TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOPS
THURSDAY, MAY 22, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:02:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CALL THIS COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
9:02:05AM INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:02:07AM A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
9:02:10AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:02:27AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:02:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:02:39AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:02:40AM CAN I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:02:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:02:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:02:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:02:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:02:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:02:50AM OKAY.
9:02:51AM I NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 8 FROM THE AGENDA.
9:02:55AM THAT'S MOVED TO SEPTEMBER 25 ABOUT DIGITAL SIGNS.
9:02:59AM >> SO MOVED.
9:03:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:03:00AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:03:02AM >> AYE.
9:03:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO SET ON THE
9:03:05AM AGENDA?
9:03:07AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:03:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE NEED TO SAY THAT COUNCILMAN OR THE
9:03:18AM CHAIR IS OUT.
9:03:19AM OKAY.
9:03:20AM SORRY.
9:03:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
9:03:24AM CAN I MOVE TO ADOPT THE AGENDA FOR THE WORKSHOP?
9:03:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
9:03:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:03:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 2, 3, AND 4 ARE SIMILAR, SO THEY PROBABLY
9:03:37AM MOST LIKELY WILL BE HEARD ALTOGETHER.
9:03:41AM OKAY.
9:03:42AM JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
9:03:43AM BUT I DO BELIEVE PEOPLE MAY WANT TO STILL COMMENT AFTER EACH
9:03:49AM ITEM.
9:03:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CORRECT.
9:03:50AM THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO COME AFTER EACH ITEM.
9:03:52AM TWO TEACHERS SIDE BY SIDE IS NOT GOING TO WORK.
9:03:56AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:03:56AM SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA FOR THE WORKSHOP.
9:04:05AM COUNCILMAN VIERA IS PRESENT.
9:04:07AM OUR CHAIR IS OUT TODAY.
9:04:10AM I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DUTY AS THE PRO TEM.
9:04:13AM AND IT IS MY HONOR.
9:04:15AM BE PATIENT.
9:04:17AM DID WE DO THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA FOR THE WORKSHOP?
9:04:21AM I DID.
9:04:27AM I NEED THE VOTE FOR IT.
9:04:29AM DID HAVE A SECOND.
9:04:30AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:04:31AM >> AYE.
9:04:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:04:32AM LET'S GET THIS WORKSHOP PARTY STARTED.
9:04:34AM NUMBER 1 ON THE AGENDA, ATTORNEY SHELBY, WE HAVE RULES WHERE
9:04:43AM THEY CAN SPEAK ON EACH ITEM.
9:04:45AM DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THAT FOR EVERYONE?
9:04:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, PLEASE.
9:04:48AM THANK YOU.
9:04:48AM GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MARTIN
9:04:51AM SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:04:52AM WITH REGARD TO THIS WORKSHOP MEETING, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
9:04:55AM HAVE A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL
9:04:59AM TAKES ANY OFFICIAL ACTION.
9:05:02AM FOR A WORKSHOP, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TAKES PLACE AT THE
9:05:05AM END OF THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL, AND YOU
9:05:10AM WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
9:05:12AM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK FOR THE WORKSHOP ITEMS, THERE IS AN
9:05:15AM iPAD OUTSIDE, A KIOSK, AND WE ASK THAT YOU SIGN IN OVER
9:05:19AM THERE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
9:05:21AM PLEASE NOTE THE NUMBER ON THE AGENDA.
9:05:23AM NOW, PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT SPEAKERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM
9:05:28AM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING
9:05:30AM REMARKS.
9:05:31AM PLEASE, SPEAKERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING PERSONAL
9:05:35AM ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBER OF
9:05:38AM THE PUBLIC.
9:05:39AM COMMENTS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY AND NOT
9:05:41AM TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:05:42AM AND NO ONE PRESENT DURING A COUNCIL MEETING SHALL ENGAGE IN
9:05:45AM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING INTENTIONALLY MAKING OR
9:05:48AM CAUSING TO BE MADE ANY DISRUPTIVE SOUND OR NOISE OR
9:05:51AM DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS IN A MANNER DISRUPTIVE TO THE
9:05:56AM PROCEEDING.
9:05:56AM THE CHAIR SHALL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC
9:06:00AM WHO SPEAKS WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED AND NO PERSON SHALL
9:06:03AM APPROACH THE DAIS DURING MEETINGS EXCEPT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND
9:06:06AM EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY UNLESS INVITED BY A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
9:06:09AM PLEASE, ALL PERSONS SHALL AT ALL TIMES CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN
9:06:13AM ACCORDANCE WITH COUNCIL RULES.
9:06:15AM PERSONS FAILING TO DO SO SHALL BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND MAY
9:06:17AM BE DIRECTED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR TO BE REMOVED
9:06:19AM FROM THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
9:06:20AM SUCH PERSON SHALL NOT BE READMITTED TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER
9:06:24AM OR CITY HALL DURING THE REMAINDER OF THAT DAY'S MEETING.
9:06:27AM THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
9:06:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:06:30AM MS. VAN LOAN, I BELIEVE YOU ARE UP FIRST WITH ITEM NUMBER 1,
9:06:34AM MULTI-SPORTS FIELD FOR THE LATE ROLAND PAZ SENIOR.
9:06:38AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS
9:06:42AM OF CITY COUNCIL.
9:06:42AM MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
9:06:46AM I AM HERE FOR PRESENTATION ON A MOTION TO NAME THE
9:06:50AM MULTIPURPOSE FIELD AT THE FOREST HILLS RECREATION COMPLEX
9:06:53AM AFTER ROLAND PAZ SENIOR.
9:06:56AM IF WE CAN HAVE THE PowerPoint.
9:07:00AM SO ROLAND PAZ WAS BORN IN SPAIN.
9:07:04AM WHILE HE WAS THERE, HE PLAYED FIRST DIVISION SOCCER AS A
9:07:08AM YOUNG MAN.
9:07:08AM HE CAME TO THE UNITED STATES.
9:07:10AM HE DID OBTAIN CITIZENSHIP AND EVENTUALLY OWNED HIS OWN
9:07:14AM SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS, ROLAND'S TV AND ELECTRONICS.
9:07:17AM THE PAZ FAMILY WAS THE SECOND HOME IN THEIR BLOCK IN 1955 ON
9:07:22AM NORTH OTIS AVENUE.
9:07:23AM THE PAZ FAMILY OF SIX WERE REGULARS AT THE FOREST HILLS
9:07:26AM RECREATION CENTER AND PRODUCTS OF THE FOREST HILLS
9:07:29AM COMMUNITY.
9:07:30AM MR. PAZ WAS FREQUENTLY SEEN AT THE RECREATION CENTER PLAYING
9:07:35AM GUITAR, ATTENDING MEETINGS, AND PLAYING PING-PONG.
9:07:38AM MR. PAZ REALLY APPRECIATED THE VALUE OF THE FOREST HILLS
9:07:41AM RECREATION CENTER TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT IT MEANT TO THE
9:07:44AM COMMUNITY AT-LARGE.
9:07:46AM DUE TO HIS PASSION FOR SOCCER, HE STARTED THE FOREST HILLS
9:07:49AM YOUTH SOCCER LEAGUE IN 1973 AND MADE THE FOREST HILLS
9:07:52AM RECREATION CENTER FIELD ITS HOME.
9:07:54AM THE FOREST HILLS YOUTH SOCCER LEAGUE WAS A LARGE LEAGUE AND
9:07:57AM SERVED YOUTH OF ALL AGES.
9:07:59AM MR. PAZ COACHED HIS OWN TEAM.
9:08:02AM THE FOREST HILLS HURRICANES AND POSITIVELY INFLUENCED MANY
9:08:06AM YOUNG LIVES.
9:08:07AM ONE OF THOSE YOUNG PLAYERS NOW COACHES THREE TEAMS FOR THAT
9:08:11AM LEAGUE.
9:08:12AM MR. PAZ INSTILLED A PASSION FOR THE SPORT IN HIS PLAYERS AND
9:08:16AM MORE IMPORTANTLY SET AN EXAMPLE FOR GIVING BACK TO HIS
9:08:20AM COMMUNITY.
9:08:20AM AT THAT TIME, THE FOREST HILLS RECREATION CENTER FIELD WAS
9:08:23AM NOTHING BUT SAND, WEEDS, SAND SPURS AND PALMETTO BUSHES.
9:08:26AM MR. PAZ LOBBIED AND MET WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA THEN MAYOR
9:08:29AM GRECO ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS ASKING TO TRANSFORM THE FIELD
9:08:33AM INTO A MULTIPURPOSE SPORTS FIELD.
9:08:35AM BUT DUE TO LIMITED FUNDING OVER THE YEARS, OTHER AMENITIES
9:08:39AM WERE SLOWLY ADDED TO THE COMPLEX BUT THE FIELD ITSELF
9:08:42AM REMAINED UNDEVELOPED FOR A LONG TIME.
9:08:44AM MR. PAZ WAS SO DETERMINED TO TRY AND PROVIDE A PROPER SPORTS
9:08:48AM FIELD THAT HE RALLIED SOCCER TEAM MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY
9:08:50AM TO COME OUT AND TRY AND IMPROVE THE FIELD THEMSELVES.
9:08:53AM IN 1975, CLOSE TO 100 PEOPLE SHOWED UP ON A SATURDAY
9:08:57AM BRINGING THEIR OWN RAKES, SHOVELS, AND HAND TILLERS TRYING
9:09:01AM TO LEVEL OUT THE FIELD AND MAKE IT USABLE.
9:09:04AM THEY ALL WORKED VERY HARD THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND FINALLY
9:09:06AM REALIZED THE TASK WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO BIG EVEN FOR THEIR
9:09:09AM BIG HEARTS.
9:09:10AM MR. PAZ NEVER GAVE UP HOPE AND CONTINUED TO LOBBY THE CITY
9:09:14AM TO MAKE THE FIELD A TRUE SPORTS FIELD.
9:09:16AM THE FOREST HILLS SOCCER LEAGUE CONTINUED TO THRIVE AND GROW,
9:09:19AM BUT BEFORE THE SPORTS FIELD COULD BECOME A REALITY, MR. PAZ
9:09:23AM CONTRACTED LUNG CANCER AND QUICKLY SUCCUMBED.
9:09:27AM BEFORE HIS PASSING, THE FOREST HILLS COMMUNITY RALLIED
9:09:30AM TOGETHER AND SUPPORTED THE FAMILY DURING THAT DIFFICULT
9:09:32AM TIME.
9:09:32AM THE TAMPA ROWDIES PROVIDED MRS. PAZ A SOCCER BALL SIGNED BY
9:09:37AM THE ENTIRE TEAM AND ALSO SIGNED BY THE LEGENDARY SOCCER
9:09:41AM PLAYER PALEY IN HONOR OF MR. PAZ'S EFFORTS FOR YOUTH SOCCER
9:09:46AM AND THE COMMUNITY.
9:09:47AM THE FOREST HILLS COMMUNITY CREDITS MR. PAZ AND ALL HIS
9:09:50AM EFFORTS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD AT THE
9:09:53AM FOREST HILLS COMPLEX.
9:09:54AM 48 YEARS LATER, IF HE COULD SEE THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE
9:09:58AM FIELD NOW, HE WOULD BE SO PROUD.
9:09:59AM PER OUR DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS, THE PARKS AND REC HAS
9:10:07AM REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND ALL THE DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED.
9:10:13AM THESE ARE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED BACK IN THE '70s.
9:10:16AM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT HAS RECOMMENDED A COMMEMORATIVE
9:10:19AM MARKER THAT DETAILS HIS EFFORTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE
9:10:23AM COMMUNITY.
9:10:24AM THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION IS UP TO CITY COUNCIL AND AT YOUR
9:10:29AM DISCRETION.
9:10:30AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
9:10:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN COUNCILMAN
9:10:35AM MANISCALCO.
9:10:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:37AM MS. VAN LOAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
9:10:40AM WE HAVE HERE OFFICER ROY PAZ THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM,
9:10:44AM IF I MAY, WHENEVER IS APPROPRIATE.
9:10:46AM MS. VAN LOAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR DETAILED
9:10:49AM PRESENTATION.
9:10:50AM YOU'RE ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH ON THESE TYPES OF
9:10:53AM ISSUES AND EVERYTHING.
9:10:55AM SO THE SUGGESTION, THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE MARKER.
9:11:01AM I'M MAKING A MOTION AND I'LL EXPLAIN IT AND OFFICER PAZ IS
9:11:06AM ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT, TO RENAME THAT RECREATION
9:11:09AM FIELD AFTER THE LATE ROLAND PAZ AS WELL AS THE MARKER.
9:11:14AM THERE'S STRONG COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THIS MOVE.
9:11:20AM I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PARK'S POSITION IS THAT THERE WAS IN
9:11:23AM THE 1970s VERY LITTLE DOCUMENTATION FOR CERTAIN THINGS
9:11:28AM HAPPENING.
9:11:28AM SO THEY HAVE TO GO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.
9:11:30AM WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD
9:11:33AM ASSOCIATION.
9:11:34AM I'VE SPOKEN TO THE FOLKS OUT THERE.
9:11:36AM THERE IS STRONG UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY OUT
9:11:41AM THERE.
9:11:41AM WE HAVE OUT HERE ONE OF THE BEST GUYS I KNOW, OFFICER ROY
9:11:45AM PAZ, ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE.
9:11:47AM HE IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD GUY.
9:11:49AM SERVED TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR OVER THREE DECADES,
9:11:53AM RECENTLY RETIRED.
9:11:54AM IS A MILITARY VETERAN.
9:11:56AM JUST A REALLY, REALLY GOOD GUY.
9:11:58AM HIS FATHER WAS A TRUE COMMUNITY LEGEND IN FOREST HILLS.
9:12:01AM A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE KNOW HIM, LIKE MICHELLE SAID
9:12:05AM CORRECTLY, IT WAS HIS IDEA TO MAKE THIS MULTIPURPOSE FIELD A
9:12:11AM MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.
9:12:12AM EARLY ON IN THE EARLY DAYS, IF YOU LISTEN TO FOLKS WITH
9:12:14AM THEIR STORIES OUT THERE, IN THE EARLY SOCCER LEAGUE, THEY
9:12:17AM DID WITH WHAT THEY HAD.
9:12:19AM AND THEY WOULD USE TIRES.
9:12:22AM THEY WOULD USE PIPES FOR THE GOALS.
9:12:25AM THEY DID WITH WHAT THEY HAD.
9:12:27AM THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF MUSCLE BUT THEY HAD A WHOLE LOT OF
9:12:30AM HEART.
9:12:30AM THE LATE MR. ROLAND PAZ OWNED A TV REPAIR SHOP ON BUSCH
9:12:35AM BOULEVARD.
9:12:36AM A REAL NORTH TAMPA WORKING FAMILY.
9:12:38AM THEY HAD FOUR CHILDREN.
9:12:39AM WHEN OFFICER PAZ WAS TEN YEARS OLD, HIS FATHER PASSED ON.
9:12:43AM I SEE THE KIND OF MAN THAT OFFICER PAZ IS TODAY, AND WE'RE
9:12:52AM ALL PROUD OF HIM.
9:12:53AM WHEN HE DISCLOSED THIS TO ME ABOUT HIS FATHER ABOUT A YEAR
9:12:56AM AGO, I BECAME VERY EMOTIONAL BECAUSE WE WOULD ALL WANT TO
9:13:00AM HAVE KIDS AS DECENT AS OFFICER ROY PAZ IS.
9:13:04AM I BELIEVE THAT HIS FATHER LOOKS DOWN NOW WITH GREAT PRIDE AT
9:13:07AM THE KIND OF MAN THAT HIS SON IS.
9:13:10AM AND TO THINK ABOUT A SON, MANY YEARS AFTER HIS DAD HAS
9:13:13AM PASSED, TO REMIND THE CITY ABOUT THE LEGACY OF WHAT HIS DAD
9:13:20AM DID AND SAY, THAT'S MY DAD, THAT IS A BIG FRICKING DEAL TO
9:13:26AM ME, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO HONOR THAT REQUEST.
9:13:28AM AGAIN, THIS IS A MAN WHO WAS A TRUE COMMUNITY LEADER IN
9:13:31AM FOREST HILLS.
9:13:32AM PEOPLE KNOW HIM, PEOPLE REMEMBER HIM.
9:13:34AM UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM THE FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD
9:13:36AM ASSOCIATION.
9:13:37AM WE HAVE HIS SON HERE TO SUPPORT IT.
9:13:39AM WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM HIM, A MAN WHO WE ALL LOVE.
9:13:42AM A MAN WHO IS A TRUE, NOT JUST A TAMPA HERO, BUT A FOREST
9:13:46AM HILLS HERO.
9:13:47AM HE LIVES FOUR HOMES DOWN FROM THE HOME WHERE HE WAS RAISED
9:13:52AM BY HIS PARENTS.
9:13:53AM WHEN HIS FATHER PASSED ON WHEN HE WAS TEN YEARS OLD, HIS
9:13:56AM MOTHER WOULD RAISE THE FOUR CHILDREN WORKING ODD JOBS,
9:13:59AM TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
9:14:00AM SHE WOULD ULTIMATELY RETIRE FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
9:14:02AM SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
9:14:03AM AGAIN, A WOMAN THAT DID MANY, MANY GOOD THINGS.
9:14:09AM HONOR THIS FAMILY.
9:14:09AM FOREST HILLS LOVES ROLAND PAZ.
9:14:13AM LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN, COUNCIL.
9:14:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DARLENE, CAN YOU GET MR. PAZ ON THE
9:14:19AM SCHEDULE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE.
9:14:21AM NEXT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:14:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROY PAZ IS HERE, NICEST GUY IN TAMPA NOT
9:14:29AM NAMED LUIS VIERA, I'D LIKE TO SAY.
9:14:31AM THE PAZ FAMILY IS WELL KNOWN AND WELL-RESPECTED IN FOREST
9:14:34AM HILLS.
9:14:35AM IT'S AMAZING.
9:14:35AM YOUR FATHER PASSED AWAY MANY YEARS AGO, BUT PEOPLE STILL
9:14:38AM TALK ABOUT HIM BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT THAT HE HAD ON THIS
9:14:41AM COMMUNITY.
9:14:41AM THIS IS SOMETHING LONG OVERDUE AND WELL DESERVED.
9:14:44AM IT'S AN HONOR THAT YOU ARE HERE.
9:14:46AM FAMILIAR FACE TO COUNCIL.
9:14:50AM AGAIN, I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS.
9:14:51AM THANK YOU.
9:14:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:14:53AM WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
9:14:55AM STEPHANIE POYNOR, SANDY SANCHEZ AND YVONNE FERRELLI.
9:15:03AM NOT HERE.
9:15:04AM NO?
9:15:05AM MR. PAZ, ARE YOU PRESENT?
9:15:11AM >> I AM.
9:15:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COME ON UP.
9:15:14AM >> HELLO.
9:15:15AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE NICE WORDS.
9:15:18AM COUNCIL, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
9:15:21AM EVERY TIME I SEE YOU, I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE
9:15:23AM BIG SENDOFF YOU GAVE ME WHEN I RETIRED FROM THE TAMPA POLICE
9:15:27AM DEPARTMENT.
9:15:27AM I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT.
9:15:29AM IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT ME TODAY, AND I'M HUMBLY HERE ON
9:15:32AM BEHALF OF MY FAMILY.
9:15:34AM I HAVE TWO BROTHERS ROLAND, RICHARD AND MY SISTER VICKY.
9:15:38AM WE'RE HERE TO HUMBLY REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER NAMING THE
9:15:41AM FOREST HILLS MULTIPURPOSE FIELD AFTER OUR LATE FATHER.
9:15:44AM OUR DAD WAS SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT THE AREA, ABOUT FOREST
9:15:49AM HILLS, ABOUT THE RECREATION CENTER.
9:15:54AM I DON'T KNOW, MR. MIRANDA MAY REMEMBER TANYA HART.
9:15:58AM SHE ENDED UP BECOMING THE DIRECTOR OF THE FOREST HILLS -- I
9:16:01AM MEAN OF PARKS AND REC.
9:16:03AM BUT SHE STARTED OUT THERE IN FOREST HILLS.
9:16:06AM HER AND MY DAD WERE VERY CLOSE AND HAD REALLY GOOD TIMES
9:16:09AM TOGETHER AT THE REC CENTER AND EVERYTHING.
9:16:11AM MY DAD HAD A VISION FOR THAT FIELD.
9:16:14AM PLAYED FIRST DIVISION SOCCER IN SPAIN.
9:16:17AM HE'S VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT SOCCER.
9:16:19AM HE JUST DIDN'T SEE THE FIELD AS A SOCCER FIELD.
9:16:22AM HE SAW IT AS A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.
9:16:24AM HIS VISION OF THAT FIELD IS WHAT IT IS TODAY.
9:16:27AM WHEN THAT FIELD WAS BUILT -- I MEAN, AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF
9:16:31AM FOREST HILLS AND ALSO MY FAMILY, WE CAN'T THANK YOU ALL
9:16:34AM ENOUGH FOR REFURBISHING THE FOREST HILLS PARK THERE.
9:16:37AM IT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.
9:16:39AM YOU CAN WALK THERE.
9:16:40AM PLAY PICKLEBALL THERE.
9:16:42AM ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
9:16:42AM THE FIELD ITSELF IS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.
9:16:45AM AND IT HAS PEOPLE ON IT EVERY DAY PLAYING SOCCER, PLAYING
9:16:49AM FLAG FOOTBALL.
9:16:50AM IT IS A VIBRANT, MULTIPURPOSE FIELD.
9:16:54AM WHEN WE SEE THAT FIELD, MY FAMILY AND I SEE IT, WE SEE OUR
9:16:58AM DAD, THAT WAS HIS VISION.
9:17:01AM HE RALLIED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SOCCER LEAGUE TO GO OUT
9:17:04AM THERE AND TRY TO DO THAT HIMSELF BECAUSE AT THE TIME THE
9:17:07AM CITY COULD NOT DO THAT.
9:17:09AM IT WAS THE EXACT SAME SPOT OF WHERE THE FIELD IS TODAY.
9:17:13AM IT'S JUST LIKE, WOW, THIS IS JUST AMAZING.
9:17:16AM BUT ANYWAY, I HAD BROUGHT A SOCCER BALL, AND THIS WAS A BALL
9:17:23AM THAT WAS GIVEN TO MY FAMILY WHEN MY DAD GOT SICK AND HE
9:17:27AM PASSED AWAY.
9:17:28AM IT WAS SIGNED BY THE ROWDIES.
9:17:30AM IT'S THANKING HIM FOR HIS SUPPORT.
9:17:34AM HE WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL THAT IT WAS SIGNED BY PALEY HIMSELF.
9:17:39AM I'M HAPPY TO SEND THIS AROUND AND FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT AND
9:17:42AM EVERYTHING, BUT IF MY DAD WOULD HAVE SAW THE SIGNATURE ON
9:17:46AM THERE, HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE FAINTED BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE
9:17:48AM OF HIS FAVORITE PLAYERS.
9:17:50AM BUT, AGAIN, I CAN'T THANK YOU ALL ENOUGH FOR EVEN
9:17:54AM CONSIDERING THIS AND ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY, WE HUMBLY
9:17:58AM REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER NAMING THE FIELD AFTER OUR DAD.
9:18:01AM OUR LAST NAME MEANS PEACE IN SPANISH.
9:18:04AM WHAT A FITTING THING TO BE PEACE FIELD, YOU KNOW, FOR THE
9:18:10AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:18:10AM WE LIKE TO THANK THE FOREST HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
9:18:12AM FOR ALL THEIR SUPPORT WITH THIS AND ALSO PARKS AND REC FOR
9:18:16AM EVERYTHING THEY DID.
9:18:17AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, AHH, I JUST CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR
9:18:21AM YOUR TIME AND EFFORT AND YOUR STAFF.
9:18:22AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:18:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:18:25AM PASTOR WILLIAMS, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE ABOUT
9:18:29AM THE MULTI-SPORTS FIELD?
9:18:32AM YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
9:18:37AM GOOD MORNING.
9:18:39AM MS. BULLOCK, YOU'RE NEXT.
9:18:44AM YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM.
9:18:59AM >> I THINK I GAVE YOU ALL ONE SOME TIME AGO, BUT YOU ALL
9:19:09AM NEVER RESPONDED.
9:19:12AM THIS ONE FROM MY CHURCH.
9:19:16AM IN GOD WE TRUST.
9:19:17AM HE THAT BELIEVE IN THE SON HAS EVER-LASTING LIFE.
9:19:23AM HE THAT BELIEVE NOT IN THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE BUT --
9:19:30AM GOD IS ANGRY -- DEARLY BELOVED.
9:19:34AM AVENGE NOT YOURSELF.
9:19:37AM VENGEANCE IS MINE.
9:19:43AM I WILL --
9:19:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PASTOR WILLIAMS, THIS IS ABOUT THE
9:19:53AM MULTI-SPORTS FIELD.
9:19:55AM IT IS, AMEN.
9:19:55AM >> YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE RESPECT TO GOD?
9:19:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I CAN DO THAT.
9:19:59AM BUT YOU ONLY HAVE A FEW MINUTES.
9:20:01AM THE MULTI-SPORTS FIELD IS THE TOPIC TODAY.
9:20:10AM >> I'LL SIT DOWN.
9:20:12AM YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE RESPECT TO GOD.
9:20:14AM I'M A PREACHER.
9:20:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CAN TAKE YOUR THREE MINUTES.
9:20:17AM NOTHING ABOUT THE MULTI-SPORTS COMPLEX ON THE RECORD.
9:20:19AM MS. BULLOCK.
9:20:20AM FOLLOWED BY MR. MICHELINI.
9:20:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:20:27AM VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON AT COLLEGE HILL.
9:20:31AM CONGRATULATIONS, MR. PAZ, ON GETTING THE FIELD NAMED AFTER
9:20:35AM YOUR FATHER.
9:20:36AM THAT'S AN HONOR.
9:20:36AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT FAIR OAKS AGAIN.
9:20:42AM WE WANT THE NAME AFTER ARTIS GAMBRELL AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
9:20:47AM IT SEEMS TO BE DIFFERENT PROCESSES FOR DIFFERENT PARKS AND
9:20:49AM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
9:20:50AM AND THE CITY OF TAMPA NEED TO WORK ON TRANSPARENCY AND
9:20:55AM INTEGRITY SO THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE
9:21:01AM PUSHED TO THE SIDE WHERE OTHERS IS A SMOOTH PROCESS.
9:21:05AM THANK YOU.
9:21:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MS. BULLOCK.
9:21:08AM MR. MICHELINI?
9:21:08AM NOTHING.
9:21:09AM OKAY.
9:21:09AM YVONNE FERRELLI.
9:21:14AM YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING?
9:21:17AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:21:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MENTESNOT.
9:21:34AM >> UHURU. MENTESNOT.
9:21:37AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
9:21:40AM WE SAY WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT
9:21:40AM OUR FREEDOM.
9:21:40AM WHAT WE SEE IS, AS LIFE GOES ON, WE SEE TIME AND ENERGY
9:21:44AM RESOURCES EXPENDED ON THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH
9:21:49AM THE EMANCIPATION, THE FREEDOM, THE INDEPENDENCE, THE
9:21:54AM SELF-DETERMINATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE.
9:21:58AM WE SEE STUFF LIKE TALKING ABOUT FIELDS AND PARKS AND
9:22:01AM RECREATION AND OTHER STUFF AND BRIDGES AND LIGHTS ON THE
9:22:07AM BRIDGES AND RIVERWALKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
9:22:10AM BUT WE'RE 26% OF THIS POPULATION AND WE DEMAND 26% OF THIS
9:22:18AM CITY BUDGET.
9:22:19AM WE DON'T WANT THE NONSENSE ABOUT FIELDS AND PARKS AND
9:22:22AM RECREATION CENTERS AND WHAT YOU DO.
9:22:25AM IT'S ALL HONORABLE AND IT'S ALL GOOD, BUT AS GOOD AS PETTY
9:22:30AM STUFF.
9:22:30AM IT'S PETTY IN COMPARISON TO WHAT AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
9:22:35AM NEEDING AND WANTING OUR NECESSITIES FOR THE LAST 825 YEARS
9:22:38AM UNDER THE OCCUPATION OF A VARIETY OF EMPIRES, ORGANIZATIONS,
9:22:44AM AND INDIVIDUALS.
9:22:45AM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FIELDS, TALK ABOUT MR. ARTIS GAMBRELL
9:22:50AM AND FAIR OAKS AND WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT DONE.
9:22:53AM LOTS OF PEOPLE CAME TO SUPPORT THAT.
9:22:55AM IT'S NOT DONE.
9:22:55AM IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.
9:22:58AM INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT FIELDS, THOUGH, WE NEED TO TALK
9:23:00AM ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT, THAT IS A GENOCIDE PROGRAM.
9:23:04AM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
9:23:06AM WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE VOTE AND HOW IT WORKS.
9:23:10AM WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY SCANDALIZE INDIVIDUALS.
9:23:17AM ONE THING AFRICAN PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, TALKING ABOUT FIELDS,
9:23:22AM WHEN THIS MAYORAL VOTE IS COMING UP, THEY NEED TO TAKE AND
9:23:27AM PUT MONEY IN THAT.
9:23:28AM TAKE THE MONEY AWAY FROM THE FIELDS.
9:23:30AM TAKE THE MONEY AWAY FROM PARKS AND RECREATION AND PUT IT
9:23:32AM INTO THAT AND HOW THAT COMES ABOUT.
9:23:34AM TAKE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW MICHELLE PATTY, HOW WTMP, KAY
9:23:45AM WELLS, FLORIDA SENTINEL AND ONE OR TWO OTHER INDIVIDUALS,
9:23:49AM FEW PREACHERS, REVEREND THOMAS SCOTT AND A FEW OTHER
9:23:53AM INDIVIDUALS LEAD THE NEGROES IN THIS CITY.
9:23:57AM HISTORICALLY HAVE LED THE NEGROES TO VOTE FOR STUPIDITY.
9:24:02AM THAT NEED TO CHANGE.
9:24:04AM THAT NEED TO CHANGE.
9:24:06AM AND ANY AFRICAN PERSON IN THIS CITY WHO WOULD VOTE FOR BOB
9:24:12AM BUCKHORN --
9:24:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. MENTESNOT.
9:24:16AM THIS IS ABOUT THE MULTI-SPORTS FIELD.
9:24:17AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:24:18AM >> STOP MY TIME WHILE YOU INTERRUPT.
9:24:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS ABOUT THE MULTI-SPORTS FIELD ITEM
9:24:23AM 1 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
9:24:24AM DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS REGARDING THE AGENDA ITEM OR
9:24:27AM DO YOU JUST WANT TO DISRESPECT THIS CHAMBER?
9:24:31AM >> I'M MOST DEFINITELY TALKING ABOUT FIELDS AND TALKING
9:24:34AM ABOUT WHERE RESOURCES SHOULD GO.
9:24:36AM TALKING ABOUT THE STUPIDITY ON FIELDS, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE
9:24:43AM EXISTENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.
9:24:46AM I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FIELD.
9:24:47AM I'M MOST DEFINITELY TALKING ABOUT THE FIELD.
9:24:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW MUCH TIME DOES HE HAVE LEFT?
9:24:52AM OKAY.
9:24:52AM LET'S GET YOUR 15 SECONDS DONE.
9:24:55AM >> AND THAT'S DISRESPECTFUL.
9:24:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, SIR.
9:24:57AM >> WHAT YOU DID IS DISRESPECTFUL.
9:24:59AM AND NEXT TIME YOU'LL GET CURSED OUT.
9:25:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I STOPPED THE CLOCK FOR US TO HAVE THE
9:25:03AM CONVERSATION.
9:25:04AM YOU CAN FINISH YOUR 15 SECONDS, I AM LETTING YOU KNOW THIS
9:25:06AM IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, MULTI-SPORTS FIELD COMPLEX.
9:25:13AM >> IF YOU HAD ANY KIND OF FLEXIBILITY IN YOUR WAY OF
9:25:16AM THINKING, YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:25:18AM BUT WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THIS CITY NEED TO KNOW, DO NOT
9:25:22AM VOTE FOR BOB BUCKHORN.
9:25:24AM HOLD YOUR VOTE 100%.
9:25:27AM DON'T LET OUR PEOPLE RUN THROUGH THAT AGAIN.
9:25:29AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:25:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NEXT SPEAKER.
9:25:35AM ANY OTHER SPEAKERS?
9:25:36AM LET ME LOG BACK INTO THIS MACHINE.
9:25:39AM IT WENT OUT.
9:25:40AM COUNCIL, I BELIEVE THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS FOR THIS
9:25:45AM PARTICULAR ITEM.
9:25:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MAKE A MOTION?
9:25:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU WANT TO SAVE THOSE FOR THE END
9:25:52AM UNDER NEW BUSINESS?
9:25:54AM WE'RE AT THE END OF THE ITEM.
9:25:55AM YOU WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY?
9:25:56AM LET'S DO IT.
9:25:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:25:58AM I AGAIN WANTED TO THANK MS. VAN LOAN FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
9:26:02AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
9:26:04AM IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
9:26:06AM QUESTION EITHER FOR MS. VAN LOAN OR MR. SHELBY, WHAT WOULD
9:26:10AM BE THE PROPER MOTION TO HAVE THIS COME BACK?
9:26:15AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE.
9:26:18AM WHATEVER MOTION YOU MAKE, I REQUEST FIRST READING FOR JULY
9:26:22AM 17.
9:26:24AM UPON PASSING OF THE MOTION, WE WILL POST THIS TO OUR WEBSITE
9:26:28AM TOMORROW.
9:26:28AM FOR THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD WANT TO ENTER PUBLIC COMMENT IT
9:26:31AM WOULD POST MAY 23rd THROUGH JUNE 16.
9:26:35AM BECAUSE OF YOUR JULY HOLIDAY, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU SET
9:26:38AM FIRST READING FOR JULY 17.
9:26:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:26:40AM MY MOTION WOULD BE TO HAVE A FIRST READING ON THE RENAMING
9:26:44AM OF THE MULTI-SPORTS FIELD AFTER THE LATE ROLAND PAZ, SENIOR,
9:26:49AM AS WELL AS WITH THE MARKER WHICH MS. VAN LOAN SPOKE OF AND
9:26:54AM TO HAVE THAT COME BACK ON JULY 17.
9:26:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:26:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY DISCUSSION?
9:26:58AM MR. MIRANDA.
9:27:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:27:01AM I'VE KNOWN OFFICER PAZ AND HIS FATHER MANY YEARS.
9:27:05AM IN FACT, I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SAY I WAS HERE IN 1977.
9:27:11AM IT'S AN HONOR.
9:27:12AM LOOK BACK 50 YEARS AGO, THAT'S WHAT IT IS JUST ABOUT, YOU
9:27:16AM REALIZE THAT SOCCER IS NOT WHAT SOCCER IS TODAY.
9:27:20AM SOCCER WAS SOMEWHERE WHERE NO ONE PLAYS.
9:27:26AM MAYBE TWO OR THREE KIDS TRYING IT OUT.
9:27:28AM THE INSPIRATION OF SOCCER, WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY HAD THE
9:27:30AM ROWDIES, WAY BACK, STARTED WAY BACK MANY YEARS AGO AND
9:27:34AM THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
9:27:36AM PAZ BY TEACHING THE KIDS WAS AN INFLUENTIAL, LIKE A GAS
9:27:40AM STOVE LIGHTING UP ONE OF THE GAS PARTS OF WHERE YOU COULD
9:27:44AM COOK AT AND GIVING THE KIDS A HEAD START IN WHAT WAS TO BE A
9:27:48AM COMPETITIVE SPORT.
9:27:49AM MORE PEOPLE PLAYING SOCCER IN THE WORLD THAN THERE IS
9:27:52AM FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL COMBINED.
9:27:54AM SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR FATHER FOR LEADING THE WAY
9:27:57AM AND MAKING SOME CHANGES IN AMERICA.
9:27:59AM THANK YOU.
9:28:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:28:01AM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:28:02AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:28:04AM >> AYE.
9:28:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OPPOSED?
9:28:05AM MOTION CARRIES.
9:28:07AM THANK YOU, MS. VAN LOAN.
9:28:10AM ITEM NUMBER 2 IS MR. VIK BHIDE, STORMWATER CONSULTANT
9:28:14AM APPLIED SCIENCES TO PRESENT THE UPDATES ON THE STORMWATER
9:28:17AM MASTER PLAN.
9:28:19AM ARE YOU GOING TO GO IN ORDER?
9:28:21AM SO THE SPEAKERS HAVE SIGNED UP FOR EACH TOPIC, ITEM AGENDA.
9:28:27AM >>VIK BHIDE: NUMBER 2 FIRST.
9:28:29AM GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COUNCIL.
9:28:31AM VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY.
9:28:33AM I HAVE YUAN LI, OUR STORMWATER MANAGER WITH US, AND OUR
9:28:36AM CONSULTANT AS WELL.
9:28:37AM DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION FIRST MADE BY COUNCILMAN
9:28:42AM CARLSON ABOUT THE STORMWATER PLAN AND THEN OUR CONSULTANT
9:28:46AM WILL PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION AS REQUESTED.
9:28:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:28:56AM YUAN LI, STORMWATER ENGINEERING MANAGER.
9:29:02AM APPLIED SCIENCES IS HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE UPDATE OF
9:29:05AM CITYWIDE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER
9:29:07AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:29:08AM BEFORE THEY PRESENT, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW
9:29:12AM OF THE PROJECT.
9:29:13AM SO TO THIS DAY, THE CITY HAS CONDUCTED THOUSANDS OF
9:29:17AM STORMWATER STUDIES FOR MAJORITY PARTS OF THE CITY IN
9:29:21AM RESPONSE TO FLOODING PROBLEMS AND TO DEVELOP THE STORMWATER
9:29:27AM IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
9:29:29AM THIS STUDY SPAN FROM ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO TO MOST RECENT.
9:29:34AM AND SOME PARTS OF THE STUDIES HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH A
9:29:38AM DETAILED STUDY BECAUSE OF NOT MANY FLOODING COMPLAINTS HAVE
9:29:43AM BEEN REPORTED.
9:29:44AM SO THIS PROJECT IS BY FAR THE LARGEST STORMWATER PLANNING
9:29:50AM PROJECT OF THE CITY AND IS REALLY BRINGS ALL PARTS OF THE
9:29:54AM CITY UP TO TODAY'S CONDITIONS AND TO TODAY'S ENGINEERING
9:29:59AM PRACTICE STANDARDS.
9:30:00AM IT WILL ADDRESS TWO MAJOR QUESTIONS.
9:30:02AM NUMBER ONE, THE CURRENT STATE OF CITY STORMWATER SYSTEM.
9:30:06AM SO AFTER COMPLETING ALL THE IMPLEMENT PROJECTS FROM SMALL
9:30:11AM SCALE LOCALIZED NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS TO REGIONAL SCALE,
9:30:18AM LARGE SCALE REGIONAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, SUCH AS
9:30:23AM MacDILL 48, WE WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS STILL LACKING IN
9:30:27AM CITY STORMWATER SYSTEM SO THAT A LIST OF NEW PROJECTS CAN BE
9:30:30AM DEVELOPED.
9:30:32AM NUMBER TWO, CURRENT FLOOD RISKS.
9:30:36AM WE ALL HEARD ABOUT.
9:30:42AM [INDISCERNIBLE]
9:30:42AM BEING FLOODED.
9:30:46AM THOSE WERE DESIGNATED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO, AND THEY NEED TO
9:30:52AM BE UPDATED WITH NEWER AND BETTER DATA.
9:30:55AM THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROJECT.
9:30:59AM ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO BETTER UNDERSTANDING THE FLOOD RISKS
9:31:02AM AND THEIR CURRENT CONDITIONS.
9:31:04AM SO THIS PROJECT PLANNING PHASE WAS COMPLETED IN 2023.
9:31:09AM AND WE HAVE ENGAGED SIX CONSULTING FIRMS WITH APPLIED BEING
9:31:15AM THE LEAD.
9:31:15AM COUNCIL APPROVED AGREEMENTS SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR AND THE WORK
9:31:23AM STARTED EARLY THIS YEAR.
9:31:24AM WITH THAT, OVER TO APPLIED.
9:31:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY SOMETHING QUICK TO SET THIS UP?
9:31:32AM I MADE THE MOTION ON THIS, BUT THIS WAS A REQUEST FROM THE
9:31:38AM COMMUNITY TO HAVE THIS SESSION HERE.
9:31:40AM AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR DOING THAT.
9:31:42AM THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR ASKED
9:31:45AM FOR THE CONSULTANT TO COME.
9:31:47AM I THINK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT NECESSARILY COMPEL THE
9:31:53AM ADMINISTRATION TO BRING THE CONSULTANT AND ALSO THE CITY HAS
9:31:55AM TO PAY THEM TO BE HERE.
9:31:57AM BUT I WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF FOR
9:31:59AM BRINGING THE CONSULTANT HERE TODAY BECAUSE THAT WAS A
9:32:02AM SPECIFIC REQUEST OF THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR FROM STAFF AND THE
9:32:05AM CONSULTANT.
9:32:05AM SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:32:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:32:12AM >> ELIE ARAJ WITH APPLIED SCIENCES CONSULTING.
9:32:15AM I AM THE PRESIDENT.
9:32:16AM AS YOU MENTIONED, WE ARE ALSO THE LEAD CONSULTANT THAT'S
9:32:18AM LEADING THIS EFFORT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
9:32:20AM WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WE WOULD BE SHARING WITH YOU.
