47AM HOWEVER, YOU SAID MAY 12, MAY 14, WHATEVER IT IS, ARE WE
9:09:50AM SAYING THE MAYOR HAD AN INFLUENCE IN PICKING OF THE CHAIR?
9:09:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M NOT SAYING ANY OF THAT.
9:09:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SAYING THAT.
9:09:57AM WHAT IS THE REASON FOR BRINGING IN THE MAYOR'S NAME?
9:09:59AM I'M NOT HERE TO PROTECT THE MAYOR.
9:10:01AM I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY.
9:10:03AM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW WHY.
9:10:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY POINT IS THE MAYOR SENT A LETTER AND WE
9:10:06AM DIDN'T SEE IT UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING.
9:10:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IS THE CAUSE FOR THE
9:10:11AM RECONSIDERATION?
9:10:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE WE NEED A CHAIR WHO -- MY REASON IS
9:10:15AM WE NEED A CHAIR WHO REPRESENTS CITY COUNCIL AND WOULD NOT
9:10:19AM ALLOW US TO WALK INTO A MEETING BLIND, AND GET BLINDSIDED BY
9:10:24AM THAT DISCUSSION.
9:10:25AM WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS WHEN WE WALKED IN.
9:10:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REALLY DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT THEY
9:10:30AM THINK ABOUT ME.
9:10:31AM THIS IS THE MOST DYSFUNCTIONAL COUNCIL I'VE EVER WORKED
9:10:35AM WITH.
9:10:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT ME, CHARLIE.
9:10:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT SAYING INDIVIDUALS.
9:10:39AM I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THIS.
9:10:42AM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:10:44AM YOU HAVE TO GET USED TO IT NOWADAYS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE
9:10:48AM WHOLE COUNTRY IS.
9:10:49AM DIVIDED ON ONE SIDE, TORE UP ON THE OTHER SIDE.
9:10:56AM WHEN WE WERE KIDS, ALL OF US GROWING UP, WE DIDN'T HAVE
9:10:58AM ANYTHING AND EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY.
9:11:00AM NOW WE HAVE A LOT MORE AND VERY FEW ARE HAPPY.
9:11:04AM THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH US, ALL OF US.
9:11:07AM THIS COUNTRY IS FALLING APART FOR WHATEVER REASON.
9:11:15AM IT'S NOT ABOUT DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS.
9:11:16AM IT'S ABOUT HUMANS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
9:11:19AM AND IT'S TIME THAT WE STOP THIS BICKERING AND STOP DOING --
9:11:25AM AND START DOING THE JOB WE WERE HIRED FOR THE CITIZENS OF
9:11:28AM THE CITY.
9:11:29AM THIS IS EVERY WEEK.
9:11:33AM YOU KNOW WHAT, CALL IT QUITS, GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE.
9:11:40AM I CANNOT TAKE THIS MUCH LONGER.
9:11:43AM THOSE WHO SPEAK EVERY WEEK -- WHAT ARE WE HERE FOR?
9:11:56AM SERVE OURSELVES?
9:11:59AM I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT THE MAYOR SAYS.
9:12:01AM ALL SEVEN OF US GOT ELECTED HERE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE
9:12:05AM THAT WE DO EVERY WEEK.
9:12:07AM HOWEVER, THEY BLAME THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT ON THE MAYOR.
9:12:13AM I'M NOT HERE TO REPRESENT THE MAYOR.
9:12:15AM I HAVE NEVER TALKED TO THE MAYOR ABOUT THIS AND I'LL TAKE AN
9:12:18AM OATH AND LIE DETECTOR TEST.
9:12:22AM WHERE IN THE WORLD ARE WE GOING?
9:12:24AM FIRST OF ALL, THE ONE THAT LEFT FROM THE CRA HAD NEVER
9:12:28AM WORKED FOR THE MAYOR.
9:12:29AM THE CRA IS A COUNCIL RESPONSIBILITY HEADED BY THE COUNCIL,
9:12:32AM AND SHE LEFT.
9:12:34AM YOU WANT TO BLAME HER ON THAT ONE?
9:12:37AM WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS THAT LEFT?
9:12:43AM WHAT ABOUT THE ONE WE HIRED AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING.
9:12:47AM CALLS 10:00 AT NIGHT WHEN HE SAW US ON TV AND SAID I DON'T
9:12:51AM WANT TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS.
9:12:52AM YOU GUYS ARE DISRUPTIVE.
9:12:54AM THAT IS A LIE TOO?
9:12:55AM CALL HIM.
9:12:56AM HE'LL TELL YOU.
9:12:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE FOLKS IN ORDER.
9:12:59AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:13:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.
9:13:03AM HATE TO DO THIS.
9:13:05AM I HAD DONE THE SECOND ONLY SO WE COULD VOTE ON THIS AND THEN
9:13:09AM HAVE THE REMAINING AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS.
9:13:12AM FOR PURPOSES OF THAT, I HEREBY WITHDRAW MY SECOND.
9:13:17AM I DO WANT TO GET TO THIS MOTION, AGAIN, I WANT TO GET TO IT
9:13:20AM AFTER PRESENTATIONS.
9:13:21AM THAT'S WHY I DID THE SECOND.
9:13:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANOTHER SECOND TO KEEP IT
9:13:26AM GOING?
9:13:26AM IF NOT, WE'LL HOLD IT UNTIL AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
9:13:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS MY INTENT.
9:13:30AM TO HOLD IT AFTER.
9:13:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO OTHER SECONDS.
9:13:32AM THE SECOND IS WITHDRAWN.
9:13:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL DO IT AFTER THE --
9:13:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:13:36AM MR. SHELBY, I HAVE TO GO OVER THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND
9:13:41AM THE ADDENDUM.
9:13:43AM YOU GO THROUGH THE RULES AND PROCEDURES OF PUBLIC COMMENT
9:13:50AM AND I'LL DO THE HOUSEKEEPING.
9:13:51AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:13:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
9:13:53AM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY,
9:13:56AM CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:13:57AM I'M HERE TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR THE
9:14:03AM CONDUCT OF TODAY'S MEETING.
9:14:04AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
9:14:07AM AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING, AFTER THE CEREMONIAL,
9:14:09AM TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES
9:14:12AM OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM.
9:14:13AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
9:14:16AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:14:17AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
9:14:20AM YOU ARE TO PLEASE REMAIN -- REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE
9:14:26AM BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR
9:14:31AM MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING
9:14:35AM SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:14:35AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL
9:14:38AM ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBER
9:14:41AM OF THE PUBLIC.
9:14:42AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:14:45AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
9:14:48AM COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:14:50AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL RULES MAY
9:14:53AM ALSO BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE
9:14:56AM CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF
9:14:59AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:15:00AM NOW, IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM SET FOR A PUBLIC
9:15:03AM HEARING, YOU'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN THE ITEM IS HEARD
9:15:07AM LATER IN THE AGENDA.
9:15:08AM NOW NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN DURING STAFF REPORTS.
9:15:11AM THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS AND THE ITEMS ON THE
9:15:13AM CONSENT AGENDA IS DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:15:17AM NOW, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU
9:15:20AM HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BY FILLING OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND
9:15:24AM PLACING IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS, ONE CARD PER
9:15:27AM SPEAKER.
9:15:28AM CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
9:15:30AM COMMENT.
9:15:31AM EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
9:15:34AM APPROACH AND SPEAK.
9:15:35AM A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
9:15:37AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
9:15:39AM A NAME THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
9:15:42AM IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE THE CITY STAFF.
9:15:45AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:15:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:15:47AM HOUSEKEEPING, MEMBER FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN PULLING
9:15:49AM ITEM 35 FOR DISCUSSION.
9:15:51AM HEARD FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:15:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ACTUALLY HAD A BRIEFING WITH THE LEGAL
9:15:56AM STAFF YESTERDAY, AND THEY ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD
9:15:59AM PERTAINING TO ITEM 35.
9:16:01AM UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY ISSUE --
9:16:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO PULL IT FOR SEPARATE
9:16:06AM DISCUSSION.
9:16:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PULL ITEM 35.
9:16:07AM UNDER STAFF REPORTS OR SEPARATE VOTE WHEN WE GET TO THE
9:16:10AM COMMITTEE?
9:16:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: SEPARATE VOTE.
9:16:15AM SEPARATE DISCUSSION.
9:16:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PULL IT AT THE COMMITTEE TIME.
9:16:18AM NOT AT STAFF.
9:16:20AM I'LL KEEP NUMBER 35 IN MIND OR WE WILL KEEP NUMBER 35 IN
9:16:24AM MIND WHEN WE GET TO THAT.
9:16:25AM I'LL GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS.
9:16:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 45 AND 46 FOR SEPARATE
9:16:34AM VOTE.
9:16:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN THE TIME COMES, SEND A VERBAL
9:16:38AM REMINDER.
9:16:38AM 45 AND 46 PULLED FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:16:42AM ALL RIGHT.
9:16:42AM STAFF REPORTS.
9:16:43AM IS THERE AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE?
9:16:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, DIRECT COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO TWO
9:16:49AM ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
9:16:52AM IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
9:16:55AM REGARDING THOSE ITEMS.
9:16:57AM I WONDER IF COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER AMENDING ITS ORDER OF
9:17:01AM BUSINESS, IF IT SO CHOOSES OR JUST KEEP THEM WHERE THEY ARE.
9:17:05AM THEY ARE ITEMS NUMBER 67 AND 68, AND THEY BOTH CONTEMPLATE
9:17:13AM THE RENAMING OF A PARK, OR IN THIS CASE, A PLAYGROUND,
9:17:18AM PARTICULARLY I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WITH REGARD
9:17:20AM TO LISA MARIE CHESSER NAMING.
9:17:24AM AND THEY WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
9:17:27AM WOULD COUNCIL ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR
9:17:32AM THOSE TWO ITEMS BECAUSE THEY ARE FIRST READING
9:17:34AM CONSIDERATION?
9:17:35AM AND WOULD COUNCIL CONTEMPLATE WANTING TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR
9:17:39AM LEAVE THEM WHERE THEY ARE?
9:17:40AM IT'S UP TO YOU.
9:17:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CHANGED OUR RULES SO THEY CAN SPEAK ON
9:17:47AM FIRST READING.
9:17:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE ALL HERE THIS MORNING AND THEY
9:17:50AM WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY --
9:17:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 67, 68 TO THE
9:17:57AM FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS AFTER THE COMMENDATIONS.
9:18:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: AFTER COMMENDATIONS OR PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:18:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN DO THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK TO
9:18:07AM THE ISSUES AND THEN DO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:18:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE FINE.
9:18:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
9:18:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
9:18:14AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:18:14AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:18:15AM I'LL GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS.
9:18:18AM CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT, ANYTHING FOR ADMINISTRATION UPDATE
9:18:20AM TODAY?
9:18:21AM >>JOHN BENNETT: NO, CHAIR.
9:18:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:18:22AM I'LL GO THROUGH THE ITEMS.
9:18:24AM 72, WOULD WE LIKE STAFF PRESENT?
9:18:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE GOT A BRIEFING ON THIS ALREADY.
9:18:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 72.
9:18:33AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:18:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS TALKING TO MYSELF.
9:18:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO ON 71.
9:18:37AM HOW ABOUT 73?
9:18:38AM 72 IS NO STAFF NEEDED IN PERSON.
9:18:42AM ITEM 73, YES.
9:18:45AM YES ON 73.
9:18:47AM HOW ABOUT 74?
9:18:48AM IT'S $5 MILLION.
9:18:52AM NO ON 74.
9:18:53AM HOW ABOUT 75?
9:18:54AM NO ON 75.
9:18:57AM 76?
9:18:58AM THAT'S A NO.
9:19:03AM ITEM NUMBER 77, YES, WILL BE IN PERSON.
9:19:06AM 78, YES, WILL BE IN PERSON.
9:19:08AM 79?
9:19:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF I MAY, FOR 79, YES.
9:19:18AM WE HAD ALSO MOTIONED TO HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER COME AND
9:19:21AM BRIEF US ON THE STATUS OF STATION 24.
9:19:23AM SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEING DONE TODAY OR FOR THE NEXT
9:19:26AM QUARTER, BUT JUST MAKING A REFERENCE TO THAT.
9:19:28AM YEAH, I WOULD SAY SINCE 79 GOES WITH 78.
9:19:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:19:33AM THEN I'LL MAKE A NOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE SIMILAR.
9:19:36AM ITEM NUMBER 80, IS DO WE NEED FOLKS IN PERSON?
9:19:39AM THERE IS A MEMO FROM MRS. WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR WYNN.
9:19:44AM THIS IS ABOUT THE INCREASING THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM TO
9:19:47AM POTENTIALLY 72 PARTICIPANTS.
9:19:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M FINE.
9:19:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE HER COME.
9:19:55AM SO MUCH PUBLIC INTEREST.
9:19:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SPOKE TO AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE
9:19:59AM PUBLIC AT CHRISTMASTIME SAYING I WOULD SUPPORT IT.
9:20:02AM I WANT TO KEEP MY PROMISE.
9:20:04AM ITEM 81.
9:20:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, FOR 81, I HAVE TO MAKE SOME CALLS IN
9:20:10AM BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
9:20:12AM SO YES FOR THIS.
9:20:13AM BUT I MAY NEED TO CONTINUE OR SEEK TO CONTINUE, BUT YES FOR
9:20:20AM NOW.
9:20:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 82?
9:20:21AM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. MULKEY.
9:20:26AM NO ON 82.
9:20:27AM HOW ABOUT 83?
9:20:28AM NO ON 83.
9:20:34AM HOW ABOUT 84?
9:20:35AM 84?
9:20:37AM WMBE AND SLB CONTRACTORS. I'M SORRY.
9:20:45AM CARL BRODY IS ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION TO JUNE 5th TO
9:20:49AM PRESENT.
9:20:50AM LET MOVE 84 TO JUNE 5 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:20:52AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:20:54AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:20:55AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:20:56AM AYE.
9:20:56AM WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS, MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 85, 86,
9:21:00AM 87, 88.
9:21:01AM WE HAVE A MOTION.
9:21:02AM SECOND FROM -- MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:21:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:21:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:21:07AM AYE.
9:21:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY.
9:21:09AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY ITEM 86 IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
9:21:17AM IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE RULES TO ALLOW MOTOR HOMES TO BE IN
9:21:20AM FRONT OF PEOPLE'S HOMES.
9:21:21AM WE HAD AN ISSUE THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW OF THE LEGALITY OF THAT
9:21:25AM AFTER THE HURRICANES.
9:21:26AM NOW WE'VE COME BACK TO HAVE A SOLID RULING ON THAT TO ALLOW
9:21:34AM THAT, SO PEOPLE CAN LIVE IN THEIR RV ON THEIR PROPERTY WHILE
9:21:38AM FIXING THEIR HOMES.
9:21:39AM IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING AS WE BEGIN THIS NEXT SEASON.
9:21:45AM I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WAS DONE.
9:21:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 88, THEY ARE ASKING FOR A
9:21:50AM CONTINUANCE TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE COUNCIL MEETING.
9:21:51AM THESE ARE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS.
9:21:53AM IS THERE ROOM ON JUNE 5th UNDER WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS?
9:21:56AM MOTION FOR 88 TO BE CONTINUED TO JUNE 5, 2025 UNDER WRITTEN
9:22:05AM STAFF REPORTS?
9:22:05AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:22:07AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:22:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:22:09AM AYE.
9:22:10AM WE HAVE A CONTINUANCE REQUEST ON 65 BUT CAN'T DO ANYTHING
9:22:21AM UNTIL THEN.
9:22:22AM MR. SHELBY.
9:22:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:22:26AM WITH REGARD TO THOSE ITEMS THAT NEED NO DISCUSSION, WILL
9:22:29AM COUNCIL THEN PLEASE TAKE CARE OF THOSE AFTER ALL THE OTHER
9:22:32AM ITEMS ON THE CONSENT SO THEY CAN MOVED THIS MORNING.
9:22:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER WE DO CONSENT?
9:22:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, AT THE END OF CONSENT.
9:22:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST REMIND ME OR REMIND US, CLERK.
9:22:43AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:22:45AM WE'LL GO TO COMMENDATIONS.
9:22:46AM COUNCILMAN VIERA IS GOING TO START WITH GOLD STAR FAMILIES
9:22:49AM AND THEIR PRESENTATION ABOUT MEMORIAL DAY.
9:22:52AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:23:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE KIDS HAD BEEN HERE A LITTLE LONGER
9:23:05AM THAN I ANTICIPATED.
9:23:06AM THERE'S TESTING TODAY.
9:23:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY.
9:23:10AM >> I DON'T THINK KIDS WILL OBJECT TO BEING LATE TO A TEST.
9:23:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 2, COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:23:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE CHAIR AND FELLOW
9:23:27AM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:23:27AM GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
9:23:31AM TODAY I AM PRESENTING A COMMENDATION FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:23:35AM TO THE SLIGH MIDDLE SCHOOL ROBOTICS CLUB.
9:23:42AM I'LL READ THE COMMENDATION WITH THE STUDENTS IN FRONT OF ME
9:23:45AM FOR EFFICIENCY AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE
9:23:48AM SOMEONE COME UP AND SPEAK.
9:23:50AM WHEREAS, THE CITY OF TAMPA TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN RECOGNIZING
9:23:53AM THE EXCEPTIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE ACADEMY AT SLIGH MIDDLE
9:23:58AM MAGNET SCHOOL ROBOTICS CLUB.
9:24:00AM IN ONLY THEIR SECOND YEAR, THE TALENTED STUDENTS HAVE
9:24:03AM DEMONSTRATED OUTSTANDING SKILL, TEAMWORK, AND DEDICATION,
9:24:06AM EARNING COMMENDABLE SUCCESS IN THE FIELD OF ROBOTICS.
9:24:09AM AND WHEREAS, THE ROBOTICS CLUB HAS EXCELLED IN COMPETITION
9:24:12AM WITH THREE OF ITS TEAMS EARNING FIFTH PLACE RANKINGS AMONG
9:24:17AM 20 COMPETITORS, A TESTAMENT TO PERSEVERANCE AND TECHNICAL
9:24:21AM EXPERTISE.
9:24:21AM FURTHERMORE, THE CLUB'S RECEIPT OF THE ESTEEMED
9:24:24AM SPORTSMANSHIP AWARD REFLECTS ITS COMMITMENT TO INTEGRITY,
9:24:28AM COLLABORATION, AND EXCELLENCE.
9:24:29AM AND WHEREAS, THE UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
9:24:34AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE UNANIMOUS ALLOCATION OF
9:24:37AM SOCIAL ACTION IN ARTS FUNDS THROUGH THE BULLARD FAMILY
9:24:42AM FOUNDATION HAS PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN FOSTERING ACADEMIC
9:24:45AM EXCELLENCE, CRITICAL THINKING AND TEAMWORK AMONG ITS
9:24:48AM INNOVATORS.
9:24:49AM NOW, THEREFORE, ON THIS 15th DAY OF MAY, HISTORIC OLD CITY
9:24:52AM HALL, THE CITY OF TAMPA PROUDLY COMMENDS THE ACADEMY AT
9:24:56AM SLIGH MIDDLE SCHOOL ROBOTICS CLUB EXPRESSING SINCERE
9:25:00AM ADMIRATION FOR THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS AND DEDICATION TO
9:25:03AM ADVANCING S.T.E.M. EDUCATION AND INNOVATION.
9:25:06AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:25:06AM THIS WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS, AS I SAID,
9:25:21AM THROUGH THE BULLARD FOUNDATION.
9:25:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:25:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:25:29AM THADDEUS BULLARD, AKA TITUS O'NEIL.
9:25:35AM I FIRST AND FOREMOST WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
9:25:38AM FOR HER UNWAVERING SUPPORT ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE
9:25:41AM COUNCIL FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
9:25:44AM AS MANY KNOW, I DO A LOT IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT SLIGH MIDDLE
9:25:48AM MAGNET SCHOOL HAS BEEN A PROJECT OF MINE SINCE 2015 TO TURN
9:25:52AM THE SCHOOL FROM AN F SCHOOL INTO WHERE WE ARE NOW, B STATUS
9:25:55AM SCHOOL, WHICH IS WHY I'M VERY GLAD YOU SKIPPED AHEAD SO WE
9:25:58AM COULD GET THE KIDS BACK TO TESTING.
9:26:01AM THESE KIDS WENT FROM NOT HAVING A ROBOTICS CLUB AT ALL TO
9:26:04AM FIELDING THREE ROBOTICS TEAMS.
9:26:10AM THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF JOY, NOT WHERE THEY PLACED AT, BUT
9:26:14AM MORE IMPORTANTLY, THREE TEAMS THAT COME FROM THE ZIP CODE
9:26:20AM CHILDREN LIVING IN POVERTY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
9:26:23AM AT ONE POINT, THIS SCHOOL WAS VERY INSIGNIFICANT, THESE
9:26:27AM CHILDREN, THESE FAMILIES, AND THESE PEOPLE WORKING HARD,
9:26:29AM TEACHERS COLLECTIVELY, ARE SHOWING MORE AND MORE THAT THEY
9:26:32AM ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT, NOT ONLY TO THE SUCCESS OF THE SCHOOL,
9:26:38AM BUT THE SUCCESS OF THE COMMUNITY.
9:26:39AM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ADDRESS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO
9:26:45AM WHAT MR. MIRANDA WAS SPEAKING ON IN REGARDS TO MY DISGUST
9:26:50AM WITH POLITICAL -- THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE.
9:26:53AM IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU GUYS HARDLY SEE ME IN THIS
9:26:57AM CHAMBER.
9:26:58AM ONE OF THE REASONS YOU'LL NEVER SEE ME IN TALLAHASSEE OR IN
9:27:01AM D.C.
9:27:01AM MY LIFE WAS CHANGED BY PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE.
9:27:06AM BEING A PERSON THAT WAS A PRODUCT OF A MOTHER RAPED AT 11,
9:27:14AM HAVING ME AT 12 YEARS OLD, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE INFLUENCE
9:27:18AM AND INVESTMENT FROM PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, DEMOCRAT,
9:27:21AM REPUBLICAN, MUSLIM, CHRISTIAN, I WOULDN'T BE IN THE POSITION
9:27:24AM THAT I'M IN TODAY, TO NOT ONLY ASK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR
9:27:28AM SUPPORT, BUT ALSO BE ABLE TO BE A LIGHT FOR THESE CHILDREN.
9:27:32AM AND IN RETURN, THESE KIDS ARE A CONSTANT LIGHT, NOT JUST
9:27:36AM THEM, BUT EVERY KID THAT I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE,
9:27:39AM WHETHER IT'S HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OR THROUGHOUT THE
9:27:42AM GLOBE AS GLOBAL AMBASSADOR FOR THE WWE.
9:27:45AM I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THERE HAVE BEEN MANY DAYS THAT I'VE
9:27:50AM WOKEN UP, LIKE, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING AS ADULTS?
9:27:54AM WONDERING WHAT CAN WE DO ON A CONSISTENT BASIS TO CHANGE THE
9:27:59AM NARRATIVE OF WHAT A GOOD HUMAN BEING LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT
9:28:03AM GREAT OPPORTUNITIES CAN DO FOR PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF
9:28:06AM LIFE, NOT ONLY IF YOU HAVE, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE.
9:28:10AM I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE MY ENTIRE LIFE AND I'LL BE
9:28:13AM FINE.
9:28:13AM I'M DEBT FREE.
9:28:14AM I'M STRESS FREE.
9:28:15AM MY KIDS ARE IN COLLEGE.
9:28:18AM BUT I DO THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK ME ALL THE TIME, WHY DO I
9:28:21AM DO WHAT I DO FOR PEOPLE?
9:28:22AM HOW CAN I NOT?
9:28:24AM I'M VERY FORTUNATE.
9:28:25AM YOU GUYS AND LADIES AND THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE VERY
9:28:30AM FORTUNATE.
9:28:31AM EVERY DAY WE GET A CHANCE TO WAKE UP AND BE ABOVEGROUND.
9:28:36AM SO WHAT'S THE CHOICE?
9:28:37AM MY CHOICE IS TO CONTINUOUSLY PUT BACK THE GRATITUDE AND
9:28:42AM DIGNITY THAT WAS PLACED INTO ME, INTO THESE KIDS AND THESE
9:28:45AM FAMILIES.
9:28:46AM AND I AM VERY UNAPOLOGETIC ABOUT THAT.
9:28:49AM I HAVE ZERO DESIRE TO EVER RUN FOR ANY OF YOUR OFFICE, THE
9:28:52AM MAYOR, THE PRESIDENT, THE GOVERNOR.
9:28:55AM SO I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE VERY OPEN AND HONEST AND
9:28:59AM TRUTHFUL, WHICH I THINK TRANSPARENCY AND TRUTHFULNESS IS
9:29:03AM SOMETHING THAT IS A LOST ART IN THE LAND OF POLITICS.
9:29:07AM SO I ASK WHETHER IT IS THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A CHANCE TO
9:29:12AM SPEAK ON DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU DON'T, YOU CONDUCT
9:29:15AM YOURSELF, MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT, BE STRONG IN YOUR ARGUMENT BUT
9:29:21AM DON'T ATTACK PEOPLE.
9:29:21AM IT'S NOT GOING TO RESOLVE ANYTHING.
9:29:23AM OUR KIDS ARE WATCHING.
9:29:25AM AND THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY AT THE END OF THE DAY IS THAT
9:29:30AM IT'S NOT THE CARS OR THE CLOTHES OR THE HOUSE THAT I
9:29:34AM PROVIDED TO MY KIDS.
9:29:35AM IT'S A GOOD LAST NAME.
9:29:37AM AND THAT IS THE BEST GIFT I CAN EVER GIVE TO MY FAMILY.
9:29:41AM THE BEST GIFT I CAN GIVE TO MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE AT ONE
9:29:44AM POINT WHEN MY LIFE WAS INSIGNIFICANT, PEOPLE MADE IT TO THE
9:29:48AM POINT WHERE I CAN HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANCE.
9:29:49AM SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE.
9:29:54AM I THANK YOU FOR NOT ONLY YOUR ABILITY TO SIT UP HERE ON A
9:29:57AM CONSISTENT BASIS AND HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO HEAR, MAKE VOTES
9:30:00AM ON WHAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE VOTES ON, BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:30:03AM BUT THE NUMBER ONE PROMISE THAT I WOULD ASK ALL OF YOU TO
9:30:07AM KEEP IS THAT YOU DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE THIS
9:30:13AM COMMUNITY BETTER.
9:30:14AM NOT BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF SOMEONE'S SKIN OR THEIR
9:30:17AM POLITICAL AFFILIATION OR WHERE THEY COME FROM, BUT BECAUSE
9:30:22AM IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
9:30:23AM GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
9:30:24AM THANK YOU.
9:30:24AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:30:37AM YOU ARE A GOOD MAN, MR. BULLARD AND TO ALL THE STUDENTS.
9:30:40AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
9:30:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:42AM GOLD STAR FAMILIES.
9:31:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:31:10AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:31:11AM WE HAVE HERE TWO WONDERFUL PEOPLE EVERY YEAR FOR MEMORIAL
9:31:15AM DAY.
9:31:16AM WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR GOLD STAR FAMILIES COME AND TALK TO US
9:31:18AM ABOUT THE MEANING OF MEMORIAL DAY.
9:31:20AM WE HAVE TWO REALLY REMARKABLE PEOPLE HERE.
9:31:23AM MEMORIAL DAY IS COMING UP.
9:31:25AM I THINK THIS IS THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING -- THIS IS THE LAST
9:31:29AM ONE WHERE WE CAN HAVE A PRESENTATION ON MEMORIAL DAY.
9:31:33AM TWO WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
9:31:34AM MS. LORI FLEMMING.
9:31:35AM LORI'S SON WAS SERGEANT TERRY MICHAEL LISK WHO WAS KILLED IN
9:31:41AM ACTION ON JUNE 26 OF 2006 OF INJURIES SUSTAINED WHEN HIS
9:31:45AM UNIT RECEIVED FIRE FROM ENEMY FORCES IN IRAQ.
9:31:51AM JOINED THE UNITED STATES ARMY IN 2004 KNOWING HE WOULD BE
9:31:55AM DEPLOYED IN A POST-SEPTEMBER 11th WORLD.
9:31:57AM HE CARRIED FORWARD.
9:31:59AM LEFT BEHIND A FAMILY, INCLUDING THEN A SEVEN-YEAR-OLD
9:32:02AM DAUGHTER.
9:32:03AM WHEN SERGEANT LISK WAS KILLED IN ACTION, THE NEW YORK TIMES
9:32:07AM PROFILED THAT, THAT WHEN HIS BODY WAS RETURNED TO THE UNIT,
9:32:11AM ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE THERE STOOD UP AND SALUTED
9:32:14AM IT.
9:32:15AM INCLUDING AN INDIVIDUAL HURT AND IN A STRETCHER.
9:32:19AM WE HONOR THE LEGACY OF AGENT LISK.
9:32:28AM >> WE HAVE ANNETTE KIRK.
9:32:32AM PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.
9:32:33AM NEXT YEAR THEY WILL BE HAVING THEIR CONVENTION HERE IN
9:32:36AM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:32:38AM HERSELF, SHE, ALONG WITH HER HUSBAND, UNITED STATES ARMY
9:32:41AM VETERAN AND HONORABLE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT MENTOR.
9:32:47AM HER LATE SON, LATE ARMY PRIVATE FIRST CLASS PAUL THE II WAS
9:32:53AM KILLED IN ACTION IN OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM IN
9:32:56AM AFGHANISTAN, AUGUST 8 OF 2010.
9:32:58AM HE WAS 23 YEARS OLD AND HAILED FROM PLANT CITY.
9:33:01AM HE WAS A GRADUATE OF ARMWOOD HIGH SCHOOL WHERE HE WOULD
9:33:05AM GRADUATE IN THE TOP 20% OF HIS CLASS.
9:33:07AM A WEEK BEFORE HIS PASSING, HIS DEATH, HE WAS HONORED WITH AN
9:33:11AM ARMY COMMENDATION MEDAL FOR HIS EFFORT TO SAVE AN AFGHAN
9:33:15AM CHILD'S LIFE WHO LOST BOTH LEGS AND AN ARM.
9:33:19AM WE HONOR THEIR SACRIFICE.
9:33:20AM NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM THE TWO WONDERFUL WOMEN ON MEMORIAL DAY.
9:33:30AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:33:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAMES.
9:33:36AM >> MY NAME IS ANNETTE KIRK.
9:33:37AM THANK YOU.
9:33:40AM I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY AS THE MOTHER OF PAUL THE II.
9:33:51AM I REALLY WISHED THAT THOSE BOYS WHO WERE STANDING HERE
9:33:57AM BEFORE US COULD BE HERE TO LISTEN TO US TALK ABOUT OUR
9:34:00AM CHILDREN.
9:34:00AM IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
9:34:04AM AS I'VE SAID BEFORE IN SPEECHES, THESE YOUNG CHILDREN NEED
9:34:10AM TO LEARN GROWING UP THAT IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO INTO THE
9:34:16AM MILITARY, IT DOES NOT MATTER.
9:34:18AM THEY ALL CAME FROM DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE, DIFFERENT RACES,
9:34:25AM RELIGIONS, AND POLITICAL VIEWS.
9:34:27AM WHAT DID THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON?
9:34:29AM IT WAS PATRIOTISM AND A SENSE OF SELFLESS SERVICE.
9:34:35AM AND THEY ALL SUPPORTED THEIR BELOVED COUNTRY.
9:34:39AM MEMORIAL DAY IS A REFLECTION FOR MANY.
9:34:49AM FOR THOSE BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN ARMS THAT SERVED WITH
9:34:51AM THOSE THAT DIED.
9:34:53AM IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE FAMILIES.
9:34:58AM THESE VETERANS, THEY MADE FRIENDSHIPS ALONG THE WAY THAT
9:35:02AM THEY WILL REMEMBER FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
9:35:05AM WE KNOW THAT MEMORIAL DAY, IT'S BUILT AROUND BARBEQUES AND
9:35:18AM IT'S OKAY.
9:35:19AM IT'S OKAY TO HAVE THE BARBEQUE, BUT TAKE ONE MOMENT TO
9:35:22AM REMEMBER WHY WE HAVE THE BARBEQUES AND ALL THE SALES.
9:35:27AM JUST SAY THEIR NAMES.
9:35:30AM DO A GOOGLE SEARCH.
9:35:32AM GOOGLE KNOWS EVERYTHING.
9:35:40AM >> JUST REMEMBER, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEMORIAL DAY
9:35:43AM AND VETERANS DAY.
9:35:44AM >> BIG DIFFERENCE.
9:35:45AM BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE.
9:35:46AM I SERVED.
9:35:48AM I'M STILL ALIVE, THOUGH.
9:35:50AM I AM A VETERAN.
9:35:51AM MY SON, HE DOES NOT HAVE A DD 214.
9:35:58AM I DO.
9:35:59AM BIG DIFFERENCE.
9:36:03AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
9:36:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:36:12AM >> SHE SAID EVERYTHING.
9:36:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S GIVE THESE WONDERFUL LADIES A ROUND OF
9:36:15AM APPLAUSE.
9:36:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S AN HONOR THAT YOU ARE HERE.
9:36:25AM EVERY DAY IS MEMORIAL DAY.
9:36:27AM LIKE YOU SAID, SAY THEIR NAME.
9:36:29AM I'VE SAID THIS UP HERE BEFORE, THAT WE DIE TWICE.
9:36:32AM WHEN WE TAKE OUR LAST BREATH AND WHEN SOMEBODY SPEAKS OUR
9:36:36AM NAME FOR THE LAST TIME.
9:36:38AM THANKFULLY WITH THE INTERNET, DO A GOOGLE SEARCH.
9:36:40AM I GOOGLE SEARCH VIETNAM VETERANS ALL THE TIME.
9:36:44AM I VISIT THEIR GRAVES TO LEAVE A LITTLE AMERICAN FLAG.
9:36:48AM JUST -- I'M BORN 40 YEARS AGO, BUT TO THIS DAY, THEY MAY
9:36:54AM HAVE DIED IN THE 1960s, BUT THEIR NAMES ARE SAID.
9:36:57AM I'LL SHARE THEIR PICTURES ON Facebook.
9:36:59AM IT KEEPS THEM ALIVE.
9:37:00AM SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
9:37:05AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:37:05AM THANK YOU.
9:37:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:37:09AM OUR LAST CEREMONIAL ITEM IS COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TO PRESENT
9:37:25AM THE ATU LOCAL 1464 EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
9:37:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:37:44AM THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE TIMES OF THE MONTH.
9:37:48AM CELEBRATE LABOR BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM ATU AND STEVE
9:37:51AM SIMON IS HERE TO INTRODUCE THE ATU EMPLOYEE IS OF THE MONTH,
9:37:55AM STACY JACKSON.
9:37:57AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
9:37:58AM GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:37:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:38:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:38:02AM GOOD MORNING, CITY OF TAMPA.
9:38:03AM I'M STEVE SIMON, PRESIDENT OF THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION
9:38:07AM LOCAL 1464.
9:38:09AM WE KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
9:38:11AM I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE
9:38:13AM ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MR. STACY JACKSON.
9:38:18AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:18AM STACY IS ONE OF OUR TRUSTED TECHNICIANS THAT KEEPS OUR
9:38:29AM DISTRIBUTION PIPELINE IN WORKING ORDER ON OUR LATER SHIFT
9:38:33AM WHICH INCLUDES WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS.
9:38:35AM HIS ROLE REQUIRES HIM TO BE OUR EYES AND EARS WHILE MOST OF
9:38:37AM THE WORKFORCE IS AT REST.
9:38:39AM SERVING ALSO AS AN AMBASSADOR WHEN THE PUBLIC WANTS ANSWERS.
9:38:44AM ON SUNDAY, APRIL 13, HE DEMONSTRATED THIS CLEARLY WHEN HE
9:38:47AM RESPONDED TO A CALL THAT CAME FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON ABOUT
9:38:51AM A -- ABOUT WATER FLOWING ON SAN MIGUEL STREET.
9:38:56AM UPON ARRIVAL, STACY ASSESSED THE SEVERITY OF THE LEAK,
9:39:00AM RECOMMENDED THAT WE WAIT TO BRING A CREW IN TO BEGIN THE
9:39:03AM REPAIRS UNTIL THE NEXT DAY SO WE COULD ALERT PLANT HIGH
9:39:07AM SCHOOL AND OTHERS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED AND ALLOW THEM TO
9:39:10AM PLAN AROUND THE DISRUPTION THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
9:39:12AM HE TOOK THE TIME TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THE PLAN AROUND THE
9:39:20AM DISRUPTION THAT WOULD TOOK PLACE.
9:39:22AM HE TOOK THE TIME TO EXPLAIN THE OPERATIONS AND THE LOGIC
9:39:25AM BEHIND THIS APPROACH DIRECTLY TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON ON-SITE
9:39:28AM THAT MORNING.
9:39:29AM HIS CALM AND CONFIDENT EXPLANATION LEFT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
9:39:32AM FEELING REASSURED THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT CARES ABOUT THE
9:39:37AM COMMUNITIES IT SERVES.
9:39:38AM AND WE THANK YOU, STACY, FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN KEEPING
9:39:41AM THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING AND ON BEHALF OF ATU LOCAL 1464, I
9:39:47AM WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS AWARD.
9:39:51AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:51AM IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO READ A PORTION OF A LETTER FROM
9:40:01AM THE MAYOR.
9:40:02AM DEAR STACY, CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING SELECTED AS THE
9:40:11AM AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION'S EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR YOUR
9:40:15AM EXCELLENT PROFESSIONALISM, STRONG WORK ETHICS AND FOR GOING
9:40:18AM ABOVE AND BEYOND IN ALL ASPECTS OF YOUR POSITION.
9:40:21AM YOU DEMONSTRATE A FIRM COMMITMENT TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT
9:40:24AM AND TO THE CITY, AND YOU SET AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO
9:40:27AM FOLLOW.
9:40:28AM IT IS EMPLOYEES LIKE YOU, STACY, THAT MAKE ME PROUD TO SERVE
9:40:32AM AS MAYOR.
9:40:32AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SERVICE.
9:40:34AM SINCERELY, MAYOR JANE.
9:40:37AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:37AM ALSO, I HAVE THE WATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, MR. RORY JONES
9:40:45AM HERE, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
9:40:48AM >> I WAS GOING TO SHARE THE EXAMPLE.
9:40:51AM IT'S NOT JUST THAT EXAMPLE.
9:40:55AM THIS GENTLEMAN WORKS WEEKDAY, WEEKEND, DAY, NIGHT, AND
9:40:59AM THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF MANY THAT I CAN PROVIDE TO YOU.
9:41:02AM YOU ARE A GREAT EXAMPLE.
9:41:04AM APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR US.
9:41:08AM THANK YOU.
9:41:10AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'VE GOT THE WHOLE CROWD.
9:41:17AM YOU HAVE YOUR COWORKERS.
9:41:21AM ANYBODY ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE?
9:41:24AM >> MOST OF THEM ARE MY SUPERIORS, MY COWORKER, MY TEAM LEAD.
9:41:31AM I'M GLAD TO BE HERE.
9:41:33AM AGAIN, STACY JACKSON, CERTIFIED DISTRIBUTION LEAD TECH.
9:41:39AM I JUST WANT TO GIVE A THANK-YOU TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, MORE
9:41:43AM SO THE WATER DEPARTMENT, FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
9:41:45AM COME BE AN ASSET TO THIS MUNICIPALITY.
9:41:49AM I'VE BEEN DOING THIS WORK FOR 20 YEARS.
9:41:54AM I DID 18 YEARS CITY OF ST. PETE.
9:41:58AM >> YOU UPGRADED.
9:42:00AM >> YEAH.
9:42:01AM YOU BEAT ME TO IT.
9:42:02AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:42:02AM TWO AND A HALF YEARS, BY FAR, THIS IS THE BEST PART OF MY
9:42:08AM CAREER SO FAR.
9:42:10AM I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND LOOKING FORWARD
9:42:12AM TO OUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
9:42:14AM AGAIN, THANKS FOR THE RECOGNITION.
9:42:16AM IT MEANS SO MUCH TO ME AND I'M FOREVER GRATEFUL.
9:42:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STACY, ON BEHALF OF CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO
9:42:23AM AND THE REST OF CITY COUNCIL, I WON'T READ IT, YOU CAN READ
9:42:26AM IT YOURSELF.
9:42:26AM THIS IS A COMMENDATION THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO
9:42:29AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:42:30AM WE REALLY GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:42:33AM I'LL THINK OF YOU EVERY TIME I TURN THE SPIGOT ON AND I HAVE
9:42:36AM CLEAN, GOOD TASTING WATER.
9:42:39AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:42:39AM >> THAT'S WHAT I DO.
9:42:40AM I AM WATER.
9:42:41AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:42:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:42:48AM WE HAVE GIFTS.
9:42:49AM WE HAVE A LINE OF FOLKS READY TO GIVE YOU SOME PRESENTS
9:42:56AM TODAY.
9:42:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW YOU GET ALL THE GOODIES.
9:43:01AM >> MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
9:43:04AM CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
9:43:06AM IF WE COULD CLONE THIS GUY, THE CITY WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT
9:43:09AM BETTER PLACE.
9:43:10AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
9:43:12AM ALL THE RESIDENTS.
9:43:13AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP, STEPP'S TOWING, GIFT CARD, GO OUT
9:43:18AM TO DINNER.
9:43:20AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:43:21AM TAKE CARE.
9:43:22AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:43:26AM JILL WITECKI, TAMPA THEATRE.
9:43:28AM GOOD COMMUNICATION SOLVES A MULTITUDE OF PROBLEMS.
9:43:30AM IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW THAT WELL.
9:43:32AM ON BEHALF OF THE THEATER, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH
9:43:35AM A MEMBERSHIP TO COME SEE SOME MOVIES.
9:43:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:43:44AM LORI OSBORNE WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
9:43:46AM MR. JACKSON, YOUR GOOD DEEDS PERSONALLY IMPACTED ME.
9:43:51AM BECAUSE OF YOUR AMAZING COMMUNICATION SKILLS, WE KNEW WHAT
9:43:54AM WAS GOING ON.
9:43:56AM I CAN'T THANK YOU PERSONALLY ENOUGH.
9:43:58AM ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE
9:44:02AM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO AN UPCOMING CONCERT.
9:44:04AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:44:06AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:44:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:44:10AM BRIAN FORD WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
9:44:12AM GOOD MORNING, MR. JACKSON.
9:44:17AM BEHIND-THE-SCENES GUY TO ANOTHER, YOUR STORY IS INCREDIBLE.
9:44:21AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU, YOUR FAMILY AND THE SACRIFICE YOU PUT
9:44:24AM FORTH EVERY DAY ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR GREAT
9:44:27AM CITY.
9:44:28AM WE HAVE A LITTLE TRADITION AT ONE BUC, WHENEVER ANYBODY GOES
9:44:32AM OVER AND ABOVE, THEY GET A GAME BALL.
9:44:34AM HEARING YOUR STORY, YOU DEFINITELY GO OVER AND ABOVE.
9:44:40AM ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZERS, THANK YOU.
9:44:43AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:44:44AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:44:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:44:47AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:44:49AM STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
9:44:52AM FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE SOMETHING IN
9:44:55AM GRATITUDE.
9:44:56AM THERE ARE THE GIFT CERTIFICATES.
9:44:58AM YOU NEED TO TAKE THE LETTER WITH YOU.
9:45:01AM THIS IS REGARDING BELLABRAVA, WHICH IS OVER IN THE MIDTOWN
9:45:05AM SECTION.
9:45:05AM THEY ARE PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR LUNCH OR
9:45:09AM DINNER.
9:45:10AM MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK, CLOSE TO WHERE YOU HAD THE
9:45:13AM WATER DISASTER, THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE WITH YOU A GIFT
9:45:17AM CERTIFICATE.
9:45:18AM ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:45:21AM ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, BREAKFAST, LUNCH,
9:45:26AM DINNER AT ANY OF THEIR LOCATIONS.
9:45:29AM BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND, ANOTHER GIFT
9:45:34AM CERTIFICATE.
9:45:34AM DON'T LET STEVE TAKE THEM FROM YOU.
9:45:36AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:45:37AM >> I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:45:38AM THANK YOU.
9:45:39AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:45:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: STACY, I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU AGAIN.
9:45:50AM WE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE ON THE FRONT LINE WORKING
9:45:54AM WITH THE PUBLIC.
9:45:55AM WE GET 50 TO 200 CONSTITUENT ISSUES A DAY.
9:45:58AM ALL WE CAN DO IS PUSH THEM TO THE DEPARTMENTS.
9:46:03AM THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE WHO REALLY CARE IN THESE
9:46:08AM DEPARTMENTS AND RESPOND.
9:46:09AM I THINK YOU'RE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF IT.
9:46:12AM I WISH SOMEDAY SOMEBODY WOULD DO A PUBLIC RECORDS SEARCH TO
9:46:17AM SEE ALL THE TIMES SAID THANK YOU.
9:46:19AM IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
9:46:20AM THERE ARE SO MANY QUICK RESPONSES THAT I'M CONSTANTLY SAYING
9:46:24AM THANK YOU.
9:46:24AM I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES ARE.
9:46:26AM RORY IS DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT IN
9:46:28AM LEADING THAT.
9:46:29AM AND HAS BEEN VERY COMMUNICATIVE WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH US.
9:46:33AM THE QUICK STORY IS, THE CONSTITUENT CALLED AND STACY DIDN'T
9:46:36AM KNOW THIS, SHE HAPPENS TO BE TAMPA ROYALTY.
9:46:39AM MEL'S DAUGHTER FROM MEL'S HOT DOGS.
9:46:42AM SHE CALLED AND SAID THE ROAD WAS LEAKING AND MAYBE THE ROAD
9:46:47AM WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE.
9:46:48AM IT HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT NEXT -- IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
9:46:51AM PLANT HIGH DROP-OFF AND PICKUP LINE.
9:46:54AM SO THAT STARTED A WHOLE PROCESS WHERE THE WATER DEPARTMENT
9:46:58AM HAD TO COMMUNICATE WITH PLANT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
9:47:00AM EVERYTHING.
9:47:00AM AND THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T
9:47:04AM HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT.
9:47:06AM I GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH THE CONSTITUENT.
9:47:08AM CALLED RORY ON SUNDAY MORNING.
9:47:10AM HE PICKED UP, THANK YOU.
9:47:11AM I GOT MY CAR AND DROVE UP TO PLANT HIGH.
9:47:14AM WHEN I GOT THERE, STACY WAS ALREADY THERE.
9:47:17AM THAT JUST SHOWS HOW FAST HE WAS.
9:47:20AM FROM A CONSTITUENT POINT OF VIEW AND SEVERAL CONSTITUENTS
9:47:25AM CAME OUT AND TALKED TO HIM, THEY WERE SO APPRECIATIVE.
9:47:28AM IS YOUR HOUSE GOING TO ALL IN?
9:47:30AM THE ROAD FALL IN?
9:47:31AM CAN I DRIVE ON THIS?
9:47:33AM I TALKED TO STACY A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
9:47:36AM HE ALREADY DIAGNOSED IT.
9:47:37AM HE WAS ON THE PHONE WITH PEOPLE.
9:47:39AM THEN AS I WAS ABOUT TO LEAVE, HE WAS TAKING CALLS FROM
9:47:44AM SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE.
9:47:49AM FOR STACY AND THOSE, THE CONSTITUENTS ARE SO THANKFUL.
9:47:55AM WE PROVIDE GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE AND CARE AS YOU DID, THE
9:47:58AM CITY WILL CONTINUE TO BE A GREAT PLACE.
9:48:00AM THANK YOU.
9:48:01AM >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
9:48:01AM THANK YOU.
9:48:01AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:48:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOUR JOB IS NOT ONLY YOU.
9:48:10AM IT IS YOU SHOWING THE WAY TO OTHERS WHAT YOU DO.
9:48:12AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS THING, YOU TALK ABOUT WATER.
9:48:16AM THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WATER SYSTEM HAS ABOUT 2,000 MILES
9:48:19AM OF WATER LINES UNDER THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:48:21AM >> YES.
9:48:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THEY SERVE HOW MANY PEOPLE?
9:48:23AM 700,000.
9:48:24AM WHAT YOU DO IS AN AMAZING JOB.
9:48:29AM WHAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES DO IS
9:48:31AM EQUALLY JUST AS HIGH.
9:48:33AM BUT YOU'RE THE ONE THAT RESPONDED.
9:48:35AM YOU'RE THE ONE THAT DID THE RIGHT THING.
9:48:37AM YOU ARE THE ONE THAT MADE THE CALL.
9:48:38AM YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAID I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL THIS IS
9:48:41AM FIXED.
9:48:41AM ONE TIME, USED I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF BREAKS A
9:48:45AM YEAR.
9:48:46AM BOTH DIVISIONS HERE.
9:48:57AM -- DON'T WANT ME TO BRAG ON THIS, BUT THE WATER DEPARTMENT
9:49:00AM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ONE OF ONLY EIGHT IN THE WHOLE
9:49:03AM COUNTRY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THAT HAS A TRIPLE-A
9:49:07AM BOND RATING.
9:49:08AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
9:49:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:49:12AM YOU ARE THE UNSUNG HEROES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:49:16AM PRESIDENT STEVE SIMON HERE, YOU KEEP THE CITY RUNNING.
9:49:19AM IF IT WASN'T FOR YOUR WHOLE TEAM, ALL THE CONSTITUENT
9:49:23AM REQUESTS WE GET, YOU ARE BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, WORKING NONSTOP,
9:49:27AM MAKING OUR CITY BETTER.
9:49:28AM TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE.
9:49:29AM WITHOUT YOU, WE COULDN'T SERVE THE CONSTITUENTS LIKE WE DO.
9:49:34AM YOU DESERVE THIS.
9:49:35AM >> I APPRECIATE IT.
9:49:36AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT THE TAMPA CITY
9:49:39AM COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
9:49:41AM THANK YOU.
9:49:41AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:49:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD GO WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON
9:50:18AM FIRST.
9:50:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
9:50:20AM THE QUESTION, YOU MIGHT WANT TO INQUIRE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
9:50:22AM HERE TO SPEAK ON 67 OR 68 OR HOLD IT.
9:50:27AM WHATEVER YOU WISH.
9:50:28AM THERE ARE PRESENTATIONS ON THOSE FROM MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
9:50:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WAIT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK TO
9:50:39AM COME BACK.
9:50:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THIS, WHICH
9:50:46AM IS TODAY IS POLICE MEMORIAL DAY WHERE WE HONOR OUR OFFICERS
9:50:49AM WHO WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
9:50:51AM WE HAVE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE DIVISION CHIEF OF HILLSBOROUGH
9:50:55AM COUNTY FIRE, MORRIS LOPEZ, WHO IS A GOOD MAN AND CITY OF
9:50:59AM TAMPA RESIDENT AND CONSTITUENT.
9:51:00AM HIS GRANDFATHER, PATROLMAN OFFICER LOPEZ, I BELIEVE IT WAS
9:51:06AM 1936 OR 35 -- 49, EXCUSE ME.
9:51:09AM WAS KILLED IN ACTION ON 7th AVENUE IN YBOR CITY WHEN HE
9:51:15AM PUT HIS BODY IN THE WAY OF A NEWSPAPER BOY WHO WAS ABOUT TO
9:51:20AM COME INTO CONTACT WITH SOME BULLETS THAT CAME OUT OF THE
9:51:24AM GUNS OF SOME GANGSTERS.
9:51:25AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPEAKING LATER, SIR, BUT
9:51:28AM WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE YOU, AND WE HONOR YOUR FAMILY,
9:51:31AM ESPECIALLY TODAY.
9:51:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:51:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MY OTHER HALF
9:51:38AM FOR OUR 40th ANNIVERSARY TODAY.
9:51:40AM CONGRATULATIONS AND HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.
9:51:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:51:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY OFFICER LOPEZ, I WAS A
9:51:51AM YOUNG BOY WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
9:51:53AM THAT WAS IN YBOR CITY.
9:51:55AM HIS WIFE HAD A SISTER NAMED OLGA.
9:51:59AM THE REASON I KNOW THAT, MARRIED TO MY UNCLE.
9:52:03AM I REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED.
9:52:04AM I UNDERSTAND.
9:52:08AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
9:52:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:52:10AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE YOUR MOTION.
9:52:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE IT?
9:52:15AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER A VOTE FROM THE
9:52:18AM LAST REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING WHERE I WAS ON THE
9:52:21AM PREVAILING SIDE AND THE VOTE WAS FOR CHAIR.
9:52:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:52:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME SPEAK ON IT, IF I MAY.
9:52:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU THE SECOND?
9:52:31AM SO YOU ARE SECONDING IT TO SPEAK?
9:52:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, JUST TO SPEAK.
9:52:38AM THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS, HOW CAN I SAY THIS, WHEN THIS
9:52:41AM ISSUE FIRST CAME UP, I VOTED FOR COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AS
9:52:45AM CHAIR.
9:52:46AM THIS IS A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION ON IT.
9:52:51AM THERE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE ON CITY COUNCIL
9:52:53AM THAT ARE 51/49, SO TO SPEAK.
9:52:57AM THIS IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE.
9:52:59AM THIS ISN'T YOUR EVERYDAY MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND
9:53:01AM EVERYTHING.
9:53:02AM IT'S A CHALLENGE.
9:53:05AM BUT THAT'S ALL.
9:53:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:53:07AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
9:53:10AM THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER'S MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE FOR
9:53:14AM CHAIR THAT TOOK PLACE TWO WEEKS AGO SINCE HE WAS ON THE
9:53:17AM PREVAILING SIDE.
9:53:18AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
9:53:22AM >> HURTAK?
9:53:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS MOTION BEFORE WE HAVE A
9:53:29AM CONVERSATION ABOUT IT?
9:53:30AM IS THAT IT?
9:53:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, THIS IS UNUSUAL.
9:53:34AM I DON'T REMEMBER THIS EVER HAPPENING.
9:53:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS JUST A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
9:53:39AM NOT A VOTE FOR WHO WOULD BE CHAIR.
9:53:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO DO THIS DURING
9:53:45AM OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT TO DO TODAY.
9:53:48AM I REALLY WANT TO LISTEN TO THESE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE FOR LISA
9:53:53AM CHESSER.
9:53:54AM I STRUGGLE WITH THIS WHOLE IDEA.
9:54:00AM WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DO.
9:54:02AM THIS WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF IT WAS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER
9:54:06AM SOME MONEY.
9:54:07AM I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO THIS AT THE END OF THE DAY BECAUSE
9:54:11AM WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE AND WE HAVE SO MUCH IN FRONT OF
9:54:14AM US TODAY.
9:54:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW.
9:54:15AM BUT THERE IS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ME BEING CHAIR.
9:54:19AM I'M BEING ASKED TO RUN THE WHOLE MEETING, WHICH COULD BE
9:54:22AM UNTIL 6:00 TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON.
9:54:25AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:54:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND YOUR PLEA.
9:54:31AM I UNDERSTAND IT.
9:54:31AM IT'S ALREADY ON THE FLOOR.
9:54:32AM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THAT WAY THE PUBLIC CAN GET ALL THE
9:54:35AM FULL CONTENTS, LISTEN TO WHAT THEY NEED.
9:54:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY MORE TIME ON THIS,
9:54:41AM SO I'LL SAY NO.
9:54:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:54:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND IS WITHDRAWN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO
9:54:47AM SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS TODAY.
9:54:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD YOU SUPPORT IF I WITHDRAW MY MOTION
9:54:58AM AND PUT IT AT THE END OF THE DAY?
9:55:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD RATHER DO IT NOW.
9:55:03AM I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO MAKE ME RUN THE MEETING IN
9:55:05AM LIMBO.
9:55:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALREADY HAVE ONE VOTE.
9:55:10AM LET'S GET THE ROLL CALL GOING.
9:55:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
9:55:14AM IS THERE ANOTHER SECOND?
9:55:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS -- I
9:55:38AM MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE CONSIDERATION UNTIL THE END OF
9:55:41AM MEETING.
9:55:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:55:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THIS, MR. CLENDENIN,
9:55:51AM BUT THE MOTION WAS ON THE FLOOR.
9:55:53AM IT DIDN'T GET A SECOND.
9:55:55AM NOW YOU WANT TO CONSIDER -- I UNDERSTAND.
9:55:57AM BUT LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON IT NOW.
9:56:00AM THE MEDIA IS HERE.
9:56:01AM THE PEOPLE ARE HERE.
9:56:02AM WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
9:56:03AM SAME VOTE WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT.
9:56:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE]
9:56:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING TO VOTE ON
9:56:12AM THIS?
9:56:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE DIDN'T FINISH BECAUSE THE SECOND WAS
9:56:17AM WITHDRAWN.
9:56:18AM THE FIRST MOTION IS DEAD.
9:56:19AM NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION WITH A SECOND.
9:56:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING WE DID BEFORE.
9:56:23AM THE PUBLIC IS HERE.
9:56:24AM LET THE PUBLIC HEAR IT.
9:56:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO TABLE CONSIDERATION UNTIL OLD
9:56:31AM BUSINESS.
9:56:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW.
9:56:34AM IF WE TALK ABOUT IT DURING OLD BUSINESS -- LET'S MOVE ON.
9:56:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COULD COME UP UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
9:56:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL BRING IT UP AGAIN UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
9:56:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO RUN THE MEETING
9:56:50AM LIKE THIS.
9:56:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE THE CHAIR, SIR.
9:56:52AM LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
9:56:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 67 AND 68 BECAUSE WE HAD MADE A
9:56:58AM MOTION TO GET THIS ITEM UP.
9:57:00AM IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SHELBY?
9:57:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, IF COUNCIL
9:57:04AM WANTED A MIND BY A SHOW OF HANDS HOW MANY PEOPLE WISH TO
9:57:07AM SPEAK ON ITEM 67 AND 68, IF THEY ARE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK?
9:57:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 67 IS FOR NEW ABILITIES PLAYGROUND FOR
9:57:23AM HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL.
9:57:24AM BLACK SHIRTS ARE FOR LISA CHESSER, IS THAT CORRECT?
9:57:28AM I SAW MS. POYNOR.
9:57:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL IS AWARE,
9:57:33AM THIS IS HERE ON FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, WHICH MEANS
9:57:37AM THAT THERE WILL BE A PRESENTATION REQUIRED BY THE STAFF,
9:57:42AM UNLESS --
9:57:42AM >> IT'S LIKE A MINUTE AND A HALF.
9:57:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: RIGHT.
9:57:46AM IT DOES NOT GET ADOPTED TODAY.
9:57:47AM THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW OFFICIALLY WHEN THE ORDINANCE IS
9:57:50AM ADOPTED, IT WILL COME BACK ON SECOND READING, ADOPTION
9:57:54AM PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO
9:57:56AM SPEAK.
9:57:57AM THERE WAS A QUESTION OF WHETHER THIS SHOULD BE CEREMONIAL
9:57:59AM THAT I HAD WITH A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
9:58:01AM THAT'S NOT SET FOR CEREMONIAL TODAY BUT AS A CONSIDERATION
9:58:04AM TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE WAITING, I WAS ASKED TO BRING IT UP
9:58:07AM TO COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
9:58:08AM HOWEVER YOU WISH TO MOVE FORWARD.
9:58:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL START WITH ITEM 67.
9:58:14AM MS. VAN LOAN, COME UP.
9:58:16AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: GOOD MORNING.
9:58:18AM ITEM 67 IS HONORING NAMING REQUEST FOR HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL
9:58:23AM FOR THE NEW TAMPA ALL ABILITIES PLAYGROUND.
9:58:26AM MARCH 27 I MADE A PRESENTATION TO YOU ON THE BACKGROUND AND
9:58:29AM INFORMATION ON THE YOUNG MR. HARRISON.
9:58:33AM WE POSTED IT ON THE WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MARCH 28
9:58:38AM FOR ALMOST THREE WEEKS.
9:58:39AM WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS.
9:58:40AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
9:58:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. VAN LOAN?
9:58:44AM I DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNED UP PUBLIC SPEAKERS FOR ITEM 67, IS
9:58:55AM THAT CORRECT?
9:58:55AM I DON'T SEE ANYONE.
9:58:57AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION.
9:59:02AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 67?
9:59:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:59:15AM AGAIN, THIS IS FOR HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL, WHO WAS KILLED HERE
9:59:19AM IN YBOR CITY IN TAMPA IN OCTOBER OF 2023.
9:59:23AM A VERY SPECIAL YOUNG MAN WHO WAS A PEPIN GRADUATE WHO WAS A
9:59:28AM YOUNG MAN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND WHO WITH THE HELP AND LOVE
9:59:32AM OF HIS FAMILY, HIS MOM, DAD, SIBLINGS AND SO MANY OTHERS
9:59:36AM REALLY LIVED A REMARKABLE LIFE.
9:59:38AM AND THIS PARK, WHICH IS FOR ALL ABILITIES FOR PEOPLE WITH
9:59:42AM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, AUTISM, PHYSICAL DISABILITIES,
9:59:46AM ET CETERA, THE VALUES OF IT FIT 100% WHO HARRISON
9:59:49AM BOONSTOPPEL WAS AND FOREVER WILL BE.
9:59:51AM WE SPEAK A LOT TODAY ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE NO LONGER WITH US
9:59:55AM AND WHOSE HEARTS WE LOVE AND WE REMEMBER, AND HE'S CERTAINLY
9:59:59AM ONE OF THE MOST SPECIAL ONES.
10:00:01AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:00:03AM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:00:06AM APPROVING THE NAMING OF THE NEW TAMPA ALL ABILITIES
10:00:08AM PLAYGROUND OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO HONOR HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL;
10:00:11AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:00:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM
10:00:14AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:00:15AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:00:15AM AYE.
10:00:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:00:16AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE READ THE VOTE.
10:00:21AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN BEING
10:00:24AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:00:25AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025, AT
10:00:29AM 10 A.M.
10:00:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:00:31AM ITEM 68, LISA MARIE CHESSER.
10:00:38AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NUMBER 68 IS HONORING NAMING OF
10:00:44AM PROPOSED PARK AT MARCUM STREET AND PINEWOOD STREET NEAR THE
10:00:47AM MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE IN HONOR OF LISA MARIE CHESSER.
10:00:52AM I MADE A PRESENTATION ON HER CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY
10:00:55AM AND PEOPLE IN NEED IN HER AREA.
10:00:57AM WE POSTED IT TO OUR WEBSITE MARCH 6 THROUGH APRIL 4 FOR
10:00:59AM ALMOST FOUR WEEKS.
10:01:01AM WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS.
10:01:02AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:01:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
10:01:04AM WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
10:01:12AM THE FIRST ONE IS JANE PERCOSKIE.
10:01:18AM ONLY THE PEOPLE I'M CALLING UP TO SPEAK WILL SPEAK.
10:01:21AM JANE IS THE FIRST SPEAKER.
10:01:24AM COME ON UP.
10:01:25AM I KNOW THERE ARE QUITE A FEW.
10:01:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST AS EVERYBODY IS WALKING UP, LISA WAS
10:01:48AM VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:01:50AM IN FACT, A FEW MONTHS OR A YEAR BEFORE SHE PASSED WE GAVE
10:01:54AM HER A COMMENDATION HERE AT CITY COUNCIL, AND SHE WAS ABLE TO
10:01:57AM SPEAK TO US SOME AND THEN AFTER SHE PASSED, AS THIS NEW PARK
10:02:02AM WAS BEING PROPOSED, THE COMMUNITY LED BY STEPHANIE PROPOSED
10:02:06AM THAT WE NAME THIS PARK AFTER HER.
10:02:08AM AND IT WAS SUPPORTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
10:02:10AM THANK YOU -- WE PROBABLY GOT A HUNDRED OR 200 E-MAILS FROM
10:02:15AM FOLKS.
10:02:15AM THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR HONORING LISA.
10:02:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:18AM JANE, IS THIS YOU?
10:02:20AM >> EMILY.
10:02:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JANE IS THE FIRST SPEAKER.
10:02:24AM >> THAT WOULD BE ME.
10:02:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, MA'AM.
10:02:27AM >> MY NAME IS JANE PERCOSKIE.
10:02:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:02:31AM >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT LISA AND WHAT SHE DID IN
10:02:36AM OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP OTHERS IN THE WHOLE SOUTH TAMPA
10:02:45AM COMMUNITY.
