📝 City Council Meeting Transcript

TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JUNE 26, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:01:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE THE INVOCATION.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I WANTED -- WE WEREN'T HERE WITH
THE PASSING OF MINNESOTA SENATOR MELISSA HORTMAN AND HER
HUSBAND AND THEIR DOG IN A POLITICAL ASSASSINATION.
I JUST THINK THAT AS WE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE, IF WE
COULD THINK ABOUT HER FAMILY AND MINNEAPOLIS AND MINNESOTA
AND ALL OF US AS WE CONSIDER THE HEINOUSNESS OF THAT ACT.
9:02:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVERYBODY RISE, PLEASE.
MOMENT OF SILENCE.
[MOMENT OF SILENCE]
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE?
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:03:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:03:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:03:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:03:03AM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?

9:03:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:03:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:03:06AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:03:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR SESSION HELD ON JUNE 5 AND EVENING
SESSION ON JUNE 12.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
LET'S DO AN AGENDA REVIEW.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW CHANGES.
ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGENDA TO ADD
THE ELECTION OF CHAIR PRO TEM AS FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE BOARD APPOINTMENTS.
I BELIEVE WE NEED TO REMOVE ITEM 70 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THAT, PLEASE?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ANYBODY WANT TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?
9:04:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA, WHO IS
ONLY MOMENTS AWAY -- OH, SPEAK OF THE DEVIL, AND HE SHALL
APPEAR.
I KNOW HE NEEDED TO REMOVE ITEM 1.
BUT I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.
9:04:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:04:22AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, THANK YOU.
PARDON MY BEING LATE.
THANK YOU.
WE DO NEED TO REMOVE ITEM 1, IF WE MAY.
KAREN CLAY HAD A CONFLICT.
9:04:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ITEM 1 IS REMOVED.
9:04:39AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD OUT 25 FOR A SEPARATE
VOTE, PLEASE.
9:04:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO PULL 25
FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:04:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEMS 47 AND 48 FOR
DISCUSSION.
9:05:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO PULL
ITEMS 47 AND 48 FOR DISCUSSION.
IS THERE A SECOND?
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
9:05:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AFTER ADMINISTRATIVE
UPDATE.
9:05:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMOVE 47 AND 48 TO AFTER ADMINISTRATIVE
UPDATE.
9:05:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:05:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE
ITEMS 47 AND 48 FOR DISCUSSION --
9:05:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS THE SAME THING.
GENERALLY THAT'S WHAT WE DO WHEN WE PULL THEM.
IT'S NOT A SEPARATE VOTE.
IT'S A DISCUSSION.
9:05:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.
OKAY.

GOOD.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE AGENDA THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE
CHANGED?
LET'S DO STAFF REPORTS.
WE DO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
DURING THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, CHIEF BENNETT HAS ADVISED
HE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS 101.
FOR ITEM 94, WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. ROGERO AND MS. DUNCAN.
9:06:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
9:06:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
NUMBER 95, MEMO FROM MS. DUNCAN.
AMOUNT EXCEEDS, MECHANICAL SERVICE -- ANY DISCUSSION?
9:06:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
9:06:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THAT'S FOR 95, NO DISCUSSION.
96.
9:06:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OBVIOUSLY, WE REQUESTED THE FIRE CHIEF FOR
THIS ONE AS WELL AS FOR 97 BE HERE IN PERSON.
OBVIOUSLY, NOTE SHE WILL BE.
I SENT A MEMO AS WELL ASKING FOR FORMAL TIME FOR LOCAL 754
ON THESE ITEMS AS WELL IF I MAY.
9:06:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I BELIEVE CHIEF TRIPP WILL BE HERE FOR 96
AND 97.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO ALLOW NICK STOCCO TO SPEAK

DURING THIS TIME.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
9:07:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS WILL BE IN THE AFTERNOON, RIGHT?
9:07:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE AYES HAVE IT.
WE'LL EXPECT A PRESENTATION FROM BOTH CHIEF TRIPP AND THE
PRESIDENT OF THE 954, MR. STOCCO.
98, WE DEFINITELY NEED MR. ROGERO FOR THAT.
99, BRANDON, MOBILITY.
YES.
MS. KOPESKY, BUDGET ANALYST, PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION FROM
THE BUDGET.
9:07:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:07:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, OKAY.
101.
9:07:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU ARE MOVING THAT UP TO ADMINISTRATIVE
UPDATE.
9:07:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, IF NO FURTHER CHANGES.
9:08:02AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DID YOU NEED STAFF FOR THAT DISCUSSION
OR JUST A COUNCIL DISCUSSION?
9:08:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE STAFF HERE.
IT'S GOING TO BE A COMBINATION.

STAFF IS WELCOME.
IF THEY JUST WANT TO BE ONLINE, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE IN
PERSON.
IT'S A BROADER DISCUSSION THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO HAVE ALL
WEEK ABOUT TREES AND THE NEW TREE ORDINANCE AND OLD TREE
ORDINANCE.
YES, I WANTED TO DISCUSS IT WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
YEAH, IF THEY WANT TO BE ONLINE.
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE IN PERSON.
9:08:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM 102,
PLEASE.
9:08:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
9:08:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
WE RECEIVED AND FILED 102.
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, PLEASE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, A SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
A MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE, BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY WITH
FILLING VACANCIES, COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD IT BE YOUR INTENT

TO DISCUSS AND ELECT CRA BUSINESS TODAY.
THE CLERK IS HERE THIS MORNING.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD AFTER THE PRO TEM
ELECTION, TO ADD CRA ELECTION.
9:09:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY, YES, SIR.
9:09:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO HAVE THE
CRA CHAIR AND PRO TEM ELECTION AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL PRO
TEM ELECTION THIS MORNING.
IS THERE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID WE'LL MOVE INTO ELECTION.
I SEE THAT OUR CLERK, SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES IS HERE.
MADAM CLERK, I GIVE YOU THE FLOOR.
9:10:01AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND HONORABLE
COUNCIL.
I'M HERE TO CONDUCT THE ELECTION -- SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES,
CITY CLERK.
I'M HERE TO CONDUCT THE ELECTION FOR THE CHAIR PRO TEM.
IS THERE A NOMINATION?
9:10:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I NOMINATE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:10:28AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
HURTAK HAS BEEN NOMINATED.
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?

9:10:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:10:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I RESPECTFULLY DECLINE.
THANK YOU.
9:10:39AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
ALL IN FAVOR, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALL RIGHT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
9:10:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
9:10:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HAVE ONE MORE WORD.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:11:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO YOU ALL.
THANKS TO YOU ALL.
9:11:04AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CRA CHAIR.
IS THERE A NOMINATION?
9:11:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I NOMINATE COUNCILWOMAN LYNN HURTAK.
9:11:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DECLINE, BUT THANK YOU.
I NOMINATE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:11:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
9:11:26AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION?
9:11:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THOUGHT IT AUTOMATICALLY WENT TO YOU.
YOU DON'T WANT IT?
9:11:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MEAN, HOW SHALL I SAY THIS?
I HAVE A LOT ON MY PLATE RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING CHAIRMAN OF
HART.
HOW ABOUT THIS, GUYS?

I'LL DO IT FOR -- LET'S SAY THIS.
WE HAVE AN ELECTION FOR DISTRICT 5 THAT'S COMING UP.
I ALWAYS THINK IT'S PROPER IN MANY CASES TO HAVE THE
COUNCILPERSON OF DISTRICT 5 BE THE CHAIRPERSON OF CRA.
HOW ABOUT, IF I MAY, I'LL AGREE TO ACCEPT THIS WITH THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT ONCE THAT PERSON COMES IN WE RECONSIDER.
IS THAT A GOOD COMPROMISE?
THEN I HEREBY ACCEPT UNDER THOSE LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES.
9:12:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ARE YOU A LAWYER BY CHANCE?
9:12:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I AM.
I'M A MEDIATOR.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:12:17AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
CONGRATULATIONS.
9:12:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
9:12:22AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
WE'LL NOW HAVE THE NOMINATION FOR
VICE-CHAIR OF THE CRA.
IS THERE A NOMINATION?
9:12:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I NOMINATE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:12:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS FULL.
9:12:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL DO THAT TOO.
THAT'S FINE.
DOUBLE VICE-CHAIR.
9:12:49AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
OKAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
9:12:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN.

9:13:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
9:13:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU ALL ARE GOING TO SEE US PUT THESE ON.
THESE ARE FIGURES THAT REPRESENT BLACK HISTORY THAT THE LATE
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WOULD OFTEN HAVE ON.
I HAVE PRESIDENT OBAMA.
WE ALSO HAVE HERE I BELIEVE FREDERICK DOUGLASS, HARRIET
TUBMAN, AMONG OTHERS, DIFFERENT FOLKS.
9:13:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
KAMALA HARRIS.
9:13:29AM >> VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS, JESSE JACKSON, AMONG
OTHERS.
WE'RE WEARING THAT TODAY FOR THE WAIT COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON.
SHE WOULD ALWAYS WEAR THESE FIGURES.
I PICKED PRESIDENT OBAMA.
THERE YOU GO.
THANK YOU.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE ON.
9:13:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA GOT THEM FOR US, BUT I
BELIEVE YOU CAN BUY THEM AT BLACK ENGLISH BOOKSTORE.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO BUY SOME AND SUPPORT COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON'S FAMILY, YOU CAN BUY THEM AT BLACK ENGLISH.
9:14:06AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
WE HAVE HURTAK AS CHAIR PRO TEM.
VIERA AS CRA CHAIR.
HURTAK AGAIN AS CRA VICE-CHAIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:14:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO COMMENDATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.
ITEM 1 HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 2.
THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE NATALIE HERNANDEZ.
I BELIEVE THIS WAS INITIATED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:14:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST A MOMENT.
I WAS GOING TO DO IT FROM THERE.
THANK YOU.
IT'S BETTER OVER HERE SO WE'RE ALL ON CAMERA TOGETHER.
9:15:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ALL LOOK GOOD ON CAMERA.
9:15:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WORE A TIE TODAY BECAUSE SENATOR
ARTHENIA JOYNER SAID I NEED TO START WEARING A TIE AGAIN.
I DON'T SAY NO TO THE SENATOR.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS
PRESIDENT, MAYOR NANCY MILLER OF DAYTONA BEACH SHORES.
WELCOME TO TAMPA.
WE HOPE YOU ARE ENJOYING YOUR STAY HERE.
FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JEFF BRANCH.
MAYOR MILLER WILL BE PRESENTING AND INTRODUCING NATALIE
HERNANDEZ, WHO PLACED THIRD IN THE "IF I WERE ELECTED MAYOR"
ESSAY COMPETITION.
NATALIE PLACED THIRD OUT OF WAS IT 1900?
1,900 ESSAYS.
YOU'RE LOCAL, RIGHT?

SO WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF YOU.
WE'RE GLAD TO BE HERE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HONOR YOU.
MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT AWAY.
9:16:05AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE THANK MAYOR CASTOR FOR HAVING US IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.
A SPECIAL SHOUT-OUT TO OUR VOLUSIA LEAGUE OF CITIES BOARD
MEMBER LUIS VIERA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS NANCY MILLER.
I AM THE MAYOR OF DAYTONA BEACH SHORES.
I'M PRESIDENT OF FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS.
ON BEHALF OF THE 411 MAYORS WHO MAKE UP OUR ORGANIZATION, I
AM HONORED TO BE HERE TO RECOGNIZE AN EXCEPTIONAL YOUNG
LEADER FROM YOUR COMMUNITY, NATALIE HERNANDEZ.
NATALIE IS AN 8th GRADE STUDENT AT HENDERSON HAMMOCK
CHARTER SCHOOL.
NATALIE IS THE THIRD PLACE WINNER OF THE STATEWIDE "IF I
WERE ELECTED MAYOR" ESSAY CONTEST.
THIS IS AN INITIATIVE PRESENTED ANNUALLY BY THE FLORIDA
LEAGUE OF MAYORS AND THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.
THE PURPOSE OF THE CONTEST IS TO ENCOURAGE FLORIDA'S YOUTH
TO ENVISION THEMSELVES AS MAYORS AND SHARE THEIR IDEAS FOR

IMPROVING THEIR CITY, THEIR TOWN, AND THEIR VILLAGE.
THIS YEAR, WE RECEIVED MORE THAN 1900 ESSAYS FROM STUDENTS
ACROSS THE STATE.
FROM THAT NUMBER, NATALIE'S ESSAY STOOD OUT FOR ITS
CREATIVITY, ITS THOUGHTFULNESS, AND CLEAR COMMITMENT TO HER
COMMUNITY.
I JUST WANT TO PICK OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT NATALIE
SAID.
SHE WANTED TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE, EDUCATION WAS A KEY
ASPECT.
SHE TALKED ABOUT ECONOMIC GROWTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL
SUSTAINABILITY.
HER VISION WOULD BE CENTERING ON A THRIVING, INCLUSIVE,
SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY WHERE ALL RESIDENTS CAN PROSPER.
NATALIE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR YOU AS THE
THIRD-PLACE WINNER, YOU WILL RECEIVE $250 GIFT CARD AND A
JOINT RESOLUTION AND OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HAS THAT FOR
YOU.
THAT IS FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND THE FLORIDA
LEAGUE OF MAYORS.
YOU WILL ALSO BE HIGHLIGHTED IN A STATEWIDE NEWS RELEASE
FEATURED IN QUALITY CITIES ONLINE MAGAZINE.
AND YOU WILL BE RECOGNIZED ON THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS
WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.
NATALIE, WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU.

YOUR ESSAY SHOWS US THAT THE FUTURE OF FLORIDA IS VERY
BRIGHT.
THANK YOU AGAIN, CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR YOUR WARM
WELCOME AND FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF CIVIC EDUCATION
AND YOUTH ENGAGEMENT.
WE ARE HAVING A THREE-DAY MEETING HERE.
TODAY WE'LL BE IN TAMPA FOR OUR FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS
REGIONAL, AND THEN TOMORROW WE'RE GOING ON TO CLEARWATER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WELCOMING US.
I WAS HERE LAST WEEK WITH THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF MAYORS.
YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CITY HERE.
THANK YOU AGAIN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NATALIE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
I THINK YOU SHOULD SPEAK.
9:19:16AM >> THIS IS UNEXPECTED, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
WHENEVER I WROTE THAT ESSAY, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THINGS
THAT AS A STUDENT THAT I FIND LIKE A STRUGGLE IN MY EVERYDAY
LIFE AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE FOR, LIKE, MEMBERS OF OUR
COUNCIL AS THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL THESE ISSUES AND SOLVE
THEM.
I SPOKE FROM WHAT I THOUGHT NEEDED TO BE IMPROVED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING ME.
THIS MEANS SO MUCH.
9:19:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S INCREDIBLE.

CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:19:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WONDER IF YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE
SPEECH OR THE ESSAY THAT WE COULD RECEIVE AND FILE INTO THE
FILE HERE.
DO YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE ESSAY?
IF SOMEBODY HAS A COPY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
RECEIVE AND FILE IT SO IT WILL BE IN THE SPECIAL RECORD.
9:20:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION THERE COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
FROM HURTAK TO RECEIVE AND FILE A COPY OF THE ESSAY.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE THE NEXT ITEM.
9:20:25AM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
9:20:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR STAY IN TAMPA.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:20:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COME ON UP.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW.
IN RECOGNITION OF YEARS OF DEDICATED VOLUNTEER SERVICE AS
CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
AND ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE PROUD TO
RECOGNIZE AND COMMEND A FEW SPECIAL INDIVIDUALS.

I'LL START OFF WITH MR. PAUL ERNI, 30 YEARS OF SERVICE,
APPOINTED BY MAYOR SANDY FREEDMAN.
WE HAVE LAURA WARE WHO WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY, 21 YEARS
OF SERVICE.
WE HAVE RICHARD REAVIS, 17 YEARS OF SERVICE.
AND ALEX DUNMIRE FOR 14 YEARS OF SERVICE FOR THEIR
OUTSTANDING VOLUNTEER SERVICE AS CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
MAGISTRATES.
ALL OF THEM EXEMPLIFY THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF INTEGRITY,
DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM IN THEIR ROLE, MAKING
INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE WITHOUT COMPENSATION,
THEY SELFLESSLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY, DEMONSTRATING AN
UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO THE PRINCIPLES OF JUSTICE AND
FAIRNESS.
THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE HAVE HAD A LONG-LASTING, POSITIVE
IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.
IT IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S HONOR TO PRESENT THESE
COMMENDATIONS, WHICH LISA WILL BRING UP, TO PAUL, RICHARD,
ALEX AND LAURA, LAURA WHO COULD NOT BE WITH US TODAY, ON
THIS 26th DAY OF JUNE, 2025.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?