9:32:24AM GREAT.
9:32:25AM BRIEFLY, HERE IS THE AGENDA FOR THE PRESENTATION.
9:32:34AM WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME QUICK INTRODUCTIONS, BACKGROUND
9:32:37AM INFORMATION, CURRENT EFFORTS AND GOALS, SCHEDULES AND
9:32:42AM MILESTONES, AND WE OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END.
9:32:45AM HERE IS OUR PRESENTATION TEAM THAT'S WITH US HERE TODAY.
9:32:48AM AGAIN, I'M ELIE ARAJ, THE PRESIDENT OF APPLIED SCIENCES.
9:32:54AM I'M A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
9:32:56AM CERTIFIED PROPERTY MANAGER AND BOARD CERTIFIED ENGINEER, AND
9:32:59AM I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF FOUNDING APPLIED SCIENCES RIGHT
9:33:03AM HERE IN TAMPA IN 2005.
9:33:06AM WE'RE HEADQUARTERED RIGHT HERE IN DOWNTOWN.
9:33:15AM WITH ME ALSO TODAY IS MARK HAMMOND, WHO IS ALSO A REGISTERED
9:33:16AM PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND AN MBA.
9:33:16AM MARK WORKED FOR 30 YEARS AT S.W.F.W.M.D., AND WE'VE HAD THE
9:33:18AM PLEASURE TO WORK WITH HIM THROUGH THE YEARS.
9:33:19AM HE LED THE FLOOD PROTECTION MANAGEMENT WATER SUPPLY AND
9:33:23AM WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS AND WETLAND WHEN HE WAS AT
9:33:27AM S.W.F.W.M.D.
9:33:29AM FINALLY WITH ME TODAY IS TAYLOR LANKFORD, WHO IS ALSO A
9:33:33AM REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH MANY YEARS OF
9:33:37AM EXPERIENCE WORKING ON MASTER PLANS JUST LIKE THIS ONE FOR
9:33:40AM S.W.F.W.M.D. AND OTHER CITIES.
9:33:46AM WE WERE HONORED BY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS SMALL BUSINESS OF
9:33:49AM THE YEAR.
9:33:50AM AND WE WERE ALSO ON THE USF FAST 56.
9:33:52AM GLAD TO BE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ON THE PROJECT.
9:33:54AM THIS MEANS AS MUCH TO US AS ANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE
9:33:57AM CITY.
9:33:58AM AS WE DIVE INTO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM AND WHY WE
9:34:03AM STARTED IT, WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WHAT WE CALL THE LIFE
9:34:06AM OF A STORMWATER PROJECT.
9:34:07AM MOST OF THE PROJECTS, WHETHER IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
9:34:11AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PINELLAS COUNTY, ANYWHERE ELSE, THEY
9:34:14AM REALLY START BY ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIX A PROBLEM OF SORTS.
9:34:19AM IT'S A FLOODING PROBLEM.
9:34:20AM IT'S A COMPLAINT OF SORTS.
9:34:21AM WE GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE THOSE PROBLEMS.
9:34:23AM SOMETIMES THERE COULD BE SIMPLE MAINTENANCE ISSUE OR
9:34:27AM SOMETHING CLOGGING IT, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE QUICKLY
9:34:30AM FIXED AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING.
9:34:32AM A LOT OF TIMES SOMETHING A LOT MORE COMPLEX LIKE A LACK OF A
9:34:36AM DRAINAGE SYSTEM OR A SYSTEM UNDER CAPACITY, WHICH WE HAVE
9:34:40AM SEEN A LOT OF THOSE LATELY.
9:34:42AM ONCE THAT DECISION IS MADE, THERE'S USUALLY A POLICY
9:34:47AM DECISION AND A BUDGET DECISION TO ADVANCE THAT AND TO STUDY
9:34:52AM THE ISSUE AND SEE HOW CAN THIS REGIONAL SYSTEM BE IMPROVED.
9:34:56AM WE DO THE MODELING FOR THE WHOLE DRAINAGE BASIN, WATERSHED,
9:35:01AM WHATEVER THE DRAINAGE AREA MIGHT BE.
9:35:03AM AND WE START TO COME UP WITH REGIONAL SOLUTIONS THAT WILL
9:35:06AM END UP ADDRESSING AND ALLEVIATING SOME OF THOSE FLOODING
9:35:09AM PROBLEMS.
9:35:10AM AND FROM THESE MODELING EXERCISES AND THE STORMWATER MASTER
9:35:14AM PLAN, YOU GET PROJECTS, AND THESE PROJECTS ADJUST WATER
9:35:18AM QUANTITY AND WATER QUALITY ISSUES THAT THIS PROBLEM IS
9:35:22AM TRYING TO FIX.
9:35:22AM THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF FEASIBILITY.
9:35:26AM ARE THEY FEASIBLE?
9:35:27AM CAN THEY GET DONE?
9:35:29AM ARE THERE ANY RIGHT-OF-WAY ISSUES?
9:35:32AM EASEMENT ISSUES?
9:35:33AM DO WE NEED TO COORDINATE WITH TECO, WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD,
9:35:37AM ANY OTHER ENTITIES OR EVEN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, OTHER
9:35:40AM JURISDICTIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY GET DONE?
9:35:41AM AND THAT'S ALL VETTED DURING THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY.
9:35:45AM AND THIS IS WHEN WE GET EXACTLY WHAT THE DESIGN IS GOING TO
9:35:47AM BE AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST.
9:35:49AM WITH THAT, WE GO AND WE GET THE DESIGN AND THE PERMITTING
9:35:53AM FOR THE PROJECT.
9:35:55AM SOMETIMES THAT'S BUNDLED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AS A
9:35:58AM DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT LIKE SOME OF THE CITY HAS FOR SOME OF
9:36:02AM THEIR STORMWATER PROJECTS.
9:36:03AM SOMETIMES IT IS A DESIGN BID BUILD PROCESS.
9:36:09AM IT DIDN'T ALWAYS BE THAT WAY.
9:36:12AM IN THE PAST BEFORE PERMITTING AND OTHER REGULATIONS, IT USED
9:36:14AM TO BE THAT YOU FIND A PROBLEM, YOU DIG A DITCH, IT'S DONE.
9:36:18AM CORPS OF ENGINEERS, OTHER ENTITIES DID THAT THROUGH THE
9:36:21AM YEARS AND THEN AS WE LEARNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON WETLANDS
9:36:24AM AND OTHER ECOSYSTEM ITEMS, WE LEARNED TO GO THROUGH MORE
9:36:29AM SYSTEMATIC MANNER.
9:36:31AM FINALLY ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION IS DONE, WE GO THROUGH
9:36:34AM OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AND IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
9:36:37AM WHEN WE GET THESE THINGS BUILT, THAT WE ARE OPERATING THEM
9:36:40AM PROPERLY AND MAINTAINING THEM PROPERLY FOR BEST PRACTICES
9:36:43AM AND PERMIT REQUIREMENTS.
9:36:45AM WHY?
9:36:45AM BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE'RE BACK ON THE PROBLEM SIDE
9:36:49AM AND WE'LL HAVE TO START OVER AGAIN.
9:36:51AM THIS IS WHY THIS IS KEEPING THAT IN MIND IS VERY IMPORTANT.
9:36:54AM WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW AND THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE
9:36:58AM DISCUSSING IS THE CITYWIDE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS.
9:37:01AM WE STARTED THIS PROCESS BY LOOKING AT ALL THE BASINS IN THE
9:37:06AM CITY.
9:37:07AM THE CITY HAS MORE OR LESS 46 BASINS OR 46 AREAS.
9:37:12AM YOU'LL HEAR ME USE THOSE TERMS INTERCHANGEABLY.
9:37:16AM WE LOOK AT WHAT WAS STUDIED, WHAT WASN'T STUDIED, WHAT
9:37:19AM PROJECTS WERE BUILT THROUGH THE YEARS.
9:37:21AM AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE WERE A LOT OF PROJECTS BUILT.
9:37:24AM HENDERSON, UPPER PENINSULA, BIG PROJECTS DONE IN THE LAST
9:37:29AM FIVE, SIX YEARS.
9:37:30AM SMALL PROJECTS, 40th AVENUE, A LOT OF PROJECTS DONE
9:37:33AM THROUGH THE YEARS.
9:37:34AM WE TRIED TO GET A BIG PICTURE OF WHAT WAS DONE AND FIGURE
9:37:39AM OUT THE PRIORITIES OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT.
9:37:41AM SO THIS ONE IS A MAP OR A GRAPHIC SHOWING THE BASINS OR
9:37:49AM DRAINAGE AREAS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY STUDIED IN THE CITY.
9:37:52AM AND THESE CAN GO BACK TO MANY YEARS, LIKE THE CLEVELAND
9:37:55AM STREET STUDY, FOR EXAMPLE.
9:37:56AM THAT GOES BACK MANY YEARS.
9:37:58AM IT WAS DONE, STUDIED, LOOKED AT.
9:38:00AM AND SOME WERE MORE RECENT LIKE THE UPPER PENINSULA JUST
9:38:04AM REFERENCED BEFORE.
9:38:07AM AS WE WENT THROUGH THESE, WE ALSO LOOKED AT OR MARKED THE
9:38:12AM MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE, TIA AND THE PORT AUTHORITY BECAUSE
9:38:16AM THEY HAVE THEIR OWN JURISDICTION AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN
9:38:18AM RESPONSIBILITIES AND BUDGETING.
9:38:20AM IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T COORDINATE WITH THEM.
9:38:22AM IT'S JUST THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE
9:38:25AM CARE OF THEIR DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
9:38:26AM AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THE PRIORITIZATION PROCESS OF THE ONES
9:38:31AM THAT WERE NOT STUDIED, WE BEGAN THE STUDIES UNDERWAY RIGHT
9:38:36AM NOW.
9:38:37AM THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN GREEN RIGHT NOW.
9:38:39AM WE HAVE 11 OF THOSE ALREADY UNDERWAY.
9:38:41AM AND THOSE CAME TO THE TOP BECAUSE OF EITHER FLOODING
9:38:44AM PROBLEMS, CAME ON TOP BECAUSE OF PRIORITY OF COMPLAINTS.
9:38:50AM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS WHAT THE CITY STAFF WENT
9:38:54AM THROUGH IN DOING THAT PRIORITIZATION.
9:39:01AM NEXT IN LINE, AFTER WE FINISHED THE CURRENT STEP WE HAVE,
9:39:03AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ONES THAT ARE SHOWN IN ORANGE OR
9:39:06AM YELLOW RIGHT HERE.
9:39:07AM AND THOSE WOULD BE, ONCE WE ARE DONE WITH THAT, WE WOULD
9:39:10AM HAVE COMPLETED STUDYING ALL THE DRAINAGE AREAS THAT ARE IN
9:39:13AM THE CITY.
9:39:14AM HERE IS A QUICK EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, LOOKING
9:39:20AM AT TERRAIN.
9:39:21AM LOOKING AT EXISTING FLOODING PROBLEMS, DRAINAGE AREAS.
9:39:24AM WHAT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY IN PLACE.
9:39:29AM IN THIS CASE, THERE IS A BOX CULVERT THAT GOES OUT TO THE
9:39:32AM BAY.
9:39:33AM THIS SPECIFIC BASIN, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS HAD RECENT FLOODING
9:39:38AM ISSUES, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY STUDIED.
9:39:41AM THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IN THIS
9:39:43AM FIRST BATCH THAT I JUST DISCUSSED.
9:39:46AM WE'RE ALSO SETTING UP A DASHBOARD FOR THE ENTIRE EFFORT THAT
9:39:52AM WILL SHOW WHICH BASINS ARE BEING STUDIED, THE SCHEDULES,
9:39:57AM BUDGETS, AND ALL THE RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT EITHER
9:40:00AM COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC OR ANYBODY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.
9:40:03AM AND THAT WOULD BE PUBLISHED SOMETIME SOON FOR EVERYBODY TO
9:40:06AM SEE AND HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY OF THE PROCESS.
9:40:08AM THIS IS A LIST OF THE CONSULTANTS THAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER
9:40:13AM THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS.
9:40:14AM TOTAL OF 6 CONSULTANTS, INCLUDING OURSELVES, THAT ARE
9:40:19AM WORKING ON THESE VARIOUS BASINS WITH THE VARIOUS COMPLETION
9:40:23AM DEADLINES AS YOU SEE.
9:40:24AM WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR, THAT FIRST BATCH OF THE MODELING TO
9:40:27AM BE COMPLETED IS IN 2026, FEBRUARY 2026.
9:40:31AM THIS IS AN OVERALL SCHEDULE THAT WE ALSO ARE LOOKING TO GET
9:40:42AM IT IMPLEMENTED WHERE WE WOULD BE COMPLETING THE ENTIRE
9:40:47AM PROGRAM WITH PROJECTS IDENTIFIED BY JUNE 2027.
9:40:52AM THIS WHOLE PROGRAM WAS FUNDED.
9:40:56AM RIGHT NOW THAT FUNDING WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
9:40:58AM AND THAT IS ABOUT $5 MILLION.
9:41:00AM SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WE'RE
9:41:05AM IDENTIFYING THE PROJECTS, WE CALL THE GREEN AND GRAY
9:41:08AM PROJECTS, SOME OF THEM ARE THE CLASSICAL BOX CULVERTS AND
9:41:12AM WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO ACTUALLY GET THE WATER FROM UPSTREAM
9:41:15AM TO DOWNSTREAM.
9:41:17AM BUT ALSO LOOKING AT SOME MORE INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES AND
9:41:20AM ITEMS THAT WE HAVE USED THROUGH THE YEARS THAT ARE MORE
9:41:22AM SENSITIVE, LIKE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:41:25AM THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS COUNTERPART THAT WE DESIGNED IN
9:41:30AM CITY OF PALMETTO.
9:41:31AM WE HAVE THE FLEXI PAY, PERVIOUS PAVEMENT.
9:41:35AM PERVIOUS PAVERS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SIDEWALK.
9:41:37AM THAT'S ALSO PERVIOUS.
9:41:38AM LESS RUNOFF.
9:41:39AM LESS POLLUTION.
9:41:43AM YOU CAN'T SEE THEM, BUT SOLAR PANELS ON THAT -- WE HAVE AN
9:41:49AM AERATION DEVICE IN THE POND FOR BETTER OXYGENATION.
9:41:52AM AND SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE STANDARD OF THE INDUSTRY TO
9:41:56AM USE AS GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER AS WE'RE
9:41:59AM GOING THROUGH THIS.
9:42:00AM WE ALSO ARE CONSIDERING AND WE MAY NEED TO CONSIDER SOME
9:42:04AM MORE WHAT WE CALL ACTIVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WHERE GRAVITY
9:42:07AM BY ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH.
9:42:10AM THE PICTURE IN THE MIDDLE IS FOR THE HOLIDAY PUMP STATION WE
9:42:14AM DESIGNED FOR PASCO COUNTY.
9:42:15AM THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE WATER OUT.
9:42:19AM WE DON'T REALLY LIKE TO USE PUMP STATIONS BUT THEY ARE
9:42:24AM EXPENSIVE, THEY ARE EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN, EXPENSIVE TO
9:42:27AM BUILD, BUT SOMETIMES THAT'S THE ONLY SOLUTION THAT WE HAVE
9:42:30AM IF WE NEED TO EFFICIENTLY ADDRESS A PROBLEM.
9:42:32AM WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT IS CALLED REAL-TIME
9:42:38AM FLOOD FORECASTING.
9:42:39AM AND THESE ARE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE BEING USED IN OTHER
9:42:42AM AREAS AROUND THE STATE AND AROUND THE BAY AREA WHERE YOU
9:42:46AM ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO SEE A STORM COMING, GET THE IMPACT OF
9:42:53AM WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO TO A CERTAIN PERIOD OR A CERTAIN
9:42:56AM WATERSHED.
9:42:57AM OPEN UP PONDS.
9:42:58AM OPEN UP GATES TO ACTUALLY ALLOW THE WATER OUT AND THEN BE
9:43:02AM ABLE TO MORE EFFECTIVELY CAPTURE THAT ADDITIONAL RUNOFF AS
9:43:06AM THE STORM COMES.
9:43:08AM THAT WAS USED SUCCESSFULLY IN MANATEE COUNTY DURING THE LAST
9:43:14AM TWO HURRICANES THAT WE HAD.
9:43:16AM AND THEY ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A SYSTEM USING SOME
9:43:22AM TECHNOLOGIES.
9:43:23AM THERE ARE SOME OFF-THE-SHELF SYSTEMS AND SYSTEMS THAT YOU
9:43:26AM CAN ACTUALLY BUILD YOURSELF.
9:43:28AM WE HELPED THEM WITH THAT STUDY AND WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING
9:43:31AM WITH THEM RIGHT NOW TO GET THIS PERMITTED THROUGH
9:43:34AM S.W.F.W.M.D. FOR AN OPERATIONAL PERMIT TO DEMONSTRATE
9:43:38AM ALTHOUGH THEY ARE OPENING UP THE GATES AND OPERATING THEM,
9:43:40AM STILL MEETING ALL THE CRITERIA AND THE MINIMUM PURPOSE OF
9:43:43AM WHAT THAT POND WAS BUILT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
9:43:46AM THIS IS SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AND
9:43:50AM IMPLEMENTING AND LOOKING AT THOSE AS WE COME UP WITH
9:43:52AM SOLUTIONS FOR THE CITY.
9:43:53AM THE BONUS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW ALSO IS THE
9:43:58AM FACT THAT FOR THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM, OR CRS BENEFITS
9:44:03AM THROUGH THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, FIP, THE CITY
9:44:08AM RIGHT NOW CURRENT STATUS IS FIVE.
9:44:10AM WHICH WE'RE GETTING ABOUT 25% DISCOUNT ON ALL FLOOD
9:44:15AM PREMIUMS.
9:44:15AM AS WE ARE FINISHING UP, AS WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER OUR
9:44:18AM MASTER PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE PROBABLY AT 3.
9:44:25AM JUMP FROM 4 AND BE AT 3, WHICH ALLOW 35% DISCOUNT AND 8.3
9:44:30AM MILLION.
9:44:30AM THE THRESHOLD THERE IS THE FACT THAT WE STUDIED 50% OR MORE
9:44:34AM OF THE CITY, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING COME
9:44:37AM FEBRUARY, ACTUALLY.
9:44:38AM SO THE CITY IS GOING TO BE IN GREAT SHAPE TO ACTUALLY GET
9:44:41AM SOME DISCOUNTS ON THE PREMIUMS AND TO BE PROUD TO GET THIS
9:44:45AM LEVEL OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE NFIP AND PASS SOME OF THOSE
9:44:48AM SAVINGS ON TO THE RESIDENTS.
9:44:50AM WITH THAT, WE OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
9:44:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:44:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:44:59AM CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE?
9:45:02AM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVINGS, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
9:45:05AM CITY.
9:45:06AM DOES THAT MEAN CITY PROPERTIES OR DOES THAT MEAN RESIDENTS?
9:45:10AM >> RESIDENTS.
9:45:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:45:11AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFIED THAT.
9:45:13AM BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY, $8.3 MILLION
9:45:16AM IS GREAT, BUT FOR RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS AND PROPERTY
9:45:21AM OWNERS, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
9:45:22AM THEN IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE INITIAL MAP OF THE
9:45:29AM STORMWATER.
9:45:34AM YES, THAT BASIN MAP.
9:45:35AM SO I NOTICED PART WAY THROUGH, SO THIS WAS YOUR ORIGINAL
9:45:39AM MAP, AND THERE'S 46 DRAINAGE BASINS.
9:45:42AM I SAW THAT THERE IS A 47th NOW WHERE YOU DIVIDED 29 IN
9:45:48AM HALF.
9:45:48AM SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE DOING BASED ON STUDIES?
9:45:54AM AS YOU LOOK AT AREAS, DO YOU SEE, OH, WELL, THESE ARE A
9:45:57AM LITTLE DIFFERENT AND DIVIDE THEM OUT?
9:45:58AM HOW DOES THAT WORK?
9:45:59AM HOW DO YOU GET ANOTHER DRAINAGE BASIN?
9:46:03AM >> THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, AND WE ARE ALWAYS COLLECTING
9:46:06AM INFORMATION ON HOW TO ACTUALLY BETTER REPRESENT WHAT'S
9:46:09AM HAPPENING.
9:46:09AM SOMETIMES IT CAN BE AN ACTUAL EVENT.
9:46:12AM SOMETIMES IT COULD BE A PRODUCT OF SURVEYING THAT WAS SENT
9:46:15AM OUT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SURVEYORS THAT WERE SENT OUT BY OUR
9:46:18AM SIX CONSULTANTS TO ACTUALLY GET THAT INFORMATION.
9:46:21AM AND ALSO IT COULD BE JUST PERMITS ON OTHER DATA THAT WE
9:46:28AM RECEIVED THAT WOULD HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND THE DRAINAGE
9:46:30AM PATTERNS.
9:46:31AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, IS ON THE FLAT SIDE
9:46:37AM COMPARED TO OCALA, TALLAHASSEE OR OTHER AREAS.
9:46:40AM ANY INFORMATION LIKE THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE BETTER
9:46:42AM JUDGMENTS AND BETTER CALLS ON THE DRAINAGE.
9:46:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:46:47AM AT THE VERY END OF THIS, WHAT PARTS OF THE CITY WILL NOT BE
9:46:50AM LOOKED AT?
9:46:51AM >> THE GOAL IS BY THE END OF THIS IS TO LOOK AT ALL THE
9:46:55AM PARCELS IN THE CITY EXCEPT THE THREE AREAS I MENTIONED,
9:47:00AM MacDILL, THE PORT, AND TIA.
9:47:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED TOWARD THE END ANY CITY
9:47:06AM THAT HAD 50%.
9:47:07AM BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS STUDY WILL REVIEW 100% OF THE
9:47:12AM DRAINAGE BASINS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:47:14AM >> CORRECT.
9:47:15AM I CAN CLARIFY THAT.
9:47:17AM I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE POINTS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CRS
9:47:24AM SYSTEM.
9:47:25AM ONE OF THOSE POINTS REQUIREMENTS IS FOR A CITY OR A COUNTY
9:47:28AM OR AN ENTITY TO STUDY AND UPDATE 50% OR MORE OF THEIR
9:47:33AM DRAINAGE AREA.
9:47:34AM AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WAY BEYOND THAT.
9:47:36AM UP ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT.
9:47:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC.
9:47:42AM IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE
9:47:44AM LOOKED AT IN THIS PLAN.
9:47:47AM >> YES.
9:47:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AT THE END, WHEN THIS IS GETTING CLOSE TO
9:47:53AM BEING COMPLETED AS A PLAN, DO WE HAVE IN THE CONTRACT FOR
9:48:02AM YOU ALL TO PRESENT TO COMMUNITY GROUPS?
9:48:12AM >> I'M GOING TO ANSWER THAT IN TWO PARTS.
9:48:14AM ONE, THERE IS A LOT OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROCESS THAT WE
9:48:18AM TALKED ABOUT AT THE END.
9:48:20AM WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE AND MAYBE CITY
9:48:24AM STAFF CAN MORE ADDRESS THAT NOW OR LATER.
9:48:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:48:31AM >> I DO WANT TO ADD THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS A CRITICAL
9:48:37AM COMPONENT OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
9:48:39AM THE CITY IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF SENDING PUBLIC
9:48:43AM NOTIFICATIONS SO PEOPLE WILL KNOW THE STATUS.
9:48:48AM THEY ARE ALSO ENCOURAGED TO SHARE THE FLOODING
9:48:51AM DOCUMENTATIONS AND OTHER EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORT AND VALIDATE
9:48:54AM OUR STUDIES.
9:48:55AM FLOOD PLAN, FLOOD RISKS IDENTIFIED, WE'LL HOST NEIGHBORHOOD
9:49:04AM MEETING FOR EVERY SINGLE BASIN WE'RE STUDYING SO PEOPLE CAN
9:49:10AM COME OVER AND LOOK AT THE -- SHARE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
9:49:15AM THIS IS AN INTEGRAL PROCESS GETTING THE PUBLIC INVOLVED IN
9:49:21AM THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
9:49:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW.
9:49:23AM 47 MEETINGS.
9:49:24AM THAT'S AMAZING.
9:49:25AM THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.
9:49:28AM INTERESTINGLY, ONE MORE QUESTION.
9:49:32AM BOTH OF YOU TALKED ABOUT GETTING PUBLIC DATA.
9:49:38AM WHERE CAN THE PUBLIC SHARE THAT DATA WITH YOU NOW?
9:49:43AM IF THEY HAVE PHOTOS.
9:49:45AM IF THEY HAVE ANY TYPES OF DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THE FLOODING
9:49:50AM THEY RECEIVED IN EITHER THEIR HOUSE OR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD,
9:49:53AM WHERE CAN THEY SEND THAT?
9:49:57AM >> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING A DASHBOARD AND
9:50:02AM ALSO THE CITY WEBSITE SO THAT WE'LL SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC,
9:50:05AM SENDING THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, THEY CAN UPLOAD PHOTOS OR
9:50:10AM DOCUMENTATION TO THE WEBSITE.
9:50:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE THE WEBSITE
9:50:16AM COMPLETE MORE OR LESS?
9:50:18AM >> I WOULD SAY EARLY SUMMER.
9:50:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
9:50:21AM WELL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
9:50:24AM WHEN IT'S READY, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF DURING ADMINISTRATIVE
9:50:28AM UPDATE IF YOU COULD COME AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN
9:50:31AM THE WEBSITE SO THAT FOLKS AND MAYBE A QR CODE SO PEOPLE CAN
9:50:35AM USE IT DIRECTLY FROM THERE.
9:50:37AM I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
9:50:39AM I THINK THAT IS A PERFECT USE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
9:50:42AM SO THAT WILL BE MY REQUEST TO YOU.
9:50:44AM >> YES, THE MOTION, THIS IS INITIAL WORKSHOP.
9:50:48AM THE MOTION IS COME BACK EVERY QUARTER, IF I REMEMBER
9:50:51AM CORRECTLY, SO THAT BY THE NEXT TIME WE MEET, WE PROBABLY
9:50:56AM SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE THE INFORMATION.
9:50:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT, GREAT.
9:50:59AM I'M JUST SAYING IF IT HAPPENS TO HAPPEN, COME EARLIER, THE
9:51:03AM EARLIER THE BETTER.
9:51:04AM >>VIK BHIDE: ABSOLUTELY.
9:51:06AM VIK BHIDE.
9:51:06AM REAL QUICK, AND ELIE POINTED THIS OUT.
9:51:12AM WE ALREADY RECEIVED, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, COMPLAINTS AND
9:51:14AM CONCERNS.
9:51:15AM THAT IS BEING PASSED ON TO OUR CONSULTANT TEAMS AS WELL, AS
9:51:19AM KIND OF BASELINE INFORMATION.
9:51:20AM BEYOND THE DASHBOARD THAT WE'LL SET UP AND THE PUBLIC
9:51:23AM MEETINGS, WE ALREADY HAVE A BASELINE SET OF INFORMATION.
9:51:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DOES THAT BASELINE SET INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO
9:51:32AM CALL IN WITH COMPLAINTS?
9:51:35AM OR DOES IT JUST INCLUDE AREAS THAT STAFF HAS SEEN?
9:51:41AM >>VIK BHIDE: IT DOES INCLUDE COMPLAINTS AS WELL.
9:51:44AM IN FACT, THAT IS HOW THE FIRST KIND OF LEVEL OF THE PLANNING
9:51:50AM EFFORT, I WANT TO SAY 10, 12 YEARS WAS DONE, WAS BASED ON
9:51:56AM THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING.
9:51:59AM WE HAVE THE INFORMATION.
9:52:00AM WE HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM THE LAST STORM SEASON, FOR
9:52:02AM EXAMPLE.
9:52:03AM BUT GIVEN THIS IS A PLANNING-LEVEL STUDY, THAT WILL BE THE
9:52:07AM STARTING POINT.
9:52:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:52:09AM WELL, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
9:52:11AM SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR.
9:52:12AM MAKE A COMPLAINT, IT WILL BE ADDED TO THE SECTION.
9:52:15AM I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
9:52:16AM THANK YOU.
9:52:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON.
9:52:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR OPERATION
9:52:22AM AND HOW WELL QUALIFIED YOUR TEAM IS.
9:52:25AM OUT OF THE 46 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, THERE'S 46 HUNDRED
9:52:31AM THOUSAND SOMEWHERE ELSE.
9:52:32AM WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS A PHENOMENON THAT FINALLY NATURE HAS
9:52:36AM CAUGHT UP TO REALITY.
9:52:37AM THE REALITY IS THAT WE MISREAD NATURE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
9:52:41AM I'M NOT A SCIENTIST.
9:52:42AM I DON'T HAVE THE DEGREES YOU GUYS HAVE, BUT THESE ARE THE
9:52:46AM THINGS IF YOU LOOK AT TENNESSEE, KENTUCKY, DEVASTATING NOT
9:52:49AM ONLY ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES, WHICH HAD NEVER HAPPENED
9:52:53AM BEFORE.
9:52:53AM I HOPE THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS
9:52:59AM WOULD BE SOMETHING, NOT A STOPGAP, BUT SOMETHING FOR LONG
9:53:03AM TERM TO SAY WE HAVE DONE SOMETHING.
9:53:05AM HOWEVER I HAVE DOUBT.
9:53:06AM THE DOUBT IS THAT BAY, YOU AND I CAN'T CONTROL.
9:53:10AM NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WATER DOES NOT FLOW NORTH.
9:53:13AM IT FLOWS WHERE?
9:53:14AM SOUTH.
9:53:15AM WHAT'S AT THE BAY, THE OUTLET WHERE THE WATER GOES INTO.
9:53:20AM THAT BAY IS COMING IN, INCOMING TIDE AND YOU HAVE THIS WATER
9:53:24AM COMING OUT, THE COLLISION IS GOING TO BE NOT IN OUR FAVOR,
9:53:29AM TRILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF GALLONS AND WE HAVE WATER GOING
9:53:34AM OUT, OR SUPPOSED TO BE GOING OUT BUT IT'S GOING TO COME
9:53:37AM BACK.
9:53:37AM MY CONCERN IS TWOFOLD.
9:53:40AM ONE, HOW WILL WE SOLVE THAT PROBLEM OR MINIMIZE IT?
9:53:43AM SECONDLY, WE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GOT
9:53:49AM TO BE TORN DOWN ONLY BECAUSE IT HAS FIVE FEET OF WATER
9:53:53AM INSIDE, WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE ISLANDS AND YOU LOOK AT
9:53:56AM PUERTO RICO -- YES, SIR.
9:54:00AM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
9:54:01AM I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE MAKING A
9:54:04AM REALLY GOOD POINT.
9:54:05AM THIS IS KIND OF IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO RECOGNIZE.
9:54:08AM IN FACT, ELIE BROUGHT THIS UP WHEN WE HAD A CONVERSATION
9:54:13AM EARLIER THIS YEAR.
9:54:16AM OUR STORMWATER ENTERPRISE SPEAKS TO STORMWATER, BOTH
9:54:20AM ASSESSMENTS, IMPROVEMENT AND THE CAPITAL -- SORRY, CAPITAL
9:54:26AM AND SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
9:54:28AM APOLOGIES.
9:54:29AM STORMWATER IS DEFINED AS WATER THAT IS COLLECTED BY RAIN.
9:54:36AM YOU ARE ACCURATELY POINTING OUT RISKS TO OUR COASTLINE FROM
9:54:42AM SURGE AND SALTWATER.
9:54:43AM THAT IS NOT DEFINED IN OUR IMPROVEMENT OR SERVICE
9:54:47AM ASSESSMENTS.
9:54:48AM AND TREATMENTS FOR THOSE ARE NOT IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THIS
9:54:54AM SYSTEM.
9:54:54AM AND THAT DOES NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
9:54:57AM THERE ARE POLICIES HISTORICALLY BETWEEN THE AGENCIES, PORTS,
9:55:02AM AND PRIVATE PROPERTIES.
9:55:03AM AND SOME OF THOSE SOLUTIONS ARE EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY
9:55:07AM INTENSIVE.
9:55:08AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEAWALLS AND RAISING SEAWALLS AND THEN
9:55:11AM ADDING PUMP STATIONS BEHIND IT.
9:55:14AM BUT THAT DOES NEED TO BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE IN OUR
9:55:17AM ENTERPRISE, BOTH SERVICE AS WELL AS IMPROVEMENT, STORMWATER
9:55:21AM IS RAIN ONLY.
9:55:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
9:55:25AM WHEN I SAY -- I SEE SOMEONE COMING UP TO THE MIKE THAT I
9:55:29AM BELIEVE KNOWS MORE THAN ME, I STOP.
9:55:31AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A
9:55:35AM DISCUSSION LIKE WE'RE HAVING NOW, CERTAINLY IT'S VERY NICE
9:55:38AM TO HAVE IT ON THE TABLE AND UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M JUST
9:55:40AM CONCERNED THAT I CAN'T CONTROL NATURE.
9:55:45AM SOMETHING THAT'S THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO US
9:55:48AM BEFORE AND NATURE SAYS I'LL HAVE IT FOUR TIMES, IT WORKS UP
9:55:51AM TO A POINT.
9:55:52AM AND THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY, THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING, BUT
9:55:56AM CAN WE SOLVE IT ALL?
9:55:58AM IT'S HARD TO LIVE BY A COASTAL AREA.
9:56:01AM IT'S HARD TO LIVE IN THE MOUNTAINS WHEN YOU HAVE A TORNADO
9:56:04AM COMING AT YOU AND CAN'T MOVE AND CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
9:56:07AM THESE ARE THINGS OF NATURE.
9:56:08AM BUT WE HAVE CAUSED THAT PROBLEM, ALL OF US LIVING IN AMERICA
9:56:12AM HAVE CAUSED THAT PROBLEM.
9:56:14AM THANK YOU.
9:56:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:56:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
9:56:19AM THANKS AGAIN.
9:56:20AM JUST SOME KIND OF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
9:56:26AM YOU SHOWED THE COLORED MAPS OF THE DEPTH OF THE WATER.
9:56:30AM THOSE ARE VERY HELPFUL AS WE'VE GONE OUT IN THE FIELD TO
9:56:32AM MEET WITH FOLKS.
9:56:33AM I'M CURIOUS, HOW DO YOU MEASURE THE DEPTH?
9:56:35AM DO YOU HAVE DEVICES IN PLACES THAT SHOW IS IT JUST MEASURING
9:56:39AM RAINFALL?
9:56:40AM BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY LIVES AT THE BOTTOM OF A BASIN, THE
9:56:43AM WATER IS HITTING -- IF IT'S FOUR INCHES, THEY MIGHT HAVE 20
9:56:46AM INCHES BECAUSE IT'S ALL POURING IN THERE.
9:56:49AM HOW DO YOU MEASURE THAT?
9:56:51AM >> WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL LIDAR IN GIS, WHICH IS A LASER
9:56:57AM DEVICE BASICALLY USED FOR SURVEYING AND ELEVATIONS OF THE
9:57:00AM TERRAIN.
9:57:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU FLY OVER AFTER IT RAINED OR DO IT IN
9:57:05AM GENERAL?
9:57:05AM >> THAT INFORMATION IS LED BY THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER
9:57:10AM MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
9:57:11AM THEY FLY FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PINELLAS COUNTY --
9:57:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND QUESTION RELATED TO THAT IS THE
9:57:17AM FLOW OF WATER.
9:57:18AM THERE ARE QUESTIONS -- I DON'T WANT TO MENTION SPECIFIC
9:57:20AM NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THE WATER IS
9:57:23AM COMING FROM THAT'S POURING IN.
9:57:25AM IF YOU LOOK AT A BOWL, YOU CAN FIGURE IT'S MAYBE COMING FROM
9:57:28AM EVERYWHERE.
9:57:29AM SOMETIMES THEY THINK IT'S COMING FROM SPECIFIC PLACES IF THE
9:57:31AM TERRAIN IS CHANGED IN SOME WAY.
9:57:33AM IS THERE ANY WAY TO MEASURE WHERE THE WATER IS COMING FROM?
9:57:37AM >> ABSOLUTELY, YEAH.
9:57:37AM THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO.
9:57:39AM WHEN WE SET UP OUR MODEL BASED ON THE TERRAIN, BASED ON THE
9:57:43AM INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS IN PLACE, WE DO THE MODELING FOR
9:57:46AM THAT.
9:57:46AM THE FIRST STEP WE DO RIGHT AFTER DONE WITH MODELING IS WHAT
9:57:49AM WE CALL CALIBRATION, WHICH IS TO FIGURE OUT, IS WHAT WAS
9:57:54AM OBSERVED IN THE FIELD, FROM COMPLAINTS, FROM THE DATA COMING
9:57:57AM IN FROM THE CITIZENS, DOES THAT MATCH WITH WHAT WE ARE
9:58:00AM TRYING TO MODEL?
9:58:01AM WE'RE LOOKING AT STAIN LINES.
9:58:03AM WE'RE LOOKING AT PICTURES.
9:58:04AM WE ASK AS MANY PICTURES, AS MUCH INFORMATION THAT COULD BE
9:58:09AM SHARED FROM THE PUBLIC MAKES OUR TOOL A LOT MORE ACCURATE.
9:58:11AM IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 100% ACCURATE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE
9:58:14AM VERY ACCURATE FOR THE PURPOSES OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
9:58:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE VIDEOS AND THE
9:58:22AM REPORTS WERE THERE WAS A WATERFALL OF WATER COMING OVER THE
9:58:26AM SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
9:58:28AM SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE VIDEOS AND PICTURES AND USING
9:58:31AM THAT TO CALIBRATE?
9:58:33AM >> CORRECT.
9:58:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: TO THE SAME POINT THAT CAME UP ABOUT SURGE,
9:58:39AM VIK ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT SURGE IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS
9:58:42AM BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE TEXT WAS DEFINED.
9:58:46AM THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, CULBREATH HEIGHTS, BAYSIDE
9:58:49AM WEST, DAVIS ISLANDS, THAT WERE HIT WITH SURGE.
9:58:51AM IS THERE A PROCESS THAT'S BEEN STARTED ON SURGE?
9:58:55AM HOW DO WE START THAT SO WE CAN MEASURE THAT AND COME UP WITH
9:59:01AM SOLUTIONS?
9:59:01AM I'M SURE THE PEOPLE HIT BY SURGE ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS
9:59:04AM AS WELL.
9:59:05AM >> RIGHT.
9:59:05AM AS VIK MENTIONED, THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY A PORTION OF THIS
9:59:10AM STUDY BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT RAINFALL, FRESHWATER.
9:59:13AM BUT AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AND AS YOU'RE ALLUDING TO, WE
9:59:16AM HAD TWO HURRICANES.
9:59:17AM WE HAD MILTON AND WE HAD HELENE.
9:59:19AM HELENE WAS A STORM SURGE, SALTWATER FLOODING.
9:59:23AM MILTON WAS FRESHWATER FLOODING.
9:59:26AM TWO DIFFERENT STORMS, TWO DIFFERENT CAUSES.
9:59:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD JUST ASK MAYBE STAFF -- SORRY TO
9:59:32AM MOVE FAST BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO CUT ME OFF AT FIVE
9:59:34AM MINUTES, I WOULD JUST ASK STAFF, DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT
9:59:38AM NOW, BUT MAYBE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO START THE
9:59:41AM PROCESS TO LOOK AT SURGE AND WHICH DEPARTMENT WOULD DO IT
9:59:44AM AND HOW WE WOULD GET THAT STARTED.
9:59:45AM ONE PIECE OF FEEDBACK WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THEY
9:59:48AM BELIEVE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVE CAUSED WATER TO FLOW IN
9:59:53AM DIFFERENT WAYS.
9:59:54AM IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU CAN MEASURE WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR
9:59:56AM NOT?
9:59:58AM >> SO THE TERM NEW DEVELOPMENT IS VERY GENERAL, RIGHT?
10:00:03AM BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THE PERMITS THAT WERE ISSUED.
10:00:06AM WE LOOK AT THE PIPES AND THE PONDS AND INLETS AND WE
10:00:11AM INTEGRATE THEM INTO OUR MODELS.
10:00:12AM ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SHORTLY --
10:00:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: SIMPLE VERSION.
10:00:15AM IF A NEW HOUSE COMES IN AND ELEVATE THE NEW HOUSE BY EIGHT
10:00:19AM FEET AND THERE IS A HOUSE AT GROUND LEVEL, FOLKS HAVE
10:00:21AM COMPLAINED THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THE WATER IS FLOWING FROM
10:00:24AM THE NEW HOUSE INTO THEIR HOUSE WHERE THEY DIDN'T BEFORE WHEN
10:00:26AM IT WAS AT GROUND LEVEL.
10:00:27AM YOU SAY YOU'RE ABLE TO MEASURE FOR THAT TOO.
10:00:30AM >> IN CASES LIKE THAT, SUPPOSEDLY THE WAY THE SYSTEM SHOULD
10:00:34AM WORK IN OUR FLOW IS THAT PERMITS SHOULD NOT BE ISSUED FOR
10:00:37AM HOUSES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY FLOOD NEIGHBORS, RIGHT?
10:00:41AM SO WE LOOK AT THOSE PERMITS AND WE CAN VERIFY, YES, THEY
10:00:44AM DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO FLOOD THEIR
10:00:48AM NEIGHBORS.