10:02:47AM SHE PACKED 500 BOXES A MONTH FOR THE G.I. JOES AND SENT
10:02:51AM OVERSEAS.
10:02:51AM SHE DID THAT EVERY MONTH TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD JUST PERSONAL
10:02:57AM HYGIENE THINGS, THINGS TO REMIND THEM OF BEING HOME.
10:03:01AM THE SMELL OF DRYER SHEETS WAS SO IMPORTANT.
10:03:06AM HAVING HER PACK BOOK BAGS MONTHLY WITH HER GRANDSON WITH HER
10:03:13AM AND GOING AROUND AND DISTRIBUTING THEM TO HOMELESS PEOPLE
10:03:20AM THAT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
10:03:21AM NOTHING.
10:03:22AM TOOTHBRUSHES, TOOTHPASTE, DEODORANT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:03:27AM SHE CARED ABOUT EVERYBODY.
10:03:30AM SHE DIDN'T TURN ANYBODY AWAY.
10:03:31AM I REALLY THINK THAT THIS PARK WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD
10:03:37AM HONOR HER MEMORY FOR EVERYBODY.
10:03:43AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
10:03:44AM THANK YOU.
10:03:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:03:45AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:03:45AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER, IT SAYS JACKIE IS WHO I SEE.
10:03:57AM YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
10:03:58AM PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME.
10:04:00AM >> JACKIE BECKFORD.
10:04:01AM I TOO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT LISA VERY MUCH LOVED
10:04:06AM VETERANS.
10:04:07AM AND WE DID PACK BOXES.
10:04:09AM LISA WAS ONE OF THE FEW CIVILIANS THAT EVER HAD THE
10:04:12AM OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE MARINES FOR TOYS FOR TOTS.
10:04:17AM EVERY YEAR SHE MADE SURE AND THE BROKEN TOYS WE FIXED.
10:04:22AM WE PACKED THEM UP AND WE MADE SURE THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY
10:04:25AM AND THE UNNEEDED TOYS WENT TO WHERE THEY WERE NEEDED AND
10:04:30AM LOVED.
10:04:30AM LISA, SHE RALLIED.
10:04:33AM SHE WOULD SAY I NEED DONATIONS.
10:04:35AM WE NEED DONATIONS.
10:04:36AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A YARD SALE SO WE CAN EARN MONEY TO SEND
10:04:40AM THOSE BOXES THAT WE ALL PACKED TO IRAQ.
10:04:44AM BOOTS ON THE GROUND, WHEN THE HOMELESS CAMPS WERE THREATENED
10:04:49AM TO BE THROWN OUT AND EVICTED FROM WHERE THEY WERE, WE WENT
10:04:53AM TO THE WOODS AND UNDER LISA'S LEADERSHIP, WE CLEANED UP THE
10:04:58AM WOODS JUST SO THOSE PEOPLE COULD REMAIN WHERE THEY WERE.
10:05:01AM SHE MADE SURE EVERYONE ATE.
10:05:04AM SHE WENT TO HER GRANDSON'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WAS TOLD
10:05:10AM THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE TURKEYS IN SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY
10:05:14AM FAMILIES.
10:05:14AM LISA SAID, OH, YES, THERE WILL BE TURKEYS.
10:05:19AM EVERYBODY WILL HAVE THANKSGIVING.
10:05:20AM SHE GOT US ALL TOGETHER AND MADE THAT HAPPEN.
10:05:23AM LISA ALWAYS MADE THINGS HAPPEN FOR EVERYBODY.
10:05:27AM LISA LOVED -- SHE WAS TRANSPARENT.
10:05:31AM EVERYTHING WAS FACTUAL.
10:05:32AM LISA WAS ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE WOMEN'S AUXILIARY AT
10:05:39AM AMERICAN LEGION 138.
10:05:41AM PERSONALLY, SHE HELPED ME THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS MYSELF.
10:05:50AM BUT LISA WAS FOR EVERYBODY.
10:05:51AM I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY WHO COULD GO FROM 4 IN THE MORNING
10:05:55AM UNTIL MIDNIGHT EVERY DAY AND HELD UP EVERY PROMISE THAT SHE
10:05:58AM MADE.
10:05:59AM NOBODY WENT WITHOUT EVER.
10:06:02AM IF YOU KNEW LISA, YOU WERE VERY FORTUNATE.
10:06:05AM SHE WAS A BLESSING TO HER COMMUNITY AND TO HER FRIENDS AND
10:06:08AM HER FAMILY.
10:06:10AM SHE WAS A WONDERFUL WOMAN, AND I'M SO PROUD OF HER.
10:06:13AM PLEASE, PLEASE SEE THIS THROUGH.
10:06:18AM WE NEED THIS.
10:06:18AM LISA DESERVES TO BE HONORED WITH THIS.
10:06:22AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:06:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:06:24AM YES, MA'AM.
10:06:25AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:06:25AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BETSY.
10:06:29AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:06:32AM >> MY NAME IS BETSY RANDALL.
10:06:33AM THAT'S HARD TO FOLLOW.
10:06:35AM THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT -- SHE DID EVERYTHING.
10:06:44AM SHE SHOWED UP.
10:06:45AM WHEN YOU DESCRIBE LISA CHESSER, BOOTS ON THE GROUND, JUST DO
10:06:50AM IT.
10:06:51AM SHE'S THERE.
10:06:52AM SHE HAD HOW MANY PHONES?
10:06:54AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:06:54AM SHE WOULD DO A REGULAR JOB, AND THAT WAS ABOVE AND BEYOND
10:07:02AM WHAT MOST WOMEN COULD DO AND YET SHE SPENT TIME.
10:07:07AM I DON'T KNOW, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A DIVINE INTERVENTION WITH
10:07:09AM LISA.
10:07:10AM SHE WAS PUT HERE FOR A PURPOSE.
10:07:15AM PERSONALLY, SHE'S DONE SO MUCH FOR ME WHEN I NEEDED HER.
10:07:19AM SHE WAS THERE, SHE WOULD DROP EVERYTHING FOR ME.
10:07:21AM YOU'LL HEAR A THOUSAND OTHER STORIES FROM PEOPLE IN NEED AND
10:07:26AM PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE TODAY FOR ONE REASON OR THE
10:07:30AM OTHER.
10:07:31AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME LISTENING TO US.
10:07:35AM I CONSIDER THIS PARK TO BE A THANK-YOU BECAUSE WE CAN NEVER
10:07:40AM OUTGIVE LISA.
10:07:42AM AND IT WOULD BE A BLESSING TO HAVE A MEMORIAL FOR HER.
10:07:46AM THANK YOU.
10:07:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:07:47AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:48AM OUR LAST SPEAKER WAS EMILY.
10:07:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:07:53AM MY NAME IS EMILY BIEL.
10:07:55AM IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, LISA CHESSER WAS MY SISTER.
10:07:58AM OUR FAMILY MOVED TO TAMPA IN 1972.
10:08:01AM LISA ATTENDED SCHOOL IN TAMPA AND ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL
10:08:05AM GRADUATE.
10:08:06AM FOLLOWING GRADUATION, SHE HELD A SERIES OF JOBS, INCLUDING
10:08:09AM WAITRESSING AT THE NCO CLUB ON MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND
10:08:13AM WAS THE OWNER AND PROPRIETOR OF THE SILVER DOLLAR SALOON AT
10:08:17AM PORT TAMPA.
10:08:17AM SHE BECAME A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, OFTEN FIXING HOMES FOR FREE
10:08:22AM BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO FIX THEIR HOMES.
10:08:24AM LISA WORKED AS A CONCRETE ENGINEER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
10:08:28AM TRANSPORTATION AND FOR SEVERAL YEARS WORKED AT JACOB CIVIL
10:08:33AM ENGINEERING.
10:08:34AM LISA'S DNA AND FINGERPRINTS ARE LITERALLY ALL OVER TAMPA.
10:08:38AM HER LAST PROJECT SHE WORKED ON WAS THE EXPANSION AT TAMPA
10:08:42AM INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY AND EVEN THE
10:08:45AM SUNSHINE SKYWAY.
10:08:47AM SHE WAS AND REMAINS DEEPLY CONNECTED TO THE CITY.
10:08:50AM LISA MADE HER HOME IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:08:52AM HAD BOTH OF HER CHILDREN, SARAH AND JOSEPH AT TAMPA GENERAL
10:08:55AM HOSPITAL.
10:08:56AM THEY ARE BOTH HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT HER.
10:08:58AM WHILE HER CAREER MAY HAVE BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION, HER VOCATION
10:09:02AM WAS HELPING PEOPLE.
10:09:03AM LISA ALWAYS MADE TIME FOR OTHERS WHO WERE DOWN ON THEIR
10:09:06AM LUCK, LESS FORTUNATE, AND NEEDED A LITTLE HELP.
10:09:09AM SHE WOULD LITERALLY GIVE SOMEONE THE SHIRT OFF THEIR BACK IF
10:09:13AM THAT'S WHAT THEY NEEDED IN THE MOMENT.
10:09:15AM SHOWING KINDNESS AND PRESERVING PEOPLE'S DIGNITY WAS THE
10:09:20AM CORE OF WHAT SHE WAS AND INSPIRED OTHERS TO DO.
10:09:23AM EARLY ON, LISA WOULD TAKE FOOD INTO THE HOMELESS CAMPS SOUTH
10:09:27AM OF GANDY, OFFER A MEAL AND HAND UP TO THOSE WHO WOULD ACCEPT
10:09:31AM IT.
10:09:31AM AS EFFORTS GREW, HER CORE SUPPORTERS ENCOURAGED HER TO
10:09:35AM ESTABLISH HOPE ON THE HORIZON, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION
10:09:38AM PROVIDING FOOD, CLOTHING, HOUSING, FURNITURE, AND HOME GOODS
10:09:42AM TO VETERANS, THE UNHOMED AND FOOD INSECURE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:09:45AM THROUGH HER CHARITABLE WORK, LISA REPURPOSED, UPCYCLED AND
10:09:49AM REDISTRIBUTED TONS OF ITEMS.
10:09:51AM WHICH IN TURN KEPT THEM OUT OF LANDFILLS AND GAVE THEM TO
10:09:55AM THOSE WHO HAD LESS AND NEEDED MORE.
10:09:57AM IT MADE A DIFFERENCE.
10:09:58AM LISA'S CHARITABLE WORK TOUCHED THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS, MAYBE
10:10:02AM THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY.
10:10:04AM AND TAMPA, THE CITY OF TAMPA, THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
10:10:09AM IMPACT GENERATIONS.
10:10:10AM NAMING THIS PARK AFTER HER IS A FITTING CONTRIBUTE TO THE
10:10:13AM WORK SHE'S DONE AND HOPEFULLY HELPS PEOPLE REMEMBER THE
10:10:16AM DIFFERENCE SHE MADE AND INSPIRE THEM TO CONTINUE IT, PAY IT
10:10:19AM FORWARD AND MOST, IMPORTANTLY, BE KIND AND REMEMBER THAT
10:10:23AM EVERY PERSON DESERVES TO LIVE WITH DIGNITY.
10:10:25AM I'VE ONLY TOUCHED ON A FEW EXAMPLES OF THE IMPACT SHE MADE
10:10:30AM AND WHAT MAKES HER WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION FOR THIS HONOR.
10:10:34AM I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU'LL AGREE AND CONSIDER VOTING YES ON
10:10:38AM RENAMING THIS PARK.
10:10:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:10:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON ANOTHER CARD --
10:10:46AM >> LISA'S NAME IS ON MY CARD.
10:10:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE ROME YARD.
10:10:51AM >> LISA'S NAME WAS ALSO ON THERE.
10:10:53AM CAN I SPEAK OR NOT?
10:10:56AM THAT'S THE QUESTION.
10:10:57AM I SHOULD BE ABLE TO.
10:11:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:11:03AM THAT'S FINE.
10:11:06AM >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:11:08AM I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BRINGING THIS FORWARD THIS MORNING.
10:11:10AM THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THIS AND I'LL WORK WITH
10:11:13AM STAFF AND GET THIS STRAIGHT ON HOW THE PROCEDURE SHOULD GO
10:11:17AM FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.
10:11:19AM I MISUNDERSTOOD AND ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE HERE AND I WAS
10:11:23AM VERY STRESSED OUT ABOUT IT.
10:11:24AM SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
10:11:27AM YOU THINK I NEVER SLEEP, LISA MADE ME LOOK LIKE AN AMATEUR.
10:11:32AM SHE WAS IN CONSTRUCTION LEADERSHIP.
10:11:36AM SHE WAS AN ANGEL IN STEEL-TOED BOOTS.
10:11:39AM THAT IS THE MOST ACCURATE DESCRIPTION.
10:11:41AM I GUARANTEE YOU THAT EVERYBODY HERE WAS A BETTER PERSON
10:11:46AM BECAUSE SHE MADE THEM.
10:11:47AM I NEVER COOKED A TURKEY IN MY LIFE.
10:11:49AM SHE HAD ME COOKING FIVE TURKEYS ONE YEAR.
10:11:53AM FIVE TURKEYS I MADE FOR ONE THANKSGIVING BECAUSE SHE WANTED
10:11:55AM TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE GOT FED.
10:11:57AM BUT HER MOTTO, JUST LIVE, HER DISPOSITION, HER FAVORITE SONG
10:12:03AM WAS MAN IN THE MIRROR BY MICHAEL JACKSON BECAUSE SHE SAID
10:12:07AM YOU CAN MAKE THE CHANGE, AND NOT ONLY DID LISA MAKE THE
10:12:10AM CHANGE, BUT SHE MADE US ALL BETTER.
10:12:13AM RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU DID SOMETHING BECAUSE LISA TOLD YOU
10:12:17AM TO.
10:12:18AM SHE WAS JUST A AMAZING.
10:12:18AM THE HAIRS STAND UP ON THE BACK OF MY NECK.
10:12:21AM CHRISTMAS GIFTS, THOUSANDS OF KIDS GOT CHRISTMAS GIFTS.
10:12:26AM SHE NEVER STOPPED.
10:12:28AM HER WHOLE LIFE WAS GIVING AWAY TO OTHER PEOPLE.
10:12:30AM I GUARANTEE, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT HER MONEY.
10:12:33AM SHE MADE GOOD MONEY AND GAVE MOST OF IT AWAY.
10:12:36AM I WOULD CATCH HER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD PULLED OVER, HEY,
10:12:43AM LISA, WHAT ARE YOU DOING BECAUSE I NEEDED TO TALK TO HER.
10:12:46AM I'M CALLING THIS LADY'S INSURANCE COMPANY SO I CAN PAY HER
10:12:49AM INSURANCE SO SHE CAN STILL DRIVE A CAR TO WORK.
10:12:52AM NEXT TIME, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, LISA?
10:12:55AM PAYING SOMEBODY'S ELECTRIC BILL.
10:12:57AM IF NOT, THEY'LL SHUT OFF THEIR ELECTRIC.
10:13:01AM THERE WAS NEVER AN END.
10:13:02AM SHE NEVER, EVER SAID NO.
10:13:05AM NOT IF IT MADE SENSE.
10:13:07AM I WILL ALSO SAY THIS, THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE IN THIS
10:13:11AM WORLD WHO SCARED ME AND WHO I WOULD NOT GET INTO A FISTFIGHT
10:13:14AM WITH, BUT LISA CHESSER WAS ONE OF THEM.
10:13:17AM I WANT TO SAY THAT.
10:13:19AM SHE IS ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE I'VE EVER MET.
10:13:22AM I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, MY MOM HAS BEEN DEAD FOR 11 YEARS,
10:13:27AM BUT LISA CHESSER'S HOUSE SMELLED LIKE MY MOM'S HOUSE.
10:13:31AM WHEN I WALKED IN THERE, I WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, I'M HOME.
10:13:34AM YOU CANNOT IMAGINE ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO LIVE SOUTH OF GANDY
10:13:37AM AND WHO LOVE SOUTH OF GANDY, THEY KNOW THAT SHE WAS JUST
10:13:41AM AMAZING AND SHE WOULDN'T LET US HAVE A CELEBRATION OF LIFE
10:13:45AM AFTERWARDS AND THIS IS IT TODAY.
10:13:47AM I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MANY FOLKS HERE.
10:13:49AM THANK YOU.
10:13:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:13:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD BE HONORED TO SUPPORT THIS.
10:13:59AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:14:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE,
10:14:02AM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
10:14:04AM WHEN YOU HAVE A PERSON LIKE LISA, WE NEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND
10:14:08AM MORE LIKE LISA.
10:14:10AM I LEARNED TWO THINGS TODAY.
10:14:16AM LEARNED ABOUT LISA AND WHERE I CAN GO EAT THANKSGIVING
10:14:19AM TURKEY.
10:14:19AM IT BETTER BE WELL COOKED AND DONE RIGHT.
10:14:22AM LISA IS THE ONE THAT INSPIRED ALL OF YOU ONE BY ONE DOING
10:14:27AM DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU NEVER THOUGHT OF.
10:14:30AM BECAUSE OF HER PERSISTENCE IN SAYING THESE PEOPLE NEED HELP,
10:14:33AM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, THANK YOU FROM THIS COUNCIL
10:14:37AM BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE WAS DOING AND GIVE A
10:14:44AM SHOVE TO DO WHAT SHE WAS DOING.
10:14:46AM THAT SHOWS LEADERSHIP WITHOUT PRESSURE, AND ALL OF YOU HAVE
10:14:49AM SUCCEEDED IN THAT.
10:14:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:51AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU WANT TO READ IT?
10:14:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A COMMENT AND I'LL READ IT.
10:14:55AM YOU ALL ALLUDED TO THIS, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE
10:15:02AM FOREST IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:15:04AM MANY PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AND SAY, CAN YOU SEND THE POLICE IN
10:15:08AM AND CHASE THEM OUT?
10:15:09AM LISA KNEW ALL THEIR NAMES, AND SHE WOULD TRY TO HELP THEM
10:15:14AM FIND HOUSING.
10:15:15AM IF THEY LOST THE HOUSING, SHE WOULD HELP THEM FIND IT AGAIN
10:15:18AM AND HELP THEM FIND FOOD AND PUT TOGETHER THE FOOD KITCHEN
10:15:21AM AND OTHERS THINGS.
10:15:22AM SHE INSPIRED ALL OF US TO HAVE EMPATHY AND HUMANITY, AND WE
10:15:28AM CAN'T THANK HER ENOUGH AND HOPEFULLY REMEMBER THAT.
10:15:31AM MOVE 68, FILE HN 25-14352, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:15:36AM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
10:15:38AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE NAMING OF THE PROPOSED PARK AT
10:15:41AM MARCUM STREET AND PINEWOOD STREET IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO
10:15:44AM HONOR LISA MARIE CHESSER; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:15:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
10:15:49AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:15:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:15:51AM AYE.
10:15:52AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:15:52AM GO AHEAD AND READ THE VOTE.
10:15:55AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:15:56AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025, AT
10:15:59AM 10 A.M. AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:16:03AM 33602.
10:16:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHTY.
10:16:04AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:16:05AM WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT FOR THE ROOM TO CLEAR OUT A LITTLE BIT
10:16:14AM AND THEN WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:16:16AM IS ADRIANNE RODRIGUEZ REGISTERED AND ONLINE?
10:16:19AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH, ADRIANNE RODRIGUEZ AND THEN THE IN-PERSON.
10:16:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO MICHELLE VAN LOAN AND HER
10:16:41AM STAFF.
10:16:41AM THIS IS A VERY TIME-CONSUMING PROCESS.
10:16:44AM THANK YOU FOR PROCESSING THROUGH ALL OF IT OVER MANY MONTHS.
10:17:20AM >> THANK YOU.
10:17:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:17:21AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:17:22AM ALL RIGHT.
10:17:25AM WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
10:17:27AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH IS THE FIRST SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY ADRIAN
10:17:30AM RODRIGUEZ.
10:17:30AM AND THEN GO TO THE IN-PERSON, WHICH I HAVE HERE.
10:17:33AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND
10:17:36AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:17:36AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:17:37AM >> MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:17:39AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
10:17:41AM ON APRIL 30th, FROM AROUND THE NATION REFLECTING THE
10:17:51AM WIDESPREAD IMPACT OF FUNDING REDUCTION.
10:17:54AM FLORIDA IS ONE OF THREE STATES WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF
10:18:00AM FEDERAL BUDGET CUTS OF ALL WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA
10:18:06AM REDUCING FUNDING FOR NONPROFITS IN GENERAL.
10:18:08AM SINCE THE EARLY 2025, THOUSANDS OF NONPROFITS HAVE CLOSED
10:18:15AM NATIONWIDE, FROM CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK, AND FLORIDA, SEEING
10:18:20AM THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF REDUCTIONS.
10:18:25AM COMMUNITY BASED NONPROFITS, ARTS AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND
10:18:29AM HEALTH CARE SERVICES HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY AFFECTED BY THESE
10:18:35AM CUTS.
10:18:35AM LOSSES IN NONPROFIT SECTORS FROM JANUARY TO MARCH OF 2025,
10:18:42AM NONPROFITS LOST 10,000 FULL-TIME JOBS, MAINLY IN HEALTH CARE
10:18:52AM SERVICES -- THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION GOVERNMENT HAS
10:18:55AM DOWNSIZED 280,000 FEDERAL JOBS HAVE BEEN CUT IN THE FIRST
10:19:01AM FOUR MONTHS OF 2025.
10:19:02AM 216,000 WERE CUT IN THE MONTH OF MARCH ALONE.
10:19:08AM OUR UPCOMING WORKSHOP ON NONPROFIT DEVELOPMENT AND FUNDING
10:19:13AM OPPORTUNITIES ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY TIME BEFORE,
10:19:18AM ESPECIALLY FOR GROUPS NAVIGATING THE FINANCIAL TIMES.
10:19:21AM FINALLY, OTHER RESOURCES OF FUNDING, WHETHER PRIVATE,
10:19:28AM CORPORATE FOUNDATION OR GRASSROOTS FUNDING IS CRITICAL.
10:19:31AM OUR UPCOMING WORKSHOP ON MAY 31st WILL BE ON NATIONAL
10:19:38AM NONPROFITS.
10:19:39AM ON JUNE THE 25th, WE'LL FOCUS ON NONPROFITS IN WEST TAMPA.
10:19:45AM DON'T FORGET OUR UPCOMING WORKSHOP ALSO FOR UNDERSTANDING
10:19:51AM INVESTMENT IN LENDERS, CREATING A MARKETABLE BUSINESS PLAN,
10:19:56AM SALES AND MARKETING 101 AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE,
10:20:01AM HOME-BASED BUSINESS WORKSHOP.
10:20:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RANDOLPH.
10:20:05AM ADRIANNE RODRIGUEZ IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.
10:20:07AM MR. RODRIGUEZ, IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND
10:20:10AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:20:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:20:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:20:20AM GO AHEAD.
10:20:20AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:20:22AM >> ADRIANNE RODRIGUEZ.
10:20:23AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:20:26AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT REPARATIONS TO THE AFRICAN
10:20:29AM AMERICAN COMMUNITY ARE LONG OVERDUE.
10:20:31AM I HOPE THAT THE MAYOR, THAT THEY'LL DO THE RIGHT THING AND
10:20:35AM WORK WITH THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE BECAUSE TAMPA
10:20:38AM HAS A BIG DEBT TO PAY.
10:20:40AM I'M ACTUALLY WANTING TO SPEAK AGAIN ON THE PARCELS AT
10:20:44AM WOODLAWN CEMETERY.
10:20:46AM IF YOU GO TO WOODLAWN CEMETERY, FIND A GRAVE AND YOU TOP IN
10:20:49AM THE TOP FIVE SURNAMES OF AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THE EARLY
10:20:51AM 1900s, LATE 1800s, WILLIAMS, JOHNSON, SMITH, JONES, AND
10:20:58AM BROWN, YOU WILL SEE -- MANY, MANY ARE BURIED IN POTTERS
10:21:04AM FIELD, BUT ALSO MANY THAT DO NOT HAVE A GRAVE LOCATION.
10:21:07AM AS WE KNOW, CITY OF TAMPA OWNS MOST OF THE 40 ACRES AT
10:21:12AM WOODLAWN.
10:21:13AM I WOULD SAY ABOUT 95%, WHICH IS OCCUPIED THROUGHOUT THE
10:21:17AM ENTIRE CEMETERY.
10:21:17AM THE BIG QUESTION WAS, WHERE ARE THE WILLIAMS AND THE
10:21:23AM JOHNSONS AND THE SMITHS AND THE JONES AND THE BROWNS THAT
10:21:27AM DID NOT HAVE A BURIAL SPACE, LOT NUMBER.
10:21:31AM SO THAT PUTS A BIG QUESTION MARK OVER THE PARCEL OF LAND.
10:21:36AM CITY OF TAMPA RESPONDED BY SAYING AT THIS TIME, THE CITY IS
10:21:39AM NOT PURSUING ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY.
10:21:42AM THE PARCEL LIES OUTSIDE OF A DESIGNATED CRA AREA AND ANY
10:21:45AM POTENTIAL PURCHASE WOULD THEREFORE REQUIRE USE OF GENERAL
10:21:49AM FUNDS.
10:21:50AM THE CITY DOES NOT TYPICALLY ACQUIRE OR MANAGE PROPERTIES OF
10:21:53AM THIS NATURE AND NO FUNDING SOURCE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED TO
10:21:56AM SUPPORT ACQUISITION OR ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
10:21:59AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE ON A 1.46-ACRE PARCEL OF
10:22:04AM GRASS.
10:22:05AM THAT IS WHAT IT WOULD COST TO MAINTAIN, IF THEY NOW OWN
10:22:09AM ABOUT 95% OF WOODLAWN, WHY WOULD THEY NOT WANT TO OWN 95.5
10:22:14AM OR 95.6.
10:22:18AM SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY OF TAMPA SPENDS MONEY LIKE A
10:22:20AM DRUNKEN SAILOR ON THE THINGS THAT THE MAYOR WANTS, THE HANNA
10:22:26AM CENTER.
10:22:26AM THE WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT THING.
10:22:29AM I'M NOT GOING TO GO OFF ON THAT.
10:22:31AM LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
10:22:33AM THAT ARE SPENT ON BULL CRAP, I'M TRYING TO ABIDE BY THE
10:22:38AM RULES OF DECORUM, WE'RE ASKING FOR A PARCEL TO BE PURCHASED
10:22:44AM BY THE CITY.
10:22:45AM THERE ARE BLACK BODIES ON THAT PARCEL OF LAND.
10:22:49AM I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO 2014, ARTHUR GREEN JR.
10:22:53AM SHOULD I BRING UP BIKING WHILE BLACK?
10:22:55AM WELL, I'VE DECIDED TO CALL THIS BURIED WHILE BLACK, BECAUSE
10:22:59AM THEY ARE BEING SHOWN DISRESPECT IN-DEPTH AS THEY WERE IN
10:23:03AM LIFE.
10:23:03AM SO I'M ASKING ONE FINAL TIME BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE
10:23:08AM A MAYOR DECISION BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, SHE HAS A PROBLEM WITH
10:23:12AM BLACK PEOPLE.
10:23:13AM THAT'S MY OPINION.
10:23:14AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE THE CITY LOOKING
10:23:22AM INTO PURCHASING THAT PARCEL.
10:23:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:23:25AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:26AM HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
10:23:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU TOO, MA'AM.
10:23:29AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:29AM OUR SPEAKERS IN PERSON BEGINNING ARE MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:23:33AM SHE SPOKE ON WHAT WAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:23:35AM THIS IS FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:23:37AM MRS. STEPHANIE POYNOR, CARROLL ANN BENNETT, TINA ADAMS.
10:23:48AM >> ALWAYS FUNNY.
10:24:09AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:24:11AM ROME YARD HAS COME UP TODAY.
10:24:14AM YOU GUYS KNOW ROME YARD IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS TO TALK
10:24:18AM ABOUT.
10:24:19AM WE HAVE THIS MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.
10:24:23AM ON THE SECOND PAGE, THIS IS IN YOUR PACKETS, I'M SORRY.
10:24:26AM I SHOULD HAVE WAITED.
10:24:28AM BUT MY FAVORITE PART OF THIS IS THE INTERRUPTION OR STOP
10:24:31AM WORK ORDER OF THREE OR MORE YEARS IN CONNECTION WITH THE
10:24:35AM PROJECT SUBJECT TO CONTRAST FOR PROFESSIONAL, BLAH, BLAH,
10:24:40AM BLAH.
10:24:40AM THAT IS REASON FOR TERMINATION OF A CONTRACT.
10:24:43AM IT SAYS RIGHT HERE ON THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE 3 OF YOUR HANDOUT,
10:24:48AM IT SAYS MAY 5, 2022.
10:24:51AM THAT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO IT WAS THREE YEARS.
10:24:53AM I'M JUST SAYING.
10:24:54AM I ALSO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT I THINK YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE
10:24:58AM A FEW MINUTES AND ASK YOURSELVES AND ASK WHEN THE ITEMS 45
10:25:02AM AND 46 COME UP.
10:25:03AM I WROTE THEM ON THERE FOR YOU.
10:25:05AM I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM BECAUSE
10:25:07AM EVERYONE UP THERE CAN READ.
10:25:09AM ALSO, BECAUSE STAFF OR BECAUSE MR. SHELBY DOES NOT LIKE FOR
10:25:13AM YOU ALL TO GO INTO ACCELA, BUT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHAT WAS
10:25:17AM IN ACCELA FOR ROME YARD.
10:25:19AM NONE OF THIS LOOKS LIKE ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD.
10:25:22AM I FORGOT TO PRINT OUT THE PICTURES.
10:25:24AM I WENT BY THERE TWO DAYS AGO AND IT LOOKS LIKE NOTHING.
10:25:28AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IF RELATED GROUP OR ROME YARD, WHOEVER,
10:25:33AM THE APPLICANT, LET'S CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE, THE APPLICANT
10:25:36AM WANTS TO PUSH BACK THE TIMELINE AGAIN, MIND YOU, I CAN'T GET
10:25:39AM THE FIRST TIMELINE.
10:25:40AM I ASKED FOR IT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES, THREE OR FOUR
10:25:44AM DIFFERENT WAYS BUT ONLY GOT THE ONE FROM LAST YEAR.
10:25:46AM THE TIMELINE TALKED ABOUT ON THE MEMO IS NOT THE ORIGINAL
10:25:49AM TIMELINE.
10:25:49AM THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN PLAY SINCE 2022.
10:25:53AM THAT'S WHEN YOU GUYS APPROVED THE RESOLUTION.
10:25:54AM NOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THAT FOR US, WHAT ARE THEY
10:25:58AM GOING TO DO FOR US?
10:25:59AM BECAUSE WHEN YOU RENEGOTIATE SOMETHING, YOU GET MORE WHEN
10:26:04AM YOU GET LESS.
10:26:05AM FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW THAT THE YELLOW JACKETS NEED SOME SPACE
10:26:09AM OUT THERE.
10:26:10AM I KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING -- THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING A
10:26:13AM CULTURAL CENTER.
10:26:15AM ARE WE GOING TO ASK FOR THAT?
10:26:16AM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT, FOLKS.
10:26:19AM IF NOTHING ELSE, WE NEED BUS STOPS IN THAT AREA.
10:26:22AM THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND START ON THAT NOW.
10:26:24AM HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE GOING TO SCREW AROUND WITH THIS
10:26:27AM PROJECT?
10:26:27AM WE HAVE PROJECTS, FUN LAND.
10:26:29AM LOOK AT FUN LAND.
10:26:30AM IT'S ALMOST DONE, AND IT WAS APPROVED AFTER THIS PROJECT.
10:26:35AM WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO
10:26:37AM BUILD A CULTURAL CENTER, THE LAND NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO BE IN
10:26:42AM THE PROPERTY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:26:43AM IT DOES NOT NEED TO GO TO RELATED GROUP.
10:26:46AM I HAVE OTHER ISSUES WHICH I HAVE POINTED OUT TO YOU IN
10:26:49AM E-MAILS, LIKE GIVING AWAY THOSE TOWN HOUSE LOTS FOR $2500,
10:26:53AM AND THEY CAN BE UP TO 199% OF AMI.
10:26:57AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, BUT THAT'S ABOUT 200 GRAND A
10:27:00AM YEAR YOU CAN MAKE TO PURCHASE THOSE.
10:27:02AM THAT'S POOP.
10:27:05AM THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
10:27:08AM THAT'S RICH PEOPLE HOUSING BECAUSE THEY SURE AS HELL HAVE
10:27:12AM MORE MONEY THAN I DO.
10:27:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY TINA ADAMS.
10:27:17AM GOOD MORNING, CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:27:25AM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
10:27:29AM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, CITY COUNCIL DEBATED THE USE OF
10:27:32AM F.A.R. AND SINGLE USE PROJECTS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:27:35AM THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE COUNTY PLANNING
10:27:37AM COMMISSION STAFF RESEARCHED DEVELOPMENT IN SOUTH TAMPA AND
10:27:40AM PRESENTED THIS REPORT.
10:27:42AM PLEASE PLAY THE VIDEOS.
10:27:49AM >> COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ESTABLISHES UNIQUE VISIONS FOR THE NEW
10:27:51AM TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
10:27:54AM DISTRICT.
10:27:54AM THOSE EXCERPTS ARE SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN.
10:27:57AM THESE ARE BASED UPON WITH THE LIMITED GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES
10:28:01AM IN THESE AREAS.
10:28:02AM AND THE RESEARCH THAT WE PERFORMED, YOU CAN SEE THE SLIDE
10:28:07AM DISPLAYS THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE
10:28:10AM CITY OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS.
10:28:11AM THE MOST RECENT TEN YEARS OF GROWTH IS BROKEN INTO FIVE-YEAR
10:28:15AM INCREMENTS.
10:28:16AM 2010 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE SHOWN IN GRAY.
10:28:19AM THE GROWTH FROM 2010 TO 2015, THAT INCREASE IS SHOWN IN DARK
10:28:25AM BLUE AND THE GROWTH THAT OCCURRED FROM 2015 TO 2020 IS SHOWN
10:28:29AM IN RED.
10:28:30AM THE TWO DISTRICTS THAT HAVE SEEN THE HIGHEST RESIDENTIAL
10:28:35AM GROWTH IN THAT PERIOD ARE THE NEW TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
10:28:37AM AND THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
10:28:39AM THIS TREND IS NOT IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN'S
10:28:42AM VISION FOR GROWTH, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIMITED IN THESE
10:28:46AM TWO DISTRICTS.
10:28:47AM LOOKING AT THE NEW TAMPA TREND, IT APPEARS THAT THE RATE OF
10:28:50AM GROWTH, RESIDENTIAL GROWTH IS DECREASING SINCE THE GROWTH
10:28:54AM FROM 2010 TO 2015 WAS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE GROWTH
10:28:57AM FROM 2015 TO 2020.
10:28:59AM SO THE RED IS SMALLER THAN THE BLUE.
10:29:02AM WE SEE THE GROWTH IS ACTUALLY DECREASING.
10:29:04AM WHEREAS IN THE SOUTH TAMPA DISTRICT, THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
10:29:07AM THE RED, THE GROWTH IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IS MORE THAN THE
10:29:10AM GROWTH THAT OCCURRED IN THE FIVE YEARS PRIOR.
10:29:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE ANOTHER VIDEO OR IS THAT THE
10:29:19AM CONCLUSION?
10:29:20AM >> THERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
10:29:24AM >> VIDEO: BASED ON THE DISTRICT CHARACTERISTICS, THE
10:29:26AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAVE VIEWED THESE TWO DISTRICTS AS
10:29:29AM PROVIDING, QUOTE, LIMITED GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES, UNQUOTE.
10:29:34AM ALSO REFERENCES IN THIS COMP PLAN CALLING THESE TWO AREAS,
10:29:36AM QUOTE, AREAS OF STABILITY, UNQUOTE.
10:29:40AM THE COMP PLAN REALLY ENVISIONS THE THREE CORE DISTRICTS,
10:29:44AM CENTRAL, WESTSHORE, AND UNIVERSITY, AS HAVING THE MOST
10:29:47AM GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:29:50AM THE MAJORITY OF TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:29:54AM ARE FOUND WITHIN THE CENTRAL, WESTSHORE, AND UNIVERSITY
10:29:57AM PLANNING DISTRICTS.
10:30:00AM >> SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS
10:30:04AM BETWEEN 2015 AND 2020, THE RATE OF GROWTH IN SOUTH TAMPA
10:30:08AM ACTUALLY INCREASED, AND THAT THE HIGH GROWTH YOU SAW IN NEW
10:30:11AM TAMPA WASN'T ON THE VIDEO, BUT IT WAS DUE TO LARGE
10:30:14AM SUBDIVISIONS THAT WERE APPROVED A WHOLE LONG TIME AGO AND
10:30:19AM THEY ARE FINISHING OUT.
10:30:22AM THAT IS KIND OF AN ANOMALY IN ITS ENDING.
10:30:25AM SOUTH TAMPA HAS EXPERIENCED THE HIGHEST RATE OF GROWTH AND
10:30:27AM UNIVERSITY HAS ONLY HAD A 1% RATE OF GROWTH, AND THEY ARE
10:30:30AM THE JOB CENTER AND THE AREA THAT TRANSIT CAN BE EXPANDED THE
10:30:35AM MOST EASILY ACCORDING TO JEAN DUNCAN.
10:30:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TINA ADAMS, GREEN, BURTON.
10:30:42AM >> I'M TINA ADAMS.
10:30:44AM FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
10:30:49AM THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR EXPEDITING PERMITTING AND
10:30:56AM WAIVING FEES FOR VICTIMS OF THE FLOOD AND PEOPLE WHOSE HOMES
10:31:01AM WERE FLOODED.
10:31:03AM I HAVE FRIENDS AND COWORKERS IN PINELLAS COUNTY WHO WERE NOT
10:31:08AM SO FORTUNATE AS TO LIVE IN TAMPA WHERE YOUR SUPPORT REALLY
10:31:13AM MEANT A LOT.
10:31:14AM SO I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR APPROVING THE
10:31:19AM DESIGN PHASE FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD BUSINESS.
10:31:23AM THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECTS.
10:31:27AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND A NUMBER OF
10:31:32AM NEIGHBORS IN SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:31:34AM A LOT OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND DOCTORS' OFFICES IN THAT
10:31:38AM AREA.
10:31:38AM SOME OF THEM, UNFORTUNATELY, HAVE CLOSED, LIKE SKIN SAVVY.
10:31:45AM BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU'VE THROWN US A LIFELINE OF HOPE,
10:31:50AM AND THAT MEANS A LOT.
10:31:51AM IT MEANS THAT WE HAVE HOPE THAT THE CITY AND OUR ELECTED
10:31:59AM OFFICIALS ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING TO US AND WANTING TO HELP
10:32:03AM THE HOMEOWNERS AND SMALL BUSINESSES, AND IT REALLY MEANS A
10:32:09AM LOT.
10:32:10AM BUT WE NEED MORE THAN JUST A LIFELINE.
10:32:13AM WE NEED YOU TO PULL US OUT OF THE WATER, LITERALLY AND
10:32:17AM FIGURATIVELY.
10:32:18AM BECAUSE WE'RE ALL DROWNING.
10:32:24AM I BROUGHT YOU SOME LIFE SAVERS TODAY.
10:32:27AM BECAUSE I NEED YOU TO BE LIFE SAVERS.
10:32:31AM I NEED YOU TO HELP US ALL FEEL SAFE IN OUR HOMES AGAIN.
10:32:37AM THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS AFFECTING PEOPLE EVERY TIME IT
10:32:42AM RAINS AND EVERYONE SHOULD FEEL SAFE IN THEIR HOMES, AND WE
10:32:46AM DON'T.
10:32:47AM PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB NOW SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT AS
10:32:53AM LONG AS IT IS THE HOWARD TO SWANN ROUTE.
10:32:56AM I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE ROUTE.
10:32:58AM I JUST WANT A ROUTE THAT WILL HELP THE MOST PEOPLE, BE THE
10:33:01AM MOST COST EFFICIENT AND HELP PEOPLE BE SAFE IN THEIR HOMES
10:33:06AM AGAIN BECAUSE EVERYONE SHOULD FEEL SAFE IN THEIR HOME.
10:33:10AM YOUR HOME SHOULD BE YOUR SAFE PLACE.
10:33:13AM PLEASE LET IT BE AGAIN.
10:33:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:18AM MARTY GREENE, CONNIE BURTON, VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:33:22AM MENTESNOT, KELLA McCASKILL.
10:33:25AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:33:27AM >> MY NAME IS MARTY GREENE.
10:33:28AM I WORK WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA MOBILITY.
10:33:29AM THIS IS POTHOLES AND PATCHING IT.
10:33:33AM THIS IS THE POTHOLE THAT I HAVE DONE PERSONALLY.
10:33:35AM AND THIS IS CONCRETE THAT RESIDENTS ARE PUTTING IN POTHOLES
10:33:39AM BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD NOT FIX IT.
10:33:40AM I TOLD THEM THE CORRECT WAY, HOW YOU DO IT.
10:33:43AM YOU CUT IT, CLEAN IT, THEN PUT THE ASPHALT.
10:33:48AM I WAS TOLD BY SUPERVISOR ANTHONY STAFFORD THAT AS LONG AS
10:33:52AM THE POTHOLES POP UP IN THE CITY, I HAVE A JOB.
10:33:55AM BUT HOW CAN YOU NOT FIX THE THINGS DONE RIGHT?
10:33:58AM I'M QUITE SURE ALL YOU ALL HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT POTHOLES.
10:34:02AM WHEN I BROUGHT UP ISSUES, I GOT WRITTEN UP BECAUSE OF THE
10:34:05AM E-MAILS I HAVE WRITTEN.
10:34:07AM THEY TOLD ME THEY REFRAIN ME FROM WRITING E-MAILS.
10:34:10AM MICHAEL BROWN TO BE EXACT.
10:34:11AM REFRAINED ME FROM WRITING E-MAILS.
10:34:13AM HOW CAN YOU REFRAIN ME FROM WRITING E-MAILS AND SPEAKING ON
10:34:15AM THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
10:34:17AM I HAVE WENT TO HR, KIMBERLY ANDERSON.
10:34:21AM SHE'S RIGHT ALONG WITH THEM.
10:34:22AM SHE'S WITH MANAGEMENT.
10:34:23AM E-MAILED JEAN DUNCAN ABOUT IT AND NEVER RESPOND FROM HER.
10:34:28AM STEVEN SIMON, THE UNION PRESIDENT, HE'S NO GOOD.
10:34:31AM HE RUB ELBOWS WITH MANAGEMENT.
10:34:33AM NOT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL, HE WANT TO BE A POLITICIAN.
10:34:38AM DOESN'T WANT TO HELP US.
10:34:39AM HE'S TRYING TO GET INTO ANOTHER POSITION.
10:34:41AM INSTEAD OF GOING AND SPEAKING ON SITUATIONS AS LONG-TERM
10:34:45AM EMPLOYEES FOR THE PURPOSE OF RAISING THE SALARY, FOR THE
10:34:48AM MULTIPLIER.
10:34:49AM FROM 1.2 TO 1.9 TO INCREASE THE COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT
10:34:54AM FROM 1.0 TO 2.2.
10:34:58AM THESE ARE CRITICAL CHANGES FOR ALL THE OLD PEOPLE THAT HAVE
10:35:02AM BEEN WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
10:35:05AM SO THEREFORE, THEY ARE FROM THE U.S. AND THE ECONOMY HAS
10:35:10AM WENT UP.
10:35:11AM RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE STRUGGLING.
10:35:13AM THEY ARE RETIRING AND STRUGGLING.
10:35:15AM INSTEAD OF THE UNION PRESIDENT WANTING TO STEP UP AND TALK
10:35:19AM TO US AND LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, NO, THAT'S NOT
10:35:24AM CORRECT.
10:35:24AM AND GOING BACK TO BEING WRITTEN UP FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU
10:35:29AM BRING TO THEIR ATTENTION ABOUT MULTIPLE LAWSUITS THAT
10:35:33AM POTENTIALLY HAPPEN.
10:35:34AM I HAVE CAME UP WITH -- SAT DOWN WITH MANAGEMENT AND TOLD
10:35:37AM THEM, THIS IS HOW WE CAN CORRECT THIS.
10:35:39AM BUT INSTEAD, WE MAKE CITY TIKTOK SAYING THEY NOT LIKE US.
10:35:44AM HOW THEY NOT LIKE US AND WE ARE DOING IT WORSE THAN THEY ARE
10:35:48AM DOING IT.
10:35:48AM I CAME FROM THE COUNTY.
10:35:49AM I KNOW WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
10:35:52AM RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT DOING IT.
10:35:54AM THIS SUPERVISOR THAT IS OVER -- GETTING PAID OVER 6 FIGURES
10:35:58AM A YEAR FOR SOMETHING HE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
10:36:00AM HE GOT PUT IN THAT POSITION FROM SOME FORM OF NEPOTISM
10:36:04AM BECAUSE THAT'S MICHAEL BROWN'S FRIEND.
10:36:06AM THEREFORE, SOMETHING NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF HUNDRED
10:36:08AM THOUSAND DOLLARS, WE HAVE THREE FIX TRUCKS -- FIVE.
10:36:14AM $380,000 FROM THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.
10:36:16AM THEREFORE, OUT OF ALL FIVE, ONLY ONE IS WORKING CORRECTLY.
10:36:20AM THEREFORE, ALL THIS MONEY THAT WE ARE SPENDING, SOMETHING
10:36:22AM NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT IS BAD AND
10:36:25AM NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
10:36:27AM WE SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY.
10:36:29AM THAT'S YOUR MONEY AND OUR MONEY AS WELL.
10:36:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONNIE BURTON, VALERIE BULLOCK,
10:36:35AM MENTESNOT, KELLA McCASKILL.
10:36:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
10:36:44AM MAY 19th, 1925 WAS OUR -- BROTHER MALCOLM X WAS BORN.
10:36:55AM DR. KING SAID, YOU KNOW, IT AIN'T NO PROBLEM THAT WHEN YOU
10:37:00AM EXPOSE WHAT IS WRONG, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO
10:37:02AM HAVE A PROPER HEALING.
10:37:05AM IT HAS TO BE EXPOSED.
10:37:07AM WE HAVE TO HAVE LOUD VOICES COMING FROM UP THERE.
10:37:10AM EVERYBODY CAN'T JUST BE A HEAD NODDER.
10:37:15AM WHAT I'VE SEEN THIS MORNING FROM THE DEAR WONDERFUL PEOPLE
10:37:17AM WHO CAME HERE AND SAID THE PARK SHOULD BE NAMED LISA AND THE
10:37:22AM OTHER COUNCILMAN SAYING THAT IT SHOULD BE NAMED -- WE DON'T
10:37:26AM WANT TO HEAR NO MORE WHY WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE AIN'T GOING TO
10:37:31AM BE ABLE TO NAME FAIR OAKS WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE NAMED.
10:37:34AM AIN'T GOING TO BE NO TURNING US AROUND BECAUSE WE WANT TO
10:37:37AM MAKE OTHER PEOPLE COMFORTABLE.
10:37:39AM IT'S WHAT WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:37:41AM WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS ITEM NUMBER 80.
10:37:48AM PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO SIT THROUGH THE WHOLE DISCUSSION.
10:37:50AM BUT IN 2010, THAT IS WHEN THE FIRST SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM WAS
10:37:55AM FUNDED BY THE CRA.
10:37:57AM AND THE NUMBER IT LANDED IN WAS 36.
10:38:02AM HOW DID WE COME TO 72, 36 PLUS 36 IS 72, RIGHT?
10:38:07AM WE SAID THAT THE CITY AND THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, THE CRA
10:38:12AM BOARD, SAID WE HAD HAD ENOUGH TIME THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
10:38:16AM EXPAND THE PROGRAM.
10:38:17AM I WANT TO HEAR THE NUMBERS THAT WAS LANDED, AND THIS IS NOT
10:38:21AM AN ATTACK ON MRS. WYNN, BECAUSE I BELIEVE SHE WEAR 45
10:38:27AM DIFFERENT HATS WITH THE CITY, BUT IF PEOPLE WOULD JUST FORM
10:38:31AM REAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE COULD HAVE
10:38:34AM SUGGESTED WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK IN
10:38:40AM LANDSCAPING AS THEY ARE EXPOSED TO OTHER GREATER
10:38:43AM OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY.
10:38:44AM BUT TO, IN MY OPINION, SABOTAGE THAT WE CAN'T GET TO 72,
10:38:52AM WHEN THIS CITY HAS A $1.9 BILLION BUDGET, THE CRA HAS NOT
10:38:58AM BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN OUR COMMUNITY IN
10:39:02AM ALMOST 20 YEARS.
10:39:03AM WE HAVE TO OFFER OUR YOUNG PEOPLE MORE THAN HOPE.
10:39:07AM THEY NEED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
10:39:10AM AND IF WE TRACK MANY YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE WILL
10:39:14AM SEE THAT BASED ON THE LACK OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR
10:39:18AM COMMUNITY, WE SEE THE PATHWAY TO JAIL THAT WAS HANDED TO
10:39:21AM THEIR DADDIES, THEIR UNCLES, THEIR COUSINS, AND WE ARE
10:39:26AM PLANNING ON STANDING TOE TO TOE IN THE LEGACY OF MALCOLM X
10:39:31AM AND OTHERS, THAT SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO KEEP ON FIGHTING
10:39:35AM THE STRUGGLE UNTIL WE SEE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN OUR
10:39:38AM COMMUNITY.
10:39:40AM WE'RE NOT LEAVING IT UP TO JUST OUR REPRESENTATIVE TO DO IT.
10:39:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:39:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:44AM VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:39:46AM MENTESNOT, KELLA McCASKILL AND SURGRET DOSS.
10:39:56AM >> IT WAS SO HEARTBREAKING TO HEAR THE WOMEN WITH THE SHIRT
10:40:01AM ON FOR LISA FOR THE PARK.
10:40:04AM I HEARD ALL THE GOOD THINGS THEY SAID ABOUT HER.
10:40:07AM I'M SURE SHE IS A GOOD WOMAN AND GOOD HONOR THAT YOU DID.
10:40:11AM BACK TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY, WHEN FAIR OAKS CAME DOWN HERE
10:40:17AM IN JANUARY, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
10:40:18AM WE ALL HAD ON OUR SHIRTS.
10:40:20AM WE ALL STOOD UP AND TALKED ABOUT COACH ARTIS GAMBRELL, HOW
10:40:26AM HE WAS THE GRANDFATHER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW EVERYBODY
10:40:28AM KNEW HIM AND EVERYTHING.
10:40:30AM THEN MS. ABBYE FEELEY CAME AND EVERYTHING GOT STOPPED, PUT
10:40:34AM ON HOLD.
10:40:34AM SO SOMEONE WENT UP TO HER, ARE THEY GOING TO VOTE ON THAT
10:40:39AM TODAY?
10:40:39AM NO, WE'LL PUT IT OFF FOR SIX MONTHS.
10:40:41AM IT SHOULDN'T BE DISPARAGED LIKE THAT.
10:40:45AM THE SAME WAY HOW YOU RUBBER STAMP HER, ARTIS GAMBRELL SHOULD
10:40:50AM HAVE GOTTEN RUBBER STAMPED TOO.
10:40:53AM IT IS THESE KIND OF DISPARITIES THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR
10:40:56AM ANSWERS.
10:40:57AM WHY DID THIS HAPPEN OR WHY DIDN'T THAT HAPPEN?
10:40:59AM BECAUSE IT WAS THE SAME THING.
10:41:01AM THE SAME SCENARIO.
10:41:03AM I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M LIKE, WOW, IS THIS HAPPENING?
10:41:06AM NOBODY COULDN'T HAVE TOLD ME IT HAPPENED.
10:41:11AM I HAD TO SEE IT.
10:41:13AM WE NEED TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION.
10:41:15AM WE NEED TO PUT WHENEVER YOU PUT HER ON THE AGENDA, LISA ON
10:41:21AM THE AGENDA FOR JUNE 6, YOU NEED TO PUT FAIR OAKS UP THERE
10:41:25AM WITH MR. ARTIS GAMBRELL.
10:41:27AM THAT'S HOW WE REMEDY THAT SITUATION.
10:41:30AM ANOTHER THING, THE CITY OF TAMPA ALWAYS SAYING THEY DON'T
10:41:34AM HAVE NO MONEY.
10:41:35AM SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME NUMBER 24.
10:41:39AM $1.1 MILLION FOR SOME DAMN SOAP.
10:41:45AM PLEASE TELL ME.
10:41:46AM THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE.
10:41:47AM DID ANYBODY DO A STUDY? MAYBE WE CAN GET IT CHEAPER.
10:41:50AM WHY DON'T WE BUY THE CLOROX BUILDING AND HAVE THE SALT THERE
10:41:57AM TO MAKE THE LIQUID CHLORINE BLEACH.
10:41:59AM THAT IS A WASTE OF MONEY IN MY OPINION.
10:42:03AM STUFF LIKE THIS THAT KEEPS SLIDING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
10:42:06AM I COME UP HERE AND SAY I'VE BEEN IN EAST TAMPA ALL MY LIFE,
10:42:09AM I WANT MY KITCHEN FIXED, OH, YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH THESE
10:42:12AM HOOPS.
10:42:13AM WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR THAT.
10:42:16AM WE RAN OUT OF MONEY.
10:42:17AM OF COURSE, YOU DID BECAUSE OF MAKING STUPID DEALS LIKE THIS.
10:42:21AM THANK YOU.
10:42:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:42:22AM MENTESNOT, KELLA McCASKILL.
10:42:29AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA, UHURU.
10:42:31AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
10:42:36AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
10:42:38AM FREEDOM.
10:42:38AM 825 YEARS UNDER OCCUPATION, UNDER DOMINATION.
10:42:44AM 825 YEARS.
10:42:45AM I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:42:47AM GET PERSONAL THIS MORNING.
10:42:49AM MY MOTHER, WHEN MY FATHER WAS IN HIS DYING DEATHBED, MY
10:42:54AM MOTHER USED TO TREAT HIM.
10:42:55AM WE DIDN'T KNOW ANY DIFFERENT.
10:42:57AM WE WAS YOUNGER.
10:42:58AM SHE USED TO TREAT HIM SO BAD.
10:43:01AM SHE WOULD BRING MEN IN THE HOUSE.
10:43:03AM HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THEM.
10:43:05AM MY FATHER WOULD BE IN THE OTHER ROOM.
10:43:09AM NOTHING HE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
10:43:11AM SHE USED TO TREAT HIM DIRTY AS A DOG.
10:43:15AM P DITTY WAS DOING TO CASSIE AND OTHER PEOPLE.
10:43:21AM MY MOTHER WASN'T THAT BAD AFTER ALL.
10:43:24AM AND THEN SEE WHAT CITY OF TAMPA DO TO BLACK PEOPLE.
10:43:30AM MY MOTHER, P. DIDDY, AND SOME OF THE OTHER BLACK GROUPS THAT
10:43:35AM YOU WANT TO CALL BLACK GROUPS LIKE THE EXAMPLE OF AN AFRICAN
10:43:42AM MAN, BILL COSBY OR WHO SO FAR, WHO SO FAR, WHO SO FAR.
10:43:46AM THEY WEREN'T THAT BAD AFTER ALL.
10:43:48AM THEY HAD A PROGRAM RIGHT HERE WHERE THEY HIRED AN AFRICAN
10:43:53AM MAN TO DO A STUDY WHEN THEY WANT TO DO THE POLICE VIOLENCE
10:43:57AM WHATSOEVER, WHATSOEVER.
10:43:58AM THE MAN WAS PAID 50, 60, 70 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
10:44:04AM SOME MAN OUT OF ORLANDO.
10:44:06AM AFRICAN MAN.
10:44:07AM THE VIDEO COULDN'T EVEN GET WORKING FOR HIS PRESENTATION.
10:44:11AM AIN'T NOBODY DID NOTHING ABOUT IT.
10:44:12AM NOTHING HAPPENED.
10:44:14AM YOU ALL TREAT BLACK PEOPLE LIKE DIRT AND YOU WANT -- THE
10:44:19AM FAIR OAKS EXAMPLE VERSUS THE OTHER PARKS, SOUTH TAMPA PARK,
10:44:23AM THAT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
10:44:25AM THAT'S HOW YOU TREAT US AND WANT US TO EXPECT IT.
10:44:27AM YOU THINK AFRICAN PEOPLE, THINK AFRICAN YOUTH ACTING OUT
10:44:31AM WHEN DOING WHATSOEVER YOU MIGHT CALL IT.
10:44:33AM BUT WE HAVE NO OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS CITY.
10:44:35AM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD NOW, WESTSHORE BOULEVARD IS LOOKING MORE
10:44:39AM EXPENSIVE AND BETTER THAN BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:44:41AM SOUTH TAMPA IS LOOKING LOVELY.
10:44:45AM EAST TAMPA, THEY JUST RUNNING US UP OUT OF THERE.
10:44:49AM AND THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE AND FOR
10:44:53AM THIS CITY COUNCIL THAT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED, IS THAT
10:44:56AM CHILD SUPPORT.
10:44:59AM CHILD SUPPORT IS EUGENICS PROGRAM.
10:45:02AM IT IS EUGENICS PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE JANUARY 4,
10:45:06AM 1975, AND DEVASTATING AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:45:11AM THEY HAVE ALL KIND OF ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL
10:45:14AM SEPARATION OF POWERS OF VIOLATIONS GOING ON DOWN THERE.
10:45:18AM THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
10:45:20AM THE YOUNG MAN IN PRISON, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, HE NEED TO BE
10:45:26AM OUT OF PRISON.
10:45:27AM THIS CITY COUNCIL NEED TO MAKE A MENTION OF THAT.
10:45:30AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:31AM KELLA McCASKILL.
10:45:33AM SURGRET DOSS IS OUR LAST SPEAKER.
10:45:36AM >> KELLA McCASKILL.
10:45:38AM OFTENTIMES WHEN THE COMMUNITY COMES HERE, PARTICULARLY --
10:45:44AM WHEN WE COME HERE ADDRESSING OUR CONCERNS AND SHARE THEM.
10:45:47AM I BELIEVE IT FEELS AS IF THE DOTS ARE NOT CONNECTED FOR YOU.
10:45:51AM IT COULD BE BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:45:53AM YOU HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED WHAT WE EXPERIENCE, BEING PEOPLE OF
10:45:55AM COLOR AND/OR LIVING IN A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY.
10:45:58AM I MOVED TO EAST TAMPA SO NOW I CAN EXPERIENCE SOME OF THE
10:46:01AM THINGS, THE FROM US THAT COMES OUT WHEN YOU SEE THE PEOPLE.
10:46:04AM TODAY I CAME BECAUSE I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND
10:46:07AM HOPEFULLY CONNECT SOME OF THE DOTS TO SEE THE DISCONNECT AND
10:46:09AM HOW IT FEELS TO US.
10:46:10AM IT FEELS THAT YOU DON'T HEAR IT.
10:46:12AM IT FEELS DISRESPECTFUL.
10:46:14AM I'M HOPING TODAY THAT I CAN DRAW AN ANALOGY TO SOME OF THE
10:46:17AM DIFFERENCES THAT WE EXPERIENCE AS WE LOOK THROUGH WHAT
10:46:20AM HAPPENS IN EAST TAMPA, PARTICULARLY THEY MENTION THE PARK.
10:46:23AM I WON'T REPEAT THAT ONE.
10:46:24AM I CAME ABOUT AGENDA ITEM 45 AND 46.
10:46:28AM RECENTLY, ONE OF MY PROJECTS IN EAST TAMPA THAT I DIDN'T
10:46:31AM WANT TO DO THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT HAD A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
10:46:34AM THE CITY OF TAMPA -- THE CRA HAD BEEN WORKING WITH THE
10:46:37AM INDIVIDUAL FOR TWO YEARS.
10:46:39AM THERE WAS A HORRIBLE PROCESS.
10:46:42AM THE CONTRACTOR ON YOUR LIST FROM YOUR CCNAs, THIS WAS
10:46:47AM UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:46:48AM AND IT WAS HORRIBLE.
10:46:50AM THEY CAME TO ME AND SAID TOO MUCH IN HERE.
10:46:52AM I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
10:46:53AM NO LICENSED PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTOR WILL WANT TO WORK BEHIND
10:46:57AM THIS PROJECT.
10:46:58AM THAT HAS BEEN BABY SAT BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:47:01AM SO I INHERIT THE PROJECT BECAUSE I BELIEVED IN THE WOMEN'S
10:47:05AM PROJECT.
10:47:06AM THEN I GET A LETTER APPROVED WAS THE MOST UNPROFESSIONAL
10:47:08AM LETTER BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:47:11AM IT DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A SEAL ON IT.
10:47:12AM NOT EVEN A CITY OF TAMPA SEAL.
10:47:14AM I SPENT SIX MONTHS BECAUSE I EXPECT BETTER.
10:47:16AM THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR ME.
10:47:18AM I'M NOT GOING TO WORK ON A PIECE OF PAPER THAT HAS
10:47:20AM HANDWRITTEN NOTES FROM BRETT, CEDRIC McCRAY AND VANESSA
10:47:24AM ROSS.
10:47:25AM I WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH NICOLE TRAVIS TO GET AN APPROVABLE
10:47:29AM LEVEL, ONE ACCEPTABLE, TO PRESENT TO A LENDER OR ANY OTHER
10:47:33AM CONTRACTOR TO SAY THIS IS WHAT I NEED.
10:47:34AM LO AND BEHOLD, CITY OF TAMPA, CRA TERMINATED THE WOMAN'S
10:47:39AM FUNDS BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T DO IT IN THEIR TIME FRAME, WHAT
10:47:42AM THEY THOUGHT WAS ACCEPTABLE.
10:47:43AM THEN I LOOK AT RELATED GROUP.
10:47:45AM NOW, I KNOW FOR 45 AND 46, THINGS HAPPEN AS A DEVELOPER.
10:47:49AM I KNOW RELATED GROUP IS GOING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE
10:47:52AM SUPPOSED TO DO.
10:47:53AM I'M NOT WORRIED WHEN THEY START.
10:47:54AM I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT, SAME PATIENCE YOU HAVE FOR RELATED
10:47:59AM GROUP, I WANT YOU TO HAVE FOR REHAB IN EAST TAMPA ON 40th
10:48:02AM STREET WHERE PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR A CHANGE ON THE STREET.
10:48:05AM THESE CONTRACTORS, THINGS HAPPEN WHEN YOU GET INTO
10:48:08AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:48:08AM I WANT YOU TO HAVE THE SAME ENERGY.
10:48:10AM I'LL BE MONITORING TODAY TO SEE HOW THIS NAVIGATES THROUGH
10:48:13AM THE PROCESS.
10:48:14AM 45 AND 46.
10:48:15AM WHEN I SUBMIT THIS E-MAIL TO YOU AFTER THIS, I WANT THE SAME
10:48:18AM TYPE OF RESPONSE.
10:48:20AM THREE YEARS TO DO THIS PROJECT.
10:48:22AM THIS WOMAN SAT UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, CRA AND CITY, FOR TWO
10:48:27AM YEARS, AND BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T COMPLETE IT IN THE TIME THAT
10:48:29AM STAFF WHO HAS NO EXPERIENCE DOING THAT, FEELS ACCEPTABLE, I
10:48:33AM WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN I SEND YOU THIS E-MAIL TODAY.
10:48:36AM 45 AND 46, APPLY THE SAME ENERGY TO EAST TAMPA.
10:48:39AM THANK YOU.
10:48:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:48:41AM MR. DOSS.
10:48:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:48:43AM ROLLING RIGHT ALONG, MAKE SURE I PUT THIS IN, SHOW
10:48:48AM EVERYBODY, I AM STILL SURGRET DOSS.
10:48:54AM I'M ALSO A DISABLED AMERICAN VETERAN.
10:48:59AM USED TO BE THE OWNER OF SEVERAL HOMES.
10:49:02AM I KNOW ONE THING ABOUT TAMPA, THERE SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM
10:49:08AM HERE.
10:49:09AM I WANT TO GET TO IT.
10:49:10AM IT'S BEEN SAID TO NOT RESIST ANY MAN'S WEAKNESS TO ENCOURAGE
10:49:14AM IT.
10:49:14AM I'M HERE TO CALL IT OUT.
