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THURSDAY, JUNE 12, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:03:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: CRA IS CALLED INTO SESSION.
9:03:27AM OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE HERE TODAY, EVERYONE, ON A VERY, VERY
9:03:30AM SOLEMN DAY FOR THE PASSING OF OUR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE,
9:03:34AM COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON, WHO WILL BE SO TREMENDOUSLY
9:03:37AM MISSED.
9:03:38AM SUCH A SPECIAL PERSON.
9:03:39AM WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE FIRST SIGNIFICANT PART OF TODAY TO
9:03:43AM PAY TRIBUTE TO THIS WONDERFUL WOMAN, A VERY, VERY SPECIAL
9:03:46AM WOMAN.
9:03:46AM IF I MAY, WE'LL START WITH OUR FRIEND, COUNCILWOMAN LYNN
9:03:50AM HURTAK, WHO WILL INTRODUCE BISHOP SCOTT WHO WILL BE DOING
9:03:54AM THE OPENING PRAYER.
9:03:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:03:58AM WE ARE ALL SHOCKED AND SADDENED BY THE LOSS OF COUNCIL
9:04:00AM MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:04:01AM WHILE WE ARE ALL PROCESSING HER PASSING, WE THOUGHT THAT
9:04:04AM BISHOP SCOTT'S EXPERIENCE AS A FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER
9:04:07AM AND PERSONAL FRIEND TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON MADE HIM

9:04:10AM UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO OFFER THE INVOCATION TODAY.
9:04:13AM IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
9:04:15AM PLEDGE.
9:04:21AM >> THANK YOU. THIS MORNING, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND TO ALL
9:04:24AM OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
9:04:26AM COME AND LEAD IN PRAYER.
9:04:28AM AND THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME OF REMEMBERING A GREAT WOMAN IN
9:04:35AM THIS COMMUNITY.
9:04:35AM TODAY, WE PAUSE AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE SUDDEN PASSING OF
9:04:39AM COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON, A DEDICATED PUBLIC
9:04:42AM SERVANT, A CHERISHED LEADER IN OUR CITY.
9:04:46AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON LIVED A LIFE OF PURPOSE, PASSION, AND
9:04:51AM DEEP COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE IN HER DISTRICT AND TO THE
9:04:56AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:04:57AM SHE WAS A TIRELESS ADVOCATE FOR EDUCATION, EQUITY, AND
9:05:02AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
9:05:05AM HER VOICE UPLIFTED OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITY, THE DISTRICT IN
9:05:09AM WHICH SHE SERVED AND HER SPIRIT BROUGHT ABOUT A LIGHT THAT
9:05:12AM EVERY SPACE THAT WAS EMPTY OR FOUND DARKNESS.
9:05:17AM TODAY, MAY HER LEGACY AS AN EDUCATOR, AS A COMMUNITY
9:05:21AM ACTIVIST, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL CONTINUE TO LIVE ON AND
9:05:26AM INSPIRE GENERATIONS TO COME.
9:05:27AM LET US JOIN NOW IN PRAYER FOR THE WORD OF GOD INSTRUCTS US
9:05:32AM IT IS IN TIMES LIKE THESE THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND
9:05:36AM BRING OUR CARES, OUR BURDENS, OUR SORROWS AND OUR PAINS TO

9:05:40AM HIM.
9:05:41AM HE SAID IF WE CAST ALL OUR CARES ON HIM, HE CARES FOR US AND
9:05:45AM HE LOVES US.
9:05:46AM SO TODAY, COUNCIL, AS WE PRAY, WE PRAY FOR HER FAMILY.
9:05:51AM WE PRAY FOR YOU, FOR YOU HAVE LOST A COLLEAGUE AND YOU TOO
9:05:55AM ARE MOURNING.
9:05:56AM YOU TOO ARE GRIEVING.
9:05:57AM THIS CITY IS GRIEVING BECAUSE OF A GREAT INDIVIDUAL.
9:06:01AM NOW, LORD, WE PAUSE TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:06:04AM THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, FIRST OF ALL.
9:06:07AM YOUR GRACE, YOUR LOVE, AND YOUR MERCY.
9:06:11AM AND THEN WE THANK YOU FOR THE LIFE OF COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN
9:06:16AM HENDERSON.
9:06:17AM SHORT, LORD, YET IMPACTFUL.
9:06:20AM TOUCH SO MANY LIVES.
9:06:23AM TOUCH THE LIVES OF CHILDREN.
9:06:24AM TOUCH THE LIVES OF THOSE IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
9:06:27AM AND WE REFLECT UPON HER LIFE AND HER MEMORY TODAY, AND WE
9:06:30AM KNOW THAT SHE IS AT REST.
9:06:32AM SHE'S WITH YOU, AND WE THANK YOU.
9:06:34AM WE PRAY FOR HER FAMILY TODAY.
9:06:36AM WE PRAY FOR HER DAUGHTER TODAY.
9:06:38AM I PRAY THAT YOU BRING ABOUT PEACE AND CALMNESS IN THE MIDST
9:06:42AM OF THE PAIN THAT THEY ARE ENDURING EVEN NOW.
9:06:45AM BUT I'M SO GLAD THAT YOUR WORD SAYS, I WALK THROUGH THE

9:06:49AM VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH I FEAR NO EVIL BECAUSE THOU
9:06:53AM ARE WITH ME.
9:06:54AM ROD AND STAFF SHALL COMFORT ME.
9:06:56AM SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMFORT TODAY, AND WE THANK YOU FOR
9:07:00AM THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY, EMBRACE THEM.
9:07:04AM LIFT THEM, CONSOLE THEM, INSPIRE THEM TO MOVE FORWARD IN
9:07:09AM YOUR GRACE AND IN YOUR LOVE AS THEY TOO WALK THROUGH THIS
9:07:13AM TIME OF GRIEF.
9:07:15AM BLESS OUR CITY, BLESS OUR NATION, BLESS THOSE WHO SERVE AND
9:07:19AM PROTECT US.
9:07:21AM WE SHALL ALWAYS GIVE YOUR NAME GLORY AND PRAISE AND HONOR.
9:07:25AM IN YOUR GREAT NAME THAT WE DO PRAY, AMEN.
9:07:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.
9:07:30AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:07:51AM >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?
9:07:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:07:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:07:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:07:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:07:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:07:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:08:00AM >> HENDERSON.
9:08:03AM >> PRESENT.
9:08:04AM >> PRESENT.

9:08:04AM >> PRESENT.
9:08:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR THAT.
9:08:11AM NEXT, WE HAVE A VIDEO THAT'S GOING TO REMEMBER THE BEAUTIFUL
9:08:15AM LIFE OF THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WHICH WE'LL BEGIN
9:08:20AM TO SHOW.
9:08:58AM [VIDEO SHOWN]
9:10:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR THAT DEEPLY MOVING
9:10:34AM VIDEO ON A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN AND A BEAUTIFUL SOUL.
9:10:37AM NEXT, WE HAVE MAYOR JANE CASTOR, WHO WILL COME FORWARD TO
9:10:41AM SAY SOME WORDS, A WOMAN THAT I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
9:10:44AM HAD A LOT OF ADMIRATION, RESPECT AND LOVE FOR.
9:10:47AM MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
9:10:49AM >> THANK YOU.
9:10:49AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR ARRANGING THIS TRIBUTE TO GWEN
9:10:54AM HENDERSON.
9:10:55AM I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL DEVASTATED AND THAT WE HOLD GWEN AND
9:11:01AM HER FAMILY IN OUR HEARTS AT THIS TIME.
9:11:07AM AND IT'S DIFFICULT.
9:11:08AM IT'S A DIFFICULT TIME FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
9:11:12AM I DO THINK THAT TO DESCRIBE GWEN HENDERSON AS A FORCE OF
9:11:16AM NATURE IS A VERY ACCURATE DESCRIPTION.
9:11:22AM WE WOULD ALL COLLECTIVELY LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT WE EXPERIENCE
9:11:27AM LIFE TO ITS FULLEST, BUT I BELIEVE GWEN WAS AN EXAMPLE, A
9:11:31AM LIVING EXAMPLE OF THAT.
9:11:34AM IF YOU LOOK AT HER LIFE AND THE WAY THAT SHE WAS RAISED IN

9:11:39AM CARVER CITY, LINCOLN GARDENS, WENT TO JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL,
9:11:43AM DEDICATED HER LIFE TO SHAPING THE LIVES OF THE FUTURE OF
9:11:49AM THIS GENERATION, LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE.
9:11:55AM I WOULD TALK TO THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS WHEN I WAS THE
9:11:58AM POLICE CHIEF, AND I WOULD ALWAYS SAY TO THEM THAT IF YOUR
9:12:02AM STUDENTS COME BACK TO YOU AFTER THEY GRADUATE TO SHARE THEIR
9:12:08AM EXPERIENCES, THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, THAT SAYS THAT YOU MADE
9:12:13AM A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THEIR LIFE.
9:12:15AM I CAN'T TELL YOU -- WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY TIME I
9:12:17AM WAS WITH GWEN HENDERSON, THERE WAS NEVER AN EVENT THAT
9:12:23AM SOMEONE DIDN'T COME UP TO HER AND TALK ABOUT THEIR
9:12:26AM EXPERIENCE WITH HER AS A TEACHER AND THE THINGS THAT THEY
9:12:30AM HAD ACCOMPLISHED IN THEIR LIVES.
9:12:31AM AND THEN TO GO FORTH AND BECOME A SUCCESSFUL MEMBER OF CITY
9:12:37AM COUNCIL AND SERVE HER DISTRICT BY MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS
9:12:42AM FOR THE RIGHT REASONS, IT ALWAYS MADE ME SMILE WHEN I SAW
9:12:47AM THINGS OR READ OR HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT GWEN WAS INFLUENCED
9:12:52AM BY CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS.
9:12:54AM AND ANYBODY WHO KNEW, TRULY KNEW GWEN KNEW NOBODY INFLUENCED
9:13:01AM HER.
9:13:02AM SHE MADE HER OWN DECISIONS.
9:13:03AM THAT'S ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT I LOVED ABOUT HER.
9:13:09AM AND THEN TO GO ON AND REALIZE HER LIFE DREAM.
9:13:13AM SHE HAD A DREAM OF OPENING A BOOKSTORE.
9:13:16AM AND TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT CAN IN NO WAY BE

9:13:22AM DIMINISHED.
9:13:24AM THAT IS THE TRUE LEGACY OF HER LIFE, TO GO FROM A POSITION
9:13:27AM WHERE INDIVIDUALS IN HER FAMILY WEREN'T EVEN ABLE TO READ TO
9:13:34AM OPENING A BOOKSTORE THAT IS INFLUENCING SO MANY INDIVIDUALS,
9:13:38AM NOT ONLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN THE TAMPA BAY REGION, BUT ALL
9:13:41AM OVER THE NATION.
9:13:43AM SHE DEFINITELY EXPERIENCED A LIFE WELL LIVED.
9:13:51AM AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS INTELLIGENT, FIERCE, LOYAL, SOMEBODY
9:13:55AM THAT YOU, CONVERSATION YOU HAD IN PUBLIC WAS THE SAME
9:14:00AM CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD IN PRIVATE.
9:14:02AM IF YOU ASKED HER OPINION, HOLD ON BECAUSE YOU WERE GETTING
9:14:06AM HER OPINION.
9:14:07AM AND MAYBE BEHIND THE SCENES THERE WERE A FEW MORE COLORFUL
9:14:11AM WORDS, BUT SHE WAS THE SAME PERSON IN PUBLIC AS SHE WAS
9:14:18AM BEHIND THE SCENES AND IN PERSON.
9:14:19AM I KNOW THAT GWEN, I'M QUITE CERTAIN, HAD HUNDREDS OF
9:14:24AM INDIVIDUALS THAT SHE CALLED FRIEND.
9:14:29AM AND FOR ME, I'M JUST HONORED TO BE ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
9:14:34AM THANK YOU FOR THIS TRIBUTE TO AN INDIVIDUAL THAT LEFT AN
9:14:44AM INDELIBLE MARK ON OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT WE, EACH OF US,
9:14:49AM SHOULD STRIVE TO CARRY ON THAT LEGACY.
9:14:51AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:14:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR REMARKS.
9:14:55AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:14:56AM NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEREAFTER FROM OUR

9:15:00AM FRIEND COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS.
9:15:04AM WE'LL START WITH OUR CHAIR, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN
9:15:06AM START WITH MR. MIRANDA AND GO DOWN THE LINE TO THE EXTENT
9:15:09AM THAT FOLKS WISH TO SPEAK.
9:15:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING.
9:15:19AM THE PHONE CALL I RECEIVED FROM THE MAYOR THAT MORNING WAS A
9:15:22AM PHONE CALL YOU DON'T EVER EXPECT TO RECEIVE.
9:15:25AM IT WAS A GUT PUNCH.
9:15:26AM I TELL PEOPLE IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING LEFT ME AT THAT MOMENT.
9:15:31AM YOU JUST DON'T EXPECT SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM A VIBRANT
9:15:34AM 60-YEAR-OLD WOMAN TO LEAVE US THAT EARLY.
9:15:38AM WE DIDN'T JUST LOSE A COLLEAGUE AND A COWORKER, WE LOST A
9:15:44AM FRIEND.
9:15:44AM I HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE HER AND I RAN FOR THIS
9:15:48AM POSITION TOGETHER.
9:15:49AM WE WERE FRESHMEN ON CITY COUNCIL.
9:15:51AM SO WE WERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND WE WERE WITH EACH OTHER
9:15:54AM JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.
9:15:57AM YOU SEE EVERY SIDE OF SOMEONE.
9:16:05AM IT'S TOUGH TO KNOW SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE SITTING HERE NEXT
9:16:10AM TO US.
9:16:12AM SHE CONTRIBUTES SO MUCH TO THE COUNCIL, TO THE DISCUSSION,
9:16:16AM WHETHER WE AGREED OR WE AGREED TO DISAGREE.
9:16:20AM IT WAS STILL AN AMAZING CONTRIBUTION FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:16:25AM THAT SHE BROUGHT.

9:16:25AM I ECHO WHAT MAYOR CASTOR SAID ABOUT BEING OUT IN THE CITY
9:16:31AM WITH HER.
9:16:33AM EVERY SINGLE TIME, EVERY SINGLE TIME I WAS AROUND TOWN WITH
9:16:36AM HER, AN ADULT WOULD COME UP AND THANK HER FOR WHAT SHE DID
9:16:40AM FOR THEM AS A SCHOOL TEACHER, AS AN EDUCATOR, AND THAT THEY
9:16:43AM WERE WHERE THEY WERE PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF HER AND WHAT SHE
9:16:48AM BROUGHT.
9:16:48AM I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING GWEN HENDERSON IS PROBABLY IN HEAVEN
9:16:52AM RIGHT NOW AND LOOK OUT BECAUSE SHE IS GOING TO REARRANGE THE
9:16:55AM CHAIRS AND SHE'S GOING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS DOING WHAT
9:16:58AM THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
9:17:00AM SHE DON'T PLAY AND SHE'S NOT GOING TO TOLERATE THE NONSENSE.
9:17:07AM I HOPE SHE'S IN A BETTER PLACE AND WE'LL MISS HER DEARLY.
9:17:11AM THANK YOU.
9:17:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:17:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY OFFICE IS RIGHT NEXT TO GWEN'S.
9:17:16AM WE BOTH WENT TO THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL.
9:17:18AM TRY TO OUTDO EACH OTHER ON DRAGON STUFF.
9:17:25AM SHE PUT UP A DRAGON ON HER WALL OUTSIDE, SO I HAD TO FIND ME
9:17:29AM ONE SOMEWHERE TO MATCH HERS.
9:17:32AM WHEN I WOULD FIND SOMETHING THAT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH
9:17:37AM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL, I WOULD GIVE HER ONE AND BUY ONE FOR
9:17:40AM MYSELF.
9:17:40AM LITTLE TRINKETS.
9:17:42AM STUFF LIKE THAT.

9:17:42AM I NEVER MET ANYONE WHO CAME OFF AND TOLD YOU EXACTLY HOW SHE
9:17:48AM FELT WITHOUT INSULTING YOU BUT AT THE SAME TIME TELLING YOU,
9:17:51AM DON'T CROSS THE LINE.
9:17:53AM SHE REMINDED ME OF MY OLD SCHOOLTEACHERS, SCOLD ME IN HIGH
9:17:58AM SCHOOL, AND HERE SHE WAS HERE NOT SCOLDING ME BUT TELLING
9:18:01AM ME, CHARLIE, THE LINE IS HERE, SO DON'T CROSS IT.
9:18:04AM AND SHE WAS FRIENDLY, BUT SHE WAS ALSO TENACIOUS.
9:18:09AM IF SHE FELT SHE WAS RIGHT, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAID, TRY TO
9:18:14AM CONVINCE HER, SHE WOULD TELL YOU WHY SHE WAS RIGHT.
9:18:16AM AND AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION, YOU YOURSELF HELD DOUBT
9:18:21AM THAT YOU WERE WRONG AND SHE WAS RIGHT.
9:18:23AM BUT SHE WAS A PERSON THAT WORKED DILIGENTLY TO HELP HER
9:18:27AM COMMUNITY.
9:18:27AM THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED HER SHOULD REALLY, REALLY BE PROUD OF
9:18:31AM HER.
9:18:32AM SHE DID IT WITH CLASS, WITH SOME HUMOR, BUT ALSO WITH
9:18:35AM RESPECT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN GENERAL.
9:18:37AM ALL.
9:18:38AM NO MATTER WHAT DISTRICT THEY CAME FROM, SHE TREATED THEM ALL
9:18:40AM ALIKE.
9:18:41AM SHE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THE CITY, WITH THE STAFF.
9:18:43AM I WOULD IMAGINE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
9:18:46AM SHE HAD SOMETHING ABOUT HER THAT MOST OF US DON'T HAVE.
9:18:49AM AND SHE WOULD TELL YOU DIRECTLY, NOT INDIRECTLY, WHERE SHE
9:18:54AM STOOD.

9:18:54AM NOT ONLY HERE ON THE DAIS.
9:18:56AM BUT IF YOU HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ANY OTHER THING ASIDE
9:18:58AM FROM GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT SHE
9:19:01AM WAS THE KIND OF PERSON THAT LET YOU KNOW THAT SHE WAS
9:19:04AM WILLING TO DEBATE YOU IF SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS RIGHT.
9:19:09AM YOU CAN'T ASK ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT FROM ANY ELECTED
9:19:12AM OFFICIAL.
9:19:12AM SHE SPOKE WHAT SHE THOUGHT ABOUT EVEN ON THE DAIS, SPOKE ON
9:19:16AM HOW SHE FELT, AND SHE CARED ABOUT THE PUBLIC, BUT SHE CARED
9:19:20AM MORE ABOUT TELLING YOU HOW SHE FELT THAN HOW YOU FELT ABOUT
9:19:23AM HER.
9:19:24AM THAT IS A RARE THING.
9:19:25AM AFRAID, OH, TURN AGAINST ME.
9:19:27AM SHE WASN'T AFRAID TO TELL YOU THAT.
9:19:29AM SHE WASN'T AFRAID TO TELL YOU EYE TO EYE, EXACTLY HOW IT WAS
9:19:33AM AND WHY SHE WAS VOTING THAT WAY.
9:19:35AM I COULD SEE IT WHEN SHE SPOKE FROM THE DAIS.
9:19:38AM SHE WAS FRESH AIR.
9:19:41AM SHE COUNTED EVERYTHING THAT SHE EVER DID.
9:19:45AM SHE STUDIED IT.
9:19:48AM SHE DIDN'T WING ANYTHING.
9:19:49AM EVERYONE, INCLUDING MYSELF LEARNED FROM HER THINGS WE NEVER
9:19:53AM THOUGHT ABOUT.
9:19:54AM I'M SAYING THAT I MISS HER A LOT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE SHE WAS
9:19:58AM OUR NEIGHBOR, BUT I MISS HER A LOT BECAUSE OF HER SINCERITY

9:20:02AM AND THE WAY SHE HANDLED HERSELF DURING HER PUBLIC SERVICE.
9:20:05AM GOD BLESS HER.
9:20:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:20:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:20:09AM I THINK THE WORD TO DESCRIBE COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON IS
9:20:13AM FEARLESS.
9:20:14AM MONDAY NIGHT I WAS AT A BOARD MEETING, AND A GENTLEMAN ASKED
9:20:18AM ME, HOW DO YOU LIKE WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON?
9:20:20AM I GO, SHE'S TOUGH.
9:20:22AM I WOULDN'T WANT TO DEBATE HER.
9:20:25AM I SAID SHE'S ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ME AND SHE'S ALWAYS
9:20:28AM BEEN A GOOD FRIEND.
9:20:30AM AND WE LEFT IT AT THAT.
9:20:32AM IT'S AMAZING.
9:20:35AM PEOPLE ASK, LIKE EVERYWHERE YOU GO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER
9:20:39AM HENDERSON, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON OR A CITY COUNCIL
9:20:42AM EVENT OR CRA EVENT, THERE'S SOMEBODY WHOSE LIFE SHE
9:20:47AM IMPACTED.
9:20:47AM WE HAVE A FAMILY FRIEND FOR PROBABLY 50 YEARS AND SHE TELLS
9:20:53AM ME ONE DAY, WHEN YOU SEE GWEN -- I NEVER CALLED HER GWEN --
9:20:57AM I CALLED HER YES, MA'AM, NO, MA'AM, OR COUNCIL MEMBER.
9:20:59AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:21:00AM WHEN YOU SEE GWEN YOU TELL HER SHE NEEDS TO CALL ME.
9:21:04AM I GO, OKAY.
9:21:05AM I SAW COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON THE NEXT NIGHT.

9:21:07AM I WENT UP AND SAID I HAVE A MESSAGE FOR YOU.
9:21:10AM COMMISSIONER MYERS WAS RIGHT NEXT TO HER.
9:21:12AM I SAID I WAS TOLD TO TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU TELL GWEN SHE
9:21:20AM NEEDS TO CALL ME.
9:21:21AM SHE GOES, WHO SAID THAT?
9:21:22AM I TOLD HER THE NAME.
9:21:24AM SHE SAID THAT WAS MY FOURTH GRADE TEACHER.
9:21:26AM HOW DO YOU KNOW HER?
9:21:27AM THIS WOMAN KNOWS EVERYBODY.
9:21:29AM I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME.
9:21:35AM I KNOW I CRY ALL THE TIME AND I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S VERY
9:21:39AM EMOTIONAL.
9:21:39AM BUT I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST MET HER, MY WIFE AND I WENT UP
9:21:46AM TO HER.
9:21:47AM MY WIFE IS A TEACHER.
9:21:50AM HENDERSON WAS A TEACHER.
9:21:52AM THEY HIT IT OFF FROM THE FIRST CONVERSATION.
9:21:59AM I FEEL LIKE -- IT'S NOT A DREAM.
9:22:04AM IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
9:22:05AM I'M SITTING AT HOME THE OTHER NIGHT AND I'M NOT EVEN AWAKE.
9:22:12AM WE HAVEN'T STOPPED THINKING ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON
9:22:15AM WHO WAS HERE JUST A WEEK AGO.
9:22:16AM I DON'T EVEN WANT TO LOOK IN THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE I
9:22:20AM PICTURE HER IN THIS SEAT.
9:22:23AM THE IMPACT THAT SHE'S HAD IN THE LAST TWO YEARS AS A COUNCIL

9:22:27AM MEMBER AND A CRA MEMBER, FORGET THE DECADES AS AN EDUCATOR,
9:22:31AM THE THOUSANDS OF LIVES THAT SHE HAS TOUCHED.
9:22:34AM THE IMPACT IS HUGE.
9:22:38AM THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL A WORST-CASE SCENARIO.
9:22:42AM HOW DO YOU FILL THESE SHOES?
9:22:44AM SOMEONE, THE MAYOR SAID IT, ABOUT LIVING LIFE.
9:22:49AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON ENJOYED LIFE EACH AND EVERY DAY.
9:22:54AM SHE DIDN'T LET ANYBODY STOP HER.
9:22:57AM A PIECE OF ADVICE SHE TOLD ME A MONTH AGO, WE WERE AT AN
9:23:00AM EVENT HERE IN DOWNTOWN, I SAID SOMETHING, SHE GOES,
9:23:03AM ABSOLUTELY NOT.
9:23:04AM YOU NEVER GIVE UP.
9:23:05AM YOU NEVER GIVE UP.
9:23:06AM YOU HAVE TO KEEP ON GOING.
9:23:08AM AND THAT'S IT.
9:23:10AM ALL MY MEMORIES WITH HER ARE GOOD.
9:23:13AM SHE WAS SUPPORTIVE.
9:23:14AM SHE WAS A FRIEND.
9:23:15AM WE SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER FOR TWO YEARS.
9:23:17AM WHEN YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON THIS DAIS, MY WIFE IS THE
9:23:22AM OTHER PERSON THAT I SPEND THE MOST TIME WITH.
9:23:24AM IT IS MY WIFE.
9:23:25AM EVERYBODY ELSE IS CITY COUNCIL.
9:23:27AM WE HAVE THESE 12-HOUR DAYS IN THESE MEETINGS, WE REALLY GET
9:23:29AM TO KNOW EACH OTHER.

9:23:33AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON DRINKS COCA-COLA, HOW THIS ONE GETS
9:23:37AM COFFEE, THE SNACKS THEY EAT, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME
9:23:39AM TOGETHER.
9:23:40AM I'M HONORED THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO -- THAT I ALWAYS HAVE
9:23:46AM THAT MEMORY OF COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:23:48AM A WONDERFUL PERSON.
9:23:50AM I DON'T CARE ABOUT POLITICS.
9:23:51AM SHE HAD A GOOD HEART.
9:23:53AM SHE WAS GOOD FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
9:23:55AM SHE WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
9:23:56AM HER IMPACT WILL BE FELT FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
9:23:59AM THE OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT AND GRIEF.
9:24:03AM I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
9:24:07AM MOVIE STARS DON'T GET THIS KIND OF RESPONSE.
9:24:09AM MY WIFE SAID IT, IT'S ALL OVER THE NEWS.
9:24:11AM I GO TO SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S HENDERSON.
9:24:13AM I TURN ON THE TV, IT'S HENDERSON.
9:24:16AM THAT GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT SHE'S -- THE IMPACT, THE
9:24:26AM IMPORTANCE, THE SIGNIFICANCE, AND THE LOVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE
9:24:28AM FOR HER IN THIS COMMUNITY.
9:24:30AM HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
9:24:34AM I DON'T KNOW.
9:24:35AM HOW DO YOU FILL THIS VOID ON THIS BOARD OF SOMEBODY LIKE
9:24:42AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON?
9:24:43AM I'M HEARTBROKEN.

9:24:44AM I'M DEVASTATED.
9:24:46AM I CAN'T IMAGINE THE FAMILY.
9:24:48AM I THINK ABOUT HER SISTER, HER DAUGHTER.
9:24:51AM THAT WAS HER WORLD.
9:24:52AM HER STUDENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT SHE EDUCATED, BUT HER
9:24:56AM FAMILY WAS EVERYTHING.
9:24:59AM FAMILY FIRST.
9:25:00AM DON'T WORRY ABOUT THIS PLACE.
9:25:02AM FAMILY FIRST.
9:25:03AM I WILL MISS HER TREMENDOUSLY.
9:25:06AM THANK YOU.
9:25:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:25:08AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:25:11AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:25:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:25:14AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS A FORCE.
9:25:22AM AND WE, OF COURSE, HAD A SPECIAL BOND BECAUSE WE WERE WOMEN,
9:25:27AM FORMER EDUCATORS ON THIS COUNCIL.
9:25:35AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, SPOKEN OR NOT, THERE IS AN EXTRA
9:25:43AM LAYER WHEN YOU ARE A WOMAN ON THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE
9:25:47AM HAVEN'T BEEN THAT MANY OF US.
9:25:48AM SO WHEN SHE JOINED COUNCIL, SHE STARTED TO CALL ME 15.
9:25:53AM THAT WAS HER NICKNAME FOR ME BECAUSE SHE TOLD ME, SHE SAID,
9:25:56AM YOU ARE ONLY THE 15th WOMAN IN THE HISTORY OF TAMPA ON
9:26:00AM CITY COUNCIL.

9:26:01AM SO I THEN STARTED CALLING HER 16.
9:26:05AM BUT EVERY SINGLE TIME WE WOULD CALL EACH OTHER THAT, IT WAS
9:26:10AM A REMEMBRANCE OF HOW IMPORTANT HAVING WOMEN ON THIS BODY WAS
9:26:18AM AND, QUITE FRANKLY, THE LITTLE EXTRA BIT THAT WE HAD TO
9:26:21AM CARRY, THAT WE HAD TO SHOW, THAT WE HAD TO WORK BECAUSE AS
9:26:26AM TEACHERS, AS WOMEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HER ESPECIALLY AS A
9:26:32AM WOMAN OF COLOR COUNCIL MEMBER, WE ARE ROLE MODELS FOR OTHER
9:26:38AM WOMEN WHO SHOULD FIND THEMSELVES, WHO SHOULD SEE THEMSELVES
9:26:44AM IN POSITIONS OF POWER.
9:26:48AM SO I LOVED -- TO ME, THAT'S WHO SHE WAS.
9:26:51AM SHE ALWAYS BROUGHT THE HISTORY IN.
9:26:53AM JUST THAT LITTLE NICKNAME REMINDER WAS, OKAY, REMEMBER, WHO
9:26:59AM YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
9:27:02AM BUT SHE DIDN'T JUST DO THAT FOR ME.
9:27:04AM EVERY TIME SHE TALKED ON COUNCIL AND WE WERE DEBATING, SAY,
9:27:10AM GIVING MONEY TO A BUILDING FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION, SHE
9:27:13AM WOULD SAY, WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR BUILDINGS THAT WERE
9:27:18AM SIGNIFICANT TO BLACK FOLKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:27:22AM SHE WOULD SAY, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
9:27:24AM WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT?
9:27:25AM SHE WOULD REMIND US EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD
9:27:33AM HAVE LEFT IT UNSAID, BUT SHE DIDN'T.
9:27:36AM SHE CONTINUOUSLY REMINDED US THAT OUR CITY IS A LOT MORE
9:27:43AM THAN JUST THE HISTORY THAT WE LIKE TO REMEMBER, IT IS THE
9:27:51AM HISTORY WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT BRINGS OUR CITY FORWARD.

9:27:53AM THAT IS THE LEGACY SHE WILL LEAVE WITH ME.
9:27:58AM THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A BODY TO CONTINUE IS TO
9:28:02AM REMEMBER THAT AND TO BRING THAT FORWARD BECAUSE SHE WAS SO
9:28:05AM POWERFUL FOR THAT.
9:28:06AM I KNOW SHE CHANGED MY MINDSET IN TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THAT
9:28:11AM AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
9:28:12AM I KNOW THAT AS THIS BODY MOVES FORWARD, I WILL MAKE IT A
9:28:19AM MISSION TO HELP US REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT.
9:28:24AM SHE DIDN'T SHY AWAY FROM THAT.
9:28:26AM I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
9:28:27AM I WILL MISS HER, AND I WILL MISS HER TENACITY AND THE WAY
9:28:32AM SHE WAS REALLY ABLE TO BRING VERY IMPORTANT TOPICS TO LIGHT
9:28:38AM THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT AS A CITY IF WE'RE GOING
9:28:40AM TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE INCLUSIVE OF EVERYONE.
9:28:43AM I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
9:28:47AM HER LEGACY WILL LAST A VERY LONG TIME.
9:28:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
9:28:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
9:28:56AM FIRST OF ALL, TO -- SHE ALWAYS SAID COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE
9:29:03AM SHE EARNED THE TITLE.
9:29:05AM I THINK WE ALL CALLED HER COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:29:08AM BUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON'S FAMILY, OUR CONDOLENCES TO
9:29:12AM HER DAUGHTER AND SISTER WHO WE KNOW WELL.
9:29:15AM SHE OBVIOUSLY PAID IT FORWARD IN MANY WAYS IN THE LAST
9:29:20AM COUPLE OF YEARS.

9:29:22AM TO HER DAUGHTER IN PARTICULAR, ANYTHING YOU NEED GOING
9:29:24AM FORWARD, LET US KNOW.
9:29:27AM YOU HAVE A WHOLE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING YOU IN WHATEVER YOU
9:29:30AM NEED IN THE FUTURE.
9:29:31AM I THINK IT WAS OBVIOUS AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT SHE WAS
9:29:35AM BRILLIANT.
9:29:36AM SHE PROBABLY HAD A SUPER, SUPER HIGH IQ.
9:29:40AM I LOVE BEING ON THE BOARD WITH SOMEBODY LIKE THAT BECAUSE I
9:29:42AM NEVER KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT.
9:29:44AM SHE DID HER RESEARCH AND SHE KNEW A LOT OF THINGS.
9:29:47AM AS OTHER FOLKS SAID, SHE WAS A GREAT DEBATER.
9:29:50AM SOME PEOPLE WOULD TAKE THAT AS WE WERE ARGUING WITH EACH
9:29:52AM OTHER, BUT IT WAS FUN DEBATING HER.
9:29:54AM WHAT YOU ALL DIDN'T SEE IS THAT SOMETIMES WE WOULD BE
9:29:57AM DEBATING AND THEN SHE WOULD WHISPER A JOKE, AS SOON AS WE
9:30:01AM GOT OUTSIDE THE DOOR, SHE WOULD TELL US A JOKE.
9:30:03AM WE WOULD DEBATE AND THEN ON SOME ISSUE OR DISCUSS SOME
9:30:07AM ISSUE, AS I'M WALKING OUT TO GET A DRINK, SHE WOULD TAP ME
9:30:11AM AND SAY, CARLSON, GET ME SOMETHING, TOO.
9:30:13AM WE WERE ALWAYS HELPING EACH OTHER, WORKING WITH EACH OTHER.
9:30:15AM YOU SEE HER PICTURE, AS GUIDO SAID, HER PICTURE HAS BEEN
9:30:20AM SHOWING UP EVERYWHERE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
9:30:23AM SHE HAD A SMILE AND PRESENCE THAT WHEN SHE WALKED IN THE
9:30:25AM ROOM, EVERYBODY FELT POSITIVE, ENERGIZED.
9:30:28AM SHE HAD A NATURAL SENSE OF CHARISMA.

9:30:31AM SHE WAS REALLY FUNNY.
9:30:32AM AFTER A TOUGH DISCUSSION OR LONG NIGHT, SHE WOULD TELL US
9:30:35AM JOKES BEHIND THE SCENES.
9:30:36AM THESE ARE THINGS YOU ALL NEVER SEE.
9:30:39AM WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT SUNSHINE ISSUES, BUT SHE WOULD TELL US
9:30:39AM ABOUT OTHER THINGS.
9:30:42AM SEVERAL FOLKS HAVE ASKED US ABOUT HER ISSUES.
9:30:45AM THERE WERE MANY OF THEM.
9:30:46AM IF WE HAPPEN TO FORGET SOME OF THEM, REMIND US, ESPECIALLY
9:30:48AM IN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ISSUES AS THEY COME UP.
9:30:51AM OBVIOUSLY, TAMPA HEIGHTS WAS AN ISSUE OF INTEREST TO HER.
9:30:54AM I WAS INVITED BY THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION
9:30:57AM RECENTLY TO SPEAK, AND SHE SHOWED UP, SAT RIGHT FRONT AND
9:31:00AM CENTER.
9:31:01AM I TOLD EVERYBODY, I SAID BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE SHE CAN'T
9:31:04AM RESPOND.
9:31:04AM SHE CAN LISTEN TO ME BUT SHE CAN'T RESPOND.
9:31:08AM I SAID SHE'LL WANT TO RESPOND BUT CAN'T.
9:31:10AM AND SHE SAID, UM-HUM.
9:31:11AM I'M SURE AS SOON AS I LEFT, SHE SAID WHATEVER SHE WAS GOING
9:31:15AM TO SAY.
9:31:16AM AS I TOLD THEM, SHE WOULD MEET WITH MY CONSTITUENTS IN SOUTH
9:31:21AM TAMPA AND I WOULD MEET WITH HER CONSTITUENTS.
9:31:23AM ON COUNCIL, WE NEED FOUR VOTES TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
9:31:26AM WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT EACH OTHER'S DISTRICTS AND SHE

9:31:29AM WAS GOOD ABOUT LEARNING ABOUT EVERYBODY'S AREAS.
9:31:32AM OBVIOUSLY, SHE WAS AN EXPERT ON HOUSING.
9:31:34AM THE STORY OF HOW SHE GOT HER HOME AND THE VALUE IT CREATED
9:31:38AM FOR HER FAMILY IS UNBELIEVABLE.
9:31:40AM IT IS A GREAT TESTIMONY TO WHY WE NEED SMART HOUSING
9:31:45AM POLICIES TO HELP LIFT PEOPLE UP IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:31:48AM SHE ALSO TAUGHT ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND WAS VERY INVOLVED IN
9:31:51AM HELPING ENTREPRENEURS.
9:31:52AM WE NEED TO HOLD THAT SPIRIT FORWARD AS WELL.
9:31:55AM THERE IS AN AMAZING SENSE OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP HAPPENING WITH
9:32:00AM PROBABLY MANY OF HER FORMER STUDENTS NOW AS WE SEE A NEW
9:32:07AM ENTREPRENEURIAL CLASS RISING, ESPECIALLY IN EAST TAMPA,
9:32:10AM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:32:11AM AND CREATIVE BUSINESSES BEING SET UP.
9:32:13AM SHE WAS A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE AND DEFENDER OF CULTURE.
9:32:18AM THERE WERE DIFFERENT CULTURES FROM ALL THE PLACES SHE LIVED
9:32:20AM AND ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF BACKGROUNDS SHE HAD.
9:32:23AM SHE SHOWED THAT, DISPLAYED IT, TALKED ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
9:32:27AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THAT.
9:32:28AM AS THE MAYOR SAID, SHE WAS VERY PROTECTIVE OF CARVER CITY
9:32:32AM AND LINCOLN GARDENS.
9:32:34AM BELIEVE ME, WE WILL BE THINKING ABOUT HER WHEN ANY ISSUES
9:32:38AM COME UP RELATED TO THOSE TWO PLACES.
9:32:40AM AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED, JEFFERSON, WE KNOW SHE
9:32:44AM LOVED IT, EVERY MEETING, INCLUDING THE LAST MEETING, SHE

9:32:46AM TALKED ABOUT IT.
9:32:47AM ONE THING THAT HAPPENS WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS LEAVE, THEY HAVE
9:32:53AM MOTIONS THAT ARE GOING FORWARD.
9:32:54AM SO WE WILL SEE HER PRESENCE LITERALLY IN THE AGENDAS COMING
9:32:58AM UP.
9:32:59AM OF COURSE, WE WILL FEEL HER PRESENCE.
9:33:01AM WE WILL THINK ABOUT HER.
9:33:02AM THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SUPPORTED HER AND WORKED WITH HER IN
9:33:05AM THE COMMUNITY, PLEASE REMIND US OF WHAT SHE WOULD HAVE SAID
9:33:08AM DURING THOSE MOTIONS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
9:33:11AM REPRESENT HER CORRECTLY.
9:33:12AM I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN SHE
9:33:18AM WAS HERE BECAUSE SHE KEPT ME ON MY TOES.
9:33:20AM I NEVER KNEW WHAT SHE WAS GOING TO SAY.
9:33:23AM SHE WAS BRILLIANT.
9:33:24AM YOU COULDN'T PUSH HER AROUND.
9:33:26AM YOU HAD TO HAVE AN INTELLECTUAL ARGUMENT.
9:33:28AM SHE WOULD DO THE SAME THING.
9:33:29AM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING AN INTELLECTUAL ARGUMENT AND REAL
9:33:31AM ARGUMENT.
9:33:32AM IT WAS FUN.
9:33:33AM IT'S LIKE SITTING NEXT TO HER OR SITTING NEAR HER WAS LIKE
9:33:37AM SITTING NEXT TO THE A-PLUS STUDENT SO THAT YOU CAN TRY TO
9:33:40AM TRACK AND BE THE A-PLUS STUDENT AS WELL.
9:33:43AM THAT MADE IT EXCITING EVERY WEEK.

9:33:45AM BUT I THINK THAT SHE DEFINITELY WILL BE WITH US.
9:33:47AM WE'LL SEE HER IN THE MOTIONS.
9:33:49AM WE'LL FEEL HER PRESENCE.
9:33:51AM MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS THESE ISSUES COME UP, SHE'S GOING TO
9:33:54AM STILL KEEP US ON OUR TOES BECAUSE SHE'S STILL LISTENING.
9:33:58AM THANK YOU.
9:33:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:34:00AM MY SENTIMENTS ON THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, PEOPLE
9:34:05AM TALK ABOUT SITTING NEXT TO HER.
9:34:06AM I SAT NEXT TO HER AND SHE WAS HILARIOUS TO SIT NEXT TO.
9:34:11AM SHE REALLY WAS.
9:34:12AM HER REMARKS.
9:34:12AM HER RESPONSES.
9:34:13AM THE THINGS THAT SHE WOULD SAY TO YOU WERE REALLY FUNNY.
9:34:17AM SHE HAD A VERY SHARP SENSE OF HUMOR.
9:34:20AM SHE WAS A NATURALLY FUNNY PERSON, ESPECIALLY IN POLITICS
9:34:25AM WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO, SHE
9:34:28AM DID WHAT SHE WAS GOING TO DO AND IT ALWAYS CAME FROM THE
9:34:31AM HEART.
9:34:31AM SHE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT HOW SHE FELT.
9:34:34AM SHE DIDN'T REALLY CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT BECAUSE SHE
9:34:38AM THOUGHT IT WAS RIGHT.
9:34:38AM I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS REFRESHING.
9:34:40AM I LOVE TO HEAR HER TALK ABOUT HER FAMILY.
9:34:42AM SO THOUGHTFUL AND SO IN-DEPTH AND SO RELEVANT TO TODAY,

9:34:47AM TALKING ABOUT HER MOTHER WHO SHE JUST WORSHIPPED.
9:34:50AM SHE WORSHIPPED HER MOM.
9:34:53AM HER LATE FATHER, SHE WOULD ALWAYS TALK ABOUT STORIES OF HIM
9:34:56AM SERVING IN THE KOREAN WAR AND BEING SO DISRESPECTED IN THE
9:34:59AM UNITED STATES MILITARY EVEN THOUGH HE WENT TO BATTLE FOR OUR
9:35:02AM COUNTRY DURING JIM CROW AND HIM COMING HOME, GETTING A HOUSE
9:35:06AM IN CARVER CITY AND RAISING A FAMILY.
9:35:09AM A TAMPA STORY, LIKE A REAL TAMPA STORY AND SOMETHING THAT IS
9:35:14AM SO BEAUTIFUL.
9:35:15AM SHE HAD A REAL LOVE FOR HER COMMUNITY, FOR CARVER CITY, FOR
9:35:19AM TAMPA.
9:35:19AM TO ME, GWEN HENDERSON WAS A REAL FIGHTER AND A CHAMPION OF
9:35:24AM WORKING CLASS AFRICAN AMERICAN TAMPE OS.
9:35:28AM SHE WAS.
9:35:29AM THAT IS A FACT.
9:35:30AM LIKE, SHE WAS.
9:35:31AM SHE ALWAYS WAS.
9:35:32AM I ALWAYS TELL FOLKS IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO SEE THE
9:35:35AM BEAUTIFUL HEART -- AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL HEART -- OF GWEN
9:35:38AM HENDERSON, GO TO BLACK ENGLISH BOOKSTORE.
9:35:42AM I KNEW GWEN, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
9:35:45AM I KNEW HER FROM BEFORE.
9:35:47AM I THOUGHT SHE WAS A WONDERFUL WOMAN.
9:35:51AM WHEN I STEPPED INTO THAT STORE, DURING THE OPENING OTHER
9:35:55AM COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE HERE, BEAUTIFUL.

9:35:57AM SUCH A BEAUTIFUL THING.
9:35:59AM IT WAS A LOVE LETTER TO BLACK HISTORY, TO HER FAMILY, TO HER
9:36:02AM COMMUNITY, TO IGNORED HISTORY.
9:36:05AM IT WAS A LOVE LETTER FROM JUST A WOMAN WITH A BEAUTIFUL
9:36:09AM HEART.
9:36:09AM I WAS ALWAYS TOUCHED.
9:36:12AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND OTHERS TALKED ABOUT THIS, THAT WHEN
9:36:15AM STUDENTS WOULD COME AND THEY WOULD SAY, MAN, MS. HENDERSON,
9:36:19AM I LOVE YOU.
9:36:20AM YOU WERE MY TEACHER IN WHATEVER YEAR IT WAS.
9:36:24AM SHE REALLY MADE AN IMPACT.
9:36:26AM THE KIND OF IMPACT THAT VERY FEW OF US MAKE.
9:36:29AM SHE ALWAYS TOLD IT LIKE IT IS.
9:36:32AM THERE IS THAT SAYING, MICHELLE OBAMA, WHEN THEY GO LOW, YOU
9:36:35AM GO HIGH.
9:36:36AM WHEN FOLKS WENT LOW AGAINST COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, PEOPLE
9:36:38AM WERE MEAN.
9:36:39AM SOME PEOPLE WERE.
9:36:40AM BUT SHE WENT HIGHER IN HER OWN WAY, BUT SHE ALSO PUNCHED
9:36:45AM BACK.
9:36:45AM SHE WOULD TELL ME, VIERA, YOU'RE TOO NICE.
9:36:48AM BECAUSE SHE HANDLED THINGS HER WAY, BUT IT WORKED FOR HER.
9:36:52AM I TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU PUSHED AGAINST COUNCILWOMAN
9:36:54AM HENDERSON, SHE WOULD PUSH BACK.
9:36:57AM SHE WOULD PUSH BACK.

9:36:58AM AND WITH THE STRENGTH OF HER OFFICE, HER CHARACTER, HER
9:37:01AM FAMILY, HER BLOOD, AND WHERE SHE COMES FROM AND HER PASSION,
9:37:08AM ULTIMATELY, WHEN SHE PASSED ON, SHE WAS LIVING OUT HER
9:37:11AM DREAM.
9:37:12AM YOU TALK TO PEOPLE WHO WENT TO JEFFERSON WITH HER, SHE WOULD
9:37:15AM TALK ABOUT, I WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
9:37:17AM SHE DID IT AND SHE WON, AND SHE WAS OUT LIVING HER DREAM.
9:37:21AM SHE REALLY WAS.
9:37:22AM HER DREAM OF BEING A MOM, A GREAT MOM WHO LOVED HER DAUGHTER
9:37:26AM SO MUCH AND OF A REAL PUBLIC SERVANT.
9:37:29AM FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT GWEN HENDERSON IS ALL ABOUT.
9:37:32AM SHE WAS SUCH A SPECIAL PERSON.
9:37:34AM SHE WAS UNIQUE AND SHE TOLD IT LIKE IT WAS.
9:37:37AM IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT, THAT'S COOL.
9:37:39AM THERE'S ALWAYS THE NEXT ELECTION TO DEAL WITH THAT WITH HER.
9:37:42AM THAT'S HOW SHE ALWAYS DEALT WITH IT.
9:37:45AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL AND EVERYONE, FOR REMARKS FROM
9:37:47AM THE HEART.
9:37:48AM NEXT WE WILL RECOGNIZE OUR FRIEND AND GREAT CHAMPION HERE IN
9:37:51AM TAMPA, IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN
9:37:53AM MYERS.
9:37:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:37:58AM AS MY MIND REFLECT BACK AT LEAST ABOUT THREE AND A HALF
9:38:05AM WEEKS AGO, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND I WERE OVER AT PERRY
9:38:10AM HARVEY PARK AT THE BE OUT DAY.

9:38:13AM HAD OUR FAMU JERSEYS ON JUST WALKING THE PARK, TALKING WITH
9:38:18AM EVERYONE, TAKING PICTURES.
9:38:19AM SHE SAYS, COME ON COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW WE ALWAYS HAVE TO
9:38:23AM DO A SELFIE.
9:38:24AM HAVE TO DO A SELFIE, BUT WE HAVE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY HERE
9:38:27AM BECAUSE WE'RE HERE.
9:38:28AM SO WE WENT ON THE STAGE AND WE DID THAT.
9:38:32AM AND THEN MY MIND REFLECT BACK ON JUNE 3rd WHEN SHE HOSTED
9:38:40AM THE HBCU DAY.
9:38:43AM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A JOY AND COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS THERE.
9:38:47AM IT WAS COMING OUTSIDE TO GREET EVERYONE.
9:38:51AM THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, ALL OF THE FRESHMEN GOING TO AN
9:38:54AM HBCU.
9:38:55AM AND SHE HOSTED SOMETHING THAT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME HERE
9:38:59AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:39:02AM AND SHE WAS PROUD TO SEE ALL OF THE FRESHMEN, BUT MOSTLY
9:39:06AM PROUD TO SEE ALL OF THE GRADUATES COME BACK WITH OUR
9:39:09AM PARAPHERNALIA.
9:39:10AM SHE SAID, OH, THERE IS THE HOWARD, THERE IS TUSKEGEE.
9:39:14AM SHE WAS JUST GOING ON AND ON BRAGGING.
9:39:17AM BUT IT'S NOTHING LIKE FAMU.
9:39:19AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:39:19AM NOTHING LIKE FAMU.
9:39:21AM SHE TOLD DARLENE, OKAY, DARLENE, JUST KEEP IT COOL, BCU.
9:39:27AM THE RATTLERS, WE'RE IN THE HOUSE AND IT'S ALL ABOUT US.

9:39:31AM MORE RATTLERS THAN -- AND YOU KNOW.
9:39:33AM AND THEN RECEIVING THE CALL ON MONDAY -- NO, TUESDAY
9:39:40AM MORNING.
9:39:40AM MONDAY MORNING, JUNE 8, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, SCHOOL BOARD
9:39:49AM MEMBERS LYNN GRAY AND PATTY RENDON, WE WERE ALL TOGETHER TO
9:39:56AM GIVE REMARKS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA SUMMER HIRES.
9:40:00AM GWEN CAME UP.
9:40:01AM I SAID GOOD MORNING, HOW IS IT GOING?
9:40:02AM I'M LATE BECAUSE THEY MADE ME GET A BADGE.
9:40:08AM I SAID, OH, I WAS PRIVILEGED.
9:40:11AM I JUST GAVE THEM COMMISSIONER MYERS AND THE GUY OPENED THE
9:40:15AM DOOR AND TOLD ME TO TAKE THE ELEVATOR TO THE SIXTH FLOOR.
9:40:19AM SHE SAID, OH, STOP IT.
9:40:20AM YOU ARE COUNCIL.
9:40:24AM THEY SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED YOU TO COME ON UP.
9:40:26AM WITH THAT WE ALL JOKED.
9:40:28AM McCASKILL SAID, WE NEED YOU ALL TO TAKE A PICTURE, THE
9:40:34AM WHOLE GROUP WITH THE STUDENTS.
9:40:36AM COUNCILWOMAN SAT NEXT TO ME, DARLENE SAT NEXT TO HER AND
9:40:42AM THEN THE TWO SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.
9:40:44AM SAID, I HAVE TO RUN.
9:40:45AM I GOT TO RUSH OFF.
9:40:46AM I'VE GOT TO GET BACK OVER TO COUNTY CENTER.
9:40:49AM SHE SAID WHERE YOU GOING?
9:40:50AM I HAVE TO GO TO PARRISH.

9:40:54AM I HAVE A TOUR DOWN IN PARRISH, FLORIDA, TO MEET WITH A
9:40:56AM DEVELOPER ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WANTS TO COME TO TAMPA.
9:40:59AM SHE SAYS, I'M GOING ON A TOUR, TOO.
9:41:03AM I SAID WHERE ARE YOU GOING TODAY?
9:41:05AM I'M GOING OVER TO EAST TAMPA, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO
9:41:08AM TAKE ME OVER TO EAST TAMPA AND I'M GOING TO TOUR EAST TAMPA.
9:41:13AM AND WE LAUGHED.
9:41:14AM IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THE MIGHTY GOD WE SERVE.
9:41:21AM WE DON'T KNOW HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THE END OF THE LINE TO BE
9:41:25AM WITH SOMEONE MONDAY MORNING AND TUESDAY MORNING YOU GET THE
9:41:29AM CALL, YOU ARE NO LONGER HERE.
9:41:33AM BUT THE LIFE AND THE LEGACY THAT SHE HAS LEFT US WILL LIVE
9:41:43AM FOREVER AND A DAY IN OUR HEARTS BECAUSE THE SERVICE SHE
9:41:49AM GAVE, IT WAS PRICELESS TO THIS COMMUNITY.
9:41:51AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:41:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
9:41:54AM WE APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING YOUR HEART HERE.
9:41:56AM NEXT WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S
9:42:01AM FAMILY AND VERY DEAR FRIENDS WHO ARE HERE, AMONG OTHERS,
9:42:05AM THAT ARE HERE, THERE ARE MANY HERE.
9:42:07AM I HAVE THREE HERE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING.
9:42:10AM I'LL GET INTO THAT.
9:42:11AM BUT I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THIS LIST AND RECOGNIZING SOME
9:42:14AM VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE WHO WE JOIN IN MOURNING HERE TODAY.
9:42:17AM WE HAVE HERE SANDRA COOK, FORMER TEACHER, FRIEND AS WELL AS

9:42:21AM A DELTA SORORITY SISTER FOR THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
9:42:26AM COME FORWARD, MA'AM.
9:42:27AM YOU WILL BE SPEAKING FIRST, WHO WILL BE SPEAKING.
9:42:29AM I'M GLAD TO SEE HERE SOMEONE WHO CAN ALSO SPEAK TO HER GREAT
9:42:33AM LOVE OF THE DELTAS.
9:42:34AM THAT'S SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT.
9:42:36AM RICK KINSEY, HIGH SCHOOL FRIEND AND COLLEGE FRIEND OF THE
9:42:40AM LATE COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON WHO WILL ALSO BE SPEAKING.
9:42:44AM WE HAVE HERE VELDA HENDERSON, HER SISTER WHO IS HERE.
9:42:47AM THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR COMING HERE.
9:42:48AM WE HAVE HERE TONYA HOLDEN, LONGTIME FRIEND.
9:42:52AM LESLEY ALLEN, NEPHEW.
9:42:54AM GLORIA GLOVER, A SORORITY SISTER WHO IS HERE.
9:42:58AM WE ALSO HAVE HERE ALVETTA FRANK HARRIS, A COUSIN.
9:43:07AM WE HAVE HERE DAYANA SMITH, A NIECE.
9:43:09AM ALENA SMITH, A GREAT NIECE OF THE LATE COUNCILMAN GWEN
9:43:09AM HENDERSON.
9:43:09AM OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TOLD FROM US THIS GROUP WHO WISH TO
9:43:12AM SPEAK I HAVE HERE MS. COOK WHO IS HERE.
9:43:15AM MR. KINSEY, AND THEN CLOSING IT OUT, OUR DEAR FRIEND WHO WE
9:43:19AM LOVE SO MUCH.
9:43:20AM AND WE ALWAYS JUST LOVE SO MUCH FOR HER KINDNESS, DARLENE
9:43:25AM JOHNSON.
9:43:25AM THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE NEXT PORTION.
9:43:27AM LADIES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU MAY.

9:43:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:43:31AM I LOVE GWEN HENDERSON.
9:43:36AM I AM A RETIRED TEACHER, 44 YEARS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:43:42AM I MET GWEN WHEN SHE WAS 15 AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
9:43:45AM THE PERSON THAT YOU ALL HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT TODAY, SHE WAS THE
9:43:52AM SAME PERSON AT 15.
9:43:55AM AND SHE ONLY GREW STRONGER AND WISER AND MORE DETERMINED.
9:44:01AM TO REPRESENT HER PEOPLE.
9:44:04AM SHE WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT HER PEOPLE.
9:44:14AM SHE USED TO SAY ALL THE TIME, I'M JUST A LITTLE BLACK GIRL
9:44:17AM FROM CARVER CITY, BUT SHE WAS MORE THAN THAT.
9:44:20AM I WATCHED HER AT JEFFERSON BECAUSE I TAUGHT AT JEFFERSON.
9:44:25AM SHE GRADUATED IN '82.
9:44:27AM I WAS THERE.
9:44:28AM BUT I LEFT JEFFERSON AND I TAUGHT ALL AROUND HILLSBOROUGH
9:44:32AM COUNTY.
9:44:33AM SHE STARTED AT PROGRESS VILLAGE MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND SHE ENDED
9:44:37AM UP AT JEFFERSON.
9:44:38AM SHE WAS SO EXCITED BECAUSE THAT WAS HER ALMA MATER.
9:44:41AM SHE WILL ALWAYS BE A DRAGON.
9:44:44AM EVERY TIME I FOUND A DRAGON, I WOULD GET HER A DRAGON AND
9:44:48AM SHE WOULD DISPLAY IT.
9:44:49AM BUT SHE REALLY, REALLY WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT TEACHING.
9:44:53AM AS MY CAREER WENT ON, I'M A LITTLE LONG IN THE TOOTH, AND
9:44:59AM SHE ALWAYS WANTED ME TO COME TO JEFFERSON TO WORK WITH HER.