10:00:48AM BUT IF WE SEE SOMETHING OFF WITH THAT, WE CAN DISCUSS IT
10:00:51AM WITH THE PERMITTING AGENCY.
10:00:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: ON YOUR LIST OF 46, SOME AREAS THAT WERE
10:00:56AM AFFECTED AND BEEN OUT WITH SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS, THANK YOU
10:01:00AM FOR DOING THAT.
10:01:01AM ONE IS THE COACHMAN AREA AND HELENE, JUST HALF A BLOCK,
10:01:08AM COUPLE OF BLOCKS FROM BAYSHORE.
10:01:09AM I DON'T SEE THAT ON THE 46.
10:01:10AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH STAFF BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE
10:01:13AM BEEN OUT, JEFF HAS BEEN OUT.
10:01:15AM COACHMAN, KNIGHTS, THERE ARE A FEW HOUSES, HARBORVIEW THERE
10:01:19AM ARE A FEW HOUSES THAT WERE FLOODED.
10:01:21AM I WOULD JUST ASK STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POCKETS THAT
10:01:26AM WE'VE SEEN THAT ACTUALLY WERE DAMAGED ARE INCLUDED IN THE
10:01:28AM 46.
10:01:28AM >> YEAH, COACHMAN, HELENE IS PART OF THE LOWER PENINSULA
10:01:31AM WATERSHED AND IS INCLUDED IN THE STUDY.
10:01:34AM IT WILL BE UPDATED.
10:01:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN DID YOU SAY THE STUDY WOULD BE DONE?
10:01:38AM >> FEBRUARY 2026 IS THE MODEL COMPLETION.
10:01:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: BIG QUESTION COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR, ANY
10:01:43AM CHANCE YOU ALL COULD THROW OUT SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS IN THE
10:01:46AM MEANTIME SO WE CAN PROTECT PEOPLE IN THE CURRENT STORMS?
10:01:50AM >> THE MODEL COMPLETION IS 2026.
10:01:53AM THE PROJECTS WILL BE IDENTIFIED I BELIEVE IN SEPTEMBER,
10:01:58AM 2026.
10:01:58AM IN THE MEANTIME, IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC ISSUE REGARDING THE
10:02:03AM PUMP STATION, I BELIEVE CITY STAFF IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT
10:02:06AM THAT.
10:02:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK PUMP STATIONS, WHAT I OBSERVED, PUMP
10:02:09AM STATIONS ARE A SMALL PART OF THE ISSUE OF THE FLOODING AND
10:02:13AM ALSO THE PUMP STATION ISSUES ARE DIFFERENT.
10:02:15AM SOME AREAS THEY NEED GENERATORS.
10:02:19AM SOME DID.
10:02:20AM PUMPS WEREN'T STRONG ENOUGH.
10:02:22AM IF YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:02:24AM PEOPLE HAVE REBUILT HOUSES AND DON'T WANT TO GET FLOODED
10:02:27AM AGAIN.
10:02:28AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I ALONG WITH SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS
10:02:31AM AT THE COUNTY'S MEETING AT JAN PLATT LIBRARY.
10:02:34AM JEFF DeBOSIER WERE THERE.
10:02:37AM WE HAD A LOT OF ANGRY CONSTITUENTS AND WE WERE ABLE TO SEND
10:02:40AM THEM OVER TO THEM.
10:02:40AM THEY HANDLED IT VERY PROFESSIONALLY.
10:02:43AM THANK YOU TO THEM FOR DISCUSSING THE DETAILS WITH
10:02:45AM CONSTITUENTS ON IT.
10:02:46AM BUT THE FEEDBACK THAT CONSTITUENTS HEARD WHEN THEY TALKED TO
10:02:50AM THE COUNTY PEOPLE WAS THE COUNTY SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY
10:02:55AM ANSWERS ABOUT THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY HAD NOT SHARED THE
10:02:57AM CITY'S DATA WITH THEM.
10:02:59AM IS THERE ANYBODY WHO KNOWS THE STATUS OF THAT?
10:03:01AM ARE WE SHARING THE DATA?
10:03:03AM IF NOT, WHEN WILL WE SHARE THE DATA?
10:03:05AM IF THE COUNTY IS DOING THE COUNTYWIDE STUDY AND RIGHT NOW
10:03:07AM THEY ARE TELLING CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY
10:03:10AM ANSWERS FOR THE CITY, SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT?
10:03:14AM >> THE CITY DID GET A REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY'S CONSULTANT
10:03:18AM THAT WAS CONDUCTING THESE AND WE'RE SHARING DATA WITH THEM
10:03:21AM AND VICE VERSA.
10:03:22AM >> YUAN LI, STORMWATER.
10:03:27AM WE DID SHARE ALL THE AVAILABLE INFORMATION FROM THE CITY TO
10:03:29AM THE COUNTY CONSULTANT BLACK & VEATCH.
10:03:32AM CITY STAFF HAVE ATTENDED THREE OUT OF THE EIGHT PUBLIC
10:03:38AM ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS.
10:03:40AM THE TWO WERE IN DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.
10:03:42AM MOSTLY COVERED SOUTH TAMPA.
10:03:44AM AND ONE IN NORTH TAMPA AREA, FOREST HILLS AND UNIVERSITY
10:03:49AM AREA.
10:03:50AM WE HAVE SHARED AVAILABLE INFORMATION WITH THEM.
10:03:53AM AND ALSO, WE HAVE COORDINATE WITH THE COUNTY REGARDING THE
10:04:02AM FUTURE.
10:04:03AM FOR EXAMPLE, THE NORTH TAMPA -- AND ALSO AT THE POND SYSTEM,
10:04:11AM REALLY IS A JOINT SYSTEM BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
10:04:16AM WE HAVE TO BE IN A COORDINATING PATTERN IN WORKING WITH THE
10:04:20AM COUNTY TO IDENTIFY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
10:04:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:04:24AM THE LAST THING, YOU MENTIONED 46 PUBLIC MEETINGS, YOU KNOW
10:04:27AM THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, A LOT OF TIMES ENGINEERING FIRMS WILL
10:04:31AM HOLD A CHARRETTE OR PUBLIC MEETING AND SEND OUT A NOTICE.
10:04:34AM FIVE PEOPLE WILL SHOW UP.
10:04:36AM WE SAY, WELL, WE GAVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE.
10:04:38AM AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, 30 PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THE PLAN
10:04:41AM AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE PROPOSED TONIGHT.
10:04:44AM AND WE'VE GOTTEN TWO, THREE HUNDRED CALLS OF ANGRY PEOPLE
10:04:48AM SAYING THEY DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT IT.
10:04:50AM AS YOU ALL ARE DOING THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, PLEASE MAKE SURE
10:04:53AM YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT CONSULTANT WHO
10:04:55AM KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
10:04:56AM IDEALLY YOU WOULD WORK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:04:58AM ASSOCIATIONS.
10:04:59AM THAN, THE UMBRELLA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SHOULD BE AWARE
10:05:02AM AND HELP.
10:05:03AM BUT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS CAN HELP GET PEOPLE OUT.
10:05:06AM WHAT WE NEED IN THE SHORT TERM IS TO ALLAY FEARS THAT THE
10:05:10AM CITY IS DOING THINGS.
10:05:11AM THE CITY IS WORKING ON IT, TRYING TO COME UP WITH SHORT-TERM
10:05:14AM AND LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS, SYSTEMIC SOLUTIONS.
10:05:16AM THE OTHER THING IS, WE DON'T WANT AT THE END FOR FOLKS TO
10:05:20AM SAY, HEY, I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THIS.
10:05:22AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO COME, THAT'S UP
10:05:24AM TO THEM.
10:05:25AM BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THEY ARE
10:05:27AM INVITED AND INVITED TO GIVE INPUT.
10:05:29AM THANK YOU.
10:05:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:05:31AM THEN WE'LL FOLLOW THAT BY PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:05:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
10:05:37AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:05:38AM I WANTED TO BUILD ON WHAT WAS SAID.
10:05:41AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT THE BLACK & VEATCH STUDY.
10:05:44AM I HAVE HEARD THE SAME THING AS WELL IN TERMS OF THE CITY
10:05:47AM WORKING WITH THEM.
10:05:48AM I'M SURE THAT YOU GUYS 100% ARE WORKING WITH THEM,
10:05:51AM ET CETERA.
10:05:51AM IT'S JUST LIKE THIS STUDY IS SOMETHING THAT THIS REVIEW IS
10:05:55AM SOMETHING THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE REALLY, REALLY RELYING A
10:05:59AM LOT UPON BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TELLING THEM FOR A LONG TIME
10:06:01AM THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A STUDY THAT LOOKS AT WHAT HAPPENED
10:06:05AM IN 2024.
10:06:06AM SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS GIVEN BECAUSE GOD
10:06:09AM FORBID, BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE FINISHED PRETTY FAST.
10:06:13AM THEY ARE MOVING WITH VIGOR.
10:06:14AM AND IF ANY PIECE OF INFORMATION IS MISSING, WE'LL HAVE TO
10:06:19AM OPEN IT BACK UP AND MAKE SURE THEY GET THAT INFORMATION,
10:06:22AM BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:06:25AM I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF NORTH TAMPA.
10:06:27AM FOR THEM, THIS IS EVERYTHING.
10:06:29AM THERE IS A LOT OF MULTIFACETED PARTS ON POST-STORM RECOVERY.
10:06:33AM THAT INCLUDES FINDING OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
10:06:35AM THAT INCLUDES HAVING A LONG-TERM PLAN, ASSISTANCE TO PEOPLE
10:06:38AM THAT NEED IT AND SO FORTH.
10:06:40AM TWO THINGS.
10:06:41AM IN TERMS OF THE LONG-TERM PLAN, THE BIG THING WE TALK ABOUT
10:06:45AM IN THE NORTH TAMPA AREA ARE THE PUMPS AND PUMP GENERATORS.
10:06:50AM THERE ARE AREAS THAT HAVE LONG-TERM, MORE ROBUST
10:06:52AM INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS.
10:06:54AM FOR THE NORTH TAMPA AREA, WHETHER IT'S FOREST HILLS, WHETHER
10:06:57AM IT'S UNIVERSITY AREA, WHETHER IT'S -- DISTRICT, DO YOU FEEL
10:07:01AM SOME SORT OF LONG-TERM INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT OR PROJECT
10:07:05AM WOULD BE NECESSARY, OR IS THE PROPER EQUIPPING OF THE PUMPS
10:07:11AM SUFFICIENT AT THIS TIME?
10:07:13AM >> THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION, AND I'M GOING TO
10:07:17AM PREFACE BY SAYING IT IS A LITTLE BIT TOO EARLY FOR US TO
10:07:20AM GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
10:07:21AM BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:07:23AM ONE, WE ARE GOING TO BE USING ANY AND EVERY INFORMATION
10:07:26AM THAT'S GOING TO BE GENERATED BY THE STUDY THAT YOU MENTIONED
10:07:30AM BEFORE WITH THE COUNTY'S CONSULTANT.
10:07:32AM AND ALSO, I HAVE TO ALSO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO REMIND PEOPLE
10:07:39AM THAT WE CANNOT SOLVE FLOODING PROBLEMS FROM HURRICANES.
10:07:43AM NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THAT.
10:07:44AM IT'S VERY HARD, TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW, IT'S JUST NOT
10:07:50AM POSSIBLE.
10:07:51AM WE CAN HELP WITH IT.
10:07:52AM WE CAN ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE FLOODING, WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER
10:07:55AM BY EXPANDING SYSTEM, HAVING THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE IN
10:07:58AM PLACE, BUT WHEN WE'RE HIT WITH A DISASTER LIKE WE DID LAST
10:08:01AM YEAR, ALL WE CAN DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE
10:08:04AM SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO RECOVER QUICKLY AND GET PEOPLE BACK ON
10:08:08AM THEIR LIVES.
10:08:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:08:11AM ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN'T PROMISE TO OVERCOME NATURE AND
10:08:14AM EVERYTHING.
10:08:15AM BUT IN TERMS OF A LONG-TERM INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSITY, A
10:08:19AM LARGER PROJECT IN NORTH TAMPA, I KNOW THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING
10:08:22AM THAT BLACK & VEATCH, THEIR REVIEW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS
10:08:27AM MULTIFACETED THAT ALSO INCLUDES LONG-TERM FINDINGS IN TERMS
10:08:32AM OF THE CITY AND COUNTY, THAT INCLUDES TEMPLE TERRACE, THAT
10:08:34AM INCLUDES PLANT CITY, NEED TO DO TO PROPERLY INVEST IN THE
10:08:38AM INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE CAN HAVE A VERY FRANK DISCUSSION WITH
10:08:40AM TAXPAYERS.
10:08:40AM LIKE YOU SAID, WE CAN'T PREVENT FOR EVERYTHING, BUT WE
10:08:43AM SHOULD USE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CAPABILITY TO
10:08:46AM MITIGATE THE HARM OF HURRICANES, FLOODING AND SO FORTH TO
10:08:52AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:08:53AM NORTH TAMPA AREA IS UNIQUE.
10:08:55AM I LIVE IN ZONE X.
10:08:56AM PROBABLY NOT PROPER TO CALL IT ANYWHERE IS A FLOOD ZONE, BUT
10:09:00AM ZONE X WHERE THE RISK OF FLOODING IS VERY, VERY MINIMAL,
10:09:04AM BELOW MINIMAL, I'M GETTING FLOOD INSURANCE FOR THIS YEAR,
10:09:07AM RIGHT?
10:09:07AM JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT I SAW LAST YEAR.
10:09:10AM I'VE NEVER HAD FLOOD INSURANCE.
10:09:12AM I'M GETTING IT RIGHT NOW, IN FACT.
10:09:13AM I'M GETTING IT FOR THIS YEAR.
10:09:17AM GOOD QUESTIONS.
10:09:18AM QUESTION, JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, I KNOW TO VERIFY
10:09:22AM THAT NEW TAMPA, A LOT OF THEIR DRAINAGE BASINS ARE FUNDED
10:09:27AM AND OPERATED BY THEIR CDDs OUT THERE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING
10:09:32AM THAT WE, I LIVE OUT THERE, PAY FOR, WHICH IS WHY CERTAIN
10:09:37AM TAXES FOR STORMWATER, 33647 IS NOT PAYING TO BECAUSE WE PAY
10:09:42AM INTO OUR CDD, CORRECT?
10:09:44AM >> CORRECT.
10:09:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.
10:09:47AM I DON'T WANT NEW TAMPA TO LOOK AT THAT AND GO WHAT'S UP.
10:09:50AM THAT'S IMPORTANT.
10:09:51AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:09:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:09:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:54AM YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT MADE ME REMEMBER AN ARTICLE I READ
10:09:56AM FROM 2017.
10:09:58AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE ATLANTIC OR THE WASHINGTON POST,
10:10:00AM AS IRMA.
10:10:01AM HURRICANE IRMA WAS APPROACHING FLORIDA.
10:10:03AM IT SAID YOU CAN'T BEAT MOTHER NATURE.
10:10:06AM TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN FLORIDA AS A WHOLE SAYING,
10:10:09AM YOU KNOW, WE TAKE A NATURAL HABIT AND IT'S BUILD, BUILD,
10:10:14AM BUILD.
10:10:15AM THIS WEEK, MY WIFE TELLS ME THAT ALL I TALK ABOUT IS WORK.
10:10:20AM LAST NIGHT I TOOK A BREAK AND I SAID WHY DON'T WE GO GET ICE
10:10:25AM CREAM.
10:10:25AM WE WENT DOWN TO BAY TO BAY TO AN ICE CREAM SHOP.
10:10:28AM BUT I TOOK THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE THROUGH THE
10:10:31AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPECIFICALLY DOWN A FEW STREETS.
10:10:33AM I SAID LOOK AT ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT.
10:10:35AM IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE -- LOOK AT THESE BEAUTIFUL HOUSES, BUT
10:10:38AM LOOK AT THE VERY FEW RANCH-STYLE HOMES THERE FROM THE
10:10:42AM 1950s AND '60s.
10:10:44AM NEXT TO THEM THEY HAVE THESE MASSIVE HOMES, MASSIVE HOMES.
10:10:47AM BEAUTIFUL HOMES, BUT I GO, WHERE DOES THE WATER GO?
10:10:51AM THEY USED TO HAVE FRONT YARDS AND BACKYARDS.
10:10:55AM NOW IT'S BIG HOUSE NEXT TO BIG HOUSE.
10:10:58AM IT'S NOT JUST YOU CAN'T BEAT MOTHER NATURE.
10:11:01AM YOU SAID WE DO WHAT WE CAN WITH THE TECHNOLOGY TO COMBAT
10:11:05AM THAT.
10:11:06AM HURRICANE IS A CATASTROPHIC EVENT BUT HOW DO WE RECOVER AS
10:11:09AM QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
10:11:11AM THAT'S FINE.
10:11:11AM TECHNOLOGY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
10:11:13AM AS WE THINK AS A COUNCIL FOR BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT AND
10:11:15AM DENSITY, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS COMING UP TONIGHT,
10:11:18AM WHAT I SAW LAST NIGHT AND WHAT I SHOWED MY WIFE, IS PEOPLE
10:11:23AM COMPLAIN, BUT ALSO LOOK AT THE -- WE ARE A VICTIM OF OUR OWN
10:11:29AM SUCCESS.
10:11:30AM YES, PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE AND BUILDING, BUT NEIGHBORHOODS
10:11:32AM ARE BEING TRANSFORMED.
10:11:34AM IN THAT, YOU ARE ELIMINATING THE PERVIOUS SURFACE, REPLACING
10:11:38AM WITH BIG DRIVEWAYS, BIG HOMES, VERY SMALL BACKYARDS.
10:11:41AM THE WATER HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.
10:11:43AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, SPECIFICALLY THE SOUTHERN PENINSULA,
10:11:46AM IT'S SURROUNDED BY WATER.
10:11:48AM WHEN YOU HAVE STORM SURGE, AND WHEN YOU HAVE CATEGORY 5,
10:11:51AM CATEGORY 4, THE WATER HAS GOT TO GO SOMEWHERE.
10:11:53AM AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO YOU CAN'T BEAT MADAM CHAIR.
10:11:56AM YOU CAN BUILD HIGH, CHANGE THE ELEVATION, THAT WATER WILL GO
10:11:59AM AND AFFECT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND SOMEBODY ELSE THAT DIDN'T
10:12:02AM FLOOD BEFORE.
10:12:03AM IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.
10:12:04AM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT'S
10:12:08AM COMING TO TAMPA AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE MOVE HERE AND THAT
10:12:11AM DENSITY INCREASES, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND KNOW AT THE END
10:12:16AM OF THE DAY, THAT WATER IS GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE.
10:12:19AM THAT HURRICANE, WHAT HAPPENED LAST OCTOBER SHOULD BE A
10:12:22AM LESSON TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT WAS BACK TO BACK.
10:12:25AM WHAT HAPPENED ON DAVIS ISLANDS, WHICH WAS UNDERWATER
10:12:27AM COMPLETELY.
10:12:28AM ONCE THE ROADS WERE OPEN, I WENT THERE TO DRIVE AROUND, AND
10:12:32AM IT WAS LIKE AN ARMAGEDDON KIND OF SCENARIO.
10:12:35AM IT WAS CATASTROPHIC.
10:12:38AM PEOPLE LOOKED LIKE ZOMBIES BECAUSE THEY WERE PUTTING THEIR
10:12:42AM LIVES ON THEIR FRONT LAWN.
10:12:44AM WEST TAMPA ALONG THE RIVER WHERE THE MARTIN LUTHER KING
10:12:48AM BRIDGE IS AT, HOUSES WERE DEVASTATED.
10:12:50AM SAME THING.
10:12:50AM THEIR LIFE IS -- I KNOW IT'S JUST MATERIAL THINGS, BUT AT
10:12:54AM THE SAME TIME, IT'S A WAKE-UP CALL TO EVERYBODY AS WE MOVE
10:12:58AM FORWARD AS A CITY AND AS A CITY COUNCIL, BE MINDFUL OF NEW
10:13:03AM -- DEVELOPMENT IS GOOD.
10:13:04AM BUT BE CAREFUL WITH IT BECAUSE LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS THAT
10:13:08AM HAVE BEEN CREATED.
10:13:09AM YOU TALK TO THE OLD-TIMERS, YOU TALK TO MY MOTHER WHO HAS
10:13:12AM BEEN HERE SINCE 1961.
10:13:14AM IT NEVER USED TO FLOOD THERE.
10:13:16AM THERE ARE ALWAYS THE HOT SPOTS.
10:13:18AM YEAH, ALWAYS IN FLOODING AS FAR AS I REMEMBER.
10:13:20AM BUT AREAS THAT NEVER HAD -- IT'S NOT STORM SURGE, BUT IT'S A
10:13:24AM SUMMER RAIN.
10:13:27AM JULY, HEAVY RAINS, WHATEVER IT IS.
10:13:30AM BUT THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BEFORE.
10:13:33AM AGAIN, WE NEED TO BE VERY MINDFUL MOVING FORWARD.
10:13:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
10:13:40AM APPLIED SCIENCES, WHAT CITY ARE YOU ALL OUT OF?
10:13:43AM >> WE WERE FOUNDED RIGHT HERE IN TAMPA, AND WE'RE BASED
10:13:47AM DOWNTOWN TAMPA SINCE 2005.
10:13:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE SEVEN PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS
10:13:53AM TOPIC OF STORMWATER MASTER PLAN.
10:13:54AM STARTING WITH SANDY SANCHEZ, STEPHANIE POYNOR, VALERIE
10:13:59AM BULLOCK, STEVE MICHELINI, YVONNE FERRELLI, PAM CANNELLA AND
10:14:05AM FRAN TATE.
10:14:06AM NO PROBLEM.
10:14:08AM I WILL DELETE HER.
10:14:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:14:16AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:14:17AM YOU KNOW, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME COMMENTS AND
10:14:22AM CONCERNS.
10:14:23AM I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DISTRICT NUMBER 47 ON THEIR
10:14:28AM MAP BECAUSE IT WAS SOG AND NOG ALL LUMPED TOGETHER WHICH
10:14:32AM WERE NOT THE SAME.
10:14:34AM IF WE WERE THE SAME, WE WOULD BE IN THE SAME WATER DISTRICT
10:14:36AM FOR THE CITY BECAUSE WE'RE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS.
10:14:39AM SO I'M WONDERING WHY, SOME OF THE PLACES THAT TOOK THE WORST
10:14:45AM FLOODING ARE LUMPED INTO ALTOGETHER INSTEAD OF BEING TAKEN
10:14:50AM AS THE DISTRICTS WHERE THEY WERE FLOODED.
10:14:52AM AND THE STORMWATER MAP THAT I SEE FOR THE CITY HAS US BROKEN
10:14:57AM DOWN INTO FOUR OR FIVE MAPS.
10:14:58AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NUMBER 47 IS BROKEN DOWN
10:15:01AM APPROPRIATELY.
10:15:02AM BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE MORE ATTENTION, NOT LESS.
10:15:07AM LET'S SEE, SOG HAS BEEN REPORTING FOR YEARS AND NEVER, EVER
10:15:13AM MANAGED TO GET STUFF ON THE STORMWATER ADVISORY LIST.
10:15:17AM SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THOSE REPORTS ARE GETTING TO THESE
10:15:20AM FOLKS.
10:15:20AM IF THEY DON'T GET THEM, PLEASE REACH OUT.
10:15:24AM I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THEM,
10:15:26AM BECAUSE WE REALLY, REALLY NEED THOSE TO BE PUT IN.
10:15:29AM CARROLL ANN AND I HAVE WORKED FOR YEARS TO MAKE SURE THE
10:15:33AM PEOPLE SOUTH OF GANDY WERE REPORTING FLOODING EVERY TIME IT
10:15:36AM HAPPENED.
10:15:36AM YET IT'S NOT ON THE STORMWATER ADVISORY LIST.
10:15:38AM SURGE, I MEAN, SURGE IS CONNECTED TO RAINWATER.
10:15:45AM YOU CAN'T GET A SURGE WITHOUT RAINWATER.
10:15:48AM SORRY.
10:15:49AM IT DOES HAPPEN.
10:15:50AM DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LOT.
10:15:52AM I'M SO INTERESTED THAT THESE GUYS ARE OUT HERE FRONT LOADING
10:15:58AM THIS STUDY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THE COASTAL AREA ACTION PLAN
10:16:03AM FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, AND IT STILL HASN'T GOTTEN HERE.
10:16:07AM IT INCLUDES WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN WORK ON SOME OF THE
10:16:10AM FLOODING, TO INCLUDE BUILDING ON PILLARS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND
10:16:15AM MR. MICHELINI WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OPEN GARAGES.
10:16:18AM OPEN PARKING FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
10:16:20AM I'M ALL FOR THAT IF WE'RE BUILDING ON PILLARS, BECAUSE IT
10:16:24AM MEANS MORE PERMEABLE SURFACE AND LESS FLOODING.
10:16:27AM FILL DIRT IS NOT GOOD.
10:16:28AM FEMA SAYS IT'S NOT GOOD.
10:16:30AM THAT COASTAL AREA ACTION PLAN ALSO INCLUDES THINGS THAT
10:16:33AM HOMEOWNERS CAN DO TO HELP WITH THE FLOODING, TO MITIGATE THE
10:16:37AM PROBLEM.
10:16:38AM I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THE CITY ACTUALLY GAVE THE DATA TO
10:16:42AM THEM.
10:16:42AM WHEN I WENT TO THAT MEETING, I WAS HOT AND HEAVY BECAUSE
10:16:45AM THEY HAD NO DATA FOR THE CITY.
10:16:46AM I TALKED TO MR. PHELPS WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THE CITY, AND HE
10:16:49AM SAID THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE IT YET.
10:16:52AM HE ALSO -- THE HEAD OF STORMWATER FOR THE COUNTY ALSO TOLD
10:16:55AM ME THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE -- THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE
10:16:59AM ABILITY TO MAKE THOSE LITTLE COLORED SPLOTCHES OUTSIDE -- I
10:17:03AM HAD THE MAP.
10:17:04AM I HAVE IT WITH ME.
10:17:05AM BUT THEY HAD THE LITTLE SPLOTCH AREAS WHERE THEY HAD THE
10:17:08AM SEVERE FLOODING DURING THE STORMS, BUT THEY SAID THAT THE
10:17:10AM CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT.
10:17:12AM WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE CORRECT DATA?
10:17:14AM WE HAVE AS MUCH FLOODING, MORE FLOODING THAN THE COUNTY
10:17:17AM DOES.
10:17:17AM THANK YOU.
10:17:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:17:18AM MS. BULLOCK.
10:17:27AM >> ONCE AGAIN, VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:17:29AM I THINK WE CAN WORK ON PREVENTIVE MEASUREMENT BECAUSE
10:17:35AM HURRICANE SEASON IS COMING UP NOW.
10:17:37AM I HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE PLANS FOR THE FUTURE AND EVERYTHING,
10:17:40AM AND THIS STUDY HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS, AND WE
10:17:43AM WON'T BE READY UNTIL LIKE '26 OR '27.
10:17:47AM HURRICANE SEASON IS COMING UP I BELIEVE JUNE START HURRICANE
10:17:50AM SEASON.
10:17:50AM HAVE ANYBODY DID PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE?
10:17:53AM HAVE ANYBODY WENT OUT TO THE DITCHES TO DREDGE THEM?
10:17:56AM HAVE ANYBODY WENT TO THE PUMPS TO TRY THEM TO SEE IF THE
10:18:01AM GENERATORS ARE WORKING?
10:18:01AM SEE IF THE PUMP HAVE HAD MAINTENANCE DONE ON IT?
10:18:05AM AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
10:18:09AM MOST WASTEWATER PLANT AND DRINKING WATER PLANTS, YOU SEE
10:18:13AM GROUND STORAGE TANKS.
10:18:15AM THEY CAN HOLD UP TO ONE TO ONE AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS OF
10:18:19AM WATER.
10:18:19AM IF WE DON'T HAVE NOWHERE FOR THE STORMWATER TO GO, WHY NOT
10:18:23AM INVEST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE?
10:18:24AM WE CAN GET A GROUNDWATER TANK.
10:18:26AM LET IT GO THERE.
10:18:27AM THANK YOU.
10:18:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MS. BULLOCK.
10:18:31AM MR. MICHELINI.
10:18:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:18:39AM I SENT YOU AN E-MAIL WITH A NUMBER OF POINTS.
10:18:42AM THEY REFER TO ITEM 2, 3, AND 4.
10:18:46AM BUT I'LL SEPARATE THEM OUT.
10:18:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST FOR ITEM 2 TODAY.
10:18:52AM >> YES, UNDERSTAND.
10:18:52AM THE STORMWATER MAINTENANCE, THE ISSUES ARE STORM SURGE AS
10:19:00AM WELL AS FRESHWATER FLOODING.
10:19:02AM I BELIEVE THAT THE CONSULTANT PREPARED A PLAN FOR DAVIS
10:19:06AM ISLAND SHOWING BACKFLOW PREVENTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT
10:19:11AM ENTER THE RIVERS AND BAY.
10:19:12AM THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:19:18AM ALSO CONSIDER USING PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS AS TEMPORARY
10:19:23AM STORAGE RETENTION AREAS DURING SEASONAL STORMS AS WELL AS
10:19:29AM CONSIDER REDEVELOPING RECREATION AREAS INCLUDING UNDERGROUND
10:19:33AM RETENTION SO THAT YOU DIVERT THE WATER AWAY FROM THESE
10:19:36AM NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE BUSINESSES AND YOU KEEP IT THERE AT
10:19:41AM LEAST TEMPORARILY UNTIL IT OVERFLOWS INTO THE SYSTEM.
10:19:44AM THE ISSUE REGARDING PALMA CEIA PINES AND PARKLAND WAS
10:19:50AM OFF-SITE WATER GOING INTO THOSE AREAS THAT NEEDS TO BE
10:19:53AM DIVERTED AND AT LEAST SOME ATTENTION TO HOW DOES IT GET TO
10:20:01AM THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.
10:20:03AM IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.
10:20:04AM IT GOES OVER THE CURBS.
10:20:06AM IT FLOODED DOWN IN PARKLAND AND WENT FURTHER SOUTH.
10:20:09AM SO WE TALKED ABOUT PUMPS AND THE NECESSITY FOR PUMPS.
10:20:15AM GRAVITY SYSTEMS WON'T WORK IN STORM SURGE.
10:20:18AM THEY SIMPLY DON'T.
10:20:19AM I KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE.
10:20:22AM I KNOW IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE THAT THE CITY REALLY DOESN'T
10:20:24AM LIKE, BUT PUMPS AND RETENTION AS WELL AS REDUNDANT PUMP
10:20:29AM STATIONS WITH POWER AND POWER GENERATORS, WHEN POWER GOES
10:20:33AM OUT ARE IMPORTANT ELEMENTS.
10:20:35AM THE BACKFLOW PREVENTION SYSTEM IS NECESSARY AND ALL THE
10:20:42AM RETROFITTING OF THE SYSTEMS THAT GO INTO THE BAY AND GO INTO
10:20:46AM THE RIVER SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AND THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN
10:20:48AM THEIR STUDY.
10:20:49AM THIS STORMWATER OUTLETS HAVE GOT TO BE LOOKED AT INCLUDING
10:20:56AM THE MAINTENANCE.
10:20:57AM I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM.
10:21:00AM IT'S IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE THESE OTHER ALTERNATIVES AND THEIR
10:21:05AM PLANS, INCLUDING THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE DITCHES THAT HAVE
10:21:08AM NOT BEEN MAINTAINED OVER THE TIME.
10:21:09AM I'LL RESERVE MY TIME.
10:21:12AM THANK YOU.
10:21:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
10:21:15AM NEXT IS MS. FERRELLI.
10:21:18AM DID I SAY IT CORRECTLY?
10:21:26AM >> YES.
10:21:26AM YVONNE FERRELLI ON BEHALF OF PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
10:21:31AM THANK YOU.
10:21:31AM FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. ARAJ FOR BEING HERE
10:21:37AM TODAY.
10:21:37AM APPLIED SCIENCE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR UNDERSTANDING.
10:21:40AM SECONDLY, IT DOES CONCERN ME VERY MUCH THAT STORMWATER IS
10:21:46AM RAIN ONLY AS MR. BHIDE SAID, THAT CAN'T BE.
10:21:51AM IT IS ALL-ENCOMPASSING PHENOMENON THAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE
10:21:56AM SUFFERING FROM.
10:21:56AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT PALMA CEIA PINES WATER DOES RUN
10:21:59AM INTO PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:22:00AM WE'VE KNOWN THAT FOR SOME TIME.
10:22:03AM AND YET THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT BACK IN
10:22:06AM 2024 AS IT WAS DEVELOPED ORIGINALLY, DID NOT ACCOMMODATE FOR
10:22:10AM THAT WATER COMING FROM PALMA CEIA PINES TO KEEP OUT OF
10:22:15AM PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:22:18AM THAT PLAN WAS TO ALLOW THAT WATER TO DRAIN INTO PARKLAND
10:22:21AM ESTATES AND TAKE CARE OF IT WITHIN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:22:25AM AND THAT'S WRONG.
10:22:26AM I WOULD LIKE APPLIED SCIENCE AND THE CITY TO REEVALUATE AND
10:22:31AM KEEP THAT STORMWATER OUT OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:22:34AM I'D ALSO LIKE TO HAVE A CONSIDERATION FOR THIS PROJECT TO
10:22:51AM REMAIN OUT OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:22:53AM 10 BY 12 PROPOSED BOX CULVERTS ARE TOO LARGE FOR OUR
10:22:59AM COMMUNITY.
10:22:59AM THANK YOU.
10:23:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. CANNELLA IS THE NEXT SPEAKER FOLLOWED
10:23:04AM BY MS. TATE.
10:23:07AM PAM CANNELLA.
10:23:17AM YES, MA'AM.
10:23:23AM >> I HAVE PICTURES.
10:23:24AM I WANT YOU TO KNOW I'VE DONE MY OWN RESEARCH AND EVALUATION.
10:23:31AM IT'S ALL DONE BY WALKING THE STREETS.
10:23:34AM THE WHOLE AREA, EVEN IN THE RAIN.
10:23:36AM I'M TOLD THAT THERE'S NO MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE, BUT I HEAR
10:23:42AM TALK TODAY ABOUT ALL THESE CITY PROJECTS AND THEY COST A LOT
10:23:45AM MORE.
10:23:45AM I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT SURGE.
10:23:49AM WELL, WATER TRAVELS TO THE LOWEST POINT.
10:23:52AM SO IF YOUR STORMWATER DRAINS AND DITCHES ARE ALREADY FILLED
10:23:56AM WITH WATER AND ALL THE PIPES, THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THE WATER
10:24:00AM TO GO EXCEPT DOWN THE ROAD AND INTO THE HOUSES.
10:24:05AM BEFORE THAT SURGE, YOU CAN SEE IT COMING UP, THAT DITCH WAS
10:24:09AM ALREADY FILLED WITH WATER, AND THEIR WHOLE SYSTEM WAS
10:24:13AM ALREADY FILLED WITH WATER.
10:24:14AM I'M ALONE TODAY WITH ALL THE PICTURES.
10:24:20AM I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SHOW THEM ALL.
10:24:23AM THOSE ARE PUMPS.
10:24:29AM ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY -- EXCUSE ME, LET ME START OVER.
10:24:33AM THE CITY OF TAMPA'S EXISTING STORMWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS
10:24:36AM EXTENSIVE, COVERING ALL AREAS OF TAMPA.
10:24:39AM DUE TO NEGLECT, THE SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY MAINTAINED.
10:24:46AM OUR WHOLE SYSTEM NEEDS CLEANING, FIRST OF ALL.
10:24:50AM TRUST ME, YOUR NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBORS, ALL THE RESIDENTS
10:24:53AM WILL BE HAPPY TO SEE THOSE STORMWATER MAINTENANCE CREWS OUT
10:24:56AM THERE CLEANING THEIR DITCHES.
10:24:57AM ALONG THE EXPRESSWAY FROM PLATT TO WATROUS, HIDING UNDER
10:25:03AM TREES, BUSHES, TRASH, AND JUNK ARE STORMWATER OPEN DITCHES.
10:25:11AM CULVERTS, STORM DRAINS.
10:25:20AM BUT THEY HAVE BEEN SO NEGLECTED FOR SO LONG NOBODY CAN SEE
10:25:24AM THEM.
10:25:25AM I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU THE PICTURES.
10:25:34AM HERE IS A STORM DRAIN.
10:25:41AM YOU CAN SEE THE GRATE JUST BARELY.
10:25:43AM CULVERT.
10:25:49AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES, BUT IT'S THERE.
10:25:51AM ANYWAY THERE'S MORE, PLENTY MORE.
10:25:57AM ALL THE PICTURES SHOWING THEY ARE HIDDEN UNDERNEATH HERE.
10:26:01AM I DID DO A STUDY ON THE STORMWATER FLOW DOWN AUDUBON TO
10:26:07AM SWANN BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE WHERE THE WATER COLLECTS.
10:26:10AM I HAVE PICTURES OF THAT.
10:26:13AM HERE IS THE RETENTION POND ON HORATIO.
10:26:23AM FULL OF DEBRIS.
10:26:27AM AND THAT ALL GOES INTO THE PIPES.
10:26:28AM AND THE WATER CANNOT FLOW DOWN.
10:26:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MS. CANNELLA.
10:26:35AM YOU CAN SEND THOSE PICTURES TO US LIKE YOU HAVE IN THE PAST
10:26:38AM BY E-MAIL.
10:26:38AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:26:39AM GOOD MORNING, MS. TATE.
10:26:47AM >> YOU WANT ME TO HAND THEM AS THEY ARE?
10:26:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR THE RECORD, WE WILL ACCEPT THEM AND
10:26:51AM PUT THEM TOGETHER FOR YOU.
10:26:52AM IS MS. SANCHEZ RETURNING?
10:27:01AM IF NOT, MS. TATE WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER FOR ITEM 2.
10:27:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:27:11AM I WANT TO THANK THE STORMWATER CONSULTANT FOR TODAY'S
10:27:18AM PRESENTATION.
10:27:19AM I JUST ONLY WISH EAST TAMPA CRA COULD RECEIVE CONSULTANT
10:27:25AM PRESENTATIONS WHEN WE GET DEVELOPMENT OR PROJECTS IN OUR
10:27:27AM AREA.
10:27:28AM WE NORMALLY GET THE CITY PRESENTERS, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO
10:27:34AM HAVE JUST THE CONSULTANTS WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR PROJECTS AND
10:27:38AM OUR REDEVELOPMENT.
10:27:40AM TO ALL OF YOU, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL OF YOUR
10:27:44AM SUGGESTIONS TODAY TO THE STORMWATER CONSULTING TEAM.
10:27:48AM TO MR. BHIDE AND THE MOBILITY TEAM, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH
10:27:52AM FOR ALL OF THE REPAIRS IN THE JACKSON HEIGHTS AREA, ALL UP
10:27:56AM AND DOWN 34th, ALL UP AND DOWN, JUST ALL OVER, BECAUSE WE
10:28:01AM TOOK ON WATER AND WE DIDN'T -- I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:28:05AM THEY WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY AND VERY HARD ON ALL THOSE
10:28:09AM REPAIRS.
10:28:10AM THEY EVEN REPAIRED THOSE TWO RAILROAD TRACKS.
10:28:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. TATE, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE
10:28:17AM MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD?
10:28:18AM >> SORRY.
10:28:18AM THEY EVEN REPAIRED THE TWO RAILROAD TRACKS THAT YOU GO
10:28:21AM ACROSS ON 34th STREET AND SAY, OH, LORD, I HAVE $350 TIRES
10:28:26AM ON MY CAR, GOING TO BUST ONE GOING OVER THE TRACKS, THEY
10:28:31AM EVEN SMOOTHED THOSE OUT.
10:28:32AM MR. BHIDE AND YOUR TEAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:28:36AM AS THE AWESOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS SITTING RIGHT BEHIND ME
10:28:46AM ALWAYS SAYS, THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.
10:28:48AM JACKSON HEIGHTS IS HOLDING ITS BREATH FOR THE NEXT STORM TO
10:28:54AM SEE HOW WELL ALL OF THE REPAIRS HOLD UP.
10:28:57AM BUT WE'RE APPRECIATIVE FOR WHAT WAS DONE IN OUR AREA.
10:29:01AM THANK YOU.
10:29:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU'RE WELCOME.
10:29:03AM WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 3.
10:29:09AM MAINTENANCE PERFORMED ON OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.
10:29:15AM OUR CONSULTANTS ARE LEAVING.
10:29:18AM THANK YOU FOR COMING.
10:29:23AM >>VIK BHIDE: VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY, HERE FOR ITEM 3.
10:29:27AM ITEM NUMBER 3 WAS RELATED TO THE UPDATE ON MAINTENANCE.
10:29:38AM TYPICALLY, THESE WERE PER THE ORIGINAL MOTION PRESENTATION
10:29:43AM THAT WERE TO BE MADE EARLY IN THE MONTH.
10:29:46AM THIS WAS PUSHED TO MAY 22.
10:29:49AM I'M GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE WORK DONE IN APRIL,
10:29:53AM WHAT WE ANTICIPATED DOING IN MAY, AND AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE
10:29:57AM ARE AT WITH WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO IN MAY AS WELL.
10:30:00AM THE APRIL REPORT IS ALREADY ON OUR WEBSITE,
10:30:04AM TAMPA.GOV/MOBILITY, IF YOU SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN, PAVING
10:30:08AM AND STORMWATER REPORTS.