10:49:16AM START WITH JUDGE EMILY PEACOCK, WHO YOU CAN SEE ON THE
10:49:20AM TRANSCRIPT, PRETTY SAID, HEY, N, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ARGUE
10:49:23AM WITH WHITE MAN IN MY COURT ROOM.
10:49:26AM WHEN I STOOD UP, SHE ORDERED ME TO SIGN A SETTLEMENT
10:49:30AM AGREEMENT AGAINST MY WILL.
10:49:33AM I CAN SHOW YOU THAT AS WELL.
10:49:35AM WHEN YOU ARE BLACK, THE RULES DON'T APPLY ANY DAMN WAY.
10:49:49AM SHE WAS DEFENDING -- THEY LIKE TO FIND DOCTORS THAT WORK AT
10:49:54AM THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION TO PERFORM COMPULSORY MEDICAL
10:49:58AM EXAMINATIONS ON VETERANS, NOT DISCLOSE IT.
10:50:02AM THE ONLY REASON I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, I WENT TO A REGULARLY
10:50:05AM SCHEDULED APPOINTMENT AT THE VA, THE SAME DOCTOR WALKED IN.
10:50:10AM I DON'T KNOW IF FAMILIAR WITH TITLE 18 -- THAT IS A FEDERAL
10:50:13AM CRIME.
10:50:14AM OF COURSE, NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE
10:50:16AM THEY SEND YOU OVER HERE TO ONE OF THE JUDGES, LIKE JUDGE
10:50:19AM PAUL HUEY, PEACOCK OR MAYBE GREG HOLDER WHO KIND OF DOES
10:50:24AM WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
10:50:25AM IT'S NOT A SECRET.
10:50:26AM I KNOW THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT I WAS ACTUALLY AFFORDED THE
10:50:31AM OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE MY LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:50:34AM AND GREG HOLDER.
10:50:36AM STRANGE TO ME, I FOUND OUT THE SAME MAYOR THAT HELPED TAMPA
10:50:40AM STEAL ONE OF MY PROPERTIES BY THROWING ME OUT IN THE STREET
10:50:42AM IS RUNNING FOR MAYOR AGAIN.
10:50:44AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE DAMN PROPERTIES THIS GUY WANTS.
10:50:48AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOB BUCKHORN.
10:50:50AM BY THE WAY, I HOPE YOU'RE SHOWING THAT TO THE GOOD PEOPLE AS
10:50:54AM WELL.
10:50:54AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HIGHLIGHTED IT.
10:50:56AM MICHAEL VICTOR, STILL WORKS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, PAT
10:51:02AM KENNEDY, WE'RE ON SCHEDULE FOR A PRETTY GOOD SITUATION AT
10:51:05AM THE 11th CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS.
10:51:07AM I AIN'T GOING TO STOP BECAUSE I'M NOT WIRED THAT WAY.
10:51:10AM KIND OF STRANGE TO ME, ALL THESE GLOWING THINGS THAT PEOPLE
10:51:13AM HAVE TO SAY ABOUT VETERANS, GUESS IT DOESN'T APPLY WHEN YOU
10:51:17AM ARE A BLACK VETERAN.
10:51:18AM YOU CAN BE HONORABLY DISCHARGED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:51:21AM DOESN'T MATTER.
10:51:22AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU ALL NEXT WEEK.
10:51:24AM SHOUT-OUT TO THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:51:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:28AM THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:51:29AM WE'LL GO TO BOARD AND ADMINISTRATION APPOINTMENTS.
10:51:33AM ITEM 4.
10:51:34AM CONFIRMING APPOINTMENT BY THE MAYOR OF STEPHEN SUTTON,
10:51:47AM ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN, AS MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC
10:51:49AM PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR THREE-YEAR TERM.
10:51:53AM MOTION FROM CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
10:51:54AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:51:55AM AYE.
10:51:55AM ALL RIGHT, REQUESTS BY THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF
10:51:59AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
10:52:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI.
10:52:06AM I FILED A LETTER REQUESTING A RECONSIDERATION FOR VACATING
10:52:10AM 25-06.
10:52:12AM I PROVIDED YOU WITH A LIST OF 21 DIFFERENT FACTUAL
10:52:16AM STATEMENTS REGARDING THIS MATTER THAT WARRANT
10:52:19AM RECONSIDERATION.
10:52:20AM MR. JEFF ITALIANO WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND NOT ABLE TO
10:52:26AM ATTEND.
10:52:26AM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY HAS REMAIN UNUSED.
10:52:29AM WE HAD 20 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND UTILITY COMPANIES THAT
10:52:31AM WEIGHED IN ON THIS PETITION AND HAD NO OBJECTION.
10:52:34AM IN THAT RESPECT, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR RESERVING AN
10:52:40AM EASEMENT FOR TECO AND FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA DRAINAGE
10:52:43AM DEPARTMENT.
10:52:43AM THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THE BAY.
10:52:46AM THIS IS APPROXIMATELY A 50-FOOT BY 50-FOOT SQUARE AREA THAT
10:52:51AM PROVIDES -- WAS DEDICATED AS A ROADWAY, WHICH WAS NO LONGER
10:52:56AM NEEDED.
10:52:57AM THAT AREA ABUTS TWO PROPERTIES.
10:53:01AM ONE IN THE REAR YARD AND ONE ON THE SIDE YARD OF THE
10:53:04AM PETITIONERS.
10:53:05AM THAT PROVIDES ACCESS, WHICH POTENTIALLY CAUSES A LIABILITY
10:53:09AM ISSUE FOR THEM REGARDING ACCESS AND UTILIZATION OF THAT
10:53:14AM AREA.
10:53:14AM DRAINAGE EASEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED IN SOME RESPECTS
10:53:18AM BY THE COUNTY.
10:53:19AM CONSERVATION EASEMENT EXISTS WEST OF THIS PROPERTY.
10:53:21AM THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THE BAY OR ANY OTHER WATERWAY.
10:53:25AM THE AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 2,000 SQUARE FEET, 2,900 SQUARE
10:53:29AM FEET.
10:53:30AM FOR THE PETITION TO BE VACATED.
10:53:32AM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS HELD IN TRUST BY THE CITY.
10:53:35AM THE OWNERSHIP OF THAT, THE UNDERLYING OWNERSHIP RESTS WITH
10:53:39AM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
10:53:40AM IT'S NOT CITY OWNED.
10:53:42AM IT WAS NOT PURCHASED BY THE CITY, AND IT'S NOT OPERATED BY
10:53:45AM THE CITY, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT IT HAS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
10:53:48AM THERE ARE ENTITIES WHO HAVE ENTITLEMENTS TO THIS AREA, AND
10:53:52AM THEY ARE ONLY THREE -- THE CITY AND THE TWO ADJACENT
10:53:55AM PROPERTY OWNERS.
10:53:56AM THE VACATING RESTORES LEGITIMATE RIGHTS OF THOSE ABUTTING
10:54:00AM PROPERTY OWNERS.
10:54:01AM THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FOR THE STREETS AND UTILITIES, IT WAS
10:54:06AM NEVER DEDICATED AS A PARK OR ASSOCIATED ANY WAY AS A
10:54:10AM RECREATION AREA.
10:54:11AM THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE IN THE DEDICATION THAT WOULD BE
10:54:15AM REQUIRED FOR THE PLAT ITSELF.
10:54:16AM THE OPEN AREA IS UNSECURED AND LED US TO UNSUPERVISED
10:54:20AM ACTIVITIES, PERSONAL INJURY, PUBLIC NUISANCE ASSOCIATED WITH
10:54:24AM PERSONAL LIABILITY.
10:54:25AM LIABILITY EXTENDS POTENTIALLY TO THE CITY AS WELL AS
10:54:29AM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
10:54:30AM THE AREA UNDER PETITION IS LOCATED ALONG AN EASTERN EDGE OF
10:54:33AM THE AREA THAT IS VACANT, UNUSED AND FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES
10:54:36AM EXCEPT FOR THE DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS WHICH WERE
10:54:39AM RESERVED.
10:54:40AM ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE WILL STILL BE REQUIRED TO BE
10:54:42AM PROVIDED.
10:54:43AM THE PROPOSED AREA TO BE VACATED IS NOT A RECREATION AREA.
10:54:48AM I REPEAT, NOT.
10:54:49AM AND SHOULD NOT BE USED AS ONE.
10:54:51AM THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WERE STATED
10:54:54AM THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE USING IT FOR SOCCER FIELDS, FOR
10:54:57AM GATHERING SPOTS AND ALL OF THAT.
10:54:59AM AND THIS IS TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY
10:55:02AM OWNERS.
10:55:02AM THE PROPOSED AREA CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE USED FOR FISHING,
10:55:06AM KAYAKING, BOATING OR ANY OTHER ACCESS BECAUSE THERE IS NONE.
10:55:10AM ANYWAY, IT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PETITIONERS, AND THEY
10:55:18AM WERE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THEY BE REHEARD AND THAT
10:55:21AM THIS PETITION BE RECONSIDERED.
10:55:23AM THE PROPOSED VACATING DOES NOT INCREASE THE CHANCES OF
10:55:26AM FLOODING NOR DOES IT OBSTRUCT STORMWATER IN ANY WAY.
10:55:29AM IT MUST REMAIN WITHOUT STRUCTURES.
10:55:31AM IT HAS TO REMAIN GREEN.
10:55:34AM I SENT THAT TO YOU VIA E-MAIL.
10:55:36AM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST RECONSIDERATION.
10:55:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PREVAILING SIDE OF THE
10:55:41AM DENIAL WISH TO RECONSIDER?
10:55:43AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:55:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, AS I SPOKE DURING THIS PUBLIC
10:55:46AM HEARING, THIS WAS ONE REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE IT
10:55:51AM PULLED ME IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
10:55:52AM I'VE SUBSEQUENTLY SPOKEN TO ONE OF THE OTHER ADJACENT
10:55:55AM PROPERTY OWNER WHO WAS IN EUROPE AT THE TIME.
10:55:58AM BASED ON SOME OTHER INFORMATION THAT I'VE RECEIVED, I WOULD
10:56:00AM MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THIS ITEM.
10:56:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:56:03AM YOU WERE ON THE SUPPORTIVE SIDE.
10:56:07AM YOU'RE GOOD.
10:56:08AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH THE SECOND.
10:56:09AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:56:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:56:18AM >> HENDERSON?
10:56:18AM VIERA?
10:56:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:56:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:56:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:56:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
10:56:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:56:27AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH HENDERSON BEING ABSENT AT
10:56:29AM VOTE.
10:56:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:31AM MR. SHELBY, DO WE SCHEDULE THIS FOR THE FUTURE?
10:56:35AM BECAUSE I VOTED YES, DOESN'T MEAN I WILL SUPPORT IT OR NOT
10:56:40AM SUPPORT IT.
10:56:41AM OUT OF COURTESY, BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU
10:56:43AM KNOW, SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
10:56:46AM DOESN'T MEAN I CHANGED MY VOTE OR WHATEVER, BUT SO WE CAN
10:56:49AM HAVE A FURTHER CONVERSATION.
10:56:50AM MR. SHELBY.
10:56:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I COMMUNICATED WITH MR. WIGGINTON, WHO IS
10:56:55AM HERE.
10:56:56AM NOW THAT YOU'VE ACTUALLY PASSED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, IT
10:57:00AM IS NOW BACK ON THE FLOOR, EXCEPT IT REQUIRES A PUBLIC
10:57:03AM HEARING.
10:57:04AM WHICH MEANS, THEREFORE, COUNCIL SHOULD SET A PUBLIC HEARING
10:57:07AM AND DIRECT THE CLERK OR THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE THE
10:57:10AM PROPER NOTICE FOR THE HEARING, BUT WE NEED, I AM TOLD BY MR.
10:57:13AM WIGGINTON, TWO MONTHS.
10:57:14AM IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, MR. MICHELINI?
10:57:18AM IT HAS TO BE A NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING IS THAT CORRECT, MR.
10:57:22AM WIGGINTON?
10:57:23AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:57:24AM IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR CALENDAR LOOKS LIKE.
10:57:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 17 IS WHEN THE MAYOR PRESENTS HER
10:57:28AM BUDGET.
10:57:29AM THEN WE LIMITED STAFF REPORTS.
10:57:31AM THAT IS GOING TO BE A BUSY DAY.
10:57:32AM I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND REQUESTING JULY 17.
10:57:37AM SO AFTER THE FACT.
10:57:38AM AUGUST 7 IS ANOTHER AVAILABLE DATE.
10:57:45AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
10:57:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE
10:57:49AM RECONSIDERATION ON AUGUST 7, 2025.
10:57:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE COULD ASK MR. WIGGINTON.
10:57:59AM WITH REGARD TO A VACATING, USUALLY 10:00?
10:58:03AM >> 10 A.M.
10:58:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION SO CLEAR, NOT NECESSARILY FOR
10:58:07AM RECONSIDERATION, IT IS THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE
10:58:10AM RECONSIDERATION.
10:58:11AM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, MR. MICHELINI, DO YOU HAVE THAT FILE
10:58:15AM NUMBER OR MR. WIGGINTON?
10:58:16AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'LL TELL YOU IN A SECOND.
10:58:18AM YES, I HAVE IT.
10:58:22AM >>THE CLERK: VAC-25-06.
10:58:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
10:58:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR
10:58:30AM VAC-25-06 ON AUGUST 7, 2025, AT 10:30 A.M. AT 315 EAST
10:58:41AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
10:58:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:58:47AM CLENDENIN.
10:58:48AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:58:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:58:50AM AYE.
10:58:50AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:58:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:58:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NAYS ARE, IF YOU COULD READ INTO THE
10:58:55AM RECORD, CARLSON AND HURTAK.
10:58:57AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH HENDERSON ABSENT AT VOTE,
10:58:59AM CARLSON AND HURTAK VOTING NO.
10:59:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:02AM WE'LL SEE YOU AUGUST 7.
10:59:03AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:59:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:59:05AM CONSENT AGENDA, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, ITEMS 5-15.
10:59:10AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:59:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE THE AFOREMENTIONED ITEMS.
10:59:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:59:17AM SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
10:59:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:59:18AM AYE.
10:59:19AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, VICE-CHAIR FOR 16 THROUGH 21.
10:59:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 16 THROUGH 21.
10:59:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM HURTAK.
10:59:28AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
10:59:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:59:29AM AYE.
10:59:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I WILL MOVE ITEMS 22 THROUGH 34.
10:59:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE NOT PULLING 35?
10:59:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 35 IS A DIFFERENT COMMITTEE.
10:59:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
10:59:42AM HURTAK.
10:59:42AM SECOND FROM VIERA.
10:59:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:59:44AM AYE.
10:59:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: I PULLED 35.
10:59:48AM >> CITY COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON 35, THE CLERK
10:59:51AM HAS A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
10:59:52AM THERE WAS ONE LAW FIRM THAT WAS ON THE LIST THAT SHOULD HAVE
10:59:55AM BEEN REMOVED.
10:59:56AM IF YOU APPROVE 35, WHEN YOU TAKE UP 35, YOU DO THE
11:00:01AM SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION THAT THE CLERK HAS ON FILE.
11:00:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:06AM WE'LL MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE SHOULD IT BE MOVED.
11:00:08AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON HAS MADE A MOTION TO PULL 35 FOR
11:00:12AM DISCUSSION.
11:00:15AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:00:16AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:00:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO THINGS.
11:00:21AM THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, I RECUSED MYSELF BECAUSE MY FIRM
11:00:27AM WORKS WITH ONE OF THE LAW FIRMS.
11:00:30AM AFTERWARDS I HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT INDICATED I DIDN'T HAVE
11:00:32AM TO RECUSE MYSELF.
11:00:34AM THERE'S NOTHING THAT INURES TO MY PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS.
11:00:38AM MARTY, COULD YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT PUBLICLY, PLEASE?
11:00:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I RECALL THE CONVERSATION.
11:00:44AM I BELIEVE THAT ON THE BASIS OF OUR CONVERSATION AT THE TIME,
11:00:52AM I RECALL THAT IT WAS MY OPINION THAT -- OR RISES TO THE
11:00:59AM LEVEL OF A FINANCIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
11:01:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY IS,
11:01:05AM I WANT TO VOTE NO FOR THIS BECAUSE AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST
11:01:08AM WEEK WITH CHARTER AMENDMENTS, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT THAT
11:01:12AM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT,
11:01:14AM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY THAT ANYWHERE IN THE CHARTER.
11:01:17AM THE POWER REALLY RESTS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:01:19AM WHAT THIS DOES, IT ALLOWS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO HIRE LAW
11:01:23AM FIRMS WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL.
11:01:24AM I THINK A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS TOO MUCH.
11:01:26AM RAISING THAT I THINK IS WAY TOO MUCH.
11:01:28AM I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE PUBLIC SCRUTINY,
11:01:31AM TRANSPARENCY, AND THAT THEY NEED TO COME TO US.
11:01:33AM THE OTHER THING IS THAT TYPICALLY THE REASON WHY A GOVERNING
11:01:37AM AGENCY WOULD DO THIS IS TO TRY TO CONFLICT OUT ALL THESE
11:01:40AM FIRMS.
11:01:41AM IF THEY DON'T ACTUALLY DO WORK FOR THE CITY, I THINK BY BAR
11:01:44AM RULES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO CONFLICT THEMSELVES OUT.
11:01:47AM I THINK IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO DO IT THAT WAY.
11:01:50AM KEEPING WHAT IT WAS BEFORE IS ENOUGH.
11:01:54AM I'LL VOTE NO.
11:01:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:01:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FUNNY, BOTH ITEMS YOU BROUGHT UP IS
11:01:59AM EXACTLY THE REASON WHY I PULLED IT.
11:02:00AM ENDED UP HAVING A SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATION.
11:02:02AM I WAS ABOUT CONFLICTING OUT.
11:02:05AM THAT SEEMS ODD, BINDING EVERY LAW FIRM IN TOWN.
11:02:09AM I GUESS THAT IS NOT A FACTOR HERE.
11:02:11AM THEY GAVE AN EXPLANATION THAT REALLY SATISFIED MY POINTS ON
11:02:16AM THAT.
11:02:16AM BECAUSE THIS IS A FINITE AMOUNT OF $200,000 FOR THE ENTIRE
11:02:25AM FISCAL YEAR --
11:02:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S 200,000 FOR EACH FIRM.
11:02:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE NOT -- $5 MILLION CONTRACTS.
11:02:35AM I FELT LIKE IT WAS DE MINIMIS.
11:02:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: HIRE ALL OF THEM, MULTIPLY ALL THE FIRMS BY
11:02:41AM 200,000, IT IS A BIG NUMBER.
11:02:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.
11:02:45AM I THINK WHAT I WAS TOLD BY LEGAL IS MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN
11:02:47AM THE CONTRACT, IT IS A CONTRACT -- THEY DON'T ACTUALLY USE
11:02:50AM THESE FOLKS.
11:02:51AM THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESS THEY ARE GIVEN.
11:02:53AM THEY PUT OUT AN RFP TO SOLICIT -- MORRIS IS HERE.
11:02:58AM CAN HE SPEAK TO IT.
11:03:02AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WHILE IT ALLOWS UP TO $200,000 EACH FISCAL
11:03:06AM YEAR, IT'S SUBJECT TO BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS.
11:03:11AM JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE LEGAL
11:03:12AM DEPARTMENT BUDGET TO HIRE OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL IS LESS THAN
11:03:19AM $250,000.
11:03:20AM IF WE NEED TO COME -- IF WE NEED TO HIRE A LAW FIRM FOR A
11:03:24AM LARGE MATTER, WE TYPICALLY HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU OR HAVE A
11:03:27AM BUDGET RESOLUTION AT SOME POINT IN TIME THAT ALLOCATES MONEY
11:03:32AM FOR THAT REPRESENTATION.
11:03:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, I HAD AN ORDER.
11:03:36AM MIRANDA, VIERA, HURTAK.
11:03:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT HE SAID.
11:03:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
11:03:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE SAID TOTAL BUDGET IS 250,000.
11:03:46AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED IN OUR
11:03:49AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL, CORRECT.
11:03:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT --
11:03:55AM >> OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE MONEY ALLOCATED FOR SPECIFIC
11:03:58AM MATTERS, WHICH MONEY CAN BE ALLOCATED FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL IF
11:04:01AM WE NEED THEM.
11:04:02AM THAT'S ANOTHER AVENUE, BUT, AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN
11:04:05AM THEIR BUDGET THAT YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
11:04:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S NOT LIKE A $5 MILLION --
11:04:11AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO, IT'S NOT.
11:04:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD RECUSE MYSELF OR
11:04:15AM NOT.
11:04:16AM I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO WORKS FOR ONE OF THE FIRMS AND
11:04:18AM HAVE MYSELF HIRED A FIRM ON THIS LIST NOT TOO LONG AGO TO DO
11:04:22AM WORK FOR ME.
11:04:23AM IF I GO TO HEAVEN OR HELL, ONE OF THE TWO AND DO TIME THAT
11:04:29AM EVERYTHING IS DONE THE WAY I WANT IT.
11:04:31AM THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.
11:04:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:04:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT THAT I SAY I'M LEAVING.
11:04:38AM DOCTORS TOLD ME I'LL LIVE TO 102.
11:04:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS WHETHER --
11:04:48AM MAYBE WE CAN HOLD THIS ITEM JUST SO I CAN TALK TO MAKE SURE
11:04:52AM IT'S REMOTE AND SPECULATIVE, THEN YOU CAN VOTE.
11:04:54AM I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT YOU TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU
11:04:56AM HAVE A RELATIVE WORKING FOR A LAW FIRM AND YOU VOTE AND
11:04:59AM SOMEBODY ALLEGES A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
11:05:01AM YOU CAN EITHER ABSTAIN IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION OR WE CAN
11:05:05AM HOLD IT FOR A WHILE AND I'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT
11:05:08AM LEAST MAKE INQUIRIES SO I CAN PROTECT YOU.
11:05:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
11:05:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIERA AND BACK TO HURTAK.
11:05:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY POINT OF ORDER, LET'S MOVE THIS
11:05:18AM TO FIRST OF STAFF REPORTS.
11:05:19AM THAT WAY EVERYBODY CAN --
11:05:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO THAT.
11:05:23AM WE'LL MOVE ITEM 35 TO COME UP AFTER LUNCH.
11:05:29AM DO WE HAVE AN ITEM.
11:05:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
11:05:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS WHEN WE COME
11:05:39AM BACK.
11:05:41AM ITEMS 36 THROUGH 37.
11:05:43AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA MAKES A MOTION.
11:05:46AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:05:47AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:05:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:05:50AM AYE.
11:05:51AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, 38 THROUGH 52, BUT SOME ITEMS THAT
11:05:54AM YOU WANTED.
11:05:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO PULL 45 AND 46, PLEASE.
11:06:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 38 THROUGH 52, MINUS 45 AND 46.
11:06:05AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:06:07AM SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
11:06:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:06:08AM AYE.
11:06:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO DISCUSS 45 AND 46.
11:06:12AM CAN WE MOVE 45 AND 46 TO THE SECOND AND THIRD ITEM AFTER
11:06:16AM LUNCH?
11:06:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
11:06:21AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:06:22AM >> SECOND.
11:06:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
11:06:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAFF CLARIFICATION, WHEN THEY COME BACK
11:06:25AM PREPARED TO SPEAK, MY INTENTION IS TO ASK ABOUT THE
11:06:27AM COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.
11:06:30AM WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE COUNTY CONSTRUCTION ACROSS THE
11:06:33AM STREET AND TALKED OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO
11:06:36AM FOR THE YELLOW JACKETS.
11:06:38AM THANK YOU.
11:06:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:06:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:06:42AM AYE.
11:06:42AM THAT'S TO MOVE THOSE ITEMS AFTER 35.
11:06:44AM 35, 45, 46 AFTER LUNCH AND FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
11:06:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS WHICH
11:06:51AM MEANS YOUR 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD BEFORE THOSE
11:06:54AM ITEMS?
11:06:55AM THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD AFTER LUNCH.
11:07:00AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:07:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:07:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WENT THROUGH 52, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:07:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEMS 53 THROUGH 56.
11:07:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CLENDENIN.
11:07:15AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
11:07:16AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:07:17AM AYE.
11:07:17AM CAN WE GET A MOTION TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 57.
11:07:22AM MOTION TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 57 FOR JUNE 12, 2025 AT
11:07:27AM 5:01 P.M. AND JULY 24, 2025 AT 5:01 P.M., CITY COUNCIL
11:07:32AM CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
11:07:35AM 33602.
11:07:37AM MOTION AND SECOND.
11:07:38AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:07:39AM SECOND WAS CLENDENIN.
11:07:40AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. AND 10:30 PUBLIC
11:07:45AM HEARINGS.
11:07:46AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:07:47AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:07:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:07:49AM AYE.
11:07:50AM ALL RIGHT.
11:07:52AM I HAVE ONE PERSON REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 63.
11:07:58AM THE FIRST FEW ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
11:08:02AM IF YOU SPEAK ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, PLEASE STAND AND
11:08:06AM RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
11:08:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: I NEED TO LEAVE HERE AT ABOUT 5:30.
11:08:27AM MY SON HAS A FINAL PLAY THIS EVENING AT 6:30 IN TAMPA PALMS.
11:08:31AM IT TAKES ABOUT EIGHT HOURS TO GET THERE.
11:08:37AM FYI FOR COUNCIL.
11:08:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 58 IS THE FIRST ONE.
11:08:45AM IS THERE CITY STAFF?
11:08:47AM THERE'S MR. COLINS.
11:08:50AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:08:52AM >> GOOD MORNING, DANNY COLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
11:08:55AM STAFF.
11:08:56AM I WAS SWORN IN.
11:08:57AM ITEM 58, FILE TA/CPA 24-19.
11:09:01AM ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND
11:09:04AM USE ELEMENT AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
11:09:07AM AT 706 SOUTH MOODY AVENUE.
11:09:10AM THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM
11:09:12AM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
11:09:15AM THIS WAS APPROVED AT YOUR FIRST READING ON APRIL 24 AND IT
11:09:18AM IS BACK TO YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
11:09:21AM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:09:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:09:24AM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 58?
11:09:27AM MR. HUDSON, COME ON UP.
11:09:33AM >> TYLER HUDSON.
11:09:34AM NOTHING TO ADD.
11:09:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:36AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 58?
11:09:38AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:09:40AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:09:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:09:42AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:09:43AM ITEM 58, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT?
11:09:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NUMBER 58, TA/CPA 24-19, ORDINANCE
11:09:51AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
11:09:54AM AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE
11:09:56AM ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 706
11:10:00AM SOUTH MOODY AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10, TO COMMUNITY
11:10:04AM MIXED USE-35, CMU-35, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES
11:10:08AM IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
11:10:10AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:10:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL
11:10:12AM MEMBER VIERA.
11:10:13AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:10:18AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:10:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:26AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:10:26AM ITEM NUMBER 59.
11:10:32AM >> DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
11:10:34AM I WAS SWORN IN.
11:10:35AM ITEM 59, TA/CPA 24-20.
11:10:39AM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
11:10:43AM SPECIFICALLY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY
11:10:45AM LOCATED AT 701 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
11:10:48AM THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM
11:10:51AM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
11:10:53AM THIS WAS APPROVED AT FIRST READING ON APRIL 24 AND BACK FOR
11:10:58AM A SECOND READING.
11:11:00AM THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
11:11:02AM AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ALSO THE APPLICANT ON THIS
11:11:03AM ONE AS WELL.
11:11:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS?
11:11:06AM NO.
11:11:07AM ANYBODY HERE FOR ITEM 59?
11:11:11AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON 59?
11:11:14AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM CLENDENIN, SECOND BY MIRANDA.
11:11:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:11:17AM AYE.
11:11:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
11:11:28AM AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
11:11:31AM PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
11:11:34AM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 701 SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE, FROM
11:11:37AM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35, CMU-35, TO
11:11:43AM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU 35, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
11:11:46AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
11:11:49AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:11:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:11:52AM CLENDENIN.
11:11:52AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:11:59AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:12:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:02AM ITEM 60.
11:12:06AM YES, SIR.
11:12:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:12:11AM CAN YOU HEAR ME.
11:12:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:12:12AM GO AHEAD.
11:12:13AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:12:17AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
11:12:19AM COORDINATION.
11:12:19AM I'VE BEEN SWORN.
11:12:20AM ITEM 60 IS AB 2-24-33 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3003 WEST
11:12:25AM CYPRESS STREET.
11:12:27AM THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE
11:12:27AM CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, FOR CONSUMPTION ON
11:12:31AM PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
11:12:34AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
11:12:37AM FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
11:12:38AM THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
11:12:39AM PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED.
11:12:41AM A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
11:12:43AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:12:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:12:47AM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
11:12:51AM WE DID ADD THE COVERED BIKE THAT YOU REQUESTED AS PART OF
11:12:54AM OUR SITE PLAN AMENDMENTS.
11:12:57AM WE THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THE LEGACY OF ALESSI BAKERY.
11:13:03AM IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ICON IN TAMPA AND YOU MADE A GREAT
11:13:07AM PART OF THAT HAPPEN.
11:13:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:09AM MY WIFE AND I WERE LOOKING AT OUR WEDDING PICTURES THE OTHER
11:13:12AM NIGHT.
11:13:13AM SHE REMINDED ME THAT OUR WEDDING CAKE WAS FROM ALESSI BAKERY
11:13:17AM AND HOW DELICIOUS IT WAS.
11:13:19AM FORGOT TO MENTION IT AT THE FIRST HEARING.
11:13:21AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 60?
11:13:24AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:13:29AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
11:13:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:13:31AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:13:31AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, ITEM 60.
11:13:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE FILE AB 2-24-33, AN ORDINANCE BEING
11:13:39AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
11:13:41AM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
11:13:45AM SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE
11:13:49AM SALES/OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE
11:13:54AM OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND
11:13:57AM LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND
11:14:01AM LOCATED AT 3003 WEST CYPRESS STREET, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
11:14:06AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
11:14:10AM PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN
11:14:13AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:14:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:14:15AM HENDERSON.
11:14:15AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:14:16AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:14:23AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:14:25AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
11:14:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:14:28AM ITEM NUMBER 61.
11:14:30AM GO AHEAD, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:14:37AM >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL AND CHAIRMAN.
11:14:40AM LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:14:42AM ITEM 61 IS AB 2-25-01 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 608 NORTH
11:14:47AM WILLOW AVENUE.
11:14:48AM REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE
11:14:51AM CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, FOR CONSUMPTION ON
11:14:53AM PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
11:14:57AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
11:14:59AM FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
11:15:01AM THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
11:15:02AM THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED
11:15:05AM TO THE CLERK.
11:15:05AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:15:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:15:08AM I SEE NONE.
11:15:10AM HELLO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:15:11AM >> CHRISTOPHER WALTERS.
11:15:12AM I'M THE APPLICANT.
11:15:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO SPEAK AS WELL?
11:15:15AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:15:16AM >> SHE IS MY WIFE.
11:15:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:15:20AM >> I JUST WANTED TO REPLY BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:15:27AM DID I SAY THAT RIGHT?
11:15:29AM I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR BIKE QUESTION LAST TIME WITH
11:15:36AM THE DEDICATED BIKE RACKS.
11:15:39AM I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I DID FOLLOW UP WITH LEADERSHIP AT
11:15:42AM NORTH HYDE PARK.
11:15:43AM UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW, AS IT STATES CURRENTLY, THEY ONLY
11:15:47AM HAVE BIKE RACKS FOR THE RESIDENTS AT JADE AT NORTH HYDE
11:15:52AM PARK.
11:15:53AM I DID SAY WE EXPRESSED INTEREST FOR DEDICATED BIKE RACKS FOR
11:15:57AM THE BIKERS THAT DO VISIT OUR FACILITY BECAUSE, AGAIN, LIKE I
11:16:01AM SAID LAST TIME, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT JUST PARK IT
11:16:05AM ON OUR PATIO OR ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO DEDICATED
11:16:09AM BIKE LANES.
11:16:10AM NOW THAT YOU MENTION THAT, I DO SEE A LOT OF UPS TRUCKS AND
11:16:15AM FEDEX TRUCKS THAT DRIVE RIGHT DOWN THAT BIKE LANE.
11:16:19AM I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO
11:16:22AM CONNECT ALL THE WAY TO YBOR.
11:16:24AM UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE ARE NOT REALLY USING IT RIGHT.
11:16:30AM I DID SEE THAT.
11:16:31AM DID I EXPRESS INTEREST WITH THE LEADERSHIP THERE.
11:16:34AM THAT'S PROBABLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS PLACE DEDICATED
11:16:38AM BIKE RACKS.
11:16:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
11:16:39AM I APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUING TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT.
11:16:41AM I BELIEVE SOMEONE -- I DON'T KNOW IF MS. JOHNSON -- I'M
11:16:47AM GOING TO ASK MS. SCHARFE TO MEET WITH YOU TO GIVE YOU A
11:16:55AM NUMBER TO CALL WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY PARKING IN THE BIKE
11:16:58AM LANE SO THEY CAN GET A TICKET.
11:17:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
11:17:04AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:17:05AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 61?
11:17:08AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:17:10AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:17:11AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:17:12AM AYE.
11:17:13AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, I THINK IT'S YOU.
11:17:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE FILE AB 2-25-01, AN ORDINANCE BEING
11:17:19AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
11:17:22AM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
11:17:26AM SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES, PACKAGE
11:17:29AM SALES/OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE
11:17:33AM OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND
11:17:36AM LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THE CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
11:17:39AM LOCATED AT 608 NORTH WILLOW AVENUE, UNIT A100, FIRST FLOOR
11:17:45AM ONLY AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING
11:17:48AM THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE
11:17:51AM REPEALED, REPEALING AB 1-24-17, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:17:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CLENDENIN.
11:17:57AM SECOND FROM VIERA.
11:17:58AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:18:04AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:18:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:18:08AM YES, MA'AM.
11:18:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY AIDE IS OUT THERE SO SHE CAN REACH YOU AND
11:18:11AM LET YOU KNOW.
11:18:13AM THANK YOU.
11:18:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 62.
11:18:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:18:20AM FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE WITH DEVELOPMENT
11:18:22AM COORDINATION.
11:18:23AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
11:18:25AM ITEM NUMBER 62 IS REZ-25-06.
11:18:28AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 118
11:18:31AM BOSPHOROUS AVENUE.
11:18:32AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 60
11:18:36AM TO RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY 50.
11:18:38AM THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
11:18:40AM THERE'S NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
11:18:43AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:18:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:18:46AM NO.
11:18:47AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 62?
11:18:49AM YES, SIR.
11:18:50AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:18:51AM >> ALEX RIOS.
11:18:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR?
11:18:55AM >> NO, SIR.
11:18:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:18:55AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 62?
11:18:58AM COME ON UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:19:01AM >> PATRICK MURPHY.
11:19:02AM I'M HERE FOR TWO REASONS ON THIS PROJECT.
11:19:06AM FIRST, ON BEHALF OF THE DAVIS ISLAND CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
11:19:10AM THE DAVIS ISLAND CIVIC ASSOCIATION SUBMITTED A LETTER OF
11:19:13AM OPPOSITION OPPOSING THE PROJECT OR OPPOSING THE APPROVAL AT
11:19:17AM SECOND READING BASED ON THE LACK OF NEARBY RS 50 HOUSING,
11:19:22AM CITING CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT FLOODING, INCREASED
11:19:24AM DENSITY IN AN ALREADY DENSE AREA, THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC
11:19:27AM CONGESTION AND ISSUES THAT THERE MAY BE SETTING A PRECEDENT,
11:19:32AM ESPECIALLY GIVEN NEXT TO RS 75 ZONING.
11:19:37AM THAT'S ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION.
11:19:41AM AS MYSELF, I SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
11:19:44AM I THINK IT'S GREAT.
11:19:44AM IT'S NEAR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, STAFF FOUND IS CONSISTENT ON
11:19:48AM ALMOST EVERY FACTOR.
11:19:49AM THE PROPOSED LOTS ARE KIND OF IN BETWEEN THE 50 AND 60 ZONE.
11:19:53AM 55 FEET EACH.
11:19:55AM I THINK HAVING NEW HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE UP TO THE
11:19:59AM CODE AND A LITTLE MORE RESILIENT IN THE FUTURE I THINK IS
11:20:02AM GOOD FOR THE ISLAND AS A WHOLE.
11:20:04AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
11:20:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:20:07AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:20:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'VE HAD DISCUSSION IN THE PAST ABOUT THIS
11:20:13AM TYPE OF REZONING, ESPECIALLY DAVIS ISLAND IS SUCH A
11:20:18AM DISTINCTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:20:19AM IT'S ONE OF OUR LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:20:22AM I GET IT AND I GET SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS' CONCERN, BUT I
11:20:25AM THINK YOU NAILED IT.
11:20:27AM ONE, THE PROXIMITY TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA AND TO THE OTHER
11:20:30AM SIMILARLY ZONED PROPERTIES.
11:20:32AM THAT PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT IS SO LINEAR IN THAT AREA.
11:20:37AM LIKE WHEN STAFF TRIED TO FIND PARCELS, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE
11:20:41AM DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE TOUGH TO SAY THIS IS EQUAL TO THAT
11:20:45AM BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING ELSE SO MUCH CLOSER.
11:20:49AM I WANT THE FOLKS ON DAVIS ISLANDS AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS --
11:20:56AM [INDISCERNIBLE]
11:20:56AM MY INTEREST IS IN PRESERVING THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:20:59AM WE ALSO HAVE TO BE REALISTIC.
11:21:00AM WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE FLOODING.
11:21:04AM BUILD THE HOUSING STOCKS TO CURRENT STANDARDS SO THAT WE CAN
11:21:07AM AVOID THE TYPE OF DEVASTATION WE'VE SEEN.
11:21:11AM THAT'S WHY I WILL VOTE IN FAVOR.
11:21:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:14AM ANYBODY ELSE?
11:21:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGREE.
11:21:18AM MY VOTE WILL STAY THE SAME.
11:21:20AM I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS BY MR. MURPHY WITH THE POINTS OF
11:21:26AM DISTINCTION THAT A LAWYER WOULD APPRECIATE.
11:21:28AM THANK YOU.
11:21:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:29AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:21:31AM CLENDENIN, SECOND BY MIRANDA.
11:21:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:21:34AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU MIND READING THIS?
11:21:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 62, FILE REZ-25-06, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
11:21:41AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
11:21:44AM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 118 BOSPHOROUS AVENUE IN
11:21:47AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
11:21:50AM IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60,
11:21:54AM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL,
11:21:57AM SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:22:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL
11:22:02AM MEMBER VIERA.
11:22:02AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:22:10AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:22:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:17AM ITEM NUMBER 63.
11:22:20AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:22:25AM ITEM NUMBER 63 IS REZ-25-14.
11:22:29AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8414
11:22:34AM NORTH 18th STREET.
11:22:35AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50
11:22:38AM TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
11:22:40AM DETACHED USES.
11:22:42AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
11:22:45AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
11:22:47AM I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
11:22:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:22:50AM I SEE NONE.
11:22:51AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 63?
11:22:54AM MR. MANSOUR, DID YOU GET SWORN IN?
11:22:58AM >> YES, SIR.
11:22:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:23:00AM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
11:23:03AM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE GOING
11:23:05AM TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:23:07AM >> I DO.
11:23:08AM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:23:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:12AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:23:13AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:23:16AM >> MANSOUR.
11:23:18AM I AM THE APPLICANT.
11:23:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR?
11:23:21AM >> NO.
11:23:22AM I WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF FROM THE ZONING DEPARTMENT
11:23:25AM FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM AND HARD WORK ON THIS PROJECT AND
11:23:28AM ON OTHER PROJECTS.
11:23:29AM THANK YOU.
11:23:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:30AM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
11:23:33AM ITEM?
11:23:33AM ITEM 63?
11:23:34AM I SEE NO ONE.
11:23:35AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:23:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:23:38AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:23:39AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 63?
11:23:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEM 63, FILE REZ-25-14, ORDINANCE
11:23:46AM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
11:23:48AM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 8414
11:23:51AM NORTH 18th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
11:23:54AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
11:23:56AM CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD,
11:23:59AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED,
11:24:02AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:24:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL
11:24:04AM MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:24:05AM RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:24:16AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:24:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:19AM ITEM NUMBER 64 IS A 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING WHICH WE
11:24:24AM OPENED REGARDING SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO A DEVELOPMENT
11:24:27AM AGREEMENT.
11:24:28AM MS. JOHNS, YES, MA'AM.
11:24:29AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:24:30AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:24:32AM THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
11:24:34AM AGREEMENT FOR THE 35th STREET MULTIFAMILY PROJECT TO
11:24:36AM REMIND YOU ALL, THIS IS A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT UNDER HOUSE
11:24:39AM BILL 1339, WHICH ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL TO BE BUILT IN
11:24:46AM INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTIES, PROVIDING AT LEAST
11:24:49AM 10% OF THE UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE, WHICH
11:24:52AM IS 120% AMI AND BELOW.
11:24:54AM AT THE FIRST HEARING, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT THE DEVELOPER
11:24:57AM ADD A NOTE TO THE SITE PLAN ABOUT COVERED, SECURED BICYCLE
11:25:02AM PARKING.
11:25:03AM THOSE NOTES HAVE BEEN ADDED.
11:25:06AM THOSE NOTES HAVE BEEN ADDED HERE AND HERE.
11:25:17AM IF APPROVED, THIS SITE PLAN WILL BE SUBSTITUTED INTO THE
11:25:21AM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE.
11:25:24AM SINCE THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, YOU HAVE A
11:25:27AM RESOLUTION TO ACT ON TODAY, AND I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO
11:25:30AM THE DEVELOPER, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
11:25:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:25:35AM MR. BOWEN.
11:25:41AM >> BOWEN ARNOLD FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:25:44AM I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
11:25:45AM WE HAVE THE ARCHITECT HERE, TIM CLEMONS.
11:25:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE COVERED
11:25:51AM PARKING, SIR?
11:25:52AM >> WE MADE TWO ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SITE PLAN SINCE THE FIRST
11:25:58AM READING.
11:25:59AM WE'VE INDICATED THE LOCATION OF COVERED ACCESSIBLE PARKING
11:26:03AM FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
11:26:05AM 2700 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL SPACE UNDER THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:26:08AM ZONING ORDINANCE, IT REQUIRES THREE BICYCLE PARKING SPACES.
11:26:11AM WE'VE PROVIDED A COVER FOR FOUR BICYCLE PARKING SPACES.
11:26:15AM THEN WE'VE ALSO ADDED A NOTE SHOWING THE COVERED SECURED
11:26:19AM RESIDENT BICYCLE PARKING WITHIN THE PARKING GARAGE.
11:26:22AM AGAIN, ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA ZONING CODE, REQUIRED
11:26:26AM TO HAVE 20 BICYCLE PARKING SPACES FOR THE PROJECT.
11:26:29AM WE'VE GOT A SPACE THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO HANDLE 30 BICYCLE
11:26:33AM PARKING SPACES WITHIN THE PARKING GARAGE.
11:26:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:26:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:26:38AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CHANGES.
11:26:40AM ONE PROJECT AT A TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS CITY SUPER
11:26:44AM BIKE FRIENDLY.
11:26:45AM REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
11:26:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:26:46AM ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
11:26:48AM >> NO.
11:26:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM
11:26:50AM 64?
11:26:51AM YES, MA'AM.
11:26:52AM COME ON UP.
11:26:53AM ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON 64?
11:26:55AM YOU ARE THE SPEAKER.
11:26:56AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:26:58AM >> MELISSA MILLER.
11:26:59AM I'M A RESIDENT, LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE
11:27:03AM PROJECT.
11:27:03AM MAINLY OUR CONCERN, MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:27:08AM AND MINE ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S 50 YARDS FROM MY HOUSE IS
11:27:13AM REGARDING THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE PROPERTY.
11:27:17AM 12th STREET, WHICH IS THE STREET I LIVE ON IS A VERY
11:27:19AM QUIET, VERY NARROW STREET, AND WE MAYBE GET 30 CARS A DAY
11:27:24AM DRIVING DOWN THAT STREET.
11:27:25AM AND WITH PUTTING IN 200 UNITS, THAT'S GOING TO EASILY CHANGE
11:27:31AM TO 800 CARS A DAY.
11:27:33AM I HAVE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN WHERE THEY HAD, IF YOU
11:27:41AM CAN SEE HERE, THEY HAD THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE PARKING
11:27:44AM STRUCTURE OFF OF 34th STREET WHICH IS A FOUR-LANE STREET.
11:27:48AM AND THEN THEY CHANGED IT.
11:27:49AM INSTEAD, THEY TOOK IT AWAY FROM 34th AND NOW ADDED IT TO
11:27:57AM 12th AND 35th, WHICH IS -- MY HOUSE IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE.
11:28:02AM THIS IS A VERY SMALL STREET.
11:28:04AM I HAVE PICTURES OF IT.
11:28:05AM I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A REASON THEY CHANGED IT, AND IT
11:28:10AM WAS ABOUT MAYBE UTILITY TRUCKS OR FIRE TRUCKS OR EMERGENCY
11:28:13AM TRUCKS BEING ABLE TO DO A THREE-POINT TURN AND OFF OF 34th
11:28:17AM THERE WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM FOR THAT.
11:28:19AM I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:28:20AM WHAT WE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PROPOSING IS MAYBE PUT THE
11:28:25AM ENTRANCE AND EXIT BACK ON 34th JUST FOR THE PARKING
11:28:29AM STRUCTURE.
11:28:29AM THAT MEANS ALL OF THE TENANTS THAT NEED ACCESS TO THE
11:28:32AM PARKING STRUCTURE WOULD EXIT AND ENTER THROUGH 34th AND
11:28:36AM THEN THE UTILITY TRUCKS, EMERGENCY VEHICLES, AND EVEN THE
11:28:41AM GUESTS FOR THE GUEST PARKING, THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE EAST
11:28:46AM SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
11:28:47AM THEY CAN ENTER THROUGH 34th -- I'M SORRY, THROUGH 12th
11:28:50AM AND 35th.
11:28:51AM THAT WOULD BE A LOT LESS TRAFFIC COMING DOWN 12th STREET.
11:28:55AM THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC WOULD STAY ON 34th, WHICH
11:28:58AM AGAIN IS A FOUR-LANE STREET.
11:29:01AM I THINK IT'S MORE EQUIPPED FOR THAT.
11:29:03AM I KNOW ALSO IN THEIR PROPOSAL THEY SAY A TRAFFIC STUDY IS
11:29:08AM GOING TO BE DONE.
11:29:08AM I JUST WONDERED IF THEY HAVE DONE THAT ALREADY.
11:29:11AM OR IF THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE AT A LATER DATE.
11:29:14AM THEY ALSO HAVE HERE THAT THEY ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT 12th
11:29:20AM AVENUE IS 18 FEET OF PAVED STREET.
11:29:25AM ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY TOOK IT
11:29:28AM UPON HIMSELF TO PAY A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
11:29:32AM HE CAME UP WITH A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE TO DO
11:29:37AM IN ORDER TO HAVE ALL OF THIS TRAFFIC COMING IN OFF OF 12th
11:29:40AM AND 35th.
11:29:42AM FIRST OF ALL, THEY NEED TO HAVE 10-FOOT ON EACH DIRECTION.
11:29:45AM THEY NEED TO HAVE TWO FOOT MIAMI CURBS AND THEY NEED TO HAVE
11:29:49AM PAVED MARKINGS ON THE STREET AND ALSO INSTALL A TURN LANE.
11:29:53AM THERE'S LITERALLY NO SPACE ON THAT STREET FOR ALL OF THIS TO
11:29:58AM HAPPEN.
11:29:58AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT COULD STAY THE SAME.
11:30:01AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:30:03AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:30:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:30:06AM IF NOT, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL TIME, MR. ARNOLD.
11:30:10AM >> YES, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR US
11:30:12AM TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
11:30:13AM AND WE CERTAINLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
11:30:15AM WE UNDERSTAND -- I MEAN, ORIGINALLY IT PROPOSED COMING OFF
11:30:18AM OF 34th, BUT IT'S NOT TRUCKS ACCESS.
11:30:22AM IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND EASEMENTS.
11:30:24AM TIM, DO YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE IT JUST A LITTLE BIT?
11:30:28AM >> ON THE EARLIER VERSION OF THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN BY
11:30:31AM THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, A WING OF THE BUILDING EXTENDED OVER
11:30:35AM HERE ONTO THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
11:30:39AM WE WERE UNAWARE AT THE TIME, THAT ALTHOUGH 35th HAD BEEN
11:30:42AM VACATED, STILL WAS A 50-FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT THROUGH
11:30:46AM 35th.
11:30:47AM WE COULD NOT BUILD ON THAT.
11:30:48AM WE HAVE TO SHIFT THE BUILDING OVER AND BASICALLY GIVEN THE
11:30:53AM GRAND TREES, GIVEN THE UTILITY EASEMENT AND SHIFTING THE
11:30:56AM BUILDING OVER, WE HAD TO LOSE THE ROOM THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE
11:31:02AM FOR THE DRIVE ACCESS OFF OF 34th.
11:31:04AM BUT IN ADDITION, AS MENTIONED FOR SANITATION AND FOR FIRE,
11:31:09AM NEED TO PROVIDE THREE-POINT TURNAROUND ON THE PROPERTY.
11:31:12AM AGAIN, THE ONLY PLACE THAT REALLY FIT WAS TO UTILIZE THE
11:31:17AM 35th STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN VACATED TO
11:31:23AM SORT OF BRING IT BACK.
11:31:24AM WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ON TRAFFIC.
11:31:26AM WE THINK THEY ARE REASONABLE CONCERNS, AND WE'RE VERY MUCH
11:31:31AM IN FAVOR OF ANY KIND OF APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC-CALMING DEVICES,
11:31:36AM INCLUDING PERHAPS STOP SIGNS AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHAT WAS
11:31:41AM 35th AND 12th OR SPEED HUMPS.
11:31:45AM WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY
11:31:49AM AS THIS PROJECT PROGRESSES.
11:31:51AM BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT CURRENT LACK OF TASK CALMING, WHICH
11:31:58AM WASN'T NEEDED IN THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION NEIGHBORHOOD
11:32:01AM SHOULD BE A REASON TO DENY THE PROJECT.
11:32:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:32:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
11:32:06AM I DIDN'T KNOW IF SOMEONE WAS ONLINE.
11:32:15AM I JUST WONDERED IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD PUT ON THE SITE
11:32:23AM PLAN ABOUT STOP SIGNS, DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HELP
11:32:28AM ALLEVIATE THE RESIDENTS' CONCERNS.
11:32:30AM IF THE DEVELOPER IS IN FAVOR OF IT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT
11:32:34AM WE CAN ADD OR -- OH, THERE IS MS. FEELEY.
11:32:38AM WOW, IT IS SORT OF LIKE A SNAP AND YOU APPEAR.
11:32:41AM DO WE NEED TO SWEAR HER IN?
11:32:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. FEELEY, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT
11:32:45AM HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN JUST IN CASE.
11:32:49AM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
11:32:51AM ARE GOING TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:32:54AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DO.
11:32:55AM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
11:32:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. FEELEY.
11:32:57AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
11:32:59AM ABBYE FEELEY.
11:33:01AM I JUST WANTED, TYPICALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS GIVEN THAT
11:33:07AM THOSE PARAMETERS GO WITH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEPARTMENT AND
11:33:15AM MOBILITY, WE WOULD TYPICALLY PUT SOME SORT OF NOTE THAT
11:33:19AM TRAFFIC-CALMING MECHANISMS OR STOP SIGNS WOULD BE REVIEWED
11:33:23AM AND APPROVED THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS IN COORDINATION
11:33:27AM WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING TO THOSE EFFECTS.
11:33:34AM ERIC COTTON IS OUT OF TOWN THIS WEEK, AND I KNOW THAT HIS
11:33:38AM TEAM REVIEWED THIS, AND THEY RAN THIS THROUGH A DRC, JUST
11:33:42AM LIKE WE WOULD A REGULAR REZONING.
11:33:46AM TYPICALLY THESE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS CONTROL THE PRIVATE
11:33:50AM PROPERTY.
11:33:51AM AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THE PUBLIC AND THE TRAFFIC
11:33:55AM CIRCULATION ARE HANDLED THROUGH NOT BE ABLE TO.
11:33:58AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK THIS
11:34:02AM IS AT SECOND READING.
11:34:03AM AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK.
11:34:05AM I COULD DEFINITELY WORK WITH MOBILITY IN BETWEEN NOW AND
11:34:10AM THEN TO SEE IF THEY LOOKED AT THIS IN TERMS OF THAT, AND
11:34:14AM THEN WE COULD WORK WITH TYLER AND HIS TEAM ABOUT ADDRESSING
11:34:18AM THAT MODIFICATION TO THE SITE PLAN OR AT LEAST REPORTING
11:34:23AM BACK TO YOU PER THAT DISCUSSION, HERE IS THE OUTCOME OF THAT
11:34:26AM DISCUSSION.
11:34:27AM THAT IS AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE
11:34:30AM WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO.
11:34:32AM BUT IT WOULD PUT THIS BACK.
11:34:35AM MS. JOHNS WOULD CONFIRM, IT WOULD PUT THIS ITEM BACK AGAIN
11:34:38AM ON A SECOND READING.
11:34:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:34:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS -- WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE --
11:34:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF I REMEMBER, THIS WAS SORT OF FOUND
11:34:49AM CONSISTENT WITH EVERYBODY.
11:34:51AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY CAN DO, IF THE TRANSPORTATION AND
11:34:53AM EVERYBODY ALREADY LOOKED AT THIS, MOBILITY FOUND IT
11:34:56AM CONSISTENT.
11:34:56AM I AGREE WITH YOU.
11:34:59AM I WAS CONCERNED TOO.
11:35:02AM IF THEY FOUND IT CONSISTENT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OUT OF
11:35:04AM OUR HANDS.
11:35:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. FEELEY, ARE THERE OTHER WAYS THAT -- SO
11:35:11AM THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES SAID THAT THEY AGREE THAT THERE
11:35:14AM SHOULD BE SOME TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES.
11:35:17AM AT WHAT POINT WOULD THAT HAPPEN IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND HOW
11:35:20AM COULD WE GET THE NEIGHBORS INVOLVED AT THAT TIME?
11:35:27AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: TYPICALLY, THOSE TRAFFIC CALMING MECHANISMS
11:35:30AM ARE GOVERNED BY THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:35:32AM THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT GO WITH THEM, RIGHT?
11:35:34AM THE PLACEMENT OF THE STOP SIGNS AT SO MANY INTERSECTIONS.
11:35:39AM THAT'S ALL UNDER WITH BRANDON'S TEAM.
11:35:43AM SO I WOULD SUGGEST EITHER CONTINUING THIS, HAVE THOSE
11:35:48AM DISCUSSIONS AND COME BACK WITH A MEANINGFUL TYPE OF
11:35:50AM RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU OR GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
11:35:54AM I DON'T WANT US -- AND THAT REALLY IS MORE OF A VERY
11:35:58AM TECHNICAL TYPE OF PROCESS.
11:36:01AM SO I DON'T KNOW, IF THEY SAY THE SPACING HAS TO BE X OR Y,
11:36:07AM WE HAVE TECHNICAL STANDARDS FROM THE INTERSECTIONS, HOW FAR
11:36:09AM THE DRIVEWAYS NEED TO BE, ET CETERA.
11:36:12AM I DON'T WANT TO OVERPROMISE AND UNDERDELIVER WHEN IT COMES
11:36:18AM TO MAKING THAT A PUBLIC TYPE OF PROCESS.
11:36:21AM I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO MOBILITY BEFORE
11:36:23AM WE PUT SOME SORT OF CONDITION ON THAT COULD OR COULD NOT BE
11:36:29AM UPHELD.
11:36:30AM I JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
11:36:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S FAIR.
11:36:34AM APPLICANTS, ANY THOUGHTS?
11:36:36AM >> NO, OTHER --
11:36:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME.
11:36:41AM >> ARNOLD FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:36:42AM WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
11:36:44AM WE WANT IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND A GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
11:36:47AM WE HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY UNDER PARAGRAPH 4 OF THE
11:36:50AM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
11:36:50AM WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.
11:36:52AM WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
11:36:54AM BUT WE SUPPORT, AS TIM SAID, ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC CALMING
11:36:58AM DEVICES AND WE'LL DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
11:37:01AM THERE IS ALSO A SIDEWALK AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT.
11:37:03AM SO THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT AROUND THIS CORNER.
11:37:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A WAY THAT WHEN YOU GET YOUR TRAFFIC
11:37:10AM STUDY, DO YOU HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE NEIGHBORS IN
11:37:14AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
11:37:15AM >> WE DO.
11:37:16AM WE HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:37:17AM ASSOCIATION.
11:37:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST IS REACHING OUT TO THE
11:37:24AM WOMAN WHO SPOKE TODAY, MAKING SURE, ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE IS
11:37:28AM ACROSS THE STREET, THAT AS THAT PARKING STUDY -- OR THE
11:37:32AM STUDY -- TRAFFIC STUDY GETS DONE, THAT EVERYONE HAVE A
11:37:39AM LITTLE BIT OF INPUT AND UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT GOES ON.
11:37:42AM >> WE WILL DO THAT.
11:37:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:37:45AM ARE WE GOING TO SEND THIS BACK -- ARE WE GOING TO SUPPORT IT
11:37:49AM TODAY?
11:37:50AM >> WE WOULD PREFER IT TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY.
11:37:52AM COULD YOU APPROVE IT SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A
11:37:55AM TRAFFIC STUDY?
11:37:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY AT THE
11:37:59AM FINAL STAGE FOR APPROVAL.
11:38:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
11:38:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:38:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.
11:38:11AM FROM THE WORDS I HEARD FROM MR. ARNOLD, THEY ARE GOING TO
11:38:14AM WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:38:15AM THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
11:38:16AM THEY ARE GOING TO SHOW IT TO THEM.
11:38:18AM GIVEN THE CONSISTENT FINDING ALREADY ON THIS ISSUE, WHICH
11:38:23AM THEY'LL GO A STEP FURTHER, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, I'M FINE
11:38:26AM WITH VOTING ON IT TODAY.
11:38:27AM I WON'T SAY ANYTHING FURTHER.
11:38:34AM I'M FINE WITH VOTING ON IT TODAY.
11:38:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:37AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:38:38AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:38:40AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:38:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:38:43AM AYE.
11:38:44AM WHO WISHES TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION?
11:38:45AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND A SECOND
11:38:49AM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:38:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:38:51AM AYE.
11:38:53AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:38:53AM PLEASE READ THE VOTE.
11:38:55AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:39:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:39:04AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:05AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:39:05AM WE CAN'T TOUCH THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS UNTIL 1:30.
11:39:11AM MR. SHELBY, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST?
11:39:13AM WE HAVE THE ITEMS UNDER STAFF --
11:39:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE 72, 74, 75, 76.
11:39:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO MOVE 72, 74, 75 -- YEAH, 76.
11:39:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 72, 74, 75, 76.
11:39:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND 82 AND 83, I BELIEVE, WE ALSO MOTIONED.
11:39:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:39:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DIDN'T NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR IT.
11:39:49AM YOU WANT TO DO EVERYTHING YOU SAID EXCEPT 82 AND 83?
11:39:54AM >> SURE.
11:39:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:39:56AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:39:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:39:59AM AYE.
11:39:59AM THAT WAS 72, 74, 75, AND 76.
11:40:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO RECEIVE AND FILE 82 AND 83,
11:40:07AM STAFF AT LEAST WILL KNOW --
11:40:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: RECEIVE AND FILE 82 AND 83.
11:40:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
11:40:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:40:13AM AYE.
11:40:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE DO 69 AND 70?
11:40:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 69, THERE IS A PowerPoint FOR
11:40:21AM THIS.
11:40:22AM YES, MA'AM, ARE YOU READY WITH IT?
11:40:25AM >> HERE WE GO.
11:40:27AM WE'RE READY.
11:40:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: PERFECT TIMING.
11:40:36AM >> RAN FROM HANNA TO GET HERE.
11:40:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEVER KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
11:40:46AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:40:47AM I'M HEATHER BONDS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALIST.
11:40:50AM TODAY I'M HERE TO PRESENT A REQUEST FOR HISTORIC
11:40:54AM PRESERVATION TAX EXEMPTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:40:57AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION IS ONE OF OUR
11:41:07AM PRESERVATION INCENTIVE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE THAT ENCOURAGE
11:41:13AM AND CAN HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS OF REHABILITATION.
11:41:17AM BUILT IN 1915, 1807 NORTH MORGAN IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE
11:41:24AM IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:41:26AM OWNED BY HARVEY SCHONBRUN AS HIS LAW OFFICES.
11:41:30AM AS PART OF THIS REHABILITATION, THE STRUCTURE WAS RELOCATED
11:41:35AM FROM THE LOT TO THE WEST AND REORIENTED TO FACE NORTH MORGAN
11:41:40AM STREET.
11:41:40AM THIS ALLOWED FOR A NEW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE WEST
11:41:45AM PORTION LOTS.
11:41:46AM HERE IS THE IMPRESSIVE BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS OF THE FRONT
11:41:52AM FACADE.
11:41:53AM IT'S ALWAYS FUN JUST TO SEE A HOUSE ON THE MOVE.
11:41:59AM THREW THOSE IN THERE FOR YOU TODAY.
11:42:00AM THIS IS THE INTERIOR SIDE FACADE.
11:42:04AM THIS PROJECT INCLUDED A NEW PARKING LOT AND A PARKING SHADE
11:42:07AM THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE.
11:42:08AM THE WOOD PORCH WAS RESTORED AND REFINISHED AFTER THE GRAY
11:42:14AM PAINT WAS STRIPPED FROM THE EXISTING PORCH.
11:42:18AM AND IT WAS RESTORED TO TYPICAL HARD WOOD FRONT PORCH.
11:42:23AM THERE ARE EIGHT UNIQUE CHIMNEY MANTLES.
11:42:27AM EVERY SINGLE MANTLE THROUGH THE STRUCTURE IS COMPLETELY
11:42:30AM DIFFERENT AND THEY RESTORED EACH OF THE EIGHT MANTLES.
11:42:32AM THESE ARE TWO BEFORE AND AFTERS.
11:42:35AM THE ENTRANCE LOBBY WITH THE ORIGINAL BANISTERS AND STAIR
11:42:39AM TREADS AND WAINSCOTTING WAS ALL REHABILITATED.
11:42:42AM THE CHANDELIER WAS LIKELY ADDED IN THE 1950s, BUT MR.
11:42:47AM SCHONBRUN ACTUALLY HAD THE WHOLE THING REHABILITATED AND
11:42:50AM RESTORED WITH EACH GLASS PIECE TAKEN OFF, CLEANED, AND PUT
11:42:54AM BACK ON.
11:42:55AM I FORGOT HOW MANY PIECES HE SAID, BUT IT WAS PRETTY
11:42:59AM IMPRESSIVE.
11:43:01AM THE INTERIOR LAYOUT WAS ALSO PRESERVED.
11:43:04AM MANY OF THE ORIGINAL DETAILS WERE RESTORED AS WELL.
11:43:08AM OVERALL, MR. SCHONBRUN AND HIS TEAM WITH LEAD ARCHITECT
11:43:12AM ANDREW MATTSON SAVED A BEAUTIFUL SHOWPIECE HERE IN TAMPA
11:43:16AM HEIGHTS.
11:43:17AM THE ARC THOUGHT SO, TOO.
11:43:21AM THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON APRIL 7, AND STAFF RESPECTFULLY
11:43:25AM RECOMMENDS CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE AD VALOREM BASED ON IT
11:43:28AM MEETING THE CRITERIA IN ORDINANCE 93-137.
11:43:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:43:33AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:43:33AM IT'S A BEAUTIFUL RESTORATION JOB.
11:43:36AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, 69?
11:43:39AM I SEE NO ONE.
11:43:41AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
11:43:43AM IF NOT, MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:43:44AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:43:47AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:43:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:43:49AM AYE.
11:43:51AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:43:51AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, LIKE TO READ 69.
11:43:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE HTX 25-13984, ORDINANCE BEING
11:43:59AM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:44:01AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX
11:44:04AM EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
11:44:07AM RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
11:44:09AM HARVEY SCHONBRUN, TRUSTEE, LOCATED AT 1807 NORTH MORGAN
11:44:15AM STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC
11:44:17AM DISTRICT, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE
11:44:21AM TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING
11:44:22AM FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES,
11:44:26AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:44:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:44:29AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:44:29AM AYE.