9:45:03AM I KNOW HER AND WE BOTH HAVE STRONG PERSONALITIES.
9:45:07AM I'M LIKE, NO, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO COME TO JEFFERSON.
9:45:11AM SHE BECAME THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND SHE WANTED ME TO COME.
9:45:14AM MY LAST FIVE YEARS I SPENT AT JEFFERSON.
9:45:16AM AND SHE TOOK GREAT CARE OF ME.
9:45:19AM I GOT MARRIED AND MY NAME IS COOK, BUT SHE ALWAYS CALLED ME
9:45:26AM MS. LEVINS.
9:45:29AM ARIEL HER DAUGHTER TOLD ME, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL YOU
9:45:33AM MS. LEVINS ANYMORE BECAUSE MY MOM MADE ME CALL YOU
9:45:36AM MS. LEVINS.
9:45:37AM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CALL ME?
9:45:38AM SANDRA.
9:45:39AM NO.
9:45:40AM ANYWAY, OUR DAUGHTERS WERE BORN A MONTH APART, SO OUR
9:45:46AM CHILDREN GREW UP TOGETHER.
9:45:48AM AND IN HIGH SCHOOL, LIKE I SAID, SHE WAS STRONG WILLED AND I
9:45:51AM WAS HER TEACHER.
9:45:52AM SHE LIKED TO TELL THE STORY OF ME GIVING HER A C.
9:45:57AM BECAUSE 87 WAS HER GRADE.
9:46:00AM 88 WAS A B.
9:46:01AM SHE SAID YOU GAVE ME A C.
9:46:02AM I'M LIKE, NO, YOU EARNED A C.
9:46:05AM SHE WOULD TELL EVERYBODY THAT STORY.
9:46:07AM AND THEN LATER ON WE BECAME SORORITY SISTERS.
9:46:12AM I WROTE HER A LETTER BECAUSE A MEMBER HAS TO WRITE A LETTER

9:46:14AM SAYING THIS PERSON IS OF GOOD CHARACTER.
9:46:17AM I WAS HONORED TO DO THAT.
9:46:18AM AS WE BECAME OLDER, WE LAUGHED AND JOKED AND I WOULD SAY IN
9:46:23AM HIGH SCHOOL, IT WASN'T THAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE ME, YOU JUST
9:46:26AM WANTED TO BE ME.
9:46:27AM SHE JUST FOLLOWED.
9:46:29AM SHE STARTED OUT IN BUSINESS.
9:46:32AM SHE NEVER WANTED TO BE A TEACHER, AND IT WAS JUST HER
9:46:34AM PASSION.
9:46:35AM SHE ENDED UP BEING ONE OF THE GREATEST, GREATEST TEACHERS
9:46:38AM THAT I HAVE EVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING.
9:46:44AM I LOVE HER.
9:46:45AM I LOVE HER FAMILY.
9:46:46AM I AM FAMILY BECAUSE SHE MADE ME FEEL THAT WAY.
9:46:55AM WE'RE GOING TO MISS HER.
9:46:58AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
9:47:00AM AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE KIND WORDS THAT YOU SAID ABOUT HER
9:47:03AM BECAUSE SHE WAS THAT AND SO MUCH MORE.
9:47:05AM THANK YOU.
9:47:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:47:07AM GOD BLESS YOU.
9:47:08AM THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR HEART.
9:47:09AM NEXT WE HAVE MR. RICK KINSEY.
9:47:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:47:14AM I KNEW GWEN WHEN SHE WAS AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.

9:47:17AM I AM A GRADUATE OF TAMPA BAY TECH.
9:47:19AM WE BOTH REUNITED AT FLORIDA A AND M UNIVERSITY.
9:47:25AM SHE IS THE DRAGON RATTLER AND I AM THE TAMPA BAY TECH
9:47:28AM RATTLER.
9:47:28AM AND ONE THING ABOUT THE COUNCILWOMAN AS YOU ALL KNOW AND I'M
9:47:33AM SURE THE SENTIMENTS WOULD BE THE SAME THROUGHOUT, IS SHE HAD
9:47:36AM THE BIGGEST HEART IN THE WORLD.
9:47:38AM I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE EVERYBODY WOULD ECHO
9:47:41AM THAT.
9:47:41AM ONE THING THE COUNCILWOMAN WOULD DO AND WHEN SHE BECAME
9:47:45AM COUNCILWOMAN, I REMEMBER HER CALLING ME.
9:47:47AM I WAS KIND OF HER CONFIDENT.
9:47:50AM I RETIRED OUT OF THE MILITARY, SCHOLARSHIPS, STOOD WITH KIDS
9:47:54AM AT TAMPA BAY TECH.
9:47:55AM PART OF THE TAMPA FAMU ALUMNI IN WHICH SHE WAS OVER
9:47:59AM SCHOLARSHIPS.
9:48:00AM HER HEART AND SOUL WAS ABOUT KIDS, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
9:48:04AM EVERYBODY WOULD TELL THAT STORY BECAUSE IT IS A COMMON
9:48:07AM THREAD.
9:48:07AM GOD GAVE HER THAT OPPORTUNITY AND YOU WILL SEE THAT
9:48:13AM THROUGHOUT I'M SURE WE HEAR THIS.
9:48:16AM JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I WAS STUNNED WHEN I GOT THE CALL
9:48:19AM TUESDAY MORNING.
9:48:21AM JUST SAW HER AT HBCU DAY.
9:48:23AM AS DARLENE WILL PROBABLY TELL YOU, I WAS HER CHIEF OF STAFF.

9:48:26AM YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
9:48:28AM SHE FIRED ME MORE THAN ANYBODY.
9:48:29AM I WAS ALWAYS FIRED.
9:48:31AM WHEN WE HAD OUR NATIONAL CONVENTION, SHE PLAYED A VERY BIG
9:48:37AM ROLE.
9:48:38AM GAVE OUT OVER 13,000 BOOKS.
9:48:40AM SHE CALLED ME THAT MORNING AND SAID YOU ARE FIRED, YOUR
9:48:43AM SISTER IS IN CHARGE.
9:48:45AM I SAID THANK YOU.
9:48:46AM LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU NEED MY SERVICES THE NEXT DAY.
9:48:50AM WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
9:48:52AM IT'S BECAUSE OF HER AND WHAT SHE DID AT THE BOOKSTORE.
9:48:56AM GWEN DIDN'T FORGET WHO SHE WAS.
9:48:58AM WHEN SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, I SAID OKAY,
9:49:02AM JUST REMEMBER THIS, KEEP THE PEOPLE AT YOUR HEART.
9:49:04AM WE WOULD ALWAYS END OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS, NO MATTER
9:49:08AM WHAT YOU DO IN LIFE, JUST REMEMBER THIS, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS
9:49:13AM TRY TO FIND THE WRONG AND YOU'RE RIGHT AND THE BAD AND YOUR
9:49:16AM GOOD.
9:49:17AM CONTINUE TO DO GOOD.
9:49:20AM SHE HAD AN UPHILL BATTLE AND SHE WON.
9:49:23AM IT'S ALL IN GOD'S HANDS.
9:49:25AM WHAT I LOVE ABOUT GWEN, AGAIN, DARLENE CAN ATTEST TO THIS,
9:49:29AM AS YOU KNOW, GWEN TALKS A LOT.
9:49:31AM I THOUGHT I TALKED A LOT, BUT SHE GOT ME BEAT.

9:49:35AM 7:00 IN THE MORNING, ONLY TWO MINUTES, 45 MINUTES LATER.
9:49:38AM GWEN, I HAVE TO GO TO THE VA HOSPITAL SO I HAVE TO GET OFF
9:49:41AM THE PHONE.
9:49:42AM BUT HER PASSION WAS TRULY ABOUT THE KIDS.
9:49:44AM HBCU DAY WAS NOT THE FIRST EVENT.
9:49:47AM SHE HAD AN EVENT ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO AT JEFFERSON HIGH
9:49:50AM SCHOOL.
9:49:50AM WE WERE PROVIDING SCHOLARSHIPS.
9:49:52AM GWEN CALLED ME THAT MORNING, HEY, I NEED YOU TO COME OVER.
9:49:55AM WE HAVE TO GIVE OUT SCHOLARSHIPS.
9:49:57AM I SAID NO WORRIES.
9:49:58AM HOW MANY YOU WANT ME TO GIVE OUT?
9:50:00AM WE END UP GIVING ABOUT 15 STUDENTS THOUSAND DOLLAR
9:50:03AM SCHOLARSHIPS.
9:50:04AM THAT IS THE KIND OF PERSON SHE WAS.
9:50:06AM SHE HAD A WAY OF ASKING BUT SHE WAS TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO.
9:50:11AM COUNCILWOMAN, OKAY.
9:50:12AM AT THAT TIME SHE WASN'T A COUNCILWOMAN.
9:50:14AM SHE WAS GWEN.
9:50:15AM TO ME SHE WAS A COUNCILWOMAN BEFORE SHE KNEW SHE WAS A
9:50:18AM COUNCILWOMAN, RIGHT?
9:50:20AM WE WENT ON.
9:50:21AM THE EVENT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
9:50:23AM ABOUT THREE YEARS AFTER THAT EVENT SHE CALLED ME ONE
9:50:26AM MORNING, HEY, WE NEED TO HAVE IT AT TAMPA BAY TECH.

9:50:28AM I SAID I'M NOT THE PRINCIPAL OF TAMPA BAY TECH.
9:50:32AM WE MOVED THE EVENT TO TAMPA BAY TECH.
9:50:35AM GOT OFF THE PHONE.
9:50:36AM CALLED THE PRINCIPAL.
9:50:37AM BIG FAVOR TO ASK.
9:50:38AM CAN WE HAVE THIS BIG EVENT OVER AT TAMPA BAY TECH.
9:50:41AM THE PRINCIPAL AGREED AND WE DID.
9:50:43AM IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
9:50:44AM BUT GWEN LOVED THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:50:49AM SHE LOVED THESE KIDS.
9:50:51AM AS I SAID, TRUE JEFFERSON DRAGON.
9:50:53AM SHE LOVED FAMU.
9:50:56AM AS I WOULD LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW WHO LOVES FAMU
9:51:01AM MORE, YOU OR ME BECAUSE WE BOTH ALWAYS PUSHED FAMU ON THE
9:51:05AM KIDS BECAUSE OF THE LOVE FOR THE KIDS.
9:51:07AM WHAT I LOVE ABOUT GWEN, SHE WENT OUT ON A LIMB AND EVERYBODY
9:51:11AM SHE MET SHE WAS THEIR FRIEND.
9:51:14AM NOBODY WAS A STRANGER.
9:51:16AM I WOULD LIKE TO TELL EVERYBODY, THIS IS NOT A SAD DAY.
9:51:20AM WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS CONTINUE TO LIVE OUT HER DREAMS
9:51:23AM BECAUSE SHE GOT A CHANCE TO SEE THAT.
9:51:25AM IT'S ONLY GOD THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO HAVE AN HBCU DAY.
9:51:30AM AS I THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I WAS IN SHOCK AS WELL, SHE
9:51:33AM GOT A CHANCE TO SEE THAT THROUGH.
9:51:35AM IMAGINE THAT.

9:51:36AM IF YOU DIDN'T COME TO THAT EVENT, YOU SHOULD HAVE.
9:51:38AM AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, SHE STOLE MY THUNDER, WE HAD A
9:51:42AM PHOTO TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE ALL RATTLERS.
9:51:44AM BUT THAT'S JUST WHO SHE WAS.
9:51:47AM I'M GLAD SHE GOT A CHANCE TO BECOME THE COUNCILWOMAN SHE
9:51:50AM WANTED TO BECOME.
9:51:52AM GLAD SHE GOT A CHANCE TO SEE THIS HBCU DAY HAPPEN.
9:51:56AM ULTIMATELY IT WAS A SAD DAY.
9:51:58AM I STILL, EVEN ON MONDAY, I GOT A TEXT FROM GWEN.
9:52:02AM DARLENE, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WHEN SHE TALKED TO ME ON
9:52:05AM TUESDAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, HEY, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO
9:52:10AM TALK MORE ABOUT THE HBCU DAY FOR NEXT YEAR, WHAT ROLE WE
9:52:13AM WERE GOING TO PLAY IN IT.
9:52:14AM SHE SAID RICKY, BY THE WAY, THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD STILL
9:52:18AM CALL ME RICKY, RIGHT, SHE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT.
9:52:23AM BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF PERSON THAT SHE IS AND SHE WAS.
9:52:26AM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS THAT EVERYBODY CONTINUE TO PUSH
9:52:29AM FORWARD WHAT HER DREAMS WERE.
9:52:30AM AS YOU STATED, THERE ARE THINGS YOU STILL HAVE TO DO.
9:52:34AM THAT'S JUST THE PERSON SHE WAS.
9:52:36AM I LEAVE YOU WHAT I TOLD HER, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS
9:52:40AM LIFE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HARD JOB.
9:52:42AM I RETIRED OUT OF THE MILITARY, SOME OF THE DECISIONS I MADE
9:52:46AM WERE NOT POPULAR, BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE WHO WILL
9:52:50AM TRY TO FIND THE WRONG AND YOUR RIGHT AND YOUR BAD AND YOUR

9:52:54AM GOOD.
9:52:54AM LET'S DO GOOD.
9:52:55AM COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
9:52:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:52:59AM WE APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR WORDS AND HEART.
9:53:02AM THE LAST, BEFORE THE FINAL SECTION, WE HAVE MS. DARLENE
9:53:05AM JOHNSON TO COME FORWARD, THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S
9:53:10AM LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT AND WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PERSON.
9:53:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:53:13AM DARLENE JOHNSON, LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN
9:53:22AM HENDERSON.
9:53:22AM I WAS NOT GOING TO SPEAK, BUT SHE SAID TO ME YOU HAVE TO.
9:53:29AM SO THIS MORNING, FORGIVE ME, BECAUSE MY MESSAGE IS GOING TO
9:53:31AM BE TO HER.
9:53:34AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, THESE ARE THE WORDS THAT THEY ARE
9:53:37AM SAYING ABOUT YOU.
9:53:39AM YOU WERE A GREAT DEBATER.
9:53:41AM YOU'RE FEARLESS.
9:53:44AM YOU ARE AND YOU WERE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH.
9:53:49AM GIRL POWER.
9:53:52AM I GOT YOU.
9:53:53AM COUNCILWOMAN NUMBER 16, I GOT YOU.
9:54:00AM THE MOST BRILLIANT PERSON THAT I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
9:54:07AM WORK WITH.
9:54:10AM THE LOVE LETTER OF BLACK HISTORY THAT YOU HAVE OPENED WITH

9:54:19AM YOUR BOOKSTORE IS COMMENDABLE.
9:54:24AM COUNCILWOMAN, BOSS, I THANK YOU FOR MONDAY, THE LAST DAY
9:54:34AM THAT WE SHARED TOGETHER AND YOU DID WHAT YOU DO BEST.
9:54:39AM YOU STARTED YOUR DAY OUT WITH ACKNOWLEDGING AND RECOGNIZING
9:54:45AM THE KIDS, THE LAUGHTER, THE WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT THAT YOU
9:54:50AM GAVE THEM WILL LIVE ON IN THEIR LIVES FOREVER.
9:54:57AM THE BEAUTY WHEN YOU WALKED IN AND THE SMILE ON YOUR FACE
9:55:02AM BECAUSE YOU RECEIVED YOUR BADGE THAT I HAD BEEN TELLING YOU
9:55:05AM TO GET FOR OVER A YEAR, I'M PROUD OF YOU.
9:55:08AM I'M PROUD -- I FORGAVE YOU FOR BEING LATE BECAUSE YOU WALKED
9:55:13AM UPSTAIRS WITH YOUR BADGE.
9:55:15AM COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:55:18AM BOSS LADY, THANK YOU FOR AGREEING TO GO ON A RIDE-ALONG FOR
9:55:28AM DISTRICT 5.
9:55:30AM THE RIDE-ALONG WAS AMAZING.
9:55:32AM MY JOY TO WATCH YOU ROLL YOUR WINDOW DOWN AND SAY TO PEOPLE,
9:55:39AM I'M YOUR COUNCILPERSON, TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO KNOW AND
9:55:43AM WHAT YOU DON'T THINK I WANT TO KNOW, BUT JUST TELL ME
9:55:46AM BECAUSE I'M HERE.
9:55:47AM COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:55:51AM COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR JUST TAKING THE TIME TO GET
9:55:54AM OUT OF THE CAR AND SAY, PULL THAT BOOK OUT, DARLENE, AND
9:55:58AM CALL THAT CONSTITUENT.
9:56:00AM TELL THEM WE'RE HERE.
9:56:01AM WE'RE IN FRONT OF HER DOOR AND I'M COMING WITH YOU.

9:56:05AM COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR KNOCKING ON THE DOOR AND
9:56:09AM TELLING HER, HER ISSUE OF FIVE YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO GET IT
9:56:14AM TAKEN CARE OF AND THE JOY ON HER FACE WAS JUST UNBELIEVABLE.
9:56:18AM SO COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DID ON YOUR
9:56:24AM LAST DAY.
9:56:26AM TO EVERYONE THAT'S HERE, I SAY THANK YOU.
9:56:34AM HER LEGACY WILL LIVE ON.
9:56:37AM I KNOW THE DESIRE OF HER HEART.
9:56:42AM I KNOW THE THINGS THAT WERE PASSIONATE FOR HER.
9:56:45AM AND I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE REGARDLESS OF
9:56:48AM WHERE I AM THAT THOSE LEGACY LIVE ON.
9:56:52AM I ASK YOU ALL IN THIS ROOM TO DO THE SAME.
9:56:56AM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS FOR MY BOSS.
9:57:01AM I CALL HER THE BOSS LADY.
9:57:02AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN AND YOU
9:57:06AM SAID ABOUT MY BOSS.
9:57:07AM THERE'S BEEN SO MANY QUESTIONS, PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT
9:57:13AM IS NEXT.
9:57:15AM TELL ME HER SERVICES.
9:57:17AM FOR THIS MORNING, I WILL BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE AND SHARE WITH
9:57:20AM EVERYONE THE SERVICES FOR THE COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN
9:57:25AM HENDERSON WILL BE HELD ON THIS TUESDAY, JUNE 17th, 11 A.M.
9:57:31AM AT ALLEN TEMPLE CHURCH LOCATED AT 2101 LOWE STREET IN TAMPA,
9:57:39AM FLORIDA.
9:57:39AM AGAIN, I SAY TO EVERYONE, THE LEGACY LIVES ON IN MY BOSS,

9:57:50AM COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
9:57:51AM THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TODAY.
9:57:53AM IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
9:57:54AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:57:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MS. JOHNSON.
9:57:59AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR HEART AND THE BEAUTIFUL
9:58:01AM PERSON THAT YOU ARE AND THE WORDS THAT YOU SAID ABOUT A
9:58:04AM BEAUTIFUL PERSON, THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON.
9:58:09AM NEXT, WE'LL HAVE REMARKS FROM THE PUBLIC.
9:58:11AM THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:58:12AM THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:58:14AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN
9:58:20AM GWEN HENDERSON, AND NOT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH WILL BE
9:58:23AM LATER, SO WE CAN KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS ARE HERE TO SPEAK,
9:58:26AM PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
9:58:28AM OKAY.
9:58:29AM PLEASE COME FORWARD.
9:58:31AM WE'LL LIMIT REMARKS TO LET'S SAY THREE MINUTES A PERSON.
9:58:37AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE FULL THREE MINUTES.
9:58:39AM I JUST DO THAT TO ACCOMMODATE BECAUSE IT IS AN EMOTIONAL
9:58:42AM TIME AND SO FORTH.
9:58:43AM THIS IS NARROWLY TAILORED TO REMARKS ON COUNCILWOMAN GWEN
9:58:48AM HENDERSON.
9:58:48AM I WOULD ASK FOLKS -- WE'LL GO FORWARD.
9:58:53AM PLEASE COME FORWARD.

9:59:03AM AGAIN, A RAISE OF HANDS IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ONLY ON
9:59:07AM COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON.
9:59:09AM RAISE YOUR HANDS AGAIN.
9:59:11AM >> JOE ROBINSON.
9:59:12AM LISTEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, I NEVER REALLY
9:59:18AM KNEW MS. HENDERSON UNTIL SHE GOT ON THE CAMPAIGN.
9:59:25AM HEARD ON THE RADIO, ON THE PATTY SHOW.
9:59:31AM ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE STARTED CALLING ASKING ME ABOUT
9:59:36AM CAMPAIGNING.
9:59:37AM WHEN SHE WON, SHE CALLED ME.
9:59:39AM WE WOULD BE ON THE PHONE FOR HOURS.
9:59:41AM SHE WANT TO KNOW THIS AND THAT AND THIS AND THAT.
9:59:44AM ON THE PHONE SO LONG, HER DAUGHTER WOULD TEXT ME AND SAY,
9:59:49AM WOULD YOU GET OFF THE PHONE SO I COULD TALK TO MY MAMA.
9:59:52AM MS. HENDERSON WANTS TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND SHE ASKED A
9:59:56AM LOT OF QUESTIONS.
9:59:56AM I DON'T TELL EVERYBODY HOW SHE WOULD CALL ME AND ASK ME A
10:00:01AM WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF GOING ON, GOOD, BAD, UGLY IN THE CITY.
10:00:07AM I WOULD TELL HER THE TRUTH.
10:00:09AM I COME HERE TODAY BECAUSE IT IS A HAPPY DAY THAT SHE WAS
10:00:16AM ABLE TO DO WHAT SHE DID IN DISTRICT FIVE IN THIS CITY, WITH
10:00:20AM ALL THE CONFUSION AND DYSFUNCTIONALITY ON THE BOARD.
10:00:23AM SHE WAS ABLE TO KEEP IT TOGETHER EVEN UNDER THE TENSE
10:00:29AM CONDITIONS OF BEING CALLED ALL KIND OF NAMES.
10:00:33AM I DON'T FORGET ANYTHING.

10:00:34AM THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
10:00:35AM I KEEP THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
10:00:37AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL CITY COUNCIL.
10:00:40AM THANK YOU ALL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:00:45AM THANK YOU, THE COMMUNITY, FOR RECOGNIZING THIS LADY, BECAUSE
10:00:48AM LIFE IS SHORT.
10:00:50AM SHE DIDN'T SERVE LONG, BUT DIDN'T HAVE TO BECAUSE IT WAS
10:00:56AM QUALITY TIME AS THEY CALL IT.
10:00:58AM IT WAS TIME THAT PEOPLE, SHE WOULD BE THE VOICE OF REASON.
10:01:04AM THE VOICE OF REASON.
10:01:05AM I HOPE GOING FORWARD WE CAN TRY TO KEEP THAT REASON.
10:01:09AM BUT WE'VE GOT A BIG LOSS.
10:01:10AM THE VOICE OF REASON IS GONE.
10:01:15AM IT'S 3-3.
10:01:17AM WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES COMING UP IN THE CITY.
10:01:20AM I HOPE YOU ALL REMEMBER WHEN SITTING THERE MAKING,
10:01:23AM DELIBERATING, THAT'S WHY I'M DOWN HERE, I'VE BEEN CALLED
10:01:26AM BACK TO ACTION.
10:01:27AM I'M BACK IN ACTION.
10:01:32AM LOOKING AT THIS.
10:01:32AM I'M HERE TO SAY, THANK YOU GOD ALMIGHTY FOR MS. GWEN --
10:01:38AM GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
10:01:39AM A REAL FRIEND.
10:01:40AM A REAL LADY.
10:01:41AM I REAL LADY.

10:01:42AM SHE WAS DONE WRONG, DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
10:01:46AM YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, INCLUDING HER MAMA, SHE
10:01:50AM TALKED TO ME ABOUT THAT.
10:01:52AM I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
10:01:53AM LET'S THINK POSITIVE AND LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE THE CITY
10:01:56AM FORWARD AND LET'S TAKE CARE OF THE CRAs.
10:02:01AM WE HAVE A BIG LOSS WITH HER NOT BEING THE CHAIR OF THE CRA.
10:02:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:02:05AM I'M GOING TO GO BACK.
10:02:06AM LET'S DO TWO MINUTES JUST BECAUSE OF THE GOOD NUMBER OF
10:02:09AM FOLKS THAT ARE HERE.
10:02:13AM THAT IS A CREDIT TO THE LEGACY OF MS. HENDERSON.
10:02:16AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:02:17AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:02:18AM CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:02:29AM HOPE TO SAY CONDOLENCES TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SITTING
10:02:31AM THERE VERY SOON.
10:02:32AM YOU REALLY THINK BLACK PEOPLE ARE STUPID, ALL THE ACCOLADES.
10:02:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:02:47AM >> I'M TALKING ABOUT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:02:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: THE CLOCK IS STOPPED.
10:02:50AM I'M SPEAKING.
10:02:50AM I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE TAILOR YOUR COMMENTS TO GWEN
10:02:53AM HENDERSON.
10:02:54AM YOU'LL HAVE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AFTERWARDS.

10:02:56AM >> ALL IN REFERENCE TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:02:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
10:02:59AM GO AHEAD.
10:03:00AM I'LL STOP YOU AGAIN IF I HAVE TO.
10:03:03AM >> REVEREND SCOTT CAME UP AND MADE HIS COMMENTS.
10:03:05AM THE MAYOR MADE HER COMMENTS.
10:03:06AM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WHEN YOU SEND A NAVY SEAL TO JUMP
10:03:11AM IN THAT WATER, THEY ARE VETTED.
10:03:15AM THEY ARE CONDITIONED.
10:03:16AM THEY ARE EVERYTHING.
10:03:18AM WHEN THEY SENT GWEN HENDERSON TO SWIM IN THE WATER AGAINST
10:03:21AM ORLANDO GUDES, THEY COULDN'T ENVISION THIS OUTCOME OF AN
10:03:26AM AFRICAN WOMAN DYING AT 60.
10:03:28AM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOU THINK BLACK PEOPLE SO STUPID,
10:03:32AM HER FAMILY NEED TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:03:35AM THE MAYOR AND OTHER PEOPLE --
10:03:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, THAT'S IT.
10:03:38AM ATTORNEY SHEPHARD ON THE LINE?
10:03:41AM I'M GOING TO RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER, SIR.
10:03:48AM COME BACK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:03:49AM THIS ISN'T PROPER.
10:03:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:03:52AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TOO.
10:03:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:03:54AM IS ATTORNEY SHEPHARD ON LINE?

10:03:57AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: YES, I AM.
10:03:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:04:00AM ANYTHING TO SAY OR GOOD TO GO?
10:04:03AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: THIS IS A SPECIFIC TOPIC.
10:04:08AM IT WAS CERTAINLY I THINK A LITTLE FAR AFIELD OF THE PURPOSE.
10:04:12AM AT THE RIGHT TIME, IF ASKED, I WILL GIVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT
10:04:14AM RULES GENERALLY.
10:04:15AM WHEN WE START GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WE CAN MAKE SURE WE
10:04:18AM REFRESH THOSE RULES.
10:04:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:04:20AM APPRECIATE YOU.
10:04:20AM REVEREND, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:04:22AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:22AM MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
10:04:27AM 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
10:04:29AM GWEN HENDERSON, GWEN I CALL HER.
10:04:37AM WE BUMP HEADS.
10:04:38AM WE BUMP HEADS A LOT BECAUSE I WANTED HER TO NOT TO LOOK AT
10:04:43AM ME AS A MAN OF COLOR.
10:04:46AM LOOK AT ME AS A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
10:04:49AM AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
10:04:51AM WE BUMP HEADS A LOT.
10:04:56AM THANK GOD I GOT A CHANCE TO MEET HER.
10:04:59AM I FOUND OUT SHE WAS A VERY NICE WOMAN.
10:05:02AM ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT SHE WAS A VERY

10:05:05AM NICE PERSON.
10:05:07AM DARLENE COME TO ME WHEN I GOT OFF THE ELEVATOR AND SHE WAS
10:05:18AM HAPPY.
10:05:18AM SHE SAID, PASTOR WILLIAMS, THEY APPROVE OF WHAT YOU WANT TO
10:05:26AM HAVE DONE TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:05:29AM I WAS HAPPY TOO.
10:05:32AM YEAH, TO MY HOUSE.
10:05:34AM WHEN I SAY NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE IN
10:05:39AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:05:42AM GWEN CALLED ME ON THE TELEPHONE, SAID, PASTOR WILLIAMS,
10:05:50AM YOU'VE BEEN APPROVED.
10:05:52AM I SAID THANK GOD FOR THAT.
10:05:56AM THAT THING RUN FAST ON ME.
10:05:58AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:05:59AM YOU ALL HAVE TO GIVE ME MORE TIME BECAUSE I'M HANDICAPPED
10:06:03AM AND MY WORDS COME OUT A LOT SLOWER.
10:06:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL GIVE YOU, REVEREND, 30 SECONDS EXTRA.
10:06:09AM YOU'LL STILL GET MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:06:13AM >> THANK YOU.
10:06:13AM IT'S ALL ABOUT NOW ABOUT GWEN HENDERSON.
10:06:17AM IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU ALL.
10:06:20AM IT'S NOT ABOUT PASTOR WILLIAMS AND IT'S NOT ABOUT
10:06:27AM MS. HENDERSON, MS. JOHNSON.
10:06:29AM IT'S ALL ABOUT HER.
10:06:31AM WE KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE A HOME-GOING, AND IT WILL BE A

10:06:36AM HOME-GOING.
10:06:37AM YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING?
10:06:39AM IT WILL BE A HAPPY HOME-GOING.
10:06:42AM BECAUSE SHE'S DONE WHAT SHE COULD IN TAMPA, AND SHE DID THE
10:06:47AM BEST SHE COULD.
10:06:48AM I'M GRATEFUL TO GOD FOR HER.
10:06:51AM GOD HAS BLESSED US ALL IN A MIGHTY WAY.
10:06:54AM I'M STILL HERE AND PUSHING --
10:06:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: REVEREND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:57AM YOU CAN COME BACK AT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR MORE.
10:06:59AM BUT WE'RE LIMITING THIS TO TWO MINUTES.
10:07:02AM WE APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.
10:07:03AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10:07:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: GOD BLESS YOU.
10:07:05AM THANK YOU.
10:07:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMAN AND COUNCILMEN.
10:07:15AM RYAN HAYES.
10:07:16AM I WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY, CONSTITUENTS,
10:07:19AM FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL.
10:07:21AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON REALLY INSPIRED ME.
10:07:26AM I ASKED FOR A MEETING WITH HER.
10:07:29AM I HAD A MEETING WITH HER MARCH 31st.
10:07:32AM I WAS ABLE TO MEET HER IN HER OFFICE.
10:07:34AM WE HAD ABOUT A 30-MINUTE CONVERSATIONS.
10:07:37AM JUST INSIGHTFUL CONVERSATION THAT WE SHARED.

10:07:43AM IT WAS HEARTFELT.
10:07:44AM I ON BEHALF OF CAIRO AND FRIENDS FROM HERE ON OUT, THIS IS
10:07:48AM NOT A FUND-RAISER OR ANYTHING, I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY
10:07:51AM EVERY YEAR THAT THE BLACK ENGLISH BOOKSTORE IS STILL
10:07:56AM STANDING, I WOULD LIKE TO BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTS TO
10:07:59AM BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH FAMILY MEMBERS AND SO FORTH TO GIVE
10:08:04AM OUT SCHOOL SUPPLIES TO THE LOCAL CHILDREN AND ESPECIALLY
10:08:08AM JEFFERSON AS WELL, JUST TO KEEP HER LEGACY GOING AND MAKE
10:08:10AM SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RECIPROCATED TO OUR
10:08:14AM COMMUNITY.
10:08:14AM AGAIN, MY CONDOLENCES.
10:08:17AM POSITIVE ENERGY AND VIBRATIONS SENT TO ALL OF YOU ALL.
10:08:20AM HER FAMILY MEMBERS AND SO FORTH.
10:08:23AM THAT'S IT.
10:08:24AM AGAIN, POSITIVE ENERGY.
10:08:26AM THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
10:08:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:08:29AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:08:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:08:32AM STEVE MICHELINI.
10:08:34AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GWEN USED TO SAY TO ME WAS,
10:08:36AM MICHELINI, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
10:08:39AM IT WASN'T CAN WE DO THIS.
10:08:42AM IT'S WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
10:08:43AM ANYWAY, THIS IS FOR -- GWEN WAS A CHILD OF GOD WHO WELCOMED

10:08:49AM OTHERS AND ALL-EMBRACING LOVE.
10:08:51AM SHE BLAZED TRAILS, MENTORED HER STUDENTS AND LET NOTHING
10:08:56AM DISSUADE HER PASSION.
10:08:58AM WHEN SHE SPOKE, OTHERS LISTENED AND ACTED.
10:09:01AM WHEN SHE SAW DIFFICULTY, SHE ADDRESSED IT AND RIGHTED IT.
10:09:04AM WHEN SHE SAW ADVERSITY, SHE ATTACKED IT.
10:09:07AM SHE WAS BLESSED WITH AN INQUISITIVE MIND AND WAS NEVER
10:09:10AM AFRAID TO ASK THE QUESTION.
10:09:14AM AS A CHILD OF GOD, SHE WAS WRAPPED IN HIS LOVING ARMS AND
10:09:17AM WAS BLESSED.
10:09:18AM SHE GAVE TO OTHERS LIKE NO OTHERS AND RECEIVED THEIR LOVE IN
10:09:22AM RETURN.
10:09:22AM SHE SHARED HER BLESSINGS WITH OTHERS AS IF THERE WERE NO END
10:09:26AM TO IT AND HER DEVOTION WAS UNCONDITIONAL.
10:09:29AM WHEN SHE TRIED TO UNDERSTAND THE PASSING OF A FRIEND,
10:09:33AM COLLEAGUE, OR LOVED ONE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, AND
10:09:36AM THERE IS NO ADEQUATE ANSWER.
10:09:38AM IT RARELY COMES WHEN IT'S EXPECTED AND ALWAYS FAR TOO SOON.
10:09:43AM WE LONG FOR THAT MEETING, THAT LAST DISCUSSION, THAT LAST
10:09:46AM ENCOUNTER.
10:09:47AM ALTHOUGH SHE IS GONE, SHE LIVES ON THROUGH OUR MEMORIES.
10:09:52AM DON'T ASK TO UNDERSTAND.
10:09:53AM IT'S NOT UP TO US.
10:09:54AM WE ARE PLANTED ON THIS EARTH WITH NO SCRIPT.
10:09:57AM WE WRITE OUR OWN.

10:09:58AM IT'S FILLED WITH PROMISE AND HEARTBREAK AND EQUAL MEASURES
10:10:01AM AND MASTERS OF OUR FATE.
10:10:03AM PLEASE LET ME CONTINUE.
10:10:05AM THE STRUGGLE OF LIFE AND THE LEGACY AND THE MASTERY OF OUR
10:10:09AM AGENDA IS LEFT TO US AND OTHERS AS WE INTERACT WITH THEM.
10:10:14AM OUR LIVES ARE MEASURED BY WHAT WE LEAVE BEHIND.
10:10:18AM GWEN'S BOOK IS FULL AND YET UNFINISHED HERE.
10:10:20AM WE WILL MISS HER HEARTY LAUGH, HER INFECTIOUS SMILE, AND THE
10:10:25AM LOVE OF HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS, STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY, NOT
10:10:28AM THE LEAST OF WHICH IS TAMPA.
10:10:29AM THE GOOD LORD WANTED HER AND TOOK HER IN TO PERFORM GOOD
10:10:34AM DEEDS AND BE IN HIS LOVING ARMS.
10:10:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: 15 SECONDS.
10:10:37AM >> GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU, GWEN.
10:10:39AM YOU WILL BE MISSED.
10:10:41AM GOD BLESS, RESPECTFULLY.
10:10:42AM THANK YOU.
10:10:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:10:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:44AM MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
10:10:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:10:52AM VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:10:53AM HER NICKNAME FOR ME WAS PONCE De LEON BECAUSE EVERY TIME I
10:10:57AM GET UP TO TALK, I'M FROM PONCE De LEON, COLLEGE HILL.
10:11:02AM ANYWHERE SHE SEE ME, SHE GOES THERE'S PONCE De LEON.

10:11:06AM ONE THING I CAN SAY ABOUT COUNCILWOMAN, EDUCATION WAS IN HER
10:11:11AM DNA.
10:11:12AM IT'S NOT THAT SHE WAS AN EDUCATOR.
10:11:15AM IT WAS JUST PART OF WHO SHE WAS.
10:11:18AM AND SHE REALLY TRIED TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
10:11:21AM I KNOW ONE DAY WE WAS IN HERE, AND I WAS GOING BACK AND
10:11:25AM FORTH ABOUT THE CRA NOT DOING ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME IN
10:11:30AM EAST TAMPA.
10:11:31AM CEDRIC GOT UP HERE TO TALK, SHE KEPT CUTTING CEDRIC OFF.
10:11:34AM CEDRIC, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THIS, CEDRIC, COULD YOU EXPLAIN
10:11:37AM THAT?
10:11:37AM I KNOW SHE AIN'T TRYING TO LECTURE ME FROM UP THERE, BUT SHE
10:11:42AM WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS.
10:11:44AM I HAVE A LOT OF ADMIRATION AND RESPECT FOR HER AS AN
10:11:49AM EDUCATOR BECAUSE YOU MIGHT KNOW HOW TO PLAY BASKETBALL, BUT
10:11:54AM YOU'RE NOT EDUCATED ON EVERYTHING.
10:11:56AM YOU HAVE TO RESPECT PEOPLE FOR THEIR EXPERTISE AND THAT IS
10:11:59AM WHAT I DID.
10:12:00AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
10:12:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:12:03AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:12:04AM SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:12:07AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
10:12:09AM BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION.
10:12:14AM I WANT TO EXTEND MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

10:12:16AM VERY BRIEF, THE FIRST TIME I MET GWEN HENDERSON SHE WALKED
10:12:20AM INTO MY OFFICE.
10:12:21AM VICE PRESIDENTS ABOUT MY HEIGHT, 6'2".
10:12:24AM SHE WALKED IN THE DOOR, IMMEDIATELY DRAGGED US BY THE NECK
10:12:27AM DOWN TO OUR HEIGHT AND HUGGED US AND TOLD US THIS IS WHY
10:12:30AM YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPORT US IN THE RACE.
10:12:33AM NO SMALL FEAT.
10:12:34AM SHE WAS RUNNING AGAINST AN ACTIVE CITY COUNCILMAN WHO WAS A
10:12:37AM FORMER TAMPA POLICE OFFICER.
10:12:38AM WE DID SUPPORT HER IN THAT RACE.
10:12:40AM AND THERE WERE SOME DISGUSTING THINGS SAID ABOUT HER.
10:12:43AM WE STOOD BY HER AND I'M PROUD OF IT.
10:12:46AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:12:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:12:48AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:12:48AM MR. HEARNS, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:12:53AM >> GOOD MORNING TO THE CRA BOARD, CITY OF TAMPA STAFF AND
10:12:59AM EVERYONE HERE ASSEMBLED TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE RESPECT
10:13:03AM AND THE LOVE, THE ADMIRATION THAT WE ALL HAD FOR CITY
10:13:10AM COUNCIL WOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
10:13:13AM THE DAY I MET HER IS THE DAY I ENDORSED HER IN HER CAMPAIGN.
10:13:17AM DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HER, BUT THERE WAS JUST SOMETHING
10:13:20AM ABOUT HER.
10:13:20AM WELL, FIRST OF ALL, SHE WAS A DELTA.
10:13:23AM SO THAT WENT A LONG WAY.

10:13:24AM I'M AN OMEGA PSI PHI FRATERNITY MAN AND THESE ARE OUR
10:13:30AM SISTERS.
10:13:30AM THE MORE I GOT TO KNOW HER, I SAID THIS WOMAN IS DYNAMIC.
10:13:34AM SHE IS GOING TO MAKE A GREAT IMPACT ON THIS CITY, AND SHE
10:13:39AM DID.
10:13:39AM YESTERDAY, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES TO
10:13:44AM THE FAMILY AND TO DARLENE WHO I THINK I CALLED DARLENE JUST
10:13:49AM ABOUT EVERY WEEK.
10:13:50AM I DON'T WANT TO BOTHER GWEN, BUT THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE
10:13:53AM FOR YOU TO SHARE WITH HER.
10:13:54AM EVERY TIME WE INVITED HER TO AN ACTIVITY THAT TAMPA'S BLACK
10:14:01AM HISTORY MUSEUM HAD, SHE WAS THERE.
10:14:03AM BACK IN OCTOBER, I MOVED BACK TO TAMPA.
10:14:07AM I HAD BEEN LIVING IN ST. PETERSBURG FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS,
10:14:10AM BUT I'M BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I GREW UP IN DISTRICT FIVE,
10:14:16AM HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
10:14:18AM AND WE HAD A REUNION THREE YEARS AGO.
10:14:21AM WE NEVER HAD A BELMONT HEIGHTS REUNION.
10:14:23AM GWEN MADE OUR SHIRTS.
10:14:26AM GWEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
10:14:29AM THE LAST TIME I SAW HER WAS AT PERRY HARVEY PARK AT A RIBBON
10:14:33AM CUTTING, AND I WAS RUNNING A LITTLE LATE COMING FROM ANOTHER
10:14:37AM MEETING, AND EVERYTHING WENT FINE, BUT AS WE WERE LEAVING
10:14:39AM THE FIELD OVER AT PERRY HARVEY PARK, SHE SAID, NOW, YOU
10:14:43AM KNOW, FRED, YOU WERE LATE.

10:14:45AM YOU MADE US WAIT OUT IN THE 90-DEGREE HOT SUN FOR ALMOST 30
10:14:49AM MINUTES.
10:14:50AM SHE SAID IT WITH A SMILE ON HER FACE, BUT SHE WAS RIGHT.
10:14:54AM BUSINESS IS BUSINESS.
10:14:55AM SHE WAS ALL ABOUT BUSINESS AND LOVE.
10:14:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: 30 MORE SECONDS.
10:15:01AM >> I'LL END TO SAY.
10:15:02AM I AGREE.
10:15:02AM I REALLY DO HOPE YOU WILL TAKE INTO SERIOUS CONSIDERATION
10:15:05AM THOSE PROJECTS, PET PROJECTS THAT SHE LOVED AND THAT SHE
10:15:10AM WORKED FOR.
10:15:11AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:15:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:15:12AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:15:14AM MR. PROBASCO, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:15:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:15:18AM I THINK ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THINGS ABOUT A SAD DAY
10:15:21AM LIKE TODAY IS YOU DO SEE THE BREADTH OF THE LIVES THAT
10:15:25AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON TOUCHED.
10:15:27AM I THINK YOU HEARD A LOT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT YOU HAVEN'T
10:15:30AM HEARD FROM THE JEWISH COMMUNITY YET.
10:15:32AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS A DEAR FRIEND TO OUR JEWISH
10:15:35AM COMMUNITY.
10:15:36AM ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTERS AND
10:15:39AM FEDERATION, OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, OUR STAFF, AND THE

10:15:41AM ENTIRE JEWISH COMMUNITY, WE EXTEND OUR HEARTFELT CONDOLENCES
10:15:45AM TO THE FAMILY, FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES OF COUNCILWOMAN
10:15:48AM GWENDOLYN HENDERSON ON HER UNTIMELY PASSING.
10:15:51AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S KINDNESS, DEDICATION, AND SERVICE
10:15:55AM UPLIFTED OUR CITY AND INSPIRED ALL WHO KNEW HER.
10:15:58AM THE LATE RABBI JONATHAN SAX ONCE OBSERVED, THE PEOPLE MOST
10:16:04AM MOURNED WERE PEOPLE WHO ENHANCED THE LIVES OF OTHERS.
10:16:07AM THEY WERE KIND.
10:16:08AM YOU COULD RELY ON THEM.
10:16:10AM THEY HAD A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY.
10:16:13AM THEY WERE PART OF A COMMUNITY LIVING ITS VALUES, SHARING ITS
10:16:16AM GRIEFS AND CELEBRATIONS.
10:16:18AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON TRULY EMBODIED THIS SPIRIT.
10:16:23AM LED BY LIFTING OTHERS, STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH
10:16:26AM HER COMPASSION AND COMMITMENT.
10:16:28AM MAY WE HONOR HER LEGACY BY BUILDING A MORE CARING TAMPA
10:16:32AM TOGETHER.
10:16:32AM MAY HER MEMORY ALWAYS BE A BLESSING.
10:16:36AM THANK YOU.
10:16:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:16:37AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:16:38AM MS. TATE.
10:16:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:16:43AM FRAN TATE, PRESIDENT OF THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
10:16:47AM ASSOCIATION AND A MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA CAC BOARD.

10:16:52AM ON BEHALF OF JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND
10:16:57AM THE EAST TAMPA CAC BOARD, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS
10:17:02AM CONDOLENCES TO ALL OF YOU, HER COLLEAGUES, TO HER FAMILY,
10:17:10AM THE MAYOR, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY OF DISTRICT FIVE.
10:17:13AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND I ARE SISTERS IN CHRIST, AND I
10:17:25AM RESPECTED HER FOR THAT.
10:17:26AM I WISH WE COULD HAVE BEEN A WHOLE LOT CLOSER, BUT IT WAS
10:17:31AM COMING.
10:17:32AM IT WAS COMING.
10:17:33AM I DID NOT SERVE ON HER CAMPAIGN.
10:17:35AM I SERVED ON ANOTHER CAMPAIGN, HER OPPONENT.
10:17:38AM THE DAY SHE RECEIVED HER INAUGURATION, I COULDN'T MAKE IT TO
10:17:45AM THAT BUT I RUSHED DOWN HERE TO CONGRATULATE HER WHEN SHE
10:17:50AM BECAME THE CHAIR OF THE CRA.
10:17:51AM LIKE I SAID, WE WEREN'T ON THE TAME TEAM, BUT I RESPECTED
10:18:00AM HER BECAUSE SHE WAS MY COUNCILWOMAN.
10:18:03AM I AM SO SORRY FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HER.
10:18:10AM I REALLY WANTED TO GET TO KNOW HER A WHOLE LOT BETTER AND WE
10:18:13AM PROBABLY WOULD HAVE, BUT IT JUST TOOK TIME.
10:18:16AM GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
10:18:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:18:18AM WE APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING YOUR HEART.
10:18:20AM MR. STOCCO.
10:18:22AM THEN MS. LOCKETT.
10:18:23AM AND MS. BURTON.

10:18:25AM ANYONE ELSE?
10:18:25AM GREAT.
10:18:27AM IF YOU ALL COULD STAND UP IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO AND LINE
10:18:31AM UP SO WE KNOW.
10:18:32AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:18:34AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:18:35AM NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
10:18:42AM I THINK PRESIDENT TATE MIGHT HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT MY NOTES
10:18:45AM BECAUSE SHE SPOKE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD IN COMMON.
10:18:50AM HOWEVER, ON BEHALF OF THE FIREFIGHTERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:18:53AM WE DO WANT TO EXTEND OUR CONDOLENCES TO NOT ONLY HER
10:18:56AM COLLEAGUES AND HER COWORKERS AND TO DARLENE, BUT ALSO HER
10:19:01AM FAMILY AND KNOW THAT IF ANYTHING IS NEEDED WE WOULD BE THERE
10:19:06AM IN SUPPORT.
10:19:07AM WE SHARED IT WITH THE CHAIRMAN ON THE TUESDAY MORNING, BUT
10:19:11AM WE TRULY MEAN THAT.
10:19:12AM IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US.
10:19:15AM THANK YOU.
10:19:16AM AS FOR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WE HAD A UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP.
10:19:23AM IT DID START OUT EARLY.
10:19:26AM WE MAY HAVE NOT ALWAYS SEEN EYE TO EYE OR MAY NOT HAVE
10:19:32AM AGREED ON THE SAME TOPICS, BUT WHERE I TRULY FELT AND
10:19:36AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS HER STRENGTH, HER PASSION, AND
10:19:40AM HER FEARLESSNESS AS A COUNCILWOMAN IN HER DISTRICT.
10:19:48AM HER PASSIONATE KIND OF RESEMBLED THE PASSION WE CARRY, WHICH

10:19:53AM IS WHY I NEVER TOOK IT PERSONAL COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:19:56AM I TOOK IT AS BUSINESS AND I KNEW THAT SHE WAS DOING HER JOB
10:19:59AM AND THAT SHE DID HER JOB WELL.
10:20:01AM AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE FIREFIGHTERS, WE EXTEND OUR
10:20:04AM CONDOLENCES AND THANK YOU.
10:20:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PRESIDENT STOCCO, I WANTED TO ADDRESS YOU
10:20:12AM PERSONALLY AND THANK, FOR YOUR MEMBERSHIP ON BEHALF OF THE
10:20:15AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE CRA BOARD, IT WAS YOUR MEMBERS
10:20:19AM THAT RESPONDED TO THE MEDICAL EMERGENCY FOR OUR COLLEAGUE,
10:20:24AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:20:25AM ON BEHALF OF US, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND HOW
10:20:28AM GRATEFUL WE ARE FOR YOUR WORK THAT YOUR MEMBERS DID THAT
10:20:32AM MORNING.
10:20:32AM ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:20:35AM >> THANK YOU.
10:20:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:20:37AM MS. LOCKETT, GO AHEAD.
10:20:39AM AND THEN IF I MAY, AFTER MS. LOCKETT, WE HAVE CHIEF TRIPP
10:20:42AM WHO IS VIRTUALLY AND WISHES TO SPEAK.
10:20:45AM >> SHE CAN GO BEFORE ME.
10:20:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:20:48AM CHIEF TRIPP, IF YOU ARE THERE, YOU MAY GO FORWARD, MA'AM.
10:20:51AM IF YOU ARE READY.
10:20:52AM OKAY.
10:20:57AM MS. LOCKETT, GO AHEAD AND THEN WE'LL HAVE CHIEF TRIPP.

10:21:00AM IF SHE'S AVAILABLE.
10:21:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:21:04AM ROBIN LOCKETT, FLORIDA RISING.
10:21:07AM MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.
10:21:11AM MY HEART IS FULL.
10:21:13AM I RECEIVED THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE COUNCILWOMAN --
10:21:18AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S PASSING EARLY TUESDAY MORNING.
10:21:22AM AND WE WERE SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH HER 5:30 THAT AFTERNOON.
10:21:29AM SO IT WAS A SHOCK FOR ME.
10:21:36AM I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY THE MONDAY PRIOR, THE
10:21:40AM PREVIOUS MONDAY.
10:21:40AM THEY ASKED ME, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GWEN HENDERSON?
10:21:43AM I WOULD GET THAT QUESTION.
10:21:45AM WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GWEN HENDERSON?
10:21:47AM I WOULD SAY I LIKE GWEN.
10:21:49AM I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HER FILL THAT SEAT TO ITS
10:21:55AM CAPACITY BECAUSE SHE WAS BOLD ENOUGH TO SAY THINGS THAT A
10:22:00AM LOT OF PEOPLE WOULDN'T SAY AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAD
10:22:05AM STATED.
10:22:06AM SHE KNEW THAT I WAS -- I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THE YELLOW JACKETS.
10:22:11AM YOU TALK ABOUT LEGACIES, CONTINUING THE LEGACY, THE
10:22:16AM EXPECTATION IS THAT IS ONE THING SHE WAS WORKING ON AND YOU
10:22:18AM GUYS CONTINUE WITH HER NOT BEING HERE TO SUPPORT THAT
10:22:22AM LEGACY.
10:22:24AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOT THE HIJACKED

10:22:30AM NAME OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR
10:22:34AM THE COMMUNITY IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
10:22:35AM WATCHING HER ON THE DAIS WAS INTERESTING A WHOLE LOT OF
10:22:44AM TIMES, RIGHT, AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
10:22:46AM LIKE I SAID, SHE WOULD SAY THINGS THAT NO ONE ELSE COULD
10:22:50AM SAY.
10:22:52AM THINGS THAT SHE CARED ABOUT.
10:22:56AM I LOVED THE FACT -- WHEN YOU ALL WERE GIVING AWAY MONEY, SHE
10:22:59AM WAS SAYING, OH, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU ALL GIVE AWAY THAT MUCH
10:23:02AM MONEY?
10:23:02AM I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND GIVE MORE MONEY TOO.
10:23:05AM BUT IT WAS ABOUT THAT EQUITY, THINGS THAT WEREN'T DONE.
10:23:09AM I APPLAUD THE FACT THAT SHE TOOK IT UPON HERSELF TO CHANGE
10:23:15AM THE POLICY WITH JULIAN B. LANE, WHEN CATERERS WERE REQUIRED
10:23:21AM TO HAVE ALCOHOL LICENSE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
10:23:24AM AND SHE ROLLED IT BACK.
10:23:25AM SO THAT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS FOR HER.
10:23:29AM BUT SHE WILL BE MISSED.
10:23:30AM I HOPE WHOEVER RUNS OR GETS IN THAT SEAT HAS THE SAME
10:23:36AM TENACITY THAT SHE DID, AND CARES ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
10:23:39AM THANK YOU.
10:23:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:23:40AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:23:41AM I KNOW CHIEF TRIPP WAS WORKING ON GETTING -- IS SHE THERE.
10:23:48AM GREAT.

10:23:49AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:23:49AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE NOW TWO MORE SPEAKERS.
10:23:56AM THERE IS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN.
10:24:00AM >> HI.
10:24:01AM MIMI MARTINEZ.
10:24:02AM I LIVE IN YBOR HEIGHTS.
10:24:03AM FIRST, I WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AND
10:24:07AM FRIENDS OF MS. HENDERSON.
10:24:09AM I ALSO WANT TO LET EVERYBODY PUBLICLY KNOW THAT SHE HAS BEEN
10:24:15AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF YBOR HEIGHTS AND VM YBOR.
10:24:19AM I FIRST MET GWEN ON THE NIGHT THAT SHE WON.
10:24:22AM I WAS IN YBOR, AT GUIDO MANISCALCO'S WATCH PARTY.
10:24:25AM I KNEW THAT SHE WAS HAVING A WATCH PARTY AT 7th AND GROVE.
10:24:32AM WENT DOWN AND CONGRATULATED HER.
10:24:34AM SHE WAS THRILLED BECAUSE SHE SAID I WAS HER FIRST
10:24:38AM CONSTITUENT TO CONGRATULATE HER.
10:24:39AM WE EXCHANGED CONTACT AND KEPT IN CLOSE COMMUNICATION EVER
10:24:43AM SINCE.
10:24:43AM SHE INVITED ME TO HER BLACK ENGLISH OPENING OF HER
10:24:46AM BOOKSTORE.
10:24:47AM I HAD A MEETING WITH HER AT HER BOOKSTORE.
10:24:49AM HAD A MEETING WITH HER IN HER OFFICE.
10:24:52AM I TEXT DARLENE ALL THE TIME AND TALK TO DARLENE ON THE
10:24:55AM PHONE.
10:24:56AM SHE'S SMILING BECAUSE SHE KNOWS I WAS ALWAYS IN HER EAR.

