📝 City Council Meeting Transcript

TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MAY 8, 2025, 5:01 P.M.

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5:01:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
EVENING MEETING TO ORDER.
IF I COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
5:01:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
5:01:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
5:01:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
5:01:22PM >> HENDERSON?
VIERA?
5:01:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
5:01:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
5:01:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
5:01:27PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:01:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE ITEMS, THE PUBLIC
HEARINGS?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
5:01:40PM >> AYE.
5:01:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEMS 1 THROUGH 10 ARE OPEN.
WE NEED TO DO SOME CLEANUP ON THE AGENDA.
YES, MA'AM, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND WE'LL GO OVER
EVERYTHING.
5:01:52PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE HAVE SOME HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS TO ADDRESS.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, REZ-24-85, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED THE
APPLICATION BE WITHDRAWN.
PLEASE REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.
5:02:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEM NUMBER 8.
5:02:19PM >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, REZ-24-103, THE APPLICANT HAS
REQUESTED THE APPLICATION TO BE WITHDRAWN.
PLEASE REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.
5:02:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER
8.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.

SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
YES, MA'AM.
ITEM 10.
5:02:39PM >> AGENDA ITEM 10, REZ-25-37, THE APPLICANT WAS A MISNOTICE
AND WILL NOT BE HEARD.
PLEASE REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.
5:02:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 10 FROM
THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:02:57PM >> ALL OTHER ITEMS ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
5:02:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE.
IF ANYBODY IS GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 1 THROUGH 10, PLEASE
STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
5:03:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SIR, GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER 1.
5:03:31PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 IS REZ-25-02, A REQUEST TO REZONE 2701
NORTH FREMONT AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
WE'LL GET STARTED WITH OUR AERIAL MAP HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED ON NORTH
ST. JOHN AND FREMONT STREET.
SURROUNDING SUBJECT SITE IS LARGELY SURROUNDED WITH
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES AND RS 50 ZONING.
WEST BEACH STREET, IT TRANSITIONS TO RM 16 ZONING.
FROM THERE, YOU HAVE A BIT OF A MORE MIX OF USES.
GO NORTH, RM 16 USES AS WELL AND CI USES ALONG THE CORRIDOR
AND CI ALONG NORTH ROME AVENUE.
AT THE END OF THE BLOCK, ROME YARD SITE.
THIS WAS APPROVED FOR 1200 MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND 40
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS AND 56,000 SQUARE FEET OF
COMMERCIAL USES.
AND THEN ALSO SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, YOU HAVE ONE PARCEL
ZONED RM 18.
THAT WAS DONE BEFORE THIS COUNCIL SOMETIME RECENTLY, I WANT
TO SAY IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO.
MOVE ON TO THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
UNITS WITH LOT WIDTHS RANGING FROM 25 TO 30 FEET.

EACH UNIT IS ORIENTED TOWARDS WEST ST. JOHNS STREET.
EACH UNIT HAS A FRONT PORCH AND ALSO PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION
FROM THE FRONT DOOR AND THE FRONT PORCH TO THE EXISTING
SIDEWALK ALONG WEST ST. JOHNS STREET.
APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING A NEW SIDEWALK ON NORTH FREMONT
STREET.
VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED FROM THE REAR FROM
AN ALLEY.
EACH UNIT IS REQUIRED TWO PARKING SPACES AND TWO PARKING
SPACES ARE PROVIDED FOR EACH UNIT AND A CARPORT.
THE MAXIMUM PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHT IS 35 FEET.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 7 SHADE TREES.
THE SHADE TREES WILL BE LOCATED ALONG WEST ST. JOHN'S STREET
AND NORTH FREMONT AVENUE.
YOU HAVE FIVE SHOWN RIGHT NOW, BUT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING, THE APPLICANT DID AGREE TO PROVIDE TWO MORE TREES
HERE TO REPLACE THE TREES BEING REMOVED.
THAT WILL BE DONE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
SHOW YOU SOME ELEVATIONS NOW.
THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION ALONG ST. JOHN.
THAT IS THE NORTH.
THE BACK OF THE CARPORT WILL BE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR EAST AND WEST ELEVATION.
WE'LL RUN THROUGH SOME PICTURES NOW.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST.

THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE FROM NORTH FREMONT.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH.
THIS IS THE VIEW FROM ST. JOHN AT THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOME JUST TO THE EAST OF
THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING NORTH ON ST. JOHN STREET.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING EAST ON ST. JOHN.
AT THE END OF THE BLOCK IS WHERE ROME YARD WILL BE.
SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED HERE.
AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT
SITE ON WEST ST. JOHN.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING SOUTH ON FREMONT AVENUE AT THE
INTERSECTION WITH ST. JOHN.
SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED HERE.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST AT THE INTERSECTION.
AND THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON ST. JOHN.
SUBJECT PARCEL WOULD BE BACK BEHIND.
AND THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT SITE ON
FREMONT.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST.
LASTLY, WE'RE LOOKING NORTH ON FREMONT AVENUE TOWARDS
COLUMBUS DRIVE.
ONE MORE.
AND THIS IS LOOKING DOWN THE ALLEY.
SUBJECT SITE WOULD BE HERE.
HERE IS THE SITE PLAN AGAIN.

DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST
CONSISTENT.
THE PROPOSAL MORE EFFICIENT SUSTAINABLE USE OF LAND AND
INFRASTRUCTURE THAN THE EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ON THE
SITE.
DUE TO THE SUBJECT SITE'S UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE,
PROXIMITY OF PUBLIC TRANSIT LOCATED LESS THAN A THOUSAND
FEET AWAY AND LARGE SCALE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT
WITHIN PROXIMITY.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE,
MODIFICATIONS SHOWN ON THE REVISION SHEET MUST BE COMPLETED
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY.
5:08:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, MA'AM.
5:08:30PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT.
THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
THE OLD WEST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVACUATION ZONE D.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS REPRESENTED HERE WITH THE PURPLE
OUTLINE.
THE RESIDENTIAL 35 DESIGNATION IS THE SITE AS WELL AS THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
AS YOU MOVE NORTH TOWARDS WEST COLUMBUS, THE RED IS CC-35,

WHICH ALSO DOES COME DOWN NORTH ROME AVENUE.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND IT
CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY PLANNED FOR UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL 35 DESIGNATION AND POLICIES THAT SUPPORT INFILL
DEVELOPMENT ON VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LANDS.
THE REQUEST WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN
PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL SERVICES AND AMENITIES ALONG WEST
COLUMBUS DRIVE AND IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE FOUR PROPOSED UNITS WILL HAVE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY
WHICH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPORTS.
OVERALL, THE REQUEST SUPPORTS THE CITY'S HOUSING POLICIES BY
ADDING ADDITIONAL UNITS WITHIN THE OLD WEST TAMPA
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT
WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:09:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT.
HELLO, SIR.
5:09:44PM >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
I'M ASAD SHEIKH.
I'M THE APPLICANT OR I MAY BE LISTED AS THE AGENT ON THE
APPLICATION.
I JUST URGE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

ALL WE'RE DOING HERE IS BRINGING EXTRA DENSITY UNDER THE
FUTURE LAND USE, UP TO 8 UNITS WOULD BE ALLOWED WITH BONUS.
WE'RE ASKING FOR FOUR.
WE PROPOSED FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME UNITS VERSUS FOUR
TOWNHOME UNITS BECAUSE FROM INTERACTION WITH NEIGHBORHOOD,
THEY PREFER SINGLE-FAMILY VERSUS THE MASS AND SCALE OF FOUR
TOWNHOMES WOULD APPEAR AS ONE BUILDING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE PROPOSED WHAT WE DID.
WE HOPE THAT YOU APPROVE OUR APPLICATION.
THAT'S ALL.
5:10:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
I SEE NONE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 1.
I SEE NO ONE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
5:10:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE REZ-25-02, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2701
NORTH FREMONT AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD,
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

5:10:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:11:05PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025, AT
10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:11:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:11:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY I THOUGHT THE
APPLICANT'S EXPLANATION OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY WAS VERY
INTERESTING.
I HADN'T HEARD THAT BEFORE.
I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS.
5:11:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 2.
5:11:40PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
GOOD EVENING.
STEPHANIE POPE.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 2 IS REZ-25-21, REQUEST TO REZONE 3210 EAST
YUKON STREET FROM RS 60 TO RS 50.
WE'LL START WITH AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST YUKON
STREET WITHIN THE GENERAL VICINITY BETWEEN NORTH 33rd AND
NORTH CALDER PLACE.
THE SURROUNDING AREA'S DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS CHARACTERIZED
BY SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND
COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH ALONG BUSCH BOULEVARD.
SURROUNDING IT IS THE RS 60 AND HERE ALONG BUSCH BOULEVARD
IS THE COMMERCIAL.
DIRECTLY NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
ZONED RS 60.
GIVEN THE MIX OF USES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA SURROUNDING THE
SUBJECT BLOCK, THE REQUESTED RS 50 ZONING IS INCONSISTENT
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
NOW WE'LL PUT UP A SURVEY OF THE LOT.
HERE IS THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY LINE IS OUTLINED HERE, AND THIS IS EAST YUKON
STREET.
THIS IS NORTH 33rd STREET.
YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE OF THE PARCEL.
THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO SPLIT THE LOT INTO TWO PARCELS.
THE FRONTAGE FOR THE LOTS IS PROPOSED TO BE ON EAST YUKON
STREET.
NEXT, WE HAVE THE CONFORMING MAP.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS PART OF THE ELIZABETH COURT SUBDIVISION
BLOCK B, LOTS 26 AND 27.

THE SUBJECT BLOCK, BLOCK B, WAS PLATTED IN 1925 WITH 50 LOTS
WITH FRONTAGE RANGING IN WIDTH FROM 36 TO 56 FEET.
THE AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDES 258 PARCELS.
THE FOLLOWING ANALYSIS BEING PROVIDED FOCUSES ON THE PARCELS
FACING YUKON.
WE'RE FOCUSING ON THIS.
HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS ONE, AND THIS HERE.
THE SUBJECT BLOCK FACE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF YUKON STREET
BETWEEN NORTH CALDER AND NORTH 33rd STREET, WHICH IS RIGHT
HERE, HAS THREE PARCELS, INCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE.
TWO, OR 67%, HAVE LOT WIDTHS OVER 100 FEET AND ONE, OR 33
PERCENT, HAS A LOT WIDTHS OF 55 TO 59.99 FEET.
TO THE EAST, THE BLOCK FACE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF YUKON
BETWEEN NORTH 33rd STREET AND NORTH 34th STREET, WHICH
IS RIGHT HERE, CONTAINS FOUR PARCELS WITH 100% OF THOSE LOTS
HAVING A WIDTH OF 70 TO 74.99 FEET.
TO THE WEST, THE BLOCK FACE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF YUKON
STREET BETWEEN NORTH CALDER AND NORTH 30th, WHICH IS THIS
ONE HERE, CONTAINS SEVEN PARCELS WITH THREE PARCELS OR 43%
HAVING LOT WIDTHS OF 65 TO 69.99 FEET AND FOUR PARCELS OR
57% HAVING LOT WIDTHS OF 60 TO 64.99 FEET.
STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED IN THE OVERALL STUDY AREA THAT 85% OF
THE PARCELS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR
GREATER AND 15% HAVE A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
WHILE THERE ARE A VARIETY OF LOT SIZES WITHIN THE VICINITY

OF THE SUBJECT SITE, STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REQUEST TO BE
INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE
OVERALL STUDY AREA.
SINCE THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING, THERE IS NO SITE PLAN OR
ELEVATION.
NEXT I'LL SHOW SOME PHOTOS.
THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS YUKON HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
TO THE NORTH.
THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
HERE IS A PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE DOWN YUKON.
THIS IS THE SIDEWALK ALONG YUKON.
HERE IS A PHOTO LOOKING EAST DOWN YUKON BETWEEN 33rd AND
34th.
THIS IS THE BLOCK FACE IN THAT SAME AREA BETWEEN 33rd AND
34th ON YUKON.
THIS IS LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET, AND YOU CAN SEE THE
HILLSBOROUGH RIVER BACK HERE.
THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS THE LOT TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND LOOKING
WEST DOWN YUKON.
THIS IS DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

AND THIS IS THE HOME, THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE AT CALDER
AND YUKON.
THIS IS LOOKING FROM CALDER DOWN YUKON TOWARDS 30th.
THIS IS THAT BLOCK FACE ALONG YUKON BETWEEN CALDER AND
30th.
NOW WE'RE TURNED AROUND AND LOOKING EAST DOWN YUKON TOWARDS
CALDER.
THIS IS LOOKING DOWN CALDER.
THIS IS LOOKING DOWN YUKON BACK TOWARDS THE SUBJECT SITE.
FINALLY, THIS IS LOOKING DOWN 33rd.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION
AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY IF YOU HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
5:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.
THANK YOU.
COME ON UP.
5:17:36PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SITE IS WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT.
THE TEMPLE CREST NEIGHBORHOOD IN EVACUATION ZONE D.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT HERE OUTLINED IN PURPLE AND IT'S
REPRESENTED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION WHICH DOES
SURROUND THE SUBJECT SITE.

FURTHER NORTH ALONG EAST BUSCH BOULEVARD, THE PINK COLOR IS
THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
ACROSS THE STREET IS THE URBAN MIXED USE 60 AND HEAVY
INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATIONS.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND IT
CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION AND POLICIES THAT SUPPORT INFILL
DEVELOPMENT ON VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LANDS.
THE REQUEST WILL NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL
HOUSING WITHIN THE TEMPLE CREST NEIGHBORHOOD.
OVERALL THE PROPOSED REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT
COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE
SURROUNDING USES AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
5:18:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT.
YES, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:18:41PM >> MY NAME IS PHIL ZHONG.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO THE REASON FOR MY APPLICATION IS I WISH TO SPLIT THE LOT
AND PUT TWO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

I'M LOOKING TO BUILD SOMETHING WITH A SMALL FOOTPRINT,
ENERGY EFFICIENT AND COST-EFFECTIVE AND ALSO -- I PLAN TO
LIVE IN ONE MYSELF AND A RELATIVE HAS INDICATED INTEREST IN
THE OTHER.
THE STAFF REPORT SHOWED THAT THE PROPOSAL FITS THE
NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND OTHER
TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT MY APPLICATION.
NOW, I HAVE SPOKE TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.
SOME OF THEM ARE ON BOARD, BUT SOME DID INDICATE THEY
THOUGHT TOO MUCH DENSITY AND TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ALREADY.
THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISING TO ME BECAUSE THERE WERE
QUITE A FEW EMPTY LOTS AND ALSO THE CITY AT 40% OF THE
PLANNED DENSITY AT THIS POINT.
I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH, AND WHAT I FOUND IS -- SO
THE GREEN PIN YOU CAN SEE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE RED PIN ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY POPULAR VACATION SPOT WITH BUSCH
GARDENS TO THE NORTH AND HILLSBOROUGH RIVER TO THE SOUTH.
IT'S NOT QUITE THE QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD BY THE RIVER THAT I
INITIALLY THOUGHT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE CITY'S OWN HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT
FROM LAST YEAR INDICATED THAT THIS PARTICULAR ZIP CODE HAS
THE SECOND HIGHEST NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL AMONG ALL THE

ZIP CODES IN THE CITY.
WHEN A HOUSE IS PUT UP AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, USUALLY
ADVERTISE SLEEP SIX PEOPLE, SLEEP EIGHT.
BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE GO ON VACATION, MYSELF, FOR EXAMPLE, I
DON'T MIND SHARING A BEDROOM WITH SOMEONE, RIGHT?
IT SAVES THE COST.
THAT'S BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY.
THAT MAKES THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL MORE ATTRACTIVE.
I THINK THE STATE OR THE CITY HAS A RULE SAYING TWO PERSON
PER BEDROOM PLUS TWO MORE FOR THE HOUSE.
TWO BEDROOM TRANSLATE TO SIX PEOPLE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY AND
THREE BEDROOM INTO EIGHT.
SO WHEN THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL USUALLY END UP HOSTING MORE
PEOPLE THAN WHAT A TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD WOULD BE.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, IF WE WERE TO SEE THE TRUE IMPACT OF
SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER, WE KIND
OF HAVE TO DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE NUMBER OF RED PINS THAT
WE'RE SEEING HERE.
SO WHEN WE CONSIDER THE NEIGHBOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT TOO MUCH
DENSITY, TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ALREADY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE
CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT THESE EXISTING SHORT-TERM
RENTAL WITH THE HIGHER NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS LIKELY ALREADY IS
THE AFFECTED, THE REASON FOR SUCH SENTIMENT IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT YET THEY DON'T REALLY PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THE RESIDENTS

OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN MY PROJECT, YES, IT WOULD INCREASE THE DENSITY A
LITTLE BIT BY A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT IT WILL PRODUCE TWO
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE IN THE
COMMUNITY AS FULL-TIME RESIDENTS.
I ALSO HAVE AN E-MAIL FROM -- IN THE ATTACHMENT FROM ONE OF
THE GENTLEMEN WHO LIVES A FEW DOORS EAST OF ME.
HE TOLD ME HE SUPPORT ME, WHAT I WANT TO DO.
HE WANTS ME TO PROMISE HIM TO KEEP IT OWNER OCCUPIED AND NOT
TURN IT INTO ANY KIND OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU SUPPORT
MY APPLICATION.
5:22:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS THINKING, YOU MUST HAVE DONE A LOT
OF WORK IN FINDING OUT WHO WERE THE HOMEOWNERS AND WHO WERE
RENTALS.
YOU HAD OVER 30 THAT WERE RED.
5:23:04PM >> I WENT TO THE WEBSITE THAT THE SAME WEBSITE THAT THE CITY
USES --
5:23:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
EACH CITY HAS A RENTAL CERTIFICATE.
5:23:15PM >> I COULD NOT TELL CERTIFICATE WHETHER FOR SHORT-TERM OR
RENTAL -- OR LONG TERM.
TAX CERTIFICATE SHOWS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE RED PIN.
5:23:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
5:23:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 2.
I SEE NO ONE AND NO ONE REGISTERED.
MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 2?
5:23:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 3210 EAST YUKON STREET IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 60 TO RS 50
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
5:24:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID YOU SAY TO RS 50 OR DID I MISS THAT?
5:24:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
FROM RS 60 TO RS 50.
5:24:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:24:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A SELLING FEATURE TO
TALK ABOUT ALL THE AirBnBs BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING WE
CAN DO TO PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THAT TO A PROPERTY.
WE CAN'T REQUIRE YOU TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED.
THIS IS A LAND DECISION, NOT A USE DECISION.
I WAS ALREADY A LITTLE CONCERNED, BUT THAT MADE ME MORE
CONCERNED AND I WON'T SUPPORT THIS.

5:24:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
5:24:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT FOR THAT VERY REASON, BUT WHAT OUR
CITY STAFF JUST SAID ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK THIS DEFINITELY DOES SET AN
UNFORTUNATE PRECEDENT BY GOING FROM THE 60 TO THE 50 IN THE
MASSING AND SCALE ON THAT STREET, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS A
FORWARD FACING STREET.
I'M ALSO, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE AND THEY
CLEARLY, THE CITY STAFF CLEARLY POINTED OUT THIS WAS NOT
COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT PARCEL.
I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
5:25:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
I'LL ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
THE SECOND WAS FROM HENDERSON.
5:25:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
5:25:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
5:25:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
5:25:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
5:25:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
5:25:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
5:25:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
5:25:35PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND CLENDENIN
VOTING NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025, AT
10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY

BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:25:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 3.
5:25:56PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 IS REZ 25-23, REQUEST TO REZONE 1905
WEST SLIGH AVENUE FROM RO-1 TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED USES.
WE'LL START WITH AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.
ON WEST SLIGH AVENUE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED TWO LOTS WEST OF THE
INTERSECTION OF NORTH FREMONT AND WEST SLIGH.
HERE IS FREMONT.
AND HERE IS SLIGH.
THE SUBJECT SITE CONTAINS ONE PLATTED VACANT LOT.
THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE SUBJECT
SITE IS A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE, SINGLE-FAMILY,
ATTACHED AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNITS.
SOUTH OF THE SITE IS ZONED RS 50.
SOUTHWEST IS A PD, APPROVED, RS 50, PD APPROVED IN 1996 FOR
TOWNHOMES.
TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IS ZONED RO 1 FOR RESIDENTIAL OFFICE
AND EAST OF THE SITE IS A PD, APPROVED IN 1987 AND CURRENTLY
BEING USED FOR AN OFFICE AND RETAIL USE.