11:44:30AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:44:30AM GREAT.
11:44:35AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
11:44:37AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:44:38AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025, AT
11:44:41AM 10 A.M. AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
11:44:45AM 33602.
11:44:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:48AM >> THANK YOU.
11:44:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 70.
11:44:51AM >> HEATHER BONDS.
11:44:52AM B-O-N-D-S.
11:44:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:56AM ITEM NUMBER 70.
11:44:59AM >> HEATHER BONDS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALIST.
11:45:02AM I HAVE ANOTHER TAX EXEMPTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY.
11:45:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:45:09AM GO AHEAD.
11:45:10AM >> THIS STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN 1917.
11:45:14AM IT IS PART OF THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:45:18AM DREW NEWMAN AND HIS WIFE ARIEL PETERS ARE THE OWNER AND THEY
11:45:22AM TOOK SPECIAL CARE IN RESTORING THIS STRUCTURE AS WELL.
11:45:26AM THE REHABILITATION OF THIS CRAFTSMAN-STYLE BUNGALOW
11:45:30AM PRESERVED MANY OF THE CRAFTSMAN ELEMENTS, SUCH AS THE LARGE
11:45:33AM FRONT PORCH, BRICKWORK, AND, AS YOU CAN SEE, NICE PAINT JOB
11:45:38AM CAN BE INCREDIBLY IMPACTFUL.
11:45:40AM THERE'S ARE BEAUTIFUL CRAFTSMAN COLORS.
11:45:45AM ALL OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS WERE ALSO RESTORED.
11:45:49AM HERE IS A CLOSE-UP OF ONE OF THE WINDOWS.
11:45:53AM THEY HELPED RESTORE SOME OF THE DAMAGED WOOD.
11:45:56AM THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF WINDOWS ON THIS
11:46:00AM STRUCTURE, AND THEY TOOK CARE TO RESTORE EACH OF THOSE
11:46:03AM UNIQUE STYLE OF WINDOWS.
11:46:05AM THE GABLE ENDS WERE RESTORED WITH THE APPROPRIATE VENTING.
11:46:11AM YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE BEFORE PICTURE HOW THEY INSTALLED A
11:46:14AM VENTING INAPPROPRIATELY AND THEY RESTORED IT BACK TO THE
11:46:18AM HISTORIC FORM.
11:46:19AM THE INTERIOR WAS PRESERVED AND RESTORED FROM THE FLOOR TO
11:46:26AM THE CEILING BEAMS.
11:46:28AM ALL BUILT-INS REHABILITATED AND MR. NEWMAN EVEN HAD THE
11:46:31AM CABINET DOORS REPLICATED WHEN SOMEONE BROKE INTO HIS HOUSE
11:46:36AM DURING THE RESTORATION AND STOLE THE IRONWORK FROM ALL OF
11:46:39AM THE CABINETS.
11:46:39AM THEY LEFT ONE, AND HE WENT AND HAD THE OTHER THREE RESTORED
11:46:43AM TO LOOK JUST LIKE THAT ONE.
11:46:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GEEZ.
11:46:46AM HE DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB.
11:46:49AM >> THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE ONES.
11:46:50AM THEY EVEN PUT THE PUSH-BUTTON LIGHTS TO REPLACE THE MODERN
11:46:57AM WHITE PLASTIC MODEL TO ADD TO THE HISTORIC AUTHENTICITY.
11:47:01AM THEY RESTORED THE FIREPLACES THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE AND THE
11:47:06AM HARD WOOD FLOOR WAS REFURBISHED.
11:47:09AM WE THANK MR. NEWMAN AND HIS WIFE, MS. PETERS, FOR SUCH
11:47:13AM INCREDIBLE ATTENTION TO DETAIL.
11:47:14AM THE ARC VOTED TO RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVE THE TAX EXEMPTION
11:47:18AM ON APRIL 7 AND STAFF FOUND IT MEETS THE CRITERIA OF
11:47:21AM ORDINANCE 93-137 AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS COUNCIL'S
11:47:26AM APPROVAL.
11:47:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS
11:47:30AM ITEM, 70?
11:47:31AM I SEE NONE.
11:47:32AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:47:33AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:47:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:47:36AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:47:36AM AYE.
11:47:37AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:47:37AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 70 -- OH, IT IS AN
11:47:42AM ORDINANCE.
11:47:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS 69 ALSO READ?
11:47:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DIDN'T READ IT.
11:47:48AM PLEASE READ ITEM 70 AND THEN BACK TO 69 FOR THE RECORD.
11:47:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO SAY ON 69, I WAS IN THE BACK AND
11:47:57AM I WAS WATCHING.
11:47:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO READ IT.
11:48:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE FILE HTX 25-13986, AN ORDINANCE
11:48:13AM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
11:48:15AM APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION
11:48:17AM APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION, RENOVATION OR
11:48:21AM REHABILITATION OF A CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY ANDREW M.
11:48:24AM NEWMAN AND ARIEL E. PETERS LOCATED AT 1704 WEST JETTON
11:48:29AM AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT,
11:48:33AM BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE TO THE
11:48:36AM PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR
11:48:38AM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
11:48:41AM CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:48:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
11:48:44AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:48:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:48:46AM AYE.
11:48:47AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:48:47AM YES, MA'AM.
11:48:54AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH SECOND READING
11:48:57AM AND ADOPTION HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025 AT 10 A.M.
11:49:00AM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:49:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO REOPEN 69.
11:49:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM HURTAK.
11:49:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO AGAIN REPEAT IT FOR THE RECORD THAT
11:49:12AM I WAS WATCHING --
11:49:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT?
11:49:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I AM PREPARED TO VOTE.
11:49:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE AGAIN.
11:49:21AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:49:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:49:24AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:49:25AM AYE.
11:49:27AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, 69 SO WE CAN READ IT FOR THE RECORD.
11:49:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE HTX 25-13984, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
11:49:37AM FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:49:39AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX
11:49:41AM EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
11:49:43AM RENOVATION OR REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY
11:49:46AM HARVEY SCHONBRUN, TRUSTEE, LOCATED AT 1807 NORTH MORGAN
11:49:51AM STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC
11:49:53AM DISTRICT, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE
11:49:56AM TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY; PROVIDING
11:49:58AM FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
11:50:02AM CONFLICT; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:50:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
11:50:05AM WE HAVE A SECOND -- MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:50:07AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:50:09AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:50:09AM AYE.
11:50:12AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:50:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS
11:50:17AM ONE GET RENOVATED.
11:50:19AM IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE.
11:50:20AM IT'S ON ONE OF MY BIKE ROUTES AND IT'S BEEN REALLY NEAT TO
11:50:25AM WATCH IT HAPPEN.
11:50:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THESE ARE TOUGH TO READ.
11:50:29AM THE LANGUAGE IS SO DIFFERENT.
11:50:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE READ THE VOTE.
11:50:33AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:50:35AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025, AT
11:50:38AM 10 A.M. AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
11:50:42AM 33602.
11:50:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:50:45AM YES, MA'AM.
11:50:47AM WE CAN BREAK FOR LUNCH.
11:50:53AM HARRY, CAN YOU DO IT IN A FEW MINUTES?
11:50:58AM WHICH ITEM ARE YOU, MR. PERRY.
11:51:02AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:51:03AM >> MIKE PERRY, BUDGET OFFICER.
11:51:05AM ITEM NUMBER 73, I DO HAVE MARLEY CLARK SCHEDULED TO BE HERE
11:51:12AM AT 1:30 SO SHE CAN ASSIST US.
11:51:15AM I DON'T THINK I CAN DO THE MIDYEAR REVIEW IN SHORT TIME.
11:51:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THOUGHT WE SHOULD ASK.
11:51:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BREAK FOR LUNCH AND BACK AT 1:30?
11:51:23AM WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
11:51:25AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:51:26AM [LUNCH RECESS]
01:38:04PM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE YOU A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:38:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC
01:38:09PM HEARINGS.
01:38:10PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:38:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:38:15PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:38:17PM OPPOSED?
01:38:18PM MR. SHELBY.
01:38:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE GET STARTED, SOMETHING I NEED TO
01:38:22PM --
01:38:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR MICROPHONE, SIR.
01:38:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ABOUT THE SPECIAL USE HEARING THAT WAS BROUGHT
01:38:30PM TO MY ATTENTION.
01:38:31PM ADDRESS IS 3003 WEST CYPRESS STREET.
01:38:37PM MADAM CLERK, DO YOU KNOW WHICH NUMBER ITEM THAT IS?
01:38:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAYS 60.
01:38:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD LIKE NUMBER 60 TO BE RECALLED
01:38:50PM PLEASE.
01:38:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GET A MOTION?
01:38:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED ON ADVICE OF COUNCIL.
01:38:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:39:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:39:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A CHANGE AND A CORRECTION MADE DURING THE
01:39:07PM FIRST READING AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT CORRECTION WAS NOT
01:39:10PM REFLECT IN WHAT WAS READ FOR ITEM 60.
01:39:13PM DO YOU HAVE THE CORRECT ONE?
01:39:15PM >> I DO, SIR.
01:39:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN YOU READ THAT AS IT IS IN THE
01:39:20PM ORDINANCE?
01:39:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE NEED TO PULL IT.
01:39:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO DO YOU WANT TO RESCIND THAT VOTE AND
01:39:33PM THEN READ THE TITLE AND VOTE AGAIN?
01:39:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE TO RESCIND.
01:39:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
01:39:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THAT FROM THAT
01:39:43PM PAPER.
01:39:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, THE OFFICIAL ORDINANCE.
01:39:47PM ORDINANCE APPROVING SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE
01:39:52PM VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE
01:39:57PM CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
01:40:00PM REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FROM
01:40:05PM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED 3003 WEST
01:40:10PM CYPRESS STREET, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3
01:40:13PM PROVIDING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
01:40:16PM ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE 8859-A PROVIDED AN
01:40:26PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:40:28PM >> SECOND.
01:40:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET'S DO A ROLL CALL, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
01:40:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.
01:40:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
01:40:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
01:40:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
01:40:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
01:40:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:40:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:40:45PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
01:40:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 65.
01:40:52PM A REQUEST TO CONTINUE FROM YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
01:40:55PM >> YES, SIR, I BELIEVE THE REQUEST IS IN THERE THAT WE SENT
01:41:02PM REQUESTING 60 DAYS TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER.
01:41:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 60 DAYS WILL PUT US INTO JULY.
01:41:10PM BUT WE SAID JULY 17 WAS FULL.
01:41:13PM DO WE HAVE A SPACE IN AUGUST?
01:41:15PM WE MADE A MOTION EARLIER OF AUGUST 7, BUT HOW ABOUT JULY 31?
01:41:24PM >> IS THAT CONFLICT WITH THE BUDGET PRESENTATION?
01:41:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, THE 17th.
01:41:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LIMITS TO FOUR STAFF REPORTS BUT DOESN'T SAY
01:41:32PM ANYTHING OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.
01:41:33PM WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS.
01:41:35PM >> THAT IS FINE.
01:41:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AUGUST 7 IS WHAT THE CLERK IS SUGGESTING.
01:41:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT AUGUST 7.
01:41:43PM >> YES, SIR.
01:41:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE 67 TO AUGUST 7.
01:41:48PM MOTION AND SECOND.
01:41:52PM >> 1:30.
01:41:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, 1:30, 315 E. KENNEDY, TAMPA,
01:42:01PM FLORIDA.
01:42:02PM THIRD FLOOR.
01:42:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 66.
01:42:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR 66, I WAS INQUIRING FOR THE FIRE CHIEF AND
01:42:10PM POLICE STAFF.
01:42:11PM HOW MANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR 66?
01:42:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN PERSON AND A LOT OF SPEAKER
01:42:18PM WAIVER FORMS.
01:42:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: TALKING OF SOMETHING THAT WILL RUN -- WHAT DID
01:42:22PM YOU SAY, TWO AND A HALF HOURS OR SO.
01:42:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GUESSING THREE.
01:42:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: GIVEN THE AGENDA.
01:42:29PM I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE POLICE CHIEF.
01:42:31PM NOT THE FIRE CHIEF ON THIS.
01:42:33PM WHAT IF WE MOVED THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN AND FIRE
01:42:38PM STATION 25 POTENTIALLY TO THE FOLLOWING WEEK OR SOON
01:42:41PM THEREAFTER AS WE CAN DO SO.
01:42:45PM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON THESE ISSUES.
01:42:47PM IF I FEEL -- SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES IN TAMPA.
01:42:51PM I FEEL IF WE DON'T, IT WILL -- NOW, NEXT WEEK IS A WORKSHOP.
01:42:54PM WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE WORKSHOP, I THINK, IF WE WAIVED THE
01:42:57PM RULES JUST TO GET IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
01:42:59PM THE WORKSHOP DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE TOO DARN BUSY AND LIMIT IT
01:43:03PM TO 30 MINUTES AS A WORKSHOP EQUIVALENT.
01:43:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW.
01:43:08PM IT HAS A LOT OF STUFF ON IT.
01:43:10PM I MEAN, DOES -- I HAVE THE MOBILITY THINGS ABOUT STORMWATER.
01:43:16PM THE JULY 24 AMENDMENT CYCLE.
01:43:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: WELL TAKEN.
01:43:22PM HOW ABOUT WE DO A WAIVER OF THE RULES FOR JUNE 5, OR
01:43:27PM INTERNALLY SOMEBODY WITHDRAWS ONE OF THE REPORTS FROM JUNE
01:43:30PM 5.
01:43:30PM NONE ARE MINE TO GET IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
01:43:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MOVE -- I WILL CONTINUE THE LOWER
01:43:40PM PENINSULA WATERSHED PLAN PROJECT TO A FUTURE DATE.
01:43:44PM I WILL CONFER WITH CITY STAFF ON THE BEST DAY FOR THEM.
01:43:51PM I MOTION TO MOVE THE SOON-TO-BE-COMPLETED LOWER WATERSHED
01:43:59PM PROJECT MOTION FROM JUNE 5 TO A DATE TO BE DETERMINED.
01:44:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:44:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:44:06PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:44:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALSO, MISS FEELEY IS HERE AND WILL SPEAK
01:44:11PM WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE.
01:44:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN.
01:44:17PM I AM ACTUALLY OUT COUNTRY ON TUESDAY.
01:44:21PM AND ASK FOR JULY 17 TO GET THE NEXT UPDATE.
01:44:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, WONDERFUL.
01:44:27PM SO THAT, I WITHDRAW THAT ITEM WHICH IS ABBYE FEELEY,
01:44:31PM ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, TO
01:44:34PM APPEAR AND REPORT ON THE FIRST WEEK OF EACH MONTH ON THE
01:44:37PM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REFORM PROCESS FOR THIS JUNE 5 ONLY.
01:44:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION.
01:44:42PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
01:44:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:44:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:44:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHILE WE ARE AT MOVING THINGS.
01:44:49PM FIRST ITEM STAFF TO PRESENT WILL BE REQUIRE FOR CITY OF
01:44:54PM TAMPA -- BECAUSE OF THE DEPARTURE OF OUR MOBILITY DIRECTOR
01:44:57PM AND THE CHANGES TO THE DEPARTMENT.
01:44:58PM I WILL SAY REMOVE THAT ITEM AND REVISIT THAT AS THAT
01:45:01PM DEPARTMENT IS MORE STABLE.
01:45:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
01:45:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO REMOVE THE STREETCAR AND A
01:45:07PM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:45:08PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:45:09PM OPPOSED?
01:45:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I MOVE ITEM 70 AND 79 TO JUNE 5 WITH
01:45:15PM THE REQUEST THAT THE FOLLOWING QUARTERLY UPDATES ON STATION
01:45:20PM 24 CONTINUES NOT WITHSTANDING THIS.
01:45:22PM I WILL LET CHIEF TRIPP KNOW AND HER STAFF AND CHIEF BERCAW
01:45:28PM IS BACK THERE.
01:45:29PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
01:45:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
01:45:33PM MEMBER VIERA.
01:45:33PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:45:34PM ANYTHING ELSE?
01:45:36PM IF NOT, WE WILL GO WITH THIS 1:30 HEARING.
01:45:39PM CHIEF TRIPP, YOU CAME ON, ANYTHING -- COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA
01:45:44PM IS GOING TO CALL YOU, CHIEF TRIPP.
01:45:46PM SO STAND BY FOR THE CALL.
01:45:49PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:45:50PM LET'S START THIS ITEM 66.
01:45:53PM MR. SHELBY, KICK IT OFF OR MISS ZELMAN.
01:45:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY WILL DO THE HEARINGS FIRST.
01:46:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MR. SHELBY.
01:46:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
01:46:06PM I HAVE HERE SOME LIMITED MATTERS ON ITEM NUMBER -- NUMBER 66.
01:46:16PM THE SU 1-24-98.
01:46:21PM AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE CAN HAVE THE ATTORNEYS AND THE
01:46:26PM APPLICANT AT THE LECTERN, PLEASE.
01:46:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
01:46:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS MR. TRELA HERE?
01:46:38PM >> YES.
01:46:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. TRELA, ARE YOU GOING TO BE
01:46:41PM REPRESENTING --
01:46:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE YOU ASK ANY QUESTIONS, ASK FOR
01:46:44PM EVERYONE TO BE SWORN IN.
01:46:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 66,
01:46:49PM PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU
01:46:52PM IN.
01:46:53PM [SWEARING IN]
01:47:03PM I DO.
01:47:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
01:47:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, IF WE CAN, AN
01:47:11PM ISSUE OF NOTICE HAS BEEN RAISED.
01:47:13PM AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE SHOULD ADDRESS THAT UP FRONT.
01:47:17PM I WANT TO KNOW WHETHER COUNSEL FOR THE APPLICANT AND COUNSEL
01:47:25PM FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER WISH TO ADDRESS THE NOTICE ISSUE AT
01:47:28PM THIS TIME.
01:47:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
01:47:34PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
01:47:35PM >> BEN DACHEPALLI ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER 2 LCC.
01:47:45PM I AM SWORN IN WITH THE BRADLEY LAW FIRM 2001 WATER STREET,
01:47:50PM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
01:47:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THE NOTICE ISSUE, DO YOU --
01:47:57PM THERE ARE TWO ADDRESSES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, IS THAT IS
01:48:01PM THAT CORRECT?
01:48:02PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
01:48:02PM AS A THRESHOLD MATTER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
01:48:07PM THE CITY CODE MANDATES THAT THE PETITIONER SHALL SERVE ITS
01:48:12PM PETITION OF REVIEW ON THE PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF
01:48:15PM FOLLOWING.
01:48:15PM SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR ITEM 66 IS OWNED BY TWO SEPARATE AND
01:48:23PM DISTINCT LEGAL ENTITIES.
01:48:25PM ONLY ONE OF THOSE LEGAL ENTITIES, THE ONE I AM REPRESENTING
01:48:29PM OR PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF TODAY, WAS GF ALT FINANCE TWO.
01:48:35PM THE FAILURE TO SERVE THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNER 4565 WEST
01:48:39PM GANDY LCC VIOLATES THAT OWNER'S DUE PROCESS RIGHT AND WANTS
01:48:43PM A DISMISSAL OF PREJUDICE FOR THE PETITION FOR REVIEW.
01:48:47PM AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE 2761-E IS A MANDATED
01:48:54PM CONDITION SUBSEQUENT FOR A VALID PETITION FOR REVIEW.
01:48:58PM IT IS CLEAR AND AMBIGUOUS IN THE LANGUAGE OF 27-61-E, THAT
01:49:04PM THE PETITIONER "SHALL," "SHALL" SERVE A PETITION VIA
01:49:12PM CERTIFIED MAIL WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF THAT FILING.
01:49:16PM UNFORTUNATELY, MR. TRELA DID NOT SERVE THE OTHER
01:49:20PM PROPERTY OWNER.
01:49:20PM AND AS SUCH, CITY COUNCIL IS REALLY WITHOUT DISCRETION AT
01:49:24PM THAT POINT TO HEAR THIS PETITION AND THE PETITION MUST BE
01:49:27PM DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE.
01:49:34PM NOT DISCRETIONARY BECAUSE IT IS "SHALL" AND MANDATED THAT
01:49:39PM THIS MUST OCCUR IN ORDER FOR THE PETITION TO BE HEARD AND
01:49:43PM VALID.
01:49:44PM THANK YOU.
01:49:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, WHAT SAY YOU OF WHAT HE JUST
01:49:48PM SAID?
01:49:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PARDON, IF I CAN.
01:49:53PM ARE THERE ANY OTHER ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CASE WHO
01:49:57PM NEED TO PUT ANYTHING ON THE RECORD OR WISHES TO PUT ANYTHING
01:50:01PM ON THE RECORD?
01:50:02PM >> THE ONLY THING I -- THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS
01:50:06PM THAT THE APPLICATION INCLUDED BOTH ADDRESSES, THE SITE PLAN,
01:50:11PM THE APPROVED SITE PLAN THAT WAS PART OF THE APPLICATION
01:50:14PM INCLUDED BOTH ADDRESSES.
01:50:15PM A CURSORY REVIEW OF THE PROPERTY RECORDS WOULD HAVE SHOWN
01:50:19PM THAT THE PROPERTY WAS OWNED BY TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT
01:50:23PM PROPERTY OWNERS AND BECAUSE 27-16-E REQUIRES THE PETITIONER
01:50:27PM TO SERVE ANY PROPERTY OWNER, IT IS FAIR TO DO SO OF THE
01:50:32PM OTHER PROPERTY OWNER 44256 WEST GANDY LCC.
01:50:41PM AND MUST BE DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE.
01:50:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
01:50:50PM >> PETE TRELA.
01:50:52PM COUPLE OF THINGS TO THE CONTRARY.
01:50:54PM I AM GLAD THEY DID LET YOU KNOW THAT WE NOTICED THE OWNER AT
01:51:01PM THE TIME -- IS THIS ON.
01:51:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TRANSITION AND PUT UP IT ON THE BIG
01:51:05PM SCREEN.
01:51:06PM >> THERE IS THE APPLICATION.
01:51:07PM I SEE ONE ADDRESS.
01:51:08PM I SEE ONE PROPERTY OWNER.
01:51:09PM OKAY.
01:51:10PM SECOND THING I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE IS HERE IS THE ACELA
01:51:17PM REPORT.
01:51:17PM ONE ADDRESS, ONE PROPERTY OWNER.
01:51:20PM LASTLY, HOW WE FILED OUR PETITION.
01:51:24PM BEAR WITH ME A MOMENT.
01:51:30PM IT WAS ACCEPTED AND WE NOTICED WHEN LOOKING AT THE STATE OF
01:51:40PM FLORIDA BUSINESS RECORDS ONE OWNER LISTED AND THAT IS THE
01:51:42PM OWNER THAT HE IS DISCUSSING.
01:51:44PM WERE THERE OTHER ADDRESSES INVOLVED?
01:51:47PM THAT IS UP TO YOU ALL TO DECIDE, BUT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE
01:51:51PM HAVE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE FOLLOWED THE RULES TO
01:51:53PM THE T.
01:52:03PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
01:52:05PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:52:05PM COUNCIL, I PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET AN ACTUAL COPY OF CODE
01:52:10PM SELECTION 27-16, FOUR-PAGED DOCUMENT, DOUBLE-SIDED.
01:52:14PM I HIGHLIGHTED, IN PARTICULAR, THE CODE -- THE PARAGRAPH IN
01:52:19PM 27-16, SUBSECTIONS E THAT PROVIDES THE PROVISION IF THE
01:52:24PM PETITIONER IS NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THE PETITION FOR
01:52:27PM REVIEW SHALL TO BE PROVIDED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN
01:52:31PM FIVE -- WITHIN FIVE DAYS.
01:52:33PM THAT IS ALL THAT THAT CODE -- THAT PARAGRAPH PROVIDES IS
01:52:39PM THAT THE NOTICE SHALL BE PROVIDED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER
01:52:44PM WITHIN FIVE DAYS.
01:52:45PM WHAT THIS PARAGRAPH DOES NOT INCLUDE A PENALTY IF THAT
01:52:50PM ACTION DOES NOT TAKE PLACE SIMILAR TO ILLUSTRATE MY POINT.
01:52:58PM IF GO ON PAGE 3 -- CODE SECTION 27-16, SUBSECTIONS J,
01:53:09PM SUBSECTIONS 3.
01:53:10PM REMAND OF ALL PERMITS.
01:53:14PM THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
01:53:15PM SUBPARAGRAPH TALKS OF A PENALTY IF YOU FAIL TO PERFECT
01:53:20PM PUBLIC NOTICE WITH PUBLIC HEARING.
01:53:23PM THERE IS A PENALTY IF YOU PROVIDE AND THAT SPECIFICALLY
01:53:30PM OUTLINES THE PENALTY IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.
01:53:32PM HOWEVER, WITH REGARDS TO 27-261, SUBPARAGRAPH E.
01:53:43PM NO PENALTY IF A PETITIONER WHO IS AN AGGRIEVED PERSON FAILS
01:53:48PM TO PROVIDE THAT COPY FOR PETITION OF REVIEW TO THE PROPERTY
01:53:51PM OWNER.
01:53:52PM THERE IS NO PENALTY OUTLINED IN THAT SUBSECTION, SO AS A
01:53:56PM RESULT, IT IS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT'S OPINION THAT THERE IS
01:54:01PM NO DIRECTION OR NO -- IT IS NOT IN THE CODE FOR CITY COUNCIL
01:54:08PM TO DISMISS THIS WITH PREJUDICE.
01:54:10PM THAT IS NOT STATED IN THIS SUBSECTIONS PROVIDING NOTICE
01:54:15PM EXCLUSIVELY TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
01:54:17PM THAT IS NOT THERE.
01:54:20PM THERE IS SIMILAR INFORMATION FOR IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE
01:54:26PM PUBLIC NOTICE.
01:54:28PM NOW IN SUBSECTIONS E, IF THE PETITIONER, WHO IS THE
01:54:32PM AGGRIEVED PERSON FAILS TO NOTIFY THE PETITION OF REVIEW TO
01:54:36PM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
01:54:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNSELOR, YOUR OBJECTION IS NOTED FOR THE
01:54:43PM RECORD.
01:54:44PM I BELIEVE WE CAN MOVE ON.
01:54:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK AND CARLSON.
01:54:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST CLARIFIED.
01:54:52PM I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID THE ADMINISTRATION AND OUR
01:54:55PM CITY ATTORNEY'S POSITION THAT THAT IT DOES NOT CREATE A
01:55:00PM FATAL FLAW.
01:55:01PM AND THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER TODAY AND BE WITHIN THE
01:55:07PM CONFINES OF THE LAW.
01:55:08PM SO THE DECISION OF COUNCIL TODAY WILL STILL BE ABLE TO BE
01:55:12PM DEFENDED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
01:55:14PM IS THAT RIGHT?
01:55:18PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
01:55:19PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:55:20PM YES.
01:55:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:55:24PM CARLSON.
01:55:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO BE PERFECTLY SAFE AND CLEAR HERE.
01:55:32PM IF -- IF THIS IS -- IS THIS -- IS THIS AN APPEALABLE ISSUE, I
01:55:45PM GUESS I WANT TO KNOW FROM OUR CITY LEGAL STAFF.
01:55:48PM SO THE -- COULD THE GENTLEMAN ON MY RIGHT, COULD HE APPEAL
01:56:00PM BASED ON THIS ALONE?
01:56:04PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
01:56:05PM I CAN'T ANSWER WHAT HE MAY BE DOING.
01:56:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT SAYING HE SHOULD, BUT COULD HE?
01:56:11PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I AM ONLY HERE TO GIVE YOU WHAT THE
01:56:14PM CODE SAYS.
01:56:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. SHELBY.
01:56:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
01:56:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD -- NOT THE PETITIONER BUT THE -- THE
01:56:21PM OWNER -- THE PROPERTY OWNER, COULD THEY APPEAL BASED ON JUST
01:56:27PM THIS?
01:56:28PM SO BASICALLY WHAT I AM SAYING, DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND
01:56:31PM MAKE SURE IT IS NOTICED CORRECTLY?
01:56:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. DACHEPALLI'S ARGUMENT THAT IT IS NOT
01:56:39PM CURABLE.
01:56:39PM YOU ARE ADVISED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:56:45PM WHAT THE CODE SAYS AND THE REMEDY THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
01:56:48PM YOU WOULD BE ACTING OUTSIDE THE CODE, AND SHE HAS ADVISED YOU
01:56:51PM THEY ARE PREPARED TO PROCEED AND YOU HAVE BEEN ADVISED YOU
01:56:55PM CAN AND SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AT THIS POINT.
01:56:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
01:56:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON.
01:57:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR OBJECTION IS NOTED FOR THE RECORD AND
01:57:06PM I BELIEVE WE SHOULD MOVE ON.
01:57:07PM >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE RESERVE OUR RIGHTS ACCORDINGLY
01:57:11PM AND ARE PREPARED TO PREPARE OUR PETITION ON ITS OWN THEIR
01:57:15PM WAS PROPERLY NOTICED AND THAT IS ONLY AS TO GF ALT FINANCE
01:57:21PM 2.
01:57:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I CAN UNDERSTAND FOR THE RECORD, THAT THAT
01:57:25PM PERSON IS AWARE OF THIS -- THAT CORPORATION IS AWARE OF THIS
01:57:28PM HEARING TAKING PLACE?
01:57:29PM >> MY OBJECTION IS THAT THERE IS A STRICT REQUIREMENT THAT
01:57:35PM DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANY DISCRETION IN ORDER FOR A PETITION
01:57:39PM FOR REVIEW TO BE VALID.
01:57:42PM AND THE PRESCRIPTIVE ENVIRONMENT UNDER THE TAMPA CITY CODE
01:57:47PM IS THAT A PETITIONER SHALL SERVE ITS PETITION FOR REVIEW ON
01:57:52PM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
01:57:53PM AND BY FAILING TO DO SO ON THE PROPERTY OWNER 4465 WEST
01:58:02PM GANDY LCC.
01:58:03PM OUR PETITION THAT THE PETITION FOR REVIEW FATALLY FAILS AND
01:58:07PM SHOULD BE DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE.
01:58:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT BEING NOTED FOR THE RECORD, ARE YOU
01:58:12PM PREPARED TO MOVE ON TODAY.
01:58:13PM >> ON BEHALF OF GF ALT FINANCE 2, THE OWNER THAT WAS PROPERLY
01:58:18PM NOTICED, YES.
01:58:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
01:58:20PM I DON'T -- IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO SAY, SIR?
01:58:26PM >> SOMETHING THAT CITY -- THAT THEY MENTIONED AND I JUST
01:58:28PM WANT TO CONFIRM.
01:58:29PM IT IS SINGULAR OWNER IN HOW IT IS WRITTEN, CORRECT?
01:58:33PM NOT "OWNERS?"
01:58:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM NOT PREPARED TO MAKE A FINDING AND THE
01:58:38PM CITY COUNCIL IS NOT PERMITTED TO MAKE FINDING OF FACT TODAY.
01:58:42PM >> AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
01:58:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME ASK ARE YOU PREPARED TO MOVE
01:58:51PM FORWARD.
01:58:51PM >> YES.
01:58:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY AS PART OF YOUR
01:58:56PM PRESENTATION.
01:58:56PM ONE OTHER POINT YOU WANTED TO?
01:58:59PM >> HOUSEKEEPING MATTER ONLY IS THAT IN LIGHT OF THE LIBERTY
01:59:03PM HOSPITALITY DECISION THAT WAS HANDED DOWN BY JUDGE MOE IN
01:59:08PM THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT HERE IN TAMPA, CAN THE CITY
01:59:12PM ATTORNEY PLEASE CONFIRM THAT THIS HEARING IS A QUASI-
01:59:15PM JUDICIAL PROCEEDING AND THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS SUCH AUTHORITY
01:59:19PM TO PROCEED.
01:59:19PM IF SO, WE ARE PREPARED TO PROCEED UNDER A RESERVATION OF
01:59:26PM RIGHTS ACCORDINGLY.
01:59:27PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
01:59:31PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:59:31PM IN REFERENCE TO THE LETTER SUBMITTED TO THE CITY ON MAY 13,
01:59:35PM 2025, NUMBER 7 OF THE LETTER.
01:59:39PM THE CITY DISAGREES WITH THE STATEMENTS IN NUMBER 7 AS NOTED
01:59:42PM IN FOOTNOTE NUMBER 3.
01:59:44PM ISSUE OF THE CIRCUIT COURT'S ORDER IS ON APPEAL IN THE
01:59:47PM SECOND DCA IN CASE NUMBER D-2024-2082.
01:59:55PM SINCE THE MATTER IS ON APPEAL AND OUR APPELLATE ARGUMENTS
02:00:00PM SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES THE CITY WILL NOT ADDRESS IT AND
02:00:02PM PREDICT HOW THE SECOND DCA WILL RULE ON THIS ISSUE.
02:00:06PM IF LITIGATION IS FILED, THE SUIT WILL BE VIGOROUSLY
02:00:10PM DEFENDED.
02:00:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNSELOR, YOUR OBJECTION IS NOTED FOR THE
02:00:14PM RECORD.
02:00:14PM IF I CAN, MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE HAS PROVIDED THE
02:00:17PM HEARING PROCEDURES FOR TODAY'S HEARING.
02:00:20PM AND THAT BEING THE CASE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AT THIS
02:00:24PM TIME TO ASK CITY COUNCIL TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY EX-PARTE
02:00:27PM WRITTEN DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED PURSUANT TO FLORIDA
02:00:31PM STATUTES.
02:00:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
02:00:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
02:00:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:00:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARDS TO -- SORRY, COUNCIL.
02:00:41PM WITH REGARDS TO THE TIME FRAMES SET FORTH, I BELIEVE THERE
02:00:46PM HAS BEEN A REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY, AND I
02:00:49PM BELIEVE, SIR, IF YOU WOULD JUST PUT THAT ON THE RECORD,
02:00:52PM PLEASE, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.
02:00:55PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:00:57PM TYLER HUDSON, 400 ASHLEY DRIVE.
02:01:01PM WE WOULD REQUEST EXTRA FIVE MINUTES FOR THE CASE IN CHIEF.
02:01:08PM WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE PETITIONER GETTING THE FIVE
02:01:11PM MINUTES.
02:01:11PM BUYER AND DEVELOPER WHICH IS MY CLIENT.
02:01:14PM WE ASK FOR FIVE ADDITIONAL MINUTES AND WOULD LIKE THAT
02:01:18PM RECIPROCALLY FOR MR. TRELA.
02:01:24PM >> I DON'T NEED AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTES.
02:01:25PM CAN I SAY I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE RULES INTACT AND LEAVE IT
02:01:31PM AT 15 MINUTES.
02:01:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WISH TO OBJECT TO IT, YOU CAN.
02:01:35PM AND THEN I WILL MAKE MY STATEMENT.
02:01:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO FORMALLY OBJECT TO IT.
02:01:40PM IF HE USE IT IS OR NOT.
02:01:42PM >> PETE TRELA, BAYSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
02:01:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I AM GOING TO READ RULE 6-B.
02:01:49PM REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TIME ONLY IF THE PARTICIPANT MAKING
02:01:53PM THE REQUEST ESTABLISHES TO THE SATISFACTION OF COUNCIL THAT
02:01:56PM ADDITIONAL TIME IS NECESSARY TO AFFORD PROCEDURAL DUE
02:02:00PM PROCESS.
02:02:00PM COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL BY A MAJORITY VOTE GRANT OR DENY THE
02:02:05PM VOTE IN THE ADDITIONAL TIME NECESSARY.
02:02:07PM IN THIS CASE, IT IS THE REQUEST OF FIVE MINUTES.
02:02:10PM IN THE EVENT A QUASI-JUDICIAL IS GIVEN ADDITIONAL TIME MAKE
02:02:16PM A PRESENTATION, THE PETITIONER, THE PARTY SEEKING REVIEW,
02:02:18PM MAY ALSO REQUEST ADDITIONAL TIME FOR PURPOSES OF REBUTTAL AS
02:02:22PM NECESSARY TO AFFORD PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS.
02:02:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SAY ASK -- HOLD THAT FIVE MINUTES
02:02:31PM IN RESERVE AND IF WE FEEL THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS THE
02:02:34PM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THIS CASE TO PROCEED TO PROVIDE
02:02:37PM DUE PROCESS, HE THE ABILITY TO GRANT THAT FIVE MINUTES AT
02:02:40PM THAT TIME.
02:02:40PM >> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT OF DUE PROCESS?
02:02:42PM THE PETITIONER MISNOTICED IN APPLICATION.
02:02:45PM WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE IN MARCH.
02:02:48PM WE ARE HERE IN MAY.
02:02:49PM MISTAKES HAPPEN.
02:02:51PM WE MISNOTICE.
02:02:53PM IT ALL HAPPENS.
02:02:54PM WE ARE TWO MONTHS DELAYED IN BEING HERE.
02:02:56PM FIVE MINUTES FOR TWO MONTHS?
02:02:58PM I THINK IT IS A FAIR TRADE.
02:02:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO GIVE HIM FIVE MINUTES.
02:03:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER
02:03:06PM CARLSON.
02:03:07PM YOU HAVE YOUR FIVE MINUTES.
02:03:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW I BELIEVE --
02:03:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYBODY GETS FIVE MINUTES.
02:03:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE, THE FLOOR.
02:03:15PM >> -- THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
02:03:23PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: HELLO, AGAIN, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
02:03:25PM FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:03:26PM I'M HERE ON ITEM 66 SU-1, 4456 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD.
02:03:34PM THE PETITIONER IN THIS CASE, AS I STATED BEFORE, AND HAS BEEN
02:03:37PM INTRODUCED AS AN AGGRIEVED PARTY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:03:41PM MR. PETER TRELA IS REPRESENTING THE AGGRIEVED PERSON.
02:03:45PM THE REQUEST FOR THIS ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS FOR A
02:03:49PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED TOWN HOME UNITS.
02:03:53PM STAFF APPROVED THE REQUESTS ON THE BASIS THAT IT MET THE TWO
02:03:56PM REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN CODE SECTION 27-132.
02:04:01PM THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED ON THE STAFF REPORT, AND THEY
02:04:05PM ARE ALSO IN YOUR PACKET.
02:04:06PM I PROVIDED, AS I SAID TO YOU BEFORE, A COPY OF CODE SECTION
02:04:12PM 27-61.
02:04:14PM STAFF HAS INCLUDED IN THEIR REPORT THE TWO REQUIREMENTS FOR
02:04:18PM CODE SECTION 27-132, WHICH ARE THEIR REGULATIONS GOVERNING
02:04:24PM INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL USES.
02:04:25PM CODE ELECTION 27-129 WHICH ARE THE GENERAL STANDARDS AND
02:04:29PM CODE SECTION 27-130 WHICH ARE THE CONDITIONS AND SAFEGUARDS.
02:04:34PM I ALSO PROVIDED SAMPLE MOTIONS AND AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE
02:04:38PM RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THIS MATTER.
02:04:40PM AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THE STATED REVIEW FOR THAT MATTER
02:04:45PM OF THIS REVIEW HEARING IS A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW IN CODE
02:04:50PM SECTION 27-61 SUBJECTION J-3.
02:04:54PM ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU ARE SITTING IN THE SHOES OF
02:04:57PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
02:04:58PM YOU CAN DETERMINE AFTER YOU HEAR ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT IS
02:05:04PM PRESENTED THIS AFTERNOON AND THE INFORMATION PREVIOUSLY
02:05:07PM PROVIDED FOR THIS APPLICATION ON WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS THE
02:05:10PM CRITERIA OF -- THE APPLICATION MEETS THE CRITERIA CODE
02:05:15PM SECTION 27-1 2.
02:05:17PM YOU CAN RECEIVE NEW EVIDENCE AT THIS HEARING.
02:05:20PM STAFF IS PRESENT.
02:05:21PM MISS LAURA MARLEY.
02:05:22PM SHE WILL GO OVER THE WHOLE -- THE ENTIRE DECISION AND THE
02:05:27PM BASIS FOR THE APPROVAL.
02:05:28PM AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE TWO
02:05:35PM ACTION ON THIS MATTER.
02:05:36PM CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
02:05:39PM ADMINISTRATOR AND, THEREFORE, DENY THE APPLICATION FOR
02:05:42PM THE SU-1.
02:05:44PM OR CITY COUNCIL CAN -- CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION AND,
02:05:51PM THEREFORE -- SORRY IF I SAID THAT IN REVERSE.
02:05:53PM CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE -- OF THE
02:05:57PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND, THEREFORE, DENY THE DECISION OR
02:06:00PM CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION, AND, THEREFORE, AFFIRM
02:06:04PM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WHO APPROVED
02:06:08PM THE SU-1 APPLICATION.
02:06:09PM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MISS MARLEY TO EXPLAIN THE
02:06:12PM APPLICATION.
02:06:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:06:17PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:06:18PM >>LAURA MARLEY: LAURA MARLEY, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
02:06:24PM ZONING COORDINATOR.
02:06:25PM ON MYLAR, SU 25-59.
02:06:33PM PROPERTY OWNER IS MR. TRELA.
02:06:37PM PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 4465 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD.
02:06:41PM AND THE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, CI.
02:06:44PM SPECIAL USE REQUEST WAS SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING
02:06:48PM UNITS.
02:06:48PM AND HERE IS THE PROPERTY.
02:06:55PM AND THERE ARE NO HISTORIC IN THE AREA.
02:06:58PM THIS IS THE OLD PLAT FROM 1995 OF THEIR COMMERCIAL
02:07:08PM SUBDIVISION.
02:07:08PM AND THIS IS THE ACCESS EASEMENT, ALSO RECORDED IN 1995.
02:07:14PM THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE
02:07:25PM APPLICATION.
02:07:28PM THEY THERE HAS BEEN A QUESTION ON HOW THIS WAS REVIEWED.
02:07:38PM IT WAS REVIEWED AS DWELLINGS, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
02:07:41PM I WON'T READ THE DEFINITION FOR YOU, BUT THAT IS HOW WE
02:07:44PM REVIEWED IT.
02:07:45PM THAT WAS ON WHAT WAS ON THE SITE PLAN.
02:07:47PM THEY DID ADD AN ADDITIONAL TOWN HOUSE STYLE, BUT THIS IS THE
02:07:52PM SECTION OF THE CODE THAT WE USE TO REVIEW IT.
02:07:55PM OKAY, THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
02:08:04PM THERE ARE TWO.
02:08:06PM THERE ARE TWO.
02:08:09PM THERE MUST HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO A MATERIAL OR COLLECTOR
02:08:13PM STREET AS SHOWN ON THE MAP.
02:08:19PM WHEN LOCATED OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL, THE SITE SHALL MEET THE
02:08:23PM DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE RS-24 ZONING DISTRICT AND
02:08:30PM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
02:08:31PM THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE
02:08:34PM REVIEW A SPECIAL USE.
02:08:35PM THIS IS -- THIS IS ALL THAT WE USE TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE IT.
02:08:39PM IF THERE ARE COMMENTS BY OTHER DIVISIONS AND DEPARTMENTS, THAT
02:08:45PM IS TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
02:08:49PM THE ONLY TWO CRITERIA THAT WE ARE USING TO BE ABLE TO
02:08:53PM APPROVE OR DENY AN APPLICATION.
02:08:55PM THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT A -- BE A CORRECTED ONE THAT SHOWS
02:09:15PM THE -- A CORRECTED ONE THAT SHOWS THE 25 FEET FROM OAKELLAR, AND
02:09:24PM THE 25 FEET FROM THE BOUNDARY --
02:09:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU MOVE THAT UP.
02:09:32PM WE CAN'T SEE THAT.
02:09:33PM >>LAURA MARLEY: MOVE THIS UP?
02:09:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST SLIDE THE PAPER UP.
02:09:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TOO FAR.
02:09:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.
02:09:49PM >>LAURA MARLEY: SO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT IS 25 FEET.
02:09:55PM THEY DO HAVE 25 FEET HERE.
02:09:58PM THAT THE END OF ANY PRESENTATION.
02:10:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:10:17PM ANY QUESTIONS?
02:10:18PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:10:18PM WHO IS UP NEXT?
02:10:27PM SIR?
02:10:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PETITIONER IS UP NEXT.
02:10:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS GENTLEMAN COMES UP FIRST.
02:10:32PM GO AHEAD.
02:10:32PM >> PETE TRELA, BAYSIDE WEST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
02:10:36PM CAN WE HAVE THIS REFLECT THE 20?
02:10:40PM NOW WE HAVE GOT SOME TIME TO BECOME GOOD FRIENDS.
02:10:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU NEVER KNOW.
02:10:44PM SET IT FOR 20 MINUTES.
02:10:46PM >> PROCEDURAL TIME, ANY TIME LEFT OVER, CAN I RESERVE THAT
02:10:50PM FOR MY REBUTTAL?
02:10:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WHY NOT.
02:10:53PM I WILL DO THE SAME FOR THE OTHER PARTY.
02:10:55PM >> COUNCIL, THANK YOU.
02:10:57PM REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION, ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SPEAK IN
02:11:00PM FRONT OF YOU.
02:11:02PM I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS WHAT YOU DO.
02:11:04PM AS A YOUNGER MAN, I ASPIRED TO DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND LIFE
02:11:09PM TAKES YOU DIFFERENT WAYS AND AVENUES.
02:11:11PM ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND PART
02:11:17PM OF THAT IS TO BE HERE AND SPEAK FOR OUR BAYSIDE WEST
02:11:21PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:11:21PM TALKING OF 24-98.
02:11:25PM FIRST THING I WANTED TO DO WAS SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR
02:11:29PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:11:29PM SOUTHWEST CONNOR NORTH OF GANDY OFF WEST SHORE MANHATTAN
02:11:38PM NORTH OF EUCLID.
02:11:38PM WE HAVE 5,000 RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN OUR BAYSIDE
02:11:42PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:11:42PM CONSISTENCY OF SINGLE-FAMILY BUNGALOW FROM THE 1950s AND
02:11:46PM 1960s.
02:11:47PM WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION OCCURRING OR THE
02:11:51PM NORTH END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THE PROPERTIES THAT ABUT
02:11:55PM THIS ARE ONE-STORY HOMES.
02:11:56PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS LONGSTANDING UNTIL THE
02:12:02PM PRESIDENT UNFORTUNATELY HAD PASSED AND REESTABLISHED THE
02:12:04PM NEIGHBORHOOD IN 2021.
02:12:05PM PART OF DOING THAT WAS DUE TO MR. LUM.
02:12:08PM MR. LUM.
02:12:14PM NOT SURE HOW IT CAME ABOUT BUT WE ORGANIZED A MEETING IN 4465 WEST
02:12:20PM GANDY.
02:12:20PM WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT.
02:12:22PM 40 OF OUR NEIGHBORS CAME.
02:12:23PM AND UNFORTUNATELY THE PRESENTATION FELL FLAT.
02:12:25PM IT WAS ALMOST LIKE THEY WERE DOING US A FAVOR BY BRINGING IN
02:12:30PM HUNDREDS OF MICRO APARTMENTS RIGHT AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
02:12:36PM AND TAKING AWAY A BREWERY WE ALL CONGREGATE AT.
02:12:40PM A GYM WHEN IT WAS MAINTAINED WAS WONDERFUL PLACE FOR HEALTH
02:12:44PM AND COMMUNITY GATHERING.
02:12:47PM SALLY'S, FOR OUR BETTER HALVES TO GET THEIR HAIR PRODUCTS.
02:12:53PM A LOT OF GOOD RETAIL THERE THAT ANYONE WHO PURCHASED THEIR
02:12:56PM HOME BETWEEN 2018 AND PREVIOUSLY KNEW THAT.
02:13:00PM WE WERE PURCHASING WITH A GIANT RETAIL PIECE OF PROPERTY
02:13:03PM AND SOMETHING THAT ADDED VALUE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:13:06PM WE TALK SO MUCH OF WALKING.
02:13:08PM WE WANT WALKABLE AREAS.
02:13:10PM THIS PROPERTY WILL DO THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE ARE
02:13:12PM REALLY STRIVING TO DO.
02:13:14PM AND THERE IS REALLY NO TRUE POSITIVE INTRINSICAL VALUE.
02:13:24PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS TO HAPPEN, BUT NO WALKABLE PLACES FOR
02:13:28PM PEOPLE TO BE EMPLOYED DOWN THERE.
02:13:29PM THEY WILL HAVE TO CAKE THE CROSSTOWN.
02:13:31PM COSTS MONEY.
02:13:32PM ONE BUS STOP.
02:13:33PM NO BUS STOPS ON GANDY BUT ONE ON MANHATTAN.
02:13:37PM OTHER BIG PIECE TOO IS THE ACCESS.
02:13:39PM TWO THINGS I WANT TO BRING UP BEFORE WE GET INTO THE
02:13:43PM PRESENTATION.
02:13:43PM THE FIRST THING IS THAT BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNER 4465 GANDY
02:13:48PM PARTNERS AND GLF HAVE THE EXACT SAME ADDRESS.
02:13:52PM SAME EXACT SUITE NUMBERS.
02:13:54PM WE SENT CERTIFIED MAIL, WE DIDN'T ASKED FOR IT TO BE
02:13:59PM REQUIRED SIGNING.
02:13:59PM ANYONE WHO RECEIVED IT AT THAT ADDRESS COULD SIGN FOR IT.
02:14:02PM THROUGH DEDUCTIVE REASONING THAT ALL PARTIES WOULD HAVE BEEN
02:14:10PM AWARE THAT WE FILED FOR PETITION WITH THIS.
02:14:12PM NOW LET'S TALK OF DEVELOPMENT.
02:14:15PM WE KNOW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
02:14:16PM WE WANT IT TO HAPPEN.
02:14:18PM IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY IN AN AREA OF TOWN THAT COULD USE
02:14:22PM A NICE UPLIFTING.
02:14:23PM I KNOW A LOT MORE PARTS OF TOWN THAT CAN USE A LOT MORE LOVE
02:14:26PM THAN OUR AREA.
02:14:27PM WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
02:14:28PM WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY WORKED WITH THREE DEVELOPERS WHO
02:14:31PM APPROACHED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWING THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD
02:14:33PM A LOT MORE DENSITY IN OUR AREA.
02:14:36PM THEY TOOK OUR FEEDBACK AND USED OUR FEEDBACK AND
02:14:40PM RECIPROCATED AND KEPT IN COMMUNICATION WITH OUR
02:14:43PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:14:43PM IN ALL OF THOSE THREE DEVELOPMENTS, WE DID NOT OPPOSE THEM
02:14:46PM TO BUILDING THIS.
02:14:48PM CASA DEL MAR.
02:14:49PM 100-UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT IS RIGHT ON THE
02:14:53PM CORNER RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE JAN PLATT LIBRARY.
02:14:56PM BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.
02:14:58PM WE ASKED TO EXTEND SIDEWALK TO SIX FEET.
02:15:01PM THEY DID.
02:15:02PM MAKE SURE PARKING IS NOT ON THE ACCESS ROADS.
02:15:05PM CAN WE HAVE IT BEHIND?
02:15:06PM THEY DID.
02:15:07PM LENNAR.
02:15:08PM THIS TOWN HOMES AT CROSSING.
02:15:09PM FOR DOWN A BEAUTIFUL OLD CHURCH.
02:15:11PM WE ASKED THEM, CAN YOU MAINTAIN SOME OF THE TREES?
02:15:15PM THEY MAINTAINED MORE TREES THAN WE EVER COULD IMAGINE.
02:15:18PM CAN YOU MAKE SURE THE SIDEWALKS ARE A LITTLE BIT LONGER?
02:15:20PM THEY DID THAT
02:15:21PM FOLKS PULLING OUT CAN GO RIGHT-HAND ONLY WHERE THERE IS A
02:15:25PM PEDESTRIAN LIGHT.
02:15:28PM THEY DID THAT.
02:15:29PM EVERY SINGLE REQUEST THEY WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS.
02:15:32PM WE UNDERSTAND NOT ALL THE REQUESTS WILL BE ACCEPTED AND DONE
02:15:35PM WITH, WELL, SADLY, THIS DEVELOPMENT AND EVERY PROPERTY IN
02:15:41PM DEVELOPMENT THAT MR. LUM HAS BROUGHT FORWARD, ALL OF OUR
02:15:44PM FEEDBACK HAS FALLEN FLAT.
02:15:46PM I NEVER SPOKEN TO MR. LUM OUTSIDE OF THAT FIRST MEETING IN
02:15:50PM 2021 FROM THE HOLD NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:15:53PM I HEAR THAT HE IS GOING TO REACH OUT.
02:15:56PM HE IS GOING TO CALL YOU.
02:15:57PM NEVER HEARD A WORD.
02:15:58PM NOW MOVING ON TO THE REST OF -- WE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS AS
02:16:03PM PART OF THE MATTER.
02:16:04PM ONE ADDRESS LISTED ON THE ACTUAL APPLICATION.
02:16:10PM THIS WAS SEPTEMBER 24.
02:16:11PM YOU CAN SKIP THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE SEPTEMBER 24 WHEN
02:16:18PM THIS WAS FILED, WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED UNTIL OCTOBER 28 TO MEET
02:16:23PM WITH SOMEONE.
02:16:24PM A WHOLE MONTH PASSED BEFORE WE WERE EVEN MADE AWARE THEIR
02:16:27PM THIS FILING OCCURRED.
02:16:28PM THEY DIDN'T REACH OUT TO ME.
02:16:30PM BUT REACHED OUT TO OUR WONDERFUL FRIENDS STEPHANIE POYNOR
02:16:35PM AND CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
02:16:38PM WEST BAY HOMES.
02:16:39PM BRIAN LEBLANC, THE MAIN PARTY REPRESENTING THEM.
02:16:45PM WE SHARED REDUCING ACCESS.
02:16:52PM WE DON'T NEED 300 OR 400 CARS TO ARE NO SIDEWALKS TO ENTER
02:16:58PM AND EXIT.
02:16:58PM WITHOUT SIDEWALKS, OUR CHILDREN PLAY IN THE STREET.
02:17:01PM I RUN IN THE STREET.
02:17:02PM RIDE BIKES.
02:17:03PM THE STREET IS UNFORTUNATELY WHERE WE HAVE TO CONGREGATE
02:17:08PM BASED ON HOW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SET UP.
02:17:10PM REDUCE THE BUILDINGS FACING OUR PROPERTY TO TWO STORIES.
02:17:13PM I REMEMBER SITTING HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO TALKING OF THE
02:17:16PM PROPERTY OVER BY THE YMCA UP ON -- WHAT IS THAT AREA,
02:17:22PM ARMATURE WORKS.
02:17:23PM A PROPERTY THERE.
02:17:24PM I REMEMBER THE DEVELOPER -- REDUCED EACH STORY AS THEY GOT
02:17:30PM CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:17:30PM I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE REQUEST.
02:17:32PM FELL ON DEAF EARS.
02:17:34PM WE WANT TO INCREASE THE PARKING SPACE.
02:17:36PM THE GARAGE SIZE IS ABSOLUTELY DEFICIENT.
02:17:39PM IF YOU ARE PARKING GOLF CARTS, HOPE THEY ARE GOLF CARTS.
02:17:47PM BECAUSE GOOD LUCK OPENING THE DOOR.
02:17:48PM SIX OF THE SPOTS ARE ENCROACHING OVER THE PROPERTY LINE.
02:17:51PM THOSE SIX SPOTS WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO USE BECAUSE IT IS
02:17:55PM NOT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
02:17:55PM YOU CAN REMOVE SIX SPOTS ALREADY FROM THE VISITOR PARKING.
02:17:59PM DRIVEWAY LENGTH.
02:18:02PM JUST FOR SHOW.
02:18:03PM SEVEN TO 12 FEET LONG.
02:18:04PM A TOYOTA COROLLA IS 15.
02:18:08PM IF THEY PARK HORIZONTALLY WHICH THEY CAN, WE EXPECT PARKING
02:18:12PM TO SPILL OUT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND A MAJOR CONCERN FOR
02:18:14PM US FOR NOT HAVING SIDEWALKS.
02:18:16PM IMPERVIOUS LAND.
02:18:17PM WE WERE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BY BOTH
02:18:22PM HURRICANES MILTON AND HELENE.
02:18:23PM 70% OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAD WATER INTRUSION.
02:18:26PM SOME OF THEM ARE JUST NOW MOVING BACK INTO THEIR
02:18:29PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:18:29PM COVERING MORE LAND THAT HANDLE THE TYPE OF RAIN THAT OCCURS
02:18:33PM IN OUR AREA IS NO BENEFIT TO ANYONE AT ALL.
02:18:35PM REDUCING THE -- REDUCING THE IMPERVIOUS LAND WAS ONE BIG
02:18:39PM THING WE PUSHED FOR.
02:18:41PM REDUCING THE DENSITY.
02:18:42PM MAN, WE ARE SQUEEZING EVERY INCH OUT OF THIS PROPERTY.
02:18:45PM IT IS MEETING EXPECTATION RIGHT TO THE MINIMUM.
02:18:48PM THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
02:18:51PM TO MEET EXPECTATIONS.
02:18:53PM NEIGHBORHOOD ADDRESSES THEIR CONCERNS AND THE CONCERNS WERE
02:18:56PM NOT TAKEN IN GOOD FAITH.
02:18:58PM LASTLY, IMPROVE THE GREEN SPACE.
02:19:00PM THIS IS A GIANT PARKING LOT BEHIND IT.
02:19:02PM WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO
02:19:06PM LIVE THERE.
02:19:07PM THEY WILL BE PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:19:09PM WE WANT THEM TO ENJOY THE AREA THEY ARE LIVING BY HAVING
02:19:13PM MORE SPACE.
02:19:13PM LET'S GO WITH THE DECISION.
02:19:15PM UNDERSTAND TWO SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS ONLY
02:19:18PM LOOKING AT.
02:19:19PM WE HAD 39 LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
02:19:21PM SO IS IT A POINT TO SAY WHEN WE HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
02:19:28PM NO POINT SENDING OPPOSITION WHEN ONLY TWO THINGS WILL BE
02:19:32PM ADDRESSED WITH THAT.
02:19:33PM A POINT TO THINK ABOUT.
02:19:34PM ONLY ONE CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMENT.
02:19:36PM ONE.
02:19:37PM FOUR WERE INCONSISTENT AND THE OTHER FOUR WAS CONSISTENT
02:19:43PM WITH -- I FORGET THE TERM -- CONSISTENT WITH, LIKE,
02:19:46PM COMPLETIONS OR QUALIFICATIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
02:19:48PM AND WE HAD A LETTER, A LETTER THAT ACTUALLY HOW WE READ IT
02:19:57PM FROM THE URBAN PLANNER -- YOU CAN TAKE YOUR OWN FROM IT,
02:20:01PM THAT MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
02:20:04PM MAYBE THERE IS A BETTER WITH A TOY HAVE THIS REZONED.
02:20:08PM HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT GET APPROVED.
02:20:10PM ONE OF THE THINGS TO HAVE DIRECT ACCESS FOR ARTERIAL AND
02:20:15PM COMMUTER STREET DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS.
02:20:17PM IT HAS CROSS ACCESS.
02:20:18PM IT HAS TO CROSS TWO PARCELS TO MAKE IT TO GANDY BOULEVARD.
02:20:22PM OTHERWISE THE ONLY DIRECT ACCESS THEY HAVE IS ON A
02:20:25PM RESIDENTIAL STREET, OAKELLAR AVENUE.
02:20:27PM SO I AM NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT CAME ACROSS OF BEING
02:20:31PM CONSISTENT CONSIDERING THE DEFINITIONS DON'T MEET WHAT WAS
02:20:34PM REVIEWED IN TERMS OF THE SITE PLAN.
02:20:39PM THE SITE PLAN HEAD SOMETHING MISLABELED.
02:20:43PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOUSE STYLE USAGE, 27-2810 WAS IN
02:20:50PM CONFLICT WITH THE HEADING THAT READ MULTIFAMILY TOWN
02:20:53PM HOUSE STANDARDS.
02:20:54PM SITE WITHIN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PURSUANT TO 27-132.
02:20:59PM MUST HAVE ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR STREET.
02:21:02PM IT HAS CROSS ACCESS.
02:21:04PM NO DIRECT ACCESS AND THE DWELLING UNITS ARE NOT STACKED
02:21:07PM VERTICALLY ABOVE EACH OTHER AND THE ATTACHED SIDES AND THE
02:21:10PM REAL WORLD IN BOTH.
02:21:12PM CONFLICT WITH 27-43.
02:21:14PM THE OTHER DEFICIENCIES.
02:21:21PM SECTION 27-43.
02:21:26PM UNITS ARE NOT BY SIDE WALLS ONLY AND DO NOT FIT THE
02:21:30PM DEFINITIONS OF MULTIFAMILY USE AND MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOUSE
02:21:35PM STYLE.
02:21:35PM DO NOT FACE COURTYARDS AND THE DESIGN STANDARD IT WAS NOT
02:21:42PM ADDRESSED AS REQUIRED PER SECTION 27-289.
02:21:46PM THESE ARE GOING TO BE FOUR-STORY BUILDINGS WITH A ROOFTOP
02:21:56PM THAT WILL BE OVERLOOKING SINGLE-STORY, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
02:22:00PM ZERO RENDERINGS OF ANY TREES BEING PLANTED ON THIS PROPERTY.
02:22:04PM DRIVEWAY LENGTH IS DEFICIENT.
02:22:07PM THE GARAGES ARE TOO SMALL.
02:22:09PM SIX OF THE VISITOR SPOTS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE BECAUSE IT IS NOT
02:22:13PM ON THEIR PROPERTY.
02:22:14PM ONLY ONE ADA-DESIGNATED PARKING SPOT ON THEIR SITE PLAN.
02:22:19PM AND NO DOOR ON THE GARAGE TIDE.
02:22:21PM UNLESS THEY WALK THROUGH THE GARAGE, NO WAY TO ENTER OR EXIT
02:22:25PM THEIR HOME FACING THE DRIVEWAYS NOW THIS IS WHERE IT REALLY
02:22:34PM HURTS US.
02:22:34PM A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHO LIVES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
02:22:38PM ENDED UP TAKING ON TWO FEET OF WATER IN HIS HOME.
02:22:41PM HE IS ONE OF THOSE FOLKS I MENTIONED THAT ARE GETTING BACK.
02:22:45PM HE HAS 12-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND THEY BOTH REALLY STRUGGLED
02:22:48PM WITH TIME AWAY TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE.
02:22:51PM THANKFULLY, THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER AND GAVE THEM A NICE
02:22:56PM PLACE TO COMFORTABLY TO LIVE THEIR LIVES.
02:22:59PM THIS BEING IN A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND AN EVACUATION
02:23:05PM ZONE, WE ARE HURTING OURSELVES.
02:23:07PM THE LARGE SECTION OF HOMES WERE FLOODED.
02:23:11PM FOUR OF THE NINE WERE CONSISTENT WITH CONDITIONS.
02:23:15PM THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR AND FOUR WERE INCONSISTENT, THE
02:23:18PM ONES THAT CAN REALLY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:23:20PM STORMWATER, SOLID WASTE, TRANSPORTATION, RIGHT-OF-WAY.
02:23:22PM THESE THINGS MATTER.
02:23:24PM SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A RENDERING THAT
02:23:31PM WILL BE PRESENTED TODAY.
02:23:33PM BEAUTIFUL IS IT?
02:23:34PM I ACTUALLY AGREE.
02:23:35PM BUT THE ONE THING I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD APPRECIATE ARE
02:23:40PM THOSE ROOFTOPS LOOKING INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.
02:23:43PM THESE AREN'T THE BIG McMANSIONS THAT I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN
02:23:46PM COINED WHERE THEY ARE LITERALLY ABUTTING THE PROPERTY LINE
02:23:50PM OVERLOOKING FOLKS' BACKYARDS.
02:23:52PM THESE ARE FOUR STORIES.
02:23:53PM WE ARE TALKING OF TEN HOMES DOWN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK
02:23:58PM INSIDE PEOPLE'S HOMES AND PROPERTY.
02:24:01PM DOESN'T FIT THE STYLE AND WE ARE NOT ASKING THEM TO DELIVER
02:24:04PM IT EXACTLY THE WAY WE WANT IT.
02:24:05PM WE WANT REASONABLE.