10:25:03AM I JUST SAW HER.
10:25:05AM WE HAD TUESDAY TPD EVENT, SIGNAL 87 AT RAGAN PARK CENTER.
10:25:11AM SHE WAS THERE.
10:25:11AM I WAS IN HER EAR TALKING ABOUT NEBRASKA SAVE.
10:25:15AM SHE WOULD BACK ME UP AND BIG SUPPORTER OF BORRELL PARK AND
10:25:20AM DEVELOPING NEBRASKA AVENUE.
10:25:22AM I LOVED THAT SHE WAS CHAIR OF CRA.
10:25:24AM HE WOULD LISTEN TO EVERYBODY'S OPINION AND VALUE EVERYBODY'S
10:25:27AM PERSPECTIVE.
10:25:28AM SHE MAY NOT HAVE VOTED THE WAY I WANTED HER TO BUT SHE
10:25:33AM ALWAYS LISTENED AND WAS A BIG SUPPORTER.
10:25:35AM SHE WILL BE SORELY MISSED.
10:25:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:25:39AM CHIEF TRIPP.
10:25:39AM MS. BURTON, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:25:43AM TWO THINGS I WANTED TO SAY BEFORE, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE
10:25:47AM FLAG WILL FLY AT HALF-STAFF TODAY IN HONOR OF LATE
10:25:50AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:25:52AM AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING THIS TIME OUT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY
10:25:55AM ON THE LEGACY OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BECAUSE IT'S SO
10:25:57AM IMPORTANT TO PAY TRIBUTE TO HER.
10:25:59AM WE'RE TAKING OUR TIME OUT ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT
10:26:03AM THING TO DO AND IT'S IMPORTANT.
10:26:05AM MS. BURTON.
10:26:06AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:26:07AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:26:08AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:26:08AM TO HER FAMILY, MY DEEPEST CONDOLENCES.
10:26:16AM TO HER AIDE, DARLENE, THAT WAS REALLY A SOLID ROCK AS I SAW
10:26:22AM IT.
10:26:23AM SOMEBODY WHO SOFTENED BRIDGE OF APPROACH.
10:26:26AM ANYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT AFRICAN WOMEN, WE CAN SCREAM
10:26:32AM AND END, IT WOULDN'T BE OUR OPINION OF EACH OTHER.
10:26:35AM MY SADNESS COMES FROM THE FACT THAT HER SHORT LIFE SPAN
10:26:42AM REPRESENTS WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY DAY BY DAY.
10:26:45AM THE FACT THAT MANY BLACK FOLKS, LIKE MS. HENDERSON DON'T GET
10:26:50AM A CHANCE TO ENJOY THEIR RETIREMENT.
10:26:51AM DON'T GET A CHANCE TO ENJOY LIFE TO THE FULLEST BECAUSE
10:26:56AM WE'RE ALWAYS CONSTANTLY DEALING WITH STRESS.
10:26:57AM I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS DEALING WITH STRESS AS IT RELATES TO
10:27:01AM HOW BLACK FOLKS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH QUALITY HOUSING, HOW WE
10:27:05AM DON'T HAVE JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:27:06AM HOW WE SEE INFLUX OF INCARCERATION OF OUR PEOPLE.
10:27:11AM HOW WE DON'T SEE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE HAVING A FUTURE.
10:27:15AM IF I WAS IN HER EAR, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
10:27:17AM NOT NOTHING PERSONAL, BUT HOW DO BLACK LIVES IMPROVE AND HOW
10:27:21AM DO THE QUALITY OF OUR PEOPLE IMPROVE.
10:27:24AM FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO BE INTERNALLY MISSING HER BECAUSE AT
10:27:29AM LEAST WE KNEW SHE WOULD LISTEN TO THAT.
10:27:33AM AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE GET BEYOND THE GRIEF PART.

10:27:40AM HOW WOULD YOU THEN CARRY OUT HER LEGACY.
10:27:42AM WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
10:27:43AM WHAT IS THIS MAYOR PREPARED TO DO?
10:27:45AM BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER STACKING OF THE DECK AGAINST
10:27:48AM THE COMMUNITY, BUT WHAT WE NEED IS SOMEBODY THAT WILL BE
10:27:52AM COMPASSIONATE.
10:27:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: APPRECIATE YOU.
10:27:55AM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, NO ONE ELSE IN THE ROOM IS HERE TO
10:27:58AM SPEAK, CORRECT?
10:27:59AM JUST MAKING SURE.
10:28:00AM IS CHIEF TRIPP AVAILABLE?
10:28:06AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:28:08AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:28:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
10:28:10AM THANK YOU.
10:28:11AM CHIEF TRIPP, JUST ONE SECOND, IF I MAY, MA'AM.
10:28:16AM THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE VIRTUALLY ON PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:28:18AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK SOLELY
10:28:21AM ON COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:28:23AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: OKAY.
10:28:24AM THANK YOU.
10:28:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:28:26AM IT WOULD APPEAR NOT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING.
10:28:29AM CHIEF TRIPP, GO FOR IT, MA'AM.
10:28:31AM WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

10:28:33AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:28:34AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
10:28:35AM THIS IS CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF AT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
10:28:38AM MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING PRESENT DUE TO ANOTHER
10:28:41AM COMMITMENT.
10:28:41AM I COULDN'T GO A DAY WITHOUT GIVING HONOR AND RESPECT TO
10:28:46AM COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
10:28:48AM SHE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A CHAMPION FOR ME SINCE I'VE BEEN IN
10:28:53AM POSITION, SINCE I HAVE KNOWN HER.
10:28:55AM SHE IS DEFINITELY A CHAMPION TO NOT ONLY WOMEN BUT
10:28:59AM SUCCESSFUL WOMEN.
10:29:00AM AND WOMEN WHO HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL, TO EMPOWER THEM TO
10:29:04AM BE SUCCESSFUL.
10:29:04AM EVERY EVENT THAT I ATTEND THAT SHE IS A PART OF, SHE ALWAYS
10:29:09AM WELCOMED ME AND SAYS THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
10:29:12AM NOT ONLY THAT, SHE ENCOURAGED ME TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE
10:29:15AM MYSELF AND EXPOSE MYSELF AND MY CAREER SO OTHER INDIVIDUALS,
10:29:19AM FOR THE GIRLS, BOYS COULD SEE THE SUCCESS, NOT ONLY FOR THE
10:29:24AM AFRICAN AMERICAN RACE BUT ALL RACES.
10:29:25AM SHE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN UNITY.
10:29:27AM SHE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE TRULY MISSED FROM ME AS WELL
10:29:30AM AS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE BECAUSE SHE WAS A CHAMPION FOR TAMPA
10:29:35AM FIRE RESCUE, TO ASSIST US TO GET WHAT WE NEED TO GET.
10:29:38AM I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO LIVE HER LEGACY AND CONTINUE TO
10:29:41AM PUT MYSELF OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AS SHE LEFT HER NAME

10:29:46AM AROUND TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD HER POSITIVITY AND
10:29:50AM HER LOVE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:29:51AM JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU ALL FOR
10:29:54AM HONORING HER TODAY.
10:29:55AM GOD BLESS.
10:29:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP.
10:29:57AM GOD BLESS YOU.
10:29:57AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
10:29:59AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE.
10:30:00AM GO AHEAD.
10:30:01AM PLEASE.
10:30:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
10:30:05AM SORRY.
10:30:06AM I WAS AT MY DESK.
10:30:09AM PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
10:30:10AM KATRINA HOUSE, CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE
10:30:14AM PRESIDENT.
10:30:15AM I JUST WANTED TO OFFER MY CONDOLENCES TO THE ENTIRE CRA
10:30:20AM BOARD, TO THE FAMILY.
10:30:26AM JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS GOING TO
10:30:32AM BE MISSED.
10:30:34AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON REACHED OUT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:30:36AM BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE IN REFERENCE TO HER HBCU DAY.
10:30:41AM SHE WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, KATRINA, YOU WANT ME TO SHOW UP FOR
10:30:44AM YOU ALL, SO I NEED YOU ALL TO SHOW UP FOR ME.

10:30:48AM THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.
10:30:49AM WE GOT THE WORD OUT.
10:30:51AM ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE HER DREAM A REALITY.
10:30:54AM THE FIRST TIME SHE DID IT, SHE LIKED IT.
10:30:57AM BUT SHE SAID IT WASN'T BIG ENOUGH.
10:31:00AM SO SHE SAID THE NEXT TIME SHE SAID I WANT IT TO BE BIG.
10:31:03AM I WANT IT TO BE GRAND.
10:31:05AM SHE SAID AND EVERYBODY BETTER SHOW UP.
10:31:07AM WELL, IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY WE
10:31:10AM ALSO HAD AN EAST TAMPA CAC MEETING.
10:31:13AM SOME OF US WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND.
10:31:17AM BUT SISTER DARLENE WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WERE.
10:31:20AM WE WERE LIKE WE'RE STILL DOING OUR BUSINESS.
10:31:25AM THE NEXT DAY SHE SENT ME AN E-MAIL AND SHE SAID THAT SHE
10:31:29AM APPRECIATED THE THOUGHTS THAT WE WERE WITH HER ON THAT
10:31:31AM PARTICULAR DAY.
10:31:33AM AND SHE APPRECIATE FOR US GETTING THE WORD OUT.
10:31:36AM I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT SHE DID HAVE A BIG HEART.
10:31:39AM WHEN WE ASKED HER TO COME OUT TO BELMONT HEIGHTS LITTLE
10:31:43AM LEAGUE FOR OUR PLAYERS ALLIANCE DAY WHERE WE OFFER A CLINIC
10:31:48AM RETIRED MLB PLAYERS TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, SHE
10:31:51AM SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BUT I GUARANTEE YOU
10:31:55AM CHARLIE IS GOING TO BE THERE TO REPRESENT ME.
10:31:57AM AND SHE SAID AND WHEN HE GET THERE, YOU ALL BETTER TREAT HIM
10:32:01AM RIGHT.

10:32:01AM SO WHEN HE CAME, HE CAME AND HE HAD STORIES FROM THE
10:32:06AM BEGINNING TO THE END OF TIME.
10:32:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: 45 MORE SECONDS.
10:32:12AM >> WE APPRECIATED THAT BECAUSE THE NEXT DAY SHE WAS LIKE,
10:32:15AM HOW DID HE DO?
10:32:16AM I GAVE -- SHE SAID, I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO DO FINE.
10:32:20AM THAT'S CHARLIE.
10:32:21AM I JUST WANTED TO TELL EVERYBODY THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY,
10:32:24AM WE WERE BLESSED TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE COUNCILMAN HENDERSON.
10:32:30AM SHE WAS TRYING TO MAKE CHANGE.
10:32:31AM WE APPRECIATOR AS BEING THE CHAIR OF THE TAMPA CRA OF WHICH
10:32:35AM THAT IS MY NEW DEPARTMENT.
10:32:37AM WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING IT IS THAT SHE HAS TRIED TO DO FOR
10:32:40AM THIS COMMUNITY.
10:32:41AM I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU GUYS DO
10:32:45AM EVERYTHING IT IS THAT YOU GUYS CAN IN ORDER TO MAKE SOME OF
10:32:48AM THOSE DREAMS STILL COME ALIVE.
10:32:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
10:32:51AM NOW I'M GOING BACK TO MY DESK.
10:32:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:32:54AM GOD BLESS YOU.
10:32:55AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:32:55AM GUYS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:32:58AM AGAIN, FOR THE FAMILY AND THE LOVED ONES AND SO MANY OF THE
10:33:02AM LATE COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON, THERE IS A CONTINUOUS

10:33:06AM OUTPOURING OF LOVE.
10:33:07AM THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF REMEMBERING THE LEGACY AND THE
10:33:09AM LIFE AND THE VALUES AND THE HEART OF A WONDERFUL WOMAN.
10:33:13AM I LOVE SONG LYRICS.
10:33:15AM GREAT SONG BY BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, WHEN THEY SAID SIT DOWN,
10:33:21AM THEY STOOD UP.
10:33:23AM THAT'S COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:33:24AM SHE NEVER SAT DOWN.
10:33:26AM SHE ALWAYS STOOD UP.
10:33:28AM JUST AN AMAZING PERSON.
10:33:29AM WHAT WE'LL DO, SINCE THERE ARE FOLKS HERE JUST FOR THIS AND
10:33:32AM WE DON'T WANT TO -- WE WANT TO HAVE A GOOD TRANSITION, WE'LL
10:33:35AM TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE ADJOURNMENT AND THEN RETURN WITH MOTIONS,
10:33:39AM PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SO FORTH.
10:33:40AM WE'LL TURN IN FIVE MINUTES.
10:33:43AM THANK YOU FOR SHARING FROM THE HEART AND GOD BLESS YOU.
10:33:45AM [FIVE-MINUTE RECESS]
10:45:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEGINNING I GUESS IN 30 SECONDS.
10:45:58AM OKAY.
10:46:17AM ROLL CALL.
10:46:19AM >> MIRANDA?
10:46:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:46:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:46:23AM >> HURTAK?
10:46:23AM CLENDENIN?

10:46:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PRESENT.
10:46:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:46:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
10:46:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
10:46:31AM WE'VE RETURNED.
10:46:32AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY
10:46:34AM MEETING?
10:46:35AM >> SO MOVED.
10:46:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:46:39AM SECONDED I THINK BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:46:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:46:42AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:46:43AM OKAY.
10:46:45AM NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:46:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SO SORRY.
10:46:50AM I NEEDED TO MAKE A MOTION TO PULL SOME STUFF OUT.
10:46:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
10:46:55AM SHOULD WE RESCIND THAT, THE MINUTES?
10:46:57AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO RESCIND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO -- YES
10:47:02AM IS YOURS FOR MAY 8?
10:47:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, NO.
10:47:05AM I'M SORRY.
10:47:06AM I WANTED TO PULL SOMETHING TO SPEAK ABOUT TODAY.
10:47:08AM MINUTES ARE FINE.
10:47:14AM I APOLOGIZE.

10:47:15AM I WAS RUNNING, TRYING TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE.
10:47:18AM DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF CRA FUNDS REQUESTED, I WANT TO MOVE
10:47:21AM AGENDA ITEMS 10 AND 13 TO STAFF REPORTS.
10:47:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:47:29AM WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:31AM ANY DISCUSSION?
10:47:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE DID PASS A
10:47:39AM MOTION TO MOVE THESE UP, BUT IT JUST HADN'T STARTED YET.
10:47:42AM WE DID MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT AND THEY WILL BE DOING
10:47:46AM THAT FROM NOW ON.
10:47:47AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PULLED THEM TODAY.
10:47:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
10:47:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:50AM UNLESS THERE'S DISCUSSION ON IT, ALL IN FAVOR?
10:47:53AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:47:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE MOVE THE REST OF THEM.
10:47:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST, CORRECT?
10:48:01AM LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:48:07AM PARDON ME, SINCE I DON'T USUALLY CHAIR CRA, DO WE HAVE A
10:48:10AM STATEMENT READ ON PUBLIC COMMENT READ BEFORE IN CRA?
10:48:13AM YES.
10:48:15AM ATTORNEY SHEPHARD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR.
10:48:17AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: YES, SIR.
10:48:18AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
10:48:23AM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CRA MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON

10:48:26AM THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CRA TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM.
10:48:30AM HOWEVER, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS
10:48:34AM PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS SUCH TIME FRAME IS MODIFIED
10:48:38AM BY A VOTE OF THE CRA BOARD.
10:48:40AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
10:48:43AM THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
10:48:46AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
10:48:50AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
10:48:53AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
10:48:57AM PERSONAL ATTACKS.
10:48:58AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
10:49:02AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CRA FROM
10:49:05AM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
10:49:07AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CRA'S RULES MAY BE RULED
10:49:11AM OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
10:49:14AM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT DAY'S
10:49:18AM CRA MEETING.
10:49:20AM FINALLY, CRA BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THEY SHOULD
10:49:24AM REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:49:27AM THE CITY COUNCIL RULES REVISED JUNE 6, 2024, ARE NOW IN
10:49:31AM EFFECT FOR THE CRA BOARD UNLESS OTHERWISE EXEMPTED OR
10:49:34AM OVERRIDDEN BY THE CRA BOARD BYLAWS.
10:49:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:49:40AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:49:41AM I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE WHO ARE STANDING FOR PUBLIC

10:49:44AM COMMENT.
10:49:44AM WHO HERE IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:49:46AM IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HANDS?
10:49:47AM GOOD.
10:49:52AM AS MANY IS FINE.
10:49:53AM JUST SO I KNOW.
10:49:54AM PASTOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST, YOU MAY, SIR.
10:50:05AM >> I THANK GOD FOR EACH ONE OF YOU ALL.
10:50:08AM THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME COME UP HERE FIRST, I DON'T
10:50:12AM THINK YOU ALL GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME.
10:50:15AM I'M GOING TO WATCH THAT CLOCK RIGHT NOW.
10:50:19AM YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M SO HAPPY TO BE ALIVE.
10:50:21AM 87 YEARS OLD AND GOD HAS BEEN EXTREMELY GOOD TO ME.
10:50:25AM I COME DOWN HERE WITH MY WALKER, TELLING ME MY TIME IS OUT,
10:50:31AM SEEMS LIKE YOU WANT TO RUSH MY TIME OUT.
10:50:34AM I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT IS SUPPORTING ME.
10:50:38AM I THANK GOD FOR YOU.
10:50:45AM MY PRAYERS ALWAYS GO UP FOR YOU.
10:50:46AM A LOT OF THE MEMBERS HERE TOO.
10:50:51AM THEY HAVE DONE THINGS FOR ME THAT I WOULDN'T THINK THEY
10:50:54AM WOULD DO, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M HAPPY AND I'M CONTENTED.
10:50:58AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:50:59AM I COME UP HERE, I COULD GIVE YOU ALL A BOOKFUL, BUT YOU
10:51:05AM DON'T GIVE ME THAT KIND OF TIME.
10:51:07AM THANK GOD FOR THE LITTLE TIME YOU ALL GIVE ME.

10:51:10AM I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE JACKSON HEIGHTS FOR YEARS.
10:51:16AM YOU ALL STILL HAVEN'T TORN THAT DOWN YET.
10:51:20AM THE MAYOR WAS HERE.
10:51:21AM IS SHE STILL HERE?
10:51:22AM SHOULD HAVE TOLD HER DIRECTLY.
10:51:26AM THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO.
10:51:28AM IT'S IN BAD SHAPE.
10:51:32AM GO BY THAT EVERY DAY AND STILL SEE IT UP.
10:51:37AM WE NEED TO TEAR IT DOWN.
10:51:38AM NOT ONLY THAT, A LOT OF THE POND YOU MADE OUT THERE, CALLED
10:51:44AM A RETENTION POND, WE WANT YOU ALL TO FILL THEM UP SO I COULD
10:51:47AM BUILD MY CHURCH BACK UP OVER THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:51:50AM I'M GRATEFUL TO GOD FOR HIM TO LET ME LIVE TO TELL YOU ALL.
10:51:58AM YOU DON'T SEEM TO GET NOTHING DONE.
10:52:02AM I'LL HAVE TO KEEP SPEAKING.
10:52:04AM I KNOW ONE OF THESE DAYS MY TIME IS GOING TO BE UP, BUT I
10:52:08AM AIN'T WORRYING ABOUT MY TIME BEING UP.
10:52:10AM MY TIME BEING HERE.
10:52:12AM I'LL KEEP SPEAKING ABOUT THE ISSUE.
10:52:16AM I THANK GOD THAT I'M STILL HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ISSUE.
10:52:21AM I THANK GOD FOR YOU ALL GIVING ME THE THREE SECONDS WHERE I
10:52:26AM CAN DEFEND MYSELF AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS ALL
10:52:28AM RIGHT.
10:52:29AM NOW, WHEN WE COME IN -- I SAY, YEAH, I GOT SOMETHING.
10:52:39AM I GOT THIS HANDICAP WHEEL THAT HELP ME WALK BACK AND FORTH.

10:52:44AM I GOT MY KEYS IN MY POCKET.
10:52:50AM THEY AIN'T GOING TO FIND NOTHING ON ME.
10:52:52AM I CAN'T DO NOTHING.
10:52:53AM I CAN'T RUN NO MORE.
10:52:54AM I CAN'T HARDLY WALK NO MORE.
10:52:57AM BUT YET THEY WANT ME TO COME THROUGH THE SCREEN AND
10:53:01AM INVESTIGATE, HEY -- YEAH, I GOT MY MONEY IN MY POCKET.
10:53:08AM OKAY.
10:53:12AM I'M THROUGH.
10:53:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: PASTOR, GOD BLESS YOU.
10:53:15AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:53:16AM THANK YOU.
10:53:19AM NEXT.
10:53:25AM >> MS. GWEN, GOOD TO EVERYBODY.
10:53:27AM WE GOT TO THANK HIM SOMETIME NOW.
10:53:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:53:31AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:53:36AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:53:38AM WANT TO SAY UHURU.
10:53:41AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
10:53:43AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE AND ALL PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE
10:53:46AM THINKING ABOUT OUR FREEDOM.
10:53:47AM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, YOU CAN COME DOWN TO THIS CITY
10:53:50AM COUNCIL AND WATCH ALL KIND OF DISPARITIES AND EXPERIENCE IT.
10:53:53AM WHEN I'M SPEAKING, THERE'S SOMETHING, BLACK PEOPLE CAN'T

10:53:58AM ARTICULATE ON THAT OTHER LEVEL.
10:54:00AM YOU ALL ACCUSTOMED TO TALKING TO BLACK PEOPLE ABOUT DUMB
10:54:04AM STUFF, COLONIAL STUFF.
10:54:06AM COLONIAL BASKETBALL, COLONIAL SPORTS, WHO CAN RUN COLONIAL
10:54:12AM TRACK, COLONIAL EDUCATION, COLONIAL FOOLISHNESS, COLONIAL
10:54:14AM GOSSIP.
10:54:17AM BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHEN THE AFRICAN PERSON TRY TO
10:54:19AM ELEVATE THE CONVERSATION YOU SHUT THEM DOWN.
10:54:22AM YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU SHOULD THEM DOWN.
10:54:23AM THOUSANDS OF AFRICAN PEOPLE KILLED AT NIGHTCLUBS AND BLACK
10:54:27AM FAMILIES NEVER KNEW TO SUE THE NIGHTCLUB OWNER. YOU ALL
10:54:32AM KILLED GWEN HENDERSON BY PUTTING HER OUT THERE IN THAT WATER
10:54:35AM AND YOU THINK I'M NOT GOING TO ANNOUNCE THAT HER FAMILY NEED
10:54:38AM TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE MAYOR.
10:54:40AM PUT HER UP AGAINST A NASTY RACE AGAINST ORLANDO GUDES,
10:54:45AM DISPARAGING ALL AFRICAN MEN AND THE RESULT IS DEAD AT 60.
10:54:50AM ALL THE DISPARITIES THAT GOES ON IN AFRICAN PEOPLE'S LIVES.
10:54:55AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:54:56AM YOU DON'T WANT US TO BRING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT.
10:55:00AM DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT REPARATIONS, CHILD SUPPORT, THAT IT
10:55:03AM IS EUGENICS.
10:55:05AM YOU ALL CLOWNS DOWN HERE.
10:55:07AM FOR TWO HOURS TALKING ABOUT GWEN HENDERSON.
10:55:10AM DON'T NOBODY IN THE HOOD KNOW GWEN HENDERSON.
10:55:13AM ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOBODY IN THE HOOD WHO KNOW GWEN

10:55:16AM HENDERSON IS.
10:55:17AM NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON.
10:55:21AM YOU ALL COULD TALK ABOUT SORORITIES AND FRATERNITIES AND HOW
10:55:25AM YOU KEEP THOSE AFRICANS, THOSE PUPPET AFRICANS BUT GO IN THE
10:55:28AM HOOD RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW OUR CITY
10:55:32AM REPRESENTATIVE IS DEAD.
10:55:33AM THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT.
10:55:36AM BUT YOU ALL HAVING A TRIBUTE TO PUPPETISM.
10:55:39AM NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
10:55:40AM A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE DEAD IN PALESTINE AND THE CLOWNS
10:55:44AM HERE AT CITY COUNCIL CAN'T SAY A SINGLE WORD ABOUT IT.
10:55:48AM BUT YOU ALL TALK ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
10:55:50AM YOU TALK ABOUT INHUMANITY TO OTHER KINDS OF THINGS.
10:55:53AM YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING SOME LIGHTS ON THE RIVERWALK, BUT YOU
10:55:58AM ALL CAN'T TALK ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE DEAD IN
10:56:01AM PALESTINE.
10:56:05AM GENOCIDE.
10:56:06AM INSTANT GENOCIDE.
10:56:09AM CAN'T TALK ABOUT SLOW NEGRO GENOCIDE WITH THE CHILD SUPPORT
10:56:12AM SITUATION.
10:56:12AM IT IS HORRENDOUS, DRIVING AFRICAN MEN F-IN' CRAZY.
10:56:17AM DRIVING AFRICAN MEN CRAZY.
10:56:20AM AND AFRICAN WOMEN SNITCHING THINKING THEY ARE GETTING
10:56:23AM SOMETHING OUT OF THE DEAL.
10:56:25AM MAKING ALL AFRICAN FAMILIES DYSFUNCTIONAL.

10:56:27AM TIGHTEN UP AND STOP PLAYING BLACK PEOPLE WICK WE'RE STUPID.
10:56:32AM I AM THE FIRST TO SAY IT.
10:56:33AM YEAH, I'M BLACK AND I'M STUPID.
10:56:35AM THE MAYOR SAY, OH, SHE HAD FAMILY MEMBERS THAT CAN'T READ,
10:56:41AM 825 YEARS OF OPPRESSION.
10:56:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:56:45AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:56:49AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:56:50AM NEXT, PLEASE.
10:56:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:56:57AM SURGRET DOSS.
10:56:58AM I'LL TRY TO REMAIN CALIBRATED IN HONOR OF MY FELLOW DRAGON
10:57:02AM AND ALSO GRADUATE OF FLORIDA A & M UNIVERSITY WHICH MY
10:57:06AM DAUGHTER RECEIVED HER DOCTORATE IN PHARMACY FROM.
10:57:09AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, I WALKED IN HERE, THE FIRST PERSON I
10:57:12AM SEE IS THE SAME GUY WHO FALSELY ACCUSED ME OF A CRIME.
10:57:17AM THE VERY SAME GUY AND THE MAYOR.
10:57:19AM THE PRIOR MAYOR WHO SEEMS TO BE RUNNING FOR MAYOR AGAIN,
10:57:25AM ODDLY ENOUGH -- IT'S BLURRY I GUESS, TO FALSELY ACCUSE ME OF
10:57:29AM THE CRIME.
10:57:30AM I'M SHOWING YOU WHAT IT TAKES SURE THE ATTORNEYS OVER HERE
10:57:35AM UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO SUBSTITUTE AS COUNSEL ON A CASE.
10:57:38AM WHEN THE CITY OF TAMPA POLICE FORCE SENT THEIR GOON TO
10:57:46AM REMOVE ME FROM MY HOUSE, NONE OF THE RULES WERE FOLLOWED.

10:57:50AM LOOK AT THE SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL, SUPPOSEDLY DONE BY THE
10:57:52AM BANK, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NAME MICHAEL WIRE, ODDLY ENOUGH
10:57:58AM THAT NAME IS MISSING FROM THIS LIST OF HOUSES.
10:58:03AM I DON'T THINK IT'S BY ACCIDENT.
10:58:05AM AND I DON'T THINK IT'S BY ACCIDENT EITHER THAT WHEN YOU LOOK
10:58:09AM AT THIS, THE COMPLAINT WAS FILED BY MORRIS SNYDER, THAT
10:58:15AM FIRM'S HEAD ATTORNEY WENT TO PRISON EMBEZZLING MONEY FROM
10:58:20AM HIS CLIENTS.
10:58:21AM IN BETWEEN HERE AND THERE, NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY COUNSEL,
10:58:25AM YOU'RE MISSING THE SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL.
10:58:27AM KIND OF INTERESTING.
10:58:29AM I DON'T MAKE THE RULES.
10:58:30AM THERE ARE A FEW ATTORNEYS IN HERE.
10:58:32AM BUT IF THERE'S NOT AN ORDER AND A HEARING, THE COUNSEL
10:58:36AM COULDN'T SUBSTITUTE.
10:58:38AM IF YOU LOOK HIGHER ON THIS SHEET, YOU'LL SEE THE NAME OF
10:58:42AM THIS GUY GREG HOLDER.
10:58:44AM I WANT EVERYBODY TO IMAGINE IF A BLACK MAYOR'S BLACK
10:58:49AM SECURITY GUARD OR HEAD OF SECURITY WAS CONTACTED BY A BLACK
10:58:54AM JUDGE TO REMOVE A WHITE DISABLED AMERICAN VETERAN FROM HIS
10:58:59AM HOME THAT THE DAUGHTER THAT IS NOW A DOCTOR WAS IN,
10:59:04AM ATTENDING BERKELEY, BY THE WAY, BERKELEY HIGH SCHOOL, IF YOU
10:59:07AM ALL WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THAT KIND OF INJUSTICE.
10:59:10AM WE ALL KNOW YOU WOULDN'T.
10:59:12AM I USED A TERM LAST WEEK THAT PEOPLE SAY, MAN, I CAN'T

10:59:15AM BELIEVE YOU SAID THE WORD CRACK OUT THERE.
10:59:17AM I SAY I DON'T KNOW WHY NOT.
10:59:19AM BASICALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND, SARASOTA, WHITE MEN
10:59:22AM FOLLOWING YOUNG BLACK MEN.
10:59:23AM YOUNG BLACK BOYS THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:59:25AM WE NEED TO BE AS COMFORTABLE SAYING CRACK AS EVERYBODY
10:59:31AM SAYING -- A JUDGE CALLED ME -- DON'T ARGUE WITH THIS CRACKER
10:59:40AM IN THE COURTROOM.
10:59:40AM MY CONDOLENCES TO MY CLASSMATE SONYA.
10:59:45AM MY CONDOLENCES TO THE HENDERSON FAMILY AND DRAGON NATION.
10:59:48AM SHOUT-OUT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:59:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, NEXT, PLEASE.
10:59:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:00:00AM MY NAME IS EDDIE SUAREZ.
11:00:01AM I HAVE LIVED HERE IN TAMPA MOST OF MY LIFE.
11:00:04AM I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER 10 ON YOUR
11:00:08AM AGENDA, THE URBAN REWORX PROJECT ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE.
11:00:12AM THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS MORE THAN JUST BRICKS AND MORTARS.
11:00:16AM THIS IS A STEP TOWARD CORRECTING LONG-STANDING INEQUITIES IN
11:00:21AM HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:00:22AM THIS IS A CHANCE FOR US TO GIVE BACK TO THE VERY PEOPLE WHO
11:00:25AM MAKE THIS CITY RUN, OUR TEACHERS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR
11:00:31AM HEALTH CARE WORKERS.
11:00:32AM THE VERY PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE AT CITY HALL, BY MAKING SURE
11:00:35AM THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT

11:00:38AM THEY SERVE.
11:00:40AM THIS PROJECT IS ROOTED IN SMART PLANNING.
11:00:42AM IT'S NOT JUST AFFORDABLE, IT'S ACCESSIBLE.
11:00:45AM BY LOCATING IT ON NEBRASKA AVENUE, WHICH IS A CRITICAL
11:00:48AM TRANSIT CORRIDOR CONNECTING DOWNTOWN TO MANY OF OUR
11:00:52AM NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS IS THE KIND OF THOUGHTFUL CONNECTED
11:00:55AM DEVELOPMENT THAT WE NEED.
11:00:56AM IT'S FISCALLY SOUND.
11:00:59AM FOR EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED BY YOU, THE RETURN IS 12-FOLD.
11:01:03AM IT MEANS THAT YOUR SUPPORT WILL RIPPLE FORWARD TO THE NEXT
11:01:08AM PROJECT AND THE ONE AFTER THAT.
11:01:09AM IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY NOT JUST TO BUILD HOUSING, BUT TO BUILD
11:01:13AM MOMENTUM.
11:01:15AM AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A LAWYER HERE IN OUR
11:01:18AM COMMUNITY.
11:01:18AM I SPENT MY ENTIRE CAREER IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
11:01:22AM LITTLE BIT AS A PROSECUTOR, MOSTLY AS A DEFENSE LAWYER.
11:01:25AM I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE FIRSTHAND THE PRESSURES THAT OUR
11:01:29AM FAMILIES FACE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING.
11:01:32AM THE VERY PEOPLE THAT ARE THE SUPPORT STAFF, THAT RUN OUR
11:01:35AM COURTHOUSE HAVE TROUBLE MAKING RENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND
11:01:41AM RENT KEEPS GOING UP AND UP.
11:01:42AM PROJECTS LIKE REWORX CAN EASE THAT BURDEN AND MAKE A REAL
11:01:47AM DIFFERENCE.
11:01:48AM I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP OF

11:01:50AM THIS PROJECT AND TO TALK ABOUT THAD BEREDAY.
11:01:56AM KNOWN HIM MORE THAN A DECADE.
11:01:58AM FIRST MET HIM WHEN HE CAME AS A CLIENT AND NOW DELIGHTED TO
11:02:02AM COUNT HIM AS A FRIEND.
11:02:03AM WHEN I FIRST MET THAD, HE WAS A LONG WAY FROM THE HIGHEST
11:02:07AM LEVELS OF COUNTERPART LEADERSHIP HE ONCE HAD.
11:02:10AM LOST HIS CAREER, LOST HIS REPUTATION, SUFFERED BATTLES WITH
11:02:15AM CANCER NOT ONCE BUT TWICE.
11:02:17AM THE MAN I MET EMERGED FROM THOSE EXPERIENCES WITH A PROFOUND
11:02:21AM SENSE OF PURPOSE, A PURPOSE TO SERVE.
11:02:24AM HIS STORY IS ONE OF REDEMPTION, RESILIENCE, PUBLIC GOOD.
11:02:30AM SERVICE ISN'T JUST THEORETICAL.
11:02:33AM HE'S BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO ME.
11:02:35AM HANDS-ON, PERSONAL, AND PERSISTENT, WHETHER HELPING GET --
11:02:41AM HELPING TO SHELTERING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR TO WALK
11:02:44AM WITH SOMEONE ON THE ROAD TO RECOVERY, I TRUST HIM FULLY.
11:02:47AM I TRUST WITH YOUR SUPPORT THIS PROJECT CAN BE A REFLECTION
11:02:51AM OF OUR COLLECTIVE VALUES AND THE VALUES OF OUR CITY.
11:02:55AM I DON'T CLAIM TO BE AN EXPERT IN HOUSING POLICY, BUT I KNOW
11:02:58AM THIS WHEN WE INVEST IN NEIGHBORHOODS, WE INVEST IN DIGNITY,
11:03:02AM INVEST IN ACCESSIBILITY, AFFORDABILITY.
11:03:05AM WE CAN BE PROUD OF.
11:03:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:03:07AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:03:08AM NEXT, PLEASE.

11:03:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:03:13AM MY NAME IS JOE PALANO.
11:03:15AM I'M FROM BUFFALO, NEW YORK.
11:03:17AM I LIVED IN TAMPA SINCE 2004.
11:03:21AM I OWN A SMALL BUSINESS.
11:03:23AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE URBAN REWORX PROJECT.
11:03:28AM I LOVE LIVING DOWN HERE.
11:03:30AM LOVE BEING A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN TAMPA.
11:03:31AM I LOVE OUR COMMUNITY.
11:03:32AM AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, OUR EMPLOYEES COULD USE MORE
11:03:37AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:03:38AM I THINK URBAN REWORX WILL DO A GREAT JOB IN DELIVERING AND
11:03:45AM URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT SO WE CAN GET IT GOING AND
11:03:47AM GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWN HERE.
11:03:49AM THANK YOU.
11:03:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:03:54AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:03:55AM NEXT, MR. HEARNS.
11:04:00AM >> THANK YOU.
11:04:01AM GOOD MORNING AGAIN TO CRA BOARD.
11:04:03AM MY NAME IS FRED HEARNS.
11:04:05AM 3422 MACHADO STREET IN TAMPA, HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
11:04:10AM THEY SAY THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW THEIR HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO
11:04:21AM REPEAT THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST.
11:04:22AM HISTORY IS VERY INSTRUCTIVE.

11:04:25AM THAT'S ONE REASON I KIND OF MAKE IT MY LIFE NOW.
11:04:29AM BUT IF I CAN TAKE YOU BACK JUST FOR A MOMENT TO 2007, THAT
11:04:36AM IS THE YEAR I RETIRED FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:04:40AM ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE WERE DOING QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS ON
11:04:42AM WAS THE REDEVELOPMENT OF PERRY HARVEY PARK.
11:04:46AM AND THAT PARK WAS TO INCLUDE AN AMPHITHEATER.
11:04:51AM THE FOOTPRINT IS STILL THERE.
11:04:53AM YOU CAN SEE THE CONCRETE AND A HALF-MOON, WHERE SUPPOSED TO
11:04:58AM GO ON HARRISON STREET.
11:05:00AM WE HAD THE ISSUE WITH THE SKATE BOWL.
11:05:03AM YOU ALL WOULD REMEMBER THAT.
11:05:05AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SKATE BOWL WAS MOVED OUT OF THE
11:05:08AM MIDDLE OF THE PARK TO THE NORTHERN SECTION OF THE PARK.
11:05:11AM COST QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO DO THAT.
11:05:13AM I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF THAT MONEY WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE GONE
11:05:15AM INTO THE AMPHITHEATER THAT WAS USED TO MOVE THE SKATE BOWL,
11:05:19AM BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE AMPHITHEATER WAS NEVER BUILT.
11:05:25AM THAT WAS 2007.
11:05:27AM WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CITY BUDGETS SINCE THEN.
11:05:30AM IT'S NEVER BEEN FUNDED.
11:05:31AM OUR DEARLY DEPARTED COUNCILWOMAN WAS PURSUING THIS PROJECT.
11:05:37AM ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES WE SPOKE, WE SPENT THREE HOURS
11:05:44AM TOGETHER, AND THIS IS BEFORE SHE WAS SWORN INTO OFFICE.
11:05:47AM SHE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TIME THAT DAY, RIDING AROUND THE
11:05:49AM CENTRAL AVENUE AREA.

11:05:51AM SHE LIVED ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
11:05:52AM THE BOOKSTORE WAS RIGHT OFF CENTRAL AVENUE.
11:05:54AM SHE KNEW THAT HISTORY, AS DO MANY OF US WHO GREW UP IN
11:06:00AM TAMPA.
11:06:00AM I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO
11:06:04AM BUILD AN AMPHITHEATER AT PERRY HARVEY PARK.
11:06:07AM IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE $10 MILLION, BUT GWEN HENDERSON
11:06:12AM UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD GENERATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE
11:06:15AM WHEN THEY PUT ON FESTIVALS AND HAVE ALL KINDS OF EVENTS
11:06:19AM WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO RENT A STAGE.
11:06:22AM THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
11:06:24AM WHERE VENDORS CAN COME THERE.
11:06:26AM AND IF THEY DO WELL ENOUGH AT THE EVENTS WE HAVE, MAYBE THEY
11:06:30AM CAN OPEN A STOREFRONT.
11:06:33AM SHE WAS IN A -- SHE WAS INTERESTED IN SEEING THE
11:06:36AM AMPHITHEATER BUILT.
11:06:38AM I HOPE YOU CONTINUE THE WORK THAT SHE BEGAN.
11:06:41AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:06:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:06:42AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:06:43AM WE HAVE THREE FOLKS WHO ARE STANDING RIGHT NOW FOR PUBLIC
11:06:45AM COMMENT.
11:06:46AM I KNOW THERE'S MORE COMING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:06:48AM WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, COUNCIL,
11:06:51AM DON'T WE USUALLY TAKE VIRTUAL FIRST OR LAST?

11:06:54AM DOESN'T MATTER.
11:06:55AM WHAT I'LL DO, AS A COMPROMISE, AFTER MS. TATE, SHE'S
11:07:01AM STANDING UP NOW, WE'LL DO VIRTUAL.
11:07:02AM EVERYBODY WILL GET TO SPEAK.
11:07:04AM ONLY TWO FOLKS VIRTUAL.
11:07:05AM I DON'T KNOW THEIR TIME LIMITATIONS.
11:07:07AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:07:08AM THAT'S MR. CREIGHTON AND MR. RANDOLPH ARE WAITING.
11:07:13AM YOU WILL GO IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES, MORE OR LESS.
11:07:16AM >> HI.
11:07:17AM ALBERT COOK.
11:07:18AM MANY OF YOU KNOW ME.
11:07:20AM GWEN CAME BY MY HOUSE THE OTHER DAY.
11:07:24AM I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
11:07:27AM I LIVE IN VM YBOR.
11:07:30AM THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY 150 FEET FROM MY HOME.
11:07:35AM IT IS CURRENTLY A CAR WASH.
11:07:37AM I LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY.
11:07:38AM THE OWNER OF REWORX WHO IS ACTUALLY THE PROJECT OWNER
11:07:52AM REFURBISHED TWO HOMES NEXT TO ME.
11:07:54AM DID A WONDERFUL JOB ON THE HOMES AND BROUGHT THEM BACK TO
11:07:57AM THEIR ORIGINAL GLORY AND HAS IMPROVED THE VALUE OF OUR
11:08:00AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:08:02AM HE BOUGHT THAT CAR WASH.
11:08:04AM HE IMPROVED THE CAR WASH.

11:08:06AM THE CAR WASH IS DOING WELL, BUT NOW HE WANTS TO MOVE ON TO
11:08:09AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
11:08:12AM THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:08:15AM IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW, THAT'S ON 21st AND NEBRASKA, RIGHT
11:08:19AM WHERE THAT CHECKERS IS AND THAT HUGE BLOND BRICK CHURCH IS
11:08:23AM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
11:08:25AM BY PUTTING THAT STRUCTURE THERE, HE'S GOING TO IMPROVE THAT
11:08:30AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELP US CLEAR NEBRASKA AVENUE AND MAKE IT
11:08:35AM SAFE AGAIN AND BRING IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL GLORY AS WELL.
11:08:40AM I'M ALL FOR IT.
11:08:44AM WHATEVER YOU GUYS CAN DO TO HELP.
11:08:46AM I'M WITH IT, AND ALSO I WANT YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW
11:08:49AM THAT I AM SITTING ON MY FRONT PORCH AND I CAN SEE THE CAR
11:08:53AM WASH.
11:08:54AM I WOULD RATHER SEE A BUILDING THAT HAS A COFFEE SHOP, A
11:08:58AM BUILDING THAT HAS LIFE WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING, RATHER THAN
11:09:03AM WASHING CARS AND PEOPLE HANGING OUT AND POSSIBLY SELLING
11:09:07AM DRUGS OR DRINKING OR PROSTITUTES IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
11:09:11AM AND THAT'S THE END OF MY COMMENT.
11:09:15AM I SAY LET'S GO AHEAD AND HELP REWORX DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO
11:09:18AM TO CHANGE THAT CAR WASH FROM A CAR WASH INTO WORKFORCE
11:09:23AM HOUSING AND HELP CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:09:25AM THANKS.
11:09:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:09:27AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.

11:09:28AM MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
11:09:32AM >> HI.
11:09:32AM MARTINEZ.
11:09:34AM I LIVE IN YBOR HEIGHTS.
11:09:35AM I AM A CURRENT EAST TAMPA CRA CAC MEMBER.
11:09:39AM THE PURPOSE OF A CRA IS TO ELIMINATE BLIGHT AND SLUM.
11:09:42AM OUR OWN TAMPA CRA MISSION STATEMENT IS TO PLAN, COLLABORATE,
11:09:47AM AND INNOVATE TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES.
11:09:50AM I SUPPORT AGENDA ITEM 10 BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO STRENGTHEN
11:09:53AM OUR COMMUNITY.
11:09:54AM THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO OFFER SO MANY BENEFITS TO THE
11:09:59AM COMMUNITY.
11:10:00AM I IMPLORE YOU TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT HOLISTICALLY, NOT JUST
11:10:03AM AT THE MONEY, BECAUSE I KNOW TRADITIONALLY IN THE CITY, WE
11:10:07AM LIKE TO HAVE BIG-BOX DEVELOPERS COME IN AND PROVIDE HUNDREDS
11:10:10AM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS SO WE CAN GIVE THEM LOWER
11:10:14AM SUBSIDY.
11:10:14AM THIS PROJECT IS MORE THAN JUST THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THEY HAVE
11:10:17AM AND THE MONEY THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
11:10:19AM THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO SPARK
11:10:23AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
11:10:24AM IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE QUALITY OF LIFE, AND IT'S GOING TO
11:10:27AM ELIMINATE BLIGHT AND SLUM.
11:10:29AM SOMETIMES WE HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN OUR AREA.
11:10:32AM THEY GIVE 400 UNITS.

11:10:34AM WE PAY A LOW AMOUNT.
11:10:35AM THEY BUILD AND THEN THEY GO AWAY.
11:10:37AM THEY GO AWAY.
11:10:38AM THEY DON'T MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY, THAT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR
11:10:43AM THE RESIDENTS THERE.
11:10:44AM WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO DO BOTH.
11:10:46AM WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO COME HERE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND
11:10:49AM CRA COMPLAIN THAT THEY ARE BEING OVERDEVELOPED OR DEVELOPERS
11:10:52AM ARE IGNORING THEM AND WE HAVE TO FORCE THEM TO DO A
11:10:55AM COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
11:10:57AM HERE WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO IS DOING IT ON HIS OWN, WHO IS
11:10:59AM NOT GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS PROJECT, WHO IS READY TO
11:11:02AM BREAK GROUND.
11:11:03AM WHO IS READY TO BE BRAVE AND INVEST IN NEBRASKA AVENUE WHEN
11:11:06AM NO ONE ELSE IS.
11:11:07AM THIS IS GOING TO BE A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT THAT IS GOING
11:11:10AM TO ATTRACT OTHER DEVELOPERS TO COME IN.
11:11:13AM WE HAVE ANOTHER GENTLEMAN WHO BOUGHT THE WALGREENS PROPERTY
11:11:17AM AND TRYING HIS HARDEST TO MAKE THAT INTO A LIVE LOCAL ACT.
11:11:22AM I CONNECT HIM WITH THAD AND WITH MENACHEM RAPPAPORT BECAUSE
11:11:27AM HE WANTS TO BUILD ON 26.
11:11:29AM THERE IS A LOT BY BORRELL PARK.
11:11:31AM EVERYBODY IS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOVE.
11:11:33AM IF WE CAN GET THE PROJECT APPROVED AT THE $500 MILLION, THE
11:11:36AM MATRIX SAYS WE CAN GO UP TO 250K.

11:11:39AM IT IS NOT WRONG TO ASK FOR THE MAX.
11:11:41AM WE NEED ONE DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND THE REST WILL COME IN.
11:11:43AM I ASK YOU TO PLEASE LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE THIS
11:11:47AM IS GOING TO BE IMPACTING.
11:11:49AM THIS IS GOING TO BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT
11:11:51AM LIVE OFF THE NEBRASKA AVENUE CORRIDOR.
11:11:53AM THANK YOU.
11:11:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:11:55AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:11:56AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:11:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:12:01AM LEE MANSORI.
11:12:04AM OWN A PROPERTY ACROSS FROM THE REWORX PROJECT.
11:12:09AM I WANT TO SHOW FULL SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
11:12:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: MS. TATE, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:12:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA.
11:12:15AM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS.
11:12:20AM I AM FRAN TATE, PRESIDENT OF JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
11:12:23AM ASSOCIATION AND MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA COMMUNITY
11:12:26AM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
11:12:27AM I CAME BEFORE YOU WEEKS AGO AND I EXPRESSED THE FACT THAT WE
11:12:33AM ARE VOLUNTEERS.
11:12:35AM WE HAVE VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE IN REDEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ARE
11:12:39AM ON THE BOARD BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO
11:12:42AM SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

11:12:44AM I'M ASKING THAT WE BE GIVEN MORE TIME, WHEN DEVELOPERS COME
11:12:49AM WITH OVER A MILLION DOLLAR ASK, WE NEED MORE TIME TO READ
11:12:53AM THE INFORMATION, DIGEST THE INFORMATION AND UNDERSTAND IT
11:12:56AM BECAUSE WE CANNOT TALK AMONGST OURSELVES JUST LIKE YOU ALL.
11:13:00AM THE LAST PRESENTER CAME WITH A $9.7 MILLION ASK.
11:13:05AM WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO READ THE 131 PAGE BOOKLET THAT HE
11:13:09AM PROVIDED.
11:13:10AM SOME WERE OUT OF TOWN FOR THE FIRST MEETING, AND SOME JUST
11:13:13AM CAME BACK FOR THE SECOND MEETING.
11:13:16AM WE ONLY RECEIVED THE INFORMATION A FEW DAYS BEFORE.
11:13:19AM WE NEED AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS.
11:13:22AM IT WAS LIKE THAT WHEN I SERVED AS THE CHAIR.
11:13:25AM WE HAD MORE TIME TO ANALYZE THESE PRESENTATIONS.
11:13:29AM I'M ASKING FOR MORE TIME.
11:13:31AM SEVEN DAYS, PLEASE, ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT AT LEAST.
11:13:34AM AND ON THE URBAN REWORX ASK, THEY PRESENTED AND WE MADE A
11:13:44AM DECISION ON WHAT WE WERE GOING TO FUND THAT PROJECT AT.
11:13:49AM PLEASE LET IT STAY AT THAT AMOUNT.
11:13:51AM THANK YOU.
11:13:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:13:52AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:13:53AM NEXT WE'LL GO TO VIRTUAL.
11:13:57AM THERE ARE TWO FOLKS THAT I THINK ARE ON VIRTUAL.
11:13:59AM MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE READY TO GO, SIR.
11:14:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.

11:14:06AM TODAY I COME TO SPEAK BRIEFLY.
11:14:09AM TODAY, I COME WITH A HEAVY HEART AND I SPEAK WEST TAMPA
11:14:15AM COMMUNITY LEADERS AND RESIDENTS IN SAYING WE LOST A TRUE
11:14:20AM FIGHTER FOR THE PEOPLE.
11:14:21AM FROM THE POOR TO THE RICH, FROM THE BABY TO THE SENIOR, FROM
11:14:26AM THE BLACK TO THE WHITE AND ALL BETWEEN.
11:14:29AM SHE FOUGHT TIRELESSLY FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
11:14:38AM WHAT I REMEMBER MOST IS THAT -- SHE HAD THE ABILITY TO TEAR
11:14:46AM YOU DOWN WITH THAT SMILE AND LEFT YOU WONDERING WHAT
11:14:50AM HAPPENED.
11:14:50AM I REMEMBER DURING A RECENT CRA MEETING FORGOTTEN TO SPEAK.
11:15:03AM SHE OPENED THE MEETING UP JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
11:15:06AM COMMUNITY VOICE WAS HEARD.
11:15:07AM I SHARED WITH HER SO MANY CONCERNS FROM THE WEST TAMPA, AND
11:15:12AM SHE ALWAYS SAY CALL ME.
11:15:15AM SHE WAS IN BETWEEN MEETINGS DURING THE LAST MEETING,
11:15:20AM EMERGENCY MEETING ON RECOVERY FROM THE STORM.
11:15:22AM SHE SHOWED UP TO THE VIRTUAL MEETING IN BETWEEN MEETINGS TO
11:15:27AM LET THE PEOPLE KNOW SHE REALLY CARED.
11:15:31AM MOST APPROPRIATE IS SO HARD TO SAY GOOD-BYE.
11:15:41AM IN CLOSING, JOB WELL DONE.
11:15:45AM THANK YOU.
11:15:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
11:15:48AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:15:48AM MR. CREIGHTON, GO AHEAD, SIR, IF YOU ARE ON.

11:16:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:16:01AM BOBBY CREIGHTON.
11:16:03AM FIRST, I WANT TO START BY JUST EXPRESSING MY SADNESS AND
11:16:09AM SHOCK AND DISBELIEF AT THE LOSS OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:16:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CREIGHTON, YOU ARE BREAKING UP THERE AND
11:16:21AM WE CAN'T HEAR YOU WELL.
11:16:28AM >> OH.
11:16:28AM I'LL TRY TO SPEAK MORE SLOWLY.
11:16:31AM HOPEFULLY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND.
11:16:32AM ANYWAY, JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES TO COUNCILWOMAN
11:16:37AM HENDERSON'S FAMILY.
11:16:39AM I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 10 TODAY.
11:16:41AM URBAN REWORX PROJECT ON NEBRASKA AVENUE.
11:16:45AM MANY PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW THIS, BUT THERE WAS A BOARDING
11:16:49AM HOUSE AT THAT LOCATION PRIOR TO THE CAR WASH.
11:16:52AM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE WERE STEELWORKERS, WAITRESSES,
11:16:57AM YOUNG FAMILIES WITH NEWBORNS.
11:16:59AM IT WAS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO BRING
11:17:03AM BACK.
11:17:04AM WE ALWAYS HEAR HOW GREAT TAMPA WAS IN THE PAST, THE FABRIC
11:17:08AM WE HAD, THE URBAN FABRIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:17:09AM THIS PROJECT IS DESIGNED TO BRING THAT BACK TO THIS
11:17:14AM NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IT DESPERATELY NEEDS.
11:17:16AM HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU HEARD PEOPLE FROM VM YBOR, RESIDENTS
11:17:19AM COME DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THE BOARDING HOUSES WHERE SEXUAL

11:17:23AM OFFENDERS LIVE, ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE HOMELESSNESS
11:17:26AM AROUND THAT AREA, WITH THE PROSTITUTION AND THE DRUG USE,
11:17:29AM WITH THE VACANT BUILDINGS AND UNDERUTILIZED SPACES.
11:17:32AM THIS PROJECT IS THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE
11:17:36AM RIGHT TIME.
11:17:37AM AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS.
11:17:40AM I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
11:17:43AM I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT IT AT THE FULL FUNDING REQUEST.
11:17:47AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:17:50AM THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS.
11:17:54AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:17:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:17:56AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:17:57AM MS. SHAKE.
11:18:00AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM, IF YOU'D LIKE.
11:18:01AM GOOD TO SEE YOU.
11:18:02AM ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
11:18:03AM >> ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
11:18:04AM GOOD MORNING.
11:18:05AM THIS MORNING, I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ITEM 10.
11:18:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY.
11:18:12AM YOUR NAME.
11:18:13AM I JUST SAID IT.
11:18:14AM >> I'M SCHALETTE DAVIS.
11:18:17AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ITEM 10, THE URBAN REWORX

11:18:24AM PROJECT.
11:18:25AM I'VE KNOWN THAD FOR NEARLY TEN YEARS.
11:18:28AM WE MET THROUGH CHURCH, A CHURCH I WORK FOR, CHURCH I ATTEND,
11:18:33AM THE PORTICO.
11:18:34AM I'VE LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
11:18:39AM I'VE WAITED A LONG TIME TO SEE AN INVESTMENT LIKE THIS IN VM
11:18:47AM YBOR AND EAST TAMPA AND ESPECIALLY ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE.
11:18:50AM THIS PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN
11:18:55AM HOPING FOR HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:18:59AM I USED TO LIVE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER IN TAMPA HEIGHTS IN A
11:19:04AM HOME.
11:19:05AM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, TAMPA HEIGHTS IS A TRANSITIONING
11:19:08AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:19:11AM MY LANDLORD TRANSITIONED ME AND MY ROOMMATE RIGHT OUT OF
11:19:14AM THAT PLACE IN ORDER TO MAKE ROOM FOR TENANTS THAT WERE GOING
11:19:18AM TO PAY HIGHER RENTS.
11:19:21AM TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE NEW MONEY COMING FROM OUT OF OUR
11:19:26AM AREA AND DOWNTOWN IN THE CORE OF OUR CITY.
11:19:29AM THIS PROJECT SHOWS THAT VM YBOR AND EAST TAMPA MATTER AND
11:19:33AM THAT NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS ARE WORTH INVESTING IN.
11:19:37AM PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALL THEIR LIVES IN OUR CITY AND YET STILL
11:19:41AM STRUGGLE TO SECURE SAFE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE WORTH
11:19:47AM INVESTING IN.
11:19:47AM PEOPLE LIKE TEQUISHA, ONE OF THE GUESTS FOR THE NONPROFIT I
11:19:53AM WORK FOR, TWO JOBS, TWO BOYS, AND SHE CONTINUOUSLY STRUGGLES

11:20:00AM TO PAY RISING RENTAL COSTS.
11:20:04AM PEOPLE LIKE MINDY, ANOTHER SINGLE MOM, WHO SOME OF YOU MIGHT
11:20:08AM KNOW THE STORY OF.
11:20:09AM SHE WAS ONCE HOMELESS AND HAS CHANGED HER LIFE AND IS NOW
11:20:14AM WORKING AND THRIVING.
11:20:16AM SHE'S ABOUT TO FINISH HER DEGREE AT USF.
11:20:19AM AND PEOPLE WHO ARE SINGLE WOMEN LIKE ME.
11:20:25AM I'M PUSHING 50 YEARS OLD AND I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE TO
11:20:29AM WORK IN MY INDUSTRY, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T PAY ME MUCH.
11:20:34AM I LOVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY IN DOWNTOWN, AN AREA THAT I LOVE.
11:20:39AM FOR THE LAST 60 DAYS, I'VE EXPERIENCED THE DEFUNDING OF
11:20:43AM PROGRAMS THAT KEEP THE CITY SAFE AND KEEP THE RESIDENTS
11:20:47AM SAFE.
11:20:50AM I JUST BEG YOU TO KEEP TAMPANIANS IN HAD TAMPA.
11:20:54AM THE PRICE POINT FOR THIS PROJECT IS RIGHT.
11:20:56AM AND IF WE DON'T INVEST AND IMPROVE -- APPROVE AFFORDABLE
11:21:01AM HOUSING PROJECTS LIKE REWORX, WE ARE IN DANGER OF LOSING
11:21:04AM TALENTED AND PASSIONATE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE THE HEART AND
11:21:08AM SPIRIT OF THE HONORABLE GWEN HENDERSON, MAY HER MEMORY BE A
11:21:11AM BLESSING TO US AND OUR ENTIRE CITY.
11:21:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:21:15AM BY THE WAY, TODAY IS WOMEN VETERANS DAY.
11:21:17AM HAPPY WOMEN VETERANS DAY.
11:21:18AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:21:23AM >> HI.