10:30:11AM AND THEN I WILL SPEAK TO THE BALANCE.
10:30:13AM BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME UPDATES, I'LL SHARE THIS FOR THE
10:30:17AM RECORD.
10:30:17AM AGAIN, THIS REPORT IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
10:30:27AM IN APRIL -- IS THAT STILL VISIBLE?
10:30:39AM >> YES.
10:30:39AM >>VIK BHIDE: GREAT.
10:30:41AM IN APRIL, WE HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORK THAT WAS DONE, OVER
10:30:53AM 250 CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND YOU SEE ALL OF THE NUMBERS IN
10:30:57AM TERMS --
10:30:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN WE GET ONE MORE COPY?
10:31:00AM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
10:31:01AM ABSOLUTELY.
10:31:01AM IN APRIL, THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF WORK DONE BY OUR TEAM.
10:31:20AM WE ARE WORKING SIX DAYS A WEEK, AND THIS IS A LIST OF ALL OF
10:31:24AM THE CALLS.
10:31:25AM THE CALLS FOR SERVICE IN APRIL TOTALED 185.
10:31:31AM THIS WOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE PREVIOUS MONTH'S REPORT.
10:31:42AM WE SAID HERE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WE WOULD WORK IN.
10:31:45AM MacFARLANE PARK, UNIVERSITY SQUARE AND OTHERS.
10:31:49AM AND THEN THE WORK ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE LISTED HERE AS WELL.
10:31:53AM SO WE'VE CLEANED OVER 2,000 LINEAR FEET OF DITCHES, GRADED
10:32:03AM THEM, RATHER.
10:32:04AM ALSO A DITCH GRADING CONTRACT.
10:32:06AM PRE-CON FOR IT ALREADY AND WE'LL HAVE THE SELECTION FOR IT
10:32:10AM COMING UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
10:32:12AM THAT IS THE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT COUNCIL MADE
10:32:16AM AVAILABLE SPECIFICALLY FOR DITCH GRADING.
10:32:18AM WE APPRECIATE THAT.
10:32:19AM THEN WORK ON PONDS, OVER 140 PONDS MOWED.
10:32:25AM 160 PONDS SPRAYED.
10:32:27AM THIS IS AN HERBICIDE TO MANAGE VEGETATION, AND WE ALSO USE
10:32:35AM FISH TO MANAGE VEGETATION IN THE PONDS, ALGAE MAY BE ABLE.
10:32:39AM CLEANED OVER 37,000 -- ALMOST 38,000 LINEAR FEET OF PIPES.
10:32:46AM 32 TONS OF DEBRIS REMOVED.
10:32:48AM 428 STRUCTURES, AND 20 OUTFALLS HAVE BEEN INSPECTED.
10:32:57AM WE CONTINUE TO DO WORK ON OUR PUMP STATIONS.
10:33:00AM WE ARE READY.
10:33:02AM WE HAVE VISITED EVERY PUMP STATION, TESTED THE SYSTEMS OUT
10:33:05AM THERE, MADE SURE THEY ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEW TEMPORARY
10:33:09AM GENERATORS THAT WE WILL BE PLACING.
10:33:13AM 24 HOURS BEFORE A STORM, THOSE GENERATORS ARE CURRENTLY HELD
10:33:16AM IN SUNBELT'S YARD AND THEY ARE LABELED BY EACH PUMP STATION.
10:33:22AM THIS IS FOR ALL BUT THE THREE WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE
10:33:26AM GENERATORS.
10:33:27AM WE HAVE AN ELECTRONIC FIRM ON BOARD, ICON, AND WE'VE GONE,
10:33:32AM AGAIN, TO EVERY PUMP STATION AND TESTED ALL OF THE
10:33:36AM ELECTRONICS OUT THERE AS WELL.
10:33:37AM WE HAVE AN SOP WHERE AFTER THE GENERATOR IS INSTALLED, 24
10:33:43AM HOURS BEFORE A STORM, IT WILL BE SWITCHED TO GENERATOR POWER
10:33:46AM AND POST-STORM, WE HAVE A FUELING PLAN FOR THE SAME AS WELL.
10:33:50AM I'D LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO LAMB AND ADRI AND THEIR
10:33:58AM TEAM, THEY HELPED WITH THIS BECAUSE THE GENERATOR CONTRACTS
10:34:01AM COME THROUGH THEM.
10:34:02AM THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT ACROSS THE BOARD.
10:34:04AM THE ELECTRONIC CONSULTANT IS WASTEWATER CONSULTANT, SO WE
10:34:07AM WERE ABLE TO USE THEIR CONTRACT IN THE INTERIM, BUT NOW WE
10:34:09AM HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM DIRECTLY.
10:34:11AM ALL RIGHT.
10:34:14AM MOVING ON, MAY WORK LOCATIONS.
10:34:18AM I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT AS
10:34:21AM WELL.
10:34:21AM IT'S IN THE PACKETS AS WELL.
10:34:23AM WE PLANNED IN APRIL OR AT THE END OF APRIL TO GO TO NORTH
10:34:27AM BON AIR, NORTH HYDE PARK, BAYSHORE GARDENS AND SOME OF THE
10:34:31AM NEIGHBORHOODS LISTED OUT HERE AND TO COMPLETE THE MONTHLY
10:34:35AM PUMP STATION INSPECTIONS AS WELL.
10:34:37AM THOSE ARE COMPLETED.
10:34:39AM CALLS FOR SERVICE, AGAIN, 813-274-3101.
10:34:46AM THIS REPORT IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON TAMPA.GOV/MOBILITY AT THE
10:34:49AM VERY BOTTOM IF YOU SCROLL DONE.
10:34:52AM FOR THE WORK I JUST DESCRIBED, SOME BEFORE/AFTER PICTURES.
10:34:58AM AGAIN, INLET CLEANING BEFORE AND AFTER.
10:35:02AM UNIVERSITY SQUARE, UNIVERSITY AREA.
10:35:07AM SAME AREA AGAIN, BEFORE-AND-AFTER PICTURES.
10:35:14AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON CAVE-IN REPAIRS.
10:35:20AM WE ALREADY ISSUED AN EMERGENCY AFFIDAVIT TO COMMENCE TO DO
10:35:24AM ABOUT A HUNDRED OF THESE CAVE-INS.
10:35:28AM THESE ARE THE LARGER CAVE-INS.
10:35:30AM WE ALREADY WORKED ON OVER 160 CAVE-INS SINCE OCTOBER, AND WE
10:35:34AM CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THAT LIST.
10:35:36AM BY THE END OF JULY, WE'LL BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED, BUT
10:35:40AM THESE ARE JUST PICTURES OF CAVE-IN REPAIRS.
10:35:43AM THERE ARE SOME GOOD VIDEOS ON THESE AS WELL THAT WERE
10:35:46AM REPORTED RECENTLY.
10:35:52AM AGAIN, DURING AND AFTER THE CAVE-IN REPAIR ITSELF.
10:35:55AM SOME OF THESE CAN BE VERY DEEP.
10:35:56AM THIS ONE IS NOT AS DEEP, COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING.
10:36:00AM CAN GO AS DEEP AS 12 FEET.
10:36:03AM INLET TOP REPAIRS, A LOT OF INLETS, IF THE AREA AROUND THEM
10:36:10AM GETS VERY SATURATED, IT MAY COLLAPSE AFTER MAJOR STORMS, AND
10:36:15AM WE'VE SEEN THAT CERTAINLY.
10:36:16AM SO WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF INLET REPAIRS AS WELL.
10:36:20AM AND THAT'S ALSO IN THE LIST OF THE WORK COMPLETED IN THE
10:36:26AM REPORT DURING AND AFTER.
10:36:32AM POND MAINTENANCE, THIS IS 109th AVENUE, FOREST HILLS, AND
10:36:39AM THESE ARE JUST OUTLET PIPES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AT THE
10:36:42AM POND.
10:36:43AM SO BEFORE, DURING, CLEARING OUT ALL THE DIRT IN THE AREA AND
10:36:48AM THEN REPAIRING THE CONCRETE PORTION THERE.
10:36:51AM AFTER.
10:36:54AM DITCH GRADING, THIS IS AT SWANN CIRCLE.
10:37:02AM THIS IS BEFORE.
10:37:05AM AGAIN, WITH DITCHES, ESTABLISH FLOW LINES, ENSURE THE DEPTH
10:37:10AM SO THAT CAPACITY, BOTH FLOW AND CAPACITY AND THEN CONSIDER
10:37:16AM THE EDGES OF THE DITCHES.
10:37:18AM AND THAT'S AFTER.
10:37:21AM SO WORK COMPLETED TO DATE IN MAY, THIS IS A LIST OF
10:37:33AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:37:34AM WE'VE NOT GONE TO ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE SAID WE
10:37:37AM WOULD, BUT WE STILL HAVE A FEW DAYS IN THE MONTH LEFT, SO
10:37:40AM WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF IT.
10:37:43AM BUT OVER 63 FALLEN TREES REMOVED FROM STORMWATER PONDS AND
10:37:48AM DITCHES.
10:37:48AM REPAIRED 205 FEET OF FENCE.
10:37:52AM WE'VE BEEN INSTALLING NEW CAMERAS AND THEN INSPECTING
10:37:59AM EXISTING CAMERAS AT THE DIFFERENT PUMP STATIONS.
10:38:01AM WE SAID WE'D DO THAT SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE PUMP
10:38:06AM STATIONS.
10:38:07AM OVER 28 TONS OF DEBRIS REMOVED FROM PIPES AND INLETS.
10:38:12AM 200 STRUCTURES INSPECTED AND MAINTAINED.
10:38:15AM AND ABOUT 18,000 MILES OF PIPE INSPECTED AND MAINTAINED AND
10:38:21AM THEN SEVEN OUTFALLS AS WELL.
10:38:24AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE DONE MORE DITCH GRADING.
10:38:27AM 3,000 FEET OF DITCH GRADED.
10:38:30AM 274 TONS OR 75 ALMOST TONS OF DEBRIS REMOVED FROM DITCHES.
10:38:36AM SO THAT IS A LOT OF MATERIAL AND A LOT OF STREET SWEEPING
10:38:43AM AND THEN ADDITIONAL DEBRIS COLLECTION FROM THE STREET
10:38:47AM SWEEPING AS WELL.
10:38:48AM 20 INLET TOPS REPAIRED JUST TO DATE IN MAY.
10:38:52AM THIS PRODUCTION WILL INCREASE IN JUNE AND JULY PRIMARILY
10:38:59AM BECAUSE OF THE TWO EMERGENCY AFFIDAVITS.
10:39:02AM SO THE FIRST ONE, AS I MENTIONED WAS REPAIRS.
10:39:07AM THE OTHER IS A MILLION DOLLARS FOR CLEANING OUT PIPES,
10:39:10AM JET-LINING PIPES AND INSPECTING THEM, TV INSPECTIONS.
10:39:13AM GETTING VIDEO EVIDENCE OF OUTFALLS AND PIPES BEING
10:39:17AM FUNCTIONAL TO THEIR CURRENT CAPACITIES.
10:39:21AM SO THIS, AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE IS A BROAD EFFORT.
10:39:29AM WE'VE ADDED OVER 2 MILLION, ALMOST $3 MILLION THANKS TO
10:39:33AM COUNCIL MAKING THE HALF A MILLION AVAILABLE IN RESOURCES.
10:39:37AM MUCH OF THIS IS RESPONSE RELATED, SO WILL BE SUBMITTED FOR
10:39:41AM FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.
10:39:43AM THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, OF COURSE.
10:39:44AM BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR REVENUE AND FINANCE TEAM AS WELL,
10:39:48AM MIKE AND DENNIS HAVE BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE.
10:39:51AM FOR EXAMPLE, AT SOME POINT EARLIER THIS MONTH, WE WERE
10:39:56AM REACHING THE LIMIT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET WITH STORMWATER
10:40:01AM MAINTENANCE AND BASICALLY WE WORKED WITH REVENUE AND FINANCE
10:40:05AM AND ASKED THEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE FUNDS.
10:40:09AM SO INITIALLY THEY INSTRUCTED US JUST TO SPEND IT COMPLETELY,
10:40:13AM SPEND DOWN OUR BUDGET AND MAKE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AVAILABLE
10:40:16AM AND THEY HAVE DONE SO.
10:40:17AM SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH OUR FOLKS AS WELL TO ADDRESS AS
10:40:24AM MUCH OF OUR MAINTENANCE AS WE CAN.
10:40:27AM WE'LL BE READY FOR STORM SEASON AND WE WILL HAVE ADDRESSED A
10:40:31AM MAJORITY OF THE ISSUES FROM THE PREVIOUS STORMS.
10:40:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:40:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:40:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M SORRY.
10:40:40AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S MOTION, SO LET'S LET HER GO FIRST.
10:40:45AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:40:46AM THEN GUIDO MANISCALCO AND THEN YOU.
10:40:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:40:49AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:40:50AM THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.
10:40:51AM I'M HOPING -- YOU KNOW, WE GAVE YOU THE HALF MILLION
10:40:56AM INITIALLY BUT WE ALSO GAVE YOU 3 MILLION MORE.
10:40:59AM HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE GOING -- I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHERE
10:41:03AM YOU ARE PLANNING ON USING THAT MONEY.
10:41:06AM DO YOU HAVE AN OUTLINE FOR THAT JUST YET?
10:41:12AM >>VIK BHIDE: I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AS PART OF ITEM 4.
10:41:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEVER MIND.
10:41:17AM WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT THEN.
10:41:18AM I APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING ON TOPIC BECAUSE WE'RE DOING ALL
10:41:21AM DIFFERENT THINGS.
10:41:21AM THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, IT LOOKS
10:41:25AM LIKE, LOOKING AT THE FIRST SHEET, THE CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE
10:41:28AM INCREASED, WHICH WE WOULD EXPECT BECAUSE OF ALL THE DAMAGE.
10:41:32AM HOW IS THAT IMPACTING REGULAR MAINTENANCE?
10:41:35AM THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM STAFF THAT
10:41:39AM CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE PULLING THEM AWAY FROM REGULAR
10:41:42AM MAINTENANCE.
10:41:43AM HOW ARE WE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT?
10:41:48AM >>VIK BHIDE: REALISTICALLY, THERE ISN'T AN IMPACT OTHER THAN
10:41:54AM MORE INSPECTION AND MORE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
10:41:56AM WHETHER IT IS RESPONSE TO A STORM AND MAINTENANCE RELATED TO
10:42:00AM THAT, OR, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, REGULAR MAINTENANCE, IT'S ALL
10:42:05AM MAINTENANCE.
10:42:05AM WE IDENTIFY THE AREA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO AND DO THAT
10:42:09AM MAINTENANCE, AND COMPREHENSIVELY DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH
10:42:13AM THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS AVAILABLE AND ALLOWED.
10:42:16AM NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SPIDER AVAILABLE FOR A
10:42:21AM WHILE, AND MS. CANNELLA RIGHTLY POINTED OUT THAT SOME OF THE
10:42:27AM WORK IN THAT PALMIRA DITCH HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
10:42:32AM THAT WILL BE DONE.
10:42:33AM I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER EARLIER THIS MEETING AND
10:42:36AM IT WILL BE WEEKS AND NOT MONTHS, BUT WE DO HAVE THIS
10:42:40AM COMMITMENT THAT WE MAKE ON THE MONTHLY BASIS TO COUNCIL AND
10:42:43AM THE COMMUNITY.
10:42:46AM SO WE HAVE TO HIT THAT AS WELL AND ALSO THE PALMIRA DITCH IS
10:42:51AM VERY IMPORTANT.
10:42:52AM IT REALLY GOES THROUGH A VERY CONSTRAINED PORTION IN A VERY
10:42:55AM DENSE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:42:56AM SO WE WILL GET THERE.
10:42:58AM WE WILL GET THERE BEFORE MAJOR STORMS OR ANY SUCH THING.
10:43:02AM IT'S GOING TO BE WEEKS.
10:43:03AM I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE RIGHT NOW.
10:43:05AM AND THAT IS ONE OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REPLACE
10:43:09AM AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT.
10:43:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:43:11AM I DO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT NEXT.
10:43:13AM AS FAR AS THE PUMP STATIONS, I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING
10:43:19AM THAT THE PUMP STATION THAT STAFF HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH,
10:43:23AM LOOKED AT THEM, TESTED THEM, BUT I THINK WHAT PEOPLE ARE
10:43:27AM ALSO GOING TO WANT TO KNOW AND I'M GLAD YOU HAVE A STANDARD
10:43:30AM OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR GETTING THOSE GENERATORS OUT AND
10:43:33AM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SPECIFIC GENERATORS, SPECIFIC PUMPS.
10:43:38AM BUT WILL YOU BE GOING OUT AND TESTING THAT DURING THE SEASON
10:43:44AM AS STORMS COME?
10:43:45AM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
10:43:47AM MONTHLY PUMP STATION INSPECTIONS ARE SCHEDULED.
10:43:50AM THAT WAS ALSO THE UPDATE.
10:43:52AM IT USED TO BE QUARTERLY.
10:43:54AM AND THEN I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF
10:43:59AM WILL THAT WILL HUNKER DOWN AS PART OF THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE
10:44:03AM CENTER, ERC 3, THAT ARE DEDICATED TO PUMP STATIONS.
10:44:08AM IN FY '27 BUDGET, YOU'LL ALSO SEE WE REQUESTED POSITIONS TO
10:44:13AM BEEF UP OUR PUMP STATION TEAM AND ADD TWO MORE PUMP STATION
10:44:18AM RELATED EMPLOYEES AND ONE BRIDGE OPERATIONS SPECIALIST.
10:44:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
10:44:22AM THE THING I'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC IS THE APRIL WORK
10:44:27AM LOCATIONS AND DESCRIPTIONS JUST HAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:44:32AM BUT PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF WORK IS BEING DONE IN
10:44:36AM EACH SPACE, AND THAT IS WHERE I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A
10:44:39AM LITTLE BIT OF DISCONNECT.
10:44:40AM SO I KNOW -- SO WHAT CAN YOU SAY, HOW CAN YOU MAKE IT MORE
10:44:47AM SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT AREAS YOU'RE WORKING ON IN THESE
10:44:50AM NEIGHBORHOODS?
10:44:50AM BECAUSE GENERALLY THE NEIGHBORS ARE THE ONES THAT KNOW WHERE
10:44:54AM THE PROBLEM AREAS ARE.
10:44:55AM IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOUR STAFF DOESN'T.
10:44:57AM I'M SURE THEY DO.
10:44:58AM BUT ALSO, JUST HEARING FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE AS
10:45:02AM YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE SPECIFIC DITCH,
10:45:05AM NEIGHBORS COULD TELL YOU, HEY, BY THE WAY, THIS DITCH IS
10:45:08AM ALSO A PROBLEM.
10:45:09AM SO HOW DO YOU GET YOUR PLAN AND HOW DOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:45:13AM CONNECT WITH YOU DURING THIS TIME TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
10:45:16AM GETTING WHAT THEY NEED DONE, DONE DURING THIS TIME?
10:45:19AM >>VIK BHIDE: SO I THINK THAT IS A FAIR AND A GOOD QUESTION
10:45:22AM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE PROVIDE, NEEDS TO BE, WE HAVE
10:45:28AM BEFORE-AND-AFTER PICTURES AND AGGREGATE AMOUNT OF WORK DONE.
10:45:32AM WHAT WE COULD DO IS IN OUR MONTHLY REPORTS AND I'M SURE
10:45:35AM BRIAN IS WATCHING THIS, WE COULD ADD TABLES FROM CITY WORKS.
10:45:40AM CITY WORKS IS OUR WORK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AND THAT SHOWS
10:45:43AM WHAT WORK WAS DONE WHERE.
10:45:45AM IN TERMS OF HOW CAN WE ENGAGE, AGAIN, JUST GIVEN THAT
10:45:54AM GATHERING INFORMATION AND FOLLOWING UP WITH INDIVIDUALS CAN
10:46:00AM BE TIME-CONSUMING.
10:46:01AM THE STREAMLINE ALONG WITH MAINTENANCE STAFF, MY SUGGESTION
10:46:05AM WOULD BE TO CALL INTO OUR CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE FOLKS, AND
10:46:09AM THEY HAVE THOSE CALLS LOGGED, AND THEY DO RECONCILE THEM
10:46:12AM WITH STANDING WORK ORDERS.
10:46:14AM ALL OF THIS IS IN OUR WORK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, CITY WORKERS.
10:46:21AM WHEN THEY GO OUT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD THEY LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE
10:46:24AM OPEN ORDERS IN CITY WORKS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:46:27AM ONE-ON-ONE ENGAGEMENT WITH MAINTENANCE STAFF GETS A LITTLE
10:46:29AM BIT HARDER.
10:46:32AM WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE FOCUSED ON DOING THEIR PORTION OF
10:46:35AM THE JOB.
10:46:35AM WE HAVE A TEAM THAT DOES THE INTAKE.
10:46:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A WAY TO SHARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR
10:46:43AM MAYBE THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND SHARE -- RIGHT
10:46:47AM NOW, WE JUST HAVE THE LISTS.
10:46:48AM IT WOULD BE GREAT IF SOMEONE -- YOU HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS
10:46:54AM PERSON.
10:46:54AM >>VIK BHIDE: JOSH.
10:46:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JOSH COULD GO OUT AND MAKE SOME CUTE
10:46:58AM INSTAGRAM Facebook TYPE POSTS AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE IN YOUR
10:47:02AM NEIGHBORHOOD, CALL THIS NUMBER TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO BE
10:47:06AM LOOKING AT.
10:47:07AM OR ADD A PHOTO HERE.
10:47:10AM JUST SOMEONE TO FOLLOW THAT Facebook FEED.
10:47:15AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO REALLY, AGAIN, HELP, AND LET PEOPLE
10:47:17AM KNOW YOU'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:47:18AM ONE OF MY FAVORITE PHOTOS OF THIS IS FROM THE UNIVERSITY
10:47:23AM SQUARE DEBRIS INLET.
10:47:25AM I'M GOING TO REITERATE IT BECAUSE I SAW A SOCIAL MEDIA POST
10:47:31AM FROM CITY OF TAMPA RECENTLY THAT SAID DON'T BLOW YOUR LEAFS
10:47:35AM AND GRASS CLIPPINGS INTO THE STREET BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY
10:47:38AM WHAT HAPPENS.
10:47:39AM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TAKE TIME TO SAY THAT YET
10:47:42AM AGAIN.
10:47:43AM IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
10:47:44AM IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO.
10:47:47AM THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO AS CITIZENS.
10:47:51AM AS FAR AS THE INLET TOP REPAIR, IS THAT DONE IN-HOUSE?
10:47:55AM AND BY THAT, CAN YOU TALK SPECIFICALLY, IS IT ONLY THE
10:48:03AM CLEANING OUT OF THE PIPES AND THE FIXING OF THE WATER -- THE
10:48:17AM FIXING OF THE CAVE-INS, IS THAT THE ONLY THING WE'RE
10:48:21AM CONTRACTING OUT RIGHT NOW?
10:48:24AM >>VIK BHIDE: CORRECT.
10:48:24AM RIGHT NOW IT IS JET TRUCKS.
10:48:26AM WE DO HAVE STANDING CONTRACTS AS WELL.
10:48:29AM WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT ON ITEM 4 ALSO.
10:48:31AM THAT WAS A MEMO THAT WE SUBMITTED AND DISCUSSED.
10:48:34AM SO WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT AS PART OF
10:48:38AM OUR REGULAR MAINTENANCE WE CONTRACT OUT, RIGHT NOW THE
10:48:43AM EMPHASIS HAS BEEN ON PIPES AND CAVE-INS.
10:48:49AM ON THE INLET TOPS, WE DO THEM IN-HOUSE.
10:48:52AM THEY REQUIRE THREE BASIC TYPES OF EQUIPMENT.
10:48:55AM THE VAC TRUCKS TO CLEAN OUT.
10:48:59AM THEY NEED LOADERS TO HAUL OUT THE EQUIPMENT AND THEN SOME
10:49:04AM OTHER EQUIPMENT AS WELL.
10:49:05AM BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REPAIRING THAT DAMAGE, AND
10:49:12AM THERE ARE SOME PICTURES ON THE PROCESS, FORMING THE CONCRETE
10:49:15AM ON THE TOP AND REESTABLISHING THAT.
10:49:18AM AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WE ALSO CLEAN OUT THE INLET ITSELF OF
10:49:24AM ANY DEBRIS AND THAT'S WHERE THE VACS COME IN.
10:49:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:49:28AM NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE LAST PART AND, QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN
10:49:32AM IT CAME TO THE WORK DONE IN THIS LAST MONTH, THE NUMBERS ARE
10:49:37AM IMPRESSIVE AND STAGGERING, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE
10:49:41AM PUBLIC AND WHAT I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING IS THE
10:49:44AM PERCENTAGE OF THE CITY THAT YOU'RE COVERING.
10:49:48AM IF YOU DID 3200 FEET OF DITCHES, IF YOU GRADED THAT, HOW
10:49:52AM MUCH OF THE SYSTEM IS THAT?
10:49:53AM LIKE, WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH?
10:49:57AM WE NEED TO HAVE MORE AMBITIOUS GOALS FOR THIS.
10:50:02AM I WOULD LOVE THAT TO SEE THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
10:50:10AM WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING?
10:50:11AM HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THIS AS A CITY?
10:50:14AM HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THIS AS PARTS OF A CITY AND SAY, OKAY, WE
10:50:18AM ARE REALLY CLEANING OUT STUFF EVERY YEAR?
10:50:20AM SOME OF THIS GOES TO YOUR QUARTERLY STORMWATER UPDATES.
10:50:28AM WHEN YOU SHOW THE GRAVITY MAINS AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT, IT
10:50:32AM WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD SEE -- SOME OF THIS I MIGHT TALK
10:50:36AM TO YOU ABOUT OFF-LINE BECAUSE I HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
10:50:39AM AND THINGS I WANT TO ADD, BUT WITH THE STORMWATER GRAVITY
10:50:45AM MAIN MAP, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS COLOR CODED TO SHOW
10:50:50AM WHAT WAS INSPECTED, HOW LONG IT'S BEEN, THOSE TYPES OF
10:50:52AM THINGS SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW, HEY, MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN
10:50:55AM INSPECTED RECENTLY AND RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING,
10:50:58AM HEY, HAS THAT BEEN DONE?
10:51:00AM IF WE HAD THAT ON THE WEBSITE, FOLKS COULD JUST IMMEDIATELY
10:51:04AM GO OR IF THEY CALL INTO THE HOT LINE AND FOLKS COULD DIRECT
10:51:09AM THEM TO THAT WEBSITE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S
10:51:13AM ACCOMPLISHED.
10:51:14AM SO THE MORE WE CAN GET ON TO A MAP OR CLEAR TO SHOW WHAT HAS
10:51:17AM BEEN DONE, HOW LONG IT'S BEEN SINCE SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN
10:51:20AM DONE, I THINK IT WOULD HELP THE CITIZENS NOT HAVE TO CALL
10:51:23AM IN, BUT THEN CALL IN WHEN THERE ARE ACTUAL PROBLEMS.
10:51:28AM >>VIK BHIDE: JUST SO I'M CLEAR ON THIS, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN
10:51:31AM TO INTERRUPT.
10:51:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
10:51:34AM >>VIK BHIDE: BASICALLY, IF WE ARE CLEANING OUT PIPES, MAP
10:51:37AM THOSE AND SHOW.
10:51:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
10:51:39AM I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE MORE THING BECAUSE I'M TAKING A
10:51:43AM LOT OF TIME AND I WANT TO LET OTHER PEOPLE GO.
10:51:45AM I DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU OFF-LINE ABOUT NEW ADDITIONS I
10:51:49AM WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO THIS IN THE FUTURE.
10:51:53AM I DO WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THE TIME TODAY TO DEFINE
10:51:57AM WHAT A DITCH IS TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT DITCHES ARE THE
10:52:01AM RESPONSIBILITY OF A HOMEOWNER, PER SE, AND WHAT THE
10:52:07AM DIFFERENCE IS IN A DITCH THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
10:52:10AM CITY.
10:52:10AM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
10:52:11AM I WILL PREFACE THIS BY SAYING THAT I AM NOT A STORMWATER
10:52:17AM ENGINEER, SO I WOULD NOT KNOW WHAT THE ACCURATE DEFINITION
10:52:21AM IS.
10:52:21AM I'M SURE THERE IS AN ENGINEERING DEFINITION.
10:52:24AM THIS IS MAINLY FOR THE ENGINEERS.
10:52:26AM BUT A DITCH BASICALLY CONVEYS STORMWATER FROM ONE POINT TO
10:52:32AM ANOTHER, USUALLY TO A SYSTEM OR AN OUTFALL.
10:52:35AM AND THEN WHAT GETS MAINTAINED BY THE CITY, WHAT DOES NOT GET
10:52:41AM MAINTAINED BY THE CITY.
10:52:45AM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE EARLY IN 2003
10:52:50AM WHEN THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT WAS FIRST PASSED.
10:52:54AM PRIOR TO 2003 AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WOULD PROBABLY
10:52:59AM REMEMBER, THERE WAS NO FUNDING FOR STORMWATER.
10:53:01AM SO THERE WAS NO STORMWATER ENGINEERING TEAM.
10:53:03AM VERY FEW PEOPLE, ONE TEAM AT THAT TIME.
10:53:08AM SO THERE WAS A RESOURCE CHALLENGE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED.
10:53:11AM THE SIMPLEST WAY TO ANSWER WHAT DITCHES ARE MAINTAINED BY
10:53:16AM THE CITY VERSUS NOT IS BASED ON DEPTH AND THE WIDTH.
10:53:23AM SO THE WAY KEITH GORMAN, OUR SENIOR TECHNICIAN THAT
10:53:29AM MAINTAINS AND OVERSEES CONTRACTS FOR DITCHES EXPLAINS TO ME,
10:53:33AM IF AN AVERAGE PERSON CAN WALK ACROSS THAT DITCH, MEANING IF
10:53:38AM IT'S 18 INCHES DEEP OR IF IT'S NOT VERY -- IF A LAWN MOWER
10:53:43AM CAN GO THROUGH IT, THEN MOST LIKELY THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY
10:53:48AM OWNER TO MAINTAIN.
10:53:50AM NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, THERE IS AN INVENTORY OF WHAT THE
10:53:55AM CITY WILL MAINTAIN VERSUS WHAT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE REQUIRED
10:53:58AM TO MAINTAIN.
10:54:00AM WE WILL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
10:54:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A WAY, BECAUSE WE WALKED
10:54:09AM NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE DITCHES HAD, WHILE THEY WERE
10:54:12AM MAINTAINED BY THE OWNERS, THEY HAD GROWN UP OVER WHERE THEY
10:54:17AM COULD GET INTO THE PIPES.
10:54:18AM THEY WERE BLOCKING PIPEAGE.
10:54:22AM IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THE CITY WILL GO THROUGH AND RE-GRADE
10:54:25AM THOSE, BUT THEN IT RELIES AGAIN ON THE CONSTITUENT.
10:54:28AM IF YOU'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH YOUR PIPES OR THAT FEED FROM
10:54:34AM THAT, YOU SHOULD CALL THE HOT LINE NUMBER SO THEY CAN GET
10:54:39AM YOU ON A PLAN TO RE-GRADE YOUR DITCH.
10:54:42AM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS CORRECT.
10:54:44AM YOU CAN EITHER GO THROUGH THE PORTAL OR THE BEST WAY TO
10:54:48AM REACH US IS 813-274-3101 FOR ALL STORMWATER ISSUES.
10:54:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
10:54:55AM THANK YOU.
10:54:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:54:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:55:00AM REAL QUICK.
10:55:00AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK, YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
10:55:04AM CERTAINLY IN THIS UPDATE, A LOT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
10:55:07AM AND IN THE TIMING OF THIS IS PERFECT BECAUSE YESTERDAY I WAS
10:55:12AM SPEAKING WITH A GROUP AND THE TOPIC OF MAINTENANCE AND
10:55:16AM DITCHES AND CULVERTS AND EVERYTHING HAD COME UP.
10:55:19AM AND ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS IS HERE.
10:55:20AM I'M GLAD THIS HAS COME UP.
10:55:28AM MS. CANNELLA SHOWED PHOTOS, A SPECIFIC AREA, PALMIRA, I
10:55:34AM THINK.
10:55:36AM >>VIK BHIDE: I THINK -- I'LL LET MS. CANNELLA SPEAK TO HER
10:55:42AM PICTURES.
10:55:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REGARDLESS, WHEN SOMETHING IS NOT
10:55:45AM MAINTAINED SYSTEM WILL FAIL.
10:55:46AM JUST LIKE A CAR, DON'T CHANGE THE OIL, DO THE MAINTENANCE,
10:55:49AM THE CAR WILL FALL APART MUCH MORE QUICKLY.
10:55:51AM YOU SHOWED ME A VARIETY OF FIXES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:55:57AM SWANN IS ONE THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS FOR A LONG TIME,
10:56:00AM AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED CALLS.
10:56:02AM NOT THAT EVERYTHING IS PERFECT, BUT YOU HAVE GONE OUT AND
10:56:05AM FIXED UP.
10:56:06AM HOPEFULLY AS WE SEE THE SUCCESS OF THE MAINTENANCE DONE, AND
10:56:12AM THIS IS JUST FROM APRIL.
10:56:14AM THIS IS JUST THE MOST RECENT, PERHAPS WHEN THE SUMMER RAINS
10:56:18AM COME, WE'LL SEE THAT THE SYSTEM WORKS BETTER AND PERHAPS WE
10:56:23AM MAY SEE THAT SHOULD IT BE WORKING BETTER, AS WE MOVE FORWARD
10:56:27AM OR TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BIG, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
10:56:31AM PROJECTS WE REALIZE MAYBE IT'S NOT SO MUCH WE HAVE TO BUILD
10:56:34AM AND WE HAVE TO DO, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL ON ANY SPECIFIC
10:56:37AM PROJECTS, MAYBE WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
10:56:40AM AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, YES, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF NEW
10:56:43AM HOUSES, A LOT OF NEW BUILDING, A LOT OF NEW STUFF, BUT WE
10:56:46AM HAVEN'T BEEN MAINTAINING THINGS PROPERLY.
10:56:48AM AS YOU MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY TO 2003, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE
10:56:52AM STORMWATER MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENT.
10:56:53AM IN 2016 AS PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WE
10:56:56AM INCREASED THE FUNDING TOWARD THAT.
10:56:58AM AS A COUNCIL WE FURTHER INCREASED THE FUNDING FOR THE
10:57:00AM MAINTENANCE.
10:57:01AM SO I THINK IT MAY NOT BE THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING, BUT I
10:57:04AM THINK MAINTENANCE AND THE LACK THEREOF IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
10:57:07AM THINGS.
10:57:07AM AND HOPEFULLY THE STRIDES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE WILL SHOW
10:57:11AM PROOF THAT ONCE THE RAINS COME, THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
10:57:15AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE HERE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AS
10:57:18AM GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
10:57:20AM WHEN WE HAVE THESE MASSIVE STORMWATER PROJECTS THAT ARE IN
10:57:23AM THE MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, PERHAPS THE RIGHT WAY
10:57:28AM AND THE MORE PRUDENT WAY IS JUST TO ATTACK THAT MAINTENANCE
10:57:31AM AS WE HAVE.
10:57:32AM A LOT HAS BEEN SAID.
10:57:36AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK BROUGHT UP A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS
10:57:38AM AND POINTS, BUT WE NEED TO FURTHER INVEST IN THAT
10:57:41AM MAINTENANCE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE
10:57:43AM DIFFERENCE -- HOPEFULLY IT MAKES ENOUGH OF A DIFFERENCE THAT
10:57:45AM UNLESS IT IS A MAJOR HURRICANE, WE'RE SEEING THAT THE SUMMER
10:57:50AM RAINS ARE MORE MANAGEABLE OVERALL.
10:57:53AM THANK YOU.
10:57:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMAN
10:57:55AM MIRANDA.
10:57:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:57:58AM FROM YOUR LIST OF NEIGHBORHOODS, IF THE AVERAGE SOUTH TAMPA
10:58:03AM RESIDENT LOOKED AT IT, IT APPEARS THAT IT'S LIGHT ON SOUTH
10:58:07AM TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:58:08AM SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO INCLUDE MORE SOUTH TAMPA
10:58:11AM NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY, MANY THIS WERE HIT.
10:58:14AM BUT I ALSO OBSERVED THAT I'VE BEEN OUT WHEN CLEANING CREWS
10:58:19AM HAVE CLEANED IT ITCHES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:58:21AM AND I DON'T SEE THOSE AREAS ON THIS LIST.
10:58:23AM NOT TO ANSWER NOW, BUT I HAVE A HYPOTHESIS THAT THERE MAYBE
10:58:29AM WERE SOME DONE RIGHT AFTER THE STORM THAT ARE NOT ON THE
10:58:32AM LIST, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU SO THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
10:58:36AM DOESN'T GET A BUNCH OF E-MAILS FROM SOUTH TAMPA SAYING WHY
10:58:39AM AREN'T YOU DOING OUR AREA, I THINK THERE ARE MANY AREAS THAT
10:58:42AM WERE DONE THAT MIGHT NOT -- YOU MIGHT NOT BE GETTING CREDIT
10:58:45AM FOR.
10:58:46AM I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.
10:58:47AM ALSO, IN COMMUNICATING WHAT YOUR DEPARTMENT IS DOING,
10:58:50AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION ABOUT GENERATORS FOR
10:58:55AM PUMPS.
10:58:55AM BUT IN SOUTH TAMPA FOR THE MOST PART, PUMPS ARE NOT THE MAIN
10:58:59AM ISSUE.
10:58:59AM THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT MAINTENANCE.
10:59:01AM IN A COUPLE OF CASES, AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE
10:59:04AM STRENGTH OF THE PUMP, NOT THE GENERATOR.
10:59:06AM I THINK THE POINT IS THAT THERE IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL
10:59:11AM IN HOW WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
10:59:13AM PUMP GENERATORS IS AN EASY SOUND BITE, BUT FOR THE THOUSANDS
10:59:17AM OF PEOPLE HIT IN SOUTH TAMPA, MOST OF THEM DON'T SEE THAT AS
10:59:21AM THE SOLUTION THAT WOULD IMPACT THEM.
10:59:22AM I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS.
10:59:25AM THE OTHER THING IN TERMS OF LANGUAGE, IF YOU SAY WE'RE
10:59:27AM GRADING A DITCH, UNTIL A LITTLE WHILE AGO I WASN'T SURE WHAT
10:59:35AM THAT MEANT.
10:59:36AM I THINK IF WE SAY WE'RE DIGGING THE DITCH OUT OR SOME PLAIN
10:59:39AM LANGUAGE.
10:59:39AM WE'RE DIGGING A DITCH SO IT GOES BELOW THE PIPES THAT ARE
10:59:44AM CONNECTING IT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT THE WATER CAN
10:59:47AM FLOW.
10:59:49AM I AGREE WITH THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK WAS
10:59:52AM SAYING, THERE'S ALSO NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE FILLED IN
10:59:55AM DITCHES NOT KNOWING THEY SHOULDN'T.
10:59:58AM WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT AS WELL.
11:00:00AM I WOULD ASK YOU, DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THE ANSWER NOW, BUT ASK
11:00:03AM YOU TO TALK TO THE PUBLIC, YOUR E-MAIL TEAM DOES A GOOD JOB
11:00:08AM OF RESPONDING BUT I THINK WE NEED A BETTER WAY OF DESCRIBING
11:00:11AM HOW WE ARE SETTING PRIORITIES.
11:00:13AM IN TRIAGE, WHAT ARE WE DOING FIRST?
11:00:15AM RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS ARBITRARY.
11:00:18AM IF THERE'S SOME PLAN TO IT, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE
11:00:21AM TALK ABOUT THAT.
11:00:23AM AN EXAMPLE AND DON'T WANT TO GO IN-DEPTH ON THIS, IF YOU ARE
11:00:26AM TRYING TO AFFECT PARKLAND ESTATES AND PALMA CEIA PINES,
11:00:30AM SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD BE DOING MAINTENANCE UP BY KENNEDY
11:00:33AM SOMEWHERE OR FURTHER TO THE NORTH BECAUSE TALKING ABOUT
11:00:36AM WATERSHEDS AND GRAVITY, THEN HOW DO WE IMPACT THAT?
11:00:39AM THE SAME WITH OTHERS.
11:00:41AM IF THERE IS A WAY TO EXPLAIN OUT OF THE THOUSAND PROJECTS OR
11:00:44AM WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, WE'RE STARTING WITH THE FIRST
11:00:47AM HUNDRED BASED ON THIS CRITERIA, THAT WOULD HELP THE PUBLIC
11:00:49AM UNDERSTAND IT.
11:00:50AM IT'S ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT WHAT MS. CANNELLA SAID ABOUT
11:00:55AM THE EQUIPMENT, SO I WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT.
11:00:57AM YOU SAID 2013 FOR THE NEW TAX, I REMEMBER 2016, WHATEVER IT
11:01:03AM WAS, AT THAT TIME, THE PUBLIC WAS TOLD THAT SEVERAL MILLION
11:01:07AM DOLLARS WAS SPENT ON MAINTENANCE.
11:01:09AM WE NOW SEE AREAS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN MAINTAINED IN DECADES.
11:01:12AM I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT.
11:01:16AM ALSO, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK MENTIONED THE LEAFS.