02:24:06PM TWO-STORY FACING THESE HOMES SEEMS LIKE A VERY REASONABLE
02:24:10PM REQUEST CONSIDERING OTHER DEVELOPERS HAVE DONE IT AT A MUCH
02:24:13PM BIGGER SCALE AND I SAT HERE TO HEAR THEM DO THAT.
02:24:17PM I WILL SAVE THIS LAST PIECE FOR LATER.
02:24:26PM WE WANT TO WORK.
02:24:29PM WE ARE NOT FIGHTING ANYONE.
02:24:30PM I THINK WE WANT SOMETHING THAT WE ALL CAN ACCEPT.
02:24:33PM THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEIR MONEY.
02:24:34PM WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
02:24:35PM WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT INVESTED HOURS AND MONEY AND
02:24:38PM REALLY, TRULY, THE ONLY BENEFIT IS, THAT THE DEVELOPERS HEAR
02:24:43PM US.
02:24:43PM THEY KNOW HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT THIS CAN HAVE ON ALL OF US.
02:24:48PM AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS HAS NOT COME TO FRUITION.
02:24:52PM SO I ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE TAKE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE
02:24:57PM DISCUSSED INTO ACCOUNT.
02:24:58PM THERE ARE A FEW MORE SPEAKERS THAT WILL COME UP AND SHARE
02:25:01PM SOME OTHER CONCERNS AND ISSUES THAT I HAVEN'T ADDRESSED.
02:25:04PM AND I AM SURE OUR OTHER PARTIES WILL BRING UP SOME AREAS
02:25:09PM THAT MAY HAVE THEIR OWN VALUE.
02:25:10PM BUT AS WE ARE STANDING HERE TODAY, THE ONE THING I CAN SAY
02:25:15PM IS THIS NEVER SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS WENT
02:25:18PM THROUGH.
02:25:19PM THIS ABSOLUTELY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL.
02:25:21PM THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY THINGS AND THIS IS WAY TOO COMPLEX
02:25:25PM FOR ONE SINGULAR DEPARTMENT TO MAKE A RULE THAT CAN IMPACT A
02:25:29PM NEIGHBORHOOD SO SIGNIFICANTLY WITH SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT
02:25:33PM JUST AREN'T COMING TO PASS.
02:25:35PM COUNCIL, I THANK YOU.
02:25:37PM I RESERVE MY TIME RIGHT WHERE I THOUGHT I WOULD BE.
02:25:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH TIME DOES THE GENTLEMAN HAVE
02:25:45PM LEFT?
02:25:46PM >> FIVE MINUTES.
02:25:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL PUT IT HERE IF NEED BE AND THE
02:25:49PM SAME WILL HAPPEN WITH THE OTHER SIDE.
02:25:50PM YES, MA'AM.
02:25:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN DO WE -- DO WE ASK QUESTIONS AT EACH
02:25:55PM POINT?
02:25:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER NOW SPEAK.
02:25:59PM AND 20 MINUTES AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT, ADDITION ALE STAFF,
02:26:03PM AND THEN REBUTTAL.
02:26:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SAYS QUESTIONS BY CITY COUNCIL.
02:26:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS.
02:26:14PM GO AHEAD.
02:26:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS DOESN'T CUT INTO ANYBODY'S TIME FROM MY
02:26:21PM UNDERSTANDING.
02:26:22PM CAN -- I AM CURIOUS.
02:26:24PM COULD THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST SPOKE PULL UP THE -- THE PART
02:26:30PM OF YOUR PRESENTATION THAT HAS THE E-MAIL -- FROM WHOMEVER
02:26:37PM THAT PERSON WAS.
02:26:52PM >> YES, FROM ELIJAH GREEN.
02:26:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS FROM OCTOBER 17.
02:26:57PM CAN WE HAVE ELIJAH GREEN COME UP?
02:27:15PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
02:27:16PM ELIJAH GREEN WAS NOT THE ONE PRESENTING ON THE APPEAL.
02:27:21PM IT IS MISS MARLEY IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM LAND
02:27:28PM DEVELOPMENT.
02:27:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THIS PERSON IS THE ONE THAT WROTE IT?
02:27:31PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT.
02:27:31PM I DON'T BELIEVE HE CONDUCTED THE REVIEW OF THE S-1.
02:27:36PM WHAT IS BEFORE IS YOU A S-1.
02:27:39PM THAT WAS THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT WENT TO ONE OF THE PLANNERS
02:27:43PM IN IT THE OFFICE ASKING ABOUT THE ACCESS.
02:27:44PM THAT WAS ANSWERED, BUT THAT IS NOT THE INDIVIDUAL REVIEWING
02:27:48PM THE APPLICATION.
02:27:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I GUESS I WILL ASK THE STAFF PERSON OR ASK
02:27:53PM YOU.
02:27:53PM WHO DID THE REVIEW?
02:27:56PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: LAURA'S STAFF DID.
02:27:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WHO, AND ARE THEY HERE?
02:28:05PM >> JUST --
02:28:09PM >>LAURA MARLEY: LAURA MARLEY.
02:28:11PM THE APPLICATION WAS REVIEWED BY ALL OF STAFF AND LAND
02:28:15PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:28:15PM USUALLY NOT DONE BY THE SINGLE PERSON.
02:28:19PM HE IS THE PERSON THAT SIGNED THE LETTER, CORRECT.
02:28:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THEN IT IS HIM.
02:28:25PM >>LAURA MARLEY: HE SIGNED THE APPROVAL LETTER.
02:28:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHERE IS HE?
02:28:31PM >>LAURA MARLEY: HE IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO
02:28:33PM THAT E-MAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO.
02:28:35PM HE IS ONE OF OUR NEWER PLANNERS.
02:28:37PM AND THE PROCESS FOR THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION IS A SPECIAL
02:28:41PM USE ONE.
02:28:41PM A LOT OF THE TIMES THE PLANNER SEES APPLICATIONS THAT
02:28:46PM LOOK A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX AND THINK THAT POSSIBLY THEY
02:28:49PM SHOULD GO THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROCESS, BUT THE PROCESS THAT
02:28:53PM THIS APPLICATION SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH IS A SPECIAL USE
02:28:57PM PROCESS.
02:28:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:29:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:29:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PIQUED MY INTEREST.
02:29:13PM WAS HE ASKED TO APPEAR TODAY?
02:29:16PM >>LAURA MARLEY: TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HE WAS NOT.
02:29:17PM I AM USUALLY THE -- I AM HIS SUPERVISOR, AND I AM THE ONE
02:29:21PM THAT DOES THE APPEALS.
02:29:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE PREPARE THESE CASE, MR. SHELBY, DOES
02:29:27PM THE APPELLANT HAVE -- HAVE A SUBPOENA TYPE OF LIST?
02:29:31PM HOW DOES THAT WORK?
02:29:33PM DO THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ASK FOR THE WITNESS THAT
02:29:36PM THEY NEED?
02:29:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY EXPERIENCE, NO ISSUANCE OF SUBPOENAS
02:29:47PM HERE.
02:29:47PM WITNESSES ARE PROVIDED.
02:29:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A LIST THAT YOU PROVIDED FOR PEOPLE THAT
02:29:54PM YOU WANTED TO BE HERE?
02:29:55PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
02:29:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:29:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS IS NOT AN INTERNAL
02:30:00PM MEAL.
02:30:00PM THIS WENT TO THE APPLICANT.
02:30:01PM >> THIS WAS ON ACELA.
02:30:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
02:30:07PM >> BAYSIDE WEST.
02:30:09PM WE PULLED THIS FROM ACELA.
02:30:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I AM SAYING IS -- I AM SORRY, I AM STILL
02:30:16PM LEARNING NAMES.
02:30:16PM I AM GO TO HAVE TO LEARN YOUR NAME AGAIN.
02:30:18PM >>LAURA MARLEY: LAURA MARLEY.
02:30:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS MARLEY.
02:30:24PM SO MISS MARLEY, YOU SAID THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT FOLKS
02:30:31PM DO INTERNALLY. THIS IS NOT AN INTERNAL E-MAIL.
02:30:34PM >>LAURA MARLEY: LET ME EXPLAIN MYSELF.
02:30:36PM USUALLY, WE HAVE MEETINGS INTERNALLY WITH ALL OF STAFF. THIS
02:30:41PM E-MAIL WAS NOT COPIED BY ME.
02:30:43PM I DIDN'T KNOW THIS E-MAIL WENT OUT.
02:30:45PM WHEN I SAW THE E-MAIL WENT OUT, WE DISCUSSED IT.
02:30:50PM THEY COULD GONE THROUGH A PD.
02:30:53PM THEY COULD HAVE, BUT SPECIAL USE ONE, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO
02:30:56PM GO THROUGH A SPECIAL USE ONE.
02:30:58PM THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW WITH THE
02:31:03PM SPECIAL USE ONE.
02:31:04PM THAT IS THE CORRECT PROCESS.
02:31:05PM THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPLY TO DIFFERENT ONES BUT ALLOWED
02:31:08PM TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE ONE.
02:31:13PM I THINK HIS WAS MORE OF A SUGGESTION, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW OF
02:31:18PM THIS E-MAIL UNTIL AFTER THE FACT.
02:31:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHO IS LISA MIDDLETON.
02:31:26PM >>LAURA MARLEY: ONE OUR PERMIT TECHNICIANS AND DOES THE
02:31:30PM INTAKE AND ROUTES IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
02:31:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MISS MARLEY --
02:31:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: MISS MARLEY, IF I CAN ASK YOU AGAIN.
02:31:42PM WHEN YOU DISCOVERED THIS E-MAIL HAS BEEN SENT, DID YOU
02:31:45PM MEET AS A GROUP AND PUT IN DOCUMENTATION OR SEND IN A
02:31:50PM RETRACTION TO THE APPLICANT?
02:31:51PM IS THERE ANY KIND OF DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU REVERSED OR SAID
02:31:55PM THIS WAS A MISTAKE OR SOMETHING?
02:31:57PM >>LAURA MARLEY: NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
02:31:59PM WE CONTACTED THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY CONTACTED -- I
02:32:03PM BELIEVE THEY CONTACTED ERIC AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WHY WERE WE
02:32:07PM SENT THIS E-MAIL?
02:32:08PM AND HE SAID TO CONFIRM YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT PROCESS, THE
02:32:13PM SPECIAL USE ONE.
02:32:13PM SO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANYTHING ACTUALLY FORMALLY PUT
02:32:17PM IN ACELA, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS.
02:32:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ELIJAH GREEN
02:32:26PM HERE.
02:32:26PM I AGREE WITH THAT.
02:32:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:32:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GUESS IF WE CAN'T HAVE MR. GREEN,
02:32:39PM CAN ERIC COTTON TO SPEAK TO THAT?
02:32:43PM >>LAURA MARLEY: HE IS NOT IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
02:32:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS CONVENIENT.
02:32:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:32:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO MEANS OF INTERVIEWING MR. GREEN.
02:33:00PM MAYBE HE ZOOMS IN AN HOUR OR TWO, TWO OR THREE OR FOUR.
02:33:05PM >>LAURA MARLEY: I AM NOT SURE WHAT ELSE HE WILL BE ABLE TO
02:33:08PM TELL YOU THAN WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU.
02:33:10PM IT WAS -- IT WAS INCORRECT THAT HE TOLD THEM TO GO THROUGH
02:33:14PM A PD.
02:33:14PM THAT WAS AN INCORRECT STATEMENT.
02:33:17PM SPECIAL USE ONE IS THE CORRECT PROCESS.
02:33:21PM MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK ON WHAT DISCUSSIONS HAVE
02:33:23PM HAPPENED, BUT THAT WAS AN INCORRECT STATEMENT.
02:33:26PM THEY ARE IN THE CORRECT PROCESS.
02:33:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST SAY THAT IN CASE WE DON'T SPEND 20
02:33:32PM MINUTES ON THIS ISSUE.
02:33:33PM IF THAT CAN BE EXPEDITED, THAT IS FINE.
02:33:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND CLENDENIN.
02:33:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: TO FOLLOW-UP.
02:33:41PM YOU SAID HE WAS A NEW PLANNER.
02:33:43PM SOME INTERNAL DOCUMENTATION THAT SAID JUST TO PUT IT IN
02:33:47PM WRITING, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.
02:33:49PM YOU DIDN'T GET THE AUTHORITY OF THE OPINION AND THIS IS NOT
02:33:52PM OUR OFFICIAL OPINION.
02:33:53PM YOU DID THIS WRONG.
02:33:54PM SOME DOCUMENTATION.
02:33:55PM >>LAURA MARLEY: NOT DOCUMENTATION.
02:33:56PM JUST VERBAL COUNSELING.
02:33:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: RECORD OF THE VERBAL COUNSELING SOMEWHERE?
02:34:02PM >>LAURA MARLEY: NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
02:34:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:34:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO NOT WANT TO BEAT THIS DEAD HORSE, SO
02:34:10PM -- IS THIS HORSE ALREADY DEAD?
02:34:12PM THE -- THE LETTER THAT I AM READING HAS COUPLE OF POINTS.
02:34:19PM ONE POINT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU AS A
02:34:23PM REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY AND THE OFFICIAL POSITION IS.
02:34:26PM SO THIS STATES THAT A SPECIAL USE APPLICATION IS NOT -- IS
02:34:38PM NOT APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE SITE DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS
02:34:41PM TO ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR ROAD ON THE STREET MAP.
02:34:47PM ARE YOU SAYING THAT STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE?
02:34:50PM >>LAURA MARLEY: CORRECT.
02:34:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN HAVE A SPECIAL USE EVEN THOUGH
02:34:54PM ACCORDING TO SIT NOT ON A MAYOR ARTERIAL ROAD.
02:34:58PM >>LAURA MARLEY: THE INGRESS AND EGRESS EASEMENT IS THE
02:35:02PM DIRECT ACCESS TO GANDY.
02:35:03PM SO THE CODE DOESN'T SAY IT HAS TO HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE.
02:35:13PM DIRECT ACCESS.
02:35:14PM THAT INGRESS-EGRESS HAS DIRECT ACCESS.
02:35:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN YOUR INTERPRETATION AS A REPRESENTATIVE
02:35:20PM TO THE CITY, THE PARCEL HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL
02:35:24PM ROAD OR COLLECTOR STREET SHOWN OFTEN THE MAP WHICH WILL MAKE
02:35:28PM THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION APPROPRIATE.
02:35:32PM >>LAURA MARLEY: CORRECT.
02:35:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:35:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU SHOW ME ON A MAP WHERE IT IS AT?
02:35:41PM SHOW ME ON THE SITE PLAN?
02:35:55PM >>LAURA MARLEY: THIS RIGHT HERE WITH THE ACCESS ROAD AND THE
02:35:58PM COMMERCIAL PLAT.
02:35:59PM THE COMMERCIAL PLAT AND THE RECORDED DOCUMENT THAT SHOW THIS
02:36:14PM INGRESS AND EGRESS ACCESS ROAD.
02:36:16PM AND THIS DOWN HERE IS GANDY BOULEVARD.
02:36:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, CAN YOU SHOW THIS ON AN ACTUAL MAP.
02:36:26PM BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE THAT -- I CAN'T TELL.
02:36:30PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I MAY, FOR JUST A MOMENT.
02:36:36PM THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PLAT.
02:36:36PM A COMMERCIAL PLAT WHERE YOU HAVE SIX COMMERCIAL PARCELS THAT
02:36:41PM HAD A PLATTED ACCESS TO THEM.
02:36:44PM EACH OF THE COMMERCIAL LOTS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO HAVE ACCESS
02:36:47PM THROUGH THAT PLAT.
02:36:48PM SO SUFFICIENT APPLEBEES THERE.
02:36:51PM THE CUT DRIVE-THRU.
02:36:55PM YOU HAVE THE OLD CHURCH PARCELS.
02:36:57PM THOSE WERE THE PARCELS.
02:36:59PM WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED FOR THE COMMERCIAL USES,
02:37:03PM PLATTED WITH THAT MAIN DRIVE AS THE ACCESS.
02:37:05PM SO UNLIKE WHERE YOU ARE USED SEEING A LOT THAT GOES DIRECTLY
02:37:10PM TO A STREET OR HAS FRONTAGE ON THAT STREET THAT WE DEEM AS
02:37:14PM THE ACCESS, THIS IS A PLATTED ACCESS THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL
02:37:18PM PLATTING PROCESS AND THAT IS WHAT GIVES THEM THE LEGAL
02:37:22PM ACCESS TO THE STREET.
02:37:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU SHOWED ME --
02:37:27PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IN THE PLAT.
02:37:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SEE WHERE THIS WILL HIT THE STREET.
02:37:33PM >>LAURA MARLEY: IT IS RIGHT HERE.
02:37:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S THE ONLY ACCESS THAT WILL BE THERE
02:37:43PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE ONLY ACCESS FOR IN PROPOSED PROJECT?
02:37:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:37:47PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NEVER TWO ACCESSES PROPOSED.
02:37:50PM SPECIAL USE, ACCESS ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR AND THEN THAT IS
02:37:54PM -- THAT IS THE FIRST CRITERIA.
02:37:57PM SECOND ONE IS, IF YOU HAVE AN EXTRA ACCESS, THAT IS EXTRA TO
02:38:00PM THE PRINCIPAL.
02:38:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN DOES THAT SAY THAT -- BECAUSE THIS DOES
02:38:07PM NOT SAY THAT.
02:38:09PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SAYS YOU MUST HAVE ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL
02:38:12PM COLLECTOR WHICH THEY DO.
02:38:13PM IT DOESN'T SAY YOU NEED ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS OR YOU CAN
02:38:16PM NOT HAVE ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS BUT IT SAYS YOU MUST
02:38:20PM ACCESS.
02:38:20PM THE ACCESS FOR THIS PROPERTY, LIKE I SAID, IF IT BECAME
02:38:24PM A COSTCO, -- I DON'T KNOW THROUGH THIS COMMERCIAL PLAT
02:38:33PM THEY WOULD HAVE THAT ACCESS.
02:38:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THEY DID HAVE A COMMERCIAL USAGE, DID IT
02:38:38PM HAVE MORE THAN ONE ACCESS POINT?
02:38:40PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ALWAYS HAD THE ACCESS POINT THROUGH THERE.
02:38:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WILL THE ONE ACCESS POINT.
02:38:47PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
02:38:47PM JUST LIKE THE APPLEBEE'S.
02:38:51PM GO BACK TO THE THIS SIDE HERE IS THE PLAT.
02:39:04PM JUST LIKE WHAT YOU ARE USED TO SEEING IN RESIDENTIAL PLATS
02:39:07PM WHERE YOU SEE THE 50 X 100 LOTS. THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL
02:39:11PM PLAT.
02:39:12PM THIS PLAT HAS PARCEL D, PARCEL B, PARCEL A.
02:39:17PM THOSE PARCELS, THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL PLAT, THIS A RECORDED
02:39:21PM DOCUMENT JUST LIKE A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION PLAT.
02:39:25PM THIS IS HOW THESE PARCELS ACCESS IN. THIS PARCEL HERE, PARCEL B,
02:39:30PM THEY CAN'T ACCESS ON IT TO GANDY AND HAS TO GO THROUGH THE
02:39:33PM PLATTED ACCESS WHICH IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
02:39:35PM WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINAL LEAVE DONE, YOU HAD THE OPTION TO
02:39:38PM HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT PARCELS THAT ALL SHARED THAT
02:39:42PM INTERNAL -- WHAT WE SEE IN THE SHOOTING CENTER IS AN
02:39:45PM INTERNAL DRIVE BUT THAT IS THE PLATTED ACCESS TO THE STREET.
02:39:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY ACCESS AND NEVER HAD ANY OTHER
02:39:52PM ACCESS?
02:39:53PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CORRECT.
02:39:54PM I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS BEHIND THE BUILDING -- IT WAS A
02:39:58PM WINN-DIXIE, I THINK.
02:40:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ZAYRE'S.
02:40:03PM LIKE A K-MART.
02:40:07PM OLD-FASHIONED K-MART.
02:40:09PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NONCONFORMING.
02:40:11PM WASN'T UNTIL LAYER THAT THE CODE REQUIRED THAT NONACCESS
02:40:14PM ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR WHICH WOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT AWAY.
02:40:18PM CRUNCH FITNESS ON DALE MABRY, AN ACCESS ON BAY VISTA.
02:40:22PM WHEN IT GOT DEVELOPED, IT WAS TAKEN AWAY.
02:40:26PM THEY CAME IN FOR A PD AND GO THE THAT ACCESS.
02:40:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR CLARIFICATION AND LEAVE THAT THERE FOR
02:40:31PM A SECOND.
02:40:32PM JUST TO UNDERSTAND, EVERY ONE OF THESE PARCELS THAT ARE
02:40:35PM NOTED ON HERE ARE INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED PARCELS THAT COULD BE
02:40:38PM SOLD INDIVIDUALLY AND TRANSFERRED INDIVIDUALLY.
02:40:43PM THESE ARE SEPARATELY OWNED AND CONTROLLED PARCELS.
02:40:47PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT'S CORRECT.
02:40:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU TELL US ON THIS WHERE THESE
02:40:59PM PARCELS ARE.
02:40:59PM JUST THOSE TWO.
02:41:00PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WHICH I THINK IS WHAT -- NOW I PROBABLY
02:41:04PM MESSED LAURA'S THING ABOUT -- THERE IS STILL PART OF THAT
02:41:08PM PARCEL.
02:41:08PM PARCEL JOGS AND COMES IN.
02:41:12PM NOT EXACTLY SQUARE.
02:41:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOTCHA.
02:41:15PM ONLY ACCESS IF ALL THESE OTHERS ARE BEING DEVELOPED
02:41:19PM INDEPENDENTLY, THE ASSESS TO GANDY WOULD BE RETAINED BY THE
02:41:22PM OWNER OF THOSE TWO PARCELS?
02:41:25PM THANK YOU.
02:41:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO NOD MY HEAD.
02:41:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO TO MR.
02:41:33PM HUDSON?
02:41:34PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF I CAN CLARIFY FOR A MINUTE.
02:41:37PM THAT WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM AND LAURA TOUCHED ON IT.
02:41:43PM ELIJAH WAS NEWER.
02:41:44PM HE DIDN'T KNOW OF THE COMMERCIAL PLATS.
02:41:46PM HOW THAT WORKED TO.
02:41:47PM HOW THIS THAT QUALIFIED AS THE EASEMENT TO THE STREET AND I
02:41:52PM THINK IN THE CORRESPONDENCE YOU SAW, WHILE IT MENTIONED
02:41:56PM A PD, WE STILL ALWAYS HAVE TO ALLOW AN APPLICANT THEIR DUE
02:42:00PM PROCESS.
02:42:00PM THEY WERE IN A PROCESS THAT ALLOWED THEM THAT.
02:42:03PM NOT FOR STAFF TO THEN TELL THEM, YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS
02:42:05PM OTHER PROCESS.
02:42:06PM THEY APPLIED FOR A PROCESS.
02:42:08PM AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PROCESS THAT APPLICATION WHICH
02:42:12PM IS WHAT STAFF SHOULD HAVE DONE AND THEY IS IT DO.
02:42:20PM DIFFERENT PROCESSES ALLOW APPLICANTS TO HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS
02:42:25PM TO THE SAME RESULT, THEY WERE IN A PROCESS AND THEY FILED
02:42:28PM THAT APPLICATION AND WE HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO HAVE THAT DUE
02:42:35PM PROCESS TAKE PLACE.
02:42:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:42:40PM MR. HUDSON, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
02:42:43PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:42:45PM TYLER HUDSON.
02:42:47PM GARDNER BREWER HUDSON.
02:42:50PM ASHLEY DRIVE.
02:42:53PM IF YOU CAN BRING UP THE GBH POWERPOINT.
02:42:57PM WHILE THAT GOES UP, I WANT TO RISE IN DEFENSE OF ELIJAH HERE.
02:43:01PM THAT WAS BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2024.
02:43:04PM FOLKS E-MAIL STAFF A LOT AND ASK QUESTIONS.
02:43:06PM AND THE STAFF DOES THEIR BEST TO ANSWER AN ABSOLUTE
02:43:10PM AVALANCHE OF QUESTIONS.
02:43:12PM WHETHER THIS SITE HAS ACCESS TO GANDY IS A LEGAL DETERMINE
02:43:15PM NATION THAT REQUIRED REVIEWING A 1975 SHOPPING CENTER
02:43:19PM DECLARATION, WHICH WAS DONE AND WHY THE ACCESS WAS
02:43:22PM DETERMINED.
02:43:23PM THIS MOTION TO BECAUSE HE SUGGESTED A PD, Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE
02:43:26PM NOTICED YOU HAVE YOU GET A LOT OF PDs, WE LIKE TO AVOID PDs
02:43:33PM WHEN WE CAN.
02:43:33PM INNOCUOUS 2024 E-MAIL SUGGESTING, LOOK LIKE THERE MIGHT NOT
02:43:37PM BE ACCESS.
02:43:38PM PD IS PROBABLY BEST.
02:43:40PM DOES NOT NEGATE THE LEGAL ACCESS THAT THIS LAND HAD SINCE
02:43:45PM 1959.
02:43:45PM WITH THAT, IF YOU CAN BRING UP THE POWERPOINT.
02:43:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IT IS.
02:43:50PM >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
02:43:52PM WITH ANY LAND USE DECISION, WE WANT TO START WITH THE
02:43:55PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
02:43:56PM WHAT YOU ALL HAVE INHERITED AND WHAT YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS
02:43:59PM OF GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE. THIS LAND A UMU 60,
02:44:05PM SECOND HIGHEST MOST INTENSE LAND USE DESIGNATION OUTSIDE OF
02:44:09PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
02:44:10PM NEXT TO R-10.
02:44:12PM A LITTLE BIT OF R-50.
02:44:14PM UMU-60 IS CURRENTLY PRESENT IN THREE AREAS OF TAMPA:
02:44:20PM KENNEDY, GANDY AND ROCKY POINT.
02:44:21PM WHAT DO ALL THOSE HAVE IN COMMON?
02:44:23PM THEY ARE ALL ARTERIAL ROAD THAT END AT BRIDGES THAT GO TO
02:44:28PM PINELLAS COUNTY.
02:44:28PM THESE ARE ROADS OF REGIONAL SIGNIFICANCE.
02:44:32PM YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU INHERITED DIRECTS GROWTH
02:44:37PM AND INTENSE DEVELOPMENT HERE.
02:44:38PM INTENSE IS RELATIVE SO LET'S USE NUMBERS.
02:44:41PM UP TO 50 TO 60 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
02:44:45PM 2.5 F.A.R. BY RIGHT.
02:44:48PM UP TO A .325 WITH PERFORMANCE PRO-VISIONS.
02:44:54PM HIGH INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE.
02:44:56PM THAT IS WHAT THE LAND EXPECTS HERE.
02:44:59PM WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE EXPECTATION DOES AND THOSE
02:45:03PM WHO BOUGHT IN BAYSIDE WEST, WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL
02:45:06PM NEIGHBORHOOD, HAD ON RECORD.
02:45:08PM BEEN IN UMU-64 FOR QUITE A LONG TIME AND WHY THERE ARE BIG
02:45:15PM BUILDS THERE.
02:45:16PM PULL PERMITS FOR 74,000-SQUARE-FEET OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE
02:45:21PM LAND BECAUSE SEVEN ACRES ON GANDY BOULEVARD.
02:45:26PM YOU CAN DO A BUNCH OF STUFF.
02:45:28PM WE TONIGHT LISTED IT FOR YOU NOT TO SCARE YOU, BUT TO REMIND THERE
02:45:32PM ARE THINGS CHECK DO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION AND
02:45:37PM DOES NOT HAVE US BE HERE AT ALL.
02:45:39PM WHAT IS INSANE.
02:45:41PM NOT SKYSCRAPERS YOU HAVE ABOUT A PRETTY DENSE HOUSING
02:45:46PM PROJECT ON THE LEFT AND NORTH HYDE PARK.
02:45:48PM ENCORE BUILDING WHERE FOLKS RIDE OUT THE HURRICANES AT GTE.
02:45:52PM THE TGH FREE-STANDING EMERGENCY ROOM ON KENNEDY, THE OLD
02:45:58PM LOT.
02:45:58PM UMU-60.
02:46:01PM THAT IS WHAT UMU-60 LOOKS LIKE.
02:46:03PM PRIOR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS TO SET THE TABLE.
02:46:06PM BACK IN 2021, 313 PARTS.
02:46:11PM 400 SURFACE STALLS.
02:46:15PM IS IT NOT ADVANCE.
02:46:16PM NEXT, LARGER BUILDING 257 APARTMENTS.
02:46:20PM 55 FEET OF MAXIMUM HEIGHT.
02:46:23PM THAT DID NOT ADVANCE.
02:46:25PM BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THIS, I WANT TO TALK OF "COMPATIBILITY."
02:46:31PM A GREAT WORD.
02:46:31PM A HIGH-VOLUME WORD IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BAYSIDE,
02:46:39PM '50s, '60S-STYLE BUNGALOWS, THAT IS TRUE.
02:46:43PM MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS IN THE MIDDLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:46:46PM 400 UNITS DIVIDED PROPORTIONATELY BETWEEN THE TWO PROBLEMS
02:46:51PM SOME OF WHICH ABUT DIRECTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
02:46:54PM AND WE ARE CERTAINLY AWARE OF THE PROJECTS YOU BRING BEFORE
02:47:02PM YOU.
02:47:02PM WE WATCH THE OTHER ONES TOO.
02:47:04PM THIS COUNCIL HAD ISSUES WHERE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOME
02:47:08PM ABUT UP AGAINST MULTIFAMILY.
02:47:10PM SOMETIMES THE LAND USE ALLOWS YOU TO ASK FOR AND A
02:47:15PM SIMILARITY.
02:47:16PM AFTER TWO FOR MULTI FAMILY, PROPOSING THIS.
02:47:20PM I THINK IT WAS ACCIDENTAL AND MR. TRELA'S PRESENTATION, HE
02:47:25PM WAS TRYING TO PUT PICTURES ON ONE SLIDE.
02:47:28PM GOT QUASHED IN.
02:47:30PM THAT IS A THREE-STORY BUILDING.
02:47:34PM IT HAS A ROOFTOP.
02:47:36PM THOSE IN TOWN HOUSES SHOULD HAVE SPACE.
02:47:39PM GENERAL SENSE OF MASSING WE ARE THINKING OF PROPOSING.
02:47:43PM THREE-STORY BUILDINGS.
02:47:45PM THREE-STORY BUILDINGS.
02:47:47PM IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND DENSITIES.
02:47:55PM YOU ARE AWARE OF THE LIVE LOCAL ACT.
02:47:57PM THIS SITE IS A AVAILABLE FOR THE LIVE LOCAL LIFE.
02:48:00PM 20150 PERMITS PER ACRE AND STRAIGHT TO THE PERMIT OFFICE.
02:48:06PM .25 F.A.R. TON OF DENSITY.
02:48:12PM YOU ARE PULLING PERMITS A 5.2 F.A.R.
02:48:16PM UMU-60 ALLOWS TO YOU ASK FOR 60, 50 WITH A BONUS.
02:48:22PM 202144 AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE.
02:48:25PM 37 I CAN'T HAVE.
02:48:26PM WE HAVE THAT 18.5.
02:48:34PM UMU-60.
02:48:36PM SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN.
02:48:37PM A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT 81 BAY.
02:48:44PM ACCESS ON OAKELLAR.
02:48:45PM YOU ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS ON GANDY.
02:48:48PM MOST OF THE SHOPPING CENTER LIKE WALTER'S CROSSING WHICH IS
02:48:51PM A TOUGH ONE.
02:48:52PM BUILTY WITH CONCRETE AND EVEN MORE LEGAL DOCUMENTATION.
02:48:56PM CROSS ACCESS, AND I WILL TALK IN A SECOND ABOUT THE
02:49:01PM DECLARATION.
02:49:02PM I DO WANT TO NOTE WE HAVE A 25-FOOT FRONT SETBACK, AND WE
02:49:06PM HAVE SIDEWALKS TO THE NORTH SIDE.
02:49:07PM MR. TRELA'S DIAGRAM WAS GREAT.
02:49:11PM A LOT OF RED.
02:49:12PM NEED FOR SIDEWALKS.
02:49:13PM A BIG GAP ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.
02:49:16PM WE ARE PUTTING A SIDEWALK THERE.
02:49:17PM THAT IS ON THE SITE PLAN AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
02:49:20PM GOT TO FILL THAT SIDEWALK GAP THAT EXISTS.
02:49:23PM I THINK WE KNOW TWO STANDARDS, A ACCESS, RM-24 COMPLIANCE.
02:49:28PM TALK OF ACCESS.
02:49:30PM ACCESS ROAD THAT EXISTS BY VIRTUE OF THE 1959 DECLARATION.
02:49:35PM LEGAL DETERMINATION THAT THE CITY HAS MADE.
02:49:38PM WE MADE IT.
02:49:39PM DON'T JUST TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT.
02:49:41PM FIRST AMERICA TITLE INSURANCE.
02:49:44PM READY AND FOLLOWING GIVE US AN INSURED EASEMENT TO GANDY
02:49:48PM BOULEVARD.
02:49:49PM FRONT AND IS NOT THE SAME THING AS DIRECT ACCESS.
02:49:52PM YOUR CODE IS REPLETE WITH FRONT AND.
02:49:55PM FRONTAGE, FRONTAGE, FRONTAGE.
02:49:58PM THIS SAYS DIRECT ACCESS.
02:50:00PM THAT IS WHAT DIRECT ACCESS LOOK LIKE.
02:50:02PM THIS SITE HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO GANDY BOULEVARD.
02:50:04PM PRECEDENT FOR THIS.
02:50:05PM FORTUNA NEAR THE SAM'S CLUB BY THE HOME DEPOT OF DALE
02:50:14PM MABRY.
02:50:14PM THAT WAS APPROVED.
02:50:15PM MULTIFAMILY.
02:50:18PM DOESN'T FRONT DALE MABRY.
02:50:20PM A LEGAL ACCESS ROAD.
02:50:21PM IT HAS LEGAL ACCESS, DIRECT ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL ROAD.
02:50:24PM SO DO WE.
02:50:27PM ALL RIGHT, SO -- THE SITE PLAN COMPLIES WITH THE
02:50:31PM REGULATIONS.
02:50:32PM THAT IS NOT SOME WILD ACHIEVEMENT.
02:50:34PM A BULK DIVISION REGULATIONS AND TALK OF HEIGHT.
02:50:37PM 35 FEET OF HEIGHT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
02:50:40PM THAT IS WHAT R-150 HAS, THE LARGEST LOTS, THE MOST --
02:50:45PM ANTI-DENSE -- THE LEAST DENSE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY OF
02:50:48PM TAMPA TO DO 35 FEET OF HEIGHT.
02:50:50PM SO CAN MR. TRELA OR ANY PERSON IN RED SITTING BEHIND ME CAN
02:50:54PM DO 35 FEET OF HEIGHT IN A SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:50:57PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
02:50:58PM THE SAME HEIGHT AS RS-150.
02:51:03PM A GOOD DEAL.
02:51:04PM ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT SLIDE AND
02:51:08PM GREAT BOOK OF JOHN McPHEE, "THE SENSE OF WHERE YOU ARE" BY
02:51:13PM BILL BRADLEY AND IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT.
02:51:15PM I THOUGHT OF THAT PHRASE A LOT AND WITH THIS APPLICATION, I
02:51:18PM IMPLORE YOU TO HAVE A SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
02:51:21PM THIS IS NOT AT THAT BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE HEARING.
02:51:25PM NOT A SITE PLAN REVIEW HEARING.
02:51:27PM WE HAVE A USE PERMIT.
02:51:28PM MEANING STAFF REVIEWED OUR SITE PLAN AND SAID BASED ON THOSE
02:51:31PM TWO STANDARDS DIRECT ACCESS AND RM-24 COMPLIANCE, YOU SHOULD
02:51:35PM GO TO THE NEXT STEP.
02:51:37PM WHERE IS THAT?
02:51:38PM IN SITE PLAN REVIEW, WE HAVE TO PRESENT AN ENTIRE NEW SITE PLAN
02:51:41PM TO GET TO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS WHERE ZONING AND ALL
02:51:44PM OF THESE AGENCIES HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE SITE AGAIN.
02:51:47PM WHERE THIS WAS ISSUED.
02:51:49PM STAFF KNEW THAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE STRAY TEXTURAL REFERENCE
02:51:53PM THAT WILL BE FIXED NOT BECAUSE WE ARE WALKING FROM THIS S-1
02:51:57PM APPROVAL FROM ELIJAH TO THE BUILDING PERMIT OFFICE.
02:52:00PM NOT HOW THAT WORKS.
02:52:01PM I ASK YOU TO REMEMBER HOW THIS DOES WORK FOR THOSE PEOPLE IF
02:52:05PM YOU SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO EVEN GET TO THIS POINT.
02:52:07PM BY THE TIME WE LEAVE HERE, WE ARE NOT WALKING IN THE PERMIT
02:52:11PM OFFICE.
02:52:11PM WE ARE WALKING -- NOT TO GET BUILDING PERMITS.
02:52:15PM WE ARE WALKING TO GET A SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND A BUILDING
02:52:18PM PROCESS COMMENCES AT WHICH TIME ZONING COMPLIANCE IS
02:52:22PM VERIFIED AGAIN WITH EVEN MORE DETAILED DRAWINGS TALK ABOUT
02:52:30PM TRIPS.
02:52:31PM IN THE BLUE IS THE BUILDING BACK THE 100,000 SQUARE FOOT OF
02:52:38PM RETAIL THAT IS THERE.
02:52:39PM HOPEFULLY, YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE CLOSED CAPTIONING, BUT THE
02:52:42PM GREEN IS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE LIVE LOCAL ACT.
02:52:44PM I WOULD SAY A MODERATE LIVE LOCAL ACT PROJECT.
02:52:47PM AND YELLOW IS THE TOWN HOMES.
02:52:48PM A FRACTION OF THE TRIPS AND OUR EXPERTS ARE HERE TO DISCUSS
02:52:52PM THIS FURTHER IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
02:52:53PM THE SAME -- SAME EFFECT HOLDS TRUE, ALSO, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT
02:52:58PM A.M. PEAK HOUR DISTINCTIONS.
02:53:00PM SO -- THIS IS A DIRT FIELD RIGHT NOW.
02:53:03PM THIS GENERATES ZERO TRIPS.
02:53:05PM IT IS 100% PERVIOUS.
02:53:08PM THERE IS NO ZERO IMPACT SCENARIO.
02:53:13PM SWIPE THAT AWAY.
02:53:14PM NO ZERO IMPACT SCENARIO AND THESE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED OF
02:53:19PM STORMWATER AND TRAFFIC LIKE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR
02:53:22PM CONSTITUENTS.
02:53:23PM EVERYBODY IN COMPANY ARE WORRIED OF THOSE TWO THING.
02:53:26PM THERE IS GOING TO BE A DEVELOP HERE TO HAVE IMPACT
02:53:29PM UNQUESTIONABLY.
02:53:30PM NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS HERE, SOMETHING WILL GO ON THAT SITE.
02:53:33PM WHAT IS THE MOST MINIMAL IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
02:53:39PM 18 AND A HALF UNITS AN ACRE ON A UMU-60 SITE.
02:53:45PM FRACTION -- P.M. 27 TRIPS VERSUS 186 TRIPS YOU GO DO THE
02:53:51PM RETAIL.
02:53:51PM IF YOU DO JUST THE 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL THAT IS
02:53:55PM ALREADY THERE.
02:53:56PM THERE IS NO QUESTION THIS IS THE MOST MINIMALLY INTENSIVE
02:54:01PM PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR THIS SITE, AND I IMPLORE
02:54:05PM COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE IT SO WE BELIEVE
02:54:08PM CONTINUE THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING IT IN A WAY THAT WORKS FOR
02:54:12PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:54:13PM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THINGS OVER TO BEN.
02:54:15PM IF YOU CAN BECAUSE THE TIME.
02:54:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HENDERSON WAS FIRST AND THEN HURTAK.
02:54:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
02:54:22PM HI, TYLER.
02:54:24PM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT THAT FOURTH STORY.
02:54:26PM IT APPEARS TO ME JUST BASED ON THE DESIGN, THERE IS A HIGH
02:54:31PM WALL THAT KIND OF COVERS -- IT IS NOT OPEN WHERE YOU CAN
02:54:34PM JUST SEE OUT INTO THE STREET.
02:54:39PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AREA IN TERMS OF THE HEIGHT?
02:54:42PM APPEARS THERE IS A WALL, A BARRIER TO GIVE PRIVACY TO THAT
02:54:46PM PARTICULAR UNIT -- UNITS?
02:54:48PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
02:54:49PM THE PRIVACY WORKS IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, RIGHT.
02:54:54PM ONE THING I WOULD NOTE IN CASE THIS COMES UP.
02:54:58PM SO THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 35 FEET.
02:55:01PM STAIRS THAT GET YOU UP THERE.
02:55:03PM THE STAIRS ARE COVERED.
02:55:05PM SO THAT PORTION OF THE OVERAGE OF THE STAIRWAY COLUMN DOES
02:55:10PM BUNKER THROUGH 35 FEET AND THAT IS ALLOWED.
02:55:13PM BECAUSE UNDER Y'ALL'S CODE THE PROTRUSION ABOVE THE HEIGHT
02:55:18PM LIMIT IS LESS THAN 20% OF THE FOOTPRINT, EXCLUDED FROM
02:55:22PM HEIGHT.
02:55:22PM I WANTED TO RAISE THAT.
02:55:23PM AS FAR AS THE MIGHT OF THE WALLS, ASK BRIAN LeBLANC OF WEST
02:55:30PM HOMES FROM WEST BAY.
02:55:32PM IF YOU ARE STANDING ON THE ROOFTOP, HOW HIGH DOES IT COME?
02:55:35PM >> BRIAN LeBLANC, HOMES BY WEST BAY.
02:55:38PM A PARAPET WALL THAT ELEVATES HIGHER THAN THE FINISHED ROOF
02:55:44PM DECK.
02:55:44PM 3 FOOT, 6 INCHES AND 4 FOOT, 6 INCHES.
02:55:52PM IF YOU SEE THE MEASUREMENTS, FOR THE PRIVACY AND SAFETY OF
02:55:57PM PEOPLE USING THE ROOF DECK.
02:55:58PM THAT, TOO, DOES NOT COUNT AGAINST YOUR HEIGHT UNDER THE LAND
02:56:02PM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
02:56:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
02:56:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN AND HURTAK.
02:56:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR OUR STAFF BECAUSE I NEED CLARIFICATION
02:56:15PM OF WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DECIDE.
02:56:17PM WHAT IS BEFORE US AND THE TESTIMONY WHETHER THE SU-1
02:56:23PM APPLICATION PROCESS THAT WAS APPROVED IS VALID, CORRECT?
02:56:27PM THESE SITE PLANS -- THEY HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH SITE PLAN
02:56:31PM APPROVAL.
02:56:31PM THEY CAN CHANGE DRAMATICALLY.
02:56:33PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I APOLOGIZE.
02:56:34PM I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
02:56:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S OKAY.
02:56:37PM GO.
02:56:41PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FOR THE LEGAL
02:56:43PM DEPARTMENT.
02:56:43PM CRITERIA IS ONLY ON SU-1.
02:56:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONLY THING WE ARE HERE FOR TODAY.
02:56:50PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CORRECT.
02:56:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NONE OF THIS STUFF -- PRETTY PICTURES ARE
02:56:54PM JUST PRETTY PICTURES IN THIS PROCESS GRIFFIN CANNING.
02:57:05PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: ONLY IF IT IS THE CRITERIA.
02:57:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS QUESTION IS A LITTLE OUT OF BOUNDS BUT I
02:57:11PM WILL DO IT ANYWAY.
02:57:12PM >> LET'S DO IT.
02:57:13PM IT IS DE NOVO.
02:57:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU HAD A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWED WHAT REALLY
02:57:24PM LOOKED LIKE ALL CONCRETE.
02:57:25PM PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED TREES AND GREEN SPACE.
02:57:28PM I KNOW WE ARE NOT THERE YET, BUT IT IS A CONCERN.
02:57:34PM SO I WOULD LIKE -- AGAIN, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT JUST
02:57:39PM BRIEFLY, EVEN THOUGH THIS TECHNICALLY WON'T BE 100% WHAT IT
02:57:44PM LOOKS LIKE.
02:57:45PM YEAH.
02:57:45PM THAT WILL BE GREAT.
02:57:46PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
02:57:47PM THESE S-1s ARE -- YOU KNOW ADVISED ME TO TALK ABOUT THIS
02:57:53PM BEFORE.
02:57:53PM BUT THE PROBLEM WITH PD THEY ARE SPECIFIC.
02:57:56PM BUT THE GOOD NEWS IT IS SPECIFIC.
02:57:58PM WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THE BARK LOOKS LIKE ON THE TREES.
02:58:00PM S-1 ARE THREADBARE AND MINIMAL.
02:58:05PM WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THINGS WE DON'T HAVE TO.
02:58:09PM BUT UNDERSTANDABLY CURIOSITY FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHAT IT WILL
02:58:12PM LOOK LIKE.
02:58:14PM THIS A TEMPLATE -- I SHOULDN'T SAY A TEMPLATE BUT A
02:58:17PM SCHEMATIC OF WHAT THE GREEN SPACE WILL LOOK LIKE.
02:58:20PM A GIANT DIRT FIELD.
02:58:21PM TREES AROUND THE PERIMETER MOST OF WHICH CAN STAY.
02:58:24PM WE ARE PROPOSING TO EXCEED THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS BY
02:58:29PM OVER 20% ON A PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS.
02:58:32PM THAT IS PART OF THE SITE PLAN UP FOR YOU AFFIRMING OR
02:58:37PM DENYING TODAY.
02:58:38PM WE DIDN'T RENDER OR DEPICT IT IN THE SITE PLAN.
02:58:41PM ONE, BECAUSE IT IS NOT REQUIRED, AND TWO, WE DIDN'T WANT TO
02:58:45PM GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES PREPARATION FOR THIS KNOWING THERE
02:58:48PM WAS CONCERN.
02:58:48PM WE PUT THIS TOGETHER.
02:58:50PM LITTLE DOG PARK AREA. THIS A RETENTION POND.
02:58:54PM THAT WILL BE ENCIRCLED IN GREENERY, I HOPE THIS HELPS A
02:59:01PM LITTLE BIT.
02:59:02PM MR. CHARLES IS 100% RIGHT.
02:59:04PM WE DECENT HAVE RENDERING WHAT THE ENTIRE LANDSCAPING PLAN
02:59:07PM LOOKS LIKE.
02:59:08PM WE WILL SHARE THAT IF WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS,
02:59:10PM BUT, AGAIN, WE ARE QUITE NOT THERE YET.
02:59:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OTHER THING RAISED THAT YOU HEARD FROM THIS
02:59:17PM COUNCIL MANY, MANY TIMES.
02:59:18PM THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN PUT A 22-FOOT GARAGE IN THERE.
02:59:25PM BECAUSE THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR NOW.
02:59:28PM WE ARE EXPECTING TO SEE PRETTY -- GARAGES.
02:59:35PM >> PEOPLE HAVE BIG CARS.
02:59:36PM I CAN ANSWER THAT.
02:59:37PM CODE REQUIREMENTS IS 162 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS 18 X 9.
02:59:42PM THAT IS WHAT WE SAY WE ARE DOING AND OUR MINIMUM.
02:59:45PM BUT IN REALITY, EACH OF OUR SPACES WILL BE 19 FEETM 10 INCHES
02:59:50PM BY 10 FEET.
02:59:57PM TWO OF THEM 19 FEET, 10 INCHES BY 20.
03:00:00PM TWO INCHES SHORT OF 20 X 20.
03:00:04PM BASED ON WEST BAY'S BUILDING HOME EXPERIENCE IS GOOD.
03:00:11PM THESE ARE NOT RENTALS.
03:00:13PM NO COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE VEHICLE -- LET ME REPHRASE THAT.
03:00:16PM NO CONSUMER MARKETED VEHICLE ON THE MARKET THAT EXCEEDS 20
03:00:21PM FEET IN LENGTH.
03:00:21PM SOME OF THE CRAZY PICKUP TRUCKS LIKE A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE
03:00:24PM THAT EXCEEDS 20 FEET, BUT NO QUESTION THAT VEHICLES WILL BE
03:00:27PM ABLE TO FIT IN HERE.
03:00:28PM IF PEOPLE THAT HAVE TWO SUBURBANS CHOOSE TO BUY IN, YOU
03:00:32PM KNOW, IT NIGHT BE TIGHT.
03:00:34PM BUT THAT GETS BEYOND THE POINT OF REGULATING THE BUILT
03:00:38PM ENVIRONMENT TO REGULATING HUMAN BEHAVIOR AND BECAUSE TRASH
03:00:41PM IS RELATED TO GARAGE WIDTHS, THERE ARE NO TRASH RECEPTACLES
03:00:47PM IN THESE GARAGES.
03:00:48PM SINGLE DUMPSTER POINT -- THE TRASH WILL HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE
03:00:52PM -- HE WILL STAY UNDER RECORD BECAUSE I AM UNDER OATH.
03:00:54PM A VALET TRASH SERVICE.
03:00:57PM THAT IS THE DUMPSTER.
03:00:58PM THAT IS WHERE TRASH GOES.
03:01:00PM YOU GOT TO WALK IT THERE.
03:01:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING LITERALLY
03:01:04PM NEXT WEEK OF THE 2024 AMENDMENT CYCLE WHERE WE WILL BE
03:01:09PM CHANGING GARAGE SIZE.
03:01:10PM BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE, IT MIGHT ALREADY BE CHANGED.
03:01:14PM >> UNDERSTOOD.
03:01:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT FOR THE RECORD OF
03:01:18PM SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO BE EXPECTING GOING FORWARD.
03:01:21PM UNDERSTAND, YES, MA'AM.
03:01:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:01:23PM SIR, ARE YOU GOING TO FINISH THE PRESENTATION.
03:01:27PM >> YES, MR. DACHEPALLI.
03:01:30PM >> HOUSEKEEPING, 1001 WATER STREET.
03:01:34PM I DON'T BELIEVE WE GOT THE EXTRA FIVE MINUTES ON THE TIME CLOCK.
03:01:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAD 20 MEN TOTAL.
03:01:43PM 20 MINUTES TOTAL ON THE TIMER.
03:01:45PM >> IF I COULD GET THE POWERPOINT PULLED UP, PLEASE.
03:01:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
03:02:04PM >> OKAY, GREAT.
03:02:05PM WE ARE HERE TODAY TO SIMPLY ASK FOR FUNDAMENTAL FAIRNESS.
03:02:09PM AS MR. HUDSON PRESENTED, THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE
03:02:13PM APPLICATION AND HOW THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE.
03:02:17PM I WANTED TO TALK OF THE IMPACTS OF THIS PROCESS AND THE
03:02:20PM APPLICATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
03:02:21PM IF A PROPERTY OWNER FOLLOWS COMP PLAN AND THE RULES ADOPTED
03:02:29PM BY COUNCIL, ONLY FAIR THAT COUNCIL DO THE SAME AND THAT IS
03:02:32PM REALLY ALL I AM ASKING FOR TODAY.
03:02:34PM IT IS UNDISPUTED THAT THE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA WERE MET.
03:02:39PM IT IS UNDISPUTED THAT THE CITY STAFF FOUND THOSE OBJECTIVE
03:02:43PM CRITERIA WERE MET.
03:02:44PM AND THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR APPROVED THE SU-1 APPLICATION.
03:02:50PM THEREFORE, WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THE SU-1 GET
03:02:57PM AFFIRMED, AND YOU DENY THE PETITION FOR REVIEW.
03:02:59PM I WON'T GO THE SITE MAP AGAIN, BUT I WANT TO GET TO THE
03:03:05PM OBJECTIVE CRITERIA.
03:03:06PM AS MR. HUDSON HAD LAID OUT, THE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA ARE VERY
03:03:12PM CLEAR AND AMBIGUOUS.
03:03:14PM NOT A PD REZONING AS MISS FEELEY STATED.
03:03:19PM SPECIAL USE 1 APPLICATION FOR A PERMITTED USE.
03:03:23PM ONLY TWO CRITERIA THAT WE NEED TO MEET.
03:03:26PM AS LONG AS WE APPROVE IT BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WHICH
03:03:31PM IT WAS, THE CITY COUNCIL'S POINT OF REVIEW IS ONLY LIMITED
03:03:36PM TO THESE THREE CRITERIA AND PRETTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
03:03:41PM SITE REVIEW, THE BUILDING PERMIT AND THE SITE PLAN TO GET
03:03:44PM RE-EVALUATED.
03:03:45PM SPECIAL USE ACTION WAS APPROVED BY CITY STAFF.
03:03:49PM IT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER 27, 2024.
03:03:54PM WE ARE NOW FIVE MONTHS SINCE THAT APPROVAL WITH STILL NO
03:03:58PM UNIT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.
03:04:02PM CITY STAFF EVALUATED THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE AND
03:04:08PM DETERMINED THAT THE TWO SPECIAL USE CRITERIA UNDER 27-132
03:04:13PM WERE MET.
03:04:13PM AND HERE IS THAT APPROVAL.
03:04:15PM THE STANDARDS OF -- I WON'T BELABOR THOSE AGAIN THAT WERE
03:04:20PM REPEATED, AND IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL SETTING SUCH AS THIS ONE,
03:04:25PM CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION MUST BE BASED ON SUBSTANTIAL
03:04:29PM COMPETENT EVIDENCE ON THE RECORD.
03:04:33PM I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THOUGH THAT BECAUSE THE NATURE OF
03:04:37PM 27-132 LAYS OUT VERY SPECIFIC OBJECTIVE MATERIAL.
03:04:45PM NO SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO DISPUTE
03:04:49PM COMPLIANCE WITH THE SU-1 APPROVAL STANDARDS.
03:04:52PM THAT IS THERE IS NO SUBJECTIVE DISCRETION AFFORDED CITY
03:04:56PM COUNCIL ON THIS KIND OF APPLICATION AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE
03:05:02PM SURE THAT CITY COUNCIL UNDERSTOOD THAT.
03:05:03PM MENTIONED THIS AT THE BEGINNING AND I AM REALLY JUST
03:05:06PM REFERRING THIS FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE THERE IS A DUE PROCESS
03:05:11PM DEFECT HERE IN THE SERVICE.
03:05:14PM THE -- ON DECEMBER 27, MR. TRELA DID FILE THE PETITION FOR
03:05:20PM REVIEW.
03:05:20PM 27-61-E REQUIRES THE PETITIONER TO SERVE THE PETITION ON ALL
03:05:25PM PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF FILING.
03:05:27PM HERE THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY TWO ENTITIES THAT YOU CAN SEE.
03:05:34PM THESE TWO ENTITIES HAVE VERY SPECIFIC FOLIOS.
03:05:39PM VERY SPECIFIC ADDRESSES.
03:05:40PM MR. TRELA ONLY SERVED THE GF ALT FINANCE INCIDENT.
03:05:48PM THAT I'M HERE TO PRESENT.
03:05:49PM AND THE OTHER OWNER IS RESERVING ITS RIGHTS.
03:05:52PM FAILURE TO TIMELY AND PROPERLY SERVE 4465 WEST GANDY
03:06:00PM RENDERING THE CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT JURISDICTION TECHNICALLY
03:06:04PM TO HEAR THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW AND TO ANSWER COUNCILWOMAN
03:06:07PM HURTAK'S QUESTION, IT WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF AN APPEAL
03:06:10PM SHOULD THIS APPROVAL NOT GET AFFIRMED TODAY.
03:06:14PM ADDITIONAL NOTICE FAILURES.
03:06:19PM I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM AS MR. HUDSON MENTIONED.
03:06:23PM LISTEN, WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES.
03:06:25PM I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE WERE INTENTIONAL BUT SIGNIFICANT
03:06:29PM NOTICE FAILURES.
03:06:31PM OTHER ISSUE I WANT TO POINT OUT, IT HAS CAUSED DEFENSE LAY.
03:06:37PM ON APPROVAL OF THE SU-1 APPLICATION AND THE DELAYS ARE, IN
03:06:42PM FACT, COSTING MY CLIENT SIGNIFICANT DAMAGES.
03:06:46PM AND THOSE DAMAGE INCLUDE NOT JUST THE LOSS OF USE OF THE
03:06:50PM DOLLARS FROM THE SALE, BUT CARRIED INTEREST COST AND OTHER
03:06:55PM COSTS THAT ARE OUTLINED HERE.
03:06:56PM INCREASED FINANCE COST.
03:06:58PM LOSS OF USE OF FUNDS.
03:07:00PM INCREASE CARRYING COSTS.
03:07:03PM I DIDN'T WANT -- I WANTED CITY COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THE
03:07:07PM IMPACTS.
03:07:07PM NOW IF THIS DOES NOT GET APPROVED, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS
03:07:14PM THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE OWNER.
03:07:16PM AND WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE LIVE LOCAL
03:07:23PM APPLICATION THAT CURRENTLY HAS BEEN FILED DOES PROVIDE THE
03:07:26PM OWN WE ARE ANOTHER OPTION.
03:07:27PM AN OPTION WE CHOOSE FRANKLY.
03:07:30PM WE DON'T PREFER.
03:07:33PM WE RATHER WITH THE APPLICATION, WITH THE PROPOSED DENSITY,
03:07:40PM LOWEST DENSITY OPTION THAT IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FOR THE
03:07:44PM OWNERS HERE.
03:07:45PM IF CITY COUNCIL OVERTURNS THE SU-1 APPROVAL, THEN THE
03:07:50PM OWNERS WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER THE LIVE LOCAL OPTION.
03:07:53PM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, HOWEVER, THAT THE LIVE LOCAL
03:07:56PM APPLICATION WILL HAVE ABSOLUTELY GET WITHDRAWN AS SOON AS
03:08:01PM PERMITS FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS ARE RECEIVED.
03:08:03PM NOT THE PREFERRED APPROACH, BUT IT IS AN APPROACH THAT WE
03:08:07PM HAVE TO CONSIDER IN THE EVENT THE SU-1 APPROVAL HAS BEEN
03:08:13PM DENIED.
03:08:13PM IF, AGAIN, THE SU-1 APPROVAL IS OVERTURNED, I JUST WANT TO
03:08:20PM HIGHLIGHT, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGES HERE.
03:08:23PM AS I MENTIONED DURING THE HOUSE KEEPING PORTION OF THIS CASE
03:08:26PM OR THIS HEARING.
03:08:28PM THE LIBERTY CASE IS IS THE PRECEDENT.
03:08:34PM IF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT,
03:08:37PM WE DO FIND IT AS THE LAW OF THIS SECTOR.
03:08:40PM SO WE HAVE TO USE THE ANALYSIS THAT JUDGE MOE OUTLINED.
03:08:44PM IN THE EVENT THE SU-1 APPROVAL IS DENIED, WE WOULD HAVE TO
03:08:48PM SEEK THE DAMAGES THAT JUDGE MOE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER OF
03:08:59PM UNAUTHORIZED USE OF QUASI-JUDICIAL AUTHORITY.
03:09:01PM WE HAVE A PROPOSED SALE AND THE DAMAGES CAN BE EXCESSIVE.
03:09:09PM WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN FILING A LAWSUIT.
03:09:11PM WE DON'T WANT TO GET THIS INTO A LEGAL ISSUE.
03:09:15PM WE WANT TO YOU VOTE AND CONFIRM THE SU-1 APPLICATION.
03:09:20PM THOSE ARE THE CONCLUSIONS WITH THAT AND I WILL RESERVE THE
03:09:31PM REMAINDER OF TIME.
03:09:32PM >> 1:08 AND FIVE MINUTES IN REBUTTAL OF WHICH TIME THE
03:09:36PM PRINCIPAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
03:09:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE OTHER PARTY HAS FIVE MINUTES PLUS
03:09:41PM THEIR REBUTTAL SO IT IS CLEAR.
03:09:42PM I AM KEEPING TRACK HERE.
03:09:43PM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
03:09:46PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:09:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR TRANSPORTATION.
03:09:49PM SO WE NOT HAVE ANYONE HERE FROM TRANSPORTATION?
03:09:59PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE FROM TRANSPORTATION.
03:10:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BHIDE IS HERE.
03:10:06PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WERE YOU SWORN IN.
03:10:15PM >>VIK BHIDE: I WAS NOT.
03:10:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
03:10:19PM [SWEARING IN]
03:10:24PM >>VIK BHIDE: I DO.
03:10:24PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
03:10:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
03:10:29PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:10:30PM >>VIK BHIDE: VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
03:10:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
03:10:35PM ON THIS -- THE APPROVAL LETTER.
03:10:45PM IT SAYS WITH THE CONDITION, THE IT IS LEFT-AND RIGHT-OUT
03:10:53PM ONLY.
03:10:53PM WITH THE WAY PEOPLE DRIVE AROUND HERE, MEANING THAT
03:10:56PM SOMETIMES THOSE ARE SUGGESTIONS AND NOT RULES.
03:10:59PM WHAT DO YOU TO DO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ONLY GO IN LEFT
03:11:04PM AND OUT RIGHT?
03:11:04PM WHAT KINDS OF -- LIKE, WHAT -- WHAT KINDS OF THINGS WOULD
03:11:11PM YOU TO DO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS THE ONLY WAY PEOPLE CAN
03:11:14PM MOVE WITHIN AND OUT -- JUST A QUESTION, BECAUSE IT IS IN
03:11:19PM THERE.
03:11:19PM AND I FORGOT TO HAVE ASK THIS EARLIER.
03:11:21PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE, THERE ARE DESIGN OPTIONS TO ENSURE AND
03:11:28PM PREVENT MOVEMENT, ESPECIALLY THE RIGHT OUT IS THE ONE THAT
03:11:32PM YOU REALLY WANT.
03:11:34PM THIS IS FOR TRAFFIC CONSIDERATION.
03:11:40PM NOT UNCOMMON WHEN THEY DESIGN IS THE DRIVEWAY INTERSECTION
03:11:49PM OF THINGS WITH THE STREET.
03:11:50PM DRIVEWAY CAN BE ANGLED SUCH THAT IT NATURALLY HAS A MEDIAN
03:11:55PM SEPARATOR THAT PREVENTS A LEFT TURN AND THEN STILL MAKE THE
03:12:00PM RIGHT TURN.
03:12:00PM AND DESIGN CONSIDERATION CAN BE MADE ON THE APPROACH TO MAKE
03:12:05PM A LEFT IN.
03:12:06PM AND PREVENT A RIGHT INTO THE PROPERTY.
03:12:10PM I AM NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION.
03:12:18PM AND THERE ARE DESIGN OPTIONS.
03:12:20PM THAT IS SOMETHING MY TEAM WILL BE LOOKING FOR.
03:12:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:12:23PM SO IT IS POSSIBLE TO PREVENT -- OKAY.
03:12:29PM THANK YOU.
03:12:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:12:31PM THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
03:12:33PM >> COUNCIL CHAIR, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
03:12:37PM I WILL GIVE A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION.
03:12:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
03:12:42PM OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:12:43PM KNOW A LOT OF SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS.
03:12:45PM PLEASE LINE UP TO THIS SIDE OF THE ROOM.
03:12:49PM SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS OR NOT, IT WILL START FROM THE PROCESS.
03:12:54PM SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE IT KICK IT OFF?
03:12:59PM >> SURE.
03:12:59PM >> WHO DO I ASK OF THIS ON THE BOARD?
03:13:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOES TO MR. SHELBY.
03:13:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING THEY CAN TALK ABOUT.
03:13:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE THERE LIMITATIONS?
03:13:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST TO BE SAFE.
03:13:14PM >> ARE WE READY?
03:13:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
03:13:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY QUESTION IS, THERE ARE ONLY TWO THINGS
03:13:19PM THAT PEOPLE CAN SPEAK TO --
03:13:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE HAVE SOME QUIET --
03:13:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP IT QUIET IN THE CHAMBERS.
03:13:27PM WE CAN'T HEAR.
03:13:28PM YES, MA'AM.
03:13:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ASKED MR. SHELBY, ONLY TWO THINGS WE CAN
03:13:33PM CONSIDER.
03:13:33PM IS THAT ALL WE CAN HEAR ABOUT OR HEAR ABOUT EVERYTHING
03:13:36PM DURING THIS?