11:21:23AM I'M RAY COLKER.
11:21:25AM I'M DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS PROJECT AT 1024 EAST 19th
11:21:29AM AVENUE.
11:21:30AM I'VE LIVED AND INVESTED IN YBOR FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
11:21:36AM WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO TAMPA, I WAS DOING SOME CONSULTING
11:21:39AM WORK FOR BALTIMORE DOWNTOWN, AND THEY TOLD ME ONE OF THEIR
11:21:43AM PEOPLE WAS JUST RECENTLY HIRED BY THE CITY TO MAKE
11:21:46AM IMPROVEMENTS IN YBOR CITY.
11:21:47AM IN MY SMALL WAY, I WANTED TO JUMP ON BOARD.
11:21:54AM REMODELED AND RESTORED A SHOTGUN ON 4th AVENUE.
11:21:58AM I USED TO HANG OUT AT THE HOT SHOP FOR YEARS DRINKING ALOE
11:22:04AM VERA.
11:22:04AM IT WAS THE DIVERSITY THERE THAT I LOVED TO SEE.
11:22:08AM PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE COMING THERE, DRINKING ALOE
11:22:12AM VERA, LOSING WEIGHT, IMPROVING THEIR MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
11:22:17AM MY GASTRO DIDN'T BELIEVE IT CURED MY GASTRITIS BUT I BELIEVE
11:22:22AM AFTER A YEAR OR SO IT DID.
11:22:24AM I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT IN YBOR.
11:22:29AM IT'S JUST REMARKABLE.
11:22:31AM I HAVE A FRIEND COMING IN TODAY FROM PHILLY TO HELP ME DO
11:22:35AM SOME WORK ON SOME THINGS.
11:22:37AM HE HASN'T BEEN HERE ABOUT TEN YEARS.
11:22:39AM I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SHOWING HIM AROUND, LOOK AT ALL THE
11:22:42AM DIFFERENT CHANGES.
11:22:43AM I'VE BEEN A FRIEND.

11:22:45AM I KNOW THE FOUNDERS OF URBAN REWORX.
11:22:48AM I WAS THERE WHEN THEY FOUNDED THE COMPANY.
11:22:50AM THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
11:22:53AM THEY ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY, AND THEY
11:22:58AM HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS.
11:23:00AM I'M CERTAIN THEY WILL CONTINUE THEIR LEADERSHIP AND INVEST
11:23:04AM IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:23:05AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY RIGHT IN THIS AREA, WE
11:23:08AM WAITED A LONG TIME TO SEE SOME REAL INVESTMENT, ESPECIALLY
11:23:14AM ALONG NEBRASKA.
11:23:17AM THIS PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN WANTING.
11:23:20AM I THINK THIS PROJECT SHOWS THAT VM YBOR AND EAST TAMPA ARE
11:23:27AM WORTH THE INVESTMENT AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO FUND THIS
11:23:33AM PROJECT.
11:23:34AM IT WILL BRING IN NEW RESIDENTS.
11:23:37AM IT WILL IMPROVE THE SIDEWALKS, THE WALKING, THE PEOPLE HERE.
11:23:42AM ALL THOSE THINGS ARE THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN WANTING ALL OF
11:23:45AM THESE YEARS.
11:23:45AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:23:48AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:23:49AM MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
11:23:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:23:53AM KELLA McCASKILL.
11:23:55AM NATIVE HERE IN TAMPA.

11:23:55AM I HOPE THAT TODAY YOUR MINDSET TOWARD THE PEOPLE THAT YOU
11:24:04AM REPRESENT IS DIFFERENT.
11:24:05AM YOU'VE ALL HEARD MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN
11:24:06AM FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND YET YOU STILL LISTEN SOLELY TO THE
11:24:10AM STAFF.
11:24:10AM YOU'RE ELECTED.
11:24:11AM THEY WERE HIRED.
11:24:12AM I HOPE THAT AFTER ALL THAT'S HAPPENED TODAY, WHAT YOU
11:24:16AM ACTUALLY DO UP THERE EVERY DAY, I HOPE IT REALLY DOES
11:24:19AM MATTER.
11:24:19AM WHEN YOU LEAVE, WHAT YOU DID IN THAT COMMUNITY MATTERED.
11:24:22AM RIGHT NOW YOU'RE HEADED TOWARD AUTHORIZING, OPENING THE DOOR
11:24:27AM WIDE OPEN FOR GENTRIFICATION.
11:24:29AM I'M ALSO A DEVELOPER ALONG THE NEBRASKA CORRIDOR.
11:24:32AM IN FACT, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE MOST PART WITHOUT THE
11:24:35AM PROJECTS I REPRESENT.
11:24:36AM THE DIFFERENCE, I'LL BACK UP.
11:24:38AM AFTER YOU WATCHED THE COMPLAINTS, YOU HEARD THE THINGS
11:24:41AM THAT'S HAPPENED.
11:24:43AM YOU'VE SEEN THE DISPARITIES BETWEEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
11:24:46AM IN ONE CASE, $5 MILLION.
11:24:47AM I LIKED THAT PROJECT WAS ON A CONSENT AGENDA.
11:24:50AM YOU SEE OTHER PEOPLE COME FORWARD.
11:24:55AM WE'RE AT A CRITICAL PLACE WHERE WE RECENTLY LOST THE CRA FOR
11:24:59AM BEING THE POSTER CHILD ARE NOT DOING WHAT CRAs WERE

11:25:02AM INTENDED TO DO.
11:25:03AM AFTER SEEING ALL THAT, BEING IN THE CITY AND YET YOU HAVE
11:25:06AM NOT SEEN ANY AFRICAN AMERICAN APPLICATIONS COME BEFORE YOU,
11:25:12AM YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY LEGACY INITIATIVE, PREDEVELOPMENT
11:25:15AM DOLLARS ATTACHED TO IT BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATORS THAT WERE
11:25:17AM VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THIS PROCESS, WHEN THEY PUT THE
11:25:20AM INFORMATION OUT THAT THAT'S HOW IT WAS INITIATED.
11:25:23AM THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY AND YET I SEE IN THE FRA WHERE
11:25:28AM THEY ARE AWARDED FOR, AWARDED FOR THE LEGACY CREDIT THAT
11:25:33AM WOULD LOWER THE BARRIER FOR A MULTIMILLIONAIRE.
11:25:36AM LOWER THE BARRIER FOR A MULTIMILLIONAIRE WHO DIDN'T EVEN
11:25:40AM NEED LEGACY CREDIT.
11:25:41AM THEY HAD ALREADY FUNDED THEIR OWN PROJECT.
11:25:43AM PAY ATTENTION.
11:25:44AM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE STAFF DOESN'T ALWAYS REPRESENT
11:25:47AM THE TRUTH.
11:25:48AM THEY MAY SAY WHAT'S FAVORABLE.
11:25:49AM WHAT YOU MAY WANT TO HEAR.
11:25:51AM WHAT YOU MAY LIKE TO HEAR, BUT THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS GIVING
11:25:53AM YOU TRUTH.
11:25:54AM GO TO THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU.
11:25:56AM GO TO THE CONSTITUENTS.
11:25:57AM THOSE THAT IS IN THAT COMMUNITY.
11:25:59AM A $9.7 MILLION ASK WAS SHOVED IN THOSE PEOPLE'S FACES.
11:26:04AM AND WE ARE ONLY ASKING THAT THEY HAVE A SECOND REVIEW AND

11:26:08AM YOU PAY ATTENTION.
11:26:09AM ASK THE RESIDENTS.
11:26:10AM ASK THE CAC MEMBERS AT THE MEETING.
11:26:12AM ASK THEM HOW THEY FELT.
11:26:14AM FIVE PEOPLE SAID I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A
11:26:18AM DECISION.
11:26:18AM AND JUST OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I'M ASKING YOU ALL
11:26:22AM TO DO A WORKSHOP REGARDING GRANTS, THESE APPLICATIONS, THIS
11:26:26AM PROCESS, THE CAC BOARD.
11:26:28AM I WANT YOU TO GO LOOK AT HOW PREDEVELOPMENT WAS INITIATED BY
11:26:31AM THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE.
11:26:32AM I ALSO WANT YOU TO READ THE CRP AND GO BACK TO WHERE IT
11:26:37AM ENCOURAGES PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND AS IT RELATES TO
11:26:41AM THE CRP COMING BACK.
11:26:43AM ONLY TWO MEETINGS.
11:26:44AM CRP RECOMMENDED PUBLIC INPUT AND THEY DID FIVE MEETINGS THE
11:26:47AM LAST TIME.
11:26:48AM MAKE THEM DO MORE.
11:26:49AM I SUPPORT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
11:26:51AM IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF A PROJECT THAT I'M DEVELOPING.
11:26:54AM SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT.
11:26:55AM I LIKED IT SO MUCH, I ASKED FOR THE ARCHITECT.
11:26:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:27:00AM WE APPRECIATE YOU, MA'AM.
11:27:02AM MS. HEWITT, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

11:27:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:27:06AM ALISON HEWITT.
11:27:07AM EAST TAMPA RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER.
11:27:10AM I WILL SAY I AGREE, AS I SAID IN MY LAST WEEK'S PUBLIC
11:27:14AM COMMENTS, WE ARE POISED TO HAVE THIS CRA BE THE TOOL FOR
11:27:18AM GENTRIFICATION IN EAST TAMPA.
11:27:20AM WE'RE ASKING TO YOU PAY ATTENTION.
11:27:21AM WE HAVE A POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL GRANT, BUT THE WAY IT IS
11:27:26AM SITUATED RIGHT NOW, UNLESS YOU HAVE MONEY, YOU CANNOT ACCESS
11:27:30AM IT.
11:27:31AM UNLESS YOU CAN PAY FOR IT 100%, THEN YOU CAN GET THE 50%
11:27:35AM MATCH.
11:27:35AM AND THE WAY THE SERVICE AGREEMENT IS AND ALSO BECAUSE
11:27:39AM FLORIDA STATUTE 163.3705 SAYS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW CITY POLICY
11:27:46AM YOU, WHEN YOU SIT AS CITY COUNCIL, YOU CAN AMEND THE
11:27:49AM PURCHASING POLICY TO BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE LOCAL
11:27:54AM BUSINESSES.
11:27:54AM IF YOU HAVE TO USE THE POLICY, THE POLICY THAT YOU HAVE TO
11:27:57AM HAVE COMPLETE REIMBURSEMENT, THE POLICY THAT YOU TRY TO
11:28:00AM REMOVE SLUM AND BLIGHT, WELL, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
11:28:03AM FOLKS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE CREDIT BECAUSE THEY ARE A CASH
11:28:06AM BUSINESS AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE LOAN TO DO
11:28:09AM REDEVELOPMENT, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT THAT.
11:28:11AM ALSO, ITEM NUMBER 11, TO CHANGE THE COMMERCIAL GRANT, THERE
11:28:15AM IS A SECTION IN THERE TO REMOVE THE INTERIOR REHABILITATION.

11:28:20AM SO TECHNICALLY WE ARE GOING TO BE SLAPPING LIPSTICK ON A
11:28:23AM PIG.
11:28:23AM BECAUSE IF YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THE OUTSIDE AND CANNOT DO THE
11:28:27AM INSIDE, IN THE STATE STATUTE CLEARLY SAYS 163.335, THE
11:28:32AM LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS AS WELL AS 163.370 PAREN 2, IT DOES NOT
11:28:39AM SAY NO INTERIOR.
11:28:40AM IT SAYS CONSTRUCT AND IMPROVE COMMERCIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL
11:28:44AM STRUCTURES.
11:28:45AM IF WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HIRING FROM EAST TAMPA,
11:28:47AM THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY COME INSIDE A REALLY PRETTY
11:28:51AM BUILDING AND BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND BE ABLE TO LOVE COMING
11:28:55AM TO THEIR JOB.
11:28:56AM WE HAVE GOT TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION.
11:28:58AM BECAUSE YOU ARE THE CRA.
11:28:59AM THE CITY STAFF RUNS THE INFORMATION THAT COMES BEFORE YOU.
11:29:05AM I NEED YOU TO TREAT YOUR CITY STAFF LIKE THEY ARE CRA STAFF,
11:29:10AM YOUR STAFF AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO BE CONSISTENT OF
11:29:12AM WHAT THEY ARE SAYING TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:29:15AM ACTUALLY PUTTING IN POLICIES THAT HELP THE CRA NOT MAINTAIN
11:29:18AM WHAT THE CITY POLICIES ARE BECAUSE THE CRA AND THE CITY,
11:29:21AM THAT'S DIFFERENT.
11:29:22AM THE CRA HAS A SPECIFIC MISSION TO ACHIEVE.
11:29:25AM AND WE CAN'T ACHIEVE IT UNLESS WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO
11:29:29AM HOW ARE WE HELPING THE BUSINESSES.
11:29:31AM HOW ARE WE HELPING THE HOMEOWNERS AND WHAT IS THE OVERALL

11:29:34AM PLAN?
11:29:34AM I ASK YOU FOR ITEM 11, ALSO A CONCERN IS THAT THEY CAME TO
11:29:38AM THE CAC AND THEY BROUGHT THEIR PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN.
11:29:42AM THEY PRESENTED ALL THEIR PROPOSED CHANGES, BUT THEY LEFT
11:29:45AM NOTHING IN OUR HANDS FOR THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD
11:29:48AM LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AND SHARE OUR OPINION AND BE ABLE TO DO
11:29:51AM SOME RESEARCH, PRESENTED TO YOU, WE DID NOT HAVE TO BE ABLE
11:29:56AM TO LOOK AT OTHER THAN ON THE SCREEN.
11:29:58AM I ASK YOU NOT TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY OUT OF THIS PROCESS.
11:30:01AM PLEASE GIVE US THE INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME SO WE CAN COME
11:30:04AM TO YOU WITH THOUGHTFUL RESPONSES AND NOT EMOTIONAL BECAUSE
11:30:08AM IT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.
11:30:09AM THANK YOU.
11:30:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:30:10AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
11:30:11AM MS. BULLOCK.
11:30:17AM OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PONCE De LEON.
11:30:18AM >> VALERIE BULLOCK.
11:30:20AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 10, THE REWORX HOUSING
11:30:23AM PROJECT.
11:30:24AM I WANT TO KNOW WHEN PEOPLE COME TO GET MONEY FROM EAST TAMPA
11:30:29AM CRA AND THEY SAY THEY ARE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHY DO
11:30:34AM THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO START OUT WITH THE HIGHEST 80% AMI?
11:30:37AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CRA FUNDING IS GOING TO FUND THEIR
11:30:44AM PROJECT, LET'S START OFF AT 30%.

11:30:47AM AND IT CAN BE DONE.
11:30:49AM BECAUSE WHEN YOU START OFF AT 80%, YOU ARE HELPING THE
11:30:54AM PEOPLE YOU WANT TO HELP BUT YOU ARE STILL CREATING BARRIERS
11:30:57AM TO KEEP CERTAIN PEOPLE OUT.
11:30:59AM I CAN LOOK AT WEST TAMPA, THE NEW PROJECTS THEY BUILT OVER
11:31:03AM THERE, AND CENTRAL PARK, AND IF YOU GO OVER THERE, IT WAS --
11:31:09AM I'LL SAY BETWEEN 80 TO 90 PERCENT SPANISH PEOPLE IN CENTRAL
11:31:15AM PARK, THE NEW PROJECTS OVER THERE.
11:31:18AM SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE PROJECTS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE
11:31:23AM NAME OF IT, BUT I DO KNOW BLACK POOR PEOPLE FROM EAST TAMPA,
11:31:28AM MY STREET, 24th AVENUE, THEY ARE BEING EXCLUDED.
11:31:32AM FOR ME, THE REWORX PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME THING.
11:31:39AM WHEN THEY SAY, OKAY, GIVE US $10 MILLION AND WE START AT
11:31:42AM 80%, EAST TAMPA CRA SHAKE THEIR HAND.
11:31:47AM THAT IS A GOOD DEAL BECAUSE YOU ARE PERPETUATING
11:31:50AM GENTRIFICATION EXCLUDING BLACK PEOPLE OUT OF IT.
11:31:54AM HOW MANY BLACK PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA ON 24th AVENUE, MY
11:31:58AM STREET, MAKES 80% OF THE AMI?
11:32:00AM THE AVERAGE AMI ON MY STREET IS 30 TO 35 THOUSAND.
11:32:07AM SO IF YOU ALL GIVE REWORX THIS MONEY AND THEY START WITH
11:32:11AM 80%, THE PEOPLE MAKING 70%, THEY ARE GOING TO GET IN QUICKER
11:32:15AM THAN THE PEOPLE MAKING 30%.
11:32:18AM WE'VE SEEN IT DONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
11:32:20AM ALL I'M ASKING, IF YOU GIVE EAST TAMPA CRA MONEY, LET'S MAKE
11:32:26AM SURE WE PUT SOME RULES AND STIPULATIONS ON IT.

11:32:29AM I DON'T CARE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS.
11:32:33AM IF YOU GET EAST TAMPA CRA, WE WANT APARTMENTS FOR THE PEOPLE
11:32:37AM WHO MAKE $36,000 A YEAR BECAUSE THIS IS GENTRIFICATION.
11:32:43AM WE SEE IT REPEATED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
11:32:46AM HOW IS EAST TAMPA THE OLDEST CRA IN TAMPA BUT MOST BLACK.
11:32:52AM WHEN WILL WE GET OUR RIVERWALK?
11:32:54AM WHEN WILL WE GET OUR CHANNELSIDE?
11:32:56AM WHEN WILL WE GET OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE.
11:32:58AM IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE, YOU'RE NOT.
11:33:01AM NOW WE ARE GOING TO PUSH ALL THE MONEY TO VM YBOR.
11:33:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:33:08AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:33:09AM ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU ALL COULD
11:33:11AM PLEASE STAND UP, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO AND GO UP AGAINST.
11:33:15AM COMMISSIONER MYERS, WE'LL HAVE YOU NEXT MA'AM.
11:33:18AM YES, MA'AM.
11:33:18AM IF YOU ALL COULD PLEASE STAND UP, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO
11:33:23AM AND LINE UP THERE SO WE KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS.
11:33:26AM MR. ROBINSON.
11:33:27AM >> JOE ROBINSON.
11:33:29AM ITEM 11, 13, 15, 15 SUPPORT CARLOS RAMIREZ REAPPOINTMENT TO
11:33:35AM THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
11:33:36AM 13, I'M SUPPORTING THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY ON CYPRESS
11:33:41AM STREET.
11:33:42AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 11.

11:33:45AM THANK YOU, MR. McCRAY.
11:33:46AM THANK YOU, DEE.
11:33:48AM THANK YOU, BRENDA.
11:33:49AM THANK YOU STAFF.
11:33:50AM THOSE PEOPLE TAKE A BEATING.
11:33:52AM THEY ARE IN A TRANSITION.
11:33:53AM I'VE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE, FOUR CRAs.
11:33:57AM FIRST CDBG GRANT.
11:33:59AM THIS THING IS A TRANSITION.
11:34:00AM THE TRANSITION BECAUSE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP, THE CHANGE
11:34:05AM THINGS.
11:34:05AM RENEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND ALL OF THAT.
11:34:08AM SO IT TAKES TIME TO DEVELOP A COMMERCIAL GRANT PROGRAM.
11:34:11AM I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE THERE ARE GUIDELINES ON
11:34:14AM HERE.
11:34:15AM I MADE A LOT OF NOTES ON THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THIS.
11:34:18AM THERE ARE GUIDELINES.
11:34:19AM WHAT IS A GUIDELINE?
11:34:20AM A GUIDELINE IS JUST A RECOMMENDED PRACTICE, GUIDE
11:34:27AM INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE DECISIONS, TO COMPLETE TASKS.
11:34:30AM IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE LAWS AND RULES, MR. ATTORNEY.
11:34:34AM GUIDELINES.
11:34:37AM IT MEANS IT CAN BE FLEXIBLE.
11:34:39AM AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY.
11:34:40AM THEY'VE GOT GREAT CHANGES.

11:34:43AM I HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY IN WEST TAMPA THAT IS MEETS
11:34:46AM HISTORICAL, OVER 50 YEARS OLD.
11:34:47AM -- 80 YEARS OLD.
11:34:53AM THAT IS ISSUE.
11:34:54AM HISTORIC DISTRICT, OLDER HOUSES.
11:34:56AM ISSUE WHEN YOU HAVE PROPERTY SITTING IN CI ZONING AND THEY
11:35:00AM TELL YOU IT IS NOT A COMMERCIAL USE.
11:35:02AM WE HAVE TO LET STAFF WORK THESE THINGS OUT.
11:35:05AM I ASKED HIM, I SAY, AIRBNB A COMMERCIAL USE?
11:35:10AM EVEN THOUGH IT IS WRITTEN -- IT IS COMMERCIAL.
11:35:15AM PAYING BUSINESS TAX ON RENTAL PROPERTY, BELIEVE IT IS IF IT
11:35:19AM IS A BUSINESS TAX.
11:35:22AM I WON'T DEBATE IT.
11:35:25AM I KNOW THEY ARE IN A STATE OF FLUX AND NEED TIME TO WORK
11:35:28AM THIS OUT.
11:35:29AM EXPECT MORE GUIDELINES.
11:35:30AM MEETING TUESDAY NIGHT, THANK YOU, MS. DEE, OVER THERE,
11:35:34AM WORKING THIS OUT.
11:35:36AM THIS IS -- I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS 40 YEARS.
11:35:40AM WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
11:35:41AM WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
11:35:43AM ALMOST THERE WITH THE CRAs.
11:35:46AM IN MY OPINION, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF OUT BEFORE WE NAIL
11:35:50AM IT.
11:35:51AM MS. HENDERSON GONE, HOPE IT DOESN'T PUSH US BACK THREE

11:35:55AM YEARS.
11:35:55AM I'M NOT HERE TO FIGHT.
11:35:57AM I'M HERE TO THANK YOU STAFF FOR PUTTING UP WITH YOU.
11:36:00AM THANK YOU, MS. BRENDA FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME.
11:36:02AM SOMETIMES I'M CONTROVERSIAL AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T WANT
11:36:05AM TO HEAR WHAT I SAY.
11:36:06AM WHEN I COME, I DO MY HOMEWORK.
11:36:09AM I ALWAYS DO MY HOMEWORK.
11:36:11AM LICENSED ENGINEER, I CAN'T STAND UP AND LIE.
11:36:14AM DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY MILLION DOLLAR LICENSE.
11:36:17AM I'M HERE TO HELP YOU.
11:36:18AM WE HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF TO DO, HOUSING AND ALL
11:36:20AM THAT.
11:36:21AM LET'S TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH POSITIVE IMPACT INSTEAD OF
11:36:26AM NEGATIVE RHETORIC THAT JUST DESTROY WORKING RELATIONSHIPS.
11:36:30AM WITH THAT, I'VE GOT TO GO.
11:36:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:36:32AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:36:33AM NEXT, I DON'T KNOW COMMISSIONER MYERS, MA'AM, WHICHEVER --
11:36:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:36:42AM COUNTY COMMISSION GWEN MYERS REPRESENTING DISTRICT 3 AND
11:36:46AM SERVING AS COUNTY AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHAIRMAN.
11:36:49AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF URBAN REWORX.
11:36:53AM AS YOU ALL KNOW, AS CHAIR OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE
11:36:56AM COUNTY, I MEET WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE STILL

11:36:59AM LOOKING TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:37:03AM I HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET AND SPEAK WITH URBAN REWORX AS
11:37:10AM THEY ARE PLANNING TO BUILD 20 UNITS.
11:37:13AM THESE UNITS WOULD BE LOCATED WHERE WE HAVE THE OLD CAR WASH
11:37:17AM RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE, I WOULD SAY THE NORTH SIDE OF
11:37:23AM 21st, GOING TOWARDS HILLSBOROUGH.
11:37:27AM WE KNOW THAT IS A VERY BLIGHTED AREA, AND WE NEED TO KNOW,
11:37:31AM AND WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO WANTS TO HELP CLEAN UP A
11:37:35AM BLIGHTED AREA AND BRING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE ALL KNOW
11:37:38AM THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A TOPIC THROUGHOUT OUR NATION.
11:37:44AM PEOPLE ALWAYS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY
11:37:46AM COMMISSIONERS, AND I'M SURE THEY ARE COMING HERE TO CITY
11:37:50AM COUNCIL SAYING WE NEED MORE HOUSING.
11:37:51AM WHEN WE CAN HAVE A DEVELOPER CAN BUILD HOUSING THAT WOULD BE
11:37:56AM LESS COSTLY FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:38:00AM UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, CAN HAVE A PLACE TO STAY, THAT WILL
11:38:04AM BE DECENT AND AFFORDABLE, WE SHOULD SUPPORT THAT.
11:38:08AM I'M ASKING YOU THIS BOARD THIS MORNING IF YOU WOULD SUPPORT
11:38:12AM -- I THINK THEY HAVE OUR REQUEST IN FOR $5 MILLION.
11:38:16AM THEIR PROJECT AS WE TURN FROM A BLIGHTED COMMUNITY INTO A
11:38:21AM MORE POSITIVE POLISHED COMMUNITY AS WE GET MORE DEVELOPERS
11:38:26AM TO LOOK AT THAT CORRIDOR BETWEEN FLORIBRASKA TO HILLSBOROUGH
11:38:32AM AVENUE, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT IT ONCE WAS, AND WE HAVE
11:38:37AM OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:38:41AM AND IT STARTS WITH THE URBAN REWORX WHO WANTS TO BUILD A

11:38:45AM DECENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO COULD AFFORD
11:38:49AM TO PAY THE RENT THERE.
11:38:51AM THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
11:38:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
11:38:55AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:38:55AM MS. LOCKETT.
11:38:56AM AND WHO ELSE IS HERE?
11:38:57AM MS. BURTON.
11:38:59AM ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER MS. BURTON?
11:39:02AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:39:04AM >> HI AGAIN.
11:39:05AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
11:39:08AM I AM HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 10.
11:39:12AM THE URBAN REWORX PROJECT.
11:39:16AM I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT.
11:39:18AM ANYTHING WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING I SUPPORT.
11:39:19AM THIS PROPERTY OFFERS UP TO 80% OF AMI.
11:39:25AM I AGREE WITH THAT.
11:39:27AM IT FITS -- IT'S 20 UNITS.
11:39:29AM AND YOU KNOW WE ARE STILL IN A HOUSING CRISIS.
11:39:33AM YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD A HUNDRED UNITS AT ONE TIME.
11:39:37AM WE NEED THE SMALLER UNITS, THE SMALLER CLUSTERS HERE AND
11:39:41AM THERE TO MAKE HOUSING, TO MEET THE GOAL OF REACHING THE
11:39:47AM NUMBER FOR HOUSING.
11:39:47AM I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

11:39:57AM IT FITS WHAT WE NEED.
11:39:59AM I THINK THAT -- OKAY.
11:40:08AM WITH THE NAME OF IT, IF IT IS IN EAST TAMPA, IT SHOULD
11:40:11AM REPRESENT EAST TAMPA.
11:40:12AM AND THE DEVELOPER HAS SAID THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
11:40:16AM WE CAN CREATE ANOTHER NAME FOR IT.
11:40:19AM IF IT'S IN EAST TAMPA, IT SHOULD REPRESENT A NAME IN EAST
11:40:22AM TAMPA.
11:40:22AM AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
11:40:24AM I HAD TO SAY THAT.
11:40:25AM BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS, AND SO FORTH, I WILL WANT TO SEE BLACK
11:40:35AM DEVELOPERS, THE PITTMAN GROUP, THOSE ORGANIZATIONS,
11:40:41AM COMPANIES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRODUCE IN EAST TAMPA ALSO.
11:40:47AM I HAVE TO SAY THAT.
11:40:47AM I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS WORK BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU MAY NOT BE
11:40:54AM ABLE TO BUILD UNITS, LARGER UNITS AT ONE TIME.
11:40:59AM SO WE HAVE TO BE CREATIVE AND BUILD TWO, BUILD ONE HERE, 20
11:41:05AM THERE, 30 THERE.
11:41:07AM TO MEET THE DEMAND BECAUSE WE ARE STILL IN A HOUSING CRISIS.
11:41:11AM IT HAS FROM MY KNOWLEDGE TWO ADA UNITS WHICH IS NEEDED.
11:41:17AM A STOREFRONT.
11:41:19AM A ROOFTOP.
11:41:21AM SO WE'RE BRINGING THAT DESIGN TO EAST TAMPA.
11:41:24AM AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS ABOUT EAST TAMPA.
11:41:26AM AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

11:41:32AM WE'RE SETTING UP A MEETING TO REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT EAST
11:41:36AM TAMPA SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
11:41:37AM AND IT SHOULD BE THE COMMUNITY.
11:41:40AM WHAT TYPE OF BUILDINGS DO WE WANT IN EAST TAMPA?
11:41:42AM BECAUSE EAST TAMPA HAS A MULTITUDE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT
11:41:47AM BUILDINGS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS.
11:41:48AM SO I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
11:41:52AM THAT CONVERSATION, TO BUILD INTO WHAT EAST TAMPA IS GOING TO
11:41:56AM CONTINUE TO LOOK LIKE.
11:41:57AM THANK YOU.
11:41:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:41:59AM MS. BURTON.
11:42:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:42:05AM CONNIE BURTON.
11:42:06AM ITEM NUMBER 6 AND NUMBER 10.
11:42:09AM ITEM NUMBER 6, I THINK RIGHT NOW FOR EAST TAMPA TO HAVE BEEN
11:42:14AM IN THE GAME OF BEING THE FIRST CRA, THAT WHEN THIS REPORT IS
11:42:18AM GIVEN, THE DECK SHOULD BE THIS HIGH WITH EVERYTHING PROMISED
11:42:24AM THE COMMUNITY AND VERY LITTLE HAS BEEN FULFILLED.
11:42:27AM IF THE LEGISLATORS DO PUT RULES AND REGULATIONS, HOW WOULD
11:42:31AM YOU MOVE FORWARD?
11:42:32AM HOW WOULD THE PEOPLE WAITING FOR OVER 20 PLUS YEARS TO SEE
11:42:35AM THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THEIR COMMUNITY SEE THAT THEY HAVE HAD
11:42:40AM THE EAR OF A LEGISLATIVE BEAU ED THAT REPRESENTS THIS CITY.
11:42:43AM SO THE THINGS MENTIONED IN THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION, ALL OF

11:42:46AM THAT SHOULD BE FUNDED.
11:42:48AM THOSE FIVE SUBJECT ITEMS.
11:42:49AM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NEVER WOULD I HAVE
11:42:51AM THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE THAT HAD PROFESSIONAL CAREERS,
11:42:56AM FIREFIGHTERS, TEACHERS, WOULD NEVER WANT TO BE LOCKED IN
11:42:58AM WITH POOR PEOPLE.
11:42:59AM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
11:43:00AM THEY HAVE TO BE LUMPED IN NOW, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOW HOUSES IN
11:43:05AM OUR COMMUNITY ARE SELLING FOR HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
11:43:07AM AS WE WATCH IT.
11:43:09AM ITEM NUMBER 10, $5 MILLION REQUEST FOR 20 UNITS.
11:43:15AM $5 MILLION FOR 20 UNITS.
11:43:16AM THINK ABOUT THAT.
11:43:19AM WHEN THEY GAVE THE PRESENTATION, THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO GO
11:43:22AM FOUR STORY HIGH.
11:43:24AM YOU KNOW WHO TOLD THEM NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, THE BARRIO
11:43:28AM COMMISSION.
11:43:30AM WHEN THEY TOOK THEIR PLANS TO THAT GROUP THAT GROUP SAID,
11:43:32AM NO, YOU CAN ONLY GO THREE HIGH.
11:43:34AM YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY DON'T GIVE NOT ONE DOLLAR TO THIS
11:43:39AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:43:40AM THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SOLELY BEING ASKED TO BE FINANCED ALL
11:43:44AM FOR POOR PEOPLE.
11:43:45AM NOW WHEN JC NEWMAN CAME ALONG, SOME SAY MADE A MISTAKE, $5
11:43:50AM MILLION.

11:43:51AM WE'RE JUST WATCHING IN DISGUST, DISGUST, BECAUSE SECTION 163
11:43:57AM TALK ABOUT WHAT CRA SUPPOSED TO DO, IT TALKS ABOUT THE
11:44:01AM ELIMINATION OF POVERTY.
11:44:04AM 75% OF BLACK FOLKS STILL LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
11:44:07AM WE AIN'T GOING NOWHERE.
11:44:09AM BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW SINCE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT RED
11:44:11AM LINING NO MORE, WE HAVE GENTRIFICATION.
11:44:14AM AND IT'S HAPPENING.
11:44:15AM AND THEN YOU ACT AS IF YOUR HANDS ARE TIED BEHIND YOUR BACK.
11:44:20AM ALL OF THE PROMISES THAT THE MAYOR MADE DURING HER FIRST --
11:44:25AM DURING HER CAMPAIGN TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT HOUSING MODELS.
11:44:28AM WE HAVEN'T SEEN ONE.
11:44:29AM YOU KNOW WHY?
11:44:30AM BECAUSE THERE IS A DISDAIN FOR POOR PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA.
11:44:34AM THERE IS A SLOW MOVING CAMEL THAT SAY HOW MANY HOUSES WE ARE
11:44:38AM GOING TO DO IN REAL REHAB IN REAL TIME, THAT NOW WE JUST
11:44:42AM WATCH THE RULES CHANGE, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE TO HAVE ON
11:44:45AM THE FRONT END.
11:44:46AM PEOPLE CAN'T BE GRANDFATHERED INTO NOTHING IN EAST TAMPA.
11:44:51AM WE ARE SPECTATORS.
11:44:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:44:55AM OKAY THAT IS THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
11:44:58AM I BELIEVE THERE IS NO ONE ELSE FOR THAT.
11:45:00AM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
11:45:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I CAN, I DON'T THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE

11:45:06AM AGENDA.
11:45:06AM WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME STUFF TO TAKE OFF AND MOVE.
11:45:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:45:11AM MA'AM, WERE YOU HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:45:14AM JUST ONE MORE.
11:45:15AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:45:17AM >> FIRST OF ALL, CONDOLENCES AND PEACE TO THE PEOPLE WHO
11:45:21AM APPRECIATED COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S LIFE.
11:45:24AM WHO APPRECIATE HER LIFE.
11:45:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR NAME, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
11:45:27AM >> VIRGINIA KNOX.
11:45:28AM JUST BECAUSE I'M HERE I THOUGHT I WOULD GO AHEAD AND
11:45:31AM MENTION, I'M NOT A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS ORGANIZATION OR
11:45:34AM THIS EVENT, BUT FEED TAMPA BAY IS PARTNERING WITH THE
11:45:41AM RESTAURANT WEEK THAT STARTS TODAY AND GOES THROUGH THE
11:45:44AM 20th.
11:45:45AM TODAY, THERE IS A KICKOFF IN ST. PETE ALSO, TICKETS THAT YOU
11:45:50AM CAN BUY AT THE DOOR.
11:45:51AM WITH THE RESTAURANTS, THEY HAVE A FIXED MENU, WHATEVER YOU
11:45:54AM ORDER, A PORTION GOES TO FOR FEEDING TAMPA PEOPLE THAT NEED
11:46:00AM HELP.
11:46:00AM THANK YOU.
11:46:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:46:02AM WE APPRECIATE FOR LETTING US KNOW THAT.
11:46:06AM YOU ARE VERY KIND.

11:46:07AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:46:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK MR. McCRAY, MAYBE HE WOULD GO
11:46:16AM THROUGH THE AGENDA SO WE CAN MOVE THOSE THINGS.
11:46:19AM WE WERE HALFWAY THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT, OH, GOSH, I HOPE NO
11:46:22AM ONE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE ITEMS.
11:46:25AM THEY WEREN'T.
11:46:26AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD MORNING.
11:46:27AM CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
11:46:31AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE ALREADY MOVED THE MOTION.
11:46:32AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE STAFF REPORTS FOR ITEM NUMBER 10 AND
11:46:37AM 13.
11:46:37AM WE WERE REQUESTING CONTINUANCE FOR NUMBER 5 AND WE HAD
11:46:40AM CONVERSATIONS, DURING THE BRIEFINGS WITH THE MOTION FOR
11:46:43AM NUMBER 5.
11:46:44AM ITEM 6 AND 8, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATION AND
11:46:49AM WE ARE JUST ASKING THOSE BE REMOVED.
11:46:51AM AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ALL.
11:46:52AM RELATED TO THE POSTING OF THOSE POSITIONS, SO THOSE
11:46:56AM DESCRIPTIONS WILL BE SENT OUT TO YOU FOR REVIEW AGAIN BEFORE
11:46:59AM FINAL POSTING.
11:47:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ABOUT 3?
11:47:09AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: AS WELL AS 3 FOR REMOVAL -- OR CONTINUANCE,
11:47:13AM I'M SORRY, FOR NUMBER 3 RELATED TO THE FIRE STATION.
11:47:16AM WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH REAL ESTATE AS WELL AS THE
11:47:20AM FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE UNION TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

11:47:24AM AND WOULD LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME AS IT RELATES TO LOOKING
11:47:30AM AT PROPERTY.
11:47:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 3 TO BE CONTINUED
11:47:34AM TO DECEMBER 11, 2025, AND ITEM NUMBER 5 TO BE CONTINUED TO
11:47:39AM AUGUST 21, 2025.
11:47:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, I THINK
11:47:44AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS SOME COMMENT POTENTIALLY ON THAT.
11:47:47AM GO AHEAD, IS SIR.
11:47:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE FIREFIGHTERS WOULD LIKE TO RESCHEDULE
11:47:54AM THIS FOR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE INSTEAD OF WAITING ANOTHER SIX
11:47:58AM MONTHS.
11:47:58AM IT'S ALREADY BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE WE MADE THE FIRST
11:48:01AM MOTION.
11:48:02AM BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE IT TO AUGUST 21st.
11:48:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL SUPPORT THAT.
11:48:09AM AUGUST 21st, YES.
11:48:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE THE MOTION OR MODIFY?
11:48:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MODIFY MINE TO BE AUGUST 21st FOR ITEM
11:48:18AM NUMBER 3.
11:48:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
11:48:20AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR THAT.
11:48:24AM AGAIN, LESSON OF STATION 24 TEACHES US ANYTHING, THIS IS NO
11:48:29AM REFLECTION ON CRA STAFF, ALWAYS WONDERFUL, BUT WE'VE GOT TO
11:48:33AM MOVE FORWARD WITH VIGOR.
11:48:34AM WE CAN MAKE REAL, LIKE, NON-CHANGEABLE PROGRESS ON DOWNTOWN

11:48:40AM FIRE STATION BY THE TIME WE LEAVE HERE.
11:48:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU CAN TALK TO EACH OF US OFF LINE AND I
11:48:48AM WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE
11:48:50AM FIREFIGHTERS.
11:48:51AM AT THE VERY LEAST, WE AS A CRA CAN BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY
11:48:56AM THAT IT COULD GO ON.
11:48:58AM IF THE CITY DECIDES TO SLOW WALK AND NOT BUILD A FIRE
11:49:02AM STATION, THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
11:49:03AM AT LEAST WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CARVE THAT OUT AND THE NEXT
11:49:06AM ADMINISTRATION CAN BUILD A FIRE STATION IF THIS ONE DOESN'T
11:49:09AM WANT TO.
11:49:10AM THANK YOU.
11:49:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:49:13AM SECONDED I THINK BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AS TO --
11:49:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER.
11:49:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER.
11:49:21AM EXCUSE ME.
11:49:21AM ITEMS 3 AND 5 WITH 3 TO BE MOVED TO THE AUGUST CRA MEETING.
11:49:27AM ANY DISCUSSION FURTHER?
11:49:27AM THERE BEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR?
11:49:29AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:49:39AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:49:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK.
11:49:43AM I MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 6 FROM THE AGENDA.
11:49:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: QUICK COMMENT, IF THE LEGISLATURE TRIES TO

11:49:53AM DO AWAY WITH, LIKE IMMEDIATELY DO AWAY WITH CRAs AGAIN
11:49:56AM NEXT YEAR, I OR ONE OF US WILL BRING THIS BACK UP.
11:49:59AM NOW IT'S MOOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SHUT US DOWN YET.
11:50:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION I BELIEVE BY BOARD MEMBER
11:50:06AM HURTAK.
11:50:07AM I THINK SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:50:09AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:50:10AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:50:11AM ITEM NUMBER 8.
11:50:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS SAYS CONTINUE 60 DAYS, SO YOU WANT IT
11:50:21AM TAKEN OFF?
11:50:22AM >> CORRECT.
11:50:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ASK TO REMOVE ITEMS 8 AND 9 ONLY BECAUSE WE
11:50:29AM HAVE -- THOSE ITEMS HAVE MOVED ON.
11:50:31AM WE ARE POSTING THOSE.
11:50:34AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: JUST 8, NOT 9.
11:50:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SORRY.
11:50:37AM JUST 8.
11:50:38AM TAKING 8 OFF.
11:50:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:50:40AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:50:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: QUICK COMMENT.
11:50:46AM I TALKED TO CEDRIC ABOUT THIS OFF-LINE.
11:50:48AM JUST AS IF THE STRAZ CENTER OR TAMPA THEATRE, SOME OTHER
11:50:55AM ORGANIZATION WANTED TO PROMOTE THEMSELVES, THE CITY SHOULD

11:51:01AM BE REPOSTING THE MESSAGE OF THE CRA, NOT POSTING IT
11:51:05AM ORIGINALLY.
11:51:07AM NOW WE'VE GOT HCP FILLING IN TEMPORARILY AND WE'LL GET OUR
11:51:12AM OWN PEOPLE.
11:51:13AM THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS CRA SHOULD BE DOING ITS OWN
11:51:15AM COMMUNICATION, AND WE SHOULD SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY IS
11:51:20AM STEPPING UP AND TRYING TO COMMUNICATE MORE POSITIVELY AND
11:51:23AM PROACTIVELY ABOUT THE CRA, BUT REALLY WHAT THEY SHOULD DO IS
11:51:26AM MAYBE GIVE YOU SUGGESTIONS AND THEN YOU GET EITHER HCP OR
11:51:31AM YOUR PEOPLE TO DO IT.
11:51:32AM IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY WANT TO REPOST IT.
11:51:35AM THEY NEED TO -- WE ARE TECHNICALLY SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS.
11:51:40AM THEY SHOULD BE REPOSTING OUR STUFF.
11:51:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:51:45AM >> AYE.
11:51:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OPPOSED?
11:51:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, YOU ALL CAN TELL ME IF
11:51:49AM YOU WANT IT OR NOT.
11:51:50AM I MOVE ITEMS 9, 12, 14, 15, WHICH ARE -- I'M SORRY.
11:52:01AM YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT 9.
11:52:03AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:52:03AM NEVER MIND.
11:52:04AM I MOVE ITEMS 12, WHICH IS THE REALIGNMENT OF MONEY FROM
11:52:09AM CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM ONE PART OF CHANNEL DISTRICT TO

11:52:12AM ANOTHER, AND THEN THE APPOINTMENTS FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
11:52:17AM AND AN APPOINTMENT FOR WEST TAMPA.
11:52:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:52:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY DISCUSSION?
11:52:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE ANY REASON NOT TO MOVE 13 AS
11:52:24AM WELL?
11:52:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE IT'S OVER THAT MUCH MONEY, AND WE
11:52:28AM HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT WE ARE GOING TO JUST -- SURE.
11:52:33AM I'LL TALK ABOUT IT NOW.
11:52:35AM 13, I'LL MOTION TO MOVE THAT AS WELL.
11:52:39AM I SUPPORT THE PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY.
11:52:43AM I JUST WANTED IT MOVED BECAUSE WE HAD SAID THAT ANYTHING
11:52:46AM OVER A MILLION DOLLARS NOW WILL BE MOVED TO STAFF REPORT,
11:52:49AM BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE DISAGREES WITH IT.
11:52:53AM WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:52:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND IT IS LATE IN THE DAY.
11:52:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I AGREE.
11:52:58AM I WILL ALSO MOTION TO MOVE 12, 13, 14, 15.
11:53:02AM DO YOU ACCEPT THOSE CHANGES?
11:53:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON 13, THAT IS THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH
11:53:07AM SIDE OF CYPRESS FROM ONE PART ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER PART
11:53:11AM OF THE WHOLE BLOCK MINUS THE DENTIST AT THE END.
11:53:14AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU THINK, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
11:53:17AM SUBDIVIDE BY LOT, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE GETTING A BARGAIN.
11:53:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND WE'RE SPENDING LESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO

11:53:24AM SOME WORK.
11:53:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:53:26AM UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD
11:53:28AM MEMBER HURTAK, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:53:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:53:31AM >> AYE.
11:53:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OPPOSED?
11:53:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST ONE MORE.
11:53:38AM SINCE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT IT AND I KNOW THEY
11:53:41AM WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT, I FORGOT TO MOVE ITEM 11 INTO STAFF
11:53:45AM REPORTS SO WE COULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GRANTS.
11:53:49AM I KNOW THEY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THEY NEED TO ASK.
11:53:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:53:53AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:53:55AM ANY DISCUSSION?
11:53:55AM THERE BEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR?
11:53:58AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:53:59AM WAY TO CLEAN UP THE AGENDA.
11:54:04AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:54:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
11:54:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:54:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:54:11AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:54:12AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:54:13AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:54:14AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CRA BOARD.
11:54:18AM NOW WE MOVE, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING FURTHER, THANK YOU,
11:54:22AM SIR, TO OUR DREW PARK CAC CHAIR.
11:54:26AM OUR FRIEND MARITZA ASTORQUIZA WILL BE HERE.
11:54:32AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.
11:54:35AM >> WELL, THANK YOU.
11:54:37AM I'M VERY GLAD TO BE HERE.
11:54:39AM VERY GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE I CAN ALSO OFFER OUR
11:54:43AM CONDOLENCES REGARDING COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:54:46AM ON MY BEHALF AND DREW PARK CRA.
11:54:50AM SO THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO STATE THAT AS
11:54:56AM WELL.
11:54:56AM I HAVE THREE ITEMS I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT.
11:54:58AM THE LAST ONE IS A SPECIAL MENTION THAT I'M GOING TO DO.
11:55:04AM KEEPING THIS IN MIND, THOUGH, IT'S VERY FITTING THAT I START
11:55:08AM WITH THE FIRST ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PARK.
11:55:10AM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE AND I WAS ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE
11:55:14AM PARK, I HAD SOMEONE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME WHO WAS GIVING ME
11:55:19AM THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WARM SMILES AND APPRECIATION IN SUPPORT
11:55:27AM FOR THIS PROJECT.
11:55:28AM I COULD TELL IT IN HER FACE.
11:55:30AM I WON'T FORGET THAT.
11:55:32AM WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK THAT
11:55:35AM WE'RE DOING IN DREW PARK AND IN PARTICULAR I BELIEVE THIS
11:55:38AM PROJECT.

11:55:38AM AND THIS PROJECT IS VERY FITTING THAT I START OFF WITH THIS
11:55:44AM BECAUSE OF COUNCILPERSON HENDERSON.
11:55:48AM NEIGHBORHOOD PARK FOR THE DREW PARK CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
11:55:56AM AND WE HAVE BEEN MOVING THAT RIGHT ALONG.
11:56:01AM IT'S A PROJECT THAT STARTED MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO.
11:56:08AM MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO.
11:56:10AM WE HAD A VISION ABOUT A PARK.
11:56:12AM LINEAR PARK WAS DEVELOPED, BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THIS
11:56:18AM PARK.
11:56:19AM AND THIS PARK'S INTENTION WAS TO REPLACE OR TO AT LEAST
11:56:27AM SOMEWHAT REPLACE THE PARK WE LOST WITH HUNTS PARK OR HUNTS
11:56:32AM CENTER.
11:56:32AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MAY CORRECT ME.
11:56:35AM HE REMEMBERS IT WELL, I'M SURE.
11:56:36AM SHE'S SHARED MEMORIES FROM THAT PARK.
11:56:38AM THAT WAS REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE AIRPORT EXPANSION.
11:56:44AM SO THIS PARK IS A VISION THAT IS GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
11:56:48AM THANKFULLY UNDER JESUS NU EZ LEADERSHIP WE BROUGHT IT BACK
11:56:57AM TO THE TABLE.
11:56:58AM WE MET WITH A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY AND WITH CEDRIC'S
11:57:03AM LEADERSHIP, WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT HOME.
11:57:04AM WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
11:57:05AM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT, WITH CITY STAFF
11:57:10AM DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
11:57:12AM WE ARE ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETE WITH THE

11:57:15AM CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
11:57:16AM WE'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE IN A MINUTE.
11:57:18AM THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY SUMMER OF 2025.
11:57:22AM GOOD BUSINESS PERSON, I WANT A DATE.
11:57:24AM WE'RE WAITING ON A DATE, NOT SUMMER 2025.
11:57:28AM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT PART OF SUMMER IS THIS GOING TO BE DONE
11:57:30AM BY.
11:57:30AM WE ARE PLEASED WITH THE CONCEPTS AND INFORMATION FROM ALL
11:57:34AM THE MEETINGS WE BROUGHT IN FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:57:37AM WE MET.
11:57:38AM THEY BROUGHT IT TOGETHER REALLY NICELY.
11:57:42AM THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
11:57:44AM AND I THINK WE HAVE A PICTURE OF IT.
11:57:46AM DON'T KNOW HOW THAT POPS UP.
11:57:48AM THERE YOU GO.
11:57:49AM THIS IS OUR DESIGN.
11:57:53AM I HOPE ALL OF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO THE GRAND OPENING OF
11:57:59AM IT OR THE GROUND BREAKING.
11:58:00AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOARDWALK.
11:58:04AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PLAY AREAS, A PAVILION, SO FAMILIES
11:58:07AM CAN HAVE PARTIES OR PICNICS OR BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS OR WHAT
11:58:13AM HAVE YOU.
11:58:14AM THERE WILL BE A WATER FOUNTAIN.
11:58:17AM POSSIBLE FUTURE RESTROOM.
11:58:19AM WE'RE PUTTING THAT OFF FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT IS POSSIBLY

11:58:22AM IN THE PLANS IN THE FUTURE.
11:58:23AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOOP TRAILS, BENCHES, PICNIC TABLES.
11:58:30AM NICE FENCE SO IT IS SECURE AND MAKING IT NICE IN THE
11:58:33AM NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, SO IT LOOKS NICE.
11:58:35AM LANDSCAPING AND CLEAR SIGHT LINES.
11:58:41AM WE ARE PROTECTING TREES.
11:58:42AM WE HAVE SOME REALLY SPECIAL TREES ON THAT PROPERTY.
11:58:47AM LIGHTING WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR SECURITY.
11:58:51AM AND WE'VE ALSO DESIGNED A PARKING SPOT FOR TPD TO BE ABLE TO
11:58:57AM COME AND WRITE REPORTS, SIT THERE, INTERACT WITH THE
11:59:00AM COMMUNITY.
11:59:00AM AND THERE IS A SPECIAL -- IS THERE ANOTHER ONE?
11:59:04AM NO.
11:59:06AM I THINK THAT IS THE ONE PICTURE.
11:59:07AM THE ADA PLAYGROUNDS ARE GOING TO BE ADA COMPLIANT FOR
11:59:13AM AUTISTIC CHILDREN.
11:59:15AM IT WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
11:59:16AM I WELCOME ALL OF YOU WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF GROUND
11:59:19AM BREAKING.
11:59:20AM I'LL MOVE AROUND QUICKLY.
11:59:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK YOU HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS UNLESS
11:59:24AM ANYBODY IN THE CRA BOARD OBJECTS, WOULD I GIVE HER MORE
11:59:26AM TIME.
11:59:27AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
11:59:28AM HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK YOU NEED, MARITZA?

11:59:31AM >> ABOUT ANOTHER MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS FOR MY LOST MENTION.
11:59:35AM THIS IS A BIG REPORT.
11:59:38AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD.
11:59:40AM WE CONTINUE WITH THE MOBILITY CONSECUTIVE SAFETY
11:59:43AM IMPROVEMENT.
11:59:44AM WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT AIR CARGO ROAD IS UNDER THE CITY, NOT
11:59:49AM THE AIRPORT.
11:59:50AM YOU'VE HEARD ME HERE BEFORE SAYING THE RACING, THE HIGH
11:59:59AM TRAFFIC, THE SPEEDING AND SO FORTH.
12:00:01PM AND THEN IT FEEDS INTO A 45, FEEDS INTO 25, YOU HEARD ME SAY
12:00:07PM THAT.
12:00:08PM ALSO HIGHLIGHTED IN ADDITION TO THIS PROGRAM, SEVERAL AREAS,
12:00:11PM NORTH HESPERIDES, THE CORRIDOR, WEST CREST AVENUE, HUBERT
12:00:17PM AND ALVA, HUBERT AND OSBORNE.
12:00:18PM LOIS AND ALVA.
12:00:20PM LOIS AND CAYUGA.
12:00:24PM LOIS LOCATION AND HESPERIDES LOCATION, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF
12:00:27PM HIT OR MISSES OF VEHICLE ACCIDENTS.
12:00:30PM WE HAVE ALSO SEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD FATALITIES.
12:00:36PM IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US IN THIS PROJECT THAT THIS BE ADDRESSED
12:00:39PM WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREAS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE.
12:00:43PM THE LANDSCAPING, WE'RE STILL CONTINUING WITH GRADY AND LOIS.
12:00:47PM THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE.
12:00:48PM WE HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR PERMITTING ALREADY, RIGHT?
12:00:51PM TO BEGIN THAT PROJECT.

12:00:53PM WE ARE MOVING ALONG.
12:00:54PM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE TO THE LAST ITEM?
12:01:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A COMPLIMENT.
12:01:02PM THE HUNTS RECREATION CENTER USED TO BE CLOSE BY.
12:01:05PM AL LOPEZ PARK IS THE CENTER WE MOVED OVER.
12:01:13PM TIME THAT ANOTHER PARK, YOU CAN NEVER HAVE MORE PARKS, I
12:01:16PM DON'T CARE WHAT CITY YOU ARE IN.
12:01:17PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE A TREMENDOUS UPLIFT TO THE
12:01:20PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE WHOLE OF DREW PARK AND TO THE
12:01:22PM ENTRANCE.
12:01:22PM BECAUSE OF CARGO ROAD, TAMPA IS LIKE ANOTHER PATHWAY INTO
12:01:27PM THE CITY.
12:01:28PM YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT DOWN HILLSBOROUGH, WHICH I DO NOT
12:01:31PM RECOMMEND.
12:01:31PM I RECOMMEND CARGO ROAD, LESS TRAFFIC.
12:01:36PM HUBERT BACKS UP, CARGO ROAD IS BACKING UP.
12:01:41PM I SEE THAT ON SOUTH ON CARGO ROAD.
12:01:44PM A LOT OF TRAFFIC NOW GOING IN AND OUT BECAUSE OF THE
12:01:46PM DEVELOPMENT THERE.
12:01:47PM THANK GOD THERE IS A BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE JOBS
12:01:50PM AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
12:01:52PM IT'S REALLY WORKING OUT FOR ALL OF US.
12:01:54PM I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND EVERYBODY WHERE YOU
12:01:58PM DO ALL YOUR WORK AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO MAKE THAT DREW PARK
12:02:02PM A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, PLAY, AND ENJOY LIFE.