11:01:22AM THERE IS A VIDEO THAT THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT POSTED
11:01:24AM THIS MORNING TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT'S ILLEGAL TO PUT LEAFS
11:01:28AM IN THE STREET.
11:01:29AM THANK YOU TO THEM FOR DOING THAT.
11:01:32AM ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO WE ON CITY COUNCIL DOUBLED THE FINES
11:01:36AM BUT THERE IS A LACK OF COMMUNICATION TO LANDSCAPERS ON IT.
11:01:40AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMMENTS, STILL WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE
11:01:43AM COMMENTING THAT CITY STAFF OR CITY CONTRACTORS ARE BLOWING
11:01:46AM LEAFS INTO THE STREETS.
11:01:48AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EDUCATING LANDSCAPERS AND
11:01:52AM HOMEOWNERS, AND CITY CONTRACTORS.
11:01:55AM AND THEN THE OTHER THING PEOPLE ARE CALLING FOR IS
11:01:58AM ENFORCEMENT.
11:01:59AM WE'VE DOUBLED THE FINES, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GO IN.
11:02:02AM I REALIZE IT'S HARD TO CATCH THEM, BUT YOU REALLY SEE IT
11:02:05AM WHEN DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND SUDDENLY THE CAR IS COVERED
11:02:08AM WITH LEAFS BECAUSE SOMEBODY BLEW THEM IN THE STREET.
11:02:11AM THE OTHER THING IS WASTEWATER.
11:02:14AM THERE ARE AREAS HIT BY WASTEWATER.
11:02:16AM ERIC AND HIS TEAM ARE REALLY GOOD ABOUT GOING OUT.
11:02:19AM I THINK AND I WISH THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD PUT
11:02:21AM TOGETHER SOME KIND OF MULTIFUNCTION TASK FORCE BECAUSE OF
11:02:25AM YOUR POSITION, THERE'S SOME SYNERGY BETWEEN STORMWATER
11:02:29AM MOBILITY.
11:02:30AM REALLY, BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED AND THE CLAIMS OF SEWAGE
11:02:33AM WATER BUBBLING UP OR NOT FLOWING FORWARD OR GRAVITY PUSHING
11:02:37AM INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE'S SYNERGY THERE WITH WASTEWATER,
11:02:41AM STORMWATER MOBILITY, MAYBE SOME WITH POTABLE WATER, BUT ALSO
11:02:44AM WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, PERMITTING, AND THEN AS PEOPLE
11:02:48AM ARE LOOKING TO REBUILD THEIR HOUSES, THERE ARE NEW FEMA
11:02:53AM RULES.
11:02:54AM WE WERE EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
11:02:56AM I THINK GOING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY AS WE FACE THE STORM TIME,
11:03:00AM WE NEED TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WE HAVE AN INTEGRATED PLAN AND
11:03:03AM FOCUSING ON AN INTEGRATED WAY TO PREVENT FLOODING IN THE
11:03:06AM FUTURE.
11:03:07AM LASTLY, IF YOU NEED MORE BUDGET, COME TO US QUICKLY SO THAT
11:03:10AM WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE SPEED IT UP AS WELL BECAUSE WE KNOW
11:03:13AM THE PUBLIC WANTS THIS.
11:03:14AM THANK YOU.
11:03:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:03:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:16AM ONE THING I HEARD ABOUT DITCHES, AS I UNDERSTAND IT FOR A
11:03:22AM LONG TIME IT'S BEEN THAT THE DITCHES, THE WHOLE CITY IS
11:03:24AM DIVIDED INTO QUARTERS, FOUR QUARTERS.
11:03:27AM AND WHOEVER HAS THAT CONTRACT HAS TO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY
11:03:30AM OF DOING THE WORK AND HAVING THE EQUIPMENT TO DO THE WORK.
11:03:33AM SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CHANGED ANYWHERE.
11:03:36AM I DON'T THINK IT HAS.
11:03:36AM BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THEY DO THAT
11:03:41AM AND THEY DON'T GET PAID UNTIL THE FELLA FROM THE CITY
11:03:45AM FOLLOWS AND SAYS, YES, IT'S BEEN DONE.
11:03:48AM IF I REMEMBER THE PAYMENT PROCESS, THAT'S HOW IT WAS.
11:03:50AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS LIKE THAT ANYMORE.
11:03:53AM I CAN REMEMBER HOW SENSITIVE IT IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE
11:03:56AM TYPES OF DRAINAGE ON WOODLAWN AND HABANA, LONG TIME AGO.
11:04:00AM I GET A CALL IT WAS BACKED UP, RAINING KIND OF HARD BUT NOT
11:04:04AM THAT HARD WHERE THE WHOLE STREET IS UNDER WATER.
11:04:07AM I CALL THE CITY, YOU KNOW WHAT WAS INSIDE THE DRAIN?
11:04:10AM A COVER OF A GARBAGE CAN THAT BLOCKED THE WHOLE SYSTEM FROM
11:04:17AM OPERATING.
11:04:17AM HAD A GENTLEMAN GO IN THERE AND BRING IT OUT.
11:04:20AM I WAS AMAZED SOMETHING THAT SIMPLE COULD CAUSE THAT KIND OF
11:04:23AM DRAINAGE PROBLEM ANYWHERE.
11:04:24AM I IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD DO WHEN YOU HAVE A TORRENTIAL
11:04:27AM RAINFALL OR HURRICANE COME BY, YOU WOULD BE UNDERWATER IN
11:04:29AM THE WHOLE AREA.
11:04:30AM JUST THAT ONE COVER FROM ONE GARBAGE CAN DID THAT.
11:04:35AM SECONDLY, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHEN I SEE PICTURES OF THE
11:04:38AM DRAINS BEFORE AND AFTER, THERE IS AN ORDINANCE YEARS AGO
11:04:43AM THAT SAYS IF THEY CATCH YOU PUTTING STUFF INTO THE DRAIN,
11:04:46AM YOU WOULD BE FINED.
11:04:48AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE FIND ANYBODY BECAUSE WHO WILL PATROL
11:04:52AM THAT?
11:04:52AM VERY DIFFICULT.
11:04:54AM YOU GO, SEE SOMEBODY, BY THE TIME YOU GO, THAT INDIVIDUAL IS
11:04:57AM GONE.
11:04:58AM NOT THOUGH CHANGE THE SUBJECT MATTER, GOT SO BAD YEARS AGO
11:05:00AM THAT ON THE CORNER OF LAKE AND GOMEZ AND ON THE CORNER OF
11:05:05AM SWANN AND HENDERSON BOULEVARD AT DIFFERENT TIMES I SAW TWO
11:05:09AM TRUCKS ABOUT THE THIRD THE SIZE OF A GASOLINE TRUCK TAKING
11:05:14AM WATER FROM ONE, THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT USES TO SOLVE THE
11:05:17AM PROBLEMS IN CASE THERE IS A HURRICANE.
11:05:19AM AND THEY WERE GETTING OUR WATER FOR FREE.
11:05:21AM I STOPPED AND TALKED TO THE GUY UNTIL HE TOLD ME TO GO TO
11:05:24AM HELL AND HAD TO CALL FOR BACKUP.
11:05:26AM IT'S JUST THAT'S HOW VIOLENT THEY ARE.
11:05:29AM THEY WANT SOMETHING, THEY GO GET IT.
11:05:31AM YOU CAN'T STOP EVERYTHING BUT WE CAN SURE TRY.
11:05:34AM I WOULD SEE AND RECOMMEND TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE
11:05:37AM THAT EVERY CITY EMPLOYEE HAS A RIGHT TO CALL SOMEBODY TO GO
11:05:42AM SEE DROPPING IN THE THINGS INTO THE DITCH.
11:05:45AM YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT SOME OF THE TIME, MAYBE EVEN SOME
11:05:48AM OF OUR OWN EMPLOYEES ARE DOING IT.
11:05:50AM I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE.
11:05:52AM THESE ARE THE THINGS I SEE THAT COULD BE CHANGED WITH VERY
11:05:55AM FEW DOLLARS AND GET SOMETHING DONE.
11:05:58AM BUT DITCHES HAVE GOT TO BE DONE PROPERLY.
11:06:00AM SOME DITCHES ARE DEEPER THAN OTHERS, AND SOME YOU CAN GO
11:06:07AM DEEPER WITHOUT HITTING WATER AND SOME YOU CAN'T.
11:06:10AM THESE ARE THE THINGS I KNOW IF WE IMPROVE ON IT WOULD HELP
11:06:13AM 25% OF THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.
11:06:14AM THANK YOU.
11:06:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:06:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:06:20AM EVERYONE HAS SAID A LOT OF GOOD REMARKS.
11:06:22AM I WAS GOING TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR THE VERY DETAILED REPORT.
11:06:25AM THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE
11:06:29AM LOOKING FOR, WHICH IS DETAILED REPORT ON THE SMALL THINGS
11:06:32AM WE'RE DOING.
11:06:33AM I COULDN'T IMAGINE IF I GOT FLOODED IN 2024 AND LOOKING AT
11:06:37AM IT RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, THE ACUTE SENSE OF PTSD THAT A LOT OF
11:06:43AM THESE PEOPLE HAVE IS IMMENSE.
11:06:45AM THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT BIG THINGS, LITTLE THINGS, EVERY
11:06:48AM PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT CAN GO TO JUST MAXIMIZING OUR
11:06:54AM CHANCES FOR A GOOD 2025.
11:06:56AM THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG PART OF IT WITH REGARDS TO REGULAR
11:07:03AM EVERYDAY MAINTENANCE.
11:07:04AM SO, YEAH, THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
11:07:06AM BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MY CONSTITUENTS ARE LOOKING
11:07:08AM AT.
11:07:09AM THEY ARE LOOKING AT BIG THINGS, LITTLE THINGS.
11:07:12AM THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT A
11:07:16AM GOVERNMENT DOES, MAKING SURE THEY ARE BEING DONE BECAUSE
11:07:19AM AGAIN AFTER WHAT PEOPLE WENT THROUGH LAST YEAR, THEY HAVE A
11:07:21AM REAL COMPELLING INTEREST, OBVIOUSLY, IN THAT.
11:07:24AM JUST THANK YOU, SIR.
11:07:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT COMING UP NEXT.
11:07:29AM STARTING WITH MS. POYNOR.
11:07:31AM THERE YOU ARE.
11:07:35AM >> I'M GLAD TO SEE -- STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:07:38AM I'M GLAD TO SEE PORT TAMPA ON THERE.
11:07:43AM I'M GLAD TO SEE THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION ON THERE.
11:07:46AM BAY SIDE WEST.
11:07:49AM I'M WONDERING ABOUT HOW WE GO ALL THE WAY UP TO BEACH PARK
11:07:53AM ON THAT WEST SIDE OF WESTSHORE IF WE'RE GOING TO HIT ALL
11:07:56AM THOSE BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON.
11:07:58AM I KNOW FOR JUST MY OWN PERSONAL OBSERVATION, THE DITCHES AT
11:08:04AM INTERBAY AND MANHATTAN DEFINITELY NEED TO BE CLEANED.
11:08:07AM THEY NEED TO BE, I DON'T KNOW -- THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR JOB
11:08:12AM DURING THE STORM, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
11:08:14AM I'M SORRY.
11:08:17AM I GOT DISCOMBOBULATED.
11:08:19AM I HAD TO DO SOME WORK.
11:08:21AM YOU KNOW, I THINK THESE ARE GOOD PLANS, BUT I STILL AM VERY
11:08:29AM CONCERNED THAT OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT IS PULLED OFF THE
11:08:33AM ROADS CLEARING DITCHES, DOING THEIR JOB IN THE STORMWATER
11:08:39AM DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO SET UP AND BREAK DOWN FOR PARADES.
11:08:46AM IN ORDER TO SET UP AND BREAK DOWN FOR THE GASPARILLA RUN.
11:08:48AM THAT'S 28 DAYS A YEAR THAT WE LOSE BECAUSE OF THOSE.
11:08:54AM AND IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THE ADMINISTRATION GIVES TWO FLIPS
11:08:59AM ABOUT THAT BEING INAPPROPRIATE, ABOUT THAT BEING A
11:09:03AM MISMANAGEMENT OF OUR STORMWATER DOLLARS.
11:09:06AM WE ONLY HAVE $25 MILLION.
11:09:08AM YOU GUYS GAVE THEM MORE MONEY, BUT HOW MUCH MONEY DO EACH
11:09:11AM ONE OF THOSE DAYS THAT WE MISS HAVING PEOPLE, BOOTS ON THE
11:09:17AM GROUND, DIGGING DITCHES, MAKING SURE THAT STORM DRAINS ARE
11:09:20AM CLEANED, ARE THEY ACTUALLY -- I MEAN, HOW MUCH MONEY DOES
11:09:25AM THAT COST?
11:09:25AM BECAUSE STORMWATER MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT ON STORMWATER, NOT
11:09:29AM ON PARADES.
11:09:30AM I LIKE PARADES.
11:09:31AM I LIKE TO WALK IN PARADES.
11:09:32AM I LIKE TO GO TO PARADES.
11:09:34AM BUT HONESTLY, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR STORMWATER
11:09:39AM DEPARTMENT DOING THE JOB THAT THEY DO UNDER THE GUISE OF
11:09:43AM STORMWATER.
11:09:44AM WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
11:09:45AM YOU GUYS GAVE THEM MORE MONEY, BUT THE PROBLEM IS IF THE
11:09:48AM MONEY IS SPENT ON PARADES, DID THEY REALLY NEED IT?
11:09:53AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:09:54AM THANK YOU.
11:09:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. SANCHEZ, ARE YOU SKIPPING THIS ITEM?
11:10:02AM YOU'RE NEXT.
11:10:03AM FOLLOWED BY MS. BULLOCK.
11:10:05AM THANK YOU.
11:10:06AM MR. MICHELINI.
11:10:08AM MS. FERRELLI AND MS. CANNELLA.
11:10:14AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
11:10:15AM FIRST THING, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY INCREASE THE FINES FOR
11:10:22AM ANYONE THAT BLOWS IN DEBRIS OR DISRUPTS DITCHES TO THE
11:10:27AM MAXIMUM ALLOWED BY LAW.
11:10:29AM THE MAXIMUM.
11:10:30AM IT IS UNCALLED FOR AND IT DAMAGES EVERYONE.
11:10:37AM CONSIDER ESTABLISHING CREWS BY AREA OF THE CITY SO THAT YOU
11:10:42AM HAVE DEDICATED CREWS WITH DEDICATED EQUIPMENT FOR NORTH
11:10:45AM TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, AND SOUTH TAMPA.
11:10:48AM WITH THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT SO THEY ARE NOT BORROWING ONE PIECE
11:10:51AM OF EQUIPMENT TO GO SHUTTLING AROUND TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF
11:10:54AM THE CITY.
11:10:55AM WHAT ARE THE TIMELINES FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND FOR THE
11:11:02AM RETENTION PONDS AND DITCHES?
11:11:03AM I WANT TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF PHOTOGRAPHS.
11:11:08AM THIS IS THE POND AT HORATIO AND ARMENIA, THE ONE THAT
11:11:15AM OVERFLOWED AND FLOODED DOWN INTO PARKLAND.
11:11:19AM THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE SAME POND.
11:11:24AM I TOOK THESE PICTURES LAST WEEK.
11:11:27AM THIS IS THE HYDE PARK POND.
11:11:31AM AND YOU CAN SEE THE ALGAE, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE TRASH AND
11:11:34AM DEBRIS THAT FLOWS INTO THERE FROM THE STREET.
11:11:38AM THE RAINWATER FLOWS AND IT TAKES THE DEBRIS INTO THE POND.
11:11:44AM AND THIS IS THE POND THAT THEY JUST CLEANED OUT.
11:11:50AM THIS IS OVER ON BRISTOL AND ALBANY.
11:11:54AM SO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
11:11:56AM WHEN THEY MAINTAIN A POND, IT SHOULD FUNCTION CORRECTLY.
11:12:02AM I TURNED THIS IN TWICE ON THE CITY SYSTEM.
11:12:04AM THIS IS 2602 SUNSET.
11:12:07AM WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS THEY EITHER CAME OUT AND THEY PUT
11:12:10AM CONES AND NEW BARRICADES, BUT HADN'T BEEN FIXED.
11:12:14AM THEY FIXED THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET, AND I HAVE NO IDEA
11:12:19AM WHY THEY DIDN'T FIX THIS ONE.
11:12:21AM ANYWAY.
11:12:23AM WHAT ARE THE SCHEDULES FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE PUMP
11:12:27AM STATIONS?
11:12:27AM HOW MANY MAINTENANCE CREWS ARE THERE OPERATING WITH THEIR
11:12:31AM OWN EQUIPMENT?
11:12:31AM HOW MUCH EQUIPMENT IS DEDICATED SOLELY TO STORMWATER AS
11:12:35AM OPPOSED TO BORROWING IT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS?
11:12:39AM AND UNTIL WE GET CONTROL OVER THE MAINTENANCE, WE CANNOT
11:12:44AM SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
11:12:44AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM ENTIRELY,
11:12:47AM BUT IT WOULD HELP IF WE STARTED WITH MAINTENANCE AND GOT
11:12:51AM SOME OF THESE UNDER CONTROL.
11:12:52AM AGAIN, I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND AND ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL
11:12:56AM TO CONSIDER ESTABLISHING THE MAXIMUM FINES ALLOWED BY LAW.
11:13:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. CANNELLA FOLLOWED BY FRAN TATE.
11:13:10AM >> YVONNE FERRELLI, ON BEHALF OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC
11:13:14AM CLUB.
11:13:14AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ADVOCATING
11:13:17AM TO FIND IMMEDIATE FLOODING SOLUTIONS QUICKLY ON OUR
11:13:25AM NEIGHBORHOOD AT PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:13:26AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:13:27AM SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MOBILITY FOR INCREASING SOME
11:13:31AM OUTLETS IN OUR PARKLAND ESTATES AREA, INCLUDING FOUNTAIN
11:13:36AM PARK.
11:13:37AM I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL GIVE US SOME SUMMERTIME RELIEF.
11:13:43AM HOWEVER, I WILL SAY MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE.
11:13:46AM IT IS KEY.
11:13:47AM IT IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE.
11:13:50AM THE NEGLIGENCE OF THE MAINTENANCE IN THE PAST, AND IT IS THE
11:13:54AM QUESTION OF HOW IT WILL MAINTAIN ITSELF OR BE MAINTAINED IN
11:13:59AM THE FUTURE.
11:13:59AM I CANNOT ASK ENOUGH ABOUT HOW IF ANY PROJECTS GO FORWARD IN
11:14:08AM THE FUTURE, HOW WILL THEY MAINTAIN THEM?
11:14:10AM WHAT IS THE FUNDING?
11:14:12AM WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES IF IT'S NOT MAINTAINED PROPERLY?
11:14:17AM I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY ADDRESS THAT.
11:14:23AM THANK YOU.
11:14:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU'RE WELCOME.
11:14:24AM MS. CANNELLA AND THEN MS. TATE.
11:14:28AM NO PROBLEM.
11:14:31AM MS. TATE.
11:14:34AM >> THANK YOU, PRO TEM HENDERSON AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:14:37AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PIGGY BACK ON WHAT MR. MICHELINI
11:14:41AM SUGGESTED.
11:14:43AM DOUBLE FINES, BUT THEN HOW DO YOU CATCH THOSE THAT ARE DOING
11:14:46AM IT?
11:14:46AM POLICE ARE NOT GOING TO PATROL THE STREETS LOOKING FOR
11:14:52AM PEOPLE THAT ARE BLOWING LEAFS INTO THE STORMWATER DRAINS.
11:14:58AM MY SUGGESTION IS TO HAVE YOU GUYS AND TPD ISSUE A SECURITY
11:15:07AM CAR TO EACH NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT.
11:15:09AM SOME CITIES HAVE THAT WHERE THE CRIME WATCH GROUP HAS A
11:15:12AM LITTLE CAR, AND IT JUST RIDES THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, NOT
11:15:16AM CONFRONTING ANYONE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT THEY ARE DOING WRONG,
11:15:19AM BUT JUST COLLECTING PICTURES AND MAKING REPORTS.
11:15:23AM AND THAT WOULD STOP THAT.
11:15:25AM OR YOU COULD SEND OUT A MASS FLYER OR DO A COMMERCIAL.
11:15:32AM BECAUSE SOME OF US DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S WRONG AND ILLEGAL TO
11:15:38AM BLOW LEAFS, BECAUSE EVERYBODY BLOWS LEAFS.
11:15:42AM PERSONALLY, I LIKE TO RAKE THEM UP BECAUSE THAT GIVES ME
11:15:44AM GREAT EXERCISE.
11:15:45AM AT 65, I NEED TO STRETCH, LOOSEN UP MY JOINTS, MY MUSCLES,
11:15:50AM LIGAMENTS, TENDONS.
11:15:51AM MY YARDMAN, HE TAKES MY BLOWER AND BLOWS THE LEAFS
11:15:55AM EVERYWHERE.
11:15:56AM IF WE COULD DO A COMMERCIAL, SEND OUT A FLYER WITH ALL OF
11:16:02AM THESE THINGS, ALERTING THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU
11:16:07AM DON'T DO.
11:16:09AM BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S ILLEGAL.
11:16:13AM THANK YOU.
11:16:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MS. TATE.
11:16:16AM MS. CANNELLA WILL CLOSE OUT.
11:16:28AM >> I'M ONLY GOING TO PUT ONE PICTURE.
11:16:30AM AND THAT IS THE PALMIRA DITCH.
11:16:32AM I'M ON BOTH SIDES OF SOUTH TAMPA.
11:16:34AM I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH THAT GENTLEMAN OVER
11:16:39AM THERE.
11:16:39AM WE ARE NOT READY FOR THIS RAINY AND HURRICANE SEASON.
11:16:44AM I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND I'VE LOOKED.
11:16:46AM WE ARE NOT READY.
11:16:48AM STORMWATER IS WAY, WAY BEHIND ON CLEANING THE DRAINAGE
11:16:54AM SYSTEM.
11:16:55AM DUE TO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:16:57AM ONE OF THEM IS THERE'S NO MANPOWER.
11:17:01AM OUR CITY IS DIVIDED INTO ZONES, THREE ZONES.
11:17:05AM THERE ARE ONLY EIGHT WORKERS IN OUR SOUTH TAMPA ZONE, WHICH
11:17:09AM IS FROM KENNEDY TO THE BASE, FROM WESTSHORE TO BAYSHORE.
11:17:18AM AND I HEAR NORTH TAMPA HAS EVEN LESS WORKERS.
11:17:21AM THESE EIGHT WORKERS HAVE BEEN PULLED TO DO SPECIAL EVENTS
11:17:26AM AND ROD AND SIDEWALK CAVE-INS BEFORE ANY OF THE DITCHES,
11:17:32AM PONDS, ANY OF OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM IS TO BE CLEANED.
11:17:35AM I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT BECAUSE I WAS TOLD.
11:17:38AM BECAUSE WHEN I CALLED IN JANUARY, I WAS VERY UPSET BECAUSE I
11:17:42AM WANTED THE PALMIRA DITCH ON THE SCHEDULE.
11:17:45AM AND I WAS TOLD DON'T WORRY, IT WILL BE HERE BY THE SEASON.
11:17:49AM I SAID OKAY.
11:17:50AM I'M STILL WAITING.
11:17:52AM THERE ARE TWO CONTRACTED HELP CREWS.
11:17:55AM AND THEY WERE JUST RECENTLY HIRED, JUST RECENTLY.
11:17:59AM LAST WEEK, KIMMINS STARTED WORKING AND FLOW TECH AS OF
11:18:04AM MONDAY HAS NOT WORKED.
11:18:05AM THEY ARE NOT OUT THERE.
11:18:07AM SO THE CREWS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IN JANUARY ARE NOT
11:18:10AM THERE.
11:18:10AM STORMWATER EQUIPMENT, I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU.
11:18:13AM IT'S GIVING ME A HEADACHE.
11:18:15AM IT'S OLD AND IT'S CONSTANTLY BREAKING DOWN AND IT'S NEVER
11:18:19AM AVAILABLE THE DAY THAT THE DITCH OR POND OR WHATEVER IS
11:18:23AM SCHEDULED TO BE DONE.
11:18:24AM THEY ARE ALWAYS BROKEN.
11:18:25AM THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.
11:18:27AM YES, THERE'S ONLY ONE SPIDER EXCAVATOR FOR ALL OF TAMPA.
11:18:30AM HOW STRANGE IS THAT?
11:18:31AM THERE ARE FIVE VACUUM TRUCKS, BUT THREE OF THEM ARE BROKEN.
11:18:36AM I JUST FOUND THAT OUT LAST WEEK.
11:18:38AM SO THERE'S TWO LEFT THAT ARE TO BE SHARED FOR ALL OF TAMPA.
11:18:43AM ALL OF TAMPA.
11:18:44AM ALL THE ZONES.
11:18:45AM MR. BRIAN ROGERS SAID THEY ARE RENTING EQUIPMENT.
11:18:49AM BUT NO DETAILS WERE GIVEN TO ME ON HOW MANY OR WHEN THEY
11:18:54AM WILL BE AVAILABLE.
11:18:56AM MAYBE NEXT YEAR.
11:18:57AM I KNOW THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH EQUIPMENT TO GET STORMWATER
11:19:01AM SYSTEM CLEANED.
11:19:03AM AND THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
11:19:05AM THERE IS NOTHING -- NOTHING IS GETTING DONE BECAUSE OF LACK
11:19:09AM OF MANPOWER, EQUIPMENT, AND PROPER MANAGEMENT.
11:19:12AM RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED AND FRUSTRATED.
11:19:14AM I KNOW I AM.
11:19:15AM LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT CALLING MOBILITY, YOU ARE PUT ON A
11:19:21AM LIST, GIVEN A NUMBER AND NOT SEEN FOR YEARS AND THE
11:19:25AM RESIDENTS DON'T LIKE IT.
11:19:27AM THEY ARE TIRED ABOUT IT, COMPLAINING ABOUT IT BECAUSE
11:19:29AM NOTHING IS GETTING DONE.
11:19:30AM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE BUDGET FOR THE
11:19:34AM HIGH-COST PROJECTS COME FROM, SUCH AS THE RIVERWALK AND THE
11:19:38AM BUILDING THEY JUST BUILT WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR
11:19:41AM STORMWATER.
11:19:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MS. CANNELLA, FOR YOUR
11:19:43AM COMMENTS.
11:19:44AM YOU'RE JUST PASSIONATE.
11:19:51AM NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
11:19:52AM OKAY.
11:19:53AM WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE FINAL ITEM UNDER MOBILITY, AND
11:19:56AM THAT IS TO REPORT ON THE DETAILED PERSONNEL, THIRD PARTY
11:20:01AM MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS.
11:20:04AM SURE, SHE CAN SET IT UP.
11:20:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY WE ACTUALLY HEARD, IN
11:20:12AM FACT, JUST HEARD FROM MS. CANNELLA TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
11:20:16AM THIS IS WHERE WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT.
11:20:19AM DURING THIS IF YOU COULD, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE
11:20:22AM IN PUBLIC COMMENT TALK ABOUT THE ZONES.
11:20:26AM MS. CANNELLA TOLD US, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD
11:20:30AM REITERATE.
11:20:34AM SO THANK YOU.
11:20:34AM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
11:20:35AM AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, BECAUSE WE DID -- I DID
11:20:41AM SUBMIT A MEMO AND WE TALKED ABOUT MOST OF THIS ON MAY 1st.
11:20:46AM SO I WON'T REPEAT MYSELF, BUT I WILL TOUCH UPON THE
11:20:50AM HIGHLIGHTS.
11:20:50AM I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING MS. CANNELLA IS ABSOLUTELY
11:20:54AM RIGHT.
11:20:54AM WE NEED MORE PEOPLE.
11:20:55AM WE NEED MORE EQUIPMENT.
11:20:57AM WE NEED MORE CONTRACTS.
11:20:59AM WE NEED MORE RESOURCES.
11:21:01AM THE WAY WE KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE WE ARE GIVEN A BUDGET EVERY
11:21:04AM YEAR, AND WE SPEND THAT BUDGET.
11:21:07AM SO WHAT SERVICE WE'RE PROVIDING BEYOND THAT, IF IT'S NOT
11:21:12AM ADEQUATE, IT'S BECAUSE WE NEED MORE RESOURCES.
11:21:15AM SO THE WAY TO GET THOSE RESOURCES, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO
11:21:23AM START WORKING ON A BUSINESS PLAN THAT WE ARE WORKING ON
11:21:27AM RIGHT NOW.
11:21:29AM I WILL ADMIT, THANKS TO YOU AND THE MOTION YOU MADE FOR
11:21:34AM MONTHLY REPORTS, THAT HAS GIVEN US REALLY GOOD INFORMATION,
11:21:38AM BECAUSE OUR WORK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS REALLY DOCUMENTING
11:21:43AM WHAT WORK IS BEING ALLOCATED WHERE.
11:21:46AM THERE'S NOT A LOT MORE INTELLIGENCE TO IT THAT WE COULD WORK
11:21:50AM ON GETTING MORE ANALYTICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:21:54AM BUT THE BUSINESS PLAN WE'RE WORKING ON IS TO UNDERSTAND HOW
11:21:57AM MANY PEOPLE, HOW MUCH MORE EQUIPMENT, WHAT IS THE STATE OF
11:22:00AM WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, AND THEN FOR DIFFERENT SERVICE
11:22:05AM LEVELS, ULTIMATELY WHAT SERVICE LEVELS ARE NEEDED.
11:22:09AM RIGHT NOW, OUR SERVICE LEVEL IS BASED OFF OF STATE AND DEP
11:22:15AM REGULATIONS.
11:22:16AM AND IF WE NEED TO IMPROVE UPON THOSE SERVICES LEVELS AND THE
11:22:21AM STATE IS LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL, THEY ARE TRYING TO CHANGE
11:22:24AM THOSE FREQUENCIES TO HALF.
11:22:26AM IF THAT HAPPENS, THERE IS A DIRECT CORRELATION THAT HASN'T
11:22:30AM BEEN ADOPTED YET AS A POLICY BECAUSE IT WILL IMPACT EVERY
11:22:34AM SINGLE JURISDICTION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT IS BEING
11:22:39AM WORKED ON.
11:22:39AM SO WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON IS A BUSINESS PLAN BY THE END OF
11:22:43AM THE CALENDAR YEAR TO BRING TO COUNCIL SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW
11:22:50AM FOR WHAT SERVICE LEVEL, WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT, PERSONNEL
11:22:56AM AND CONTRACTS AND RESOURCES ARE NEEDED.
11:22:59AM AND THEN BASED OFF OF THAT, IT WOULD BE A COLLABORATION TO
11:23:03AM FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THOSE RESOURCES.
11:23:06AM ONE POTENTIAL AVENUE WOULD BE TO FURTHER INCREASE THE
11:23:11AM STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
11:23:12AM OF COURSE, THERE IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT CALCULUS AROUND THAT.
11:23:16AM I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE EVEN, BUT WE'LL BE READY SHOULD
11:23:19AM THAT BE THE PATHWAY, BECAUSE THAT BEGINS, THE SHOT CLOCK ON
11:23:24AM THAT BEGINS EARLY IN THE CALENDAR YEAR IF THAT HAD TO BE
11:23:29AM INITIATED.
11:23:29AM I DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE COPIES ON THIS, BECAUSE OUR VEHICLE
11:23:36AM INVENTORY WAS SENT BASED ON A REQUEST MADE BY THE FINANCIAL
11:23:41AM ANALYST.
11:23:41AM SO I HAVEN'T MADE MORE COPIES.
11:23:44AM AND THERE ARE SOME MINOR ERRORS.
11:23:46AM TWO OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, THE COST
11:23:48AM SHOWS 20 MILLION, BUT IT'S 200,000.
11:23:52AM THAT'S WHY I DID NOT MAKE COPIES.
11:23:55AM I'LL JUST GO OVER WHAT EQUIPMENT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHAT OUR
11:24:07AM TEAM SAYS WE NEED RIGHT NOW.
11:24:09AM WE'RE GOING TO VALIDATE IT WITH THE BUSINESS PLAN AND
11:24:12AM MEASURE AGAINST BEST PRACTICES SO THAT NEXT YEAR, ONCE OUR
11:24:18AM ENGINEERING TEAM IS READY WITH PRIORITY PROJECTS, OUR
11:24:21AM OPERATIONS WILL ALSO BE READY WITH PRIORITIES RELATIVE TO
11:24:24AM RESOURCES.
11:24:25AM SO GENERALLY -- WE HAVE 76 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT TOTAL WITH AN
11:24:39AM AVERAGE LIFE OF ABOUT TEN YEARS.
11:24:41AM TEN YEARS IS PRETTY LONG.
11:24:44AM I MEAN, TYPICALLY YOU WANT TO REPLACE EQUIPMENT SIX YEARS TO
11:24:50AM EIGHT YEARS AT THE MOST.
11:24:52AM THIS AVERAGE LIFE IS, AGAIN, IT'S AVERAGE.
11:24:57AM SOME EQUIPMENT IS MUCH OLDER.
11:24:59AM OTHERS ARE NOT AS OLD.
11:25:03AM BUT IT'S A MUCH HIGHER AVERAGE LIFE THAN OUR OTHER UTILITY
11:25:07AM DEPARTMENTS.
11:25:08AM THAT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF RESOURCES.
11:25:11AM I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT IN GENERAL, WE HAVE
11:25:15AM OLDER EQUIPMENT THAN WATER AND WASTEWATER.
11:25:18AM CURRENTLY, WE LEASE SWEEPERS AND WE WILL BE LEASING VAC
11:25:23AM TRUCKS.
11:25:24AM THE REASON LEASING VAC TRUCKS AGAIN, MS. CANNELLA IS
11:25:28AM ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WE HAVE FIVE VAC TRUCKS.
11:25:30AM THREE OF THEM HAVE LOW AVAILABILITY.
11:25:34AM LET ME JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.
11:25:36AM SO AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY TRUCKS AS WE
11:25:40AM NEED.
11:25:41AM THIS YEAR IN WORKING WITH FLEET, WE DID LOOK AT DO WE
11:25:44AM PURCHASE THEM OR LEASE THEM?
11:25:46AM OUR TEAM OPTED FOR LEASING AFTER RUNNING THE NUMBERS.
11:25:51AM THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF SAVING, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE
11:25:54AM AVAILABILITY IS IMPORTANT.
11:25:55AM IT COMES WITH A CONTRACT.
11:25:57AM SO THANK YOU AGAIN.
11:26:00AM WE SHOULD TAKE POSSESSION OF THESE VAC TRUCKS IN THE NEXT
11:26:04AM FEW MONTHS I WANT TO SAY THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
11:26:07AM LEAD TIMES FOR ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS REALLY LONG.
11:26:10AM WHETHER WE PURCHASE IT OR LEASE IT, IT'S THE SAME.
11:26:13AM ONCE WE HAVE THREE VAC TRUCKS, THOSE THREE VAC TRUCKS WILL
11:26:16AM ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE.
11:26:18AM IF ONE GOES DOWN BY AGREEMENT, WE'LL GET A REPLACEMENT
11:26:21AM IMMEDIATELY.
11:26:21AM AND THAT WILL IMPROVE OUR LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE, WITH EVEN
11:26:27AM THE EXISTING TEAM.
11:26:28AM THE TEAM TELLS ME OUR PROCUREMENT OR REPLACEMENT PRIORITIES
11:26:33AM FOR VEHICLES ARE AS FOLLOWS: TV TRUCK, WE HAVE ONE TV TRUCK
11:26:39AM RIGHT NOW.
11:26:40AM WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND ON THE TV PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHY WE
11:26:44AM INCLUDED TV INSPECTIONS AS PART OF FLOW TECH'S CONTRACT WITH
11:26:48AM THE EMERGENCY AFFIDAVIT.
11:26:51AM THE EXCAVATOR, THE WHEELED ARTICULATING, SO THAT IS THE
11:26:56AM SPIDER BASICALLY.
11:26:57AM THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
11:26:59AM IT'S NOT MADE IN THE U.S. YET, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE LEAD
11:27:02AM TIME ON IT IS.
11:27:03AM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE COST OF THAT EQUIPMENT IS ABOUT --
11:27:07AM SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN AND EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND ALL TOLD.
11:27:11AM TWO FLAT BED TRUCKS, AND THEN MULTIPLE GRADING BUCKETS FOR
11:27:17AM EXISTING BACKHOES.
11:27:19AM THIS YEAR, COUNCIL DID APPROVE A COUPLE OF BACKHOES, SO WE
11:27:23AM HAVE ALREADY ADDED.
11:27:24AM IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE BOUGHT TEN NEW PIECES OF
11:27:29AM EQUIPMENT FOR THE STORMWATER TEAM.
11:27:32AM WITHIN MOBILITY OPERATIONS, TRANSPORTATION USED TO HAVE EVEN
11:27:35AM OLDER EQUIPMENT.
11:27:37AM IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE FOCUSED ON TRANSPORTATION MORE
11:27:40AM WITH THE EMPHASIS ON PAVING.
11:27:42AM WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE POSSESSION OF A NEW PAVER.
11:27:44AM I WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE
11:27:47AM REPLACED A LOT MORE EQUIPMENT ON THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE,
11:27:52AM WHICH IS MUCH, MUCH OLDER.
11:27:54AM EVEN OLDER THAN STORMWATER.
11:27:55AM THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHEN STORMWATER LOOKED GREAT NEXT
11:27:59AM TO TRANSPORTATION IN TERMS OF THE EQUIPMENT.
11:28:01AM WHEN YOU COMPARE US APPLES TO APPLES WITH ANY OF THE OTHER
11:28:05AM UTILITY DEPARTMENTS, WE FALL SHORT.
11:28:09AM I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS MUCH, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO
11:28:15AM EITHER TAKE QUESTIONS OR IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
11:28:18AM QUESTIONS, AND THEN I HAVE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ON THE
11:28:23AM INVENTORY, BUT WE SHARED THE ENTIRE INVENTORY.
11:28:28AM THIS IS A LITTLE HARDER TO READ BUT THIS IS WHERE THE ONE
11:28:30AM PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS 200,000.
11:28:32AM THAT'S WHY I DON'T HAVE SEVEN COPIES OF THIS BECAUSE IT
11:28:35AM WOULDN'T BE ACCURATE INFORMATION.
11:28:37AM BUT THIS IS FOR ALL OF THE ZONES.
11:28:38AM SO WE'VE GOT CITYWIDE IN THREE ZONES, AND WE DO HAVE
11:28:44AM SEPARATE EQUIPMENT FOR SEPARATE ZONES AND THE CITY SHARES
11:28:48AM SOME OF IT AS WELL.
11:28:52AM I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
11:28:56AM I THINK THIS ONE HAS $20 MILLION ITEM AS WELL AS 200,000.
11:29:02AM IN BOTH CASES, THEY ARE BACKHOES.
11:29:04AM THOSE ARE NEW PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, 2024.
11:29:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I WAS
11:29:12AM GOING TO ASK.
11:29:13AM GIVE US A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT YOU FEEL IS NEEDED WITH THE
11:29:17AM APPROXIMATE COST OF EACH ITEM AND HOW MUCH AGGREGATE IS THE
11:29:21AM TOTAL OF IT.
11:29:22AM ALSO, DO YOU HAVE THE EMPLOYMENT NOW TO HANDLE MORE TRUCKS?
11:29:25AM DO YOU HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO HANDLE MORE VEHICLES IF YOU
11:29:29AM WERE TO GET THEM?
11:29:30AM >>VIK BHIDE: THESE ARE ALL REPLACEMENT VEHICLES.
11:29:33AM SO, YES, WE DO HAVE THE PERSONNEL SHOULD WE REPLACE THESE
11:29:37AM VEHICLES.
11:29:37AM WE WILL DEFINITELY NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF, ADDITIONAL
11:29:42AM VEHICLES, AND ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS.
11:29:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
11:29:46AM ANYTHING ABOVE THE GRADE NOW, YOU NEED MORE PERSONNEL TO
11:29:49AM HANDLE THE UPSWING.
11:29:50AM >>VIK BHIDE: ABSOLUTELY.
11:29:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF NOT, NO NEED BUYING BECAUSE COULDN'T
11:29:55AM USE THEM.
11:29:55AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GIVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT
11:30:01AM YOU NEED IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU HAVE.
11:30:03AM >>VIK BHIDE: WE'LL KNOW THAT BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR
11:30:06AM YEAR JUST IN TIME FOR THIS BODY TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
11:30:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOWEVER, THAT COMES WITH THE CAVEAT THAT
11:30:11AM EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY, DOES THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU CAN
11:30:15AM BUY, IS IT READILY AVAILABLE TO BUY?
11:30:19AM >>VIK BHIDE: MUCH OF THE EQUIPMENT HAS A LEAD TIME OF ABOUT
11:30:24AM FOUR TO EIGHT MONTHS.
11:30:24AM IT JUST DEPENDS.
11:30:25AM JOHN DEERE MAY HAVE IT AVAILABLE OR CATERPILLAR MAY HAVE IT
11:30:30AM AVAILABLE BUT ON AVERAGE --
11:30:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US ALL THAT
11:30:34AM INFORMATION.
11:30:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:30:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD MY MIKE ON.
11:30:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE HAD HIS ON FOR A WHILE.
11:30:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS MY ITEM.
11:30:44AM GENERALLY WE GO TO THE PERSON WHOSE ITEM IT IS FIRST.
11:30:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S TRUE.
