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THURSDAY, JUNE 12, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:03:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
CRA IS CALLED INTO SESSION.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE HERE TODAY, EVERYONE, ON A VERY, VERY
SOLEMN DAY FOR THE PASSING OF OUR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE,
COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON, WHO WILL BE SO TREMENDOUSLY
MISSED.
SUCH A SPECIAL PERSON.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE FIRST SIGNIFICANT PART OF TODAY TO
PAY TRIBUTE TO THIS WONDERFUL WOMAN, A VERY, VERY SPECIAL
WOMAN.
IF I MAY, WE'LL START WITH OUR FRIEND, COUNCILWOMAN LYNN
HURTAK, WHO WILL INTRODUCE BISHOP SCOTT WHO WILL BE DOING
THE OPENING PRAYER.
9:03:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
WE ARE ALL SHOCKED AND SADDENED BY THE LOSS OF COUNCIL
MEMBER HENDERSON.
WHILE WE ARE ALL PROCESSING HER PASSING, WE THOUGHT THAT
BISHOP SCOTT'S EXPERIENCE AS A FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER
AND PERSONAL FRIEND TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON MADE HIM

UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO OFFER THE INVOCATION TODAY.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
PLEDGE.
9:04:21AM >> THANK YOU. THIS MORNING, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND TO ALL
OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
COME AND LEAD IN PRAYER.
AND THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME OF REMEMBERING A GREAT WOMAN IN
THIS COMMUNITY.
TODAY, WE PAUSE AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE SUDDEN PASSING OF
COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON, A DEDICATED PUBLIC
SERVANT, A CHERISHED LEADER IN OUR CITY.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON LIVED A LIFE OF PURPOSE, PASSION, AND
DEEP COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE IN HER DISTRICT AND TO THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
SHE WAS A TIRELESS ADVOCATE FOR EDUCATION, EQUITY, AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
HER VOICE UPLIFTED OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CITY, THE DISTRICT IN
WHICH SHE SERVED AND HER SPIRIT BROUGHT ABOUT A LIGHT THAT
EVERY SPACE THAT WAS EMPTY OR FOUND DARKNESS.
TODAY, MAY HER LEGACY AS AN EDUCATOR, AS A COMMUNITY
ACTIVIST, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL CONTINUE TO LIVE ON AND
INSPIRE GENERATIONS TO COME.
LET US JOIN NOW IN PRAYER FOR THE WORD OF GOD INSTRUCTS US
IT IS IN TIMES LIKE THESE THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND
BRING OUR CARES, OUR BURDENS, OUR SORROWS AND OUR PAINS TO

HIM.
HE SAID IF WE CAST ALL OUR CARES ON HIM, HE CARES FOR US AND
HE LOVES US.
SO TODAY, COUNCIL, AS WE PRAY, WE PRAY FOR HER FAMILY.
WE PRAY FOR YOU, FOR YOU HAVE LOST A COLLEAGUE AND YOU TOO
ARE MOURNING.
YOU TOO ARE GRIEVING.
THIS CITY IS GRIEVING BECAUSE OF A GREAT INDIVIDUAL.
NOW, LORD, WE PAUSE TO SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, FIRST OF ALL.
YOUR GRACE, YOUR LOVE, AND YOUR MERCY.
AND THEN WE THANK YOU FOR THE LIFE OF COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN
HENDERSON.
SHORT, LORD, YET IMPACTFUL.
TOUCH SO MANY LIVES.
TOUCH THE LIVES OF CHILDREN.
TOUCH THE LIVES OF THOSE IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND WE REFLECT UPON HER LIFE AND HER MEMORY TODAY, AND WE
KNOW THAT SHE IS AT REST.
SHE'S WITH YOU, AND WE THANK YOU.
WE PRAY FOR HER FAMILY TODAY.
WE PRAY FOR HER DAUGHTER TODAY.
I PRAY THAT YOU BRING ABOUT PEACE AND CALMNESS IN THE MIDST
OF THE PAIN THAT THEY ARE ENDURING EVEN NOW.
BUT I'M SO GLAD THAT YOUR WORD SAYS, I WALK THROUGH THE

VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH I FEAR NO EVIL BECAUSE THOU
ARE WITH ME.
ROD AND STAFF SHALL COMFORT ME.
SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMFORT TODAY, AND WE THANK YOU FOR
THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY, EMBRACE THEM.
LIFT THEM, CONSOLE THEM, INSPIRE THEM TO MOVE FORWARD IN
YOUR GRACE AND IN YOUR LOVE AS THEY TOO WALK THROUGH THIS
TIME OF GRIEF.
BLESS OUR CITY, BLESS OUR NATION, BLESS THOSE WHO SERVE AND
PROTECT US.
WE SHALL ALWAYS GIVE YOUR NAME GLORY AND PRAISE AND HONOR.
IN YOUR GREAT NAME THAT WE DO PRAY, AMEN.
9:07:29AM >>LUIS VIERA:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:07:51AM >>THE CLERK:
MIRANDA?
9:07:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:07:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:07:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:07:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:07:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:07:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:08:00AM >> HENDERSON.
9:08:03AM >> PRESENT.
9:08:04AM >> PRESENT.

9:08:04AM >> PRESENT.
9:08:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR THAT.
NEXT, WE HAVE A VIDEO THAT'S GOING TO REMEMBER THE BEAUTIFUL
LIFE OF THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WHICH WE'LL BEGIN
TO SHOW.
[VIDEO SHOWN]
9:10:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR THAT DEEPLY MOVING
VIDEO ON A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN AND A BEAUTIFUL SOUL.
NEXT, WE HAVE MAYOR JANE CASTOR, WHO WILL COME FORWARD TO
SAY SOME WORDS, A WOMAN THAT I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
HAD A LOT OF ADMIRATION, RESPECT AND LOVE FOR.
MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
9:10:49AM >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR ARRANGING THIS TRIBUTE TO GWEN
HENDERSON.
I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL DEVASTATED AND THAT WE HOLD GWEN AND
HER FAMILY IN OUR HEARTS AT THIS TIME.
AND IT'S DIFFICULT.
IT'S A DIFFICULT TIME FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
I DO THINK THAT TO DESCRIBE GWEN HENDERSON AS A FORCE OF
NATURE IS A VERY ACCURATE DESCRIPTION.
WE WOULD ALL COLLECTIVELY LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT WE EXPERIENCE
LIFE TO ITS FULLEST, BUT I BELIEVE GWEN WAS AN EXAMPLE, A
LIVING EXAMPLE OF THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT HER LIFE AND THE WAY THAT SHE WAS RAISED IN

CARVER CITY, LINCOLN GARDENS, WENT TO JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL,
DEDICATED HER LIFE TO SHAPING THE LIVES OF THE FUTURE OF
THIS GENERATION, LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE.
I WOULD TALK TO THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS WHEN I WAS THE
POLICE CHIEF, AND I WOULD ALWAYS SAY TO THEM THAT IF YOUR
STUDENTS COME BACK TO YOU AFTER THEY GRADUATE TO SHARE THEIR
EXPERIENCES, THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, THAT SAYS THAT YOU MADE
A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THEIR LIFE.
I CAN'T TELL YOU -- WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY TIME I
WAS WITH GWEN HENDERSON, THERE WAS NEVER AN EVENT THAT
SOMEONE DIDN'T COME UP TO HER AND TALK ABOUT THEIR
EXPERIENCE WITH HER AS A TEACHER AND THE THINGS THAT THEY
HAD ACCOMPLISHED IN THEIR LIVES.
AND THEN TO GO FORTH AND BECOME A SUCCESSFUL MEMBER OF CITY
COUNCIL AND SERVE HER DISTRICT BY MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS
FOR THE RIGHT REASONS, IT ALWAYS MADE ME SMILE WHEN I SAW
THINGS OR READ OR HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT GWEN WAS INFLUENCED
BY CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS.
AND ANYBODY WHO KNEW, TRULY KNEW GWEN KNEW NOBODY INFLUENCED
HER.
SHE MADE HER OWN DECISIONS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT I LOVED ABOUT HER.
AND THEN TO GO ON AND REALIZE HER LIFE DREAM.
SHE HAD A DREAM OF OPENING A BOOKSTORE.
AND TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT CAN IN NO WAY BE

DIMINISHED.
THAT IS THE TRUE LEGACY OF HER LIFE, TO GO FROM A POSITION
WHERE INDIVIDUALS IN HER FAMILY WEREN'T EVEN ABLE TO READ TO
OPENING A BOOKSTORE THAT IS INFLUENCING SO MANY INDIVIDUALS,
NOT ONLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN THE TAMPA BAY REGION, BUT ALL
OVER THE NATION.
SHE DEFINITELY EXPERIENCED A LIFE WELL LIVED.
AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS INTELLIGENT, FIERCE, LOYAL, SOMEBODY
THAT YOU, CONVERSATION YOU HAD IN PUBLIC WAS THE SAME
CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD IN PRIVATE.
IF YOU ASKED HER OPINION, HOLD ON BECAUSE YOU WERE GETTING
HER OPINION.
AND MAYBE BEHIND THE SCENES THERE WERE A FEW MORE COLORFUL
WORDS, BUT SHE WAS THE SAME PERSON IN PUBLIC AS SHE WAS
BEHIND THE SCENES AND IN PERSON.
I KNOW THAT GWEN, I'M QUITE CERTAIN, HAD HUNDREDS OF
INDIVIDUALS THAT SHE CALLED FRIEND.
AND FOR ME, I'M JUST HONORED TO BE ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
THANK YOU FOR THIS TRIBUTE TO AN INDIVIDUAL THAT LEFT AN
INDELIBLE MARK ON OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT WE, EACH OF US,
SHOULD STRIVE TO CARRY ON THAT LEGACY.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:14:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR REMARKS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEREAFTER FROM OUR

FRIEND COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS.
WE'LL START WITH OUR CHAIR, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN
START WITH MR. MIRANDA AND GO DOWN THE LINE TO THE EXTENT
THAT FOLKS WISH TO SPEAK.
9:15:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING.
THE PHONE CALL I RECEIVED FROM THE MAYOR THAT MORNING WAS A
PHONE CALL YOU DON'T EVER EXPECT TO RECEIVE.
IT WAS A GUT PUNCH.
I TELL PEOPLE IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING LEFT ME AT THAT MOMENT.
YOU JUST DON'T EXPECT SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM A VIBRANT
60-YEAR-OLD WOMAN TO LEAVE US THAT EARLY.
WE DIDN'T JUST LOSE A COLLEAGUE AND A COWORKER, WE LOST A
FRIEND.
I HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE HER AND I RAN FOR THIS
POSITION TOGETHER.
WE WERE FRESHMEN ON CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE WERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND WE WERE WITH EACH OTHER
JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS.
YOU SEE EVERY SIDE OF SOMEONE.
IT'S TOUGH TO KNOW SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE SITTING HERE NEXT
TO US.
SHE CONTRIBUTES SO MUCH TO THE COUNCIL, TO THE DISCUSSION,
WHETHER WE AGREED OR WE AGREED TO DISAGREE.
IT WAS STILL AN AMAZING CONTRIBUTION FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
THAT SHE BROUGHT.

I ECHO WHAT MAYOR CASTOR SAID ABOUT BEING OUT IN THE CITY
WITH HER.
EVERY SINGLE TIME, EVERY SINGLE TIME I WAS AROUND TOWN WITH
HER, AN ADULT WOULD COME UP AND THANK HER FOR WHAT SHE DID
FOR THEM AS A SCHOOL TEACHER, AS AN EDUCATOR, AND THAT THEY
WERE WHERE THEY WERE PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF HER AND WHAT SHE
BROUGHT.
I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING GWEN HENDERSON IS PROBABLY IN HEAVEN
RIGHT NOW AND LOOK OUT BECAUSE SHE IS GOING TO REARRANGE THE
CHAIRS AND SHE'S GOING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS DOING WHAT
THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
SHE DON'T PLAY AND SHE'S NOT GOING TO TOLERATE THE NONSENSE.
I HOPE SHE'S IN A BETTER PLACE AND WE'LL MISS HER DEARLY.
THANK YOU.
9:17:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:17:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MY OFFICE IS RIGHT NEXT TO GWEN'S.
WE BOTH WENT TO THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL.
TRY TO OUTDO EACH OTHER ON DRAGON STUFF.
SHE PUT UP A DRAGON ON HER WALL OUTSIDE, SO I HAD TO FIND ME
ONE SOMEWHERE TO MATCH HERS.
WHEN I WOULD FIND SOMETHING THAT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH
JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL, I WOULD GIVE HER ONE AND BUY ONE FOR
MYSELF.
LITTLE TRINKETS.
STUFF LIKE THAT.

I NEVER MET ANYONE WHO CAME OFF AND TOLD YOU EXACTLY HOW SHE
FELT WITHOUT INSULTING YOU BUT AT THE SAME TIME TELLING YOU,
DON'T CROSS THE LINE.
SHE REMINDED ME OF MY OLD SCHOOLTEACHERS, SCOLD ME IN HIGH
SCHOOL, AND HERE SHE WAS HERE NOT SCOLDING ME BUT TELLING
ME, CHARLIE, THE LINE IS HERE, SO DON'T CROSS IT.
AND SHE WAS FRIENDLY, BUT SHE WAS ALSO TENACIOUS.
IF SHE FELT SHE WAS RIGHT, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAID, TRY TO
CONVINCE HER, SHE WOULD TELL YOU WHY SHE WAS RIGHT.
AND AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION, YOU YOURSELF HELD DOUBT
THAT YOU WERE WRONG AND SHE WAS RIGHT.
BUT SHE WAS A PERSON THAT WORKED DILIGENTLY TO HELP HER
COMMUNITY.
THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED HER SHOULD REALLY, REALLY BE PROUD OF
HER.
SHE DID IT WITH CLASS, WITH SOME HUMOR, BUT ALSO WITH
RESPECT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN GENERAL.
ALL.
NO MATTER WHAT DISTRICT THEY CAME FROM, SHE TREATED THEM ALL
ALIKE.
SHE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THE CITY, WITH THE STAFF.
I WOULD IMAGINE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
SHE HAD SOMETHING ABOUT HER THAT MOST OF US DON'T HAVE.
AND SHE WOULD TELL YOU DIRECTLY, NOT INDIRECTLY, WHERE SHE
STOOD.

NOT ONLY HERE ON THE DAIS.
BUT IF YOU HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ANY OTHER THING ASIDE
FROM GOVERNMENT, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT SHE
WAS THE KIND OF PERSON THAT LET YOU KNOW THAT SHE WAS
WILLING TO DEBATE YOU IF SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS RIGHT.
YOU CAN'T ASK ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT FROM ANY ELECTED
OFFICIAL.
SHE SPOKE WHAT SHE THOUGHT ABOUT EVEN ON THE DAIS, SPOKE ON
HOW SHE FELT, AND SHE CARED ABOUT THE PUBLIC, BUT SHE CARED
MORE ABOUT TELLING YOU HOW SHE FELT THAN HOW YOU FELT ABOUT
HER.
THAT IS A RARE THING.
AFRAID, OH, TURN AGAINST ME.
SHE WASN'T AFRAID TO TELL YOU THAT.
SHE WASN'T AFRAID TO TELL YOU EYE TO EYE, EXACTLY HOW IT WAS
AND WHY SHE WAS VOTING THAT WAY.
I COULD SEE IT WHEN SHE SPOKE FROM THE DAIS.
SHE WAS FRESH AIR.
SHE COUNTED EVERYTHING THAT SHE EVER DID.
SHE STUDIED IT.
SHE DIDN'T WING ANYTHING.
EVERYONE, INCLUDING MYSELF LEARNED FROM HER THINGS WE NEVER
THOUGHT ABOUT.
I'M SAYING THAT I MISS HER A LOT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE SHE WAS
OUR NEIGHBOR, BUT I MISS HER A LOT BECAUSE OF HER SINCERITY

AND THE WAY SHE HANDLED HERSELF DURING HER PUBLIC SERVICE.
GOD BLESS HER.
9:20:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
9:20:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I THINK THE WORD TO DESCRIBE COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON IS
FEARLESS.
MONDAY NIGHT I WAS AT A BOARD MEETING, AND A GENTLEMAN ASKED
ME, HOW DO YOU LIKE WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON?
I GO, SHE'S TOUGH.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO DEBATE HER.
I SAID SHE'S ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ME AND SHE'S ALWAYS
BEEN A GOOD FRIEND.
AND WE LEFT IT AT THAT.
IT'S AMAZING.
PEOPLE ASK, LIKE EVERYWHERE YOU GO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON, WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON OR A CITY COUNCIL
EVENT OR CRA EVENT, THERE'S SOMEBODY WHOSE LIFE SHE
IMPACTED.
WE HAVE A FAMILY FRIEND FOR PROBABLY 50 YEARS AND SHE TELLS
ME ONE DAY, WHEN YOU SEE GWEN -- I NEVER CALLED HER GWEN --
I CALLED HER YES, MA'AM, NO, MA'AM, OR COUNCIL MEMBER.
[ LAUGHTER ]
WHEN YOU SEE GWEN YOU TELL HER SHE NEEDS TO CALL ME.
I GO, OKAY.
I SAW COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON THE NEXT NIGHT.

I WENT UP AND SAID I HAVE A MESSAGE FOR YOU.
COMMISSIONER MYERS WAS RIGHT NEXT TO HER.
I SAID I WAS TOLD TO TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU TELL GWEN SHE
NEEDS TO CALL ME.
SHE GOES, WHO SAID THAT?
I TOLD HER THE NAME.
SHE SAID THAT WAS MY FOURTH GRADE TEACHER.
HOW DO YOU KNOW HER?
THIS WOMAN KNOWS EVERYBODY.
I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME.
I KNOW I CRY ALL THE TIME AND I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S VERY
EMOTIONAL.
BUT I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST MET HER, MY WIFE AND I WENT UP
TO HER.
MY WIFE IS A TEACHER.
HENDERSON WAS A TEACHER.
THEY HIT IT OFF FROM THE FIRST CONVERSATION.
I FEEL LIKE -- IT'S NOT A DREAM.
IT'S A NIGHTMARE.
I'M SITTING AT HOME THE OTHER NIGHT AND I'M NOT EVEN AWAKE.
WE HAVEN'T STOPPED THINKING ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON
WHO WAS HERE JUST A WEEK AGO.
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO LOOK IN THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE I
PICTURE HER IN THIS SEAT.
THE IMPACT THAT SHE'S HAD IN THE LAST TWO YEARS AS A COUNCIL

MEMBER AND A CRA MEMBER, FORGET THE DECADES AS AN EDUCATOR,
THE THOUSANDS OF LIVES THAT SHE HAS TOUCHED.
THE IMPACT IS HUGE.
THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL A WORST-CASE SCENARIO.
HOW DO YOU FILL THESE SHOES?
SOMEONE, THE MAYOR SAID IT, ABOUT LIVING LIFE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON ENJOYED LIFE EACH AND EVERY DAY.
SHE DIDN'T LET ANYBODY STOP HER.
A PIECE OF ADVICE SHE TOLD ME A MONTH AGO, WE WERE AT AN
EVENT HERE IN DOWNTOWN, I SAID SOMETHING, SHE GOES,
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
YOU NEVER GIVE UP.
YOU NEVER GIVE UP.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP ON GOING.
AND THAT'S IT.
ALL MY MEMORIES WITH HER ARE GOOD.
SHE WAS SUPPORTIVE.
SHE WAS A FRIEND.
WE SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER FOR TWO YEARS.
WHEN YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME ON THIS DAIS, MY WIFE IS THE
OTHER PERSON THAT I SPEND THE MOST TIME WITH.
IT IS MY WIFE.
EVERYBODY ELSE IS CITY COUNCIL.
WE HAVE THESE 12-HOUR DAYS IN THESE MEETINGS, WE REALLY GET
TO KNOW EACH OTHER.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON DRINKS COCA-COLA, HOW THIS ONE GETS
COFFEE, THE SNACKS THEY EAT, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME
TOGETHER.
I'M HONORED THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO -- THAT I ALWAYS HAVE
THAT MEMORY OF COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
A WONDERFUL PERSON.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT POLITICS.
SHE HAD A GOOD HEART.
SHE WAS GOOD FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
SHE WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
HER IMPACT WILL BE FELT FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
THE OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT AND GRIEF.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
MOVIE STARS DON'T GET THIS KIND OF RESPONSE.
MY WIFE SAID IT, IT'S ALL OVER THE NEWS.
I GO TO SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S HENDERSON.
I TURN ON THE TV, IT'S HENDERSON.
THAT GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT SHE'S -- THE IMPACT, THE
IMPORTANCE, THE SIGNIFICANCE, AND THE LOVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE
FOR HER IN THIS COMMUNITY.
HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
HOW DO YOU FILL THIS VOID ON THIS BOARD OF SOMEBODY LIKE
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON?
I'M HEARTBROKEN.

I'M DEVASTATED.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THE FAMILY.
I THINK ABOUT HER SISTER, HER DAUGHTER.
THAT WAS HER WORLD.
HER STUDENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT SHE EDUCATED, BUT HER
FAMILY WAS EVERYTHING.
FAMILY FIRST.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT THIS PLACE.
FAMILY FIRST.
I WILL MISS HER TREMENDOUSLY.
THANK YOU.
9:25:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:25:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS A FORCE.
AND WE, OF COURSE, HAD A SPECIAL BOND BECAUSE WE WERE WOMEN,
FORMER EDUCATORS ON THIS COUNCIL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, SPOKEN OR NOT, THERE IS AN EXTRA
LAYER WHEN YOU ARE A WOMAN ON THIS COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE
HAVEN'T BEEN THAT MANY OF US.
SO WHEN SHE JOINED COUNCIL, SHE STARTED TO CALL ME 15.
THAT WAS HER NICKNAME FOR ME BECAUSE SHE TOLD ME, SHE SAID,
YOU ARE ONLY THE 15th WOMAN IN THE HISTORY OF TAMPA ON
CITY COUNCIL.

SO I THEN STARTED CALLING HER 16.
BUT EVERY SINGLE TIME WE WOULD CALL EACH OTHER THAT, IT WAS
A REMEMBRANCE OF HOW IMPORTANT HAVING WOMEN ON THIS BODY WAS
AND, QUITE FRANKLY, THE LITTLE EXTRA BIT THAT WE HAD TO
CARRY, THAT WE HAD TO SHOW, THAT WE HAD TO WORK BECAUSE AS
TEACHERS, AS WOMEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HER ESPECIALLY AS A
WOMAN OF COLOR COUNCIL MEMBER, WE ARE ROLE MODELS FOR OTHER
WOMEN WHO SHOULD FIND THEMSELVES, WHO SHOULD SEE THEMSELVES
IN POSITIONS OF POWER.
SO I LOVED -- TO ME, THAT'S WHO SHE WAS.
SHE ALWAYS BROUGHT THE HISTORY IN.
JUST THAT LITTLE NICKNAME REMINDER WAS, OKAY, REMEMBER, WHO
YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
BUT SHE DIDN'T JUST DO THAT FOR ME.
EVERY TIME SHE TALKED ON COUNCIL AND WE WERE DEBATING, SAY,
GIVING MONEY TO A BUILDING FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION, SHE
WOULD SAY, WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR BUILDINGS THAT WERE
SIGNIFICANT TO BLACK FOLKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SHE WOULD SAY, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT?
SHE WOULD REMIND US EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD
HAVE LEFT IT UNSAID, BUT SHE DIDN'T.
SHE CONTINUOUSLY REMINDED US THAT OUR CITY IS A LOT MORE
THAN JUST THE HISTORY THAT WE LIKE TO REMEMBER, IT IS THE
HISTORY WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT BRINGS OUR CITY FORWARD.

THAT IS THE LEGACY SHE WILL LEAVE WITH ME.
THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A BODY TO CONTINUE IS TO
REMEMBER THAT AND TO BRING THAT FORWARD BECAUSE SHE WAS SO
POWERFUL FOR THAT.
I KNOW SHE CHANGED MY MINDSET IN TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THAT
AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I KNOW THAT AS THIS BODY MOVES FORWARD, I WILL MAKE IT A
MISSION TO HELP US REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT.
SHE DIDN'T SHY AWAY FROM THAT.
I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I WILL MISS HER, AND I WILL MISS HER TENACITY AND THE WAY
SHE WAS REALLY ABLE TO BRING VERY IMPORTANT TOPICS TO LIGHT
THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT AS A CITY IF WE'RE GOING
TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE INCLUSIVE OF EVERYONE.
I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
HER LEGACY WILL LAST A VERY LONG TIME.
9:28:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
9:28:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
FIRST OF ALL, TO -- SHE ALWAYS SAID COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE
SHE EARNED THE TITLE.
I THINK WE ALL CALLED HER COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
BUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON'S FAMILY, OUR CONDOLENCES TO
HER DAUGHTER AND SISTER WHO WE KNOW WELL.
SHE OBVIOUSLY PAID IT FORWARD IN MANY WAYS IN THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS.

TO HER DAUGHTER IN PARTICULAR, ANYTHING YOU NEED GOING
FORWARD, LET US KNOW.
YOU HAVE A WHOLE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING YOU IN WHATEVER YOU
NEED IN THE FUTURE.
I THINK IT WAS OBVIOUS AS OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT SHE WAS
BRILLIANT.
SHE PROBABLY HAD A SUPER, SUPER HIGH IQ.
I LOVE BEING ON THE BOARD WITH SOMEBODY LIKE THAT BECAUSE I
NEVER KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT.
SHE DID HER RESEARCH AND SHE KNEW A LOT OF THINGS.
AS OTHER FOLKS SAID, SHE WAS A GREAT DEBATER.
SOME PEOPLE WOULD TAKE THAT AS WE WERE ARGUING WITH EACH
OTHER, BUT IT WAS FUN DEBATING HER.
WHAT YOU ALL DIDN'T SEE IS THAT SOMETIMES WE WOULD BE
DEBATING AND THEN SHE WOULD WHISPER A JOKE, AS SOON AS WE
GOT OUTSIDE THE DOOR, SHE WOULD TELL US A JOKE.
WE WOULD DEBATE AND THEN ON SOME ISSUE OR DISCUSS SOME
ISSUE, AS I'M WALKING OUT TO GET A DRINK, SHE WOULD TAP ME
AND SAY, CARLSON, GET ME SOMETHING, TOO.
WE WERE ALWAYS HELPING EACH OTHER, WORKING WITH EACH OTHER.
YOU SEE HER PICTURE, AS GUIDO SAID, HER PICTURE HAS BEEN
SHOWING UP EVERYWHERE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
SHE HAD A SMILE AND PRESENCE THAT WHEN SHE WALKED IN THE
ROOM, EVERYBODY FELT POSITIVE, ENERGIZED.
SHE HAD A NATURAL SENSE OF CHARISMA.

SHE WAS REALLY FUNNY.
AFTER A TOUGH DISCUSSION OR LONG NIGHT, SHE WOULD TELL US
JOKES BEHIND THE SCENES.
THESE ARE THINGS YOU ALL NEVER SEE.
WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT SUNSHINE ISSUES, BUT SHE WOULD TELL US
ABOUT OTHER THINGS.
SEVERAL FOLKS HAVE ASKED US ABOUT HER ISSUES.
THERE WERE MANY OF THEM.
IF WE HAPPEN TO FORGET SOME OF THEM, REMIND US, ESPECIALLY
IN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ISSUES AS THEY COME UP.
OBVIOUSLY, TAMPA HEIGHTS WAS AN ISSUE OF INTEREST TO HER.
I WAS INVITED BY THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION
RECENTLY TO SPEAK, AND SHE SHOWED UP, SAT RIGHT FRONT AND
CENTER.
I TOLD EVERYBODY, I SAID BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE SHE CAN'T
RESPOND.
SHE CAN LISTEN TO ME BUT SHE CAN'T RESPOND.
I SAID SHE'LL WANT TO RESPOND BUT CAN'T.
AND SHE SAID, UM-HUM.
I'M SURE AS SOON AS I LEFT, SHE SAID WHATEVER SHE WAS GOING
TO SAY.
AS I TOLD THEM, SHE WOULD MEET WITH MY CONSTITUENTS IN SOUTH
TAMPA AND I WOULD MEET WITH HER CONSTITUENTS.
ON COUNCIL, WE NEED FOUR VOTES TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT EACH OTHER'S DISTRICTS AND SHE

WAS GOOD ABOUT LEARNING ABOUT EVERYBODY'S AREAS.
OBVIOUSLY, SHE WAS AN EXPERT ON HOUSING.
THE STORY OF HOW SHE GOT HER HOME AND THE VALUE IT CREATED
FOR HER FAMILY IS UNBELIEVABLE.
IT IS A GREAT TESTIMONY TO WHY WE NEED SMART HOUSING
POLICIES TO HELP LIFT PEOPLE UP IN THE COMMUNITY.
SHE ALSO TAUGHT ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND WAS VERY INVOLVED IN
HELPING ENTREPRENEURS.
WE NEED TO HOLD THAT SPIRIT FORWARD AS WELL.
THERE IS AN AMAZING SENSE OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP HAPPENING WITH
PROBABLY MANY OF HER FORMER STUDENTS NOW AS WE SEE A NEW
ENTREPRENEURIAL CLASS RISING, ESPECIALLY IN EAST TAMPA,
TAMPA HEIGHTS.
AND CREATIVE BUSINESSES BEING SET UP.
SHE WAS A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE AND DEFENDER OF CULTURE.
THERE WERE DIFFERENT CULTURES FROM ALL THE PLACES SHE LIVED
AND ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF BACKGROUNDS SHE HAD.
SHE SHOWED THAT, DISPLAYED IT, TALKED ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THAT.
AS THE MAYOR SAID, SHE WAS VERY PROTECTIVE OF CARVER CITY
AND LINCOLN GARDENS.
BELIEVE ME, WE WILL BE THINKING ABOUT HER WHEN ANY ISSUES
COME UP RELATED TO THOSE TWO PLACES.
AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED, JEFFERSON, WE KNOW SHE
LOVED IT, EVERY MEETING, INCLUDING THE LAST MEETING, SHE

TALKED ABOUT IT.
ONE THING THAT HAPPENS WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS LEAVE, THEY HAVE
MOTIONS THAT ARE GOING FORWARD.
SO WE WILL SEE HER PRESENCE LITERALLY IN THE AGENDAS COMING
UP.
OF COURSE, WE WILL FEEL HER PRESENCE.
WE WILL THINK ABOUT HER.
THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SUPPORTED HER AND WORKED WITH HER IN
THE COMMUNITY, PLEASE REMIND US OF WHAT SHE WOULD HAVE SAID
DURING THOSE MOTIONS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
REPRESENT HER CORRECTLY.
I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN SHE
WAS HERE BECAUSE SHE KEPT ME ON MY TOES.
I NEVER KNEW WHAT SHE WAS GOING TO SAY.
SHE WAS BRILLIANT.
YOU COULDN'T PUSH HER AROUND.
YOU HAD TO HAVE AN INTELLECTUAL ARGUMENT.
SHE WOULD DO THE SAME THING.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING AN INTELLECTUAL ARGUMENT AND REAL
ARGUMENT.
IT WAS FUN.
IT'S LIKE SITTING NEXT TO HER OR SITTING NEAR HER WAS LIKE
SITTING NEXT TO THE A-PLUS STUDENT SO THAT YOU CAN TRY TO
TRACK AND BE THE A-PLUS STUDENT AS WELL.
THAT MADE IT EXCITING EVERY WEEK.

BUT I THINK THAT SHE DEFINITELY WILL BE WITH US.
WE'LL SEE HER IN THE MOTIONS.
WE'LL FEEL HER PRESENCE.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS THESE ISSUES COME UP, SHE'S GOING TO
STILL KEEP US ON OUR TOES BECAUSE SHE'S STILL LISTENING.
THANK YOU.
9:33:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
MY SENTIMENTS ON THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, PEOPLE
TALK ABOUT SITTING NEXT TO HER.
I SAT NEXT TO HER AND SHE WAS HILARIOUS TO SIT NEXT TO.
SHE REALLY WAS.
HER REMARKS.
HER RESPONSES.
THE THINGS THAT SHE WOULD SAY TO YOU WERE REALLY FUNNY.
SHE HAD A VERY SHARP SENSE OF HUMOR.
SHE WAS A NATURALLY FUNNY PERSON, ESPECIALLY IN POLITICS
WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO, SHE
DID WHAT SHE WAS GOING TO DO AND IT ALWAYS CAME FROM THE
HEART.
SHE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT HOW SHE FELT.
SHE DIDN'T REALLY CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT BECAUSE SHE
THOUGHT IT WAS RIGHT.
I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS REFRESHING.
I LOVE TO HEAR HER TALK ABOUT HER FAMILY.
SO THOUGHTFUL AND SO IN-DEPTH AND SO RELEVANT TO TODAY,

TALKING ABOUT HER MOTHER WHO SHE JUST WORSHIPPED.
SHE WORSHIPPED HER MOM.
HER LATE FATHER, SHE WOULD ALWAYS TALK ABOUT STORIES OF HIM
SERVING IN THE KOREAN WAR AND BEING SO DISRESPECTED IN THE
UNITED STATES MILITARY EVEN THOUGH HE WENT TO BATTLE FOR OUR
COUNTRY DURING JIM CROW AND HIM COMING HOME, GETTING A HOUSE
IN CARVER CITY AND RAISING A FAMILY.
A TAMPA STORY, LIKE A REAL TAMPA STORY AND SOMETHING THAT IS
SO BEAUTIFUL.
SHE HAD A REAL LOVE FOR HER COMMUNITY, FOR CARVER CITY, FOR
TAMPA.
TO ME, GWEN HENDERSON WAS A REAL FIGHTER AND A CHAMPION OF
WORKING CLASS AFRICAN AMERICAN TAMPE OS.
SHE WAS.
THAT IS A FACT.
LIKE, SHE WAS.
SHE ALWAYS WAS.
I ALWAYS TELL FOLKS IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO SEE THE
BEAUTIFUL HEART -- AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL HEART -- OF GWEN
HENDERSON, GO TO BLACK ENGLISH BOOKSTORE.
I KNEW GWEN, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
I KNEW HER FROM BEFORE.
I THOUGHT SHE WAS A WONDERFUL WOMAN.
WHEN I STEPPED INTO THAT STORE, DURING THE OPENING OTHER
COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE HERE, BEAUTIFUL.

SUCH A BEAUTIFUL THING.
IT WAS A LOVE LETTER TO BLACK HISTORY, TO HER FAMILY, TO HER
COMMUNITY, TO IGNORED HISTORY.
IT WAS A LOVE LETTER FROM JUST A WOMAN WITH A BEAUTIFUL
HEART.
I WAS ALWAYS TOUCHED.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND OTHERS TALKED ABOUT THIS, THAT WHEN
STUDENTS WOULD COME AND THEY WOULD SAY, MAN, MS. HENDERSON,
I LOVE YOU.
YOU WERE MY TEACHER IN WHATEVER YEAR IT WAS.
SHE REALLY MADE AN IMPACT.
THE KIND OF IMPACT THAT VERY FEW OF US MAKE.
SHE ALWAYS TOLD IT LIKE IT IS.
THERE IS THAT SAYING, MICHELLE OBAMA, WHEN THEY GO LOW, YOU
GO HIGH.
WHEN FOLKS WENT LOW AGAINST COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, PEOPLE
WERE MEAN.
SOME PEOPLE WERE.
BUT SHE WENT HIGHER IN HER OWN WAY, BUT SHE ALSO PUNCHED
BACK.
SHE WOULD TELL ME, VIERA, YOU'RE TOO NICE.
BECAUSE SHE HANDLED THINGS HER WAY, BUT IT WORKED FOR HER.
I TELL YOU WHAT, IF YOU PUSHED AGAINST COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON, SHE WOULD PUSH BACK.
SHE WOULD PUSH BACK.

AND WITH THE STRENGTH OF HER OFFICE, HER CHARACTER, HER
FAMILY, HER BLOOD, AND WHERE SHE COMES FROM AND HER PASSION,
ULTIMATELY, WHEN SHE PASSED ON, SHE WAS LIVING OUT HER
DREAM.
YOU TALK TO PEOPLE WHO WENT TO JEFFERSON WITH HER, SHE WOULD
TALK ABOUT, I WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
SHE DID IT AND SHE WON, AND SHE WAS OUT LIVING HER DREAM.
SHE REALLY WAS.
HER DREAM OF BEING A MOM, A GREAT MOM WHO LOVED HER DAUGHTER
SO MUCH AND OF A REAL PUBLIC SERVANT.
FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT GWEN HENDERSON IS ALL ABOUT.
SHE WAS SUCH A SPECIAL PERSON.
SHE WAS UNIQUE AND SHE TOLD IT LIKE IT WAS.
IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT, THAT'S COOL.
THERE'S ALWAYS THE NEXT ELECTION TO DEAL WITH THAT WITH HER.
THAT'S HOW SHE ALWAYS DEALT WITH IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL AND EVERYONE, FOR REMARKS FROM
THE HEART.
NEXT WE WILL RECOGNIZE OUR FRIEND AND GREAT CHAMPION HERE IN
TAMPA, IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWEN
MYERS.
9:37:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
AS MY MIND REFLECT BACK AT LEAST ABOUT THREE AND A HALF
WEEKS AGO, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND I WERE OVER AT PERRY
HARVEY PARK AT THE BE OUT DAY.

HAD OUR FAMU JERSEYS ON JUST WALKING THE PARK, TALKING WITH
EVERYONE, TAKING PICTURES.
SHE SAYS, COME ON COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW WE ALWAYS HAVE TO
DO A SELFIE.
HAVE TO DO A SELFIE, BUT WE HAVE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY HERE
BECAUSE WE'RE HERE.
SO WE WENT ON THE STAGE AND WE DID THAT.
AND THEN MY MIND REFLECT BACK ON JUNE 3rd WHEN SHE HOSTED
THE HBCU DAY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A JOY AND COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS THERE.
IT WAS COMING OUTSIDE TO GREET EVERYONE.
THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, ALL OF THE FRESHMEN GOING TO AN
HBCU.
AND SHE HOSTED SOMETHING THAT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME HERE
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND SHE WAS PROUD TO SEE ALL OF THE FRESHMEN, BUT MOSTLY
PROUD TO SEE ALL OF THE GRADUATES COME BACK WITH OUR
PARAPHERNALIA.
SHE SAID, OH, THERE IS THE HOWARD, THERE IS TUSKEGEE.
SHE WAS JUST GOING ON AND ON BRAGGING.
BUT IT'S NOTHING LIKE FAMU.
[ LAUGHTER ]
NOTHING LIKE FAMU.
SHE TOLD DARLENE, OKAY, DARLENE, JUST KEEP IT COOL, BCU.
THE RATTLERS, WE'RE IN THE HOUSE AND IT'S ALL ABOUT US.

MORE RATTLERS THAN -- AND YOU KNOW.
AND THEN RECEIVING THE CALL ON MONDAY -- NO, TUESDAY
MORNING.
MONDAY MORNING, JUNE 8, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, SCHOOL BOARD
MEMBERS LYNN GRAY AND PATTY RENDON, WE WERE ALL TOGETHER TO
GIVE REMARKS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA SUMMER HIRES.
GWEN CAME UP.
I SAID GOOD MORNING, HOW IS IT GOING?
I'M LATE BECAUSE THEY MADE ME GET A BADGE.
I SAID, OH, I WAS PRIVILEGED.
I JUST GAVE THEM COMMISSIONER MYERS AND THE GUY OPENED THE
DOOR AND TOLD ME TO TAKE THE ELEVATOR TO THE SIXTH FLOOR.
SHE SAID, OH, STOP IT.
YOU ARE COUNCIL.
THEY SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED YOU TO COME ON UP.
WITH THAT WE ALL JOKED.
McCASKILL SAID, WE NEED YOU ALL TO TAKE A PICTURE, THE
WHOLE GROUP WITH THE STUDENTS.
COUNCILWOMAN SAT NEXT TO ME, DARLENE SAT NEXT TO HER AND
THEN THE TWO SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.
SAID, I HAVE TO RUN.
I GOT TO RUSH OFF.
I'VE GOT TO GET BACK OVER TO COUNTY CENTER.
SHE SAID WHERE YOU GOING?
I HAVE TO GO TO PARRISH.

I HAVE A TOUR DOWN IN PARRISH, FLORIDA, TO MEET WITH A
DEVELOPER ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WANTS TO COME TO TAMPA.
SHE SAYS, I'M GOING ON A TOUR, TOO.
I SAID WHERE ARE YOU GOING TODAY?
I'M GOING OVER TO EAST TAMPA, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO
TAKE ME OVER TO EAST TAMPA AND I'M GOING TO TOUR EAST TAMPA.
AND WE LAUGHED.
IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THE MIGHTY GOD WE SERVE.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THE END OF THE LINE TO BE
WITH SOMEONE MONDAY MORNING AND TUESDAY MORNING YOU GET THE
CALL, YOU ARE NO LONGER HERE.
BUT THE LIFE AND THE LEGACY THAT SHE HAS LEFT US WILL LIVE
FOREVER AND A DAY IN OUR HEARTS BECAUSE THE SERVICE SHE
GAVE, IT WAS PRICELESS TO THIS COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:41:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
WE APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING YOUR HEART HERE.
NEXT WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S
FAMILY AND VERY DEAR FRIENDS WHO ARE HERE, AMONG OTHERS,
THAT ARE HERE, THERE ARE MANY HERE.
I HAVE THREE HERE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING.
I'LL GET INTO THAT.
BUT I WANTED TO GO THROUGH THIS LIST AND RECOGNIZING SOME
VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE WHO WE JOIN IN MOURNING HERE TODAY.
WE HAVE HERE SANDRA COOK, FORMER TEACHER, FRIEND AS WELL AS

A DELTA SORORITY SISTER FOR THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
COME FORWARD, MA'AM.
YOU WILL BE SPEAKING FIRST, WHO WILL BE SPEAKING.
I'M GLAD TO SEE HERE SOMEONE WHO CAN ALSO SPEAK TO HER GREAT
LOVE OF THE DELTAS.
THAT'S SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT.
RICK KINSEY, HIGH SCHOOL FRIEND AND COLLEGE FRIEND OF THE
LATE COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON WHO WILL ALSO BE SPEAKING.
WE HAVE HERE VELDA HENDERSON, HER SISTER WHO IS HERE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR COMING HERE.
WE HAVE HERE TONYA HOLDEN, LONGTIME FRIEND.
LESLEY ALLEN, NEPHEW.
GLORIA GLOVER, A SORORITY SISTER WHO IS HERE.
WE ALSO HAVE HERE ALVETTA FRANK HARRIS, A COUSIN.
WE HAVE HERE DAYANA SMITH, A NIECE.
ALENA SMITH, A GREAT NIECE OF THE LATE COUNCILMAN GWEN
HENDERSON.
OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TOLD FROM US THIS GROUP WHO WISH TO
SPEAK I HAVE HERE MS. COOK WHO IS HERE.
MR. KINSEY, AND THEN CLOSING IT OUT, OUR DEAR FRIEND WHO WE
LOVE SO MUCH.
AND WE ALWAYS JUST LOVE SO MUCH FOR HER KINDNESS, DARLENE
JOHNSON.
THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE NEXT PORTION.
LADIES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU MAY.