12:02:05PM BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU ONE QUESTION, A FAVOR.
12:02:15PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:02:15PM I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE DEFENSE.
12:02:18PM I THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT UP NOW.
12:02:20PM IT WAS A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE A NICE TIME.
12:02:24PM >> DID YOU KNOW THAT WAS THE TOP THREE, IN THE TOP THREE
12:02:27PM HISPANIC EVENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA?
12:02:29PM FOR MANY REASONS, STARTING WITH COVID, WE POSTPONED IT.
12:02:36PM WE'RE HOPING FOR 2026.
12:02:42PM I GUESS JUST SAID IT OUT LOUD.
12:02:44PM I HAVE TO GET TO WORK.
12:02:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE CROWD WAS ALL WITH YOU.
12:02:47PM >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
12:02:48PM MY LAST COMMENT IS MR. RALPH LAVANDERA WAS A BOARD MEMBER
12:02:58PM FOR DREW PARK.
12:02:58PM ACTUALLY, HE WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE PARK BACK IN
12:03:01PM THE DAY WHEN HE WAS A MEMBER.
12:03:03PM HE HAS RECENTLY PASSED AWAY, APRIL 27.
12:03:07PM I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND THE
12:03:10PM WORK THAT HE DID FOR THE CRA AS WELL AS BEING A GREAT
12:03:14PM NEIGHBOR AND A GREAT BUSINESS PERSON.
12:03:17PM WE ARE MISSING HIM.
12:03:18PM HE WAS ALSO MY NEIGHBOR ON HESPERIDES.
12:03:21PM HE IS A WONDERFUL MAN, AND HE WAS VERY PROUD OF HIS SPANISH
12:03:27PM HERITAGE.

12:03:29PM CALLED ME HIS CUBAN COUSIN.
12:03:31PM HE DID SOME RESEARCH.
12:03:33PM WE MAY BE RELATED.
12:03:34PM I WANT TO SAY HE'S A WONDERFUL MAN.
12:03:38PM HE AND HIS WIFE STARTED LAVANDERA ELECTRIC, STILL GOING
12:03:45PM STRONG IN DREW PARK.
12:03:46PM WONDERFUL PERSON.
12:03:47PM ALSO A DRAGON.
12:03:49PM JEFFERSON PRODUCED A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE.
12:03:51PM I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DO MISS
12:03:57PM HIM AND JUST BRING UP RALPH LAVANDERA.
12:04:02PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:04:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:04:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SAY I HAD NOT SEEN THE SITE
12:04:09PM DESIGN FOR THIS PARK YET.
12:04:10PM I AM SO EXCITED BECAUSE I REMEMBER DRIVING BY WHEN I DID MY
12:04:13PM FIRST TOURS.
12:04:16PM IT WAS A BEAUTIFULLY WOODED LOT.
12:04:17PM I WAS WORRIED HOW WE WERE GOING TO BUILD A PARK WITH THAT
12:04:23PM MANY TREES.
12:04:23PM I JUST LOVE THIS DESIGN.
12:04:25PM CONGRATULATIONS.
12:04:25PM I WILL CERTAINLY BE THERE FOR THE GROUNDBREAKING.
12:04:28PM HOPEFULLY THE RIBBON CUTTING.
12:04:30PM IT IS SO AMAZING.

12:04:33PM CONGRATULATIONS.
12:04:33PM I KNOW THE COMMUNITY HAS NEEDED A PARK FOR A WHILE.
12:04:36PM AND ONE THAT'S NOT THE LINEAR PARK, BUT ONE THAT'S MORE
12:04:40PM FAMILY AND SHADED, QUITE FRANKLY.
12:04:42PM THE LINEAR PARK IS LOVELY, BUT NO SHADE THERE.
12:04:45PM SO THIS WILL REALLY ENABLE THAT.
12:04:48PM CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
12:04:52PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:04:53PM WE ARE PROUD OF IT.
12:04:54PM ANYTHING ELSE?
12:04:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:04:56PM IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
12:04:58PM WE TALKED ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS OVER THE LAST FEW
12:05:00PM YEARS.
12:05:01PM ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO DEAL WITH.
12:05:03PM AGAIN, I SALUTE YOU ALL.
12:05:04PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT FAMILIES AND MAKING DREW
12:05:06PM PARK AMENABLE FOR FAMILIES BECAUSE WE REMEMBER THE WAY IT
12:05:10PM WAS 20 YEARS AGO AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
12:05:13PM JUST MAKING IT A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES CAN BE PRODUCTIVE AND
12:05:17PM HAVE A GOOD QUALITY TIME AND SO FORTH.
12:05:20PM SO WE JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION.
12:05:22PM >> THANK YOU.
12:05:23PM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP FAMILIES.
12:05:24PM BECAUSE WE ARE BUSINESS AND WE ARE ALSO RESIDENCES.

12:05:29PM WE WORK VERY WELL TOGETHER.
12:05:30PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
12:05:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, NUMBER 2, MR. McCRAY.
12:05:38PM BY THE WAY, IF I MAY, CRA BOARD, WE ARE PAST NOON.
12:05:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: USUALLY 1 IS WHEN WE END.
12:05:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'RE FINE.
12:05:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY WITH 1?
12:05:53PM STAFF?
12:05:53PM HAVE AT IT.
12:05:55PM 1:00 LET'S ASPIRE.
12:05:56PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:05:57PM CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
12:06:00PM IF I COULD MAKE ONE REQUEST FOR AN ADJUSTMENT, MR. DAVID
12:06:05PM ILOANYA WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, AT THE REQUEST OF CHAIR
12:06:08PM HENDERSON, WAS COMING FORWARD TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE
12:06:11PM JOHNSON BROTHERS PROPERTIES.
12:06:13PM I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND BRING HIM UP AT THIS POINT IN TIME
12:06:16PM IF WE CAN.
12:06:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
12:06:28PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CRA BOARD.
12:06:32PM IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.
12:06:33PM BEFORE I START, I AM SADDENED BY THE SUDDEN DEPARTURE OF
12:06:39PM BELOVED COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BECAUSE I WAS WITH HER IN
12:06:46PM MARCH AT PERRY HARVEY PARK.
12:06:50PM RIBBON CUTTING.

12:06:53PM SHE LOOKED WELL.
12:06:55PM PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR MY VOICE.
12:06:58PM I HOPE IT'S NOT A DISTRACTION HERE.
12:07:03PM SHE LOOKED WELL WITH THE ENERGY AND TENACITY AND FULL OF
12:07:09PM PASSION.
12:07:09PM TO HEAR OF THE SUDDEN DEPARTURE WAS A SHOCK TO EVERYONE I
12:07:14PM KNOW.
12:07:17PM ON BEHALF OF TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, JEROME, LEROY, I HAVE
12:07:24PM THE STAFF HERE WITH ME, WE EXPRESS CONDOLENCES TO THE
12:07:27PM FAMILY.
12:07:27PM I KNOW THAT GOD DOESN'T MAKE MISTAKES.
12:07:30PM WITH THAT, AND SHE IS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY REQUESTED FOR
12:07:36PM THIS AND NOT KNOWING THAT SHE WILL NOT BE HERE, BUT GOD
12:07:40PM KNOWS WHY.
12:07:41PM WITH THAT, I WILL PROCEED.
12:07:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, SIR.
12:07:45PM JUST SO WE KNOW, DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO, ROUGHLY HOW LONG DO
12:07:49PM YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR THE PRESENTATION?
12:07:51PM >> I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF.
12:07:52PM I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ABOUT 15 MINUTES OR SO.
12:07:57PM 10 MINUTES.
12:07:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU THINK 10 OR 15?
12:08:01PM WE'LL PUT THE TIMER ON 10 JUST TO KEEP ABREAST.
12:08:07PM >> MY NAME IS DAVID ILOANYA.
12:08:13PM I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TAMPA HOUSING

12:08:13PM AUTHORITY.
12:08:14PM I HAVE STAFF WITH ME.
12:08:53PM >> EXCELLENT.
12:08:54PM THIS IS AN UPDATE ON JOHNSON BROTHERS' HOUSE.
12:09:00PM THIS IS TWO OF THE LAST REMAINING TURN OF THE CENTURY HOUSES
12:09:16PM IN THE ONCE THRIVING CENTRAL AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRICT OF THE
12:09:19PM SCRUB.
12:09:20PM THE HOUSES WERE PURCHASED BY JOHNSON BROTHERS IN 1921 --
12:09:30PM 1981.
12:09:32PM 2021, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY PURCHASED IT BACK.
12:09:38PM THIS IS ALL IN LINE WITH OUR VISION WITH THE HISTORY OF
12:09:41PM CENTRAL PARK WHICH IS NOW THE ENCORE TO MAKE SURE THAT
12:09:46PM HISTORY IS RETAINED.
12:09:48PM COUNCILWOMAN WAS VERY ADAMANT AND VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
12:09:57PM THOSE ARE THE TWO HOUSES.
12:09:59PM THIS GIVES YOU A QUICK REFERENCE IN TERMS OF CONTEXT WHERE
12:10:03PM THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
12:10:09PM THE SCRUB WAS ONCE TAMPA'S OLDEST AND LARGEST AFRICAN
12:10:13PM AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT TRACES ITS HISTORY BACK JUST TO
12:10:19PM THE CIVIL WAR NEWLY FREED SLAVES WERE FREED AND SETTLED AND
12:10:30PM BUILT HOMES JUST OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:10:34PM EVERYTHING ON THAT AVENUE BETWEEN 1900 AND 1930, THE CENTRAL
12:10:44PM AVENUE BECOMES THE HEART OF THE SCRUB AT THAT TIME WHERE
12:10:50PM THEY SETTLED.
12:10:51PM BLACK POPULATIONS QUADRUPLED FROM OVER 4,000 TO 21,000.

12:10:57PM LIKEWISE BUSINESSES ROSE AS WELL TO 200.
12:11:02PM EVERYTHING THAT PERTAINS TO THE DAILY LIFE WAS COMING OUT OF
12:11:08PM THAT CENTRAL PARK.
12:11:09PM WHEN WE STARTED BUILDING, REDEVELOPING CENTRAL PARK TO
12:11:15PM ENCORE, WE MADE SURE THAT HISTORY WAS RETAINED.
12:11:20PM AGAIN, THIS IS A QUICK HISTORY OF THAT ERA.
12:11:26PM BASEBALL GREAT JACKIE ROBINSON STAYED IN A BOARDING HOUSE
12:11:30PM NOT FAR FROM THERE.
12:11:31PM RAY CHARLES RECORDED HIS FIRST ALBUM WHILE RESIDING THERE.
12:11:40PM ELLA FITZGERALD WROTE THE SONG, A TISKET A TASKET IN MY RED
12:11:52PM AND YELLOW BASKET.
12:11:53PM THE HIGHWAY, I-4 INTERFERED WITH THAT PRESENCE AND THAT
12:12:00PM CONSTRUCTION SORT OF MOVED AWAY, ALL THE BLACK BUSINESSES IN
12:12:06PM THAT AREA.
12:12:07PM THAT IS WHEN CENTRAL PARK WAS BUILT.
12:12:12PM THIS IS JUST GIVING YOU IN THE '50s, THE AERIAL VIEW, WHAT
12:12:23PM THE SCRUB USED TO LOOK LIKE.
12:12:24PM THIS IS LOOKING DOWN CENTRAL PARK.
12:12:28PM YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE IT WAS DEMOLISHED.
12:12:32PM OF COURSE, WE TRANSFORMED THAT TO WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS THE
12:12:36PM ENCORE.
12:12:38PM THE FIRST BUILDING BUILT WAS THE ELLA.
12:12:41PM 150 UNITS, ALL AFFORDABLE, CITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
12:12:45PM IT WAS 12 CITY BLOCKS OF BUILDABLE.
12:12:49PM ADJACENT TO PERRY HARVEY PARK.

12:12:53PM BECAUSE OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT, WE WERE ABLE TO REJUVENATE
12:12:59PM THE DILAPIDATED PERRY HARVEY PARK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
12:13:03PM CITY, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND WE BROUGHT IT TO
12:13:08PM LIFE.
12:13:08PM CENTRAL PARK, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WAS ONLY EMPLOYED ROUGHLY 19
12:13:20PM STAFF AND WAS NOT CONTRIBUTING TO ANY TAX BASE FOR THE CITY.
12:13:23PM THIS REDEVELOPMENT, 483 UNITS.
12:13:26PM UPON REDEVELOPMENT, WHEN SAID AND DONE, BRING OVER 2700
12:13:33PM UNITS, INCLUDING WHAT WE DEVELOPED AND WHAT WE SOLD TO THIRD
12:13:37PM PARTY DEVELOPERS, WHICH IS STILL ONGOING.
12:13:40PM BANK OF AMERICA, WHO IS A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER FOR BUILDINGS,
12:13:47PM 669 UNITS OF WHICH 559 WERE AFFORDABLE, WHICH ACTUALLY
12:13:52PM SURPASSES WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
12:13:54PM THIS BUILDING, THE JOB TRAINING CENTER WAS, AGAIN, A
12:13:59PM REQUIREMENT BASED ON THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED FROM HUD
12:14:03PM TO BUILD A JOB TRAINING FACILITY, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY
12:14:11PM REDEVELOPMENT THAT CONTRIBUTED TO OVERALL DEVELOPMENT OF
12:14:13PM THAT AREA.
12:14:15PM THEN THE MEACHAM URBAN FARM, SWAP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
12:14:26PM WE TURNED THAT INTO URBAN FARM, WHICH IS ON GOING AND HAS
12:14:34PM BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF FOOD DESERT
12:14:40PM AND FOOD PRODUCTIVE WITHIN THE AREA.
12:14:42PM THE TAMPA BAY HISTORY MUSEUM, WHICH WAS THE CHURCH, BUILT IN
12:14:49PM 1921.
12:14:50PM ANOTHER HISTORIC CHURCH WE PRESERVE.

12:14:57PM THIS IS AGAIN LOOKING AT JOHNSON BROTHERS HOMES WHERE IT'S
12:15:02PM LOCATED IN CONTEXT WITH THE ENCORE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT WE ARE
12:15:05PM DOING HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN THE HISTORICALLY
12:15:09PM PRESERVED JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME AND MAKE SURE THAT IT ALIGNS
12:15:14PM WITH OUR VISION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
12:15:19PM WE ACQUIRED THE LOTS IN THAT AREA TO MIMIC WHAT USED TO BE
12:15:25PM IN THAT AREA DURING THE SCRUB ERA AS JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME
12:15:29PM WAS THE ONLY TWO REMAINING SCRUB BUILT HOUSES THAT REMAIN.
12:15:33PM WE WANTED TO REPLICATE THOSE TYPE OF BUILDINGS, BUT IN
12:15:36PM TODAY'S ARCHITECTURAL FABRICS.
12:15:40PM THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING HERE.
12:15:43PM AND SELL IT TO THIRD PARTY AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE
12:15:47PM THEN IT WOULD DISAPPEAR FROM THERE.
12:15:50PM THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU THE TAMPA CRA AREA, WHICH IS 143
12:15:56PM ACRES.
12:15:57PM WHAT -- THIS IS WHAT WE, AGAIN, JUST SHOWING THE ACQUISITION
12:16:01PM THAT WE ENGAGED IN DURING THE REDEVELOPMENT OF CENTRAL PARK
12:16:06PM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY IN CONNECTIVITY
12:16:14PM AND THE PROFICIENCY OF THE REDEVELOPMENT VISION TO MAKE SURE
12:16:20PM IT'S WELL CONNECTED WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
12:16:23PM BACK TO THE JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE
12:16:33PM NOW.
12:16:33PM WE HAVE EFFECTIVELY BEEN ABLE TO SECURE THE LAND AREA FOR
12:16:40PM ALL THAT.
12:16:43PM AND IN DOING THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE

12:16:48PM EFFICIENCY IN TERMS OF CIRCULATION IN AND OUT OF THAT SITE.
12:16:51PM WE ARE PROJECTING THE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S
12:16:57PM CONSISTENT.
12:16:58PM JOHNSON BROTHERS HOMES, THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE DESIGNATION
12:17:04PM OF THE PRESERVATION THAT WE GOT FROM THE CITY AND THE
12:17:09PM HISTORIC JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME.
12:17:11PM THIS IS JUST THE HOUSES AGAIN SHOWING -- THIS IS A PUBLIC
12:17:15PM NOTICE THAT WE PUT OUT IN 2023 THAT IS A REQUIREMENT WHEN WE
12:17:22PM REQUEST FOR HISTORIC LOCAL LANDMARK THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE
12:17:28PM CITY.
12:17:28PM THAT IS THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ISSUED WHEN IT WAS ISSUED.
12:17:33PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SPECIFIC TO THOSE TWO BUILDINGS.
12:17:38PM WE ENVISION HAVING THOSE TWO BUILDINGS IS PROPOSED.
12:17:45PM ONE WOULD BE FOR A GIFT SHOP.
12:17:47PM THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE FOR A COFFEE SHOP.
12:17:49PM WE ARE RETAINING THE FABRIC OF THE BUILDING TO MAINTAIN THAT
12:17:56PM HISTORIC PRESENCE OF THE FABRIC.
12:18:00PM BUT WITHIN THE INSIDE, WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO MAKE SURE
12:18:04PM THAT IT ACCOMMODATES TODAY'S ADA AND CIRCULATION OF THE
12:18:11PM INNER SPACE.
12:18:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW MUCH LONGER, THREE MINUTES? FIVE MINUTES?
12:18:15PM >> ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.
12:18:16PM AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND TIME WITH THIS IN TERMS OF THE
12:18:23PM LAYOUT.
12:18:28PM ONE OF THE HOUSES, AGAIN, IS SET TO BE USED FOR A GIFT SHOP.

12:18:32PM THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE REARRANGEMENT OF THE INTERIOR SPACE
12:18:37PM AS PART OF THE SPACE PLANNING, SHOWING YOU WHAT IT WAS AND
12:18:43PM WHAT WE HAVE WHEN IT IS DONE.
12:18:44PM BUT BEING CAREFUL TO SALVAGE WHAT WE CAN TO RETAIN THE
12:18:50PM ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE OF THE OLD BUILDING.
12:18:54PM THE OTHER SIDE WILL BE FOR COFFEE SHOP.
12:19:01PM THE FLOOR PLAN ON THE RIGHT JUST SHOWING THE LAYOUT AGAIN,
12:19:10PM YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.
12:19:12PM WE'RE GOING AFTER PD.
12:19:14PM WE HAVE ENGAGED STEARNS WEAVER FIRM TO HELP US WITH THE
12:19:21PM REZONING, WHICH WILL BE COMING TO THE CITY.
12:19:27PM ABOUT SIX TO NINE MONTHS TO ACCOMPLISH.
12:19:29PM THIS WILL BE GOING ON.
12:19:32PM SO THIS IS, AGAIN, ALL THE AREA THAT WE WORK HARD TO MAKE
12:19:37PM SURE THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE AREAS, ACCOMPLISH THE
12:19:42PM VISION FOR THAT AREA, TO REIMAGINE THE SCRUB PROJECT.
12:19:49PM AGAIN, THIS IS A COLLABORATION THAT WAS STARTED WITH WIRE
12:19:53PM DEVELOPMENT, A MINORITY DEVELOPER THAT WE ENGAGED WHO
12:19:58PM BROUGHT IN AN ARCHITECT TO HELP US PROVIDE A VISION IN TERMS
12:20:02PM OF ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE.
12:20:06PM THIS IS AGAIN, REMINDING THE AREA VIEW OF WHAT THE AREA USED
12:20:11PM TO LOOK LIKE FROM 1957 ALL THE WAY TO 2021.
12:20:14PM YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CLARITY IN TERMS OF DENSIFICATION AS WE
12:20:23PM APPROACH TO TODAY'S VISION.
12:20:25PM THIS IS, AGAIN, THE LINED AREA IN THE '20s.

12:20:31PM THIS IS WHAT WE REIMAGINE IN THE SCRUB TO BE.
12:20:34PM SO YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEE THE SIZE OF THE LOT TO MIMIC THE
12:20:43PM JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME BUT AGAIN TO HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL
12:20:47PM PRESENCE FOR TODAY'S --
12:20:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:20:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO COME IN FRONT OF
12:20:53PM COUNCIL AS A REZONING, I DON'T THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE TO
12:20:56PM SEE THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF IT.
12:21:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'RE RIGHT.
12:21:01PM THAT IS A GREAT POINT.
12:21:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
12:21:05PM I THINK WE SHOULD NOT SEE THIS PORTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
12:21:08PM US TO NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THIS.
12:21:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: WELL SAID.
12:21:11PM TO THE EXTENT IT GOES TO THE REZONING, YOU PROBABLY
12:21:15PM SHOULDN'T SPEAK IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE IT WILL BE BEFORE US
12:21:19PM IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL CAPACITY.
12:21:22PM GO AHEAD AFTER THAT.
12:21:25PM >> I WILL SKIP THROUGH ALL THIS.
12:21:27PM I'M ONLY SPEAKING IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL VISION
12:21:31PM IS.
12:21:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, NOTHING ON THAT REZONING.
12:21:34PM ZERO.
12:21:35PM >> ALL RIGHT.
12:21:36PM WELL, WITH THAT SAID, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE ARE PLANNING

12:21:41PM TO UTILIZE THE SITE AREA TO MIMIC WHAT USED TO BE THERE
12:21:46PM BEFORE.
12:21:47PM I'M NOT SHOWING YOU --
12:21:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU CAN'T SHOW US, YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO IT.
12:21:52PM NOTHING.
12:21:53PM I WOULD TAKE THAT WHOLE PART AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
12:21:56PM ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
12:21:58PM >> ALL RIGHT.
12:21:59PM THIS IS WHAT THE REPRESENTATION OF SIMILAR TO JOHNSON
12:22:07PM BROTHERS HOME THAT WE HAVE PICTURED HERE AS WHAT WE ARE
12:22:12PM LOOKING.
12:22:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS PROBABLY THE RESULT.
12:22:15PM AGAIN, ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE REZONING, WE CAN'T LEGALLY
12:22:18PM TALK ABOUT IT OUTSIDE OF THE HEARING.
12:22:21PM >> THIS IS JUST THE ARCHITECTURE OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO
12:22:24PM DO.
12:22:24PM I UNDERSTAND.
12:22:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S CAUSALLY RELATED.
12:22:27PM GO BEYOND THAT TO WHATEVER YOUR NEXT THING IS OUTSIDE --
12:22:31PM >> THE ONLY THING IS THAT IT IS GOOD THAT WE ARE DOING THIS.
12:22:36PM IT IS GOOD THAT WE HAVE A SITE CONTROL WHERE THIS IS
12:22:41PM LOCATED. WHAT WE ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN THE
12:22:45PM PRESENCE OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THIS BUILDING TO SORT OF
12:22:49PM RETAIN THAT HISTORY OF JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME BECAUSE THOSE
12:22:54PM TWO ARE THE ONLY REMAINING SCRUB BUILDING, HOUSES IN THAT

12:23:00PM AREA.
12:23:00PM THAT ARE REMAINING TODAY.
12:23:03PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE THAT HISTORY.
12:23:06PM AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON REMINDED US OF AND
12:23:13PM WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BEFORE SHE LEFT.
12:23:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:23:19PM >> SHE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE AND WANTED TO SEE WHERE WE ARE
12:23:22PM WITH THE PROJECT.
12:23:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:23:24PM WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR PRESENTATION.
12:23:26PM COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY THOUGHTS ON IT?
12:23:28PM BY THE WAY, SINCE WE'RE KEEPING MIND OF THE 1:00 CLOCK, ARE
12:23:31PM YOU ALL OKAY WITH TWO-MINUTE LIMITS ON SPEAKING AT THIS
12:23:34PM TIME?
12:23:35PM >> YES.
12:23:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: HAVE AT IT.
12:23:37PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:23:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING, WHY WE SAY
12:23:39PM WHAT WE SAID, FOUR WORDS, YESTERDAY, TODAY, TOMORROW, AND
12:23:43PM FOREVER, WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT YESTERDAY.
12:23:46PM ON COUNCIL WE CAN TALK ABOUT TODAY, TOMORROW AND FOREVER.
12:23:48PM IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND AT TIMES.
12:23:53PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:54PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:23:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
12:24:00PM I'M GLAD TO SEE EVEN THOUGH THEY -- ESSENTIALLY, THEY,
12:24:05PM HISTORY ESSENTIALLY WIPED OUT AN ENTIRE BLACK COMMUNITY,
12:24:11PM LIKE DEMOLISHING YBOR CITY.
12:24:12PM YOU THINK ABOUT CENTRAL AVENUE, LIKE A 7th AVENUE.
12:24:15PM AND YBOR CITY ALTHOUGH HAD SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BECAUSE OF
12:24:20PM URBAN RENEWAL AND THE INTERSTATE AND SO MANY OTHER ASPECTS,
12:24:24PM CENTRAL AVENUE IS ESSENTIALLY WIPED OUT.
12:24:27PM I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.
12:24:29PM EVEN MY WIFE, SHE IS STUDYING TO GET HER MASTERS AND SHE DID
12:24:34PM A PAPER ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
12:24:37PM ITS DISAPPEARANCE.
12:24:38PM SHE WATCHED THE DOCUMENTARY.
12:24:40PM I TOLD HER I CAN'T TAKE YOU DOWN THERE TO SHOW YOU OTHER
12:24:43PM THAN JACKSON HOUSE, JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME, ST. JAMES,
12:24:47PM LONGSHOREMEN, VERY LITTLE IS LEFT.
12:24:50PM SO WE HAVE TO PRESERVE WHAT IS STILL THERE AND THE JOHNSON
12:24:56PM BROTHERS HOMES IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT IS A GLIMPSE
12:24:59PM INTO THE PAST AND WHAT USED TO BE.
12:25:01PM SO PEOPLE CAN IMAGINE IT, SEE IT WITHOUT HAVING TO LOOK AT
12:25:04PM PHOTOGRAPHS.
12:25:04PM I THINK YOU DOING THIS AND YOUR ORGANIZATION I THINK IS A
12:25:09PM VERY GOOD THING.
12:25:10PM I WISH THERE WERE MORE STRUCTURES.
12:25:12PM AS YOU SHOWED IN THE PHOTOS FROM 1957 TO 1969, AND WE HAD

12:25:16PM RIOTS IN BETWEEN AND A LOT OF OTHER SITUATIONS, THAT
12:25:20PM NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT THE SAME AND NOTHING LIKE IT USED TO BE.
12:25:24PM SO ANY TYPE OF PRESERVATION IS ALWAYS A PLUS IN MY BOOK.
12:25:28PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:25:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
12:25:31PM THANK YOU, SIR.
12:25:33PM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.
12:25:35PM AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING, TAKE AWAY THE QUASI-JUDICIAL
12:25:39PM MATTER IN TERMS OF THE INTENT OF EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
12:25:42PM I KNOW WE ALL FULLY SUPPORT IT.
12:25:44PM IT'S SOMETHING AFTER THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN'S HEART.
12:25:47PM VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
12:25:49PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:25:50PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
12:25:50PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:25:53PM IT'S IN OUR HEART, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT TAMPA HOUSING
12:25:55PM AUTHORITY WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S
12:26:00PM THE ONLY WAY THIS PROPERTY WOULD HAVE BEEN SUSTAINED AND
12:26:03PM RETAINED TO KEEP OUR HISTORY IN PLACE.
12:26:06PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:26:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:26:07PM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
12:26:08PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
12:26:09PM MR. McCRAY, ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU, SIR?
12:26:11PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, I KNOW WE'RE

12:26:13PM TRYING TO MOVE THE AGENDA ALONG, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
12:26:17PM RELATED TO THE TRACKERS THAT WERE INCLUDED PER YOUR REQUEST.
12:26:20PM AND YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER AT YOUR SEAT
12:26:25PM AT THE DAIS.
12:26:26PM JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
12:26:28PM I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:26:29PM OTHER THAN THAT, I WILL CALL UP MR. CAMPBELL TO COME AND
12:26:32PM PRESENT AS IT RELATES TO ASHLEY UNITE.
12:26:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM
12:26:42PM 4?
12:26:43PM APPRECIATE IT.
12:26:44PM HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR YOUR PRESENTATION?
12:26:46PM >> WHEN I WENT OVER IT, IT WAS TEN MINUTES.
12:26:48PM I'LL MAKE IT FASTER.
12:26:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL CLOCK YOU AT 10.
12:26:53PM >> THANK YOU.
12:26:54PM GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD.
12:26:55PM BRANDON CAMPBELL WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY.
12:26:57PM WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR REQUEST
12:27:00PM FOR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR THE ASHLEY DRIVE RECONNECTING
12:27:05PM COMMUNITIES PROJECT.
12:27:06PM I KNOW I HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU IN YOUR CAPACITY AS CITY
12:27:09PM COUNCIL BEFORE, SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE ASPECTS
12:27:12PM AND MANY OF THE ASPECTS, I SHOULD SAY, OF THIS PROJECT.
12:27:16PM BECAUSE OF THAT, I'LL SPEED THROUGH WHAT I HAD PREVIOUSLY

12:27:19PM UPLOADED.
12:27:20PM THE REQUEST ITSELF IS FOR $8 MILLION TOWARD OUR $22 MILLION
12:27:25PM PROJECT.
12:27:25PM MR. McCRAY HAD UPLOADED TO YOUR AGENDA TODAY THE DETAILS
12:27:29PM OF THAT REQUEST, SPLIT OVER THREE DIFFERENT FISCAL YEARS AND
12:27:35PM ITS TIE INTO THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
12:27:38PM AS HE AND I HAD DISCUSSED AS WELL AS I HAD PRESENTED TO THE
12:27:41PM CAC.
12:27:42PM DO HAVE A VIDEO.
12:27:45PM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL INCLUDE AUDIO.
12:27:48PM IT'S OKAY IF IT IS SILENT.
12:27:49PM BUT WANTED TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT.
12:27:55PM JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL CONTEXT TO WHERE THIS
12:28:01PM IS AND HOW IT'S RELATED TO THE REST OF OUR NETWORK DOWNTOWN.
12:28:07PM THE PRIMARY WORK ITEM OF THIS PROJECT IS THE REMOVAL OF THAT
12:28:10PM BRIDGE BARRIER ON ASHLEY DRIVE NORTHBOUND.
12:28:13PM THE RECONNECTION OF HARRISON STREET IN THAT VICINITY TO
12:28:18PM BETTER CONNECT THE GRID, BRING THAT DOWN TO GRADE, ALLOW FOR
12:28:22PM BETTER ACCESS TO THE AREA, SPECIFICALLY FOR ACTIVE
12:28:26PM TRANSPORTATION USERS, AND THEN TO ENABLE THE HIGHEST
12:28:31PM REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY CURRENTLY
12:28:37PM UNDER AN RFP.
12:28:38PM YOU, I'M SURE ARE AWARE THAT THE ALIGNMENT OF THE FUTURE
12:28:43PM EXTENSION OF THE STREETCAR ROUTE, SHOULD THAT COME TO
12:28:46PM FRUITION, IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THAT.

12:28:49PM IT IS ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE RIVERFRONT, THE
12:28:52PM EXISTING RIVERWALK, AND THE WEST RIVERWALK IS UNDERWAY.
12:28:55PM AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ON THE PERIPHERY OF THIS AREA,
12:29:01PM NORTHERN PART OF DOWNTOWN, THE ROME YARD REDEVELOPMENT,
12:29:05PM ENCORE DISTRICT WHICH WAS JUST DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS
12:29:08PM ITEM AND THEN JUST SORT ON THE NEXT OUTER RING IS THE
12:29:13PM GASWORX REDEVELOPMENT.
12:29:15PM THESE ARE ALL RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER, BUT MOSTLY WHAT I
12:29:20PM WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WITH THIS VIDEO WAS THE PROXIMITY OF THE
12:29:24PM ASHLEY DRIVE PROJECT TO SOME OF OUR OTHER ACTIVE
12:29:28PM TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES.
12:29:29PM IT'S ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM THE GREEN SPINE, WHICH HAS BEEN
12:29:32PM BUILT OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS AND JUST ENTERING ITS FINAL
12:29:37PM PHASE.
12:29:39PM THE NEXT SET OF PICTURES, ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING
12:29:41PM CONFIGURATION.
12:29:42PM YOU CAN SEE THAT SLIP LANE FROM SOUTHBOUND ASHLEY DRIVE ONTO
12:29:46PM TAMPA STREET AND THE REMOVAL OF THAT THAT'S ENVISIONED WITH
12:29:53PM THE RENDERING ON THE RIGHT, BRINGING THAT AGAIN DOWN TO THE
12:29:57PM GRADE OF THE REST OF THE NETWORK.
12:29:59PM THIS PICTURE IS SOMETHING I BROUGHT IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN I
12:30:04PM SPOKE TO YOU AS CITY COUNCIL.
12:30:07PM BUT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT EXACTLY THE AREA THAT WE ARE PLANNING
12:30:12PM TO RECONSTRUCT WITH THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT IS THAT OUTLINED
12:30:15PM IN RED.

12:30:18PM OUTLINED IN BLUE ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS IS A
12:30:21PM SEPARATE F.D.O.T. PROJECT THAT THEY HAVE YET TO PROGRAM, BUT
12:30:26PM WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON COORDINATING PROJECT NEEDS.
12:30:29PM AND THEN ON THE RIGHT OF THAT PICTURE IS THAT RFP, 25P-85,
12:30:35PM THAT HAS BEEN ADVERTISED FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF ARMY NAVY
12:30:41PM AND THE REGIONAL LOT.
12:30:43PM WE ARE BRINGING THIS NORTHBOUND DOWN TO GRADE.
12:30:47PM WE'LL HAVE AN AT-GRADE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION WITH HARRISON
12:30:50PM WHICH WILL BE EXTENDED FROM THAT -- FROM ITS NEW TERMINUS, I
12:30:56PM GUESS I WOULD SAY, OR REESTABLISHED TERMINUS AT TAMPA
12:30:59PM STREET, AND THEN ON OVER TO WHERE IT WOULD ALIGN WITH WHAT
12:31:02PM IS NOW FORTUNE STREET.
12:31:04PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS OF THE CONCEPT AS WELL.
12:31:08PM THIS IS FROM A LITTLE BIT OF AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE, SHOWING
12:31:12PM THAT BRIDGE ON THE LEFT THAT IS GOING TO BE REMOVED.
12:31:15PM AND THEN THE RENDERING SHOWING SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE
12:31:19PM BICYCLIST AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AS WELL.
12:31:22PM AND THE BACKGROUND OF THAT PICTURE, SOME POSSIBILITY FOR
12:31:27PM REDEVELOPMENT UNDER THAT EXISTING RFP.
12:31:30PM HERE IT IS FROM THE STREET LEVEL.
12:31:33PM I LIKE THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT BECAUSE IT DOES ADEQUATELY
12:31:36PM REPRESENT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU'RE APPROACHING AND THE
12:31:40PM SORT OF BARRIERS YOU WOULD ENCOUNTER SHOULD YOU WISH TO
12:31:43PM CROSS THAT ROAD ON FOOT OR ON BICYCLE.
12:31:46PM BUT ALSO IT SHOWS THE SORT OF WIDE-OPEN SPACE THAT

12:31:50PM ENCOURAGES HIGHER SPEEDS FOR THE SOUTHBOUND VEHICLES.
12:31:53PM TIES BACK INTO THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN ARE
12:32:00PM ALSO IN THE MEMO THAT MR. McCRAY HAD UPLOADED.
12:32:03PM BUT THESE ARE DIRECTLY FROM THAT AND RELATED VERY CLOSELY TO
12:32:07PM THE PROJECT AS WE ENVISION IT, TO CREATE AN EFFICIENT
12:32:10PM PATTERN OF CIRCULATION FOR TRANSIT USE, IDENTIFYING
12:32:13PM ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRAVEL.
12:32:16PM MENTIONED THE STREETCAR EXTENSION AS WELL AS THE OTHER
12:32:20PM ALTERNATE MODES THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, TO PROVIDE FOR
12:32:22PM UTILIZING THE WATERFRONT TO ITS BEST ADVANTAGE.
12:32:25PM AGAIN THIS OPENS UP ONE ADDITIONAL DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE
12:32:28PM WATERFRONT AND TO THE RIVERWALK.
12:32:30PM AND THEN TO DEVELOP A MIXED USE OR URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
12:32:34PM BRINGING THAT DOWN TO GRADE ENABLES A LITTLE HIGHER
12:32:39PM POTENTIAL FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING
12:32:42PM CONSIDERED.
12:32:42PM THIS TABLE REFLECTS WHAT IS IN THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION THAT
12:32:49PM HAS COME BEFORE YOU ACTING AS CITY COUNCIL AND HAS BEEN
12:32:52PM CONTINUED TO JUNE 26.
12:32:54PM BUT THIS GRANT REQUEST OR THE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING REQUEST
12:32:58PM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY IS THE $8 MILLION TOWARD THE
12:33:02PM OVERALL ANTICIPATED PROJECT COST OF 22 MILLION.
12:33:06PM SO THAT SAID, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:33:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS THE MAKER OF THE
12:33:13PM MOTION.

12:33:13PM THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:33:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHILE WE'RE HERE, SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR 8
12:33:23PM MILLION BUT THEN 8.65 MILLION LEFT.
12:33:27PM THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE PROGRAMMED.
12:33:34PM >> YEAH.
12:33:35PM SO I THINK OUR CFO HAS SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT THIS A LITTLE
12:33:39PM BIT.
12:33:39PM THE THIRD LINE ITEM DOWN THAT'S $4.7 MILLION IS EXISTING
12:33:44PM BOND FUNDING THAT IS ON A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT JUST
12:33:49PM WASN'T QUITE ENOUGH TO FUND THE PROJECT AS INITIALLY
12:33:53PM ENVISIONED.
12:33:54PM SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE REALLOCATED.
12:33:56PM THE GRANT AMOUNT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNDER THE
12:34:00PM RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES PROGRAM IS 5.3.
12:34:04PM AND THE YET TO BE DETERMINED LINE ITEM IS THAT NEARLY $4
12:34:09PM MILLION.
12:34:10PM THAT I THINK DENNIS WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU SPEAKING ABOUT
12:34:13PM WHAT POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCES OR FUND SOURCES WOULD DO
12:34:17PM THAT.
12:34:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:34:21PM CAN YOU GO BACK TO ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES?
12:34:23PM GO ONE MORE BACK.
12:34:26PM SO -- ONE MORE BACK.
12:34:29PM ONE OF THE FIRST ORIGINAL PHOTOS -- SORRY, MAYBE TWO MORE.
12:34:35PM AT THE VERY TOP, I CAN SEE WHERE YOU ARE RECONNECTING

12:34:43PM HARRISON.
12:34:44PM WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING TO LAUREL?
12:34:46PM WILL LAUREL STILL GO UNDER A BRIDGE OF SOME SORT?
12:34:50PM >> IT WILL.
12:34:50PM THOSE BRIDGES ARE PART OF F.D.O.T.
12:34:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD TO KNOW.
12:34:56PM YOU HAD LIKE A STANDING VIEW OF WHAT THOSE NEW GRADE LEVEL
12:35:02PM STREETS WERE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
12:35:03PM ONE MORE.
12:35:07PM YEAH, THIS.
12:35:14PM WHAT I NOTICED ABOUT THIS NEW VISION FROM ASHLEY DRIVE FROM
12:35:18PM ABOVE, IS THAT LOOKS LIKE SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC.
12:35:24PM I'M GOING TO SAY THAT'S JUST -- THAT'S TOO MANY LANES.
12:35:26PM THAT'S GOING TO BE MY BIG THING IS THAT IS JUST WAY TOO MANY
12:35:33PM LANES.
12:35:33PM WHEN YOU HAVE SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC, IT IS NO LONGER A
12:35:38PM DOWNTOWN STREET.
12:35:38PM IT IS AN INTERSTATE.
12:35:40PM >> UNDERSTOOD.
12:35:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHILE I DO SEE THAT SOME OF THOSE ARE
12:35:43PM RIGHT-HAND TURN, LIKE THE ONE GOING NORTH, I UNDERSTAND
12:35:45PM THAT'S TURNING ONTO, BUT THE ONES COMING INTO DOWNTOWN, I
12:35:49PM REALLY DO BELIEVE BECAUSE NOW IT'S FOUR LANES AT THAT
12:35:53PM INTERSECTION.
12:35:54PM I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ENTERING OUR DOWNTOWN.

12:35:58PM BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS
12:36:00PM ASHLEY DRIVE ACTS STILL LIKE AN INTERSTATE WHEN PEOPLE COME
12:36:04PM OFF OF IT.
12:36:05PM IF YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO REIMAGINE THIS, WE NEED TO
12:36:08PM REIMAGINE IT TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC AS IT COMES INTO DOWNTOWN,
12:36:14PM NOT STILL CREATE THE SPEEDWAY THAT EXISTS TODAY.
12:36:20PM WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE COMING DOWNTOWN.
12:36:22PM THAT'S HOW I COME IN THE MORNING.
12:36:24PM AND JUST THE SPEED OF PEOPLE SPEEDING DOWN ASHLEY.
12:36:28PM IF WE REALLY WANT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS THE RIVERWALK
12:36:32PM AND THERE'S DOWNTOWN.
12:36:33PM AND IT DOES NOT CONNECT.
12:36:35PM THERE ARE CROSSWALKS THAT ARE DANGEROUS, BUT THERE'S NO
12:36:40PM FEELING THAT IT ALL BELONGS TOGETHER.
12:36:42PM THE SIX LANES IS WHY.
12:36:46PM SO I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE YOU AS WE LOOK AT THIS TO REDUCE
12:36:49PM IT FROM SIX LANES TO FOUR LANES AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
12:36:57PM WE CAN BRING THIS DOWN BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP.
12:37:00PM THE THING THAT I WANT TO TALK TO COUNCIL ABOUT, I'M SORRY,
12:37:04PM TO THE BOARD ABOUT, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.
12:37:09PM AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP TODAY, THAT I BELIEVE THAT
12:37:13PM THE CRA SHOULD PAY FOR ALL OF THIS.
12:37:15PM I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA SHOULD PUT --
12:37:21PM SHOULD BOND MONEY FOR THIS.
12:37:22PM IF YOU COULD GO TO THE LAST SLIDE WHERE IT LOOKS AT THE

12:37:24PM MONEY.
12:37:25PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE THAT
12:37:28PM 8.65, THE ENTIRE, THE 8.65 MILLION, THE ADDITIONAL 8.65
12:37:34PM MILLION TO COME FROM DOWNTOWN OVER A SET OF MORE YEARS, AND
12:37:41PM WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
12:37:44PM AND IT TAKE THAT 4.7 MILLION FROM THE UNALLOCATED OR THE
12:37:49PM REALLOCATED BOND FUND THAT WE HAVE JUST SITTING AND PUT THAT
12:37:52PM TOWARD PAYING OFF SOME OF THE WEST RIVERWALK, AND THE REASON
12:37:56PM I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO
12:38:03PM LESSEN THE DEBT WE NEED TO ASK FOR, FOR THAT PROJECT.
12:38:06PM BY TAKING THE MONEY FROM THE CRA, WHICH THIS IS THE CRA THAT
12:38:12PM HAS THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY.
12:38:14PM WE DON'T TECHNICALLY HAVE A LOT IN OUR POCKET RIGHT NOW.
12:38:16PM IF WE EXPAND IT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, I HAVE TALKED TO A
12:38:19PM FEW PEOPLE IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA WHO DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
12:38:22PM IT.
12:38:22PM I DEFINITELY THINK THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS AS A COUNCIL
12:38:25PM MEMBERS MONTH OR I BELIEVE IN TWO WEEKS, THAT THIS IS WHAT I
12:38:30PM THINK IS THE MOST FISCALLY PRUDENT THING TO DO.
12:38:33PM BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IF IT TAKES A PENNY OF
12:38:37PM MONEY FROM CITY COFFERS.
12:38:40PM IF THIS NEEDS TO BE PAID FOR BY THE CRA, WE DON'T HAVE $4
12:38:43PM MILLION TO BOND FOR THIS.
12:38:46PM THE REST OF THE CITY HAS TOO MANY NEEDS.
12:38:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

12:38:49PM NEXT.
12:38:50PM I WANT TO GO IN ORDER HERE.
12:38:51PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:38:52PM I SAW COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:38:55PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:38:56PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:38:57PM I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU RAISED YOUR HAND.
12:38:59PM I APOLOGIZE IF YOU WERE BEFORE THAT.
12:39:01PM COUNCIL, AGAIN, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO END BY 1:00.
12:39:05PM DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OR 1:15 NOW?
12:39:07PM AGAIN, LET'S NOT FILL IT ALL UP.
12:39:10PM HAVE AT IT.
12:39:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:39:13PM THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
12:39:14PM I FIND IT SARCASTICALLY HILARIOUS THAT WITHIN MY PARENTS'
12:39:18PM LIFETIME, BORN IN THE LATE 1950s, THAT WE'RE UNDOING THE
12:39:23PM WRONGS OF THE INTERSTATE AND TRYING TO RECONNECT BLOCKS AND
12:39:27PM GRIDS THAT WERE THERE ORIGINALLY.
12:39:29PM BUT WITH THE BUTCHERING OF THE INTERSTATE, YOU SEE HOW IT'S
12:39:32PM CHOPPED EVERYTHING UP.
12:39:33PM TO THE POINT OF COUNCIL MEMBER -- SORRY, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK
12:39:38PM REGARDING IT LOOKS LIKE A SIX-LANE HIGHWAY, WHEN PEOPLE ARE
12:39:43PM COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE, PSYCHOLOGICALLY THEY ARE ALREADY
12:39:46PM GOING 55, 60 MILES AN HOUR.
12:39:49PM THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SLOW DOWN TO THAT 30-MILE AN HOUR I

12:39:52PM THINK IS WHAT IT IS DOWNTOWN.
12:39:54PM NOT EVERYBODY SLOWS DOWN.
12:39:56PM BECAUSE I TAKE TAMPA STREET EVERY DAY.
12:39:59PM AS PEOPLE ARE COMING OFF THE RAMP, IT IS A GAME.
12:40:03PM I PLAY A GAME OF DON'T GET INTO A CAR ACCIDENT.
12:40:05PM ANOTHER THING, SO THAT IS AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE TO REDUCE
12:40:10PM IT.
12:40:11PM WHEN I CROSS ASHLEY DRIVE, COMING FROM CURTIS HIXON, COMING
12:40:14PM OFF THE RIVERWALK, IT DOESN'T FEEL PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
12:40:17PM I'M LIKE THIS THE WHOLE TIME.
12:40:19PM I HAVE TRUST ISSUES.
12:40:20PM I LOOK BOTH WAYS ON A ONE-WAY STREET.
12:40:24PM ANYWAYS, MY CONCERNS ARE WITH THIS DEPARTMENT OF
12:40:29PM TRANSPORTATION COMMUNITY, THE RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES
12:40:32PM GRANT, IS THAT IN DANGER?
12:40:33PM BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE FIGHTING RIGHT NOW.
12:40:36PM BUT THE WHOLE DOGE THING, IS THIS AFFECTING US?
12:40:39PM HAVE WE BEEN CUT OUT?
12:40:41PM ARE WE IN DANGER OF LOSING THE FUNDING?
12:40:44PM >> AS OF MY LAST UPDATE WITH FHWA, THE UNDERSTANDING WAS
12:40:48PM THAT ALL GRANTS FOR WHICH WE HAVE AN EXECUTED GRANT
12:40:53PM AGREEMENT ARE IN THE CLEAR.
12:40:55PM CERTAINLY CAN'T SPEAK TO ANYTHING THAT THEY MIGHT CHANGE
12:40:58PM THEIR MIND.
12:40:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE SAFE.

12:41:01PM THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
12:41:02PM FINALLY I'LL WRAP UP WITH, IN REGARDS TO THE DOWNTOWN CRA, I
12:41:08PM CALL IT THE WEALTHIEST.
12:41:09PM I KNOW THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO OVER
12:41:12PM THE LIFETIME OF THE CRA, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT
12:41:16PM WE LOOK AT HAVING THE CRA FUND THIS IN ITS COMPLETION BUT
12:41:23PM NOT TAKEN OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
12:41:24PM I THINK IT EASES THE BURDEN ON OUR BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S A LOT
12:41:27PM OF MONEY.
12:41:28PM LIKE I TOLD SOMEBODY YESTERDAY, WHEN YOU BOND A MILLION
12:41:30PM DOLLARS, YOU PAY BACK 1.8, 1.9 MILLION.
12:41:33PM IT IS GOING TO COST US A LOT OF MONEY.
12:41:35PM IF THE CRA CAN HANDLE IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT.
12:41:39PM BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS.
12:41:43PM THANK YOU.
12:41:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CLENDENIN, THEN MIRANDA.
12:41:47PM WE HAVE A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
12:41:52PM JUST IN CASE.
12:41:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER HURTAK ABOUT THE
12:42:00PM HIGH SPEED LOOK OF THAT WITH THREE LANES ON EACH SIDE.
12:42:05PM I WISH IT LOOKED MORE LIKE A BOULEVARD.
12:42:07PM TO ME THIS IS A CHANCE TO DO A GRAND ENTRANCE TO TAMPA AND
12:42:10PM IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
12:42:12PM ALSO, I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST WEEK A LITTLE BIT AND WE
12:42:15PM HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT YET.

12:42:17PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO ANY MORE BIKE LANES THAT AREN'T
12:42:21PM PROTECTED LANES.
12:42:22PM INSTEAD OF MEASURING BIKE LANE MILES, WE SHOULD HAVE
12:42:25PM PROTECTED LANES THAT PEOPLE FEEL SAFE TO RIDE ON.
12:42:28PM I KNOW GOING THROUGH AN INTERSECTION YOU CAN'T DO THAT, BUT
12:42:31PM FROM THE RENDERING THERE, BUT IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS.
12:42:37PM I WAS IN BOSTON LAST WEEK AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF THESE --
12:42:41PM THEY HAVE PROTECTED LANES BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THE GREEN LANES
12:42:45PM LIKE YOU HAD THERE, THE GREEN ZEBRA LANES.
12:42:49PM THEY ARE REALLY DANGEROUS EVERYWHERE.
12:42:51PM SOME PLACES IN EUROPE, SOME PLACES HAVE BETTER PROTECTED
12:42:55PM LANES.
12:42:55PM SOME PLACES PUT IT TO THE RIGHT OF THE PARKING SPACES SO
12:43:00PM IT'S EVEN MORE PROTECTED.
12:43:01PM THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
12:43:05PM WHERE DID THE CITY BEFORE THE REQUEST OF THE CRA, WHERE DID
12:43:10PM THE CITY PLAN ON GETTING THE $8 MILLION FROM?
12:43:13PM >> SO WHEN THE INITIAL GRANT APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED, THE
12:43:18PM ANTICIPATED COST WAS LOWER.
12:43:20PM IT WAS $11 MILLION AT THE TIME, SO GOING TO BE A 50-50 COST
12:43:26PM SHARE BETWEEN FHWA AND THE CITY.
12:43:29PM THAT WAS BEFORE MY INVOLVEMENT.
12:43:31PM I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE FIVE AND A HALF MILLION OR SO
12:43:35PM WAS IDENTIFIED AT THAT POINT.
12:43:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT YEAR WAS THAT?

12:43:39PM >> SO THE AWARD WAS ANNOUNCED IN FEBRUARY OF 2023.
12:43:43PM THE APPLICATION WOULD HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED SOMETIME IN 2022.
12:43:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, SIMILAR TO THE THINKING, MAYBE
12:43:52PM SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT BOARD MEMBER HURTAK SAID, I'M
12:43:58PM OKAY WITH PRESUMING, YOU TALK TO THE CAC ABOUT THIS, TOO,
12:44:04PM BUT I'M OKAY WITH CRA MONEY BEING USED THIS KIND OF THING.
12:44:09PM IN THE PAST USED FOR SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPERS WHICH I'M
12:44:13PM COMPLETELY AGAINST.
12:44:14PM THIS IS THE KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ENABLES, IT IS THE
12:44:16PM INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PRIVATE SECTOR DOESN'T DO THAT THEN
12:44:19PM ENABLES DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT.
12:44:23PM I THINK THAT'S BETTER.
12:44:24PM BUT IF THERE ARE ANY OFFSETS, I THINK THE HIGHEST PRIORITY
12:44:28PM IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW IS FILLING POTHOLES, FIXING ROADS AND
12:44:34PM STORMWATER.
12:44:36PM I'M COMPLETELY AGAINST THE WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT AT THIS
12:44:40PM TIME.
12:44:40PM I'M NOT AGAINST IT LONG TERM, BUT AGAINST IT AT THIS TIME.
12:44:44PM I HOPE WE CAN STOP IT AND REDIRECT THE MONEY TOWARD STOPPING
12:44:47PM PEOPLE'S HOUSES FROM BEING FLOODED.
12:44:49PM I AGREE WITH HER THINKING THAT IF THERE'S ANY BOND MONEY OR
12:44:56PM ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD COVER, THAT WE PICK IT BACK UP
12:44:59PM SOMEWHERE THAT IS A PRIORITY ON THE CITY.
12:45:01PM I THINK WE SHOULD INSIST, WE CAN ALL DEBATE WHERE WE THINK
12:45:05PM THE MONEY SHOULD GO.

12:45:07PM I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY WOULD HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THIS
12:45:09PM AT ALL KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE A $12 MILLION DEFICIT ON IT.
12:45:13PM JUST SOMEHOW BANKING THAT THE CRA WOULD FUND IT.
12:45:18PM THIS CONVERSATION I THINK SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A LONG TIME
12:45:23PM AGO.
12:45:24PM ANYWAY, IF THERE'S SOME OFFSET OF GENERAL FUND MONEY, I
12:45:27PM THINK THE CRA BOARD SHOULD PUT A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT
12:45:31PM DEMANDS THAT THAT -- ANY OF THE OFFSET MONEY BE SPENT A
12:45:35PM SPECIFIC WAY AT THE CITY.
12:45:36PM MY CHOICE WOULD NOT BE THE WEST RIVERWALK.
12:45:43PM WOULD BE ROADS OR STORMWATER.
12:45:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PART OF THIS IS TIMELY BECAUSE OF THE
12:45:49PM F.D.O.T. RECONFIGURATION OF THE INTERSTATE AND WHAT THEY DO
12:45:52PM WITH THE ASHLEY STREET.
12:45:53PM WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY DRIVING THE TIMING.
12:45:57PM >> WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION UNDER THE GRANT AGREEMENT TO GET
12:45:59PM IT DONE TOWARD THE END OF 2029.
12:46:03PM THAT WILL LIKELY DERIVE THE OVERALL TIME FRAME FOR THE
12:46:08PM NEEDED RECONFIGURATION OF THE F.D.O.T. PROJECT.
12:46:12PM I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN AND SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF
12:46:15PM MORE SO THAN I SHOULD.
12:46:18PM I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE WAITING TO SEE EXACTLY HOW WE'RE
12:46:21PM GOING TO HANDLE THIS PROJECT BEFORE THEY MAKE A FINAL
12:46:24PM DECISION ON HOW THEY WOULD HANDLE THE RECONFIGURATION OF
12:46:27PM THAT SCOTT STREET INTERSECTION WITH TAMPA.