03:13:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR DECISION OF
03:13:44PM COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
03:13:46PM RELEVANT AND MATERIAL, THE DECISION YOU HAVE TO MAKE.
03:13:48PM NOW IF PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE THEIR TIME SPEAKING ABOUT -- I
03:13:53PM CANNOT -- I MEAN, IF THE CHAIR AND THE COUNCIL WISH THEM
03:14:00PM AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO ADDRESS THOSE
03:14:03PM ITEMS THAT ARE RELEVANT AND MATERIAL TO COUNCIL'S DECISION,
03:14:07PM YOU CAN ASK IT TO BE LIMITED TO THAT.
03:14:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL ASK THE CHAIR TO DIRECT THE PUBLIC
03:14:16PM -- IN THE INTEREST OF IT THEIR TIME AND EFFICIENCY KNOWING
03:14:19PM WHAT WE HAVE TO HEAR.
03:14:20PM ONLY THINGS WE CAN CONSIDER, IF THE CHAIR WILL DIRECT THE
03:14:23PM PUBLIC TO LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS ON THE COMPETENT AND
03:14:27PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SU-1.
03:14:32PM [INAUDIBLE]
03:14:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MICROPHONE.
03:14:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE ARE A COMPLEX ISSUE.
03:14:39PM HE, I OR YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND IT.
03:14:41PM MAYBE MR. SHELBY CAN COME.
03:14:44PM LET HIM JOIN IN.
03:14:45PM THE CHAIRMAN NEEDS A LITTLE GUIDANCE.
03:14:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, SIR --
03:14:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
03:14:51PM I HAVE THE SPEAKER WAIVER FARM.
03:14:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU?
03:14:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DO.
03:14:56PM MR. GISBERG WILL BE SPEAKING.
03:14:59PM FOUR NAMES.
03:15:00PM ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENTATION SO HE CAN SEE YOU AND HEAR
03:15:04PM YOU.
03:15:04PM WANDA JOHNSON, ARE YOU PRESENT?
03:15:07PM WANDA --
03:15:09PM >> SHE LEFT.
03:15:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: REMINDER TO THOSE PEOPLE WITH SPEAKER
03:15:13PM WAIVER FORMS AND THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE PRESENT.
03:15:15PM TWO THINGS, NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE TO BE PRESENT WHEN THE
03:15:19PM SPEAKER GETS UP SO I CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR PRESENCE.
03:15:23PM AND BY DOING SO, WAIVE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO GIVE THE
03:15:28PM SPEAKER AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE.
03:15:29PM THE OTHER THING IS, YOU CAN ONLY APPEAR ONCE ON ONE SPEAKER
03:15:33PM WAIVER FORM.
03:15:34PM YOU CAN NOT REPEATEDLY WAIVE YOUR TIME FOR OTHER SPEAKERS.
03:15:39PM MICHELLE MINOR.
03:15:45PM >> MILLER, SHE HAD TO LEAVE.
03:15:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EDWARD JOHNSON AND A STEELE IS HERE.
03:15:53PM TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR FIVE.
03:15:56PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
03:15:59PM MY NAME IS LARRY GIPSERT.
03:16:02PM 4707 WEST CORTEZ. AND WE RESIDE THERE FOR THE PAST 35 YEARS.
03:16:11PM I AM COMPELLED TO TELL THAT YOU I RETIRED FROM HILLSBOROUGH
03:16:14PM COUNTY GOVERNMENT IN 2011 AFTER 31 YEARS OF SERVICE.
03:16:18PM THE LAST 17 YEARS, I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY
03:16:21PM MANAGEMENT.
03:16:22PM FOR THOSE OF HOW ARE LIVING IN A COMMUNITY BACK THEN, YOU
03:16:26PM PROBABLY REMEMBER MY UGLY FACE ON TV TELLING YOU TO GET THE
03:16:29PM HELL OUT OF TAMPA, THE HURRICANE IS COMING.
03:16:31PM OKAY.
03:16:32PM DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
03:16:34PM I HAVE TO EVACUATE MYSELF.
03:16:36PM I HAVE WANT TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY -- I DON'T NEED THE EXTRA
03:16:43PM TIME THAT THEY SUCCEEDED TO ME.
03:16:46PM I AM GOING TO HIT HIGH POINTS.
03:16:48PM NOT GOING TO TALK OF THE TECHNICAL PLANNING AND BUILDING AND
03:16:52PM SITE AND ALL YOU HAVE THAT STUFF.
03:16:53PM THEY HAVE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WILL DO THAT.
03:16:55PM TALK TO YOU OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
03:16:58PM I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT TERM.
03:16:59PM IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY/TAMPA, COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA IS
03:17:03PM DEFINED AS EVACUATION ZONE A.
03:17:07PM OKAY.
03:17:08PM OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY AND THE PROPERTY THAT IS GOING TO BE
03:17:13PM DEVELOPED IS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
03:17:15PM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE CITY OF TAMPA'S CURRENT
03:17:20PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPEAKS TO ABOUT DISCOURAGING THE
03:17:23PM ESPECIALLY CREASE OF POPULATION IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
03:17:28PM AREA.
03:17:28PM I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU, 127 NEW CONDO UNITS WITH AT LEAST TWO
03:17:33PM PEOPLE IN EACH UNIT IS SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN POPULATION
03:17:39PM DENSITY IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD.
03:17:41PM WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT, THAT IS YOUR CHOICE.
03:17:45PM TELLING YOU SOMETHING LIVING IN SOUTH TAMPA, IF YOU HAVE
03:17:48PM BEEN TO WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO PORT TAMPA BY BAY.
03:17:54PM YOU SEE NOTHING BUT THREE- OR FOUR-STORY APARTMENTS.
03:17:56PM WORKING IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, I USED TO LOSE SLEEP AND
03:18:02PM NEVER GET THEM OUT OF DODGE IF I COULD GET THEM TO GO, I
03:18:06PM COULDN'T GET THEM THERE BECAUSE THE ROADWAY NETWORK COULDN'T
03:18:08PM SUPPORT IT.
03:18:09PM YOU NEED TO CONSIDER PUTTING 127 LIVING UNITS WITH 200-PLUS
03:18:13PM PEOPLE INTO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
03:18:16PM DO IT AS YOU MAY.
03:18:17PM LOCAL FLOODING.
03:18:18PM DO ANY OF YOU LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA?
03:18:23PM OKAY.
03:18:23PM WELL, YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA, YOU
03:18:27PM HAVE TWO MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, CALLED A DRY MODE AND A
03:18:30PM WET MODE.
03:18:31PM IF THE SUN IS SHINING, YOU GO TO WORK OR TO PLAY, ONE ROUTE.
03:18:35PM IF IT IS RAINING, YOU BETTER GO ANOTHER ROUTE, BECAUSE YOU
03:18:38PM ARE NOT GOING TO GET THERE WITH A DRY ROUTE.
03:18:40PM WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT LOCAL FLOODING ISSUES DOWN THERE.
03:18:43PM OKAY.
03:18:44PM IT IS OUR FAULT.
03:18:45PM MOST OF OUR PROPERTY IS SEVEN OR EIGHT FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
03:18:49PM IF TWO INCHES OF RAIN IN THE SUMMERTIME OCCURRED HIGH TIDE.
03:18:53PM GUESS WHAT, GANDY AND MANHATTAN BECOMES UNDER WATER AND
03:18:59PM TRAFFIC STOPS UNTIL THE TIDE GOES DOWN AND THE WATER GOES.
03:19:02PM THERE IS NOTHING YOUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT CAN TO DO MAKE
03:19:06PM THAT GO AWAY.
03:19:07PM YOUR DIRECTOR -- WE ARE DOING THIS AND THERE AIN'T NOTHING
03:19:11PM YOU CAN DO.
03:19:12PM HIGH TIDE, TWO INCHES OF RAIN, WE HAVE FLOODING.
03:19:15PM WILDFIRE THAT MY GOOD FRIEND JEFF TOMALO A GOOD FRIEND IS
03:19:24PM OUT OF TOWN.
03:19:25PM HE TOOK PRETTY GOOD PICTURES AT HAD IS HOUSE --
03:19:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE OTHER WAY.
03:19:29PM TURN IT OVER.
03:19:29PM >> THIS IS SIDEWAYS.
03:19:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FACE UP SO WE CAN SEE IT.
03:19:36PM >> I AM SORRY.
03:19:37PM I AM USED TO THE OLD ONE.
03:19:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU GO.
03:19:40PM >> THIS IS JUST WEST OF THE POST OFFICE ON OAKELLAR.
03:19:45PM THIS 1 A.M., HURRICANE HELENE COMING IN WITH THE HIGH TIDE
03:19:50PM TO OCCUR ABOUT 2 A.M.
03:19:54PM THE FRONT OF HIS HOUSE IS COMPLETELY FLOODED.
03:19:58PM THE REASON -- I WOKE UP AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING TO GO OUT AND
03:20:08PM GAS MY GENERATOR BECAUSE WE LOSE POWER WHEN A BIRD FARTS.
03:20:12PM IT'S TRUE, OKAY.
03:20:14PM SO I HAVE A GENERATOR.
03:20:15PM I HAVE A GENERATOR RUNNING THE WHOLE TIME DURING HURRICANE
03:20:19PM HELENE.
03:20:19PM I HAD TO GO OUT AND GAS IT.
03:20:21PM I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT TIME GETTING MY FAMILY CAR.
03:20:23PM CORTEZ IS ONE STREET WEST OF MANHATTAN.
03:20:28PM OKAY.
03:20:28PM AND I WENT AND DROVE DOWN AND THE WATER WAS AT COOPER, TWO
03:20:33PM STREETS AWAY.
03:20:34PM I WILL DO THESE REAL QUICK.
03:20:39PM I THINK I GOT -- AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WAS A POND.
03:20:45PM AND BY THE WAY, THIS WAS NOT THE WORST CASE FLOODING THAT
03:20:49PM COULD HAPPEN.
03:20:49PM WE HAD SEVEN FEET OF STORM TIDE.
03:20:52PM A NUMBER OF OUR MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAVE NOT MOVED BACK
03:21:00PM INTO THEIR HOUSE.
03:21:01PM I AM GOING TO TELL YOU ONE THING --
03:21:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, THE TIME IS UP, SIR.
03:21:05PM >> THIS GANDY ACCESS.
03:21:07PM GUESS WHAT --
03:21:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR TIME IS UP.
03:21:10PM >> THEY CAN ONLY TURN RIGHT.
03:21:12PM THEY EXPECT TURN LEFT.
03:21:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR TIME IS UP.
03:21:16PM >> OKAY.
03:21:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:21:17PM DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
03:21:20PM GIVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY AND HE WILL CALL OUT THE NAMES.
03:21:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SYDNEY PASQUA, SR.
03:21:32PM THANK YOU.
03:21:32PM PATRICIA LANGEL.
03:21:36PM THANK YOU.
03:21:36PM AND BILL LANGEL.
03:21:39PM THREE MINUTES PLUS ANOTHER THREE MAKES SIX.
03:21:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:21:44PM >> MAGGIE TRELA.
03:21:46PM HELLO AND GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS LOCATION IS ALREADY SO
03:21:51PM FRAGILE.
03:21:51PM AS THE ATTORNEY SPOKE EARLIER TODAY, THERE IS NO SITUATION
03:21:54PM WHERE THIS IS A ZERO IMPACT.
03:21:56PM AND SO EVEN IF THIS WAS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, I FEEL LIKE
03:22:00PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD STILL BE HERE SAYING, PLEASE HELP US.
03:22:04PM AS HE JUST SAID, WE ARE IN A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA WITH
03:22:07PM MASSIVE ISSUES WITH STORMWATER.
03:22:10PM YOU SAW THE FLOODING AND IT WAS DEVASTATING TO THAT
03:22:13PM NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS PROJECT HAS AS 77.6% IMPERMEABLE SERVICE.
03:22:19PM UNDOUBTEDLY HAVE IMPACT WITH NEW RESIDENTS THAT WILL BE
03:22:24PM POTENTIALLY BE LIVING IN THESE TOWN HOMES.
03:22:26PM WE ARE NOT THE CITY WE WERE IN 2021 OR EVEN 2022.
03:22:30PM WITH THE CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT.
03:22:33PM FLORIDA HAS BUILT MORE NEW PROPERTIES IN HIGH RISK FLOOD
03:22:36PM AREAS THAN ANY OTHER STATE REPORTED IN 2019.
03:22:39PM AND WE JUST CONTINUE TO HAVE RELENTLESS DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS
03:22:43PM PROVEN TO CAUSE INCREDIBLE FLOODING AND DAMAGE TO RESIDENTS
03:22:47PM ALREADY.
03:22:47PM THERE IS A MASSIVE LACK OF PARKING WHICH WILL UNDOUBTEDLY
03:22:53PM CAUSE SAFETY ISSUES AS CAR ALSO PILL.
03:23:00PM WE ALL KNOW TAMPA DRIVERS REALLY CAN'T BE TRUSTED HERE.
03:23:04PM HERE IS THE DEVELOPMENT.
03:23:06PM IF EVEN THERE WAS A RIGHT ACCESS TURN HERE, WE KNOW THEY
03:23:10PM WILL BE UTILIZING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:23:11PM THESE RED LINES HERE MARK NO SIDEWALKS.
03:23:14PM THE ONLY SIDEWALKS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD -- HERE IS A LARGER
03:23:18PM SCALE -- ARE THE GREEN.
03:23:19PM THOSE ARE THE ONLY SIDEWALKS.
03:23:21PM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS OVER A 50% RESIDENTS UNDER THE AGE OF
03:23:26PM 35, AND THIS IS A LARGELY FAMILY-DRIVEN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH
03:23:29PM CHILDREN WHO PLAY IN THE STREETS AND WHOSE PEOPLE WHO WALK THEIR
03:23:32PM DOGS, RUN, RIDE THEIR BICYCLES.
03:23:36PM THE AMOUNT THAT COMES THROUGH HERE WITH THE PROPOSED
03:23:40PM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, IT WILL CAUSE NUMEROUS SAFETY
03:23:43PM ISSUES.
03:23:44PM ONE OF THE BEST NEIGHBORHOODS I BELIEVE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
03:23:46PM AND I WOULD SAY ALSO ONE OF THE BEST FOR TRICK OR TREATING
03:23:50PM WHICH MAY SEEM SILLY TO SAY, BUT IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
03:23:56PM HAS PEOPLE WALK AROUND AND FEEL SAFE WITH THEIR CHILDREN.
03:23:59PM SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL ERASE ALL OF THAT.
03:24:02PM AND NOT AS IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH,
03:24:06PM YOU SEE THE OUTTURN AND THE EFFORT THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE
03:24:10PM THURSDAY AT 1:30 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON HAVING TAKEN
03:24:13PM OFF WORK.
03:24:13PM OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS HAVE IGNORED THEIR TIME TO MEET, TIME
03:24:18PM AND TIME AGAIN.
03:24:19PM THEY HAVE NOT LISTENED.
03:24:21PM THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR MUCH.
03:24:22PM WE ARE ASKING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE A SAY IN THE
03:24:25PM IMPACTS THESE DEVELOPMENTS WILL CAUSE.
03:24:27PM SITE PLAN HAS NUMEROUS INCONSISTENCIES.
03:24:32PM AND ONE THING THAT MAYBE WE HOPE FOR AT THE OUTCOME OF THIS
03:24:36PM IS THAT MAYBE THE DEVELOPER AND THE LANDOWNER WILL LISTEN
03:24:39PM AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WILL LISTEN TO SOME
03:24:41PM OF THEIR CONCERNS MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE ACCESS, THE HEIGHT
03:24:48PM OF THE BUILDING, THE PRIVACY AND THE SAFETY OF THE
03:24:50PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:24:51PM SIMPLE STATISTICS THAT TAMPA IS RANKED EIGHTH IN THE U.S.
03:24:55PM CITIES FOR PEDESTRIAN DEATHS.
03:24:56PM EIGHTH.
03:24:57PM NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF.
03:25:01PM THIRD DEADLIEST FOR BICYCLISTS.
03:25:04PM AND BAYSIDE WEST ALWAYS HAD A DEFICIENT SIDEWALKS AND 50% OF
03:25:11PM THE RESIDENTS ARE YOUNG APPEAR YOUNG FAMILIES ARE WALKING,
03:25:14PM RIDING BIKES AND ROLLERBLADING OUT IN THE STREETS.
03:25:17PM ALL I'M HERE TO SAY TO YOU TODAY TO CONSIDER THE AIM PACT ON
03:25:23PM THE CITY TODAY AND TOMORROW.
03:25:26PM NOT WHAT WE WERE TWO YEARS AGO.
03:25:27PM I UNDERSTAND CITY CODES AROUND LAWS IN PLACE AND WE NEED TO
03:25:35PM CONSIDER THE FUTURE OF YOU ARE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE FUTURE
03:25:37PM OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE FUTURE OF TAMPA.
03:25:39PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:25:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
03:25:41PM COME ON UP.
03:25:42PM DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM AS WELL.
03:25:44PM >> WHAT'S THAT?
03:25:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
03:25:51PM >> I AM SHEA HUGHES.
03:25:53PM I'M A LOCAL AND RAISED AND BORN RESIDENT LIVED IN THE CITY OF
03:25:57PM TAMPA MY ENTIRE LIFE.
03:25:58PM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT IN
03:26:01PM SOUTH TAMPA AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BUILT BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYED
03:26:06PM OVER THOUSANDS PEOPLE OVER MY 42 YEARS IN BUSINESS, KNOWING
03:26:10PM FIRSTHAND HOW HARD IT HAS BECOME FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS TO
03:26:14PM FIND A FOOTHOLD HERE.
03:26:16PM AND WE ARE ATTRACTING GOOD TALENT, ENGINEERS, TEACHERS,
03:26:21PM NURSES, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, BUT YOU Hcw NOT GIVING THEM A
03:26:24PM PLACE TO LIVE WHERE ENTRY-LEVEL HOUSING IS NEARLY
03:26:28PM NONEXISTENT IN SOUTH TAMPA.
03:26:30PM WITHOUT IT, WE RISK LOSING THE VERY PEOPLE WHO WILL BE
03:26:34PM SHAPING THE CITY OF TAMPA'S FUTURE.
03:26:36PM AND THE TOWN HOME PROJECT IS NOT ABOUT OVERDEVELOPMENT, IT
03:26:41PM IS ABOUT OPPORTUNITY.
03:26:41PM IT IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE NEXT GENERATION HAS A
03:26:45PM CHOICE BETWEEN THEIR CAREER AND THEIR COMMUNITY.
03:26:47PM LET'S BE A CITY THAT WELCOMES GROWTH THOUGHTFULLY AND
03:26:52PM RESPONSIBLY.
03:26:52PM AS FAR AS THE PRIVACY ISSUE WITH LANDSCAPING, YOU CAN EASILY
03:26:58PM BUFFER AND PROVIDE PRIVACY FOR THE FIVE OR SIX HOUSES TO THE
03:27:02PM SOUTH.
03:27:02PM TO THE WEST, THERE IS A GIANT RETENTION BOND.
03:27:05PM TO THE EAST, THERE IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THERE.
03:27:07PM SO THE -- THE ONLY PUTTING IN 140 OR 142 UNITS COMPARED TO
03:27:15PM THE DENSITY 120 THAT IS ALLOW IS RESPONSIBLE PLANNING IN MY
03:27:23PM OPINION.
03:27:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:27:25PM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
03:27:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:27:28PM SAY YOUR NAME.
03:27:30PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COURTNEY LOPEZ, I AM 28 YEARS OLD, AND I
03:27:35PM LIVE HERE IN TAMPA.
03:27:36PM I'M HERE TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY
03:27:42PM AFFORDABLE TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT.
03:27:44PM I WANT TO PLANT MY ROOTS IN THE CITY I WORK, SPEND AND
03:27:48PM CONTRIBUTE, I CAN TELL YOU FIRST HAND THAT RENTING A
03:27:51PM SUSTAINABLE AND BUYING A TRADITIONAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME HAS
03:27:54PM BECOME NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE.
03:27:55PM RIGHT NOW, THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IN TAMPA HAS SKYROCKETED
03:27:58PM BEYOND WHAT MANY OF US YOUNG PROFESSIONALS ARE TEACHERS,
03:28:02PM NURSES AND SERVICE WORKERS CAN REASONABLY PERFORM.
03:28:06PM TOWN HOMES A SMART SOLUTION, LOWER COST OF ENTRY, LOWER
03:28:11PM MAINTENANCE AND LON-TERM STABILITY WITHOUT PUSHING THEM OUT
03:28:15PM TO PASCO AND POLK COUNTIES. THIS DEVELOPMENT GIVES PEOPLE
03:28:20PM LIKE ME A CHANCE TO STAY IN A COMMUNITY I GREW UP IN AND
03:28:23PM LOVED PLEASE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT NOT JUST FOR AFFORDABLE
03:28:30PM BUT EQUITY, OPPORTUNITY AND GROWTH THAT INCLUDES EVERYONE.
03:28:33PM THANK YOU.
03:28:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY WERE.
03:28:35PM YES, SIR, COME ON UP.
03:28:37PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:28:38PM >> RANDY THOMAS.
03:28:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LAST OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS OR MORE
03:28:43PM PEOPLE STANDING UP.
03:28:44PM I WAS GOING TO SAY.
03:28:45PM SORRY.
03:28:46PM >> THAT'S OKAY.
03:28:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
03:28:49PM >> RANDY THOMAS.
03:28:50PM I'M HERE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED TOWN HOME
03:28:53PM DEVELOPMENT ON GANDY BOULEVARD.
03:28:54PM AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, OUR CITY IS FACING A SERIOUS HOUSING
03:28:58PM SHORTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO OPTIONS THAT ARE BOTH AFFORDABLE
03:29:02PM AND ACCESSIBLE FOR NEW FAMILIES.
03:29:05PM YOUNG COUPLES, TEACHERS, HEALTH CARE WORKERS WHO WANT TO
03:29:09PM LIVE WHERE THEY WORK ARE BEING PRICED OUT BECAUSE THE
03:29:12PM SUPPLIES ARE NOT THERE TOWN HOME WITH A PRACTICAL SOLUTION.
03:29:18PM MORE AFFORDABLE THAN SINGLE-FAMILY, USE LAND EFFICIENCY AND
03:29:22PM ALLOW FAMILIES TO PUT DOWN ROOTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
03:29:26PM WITHOUT DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS, OUR CITY WILL BE A PLACE
03:29:29PM THAT ONLY WEALTHY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE.
03:29:32PM THIS DEVELOPMENT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
03:29:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:29:36PM YES, SIR.
03:29:40PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:29:42PM >> I AM MATT MITCHELL.
03:29:44PM I HEAD UP A COMPANY BRICADIA WHERE WE EMPLOY SEVERAL YOUNG
03:29:49PM PROFESSIONALS.
03:29:50PM HE HEAR OFTEN IN OUR OFFICE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO FIND
03:29:54PM HOUSING IN SOUTH TAMPA.
03:29:55PM YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT ZILLOW, THERE ARE
03:29:58PM EXACTLY ZERO HOMES UNDER $1 MILLION.
03:30:01PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BETWEEN KENNEDY AND GANDY.
03:30:03PM SO I -- I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
03:30:06PM I DO THINK THAT IT WILL HELP PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
03:30:10PM FOR EMPLOYEES LIKE OURS.
03:30:11PM THANK YOU.
03:30:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
03:30:13PM YES, SIR.
03:30:14PM NEXT SPEAKER.
03:30:15PM >> SELLING MY HOUSE FOR $507,000.
03:30:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON BACK UP.
03:30:24PM >> FOR THE RECORD, ZERO HOMES BUILT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS
03:30:27PM THAT ARE UNDER $1 MILLION.
03:30:29PM THANK YOU.
03:30:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
03:30:35PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:30:37PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS.
03:30:39PM DANIEL LUIS.
03:30:40PM A 24-YEAR-OLD YOUNG PROFESSIONAL THAT MOVED TO TAMPA UPON
03:30:44PM GRADUATING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
03:30:45PM GO GATORS.
03:30:46PM AND I AM -- I AM A YOUNG AMERICAN WHO DREAMS SO SOME DAY OWN
03:30:51PM A HOME IN THIS COMMUNITY.
03:30:52PM THAT DREAM SEEMS INCREASINGLY OUT OF REACH.
03:30:55PM SOMEONE WROTE AMERICAN DREAM IS NOT ABOUT OWNING A HOME BUT
03:31:00PM OWNING A PIECE OF YOUR FUTURE, BUILDING WEALTH AND PROVIDING
03:31:03PM SECURITY FOR YOUR FAMILY.
03:31:04PM I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD WEALTH AND
03:31:07PM SECURITY FOR MY FUTURE FAMILY ONE DAY.
03:31:09PM BUT AS THAT DREAM BECOMES MORE UNTENABLE, SIMPLE FIX THAT I
03:31:15PM LEARNED ON THE FIRST DAY OF ECONOMICS, INCREASE SUPPLY AND
03:31:20PM YOU MAKE THE OPPORTUNITIES MORE AFFORDABLE.
03:31:22PM AS THOSE DESPERATE TO DREAM THE AMERICAN DREAM, THAT WAS AN
03:31:26PM AMERICAN REALITY FOR YOU ALL.
03:31:27PM ALL I ASK FOR TO YOU JUST GIVE US THAT SAME CHANCE TO DREAM.
03:31:31PM WHEN MY GRANDPARENTS WERE BORN IN 1940 OR SO, MOST OF LAND
03:31:38PM WAS BARREN IN THIS GREAT DEVELOPING NATION.
03:31:40PM 1 2 MILLION AMERICANS AT THE TIME.
03:31:43PM AMERICANS CAN TANGIBLY REACH OUT, GRASP AND BUILD THEIR OWN
03:31:49PM AMERICAN DREAM.
03:31:49PM TODAY THEY ARE 332 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.
03:31:52PM FORTUNATELY AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS MUCH MORE DEMAND FOR
03:31:55PM HOMES ACROSS THE BOARD.
03:31:57PM THERE IS ANOTHER STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN TODAY AND BACK THEN.
03:32:00PM MASSIVE INVESTOR GROUPS BUYING LAND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
03:32:04PM WE ARE DEALING WITH LOW SUPPLY, RISING PRICES, AND HIGHER
03:32:08PM INTEREST RATES.
03:32:09PM COUPLE THAT WITH LIMITED NEW CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE OF STRICT
03:32:12PM ZONING LAWS, HIGH CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND CITY COUNCIL
03:32:16PM DECIDING FOR PEOPLE TO AFFORD A HOME TO RAISE A FAMILY.
03:32:20PM AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS JUST THAT, A DREAM.
03:32:23PM I IMPLORE YOU THAT MYSELF AND OTHERS ARE NOT ABLE TO PURSUE
03:32:33PM THIS DREAM.
03:32:33PM THERE IS CONCERN IT COULD CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE
03:32:36PM COMMUNITY.
03:32:37PM I RESPECT THE CHARM AND OF THIS TOWN WHICH IS I DIDN'T WANT
03:32:41PM TO LIVE HERE.
03:32:42PM THIS PLAN BRINGS DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS TO ALLOW PEOPLE
03:32:46PM LIKE ME WHO ARE NOT MILLIONAIRES IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN
03:32:50PM THEIR HOMES TO HAVE A SHOT OF BELONGING THERE.
03:32:52PM NOT ABOUT ERASE HISTORY.
03:32:56PM THIS WILL NOT FIX ALL OF THOSE PROBLEMS OFFERS US A CHANCE
03:33:03PM TO BUILD A HOME AND PLANT EQUITY AND ROOTS IN A PLACE WE
03:33:06PM LOVE.
03:33:07PM DENYING DOES NOT PRESERVE A VISION OF THIS TOWN BUT MAKES IT
03:33:11PM IMPOSSIBLE FOR OTHERS TO JOIN IN THE GREAT TRADITION.
03:33:14PM COUNCIL MEMBERS, VOTE YES ON THIS PLAN.
03:33:17PM NOT ABOUT HOUSES BUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FAIR SHOT FOR THE
03:33:21PM POPULATION.
03:33:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME UP.
03:33:27PM LAST SPEAKER WILL BE STEPHANIE POYNOR.
03:33:31PM >> PAUL HAUSMEN.
03:33:32PM I'M A HEALTH CARE ENTREPRENEUR LIVING AND WORKING HERE IN TAMPA.
03:33:35PM I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE TOWN HOME
03:33:38PM DEVELOPMENT ON GANDY BOULEVARD.
03:33:39PM SOMEONE THAT RUN AS GROWING HEALTH CARE BUSINESS, I KNOW
03:33:42PM FIRST HAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR OUR WORK FORCE TO HAVE
03:33:46PM RELIABLE, HOUSING OPTION.
03:33:49PM THIS LOCATION IS WHY IDEAL FOR COMMUTERS.
03:33:52PM CONNECTS TO DOWNTOWN, WEST SHORE AND BRANDON WHICH ALL ARE
03:33:56PM MAJOR EMPLOYMENT HUBS.
03:33:59PM THAT KIND OF ACCESSIBLE FOR WORK PROFESSIONALS HEALTH CARE
03:34:04PM STAFF.
03:34:04PM PROVIDE MUCH-NEEDED ENTRY LEVEL HOUSING CLOSE TO JOBS,
03:34:09PM TRANSIT AND CLOSE TO OPPORTUNITY AND HELPS ADDRESS TAMPA'S
03:34:12PM HOUSING SHORT AND IN AT THAT SMART STRATEGIC WAY.
03:34:16PM I URGE TO YOU SUPPORT THIS PROJECT WILL AND DEEP TAMPA
03:34:19PM MOVING FORWARD.
03:34:19PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:34:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:34:23PM MR. LUM, ARE YOU PART OF THE PROPERTY OWNER PROJECT,
03:34:26PM ANYTHING?
03:34:28PM >> I WAS JUST TRYING TO COMMENT.
03:34:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT YOU HAVE A FINANCIAL STAKE.
03:34:36PM YOU PART OF THE TYLER HUDSON GROUP.
03:34:38PM >> THAT'S FINE.
03:34:39PM MR. SHELBY?
03:34:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THAT -- MR. HUDSON OR
03:34:48PM MR. DACHEPALLI SUGGEST THAT MR. LUM WOULD SPEAK DURING YOUR
03:34:54PM REBUTTALS?
03:34:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF IT IS MR. LUM.
03:34:58PM >> BEN DACHEPALLI, BRADLEY LAW FIRM.
03:35:04PM MR. LUM IS NOT A PROPERTY OWNER AND NOT ONE OF MY CLIENTS.
03:35:09PM BUT MR. GRIES WILL BE USING SOME REBUTTAL TIME TO MAKE A
03:35:14PM STATEMENT WHICH IS ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS I'M HERE TO
03:35:17PM REPRESENT.
03:35:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU CAN JUST
03:35:20PM GIVE ME A MINUTE?
03:35:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
03:35:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT BEING THE CASE AND THAT
03:35:48PM REPRESENTATION.
03:35:48PM IT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED THAT MR. LUM WOULD SPEAK.
03:35:51PM AND HE SAID -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I AM NOT CLEAR WHAT MR.
03:35:55PM LUM'S POSITION IS, BUT LET ME STATE THAT ONE OF THE
03:35:58PM QUASI-JUDICIAL RULES THAT STATE ALL PERSON WHO PROVIDE
03:36:01PM TESTIMONY AND INFORMATION AND OPINION, AND A PETITION OF
03:36:03PM QUASI-JUDICIAL BEFORE CITY COUNCIL MUST DISCLOSE ANY DIRECT
03:36:07PM OR INDIRECT BUSINESS AND PERSONAL INTEREST OF THE PETITIONER
03:36:11PM AND APPLICANT THAT IS REQUESTING ACTION.
03:36:13PM INFORMATION SHALL NOT BE USED TO DENY THE PETITION OF THE
03:36:17PM MATTER BEFORE YOU GOES TO THE WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE, INFORMATION
03:36:19PM AND OPINION PROVIDED.
03:36:20PM AND I SHOULD SAY THAT HE -- HE -- I DON'T THINK -- HE IS NOT
03:36:27PM PART OF MR. TRELA'S PRESENTATION WHO IS THE ONE THAT IS
03:36:31PM BRINGING THIS REVIEW HEARING REQUEST.
03:36:34PM SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE KNOWING MR. LUM TO ALLOW HIM THE
03:36:39PM OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
03:36:39PM DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS.
03:36:52PM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
03:36:56PM IN PURSUANT TO RULE 6-G, MR. LUM CAN SPEAK.
03:36:59PM HE HAS TO DISCLOSE IF HE HAS A FINANCIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
03:37:03PM ANY OF THE ENTITIES.
03:37:04PM IF HE DOES I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM -- UNQUESTIONABLY HE IS
03:37:08PM ALLOWED TO SPEAK AND I URGE YOU TO ALLOW HIM TO DO SO WITH
03:37:11PM THE REQUISITE DISCLAIMER AND YOUR RULES.
03:37:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
03:37:17PM DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
03:37:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT --
03:37:26PM >> I WILL DO IT.
03:37:26PM >> FOR SOME REASON, THIS IS BLURRY.
03:37:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S GET IF IN FOCUS.
03:37:32PM A WHEEL ON THE TOP.
03:37:33PM >> I TRIED THAT AND IT DIDN'T HELP.
03:37:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEE IF THE TV FOLKS.
03:37:38PM >> I DID IT.
03:37:39PM IT IS NOT HELPING.
03:37:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOOKS LIKE IT IS STUCK.
03:37:43PM >> MAKING IT BLURRY.
03:37:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.
03:37:47PM DOES CARROLL ANN BENNETT HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
03:37:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SHE DOES.
03:37:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIGHT THERE WITH THE BLUE.
03:38:00PM [OFF MIC]
03:38:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIX NAMES WITH NINE MINUTES.
03:38:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:38:19PM >> HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
03:38:21PM THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD HAVE HAD NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT.
03:38:23PM IF THE DEVELOP WILL MAKE A FEW CHANGES, THE COMMUNITY WILL
03:38:26PM SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
03:38:27PM I KNOW THIS, BECAUSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HAD THREE OTHER
03:38:30PM MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY SUPPORTED.
03:38:32PM THOSE OTHER DEVELOPERS GOT COMMUNITY SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY
03:38:35PM LISTENED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUILD HIGH QUALITY
03:38:38PM PROBLEMS.
03:38:39PM YOU KNOW THIS IS A POORLY DESIGNED PROBABLY BECAUSE FOUR
03:38:42PM DEPARTMENTS FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.
03:38:45PM STORMWATER AND RIGHT-OF-WAY SAID THE RETENTION POND IS IN
03:38:49PM THE WRONG PLACE.
03:38:49PM OVER A PUBLIC WATER EASEMENT AND A TECO EASEMENT.
03:38:54PM BIG RED FLAGS THEY ARE TRYING TO CRAM TOO MUCH ON THIS SITE.
03:38:58PM REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY SAY, ON THE SITE PLAN, THESE GARAGES
03:39:02PM ARE ONLY 18 X 18, A TWO-CAR GARAGE ONLY IN MAKE-BELIEVE
03:39:08PM WORLD.
03:39:09PM TO MAKE THESE GARAGES TRUE, THEY WILL TO REDUCE THE NUMBER
03:39:13PM OF UNITS.
03:39:14PM THAT IS WHAT THEY SHOULD IT DO.
03:39:16PM IN THE REAL WORLD WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVE THESE ARE
03:39:19PM ONE-CAR GARAGES.
03:39:20PM MYTHICAL TWO-CAR GARAGES TO MEET THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENT.
03:39:25PM THEY SAY THEY HAVE 254 GARAGE SPACES, BUT IN THE REAL WORLD
03:39:30PM 127 BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL ONE-CAR GARAGES.
03:39:33PM THEY DO NOT MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
03:39:35PM ALL THE FUTURE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE TRICKED HOW MAD
03:39:41PM WHEN THEY FIND OUT THEY ARE BEING SOLD FAKE GAR RAGES.
03:39:45PM WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK?
03:39:47PM THEY PARK IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
03:39:49PM CITY COUNCIL CAN ONLY FIT THE FRONT HALF OF YOUR CARS IN
03:39:53PM THESE DRIVEWAYS.
03:39:54PM THE BACK HALF WOULD BE IN THE STREET.
03:39:56PM THEY ARE GOING TO PARK HERE ALL ALONG OAKELLAR AND
03:40:02PM CORTEZ, HESPERIDES AND GAINS.
03:40:05PM IF THE ACCESS TO OAKELLAR WAS REMOVED, IT WOULD RESOLVE A
03:40:10PM MAJOR PROBLEM AND OBJECTION?
03:40:18PM IS THIS WHAT TAMPA WANTS?
03:40:19PM NO REASON THEY CAN'T BUILD A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT
03:40:24PM EVERYBODY WILL BE PROUD OF.
03:40:25PM THEY SEAT THIS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
03:40:29PM BUT THE ENVIRONMENT FOR DIRECT ACCESS.
03:40:32PM THEY DO NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS.
03:40:34PM THE E-MAIL TO THE APPLICANT SAID IT DOES NOT HAVE A DIRECT
03:40:38PM ACCESS.
03:40:38PM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT SAYS IT IS DOES NOT HAVE
03:40:41PM DIRECT ACCESS TRANSPORTATION SAYS THEY ONLY HAVE
03:40:47PM CROSSACCESS.
03:40:48PM TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT FINDS IT INCONSISTENT BECAUSE THEY
03:40:50PM ARE PROVIDING CROSS ACCESS INSTEAD OF DIRECT ACCESS.
03:40:54PM DOES THE CODE SAY BOTH ARE OKAY?
03:40:58PM NO, IT DOES NOT.
03:40:59PM IT SPECIFIES DIRECT ACCESS.
03:41:01PM IT IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME THIS WAS APPROVED WHEN IT
03:41:05PM OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF 27-1372.
03:41:09PM BECAUSE IT IS ONLY CROSS ACCESS, THE TRANSPORTATION
03:41:13PM DEPARTMENT REQUIRED A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
03:41:16PM THAT HAS NOT WITHIN DONE A TRIP GENERATION IS NOT A TRAFFIC
03:41:22PM ANALYSIS AND THEY REQUIRE AN ENGINEERED SITE PLAN SHOWING
03:41:26PM THE CROSS ACCESS, SHARED DRIVE AISLE AND THE APRON TO GANDY.
03:41:32PM DOES IT LOOK LIKE THIS LITTLE YELLOW LINE SATISFIES THAT
03:41:36PM REQUIREMENTS?
03:41:36PM I DON'T SEE AN ENGINEERED SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS AN APRON TO
03:41:41PM GANDY.
03:41:41PM BECAUSE THIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE ACCORDING TO THE
03:41:45PM TRANSPORTATION REQUIREMENT, IT DOES NOT MEET THE
03:41:47PM REQUIREMENTS OF THE SPECIAL USE AND WHY THEY FOUND
03:41:50PM INCONSISTENT.
03:41:50PM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S INCONSISTENT MEANS IT DOES
03:41:54PM NOT MEET OF THE ENVIRONMENTS FOR SPECIAL USE.
03:42:00PM IN ADDITION 27-282.10, MULTIFAMILY TOWN HOUSE STYLE DESIGN
03:42:07PM STANDARD INSTEAD OF 282.8.
03:42:10PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR USED THE WRONG STANDARD WHEN THEY
03:42:15PM EVALUATED THIS.
03:42:16PM THAT IS BECAUSE POINT 8 CAN BE APPLIED IF SINGLE-FAMILY
03:42:25PM DETACHED ON THE STREET RIGHT NEXT TO IT AND ACROSS THE
03:42:29PM STREET FROM IT.
03:42:30PM THIS PROBABLY HAS NEITHER.
03:42:36PM THE APPLICANT KNOWS IT MUST COMPLY BECAUSE RIGHT THERE ON
03:42:38PM THEIR SITE PLAN BUT THEN THEY HAVE THE WRONG TITLE THAT GOES
03:42:41PM WITH THAT SECTION OF THE CODE.
03:42:43PM AND IT DOES NOT MEET THOSE STANDARDS.
03:42:45PM MULTIFAMILY TOWN HOUSE STYLE REQUIRES BOTH THE SIDE AND THE
03:42:52PM BACK WALL TO BE ATTACHED.
03:42:53PM IN DOES NOT MEET THAT REQUIRED STANDARD.
03:42:58PM IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT NONE OF THE UNITS CAN FACE THE SIDE
03:43:01PM LOT LINES.
03:43:02PM ALL THESE UNITS FACE THE SIDE LOT LINES.
03:43:10PM IT REQUIRES THE UNITS TO FACE A COURTYARD OR STREET.
03:43:16PM ALL OF THESE UNITS, NONE OF THEM MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
03:43:20PM AND ITS NOT JUST.10 THAT HAS THE REQUIREMENTS.
03:43:25PM ALL TOWN HOUSE STYLES DO.
03:43:30PM THIS PROJECT DOES NOT MEET ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF SU-1.
03:43:34PM HOW DID THIS GET APPROVED?
03:43:36PM PEOPLE IN LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS ARE REQUESTING APPROVALS
03:43:39PM LIKE SAYING THAT SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND WEST TAMPA OVERLAYS
03:43:44PM ARE GETTING IGNORED.
03:43:45PM POINT OUT MISTAKES AND SAY OOPS, SORRY.
03:43:49PM CODE IS NOT FOLLOWED AND BUILDERS ARE ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS
03:43:54PM INSTEAD OF PERMISSION AFTER APPLYING AFTER THE BUILDINGS ARE
03:43:57PM ALREADY BUILT.
03:43:59PM THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE STOMACH TO TEAR DOWN THEIR
03:44:03PM MISTAKES, AND THIS PROBABLY GETS AWARDED WITH. THIS APPROVAL
03:44:08PM IS AN EXAMPLE WHY PEOPLE HAVE SAYING THESE THINGS.
03:44:10PM THE ZONING MASTER USED THE WRONG STANDARD.
03:44:14PM DOES NOT MEET ANY OF THE SU-1 OF 27-132 AND SHOULD NEVER
03:44:20PM HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
03:44:21PM PLEASE OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATION.
03:44:24PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OF THE ZERO HOMES THAT
03:44:27PM ARE BEING BUILT.
03:44:28PM HE GUESS THE EIGHT HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ON MY STREET
03:44:32PM WHERE THERE USED TO BE TWO ARE JUST MY IMAGINATION?
03:44:43PM THE DATA FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT SOUTH TAMPA
03:44:47PM HAS THE HIGHEST GROWTH RATE IN THE CITY IS SOMEONE'S
03:44:51PM IMAGINATION?
03:44:52PM WHAT I SAY IS, BUILD THESE IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING
03:44:56PM DISTRICT WHICH HAD A 1% GROWTH RATE WHERE THEY CAN SHELTER
03:45:01PM IN PLACE.
03:45:02PM WHERE JEAN DUNCAN SAID IS THE BEST PLACE TO INCREASE
03:45:06PM TRANSPORTATION.
03:45:06PM WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT
03:45:10PM SAYS THE JOB CENTERS ARE.
03:45:12PM BUILD THIS THERE.
03:45:14PM THAT IS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.
03:45:15PM SOUTH TAMPA HAS DONE ITS FAIR SHARE IN CONTRIBUTING TO THE
03:45:20PM HOUSING SUPPLY.
03:45:21PM IF EVERY DISTRICT IN THE CITY HAS THE SAME GROWTH RATE AS
03:45:26PM SOUTH TAMPA, WE WOULD HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE UNITS.
03:45:29PM WHEN EVERY DISTRICT IN THE CITY EQUALS THE GROWTH RATE OF
03:45:33PM SOUTH TAMPA, THEN COME TALK TO ME OF SOUTH TAMPA NEEDING TO
03:45:37PM HELP WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS.
03:45:38PM THANK YOU.
03:45:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STEPHANIE POYNOR.
03:45:45PM DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.>> WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT?
03:45:56PM >> I DON'T CARE.
03:45:57PM IT DOESN'T MATTER.
03:45:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JOHN LUM, YOU WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.
03:46:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SEVEN NAMES.
03:46:06PM SHARON ROOSEVELT.
03:46:07PM JOYCE KILBREATH.
03:46:09PM THANK YOU.
03:46:10PM JOYCE PRATHER, THANK YOU.
03:46:12PM LORI DUSOL.
03:46:16PM STEPHANIE DOSOL, RACHEL SAMPLE.
03:46:20PM AND MARY BATE SABO.
03:46:23PM THANK YOU.
03:46:23PM SEVEN PLUS THREE, TEN MINUTES TOTAL, PLEASE.
03:46:27PM >> THANK YOU.
03:46:28PM MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
03:46:30PM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THREE GROUPS HERE, THE OWNERS, THE
03:46:34PM APPLICANTS -- THEY ARE NOT THE APPLICANTS, THEY ARE THE
03:46:37PM DEVELOPERS.
03:46:37PM LET'S CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE.
03:46:38PM ONE GROUP IS THE OWNERS.
03:46:40PM ONE GROUP IS THE DEVELOPERS.
03:46:42PM AND THEN THERE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:46:44PM WELL, IT IS FUNNY HOW PUBLIC COMMENT ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO
03:46:47PM DID NOT WEAR RED TODAY WHO ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
03:46:50PM THE DEVELOPERS OR THE APPLICANTS, I DON'T KNOW.
03:46:52PM ANYWAY, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE, THREE GROUPS HERE.
03:46:56PM I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT MR. HUDSON -- MR. HUDSON'S
03:47:02PM CLIENTS DID NOT FILE THIS SU-1.
03:47:04PM THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY FILED THE SU-1.
03:47:07PM THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY NEVER TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:47:10PM YOU CAN ASK MR. TRELA.
03:47:12PM SO PLEASE POINT -- TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THINK
03:47:16PM ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
03:47:17PM BECAUSE WHEN THEY STAND UP HERE AROUND SAID THEY MET WITH
03:47:22PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, GUESS WHAT, THE DEVELOPER MET WITH THE
03:47:25PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANTS DID NOT.
03:47:26PM THEY IGNORED US.
03:47:29PM OKAY.
03:47:29PM RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU LIVE IN BAYSIDE WEST OR SOUTH TAMPA,
03:47:34PM PLEASE.
03:47:34PM THANK YOU.
03:47:35PM AND THERE ARE A FEW IN HERE THAT LEFT.
03:47:39PM GO FIGURE.
03:47:39PM I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU I AM AMAZED OF THE BIG GUNS WHO
03:47:44PM ROLLED IN HERE TODAY.
03:47:45PM PEOPLE WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN YEARS TO COME SIT IN THE GALLERY
03:47:49PM JUST FOR THIS LITTLE OL' CASE.
03:47:51PM I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, IF THEY WERE
03:47:54PM HOT AND HEAVY TO SELL, THEY HAD -- THEY HAD A REZONING IN
03:47:58PM '21 THAT THEY LIVED THROUGH.
03:48:00PM THEY HAD ANOTHER -- SU-1 OR REZONING IN '22.
03:48:04PM OKAY.
03:48:05PM BUT SINCE 2020, THERE HAVE BEEN 11 CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES.
03:48:11PM NOT JUST COMPLAINTS, BUT CASES AGAINST THIS PROPERTY.
03:48:14PM IF YOU WANT HIGH DOLLAR FOR YOUR PROPERTY, YOU DON'T BELIEVE
03:48:16PM IT LIKE A TRASH PILE.
03:48:18PM SORRY, NOT SORRY.
03:48:19PM THEY DIDN'T EVEN PUT A FENCE UP.
03:48:22PM TWO MONTHS, WAH, WAH.
03:48:27PM SORRY.
03:48:28PM I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO START ASKING PEOPLE'S ADDRESSES
03:48:31PM WHEN THEY GET UP AND SPEAK.
03:48:32PM THE APPLICANT -- LET ME SEE HERE.
03:48:35PM I GOT MYSELF SCREWED AROUND IF -- PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.
03:48:42PM I LOVE HAD LIVE LOCAL THREAT.
03:48:44PM BULLYING WITH LIVE LOCAL IS A NEW THING.
03:48:48PM PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ASK MR. HUDSON'S CLIENTS IF THEY DO
03:48:52PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
03:48:53PM BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY DON'T.
03:48:55PM THEY BUILD REALLY NICE FANCY HOUSES.
03:48:57PM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY GOT HERE TODAY.
03:49:00PM OKAY.
03:49:01PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS LIVE LOCAL.
03:49:05PM OWNER ALSO HAVE TO SHOP THIS OUT AGAIN.
03:49:09PM TWO MONTHS WEREN'T LOST TO THE LIVE LOCAL.
03:49:12PM GIVE ME A BREAK.
03:49:13PM I ALSO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, I LIKE THE WORD COMPETENT
03:49:18PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO SAY IT AND
03:49:20PM MANY OTHER FOLKS WILL LEARN HOW TO SAY IT TOO.
03:49:23PM IN PARAGRAPH IN THIS LETTER THAT YOU GOT YESTERDAY IS NOT
03:49:26PM COMPETENT TO OR SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
03:49:29PM THANK YOU.
03:49:29PM CARROLL ANNEPOINTED OUT ALL THE STUFF WHERE THE DOOR GOES
03:49:32PM AND THE GROUND FLOOR ENTRANCE.
03:49:34PM THIS IS WHAT KILLS ME.
03:49:41PM THIS IS THE INTERIOR.
03:49:42PM CAN YOU SEE NO DOORS INTO THE HOUSE.
03:49:44PM 18 FOOT BY 19 BUT YOU KNOW THIS LADY AND THEY HAVE BEEN HERE
03:50:23PM BEFORE.
03:50:23PM STEPHANIE POYNOR TAUGHT EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL HOW BIG THEIR
03:50:32PM CARS ARE, AND MR. VIERA'S TRUCK IS FOUR INCHES HIGH OF THE
03:50:38PM 18 INTO THE.
03:50:39PM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE TO SEE MR.
03:50:42PM ELIJAH GREEN UP IN HERE.
03:50:43PM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM UNDER OATH ANSWERING QUESTIONS,
03:50:46PM BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING SHADY.
03:50:48PM OKAY.
03:50:48PM SO MR. GREEN SAYS DIRECT ACCESS.
03:50:52PM THIS APPROVAL LETTER WHICH IS ALSO SIGNED BY MR. GREEN SAYS
03:50:59PM DIRECT ACCESS.
03:50:59PM SAYS DIRECT ACCESS ON THIS OTHER DOCUMENT I DON'T KNOW WHAT
03:51:03PM IT IS CALLED BUT ANYWAY, SAYS DIRECT ACCESS.
03:51:06PM LOOK AT THIS, OH, MY GOD.
03:51:08PM IT IS A TRANSPORTATION REPORT FROM OUR FAVORITE
03:51:11PM TRANSPORTATION GUY, JONATHAN SCOTT.
03:51:15PM LOOK IT SAYS.
03:51:17PM FROM TRANSPORTATION FOLKS.
03:51:19PM THE TRANSPORTATION FOLKS SAY CROSS-ACCESS.
03:51:22PM NOT CORRECT, BUT YET THE PEOPLE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SAY
03:51:28PM DIRECT, DIRECT, DIRECT.
03:51:29PM WHERE IS MR. SCOTT?
03:51:31PM LET'S HEAR FROM HIM AS WELL, AND HAVE HIM UNDER OATH.
03:51:33PM NOW THIS IS THE 15-FOOT, EIGHT-INCH DRIVEWAY IN MY
03:51:38PM NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH YOU ALL KNOW IS DEFICIENT DRIVEWAYS ALL
03:51:42PM OVER THE PLACE.
03:51:43PM AND SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT THIS CAR CAN'T PARK IN THAT
03:51:49PM DRIVEWAY.
03:51:49PM BACK AND FORTH.
03:51:51PM OKAY.
03:51:52PM BUT ON THIS SITE PLAN, AND I AM SORRY, I DID NOT BRING IT
03:51:57PM UP.
03:51:57PM I USUALLY DO, AND I TOTALLY FORGET, BUT THIS DRIVEWAYS ARE
03:52:02PM 9 FOOT OR 12 FOOT.
03:52:04PM EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL KNOW THAT CHARLIE HAS THE SMALLEST CAR
03:52:07PM UP THERE AND HIS IS ALMOST 15 FEET.
03:52:09PM NOT ONE OF THESE DRIVEWAYS WILL ANY OF YOUR VEHICLES FIT IN.
03:52:14PM MAYBE A SMART CAR.
03:52:16PM JUST A SMART CAR.
03:52:17PM BUT THAT WILL BE ABOUT IT.
03:52:18PM SO I AM JUST TRYING -- HERE IS THE THING.
03:52:21PM AND I -- I AM GOING TO DIGRESS FOR A SECOND.
03:52:24PM WHEN MR. TRELA SAID THAT WE SAT DOWN WITH THE DEVELOPER.
03:52:31PM MIND YOU, I AM NOT SAYING THE OWNER, AND THEY ARE NOT THE
03:52:36PM APPLICANT.
03:52:36PM WE SAT DOWN WITH THE DEVELOPER, WHO DID NOT PUT THIS PLAN
03:52:40PM TOGETHER, OKAY.
03:52:41PM THEY DID NOT SUBMIT THIS PLAN, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
03:52:44PM THEY MAY HAVE PUT IT TOGETHER.
03:52:46PM BUT WE ASKED FOR A VERY, VERY SIMPLE THINGS.
03:52:48PM WE ASKED FOR APPROPRIATELY SIZED GARAGES.
03:52:54PM WE ASKED FOR NOT DEFICIENT DRIVEWAYS.
03:52:58PM WE ASKED FOR LOWER HEIGHTS ON THE UNITS THAT FACE OAKELLAR.
03:53:02PM WE ARE TALKING 15 TO 20 UNITS.
03:53:06PM WE ARE ASKING THEM TO HAVE TWO STORIES INSTEAD OF FOUR.
03:53:09PM NOBODY OUT THERE THAT DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE IN A FOUR-STORY
03:53:13PM TOWNHOUSE?
03:53:15PM I AM SURE THEY ARE.
03:53:16PM BUT THEY SAID, OH, NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
03:53:18PM OH, NO, THAT IS NOT REALLY IMPORTANT.
03:53:21PM YES, IT IS.
03:53:22PM AND AS FOR THE GENTLEMAN WHO GOT UP HERE AND SAID NOTHING
03:53:25PM FOR SALE IN SOUTH TAMPA UNDER $1 MILLION?
03:53:28PM GUESS WHAT, I AM GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW.
03:53:30PM I HAVE A HOUSE LISTED FOR RENT AND ALSO LISTED FOR SALE
03:53:34PM BUILT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND 695,000.
03:53:36PM I HAVE ANOTHER ONE I AM GOING TO PICK UP IN THE NEXT THREE
03:53:39PM OR FOUR WEEKS THAT WILL -- BECAUSE IT IS NOT GETTING SOLD AT
03:53:42PM $625,000.
03:53:43PM AND IT IS -- THESE ARE BOTH FOUR BEDROOMS, THREE BATH DOMAIN
03:53:48PM HOMES IN BEAUTIFUL CONDITION.
03:53:49PM GIVE ME A BREAK.
03:53:50PM THESE AREN'T AFFORDABLE EITHER.
03:53:52PM ASK THEM HOW MUCH THEY ARE GOING TO COST TO BUILD?
03:53:55PM ASK THEM.
03:53:55PM IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE.
03:53:57PM UNFORTUNATELY, FOLKS, THE DOORS AREN'T FACING THE STREET.
03:54:02PM NO DOORS ON THE BACK.
03:54:04PM COMMERCIAL DENSITY.
03:54:08PM GUESS WHAT.
03:54:08PM YOU BUILD A BIG OL' FRICKEN OFFICE BUILDING, GUESS TO
03:54:13PM EVACUATES FROM THERE?
03:54:14PM NOBODY!
03:54:15PM NOBODY EVACUATES FROM AN OFFICE BUILDING.
03:54:17PM NOBODY EVACUATES FROM A DENTIST OFFICE.
03:54:20PM NOBODY EVACUATES FROM A GROCERY STORE OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT
03:54:23PM IS COMMERCIAL.
03:54:24PM BUT YET WE ARE GOING TO PUT ALL THESE FOLKS HERE.
03:54:27PM AND SIMPLY -- IS WHAT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO.
03:54:32PM HAD THEY JUST DONE A REASON REASONABLE ACCOMODATION FOR THIS
03:54:39PM COMMUNITY, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
03:54:40PM IF THEY HAVE JUST DONE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION WHICH
03:54:44PM MEANS MAKING ENOUGH SPARKING SPACES ON THEIR PROPERTY FOR
03:54:47PM THE VEHICLES THAT WILL LIVE THERE.
03:54:49PM WHICH WILL MEAN IF YOU DO NOT BUILD A MONSTER BUILDING NEXT
03:54:53PM DOOR TO SOMEBODY'S SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
03:54:56PM IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE.
03:54:59PM AND, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A REZONING OR
03:55:03PM A PD.
03:55:04PM ONE OR THE OTHER.
03:55:06PM I AM SURE IT SHOULD HAVE.
03:55:07PM BUT YET WE ARE GOING TO PLAY GAMES.
03:55:10PM WHO APPROVED IT.
03:55:11PM WHY THEY APPROVED IT.
03:55:12PM AND WHY ISN'T HE HERE.
03:55:13PM WE HAVE BABY LAND USE FOLKS WHO COME HERE ALL THE TIME AND
03:55:19PM START TALKING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, BUT THERE IS A REASON WHY
03:55:22PM SOMEBODY IS NOT HERE TODAY.
03:55:23PM THANK YOU.
03:55:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. LUM, PLEASE COME UP.
03:55:26PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
03:55:27PM YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER.
03:55:28PM >> HELLO, JOHN LUM, LIST DEVELOPERS, BAY POINT CIRCLE.
03:55:35PM SOMEBODY PULL THAT THAT UP.
03:55:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON TOP.
03:55:44PM WHERE YOUR THUMB IS AT.
03:55:46PM >> THAT IS SMART.
03:55:47PM THERE YOU GO.
03:55:48PM THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR YOUR TIME.
03:55:49PM LARRY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DISCUSSION AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
03:55:52PM SERVICE.
03:55:52PM LARRY'S HOUSE IS, LIKE, RIGHT HERE.
03:55:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T SEE YET.
03:55:59PM >> THE REASON LARRY DISCUSSED HE HAD TO GO TWO BLOCKS OVER
03:56:05PM TO FIND FLOODED HOUSES.
03:56:06PM HIS TWO STREETS DIDN'T FLOOD. THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT DIDN'T
03:56:11PM FLOOD EITHER.
03:56:12PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO WATER TAKEN ON THE CHURCH WHICH
03:56:16PM IS ON GRADE THAT WE WILL SHOW YOU A PICTURE RIGHT THERE.
03:56:19PM IT DID NOT TODAY.
03:56:21PM ANYWAY, THIS IS -- THIS IS 1954 ESTATES THAT WERE
03:56:27PM ESTABLISHED.
03:56:27PM AND IN MY ESTIMATION.
03:56:29PM THEY SOMEHOW -- THEY PUT THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT
03:56:32PM BESIDE THIS VERY DENSE RS-60 ZONING.
03:56:36PM I DIDN'T DO IT, BUT I AM GOING TO GET BLAMED FOR IT.
03:56:39PM THIS -- THESE THREE STREETS, THE MOST IMPORTANT STREETS ARE
03:56:43PM CLOSED OFF AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF ARE NOT AS DIRECTLY
03:56:46PM IMPACTED.
03:56:46PM BUT THESE THREE STREETS HERE, ME, MY PARTNER BOB AND I MADE
03:56:53PM THE DECISION TO PUT A FENCE RIGHT WHERE THE BLUE LINE -- NO
03:56:56PM LONGER -- TWO ACCESSES NORTH ON OAKELLAR.
03:56:59PM WE CLOSED THEM OFF.
03:57:01PM WE PROMISED FOLKS -- WHEN I MET WITH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE
03:57:04PM THERE -- AND THEY HAD ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, "SLOW DOWN, KIDS
03:57:07PM ARE PLAYING: SIGNS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
03:57:09PM I GUARANTEE THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT THAT LITTLE DEVELOPMENT
03:57:12PM HAS BEEN BLOCKED OFF ON THE NORTH SIDE.
03:57:14PM NO CARS COMING FROM THE SOUTH AND SCARING THE MOTHERS AND A
03:57:19PM LOT OF MOMS WITH YOUNG KID AND WE WANT TO TAKE INTO FACT.
03:57:23PM AND THAT'S WHY WE DID -- THE ONLY NORTHERN ACCESS IS TO THE
03:57:28PM EAST OF THE MOST EASTERLY STREET.
03:57:32PM I AM A NASTY OL' DEVELOPER EVERYBODY DIDN'T HATE ME.
03:57:38PM I TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THAT DON'T WANT CARS GOING THROUGH THE
03:57:42PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:57:42PM WE FOR THE BUILDING DOWN, IT THEIR LIVES ARE BETTER THAN
03:57:47PM WHEN ALL OF THAT STUFF WAS GOING ON.
03:57:49PM THERE ARE THE LITTLE SIGNS.
03:57:50PM I SEE THEM.
03:57:51PM BE MR. DOSOL.
03:57:54PM I TALKED TO THEM NUMEROUS TIMES. THIS PLACE DID NOT FLOOD.
03:57:58PM LAST THING AND THAT YOU GUYS ARE MISSING ON THE SITE PLAN,
03:58:01PM THE DRIVEWAY FROM FACE TO FACE ARE 45, 43 FEET WIDE.
03:58:05PM WE ARE ASKED TO DO 24 FEET.
03:58:08PM ALMOST DOING DOUBLE THAT, OKAY.
03:58:10PM WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAYS IN THE SUBDIVISION.
03:58:13PM PEOPLE WHO WILL PULL UP IN FRONT OF THEIR DOORS AND FIND A
03:58:17PM PLACE TO PARK.
03:58:18PM WE HAD AMPLE VISITOR PARKING.
03:58:20PM IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CHART.
03:58:21PM BUT THIS A VERY WELL-DONE SUBDIVISION.
03:58:25PM MAYBE YOU GUYS REMEMBER THIS LITTLE MAP.
03:58:28PM GUYS, THIS IS THE MISSING MIDDLE.
03:58:32PM YOU TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR, THE BIG GROWING CONCERN FOR
03:58:35PM ALL OF YOU PEOPLE AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IS MISSING MIDDLE.
03:58:39PM WE NEED A PLACE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO BUY AND LIVE
03:58:42PM IN THIS EXPENSIVE TOWN.
03:58:43PM THAT'S IT.
03:58:44PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
03:58:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:58:48PM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:58:51PM NOW WE GO TO ANY AN ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS, IF ANY.
03:58:55PM IF NOT I WILL GO TO THE REBUTTAL.
03:58:57PM ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF?
03:59:02PM >>LAURA MARLEY: LAURA MARLEY, ZONING COORDINATOR.
03:59:04PM MY STAFF REPORT IN THE PETITION FOR REVIEW, THERE IS SECTION
03:59:08PM 27-130, CONDITIONS AND SAFEGUARDS.
03:59:12PM YOU ALL CAN PUT CONDITIONS ON THIS SPECIAL USE IF YOU CHOOSE
03:59:17PM TO.
03:59:18PM SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
03:59:21PM IF YOU WANTED TO ADD CONDITIONS.
03:59:24PM THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO BE AGREEABLE TO THEM AS WELL,
03:59:28PM BUT YOU CAN ADD CONDITIONS.
03:59:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:59:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO WHAT EXTENT CAN WE ADD CONDITIONS?
03:59:35PM >>LAURA MARLEY: THERE IS NOT A LIMIT ON WHAT KIND OF
03:59:37PM CONDITIONS THAT YOU CAN DO.
03:59:39PM IT BASICALLY SAYS SUCH CONDITIONS AND SAFEGUARD OFF TO STATE
03:59:54PM REASONS FOR THE CONDITIONS AND STANDARDS.
03:59:55PM AND NO CONDITIONS OR SAFEGUARDS SHALL HAVE SPECIAL LIMITATIONS
04:00:03PM AND REQUIREMENTS BEYOND THOSE REASONABLY NECESSARY FOR THE
04:00:06PM ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE PURPOSE.
04:00:07PM SO THIS IS NOT REALLY LIMITED TO.
04:00:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE WANTED TO PUT A STIPULATION OF
04:00:18PM OAKELLAR.
04:00:19PM WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE AS A STIPULATION?
04:00:22PM >>LAURA MARLEY: YOU COULD.
04:00:22PM RIGHT NOW, THE SITE PLAN SHOWS RIGHT-OUT, LEFT-IN ONLY.