NORTH OF THE SITE IS ZONED RS 50.
NORTH OF THE SITE IS ZONED RS 50 THERE.
HERE IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN
IDENTIFYING ONE NEW THREE-STORY BUILDING ON-SITE CONTAINING
FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS.
HERE IS THE OUTLINE OF THE BUILDING.
UNIT ONE HERE AND THEN TWO THROUGH FIVE HERE.
THE BUILDING IS LOCATED NEAR THE EASTERN BORDER OF THE SITE.
THE SITE IS DESIGNED WITH ONE POINT OF VEHICULAR ACCESS ON
WEST SLIGH AVENUE, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT HERE, WHICH ALLOWS
FOR TWO-WAY INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE SITE.
EACH UNIT PROVIDES A ONE-CAR GARAGE AND ONE SURFACE PARKING
SPACE.
SO THERE ARE THE GARAGES AND THE PARKING SPACES.
THE MOST SOUTHERN UNIT, UNIT NUMBER 1, HAS A FRONT DOOR
ORIENTATION TOWARDS WEST SLIGH AVENUE.
THAT'S SHOWN HERE.
THE INTERNAL UNITS, UNITS NUMBER 2 THROUGH 5, HAVE FRONT
DOOR ORIENTATION TOWARD AN INTERNAL DRIVE AISLE.
PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS ARE PROVIDED INTERNALLY WITH ALL
WALKWAYS CONNECTING TO THE SIDEWALK PROVIDED ON SLIGH
AVENUE.
HERE ARE THE INTERNAL WALKWAYS TO THE SIDEWALK THERE ON
SLIGH.

THE REQUEST OF FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS
ON-SITE IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION ON THIS SEGMENT OF WEST
SLIGH AVENUE.
THE PROPOSED USE PROVIDES AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION FROM THE
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES TO THE WEST AND THE
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH EXISTS EAST OF THE SITE.
NEXT I'LL SHOW THE ELEVATIONS.
THIS IS THE EAST OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN THIS IS THE WEST
OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN HERE WE HAVE THE NORTH AND THEN THE SOUTH.
YOU CAN SEE THAT ENTRANCE FOR UNIT NUMBER 1.
NEXT I'LL SHOW SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
HERE IS A PHOTO OF THE SITE.
THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ACROSS WEST SLIGH AVENUE.
THERE YOU CAN SEE THE MULTIFAMILY, AND THEN THE
SINGLE-FAMILY THERE.
THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST DOWN WEST SLIGH AVENUE.
THIS IS THAT RETAIL AND OFFICE THAT IS EAST OF THE SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST DOWN SLIGH AVENUE AT FREMONT.
AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING NORTH DOWN FREMONT AND YOU CAN SEE
THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NORTH OF THAT AREA.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE

LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THERE IS ONE WAIVER AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE APPLICATION, THE MODIFICATIONS
TO THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED REVISED REVISION
SHEET, WHICH I HAVE RIGHT HERE AND WILL SUBMIT TO YOU IN
JUST A MOMENT MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
OTHERWISE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY.
5:30:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, MA'AM.
5:30:49PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
BEFORE I BEGIN MY PRESENTATION, THERE IS A REVISED STAFF
REPORT THAT I NEED TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD.
OUR REPORT INCORRECTLY STATED THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS SITE IS WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE
ARMENIA GARDENS ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS IN EVACUATION ZONE E.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE OUTLINED IN PURPLE, REPRESENTED
WITH THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION, WHICH IS TO THE EAST,
SOUTH, AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
TO THE NORTH IS RESIDENTIAL 10.
TO THE SOUTH IS RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE, AND THAT'S THE ROME
AND SLIGH PARK.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND IT

CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS POLICIES THAT SUPPORT INFILL
DEVELOPMENT ON VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LANDS.
THE REQUEST WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING WITHIN THE
ARMENIA GARDENS ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES IN PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL SERVICES ALONG
NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE WHICH IS FURTHER TO THE WEST OF THE
SITE OUTSIDE OF THE DEPICTION.
THE DESIGN MEETS THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
GUIDANCE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS, REGARDING
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY.
UNIT ONE ORIENTS TOWARDS WEST SLIGH AVENUE AND WHILE UNITS
TWO THROUGH FIVE FACE AN INTERNAL DRIVE AISLE THERE IS A
DEDICATED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG WEST
SLIGH AVENUE MEETING THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
OVERALL, THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE
WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:32:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
I SEE NONE.
APPLICANT?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 3?
YES, MA'AM.

COME ON UP.
5:32:47PM >> MY NAME IS LUISA ALONSO, THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CASE.
I'M ASKING THAT THE REQUEST BE APPROVED BY YOU -- BAD
CONDITION.
BRING SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL TO THE AREA.
THIS PORTION IS NOT THE MOST DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.
CONSIDER APPROVING THIS REQUEST.
5:33:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 3?
MOTION TO CLOSE.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
5:33:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FILE REZ-25-23, AN ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1905 WEST SLIGH
AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RO-1, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
AND WITH THE REVISION SHEET.
5:33:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.

ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:34:02PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025, AT
10 A.M., AT OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:34:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
SOMEBODY LEFT A PAIR OF GLASSES AND THESE FOLDERS DOWN
STAIRS.
DO THEY BELONG TO ANYBODY?
ITEM NUMBER 4.
YES, MA'AM.
5:34:38PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 IS REZ-25-25, REQUEST TO REZONE 808
NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2402 WEST STATE STREET FROM PD, FOR
PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, TO PD FOR MEDICAL AND BUSINESS
PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE.
WE'LL START WITH AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED HERE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE CORNER OF NORTH ARMENIA AND WEST
STATE STREET.
HERE IS WEST STATE STREET AND NORTH ARMENIA.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE SUBJECT
SITE IS PREDOMINANTLY COMPOSED OF DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL HOMES WITH SOME OFFICE USES.
THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST AND NORTH IS ZONED RM 16, WHICH YOU
CAN SEE HERE.
ALSO TO THE NORTH IS A PD APPROVED IN 1998 FOR OFFICE USE.
AND THAT'S RIGHT HERE, JUST NORTH OF THE SITE, THE OTHER PD.
TO THE EAST ACROSS NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IS A PD APPROVED IN
2016 FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, AND THAT'S THIS ONE
RIGHT HERE.
AND TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED RO FOR RESIDENTIAL OFFICE FOR
RESIDENTIAL OFFICE USES.
THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE SITE THERE.
HERE IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IDENTIFYING
ONE NEW BUILDING ON-SITE, WHICH IS OUTLINED HERE.
FOR MEDICAL AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL USES.
THE CURRENT PD ON THE SITE IS APPROVED FOR RELIGIOUS
ASSEMBLY USES.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE
CONTAINING 5400 SQUARE FEET WITH PROPOSED SURFACE PARKING
LOCATED TO THE SOUTH AND WEST WITH A PORTION UNDERNEATH THE
BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE THAT HATCHED AREA HERE, THAT PARKING IS
UNDERNEATH THERE.

ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROPOSED ON WEST STATE STREET, WHICH
WOULD BE THROUGH HERE.
THE SITE IS SURROUNDED WITH A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG THE
NORTH AND A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK TO THE EAST ALONG NORTH
ARMENIA AVENUE.
PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS LOCATED FROM THE BUILDING ENTRANCE
FACING NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND THERE ARE TWO PROPOSED
BICYCLE RACKS ON THE GROUND FLOOR NEAR THE ENTRANCE.
THERE IS THE ENTRANCE AND THE BICYCLE RACKS ARE RIGHT IN
THIS AREA.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT AND
MUST COMPLY WITH STANDARDS AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING UNLESS
WAIVED HEREIN.
NEXT I'LL SHOW THE ELEVATIONS.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EAST ELEVATION.
THE NORTH ELEVATION.
THE WEST ELEVATION, AND THEN HERE TO THE SOUTH.
I'LL SHOW SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE HERE IS A PHOTO OF THE
SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THIS ONE IS
LOOKING ACROSS ARMENIA.
THIS IS EAST ACROSS NORTH ARMENIA, AND THAT'S THE NEWLY
DEVELOPED OR NEWER DEVELOPED PD.
THIS IS LOOKING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER EAST THERE.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ACROSS WEST STATE STREET.

THERE IS THAT OFFICE.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH DOWN NORTH ARMENIA AND THIS IS THE
ADJACENT PROPERTY HERE.
THIS IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON WEST STATE STREET
DIRECTLY BEHIND THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING WEST DOWN WEST STATE STREET.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DUE TO THE FINDINGS FROM
TRANSPORTATION RELATED TO THE PARKING WAIVER REQUESTED.
THERE ARE THREE WAIVERS AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE APPLICATION, THE MODIFICATIONS
TO THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED REVISED REVISION
SHEET, WHICH I WILL PROVIDE TO YOU MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
FOR THE RECORD, THE MODIFICATIONS WILL NOT RESOLVE
TRANSPORTATION FINDINGS OF INCONSISTENCY.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY IF YOU HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
5:39:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, MA'AM.
5:39:24PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
BEFORE I BEGIN, WE HAVE A REVISED STAFF REPORT THAT WE NEED
TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD.
THE F.A.R. WAS INCORRECT ON OUR ANALYSIS PART.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT, THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE AND THE ARMORY
GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD, ALSO IN EVACUATION ZONE D.
THE SUBJECT SITE HERE OUTLINED IN PURPLE IS REPRESENTED WITH
THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION, WHICH IS TO THE NORTH,
SOUTH, AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
TO THE EAST, THE RED IS THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35
DESIGNATION.
FURTHER SOUTH, THE RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE IS A PARK, THE
VILA BROTHERS PARK.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE STAFF
MEETS THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN AS THE SITE IS ALONG AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED 0.44 F.A.R. IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM
F.A.R. ALLOWED IN THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION.
THE DESIGN FOLLOWS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GUIDANCE TO THE
DESIGN FOR CREATING PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT AS THE
BUILDING IS ORIENTED TOWARD NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE SITE IS
ADEQUATELY BUFFERED FROM THE RESIDENTIAL USES AND THE
REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
AREA.
OVERALL, THE PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20
DESIGNATION AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE

ANY QUESTIONS.
5:40:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.
APPLICANT?
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:41:05PM >> JUDAH RUBIN.
AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT.
FIRST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THIS
PROCESS THUS FAR.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SHARE.
I THINK THIS WAS A FORMER RELIGIOUS USE SITE.
MUCH DENSER APPLICATION PRIOR.
GONE FROM PD TO PD.
WE HAVE MET WITH THE ARMORY GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION.
BOTH HAD INITIAL APPLICATION AND SHARED OUR REVISIONS,
ALBEIT FAIRLY MINOR TO THEM MORE RECENTLY AS WE'VE GONE
THROUGH THE DRC PROCESS.
I THINK WE COMPLY WITH EVERYTHING THAT ARMORY GARDENS HAD AS
CONCERNS.
THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE MANY.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE PROPOSED USE.
I THINK THEY FIND IT MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
RELATIVE TO THE PRIOR USE.
IT'S CERTAINLY A LOT SHORTER.

PRIOR USE WAS ALMOST 72 FEET TALL AND 20% LARGER WITH LESS
PARKING.
I'LL JUST TALK TO THE PARKING WAIVER, WHICH I THINK IS THE
BIGGEST CONSIDERATION FOR THIS EVENING.
WE'RE PREPARED TO MEET THE REVISED REVISION CONDITIONS FROM
STAFF, IF I SAID THAT RIGHT.
IN BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND READINGS REGARDING THE
COMMENTS FROM THE DRC, AND AS IT RELATES TO PARKING, JUST
SETTLE ON THIS.
WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.
IT IS A SINGLE MAN ENT PRACTICE, BY DEFINITION A FAIRLY LOW
VOLUME MEDICAL PRACTICE AS MEDICAL PRACTICES GO.
THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE THE NEED OR DEMAND FOR THE 6 PER
THOUSAND PARKING THAT'S IN THE CODE.
THEY WILL BE SUFFICIENTLY SATISFIED WITH THE FIVE PER
THOUSAND.
IF YOU ELIMINATE -- THE OTHER THOUGHT IS IF YOU ELIMINATE
THE VERTICAL CIRCULATION REQUIRED TO CREATE THIS USE, YOU
ACTUALLY REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PROPERTY BY TAKING
OUT LOBBIES AND VERTICAL CIRCULATION AND GET TO A LITTLE
LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS THE USABLE SQUARE
FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING.
THAT GETS YOUR PER SQUARE FOOT OR PER BUILDING SQUARE FOOT
RATIO TO OVER FIVE PER THOUSAND.
AS YOU SAW IN THE PICTURES AND AS I'VE SEEN EVERY TIME I

DRIVE UP AND DOWN THE SECTION OF ARMENIA WITH FREQUENCY,
NONE OF THE ON-STREET PARKING IS USED, LARGELY BECAUSE THE
PROPERTY ISN'T USED.
SPACE FOR AT LEAST FIVE OTHER PARKING STALLS ALONG ARMENIA
THAT TEND TO REMAIN VACANT WHICH IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT UNTIL
A PROPERTY IS PUT INTO USE.
WE ANTICIPATE LOOKING FORWARD TO USING THE ON STREET
PARKING.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS INTENDED FOR, TO BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
I'LL CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE THEM.
5:43:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:43:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK IT'S KIND OF FUNNY THAT YOU ARE ON
THE DEFENSIVE, BECAUSE THE TRANSPORTATION NOTE ON PARKING,
THIS COUNCIL I DON'T THINK WILL BE THAT CONCERNED ABOUT THE
DE MINIMIS AMOUNT OF LESS PARKING ESPECIALLY SINCE IT IS ON
A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.
ONE THING -- MY QUESTION WOULD BE, ARMENIA IS SUCH A
FORWARD-FACING POSITION.
I GO AGREE.
I THINK THIS IS A MUCH BETTER USE OF THE PROPERTY THAN HAD
PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED.
I THINK IT IS A BETTER ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S AN AMENITY THAT PEOPLE USE FOR MEDICAL OFFICES.
IF YOU WERE ABLE TO ELIMINATE MORE PARKING, COULD YOU HAVE

MORE OF A FORWARD FACING BUILDING ON THE FRONT FACING
ARMENIA TO BE ABLE TO SHADOW THE GARAGE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A
GARAGE RIGHT ON ARMENIA?
5:44:20PM >> THE NICE THING ABOUT IT, I SAY IT IS A NICE THING, WE
HAVE AT LEAST PUT THE BUILDING FRONTAGE ON ARMENIA AS
SUGGESTED OR REQUIRED BY THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY THAT
PROMOTES FRONTAGE BUILDINGS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE PUT BUILDING OVER PARKING AND WE HAVE
PROPOSED FENCING, WHICH IF WE PLANTED LANDSCAPING OR
CREEPING VINES IT WOULD BE FENCING ULTIMATELY GREEN.
I THINK THAT IS A DIRECTION WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAD HERE.
THAT WILL HELP OBSCURE THE VISIBILITY OF PARKING UNDER THE
STRUCTURE.
5:44:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST LOOK AT THAT, I LOVE YOUR FIRM AND
QUALITY OF PROJECTS THAT YOU BRING TO COUNCIL.
USUALLY REALLY, REALLY GREAT.
AGAIN, ARMENIA IS SUCH A GREAT STREET.
OBVIOUSLY, THE REQUEST OF THE CITY IS TO HAVE THAT
FORWARD-FACING BUILDING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
NEGOTIATING FROM THE DAIS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION OF THE
BUILDING.
STAFF GIVE ME A DIRTY LOOK BY SAYING THIS STUFF.
ELIMINATE THE SPOTS UP FRONT AND EXPAND YOUR LOBBY OR DO
SOMETHING MORE FORWARD FACING, THE LOOK IS MORE INVITING TO

ARMENIA AND MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON THE
STREET, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK PARKING IS THE PROBLEM HERE.
FOR A SINGLE MEDICAL OFFICE, AND ON THIS PARTICULAR
LOCATION, I THINK YOU'RE GOOD.
5:45:39PM >> THE OTHER THING WE'RE IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS.
I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE ON THEIR FACE, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH STAFF, WHICH I THINK SPEAKS TO SOME OF THOSE
CONCERNS.
5:45:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LOVE YOUR ALL'S PRODUCT USUALLY.
I THINK YOU DO A GOOD JOB.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:45:58PM >> THANK YOU.
5:45:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
5:46:02PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
5:46:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
FOUR.
5:46:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE FILE REZ-25-25, AN ORDINANCE BEING

PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 808 NORTH
ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2402 WEST STATE STREET IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL
OFFICE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
AND WITH THE REVISION SHEET.
5:46:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:46:51PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025, AT
10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:47:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 5.
YES, SIR.
5:47:09PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 5 IS REZ 25-29, A REQUEST TO REZONE 204, 258
SOUTH PLANT AVENUE, 205, 207, 209 AND 211 WEST PLATT STREET
FROM OFFICE PROFESSIONAL AND COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR SCHOOL.

START WITH AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED ON SOUTH PLANT AVENUE, SOUTH
PARKER AND WEST PLATT STREET.
JUST TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE YOU HAVE A PD, THAT IS
THE PUBLIX ON BAYSHORE THAT I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.
TO THE SOUTH, ANOTHER PD THAT IS FOR MULTIFAMILY.
THEN TO THE WEST, SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE YOU HAVE
COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING AND THEN TO THE WEST YOU HAVE MORE
COMMERCIAL USES AND COMMERCIAL ZONING ALONG WEST PLATT
STREET.
DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH, YOU HAVE THE EXPRESSWAY AND ABOUT A
THOUSAND FEET TO THE WEST YOU HAVE THE CENTRAL BUSINESS
DISTRICT, THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
AS YOU MOVE SOUTH, YOU HAVE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, DAVIS
ISLANDS, AND THEN AS YOU MOVE FARTHER NORTH, YOU HAVE THE
GRAND CENTRAL AREA AND THEN THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NEW BUILDING, PARKING GARAGE
AND SPORTS FIELD.
THE EXISTING GYM IS PROPOSED TO BE RETAINED.
TOTAL OF 104,278 SQUARE FEET IS PROPOSED AND 94,821 SQUARE
FEET OF THAT WILL BE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THE SCHOOL WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 480 STUDENTS.
THE NEW SCHOOL BUILDING IS PROPOSED HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE
OF THE PROPERTY BOUND BY PLANT AVENUE AND PLATT STREET.

THE ENTRANCE TO THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE HERE INTERNALLY.
ALSO BE AN ENTRANCE HERE AND HERE.
THE MAXIMUM PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE NEW SCHOOL WILL
BE THREE STORIES OR 70 FEET.
THEN WHEN YOU MOVE TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE, YOU HAVE
THE PLAY FIELD, THE EXISTING GYMNASIUM AND THEN THE PROPOSED
PARKING GARAGE.
EXISTING GYMNASIUM IS 31 FEET.
PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE IS GOING TO BE 80 FEET OR FIVE
STORIES.
ACCESS TO THE PARKING GARAGE IS PROPOSED TO COME FROM HERE
ON SOUTH PARKER STREET.
THE PARKING GARAGE IS PROPOSED TO HAVE 111 PARKING SPACES
AND 55 SPARRING SPACES OR REQUIRED.
NOW TO TOUCH ON VEHICULAR CIRCULATION ON THE SITE WHEN IT
COMES TO PICK UP AND DROP-OFF ALONG THE NORTH SIDE HERE IS
WHERE QUEUING WILL TAKE PLACE.
AND THEN LOADING AND UNLOADING FOR STUDENTS WILL TAKE PLACE
INTERNALLY TO THE SITE RIGHT HERE.
THEN LASTLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FIVE TO EIGHT FOOT
SIDEWALKS ALL AROUND THE SITE.
AND THEN ALSO BE INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT
THE SITE.
AND THERE'S ALSO AN OUTDOOR PAVILION PROPOSED AS PART OF THE
SPORTS FIELD.

GO THROUGH SOME ELEVATIONS REAL QUICK.
HERE IS THE INTERSECTION OF PLATT AND PLANT.
THIS IS PLATT AND SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
SOUTH TOWARDS PLATT STREET.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
THIS IS WHERE THE DROP-OFF AND PICKUP WOULD HAPPEN.
THIS IS YOUR VIEW FROM ALONG PLATT STREET.
AND THEN HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED PARKING
GARAGE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE BACK UP AGAINST WHERE THE SELMON
EXPRESSWAY IS AT THE END OF SOUTH PARKER, AND THEN THIS IS
THE EXISTING GYMNASIUM THAT WILL BE RETAINED ON-SITE.
I'LL RUN THROUGH SOME PICTURES NOW.
THE SITE IS QUITE BIG.
KIND OF A LOT OF PICTURES BUT TRY TO KEEP IT AT A MINIMUM.
THIS IS AT PARKER STREET AND THE ALLEY.
THIS IS THE PUBLIX HERE AND THIS IS THE ALLEY.
THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE
SITE AND WHERE THE QUEUING WILL BE TAKING PLACE UP HERE AND
THE DROP-OFF HAPPENING DOWN THAT WAY.
THIS IS MOVING ON DOWN THE ALLEY.
SUBJECT SITE HERE ON EITHER SIDE.
THIS IS ZUDAR'S -- USED TO BE, IT IS NOT PART OF THE
REQUEST.
IT IS THE PARCEL RIGHT NEXT TO THEM.

THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH INTERNALLY TO THE SITE.
THIS IS THE VACANT PARKING LOT SOUTH OF THE SCHOOL RIGHT
NOW.
PLATT STREET HERE AND THAT MULTIFAMILY AND THE PD TO THE
SOUTH.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH INTERNALLY OR NORTHEAST.
YOU HAVE THE EXISTING SCHOOL BUILDING HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE GYMNASIUM OVER THERE IN THE DISTANCE.
LOOKING NORTHEAST STILL GIVES YOU A BETTER VIEW OF THE
EXISTING SCHOOL HERE.
GYMNASIUM.
BACK OVER HERE IS WHERE THE NEW PARKING GARAGE WILL GO.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SOUTH BOUNDARY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
ABOUT HERE IS WHERE THE PLAY FIELD WILL GO AND THE EXISTING
SCHOOL.
THIS IS WHERE THE NEW SCHOOL WILL BE HERE AT THIS PARKING
LOT.
HERE IS A BETTER VIEW OF THE END OF THE SITE WHERE THE
SPORTS FIELD WILL GO.
NOW WE WORKED OUR WAY TO WHERE CARDY AND PLANT STREET IS.
SELMON EXPRESSWAY HERE.
CARDY.
THE ENTRANCE TO THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
THIS IS LOOKING DOWN WHERE THE QUEUING, YOU CAN SEE THE
EXISTING QUEUING TAKES PLACE ON CARDY SO IT WILL CONTINUE TO

TAKE PLACE HERE.
AND THIS IS LOOKING -- NOW WE MOVED ALL THE WAY DOWN CARDY
AND BACK AT PARKER STREET NOW WHERE YOU GET BACK TO THE
PUBLIX.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON PARKER TOWARD THE MULTIFAMILY.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING DOWN INTO WHERE THE PUBLIX IS.
THIS IS WHERE CARDY STREET DUMPS INTO THE LOADING AREA FOR
THE PUBLIX.
THIS IS PARKER STREET.
CARDY WOULD BE BACK UP HERE.
VIEW, SOUTH END OF PARKER STREET WHERE IT MEETS PLATT.
WHERE ZUDAR'S USED TO BE.
WEST ON PLATT STREET.
THIS IS WHERE THE NEW SCHOOL WILL BE.
LOOKING EAST ON PLATT TOWARD DOWNTOWN.
LOOKING SOUTH.
LOOKING SOUTH TOWARDS BAYSHORE FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.
NOW WE'RE OVER ON PLANT AVENUE, LOOKING FROM THE SUBJECT
SITE TOWARDS PLANT AVENUE.
AGAIN, WHERE THE NEW SCHOOL WILL BE.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING NORTH ON PLANT BACK TOWARDS CARDY.
AND WE MADE BASICALLY A BIG LOOP BACK AROUND THE SITE.
PUT THE SITE PLAN BACK UP.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT.

SEE THE FINDINGS FROM NATURAL RESOURCES.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION'S ANALYSIS DID DETERMINE THAT THE
USE IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION AND THE SITE -- AS THE SITE
IS LOCATED IN AN URBAN AREA WITH A MIXTURE OF USES WITHIN
CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
DENSE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, EXPANDED SCHOOL WILL SERVE THE
SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, NOTWITHSTANDING STAFF'S FINDING OF
INCONSISTENCY, SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO
APPROVE THE WAIVERS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REPORT AND THE
APPLICATION, MODIFICATIONS ARE SHOWN ON THE REVISION SHEET
MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
THESE REVISIONS WILL NOT SOLVE STAFF'S ISSUES OF FINDINGS OF
INCONSISTENCY.
UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY.
5:55:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
5:55:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE THREE STORY OR 31-FOOT LIMIT IS THAT A
SELF-IMPOSED LIMIT OF THE APPLICANT OR A CITY REQUIREMENT?
5:55:13PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
THE APPLICANT IS ABLE TO SET THEIR OWN
HEIGHT IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REQUEST.
5:55:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WAS JUST WHISPERING TO MARTY, JUST FOR
DISCLOSURE, ALL THREE OF MY KIDS WENT TO SCHOOL HERE, SO I
KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE.
THE LAST ONE FINISHED TWO YEARS AGO, MORE THAN TWO YEARS
AGO, THAT'S NOT A CONFLICT, CORRECT?

I DON'T HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INTEREST OR ANYTHING.
JUST SO IF ANYBODY COMES BACK AND SAYS, OH, YOUR KIDS WENT
THERE, I THINK -- I'M SURE I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.
5:55:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
5:55:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I ATTENDED ST. JOHN'S GREEK ORTHODOX,
WHAT USED TO BE.
I'M PRETTY CLEAR.
[ LAUGHTER ]
5:55:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DIDN'T ATTEND THE SCHOOL.
5:55:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I NEVER WENT TO SCHOOL.
[ LAUGHTER ]
5:55:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOME THINGS ARE SELF-EVIDENT.
5:56:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP.
5:56:12PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SITE IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
THE HYDE PARK SPANISHTOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION
NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVACUATION ZONE B.
THE SUBJECT SITE, AGAIN, HERE, OUTLINED IN PURPLE,
REPRESENTED WITH THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION,
WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USES.
A SCHOOL IS AN ALLOWED USE.
TO THE WEST IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
TO THE NORTH AND EAST AND PARTIALLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE

SUBJECT SITE IS THE RMU 100 DESIGNATION.
AND THIS DARK BROWN IS THE RESIDENTIAL 50.
THE PROPOSED 0.77 F.A.R. IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE
CONSIDERED WITHIN THE CMU 35 DESIGNATION.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THE PROPOSED PD
MEETS THE INTENT OF THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR POLICIES BY
ORIENTING THE PROPOSED BUILDING TO WEST PLATT STREET AND
PROVIDING A FIVE-FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG SOUTH PARKER STREET.
ADDITIONALLY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE PARKING
GARAGE IS ARCHITECTURALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
AREA.
OVERALL, THE PROPOSED PD WOULD ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT IS
COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
5:57:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
APPLICANT.
5:57:34PM >> ASHLEY ANDERSON, INVISION ADVISORS, 1501 WEST CLEVELAND
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE -- ELMO UP, PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE SOME RENDERINGS SHOWING THE VERY BEAUTIFUL NEW
SCHOOL CAMPUS WE'RE PROPOSING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.

WE HAVE A FULL PROJECT TEAM HERE ON BEHALF OF SAINT JOHNS AS
WELL AS MANY SAINT JOHNS SUPPORTERS, INVISION ADVISORS, OUR
ATTORNEYS AT PHELPS, OUR ARCHITECT DAVE PETERSON WITH COOPER
JOHNSON SMITH.
RICKY PETERIKA, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WITH DARK MOSS.
SHOULD WE GO SHORT ON OUR PRESENTATION, WE'D LOVE TO USE THE
TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, STAFF, FOR WORKING WITH US.
WE SEE THIS AS A CIVIC PORTION.
NOT ONLY IS IT A GATEWAY OF TAMPA'S DOWNTOWN BUT ALSO
ADJACENT TO MANY BUILDINGS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
WE SEE THIS AS A TRANSFORMATIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR A SITE
THAT'S LONG LANGUISHING, ESPECIALLY SURFACE PARKING.
CORNER OF PLATT STREET FOR OVER 20 YEARS HAS BEEN SURFACE
PARKING WITH THE CAMPUS THAT IS FALLING OUT OF USEFULNESS
LIFE.
WE COLLABORATED WITH THE CITY FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS ON
THIS SITE PLAN.
I WANT TO USE THIS PHOTO TO SHOW WHAT COULD BE THE FUTURE
AND WHAT IS THE CURRENT CONDITION AS OF THIS MORNING.
THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF PLATT STREET.
5:58:56PM >> YOU WERE UP EARLY.
5:58:58PM >> I WAS.
THE SUN IS UP KIND OF HIGH, ACTUALLY.
THIS IS LIKE 9.

THIS IS A LITTLE BETTER VIEW OF THAT.
YOU'RE SEEING THE ACTIVATED STREET WALL AND GOOD URBAN
DESIGN OF BOTH PLATT AND PLANT STREET.
SAME THING, TRANSFORMATIONAL OPPORTUNITY BUT ON THE OTHER
END OF THE SITE PLAN.
THIS IS FACING AGAINST THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY.
CURRENT CONDITION, AGING SCHOOL CAMPUS AS WELL AS SOME MODGE
PODGE STUFF HAPPENING THERE AT CARDY STREET BACKING UP TO
THE SELMON AND THE NEW PLAN WHICH WILL ALSO COMINGLE THE
OTHER USES THE SCHOOL DESPERATELY NEEDS, WHICH IS PARKING
THAT ISN'T SURFACE PARKING AND THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN
PLAY FIELD AT THE MOMENT.
HERE IS A BETTER VIEW FOR YOU TO TAKE TIME TO LOOK AT.
ALSO THIS PICTURE EXEMPLIFIES GATEWAY OF TAMPA'S DOWNTOWN.
WE SEE THIS AS A GOOD URBAN DESIGN PROJECT AT A GATEWAY
THAT'S KEY.
CIVIC ORIENTED DESIGN BUILDING.
IT HAS REDUCED OR ELIMINATED SURFACE PARKING AND PUT INTO
STRUCTURED PARKING.
WE HAVE DEDICATED BIKE PARKING AND MORE ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN
WALKWAYS, ENHANCED SIDEWALKS AT FIVE TO EIGHT FEET AND
SUPPORTS THAT KIND OF COHESIVE ENTRANCE ON PLATT STREET
CURRENTLY MISSING AS YOU'RE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE
CORE.
THESE ARE THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE PROJECT FEATURES THAT

THE SCHOOL DESPERATELY NEEDS.
90,000 SQUARE FOOT OF NEW BUILDING.
S.T.E.M. LABS THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE.
CAFETERIA SPACES, AND THE STRUCTURED PARKING ELIMINATING
THAT UGLY SURFACE PARKING AND SECURE PLAYGROUNDS AND
ATHLETIC FIELD WHICH CURRENTLY THE SITE IS NOT OFFERING THE
RIGHT LEVEL OF SECURITY FOR FAMILIES AND KIDS.
DESIGN IS HISTORICALLY INSPIRED, WHICH I HOPE RESONATES FOR
SOME OF YOU ON COUNCIL.
IT IS ALSO INDICATIVE OF THE ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES AND THE
PLETHORA OF BUILDINGS OF SIMILAR STATURE AT UT.
THANK YOU, SAM FOR WALKING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN.
IT IS HERE IF YOU NEED IT.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR DESIGN TEAM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IT.
6:01:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
6:01:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SURE THIS IS GOING TO GET ANSWERED,
ONE THING THAT PIQUED MY INTEREST.
I ALMOST WISH YOU WOULD HAVE GONE FOUR STORIES, BLENDED IN
BETTER.
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO -- YOU MENTIONED HOLY NAMES AND THE
TRAFFIC PROBLEMS WE HAVE.
WHOEVER IS GOING TO PRESENT THE DROP-OFF AND HOW IT CAN BE
ACCOMMODATED IN THIS LOOP, HOW MANY CARS YOU ACCOMMODATE
VERSUS THE EXPANSION OF THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE NEW

SCHOOL.
AGAIN, THAT EGRESS TO THE CROSSTOWN AND ONE-WAY STREETS, IT
COULD POTENTIALLY BE A NIGHTMARE IF NOT DONE WELL.
6:01:46PM >> I HAVE A SHORT ANSWER AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO
THE DESIGN TEAM.
NOW THE CIRCULATION HERE IS INTERNAL.
IT ACTUALLY, A, WE SUBMITTED AN APPROVED TRAFFIC STUDY BY
TRANSPORTATION.
CONSISTENT RULING FROM TRANSPORTATION BUT ACTUALLY IT'S
GOING TO KEEP EVERYTHING MORE INSULAR AND TAKE MORE OF THE
HEAT OFF PLATT STREET.
6:02:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PEOPLE ARE FEEDING IN AND FEEDING OUT AND
END UP WITH THE PERFECT STORM OF NOT BEING ABLE TO GET IN OR
OUT BECAUSE OF THE DROP-OFF.
HOW MANY CARS CAN YOU ACCOMMODATE INTERNALLY AND CREATE TWO
LANES ON CARDY SINCE IT IS A ONE-WAY?
6:02:26PM >> THERE ARE TWO LANES THERE.
6:02:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU USE THAT FOR YOUR PURPOSES?
6:02:32PM >> I'LL DEFER TO THE DESIGN TEAM ON THAT.
WE DO HAVE PUBLIX'S APPROVAL AS WELL FOR THIS BECAUSE THAT'S
PART OF THEIR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR FOR THEIR TRUCKS.
BOTH THE STAFF, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITH THE EXPRESSWAY
AUTHORITY, PUBLIX, AND THE SCHOOL ALL FOUND IT CONSISTENT
WITH THAT.
6:02:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO HOLY NAME TRAFFIC JAMS.

6:02:53PM >> CORRECT.
IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT SITE.
THIS IS A MORE CONNECTED SITE THAN BAYSHORE IS.
I THINK WHAT'S KEY HERE, THERE IS GOING TO BE A STAGGERING
OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE TRAFFIC PLAN SHOWS A STAGGERING
OF PICKUP AND DROP-OFF TIMES.
THIS IS A LOWER AND MIDDLE SCHOOL CAMPUS FOR
INTERGENERATIONAL LEARNING.
PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THEY DON'T START AT THE SAME TIME EITHER.
THERE IS A LOGISTICS PART OF IT THAT THE START AND STOP
TIMES FOR ALL STUDENTS WILL BE STAGGERED DEPENDING ON WHERE
THEY ARE IN THE EDUCATION JOURNEY, JUST LIKE A PUBLIC
SCHOOL.
MIDDLE SCHOOLERS START A DIFFERENT TIME THAN THE LITTLE
ONES.
6:03:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD TO KNOW IT IS STAGGERED.
6:03:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PRESENT EVIDENCE, SO I
WON'T STATE ANY FACTS.
WHEN THE TRANSPORTATION PERSON COMES UP, IF THEY COULD
DESCRIBE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MacDILL, THE NUMBER OF
LANES ON MacDILL VERSUS THE NUMBER OF LANES ON PLATT
STREET AND THE ROADWAYS AROUND THAT.
6:03:44PM >> OKAY.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE HERE FOR A REZONING.
THIS IS A SCHOOL THAT'S OPERATING HERE, TO YOUR POINT.

SO WHY WE NEED A REZONING IS WE HAVE MULTI-FOLIOS INCLUDING
THAT SURFACE PARKING AT THE CORNER THAT HAVE NOW BEEN
COALESCED INTO ONE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE FOR A REZONING.
OTHER THAN THAT, THE USE IS THE EXACT SAME AS THE EXISTING
SITE.
IT'S JUST BETTER AND HAS MORE SAFETY FOR THE STUDENTS.
WE DO HAVE -- THAT DOES CAUSE US TO HAVE WAIVERS.
THEY WERE PRESENTED.
THEY ARE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW WE'RE REQUESTING THOSE.
ONE OR TWO MORE RENDERINGS FOR YOUR VIEW.
THIS IS ON PLATT STREET.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST, SHOWING SOME OF THAT CIRCULATION THAT
WILL TAKE A LITTLE HEAT OFF OF PLATT STREET ITSELF, BECAUSE
THAT ALLEYWAY IS NOW ACTIVATED IN THAT REGARD.
AGAIN, REMEMBER, THERE ARE THE STAGGERED TIMES.
NO, THERE WILL BE NO POOL.
OUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN
SPEAKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WORKING WITH STAFF OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
DIRECT OUTREACH WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS INCLUDING PUBLIX
AND THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE LAST MONTH TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.

NO CONCERNS RAISED BY THE PUBLIC THAT ATTENDED.
WE DO THINK THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD CONSISTENT DESIGN AND
BECAUSE THE CAMPUS IS AN EXISTING CAMPUS AND WE'LL BE ABLE
TO PHASE CONSTRUCTION TO LIMIT IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DID RECEIVE 78 LETTERS FOR THE RECORD AND A LOT OF
DRAWINGS FROM EXCITED SAINT JOHNS STUDENTS.
THEY ARE AMAZING.
IF YOU HAVE TIME TO READ THEM, PLEASE DO.
HOVER BOARDS, PUPPY WALLS, I DON'T KNOW.
THERE WAS A WHOLE THING.
THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY MEETING AS YOU CAN SEE.
WE HAVE THOSE LETTERS FOR THE RECORD IF YOU'D LIKE.
6:05:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
-- SENDING A PUPPY IN HERE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
6:05:32PM >> I BROUGHT KIDS.
I BROUGHT A LOT OF -- OUR CLOSING REQUEST IS YOU PLEASE
SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND PLEASE SUPPORT THIS.
THIS TEAM OF FAMILIES HAS BEEN WANTING THIS PROJECT FOREVER.
THEIR CAMPUS IS NOT IN ITS USEFUL LIFE ANYMORE.
THEY NEED SOMETHING GOOD AND BIG FOR THEIR GROWING MINDS.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE DRAWINGS AND SOME OF THE LETTERS
ADDRESSED DIRECTLY TO YOU.
SOPHIA ASKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT, SO DOES KARINA.
AND I'M DONE.
6:06:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHAMELESS.

SHAMELESS.
6:06:08PM >> INTRODUCE FOR A SHORT PRESENTATION, THE HEAD OF SCHOOL
FROM SAINT JOHNS.
HUGH JEBSON.
6:06:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE WE CONTINUE, I ASKED EVERYBODY TO
STAND UP AND BE SWORN IN.
IF YOU WALKED IN AFTER THE FACT AND GOING TO SPEAK AND WERE
NOT SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THIS IS ONLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPEAKING AND WERE NOT
SWORN IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
6:06:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
6:06:39PM >> GOOD EVENING.
HUGH JEBSON.
I SERVE AS SAINT JOHNS HEAD OF SCHOOL.
I STAND HERE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO REPRESENT THOUSANDS
OF CHILDREN, EDUCATORS AND FAMILIES.
THOSE CURRENTLY PART OF THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY AND FUTURE
GENERATIONS WHO WITH HOPEFULLY YOUR SUPPORT WILL BENEFIT
FROM THIS TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT.
THIS MASTER PLAN IS A FUNDAMENTAL GAME CHANGER.
EDUCATIONALLY IT BRINGS TO LIFE A VISION FOR CHILDREN TO
IDENTIFY AND PURSUE UNPRECEDENTED LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES AND
PASSIONS.
IT BRINGS STUDENTS AND TEACHERS TOGETHER, THEREBY

STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY.
IT ELEVATES OUR ABILITY TO SUPPORT CHILDREN'S SOCIAL,
EMOTIONAL, ACADEMIC, AND SPIRITUAL WELL-BEING WITH THE
CREATION OF A DESIGNATED STUDENT SUPPORT CENTER AND SO MUCH
MORE.
WHEN ASKED WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE MOST TO HAVE IN THEIR NEW
SCHOOL, THE CHILDREN HAVE NO LESS IMPORTANT PRIORITIES --
BETTER FOOD, BETTER PLACES TO HANG OUT WITH THEIR FRIENDS,
AND ADEQUATE OUTDOOR SPACE.
SPECIFICALLY A FIELD FOR P.E. CLASSES AND RECESS, NEITHER OF
WHICH THEY CURRENTLY ENJOY.
FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL'S 70-YEAR HISTORY, OUR
ATHLETIC TEAMS MUST TRAVEL AND PLAY AWAY ON SOMEONE ELSE'S
HOME FIELD.
SOMETHING THAT MIGHT SEEM RELATIVELY MINOR AS PLAYING ON A
HOME FIELD IS ACTUALLY A BIG DEAL TO A MIDDLE SCHOOLER'S
DEVELOPING SENSE OF IDENTITY, CONFIDENCE, BELONGING AND
PRIDE.
MY STANDPOINT AS LEADER OF THE SCHOOL, THERE IS NO BIGGER
DEAL THAN THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN AT THE SCHOOL AS WELL
AS THE EMPLOYEES WHO GIVE SO MUCH OF THEMSELVES TO SUPPORT
THOSE CHILDREN.
THIS MASTER PLAN ADDRESSES SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES THAT WE
FACE IN PROVIDING THE SAFEST POSSIBLE ENVIRONMENT FOR
CHILDREN AND TEACHERS.