12:46:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE BOARD
12:46:33PM MEMBERS UNDERSTOOD.
12:46:34PM IT IS BEYOND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:46:36PM ALSO F.D.O.T. IS INVOLVED BECAUSE OF THE INTERSTATE
12:46:39PM RECONSTRUCTION.
12:46:40PM WHAT COMES FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG?
12:46:41PM IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, THEN THEY'LL RECONFIGURE DIFFERENTLY.
12:46:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHY CAN'T F.D.O.T. PAY MORE OF IT?
12:46:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS NOT F.D.O.T. PROPERTY.
12:46:50PM IT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:46:51PM THEY'LL DO THEIR PORTION.
12:46:52PM THIS IS WHAT WE DUMP ON AND HOW THEY CONFIGURE THEIRS IS
12:46:55PM WHAT WE DUMP ON.
12:46:57PM THAT'S THE CRITICAL DECISION POINT IS FOR THEIR PROJECT, HOW
12:47:02PM THEY EXIT THEIR PROJECT INTO THE CITY AND THEN HOW WE
12:47:05PM ACCOMMODATE THAT EXIT.
12:47:07PM I AGREE HUNDRED PERCENT WITH COUNCILMAN HURTAK, EXCEPT THE
12:47:12PM PROBLEM IS WE HAVE A CASH FLOW ISSUE IN DOWNTOWN CRA AND
12:47:15PM UNDERSTANDING THE TIMING WITH F.D.O.T.
12:47:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN EXPAND IT.
12:47:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN, BUT THE NEED, UNLESS WE BOND
12:47:22PM THROUGH THE CRA.
12:47:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
12:47:26PM I'M SORRY.
12:47:27PM TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, SO WE COULD ASK WHAT THAT WOULD

12:47:32PM LOOK LIKE OVER TIME.
12:47:34PM BASICALLY HOW WE'VE DONE IT WITH OUR REGULAR PROJECTS WHERE
12:47:37PM WE KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A FUND THAT WE FLOAT FOR A
12:47:42PM LITTLE WHILE.
12:47:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE, EXCEPT FOR, MAYBE CEDRIC CAN
12:47:48PM PROVIDE SOME CLARITY.
12:47:48PM AGAIN, ALONG WITH BRANDON ON WHAT THAT TIMELINE HAS TO WORK
12:47:52PM WITH, HOW THE FUNDING, BEING ABLE TO SPREAD IT OUT MATCHES
12:47:55PM OUR ACTUAL CASH.
12:47:59PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:48:00PM CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
12:48:02PM BASED ON THE APPLICATION, THE FUNDING YEARS WERE ROUGHLY '27
12:48:08PM TO '29 FOR THE 8 MILLION.
12:48:10PM WE MAY SEE AN INCREASE OR ANTICIPATE AN INCREASE BASED ON
12:48:14PM SOME OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN DOWNTOWN TO THE
12:48:17PM VARIOUS CULTURAL ARTS INSTITUTIONS AND THE LIKE.
12:48:21PM WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING OR MAKE AN
12:48:23PM ADJUSTMENT TO FY '28 TO MAYBE FIND SOME OTHER DOLLARS TO GET
12:48:30PM TO THE INCREASED AMOUNT.
12:48:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE WANTED AN EXTRA 8 MILLION, HOW WOULD
12:48:36PM THAT AMORTIZE IN THE CASH FLOW WITH DOWNTOWN CRA?
12:48:39PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: IT COULD BE DONE --
12:48:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AFTER '29?
12:48:43PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES OR STARTING FY '28.
12:48:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW MUCH IN 28, 29, 30?

12:48:51PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
12:48:56PM >>COURTNEY ORR: CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
12:48:57PM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 2 MILLION BUDGETED OF THE ORIGINAL 8
12:49:00PM REQUEST.
12:49:01PM 2 MILLION IN 27, 3 IN 28 AND 3 IN 29.
12:49:04PM I WOULD THINK THAT WE IN 28 COULD LIFT THAT 3 MILLION AND 29
12:49:12PM LIFT THAT 3 MILLION.
12:49:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO HOW MUCH?
12:49:17PM >>COURTNEY ORR: CASH FLOW, IN FISCAL YEAR 28, LOOKS LIKE WE
12:49:20PM WOULD HAVE AVAILABLE 12 MILLION.
12:49:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 8 TO 12.
12:49:27PM WOULDN'T REACH THE FULL 16 --
12:49:29PM >>COURTNEY ORR: PROBABLY TO BE PRUDENT WOULDN'T USE THE FULL
12:49:33PM 12, LOOKING EXTRA REVENUE.
12:49:35PM PROBABLY WOULD WANT TO DIVIDE THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
12:49:37PM WHAT OTHER ASKS MIGHT COME FORWARD.
12:49:40PM I WOULDN'T WANT TO USE THAT ENTIRE 12 IN '28 THAT MAY COME
12:49:46PM AVAILABLE.
12:49:46PM RATHER SPREAD SOME TO 28 AND 29.
12:49:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T NEED 12.
12:49:50PM WE NEED 8.65.
12:49:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, PLUS --
12:49:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU'RE RIGHT.
12:49:56PM WE NEED 16.65.
12:49:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXACTLY.

12:49:58PM BRANDON, WHAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE TO MEET WITH
12:50:01PM F.D.O.T.?
12:50:03PM >> WE'RE ANTICIPATING DESIGN TO BE COMPLETE IN LATE 2027
12:50:08PM CALENDAR YEAR AND THEN CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN SHORTLY AFTER
12:50:12PM THAT, THROUGH 2029.
12:50:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MONEY NEEDS WOULD HAVE TO BE FULLY FUNDED
12:50:17PM BY 29 OR 30?
12:50:19PM >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS AN ACCOUNTING MECHANISM THAT
12:50:22PM HELPS TO PUSH THAT NEED BACK, BUT OUR FINAL INVOICE WOULD BE
12:50:26PM IN LATE 2029.
12:50:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHY I WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION
12:50:30PM WITH MR. ROGERO IN TWO WEEKS.
12:50:33PM THAT'S WHY WE PUT THIS -- WE PUT IT ON OUR COUNCIL AGENDA IN
12:50:36PM TWO WEEKS, AND HE WILL BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO
12:50:39PM THAT.
12:50:40PM NOW, WORST-CASE SCENARIO, WE COULD STILL USE THE CIT BOND
12:50:44PM FUNDS AND ONLY DID FOR FOUR MORE MILLION.
12:50:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TENTATIVELY THAT SEEMS TO BE FEASIBLE IF
12:50:56PM -- OUR EMERGENCY -- MAYBE THERE IS A BETTER SOLUTION BUT WE
12:51:01PM STILL HAVE AN EMERGENCY -- 4.7 TO BRIDGE US IF WE HAD TO.
12:51:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, AGAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY AS HARD AS
12:51:09PM WE CAN TO USE THE 4.7 MILLION TO OFFSET BONDING BEFORE IT
12:51:12PM HAPPENS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS ARE TELLING US.
12:51:14PM THEY ARE TELLING US WE DON'T WANT TO BOND.
12:51:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS ALREADY BONDED MONEY?

12:51:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:51:19PM ALREADY THERE.
12:51:20PM SITTING.
12:51:21PM MOVING IT FROM BRIDGES AND THAT COULD PAY OFF SO WE DON'T
12:51:24PM HAVE TO BOND FOR THE WEST RIVERWALK.
12:51:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE GOT 8 MILLION -- ENOUGH
12:51:33PM FUNDS FOR $8 MILLION.
12:51:34PM IF FUNDING AND REVENUE STREAMS COME IN AS ANTICIPATED, WE
12:51:40PM SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IN THAT CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AN
12:51:43PM ADDITIONAL 4 MILLION, MAYBE MORE, AND IF WE DON'T GET THE
12:51:48PM MAYBE MORE, WE COULD USE THE 4.7.
12:51:51PM BUT IF WE DO GET MORE THAN THAT USE THAT 4.7 OFFSET OTHERS.
12:51:55PM SO WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FROM THIS BOARD TODAY TO MOVE
12:51:59PM FORWARD WITH THAT?
12:52:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I KNOW THERE IS A
12:52:07PM DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH.
12:52:08PM MR. MIRANDA --
12:52:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WOULD BE THE NEED -- THE ANSWER YOU
12:52:14PM NEED FROM THIS BOARD TODAY TO DO THAT.
12:52:17PM >>COURTNEY ORR: I WOULD SUGGEST THE APPROVAL OF THE 8
12:52:21PM MILLION WITH STAFF HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE
12:52:24PM BUDGETS FOR FUTURE FISCAL YEARS TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE
12:52:28PM WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS.
12:52:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I LIKE THAT.
12:52:31PM THANK YOU.

12:52:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FIRST OF ALL,
12:52:35PM THE COST OF THE PROJECT AND YOU SAID SO MUCH, IS THAT
12:52:39PM FIGURED THE COST OF INCREASE OF REVENUE OR COST OF MATERIALS
12:52:43PM BETWEEN NOW AND 2029?
12:52:45PM >> YES.
12:52:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU INCLUDED THAT FOUR, FIVE, SIX PERCENT
12:52:48PM MORE THAN?
12:52:50PM >> YES.
12:52:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE ON TARGET OR YOU THINK YOU ARE.
12:52:53PM >> WE THINK WE ARE.
12:52:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
12:52:55PM NUMBER TWO, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU ON THE WAY YOU
12:52:58PM ENTER WITH THREE LANES.
12:53:00PM I'LL TELL YOU WHY. WHEN YOU COME OFF OF ASHLEY NOW, ONLY
12:53:04PM ONE LANE AFTER THE BRIDGE.
12:53:06PM BECOMES A SPLIT TO TAMPA STREET AND SPLIT STRAIGHT TO
12:53:08PM ASHLEY.
12:53:09PM YOU HAVE THREE LANES.
12:53:11PM YOU KNOW WHY?
12:53:11PM BECAUSE PEOPLE GET USE, TURN LEFT, YOU GET IN THE LEFT LANE.
12:53:15PM GO RIGHT, YOU GET IN THE RIGHT LANE.
12:53:17PM IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO STRAIGHT, YOU STAY IN THE STRAIGHT
12:53:20PM LANE.
12:53:20PM IF WE ONLY HAVE TWO LANES, YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT
12:53:24PM REALIZING, THEY'LL GO LEFT, GO RIGHT, YOU'LL CAUSE, I

12:53:27PM BELIEVE AND I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, MORE ACCIDENTS THAN
12:53:30PM IF YOU HAD THREE LANES.
12:53:32PM IT'S NOT ABOUT SPEEDING.
12:53:33PM YOU CAN SPEED IN ONE LANE AS FAST AS YOU CAN GO IN THREE
12:53:36PM LANES, JUST YOU HAVE MORE CARS.
12:53:38PM I LOOK AT IT IN PRINCIPLE AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER AT ALL,
12:53:42PM BUT WHEN YOU DESIGN SOMETHING THAT'S COMING IN AND YOU HAVE
12:53:47PM A LOT OF STREETS, YOU CAN GO LEFT, GO RIGHT, AND THAT WILL
12:53:51PM BE A PROBLEM IF YOU HAVE TWO LANES.
12:53:53PM THAT'S ALL.
12:53:53PM THANK YOU.
12:53:54PM IN MY MIND.
12:53:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:53:57PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK WANTED TO SPEAK.
12:54:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO BOARD MEMBER
12:54:04PM CARLSON'S REMARK ABOUT HOW THIS HAPPENED, HOW THIS GOT SO
12:54:07PM EXPENSIVE SO QUICKLY.
12:54:10PM IT CAME TO US -- BECAUSE I DID THE RESEARCH.
12:54:12PM I COULDN'T FIND THE PAPERWORK AT HAND RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:54:16PM BASICALLY VIK CAME TO US IN AUGUST OF '24 ASKING US TO
12:54:20PM ACCEPT THIS GRANT.
12:54:21PM IT WAS EITHER AUGUST.
12:54:22PM IT WAS SOMETIME IN THE SUMMER.
12:54:24PM BY THAT TIME, THEY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE 22 MILLION, BUT
12:54:28PM THEY DIDN'T TELL US.

12:54:28PM THEY JUST SAID, OH, IT'S GOING TO BE AN $11 MILLION PROJECT.
12:54:32PM I ASKED HIM, WHAT HAPPENED?
12:54:33PM HE SAID, OH, WE JUST DIDN'T SHARE IT AT THE TIME.
12:54:36PM THEN MIRACULOUSLY AFTER WE APPROVED IT IN AUGUST, LIKE IN
12:54:40PM JANUARY, THEY WERE LIKE, OH, NO, IT WILL BE 22.
12:54:44PM NOTHING HAPPENS THAT QUICKLY IN THE CITY.
12:54:46PM THEY HAVE KNOWN THIS WOULD BE A MORE EXPENSIVE PROJECT.
12:54:49PM IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.
12:54:51PM IF WE WANT TO GET THE 5.3 MILLION, I PERSONALLY, I WOULD NOT
12:54:56PM APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
12:54:57PM I WOULDN'T APPROVE MOVING MONEY.
12:54:59PM IF THE DOWNTOWN CRA WANTS TO USE ITS MONEY TO DO THAT,
12:55:02PM THAT'S FINE.
12:55:03PM I THINK THIS IS TOO MUCH MONEY FOR WHAT THE PROJECT WAS, 11
12:55:07PM MILLION WAS FINE WITH ME.
12:55:08PM I THINK 22 IS TOO MUCH.
12:55:10PM BUT, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SETTLE ON IF THIS IS WHAT THE
12:55:13PM COMMUNITY WANTS TO SPEND MONEY ON, I'M FINE WITH IT, BUT HAS
12:55:17PM TO COME FROM THE CRA.
12:55:18PM I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT TAKES MONEY AWAY FROM THE
12:55:21PM GENERAL FUND BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAID, STORMWATER, PEOPLE'S
12:55:24PM HOUSES ARE FLOODING.
12:55:25PM WE HAVE STREET ISSUES.
12:55:27PM AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO ADAMANT THAT I THINK THIS 4.7 MILLION
12:55:31PM SHOULDN'T GO TO THIS PROJECT, BUT SIMPLY THE OLD MONEY

12:55:35PM THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE, IT SHOULD REALLY GO TOWARD PAYING
12:55:38PM OFF SOME DEBT SO WE CAN USE $4.7 MILLION TO DO EXACTLY WHAT
12:55:42PM YOU TALKED ABOUT.
12:55:43PM I JUST TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS
12:55:47PM THAT AGAIN WE WERE TOLD ONLY GOING TO BE 11 MILLION.
12:55:51PM THREE MONTHS LATER, OH, WHOOPS, IT'S DOUBLE THAT.
12:55:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
12:55:56PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BEFORE COUNCILMAN CARLSON GOES, IF I
12:55:59PM MAY, WE HAVE AGAIN, GOING OFF 1:15 FOLKS FOR THE OTHER
12:56:03PM PROJECT IT WILL TAKE TIME.
12:56:05PM IF WE CONTINUE, I THINK WE KNOW WHERE WE'LL GO AS A BOARD.
12:56:10PM I WANT TO URGE PEOPLE TO BRING IT IN FOR A LANDING.
12:56:14PM I THINK WE KNOW WHERE WE'LL GO.
12:56:16PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:56:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: BRANDON, I HOPE YOU CAN HELP US WITH
12:56:21PM TRANSPARENCY.
12:56:21PM I'M HOPEFUL THAT THESE KIND OF ISSUES WILL CHANGE AS WE GO
12:56:26PM FORWARD.
12:56:27PM I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE BRANDING STUFF, TAMPA MOVES.
12:56:31PM ESPECIALLY LIKE ON STORMWATER WHERE WE THOUGHT WE HAD A PLAN
12:56:35PM AND DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN AND ALL THAT.
12:56:38PM ANYWAY, THE OTHER THING, IF WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OR IF WE
12:56:45PM KEEP IT THE SAME, IF THERE IS AN OFFSET, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
12:56:48PM CIT BOND FUNDS, IF WE CREATE A RESOLUTION, I THINK THERE HAS
12:56:52PM TO BE A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT SAYS WHERE THE CITY AGREES WITH

12:56:55PM THE CRA, IF WE PUT THE MONEY IN, THEY'LL USE THE OFFSET
12:56:59PM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE SPECIFY WHERE IT IS.
12:57:01PM WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT IS GOING.
12:57:03PM WE CAN DEBATE WHERE WE THINK IT'S GOING.
12:57:05PM MIGHT THINK IT GOES TO DIFFERENT PLACES.
12:57:07PM BUT I WANT THAT GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL GO SPECIFICALLY
12:57:10PM SOMEWHERE.
12:57:10PM THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS NOT CREATE A SLUSH FUND TO WORK ON A
12:57:14PM PET PROJECT SOMEWHERE.
12:57:17PM THE OTHER THING, I WONDER IF CLIFF IS ON THE PHONE AND CAN
12:57:21PM TELL US, IS THIS CRA BOARD LEGALLY ABLE TO COMMIT UP TO 2030
12:57:27PM FUNDS?
12:57:29PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: IF YOU ARE ASKING ME ABOUT FOR A FUTURE
12:57:32PM BUDGET, WHEN YOU SAY UP TO 2030, HOW DO YOU MEAN TO COMMIT?
12:57:35PM IN WHAT WAY?
12:57:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: LET'S SAY WE COMMITTED TO 16 MILLION OVER
12:57:43PM FIVE YEARS WITH DIFFERENT PAYMENTS OVER EVERY FIVE YEARS.
12:57:49PM THE QUESTION, IS IT GOES BEYOND OUR TERM, SO ARE WE ALLOWED
12:57:53PM TO DO THAT OR NOT?
12:57:55PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: THE ANSWER IS MAYBE, WHICH I KNOW IS A
12:57:57PM GREAT LAWYER ANSWER.
12:57:59PM THE REASON WHY IT IS A MAYBE IS BECAUSE IT'S MORE TO ME
12:58:02PM ABOUT WHETHER THE PROJECT ITSELF IS FUNDABLE WITH CRA FUNDS.
12:58:05PM THERE ARE CRAs THAT USE THEIR TIF MONEY BASED ON A
12:58:11PM COMMITMENT THAT THE PROJECT ITSELF WILL GENERATE THE TIF

12:58:14PM THAT'S GOING TO BE REBATED BACK TO IT OVER TIME AND THEY
12:58:19PM COMMIT FOR YEARS OUT BUT THOSE YEARS ARE LIMITED TO A
12:58:22PM SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF MONEY.
12:58:23PM IF THE TIF DOESN'T GENERATE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, ALL
12:58:27PM THEY GET IS WHAT THEY GENERATE BASED ON WHATEVER PERCENTAGE
12:58:30PM IS AGREED TO.
12:58:31PM I WOULD NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
12:58:33PM THE IDEA THAT YOU COULDN'T COMMIT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF
12:58:36PM TIME IS NOT AN ISSUE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WOULD BE THE CASE IF
12:58:39PM YOU WERE ABLE TO, WHICH NOW IT IS A MARKET ISSUE, ISSUE TIF
12:58:43PM BONDS.
12:58:44PM TIF BONDS GO OUT YEARS IN ADVANCE OF WHEN A PROJECT IS
12:58:48PM COMMITTED TO.
12:58:49PM THE PROBLEM IS THAT JUST THE BOND MARKET SINCE THE STRAND
12:58:52PM CASE IN 2008 HAS NOT BEEN THERE.
12:58:54PM THE IDEA OF COMMITTING FUNDS GOING FORWARD IS NOT THE ISSUE.
12:58:58PM THE FIRST ISSUE IS FUNDABILITY OF THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.
12:59:02PM THE SECOND ISSUE IS WILL THE TIF BE THERE?
12:59:05PM GETTING IT FROM THE PROJECT, GETTING FROM OTHER PROJECTS?
12:59:08PM HAVE IT IN THE RESERVE ACCOUNT, WHERE IS IT COMING FROM?
12:59:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:59:15PM ANYONE ELSE, QUICKLY?
12:59:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO APPROVE FOR THE CAC
12:59:21PM RECOMMENDATION AS WELL THE CRA GRANT REQUEST OF $8 MILLION.
12:59:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY, LET'S MOVE THIS, AND I'LL MAKE

12:59:33PM ANOTHER MOTION, THAT WAY IT IS CLEANER.
12:59:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:59:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:59:39PM NO DISCUSSION IT WOULD APPEAR.
12:59:41PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:59:41PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:59:42PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:59:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CRA
12:59:49PM STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CFO AND ANYONE ELSE THEY NEED TO FIND
12:59:56PM WAYS THAT WE COULD FUND THIS OVER THE NEXT EXTRA YEAR, FOR
1:00:02PM THE EXTRA 8.65 -- OKAY.
1:00:05PM LET ME START AGAIN.
1:00:06PM I'M GOING TO ASK CRA STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CFO AND HIS
1:00:11PM STAFF TO FIND WAYS TO PROGRAM THE REMAINING 8.65 MILLION
1:00:19PM WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CRA BUDGET AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE
1:00:23PM OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO SIX YEARS.
1:00:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
1:00:28PM MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
1:00:29PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:00:30PM ANY DISCUSSION ON IT?
1:00:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:00:33PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:00:35PM OKAY.
1:00:37PM THANK YOU, BOARD.
1:00:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE REWORX HOUSING.

1:00:52PM NEVER MIND, THAT'S WHAT IS NEXT, THE VETERANS AND
1:00:55PM WHEELCHAIR.
1:00:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
1:00:56PM IF I MAY, JUST TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF, JUST 30 SECONDS, ON
1:01:00PM ITEM NUMBER 5, I KNOW WE ALREADY DEALT WITH THAT FOR
1:01:06PM LIEUTENANT BALDOMERO LOPEZ.
1:01:09PM WE'RE PUSHING THAT BECAUSE SEPTEMBER 15 WILL BE 70 YEARS
1:01:11PM AFTER HIS DEATH, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH JUDGE EJ SALCINES
1:01:15PM WHO IS THE GREATEST CHAMPION OF LIEUTENANT LOPEZ OUT THERE.
1:01:15PM FOR NUMBER 7, IF I MAY MOVE THE GAVEL SYMBOLICALLY TO BOARD
1:01:21PM MEMBER HURTAK, AND COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS THIS.
1:01:23PM A REQUEST WAS MADE TO HAVE A REPORT BACK TO US IN JANUARY OF
1:01:29PM 2026.
1:01:32PM I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE TALKED TO COMMANDER BUTTS OVER AT
1:01:35PM AMERICAN LEGION POST 167, I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS.
1:01:38PM I WOULD REQUEST THAT SHE COME AS WELL TO BRIEF US WITH HER
1:01:42PM THOUGHTS ON THIS.
1:01:43PM THE MOTION IS TO HAVE THIS RETURN TO US IN JANUARY OF 2026.
1:01:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: VICE-CHAIR VIERA MOTIONED, SECONDED BY BOARD
1:02:00PM MEMBER MANISCALCO.
1:02:01PM I DID WANT TO SAY THERE IS ANOTHER VETERANS HOUSING PROJECT
1:02:04PM THAT I'M GOING TO BE TOURING WITH CRA STAFF.
1:02:07PM IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED, I KNOW WE CAN'T TOUR TOGETHER, BUT
1:02:10PM I CAN SHARE WHAT I LEARNED AND/OR ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GO
1:02:13PM SEE IT YOURSELVES.

1:02:14PM MOTION AND A SECOND.
1:02:15PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:02:15PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:02:17PM AYES HAVE IT.
1:02:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, BOARD.
1:02:21PM THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
1:02:22PM IF I MAY, WE'RE MOVING ON TO NUMBER 9, THANK YOU TO STAFF
1:02:30PM FOR THAT.
1:02:30PM IT WOULD APPEAR, MR. McCRAY, WE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING
1:02:36PM FORWARD WITH DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT AT WATER WORKS
1:02:39PM PARK, CORRECT?
1:02:41PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT IS CORRECT.
1:02:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT IS THE TIMELINE?
1:02:44PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE AS OF YET.
1:02:46PM WE RECENTLY RECEIVED THE ESTIMATE FROM THE VENDOR FOR THE
1:02:48PM COST OF THE EQUIPMENT AND INSTALLATION.
1:02:51PM CAME IN A LITTLE OVER $135,000.
1:02:54PM WE'LL BE WORKING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AND APPRECIATE
1:02:59PM THEM FACILITATING THAT TO GET THE WORK DONE.
1:03:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: ROUGHLY WHAT DO YOU THINK?
1:03:03PM IF I MOTION FOR THIS TO COME BACK, SIX MONTHS?
1:03:08PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: SIX MONTHS.
1:03:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: WITH REGARDS TO CURTIS HIXON, YOU ARE WAITING
1:03:15PM FOR THE EXPANSION FROM THE MUSEUM OF ART, ROUGHLY HOW LONG
1:03:18PM DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD TAKE?

1:03:21PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON WATER WORKS AT THIS
1:03:23PM PRESENT TIME AND THEN A FEW LAYERS OF DYNAMICS RELATED TO
1:03:27PM THE MUSEUM OF ART AND WORK BEING DONE TO RELOCATE THAT
1:03:30PM EQUIPMENT.
1:03:30PM WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH PARKS AND
1:03:40PM RECREATION.
1:03:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: THESE ARE TWO CENTRALLY LOCATED PARKS AND NO
1:03:44PM DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT THERE I THINK IS
1:03:46PM SYMBOLICALLY JUST AWFUL.
1:03:48PM IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO HAVE THIS RETURN TO US BOTH
1:03:53PM FOR WATER WORKS AS WELL AS CURTIS HIXON.
1:03:56PM I'M NOT EXPECTING THERE TO BE A PLAN OF ACTION OR ANYTHING
1:03:59PM OF THAT NATURE.
1:04:00PM UPDATE FOR POTENTIAL PLAN OF ACTION IN SIX MONTHS IN
1:04:04PM DECEMBER OF 2025.
1:04:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM VICE-CHAIR VIERA.
1:04:09PM SECONDED FROM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:04:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:04:12PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:04:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
1:04:15PM THANK YOU, MR. McCRAY AND ALL OF STAFF.
1:04:19PM NEXT IS THE FINAL ITEM NUMBER 10.
1:04:28PM >> ONE MORE AFTER THAT.
1:04:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: 11.
1:04:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR US.

1:04:33PM HONESTLY, I THINK 10, I THINK IT COULD BE PRETTY SHORT AND
1:04:38PM SWEET HOPEFULLY.
1:04:39PM I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TALK A LOT ABOUT THIS.
1:04:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBERS, IT'S ON US.
1:04:50PM WE'RE ALL ELECTED.
1:04:51PM WE FOUGHT FOR OUR SEATS HERE.
1:04:53PM ALWAYS BELIEVE IN GIVING PEOPLE FULL TIME.
1:04:55PM WE ARE AT 1:05.
1:04:57PM LET'S MAKE A DECISION.
1:04:58PM IF WE GO FORWARD WITH IT, GO FORWARD AND TRY TO END BY 1:30.
1:05:05PM EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT?
1:05:06PM NO ISSUES.
1:05:11PM NUMBER 10.
1:05:11PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: I'LL CALL UPON B. PARKS TO INTRODUCE THE
1:05:16PM APPLICATION.
1:05:18PM >>BELIX PARKS: GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
1:05:21PM B. PARKS, CRA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
1:05:24PM I'M HERE TO PRESENT URBAN REWORX WHICH THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR
1:05:29PM A DEVELOPER SUBSIDY IN THE AMOUNT OF 5 MILLION FOR THEIR
1:05:33PM PROJECT, WHICH IS FOR AFFORDABLE ATTAINABLE HOUSING FOR 80%
1:05:37PM AND BELOW.
1:05:38PM I'M GOING TO HAVE THEM ACTUALLY COME QUICKLY FOR THE
1:05:44PM PRESENTATION THAT'S UP.
1:05:45PM WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE PRESENTATION.
1:06:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR YOUR

1:06:04PM PRESENTATION?
1:06:05PM >> I PREPARED FOR 15 MINUTES.
1:06:07PM I CAN DO MY BEST TO LAND THE AIRCRAFT IN 10 TO 12.
1:06:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: TEN MINUTES.
1:06:15PM IF YOU NEED MORE, WE'LL CONSIDER IT.
1:06:17PM DON'T PRESSURE YOURSELF TOO MUCH.
1:06:26PM JUST A LITTLE BIT.
1:06:27PM >> I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
1:06:28PM MY NAME IS THAD BEREDAY.
1:06:32PM I'M A 25-YEAR RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
1:06:34PM IT'S BEEN A LONG AND EMOTIONAL AFTERNOON.
1:06:36PM I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR THE LEADERSHIP AND ENDURANCE OF THE CRA
1:06:42PM BOARD FOR HANGING WITH US ON THIS FATEFUL DAY.
1:06:47PM WE HAVE A DRAGON OF OUR OWN ON OUR TEAM.
1:06:51PM IT WAS NOT THAT LONG AGO THAT CHAIRWOMAN HENDERSON TOLD US
1:06:59PM THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE THE CHAMPION FOR ITSELF.
1:07:03PM OUR JOB AS THE DEVELOPER IS TO BE ITS ADVOCATE.
1:07:06PM WE'LL TRY OUR BEST TO DO THAT IN THE SHORT TIME FRAME TODAY.
1:07:11PM YOUR LEADERSHIP AS SERVANT LEADERS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAS
1:07:16PM INSPIRED ME.
1:07:17PM AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY, I SPENT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS
1:07:24PM IN LAY MINISTRY SERVICE, AND THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS
1:07:27PM WORKING ON THIS PROJECT TO BRING US TO THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
1:07:30PM I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AND FOR YOUR
1:07:34PM HANGING WITH US.

1:07:35PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, CHAIRWOMAN HENDERSON ALSO SAID, I'M
1:07:41PM SURE WE ALL HEARD THIS, THAT IT WAS THE ROLE OF THE CRA
1:07:45PM BOARD AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS
1:07:49PM AND TO MAKE THE CALLS ABOUT HOW WE DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
1:07:53PM THIS COMMUNITY.
1:07:54PM EVERYONE ELSE IS ADVISORY.
1:07:59PM WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CRA STAFF AND
1:08:01PM APPRECIATE THEIR LEADERSHIP AND THEIR GUIDANCE OVER THE LAST
1:08:04PM TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO GET TO US THIS JUNCTURE.
1:08:07PM WE'VE HAD WONDERFUL SUPPORT FROM CITY OF TAMPA STAFF AS
1:08:10PM WELL.
1:08:10PM APPRECIATE THEIR LEADERSHIP.
1:08:11PM APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP OF THE BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL.
1:08:17PM WE'VE ALSO BEEN DEEPLY ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
1:08:22PM WE'VE ENGAGED WITH COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORHOOD
1:08:24PM ASSOCIATIONS, DOZENS AND DOZENS OF MEETINGS, AND WE'VE
1:08:31PM ENGAGED ON THE STREET LEVEL ONE PERSON AT A TIME WORKING ON
1:08:34PM THE GRASSROOTS TO DELIVER THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT TO
1:08:37PM YOU.
1:08:38PM THE QUESTION THAT I'VE BEEN SEEKING TO ANSWER IN MY JOURNEY
1:08:43PM IS CAN A SMALL FAMILY-RUN DEVELOPER LIKE URBAN REWORX, CAN
1:08:49PM WE DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOO?
1:08:50PM CAN WE BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION?
1:08:52PM I HOPE WE CAN HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH
1:08:56PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TODAY BECAUSE MY

1:09:01PM BELIEF IS THAT WE NOT ONLY NEED TO WIN AND SUCCEED WITH THE
1:09:03PM BIG BOYS AT THE HIGH END AND ALSO AT THE LOW END WITH
1:09:08PM INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS ACTIVATING THEIR ADUs AND DOING WHAT
1:09:12PM THEY CAN TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES, PREVENT GENTRIFICATION,
1:09:15PM PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THEIR GENERATIONAL WEALTH WITH THE
1:09:18PM HOMES THAT THEY OWN, BUT CAN SMALL, MEDIUM SIZED DEVELOPERS
1:09:21PM LIKE URBAN REWORX CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOLUTION BY DELIVERING
1:09:25PM URBAN INFILL PROJECTS IN CRITICAL NODAL AREAS LIKE WE'RE
1:09:30PM GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.
1:09:31PM OUR CORE VALUES -- BUILD LOCAL, BUILD COMMUNITY, AND BUILD
1:09:39PM VALUE ARE WHAT WE REALLY MEAN.
1:09:39PM COMMUNITY IS AT THE HEART AND SOUL OF EVERYTHING WE DO.
1:09:41PM THIS TRANSACTION, THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR INVESTMENT IN
1:09:44PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS REALLY ABOUT NEBRASKA AVENUE.
1:09:47PM IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOPE.
1:09:51PM CAN WE ENVISION TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY A HOME FOR A
1:09:57PM TRANSFORMED NEBRASKA AVENUE?
1:09:58PM CAN THIS BE NOT ONLY A CRITICAL TRANSPORTATION THOROUGHFARE
1:10:02PM THAT WE JUST DRIVE THROUGH BUT A PLACE THAT BRINGS COMMUNITY
1:10:09PM TOGETHER AND DELIVERS AFFORDABLE HOUSING SOLUTIONS AND
1:10:13PM ECONOMIC GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY FOR NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE
1:10:17PM THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY CARE ABOUT.
1:10:19PM I INVITE YOU TO IMAGINE WITH ME A HOPEFUL VISION FOR A
1:10:24PM TRANSFORMED NEBRASKA AVENUE.
1:10:25PM THIS PROJECT, THIS SMALL SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT HAS

1:10:33PM THE POTENTIAL TO BE AN INCREDIBLE CATALYST FOR COMMUNITY AND
1:10:38PM A CATALYST FOR COMMUNITY GROWTH.
1:10:40PM WE ARE A SMALL BUSINESS OURSELF BUT LINK TO EXPAND
1:10:47PM TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS, FOLLOW-ON INVESTMENT AND
1:10:50PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
1:10:50PM THIS WILL BE THE FIRST DOMINO TO FALL IN BEAUTIFYING AND
1:10:55PM TRANSFORMING NEBRASKA AVENUE WE WOULD INVITE YOU TO THINK
1:11:01PM ABOUT THIS PROJECT MUCH MORE THAN THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE
1:11:03PM BUILDING ITSELF AND THE 20 AFFORDABLE HOMES WE'LL DELIVER
1:11:07PM FOR KEY WORKERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
1:11:11PM ACTIVATE THE ENTIRETY OF NEBRASKA AVENUE OR AT LEAST THE
1:11:17PM SMALL STRETCH WE CAN INFLUENCE.
1:11:18PM WE ARE IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA, THE
1:11:21PM LARGEST CRA IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
1:11:22PM BUT OUR SMALL SITE HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR LARGE
1:11:29PM TRANSFORMATION.
1:11:30PM THIS IS OUR CURRENT SITE AND THE CURRENT STATE TODAY.
1:11:32PM A DILAPIDATED, BLIGHTED, UNDERUTILIZED, SELF-SERVICE
1:11:37PM COMMERCIAL CAR WASH THAT HAS EXISTED LARGELY UNCHANGED SINCE
1:11:41PM IT WAS BUILT IN 1965.
1:11:43PM IT WAS OWNED IN THREE GENERATIONS OF THE SUAREZ FAMILY AND
1:11:46PM WE HONOR AND RESPECT THEIR LEGACY.
1:11:48PM BUT WE KNOW THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOMES IN OUR
1:11:54PM COMMUNITY.
1:11:54PM WHAT WE'RE FACING IS WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES HERE

1:11:59PM TODAY.
1:12:00PM WE ALSO KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE SITTING AS THE CRA BOARD TODAY
1:12:04PM THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
1:12:07PM THAT IS THE FINANCING METHOD THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US
1:12:11PM AS A SMALL DEVELOPER TO SEEK AND EXECUTE A PROJECT LIKE
1:12:15PM THIS.
1:12:15PM THIS PARCEL DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE VERY MUCH TO THE TAX BASE
1:12:21PM SOLUTION OF OUR CITY TODAY OR THE CRA.
1:12:25PM EVEN IF WE THINK ABOUT OVER 50 YEARS, REMEMBER THAT
1:12:28PM LONG-TERM TIME FRAME IT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT, YOU SEE THE
1:12:30PM CONTRIBUTION THAT WE WOULD MAKE INFLATION ADJUSTED ABOUT
1:12:33PM $770,000 OVER 50 YEARS.
1:12:35PM NO JOBS.
1:12:39PM THIS IS MR. CC.
1:12:40PM WE INHERITED HIM AS OUR ONE EMPLOYEE.
1:12:43PM 20 YEAR UNHOUSED NEIGHBOR IN OUR COMMUNITY.
1:12:46PM STILL WORKS FOR US TODAY.
1:12:47PM YOU ALL KNOW MIGUEL.
1:12:49PM HE AND I LITERALLY WORK AT THE CAR WASH COLLECTING QUARTERS
1:12:52PM EVERY DAY.
1:12:54PM IT'S AN UNDERUTILIZED SITE WITH VERY LITTLE JOB CREATION AND
1:12:58PM VERY LITTLE COMMUNITY OR ECONOMIC IMPACT.
1:13:01PM BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN YOUR COMMUNITY,
1:13:07PM IN SMALL PARCELS LIKE THIS AND SMALL DEVELOPERS LIKE US, YOU
1:13:11PM DON'T GET ANY RATE OF RETURN.

1:13:14PM YOU GET NOTHING OR MINIMAL.
1:13:17PM IMAGINE INSTEAD WITH ME THE FUTURE OF A TRANSFORMED NEBRASKA
1:13:24PM AVENUE.
1:13:25PM IMAGINE WHAT WE CAN DO BY MAKING WHAT WILL BE THE MOST
1:13:29PM IMPRESSIVE AND IMPORTANT INVESTMENT IN THIS STRETCH OF
1:13:32PM NEBRASKA AVENUE IN DECADES.
1:13:36PM WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO TURN THE CORNER TODAY, RIGHT NOW, WITH
1:13:40PM THIS DECISION.
1:13:42PM AND FROM A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING STANDPOINT, IT'S A GREAT
1:13:47PM DECISION.
1:13:47PM THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT TIF OR CRA FINANCING WAS DESIGNED AND
1:13:53PM INTENDED TO DO.
1:13:54PM OUR UNDERUTILIZED SITE WITH VERY MINIMAL ECONOMIC IMPACT
1:13:59PM OVER THE 50-YEAR TIME FRAME THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT
1:14:02PM WILL NOW CONTRIBUTE ALMOST $7.7 MILLION OVER THAT SAME TIME
1:14:07PM PERIOD.
1:14:07PM AND THAT INCREMENTAL FINANCING BETWEEN THE 700,000 AND THE
1:14:11PM 7.7 IS A $6.9 MILLION BENEFIT PAID STRAIGHT BACK INTO THE
1:14:18PM COMMUNITY.
1:14:18PM I UNDERSTAND MOST OF THOSE DOLLARS GO BACK INTO THE EAST
1:14:21PM TAMPA CRA, CREATING THE POTENTIAL AND BASIS FOR FUTURE
1:14:26PM INVESTMENT SO THAT THIS BOARD AND FUTURE BOARDS CAN REINVEST
1:14:30PM IN DOING OTHER FANTASTIC PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD.
1:14:33PM THAT ALMOST $7 MILLION INCREMENTAL TAX BENEFIT TO COMMUNITY
1:14:42PM AND THE EAST TAMPA CRA, THAT ONE BENEFIT ALONE REPRESENTS

1:14:48PM ALMOST 138% RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT DOLLARS.
1:14:51PM IT GETS EVEN BETTER.
1:14:55PM NOT ONLY THE TAX BENEFIT, THE 20 AFFORDABLE HOMES, SERVICING
1:14:59PM 80% AMI AND BELOW A CRITICAL UNDERSERVED TIER IN OUR
1:15:06PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
1:15:07PM IT GETS EVEN BETTER.
1:15:12PM I HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY OUR RESIDENTS WILL
1:15:14PM SAVE OVER THE 50-YEAR LIFE SPAN OF THIS PROJECT.
1:15:17PM THEY WILL SAVE $16.6 MILLION IN RENTAL SAVINGS.
1:15:23PM THAT'S THE RECIPIENTS, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE WILL SAVE
1:15:26PM OVER THE 50-YEAR LIFE SPAN OF THE PROJECT.
1:15:29PM COMBINE THAT WITH THE INCREMENTAL TAX COMING BACK TO THE
1:15:32PM CRA, $23.5 MILLION TOTAL COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
1:15:35PM A 469% RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT DOLLARS TODAY.
1:15:40PM I HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE JOBS THAT COME FROM OUR
1:15:43PM $6.8 MILLION IN LOCAL CONSTRUCTION SPENDING.
1:15:46PM NOT TO MENTION, OF COURSE, THE SUPPORT FOR ESSENTIAL
1:15:49PM WORKERS.
1:15:50PM LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
1:15:52PM $6.8 MILLION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION SPENDING WILL YIELD 68
1:15:57PM DIRECT CONSTRUCTION JOBS.
1:15:58PM WE WILL HAVE A COMMITMENT TO ACTIVATING MINORITY AND WOMEN
1:16:01PM BUSINESS ENTERPRISES --
1:16:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, YOU'RE GOOD
1:16:06PM TO GO.

1:16:07PM HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU NEED?
1:16:08PM LET'S DO FIVE MINUTES AND THAT'S IT.
1:16:12PM >> 68 DIRECT CONSTRUCTION JOBS, 54 INDIRECT INDUCED JOBS.
1:16:17PM THIS IN ITSELF IS A CATALYST FOR LOCAL AND ECONOMIC GROWTH.
1:16:22PM LET ME MOVE INTO THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF.
1:16:26PM THE VINCENTE YBOR HOUSE WILL BE A 20 UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING
1:16:33PM MIXED USE PROJECT.
1:16:34PM WE HAVE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE.
1:16:37PM WE PUSHED THE STRUCTURE FORWARD TO GET THE CRITICAL
1:16:39PM IMPORTANT STREET ACTIVATION THAT EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE ALONG
1:16:43PM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
1:16:43PM OUR REQUEST IS FOR A $5 MILLION SPECIAL PROJECTS GRANT IN
1:16:47PM THE CONTEXT OF $9.4 MILLION DEVELOPMENT.
1:16:50PM AGAIN, THIS WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT ON THIS
1:16:53PM STRETCH OF NEBRASKA AVENUE, SO LONG NEGLECTED, FORGOTTEN AND
1:16:58PM JUST DRIVEN THROUGH IN DECADES.
1:17:00PM HERE IS THE ONLY MAP I'LL SHOW YOU OF THE SITE.
1:17:06PM YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE LOCATED.
1:17:07PM WE ARE LITERALLY THE LAST PARCEL LEFT INSIDE THE HISTORIC
1:17:12PM BOUNDARY OF THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION HISTORIC DISTRICT,
1:17:15PM WHICH IS INTERESTING.
1:17:16PM I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
1:17:18PM MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE AT THIS CRITICAL NODE, THAT'S
1:17:21PM NEBRASKA AVENUE ALONG THE FRONTAGE, EAST 21st AVENUE,
1:17:25PM GATEWAY TO EAST TAMPA JUST TO THE NORTH OF US.

1:17:28PM BECOMES FLORIBRASKA AS YOU CROSS NEBRASKA, BUT THIS NODE IS
1:17:32PM A CRITICAL CORNER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND A CRITICAL BUT
1:17:36PM SMALL PORTION OF THE OVERALL EAST TAMPA CRA.
1:17:41PM MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE CONNECT TO A VITAL, ACTIVE, AND
1:17:45PM FUNCTIONING TRANSPORTATION GROUP.
1:17:48PM THANK YOU TO OUR FRIENDS AT HART.
1:17:49PM WE LINK TO VIABLE WORKING TRANSPORTATION JUST 400 FEET AWAY
1:17:53PM FROM BUS STOPS IN EITHER DIRECTION, AND WE'LL INVEST IN
1:17:57PM ALTERNATIVE AND MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION AS WELL WHICH
1:17:59PM HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THE TIME TO COME BACK TO.
1:18:01PM WE ARE IN A VERY IMPORTANT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A VERY
1:18:06PM IMPORTANT HISTORIC CONNECTION ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE
1:18:09PM MOUNT SINAI AME CHURCH AND WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE INVESTING
1:18:15PM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:18:17PM WE WENT THROUGH AND OBTAINED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL AFTER FULL
1:18:21PM PUBLIC HEARING AT THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
1:18:23PM WE WORKED WITH OUR COMMUNITY, ORIGINALLY PROPOSING A
1:18:26PM SLIGHTLY MORE INTENSE AND LARGER PROJECT WITH FOUR STORIES
1:18:30PM AND 29 UNITS.
1:18:31PM BUT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS THEY FELT THAT WAS
1:18:35PM TOO INTENSE AGAINST THE 20 PARKING SPACES THAT WE COULD
1:18:38PM DELIVER.
1:18:39PM SO WE ELIMINATED ONE STORY AND HAVE THE PROJECT WE PRESENT
1:18:43PM TO YOU TODAY, THREE STORIES, 20 UNITS AGAINST OUR 20 PARKING
1:18:48PM SPACES.

1:18:49PM BASED ON THE COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK, WE BELIEVE WE MET THE
1:18:52PM CITY OF TAMPA'S REQUEST THAT WE MAXIMIZE DENSITY ON OUR
1:18:57PM PARCEL.
1:18:57PM DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE TIME TO GET INTO THIS TODAY, BUT I
1:19:03PM WENT BACK AND REWATCHED THE JANUARY HEARING WHERE THIS BOARD
1:19:07PM APPROVED THE SUBSIDY MATRIX.
1:19:10PM AND THAT MATRIX WAS APPROVED AFTER CONSULTATION BETWEEN CRA
1:19:15PM STAFF AND CITY OF TAMPA LEADERSHIP.
1:19:19PM AND IT IS BASED ON VERY IMPORTANT ANALYSIS OF WHAT IT COSTS
1:19:24PM TO BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS
1:19:29PM EXPENSIVE.
1:19:30PM YOU CAN SEE THE IMPORTANT BASIS ON WHICH THIS MATRIX WAS
1:19:32PM PROPOSED AND APPROVED BY THIS BOARD IN JANUARY.
1:19:36PM OUR REQUEST IS 100% IN LINE WITH THE FUNDING MATRIX AT
1:19:41PM $250,000 PER UNIT AT 80% AMI.
1:19:45PM OF COURSE, IF WE CAN GO DOWN BELOW, THEORETICALLY SHOULD BE
1:19:49PM MORE FUNDING AVAILABLE, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT.
1:19:52PM IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OUR PROJECT
1:19:56PM FALLS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES, THIS IS THE VERY NEXT SLIDE
1:19:59PM FROM THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
1:20:01PM YOU CAN SEE THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS OFFERED AS WITHIN THE CRA
1:20:03PM GUIDELINES, 20 RENTAL UNITS, HUNDRED PERCENT UNITS
1:20:07PM AFFORDABLE AT 80% AMI.
1:20:09PM AFFORDABILITY PERIOD 50 YEARS, THAT'S US.
1:20:13PM MAYBE MATH ERA.

1:20:14PM SHOULD BE THE $250,000 PER UNIT THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
1:20:19PM THIS SLIDE IS ALSO IMPORTANT IN THE BOARD DELIBERATION.
1:20:23PM VERY GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
1:20:25PM REQUEST FOR 20% WIGGLE ROOM WAS ROUNDLY REJECTED.
1:20:29PM THE BOARD AFFIRMED AND APPROVED ITS ABILITY AND JURISDICTION
1:20:34PM TO MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS I MENTIONED EARLIER.
1:20:37PM WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE BOARD SET THE EXPECTATIONS
1:20:42PM FOR US IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
1:20:43PM WE'VE BEEN ACTING IN RELIANCE ON THAT FOR THE LAST SIX
1:20:47PM MONTHS.
1:20:47PM IN FACT, WE WERE WAITING AND WORKING WITH CRA STAFF FOR
1:20:50PM PROBABLY AT LEAST SIX MONTHS BEFORE THAT.
1:20:53PM AND IT'S BEEN A TWO AND A HALF YEAR JOURNEY AS I SAID TRYING
1:20:56PM TO FIGURE OUT CAN WE DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TOO, AND HOW DO
1:20:59PM WE DO IT.
1:21:00PM LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT WHY THIS INVESTMENT MATTERS.
1:21:03PM OBVIOUSLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT REQUIRES A
1:21:09PM PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
1:21:11PM WE HAVE ENDEAVORED TO BE COLLABORATIVE PARTNERS.
1:21:13PM AND THIS IS VERY APPROPRIATE USE OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
1:21:18PM YOUR $250,000 PER UNIT INVESTMENT WILL YIELD YOU $344,000 IN
1:21:24PM INCREMENTAL RETURNS.
1:21:26PM THIS IS 50 YEAR DEED RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
1:21:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS TO FINISH IT UP.
1:21:35PM >> THIS IS A CATALYST INVESTMENT AS I SAID THAT WILL SUPPORT

1:21:38PM ESSENTIAL WORKERS, LINKS TO TRANSPORTATION AND IS AN URBAN
1:21:41PM INFILL PROJECT.
1:21:42PM YOU CAN SEE THE RETURNS THAT WE MENTIONED HERE PREVIOUSLY.
1:21:47PM THE INCREDIBLE RATES OF RETURN, 139% JUST ON THE TAXES.
1:21:51PM 469% ON TOTAL COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
1:21:55PM THIS IS, AS YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH THE
1:21:57PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE EAST TAMPA STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
1:22:01PM BENEFITS LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH WE CARE ABOUT DEEPLY.
1:22:04PM AND WE'RE SHOVEL READY.
1:22:05PM THIS REQUEST FOR FULL FUNDING WILL ALLOW US TO GET THIS
1:22:09PM PROJECT DONE NOW.
1:22:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
1:22:12PM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
1:22:13PM I'VE BEEN THERE WHEN YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY AND LIMITED
1:22:17PM TIME, COURT, IT'S AWFUL.
1:22:19PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
1:22:19PM WE APPRECIATE YOUR FRUSTRATION WITH THAT.
1:22:22PM WE'LL GO THROUGH BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, CLENDENIN, MANISCALCO,
1:22:27PM MIRANDA.
1:22:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GOOD.
1:22:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS I
1:22:37PM DID A RIDE-ALONG WITH TAMPA PD TUESDAY NIGHT AND ROAD WITH
1:22:41PM OFFICER AARON AND CANNOT REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME.
1:22:45PM HE WAS WONDERFUL.
1:22:46PM WE ENDED UP RIGHT NEXT TO THE YELLOW BRICK CHURCH.

1:22:50PM WE STOPPED IN THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS A TRAILER THEY HADN'T
1:22:59PM SEEN BEFORE.
1:23:00PM PUNCHED IN THE NUMBER TO SEE WHO IT WAS.
1:23:02PM TURNS OUT IT WAS THE NEW OWNERS.
1:23:03PM OH, DIDN'T KNOW THIS CHANGED OWNERSHIP.
1:23:08PM ALBERT WHO CAME UP AND SPOKE ABOUT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
1:23:10PM EARLIER, HE LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.
1:23:13PM HE WAS ON THE FRONT PORCH.
1:23:15PM STOPPED AND TALKED TO HIM.
1:23:16PM YEAH, IT'S SOLD.
1:23:17PM THE GUY IS HERE EVERY DAY WORKING ON CLEANING IT UP.
1:23:20PM WOW, WE LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY AS CITY OF TAMPA.
1:23:23PM I HAD MR. DRUMGO LOOK AT POSSIBLY PURCHASING THAT.
1:23:26PM HAPPILY IT IS A LOCAL PERSON WHO HAS PURCHASED IT AND
1:23:30PM ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON IT.
1:23:31PM THIS CORNER AND FROM WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT STANDING ON THE
1:23:37PM CORNER, HEY, NO LONGER ARE PEOPLE HANGING OUT IN FRONT OF
1:23:40PM THAT CHURCH.
1:23:41PM THAT WAS A HUGE ISSUE FOR A WHILE.
1:23:42PM DRUG SELLING GOING ON THERE.
1:23:44PM HE GAVE US THE FULL RUNDOWN OF EXACTLY WHAT HAD BEEN
1:23:48PM HAPPENING ON THAT BLOCK.
1:23:49PM SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, MIMI MARTINEZ EARLIER TODAY, I TEND
1:23:56PM TO AGREE WITH HER.
1:23:57PM I THINK THIS IS THE ONE CATALYST PROJECT THAT WILL START THE

1:24:01PM OTHER PROJECTS.
1:24:02PM BECAUSE OF THAT, I SUPPORT THIS.
1:24:06PM I COULD SPEAK LONGER, BUT WE'RE ON A TIME LIMIT.
1:24:10PM I DID WANT TO SAY I DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE TRANSFORMATIONAL
1:24:14PM PROJECT FOR THIS PART OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
1:24:16PM WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE CHANGE.
1:24:19PM THERE ARE FEWER PEOPLE ON STREET CORNERS.
1:24:22PM THE DRUG DEALING IS NOT AS MUCH IN THAT AREA.
1:24:26PM HOUSES ARE BEING FIXED UP ALONG THE STREET.
1:24:28PM I DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE NEXT CATALYST PROJECT WE NEED TO
1:24:31PM ENCOURAGE AND MAKE THIS COMMUNITY EVEN BRIGHTER.
1:24:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
1:24:37PM WE APPRECIATE THAT.
1:24:38PM NEXT IS BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
1:24:41PM MIRANDA.
1:24:41PM IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THREE MINUTE TIME LIMITS?
1:24:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T DISAGREE THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT
1:24:53PM FOR THE CORNER.
1:24:53PM WHAT I DISAGREE WITH IS TAKING MONEY FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
1:24:57PM FROM POOR PEOPLE AND SUBSIDIZING A DEVELOPER.
1:25:00PM AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, WORST THING WE COULD DO FROM CRA
1:25:04PM IS SUBSIDIZE A DEVELOPER.
1:25:05PM YOU'RE BASICALLY ASKING, WITH YOUR FULL REQUEST, YOU'RE
1:25:08PM ASKING US TO PAY FOR DAMN NEAR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
1:25:11PM >> CONSTRUCTION.

1:25:12PM 92% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST.
1:25:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAN, SIGN ME UP FOR THAT DEAL.
1:25:18PM YOU TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY BEING DILAPIDATED, HOW LONG HAVE
1:25:21PM YOU OWNED THE PROPERTY?
1:25:23PM >> PURCHASED IT IN NOVEMBER OF '23 AND MADE SUBSTANTIAL
1:25:26PM IMPROVEMENTS.
1:25:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S YOUR PROPERTY.
1:25:28PM AGAIN, SIGN ME UP FOR THAT DEAL.
1:25:32PM ANYTIME THE CITY WANTS TO GIVE ME MONEY AND START A BUSINESS
1:25:34PM FOR ME, I'M ON BOARD.
1:25:36PM GIVE ME THE MONEY AND I'LL DO THIS ALL DAY LONG.
1:25:39PM I'LL START ANOTHER CAREER.
1:25:40PM THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT BILL CARLSON HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
1:25:43PM YOU'RE ASKING TOO MUCH MONEY OF A POOR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE
1:25:47PM EVERY DOLLAR YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS COMING FROM TAXPAYERS IN
1:25:50PM EAST TAMPA.
1:25:50PM IT'S COMING FROM TAXPAYERS IN EAST TAMPA.
1:25:53PM NOT COMING FROM CHANNELSIDE.
1:25:55PM COMING FROM TAXPAYERS IN EAST TAMPA.
1:25:57PM IT'S JUST TOO MUCH MONEY.
1:25:58PM THIS PROJECT, I LOOKED AT THIS, COST OF CONSTRUCTION IS WHAT
1:26:03PM AROUND $300 A SQUARE FOOT PROBABLY FOR THE BUILDINGS, WHAT
1:26:07PM YOU PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
1:26:08PM >> I THINK MORE LIKE JUST UNDER 200.
1:26:16PM >> COST OF ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION PLUS WHATEVER.

1:26:18PM RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, BUILD A MULTISTORY, $300 A SQUARE FOOT.
1:26:25PM AMORTIZE THAT OUT, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK OUT.
1:26:27PM IF YOU WANTED TO COME IN WITH MORE MODEST, ALSO, WE'RE IN A
1:26:31PM RENT CORRECTION PERIOD.
1:26:33PM 80%, THAT GAP BETWEEN WHAT MARKET AND 80% IS GETTING
1:26:37PM NARROWER AND NARROWER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
1:26:40PM GRANTED IN FIVE YEARS IT WILL CHANGE AND YOU'LL LOCK IN FOR
1:26:43PM YOUR PERIOD OF TIME.
1:26:44PM RIGHT NOW, THAT WEDGE, IF YOU WERE COMING IN AT 30% OR 50%
1:26:49PM AMI, I MAY BE MORE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT.
1:26:52PM 80% AMI, THAT AMOUNT OF SUBSIDY FROM POOR PEOPLE IN EAST
1:26:56PM TAMPA, THAT IS A NONSTARTER.
1:26:58PM >> WE'RE VERY OPEN TO DOING LOWER AMI.
1:27:02PM 50%, MAYBE 30%.
1:27:03PM WE HAVE TWO ADA ACCESSIBLE UNITS WE'RE DESIGNING AT THE
1:27:06PM GROUND LEVEL.
1:27:08PM WE WOULD WELCOME THAT.
1:27:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD BE WILLING TO CONTINUE THIS TO
1:27:11PM DISCUSS THAT AND COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL.
1:27:14PM IT'S WAY TOO MUCH FOR TOO LITTLE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
1:27:17PM AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING MONEY FROM THE POOREST NEIGHBORHOOD IN
1:27:20PM TAMPA.
1:27:20PM THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST BARELY GETTING BY ON THEIR
1:27:24PM OWN OR GETTING SUBSIDIES THEMSELVES AND THESE TAXES AND
1:27:28PM THESE HOUSES AND GIVING THAT TO A DEVELOPER IS TOO MUCH.