9:43:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I LOVE GWEN HENDERSON.
I AM A RETIRED TEACHER, 44 YEARS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
I MET GWEN WHEN SHE WAS 15 AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
THE PERSON THAT YOU ALL HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT TODAY, SHE WAS THE
SAME PERSON AT 15.
AND SHE ONLY GREW STRONGER AND WISER AND MORE DETERMINED.
TO REPRESENT HER PEOPLE.
SHE WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT HER PEOPLE.
SHE USED TO SAY ALL THE TIME, I'M JUST A LITTLE BLACK GIRL
FROM CARVER CITY, BUT SHE WAS MORE THAN THAT.
I WATCHED HER AT JEFFERSON BECAUSE I TAUGHT AT JEFFERSON.
SHE GRADUATED IN '82.
I WAS THERE.
BUT I LEFT JEFFERSON AND I TAUGHT ALL AROUND HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY.
SHE STARTED AT PROGRESS VILLAGE MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND SHE ENDED
UP AT JEFFERSON.
SHE WAS SO EXCITED BECAUSE THAT WAS HER ALMA MATER.
SHE WILL ALWAYS BE A DRAGON.
EVERY TIME I FOUND A DRAGON, I WOULD GET HER A DRAGON AND
SHE WOULD DISPLAY IT.
BUT SHE REALLY, REALLY WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT TEACHING.
AS MY CAREER WENT ON, I'M A LITTLE LONG IN THE TOOTH, AND
SHE ALWAYS WANTED ME TO COME TO JEFFERSON TO WORK WITH HER.

I KNOW HER AND WE BOTH HAVE STRONG PERSONALITIES.
I'M LIKE, NO, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO COME TO JEFFERSON.
SHE BECAME THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND SHE WANTED ME TO COME.
MY LAST FIVE YEARS I SPENT AT JEFFERSON.
AND SHE TOOK GREAT CARE OF ME.
I GOT MARRIED AND MY NAME IS COOK, BUT SHE ALWAYS CALLED ME
MS. LEVINS.
ARIEL HER DAUGHTER TOLD ME, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL YOU
MS. LEVINS ANYMORE BECAUSE MY MOM MADE ME CALL YOU
MS. LEVINS.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO CALL ME?
SANDRA.
NO.
ANYWAY, OUR DAUGHTERS WERE BORN A MONTH APART, SO OUR
CHILDREN GREW UP TOGETHER.
AND IN HIGH SCHOOL, LIKE I SAID, SHE WAS STRONG WILLED AND I
WAS HER TEACHER.
SHE LIKED TO TELL THE STORY OF ME GIVING HER A C.
BECAUSE 87 WAS HER GRADE.
88 WAS A B.
SHE SAID YOU GAVE ME A C.
I'M LIKE, NO, YOU EARNED A C.
SHE WOULD TELL EVERYBODY THAT STORY.
AND THEN LATER ON WE BECAME SORORITY SISTERS.
I WROTE HER A LETTER BECAUSE A MEMBER HAS TO WRITE A LETTER

SAYING THIS PERSON IS OF GOOD CHARACTER.
I WAS HONORED TO DO THAT.
AS WE BECAME OLDER, WE LAUGHED AND JOKED AND I WOULD SAY IN
HIGH SCHOOL, IT WASN'T THAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE ME, YOU JUST
WANTED TO BE ME.
SHE JUST FOLLOWED.
SHE STARTED OUT IN BUSINESS.
SHE NEVER WANTED TO BE A TEACHER, AND IT WAS JUST HER
PASSION.
SHE ENDED UP BEING ONE OF THE GREATEST, GREATEST TEACHERS
THAT I HAVE EVER HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING.
I LOVE HER.
I LOVE HER FAMILY.
I AM FAMILY BECAUSE SHE MADE ME FEEL THAT WAY.
WE'RE GOING TO MISS HER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE KIND WORDS THAT YOU SAID ABOUT HER
BECAUSE SHE WAS THAT AND SO MUCH MORE.
THANK YOU.
9:47:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
GOD BLESS YOU.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR HEART.
NEXT WE HAVE MR. RICK KINSEY.
9:47:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I KNEW GWEN WHEN SHE WAS AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.

I AM A GRADUATE OF TAMPA BAY TECH.
WE BOTH REUNITED AT FLORIDA A AND M UNIVERSITY.
SHE IS THE DRAGON RATTLER AND I AM THE TAMPA BAY TECH
RATTLER.
AND ONE THING ABOUT THE COUNCILWOMAN AS YOU ALL KNOW AND I'M
SURE THE SENTIMENTS WOULD BE THE SAME THROUGHOUT, IS SHE HAD
THE BIGGEST HEART IN THE WORLD.
I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE EVERYBODY WOULD ECHO
THAT.
ONE THING THE COUNCILWOMAN WOULD DO AND WHEN SHE BECAME
COUNCILWOMAN, I REMEMBER HER CALLING ME.
I WAS KIND OF HER CONFIDENT.
I RETIRED OUT OF THE MILITARY, SCHOLARSHIPS, STOOD WITH KIDS
AT TAMPA BAY TECH.
PART OF THE TAMPA FAMU ALUMNI IN WHICH SHE WAS OVER
SCHOLARSHIPS.
HER HEART AND SOUL WAS ABOUT KIDS, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
EVERYBODY WOULD TELL THAT STORY BECAUSE IT IS A COMMON
THREAD.
GOD GAVE HER THAT OPPORTUNITY AND YOU WILL SEE THAT
THROUGHOUT I'M SURE WE HEAR THIS.
JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I WAS STUNNED WHEN I GOT THE CALL
TUESDAY MORNING.
JUST SAW HER AT HBCU DAY.
AS DARLENE WILL PROBABLY TELL YOU, I WAS HER CHIEF OF STAFF.

YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
SHE FIRED ME MORE THAN ANYBODY.
I WAS ALWAYS FIRED.
WHEN WE HAD OUR NATIONAL CONVENTION, SHE PLAYED A VERY BIG
ROLE.
GAVE OUT OVER 13,000 BOOKS.
SHE CALLED ME THAT MORNING AND SAID YOU ARE FIRED, YOUR
SISTER IS IN CHARGE.
I SAID THANK YOU.
LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU NEED MY SERVICES THE NEXT DAY.
WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
IT'S BECAUSE OF HER AND WHAT SHE DID AT THE BOOKSTORE.
GWEN DIDN'T FORGET WHO SHE WAS.
WHEN SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, I SAID OKAY,
JUST REMEMBER THIS, KEEP THE PEOPLE AT YOUR HEART.
WE WOULD ALWAYS END OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS, NO MATTER
WHAT YOU DO IN LIFE, JUST REMEMBER THIS, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS
TRY TO FIND THE WRONG AND YOU'RE RIGHT AND THE BAD AND YOUR
GOOD.
CONTINUE TO DO GOOD.
SHE HAD AN UPHILL BATTLE AND SHE WON.
IT'S ALL IN GOD'S HANDS.
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT GWEN, AGAIN, DARLENE CAN ATTEST TO THIS,
AS YOU KNOW, GWEN TALKS A LOT.
I THOUGHT I TALKED A LOT, BUT SHE GOT ME BEAT.

7:00 IN THE MORNING, ONLY TWO MINUTES, 45 MINUTES LATER.
GWEN, I HAVE TO GO TO THE VA HOSPITAL SO I HAVE TO GET OFF
THE PHONE.
BUT HER PASSION WAS TRULY ABOUT THE KIDS.
HBCU DAY WAS NOT THE FIRST EVENT.
SHE HAD AN EVENT ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO AT JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL.
WE WERE PROVIDING SCHOLARSHIPS.
GWEN CALLED ME THAT MORNING, HEY, I NEED YOU TO COME OVER.
WE HAVE TO GIVE OUT SCHOLARSHIPS.
I SAID NO WORRIES.
HOW MANY YOU WANT ME TO GIVE OUT?
WE END UP GIVING ABOUT 15 STUDENTS THOUSAND DOLLAR
SCHOLARSHIPS.
THAT IS THE KIND OF PERSON SHE WAS.
SHE HAD A WAY OF ASKING BUT SHE WAS TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO.
COUNCILWOMAN, OKAY.
AT THAT TIME SHE WASN'T A COUNCILWOMAN.
SHE WAS GWEN.
TO ME SHE WAS A COUNCILWOMAN BEFORE SHE KNEW SHE WAS A
COUNCILWOMAN, RIGHT?
WE WENT ON.
THE EVENT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
ABOUT THREE YEARS AFTER THAT EVENT SHE CALLED ME ONE
MORNING, HEY, WE NEED TO HAVE IT AT TAMPA BAY TECH.

I SAID I'M NOT THE PRINCIPAL OF TAMPA BAY TECH.
WE MOVED THE EVENT TO TAMPA BAY TECH.
GOT OFF THE PHONE.
CALLED THE PRINCIPAL.
BIG FAVOR TO ASK.
CAN WE HAVE THIS BIG EVENT OVER AT TAMPA BAY TECH.
THE PRINCIPAL AGREED AND WE DID.
IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
BUT GWEN LOVED THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SHE LOVED THESE KIDS.
AS I SAID, TRUE JEFFERSON DRAGON.
SHE LOVED FAMU.
AS I WOULD LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW WHO LOVES FAMU
MORE, YOU OR ME BECAUSE WE BOTH ALWAYS PUSHED FAMU ON THE
KIDS BECAUSE OF THE LOVE FOR THE KIDS.
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT GWEN, SHE WENT OUT ON A LIMB AND EVERYBODY
SHE MET SHE WAS THEIR FRIEND.
NOBODY WAS A STRANGER.
I WOULD LIKE TO TELL EVERYBODY, THIS IS NOT A SAD DAY.
WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS CONTINUE TO LIVE OUT HER DREAMS
BECAUSE SHE GOT A CHANCE TO SEE THAT.
IT'S ONLY GOD THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO HAVE AN HBCU DAY.
AS I THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I WAS IN SHOCK AS WELL, SHE
GOT A CHANCE TO SEE THAT THROUGH.
IMAGINE THAT.

IF YOU DIDN'T COME TO THAT EVENT, YOU SHOULD HAVE.
AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, SHE STOLE MY THUNDER, WE HAD A
PHOTO TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE ALL RATTLERS.
BUT THAT'S JUST WHO SHE WAS.
I'M GLAD SHE GOT A CHANCE TO BECOME THE COUNCILWOMAN SHE
WANTED TO BECOME.
GLAD SHE GOT A CHANCE TO SEE THIS HBCU DAY HAPPEN.
ULTIMATELY IT WAS A SAD DAY.
I STILL, EVEN ON MONDAY, I GOT A TEXT FROM GWEN.
DARLENE, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WHEN SHE TALKED TO ME ON
TUESDAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, HEY, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO
TALK MORE ABOUT THE HBCU DAY FOR NEXT YEAR, WHAT ROLE WE
WERE GOING TO PLAY IN IT.
SHE SAID RICKY, BY THE WAY, THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD STILL
CALL ME RICKY, RIGHT, SHE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT.
BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF PERSON THAT SHE IS AND SHE WAS.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS THAT EVERYBODY CONTINUE TO PUSH
FORWARD WHAT HER DREAMS WERE.
AS YOU STATED, THERE ARE THINGS YOU STILL HAVE TO DO.
THAT'S JUST THE PERSON SHE WAS.
I LEAVE YOU WHAT I TOLD HER, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS
LIFE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HARD JOB.
I RETIRED OUT OF THE MILITARY, SOME OF THE DECISIONS I MADE
WERE NOT POPULAR, BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE WHO WILL
TRY TO FIND THE WRONG AND YOUR RIGHT AND YOUR BAD AND YOUR

GOOD.
LET'S DO GOOD.
COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
9:52:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR WORDS AND HEART.
THE LAST, BEFORE THE FINAL SECTION, WE HAVE MS. DARLENE
JOHNSON TO COME FORWARD, THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S
LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT AND WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PERSON.
9:53:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
DARLENE JOHNSON, LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN
HENDERSON.
I WAS NOT GOING TO SPEAK, BUT SHE SAID TO ME YOU HAVE TO.
SO THIS MORNING, FORGIVE ME, BECAUSE MY MESSAGE IS GOING TO
BE TO HER.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, THESE ARE THE WORDS THAT THEY ARE
SAYING ABOUT YOU.
YOU WERE A GREAT DEBATER.
YOU'RE FEARLESS.
YOU ARE AND YOU WERE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH.
GIRL POWER.
I GOT YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN NUMBER 16, I GOT YOU.
THE MOST BRILLIANT PERSON THAT I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
WORK WITH.
THE LOVE LETTER OF BLACK HISTORY THAT YOU HAVE OPENED WITH

YOUR BOOKSTORE IS COMMENDABLE.
COUNCILWOMAN, BOSS, I THANK YOU FOR MONDAY, THE LAST DAY
THAT WE SHARED TOGETHER AND YOU DID WHAT YOU DO BEST.
YOU STARTED YOUR DAY OUT WITH ACKNOWLEDGING AND RECOGNIZING
THE KIDS, THE LAUGHTER, THE WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT THAT YOU
GAVE THEM WILL LIVE ON IN THEIR LIVES FOREVER.
THE BEAUTY WHEN YOU WALKED IN AND THE SMILE ON YOUR FACE
BECAUSE YOU RECEIVED YOUR BADGE THAT I HAD BEEN TELLING YOU
TO GET FOR OVER A YEAR, I'M PROUD OF YOU.
I'M PROUD -- I FORGAVE YOU FOR BEING LATE BECAUSE YOU WALKED
UPSTAIRS WITH YOUR BADGE.
COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
BOSS LADY, THANK YOU FOR AGREEING TO GO ON A RIDE-ALONG FOR
DISTRICT 5.
THE RIDE-ALONG WAS AMAZING.
MY JOY TO WATCH YOU ROLL YOUR WINDOW DOWN AND SAY TO PEOPLE,
I'M YOUR COUNCILPERSON, TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO KNOW AND
WHAT YOU DON'T THINK I WANT TO KNOW, BUT JUST TELL ME
BECAUSE I'M HERE.
COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR JUST TAKING THE TIME TO GET
OUT OF THE CAR AND SAY, PULL THAT BOOK OUT, DARLENE, AND
CALL THAT CONSTITUENT.
TELL THEM WE'RE HERE.
WE'RE IN FRONT OF HER DOOR AND I'M COMING WITH YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR KNOCKING ON THE DOOR AND
TELLING HER, HER ISSUE OF FIVE YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO GET IT
TAKEN CARE OF AND THE JOY ON HER FACE WAS JUST UNBELIEVABLE.
SO COUNCILWOMAN, I THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DID ON YOUR
LAST DAY.
TO EVERYONE THAT'S HERE, I SAY THANK YOU.
HER LEGACY WILL LIVE ON.
I KNOW THE DESIRE OF HER HEART.
I KNOW THE THINGS THAT WERE PASSIONATE FOR HER.
AND I WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE REGARDLESS OF
WHERE I AM THAT THOSE LEGACY LIVE ON.
I ASK YOU ALL IN THIS ROOM TO DO THE SAME.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS FOR MY BOSS.
I CALL HER THE BOSS LADY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN AND YOU
SAID ABOUT MY BOSS.
THERE'S BEEN SO MANY QUESTIONS, PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT
IS NEXT.
TELL ME HER SERVICES.
FOR THIS MORNING, I WILL BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE AND SHARE WITH
EVERYONE THE SERVICES FOR THE COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN
HENDERSON WILL BE HELD ON THIS TUESDAY, JUNE 17th, 11 A.M.
AT ALLEN TEMPLE CHURCH LOCATED AT 2101 LOWE STREET IN TAMPA,
FLORIDA.
AGAIN, I SAY TO EVERYONE, THE LEGACY LIVES ON IN MY BOSS,

COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TODAY.
IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:57:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MS. JOHNSON.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR HEART AND THE BEAUTIFUL
PERSON THAT YOU ARE AND THE WORDS THAT YOU SAID ABOUT A
BEAUTIFUL PERSON, THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON.
NEXT, WE'LL HAVE REMARKS FROM THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN
GWEN HENDERSON, AND NOT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH WILL BE
LATER, SO WE CAN KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS ARE HERE TO SPEAK,
PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
OKAY.
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
WE'LL LIMIT REMARKS TO LET'S SAY THREE MINUTES A PERSON.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE FULL THREE MINUTES.
I JUST DO THAT TO ACCOMMODATE BECAUSE IT IS AN EMOTIONAL
TIME AND SO FORTH.
THIS IS NARROWLY TAILORED TO REMARKS ON COUNCILWOMAN GWEN
HENDERSON.
I WOULD ASK FOLKS -- WE'LL GO FORWARD.
PLEASE COME FORWARD.

AGAIN, A RAISE OF HANDS IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ONLY ON
COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON.
RAISE YOUR HANDS AGAIN.
9:59:11AM >> JOE ROBINSON.
LISTEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, I NEVER REALLY
KNEW MS. HENDERSON UNTIL SHE GOT ON THE CAMPAIGN.
HEARD ON THE RADIO, ON THE PATTY SHOW.
ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE STARTED CALLING ASKING ME ABOUT
CAMPAIGNING.
WHEN SHE WON, SHE CALLED ME.
WE WOULD BE ON THE PHONE FOR HOURS.
SHE WANT TO KNOW THIS AND THAT AND THIS AND THAT.
ON THE PHONE SO LONG, HER DAUGHTER WOULD TEXT ME AND SAY,
WOULD YOU GET OFF THE PHONE SO I COULD TALK TO MY MAMA.
MS. HENDERSON WANTS TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND SHE ASKED A
LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I DON'T TELL EVERYBODY HOW SHE WOULD CALL ME AND ASK ME A
WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF GOING ON, GOOD, BAD, UGLY IN THE CITY.
I WOULD TELL HER THE TRUTH.
I COME HERE TODAY BECAUSE IT IS A HAPPY DAY THAT SHE WAS
ABLE TO DO WHAT SHE DID IN DISTRICT FIVE IN THIS CITY, WITH
ALL THE CONFUSION AND DYSFUNCTIONALITY ON THE BOARD.
SHE WAS ABLE TO KEEP IT TOGETHER EVEN UNDER THE TENSE
CONDITIONS OF BEING CALLED ALL KIND OF NAMES.
I DON'T FORGET ANYTHING.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
I KEEP THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THANK YOU, THE COMMUNITY, FOR RECOGNIZING THIS LADY, BECAUSE
LIFE IS SHORT.
SHE DIDN'T SERVE LONG, BUT DIDN'T HAVE TO BECAUSE IT WAS
QUALITY TIME AS THEY CALL IT.
IT WAS TIME THAT PEOPLE, SHE WOULD BE THE VOICE OF REASON.
THE VOICE OF REASON.
I HOPE GOING FORWARD WE CAN TRY TO KEEP THAT REASON.
BUT WE'VE GOT A BIG LOSS.
THE VOICE OF REASON IS GONE.
IT'S 3-3.
WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES COMING UP IN THE CITY.
I HOPE YOU ALL REMEMBER WHEN SITTING THERE MAKING,
DELIBERATING, THAT'S WHY I'M DOWN HERE, I'VE BEEN CALLED
BACK TO ACTION.
I'M BACK IN ACTION.
LOOKING AT THIS.
I'M HERE TO SAY, THANK YOU GOD ALMIGHTY FOR MS. GWEN --
GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
A REAL FRIEND.
A REAL LADY.
I REAL LADY.

SHE WAS DONE WRONG, DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, INCLUDING HER MAMA, SHE
TALKED TO ME ABOUT THAT.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
LET'S THINK POSITIVE AND LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE THE CITY
FORWARD AND LET'S TAKE CARE OF THE CRAs.
WE HAVE A BIG LOSS WITH HER NOT BEING THE CHAIR OF THE CRA.
10:02:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK.
LET'S DO TWO MINUTES JUST BECAUSE OF THE GOOD NUMBER OF
FOLKS THAT ARE HERE.
THAT IS A CREDIT TO THE LEGACY OF MS. HENDERSON.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:02:17AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
HOPE TO SAY CONDOLENCES TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SITTING
THERE VERY SOON.
YOU REALLY THINK BLACK PEOPLE ARE STUPID, ALL THE ACCOLADES.
10:02:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SIR, THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:02:47AM >> I'M TALKING ABOUT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:02:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THE CLOCK IS STOPPED.
I'M SPEAKING.
I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE TAILOR YOUR COMMENTS TO GWEN
HENDERSON.
YOU'LL HAVE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AFTERWARDS.

10:02:56AM >> ALL IN REFERENCE TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:02:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT.
GO AHEAD.
I'LL STOP YOU AGAIN IF I HAVE TO.
10:03:03AM >> REVEREND SCOTT CAME UP AND MADE HIS COMMENTS.
THE MAYOR MADE HER COMMENTS.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WHEN YOU SEND A NAVY SEAL TO JUMP
IN THAT WATER, THEY ARE VETTED.
THEY ARE CONDITIONED.
THEY ARE EVERYTHING.
WHEN THEY SENT GWEN HENDERSON TO SWIM IN THE WATER AGAINST
ORLANDO GUDES, THEY COULDN'T ENVISION THIS OUTCOME OF AN
AFRICAN WOMAN DYING AT 60.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOU THINK BLACK PEOPLE SO STUPID,
HER FAMILY NEED TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA,
THE MAYOR AND OTHER PEOPLE --
10:03:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SIR, THAT'S IT.
ATTORNEY SHEPHARD ON THE LINE?
I'M GOING TO RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER, SIR.
COME BACK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS ISN'T PROPER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:03:52AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TOO.
10:03:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
IS ATTORNEY SHEPHARD ON LINE?

10:03:57AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
YES, I AM.
10:03:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYTHING TO SAY OR GOOD TO GO?
10:04:03AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
THIS IS A SPECIFIC TOPIC.
IT WAS CERTAINLY I THINK A LITTLE FAR AFIELD OF THE PURPOSE.
AT THE RIGHT TIME, IF ASKED, I WILL GIVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT
RULES GENERALLY.
WHEN WE START GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WE CAN MAKE SURE WE
REFRESH THOSE RULES.
10:04:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
APPRECIATE YOU.
REVEREND, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:04:22AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
GWEN HENDERSON, GWEN I CALL HER.
WE BUMP HEADS.
WE BUMP HEADS A LOT BECAUSE I WANTED HER TO NOT TO LOOK AT
ME AS A MAN OF COLOR.
LOOK AT ME AS A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
WE BUMP HEADS A LOT.
THANK GOD I GOT A CHANCE TO MEET HER.
I FOUND OUT SHE WAS A VERY NICE WOMAN.
ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT SHE WAS A VERY

NICE PERSON.
DARLENE COME TO ME WHEN I GOT OFF THE ELEVATOR AND SHE WAS
HAPPY.
SHE SAID, PASTOR WILLIAMS, THEY APPROVE OF WHAT YOU WANT TO
HAVE DONE TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WAS HAPPY TOO.
YEAH, TO MY HOUSE.
WHEN I SAY NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
GWEN CALLED ME ON THE TELEPHONE, SAID, PASTOR WILLIAMS,
YOU'VE BEEN APPROVED.
I SAID THANK GOD FOR THAT.
THAT THING RUN FAST ON ME.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU ALL HAVE TO GIVE ME MORE TIME BECAUSE I'M HANDICAPPED
AND MY WORDS COME OUT A LOT SLOWER.
10:06:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE'LL GIVE YOU, REVEREND, 30 SECONDS EXTRA.
YOU'LL STILL GET MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:06:13AM >> THANK YOU.
IT'S ALL ABOUT NOW ABOUT GWEN HENDERSON.
IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU ALL.
IT'S NOT ABOUT PASTOR WILLIAMS AND IT'S NOT ABOUT
MS. HENDERSON, MS. JOHNSON.
IT'S ALL ABOUT HER.
WE KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE A HOME-GOING, AND IT WILL BE A

HOME-GOING.
YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING?
IT WILL BE A HAPPY HOME-GOING.
BECAUSE SHE'S DONE WHAT SHE COULD IN TAMPA, AND SHE DID THE
BEST SHE COULD.
I'M GRATEFUL TO GOD FOR HER.
GOD HAS BLESSED US ALL IN A MIGHTY WAY.
I'M STILL HERE AND PUSHING --
10:06:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
REVEREND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU CAN COME BACK AT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR MORE.
BUT WE'RE LIMITING THIS TO TWO MINUTES.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.
10:07:03AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10:07:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOD BLESS YOU.
THANK YOU.
10:07:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILWOMAN AND COUNCILMEN.
RYAN HAYES.
I WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY, CONSTITUENTS,
FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS AS WELL.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON REALLY INSPIRED ME.
I ASKED FOR A MEETING WITH HER.
I HAD A MEETING WITH HER MARCH 31st.
I WAS ABLE TO MEET HER IN HER OFFICE.
WE HAD ABOUT A 30-MINUTE CONVERSATIONS.
JUST INSIGHTFUL CONVERSATION THAT WE SHARED.

IT WAS HEARTFELT.
I ON BEHALF OF CAIRO AND FRIENDS FROM HERE ON OUT, THIS IS
NOT A FUND-RAISER OR ANYTHING, I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY
EVERY YEAR THAT THE BLACK ENGLISH BOOKSTORE IS STILL
STANDING, I WOULD LIKE TO BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTS TO
BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH FAMILY MEMBERS AND SO FORTH TO GIVE
OUT SCHOOL SUPPLIES TO THE LOCAL CHILDREN AND ESPECIALLY
JEFFERSON AS WELL, JUST TO KEEP HER LEGACY GOING AND MAKE
SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RECIPROCATED TO OUR
COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, MY CONDOLENCES.
POSITIVE ENERGY AND VIBRATIONS SENT TO ALL OF YOU ALL.
HER FAMILY MEMBERS AND SO FORTH.
THAT'S IT.
AGAIN, POSITIVE ENERGY.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
10:08:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:08:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEVE MICHELINI.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GWEN USED TO SAY TO ME WAS,
MICHELINI, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
IT WASN'T CAN WE DO THIS.
IT'S WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
ANYWAY, THIS IS FOR -- GWEN WAS A CHILD OF GOD WHO WELCOMED

OTHERS AND ALL-EMBRACING LOVE.
SHE BLAZED TRAILS, MENTORED HER STUDENTS AND LET NOTHING
DISSUADE HER PASSION.
WHEN SHE SPOKE, OTHERS LISTENED AND ACTED.
WHEN SHE SAW DIFFICULTY, SHE ADDRESSED IT AND RIGHTED IT.
WHEN SHE SAW ADVERSITY, SHE ATTACKED IT.
SHE WAS BLESSED WITH AN INQUISITIVE MIND AND WAS NEVER
AFRAID TO ASK THE QUESTION.
AS A CHILD OF GOD, SHE WAS WRAPPED IN HIS LOVING ARMS AND
WAS BLESSED.
SHE GAVE TO OTHERS LIKE NO OTHERS AND RECEIVED THEIR LOVE IN
RETURN.
SHE SHARED HER BLESSINGS WITH OTHERS AS IF THERE WERE NO END
TO IT AND HER DEVOTION WAS UNCONDITIONAL.
WHEN SHE TRIED TO UNDERSTAND THE PASSING OF A FRIEND,
COLLEAGUE, OR LOVED ONE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, AND
THERE IS NO ADEQUATE ANSWER.
IT RARELY COMES WHEN IT'S EXPECTED AND ALWAYS FAR TOO SOON.
WE LONG FOR THAT MEETING, THAT LAST DISCUSSION, THAT LAST
ENCOUNTER.
ALTHOUGH SHE IS GONE, SHE LIVES ON THROUGH OUR MEMORIES.
DON'T ASK TO UNDERSTAND.
IT'S NOT UP TO US.
WE ARE PLANTED ON THIS EARTH WITH NO SCRIPT.
WE WRITE OUR OWN.

IT'S FILLED WITH PROMISE AND HEARTBREAK AND EQUAL MEASURES
AND MASTERS OF OUR FATE.
PLEASE LET ME CONTINUE.
THE STRUGGLE OF LIFE AND THE LEGACY AND THE MASTERY OF OUR
AGENDA IS LEFT TO US AND OTHERS AS WE INTERACT WITH THEM.
OUR LIVES ARE MEASURED BY WHAT WE LEAVE BEHIND.
GWEN'S BOOK IS FULL AND YET UNFINISHED HERE.
WE WILL MISS HER HEARTY LAUGH, HER INFECTIOUS SMILE, AND THE
LOVE OF HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS, STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY, NOT
THE LEAST OF WHICH IS TAMPA.
THE GOOD LORD WANTED HER AND TOOK HER IN TO PERFORM GOOD
DEEDS AND BE IN HIS LOVING ARMS.
10:10:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
15 SECONDS.
10:10:37AM >> GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU, GWEN.
YOU WILL BE MISSED.
GOD BLESS, RESPECTFULLY.
THANK YOU.
10:10:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
10:10:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
VALERIE BULLOCK.
HER NICKNAME FOR ME WAS PONCE De LEON BECAUSE EVERY TIME I
GET UP TO TALK, I'M FROM PONCE De LEON, COLLEGE HILL.
ANYWHERE SHE SEE ME, SHE GOES THERE'S PONCE De LEON.

ONE THING I CAN SAY ABOUT COUNCILWOMAN, EDUCATION WAS IN HER
DNA.
IT'S NOT THAT SHE WAS AN EDUCATOR.
IT WAS JUST PART OF WHO SHE WAS.
AND SHE REALLY TRIED TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
I KNOW ONE DAY WE WAS IN HERE, AND I WAS GOING BACK AND
FORTH ABOUT THE CRA NOT DOING ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME IN
EAST TAMPA.
CEDRIC GOT UP HERE TO TALK, SHE KEPT CUTTING CEDRIC OFF.
CEDRIC, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THIS, CEDRIC, COULD YOU EXPLAIN
THAT?
I KNOW SHE AIN'T TRYING TO LECTURE ME FROM UP THERE, BUT SHE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS.
I HAVE A LOT OF ADMIRATION AND RESPECT FOR HER AS AN
EDUCATOR BECAUSE YOU MIGHT KNOW HOW TO PLAY BASKETBALL, BUT
YOU'RE NOT EDUCATED ON EVERYTHING.
YOU HAVE TO RESPECT PEOPLE FOR THEIR EXPERTISE AND THAT IS
WHAT I DID.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
10:12:01AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:12:07AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION.
I WANT TO EXTEND MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

VERY BRIEF, THE FIRST TIME I MET GWEN HENDERSON SHE WALKED
INTO MY OFFICE.
VICE PRESIDENTS ABOUT MY HEIGHT, 6'2".
SHE WALKED IN THE DOOR, IMMEDIATELY DRAGGED US BY THE NECK
DOWN TO OUR HEIGHT AND HUGGED US AND TOLD US THIS IS WHY
YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPORT US IN THE RACE.
NO SMALL FEAT.
SHE WAS RUNNING AGAINST AN ACTIVE CITY COUNCILMAN WHO WAS A
FORMER TAMPA POLICE OFFICER.
WE DID SUPPORT HER IN THAT RACE.
AND THERE WERE SOME DISGUSTING THINGS SAID ABOUT HER.
WE STOOD BY HER AND I'M PROUD OF IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:12:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
MR. HEARNS, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:12:53AM >> GOOD MORNING TO THE CRA BOARD, CITY OF TAMPA STAFF AND
EVERYONE HERE ASSEMBLED TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE RESPECT
AND THE LOVE, THE ADMIRATION THAT WE ALL HAD FOR CITY
COUNCIL WOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
THE DAY I MET HER IS THE DAY I ENDORSED HER IN HER CAMPAIGN.
DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HER, BUT THERE WAS JUST SOMETHING
ABOUT HER.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, SHE WAS A DELTA.
SO THAT WENT A LONG WAY.

I'M AN OMEGA PSI PHI FRATERNITY MAN AND THESE ARE OUR
SISTERS.
THE MORE I GOT TO KNOW HER, I SAID THIS WOMAN IS DYNAMIC.
SHE IS GOING TO MAKE A GREAT IMPACT ON THIS CITY, AND SHE
DID.
YESTERDAY, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES TO
THE FAMILY AND TO DARLENE WHO I THINK I CALLED DARLENE JUST
ABOUT EVERY WEEK.
I DON'T WANT TO BOTHER GWEN, BUT THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE
FOR YOU TO SHARE WITH HER.
EVERY TIME WE INVITED HER TO AN ACTIVITY THAT TAMPA'S BLACK
HISTORY MUSEUM HAD, SHE WAS THERE.
BACK IN OCTOBER, I MOVED BACK TO TAMPA.
I HAD BEEN LIVING IN ST. PETERSBURG FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS,
BUT I'M BACK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I GREW UP IN DISTRICT FIVE,
HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
AND WE HAD A REUNION THREE YEARS AGO.
WE NEVER HAD A BELMONT HEIGHTS REUNION.
GWEN MADE OUR SHIRTS.
GWEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
THE LAST TIME I SAW HER WAS AT PERRY HARVEY PARK AT A RIBBON
CUTTING, AND I WAS RUNNING A LITTLE LATE COMING FROM ANOTHER
MEETING, AND EVERYTHING WENT FINE, BUT AS WE WERE LEAVING
THE FIELD OVER AT PERRY HARVEY PARK, SHE SAID, NOW, YOU
KNOW, FRED, YOU WERE LATE.

YOU MADE US WAIT OUT IN THE 90-DEGREE HOT SUN FOR ALMOST 30
MINUTES.
SHE SAID IT WITH A SMILE ON HER FACE, BUT SHE WAS RIGHT.
BUSINESS IS BUSINESS.
SHE WAS ALL ABOUT BUSINESS AND LOVE.
10:14:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
30 MORE SECONDS.
10:15:01AM >> I'LL END TO SAY.
I AGREE.
I REALLY DO HOPE YOU WILL TAKE INTO SERIOUS CONSIDERATION
THOSE PROJECTS, PET PROJECTS THAT SHE LOVED AND THAT SHE
WORKED FOR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:15:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
MR. PROBASCO, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:15:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I THINK ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THINGS ABOUT A SAD DAY
LIKE TODAY IS YOU DO SEE THE BREADTH OF THE LIVES THAT
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON TOUCHED.
I THINK YOU HEARD A LOT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT YOU HAVEN'T
HEARD FROM THE JEWISH COMMUNITY YET.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS A DEAR FRIEND TO OUR JEWISH
COMMUNITY.
ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTERS AND
FEDERATION, OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, OUR STAFF, AND THE

ENTIRE JEWISH COMMUNITY, WE EXTEND OUR HEARTFELT CONDOLENCES
TO THE FAMILY, FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES OF COUNCILWOMAN
GWENDOLYN HENDERSON ON HER UNTIMELY PASSING.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S KINDNESS, DEDICATION, AND SERVICE
UPLIFTED OUR CITY AND INSPIRED ALL WHO KNEW HER.
THE LATE RABBI JONATHAN SAX ONCE OBSERVED, THE PEOPLE MOST
MOURNED WERE PEOPLE WHO ENHANCED THE LIVES OF OTHERS.
THEY WERE KIND.
YOU COULD RELY ON THEM.
THEY HAD A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY WERE PART OF A COMMUNITY LIVING ITS VALUES, SHARING ITS
GRIEFS AND CELEBRATIONS.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON TRULY EMBODIED THIS SPIRIT.
LED BY LIFTING OTHERS, STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH
HER COMPASSION AND COMMITMENT.
MAY WE HONOR HER LEGACY BY BUILDING A MORE CARING TAMPA
TOGETHER.
MAY HER MEMORY ALWAYS BE A BLESSING.
THANK YOU.
10:16:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
MS. TATE.
10:16:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
FRAN TATE, PRESIDENT OF THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION AND A MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA CAC BOARD.

ON BEHALF OF JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND
THE EAST TAMPA CAC BOARD, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS
CONDOLENCES TO ALL OF YOU, HER COLLEAGUES, TO HER FAMILY,
THE MAYOR, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY OF DISTRICT FIVE.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND I ARE SISTERS IN CHRIST, AND I
RESPECTED HER FOR THAT.
I WISH WE COULD HAVE BEEN A WHOLE LOT CLOSER, BUT IT WAS
COMING.
IT WAS COMING.
I DID NOT SERVE ON HER CAMPAIGN.
I SERVED ON ANOTHER CAMPAIGN, HER OPPONENT.
THE DAY SHE RECEIVED HER INAUGURATION, I COULDN'T MAKE IT TO
THAT BUT I RUSHED DOWN HERE TO CONGRATULATE HER WHEN SHE
BECAME THE CHAIR OF THE CRA.
LIKE I SAID, WE WEREN'T ON THE TAME TEAM, BUT I RESPECTED
HER BECAUSE SHE WAS MY COUNCILWOMAN.
I AM SO SORRY FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HER.
I REALLY WANTED TO GET TO KNOW HER A WHOLE LOT BETTER AND WE
PROBABLY WOULD HAVE, BUT IT JUST TOOK TIME.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
10:18:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING YOUR HEART.
MR. STOCCO.
THEN MS. LOCKETT.
AND MS. BURTON.

ANYONE ELSE?
GREAT.
IF YOU ALL COULD STAND UP IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO AND LINE
UP SO WE KNOW.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:18:34AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
I THINK PRESIDENT TATE MIGHT HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT MY NOTES
BECAUSE SHE SPOKE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD IN COMMON.
HOWEVER, ON BEHALF OF THE FIREFIGHTERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
WE DO WANT TO EXTEND OUR CONDOLENCES TO NOT ONLY HER
COLLEAGUES AND HER COWORKERS AND TO DARLENE, BUT ALSO HER
FAMILY AND KNOW THAT IF ANYTHING IS NEEDED WE WOULD BE THERE
IN SUPPORT.
WE SHARED IT WITH THE CHAIRMAN ON THE TUESDAY MORNING, BUT
WE TRULY MEAN THAT.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US.
THANK YOU.
AS FOR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WE HAD A UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP.
IT DID START OUT EARLY.
WE MAY HAVE NOT ALWAYS SEEN EYE TO EYE OR MAY NOT HAVE
AGREED ON THE SAME TOPICS, BUT WHERE I TRULY FELT AND
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS HER STRENGTH, HER PASSION, AND
HER FEARLESSNESS AS A COUNCILWOMAN IN HER DISTRICT.
HER PASSIONATE KIND OF RESEMBLED THE PASSION WE CARRY, WHICH

IS WHY I NEVER TOOK IT PERSONAL COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
I TOOK IT AS BUSINESS AND I KNEW THAT SHE WAS DOING HER JOB
AND THAT SHE DID HER JOB WELL.
AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE FIREFIGHTERS, WE EXTEND OUR
CONDOLENCES AND THANK YOU.
10:20:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PRESIDENT STOCCO, I WANTED TO ADDRESS YOU
PERSONALLY AND THANK, FOR YOUR MEMBERSHIP ON BEHALF OF THE
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE CRA BOARD, IT WAS YOUR MEMBERS
THAT RESPONDED TO THE MEDICAL EMERGENCY FOR OUR COLLEAGUE,
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ON BEHALF OF US, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND HOW
GRATEFUL WE ARE FOR YOUR WORK THAT YOUR MEMBERS DID THAT
MORNING.
ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:20:35AM >> THANK YOU.
10:20:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
MS. LOCKETT, GO AHEAD.
AND THEN IF I MAY, AFTER MS. LOCKETT, WE HAVE CHIEF TRIPP
WHO IS VIRTUALLY AND WISHES TO SPEAK.
10:20:45AM >> SHE CAN GO BEFORE ME.
10:20:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
CHIEF TRIPP, IF YOU ARE THERE, YOU MAY GO FORWARD, MA'AM.
IF YOU ARE READY.
OKAY.
MS. LOCKETT, GO AHEAD AND THEN WE'LL HAVE CHIEF TRIPP.

IF SHE'S AVAILABLE.
10:21:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ROBIN LOCKETT, FLORIDA RISING.
MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.
MY HEART IS FULL.
I RECEIVED THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE COUNCILWOMAN --
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S PASSING EARLY TUESDAY MORNING.
AND WE WERE SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH HER 5:30 THAT AFTERNOON.
SO IT WAS A SHOCK FOR ME.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY THE MONDAY PRIOR, THE
PREVIOUS MONDAY.
THEY ASKED ME, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GWEN HENDERSON?
I WOULD GET THAT QUESTION.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GWEN HENDERSON?
I WOULD SAY I LIKE GWEN.
I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HER FILL THAT SEAT TO ITS
CAPACITY BECAUSE SHE WAS BOLD ENOUGH TO SAY THINGS THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE WOULDN'T SAY AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAD
STATED.
SHE KNEW THAT I WAS -- I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THE YELLOW JACKETS.
YOU TALK ABOUT LEGACIES, CONTINUING THE LEGACY, THE
EXPECTATION IS THAT IS ONE THING SHE WAS WORKING ON AND YOU
GUYS CONTINUE WITH HER NOT BEING HERE TO SUPPORT THAT
LEGACY.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOT THE HIJACKED

NAME OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR
THE COMMUNITY IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
WATCHING HER ON THE DAIS WAS INTERESTING A WHOLE LOT OF
TIMES, RIGHT, AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
LIKE I SAID, SHE WOULD SAY THINGS THAT NO ONE ELSE COULD
SAY.
THINGS THAT SHE CARED ABOUT.
I LOVED THE FACT -- WHEN YOU ALL WERE GIVING AWAY MONEY, SHE
WAS SAYING, OH, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU ALL GIVE AWAY THAT MUCH
MONEY?
I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND GIVE MORE MONEY TOO.
BUT IT WAS ABOUT THAT EQUITY, THINGS THAT WEREN'T DONE.
I APPLAUD THE FACT THAT SHE TOOK IT UPON HERSELF TO CHANGE
THE POLICY WITH JULIAN B. LANE, WHEN CATERERS WERE REQUIRED
TO HAVE ALCOHOL LICENSE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
AND SHE ROLLED IT BACK.
SO THAT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS FOR HER.
BUT SHE WILL BE MISSED.
I HOPE WHOEVER RUNS OR GETS IN THAT SEAT HAS THE SAME
TENACITY THAT SHE DID, AND CARES ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
10:23:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
I KNOW CHIEF TRIPP WAS WORKING ON GETTING -- IS SHE THERE.
GREAT.

GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE NOW TWO MORE SPEAKERS.
THERE IS ANOTHER GENTLEMAN.
10:24:00AM >> HI.
MIMI MARTINEZ.
I LIVE IN YBOR HEIGHTS.
FIRST, I WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AND
FRIENDS OF MS. HENDERSON.
I ALSO WANT TO LET EVERYBODY PUBLICLY KNOW THAT SHE HAS BEEN
A STRONG SUPPORTER OF YBOR HEIGHTS AND VM YBOR.
I FIRST MET GWEN ON THE NIGHT THAT SHE WON.
I WAS IN YBOR, AT GUIDO MANISCALCO'S WATCH PARTY.
I KNEW THAT SHE WAS HAVING A WATCH PARTY AT 7th AND GROVE.
WENT DOWN AND CONGRATULATED HER.
SHE WAS THRILLED BECAUSE SHE SAID I WAS HER FIRST
CONSTITUENT TO CONGRATULATE HER.
WE EXCHANGED CONTACT AND KEPT IN CLOSE COMMUNICATION EVER
SINCE.
SHE INVITED ME TO HER BLACK ENGLISH OPENING OF HER
BOOKSTORE.
I HAD A MEETING WITH HER AT HER BOOKSTORE.
HAD A MEETING WITH HER IN HER OFFICE.
I TEXT DARLENE ALL THE TIME AND TALK TO DARLENE ON THE
PHONE.
SHE'S SMILING BECAUSE SHE KNOWS I WAS ALWAYS IN HER EAR.