ONE GLARING EXAMPLE IS THE CURRENT LOCATION OF OUR MIDDLE
SCHOOL P.E. CLASSES.
CHILDREN MUST CROSS A VERY BUSY THREE-LANE STREET SO THEY
CAN ACCESS THE DIRT AND CONCRETE PROPERTY DIRECTLY UNDER THE
CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY WHERE THEY DO P.E. AND PLAY.
WE'RE GRATEFUL TO THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY FOR THEIR
PARTNERSHIP, BUT THIS ARRANGEMENT IS SIMPLY NOT APPROPRIATE
FOR CHILDREN.
AT SOME POINT, THIS SPACE WILL NO LONGER BE AVAILABLE,
RESULTING IN THE ALMOST TOTAL ABSENCE OF ANY OUTDOOR SPACE
FOR CHILDREN.
IN ADDITION TO NOT MEETING CHILDREN'S EDUCATIONAL NEEDS,
THAT EXISTING LOCATION POSES RISKS TO THEIR SAFETY AND
WELL-BEING.
IT IS A POPULAR DESTINATION FOR MEMBERS OF THE UNHOUSED
COMMUNITY.
SEVERAL OCCASIONS CHILDREN AND TEACHERS HAVE REPORTED BEING
APPROACHED BY CLEARLY UNSTABLE INDIVIDUALS COMING ACROSS
DISCARDED HYPODERMIC NEEDLES AND EVEN AS HAPPENED, FINDING A
DISCARDED FIREARM.
SEVERAL EMPLOYEES INCLUDING MYSELF HAVE DIRECT INTERACTIONS
WITH UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING ENCOUNTERING THEM
SLEEPING INSIDE THE CAMPUS PERIMETER.
THE REASON I BELIEVE SO DEEPLY AND PASSIONATELY IN THIS
PROJECT IS BECAUSE IT MAKES POSSIBLE TWO KEY OBJECTIVES THAT

IN MY OPINION ARE OF UNIVERSAL INTEREST, NOT CONTROVERSIAL,
AND ARE FUNDAMENTALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE TAMPA CHILDREN
TO GROW AND LEARN AND TO DO SO IN THE SAFEST POSSIBLE URBAN
ENVIRONMENT.
IT IS FOR THIS REASON AND ON THEIR BEHALF THAT I ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
6:09:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE?
AS PART OF THE APPLICATION?
NO.
WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME UP.
I KNOW THE ROOM IS VERY CROWDED.
IF YOU COULD FORM A LINE ON THE WALL ON THE SIDE AND JUST
KIND OF KEEP IT IN ORDER.
SIR, YOU ARE THE FIRST SPEAKER.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:10:05PM >> MY NAME IS PETER PALERMO.
FRESHMAN AT JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL.
240 SOUTH PLATT AVENUE.
THE FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS THANK YOU ALL.
YOU ALL RECOGNIZED ME LAST MONTH BECOMING AN EAGLE SCOUT.
SOME OF YOU HAVE KNOWN ME SINCE BEFORE I WAS BORN.

MANY OF YOU HAVE KNOWN MY FAMILY SINCE BEFORE I WAS BORN.
SOME OF YOU HAVE KNOWN MY FAMILY WHEN MY PARENTS WERE BORN.
I'M THE SECOND GENERATION IN MY FAMILY TO ATTEND SAINT
JOHNS, MY DAD, AUNT, UNCLE, ALL ATTENDED BEFORE ME.
I ATTENDED SCHOOL ON ALL THREE CAMPUSES OF SAINT JOHNS AND I
KNOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE AT SAINT JOHNS IT NEEDS A NEW AND
BETTER HOME.
GOOD SCHOOLS ARE CROWN JEWELS OF THE CITY.
BUILDING SAINT JOHNS IS NOT ABOUT BUILDING A BETTER PLACE
FOR KIDS TO GROW BUT ALSO BUILDING A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR OUR
HOME TAMPA.
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING ME ON MY JOURNEY TO EAGLE SCOUT,
FOR BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF MY HOMETOWN AND GIVING SAINT
JOHNS CAMPUS A CHANCE TO BE A PART OF TAMPA'S FUTURE.
6:11:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME AGAIN?
6:11:09PM >> PALERMO.
6:11:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT WAS THE TOWN MY DAD WAS BORN IN
SICILY.
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:11:24PM >> LAUREN SMITH.
MY DAUGHTER AUBREY SMITH.

I AM HERE THIS EVENING TO EXPRESS MY PASSION AND
APPRECIATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE THE REZONING
APPLICATION THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
MY OLDEST CHILD HERE BEGAN KINDERGARTEN AT THE SCHOOL IN
2019.
TODAY I CURRENTLY HAVE THREE CHILDREN WHO ATTEND SJE, AND MY
HOPE IS THAT MY FOURTH CHILD WILL FOLLOW SUIT.
BEGINNING THIS YEAR, MY CHILDREN SPAN ALL THREE CAMPUSES.
ONE IN PRE-K AT THE PRIMARY CAMPUS ON ROME AVENUE, ANOTHER
IN SECOND GRADE AT THE LOWER SCHOOL CAMPUS ON SOUTH ORLEANS
AVENUE AND MY OLDEST AT THE CAMPUS IN THE AREA OF INTEREST.
ONCE MY CHILDREN GRADUATE FROM THEIR TIME THERE, WE'LL HAVE
A TOTAL OF ALMOST 18 CONSECUTIVE YEARS AT SAINT JOHNS.
THIS IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT DRIVING TO AND
FROM SCHOOLS, MORNING DROP-OFFS, AFTERNOON PICKUPS, TRIPS TO
DELIVER FORGOTTEN LUNCHES AND MUSIC PERFORMANCES AND CLASS
EVENTS.
BUT I WOULDN'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY, EXCEPT TO BE ON ONE
CAMPUS.
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEW CAMPUS BUILDING WILL BE AN
INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY AND WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON
THE SCHOOL AND OUR SOUTH TAMPA COMMUNITY.
UNIFYING SCHOOL CAMPUSES TOGETHER AS ONE WILL ONLY REINFORCE
THE REPUTATION OF EXCELLENCE THAT SAINT JOHNS IS SO PROUD TO
HAVE EARNED IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

SAINT JOHNS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CHAMPION FOR THE COMMUNITY IT
IS SURROUNDED BY, PARTICULARLY BY HAVING CAMPUSES NESTLED IN
NEIGHBORHOODS AND SITUATED CLOSE TO ACCESS POINTS TO
DOWNTOWN.
RESPECT FOR ITS SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A
PRIORITY.
THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW CAMPUS IS A GATEWAY TO FURTHER
DEVELOP OUR CHILDREN WHO ARE THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY IN
A HOLISTIC WAY.
THROUGH THE ADDITION OF THE FIELD SPACES THAT MAKE MY MOMMY
HEART MELT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THEM, WE CAN ENHANCE OUR
ATHLETICS.
MAYBE THE NEXT SUPER STAR SOCCER PLAYER WILL BE AN SJE ALUM.
WITH THE IMPROVEMENT OF FACILITIES FOR FINE ARTS AND
EXPERIENCE, WE CAN ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE OF OUR CREATIVE
STUDENTS AND PERHAPS THE NEXT SUPER STAR SINGER WILL ALSO BE
AN ALUM.
NO DOUBT IN OUR CURRENT SITUATION, EACH INDIVIDUAL CAMPUS
EMBODIES THE HEARTS OF THE STUDENTS THAT FILL IT AND WE
WOULD ALL BE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE APPROVAL FROM THE CITY TO
SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
I THINK I CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL THE PARENTS WHEN WE SAY
WE ALWAYS TELL OUR CHILDREN THE SKY IS THE LIMIT AND DON'T
LET ANYTHING STAND IN YOUR WAY.
TODAY WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP SO THEY CAN SPREAD THEIR

WINGS AND SOAR AS HIGH AS THEY CAN WITHOUT LIMITS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
6:13:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:14:03PM >> MY NAME IS EVIE FORD.
6:14:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
6:14:07PM >> MY NAME IS EVIE FORD.
I GO TO SAINT JOHNS EPISCOPAL.
I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE PRE-K AND I AM IN SECOND GRADE.
I REALLY LIKE MY SCHOOL.
6:14:32PM >> DO YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF A NEW CAMPUS?
6:14:34PM >> YES.
6:14:35PM >> WILL THERE BE MORE ROOM TO PLAY?
6:14:37PM >> YES.
6:14:38PM >> WOULD YOUR DAD BE HAPPY WITH A LARGER, MORE BEAUTIFUL,
SAFER SCHOOL?
6:14:41PM >> YES.
[ LAUGHTER ]
6:14:43PM >> BETTER FOR THE CITY AND BETTER FOR THE STUDENTS.
IT'S A WIN-WIN.
THANK YOU ALL.
[ APPLAUSE ]
6:14:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER.
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

6:14:59PM >> ROY COLINS.
6:15:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
6:15:03PM >> HI.
MY NAME IS ROY COLLINS.
246 WEST COUNTRY CLUB AVENUE.
SIXTH GRADER AT SAINT JOHNS AND EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND THE
CHALLENGES OF OUR CURRENT CAMPUSES.
FIRST DURING P.E. WE GO OUTSIDE EVERY OTHER DAY CHEAP FOR
CHOICE.
THE PROBLEM IS WE PLAY ON CONCRETE.
IF SOMEONE SLIPS THEY GET AN ATROCIOUS SCRAPE THAT LEAVE YOU
BLEEDING FOR A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME.
ALSO, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM TO GET TO OTHER CLASSES.
USUALLY EVERYONE GETS SHOVED AND MOST OF THE TIME PEOPLE
FALL AND NOW THAT KID IS HOLDING UP THE LINE EVEN MORE.
LIKE THE INTERSTATE.
IT'S ALWAYS CROWDED, IF SOMEBODY WRECKS THE CAR, YOU'RE IN
STAND-STILL TRAFFIC.
WE ALSO DON'T HAVE GREENSPACE OR PERFORMING ART SPACE
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ROOM.
WHILE MY SISTERS AND I MAY NOT BENEFIT FROM A NEW CAMPUS, I
HOPE FUTURE STUDENTS WILL.
THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I HOPE YOU WILL VOTE TO APPROVE THE NEW SCHOOL.
6:15:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE THE COMEDIAN IN YOUR CLASS?

[ LAUGHTER ]
6:16:00PM >> YEAH.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ APPLAUSE ]
6:16:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER.
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:16:09PM >> GRACE.
HELLO, CITY COUNCIL.
I'M GRACE AND A SAINT JOHNS STUDENT IN FOURTH GRADE.
BOTH OF MY SIBLINGS WENT HERE AND WE LOVE THE SCHOOL.
I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO ACCEPT OUR SCHOOL'S REZONING
APPLICATION.
ME AND MY PARENTS WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A NEW SCHOOL AND
GREATLY APPRECIATED.
YOU MAY BE THINKING, HOW COULD A NEW SCHOOL HELP STUDENTS
LEARN BETTER?
NEW SCHOOL GIVE US MORE STUDY MATERIALS AND NEWER AND MORE
SPECIALIZED CLASSES, MORE MODERN SCHOOL COULD HELP US MORE
SET FOR SUCCESS WHEN WE ARE ADULTS.
NEW SCHOOL WOULD ALSO GIVE US MORE ROOM TO EXPLORE
INTERESTS.
ART AND SCIENCE TEACHER SHARE A ROOM.
HOW DO WE LEARN ABOUT THE SOLAR SYSTEM WHEN PAINTINGS ARE IN
THE WAY?
IN THE NEW DESIGN, SEPARATE ROOMS FOR ART AND SCIENCE AND A

SOCCER.
RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A VERY SMALL GRASSED AREA FOR THEM TO
USE.
IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES IF WE HAD A REAL SOCCER FIELD TO
PLAY IN.
A NEW SCHOOL WOULD BE SAFER, TOO.
DURING HURRICANES MILTON AND HELENE, VERY LUCKY THAT THE
SCHOOL HAD MINIMAL DAMAGE.
A NEW SCHOOL WOULD BE SAFER DURING HURRICANES BECAUSE IT IS
FURTHER AWAY FROM THE BAY.
WE COULD HAVE ON CAMPUS HEALTHY MEALS THAT WE DON'T
CURRENTLY OFFER.
HAVING A NEW SCHOOL BUILDING WOULD MAKE STUDENTS MORE
EXCITED TO COME TO SCHOOL.
COULD HAVE EVENTS THERE, TOO, LIKE CHRIST THE KING HAS THEIR
CARNIVAL.
NEW CAMPUS WOULD MERGE TWO CAMPUSES.
KIDS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE WITH THEIR YOUNGER AND OLDER
SIBLINGS.
I WOULD HAVE FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WHEN I WENT TO SAINT
JOHNS IF I WAS ON THE SAME CAMPUS AS MY BROTHER AND SISTER.
HAVING AN AMAZING SCHOOL IN THE HEART OF TAMPA WOULD MAKE
PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO THE CITY AND THE AIR AROUND IT
BETTER.
PLEASE VOTE YES TO THE REZONING APPLICATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CONSIDERATION, HAVE A GREAT
EVENING.
GO EAGLES.
[ APPLAUSE ]
6:17:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SPEAKER.
6:18:01PM >> MARY ELLEN COLINS.
MY ADDRESS IS 246 WEST COUNTRY CLUB AVENUE.
AS A FOURTH GENERATION TAMPA RESIDENT, MY FAMILY AND I HAVE
WATCHED OUR COMMUNITY TRANSFORM OVER THE YEARS, FROM OUR
SKYLINE TO OUR WAY OF LIFE, TAMPA IS A MODERN-DAY CITY.
TRANSFORMATION MEANS CHANGE, THOUGH, AND CHANGE IS NEVER
EASY.
SOMETIMES IT'S NECESSARY, THOUGH, FOR A COMMUNITY TO
CONTINUE TO GROW AND PROSPER.
SUCH IS THE CASE WITH SAINT JOHNS EPISCOPAL.
IT HAS BEEN A FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN 100
YEARS AND THE SCHOOL IS CELEBRATING 73rd ANNIVERSARY.
REMAINS THE OLDEST INDEPENDENT SCHOOL IN THE STATE WITH RICH
HISTORY OF ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AND COMMUNITY VALUES.
PARISHIONER AND ALUM OF THE SCHOOL AND PARENT OF A SIXTH
GRADE AND TWIN FOURTH GRADERS I'M ACUTELY FAMILIAR WITH THE
SCHOOL'S TRADITIONS AND NEEDS.
I GRADUATED 34 YEARS AGO, THE SCHOOL HAS REMAINED LARGELY
UNCHANGED.
SAY THAT AGAIN.

34 YEARS AGO AND THE SCHOOL HAS NOT CHANGED.
ITS FACILITIES ARE IN DIRE NEED OF UPGRADES AND EXPANSION TO
MATCH THE CALIBER OF THE EDUCATION HAPPENING INSIDE ITS FOUR
WALLS.
SAINT JOHNS HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE
LARGER COMMUNITY FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT
MAKES SENSE, A PLAN NOT ONLY RESPECTFUL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
PRESERVES THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY BUT ALSO HELPS
REVITALIZE TAMPA'S URBAN CORE.
A PLAN THAT MEETS THE SCHOOL'S LONG-TERM NEEDS TO FULFILL
THE MISSION AND PROVIDE UNMATCHED K-8 EDUCATIONAL
EXPERIENCE.
I FULLY SUPPORT SAINT JOHNS REZONING APPLICATION AND ASK YOU
FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO HELP CONTINUE PROPELLING SAINT JOHNS
AND OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
SUBMIT THIS FOR THE RECORD.
6:19:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
GIVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
NEXT SPEAKER.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE AFTER THIS SPEAKER?
IF SO, PLEASE COME ON UP OR STAND UP.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

6:19:47PM >> HI.
LEAH.
4006 WEST CORONA STREET.
GOOD EVENING.
IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT I STAND IN FRONT OF YOU TO
EXPRESS MY ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT FOR THE NEW BUILDING ZONING
APPLICATION.
MY HUSBAND AND I ARE TAMPA NATIVES AND PROUD PARENTS OF TWO
YOUNG EAGLES.
MY DAUGHTER, THE ILLUSTRATOR OF ONE OF THE GRAPHICS YOU'VE
SEEN.
WE ARE BOTH PRACTICING ARCHITECTS ALSO BY PROFESSION.
I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF DESIGNING AND MANAGING A VARIETY OF
LARGE URBAN DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE MANY LAYERS OF DECISION MAKING AND
REGULATORY COMPLEXITY THAT GO INTO URBAN DEVELOPMENTS AND
HAVE A VERY DEEP RESPECT FOR LEADERSHIP IN YOUR POSITION.
MORE SO, I'VE WITNESSED THE TRANSFORMATIVE POWER THAT
THOUGHTFUL, WELL EXECUTED DESIGN CAN HAVE ON A COMMUNITY,
NOT ONLY FOR THOSE WHO LIVE THERE, BUT ALSO FOR THOSE WHO
VISIT AND ENGAGE WITH IT.
EARLIER, DROP-OFF AND PICKUP WAS MENTIONED.
I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND OUR TRAFFIC STUDIES AND FEEL CONFIDENT
THAT THIS DESIGN IS A HUGE ASSET TO THE AREA AND TO OUR
TRAFFIC PATTERNS.

AS A PARENT AND MEMBER OF THE SAINT JOHNS BOARD OF TRUSTEES,
I CONTINUE TO BE IMPRESSED BY THE SCHOOL'S DRIVE TO BETTER
ITSELF WHILE REMAIN ROOTED IN THE CORE VALUES AND TRADITIONS
UPON WHICH IT IS FOUNDED.
CHILDREN'S EDUCATION FOR MANY REASONS, ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT IS THE DEEP AND AUTHENTIC COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY
SERVICE AND RESPONSIBILITY TO SOMETHING GREATER THAN SELF.
BY APPROVING THIS NEW UNIFIED CAMPUS, YOU ARE ENABLING THE
SCHOOL TO FURTHER THIS MISSION AND EXTEND ITS POSITIVE
IMPACT.
NO LONGER CONSTRAINED BY THE DETERIORATING BUILDINGS AND
OUTDATED, INEFFICIENT LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS THAT OUR
STUDENTS -- THAT LIMIT OUR STUDENTS' POTENTIAL.
SOMEONE ONCE TOLD ME THAT SCHOOLS ARE THE MOST POWERFUL
EXPRESSION OF COMMUNITY'S VALUES.
WE AT SAINT JOHNS RECOGNIZE THE RESPONSIBILITY WE HAVE
SITUATED SO CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN'S CORE, NOT ONLY TO REPRESENT
THE VALUES OF COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO ENHANCE AND DIVERSIFY
THE CITY'S URBAN FABRIC.
WE BELIEVE THIS NEW BUILD WILL BRING VITALITY TO THE AREA,
SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES, AND SUPPORT A THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD
WHERE EDUCATION IS FULLY INTEGRATED INTO THE DAILY LIFE OF
OUR CITY.
THE NEW MASTER PLAN WILL PROVIDE OUR CHILDREN, FACULTY AND
GENERATIONS OF STUDENTS TO COME WITH A SAFE, HEALTHY, AND

FLEXIBLE ENVIRONMENT THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO GROW IN NEW
WAYS AND EXPLORE A BROADER RANGE OF ACTIVITIES, SKILLS,
ATHLETICS, AND SERVICES OPPORTUNITIES.
WE BELIEVE THIS PROJECT SUPPORTS OUR COLLECTIVE AND SHARED
GOALS FOR SUSTAINABLE URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT IN
OUR CITY'S NEXT GENERATION AND LONG TERM COMMUNITY
RESILIENCE.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO SUPPORT AND PRIORITIZE THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS MASTER PLAN.
6:22:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK?
YES, SIR.
6:22:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE, AGAIN, ON THE
DROP-OFFS, NOT THAT -- OBVIOUSLY, I THINK IT IS A GREAT
PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY, BUT I WANT TO -- I'D LIKE TO
YOU EXPLAIN TO ME SO I KNOW WHEN I MAKE MY VOTE THAT I'M
VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT I CAN STAND BEHIND, YOU KNOW.
WHAT ARE THE STAGGERED TIMES?
HOW MANY CARS CAN YOU ACCOMMODATE ON PROPERTY AT ONE TIME
WHILE THEY ARE BEING DROPPED OFF?
AND WHAT IS THE TOTAL ANTICIPATED LIKE NUMBER OF VEHICLES
THAT ARE ENTERING AND EXITING DURING DROP-OFF PERIODS?
6:23:05PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

CHARLES DAVIS, 100 SOUTH ASHLEY DRIVE, ASSISTING THE
APPLICANT AS LEGAL COUNSEL.
I'M GOING TO ADDRESS ONE COMPONENT OF THE QUESTION.
WE HAVE OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONALS WITH US AS WELL WHO CAN GO
THROUGH SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND
QUEUING.
JUST SO COUNCIL KNOWS, ALLUDED TO IN THE FIRST PART OF OUR
PRESENTATION, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT ON TITLE THAT WE NEEDED
TO AMEND.
WE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH PUBLIX AND THE EXPRESSWAY
AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS ALL THE TRAFFIC AND QUEUING CONCERNS.
SO THERE ACTUALLY IS A RECORDED AGREEMENT TO THAT EFFECT,
DISCUSSING HOW WE'RE GOING TO STAGGER THE PICKUP AND
DROP-OFF TIMES AND GO INTO THE QUEUING.
WE WENT THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT TRAFFIC STUDIES THROUGHOUT OUR
APPLICATION, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT GENERAL POINT
THAT WE HAVE.
6:23:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT IN THE RECORD?
DO WE HAVE THAT?
I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT.
6:24:02PM >> I CAN SUBMIT IT TO THE RECORD.
6:24:07PM >> CATE WELLS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
IT WASN'T PART OF THE CERTIFIED, SO IT'S NOT IN OnBase.
I HAVE COPIES OF THE RECORDED AGREEMENT WHICH I'LL PROVIDE.
6:24:21PM >> ROB GIDEL, 400 NORTH ASHLEY.