1:27:32PM IT'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH.
1:27:36PM >> I HEAR YOU.
1:27:37PM I THINK REASONABLE MINDS CAN DISAGREE ON THE PROPER METHODS
1:27:40PM TO DELIVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE COMMUNITY.
1:27:42PM NEW CONSTRUCTION AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT A SMALL SCALE IS
1:27:46PM EXPENSIVE.
1:27:46PM WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
1:27:47PM IT COSTS ABOUT $300,000 A UNIT TO BUILD ANYTHING IN THIS
1:27:53PM MARKET.
1:27:53PM SO OUR REQUEST AT THE MATRIX LEVEL OF $250,000 PER UNIT IS
1:27:58PM LESS THAN THAT.
1:28:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE ASKING THE POOR PEOPLE -- YOU'RE
1:28:03PM ASKING POOR PEOPLE TO GIVE YOU $250,000 FOR A $300,000 UNIT.
1:28:08PM ONLY OUT OF POCKET IS 50.
1:28:10PM THAT'S JUST CRAZY.
1:28:11PM HOW MUCH DID WE PAY PER UNIT FOR FUN LAND?
1:28:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S FOR MR. McCRAY.
1:28:20PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD AFTERNOON, CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA
1:28:23PM DIRECTOR.
1:28:23PM ROUND ABOUT IT WAS $33,800 PER UNIT FOR THE FINANCING.
1:28:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT WHAT WE
1:28:33PM PASSED.
1:28:34PM I SPOKE HEAVILY AGAINST THAT, TOO.
1:28:36PM WE REALLY EMPHASIZED THIS WAS A PIE IN THE SKY MAX AND
1:28:40PM DIDN'T ANTICIPATE ANYBODY COMING IN REALLY UNLESS IT WAS

1:28:42PM SOMETHING -- AGAIN, I THINK I TOLD YOU FIRST MEETING, I
1:28:45PM WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO BE WITH YOU ON THIS IF YOU HAD SITE
1:28:49PM CONTROL OVER THE ENTIRE BLOCK AND A LOT MORE RETAIL AND
1:28:52PM REALLY TRANSFORMATIONAL.
1:28:53PM I RAN OUT OF TIME.
1:28:54PM YEAH, I THINK YOU SHOULD ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE AND COME BACK
1:28:57PM WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL.
1:28:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
1:28:59PM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:29:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MANY YEARS AGO, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS
1:29:02PM UPPER MIDDLE CLASS.
1:29:04PM WHEN YOU TURN LEFT 21st AND NEBRASKA, GARDEN THEATER
1:29:07PM THERE.
1:29:08PM THEN NORTH ON NEBRASKA AND YOU HAD HOMES THAT WERE REALLY
1:29:12PM TWO STORY, BIG, BEAUTIFUL HOMES ON 25th AND NEBRASKA OR
1:29:15PM 26th.
1:29:16PM 24th AND NEBRASKA THROUGH THERE.
1:29:18PM ONE WAS VALDES BEAUTY SALON PEOPLE, BEAUTY PARLORS AND A
1:29:24PM BEAUTY SCHOOL TO TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO COMB HAIR AND MAKE
1:29:27PM HAIR.
1:29:27PM WOMEN, MEN.
1:29:29PM AND THROUGH THE LIFE CYCLE OF DEATH, THEY DIED.
1:29:33PM AND THEIR KIDS, THEY WANT TO LIVE THERE.
1:29:39PM THEN RELIGIOUS PEOPLE CAME IN AND DID SOME WORK THERE, WAY
1:29:43PM BACK IN THE '70s, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

1:29:45PM NOW IT'S LIKE DESERTED IN A WAY.
1:29:52PM USED TO BE A BEAUTIFUL AREA BEFORE LAKE AVENUE AND NEBRASKA.
1:29:57PM THEN WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
1:29:59PM ALL OF A SUDDEN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CAME BACK UP.
1:30:02PM ANYTHING DOWN GOES UP.
1:30:04PM LISTENING TO BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND COUNCIL MEMBER
1:30:06PM CLENDENIN, THERE IS A HAPPY MEDIUM SOMEWHERE AND I DON'T
1:30:10PM KNOW WHERE IT IS AT.
1:30:11PM I AGREE WITH BOTH OF THEM.
1:30:13PM SOMEWHERE ALONG THESE TWO IS -- BUT I'M MORE INTO BUILDING
1:30:17PM HOUSES FOR PEOPLE TO OWN BECAUSE THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO OWN
1:30:21PM IF THEY RENT.
1:30:22PM I LIKE TO PUT IT MORE INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO SELL FOR
1:30:26PM THEM TO LIVE THAN TO RENT.
1:30:28PM THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO OWN ANYTHING.
1:30:30PM THEY'LL NEVER HAVE NOTHING IN THE BANK.
1:30:32PM NEVER HAVE NOTHING THAT THEY CAN GIVE TO HEIRS AND MOVE
1:30:36PM FORWARD.
1:30:36PM I LIKE UPWARD MOBILITY.
1:30:38PM I'M NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT BUT LIKE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON
1:30:41PM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BUY.
1:30:45PM >> WE'RE VERY OPEN TO THE HOME OWNERSHIP MODEL AS WELL.
1:30:48PM WE ASKED CITY OF TAMPA LEADERSHIP AT THE STAFF LEVEL, THEY
1:30:52PM ARE NO LONGER WITH THE CITY, WHETHER WE COULD BUILD A HOME
1:30:55PM OWNERSHIP MODEL AND THEY ENCOURAGED US TO BUILD THE PRODUCT

1:30:59PM THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TODAY.
1:31:00PM WHEN THEY SUGGESTED BUILD 80% AMI, I HAD TO ASK WHAT IS AN
1:31:06PM AMI.
1:31:06PM WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT CAN WE BE PART OF THE
1:31:12PM SOLUTION AND HOW DO WE MAKE OUR CONTRIBUTION TO DELIVER
1:31:15PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS TO THE COMMUNITY?
1:31:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- GIVE A CHANCE TO OWN SOMETHING SO
1:31:21PM UPWARD MOBILITY.
1:31:24PM SURE IT WILL BE NICE AND NEW.
1:31:27PM I AGREE WITH THAT.
1:31:28PM IT IS GORGEOUS.
1:31:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:31:36PM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
1:31:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, I AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER
1:31:40PM MIRANDA ON THE OWNERSHIP THING.
1:31:43PM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN OUR PLANNING RETREAT A YEAR OR TWO
1:31:46PM AGO.
1:31:47PM I THINK WE NEED TO COME BACK TO IT AND FIGURE OUT
1:31:50PM STRATEGICALLY WHAT AMOUNT OF THE HOUSING BUDGET WILL
1:31:53PM ALLOCATE TOWARD EACH ONE.
1:31:54PM I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A BIGGER PERCENTAGE INTO HOME
1:31:57PM OWNERSHIP.
1:31:58PM THAT I THINK IS PART OF THE STRATEGY FOR THE FUTURE.
1:32:00PM ON FUN LAND, I ASKED MS. KOPESKY TO HELP US GO THROUGH THE
1:32:06PM NUMBERS AND REALLY ANALYZE WHETHER THAT $35,000 NUMBER IS

1:32:09PM RIGHT.
1:32:09PM IT SOUNDS LOW TO ME COMPARED TO OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
1:32:13PM HAPPENING.
1:32:14PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACCURATE.
1:32:16PM THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS OF USING DIFFERENT DENOMINATORS TO
1:32:19PM GET DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
1:32:20PM THAD, MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'VE KNOWN HIM A LONG TIME, HE'S NOT
1:32:27PM A DEVELOPER.
1:32:28PM HE'S SOMEONE WHO SPENT THE LAST FEW YEARS VOLUNTEERING IN
1:32:31PM THE COMMUNITY, DONATING TO THE COMMUNITY, WORKING WITH
1:32:34PM GROUPS LIKE PORTICO DOWNTOWN THAT HELPS HOMELESS PEOPLE,
1:32:39PM LOVE, INC., THAT'S RESCUED FRIENDS OF MINE OFF THE STREETS.
1:32:43PM PEOPLE I KNOW OFF THE STREETS.
1:32:45PM AND MANY OTHER SERVICES.
1:32:46PM AS I UNDERSTAND, HE SUDDENLY PIVOTING TO THIS INDUSTRY, HE
1:32:51PM SAW PEOPLE ON THE STREETS AND HE SAID I MIGHT HAVE THE
1:32:54PM RESOURCES TO PULL THIS TOGETHER.
1:32:56PM HE USED HIS LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND ACCESS TO FUNDING TO TRY
1:32:59PM TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, NO TO THE MAKE MONEY.
1:33:03PM BEEN WORKING ON THIS TWO YEARS, YOU'LL PROBABLY LOSE MONEY
1:33:06PM ON IT.
1:33:07PM THE PROBLEM WITH THE CITY IN THE PAST OR THE CRA IN THE PAST
1:33:10PM IS BIG CHUNKS OF MONEY WENT TO DEVELOPERS.
1:33:13PM DEVELOPERS WOULD COME IN AND SAY NEED 9 MILLION, NEED 12
1:33:16PM MILLION AND NOTHING WAS ATTACHED TO IT OR BILL GATES WANTS A

1:33:20PM HUNDRED MILLION.
1:33:21PM SO THAT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT I'M AGAINST.
1:33:25PM THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE CHART, AND STAFF PUT THAT TOGETHER
1:33:30PM WITH A LOT OF RESEARCH.
1:33:33PM BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE CHART WAS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE
1:33:36PM SUBSIDIZING A DEVELOPER.
1:33:38PM WE'RE BUYING CERTAIN RENT AMOUNT FOR CERTAIN AMI FOR 50
1:33:44PM YEARS.
1:33:45PM THE MONEY THAT'S GOING IN HERE IS NOT SUBSIDIZING YOUR
1:33:49PM CONSTRUCTION.
1:33:50PM IT'S SUBSIDIZING THE RENT OVER 50 YEARS BECAUSE THE REAL
1:33:53PM COST OF IT IS -- THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION IS SMALL.
1:33:56PM THE COST OF MAINTENANCE, YOUR MARGINAL COSTS ARE GOING TO BE
1:34:00PM HIGH OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS.
1:34:02PM YOU HAVE TO PROJECT NOW WHAT THE COSTS IN THE FUTURE WOULD
1:34:04PM BE AND THIS WILL HELP US SUBSIDIZE.
1:34:07PM WAS IT 5500 PER UNIT PER YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
1:34:11PM IT'S CHEAP TO GET SOMEBODY IN THAT KIND OF PROPERTY.
1:34:15PM WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PROVE THAT WE CAN HELP SMALL
1:34:18PM DEVELOPERS, WHY DO THE BIG DEVELOPERS GET EVERYTHING?
1:34:20PM WHY DO THEY ALL GET ALL THE MONEY AND NO STRINGS ATTACHED?
1:34:24PM THIS IS BUYING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS.
1:34:26PM THE LAST QUESTION I'LL ASK, YOU SAID OFF-LINE AND PUBLICLY
1:34:30PM YOU COULD DO 30, 50 PERCENT AMI.
1:34:32PM CAN WE AT LEAST PUT A CONTINGENCY IN THIS THAT IF YOU CAN

1:34:36PM GET FUNDING FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR SOME OTHER GROUP
1:34:38PM THAT YOU WILL TRY TO PUT IN A FEW 50% OR 30% AMI?
1:34:44PM >> I'LL CONTINUE MY EFFORTS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE
1:34:47PM RIGHT WAY, SO ABSOLUTELY, WE WILL WORK TO OBTAIN THE
1:34:51PM VOUCHERS NEEDED TO DELIVER THE BEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING
1:34:54PM PRODUCT THAT WE CAN MUSTER.
1:34:56PM NO PROBLEM.
1:34:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
1:34:58PM I'LL GIVE MY THOUGHTS AFTERWARDS.
1:35:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SAY.
1:35:04PM I RESPECT BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN'S POSITION BECAUSE
1:35:07PM GENERALLY WE TEND TO AGREE ON THESE THINGS.
1:35:11PM I MAY HAVE AGREED WITH YOU IF I HADN'T STOOD IN THAT SPOT
1:35:16PM AND WATCHED AND DRIVEN -- I MEAN, IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE
1:35:20PM TUESDAY NIGHT THAT THAT IS WHERE WE WERE.
1:35:23PM I DIDN'T EVEN ASK.
1:35:25PM THAT'S JUST WHERE WE ENDED UP.
1:35:28PM AND TO SEE HOW CLOSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY IS TO MOVING
1:35:40PM FORWARD.
1:35:40PM SO I WOULDN'T SAY THAT I WOULD SUPPORT $250,000 FOR EVERY
1:35:46PM PROJECT THAT COMES FORWARD, BUT I THINK AS WAS MENTIONED
1:35:49PM EARLIER, THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS THAT ARE SORT OF WAITING
1:35:52PM IN THAT AREA, AND THEY JUST AREN'T GOING.
1:35:56PM SO I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE ONE THAT MOVES IT.
1:35:58PM I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT TONIGHT -- OR THIS AFTERNOON, MY

1:36:02PM LAST THING I'LL DO TODAY IS A MOTION TO HELP TEAR DOWN SOME
1:36:08PM OF THE STUFF IN BORRELL PARK TO GET THAT MORE OPEN BECAUSE
1:36:11PM THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAW.
1:36:13PM THERE IS A BRAND-NEW HEAD START FACILITY ABOUT TO OPEN UP
1:36:18PM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM BORRELL PARK.
1:36:20PM CHANGES ARE COMING.
1:36:21PM THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT THIS.
1:36:23PM I DON'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT IT FOR EVERYTHING.
1:36:25PM NOW KNOWING THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT 30 TO 50% AMI POSSIBLY, IT
1:36:30PM JUST ENCOURAGES -- YEAH, INTENSIFIES MY SUPPORT IF WE COULD
1:36:38PM BRING IT DOWN FURTHER.
1:36:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO
1:36:43PM SPEAK SECOND ROUND?
1:36:44PM AND THEN CLENDENIN.
1:36:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:36:47PM REAL QUICK.
1:36:48PM THE WORD CATALYST AND COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK JUST MENTIONED
1:36:52PM IT, THIS COULD BE THE PROJECT THAT COULD KICK OFF THINGS IN
1:36:55PM THE FUTURE.
1:36:56PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT WHAT USED TO BE THERE.
1:36:58PM I KNOW A GENTLEMAN WHO IS 101 YEARS OLD.
1:37:02PM HIS LITTLE BROTHER WHO PASSED AWAY TOLD ME, IN THE 1930s,
1:37:07PM WE WOULD SIT ON NEBRASKA AVENUE ON THE CURBS TO LOOK AT ALL
1:37:10PM THE NICE CARS DRIVING BY OR TO SEE ALL THE BEAUTIFUL HOUSES.
1:37:15PM SOME OF THOSE HOUSES ARE STILL THERE.

1:37:16PM NEBRASKA AVENUE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID IT, UPPER MIDDLE
1:37:19PM CLASS.
1:37:20PM THE RICH PEOPLE WERE THERE.
1:37:24PM WHY THEY CALL PLACES THE HEIGHTS BECAUSE IT WAS A NICE PLACE
1:37:27PM TO LIVE, TAMPA HEIGHTS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
1:37:29PM THERE IS A WHOLE STORY BEHIND THAT THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
1:37:34PM I HAVE KNOWN MY WHOLE LIFE, NEBRASKA AVENUE NOT AS A JOKE,
1:37:40PM BUT THE PROSTITUTION.
1:37:41PM THERE'S DRUG DEALING.
1:37:42PM THERE'S CRIME.
1:37:44PM BORRELL PARK WAS MENTIONED.
1:37:45PM I HAVE A FRIEND THAT LIVES RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
1:37:49PM IT'S CONSTANT.
1:37:50PM CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS?
1:37:51PM PEOPLE ARE LEAVING HERE.
1:37:53PM COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT.
1:37:55PM REACHED OUT TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE, CHIEF BENNETT, ON AND
1:37:58PM ON.
1:37:59PM NEBRASKA AVENUE NEEDS HELP.
1:38:00PM I EVEN LIKE THE NAME OF THIS PROJECT.
1:38:04PM YBOR.
1:38:04PM QUOTE GODFATHER 2, YOU TOOK THE NAME OF THIS TOWN WHEN THE
1:38:08PM GUY SAYS CORLEONE.
1:38:12PM THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT.
1:38:15PM I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COST PER UNIT, BUT WHEN

1:38:18PM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 50 YEARS, THAT'S GENERATIONAL ALMOST
1:38:21PM MULTIGENERATIONAL OF SUSTAINABILITY AND KEEPING SOMEBODY IN
1:38:26PM THEIR HOME.
1:38:27PM I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS UNNAMED THAT THEY RENT.
1:38:29PM I WAS A RENTER.
1:38:31PM THANKFULLY MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT A CONDO.
1:38:34PM WE THOUGHT WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO BUY AT $185,000.
1:38:38PM BUT I KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM BEING OUT ON
1:38:42PM THE STREET.
1:38:42PM I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT EVERY MONTH IT'S I GOT TO COME UP
1:38:48PM WITH THE RENT OR THE WORST IS THE RENEWAL RATE.
1:38:51PM HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO RAISE THE RENT THIS TIME.
1:38:53PM THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN MISERABLE FOR THEM.
1:38:56PM BECAUSE TAMPA IS UNAFFORDABLE.
1:38:59PM DOING THIS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEEDS, YOU KNOW, FOR MANY,
1:39:03PM MANY YEARS, THAT NEEDS A HAND UP, I THINK THIS IS A VERY
1:39:08PM WORTHY PROJECT.
1:39:09PM AS MS. McCASKILL, WHEN SHE SPOKE, SHE SAID I REPRESENT THE
1:39:14PM PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
1:39:15PM THIS COULD BE THE CATALYST.
1:39:17PM SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING.
1:39:19PM THIS COULD BE THAT PROJECT THAT REALLY REIGNITES NEBRASKA
1:39:23PM AVENUE.
1:39:23PM I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
1:39:24PM I APPRECIATE IT.

1:39:25PM I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF COUNCIL --
1:39:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WAS DON -- THE GODFATHER PART 2.
1:39:34PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN OR BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND BOARD
1:39:37PM MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:39:39PM AGAIN, WE'RE BEYOND THE TIME CRUNCH.
1:39:41PM SO PLEASE.
1:39:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ISSUE IS NOT THE PROJECT ITSELF.
1:39:45PM OBVIOUSLY, IT IS AN IMPORTANT CORRIDOR.
1:39:47PM AGAIN, I SAID IF YOU HAD MORE SITE CONTROL, THAT WOULD
1:39:52PM REALLY TRULY BE A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT.
1:39:55PM IT'S MATH.
1:39:56PM LITERALLY ON ZILLOW LOOKING AT RENTS.
1:39:58PM 80% AMI, THERE ARE A PLETHORA OF APARTMENTS AVAILABLE IN
1:40:02PM THIS AREA AND EVEN IN THE NEWER PLACES ON YBOR CITY FOR THE
1:40:05PM SAME AMOUNT THAT'S PROPOSED.
1:40:08PM THAT IS WHAT THE MARKET RATE IS RIGHT NOW IN TAMPA.
1:40:10PM GRANTED, AGAIN WE'RE IN A CORRECTION PERIOD OF RENT.
1:40:14PM I GET THAT.
1:40:15PM AGAIN, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
1:40:20PM I THINK EVEN THE CAC ONLY RECOMMENDED 2 MILLION I THINK.
1:40:24PM HONESTLY, I REALLY ENCOURAGE US CONTINUING THIS ITEM TO NEXT
1:40:30PM MONTH.
1:40:31PM YOU GUYS REWORK THESE NUMBERS AND COME BACK WITH A MORE
1:40:34PM REASONABLE PROPOSAL TO MATCH THE MARKET, TO MATCH WHAT WE'RE
1:40:37PM LOOKING AT, WORK WITH STAFF.

1:40:40PM I AGREE WITH BOTH COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
1:40:43PM ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP.
1:40:44PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GENERATIONAL WEALTH, BECAUSE I THINK ONE
1:40:47PM OF THE THINGS COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT, SAYING HOW WE
1:40:51PM HELP PEOPLE IS WITH GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
1:40:55PM I'M REALLY KEYED INTO THAT.
1:40:56PM IF WE USE GOVERNMENT MONEY, I THINK THAT IS A CATALYST FOR
1:41:00PM PEOPLE, THAT IS A REALLY TRUE BENEFIT THAT WE CAN BRING TO
1:41:02PM THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH THE
1:41:05PM PEOPLE.
1:41:06PM QUITE HONESTLY, AT THIS AMOUNT, NOBODY IN THE CRA THAT'S
1:41:10PM LIVING AND WORKING IN THE CRA CAN STILL EVEN AFFORD THIS.
1:41:13PM THIS IS STILL A REALLY -- THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
1:41:17PM CURRENTLY LIVING IN THE CRA THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT.
1:41:20PM IT'S GOING TO BE THE DOWNTOWN PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WORKING IN
1:41:23PM YBOR CITY.
1:41:23PM IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE CURRENTLY LIVING WITHIN THE
1:41:26PM CRA AND PAYING THE TAXES OF THE CRA.
1:41:29PM I WILL ACTUALLY MAKE THE MOTION AND SEE IF THIS CONTINUES.
1:41:32PM I WOULD MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO OUR NEXT CRA MEETING
1:41:36PM WHICH WOULD BE JULY --
1:41:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, I KNOW
1:41:48PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS GOING TO SPEAK.
1:41:50PM I WANT TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON THIS.
1:41:52PM I HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS TO GIVE ON THIS, WHICH I'LL SUFFICE

1:41:55PM IN TWO MINUTES.
1:41:56PM AGAIN, JUST SO THAT WE KNOW THE TERRAIN, HOW DO YOU FEEL
1:41:59PM ABOUT A 30 DAY CONTINUANCE?
1:42:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JULY 24.
1:42:04PM >> MY GOAL FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS HAS BEEN TO
1:42:07PM DELIVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS TO THE COMMUNITY AND FIND A
1:42:11PM WAY TO GET THIS PROJECT ACCOMPLISHED.
1:42:13PM IT'S BEEN A LONG TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
1:42:17PM I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME LIGHT AT THE END OF THE
1:42:21PM TUNNEL.
1:42:21PM THE QUESTION I'VE ASKED TO STAFF AND LEADERS IS HOW DO WE
1:42:27PM GET THIS PROJECT DONE?
1:42:28PM I THINK WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY AND GET THIS
1:42:33PM PROJECT DONE.
1:42:34PM WE'RE HAPPY TO COMMIT TO 30 OR 50 PERCENT AMI IF THAT MAKES
1:42:38PM IT BETTER.
1:42:39PM THAT WOULD KEEP OUR FEET TO THE FIRE TO GO FIGURE OUT HOW WE
1:42:42PM ACHIEVE THAT, BUT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO OBTAINING
1:42:47PM OUR FUNDING REQUEST SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING.
1:42:52PM I GUESS I'M OPEN.
1:42:55PM JUST NOT SURE WHAT IS BEING ASKED OF ME IN THAT AMOUNT OF
1:42:59PM TIME THAT I HAVEN'T ALREADY --
1:43:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, LET ME LET COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
1:43:04PM FINISH.
1:43:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH THAT IN LIGHT WHAT YOU JUST SAID, I

1:43:08PM THINK IF WE CAME BACK ON THE 24th WITH REWORKING THIS
1:43:12PM PROPOSAL, I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE A MORE -- YOU'D HAVE A
1:43:15PM MORE ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE FROM AT LEAST ONE PERSON.
1:43:18PM I CAN SPEAK TO.
1:43:19PM BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO WORK WITH STAFF AND YOU HAVE THAT
1:43:22PM DEFINITIVE PROPOSAL TO COME BEFORE US OF SAYING THIS IS WHAT
1:43:25PM WE'LL BUILD.
1:43:27PM BUILD 20 UNITS, 15 AT THIS AMI AND 5 AT THIS AMI AND THIS IS
1:43:35PM HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK.
1:43:38PM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MORE WISE MOVE.
1:43:42PM AGAIN, TOO MUCH FOR TOO LITTLE.
1:43:44PM YOU CAN TAKE YOUR SHOT.
1:43:45PM IF YOU GET IT VOTED DOWN.
1:43:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY QUICK, MR. BEREDAY, WE ARE PAST THE
1:43:54PM CLOCK.
1:43:55PM 30 SECONDS.
1:43:55PM GO FOR IT.
1:43:56PM >> I WENT TO DOZENS OF MEETINGS FOR A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF
1:44:00PM ASKING HOW TO GET, HOW CAN THE PROJECT GET FUNDED, WHERE IS
1:44:06PM THE MONEY AVAILABLE AND THIS IS THE END POINT OF THE
1:44:12PM JOURNEY.
1:44:13PM 30, 50 PERCENT AMI, IT REQUIRES OBTAINING VOUCHERS WHICH
1:44:17PM REQUIRE A COMPETITIVE RFP AND APPROVAL PROCESS THROUGH THE
1:44:21PM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY OR OTHER ALLOCATING AGENCIES.
1:44:26PM I'M NOT AWARE WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT BE OUT THERE

1:44:32PM FOR ME TO OBTAIN FUNDING TO GUARANTEE THE 30, 50 PERCENT AMI
1:44:37PM LEVEL.
1:44:40PM >> B. PARKS.
1:44:41PM JUST TO BREAK DOWN A COUPLE OF THINGS.
1:44:43PM WE DID GO BACK AS STAFF AND THAT'S WHEN RECOMMENDED THE $2
1:44:50PM MILLION.
1:44:52PM 100K PER UNIT.
1:44:54PM THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN ANY MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE OF
1:44:59PM FLORIDA IS DOING.
1:45:01PM AGAIN, CRA IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO CATER TO
1:45:06PM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPERS, NOT THE MEGA ONES.
1:45:10PM IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO MAKE THE DEALS WORK BECAUSE IT IS
1:45:14PM MORE EXPENSES FOR THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP THESE TYPE OF
1:45:17PM DEVELOPMENTS.
1:45:19PM AGAIN, THE HUNDRED K PER UNIT IS ACTUALLY A GOOD
1:45:23PM COUNTEROFFER.
1:45:24PM I KNOW HE'S REQUESTING 5 MILLION.
1:45:27PM BUT I WENT THROUGH RESEARCH AND THAT'S WHEN I COUNTERED WITH
1:45:30PM 2 MILLION WITH 100K PER UNIT BECAUSE AGAIN THAT'S EVEN MORE
1:45:35PM THAN WHAT IS GIVEN BY MUNICIPALITIES BUT THE COST OF
1:45:39PM CONSTRUCTION IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE PART.
1:45:42PM 30% AMI AND 50% AMI, HE IS INCORRECT WITH THAT INFORMATION
1:45:48PM ABOUT GOING FOR RFP FOR VOUCHERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS IT
1:45:52PM RELATES TO, IF YOUR RENT IS A CERTAIN LIMIT, YOU CAN RENT TO
1:45:56PM WHOEVER AS LONG AS THEY MAKE UNDER 80% AMI.

1:46:00PM NO MATTER WHAT, A 50% AMI CAN STILL COME AND RENT AS LONG AS
1:46:06PM THEY HAVE THAT VOUCHER FROM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THEY
1:46:10PM STILL HAVE THAT ABILITY OF USING THEIR OWN FUNDS TO COVER
1:46:12PM THE RENT.
1:46:14PM THERE IS A POSSIBILITY EITHER WAY.
1:46:15PM THEY DON'T NEED THAT.
1:46:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
1:46:18PM >> FROM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
1:46:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'RE AT 1:46.
1:46:24PM WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS.
1:46:25PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONTINUANCE OF A MONTH.
1:46:27PM I THINK WE NEED A CONTINUANCE AFTER LUNCH.
1:46:30PM JUST BEING HONEST.
1:46:31PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS.
1:46:33PM 1:45.
1:46:34PM STAFF NEEDS TO EAT.
1:46:35PM AND WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
1:46:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND WE HAVE A NIGHT MEETING.
1:46:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S ON US.
1:46:41PM PEOPLE ARE TALKING.
1:46:42PM AND THAT'S IT.
1:46:46PM CAN WE GET OUT -- NO, WE'RE NOT.
1:46:49PM WE STILL HAVE ITEM 11 WHICH NEEDS TO BE DONE THIS MONTH.
1:46:53PM COUNCIL, WHAT WE CAN DO IS RETURN AT 3:15.
1:47:01PM LOOK, WE'VE STILL GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT WITH

1:47:04PM THIS.
1:47:05PM I HAVEN'T EVEN GIVEN MY THOUGHTS.
1:47:08PM HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT IT AND STILL GOING BACK AND FORTH.
1:47:10PM I WANT TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON IT.
1:47:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ASK YOU GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS NOW AND COME
1:47:15PM BACK AT WHATEVER TIME.
1:47:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
1:47:17PM HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
1:47:18PM COUNCIL, IS EVERYONE AMENABLE TO TAKING A LUNCH AND
1:47:22PM RETURNING.
1:47:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ALREADY CANCELED EVERYTHING.
1:47:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M FINE WITH IT.
1:47:28PM AS A SIDE NOTE, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST WE GET TOGETHER FOR
1:47:31PM LUNCH JUST TO REMEMBER OUR FRIEND GWEN.
1:47:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL DO THAT.
1:47:36PM GREAT IDEA, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:47:38PM MY THOUGHTS, FOR ME, NUMBER ONE, I WANTED TO START WITH THE
1:47:41PM PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH IS I'VE NEVER SEEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON
1:47:45PM THIS ITEM THAT'S MORE IMPACTFUL IN A POSITIVE WAY TOWARDS A
1:47:49PM PROJECT.
1:47:49PM THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE ARE ALL STAKEHOLDERS, REAL,
1:47:53PM LEGITIMATE, ORGANIC STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS AREA.
1:47:57PM WHEN I SAY THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB, I DON'T MEAN THAT IN
1:48:00PM SOME GREAT PRESENTATION, ASTROTURF.
1:48:02PM IT WAS ORGANIC.

1:48:04PM THESE ARE FOLKS VESTED INTEREST.
1:48:06PM THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN FROM IT OTHER THAN A BETTER
1:48:09PM COMMUNITY THAT THEY LIVE IN.
1:48:10PM THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
1:48:11PM AGAIN, BEING UP HERE, YOU SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE
1:48:15PM THAT.
1:48:16PM TO ME, THIS IS ABOUT MORE THAN THE HOUSING.
1:48:19PM THIS IS ABOUT THE CORRIDOR.
1:48:21PM THIS GOES OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSING EFFORT THAT WE'RE SEEING
1:48:24PM HERE.
1:48:25PM IT'S REALLY GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE THAT'S POSITIVE
1:48:28PM IN THE CORRIDOR, WHICH IS WHY WE SAW SO MANY GOOD FOLKS FROM
1:48:31PM THE COMMUNITY COME OUT HERE WHO, AGAIN, GOT NOTHING TO GAIN
1:48:35PM OTHER THAN A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:48:37PM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
1:48:40PM ULTIMATELY, I DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, BUT I DO THINK THERE
1:48:46PM ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ANSWERED WHICH IS COUNCILMAN
1:48:49PM CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT TAKING A LOOK AT AMENDED AMI.
1:48:52PM LOOK AT THAT DURING LUNCH.
1:48:54PM LOOK AT THAT DURING LUNCH.
1:48:56PM THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING LUNCH.
1:48:58PM THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ON THIS.
1:48:59PM THIS IS NET, A BIG POSITIVE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
1:49:04PM FIVE MILLION DOLLARS AND SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, I WANT
1:49:07PM TO GET MORE DEFINITION ON THOSE, WHICH IS WHY I'M TALKING

1:49:11PM ABOUT LUNCH.
1:49:12PM AGAIN, FOR ME, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.
1:49:16PM I TALKED TO STAFF BEFORE ABOUT IT.
1:49:18PM THEY GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION ON IT PRIVATELY AND HAD A LOT
1:49:21PM OF THOUGHTS ABOUT IT.
1:49:22PM BUT PUBLIC COMMENT REALLY DID A VERY GOOD JOB, AGAIN,
1:49:26PM SPEAKING FROM THE HEART ON THEIR COMMUNITY BUT THERE ARE
1:49:28PM SOME ISSUES THAT I DO THINK NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND AT THE
1:49:32PM VERY LEAST TAKE OUT LUNCH TO THINK ABOUT THOSE.
1:49:38PM AM I ON THE RIGHT SPOT, COUNCIL?
1:49:40PM I THINK THAT IS REASONABLE.
1:49:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AGREE.
1:49:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE LAST THING, YOU MENTIONED YBOR, I WOULD
1:49:45PM ALWAYS URGE YOU TO REMEMBER SALVADOR MARTINEZ YBOR WHO WAS
1:49:49PM HIS GRANDSON WHO WAS KILLED IN ACTION IN WORLD WAR II.
1:49:54PM HONORARY STREET RENAMING AFTER HIM.
1:49:57PM GREAT PART OF THE YBOR LEGACY.
1:49:59PM COUNCIL, IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH TAKING A BREATHER AND HAVING
1:50:03PM LUNCH?
1:50:03PM MR. McCRAY.
1:50:04PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: IF I COULD HIGHLIGHT ONE THING.
1:50:07PM THERE WAS A COMMENT JUST MADE AND ATTORNEY SHEPHARD WANTED
1:50:10PM TO SPEAK TO THAT BEFORE WE TOOK A RECESS.
1:50:13PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: JUST BRIEFLY AND HATE TO BE A SCROOGE ON A
1:50:17PM DAY LIKE TODAY, BUT I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST DO YOU NOT

1:50:21PM LUNCH TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH THE CONVERSATION MIGHT BE JUST
1:50:23PM IN MEMORY OF CHAIR HENDERSON, THE LOOK OF IT AND WHAT
1:50:27PM SOMEONE MIGHT MAKE OUT OF IT IS PROBABLY NOT WORTH IT.
1:50:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: I GET IT.
1:50:36PM BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.
1:50:38PM THANK YOU, ATTORNEY SHEPHARD.
1:50:39PM SOMETIMES LAWYERS HAVE TO BE THE BAD GUYS.
1:50:41PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
1:50:43PM COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, GOOD FOR 3:00, 3:15?
1:50:49PM 3:15 IT IS.
1:50:51PM THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
1:50:54PM [LUNCH RECESS]

3:27:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: CRA IS CALLED BACK INTO SESSION.
3:27:14PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
3:27:15PM THANKS.
3:27:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
3:27:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
3:27:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
3:27:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
3:27:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
3:27:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
3:27:24PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
3:27:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:27:27PM WE WERE ON THE LATTER HALF -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE
3:27:31PM RECOGNIZED, SIR.

3:27:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MENTIONED EARLIER TO ASK MS. KOPESKY ABOUT
3:27:39PM THE FUN-LAN DEAL.
3:27:46PM I GOT A COPY.
3:27:47PM I TRY TO INTENTIONALLY FORGET THINGS AFTER WE APPROVE THEM.
3:27:50PM BUT IT WAS -- IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES.
3:27:54PM FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A 99-YEAR INTEREST-FREE LOAN FOR $12
3:27:59PM MILLION.
3:27:59PM SO THERE IS A SUBSIDY THERE AND IT'S INTEREST-FREE.
3:28:06PM I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GETS PAID BACK IN A HUNDRED YEARS, BUT
3:28:08PM THAT IS A DIFFERENT PAGE.
3:28:10PM HERE IS THE KICKER.
3:28:13PM IT'S UP TO 120% AMI.
3:28:16PM YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 80% AMI AS MARKET RATE RIGHT NOW.
3:28:21PM 120% IS WAY ABOVE MARKET RATE.
3:28:23PM IN THEORY, ANYTHING BETWEEN 80 AND 120, ANYTHING ABOVE 80%
3:28:27PM REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY SUBSIDY AT ALL.
3:28:29PM IF IT'S 35,000 A UNIT, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE SOMETHING
3:28:34PM THAT IS 120% AMI IS REALLY ABOVE WHAT AN AVERAGE PERSON CAN
3:28:39PM AFFORD RIGHT NOW.
3:28:40PM IF THIS WAS TALKING ABOUT 50% AMI, THAT WOULD BE A
3:28:45PM DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S NOT.
3:28:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MEETING THIS EVENING AT 5:00.
3:28:55PM WE'RE AT 3:30.
3:28:56PM WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER ITEM AFTER THIS.
3:28:58PM SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD BUT MOVE FORWARD WITH VIGOR.

3:29:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE DEVELOPER OR
3:29:04PM EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS THING.
3:29:06PM I JUST QUESTION MYSELF OVER HAVING A SANDWICH -- YOU'RE
3:29:16PM RIGHT, SUBWAY.
3:29:17PM DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT BECAUSE McDONALD'S WOULD GET MAD AT
3:29:20PM ME.
3:29:20PM MAYBE THE CAC APPROVED SOMETHING.
3:29:29PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID.
3:29:30PM I LOOK AROUND AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS THE CRA IS
3:29:34PM GOING TO HAVE LEFT TO DO OTHER -- I MEAN HELP PEOPLE WITH
3:29:38PM MORTGAGE OR PAYMENTS.
3:29:40PM I DON'T KNOW NONE OF THAT STUFF.
3:29:42PM TAKING A SHOT HERE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
3:29:44PM I JUST DON'T LIKE TO VOTE NO.
3:29:46PM I LIKE TO VOTE YES.
3:29:48PM I HAVE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO
3:29:52PM QUESTIONS.
3:29:53PM DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRA HAS LEFT ONCE IT IS PAID DO THEY
3:29:55PM HAVE MONEY FOR ASSISTANCE?
3:29:57PM I DON'T KNOW.
3:29:58PM I'VE GOT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING ALL THE WAY AROUND.
3:30:01PM I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE KNOWN FACT AND UNKNOWN FACT AT THE
3:30:03PM SAME TIME, WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME OR ANYBODY ELSE.
3:30:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
3:30:09PM I THINK WE HAVE MR. McCRAY HERE FOR THAT.

3:30:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK, IF IT IS A QUESTION ABOUT
3:30:17PM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN REGARDS TO OTHER PROJECTS FOR WHAT
3:30:21PM HAS BEEN EARMARKED FOR HOUSING, CAN THE DEVELOPER STILL
3:30:25PM MANAGE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LOWER AMOUNT INSTEAD OF
3:30:29PM KILLING THE PROJECT, SAYING NO.
3:30:32PM I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
3:30:33PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: ULTIMATELY THEY WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT
3:30:35PM QUESTION.
3:30:36PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
3:30:36PM CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
3:30:38PM MR. BEREDAY WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
3:30:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED I THINK BY
3:30:45PM INFERENCE HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE LEFT OUT OF THE 30% FOR
3:30:48PM THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
3:30:50PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE DID HAVE A SPECIAL-CALLED BUDGET
3:30:53PM WORKSHOP ON MAY 27 AND THEN WE HAD A CAC MEETING THIS PAST
3:30:57PM TUESDAY OR TUESDAY, JUNE 3rd.
3:31:00PM THE EAST TAMPA CAC ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED MORE THAN THE
3:31:04PM ALLOCATED OR MANDATED 30%.
3:31:07PM IT'S A LITTLE ABOVE 50.
3:31:10PM BUT THOSE DOLLARS ARE FOR HOUSING REHAB PROGRAM, WE PROBABLY
3:31:15PM HAVE COMMITTED OVER $3 MILLION IN THAT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
3:31:20PM DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
3:31:22PM I DID SHARE THIS WITH THEM DURING THE PROCESS THAT WE
3:31:24PM ALLOCATED 1.5 ALREADY THIS FISCAL YEAR AND TALKING WITH HCD

3:31:30PM TO REPROGRAM SOME MORE DOLLARS AS WELL.
3:31:34PM THEN THE INFILL HOUSING PROGRAM.
3:31:36PM THEY DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
3:31:40PM CREATION AND CONVERSION, THIS ULTIMATELY WOULD BE WHERE THAT
3:31:42PM WOULD FALL.
3:31:44PM AND THAT ALLOCATION WAS RIGHT AT $2 MILLION THEY HAD
3:31:48PM REQUESTED THAT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS MOVED TO THE
3:31:52PM COMMERCIAL GRANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
3:31:54PM AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS, WHICH THE
3:31:59PM BOARD HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT YOU ALL WANT US TO BE AS
3:32:03PM AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE IN WORKING WITH REAL ESTATE TO FIND
3:32:06PM AVAILABLE PARCELS IN ALL OF THE CRAs.
3:32:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW MUCH WOULD BE LEFT FOR HOUSING OUT OF THE
3:32:13PM CRA IN EAST TAMPA IF WE APPROVE THIS AT THE FULL REQUESTED
3:32:17PM AMOUNT?
3:32:18PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: IF IT'S OVER TWO FISCAL YEARS, IT WOULD BE
3:32:21PM 2.5 PER YEAR.
3:32:23PM BUT THAT WOULD DEFINITELY AFFECT HOW THEY MADE ALLOCATIONS
3:32:28PM OR SUGGESTIONS, ULTIMATELY THE BUDGET WOULD BE COMING BEFORE
3:32:31PM YOU ALL AT THE JULY MEETING.
3:32:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL, BEFORE WE CONTINUE SPEAKING, HOW
3:32:36PM ABOUT THIS, TO GET THIS THING MOVING, AGAIN, BEEN ON IT FOR
3:32:41PM A WHILE AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE BRING IT IN FOR A LANDING.
3:32:45PM IS SOMEONE PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION?
3:32:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON THIS YEAR'S.

3:32:51PM HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE THIS YEAR IN THIS BUCKET?
3:32:54PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CAC,
3:32:57PM ROUGHLY ABOUT 5.5 MILLION.
3:32:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
3:32:59PM IN FY '25.
3:33:02PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, REMAINING.
3:33:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: RIGHT NOW, 5.5.
3:33:05PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THEY MADE THE REQUEST TO REPROGRAM SOME
3:33:09PM DOLLARS TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
3:33:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MEANT IN THE SUB-BUCKET.
3:33:15PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CREATION AND CONVERSION.
3:33:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 5.5 IN CREATION AND CONVERSION.
3:33:20PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: NO, NO.
3:33:21PM THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD, THE TOTAL.
3:33:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT DO WE HAVE IN CREATION AND CONVERSION?
3:33:30PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: -- 2 MILLION.
3:33:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS YEAR. WHAT DO WE HAVE?
3:33:33PM ABOUT 2 MILLION.
3:33:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
3:33:44PM WORK ANY OF THESE THINGS DURING THE LUNCH BREAK AND WANTED
3:33:47PM TO PRESENT THAT.
3:33:48PM ABSENT THAT, I STILL THINK THE WISE THING TO DO, YOU GUYS --
3:33:53PM YOU HEAR THE FISCAL REALITIES OF THIS BUDGET AND THAT YOU
3:33:58PM GUYS GET TOGETHER AND WE CONTINUE THIS UNTIL THE JULY
3:34:01PM MEETING SO THAT WE HAVE REAL FIGURES.

3:34:04PM THEN WE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE, WHAT
3:34:07PM THE IMPACT THAT HAS ON THE REST OF THE BUDGET FOR LIKE DOWN
3:34:11PM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND ALL THAT.
3:34:12PM WE DON'T WANT TO STEAL FROM ONE PROGRAM TO PAY FOR ANOTHER.
3:34:15PM SO I THINK GETTING THIS -- THE REAL DOLLARS.
3:34:18PM AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND, I THINK IT'S A
3:34:22PM BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
3:34:23PM IT'S A GREAT LOCATION.
3:34:25PM THERE IS A LOT OF POSITIVE HERE.
3:34:26PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
3:34:31PM PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT CRA DISTRICT AND WE'RE DOING THIS
3:34:33PM FOR THE RIGHT -- THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE RIGHT
3:34:37PM PROJECT, ALL THOSE THINGS.
3:34:39PM I JUST REALLY WANT IT TO BE BALANCED.
3:34:41PM I REALLY TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE THOSE
3:34:44PM FEW WEEKS FOR YOU GUYS TO WORK IT OUT, WORK WITH STAFF AND
3:34:49PM COME BACK WITH A DEFINITIVE, LIKE THIS IS REASONABLE
3:34:55PM EXPECTATION OF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR BANK ACCOUNT AND WHAT
3:34:58PM YOU'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE AS FAR AS AMI AND BENEFIT FOR
3:35:02PM THE COMMUNITY.
3:35:03PM IN MY HEART AND SOUL, I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE
3:35:05PM ABLE TO GET TO A GOOD RESULT TODAY.
3:35:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: TO CALL UP THAD BEREDAY, WERE YOU ABLE TO WORK
3:35:16PM UP ANYTHING DURING LUNCH?
3:35:17PM WE'LL GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES.

3:35:26PM >> THIS DOES NOT RESPOND TO THE COMMENT THAT WAS JUST MADE,
3:35:29PM FROM THE DISCUSSION PRIOR TO OUR ADJOURNMENT, WE CIRCLED
3:35:35PM WAGONS, HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH STAFF AND WOULD PROPOSE THE
3:35:38PM FOLLOWING IN RETURN FOR THE APPROVAL OF OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS
3:35:42PM GRANT REQUEST AT THE $5 MILLION TODAY.
3:35:45PM WE WOULD VOLUNTARILY COMMIT AND RESTRICT THE AMI LEVELS, 12
3:35:52PM UNITS 80% AMI, 6 UNITS, 50% AMI.
3:35:57PM 2 UNITS, 30% AMI.
3:36:01PM THAT WOULD BE 8 UNITS AT THE LOWER LEVELS, AND WE WOULD NOT
3:36:06PM MAKE THAT CONTINGENT.
3:36:08PM WE WOULD MAKE THAT A COMMITMENT THAT WOULD BE CONTRACTED.
3:36:11PM SO IT WOULD CHANGE OUR MARKETING PROGRAM SO THAT WE'RE NOT
3:36:16PM JUST MAKING -- WE WOULD HAVE 12 UNITS AVAILABLE FOR 80% AMI
3:36:20PM BUT THE OTHER UNITS WOULD BE RESTRICTED AND WE WOULD COMMIT
3:36:24PM TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
3:36:24PM WE CAN'T DO MORE THAN 8 VOUCHERS FOR OTHER REASONS.
3:36:28PM IT WOULD BE THE 50-YEAR AFFORDABILITY LOCK-IN.
3:36:32PM AND THEN I THINK THE ISSUE BECAME TIMING OF THE PAYMENTS.
3:36:39PM BY MAKING THAT CONCESSION, WE ARE REDUCING THE AMOUNT THAT
3:36:44PM WE CAN BORROW UNDER OUR CONSTRUCTION LOAN, SO WE'RE RAISING
3:36:47PM THE HURDLE OF PRIVATE EQUITY CAPITAL THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE
3:36:50PM AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL PROJECT.
3:36:52PM IT WAS GOING TO BE 1.2 MILLION, NOW IT WILL BE 2 MILLION.
3:36:56PM THE $800,000 IMPACT FROM THAT AGREEMENT BEING THE DELTA, THE
3:37:01PM CHANGE.

3:37:02PM AND WE WOULD LIKE THE PAYMENTS FROM THE CRA PAID ON THE SAME
3:37:09PM TERMS AS OUR CONSTRUCTION LOAN.
3:37:11PM AS WE COMPLETE THE PROJECT OVER THE NEXT 18 TO 24 MONTHS WE
3:37:18PM WOULD SUBMIT COMPLETION AND VERIFICATION THAT WE
3:37:21PM ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH AND THEN A
3:37:23PM DRAWDOWN FROM THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN AND A DRAWDOWN FROM THE
3:37:27PM CRA.
3:37:27PM THAT CREATES A TIMING ISSUE THAT IS A BUDGET QUESTION.
3:37:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:37:31PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, AND THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:37:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE DILEMMA AGAIN WITH THE 5
3:37:38PM MILLION, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT AS MS. PARK SAID, EVEN
3:37:43PM HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER UNIT EXCEEDS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE
3:37:47PM ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
3:37:48PM THE FISCAL REALITY, OUR BUDGET IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA, OVER
3:37:53PM TWO-YEAR PERIOD, IT WOULD STILL ONLY BE 2.5, AND IF WE COULD
3:37:57PM EVEN DO THAT AND EVEN I'M HEARING EVEN BY DOING THAT WE'RE
3:38:00PM STILL GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY TAKING FROM OTHER FUNDS TO BE
3:38:03PM ABLE TO MAKE THAT WORK.
3:38:06PM YOU BASICALLY WOULD TAKE HUNDRED PERCENT FOR ALL THE MONEY
3:38:09PM FOR ANY PROJECT IN THE CRA FOR THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF
3:38:12PM PROJECT AND POTENTIALLY CUT INTO THE DOWN PAYMENT
3:38:14PM ASSISTANCE, SO SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS.
3:38:17PM I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
3:38:18PM THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME ROOM IN HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS,

3:38:22PM BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE SO MUCH MONEY IN OUR POT AND RESTRICTED
3:38:26PM TO THOSE LIMITATIONS.
3:38:28PM I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ALL NEED TO TALK
3:38:31PM ABOUT BETWEEN NOW AND THE 24th OF JULY TO GET THE REAL
3:38:35PM BECAUSE OTHERWISE, FISCAL REALITY.
3:38:37PM WE'VE GOT X AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BUDGET AND THAT'S ALL WE
3:38:41PM HAVE.
3:38:42PM IT'S ALL WE HAVE.
3:38:44PM RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY ARE TELLING -- WHAT STAFF IS TELLING ME,
3:38:46PM IS JUST FOR THE NEXT YEAR, WE BASICALLY HAVE $2 MILLION OUT
3:38:52PM OF THIS YEAR AND MAYBE 2 MILLION OF NEXT YEAR, BUT THAT'S
3:38:55PM ALL THE MONEY WE HAVE IN THAT PARTICULAR POT.
3:38:58PM UNDERSTANDING THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CRA IS WILLING TO
3:39:02PM SAY WE'LL INVEST ALL OF OUR MONEY IN ONE PROJECT.
3:39:05PM THAT IS A BIG ASK.
3:39:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
3:39:09PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:39:10PM AGAIN, WE'LL LIMIT COMMENTS TO TWO MINUTES SO WE CAN MOVE
3:39:13PM THIS FORWARD.
3:39:14PM WE HAVE A 5:00.
3:39:15PM FOR PURPOSES OF QUASI-JUDICIAL, WE NEED TO HAVE A BREAK.
3:39:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOW WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION THAT DEBUNKS THE
3:39:29PM $35,000 PER UNIT THING.
3:39:31PM HOPEFULLY WE'LL NEVER DISCUSS THAT AGAIN.
3:39:33PM MS. PARKS PUT TOGETHER THE CHART, SHE DID BENCHMARKING.

3:39:36PM WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION.
3:39:38PM IF YOU WANT TO REVISIT THAT AND LOOK AT THE BENCHMARKING OF
3:39:41PM IT.
3:39:42PM BUT TO GO DEEP INTO THAT, THAT AND THE CHART WILL TAKE A LOT
3:39:46PM OF TIME.
3:39:46PM I THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPER AND OTHERS HAVE PUT TOGETHER IN
3:39:50PM GOOD FAITH PRESENTATIONS BASED ON WHAT WE APPROVED IN
3:39:53PM FEBRUARY.
3:39:54PM IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE CHART, SET UP A MEETING AND PUT
3:39:58PM SOME TIME AFTER IT SO WE CAN SET EXPECTATIONS ON WHAT WE CAN
3:40:03PM DO.
3:40:04PM THE REALITY IS THAT THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROJECTS
3:40:06PM BEHIND THIS.
3:40:07PM THERE'S AT LEAST ONE $9 MILLION PROJECT.
3:40:10PM IF WE TURN THIS DOWN TODAY, WHAT THIS CITY HAS ALWAYS DONE
3:40:13PM IS TURN DOWN THE SMALL DEVELOPERS, TURN DOWN THE NONPROFITS
3:40:17PM IN FAVOR OF THE BIG DEVELOPERS.
3:40:19PM IF WE TURN THIS DOWN TODAY, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT
3:40:21PM WE NOT ALLOW ANY OF THE BIG PROJECTS TO COME BACK THROUGH
3:40:24PM FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
3:40:25PM BECAUSE IF WE'RE HOLDING OUT MONEY FOR A BIG DEVELOPER AND
3:40:28PM WON'T GIVE IT TO THE SMALL ONES OR THE NONPROFITS WHICH
3:40:31PM ESSENTIALLY THIS IS NOW, I THINK IT IS DESPICABLE.
3:40:35PM SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL THAT HE
3:40:39PM JUST PUT ON THE TABLE WHICH WOULD BE 5 MILLION -- HE

3:40:41PM ANSWERED THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTION.
3:40:43PM IT'S A SMALL DEVELOPER WHO HE HAPPENS TO BE IN EAST TAMPA
3:40:49PM BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LINES WERE DRAWN BY SOMEBODY BESIDES
3:40:51PM US, IT'S AN AREA WHERE IT WILL COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THAT
3:40:56PM AREA.
3:40:57PM HE'S ANSWERED THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTION BY PUTTING LOWER AMI.
3:41:00PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 5 MILLION THAT
3:41:02PM WOULD INCLUDE SIX UNITS AT 50% AMI, TWO UNITS AT 30% AMI, 12
3:41:09PM AT 80% AMI.
3:41:10PM THE OTHER ONE WAS 120%.
3:41:14PM CAN YOU ALSO SAY THAT TWO OF THEM ARE ADA?
3:41:18PM >> YES.
3:41:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO AT 80% THAT ARE ADA?
3:41:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. BEREDAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP.
3:41:26PM >> THAD BEREDAY, URBAN REWORX.
3:41:29PM THE ADA UNITS ARE GROUND LEVEL AND DESIGNED FOR THAT.
3:41:33PM I HOPE THEY WOULD BE THE 30% AMI UNITS.
3:41:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU'LL COMMIT TO TWO ADA UNITS.
3:41:39PM >> YES.
3:41:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
3:41:41PM TWO ADA UNITS.
3:41:42PM SIX AT 50% AMI.
3:41:45PM >> YES.
3:41:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED.
3:41:47PM TWO AT 30% AMI, AND THEN 12 AT 80% AMI.

3:41:51PM AND THAT'S FOR 50 YEARS.
3:41:53PM YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS MONEY -- THIS MONEY IS NOT PAYING
3:41:56PM FOR CONSTRUCTION.
3:41:57PM IT'S SUBSIDIZING THAT LEASE THAT WE'RE BUYING THAT UNIT,
3:42:02PM BUYING DOWN THE LEASE OVER A 50-YEAR PERIOD FOR PEOPLE.
3:42:06PM >> CORRECT.
3:42:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS A SMALL DEVELOPER SO THE NUMBERS ARE
3:42:08PM NOT GOING TO BE BIG.
3:42:10PM TURN DOWN 8 UNITS WAY BELOW MARKET, THEN WE SHOULD TURN DOWN
3:42:15PM ALL THE BIG ONES --
3:42:16PM >> THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH IS
3:42:18PM DIFFERENT FROM AVAILABLE UNITS ON THE MARKET TODAY.
3:42:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MAKE MY MOTION.
3:42:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON OR
3:42:25PM BOARD MEMBER.
3:42:25PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
3:42:26PM ANY DISCUSSION BRIEFLY?
3:42:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN A DEFINITIVE
3:42:33PM ANSWER.
3:42:34PM YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBERS.
3:42:35PM IF WE DO THIS, WHAT IS LEFT OVER FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWN
3:42:39PM PAYMENTS FOR THINGS WE NORMALLY DO WITHOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT?
3:42:44PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT OR NOT.
3:42:47PM >> B. PARKS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
3:42:51PM CURRENTLY WE HAVE $1.5 MILLION IN THE CREATION AND

3:42:53PM CONVERSION LINE ITEM AS OF RIGHT NOW.
3:42:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S INCLUDING THIS?
3:42:59PM >>BELIX PARKS: NO --
3:43:01PM WHEN I LOOKED AT THE 1.5 MILLION, I LOOKED FIRST AT THE
3:43:06PM CALCULATION THAT I PROPOSED FOR THE 2 MILLION THAT WAS
3:43:08PM SUPPOSED TO BE 666 A YEAR.
3:43:12PM THAT'S HOW I BROKE DOWN THE THREE-YEAR COMMITMENT FOR THIS
3:43:14PM PROJECT AT $2 MILLION.
3:43:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU DON'T HAVE ANY
3:43:19PM MONEY LEFT OVER AT ALL?
3:43:21PM >>BELIX PARKS: WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT -- LET'S DO THE MATH.
3:43:24PM 5 MILLION DIVIDED BY 3 YEARS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
3:43:27PM LOOKING AT, RIGHT?
3:43:28PM 5 MILLION, BECAUSE OUR TERMS ARE THREE YEARS.
3:43:31PM THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING RIGHT NOW.
3:43:33PM SO THAT'S 1.666 PER YEAR THAT WE HAVE TO RESERVE FOR THIS
3:43:37PM PROJECT FOR THREE YEARS.
3:43:39PM NEXT YEAR WE HAVE 2 MILLION THAT WE ALLOCATED FOR THIS
3:43:46PM CREATION AND CONVERSION.
3:43:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHERE IS THE MILLION FOR THE 9 MILLION ONE
3:43:55PM COMING FROM?
3:43:56PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE DOLLARS THAT
3:43:59PM WOULD BE REPROGRAMMED FROM THIS YEAR.
3:44:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: MONEY FOR 9 MILLION ONE BUT DON'T HAVE MONEY
3:44:06PM FOR 5 MILLION ONE.