11:30:48AM THIS IS FINE.
11:30:49AM NO PROBLEM.
11:30:50AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:30:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DID WANT TO ASK, THANK YOU FOR THIS, BUT IT
11:30:59AM SEEMS LIKE NOW WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT THREE
11:31:04AM SECTIONS MAY NOT BE ENOUGH.
11:31:06AM IT SEEMS LIKE WE MIGHT NEED TO EXPAND TO AT LEAST FOUR.
11:31:10AM HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?
11:31:12AM >>VIK BHIDE: NOT YET.
11:31:13AM WE HAVE NOT.
11:31:14AM BUT WHEN WE DEVELOP THE BUSINESS PLAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE
11:31:17AM THINGS WE'LL LOOK AT BECAUSE THAT IS, IF WE HAVE TO SUPPORT
11:31:21AM EXPANDED OPERATIONS FOR DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICE, HOW DO
11:31:26AM WE ORGANIZE OURSELVES.
11:31:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:31:28AM THE SAME, I'LL ECHO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S INTEREST IN FTEs.
11:31:35AM IN MY ESTIMATION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE OF THESE SPIDERS,
11:31:42AM TV TRUCKS, WHATEVER, PER SECTION SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS ONE
11:31:46AM SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO BORROW.
11:31:49AM BUT I WILL SAY THAT WHILE I APPRECIATE THE BUSINESS PLAN AND
11:31:53AM THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO GOING FORWARD, I THINK
11:31:57AM THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION
11:31:59AM BEFORE THIS 2026 BUDGET SEASON.
11:32:02AM I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT A COUPLE OF FTEs, BUT REALLY,
11:32:07AM WHAT ELSE?
11:32:07AM WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED?
11:32:10AM WHAT TYPES OF -- IF WE'RE JUST LEASING THEM, WE STILL WANT
11:32:13AM TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT YOU NEED, WHAT KIND OF FTEs
11:32:18AM YOU'LL NEED, EVEN FOR THE YEAR OR TWO.
11:32:21AM BECAUSE IF WE DON'T START GETTING THAT, THE PUBLIC IS SAYING
11:32:24AM WE WANT TO SEE THAT.
11:32:25AM WHILE I APPRECIATE THE DEPTH AND TIME THAT GOES INTO A
11:32:29AM BUSINESS PLAN, I THINK THAT FOLKS CAN SEE THAT WE NEED
11:32:31AM PEOPLE.
11:32:32AM THEY CAN SEE THAT WE NEED EQUIPMENT.
11:32:35AM AND THE BUSINESS PLAN IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE NEED FOR
11:32:39AM EQUIPMENT OR PERSONNEL.
11:32:40AM SO IF WE WERE TO GET A JUMP START ON SOME OF THAT, I DON'T
11:32:43AM THINK THAT WILL MESS WITH THE IDEA OF A BUSINESS PLAN.
11:32:47AM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
11:32:47AM THE EQUIPMENT LISTED HERE IS A GOOD STARTING POINT.
11:32:50AM WE'LL ADD TO THAT.
11:32:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:32:53AM THEN I HAVE A MOTION AT THE END OF THIS.
11:32:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:32:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH ALL THAT.
11:33:02AM COULD YOU CONFIRM -- I'M GOING ON RECOLLECTION, BUT COULD
11:33:06AM YOU CONFIRM WHEN THE STORMWATER TAX WAS FIRST PASSED AND
11:33:10AM THEN IT WAS INCREASED I THINK AROUND 2016, CAN YOU CONFIRM
11:33:14AM WHAT THE YEARS WERE?
11:33:15AM >>VIK BHIDE: 2003 AND FY '16.
11:33:18AM LATE 2015.
11:33:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING A BUSINESS PLAN
11:33:24AM NOW.
11:33:25AM DO YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS A BUSINESS PLAN IN 2016 OR 2002?
11:33:31AM HAS ANYBODY EVER DONE A PLAN BEFORE?
11:33:34AM >>VIK BHIDE: I'M NOT AWARE.
11:33:35AM I'D HAVE TO FIND OUT.
11:33:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD ASK, MAYBE MS. KOPESKY, I DON'T KNOW
11:33:42AM IF WE NEED A MOTION, I WOULD ASK SOMEBODY, MAYBE MS. KOPESKY
11:33:46AM TO GO BACK TO 2002, MAYBE THE YEAR BEFORE TO SHOW US I GUESS
11:33:53AM THAT IT WAS ZERO AND 2002 WHAT THE STORMWATER TAX WAS ALL
11:33:57AM THOSE YEARS.
11:33:58AM I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY CAN PROVIDE BIG BUCKETS ON WHAT IT
11:34:01AM WAS USED FOR, BUT WE HAVE SINCE 2016 IN PARTICULAR, THAT ONE
11:34:05AM WAS VERY CONTROVERSIAL.
11:34:08AM I THINK THE PUBLIC EXPECTED AT A MINIMUM THAT BIG BUCKETS
11:34:12AM WOULD BE SPENT ON MAINTENANCE.
11:34:14AM IT WOULD BE INTERESTING JUST TO SEE THAT.
11:34:19AM SHOULD I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK FOR THAT?
11:34:21AM >> SURE.
11:34:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A MOTION TO ASK MS. KOPESKY TO TALK TO
11:34:28AM WORK WITH THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT TO JUST DO A TIMELINE OF
11:34:34AM THE STORMWATER REVENUES AND BIG BUCKETS OF EXPENDITURES
11:34:38AM SINCE 2001 JUST SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND THEN MAYBE YOU
11:34:45AM COULD GIVE IT TO US AS A WRITTEN REPORT WE WERE IT'S READY.
11:34:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ADDRESS THE MOTION BEFORE YOU GO ON.
11:34:52AM >>VIK BHIDE: MAY I REQUEST A MODIFICATION?
11:34:55AM ALSO INCLUDE REVENUE AND FINANCE BECAUSE THAT --
11:34:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
11:34:58AM INCLUDE REVENUE AND FINANCE.
11:34:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT SECOND WAS BY HURTAK.
11:35:02AM ANY DISCUSSION?
11:35:02AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:35:05AM >> AYE.
11:35:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OPPOSED?
11:35:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:35:10AM AND THEN I WONDER, I ALSO MENTIONED EARLIER THE IDEA OF A
11:35:17AM MULTI-DEPARTMENT TASK FORCE THAT WOULD LOOK AT ALL THESE
11:35:20AM THINGS IN AN INTEGRATED WAY.
11:35:22AM PEOPLE ARE REBUILDING THEIR HOUSES, IF THEY ARE NOT BUILDING
11:35:25AM THEM UP TO FEMA STANDARDS, WE'LL END UP HAVING TO SPEND A
11:35:28AM LOT OF MONEY.
11:35:29AM OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THINGS LIKE PROVIDING $400,000 GRANTS
11:35:32AM TO PEOPLE CAN RAISE THEIR HOUSES EIGHT FEET.
11:35:35AM I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE MIGHT BE, IF YOU LOOK AT OVER THE
11:35:39AM LONG RUN, THERE MIGHT BE RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE SOLUTIONS
11:35:42AM THAT WE COULD DO BESIDES THE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BIG
11:35:50AM PROJECTS TAKE YEARS TO IMPLEMENT.
11:35:52AM I KNOW, MR. BHIDE, YOU'RE LEAVING SOON.
11:35:59AM IS THERE ANY FINAL ADVICE YOU HAVE ON THIS OR ANY INSIGHT
11:36:04AM INTO WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS PLANNING IN THIS REGARD?
11:36:07AM IF YOU WERE SITTING WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND
11:36:11AM AT THIS POINT?
11:36:12AM >>VIK BHIDE: I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
11:36:14AM THANK YOU.
11:36:14AM FIRST AND OBVIOUS ONE IS RESOURCES.
11:36:20AM SO BOTH ON MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS CAPITAL, WE NEED MORE
11:36:25AM RESOURCES.
11:36:26AM I KNOW WE'RE DISCUSSING MAINTENANCE, AND MAINTENANCE IS
11:36:30AM CRITICAL.
11:36:31AM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IF WE LOOK AT AN INVENTORY OF
11:36:35AM OUR ASSETS AND THAT INVENTORY HAS JUST BEEN SHARED WITH
11:36:38AM MS. KOPESKY, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE LEGACY
11:36:43AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:36:43AM WHY IT MATTERS, IT'S NOT JUST AGE.
11:36:48AM 30, 40, 50 YEARS AGO, INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DESIGNED FOR
11:36:52AM DIFFERENT STORM CONDITIONS AND DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
11:36:54AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:36:55AM AND IF THAT UNDERLYING INFRASTRUCTURE, IF THE SKELETON,
11:37:01AM FULL, OR THE NERVOUS SYSTEM OF THE BODY IS WEAK TO BEGIN
11:37:05AM WITH, WHAT YOU EAT OR THAT NOURISHMENT ALONE IS NOT GOING TO
11:37:10AM BE ENOUGH IF THAT'S MAINTENANCE.
11:37:12AM YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE THE BONES OF THE SYSTEM.
11:37:15AM THAT IS, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, TAKES LONGER.
11:37:20AM COSTS MORE.
11:37:21AM BUT IT IS NECESSARY.
11:37:25AM WE ONLY SERIOUSLY STARTED INVESTING IN CAPITAL ASSETS SINCE
11:37:29AM FY '16, 2015, WHEN THAT IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT WAS PUT IN
11:37:34AM PLACE, AND WE SEE THAT THOSE PROJECTS HAVE YIELDED BENEFITS.
11:37:38AM SO WE NEED THAT.
11:37:40AM ULTIMATELY THAT IS THE SOLUTION TO MODERNIZE.
11:37:45AM OTHERWISE WE'RE REALLY WORKING WITH OUTDATED TECHNOLOGY THAT
11:37:49AM DOES NOT FIT TODAY'S CONTEXT AND WE'RE PUTTING BAND-AIDS ON
11:37:53AM IT.
11:37:53AM WE NEED MORE MAINTENANCE.
11:37:55AM NO DOUBT.
11:37:56AM OUR TEAM WORKS SIX DAYS A WEEK RIGHT NOW.
11:37:58AM THEY WORK VERY HARD.
11:38:00AM WE SPENT OUR ENTIRE BUDGET.
11:38:03AM WE GET AUDITED AND LET US GET AUDITED.
11:38:06AM THAT'S WONDERFUL.
11:38:07AM BUT CLEARLY, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
11:38:10AM YOU'RE HEARING THAT FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
11:38:13AM SO THERE HAS TO BE A REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT, WELL, WHAT DO WE
11:38:17AM DO ABOUT IT?
11:38:18AM IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT DISCUSSION BECAUSE IF WE REALLY
11:38:22AM LOOK AT THE RESOURCES NEEDED, SIMILAR TO PAVING, DO ADDRESS
11:38:27AM SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES, IT'S GOING TO BE BIGGER NUMBERS.
11:38:30AM BUT THERE'S NOT ANY EASIER PATH FORWARD GIVEN THE HEADWINDS
11:38:35AM THAT WE FACE FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT AND INVESTMENT
11:38:39AM IS THE REAL ANSWER IF WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE REAL PROBLEM.
11:38:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. BHIDE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
11:38:48AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS JUST ABOUT THE PERSONNEL.
11:38:50AM THE SIX DAYS A WEEK IS THAT A STAGGERED WORKFORCE OR ARE
11:38:53AM THEY BEING PAID OVER TIME?
11:38:56AM >>VIK BHIDE: WE'RE USING OVERTIME, AND WE START WITH
11:38:58AM VOLUNTARY, BUT DEPENDING ON THE JOBS AT TIMES WE HAVE TO
11:39:02AM INSIST THAT TEAMS COME IN TO DO WHAT OUR ROLES ARE.
11:39:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THIS CONSIDERED A HIGH PRIORITY,
11:39:10AM PERIOD, FOR INSISTING?
11:39:12AM >>VIK BHIDE: THIS IS A HIGH PRIORITY AS LEAST THROUGH AS
11:39:17AM MUCH AS WE CAN DO.
11:39:19AM SO LONG AS IT IS NOT RAINING, WE'LL KEEP WORKING THROUGH
11:39:22AM THIS.
11:39:22AM WE ALSO ADDED A THIRD SHIFT FOR STORM RESPONSES.
11:39:26AM WE USED TO HAVE TWO SHIFTS.
11:39:27AM NOW WE HAVE A THIRD SHIFT PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE HAVE
11:39:30AM AFTERNOON STORMS AND WE NEED PEOPLE AFTER THAT.
11:39:33AM WE CAN'T USE OVERTIME BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE BEST
11:39:38AM UTILIZATION OF RESOURCES.
11:39:39AM I PERSONALLY HAVE SAT DOWN WITH BRIAN AND JT, WHO IS OUR
11:39:43AM STORMWATER CHIEF, AND THE ENTIRE STORMWATER TEAM, AND WE'VE
11:39:49AM TALKED ABOUT THESE PRIORITIES.
11:39:50AM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REAL CHALLENGES THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS.
11:39:54AM REAL CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE AROUND RESOURCES.
11:39:57AM I THINK THE TEAM UNDERSTANDS THE MISSION.
11:40:02AM THEY NEED HELP.
11:40:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:40:03AM BASED ON THE OVER-TIME, THE FTE SHORTAGE WOULD BE WHAT IN
11:40:09AM TERMS OF PERSONNEL?
11:40:10AM HOW MANY PEOPLE WE WOULD NEED RIGHT NOW --
11:40:13AM >>VIK BHIDE: I DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT THERE ARE TWO
11:40:17AM TYPES OF CHALLENGES.
11:40:18AM ONE IS TURNOVER.
11:40:20AM FOR WHATEVER REASON, NEW PEOPLE THAT COME IN MAY OR MAY NOT
11:40:29AM STAY AS LONG.
11:40:30AM SHARING FACTS AS THEY ARE.
11:40:31AM AND THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES AND JOBS FOR
11:40:34AM PEOPLE AS WELL.
11:40:37AM THAT'S ONE PART OF IT.
11:40:38AM OVERALL, WE DO NEED MORE PERSONNEL.
11:40:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS THE DESCRIPTION OF THE BASIC JOB
11:40:44AM FUNCTION FOR STORMWATER STAFF IN THIS REGARD FOR
11:40:47AM MAINTENANCE?
11:40:48AM >>VIK BHIDE: WE HAVE LEVELS OF TECHNICIANS.
11:40:50AM IT BEGINS AT TECH 1.
11:40:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT DOES THAT REQUIRE?
11:40:53AM THAT IS THE ONLY ONE I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT, GET ONE ON BOARD.
11:40:58AM >>VIK BHIDE: RIGHT NOW ALL IT REQUIRES IS A HIGH SCHOOL
11:41:01AM DIPLOMA.
11:41:01AM THE REASON IS THERE USED TO BE OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN THE
11:41:04AM PAST.
11:41:05AM WE REMOVED THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
11:41:08AM MY INSTRUCTION TO THE TEAM WAS LET'S HIRE BASICALLY
11:41:14AM DISPOSITION, ATTITUDE, AND WILLINGNESS TO DO THE JOB, AND WE
11:41:18AM WILL TRAIN THEM ONCE THEY COME ON BOARD.
11:41:21AM THAT'S NOT REQUIRED TRAINING IN ADVANCE.
11:41:24AM JUST HIRE FOR THE RIGHT TYPE OF ATTITUDE AND TRAIN THEM ONCE
11:41:27AM THEY ARE ON.
11:41:28AM WE HAVE THIS CHALLENGE WITH CDLs AS WELL, AND WE'RE
11:41:31AM WORKING WITH HR AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS,
11:41:34AM RISK AND ALL, AROUND THAT ALSO.
11:41:36AM BECAUSE THAT CDL REQUIREMENT, FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME
11:41:41AM MEANT WE GOT A LOT OF TRUCK DRIVERS WANTING TO WORK BUT THEY
11:41:47AM DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE OTHER WORK AS WELL.
11:41:49AM SO IT WAS HARD TO KEEP THEM ON.
11:41:51AM AGAIN, IF WE COULD GET RID OF THE REQUIREMENT, HIRE THE
11:41:54AM RIGHT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO THE WORK AND WE'LL TRAIN THEM.
11:41:57AM IT WILL BE A HIGHER COST IN THE SHORT TERM, BUT REPLACING AN
11:42:02AM EMPLOYEE IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
11:42:03AM THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART OF OUR BUSINESS IN OPERATIONS AND
11:42:07AM MAINTENANCE IS ROLLING A TRUCK.
11:42:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW MUCH DOES THIS AMAZING JOB PAY AT A
11:42:13AM LEVEL ONE?
11:42:15AM >>VIK BHIDE: SO SINCE MAYOR CASTOR INCREASED SALARIES AND
11:42:18AM SHE CAME IN, OUR PAYS ARE PRETTY COMPETITIVE.
11:42:21AM THEY ARE NOT FOR A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA AND MINIMAL
11:42:25AM EXPERIENCE, IT'S ABOUT 40 SOMETHING THOUSAND A YEAR.
11:42:29AM BUT THAT'S JUST STARTING.
11:42:31AM AND IT COMES WITH BENEFITS AS WELL.
11:42:33AM AND THEN IT SCALES UP FROM THERE.
11:42:35AM WE HAVE TECH 3s RIGHT NOW THAT MAKE SIX FIGURES BECAUSE
11:42:39AM THEY HAVE EARNED IT.
11:42:40AM THAT'S HOW OUR SYSTEM IS DESIGNED.
11:42:43AM IF YOU WORK LONGER, YOU ACCRUE THOSE COST-OF-LIVING
11:42:48AM INCREASES AS YOU SHOULD.
11:42:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:42:50AM LAST QUESTION, ARE WE CURRENTLY ADVERTISING THE NEED FOR
11:42:55AM TEXT?
11:42:56AM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
11:42:57AM WE ARE ALWAYS HIRING.
11:42:58AM THANKFULLY OUR CURRENT VACANCY RATE FOR STORMWATER
11:43:01AM OPERATIONS ISN'T VERY HIGH.
11:43:03AM WE'VE HIRED ON A FEW FOLKS.
11:43:05AM SO I THINK WE'VE GOT ONLY A FEW VACANCIES RIGHT NOW, BUT THE
11:43:10AM TURNOVER IS THE BIGGER CHALLENGE FOR US.
11:43:13AM AND THIS IS INDUSTRYWIDE.
11:43:14AM IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO US.
11:43:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:43:17AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:43:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:43:18AM I FORGOT TO ASK ABOUT THIS, BUT YOU REMINDED ME WHEN YOU
11:43:23AM WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CDL.
11:43:25AM I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S PART OF WHY WE ARE USING OUR
11:43:31AM STORMWATER TO DO PARADE SETUP.
11:43:36AM SO COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT?
11:43:39AM BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO KNOW IS HOW MUCH IT
11:43:41AM WOULD COST TO BE ABLE TO CONTRACT THOSE FOLKS OUT.
11:43:45AM I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT AND THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE
11:43:49AM THAT AS PART OF THE '26 BUDGET BECAUSE WE'LL WILLINGLY FUND
11:43:54AM THAT SO THAT OUR STORMWATER PEOPLE CAN BE DOING WHAT THEY
11:43:58AM NEED TO DO DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE DRY SEASON.
11:44:04AM >>VIK BHIDE: COMPLETELY AGREE.
11:44:05AM THAT IS BEING WORKED WITH TPD AND THE ADMINISTRATION RIGHT
11:44:08AM NOW AS I UNDERSTAND IT THROUGH THE FY '26 BUDGET CYCLE.
11:44:11AM IT WILL BE DISCUSSED IN THE WORKSHOPS AS WELL.
11:44:15AM I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC COSTS.
11:44:17AM WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT THE NEED FOR SECURITY, VALID NEED FOR
11:44:24AM SECURITY THROUGH SOME OF THESE EVENTS HAS INCREASED.
11:44:28AM SO THIS IS A VERY TIMELY DISCUSSION.
11:44:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD.
11:44:31AM EXCELLENT.
11:44:32AM I HAVE A MOTION.
11:44:32AM I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT MOBILITY STAFF HAS DONE
11:44:35AM TO PRESENT THIS AS OTHER MEMBERS HAVE SAID.
11:44:38AM THIS IS REALLY WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW.
11:44:41AM I KNOW IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED.
11:44:43AM BUT PEOPLE ARE REALLY WANTING TO KNOW WHAT'S BEING DONE.
11:44:48AM I DO APPRECIATE THE AGREEMENT FOR LEVEL OF DETAIL.
11:44:51AM FOLKS ARE REALLY SCARED RIGHT NOW.
11:44:53AM THE FIRST RAINFALL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE GOT PEOPLE VERY
11:44:58AM UPSET CALLING US REALLY WORRIED.
11:45:01AM I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GETTING THOSE SAME PHONE CALLS.
11:45:04AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THIS RIGHT
11:45:07AM NOW, I DON'T EXPECT THIS TO GO ON FOREVER BUT FOR A WHILE
11:45:13AM LONGER, THESE MONTHLY REPORTS HELP CONNECT US AND THE PEOPLE
11:45:16AM TO WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEY REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:45:18AM I GET A LOT OF THANKS FOR WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING OUT HERE AND
11:45:21AM FOR THE WORK OF YOUR TEAM.
11:45:23AM BUT TO RESPECT STAFF'S TIME, I WOULD LIKE MS. KOPESKY, CITY
11:45:27AM BUDGET ANALYST TO CREATE SCHEDULES REFLECTING THE EQUIPMENT
11:45:31AM IN SERVICE USED TO SUPPORT STORMWATER MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES
11:45:34AM ALONG WITH THE ASSOCIATED AGE FOR EACH ASSET AND A SUMMARY
11:45:39AM OF STORMWATER MAINTENANCE EXPENSES BY VENDOR FOR 2024 AND
11:45:45AM 2025 YEAR TO DATE.
11:45:47AM MY MOTION IS THAT STAFF WORK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET
11:45:50AM ANALYST TO COMPLETE THESE SCHEDULES REFERENCED ABOVE AND BE
11:45:54AM AVAILABLE TO VERIFY THE ACCURACY OF THE DATA AND TO ANSWER
11:45:56AM ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE MOTION ON JULY
11:46:01AM 31st, 2025.
11:46:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THERE DISCUSSION?
11:46:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS I WORKED WITH MS. KOPESKY ON.
11:46:09AM SO SHE IS AWARE OF IT.
11:46:12AM WE DO HAVE -- WE ARE LIMITED -- ACTUALLY, WHAT I CAN DO IS I
11:46:16AM CAN REQUEST THIS AS A STAFF REPORT ON JULY 31st.
11:46:20AM I CAN WORK WITH YOUR TEAM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:46:23AM AND THEN IF THERE ARE MORE REPORTS, WE CAN REPORT IT OUT AT
11:46:28AM ANOTHER MEETING.
11:46:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:46:31AM ANY DISCUSSION?
11:46:32AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:46:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M FINE.
11:46:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:46:47AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:46:49AM >> AYE.
11:46:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT A WRITTEN REPORT?
11:46:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CHANGED IT TO WRITTEN BECAUSE OF THAT.
11:46:56AM I WILL PUT THAT ON THERE.
11:46:59AM AGAIN, I'LL WORK WITH MS. KOPESKY AND STAFF SO IF WE NEED TO
11:47:02AM CHANGE ANYTHING.
11:47:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY
11:47:07AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:47:08AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:47:10AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:47:12AM >> AYE.
11:47:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OPPOSED?
11:47:13AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:47:14AM THANK YOU.
11:47:15AM NOW WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS AREA, STARTING WITH
11:47:19AM MS. CANNELLA.
11:47:21AM OR MS. BULLOCK.
11:47:23AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:47:45AM >> BEAR WITH ME, I HAVE PICTURES.
11:48:17AM >> I THINK YOU ALL KNOW MY NAME.
11:48:32AM >> YOU HAVE TO STATE IT FOR THE RECORD.
11:48:33AM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
11:48:35AM I SENT A LETTER OF CONCERN TO THE DEP ABOUT THE LACK OF
11:48:41AM MAINTENANCE IN OUR RETENTION PONDS AND STORM DRAINS
11:48:45AM CONTAINING POLLUTANTS.
11:48:46AM NOW, YOU GOT THE ANSWER THAT I GOT FROM THE CITY TO THEM.
11:48:52AM I WANT TO START AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS NO ASPHALT
11:48:57AM RELATED DAMAGE OR DEBRIS WAS OBSERVED WITHIN THE STORMWATER
11:49:01AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:49:02AM AND THERE IT IS.
11:49:03AM THIS IS ALL ASPHALT.
11:49:07AM NOT TO MENTION THAT YELLOW STRIP OF PLASTIC THAT IS LEFT
11:49:13AM THERE.
11:49:14AM PLEASE PUT THE SECOND ONE.
11:49:15AM THIS IS A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER, AND THERE IS THE SAME DRAIN,
11:49:22AM AND THIS IS ALL IN HYDE PARK, AND WE HAVE MORE ASPHALT.
11:49:26AM THE OTHER ASPHALT THAT YOU SAW ON THE CURB IS INSIDE THE
11:49:29AM WATER DRAIN WITH A LITTLE PLASTIC YELLOW THERE THAT YOU
11:49:32AM COULD SEE.
11:49:33AM SO THERE IS MY PROOF.
11:49:35AM SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY LOOKED AT, BUT THEY DIDN'T
11:49:38AM LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN WHAT I SAW.
11:49:40AM LET'S GO WITH NUMBER TWO.
11:49:44AM I SENT IT TO THE CITY.
11:49:56AM THEY LOOKED IN IT AND SAID THERE WAS NOTHING THERE.
11:49:59AM LET ME READ IT TO YOU.
11:50:00AM THE CITY OF TAMPA MOBILITY DEPARTMENT STORMWATER OPERATION
11:50:05AM STAFF INVESTIGATED THE AREA OF CONCERN AND AFTER A THOROUGH
11:50:09AM FIELD ASSESSMENT, NO ISSUES WERE OBSERVED ON-SITE.
11:50:13AM IT'S RIGHT THERE.
11:50:15AM AND THEN THE FOLLOWING STORMWATER INVENTORY WAS INSPECTED
11:50:18AM WITH STAFF FINDING DETAILS BELOW.
11:50:22AM SO THE STORM DRAINS, THE CATCH BASINS, IT'S ALL THERE.
11:50:26AM LET'S SHOW THE PICTURE.
11:50:27AM HERE IS SWANN POND AND HERE IS ALL THE GARBAGE.
11:50:30AM THE TRASH.
11:50:31AM YOU CAN SEE THE WATER IS GREEN.
11:50:32AM HASN'T BEEN CLEANED.
11:50:33AM I PUT IN A REQUEST, I GOT A NUMBER.
11:50:36AM I ASKED FOR SOMEBODY TO CALL ME.
11:50:37AM TWO WEEKS LATER I'M STILL WAITING.
11:50:39AM PLEASE PUT THE SECOND ONE.
11:50:41AM THERE IS MORE OF THE SWANN POND.
11:50:45AM IT'S A MESS.
11:50:47AM STILL HASN'T BEEN CLEANED.
11:50:48AM IT LOOKS LIKE THAT TODAY BECAUSE I WALKED IT.
11:50:51AM PLEASE GO ON.
11:50:52AM AND THIS IS THE LAST ONE.
11:50:55AM THIS IS THE ONE ON AUDUBON, HORATIO, AND ARMENIA.
11:51:01AM THAT BIG POND OUT THERE.
11:51:02AM LOOK AT ALL THE TRASH.
11:51:04AM BUT THEY TELL ME THERE'S NO TRASH.
11:51:06AM AND ALL THAT TRASH GOES IN THE DRAIN AND I WALKED IT.
11:51:10AM THAT DRAIN OVER THERE IN THE CORNER, YOU CAN SEE THE LEVEL
11:51:12AM AND YOU HAVE PICTURES TO PROVE IT, THAT ONE LITTLE BIT OF
11:51:16AM RAIN AND IT ALL FILLED UP AND ALL THAT GARBAGE WENT INTO THE
11:51:20AM DRAINS.
11:51:20AM IT ALL FLOODED ON HORATIO AND ALL COMES DOWN AUDUBON.
11:51:25AM IT'S ALL FLOODED.
11:51:26AM THEY ALL HAVE TRASH IN THEM AND WHATEVER.
11:51:29AM THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CLEANED EVEN THOUGH THE CITY MOBILITY
11:51:32AM SAYS IT HAS.
11:51:32AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
11:51:34AM I'M TIRED.
11:51:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:51:38AM MS. BULLOCK.
11:51:41AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:51:41AM >> THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
11:51:47AM >> HI.
11:51:47AM VALERIE BULLOCK.
11:51:49AM I WAS SITTING BACK THERE BRAINSTORMING.
11:51:52AM I GOT A GOOD IDEA FOR EAST TAMPA.
11:51:54AM WE ALREADY HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM.
11:51:57AM THOSE GUYS, THEY DRIVE THOSE BIG TRUCKS, SO THEY ALREADY
11:52:02AM KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT, CDL, SOMETHING
11:52:08AM LIKE THAT.
11:52:08AM BUT MAYBE WE CAN HIRE THEM FOR STORMWATER AND THEN WE CAN
11:52:16AM JUST REPLACE OUR GUYS FROM EAST TAMPA.
11:52:19AM AND IT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA THAT'S LOOKING FOR
11:52:23AM JOBS.
11:52:23AM SO IF WE DON'T DO THAT, MAYBE WE CAN DO A TRAINING PROGRAM
11:52:27AM WITH STORMWATER BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY YOU'RE DOING LAWN
11:52:31AM SERVICE, BUT YOU STEP IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND LEARN HOW TO
11:52:34AM DRIVE THE FORKLIFT, BACKHOE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
11:52:38AM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.
11:52:41AM THANK YOU.
11:52:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MS. BULLOCK, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
11:52:44AM MS. SANCHEZ, ARE YOU PASSING?
11:52:48AM WHAT ABOUT YOU, MS. POYNOR?
11:52:50AM YOU'RE ON THIS ITEM AS WELL.
11:52:53AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING.
11:52:59AM AND MR. MICHELINI, YOU'RE NEXT.
11:53:11AM AFTER MS. POYNOR.
11:53:15AM AND THEN MS. FERRELLI.
11:53:22AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:53:23AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:53:25AM GOOD MORNING.
11:53:25AM IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY ALREADY, HASN'T IT?
11:53:27AM I JUST WANTED TO LOOK AND SEE IF THERE WERE ANY LISTINGS FOR
11:53:31AM STORMWATER ON THE PAGE.
11:53:33AM WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE, OH, WE'RE ADVERTISING ALL THE
11:53:37AM TIME.
11:53:38AM BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK UP CITY OF TAMPA JOBS, IS THERE
11:53:43AM ANYTHING FOR STORMWATER ON HERE?
11:53:45AM I'M LOOKING AND SAYING, MMM, MAYBE NOT.
11:53:48AM I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I DON'T SEE IT.
11:53:50AM I ALWAYS WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
11:53:53AM I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE UNDER SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT SEEING, BUT
11:53:56AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:53:57AM I WANTED TO SHOW YOU GUYS THIS MAP BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY
11:54:01AM PRETTY INTERESTING TO MOST OF YOU.
11:54:02AM LOOK, THEY MADE THE MAP -- THEY LABELED IT JUST FOR ME.
11:54:07AM ANYWAY.
11:54:08AM THANK YOU CCTV PEOPLE.
11:54:11AM WHEN I MET WITH THE GUYS, BLACK & VEATCH, WHATEVER THEIR
11:54:14AM NAME IS, THEY TOLD ME THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT HAVE
11:54:16AM THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO THIS FOR THE CITY.
11:54:20AM WHAT IS THE TECHNOLOGY?
11:54:24AM AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO
11:54:29AM TELL US WHERE EVERYBODY IS AT.
11:54:30AM I'M REALLY KIND OF CONCERNED BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT ON
11:54:32AM HERE AND MR. BHIDE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHOW IT TO YOU.
11:54:36AM I DON'T SEE THAT IT SAYS STORMWATER TECH OR ROAD TECH OR
11:54:39AM ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE LIST.
11:54:41AM I JUST STARTED LOG IT UP WHEN YOU CALLED MY NAME.
11:54:44AM OH, WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.
11:54:46AM WE'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY, OH, WELL, WE HAVE TO GET THESE PEOPLE
11:54:49AM IN HERE TO GO TO WORK AND THEN THERE'S NO ADVERTISEMENTS FOR
11:54:52AM THEM.
11:54:52AM GO FIGURE.
11:54:53AM DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
11:54:57AM I WOULD THINK, ONCE AGAIN, YOU'RE TELLING ME YOUR
11:55:01AM UNDERSTAFFED BUT YET SPENDING 28 DAYS OF THE YEAR DOING
11:55:05AM SOMETHING BESIDES STORMWATER.
11:55:06AM SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE NEED TO REPRIORITIZE WHERE OUR
11:55:12AM STORMWATER DEPARTMENT IS WORKING.
11:55:15AM MR. BHIDE CAME IN HERE AND SAID THAT WE PULLED 11 PEOPLE OFF
11:55:19AM THE STORMWATER FUND, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO REPAY THE
11:55:22AM STORMWATER FUND.
11:55:23AM WE ONLY GET 25 MILLION A YEAR.
11:55:26AM SO IF YOU TAKE ONE, TWO MILLION, WHATEVER IT IS, BECAUSE IT
11:55:30AM WAS DIFFERENT PRICES.
11:55:31AM I DON'T REMEMBER FROM THE BUDGET MEETING, EVERYBODY SHOULD
11:55:34AM HAVE BEEN IN THE BUDGET MEETING LAST WEEK, MR. BHIDE AND YOU
11:55:39AM DID A GREAT JOB TALKING TO US ABOUT STORMWATER, BUT I STILL
11:55:43AM HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH PULLING THEM OFF STORMWATER FOR --
11:55:47AM THAT IS A WHOLE MONTH THAT THEY ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOBS.
11:55:51AM I WOULD ALSO OFFER, IS THAT MISAPPROPRIATION OF FUNDS?
11:55:56AM IF YOU ARE BEING PAID FOR BY MY TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING
11:56:01AM PAID FOR STORMWATER AND YOU'RE DOING PARADE WORK, IS THAT
11:56:06AM APPROPRIATE?
11:56:06AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:56:08AM I JUST WORK HERE.
11:56:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. MICHELINI.
11:56:13AM THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
11:56:18AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
11:56:19AM IT'S CLEAR THAT THE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
11:56:23AM THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF FOR ACTUAL FIELD WORK AND THEY
11:56:28AM DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EQUIPMENT.
11:56:29AM IF YOU HAVE ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT BREAK DOWN AND YOU CAN'T
11:56:32AM DO ANYTHING IN THE CITY, THAT'S UNCONSCIONABLE.
11:56:37AM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET TO THAT POINT.
11:56:39AM WE NEED TO PROVIDE ENOUGH FIELD EMPLOYEES, NOT SUPERVISORS
11:56:44AM AND PLANNERS.
11:56:46AM AND THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE THAT IT WAS A DISPROPORTIONAL
11:56:49AM NUMBER OF PLANNERS IN AN ADMIN STAFF VERSUS ACTUAL FIELD
11:56:53AM WORKERS.
11:56:53AM I THINK THAT WHEN YOU'RE ASKING MS. KOPESKY TO LOOK AT THAT,
11:56:58AM THAT YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL.
11:57:00AM GETTING THE JOB DONE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, WHETHER
11:57:09AM MAINTENANCE OR INSTALLATION.
11:57:11AM VIK HAS TOLD YOU, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TOLD YOU, I'VE SAID IT
11:57:14AM TO YOU.
11:57:16AM YOU CAN'T GET THE JOB DONE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE AND
11:57:19AM DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.
11:57:20AM PROVIDE THE FIELD EMPLOYEES AND PROVIDE THE EQUIPMENT,
11:57:23AM WHETHER YOU HAVE TO LEASE IT AND WE'RE GOING INTO A
11:57:27AM STORMWATER -- YOU KNOW, A PERIOD OF TIME THAT'S COMING UP.
11:57:31AM WE CAN'T GET THE JOB DONE AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON NORTH TAMPA.
11:57:35AM SOUTH TAMPA IS THE ONE THAT HAD MOST OF THE FLOODING,
11:57:38AM ALTHOUGH THERE WAS SOME IN NORTH TAMPA TOO.
11:57:41AM WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO IT.
11:57:45AM WE'LL GET TO IT NEXT.
11:57:46AM THE NEXT DOESN'T CUT IT.
11:57:49AM PALMA CEIA PINES, PARKLAND.
11:57:51AM YOU HAD NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GO,
11:57:56AM EXCEPT YOU'LL HAVE TO COMMIT THE FUNDS TO DO IT.
11:57:59AM $25 MILLION THAT'S SITTING THERE IN THE STORMWATER BUDGET
11:58:05AM NEEDS TO BE ALLOCATED CORRECTLY.
11:58:08AM I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ALLOCATIONS ARE, BUT WE NEED TO FOCUS
11:58:13AM ON FIELD WORK, EQUIPMENT, AND GETTING THE JOB DONE IN THE
11:58:18AM FIELD.
11:58:19AM MS. CANNELLA POINTED OUT THE MAINTENANCE.
11:58:21AM I SHOWED YOU THE SAME PICTURES OF THE SWANN POND, AGAIN,
11:58:28AM LOOK AFTER THOSE FINES, CREATE A TIP LINE.
11:58:32AM YOU HAVE IT FOR OTHER THINGS.
11:58:34AM WHY NOT CREATE A TIP LINE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE DUMPING TRASH
11:58:37AM AND DEBRIS INTO THE STORMWATER SYSTEM?
11:58:42AM TAKE A PICTURE.
11:58:43AM IT'S SIMPLE.
11:58:43AM YOU SEE THEM DOING IT, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO CONFRONT THEM,
11:58:47AM BUT TAKE A PICTURE OF THEIR LICENSE PLATE OR THE TRUCK OR
11:58:50AM WHATEVER THEY ARE USING AND TURN THEM IN.
11:58:52AM YOU NEED TO AGGRESSIVELY GO AFTER THIS.
11:58:56AM EVERYONE IS IN DANGER WHEN YOU DESTROY THAT SYSTEM.
11:59:00AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:59:01AM WHEN YOU HAVE THE BUSINESSES, YOU HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS,
11:59:03AM YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTS ALL SAYING THE SAME THING, TAKE IT --
11:59:11AM AND I THINK IT'S VALID.
11:59:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
11:59:14AM MS. FERRELLI, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS?
11:59:16AM OKAY.
11:59:17AM SO WE ARE CLOSING OUT MOBILITY'S REPORT.
11:59:23AM LET ME HIT MY LITTLE BUTTON HERE.
11:59:26AM YES, MA'AM.
11:59:33AM I'M SORRY, MS. TATE.
11:59:37AM I WILL ACCEPT THAT YOU CAN SPEAK.
11:59:42AM YOU DID NOT.
11:59:43AM I KNOW FOR THAT ONE, BUT YOU WANT IT SPEAK?
11:59:49AM >> JUST A MINUTE.
11:59:50AM MR. BHIDE LEFT BUT $1,666.67 -- FRAN TATE, JACKSON HEIGHTS
12:00:02PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND COMMUNITY SAFETY WATCH
12:00:05PM PRESIDENT.
12:00:05PM PRO TEM CHAIR, CHAIR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I JUST
12:00:12PM WANTED MR. BHIDE -- HE'S GONE -- HE HAS A TURNOVER RATE WITH
12:00:16PM TECH ONE POSITION, $1,666.67 BIWEEKLY.
12:00:27PM THAT'S PROBABLY WHY HE HAS A TURNOVER RATE.
12:00:31PM HOW CAN YOU LIVE ON ONE THOUSAND -- AND THAT'S BEFORE TAXES.
12:00:35PM SALARY INCREASE IS NEEDED DEPENDING ON WHATEVER THEY ARE
12:00:37PM DOING, SALARY INCREASES NEEDED.
12:00:39PM I'LL TELL MR. BHIDE, CAN I REPEAT MYSELF?
12:00:44PM I HAVE THREE MINUTES.
12:00:46PM $1,666.66 BIWEEKLY BEFORE TAXES FOR TECH ONE.
12:00:53PM MR. BHIDE, THAT COULD ALSO BE A PART OF THE REASON THAT YOU
12:00:58PM HAVE A TURNOVER RATE WITH YOUR TECH ONE EMPLOYEES.
12:01:03PM THANK YOU.
12:01:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:01:04PM OKAY.
12:01:07PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5 IS THE STAFF TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY
12:01:13PM OF CREATING A CITY FUND.
12:01:14PM THIS IS MR. CARLSON.
12:01:16PM YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF OR SAY SOMETHING?
12:01:18PM MR. BRODY IS HERE.
12:01:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: SET IT UP.
12:01:23PM I APOLOGIZE, MR. BRODY AND I WERE PLAYING PHONE TAG
12:01:27PM YESTERDAY.
12:01:27PM THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THERE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE
12:01:33PM BOUGHT PROPERTY NOT KNOWING THAT THERE MIGHT BE GRAVES ON
12:01:37PM THERE AND THEN SUDDENLY THERE IS A SUSPICION THAT THERE ARE
12:01:44PM GRAVES.
12:01:44PM THERE ARE TWO COSTS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE.
12:01:46PM ONE IS TO SEARCH, USE THE GROUND PENETRATING RADAR TO
12:01:51PM SEARCH.
12:01:51PM THE SECOND THING IS IF GRAVES ARE FOUND, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE
12:01:56PM PROPERTY?