I WANTED TO FURTHER THAT POINT, NO ONE HAS A GREATER
INTEREST IN PREVENTING SORT OF ANY SORT OF BLOCKAGE THAN
PUBLIX.
WHEN ASHLEY SAID TOOK TWO AND A HALF YEARS, YEAR AND A HALF
WAS NEGOTIATING WITH PUBLIX.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE TO PUBLIX.
THEY DESERVE THAT, THE RESPECT.
THAT WAS THE REASON WHY THEY WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH OUR
TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
THAT ROADWAY AGREEMENT WASN'T REQUIRED AS PART OF THE
APPLICATION.
ONLY WAY WE COULD GET PUBLIX ON BOARD.
YOU'LL SEE IN THIS DOCUMENT THERE IS QUEUING, THERE IS
STAGGERING.
THERE'S ALSO THE REQUIREMENT FOR US TO KEEP REPRESENTATIVES
ON THE SIDE TO ESSENTIALLY, TO THE EXTENT THERE ARE
BLOCKADES THAT THEY ARE MOVING TRAFFIC ALONG.
WE HAVE TO INFORM OUR PARENTS ONCE A MONTH ABOUT THE TRAFFIC
TO ADJUST AS CIRCUMSTANCES ARISE THAT MAY REQUIRE US TO
AMEND OUR THOUGHT PROCESS WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC AND
QUEUING.
WE ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT WE WANT AT ALL TO BE PROBLEMATIC FOR THE CITY
OF TAMPA OR PUBLIX.
AND TO THAT END, AGAIN, TO THE CITY'S BENEFIT, PUBLIX IS A

PART OF THAT AGREEMENT AND THEY WOULD ENFORCE IT.
SO I THINK THAT'S JUST AN ADDED BUFFER AND HELPFUL PIECE FOR
YOU ALL TO KNOW ABOUT.
6:25:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID YOU ANTICIPATE WHAT THAT FLOW WOULD
LOOK LIKE ON THE EXIT FROM THE ALLEY TURNING NORTHBOUND
TOWARDS THE CROSSTOWN?
THAT IS THE SECTION THAT KIND OF LIKE CONCERNS ME, THE EXIT
FROM THE ALLEY TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE OF THE CROSSTOWN.
6:26:01PM >> YES, SIR, ABSOLUTELY.
NOT SHIFT IT BACK TO PUBLIX, BUT TO HIGHLIGHT THE POINT,
THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING THEIR TRUCKS, BECAUSE THEY
HAVE NO CERTAINTY AND UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHEN THEY'LL SHOW
UP.
WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE THEM ASSURANCES THAT THERE'S GOING TO
BE ENOUGH TURNING RADIUS, WE WEREN'T GOING TO BLOCK THE TWO
LANES.
YES, THERE WILL BE A REPRESENTATIVE THAT STANDS ON THE
CORNER.
SO IF THERE IS BLOCKAGE AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET AROUND,
SAME THING WITH THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY.
WE WORKED WITH THEM AS WELL BECAUSE THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT
HOW THIS WAS GOING TO IMPACT THEIR RAMP THERE.
TO THE EXTENT IT'S BLOCKED, IT IS OUR OBLIGATION TO MOVE
TRAFFIC AROUND, DOES THAT MEAN PARENTS MIGHT HAVE TO TURN
AROUND?

THAT'S WHAT IT WILL HAVE TO BE.
RECORDED OBLIGATION, LEGAL OBLIGATION AND AGREEMENT THAT'S
RECORDED.
6:26:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEA AND PUBLIX,
GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
THANK YOU.
6:26:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
6:26:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST FOLLOWING ON THAT, WHAT ABOUT THE
LOADING DOCKS BEHIND PUBLIX?
YOU SAID THEY DID NOT AGREE TO NOT LOAD DURING CERTAIN
TIMES?
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE BLOCKAGES THERE?
6:27:10PM >> PROTECTED TIME PERIODS WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SORT OF
HAVE SUPERVISION, SURVEILLANCE, HOWEVER, WHERE WE HAVE
SOMEONE ON-SITE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP ALLEVIATE THE
TRAFFIC.
IF THERE IS A TRUCK FROM PUBLIX THAT COMES, WE'RE SUPPOSED
TO KIND OF USHER IN.
THERE WAS NOTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE FOR THEM THAT WE
NEEDED TO ADDRESS AND GET THEM COMFORTABLE WITH.
6:27:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO FOLLOW ON COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN'S
COMMENT FROM EARLIER, HE TALKED ABOUT ACADEMY.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON PLATT STREET AS
COMPARED TO WHAT IT IS NOW?

6:27:51PM >> AS TO WHERE IT IS NOW, I THINK IT WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY
IMPROVED BECAUSE WE ARE ENFORCING THE STAGGERING WHERE THERE
ARE DROP-OFF TIMES.
I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK AS TO WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, BUT
I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB SORT OF
ENSURING THAT THE TIME PERIODS WERE NOT GOING TO KIND OF ALL
COINCIDE AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT WAS NUMBER ONE.
I THINK THE ADDITIONAL PIECE THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE
EXPRESSWAY AND PUBLIX WAS THAT THE QUEUING THAT WE'VE HAD
ISSUES IN THE PAST WITH SOMETIMES ARISES FROM PEOPLE THAT
DON'T NECESSARILY FOLLOW THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT THEY ARE
SUPPOSED TO.
NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE TRY TO ENFORCE THAT.
AND SO, AGAIN, IT'S ON US PURSUANT TO THIS AGREEMENT AND OUR
OBLIGATION TO THEM, THAT WE HAVE CONES PRESENTED THERE.
PEOPLE INSTRUCTING AND PARENTS THAT VIOLATE THIS WHEN THEY
COME TO PICK UP AND DROP OFF, ARE GOING TO BE REPRIMANDED
FOR IT.
6:28:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT MacDILL
EVEN WHEN IT'S NOT PICKUP AND DROP-OFF TIME.
DO YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC PERSON WHO CAN EXPLAIN -- WE KNOW
THIS, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO
PRESENT EVIDENCE?
CAN YOU PRESENT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WIDTH AND TRAFFIC

FLOW ON MacDILL BY ACADEMY VERSUS PLATT STREET NEXT TO
THIS?
6:29:16PM >> MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT HAVING IT UP EARLIER.
TRIP GENERATOR FROM OUR APPROVED TRAFFIC STUDY.
IT WAS APPROVED BY TRANSPORTATION.
I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT, MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT NOTING IT
DURING THE PRESENTATION, THIS WILL BE REDUCING TRIPS ON
PLATT BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO COME OFF OF
PLATT STREET.
IN ADDITION, WHAT IS A NEW NOTE HERE, A, IT IS A
MULTI-INTERGENERATIONAL CAMPUS NOW.
WE WILL BE HAVING REDUCED TRIPS BECAUSE WE WILL BE PICKING
UP FAMILIES DEPENDING ON THE SAME.
ALSO ON-SITE FOR AFTER SCHOOL.
SO YOU'LL HAVE LONGER HOURS.
THE OTHER ADDITIONAL NOTE IS THE SURFACE PARKING WHICH IS
GREATLY ENHANCED WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T
WANT TO WAIT IN CAR LINE, I AM NOT A CAR LINE LADY, I AM A
WALK AND PICK UP MY CHILD AT MacFARLANE PARK ELEMENTARY.
THEY CAN GO PARK AND INTERACT AT THE FRONT DOOR WHICH
REDUCES THE LINING, THE QUEUING TRIPS.
THIS BECOMES MORE OF A CAMPUS ENVIRONMENT THAT INCREASES
PEDESTRIANS AND ALSO INCREASES THE ABILITY TO DO BIKING.
THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS TO SKIN THIS CAT.
IT'S TAKING TRAFFIC OFF OF PLATT.

IT'S CIRCULATING IT WITH CARDY STREET AND ALLEY ECOSYSTEM,
LETTING FOLKS BE WALKERS OR PARKERS AND WALK TO THE FRONT
DOOR AS WELL AS GENERATING HOPEFULLY MORE BICYCLE TRIPS BY
BEING A NICER, SAFER PLACE TO HAVE YOUR BIKES.
6:30:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU SAID YOU ARE COMBINING, THAT MEANS
YOU'RE COMBINING THE KIDS FROM THE CHURCH -- I THINK WE USED
TO CALL IT MIDDLE SCHOOL, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME.
ANYWAY, COMBINING THOSE KIDS.
THAT MEANS LESS TRAFFIC THROUGH HYDE PARK THEN.
6:30:52PM >> CORRECT, YES.
THAT'S TRUE.
IT'S ALL BEING CONSOLIDATED ONTO ONE CAMPUS.
THE LITTLEST OF OUR KIDS TO THE ELDEST, 8th GRADERS WOULD
ALL BE ON ONE CAMPUS.
THEY MIGHT BE STAYING LONGER OR SHORTER WITH AFTER SCHOOL
PROGRAMS, CLUBS.
IT MAKES IT MORE OF AN ECOSYSTEM AND LESS THAN A ONE SITE,
SIT IN A CAR LINE, GET OUT OF THERE SITUATION.
HARD TO PREDICT EVERYTHING.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS IT WON'T BE AN IMPOSITION.
IT WAS IMPROVED.
WHEN THE REALITIES OF THE LOGISTICS OF THE CAMPUS COME TO
LIFE YOU'LL SEE A VERY RICH EXPERIENCE, I THINK.
AND ALSO WALKERS.
I THINK THIS GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR WALKERS.

IT'S NOT THAT FAR FROM FOLKS WHO MIGHT LIVE IN THE ADJACENT
NEIGHBORHOODS TO WALK THEIR CHILDREN IN OR AT LEAST BIKE
THEIR CHILDREN IN.
NOT UNLIKE YOU SEE ON THE HYDE PARK CAMPUSES.
6:31:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE THEY CLOSING THE HYDE PARK CAMPUS?
STILL GOING TO BE A SCHOOL?
6:31:50PM >> HUGH JEBSON, HEAD OF SCHOOL.
JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF POINTS, WE WILL KEEP THE ROOM --
WE HAVE A SMALL CAMPUS FOR FOUR AND FIVE-YEAR-OLDS, THAT'S
STAYING.
THE CAMPUS ATTACHED TO THE CHURCH, THE CHURCH WILL DETERMINE
WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT ONCE THE SCHOOL VACATES IT.
SO THE TRAFFIC FROM THAT SITE CURRENTLY WILL LEAVE THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO
STATE.
ONE, STAGGERED TIMES IN THE MORNING WILL ALLEVIATE A LOT OF
THE PRESSURE AND THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
THE TRAFFIC FLOW DESIGN THAT YOU'VE SEEN WILL ALLEVIATE IT.
WE WILL DIRECT FAMILIES TO PARK IN THE GARAGE IF THEY NEED
TO STOP.
AFTERNOON WILL BE MUCH LESS OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO
MANY AFTER-SCHOOL ACTIVITIES ON THAT SITE.
TEAMS, ACTIVITIES, CLUBS, THEY STAY LATER AND DEPART IN
DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS.

6:32:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION OR
SOMEBODY ELSE, IS TRAFFIC PERMITTED TO ENTER THE GARAGE VIA
PLATT AND PARKER?
CAN THEY GO ON PLATT AND TURN LEFT ON PARKER INTO THE
GARAGE?
6:32:52PM >> THAT IS A DESIGN QUESTION.
6:32:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CAN I ASK THE PRINCIPAL SOMETHING WHILE
HE'S STANDING THERE?
6:32:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
6:32:59PM >> DAVID PETERSON, ARCHITECTS.
6:33:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE TOP OF THE WHEEL.
6:33:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WALK UP -- TRAFFIC OVER
HERE ON PLATT GETS BACKED UP, CAN THEY COME DOWN PLATT, GO
ONTO PARKER AND ENTER THE GARAGE THAT WAY?
6:33:33PM >> THEY CAN, YES.
TURN IN LEFT OR TURN IN RIGHT.
6:33:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS A PRESSURE RELIEVER.
6:33:40PM >> WE ALSO HAVE THE SMALL SIDE LANE, SO IF SOMEBODY IS
DROPPING OFF A PROJECT EARLY IN THE MORNING, THEY CAN GET
OUT OF THE WAY ON THE ALLEY TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC MOVING.
6:33:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU HAD A
QUESTION.
6:33:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WANTED TO ASK THE PRINCIPAL A QUESTION
BECAUSE I'M SURE THE TEACHERS ARE LISTENING.
LOOKING AT THIS PLAN, IT LOOKS LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF EXTRA

TEACHER DUTIES GOING ON.
[ LAUGHTER ]
YOU MIGHT WANT TO CLEAN THAT UP FOR THE RECORD BEFORE
CONSTRUCTION STARTS.
6:34:07PM >> WE DON'T NEED TO TELL THEM THAT.
WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WAS ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE A PRIVATE
SECURITY COMPANY THAT WE CONTRACT TO, SO THEY WILL BE
ENFORCING --
6:34:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO TEACHER DUTIES.
6:34:22PM >> I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
6:34:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST TRYING TO GET IT ON THE RECORD FOR
THE TEACHERS.
THANK YOU, SIR.
6:34:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION.
THE RENDERINGS, BECAUSE OF THE COLOR, LOOK LIKE YOU'RE
RETAINING THE RED BRICKS.
IS THAT TRUE OR NOT?
6:34:38PM >> YES.
6:34:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU ARE RETAINING THEM.
6:34:41PM >> OH, YES, FOR THE ALLEY, YES.
6:34:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEED YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
6:34:53PM >> DAVID PETERSON, COOPER JOHNSON SMITH, PETERSON
ARCHITECTS.
6:34:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU SAID THE BRICKS WILL REMAIN IN THE

ALLEY.
6:34:59PM >> YES.
WE'LL REMOVE THEM AND REINSTALL THEM BECAUSE THE WHOLE ALLEY
NEEDS TO BE REWORKED.
6:35:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE?
IF NOT, NOTHING FURTHER, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 5?
6:35:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ-25-29, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 240, 258 SOUTH PLANT
AVENUE, 205, 207, 209 AND 211 WEST PLATT STREET IN THE CITY
OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS, OP, OFFICE
PROFESSIONAL, AND CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, SCHOOL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:35:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, BOTH TEACHERS.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.

6:35:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALONG WITH VARIOUS REPORTS OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
6:36:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, AND A REVISION SHEET.
6:36:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
6:36:09PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 5, 2025 --
[ APPLAUSE ]
OLD CITY HALL.
[ APPLAUSE ]
THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33 --
6:36:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT AS THE CHAMBERS --
6:36:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOR THE RECORD --
6:36:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF WE COULD KEEP IT DOWN.
WE'RE STILL IN THE MEETING.
WE'LL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[RECESS]