3:44:08PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: NO, I DIDN'T -- AND THAT PROJECT WOULD ALSO
3:44:11PM HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED OUT AS WELL.
3:44:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: PLUS ALL THE TEN OTHERS SITTING OUT THERE.
3:44:15PM >>BELIX PARKS: CORRECT.
3:44:16PM BECAUSE THIS, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REFERENCE, EAST TAMPA IS
3:44:22PM THE MOST DEVELOPER REQUEST THAT WE GET THROUGH THE DOOR IS
3:44:25PM FOR EAST TAMPA.
3:44:27PM SO THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.
3:44:31PM MOST DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN FOR EAST TAMPA.
3:44:33PM SO THIS POT OF MONEY FOR UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION IS THE
3:44:37PM MOST RESTRICTED.
3:44:39PM THAT'S WHAT I RELY ON, DEFER TO MR. McCRAY TO FIGURE OUT
3:44:43PM HOW WE CAN MOVE THAT MONEY, BECAUSE I WORK OFF OF RIGHT NOW
3:44:46PM A 30% BUDGET FOR FY '25 AND A PROPOSED 50% PLUS FOR 2026
3:44:53PM BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY ROLLOVER.
3:44:55PM THE ROLLOVER DAYS ARE OVER.
3:44:57PM JUST FULLY TRANSPARENT.
3:45:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
3:45:03PM WERE YOU FINISHED?
3:45:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M FINISHED.
3:45:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
3:45:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:45:11PM GOING FORWARD, WHEN WE ARE BRINGING THESE TYPES OF FUNDING
3:45:15PM REQUESTS FROM NOW ON, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THE FINANCIALS
3:45:18PM FOR THAT CRA BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'M VERY CONFUSED AND I'M

3:45:23PM VERY VISUAL.
3:45:26PM I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO ASK FOR THAT GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE
3:45:31PM THE PROBLEM IS YOU COME FOR AN ASK AND THIS IS A PROJECT --
3:45:37PM WELL, MAJORITY OF US WANT TO SUPPORT, BUT KNOWING THAT WE
3:45:42PM DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IS KIND OF A BIG PART OF IT.
3:45:47PM IT DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL FROM THE GET-GO TO
3:45:50PM KNOW WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY.
3:45:51PM SO THAT'S WHY I AM --
3:45:58PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT ULTIMATELY WAS BASED ON THE
3:46:00PM RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF TO THE EAST TAMPA CAC.
3:46:03PM AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS BASED ON.
3:46:06PM >>BELIX PARKS: WE DID HAVE MONEY FOR 2 MILLION.
3:46:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME MAKE SURE WE'RE RUNNING THIS MEETING
3:46:10PM PROPERLY.
3:46:11PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, DID YOU HAVE A REQUEST THEN FOR A
3:46:14PM DEFINITE AMOUNT SPECIFIED IN TERMS OF WHAT WOULD BE LEFT
3:46:19PM OVER?
3:46:20PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
3:46:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY ISSUE IS WITH VOTING ON THIS TODAY, I WANT
3:46:24PM TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH.
3:46:28PM THIS IS INFORMATION WE WOULD NEED TO VOTE ON THIS, RIGHT?
3:46:30PM I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
3:46:32PM I WANT TO SEE IT GO FORWARD.
3:46:34PM IF IT GETS CONTINUED TO NEXT MONTH, I'LL VOTE YES, 99%,
3:46:38PM 99.9%.

3:46:40PM BUT WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.
3:46:43PM AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BEFORE, SO
3:46:46PM I'M NOT SAYING THAT AS AN ATTACK.
3:46:48PM GOD KNOWS YOU GUYS GO 85 MILES AN HOUR IN A 55-MILE AN HOUR
3:46:52PM ZONE.
3:46:52PM WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
3:46:53PM BUT WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.
3:46:56PM I ALMOST FEEL LIKE I WANT TO GO, HEY, LET'S WAIT 30 MINUTES,
3:47:01PM GET THE INFORMATION, BUT WE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE CLOCK.
3:47:03PM THAT'S MY THOUGHT.
3:47:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ALL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
3:47:09PM I KNOW IF I GO PUT ALL THIS IN THIS BASKETBALL, THERE ARE NO
3:47:13PM MORE EGGS IN THE BASKETBALL.
3:47:15PM AND I HAVE HALF A YEAR TO GO.
3:47:17PM I HAVE TO BALANCE IT OUT BETWEEN DO I PUT ALL MY EGGS IN ONE
3:47:23PM BASKET?
3:47:24PM WHAT ABOUT THE ONES ASKING FOR HELP.
3:47:26PM I UNDERSTAND THIS IS 20 FAMILIES.
3:47:28PM I'M TRYING TO BALANCE IT OUT.
3:47:30PM THIS IS NOT A BAD PROJECT.
3:47:32PM I LOVE THE DESIGN.
3:47:33PM I LOVE THE LOCATION.
3:47:34PM IF SOMEBODY KNOCKS ON THE DOOR, HEY, HOW ABOUT ME?
3:47:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AVAILABLE TODAY ON
3:47:43PM WHAT IS LEFT?

3:47:44PM YOU SAID WE HAVE $1.5 MILLION ALREADY LEFT OVER, CORRECT,
3:47:47PM ASIDE FROM THIS.
3:47:48PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CORRECT.
3:47:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
3:47:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS LEFT IN THE CRA
3:47:58PM BUDGET, PERIOD.
3:47:59PM NOT JUST HOUSING.
3:48:01PM I NEED TO KNOW ALL THE AREAS.
3:48:04PM LIKE I SAID IN THE FUTURE, I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU TO
3:48:09PM VISUALIZE WHAT I'M TRYING TO SEE.
3:48:12PM I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR A SECOND COLUMN IN THAT -- I'M
3:48:19PM VISUALIZING THE SCHEDULE YOU GIVE US, THE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE
3:48:22PM EVERYTHING GOES EVERY TIME WE LOOK AT THE ANNUAL BUDGET, BUT
3:48:24PM MAYBE AN EXTRA COLUMN WITH WHAT WE SPENT AND WHAT WE HAVE.
3:48:30PM BECAUSE I JUST ASKED, I THINK, LAST MEETING TO MOVE A
3:48:36PM HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE EXTRA TREE TRIMMING AND THAT
3:48:39PM DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM.
3:48:40PM BUT NOW I'M WONDERING, OKAY, I KNOW WHERE WE TOOK IT FROM.
3:48:45PM SOME SORT OF -- WHERE DID --
3:48:47PM >> -- INFRASTRUCTURE AND IMPROVEMENTS.
3:48:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS.
3:48:53PM BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT MONEY IS LEFT THERE.
3:48:56PM I GUESS I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S MONEY IN OTHER BUCKETS THAT
3:48:58PM WE COULD SHIFT.
3:49:00PM SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WANT THE BUDGET AS A WHOLE.

3:49:03PM BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHERE WE COULD POSSIBLY SHIFT FUNDING
3:49:07PM FROM THIS YEAR IF THERE IS ANY.
3:49:11PM I HATE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THIS, BUT I KIND OF
3:49:16PM FEEL LIKE WE DO.
3:49:17PM I REALLY WANT TO SEE THE NUMBERS.
3:49:23PM DO I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
3:49:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
3:49:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I THINK --
3:49:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT JUST THIS YEAR THAT WE NEED TO THE
3:49:36PM PROJECTIONS, HOW THEY ARE PAID OUT TOO.
3:49:39PM ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.
3:49:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS NOT JUST THIS PROJECT.
3:49:51PM I AM SO SORRY TO THIS DEVELOPER BECAUSE YOU ARE THE FIRST
3:49:55PM ONE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS WITH.
3:49:57PM WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
3:50:05PM WHAT WE'RE REALIZING IN THIS IS WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY
3:50:07PM THE BACKUP INFORMATION THAT WE NEED.
3:50:10PM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE PROFUSELY, BECAUSE I DO SUPPORT THIS
3:50:15PM PROJECT.
3:50:16PM I THINK THAT WE CAN FIND THE 5 MILLION.
3:50:18PM I REALLY DO.
3:50:19PM IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LOOKING AT -- AND IF I HAD IT IN FRONT
3:50:24PM OF ME, I COULD MOVE THE MONEY NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
3:50:27PM THERE IS THE OPTION OF CONTINUING IT OR TALKING ABOUT THIS
3:50:35PM POTENTIAL GUIDELINE AMENDMENTS.

3:50:37PM THESE WILL BE QUESTIONS AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING
3:50:42PM COME BACK.
3:50:44PM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO PULL THE NUMBERS
3:50:48PM TOGETHER?
3:50:48PM I GUESS THAT IS A QUESTION.
3:50:53PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE CAN.
3:50:54PM I'D LIKE TO CONFER WITH THE BUDGET ANALYST TO MAKE SURE
3:50:56PM BECAUSE SHE WOULD HAVE THE MOST UPDATED INFORMATION.
3:51:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL AGREE TO THAT ONLY IF IT IS THE FIRST
3:51:04PM THING ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
3:51:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN
3:51:10PM CLENDENIN.
3:51:11PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE THIS AS ITEM
3:51:16PM NUMBER 1.
3:51:17PM STATE MY INTENTION, WHICH IS SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, BUT I
3:51:20PM THINK AS STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC'S TRUST AND FUNDS, THIS IS
3:51:26PM INFORMATION WE HAVE TO EXHAUST TO GO THROUGH.
3:51:29PM LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, WE WILL GET THERE BECAUSE
3:51:32PM THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO GET THERE, BUT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH
3:51:35PM THE PROCESS.
3:51:36PM OTHERWISE I THINK IT WOULD BE WRONG.
3:51:37PM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL?
3:51:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:51:40PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:51:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE MORE MOTION SINCE

3:51:50PM EVERYBODY IS HERE.
3:51:50PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUT ON THE SEPTEMBER 11 MEETING
3:51:55PM A DISCUSSION THAT WOULD BE LED BY MS. PARKS TO DISCUSS THE
3:51:59PM CHART AND ANY OTHER BENCHMARKING SHE HAS FROM OTHER CITIES,
3:52:05PM AND THEN ALSO TO DISCUSS WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED FROM ALL THE
3:52:10PM PROPOSALS YOU'VE GOTTEN SINCE FEBRUARY SO THAT WE CAN
3:52:12PM DETERMINE IF THE CHART IS CORRECT AND WHAT THE GUIDELINES
3:52:18PM WOULD BE.
3:52:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:52:20PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:52:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:52:22PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:52:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:52:33PM AGAIN, IT WILL COME BACK IN 30 DAYS.
3:52:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: ARE YOU HAVING A SCHEDULING PROBLEM?
3:52:43PM >> NO, NO, WE'RE FINE.
3:52:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CLARITY IS THAT YOU THREW OUT SOME
3:52:47PM NUMBERS.
3:52:48PM I THINK WE ALL WANT TO HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
3:52:51PM THIS WAY YOU'LL HAVE TWO MONTHS TO GO THROUGH AND REALLY
3:52:54PM PLAN AND THINK ABOUT IT.
3:52:55PM YOU CAN TALK TO US AND PRESENT IT ALL.
3:52:57PM BUT ALSO LOOKING IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PROPOSALS YOU'VE
3:53:00PM GOTTEN.
3:53:00PM IN THE PAST, REMEMBER, WE HAD A PROPOSAL SAID I NEED $10

3:53:05PM MILLION BUT NOTHING WAS TIED TO IT.
3:53:07PM THIS -- THE CHART WE'RE SPECIFICALLY BUYING A CERTAIN AMOUNT
3:53:10PM OF AMI, CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS FOR 50 YEARS.
3:53:14PM AT LEAST WE HAVE CERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE'RE GETTING.
3:53:16PM IF YOU HAVE NEW INFORMATION THAT MIGHT CHANGE IT OR INFORM
3:53:20PM IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW THEN.
3:53:23PM I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH.
3:53:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
3:53:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION THAT'S CONNECTED TO THIS.
3:53:37PM WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE WORDING.
3:53:39PM IN THE FUTURE FOR ANY OF THESE LARGE FORMAT, THE SPECIAL
3:53:51PM PROJECTS FOR ANY SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT COME IN FRONT OF US,
3:53:54PM WE ARE GOING TO NEED A BUDGET FOR THAT CRA THAT INCLUDES THE
3:53:59PM ENTIRE BUDGET OF THE CRA, WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT FOR
3:54:03PM THE FISCAL YEAR AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE.
3:54:04PM SO THAT'S THE MOTION.
3:54:08PM BUT I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MONTH
3:54:11PM ON WHAT I WOULD LIKE THAT CHART TO LOOK LIKE.
3:54:16PM LIKE I SAID, I CAN SEE IT IN MY HEAD.
3:54:18PM I KNOW WHAT I THINK WILL HELP US BE ABLE TO -- I KNOW YOU
3:54:22PM WANT TO SEE THE FUTURE, BUT THE ISSUE IS WE HAVEN'T APPROVED
3:54:25PM THAT BUDGET YET.
3:54:26PM BUT IF YOU COULD BRING -- OBVIOUSLY, THE PROJECTIONS CAN
3:54:30PM COME WITH IT, YES.
3:54:32PM FOR THE FUTURE, TO HAVE OUR CURRENT FY BUDGET WITH WHAT HAS

3:54:36PM BEEN SPENT, WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN EACH CATEGORY AND THE
3:54:39PM PROJECTIONS FOR HOW WE EXPECT TO PAY THIS GOING FORWARD.
3:54:43PM I'M SORRY.
3:54:46PM TO ADD MS. KOPESKY ON THAT AS WELL.
3:54:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
3:54:50PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
3:54:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:54:52PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:54:53PM WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM.
3:55:01PM THIS SHOULD BE CONTINUED TO NEXT MONTH.
3:55:04PM CAN WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM BEFORE THE BOARD DISCUSSES IT?
3:55:10PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE WERE GOING
3:55:12PM TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN JULY AS A PART -- WITH THE
3:55:16PM BUDGETARY CONVERSATIONS AS IT RELATES TO OTHER COMMERCIAL
3:55:19PM GRANTS AND PROJECTS.
3:55:22PM IF IT IS THE BOARD'S WILL --
3:55:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: LIKE I SAY, IT'S WITHIN OUR HANDS.
3:55:27PM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
3:55:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY REAL FAST, A
3:55:35PM MONTH AGO WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SPEND ANY OF
3:55:38PM THE EAST TAMPA CRA MONEY PAST SEPTEMBER.
3:55:41PM IF THAT WAS STILL TRUE, WE WOULD BE PUSHING EVERY PROJECT WE
3:55:45PM COULD THROUGH.
3:55:45PM THAT DYNAMIC HAS JUST SUDDENLY CHANGED IN THIS MEETING.
3:55:49PM IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING.

3:55:53PM BUT SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES DID CHANGE.
3:55:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BOARD.
3:55:58PM FINAL ITEM.
3:55:58PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
3:55:59PM AND HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TIMEWISE FOR THE
3:56:02PM PRESENTATION?
3:56:03PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: 15 MINUTES.
3:56:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT WE'LL GIVE YOU 10?
3:56:08PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THEN WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
3:56:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
3:56:13PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: NOT A PROBLEM.
3:56:15PM UNDERSTOOD.
3:56:15PM IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
3:56:17PM I'LL INVITE MS. REED UP TO DISCUSS OUR FEEDBACK OR YOUR
3:56:22PM FEEDBACK RELATED TO THE COMMERCIAL GRANTS POLICY.
3:56:31PM >>DEE REED: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
3:56:34PM DEE REED, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
3:56:36PM IN PREPARATION FOR THE POLICY UPDATE THAT WE WILL BE
3:56:39PM PRESENTING TO YOU IN JULY, THERE ARE FIVE GUIDELINES THAT WE
3:56:43PM WILL BE REQUESTING CLARIFICATION FROM THE BOARD SO THAT WE
3:56:46PM CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE APPLYING THE POLICY IN ALIGNMENT WITH
3:56:52PM THE INTENT OF THE BOARD.
3:56:54PM SO THOSE ITEMS ARE ESTABLISHING A TYPE OF ARCHITECTURAL AND
3:56:59PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION FEEDBACK DESIRED FOR BUILDINGS 50
3:57:03PM YEARS AND OLDER THAT ARE NOT ALREADY SUBJECT FOR HISTORIC

3:57:06PM REVIEW UNDER CITY CODE.
3:57:09PM DETERMINING WHETHER RESTAURANTS WHO HAVE CITY OR STATE
3:57:12PM PERMITS ALLOWING MORE THAN 50% OF THEIR REVENUE FROM ALCOHOL
3:57:16PM SALES SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR CRA GRANTS.
3:57:21PM DETERMINING IF BUSINESSES WHO PRIMARILY SELL ALCOHOL SHOULD
3:57:24PM BE ADDED TO THE LIST THAT ALREADY EXCLUDES BARS, LOUNGES,
3:57:28PM AND NIGHTCLUBS FROM GRANT ELIGIBILITY.
3:57:32PM DETERMINING WHETHER TO REVISE THE COMMERCIAL INTERIOR GRANT
3:57:37PM FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE, CHAPTER 163.
3:57:41PM AND DETERMINING THE GRANT REPAYMENT TERMS IN THE EVENT OF
3:57:45PM DEFAULT.
3:57:46PM IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, I'LL READ EACH GRANT GUIDELINE AS
3:57:52PM IT IS CURRENTLY WORDED IN THE POLICY AND STATE THE ORIGINAL
3:57:56PM INTENT BEHIND THE GUIDELINE.
3:57:58PM AT THAT TIME, I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR TO YOU FOR YOUR
3:58:01PM DISCUSSION AND VOTE.
3:58:02PM AFTER THAT VOTE, I'LL PROCEED TO THE NEXT GUIDELINE.
3:58:05PM GUIDELINE ONE, STRUCTURES EXCEEDING 50 YEARS OF AGE REQUIRE
3:58:14PM IMPROVEMENTS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL
3:58:17PM REVIEW AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF FIRST AN APPLICANT
3:58:23PM MUST COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
3:58:26PM PROVIDED.
3:58:27PM THE ORIGINAL INTENT IS TO INCENTIVIZE THE PRESERVATION OF
3:58:31PM THE COMMUNITY'S HERITAGE BY PREVENTING DEMOLITION OF
3:58:36PM SIGNIFICANT OLDER BUILDINGS THAT LACK HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

3:58:41PM THE QUESTION THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DISCUSSED AND VOTED, IS
3:58:45PM IT THE BOARD'S INTENT THAT STAFF PROCEED WITH THE
3:58:48PM ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW BUT LIMITED TO
3:58:53PM THE DETERMINATION OF RESTORATION AND RECONSTRUCTION?
3:59:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
3:59:04PM I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE BUILDING AND
3:59:12PM ALLOW PEOPLE TO FIX IT UP.
3:59:17PM I DON'T WANT TO INCENTIVIZE TEARING DOWN BUILDINGS.
3:59:22PM WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PROTECT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION WOULD
3:59:25PM BE WHAT I WOULD VOTE FOR.
3:59:26PM ARE WE DOING A VOTE FOR THIS?
3:59:30PM >>DEE REED: YOU'RE VOTING TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANT TO
3:59:32PM LIMIT THEIR REVIEW TO DETERMINING WHETHER THE BUILDING CAN
3:59:35PM BE DEMOLISHED OR IF IT HAS TO BE RESTORED OR IF WE WANT THEM
3:59:39PM TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF WHAT MATERIAL CAN BE USED,
3:59:43PM WHAT THE FINISH LOOKS LIKE, HOW DETAILED WE WANT TO REQUIRE
3:59:47PM THEM TO --
3:59:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE BUILDING
3:59:55PM ISN'T SALVAGEABLE?
3:59:56PM >>DEE REED: THEN THEY WOULD DETERMINE THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY
4:00:00PM FOR THEM TO DEMOLISH.
4:00:02PM THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS THAT RIGHT NOW, THE
4:00:05PM GUIDELINE DOES NOT SPECIFY THAT THEIR FEEDBACK IS LIMITED TO
4:00:09PM JUST THEIR DETERMINATION OF WHETHER IT CAN BE DEMOLISHED OR
4:00:13PM NOT.

4:00:13PM SO THEY ARE GOING FURTHER INTO A MORE DETAILED HISTORIC
4:00:16PM REVIEW AND WHERE THEY ARE GIVING GUIDELINES ON HOW THEY CAN
4:00:20PM IMPROVE THE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS, THE TYPE OF MATERIAL.
4:00:25PM WE'RE WANTING TO KNOW IF IT IS YOUR DESIRE FOR US TO LIMIT
4:00:28PM THEIR FEEDBACK TO JUST THE DETERMINATION OF DEMOLITION OR
4:00:33PM NOT.
4:00:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL DEFER TO SOME OF OUR HISTORICAL PEOPLE.
4:00:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU MIND IF
4:00:44PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO GOES BEFORE YOU?
4:00:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, HE CAN GO FIRST.
4:00:49PM I'LL GATHER MY THOUGHTS.
4:00:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS ALSO AN HISTORIC
4:00:56PM PRESERVATION PERSON.
4:01:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BUT I THINK IT
4:01:05PM IS A CITY PROCESS.
4:01:07PM THE CITY HAS STAFF THAT SPECIALIZE IN THAT.
4:01:12PM THE CRA SIMPLY SHOULD BE PROCESSING GRANTS AND NOT DOING
4:01:14PM THAT KIND OF EVALUATION.
4:01:16PM THE DECISION ON WHETHER TO KEEP A BUILDING OR NOT IS NOT A
4:01:19PM CRA ISSUE.
4:01:20PM THE QUESTION IS, ONCE IT'S DETERMINED THAT IT IS HISTORICAL
4:01:24PM BUILDING OR ONCE A DEVELOPER HAS DECIDED THAT IT IS AN
4:01:27PM HISTORICAL BUILDING, THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT
4:01:30PM TO FUND IT OR NOT AND WE CAN PUT A CLAUSE THAT SAYS IF THEY
4:01:34PM TEAR IT DOWN, WE WON'T FUND IT ANYMORE.

4:01:35PM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION GRANT WOULD BE FOR HISTORIC
4:01:38PM PRESERVATION BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION AS TO
4:01:41PM WHAT THE RULES ARE.
4:01:42PM OTHERWISE WE'D HAVE TO HIRE SPECIALIZED STAFF OR PUT A HUGE
4:01:46PM BURDEN ON OUR EXISTING STAFF.
4:01:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON BRINGS UP A GOOD
4:01:52PM POINT REGARDING CRA FUNDING SEPARATE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
4:01:57PM OUR OTHER ROLE AS CITY COUNCIL.
4:01:59PM THE THING WITH TAMPA AND MANY CITIES, POST URBAN RENEWAL, IS
4:02:06PM SO MUCH HAS BEEN LOST.
4:02:07PM I HAVE A MAGAZINE FROM 1963 IN MY OFFICE.
4:02:10PM A LIFE MAGAZINE, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE UPCOMING PROJECTS OF
4:02:13PM 1964 AND '65.
4:02:15PM THE HIGHWAYS, THE INTERSTATES, THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
4:02:18PM DEMOLISHED FOR PARKING LOTS OR WILL BE DEMOLISHED.
4:02:22PM WE'VE DONE A HORRIBLE JOB.
4:02:24PM I DON'T KNOW IF IN THIS COUNTRY, IF WE HAVE ANY UNESCO
4:02:30PM HERITAGE SITES, I DON'T KNOW.
4:02:32PM BUT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD, THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE
4:02:35PM TOTALLY PRESERVED.
4:02:35PM THE BEST THAT WE HAVE IS YBOR CITY AND THEN THE WEST TAMPA
4:02:39PM HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS 800 HISTORIC BUILDINGS WITHIN
4:02:42PM THE BOUNDARIES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
4:02:44PM IT'S ON WIKIPEDIA.
4:02:46PM IT'S EASY TO FIND.

4:02:47PM THE THING IS, THERE IS THE TERM DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.
4:02:53PM I THINK IT IS ABUSED GOING, OH, I HAD A FORMER CITY OF TAMPA
4:03:00PM ELECTED OFFICIAL FROM A LONG TIME AGO.
4:03:01PM I GO, YOU WERE IN LEADER -- IF I GET TOO SPECIFIC, IT WILL
4:03:06PM GIVE AWAY HIS IDENTITY -- I GO YOU WERE IN LEADERSHIP WHEN
4:03:09PM THIS WAS KNOCKED DOWN.
4:03:10PM HE TELLS ME, IT WAS MORE EXPENSIVE TO PUT A ROOF ON IT THAN
4:03:14PM WHAT THE BUILDING WAS WORTH AND WE NEEDED THE PARKING FOR
4:03:16PM IT.
4:03:17PM THE PARKING FOR MORE VALUABLE.
4:03:19PM EVEN HERE, CATTY-CORNER, BEAUTIFUL HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET
4:03:25PM AND IT WAS DEMOLISHED IN THE LATE '60s.
4:03:29PM ANYWAYS, I REMEMBER MEETING A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS ABLE TO
4:03:31PM RESTORE HISTORIC BRICK BUILDING AND REPURPOSE IT HERE ON
4:03:35PM FRANKLIN STREET.
4:03:36PM IT'S THERE TODAY.
4:03:37PM THE BUILDINGS AROUND IT BURNED.
4:03:39PM THEY WERE DEMOLISHED.
4:03:40PM THERE'S NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE TODAY, BUT AGAINST ALL ODDS,
4:03:45PM HE WANTED A BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
4:03:47PM AND AGAINST EVERYBODY'S OPINION THAT DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT,
4:03:53PM HE FOUND AN ENGINEER THAT WAS WILLING TO SAVE THE BUILDING.
4:03:55PM THE EXTERIOR IS BRICK AND HE BUILT A NEW BUILDING WITHIN THE
4:03:59PM BUILDING.
4:03:59PM BUT THE FACADE IS ORIGINAL AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT USED TO BE.

4:04:04PM LONG STORY SHORT, I DON'T THINK ENOUGH OF AN EMPHASIS IS PUT
4:04:07PM ON PRESERVATION.
4:04:09PM IT'S ALWAYS, WELL, WE TRIED TO FIX IT BUT COST PROHIBITIVE.
4:04:13PM WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAYS ABOUT KEEPING IT SEPARATE,
4:04:16PM WE'RE HERE TO APPROVE GRANTS.
4:04:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
4:04:20PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:04:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DOES THAT PROVIDE ANY CLARIFICATION?
4:04:24PM I DIDN'T THINK SO.
4:04:27PM NO, NO, BUT, NO, BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I'M STILL NOT
4:04:34PM UNDERSTANDING, CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE?
4:04:38PM >>DEE REED: MAYBE I CAN CLARIFY.
4:04:39PM THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER -- THE CITY'S HISTORIC,
4:04:43PM ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORIC REVIEW, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE
4:04:45PM THE DECISION AS TO WHETHER THE BUILDING CAN BE DEMOLISHED OR
4:04:50PM NOT.
4:04:50PM THAT'S NOT WHAT IS IN QUESTION.
4:04:51PM WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS WHETHER WE WANT TO LIMIT THE REVIEW TO
4:04:54PM THAT DECISION.
4:04:58PM AS IT STANDS, THESE PROPERTIES DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT
4:05:01PM REVIEW.
4:05:02PM THEY CAN MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE
4:05:05PM REVIEW BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC AND NOT
4:05:08PM IN HISTORIC DISTRICT.
4:05:10PM THEY CAN IMPROVE THE PROPERTIES WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE

4:05:15PM REVIEW.
4:05:16PM AS IT STANDS, OUR FUNDS HAVE BEEN TIED TO THIS REVIEW IN AN
4:05:21PM ATTEMPT TO TRY TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF THESE DISTRICTS.
4:05:26PM SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS BEYOND THE DEMOLITION QUESTION,
4:05:31PM WHICH THAT'S NOT WHAT IS IN QUESTION, DO WE WANT TO ALLOW
4:05:35PM THEM TO SPECIFY WHAT KINDS OF MATERIAL CAN BE USED?
4:05:37PM HOW THEY CAN IMPROVE THE PROPERTY.
4:05:42PM DO WE WANT THEIR REVIEW TO BE ALLOWED TO GO THAT DEEP OR
4:05:46PM THAT LEVEL OF REVIEW?
4:05:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE, THE GATOR
4:05:50PM BUILDING.
4:05:51PM IF WE HAD THE GATOR BUILDING AND THEY CAME -- AND SOMEONE
4:05:54PM CAME TO US, SAID IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND CAME TO US AND
4:05:57PM SAID WE WANT TO IMPROVE THIS.
4:05:59PM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THEY WOULD SAY, NO, IT'S NOT
4:06:02PM DEMOLITION WORTHY.
4:06:05PM SO IN FIXING THIS UP, YOU WOULD NEED TO MAINTAIN --
4:06:11PM >>DEE REED: PRESERVE THE BUILDING.
4:06:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU WOULD NEED TO PRESERVE IT.
4:06:18PM >>DEE REED: IF THEIR REVIEW FINDINGS ARE THEY CANNOT
4:06:21PM DEMOLISH THE BUILDING, IF THEY DON'T AGREE TO PRESERVE THE
4:06:24PM BUILDING, THEY CANNOT GET CRA FUNDS.
4:06:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN SOME CASES, IT MAY NOT BE WORTH SAVING.
4:06:33PM BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT MAKES THAT
4:06:36PM DETERMINATION, I GUESS.

4:06:37PM SAY THEY DECIDED THE GATOR BUILDING WAS HISTORIC -- I'M
4:06:45PM STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS -- AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION
4:06:51PM SAID IT NEEDED TO BE PRESERVED, WE WOULD ONLY GIVE MONEY --
4:06:58PM SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS, IF WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN
4:07:01PM ONLY USE CONCRETE BLOCK SINCE IT WAS BUILT WITH CONCRETE
4:07:05PM BLOCK.
4:07:05PM >>DEE REED: RIGHT.
4:07:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK
4:07:12PM AGAIN?
4:07:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK THAT DECISION
4:07:16PM SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO WHATEVER THE GOVERNING BODY IS, THE ARC
4:07:23PM OR THE BARRIO.
4:07:24PM IF IT'S IN ANOTHER AREA, IF THE CITY OR SOME OTHER AGENCY
4:07:28PM WANTS TO DO THAT, THEY CAN.
4:07:29PM BUT I DON'T THINK THE STAFF, UNLESS WE HAVE SPECIALIZED
4:07:32PM STAFF, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.
4:07:33PM REMEMBER CHAIR HENDERSON WAS ASKING ABOUT THE WINDOWS,
4:07:38PM ALUMINUM VERSUS WOODEN ONES, BIG ISSUE IN THE HISTORIC
4:07:42PM PLACES, THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT I THINK WE WOULD
4:07:44PM REIMBURSE FOR WINDOWS.
4:07:46PM >>DEE REED: CORRECT.
4:07:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE DON'T HAVE -- WE CAN'T AFFORD THE STAFF
4:07:50PM TIME TO GO THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT'S ALUMINUM
4:07:53PM WINDOWS.
4:07:53PM THAT'S UP TO THE ARC OR BARRIO TO FIGURE OUT.

4:07:57PM WHERE SALCINES PARK IS, THE FAMILY BUILDING WAS THERE, I'M
4:08:02PM TOLD BY PEOPLE IN THE '70s, THE REASON WHY IT WAS TORN
4:08:06PM DOWN IS BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE THE CITY I THINK
4:08:09PM A $20,000 GRANT FOR PARKS.
4:08:13PM THERE WERE GRANTS FOR PARKS BUT NOT FOR HISTORIC
4:08:16PM PRESERVATION.
4:08:16PM THE POINT IN THAT IS IF WE HAVE A GRANT FOR HISTORIC
4:08:19PM PRESERVATION, IT HELPS TO PRESERVE MORE BUILDINGS EVEN IF
4:08:22PM THEY ARE NOT IN ONE OF THESE PROTECTED AREAS.
4:08:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:08:26PM BOARD MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION?
4:08:31PM >>DEE REED: THAT HELPS, YES.
4:08:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT HELPS?
4:08:34PM >>DEE REED: YES.
4:08:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE CONSENSUS?
4:08:37PM >>DEE REED: MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO
4:08:40PM SPECIFY THE MATERIALS OR EXACTLY HOW THEY HAVE TO PRESERVE
4:08:44PM IT.
4:08:45PM IF THE DECISION IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED, THEN THEY
4:08:49PM PRESERVE THE BUILDING IF THEY HAVE THE PERMISSION TO
4:08:52PM DEMOLISH AND RECONSTRUCT, THEN THEY CAN DO SO.
4:08:55PM BUT WE RESTRICT TO THAT EXTENT.
4:08:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS?
4:09:04PM >>DEE REED: WE NEED A VOTE.
4:09:06PM IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.

4:09:08PM DO WE NEED AN OFFICIAL VOTE?
4:09:11PM YES, WE NEED A VOTE.
4:09:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU CLARIFY HOW YOU WANT US TO SAY THAT?
4:09:20PM >>DEE REED: WE WOULD LIKE TO -- IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE
4:09:28PM BOARD TO INCENTIVIZE IMPROVEMENTS FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE 50
4:09:34PM YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER TO LIMIT THE ARCHITECTURAL AND
4:09:39PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW TO THE DETERMINATION OF
4:09:42PM RESTORATION OR RECONSTRUCTION.
4:09:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE THAT.
4:09:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:09:48PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:09:49PM THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR?
4:09:51PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:09:52PM OKAY.
4:09:55PM THIS TAKES CARE OF THIS ITEM.
4:10:02PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:10:06PM >>DEE REED: THE SECOND GUIDELINE, AS IT READS TODAY, BARS,
4:10:11PM LOUNGES, NIGHTCLUBS, AND RESTAURANTS DERIVING MORE THAN 50%
4:10:14PM OF THEIR INCOME FROM THE SALE OF ALCOHOL ARE INELIGIBLE FOR
4:10:18PM CRA GRANTS.
4:10:19PM THE INTENT IS TO LIMIT SUPPORT OF BUSINESS CATEGORIES THAT
4:10:26PM COMMONLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONDITIONS OF SLUM AND BLIGHT
4:10:29PM WHILE ALSO INCENTIVIZING MORE DIVERSE, UNIQUE, AND
4:10:32PM SPECIALIZED BUSINESSES.
4:10:33PM THE NEXT TWO QUESTIONS WILL RELATE TO THE SAME GUIDELINE.

4:10:38PM QUESTION ONE FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE IS, IS THE BOARD'S
4:10:43PM INTENT THAT STAFF REMOVE RESTAURANTS DERIVING MORE THAN 50%
4:10:48PM OF THEIR INCOME FROM THE SALE OF ALCOHOL FROM THE LIST OF
4:10:53PM INELIGIBLE ESTABLISHMENTS.
4:10:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
4:10:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR ME, A LEGAL BUSINESS IS A LEGAL
4:11:00PM BUSINESS.
4:11:01PM AND IF THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS LEGALLY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
4:11:05PM AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESTORATION OF FACADES, FACADE
4:11:09PM GRANTS, REGARDLESS OF THAT BUSINESS, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO
4:11:12PM BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS GRANT.
4:11:14PM THAT'S KIND OF LIKE -- BLUE LAWS BACK IN THE DAY, 1960'S
4:11:21PM BLUE LAWS.
4:11:22PM I THINK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WE'VE MOVED PAST THAT.
4:11:24PM IF A BUSINESS IS LEGAL, THEY SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE
4:11:27PM FACADE GRANTS.
4:11:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SAY THE MOTION WOULD BE TO
4:11:30PM REMOVE THAT STIPULATION OF THE 50% ALCOHOL SALES, REMOVE
4:11:34PM THEM FROM THE PROHIBITED LIST TO ALLOW --
4:11:37PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:11:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING.
4:11:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION.
4:11:42PM DO I HAVE A SECOND?
4:11:43PM MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:11:46PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.

4:11:49PM ANY DISCUSSION?
4:11:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION IS -- [INAUDIBLE] FACADE GRANT IS
4:11:55PM FACADE GRANT.
4:12:01PM >>DEE REED: WE CANNOT REMOVE THAT RESTRICTION COMPLETELY
4:12:03PM BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THE EAST TAMPA CRP.
4:12:05PM SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS TO REMOVE THE RESTAURANTS THAT
4:12:09PM DERIVE MORE THAN 50% OF THEIR INCOME.
4:12:14PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:12:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT BARS DO CONTRIBUTE TO SLUM AND
4:12:25PM BLIGHT.
4:12:25PM I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
4:12:27PM DO YOU WANT TO GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE?
4:12:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE BUILDING, NOT THE BUSINESS.
4:12:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER BIG ISSUE IT BRINGS UP IS TEN
4:12:38PM YEARS FROM NOW, HOW DO WE POLICE WHAT THEY USE A BUILDING
4:12:40PM FOR?
4:12:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT BY THEN THEY HAVE ALREADY BEAUTIFIED THE
4:12:45PM OUTSIDE.
4:12:46PM AND THE OUTSIDE IS WHAT IS GOING TO BRING MORE -- HONESTLY,
4:12:51PM A COAT OF PAINT AND A NEW SIGN CAN DO WONDERS FOR A FULL
4:12:55PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:12:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
4:13:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: EXTERIOR GRANTS, NOT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
4:13:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, NO.
4:13:05PM WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT EXTERIOR GRANTS.

4:13:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M OKAY WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUT NOT
4:13:10PM EXTERIOR GRANTS.
4:13:10PM MAYBE WHEN VIERA COMES BACK WE'LL HAVE THE VOTES.
4:13:18PM >>DEE REED: THE NEXT GUIDELINE IS -- WELL, THE NEXT ITEM IS
4:13:22PM THE COMMERCIAL INTERIOR GRANT.
4:13:24PM THE INTENT, ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO STIPULATE PRIVATE
4:13:29PM INVESTMENT AND REACTIVATE UNDERUTILIZED COMMERCIAL SPACES BY
4:13:33PM OFFSETTING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH TENANT CONVERSION AND
4:13:37PM IMPROVEMENTS.
4:13:38PM THE QUESTION FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE, IS THE BOARD'S INTENT
4:13:43PM THAT STAFF PROCEED WITH REVISING THE COMMERCIAL INTERIOR
4:13:47PM GRANT TO LIMIT REIMBURSABLE IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE SUPPORTING
4:13:50PM BUILDING CODE COMPLIANCE TO ALIGN WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE
4:13:54PM CHAPTER 163?
4:13:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD SAY YES.
4:13:59PM I THINK HELPING A BUILDING BECOME COMPLIANT SO THAT THEY CAN
4:14:05PM HAVE A TENANT IS HUNDRED PERCENT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS
4:14:10PM A CRA BOARD.
4:14:11PM >> SECOND.
4:14:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECT?
4:14:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:14:18PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
4:14:19PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:14:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:14:21PM ANY OPPOSED?

4:14:22PM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, I APOLOGIZE, HAD I TO STEP OUTSIDE
4:14:26PM FOR SOMETHING, THAT WE HAD A 3-1 VOTE, CORRECT?
4:14:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DIDN'T TAKE A VOTE.
4:14:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN.
4:14:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: DOES ANYONE WANT TO RESTATE THE MOTION?
4:14:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION WAS TO STRIKE THE PROHIBITION
4:14:42PM FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF THE 50% FOR RESTAURANTS REGARDING TO
4:14:48PM RECEIVING FUNDING, EXTERIOR FACADE GRANTS.
4:14:55PM >>DEE REED: THIS IS FOR GRANTS PERIOD.
4:14:56PM RESTAURANTS THAT DERIVE MORE THAN 50% OF THEIR INCOME,
4:15:00PM REMOVING THEM FROM THE PROHIBITION OF RECEIVING CRA GRANTS.
4:15:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
4:15:07PM >>DEE REED: THIS IS GRANTS PERIOD.
4:15:08PM CRA GRANTS.
4:15:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FACADE
4:15:14PM GRANTS.
4:15:14PM >>DEE REED: THIS IS POLICY ACROSS THE BOARD.
4:15:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
4:15:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHO SECONDED THAT?
4:15:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS?
4:15:26PM >>DEE REED: THESE ARE NOT ITEMS -- BECAUSE OUR GOAL -- OUR
4:15:30PM JOB IS TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE BOARD'S DESIRE IS.
4:15:34PM WE DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
4:15:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE A FEELING FROM STAFF ABOUT
4:15:38PM WHAT THE REAL-WORLD IMPLICATIONS OF THIS ARE?

4:15:41PM >>DEE REED: WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY ONLINE.
4:15:43PM WE CAN DEFER TO ATTORNEY SHEPHARD.
4:15:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE WOULD GIVE US A LEGAL OPINION.
4:15:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE HELPFUL.
4:15:54PM >> CARMINE'S RESTAURANT IN YBOR CITY WAS DENIED BECAUSE THEY
4:15:57PM DIDN'T FIT BECAUSE OF THIS RULE.
4:16:03PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:16:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:16:09PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
4:16:10PM THERE BEING NO FURTHER APPARENT DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR?
4:16:14PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:16:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: NAY.
4:16:23PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON STATING NO AND
4:16:26PM MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
4:16:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
4:16:31PM >>DEE REED: THE SECOND QUESTION FOR THAT SAME GUIDELINE IS,
4:16:37PM IS IT THE BOARD'S INTENT THAT STAFF INCLUDE LIQUOR STORES,
4:16:42PM BEER AND WINE RETAILERS, BREWERIES AND OTHER RETAILER
4:16:46PM BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON ALCOHOL BEVERAGE
4:16:49PM SALES TO THE LIST OF INELIGIBLE ESTABLISHMENTS?
4:16:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR GRANT PERIOD.
4:16:57PM >>DEE REED: CORRECT.
4:16:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS?
4:17:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD JUST MAKE IT TO
4:17:05PM SUPPORT EXTERIOR GRANTS?

4:17:07PM BECAUSE TO ME, A LIQUOR STORE IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM A
4:17:15PM BREWERY.
4:17:18PM LIKE, SOMEONE --
4:17:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE] STILL SUPPORT IT IF THEY WERE
4:17:23PM BEAUTIFYING THE BUILDING.
4:17:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THERE WAS A WAY --
4:17:28PM >>DEE REED: CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
4:17:29PM THE ONLY OTHER GRANT THAT REALLY -- WELL, OTHER THAN
4:17:33PM PREDEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE INTERIOR GRANT,
4:17:37PM AND WE JUST VOTED TO REVISE THE INTERIOR GRANT SO THAT WE'RE
4:17:43PM ONLY BRINGING BUILDINGS UP TO CODE.
4:17:44PM IF OUR INTENT, AS WE MENTIONED, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THE
4:17:49PM BUILDING TO CODE AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE THE
4:17:51PM BUILDING, NO MATTER WHAT BUSINESS IS THERE, IT'S A LEGAL
4:17:56PM BUSINESS.
4:17:56PM I THINK IF YOU APPLY THE SAME CONCEPT.
4:17:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE TO SUPPORT IT JUST BASED ON THE
4:18:02PM BLACK-AND-WHITE LETTER OF LAW IN THAT REGARD.
4:18:07PM I STILL BELIEVE THAT IF SOMEONE IS PUTTING TIME AND MONEY
4:18:11PM INTO A PROPERTY, IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:18:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL SECOND THAT.
4:18:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY MOTION IS, YES, THAT I WOULD SUPPORT
4:18:27PM STRIKING.
4:18:28PM >>DEE REED: NOT ADDING THOSE USES.
4:18:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.

4:18:33PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:18:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU REPEAT?
4:18:38PM >>DEE REED: IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR MOTION IS TO NOT ADD LIQUOR
4:18:45PM STORES, BEER AND WINE RETAILERS, BREWERIES, AND OTHER RETAIL
4:18:49PM BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
4:18:53PM SALES TO THE LIST OF INELIGIBLE ESTABLISHMENTS.
4:18:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:18:57PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
4:18:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:19:01PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:19:02PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:19:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THESE ARE GUIDELINES,
4:19:09PM AND THIS BOARD CAN CHANGE THOSE GUIDELINES AT ANY POINT.
4:19:13PM I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON -- I THINK THAT'S REALLY
4:19:19PM IMPORTANT TO STATE.
4:19:20PM WHILE WE CAN BE A LITTLE CONCERNED, IF THERE BECOMES A
4:19:24PM PROBLEM, IF A NEIGHBORHOOD REGRESSES, WE CAN REVISIT.
4:19:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:19:34PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:19:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:19:36PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:19:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: NAY.
4:19:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW MANY MORE DO WE HAVE, MA'AM?
4:19:41PM >>DEE REED: JUST ONE MORE.
4:19:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: GO FOR IT.

4:19:43PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON STATING NO AND
4:19:48PM MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
4:19:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
4:19:51PM NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
4:19:55PM >>DEE REED: WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SPECIAL PROJECTS GRANT IN
4:19:59PM THE EVENT THE PROPERTY IS SOLD OR TRANSFERRED TO A PROPERTY,
4:20:06PM TAX-EXEMPT GOVERNMENTAL, OR -- SORRY, OR NOT FOR PROFIT
4:20:11PM ENTITY WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF THE DISBURSEMENT OF GRANT FUNDS,
4:20:14PM THE GRANT RECIPIENT WILL REIMBURSE THE TCRA, A PRO RATA
4:20:20PM PORTION OF THE GRANT FOR THE NUMBER OF MONTHS REMAINING IN
4:20:23PM THE FIVE-YEAR TERM.
4:20:25PM THE INTENT WAS TO ENFORCE RETENTION AND MAINTENANCE OF
4:20:29PM IMPROVEMENTS FUNDED WITH CRA RESOURCES.
4:20:31PM THE QUESTION FOR THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE IS, IS IT
4:20:36PM THE BOARD'S INTENT TO REMOVE THE PRORATION LANGUAGE FROM THE
4:20:41PM REPAYMENT REQUIREMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESTRICTIVE
4:20:44PM COVENANTS?
4:20:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT, THEY HAVE TO
4:20:49PM PAY ALL OF THE MONEY BACK.
4:20:51PM >>DEE REED: CORRECT.
4:20:52PM WITHIN THE RESTRICTED PERIOD.
4:20:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: QUITE FRANKLY, IN FIVE YEARS, YES, I WANT
4:20:57PM THAT MONEY BACK.
4:20:58PM FIVE YEARS?
4:21:01PM TEN YEARS, SURE, WE CAN TALK PRORATION.

4:21:05PM FIVE YEARS, THAT'S WAY TOO LITTLE.
4:21:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
4:21:09PM >>DEE REED: CLARIFY, ANYTHING OVER 150,000 DOES GET A
4:21:12PM TEN-YEAR RESTRICTION.
4:21:13PM IF WE WANT TO SEPARATE THAT, WE CAN DO THAT.
4:21:16PM I JUST NEED TO KNOW.
4:21:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT IS FINE.
4:21:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
4:21:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AFTER FIVE YEARS PRORATE WOULD BE JUST
4:21:24PM OVERALL.
4:21:24PM I THINK FIVE YEARS SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM.
4:21:29PM IF WE'RE DOING THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, WE SHOULD
4:21:32PM ABSOLUTELY BE DOING IT FOR COMMERCIAL.
4:21:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A MOTION IN THAT REGARD?
4:21:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW WOULD YOU LIKE US TO WORD THAT MOTION?
4:21:39PM >>DEE REED: YOU COULD SAY, TO REMOVE THE PRORATION LANGUAGE
4:21:45PM FROM THE REPAYMENT REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
4:21:48PM RESTRICTED COVENANTS FOR THE FIVE -- FROM THE FIVE-YEAR
4:21:51PM RESTRICTED COVENANTS ONLY.
4:21:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
4:21:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:21:57PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:22:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN WE PASSED THIS LANGUAGE, HOW DOES
4:22:04PM THAT IMPACT THE TEN-YEAR?
4:22:05PM IS THE TEN-YEAR PRORATED AFTER FIVE?

4:22:08PM >>DEE REED: TEN-YEAR RESTRICTED -- OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE
4:22:11PM SAYING.
4:22:11PM IF WE KEEP THE PRORATION IN THE TEN YEAR, FOR THE FIRST, IF
4:22:16PM THEY SELL WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, IT'S NOT PRORATED.
4:22:20PM FROM YEARS FIVE THROUGH TEN IT WOULD BE PRORATED.
4:22:24PM WE JUST NEED TO REVISE THAT WORDING IN THE AGREEMENT.
4:22:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
4:22:30PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, DO YOU WISH -- RESTATE IT FOR BOARD
4:22:33PM MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:22:34PM THANK YOU, SIR.
4:22:36PM JUST MAKING SURE.
4:22:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:22:38PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:22:39PM OKAY.
4:22:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:22:45PM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
4:22:45PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
4:22:49PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:22:49PM ANYTHING ELSE, MR. McCRAY FOR TODAY?
4:22:52PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: VERY BRIEFLY FOR THE RECORD, I DID HAND THE
4:22:55PM CLERK 71 LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE PRESENTATION OF THE
4:23:01PM PRESENTER FROM URBAN REWORX.
4:23:03PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS REFLECTED IN THE RECORD.
4:23:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
4:23:06PM WE APPRECIATE YOU.

4:23:07PM WE APPRECIATE ALL OF STAFF'S DILIGENCE AND PATIENCE TODAY.
4:23:12PM GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
4:23:13PM WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
4:23:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
4:23:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO THIS JOB PERMANENTLY.
4:23:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUOTE BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, YOU WERE BORN
4:23:26PM TO RUN.
4:23:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, BOARD MEMBERS, MOTIONS, BOARD MEMBER
4:23:31PM CARLSON.
4:23:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
4:23:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, VERY QUICKLY.
4:23:35PM I WOULD ASK THAT CRA STAFF WORK WITH PARKS AND REC ON
4:23:38PM DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURES AT BORRELL PARK CLOSE TO
4:23:43PM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
4:23:44PM I'D LIKE A WRITTEN REPORT BY JULY 24.
4:23:47PM IF THAT IS TOO SOON, I'M ALSO AMENABLE TO AUGUST 21st.
4:23:51PM WOULD YOU PREFER?
4:23:52PM AUGUST 21st OF 2025.
4:23:59PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE.
4:24:01PM PARKS AND REC IDEALLY WOULD HAVE SOMETHING, BUT WE WANT
4:24:04PM THOSE STRUCTURES DOWN SOON.
4:24:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:24:10PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:24:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:24:12PM ANY OPPOSED?

4:24:12PM ANY DISCUSSION?
4:24:14PM TOO LATE.
4:24:15PM ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
4:24:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
4:24:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SO SORRY.
4:24:20PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: BOARD MEMBER VIERA, I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE
4:24:22PM HAD A MOTION.
4:24:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: I GO LAST.
4:24:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:24:30PM FIRST, HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO THE FATHERS.
4:24:32PM I SEE A COUPLE UP HERE AND IN THE AUDIENCE.
4:24:36PM HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO YOU.
4:24:37PM MY FIRST MOTION, I SPOKE WITH MR. McCRAY, SPOKE WITH THE
4:24:41PM FOLKS FROM HOPE WHICH I KNOW WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
4:24:44PM THIS IS REGARDS TO CONTINUING THE COMMITMENT I MADE TO THE
4:24:48PM STORMWATER PONDS IN EAST TAMPA.
4:24:49PM I'D LIKE TO ALLOCATE $500,000 IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET FROM
4:24:53PM THE EAST TAMPA CRA TO GO TOWARDS THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE
4:24:58PM WILLIAMS STREET POND, CHELSEA STREET POND, BAY STREET POND,
4:25:04PM AND THEN THE 40th STREET AND 19th AVENUE PONDS.
4:25:08PM THEY ARE BOTH ON EACH SIDE OF 40th.
4:25:10PM I CHECKED WITH MR. McCRAY ABOUT MONEY FUNDING.
4:25:14PM I'VE SPOKEN TO HOPE.
4:25:16PM JUST SO WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON THESE COMMITMENTS AND TAKE IT
4:25:19PM FROM THERE.

4:25:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:25:22PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:25:26PM ANY DISCUSSION?
4:25:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLARIFICATION, AS ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THE
4:25:34PM BUDGET AND --
4:25:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, I CLEARED IT WITH MR. McCRAY.
4:25:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
4:25:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:25:39PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:25:40PM ANYTHING ELSE?
4:25:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE MORE ITEM, FRED HEARNS WAS HERE THIS
4:25:45PM MORNING.
4:25:45PM HE HAD MENTIONED AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS IS THE FIRST
4:25:49PM I'VE HEARD OF IT, REGARDING BUILDING AN AMPHITHEATER OR LIKE
4:25:53PM A BAND SHELL AT PERRY HARVEY PARK.
4:25:55PM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER,
4:25:59PM BOARD MEMBER HENDERSON WAS WORKING ON, BUT I MENTIONED IT
4:26:02PM BRIEFLY TO MR. McCRAY.
4:26:03PM IF I COULD JUST HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT TO SEE -- HE'S GOT TO
4:26:08PM TALK TO TONY MULKEY AND EVERYTHING.
4:26:11PM SINCE IT IS WITHIN THE ENCORE CRA, ESSENTIALLY, IF WE COULD
4:26:15PM GET A WRITTEN REPORT ON NOVEMBER 13, I HOPE THAT IS ENOUGH
4:26:19PM TIME.
4:26:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
4:26:21PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.

4:26:23PM I WASN'T GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE I'M HERE FOR ANOTHER YEAR
4:26:26PM AND A HALF.
4:26:26PM I SUGGEST SOMEONE DO IT.
4:26:28PM GLAD YOU ARE.
4:26:29PM IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ADDITION PROSPECTIVELY TO THE PARK
4:26:33PM WHICH IS A SPECIAL PARK.
4:26:34PM MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER
4:26:36PM MIRANDA.
4:26:37PM ANY DISCUSSION?
4:26:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:26:39PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:26:40PM THANK YOU.
4:26:42PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
4:26:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, THANK YOU.
4:26:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:26:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
4:26:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY BRIEFLY, MR. McCRAY HAD HANDED ME A
4:26:53PM REPORT FOR $135,532.21 FOR THE DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE
4:26:58PM IMPROVEMENTS AT WATER WORKS PARK.
4:27:02PM THEREFORE HE WISHES FOR ME TO MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO --
4:27:07PM WOULD IT BE TO APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS?
4:27:11PM >> YES.
4:27:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FROM WHICH CRA.
4:27:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS TAMPA HEIGHTS.
4:27:15PM >> YES, IT IS.

4:27:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: FROM THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CRA.
4:27:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE-CHAIR VIERA AND
4:27:23PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
4:27:26PM ANY COMMENTS?
4:27:28PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:27:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:27:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
4:27:35PM I HAD ANOTHER MOTION I WOULD MAKE.
4:27:37PM SAVE IT FOR NEXT MONTH.
4:27:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
4:27:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY MANISCALCO AND SECOND BY CARLSON?
4:27:43PM ALL IN FAVOR.
4:27:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:27:45PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:27:45PM WE'LL SEE YOU IN SIX MINUTES.
4:27:50PM >> YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME.
4:27:51PM 32 MINUTES.

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