12:01:56PM IDEALLY THE CITY WOULD HAVE A FUND TO EITHER RELOCATE THE
12:02:00PM GRAVES OR TO PROTECT THEM AND BUY THAT PROPERTY.
12:02:04PM EXAMPLES RECENTLY, A JEWISH ORGANIZATION WAS LOOKING TO BUY
12:02:07PM A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS SUSPECTED TO HAVE GRAVES ON IT.
12:02:12PM A RESTAURANT OWNER HAD A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY WORTH A LOT
12:02:15PM OF MONEY THAT HAD GRAVES ON IT.
12:02:17PM THAT PARTICULAR OWNER DECIDED I THINK TO DONATE THE LAND BUT
12:02:21PM NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD TO DONATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH
12:02:24PM OF LAND.
12:02:25PM SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN SBP WAS BEING BUILT, IT WAS
12:02:30PM DISCOVERED THAT THE FORT BROOKE GRAVE WAS UNDERNEATH THE
12:02:34PM EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY, AND SBP PAID A LOT OF MONEY, WORKED
12:02:38PM WITH THE SEMINOLE TRIBE TO MOVE SOME OF THE GRAVES BUT
12:02:41PM PRESUMABLY STILL GRAVES UNDERNEATH THE EXPRESSWAY THERE.
12:02:47PM THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE -- WHAT ROLE CAN THE CITY PLAY?
12:02:52PM BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR GROUND
12:02:54PM PENETRATING RADAR.
12:02:56PM NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD TO GIVE UP THEIR LAND.
12:02:58PM IS THERE A ROLE THE CITY CAN PLAY TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THAT?
12:03:03PM ESPECIALLY FOR THE SMALLER NONPROFITS, RELIGIOUS GROUPS,
12:03:06PM ET CETERA?
12:03:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. BRODY.
12:03:09PM >>CARL BRODY: CARL BRODY FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:03:13PM IF I CAN BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER, FOR
12:03:16PM THE RECORD, THE BACKGROUND ON ALL THIS.
12:03:18PM THIS IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT
12:03:22PM BEFORE.
12:03:22PM WE CANNOT REQUIRE A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TO ALLOW US
12:03:27PM ON-SITE THAT'S REALLY THE GENESIS OF WHY WE ARE TALKING
12:03:34PM ABOUT THE ISSUE TODAY.
12:03:35PM I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF STATUTORY
12:03:38PM PROVISIONS OUT THERE THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP MOVE THIS
12:03:42PM ALONG.
12:03:46PM ONE I TALKED TO MOST OF YOU SEVERAL TIMES IS A BILL UP A
12:03:49PM COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT WOULD HAVE AUTHORIZED THE STATE TO
12:03:52PM GO ON-SITE IN THESE KIND OF SCENARIOS WHERE THERE'S BELIEVED
12:03:56PM TO BE A BURIAL SITE.
12:03:59PM IT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED THE STATE TO GO ON AND HAVE AN
12:04:02PM EASEMENT TO DO A SEARCH TO DETERMINE IF THAT IS ACCURATE OR
12:04:07PM NOT, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THERE OR NOT.
12:04:11PM I THINK I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF YOU POSSIBLY DOING WHAT WE
12:04:16PM CAN TO GET THAT MOVING FORWARD.
12:04:18PM WE ALSO HAVE A LAW ON THE BOOKS THAT ALLOWS NEXT OF KIN TO
12:04:26PM GO ON-SITE.
12:04:27PM THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT RIGHT IF THERE IS A KNOWN CEMETERY.
12:04:34PM THE RUB HERE IS YOU HAVE TO KNOW THERE IS A CEMETERY.
12:04:39PM GENERALLY THIS IS APPLIED TO WHERE THERE IS A LANDOWNER WHO
12:04:42PM IS NOT MAINTAINING THE CEMETERY ABOVEGROUND.
12:04:45PM YOU KNOW THE CEMETERY IS THERE.
12:04:46PM HE'S NOT MAINTAINING IT AND STATE LAW GIVES RIGHT GO ON,
12:04:55PM REQUESTING HE MAINTAINS THE CEMETERY, IF NOT ALLOWS HIM TO
12:04:58PM GO AND DO THE MAINTENANCE ON THEIR OWN.
12:05:00PM THIS SCENARIO, WE HAVE TO BRIDGE THE GAP TO SHOW WE KNOW
12:05:06PM THERE IS A CEMETERY IN PLACE AND THIS WOULD BE A LEGAL
12:05:08PM PROCESS THAT COULD BE UNDERTAKEN BY A THIRD PARTY ONE OF THE
12:05:16PM ORGANIZATIONS INTERESTED IN THE LOST CEMETERIES.
12:05:20PM THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION OUT THERE.
12:05:22PM SPECIFICALLY REGARDING FUNDING, THE KEY PRIMARY ISSUE WE'LL
12:05:28PM LOOK AT, IS THERE A PUBLIC PURPOSE?
12:05:30PM IF WE SHOW THERE IS A PUBLIC PURPOSE, THEN CITY COUNCIL DOES
12:05:34PM HAVE AUTHORITY ON THAT END IN TERMS OF INCORPORATING THAT IN
12:05:42PM THAT COST.
12:05:43PM WE HAVE TO SHOW THERE IS A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
12:05:47PM ONCE WE DO THAT, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO LOOK
12:05:49PM AT.
12:05:50PM WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT SPECIFIC OUTCOMES ARE WE LOOKING
12:05:55PM FOR?
12:05:55PM I THINK IT'S KIND OF CLEAR WE WANT TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION
12:05:58PM IF THERE ARE LOST GRAVES, WHERE THEY MIGHT BE.
12:06:01PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
12:06:04PM WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHO WILL PROVIDE -- HOW WE GO THROUGH
12:06:07PM THE PROCESS OF CHOOSING A VENDOR TO PROVIDE THAT GPR
12:06:13PM SERVICE, ASSUMING THAT IS THE NEXT STEP.
12:06:18PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, COMPARE THE COST AND IF WE WANT TO PUT A
12:06:23PM CAP ON HOW MUCH CITY COUNCIL IS WILLING TO SPEND ON A
12:06:26PM PROGRAM LIKE THIS OVERALL.
12:06:28PM SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME FACTORS THAT COME TO PLAY.
12:06:32PM WE DO KNOW THAT IF WE PROVIDE FUNDING TO THE THIRD-PARTY
12:06:37PM ORGANIZATIONS, THE ORGANIZATIONS COME BEFORE US WITH THAT
12:06:40PM INTEREST, THAT'S NOT GOING TO DIRECTLY ADDRESS THE CONCERN
12:06:45PM BECAUSE THE REAL ISSUE IS GOING TO BE WHETHER THE PRIOR
12:06:49PM PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO AGREE TO ALLOW THAT ACCESS.
12:06:53PM THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE GPR OPTIONS, THAT'S THE
12:06:57PM RELATIONSHIP THAT NEEDS TO BE CREATED IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT
12:07:01PM DETERMINATION.
12:07:01PM I THINK THAT KIND OF SPELLS OUT WHERE WE ARE NOW.
12:07:08PM PASS IT TO COUNCIL TO DISCUSS, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY
12:07:12PM QUESTIONS.
12:07:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:07:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:07:18PM I MET WITH FLORIDA RISING YESTERDAY AND I SPOKE TO THEIR
12:07:24PM GROUP.
12:07:25PM I SPOKE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP THIS MORNING.
12:07:30PM I'VE SPOKEN TO I GUESS THE PRESIDENT OR ONE OF THE LEAD
12:07:32PM ORGANIZERS WITH THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
12:07:35PM AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME NEWS STORIES REGARDING A PARCEL
12:07:39PM NEXT TO WOODLAWN CEMETERY, WHICH WOODLAWN IS THE CITY OF
12:07:44PM TAMPA CEMETERY.
12:07:44PM ABOUT A MONTH AGO, I WAS AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR ABOUT
12:07:50PM TWO HOURS JUST GETTING AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING
12:07:53PM AND WHAT THEY WERE WORKING ON, AND ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT
12:07:55PM CAME UP WAS ZION CEMETERY.
12:07:57PM IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER WILLING TO --
12:08:00PM I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS.
12:08:01PM THIS IS THE FIRST THAT I KNOW.
12:08:03PM WILLING TO DONATE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A LAND SWAP.
12:08:06PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT.
12:08:07PM AS I SPOKE WITH FOLKS AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS HERE
12:08:11PM FROM FLORIDA RISING, WHAT AM I WORKING ON?
12:08:13PM ONE OF THE THINGS WAS IN REGARDS TO THE CEMETERIES.
12:08:16PM I TOUCHED UPON IT FOR A LITTLE BIT YESTERDAY, BUT MY GOAL IS
12:08:20PM ONE OF TWO, TO MAKE ZION CEMETERY WHOLE AND THAT THE CITY --
12:08:27PM THAT WE COME TO A COMPLETION WITH IT.
12:08:29PM ROBLES PARK IN GENERAL HAS THAT BIG MASTER PLAN.
12:08:33PM BUT MY GOAL IS TO FIGURE OUT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CITY IS
12:08:36PM AT REGARDING THE LAND SWAP OR THE DEAL OR WHATEVER THE
12:08:40PM NEGOTIATIONS ARE TO FIX AND FINISH ZION AND RESTORE IT TO
12:08:46PM WHAT IT WAS.
12:08:47PM NUMBER TWO, IN REGARDS TO THE PARCEL ADJACENT TO WOODLAWN,
12:08:52PM AND THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING DISCUSSED FOR YEARS ON AND OFF,
12:08:58PM BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THIS IS A PUBLIC RECORD, AS I
12:09:01PM SPOKE TO SOMEONE WITH THE CEMETERY SOCIETY, SHE ATTACHED --
12:09:06PM E-MAIL TO EVERYBODY.
12:09:08PM I BELIEVE IT WAS USF REGARDING -- OFF MEMORY, BUT IF YOU
12:09:13PM LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL MAPS FROM A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, POTTERS
12:09:17PM FIELD IS RIGHT THERE.
12:09:18PM DRIVE DOWN BOULEVARD AND THEN WOODLAWN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
12:09:20PM THE FENCE, IT IS A WIDE OPEN AREA.
12:09:23PM THAT IS APPARENTLY POTTERS FIELD.
12:09:24PM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PARCEL ADJACENT THAT HAS BEEN LISTED
12:09:27PM FOR SALE INCLUDES THAT.
12:09:30PM THIS IS WHAT I'VE HEARD AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S FURTHER
12:09:32PM EVIDENCE, THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE THAT WAS CONNECTED TO
12:09:38PM THE ROSEWOOD STORY.
12:09:41PM WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK HISTORY, YOU MAY HAVE INDIVIDUALS
12:09:45PM THAT ARE BURIED THERE UNMARKED THAT ARE HISTORICALLY
12:09:49PM SIGNIFICANT.
12:09:50PM MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND IT'S IMPORTANT.
12:09:53PM I'LL FINISH BY SAYING I REACHED OUT TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
12:09:59PM THEY DID NOT WANT TO PURSUE POSSIBLY PURCHASING THIS PARCEL.
12:10:03PM SINCE WE HAVE TO BE IN THE SUNSHINE, AS WE GO INTO THE
12:10:06PM BUDGET SEASON, PERHAPS LOOKING AT ADDING THAT TO THE BUDGET.
12:10:09PM A NUMBER HAS BEEN THROWN OUT FOR WHAT WAS PUBLICLY LISTED
12:10:13PM FOR THIS PARCEL OFF BOULEVARD NEXT TO WOODLAWN.
12:10:16PM I'D LIKE TO SEE IF COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE APPETITE IN MOVING
12:10:19PM FORWARD, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE
12:10:23PM PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER IN JUST ACQUIRING THAT.
12:10:26PM BECAUSE PER WHAT WAS SAID FROM THE INDIVIDUAL I BELIEVE FROM
12:10:29PM USF SAYING THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF, AND THE ORIGINAL MAP
12:10:33PM SHOWED THAT THAT SECTION MAY HAVE, IF IT WAS AFRICAN
12:10:36PM AMERICAN BURIALS, WHATEVER IT IS, JUST SO WE CAN PUT THIS TO
12:10:40PM REST.
12:10:42PM THE CITY HAS A TERRIBLE REPUTATION WHEN IT COMES TO
12:10:45PM PROTECTING CEMETERIES, AS WE'VE SEEN IN THE NEWS SEVERAL
12:10:49PM YEARS.
12:10:49PM MOST RECENTLY WITH MEMORIAL.
12:10:51PM I MEAN, THAT WAS ON MLK.
12:10:55PM THAT WAS A DEBACLE.
12:10:57PM BUT WE'VE WORKED THAT OUT AND NOW IT'S BEING RESTORED AND
12:11:02PM GIVEN THE RESPECT THAT IT SHOULD BE.
12:11:05PM I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
12:11:07PM IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS THE BUDGET COMES UP WE CAN SEE
12:11:10PM ABOUT ACQUIRING THAT PROPERTY, REACHING OUT.
12:11:14PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE BEGIN.
12:11:15PM BUT THOSE ARE TWO OF MY GOALS.
12:11:18PM FIXING AND FINISHING ZION AND THEN FIGURING OUT WHAT WE DO
12:11:23PM WITH THE PARCEL NEXT TO WOODLAWN AND PUTTING IT TO REST.
12:11:26PM I THINK AS SO MUCH BLACK HISTORY HAS BEEN ERASED -- I
12:11:33PM MENTIONED IT YESTERDAY.
12:11:33PM I CAN TALK ABOUT IT FOREVER.
12:11:36PM EVEN MY WIFE STUDIES IT.
12:11:39PM WE NEED TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
12:11:42PM AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPTION MOVING FORWARD.
12:11:45PM THANK YOU.
12:11:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:11:48PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:11:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:11:51PM FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE NO PLAN.
12:11:52PM THAT'S RIGHT NOW.
12:11:55PM WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY PARCELS OF LAND MAY BE UNDER
12:11:59PM THIS.
12:11:59PM THAT IS THE SECOND ONE.
12:12:00PM THE THIRD ONE IS, IT'S CHEAPER TO PASS AND PAY THE MONEY TO
12:12:04PM GO OVER AND SEE WHAT'S UNDER THERE THAN TO BUY THE LAND.
12:12:07PM THAT'S NUMBER THREE.
12:12:09PM FOURTH OF ALL -- ANYTHING SAID, BUT I THINK THE GENERAL
12:12:13PM PUBLIC, TAXPAYERS WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE BUYING, IS IT A
12:12:17PM CEMETERY OR IS IT NOT A CEMETERY?
12:12:19PM YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE THINGS ONE STEP AT A TIME.
12:12:23PM I DON'T THINK THAT I'M GOING TO BUY A PIECE OF LAND IF I WAS
12:12:26PM OUT BUYING A LOT NOW THAT I KNOW POSSIBLY HAS -- IF I
12:12:30PM REMEMBER GOING BACK TO THE ASSOCIATION -- I WON'T MENTION
12:12:34PM ANY NAMES TO AVOID LAWSUITS -- THAT WAS BOUGHT CLEARLY FOR
12:12:37PM THE MEMBERSHIP OF THAT ORGANIZATION TO BE BURIED THERE.
12:12:43PM IF I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A YOUNG KID IN BUSINESS.
12:12:45PM BIG IN SHOW BUSINESS, BIG IN AREAS.
12:12:47PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THAT LAND.
12:12:50PM I THINK THE PUBLIC OUGHT TO REALIZE BEFORE WE START THINKING
12:12:53PM ABOUT BUYING ANYTHING, IS THERE THAT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING
12:12:56PM ABOUT, IS IT THERE?
12:12:57PM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
12:12:59PM WHO PAYS FOR IT?
12:13:00PM THAT'S NUMBER TWO.
12:13:01PM WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.
12:13:03PM THEY DO.
12:13:03PM BUT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM.
12:13:04PM THE PROBLEM IS IT'S THEIR LAND.
12:13:07PM SO WHOEVER OWNS THAT LAND I THINK HAS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
12:13:13PM PASSING THE GRID ON IT TO SEE WHAT'S UNDER THERE.
12:13:17PM THIS IS NEW.
12:13:18PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THERE IS NO PLAN FOR THAT I KNOW THAT
12:13:21PM THE CITY HAS HAD UP TO THIS TIME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
12:13:23PM IT, WHAT'S REALLY THERE BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO TALK THIS WAY.
12:13:28PM I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TEN NEW CEMETERIES COME UP AND NOW HAVE
12:13:31PM TO BUY TEN CEMETERIES THAT I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE, TALKING
12:13:34PM ABOUT THE GENERAL TAXPAYERS.
12:13:35PM WE CAN ADDRESS THE PROBLEM ONCE WE FIND OUT WHAT'S THERE.
12:13:38PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THERE.
12:13:40PM ONLY HEARD GOSSIP, THIS, AND THAT, AND THE OTHER.
12:13:43PM I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
12:13:45PM WE DON'T OWN IT.
12:13:46PM IT IS THE SAME THING WE'VE DONE WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE.
12:13:50PM IF I SOLD IT -- I DID IT BUT THEY ARE BLAMING YOU.
12:14:01PM THESE ARE THE THINGS GOING IN THE CITY.
12:14:03PM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT BEFORE I CAST A VOTE.
12:14:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:14:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE FROM A LEGAL
12:14:12PM PERSPECTIVE.
12:14:13PM FIRST OF ALL, TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID,
12:14:20PM I WISH THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS
12:14:22PM AT ALL.
12:14:23PM SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS
12:14:29PM TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE CITY, NOT BY OUR CHOICE, BUT BECAUSE
12:14:32PM THE STATE REQUIRES A TRUST FUND TO MAINTAIN THE CEMETERIES
12:14:37PM BUT NOT ENOUGH TO EVEN FUND ONE YEAR.
12:14:40PM THE CITY IS IN A SITUATION BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER
12:14:43PM GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT IS A SAFETY NET FOR CEMETERIES.
12:14:47PM IF SOMEBODY -- IF THE PRIVATE SECTOR ABUNDANCE A CEMETERY
12:14:50PM AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TRUST FUND, IF WE DON'T TAKE IT OVER
12:14:56PM IT WILL END UP LIKE THESE LOST CEMETERIES EVENTUALLY.
12:14:59PM I THINK WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION NOT BECAUSE WE THINK THE CITY
12:15:02PM SHOULD BE IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS, BUT BECAUSE THE STATE
12:15:04PM DOESN'T REGULATE IT IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD.
12:15:06PM THEY SHOULD PUT SOMETHING LIKE TEN YEARS OF MAINTENANCE IN
12:15:10PM IT AND MAYBE IN SOME KIND OF FUND THAT WOULD BE RENEWABLE.
12:15:13PM SO I WISH THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE IT OVER BUT THE CITY
12:15:18PM RIGHT NOW IS IN THE BEST POSITION TO DO IT AND WE SHOULD.
12:15:22PM TO COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO'S POINT, IF HE MAKES A MOTION
12:15:26PM TO SUGGEST PUTTING A BUDGET OR AN AMOUNT IN THE BUDGET TO
12:15:33PM POTENTIALLY BUY THAT ONE PROPERTY, I WOULD SECOND IT AND
12:15:37PM SUPPORT IT.
12:15:38PM THE POINT THAT I WAS MAKING IN THIS MOTION IS IF -- THINK
12:15:46PM ABOUT WHEN THESE CEMETERIES WERE BUILT ON, MANY OF THEM WERE
12:15:52PM 80 OR A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
12:15:53PM NOW SEVERAL OWNERS SINCE THEN.
12:15:55PM THE NEW OWNERS, IF NOBODY DISCLOSES IT, THEY HAVE NO IDEA IT
12:15:58PM IS THERE.
12:15:59PM THE NEW OWNERS BUY IT, NONPROFIT, FOR PROFIT, RELIGIOUS
12:16:04PM ORGANIZATIONS NOT KNOWING THERE ARE CEMETERIES ON THERE.
12:16:06PM BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAID WITH THE LAW, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED
12:16:09PM TO ALLOW US TO COME ON.
12:16:11PM SO THE WHOLE IDEA HERE IS IF WE CAN'T JUST GO ON THERE AND
12:16:16PM LOOK FOR GRAVES AND THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO IT, AND THEY
12:16:22PM MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT, WE CAN PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE.
12:16:25PM I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE LIKE A $500,000 FUND TO FUND GROUND
12:16:29PM PENETRATING RADAR FOR PLACES WE SUSPECT.
12:16:31PM AGAIN, THEY'LL HAVE TO AGREE TO ALLOW US TO DO IT.
12:16:35PM I DON'T KNOW THE COST, BUT $50,000 TO SEARCH THAT, IF A
12:16:38PM SMALL NONPROFIT, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION DOESN'T HAVE THE
12:16:41PM MONEY TO DO IT, WE CAN SAY WE'LL PAY FOR IT AND DO THE
12:16:44PM GROUND PENETRATING RADAR.
12:16:46PM THE ISSUE IS WHAT HAPPENS IF WE FIND SOMETHING?
12:16:49PM DO WE TRY TO RELOCATE THEM OR SAY WE'LL BUY THE SPACE, 10%
12:16:55PM OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY, DOES THE CITY COME IN AND BUY IT AND
12:17:00PM MAYBE DO IT ONE BY ONE?
12:17:02PM I SUGGEST WE SET UP SOME SORT OF FUND FOR THE GROUND
12:17:05PM PENETRATING RADAR SO WE CAN OFFER THAT AS AN INCENTIVE TO
12:17:08PM CONVINCE PEOPLE TO DO IT TOP TO COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO'S
12:17:12PM OTHER POINT ON PROTECTION, ALMOST WEEKLY, TWICE A WEEK I GET
12:17:16PM PICTURES AND TEXTS AND E-MAILS ABOUT PEOPLE SLEEPING IN
12:17:22PM GRAVES WHERE THE ROCKS HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF OR HEAD STONES
12:17:26PM CRUSHED, AND THIS IS THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY AND
12:17:29PM DISRESPECTFUL OF THE PEOPLE.
12:17:31PM SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO BETTER PROTECT THE CEMETERIES THERE.
12:17:35PM >>CARL BRODY: WE DO HAVE RULES IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE
12:17:38PM CEMETERIES, AND WE DO HAVE THE FOLKS FROM OUR DEPARTMENTS
12:17:40PM WHO GO OUT AND CHECK AND IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS, THEY CONTACT
12:17:45PM LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HAVE THAT ADDRESSED.
12:17:48PM WHAT YOU RUN INTO SOMETIMES IS THERE ARE FINE LINES.
12:17:52PM THERE ARE CITY CEMETERIES RIGHT NEXT TO PRIVATE CEMETERIES.
12:17:55PM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MIGHT WALK BY AND SEE WHAT YOU'RE
12:18:01PM TALKING ABOUT AND NOT REALIZE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY A PRIVATE
12:18:05PM CEMETERY WHERE THIS ACTIVITY IS OCCURRING WHERE SOMEBODY IS
12:18:08PM SLEEPING ON HEADSTONES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
12:18:11PM WE DO ENFORCE OUR CEMETERY ORDINANCE AND SEND PEOPLE OUT TO
12:18:16PM PROTECT IT.
12:18:17PM I THINK IT HAPPENED VERY RECENTLY WHERE WE WERE AWARE OF IT.
12:18:21PM I KNOW THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE
12:18:26PM AND TAKING STEPS TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE CLEAR THAT THE
12:18:28PM CEMETERIES HAVE TO BE PROTECTED.
12:18:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:18:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
12:18:35PM MENTIONED IF I MADE A MOTION ABOUT LOOKING TO PURCHASE THE
12:18:38PM CEMETERY, BEFORE I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION, MR. SHELBY, STOP
12:18:43PM ME IF I'M DOING SOMETHING WRONG, BUT COULD I MAKE A MOTION
12:18:48PM REQUESTING THAT THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT OR THE
12:18:49PM ADMINISTRATION, WHOEVER IT IS, REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY
12:18:53PM OWNER OF THE PARCEL THAT'S ADJACENT TO WOODLAWN, THIS IS THE
12:18:58PM ONE IN QUESTION, WITHOUT SAYING NAMES.
12:19:00PM IT'S OUT THERE.
12:19:01PM AND JUST SEE THE COST, SEE ABOUT -- NOT SAY BUDGET THE MONEY
12:19:12PM AND BUY IT WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL COST.
12:19:16PM SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY CONTACT AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS A
12:19:18PM DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED ON COUNCIL.
12:19:20PM THESE ARE THE CONCERNS.
12:19:21PM WHERE DO WE BEGIN FROM THERE?
12:19:23PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PERSON HAS NOT HEARD FROM THE CITY OR
12:19:28PM HAS A BUYER.
12:19:30PM BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT'S LISTED, NOT LISTED, BACK LISTED,
12:19:34PM THEY PUT THE LISTING UP AGAIN.
12:19:36PM JUST TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND DIALOGUE, BUT TO SHOW
12:19:39PM THAT PERSON THAT THE CITY IS INTERESTED OR IS ASKING
12:19:42PM QUESTIONS IN SOME CAPACITY.
12:19:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A SECOND.
12:19:45PM BUT DID YOU, CITY ATTORNEY, WANT TO RESPOND TO -- NO, YOU,
12:19:50PM SIR, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
12:19:53PM TO MR. MANISCALCO'S QUESTION.
12:19:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THAT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF CITY
12:20:00PM COUNCIL IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS WILLING TO DO THAT.
12:20:03PM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WISHED TO ADD, MR. BRODY?
12:20:08PM >>CARL BRODY: I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, TO HAVE
12:20:10PM THE DISCUSSION ON WHAT THE BEST NEXT STEPS ARE.
12:20:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
12:20:13PM I'M NOT A LAWYER.
12:20:14PM I'M NOT TRAINED FOR THIS, BUT TO BE A LAWYER AND SPEAK, BUT
12:20:17PM I'M NOT AGAINST THE THING.
12:20:19PM I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS CAN GET RESOLVED WITHOUT THE CITY
12:20:24PM BUYING IT.
12:20:26PM I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE AN OFFER TO SOMEBODY IF HE OR SHE HAS
12:20:30PM AN OFFER ALREADY.
12:20:31PM I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A BIDDING WAR WITH SOMEBODY, I
12:20:34PM DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I JUST WANT TO PROTECT ALL AREAS
12:20:36PM OF THE CITY, INCLUDING THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY AND THIS
12:20:40PM ADMINISTRATION AND ALL THE TAXPAYERS IN THE CITY ALL AT
12:20:42PM ONCE.
12:20:43PM I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS, BUT I KNOW I DO
12:20:47PM HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO SOMETHING.
12:20:48PM SO MY SUGGESTION IS, BEFORE WE FIND OUT, A, IS IT FOR SALE?
12:20:53PM WHAT PRICE?
12:20:54PM HOWEVER, IF THAT LAND HAS SOME INDIVIDUAL BURIED THERE, IT'S
12:20:58PM NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
12:20:59PM IT IS THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY.
12:21:02PM LET THE OWNER GET OUT THE WAY TESS.
12:21:04PM SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID
12:21:07PM HERE IN TAMPA, THAT CEMETERY, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT
12:21:09PM WORKED, WAS THERE, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD BE BURIED AT.
12:21:16PM THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER.
12:21:16PM MAYBE I'M WRONG BECAUSE TEENAGERS GO WACKO ONCE IN A WHILE
12:21:22PM WHEN YOU HAVE THE HORMONES GOING AROUND.
12:21:27PM THESE ARE THE THINGS I REMEMBER, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M
12:21:30PM NOT IN ERROR OF WHAT I REMEMBER.
12:21:31PM >>CARL BRODY: IF WE KNOW THERE IS A CEMETERY THERE RIGHT
12:21:35PM NOW, LIKE WE DO FOR SOME OF THE CEMETERIES, THEN THAT'S
12:21:38PM WHERE THE STATUTE COMES INTO PLAY.
12:21:40PM THE STATUTE I REFERENCED EARLIER COMES INTO PLAY.
12:21:43PM GIVES NEXT OF KIN THE RIGHT TO GO ON THE PROPERTY AND TO
12:21:46PM MAINTAIN IT.
12:21:46PM BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE KNOWN.
12:21:48PM THE SEPARATE ISSUE IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE UNKNOWN, THE LOST
12:21:52PM CEMETERIES.
12:21:53PM AND THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO FILL THAT GAP TO BE ABLE TO
12:21:55PM HAVE THAT ACCESS TO THE CEMETERY.
12:22:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS RECOGNIZED NEXT.
12:22:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK A MOTION IS WRONG.
12:22:06PM MEW ONLY CONCERN IS WE DON'T HAVE ANY -- TIME IS OF THE
12:22:10PM ESSENCE.
12:22:11PM SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY TIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
12:22:15PM MONTHS.
12:22:15PM SO IF THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU COULD WORK WITH STAFF BEHIND
12:22:24PM THE SCENES IN THE NEXT WEEK TO FIGURE IT OUT.
12:22:27PM I'M CONCERNED IF WE DO THAT, WE WON'T HAVE ROOM UNTIL AUGUST
12:22:32PM AND I DON'T WANT IT TO GO AWAY.
12:22:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY THOUGHT IS THAT THE CONVERSATION
12:22:36PM BEGINS THAT SOMEBODY FROM REAL ESTATE OR WITH THE CITY
12:22:39PM REACHES OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, HEY, CITY COUNCIL HAD THE
12:22:42PM DISCUSSION.
12:22:43PM A COUNCIL MEMBER, ME, WAS WILLING TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND
12:22:48PM MAKE A MOTION FOR IT.
12:22:49PM THEY COULD SAY WE DON'T WANT TO SELL IT TO THE CITY.
12:22:52PM THEY COULD JUST SAY NO.
12:22:53PM BUT KNOW THAT THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN HAD.
12:22:56PM BUT IN THE MEANTIME, JUNE 5 WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETING.
12:22:59PM I THINK IN BETWEEN, I COULD SEE IF ANYTHING HAS HAPPENED
12:23:02PM COMMUNICATION-WISE AND THEN JUNE 5, PERHAPS MAKE A FORMAL
12:23:05PM MOTION SAYING AS WE GO INTO BUDGET SEASON, HEY, THEY ARE
12:23:08PM INTERESTED.
12:23:09PM THE CITY WANTS TO DO GPR, I DON'T KNOW.
12:23:12PM IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEY CAN JUST SAY NO AND TURN US
12:23:15PM AWAY.
12:23:15PM BUT AT LEAST WE TALK ABOUT IT AND NOT JUST LET IT GO DOWN
12:23:20PM ANOTHER ROAD THAT WHO KNOWS WHAT.
12:23:24PM >>CARL BRODY: FOR THE PURPOSES OF IF WE'RE DISCUSSING LOST
12:23:29PM CEMETERIES THAT WE NEED TO VERIFY THAT THERE'S SOMETHING
12:23:33PM THERE, THAT IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
12:23:35PM WE NEED AN EASEMENT TO GO ON AND HAVE TO NEGOTIATE AN
12:23:38PM EASEMENT TO DO A GPR STUDY.
12:23:42PM THAT'S NOT AS EXPENSIVE AS ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND PURCHASING
12:23:46PM THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY.
12:23:47PM THAT'S LIKE KIND OF A MORE NARROW FIRST STEP MAYBE TO KNOW
12:23:51PM WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
12:23:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CARLSON WANTS TO SPEAK.
12:24:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE
12:24:01PM GROUND PENETRATING RADAR, BUT JUST TO THE MOTION THAT
12:24:05PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO MADE, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW,
12:24:08PM BY CHARTER, CITY COUNCIL CANNOT FORCE OR COMPEL STAFF OR THE
12:24:12PM ADMINISTRATION TO DO ANYTHING.
12:24:13PM SO WHAT HIS -- THE WAY I LOOK AT HIS MOTION IS HE'S SIMPLY
12:24:19PM REQUESTING ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL THAT THE STAFF HAVE SOME
12:24:24PM KIND OF CONVERSATION.
12:24:25PM AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.
12:24:28PM IT JUST SHOWS THAT IF WE VOTE FOR IT, IT SHOWS THAT THE CITY
12:24:32PM COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING BECAUSE THE
12:24:34PM COMMUNITY HAS ASKED US TO LOOK INTO IT.
12:24:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:24:39PM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
12:24:41PM I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE PUSHED FAR AWAY.
12:24:44PM I'M HAPPY TO VOTE AND SAY YES, I SUPPORT YOU DOING THAT.
12:24:48PM IF THAT'S WHAT THE VOTE IS TODAY, AND THEN A FOLLOW-UP ON
12:24:51PM JUNE 5th WOULD BE AWESOME.
12:24:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M FINE WITH ALL THIS, BUT HOW DO WE
12:25:01PM COME UP TO THE POINT, ARE WE GOING TO BUY IT, IF THE PRICE
12:25:04PM -- I DON'T KNOW.
12:25:05PM I'VE NEVER BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE THAT, A CEMETERY.
12:25:08PM ARE WE GOING TO BUY IT WITHOUT PASSING THE UNDERGROUND RADAR
12:25:17PM TO MAKE SURE IT IS A CEMETERY?
12:25:18PM WHAT IF WE BUY IT AND IT'S NOT A CEMETERY?
12:25:21PM WHAT DO WE DO THEN?
12:25:25PM >>CARL BRODY: I WOULD THINK YOU'D WANT TO VERIFY WHAT YOU'RE
12:25:28PM PURCHASING, YES.
12:25:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE THING BUT I
12:25:32PM HAVE TO FIND OUT SO I CAN EXPLAIN TO TAXPAYERS WHAT I'M
12:25:35PM DOING.
12:25:35PM ALL I HEAR IS HEARSAY.
12:25:38PM SAW IT ON TELEVISION.
12:25:39PM SAW IT ON THIS.
12:25:40PM I AGREE WITH ALL THAT, HOWEVER, ARE THERE BODIES IN THE
12:25:43PM PROPERTY ITSELF?
12:25:45PM >>CARL BRODY: THE THING IS, IF YOU DO DETERMINE THAT THERE
12:25:48PM ARE BODIES THERE, THAT BRINGS IN THE OTHER STATUTORY ISSUES
12:25:52PM THAT ALLOWS THIRD PARTIES --
12:25:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RATHER SPEND A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS, MAKE
12:25:59PM SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE CORRECT THING.
12:26:01PM BUT WE CAN'T IF ON THE PROPERTY ALSO WE HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS
12:26:05PM TO GO IN AND DO IT.
12:26:06PM IF THAT SELLER DOESN'T LET ANYONE ELSE DO THAT, THEN HE OR
12:26:11PM SHE HAS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEN WE KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING
12:26:14PM WRONG.
12:26:15PM THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
12:26:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:26:17PM WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THIS TOPIC BEFORE WE
12:26:21PM VOTE.
12:26:21PM MS. BULLOCK, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS?
12:26:25PM >> NO, MA'AM.
12:26:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: POYNOR?
12:26:26PM MICHELINI AND MS. BURTON.
12:26:36PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT
12:26:39PM IF THERE ARE BODIES UNDERNEATH IT, THAT LAND IS NOT WORTH
12:26:43PM NEARLY AS MUCH.
12:26:44PM SO IF THERE IS, THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD NOT BE PAYING
12:26:48PM ANYWHERE NEAR THE LIST PRICE ON THE PROPERTY.
12:26:52PM WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN PEOPLE GET OVERZEALOUS
12:26:55PM ABOUT WE MUST DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT DRIVES UP THE PRICE.
12:26:58PM I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME.
12:27:01PM I'M NOT SAYING NOT BUY IT.
12:27:03PM I'M SAYING IF THERE ARE ACTUALLY BODIES THERE, IT MAKES THE
12:27:06PM PROPERTY LESS VALUABLE, NOT MORE VALUABLE, LESS VALUABLE.
12:27:10PM AND WHOEVER DOES PURCHASE IT, IF IT'S NOT THE CITY, THEY'LL
12:27:14PM HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE THEM MOVED OR FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE
12:27:17PM GOING TO DO WITH IT.
12:27:22PM WHEN WE ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THE
12:27:26PM PROPERTY IS VALUED AT AND DON'T HONESTLY, IT DOESN'T MAKE
12:27:28PM ANY DIFFERENCE TO ME, BUT WE HAVE TO BE CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT
12:27:33PM IF WE SEEM TOO AGGRESSIVE ABOUT THE PRICE, THEY WILL BE
12:27:36PM STICKING WITH IT.
12:27:37PM THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S WORTH LESS IF THERE ARE DEAD PEOPLE
12:27:42PM THERE.
12:27:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. MICHELINI, FOLLOWED BY MS. BURTON.
12:27:50PM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
12:27:51PM LITTLE HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE.
12:27:52PM WHEN I WAS WITH THE CITY, I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR RELOCATING
12:27:56PM 144 GRAVES FROM UNDERNEATH FORT BROOKE GARAGE.
12:28:00PM AND ALL OF THEM WERE EITHER REBURIED AT OAKLAWN CEMETERY,
12:28:06PM THE ONES THAT WERE ABLE TO BE IDENTIFIED AS SETTLERS AND THE
12:28:12PM INDIAN GRAVES WERE THE ONES THAT WERE TAKEN AND THEN
12:28:15PM RELOCATED OUT TO WHAT IS NOW SEMINOLE INDIAN BINGO CASINO
12:28:22PM AND HOTEL.
12:28:26PM THAT'S HOW THE SEMINOLE INDIAN BINGO AND CASINO GOT BUILT.
12:28:28PM IT WAS A TRADE-OFF BETWEEN THE BURIAL RIGHTS THAT THE
12:28:31PM INDIANS HAD UNDERNEATH THE GARAGE, FEDERAL FUNDS WERE BEING
12:28:35PM USED FOR THE GARAGE AND THE HOTEL COMPLEX.
12:28:38PM AND THEN AN EXCHANGE WAS DRAWN UP RELEASING THEIR RIGHTS IN
12:28:44PM EXCHANGE FOR PROPERTY THE CITY OWNED AT ORIENT ROAD.
12:28:53PM IT WAS A LONG PROCESS.
12:28:54PM TOOK ABOUT FOUR MONTHS TO EXCAVATE THE BODIES, IDENTIFY
12:28:56PM THEM.
12:28:57PM THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER WAS INVOLVED.
12:28:59PM HE CAME DOWN FROM TALLAHASSEE.
12:29:03PM THE SEMINOLE INDIAN TRIBE AND THE CHIEF JAMES BILLY CAME TO
12:29:07PM THE SITE ALONG WITH THE ELDERS OF THAT GROUP AND ALSO THOSE
12:29:13PM OF YOU WHO REMEMBER MONSIGNOR HIGGINS, HE CAME DOWN WHERE
12:29:18PM THE SETTLER AND ALL THE GRAVES WERE RECONSECRATED BEFORE
12:29:22PM BEING TRANSPORTED TO OAKLAWN OR TO THE SEMINOLE INDIAN TRIBE
12:29:27PM LOCATION.
12:29:28PM IT WAS A LONG PROCESS.
12:29:29PM BUT THERE IS A PLAQUE DOWN THERE UNDERNEATH THE GARAGE THAT
12:29:33PM TALKS ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT IS A SMALL REMINDER
12:29:38PM OF WHAT LOST GRAVES LOOK LIKE.
12:29:41PM THERE WERE NO GRAVE MARKERS.
12:29:45PM IT WAS A BUILDING AND THEN IT WAS WHATEVER.
12:29:52PM IT WAS A PARKING LOT AND A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS.
12:29:54PM BUT OVER TIME IT WAS COMPLETELY LOST.
12:29:57PM THERE ARE MORE GRAVES OUT HERE THAT GO OUT INTO FLORIDA
12:30:03PM AVENUE.
12:30:03PM THEY GO OUT ACROSS THE STREET, AND THE LIMITS OF THAT
12:30:06PM CEMETERY ARE NOT REALLY KNOWN.
12:30:09PM BUT WE DID RELOCATE 144 OF THEM THAT WERE DIRECTLY BENEATH
12:30:15PM FORT BROOKE GARAGE.
12:30:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. BURTON.
12:30:25PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:30:26PM CONNIE BURTON.
12:30:27PM LEGACY IS IMPORTANT.
12:30:31PM I LIVED IN ROBLES PARK ABOUT 25 YEARS, AND PRIOR TO GETTING
12:30:35PM THERE, ALL OF THE OLDER RESIDENTS WOULD ALWAYS TALK ABOUT
12:30:38PM CEMETERIES WAS THERE.
12:30:40PM CEMETERIES WAS THERE.
12:30:41PM AND DESPITE WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE
12:30:46PM LEGAL PROOF, THEY WAS CORRECT BECAUSE GUESS WHAT WE FOUND
12:30:49PM OUT LATER, CEMETERIES ARE THERE.
12:30:51PM BODIES WERE THERE.
12:30:53PM AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST DO THE WORK.
12:30:58PM IF THE PROPERTY AT WOODLAWN, THE PROPRIETOR WANTS TO SELL IT
12:31:06PM FOR A MILLION DOLLARS, THE CITY OUGHT TO BE THERE WHETHER
12:31:09PM YOU BUY IT OR NOT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T REPEAT HISTORY.
12:31:14PM BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAME IN, ROBLES PARK AND
12:31:19PM BUILT OVER THE BODIES.
12:31:20PM PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ANYWAY.
12:31:22PM I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY SINCE NOW WE ARE MORE
12:31:25PM ENLIGHTENED AND MORE INFORMED THAT WE SAY WE WANT TO DO THE
12:31:28PM RIGHT THING, THEN DO THE RIGHT THING.