9:22:13AM >> I'LL KEEP IT SHORT BECAUSE MY PARKING IS ONLY UNTIL 9:
32.
I CAN SEE I GET AN AWARD AND THEN GET A TICKET.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE AS HEARING MASTER.
I WANT TO THANK MY GOOD FRIENDS FOR COMING.
WANT TO THANK WENDY AND MY PARENTS.
AND THAT'S IT.
9:22:42AM >> THANK YOU.
HARD TO REALIZE LOOKING AT ME I'M THE BABY OF THE GROUP BY A
NUMBER OF YEARS IT SEEMS.
9:22:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LIKE YOUR HAIR CUT.
9:22:51AM >> THANK YOU, YES.
MODEL IT AFTER YOURS, SIR.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT 14 YEARS BEING ABLE TO SERVE THE CITY AND
HELP OUT THE CITIZENS.
I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE IT 14 YEARS IF IT WASN'T FOR WENDY.
GREAT CITY EMPLOYEE.
WHEN WE SCREW UP, SHE LETS US KNOW IT QUICKLY.
WENDY, THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS.
THANK YOU.
9:23:24AM >> I'M GOOD.
THEY'VE SAID EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.
9:23:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WOULD LIKE TO
SAY SOMETHING.
9:23:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU TO PAUL, LAURA, RICHARD, ALEX.

81 YEARS SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME.
TO YOU FELLOWS AND LADIES, IT WAS A PART OF YOUR HISTORY,
YOUR LIFE THAT YOU WANT TO DEDICATE TO PEOPLE THAT HAD SOME
MINOR PROBLEMS WITH A SYSTEM THAT WAS IN PLACE.
I CAN ONLY SAY THERE WAS A GLITCH, BUT NO ONE'S FAULT.
IT WAS OUR FAULT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A BACKUP IN THE
SYSTEM WITHIN THE FOUR INDIVIDUALS.
THERE WASN'T A FIFTH OR SIXTH THAT WE COULD CALL IN.
YOU FOUR HAVE DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB FOR TOTAL OF 81 YEARS
COMBINED.
WE, THE COUNCIL, THE CITY OF TAMPA, NEVER GOING TO FORGET
THAT.
LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
NOT ONLY WAS YOUR JOB DONE RIGHT, CORRECTLY, IT WAS DONE
WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS FORGOTTEN.
THAT IS THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAVE CRISIS.
MOST PEOPLE WHO COME BEFORE YOU WERE ALREADY IN A CRISIS
BEFORE THEY GOT HERE.
THE WAY YOU FOUR HANDLE IT WAS WAY ABOVE THE CALL OF DUTY.
YOU DID IT WITH GLAMOUR BUT WITHOUT FRICTION.
GLAMOUR DOESN'T MEAN HAPPINESS.
GLAMOUR MEANS WHAT YOU DID WAS SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITHOUT
GLAMORIZING YOUR POSITION AND SAYING YOU HAVE A $500 FINE.
YOU DID YOUR JOB TO GET WHATEVER WAS NEEDED, TO GET
CORRECTED, CORRECTED FIRST AND A FINE SECOND.

NOT A FINE FIRST AND CORRECT IT LATER.
TODAY'S PUBLIC AND NO MATTER WHAT PART OF THE COUNTRY YOU
LIVE IN, BECAUSE OF WARS, ANTICIPATION OF WARS, ANTICIPATION
OF INFLATION, ANTICIPATION OF GUNSHOTS ON THE STREET,
ANTICIPATION OF PEOPLE GOING OUT WITHOUT A GUN PERMIT, SO
MANY THINGS THAT ARE IN THE PEOPLE'S MINDS.
HURRICANES COMING THROUGH.
LOOK AT THE WHOLE UNITED STATES, NOT ONLY THIS AREA WHERE
YOU LIVE IN, WHERE WE ALL LIVE IN.
LOOK WHAT HAPPENS IN KENTUCKY, IN NORTH CAROLINA, IN
VIRGINIA, IN OHIO.
THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS SCREWED UP AS FAR AS THE ENVIRONMENT.
THESE THINGS ARE NOT COMING UP BECAUSE WE WANTED THEM TO
HAPPEN.
COMING UP BECAUSE WE SCREWED IT UP OURSELVES FOR A HUNDRED
YEARS OF ABUSE.
WE'RE PAYING THE PRICE.
YOU FELLOWS, ALL FOUR OF YOU HAVE DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB.
I CAN ONLY SAY, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO MY COUNCIL
MEMBERS AND THEY CAN'T SPEAK TO ME, BUT I LIKE TO SEE THE
SYSTEM REVERSE, GO BACK TO WHAT WE HAD WITH ONE OR TWO
EXTRAS OR ALTERNATE INDIVIDUALS IN YOUR POSITION WHICH WE
DID NOT HAVE.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
JUST LIKE COUNCIL, WHERE WE HAVE AN EMPTY CHAIR THAT'S

MISSING, WONDERFUL LADY, YEOMAN'S JOB, SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,
DID A LOT OF GOOD FOR THE CITY, PASSED AWAY AS YOU WELL NOW.
NOW THERE IS A SPECIAL ELECTION.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION IN YOUR CASE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, IF IT COMES BACK, I HOPE THIS COUNCIL
BRINGS IT BACK, TO A CIVIL UNDERSTANDING OF EYE-TO-EYE
CONTACT AND SOLVING THE PROBLEM FIRST, THE MONEY IS SECOND.
WE DON'T NEED THE MONEY.
WE NEED THE THINGS FIXED FIRST.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGEOUS WORK, DILIGENT WORK, SHOWING
UP EVERY DAY AND DOING WHAT YOU DID FOR 81 YEARS.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:48AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK,
AND SULING.
WE ALSO HAVE RECOGNITIONS.
9:27:00AM >> WE CANNOT LET YOU WALK AWAY WITHOUT US, THE CITY CLERK'S
OFFICE, SHOWING OUR APPRECIATION.
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE HOW MUCH TIME YOU ALL PUT IN TO
BEING A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH COVERAGE.
YOU ALL WERE ALWAYS WILLING TO TAKE YOUR TIME AND TO HELP US
OUT.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
RICHARD, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALEX, THANK YOU.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:27:47AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT WAS GREAT TO WORK WITH YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:27:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WE'LL PAUSE FOR ONE MOMENT.
9:28:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I WISH MY WIFE A HAPPY
BIRTHDAY?
9:28:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR
ANOTHER CEREMONIAL PROCEDURE.
9:28:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO WISH MY WIFE A VERY,
VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
HER NAME IS VALERIE.
9:28:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU SHOULD SING IT TO HER.
9:28:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, I'LL SING IT LATER.
SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY WIFE.
9:28:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE COUNCILMAN VIERA SING
IT.
9:28:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
OH, MY GOD.
9:28:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE NOW MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'LL START WITH OUR VIRTUAL SPEAKERS FIRST.
THE FIRST PERSON IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, ARE YOU ONLINE?

STEPHANIE POYNOR, WOULD YOU PLEASE MUTE YOUR TELEVISION OR
WHATEVER YOU ARE WATCHING THIS ON AND WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE
YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THIS ESTEEMED CITY COUNCIL?
OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT HER ON MUTE AND MOVE ON TO MICHAEL
RANDOLPH.
9:29:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THREE THINGS QUICKLY TODAY.
I WANT TO OFFER MY SUPPORT AND EXPERTISE TO HELP THE
COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY-DRIVEN INITIATIVE FROM THE BOTTOM UP TO FOCUS ON
TRANSFORMING THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS FROM WITHIN.
AS I EXPLAINED TO THE CONVERSATION WITH THE LOCAL LEADERS
THERE, IF YOU DON'T CONTROL THE PROCESS, THE PROCESS WILL
CONTROL YOU.
GUIDED BY THE WEST TAMPA CDC MODEL, I'M COMMITTED TO
COOPERATING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND SHAREHOLDERS TO COCREATE
A COMPREHENSIVE FRAMEWORK THAT ADDRESSES THE ECONOMIC,
SOCIAL, AND FISCAL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO REVITALIZE THE
COMMUNITY.
THIS INCLUDES ADVANCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EXPANDING
WORKFORCE AND THE SOCIAL FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY
INTENTIONALLY.
IN ADDITION TO WORKING WITH THEM TO GET FUNDING AS WELL AS

PROVIDE THEM WITH A SYSTEM IN PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR
COMMUNITY PLAN.
THANK YOU.
9:30:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:30:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:30:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:30:57AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT NUMBER 66 IS ANOTHER THINLY VEILED
ATTEMPT OF TAKING AWAY POWER FROM CITY COUNCIL AND GIVING IT
TO STAFF, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS HEALTHY FOR OUR CITY.
I BELIEVE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THE
LAND THAT WE OWN BEING BOUGHT AND SOLD, WHETHER YOU CALL IT
A RIGHT-OF-WAY OR EASEMENT, I THINK THAT DECISION BELONGS TO
CITY COUNCIL.
NUMBER 81, SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR STORMWATER.
YOU KNOW I STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH HOW OUR STORMWATER FUNDS
ARE SPENT.
NUMBER 99, NICE TO SEE THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT FINALLY
FOUND SOG AND DID A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF WORK.
HOPE THEY CLEAR INTERBAY AND MANHATTAN BECAUSE WE HAD ABOUT
THREE FEET OF WATER THERE AFTER MILTON.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT NUMBER 94, ASHLEY DRIVE NEEDS
TO COME COMPLETELY OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
IT SHOULD NOT BE PAID FOR BY GENERAL FUNDS.
THE WHOLE POINT OF A CRA IS TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY -- SLUM
AND BLIGHT, IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES, AND ASHLEY DRIVE
PROJECT DOES ALL OF THAT.
NOT ONE PENNY OF IT SHOULD COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
YOU KNOW WHAT, IS IF AN EMPLOYEE IS DOING SOMETHING THAT IS
CONSIDERED TO BE INAPPROPRIATE BY ANYONE, THE JUDGMENT ON
WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE DEEMED INAPPROPRIATE OR NOT SHOULD BE
DONE BY THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
WE HAVE AN ETHICS COMMITTEE.
WHY HASN'T SOME OF THE MOST RECENT THINGS BEEN SENT TO THE
ETHICS COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND LET THEM MAKE THE DECISION?
THERE ARE A BUNCH OF SMART PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE AND
SHOULD BE UTILIZED MORE ACCURATELY.
LIKE TO THANK, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN FOR
MAKING SURE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE WENT FIRST.
THANK YOU.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
9:33:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR ONLINE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REVIEW THE COUNCIL RULES FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE?
9:33:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
VERY BRIEFLY, THE RULES REGARDING DECORUM FOR TODAY'S
MEETING, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE
OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S COUNCIL MEETING TO
ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES
OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
PUBLIC COMMENT.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED TO
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING
VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM AND
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS SET FOR A PUBLIC

HEARING, IT SAYS SO ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S CALLED A PUBLIC HEARING, AND YOU WILL HAVE THAT
OPPORTUNITY WHEN THE ITEM IS LATER CALLED UP IN THE AGENDA.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN DURING THINGS LABELED AS
STAFF REPORT.
THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS AND ITEMS ON THE CONSENT
AGENDA IS NOW DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT SPEAKER WAIVER CARDS
-- EXCUSE ME, SPEAKER CARDS AND PLACE THEM IN THE SPEAKER
BOX OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
THE CHAIR WILL CALL UPON YOU TO PLEASE SPEAK BY NAME.
I HOPE YOU HAVE PRINTED LEGIBLY BECAUSE CARDS THAT CANNOT BE
READ, UNFORTUNATELY, CANNOT BE CALLED.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT
TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION TO CITY
COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
9:35:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
A REMINDER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WHEN YOU ARE AT THE PODIUM,
PLEASE FACE COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE IS A MICROPHONE THERE AND
IT IS DIRECTIONAL.

DON'T TURN AROUND AND SPEAK TO THE CHAMBERS.
SPEAK TO US SO WE CAN HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THE FIRST PERSON IN PUBLIC COMMENT IS FRED HEARNS.
THE NEXT PERSON IS GOING TO BE NORMA ROBINSON.
9:35:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
FRED HEARNS, 3422 MACHADO STREET IN THE MIDDLE OF HISTORIC
BELMONT HEIGHTS IN DISTRICT 5.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE LOVE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN IN
MEMORY OF COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
MY LAST TIME SPEAKING WITH HER WAS TWO WEEKS BEFORE SHE
PASSED.
WE WERE AT PERRY HARVEY PARK.
WE HAD A RIBBON-CUTTING CEREMONY.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT.
FOR A TEMPORARY SHELTER THAT THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEER
FOUNDATION PLACED THERE, ONE OF THE LARGE TENTS.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW.
SHE MADE IT CLEAR, THIS IS ONLY TEMPORARY UNTIL WE CAN GET
AN AMPHITHEATER HERE AT PERRY HARVEY PARK.
THAT CONVERSATION STARTED OVER 18 YEARS AGO.
MY LAST YEAR AS A CITY OF TAMPA EMPLOYEE, MAYOR PAM IORIO
APPOINTED ME TO CHAIR A COMMITTEE.
WE HAD TEN PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE.
MOST OF THEM WERE DESCENDANTS OF THE FORMER PROPERTY OWNERS
AND BUSINESS OPERATORS ON CENTRAL AVENUE WHEN IT WAS THE

HARLEM OF THE SOUTH, WHEN IT WAS REALLY POPPING.
AND EVERYONE WHO LIVED IN TAMPA AT THAT TIME WHO WAS BLACK
SPENT SOME TIME ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
GWEN HENDERSON UNDERSTOOD THE IMPORTANCE OF BLACK BUSINESS
OWNERSHIP.
AND THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTED TO BRING BACK TO THE CITY.
WE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT ONCE WE HAD AN AMPHITHEATER AND WE
HAD SPECIAL EVENTS AT THE PARK, AND SHE COULD JUST ENVISION
DOZENS OF VENDORS, AS WE'VE HAD FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT NOT
ON A REGULAR BASIS THERE.
SOME OF THESE PEOPLE COULD PERHAPS ADVANCE TO HAVING
OWNERSHIP OF STOREFRONTS, ACTUAL BUILDINGS WHERE THEY COULD
OPERATE BUSINESSES AS A RESULT OF SUCCESS THERE AT PERRY
HARVEY PARK.
I REACHED OUT TO MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS WEEK ASKING YOU
TO SUPPORT, NUMBER ONE, FUNDING AN AMPHITHEATER, FINALLY, AT
PERRY HARVEY PARK.
AND NUMBER TWO, NAMING IT FOR GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
I'M ASKING TO YOU SERIOUSLY CONSIDER DOING THAT.
AND CARRYING OUT A COMMITMENT THAT WAS MADE.
IT WAS VERBAL.
IT WASN'T IN WRITING, TO HAVE THAT AMPHITHEATER OPENED BACK
18 YEARS AGO WHEN THE PARK WAS REDEVELOPED WITH ALL OF THE
BLACK HISTORY THAT WE HAVE THERE.
JUST YESTERDAY, I TOOK A FAMILY THROUGH PERRY HARVEY PARK,

AND THEY WERE HAVING A FAMILY REUNION.
THEY WERE PLANNING THE FAMILY REUNION, AND THEY WANTED TO
LEARN ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE CITY SO THEY COULD SHARE THAT
WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FREE FOR PEOPLE TO
WALK THROUGH THAT PARK AND LEARN ABOUT BLACK HISTORY IN THE
CITY.
REMEMBER, BLACK HISTORY IS TAMPA HISTORY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:38:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NORMA ROBINSON.
[ APPLAUSE ]
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
I'M SO SORRY.
I KNOW IT IS RESPECTFUL IN NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT IN
COUNCIL WE DON'T RESPOND FROM THE AUDIENCE.
NO CLICKING, NO CLAPPING, NO NOISE BECAUSE IT IS A
PROFESSIONAL GOVERNMENT MEETING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NORMA ROBINSON.
9:39:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING SULPHUR SPRINGS WITH COUNCILMAN
HENDERSON, WE HAD HOPE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN OVERLOOKED, WE FEEL, IN THE PAST.
HENDERSON GAVE US HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE REVITALIZED.
THE RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS OF SULPHUR SPRINGS

RESPECTFULLY URGE THE CITY AND COUNTY LEADERS TO PRIORITIZE
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA AS RECREATION AND CULTURAL SPACE
RATHER THAN FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.
SULPHUR SPRINGS IS GOING THROUGH A REVITALIZATION AND ALL
TYPES OF PROPOSALS BEING PREPARED.
SULPHUR SPRINGS IS A COMMUNITY WITH A DEEPLY ROOTED AND
DIVERSE HISTORY DATING BACK TO 1817.
DESPITE THE RICH LEGACY AND UNIQUE CULTURAL IDENTITY,
SULPHUR SPRINGS HAS LONG BEEN PASSED OVER FOR IMPROVEMENTS
AND INVESTMENTS THAT WOULD UPLIFT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR
OUR RESIDENTS.
OUR COMMUNITY IS READY TO POSITIVE CHANGE, CHANGE THAT
HONORS THE PAST, MEETS PRESENT NEEDS AND BUILDS FUTURE AND
INCLUDES ALL OF US.
WE ENVISION A COHESIVE, THOUGHTFULLY DEVELOPED RECREATIONAL
CORRIDOR.
I'M SORRY.
9:41:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME BEFORE SPEAKING.
9:41:27AM >> HOPE KIRIISA, RESIDENT IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
9:41:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, HOPE.
9:41:32AM >> A RECREATION CORRIDOR THAT REFLECTS THE STRENGTH AND
POTENTIAL OF SULPHUR SPRINGS THAT WOULD INCLUDE ENHANCING
AND CONNECTING THE FOLLOWING ASSETS, THE SULPHUR SPRINGS
WATER TOWER, HISTORIC SYMBOL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIVERFRONT
PARK AND GAZEBO, A CENTRAL GREENSPACE FOR FAMILY AND