I JUST SAW HER.
WE HAD TUESDAY TPD EVENT, SIGNAL 87 AT RAGAN PARK CENTER.
SHE WAS THERE.
I WAS IN HER EAR TALKING ABOUT NEBRASKA SAVE.
SHE WOULD BACK ME UP AND BIG SUPPORTER OF BORRELL PARK AND
DEVELOPING NEBRASKA AVENUE.
I LOVED THAT SHE WAS CHAIR OF CRA.
HE WOULD LISTEN TO EVERYBODY'S OPINION AND VALUE EVERYBODY'S
PERSPECTIVE.
SHE MAY NOT HAVE VOTED THE WAY I WANTED HER TO BUT SHE
ALWAYS LISTENED AND WAS A BIG SUPPORTER.
SHE WILL BE SORELY MISSED.
10:25:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
CHIEF TRIPP.
MS. BURTON, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
TWO THINGS I WANTED TO SAY BEFORE, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE
FLAG WILL FLY AT HALF-STAFF TODAY IN HONOR OF LATE
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING THIS TIME OUT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY
ON THE LEGACY OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BECAUSE IT'S SO
IMPORTANT TO PAY TRIBUTE TO HER.
WE'RE TAKING OUR TIME OUT ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT
THING TO DO AND IT'S IMPORTANT.
MS. BURTON.
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:26:07AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
TO HER FAMILY, MY DEEPEST CONDOLENCES.
TO HER AIDE, DARLENE, THAT WAS REALLY A SOLID ROCK AS I SAW
IT.
SOMEBODY WHO SOFTENED BRIDGE OF APPROACH.
ANYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT AFRICAN WOMEN, WE CAN SCREAM
AND END, IT WOULDN'T BE OUR OPINION OF EACH OTHER.
MY SADNESS COMES FROM THE FACT THAT HER SHORT LIFE SPAN
REPRESENTS WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY DAY BY DAY.
THE FACT THAT MANY BLACK FOLKS, LIKE MS. HENDERSON DON'T GET
A CHANCE TO ENJOY THEIR RETIREMENT.
DON'T GET A CHANCE TO ENJOY LIFE TO THE FULLEST BECAUSE
WE'RE ALWAYS CONSTANTLY DEALING WITH STRESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS DEALING WITH STRESS AS IT RELATES TO
HOW BLACK FOLKS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH QUALITY HOUSING, HOW WE
DON'T HAVE JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
HOW WE SEE INFLUX OF INCARCERATION OF OUR PEOPLE.
HOW WE DON'T SEE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE HAVING A FUTURE.
IF I WAS IN HER EAR, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
NOT NOTHING PERSONAL, BUT HOW DO BLACK LIVES IMPROVE AND HOW
DO THE QUALITY OF OUR PEOPLE IMPROVE.
FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO BE INTERNALLY MISSING HER BECAUSE AT
LEAST WE KNEW SHE WOULD LISTEN TO THAT.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE GET BEYOND THE GRIEF PART.

HOW WOULD YOU THEN CARRY OUT HER LEGACY.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
WHAT IS THIS MAYOR PREPARED TO DO?
BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER STACKING OF THE DECK AGAINST
THE COMMUNITY, BUT WHAT WE NEED IS SOMEBODY THAT WILL BE
COMPASSIONATE.
10:27:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
APPRECIATE YOU.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, NO ONE ELSE IN THE ROOM IS HERE TO
SPEAK, CORRECT?
JUST MAKING SURE.
IS CHIEF TRIPP AVAILABLE?
10:28:06AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:28:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU.
CHIEF TRIPP, JUST ONE SECOND, IF I MAY, MA'AM.
THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE VIRTUALLY ON PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK SOLELY
ON COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:28:23AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
10:28:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
IT WOULD APPEAR NOT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING.
CHIEF TRIPP, GO FOR IT, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

10:28:33AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
THIS IS CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF AT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING PRESENT DUE TO ANOTHER
COMMITMENT.
I COULDN'T GO A DAY WITHOUT GIVING HONOR AND RESPECT TO
COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
SHE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A CHAMPION FOR ME SINCE I'VE BEEN IN
POSITION, SINCE I HAVE KNOWN HER.
SHE IS DEFINITELY A CHAMPION TO NOT ONLY WOMEN BUT
SUCCESSFUL WOMEN.
AND WOMEN WHO HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL, TO EMPOWER THEM TO
BE SUCCESSFUL.
EVERY EVENT THAT I ATTEND THAT SHE IS A PART OF, SHE ALWAYS
WELCOMED ME AND SAYS THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
NOT ONLY THAT, SHE ENCOURAGED ME TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE
MYSELF AND EXPOSE MYSELF AND MY CAREER SO OTHER INDIVIDUALS,
FOR THE GIRLS, BOYS COULD SEE THE SUCCESS, NOT ONLY FOR THE
AFRICAN AMERICAN RACE BUT ALL RACES.
SHE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN UNITY.
SHE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE TRULY MISSED FROM ME AS WELL
AS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE BECAUSE SHE WAS A CHAMPION FOR TAMPA
FIRE RESCUE, TO ASSIST US TO GET WHAT WE NEED TO GET.
I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO LIVE HER LEGACY AND CONTINUE TO
PUT MYSELF OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AS SHE LEFT HER NAME

AROUND TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD HER POSITIVITY AND
HER LOVE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU ALL FOR
HONORING HER TODAY.
GOD BLESS.
10:29:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP.
GOD BLESS YOU.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
YES, MA'AM, PLEASE.
GO AHEAD.
PLEASE.
10:30:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
SORRY.
I WAS AT MY DESK.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
KATRINA HOUSE, CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE
PRESIDENT.
I JUST WANTED TO OFFER MY CONDOLENCES TO THE ENTIRE CRA
BOARD, TO THE FAMILY.
JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS GOING TO
BE MISSED.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON REACHED OUT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE IN REFERENCE TO HER HBCU DAY.
SHE WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, KATRINA, YOU WANT ME TO SHOW UP FOR
YOU ALL, SO I NEED YOU ALL TO SHOW UP FOR ME.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.
WE GOT THE WORD OUT.
ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE HER DREAM A REALITY.
THE FIRST TIME SHE DID IT, SHE LIKED IT.
BUT SHE SAID IT WASN'T BIG ENOUGH.
SO SHE SAID THE NEXT TIME SHE SAID I WANT IT TO BE BIG.
I WANT IT TO BE GRAND.
SHE SAID AND EVERYBODY BETTER SHOW UP.
WELL, IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY WE
ALSO HAD AN EAST TAMPA CAC MEETING.
SOME OF US WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND.
BUT SISTER DARLENE WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WERE.
WE WERE LIKE WE'RE STILL DOING OUR BUSINESS.
THE NEXT DAY SHE SENT ME AN E-MAIL AND SHE SAID THAT SHE
APPRECIATED THE THOUGHTS THAT WE WERE WITH HER ON THAT
PARTICULAR DAY.
AND SHE APPRECIATE FOR US GETTING THE WORD OUT.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT SHE DID HAVE A BIG HEART.
WHEN WE ASKED HER TO COME OUT TO BELMONT HEIGHTS LITTLE
LEAGUE FOR OUR PLAYERS ALLIANCE DAY WHERE WE OFFER A CLINIC
RETIRED MLB PLAYERS TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, SHE
SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BUT I GUARANTEE YOU
CHARLIE IS GOING TO BE THERE TO REPRESENT ME.
AND SHE SAID AND WHEN HE GET THERE, YOU ALL BETTER TREAT HIM
RIGHT.

SO WHEN HE CAME, HE CAME AND HE HAD STORIES FROM THE
BEGINNING TO THE END OF TIME.
10:32:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
45 MORE SECONDS.
10:32:12AM >> WE APPRECIATED THAT BECAUSE THE NEXT DAY SHE WAS LIKE,
HOW DID HE DO?
I GAVE -- SHE SAID, I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO DO FINE.
THAT'S CHARLIE.
I JUST WANTED TO TELL EVERYBODY THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY,
WE WERE BLESSED TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE COUNCILMAN HENDERSON.
SHE WAS TRYING TO MAKE CHANGE.
WE APPRECIATOR AS BEING THE CHAIR OF THE TAMPA CRA OF WHICH
THAT IS MY NEW DEPARTMENT.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING IT IS THAT SHE HAS TRIED TO DO FOR
THIS COMMUNITY.
I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU GUYS DO
EVERYTHING IT IS THAT YOU GUYS CAN IN ORDER TO MAKE SOME OF
THOSE DREAMS STILL COME ALIVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
NOW I'M GOING BACK TO MY DESK.
10:32:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
GOD BLESS YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
GUYS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
AGAIN, FOR THE FAMILY AND THE LOVED ONES AND SO MANY OF THE
LATE COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON, THERE IS A CONTINUOUS

OUTPOURING OF LOVE.
THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF REMEMBERING THE LEGACY AND THE
LIFE AND THE VALUES AND THE HEART OF A WONDERFUL WOMAN.
I LOVE SONG LYRICS.
GREAT SONG BY BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, WHEN THEY SAID SIT DOWN,
THEY STOOD UP.
THAT'S COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
SHE NEVER SAT DOWN.
SHE ALWAYS STOOD UP.
JUST AN AMAZING PERSON.
WHAT WE'LL DO, SINCE THERE ARE FOLKS HERE JUST FOR THIS AND
WE DON'T WANT TO -- WE WANT TO HAVE A GOOD TRANSITION, WE'LL
TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE ADJOURNMENT AND THEN RETURN WITH MOTIONS,
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SO FORTH.
WE'LL TURN IN FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING FROM THE HEART AND GOD BLESS YOU.
[FIVE-MINUTE RECESS]
10:45:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEGINNING I GUESS IN 30 SECONDS.
OKAY.
ROLL CALL.
10:46:19AM >> MIRANDA?
10:46:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
10:46:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
10:46:23AM >> HURTAK?
CLENDENIN?

10:46:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PRESENT.
10:46:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
10:46:26AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
10:46:29AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
WE'VE RETURNED.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY
MEETING?
10:46:35AM >> SO MOVED.
10:46:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED I THINK BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:46:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SO SORRY.
I NEEDED TO MAKE A MOTION TO PULL SOME STUFF OUT.
10:46:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
SHOULD WE RESCIND THAT, THE MINUTES?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RESCIND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO -- YES
IS YOURS FOR MAY 8?
10:47:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, NO.
I'M SORRY.
I WANTED TO PULL SOMETHING TO SPEAK ABOUT TODAY.
MINUTES ARE FINE.
I APOLOGIZE.

I WAS RUNNING, TRYING TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE.
DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF CRA FUNDS REQUESTED, I WANT TO MOVE
AGENDA ITEMS 10 AND 13 TO STAFF REPORTS.
10:47:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ANY DISCUSSION?
10:47:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE DID PASS A
MOTION TO MOVE THESE UP, BUT IT JUST HADN'T STARTED YET.
WE DID MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT AND THEY WILL BE DOING
THAT FROM NOW ON.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PULLED THEM TODAY.
10:47:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UNLESS THERE'S DISCUSSION ON IT, ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
10:47:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHOULD WE MOVE THE REST OF THEM.
10:47:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST, CORRECT?
LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
PARDON ME, SINCE I DON'T USUALLY CHAIR CRA, DO WE HAVE A
STATEMENT READ ON PUBLIC COMMENT READ BEFORE IN CRA?
YES.
ATTORNEY SHEPHARD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR.
10:48:17AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
YES, SIR.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CRA MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON

THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CRA TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM.
HOWEVER, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS
PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS SUCH TIME FRAME IS MODIFIED
BY A VOTE OF THE CRA BOARD.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
PERSONAL ATTACKS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CRA FROM
OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CRA'S RULES MAY BE RULED
OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT DAY'S
CRA MEETING.
FINALLY, CRA BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THEY SHOULD
REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE CITY COUNCIL RULES REVISED JUNE 6, 2024, ARE NOW IN
EFFECT FOR THE CRA BOARD UNLESS OTHERWISE EXEMPTED OR
OVERRIDDEN BY THE CRA BOARD BYLAWS.
10:49:40AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE WHO ARE STANDING FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT.
WHO HERE IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HANDS?
GOOD.
AS MANY IS FINE.
JUST SO I KNOW.
PASTOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST, YOU MAY, SIR.
10:50:05AM >> I THANK GOD FOR EACH ONE OF YOU ALL.
THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME COME UP HERE FIRST, I DON'T
THINK YOU ALL GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME.
I'M GOING TO WATCH THAT CLOCK RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M SO HAPPY TO BE ALIVE.
87 YEARS OLD AND GOD HAS BEEN EXTREMELY GOOD TO ME.
I COME DOWN HERE WITH MY WALKER, TELLING ME MY TIME IS OUT,
SEEMS LIKE YOU WANT TO RUSH MY TIME OUT.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT IS SUPPORTING ME.
I THANK GOD FOR YOU.
MY PRAYERS ALWAYS GO UP FOR YOU.
A LOT OF THE MEMBERS HERE TOO.
THEY HAVE DONE THINGS FOR ME THAT I WOULDN'T THINK THEY
WOULD DO, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M HAPPY AND I'M CONTENTED.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I COME UP HERE, I COULD GIVE YOU ALL A BOOKFUL, BUT YOU
DON'T GIVE ME THAT KIND OF TIME.
THANK GOD FOR THE LITTLE TIME YOU ALL GIVE ME.

I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE JACKSON HEIGHTS FOR YEARS.
YOU ALL STILL HAVEN'T TORN THAT DOWN YET.
THE MAYOR WAS HERE.
IS SHE STILL HERE?
SHOULD HAVE TOLD HER DIRECTLY.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO.
IT'S IN BAD SHAPE.
GO BY THAT EVERY DAY AND STILL SEE IT UP.
WE NEED TO TEAR IT DOWN.
NOT ONLY THAT, A LOT OF THE POND YOU MADE OUT THERE, CALLED
A RETENTION POND, WE WANT YOU ALL TO FILL THEM UP SO I COULD
BUILD MY CHURCH BACK UP OVER THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M GRATEFUL TO GOD FOR HIM TO LET ME LIVE TO TELL YOU ALL.
YOU DON'T SEEM TO GET NOTHING DONE.
I'LL HAVE TO KEEP SPEAKING.
I KNOW ONE OF THESE DAYS MY TIME IS GOING TO BE UP, BUT I
AIN'T WORRYING ABOUT MY TIME BEING UP.
MY TIME BEING HERE.
I'LL KEEP SPEAKING ABOUT THE ISSUE.
I THANK GOD THAT I'M STILL HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ISSUE.
I THANK GOD FOR YOU ALL GIVING ME THE THREE SECONDS WHERE I
CAN DEFEND MYSELF AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS ALL
RIGHT.
NOW, WHEN WE COME IN -- I SAY, YEAH, I GOT SOMETHING.
I GOT THIS HANDICAP WHEEL THAT HELP ME WALK BACK AND FORTH.

I GOT MY KEYS IN MY POCKET.
THEY AIN'T GOING TO FIND NOTHING ON ME.
I CAN'T DO NOTHING.
I CAN'T RUN NO MORE.
I CAN'T HARDLY WALK NO MORE.
BUT YET THEY WANT ME TO COME THROUGH THE SCREEN AND
INVESTIGATE, HEY -- YEAH, I GOT MY MONEY IN MY POCKET.
OKAY.
I'M THROUGH.
10:53:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
PASTOR, GOD BLESS YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU.
NEXT.
10:53:25AM >> MS. GWEN, GOOD TO EVERYBODY.
WE GOT TO THANK HIM SOMETIME NOW.
10:53:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:53:36AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
WANT TO SAY UHURU.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE AND ALL PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE
THINKING ABOUT OUR FREEDOM.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, YOU CAN COME DOWN TO THIS CITY
COUNCIL AND WATCH ALL KIND OF DISPARITIES AND EXPERIENCE IT.
WHEN I'M SPEAKING, THERE'S SOMETHING, BLACK PEOPLE CAN'T

ARTICULATE ON THAT OTHER LEVEL.
YOU ALL ACCUSTOMED TO TALKING TO BLACK PEOPLE ABOUT DUMB
STUFF, COLONIAL STUFF.
COLONIAL BASKETBALL, COLONIAL SPORTS, WHO CAN RUN COLONIAL
TRACK, COLONIAL EDUCATION, COLONIAL FOOLISHNESS, COLONIAL
GOSSIP.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHEN THE AFRICAN PERSON TRY TO
ELEVATE THE CONVERSATION YOU SHUT THEM DOWN.
YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU SHOULD THEM DOWN.
THOUSANDS OF AFRICAN PEOPLE KILLED AT NIGHTCLUBS AND BLACK
FAMILIES NEVER KNEW TO SUE THE NIGHTCLUB OWNER. YOU ALL
KILLED GWEN HENDERSON BY PUTTING HER OUT THERE IN THAT WATER
AND YOU THINK I'M NOT GOING TO ANNOUNCE THAT HER FAMILY NEED
TO FILE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE MAYOR.
PUT HER UP AGAINST A NASTY RACE AGAINST ORLANDO GUDES,
DISPARAGING ALL AFRICAN MEN AND THE RESULT IS DEAD AT 60.
ALL THE DISPARITIES THAT GOES ON IN AFRICAN PEOPLE'S LIVES.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
YOU DON'T WANT US TO BRING THAT TO THE FOREFRONT.
DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT REPARATIONS, CHILD SUPPORT, THAT IT
IS EUGENICS.
YOU ALL CLOWNS DOWN HERE.
FOR TWO HOURS TALKING ABOUT GWEN HENDERSON.
DON'T NOBODY IN THE HOOD KNOW GWEN HENDERSON.
ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOBODY IN THE HOOD WHO KNOW GWEN

HENDERSON IS.
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON.
YOU ALL COULD TALK ABOUT SORORITIES AND FRATERNITIES AND HOW
YOU KEEP THOSE AFRICANS, THOSE PUPPET AFRICANS BUT GO IN THE
HOOD RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW OUR CITY
REPRESENTATIVE IS DEAD.
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT.
BUT YOU ALL HAVING A TRIBUTE TO PUPPETISM.
NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE DEAD IN PALESTINE AND THE CLOWNS
HERE AT CITY COUNCIL CAN'T SAY A SINGLE WORD ABOUT IT.
BUT YOU ALL TALK ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
YOU TALK ABOUT INHUMANITY TO OTHER KINDS OF THINGS.
YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING SOME LIGHTS ON THE RIVERWALK, BUT YOU
ALL CAN'T TALK ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE DEAD IN
PALESTINE.
GENOCIDE.
INSTANT GENOCIDE.
CAN'T TALK ABOUT SLOW NEGRO GENOCIDE WITH THE CHILD SUPPORT
SITUATION.
IT IS HORRENDOUS, DRIVING AFRICAN MEN F-IN' CRAZY.
DRIVING AFRICAN MEN CRAZY.
AND AFRICAN WOMEN SNITCHING THINKING THEY ARE GETTING
SOMETHING OUT OF THE DEAL.
MAKING ALL AFRICAN FAMILIES DYSFUNCTIONAL.

TIGHTEN UP AND STOP PLAYING BLACK PEOPLE WICK WE'RE STUPID.
I AM THE FIRST TO SAY IT.
YEAH, I'M BLACK AND I'M STUPID.
THE MAYOR SAY, OH, SHE HAD FAMILY MEMBERS THAT CAN'T READ,
825 YEARS OF OPPRESSION.
10:56:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT, PLEASE.
10:56:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
SURGRET DOSS.
I'LL TRY TO REMAIN CALIBRATED IN HONOR OF MY FELLOW DRAGON
AND ALSO GRADUATE OF FLORIDA A & M UNIVERSITY WHICH MY
DAUGHTER RECEIVED HER DOCTORATE IN PHARMACY FROM.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, I WALKED IN HERE, THE FIRST PERSON I
SEE IS THE SAME GUY WHO FALSELY ACCUSED ME OF A CRIME.
THE VERY SAME GUY AND THE MAYOR.
THE PRIOR MAYOR WHO SEEMS TO BE RUNNING FOR MAYOR AGAIN,
ODDLY ENOUGH -- IT'S BLURRY I GUESS, TO FALSELY ACCUSE ME OF
THE CRIME.
I'M SHOWING YOU WHAT IT TAKES SURE THE ATTORNEYS OVER HERE
UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO SUBSTITUTE AS COUNSEL ON A CASE.
WHEN THE CITY OF TAMPA POLICE FORCE SENT THEIR GOON TO
REMOVE ME FROM MY HOUSE, NONE OF THE RULES WERE FOLLOWED.

LOOK AT THE SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL, SUPPOSEDLY DONE BY THE
BANK, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NAME MICHAEL WIRE, ODDLY ENOUGH
THAT NAME IS MISSING FROM THIS LIST OF HOUSES.
I DON'T THINK IT'S BY ACCIDENT.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S BY ACCIDENT EITHER THAT WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THIS, THE COMPLAINT WAS FILED BY MORRIS SNYDER, THAT
FIRM'S HEAD ATTORNEY WENT TO PRISON EMBEZZLING MONEY FROM
HIS CLIENTS.
IN BETWEEN HERE AND THERE, NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY COUNSEL,
YOU'RE MISSING THE SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL.
KIND OF INTERESTING.
I DON'T MAKE THE RULES.
THERE ARE A FEW ATTORNEYS IN HERE.
BUT IF THERE'S NOT AN ORDER AND A HEARING, THE COUNSEL
COULDN'T SUBSTITUTE.
IF YOU LOOK HIGHER ON THIS SHEET, YOU'LL SEE THE NAME OF
THIS GUY GREG HOLDER.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO IMAGINE IF A BLACK MAYOR'S BLACK
SECURITY GUARD OR HEAD OF SECURITY WAS CONTACTED BY A BLACK
JUDGE TO REMOVE A WHITE DISABLED AMERICAN VETERAN FROM HIS
HOME THAT THE DAUGHTER THAT IS NOW A DOCTOR WAS IN,
ATTENDING BERKELEY, BY THE WAY, BERKELEY HIGH SCHOOL, IF YOU
ALL WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THAT KIND OF INJUSTICE.
WE ALL KNOW YOU WOULDN'T.
I USED A TERM LAST WEEK THAT PEOPLE SAY, MAN, I CAN'T

BELIEVE YOU SAID THE WORD CRACK OUT THERE.
I SAY I DON'T KNOW WHY NOT.
BASICALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND, SARASOTA, WHITE MEN
FOLLOWING YOUNG BLACK MEN.
YOUNG BLACK BOYS THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE NEED TO BE AS COMFORTABLE SAYING CRACK AS EVERYBODY
SAYING -- A JUDGE CALLED ME -- DON'T ARGUE WITH THIS CRACKER
IN THE COURTROOM.
MY CONDOLENCES TO MY CLASSMATE SONYA.
MY CONDOLENCES TO THE HENDERSON FAMILY AND DRAGON NATION.
SHOUT-OUT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:59:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, NEXT, PLEASE.
10:59:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS EDDIE SUAREZ.
I HAVE LIVED HERE IN TAMPA MOST OF MY LIFE.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER 10 ON YOUR
AGENDA, THE URBAN REWORX PROJECT ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE.
THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS MORE THAN JUST BRICKS AND MORTARS.
THIS IS A STEP TOWARD CORRECTING LONG-STANDING INEQUITIES IN
HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS IS A CHANCE FOR US TO GIVE BACK TO THE VERY PEOPLE WHO
MAKE THIS CITY RUN, OUR TEACHERS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR
HEALTH CARE WORKERS.
THE VERY PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE AT CITY HALL, BY MAKING SURE
THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT

THEY SERVE.
THIS PROJECT IS ROOTED IN SMART PLANNING.
IT'S NOT JUST AFFORDABLE, IT'S ACCESSIBLE.
BY LOCATING IT ON NEBRASKA AVENUE, WHICH IS A CRITICAL
TRANSIT CORRIDOR CONNECTING DOWNTOWN TO MANY OF OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS, THIS IS THE KIND OF THOUGHTFUL CONNECTED
DEVELOPMENT THAT WE NEED.
IT'S FISCALLY SOUND.
FOR EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED BY YOU, THE RETURN IS 12-FOLD.
IT MEANS THAT YOUR SUPPORT WILL RIPPLE FORWARD TO THE NEXT
PROJECT AND THE ONE AFTER THAT.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY NOT JUST TO BUILD HOUSING, BUT TO BUILD
MOMENTUM.
AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A LAWYER HERE IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
I SPENT MY ENTIRE CAREER IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
LITTLE BIT AS A PROSECUTOR, MOSTLY AS A DEFENSE LAWYER.
I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE FIRSTHAND THE PRESSURES THAT OUR
FAMILIES FACE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING.
THE VERY PEOPLE THAT ARE THE SUPPORT STAFF, THAT RUN OUR
COURTHOUSE HAVE TROUBLE MAKING RENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND
RENT KEEPS GOING UP AND UP.
PROJECTS LIKE REWORX CAN EASE THAT BURDEN AND MAKE A REAL
DIFFERENCE.
I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP OF

THIS PROJECT AND TO TALK ABOUT THAD BEREDAY.
KNOWN HIM MORE THAN A DECADE.
FIRST MET HIM WHEN HE CAME AS A CLIENT AND NOW DELIGHTED TO
COUNT HIM AS A FRIEND.
WHEN I FIRST MET THAD, HE WAS A LONG WAY FROM THE HIGHEST
LEVELS OF COUNTERPART LEADERSHIP HE ONCE HAD.
LOST HIS CAREER, LOST HIS REPUTATION, SUFFERED BATTLES WITH
CANCER NOT ONCE BUT TWICE.
THE MAN I MET EMERGED FROM THOSE EXPERIENCES WITH A PROFOUND
SENSE OF PURPOSE, A PURPOSE TO SERVE.
HIS STORY IS ONE OF REDEMPTION, RESILIENCE, PUBLIC GOOD.
SERVICE ISN'T JUST THEORETICAL.
HE'S BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO ME.
HANDS-ON, PERSONAL, AND PERSISTENT, WHETHER HELPING GET --
HELPING TO SHELTERING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR TO WALK
WITH SOMEONE ON THE ROAD TO RECOVERY, I TRUST HIM FULLY.
I TRUST WITH YOUR SUPPORT THIS PROJECT CAN BE A REFLECTION
OF OUR COLLECTIVE VALUES AND THE VALUES OF OUR CITY.
I DON'T CLAIM TO BE AN EXPERT IN HOUSING POLICY, BUT I KNOW
THIS WHEN WE INVEST IN NEIGHBORHOODS, WE INVEST IN DIGNITY,
INVEST IN ACCESSIBILITY, AFFORDABILITY.
WE CAN BE PROUD OF.
11:03:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
NEXT, PLEASE.

11:03:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JOE PALANO.
I'M FROM BUFFALO, NEW YORK.
I LIVED IN TAMPA SINCE 2004.
I OWN A SMALL BUSINESS.
HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE URBAN REWORX PROJECT.
I LOVE LIVING DOWN HERE.
LOVE BEING A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN TAMPA.
I LOVE OUR COMMUNITY.
AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, OUR EMPLOYEES COULD USE MORE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I THINK URBAN REWORX WILL DO A GREAT JOB IN DELIVERING AND
URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT SO WE CAN GET IT GOING AND
GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWN HERE.
THANK YOU.
11:03:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
NEXT, MR. HEARNS.
11:04:00AM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING AGAIN TO CRA BOARD.
MY NAME IS FRED HEARNS.
3422 MACHADO STREET IN TAMPA, HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
THEY SAY THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW THEIR HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO
REPEAT THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST.
HISTORY IS VERY INSTRUCTIVE.

THAT'S ONE REASON I KIND OF MAKE IT MY LIFE NOW.
BUT IF I CAN TAKE YOU BACK JUST FOR A MOMENT TO 2007, THAT
IS THE YEAR I RETIRED FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE WERE DOING QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS ON
WAS THE REDEVELOPMENT OF PERRY HARVEY PARK.
AND THAT PARK WAS TO INCLUDE AN AMPHITHEATER.
THE FOOTPRINT IS STILL THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE CONCRETE AND A HALF-MOON, WHERE SUPPOSED TO
GO ON HARRISON STREET.
WE HAD THE ISSUE WITH THE SKATE BOWL.
YOU ALL WOULD REMEMBER THAT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SKATE BOWL WAS MOVED OUT OF THE
MIDDLE OF THE PARK TO THE NORTHERN SECTION OF THE PARK.
COST QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO DO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF THAT MONEY WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE GONE
INTO THE AMPHITHEATER THAT WAS USED TO MOVE THE SKATE BOWL,
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE AMPHITHEATER WAS NEVER BUILT.
THAT WAS 2007.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CITY BUDGETS SINCE THEN.
IT'S NEVER BEEN FUNDED.
OUR DEARLY DEPARTED COUNCILWOMAN WAS PURSUING THIS PROJECT.
ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES WE SPOKE, WE SPENT THREE HOURS
TOGETHER, AND THIS IS BEFORE SHE WAS SWORN INTO OFFICE.
SHE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TIME THAT DAY, RIDING AROUND THE
CENTRAL AVENUE AREA.

SHE LIVED ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
THE BOOKSTORE WAS RIGHT OFF CENTRAL AVENUE.
SHE KNEW THAT HISTORY, AS DO MANY OF US WHO GREW UP IN
TAMPA.
I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO
BUILD AN AMPHITHEATER AT PERRY HARVEY PARK.
IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE $10 MILLION, BUT GWEN HENDERSON
UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD GENERATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE
WHEN THEY PUT ON FESTIVALS AND HAVE ALL KINDS OF EVENTS
WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO RENT A STAGE.
THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
WHERE VENDORS CAN COME THERE.
AND IF THEY DO WELL ENOUGH AT THE EVENTS WE HAVE, MAYBE THEY
CAN OPEN A STOREFRONT.
SHE WAS IN A -- SHE WAS INTERESTED IN SEEING THE
AMPHITHEATER BUILT.
I HOPE YOU CONTINUE THE WORK THAT SHE BEGAN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:06:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
WE HAVE THREE FOLKS WHO ARE STANDING RIGHT NOW FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I KNOW THERE'S MORE COMING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, COUNCIL,
DON'T WE USUALLY TAKE VIRTUAL FIRST OR LAST?

DOESN'T MATTER.
WHAT I'LL DO, AS A COMPROMISE, AFTER MS. TATE, SHE'S
STANDING UP NOW, WE'LL DO VIRTUAL.
EVERYBODY WILL GET TO SPEAK.
ONLY TWO FOLKS VIRTUAL.
I DON'T KNOW THEIR TIME LIMITATIONS.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
THAT'S MR. CREIGHTON AND MR. RANDOLPH ARE WAITING.
YOU WILL GO IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES, MORE OR LESS.
11:07:16AM >> HI.
ALBERT COOK.
MANY OF YOU KNOW ME.
GWEN CAME BY MY HOUSE THE OTHER DAY.
I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
I LIVE IN VM YBOR.
THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY 150 FEET FROM MY HOME.
IT IS CURRENTLY A CAR WASH.
I LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY.
THE OWNER OF REWORX WHO IS ACTUALLY THE PROJECT OWNER
REFURBISHED TWO HOMES NEXT TO ME.
DID A WONDERFUL JOB ON THE HOMES AND BROUGHT THEM BACK TO
THEIR ORIGINAL GLORY AND HAS IMPROVED THE VALUE OF OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
HE BOUGHT THAT CAR WASH.
HE IMPROVED THE CAR WASH.

THE CAR WASH IS DOING WELL, BUT NOW HE WANTS TO MOVE ON TO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW, THAT'S ON 21st AND NEBRASKA, RIGHT
WHERE THAT CHECKERS IS AND THAT HUGE BLOND BRICK CHURCH IS
RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
BY PUTTING THAT STRUCTURE THERE, HE'S GOING TO IMPROVE THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELP US CLEAR NEBRASKA AVENUE AND MAKE IT
SAFE AGAIN AND BRING IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL GLORY AS WELL.
I'M ALL FOR IT.
WHATEVER YOU GUYS CAN DO TO HELP.
I'M WITH IT, AND ALSO I WANT YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW
THAT I AM SITTING ON MY FRONT PORCH AND I CAN SEE THE CAR
WASH.
I WOULD RATHER SEE A BUILDING THAT HAS A COFFEE SHOP, A
BUILDING THAT HAS LIFE WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING, RATHER THAN
WASHING CARS AND PEOPLE HANGING OUT AND POSSIBLY SELLING
DRUGS OR DRINKING OR PROSTITUTES IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
AND THAT'S THE END OF MY COMMENT.
I SAY LET'S GO AHEAD AND HELP REWORX DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO
TO CHANGE THAT CAR WASH FROM A CAR WASH INTO WORKFORCE
HOUSING AND HELP CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANKS.
11:09:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.

MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
11:09:32AM >> HI.
MARTINEZ.
I LIVE IN YBOR HEIGHTS.
I AM A CURRENT EAST TAMPA CRA CAC MEMBER.
THE PURPOSE OF A CRA IS TO ELIMINATE BLIGHT AND SLUM.
OUR OWN TAMPA CRA MISSION STATEMENT IS TO PLAN, COLLABORATE,
AND INNOVATE TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES.
I SUPPORT AGENDA ITEM 10 BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO STRENGTHEN
OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO OFFER SO MANY BENEFITS TO THE
COMMUNITY.
I IMPLORE YOU TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT HOLISTICALLY, NOT JUST
AT THE MONEY, BECAUSE I KNOW TRADITIONALLY IN THE CITY, WE
LIKE TO HAVE BIG-BOX DEVELOPERS COME IN AND PROVIDE HUNDREDS
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS SO WE CAN GIVE THEM LOWER
SUBSIDY.
THIS PROJECT IS MORE THAN JUST THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THEY HAVE
AND THE MONEY THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO SPARK
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE QUALITY OF LIFE, AND IT'S GOING TO
ELIMINATE BLIGHT AND SLUM.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN OUR AREA.
THEY GIVE 400 UNITS.

WE PAY A LOW AMOUNT.
THEY BUILD AND THEN THEY GO AWAY.
THEY GO AWAY.
THEY DON'T MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY, THAT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR
THE RESIDENTS THERE.
WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO DO BOTH.
WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO COME HERE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND
CRA COMPLAIN THAT THEY ARE BEING OVERDEVELOPED OR DEVELOPERS
ARE IGNORING THEM AND WE HAVE TO FORCE THEM TO DO A
COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
HERE WE HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO IS DOING IT ON HIS OWN, WHO IS
NOT GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS PROJECT, WHO IS READY TO
BREAK GROUND.
WHO IS READY TO BE BRAVE AND INVEST IN NEBRASKA AVENUE WHEN
NO ONE ELSE IS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT THAT IS GOING
TO ATTRACT OTHER DEVELOPERS TO COME IN.
WE HAVE ANOTHER GENTLEMAN WHO BOUGHT THE WALGREENS PROPERTY
AND TRYING HIS HARDEST TO MAKE THAT INTO A LIVE LOCAL ACT.
I CONNECT HIM WITH THAD AND WITH MENACHEM RAPPAPORT BECAUSE
HE WANTS TO BUILD ON 26.
THERE IS A LOT BY BORRELL PARK.
EVERYBODY IS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOVE.
IF WE CAN GET THE PROJECT APPROVED AT THE $500 MILLION, THE
MATRIX SAYS WE CAN GO UP TO 250K.

IT IS NOT WRONG TO ASK FOR THE MAX.
WE NEED ONE DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND THE REST WILL COME IN.
I ASK YOU TO PLEASE LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY BECAUSE THIS
IS GOING TO BE IMPACTING.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT
LIVE OFF THE NEBRASKA AVENUE CORRIDOR.
THANK YOU.
11:11:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:11:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
LEE MANSORI.
OWN A PROPERTY ACROSS FROM THE REWORX PROJECT.
I WANT TO SHOW FULL SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
11:12:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MS. TATE, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:12:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA.
CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS.
I AM FRAN TATE, PRESIDENT OF JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION AND MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA COMMUNITY
ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I CAME BEFORE YOU WEEKS AGO AND I EXPRESSED THE FACT THAT WE
ARE VOLUNTEERS.
WE HAVE VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE IN REDEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ARE
ON THE BOARD BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO
SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M ASKING THAT WE BE GIVEN MORE TIME, WHEN DEVELOPERS COME
WITH OVER A MILLION DOLLAR ASK, WE NEED MORE TIME TO READ
THE INFORMATION, DIGEST THE INFORMATION AND UNDERSTAND IT
BECAUSE WE CANNOT TALK AMONGST OURSELVES JUST LIKE YOU ALL.
THE LAST PRESENTER CAME WITH A $9.7 MILLION ASK.
WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO READ THE 131 PAGE BOOKLET THAT HE
PROVIDED.
SOME WERE OUT OF TOWN FOR THE FIRST MEETING, AND SOME JUST
CAME BACK FOR THE SECOND MEETING.
WE ONLY RECEIVED THE INFORMATION A FEW DAYS BEFORE.
WE NEED AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS.
IT WAS LIKE THAT WHEN I SERVED AS THE CHAIR.
WE HAD MORE TIME TO ANALYZE THESE PRESENTATIONS.
I'M ASKING FOR MORE TIME.
SEVEN DAYS, PLEASE, ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT AT LEAST.
AND ON THE URBAN REWORX ASK, THEY PRESENTED AND WE MADE A
DECISION ON WHAT WE WERE GOING TO FUND THAT PROJECT AT.
PLEASE LET IT STAY AT THAT AMOUNT.
THANK YOU.
11:13:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
NEXT WE'LL GO TO VIRTUAL.
THERE ARE TWO FOLKS THAT I THINK ARE ON VIRTUAL.
MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE READY TO GO, SIR.
11:14:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.

TODAY I COME TO SPEAK BRIEFLY.
TODAY, I COME WITH A HEAVY HEART AND I SPEAK WEST TAMPA
COMMUNITY LEADERS AND RESIDENTS IN SAYING WE LOST A TRUE
FIGHTER FOR THE PEOPLE.
FROM THE POOR TO THE RICH, FROM THE BABY TO THE SENIOR, FROM
THE BLACK TO THE WHITE AND ALL BETWEEN.
SHE FOUGHT TIRELESSLY FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
WHAT I REMEMBER MOST IS THAT -- SHE HAD THE ABILITY TO TEAR
YOU DOWN WITH THAT SMILE AND LEFT YOU WONDERING WHAT
HAPPENED.
I REMEMBER DURING A RECENT CRA MEETING FORGOTTEN TO SPEAK.
SHE OPENED THE MEETING UP JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
COMMUNITY VOICE WAS HEARD.
I SHARED WITH HER SO MANY CONCERNS FROM THE WEST TAMPA, AND
SHE ALWAYS SAY CALL ME.
SHE WAS IN BETWEEN MEETINGS DURING THE LAST MEETING,
EMERGENCY MEETING ON RECOVERY FROM THE STORM.
SHE SHOWED UP TO THE VIRTUAL MEETING IN BETWEEN MEETINGS TO
LET THE PEOPLE KNOW SHE REALLY CARED.
MOST APPROPRIATE IS SO HARD TO SAY GOOD-BYE.
IN CLOSING, JOB WELL DONE.
THANK YOU.
11:15:46AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
MR. CREIGHTON, GO AHEAD, SIR, IF YOU ARE ON.

11:16:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
BOBBY CREIGHTON.
FIRST, I WANT TO START BY JUST EXPRESSING MY SADNESS AND
SHOCK AND DISBELIEF AT THE LOSS OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:16:16AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CREIGHTON, YOU ARE BREAKING UP THERE AND
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU WELL.
11:16:28AM >> OH.
I'LL TRY TO SPEAK MORE SLOWLY.
HOPEFULLY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND.
ANYWAY, JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES TO COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON'S FAMILY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 10 TODAY.
URBAN REWORX PROJECT ON NEBRASKA AVENUE.
MANY PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW THIS, BUT THERE WAS A BOARDING
HOUSE AT THAT LOCATION PRIOR TO THE CAR WASH.
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE WERE STEELWORKERS, WAITRESSES,
YOUNG FAMILIES WITH NEWBORNS.
IT WAS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO BRING
BACK.
WE ALWAYS HEAR HOW GREAT TAMPA WAS IN THE PAST, THE FABRIC
WE HAD, THE URBAN FABRIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS PROJECT IS DESIGNED TO BRING THAT BACK TO THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IT DESPERATELY NEEDS.
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU HEARD PEOPLE FROM VM YBOR, RESIDENTS
COME DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THE BOARDING HOUSES WHERE SEXUAL

OFFENDERS LIVE, ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE HOMELESSNESS
AROUND THAT AREA, WITH THE PROSTITUTION AND THE DRUG USE,
WITH THE VACANT BUILDINGS AND UNDERUTILIZED SPACES.
THIS PROJECT IS THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE
RIGHT TIME.
AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT IT AT THE FULL FUNDING REQUEST.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:17:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
MS. SHAKE.
GO AHEAD, MA'AM, IF YOU'D LIKE.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
11:18:03AM >> ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
GOOD MORNING.
THIS MORNING, I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ITEM 10.
11:18:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M SORRY.
YOUR NAME.
I JUST SAID IT.
11:18:14AM >> I'M SCHALETTE DAVIS.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ITEM 10, THE URBAN REWORX

PROJECT.
I'VE KNOWN THAD FOR NEARLY TEN YEARS.
WE MET THROUGH CHURCH, A CHURCH I WORK FOR, CHURCH I ATTEND,
THE PORTICO.
I'VE LIVED IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
I'VE WAITED A LONG TIME TO SEE AN INVESTMENT LIKE THIS IN VM
YBOR AND EAST TAMPA AND ESPECIALLY ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE.
THIS PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN
HOPING FOR HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I USED TO LIVE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER IN TAMPA HEIGHTS IN A
HOME.
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, TAMPA HEIGHTS IS A TRANSITIONING
NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY LANDLORD TRANSITIONED ME AND MY ROOMMATE RIGHT OUT OF
THAT PLACE IN ORDER TO MAKE ROOM FOR TENANTS THAT WERE GOING
TO PAY HIGHER RENTS.
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE NEW MONEY COMING FROM OUT OF OUR
AREA AND DOWNTOWN IN THE CORE OF OUR CITY.
THIS PROJECT SHOWS THAT VM YBOR AND EAST TAMPA MATTER AND
THAT NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS ARE WORTH INVESTING IN.
PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALL THEIR LIVES IN OUR CITY AND YET STILL
STRUGGLE TO SECURE SAFE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE WORTH
INVESTING IN.
PEOPLE LIKE TEQUISHA, ONE OF THE GUESTS FOR THE NONPROFIT I
WORK FOR, TWO JOBS, TWO BOYS, AND SHE CONTINUOUSLY STRUGGLES

TO PAY RISING RENTAL COSTS.
PEOPLE LIKE MINDY, ANOTHER SINGLE MOM, WHO SOME OF YOU MIGHT
KNOW THE STORY OF.
SHE WAS ONCE HOMELESS AND HAS CHANGED HER LIFE AND IS NOW
WORKING AND THRIVING.
SHE'S ABOUT TO FINISH HER DEGREE AT USF.
AND PEOPLE WHO ARE SINGLE WOMEN LIKE ME.
I'M PUSHING 50 YEARS OLD AND I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE TO
WORK IN MY INDUSTRY, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T PAY ME MUCH.
I LOVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY IN DOWNTOWN, AN AREA THAT I LOVE.
FOR THE LAST 60 DAYS, I'VE EXPERIENCED THE DEFUNDING OF
PROGRAMS THAT KEEP THE CITY SAFE AND KEEP THE RESIDENTS
SAFE.
I JUST BEG YOU TO KEEP TAMPANIANS IN HAD TAMPA.
THE PRICE POINT FOR THIS PROJECT IS RIGHT.
AND IF WE DON'T INVEST AND IMPROVE -- APPROVE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROJECTS LIKE REWORX, WE ARE IN DANGER OF LOSING
TALENTED AND PASSIONATE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE THE HEART AND
SPIRIT OF THE HONORABLE GWEN HENDERSON, MAY HER MEMORY BE A
BLESSING TO US AND OUR ENTIRE CITY.
11:21:14AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
BY THE WAY, TODAY IS WOMEN VETERANS DAY.
HAPPY WOMEN VETERANS DAY.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:21:23AM >> HI.