06:41:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
06:41:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
06:41:29PM >>GUIDO :
HERE.
06:41:34PM >>CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
06:41:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, NUMBER 6.
06:41:40PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
ITEM NUMBER 6 IS TO REZONE 918 EAST 123 AVENUE FROM PD TO
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-DETACHED PLACES.
START WITH AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SURROUNDING
AREA.
SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED HERE.
THIS IS ALONG EAST 23rd AND THEN 10th -- NORTH 10th STREET
IS RIGHT HERE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS COMPOSED OF ONE PARCEL LOCATED ON WEST
SIDE OF NORTH 10th STREET AND IN THE GENERAL VICINITY
BETWEEN EAST 23rd AVENUE AND EAST 24th AVENUE.
THE AREA SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE CONTAIN MOSTLY
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
SURROUNDING AREAS ARE COMPRISED OF RS-50 WITH ONE REZONING
OF RM-16 OVER HERE, ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH AND MOSTLY CG
USES ALONG NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
DWELLINGS.
FRONT ORIENTATION FOR UNIT ONE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE IS
FACING NORTH 10th STREET.
AND THE FRONT DOOR ORIENTATION FOR UNIT TWO IS ALONG EAST
23rd.
AND THAT FRONT DOOR IS RIGHT HERE.
EACH UNIT IS PROPOSED WITH THREE STORIES AND A TWO-CAR
GARAGE WITH ENCLOSED PARKING.
YOU SEE THOSE GARAGES HERE.
THERE ARE EXISTING SIDEWALKS ALONG NORTH 10th STREET AND
EAST 23rd AVENUE.
ALLEYWAY NORTH OF SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS HERE.
THE APPLICANT WORKED ON THE DESIGN WITH STAFF AND SAVED TWO
OF THE TREES ON-SITE.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE HERE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY AND MUST
COMPLY WITH STANDARDS AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING UNLESS
WAIVED HEREIN.
PROPOSED ELEVATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THIS IS FOR UNIT ONE.
THIS SHOWS THE WEST ELEVATION.
THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION.
THE EAST ELEVATION.
AND THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
THIS IS FOR UNIT TWO.
THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION.
THE NORTH ELEVATION.
EAST.
AND SOUTH.
NEXT, I WILL SHOW SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE AND SURROUNDING
AREA. THIS IS THE PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
JUST LOOKING AROUND TO THE OTHER SIDE THERE.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS SOUTH.
AND THIS IS RESIDENCE JUST WEST OF THE SITE THAT YOU CAN SEE
ON THE OTHER PHOTOS.
EAST.
THIS IS THAT ALLEYWAY TO THE NORTH.
THIS IS ALONG EAST 23rd AVENUE LOOKING WEST.
THIS IS ALONG NORTH 10th STREET LOOKING SOUTH.
AND FINALLY, THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON 10th STREET.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
NO WAIVERS AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE APPLICATION, THE MODIFICATIONS
OF THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED REVISION SHEET
MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
IF NO QUESTIONS, TURN IT OVER TO EMILY.
06:45:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:45:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU CAN PUT THE SITE PLAN BACK UP.
06:45:46PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
YES, MA'AM.
06:45:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
CAN WE -- I SEE WE HAVE STORMWATER RETENTION ON THERE.
06:45:52PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
YES, MA'AM.
06:45:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS IT PERMISSIBLE TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE
OFFICIAL SITE PLAN?
06:45:59PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
THAT IS JUST THERE TO RESERVE IT FOR THE
TIME OF PERMITTING.
THAT WILL HAPPEN AT -- THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE
STORMWATER STANDARDS AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
06:46:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY REASONING IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS
THIS COUNCIL DEALS WITH A LOT IS WHAT HAPPENS IF A
STORMWATER RETENTION POND IS REQUIRED AND THEN, YOU KNOW,
YOU SELL THE HOUSE AND IT GETS FILLED IN.
SO I WAS WONDERING IF WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE SITE PLAN.
I SPOKE TO MISS WELLS ABOUT IT EARLIER.
06:46:31PM >>SAM THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THERE SHOULD BE NOTES ON THE SITE PLAN THAT SAY THE SITE
WILL COMPLY WITH ALL STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS ALREADY.
06:46:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD ASK.
06:46:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, OTHER QUESTIONS?
NOT YET.
YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP.
06:46:59PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
ARE YOU WORRIED IS THAT THE STORMWATER WILL GO AWAY AFTER
THEY ARE PERMITTED?
06:47:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TEN, 20 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, THIRD OWNER
DOESN'T KNOW IT IS A RETENTION POND AND FILLS IT IN.
THAT A PROBLEM WE HAVE BEEN HAVING ON OUR COUNCIL, LIKE OUR
REGULAR JOB SIDE.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD SOLIDIFY ON A
SITE PLAN.
BUT THE APPLICANT SAID THEY WILL ADDRESS IT.
SO I WILL LEAVE IT TO THAT.
06:47:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:47:32PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
06:47:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP.
06:47:37PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SITE IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, EAST
TAMPA URBAN DISTRICT UNDER VM YBOR NEIGHBORHOOD BACK IN
EVACUATION ZONE E.
SITE OUTLINED IN PURPLE WITH RESIDENTIAL-20 DESIGNATION TO
THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND ACROSS THE
STREET IS THE RESIDENTIAL-10.
MOVING FURTHER WEST ALONG THEY PRACTICES CA AVENUE IS
THE CMU-5 AND NEBRASKA AVENUE IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS
CORRIDOR.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH
THE DENSITY PLANNED FOR UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-20 DESIGNATION
AS POLICIES THAT SUPPORT INFILL DEVELOPMENT ON VACANT AND
UNDERUTILIZED LAND.
THE REQUEST WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN
PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL SERVICES AND AMENITIES ALONG NORTH
NEBRASKA AVENUE AND COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE REQUEST WILL NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING
WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OVERALL, THE PROPOSED PD FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT AT THAT
COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN AND KENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:48:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
MR. MICHELINI, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
06:48:51PM >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
AS THE STAFF HAS POINTED OUT, THIS IS RESIDENTIAL-20, WHICH
TECHNICALLY ACCORDING TO THE LAND USE CODE, YOU COULD HAVE
THREE UNITS THERE.
BUT WHAT WE DID WAS -- CAN YOU SEE ALL THAT?
WHAT WE DID WAS PROVIDED A 22-FOOT SETBACK ON THIS SIDE TO
PROTECT THAT TREE AND A 21-AND-A-HALF-FOOT SETBACK OVER HERE
TO PROTECT THAT TREE.
IT IS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE FOR THREE UNITS THE
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED IS MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER
ON THIS.
THE SIZE OF SETBACKS SQUEEZED BETWEEN THE TWO UNITS, BUT
SAVING THE TREE WAS THE MUCH GREATER DESIRE AND GOAL.
YOU ASKED ABOUT THE STORMWATER.
WE HAVE TO SHOW AN AREA FOR STORMWATER.
THESE ARE NOT WET PONDS.
THESE ARE DRY.
SO THE DOWNSPOUTS AND ALL OF THE DRAINAGE WILL FLOW TO THE
RESPECTIVE AREAS BEFORE IT GOES ANYWHERE ELSE.
AND THE POST CONDITION FOR STORMWATER WAS BETTER THAN THE
CURRENT CONDITION.
THE OLDER HOMES HAD NO RETENTION AND DID NOT ADDRESS
STORMWATER IN ANY RESPECT.
SO THESE WILL HAVE TO MEET THE TECHNICAL STANDARDS THAT ARE
NOT WAIVABLE.
06:50:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
06:50:22PM >> WE ARE PROPOSING 35 FEET IN HEIGHT.
THE GARAGES ARE RECESSED SO THEY DON'T -- THEY ARE NOT FLAT.
THEY DON'T -- THEY ARE NOT GOING TO APPEAR AS WHAT WE CALL
SNOUT HOUSES.
AND THEY ARE -- THEY ARE WIDE ENOUGH, 20 FEET WIDE AND 22
FEET IN DEPTH.
THEY ARE ABOUT 2500-SQUARE-FOOT UNITS.
MORE OR LESS.
OF LIVING AREA.
AND THE -- I AM SORRY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY STAFF HAVE BOTH FOUND
IT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE
CITY PLANNING STRATEGY, URBAN VILLAGE, RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, REGULATIONS, MULTIFAMILY, LOW INCOME
-- I MEAN LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
WE MET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED BY THE CODE REGARDING PLAN
DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT HAS BEEN YOUR SHEET TO PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE
DEVELOPMENT WHERE APPROPRIATE AND LOCATION.
THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE INFILL FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
PROMOTE A MORE DESIRABLE LIVING CONDITIONS.
THIS WILL -- THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST AREAS GOING
IN FOR REDEVELOPMENT HERE WHICH WILL HELP TO UPLIFT THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS AT SO FAR HAS NOT SEEN A LOT OF
ACTIVITY.
PROMOTE LIVING AND DESIRABLE CONDITIONS IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
IT WILL ALSO REQUIRE US TO UPGRADE THE WATER -- STORMWATER.
THE WATER UTILITIES, THE SANITARY SEWER AND THE STORM
FACILITIES AS THOSE CONNECTIONS ARE OUTDATED.
AND AS WE BRING THIS IN, THE CITY IS GOING TO MAKE US
UPGRADE THOSE OTHER FACILITIES.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THESE
STRUCTURES.
PROMOTE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AS THE STAFF HAS POINTED
OUT.
BOTH OF THE ENTRYWAYS FACE RIGHT-OF-WAYS OF WAY.
ONE ON 23rd AND ONE ON 10th STREET.
WE DID MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION LAST NIGHT.
WE DISCUSSED EXACTLY WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT PARAMETERS WERE
AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS.
A LOT OF QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION AND DIALOGUE, BUT NO ONE HAD
ANY OBJECTION.
TWO-CAR GARAGE AND 18 FEET FROM THE FACE OF GARAGE TO THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE WHICH PROVIDES ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR
VISITORS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
06:52:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
06:52:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:52:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
06:52:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ITEM?
06:53:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 6, FILE NUMBER REZ
25-32.
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL 818 EAST 23rd
AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS-50, PD, TO SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:53:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:53:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TONIGHT, I APPRECIATE THE FOCUS ON THE TREE
AND ATTENTION TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY.
IT DOES FIT IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:53:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
06:53:46PM >> ONE MORE ELEVATION THAT IS KID-CERTIFIED AND SIGNED BY
ONE OF THE CHILDREN.
INCLUDED A TREE ON EITHER SIDE AND THE SUN.
06:54:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN THE RECORD.
06:54:08PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING, JUNE 5, 2025, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR,
TAMPA, FLORIDA.
06:54:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT,
ITEM NUMBER 9.
06:54:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK.
ITEM 9 ,REZ 25-14 AT PROPERTY 4601 AND 4611 WEST NORTH A
STREET.
THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY ROB ROSNER.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND APPROVED IN 2013 FOR BUSINESS
PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL OFFICE TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
AND I DID WANT TO JUST PROVIDE A BRIEF BACKGROUND.
THIS ITEM WAS HEARD BEFORE COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY.
IT WAS AT THE FEBRUARY 27th HEARING.
AND AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL DIRECTED THE APPLICANT TO GO TO
REDESIGN THE SITE AND POSSIBLY ADD ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM
THE NORTH FROM THE ALLEY.
SO THE APPLICANT REDESIGNED THE SITE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE CHANGES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN
THE BACKGROUND FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD.
AND ALSO JUST TO SHOW YOU FIRST BEFORE I GO OVER THAT, THIS
IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE THREE BUILDINGS PROPOSED.
THIS IS WHAT WAS BEFORE YOU IN FEBRUARY AT THE HEARING.
THIS IS TRASK STREET.
THIS IS NORTH A STREET.
TWO POINTS OF ACCESS ON NORTH A.
THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
SO THE APPLICANT REDESIGNED THE PLAN.
AND THIS IS THE NEW SITE PLAN, WHICH IS BEFORE YOU THIS
EVENING.
AND LET ME ZOOM IN ON THAT.
AND SO THIS IS TRASK STREET.
AND THEN THIS IS NORTH A.
SO THE DIFFERENCES IN THE PLAN -- THE APPLICANT ADDED AN
ADDITIONAL BUILDING AND THERE ARE NOW FOUR BUILDINGS IN THE
DESIGN INSTEAD OF THREE.
THE UNITS WERE INCREASED FROM A UNIT COUNT OF 21 TO 23
UNITS.
THE BUILDINGS WERE REORIENTED.
AS YOU CAN SEE BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO ARE FRONTING WEST
NORTH STREET.
BUILDINGS THREE AND FOUR HAVE FRONTAGE TOWARD THE INTERIOR
COURTYARD AREA.
BUILDINGS ONE AND TWO HAVE VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM NORTH A
STREET.
EACH HAS A ONE-CAR GARAGE AND SURFACE PARKING FOR BUILDINGS
ONE AND TWO.
BUILDINGS THREE AND FOUR HAVE THE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY.
VEHICULAR ACCESS.
GARAGE ONLY.
TWO BUILDINGS FOR EACH UNIT, HAS TWO-CAR ENCLOSED GARAGE.
BUILDINGS ONE, THREE AND FOUR CONTAIN SIX UNITS.
BUILDING TWO CONTAINS FIVE UNITS.
AND THERE IS A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT THAT WAS INCREASED
SLIGHTLY FROM 35 FEET TO 40 FEET.
ALSO, THE APPLICANT ELIMINATED THREE WAIVERS, WHICH WERE
PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED AT THE FEBRUARY HEARING.
THEY HAVE REMOVED THE NEED FOR THE BUFFER TREE INTERVAL FOR
FRONT DOOR ORIENTATION THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND GREEN
SPACE, THAT WAIVER HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PLAN.
SO IN THE PROJECT TABLE, THE PROJECT INFORMATION TABLE
PROVIDED IN THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGES TWO AND THREE.
I BOLDED AND UNDERLINED THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, THE
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO PLANS.
THE PARKING THAT IS NOW REQUIRED IS 23 SPACES.
AND THEY ARE PROVIDING 46 SPACES.
THE SITE IS IN THE WEST SHORE OVERLAY, SO THOSE PARKING
STANDARDS ARE SPECIFIC TO THE OVERLAY AND THAT IS HOW THEIR
PARKING IS DETERMINED.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST GO TO THE SITE PLAN AND SHOW
YOU THE SIDEWALKS MAINTAINED.
LOCATE ALONG EAST ALONG NORTH TRASK STREET AND YOU CAN SEE
THE INTERIOR GREEN SPACE THAT WAS PROVIDED THERE THAT
ALLOWED THE ADDITION OF ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTINGS AND THE
DESIGNS SAVES THE TREES BORDERING THE SITE FROM THE EAST AND
THE SOUTH ALSO.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE ELEVATIONS SUBMITTED.
THESE ARE THE NEW ELEVATIONS ON THE SITE.
SO THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION, AND THIS IS THE WEST
ELEVATION AND WHEN YOU ZOOM OUT, YOU CAN SEE BOTH.
THE TOP IS THE NORTH ELEVATION, AND THE BOTTOM IS THE SOUTH
ELEVATION.
AND THIS IS THE OTHER ONE.
THAT WAS FOR THE HVAC UNITS.
SO YOU HAVE THE WEST ELEVATION THAT IS LOCATED HERE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR EAST ELEVATION.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE NORTH ELEVATION ON TOP.
AND THEN THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
THEN I HAVE THE ZONING ATLAS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE -- THE SUBJECT SITE IS
IDENTIFIED IN RED.
THIS IS NORTH A STREET.
THIS IS TRASK. THIS IS WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
AND THIS IS KENNEDY.
I AM --
06:59:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT IS OUT OF FOCUS.
YEAH.
06:59:41PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
OKAY.
AND YOU CAN SEE, OF COURSE, ALONG KENNEDY -- OH, THERE WE
GO.
ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING ALONG
WITH THOSE COMMERCIAL USES THAT EXIST DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE
SITE IS A BANK THAT IS THERE AND COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE YOUR
WALGREEN'S COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT THE CORNER AT WESTSHORE
BOULEVARD.
THIS IS THE EXISTING WESTSHORE PLAZA, WHICH, OF COURSE, HAS
BEEN RECENTLY REZONED TO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, YOU HAVE THE PD ZONINGS.
AND THOSE HAVE THE COMMERCIAL, THE OFFICE USES.
NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, YOU HAVE YOUR SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED ALONG WITH YOUR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.
AND FURTHER EAST OF THE SITE, YOU HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED DIRECTLY EAST.
AS YOU HEAD FURTHER EAST ALONG WEST NORTH A STREET, YOUR
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND THE PDs WITH MULTIFAMILY AND
ATTACHED USE ON SITE.
AND THEN ALSO HAVE PHOTO OF THE SITE, BUT LET ME JUST SHOW
YOU A FEW JUST OF THE SITE ITSELF.
YOU MAY REMEMBER THE SITE FROM THE FIRST READING.
SOME THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THAT SHOT EAST PORTION OF THE SITE AT NORTH A AND TRASK.
THIS IS THE EAST END OF THE SITE.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW TO SHOW YOU THE EXISTING ENTRANCE TO
THE SITE.
THIS IS ON-SITE IF YOU ARE LOOKING EAST TOWARD THE NORTH END
OF SITE.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW JUST SHOWING YOU -- LOOKING WEST OF THE
SITE.
THIS IS WEST.
THIS IS IF YOU ARE LOOKING WEST ON NORTH A STREET.
THE SITE IS OFF TO THE RIGHT.
THIS IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SITE IS OFF TO THE RIGHT IN THAT PICTURE.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF WEST SHORE.
THIS IS SOUTH ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THE SUBJECT SITE.
THEN THIS IS EAST.
THIS IS ON TRASK.
SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED.
AND THAT IS ANOTHER VIEW EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE NORTH ON
TRASK.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST CIRCLING BACK AROUND, THIS IS NORTH OF
THE SUBJECT SITE.
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND THAT IS MULTIFAMILY LOCATED
FURTHER NORTH.
SO THE -- ON THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, THERE ARE CHANGES THAT
ARE LISTED TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THEY ARE VERY MINOR.
CHANGE THAT HAS TO BE MADE.
APPLICANT HAS TO ADD ONE WAIVER TO THE SITE.
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS ARE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT
BUT THE APPLICANT DOES NOT NEED TO LIST THOSE IN THE FINAL
SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THEY ONLY NEED TO ADD THEIR CURRENT REQUESTED WAIVERS.
I PROVIDED -- IN THE UPDATED REVISION SHEET THAT INCLUDES
THAT.
SO FOR THE RECORD, THE APPLICANT WILL BE CLEAR WHAT CHANGES
TO MAKE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT.
AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
07:03:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO QUESTIONS.
JUST A COMMENT.
I AM GLAD THAT THE PHOTOS WERE SO DETAILED BECAUSE IF WE ALL
NOTICE THE ROADS.
THEY ARE SO BAD.
I COME THROUGH HERE ALL THE TIME.
SO IF MOBILITY IS LISTENING, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION,
THIS NORTH A, B, GRAY, ALL THE WAY UP EAST AND WEST IS
TERRIBLE.
AND THEY NEED REPAVING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:03:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
TURN TO OVER.
07:03:38PM >>ERIN MAHER:
ERIN MAHER, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I AM GOING TO SPEAK OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO NATURAL
RESOURCES OF THE CODE.
NATURAL RESOURCES DID FIND THE SITE PLAN CONSISTENT.
THEY DID ELIMINATE THE VEHICULAR USE AREA BACK HERE.
AND THEY ARE PROVIDING TOTAL OF 12 TYPE 1 TREES ON THE SITE
NOW.
AND THE REQUIRED CODE TREES ARE 11.
THEN THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING ADDITIONAL TREES THAT AREN'T
TYPE 1 FOR A TOTAL OF 20 TREES ON THE SITE.
SO THEY ARE REALLY GOING BEYOND THAT.
THEY HAVE REMOVED THE WAIVER FOR THE GREEN SPACE.
SO THEY ARE EXCEEDING THAT BY 2,000 SQUARE FEET NOW.
THEY ARE REQUIRED AROUND 8,000.
AND THEY HAVE JUST OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
THEY DO STILL REQUIRE WAIVERS FOR THESE TWO NONHAZARDOUS
GRAND TREES IN THE BACK.
THE PRUNING WILL BE ADVERSE FOR THIS ONE IF THEY WERE TO
PRESERVE IT.
AND THIS ONE IS RIGHT -- A COUPLE OF FEET FROM THIS UNIT 7.
SO WITH THAT, WE FOUND THE PROJECT CONSISTENT BECAUSE THEY
DID ELIMINATE A WAIVER FOR GREEN SPACE.
AND THEY CAN PROVIDE MUCH MORE TYPE 1 TREES ON THE SITE.
THAT'S IT.
07:04:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
YES, MA'AM.
MISS DOCK ARE YOU COMING -- OH.
ALL RIGHT, SO THAT IS THEIR REVISED REVISION SHEET, CORRECT?
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:05:09PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
SUBJECT SITE AGAIN IS HERE REPRESENTED WITH THE
RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATION WHICH IS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE
SOUTH AND FURTHER WEST OF THE SITE.
THE MAGENTA COLOR ARE THE REGIONAL MIXED USE-100 AND ACROSS
THE STREET IS THE RESIDENTIAL-20.
THE SITE DOES INTERFACE WITH COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES AN
SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES ARE TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF
THIS SITE.
AND GIVEN THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, PLANNING
COMMISSION FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED PD IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING AREA AND BELOW THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATION.
THE DESIGN FOLLOWS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GUIDANCE TO THE
DEFENSE SIGN FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
AS UNITS ONE THROUGH FIVE ARE ORIENTED TOWARD TRASK STREET.
UNITS 6-13 ARE ORIENTED TOWARD WEST NORTH A STREET AND
CREATES A PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENTS.
WHILE THE UNITS TOWARD THE REAR WHICH ARE 14-21 ARE
INTERNAL, THERE IS A SIDEWALK THAT IS PROVIDED WHICH
CONNECTS TWO OF THE ADJACENT SIDEWALKS ALONG THE
RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
OVERALL, THE REQUEST SUPPORTS THE CITY'S HOUSING POLICY
BUSINESS ADDING ADDITIONAL HOUSING WITHIN THE WEST SHORE
PALMS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE REQUEST WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL SERVICES
AND AMENITIES ALONG WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND ALSO WEST
SHORE.
AND COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE.
07:06:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ALL RIGHT, APPLICANT.
07:06:48PM >> HELLO, ROB ROSNER, FLORIDA DESIGN CONSULTANTS.
AND ROSE FROM DEVELOPMENT.
I WANTED TO FIRST THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GET IT
RIGHT.
AND I WANTED TO SHARE A FEW THINGS HERE.
SO AS THEY MENTIONED HERE, GOOD THINGS WE DID.
GAVE US THE TIME TO DO WAS THAT WE REMOVED THE INTERNAL
ROADWAY FOR THE COURTYARD AND ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE.
WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD ABOUT ONE.
USING THE ALLEY FOR THE GARAGES.
GREAT IDEA.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US DO THAT.