COMMUNITY GATHERINGS.
SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL AREA, REVITALIZE FOR HEALTH, FUN, AND
SAFE RECREATION, A WALKABLE, ACCESSIBLE PATHWAY THAT LINKS
THE FUTURE GREEN ARTERY, PROMOTING MOBILITY, WELLNESS,
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSCIOUSNESS.
THE SPRINGS THEATER WHICH HOLDS POTENTIAL TO BE RESTORED AS
A PERFORMING ARTS VENUE FOR THE COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE.
MAN WAGON PARK, HOME OF SULPHUR SPRINGS MUSEUM AND COMMUNITY
STEPPINGSTONE, CENTER OF LEARNING, HERITAGE AND YOUTH
ENGAGEMENT.
THE ART BUILDING, A CRITICAL HUB THAT INCLUDES A PUBLIC
LIBRARY, HEALTH SERVICES AND A COMMUNITY AUDITORIUM, ALL
VITAL RESOURCES FOR EDUCATION, WELL-BEING, AND CREATIVE
EXPRESSION.
9:42:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, HOPE.
YOUR PART OF PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER BUT YOU ARE THE NEXT
SPEAKER, SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT OR START WITH
YOURS.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES STARTING NOW.
9:42:41AM >> WE'LL CONTINUE IT THEN.
THANK YOU.
THE FEATURE LOCATED IN THE BEAUTIFUL HILLSBOROUGH RIVER
TOGETHER OFFERS A RARE AND INVALUABLE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A
DYNAMIC RECREATION AND CULTURAL DISTRICT THAT IS NOT ONLY --
THAT NOT ONLY SERVES SULPHUR SPRINGS BUT ENHANCES THE BORDER

OF THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
IT WOULD PROVIDE A SAFE, ENRICHING AND INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT
WHERE RESIDENTS CAN GATHER, LEARN AND HEAL AND CELEBRATE.
WE FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN
THE AREA WOULD UNDERMINE THIS VISION AND FURTHER LIMIT
ACCESS TO PUBLIC SPACES THAT PROMOTE COMMUNITY HEALTH,
CREATIVITY AND COHESION.
INSTEAD, WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP IN RECLAIMING AND
REVITALIZING SULPHUR SPRINGS, NOT AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT, BUT AS
A CENTER PIECE OF TAMPA'S CULTURAL AND RECREATION FUTURE.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND INVITE TO YOU WORK
WITH US IN REVITALIZING THE COMMUNITY DRIVEN BY THIS VISION.
RESPECTFULLY, MS. NORMA AND ON BEHALF OF THE SULPHUR SPRINGS
COMMUNITY AND HOPE, MYSELF.
9:43:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN CONTINUE.
9:43:45AM >> OUTSIDE OF THIS, AGAIN, I'M A RESIDENT OF SULPHUR SPRINGS
AND SIT ON THE ASSOCIATION.
WE DO SEE WHAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING TO INVEST IN THE
SULPHUR SPRINGS.
ONE THING I PETITION THAT WE HAVE INITIATIVES THAT ARE
HOLDING CURRENT LANDLORDS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR AREAS, EVEN
THOUGH WE'RE MAKING THE INVESTMENT, IT'S NOT GOING TO REALLY
PAY OFF IF THE PEOPLE, THE LANDLORDS THERE DON'T REALLY
CARE.
THEY DON'T CARE HOW THE PROPERTY LOOKS.

YOU CAN'T LOOK THEM UP BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL UNDER LLCs.
WE KNOW THAT 70% OF THAT AREA IS RENTALS.
IT'S KIND OF YOU'RE HELPING ON ONE SIDE, BUT WE'RE NOT
REALLY CORRECTING SOME OF THE ROOT CAUSE PROBLEMS.
I PETITION THE COUNCIL TO LOOK INTO INITIATIVES WHERE WE
CAN --
[ENCODER DISCONNECT]
9:44:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WILL ACTIVATE IN A MOMENT.
9:44:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M WITH THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO.
9:45:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME FIRST PLEASE.
9:45:03AM >> TIM VADNAIS.
THIS BRIDGE IS A WALK BRIDGE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, BY THE
SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
IT'S KIND OF A CENTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE OUR CHRISTMAS PARTY USUALLY THERE EVERY YEAR.
IT WAS CONDEMNED I'M GUESSING SIX TO SEVEN YEARS AGO.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING TEMPORARY, SO WE DIDN'T REALLY
LOOK INTO IT.
I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT.
IT IS A HAZARD.
IT'S NOT NICE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE GREEN ARTERY, THE CONNECTION
BETWEEN NEBRASKA AND THE WATER TOWER.

SO WE'VE BEEN CONTACTING THE PARKS DEPARTMENT EVERY YEAR,
AND THEY SAY IT IS NOT EVEN ON THE RADAR.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF IT IF IT COMES
UP IN THE BUDGET OR HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE FOR YOU GUYS.
9:46:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
STEVE MICHELINI, PLEASE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE AILEEN HENDERSON.
9:46:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
STEVE MICHELINI.
YOU HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA ITEM 47 AND 48, WHICH IS TRYING TO
MOVE MONEY FROM THE TREE TRUST FUND.
WE HAD A LONG MEETING THIS PAST WEEK ON MONDAY, INCLUDING
CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
IT INVOLVED THE MONEY THAT'S TAKEN FROM BUILDERS AND
HOMEOWNERS TO REPLACE TREES.
THERE'S $5 MILLION IN THAT ACCOUNT THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT.
AND YOU HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE
ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWED THAT TO TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE SAFETY
MEASURES THAT WERE IN THAT ORDINANCE.
NOW, TODAY, YOU HAVE A REQUEST TO REMOVE TREE TRUST FUND
MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS SHOULD BE STANDING ALONE AND PAYING
THEIR OWN WAY.
THE TREE TRUST FUND IS MONEY COLLECTED WITH THE PURPOSE OF

REPLANTING TREES.
IT'S NOT THERE TO BE USED AS A PIGGY BANK TO RAID FOR OTHER
PROJECTS.
IT JUST ISN'T.
IF THERE IS A PROJECT, SOMEONE, PRIVATE CONTRACTOR IS
BIDDING ON, INCLUDE THE TREE REPLACEMENT IN THAT PROJECT.
DON'T COME OVER AND TRY TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THE TREE
TRUST FUND.
SO I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT WITH $5 MILLION SITTING IN
AN ACCOUNT THAT HASN'T BEEN USED, FIRST, DEVELOP THE
CRITERIA THAT GETS THOSE TREES PLANTED AND USE THAT MONEY
AND DON'T HAVE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS THAT YOU
HAVE TO SIGN AND IF THE TREE DIES AND THE HOMEOWNER HAS TO
PAY FOR IT, YOU CAN NOW PLANT IT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT
THE CRITERIA NEEDS TO BE REVISED.
AND THAT'S WHY THE MONEY HASN'T BEEN USED.
BUT WHEN YOU TRY TO TAKE THAT MONEY THAT'S SITTING THERE,
THAT'S BEEN PUT IN THERE IN GOOD FAITH AND THE CITY IS
SITTING AS A TRUSTEE FOR THAT MONEY, YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT
MONEY AND USE IT FOR SOME OTHER -- NOT OTHER PURPOSE.
IT JUST ISN'T RIGHT.
YOU HAVE CREDITS ON THIS.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE PUTTING IN THERE IS PAVING
AND MOBILITY AND YOU'RE TRANSFERRING THE RESPONSIBILITY FROM
PARKS AND RECREATION TO MOBILITY.

SIMPLY WAS NOT EVER THE INTENT OF THE TREE TRUST FUND.
AND WHEN YOU TAKE THAT MONEY FROM BUILDERS AND YOU TAKE IT
FROM HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE THEY REMOVED A TREE, IT SIMPLY FLIES
IN THE FACE OF THE INTENT OF THAT ORDINANCE.
PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
I THINK THAT CARROLL ANN BENNETT IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK AS
WELL.
AND WE ARE UNITED IN THIS REQUEST WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND
THE BUILDERS DON'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:49:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT NUMBER ON THE AGENDA?
9:49:06AM >> 47 AND 48.
9:49:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE ALREADY PULLING IT.
9:49:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
9:49:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AILEEN HENDERSON.
9:49:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
AILEEN HENDERSON.
I AM HERE TODAY AS CEMETERY SOCIETY.
FIRST, I WANT TO SAY YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE, MAYBE
A FEW PEOPLE, MICHELLE PATTY.
I'M SUPPORTING WHAT SHE'S GOING TO SAY TODAY.
THE CONCERNS ARE WE HAVE A BUDGET COMING UP AND WE DON'T
HAVE REPRESENTATION FOR DISTRICT 5.
THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR A LOT OF US HERE IN DISTRICT 5.
I KNOW WE'RE HAVING AN ELECTION.

THAT'S HAPPENING AFTER THE FACT, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT PEOPLE ARE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
AND DISTRICT 5 IS TAKEN CARE OF.
THERE ARE TWO ITEMS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY ON THE
AGENDA.
ITEM 29.
IT'S THE MOWING CONTRACT.
JUST IN REVIEWING IT AND THE LITTLE BIT I KNOW ABOUT
CONTRACT MANAGEMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS CAME ACROSS WAS THE
BACKGROUND CHECKS.
THERE ARE THREE CRITERIA FOR THE BACKGROUND CHECKS.
AND THEY DON'T INCLUDE ANY AND ALL CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE, I THINK, 35 PARKS THAT THEY WILL HAVE
TO MOW.
I HAVE A PARKS AND REC BACKGROUND.
SO I KNOW THERE ARE PARKS ON THERE THAT HAVE PROGRAMMING
WHERE THERE ARE CHILDREN.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ THE NEWS, BUT THERE WERE 60
CHILDREN JUST RECOVERED, MISSING CHILDREN.
FOR ME, TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT TO HAVE ON THIS MOWING
CONTRACT.
IF THERE'S ANY INTERACTION WHATSOEVER WITH CHILDREN AT A
PARK.
THE OTHER THING IS MAKING SURE ON THE MOWING CONTRACT

CEMETERIES ARE INCLUDED.
THEY ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE HEADSTONES AND GRAVE MARKERS OR
MONUMENTS.
I VISIT THEM ALL THE TIME.
YOU KNOW THIS.
THERE ARE TONS OF NICKS.
THERE ARE HEADSTONES KNOCKED OVER.
THAT IS FROM MOWING, PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE MOWING THAT
PROPERTY.
THEY REALLY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE.
IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THE PEOPLE THAT PUT THE HEADSTONE THERE FOR THE FAMILY
SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF RESTITUTION FROM THESE FOLKS WHEN
THEY DAMAGE THEM.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AND I'M SURE IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE
FAMILY.
ITEM 102, I KNOW NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND YOU DID RECEIVE A
MEMO FROM THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD TO ANSWER TO YOU.
IN THAT MEMO, THEY DO RECOMMEND THAT YOU PUT SOMETHING IN
PLACE FOR PROPERTIES LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, BACK UP FOR SALE,
ASK THAT YOU PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE OR RECOMMENDED THAT YOU
PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE
THIS, WE CAN GO IN AND DO A PROPER GPR.
THEY MENTION A GPR IN THE MEMO.

WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU BACK IN 2021, WE HAD TWO PROFESSIONAL
EXPERTS SAY THAT WAS NOT THE RIGHT GPR.
IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU PUT THIS TOGETHER YOU GET WITH THE
EXPERTS AND THE PROFESSIONALS SO YOU KNOW THE TYPE OF GPR
THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I DID GET WITH FPAN RECENTLY.
RACHEL, I KNOW SHE SENT YOU AN E-MAIL.
SHE IS SUPPORTING ALSO THAT YOU ALL LOOK INTO THAT.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
I'LL SEND AN E-MAIL TO GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS.
I DO WANT TO END ON A POSITIVE NOTE.
OAKLAWN CEMETERY THE OTHER DAY AFTER JUNETEENTH.
HAPPY TO REPORT, LOOKED CLEANED UP.
STILL SOME THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON.
HUGE SHOUT-OUT TO MAJOR RICHARDSON WITH THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW THIS IS HIS AREA NOW.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE POSITIVE FEEDBACK TO
COUNCIL WHEN GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
IT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
THANK YOU.
9:52:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VALERIE BULLOCK FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN
BENNETT.
GOOD MORNING, VALERIE.
9:52:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.

VALERIE BULLOCK.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 36 ABOUT THE SUMMER YOUTH
PROGRAM.
I BELIEVE THAT THE WHOLE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM NEED TO BE
REVAMPED SO THAT THE CHILDREN CAN GET JOBS.
I KNOW WE HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON ADMINISTRATIVE CAUSES,
BUT THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM WAS TO GET
KIDS TRAINING AND JOBS AND TO GET THEM OFF THE STREET.
THIS SUMMER HERE DIDN'T HAPPEN LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE
HAPPENED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SUMMER
YOUTH PROGRAM.
I PARTICIPATED IN THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM.
WHAT IT DOES TO POOR PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN
BLIGHT UNDER THE POVERTY LEVEL, IT TAKES YOU OUT OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT EXPOSES YOU TO SOMETHING POSITIVE AND IT
ALSO GIVES YOU HOPE THAT MAYBE ONE DAY I CAN GET A JOB LIKE
THIS.
AND RIGHT NOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE WHOLE SUMMER YOUTH
PROGRAM IS THE PEOPLE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING, THEY
ARE NOT GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED.
IT DO MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE FAMILY
HOUSE.
WHEN WE WERE WORKING THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM, WE GAVE OUR
MOTHER HALF OUR CHECK AND THE OTHER HALF WAS SPENT ON US.

BUT WHEN ALL YOU DO IS WAKE UP AND YOU SEE NO WAY OUT,
ECONOMICALLY, IT'S DEPRESSING, AND IT AFFECTS THE WAY YOUR
GRADES ARE IN SCHOOL.
IT AFFECTS YOUR SELF-ESTEEM BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE VERY CRUEL
AND PEER PRESSURE IS REAL.
IF MY MOTHER -- THEN I GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO GET THE $200.
WHETHER IT LEAD TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY FOR THE BOYS OR SEXUAL
ACTIVITY FOR THE GIRLS, IT'S REAL AND THIS IS WHAT IS
HAPPENING.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM AND MAKE
SURE THAT THE KIDS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE PROFITING OFF OF THE
PROGRAM AND THAT THE PROGRAM IS FULL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:54:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY WALTER.
9:54:38AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
FOUNDING MEMBER OF T-TAG.
IN 2017, THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION WAS FED UP WITH THE USE OF
THE TREE TRUST FUND.
THEY DIDN'T TRUST THAT IT WAS BEING SPENT PROPERLY.
THERE WAS NO ACCOUNTING FOR IT.
THEY HIRED GINA GRIMES.
THAT RESULTED IN A TWO-YEAR COOPERATION WITH ALL THE
STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT REWRITING THE TREE CODE.
ONE OF THE CORNERSTONES OF THAT WAS ACCOUNTING AND PROPER

USE, GUARDRAILS ON THE TREE TRUST FUND.
THE NEW TREE TRUST FUND, NOT ONE PENNY HAS BEEN SPENT YET,
BUT IT'S ABOUT TO BE.
AND YET NOW THEY HAVE COME TO US SAYING, OH, WE WANT TO
REWRITE THAT.
THEY HAVEN'T EVEN USED THIS NEW CODE, BUT THEY WANT TO
REWRITE IT.
WE HAD A MEETING, AS MR. MICHELINI MENTIONED, ON MONDAY.
VERY LONG MEETING AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW NO MONEY HAS BEEN
SPENT, NO MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT, NO MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT.
THEN I FIND OUT TUESDAY THEY WANT $334,000 OUT OF THE TREE
TRUST FUND TO COVER THE PIPES PROGRAM.
SO THERE WERE FOUR RESOLUTIONS COVERING THE MONEY FOR THE
PIPES PROGRAM.
EVERY ONE OF THEM IS FULLY FUNDED OUT OF THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS, WATER BONDS, STORMWATER BONDS.
HERE'S ALL THE MONEY THAT WAS APPROVED.
HERE'S THE FINANCING.
IT WAS FULLY FINANCED.
THE ENTIRE PROJECT WAS FULLY FINANCED USING THE MONEY.
SO NOW THEY SAY, OH, WE NEED TO PAY FOR THE TREES AND FOR
VIRGINIA PARK AND PARKLAND ESTATES, MacFARLANE PARK.
I LIVE IN VIRGINIA PARK.
THEY PLANTED THE TREES OVER A YEAR AGO AND NOW THEY ARE
SAYING THEY NEED THE MONEY FOR THEM AND IT HAS TO COME FROM

THE TREE TRUST FUND.
LOOK AT ALL THESE BOTTLE BRUSHES THAT THEY PLANTED.
THAT'S WHAT THE TREE TRUST FUND IS SUPPOSED TO COVER?
THIS IS THE BOTTLE BRUSH TREE THAT THEY PLANTED THAT THEY
NOW NEED MONEY FROM THE TREE TRUST FUND.
ALSO, THE REQUEST IS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
ONE THING SAYS 52,000 FROM SOUTH TAMPA AND 282 FROM CENTRAL
TAMPA.
THE OTHER ONE SAYS THE REVERSE.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS CORRECT.
EVEN AT 52,000 FROM SOUTH TAMPA AND 49 TREES, THAT'S OVER A
THOUSAND DOLLARS A TREE FOR A BOTTLE BRUSH.
I TOLD MY HUSBAND, HE WANTS ME TO GIVE YOU HIS BUSINESS
CARD.
HE SAID I'LL DO IT FOR 500 PER TREE.
A THOUSAND DOLLARS A TREE?
THAT'S IF IT'S 52,000.
WHAT THEY ARE SAYING FROM SOUTH TAMPA THEY WANT 282 FOR 49
TREES.
WE HAVE TO GUARD THIS MONEY.
WHEN THE LOTTERY WAS BEING VOTED ON, THEY SAID IT WOULD ALL
GO TO EDUCATION.
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE AGAINST IT SAID WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO
DO IS RAID THE CURRENT EDUCATION BUDGET AND BACKFILL IT WITH
LOTTERY MONEY SO VOTE NO.