I'M RAY COLKER.
I'M DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS PROJECT AT 1024 EAST 19th
AVENUE.
I'VE LIVED AND INVESTED IN YBOR FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO TAMPA, I WAS DOING SOME CONSULTING
WORK FOR BALTIMORE DOWNTOWN, AND THEY TOLD ME ONE OF THEIR
PEOPLE WAS JUST RECENTLY HIRED BY THE CITY TO MAKE
IMPROVEMENTS IN YBOR CITY.
IN MY SMALL WAY, I WANTED TO JUMP ON BOARD.
REMODELED AND RESTORED A SHOTGUN ON 4th AVENUE.
I USED TO HANG OUT AT THE HOT SHOP FOR YEARS DRINKING ALOE
VERA.
IT WAS THE DIVERSITY THERE THAT I LOVED TO SEE.
PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE COMING THERE, DRINKING ALOE
VERA, LOSING WEIGHT, IMPROVING THEIR MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
MY GASTRO DIDN'T BELIEVE IT CURED MY GASTRITIS BUT I BELIEVE
AFTER A YEAR OR SO IT DID.
I'M PLEASED TO SEE THE CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT IN YBOR.
IT'S JUST REMARKABLE.
I HAVE A FRIEND COMING IN TODAY FROM PHILLY TO HELP ME DO
SOME WORK ON SOME THINGS.
HE HASN'T BEEN HERE ABOUT TEN YEARS.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SHOWING HIM AROUND, LOOK AT ALL THE
DIFFERENT CHANGES.
I'VE BEEN A FRIEND.

I KNOW THE FOUNDERS OF URBAN REWORX.
I WAS THERE WHEN THEY FOUNDED THE COMPANY.
THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
THEY ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY, AND THEY
HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD NEIGHBORS.
I'M CERTAIN THEY WILL CONTINUE THEIR LEADERSHIP AND INVEST
IN THE COMMUNITY.
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY RIGHT IN THIS AREA, WE
WAITED A LONG TIME TO SEE SOME REAL INVESTMENT, ESPECIALLY
ALONG NEBRASKA.
THIS PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN WANTING.
I THINK THIS PROJECT SHOWS THAT VM YBOR AND EAST TAMPA ARE
WORTH THE INVESTMENT AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO FUND THIS
PROJECT.
IT WILL BRING IN NEW RESIDENTS.
IT WILL IMPROVE THE SIDEWALKS, THE WALKING, THE PEOPLE HERE.
ALL THOSE THINGS ARE THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN WANTING ALL OF
THESE YEARS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
11:23:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
KELLA McCASKILL.
NATIVE HERE IN TAMPA.

I HOPE THAT TODAY YOUR MINDSET TOWARD THE PEOPLE THAT YOU
REPRESENT IS DIFFERENT.
YOU'VE ALL HEARD MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN
FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND YET YOU STILL LISTEN SOLELY TO THE
STAFF.
YOU'RE ELECTED.
THEY WERE HIRED.
I HOPE THAT AFTER ALL THAT'S HAPPENED TODAY, WHAT YOU
ACTUALLY DO UP THERE EVERY DAY, I HOPE IT REALLY DOES
MATTER.
WHEN YOU LEAVE, WHAT YOU DID IN THAT COMMUNITY MATTERED.
RIGHT NOW YOU'RE HEADED TOWARD AUTHORIZING, OPENING THE DOOR
WIDE OPEN FOR GENTRIFICATION.
I'M ALSO A DEVELOPER ALONG THE NEBRASKA CORRIDOR.
IN FACT, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE MOST PART WITHOUT THE
PROJECTS I REPRESENT.
THE DIFFERENCE, I'LL BACK UP.
AFTER YOU WATCHED THE COMPLAINTS, YOU HEARD THE THINGS
THAT'S HAPPENED.
YOU'VE SEEN THE DISPARITIES BETWEEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
IN ONE CASE, $5 MILLION.
I LIKED THAT PROJECT WAS ON A CONSENT AGENDA.
YOU SEE OTHER PEOPLE COME FORWARD.
WE'RE AT A CRITICAL PLACE WHERE WE RECENTLY LOST THE CRA FOR
BEING THE POSTER CHILD ARE NOT DOING WHAT CRAs WERE

INTENDED TO DO.
AFTER SEEING ALL THAT, BEING IN THE CITY AND YET YOU HAVE
NOT SEEN ANY AFRICAN AMERICAN APPLICATIONS COME BEFORE YOU,
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY LEGACY INITIATIVE, PREDEVELOPMENT
DOLLARS ATTACHED TO IT BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATORS THAT WERE
VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THIS PROCESS, WHEN THEY PUT THE
INFORMATION OUT THAT THAT'S HOW IT WAS INITIATED.
THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY AND YET I SEE IN THE FRA WHERE
THEY ARE AWARDED FOR, AWARDED FOR THE LEGACY CREDIT THAT
WOULD LOWER THE BARRIER FOR A MULTIMILLIONAIRE.
LOWER THE BARRIER FOR A MULTIMILLIONAIRE WHO DIDN'T EVEN
NEED LEGACY CREDIT.
THEY HAD ALREADY FUNDED THEIR OWN PROJECT.
PAY ATTENTION.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE STAFF DOESN'T ALWAYS REPRESENT
THE TRUTH.
THEY MAY SAY WHAT'S FAVORABLE.
WHAT YOU MAY WANT TO HEAR.
WHAT YOU MAY LIKE TO HEAR, BUT THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS GIVING
YOU TRUTH.
GO TO THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU.
GO TO THE CONSTITUENTS.
THOSE THAT IS IN THAT COMMUNITY.
A $9.7 MILLION ASK WAS SHOVED IN THOSE PEOPLE'S FACES.
AND WE ARE ONLY ASKING THAT THEY HAVE A SECOND REVIEW AND

YOU PAY ATTENTION.
ASK THE RESIDENTS.
ASK THE CAC MEMBERS AT THE MEETING.
ASK THEM HOW THEY FELT.
FIVE PEOPLE SAID I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A
DECISION.
AND JUST OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I'M ASKING YOU ALL
TO DO A WORKSHOP REGARDING GRANTS, THESE APPLICATIONS, THIS
PROCESS, THE CAC BOARD.
I WANT YOU TO GO LOOK AT HOW PREDEVELOPMENT WAS INITIATED BY
THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE.
I ALSO WANT YOU TO READ THE CRP AND GO BACK TO WHERE IT
ENCOURAGES PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND AS IT RELATES TO
THE CRP COMING BACK.
ONLY TWO MEETINGS.
CRP RECOMMENDED PUBLIC INPUT AND THEY DID FIVE MEETINGS THE
LAST TIME.
MAKE THEM DO MORE.
I SUPPORT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF A PROJECT THAT I'M DEVELOPING.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT.
I LIKED IT SO MUCH, I ASKED FOR THE ARCHITECT.
11:26:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, MA'AM.
MS. HEWITT, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

11:27:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ALISON HEWITT.
EAST TAMPA RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER.
I WILL SAY I AGREE, AS I SAID IN MY LAST WEEK'S PUBLIC
COMMENTS, WE ARE POISED TO HAVE THIS CRA BE THE TOOL FOR
GENTRIFICATION IN EAST TAMPA.
WE'RE ASKING TO YOU PAY ATTENTION.
WE HAVE A POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL GRANT, BUT THE WAY IT IS
SITUATED RIGHT NOW, UNLESS YOU HAVE MONEY, YOU CANNOT ACCESS
IT.
UNLESS YOU CAN PAY FOR IT 100%, THEN YOU CAN GET THE 50%
MATCH.
AND THE WAY THE SERVICE AGREEMENT IS AND ALSO BECAUSE
FLORIDA STATUTE 163.3705 SAYS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW CITY POLICY
YOU, WHEN YOU SIT AS CITY COUNCIL, YOU CAN AMEND THE
PURCHASING POLICY TO BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE LOCAL
BUSINESSES.
IF YOU HAVE TO USE THE POLICY, THE POLICY THAT YOU HAVE TO
HAVE COMPLETE REIMBURSEMENT, THE POLICY THAT YOU TRY TO
REMOVE SLUM AND BLIGHT, WELL, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
FOLKS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE CREDIT BECAUSE THEY ARE A CASH
BUSINESS AND NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE LOAN TO DO
REDEVELOPMENT, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT THAT.
ALSO, ITEM NUMBER 11, TO CHANGE THE COMMERCIAL GRANT, THERE
IS A SECTION IN THERE TO REMOVE THE INTERIOR REHABILITATION.

SO TECHNICALLY WE ARE GOING TO BE SLAPPING LIPSTICK ON A
PIG.
BECAUSE IF YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THE OUTSIDE AND CANNOT DO THE
INSIDE, IN THE STATE STATUTE CLEARLY SAYS 163.335, THE
LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS AS WELL AS 163.370 PAREN 2, IT DOES NOT
SAY NO INTERIOR.
IT SAYS CONSTRUCT AND IMPROVE COMMERCIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL
STRUCTURES.
IF WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HIRING FROM EAST TAMPA,
THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY COME INSIDE A REALLY PRETTY
BUILDING AND BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND BE ABLE TO LOVE COMING
TO THEIR JOB.
WE HAVE GOT TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION.
BECAUSE YOU ARE THE CRA.
THE CITY STAFF RUNS THE INFORMATION THAT COMES BEFORE YOU.
I NEED YOU TO TREAT YOUR CITY STAFF LIKE THEY ARE CRA STAFF,
YOUR STAFF AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO BE CONSISTENT OF
WHAT THEY ARE SAYING TO THE COMMUNITY.
ACTUALLY PUTTING IN POLICIES THAT HELP THE CRA NOT MAINTAIN
WHAT THE CITY POLICIES ARE BECAUSE THE CRA AND THE CITY,
THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THE CRA HAS A SPECIFIC MISSION TO ACHIEVE.
AND WE CAN'T ACHIEVE IT UNLESS WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO
HOW ARE WE HELPING THE BUSINESSES.
HOW ARE WE HELPING THE HOMEOWNERS AND WHAT IS THE OVERALL

PLAN?
I ASK YOU FOR ITEM 11, ALSO A CONCERN IS THAT THEY CAME TO
THE CAC AND THEY BROUGHT THEIR PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN.
THEY PRESENTED ALL THEIR PROPOSED CHANGES, BUT THEY LEFT
NOTHING IN OUR HANDS FOR THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD
LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AND SHARE OUR OPINION AND BE ABLE TO DO
SOME RESEARCH, PRESENTED TO YOU, WE DID NOT HAVE TO BE ABLE
TO LOOK AT OTHER THAN ON THE SCREEN.
I ASK YOU NOT TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY OUT OF THIS PROCESS.
PLEASE GIVE US THE INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME SO WE CAN COME
TO YOU WITH THOUGHTFUL RESPONSES AND NOT EMOTIONAL BECAUSE
IT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
11:30:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
MS. BULLOCK.
OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PONCE De LEON.
11:30:18AM >> VALERIE BULLOCK.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 10, THE REWORX HOUSING
PROJECT.
I WANT TO KNOW WHEN PEOPLE COME TO GET MONEY FROM EAST TAMPA
CRA AND THEY SAY THEY ARE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHY DO
THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO START OUT WITH THE HIGHEST 80% AMI?
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CRA FUNDING IS GOING TO FUND THEIR
PROJECT, LET'S START OFF AT 30%.

AND IT CAN BE DONE.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU START OFF AT 80%, YOU ARE HELPING THE
PEOPLE YOU WANT TO HELP BUT YOU ARE STILL CREATING BARRIERS
TO KEEP CERTAIN PEOPLE OUT.
I CAN LOOK AT WEST TAMPA, THE NEW PROJECTS THEY BUILT OVER
THERE, AND CENTRAL PARK, AND IF YOU GO OVER THERE, IT WAS --
I'LL SAY BETWEEN 80 TO 90 PERCENT SPANISH PEOPLE IN CENTRAL
PARK, THE NEW PROJECTS OVER THERE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE PROJECTS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE
NAME OF IT, BUT I DO KNOW BLACK POOR PEOPLE FROM EAST TAMPA,
MY STREET, 24th AVENUE, THEY ARE BEING EXCLUDED.
FOR ME, THE REWORX PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME THING.
WHEN THEY SAY, OKAY, GIVE US $10 MILLION AND WE START AT
80%, EAST TAMPA CRA SHAKE THEIR HAND.
THAT IS A GOOD DEAL BECAUSE YOU ARE PERPETUATING
GENTRIFICATION EXCLUDING BLACK PEOPLE OUT OF IT.
HOW MANY BLACK PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA ON 24th AVENUE, MY
STREET, MAKES 80% OF THE AMI?
THE AVERAGE AMI ON MY STREET IS 30 TO 35 THOUSAND.
SO IF YOU ALL GIVE REWORX THIS MONEY AND THEY START WITH
80%, THE PEOPLE MAKING 70%, THEY ARE GOING TO GET IN QUICKER
THAN THE PEOPLE MAKING 30%.
WE'VE SEEN IT DONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
ALL I'M ASKING, IF YOU GIVE EAST TAMPA CRA MONEY, LET'S MAKE
SURE WE PUT SOME RULES AND STIPULATIONS ON IT.

I DON'T CARE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS.
IF YOU GET EAST TAMPA CRA, WE WANT APARTMENTS FOR THE PEOPLE
WHO MAKE $36,000 A YEAR BECAUSE THIS IS GENTRIFICATION.
WE SEE IT REPEATED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
HOW IS EAST TAMPA THE OLDEST CRA IN TAMPA BUT MOST BLACK.
WHEN WILL WE GET OUR RIVERWALK?
WHEN WILL WE GET OUR CHANNELSIDE?
WHEN WILL WE GET OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE.
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE, YOU'RE NOT.
NOW WE ARE GOING TO PUSH ALL THE MONEY TO VM YBOR.
11:33:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU ALL COULD
PLEASE STAND UP, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO AND GO UP AGAINST.
COMMISSIONER MYERS, WE'LL HAVE YOU NEXT MA'AM.
YES, MA'AM.
IF YOU ALL COULD PLEASE STAND UP, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO
AND LINE UP THERE SO WE KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS.
MR. ROBINSON.
11:33:27AM >> JOE ROBINSON.
ITEM 11, 13, 15, 15 SUPPORT CARLOS RAMIREZ REAPPOINTMENT TO
THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
13, I'M SUPPORTING THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY ON CYPRESS
STREET.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 11.

THANK YOU, MR. McCRAY.
THANK YOU, DEE.
THANK YOU, BRENDA.
THANK YOU STAFF.
THOSE PEOPLE TAKE A BEATING.
THEY ARE IN A TRANSITION.
I'VE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE, FOUR CRAs.
FIRST CDBG GRANT.
THIS THING IS A TRANSITION.
THE TRANSITION BECAUSE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP, THE CHANGE
THINGS.
RENEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND ALL OF THAT.
SO IT TAKES TIME TO DEVELOP A COMMERCIAL GRANT PROGRAM.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE THERE ARE GUIDELINES ON
HERE.
I MADE A LOT OF NOTES ON THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THIS.
THERE ARE GUIDELINES.
WHAT IS A GUIDELINE?
A GUIDELINE IS JUST A RECOMMENDED PRACTICE, GUIDE
INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE DECISIONS, TO COMPLETE TASKS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE LAWS AND RULES, MR. ATTORNEY.
GUIDELINES.
IT MEANS IT CAN BE FLEXIBLE.
AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY.
THEY'VE GOT GREAT CHANGES.

I HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY IN WEST TAMPA THAT IS MEETS
HISTORICAL, OVER 50 YEARS OLD.
-- 80 YEARS OLD.
THAT IS ISSUE.
HISTORIC DISTRICT, OLDER HOUSES.
ISSUE WHEN YOU HAVE PROPERTY SITTING IN CI ZONING AND THEY
TELL YOU IT IS NOT A COMMERCIAL USE.
WE HAVE TO LET STAFF WORK THESE THINGS OUT.
I ASKED HIM, I SAY, AIRBNB A COMMERCIAL USE?
EVEN THOUGH IT IS WRITTEN -- IT IS COMMERCIAL.
PAYING BUSINESS TAX ON RENTAL PROPERTY, BELIEVE IT IS IF IT
IS A BUSINESS TAX.
I WON'T DEBATE IT.
I KNOW THEY ARE IN A STATE OF FLUX AND NEED TIME TO WORK
THIS OUT.
EXPECT MORE GUIDELINES.
MEETING TUESDAY NIGHT, THANK YOU, MS. DEE, OVER THERE,
WORKING THIS OUT.
THIS IS -- I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS 40 YEARS.
WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
ALMOST THERE WITH THE CRAs.
IN MY OPINION, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF OUT BEFORE WE NAIL
IT.
MS. HENDERSON GONE, HOPE IT DOESN'T PUSH US BACK THREE

YEARS.
I'M NOT HERE TO FIGHT.
I'M HERE TO THANK YOU STAFF FOR PUTTING UP WITH YOU.
THANK YOU, MS. BRENDA FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME.
SOMETIMES I'M CONTROVERSIAL AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T WANT
TO HEAR WHAT I SAY.
WHEN I COME, I DO MY HOMEWORK.
I ALWAYS DO MY HOMEWORK.
LICENSED ENGINEER, I CAN'T STAND UP AND LIE.
DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY MILLION DOLLAR LICENSE.
I'M HERE TO HELP YOU.
WE HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF TO DO, HOUSING AND ALL
THAT.
LET'S TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH POSITIVE IMPACT INSTEAD OF
NEGATIVE RHETORIC THAT JUST DESTROY WORKING RELATIONSHIPS.
WITH THAT, I'VE GOT TO GO.
11:36:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
NEXT, I DON'T KNOW COMMISSIONER MYERS, MA'AM, WHICHEVER --
11:36:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
COUNTY COMMISSION GWEN MYERS REPRESENTING DISTRICT 3 AND
SERVING AS COUNTY AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHAIRMAN.
I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF URBAN REWORX.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, AS CHAIR OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE
COUNTY, I MEET WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE STILL

LOOKING TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET AND SPEAK WITH URBAN REWORX AS
THEY ARE PLANNING TO BUILD 20 UNITS.
THESE UNITS WOULD BE LOCATED WHERE WE HAVE THE OLD CAR WASH
RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE, I WOULD SAY THE NORTH SIDE OF
21st, GOING TOWARDS HILLSBOROUGH.
WE KNOW THAT IS A VERY BLIGHTED AREA, AND WE NEED TO KNOW,
AND WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO WANTS TO HELP CLEAN UP A
BLIGHTED AREA AND BRING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE ALL KNOW
THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A TOPIC THROUGHOUT OUR NATION.
PEOPLE ALWAYS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS, AND I'M SURE THEY ARE COMING HERE TO CITY
COUNCIL SAYING WE NEED MORE HOUSING.
WHEN WE CAN HAVE A DEVELOPER CAN BUILD HOUSING THAT WOULD BE
LESS COSTLY FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
UNINCORPORATED COUNTY, CAN HAVE A PLACE TO STAY, THAT WILL
BE DECENT AND AFFORDABLE, WE SHOULD SUPPORT THAT.
I'M ASKING YOU THIS BOARD THIS MORNING IF YOU WOULD SUPPORT
-- I THINK THEY HAVE OUR REQUEST IN FOR $5 MILLION.
THEIR PROJECT AS WE TURN FROM A BLIGHTED COMMUNITY INTO A
MORE POSITIVE POLISHED COMMUNITY AS WE GET MORE DEVELOPERS
TO LOOK AT THAT CORRIDOR BETWEEN FLORIBRASKA TO HILLSBOROUGH
AVENUE, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT IT ONCE WAS, AND WE HAVE
OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND IT STARTS WITH THE URBAN REWORX WHO WANTS TO BUILD A

DECENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO COULD AFFORD
TO PAY THE RENT THERE.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
11:38:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
MS. LOCKETT.
AND WHO ELSE IS HERE?
MS. BURTON.
ANYONE ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER MS. BURTON?
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:39:04AM >> HI AGAIN.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
I AM HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 10.
THE URBAN REWORX PROJECT.
I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT.
ANYTHING WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING I SUPPORT.
THIS PROPERTY OFFERS UP TO 80% OF AMI.
I AGREE WITH THAT.
IT FITS -- IT'S 20 UNITS.
AND YOU KNOW WE ARE STILL IN A HOUSING CRISIS.
YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD A HUNDRED UNITS AT ONE TIME.
WE NEED THE SMALLER UNITS, THE SMALLER CLUSTERS HERE AND
THERE TO MAKE HOUSING, TO MEET THE GOAL OF REACHING THE
NUMBER FOR HOUSING.
I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

IT FITS WHAT WE NEED.
I THINK THAT -- OKAY.
WITH THE NAME OF IT, IF IT IS IN EAST TAMPA, IT SHOULD
REPRESENT EAST TAMPA.
AND THE DEVELOPER HAS SAID THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
WE CAN CREATE ANOTHER NAME FOR IT.
IF IT'S IN EAST TAMPA, IT SHOULD REPRESENT A NAME IN EAST
TAMPA.
AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
I HAD TO SAY THAT.
BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS, AND SO FORTH, I WILL WANT TO SEE BLACK
DEVELOPERS, THE PITTMAN GROUP, THOSE ORGANIZATIONS,
COMPANIES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRODUCE IN EAST TAMPA ALSO.
I HAVE TO SAY THAT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS WORK BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU MAY NOT BE
ABLE TO BUILD UNITS, LARGER UNITS AT ONE TIME.
SO WE HAVE TO BE CREATIVE AND BUILD TWO, BUILD ONE HERE, 20
THERE, 30 THERE.
TO MEET THE DEMAND BECAUSE WE ARE STILL IN A HOUSING CRISIS.
IT HAS FROM MY KNOWLEDGE TWO ADA UNITS WHICH IS NEEDED.
A STOREFRONT.
A ROOFTOP.
SO WE'RE BRINGING THAT DESIGN TO EAST TAMPA.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS ABOUT EAST TAMPA.
AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE'RE SETTING UP A MEETING TO REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT EAST
TAMPA SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND IT SHOULD BE THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT TYPE OF BUILDINGS DO WE WANT IN EAST TAMPA?
BECAUSE EAST TAMPA HAS A MULTITUDE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT
BUILDINGS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS.
SO I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
THAT CONVERSATION, TO BUILD INTO WHAT EAST TAMPA IS GOING TO
CONTINUE TO LOOK LIKE.
THANK YOU.
11:41:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
MS. BURTON.
11:42:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
ITEM NUMBER 6 AND NUMBER 10.
ITEM NUMBER 6, I THINK RIGHT NOW FOR EAST TAMPA TO HAVE BEEN
IN THE GAME OF BEING THE FIRST CRA, THAT WHEN THIS REPORT IS
GIVEN, THE DECK SHOULD BE THIS HIGH WITH EVERYTHING PROMISED
THE COMMUNITY AND VERY LITTLE HAS BEEN FULFILLED.
IF THE LEGISLATORS DO PUT RULES AND REGULATIONS, HOW WOULD
YOU MOVE FORWARD?
HOW WOULD THE PEOPLE WAITING FOR OVER 20 PLUS YEARS TO SEE
THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THEIR COMMUNITY SEE THAT THEY HAVE HAD
THE EAR OF A LEGISLATIVE BEAU ED THAT REPRESENTS THIS CITY.
SO THE THINGS MENTIONED IN THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION, ALL OF

THAT SHOULD BE FUNDED.
THOSE FIVE SUBJECT ITEMS.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NEVER WOULD I HAVE
THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE THAT HAD PROFESSIONAL CAREERS,
FIREFIGHTERS, TEACHERS, WOULD NEVER WANT TO BE LOCKED IN
WITH POOR PEOPLE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
THEY HAVE TO BE LUMPED IN NOW, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOW HOUSES IN
OUR COMMUNITY ARE SELLING FOR HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AS WE WATCH IT.
ITEM NUMBER 10, $5 MILLION REQUEST FOR 20 UNITS.
$5 MILLION FOR 20 UNITS.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
WHEN THEY GAVE THE PRESENTATION, THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO GO
FOUR STORY HIGH.
YOU KNOW WHO TOLD THEM NOT ABLE TO DO THAT, THE BARRIO
COMMISSION.
WHEN THEY TOOK THEIR PLANS TO THAT GROUP THAT GROUP SAID,
NO, YOU CAN ONLY GO THREE HIGH.
YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY DON'T GIVE NOT ONE DOLLAR TO THIS
DEVELOPMENT.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SOLELY BEING ASKED TO BE FINANCED ALL
FOR POOR PEOPLE.
NOW WHEN JC NEWMAN CAME ALONG, SOME SAY MADE A MISTAKE, $5
MILLION.

WE'RE JUST WATCHING IN DISGUST, DISGUST, BECAUSE SECTION 163
TALK ABOUT WHAT CRA SUPPOSED TO DO, IT TALKS ABOUT THE
ELIMINATION OF POVERTY.
75% OF BLACK FOLKS STILL LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
WE AIN'T GOING NOWHERE.
BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW SINCE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT RED
LINING NO MORE, WE HAVE GENTRIFICATION.
AND IT'S HAPPENING.
AND THEN YOU ACT AS IF YOUR HANDS ARE TIED BEHIND YOUR BACK.
ALL OF THE PROMISES THAT THE MAYOR MADE DURING HER FIRST --
DURING HER CAMPAIGN TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT HOUSING MODELS.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN ONE.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE THERE IS A DISDAIN FOR POOR PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA.
THERE IS A SLOW MOVING CAMEL THAT SAY HOW MANY HOUSES WE ARE
GOING TO DO IN REAL REHAB IN REAL TIME, THAT NOW WE JUST
WATCH THE RULES CHANGE, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE TO HAVE ON
THE FRONT END.
PEOPLE CAN'T BE GRANDFATHERED INTO NOTHING IN EAST TAMPA.
WE ARE SPECTATORS.
11:44:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
OKAY THAT IS THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
I BELIEVE THERE IS NO ONE ELSE FOR THAT.
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
11:45:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF I CAN, I DON'T THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE

AGENDA.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME STUFF TO TAKE OFF AND MOVE.
11:45:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
MA'AM, WERE YOU HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
JUST ONE MORE.
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:45:17AM >> FIRST OF ALL, CONDOLENCES AND PEACE TO THE PEOPLE WHO
APPRECIATED COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S LIFE.
WHO APPRECIATE HER LIFE.
11:45:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOUR NAME, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
11:45:27AM >> VIRGINIA KNOX.
JUST BECAUSE I'M HERE I THOUGHT I WOULD GO AHEAD AND
MENTION, I'M NOT A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS ORGANIZATION OR
THIS EVENT, BUT FEED TAMPA BAY IS PARTNERING WITH THE
RESTAURANT WEEK THAT STARTS TODAY AND GOES THROUGH THE
20th.
TODAY, THERE IS A KICKOFF IN ST. PETE ALSO, TICKETS THAT YOU
CAN BUY AT THE DOOR.
WITH THE RESTAURANTS, THEY HAVE A FIXED MENU, WHATEVER YOU
ORDER, A PORTION GOES TO FOR FEEDING TAMPA PEOPLE THAT NEED
HELP.
THANK YOU.
11:46:01AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE FOR LETTING US KNOW THAT.
YOU ARE VERY KIND.

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
11:46:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK MR. McCRAY, MAYBE HE WOULD GO
THROUGH THE AGENDA SO WE CAN MOVE THOSE THINGS.
WE WERE HALFWAY THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT, OH, GOSH, I HOPE NO
ONE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE ITEMS.
THEY WEREN'T.
11:46:26AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE ALREADY MOVED THE MOTION.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE STAFF REPORTS FOR ITEM NUMBER 10 AND
13.
WE WERE REQUESTING CONTINUANCE FOR NUMBER 5 AND WE HAD
CONVERSATIONS, DURING THE BRIEFINGS WITH THE MOTION FOR
NUMBER 5.
ITEM 6 AND 8, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATION AND
WE ARE JUST ASKING THOSE BE REMOVED.
AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ALL.
RELATED TO THE POSTING OF THOSE POSITIONS, SO THOSE
DESCRIPTIONS WILL BE SENT OUT TO YOU FOR REVIEW AGAIN BEFORE
FINAL POSTING.
11:47:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ABOUT 3?
11:47:09AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
AS WELL AS 3 FOR REMOVAL -- OR CONTINUANCE,
I'M SORRY, FOR NUMBER 3 RELATED TO THE FIRE STATION.
WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH REAL ESTATE AS WELL AS THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE UNION TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

AND WOULD LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME AS IT RELATES TO LOOKING
AT PROPERTY.
11:47:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 3 TO BE CONTINUED
TO DECEMBER 11, 2025, AND ITEM NUMBER 5 TO BE CONTINUED TO
AUGUST 21, 2025.
11:47:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, I THINK
COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS SOME COMMENT POTENTIALLY ON THAT.
GO AHEAD, IS SIR.
11:47:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE FIREFIGHTERS WOULD LIKE TO RESCHEDULE
THIS FOR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE INSTEAD OF WAITING ANOTHER SIX
MONTHS.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE WE MADE THE FIRST
MOTION.
BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE IT TO AUGUST 21st.
11:48:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL SUPPORT THAT.
AUGUST 21st, YES.
11:48:12AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKE THE MOTION OR MODIFY?
11:48:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MODIFY MINE TO BE AUGUST 21st FOR ITEM
NUMBER 3.
11:48:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR THAT.
AGAIN, LESSON OF STATION 24 TEACHES US ANYTHING, THIS IS NO
REFLECTION ON CRA STAFF, ALWAYS WONDERFUL, BUT WE'VE GOT TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH VIGOR.
WE CAN MAKE REAL, LIKE, NON-CHANGEABLE PROGRESS ON DOWNTOWN

FIRE STATION BY THE TIME WE LEAVE HERE.
11:48:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU CAN TALK TO EACH OF US OFF LINE AND I
WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE
FIREFIGHTERS.
AT THE VERY LEAST, WE AS A CRA CAN BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY
THAT IT COULD GO ON.
IF THE CITY DECIDES TO SLOW WALK AND NOT BUILD A FIRE
STATION, THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
AT LEAST WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CARVE THAT OUT AND THE NEXT
ADMINISTRATION CAN BUILD A FIRE STATION IF THIS ONE DOESN'T
WANT TO.
THANK YOU.
11:49:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED I THINK BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AS TO --
11:49:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER.
11:49:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER.
EXCUSE ME.
ITEMS 3 AND 5 WITH 3 TO BE MOVED TO THE AUGUST CRA MEETING.
ANY DISCUSSION FURTHER?
THERE BEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
11:49:39AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:49:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK.
I MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 6 FROM THE AGENDA.
11:49:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
QUICK COMMENT, IF THE LEGISLATURE TRIES TO

DO AWAY WITH, LIKE IMMEDIATELY DO AWAY WITH CRAs AGAIN
NEXT YEAR, I OR ONE OF US WILL BRING THIS BACK UP.
NOW IT'S MOOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SHUT US DOWN YET.
11:50:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION I BELIEVE BY BOARD MEMBER
HURTAK.
I THINK SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEM NUMBER 8.
11:50:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS SAYS CONTINUE 60 DAYS, SO YOU WANT IT
TAKEN OFF?
11:50:22AM >> CORRECT.
11:50:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ASK TO REMOVE ITEMS 8 AND 9 ONLY BECAUSE WE
HAVE -- THOSE ITEMS HAVE MOVED ON.
WE ARE POSTING THOSE.
11:50:34AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
JUST 8, NOT 9.
11:50:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SORRY.
JUST 8.
TAKING 8 OFF.
11:50:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:50:43AM >>BILL CARLSON:
QUICK COMMENT.
I TALKED TO CEDRIC ABOUT THIS OFF-LINE.
JUST AS IF THE STRAZ CENTER OR TAMPA THEATRE, SOME OTHER
ORGANIZATION WANTED TO PROMOTE THEMSELVES, THE CITY SHOULD

BE REPOSTING THE MESSAGE OF THE CRA, NOT POSTING IT
ORIGINALLY.
NOW WE'VE GOT HCP FILLING IN TEMPORARILY AND WE'LL GET OUR
OWN PEOPLE.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS CRA SHOULD BE DOING ITS OWN
COMMUNICATION, AND WE SHOULD SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY IS
STEPPING UP AND TRYING TO COMMUNICATE MORE POSITIVELY AND
PROACTIVELY ABOUT THE CRA, BUT REALLY WHAT THEY SHOULD DO IS
MAYBE GIVE YOU SUGGESTIONS AND THEN YOU GET EITHER HCP OR
YOUR PEOPLE TO DO IT.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY WANT TO REPOST IT.
THEY NEED TO -- WE ARE TECHNICALLY SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS.
THEY SHOULD BE REPOSTING OUR STUFF.
11:51:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL IN FAVOR?
11:51:45AM >> AYE.
11:51:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY OPPOSED?
11:51:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, YOU ALL CAN TELL ME IF
YOU WANT IT OR NOT.
I MOVE ITEMS 9, 12, 14, 15, WHICH ARE -- I'M SORRY.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT 9.
I APOLOGIZE.
NEVER MIND.
I MOVE ITEMS 12, WHICH IS THE REALIGNMENT OF MONEY FROM
CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM ONE PART OF CHANNEL DISTRICT TO

ANOTHER, AND THEN THE APPOINTMENTS FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
AND AN APPOINTMENT FOR WEST TAMPA.
11:52:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:52:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY DISCUSSION?
11:52:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY HAVE ANY REASON NOT TO MOVE 13 AS
WELL?
11:52:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE IT'S OVER THAT MUCH MONEY, AND WE
HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT WE ARE GOING TO JUST -- SURE.
I'LL TALK ABOUT IT NOW.
13, I'LL MOTION TO MOVE THAT AS WELL.
I SUPPORT THE PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY.
I JUST WANTED IT MOVED BECAUSE WE HAD SAID THAT ANYTHING
OVER A MILLION DOLLARS NOW WILL BE MOVED TO STAFF REPORT,
BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE DISAGREES WITH IT.
WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:52:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND IT IS LATE IN THE DAY.
11:52:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I AGREE.
I WILL ALSO MOTION TO MOVE 12, 13, 14, 15.
DO YOU ACCEPT THOSE CHANGES?
11:53:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ON 13, THAT IS THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH
SIDE OF CYPRESS FROM ONE PART ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER PART
OF THE WHOLE BLOCK MINUS THE DENTIST AT THE END.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU THINK, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
SUBDIVIDE BY LOT, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE GETTING A BARGAIN.
11:53:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND WE'RE SPENDING LESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO

SOME WORK.
11:53:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD
MEMBER HURTAK, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
11:53:31AM >> AYE.
11:53:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY OPPOSED?
11:53:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST ONE MORE.
SINCE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT IT AND I KNOW THEY
WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT, I FORGOT TO MOVE ITEM 11 INTO STAFF
REPORTS SO WE COULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GRANTS.
I KNOW THEY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THEY NEED TO ASK.
11:53:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ANY DISCUSSION?
THERE BEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
WAY TO CLEAN UP THE AGENDA.
11:54:04AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:54:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
11:54:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
11:54:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CRA BOARD.
NOW WE MOVE, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING FURTHER, THANK YOU,
SIR, TO OUR DREW PARK CAC CHAIR.
OUR FRIEND MARITZA ASTORQUIZA WILL BE HERE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.
11:54:35AM >> WELL, THANK YOU.
I'M VERY GLAD TO BE HERE.
VERY GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE I CAN ALSO OFFER OUR
CONDOLENCES REGARDING COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ON MY BEHALF AND DREW PARK CRA.
SO THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO STATE THAT AS
WELL.
I HAVE THREE ITEMS I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT.
THE LAST ONE IS A SPECIAL MENTION THAT I'M GOING TO DO.
KEEPING THIS IN MIND, THOUGH, IT'S VERY FITTING THAT I START
WITH THE FIRST ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PARK.
THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE AND I WAS ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE
PARK, I HAD SOMEONE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME WHO WAS GIVING ME
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WARM SMILES AND APPRECIATION IN SUPPORT
FOR THIS PROJECT.
I COULD TELL IT IN HER FACE.
I WON'T FORGET THAT.
WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK THAT
WE'RE DOING IN DREW PARK AND IN PARTICULAR I BELIEVE THIS
PROJECT.

AND THIS PROJECT IS VERY FITTING THAT I START OFF WITH THIS
BECAUSE OF COUNCILPERSON HENDERSON.
NEIGHBORHOOD PARK FOR THE DREW PARK CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
AND WE HAVE BEEN MOVING THAT RIGHT ALONG.
IT'S A PROJECT THAT STARTED MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO.
MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO.
WE HAD A VISION ABOUT A PARK.
LINEAR PARK WAS DEVELOPED, BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THIS
PARK.
AND THIS PARK'S INTENTION WAS TO REPLACE OR TO AT LEAST
SOMEWHAT REPLACE THE PARK WE LOST WITH HUNTS PARK OR HUNTS
CENTER.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MAY CORRECT ME.
HE REMEMBERS IT WELL, I'M SURE.
SHE'S SHARED MEMORIES FROM THAT PARK.
THAT WAS REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE AIRPORT EXPANSION.
SO THIS PARK IS A VISION THAT IS GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
THANKFULLY UNDER JESUS NU EZ LEADERSHIP WE BROUGHT IT BACK
TO THE TABLE.
WE MET WITH A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY AND WITH CEDRIC'S
LEADERSHIP, WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT HOME.
WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT, WITH CITY STAFF
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
WE ARE ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETE WITH THE

CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
WE'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE IN A MINUTE.
THEY SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY SUMMER OF 2025.
GOOD BUSINESS PERSON, I WANT A DATE.
WE'RE WAITING ON A DATE, NOT SUMMER 2025.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT PART OF SUMMER IS THIS GOING TO BE DONE
BY.
WE ARE PLEASED WITH THE CONCEPTS AND INFORMATION FROM ALL
THE MEETINGS WE BROUGHT IN FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE MET.
THEY BROUGHT IT TOGETHER REALLY NICELY.
THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A PICTURE OF IT.
DON'T KNOW HOW THAT POPS UP.
THERE YOU GO.
THIS IS OUR DESIGN.
I HOPE ALL OF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO THE GRAND OPENING OF
IT OR THE GROUND BREAKING.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOARDWALK.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PLAY AREAS, A PAVILION, SO FAMILIES
CAN HAVE PARTIES OR PICNICS OR BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS OR WHAT
HAVE YOU.
THERE WILL BE A WATER FOUNTAIN.
POSSIBLE FUTURE RESTROOM.
WE'RE PUTTING THAT OFF FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT IS POSSIBLY

IN THE PLANS IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOOP TRAILS, BENCHES, PICNIC TABLES.
NICE FENCE SO IT IS SECURE AND MAKING IT NICE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, SO IT LOOKS NICE.
LANDSCAPING AND CLEAR SIGHT LINES.
WE ARE PROTECTING TREES.
WE HAVE SOME REALLY SPECIAL TREES ON THAT PROPERTY.
LIGHTING WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR SECURITY.
AND WE'VE ALSO DESIGNED A PARKING SPOT FOR TPD TO BE ABLE TO
COME AND WRITE REPORTS, SIT THERE, INTERACT WITH THE
COMMUNITY.
AND THERE IS A SPECIAL -- IS THERE ANOTHER ONE?
NO.
I THINK THAT IS THE ONE PICTURE.
THE ADA PLAYGROUNDS ARE GOING TO BE ADA COMPLIANT FOR
AUTISTIC CHILDREN.
IT WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
I WELCOME ALL OF YOU WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF GROUND
BREAKING.
I'LL MOVE AROUND QUICKLY.
11:59:22AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I THINK YOU HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS UNLESS
ANYBODY IN THE CRA BOARD OBJECTS, WOULD I GIVE HER MORE
TIME.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK YOU NEED, MARITZA?

11:59:31AM >> ABOUT ANOTHER MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS FOR MY LOST MENTION.
THIS IS A BIG REPORT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD.
WE CONTINUE WITH THE MOBILITY CONSECUTIVE SAFETY
IMPROVEMENT.
WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT AIR CARGO ROAD IS UNDER THE CITY, NOT
THE AIRPORT.
YOU'VE HEARD ME HERE BEFORE SAYING THE RACING, THE HIGH
TRAFFIC, THE SPEEDING AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN IT FEEDS INTO A 45, FEEDS INTO 25, YOU HEARD ME SAY
THAT.
ALSO HIGHLIGHTED IN ADDITION TO THIS PROGRAM, SEVERAL AREAS,
NORTH HESPERIDES, THE CORRIDOR, WEST CREST AVENUE, HUBERT
AND ALVA, HUBERT AND OSBORNE.
LOIS AND ALVA.
LOIS AND CAYUGA.
LOIS LOCATION AND HESPERIDES LOCATION, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF
HIT OR MISSES OF VEHICLE ACCIDENTS.
WE HAVE ALSO SEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD FATALITIES.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US IN THIS PROJECT THAT THIS BE ADDRESSED
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREAS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE.
THE LANDSCAPING, WE'RE STILL CONTINUING WITH GRADY AND LOIS.
THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE.
WE HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR PERMITTING ALREADY, RIGHT?
TO BEGIN THAT PROJECT.

WE ARE MOVING ALONG.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE TO THE LAST ITEM?
12:01:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A COMPLIMENT.
THE HUNTS RECREATION CENTER USED TO BE CLOSE BY.
AL LOPEZ PARK IS THE CENTER WE MOVED OVER.
TIME THAT ANOTHER PARK, YOU CAN NEVER HAVE MORE PARKS, I
DON'T CARE WHAT CITY YOU ARE IN.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE A TREMENDOUS UPLIFT TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE WHOLE OF DREW PARK AND TO THE
ENTRANCE.
BECAUSE OF CARGO ROAD, TAMPA IS LIKE ANOTHER PATHWAY INTO
THE CITY.
YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT DOWN HILLSBOROUGH, WHICH I DO NOT
RECOMMEND.
I RECOMMEND CARGO ROAD, LESS TRAFFIC.
HUBERT BACKS UP, CARGO ROAD IS BACKING UP.
I SEE THAT ON SOUTH ON CARGO ROAD.
A LOT OF TRAFFIC NOW GOING IN AND OUT BECAUSE OF THE
DEVELOPMENT THERE.
THANK GOD THERE IS A BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE JOBS
AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S REALLY WORKING OUT FOR ALL OF US.
I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND EVERYBODY WHERE YOU
DO ALL YOUR WORK AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO MAKE THAT DREW PARK
A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, PLAY, AND ENJOY LIFE.

BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU ONE QUESTION, A FAVOR.
[ LAUGHTER ]
I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE DEFENSE.
I THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT UP NOW.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE A NICE TIME.
12:02:24PM >> DID YOU KNOW THAT WAS THE TOP THREE, IN THE TOP THREE
HISPANIC EVENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA?
FOR MANY REASONS, STARTING WITH COVID, WE POSTPONED IT.
WE'RE HOPING FOR 2026.
I GUESS JUST SAID IT OUT LOUD.
I HAVE TO GET TO WORK.
12:02:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE CROWD WAS ALL WITH YOU.
12:02:47PM >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
MY LAST COMMENT IS MR. RALPH LAVANDERA WAS A BOARD MEMBER
FOR DREW PARK.
ACTUALLY, HE WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE PARK BACK IN
THE DAY WHEN HE WAS A MEMBER.
HE HAS RECENTLY PASSED AWAY, APRIL 27.
I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND THE
WORK THAT HE DID FOR THE CRA AS WELL AS BEING A GREAT
NEIGHBOR AND A GREAT BUSINESS PERSON.
WE ARE MISSING HIM.
HE WAS ALSO MY NEIGHBOR ON HESPERIDES.
HE IS A WONDERFUL MAN, AND HE WAS VERY PROUD OF HIS SPANISH
HERITAGE.