04:00:32PM IF YOU WANTED A DIFFERENT CONDITION, DO YOU THAT, YES.
04:00:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO BE CLEAR -- I KNOW WE HEARD FROM A
04:00:38PM LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND WANT TOP HEAR FROM STAFF AND LEGAL
04:00:41PM STAFF.
04:00:41PM WE ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION
04:00:45PM TO ACCEPT THIS AS A SU-1 BASED ON THOSE TWO CRITERIA.
04:00:50PM AND THOSE TWO CRITERIA.
04:00:53PM WHETHER APPROPRIATE FOR A SU-1 OR NOT APPROPRIATE.
04:00:59PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE.
04:00:59PM YES, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO
04:01:04PM CRITERIA IN 27-132 FOR THIS APPLICATION TO CONSIDER.
04:01:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:01:11PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
04:01:13PM I WILL GO TO REBUTTAL BY PROPERTY OWNER OR REPRESENTATIVE.
04:01:15PM AND THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS FIVE MINUTES PLUS 1:0.
04:01:20PM SO 6:08 IS THE TOTAL TIME.
04:01:23PM YES, SIR.
04:01:24PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
04:01:26PM >> MY NAME IS BOB GRIES.
04:01:30PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
04:01:30PM I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY FOR THE
04:01:33PM PAST 34 YEARS.
04:01:34PM DURING THAT TIME, I COMMITTED MYSELF OF GIVING BACK TO IN
04:01:38PM COMMUNITY WHETHER PROVIDE WILLING COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS OF
04:01:41PM NEARLY $1 MILLION TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY STUDENTS OR BEING A
04:01:43PM MAJOR DONOR TO THE USF MEDICAL SCHOOL, THE UNIVERSITY OF
04:01:48PM TAMPA, THE STRAZ CENTER AROUND MANY OTHERS.
04:01:50PM I AM ALSO A RESPECTED BUSINESSMAN, AND SO IS MY PARTNER, JOHN
04:01:55PM LUM, ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED PEOPLE IN THE REAL ESTATE
04:01:57PM COMMUNITY.
04:01:57PM YEARS AGO, WE BUILT THE KERTONA APARTMENTS 300-UNIT OFF OF
04:02:04PM GANDY AND DALE MABRY WHICH WAS A FORMER LANDFILL.
04:02:08PM WE HEARD THE SAME COMPLAINTS.
04:02:10PM BEAUTIFUL 300-HOUSE COMPLEX PROVIDING HOUSING TO FAMILIES
04:02:15PM AND PROVIDING $1.2 MILLION TO THE COUNTY FOR ANNUAL TAXES.
04:02:20PM 25 YEARS ONE RETAIL SITE AFTER THE OTHER HAS FAILED ON THIS
04:02:23PM SITE.
04:02:23PM FAILED, IN FACT, MISERABLY.
04:02:27PM THIS IS NOT A VIABLE RETAIL SITE.
04:02:30PM AND YOU WOULDN'T PUT A PERSON OF YOUR OWN MONEY IN IT AS A
04:02:34PM RETAIL SITE.
04:02:35PM WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED 257-UNIT SIMILAR TO CORTONA MET WITH
04:02:42PM THE SAME OPPOSITION.
04:02:43PM WE DOWNSIZEF IT TO 127 HIGHER-PRICED TOWN HOMES THAT CAN
04:02:50PM SELL.
04:02:51PM 127 TOWN HOMES WOULD NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST WAY IMPACT
04:02:56PM TRAFFIC.
04:02:56PM AND WOULD, IN FACT, HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT OF LESS THAN 10%
04:03:00PM COMPARED TO ANY RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT.
04:03:02PM FROM THE BEGINNING, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RESPECTFULLY AND
04:03:09PM BUY THE RULES WITH RESPECT TO OUR APPLICATION AND THE CODE
04:03:12PM SECTIONS.
04:03:13PM I READ THE 25 NEIGHBORHOOD LETTERS.
04:03:17PM THEY ARE ENTIRELY WITHOUT MERIT, AND THEY CITE FALSE
04:03:22PM STATEMENT.
04:03:22PM THEY SAY BUILD MORE RETAIL OBLIVIOUS WITH THE FACT THAT
04:03:25PM RETAIL HAS NO CHANCE TO SUCCEED.
04:03:28PM THE SAME COMPLAINTS SAY THAT IS DEVELOPMENT WILL INCREASE
04:03:32PM TRAFFIC TO SUSTAINABLE LEVELS.
04:03:33PM THAT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
04:03:35PM WE SUBMITTED A PLAN APPROVED BY THE CITY AND WITH RESPECT
04:03:39PM RULES THAT PROVIDE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF NO
04:03:42PM NEIGHBORHOOD DISRUPTION AND ONE THAT COULD ALLOW NEW AND
04:03:46PM EXISTING RESIDENTS A CHANCE TO OWN A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOME
04:03:50PM AT A PRICE MOST AFFORDABLE IN THIS SUB MARKET.
04:03:54PM IF WE ARE TURNED DOWN, WE HAVE THE RIGHT UNDER THE LIVE
04:03:56PM LOCAL ACT TO PUT IN 350, THREE TIMES WHAT IS PROPOSED.
04:04:01PM I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYONE CONCERNED WITH TRAFFIC WOULD
04:04:05PM HAVE 350 UNITS INSTEAD OF 127.
04:04:09PM WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMENTS YOU HEARD TODAY FROM THE
04:04:12PM NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS, THEY DO NOT ADDRESS THE REASON WE ARE
04:04:18PM HERE TODAY WHICH IS SIMPLY, DOES THIS PROJECT MEET THE
04:04:22PM CRITERIA.
04:04:25PM DOES IT HAVE LEGAL ACCESS TO GANDY.
04:04:27PM THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, VERIFIED BY THE CITY AND OUR
04:04:31PM ATTORNEY.
04:04:31PM DOES IN COMPLY WITH THE RM-24.
04:04:33PM ANSWER IS YES AS CONFIRMED BY THE CITY.
04:04:37PM WE MET THE CRITERIA ON BOTH ACCOUNTS AND HAVE BEEN
04:04:41PM CONFIRMED.
04:04:41PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:04:44PM >> THANK YOU, MR. GRIESE.
04:04:48PM >> TYLER HUDSON.
04:04:50PM FIRST, BEFORE I GO INTO THE REBUTTAL, ONE CONDITION THAT WE
04:04:53PM WILL BE WILLING TO OFFER THAT I ALLUDED TO THIS IS ABOUT
04:04:58PM GARAGE SIZE.
04:04:59PM WHAT IS LISTED ON-SITE PLAN IS 18 X 9 KNOWING THAT IS THE
04:05:06PM CODE MINIMUM.
04:05:07PM WE ARE FOLLOWING PROVIDE 19 FEET BY 10 FEET.
04:05:10PM TOO SHORT OF 20 X 20.
04:05:14PM WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE ALREADY PLANNED TO DO.
04:05:16PM NOW LET'S GET INTO THE REBUTTAL.
04:05:18PM YOUR STAFF GOT THIS RIGHT.
04:05:20PM THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE.
04:05:23PM WE ARE HERE TO REVIEW WHETHER STAFF GOT THIS RIGHT.
04:05:25PM AND THEY DID.
04:05:26PM THEY CORRECTLY REVIEWED THIS AS SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED,
04:05:30PM WHICH IT IS.
04:05:31PM THIS IS NOT MULTIFAMILY STYLE.
04:05:34PM THIS IS SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
04:05:36PM THESE ARE ROWHOUSES.
04:05:37PM THEY CORRECTLY DETERMINED LEGALLY AFTER REVIEWING THE
04:05:41PM REQUISITE LEGAL INFORMATION WE HAVE DIRECT ACCESS PURSUANT
04:05:45PM TO THE RECORDED INCIDENT ON RECORD SINCE 1959 AND WILL RUN
04:05:49PM WITH THE LAND.
04:05:50PM THEY GOT THAT RIGHT.
04:05:52PM DIRECT ACCESS IS A LINE FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
04:05:57PM IT IS NOT FRONTAGE BUT ACCESS, DIRECT ACCESS, EXACTLY WHAT
04:06:03PM THIS PROJECT HAS AND HOW OPERATED PREVIOUSLY.
04:06:08PM TWO THINGS.
04:06:10PM ACCESS AND RM-24.
04:06:14PM ZERO EVIDENCE MUCH LESS COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL THAT WE
04:06:20PM DON'T REACH RM-24.
04:06:22PM THAT IS THE STAGE THAT WE ARE EVALUATING THIS.
04:06:25PM REMEMBER WHERE YOU ARE.
04:06:26PM YOU ARE APPROVING A USE.
04:06:28PM DETERMINATION LETTER FOR THIS SAYS THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS
04:06:32PM YOU NEED TO ADDRESS IN PERMITTING.
04:06:34PM WE ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT.
04:06:36PM THIS WAS NOT AN EVALUATION OF THE STORMWATER TECHNICAL
04:06:39PM STANDARD MEMORANDUM OR MANUAL, SORRY, OR THE TECHNICAL
04:06:45PM STANDARD MANUAL.
04:06:45PM NONE OF THOSE THINGS OCCURRED BECAUSE NOT THAT TIME YET.
04:06:51PM THAT TIME WILL COME TO PUT TOGETHER THE WORK FOR THE PLANS.
04:06:54PM WE WOULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR THIS SPECIAL USE IF WE DIDN'T
04:06:57PM THINK WE COULD.
04:06:58PM A LOT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT CENTERED AROUND HOW THIS PROJECT
04:07:05PM DOESN'T COMPLY WITH CODE.
04:07:06PM BUT IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH CODE AS THEY WANT IT TO BE.
04:07:09PM TO BORROW CARROLL ANN'S WORD "MYTHICAL" MAY NOT COMPLY WITH
04:07:15PM WHAT THE CODE WANTS TO BE, BUT AS A PROPERTY OWNER, EVERY
04:07:20PM CITIZEN IN TAMPA CAN BE HELD AGAINST A STANDARD OF WHAT THE
04:07:23PM CODE IS TODAY, TODAY RIGHT OUT IN.
04:07:24PM IF THAT CHANGES, WE WILL TAKE THE RISK OF THAT.
04:07:27PM THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU.
04:07:28PM REMEMBER WHERE YOU ARE.
04:07:29PM ARE TOWN HOMES ALLOWED HERE?
04:07:33PM YES.
04:07:33PM IS THIS DENSITY APPROPRIATE?
04:07:36PM YES.
04:07:36PM 18 UNITS PER ACRE WHEN YOU CAN GO 50 AND 60.
04:07:41PM NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE HARD, AND THIS CASE IS COMPLETELY PUT
04:07:46PM TOWARD IN THE APPLICANT'S FAVOR, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
04:07:49PM PATIENCE.
04:07:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MIRANDA.
04:07:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS
04:07:54PM AND ONE PARTICULAR ITEM FROM ONE UNIT TO THE OTHER UNIT IS
04:07:58PM WHAT, 45 FEET AWAY.
04:08:00PM WHY IS IT THAT LARGE?
04:08:02PM I AM NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU.
04:08:04PM I WANT TO KNOW WHY IT IS THAT LARGE.
04:08:06PM I SEE SOME THAT ARE MUCH LESS THAN THAT.
04:08:08PM >> WE THINK IT MAKES FOR A BETTER PRODUCT TO HAVE THAT WIDTH
04:08:12PM OF DRIVE AISLE.
04:08:13PM WEEP TALKED OF THIS BEFORE.
04:08:14PM WHEN DEALING WITH A PIECE OF EARTH, SPATIAL TRADE-OFFS IN
04:08:18PM EVERYTHING SINGLE THING YOU DO AND WE THINK IT MAKES SENSE
04:08:21PM TO HAVE THAT BE A WIDER DRIVEWAY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE MORE
04:08:24PM FREE ACCESS.
04:08:25PM AND CONSEQUENCES OF THAT ON UNIT SIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
04:08:29PM SOMETHING THAT WAS THOUGHT OF EXHAUSTIVELY.
04:08:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME.
04:08:35PM I AM NOT TRYING TO INTERRUPT.
04:08:37PM THE UNITS -- RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
04:08:39PM YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS HERE.
04:08:40PM WILL IT BE ANY HELP IF THAT UNIT COULD BE MOVED BACK A FEW
04:08:44PM FEET?
04:08:45PM JUST SO THEY WON'T BE SO CLOSE?
04:08:48PM >> SURE.
04:08:48PM TO ALLUDE WHAT JOHN WAS SAYING OF MISSING MIDDLE.
04:08:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TRYING TO READ --
04:08:54PM >> A POINT WELL-TAKEN.
04:08:55PM ONE ELEMENT OF THIS PROJECT IS MUEWS.
04:09:03PM IF WE ARE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH, IT IS ALREADY
04:09:06PM HERE AND THE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE COMING, YOU CAN'T HAVE
04:09:09PM EVERY SINGLE FRONT DOOR FACE THE STREET.
04:09:11PM THAT WAS ON PURPOSE, I WOULD SAY.
04:09:12PM THAT WASN'T AN ACCIDENT.
04:09:14PM IT WAS PURPOSELY DESIGNED TO HAVE THIS COTTAGE COURT.
04:09:17PM BUNGALOW COURT FROM HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
04:09:24PM INTENTIONAL DESIGN CHOICE.
04:09:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. HUDSON.
04:09:28PM NEXT SPEAKER IS REBUTTAL FROM THE APPLICANT SPEAKER.
04:09:32PM TEN MINUTES.
04:09:33PM FIVE FROM THE UNUSED PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.
04:09:35PM START YOU AT TEN MINUTES AND WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND
04:09:38PM MAKE OUR MOTIONS.
04:09:39PM STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN.
04:09:41PM >> PETE TRELA, BAYSIDE WEST PRESIDENT.
04:09:46PM COUNCIL.
04:09:46PM WE HEARD A LOT.
04:09:49PM THIS IS A LOT SHORTER AND LAST TIME WE GOT AROUND 1 A.M.
04:09:54PM NICE TO KNOW WE CAN GET ABOUT OUR DAYS.
04:09:56PM SOME THINGS I WAS EXPECTING TO HEAR TODAY.
04:09:59PM SOME THINGS THAT KIND OF CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD A LITTLE BIT.
04:10:02PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS
04:10:06PM AFFORDABLE HOMES.
04:10:07PM SO I GUESS NOBODY REALIZED OR ARE AWARE THAT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW
04:10:15PM OR FINISHING BEING BUILT -- MEANING THE PROPERTIES ARE JUST
04:10:18PM NOW BEING LISTED OR THE STRUCTURE IS ALREADY UP AND NOW THEY
04:10:22PM ARE WORKING ON THE INSIDE.
04:10:24PM THERE ARE 38 LUXURY TOWN HOMES ALREADY LISTED AT THE CORNER
04:10:27PM OF FAIR OAKS AND MANHATTAN.
04:10:33PM 4511, ASTRONAUT MANHATTAN AVENUE, 40 TWO-STORY TOWN HOMES
04:10:39PM THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY STRUCTURED.
04:10:41PM CURRENTLY HAVE THE ROOF TRELLISES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO
04:10:44PM THE MARKET BY Q 3 AND Q 4 THIS YEAR.
04:10:48PM 100 UNITS MIXED AND TWO TO THREE BEDROOMS AT CASA DEL MAR
04:10:55PM THAT HAS A OCCUPANCY LESS THAN 26%.
04:10:58PM WHETHER YOU NEED TO PURCHASE OR RENT, THERE IS A PLETHORA OF
04:11:02PM OPTIONS IN SOUTH COMPANY AND JUST FOR FUN, I HAD TO PULL UP
04:11:07PM ZILLOW.
04:11:08PM OVER 295 PROPERTIES THAT ARE PRICED LESS THAN HALF A MILLION
04:11:12PM DOLLARS SOUTH OF KENNEDY.
04:11:13PM 295.
04:11:14PM FOR SALE.
04:11:15PM SO TO SAY THEIR HURTING PEOPLE'S DREAMS, AND THIS IS
04:11:20PM SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP BREAK THEM INTO BEING A HOMEOWNER.
04:11:26PM NO WAY A THREE-STORY WITH A ROOF TRELLIS LIKE THAT THAN
04:11:30PM ANYTHING LESS THAN $750,000 ON THE MARKET.
04:11:33PM LET'S BE SERIOUS.
04:11:34PM OTHER PIECE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHICH REALLY SOMETHING
04:11:37PM THAT KIND OF HURTS THAT THE COMMENT WE HAD OF THIS LIVE
04:11:41PM LOCAL.
04:11:42PM THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US?
04:11:43PM THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:11:46PM THAT IS THE LEVERAGE THEY WANT TO PROVIDE.
04:11:49PM IF YOU APPRO OF THIS, WE WILL DROP IT.
04:11:52PM WE ARE ONLY HAVING THIS TO AMERICA SURE THAT WE CAN SCARE
04:11:56PM THE NEIGHBORS FROM WALKING AWAY FROM THIS WHICH IS A
04:12:00PM CONVERSATION THAT MR. HUDSON AND I DID HAVE.
04:12:03PM THE TYPE OF DEVELOPERS WE WANT TO BE BRINGING INTO OUR
04:12:06PM COMMUNITY?
04:12:06PM THAT THIS IS HOW THEY TREAT CITY COUNCIL BUT MORE
04:12:09PM IMPORTANTLY, HOW THEY TREAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IF YOU
04:12:15PM DON'T DO THIS, WE WILL MAKE YOUR LIVES A MILLION TIMES
04:12:19PM WORSE.
04:12:19PM HOW ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THAT PORE -- OTHER THAN
04:12:26PM THEY DON'T CARE.
04:12:27PM ALMIGHTY DOLLAR HAS RULED THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:12:33PM I AM PLEASED OF THE FOLKS WE HAVE ON THE DAIS.
04:12:36PM EACH ONE OF YOU SPECIFICALLY CARE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS BUT
04:12:39PM MORE IMPORTANTLY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AS A WHOLE.
04:12:42PM IN THIS SITUATION, I CAN THIS QUESTION MYSELF.
04:12:44PM AND WHO DO WE HAVE IN OTHER APARTMENTS IN THE CITY.
04:12:46PM AND WHO ARE THEY REALLY WORKING FOR?
04:12:51PM I STAND HERE TODAY EXHAUSTED.
04:12:53PM OVERWHELMED.
04:12:56PM EMOTIONAL.
04:12:57PM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY.
04:12:59PM WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEND 40-PLUS HOURS, OVER $500.
04:13:05PM THAT $500 WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE BACK.
04:13:09PM EVERY DIME, WHETHER IT IS NEXT YEAR OR OVER THE NEXT TEN
04:13:13PM YEARS.
04:13:13PM THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE BACK WHAT THEY SPENT.
04:13:15PM TRULY OF THE PARKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT WE WANT HAVE
04:13:25PM FOR EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO ENJOY.
04:13:28PM THERE IS NO PARK WITHIN THREE MILES EAST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
04:13:32PM -- EXCUSE ME, WEST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:13:33PM THE DENSITY THEY ARE SAYING THEY ARE GOING TO BRING IN IF WE
04:13:43PM HAVE THIS MANY PROPERTIES AVAILABLE FOR SALE AND CASA
04:13:49PM DEL MAR HAVE BEEN OPEN AND THEY HAVE THAT VACANCY.
04:13:52PM IS OUR MARKET TRENDING UP OR SLOWING DOWN.
04:13:55PM NOT FOR US TO DECIDE.
04:13:57PM ONE THING THAT WAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT WE ARE DOING A
04:13:59PM DISSERVICE TO PEOPLE BY NOT BUILDING THIS TYPE OF DENSITY.
04:14:03PM THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE.
04:14:04PM I AM NOT HERE TO STIFLE DEVELOPMENT.
04:14:10PM WE WORKED WITH THREE FOLKS VERY SUCCESSFULLY.
04:14:15PM ACTUALLY PART OF SAYING THAT.
04:14:17PM ONLY FOUR DEVELOPERS THAT ACTUALLY WORKED WITH US.
04:14:20PM SO FUNNY THAT 75% OF THEM WORKED WITH US AND SUPPORTED THE
04:14:23PM PROBABLY.
04:14:24PM JUST ONE.
04:14:24PM AND ONE CONSTANT IN THAT SO I THINK THAT TRULY SPEAKS IS
04:14:30PM THIS TRULY IN GOOD FAITH.
04:14:32PM OR IS THIS TRULY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO TURN A PROFIT.
04:14:39PM KNOWING WHAT THEY PAID FOR THAT PROPERTY BACK IN 2021, A LOT
04:14:42PM OF PROFITS TO BE MADE.
04:14:44PM IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THIS MADE.
04:14:46PM IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY.
04:14:48PM LAST THING WE WANT TO SAY, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A LOT OF THE
04:14:52PM DISAGREEMENTS, EVEN WITHIN CITY STAFF ON WHETHER THIS IS A
04:14:55PM CROSS-ACCESS OR DIRECT ACCESS.
04:14:57PM WE HAVE A DOCUMENTED MULTIPLE TIMES.
04:14:59PM IT WOULD BE VERY NICE ESPECIALLY IF YOU ALL TO MAKE A
04:15:02PM DECISION ON SOMETHING THIS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE FOLKS THAT
04:15:04PM MADE THOSE THAT WE HAVE DOCUMENTED AS PART OF PUBLIC RECORD
04:15:08PM TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THOSE.
04:15:10PM IF SOMEBODY MAKES A MISTAKE, MAKES A PRETTY EGREGIOUS MISTAKE
04:15:16PM OF THE E-MAIL AND NO DOCUMENTATION OF A CORRECTIVE ACTION TO
04:15:19PM MAKE SURE THEY DON'T DO THAT?
04:15:21PM I HAVE BEEN A MANAGER FOR A LONG TIME.
04:15:23PM WHEN WE MAKE A MISTAKE, WE CORRECT THE MISTAKE.
04:15:27PM WE COACH AND DOCUMENT TO HAVE A BASIS TO STAND ON THE NEXT
04:15:33PM TIMING IS LIKE THIS COMES UP.
04:15:35PM I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
04:15:37PM APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE CONCERNS AND I WISH YOU
04:15:40PM ALL THE BEST.
04:15:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
04:15:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK STAFF SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?
04:15:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
04:15:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START OFF FOR MISS FEELEY SINCE SHE AND I
04:15:58PM HAVE A LONG-STANDING RELATIONSHIP ON GARAGE SIZES.
04:16:01PM WITH THE CHANGES THAT COUNCIL IS PROPOSING AND MAKING, WHEN
04:16:05PM WILL THOSE GO INTO EFFECT, AND CAN WE IMPLEMENT THOSE
04:16:09PM REQUIREMENTS ON A PROJECT AT THIS STAGE?
04:16:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
04:16:14PM WE ARE BRINGING THEM TO YOU AT THE WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK.
04:16:18PM TYPICALLY, IT IS NOT UNTIL YOU HAVE A PENDING ORDINANCE.
04:16:24PM SO WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO CONSIDER NEXT WEEK WILL THEN GET
04:16:29PM TRANSMITTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN IT WILL BE
04:16:31PM -- HAVE A HEARING THERE AND WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR
04:16:34PM ADOPTION.
04:16:34PM SO I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON WHEN
04:16:38PM THAT IS A PENDING ORDINANCE UNDER WHICH YOU CAN MAKE A
04:16:41PM DETERMINATION.
04:16:42PM I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT IT IS
04:16:46PM FORTHCOMING.
04:16:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LEGAL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO
04:16:49PM THAT?
04:16:56PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I DO NOT.
04:16:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
04:16:58PM STAY THERE FOR A SECOND.
04:17:02PM LEGAL.
04:17:02PM SO THE -- ONE OF THE CRITICAL POINTS THAT I THINK IN THE
04:17:06PM DECISION POINTS OF THIS CASE IS BASED ON DIRECT ACCESS.
04:17:13PM OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS HERE.
04:17:16PM ONE IS THIS CROSS-ACCESS -- IS THAT EQUIVALENT TO DIRECT
04:17:20PM ACCESS?
04:17:20PM I UNDERSTAND CITY STAFF HAD MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT IT
04:17:25PM IS.
04:17:25PM DOES THIS COUNCIL HAS THE LEGAL AUTHORITY, DEFENDABLE
04:17:31PM AUTHORITY, TO REINTERPRET THAT THAT CROSS ACCESS IS NOT
04:17:35PM DIRECT ACCESS?
04:17:37PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FOR THE
04:17:39PM RECORD.
04:17:39PM YOU CAN DETERMINE BASED UPON THE INFORMATION AND THE
04:17:42PM EVIDENCE THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THIS APPLICATION ON WHETHER
04:17:47PM OR NOT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA OF THE CODE.
04:17:50PM IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF WHAT DIRECT ACCESS MEANS, I HAVE
04:17:52PM TO DEFER TO STAFF.
04:17:54PM I CAN'T PROVIDE THAT YOU INFORMATION.
04:17:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAG.
04:17:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABBYE, YOU ARE IT.
04:18:03PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
04:18:04PM I BELIEVE IT WAS JOHN MARSH THAT IS ON THAT MEMO AND SAYS
04:18:08PM "CROSS ACCESS."
04:18:09PM TYPICALLY CROSS ACCESS, THERE IS AN EASEMENT.
04:18:13PM AND SOMEBODY IS GRANTING YOU PERMISSION TO COME ACROSS THAT
04:18:16PM PROPERTY TO THE OTHER PROPERTY.
04:18:18PM I DO NOT KNOW OF THAT MR. MARCH LOOKED TO THE PLAT.
04:18:22PM YOU KNOW, THAT'S RIGHT WHERE I WENT, BUT I HAVE BEEN DOING
04:18:27PM THIS FOR 25 YEARS.
04:18:28PM SOME GOING TO THAT COMMERCIAL MAT AND SEEING ACCESS IS
04:18:34PM PLATTED AND THERE ARE SIX LOTS THAT ACCESS THROUGH THAT
04:18:38PM PLATTED PIECE OF LAND, THAT IS A DIRECT LINK TO THAT.
04:18:43PM TYPICALLY WHEN IT IS CROSS-ACCESS, YOU ARE CROSSING
04:18:46PM SOMETHING SO THEY ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THAT AS THE
04:18:52PM ACCESS.
04:18:52PM NO OTHER WAY TO GET THERE.
04:18:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET THAT POINT.
04:18:55PM YOUR CONTENTION AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THIS, THAT
04:18:58PM THAT DEFINITION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SU-1 FOR DIRECT
04:19:08PM ACCESS TO GANDY?
04:19:09PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, IT IS.
04:19:10PM THAT ACTUALLY CAME TO ME IN THAT PROCESS BECAUSE
04:19:13PM TRANSPORTATION -- WHILE THEY ARE REVIEWING FOR THE
04:19:16PM TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS, THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY REVIEWING
04:19:18PM FOR THE LAND USE STANDARDS THAT FOLLOW INTO THE ZONING CODE
04:19:23PM THAT ARE THE AUTHORITY OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
04:19:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
04:19:26PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE CAN'T SAY TO DON'T PUT THAT IN A MEMO.
04:19:31PM SOMEBODY ULTIMATELY HAS TO MAKE CALL.
04:19:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BACK TO THE STIPULATIONS THAT WE CAN
04:19:41PM REQUIRE.
04:19:41PM WE ASKED BASICALLY NOT CLOSE ACCESS TO THE RESIDENTIAL
04:19:45PM STREET.
04:19:45PM THAT SEEMED TO BE A MAJOR CONCERN.
04:19:47PM STIPULATIONS.
04:19:48PM CAN WE STIPULATE THE GARAGE SIZES THAT EXCEED -- FOR THE NEW
04:19:53PM STANDARDS -- PUT THAT AS A STIPULATION ON THIS SITE PLAN?
04:20:00PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT WOULD BE A REQUEST THAT YOU WOULD HAVE
04:20:03PM TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT.
04:20:04PM SPECIAL USE WORKS IN A COUPLE OF SECTIONS OF THE CODE.
04:20:07PM 129, 130 TO 132.
04:20:10PM 132 ARE THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS THAT RUN THAT ARE IDENTIFY IN
04:20:17PM THE USE TABLE AS A SPECIAL OR I REFER TO THEM AS A
04:20:20PM CONDITIONAL USE.
04:20:21PM SAYS IF YOU MEET THESE CONDITIONS YOU MAY BE PERMITTED TO
04:20:27PM HAVE THIS USE.
04:20:27PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL OTHER STANDARDS
04:20:30PM OF THE CODE BUT THE PREFERENCE OF THAT SECTION, THE 129 AND
04:20:39PM 130.
04:20:40PM GENERAL STANDARDS.
04:20:41PM THEY MUST BE APPROPRIATE USES AND SUBJECT TO AND COULD BE
04:20:46PM SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS IF THE REVIEWING BODY AND I BELIEVE IT
04:20:48PM EVEN SAY IT IS IT GOES TO COUNCIL ON APPEAL OR I CAN READ
04:20:52PM THAT SECTION, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THAT ABILITY TO ASK ABOUT
04:20:55PM THOSE CONDITIONS.
04:20:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GUESS THIS IS AN APPLICANT QUESTION.
04:21:02PM IF I AM READING THE ROOM CORRECTLY AND READING YOUR REPORTS
04:21:05PM AND READING THE STAFF REPORTS.
04:21:07PM I AM READING THE PLETHORA OF DOCUMENTS WE HAVE BEEN
04:21:11PM INUNDATED WITH.
04:21:12PM SEEMS AS THOUGH IF YOU HAVE RESTRICTED ACCESS TO THE
04:21:16PM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND UP-SIZED THE GARAGE WHAT THE
04:21:20PM COUNCIL TO HAVE AS A GARAGE STANDARD BECAUSE, ONE, IT MAKES
04:21:24PM SENSE.
04:21:24PM BY THE WAY, I LIVE IN A HOUSE THAT HAS A 19-FOOT-WIDE GARAGE
04:21:29PM AND NOT PRACTICAL.
04:21:30PM YOU CAN'T OPEN TWO DOORS -- YOU CAN'T OPEN THE DOORS IF YOU
04:21:33PM HAVE TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE.
04:21:34PM SORRY, NOT TO INSERT EVIDENCE -- SO I RESCIND THAT COMMENT.
04:21:39PM IF YOU FIX THE ACCESS TO THE GARAGE, YOU WOULD HAVE RESOLVED SO
04:21:47PM MUCH FROM WHAT WE HEARD TODAY.
04:21:50PM >> TYLER HUDSON FOR THE RECORD, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE
04:21:54PM WITH THAT.
04:21:56PM I CAN'T SEE INSIDE PEOPLE'S HEARTS, BUT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS
04:22:00PM MENTIONED, ANYTHING WILL CAUSE THEM SOME CONCERN.
04:22:02PM I THINK THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF TAKING A MAGIC WAND TO THE
04:22:08PM GARAGE.
04:22:08PM OAKELLAR NEEDED TWO ACCESS POINTS.
04:22:11PM THIS LAND ALWAYS HAD TWO ACCESS POINTS.
04:22:13PM WE DIDN'T WANT THE CONDITION.
04:22:16PM WE WERE FINE WITH IT.
04:22:17PM WE WERE NOT THE ONE WHO APPEALED IT.
04:22:19PM WE ARE FINE LIVING WITH THE STANDARD IT IS RIGHT OUT AND
04:22:23PM LEFT IN TO OAKELLAR.
04:22:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DON'T YOU HAVE ACCESS -- I USED TO GO
04:22:32PM SHOPPING AT ZAYRE'S.
04:22:34PM DON'T YOU HAVE ACCESS?
04:22:35PM >> NOT OAKELLAR.
04:22:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEHIND THE BURGER KING.
04:22:40PM >> ALL UNDER CITY OWNERSHIP.
04:22:42PM GIANT POND --
04:22:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I USED TO ILLEGALLY.
04:22:46PM >> MAYBE YOU DID, AND WE COULDN'T COUNT ON THAT THERE.
04:22:49PM BUT WE ALWAYS HAD OAKELLAR ACCESS.
04:22:53PM WE ARE FOLLOWING TAKE THAT CONDITION AND ON STAFF TO TELL US
04:22:57PM WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO MAKE IT EXTREMELY IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN
04:23:02PM INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:23:03PM TALK OF REGULATING HUMAN BEHAVIOR.
04:23:05PM IF SOMEONE JUMPS THE CURB AND TRIES TO DO THAT, WE CAN'T
04:23:10PM STOP THAT BUT WE CAN STOP 8,000 TRIPS COMING THERE BY
04:23:15PM ALLOWING THIS OF 127 TOWN HOMES TO BE APPROVED.
04:23:21PM YOU CAN LIMIT THE TRAFFIC BY LIMITING THE USE.
04:23:24PM THAT IS WHAT THIS IS.
04:23:25PM MOST LIMITED USE.
04:23:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE CITY BOO NOT GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO
04:23:30PM BUILD IT IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE SECOND ACCESS.
04:23:33PM >> WOULD THE CITY --
04:23:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU BUILD THIS WITHOUT ACCESS TO
04:23:38PM OAKELLAR?
04:23:40PM >> IF THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN ACCESS?
04:23:46PM I DON'T KNOW.
04:23:47PM LUCAS, CAN YOU COME UP.
04:23:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OAKELLAR, A WANT OR A NEED.
04:23:56PM >> A HAVE.
04:23:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS PROBLEMATIC AFTERNOON.
04:23:59PM >> LUCAS CARLO, LEMON STREET.
04:24:04PM YOU NEED A SECOND ACCESS.
04:24:05PM ANYTHING OVER 100 UNITS, YOU NEED THAT SECOND ACCESS IF IT
04:24:10PM IS EMERGENCY.
04:24:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS A NEED.
04:24:12PM >> A NEED.
04:24:12PM YOU NEED THAT ACCESS TO OAKELLAR.
04:24:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
04:24:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
04:24:20PM ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE MOTION TO CLOSE?
04:24:23PM >> NOTHING FOR ME.
04:24:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
04:24:27PM CARLSON.
04:24:27PM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:24:29PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:24:30PM WE HAVE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
04:24:31PM AT THIS TIME, WE WILL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS.
04:24:35PM WE HAVE OPTIONS.
04:24:36PM WE CAN UPHOLD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S APPROVAL OR
04:24:40PM OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S APPROVAL.
04:24:42PM AND WHAT IS -- WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
04:25:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE THE UPHOLD THE ZONING SU 24-98 FOR
04:25:23PM THE PROPERTY 4465 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD BECAUSE THE
04:25:27PM PETITIONER FAILED TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
04:25:29PM EVIDENCE THAT THE APPLICATION IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE
04:25:32PM SPECIFIC REGULATIONS SET FORTH IN THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE
04:25:38PM 27-132-27-129 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS -- WHAT DID I DO
04:26:00PM WITH THEM?
04:26:04PM HOLD ON.
04:26:05PM WHAT DID I DO WITH MY PAPER?
04:26:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
04:26:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
04:26:11PM I HAD THE WRONG ONE.
04:26:13PM DO I NEED TO READ THE ENTIRE -- IN ITS ENTIRETY OR JUST READ
04:26:37PM THE CODE AS WRITTEN?
04:26:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE READ H-1 --
04:26:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHERE IS IT?
04:26:52PM WHERE IS IT?
04:26:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIGHT HERE ON PAGE 1.
04:26:55PM 27-16 AND GO THROUGH --
04:26:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW.
04:27:00PM THANK YOU.
04:27:01PM TO APPROVE SPECIAL USE -- AND MINOR CHANGES.
04:27:12PM SUBSTANTIAL -- THAT'S NOT IT.
04:27:15PM THAT IS NOT IT.
04:27:16PM THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE -- THAT IS PART OF THE
04:27:33PM AUTHORIZATION OF WHO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS.
04:27:35PM THAT IS NOT THE PART I WANTED TO READ.
04:27:37PM TOO MANY PAPERS UP HERE.
04:28:02PM OKAY.
04:28:03PM CAN I HAVE THE LIST OF PAPERS WITH THE APPROVAL -- I HAVE A
04:28:32PM COPY OF THE STAFF REPORT FOR YOU BUT NOT THE POINT I WANTED
04:28:40PM TO READ.
04:28:40PM THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH.
04:29:07PM THANK YOU.
04:29:08PM 27-132 THAT THE DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY FOR THE FOLLOWING
04:29:12PM STANDARDS HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO THE ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR
04:29:15PM STREET AS SHOWN ON THE MAP, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
04:29:18PM STAFF.
04:29:20PM THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND THE SITE SHALL MEET THE
04:29:22PM DIMENSIONAL REGULATIONS FROM RM-24 ZONING DISTRICT SHALL BE
04:29:27PM CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN --
04:29:33PM HOW MANY DO I HAVE TO GIVE, ONE OR TWO, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH.
04:29:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT YOU FEEL IS SUFFICIENT --
04:29:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WE MET THE COMPREHENSIVE SUBSTANTIAL
04:29:45PM EVIDENCE.
04:29:45PM UNITS ARE CONNECTED BY THE WALLS -- -- SEE THIS IS MY FIRST
04:29:47PM TIME DOING THIS.
04:29:51PM BUT I DON'T MIND DOING IT IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC.
04:29:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
04:29:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CONSISTENT WITH -- I AM CONSISTENT WITH
04:29:59PM THAT.
04:30:00PM MAYBE I CAN GET A SECOND ON THAT.
04:30:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM GOING TO SECOND IT, BUT I WOULD ASK MR.
04:30:05PM SHELBY IF YOU DON'T MIND TO LOOK -- I WOULD ASK MR. SHELBY
04:30:13PM TO ASSIST IN MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN RECITED
04:30:19PM CLEARLY FOR THE RECORD.
04:30:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 127 -- I READ 127, SECTION 127-132.
04:30:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN ASK YOU --
04:30:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 27-130 --
04:30:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILWOMAN, IF THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
04:30:44PM EVIDENCE THAT THE CODE HAS BEEN COMPLIED WITH AND IS
04:30:47PM CONSISTENT?
04:30:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
04:30:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
04:30:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I SAID IT WAS CONSISTENT -- IT IS
04:30:55PM CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE FROM SECTION 27-132.
04:31:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
04:31:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST DON'T HAVE 27-132 IN FRONT OF ME
04:31:08PM ANYMORE.
04:31:09PM HERE IT IS.
04:31:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THE ACCESS -- I BELIEVE YOU
04:31:12PM MIGHT HAVE READ THAT.
04:31:13PM IS THERE A SECOND?
04:31:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: I SECONDED.
04:31:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD.
04:31:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY, I AM ASKING -- IF I MAY WHAT
04:31:34PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON HAS RECREATED, IS IT LEGALLY
04:31:37PM SUFFICIENT FOR PURPOSES OF HER MOTION?
04:31:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE YOU WISH
04:31:44PM TO STATE,OY STAY IN GENERAL THAT THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
04:31:48PM EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD SUPPORTS YOUR DECISION.
04:31:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, BUT I DON'T HAVE MY PAPER IN FRONT
04:31:54PM OF ME ANYMORE.
04:31:55PM I DON'T SEE WHERE IT IS.
04:31:57PM THAT'S NOT IT.
04:31:58PM I THINK I THREW IT IN THE TRASH.
04:32:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU NEED ANYTHING FURTHER.
04:32:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK WE CAN PROCEED.
04:32:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:32:07PM DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
04:32:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT --
04:32:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:32:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WAIT.
04:32:13PM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.
04:32:16PM I THINK WE CAN ALL -- OR THE RESIDENTS CAN AGREE WE HAVE A
04:32:25PM LOT OF HOUSING IN SOUTH TAMPA AND WE NEED TO INCENTIVIZE IT
04:32:29PM GOING ELSEWHERE.
04:32:29PM I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
04:32:31PM AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WITH THE NEW COMP PLAN
04:32:34PM UPDATE AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE.
04:32:37PM UNFORTUNATELY ON THE FLIPSIDE, PEOPLE WHO OWN PROPERTY DO
04:32:40PM HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THAT PROPERTY FOR WHAT IT IS ZONED.
04:32:44PM AND THE UNFORTUNATE PART OF THAT IS THAT THEY CAN GO REALLY,
04:32:49PM REALLY BIG.
04:32:50PM LIKE CI ALLOWS FOR A TON OF DIFFERENT USES.
04:33:00PM IN THIS CASE, THIS WILL BE THE LOWEST DENSITY YOU WILL FIND
04:33:03PM ON THIS PROPERTY UNLESS THEY PUT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, WHICH
04:33:08PM I -- GIVEN THE CURRENT MARKET I TONIGHT SEE THEM DOING
04:33:19PM PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ACCESS OF WEST OAKELLAR
04:33:23PM COMPLETELY TAKEN OFF.
04:33:25PM I AM REALLY HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE DEVELOPER AND THE
04:33:32PM REPRESENTATIVES ,WHO ARE NORMALLY PRETTY GOOD WITH IT, HAVEN'T
04:33:36PM BEEN WORKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I FEEL THEY SHOULD HAVE.
04:33:38PM MOST OF THE TIME, WE HAVE TAKEN -- WE DON'T GET A LOT OF
04:33:42PM THESE HEARINGS ANYMORE BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE
04:33:49PM HANDLED WITH COMMUNICATION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:33:51PM IF THIS GOES THROUGH, I WILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU MEET
04:33:54PM WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOW THEM THE SITE PLANS AND SHOW
04:33:57PM THEM THE LARGE -- I KNOW THAT MR. HUDSON SAID THAT THEY
04:34:02PM COULD COMMIT TO THE -- THE GARAGE SIZE BEING 19 FEET, 10
04:34:12PM INCHES WHICH IS CLOSE TO 20.
04:34:14PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE
04:34:18PM THAT MAKES IT.
04:34:19PM BECAUSE HE STATED ON THE RECORD WE DO THIS.
04:34:21PM GARAGE SIZE AS THAT ARE 19 FEET, 10 INCHES WIDE.
04:34:25PM I AM -- THANK YOU, I THINK THAT IS THE PART I AM MOST
04:34:36PM DISAPPOINTED ABOUT.
04:34:37PM WE DIDN'T NEED TO BE HERE TODAY IF FOLKS HAD JUST TAKEN THE
04:34:41PM TIME TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS AND ACTUALLY GET DOWN TO THE
04:34:44PM ISSUES THAT MATTERED.
04:34:45PM TO BE ABLE TO PULL AWAY -- TO BOTH SIDES HAVING THE ABILITY
04:34:49PM TO SAY, OKAY, I AM NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO GET EXACTLY WHAT
04:34:53PM I WANT, BUT I AM WILLING TO COME TOGETHER.
04:34:55PM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS, ESPECIALLY IN A SPOT
04:34:59PM THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR WHERE PEOPLE ARE REALLY SCARED.
04:35:03PM MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAD TO LEAVE THEIR
04:35:05PM HOMES BECAUSE OF FLOODING.
04:35:06PM AND I THINK THAT AS DEVELOPERS AND OWNERS, YOU HAVE A
04:35:11PM RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW THAT.
04:35:12PM AND TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT AND LISTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
04:35:20PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ALL DOING.
04:35:22PM WE ARE LISTENING ALL THE TIME.
04:35:24PM CRYING WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS AND HEARING WHAT IS GOING ON.
04:35:28PM RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL OF NEWS THESE TYPE OF POSITIONS TO BE
04:35:31PM ABLE TO DO THAT.
04:35:31PM AND WE DIDN'T SEE THAT HERE.
04:35:33PM AND I AM INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED BY IT.
04:35:35PM IT IS NOT A -- AGAIN, I DO FIND THE SU-17 DID WHAT IT IS
04:35:43PM SUPPOSED TO DO.
04:35:45PM BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE HERE BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE JUST, YOU
04:35:49PM KNOW, WANTED TO BE A LITTLE MORE COMBATIVE ABOUT IT.
04:35:53PM THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LISTEN.
04:35:56PM THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT COULD HAVE
04:35:58PM HAPPENED AND PREVENTED ALL OF US FROM BEING HERE.
04:36:01PM NOT EVERYONE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN WHAT THEY WANTED, BUT JUST TO
04:36:04PM HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
04:36:05PM I AM JUST -- I AM -- I AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN THAT.
04:36:09PM AND, YOU KNOW, THIS HA H COME TOGETHER TO US AS A PD, WE
04:36:14PM COULD HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEMS.
04:36:16PM WE COULD HAVE ASKED TO YOU GO BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:36:18PM IN THIS CASE, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
04:36:20PM BUT MIND YOU, WE ARE WATCHING.
04:36:22PM WE PAY ATTENTION.
04:36:23PM YOU COME BACK TO US.
04:36:25PM YOU WILL COME BACK TO US AGAIN FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
04:36:27PM AND I AM GOING TO EXPECT TO SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORK THANK
04:36:31PM YOU DONE.
04:36:31PM BECAUSE THAT WHAT MATTERS HERE.
04:36:35PM WE ARE ALL SCARED.
04:36:37PM WE ARE ALL WORRIED OF ADDITIONAL DENSITY BUT WE KNOW THAT
04:36:41PM SOUTH TAMPA IS A PLACE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE.
04:36:44PM A BALANCE UNFORTUNATELY.
04:36:46PM I DON'T THINK THAT -- LIKE I AM NOT THRILLED WITH IT.
04:36:49PM BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE LAW IS THE LAW.
04:36:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WAS NEXT.
04:36:56PM MR. SHELBY.
04:36:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
04:37:01PM I HAVEN'T SPOKE PRIOR FOR THIS, BUT I THINK IT IS
04:37:04PM APPROPRIATE THAT I WANT TO ENSURE THAT COUNCIL'S MOTION IS
04:37:08PM NOT -- WHATEVER ITS DECISION IS INDIVIDUALLY IS NOT BASED ON
04:37:18PM A NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY AND MEETING WITH THE
04:37:20PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:37:20PM I KNOW YOU KNOW IT, BUT I HAVE TO STATE IT FOR THE RECORD.
04:37:23PM THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT IN YOUR CODE.
04:37:25PM AND, AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T GO UNSAID SO YOU
04:37:31PM ARE CLEAR THAT CANNOT FORM THE IT HE THE BASIS OF A
04:37:36PM DECISION.
04:37:36PM BASED ON COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
04:37:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. SHELBY, I DID NOT SAY THAT MY DECISION
04:37:43PM WOULD BE BASED ON THAT.
04:37:44PM I SAID THAT IS WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING AND THAT WILL BE IN THE
04:37:47PM DEVELOPMENT.
04:37:49PM THAT WILL BE IN THE UPCOMING -- BUT WE FOUND DEVELOPERS
04:37:56PM FOLLOWING DO THAT AND THE REASON WE DON'T HAVE WASTE
04:37:59PM EVERYBODY'S TIME, ENERGY AND MONEY TO BE HERE.
04:38:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MAY SAY MY FEELING.
04:38:05PM I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:38:07PM I THINK WHAT SHE SAID WAS FROM HER HEART.
04:38:09PM NOT FROM ANYTHING ABOUT I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE
04:38:12PM I DON'T LIKE YOU FOR THE OTHER.
04:38:14PM AND I THINK SHE SAID IT RIGHT.
04:38:16PM I THINK SHE WAS VERY ELOQUENT THE WAY SHE SAID IT.
04:38:19PM NEVER DEVIATED FROM THE FACT OF LAW.
04:38:23PM IN MY OPINION, I AM NOT A LAWYER OR A JUDGE.
04:38:27PM I WILL SAY WHAT YOU SAY IS FACTUAL AND THE STATEMENT WAS
04:38:30PM REALLY IN THE LAST SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS, WE HAD -- I SAW SOME
04:38:35PM THINGS THAT -- I SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DEVELOPER GET
04:38:41PM TOGETHER AND SAY A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
04:38:43PM WHAT I AM SAYING COMMUNICATE SOMETHING BETTER THAN NOT
04:38:45PM COMMUNICATING.
04:38:47PM AND THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
04:38:49PM IN THE PAST, THERE WAS LITTLE COMMUNICATING AND EVERYTHING WHERE
04:38:52PM EVERYTHING IS ABOUT BUILD OUT THE SO YOU BETTER HAVE
04:38:55PM COMMUNICATIONS BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO BE LEFT OUT OF.
04:38:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND CLENDENIN.
04:39:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY FAST IN TERMS OF MY THOUGHTS.
04:39:03PM I APPRECIATED THE ISSUES, BUT I GUESS THE MEASURED PAIN THAT
04:39:09PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS SAYING IN TERMS OF COMING TO OUR
04:39:13PM DECISION.
04:39:13PM I GET FRUSTRATION OF THOSE NEXT ARE HERE.
04:39:17PM SOUTH TAMPA IS AN AREA WHERE A LOT POOF PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE
04:39:22PM AND A LOT OF FRUSTRATION OF THOSE WANT TO LIVE THERE.
04:39:25PM I APPRECIATE THAT 110%.
04:39:28PM THIS COMES DOWN TO OTHER ISSUES WHICH -- IF THERE IS A RULE,
04:39:32PM DON'T HATE THE PLAYER, HATE THE GAME, RIGHT.
04:39:34PM WHICH ARE THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE THAT ARE SEEKING TO DEVELOP
04:39:37PM THIS.
04:39:38PM THERE ARE RULES THEY ARE ABIDING BY, AND -- AND IF WE -- MY
04:39:42PM OPINION, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, IF WE WERE TO DENY THIS THROUGH
04:39:46PM OUR MEASURES OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE COURT SYSTEM AND
04:39:50PM DAMAGES ASSESSED AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA IN A CASE LIKE
04:39:53PM THIS WILL BE TOURETTE.
04:39:54PM A CASE BY WISH I FEEL AND INDIVIDUALLY FROM MY REVIEW WE
04:39:59PM WOULDN'T HAVE A REALLY GOOD SHOT I TELL PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE
04:40:03PM TO WRITE CHECKS THAT WILL BOUNCE.
04:40:05PM IF WE WERE TO DENY IT, IT WOULD ULTIMATELY BOUNCE AND CAUSE
04:40:10PM BIG OVERDRAFT FEES TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:40:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
04:40:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GLAD I HAD A FEW MOMENTS.
04:40:19PM I DON'T KNOW WHO THE GUY IS IN THE BLUE JACKET AND THE LIGHT
04:40:22PM BLUE SHIRT.
04:40:22PM IF THIS WAS AS COURT OF LAW, I WOULD THROW YOU OUT FOR THE
04:40:27PM FACIAL EXPRESSIONS.
04:40:29PM IT WAS COMPLETELY DISRESPECTFUL AND NEVER WALK IN A CHAMBER
04:40:34PM AND WHAT IS BEST WITH THE COMMUNITY IN ACCORDANCE ACCOUNT
04:40:38PM LAWS.
04:40:38PM I FOUND THAT COMPLETELY DISRESPECTFUL.
04:40:40PM WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID Y'ALL SHOULD LISTEN.
04:40:44PM YOU WILL COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AGAIN AND YOU WILL ASK
04:40:46PM FOR THINGS AND ASK FOR OUR GRACE WITH WHAT SHE WAS SAYING TO
04:40:49PM YOU GUYS IS SPOT DAMN ON.
04:40:51PM YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT IT DECISION.
04:40:54PM I DON'T LIKE IT.
04:40:55PM I AM LOOKING AT THE SAME LAWS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT.
04:40:58PM I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS RIGHT WHEN HE SAYS --
04:41:01PM DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO LIKE IT.
04:41:02PM DON'T LIKE THIS PROJECT.
04:41:03PM I THINK IT IS TERRIBLE.
04:41:05PM I THINK Y'ALL COULD HAVE DONE SO MUCH BETTER, AND THIS IS A
04:41:07PM REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF PROPERTY IN CITY OF TAMPA
04:41:10PM YOU COULD HAVE DONE BETTER.
04:41:12PM JUST LIKE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:41:14PM YOU HAD TO HAVE TWO ACCESSES.
04:41:16PM EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS ONLY?
04:41:18PM I DON'T KNOW.
04:41:19PM MAYBE THAT WAS SOMETHING Y'ALL COULD HAVE STIPULATED TO FOR
04:41:22PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:41:23PM POSSIBLY?
04:41:25PM I DON'T KNOW.
04:41:25PM WE ARE PLAYING WITH WORD DEFINITION WHAT IS DIRECT ACCESS
04:41:29PM IS.
04:41:29PM COULD YOU HAVE BROUGHT A BETTER PLAN HERE?
04:41:32PM YOU KNEW -- I KNOW FOR A FACT MANY OF HAVE YOU BEEN SITTING
04:41:35PM IN HERE WHEN TALKING OF GARAGE SIZES.
04:41:37PM WHY WOULD YOU COME BEFORE US -- I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT
04:41:40PM IT, RIGHT, BECAUSE MY STAFF PERSON SAYS -- WHY NOT COME WITH
04:41:43PM THOSE FEW EXTRA INCHES SO SATISFYING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
04:41:48PM PATTERN FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:41:49PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
04:41:51PM YOU GUYS ARE ALL LAND DEVELOPERS.
04:41:53PM YOU COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND ASK US FOR STUFF.
04:41:55PM GOING TO COME BEFORE US AGAIN.
04:41:58PM YOU KNOW WITH THE REFERENCE TO LIVE LOCAL.
04:42:01PM WE ALL UNDERSTAND IT.
04:42:02PM I DON'T APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND LECTURING US.
04:42:05PM I GET IT.
04:42:06PM YOU HAVE RIGHTS.
04:42:07PM IF YOU HAVE RIGHTS, EXERCISE YOUR DAMN RIGHTS.
04:42:09PM DON'T HOLD KNIFE OVER OUR NECKS WITH IT.
04:42:12PM WE GET IT.
04:42:14PM WE UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE RIGHTS.
04:42:15PM YOU HAVE LAND DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY
04:42:17PM AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU BECAUSE I
04:42:20PM UNDERSTAND -- YOU GET THIS ONE TODAY.
04:42:22PM BUT JUST KNOW WHEN YOU COME BACK HERE NEXT TIME, I'M GOING
04:42:25PM TO BE THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THAT.
04:42:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:42:27PM IF NOT --
04:42:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY IN GIVING IT MY FIRST
04:42:32PM SHOT AND ACTUALLY APPROVING OR UPHOLDING A DECISION.
04:42:36PM THE FACT THAT 350 UNITS COULD BE BUILT UNDER LIVE LOCAL IS
04:42:41PM THE ALTERNATIVE.
04:42:43PM AND 127 TOWN HOMES, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT WERE VERY NICE, BY
04:42:48PM THE WAY, THOUGHTFUL.
04:42:49PM GROUND FLOOR.
04:42:50PM THE GARAGE.
04:42:51PM AND PROBABLY THE SECOND AND SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR WERE THE
04:42:55PM LIVING SPACES AND A ROOFTOP, AND I AM SURE PEOPLE WON'T HANG OUT
04:42:59PM EVERY SINGLE DAY WHICH HAS HEIGHT FOR THEIR PRIVACY AS WELL
04:43:02PM AS THE NEIGHBOR'S PRIVACY AND THAT CONSIDERATION.
04:43:05PM I HAVE LEARNED IN THIS ROLE OF MINE.
04:43:11PM ACROSS KENNEDY BOULEVARD IS THE MOST POPULAR PLACE.
04:43:14PM PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE THERE.
04:43:16PM NOT PEOPLE WHO NECESSARILY LOOK LIKE ME, Y'ALL WANT TO LIVE
04:43:20PM THERE.
04:43:20PM AND IT IS TRUE BECAUSE IT COMES TO US SO MUCH.
04:43:22PM ALTHOUGH THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES OVER BY THE
04:43:26PM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
04:43:27PM THAT IS NOT BEING PRESENTED TO US.
04:43:28PM IS THERE IS JUST -- SOUTH TAMPA IS JUST SOMETHING THAT A LOT
04:43:35PM OF PEOPLE.
04:43:36PM EVEN PEOPLE WHO MOVE HERE.
04:43:39PM THEY FIND OUT SOUTH TAMPA FIRST.
04:43:42PM THAT IS WHERE THEY GO LOOKING.
04:43:44PM IT IS JUST A FACT AND 127 NICE TOWN HOMES IS REASONABLE.
04:43:48PM I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL DISRUPT TRAFFIC TOO MUCH.
04:43:51PM BUT I DO EMPATHIZE WITH YOU ALL THAT COME DOWN AND FIGHT
04:43:55PM EVERY SINGLE DAY, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT SOUTH TAMPA IS FULL.
04:43:58PM I UNDERSTAND THAT TO A POINT.
04:44:00PM I REALLY, REALLY DO.
04:44:02PM BUT TODAY I THINK WITH THE ATTORNEYS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW,
04:44:09PM THEY COULD TAKE LEGAL RECOURSE.
04:44:11PM THEY SAID IT VERY NICELY AND ALSO TRUE.
04:44:14PM BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE -- BECAUSE OF DECISIONS THAT ARE
04:44:20PM MADE THAT THEY STILL HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS AND WE HAVE TO FACE
04:44:23PM THAT AND THAT COSTS THE CITY EVEN MORE MONEY.
04:44:25PM I CONSIDERED THAT FACTOR AS WELL.
04:44:26PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
04:44:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:44:29PM I LIKE LIVING NORTH OF TAMPA BAY AND SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH.
04:44:33PM THAT IS JUST ME.
04:44:34PM BUT IN LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY, IF IT WAS A BUSY SHOPPING
04:44:39PM CENTER LIKE IT USED TO BE.
04:44:40PM A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
04:44:42PM DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
04:44:43PM FULLY STOCKED LIKE IT WAS, IT WOULD BE EVEN WORSE.
04:44:46PM I THINK THIS IS A -- THE LOWEST IMPACT -- THE LOWEST
04:44:51PM TRAFFIC IS RESIDENTIAL IS THE -- IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
04:44:54PM I THINK DENYING THIS AS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA SAID PUTS NEWS
04:44:59PM PERIL BECAUSE SO MUCH MORE CAN BE DONE.
04:45:01PM I BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THE LOWEST IMPACTFUL DEVELOPMENTS
04:45:05PM THAT YOU CAN PUT AS IT IS.
04:45:06PM I THINK THIS IS THE BEST ROUTE TO GO.
04:45:09PM YES, IT IS NOT PERFECT.
04:45:11PM YES, THERE ARE CONCERN.
04:45:12PM BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE RIGHT MOVE IN SUPPORTING IT.
04:45:17PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
04:45:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN THAT NO CASE IS
04:45:21PM SIMPLE.
04:45:21PM NONE THAT COMES HERE.
04:45:23PM HOWEVER, SOME ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT. THIS IS ONE
04:45:27PM OF THEM.
04:45:27PM WHEN I LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE -- I COUNT THAT I KNOW, I KNOW
04:45:34PM 80% OF THE PUBLIC.
04:45:36PM THE OTHER LADY ON CLEVELAND.
04:45:41PM I DON'T KNOW WHICH ADDRESS BUT I CAN NAME THEM ALL.
04:45:47PM SO IT IS NOT EASY.
04:45:48PM I WROTE SO MANY NOTES IN SHORTHAND THAT I CAN'T EVEN READ
04:45:52PM THEM.
04:45:52PM IT IS A PROCESS THAT IS DIFFICULT.
04:45:56PM NOT EASY TO BE HERE.
04:45:58PM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT.
04:45:59PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
04:46:03PM WHAT I LEARNED TO AND SOMEBODY HAD TO LEARN TODAY THAT NEXT
04:46:07PM TIME THE GARAGE AND CRITERIA BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO CHANGE
04:46:11PM VERY SOON.
04:46:11PM MAKE SURE YOUR SETBACKS ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THINGS ARE
04:46:15PM GOING TO CHANGE.
04:46:16PM YOU KNOW WHAT, EVERYTHING IN LIFE CHANGES.
04:46:18PM WHY IS THAT PROPERTY VALUABLE NOW.
04:46:21PM BECAUSE IT WASN'T WORTH A DAMN WHEN IT WAS A BIG SHOPPING
04:46:28PM CENTER.
04:46:28PM ALL WILL CHANGE TO WHAT?
04:46:31PM INTERNALLY LIVABLE OF WHATEVER YOU NEED.
04:46:33PM INCLUDING DOCTORS.
04:46:34PM SO WE ARE CHANGING AMERICA.
04:46:36PM USED TO BE YBOR CITY AND DOWNTOWN.
04:46:40PM IT IS NORTHGATE AND BRITTON PLAZA.
04:46:43PM THAT IS GONE IN A WAY COMING BACK.
04:46:45PM AND NOW YOU LOOK AT THINGS IN LIFE TO CHANGE.
04:46:50PM WHY?
04:46:51PM BECAUSE LAZY.
04:46:52PM AMAZON DELIVERS THE NEXT DAY.
04:46:54PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE.
04:46:55PM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AND I APPRECIATE
04:46:59PM THAT AND I HAVE GOT TO LEARN HOW TO USE A COMPUTER, I GUESS,
04:47:01PM OR I WON'T BE ABLE TO EAT.
04:47:04PM THESE ARE THE THINGS COMING AROUND AND YOU HAVE TO LEARN
04:47:09PM THESE THINGS AND GO DOWN THE HOLE.
04:47:11PM YOU CAN'T MAKE IT.
04:47:12PM YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS IN LIFE THAT ARE DIFFICULT.
04:47:15PM I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT NOT BECAUSE MY COLLEAGUES SPOKE THAT
04:47:18PM WAY.
04:47:18PM BECAUSE I FELT THE SAME WAY THEY DID ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED
04:47:22PM TO ME, THE 127 UNITS.
04:47:23PM COULD HAVE GONE FURTHER, HIGHER AND MORE DENSITY; HOWEVER,
04:47:28PM WOULD YOU HAVE MORE PROBLEMS IF YOU HAD GONE BIGGER.
04:47:30PM THAT IS ALL I WANT TO SAY.
04:47:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE CLOSED.
04:47:33PM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:47:35PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:47:37PM OPINION AMENDMENT FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND IT WAS
04:47:41PM ACCEPTED.
04:47:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE THE AMENDMENTS AS WELL.
04:47:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REGARDING THE GARAGE LENGTH.
04:47:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, 19 FOOT, 10 INCHES.
04:47:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 19 FOOT, 10 INCHES.
04:47:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET'S REOPEN IT FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY.
04:48:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 18.9 TO 19 BY 10 INCHES.
04:48:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
04:48:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO REOPEN.
04:48:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:48:16PM ALL IN FAVOR TO REOPEN.
04:48:17PM MR. HUDSON --
04:48:19PM >> TYLER HUDSON FOR THE RECORD.
04:48:20PM WHAT WE PROPOSED AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS THAT EACH
04:48:25PM PARKING SPACE IS 19 FEET 10 INCHES BY 10 FEET.
04:48:30PM AND EACH OF OUR -- EACH GARAGE CONTAINS TWO OF THOSE PARKING
04:48:35PM SPACES SO THE DIMENSIONS WOULD BE 19 FEET 10 INCHES BY 20
04:48:39PM FEET.
04:48:39PM BUT I THINK THE WAY THE VOCABULARY OF THE SITE PLAN BY
04:48:45PM REFERENCE.
04:48:45PM 19 FEET 10 INCHES BY 10 FEET IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
04:48:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK IF STAFF CONCURS WITH
04:48:53PM UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT CONDITION IS?
04:48:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL AMEND MY AMENDMENT TO BE EACH SPACE
04:49:02PM WILL BE 19 FEET, 10 INCHES BY 10 FEET.
04:49:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ACCEPTED.
04:49:10PM >> COME UP HERE.
04:49:18PM LET'S GET THIS RIGHT.
04:49:19PM IT IS ONE PARKING SPACE --
04:49:22PM >> WELL -- BRIAN LeBLANC, HOMES BY WEST BAY.
04:49:26PM TOTAL TWO-CAR GARAGE 19 FEET, 10 INCHES BY --
04:49:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLEARLY FORCED RECORD, SIR IF BRIAN WILL HE
04:49:40PM BLANK BY HOMES BY WEST BAY.
04:49:42PM >> IF I CAN EXPLICITLY HERE BECAUSE THIS DOES MATTER.
04:49:46PM WHAT WE LIST ON THE SITE PLAN IS 254 PARKING SPACES.
04:49:52PM THERE ARE TWO SPACES PER GARAGE.
04:49:54PM SO ONE PARKING SPACE IS 19 FEET 10 INCHES BY TEN FEET.
04:49:59PM ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT?
04:50:05PM FIELDS WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS APPROVING WITH A CONDITION.
04:50:08PM THEIR CONDITION WILL SAY THAT THE SPACES WITHIN THE GARAGE
04:50:11PM NEED TO BE -- SO THAT WON'T IMPACT YOUR SURFACE SPACES.