I VOTED NO.
I WAS RIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.
THEY RAIDED THE EDUCATION BUDGET.
THEY BACKFILLED IT WITH LOTTERY MONEY.
DIDN'T INCREASE THE FUNDING AT ALL.
I'M AFRAID THAT'S WHAT I SEE GOING ON HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WALTER HILL.
THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE THE MAYOR OF WEST TAMPA, JOE
ROBINSON.
9:57:54AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, STAFF, AND RESIDENTS.
MY NAME IS WALTER HILL.
VICE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS.
SINCE 2023, THIS COUNCIL AND IFF LOCAL 754 HAVE CALLED
LOUDLY AND CONSISTENTLY FOR COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN OF
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
BACK IN MARCH OF UP WITH IT, THIS COUNCIL FORMALLY REQUESTED
ONE BY MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS VIERA AND CITRO, YET HERE
WE ARE, JUNE 26, 2025, AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE ONE.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN PRESENTED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HASN'T
BEEN A FORWARD-LOOKING STRATEGY.
IT'S BEEN A RECAP, A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN
COMPLETED OR UNDERWAY.
THAT'S NOT A MASTER PLAN.

THAT IS A PROGRESS REPORT.
WE AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL HAVE OFFERED TO HELP DEVELOP A
REAL PLAN, ONE THAT LOOKS AHEAD, IDENTIFIES RISKS AND BUILDS
CAPACITY FOR THE CITY WE'RE BECOMING.
BUT TO DATE, THOSE OFFERS REMAIN UNANSWERED.
WE'VE ALL HEARD ABOUT THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM AND
HOW IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
IT MAY BE DELAYING THE MASTER PLAN, BUT OUR CAT SYSTEM HAS
BEEN OUT OF SERVICE NEARLY A DECADE.
EMERGENCIES DON'T WAIT FOR SOFTWARE UPDATES OR
IMPLEMENTATION AND NEITHER SHOULD WE.
DEVELOPMENT IS RISING FASTER THAN OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND.
FROM MIDTOWN TO WATER STREET, WESTSHORE TO GASWORX, ENTIRE
NEW COMMUNITIES ARE COMING ONLINE OR SET TO COME ONLINE WITH
NO FIRE STATIONS PLANNED FOR THESE AREAS AND NO UNITS
ADDITIONALLY ALLOCATED FOR THEM.
THESE ARE VERTICAL CITIES WITHIN OUR CITY, AND WITH EACH
ONE, THE BURDEN ON TAMPA FIRE GROWS HEAVIER.
THE SKYLINE IS EXPANDING AND SO ARE THE CALLS FOR HELP.
WHEN THOSE CALLS COME IN, FIREFIGHTERS DON'T ASK FOR
ANALYTICS.
THEY ASK HOW FAST WE CAN GET THERE?
SOME WILL STAY THERE IS A STATION NEARBY BUT PROXIMITY
DOESN'T MEAN AVAILABILITY.
WHEN THAT ENGINE IS ALREADY OUT, RESPONSE TIMES MATTER AND

OUTCOMES SUFFER.
SECONDS MATTER AND LIVES HANG IN THE BALANCE.
LOOKING AT STATION 24, PLANNING BEGAN IN 2022 AFTER REQUESTS
FOR ADDITIONAL STATIONS BEGAN IN 2020.
IT'S BEEN ON YOUR AGENDA OVER SIX TIMES AND HERE IT IS AGAIN
TODAY FOR ITEM NUMBER 97 AND YET WE STILL HAVEN'T BROKEN
GROUND AND THAT TIMELINE CONTINUES TO EXPAND.
THE COMMUNITY IS WATCHING AND SO ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO
SERVE IT.
RESIDENTS AND FIREFIGHTERS OF TAMPA DESERVE MORE THAN STATUS
REPORTS; THEY DESERVE READINESS; THEY DESERVE RESPONSE.
WE, YOUR FIREFIGHTERS, DESERVE THE TOOLS, THE PLANNING, AND
THE INVESTMENT TO SERVE THIS CITY WITH EXCELLENCE.
WE DON'T RUN FROM CHALLENGES; WE RUN TOWARDS THEM, BUT WE
CAN'T DO IT ALONE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR PERFECTION; WE'RE ASKING FOR PROGRESS.
LET THIS BE THE COUNCIL AND ADMIN THAT ACTED, NOT THE ONE
THAT WAITED.
LET THIS BE THE YEARS TO STOP REFLECTING AND START BUILDING.
LET'S DELIVER ON THE PROMISES MADE IN 2021, REAFFIRMED IN
2023, AND ARE STILL UNFULFILLED TODAY.
LET'S MOVE FROM UPDATES TO ACTIONS.
THANK YOU.
10:00:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
JOE ROBINSON.

NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ALISON DATE.
10:00:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JOE ROBINSON, THE OLD SCAGLIONE HOUSE IN WEST TAMPA.
FIRST OF ALL, ITEM 101, COUNCIL TO PARTNER WITH JOHN
BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF, TO ENGAGE AN EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY TO
CONDUCT A MASSIVE CITY PROCESS REGARDING PUBLIC GRIEVANCES.
THAT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.
THAT'S ABOUT 40% OF THE DYSFUNCTIONALITY GOING ON DOWN IN
CITY HALL.
LET'S GET THE GRIEVANCES STRAIGHT.
LET'S LISTEN TO WHY PEOPLE LEFT.
LET'S DIG INTO THAT BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE RELATIONSHIPS YOU
CAN'T COMMUNICATE AND YOU HAVE ALL THIS CRAZINESS GOING ON
WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS -- FIRE, LEGAL, MOBILITY --
BENNETT, THANK YOU, MAN, STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND
PUTTING THAT ON THERE.
NOW, I'M HERE BECAUSE THERE IS A HOLE IN THE WALL.
I NEED DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES FROM ONE, TWO, THREE, PLEASE
MONITOR AND SUPPORT AN EQUITABLE BUDGET FOR DISTRICT 5 WITH
ME.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FOR DISTRICT 5 BUDGET.
I'M ASKING THE AT-LARGE MEMBERS WHO REPRESENT THE WHOLE CITY
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH I'VE BEEN A
RESIDENT FOR DECADES AND DECADES, TAXPAYER FOR DECADES AND
DECADES, PROPERTY OWNER, BUSINESS MAN RUNNING A BUSINESS IN

DISTRICT 5 OVER 35 YEARS, INCLUDING RENTING PROPERTY SINCE I
WAS 12 YEARS OLD, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT
DON'T GET USURPED BY OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.
SLUM AND BLIGHT.
OVER ALL OF THE CRAs, EXCEPT FOR ONE.
WE'RE TRYING TO COME BACK ON EAST AND WEST SIDE.
EAST AND WEST SIDE.
THE EAST SIDE NEEDS SOME HELP.
THE WEST SIDE, WE STARTED ROLLING.
BUT THE EAST SIDE REALLY NEEDS SOME HELP.
HERE TO SAY THAT WITHOUT IT REPRESENTED, WITHOUT A VOICE,
WITHOUT SOMEBODY TO SPEAK UP, WITHOUT SOMEBODY TO SAY
SOMETHING, I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THOSE THAT ARE THERE THAT
REPRESENT THE WHOLE CITY OF TAMPA.
ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
I BEG YOU, I ASK WITH YOU, I PLEAD WITH YOU TO PLEASE MAKE
SURE THAT WE GET AN EQUITABLE BUDGET FOR DISTRICT 5.
I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT IT IS.
OTHER MEMBERS, I WANT YOUR HELP, TOO.
IT TAKES FOUR VOTES TO GET ANYTHING DONE.
ONE, TWO, THREE WILL NEED ONE MORE TO DO ANYTHING.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A TOUGH TASK.
THE BUDGET AIN'T BEEN PRESENTED BY THE MAYOR YET, BUT IT'S
COMING.

I'M ASKING YOU UP FRONT TO PLEASE SUPPORT IT.
LET ME GET BACK TO WORK.
I HAVE A LOT TO DO NOW THAT YOU HAVE A HOLE IN THE WALL.
10:03:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON.
10:03:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, I'M ALISON DATE.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT 47 AND 48 AND THE USE OF THE TREE
TRUST FUND MONEY.
WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THE TREE CANOPY IS NOT BEING REPLANTED
WITH ADEQUATE DIVERSITY OF SIZE AND SPECIES.
NOT ENOUGH OF THESE GUYS.
ALL THE LITTLE ORNAMENTAL NON-NATIVES ARE BEING PLANTED WITH
THE TREE TRUST FUND MONEY SO FAR, MAJORITY.
WE FOUND INADEQUATE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WE'VE GOTTEN.
ALL WE GET IS THE BUDGET.
THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A REPORT.
THERE IS A LACK OF MONITORING TO VERIFY THE CRITERIA THAT
ARE IN THE TREE PLAN.
IT'S NOT BEING DONE.
IN FACT, I THINK MAYBE IT'S NOT EVEN LOOKED AT.
THE OTHER THING THAT I NEED TO SAY IS THAT GETTING THIS
INFORMATION ABOUT THE 47 AND 48 STUCK INTO ANOTHER ASKING
FOR MONEY IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
IT'S LIKE IT'S DECEPTIVE IN A WAY.
THESE RESOLUTIONS NEED TO CLARIFY AND SAY ON THE AGENDA THAT
IT IS THE TREE FUND MONEY THAT'S BEING USED CLEARLY

SEPARATELY.
WE MET ON MONDAY WITH PEOPLE FROM THE CITY, BUT NO ONE TOLD
US ABOUT THE $334,000 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKED FOR FROM
THE TREE TRUST FUND.
WE DISCOVERED IT AT THE LAST MINUTE BY LOOKING AT THE
AGENDA.
SO THAT'S OF A CONCERN TO US.
BECAUSE IN THE ORIGINAL MONEY THEY HAD BEEN USING,
UNACCOUNTABLE.
THEY COULD JUST TAKE THE MONEY, USE IT FOR WHATEVER THEY
WANTED TO.
BUT NOW, AS THEY USED UP ALL THAT MONEY, WHICH THAT IS
ANOTHER QUESTION, WHAT HAS THAT MONEY BEEN USED FOR?
WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO REPORTING ON IT.
AND THIS MONEY, THEY NOW WANT TO PUT ALL THE FIVE DISTRICTS
INTO ONE FUND.
WILL THEY USE IT THE SAME WAY, WHICH WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW
THEY USED IT?
IT'S A CONCERN.
I DON'T KNOW, JUST BY LOOKING AND BY LOOKING AT THE LITTLE
BIT OF DATA, THE TREE CANOPY IS DISAPPEARING, AND WE CAN'T
REPLACING, ESPECIALLY THE TYPE ONE.
THEY NEED TO BE PUT IN PLACE OR SPACE NEEDS TO BE MADE FOR
THEM BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO PLACE FOR THEM.
AND IT TAKES 50 YEARS TO GET ONE OF THESE GUYS AND THEY ARE

GONE.
THEY ARE NOT BEING REPLANTED.
I'M HOPING THAT THOSE CHANGES CAN BE MADE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GINGER CASE FOLLOWED BY MARTY GREEN.
10:06:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS GINGER CASE.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CASA BEL MAR APARTMENTS.
I, FIRST OFF, HATED TO SEE THE CHURCH GO.
THAT'S WHERE MY PARENTS WERE MARRIED.
I WATCHED THEM BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP AND TOLD THERE WOULD
BE RETAIL SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
THERE ISN'T ANY.
I PERSONALLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE TO INQUIRE ABOUT
GETTING IN, FINDING A HOME.
ONE IS IN NEED OF A HOME YESTERDAY.
THEY ARE GETTING PUSH-BACK.
IF YOU CAN FIND SOMEBODY IN THERE, IT'S RARE AND ONLINE THEY
ARE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET ANY INFORMATION.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
THANK YOU.
10:07:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MARTY GREEN.
NEXT WILL BE PAMELA -- PAM CANNELLA.

10:07:11AM >> MY NAME IS MARTY GREEN.
WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
AS OF NOW, I REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA,
RACISM STILL GOING ON IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
AS A SUPERVISOR COULD GET AWAY WITH CALLING EMPLOYEES
MONKEYS, FIRST THING I FIND WITH THIS PAPERWORK IS THAT THE
EMPLOYEE THAT CALLED EMPLOYEES MONKEYS, THEY SAY HE WAS A
REGULAR EMPLOYEE.
NO, HE WAS ON THE PROBATION PERIOD.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN TERMINATED THERE.
NO IF, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT.
DURING THE INVESTIGATION, THREE PEOPLE FELT OFFENDED.
AND NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT IT.
RIGHT NOW, THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IS BEING RAN LIKE
CANDYLAND.
I SPEAK OF THIS, ONES COVERED UP, MICHAEL BROWN.
BRIAN ROGERS, HE IS THE MANAGER OF THE DEPARTMENT.
HE IS AN APPOINTED OFFICIAL.
THEREFORE, IT GOES BY THE CITY OFFICIAL AND THE MAYOR.
ONLY ONES THAT CAN GET HIM OUT OF THERE.
THE LENSES OF MY EYES, I SEE HIM AS A RACIST BECAUSE YOU LET
THIS GO ON UNDER YOUR WATCH.
IF THIS KEEP GOING ON, THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO
GO ALL THE WAY DOWN.
THE SAME THING GOING ON, THE CLIQUES.

THE CLIQUES IS REAL IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE AUDITOR.
THE CITY OF TAMPA AUDITOR, THEY CALL ME.
I MET WITH HER.
NOW THEY TELLING ME THEY CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT IT, THEY
SENT OUTSIDE AUDITOR.
THAT WAS FROM RODRIGUEZ HR.
NEVER HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE OUTSIDE AUDITOR.
SAYING THAT TO SAY THIS THAT RIGHT NOW, IT IS A LOT GOING ON
IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
BYPASS, THE INTERIM FOR VIK.
HE HASN'T COME DOWN TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF OR SAID NOTHING TO
US.
A LOT OF GUYS IN THE DEPARTMENT FEELING THE SAME WAY I'M
FEELING RIGHT NOW, FRUSTRATED, DEPRESSING.
BECAUSE HE'S DOING THE SAME THING VIK DID.
HE NEVER CAME DOWN THERE TO ADDRESS US AND WE'VE BEEN ASKING
FOR A MEETING WITH VIK BEFORE HE LEFT.
WE ASKED FOR A MEETING WITH BRIAN RODGERS.
ALL THOSE GUYS REFUSE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH US.
THEY GO BY THIS ONE GUY, MICHAEL BROWN TO SAY, OH, I GOT
THIS.
LET ME HANDLE THIS.
LET ME HANDLE THIS.
NO, YOU'RE NOT HANDLING NOTHING.

YOU'RE TRYING TO HANDLE US LIKE SLAVES.
THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
WITH THE CITY FUNDING, THEY SAY ORDER US TRUCKS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRUCKS.
WE HAVE TO GO TO THE DEPARTMENT, ANOTHER COMPANY AND GET
TRUCKS AND RENT TRUCKS.
THAT'S $7200 A MONTH RENTING TRUCKS THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY
IN THE BUDGET.
THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE MONEY.
ALSO WITH THE FEMA SITUATION, YOU PAY US OUR REGULAR PAY,
BUT GETTING PAID DOUBLE TIME FEMA.
THAT NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED.
COME FROM UP TOP AT TALLAHASSEE.
THEY NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED.
RIGHT NOW, AS I SPEAK RIGHT NOW, I'LL BE BACK IN TWO MORE
WEEKS WITH SOMETHING FROM STORMWATER.
STORMWATER HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, I'LL BE BACK WITH THEM,
TOO.
10:10:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
PAM CANNELLA, PLEASE.
FOLLOWED BY LURLENE DIAZ.
10:10:32AM >> I HAVE AN ASSISTANT.
10:10:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
STATE YOUR NAME.
10:10:58AM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.

I AM CONCERNED WITH THE LACK OF ETHICS DISPLAYED BY SOME OF
THE EMPLOYEES, STAFF AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT MAKE
LIFE-CHANGING DECISIONS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT, ABUSE OF POWER, AND
MISAPPROPRIATION OF FUNDS CANNOT BE TOLERATED.
THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT HAS LED
TO FLOODING, INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS, AND LOSS OF PROPERTY.
NOW I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE ZONING
DEPARTMENT.
THE ZONING DEPARTMENT APPROVED THE APPLICATION PROPOSAL FOR
A MIXED USE STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING BASED ON THE
CRITERIA THAT UNDER ITS CG ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY, THE
APPLICANT WAS ENTITLED, BUT NO RETAIL WAS BUILT AT
COMPLETION OF THIS BUILDING, NO STOREFRONT ON SITE PLAN.
YET I WAS ASSURED BY -- BEFORE THE GROUNDBREAKING THAT THE
APPLICANT WAS ENTITLED UNDER THE CG ZONING, SINCE THE USE OF
A STOREFRONT WAS PROPOSED.
I WAS TOLD NO PUBLIC NOTICE WAS NEEDED, NO CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL FOR WAIVERS.
AND I HAVE A LETTER, AN E-MAIL FROM CATE WELLS.
AS ERIC EXPLAINED, THE DEVELOPMENT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT
SINCE THE USE STOREFRONT COMMERCIAL, WHICH INCLUDES A RETAIL
USE AND A HUNDRED MULTIFAMILY UNITS IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE
UNDERLYING ZONE DISTRICTS.

GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND
A BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED, IT WAS ALLOWED.
THE APPROVAL OF ACCELERATED PERMITS AND BOND MONEY WAS GIVEN
TO THIS HOUSING PROJECT.
BASED ON THE PRETENSE THAT THIS APPLICANT WAS ENTITLED UNDER
THE CG ZONING, APPLICATION PROPOSAL FOR A MIXED USE
STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
KEYWORD IS STOREFRONT.
NEVER HAPPENED.
THERE IS NO STOREFRONT.
BUT THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT ENTITLED BY RIGHT OF CG ZONING AS
WAS TOLD TO ME BY CATE WELLS AND ERIC COTTON, BECAUSE
WITHOUT IT THERE'S NO RETAIL STORE.
THAT ZONING DOESN'T -- YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
THERE WE ARE.
I WAS ENSURED TO ME BY CATE WELLS AND ERIC COTTON THAT IT
WAS ALL PUT THROUGH AND THEY WERE ENTITLED WITH A STOREFRONT
THAT THEY NEVER DID PUT THROUGH.
THANK YOU.
10:13:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
LURLENE DIAZ FOLLOWED BY JAMES.
10:14:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MY MIME IS LURLENE DIAZ, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CREATIVE
WOMEN.

OUR GOAL AT CREATIVE IS TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
OUR MAIN CAMPUS IS 3102 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE, SO YOU KNOW
THAT WE ARE IN THE HEART OF IT.
AT CREATIVE, WE ARE A RESIDENTIAL RECOVERY PROGRAM FOR
SURVIVORS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
WE ALL KNOW THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS A PROBLEM IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
WE WERE JUST REMINDED OF THAT THIS WEEK IN THE NEWS.
SINCE -- FOR 18 YEARS, CREATIVE HAS BEEN A PART OF THE
SOLUTION FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE HAVE GONE FROM ONE RESIDENTIAL
FACILITY TO FOUR SPREAD ACROSS THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
SO WE REALLY WANT TO SERVE THE WOMEN IMPACTED BY HUMAN
TRAFFICKING.
WE HAVE FOUR HOUSES AND FOUR RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS WHICH
ALLOWS US TO ADAPT CASE PLAN FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL WOMAN THAT
SUITS THEIR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.
WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT IS THE ASSESSMENT HOUSE WHERE WE
BRING WOMEN IN AND WE CAN ASSESS WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, AND
WE CAN GO FROM THERE TO HELP DEVELOP A PLAN THAT WILL BEST
SUIT THEM FOR LONG-TERM CARE.
AFTER THAT, WE HAVE TWO PROGRAM HOUSES WHERE WOMEN CAN STAY
UP TO TWO YEARS.
DURING THAT TIME, THEY ARE GETTING THEIR LIFE BACK.
THEY RECEIVE THERAPY FOR THEIR TRAUMA.

THEY ALSO RECEIVE DRUG TREATMENT AND THEY RECEIVE LIFE
SKILLS AND ALL THE OTHER SKILLS THEY NEED TO DEVELOP TO
OVERCOME THE BARRIERS THAT LED THEM TO TRAFFICKING, BUT ALSO
PREVENTING THEM FROM LIVING A PROTECTIVE LIFE.
OUR GOAL IS TO TAKE THEM FROM BEING SOMEBODY TRAFFICKED THAT
IN THE END THEY LIVE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT LIVES, FULL-TIME
JOBS, PERMANENT HOUSING.
OUR PROGRAM HAS 89% SUCCESS RATE.
WE JUST NOW ADDED A NEW HOUSE TO OUR PROGRAM.
THAT HOUSE IS FOR WOMEN WHO HAVE COMPLETED OUR PROGRAM.
THEY STILL NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT OR THEY PREFER TO LIVE IN
COMMUNITY SO THEY CAN CONTINUE IN THEIR CARE AND THEIR
DEVELOPMENT OR AT THIS TIME PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTIONS ARE
NOT AVAILABLE TO THEM, BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO BE IN THE
PROGRAM ANY LONGER, SO THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION FOR THEM.
IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT CREATIVE, I HAVE
REPORTS WITH ME AND MY CARD AND LOVE TO TALK TO YOU OFF-LINE
ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
REALLY GRATEFUL.
10:16:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR COMING.
JAMES, FOLLOWED BY RYAN DANCER.
JAMES LEFT.
RYAN.
RYAN DANCER.

GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
FRANK WILLIAMS.
PASTOR.
THE NEXT SPEAKER AFTER MR. WILLIAMS WILL BE KRIZ PARTRIDGE.
10:17:09AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS, LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT
STREET.
I'M HERE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR TAXES.
YOU KNOW, I WENT TO PAY MY HOMEOWNERS AND TAXES YESTERDAY.
IT WAS SO HIGH, I ASKED CAN I PAY IN AN INSTALLMENT PLAN.
NO, YOU NEED $3,050 TO PAY RIGHT NOW.
OTHERWISE YOUR TAXES GOING TO GO UP.
I SAY WHY IS THAT?
SHE SAY, WELL, THAT IS THE PLAN THE GOVERNMENT MADE FOR YOU.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE COULD PAY ALL THE TAXES WE WANT, BUT YOU GOT TO
UNDERSTAND THAT PUT A BUDGET ON PAYING TAXES ON YOUR HOME
BECAUSE THAT'S A WAY FOR THEM TO TAKE YOUR HOMES AWAY FROM
YOU.
YOU KNOW THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
BUT WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT?
YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE EAST SIDE OF TAMPA.
EAST SIDE OF TAMPA IS LIKE A GARBAGE PIT FOR THE WEST SIDE
OF TAMPA, AND THAT'S SAD.
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE EAST SIDE.
I DON'T THINK THE MAYOR HAS NO BUDGET FOR THE EAST SIDE.

DIG THEM TRENCH HOLES IN BELMONT HEIGHTS AND JACKSON
HEIGHTS, NOBODY WANT TO DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
I TOLD YOU ALL TO FILL ONE PIECE OF LAND IN AND BUILD MY
CHURCH OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY DONE TOOK MY CHURCH OVER
THERE ON SCOTT STREET AND GAVE IT TO THE WHITE FOLKS.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE WILL STILL STRIVE AND SURVIVE.
WHY?
BECAUSE WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
ONLY STAND UP FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
WE DON'T COME THE UP HERE PREACHING EVIL TO NOBODY.
WE STAND UP FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
AND WE DESERVE THAT RIGHT, DON'T WE?
AIN'T GOING TO SAY NOTHING, BUT I KNOW WE DESERVE THE RIGHTS
OF PEOPLE, THAT'S ALL WE ARE, NOTHING BUT PEOPLE.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU ALL HAVE TO GIVE IN AND TALK AND
DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR EVERYBODY.
NOT JUST DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR WHITE FOLKS ONLY.
DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
NOW WE HAVE THIS THING CALLED JUNETEENTH.
WHAT IN THE HELL IS JUNETEENTH?
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, I GO TO ST. PETERSBURG SPEAK ON
JUNETEENTH, I SAID, WHAT IS THAT?
BUT I WENT THERE AND I SPOKE THE BEST AS I CAN.
SOMETHING ABOUT THE FREEDOM OF PEOPLE.

BLACK FOLKS WERE NEVER FREE.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
WHERE WOULD THEY GO?
MY TIME IS UP.
I CAN'T SAY ANYMORE.
10:20:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, PASTOR.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
CHRIS PARTRIDGE.
NEXT SPEAKER BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
GOOD MORNING.
10:20:40AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS KRIZ PARTRIDGE.
I LIVE IN COLLEGE HILL.
I'M SPEAKING TODAY BECAUSE I'M OUTRAGED THAT THE CITY OF
TAMPA IS HOSTING TURNING POINT USA STUDENT ACTION SUMMIT AT
OUR PUBLICLY OWNED CONVENTION CENTER.
THIS IS ONE OF THREE SUCH EVENTS THAT TURNING POINT IS
HOLDING HERE IN JULY.
THESE ARE NOT JUST CONFERENCES, THESE ARE RALLIES DISGUISED
AS EDUCATIONAL SUMMITS.
TURNING POINT USA HAS A DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF
DISINFORMATION, ATTACKS ON LGBTQ YOUTH, GLORIFICATION OF
AUTHORITARIAN LEADERS AND HARASSMENT OF EDUCATORS AND PUBLIC
OFFICIALS.
THEIR PRESENCE DOESN'T JUST REFLECT POORLY ON TAMPA.

IT CREATES A CLIMATE OF FEAR, HOSTILITY, AND DIVISION IN OUR
SCHOOLS, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND OUR CITY.
WHEN WE ALLOW PUBLIC VENUES TO BE USED FOR EVENTS LIKE THIS,
IT'S NOT NEUTRAL.
IT'S AN ENDORSEMENT, ONE THAT PUTS TAMPA'S VENUES -- SORRY,
TAMPA'S VALUES, SAFETY, AND REPUTATION AT RISK.
I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO PUBLICLY CONDEMN THESE TURNING
POINT SUMMITS, REVIEW THE CONVENTION CENTER'S BOOKING
PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT IT REFLECTS OUR COMMUNITY STANDARDS
AND SAFEGUARDS PUBLIC RESOURCES.
I'M ASKING YOU TO STAND WITH THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA, PROTECT
OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE VALUES WE SHARE.
TAMPA SHOULD BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE FEEL SAFE, WELCOMED,
AND PROUD.
NOT A TESTING GROUND FOR AUTHORITARIAN POLITICS WRAPPED IN
YOUTH EDUCATION CONFERENCES.
THANK YOU.
10:22:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MICHELLE B. PATTY.
FOLLOWED BY MENTESNOT.
10:22:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST THANK COUNCIL FOR WEARING YOUR PINS
THIS MORNING IN RECOGNITION OF COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON
REPRESENTING DISTRICT 5.

IT'S STILL HARD FOR ME TO PROCESS THAT SHE'S GONE, BUT I'M
HERE BECAUSE I RECEIVED MANY CALLS FROM FRIGHTENED RESIDENTS
THAT LIVE IN DISTRICT 5 CONCERNING THE BUDGET, THAT THERE'S
PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ANYONE TO REPRESENT THEM BECAUSE
HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT'S IN THE RACE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A
RUNOFF.
THEY WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT THEY WOULD APPRECIATE
YOU MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S MONEY TO CONTINUE FAIR OAKS,
THAT FAIR OAKS STAY ON TRACK, THAT THERE'S MONEY FOR TREE
TRIMMING BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE HURRICANE SEASON, AND WE KNOW
THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MANY HURRICANES AND THEY WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE TREES ARE TRIMMED.
THE ROOFS THAT THERE'S MONEY FOR FIXING THEIR HOMES, THEIR
ROOFS AND ALL.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT CRA, THEY HAVE A BOUNDARY.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE JUST ACROSS THE STREET, MANY OF
THESE ARE SENIORS WHO ARE ON FIXED INCOME, AND THEY DON'T
HAVE A WAY OF FIXING THEIR HOME.
AND THE CRAs CANNOT FIX THE HOME BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN
THE BOUNDARIES.
SO THEY ARE ASKING THAT YOU ALL, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET,
TO BE MINDFUL THAT THEY ARE IN NEED OF MONIES FOR FIXING
THEIR HOMES AND THINGS.
AS WE GO FORTH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, A LOT OF THE HOMES, IF
THEY ARE NOT FIXED, THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO BE

FINING THESE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT PAY THESE, THEREBY TAKING
THEIR HOMES AND CREATING MORE GENTRIFICATION.
WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL THAT IS SITTING HERE, THAT YOU BE
VERY, VERY MINDFUL THAT DISTRICT FIVE WAS ON TRACK, THAT
COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON AND HONOR HER LEGACY AS YOU
WEAR THOSE PINS THAT YOU KEEP THE COUNCIL, THAT DISTRICT IN
MIND.
ALSO, WE KNOW THAT DISTRICT IS ALSO A FOOD DESERT.
ONE OF THE THINGS SHE TALKED ABOUT WAS TRYING TO SEE ABOUT
BRINGING GROCERY STORES, NICE GROCERY STORES TO THAT AREA.
SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK THAT YOU ALL CONTINUE THAT LEGACY OF
HELPING PEOPLE.
SHE DIDN'T SEE US AS THIS COLOR, FIGHTING AGAINST SOUTH,
EAST, WEST, SHE SEEN TAMPA AS A WHOLE.
SHE LOVED THE CITY.
SHE LOVED THE COMMUNITY.
SHE LOVED THE PEOPLE.
SO WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU CONTINUE THAT SAME, EVEN THOUGH
THERE'S NO ONE SITTING IN THAT SEAT, HER SPIRIT IS SITTING
THERE.
SO AS YOU MAKE THAT -- LOOK AT THE BUDGET, MAKE SURE THAT
THERE IS MONEYS TO SEE ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN DISTRICT 5.
THEY NEED TO HAVE MONIES.
THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, NOT OVERLOOKED, BECAUSE WE
ARE HERE WATCHING THE COUNCIL AS YOU LOOK AT THAT BUDGET.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
BECAUSE I KNOW MANY OF YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:25:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MENTESNOT FOLLOWED BY ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:25:41AM >> UHURU, MENTESNOT.
I WANT TO SAY THE FIRST TIME I HAD SEX WITH MY MOTHER I
THOUGHT --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
-- IT WAS NORMAL.
THE HUNDREDTH TIME I HAD SEX WITH MY MOTHER --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:26:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
10:26:02AM >> IN WHAT WAY?
10:26:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS A VULGAR COMMENT.
NO, NO.
THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION.
I'VE RULED THAT YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
THAT IS A VULGAR DISCUSSION, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT
IN A GOVERNMENT MEETING.
10:26:14AM >> WHAT AM I TO DO?
10:26:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS A WARNING.
YOU CAN CONTINUE FOR THE REST OF YOUR THREE MINUTES.
IF YOU DO IT AGAIN, I'LL ASK YOU TO LEAVE.
10:26:23AM >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, IF YOU CAN STOP THE TIME,
PLEASE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
WHAT DID I SAY WAS VULGAR?
10:26:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE NOT STOPPING THE CLOCK.
CONTINUE THE CLOCK.
10:26:33AM >> WHAT DID I SAY WAS VULGAR.
10:26:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION AFTER THE
MEETING.
10:26:39AM >> WHAT HAPPENS IN REALITY IS PEOPLE NORMALIZE TREATING
BLACK PEOPLE LIKE DIRT.
THEY NORMALIZE HAVING THE SENSITIVITY TO THE NEEDS, THE
ASPIRATIONS, THE DESIRES OF AFRICAN PEOPLE.
THEY NORMALIZE OFFENSIVE BEHAVIOR AND OFFENSIVE ACTIVITIES.
THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THIS CITY GOVERNMENT HAS NORMALIZED
THAT FOR ONCE SO FAR THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE
BACK IN 1865 OR 1854.
AND THEY NORMALIZE IT.
DISTRICT 5 NEVER HAD ANY REPRESENTATION.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY NOW, AND THEY NORMALIZE THAT.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A PROCESS OF APPOINTING SOMEONE FOR
DISTRICT 5.
WE HAVE QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS, MICHELLE PATTY, SISTER CONNIE
BURTON, ROBIN LOCKETT, THAT THEY CAN SAY HOLD THE SEAT DOWN
UNTIL THERE IS AN ELECTION, BUT THERE'S NO REPRESENTATION
WHATSOEVER, NONE.
THEY NORMALIZE.