CALLED ME HIS CUBAN COUSIN.
HE DID SOME RESEARCH.
WE MAY BE RELATED.
I WANT TO SAY HE'S A WONDERFUL MAN.
HE AND HIS WIFE STARTED LAVANDERA ELECTRIC, STILL GOING
STRONG IN DREW PARK.
WONDERFUL PERSON.
ALSO A DRAGON.
JEFFERSON PRODUCED A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE.
I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DO MISS
HIM AND JUST BRING UP RALPH LAVANDERA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:04:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:04:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY I HAD NOT SEEN THE SITE
DESIGN FOR THIS PARK YET.
I AM SO EXCITED BECAUSE I REMEMBER DRIVING BY WHEN I DID MY
FIRST TOURS.
IT WAS A BEAUTIFULLY WOODED LOT.
I WAS WORRIED HOW WE WERE GOING TO BUILD A PARK WITH THAT
MANY TREES.
I JUST LOVE THIS DESIGN.
CONGRATULATIONS.
I WILL CERTAINLY BE THERE FOR THE GROUNDBREAKING.
HOPEFULLY THE RIBBON CUTTING.
IT IS SO AMAZING.

CONGRATULATIONS.
I KNOW THE COMMUNITY HAS NEEDED A PARK FOR A WHILE.
AND ONE THAT'S NOT THE LINEAR PARK, BUT ONE THAT'S MORE
FAMILY AND SHADED, QUITE FRANKLY.
THE LINEAR PARK IS LOVELY, BUT NO SHADE THERE.
SO THIS WILL REALLY ENABLE THAT.
CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
12:04:52PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE ARE PROUD OF IT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
12:04:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
WE TALKED ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS OVER THE LAST FEW
YEARS.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO DEAL WITH.
AGAIN, I SALUTE YOU ALL.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT FAMILIES AND MAKING DREW
PARK AMENABLE FOR FAMILIES BECAUSE WE REMEMBER THE WAY IT
WAS 20 YEARS AGO AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
JUST MAKING IT A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES CAN BE PRODUCTIVE AND
HAVE A GOOD QUALITY TIME AND SO FORTH.
SO WE JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION.
12:05:22PM >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP FAMILIES.
BECAUSE WE ARE BUSINESS AND WE ARE ALSO RESIDENCES.

WE WORK VERY WELL TOGETHER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
12:05:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NEXT, NUMBER 2, MR. McCRAY.
BY THE WAY, IF I MAY, CRA BOARD, WE ARE PAST NOON.
12:05:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
USUALLY 1 IS WHEN WE END.
12:05:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE'RE FINE.
12:05:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY WITH 1?
STAFF?
HAVE AT IT.
1:00 LET'S ASPIRE.
12:05:56PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD AFTERNOON.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
IF I COULD MAKE ONE REQUEST FOR AN ADJUSTMENT, MR. DAVID
ILOANYA WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, AT THE REQUEST OF CHAIR
HENDERSON, WAS COMING FORWARD TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE
JOHNSON BROTHERS PROPERTIES.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND BRING HIM UP AT THIS POINT IN TIME
IF WE CAN.
12:06:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
12:06:28PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CRA BOARD.
IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.
BEFORE I START, I AM SADDENED BY THE SUDDEN DEPARTURE OF
BELOVED COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BECAUSE I WAS WITH HER IN
MARCH AT PERRY HARVEY PARK.
RIBBON CUTTING.

SHE LOOKED WELL.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR MY VOICE.
I HOPE IT'S NOT A DISTRACTION HERE.
SHE LOOKED WELL WITH THE ENERGY AND TENACITY AND FULL OF
PASSION.
TO HEAR OF THE SUDDEN DEPARTURE WAS A SHOCK TO EVERYONE I
KNOW.
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, JEROME, LEROY, I HAVE
THE STAFF HERE WITH ME, WE EXPRESS CONDOLENCES TO THE
FAMILY.
I KNOW THAT GOD DOESN'T MAKE MISTAKES.
WITH THAT, AND SHE IS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY REQUESTED FOR
THIS AND NOT KNOWING THAT SHE WILL NOT BE HERE, BUT GOD
KNOWS WHY.
WITH THAT, I WILL PROCEED.
12:07:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, SIR.
JUST SO WE KNOW, DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO, ROUGHLY HOW LONG DO
YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR THE PRESENTATION?
12:07:51PM >> I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF.
I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ABOUT 15 MINUTES OR SO.
10 MINUTES.
12:07:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU THINK 10 OR 15?
WE'LL PUT THE TIMER ON 10 JUST TO KEEP ABREAST.
12:08:07PM >> MY NAME IS DAVID ILOANYA.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TAMPA HOUSING

AUTHORITY.
I HAVE STAFF WITH ME.
12:08:53PM >> EXCELLENT.
THIS IS AN UPDATE ON JOHNSON BROTHERS' HOUSE.
THIS IS TWO OF THE LAST REMAINING TURN OF THE CENTURY HOUSES
IN THE ONCE THRIVING CENTRAL AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRICT OF THE
SCRUB.
THE HOUSES WERE PURCHASED BY JOHNSON BROTHERS IN 1921 --
1981.
2021, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY PURCHASED IT BACK.
THIS IS ALL IN LINE WITH OUR VISION WITH THE HISTORY OF
CENTRAL PARK WHICH IS NOW THE ENCORE TO MAKE SURE THAT
HISTORY IS RETAINED.
COUNCILWOMAN WAS VERY ADAMANT AND VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
THOSE ARE THE TWO HOUSES.
THIS GIVES YOU A QUICK REFERENCE IN TERMS OF CONTEXT WHERE
THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
THE SCRUB WAS ONCE TAMPA'S OLDEST AND LARGEST AFRICAN
AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT TRACES ITS HISTORY BACK JUST TO
THE CIVIL WAR NEWLY FREED SLAVES WERE FREED AND SETTLED AND
BUILT HOMES JUST OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
EVERYTHING ON THAT AVENUE BETWEEN 1900 AND 1930, THE CENTRAL
AVENUE BECOMES THE HEART OF THE SCRUB AT THAT TIME WHERE
THEY SETTLED.
BLACK POPULATIONS QUADRUPLED FROM OVER 4,000 TO 21,000.

LIKEWISE BUSINESSES ROSE AS WELL TO 200.
EVERYTHING THAT PERTAINS TO THE DAILY LIFE WAS COMING OUT OF
THAT CENTRAL PARK.
WHEN WE STARTED BUILDING, REDEVELOPING CENTRAL PARK TO
ENCORE, WE MADE SURE THAT HISTORY WAS RETAINED.
AGAIN, THIS IS A QUICK HISTORY OF THAT ERA.
BASEBALL GREAT JACKIE ROBINSON STAYED IN A BOARDING HOUSE
NOT FAR FROM THERE.
RAY CHARLES RECORDED HIS FIRST ALBUM WHILE RESIDING THERE.
ELLA FITZGERALD WROTE THE SONG, A TISKET A TASKET IN MY RED
AND YELLOW BASKET.
THE HIGHWAY, I-4 INTERFERED WITH THAT PRESENCE AND THAT
CONSTRUCTION SORT OF MOVED AWAY, ALL THE BLACK BUSINESSES IN
THAT AREA.
THAT IS WHEN CENTRAL PARK WAS BUILT.
THIS IS JUST GIVING YOU IN THE '50s, THE AERIAL VIEW, WHAT
THE SCRUB USED TO LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS LOOKING DOWN CENTRAL PARK.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE IT WAS DEMOLISHED.
OF COURSE, WE TRANSFORMED THAT TO WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS THE
ENCORE.
THE FIRST BUILDING BUILT WAS THE ELLA.
150 UNITS, ALL AFFORDABLE, CITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
IT WAS 12 CITY BLOCKS OF BUILDABLE.
ADJACENT TO PERRY HARVEY PARK.

BECAUSE OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT, WE WERE ABLE TO REJUVENATE
THE DILAPIDATED PERRY HARVEY PARK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
CITY, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND WE BROUGHT IT TO
LIFE.
CENTRAL PARK, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WAS ONLY EMPLOYED ROUGHLY 19
STAFF AND WAS NOT CONTRIBUTING TO ANY TAX BASE FOR THE CITY.
THIS REDEVELOPMENT, 483 UNITS.
UPON REDEVELOPMENT, WHEN SAID AND DONE, BRING OVER 2700
UNITS, INCLUDING WHAT WE DEVELOPED AND WHAT WE SOLD TO THIRD
PARTY DEVELOPERS, WHICH IS STILL ONGOING.
BANK OF AMERICA, WHO IS A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER FOR BUILDINGS,
669 UNITS OF WHICH 559 WERE AFFORDABLE, WHICH ACTUALLY
SURPASSES WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
THIS BUILDING, THE JOB TRAINING CENTER WAS, AGAIN, A
REQUIREMENT BASED ON THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED FROM HUD
TO BUILD A JOB TRAINING FACILITY, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT THAT CONTRIBUTED TO OVERALL DEVELOPMENT OF
THAT AREA.
THEN THE MEACHAM URBAN FARM, SWAP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE TURNED THAT INTO URBAN FARM, WHICH IS ON GOING AND HAS
BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF FOOD DESERT
AND FOOD PRODUCTIVE WITHIN THE AREA.
THE TAMPA BAY HISTORY MUSEUM, WHICH WAS THE CHURCH, BUILT IN
1921.
ANOTHER HISTORIC CHURCH WE PRESERVE.

THIS IS AGAIN LOOKING AT JOHNSON BROTHERS HOMES WHERE IT'S
LOCATED IN CONTEXT WITH THE ENCORE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT WE ARE
DOING HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN THE HISTORICALLY
PRESERVED JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME AND MAKE SURE THAT IT ALIGNS
WITH OUR VISION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE ACQUIRED THE LOTS IN THAT AREA TO MIMIC WHAT USED TO BE
IN THAT AREA DURING THE SCRUB ERA AS JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME
WAS THE ONLY TWO REMAINING SCRUB BUILT HOUSES THAT REMAIN.
WE WANTED TO REPLICATE THOSE TYPE OF BUILDINGS, BUT IN
TODAY'S ARCHITECTURAL FABRICS.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING HERE.
AND SELL IT TO THIRD PARTY AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE
THEN IT WOULD DISAPPEAR FROM THERE.
THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU THE TAMPA CRA AREA, WHICH IS 143
ACRES.
WHAT -- THIS IS WHAT WE, AGAIN, JUST SHOWING THE ACQUISITION
THAT WE ENGAGED IN DURING THE REDEVELOPMENT OF CENTRAL PARK
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY IN CONNECTIVITY
AND THE PROFICIENCY OF THE REDEVELOPMENT VISION TO MAKE SURE
IT'S WELL CONNECTED WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
BACK TO THE JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE
NOW.
WE HAVE EFFECTIVELY BEEN ABLE TO SECURE THE LAND AREA FOR
ALL THAT.
AND IN DOING THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE

EFFICIENCY IN TERMS OF CIRCULATION IN AND OUT OF THAT SITE.
WE ARE PROJECTING THE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S
CONSISTENT.
JOHNSON BROTHERS HOMES, THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE DESIGNATION
OF THE PRESERVATION THAT WE GOT FROM THE CITY AND THE
HISTORIC JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME.
THIS IS JUST THE HOUSES AGAIN SHOWING -- THIS IS A PUBLIC
NOTICE THAT WE PUT OUT IN 2023 THAT IS A REQUIREMENT WHEN WE
REQUEST FOR HISTORIC LOCAL LANDMARK THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE
CITY.
THAT IS THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ISSUED WHEN IT WAS ISSUED.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SPECIFIC TO THOSE TWO BUILDINGS.
WE ENVISION HAVING THOSE TWO BUILDINGS IS PROPOSED.
ONE WOULD BE FOR A GIFT SHOP.
THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE FOR A COFFEE SHOP.
WE ARE RETAINING THE FABRIC OF THE BUILDING TO MAINTAIN THAT
HISTORIC PRESENCE OF THE FABRIC.
BUT WITHIN THE INSIDE, WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO MAKE SURE
THAT IT ACCOMMODATES TODAY'S ADA AND CIRCULATION OF THE
INNER SPACE.
12:18:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW MUCH LONGER, THREE MINUTES? FIVE MINUTES?
12:18:15PM >> ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.
AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND TIME WITH THIS IN TERMS OF THE
LAYOUT.
ONE OF THE HOUSES, AGAIN, IS SET TO BE USED FOR A GIFT SHOP.

THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE REARRANGEMENT OF THE INTERIOR SPACE
AS PART OF THE SPACE PLANNING, SHOWING YOU WHAT IT WAS AND
WHAT WE HAVE WHEN IT IS DONE.
BUT BEING CAREFUL TO SALVAGE WHAT WE CAN TO RETAIN THE
ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE OF THE OLD BUILDING.
THE OTHER SIDE WILL BE FOR COFFEE SHOP.
THE FLOOR PLAN ON THE RIGHT JUST SHOWING THE LAYOUT AGAIN,
YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.
WE'RE GOING AFTER PD.
WE HAVE ENGAGED STEARNS WEAVER FIRM TO HELP US WITH THE
REZONING, WHICH WILL BE COMING TO THE CITY.
ABOUT SIX TO NINE MONTHS TO ACCOMPLISH.
THIS WILL BE GOING ON.
SO THIS IS, AGAIN, ALL THE AREA THAT WE WORK HARD TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE AREAS, ACCOMPLISH THE
VISION FOR THAT AREA, TO REIMAGINE THE SCRUB PROJECT.
AGAIN, THIS IS A COLLABORATION THAT WAS STARTED WITH WIRE
DEVELOPMENT, A MINORITY DEVELOPER THAT WE ENGAGED WHO
BROUGHT IN AN ARCHITECT TO HELP US PROVIDE A VISION IN TERMS
OF ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE.
THIS IS AGAIN, REMINDING THE AREA VIEW OF WHAT THE AREA USED
TO LOOK LIKE FROM 1957 ALL THE WAY TO 2021.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CLARITY IN TERMS OF DENSIFICATION AS WE
APPROACH TO TODAY'S VISION.
THIS IS, AGAIN, THE LINED AREA IN THE '20s.

THIS IS WHAT WE REIMAGINE IN THE SCRUB TO BE.
SO YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEE THE SIZE OF THE LOT TO MIMIC THE
JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME BUT AGAIN TO HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL
PRESENCE FOR TODAY'S --
12:20:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:20:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO COME IN FRONT OF
COUNCIL AS A REZONING, I DON'T THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE TO
SEE THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF IT.
12:21:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU'RE RIGHT.
THAT IS A GREAT POINT.
12:21:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
I THINK WE SHOULD NOT SEE THIS PORTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
US TO NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THIS.
12:21:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WELL SAID.
TO THE EXTENT IT GOES TO THE REZONING, YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SPEAK IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE IT WILL BE BEFORE US
IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL CAPACITY.
GO AHEAD AFTER THAT.
12:21:25PM >> I WILL SKIP THROUGH ALL THIS.
I'M ONLY SPEAKING IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL VISION
IS.
12:21:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AGAIN, NOTHING ON THAT REZONING.
ZERO.
12:21:35PM >> ALL RIGHT.
WELL, WITH THAT SAID, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE ARE PLANNING

TO UTILIZE THE SITE AREA TO MIMIC WHAT USED TO BE THERE
BEFORE.
I'M NOT SHOWING YOU --
12:21:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU CAN'T SHOW US, YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO IT.
NOTHING.
I WOULD TAKE THAT WHOLE PART AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
12:21:58PM >> ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS WHAT THE REPRESENTATION OF SIMILAR TO JOHNSON
BROTHERS HOME THAT WE HAVE PICTURED HERE AS WHAT WE ARE
LOOKING.
12:22:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS PROBABLY THE RESULT.
AGAIN, ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE REZONING, WE CAN'T LEGALLY
TALK ABOUT IT OUTSIDE OF THE HEARING.
12:22:21PM >> THIS IS JUST THE ARCHITECTURE OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO
DO.
I UNDERSTAND.
12:22:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S CAUSALLY RELATED.
GO BEYOND THAT TO WHATEVER YOUR NEXT THING IS OUTSIDE --
12:22:31PM >> THE ONLY THING IS THAT IT IS GOOD THAT WE ARE DOING THIS.
IT IS GOOD THAT WE HAVE A SITE CONTROL WHERE THIS IS
LOCATED. WHAT WE ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RETAIN THE
PRESENCE OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THIS BUILDING TO SORT OF
RETAIN THAT HISTORY OF JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME BECAUSE THOSE
TWO ARE THE ONLY REMAINING SCRUB BUILDING, HOUSES IN THAT

AREA.
THAT ARE REMAINING TODAY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE THAT HISTORY.
AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON REMINDED US OF AND
WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BEFORE SHE LEFT.
12:23:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
12:23:19PM >> SHE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE AND WANTED TO SEE WHERE WE ARE
WITH THE PROJECT.
12:23:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR PRESENTATION.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY THOUGHTS ON IT?
BY THE WAY, SINCE WE'RE KEEPING MIND OF THE 1:00 CLOCK, ARE
YOU ALL OKAY WITH TWO-MINUTE LIMITS ON SPEAKING AT THIS
TIME?
12:23:35PM >> YES.
12:23:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HAVE AT IT.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:23:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING, WHY WE SAY
WHAT WE SAID, FOUR WORDS, YESTERDAY, TODAY, TOMORROW, AND
FOREVER, WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT YESTERDAY.
ON COUNCIL WE CAN TALK ABOUT TODAY, TOMORROW AND FOREVER.
IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND AT TIMES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:54PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:23:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
I'M GLAD TO SEE EVEN THOUGH THEY -- ESSENTIALLY, THEY,
HISTORY ESSENTIALLY WIPED OUT AN ENTIRE BLACK COMMUNITY,
LIKE DEMOLISHING YBOR CITY.
YOU THINK ABOUT CENTRAL AVENUE, LIKE A 7th AVENUE.
AND YBOR CITY ALTHOUGH HAD SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BECAUSE OF
URBAN RENEWAL AND THE INTERSTATE AND SO MANY OTHER ASPECTS,
CENTRAL AVENUE IS ESSENTIALLY WIPED OUT.
I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.
EVEN MY WIFE, SHE IS STUDYING TO GET HER MASTERS AND SHE DID
A PAPER ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
ITS DISAPPEARANCE.
SHE WATCHED THE DOCUMENTARY.
I TOLD HER I CAN'T TAKE YOU DOWN THERE TO SHOW YOU OTHER
THAN JACKSON HOUSE, JOHNSON BROTHERS HOME, ST. JAMES,
LONGSHOREMEN, VERY LITTLE IS LEFT.
SO WE HAVE TO PRESERVE WHAT IS STILL THERE AND THE JOHNSON
BROTHERS HOMES IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT IS A GLIMPSE
INTO THE PAST AND WHAT USED TO BE.
SO PEOPLE CAN IMAGINE IT, SEE IT WITHOUT HAVING TO LOOK AT
PHOTOGRAPHS.
I THINK YOU DOING THIS AND YOUR ORGANIZATION I THINK IS A
VERY GOOD THING.
I WISH THERE WERE MORE STRUCTURES.
AS YOU SHOWED IN THE PHOTOS FROM 1957 TO 1969, AND WE HAD

RIOTS IN BETWEEN AND A LOT OF OTHER SITUATIONS, THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT THE SAME AND NOTHING LIKE IT USED TO BE.
SO ANY TYPE OF PRESERVATION IS ALWAYS A PLUS IN MY BOOK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:25:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYONE ELSE?
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING, TAKE AWAY THE QUASI-JUDICIAL
MATTER IN TERMS OF THE INTENT OF EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
I KNOW WE ALL FULLY SUPPORT IT.
IT'S SOMETHING AFTER THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN'S HEART.
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:25:50PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IT'S IN OUR HEART, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT TAMPA HOUSING
AUTHORITY WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S
THE ONLY WAY THIS PROPERTY WOULD HAVE BEEN SUSTAINED AND
RETAINED TO KEEP OUR HISTORY IN PLACE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:26:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
MR. McCRAY, ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU, SIR?
12:26:11PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, I KNOW WE'RE

TRYING TO MOVE THE AGENDA ALONG, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
RELATED TO THE TRACKERS THAT WERE INCLUDED PER YOUR REQUEST.
AND YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER AT YOUR SEAT
AT THE DAIS.
JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
OTHER THAN THAT, I WILL CALL UP MR. CAMPBELL TO COME AND
PRESENT AS IT RELATES TO ASHLEY UNITE.
12:26:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM
4?
APPRECIATE IT.
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR YOUR PRESENTATION?
12:26:46PM >> WHEN I WENT OVER IT, IT WAS TEN MINUTES.
I'LL MAKE IT FASTER.
12:26:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE'LL CLOCK YOU AT 10.
12:26:53PM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD.
BRANDON CAMPBELL WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY.
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR REQUEST
FOR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR THE ASHLEY DRIVE RECONNECTING
COMMUNITIES PROJECT.
I KNOW I HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU IN YOUR CAPACITY AS CITY
COUNCIL BEFORE, SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE ASPECTS
AND MANY OF THE ASPECTS, I SHOULD SAY, OF THIS PROJECT.
BECAUSE OF THAT, I'LL SPEED THROUGH WHAT I HAD PREVIOUSLY

UPLOADED.
THE REQUEST ITSELF IS FOR $8 MILLION TOWARD OUR $22 MILLION
PROJECT.
MR. McCRAY HAD UPLOADED TO YOUR AGENDA TODAY THE DETAILS
OF THAT REQUEST, SPLIT OVER THREE DIFFERENT FISCAL YEARS AND
ITS TIE INTO THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AS HE AND I HAD DISCUSSED AS WELL AS I HAD PRESENTED TO THE
CAC.
DO HAVE A VIDEO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL INCLUDE AUDIO.
IT'S OKAY IF IT IS SILENT.
BUT WANTED TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT.
JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL CONTEXT TO WHERE THIS
IS AND HOW IT'S RELATED TO THE REST OF OUR NETWORK DOWNTOWN.
THE PRIMARY WORK ITEM OF THIS PROJECT IS THE REMOVAL OF THAT
BRIDGE BARRIER ON ASHLEY DRIVE NORTHBOUND.
THE RECONNECTION OF HARRISON STREET IN THAT VICINITY TO
BETTER CONNECT THE GRID, BRING THAT DOWN TO GRADE, ALLOW FOR
BETTER ACCESS TO THE AREA, SPECIFICALLY FOR ACTIVE
TRANSPORTATION USERS, AND THEN TO ENABLE THE HIGHEST
REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY CURRENTLY
UNDER AN RFP.
YOU, I'M SURE ARE AWARE THAT THE ALIGNMENT OF THE FUTURE
EXTENSION OF THE STREETCAR ROUTE, SHOULD THAT COME TO
FRUITION, IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THAT.

IT IS ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE RIVERFRONT, THE
EXISTING RIVERWALK, AND THE WEST RIVERWALK IS UNDERWAY.
AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ON THE PERIPHERY OF THIS AREA,
NORTHERN PART OF DOWNTOWN, THE ROME YARD REDEVELOPMENT,
ENCORE DISTRICT WHICH WAS JUST DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS
ITEM AND THEN JUST SORT ON THE NEXT OUTER RING IS THE
GASWORX REDEVELOPMENT.
THESE ARE ALL RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER, BUT MOSTLY WHAT I
WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WITH THIS VIDEO WAS THE PROXIMITY OF THE
ASHLEY DRIVE PROJECT TO SOME OF OUR OTHER ACTIVE
TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES.
IT'S ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM THE GREEN SPINE, WHICH HAS BEEN
BUILT OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS AND JUST ENTERING ITS FINAL
PHASE.
THE NEXT SET OF PICTURES, ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING
CONFIGURATION.
YOU CAN SEE THAT SLIP LANE FROM SOUTHBOUND ASHLEY DRIVE ONTO
TAMPA STREET AND THE REMOVAL OF THAT THAT'S ENVISIONED WITH
THE RENDERING ON THE RIGHT, BRINGING THAT AGAIN DOWN TO THE
GRADE OF THE REST OF THE NETWORK.
THIS PICTURE IS SOMETHING I BROUGHT IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN I
SPOKE TO YOU AS CITY COUNCIL.
BUT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT EXACTLY THE AREA THAT WE ARE PLANNING
TO RECONSTRUCT WITH THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT IS THAT OUTLINED
IN RED.

OUTLINED IN BLUE ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS IS A
SEPARATE F.D.O.T. PROJECT THAT THEY HAVE YET TO PROGRAM, BUT
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON COORDINATING PROJECT NEEDS.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT OF THAT PICTURE IS THAT RFP, 25P-85,
THAT HAS BEEN ADVERTISED FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF ARMY NAVY
AND THE REGIONAL LOT.
WE ARE BRINGING THIS NORTHBOUND DOWN TO GRADE.
WE'LL HAVE AN AT-GRADE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION WITH HARRISON
WHICH WILL BE EXTENDED FROM THAT -- FROM ITS NEW TERMINUS, I
GUESS I WOULD SAY, OR REESTABLISHED TERMINUS AT TAMPA
STREET, AND THEN ON OVER TO WHERE IT WOULD ALIGN WITH WHAT
IS NOW FORTUNE STREET.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS OF THE CONCEPT AS WELL.
THIS IS FROM A LITTLE BIT OF AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE, SHOWING
THAT BRIDGE ON THE LEFT THAT IS GOING TO BE REMOVED.
AND THEN THE RENDERING SHOWING SOME ENHANCEMENTS TO THE
BICYCLIST AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AS WELL.
AND THE BACKGROUND OF THAT PICTURE, SOME POSSIBILITY FOR
REDEVELOPMENT UNDER THAT EXISTING RFP.
HERE IT IS FROM THE STREET LEVEL.
I LIKE THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT BECAUSE IT DOES ADEQUATELY
REPRESENT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU'RE APPROACHING AND THE
SORT OF BARRIERS YOU WOULD ENCOUNTER SHOULD YOU WISH TO
CROSS THAT ROAD ON FOOT OR ON BICYCLE.
BUT ALSO IT SHOWS THE SORT OF WIDE-OPEN SPACE THAT

ENCOURAGES HIGHER SPEEDS FOR THE SOUTHBOUND VEHICLES.
TIES BACK INTO THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN ARE
ALSO IN THE MEMO THAT MR. McCRAY HAD UPLOADED.
BUT THESE ARE DIRECTLY FROM THAT AND RELATED VERY CLOSELY TO
THE PROJECT AS WE ENVISION IT, TO CREATE AN EFFICIENT
PATTERN OF CIRCULATION FOR TRANSIT USE, IDENTIFYING
ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRAVEL.
MENTIONED THE STREETCAR EXTENSION AS WELL AS THE OTHER
ALTERNATE MODES THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, TO PROVIDE FOR
UTILIZING THE WATERFRONT TO ITS BEST ADVANTAGE.
AGAIN THIS OPENS UP ONE ADDITIONAL DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE
WATERFRONT AND TO THE RIVERWALK.
AND THEN TO DEVELOP A MIXED USE OR URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
BRINGING THAT DOWN TO GRADE ENABLES A LITTLE HIGHER
POTENTIAL FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING
CONSIDERED.
THIS TABLE REFLECTS WHAT IS IN THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION THAT
HAS COME BEFORE YOU ACTING AS CITY COUNCIL AND HAS BEEN
CONTINUED TO JUNE 26.
BUT THIS GRANT REQUEST OR THE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING REQUEST
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY IS THE $8 MILLION TOWARD THE
OVERALL ANTICIPATED PROJECT COST OF 22 MILLION.
SO THAT SAID, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:33:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS THE MAKER OF THE
MOTION.

THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:33:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WHILE WE'RE HERE, SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR 8
MILLION BUT THEN 8.65 MILLION LEFT.
THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE PROGRAMMED.
12:33:34PM >> YEAH.
SO I THINK OUR CFO HAS SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT THIS A LITTLE
BIT.
THE THIRD LINE ITEM DOWN THAT'S $4.7 MILLION IS EXISTING
BOND FUNDING THAT IS ON A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT JUST
WASN'T QUITE ENOUGH TO FUND THE PROJECT AS INITIALLY
ENVISIONED.
SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE REALLOCATED.
THE GRANT AMOUNT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNDER THE
RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES PROGRAM IS 5.3.
AND THE YET TO BE DETERMINED LINE ITEM IS THAT NEARLY $4
MILLION.
THAT I THINK DENNIS WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU SPEAKING ABOUT
WHAT POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCES OR FUND SOURCES WOULD DO
THAT.
12:34:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES?
GO ONE MORE BACK.
SO -- ONE MORE BACK.
ONE OF THE FIRST ORIGINAL PHOTOS -- SORRY, MAYBE TWO MORE.
AT THE VERY TOP, I CAN SEE WHERE YOU ARE RECONNECTING

HARRISON.
WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING TO LAUREL?
WILL LAUREL STILL GO UNDER A BRIDGE OF SOME SORT?
12:34:50PM >> IT WILL.
THOSE BRIDGES ARE PART OF F.D.O.T.
12:34:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD TO KNOW.
YOU HAD LIKE A STANDING VIEW OF WHAT THOSE NEW GRADE LEVEL
STREETS WERE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
ONE MORE.
YEAH, THIS.
WHAT I NOTICED ABOUT THIS NEW VISION FROM ASHLEY DRIVE FROM
ABOVE, IS THAT LOOKS LIKE SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC.
I'M GOING TO SAY THAT'S JUST -- THAT'S TOO MANY LANES.
THAT'S GOING TO BE MY BIG THING IS THAT IS JUST WAY TOO MANY
LANES.
WHEN YOU HAVE SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC, IT IS NO LONGER A
DOWNTOWN STREET.
IT IS AN INTERSTATE.
12:35:40PM >> UNDERSTOOD.
12:35:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHILE I DO SEE THAT SOME OF THOSE ARE
RIGHT-HAND TURN, LIKE THE ONE GOING NORTH, I UNDERSTAND
THAT'S TURNING ONTO, BUT THE ONES COMING INTO DOWNTOWN, I
REALLY DO BELIEVE BECAUSE NOW IT'S FOUR LANES AT THAT
INTERSECTION.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ENTERING OUR DOWNTOWN.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS
ASHLEY DRIVE ACTS STILL LIKE AN INTERSTATE WHEN PEOPLE COME
OFF OF IT.
IF YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO REIMAGINE THIS, WE NEED TO
REIMAGINE IT TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC AS IT COMES INTO DOWNTOWN,
NOT STILL CREATE THE SPEEDWAY THAT EXISTS TODAY.
WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE COMING DOWNTOWN.
THAT'S HOW I COME IN THE MORNING.
AND JUST THE SPEED OF PEOPLE SPEEDING DOWN ASHLEY.
IF WE REALLY WANT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS THE RIVERWALK
AND THERE'S DOWNTOWN.
AND IT DOES NOT CONNECT.
THERE ARE CROSSWALKS THAT ARE DANGEROUS, BUT THERE'S NO
FEELING THAT IT ALL BELONGS TOGETHER.
THE SIX LANES IS WHY.
SO I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE YOU AS WE LOOK AT THIS TO REDUCE
IT FROM SIX LANES TO FOUR LANES AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
WE CAN BRING THIS DOWN BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP.
THE THING THAT I WANT TO TALK TO COUNCIL ABOUT, I'M SORRY,
TO THE BOARD ABOUT, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP TODAY, THAT I BELIEVE THAT
THE CRA SHOULD PAY FOR ALL OF THIS.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA SHOULD PUT --
SHOULD BOND MONEY FOR THIS.
IF YOU COULD GO TO THE LAST SLIDE WHERE IT LOOKS AT THE

MONEY.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE THAT
8.65, THE ENTIRE, THE 8.65 MILLION, THE ADDITIONAL 8.65
MILLION TO COME FROM DOWNTOWN OVER A SET OF MORE YEARS, AND
WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
AND IT TAKE THAT 4.7 MILLION FROM THE UNALLOCATED OR THE
REALLOCATED BOND FUND THAT WE HAVE JUST SITTING AND PUT THAT
TOWARD PAYING OFF SOME OF THE WEST RIVERWALK, AND THE REASON
I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO
LESSEN THE DEBT WE NEED TO ASK FOR, FOR THAT PROJECT.
BY TAKING THE MONEY FROM THE CRA, WHICH THIS IS THE CRA THAT
HAS THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WE DON'T TECHNICALLY HAVE A LOT IN OUR POCKET RIGHT NOW.
IF WE EXPAND IT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, I HAVE TALKED TO A
FEW PEOPLE IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA WHO DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
IT.
I DEFINITELY THINK THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS AS A COUNCIL
MEMBERS MONTH OR I BELIEVE IN TWO WEEKS, THAT THIS IS WHAT I
THINK IS THE MOST FISCALLY PRUDENT THING TO DO.
BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT IF IT TAKES A PENNY OF
MONEY FROM CITY COFFERS.
IF THIS NEEDS TO BE PAID FOR BY THE CRA, WE DON'T HAVE $4
MILLION TO BOND FOR THIS.
THE REST OF THE CITY HAS TOO MANY NEEDS.
12:38:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.

NEXT.
I WANT TO GO IN ORDER HERE.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I SAW COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU RAISED YOUR HAND.
I APOLOGIZE IF YOU WERE BEFORE THAT.
COUNCIL, AGAIN, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO END BY 1:00.
DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OR 1:15 NOW?
AGAIN, LET'S NOT FILL IT ALL UP.
HAVE AT IT.
12:39:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I FIND IT SARCASTICALLY HILARIOUS THAT WITHIN MY PARENTS'
LIFETIME, BORN IN THE LATE 1950s, THAT WE'RE UNDOING THE
WRONGS OF THE INTERSTATE AND TRYING TO RECONNECT BLOCKS AND
GRIDS THAT WERE THERE ORIGINALLY.
BUT WITH THE BUTCHERING OF THE INTERSTATE, YOU SEE HOW IT'S
CHOPPED EVERYTHING UP.
TO THE POINT OF COUNCIL MEMBER -- SORRY, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK
REGARDING IT LOOKS LIKE A SIX-LANE HIGHWAY, WHEN PEOPLE ARE
COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE, PSYCHOLOGICALLY THEY ARE ALREADY
GOING 55, 60 MILES AN HOUR.
THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SLOW DOWN TO THAT 30-MILE AN HOUR I

THINK IS WHAT IT IS DOWNTOWN.
NOT EVERYBODY SLOWS DOWN.
BECAUSE I TAKE TAMPA STREET EVERY DAY.
AS PEOPLE ARE COMING OFF THE RAMP, IT IS A GAME.
I PLAY A GAME OF DON'T GET INTO A CAR ACCIDENT.
ANOTHER THING, SO THAT IS AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE TO REDUCE
IT.
WHEN I CROSS ASHLEY DRIVE, COMING FROM CURTIS HIXON, COMING
OFF THE RIVERWALK, IT DOESN'T FEEL PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
I'M LIKE THIS THE WHOLE TIME.
I HAVE TRUST ISSUES.
I LOOK BOTH WAYS ON A ONE-WAY STREET.
ANYWAYS, MY CONCERNS ARE WITH THIS DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION COMMUNITY, THE RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES
GRANT, IS THAT IN DANGER?
BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE FIGHTING RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE WHOLE DOGE THING, IS THIS AFFECTING US?
HAVE WE BEEN CUT OUT?
ARE WE IN DANGER OF LOSING THE FUNDING?
12:40:44PM >> AS OF MY LAST UPDATE WITH FHWA, THE UNDERSTANDING WAS
THAT ALL GRANTS FOR WHICH WE HAVE AN EXECUTED GRANT
AGREEMENT ARE IN THE CLEAR.
CERTAINLY CAN'T SPEAK TO ANYTHING THAT THEY MIGHT CHANGE
THEIR MIND.
12:40:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE SAFE.

THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
FINALLY I'LL WRAP UP WITH, IN REGARDS TO THE DOWNTOWN CRA, I
CALL IT THE WEALTHIEST.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO OVER
THE LIFETIME OF THE CRA, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT
WE LOOK AT HAVING THE CRA FUND THIS IN ITS COMPLETION BUT
NOT TAKEN OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
I THINK IT EASES THE BURDEN ON OUR BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S A LOT
OF MONEY.
LIKE I TOLD SOMEBODY YESTERDAY, WHEN YOU BOND A MILLION
DOLLARS, YOU PAY BACK 1.8, 1.9 MILLION.
IT IS GOING TO COST US A LOT OF MONEY.
IF THE CRA CAN HANDLE IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU.
12:41:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CLENDENIN, THEN MIRANDA.
WE HAVE A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
JUST IN CASE.
12:41:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER HURTAK ABOUT THE
HIGH SPEED LOOK OF THAT WITH THREE LANES ON EACH SIDE.
I WISH IT LOOKED MORE LIKE A BOULEVARD.
TO ME THIS IS A CHANCE TO DO A GRAND ENTRANCE TO TAMPA AND
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
ALSO, I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST WEEK A LITTLE BIT AND WE
HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT YET.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO ANY MORE BIKE LANES THAT AREN'T
PROTECTED LANES.
INSTEAD OF MEASURING BIKE LANE MILES, WE SHOULD HAVE
PROTECTED LANES THAT PEOPLE FEEL SAFE TO RIDE ON.
I KNOW GOING THROUGH AN INTERSECTION YOU CAN'T DO THAT, BUT
FROM THE RENDERING THERE, BUT IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS.
I WAS IN BOSTON LAST WEEK AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF THESE --
THEY HAVE PROTECTED LANES BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THE GREEN LANES
LIKE YOU HAD THERE, THE GREEN ZEBRA LANES.
THEY ARE REALLY DANGEROUS EVERYWHERE.
SOME PLACES IN EUROPE, SOME PLACES HAVE BETTER PROTECTED
LANES.
SOME PLACES PUT IT TO THE RIGHT OF THE PARKING SPACES SO
IT'S EVEN MORE PROTECTED.
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
WHERE DID THE CITY BEFORE THE REQUEST OF THE CRA, WHERE DID
THE CITY PLAN ON GETTING THE $8 MILLION FROM?
12:43:13PM >> SO WHEN THE INITIAL GRANT APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED, THE
ANTICIPATED COST WAS LOWER.
IT WAS $11 MILLION AT THE TIME, SO GOING TO BE A 50-50 COST
SHARE BETWEEN FHWA AND THE CITY.
THAT WAS BEFORE MY INVOLVEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE FIVE AND A HALF MILLION OR SO
WAS IDENTIFIED AT THAT POINT.
12:43:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT YEAR WAS THAT?

12:43:39PM >> SO THE AWARD WAS ANNOUNCED IN FEBRUARY OF 2023.
THE APPLICATION WOULD HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED SOMETIME IN 2022.
12:43:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, SIMILAR TO THE THINKING, MAYBE
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT BOARD MEMBER HURTAK SAID, I'M
OKAY WITH PRESUMING, YOU TALK TO THE CAC ABOUT THIS, TOO,
BUT I'M OKAY WITH CRA MONEY BEING USED THIS KIND OF THING.
IN THE PAST USED FOR SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPERS WHICH I'M
COMPLETELY AGAINST.
THIS IS THE KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ENABLES, IT IS THE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PRIVATE SECTOR DOESN'T DO THAT THEN
ENABLES DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT.
I THINK THAT'S BETTER.
BUT IF THERE ARE ANY OFFSETS, I THINK THE HIGHEST PRIORITY
IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW IS FILLING POTHOLES, FIXING ROADS AND
STORMWATER.
I'M COMPLETELY AGAINST THE WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT AT THIS
TIME.
I'M NOT AGAINST IT LONG TERM, BUT AGAINST IT AT THIS TIME.
I HOPE WE CAN STOP IT AND REDIRECT THE MONEY TOWARD STOPPING
PEOPLE'S HOUSES FROM BEING FLOODED.
I AGREE WITH HER THINKING THAT IF THERE'S ANY BOND MONEY OR
ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD COVER, THAT WE PICK IT BACK UP
SOMEWHERE THAT IS A PRIORITY ON THE CITY.
I THINK WE SHOULD INSIST, WE CAN ALL DEBATE WHERE WE THINK
THE MONEY SHOULD GO.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY WOULD HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THIS
AT ALL KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE A $12 MILLION DEFICIT ON IT.
JUST SOMEHOW BANKING THAT THE CRA WOULD FUND IT.
THIS CONVERSATION I THINK SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A LONG TIME
AGO.
ANYWAY, IF THERE'S SOME OFFSET OF GENERAL FUND MONEY, I
THINK THE CRA BOARD SHOULD PUT A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT
DEMANDS THAT THAT -- ANY OF THE OFFSET MONEY BE SPENT A
SPECIFIC WAY AT THE CITY.
MY CHOICE WOULD NOT BE THE WEST RIVERWALK.
WOULD BE ROADS OR STORMWATER.
12:45:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PART OF THIS IS TIMELY BECAUSE OF THE
F.D.O.T. RECONFIGURATION OF THE INTERSTATE AND WHAT THEY DO
WITH THE ASHLEY STREET.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY DRIVING THE TIMING.
12:45:57PM >> WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION UNDER THE GRANT AGREEMENT TO GET
IT DONE TOWARD THE END OF 2029.
THAT WILL LIKELY DERIVE THE OVERALL TIME FRAME FOR THE
NEEDED RECONFIGURATION OF THE F.D.O.T. PROJECT.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN AND SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF
MORE SO THAN I SHOULD.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE WAITING TO SEE EXACTLY HOW WE'RE
GOING TO HANDLE THIS PROJECT BEFORE THEY MAKE A FINAL
DECISION ON HOW THEY WOULD HANDLE THE RECONFIGURATION OF
THAT SCOTT STREET INTERSECTION WITH TAMPA.

12:46:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE BOARD
MEMBERS UNDERSTOOD.
IT IS BEYOND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
ALSO F.D.O.T. IS INVOLVED BECAUSE OF THE INTERSTATE
RECONSTRUCTION.
WHAT COMES FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG?
IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, THEN THEY'LL RECONFIGURE DIFFERENTLY.
12:46:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHY CAN'T F.D.O.T. PAY MORE OF IT?
12:46:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS NOT F.D.O.T. PROPERTY.
IT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THEY'LL DO THEIR PORTION.
THIS IS WHAT WE DUMP ON AND HOW THEY CONFIGURE THEIRS IS
WHAT WE DUMP ON.
THAT'S THE CRITICAL DECISION POINT IS FOR THEIR PROJECT, HOW
THEY EXIT THEIR PROJECT INTO THE CITY AND THEN HOW WE
ACCOMMODATE THAT EXIT.
I AGREE HUNDRED PERCENT WITH COUNCILMAN HURTAK, EXCEPT THE
PROBLEM IS WE HAVE A CASH FLOW ISSUE IN DOWNTOWN CRA AND
UNDERSTANDING THE TIMING WITH F.D.O.T.
12:47:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN EXPAND IT.
12:47:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN, BUT THE NEED, UNLESS WE BOND
THROUGH THE CRA.
12:47:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
I'M SORRY.
TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, SO WE COULD ASK WHAT THAT WOULD

LOOK LIKE OVER TIME.
BASICALLY HOW WE'VE DONE IT WITH OUR REGULAR PROJECTS WHERE
WE KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A FUND THAT WE FLOAT FOR A
LITTLE WHILE.
12:47:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AGREE, EXCEPT FOR, MAYBE CEDRIC CAN
PROVIDE SOME CLARITY.
AGAIN, ALONG WITH BRANDON ON WHAT THAT TIMELINE HAS TO WORK
WITH, HOW THE FUNDING, BEING ABLE TO SPREAD IT OUT MATCHES
OUR ACTUAL CASH.
12:47:59PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD AFTERNOON.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
BASED ON THE APPLICATION, THE FUNDING YEARS WERE ROUGHLY '27
TO '29 FOR THE 8 MILLION.
WE MAY SEE AN INCREASE OR ANTICIPATE AN INCREASE BASED ON
SOME OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN DOWNTOWN TO THE
VARIOUS CULTURAL ARTS INSTITUTIONS AND THE LIKE.
WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING OR MAKE AN
ADJUSTMENT TO FY '28 TO MAYBE FIND SOME OTHER DOLLARS TO GET
TO THE INCREASED AMOUNT.
12:48:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF WE WANTED AN EXTRA 8 MILLION, HOW WOULD
THAT AMORTIZE IN THE CASH FLOW WITH DOWNTOWN CRA?
12:48:39PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
IT COULD BE DONE --
12:48:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AFTER '29?
12:48:43PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES OR STARTING FY '28.
12:48:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW MUCH IN 28, 29, 30?