ALLOWS USES TO ELIMINATE THREE WAIVERS AND BETTER USE OF THE
LAND AND MORE EFFICIENT OF PROVIDING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT
OF DENSITY WITHIN A NICE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN JUST AS -- AS STATISTICS BECAUSE WE ADDED EXTRA
GREEN SPACE.
WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND BY 25% AND ON THE AMOUNT OF TREES
AT 81% OVER WHAT WAS REQUIRED.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT.
JUST AS LAST -- SINCE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WAS CONSISTENT
ALL THE WAY ACROSS, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
07:08:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
YES, MA'AM.
07:08:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST GREAT JOB.
REALLY IMPRESSIVE LISTENING TO CONCERNS AND JUST LOOKING AT
IT.
AND IT IS JUST SO MUCH GREENER.
I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE -- SEEING WHAT IS SURROUNDING IT,
IT IS VERY SIMILAR IN STYLE.
IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN ALL BE VERY PROUD OF.
THE GREEN, THE TREES.
ING SO TO BE PROUD OF.
07:08:48PM >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR GETTING THIS DONE IN AN
AMOUNT OF TIME.
STEPHANIE AND SAM AND LA SON WHO AND THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF.
07:09:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
07:09:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TWO MORE UNITS.
07:09:05PM >> VERY MUCH A WIN-WIN.
07:09:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MUCH MORE DELIBERATE LOOKING AND FITS THAT
PARCEL.
YEAH, SOMETIMES OUR BELLIGERENCE PAYS OFF.
SO CONGRATULATIONS, THANK YOU.
07:09:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
07:09:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:09:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
07:09:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING THE REVISED
REVISION SHEET.
07:09:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
READ NUMBER 9, REZ 25-13, ORDINANCE
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4061 AND 4611 NORTH A STREET IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED OF
ZONING CLASSIFICATION RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE
DATE AND VARIOUS REVISION SHEETS.
07:09:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
07:10:02PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AN ADOPTION IS JUNE 5, 2025 AT 10 A.M. AT OLD
CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602.
07:10:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
07:10:16PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATES IT.
07:10:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COMPLETES OUR AGENDA.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, ANY NEW BUSINESS?
07:10:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, SIR.
MY ELECTRIC BILL, BUT I LEFT IT AT THE HOUSE.
07:10:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
07:10:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
07:10:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO, SIR, NOTHING.
07:10:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY GOODNESS.
I AM PICKING UP FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
I GOT A LOT.
FIRST FOUR OF THEM ARE NOT MINE.
THEY ARE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
A MOTION A REQUEST FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING AN
ADORATION HEARING TA-CPA 25-05, 07, 08, 10, 11, 12, AND THE
CITY OF TAMPA FY '25-'26 SCHEDULE PROJECT UPDATE ON SEPTEMBER
5, 2025 AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY
CLERK FOR FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:11:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CLENDENIN AND SECONDED FROM
VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:11:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SETTING AN ADOPTION HEARING ON OCTOBER 23,
2025 AT 5:01 P.M. AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR A FORM OF NOTICE
ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
07:11:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
YES, SIR.
07:11:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALSO FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SETTING A TRANSMITTING HEARING FOR 04, 06 ON OCTOBER 23,
2025 AT 5:01 P.M. AND PROVIDE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WITH THE
CITY COLLECT FOR THE FORM OF NOTICE TO ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
07:11:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
07:11:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:11:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ADOPTION HEARING 25-04 AND 06 ON JANUARY
29, 2026 AT 5:01 AND PROVIDE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR THE
CITY CLERK FOR NOTICE TO ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
07:12:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
07:12:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:12:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REST OF THEM WILL BE MORE INTERESTING.
SO AS THOSE -- THIS PROBABLY WILL RING KIND OF TRUE OF SOME
CURRENT EVENTS.
I HAVE BEEN SINCE A CERTAIN THING HAPPENED IN CITY COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO REQUEST A RESPONSE BY JUNE 8 FROM
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT DESCRIBING THE CITY COUNCIL'S
OBLIGATION AND WHAT PROCESS SHOULD COUNCIL FOLLOW WHEN IT IS
PRESENTED WITH SUBSTANTIVE ALLEGATIONS OF WRONGDOING WITHIN
CITY GOVERNMENT OR CITY STAFF.
IN OTHER WORDS, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST -- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
-- I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY INTERPRETATION OF
WHAT IT OUR LEGAL OBLIGATION WHEN THOSE ALLEGATIONS COME
BEFORE US.
ARE WE -- ARE WE REQUIRED TO REACT TO THOSE?
ARE WE REQUIRED TO ACT ON THAT BASED ON OUR INVESTIGATORY
RESPONSIBILITIES OR BY CHARTER OR BY LAW?
07:13:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU SAID JUNE 8.
WE HAVE A JUNE 5 REGULAR MEETING.
07:13:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY, JUNE 5.
07:13:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
07:13:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
07:13:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
07:13:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE VIDEO FROM LAST
WEEK.
CURRENT EMPLOYEE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM SINCE
THEN --
07:13:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DETAILS BECAUSE
CREATE ANY LIABILITY.
07:13:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BY THE WAY, I NEVER SPOKEN TO HIM BEFORE,
DESPITE THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
HE WAS ALLEGING FRAUD.
AND THE ONLY -- SO IF SOMEBODY -- IF AN EMPLOYEE -- I HAVE
HAD EMPLOYEES -- PAST EMPLOYEES ALLEGE FRAUD TO ME DIRECTLY
AND I HAVE GIVEN IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
THE -- THE -- I HAVE GIVEN IT TO CHIEF OF STAFF IN THE PAST.
AND HE -- LIKE HE DID THE OTHER DAY WENT TO THE AUDIT
DEPARTMENT.
THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT MANAGES PROCESSES, NOT CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY.
ONLY GROUP IN THE CITY THAT LOOKS AT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS
THE TPD.
BUT BECAUSE THE TPD REPORTS TO THE MAYOR, I -- AND THE CITY
ATTORNEY REPORTS TO THE MAYOR.
ONLY CHOICE WE HAVE IS TO GO OUTSIDE.
WHATEVER THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS, WE NEED TO GO TO THE STATE
ATTORNEY.
I REVIEWED THE PROCESS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE STATE.
IF THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS LIKE THIS, WE SOMEHOW HAVE TO HAVE
A CONDUIT TO THE STATE ATTORNEY FDLE TO GO AROUND.
NOT TRYING TO BE PUNITIVE OF AN ADMINISTRATION, BUT WE HAD
ISSUES LIKE HANNA AVENUE AND OTHERS.
AND I HAD RECOMMENDED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T TAKE IT
UP AT THE TIME.
SO MANY ALLEGATIONS, I SAID GO TO THE STATE ATTORNEY AND
NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE WRONG, CLEAR EVERYONE.
AND CLEAR THE CLOUD.
MOST OF THE TIME IT WILL.
BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS OUTSIDE.
IF WE GO TO A PROCESS ANALYSIS AND WE SAY, OKAY, EVERYTHING
IS CORRECT.
WE ARE NOT FULFILLING OUR DUTY TO THE CITY, I THINK.
07:14:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I BELIEVE
THAT BETWEEN OUR COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND THE CITY ATTORNEYS.
IF WE -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COVERED IN THIS
WORLD OF POLITICIANS GO REGULAR MOVED FROM OFFICE AND
WHATNOT.
I BELIEVE IF WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY'S INTERPRETATION OF WHAT
OUR -- I CAN'T SAY FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY BUT THAT
REFERENCES MONEY.
BUT LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY, IF I HAVE THAT IN MY HAND, AN
ATTORNEY'S LETTER, THAT WOULD COVER ME IN MY RESPONSIBILITY.
FOR A CITY ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS -- REPRESENTS THE CITY
OF TAMPA AND REPRESENTS US.
SO -- I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT STANDS ON ITS OWN.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN MY HAND FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY
TO HAVE THAT SO WE ABSOLUTELY KNOW BLACK AND WHITE FROM A
LEGAL INTERPRETATION FROM THE ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS THE
CITY WHAT OUR -- WHAT OUR PROCESS IS AND WHAT OUR
RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
07:15:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HURTAK, VIERA, MIRANDA.
07:15:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY ONLY THING IS, I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO GET
ONE FROM OUR ATTORNEY.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE A COMMENT FROM BOTH THE CITY ATTORNEY
AND CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
07:15:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION?
07:16:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
07:16:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTS ITS MUNICIPAL
CORPORATION.
UNDER THE CHARTER, THE CITY ATTORNEY IS THE FINAL LEGAL
DESIGNATION.
I SUGGEST THAT YOU SEE WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS TO SAY.
THEN YOU CAN DEAL HOW YOU WISH TO GO FORWARD.
07:16:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
07:16:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
07:16:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I SECONDED IT.
I AM GLAD TO DO IT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF A FEW THINGS WHICH IS -- I AM GLAD
THIS IS A WRITTEN REPORT AND NOT -- THIS IS WRITTEN,
CORRECT?
07:16:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
07:16:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT IS FINE BECAUSE THIS IS VERY, VERY
CAREFUL --
07:16:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN A LETTER.
07:16:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE WITH SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
WHEN YOU GET INVOLVED IN A SITUATION NO MATTER HOW WELL
MEANING YOU ARE.
AND SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO.
BECOME A PERSON WITH KNOWLEDGE IF LITIGATION SOMETHING
FORTHCOMING.
SUBJECT TO SUBPOENAS AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
SOMETIMES YOU GO THE TO THE DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO AND BE
CAREFUL.
WHEN IT COMES TO OUR STAFF INCLUDING OUR CITY ATTORNEYS.
AND OUR CITY ATTORNEYS I HAVE FULL FAITH IN THEM ETHICALLY
THEY ARE GOOD AND DECENT PEOPLE AND I HAVE NO CHALLENGE OF
GOING WITH THEM AND MR. SHELBY WHO IS A VERY ATTORNEY AND
DECENT PERSON AND SO FORTH.
I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT AS A WRITTEN REPORT BECAUSE THEY
HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
NUMBER ONE, JUST ON INDIVIDUAL SITUATIONS AND NUMBER TWO,
TAKING A SITUATION AND ESCALATING IT AND ESCALATING IT TO
THE POINT WHERE THINGS SPREAD OUT OF CONTROL.
SO, AGAIN, MY SECOND REMAINS.
07:17:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
FOR A JUNE 5th WRITTEN REPORT.
07:17:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE REST OF THESE -- I HAD INITIALLY
CONCEPTUALLY -- YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL NOW FOR TWO
YEARS.
JUST GOT ELECTED AND SOME OF YOU FOR A DAY OR TWO LONGER.
I -- I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF SYSTEMIC ISSUES.
SO -- A LOT TIMES IT GOES BACK TO CHARTER.
I WAS INITIALLY SPITBALLING AN IDEA -- WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER
ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED.
AND I KNOW WE DID PASS SOME CHARTER AMENDMENTS RECENTLY.
SO I -- I WAS GOING TO BRING THESE AS MOTIONS TONIGHT.
INSTEAD WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THROW THESE OUT UP
AGAINST THE WALL.
BECAUSE I ALSO WANT EVERYBODY'S INPUT ON IT.
THESE ARE JUST IDEAS.
MAYBE THEY ARE GOOD IDEAS.
MAYBE THEY ARE BAD IDEAS.
MAYBE THEY ARE -- YOU ALL SPRAY MORE IDEAS OR LESS IDEAS.
BUT I AM GOING TO READ THESE OF WHAT I HAVE WOULD HAVE
INITIALLY PROPOSED AND LET THEM LINGER FOR A BIT AND MAYBE
REVISIT THEM AT A FUTURE DATE.
07:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD.
07:18:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHARTER
AMENDMENT ON THE BALLOT THAT WILL GIVE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THE ABILITY TO REMOVE A DIRECTOR AND ABOVE LEVEL STAFF WITH
A SUPERMAJORITY OF FIVE VOTE OF COUNCIL.
07:18:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AT THE VERY LEAST THE CITY ATTORNEY --
BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS REALLY THE POWER OF THE CITY.
AND WHOEVER CONTROLS THE CITY ATTORNEY CONTROLS IT.
AND -- AND AN ATTORNEY -- IT IS NOT WHETHER IT IS ETHICAL OR
NOT.
IT IS NOT WHETHER SOMEBODY IS A GOOD PERSON OR NOT.
AN ATTORNEY -- I HAD LONG CONVERSATION WITH MARTY AND ANDREA
AND BOTH OF THEM.
ALL DEPENDS ON THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHO -- WHICH CLIENT YOU
ARE REPRESENTING AND WHAT THAT CLIENT WANTS.
WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR -- SAYS IN THE CHARTER THAT THE
CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTS CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, BUT WE
NEED TO PUT -- IF -- WE CAN'T FIRE PERSON, THEN WE ACTUALLY
HAVE NO POWER.
07:19:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS THE INTENT.
07:19:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OFFICIAL MOTION?
07:19:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT IS NOT A MOTION.
07:19:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
07:19:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WON'T IN THE FUTURE USE THE TERM MOTION.
07:19:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS IDEA ONE.
07:19:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE GIVETH AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKETH
AWAY.
07:19:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I KNOW THE CHARTER IS PRETTY CLEAR ON IT --
YOU WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THE CHARTER.
I AM SORRY.
IT HAS BEEN A DAY.
07:19:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT EVEN LATE THOUGH.
07:20:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO READ THESE TO US.
BUT MR. SHELBY, AFTER HE DOES SO, SO THAT WE CAN THINK ON
THEM, IS THERE A WAY HE CAN GIVE THEM TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN
GET COPIES OF THESE IDEAS SO WE CAN THINK ABOUT THEM?
07:20:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK ONCE I READ IT, I CAN DISTRIBUTE
WHAT I READ.
07:20:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, BUT I
AM VERY VISUAL, AND I WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT AND READ IT.
07:20:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE WHOLE PURPOSE.
I WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE.
THE NEXT FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE WITH
A CHARTER AMENDMENT TO ALLOW COUNCIL TO HAVE AMENDMENTS.
AND DO MID-CYCLE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS.
I THINK WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS IN THE PAST AND
WE GET ONE BITE AT THE APPLE.
07:20:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE CAN DO BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
07:20:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT INITIATED BY COUNCIL BUT BY THE
ADMINISTRATION.
07:20:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND IT IS STILL -- WE JUST REALLOCATED SOME
MONEY FROM '24.
AND I WENT TO ASK THE DEPARTMENT HEAD ABOUT IT, AND THEY
SAID THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THE $1.8 MILLION FOR THE FOLKS THAT REALLY NEED OUR HELP.
AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS $1.8 MILLION.
AND THAT IS NOT OKAY.
07:21:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS FAIR, YES, SIR.
07:21:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO A LONG DISCUSSION.
AND BOTH ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND I READ THE
CHARTER ALL THE TIME.
I DON'T RECALL THIS IS A LIMIT IN THE CHARTER.
MAY BE A LIMIT IN SOME RULES OR PRACTICE OR NEXT BETWEEN THE
ADMINISTRATION, BUT FOUR YEARS AGO, THE ADMINISTRATION
STARTED SAYING, ALL CITY COUNCIL IS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THE
POWER OF THE MAYORS.
IN FACT BECAUSE -- IN THIS BEFORE -- BEFORE HURTAK GOT ON
AND TWO OTHERS ON THE CHARTER REVIEW.
BECAUSE WE UNDERSTOOD THE CHARTER, WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE
REAL POWERS OF COUNCIL WERE AND ALL WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS
EXERCISE THEM.
IF THEY WILL VOTES ON COUNCIL OR MISINTERPRETED THE CHARTER --
07:22:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOUR VOTES ON COUNCIL.
07:22:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF A MAYOR IS FRIENDLY WITH FOUR PEOPLE ON
COUNCIL, THEY CAN GET FOUR VOTES.
07:22:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS NOT FAIR.
07:22:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS COUNCIL.
07:22:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE MAYOR DOESN'T CONTROL OUR VOTES.
07:22:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALWAYS HAPPENED IN COUNCILS THAT MAYORS TRY
TO CONTROL VOTES.
THE MAYOR IS ALLOWED TO LOBBY US, BUT WE ARE NOT ALLOW TO
LOBBY EACH OTHER BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE.
YOU KNOW I DON'T GET CALLS VERY OFTEN FROM THE MAYOR.
07:22:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I DON'T.
I ACTUALLY DON'T.
07:22:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MANY PEOPLE ON HERE HAVE SAID -- MANY PEOPLE
ON HERE HAVE SAID THEY HAVE.
I GET IT.
07:22:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANTED TO THROW THIS OUT HERE AND GET AN
INTERPRETATION ON THAN WHAT WAS OUT THERE.
THE NEXT ITEM FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE
FOR A CHARTER AMENDMENT ON THE BALLOT FOR SUBPOENA ON THE
CHARTER.
RIGHT NOW WEST COAST ABILITY BUT DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO
FIND IT.
RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE YOU HAVE TO HAVE MONEY TO
ESTABLISH THAT.
IF WE HAVE THAT IN THE CHARTER BUT WE DON'T HAVE BE ABILITY
TO DO IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVEN REQUIRES DISCUSSION.
07:23:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE ALSO NEED TO BE ABLE TO HIRE THE VECTOR
OURSELVES.
I THINK THAT IS PART OF -- IDEALLY THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY.
RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T EVEN HIRE -- WE CAN'T HIRE A PARALEGAL
THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL.
07:23:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
INTERESTING.
WE DID RESEARCH, AND I WOULD LIKE MR. SHELBY TO TALK ABOUT
THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT.
LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE WITH CHART AIR
AMENDMENT THAT LIMITS THE USE OF INVESTIGATIVE POWERS TO
ONLY LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
ACTUALLY MY UNDERSTANDING -- AND I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THE
CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS.
BUT AN INTERPRETATION ON THE CHARTER.
WHEN I READ IT -- WESTERN RAID THE CHARTER SAYS.
AND IT SAYS BASICALLY AS WE SEE FIT, AS FAR AS INVESTIGATIVE
POWERS.
I JUST -- THIS IS JUST REALLY KIND OF ALMOST LIKE A
CLARIFYING THE INTENT OF THAT PARAGRAPH.
LAST THING IS -- AND FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO DRAFT AN
AMENDMENT FOR A CHART AMENDMENT FOR A VOTE BY COUNCIL FOR
ANY BONDING OVER $10 MILLION.
AND THIS IS -- THIS IS -- CORRECTLY -- MAYBE I AM JUST
DELUSIONAL, BUT THIS IS WHAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN HAPPENING.
AND THIS IS REALLY CONFUSED ME.
SO WE PASSED SPENDING AND THEN THAT IS IMPLIED PERMISSION
FOR BOND SOMETHING IN LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE.
WHEN DOES BONDING ISSUE COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING A MAJOR BONDING ISSUE COME BEFORE
COUNCIL IN THE TWO YEARS I SCANT BEFORE COUNCIL.
07:24:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GENERALLY THE BONDING -- BE FROM MY
UNDERSTANDING FROM MR. ROGERO, THEY DO SHORT-TERM BONDS AND
EVENTUALLY ROLL THEM INTO LONG-TERM BOND AND THAT IS WHEN IT
COMES TO US.
07:25:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID A LONG-TERM
BOND.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN WE DID ONE.
ITS BEEN HERE TWO YEARS AND I DON'T REMEMBER DOING ONE.
07:25:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE LAST ONE -- I THINK THERE WAS ONE IN '22
POSSIBLY.
07:25:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE WENT THROUGH A WEIRD PROCESS WITH FIRE
STATION 24 AND FLEET MAINTENANCE.
WE VOTED ON THE CAPACITY OF THE BOND FOR IT.
I HAD TRIED DO A MOTION ON TAXATION FOR THE PROJECTS AND
OTHERS.
AND SO THEN WE -- WE HAD THE.3 I THINK IT WAS.
AND DECIDED THE BOND.
AND KIND OF A WEIRD PROCESS.
07:25:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KIND OF FEEL LIKE A FOOL BECAUSE I WAS
NEW AT THE TIME, AND SAID I WILL VOTE FOR THE PROJECT BUT
NOT VOTE FOR THE BONDING.
WHEN I VOTED FOR THE PROJECT, AND I BELIEVE I VOTED FOR THE
BONDING.
I THINK WE NEED -- I THINK THIS IS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE
CITIZENS AND SOME OF YOU REALIZE THIS TOO, I THINK WE NEED
TO GO ON RECORD SAYING IF I AM GOING TO PROPOSE
SPENDING X, Y AND Z, I HAVE TO SAY YES TO BONDING X, Y
AND Z.
TAKING ACCOUNTABILITY TO BORROW MONEY TO FUND THE PROGRAM IF
I DON'T THINK WE ARE ON RECORD DOING THAT.
07:26:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
07:26:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY PROBLEM IS THEY COME FORWARD AND THE
ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO SPENDS THIS MUCH MONEY ON A
PROBABLY, BUT THEN FIVE MONTHS TO 12 YEARS LATER -- OR 12
MONTHS LATE, IT'S DOUBLE OR TRIPLE OF AMOUNT.
SO I THINK THAT IS THE TRICK THERE.
07:26:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK IF -- I THINK WITH THE $10
MILLION, THAT KIND OF BINDS THAT UP A LITTLE BIT.
THIS MY -- THIS IS MY HEARTBURN ON SOME OF THIS.
I JUST DESCRIBED.
WE VOTE FOR A PROJECT.
AND VERY CLEARLY.
I WILL SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BUT NOT SUPPORT THE BORROWING OF
MONEY AND THEY ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO GIVE THE MONEY
BECAUSE GOT LIVE CON SEVERAL AND WE HAD A MILLAGE INCREASE
PROPOSAL THAT WOULD HAVE PAY AS YOU GO.
AND WE CONTINUE TO SPEND -- WE ARE BORROWING ALL OF THIS
MONEY.
I AM CONCERNED OF THE AMOUNT OF BONDING WE ARE DOING IN THE
CITY.
GRAVELY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
AND I -- I THINK THAT -- AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TO DO A LOT
OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND I NEVER AM ONE OF THESE ONES THAT SAY NO BONDING BECAUSE
I GET THE GENERATION OF FINANCING, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO
BE -- I WANT THE QUESTION ASKED AND ANSWERED.
DO YOU WANT TO BOND X NUMBER OF DOLLARS TO PAY FOR THIS
PROJECT.
AND I -- AND I WILL BE VERY CLEAR AND VERY CLEAR FOR COUNCIL
THAT THEY HAVE TO SAY IF WE ARE GOING TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY
OF TAMPA TO BORROW THIS MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS PROJECT.
07:27:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AGREE.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:27:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO THINGS.