PART OF MY BOOK SAY OPPRESSION CAUSES PHYSICAL REGRESSION
AND MENTAL RETARDATION.
WHEN YOU LOOK OVER DISTRICT 5, IT SEEMS LIKE ALL BLACK
PEOPLE ARE MENTALLY RETARDED.
SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL MENTALLY RETARDED.
DISTRICT 5, DIRTY, NASTY, HOUSES RAN DOWN.
THE ONLY TIME YOU SEE DEVELOPMENT IS WHEN THE CRACKERS
COMING THROUGH TO TAKE IT THROUGH GENTRIFICATION.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SAID ABOUT THE CONFLICT THAT'S GOING
ON ACROSS THE WATER SOMEWHERE, HE SAY, THIS IS A QUOTE FROM
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
HE SAY, THEY HAVE BEEN FIGHTING SO LONG, THEY DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE F -- THEY ARE DOING.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:28:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
PLEASE LEAVE THE CHAMBER.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ROBIN LOCKETT.
WE'LL COME BACK TO ROBIN.
LAST SPEAKER AFTER IS CHARLIE ADAMS.
THE SECOND.
10:29:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, CHAIR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I COME HERE AND WEAR A FEW HATS.
ONE BEING PRESIDENT OF SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IN REGARDS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF

OUR COMMUNITY.
AS WE ALL KNOW, IT IS A BLIGHTED AREA WITH COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON AND A FEW OTHERS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, AS WELL AS
HENDERSON, VIERA HAVE STOPPED BY.
WE HAVE CONVERSATION.
SPOKE TO ALL OF YOU.
MET YOU PERSONALLY.
WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT FIGHT TO CONTINUE AND THAT WE CONTINUE
THE EFFORTS TO REVITALIZE IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY
BECAUSE IT IS GREATLY NEEDED.
ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IN REGARDS TO SULPHUR SPRINGS
POOL AND MAKING SURE THAT STAY A FOCAL POINT FOR THE
COMMUNITY AS IT WAS ONCE A COMMUNITY HUB FOR MANY RESIDENTS
ME LEARN TO SWIM.
CURRENTLY CLOSED.
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE THAT FIGHT.
MY SECOND HAT, I'M DIRECTOR OF KIDS ON THE RIVER, A
NONPROFIT IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY.
AS WE ALL KNOW, SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY IS A FOOD DESERT.
AND AUTHORIZATION FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA THROUGH PARKS AND
RECREATION, TONY MULKEY, TO HOST A FARMERS MARKET OR THE
OFFICIAL SULPHUR SPRINGS FARMERS MARKET AT OUR -- I WOULD
LIKE TO CALL IT OUR BOTANICAL GARDEN.
IT'S A SMALL PENINSULA, MAYBE TWO ACRES OF LAND BETWEEN THE

NATURAL SPRING AND THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER IS WHERE I WILL BE
HOSTING THIS FARMERS MARKET TO CREATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
A SENSE OF CULTURAL PRIDE, CREATE JOBS, ET CETERA.
I HAVE ONE KEY CONCERN WITH THIS.
I WAS GIVEN THE AUTHORIZATION TO HOST ONE EVENT.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO
MAINTAIN THIS FARMERS MARKET OVER TIME.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE A
LONG-TERM LEASE AGREEMENT WITH PARKS AND REC AND THE CITY OF
TAMPA TO HOST THIS FARMERS MARKET BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT
TO HAPPEN, I PUT IN THE EFFORT.
I'VE BEEN BUILDING THIS MARKET NEARLY TWO YEARS.
IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE, AND IT WASN'T THOUGHT OF PRIOR TO
THIS.
THERE IS A WAY THAT I CAN HAVE A LONG-TERM LEASE AGREEMENT
WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WOULD CREATE A SENSE OF SECURITY
FOR ME.
THANK YOU.
10:31:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ROBIN LOCKETT IS OUR LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER.
10:32:04AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
FIRST, I WANT TO APPLAUD SULPHUR SPRINGS, THE COMMUNITY, FOR
COMING OUT AND TELLING THEIR TRUTH.
HOPEFULLY DURING THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS, THEY WON'T JUST BE

A TALKING POINT.
I FOUND OUT FROM MS. ROBINSON, THE LAST PERSON THAT SHE'S
KNOWN TO COME OUT THERE FROM COUNCIL HAS BEEN FROM THE GRECO
ERA.
DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS TRUE.
DON'T KNOW IF SHE MISSED YOU.
BUT SHE'S PROMINENT IN THAT COMMUNITY, SO SHE DIDN'T SEE.
GOOD THAT THEY ARE COMING OUT.
TELL A STORY, BE SEEN AND BE VIGILANT.
JUST CONTINUE TO TELL YOUR STORY.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR GRACING US WITH YOUR PRESENCE.
FLORIDA RISING COMING OUT AND MEETING US AND HAVING A
CONVERSATION.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
WE'RE GOING TO SET SOMETHING UP WITH YOU, MR. MIRANDA,
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:33:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO NAMES.
10:33:06AM >> OH.
ANYHOW, BUT THANK YOU.
YELLOW JACKETS, STILL IN THE FOREFRONT.
HOPEFULLY SOMETHING IS -- WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO MAKE
THE YELLOW JACKETS WHOLE.
THE YELLOW JACKETS BEING WHOLE MEANS A BUILDING AND THE
PARK, THE FIELD BEING USABLE FOR THE SENIOR LEAGUE.
SO WITH THAT BUILDING, THEY HAD A TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH

THEIR OLD FIELD, CONCESSION STAND ON THE BOTTOM AND OFFICE
ON THE TOP.
GET THE COACH AND ADMINISTRATION OUT OF THE TRAILER.
KEEPING THAT IN THE FOREFRONT.
BUDGET IS COMING UP.
HOPEFULLY SOMETHING IS ABLE TO BE PUT IN THE BUDGET.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WORK THAT COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON HAS STARTED ON AND JUST CONCLUDING THAT AS ONE OF
HER ITEMS.
SO THANK YOU.
10:34:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. LOCKETT.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE TO BOARD ADMINISTRATIVE
APPOINTMENT.
WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE LAURA HARRISON.
IS LAURA IN THE ROOM?
LET'S LET EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO LEAVE, LEAVE.
TAKE A PAUSE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, THE BAND SHELL
AT THE PARK, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A LINE ITEM IN THE STATE
BUDGET FOR THIS BY REPRESENTATIVE DIANNE HART AND SENATOR
ROUSON.
IT WAS VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR.
WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT IN THE BUDGET, THAT WAS VETOED BY THE

GOVERNOR.
FYI.
AND WE ARE LOOKING AT IT INTERNALLY.
THE BAND SHELL.
PERRY HARVEY PARK.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND A SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CONFIRM THE APPOINTMENT OF LAURA
HARRISON TO THE ARCHAEOLOGIST MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC
PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC SAFETY, LUIS VIERA, WE'LL REMOVE 25 FOR A SEPARATE
VOTE.
10:35:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, I MOVE ALL --
10:35:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
ITEM NUMBER 25.
IT WAS JUST A SEPARATE VOTE, RIGHT?
NO DISCUSSION.
MOTION FOR ITEM 25.
10:35:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO MOVED.

10:35:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 25.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
10:35:59AM >> NAY.
10:36:00AM >> NAY.
10:36:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE --
10:36:03AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND CARLSON VOTING
NO.
10:36:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT IS NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
10:36:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
10:36:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
28 THROUGH 38.
10:36:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
AND I WANT TO THANK A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC FOR REMINDING ME
ABOUT ITEM 36.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE ITEMS 28 THROUGH 35 AND 37 AND
38.
10:36:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
10:36:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL ITEMS
EXCEPT FOR 36.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
10:36:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THE REASON IS, THEY DID BRING UP THE IDEA

THAT WHY ARE WE DOING THIS NOW?
IF THIS GETS STARTED NOW, IT'S PROBABLY NOT EVEN GOING TO BE
ABLE TO GET STARTED UNTIL AUGUST.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY A SUMMER YOUTH INTERNSHIP TRAINING IS
COMING NOW INSTEAD --
10:37:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I ACTUALLY HAD THE SAME QUERY.
I TOLD THIS WAS REIMBURSABLE.
IT ONLY REIMBURSES ACTUAL EXPENSES.
10:37:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THESE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ON -- IT'S ALREADY
ACTIVE.
OKAY.
10:37:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S HOW IT WAS ADVISED TO ME.
AYES HAVE IT ON ALL ITEMS FROM 28 THROUGH 35 AND --
10:37:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN ADD 36 IN THERE, TOO.
I HAD A QUESTION AND YOU ANSWERED IT.
ITEMS 28 THROUGH 38.
10:37:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:37:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT 34 FOR HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY VETERANS HELPING VETERANS, 25,000.
THEY ARE A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.
MIKE ODELL, AND IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'RE, I KNOW, GOING

TO INCREASE -- SHOULD BE INCREASING OUTREACH TO VETERANS AND
THIS IS PART OF IT.
THEY ARE A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION, ESPECIALLY WITH HOMELESS
VETERANS, HELPING PAY FOR BILLS.
LET YOU ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE FUNDING.
GREAT GROUP.
10:38:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS ALREADY IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
THIS IS CONFIRMING THE AGREEMENT.
10:38:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT WAS PASTED LAST SEPTEMBER.
10:38:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE GOING TO INFRASTRUCTURE, COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO WITHOUT -- REMOVING ITEMS 47 AND 48.
10:38:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE 39 THROUGH 50, EXCEPT 47 AND 48
WHICH WERE PULLED FOR LATER DISCUSSION.
10:38:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, 51 THROUGH 57.
10:38:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEMS 51 THROUGH 57.
10:38:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND
FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE, WE
HAVE ITEMS 58 THROUGH 73.
ITEM 70 HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
10:38:48AM >> SO MOVED.
10:38:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOBILITY AND ASSET MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, 74 THROUGH 80.
10:38:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 74 THROUGH 80.
10:39:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:39:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO SET 81, 82, 83 FOR PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
10:39:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SET 81, 82, 83 FOR
PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:39:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC

HEARINGS.
10:39:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO OPEN 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPEN.
THIS IS A NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
IS THERE ANYBODY TO PRESENT THIS ITEM?
ITEM NUMBER 84.
10:39:51AM >>CARL BRODY:
CARL BRODY FROM LEGAL.
THIS IS SECOND READING FOR THE CONTRACTOR CODE OF CONDUCT.
WE DISCUSSED IT LAST TIME.
IT IS TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC ISSUES, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE PROVIDING THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE AND AVAILABLE.
10:40:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:40:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST AGAIN WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK
ON THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ASKING FOR QUITE
A BIT.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:40:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DID YOU HAVE

SOMETHING TO SAY?
10:40:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, SIR.
10:40:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO ITEM 84?
MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:40:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
10:40:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO, A SECOND FROM -- I'M SORRY.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 84?
10:40:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE FILE 84, FILE NUMBER E2025-8, CHAPTER
26.5, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
AMENDING CHAPTER 26.5, ARTICLE I OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE,
BY ADDING SECTION 26.5-4, CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF BUSINESS
CONDUCT, SAID AMENDMENT PROVIDING FOR A CODE OF BUSINESS
CONDUCT FOR PARTIES CONTRACTING WITH THE CITY, PROVIDING
ENFORCEMENT THROUGH THE DIVISION OF EQUAL BUSINESS
OPPORTUNITY, PROVIDING FOR DISPUTE RESOLUTION, PROVIDING FOR
AN APPEAL PROCESS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

10:41:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
10:41:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:41:38AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:41:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NOW WE'RE MOVING TO PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT REQUIRE FOLKS TO BE
SWORN IN.
IF YOU ARE HERE ON ANY ITEM FROM 85 TO 89, PLEASE STAND,
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:41:59AM >> YES.
10:42:00AM >> YES.
10:42:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE ONLINE PEOPLE.
ITEM 85, WHO IS HERE TO PRESENT FOR 85?
10:42:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
THIS IS LEO DEBARDELEBEN.
ITEM 85 --
10:42:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON, LEO.
NOW WE SEE YOU.
THANK YOU.
10:42:20AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
ITEM 85 IS AB 2-25-03 FOR THE PROPERTY
AT 2330 WEST HORATIO STREET.
REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON

PREMISES ONLY.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED.
A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:42:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
10:42:53AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE APPLICANT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:43:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 85?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
CAN I HAVE COUNCILMAN VIERA READ ITEM 85, PLEASE.
10:43:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,

CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED
AT 2330 WEST HORATIO STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:43:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
10:43:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS ABSENT ON THE FIRST VOTE.
I HAVE REVIEWED THE FILES AND WATCHED THE HEARINGS ON THESE.
I'M PREPARED TO VOTE.
THANK YOU.
10:43:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
SECOND.
10:44:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:44:09AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:44:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 86, WHO IS GOING TO PRESENT?
10:44:18AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 86 IS AB 2-25-05.
IT IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1601 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE

CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED
TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:44:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
MS. SCHALER, I ASSUME YOU'RE PRESENTING FOR THIS.
10:44:54AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
AS LEO MENTIONED, SITE PLAN REVISIONS MADE ON THIS ONE AND
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
10:45:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 86?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ ITEM 86?
10:45:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE AB 2-25-05, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR

ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES/OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION, AND
MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT,
PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1601 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:45:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:45:59AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:46:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 87.
LEO.
10:46:04AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
GOOD MORNING AGAIN, CHAIRMAN AND
COUNCIL.
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 87 IS AB 2-25-08 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2701 NORTH
16th STREET.
REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY.
THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.

THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE PLANS HAVE BEEN
CERTIFIED AND A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:46:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MS. SCHALER.
10:46:36AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS
ONE.
10:46:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK TO ITEM 87?
MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:46:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE TO READ IT.
10:46:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY, SIR.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
JUMPING AHEAD.
MR. MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ ITEM 87?
10:47:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE APPROVING A
SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL
VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE

SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE
AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
LOCATED AT 2701 NORTH 16th STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:47:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
SORRY.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:47:36AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:47:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVING ON TO 88, LEO.
10:47:42AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 88 IS AB 2-25-09 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1530 EAST
COLUMBUS DRIVE.
REQUEST IS FOR SMALL -- ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, FOR CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED.
A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:48:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
MS. SCHALER.
10:48:12AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
10:48:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 88?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, PLEASE, READ ON 88.
10:48:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 88, FILE AB 2-25-09, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING
LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR
TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1530 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING
THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE
REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:49:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:49:17AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:49:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE MOVING ALONG TO ITEM 89.
10:49:25AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 89 IS AB 2-25-10 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1509 EAST
COLUMBUS DRIVE.
REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY, SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE
MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED
TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:49:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NO QUESTIONS, MS. SCHALER.
10:49:55AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
10:50:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO ITEM 89?
HEARING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, PLEASE READ ITEM 89.
10:50:14AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE NUMBER 89, FILE NUMBER AB 2-25-10,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU 2
FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON
THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1509 EAST
COLUMBUS DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:50:53AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
I REALIZE THE AGENDA SAYS SECOND
READING AND CONSIDERATION.
COULD WE MODIFY THAT TO SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:50:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, PLEASE READ THAT
PORTION INTO THE RECORD.
10:51:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MODIFY MOTION TO SAY SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION.

10:51:09AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THANK YOU.
10:51:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST TO BE CLEAR, SCRIVENER ERROR ON THE
WRITING WE HAVE HERE.
WE JUST CORRECTED THAT.
IT WAS AN ADOPTION HEARING.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:51:27AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:51:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES THE 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK PULLED 47 AND 48, ARE WE PREPARED TO
TALK ABOUT THOSE?
WE HAVE 92.
10:51:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, BECAUSE IT IS A
SCRIVENER'S ERROR, YOU CAN JUST READ IT AND VOTE ON IT FOR
FIRST READING.
10:51:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
92 IS A SCRIVENER ERROR.
IT'S NOT SUBSTANTIVE.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MS. WELLS.
10:52:06AM >>CATE WELLS:
GOOD MORNING.
CATE WELLS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS SIMPLY CORRECTING THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION.
WHEN THIS WAS PROCESSED MANY YEARS AGO, THE SITE PLAN DID

INCLUDE TWO LOTS.
THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION UNFORTUNATELY ONLY INCLUDED ONE.
BUT IT WAS PROPERLY NOTICED.
I SEE NO REASON WHY WE COULDN'T PROCEED JUST WITH THE
SCRIVENER ERROR ORDINANCE TODAY.
10:52:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 92?
10:52:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SURE.
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER
2004-14, PASSED AND ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF TAMPA ON JANUARY 8, 2004, REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL CAN VICINITY OF 4905 PRICE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY
SUBSTITUTING A CORRECTED LEGAL DESCRIPTION ATTACHED TO SAID
ORDINANCE AS EXHIBIT A, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:53:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS BACK.
YOU PULLED 47 AND 48.
10:53:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THAT BEFORE THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE?