12:48:51PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
12:48:56PM >>COURTNEY ORR:
CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 2 MILLION BUDGETED OF THE ORIGINAL 8
REQUEST.
2 MILLION IN 27, 3 IN 28 AND 3 IN 29.
I WOULD THINK THAT WE IN 28 COULD LIFT THAT 3 MILLION AND 29
LIFT THAT 3 MILLION.
12:49:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO HOW MUCH?
12:49:17PM >>COURTNEY ORR:
CASH FLOW, IN FISCAL YEAR 28, LOOKS LIKE WE
WOULD HAVE AVAILABLE 12 MILLION.
12:49:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
8 TO 12.
WOULDN'T REACH THE FULL 16 --
12:49:29PM >>COURTNEY ORR:
PROBABLY TO BE PRUDENT WOULDN'T USE THE FULL
12, LOOKING EXTRA REVENUE.
PROBABLY WOULD WANT TO DIVIDE THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
WHAT OTHER ASKS MIGHT COME FORWARD.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO USE THAT ENTIRE 12 IN '28 THAT MAY COME
AVAILABLE.
RATHER SPREAD SOME TO 28 AND 29.
12:49:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T NEED 12.
WE NEED 8.65.
12:49:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, PLUS --
12:49:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE NEED 16.65.
12:49:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXACTLY.

BRANDON, WHAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE TO MEET WITH
F.D.O.T.?
12:50:03PM >> WE'RE ANTICIPATING DESIGN TO BE COMPLETE IN LATE 2027
CALENDAR YEAR AND THEN CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN SHORTLY AFTER
THAT, THROUGH 2029.
12:50:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MONEY NEEDS WOULD HAVE TO BE FULLY FUNDED
BY 29 OR 30?
12:50:19PM >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS AN ACCOUNTING MECHANISM THAT
HELPS TO PUSH THAT NEED BACK, BUT OUR FINAL INVOICE WOULD BE
IN LATE 2029.
12:50:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHY I WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION
WITH MR. ROGERO IN TWO WEEKS.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT THIS -- WE PUT IT ON OUR COUNCIL AGENDA IN
TWO WEEKS, AND HE WILL BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO
THAT.
NOW, WORST-CASE SCENARIO, WE COULD STILL USE THE CIT BOND
FUNDS AND ONLY DID FOR FOUR MORE MILLION.
12:50:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TENTATIVELY THAT SEEMS TO BE FEASIBLE IF
-- OUR EMERGENCY -- MAYBE THERE IS A BETTER SOLUTION BUT WE
STILL HAVE AN EMERGENCY -- 4.7 TO BRIDGE US IF WE HAD TO.
12:51:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, AGAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY AS HARD AS
WE CAN TO USE THE 4.7 MILLION TO OFFSET BONDING BEFORE IT
HAPPENS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS ARE TELLING US.
THEY ARE TELLING US WE DON'T WANT TO BOND.
12:51:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS ALREADY BONDED MONEY?

12:51:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
ALREADY THERE.
SITTING.
MOVING IT FROM BRIDGES AND THAT COULD PAY OFF SO WE DON'T
HAVE TO BOND FOR THE WEST RIVERWALK.
12:51:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE GOT 8 MILLION -- ENOUGH
FUNDS FOR $8 MILLION.
IF FUNDING AND REVENUE STREAMS COME IN AS ANTICIPATED, WE
SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IN THAT CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AN
ADDITIONAL 4 MILLION, MAYBE MORE, AND IF WE DON'T GET THE
MAYBE MORE, WE COULD USE THE 4.7.
BUT IF WE DO GET MORE THAN THAT USE THAT 4.7 OFFSET OTHERS.
SO WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FROM THIS BOARD TODAY TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH THAT?
12:52:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I KNOW THERE IS A
DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH.
MR. MIRANDA --
12:52:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT WOULD BE THE NEED -- THE ANSWER YOU
NEED FROM THIS BOARD TODAY TO DO THAT.
12:52:17PM >>COURTNEY ORR:
I WOULD SUGGEST THE APPROVAL OF THE 8
MILLION WITH STAFF HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE
BUDGETS FOR FUTURE FISCAL YEARS TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE
WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS.
12:52:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LIKE THAT.
THANK YOU.

12:52:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FIRST OF ALL,
THE COST OF THE PROJECT AND YOU SAID SO MUCH, IS THAT
FIGURED THE COST OF INCREASE OF REVENUE OR COST OF MATERIALS
BETWEEN NOW AND 2029?
12:52:45PM >> YES.
12:52:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU INCLUDED THAT FOUR, FIVE, SIX PERCENT
MORE THAN?
12:52:50PM >> YES.
12:52:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU ARE ON TARGET OR YOU THINK YOU ARE.
12:52:53PM >> WE THINK WE ARE.
12:52:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU ON THE WAY YOU
ENTER WITH THREE LANES.
I'LL TELL YOU WHY. WHEN YOU COME OFF OF ASHLEY NOW, ONLY
ONE LANE AFTER THE BRIDGE.
BECOMES A SPLIT TO TAMPA STREET AND SPLIT STRAIGHT TO
ASHLEY.
YOU HAVE THREE LANES.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE PEOPLE GET USE, TURN LEFT, YOU GET IN THE LEFT LANE.
GO RIGHT, YOU GET IN THE RIGHT LANE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO STRAIGHT, YOU STAY IN THE STRAIGHT
LANE.
IF WE ONLY HAVE TWO LANES, YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT
REALIZING, THEY'LL GO LEFT, GO RIGHT, YOU'LL CAUSE, I

BELIEVE AND I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, MORE ACCIDENTS THAN
IF YOU HAD THREE LANES.
IT'S NOT ABOUT SPEEDING.
YOU CAN SPEED IN ONE LANE AS FAST AS YOU CAN GO IN THREE
LANES, JUST YOU HAVE MORE CARS.
I LOOK AT IT IN PRINCIPLE AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER AT ALL,
BUT WHEN YOU DESIGN SOMETHING THAT'S COMING IN AND YOU HAVE
A LOT OF STREETS, YOU CAN GO LEFT, GO RIGHT, AND THAT WILL
BE A PROBLEM IF YOU HAVE TWO LANES.
THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU.
IN MY MIND.
12:53:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK WANTED TO SPEAK.
12:54:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO BOARD MEMBER
CARLSON'S REMARK ABOUT HOW THIS HAPPENED, HOW THIS GOT SO
EXPENSIVE SO QUICKLY.
IT CAME TO US -- BECAUSE I DID THE RESEARCH.
I COULDN'T FIND THE PAPERWORK AT HAND RIGHT-OF-WAY.
BASICALLY VIK CAME TO US IN AUGUST OF '24 ASKING US TO
ACCEPT THIS GRANT.
IT WAS EITHER AUGUST.
IT WAS SOMETIME IN THE SUMMER.
BY THAT TIME, THEY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE 22 MILLION, BUT
THEY DIDN'T TELL US.

THEY JUST SAID, OH, IT'S GOING TO BE AN $11 MILLION PROJECT.
I ASKED HIM, WHAT HAPPENED?
HE SAID, OH, WE JUST DIDN'T SHARE IT AT THE TIME.
THEN MIRACULOUSLY AFTER WE APPROVED IT IN AUGUST, LIKE IN
JANUARY, THEY WERE LIKE, OH, NO, IT WILL BE 22.
NOTHING HAPPENS THAT QUICKLY IN THE CITY.
THEY HAVE KNOWN THIS WOULD BE A MORE EXPENSIVE PROJECT.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.
IF WE WANT TO GET THE 5.3 MILLION, I PERSONALLY, I WOULD NOT
APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
I WOULDN'T APPROVE MOVING MONEY.
IF THE DOWNTOWN CRA WANTS TO USE ITS MONEY TO DO THAT,
THAT'S FINE.
I THINK THIS IS TOO MUCH MONEY FOR WHAT THE PROJECT WAS, 11
MILLION WAS FINE WITH ME.
I THINK 22 IS TOO MUCH.
BUT, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SETTLE ON IF THIS IS WHAT THE
COMMUNITY WANTS TO SPEND MONEY ON, I'M FINE WITH IT, BUT HAS
TO COME FROM THE CRA.
I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT TAKES MONEY AWAY FROM THE
GENERAL FUND BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAID, STORMWATER, PEOPLE'S
HOUSES ARE FLOODING.
WE HAVE STREET ISSUES.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO ADAMANT THAT I THINK THIS 4.7 MILLION
SHOULDN'T GO TO THIS PROJECT, BUT SIMPLY THE OLD MONEY

THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE, IT SHOULD REALLY GO TOWARD PAYING
OFF SOME DEBT SO WE CAN USE $4.7 MILLION TO DO EXACTLY WHAT
YOU TALKED ABOUT.
I JUST TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS
THAT AGAIN WE WERE TOLD ONLY GOING TO BE 11 MILLION.
THREE MONTHS LATER, OH, WHOOPS, IT'S DOUBLE THAT.
12:55:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BEFORE COUNCILMAN CARLSON GOES, IF I
MAY, WE HAVE AGAIN, GOING OFF 1:15 FOLKS FOR THE OTHER
PROJECT IT WILL TAKE TIME.
IF WE CONTINUE, I THINK WE KNOW WHERE WE'LL GO AS A BOARD.
I WANT TO URGE PEOPLE TO BRING IT IN FOR A LANDING.
I THINK WE KNOW WHERE WE'LL GO.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:56:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BRANDON, I HOPE YOU CAN HELP US WITH
TRANSPARENCY.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT THESE KIND OF ISSUES WILL CHANGE AS WE GO
FORWARD.
I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE BRANDING STUFF, TAMPA MOVES.
ESPECIALLY LIKE ON STORMWATER WHERE WE THOUGHT WE HAD A PLAN
AND DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN AND ALL THAT.
ANYWAY, THE OTHER THING, IF WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OR IF WE
KEEP IT THE SAME, IF THERE IS AN OFFSET, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
CIT BOND FUNDS, IF WE CREATE A RESOLUTION, I THINK THERE HAS
TO BE A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT SAYS WHERE THE CITY AGREES WITH

THE CRA, IF WE PUT THE MONEY IN, THEY'LL USE THE OFFSET
SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE SPECIFY WHERE IT IS.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT IS GOING.
WE CAN DEBATE WHERE WE THINK IT'S GOING.
MIGHT THINK IT GOES TO DIFFERENT PLACES.
BUT I WANT THAT GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL GO SPECIFICALLY
SOMEWHERE.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS NOT CREATE A SLUSH FUND TO WORK ON A
PET PROJECT SOMEWHERE.
THE OTHER THING, I WONDER IF CLIFF IS ON THE PHONE AND CAN
TELL US, IS THIS CRA BOARD LEGALLY ABLE TO COMMIT UP TO 2030
FUNDS?
12:57:29PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
IF YOU ARE ASKING ME ABOUT FOR A FUTURE
BUDGET, WHEN YOU SAY UP TO 2030, HOW DO YOU MEAN TO COMMIT?
IN WHAT WAY?
12:57:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LET'S SAY WE COMMITTED TO 16 MILLION OVER
FIVE YEARS WITH DIFFERENT PAYMENTS OVER EVERY FIVE YEARS.
THE QUESTION, IS IT GOES BEYOND OUR TERM, SO ARE WE ALLOWED
TO DO THAT OR NOT?
12:57:55PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
THE ANSWER IS MAYBE, WHICH I KNOW IS A
GREAT LAWYER ANSWER.
THE REASON WHY IT IS A MAYBE IS BECAUSE IT'S MORE TO ME
ABOUT WHETHER THE PROJECT ITSELF IS FUNDABLE WITH CRA FUNDS.
THERE ARE CRAs THAT USE THEIR TIF MONEY BASED ON A
COMMITMENT THAT THE PROJECT ITSELF WILL GENERATE THE TIF

THAT'S GOING TO BE REBATED BACK TO IT OVER TIME AND THEY
COMMIT FOR YEARS OUT BUT THOSE YEARS ARE LIMITED TO A
SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF MONEY.
IF THE TIF DOESN'T GENERATE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, ALL
THEY GET IS WHAT THEY GENERATE BASED ON WHATEVER PERCENTAGE
IS AGREED TO.
I WOULD NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
THE IDEA THAT YOU COULDN'T COMMIT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF
TIME IS NOT AN ISSUE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WOULD BE THE CASE IF
YOU WERE ABLE TO, WHICH NOW IT IS A MARKET ISSUE, ISSUE TIF
BONDS.
TIF BONDS GO OUT YEARS IN ADVANCE OF WHEN A PROJECT IS
COMMITTED TO.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT JUST THE BOND MARKET SINCE THE STRAND
CASE IN 2008 HAS NOT BEEN THERE.
THE IDEA OF COMMITTING FUNDS GOING FORWARD IS NOT THE ISSUE.
THE FIRST ISSUE IS FUNDABILITY OF THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.
THE SECOND ISSUE IS WILL THE TIF BE THERE?
GETTING IT FROM THE PROJECT, GETTING FROM OTHER PROJECTS?
HAVE IT IN THE RESERVE ACCOUNT, WHERE IS IT COMING FROM?
12:59:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE, QUICKLY?
12:59:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOTION TO APPROVE FOR THE CAC
RECOMMENDATION AS WELL THE CRA GRANT REQUEST OF $8 MILLION.
12:59:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ACTUALLY, LET'S MOVE THIS, AND I'LL MAKE

ANOTHER MOTION, THAT WAY IT IS CLEANER.
12:59:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
NO DISCUSSION IT WOULD APPEAR.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:59:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CRA
STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CFO AND ANYONE ELSE THEY NEED TO FIND
WAYS THAT WE COULD FUND THIS OVER THE NEXT EXTRA YEAR, FOR
THE EXTRA 8.65 -- OKAY.
LET ME START AGAIN.
I'M GOING TO ASK CRA STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CFO AND HIS
STAFF TO FIND WAYS TO PROGRAM THE REMAINING 8.65 MILLION
WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CRA BUDGET AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE
OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO SIX YEARS.
1:00:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ANY DISCUSSION ON IT?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
THANK YOU, BOARD.
1:00:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE REWORX HOUSING.

NEVER MIND, THAT'S WHAT IS NEXT, THE VETERANS AND
WHEELCHAIR.
1:00:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
IF I MAY, JUST TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF, JUST 30 SECONDS, ON
ITEM NUMBER 5, I KNOW WE ALREADY DEALT WITH THAT FOR
LIEUTENANT BALDOMERO LOPEZ.
WE'RE PUSHING THAT BECAUSE SEPTEMBER 15 WILL BE 70 YEARS
AFTER HIS DEATH, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH JUDGE EJ SALCINES
WHO IS THE GREATEST CHAMPION OF LIEUTENANT LOPEZ OUT THERE.
FOR NUMBER 7, IF I MAY MOVE THE GAVEL SYMBOLICALLY TO BOARD
MEMBER HURTAK, AND COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS THIS.
A REQUEST WAS MADE TO HAVE A REPORT BACK TO US IN JANUARY OF
2026.
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE TALKED TO COMMANDER BUTTS OVER AT
AMERICAN LEGION POST 167, I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS.
I WOULD REQUEST THAT SHE COME AS WELL TO BRIEF US WITH HER
THOUGHTS ON THIS.
THE MOTION IS TO HAVE THIS RETURN TO US IN JANUARY OF 2026.
1:01:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
VICE-CHAIR VIERA MOTIONED, SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
I DID WANT TO SAY THERE IS ANOTHER VETERANS HOUSING PROJECT
THAT I'M GOING TO BE TOURING WITH CRA STAFF.
IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED, I KNOW WE CAN'T TOUR TOGETHER, BUT
I CAN SHARE WHAT I LEARNED AND/OR ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GO
SEE IT YOURSELVES.

MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
1:02:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, BOARD.
THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
IF I MAY, WE'RE MOVING ON TO NUMBER 9, THANK YOU TO STAFF
FOR THAT.
IT WOULD APPEAR, MR. McCRAY, WE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING
FORWARD WITH DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT AT WATER WORKS
PARK, CORRECT?
1:02:41PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THAT IS CORRECT.
1:02:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT IS THE TIMELINE?
1:02:44PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE AS OF YET.
WE RECENTLY RECEIVED THE ESTIMATE FROM THE VENDOR FOR THE
COST OF THE EQUIPMENT AND INSTALLATION.
CAME IN A LITTLE OVER $135,000.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AND APPRECIATE
THEM FACILITATING THAT TO GET THE WORK DONE.
1:03:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ROUGHLY WHAT DO YOU THINK?
IF I MOTION FOR THIS TO COME BACK, SIX MONTHS?
1:03:08PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
SIX MONTHS.
1:03:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WITH REGARDS TO CURTIS HIXON, YOU ARE WAITING
FOR THE EXPANSION FROM THE MUSEUM OF ART, ROUGHLY HOW LONG
DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD TAKE?

1:03:21PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON WATER WORKS AT THIS
PRESENT TIME AND THEN A FEW LAYERS OF DYNAMICS RELATED TO
THE MUSEUM OF ART AND WORK BEING DONE TO RELOCATE THAT
EQUIPMENT.
WE'D HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH PARKS AND
RECREATION.
1:03:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THESE ARE TWO CENTRALLY LOCATED PARKS AND NO
DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT THERE I THINK IS
SYMBOLICALLY JUST AWFUL.
IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO HAVE THIS RETURN TO US BOTH
FOR WATER WORKS AS WELL AS CURTIS HIXON.
I'M NOT EXPECTING THERE TO BE A PLAN OF ACTION OR ANYTHING
OF THAT NATURE.
UPDATE FOR POTENTIAL PLAN OF ACTION IN SIX MONTHS IN
DECEMBER OF 2025.
1:04:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM VICE-CHAIR VIERA.
SECONDED FROM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
1:04:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. McCRAY AND ALL OF STAFF.
NEXT IS THE FINAL ITEM NUMBER 10.
1:04:28PM >> ONE MORE AFTER THAT.
1:04:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
11.
1:04:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR US.

HONESTLY, I THINK 10, I THINK IT COULD BE PRETTY SHORT AND
SWEET HOPEFULLY.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TALK A LOT ABOUT THIS.
1:04:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBERS, IT'S ON US.
WE'RE ALL ELECTED.
WE FOUGHT FOR OUR SEATS HERE.
ALWAYS BELIEVE IN GIVING PEOPLE FULL TIME.
WE ARE AT 1:05.
LET'S MAKE A DECISION.
IF WE GO FORWARD WITH IT, GO FORWARD AND TRY TO END BY 1:30.
EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT?
NO ISSUES.
NUMBER 10.
1:05:11PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
I'LL CALL UPON B. PARKS TO INTRODUCE THE
APPLICATION.
1:05:18PM >>BELIX PARKS:
GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
B. PARKS, CRA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT URBAN REWORX WHICH THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR
A DEVELOPER SUBSIDY IN THE AMOUNT OF 5 MILLION FOR THEIR
PROJECT, WHICH IS FOR AFFORDABLE ATTAINABLE HOUSING FOR 80%
AND BELOW.
I'M GOING TO HAVE THEM ACTUALLY COME QUICKLY FOR THE
PRESENTATION THAT'S UP.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE PRESENTATION.
1:06:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR YOUR

PRESENTATION?
1:06:05PM >> I PREPARED FOR 15 MINUTES.
I CAN DO MY BEST TO LAND THE AIRCRAFT IN 10 TO 12.
1:06:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TEN MINUTES.
IF YOU NEED MORE, WE'LL CONSIDER IT.
DON'T PRESSURE YOURSELF TOO MUCH.
JUST A LITTLE BIT.
1:06:27PM >> I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS THAD BEREDAY.
I'M A 25-YEAR RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
IT'S BEEN A LONG AND EMOTIONAL AFTERNOON.
I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR THE LEADERSHIP AND ENDURANCE OF THE CRA
BOARD FOR HANGING WITH US ON THIS FATEFUL DAY.
WE HAVE A DRAGON OF OUR OWN ON OUR TEAM.
IT WAS NOT THAT LONG AGO THAT CHAIRWOMAN HENDERSON TOLD US
THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE THE CHAMPION FOR ITSELF.
OUR JOB AS THE DEVELOPER IS TO BE ITS ADVOCATE.
WE'LL TRY OUR BEST TO DO THAT IN THE SHORT TIME FRAME TODAY.
YOUR LEADERSHIP AS SERVANT LEADERS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAS
INSPIRED ME.
AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY, I SPENT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS
IN LAY MINISTRY SERVICE, AND THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS
WORKING ON THIS PROJECT TO BRING US TO THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AND FOR YOUR
HANGING WITH US.

COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, CHAIRWOMAN HENDERSON ALSO SAID, I'M
SURE WE ALL HEARD THIS, THAT IT WAS THE ROLE OF THE CRA
BOARD AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS
AND TO MAKE THE CALLS ABOUT HOW WE DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
THIS COMMUNITY.
EVERYONE ELSE IS ADVISORY.
WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CRA STAFF AND
APPRECIATE THEIR LEADERSHIP AND THEIR GUIDANCE OVER THE LAST
TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO GET TO US THIS JUNCTURE.
WE'VE HAD WONDERFUL SUPPORT FROM CITY OF TAMPA STAFF AS
WELL.
APPRECIATE THEIR LEADERSHIP.
APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP OF THE BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN DEEPLY ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE ENGAGED WITH COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATIONS, DOZENS AND DOZENS OF MEETINGS, AND WE'VE
ENGAGED ON THE STREET LEVEL ONE PERSON AT A TIME WORKING ON
THE GRASSROOTS TO DELIVER THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT TO
YOU.
THE QUESTION THAT I'VE BEEN SEEKING TO ANSWER IN MY JOURNEY
IS CAN A SMALL FAMILY-RUN DEVELOPER LIKE URBAN REWORX, CAN
WE DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOO?
CAN WE BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION?
I HOPE WE CAN HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TODAY BECAUSE MY

BELIEF IS THAT WE NOT ONLY NEED TO WIN AND SUCCEED WITH THE
BIG BOYS AT THE HIGH END AND ALSO AT THE LOW END WITH
INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS ACTIVATING THEIR ADUs AND DOING WHAT
THEY CAN TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES, PREVENT GENTRIFICATION,
PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THEIR GENERATIONAL WEALTH WITH THE
HOMES THAT THEY OWN, BUT CAN SMALL, MEDIUM SIZED DEVELOPERS
LIKE URBAN REWORX CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOLUTION BY DELIVERING
URBAN INFILL PROJECTS IN CRITICAL NODAL AREAS LIKE WE'RE
GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.
OUR CORE VALUES -- BUILD LOCAL, BUILD COMMUNITY, AND BUILD
VALUE ARE WHAT WE REALLY MEAN.
COMMUNITY IS AT THE HEART AND SOUL OF EVERYTHING WE DO.
THIS TRANSACTION, THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR INVESTMENT IN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS REALLY ABOUT NEBRASKA AVENUE.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOPE.
CAN WE ENVISION TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY A HOME FOR A
TRANSFORMED NEBRASKA AVENUE?
CAN THIS BE NOT ONLY A CRITICAL TRANSPORTATION THOROUGHFARE
THAT WE JUST DRIVE THROUGH BUT A PLACE THAT BRINGS COMMUNITY
TOGETHER AND DELIVERS AFFORDABLE HOUSING SOLUTIONS AND
ECONOMIC GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY FOR NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY CARE ABOUT.
I INVITE YOU TO IMAGINE WITH ME A HOPEFUL VISION FOR A
TRANSFORMED NEBRASKA AVENUE.
THIS PROJECT, THIS SMALL SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT HAS

THE POTENTIAL TO BE AN INCREDIBLE CATALYST FOR COMMUNITY AND
A CATALYST FOR COMMUNITY GROWTH.
WE ARE A SMALL BUSINESS OURSELF BUT LINK TO EXPAND
TRANSPORTATION SOLUTIONS, FOLLOW-ON INVESTMENT AND
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS WILL BE THE FIRST DOMINO TO FALL IN BEAUTIFYING AND
TRANSFORMING NEBRASKA AVENUE WE WOULD INVITE YOU TO THINK
ABOUT THIS PROJECT MUCH MORE THAN THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE
BUILDING ITSELF AND THE 20 AFFORDABLE HOMES WE'LL DELIVER
FOR KEY WORKERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ACTIVATE THE ENTIRETY OF NEBRASKA AVENUE OR AT LEAST THE
SMALL STRETCH WE CAN INFLUENCE.
WE ARE IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA, THE
LARGEST CRA IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
BUT OUR SMALL SITE HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR LARGE
TRANSFORMATION.
THIS IS OUR CURRENT SITE AND THE CURRENT STATE TODAY.
A DILAPIDATED, BLIGHTED, UNDERUTILIZED, SELF-SERVICE
COMMERCIAL CAR WASH THAT HAS EXISTED LARGELY UNCHANGED SINCE
IT WAS BUILT IN 1965.
IT WAS OWNED IN THREE GENERATIONS OF THE SUAREZ FAMILY AND
WE HONOR AND RESPECT THEIR LEGACY.
BUT WE KNOW THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOMES IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
WHAT WE'RE FACING IS WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES HERE

TODAY.
WE ALSO KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE SITTING AS THE CRA BOARD TODAY
THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
THAT IS THE FINANCING METHOD THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US
AS A SMALL DEVELOPER TO SEEK AND EXECUTE A PROJECT LIKE
THIS.
THIS PARCEL DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE VERY MUCH TO THE TAX BASE
SOLUTION OF OUR CITY TODAY OR THE CRA.
EVEN IF WE THINK ABOUT OVER 50 YEARS, REMEMBER THAT
LONG-TERM TIME FRAME IT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT, YOU SEE THE
CONTRIBUTION THAT WE WOULD MAKE INFLATION ADJUSTED ABOUT
$770,000 OVER 50 YEARS.
NO JOBS.
THIS IS MR. CC.
WE INHERITED HIM AS OUR ONE EMPLOYEE.
20 YEAR UNHOUSED NEIGHBOR IN OUR COMMUNITY.
STILL WORKS FOR US TODAY.
YOU ALL KNOW MIGUEL.
HE AND I LITERALLY WORK AT THE CAR WASH COLLECTING QUARTERS
EVERY DAY.
IT'S AN UNDERUTILIZED SITE WITH VERY LITTLE JOB CREATION AND
VERY LITTLE COMMUNITY OR ECONOMIC IMPACT.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN YOUR COMMUNITY,
IN SMALL PARCELS LIKE THIS AND SMALL DEVELOPERS LIKE US, YOU
DON'T GET ANY RATE OF RETURN.

YOU GET NOTHING OR MINIMAL.
IMAGINE INSTEAD WITH ME THE FUTURE OF A TRANSFORMED NEBRASKA
AVENUE.
IMAGINE WHAT WE CAN DO BY MAKING WHAT WILL BE THE MOST
IMPRESSIVE AND IMPORTANT INVESTMENT IN THIS STRETCH OF
NEBRASKA AVENUE IN DECADES.
WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO TURN THE CORNER TODAY, RIGHT NOW, WITH
THIS DECISION.
AND FROM A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING STANDPOINT, IT'S A GREAT
DECISION.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT TIF OR CRA FINANCING WAS DESIGNED AND
INTENDED TO DO.
OUR UNDERUTILIZED SITE WITH VERY MINIMAL ECONOMIC IMPACT
OVER THE 50-YEAR TIME FRAME THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT
WILL NOW CONTRIBUTE ALMOST $7.7 MILLION OVER THAT SAME TIME
PERIOD.
AND THAT INCREMENTAL FINANCING BETWEEN THE 700,000 AND THE
7.7 IS A $6.9 MILLION BENEFIT PAID STRAIGHT BACK INTO THE
COMMUNITY.
I UNDERSTAND MOST OF THOSE DOLLARS GO BACK INTO THE EAST
TAMPA CRA, CREATING THE POTENTIAL AND BASIS FOR FUTURE
INVESTMENT SO THAT THIS BOARD AND FUTURE BOARDS CAN REINVEST
IN DOING OTHER FANTASTIC PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD.
THAT ALMOST $7 MILLION INCREMENTAL TAX BENEFIT TO COMMUNITY
AND THE EAST TAMPA CRA, THAT ONE BENEFIT ALONE REPRESENTS

ALMOST 138% RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT DOLLARS.
IT GETS EVEN BETTER.
NOT ONLY THE TAX BENEFIT, THE 20 AFFORDABLE HOMES, SERVICING
80% AMI AND BELOW A CRITICAL UNDERSERVED TIER IN OUR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
IT GETS EVEN BETTER.
I HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY OUR RESIDENTS WILL
SAVE OVER THE 50-YEAR LIFE SPAN OF THIS PROJECT.
THEY WILL SAVE $16.6 MILLION IN RENTAL SAVINGS.
THAT'S THE RECIPIENTS, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE WILL SAVE
OVER THE 50-YEAR LIFE SPAN OF THE PROJECT.
COMBINE THAT WITH THE INCREMENTAL TAX COMING BACK TO THE
CRA, $23.5 MILLION TOTAL COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
A 469% RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT DOLLARS TODAY.
I HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE JOBS THAT COME FROM OUR
$6.8 MILLION IN LOCAL CONSTRUCTION SPENDING.
NOT TO MENTION, OF COURSE, THE SUPPORT FOR ESSENTIAL
WORKERS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
$6.8 MILLION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION SPENDING WILL YIELD 68
DIRECT CONSTRUCTION JOBS.
WE WILL HAVE A COMMITMENT TO ACTIVATING MINORITY AND WOMEN
BUSINESS ENTERPRISES --
1:16:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, YOU'RE GOOD
TO GO.

HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU NEED?
LET'S DO FIVE MINUTES AND THAT'S IT.
1:16:12PM >> 68 DIRECT CONSTRUCTION JOBS, 54 INDIRECT INDUCED JOBS.
THIS IN ITSELF IS A CATALYST FOR LOCAL AND ECONOMIC GROWTH.
LET ME MOVE INTO THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF.
THE VINCENTE YBOR HOUSE WILL BE A 20 UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING
MIXED USE PROJECT.
WE HAVE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE.
WE PUSHED THE STRUCTURE FORWARD TO GET THE CRITICAL
IMPORTANT STREET ACTIVATION THAT EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE ALONG
NEBRASKA AVENUE.
OUR REQUEST IS FOR A $5 MILLION SPECIAL PROJECTS GRANT IN
THE CONTEXT OF $9.4 MILLION DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, THIS WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT ON THIS
STRETCH OF NEBRASKA AVENUE, SO LONG NEGLECTED, FORGOTTEN AND
JUST DRIVEN THROUGH IN DECADES.
HERE IS THE ONLY MAP I'LL SHOW YOU OF THE SITE.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE LOCATED.
WE ARE LITERALLY THE LAST PARCEL LEFT INSIDE THE HISTORIC
BOUNDARY OF THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION HISTORIC DISTRICT,
WHICH IS INTERESTING.
I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE AT THIS CRITICAL NODE, THAT'S
NEBRASKA AVENUE ALONG THE FRONTAGE, EAST 21st AVENUE,
GATEWAY TO EAST TAMPA JUST TO THE NORTH OF US.

BECOMES FLORIBRASKA AS YOU CROSS NEBRASKA, BUT THIS NODE IS
A CRITICAL CORNER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND A CRITICAL BUT
SMALL PORTION OF THE OVERALL EAST TAMPA CRA.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE CONNECT TO A VITAL, ACTIVE, AND
FUNCTIONING TRANSPORTATION GROUP.
THANK YOU TO OUR FRIENDS AT HART.
WE LINK TO VIABLE WORKING TRANSPORTATION JUST 400 FEET AWAY
FROM BUS STOPS IN EITHER DIRECTION, AND WE'LL INVEST IN
ALTERNATIVE AND MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION AS WELL WHICH
HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THE TIME TO COME BACK TO.
WE ARE IN A VERY IMPORTANT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A VERY
IMPORTANT HISTORIC CONNECTION ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE
MOUNT SINAI AME CHURCH AND WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE INVESTING
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE WENT THROUGH AND OBTAINED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL AFTER FULL
PUBLIC HEARING AT THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
WE WORKED WITH OUR COMMUNITY, ORIGINALLY PROPOSING A
SLIGHTLY MORE INTENSE AND LARGER PROJECT WITH FOUR STORIES
AND 29 UNITS.
BUT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS THEY FELT THAT WAS
TOO INTENSE AGAINST THE 20 PARKING SPACES THAT WE COULD
DELIVER.
SO WE ELIMINATED ONE STORY AND HAVE THE PROJECT WE PRESENT
TO YOU TODAY, THREE STORIES, 20 UNITS AGAINST OUR 20 PARKING
SPACES.

BASED ON THE COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK, WE BELIEVE WE MET THE
CITY OF TAMPA'S REQUEST THAT WE MAXIMIZE DENSITY ON OUR
PARCEL.
DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE TIME TO GET INTO THIS TODAY, BUT I
WENT BACK AND REWATCHED THE JANUARY HEARING WHERE THIS BOARD
APPROVED THE SUBSIDY MATRIX.
AND THAT MATRIX WAS APPROVED AFTER CONSULTATION BETWEEN CRA
STAFF AND CITY OF TAMPA LEADERSHIP.
AND IT IS BASED ON VERY IMPORTANT ANALYSIS OF WHAT IT COSTS
TO BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS
EXPENSIVE.
YOU CAN SEE THE IMPORTANT BASIS ON WHICH THIS MATRIX WAS
PROPOSED AND APPROVED BY THIS BOARD IN JANUARY.
OUR REQUEST IS 100% IN LINE WITH THE FUNDING MATRIX AT
$250,000 PER UNIT AT 80% AMI.
OF COURSE, IF WE CAN GO DOWN BELOW, THEORETICALLY SHOULD BE
MORE FUNDING AVAILABLE, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT.
IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OUR PROJECT
FALLS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES, THIS IS THE VERY NEXT SLIDE
FROM THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
YOU CAN SEE THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS OFFERED AS WITHIN THE CRA
GUIDELINES, 20 RENTAL UNITS, HUNDRED PERCENT UNITS
AFFORDABLE AT 80% AMI.
AFFORDABILITY PERIOD 50 YEARS, THAT'S US.
MAYBE MATH ERA.

SHOULD BE THE $250,000 PER UNIT THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
THIS SLIDE IS ALSO IMPORTANT IN THE BOARD DELIBERATION.
VERY GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
REQUEST FOR 20% WIGGLE ROOM WAS ROUNDLY REJECTED.
THE BOARD AFFIRMED AND APPROVED ITS ABILITY AND JURISDICTION
TO MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS I MENTIONED EARLIER.
WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE BOARD SET THE EXPECTATIONS
FOR US IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN ACTING IN RELIANCE ON THAT FOR THE LAST SIX
MONTHS.
IN FACT, WE WERE WAITING AND WORKING WITH CRA STAFF FOR
PROBABLY AT LEAST SIX MONTHS BEFORE THAT.
AND IT'S BEEN A TWO AND A HALF YEAR JOURNEY AS I SAID TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT CAN WE DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TOO, AND HOW DO
WE DO IT.
LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT WHY THIS INVESTMENT MATTERS.
OBVIOUSLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT REQUIRES A
PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
WE HAVE ENDEAVORED TO BE COLLABORATIVE PARTNERS.
AND THIS IS VERY APPROPRIATE USE OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
YOUR $250,000 PER UNIT INVESTMENT WILL YIELD YOU $344,000 IN
INCREMENTAL RETURNS.
THIS IS 50 YEAR DEED RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
1:21:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS TO FINISH IT UP.
1:21:35PM >> THIS IS A CATALYST INVESTMENT AS I SAID THAT WILL SUPPORT

ESSENTIAL WORKERS, LINKS TO TRANSPORTATION AND IS AN URBAN
INFILL PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE THE RETURNS THAT WE MENTIONED HERE PREVIOUSLY.
THE INCREDIBLE RATES OF RETURN, 139% JUST ON THE TAXES.
469% ON TOTAL COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
THIS IS, AS YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE EAST TAMPA STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
BENEFITS LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH WE CARE ABOUT DEEPLY.
AND WE'RE SHOVEL READY.
THIS REQUEST FOR FULL FUNDING WILL ALLOW US TO GET THIS
PROJECT DONE NOW.
1:22:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
I'VE BEEN THERE WHEN YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY AND LIMITED
TIME, COURT, IT'S AWFUL.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR FRUSTRATION WITH THAT.
WE'LL GO THROUGH BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, CLENDENIN, MANISCALCO,
MIRANDA.
1:22:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M GOOD.
1:22:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS I
DID A RIDE-ALONG WITH TAMPA PD TUESDAY NIGHT AND ROAD WITH
OFFICER AARON AND CANNOT REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME.
HE WAS WONDERFUL.
WE ENDED UP RIGHT NEXT TO THE YELLOW BRICK CHURCH.

WE STOPPED IN THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS A TRAILER THEY HADN'T
SEEN BEFORE.
PUNCHED IN THE NUMBER TO SEE WHO IT WAS.
TURNS OUT IT WAS THE NEW OWNERS.
OH, DIDN'T KNOW THIS CHANGED OWNERSHIP.
ALBERT WHO CAME UP AND SPOKE ABOUT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
EARLIER, HE LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.
HE WAS ON THE FRONT PORCH.
STOPPED AND TALKED TO HIM.
YEAH, IT'S SOLD.
THE GUY IS HERE EVERY DAY WORKING ON CLEANING IT UP.
WOW, WE LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY AS CITY OF TAMPA.
I HAD MR. DRUMGO LOOK AT POSSIBLY PURCHASING THAT.
HAPPILY IT IS A LOCAL PERSON WHO HAS PURCHASED IT AND
ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON IT.
THIS CORNER AND FROM WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT STANDING ON THE
CORNER, HEY, NO LONGER ARE PEOPLE HANGING OUT IN FRONT OF
THAT CHURCH.
THAT WAS A HUGE ISSUE FOR A WHILE.
DRUG SELLING GOING ON THERE.
HE GAVE US THE FULL RUNDOWN OF EXACTLY WHAT HAD BEEN
HAPPENING ON THAT BLOCK.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, MIMI MARTINEZ EARLIER TODAY, I TEND
TO AGREE WITH HER.
I THINK THIS IS THE ONE CATALYST PROJECT THAT WILL START THE

OTHER PROJECTS.
BECAUSE OF THAT, I SUPPORT THIS.
I COULD SPEAK LONGER, BUT WE'RE ON A TIME LIMIT.
I DID WANT TO SAY I DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE TRANSFORMATIONAL
PROJECT FOR THIS PART OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE CHANGE.
THERE ARE FEWER PEOPLE ON STREET CORNERS.
THE DRUG DEALING IS NOT AS MUCH IN THAT AREA.
HOUSES ARE BEING FIXED UP ALONG THE STREET.
I DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE NEXT CATALYST PROJECT WE NEED TO
ENCOURAGE AND MAKE THIS COMMUNITY EVEN BRIGHTER.
1:24:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE THAT.
NEXT IS BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
MIRANDA.
IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THREE MINUTE TIME LIMITS?
1:24:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T DISAGREE THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT
FOR THE CORNER.
WHAT I DISAGREE WITH IS TAKING MONEY FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
FROM POOR PEOPLE AND SUBSIDIZING A DEVELOPER.
AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, WORST THING WE COULD DO FROM CRA
IS SUBSIDIZE A DEVELOPER.
YOU'RE BASICALLY ASKING, WITH YOUR FULL REQUEST, YOU'RE
ASKING US TO PAY FOR DAMN NEAR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
1:25:11PM >> CONSTRUCTION.

92% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST.
1:25:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAN, SIGN ME UP FOR THAT DEAL.
YOU TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY BEING DILAPIDATED, HOW LONG HAVE
YOU OWNED THE PROPERTY?
1:25:23PM >> PURCHASED IT IN NOVEMBER OF '23 AND MADE SUBSTANTIAL
IMPROVEMENTS.
1:25:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S YOUR PROPERTY.
AGAIN, SIGN ME UP FOR THAT DEAL.
ANYTIME THE CITY WANTS TO GIVE ME MONEY AND START A BUSINESS
FOR ME, I'M ON BOARD.
GIVE ME THE MONEY AND I'LL DO THIS ALL DAY LONG.
I'LL START ANOTHER CAREER.
THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT BILL CARLSON HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'RE ASKING TOO MUCH MONEY OF A POOR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE
EVERY DOLLAR YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS COMING FROM TAXPAYERS IN
EAST TAMPA.
IT'S COMING FROM TAXPAYERS IN EAST TAMPA.
NOT COMING FROM CHANNELSIDE.
COMING FROM TAXPAYERS IN EAST TAMPA.
IT'S JUST TOO MUCH MONEY.
THIS PROJECT, I LOOKED AT THIS, COST OF CONSTRUCTION IS WHAT
AROUND $300 A SQUARE FOOT PROBABLY FOR THE BUILDINGS, WHAT
YOU PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
1:26:08PM >> I THINK MORE LIKE JUST UNDER 200.
1:26:16PM >> COST OF ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION PLUS WHATEVER.

RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, BUILD A MULTISTORY, $300 A SQUARE FOOT.
AMORTIZE THAT OUT, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK OUT.
IF YOU WANTED TO COME IN WITH MORE MODEST, ALSO, WE'RE IN A
RENT CORRECTION PERIOD.
80%, THAT GAP BETWEEN WHAT MARKET AND 80% IS GETTING
NARROWER AND NARROWER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
GRANTED IN FIVE YEARS IT WILL CHANGE AND YOU'LL LOCK IN FOR
YOUR PERIOD OF TIME.
RIGHT NOW, THAT WEDGE, IF YOU WERE COMING IN AT 30% OR 50%
AMI, I MAY BE MORE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT.
80% AMI, THAT AMOUNT OF SUBSIDY FROM POOR PEOPLE IN EAST
TAMPA, THAT IS A NONSTARTER.
1:26:58PM >> WE'RE VERY OPEN TO DOING LOWER AMI.
50%, MAYBE 30%.
WE HAVE TWO ADA ACCESSIBLE UNITS WE'RE DESIGNING AT THE
GROUND LEVEL.
WE WOULD WELCOME THAT.
1:27:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD BE WILLING TO CONTINUE THIS TO
DISCUSS THAT AND COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL.
IT'S WAY TOO MUCH FOR TOO LITTLE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING MONEY FROM THE POOREST NEIGHBORHOOD IN
TAMPA.
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST BARELY GETTING BY ON THEIR
OWN OR GETTING SUBSIDIES THEMSELVES AND THESE TAXES AND
THESE HOUSES AND GIVING THAT TO A DEVELOPER IS TOO MUCH.