04:50:15PM >> UNDERSTOOD.
04:50:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEY ARE SPEAKING TO THE GARAGE SPACES.
04:50:21PM >> THE SURFACE SPACES ARE GARAGE SPACES.
04:50:24PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CAPTURE IT WITH THE GARAGE 19 FEET, 10
04:50:29PM INCHES BY 20 FEET.
04:50:30PM UNLESS YOU HAVE SINGLE GARAGES.
04:50:33PM >> WE DON'T.
04:50:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SINCE WE ARE OPEN, CAN YOU GUYS STIPULATE
04:50:38PM THAT OAKELLAR -- WHY CAN'T I SAY -- THAT STREET THAT RUNS
04:50:43PM BEHIND THIS PROPERTY THAT IS EMERGENCY ACCESS -- CAN IT BE
04:50:46PM STRICTLY EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY?
04:50:49PM TO BUILD THE PROJECT WITH EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY?
04:50:52PM >> WE CAN'T DO THAT.
04:50:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK YOU WHY NOT?
04:50:57PM GIVE ME SOMETHING --
04:51:01PM >> PAINT A PICTURE ON SUNDAY 127 RESIDENTS GOING FAST GRACE
04:51:05PM FAMILY CHURCH, WHEN CHURCH IS IN SESSION.
04:51:07PM >> IT'S NEEDED.
04:51:12PM >> THERE IS A REQUIREMENT.
04:51:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU IMAGINE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE
04:51:17PM -- YOU ARE SAYING NOW WE THROW OUT 120 RESIDENTS.
04:51:21PM >> IT IS RIGHT-HANDED ONLY.
04:51:26PM >> WE ACCEPTED THE CONDITION.
04:51:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTIONING TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
04:51:33PM VIERA.
04:51:33PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:51:35PM NOW WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:51:37PM AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH THAT AMENDMENT.
04:51:40PM WE HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS ON RECORD.
04:51:42PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
04:51:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEGRUDGINGLY YES.
04:51:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEGRUDGINGLY YES.
04:51:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
04:51:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:51:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:51:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:52:00PM >> MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
04:52:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
04:52:05PM IT HAS BEEN THREE HOURS.
04:52:07PM WE ARE RECESSED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
05:03:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS CITY OF TAMPA
05:03:36PM MEETING TO ORDER.
05:03:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:03:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:03:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
05:03:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
05:03:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:03:42PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:03:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
05:03:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY FIRM USES ONE OR MORE OF THESE LAW FIRMS
05:03:53PM ON ITEM 35.
05:03:54PM I CLEARED IT WITH MARTY IN ADVANCE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK
05:03:58PM HIM ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OFF-LINE.
05:04:00PM SO NOT TO RECUSE MYSELF NOW.
05:04:02PM I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM 35 TO JUNE 5th.
05:04:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 35.
05:04:14PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
05:04:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST THAT. THIS IS WHY.
05:04:18PM I DON'T SEE -- UNLESS THIS ABSOLUTELY CAUSES NO PROBLEM
05:04:21PM WHATSOEVER FOR OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT -- AND I WOULD LIKE TO
05:04:25PM INQUIRE ON THAT.
05:04:26PM I THINK WE CAN EASILY PASS THIS.
05:04:32PM CITY CAN RETAIN ATTORNEYS WHEN THINGS COME UP ON AN
05:04:36PM EMERGENCY BASIS AND SO FORTH.
05:04:37PM UNLESS IS GOING TO BE LIKE A TIE VOTE AND COUNCIL MEMBER
05:04:41PM CARLSON NEEDS TO INQUIRE ON THIS ISSUE.
05:04:47PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ANDREA ZELMAN.
05:04:48PM CITY ATTORNEY.
05:04:49PM I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING THE CONFLICT QUESTION.
05:04:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ASK -- MY FIRM USES ONE
05:04:56PM OR MORE OF THESE FIRMS AS LEGAL COUNSEL AND I WANT TO ASK
05:05:00PM MARTY.
05:05:01PM I THOUGHT I CLEARED HIM IN ADVANCE AND I REALIZE I HAVE
05:05:05PM MORE QUESTIONS.
05:05:06PM SO AS TO NOT RECUSE MYSELF, I ASK TO DEFER THIS UNTIL JUNE
05:05:10PM 5.
05:05:11PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YOUR FIRM IS USING THESE LAW FIRMS IS NOT A
05:05:17PM VOTING CONFLICT.
05:05:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS.
05:05:21PM I CAN RECUSE MYSELF OR DEFER IT.
05:05:26PM HIS QUESTION IF IT WOULD DISRUPT THE BUSINESS OF THE
05:05:30PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I WOULD RECUSE MYSELF.
05:05:33PM IF NOT, WE WILL DEFER IT FOR TWO WEEKS.
05:05:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
05:05:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I TALKED TO TWO LAWYERS TODAY ABOUT THIS.
05:05:40PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOUR SON-IN-LAW
05:05:50PM WORKS FOR ONE OF THE LAW FIRMS AND YOU MUST RECUSE YOURSELF
05:05:53PM ON THE VOTE.
05:05:54PM WE ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING ON $100,000.
05:05:58PM WE ARE BUMPING UP AND EXCEEDING IT IN A COUPLE OF CASES AND
05:06:02PM THE REASON WE ARE ASKING TO YOU MOVE ON IT.
05:06:04PM CAN WE WAIT UNTIL JUNE 5, I GUESS WE CAN.
05:06:06PM BUT WE NEED TO MOVE ON THIS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
05:06:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM DOING IT BECAUSE I HAVE TO, NOT
05:06:11PM BECAUSE I WANT TO.
05:06:13PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I UNDERSTAND, SIR.
05:06:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE.
05:06:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. MASSEY, YOU ARE OKAY WITH A CONTINUANCE?
05:06:21PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BUT WE NEED TO -- WE CAN'T HAVE THIS
05:06:23PM CONTINUED ON AND ON AND ON.
05:06:24PM IF THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT -- TO HAVE
05:06:30PM CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
05:06:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONTINUE ITEM 35 FOR JUNE 5.
05:06:37PM MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:06:38PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE -- WHAT, WITH THE SUBSTITUTE BECAUSE A
05:06:42PM CORRECTION THERE WITH ONE OF THE FIRMS.
05:06:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SUBSTITUTE WITH A CORRECTION.
05:06:46PM THE MOTION TO CONTINUE WAS BY --
05:06:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
05:06:53PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
05:06:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLENDENIN MADE THE SECOND.
05:06:57PM AND MR. MIRANDA WILL BE ABSTAINING?
05:07:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO CONTINUE NUMBER 35 TO JUNE 5,
05:07:06PM 2025.
05:07:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
05:07:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN
05:07:11PM HURTAK.
05:07:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM THAT?
05:07:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BILL AND CHARLIE ARE ABSTAINING.
05:07:21PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON AND MIRANDA ABSTAINING.
05:07:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:07:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I.
05:07:31PM MY MOTHER IS IN TOWN -- SO I HAVE TO LEAVE AT SOME POINT
05:07:39PM RELATIVELY NOT TOO LONG FROM NOW.
05:07:41PM SO I HE DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD POSSIBLY
05:07:48PM LOOK AT A DIFFERENT DATE FOR MIDYEAR REVIEW?
05:07:52PM I MEAN, IT IS ALSO 5:00.
05:07:53PM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG PEOPLE WANT TO STAY HERE.
05:07:56PM WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS.
05:08:00PM THESE ARE LONG CONVERSATIONS.
05:08:02PM I JUST DON'T SEE US HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO THAT TODAY.
05:08:05PM BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT JUNE 5 IS PACKED.
05:08:08PM SO WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO?
05:08:10PM DO WE DO A DIFFERENT DAY?
05:08:12PM WHAT DO WE DO?
05:08:13PM BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE MENTAL CAPACITY NOW TO GET THROUGH
05:08:17PM IT ALL AND I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT ALL OF US ARE TIRED
05:08:23PM AFTER THAT LONG HEARING, AT LEAST MENTALLY.
05:08:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING CRITICAL ON THIS AGENDA THAT WE
05:08:29PM CAN NOT HAVE FOR A DATE TO BE DETERMINED.
05:08:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE PROBLEM IS NOT A DATE TO BE DETERMINED
05:08:34PM THAT IS NOT FAR OFF.
05:08:35PM THE ISSUE IS, THEY NEED THAT RESOLUTION PASSED.
05:08:38PM THE BUDGET RESOLUTION NEEDS TO GET PASSED IN A DECENT AMOUNT
05:08:42PM OF TIME.
05:08:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT THURSDAY AT THE END OF THE
05:08:49PM WORKSHOP.
05:08:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT WE HAVE THE GIANT
05:08:53PM PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE THAT NIGHT.
05:08:54PM THE ONE THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN 200 E-MAILS ABOUT, THAT IS
05:08:58PM COMING THAT NIGHT SO I JUST -- I THINK IT WILL BE A LONG --
05:09:03PM I MEAN -- I DON'T WANT TO ADD ANOTHER MEETING ON THE 29th,
05:09:08PM BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF US WILL BE OUT OF TOWN OR OTHERWISE
05:09:12PM INDISPOSED.
05:09:13PM WE COULD DO THE 29th.
05:09:15PM NEVER MIND, OUR LAWYER IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
05:09:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 26, THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL REGULAR
05:09:22PM SESSION.
05:09:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, JUNE 26.
05:09:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE A MOTION.
05:09:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WANT TO MAKE INQUIRY OF STAFF TO MAKE
05:09:31PM SURE THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
05:09:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT MR. PERRY, THE MIDYEAR REVIEW THAT
05:09:37PM YOU WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
05:09:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER F 25-14353 AND ITEM 77, FILE
05:09:45PM NUMBER CM 25-13402.
05:09:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY WITH YOU?
05:09:52PM >>MIKE PERRY: MIKE PERRY, BUDGET OFFICER.
05:09:54PM I AM OKAY BUT I HAD FINANCIAL ADVISOR HERE SINCE 1:30.
05:09:59PM AND BOND COUNSEL HERE FOR A WHILE.
05:10:01PM NOW ON JUNE 5 OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE ARE GOING TO
05:10:06PM BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL A BOND RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE
05:10:12PM ISSUANCE OF $65 MILLION IN NONAD VALOREM REVENUE BONDS.
05:10:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT THAT WITH THAT.
05:10:21PM JUNE 5 AND -- TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE ON THAT ONE.
05:10:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM FINE WITH THAT ONE.
05:10:28PM SO 73.
05:10:29PM FILE NUMBER F 25-14353 MOVING TO JUNE 5 TO GO ALONG WITH THE
05:10:39PM $65 MILLION BUDGET BOND RESOLUTION.
05:10:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU SAID SOMETHING ELSE THAT WILL BE MOVED
05:10:49PM AS WELL.
05:10:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT AT THIS TIME.
05:10:51PM DO I HAVE A SECOND?
05:10:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
05:10:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER
05:10:58PM CARLSON.
05:10:59PM 77 FOR JUNE 26.
05:11:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER 25-13402 TO MOVE TO JUNE 26.
05:11:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
05:11:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
05:11:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:11:14PM OPPOSED?
05:11:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OUR AGENDA REVIEW.
05:11:19PM 80 AND 81.
05:11:21PM I WOULD LIKE TO RESCIND THAT -- 80 AND 81.
05:11:25PM I WOULD LIKE TO RESCIND THAT.
05:11:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: ACTUALLY, IF I MAY.
05:11:30PM FOR 81, I DID NEED TO SPEAK ON THAT.
05:11:34PM BECAUSE YOU GUYS GO THE A LETTER FROM THE FOREST HILLS
05:11:37PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ASKING THAT THE SPORTS RECREATION
05:11:39PM FIELD BE NAMED AFTER ROLAND PAZ SR., WHICH I FULLY SUPPORT.
05:11:44PM WE WILL NEED TO HAVE A BRIEF DISCUSSION.
05:11:46PM MISS VAN LOAN IS HERE.
05:11:48PM BUT -- AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT. THIS A COMPLIMENT TO
05:11:53PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IF SHE SAYS SHE IS TIRED.
05:11:56PM BECAUSE SHE ALWAYS HAS A LOT OF ENERGY FOR THESE MEETINGS.
05:11:59PM BUT SO FOR 81, I WOULD BE FINE WITH MOVING THAT TO ANOTHER
05:12:04PM DATE.
05:12:04PM BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ANOTHER --
05:12:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ADD THAT TO THE END OF THE WORKSHOP.
05:12:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: FINE.
05:12:14PM IT WILL TAKE TEN MINUTES.
05:12:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE END OF NEXT WEEK'S WORKSHOP.
05:12:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO STAFF FOR 80 AND MOVE THE OTHER ONE.
05:12:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAY 22.
05:12:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
05:12:29PM WE WILL TO THAT NOW AFTER THIS.
05:12:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SKIPPED 80.
05:12:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RECEIVED AND FILED THE 80.
05:12:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS UP.
05:12:39PM WHAT IS YOUR DEADLINE NOW?
05:12:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: WITH THIS?
05:12:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LEAVING SO WE DON'T LOSE YOU.
05:12:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: NOVEMBER -- I SOUGHT -- WE WILL GET IT IN.
05:12:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT.
05:12:54PM RESIGNING.
05:12:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: FREEDOM HIGH SCHOOL -- IT SAYS -- SAYS 45
05:13:05PM MINUTES MORE OR LESS.
05:13:07PM 27 MINUTES, GUYS, I AM OUT.
05:13:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, HE PULLED 45 AND 46, AND I PULLED ONLY
05:13:16PM TO -- IT WAS ON CONSENT.
05:13:18PM I PULLED IT TO SIMPLY VOTE NO.
05:13:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WAIT, WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF.
05:13:24PM 80 WAS A RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:13:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:13:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
05:13:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:13:31PM OPPOSED?
05:13:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY -- I MOVE 81 TO BE HEARD.
05:13:38PM AND AGAIN SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN FIVE OR TEN MINUTES ON
05:13:41PM JUNE 6, IF I MAY.
05:13:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT WE SAID MAY 22 AT THE END.
05:13:46PM HOW ABOUT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE WORKSHOP SOME THAT --
05:13:50PM BECAUSE OUR WORKSHOPS TEND TO BE EBB AND FLOW.
05:13:54PM SO LET'S DO IT FIRST THING.
05:13:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD IDEA.
05:13:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SEE HER LOVELY FACE FIRST THING IN THE
05:14:01PM MORNING.
05:14:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR ITEM 81 TO BE
05:14:07PM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MORNING EARS WORKSHOP.
05:14:11PM MAY 22.
05:14:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:14:14PM OPPOSED.
05:14:14PM ALL RIGHT.
05:14:15PM AND -- SO WE GO -- COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
05:14:20PM YOU PULLED 45 AND 46.
05:14:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CONSENT AGENDA.
05:14:24PM I PULLED IT TO VOTE NO.
05:14:27PM I DON'T NEED A DISCUSSION.
05:14:28PM I WANTED TO VOTE NO.
05:14:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR ONE LITTLE BIT
05:14:33PM IF YOU DON'T MIND.
05:14:34PM SINCE WE HAVE RELATED PEOPLE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
05:14:36PM SINCE WE ARE KIND OF OPENING THIS UP AMONG MANY THINGS.
05:14:41PM DISCUSSIONS WITH WHAT HE GOING TO SAY.
05:14:43PM TWO THINGS.
05:14:45PM ONE, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION OF THE COUNTY BUILDING THIS
05:14:49PM FACILITY ACROSS THE STREET.
05:14:51PM WHICH HAS HAPPENED SUBSEQUENT TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT
05:14:55PM AGREEMENT AND THE DISCUSSION OF THE YELLOWJACKETS FORMALLY
05:14:59PM RESIDENTS OF THE PROPERTY AND PLAYING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
05:15:03PM SOME WAY TO GET AN AGREEMENT WITH RELATED TO REENTER
05:15:06PM CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE COMMUNITY
05:15:09PM BENEFIT AGREEMENT TO -- TO WORK ON BE THIS -- THESE PROJECTS
05:15:13PM TOGETHER?
05:15:13PM I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A RELUCTANCE TO KIND OF REOPEN THAT.
05:15:17PM SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD WORK TO YOUR BENEFIT AS A DEVELOPER
05:15:19PM BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON PARTS OF
05:15:22PM THE CB THAT MAYBE WE CAN FIGURE OUT A COMPROMISE THAT WOULD
05:15:26PM MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
05:15:27PM AT LEAST HAVE SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT IT.
05:15:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: REMEMBER, WE BROUGHT THAT UP -- CHAIR,
05:15:34PM YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE ME.
05:15:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:15:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TO FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
05:15:42PM I BROUGHT THAT UP, AND THIS AGREEMENT WITH RELATED GROUP
05:15:46PM EXISTS AND LOCKED IN STONE IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTY PORTION
05:15:49PM OF IT.
05:15:49PM SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT THE
05:15:54PM YELLOWJACKETS, BECAUSE THAT -- YOU KNOW, THAT WAS -- THAT
05:15:57PM WAS A BIG, BIG ISSUE FOR ME.
05:15:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE ASK -- WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THIS
05:16:02PM FORWARD.
05:16:02PM CAN WE ASK THAT --
05:16:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I NEED TO FINISH TALKING.
05:16:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:16:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET MR. CLENDENIN FINISH WHAT HE IS
05:16:14PM SAYING.
05:16:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE PLAYERS IS SITTING IN FRONT OF US THAT
05:16:19PM AND SOMETHING IS CONSTANTLY TALKED ABOUT.
05:16:20PM ENTER INTO THE DISCUSSION AND REOPENING THAT COMMUNITY
05:16:23PM BENEFIT AGREEMENT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NEW REALITIES OF
05:16:25PM WHERE WE ARE IN 2025 VERSUS MAYBE WHERE WE STARTED WITH THE
05:16:29PM COUNTY'S PROJECT ACROSS THE STATE AND WITH MAYBE HELPING --
05:16:32PM MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
05:16:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DIDN'T WE USE THE WORD "EXTORTION."
05:16:43PM PUTTING THEM ON THE SPOT TO SAY THEY SHOULD OPEN THE
05:16:46PM COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT, AND, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER
05:16:50PM STANDING RIGHT HERE BEFORE US.
05:16:51PM WHEN THERE IS PROGRESS ON ROME YARD.
05:16:53PM AND THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD REALLY TALK ABOUT IF WE WILL TALK
05:16:57PM ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
05:16:58PM THE FACT PROGRESS -- AND WE CAN'T LET THE PUBLIC COMMENT GO BY
05:17:04PM AND LEAPT THE PUBLIC THINK THAT IS REALLY TRUE WHEN WE HAVE
05:17:07PM A TIMELINE.
05:17:09PM WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE HUD -- WAITING FOR CLEARANCE FROM
05:17:12PM HUD BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ON THE PROPERTY AND
05:17:16PM REMEMBER A SITE WHERE ALL OF OUR TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING
05:17:18PM MAINTENANCE WAS -- WAS LOCATED, SO THERE WAS SOME THINGS
05:17:21PM THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE THAT HELD THAT UP.
05:17:23PM AND IF WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT, THAT IS THE PART WE
05:17:26PM SHOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY A REALITY AS IT RELATES TO
05:17:29PM THIS PROJECT, NOT THE WHAT IFS.
05:17:31PM AND TO THE POINT ABOUT THE CULTURAL CENTER.
05:17:34PM REMEMBER A COUNTY SITUATION.
05:17:35PM AND THERE IS A REVERTER CLAUSE ON THAT LAND.
05:17:38PM THAT IS A WHOLE ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS AND THAT ONE CAN HE
05:17:42PM WANT TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTED TO US IF
05:17:45PM WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE THAT REVERT CLAUSE.
05:17:49PM SO THAT DISCUSSION WOULD BE A MOOT POINT, DESPITE WHAT, YOU
05:17:53PM KNOW, THE -- THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER OR WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON
05:17:57PM THAT LAND.
05:17:58PM NOT NECESSARILY A REALITY.
05:18:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, NEVER MIND.
05:18:02PM GIVE ME A CALL WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE.
05:18:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS FEELEY, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD
05:18:07PM LIKE TO ADD?
05:18:07PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, ADMINISTRATOR OF ECONOMIC
05:18:11PM OPPORTUNITY.
05:18:11PM WE WERE PREPARED TO MAKE A QUITE PRESENTATION ON ROMERA.
05:18:17PM THIS WAS ON CONSENT.
05:18:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SAY CALL THE QUESTION ON IT.
05:18:20PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NOW THAT WE ARE AT THE PODIUM AND WHAT HAD YOU
05:18:23PM JUST MENTIONED, IF I MAY, JUST A FEW THINGS.
05:18:25PM THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH
05:18:28PM THIS PROJECT -- AND IN THIS PROJECT, I AM REALLY MANAGING
05:18:33PM THIS PROJECT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH RELATED WHO WAS GIVEN THAT
05:18:36PM RELATED URBAN THAT WAS GIVEN -- AWARDED THAT RFP.
05:18:41PM REBECCA AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE LEASES AND A TON OF
05:18:47PM OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
05:18:48PM AND I DID -- I DO WANT TO PASS THIS TIME LINE OUT.
05:18:51PM BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN MULTIPLE TIMES WHEN IT HAS BEEN SAID
05:18:54PM THAT NOTHING IS BEING DONE AT ROME YARD AND CONCERNING TO ME
05:18:58PM BECAUSE A LOT IS BEING DONE AT ROME YARD.
05:19:00PM JUST NOT VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT WE ARE ALL USED TO.
05:19:03PM I WANT TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION YOU WITH SO YOU HAVE IT.
05:19:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN MULTIPLE COPIES OR --
05:19:10PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THERE IS AS COPY FOR EACH OF YOU.
05:19:13PM THAT BEING SAID, PHASE 3-A, THE AMENDED LEASE BEFORE YOU
05:19:19PM TODAY BECAUSE RELATED HAS RECEIVED THEIR FUNDING AND
05:19:23PM CONDITION IN THAT FUNDING THAT NEEDED ADJUSTMENTS AND THAT
05:19:26PM IS WHAT WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU TODAY IF THE PROJECT GETS
05:19:30PM DOWN THE ROAD, THAT COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT THAT WAS
05:19:32PM WORKED ON WITH THE COMMUNITY, IF THERE COMES A PIVOT POINT
05:19:35PM IN THIS PROJECT THAT THAT COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT
05:19:38PM SHOULD BE REOPENED.
05:19:43PM THAT WILL COME TO YOU WHEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
05:19:46PM BUT WE ARE NOT THERE TODAY.
05:19:47PM A NUMBER OF DISCUSSIONS GOING ON WITH THE OTHER CULTURAL
05:19:52PM SENT EARNED WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK WITH.
05:19:54PM WHAT WAS WORKED ON AND AGREED ON IT TO THE COMMUNITY AND
05:19:57PM BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL IS WHAT ON THE BOOKS TODAY
05:20:01PM AND MOVING FORWARD.
05:20:02PM UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THIS PROJECT MAY GET TO A DIFFERENT
05:20:05PM POINT IN A DIFFERENT TIME WHEN THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE
05:20:08PM REOPENED AND DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL MAY COME FOR THAT TO
05:20:11PM BE REOPENED, WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
05:20:13PM WHERE WE ARE IS THAT THERE SHOULD BE PERMITS BEING ISSUED
05:20:16PM HERE SHORTLY.
05:20:17PM VERT CONSTRUCTION WILL START.
05:20:24PM WE ARE ALWAYS THERE IS TO DISCUSS THIS.
05:20:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CALL THE QUESTION.
05:20:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN IS MOVING 45 AND 46.
05:20:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM SAYING LET'S MOVE 45 AND 46.
05:20:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW.
05:20:35PM ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH 45 AND 46.
05:20:38PM HE HAS MOVED IT.
05:20:39PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:20:41PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:20:42PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:20:47PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
05:20:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:20:52PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA AND GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
05:20:54PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
05:20:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS BUT WANT TO MAKE
05:20:59PM THAT ONE MOTION FIRST, BECAUSE I WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE
05:21:02PM OF -- OF A VOTE ON THE LAST REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
05:21:08PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE FOR
05:21:11PM CHAIR.
05:21:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
05:21:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION.
05:21:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS A SECOND.
05:21:19PM AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOU HAD YOUR MICROPHONE ON.
05:21:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN I WAS GOING TO MAKE COMMENTS.
05:21:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
05:21:25PM FOR THE FIRST TIME, I DID READ THE MEMO THAT WAS PROVIDED TO
05:21:30PM OUR CHAIR FROM THE MAYOR, AND I ASKED OUR ATTORNEY, CITY
05:21:34PM COUNCIL ATTORNEY, YOU KNOW, SISTER WITHIN HER RIGHT TO WRITE
05:21:36PM THE ACTUAL CHAIR A MEMO AND NOT COPY US.
05:21:39PM AND HE SAID, YES, SHE IS ENTITLED TO DO THAT.
05:21:42PM IT WASN'T LIKE IT WAS A SECRET.
05:21:44PM AND THE THING IS THAT WHEN I READ THROUGH IT, SHE ADDRESSED
05:21:48PM SOMETHING THAT SHE ALSO IS ENTITLED TO ADDRESS.
05:21:52PM SHE TALKED OF RESPECT AND STAFF AND HOW THEY ARE TREATED BY
05:21:55PM US.
05:21:56PM AND SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
05:21:58PM AND SHE ACTUALLY PUT IT IN WRITING.
05:21:59PM THEN THE PART THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO ME IS ON THE
05:22:02PM SECOND PAGE, WHERE SHE DIDN'T TELL THE CHAIR WHAT TO DO.
05:22:06PM SHE ASKED FOR A WORKSHOP THAT -- A WORKSHOP AND IT WAS ABOUT
05:22:11PM THE WORKLOAD.
05:22:12PM ABOUT THE WORKLOAD.
05:22:14PM AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POINTS THAT I TOOK
05:22:18PM AWAY FROM THAT.
05:22:19PM THE STAFF IS CURRENTLY PREPARING OVER 60 REPORTS TO BE
05:22:23PM PRESENTED OR WRITTEN FOR COUNCIL.
05:22:27PM AND THAT IS THE PART WHERE SHE SAID A SPECIAL WORKSHOP TO
05:22:31PM ADDRESS SCHEDULING OF STAFF REPORTS AND WORKING WITH THE
05:22:34PM CHIEF -- CHIEF BENNETT, YOU KNOW, TO COMBINE SIMILAR
05:22:38PM REPORTS, ETC., ETC.
05:22:40PM THAT HAPPENED TO REASON IS BEEN FOLLOWED BY THE DECISION OF
05:22:43PM OUR CHAIR TO CALL FOR A MEETING TO DISCUSS DECORUM AND ETC.
05:22:48PM WHICH HE IS ALSO ENTITLED TO DO.
05:22:50PM WHAT THE "TAMPA TRIBUNE" DECIDED TO REPORT AND WRITE ABOUT
05:22:55PM AS IF THE MEMO WAS A SECRET.
05:22:57PM AND NOW PRESENTED WHERE -- WHERE WE ARE GOING TO RECONSIDER
05:23:01PM THE CHAIR BECAUSE OF -- OF -- OF A MEMO THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW
05:23:05PM ABOUT WHEN WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
05:23:08PM I THINK IT IS JUST REALLY EGREGIOUS.
05:23:11PM AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE IS MORE TO IT THAN WHAT I REALLY
05:23:16PM KNOW.
05:23:16PM AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL ADDRESS THAT.
05:23:20PM BUT AS A BODY COLLECTIVELY, WE HAVE DONE SOME REALLY GREAT
05:23:23PM THINGS TOGETHER UP HERE ON THE DAIS.
05:23:26PM WE HAD MADE HARD DECISIONS MOVING OUR CITY FORWARD.
05:23:29PM AND TO -- TO PUNISH IS THE ONLY WORD THAT I CAN THINK OF
05:23:37PM DURING OUR LUNCH BREAK IS THIS IS SOME FORM OF PUNISHMENT TO
05:23:41PM -- TO EVEN SUGGEST THAT THE CHAIRMANSHIP BE TAKEN AWAY FROM
05:23:47PM SOMEONE BECAUSE OF A MEMO THAT THE MAYOR WAS ACTUALLY
05:23:49PM ENTITLED TO WRITE AND PROVIDE TO THE CHAIR EVEN THOUGH SHE
05:23:53PM DID NOT COPY CITY COUNCIL ON IT.
05:23:54PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
05:23:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER, VIERA.
05:23:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:23:59PM I THOUGHT OF THIS ISSUE A LOT SINCE THE MOTION WAS MADE AND
05:24:02PM SO FORTH.
05:24:03PM YOU KNOW, THERE IS -- EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN RATIONALE WHY
05:24:17PM THEY VOTE A DIFFERENT WAY.
05:24:18PM MY QUALIFICATION IS THAT THIS IS BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.
05:24:22PM THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RATIONAL AND PREROGATIVE WHY THEY WILL
05:24:28PM VOTE A CERTAIN WAY AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
05:24:31PM MINE IS NARROWLY TAILORED.
05:24:33PM ON THE ISSUE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON DESCRIBED, I DON'T
05:24:38PM SEE THAT HAS TO JUSTIFY SOMEBODY FLIPPING THEIR VOTE.
05:24:41PM WE ARE SEVEN PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY IS IN CHARGE OF THEIR OWN
05:24:44PM VOTES.
05:24:44PM IF I HAD SUPPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AS I HAVE DONE
05:24:48PM THREE TIMES IN THE PAST, I -- THAT WOULD NOT JUSTIFY, IN MY
05:24:52PM VIEW, FLIPPING MY; HOWEVER, THAT IS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON'S
05:24:57PM PREROGATIVE TO DO WHAT HE WISHES.
05:24:59PM I SEE SOMETHING THAT IS NARROWLY TAILORED FOR ME.
05:25:01PM I DOMINATED ALAN CLENDENIN FOR CHAIR.
05:25:05PM SO, THEREFORE, IF THIS MOTION IS -- IS INTENDED TO SUPPORT
05:25:10PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR CHAIR, I WOULD ACT CONSISTENT
05:25:14PM WITH HOW I VOTED LEAST WEEK.
05:25:15PM IF NOT, I WILL NOT ACT CONSISTENT WITH HOW I VOTED LAST WEEK
05:25:18PM BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE A CONSISTENT EXTENSION OF THE VOTE THAT
05:25:22PM I HAVE MADE.
05:25:23PM AGAIN, I VOTED FOR COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
05:25:25PM NOTHING AGAINST COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
05:25:27PM A FINE GENTLEMAN AND HAS DONE GREAT.
05:25:30PM I NOMINATED HIM TWICE FOR CHAIR AND VOTED FOR THEM THREE
05:25:34PM TIMES.
05:25:34PM ON ISSUES, ONE, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WOULD DO A
05:25:39PM GOOD JOB.
05:25:39PM NUMBER TWO, I THINK ONE INDIVIDUAL NO MATTER TO THEY ARE.
05:25:43PM NOT A COMMENTARY ON COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, A GREAT
05:25:48PM GENTLEMAN WITH GREAT HEART AND COMPASSION.
05:25:53PM IT IS TOO MUCH.
05:25:54PM AND MY VOTE IS SOMETHING THAT IS NARROWLY TAILORED OF HOW I
05:25:59PM VOTE LAST TIME.
05:26:00PM OTHER PEOPLE'S VOTES ARE THEIR OWN PREROGATIVE.
05:26:03PM I AM EXPLAINING MINE HOW I ACT TO VOTE CONSISTENT LAST TIME.
05:26:09PM I DO NOT KNOW OF THE RATION MALL IN OF COUNCIL MEMBER
05:26:14PM CARLSON.
05:26:15PM MINE IS HOW I VOTED LAST TIME.
05:26:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:26:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY, IF YOU HAVEN'T, WE HAVE
05:26:23PM GOT A MOTION TRACKER -- DID YOU GET THAT?
05:26:29PM IF YOU LOOK THROUGH IT, A LOT OF THINGS THAT ADMINISTRATION
05:26:33PM PUT ON TO BEGIN WITH.
05:26:34PM I JUST -- IF YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT IS --
05:26:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT.
05:26:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
05:26:44PM WE PRINT IT OUT AND FOUND OURS AND WE MADE SURE THAT WE ARE
05:26:47PM TALKING TO STAFF AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT WE ARE EXTRA NEWS
05:26:52PM ON THERE EXTRANEOUS.
05:26:55PM I LOVE THIS AND I WOULD LIKE ACCESS TO IT MORE OFTEN,
05:26:59PM BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO THINK THIS A LITTLE MORE.
05:27:02PM I REALLY LIKED THIS.
05:27:04PM I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT DOCUMENT AND FOUND IT HIGHLY
05:27:08PM USEFUL.
05:27:09PM I RECOMMEND YOU PRINT IT OUT AND LOOK AT IT BECAUSE GAVE US
05:27:12PM AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
05:27:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHERE DID YOU GET THAT.
05:27:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WAS E-MAILED TO US BY -- I WANT TO SAY MY
05:27:20PM MICHAEL BISHOP.
05:27:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DARLENE, I WANT ONE.
05:27:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO COMMENT ON
05:27:25PM THAT.
05:27:25PM SO AS FAR AS THE -- THE LETTER, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO
05:27:31PM HAVE.
05:27:31PM AND I WILL SAY THAT I DID ASK FOR AN AGENDA AND DIDN'T GET
05:27:36PM ONE.
05:27:36PM I GUESS THAT IS WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT IS THIS.
05:27:39PM SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION WHAT YOU MENTIONED.
05:27:43PM AND TO HAVE EVERYBODY GET THIS MOTION TRACKER, BECAUSE IT IS
05:27:47PM REALLY COOL.
05:27:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE.
05:27:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST -- ONE MORE THING.
05:27:51PM OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS WHATEVER ANYBODY RUNS FOR, A LOT OF
05:27:58PM POLITICAL CHAFFE OUT THERE.
05:28:00PM AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PUSH ANY NEGATIVE THING THEY CAN
05:28:04PM ABOUT ANYBODY.
05:28:04PM WE AS INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL
05:28:08PM THOSE QUESTIONS AND NOT WORTH RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE
05:28:11PM CRAZY ALLEGATIONS, BUT THE REASON I CITED THIS MORNING
05:28:14PM BECAUSE OF THAT LETTER, BUT I ALSO THINK WE ARE GOING TO
05:28:17PM NEED SOMEBODY BE WHO WILL STRONGLY REPRESENT THE CITY
05:28:21PM COUNCIL. THIS IS AN ELECTED POSITION TO REPRESENT CITY
05:28:24PM COUNCIL.
05:28:24PM I HAVE KNOWN CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO FOR MANY YEARS.
05:28:26PM AND I RESPECT HIM.
05:28:28PM I WOULD NEVER MAKE A DECISION ABOUT AN APPOINTMENT OR
05:28:31PM SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT.
05:28:32PM I AM REALLY OFFENDED AND THAT SOME POLITICAL PEOPLE HAVE
05:28:38PM USED -- TRIED TO USE THE POLICE AS A POLITICAL FOOTBALL.
05:28:43PM OVER ITS LAST FEW DAYS.
05:28:44PM IT IS REALLY DISGUSTING BECAUSE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN
05:28:48PM OF PUBLIC SAFETY WHO PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE EVERY DAY
05:28:51PM DESERVE TO BE TREATED WITH RESPECT.
05:28:52PM IF PEOPLE WANT TO HONOR THEM AND RESPECT THEM, SHOULD NOT
05:28:55PM BECOME A POLITICAL ISSUE.
05:28:57PM WE SHOULD UNITE AND RESPECT THEM.
05:28:59PM THIS IS NOT -- THIS -- MY RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS ABOUT
05:29:02PM MAKING SURE THAT OVER THE NEXT YEAR THAT CITY COUNCIL IS
05:29:08PM ABLE, PER THE CHARTER, TO BE ON EQUAL FOOTING WITH THE
05:29:11PM ADMINISTRATION.
05:29:12PM AND WE OUGHT TO BE PROPERLY REPRESENTED.
05:29:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:29:15PM BEFORE WE GO FOR A VOTE, WE HAD OUR SPECIAL CALLED
05:29:19PM DISCUSSION LAST THURSDAY.
05:29:20PM AN ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN ABOUT IT.
05:29:23PM AND THE "TIMES" REPORTER IN THE BACK AND BACK AND FORTH WITH
05:29:29PM THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION AND MR. SMITH AND COMMENTS IN THE
05:29:31PM ARTICLE AND COMMENTS MADE DURING THE SPELLINGS CALLED
05:29:33PM MEETING REGARDING THE LETTER AND THE ADMINISTRATION.
05:29:35PM WE WERE THERE.
05:29:35PM WE ALL KNOW.
05:29:37PM BUT I -- THE -- THE BASIS OF THIS MOTION TODAY I DON'T THINK
05:29:42PM HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE LETTER.
05:29:43PM IT HAS TO DO WITH AN APPOINTMENT TO -- HAS TO DO WITH AN
05:29:48PM APPOINTMENT ON PUBLIC SAFETY THAT I MADE ON MONDAY AND
05:29:51PM CHANGED ON TUESDAY.
05:29:51PM TO HIDE BEHIND THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE LETTER IS JUST A
05:29:55PM COP-OUT.
05:29:56PM I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
05:29:57PM AND I GUESS TO GET TO THIS POINT I THINK IS RIDICULOUS.
05:30:00PM AN ARTICLE CAME OUT YESTERDAY.
05:30:02PM ARTICLES ARE COMING OUT TODAY.
05:30:03PM BUSINESS JOURNAL ALREADY WROTE SOMETHING ABOUT IT THIS
05:30:06PM MORNING.
05:30:06PM I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.
05:30:08PM THAT IS WHAT TRIGGERED THIS.
05:30:10PM AND HERE WE ARE WITH --
05:30:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST SAID IT IS NOT WHAT TRIGGERED IT.
05:30:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I PUT UP THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS ON
05:30:22PM MONDAY AND I CHANGED THEM ON TUESDAY.
05:30:23PM BASICALLY GOING BACK TO WHAT THEY WERE LAST YEAR.
05:30:26PM AND THAT IS WHAT I THINK TRIGGERED THIS.
05:30:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: PROBLEM IS POLITICAL OPERATIVES TURNED IT
05:30:31PM INTO A POLITICAL FOOTBALL WHICH THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BECAUSE
05:30:35PM IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO POLICE.
05:30:36PM GOES WAY BEYOND THAT.
05:30:38PM DURING THE ORIGINAL LOOK VOTE, I WAS ON THE FENCE DECIDED
05:30:42PM BETWEEN THE TWO PEOPLE I WAS THINKING OF VOTING FOR, I WAS
05:30:45PM ON THE FENCE AND I DECIDED AS I WALKED IN.
05:30:48PM NOT SEEING THE LETTER AND BEING BLINDSIDED BY THAT.
05:30:51PM I -- I THINK IT GOES BACK TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE
05:30:55PM SEEN OVER ITS LAST YEAR.
05:30:57PM NO DISRESPECT TO THE CHAIR --
05:30:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE LETTER WAS NOT ADDRESSED TO YOU.
05:31:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: PROBLEM IS -- NOT JUST ABOUT CITY COUNCIL
05:31:06PM BUT TRANSPARENCY.
05:31:07PM NOTHING WAS ON BASE.
05:31:08PM AT THE BEGINNING WE SAID WHAT IS THIS MEETING ABOUT?
05:31:11PM NO AGENDA.
05:31:12PM NO DOCUMENTS.
05:31:13PM THAT LETTER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED BY THE ADMINISTRATION OR
05:31:17PM THE CHAIR.
05:31:17PM BECAUSE THE CHAIR CALLED THE MEETING.
05:31:19PM THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
05:31:22PM WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT WILL TALK TO THE ADMINISTRATION WITH
05:31:24PM STRENGTH AND RESPECT, BUT TALK TO THE ADMINISTRATION IN A
05:31:27PM WAY THAT LET'S US FULFILL OUR DUTIES ON THE CHARTER WHERE
05:31:30PM YOU SHOULDN'T TRY TO GET ANY MORE POWERS THAT ARE IN THE
05:31:34PM CLEARER BUT PROTECT THOSE DUTIES.
05:31:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF
05:31:39PM THE LETTER WITH THE MEETING ON THURSDAY.
05:31:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE LETTER UNTIL I SAW
05:31:44PM THE ARTICLE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
05:31:45PM BEEN REF REFERENCED IT I DIDN'T KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE UNTIL
05:31:48PM I SAW THE ARTICLE.
05:31:50PM ONCE I SAW THE --
05:31:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS IT WORTH THE REMOVAL OF A
05:31:57PM CHAIRMANSHIP?
05:31:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY DO WE KEEP BEATING THIS DEAD HORSE.
05:32:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS FOXX-KNOWLES IS HERE.
05:32:08PM SHOULD WE HEAR WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY.
05:32:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I ASK, IS YOUR INTENT TO SUPPORT ALAN
05:32:15PM CLENDENIN FOR CHAIR?
05:32:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: I UNDERSTAND TWO VOTES.
05:32:18PM ONE IS TO REOPEN IT AND SECOND, I WOULD SUPPORT ALAN
05:32:23PM CLENDENIN.
05:32:24PM NOT TO PUNISH EVERYBODY --
05:32:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT ABOUT PUNISHMENT, IT IS ABOUT
05:32:29PM REVENGE.
05:32:29PM I DIDN'T COME HERE FOR REVENGE.
05:32:31PM I CAME HERE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
05:32:34PM I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
05:32:35PM WE HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG TIME.
05:32:36PM TO GET TO THIS POINT.
05:32:38PM IT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE.
05:32:40PM YOU MADE THE MOTION, FINE.
05:32:41PM BUT THE TIMES HAVE REPORTED REGARDING OUR SPECIAL CALL.
05:32:44PM BUSINESS JOURNAL HAS REPORTED.
05:32:46PM FLORIDA POLITICS REPORTED YESTERDAY.
05:32:48PM AND WITHIN 24 HOURS, THIS MOTION IS HERE.
05:32:51PM I WOULD CALL IT SUSPICIOUS.
05:32:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS BEING PROMOTED BY POLITICAL
05:32:56PM OPERATIVES AND POLITICAL AGENDA.
05:32:58PM AND -- I KNOW WHO IS BEHIND IT.
05:33:00PM I AM GOING TO DO SOME PUBLIC RECORDS AND PROVE IT IN THE
05:33:03PM NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
05:33:04PM BUT THE MEANTIME, THIS IS ABOUT REPRESENTING CITY COUNCIL.
05:33:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO END DEBATE.
05:33:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
05:33:12PM CARLSON.
05:33:12PM AND A SECOND --
05:33:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNLESS YOU JUST WANT TO CALL IT.
05:33:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO END THE DEBATE FROM COUNCIL
05:33:20PM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
05:33:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
05:33:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:33:23PM ALL RIGHT.
05:33:24PM WE HAVE A MOTION NOW FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
05:33:26PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
05:33:28PM WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, AND THIS IS TO RECONSIDER THE
05:33:33PM CHAIRMANSHIP.
05:33:34PM AND THEN WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
05:33:35PM OKAY, ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:33:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:33:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
05:33:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:33:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:33:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
05:33:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
05:33:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
05:33:59PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH MIRANDA, HENDERSON AND
05:34:03PM MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
05:34:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MISS FOXX-KNOWLES, DO YOU HAVE TO
05:34:12PM TAKE CONTROL?
05:34:13PM THIS IS FOR CHAIRMAN.
05:34:15PM AND THEN WE WILL FIGURE OUT THE REST.
05:34:17PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: IS THERE A MOTION?
05:34:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION.
05:34:30PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES, SIR.
05:34:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:34:35PM THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER TO PUT COUNCIL ON THE SAME STEAD AS
05:34:39PM IT WAS ON MAY 1.
05:34:40PM AT WHAT TIME, THERE WERE NOMINATIONS MADE.
05:34:44PM AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEN YOU CALLED FOR VOTES ON THE
05:34:48PM NOMINATION IN THE ORDER OF WHICH THEY WERE MADE.
05:34:50PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES, INDEED.
05:34:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO BE IN A
05:34:54PM POSITION -- DO YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE THE NOMINATIONS OR HAVE
05:34:57PM THE NOMINATIONS ANNOUNCED AGAIN AS THEY WERE OR THEY CAME --
05:35:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN MISS SHIRLEY JUST DO HER JOB.
05:35:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM ASKING HER TO DO HER JOB.
05:35:08PM I AM ASKING HER TO DO IT.
05:35:10PM RATHER THAN CALL FOR A VOTE, TO PUT IT IN THE SAME STEAD AS
05:35:14PM IT WAS ON MAY 1.
05:35:15PM THAT IS MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS.
05:35:19PM WHAT I AM SAYING, DO YOU WANT TOO TAKE NOMINATIONS AND DO IT
05:35:24PM AS DID YOU ON MAY 1 OR HAVE THE NOMINATIONS BEEN AS IT IS
05:35:27PM AND HAVE MISS FOXX-K NOWLES TAKE THE VOTES.
05:35:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: POINT OF INFORMATION, THE CHAIR -- PRO
05:35:38PM TEM, THAT WILL OFFICIALLY MAKE IT CHAIR.
05:35:40PM IF THERE WAS A ELECTION THAT I WAS A PART OF RELINQUISH THAT
05:35:46PM TO THE CLERK BASED ON THIS DISCRETION.
05:35:48PM WOULDN'T I BE CALLING THIS AND HAND IT OVER TO THE CLERK.
05:35:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY RECOMMENDATION IS, WHEN A CHAIR IS MADE,
05:35:57PM NOBODY ON CITY COUNCIL PARTICIPATES.
05:36:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOWEVER SHE WANTS.
05:36:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET HER JUST DO HER JOB.
05:36:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A PROCESS SHE HAS DONE TRADITIONALLY, AND I
05:36:11PM AM ASKING THAT THAT PROCESS BE FOLLOWED.
05:36:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S GO.
05:36:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GO AHEAD, MISS SHIRLEY.
05:36:17PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
05:36:21PM IS THERE A -- I AM ASKING FOR NOMINATIONS.
05:36:25PM AND IT IS FOR THE FIRST NAME NOMINATED.
05:36:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I NOMINATE CHAIR MANISCALCO TO RETAIN HIS
05:36:32PM POSITION.
05:36:32PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: MANISCALCO HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
05:36:38PM ANOTHER NOMINATION?
05:36:39PM YES, SIR.
05:36:39PM CLENDENIN.
05:36:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALAN CLENDENIN.
05:36:45PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN HAS BEEN
05:36:51PM NOMINATED.
05:36:52PM IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
05:36:55PM WE WILL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS ON MANISCALCO AND CLENDENIN.
05:36:59PM ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. MANISCALCO, RAISE YOUR HAND.
05:37:03PM OKAY.
05:37:07PM ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. CLENDENIN, RAISE YOUR HAND.
05:37:11PM MR. CLENDENIN HAS BEEN NOMINATED OR ELECTED.
05:37:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE HAS BEEN SELECTED, YEAH.
05:37:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW A VACANCY IN THE PRO TEM POSITION.
05:37:29PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONDUCT THAT ONE AS WELL?
05:37:32PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES.
05:37:33PM IS THERE A NOMINATION FOR CHAIR PRO TEM?
05:37:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
05:37:41PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES, SIR.
05:37:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:37:46PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: MISS HENDERSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
05:37:51PM IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
05:37:53PM YES, SIR?
05:37:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
05:37:57PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
05:38:01PM IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
05:38:05PM OKAY.
05:38:05PM WE WILL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS ON --
05:38:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: VICE-CHAIR.
05:38:19PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES, THE VICE-CHAIR.
05:38:21PM ALL IN FAVOR OF MISS HENDERSON -- OKAY.
05:38:31PM ALL RIGHT.
05:38:32PM REQUIRES FOUR VOTES.
05:38:35PM CONGRATULATIONS.
05:38:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
05:38:42PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: ALL RIGHT.
05:38:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
05:38:46PM THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
05:38:49PM OKAY.
05:38:52PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
05:38:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE A SECTION COMING UP, A PRESENTATION
05:39:00PM -- A PRESENTATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:39:03PM IT'S -- THE PRESENTATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:39:05PM WE HAVE GOT TO GO LINE BY LINE TO REVIEW WHAT THEY PROPOSE
05:39:09PM AND EDIT IT.
05:39:10PM I HAVE GOTTEN HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS FROM ACROSS THE CITY AND
05:39:13PM SOUTH TAMPA WHICH YOU PROBABLY HAVE AS WELL.
05:39:15PM I SENT A MEMO A DAY OR TWO AGO SUGGESTING A SPECIAL CALLED
05:39:21PM WORKSHOP MAYBE IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER.
05:39:23PM WOULD YOU ALL BE OPEN TO A SPECIALLY CALLED WORKSHOP?
05:39:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CARLSON, DID YOU SAY WHEN IT WILL BE
05:39:38PM COMING TO CITY COUNCIL?
05:39:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COMING NEXT WEEK.
05:39:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COMING NEXT WEEK.
05:39:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: NEXT WEEK WE WILL HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN
05:39:44PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:39:45PM IF WE SET UP A SPECIALLY CALLED WORKSHOP.
05:39:48PM PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN COME AND HELP US EDIT IT.
05:39:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING AND COMING BACK
05:39:56PM AND YOU ARE ASKING FOR A SPECIAL CALLED DURING THAT TIME?
05:40:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 25.
05:40:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAS TO BE A NIGHT MEETING.
05:40:04PM IF IT IS NOT A NIGHT MEETING, WE ARE STILL GOING TO GET
05:40:08PM COMPLAINTS.
05:40:08PM WE NEED TO ADD A NIGHT MEETING.
05:40:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OCTOBER 9.
05:40:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS LATE.
05:40:14PM WAY TOO LATE.
05:40:15PM WE DON'T WANT --
05:40:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PRESENT.
05:40:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUDGET ON YOUR CALENDAR.
05:40:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SEPTEMBER 18 LOOKS GOOD TO ME.
05:40:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT AUGUST 28.
05:40:28PM WE DON'T ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THE AGENDA.
05:40:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AUGUST 28, YOU SAID?
05:40:37PM I LIKE AUGUST 28.
05:40:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AUGUST 28, WE THERE IS VERY LITTLE ON AND SAY
05:40:44PM NO MORE ON.
05:40:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPECIALLY CALLED -- COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
05:40:48PM A SPECIALLY CALLED WORKSHOP AUGUST 28, 5:01 AND CLOSE THE
05:40:53PM DAY AGENDA AS IT CURRENTLY SITS.
05:40:56PM IS THERE A SECOND?
05:40:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS IT FOR?
05:41:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SPECIALLY CALLED MEETING FOR THE PLANNING
05:41:03PM COMMISSION.
05:41:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT WE WANTED AN ALL DAY ONE.
05:41:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE PROBLEM WITH ALL DAY, THE PUBLIC WHO ARE
05:41:11PM UPSET WON'T.
05:41:13PM THE FACT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT AND TREAT IT LIKE A
05:41:18PM WORKSHOP AND DO IT IN THE EVENING TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC.
05:41:20PM I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN ITS ROAD --
05:41:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION BY MR. CARLSON AUGUST 28 FOR
05:41:28PM SPECIALLY CALLED AT 5:01 P.M. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY?
05:41:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU SAY PLANNING COMMISSION, MORE
05:41:36PM SPECIFICALLY.
05:41:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 24-04.
05:41:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT SHE SAID.
05:41:42PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
05:41:44PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:41:46PM OPPOSED?
05:41:47PM IT IS SET.
05:41:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO, THOUGH, WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY ON THE
05:41:50PM RECORD THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WROTE US AN E-MAIL THAT
05:41:53PM VERY CLEARLY STATES -- I JUST HAVE TO PUT THIS ON THE
05:41:56PM RECORD.
05:41:57PM THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS BEEN ENGAGING WITH
05:42:00PM THE COMMUNITY SINCE 2022 ON THIS AMENDMENT, HOLDING AND
05:42:03PM ATTENDING APPROXIMATELY 30 COMMUNITY MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE
05:42:07PM CITY.
05:42:07PM I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THESE.
05:42:08PM I HAVE LISTENED TO SOME OF THEM.
05:42:11PM I JUST WANT TO SAY WE HAVE HAD AMPLE -- THERE HAS BEEN
05:42:16PM PLENTY OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
05:42:19PM I DO WANT TO GET MORE PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I WANT PEOPLE TO
05:42:23PM KNOW THAT THERE IS STUFF OUT THERE.
05:42:25PM IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE THINGS
05:42:29PM ON THEIR WEB SITE.
05:42:30PM MAYBE ALL OF US --
05:42:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND YOUTUBE.
05:42:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND YOUTUBE.
05:42:35PM MAYBE WE NEED TO PUSH THIS OUT AS A CITY FOR OUR LAND
05:42:40PM DEVELOPMENT GROUP PUSH THAT INFORMATION OUT SO THE PUBLIC
05:42:42PM COMES IN KNOWLEDGEABLE.
05:42:43PM I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALL LISTEN TO THEM IF YOU
05:42:47PM HAVEN'T.
05:42:47PM THEY ARE VERY GOOD.
05:42:48PM YOU ACTUALLY LISTENED TO THE ENTIRE MEETING MONDAY NIGHT.
5:42:51PM IT WAS VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE AND ENLIGHTENING.
5:42:52PM YEAH, YEAH.
5:42:54PM THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE THAT REALLY WANT TO BE CITY COUNCIL
5:42:56PM MEMBERS.
5:42:57PM IT'S REALLY FUNNY THE GREEN ENVY IS SO THERE.
5:43:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. KNOWLES, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR
5:43:05PM US?
5:43:06PM >> YES, I DID NOT ASK IF YOU WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS, TO
5:43:10PM THE CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR.
5:43:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL TAKE THAT MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE.
5:43:13PM ONE, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:43:17PM HIM AND I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS FOR MANY YEARS.
5:43:19PM SIT DOWN AND HAVE A COCKTAIL AND ABOUT THE THINGS GONE BY.
5:43:25PM I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING.
5:43:26PM HOPEFULLY ASK FOR GRACE AS THE LEARNING CURVE GOING INTO
5:43:32PM THIS.
5:43:32PM I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST MOVING MEETINGS ALONG.
5:43:36PM DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CHAIR THAN MANISCALCO.
5:43:38PM HE IS THE NICER ONES SOMETIMES AND MAYBE I'M NOT.
5:43:41PM HE GIVES PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE GRACE THAN I DO OFTEN.
5:43:45PM BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CHALLENGE.
5:43:49PM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CHANGE.
5:43:51PM HOPEFULLY I WON'T DISAPPOINT.
5:43:52PM IF YOU DO, PLEASE BRING IT TO MY ATTENTION.
5:43:55PM I'LL TRY TO IMPROVE.
5:43:56PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS?
5:44:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE LAST THING, JUST FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE
5:44:09PM I KNOW SOMEBODY WILL PUSH THIS, I'M ON A LOT OF BOARDS.
5:44:14PM I DON'T WANT TO BE ON ANY BOARDS, MR. CHAIR.
5:44:17PM THE COMMITTEES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE, ARE JUST
5:44:19PM CEREMONIAL.
5:44:20PM WE'RE NOT LIKE ST. PETE WHERE WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH
5:44:22PM COMMITTEES.
5:44:22PM THE COMMITTEES ARE JUST PASSING THE CONSENT AGENDA.
5:44:27PM SO I HAVE TO BE ON ONE OF THOSE.
5:44:29PM I DON'T CARE WHICH ONE IT IS.
5:44:30PM I'M JUST OFFICIALLY NOT ASKING YOU FOR ANYTHING.
5:44:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S NOT TRUE.
5:44:36PM I HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING TOMORROW AND I WAS APPOINTED
5:44:38PM TO THAT POSITION.
5:44:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, I SAID WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE.
5:44:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE NOTHING.
5:44:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:44:53PM >> OKAY THEN.
5:44:53PM [ LAUGHTER ]
5:44:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A.I. HAS GOT YOU.
5:44:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK TODAY SETS A VERY BAD PRECEDENT.
5:45:00PM AS YOU SEE, I DON'T GET ANGRY.
5:45:01PM I'M NOT VENGEFUL, I DON'T MAKE THREATS, UNLIKE OTHER PEOPLE.
5:45:05PM I DO WISH CONGRATULATIONS.
5:45:07PM CLENDENIN AND I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS ABOUT 15 YEARS.
5:45:11PM OF COURSE, I WISH HIM THE BEST.
5:45:12PM THIS IS A VERY BAD LOOK FOR THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I CARE
5:45:18PM ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND I WANT US ALL TO
5:45:20PM SUCCEED.
5:45:20PM BUT WHAT HAPPENED TODAY DOES SET A BAD PRECEDENT AND IT DOES
5:45:26PM MAKE US LOOK BAD.
5:45:27PM I LOOK FORWARD TO THE HEADLINES.
5:45:29PM AGAIN, THERE IS A REPORTER IN THE ROOM, BUT THIS IS STRICTLY
5:45:34PM -- IT'S NOT PUNISHMENT.
5:45:36PM IT'S REVENGE.
5:45:37PM I DIDN'T COME HERE FOR REVENGE.
5:45:38PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:45:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
5:45:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. SHIRLEY, THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR JOB
5:45:44PM SO ELOQUENTLY.
5:45:45PM I WAS NOMINATED AND I LEARNED FROM MY MENTOR WHEN YOU ARE
5:45:50PM NOMINATED TO JUST ACCEPT THE OPPORTUNITY.
5:45:52PM IT WAS A GREAT SURPRISE TO ME.
5:45:54PM ALL I GOT TO SAY IS, MR. CLENDENIN, YOU NEED TO COME TO WORK
5:45:58PM EVERY THURSDAY ON THAT SO I DON'T HAVE TO BE PRO TEM ON A
5:46:02PM REGULAR BASIS.
5:46:03PM ALSO, I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF.
5:46:11PM I DROVE DOWN MARION STREET TODAY, AND ALL OF THE BENCHES ARE
5:46:14PM BACK IN PLACE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HART BUS STATION.
5:46:17PM THAT WAS DONE REALLY QUICKLY.
5:46:20PM WE DIDN'T HAVE TO MOVE A MOUNTAIN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
5:46:23PM IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE REPURPOSED.
5:46:26PM I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR GETTING THAT DONE.
5:46:31PM I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
5:46:32PM IT IS AN AREA WHERE THE UNHOUSED ARE ALSO, ONE OF THEIR
5:46:37PM HANGOUT SPOTS, BUT THEY ARE STILL OUR CITIZENS AND DESERVE
5:46:43PM TO BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY.
5:46:44PM IF THEY WANT TO SIT ON A BENCH, THEY CAN SIT ON A BENCH.
5:46:47PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
5:46:48PM I'VE BEEN GIVEN SOME MOTIONS.
5:46:50PM I GUESS I SHOULD DO ALL OF THESE.
5:46:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE THE CHAIR DOESN'T MAKE MOTIONS,
5:46:55PM PRO TEM, PLANNING COMMISSION WILL SUPPLY THOSE TO YOU
5:46:58PM USUALLY THE DAY OF, TO YOUR AIDE, AND THEN YOU READ THEM
5:47:02PM INTO THE RECORD.
5:47:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE FOR.
5:47:04PM MOTION ONE, A MOTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO
5:47:06PM RESCHEDULE THE ADOPTION HEARING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA FY
5:47:11PM '2026 THROUGH 2030 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SECTION SCHEDULE OF
5:47:16PM PROJECTS UPDATE TO OCTOBER 30th AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT
5:47:20PM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM
5:47:23PM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:47:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
5:47:29PM HENDERSON.
5:47:30PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:47:31PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
5:47:33PM OPPOSED?
5:47:33PM AYES HAVE IT.
5:47:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION TWO, MOTION BY THE PLANNING
5:47:36PM COMMISSION TO RESCHEDULE THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR TA/CPA
5:47:40PM 25-04 AND TA/CPA 25-06 TO OCTOBER 30, 2025, AT 5:01 P.M. AND
5:47:48PM DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH
5:47:51PM THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:47:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
5:47:55PM HENDERSON.
5:47:55PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:47:57PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
5:47:59PM OPPOSED?
5:47:59PM AYES HAVE IT.
5:48:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A MOTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO
5:48:02PM RESCHEDULE THE ADOPTION HEARING OF TA/CPA 25-09 TO OCTOBER
5:48:08PM 30th, 2025, AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
5:48:13PM TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR
5:48:16PM ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
5:48:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
5:48:19PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:48:22PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
5:48:24PM OPPOSED?
5:48:24PM AYES HAVE IT.
5:48:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE ARE TWO MORE, ACTUALLY.
5:48:27PM NOT FOUR.
5:48:28PM A MOTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REMOVE TA/CPA 25-13
5:48:32PM FROM THE ADOPTION HEARING ON OCTOBER 23rd, 2025, AT
5:48:36PM 5:01 P.M.
5:48:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
5:48:40PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:48:41PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
5:48:43PM OPPOSED?
5:48:43PM AYES HAVE IT.
5:48:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE LAST ONE, CHAIR, A MOTION BY THE
5:48:47PM PLANNING COMMISSION TO REMOVE TA/CPA 24-18 FROM THE ADOPTION
5:48:51PM HEARING ON JULY 31st, 2025, AT 5:01 P.M.
5:48:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
5:48:58PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:48:59PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE?
5:49:00PM OPPOSED?
5:49:00PM AYES HAVE IT.
5:49:02PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:49:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:49:05PM MS. SCHARFE, FILE TA/CPA 24-04, WHICH WE ADDED FOR THE
5:49:12PM WORKSHOP, WE NEED TO TAKE IT OFF OF NEXT -- OR OF THE MAY
5:49:17PM 22nd EVENING SESSION.
5:49:19PM THAT WAS 25-04.
5:49:24PM I LISTENED BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, NO, THIS IS 24-04.
5:49:30PM THIS IS THE THING WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, THE
5:49:33PM TRANSMITTAL HEARING.
5:49:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT CAME FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
5:49:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE JUST MOVED IT.
5:49:38PM I MOVED IT WHEN IT WAS MY TURN.
5:49:42PM WE ADDED IT TO A WORKSHOP OR A NIGHT MEETING.
5:49:45PM WE CREATED A NIGHT MEETING.
5:49:47PM WHAT I'M DOING NOW IS I AM TAKING IT OUT OF THE EVENING
5:49:51PM SESSION.
5:49:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
5:49:56PM MOVING THAT -- REMOVING THAT ITEM FROM THE AGENDA ON MAY 22
5:50:02PM AT 5:01 P.M.
5:50:03PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
5:50:05PM OPPOSED?
5:50:05PM THAT WAS A SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
5:50:07PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU HAVE AN ITEM?
5:50:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA, DID YOU CANCEL THE THING FOR
5:50:14PM TONIGHT?
5:50:14PM NO, NO DON'T CANCEL.
5:50:17PM I'LL GO.
5:50:18PM I THOUGHT WE WOULD GET OUT LATER.
5:50:20PM MOTION FOR IN-PERSON COMMENDATION ON JUNE 26 TO RECOGNIZE
5:50:23PM THE FOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATES FOR THEIR
5:50:25PM YEARS OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE.
5:50:27PM THEIR NAMES ARE PAUL ERNI, 29 YEARS; LAURA WARE, 21 YEARS;
5:50:31PM RICHARD REAVIS, 17 YEARS; ALEX DUNMIRE, 14 YEARS.
5:50:35PM THE CITY IS NO LONGER UTILIZING THE VOLUNTEERS AND HIRED A
5:50:38PM LAW FIRM TO HANDLE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE DUTIES.
5:50:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:50:43PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:50:44PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
5:50:46PM AYES HAVE IT.
5:50:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A FIVE
5:50:50PM MINUTE PRESENTATION ON JUNE 26 TO RECOGNIZE NATALIE
5:50:53PM HERNANDEZ, THIRD PLACE WINNER IN THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF
5:50:55PM MAYORS AND CITY IF I WERE ELECTED MAYOR ESSAY CONTEST.
5:51:00PM SHE PLACED THIRD OUT OF 1900 SUBMISSIONS.
5:51:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
5:51:06PM OPPOSED, NAY.
5:51:08PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
5:51:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAN OF FEW WORDS.
5:51:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION TO RECEIVED AND FILE.
5:51:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND BY MIRANDA.
5:51:17PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
5:51:18PM AYE.
5:51:19PM MOTION PASSES.
5:51:20PM GOOD NIGHT, EVERYBODY.
5:51:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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