10:53:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN DO IT NOW.
CHIEF BENNETT IS NOT HERE.
10:53:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT 47 AND 48.
WE HEARD A LOT FROM THE PUBLIC TODAY ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE, WHICH NO MONEY HAS BEEN
SPENT FROM, IS THAT WHEN IT WAS APPROVED IN 2019, THERE WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE A REPORTING COMPONENT.
THE REPORTING COMPONENT WAS NEVER DONE BECAUSE THEY SAID,
WELL, WE HAVEN'T EXPENDED ANY OF THE MONEY.
THE PROBLEM IS, WE HAVE BEEN TAKING IN MONEY.
THERE'S ALSO A REPORTING REQUIREMENT THAT WENT ALONG WITH
THAT WHICH THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DOING.
WE DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN COMING IN.
THEY WERE REQUIRED TO PUT IT -- EACH.
OKAY.
EACH PAYMENT INTO THE FUND, ALONG WITH THE IDENTIFYING
INFORMATION OF THE SOURCE OF SUCH FUNDS, SUCH AS
CORRESPONDING PERMIT NUMBER AND THE EXPENDITURES, INCLUDING
THE TYPE OF TREE.
BY TYPE OF TREE, IT HAS TO BE LABELED TYPE ONE, TWO, OR
THREE OR PALM.
AND THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT GOES INTO
THIS.
SO MY CONCERN, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL OUT THE SECTION, THAT IF
WE GO BACK TO 47 AND 48, PORTION OF THIS IS FOR -- A PORTION

OF THIS IS TO ADD MONEY TO THE CONTRACT TO PAY THESE FOLKS
OUT OF THE PIPES PROGRAM.
THE OTHER IS TO APPROPRIATE MONEY FROM THE TREE FUND.
I RECOMMEND THAT WE POSTPONE MOVING THE TREE FUND MONEY
UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY -- AND I HAVE ASKED MR. BAIRD.
HE'S PROVIDED ME A LIST OF THE TREES, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE
COST OF THE TREES.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM.
AS MS. BENNETT SO CLEARLY STATED IN ONE MOTION, IN 47, IT
HAS IT AS 52,000 COMING FROM CENTRAL AND 282 COMING FROM
SOUTH, AND IN 48, IT HAS THE OPPOSITE.
IT'S CLEARLY NOT -- WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRY TO FIGURE
THIS OUT, BUT, QUITE FRANKLY, WHAT I PLAN TO DO RIGHT NOW, I
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACTUALLY GET THE
TRACKING FOR ALL THE MONEY THAT HAS COME INTO THIS, WHICH
APPARENTLY WE HAVE $5 MILLION AND WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S
COME IN, WHERE IT'S COME IN.
THEY HAVEN'T FOLLOWED THE ACTUAL REPORTING THAT THEY ARE
REQUIRED TO DO.
LET ME JUST MAKE A MOTION AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL THINK.
BEFORE WE APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF $334,748.48 FROM THE SOUTH
TAMPA AND CENTRAL TAMPA TREE TRUST FUNDS, I WANT TO SEE THE
DATA REQUIRED TO CREATE THE ANNUAL REPORT REFERENCED IN
CHAPTER 27, SECTION 16-86, SUBSECTION F REPORTING.
WHICH STATES, A TRACKING AND REPORTING SYSTEM FOR EACH OF

THE FIVE TRUST FUNDS SHALL BE ESTABLISHED TO TRACK EACH
PAYMENT MADE INTO THE FUND AND EACH MITIGATION TREE PLANTED.
ANNUALLY, A REPORT SHALL BE PREPARED FOR EACH FUND AND
FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.
ONE, EACH PAYMENT MADE INTO THE FUND ALONG WITH THE
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION OF THE SOURCE OF SUCH FUNDS SUCH AS
THE CORRESPONDING BUILDING PERMIT NUMBER.
TWO, EACH EXPENDITURE FROM THE FUND, INCLUDING THE TYPES AND
NUMBERS OF TREES.
THREE, THE COORDINATES OR OTHER PHYSICAL LOCATION
INFORMATION OF MITIGATION TREES PLANTED BY THE CITY WITH
FUNDS EXPENDED FROM THE TRUST FUND.
FOUR, THE STATUS OF THE HEALTH OF EACH MITIGATION TREE
PLANTED AT THE SIX-MONTH AND ONE-YEAR MARK AFTER PLANTING.
THESE ARE ALL QUOTES FROM THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
BY TYPES OF TREES, THE ORDINANCE IS REFERRING TO TYPE ONE,
TWO, THREE, OR PALM AS STATED IN TABLE 284.3.2-A WHICH IS
THE CITY TREE MATRIX.
BOTH BUILDERS AND T-TAG AGREE THEY WANT TO SEE THE DATA
COLLECTED FOR FIVE SEPARATE PLANNING DISTRICTS, CENTRAL
TAMPA, WESTSHORE, UNIVERSITY, NEW TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA BEFORE
WE MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE CURRENT TREE TRUST FUND ORDINANCE
OR WE EXPEND ANY MONEY FROM THE FUND.
10:57:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
10:57:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:58:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT.
CONCERNS BROUGHT UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR TREE
CANOPY, BUT IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
A GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THAT SOME MONEY WAS GOING TO PIPES,
COMPARED IT TO THE LOTTERY HOW THEY SAID THAT WAS TO FUND
EDUCATION OR SOCIAL SECURITY.
EVERYTHING GETS RAIDED.
IN THIS CASE, AT OUR LEVEL, OUR JURISDICTION, WITH TREES,
THIS KIND OF TRACKING AND AUDITING SYSTEM ESSENTIALLY I
THINK PUTS -- MAY PUT THE PUBLIC AT EASE KNOWING THERE IS AN
EXTRA SET OF EYES ON THIS.
WE SEE IT AND IT'S TRANSPARENT.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS.
10:58:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
I AGREE.
I THINK THIS WILL CLEAR IT UP.
10:58:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:58:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE.
THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK FOR WORKING WITH THE
COMMUNITY ON THAT RESEARCH AS WELL.

SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE PROBABLY CAN TELL US, SINCE I'VE
BEEN ON COUNCIL SIX YEARS, THIS IS THE THIRD OR FOURTH TIME
THIS HAS COME UP THAT THERE'S NO REPORTING.
WE'VE ASKED FOR IT MULTIPLE TIMES AND NOT REPORTED.
WHEN WE GET READY TO GO THROUGH THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT MAYBE WHAT A PENALTY MIGHT
BE TO AN ADMINISTRATION FOR NOT GIVING INFORMATION.
LASTLY, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION TO CONTINUE
THESE?
10:59:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
WELL, YEAH.
THIS IS BASICALLY A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.
10:59:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT IS NOT A SEPARATE MOTION.
I ASK IT BE TWO MOTIONS.
YOUR MOTION THE WAY IT WAS STATED IS QUITE CLEAR, AS LONG AS
THE CLERK GETS A COPY.
10:59:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A VERY NICELY TYPED OUT COPY.
10:59:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I BRIEFLY SAW MR. BAIRD POP UP.
DID YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM MR. BAIRD, STAFF, BEFORE YOU
SPEAK?
10:59:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, WE CAN HAVE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS
BECAUSE THE PROBLEM WITH THE MOTION, AND THIS IS WHAT THE
COMMUNITY HAS SAID IS THAT RIGHT NOW THEY PUT TWO, OR THEY
PUT MULTIPLE THINGS IN ONE MOTION.

THEY WANT TO MOVE MONEY FROM ONE PLACE AND TO OTHER PLACES.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MOVING THE MONEY FROM THE PIPES
PORTION.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO MOVE THE MONEY FOR THE TREE PORTION
UNTIL WE HAVE THE REPORT WE NEED.
11:00:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS A SEPARATE SUBJECT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT UP NOW.
OR THE NEXT MOTION YOU INTEND TO MAKE.
HERE IS MY POINT.
MY POINT IS BASED ON WHAT YOUR MOTION IS NOW, WHICH MAY, I
ASSUME MIGHT PASS, YOU'RE PRESENTED WITH TWO RESOLUTIONS IN
THE PRESENT FORM.
YOUR OPTIONS ARE EITHER TO VOTE IT UP, VOTE IT DOWN, OR
CONTINUE IT.
YOU CAN'T MAKE CHANGES.
IF THE ADMINISTRATION DURING THE CONTINUANCE WANTS TO DO A
SUBSTITUTION, THEY CAN.
IF YOU DEFEAT IT, THEY CAN COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF
RESOLUTIONS.
11:01:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY DON'T WE VOTE ON THE MOTION I HAVE ABOUT
THE REPORT.
11:01:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION -- WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE
STAFF CHIME IN BEFORE WE MAKE THE VOTE?
BRAD BAIRD, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE?

11:01:25AM >>BRAD BAIRD:
BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE ADDED THIS TREE PLANTING TO THIS CONTRACT AS A SEPARATE
ITEM AS PART OF THIS CHANGE ORDER.
IT WAS ACTUALLY AN IDEA THAT OUR FORMER SUSTAINABILITY AND
RESILIENCY OFFICER, WHIT REMER HAD.
SO WE AGREED TO DO THAT AND THE CONTRACTOR AGREED TO DO
THAT.
WE ENDED UP PLANTING 225 TREES WITH THE CONSENT OF OUR
RESIDENTS IF THEY WERE IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES TO PLANT
THOSE TREES.
AND WE DID THAT.
11:02:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
11:02:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, I JUST WANT -- WE JUST WANT THE
TRACKING AND REPORTING TO BE CORRECT VIA THE ORDINANCE
BEFORE WE START MOVING MONEY OUT OF THIS FUND.
I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT.
MAYBE, MR. PERRY, YOU CAN SAY HOW WE CAN SEPARATE THESE OR
DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
LIKE I SAID, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MOVING THE PIPES PORTION
OF THIS, BUT THE TREE PORTION, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE THE
MONEY UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM AND WHERE IT'S
GOING.
THE REPORTING WAS NOT DONE BASED ON THE ORDINANCE.
11:02:41AM >> MIKE PERRY, BUDGET OFFICER.

THE MISTAKE IS SOLELY MY RESPONSIBILITY IN THE BUDGET
OFFICE.
I DO APOLOGIZE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE GOT THE WRONG TREE TRUST DIVISION.
WE DID PREPARE A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION, BUT IT DOES NOT
APPEAR THAT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF YOU TAKE THE TREE TRUST RESOLUTION OUT OF THE FUNDING
PROCESS FOR THE PIPES AND HOPEFULLY BRAD IS STILL LISTENING,
THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS SUFFICIENT APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY
TO COVER THE TREE PLANTING CURRENTLY.
11:03:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
11:03:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU REALLY NEED ITEM
47 MOVED AND ITEM 48 -- COULD WE REMOVE THAT FROM THE AGENDA
BASED ON WHAT I JUST HEARD?
11:03:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:03:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR MOTION IS SEPARATE.
11:03:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S JUST MOVE MY MOTION FIRST.
11:03:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THAT AND WE'VE HEARD
STAFF, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
OPPOSED?
UNANIMOUS.
11:03:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL MOVE ITEM 47, WHICH IS APPROVING THE

CHANGE ORDER.
11:03:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL SECOND THAT.
11:03:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR THE RECORD, JUST SO I KNOW, THERE IS NO
REFERENCE IN NUMBER 47 WHATSOEVER TO ANYTHING RELATED TO
TREES.
EXPENDITURE OF TREES OR ANYTHING RELATED TO TREES.
11:04:09AM >> JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
LINE ITEMS 2 AND 3 IN THE CHANGE ORDER DOCUMENT DO REFERENCE
TREES.
IT REFERENCES THE NUMBER OF TREES AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
11:04:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN NEVER MIND.
WE'LL WAIT ON 47 AND 48.
11:04:22AM >> I BELIEVE WHAT MR. PERRY WAS SAYING, THERE ARE SUFFICIENT
FUNDS TO PAY THAT PARTICULAR CHANGE ORDER, BUT HE CAN
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
11:04:30AM >> MIKE PERRY, BUDGET OFFICER.
BASICALLY THE WATER DEPARTMENT WOULD BE PAYING FOR THE
TREES.
11:04:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, I THINK I WOULD RATHER HAVE A MORE
CLEAN ORDINANCE OR A CLEAN RESOLUTION COME BACK TO US, IF
THAT'S POSSIBLE.
IF WE COULD MOVE IT -- I MOTION THAT WE MOVE THE AMENDED 47
AND 48, IF WE CAN --
11:04:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE IS NO AMENDED.
WHAT ELSE BESIDES TREES IS IN 47 AND 48 THAT YOU NEED MOVED?

11:05:02AM >> YOU'VE GOT THE CHANGE ORDER RIGHT HERE.
FOR INSTANCE, JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THE CHANGE ORDER HAS LIKE PAVING --
11:05:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU PUT IT ON THE WOLF?
11:05:21AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF ITEMS SUBJECT TO THE
CHANGE ORDER.
CO 1-3 AND CO 1-4, THOSE ARE THE TREES.
11:05:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU ALL COME BACK AFTER LUNCH WITH A
CLEANED UP VERSION OF THIS THAT WE CAN MOVE?
11:05:36AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
IF YOU'RE ASKING THIS, IF YOU MEAN THE
CHANGE ORDER, ULTIMATELY --
11:05:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT COUNCIL HAS TO MOVE DOES NOT INCLUDE
TREES.
JUST A CONCISE DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO
MOVE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE TREES.
11:05:51AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
ANDREA ZELMAN, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
IT INCLUDES TREES BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE HOW THE TREES ARE
BEING PAID FOR.
IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH APPROVING IT AND YOU JUST WANT TO KEEP
APART THE FACT THE USE OF THE TREE TRUST FUND, YOU'RE DOING
THAT BY NOT APPROVING 48, YOU CAN STILL APPROVE 47.
11:06:10AM >> WE CAN APPROVE 47 AND IT DOES NOT TAKE MONEY FROM THE
TREE TRUST FUND.
11:06:15AM >> THAT IS CORRECT.
11:06:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE 47 THEN.

11:06:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ALREADY HAD A MOTION TO MOVE 47 AND A
SECOND FROM -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
IS THAT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY?
CLEAR AS MUD TO ME.
11:06:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, IT ISN'T.
11:06:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:06:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GET THAT.
MR. SHELBY.
11:06:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF COUNCIL HAS AN ISSUE WITH THE ORDINANCE,
WITH THE RESOLUTIONS AS PRESENTED BY THE BASIS OF YOUR FIRST
MOTION, THEN IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE THEN FOR YOU TO MOVE 47
AND 48 UNTIL THOSE ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED TO YOUR SATISFACTION.
THAT COULD BE DONE BY A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
THAT COULD BE DONE BY DEFEATING THESE OR REJECTING THESE AND
HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ELSE OR IT
COMES BACK WITH CONTINUANCES.
11:07:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PERSON ON STAFF THAT CAN SPEAK TO THIS.
IS THERE SOMETHING DETRIMENTAL TO THE CONTRACTS IF WE
CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING?
11:07:15AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
MY CONCERN IS WE HAVE CERTAIN STATUTORY TIMELINES TO APPROVE
CHANGE ORDERS.
IT'S ONLY GETTING MORE RESTRICTIVE AS THE LEGISLATURE PASSES
LAWS RELEVANT TO THAT.

11:07:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, ARE WE WITHIN A
STATUTORY OBLIGATION ON THIS CONTRACT IF WE CONTINUE THIS TO
THE NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING?
11:07:35AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
YES, POTENTIALLY AS OF JULY 1, THERE IS A
CHANGE --
11:07:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN AFTER LUNCH.
11:07:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I INDULGE YOU ALL TO COME BACK TO US
WITH SOMETHING TRIMMED DOWN AND CLEANER THAT DOES NOT
INCLUDE THE TREES, THAT IS A CONCISE RESOLUTION THAT THIS
COUNCIL CAN PASS?
11:07:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DOES THAT REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE CHANGE
ORDER?
11:07:53AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY HERE.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS TO DELETE LINE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE
PAID IN THIS CHANGE ORDER.
11:08:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
PERHAPS I CAN CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL AND THEY CAN COME BACK
AND EXPLAIN THIS AFTER LUNCH.
11:08:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I ASK, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU
CONSIDER NOT MOVING YOUR MOTION, THIS MOTION UNTIL AFTER
LUNCH?
11:08:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BEFORE I GO FORWARD, WHAT WAS NOT IN MY
MOTION IS THE DATE I WANT THIS BACK.
THAT WAS OCTOBER 9, 2025.
THAT GIVES FOUR MONTHS TO DO THE TREE REPORT.