IT'S JUST WAY TOO MUCH.
1:27:36PM >> I HEAR YOU.
I THINK REASONABLE MINDS CAN DISAGREE ON THE PROPER METHODS
TO DELIVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE COMMUNITY.
NEW CONSTRUCTION AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT A SMALL SCALE IS
EXPENSIVE.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
IT COSTS ABOUT $300,000 A UNIT TO BUILD ANYTHING IN THIS
MARKET.
SO OUR REQUEST AT THE MATRIX LEVEL OF $250,000 PER UNIT IS
LESS THAN THAT.
1:28:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'RE ASKING THE POOR PEOPLE -- YOU'RE
ASKING POOR PEOPLE TO GIVE YOU $250,000 FOR A $300,000 UNIT.
ONLY OUT OF POCKET IS 50.
THAT'S JUST CRAZY.
HOW MUCH DID WE PAY PER UNIT FOR FUN LAND?
1:28:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S FOR MR. McCRAY.
1:28:20PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA
DIRECTOR.
ROUND ABOUT IT WAS $33,800 PER UNIT FOR THE FINANCING.
1:28:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT WHAT WE
PASSED.
I SPOKE HEAVILY AGAINST THAT, TOO.
WE REALLY EMPHASIZED THIS WAS A PIE IN THE SKY MAX AND
DIDN'T ANTICIPATE ANYBODY COMING IN REALLY UNLESS IT WAS

SOMETHING -- AGAIN, I THINK I TOLD YOU FIRST MEETING, I
WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO BE WITH YOU ON THIS IF YOU HAD SITE
CONTROL OVER THE ENTIRE BLOCK AND A LOT MORE RETAIL AND
REALLY TRANSFORMATIONAL.
I RAN OUT OF TIME.
YEAH, I THINK YOU SHOULD ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE AND COME BACK
WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL.
1:28:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:29:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MANY YEARS AGO, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS
UPPER MIDDLE CLASS.
WHEN YOU TURN LEFT 21st AND NEBRASKA, GARDEN THEATER
THERE.
THEN NORTH ON NEBRASKA AND YOU HAD HOMES THAT WERE REALLY
TWO STORY, BIG, BEAUTIFUL HOMES ON 25th AND NEBRASKA OR
26th.
24th AND NEBRASKA THROUGH THERE.
ONE WAS VALDES BEAUTY SALON PEOPLE, BEAUTY PARLORS AND A
BEAUTY SCHOOL TO TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO COMB HAIR AND MAKE
HAIR.
WOMEN, MEN.
AND THROUGH THE LIFE CYCLE OF DEATH, THEY DIED.
AND THEIR KIDS, THEY WANT TO LIVE THERE.
THEN RELIGIOUS PEOPLE CAME IN AND DID SOME WORK THERE, WAY
BACK IN THE '70s, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

NOW IT'S LIKE DESERTED IN A WAY.
USED TO BE A BEAUTIFUL AREA BEFORE LAKE AVENUE AND NEBRASKA.
THEN WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
ALL OF A SUDDEN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CAME BACK UP.
ANYTHING DOWN GOES UP.
LISTENING TO BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN, THERE IS A HAPPY MEDIUM SOMEWHERE AND I DON'T
KNOW WHERE IT IS AT.
I AGREE WITH BOTH OF THEM.
SOMEWHERE ALONG THESE TWO IS -- BUT I'M MORE INTO BUILDING
HOUSES FOR PEOPLE TO OWN BECAUSE THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO OWN
IF THEY RENT.
I LIKE TO PUT IT MORE INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO SELL FOR
THEM TO LIVE THAN TO RENT.
THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO OWN ANYTHING.
THEY'LL NEVER HAVE NOTHING IN THE BANK.
NEVER HAVE NOTHING THAT THEY CAN GIVE TO HEIRS AND MOVE
FORWARD.
I LIKE UPWARD MOBILITY.
I'M NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT BUT LIKE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BUY.
1:30:45PM >> WE'RE VERY OPEN TO THE HOME OWNERSHIP MODEL AS WELL.
WE ASKED CITY OF TAMPA LEADERSHIP AT THE STAFF LEVEL, THEY
ARE NO LONGER WITH THE CITY, WHETHER WE COULD BUILD A HOME
OWNERSHIP MODEL AND THEY ENCOURAGED US TO BUILD THE PRODUCT

THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TODAY.
WHEN THEY SUGGESTED BUILD 80% AMI, I HAD TO ASK WHAT IS AN
AMI.
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT CAN WE BE PART OF THE
SOLUTION AND HOW DO WE MAKE OUR CONTRIBUTION TO DELIVER
AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS TO THE COMMUNITY?
1:31:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
-- GIVE A CHANCE TO OWN SOMETHING SO
UPWARD MOBILITY.
SURE IT WILL BE NICE AND NEW.
I AGREE WITH THAT.
IT IS GORGEOUS.
1:31:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
1:31:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST QUICKLY, I AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER
MIRANDA ON THE OWNERSHIP THING.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN OUR PLANNING RETREAT A YEAR OR TWO
AGO.
I THINK WE NEED TO COME BACK TO IT AND FIGURE OUT
STRATEGICALLY WHAT AMOUNT OF THE HOUSING BUDGET WILL
ALLOCATE TOWARD EACH ONE.
I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A BIGGER PERCENTAGE INTO HOME
OWNERSHIP.
THAT I THINK IS PART OF THE STRATEGY FOR THE FUTURE.
ON FUN LAND, I ASKED MS. KOPESKY TO HELP US GO THROUGH THE
NUMBERS AND REALLY ANALYZE WHETHER THAT $35,000 NUMBER IS

RIGHT.
IT SOUNDS LOW TO ME COMPARED TO OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
HAPPENING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACCURATE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS OF USING DIFFERENT DENOMINATORS TO
GET DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
THAD, MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'VE KNOWN HIM A LONG TIME, HE'S NOT
A DEVELOPER.
HE'S SOMEONE WHO SPENT THE LAST FEW YEARS VOLUNTEERING IN
THE COMMUNITY, DONATING TO THE COMMUNITY, WORKING WITH
GROUPS LIKE PORTICO DOWNTOWN THAT HELPS HOMELESS PEOPLE,
LOVE, INC., THAT'S RESCUED FRIENDS OF MINE OFF THE STREETS.
PEOPLE I KNOW OFF THE STREETS.
AND MANY OTHER SERVICES.
AS I UNDERSTAND, HE SUDDENLY PIVOTING TO THIS INDUSTRY, HE
SAW PEOPLE ON THE STREETS AND HE SAID I MIGHT HAVE THE
RESOURCES TO PULL THIS TOGETHER.
HE USED HIS LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND ACCESS TO FUNDING TO TRY
TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, NO TO THE MAKE MONEY.
BEEN WORKING ON THIS TWO YEARS, YOU'LL PROBABLY LOSE MONEY
ON IT.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE CITY IN THE PAST OR THE CRA IN THE PAST
IS BIG CHUNKS OF MONEY WENT TO DEVELOPERS.
DEVELOPERS WOULD COME IN AND SAY NEED 9 MILLION, NEED 12
MILLION AND NOTHING WAS ATTACHED TO IT OR BILL GATES WANTS A

HUNDRED MILLION.
SO THAT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT I'M AGAINST.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE CHART, AND STAFF PUT THAT TOGETHER
WITH A LOT OF RESEARCH.
BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE CHART WAS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE
SUBSIDIZING A DEVELOPER.
WE'RE BUYING CERTAIN RENT AMOUNT FOR CERTAIN AMI FOR 50
YEARS.
THE MONEY THAT'S GOING IN HERE IS NOT SUBSIDIZING YOUR
CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S SUBSIDIZING THE RENT OVER 50 YEARS BECAUSE THE REAL
COST OF IT IS -- THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION IS SMALL.
THE COST OF MAINTENANCE, YOUR MARGINAL COSTS ARE GOING TO BE
HIGH OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS.
YOU HAVE TO PROJECT NOW WHAT THE COSTS IN THE FUTURE WOULD
BE AND THIS WILL HELP US SUBSIDIZE.
WAS IT 5500 PER UNIT PER YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
IT'S CHEAP TO GET SOMEBODY IN THAT KIND OF PROPERTY.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PROVE THAT WE CAN HELP SMALL
DEVELOPERS, WHY DO THE BIG DEVELOPERS GET EVERYTHING?
WHY DO THEY ALL GET ALL THE MONEY AND NO STRINGS ATTACHED?
THIS IS BUYING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS.
THE LAST QUESTION I'LL ASK, YOU SAID OFF-LINE AND PUBLICLY
YOU COULD DO 30, 50 PERCENT AMI.
CAN WE AT LEAST PUT A CONTINGENCY IN THIS THAT IF YOU CAN

GET FUNDING FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR SOME OTHER GROUP
THAT YOU WILL TRY TO PUT IN A FEW 50% OR 30% AMI?
1:34:44PM >> I'LL CONTINUE MY EFFORTS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE
RIGHT WAY, SO ABSOLUTELY, WE WILL WORK TO OBTAIN THE
VOUCHERS NEEDED TO DELIVER THE BEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PRODUCT THAT WE CAN MUSTER.
NO PROBLEM.
1:34:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
I'LL GIVE MY THOUGHTS AFTERWARDS.
1:35:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SAY.
I RESPECT BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN'S POSITION BECAUSE
GENERALLY WE TEND TO AGREE ON THESE THINGS.
I MAY HAVE AGREED WITH YOU IF I HADN'T STOOD IN THAT SPOT
AND WATCHED AND DRIVEN -- I MEAN, IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE
TUESDAY NIGHT THAT THAT IS WHERE WE WERE.
I DIDN'T EVEN ASK.
THAT'S JUST WHERE WE ENDED UP.
AND TO SEE HOW CLOSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY IS TO MOVING
FORWARD.
SO I WOULDN'T SAY THAT I WOULD SUPPORT $250,000 FOR EVERY
PROJECT THAT COMES FORWARD, BUT I THINK AS WAS MENTIONED
EARLIER, THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS THAT ARE SORT OF WAITING
IN THAT AREA, AND THEY JUST AREN'T GOING.
SO I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE ONE THAT MOVES IT.
I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT TONIGHT -- OR THIS AFTERNOON, MY

LAST THING I'LL DO TODAY IS A MOTION TO HELP TEAR DOWN SOME
OF THE STUFF IN BORRELL PARK TO GET THAT MORE OPEN BECAUSE
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAW.
THERE IS A BRAND-NEW HEAD START FACILITY ABOUT TO OPEN UP
RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM BORRELL PARK.
CHANGES ARE COMING.
THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT THIS.
I DON'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT IT FOR EVERYTHING.
NOW KNOWING THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT 30 TO 50% AMI POSSIBLY, IT
JUST ENCOURAGES -- YEAH, INTENSIFIES MY SUPPORT IF WE COULD
BRING IT DOWN FURTHER.
1:36:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO
SPEAK SECOND ROUND?
AND THEN CLENDENIN.
1:36:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
REAL QUICK.
THE WORD CATALYST AND COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK JUST MENTIONED
IT, THIS COULD BE THE PROJECT THAT COULD KICK OFF THINGS IN
THE FUTURE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT WHAT USED TO BE THERE.
I KNOW A GENTLEMAN WHO IS 101 YEARS OLD.
HIS LITTLE BROTHER WHO PASSED AWAY TOLD ME, IN THE 1930s,
WE WOULD SIT ON NEBRASKA AVENUE ON THE CURBS TO LOOK AT ALL
THE NICE CARS DRIVING BY OR TO SEE ALL THE BEAUTIFUL HOUSES.
SOME OF THOSE HOUSES ARE STILL THERE.

NEBRASKA AVENUE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID IT, UPPER MIDDLE
CLASS.
THE RICH PEOPLE WERE THERE.
WHY THEY CALL PLACES THE HEIGHTS BECAUSE IT WAS A NICE PLACE
TO LIVE, TAMPA HEIGHTS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
THERE IS A WHOLE STORY BEHIND THAT THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE KNOWN MY WHOLE LIFE, NEBRASKA AVENUE NOT AS A JOKE,
BUT THE PROSTITUTION.
THERE'S DRUG DEALING.
THERE'S CRIME.
BORRELL PARK WAS MENTIONED.
I HAVE A FRIEND THAT LIVES RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
IT'S CONSTANT.
CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS?
PEOPLE ARE LEAVING HERE.
COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT.
REACHED OUT TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE, CHIEF BENNETT, ON AND
ON.
NEBRASKA AVENUE NEEDS HELP.
I EVEN LIKE THE NAME OF THIS PROJECT.
YBOR.
QUOTE GODFATHER 2, YOU TOOK THE NAME OF THIS TOWN WHEN THE
GUY SAYS CORLEONE.
THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT.
I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COST PER UNIT, BUT WHEN

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 50 YEARS, THAT'S GENERATIONAL ALMOST
MULTIGENERATIONAL OF SUSTAINABILITY AND KEEPING SOMEBODY IN
THEIR HOME.
I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS UNNAMED THAT THEY RENT.
I WAS A RENTER.
THANKFULLY MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT A CONDO.
WE THOUGHT WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO BUY AT $185,000.
BUT I KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM BEING OUT ON
THE STREET.
I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT EVERY MONTH IT'S I GOT TO COME UP
WITH THE RENT OR THE WORST IS THE RENEWAL RATE.
HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO RAISE THE RENT THIS TIME.
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN MISERABLE FOR THEM.
BECAUSE TAMPA IS UNAFFORDABLE.
DOING THIS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEEDS, YOU KNOW, FOR MANY,
MANY YEARS, THAT NEEDS A HAND UP, I THINK THIS IS A VERY
WORTHY PROJECT.
AS MS. McCASKILL, WHEN SHE SPOKE, SHE SAID I REPRESENT THE
PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
THIS COULD BE THE CATALYST.
SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING.
THIS COULD BE THAT PROJECT THAT REALLY REIGNITES NEBRASKA
AVENUE.
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
I APPRECIATE IT.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF COUNCIL --
1:39:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT WAS DON -- THE GODFATHER PART 2.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN OR BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND BOARD
MEMBER MIRANDA.
AGAIN, WE'RE BEYOND THE TIME CRUNCH.
SO PLEASE.
1:39:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE ISSUE IS NOT THE PROJECT ITSELF.
OBVIOUSLY, IT IS AN IMPORTANT CORRIDOR.
AGAIN, I SAID IF YOU HAD MORE SITE CONTROL, THAT WOULD
REALLY TRULY BE A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT.
IT'S MATH.
LITERALLY ON ZILLOW LOOKING AT RENTS.
80% AMI, THERE ARE A PLETHORA OF APARTMENTS AVAILABLE IN
THIS AREA AND EVEN IN THE NEWER PLACES ON YBOR CITY FOR THE
SAME AMOUNT THAT'S PROPOSED.
THAT IS WHAT THE MARKET RATE IS RIGHT NOW IN TAMPA.
GRANTED, AGAIN WE'RE IN A CORRECTION PERIOD OF RENT.
I GET THAT.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
I THINK EVEN THE CAC ONLY RECOMMENDED 2 MILLION I THINK.
HONESTLY, I REALLY ENCOURAGE US CONTINUING THIS ITEM TO NEXT
MONTH.
YOU GUYS REWORK THESE NUMBERS AND COME BACK WITH A MORE
REASONABLE PROPOSAL TO MATCH THE MARKET, TO MATCH WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT, WORK WITH STAFF.

I AGREE WITH BOTH COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GENERATIONAL WEALTH, BECAUSE I THINK ONE
OF THE THINGS COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT, SAYING HOW WE
HELP PEOPLE IS WITH GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
I'M REALLY KEYED INTO THAT.
IF WE USE GOVERNMENT MONEY, I THINK THAT IS A CATALYST FOR
PEOPLE, THAT IS A REALLY TRUE BENEFIT THAT WE CAN BRING TO
THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH THE
PEOPLE.
QUITE HONESTLY, AT THIS AMOUNT, NOBODY IN THE CRA THAT'S
LIVING AND WORKING IN THE CRA CAN STILL EVEN AFFORD THIS.
THIS IS STILL A REALLY -- THESE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
CURRENTLY LIVING IN THE CRA THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE DOWNTOWN PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WORKING IN
YBOR CITY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE CURRENTLY LIVING WITHIN THE
CRA AND PAYING THE TAXES OF THE CRA.
I WILL ACTUALLY MAKE THE MOTION AND SEE IF THIS CONTINUES.
I WOULD MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO OUR NEXT CRA MEETING
WHICH WOULD BE JULY --
1:41:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, I KNOW
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS GOING TO SPEAK.
I WANT TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON THIS.
I HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS TO GIVE ON THIS, WHICH I'LL SUFFICE

IN TWO MINUTES.
AGAIN, JUST SO THAT WE KNOW THE TERRAIN, HOW DO YOU FEEL
ABOUT A 30 DAY CONTINUANCE?
1:42:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JULY 24.
1:42:04PM >> MY GOAL FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS HAS BEEN TO
DELIVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS TO THE COMMUNITY AND FIND A
WAY TO GET THIS PROJECT ACCOMPLISHED.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME LIGHT AT THE END OF THE
TUNNEL.
THE QUESTION I'VE ASKED TO STAFF AND LEADERS IS HOW DO WE
GET THIS PROJECT DONE?
I THINK WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY AND GET THIS
PROJECT DONE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO COMMIT TO 30 OR 50 PERCENT AMI IF THAT MAKES
IT BETTER.
THAT WOULD KEEP OUR FEET TO THE FIRE TO GO FIGURE OUT HOW WE
ACHIEVE THAT, BUT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO OBTAINING
OUR FUNDING REQUEST SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING.
I GUESS I'M OPEN.
JUST NOT SURE WHAT IS BEING ASKED OF ME IN THAT AMOUNT OF
TIME THAT I HAVEN'T ALREADY --
1:43:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, LET ME LET COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
FINISH.
1:43:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH THAT IN LIGHT WHAT YOU JUST SAID, I

THINK IF WE CAME BACK ON THE 24th WITH REWORKING THIS
PROPOSAL, I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE A MORE -- YOU'D HAVE A
MORE ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE FROM AT LEAST ONE PERSON.
I CAN SPEAK TO.
BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO WORK WITH STAFF AND YOU HAVE THAT
DEFINITIVE PROPOSAL TO COME BEFORE US OF SAYING THIS IS WHAT
WE'LL BUILD.
BUILD 20 UNITS, 15 AT THIS AMI AND 5 AT THIS AMI AND THIS IS
HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MORE WISE MOVE.
AGAIN, TOO MUCH FOR TOO LITTLE.
YOU CAN TAKE YOUR SHOT.
IF YOU GET IT VOTED DOWN.
1:43:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
REALLY QUICK, MR. BEREDAY, WE ARE PAST THE
CLOCK.
30 SECONDS.
GO FOR IT.
1:43:56PM >> I WENT TO DOZENS OF MEETINGS FOR A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF
ASKING HOW TO GET, HOW CAN THE PROJECT GET FUNDED, WHERE IS
THE MONEY AVAILABLE AND THIS IS THE END POINT OF THE
JOURNEY.
30, 50 PERCENT AMI, IT REQUIRES OBTAINING VOUCHERS WHICH
REQUIRE A COMPETITIVE RFP AND APPROVAL PROCESS THROUGH THE
TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY OR OTHER ALLOCATING AGENCIES.
I'M NOT AWARE WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT BE OUT THERE

FOR ME TO OBTAIN FUNDING TO GUARANTEE THE 30, 50 PERCENT AMI
LEVEL.
1:44:40PM >> B. PARKS.
JUST TO BREAK DOWN A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE DID GO BACK AS STAFF AND THAT'S WHEN RECOMMENDED THE $2
MILLION.
100K PER UNIT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN ANY MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE OF
FLORIDA IS DOING.
AGAIN, CRA IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO CATER TO
THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPERS, NOT THE MEGA ONES.
IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO MAKE THE DEALS WORK BECAUSE IT IS
MORE EXPENSES FOR THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP THESE TYPE OF
DEVELOPMENTS.
AGAIN, THE HUNDRED K PER UNIT IS ACTUALLY A GOOD
COUNTEROFFER.
I KNOW HE'S REQUESTING 5 MILLION.
BUT I WENT THROUGH RESEARCH AND THAT'S WHEN I COUNTERED WITH
2 MILLION WITH 100K PER UNIT BECAUSE AGAIN THAT'S EVEN MORE
THAN WHAT IS GIVEN BY MUNICIPALITIES BUT THE COST OF
CONSTRUCTION IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE PART.
30% AMI AND 50% AMI, HE IS INCORRECT WITH THAT INFORMATION
ABOUT GOING FOR RFP FOR VOUCHERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS IT
RELATES TO, IF YOUR RENT IS A CERTAIN LIMIT, YOU CAN RENT TO
WHOEVER AS LONG AS THEY MAKE UNDER 80% AMI.

NO MATTER WHAT, A 50% AMI CAN STILL COME AND RENT AS LONG AS
THEY HAVE THAT VOUCHER FROM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THEY
STILL HAVE THAT ABILITY OF USING THEIR OWN FUNDS TO COVER
THE RENT.
THERE IS A POSSIBILITY EITHER WAY.
THEY DON'T NEED THAT.
1:46:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
1:46:18PM >> FROM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
1:46:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE'RE AT 1:46.
WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONTINUANCE OF A MONTH.
I THINK WE NEED A CONTINUANCE AFTER LUNCH.
JUST BEING HONEST.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS.
1:45.
STAFF NEEDS TO EAT.
AND WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
1:46:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AND WE HAVE A NIGHT MEETING.
1:46:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S ON US.
PEOPLE ARE TALKING.
AND THAT'S IT.
CAN WE GET OUT -- NO, WE'RE NOT.
WE STILL HAVE ITEM 11 WHICH NEEDS TO BE DONE THIS MONTH.
COUNCIL, WHAT WE CAN DO IS RETURN AT 3:15.
LOOK, WE'VE STILL GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT WITH

THIS.
I HAVEN'T EVEN GIVEN MY THOUGHTS.
HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT IT AND STILL GOING BACK AND FORTH.
I WANT TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON IT.
1:47:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I ASK YOU GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS NOW AND COME
BACK AT WHATEVER TIME.
1:47:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT.
HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
COUNCIL, IS EVERYONE AMENABLE TO TAKING A LUNCH AND
RETURNING.
1:47:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I ALREADY CANCELED EVERYTHING.
1:47:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M FINE WITH IT.
AS A SIDE NOTE, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST WE GET TOGETHER FOR
LUNCH JUST TO REMEMBER OUR FRIEND GWEN.
1:47:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL DO THAT.
GREAT IDEA, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
MY THOUGHTS, FOR ME, NUMBER ONE, I WANTED TO START WITH THE
PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH IS I'VE NEVER SEEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON
THIS ITEM THAT'S MORE IMPACTFUL IN A POSITIVE WAY TOWARDS A
PROJECT.
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE ARE ALL STAKEHOLDERS, REAL,
LEGITIMATE, ORGANIC STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS AREA.
WHEN I SAY THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB, I DON'T MEAN THAT IN
SOME GREAT PRESENTATION, ASTROTURF.
IT WAS ORGANIC.

THESE ARE FOLKS VESTED INTEREST.
THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN FROM IT OTHER THAN A BETTER
COMMUNITY THAT THEY LIVE IN.
THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
AGAIN, BEING UP HERE, YOU SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE
THAT.
TO ME, THIS IS ABOUT MORE THAN THE HOUSING.
THIS IS ABOUT THE CORRIDOR.
THIS GOES OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSING EFFORT THAT WE'RE SEEING
HERE.
IT'S REALLY GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE THAT'S POSITIVE
IN THE CORRIDOR, WHICH IS WHY WE SAW SO MANY GOOD FOLKS FROM
THE COMMUNITY COME OUT HERE WHO, AGAIN, GOT NOTHING TO GAIN
OTHER THAN A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
ULTIMATELY, I DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, BUT I DO THINK THERE
ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ANSWERED WHICH IS COUNCILMAN
CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT TAKING A LOOK AT AMENDED AMI.
LOOK AT THAT DURING LUNCH.
LOOK AT THAT DURING LUNCH.
THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING LUNCH.
THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ON THIS.
THIS IS NET, A BIG POSITIVE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS AND SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, I WANT
TO GET MORE DEFINITION ON THOSE, WHICH IS WHY I'M TALKING

ABOUT LUNCH.
AGAIN, FOR ME, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.
I TALKED TO STAFF BEFORE ABOUT IT.
THEY GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION ON IT PRIVATELY AND HAD A LOT
OF THOUGHTS ABOUT IT.
BUT PUBLIC COMMENT REALLY DID A VERY GOOD JOB, AGAIN,
SPEAKING FROM THE HEART ON THEIR COMMUNITY BUT THERE ARE
SOME ISSUES THAT I DO THINK NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND AT THE
VERY LEAST TAKE OUT LUNCH TO THINK ABOUT THOSE.
AM I ON THE RIGHT SPOT, COUNCIL?
I THINK THAT IS REASONABLE.
1:49:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AGREE.
1:49:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ONE LAST THING, YOU MENTIONED YBOR, I WOULD
ALWAYS URGE YOU TO REMEMBER SALVADOR MARTINEZ YBOR WHO WAS
HIS GRANDSON WHO WAS KILLED IN ACTION IN WORLD WAR II.
HONORARY STREET RENAMING AFTER HIM.
GREAT PART OF THE YBOR LEGACY.
COUNCIL, IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH TAKING A BREATHER AND HAVING
LUNCH?
MR. McCRAY.
1:50:04PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
IF I COULD HIGHLIGHT ONE THING.
THERE WAS A COMMENT JUST MADE AND ATTORNEY SHEPHARD WANTED
TO SPEAK TO THAT BEFORE WE TOOK A RECESS.
1:50:13PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
JUST BRIEFLY AND HATE TO BE A SCROOGE ON A
DAY LIKE TODAY, BUT I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST DO YOU NOT

LUNCH TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH THE CONVERSATION MIGHT BE JUST
IN MEMORY OF CHAIR HENDERSON, THE LOOK OF IT AND WHAT
SOMEONE MIGHT MAKE OUT OF IT IS PROBABLY NOT WORTH IT.
1:50:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I GET IT.
BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.
THANK YOU, ATTORNEY SHEPHARD.
SOMETIMES LAWYERS HAVE TO BE THE BAD GUYS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, GOOD FOR 3:00, 3:15?
3:15 IT IS.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
[LUNCH RECESS]

3:27:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CRA IS CALLED BACK INTO SESSION.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
THANKS.
3:27:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
3:27:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
3:27:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
3:27:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
3:27:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
3:27:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
3:27:24PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
3:27:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE WERE ON THE LATTER HALF -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED, SIR.

3:27:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MENTIONED EARLIER TO ASK MS. KOPESKY ABOUT
THE FUN-LAN DEAL.
I GOT A COPY.
I TRY TO INTENTIONALLY FORGET THINGS AFTER WE APPROVE THEM.
BUT IT WAS -- IT'S APPLES AND ORANGES.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A 99-YEAR INTEREST-FREE LOAN FOR $12
MILLION.
SO THERE IS A SUBSIDY THERE AND IT'S INTEREST-FREE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GETS PAID BACK IN A HUNDRED YEARS, BUT
THAT IS A DIFFERENT PAGE.
HERE IS THE KICKER.
IT'S UP TO 120% AMI.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 80% AMI AS MARKET RATE RIGHT NOW.
120% IS WAY ABOVE MARKET RATE.
IN THEORY, ANYTHING BETWEEN 80 AND 120, ANYTHING ABOVE 80%
REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY SUBSIDY AT ALL.
IF IT'S 35,000 A UNIT, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE SOMETHING
THAT IS 120% AMI IS REALLY ABOVE WHAT AN AVERAGE PERSON CAN
AFFORD RIGHT NOW.
IF THIS WAS TALKING ABOUT 50% AMI, THAT WOULD BE A
DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S NOT.
3:28:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MEETING THIS EVENING AT 5:00.
WE'RE AT 3:30.
WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER ITEM AFTER THIS.
SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD BUT MOVE FORWARD WITH VIGOR.

3:29:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE DEVELOPER OR
EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS THING.
I JUST QUESTION MYSELF OVER HAVING A SANDWICH -- YOU'RE
RIGHT, SUBWAY.
DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT BECAUSE McDONALD'S WOULD GET MAD AT
ME.
MAYBE THE CAC APPROVED SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID.
I LOOK AROUND AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS THE CRA IS
GOING TO HAVE LEFT TO DO OTHER -- I MEAN HELP PEOPLE WITH
MORTGAGE OR PAYMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW NONE OF THAT STUFF.
TAKING A SHOT HERE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I JUST DON'T LIKE TO VOTE NO.
I LIKE TO VOTE YES.
I HAVE DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO
QUESTIONS.
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRA HAS LEFT ONCE IT IS PAID DO THEY
HAVE MONEY FOR ASSISTANCE?
I DON'T KNOW.
I'VE GOT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING ALL THE WAY AROUND.
I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE KNOWN FACT AND UNKNOWN FACT AT THE
SAME TIME, WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME OR ANYBODY ELSE.
3:30:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I THINK WE HAVE MR. McCRAY HERE FOR THAT.

3:30:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REAL QUICK, IF IT IS A QUESTION ABOUT
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN REGARDS TO OTHER PROJECTS FOR WHAT
HAS BEEN EARMARKED FOR HOUSING, CAN THE DEVELOPER STILL
MANAGE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LOWER AMOUNT INSTEAD OF
KILLING THE PROJECT, SAYING NO.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
3:30:33PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
ULTIMATELY THEY WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
MR. BEREDAY WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
3:30:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED I THINK BY
INFERENCE HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE LEFT OUT OF THE 30% FOR
THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
3:30:50PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
WE DID HAVE A SPECIAL-CALLED BUDGET
WORKSHOP ON MAY 27 AND THEN WE HAD A CAC MEETING THIS PAST
TUESDAY OR TUESDAY, JUNE 3rd.
THE EAST TAMPA CAC ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED MORE THAN THE
ALLOCATED OR MANDATED 30%.
IT'S A LITTLE ABOVE 50.
BUT THOSE DOLLARS ARE FOR HOUSING REHAB PROGRAM, WE PROBABLY
HAVE COMMITTED OVER $3 MILLION IN THAT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.
DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
I DID SHARE THIS WITH THEM DURING THE PROCESS THAT WE
ALLOCATED 1.5 ALREADY THIS FISCAL YEAR AND TALKING WITH HCD

TO REPROGRAM SOME MORE DOLLARS AS WELL.
THEN THE INFILL HOUSING PROGRAM.
THEY DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
CREATION AND CONVERSION, THIS ULTIMATELY WOULD BE WHERE THAT
WOULD FALL.
AND THAT ALLOCATION WAS RIGHT AT $2 MILLION THEY HAD
REQUESTED THAT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS MOVED TO THE
COMMERCIAL GRANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS, WHICH THE
BOARD HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT YOU ALL WANT US TO BE AS
AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE IN WORKING WITH REAL ESTATE TO FIND
AVAILABLE PARCELS IN ALL OF THE CRAs.
3:32:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW MUCH WOULD BE LEFT FOR HOUSING OUT OF THE
CRA IN EAST TAMPA IF WE APPROVE THIS AT THE FULL REQUESTED
AMOUNT?
3:32:18PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
IF IT'S OVER TWO FISCAL YEARS, IT WOULD BE
2.5 PER YEAR.
BUT THAT WOULD DEFINITELY AFFECT HOW THEY MADE ALLOCATIONS
OR SUGGESTIONS, ULTIMATELY THE BUDGET WOULD BE COMING BEFORE
YOU ALL AT THE JULY MEETING.
3:32:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCIL, BEFORE WE CONTINUE SPEAKING, HOW
ABOUT THIS, TO GET THIS THING MOVING, AGAIN, BEEN ON IT FOR
A WHILE AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE BRING IT IN FOR A LANDING.
IS SOMEONE PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION?
3:32:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON THIS YEAR'S.

HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE THIS YEAR IN THIS BUCKET?
3:32:54PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CAC,
ROUGHLY ABOUT 5.5 MILLION.
3:32:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
IN FY '25.
3:33:02PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES, REMAINING.
3:33:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RIGHT NOW, 5.5.
3:33:05PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THEY MADE THE REQUEST TO REPROGRAM SOME
DOLLARS TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
3:33:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MEANT IN THE SUB-BUCKET.
3:33:15PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CREATION AND CONVERSION.
3:33:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
5.5 IN CREATION AND CONVERSION.
3:33:20PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, NO.
THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD, THE TOTAL.
3:33:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT DO WE HAVE IN CREATION AND CONVERSION?
3:33:30PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
-- 2 MILLION.
3:33:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS YEAR. WHAT DO WE HAVE?
ABOUT 2 MILLION.
3:33:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
WORK ANY OF THESE THINGS DURING THE LUNCH BREAK AND WANTED
TO PRESENT THAT.
ABSENT THAT, I STILL THINK THE WISE THING TO DO, YOU GUYS --
YOU HEAR THE FISCAL REALITIES OF THIS BUDGET AND THAT YOU
GUYS GET TOGETHER AND WE CONTINUE THIS UNTIL THE JULY
MEETING SO THAT WE HAVE REAL FIGURES.

THEN WE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE, WHAT
THE IMPACT THAT HAS ON THE REST OF THE BUDGET FOR LIKE DOWN
PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND ALL THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO STEAL FROM ONE PROGRAM TO PAY FOR ANOTHER.
SO I THINK GETTING THIS -- THE REAL DOLLARS.
AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND, I THINK IT'S A
BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
IT'S A GREAT LOCATION.
THERE IS A LOT OF POSITIVE HERE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT CRA DISTRICT AND WE'RE DOING THIS
FOR THE RIGHT -- THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE RIGHT
PROJECT, ALL THOSE THINGS.
I JUST REALLY WANT IT TO BE BALANCED.
I REALLY TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE THOSE
FEW WEEKS FOR YOU GUYS TO WORK IT OUT, WORK WITH STAFF AND
COME BACK WITH A DEFINITIVE, LIKE THIS IS REASONABLE
EXPECTATION OF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR BANK ACCOUNT AND WHAT
YOU'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE AS FAR AS AMI AND BENEFIT FOR
THE COMMUNITY.
IN MY HEART AND SOUL, I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE
ABLE TO GET TO A GOOD RESULT TODAY.
3:35:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TO CALL UP THAD BEREDAY, WERE YOU ABLE TO WORK
UP ANYTHING DURING LUNCH?
WE'LL GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES.

3:35:26PM >> THIS DOES NOT RESPOND TO THE COMMENT THAT WAS JUST MADE,
FROM THE DISCUSSION PRIOR TO OUR ADJOURNMENT, WE CIRCLED
WAGONS, HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH STAFF AND WOULD PROPOSE THE
FOLLOWING IN RETURN FOR THE APPROVAL OF OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS
GRANT REQUEST AT THE $5 MILLION TODAY.
WE WOULD VOLUNTARILY COMMIT AND RESTRICT THE AMI LEVELS, 12
UNITS 80% AMI, 6 UNITS, 50% AMI.
2 UNITS, 30% AMI.
THAT WOULD BE 8 UNITS AT THE LOWER LEVELS, AND WE WOULD NOT
MAKE THAT CONTINGENT.
WE WOULD MAKE THAT A COMMITMENT THAT WOULD BE CONTRACTED.
SO IT WOULD CHANGE OUR MARKETING PROGRAM SO THAT WE'RE NOT
JUST MAKING -- WE WOULD HAVE 12 UNITS AVAILABLE FOR 80% AMI
BUT THE OTHER UNITS WOULD BE RESTRICTED AND WE WOULD COMMIT
TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN'T DO MORE THAN 8 VOUCHERS FOR OTHER REASONS.
IT WOULD BE THE 50-YEAR AFFORDABILITY LOCK-IN.
AND THEN I THINK THE ISSUE BECAME TIMING OF THE PAYMENTS.
BY MAKING THAT CONCESSION, WE ARE REDUCING THE AMOUNT THAT
WE CAN BORROW UNDER OUR CONSTRUCTION LOAN, SO WE'RE RAISING
THE HURDLE OF PRIVATE EQUITY CAPITAL THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE
AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL PROJECT.
IT WAS GOING TO BE 1.2 MILLION, NOW IT WILL BE 2 MILLION.
THE $800,000 IMPACT FROM THAT AGREEMENT BEING THE DELTA, THE
CHANGE.

AND WE WOULD LIKE THE PAYMENTS FROM THE CRA PAID ON THE SAME
TERMS AS OUR CONSTRUCTION LOAN.
AS WE COMPLETE THE PROJECT OVER THE NEXT 18 TO 24 MONTHS WE
WOULD SUBMIT COMPLETION AND VERIFICATION THAT WE
ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH AND THEN A
DRAWDOWN FROM THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN AND A DRAWDOWN FROM THE
CRA.
THAT CREATES A TIMING ISSUE THAT IS A BUDGET QUESTION.
3:37:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, AND THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:37:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THE DILEMMA AGAIN WITH THE 5
MILLION, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT AS MS. PARK SAID, EVEN
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER UNIT EXCEEDS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE
ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THE FISCAL REALITY, OUR BUDGET IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA, OVER
TWO-YEAR PERIOD, IT WOULD STILL ONLY BE 2.5, AND IF WE COULD
EVEN DO THAT AND EVEN I'M HEARING EVEN BY DOING THAT WE'RE
STILL GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY TAKING FROM OTHER FUNDS TO BE
ABLE TO MAKE THAT WORK.
YOU BASICALLY WOULD TAKE HUNDRED PERCENT FOR ALL THE MONEY
FOR ANY PROJECT IN THE CRA FOR THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF
PROJECT AND POTENTIALLY CUT INTO THE DOWN PAYMENT
ASSISTANCE, SO SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME ROOM IN HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS,

BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE SO MUCH MONEY IN OUR POT AND RESTRICTED
TO THOSE LIMITATIONS.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ALL NEED TO TALK
ABOUT BETWEEN NOW AND THE 24th OF JULY TO GET THE REAL
BECAUSE OTHERWISE, FISCAL REALITY.
WE'VE GOT X AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BUDGET AND THAT'S ALL WE
HAVE.
IT'S ALL WE HAVE.
RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY ARE TELLING -- WHAT STAFF IS TELLING ME,
IS JUST FOR THE NEXT YEAR, WE BASICALLY HAVE $2 MILLION OUT
OF THIS YEAR AND MAYBE 2 MILLION OF NEXT YEAR, BUT THAT'S
ALL THE MONEY WE HAVE IN THAT PARTICULAR POT.
UNDERSTANDING THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CRA IS WILLING TO
SAY WE'LL INVEST ALL OF OUR MONEY IN ONE PROJECT.
THAT IS A BIG ASK.
3:39:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
AGAIN, WE'LL LIMIT COMMENTS TO TWO MINUTES SO WE CAN MOVE
THIS FORWARD.
WE HAVE A 5:00.
FOR PURPOSES OF QUASI-JUDICIAL, WE NEED TO HAVE A BREAK.
3:39:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOW WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION THAT DEBUNKS THE
$35,000 PER UNIT THING.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL NEVER DISCUSS THAT AGAIN.
MS. PARKS PUT TOGETHER THE CHART, SHE DID BENCHMARKING.

WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION.
IF YOU WANT TO REVISIT THAT AND LOOK AT THE BENCHMARKING OF
IT.
BUT TO GO DEEP INTO THAT, THAT AND THE CHART WILL TAKE A LOT
OF TIME.
I THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPER AND OTHERS HAVE PUT TOGETHER IN
GOOD FAITH PRESENTATIONS BASED ON WHAT WE APPROVED IN
FEBRUARY.
IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE CHART, SET UP A MEETING AND PUT
SOME TIME AFTER IT SO WE CAN SET EXPECTATIONS ON WHAT WE CAN
DO.
THE REALITY IS THAT THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROJECTS
BEHIND THIS.
THERE'S AT LEAST ONE $9 MILLION PROJECT.
IF WE TURN THIS DOWN TODAY, WHAT THIS CITY HAS ALWAYS DONE
IS TURN DOWN THE SMALL DEVELOPERS, TURN DOWN THE NONPROFITS
IN FAVOR OF THE BIG DEVELOPERS.
IF WE TURN THIS DOWN TODAY, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT
WE NOT ALLOW ANY OF THE BIG PROJECTS TO COME BACK THROUGH
FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE HOLDING OUT MONEY FOR A BIG DEVELOPER AND
WON'T GIVE IT TO THE SMALL ONES OR THE NONPROFITS WHICH
ESSENTIALLY THIS IS NOW, I THINK IT IS DESPICABLE.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL THAT HE
JUST PUT ON THE TABLE WHICH WOULD BE 5 MILLION -- HE

ANSWERED THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTION.
IT'S A SMALL DEVELOPER WHO HE HAPPENS TO BE IN EAST TAMPA
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LINES WERE DRAWN BY SOMEBODY BESIDES
US, IT'S AN AREA WHERE IT WILL COMPLETELY TRANSFORM THAT
AREA.
HE'S ANSWERED THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTION BY PUTTING LOWER AMI.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 5 MILLION THAT
WOULD INCLUDE SIX UNITS AT 50% AMI, TWO UNITS AT 30% AMI, 12
AT 80% AMI.
THE OTHER ONE WAS 120%.
CAN YOU ALSO SAY THAT TWO OF THEM ARE ADA?
3:41:18PM >> YES.
3:41:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO AT 80% THAT ARE ADA?
3:41:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. BEREDAY, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP.
3:41:26PM >> THAD BEREDAY, URBAN REWORX.
THE ADA UNITS ARE GROUND LEVEL AND DESIGNED FOR THAT.
I HOPE THEY WOULD BE THE 30% AMI UNITS.
3:41:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU'LL COMMIT TO TWO ADA UNITS.
3:41:39PM >> YES.
3:41:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
TWO ADA UNITS.
SIX AT 50% AMI.
3:41:45PM >> YES.
3:41:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED.
TWO AT 30% AMI, AND THEN 12 AT 80% AMI.

AND THAT'S FOR 50 YEARS.
YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS MONEY -- THIS MONEY IS NOT PAYING
FOR CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S SUBSIDIZING THAT LEASE THAT WE'RE BUYING THAT UNIT,
BUYING DOWN THE LEASE OVER A 50-YEAR PERIOD FOR PEOPLE.
3:42:06PM >> CORRECT.
3:42:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT IS A SMALL DEVELOPER SO THE NUMBERS ARE
NOT GOING TO BE BIG.
TURN DOWN 8 UNITS WAY BELOW MARKET, THEN WE SHOULD TURN DOWN
ALL THE BIG ONES --
3:42:16PM >> THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH IS
DIFFERENT FROM AVAILABLE UNITS ON THE MARKET TODAY.
3:42:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MAKE MY MOTION.
3:42:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON OR
BOARD MEMBER.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY DISCUSSION BRIEFLY?
3:42:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN A DEFINITIVE
ANSWER.
YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBERS.
IF WE DO THIS, WHAT IS LEFT OVER FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWN
PAYMENTS FOR THINGS WE NORMALLY DO WITHOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT?
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT OR NOT.
3:42:47PM >> B. PARKS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE $1.5 MILLION IN THE CREATION AND

CONVERSION LINE ITEM AS OF RIGHT NOW.
3:42:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S INCLUDING THIS?
3:42:59PM >>BELIX PARKS:
NO --
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE 1.5 MILLION, I LOOKED FIRST AT THE
CALCULATION THAT I PROPOSED FOR THE 2 MILLION THAT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE 666 A YEAR.
THAT'S HOW I BROKE DOWN THE THREE-YEAR COMMITMENT FOR THIS
PROJECT AT $2 MILLION.
3:43:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU DON'T HAVE ANY
MONEY LEFT OVER AT ALL?
3:43:21PM >>BELIX PARKS:
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT -- LET'S DO THE MATH.
5 MILLION DIVIDED BY 3 YEARS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT, RIGHT?
5 MILLION, BECAUSE OUR TERMS ARE THREE YEARS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S 1.666 PER YEAR THAT WE HAVE TO RESERVE FOR THIS
PROJECT FOR THREE YEARS.
NEXT YEAR WE HAVE 2 MILLION THAT WE ALLOCATED FOR THIS
CREATION AND CONVERSION.
3:43:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHERE IS THE MILLION FOR THE 9 MILLION ONE
COMING FROM?
3:43:56PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE DOLLARS THAT
WOULD BE REPROGRAMMED FROM THIS YEAR.
3:44:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MONEY FOR 9 MILLION ONE BUT DON'T HAVE MONEY
FOR 5 MILLION ONE.