12:31:29PM ONE SCRIPTURE MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO TELL ME.
12:31:33PM THE LIVING KNOW THEY WILL DIE.
12:31:34PM THE DEAD KNOW NOTHING.
12:31:36PM I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS THE LIVING TO SAY THE
12:31:40PM TYPE OF LEGACY THAT WE WANT TO LEAVE BEHIND TO SAY THAT
12:31:44PM PEOPLE DIE AS WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS RESOLUTION 568 AND
12:31:49PM BLACK BODIES IS EVERYWHERE IN THIS CITY.
12:31:51PM I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE MADAM FORTUNE OWNING ALL OF THIS
12:31:56PM PROPERTY AND THEN DIDN'T FIND NO BLACK BODIES UP DOWNTOWN
12:31:59PM ANYWHERE.
12:32:00PM I JUST SIMPLY NEVER BELIEVE THAT.
12:32:03PM BUT NONETHELESS, DOING THE RIGHT THING.
12:32:07PM FORCING THE CITY TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO MAKE SURE IF IT
12:32:11PM IS BODIES ON WOODLAWN OR ANYWHERE ELSE, THAT BIG DEVELOPERS
12:32:16PM DON'T RUN IN FRONT OF THE LINE IF THERE'S SOME FUNDING, BUT
12:32:19PM THAT EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY THOSE WOMEN THAT HAVE BEEN
12:32:25PM FOLLOWING THE CEMETERY SOCIETY GROUP THAT HAS BEEN ADVOCATES
12:32:28PM OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S DIGNITY IN DEATH.
12:32:32PM THANK YOU.
12:32:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
12:32:34PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION THAT
12:32:38PM WAS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR THE RECORD?
12:32:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION WOULD BE THAT THE
12:32:49PM ADMINISTRATION, SPECIFICALLY THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT,
12:32:51PM REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS
12:32:57PM RIGHT ADJACENT TO WHAT IS KNOWN AS POTTERS FIELD, THAT
12:33:01PM WOODLAWN CEMETERY, WOODLAWN BEING CITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY,
12:33:04PM AND STARTING A DIALOGUE TO SEE HOW WE BEGIN, WHETHER THEY
12:33:12PM ALLOW FOR GPR, THEN WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT THE COST OF THAT
12:33:17PM IS.
12:33:17PM AND THIS IS GROUND PENETRATING RADAR, IF WE CAN PARTNER AND
12:33:21PM GET ONTO THAT PROPERTY JUST TO PUT TO REST ANY RUMORS OR
12:33:26PM CONCERNS.
12:33:26PM AND IF WE DO GET THAT KIND OF PERMISSION AND THAT
12:33:30PM CONVERSATION STARTS AND WE DO FIND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE
12:33:34PM BURIED THERE, THE NEXT STEP FOR ME WOULD BE TO MAKE A MOTION
12:33:38PM FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET THAT WE ENTER NEGOTIATIONS OR SET A
12:33:43PM PRICE, A BUDGET THAT WE CAN START NEGOTIATING AND POSSIBLY
12:33:47PM BUYING THAT PROPERTY IF NEED BE.
12:33:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S ALREADY BEEN SECONDED.
12:33:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE MENTIONED GROUND PENETRATING RADAR AND
12:33:55PM THAT WASN'T MENTIONED BEFORE.
12:33:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO BE CLEAR AND LISTEN TO THE
12:34:00PM CONCERNS.
12:34:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE TO REALIZE IT IS WORTH LESS IF
12:34:04PM THE PENETRATING RADAR SAYS IT IS POSITIVE.
12:34:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO YOUR MOTION IS JUST FOR STAFF TO DO THE
12:34:08PM WORK, TO GET THE INFORMATION, TO START THE COMMUNICATION.
12:34:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND SEE IF
12:34:11PM THEY ARE WILLING TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, IF YOU PAY FOR IT, DO
12:34:13PM THE SCAN.
12:34:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS THE MOTION THAT WE ARE VOTING ON.
12:34:17PM IT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:34:22PM WE MOVED.
12:34:26PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
12:34:27PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:34:28PM MOTION CARRIES.
12:34:31PM YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:34:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN REGARD TO THE GROUND PENETRATING RADAR, I
12:34:39PM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION --
12:34:42PM AGAIN, IT'S JUST A REQUEST -- ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO
12:34:42PM CREATE A BUDGET FOR GROUND PENETRATING RADAR SO THE CITY CAN
12:34:46PM OFFER PROPERTY OWNERS INCREASED SERVICE TO DETERMINE IF
12:34:48PM GRAVES EXIST.
12:34:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:34:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS GENERIC.
12:34:50PM NOT CONNECTED TO ANY PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
12:34:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FY FISCAL YEAR.
12:34:55PM ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?
12:34:56PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
12:34:57PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:34:58PM THE MOTION CARRIES.
12:35:00PM WE HAVE NUMBER 6, LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF REPORTING ON THE
12:35:07PM PARKING LEASES.
12:35:09PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:35:11PM ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
12:35:13PM THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
12:35:17PM WE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED THIS BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024.
12:35:20PM AND AT THAT HEARING, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT ROLLING ANY
12:35:26PM UPDATES INTO THE CODE REFORM BEING DONE, THE CODE UPDATE.
12:35:31PM WE HAVE NOTHING NEW TO PRESENT.
12:35:34PM I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT
12:35:38PM IDEAS YOU ALL HAD ON WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE AND ADDRESS THE
12:35:42PM ISSUE FOR OFF-SITE PARKING, BUT WE HAVE NOTHING FORMAL TO
12:35:46PM PRESENT TODAY.
12:35:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:35:49PM DO YOU WANT TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE PowerPoint?
12:35:51PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ADD ANYTHING TO THAT?
12:35:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PURPOSE IS JUST TO CHANGE THE RULES SO
12:36:02PM THAT WE CAN TAKE OUT, SO WE CAN REQUIRE THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE
12:36:06PM EARLY TERMINATION, THAT THE COMPLAINT FROM PROPERTY OWNERS
12:36:10PM AND NEIGHBORHOODS IS THAT PEOPLE, THEY WILL GET A PARKING
12:36:14PM LEASE AND THEN A MONTH OR SO AFTER THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE
12:36:18PM THEIR ALCOHOL LICENSE OR WHATEVER, THEY'LL CANCEL IT AND
12:36:23PM THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL RELEASE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
12:36:25PM IT IS TO REMOVE THAT.
12:36:27PM IS THERE ANYTHING -- WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO TO --
12:36:31PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR US TO COME BACK WITH
12:36:34PM A TEXT AMENDMENT TO CHANGE IT, BUT THAT WAS NEVER PART OF
12:36:36PM THE CYCLE WE'RE IN NOW.
12:36:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: TELL ME WHAT MOTION I SHOULD MAKE.
12:36:40PM >>ERIC COTTON: IF THAT IS THE GOAL OF CITY COUNCIL, THERE
12:36:42PM WERE TWO ISSUES THAT CAME UP, THE LENGTH OF THE LEASE,
12:36:46PM WHETHER IT BE 5, 10 -- WHATEVER LONG THAT LEASE IS AND THE
12:36:51PM EARLY TERMINATION.
12:36:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: ASK STAFF TO BRING BACK A TEXT AMENDMENT TO
12:36:56PM ADDRESS THE LENGTH OF LEASE AND EARLY TERMINATION ON PARKING
12:37:01PM LEASES.
12:37:02PM >>ERIC COTTON: THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PART OF A JULY CYCLE --
12:37:07PM JULY 2025 CYCLE.
12:37:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS PART OF JULY 2025 CYCLE.
12:37:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL SECOND.
12:37:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
12:37:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT MS. FEELEY SAID WE WEREN'T DOING
12:37:17PM ANY MORE TEXT AMENDMENTS UNTIL AFTER THE LDC WAS DONE.
12:37:21PM >>ERIC COTTON: IN JULY 2025, ONE OF THE CYCLES COMING
12:37:24PM THROUGH IS IN RELATION TO THE BONUS CRITERIA THAT'S BEING
12:37:26PM ADOPTED IN THE COMP PLAN.
12:37:27PM SO PART OF THAT LIST.
12:37:29PM WANT THIS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE MAJOR CODE UPDATE.
12:37:33PM THAT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE.
12:37:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD TO KNOW.
12:37:36PM THANK YOU.
12:37:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
12:37:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAD TO STEP OUT FOR A FEW SECONDS
12:37:42PM BECAUSE I HAD SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO DO, THIS IS WHEN
12:37:46PM YOU BUY A PROPERTY AND YOU NEED A PARKING AREA FOR BUSINESS
12:37:49PM TO CONTAIN, FIVE-YEAR LEASE, NO MAXIMUM, UP TO FIVE YEARS,
12:37:54PM YOU HAVE TO HOLD IT, NO MATTER IF YOU HAVE ONE YEAR, STILL
12:37:57PM PAY WHATEVER IT IS.
12:37:58PM IF I RECALL BACK YEARS AGO, CERTAIN AREA OF TOWN WAS USING
12:38:03PM THAT AND I BELIEVE I VOTED AGAINST ALL OF THEM.
12:38:05PM THEY CAN SAY YEAH AND BREAK THE LEASE AND THEY GOT WHAT THEY
12:38:09PM WANTED.
12:38:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOUTH HOWARD --
12:38:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T MENTION --
12:38:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
12:38:17PM ANY OTHER STATEMENTS?
12:38:20PM DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING, MANISCALCO?
12:38:22PM ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
12:38:24PM YES, WE HAVE MS. POYNOR, MS. BULLOCK AND MR. MICHELINI.
12:38:30PM I THINK MS. BULLOCK LEFT.
12:38:32PM AND HE SAID NO.
12:38:34PM MS. POYNOR.
12:38:40PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
12:38:41PM I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS IS A PET PEEVE OF MY BUDDY
12:38:46PM ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE.
12:38:48PM HONESTLY, WHEN HE BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION, I'M PRETTY
12:38:52PM SURE THAT HE'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS HAS COME FORWARD.
12:38:55PM WAS BECAUSE THE FOLKS WOULD ENTER INTO A CONTRACT AND IT
12:39:00PM WOULD HAVE A 30-DAY OUT CLAUSE.
12:39:03PM PARKING IS A PREMIUM HERE.
12:39:06PM I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT MY PHONE BECAUSE I HAVE ALL THE
12:39:08PM PICTURES OF THESE PEOPLE PARKED OUTSIDE OF ALL THE APARTMENT
12:39:11PM COMPLEXES DOWN NEAR US NOW.
12:39:13PM BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
12:39:16PM I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THERE WASN'T ALREADY A MOTION FOR
12:39:19PM THIS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT WAY
12:39:22PM LONGER THAN WE TALKED ABOUT GARAGES.
12:39:24PM BUT HEY, WHAT DO I KNOW?
12:39:26PM THANK YOU.
12:39:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:39:27PM ALL RIGHT.
12:39:28PM WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR FINAL ITEM -- WHAT DID WE HAVE A
12:39:34PM MOTION FOR?
12:39:35PM YOUR REQUEST.
12:39:35PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:39:36PM AND YOU WERE THE SECOND.
12:39:37PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
12:39:39PM >> AYE.
12:39:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OPPOSED?
12:39:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. COTTON.
12:39:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:39:43PM ITEM NUMBER 7, MR. COTTON, THE TEXT AMENDMENTS, RIGHT?
12:39:49PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, MA'AM.
12:39:50PM WE'RE BEFORE YOU FOR THE JULY 2024.
12:39:56PM SHOULD HAVE WRAPPED THIS INTO THE JULY 2025 TEXT AMENDMENT
12:40:00PM CYCLE.
12:40:00PM THIS IS A WORKSHOP.
12:40:03PM THE LAST FORMALIZED WORKSHOP.
12:40:06PM AT THE END, WE'LL ASK TO YOU TRANSMIT THIS TO THE PLANNING
12:40:10PM COMMISSION FOR THEIR REVIEW AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK TO
12:40:13PM YOU SOMETIME I BELIEVE IN JULY FOR ACTUAL FIRST READING AND
12:40:17PM THEN SECOND READING.
12:40:18PM THERE'S, AGAIN, WE DO THIS TWICE A YEAR NORMALLY, THE TEXT
12:40:25PM AMENDMENT CYCLE.
12:40:26PM JANUARY AND JULY ARE THE CYCLES.
12:40:30PM WE'RE IN THE CURRENT CYCLE.
12:40:32PM DIDN'T DO ONE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, BUT JULY 2024 CYCLE.
12:40:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD WE DO A POINT OF ORDER FOR THE PUBLIC?
12:40:43PM JUST TO TELL THE PUBLIC, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF E-MAILS ABOUT
12:40:47PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROPOSAL.
12:40:48PM THIS IS NOT THAT.
12:40:50PM THAT MEETING IS TONIGHT.
12:40:51PM SO IF YOU ARE WATCHING, THIS IS NOT THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO
12:40:54PM BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
12:40:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD POINT.
12:40:57PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE FIRST ROUND ARE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE
12:41:01PM INITIATED BY CITY COUNCIL TO SECTION 27-61150.
12:41:09PM WE'RE ADDING A LINE FOR SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
12:41:17PM THEN THE ONES ADDED ON BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN FOR THE
12:41:20PM PARKING GARAGE DEPTH AND PARKING -- FOR PARKING.
12:41:25PM I'LL GO THROUGH THESE A LITTLE MORE IN DETAIL.
12:41:28PM THE FIRST ONE WAS 27-61, THE REVIEW HEARING.
12:41:31PM TO SUMMARIZE THIS REQUEST, IT IS TO BASICALLY REMOVE THE
12:41:36PM HEARING OFFICER FROM THE PROCESS FROM FORMAL DECISIONS.
12:41:41PM WHEN THAT IS APPEALED, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DETERMINATION IS
12:41:44PM APPEALED, STEP NOW IT GOES TO HEARING OFFICER.
12:41:47PM THE HEARING OFFICER WRITES AN ORDER THAT COMES BEFORE CITY
12:41:49PM COUNCIL AND CITY COUNCIL THEN EITHER UPHOLDS THE HEARING
12:41:52PM OFFICER OR DOESN'T.
12:41:53PM THIS WOULD HAVE ALL THOSE HEARINGS, ANY APPEALS FROM A
12:41:57PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DETERMINATION GO DIRECTLY TO CITY
12:42:00PM COUNCIL.
12:42:01PM THE ONE ADDITION TO THIS IS THE FACT, DOING THAT IS FOR THAT
12:42:06PM PROCESS, A FINAL ORDER WOULD HAVE TO BE ISSUED BY CITY
12:42:10PM COUNCIL.
12:42:11PM AGAIN, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE THE
12:42:13PM ABILITY TO GO TO CIRCUIT COURT.
12:42:15PM SO THERE WOULD BE A MORE FORMALIZED PROCESS AT THE END
12:42:19PM VERSUS JUST A MOTION TO OVERTURN OR UPHOLD.
12:42:21PM YOU ALL DO HAVE THE PACKETS FOR THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE.
12:42:29PM 27-150, A MOTION TO REMOVE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
12:42:34PM ABILITY TO WAIVE THE 12-MONTH WAITING PERIOD.
12:42:40PM RIGHT NOW, IF SOMEBODY IS DOING A REZONING, MOST LIKELY A
12:42:46PM PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THEY ARE DENIED AND THAT PERSON CAN
12:42:49PM SHOW THEY WERE DENIED FOR THREE REASONS BY CITY COUNCIL AND
12:42:52PM THAT PERSON REDESIGNS THEIR SITE AND ADDRESSES THOSE THREE
12:42:56PM REASONS FOR DENIAL, THE ZI CAN WAIVE THE 12 MONTH PROCESS.
12:43:01PM THAT'S REMOVING THE ABILITY FOR ME TO DO SO.
12:43:03PM THIS GOES INTO THE PARKING LOT ISSUES, THE PARKING STUFF.
12:43:12PM THIS IS A FOOTNOTE IN TABLE 4-2, WHICH IS THE USE, WHICH IS
12:43:20PM THE DIMENSIONAL CRITERIA FOR THE CODE.
12:43:22PM THIS IS REMOVING THE ABILITY -- RIGHT NOW, IF YOU ARE DOING
12:43:27PM A SIDE LOAD GARAGE, CORNER, SIDE LOAD GARAGE IS ALLOWED TO
12:43:31PM BE AT TEN FEET.
12:43:32PM THIS WOULD REQUIRE TO BE AT THE 18 FEET LIKE A GARAGE IN THE
12:43:34PM FRONT.
12:43:35PM THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE ABILITY TO HAVE ANYBODY HANG OVER
12:43:38PM INTO THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:43:41PM THROUGH THE DESIGN EXCEPTION PROCESS, IF SOMEBODY IS COMING
12:43:45PM IN OFF AN ALLEY, THEY COULD STILL ASK FOR THAT REDUCTION.
12:43:48PM THAT WOULD THEN BE DONE, WHEN THAT GETS PROCESSED BY US,
12:43:52PM MOBILITY WEIGHS IN ON THAT SO THEY CAN HAVE A SAY WHAT'S
12:43:56PM GOING ON WITH THAT KIND OF REQUEST.
12:43:57PM FOR UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVER OF PARKING, THERE WAS A
12:44:03PM COMMENT REGARDING PARKING FOR SINGLE-FAMILY AND TWO FAMILY
12:44:10PM -- OR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
12:44:12PM THERE WAS DISCUSSION AT CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE REMOVING THAT
12:44:14PM FROM THIS SECTION.
12:44:15PM THE DISCUSSION WAS -- OKAY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BUT
12:44:22PM NOT INSIDE OF A GARAGE.
12:44:24PM I GUESS SOME COUNCIL HEARINGS WHERE YOU HAD A GARAGE EXTRA
12:44:27PM DEEP AND PEOPLE PARKING BACK TO BACK INSIDE THE GARAGE.
12:44:31PM I WOULD REMOVE THAT REQUEST.
12:44:33PM COMING OUT OF THIS SECTION OF THE CODE.
12:44:35PM THIS IS A SECTION THAT'S REGARDING THE GARAGE DEPTH.
12:44:37PM I'M KEEPING UP WITH MY NOTEBOOK OVER HERE WITH THE ACTUAL
12:44:47PM CODE SECTIONS.
12:44:48PM THIS IS NOW CREATING THE MINIMUM SIZE FOR GARAGES.
12:44:52PM NOT CURRENTLY CODIFIED.
12:44:53PM THIS REALLY ONLY AFFECTS SOMEBODY IF THEY ARE NOT PROVIDING
12:44:56PM THE 18-FOOT LONG DRIVEWAY.
12:44:58PM FOR MOST PEOPLE, MOST ZONING IN THE CITY REQUIRES A MINIMUM
12:45:03PM OF 20 TO 25-FOOT SETBACK FOR THE FRONT YARD ANYWAY.
12:45:07PM FRONT LOAD GARAGE YOU SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE ONE
12:45:09PM CAR IN THE -- OR TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE, THAT GARAGE DOESN'T
12:45:14PM MATTER HOW WIDE IT IS OR NOT HAVE A GARAGE AT ALL BECAUSE
12:45:18PM YOUR TWO REQUIRED PARKING SPACES WOULD BE IN THE DRIVEWAY
12:45:22PM ITSELF.
12:45:22PM AGAIN, TANDEM PARKING ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR
12:45:28PM PARKING PADS OR FOR THE DRIVEWAYS.
12:45:30PM WHEN WE WROTE THE LANGUAGE WE SAID THERE WAS NO WAIVER
12:45:35PM EITHER THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, THROUGH A VARIANCE
12:45:39PM BEFORE THE VRB OR BLC OR ARC OR PD FROM CITY COUNCIL.
12:45:46PM THIS IS ACTUALLY A CHANGE IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW, THE
12:45:58PM DRAWINGS WERE NOT REALLY DONE PROPERLY BACK HISTORICALLY.
12:46:04PM SO I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THE NEW GRAPHIC WAS UPDATED TO SHOW
12:46:10PM THAT THAT DISTANCE FROM HERE TO THERE, THAT WAS NOT -- IT
12:46:15PM USED TO SHOW THE DRIVEWAY APRON GOING OUT THERE.
12:46:19PM AND THE DIMENSIONS WERE NOT CORRECT.
12:46:20PM WE FIXED THAT TO SAY THIS IS NOW 18 FEET, MINIMUM OF 18
12:46:24PM FEET, 18 FEET, INSTEAD OF THE 15 FEET OR 3 FEET, WHATEVER
12:46:28PM THE CODE PREVIOUSLY SAID.
12:46:29PM IT IS AN UPDATE TO THE GRAPHIC ITSELF.
12:46:31PM THE NEXT PORTION WAS FOR THE BUILD-TO LINE.
12:46:44PM WE CREATED A DEFINITION.
12:46:46PM IT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY DEFINED IN THE CODE.
12:46:48PM NOW IT SAYS BASICALLY THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO
12:46:51PM THE FRONT WALL OF THE STRUCTURE.
12:46:52PM THE NEXT ONE IS WE JUST CHANGED THE LANGUAGE ON HOW THE BTL
12:47:05PM IS MEASURED.
12:47:06PM THIS IS LANGUAGE THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD AT
12:47:08PM CITY COUNCIL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WHICH IS WHEN YOU HAVE
12:47:11PM A VACANT LOT, THE DEFAULT AT 20 FEET, ADJACENT TO A VACANT
12:47:15PM LOT THAT LOT WOULD BE 20 FEET.
12:47:18PM YOUR LOT -- THAT'S CODIFYING HOW WE CURRENTLY DO THE
12:47:22PM MEASUREMENTS.
12:47:23PM WE ALSO UPDATED THE DRAWINGS, IF COUNCIL RECALLS.
12:47:31PM WE HAVE CREATED ALL THE GRAPHICS TO SHOW THIS IS THE
12:47:41PM PROPERTY LINE.
12:47:42PM BEFORE, THE LINES WENT FORWARD ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE
12:47:45PM STREET.
12:47:46PM THIS IS NOW DEFINITELY ENDING AT THE PROPERTY LINE TO AVOID
12:47:49PM THAT CONFUSION.
12:47:50PM THE NEXT IS A SET INITIATED BY STAFF.
12:47:58PM EITHER MYSELF OR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE OR THE LEGAL
12:48:03PM DEPARTMENT.
12:48:05PM I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE.
12:48:09PM THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
12:48:13PM RIGHT NOW IN THE CODE, WE HAVE DESIGN EXCEPTION ONE, DESIGN
12:48:16PM EXCEPTION TWO, WE HAVE SEPARATE CRITERIA FOR WHERE YOU'RE
12:48:20PM LOCATED IN THE CITY, WHAT PLANNING DISTRICT YOU'RE IN.
12:48:22PM IF YOU'RE IN CENTRAL TAMPA VERSUS SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
12:48:25PM DISTRICT, WHAT YOU CAN ASK FOR IS DIFFERENT.
12:48:28PM THIS WOULD REQUIRE THEM ALL TO BE THE SAME.
12:48:31PM SO YOU HAVE A SET, BOTH ON STAFF SIDE AND ON THE PUBLIC
12:48:34PM SIDE, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN REQUEST.
12:48:36PM THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN GET.
12:48:37PM IF YOU NEED MORE THAN THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SEEK A
12:48:40PM VARIANCE FROM VRB OR ARC, WHATEVER YOU HAPPEN TO BE IN.
12:48:44PM THIS IS REQUIRING NOTICE FOR ALL DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
12:48:48PM THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF NOT INCLUDING CERTAIN ONES FOR SAKE
12:48:52PM OF STAFF, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO HAVE EVERYBODY, ALL
12:48:57PM DESIGN EXCEPTIONS -- GET NOTICE SO STAFF DOESN'T
12:49:00PM INADVERTENTLY SAY YOU DON'T NEED TO DO A NOTICE OR YOU DO
12:49:04PM NEED TO DO A NOTICE AND PEOPLE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS THEY
12:49:06PM DON'T NEED TO BE IN.
12:49:08PM THIS IS REQUIRING NOTICE.
12:49:09PM AFTER FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL, THE DECISION WAS TO MAKE IT
12:49:12PM FROM 15 DAYS WHICH IT CURRENTLY IS TO 30 DAY NOTICE.
12:49:17PM I KNOW THIS IS SMALL.
12:49:18PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:49:19PM I CAN BLOW THAT UP SOME.
12:49:21PM RIGHT NOW IN THE CODE FOR VARIANCES AND FOR SOME OF THE
12:49:27PM ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES LIKE THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, THERE'S
12:49:30PM NO CODE REQUIREMENT FOR WHAT MINIMALLY HAS TO BE ON A SITE
12:49:34PM PLAN.
12:49:35PM THOSE ON THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, YOU GET SOME ODD SITE
12:49:39PM PLANS ARE SUBMITTED.
12:49:41PM THIS IS BASICALLY GOING TO REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE STANDARDIZED
12:49:43PM SITE PLANS, WE TOOK SOME OF THE STUFF FROM THE PD SITE PLAN
12:49:48PM THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH SEEING AND INCORPORATING.
12:49:50PM MOST OF THESE ARE NOT AT THE SAME SKILL OR LEVEL OF A
12:49:54PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT BUT REQUIRE THE SAME -- SITE DATA TABLE.
12:50:00PM NORTH ARROW, NAMES OF STREETS, LOCATION OF TREES.
12:50:03PM ALL THAT STUFF SHOULD BE ON A PLAN.
12:50:05PM THIS IS INITIATED CURRENTLY WHEN THE ARC MAKES A DECISION.
12:50:18PM THAT WOULD BE APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.
12:50:20PM THIS WOULD CHANGE THAT TO APPEAL, SIMILAR TO WHAT THE BLC,
12:50:24PM WHEN BLC ADMINISTRATOR MAKES A DETERMINATION, APPEALED TO
12:50:27PM BLC, MAKE THE ARC THE SAME WAY.
12:50:34PM 27-132, BLOW THIS UP AGAIN.
12:50:39PM EASIER TO SEE.
12:50:40PM PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, COUNCIL AMENDED THE
12:50:47PM REQUIREMENTS FOR ADU AND ALLOWED THEM TO BE IN NONCONFORMING
12:50:52PM STRUCTURES, STRUCTURES MADE CONFORMING AS A RESULT OF
12:50:54PM VARIANCE.
12:50:55PM THIS IS TAKING SOME OF THAT SAME LANGUAGE AND PUTTING INTO
12:50:59PM EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE, MOTHER-IN-LAW, FATHER-IN-LAW,
12:51:03PM GRANDPARENTS WHEN THEY NEED TO MOVE SOMEWHERE, MIMICKING THE
12:51:07PM SAME LANGUAGE.
12:51:07PM COUNCIL, YOU HAVE SEEN PROBABLY QUITE A FEW IN YOUR TIME ON
12:51:10PM COUNCIL OF APPEALS FOR SPECIAL USE ONES THAT STAFF HAS
12:51:14PM DENIED WHEN THE PERSON HAD A 2.8-FOOT SETBACK INSTEAD OF
12:51:17PM 3-FOOT SETBACK.
12:51:19PM THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THOSE COMING BEFORE YOU.
12:51:21PM THIS IS A FOOTNOTE IN TABLE 4-2.
12:51:30PM THOUGH THE CODE WAS AMENDED PROBABLY IN I WANT TO SAY 2017,
12:51:38PM 2018 THAT WOULD ALLOW BUILDERS OR SOMEBODY DEVELOPING ON
12:51:44PM THEIR PROPERTY TO ADJUST THEIR SETBACKS WITHOUT GOING
12:51:47PM THROUGH ANY OTHER PROCESS.
12:51:48PM IF THEY WERE SAVING A GRAND OR SPECIMEN TREE.
12:51:52PM WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR EXPERIENCE, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE
12:51:54PM COME IN, THE TREE IS IN THE BACKYARD, IT'S OUTSIDE THE
12:51:58PM 20-FOOT SETBACK FOR THE PROTECTIVE RADIUS, THAT TREE ANYWAY.
12:52:03PM PEOPLE SAY I'M SAVING THE TREE, I WANT TO PICK UP THE EXTRA
12:52:08PM SQUARE FOOTAGE.
12:52:09PM THERE WAS NO OFFSET FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
12:52:11PM IN A SENSE REDUCE SETBACK AND PICK UP ANOTHER 500 SQUARE
12:52:15PM FEET OR WHATEVER.
12:52:16PM THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE CODE.
12:52:19PM IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO ADJUST THEIR SETBACKS THEY HAVE TO
12:52:22PM EITHER GET A DESIGN EXCEPTION OR SEEK A VARIANCE.
12:52:25PM IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW, THIS IS FOR PERMIT REMOVAL FOR GRAND
12:52:41PM TREES.
12:52:41PM THIS WAS WRITTEN BY ONE OF OUR TREE GUYS OR TREE EXPERTS.
12:52:55PM I'M NOT ONE.
12:52:56PM SO GIVE ME A MOMENT TO REMEMBER THIS.
12:52:58PM THIS IS JUST DISCUSSING, IF YOU HAVE A TREE LIMIT OF MORE
12:53:07PM THAN FOUR INCHES IN DIAMETER, 12-INCH FROM THE BASE, YOU
12:53:11PM HAVE THE BASE OF YOUR TREE, HAD -- THE BRANCHES THAT COME
12:53:18PM OUT, HAVE TO BE SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
12:53:21PM NORMALLY WHEN YOU GET AN ARBORIST REPORT IT'S SHOWN THERE.
12:53:25PM RELYING ON THE ARBORIST REPORT VERSUS STAFF GOING OUT AND
12:53:29PM DOING THE MEASUREMENTS TO ENSURE IT IS CORRECT.
12:53:31PM CERTIFIED ARBORIST WOULD BE THE ONE WRITING UP THE REPORT
12:53:35PM AND SHOWING WHERE THIS IS AND HOW IT'S BEING AFFECTED.
12:53:38PM THIS WAS SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, WHICH ARE YOUR TYPICALLY
12:53:50PM TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT.
12:53:53PM PREVIOUSLY, WE DID NOT HAVE THE REQUIREMENT TO BUFFER ITSELF
12:53:56PM FROM -- WOULD NOT REQUIRE THE 15-FOOT BUFFER.
12:54:00PM THIS IS REMOVING THAT SECTION FROM THE CODE.
12:54:02PM WE THINK PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT IN 2022 THAT
12:54:05PM ADDED THAT IN THERE.
12:54:07PM I DON'T KNOW IF WHEN IT WAS CODIFIED GOT MESSED UP OR
12:54:11PM MUNICODE PUT IT IN THE FORMAT BUT THIS IS REMOVING THE
12:54:14PM REQUIREMENT.
12:54:14PM ABBYE AND I DID RESEARCH, WENT BACK TO ORIGINAL CHAPTER 43.
12:54:19PM NEVER IN THERE REQUIRING IT SO WE TOOK IT BACK OUT.
12:54:22PM FOR AIR CONDITIONING AND POOLS AND GENERATORS, GENERATORS
12:54:27PM WERE NOT IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW.
12:54:31PM AS PEOPLE ARE REBUILDING AND RAISING THEIR HOMES UP IN
12:54:34PM FLOOD-PRONE AREAS, TECO IS REQUIRING THAT THE METER BE PUT
12:54:39PM UP HIGHER TO BE OUT OF THE FLOOD ISSUE.
12:54:42PM BUT TECO REQUIRES A PLATFORM TO BE INSTALLED.
12:54:45PM CODE IS SILENT ON THAT.
12:54:47PM THIS IS JUST INCLUDING THAT INTO THE CODE NOW HAVING
12:54:50PM SPECIFIC SETBACKS FOR GENERATORS OR AIR CONDITIONING STANDS
12:54:55PM AND TECO STANDS, WHAT THE SETBACK WOULD HAVE TO BE.
12:54:58PM AND THAT IS THE LAST OF THE AMENDMENTS.
12:55:05PM THE NEXT PAGE IS WHERE WE ARE.
12:55:07PM SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN MAY, 2025.
12:55:12PM THIS IS THE LAST, THE DRAFT LANGUAGE UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO
12:55:16PM MAKE CHANGES OR SUGGESTIONS, WE CAN DO THAT.
12:55:18PM THIS WOULD BE TRANSMITTED -- THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE
12:55:22PM TRANSMITTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
12:55:23PM WE HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION BRIEFING IN JULY.
12:55:27PM AUGUST WE WOULD HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND
12:55:29PM COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A DAYTIME MEETING TO ACTUALLY HAVE
12:55:32PM THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
12:55:34PM SEPTEMBER WOULD BE THE SECOND READING.
12:55:36PM OCTOBER 1st, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE GOING FORWARD INTO THE
12:55:40PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:55:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MANISCALCO, IS YOUR LIGHT ON FOR A REASON?
12:55:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, MA'AM.
12:55:45PM I'M SORRY.
12:55:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:55:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DETAILING
12:55:51PM EACH OF THESE.
12:55:52PM I'M FINE WITH MOVING THEM FORWARD.
12:55:56PM GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A
12:56:01PM CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM AGAIN.
12:56:03PM I KNOW YOU WANT TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED TO GET IT THROUGH
12:56:06PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
12:56:07PM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORT TO GET THESE TO
12:56:09PM THIS POINT.
12:56:10PM THESE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT
12:56:12PM ABOUT.
12:56:13PM SO WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.
12:56:14PM >>ERIC COTTON: YOU'RE WELCOME.
12:56:16PM THANK YOU.
12:56:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MS. POYNOR AND
12:56:21PM MR. MICHELINI.
12:56:22PM ARE YOU ALL PASSING?
12:56:45PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
12:56:46PM 12 MONTHS BEING WAIVED, THAT'S AMAZING.
12:56:50PM IT SAVES EVERYBODY A WHOLE BUNCH OF GRIEF.
12:56:52PM YOU KNOW THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, DEVELOPERS HAVE THE
12:56:54PM OPPORTUNITY TO AT THEIR NOTIFICATION OF FILING, THEY HAVE
12:57:01PM THEIR GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
12:57:03PM THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
12:57:05PM AND IF THEY COME HERE AND THEY LOSE, FRICKING PAPER WORK
12:57:09PM BACK THERE, YOU GUYS APPROVE 92% OF WHAT COMES IN FRONT OF
12:57:13PM YOU.
12:57:13PM 92%.
12:57:14PM THAT MEANS 8% ARE REALLY, REALLY CRAPPY PLANS.
12:57:18PM AND IF THEY ARE THAT BAD, AND THEY HAVE TALKED TO THE
12:57:21PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY STILL DECIDED TO COME IN HERE WITH
12:57:24PM CRAPPY PLANS, WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?
12:57:26PM NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT THAT ONE OUT.
12:57:29PM TANDEM PARKING IS NOT REALISTIC.
12:57:31PM IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
12:57:31PM I HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH THE ISSUE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD OF
12:57:36PM HAVING DEFICIENT DRIVEWAYS.
12:57:38PM THOSE FOLKS, WE'VE GOT GARAGES THAT ARE TOO SMALL AND THOSE
12:57:42PM FOLKS HAVE TO PARK -- THEY DON'T EVEN LIKE TO PARK BEHIND
12:57:44PM ONE ANOTHER.
12:57:45PM I SHOWED YOU GUYS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:57:47PM WE HAVE 27 VISITOR PARKING SPACES.
12:57:50PM ANY TIME OF DAY, ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
12:57:53PM DAY, MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
12:57:55PM AT LEAST 12 OF THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE TAKEN UP BY PEOPLE
12:57:58PM WHO OWN IN THE COMMUNITY.
12:58:00PM THEY ARE NOT VISITORS.
12:58:01PM THE OTHER THING IS GARAGE SIZES.
12:58:07PM OH, I DON'T CARE IF THEY ARE ENCLOSED OR NOT.
12:58:10PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, FEMA SAYS WE SHOULD STOP FILLING UNDER
12:58:14PM HOUSES.
12:58:14PM SO PUT THE HOUSES UP ON THE PILLARS AND LET THEM HAVE
12:58:18PM OPEN-AIR GARAGES OR OPEN-AIR FACILITIES.
12:58:22PM QUITE A FEW OF THEM IN PORT TAMPA ALREADY.
12:58:25PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE A CODE THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T
12:58:28PM HAVE OPEN PARKING UNDERNEATH YOUR HOME.
12:58:30PM THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
12:58:32PM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT.
12:58:35PM I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.
12:58:36PM I'M SURE I'M FORGETTING SOMETHING.
12:58:38PM THANK YOU.
12:58:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. MICHELINI.
12:58:43PM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:58:44PM I SENT AN E-MAIL TO YOU REGARDING THE GARAGE SIZES.
12:58:48PM THEY SHOULD BE SET AT 19 FEET OF WIDTH ON THE INSIDE
12:58:53PM DIMENSION.
12:58:55PM THAT'S A STANDARD PARKING SIZE.
12:58:57PM AND 18 FEET IN DEPTH.
12:59:00PM YOU'VE ADDED AND PER THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HELD AT COUNCIL
12:59:04PM BEFORE, YOU'VE ADDED AN ASSUMPTION THAT YOU CAN'T STORE YOUR
12:59:10PM SOLID WASTE, YOUR GARBAGE CANS AND ALL THAT OUTSIDE.
12:59:14PM THAT SHOULD BE A DESIGN ISSUE THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE
12:59:18PM BUILDER TO SOLVE AND NOT INCORPORATED THAT ENDS UP CREATING
12:59:22PM A HARDSHIP FOR THE BUILDER.
12:59:23PM WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THAT YOU SET THE INSIDE DIMENSION
12:59:29PM AT 19 AND THE DEPTH AT 18 FEET.
12:59:32PM ALLOW THE DRIVEWAY AT 18 FEET, MINIMUM LENGTH TO COUNT
12:59:36PM TOWARD REQUIRED PARKING.
12:59:38PM THAT ALSO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURES.
12:59:41PM REMOVE THE OBLIGATION FOR ENCLOSED PARKING.
12:59:44PM THAT'S IN THE CODE.
12:59:46PM NOT ADDRESSED IN THIS AMENDMENT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND ALLOW
12:59:50PM NEW CARPORTS TO BE PARTIALLY ENCLOSED.
12:59:53PM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND IT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THIS CHANGE.
12:59:56PM YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT NOT ENCLOSING THE SIDE WALLS SO THAT
1:00:01PM YOU HAD THE EXTRA WIDTH TO GET IN AND OUT TO MANEUVER.
1:00:05PM ALLOW TANDEM PARKING AS LONG AS THE 18-FOOT OF DIMENSIONS
1:00:10PM ARE PROVIDED IN THE PARKING, IN THE DRIVEWAY.
1:00:13PM AND SOLID WASTE STORAGE IS A SEPARATE ISSUE AND NOT SHOULD
1:00:19PM BECOME AN OBLIGATION OF THE GARAGE.
1:00:21PM THE LAST ISSUE, NOT ALLOWING YOU TO FILE WITHIN A YEAR, A
1:00:27PM LOT OF THESE -- FIRST OF ALL, YOU CAN'T AMEND YOUR SITE PLAN
1:00:32PM WITHIN 30 DAYS OF APPEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
1:00:34PM IF YOU GET OTHER COMMENTS, EITHER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR
1:00:37PM FROM STAFF, YOU CAN'T MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
1:00:40PM SO WHEN YOU COME BEFORE YOU AND THE STAFF HAS -- AND THE
1:00:46PM PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE
1:00:49PM ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF BEING
1:00:52PM ABLE TO CHANGE THAT SITE PLAN.
1:00:54PM SO THE ONE YEAR, IF YOU COME BACK AND THE COUNCIL HAS MADE A
1:00:59PM MOTION THAT SPECIFIES WHAT THESE -- WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE
1:01:03PM AS YOU DO IN YOUR MOTION, THEN YOU HAVE THE BENEFIT OF BEING
1:01:06PM ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THAT SITE PLAN AND RESUBMIT WITHIN
1:01:10PM THE YEAR.
1:01:11PM IT CREATES A HARDSHIP.
1:01:14PM IF IT'S A LARGER PROJECT OR EVEN SMALLER PROJECTS TO HAVE
1:01:18PM THE BENEFIT OF YOUR DISCUSSION AND ANY PUBLIC HEARING
1:01:22PM DISCUSSION TO BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT
1:01:25PM UP BEFORE YOU.
1:01:26PM SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T MEET THEM, AND THAT MEANS THAT PROJECT
1:01:31PM IS DEAD.
1:01:32PM BUT IF YOU CAN MEET THEM AND THE STAFF IS LOOKING -- THEY
1:01:37PM LOOK AT THE MOTIONS BEFORE THEY CERTIFY A PLAN TO WAIVE THAT
1:01:41PM ONE YEAR.
1:01:42PM SO WE'D ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO DELETE THAT PORTION.
1:01:45PM THANK YOU.
1:01:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
1:01:48PM OKAY.
1:01:49PM SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO BE MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:01:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MAKE A MOTION TO TRANSMIT THE JULY 2024
1:01:59PM AMENDMENT CYCLE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
1:02:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
1:02:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND I HAVE A SECOND.
1:02:03PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
1:02:04PM >> AYE.
1:02:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OPPOSED?
1:02:06PM DO WE DO NEW BUSINESS OR SEE YOU ALL TONIGHT?
1:02:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TURN IN MY FORM --
1:02:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO WE TAKE MOTIONS FOR THOSE?
1:02:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
1:02:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU SECOND FOR CARLSON.
1:02:26PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF YOURS?
1:02:27PM AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF YOURS?
1:02:29PM BOTH MOTIONS CARRIED.
1:02:31PM MEETING ADJOURNED.
1:02:32PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
1:02:32PM SEE YOU ALL AT 5:00.
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