WE HAVE FULL NUMBER AND WE KNOW WHAT WILL BE PROPOSED AND
WHAT THE INTEREST WILL BE.
IT WAS ALL IN ONE PLACE UNTIL RECENTLY.
WE ASKED THE QUESTION WHAT PERCENT OF CAPACITY HAVE WE USED
IT IS, LIKE, 38%.
WE KNOW FROM STAFF AS WE GET CLOSER TO 100%, OUR BOND
RATINGS WILL GO DOWN.
WE DON'T KNOW YET WHERE -- WHERE THE RIGHT POINT IS, WHERE
WE NEED TO STOP BOUNDING, SO WE NEED TO DO THAT.
NUMBER TWO, THE ONE BEFORE ON INTERPRETATIONS BY LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON -- ON WHICH -- WHICH CLIENT YOU ARE
WORKING FOR.
BUT, REMEMBER, MAYBE IT WAS BEFORE YOUR TIME A COUPLE OF
YEARS AGO AN INTERPRETATION THAT ONLY THE MAYOR CAN NAME
BUILDINGS AND WE PROVED THAT WAS WRONG.
WE ENDED UP COMING WITH A COMPROMISE WHICH IS FINE.
BUT BEFORE THAT, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE FOUND OUT THAT --
IN 2018, A PRIOR CITY ATTORNEY WROTE A TWO PARAGRAPH MEMO
THAT HIS INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER THAT CITY COUNCIL --
SORRY, ONLY THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN APPROVE SETTLEMENT AND DO
WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THE COUNCIL.
THAT WAS ILLEGAL.
THE CHARTER SAID THE OPPOSITE.
PROVED IT WAS WRONG.
HUNDREDS OF SETTLEMENTS THAT WERE -- THAT WERE NOT
DISCLOSED --
07:29:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW DID YOU PROVE IT WAS WRONG?
CITY ATTORNEY GIVES AN INTERPRETATION.
07:29:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I PAID MY OWN ATTORNEYS TO COME BACK WITH
LEGAL OPINIONS THAT THEY WOULD ARGUE --
07:29:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY WOULD CONCEDE THAT THEY WERE WRONG
BECAUSE TAKE T TO AN OUTSIDE --
07:29:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS ANOTHER BIG PROBLEM I BROUGHT UP IN
THE PAST.
NO PLACE FOR ARBITRATION.
IF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYORS -- MAYOR DON'T AGREE,
UNLIKE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS, THE -- WE DON'T HAVE A
JUDICIAL BRANCH.
LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS NOT A JUDICIAL BRANCH.
SIMPLY GIVING LEGAL ADVICE SAID CLEARLY IN THE CHARTER.
NOT MAKING RULINGS AND JUDGMENTS.
FINAL RULER ON THE LEGAL OPINION BUT THEY ARE NOT -- WHAT
HAPPENED IN THE PAST LIKE 2018, THAT TWO-PARAGRAPH MEMO WAS
HANDED DOWN LIKE LAW LIKE IT WAS A JUDGE'S RULING.
WE NEED A PLACE TO GO TO GET AN OFFICIAL OPINION.
IF YOU LOOK AT -- NOT MUCH CASE LAW ON CITY ATTORNEYS
WORKING WITH MULTIPLE CLIENTS.
NOT THAT ANYBODY DID ANYTHING WRONG OR UNETHICAL BUT A WAY
TO INTERPRET WHO IS THE CLIENT AND -- AND YOU MIGHT GIVE A
DIFFERENT ANSWER OPINION ON WHO THE CLIENT IS.
07:30:19PM >> WE HAD THIS SITUATION UP WITH THE CITIZENS -- THE
CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD AND THE POLICE.
BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY HA ONE OPINION.
THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD A DIFFERENT OPINION WHO COULD CREATE
THE BOARDS AND WHATNOT, BUT ANYWAYS, SEVERAL INSTANCES.
YES, MA'AM.
07:30:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE PART THEIR CONCERNS ME ABOUT THAT
PARTICULAR RULING OR JUST -- ATTORNEY'S -- THE CITY
ATTORNEYS DECISION WAS IT WASN'T SHARED WITH COUNCIL.
IT WAS JUST KIND OF FILED AND DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
SO THAT WAS THE BIGGER CONCERN.
07:30:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER THING IS, THEY WENT TO -- ON THIS
-- IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WENT TO GO WHEN YOUNG WHO IS A VERY WELL-RESPECTED FORMER
PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA BAR.
THEY ASKED HER OPINION.
THEY PAID $10,000 OR SOMETHING.
BUT THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME ON COUNCIL.
BUT SHE GAVE HER RULING.
BUT THE PLAN IS THAT THEY MADE UP A PROCESS BECAUSE THERE IS
NO PROCESS.
NO PROCESS IN THE CHART THEIR SAYS YOU GO TO A FORMER HEAD
OF THE FLORIDA BAR.
OR THAT YOU GO TO A CERTAIN KIND OF LAWYER.
AND IT DOESN'T SAY NECESSARILY THAT YOU GO TO A JUDGE.
IT WILL BE NICE TO HAVE DEFINED THE PROCESS TO GET THE FINAL
DECISION ON INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER.
07:31:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOUNDS LIKE IF WE CONTINUE TO MOVE
FORWARD.
07:31:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE TO LEAVE IN A FEW MINUTES.
WHY DON'T WE WORKSHOP THIS.
MADE A MOTION NEXT WEEK TO WORKSHOP.
07:31:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THROWING IT OUT THERE AND MAYBE HAVE --
MAYBE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING SOME TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
07:31:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN YOU TYPE THE LIST UP AND GIVE IT TO
MR. SHELBY SO WE CAN ALL HAVE ALL THE WORDING AND GO OVER
IT.
07:31:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TWO MORE QUICK LITTLE THINGS.
ONE IS -- THIS GOES BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HIRING.
A LEARNING LESSON FOR ME.
WE CAN HIRE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE IF WE WANTED TO.
WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET AND SUPERMAJORITY
BECAUSE LET'S SAY WE PASS -- WORK ON THIS BUDGET THIS NEXT
CYCLE.
WE GET -- WE CAN INCLUDE STAFF OR INCLUDE ALLOCATIONS.
IT NEEDS TO HAVE FIVE, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, IF THE MAYOR
VETOES YOU WOULD NEED TO DO THE VETO.
AND START THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE
THE BUDGET LINE FOR X Y OR Z.
NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AND PASS BY FIVE BECAUSE
HAS TO WITHSTAND A VETO.
MAYOR AND ADVISORIES BOARD.
THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GET APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
I DON'T THINK WE GET THOSE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
I DON'T SEE THOSE.
THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
07:32:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
07:32:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A LOT OF THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DONE AT THE
BEGINNING OF HER TERM AND THEY JUST STAY.
I DON'T KNOW I THINK WE NEED -- BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THE
SAME PROBLEMS WITH BOARD AND COMMISSIONS OVERALL.
WE JUST NEED MORE PEOPLE.
AND IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.
TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER SYSTEM.
ALSO, IT'S -- THE -- I MEAN, DIGITALLY, IT IS DEFENSE TO
APPLY.
IT IS STILL LIKE -- CLENDENIN EVEN THE CREATION OF THESE
THINGS.
07:33:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE --
07:33:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS CONVERSATION -- YOU SHOULD HAVE THE
CONVERSATION WITH EVERYBODY HERE.
I MEAN, VIERA SAID EARLIER ABOUT -- ABOUT HAVE IT -- HAVE A
CONGREGATION WITH THE MAYOR AND EVERYBODY HERE.
07:33:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS WHY I AM THROWING IT OUT THERE TO
START THE DISCUSSION.
07:33:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BUT THAT'S HOW MISINTERPRETATIONS HAPPEN.
07:33:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHY I AM NOT MOVING IT AS A MOTION.
07:33:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND IT, WE ARE DISCUSSING IT
WITHOUT THE MOTION.
07:33:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO BEGIN TO START THE DISCUSSION.
07:33:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDER UNDERSTAND.
I AM NOT HERE TO PROTECT NOBODY BUT MYSELF.
07:33:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND I THINK THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL OF MY
SPITBALLING, BRAINSTORMING THROWING SPAGHETTI AGAINST THE
WALL.
07:34:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:34:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
AND THAT LED ME TO ASK -- I HAVE OF A QUESTION FOR MR.
SHELBY.
ARE YOU COMING FORWARD SOON WITH -- WITH INFORMATION ABOUT
THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
IN THE NEXT -- I THINK THIS YEAR.
07:34:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE ORDINANCE.
YOUR CHARTER REQUIRES BE A ORDINANCE THIS YEAR TO START THE
PROCESS.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR BUDGET ANALYST MISS COPESKY IN
TERMS OF BRINGING MONEY INTO THE FY '26 BUDGET WORKING WITH
MIKE PERRY, THE BUDGET OFFICER, TO HAVE THAT MONEY INCLUDED.
AND IS A CERTAIN NUMBER TO HAVE THAT START.
THE ANSWER IS, YES, COUNCIL WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS
AND WE HAVE TO FIND OUT AS WILL THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE
CITY ATTORNEY AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
IT SHOULD BE HAPPENING AS WE APPROACH THE SUMMER.
07:35:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WONDERFUL.
JUST WANTED TO KNOW.
THANK YOU.
07:35:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHEN WILL THAT CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION
CONVENE?
07:35:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A DECISION TO BE MADE.
BEFORE YOU CONVENE IT, YOU HAVE TO STAFF IT.
AND YOUR CHARTER REQUIRES AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY IN
ADDITION TO AN OUTSIDE FACILITATOR THAT HAS TO BE BUDGETED.
07:35:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY APPOINTEE IS RIGHT HERE.
WILLIAM --
07:35:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL YOUR FAULT.
07:35:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS, MA'AM?
YES, SIR.
07:35:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE THING I JUST WANT TO ASK YOUR OPINION.
DAVIS ISLAND HAS BEEN EXPERIENCE AS HORRIFIC SMELL, THE
EASTERN SIDE OF DAVIS ISLAND.
YOU PROBABLY GOTTEN CALLS OF IT.
ERIC AND HIS STAFF -- THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE -- WITH
THE CHEMISTRY OR THE BIOLOGY OF THE WASTE TREATMENT PLANTS.
AND -- AND SOMEBODY -- SOMEBODY IN A TRUCK PUT SOMETHING IN
THAT MESSED UP THE BIOLOGY AND CAUSED A TERRIBLE SMELL.
I AM PARAPHRASING WHAT WAS IN THE REPORT.
ERIC AND HIS STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB COMMUNICATING.
OF COURSE THE PEOPLE ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT IT.
I HAVEN'T CALLED ERIC TODAY BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN OUT AND
MAYBE HE JUST GOT BACK AND I CAN HOLD THIS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH HAVING SOMEBODY COME IN FRONT OF
US SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE ALL AT ONCE WHAT WE ARE DOING
AND WHAT THE TIMELINE IS.
A BUNCH OF E-MAILS AND MIXED INFORMATION GOING TO DIFFERENT
PEOPLE.
I WILL THROW THAT OUT THERE AND MAYBE MAKE A MOTION NEXT
WEEK.
OTHER THING IS THAT THE -- I HAVEN'T SEEN THE VIDEO MYSELF.
AND ALLEGEDLY SOMEBODY IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID THEY
DIDN'T CARE WHAT CITY COUNCIL THOUGHT.
07:36:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
07:36:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND FOLKS ARE VERY CONCERNED OF HOW THE
DRAFT OF THE PLAN HAS CHANGED RADICALLY.
I AM GETTING A BUNCH OF E-MAIL ABOUT THAT.
BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SUBSTANCE OF IT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
A QUICK UPDATE.
MOTION TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY TO RETURN -- I KNOW
WE HAVE A LOT COMING UP BUT WHATEVER THE NEXT MEETING IS FOR
THE NEXT TWO MINUTES.
07:37:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ARE ASKING MARTIN SHELBY.
07:37:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO TELL THE NAME OF THE COUNCIL APPOINTEES
TO THE COMMISSION, THEIR TERM AND RIGHTS --
07:37:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHEN DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS?
MAY 15?
A ONE-WEEK MOTION.
THE MOTION WAS TO DIRECT MR. SHELBY TO COME BACK WITH A LIST
OF -- JUST A BRIEF TWO-MINUTE --
07:37:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTEE,
THEIR TERMS AND RIGHTS IN RELATIONS TO THOSE APPOINTEES.
07:37:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH, MR.
SHELBY.
07:37:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I CAN REQUEST THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
HOW SOON DID YOU SAY YOU NEEDED IT?
I HOPE IT IS NOT A ONE-WEEK MOTION.
07:38:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO WE HAVE A LOT JUNE 15.
07:38:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUNE 5 IS PACKED.
07:38:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT CAN BE A WRITTEN REPORTING IS INITIALLY
AND YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FROM THERE.
07:38:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RAIN REPORT FROM MR. SHELBY FOR JUNE 5.
IS THAT GOOD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:38:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
07:38:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD, MR. SHELBY.
07:38:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONCE THE MINUTES COME OUT.
DO YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE WORDING?
07:38:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, HERE.
07:38:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
ANYTHING ELSE?
07:38:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, TWO OTHER THINGS.
I READ THE ARTICLE THAT THE "TIMES" WROTE IN THE BREAK OF
THE MEETING THIS MORNING.
NUMBER ONE, THE HEADLINE NOW SAYS -- IT'S FUNNY.
THE WHOLE DISCUSSION, THE HEADLINE SAYS MAYOR CASTOR SENT
THIS LETTER.
DID WE SEE THE LETTER OR GO TO THE CHAIR?
07:38:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ONLY CAME TO THE CHAIR.
07:38:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WOULD BE NICE THAT WAS A BACK-UP TO THE
MEETING SO WE KNOWN ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE LETTER SAID, SO APPARENTLY -- I
WILL ASK WITHOUT A MOTION THAT THEY -- THAT THE CHAIR OR
CITY ATTORNEY CIRCULATE THAT TO US BECAUSE APPARENTLY THE
MEDIA HAS IT AND WE DON'T.
MAYOR CHASTISING US AND WALKING INTO A MEETING THAT WE
DIDN'T KNOW SHE HAD DONE THAT SECOND THING.
THE CHIEF OF STAFF SENT ME AN E-MAIL IN AFTERNOON ASKING TO
MEET TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS -- ON DISCUSSING THE -- THE
CULTURAL ISSUES.
AND HE AND I MET ONCE SIX WEEKS AGO ON IT. AND HE WANTS TO
MEET AGAIN.
I DID RESPOND TO HIM, AND I SAID THAT I THINK THAT ADAM
SMITH NEEDS TO RETRACT THINKS STATEMENT TO ME TO THE MEDIA
AND APOLOGIZE PUBLICLY.
COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, BY LAW, IS NOT ALLOWED TO ENGAGE
IN POLITICS.
AN MAKING OFFENSIVE STATEMENTS OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ISN'T
GOOD POLITICS.
IF THE MAYOR WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING OFFENSIVE.
IF THE MAYOR WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING OFFENSIVE, SHE CAN
ALLOWED TO DO IT BECAUSE SHE IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
LIKE IF A KID IS ON A PLAYGROUND.
AND ONE KID PUNCHES THE OTHER KID.
KID THAT GOT PUNCHED SAY HEY, YOU JUST PUNCHED ME.
KID THAT PUNCHED SAID, "YOU ARE A POOPY HEAD" AND THIS
PLAYGROUND MENTALITY.
WHAT IS HAPPENING SOMEBODY IN THE ADMINISTRATION OR
COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT THINK THESE CHILDISH STRATEGIES IS
WORKING BUT ERODING TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY FOR ALL YOU HAVE
US BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T TRUST THE PROCESS.
WE NEED TO FIX THE CULTURE OF THE CITY FROM THE GROUND UP.
WE NEED TO CREATE A POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE FEEL
HAPPY TOE GO TO WORK AND THEY KNOW THEY WILL NOT BE
RETALIATED AGAINST IF THEY GIVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.
07:40:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO RECONFIRM SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU
REMINDED ME BECAUSE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION STATEMENT
MADE.
I KNOW WE SAID THIS LAST TIME AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE KEEP HEARING THAT THIS THEY ARE
GOING TO CREATE THE CODE THAT THEY ARE SCREAMING REALLY DOES
NOT CONFORM WITH WHAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR.
CONTINUE TO ASK FOR BONUS DENSITY IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
AREA.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THEY ARE LISTENING, DON'T WASTE YOUR
TIME.
DON'T THINK YOU WILL COME TO THIS COUNCIL AND PRESENTS US
WITH LAND CODE THAT -- THAT GIVE -- THAT GIVES AWAY -- GIVES
AWAY DENSITIES.
GIVES AWAY PRODUCTS, COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
DON'T EVEN CONSIDER IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE DISAGREES WITH ME ON THAT.
07:41:37PM >>CATE WELLS:
CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
ON THAT NOTE, WHILE I HAVE NOT BEEN VERY INVOLVED WITH THE
PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR THE LAST YEAR OR
MORE, WHEN I LEARN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE LAST
MEETING DIRECTED STAFF TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE FUTURE LAND
USE ELEMENT, I REQUESTED PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF TO
INCLUDE BACK-UP DOCUMENTS SO THAT IT WOULD BE EASY FOR CITY
COUNCIL TO SEE THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE THAT WENT TO THE
PLANNING COMMISSION VERSUS THE LANGUAGE THAT IS GOING TO BE
COMING OUT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THEIR MEETING, I UNDERSTAND, IS ON THE 12th OF THIS
MONTH.
SO I -- KNOWING HOW LONG THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ON AND
ALL OF THE INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED
IN THE PROCESS.
I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR CITY COUNCIL TO SEE THE
LANGUAGE THAT RESULTED FROM ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS AND NOT
JUST THE FINAL LANGUAGE COMING OUT OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING.
07:42:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MISS WELLS, THAT IS BRILLIANT.
07:42:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HURTAK, MIRANDA AND CARLSON.
07:42:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WANT TO CAUTION US.
THEY ARE A RECOMMENDING BODY.
WE ARE THE ONES THAT MAKE THE RULES.
NO NEED TO IT -- NO NEED TO GET INTO IT.
LIKE, I WATCHED THE VIDEO.
THEY CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT.
THEY CAN SAY -- BUT THEY -- THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT.
IT IS OUR JOB TO GO BACK, TO GO THROUGH, TO USE OUR
WONDERFUL STAFF, WHO KNOW WHAT IS WE WANT.
AND THAT IS WHY MISS WELLS ASKED FOR THE OTHER COPY.
07:43:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE WASTING MONEY AND TIME.
07:43:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN THAT'S NOT -- ULTIMATELY, NOT OUR
PROBLEM.
OUR PROBLEM IS TO DO WHAT WE PRETTY MUCH UNANIMOUSLY AGREE
ON FROM CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD FROM THIS DAIS THAT --
THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO FOCUS ON -- ON PEOPLE IN THE
COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT.
ULTIMATELY WE ARE THE ONES THAT MAKE THE POSITION.
WE NEED TO BE LESS WORRIED WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING AND
DO OUR WORK.
07:43:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BLEW MY MIND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE
STUFF AWAY.
GIVE RIGHTS AWAY.
07:43:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, WE ARE THE ONES -- WE ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR READING THE INFORMATION.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT.
AND OUR STAFF IS GREAT IN HELPING US GET THROUGH THAT
INFORMATION.
07:44:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK.
07:44:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS HAVEN'T BEEN DONE SINCE THE '80s.
ANYTHING -- THIS IS JUST A LOT -- THIS IS A HEAVY LIFT.
07:44:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
OUR STAFF IS NOT ALWAYS IN AGREEANCE WITH
THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
A LOT OF TIMES SOMETHING THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH PLANNING
COMMISSION WILL SAYS IT CONSISTENT.
07:44:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT WE OVERALL ARE THE ONES.
WE HAVE TO PUT IN THE WORK.
GOING TO EVERY SINGLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE MEETING --
PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE CAN BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS
GOING ON.
YOU SHOULD KNOW IF YOU DON'T ALREADY, THOSE ARE ALL
RECORDED.
IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THEM, YOU SHOULD.
BECAUSE IT REALLY KEEPS YOU IN TOUCH.
I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE FROM CLARION SOON TOO.
BUT WATCHING THOSE, THE FOLKS CHOSEN FOR THAT ADVISORY
COUNCIL HAS GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT HAS BEEN A REALLY INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
SO -- SO THAT IS -- THOSE PEOPLE ARE DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING
BEFORE WE HAVE DO THE HEAVY LIFT.
07:45:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
07:45:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
CATE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INDULGENCE
COMING UP AND SAYING WHAT YOU SAID AND SO FORTH, BUT DO WE
HAVE ANY SYSTEM IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING THE WAY YOU BUILD
THINGS?
BECAUSE WHAT I SEE COMING.
WE TALK OF THE '820s.
WE ARE STILL LIVING IN THE 20s.
AND I DON'T MEAN 2020, BUT 1920.
WE KEEP BUILDING WHAT TEARS DOWN THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE IT
GOT TORN DOWN AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
AND THE EARTH IS NOT WHAT IT WAS IN 1920s.
IT HAS CHANGED.
ENVIRONMENT HAS CHANGED FROM WHAT I GATHER -- I HOPE IT
NEVER COMES IN WAY, BUT THE BAY OVER THREE DEGREES WARMER
THIS YEAR THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR.
SO WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF HURRICANE, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
AGAIN?
THE SAME BUILDINGS THAT WERE TORN DOWN REBUILT AND WILL BE
TORN DOWN AGAIN BY THE HURRICANES.
AND THE HIGH WATER.
SO I LOOK AT LITTLE AREAS LIKE -- LIKE THE BAHAMAS, PUERTO
RICO, CUBA, ALL THAT.
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
OUT IN THE COUNTRY THEY DO BECAUSE THEY HAVE SHACKS.
BUT IN THE CITY, THEY DON'T BUILD THE WAY WE DO.
07:46:12PM >> ISN'T OUR BUILDING CODE THERE?
07:46:15PM >>CATE WELLS:
A STATEWIDE BUILDING CODE ADOPTED INITIALLY
FOLLOWING HURRICANE ANDREW THAT HIT MIAMI IN THE 1990s.
07:46:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO DRYWALL, CONCRETE.
07:46:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE OF FLORIDA.
NOT US.
07:46:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOBODY IS DOING ANYTHING.
07:46:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH.
07:46:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM.
07:46:33PM >>CATE WELLS:
ONCE YOU ARE CONCLUDED, I WANT TO YOU KNOW
THERE IS A YOUNG GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE -- HIS NAME IS
COOPER BURKE.
A SENIOR AT TAMPA PREP.
HE IS INTERNING WITH OUR OFFICE FOR A FEW WEEKS.
BEFORE HE BREAKS FOR THE SUMMER.
AND HE JUST ACCEPTED AN OFFER FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF OREGON.
SO HE IS GOING TO BE A DUCK.
BUT HE PROMISED TO COME BACK TO TAMPA ONCE HE IS DONE WITH
COLLEGE.
BUT I WAS HOPING MAYBE ONCE WE ARE DONE IF I COULD GET A
PICTURE OF HIM WITH THE COUNCIL.
07:47:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME ON UP.
07:47:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABSOLUTELY.
07:47:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WITH YOU A TONIGHT SAY SOMETHING?
07:47:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE ON TV.
07:47:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
07:47:14PM >> MY NAME IS COOPER BURKE.
A STUDENT AT TAMPA PREP.
LIKE SHE JUST SAID.
I AM GOING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF OREGON AND THIS HAS BEEN
INTERESTING TO WATCH.
HAPPY TO BE HERE.
07:47:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOUR MAJOR.
07:47:27PM >> GLOBAL STUDIES AND ETHNIC STUDIES.
07:47:33PM >> I HAVE TO SHARE YOU THAT PEOPLE DON'T NORMALLY APPLAUD
THEM.
07:47:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BOOS.
07:47:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHY DON'T WE ADJOURN AND THEN DO THAT.
07:47:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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