3:44:08PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, I DIDN'T -- AND THAT PROJECT WOULD ALSO
HAVE TO BE SCHEDULED OUT AS WELL.
3:44:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
PLUS ALL THE TEN OTHERS SITTING OUT THERE.
3:44:15PM >>BELIX PARKS:
CORRECT.
BECAUSE THIS, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REFERENCE, EAST TAMPA IS
THE MOST DEVELOPER REQUEST THAT WE GET THROUGH THE DOOR IS
FOR EAST TAMPA.
SO THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS.
MOST DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN FOR EAST TAMPA.
SO THIS POT OF MONEY FOR UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION IS THE
MOST RESTRICTED.
THAT'S WHAT I RELY ON, DEFER TO MR. McCRAY TO FIGURE OUT
HOW WE CAN MOVE THAT MONEY, BECAUSE I WORK OFF OF RIGHT NOW
A 30% BUDGET FOR FY '25 AND A PROPOSED 50% PLUS FOR 2026
BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY ROLLOVER.
THE ROLLOVER DAYS ARE OVER.
JUST FULLY TRANSPARENT.
3:45:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
WERE YOU FINISHED?
3:45:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M FINISHED.
3:45:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
3:45:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
GOING FORWARD, WHEN WE ARE BRINGING THESE TYPES OF FUNDING
REQUESTS FROM NOW ON, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THE FINANCIALS
FOR THAT CRA BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I'M VERY CONFUSED AND I'M

VERY VISUAL.
I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO ASK FOR THAT GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE
THE PROBLEM IS YOU COME FOR AN ASK AND THIS IS A PROJECT --
WELL, MAJORITY OF US WANT TO SUPPORT, BUT KNOWING THAT WE
DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IS KIND OF A BIG PART OF IT.
IT DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL FROM THE GET-GO TO
KNOW WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHY I AM --
3:45:58PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THAT ULTIMATELY WAS BASED ON THE
RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF TO THE EAST TAMPA CAC.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS BASED ON.
3:46:06PM >>BELIX PARKS:
WE DID HAVE MONEY FOR 2 MILLION.
3:46:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET ME MAKE SURE WE'RE RUNNING THIS MEETING
PROPERLY.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, DID YOU HAVE A REQUEST THEN FOR A
DEFINITE AMOUNT SPECIFIED IN TERMS OF WHAT WOULD BE LEFT
OVER?
3:46:20PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
3:46:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY ISSUE IS WITH VOTING ON THIS TODAY, I WANT
TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH.
THIS IS INFORMATION WE WOULD NEED TO VOTE ON THIS, RIGHT?
I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
I WANT TO SEE IT GO FORWARD.
IF IT GETS CONTINUED TO NEXT MONTH, I'LL VOTE YES, 99%,
99.9%.

BUT WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.
AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BEFORE, SO
I'M NOT SAYING THAT AS AN ATTACK.
GOD KNOWS YOU GUYS GO 85 MILES AN HOUR IN A 55-MILE AN HOUR
ZONE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
BUT WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.
I ALMOST FEEL LIKE I WANT TO GO, HEY, LET'S WAIT 30 MINUTES,
GET THE INFORMATION, BUT WE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE CLOCK.
THAT'S MY THOUGHT.
3:47:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE ALL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
I KNOW IF I GO PUT ALL THIS IN THIS BASKETBALL, THERE ARE NO
MORE EGGS IN THE BASKETBALL.
AND I HAVE HALF A YEAR TO GO.
I HAVE TO BALANCE IT OUT BETWEEN DO I PUT ALL MY EGGS IN ONE
BASKET?
WHAT ABOUT THE ONES ASKING FOR HELP.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS 20 FAMILIES.
I'M TRYING TO BALANCE IT OUT.
THIS IS NOT A BAD PROJECT.
I LOVE THE DESIGN.
I LOVE THE LOCATION.
IF SOMEBODY KNOCKS ON THE DOOR, HEY, HOW ABOUT ME?
3:47:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AVAILABLE TODAY ON
WHAT IS LEFT?

YOU SAID WE HAVE $1.5 MILLION ALREADY LEFT OVER, CORRECT,
ASIDE FROM THIS.
3:47:48PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CORRECT.
3:47:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
3:47:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS LEFT IN THE CRA
BUDGET, PERIOD.
NOT JUST HOUSING.
I NEED TO KNOW ALL THE AREAS.
LIKE I SAID IN THE FUTURE, I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU TO
VISUALIZE WHAT I'M TRYING TO SEE.
I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR A SECOND COLUMN IN THAT -- I'M
VISUALIZING THE SCHEDULE YOU GIVE US, THE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE
EVERYTHING GOES EVERY TIME WE LOOK AT THE ANNUAL BUDGET, BUT
MAYBE AN EXTRA COLUMN WITH WHAT WE SPENT AND WHAT WE HAVE.
BECAUSE I JUST ASKED, I THINK, LAST MEETING TO MOVE A
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE EXTRA TREE TRIMMING AND THAT
DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM.
BUT NOW I'M WONDERING, OKAY, I KNOW WHERE WE TOOK IT FROM.
SOME SORT OF -- WHERE DID --
3:48:47PM >> -- INFRASTRUCTURE AND IMPROVEMENTS.
3:48:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT MONEY IS LEFT THERE.
I GUESS I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S MONEY IN OTHER BUCKETS THAT
WE COULD SHIFT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WANT THE BUDGET AS A WHOLE.

BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE WHERE WE COULD POSSIBLY SHIFT FUNDING
FROM THIS YEAR IF THERE IS ANY.
I HATE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THIS, BUT I KIND OF
FEEL LIKE WE DO.
I REALLY WANT TO SEE THE NUMBERS.
DO I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
3:49:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
3:49:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I THINK --
3:49:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT JUST THIS YEAR THAT WE NEED TO THE
PROJECTIONS, HOW THEY ARE PAID OUT TOO.
ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.
3:49:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS NOT JUST THIS PROJECT.
I AM SO SORRY TO THIS DEVELOPER BECAUSE YOU ARE THE FIRST
ONE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS WITH.
WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
WHAT WE'RE REALIZING IN THIS IS WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY
THE BACKUP INFORMATION THAT WE NEED.
I WANT TO APOLOGIZE PROFUSELY, BECAUSE I DO SUPPORT THIS
PROJECT.
I THINK THAT WE CAN FIND THE 5 MILLION.
I REALLY DO.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LOOKING AT -- AND IF I HAD IT IN FRONT
OF ME, I COULD MOVE THE MONEY NOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
THERE IS THE OPTION OF CONTINUING IT OR TALKING ABOUT THIS
POTENTIAL GUIDELINE AMENDMENTS.

THESE WILL BE QUESTIONS AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING
COME BACK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO PULL THE NUMBERS
TOGETHER?
I GUESS THAT IS A QUESTION.
3:50:53PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
WE CAN.
I'D LIKE TO CONFER WITH THE BUDGET ANALYST TO MAKE SURE
BECAUSE SHE WOULD HAVE THE MOST UPDATED INFORMATION.
3:51:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL AGREE TO THAT ONLY IF IT IS THE FIRST
THING ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
3:51:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN
CLENDENIN.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE THIS AS ITEM
NUMBER 1.
STATE MY INTENTION, WHICH IS SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, BUT I
THINK AS STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC'S TRUST AND FUNDS, THIS IS
INFORMATION WE HAVE TO EXHAUST TO GO THROUGH.
LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, WE WILL GET THERE BECAUSE
THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO GET THERE, BUT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH
THE PROCESS.
OTHERWISE I THINK IT WOULD BE WRONG.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
3:51:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE MORE MOTION SINCE

EVERYBODY IS HERE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUT ON THE SEPTEMBER 11 MEETING
A DISCUSSION THAT WOULD BE LED BY MS. PARKS TO DISCUSS THE
CHART AND ANY OTHER BENCHMARKING SHE HAS FROM OTHER CITIES,
AND THEN ALSO TO DISCUSS WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED FROM ALL THE
PROPOSALS YOU'VE GOTTEN SINCE FEBRUARY SO THAT WE CAN
DETERMINE IF THE CHART IS CORRECT AND WHAT THE GUIDELINES
WOULD BE.
3:52:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
3:52:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGAIN, IT WILL COME BACK IN 30 DAYS.
3:52:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ARE YOU HAVING A SCHEDULING PROBLEM?
3:52:43PM >> NO, NO, WE'RE FINE.
3:52:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE CLARITY IS THAT YOU THREW OUT SOME
NUMBERS.
I THINK WE ALL WANT TO HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
THIS WAY YOU'LL HAVE TWO MONTHS TO GO THROUGH AND REALLY
PLAN AND THINK ABOUT IT.
YOU CAN TALK TO US AND PRESENT IT ALL.
BUT ALSO LOOKING IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PROPOSALS YOU'VE
GOTTEN.
IN THE PAST, REMEMBER, WE HAD A PROPOSAL SAID I NEED $10

MILLION BUT NOTHING WAS TIED TO IT.
THIS -- THE CHART WE'RE SPECIFICALLY BUYING A CERTAIN AMOUNT
OF AMI, CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS FOR 50 YEARS.
AT LEAST WE HAVE CERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE'RE GETTING.
IF YOU HAVE NEW INFORMATION THAT MIGHT CHANGE IT OR INFORM
IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW THEN.
I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH.
3:53:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
3:53:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION THAT'S CONNECTED TO THIS.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE WORDING.
IN THE FUTURE FOR ANY OF THESE LARGE FORMAT, THE SPECIAL
PROJECTS FOR ANY SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT COME IN FRONT OF US,
WE ARE GOING TO NEED A BUDGET FOR THAT CRA THAT INCLUDES THE
ENTIRE BUDGET OF THE CRA, WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT FOR
THE FISCAL YEAR AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE.
SO THAT'S THE MOTION.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MONTH
ON WHAT I WOULD LIKE THAT CHART TO LOOK LIKE.
LIKE I SAID, I CAN SEE IT IN MY HEAD.
I KNOW WHAT I THINK WILL HELP US BE ABLE TO -- I KNOW YOU
WANT TO SEE THE FUTURE, BUT THE ISSUE IS WE HAVEN'T APPROVED
THAT BUDGET YET.
BUT IF YOU COULD BRING -- OBVIOUSLY, THE PROJECTIONS CAN
COME WITH IT, YES.
FOR THE FUTURE, TO HAVE OUR CURRENT FY BUDGET WITH WHAT HAS

BEEN SPENT, WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN EACH CATEGORY AND THE
PROJECTIONS FOR HOW WE EXPECT TO PAY THIS GOING FORWARD.
I'M SORRY.
TO ADD MS. KOPESKY ON THAT AS WELL.
3:54:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM.
THIS SHOULD BE CONTINUED TO NEXT MONTH.
CAN WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM BEFORE THE BOARD DISCUSSES IT?
3:55:10PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE WERE GOING
TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN JULY AS A PART -- WITH THE
BUDGETARY CONVERSATIONS AS IT RELATES TO OTHER COMMERCIAL
GRANTS AND PROJECTS.
IF IT IS THE BOARD'S WILL --
3:55:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LIKE I SAY, IT'S WITHIN OUR HANDS.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
3:55:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY REAL FAST, A
MONTH AGO WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SPEND ANY OF
THE EAST TAMPA CRA MONEY PAST SEPTEMBER.
IF THAT WAS STILL TRUE, WE WOULD BE PUSHING EVERY PROJECT WE
COULD THROUGH.
THAT DYNAMIC HAS JUST SUDDENLY CHANGED IN THIS MEETING.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING.

BUT SOME ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES DID CHANGE.
3:55:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BOARD.
FINAL ITEM.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
AND HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TIMEWISE FOR THE
PRESENTATION?
3:56:03PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
15 MINUTES.
3:56:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT WE'LL GIVE YOU 10?
3:56:08PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THEN WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
3:56:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
3:56:13PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NOT A PROBLEM.
UNDERSTOOD.
IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
I'LL INVITE MS. REED UP TO DISCUSS OUR FEEDBACK OR YOUR
FEEDBACK RELATED TO THE COMMERCIAL GRANTS POLICY.
3:56:31PM >>DEE REED:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
DEE REED, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
IN PREPARATION FOR THE POLICY UPDATE THAT WE WILL BE
PRESENTING TO YOU IN JULY, THERE ARE FIVE GUIDELINES THAT WE
WILL BE REQUESTING CLARIFICATION FROM THE BOARD SO THAT WE
CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE APPLYING THE POLICY IN ALIGNMENT WITH
THE INTENT OF THE BOARD.
SO THOSE ITEMS ARE ESTABLISHING A TYPE OF ARCHITECTURAL AND
HISTORIC PRESERVATION FEEDBACK DESIRED FOR BUILDINGS 50
YEARS AND OLDER THAT ARE NOT ALREADY SUBJECT FOR HISTORIC

REVIEW UNDER CITY CODE.
DETERMINING WHETHER RESTAURANTS WHO HAVE CITY OR STATE
PERMITS ALLOWING MORE THAN 50% OF THEIR REVENUE FROM ALCOHOL
SALES SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR CRA GRANTS.
DETERMINING IF BUSINESSES WHO PRIMARILY SELL ALCOHOL SHOULD
BE ADDED TO THE LIST THAT ALREADY EXCLUDES BARS, LOUNGES,
AND NIGHTCLUBS FROM GRANT ELIGIBILITY.
DETERMINING WHETHER TO REVISE THE COMMERCIAL INTERIOR GRANT
FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE, CHAPTER 163.
AND DETERMINING THE GRANT REPAYMENT TERMS IN THE EVENT OF
DEFAULT.
IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, I'LL READ EACH GRANT GUIDELINE AS
IT IS CURRENTLY WORDED IN THE POLICY AND STATE THE ORIGINAL
INTENT BEHIND THE GUIDELINE.
AT THAT TIME, I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR TO YOU FOR YOUR
DISCUSSION AND VOTE.
AFTER THAT VOTE, I'LL PROCEED TO THE NEXT GUIDELINE.
GUIDELINE ONE, STRUCTURES EXCEEDING 50 YEARS OF AGE REQUIRE
IMPROVEMENTS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL
REVIEW AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF FIRST AN APPLICANT
MUST COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
PROVIDED.
THE ORIGINAL INTENT IS TO INCENTIVIZE THE PRESERVATION OF
THE COMMUNITY'S HERITAGE BY PREVENTING DEMOLITION OF
SIGNIFICANT OLDER BUILDINGS THAT LACK HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

THE QUESTION THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DISCUSSED AND VOTED, IS
IT THE BOARD'S INTENT THAT STAFF PROCEED WITH THE
ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW BUT LIMITED TO
THE DETERMINATION OF RESTORATION AND RECONSTRUCTION?
3:59:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE BUILDING AND
ALLOW PEOPLE TO FIX IT UP.
I DON'T WANT TO INCENTIVIZE TEARING DOWN BUILDINGS.
WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PROTECT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION WOULD
BE WHAT I WOULD VOTE FOR.
ARE WE DOING A VOTE FOR THIS?
3:59:30PM >>DEE REED:
YOU'RE VOTING TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANT TO
LIMIT THEIR REVIEW TO DETERMINING WHETHER THE BUILDING CAN
BE DEMOLISHED OR IF IT HAS TO BE RESTORED OR IF WE WANT THEM
TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF WHAT MATERIAL CAN BE USED,
WHAT THE FINISH LOOKS LIKE, HOW DETAILED WE WANT TO REQUIRE
THEM TO --
3:59:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE BUILDING
ISN'T SALVAGEABLE?
3:59:56PM >>DEE REED:
THEN THEY WOULD DETERMINE THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY
FOR THEM TO DEMOLISH.
THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS THAT RIGHT NOW, THE
GUIDELINE DOES NOT SPECIFY THAT THEIR FEEDBACK IS LIMITED TO
JUST THEIR DETERMINATION OF WHETHER IT CAN BE DEMOLISHED OR
NOT.

SO THEY ARE GOING FURTHER INTO A MORE DETAILED HISTORIC
REVIEW AND WHERE THEY ARE GIVING GUIDELINES ON HOW THEY CAN
IMPROVE THE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS, THE TYPE OF MATERIAL.
WE'RE WANTING TO KNOW IF IT IS YOUR DESIRE FOR US TO LIMIT
THEIR FEEDBACK TO JUST THE DETERMINATION OF DEMOLITION OR
NOT.
4:00:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL DEFER TO SOME OF OUR HISTORICAL PEOPLE.
4:00:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I KNOW, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU MIND IF
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO GOES BEFORE YOU?
4:00:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, HE CAN GO FIRST.
I'LL GATHER MY THOUGHTS.
4:00:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS ALSO AN HISTORIC
PRESERVATION PERSON.
4:01:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BUT I THINK IT
IS A CITY PROCESS.
THE CITY HAS STAFF THAT SPECIALIZE IN THAT.
THE CRA SIMPLY SHOULD BE PROCESSING GRANTS AND NOT DOING
THAT KIND OF EVALUATION.
THE DECISION ON WHETHER TO KEEP A BUILDING OR NOT IS NOT A
CRA ISSUE.
THE QUESTION IS, ONCE IT'S DETERMINED THAT IT IS HISTORICAL
BUILDING OR ONCE A DEVELOPER HAS DECIDED THAT IT IS AN
HISTORICAL BUILDING, THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT
TO FUND IT OR NOT AND WE CAN PUT A CLAUSE THAT SAYS IF THEY
TEAR IT DOWN, WE WON'T FUND IT ANYMORE.

THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION GRANT WOULD BE FOR HISTORIC
PRESERVATION BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION AS TO
WHAT THE RULES ARE.
OTHERWISE WE'D HAVE TO HIRE SPECIALIZED STAFF OR PUT A HUGE
BURDEN ON OUR EXISTING STAFF.
4:01:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON BRINGS UP A GOOD
POINT REGARDING CRA FUNDING SEPARATE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
OUR OTHER ROLE AS CITY COUNCIL.
THE THING WITH TAMPA AND MANY CITIES, POST URBAN RENEWAL, IS
SO MUCH HAS BEEN LOST.
I HAVE A MAGAZINE FROM 1963 IN MY OFFICE.
A LIFE MAGAZINE, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE UPCOMING PROJECTS OF
1964 AND '65.
THE HIGHWAYS, THE INTERSTATES, THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
DEMOLISHED FOR PARKING LOTS OR WILL BE DEMOLISHED.
WE'VE DONE A HORRIBLE JOB.
I DON'T KNOW IF IN THIS COUNTRY, IF WE HAVE ANY UNESCO
HERITAGE SITES, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD, THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE
TOTALLY PRESERVED.
THE BEST THAT WE HAVE IS YBOR CITY AND THEN THE WEST TAMPA
HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH IS 800 HISTORIC BUILDINGS WITHIN
THE BOUNDARIES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S ON WIKIPEDIA.
IT'S EASY TO FIND.

THE THING IS, THERE IS THE TERM DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.
I THINK IT IS ABUSED GOING, OH, I HAD A FORMER CITY OF TAMPA
ELECTED OFFICIAL FROM A LONG TIME AGO.
I GO, YOU WERE IN LEADER -- IF I GET TOO SPECIFIC, IT WILL
GIVE AWAY HIS IDENTITY -- I GO YOU WERE IN LEADERSHIP WHEN
THIS WAS KNOCKED DOWN.
HE TELLS ME, IT WAS MORE EXPENSIVE TO PUT A ROOF ON IT THAN
WHAT THE BUILDING WAS WORTH AND WE NEEDED THE PARKING FOR
IT.
THE PARKING FOR MORE VALUABLE.
EVEN HERE, CATTY-CORNER, BEAUTIFUL HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET
AND IT WAS DEMOLISHED IN THE LATE '60s.
ANYWAYS, I REMEMBER MEETING A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS ABLE TO
RESTORE HISTORIC BRICK BUILDING AND REPURPOSE IT HERE ON
FRANKLIN STREET.
IT'S THERE TODAY.
THE BUILDINGS AROUND IT BURNED.
THEY WERE DEMOLISHED.
THERE'S NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE TODAY, BUT AGAINST ALL ODDS,
HE WANTED A BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
AND AGAINST EVERYBODY'S OPINION THAT DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT,
HE FOUND AN ENGINEER THAT WAS WILLING TO SAVE THE BUILDING.
THE EXTERIOR IS BRICK AND HE BUILT A NEW BUILDING WITHIN THE
BUILDING.
BUT THE FACADE IS ORIGINAL AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT USED TO BE.

LONG STORY SHORT, I DON'T THINK ENOUGH OF AN EMPHASIS IS PUT
ON PRESERVATION.
IT'S ALWAYS, WELL, WE TRIED TO FIX IT BUT COST PROHIBITIVE.
WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAYS ABOUT KEEPING IT SEPARATE,
WE'RE HERE TO APPROVE GRANTS.
4:04:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
4:04:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOES THAT PROVIDE ANY CLARIFICATION?
I DIDN'T THINK SO.
NO, NO, BUT, NO, BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I'M STILL NOT
UNDERSTANDING, CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE?
4:04:38PM >>DEE REED:
MAYBE I CAN CLARIFY.
THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER -- THE CITY'S HISTORIC,
ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORIC REVIEW, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE
THE DECISION AS TO WHETHER THE BUILDING CAN BE DEMOLISHED OR
NOT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT IS IN QUESTION.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS WHETHER WE WANT TO LIMIT THE REVIEW TO
THAT DECISION.
AS IT STANDS, THESE PROPERTIES DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT
REVIEW.
THEY CAN MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE
REVIEW BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC AND NOT
IN HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THEY CAN IMPROVE THE PROPERTIES WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE

REVIEW.
AS IT STANDS, OUR FUNDS HAVE BEEN TIED TO THIS REVIEW IN AN
ATTEMPT TO TRY TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF THESE DISTRICTS.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS BEYOND THE DEMOLITION QUESTION,
WHICH THAT'S NOT WHAT IS IN QUESTION, DO WE WANT TO ALLOW
THEM TO SPECIFY WHAT KINDS OF MATERIAL CAN BE USED?
HOW THEY CAN IMPROVE THE PROPERTY.
DO WE WANT THEIR REVIEW TO BE ALLOWED TO GO THAT DEEP OR
THAT LEVEL OF REVIEW?
4:05:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE, THE GATOR
BUILDING.
IF WE HAD THE GATOR BUILDING AND THEY CAME -- AND SOMEONE
CAME TO US, SAID IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND CAME TO US AND
SAID WE WANT TO IMPROVE THIS.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THEY WOULD SAY, NO, IT'S NOT
DEMOLITION WORTHY.
SO IN FIXING THIS UP, YOU WOULD NEED TO MAINTAIN --
4:06:11PM >>DEE REED:
PRESERVE THE BUILDING.
4:06:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WOULD NEED TO PRESERVE IT.
4:06:18PM >>DEE REED:
IF THEIR REVIEW FINDINGS ARE THEY CANNOT
DEMOLISH THE BUILDING, IF THEY DON'T AGREE TO PRESERVE THE
BUILDING, THEY CANNOT GET CRA FUNDS.
4:06:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IN SOME CASES, IT MAY NOT BE WORTH SAVING.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT MAKES THAT
DETERMINATION, I GUESS.

SAY THEY DECIDED THE GATOR BUILDING WAS HISTORIC -- I'M
STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS -- AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION
SAID IT NEEDED TO BE PRESERVED, WE WOULD ONLY GIVE MONEY --
SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS, IF WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN
ONLY USE CONCRETE BLOCK SINCE IT WAS BUILT WITH CONCRETE
BLOCK.
4:07:05PM >>DEE REED:
RIGHT.
4:07:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK
AGAIN?
4:07:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK THAT DECISION
SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO WHATEVER THE GOVERNING BODY IS, THE ARC
OR THE BARRIO.
IF IT'S IN ANOTHER AREA, IF THE CITY OR SOME OTHER AGENCY
WANTS TO DO THAT, THEY CAN.
BUT I DON'T THINK THE STAFF, UNLESS WE HAVE SPECIALIZED
STAFF, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.
REMEMBER CHAIR HENDERSON WAS ASKING ABOUT THE WINDOWS,
ALUMINUM VERSUS WOODEN ONES, BIG ISSUE IN THE HISTORIC
PLACES, THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT I THINK WE WOULD
REIMBURSE FOR WINDOWS.
4:07:46PM >>DEE REED:
CORRECT.
4:07:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE DON'T HAVE -- WE CAN'T AFFORD THE STAFF
TIME TO GO THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT'S ALUMINUM
WINDOWS.
THAT'S UP TO THE ARC OR BARRIO TO FIGURE OUT.

WHERE SALCINES PARK IS, THE FAMILY BUILDING WAS THERE, I'M
TOLD BY PEOPLE IN THE '70s, THE REASON WHY IT WAS TORN
DOWN IS BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE THE CITY I THINK
A $20,000 GRANT FOR PARKS.
THERE WERE GRANTS FOR PARKS BUT NOT FOR HISTORIC
PRESERVATION.
THE POINT IN THAT IS IF WE HAVE A GRANT FOR HISTORIC
PRESERVATION, IT HELPS TO PRESERVE MORE BUILDINGS EVEN IF
THEY ARE NOT IN ONE OF THESE PROTECTED AREAS.
4:08:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BOARD MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION?
4:08:31PM >>DEE REED:
THAT HELPS, YES.
4:08:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT HELPS?
4:08:34PM >>DEE REED:
YES.
4:08:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS THE CONSENSUS?
4:08:37PM >>DEE REED:
MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO
SPECIFY THE MATERIALS OR EXACTLY HOW THEY HAVE TO PRESERVE
IT.
IF THE DECISION IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED, THEN THEY
PRESERVE THE BUILDING IF THEY HAVE THE PERMISSION TO
DEMOLISH AND RECONSTRUCT, THEN THEY CAN DO SO.
BUT WE RESTRICT TO THAT EXTENT.
4:08:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS?
4:09:04PM >>DEE REED:
WE NEED A VOTE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.

DO WE NEED AN OFFICIAL VOTE?
YES, WE NEED A VOTE.
4:09:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU CLARIFY HOW YOU WANT US TO SAY THAT?
4:09:20PM >>DEE REED:
WE WOULD LIKE TO -- IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE
BOARD TO INCENTIVIZE IMPROVEMENTS FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE 50
YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER TO LIMIT THE ARCHITECTURAL AND
HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW TO THE DETERMINATION OF
RESTORATION OR RECONSTRUCTION.
4:09:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE THAT.
4:09:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
THIS TAKES CARE OF THIS ITEM.
4:10:02PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:10:06PM >>DEE REED:
THE SECOND GUIDELINE, AS IT READS TODAY, BARS,
LOUNGES, NIGHTCLUBS, AND RESTAURANTS DERIVING MORE THAN 50%
OF THEIR INCOME FROM THE SALE OF ALCOHOL ARE INELIGIBLE FOR
CRA GRANTS.
THE INTENT IS TO LIMIT SUPPORT OF BUSINESS CATEGORIES THAT
COMMONLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONDITIONS OF SLUM AND BLIGHT
WHILE ALSO INCENTIVIZING MORE DIVERSE, UNIQUE, AND
SPECIALIZED BUSINESSES.
THE NEXT TWO QUESTIONS WILL RELATE TO THE SAME GUIDELINE.

QUESTION ONE FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE IS, IS THE BOARD'S
INTENT THAT STAFF REMOVE RESTAURANTS DERIVING MORE THAN 50%
OF THEIR INCOME FROM THE SALE OF ALCOHOL FROM THE LIST OF
INELIGIBLE ESTABLISHMENTS.
4:10:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
4:10:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR ME, A LEGAL BUSINESS IS A LEGAL
BUSINESS.
AND IF THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS LEGALLY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESTORATION OF FACADES, FACADE
GRANTS, REGARDLESS OF THAT BUSINESS, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO
BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS GRANT.
THAT'S KIND OF LIKE -- BLUE LAWS BACK IN THE DAY, 1960'S
BLUE LAWS.
I THINK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WE'VE MOVED PAST THAT.
IF A BUSINESS IS LEGAL, THEY SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE
FACADE GRANTS.
4:11:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD SAY THE MOTION WOULD BE TO
REMOVE THAT STIPULATION OF THE 50% ALCOHOL SALES, REMOVE
THEM FROM THE PROHIBITED LIST TO ALLOW --
4:11:37PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:11:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING.
4:11:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.

ANY DISCUSSION?
4:11:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION IS -- [INAUDIBLE] FACADE GRANT IS
FACADE GRANT.
4:12:01PM >>DEE REED:
WE CANNOT REMOVE THAT RESTRICTION COMPLETELY
BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THE EAST TAMPA CRP.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS TO REMOVE THE RESTAURANTS THAT
DERIVE MORE THAN 50% OF THEIR INCOME.
4:12:14PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:12:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THAT BARS DO CONTRIBUTE TO SLUM AND
BLIGHT.
I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
DO YOU WANT TO GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE?
4:12:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE BUILDING, NOT THE BUSINESS.
4:12:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER BIG ISSUE IT BRINGS UP IS TEN
YEARS FROM NOW, HOW DO WE POLICE WHAT THEY USE A BUILDING
FOR?
4:12:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT BY THEN THEY HAVE ALREADY BEAUTIFIED THE
OUTSIDE.
AND THE OUTSIDE IS WHAT IS GOING TO BRING MORE -- HONESTLY,
A COAT OF PAINT AND A NEW SIGN CAN DO WONDERS FOR A FULL
NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:12:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
4:13:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EXTERIOR GRANTS, NOT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
4:13:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, NO.
WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT EXTERIOR GRANTS.

4:13:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M OKAY WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUT NOT
EXTERIOR GRANTS.
MAYBE WHEN VIERA COMES BACK WE'LL HAVE THE VOTES.
4:13:18PM >>DEE REED:
THE NEXT GUIDELINE IS -- WELL, THE NEXT ITEM IS
THE COMMERCIAL INTERIOR GRANT.
THE INTENT, ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO STIPULATE PRIVATE
INVESTMENT AND REACTIVATE UNDERUTILIZED COMMERCIAL SPACES BY
OFFSETTING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH TENANT CONVERSION AND
IMPROVEMENTS.
THE QUESTION FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE, IS THE BOARD'S INTENT
THAT STAFF PROCEED WITH REVISING THE COMMERCIAL INTERIOR
GRANT TO LIMIT REIMBURSABLE IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE SUPPORTING
BUILDING CODE COMPLIANCE TO ALIGN WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE
CHAPTER 163?
4:13:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD SAY YES.
I THINK HELPING A BUILDING BECOME COMPLIANT SO THAT THEY CAN
HAVE A TENANT IS HUNDRED PERCENT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS
A CRA BOARD.
4:14:11PM >> SECOND.
4:14:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECT?
4:14:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, I APOLOGIZE, HAD I TO STEP OUTSIDE
FOR SOMETHING, THAT WE HAD A 3-1 VOTE, CORRECT?
4:14:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE DIDN'T TAKE A VOTE.
4:14:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN.
4:14:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DOES ANYONE WANT TO RESTATE THE MOTION?
4:14:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE MOTION WAS TO STRIKE THE PROHIBITION
FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF THE 50% FOR RESTAURANTS REGARDING TO
RECEIVING FUNDING, EXTERIOR FACADE GRANTS.
4:14:55PM >>DEE REED:
THIS IS FOR GRANTS PERIOD.
RESTAURANTS THAT DERIVE MORE THAN 50% OF THEIR INCOME,
REMOVING THEM FROM THE PROHIBITION OF RECEIVING CRA GRANTS.
4:15:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[MICROPHONE NOT ON]
4:15:07PM >>DEE REED:
THIS IS GRANTS PERIOD.
CRA GRANTS.
4:15:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FACADE
GRANTS.
4:15:14PM >>DEE REED:
THIS IS POLICY ACROSS THE BOARD.
4:15:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[MICROPHONE NOT ON]
4:15:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHO SECONDED THAT?
4:15:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS?
4:15:26PM >>DEE REED:
THESE ARE NOT ITEMS -- BECAUSE OUR GOAL -- OUR
JOB IS TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE BOARD'S DESIRE IS.
WE DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
4:15:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY HAVE A FEELING FROM STAFF ABOUT
WHAT THE REAL-WORLD IMPLICATIONS OF THIS ARE?

4:15:41PM >>DEE REED:
WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY ONLINE.
WE CAN DEFER TO ATTORNEY SHEPHARD.
4:15:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE WOULD GIVE US A LEGAL OPINION.
4:15:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE HELPFUL.
4:15:54PM >> CARMINE'S RESTAURANT IN YBOR CITY WAS DENIED BECAUSE THEY
DIDN'T FIT BECAUSE OF THIS RULE.
4:16:03PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:16:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER APPARENT DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
4:16:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NAY.
4:16:23PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON STATING NO AND
MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
4:16:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
4:16:31PM >>DEE REED:
THE SECOND QUESTION FOR THAT SAME GUIDELINE IS,
IS IT THE BOARD'S INTENT THAT STAFF INCLUDE LIQUOR STORES,
BEER AND WINE RETAILERS, BREWERIES AND OTHER RETAILER
BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON ALCOHOL BEVERAGE
SALES TO THE LIST OF INELIGIBLE ESTABLISHMENTS?
4:16:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR GRANT PERIOD.
4:16:57PM >>DEE REED:
CORRECT.
4:16:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS?
4:17:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD JUST MAKE IT TO
SUPPORT EXTERIOR GRANTS?

BECAUSE TO ME, A LIQUOR STORE IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM A
BREWERY.
LIKE, SOMEONE --
4:17:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE] STILL SUPPORT IT IF THEY WERE
BEAUTIFYING THE BUILDING.
4:17:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF THERE WAS A WAY --
4:17:28PM >>DEE REED:
CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
THE ONLY OTHER GRANT THAT REALLY -- WELL, OTHER THAN
PREDEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE INTERIOR GRANT,
AND WE JUST VOTED TO REVISE THE INTERIOR GRANT SO THAT WE'RE
ONLY BRINGING BUILDINGS UP TO CODE.
IF OUR INTENT, AS WE MENTIONED, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THE
BUILDING TO CODE AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE THE
BUILDING, NO MATTER WHAT BUSINESS IS THERE, IT'S A LEGAL
BUSINESS.
I THINK IF YOU APPLY THE SAME CONCEPT.
4:17:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE TO SUPPORT IT JUST BASED ON THE
BLACK-AND-WHITE LETTER OF LAW IN THAT REGARD.
I STILL BELIEVE THAT IF SOMEONE IS PUTTING TIME AND MONEY
INTO A PROPERTY, IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:18:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL SECOND THAT.
4:18:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY MOTION IS, YES, THAT I WOULD SUPPORT
STRIKING.
4:18:28PM >>DEE REED:
NOT ADDING THOSE USES.
4:18:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.

4:18:33PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
4:18:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU REPEAT?
4:18:38PM >>DEE REED:
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR MOTION IS TO NOT ADD LIQUOR
STORES, BEER AND WINE RETAILERS, BREWERIES, AND OTHER RETAIL
BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES TO THE LIST OF INELIGIBLE ESTABLISHMENTS.
4:18:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
THAT IS MY MOTION.
4:18:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:19:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THESE ARE GUIDELINES,
AND THIS BOARD CAN CHANGE THOSE GUIDELINES AT ANY POINT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON -- I THINK THAT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO STATE.
WHILE WE CAN BE A LITTLE CONCERNED, IF THERE BECOMES A
PROBLEM, IF A NEIGHBORHOOD REGRESSES, WE CAN REVISIT.
4:19:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
4:19:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NAY.
4:19:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW MANY MORE DO WE HAVE, MA'AM?
4:19:41PM >>DEE REED:
JUST ONE MORE.
4:19:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GO FOR IT.

4:19:43PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON STATING NO AND
MIRANDA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
4:19:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
4:19:55PM >>DEE REED:
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SPECIAL PROJECTS GRANT IN
THE EVENT THE PROPERTY IS SOLD OR TRANSFERRED TO A PROPERTY,
TAX-EXEMPT GOVERNMENTAL, OR -- SORRY, OR NOT FOR PROFIT
ENTITY WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF THE DISBURSEMENT OF GRANT FUNDS,
THE GRANT RECIPIENT WILL REIMBURSE THE TCRA, A PRO RATA
PORTION OF THE GRANT FOR THE NUMBER OF MONTHS REMAINING IN
THE FIVE-YEAR TERM.
THE INTENT WAS TO ENFORCE RETENTION AND MAINTENANCE OF
IMPROVEMENTS FUNDED WITH CRA RESOURCES.
THE QUESTION FOR THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTE IS, IS IT
THE BOARD'S INTENT TO REMOVE THE PRORATION LANGUAGE FROM THE
REPAYMENT REQUIREMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE RESTRICTIVE
COVENANTS?
4:20:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF WE REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT, THEY HAVE TO
PAY ALL OF THE MONEY BACK.
4:20:51PM >>DEE REED:
CORRECT.
WITHIN THE RESTRICTED PERIOD.
4:20:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
QUITE FRANKLY, IN FIVE YEARS, YES, I WANT
THAT MONEY BACK.
FIVE YEARS?
TEN YEARS, SURE, WE CAN TALK PRORATION.

FIVE YEARS, THAT'S WAY TOO LITTLE.
4:21:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
4:21:09PM >>DEE REED:
CLARIFY, ANYTHING OVER 150,000 DOES GET A
TEN-YEAR RESTRICTION.
IF WE WANT TO SEPARATE THAT, WE CAN DO THAT.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW.
4:21:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THAT IS FINE.
4:21:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
4:21:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AFTER FIVE YEARS PRORATE WOULD BE JUST
OVERALL.
I THINK FIVE YEARS SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM.
IF WE'RE DOING THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, WE SHOULD
ABSOLUTELY BE DOING IT FOR COMMERCIAL.
4:21:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO WE HAVE A MOTION IN THAT REGARD?
4:21:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE US TO WORD THAT MOTION?
4:21:39PM >>DEE REED:
YOU COULD SAY, TO REMOVE THE PRORATION LANGUAGE
FROM THE REPAYMENT REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
RESTRICTED COVENANTS FOR THE FIVE -- FROM THE FIVE-YEAR
RESTRICTED COVENANTS ONLY.
4:21:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
4:21:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
4:22:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHEN WE PASSED THIS LANGUAGE, HOW DOES
THAT IMPACT THE TEN-YEAR?
IS THE TEN-YEAR PRORATED AFTER FIVE?

4:22:08PM >>DEE REED:
TEN-YEAR RESTRICTED -- OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING.
IF WE KEEP THE PRORATION IN THE TEN YEAR, FOR THE FIRST, IF
THEY SELL WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, IT'S NOT PRORATED.
FROM YEARS FIVE THROUGH TEN IT WOULD BE PRORATED.
WE JUST NEED TO REVISE THAT WORDING IN THE AGREEMENT.
4:22:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, DO YOU WISH -- RESTATE IT FOR BOARD
MEMBER MIRANDA.
THANK YOU, SIR.
JUST MAKING SURE.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYTHING ELSE, MR. McCRAY FOR TODAY?
4:22:52PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
VERY BRIEFLY FOR THE RECORD, I DID HAND THE
CLERK 71 LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE PRESENTATION OF THE
PRESENTER FROM URBAN REWORX.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS REFLECTED IN THE RECORD.
4:23:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.

WE APPRECIATE ALL OF STAFF'S DILIGENCE AND PATIENCE TODAY.
GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
4:23:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
4:23:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO THIS JOB PERMANENTLY.
4:23:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
QUOTE BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, YOU WERE BORN
TO RUN.
4:23:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY, BOARD MEMBERS, MOTIONS, BOARD MEMBER
CARLSON.
4:23:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
4:23:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, VERY QUICKLY.
I WOULD ASK THAT CRA STAFF WORK WITH PARKS AND REC ON
DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURES AT BORRELL PARK CLOSE TO
NEBRASKA AVENUE.
I'D LIKE A WRITTEN REPORT BY JULY 24.
IF THAT IS TOO SOON, I'M ALSO AMENABLE TO AUGUST 21st.
WOULD YOU PREFER?
AUGUST 21st OF 2025.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE.
PARKS AND REC IDEALLY WOULD HAVE SOMETHING, BUT WE WANT
THOSE STRUCTURES DOWN SOON.
4:24:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?

ANY DISCUSSION?
TOO LATE.
ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
4:24:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
4:24:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M SO SORRY.
4:24:20PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA, I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE
HAD A MOTION.
4:24:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I GO LAST.
4:24:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
FIRST, HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO THE FATHERS.
I SEE A COUPLE UP HERE AND IN THE AUDIENCE.
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO YOU.
MY FIRST MOTION, I SPOKE WITH MR. McCRAY, SPOKE WITH THE
FOLKS FROM HOPE WHICH I KNOW WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
THIS IS REGARDS TO CONTINUING THE COMMITMENT I MADE TO THE
STORMWATER PONDS IN EAST TAMPA.
I'D LIKE TO ALLOCATE $500,000 IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET FROM
THE EAST TAMPA CRA TO GO TOWARDS THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE
WILLIAMS STREET POND, CHELSEA STREET POND, BAY STREET POND,
AND THEN THE 40th STREET AND 19th AVENUE PONDS.
THEY ARE BOTH ON EACH SIDE OF 40th.
I CHECKED WITH MR. McCRAY ABOUT MONEY FUNDING.
I'VE SPOKEN TO HOPE.
JUST SO WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON THESE COMMITMENTS AND TAKE IT
FROM THERE.

4:25:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ANY DISCUSSION?
4:25:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLARIFICATION, AS ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THE
BUDGET AND --
4:25:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, I CLEARED IT WITH MR. McCRAY.
4:25:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE?
4:25:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ONE MORE ITEM, FRED HEARNS WAS HERE THIS
MORNING.
HE HAD MENTIONED AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS IS THE FIRST
I'VE HEARD OF IT, REGARDING BUILDING AN AMPHITHEATER OR LIKE
A BAND SHELL AT PERRY HARVEY PARK.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER,
BOARD MEMBER HENDERSON WAS WORKING ON, BUT I MENTIONED IT
BRIEFLY TO MR. McCRAY.
IF I COULD JUST HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT TO SEE -- HE'S GOT TO
TALK TO TONY MULKEY AND EVERYTHING.
SINCE IT IS WITHIN THE ENCORE CRA, ESSENTIALLY, IF WE COULD
GET A WRITTEN REPORT ON NOVEMBER 13, I HOPE THAT IS ENOUGH
TIME.
4:26:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WASN'T GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE I'M HERE FOR ANOTHER YEAR
AND A HALF.
I SUGGEST SOMEONE DO IT.
GLAD YOU ARE.
IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ADDITION PROSPECTIVELY TO THE PARK
WHICH IS A SPECIAL PARK.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER
MIRANDA.
ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
4:26:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, THANK YOU.
4:26:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:26:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NONE, SIR.
4:26:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
VERY BRIEFLY, MR. McCRAY HAD HANDED ME A
REPORT FOR $135,532.21 FOR THE DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE
IMPROVEMENTS AT WATER WORKS PARK.
THEREFORE HE WISHES FOR ME TO MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO --
WOULD IT BE TO APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS?
4:27:11PM >> YES.
4:27:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FROM WHICH CRA.
4:27:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT IS TAMPA HEIGHTS.
4:27:15PM >> YES, IT IS.

4:27:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FROM THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CRA.
4:27:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE-CHAIR VIERA AND
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
ANY COMMENTS?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
4:27:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT.
I HAD ANOTHER MOTION I WOULD MAKE.
SAVE IT FOR NEXT MONTH.
4:27:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
4:27:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY MANISCALCO AND SECOND BY CARLSON?
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'LL SEE YOU IN SIX MINUTES.
4:27:50PM >> YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME.
32 MINUTES.

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