11:08:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S COME BACK TO THE CONTINUATION FOR
THAT IN ONE SECOND.
RIGHT NOW ON THE FLOOR, WE MOVED 47 WITH A SECOND.
11:08:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL RESCIND MY MOTION AND INSTEAD MAKE 47
AND 48 COME BACK AFTER LUNCH FIRST THING.
11:08:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU ALL GET TOGETHER AND
COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCISE
AND EASIER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND AFTER LUNCH THAT WE COULD
MOVE ON?
WE CAN WORK ON THAT AFTER LUNCH.
UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT WE'LL TAKE THIS UP AFTER LUNCH.
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WITHOUT OBJECTION.
YOU WOULD LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE THE DATE.
11:09:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO OCTOBER 9, 2025.
11:09:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO
ADD OCTOBER 9, 2025, TO THE CONTINUATION REQUEST.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
11:09:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALSO JUST TO SAY IF STAFF HAS ANY QUESTIONS,
JUST REACH OUT TO ME, BUT THE ORDINANCE IS PRETTY CLEAR.
11:09:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT IS 11:10.
EVEN WITH THAT, WE ARE WAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
11:09:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN MOVE SOMETHING ALONG
THAT'S ON THE STAFF REPORT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE STAFF.
THAT'S NUMBER 95, A BIG-TICKET ITEM.
11:10:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE GET A MOTION ON ITEM 95?
11:10:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
11:10:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
95 UNANIMOUS.
11:10:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO SEE WHO FROM
STAFF IS PRESENT IN CHAMBERS OR ONLINE THAT CAN ADDRESS
WHICHEVER ITEM.
11:10:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY FROM STAFF THAT WOULD LIKE TO
ADDRESS A STAFF REPORT NOW?
MR. BENNETT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE
UPDATE.
11:10:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
AFTER THAT'S FINISHED, I DON'T KNOW IF HE WILL
BE HERE NEXT WEEK, IF I INTRODUCE MY INTERN.
11:11:00AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT.
CHIEF OF STAFF.
AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST I WANTED TO COME BACK IN.
I KNOW A COUPLE OF MEMOS HAVE BEEN FILED, BUT IT'S BEEN

REQUESTED AND BEEN SOME OFF-LINE SINGULAR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT
THIS TOPIC.
I WAS ASKED TO COME IN AND MAYBE JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT I
THINK WE ALL AGREE ON WHICH IS CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT IN
LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ESPECIALLY AS IT PERTAINS FOR OUR
PERSONNEL.
FOR THE PUBLIC AWARENESS WE HAVE NEARLY 5,000 EMPLOYEES.
IN A CITY THAT SERVES 400,000 PLUS DAILY, INFLUX OF ANOTHER
COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
EVERY OTHER MONDAY I GET THE PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE BOTH
COUNCIL, THE ADMINISTRATION, AND ALL OF OUR BRANCHES TO NEW
EMPLOYEES AS THEY ENTER THE WORKFORCE HERE.
WE'VE HAD OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND APPLICATIONS IN THIS
ADMINISTRATION.
WE'VE HIRED ABOUT 3,000 AGAINST THAT 5,000 THROUGH NORMAL
ATTRITION.
AND WE LOOK FOR ANYTHING THAT IS PROBLEMATIC, SYSTEMIC,
ET CETERA.
AGAIN, ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT COMES OUT IN THIS ROOM AND, OF
COURSE, THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKED AT FOR
OPPORTUNITIES.
SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ADDENDUM
MEMO THAT I SENT IN THROUGH OUR OFFICE BEFORE THIS SESSION.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE IS I KNOW ANONYMITY SOMETIMES IS IMPORTANT IN

COMPLAINTS.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REINFORCE THAT THERE IS AN
ANONYMOUS HOTLINE BOTH FOR FRAUD AND EMPLOYEE ISSUES.
ONCE THAT GOES THROUGH THE CITY AUDIT DEPARTMENT, THEN IT
GETS TRIAGED FOR ITS NEXT STEP.
IT COULD BE IF IT IS FRAUD, IT COULD CONTINUE IN THE AUDIT
DEPARTMENT.
IT COULD BE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
IT COULD BE OUTSOURCED TO A LEGAL INVESTIGATION.
MYRIAD OF THINGS COULD HAPPEN THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT IT
STARTS THERE JUST TO ALLOW, WHETHER IT IS THE PUBLIC OR A
CITIZEN OR ANYBODY TO CALL THAT HOTLINE.
AGAIN, MANAGED AND OVERSEEN BY THE CITY AUDIT DEPARTMENT AS
A PROCESS, NOT SOLELY THAT THEY HANDLE THE WORK OR REPORT TO
THE ADMINISTRATION.
JUST AN IN-TAKING MEASURE.
WE HAVE MANY OTHER IN-TAKING MEASURES BUT I WANTED TO MAKE
SURE I COVERED THAT ONE.
NEXT, I WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL AND ESPECIALLY THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION.
OF COURSE, EVERYBODY ON THE SUPPORT SIDE THAT ALLOWS THESE
OUTSIDE CONTRACTS.
THAT GIVES US A PLETHORA OF OPPORTUNITIES TO DO UNIQUE
INVESTIGATIONS OR ESCALATING INVESTIGATIONS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WORKING WITH

ANDREA'S OFFICE IS STILL AN EVOLVING BEST PRACTICE AS
NEEDED, AGAIN, WITH FOUR GENERATIONS IN THE WORKFORCE, THERE
ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT DYNAMICS.
I'LL LEAD INTO THAT IN A SECOND, OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH
EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION, MORALE, ET CETERA.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT DURING COVID, TRYING TO TELEWORK UNDER
THE CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT, CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS IS
VERY CHALLENGING, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.
COUNCIL WAS MOVED; EMPLOYEES WERE MOVED.
TECHNOLOGY PROCESSES WERE SHIFTED TO GET US THROUGH THE
COVID PERIOD.
AS THAT SETTLES, THEN YOU HAVE STORMS THAT DISRUPT THINGS.
AGAIN, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF CHALLENGES IN
LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND TO ALLOW THAT TO SETTLE TO A DEGREE, GET A GOOD SURVEY
INSTRUMENT FROM A STANDARDIZED METHODOLOGY TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE EMPLOYEES IS JUST
ANOTHER FACET.
WE'LL BE LOOKING INTO THAT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE
BEST TOOL COMING FORWARD, WHICH USUALLY IS AN ELONGATED
PROCESS AND TYPICALLY A PRETTY HEALTHY BUDGET ITEM.
WE WANT TO KEEP EXPLORING THAT.
LASTLY, I THINK ANDREA IS HERE TO REINFORCE SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT IF COUNCIL GETS A COMPLAINT, ALL THE DIFFERENT
CHANNELS TO PASS THAT COMPLAINT TO THIS TRIAGE PROCESS,

WHETHER IT'S THE ETHICS OFFICE, THE HR OFFICE, THE CITY
CLERK -- I'M SORRY, THE CITY AUDITOR FOR THE ANONYMOUS, LIKE
I DID ONE DAY WHEN I HEARD SOMETHING, I LAUNCHED SOMETHING
RIGHT AWAY TO MAKE SURE THE TRIAGE PROCESS -- THE LAST THING
I WILL TALK ABOUT WHICH I WAS ASKED TO DO, DISCUSS
ESCALATION.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT.
EVEN THOUGH ABOUT 3800 OR 5,000 EMPLOYEES ARE IN SOME SORT
OF BARGAINING UNIT, WHETHER THE ATU, IFF OR PBA, THEY ALL
HAVE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT TO FILE GRIEVANCES, GET FOLLOW-UPS,
ESCALATE GRIEVANCES, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE PROCESSES FOR CIVIL
SERVICE HEARINGS AND, OF COURSE, ARBITRATIONS THAT ARE
BINDING.
ALL THESE THINGS CAN CONTINUE THAT PROCESS TO THE DESIRED
OUTCOME, NOT TO MENTION THERE ARE OUTSIDE PROCESSES THAT CAN
BE USED AND EMPLOYEES CAN MOVE IN THOSE DIRECTIONS WITH THAT
GUIDANCE.
EVEN ABOVE THAT, EVEN IF YOU ARE OUTSIDE THE BARGAINING
SYSTEM, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYEES TO BE TREATED
FAIRLY IN A GRIEVANCE PROCESS AND, OF COURSE, AN ESCALATION
PROCESS AS WELL.
AGAIN, BIG ORGANIZATION.
A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
I BELIEVE IN OUR HR DEPARTMENT.
I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1984 AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF GOOD

OUTCOMES.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS EVERYTHING ON MONDAY -- I SAID THIS
IN THIS ROOM BEFORE, I TELL THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT IF IT GETS
TO MY DESK BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT AND IT ESCALATES, I WILL
PERSONALLY STOP EVERYTHING I'M DOING, TAKE A LOOK AT THE
CASE AND MAKE SURE IT TRIES TO GET THE PROPER JUSTICE LANE
GOING.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T MAKE DISCIPLINE DECISIONS IN A
VACUUM.
THEY ALL COME TO ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATORS EACH CASE TO MAKE
SURE THERE'S FAIRNESS ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS ON DIFFERENT
THINGS, ESPECIALLY IN SEVERE CASES.
I'LL PAUSE THERE AND SEE IF COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS.
11:16:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE WE GET TO COUNCIL QUESTIONS,
CAUTION EVERYONE, YOU KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN
LABOR AND ALSO HR.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING.
IF CASES ARE BEING HEARD, WE DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS SPECIFIC
CASES BECAUSE THEY COULD BE IN LITIGATION.
WE DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS ACTUAL INDIVIDUALS.
IF YOU HAVE BROAD QUESTIONS ABOUT POLICY, I THINK
APPROPRIATE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT NOT DELVE INTO
ANYTHING SPECIFIC AT COUNCIL.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON FIRST.
11:17:00AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK CHIEF OF STAFF AND

THE CITY ATTORNEY.
CHIEF OF STAFF AND I HAVE HAD THREE OR FOUR LONG
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS.
CITY ATTORNEY SAT IN ON A COUPLE OF THEM.
WE'VE HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ALL THIS.
WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS OR YEAR IS THAT
I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF CALLS AND E-MAILS.
PULLED PUBLIC RECORDS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE ARE ALL -- I SEND THEM TO THE PUBLIC
RECORDS PEOPLE.
BUT THEY ARE REALLY DISTURBING WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE
COMPLAINTS AND YOU WANT TO HELP EMPLOYEES.
WE'VE HEARD EMPLOYEES COME BEFORE US IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAD A LETTER LAST NIGHT FROM THE FIRE UNION, AND WE HAD
ANOTHER LETTER LAST NIGHT FROM ANOTHER FORMER EMPLOYEE.
THE OVERRIDING THEMES ARE THEY FEEL LIKE THERE IS NOT AN
ANONYMOUS SAFE PLACE THEY CAN GO TO MAKE COMPLAINTS.
AND THEN THE WORD THAT COMES UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS
RETALIATION.
THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT RETALIATION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
BY MAKING A COMPLAINT, THEY ARE WORRIED THAT SOMEONE IN THE
ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO RETALIATE AGAINST THEM.
THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE SPECIFIC
EXAMPLES.
THE CHARTER AS CITY ATTORNEY WILL TELL US, THE CHARTER

DRASTICALLY LIMITS WHAT CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE CAN BE IN ANY OF
THIS BECAUSE THE MAYOR CLEARLY IS IN CHARGE OF THE
ADMINISTRATION.
WE CAN ENCOURAGE.
WE CAN LOBBY.
WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT WHICH WE'VE DONE SEVERAL
TIMES.
THE RESULT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS IS THAT THE CHIEF OF
STAFF, HE JUST OUTLINED THINGS BUT PUSHED TO MAKE THE HOT
LINE TO MAKE SURE THE HOT LINE IS FAIR, OBJECTIVE, AND NOT A
PLACE WHERE SOMEBODY RATS SOMEBODY OUT AND SOMEBODY GETS
RETALIATED AGAINST.
I HOPE THAT'S TRUE IN THAT PROCESS.
HE'S USING THE LEGAL CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED TO GO AHEAD
AND INVESTIGATE SOME OF THESE.
I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION NAMES, BUT THERE ARE INVESTIGATIONS
GOING ON AND SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS MADE BY CURRENT AND
FORMER EMPLOYEES.
HE'S COMMITTED TO CREATE A SURVEY AT SOME POINT.
AGAIN, I HOPE THE SURVEY IS ANONYMOUS AND OBJECTIVE, NOT
USED AS A PR THING.
I'M A PR PERSON.
ANY COMPANY I WORK WITH, NUMBER ONE THING YOU SHOULD DO IS
IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM, PUT IT ON THE SURFACE FOR EVERYBODY
AND THEN TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'LL DO TO FIX IT.

IF WE TRY TO BURY IT AND SAY EVERYTHING IS FINE, SUCH A BIG
ORGANIZATION, IF WE HAVE 95% OF THE PEOPLE HAPPY, 5% IS A
LOT OF PEOPLE UNHAPPY.
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WORDS LIKE RETALIATION, THAT'S REALLY
CONCERNING.
I THINK THE CHIEF OF STAFF IN EARNEST IS TRYING TO ADDRESS
IT.
IF EMPLOYEES, FORMER OR CURRENT, HAVE IDEAS ON WHAT WE CAN
DO WITH OUR LIMITED POWERS, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM.
I'LL CONTINUE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE THIS.
CONTINUE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
AND THEN WHEN THE CHARTER REVISION TIME COMES, WE PROBABLY
NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN IT THAT GIVES CITY COUNCIL A WAY TO
LET OFF THE STEAM.
IF YOU LISTEN TO VOICE MAILS AND E-MAILS, IT'S REALLY
DISTURBING THE INFORMATION WE'VE GOTTEN.
ALSO, I WENT ROUND AND ROUND WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON WHAT
OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE IF WE GET A CALL.
THE ORIGINAL ADVICE I GOT WAS THAT ALL WE CAN DO IS REFER
THEM TO HR OR TELL THEM TO GET LEGAL ADVICE.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GET INVOLVED IN EITHER OF THOSE BUT WE
CAN GIVE THEM THAT ADVICE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M CONTINUING TO DO.
THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE IN THE LAST MEMO THAT IMPLIED THAT
WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO AUTOMATICALLY TURN OVER ALL THESE.

IF SOMEBODY CALLS ME AND CLAIMS RETALIATION BY THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE, I'M NOT GOING TO TURN IT IN.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANDREA CAN MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT, BUT YOU
CAN SUE ME IF YOU WANT, BUT IF SOMEONE SAYS THAT THEY ARE
AFRAID OF RETALIATION, I'M NOT GOING TO TURN IT OVER,
BECAUSE I THINK EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE PROTECTED.
I WILL TAKE THE LEGAL ADVICE, WHICH IS TO TELL THEM TO TALK
TO HR OR A LAWYER BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN THEIR
CASE.
I'M NOT GOING TO INTENTIONALLY CAUSE SOMEBODY TO PUT
THEMSELVES IN A POSITION THAT MAY CAUSE THEM TO GET HARMED.
BUT THANK YOU TO CHIEF OF STAFF FOR WORKING ON SOLUTIONS.
HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO IMPROVE THINGS GOING FORWARD.
11:21:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
DID YOU WANT TO CLARIFY YOUR COMMENTS?
11:21:43AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
JUST TO CLARIFY, WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS,
JUST TO LEVEL SET.
11:21:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME.
11:21:48AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
AS CHIEF OF STAFF MENTIONED, ALMOST 3800 OF THE 4700,
WHATEVER, CITY EMPLOYEES ARE MEMBERS OF A UNION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, I'VE HEARD
COMMENTS THAT THE ONLY PLACE PEOPLE CAN GO TO IS HR AND
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
EVERYONE INVOLVED IN A UNION HAS THE RIGHT TO SEEK A CIVIL

SERVICE HEARING.
THEY CAN IN CERTAIN CASES GO TO ARBITRATION, ALL CLASSIFIED
EMPLOYEES CAN SEEK A CIVIL SERVICE BOARD HEARING.
JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
WHERE REPORTING TO HR IS, IN FACT, REQUIRED, AND THAT'S WHAT
I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON REFERRED TO JUST A MOMENT AGO,
IS IN OUR PERSONNEL MANUAL.
THAT'S IN CASES OF DISCRIMINATION, HARASSMENT, AND
RETALIATION.
OUR PERSONNEL MANUAL REQUIRES THAT ANYONE, ANY CITY EMPLOYEE
WHO HEARS, RECEIVES A COMPLAINT OF THAT, OF DISCRIMINATION,
HARASSMENT OR RETALIATION IS OBLIGATED TO REPORT IT TO HR
FOR INVESTIGATION.
HR IS OBLIGATED TO INVESTIGATE.
THAT WAS IN OUR PERSONNEL MANUAL.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
RECENTLY IN OUR SETTLEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN
A CASE THAT INVOLVED THE PARENTAL LEAVE POLICY THAT WAS
MISAPPLIED, ALLEGEDLY MISAPPLIED IN 2017, 2018, PART OF OUR
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THEM BEEFED UP THAT PORTION OF THE
PERSONNEL MANUAL AND ALSO IMPOSED OBLIGATIONS ON THE CITY TO
REPORT ALL CLAIMS OF HARASSMENT, RETALIATION, DISCRIMINATION
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
SO, YES, IT'S MY OPINION THAT EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO
RECEIVES A COMPLAINT OF HARASSMENT, RETALIATION OR

DISCRIMINATION IS OBLIGATED TO REPORT THAT TO HR.
SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU IS IF PEOPLE ARE CALLING YOU
OR E-MAILING YOU AND SAYING YOU NEED TO TELL THEM UP FRONT,
IF YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE BEING DISCRIMINATED
AGAINST, HARASSED OR RETALIATED AGAINST, I WILL HAVE TO
REPORT THAT TO HR.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS YOU DO SO, BUT I DO BELIEVE YOU'RE
OBLIGATED.
I CAN'T SAY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU DON'T DO IT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUE A COUNCIL MEMBER, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
BUT IT IS AN OBLIGATION WE HAVE.
IT IS AN OBLIGATION WE HAVE NOW WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE UNDER THAT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
11:24:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. ZELMAN THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION.
INTERNAL CITY OF TAMPA POLICY BASED ON STATE OR FEDERAL
STATUTE?
11:24:48AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF IT IS BASED UPON
REQUIREMENTS IN ANTIDISCRIMINATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF REBECCA CAN CLARIFY THAT.
BUT ALSO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OF THE
SPECIFIC PERSONNEL MANUAL POLICY THAT I'M TALKING TO WAS
WRITTEN BY US IN COORDINATION WITH DOJ.
THEY HAD TO APPROVE IT BEFORE WE COULD ADOPT IT.
DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY ANYTHING, REBECCA?
11:25:17AM >> IT'S NOT THAT THE LANGUAGE WHERE WE ENCOURAGE OUR

EMPLOYEES TO REPORT A COMPLAINT.
THAT'S NOT BASED ON STATE LAW.
HOWEVER, IF AN ENTITY IS GETTING COMPLAINTS AND THEY ARE NOT
INVESTIGATING THAT, THAT PRESENTS A PROBLEM AND THAT
PRESENTS LIABILITY.
11:25:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
11:25:37AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:25:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:25:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT -- I'M NOT GOING TO
BRING UP CASES, CITY ATTORNEY AND I AND CHIEF OF STAFF AND I
HAVE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CASES WHERE I HAVE
OBSERVED THAT THE INVESTIGATION OF HR SEEMS TO BE ARBITRARY
AND IN SOME CASES PUNITIVE.
THE ISSUE IS THE THREAT OF RETALIATION.
THE EMPLOYEES SAY THAT THEY ARE AFRAID THAT THE HR AND THEN
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS GOING TO RETALIATE AGAINST THEM.
IF THEY COME TO US AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SAY WE NEED
HELP, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO QUIT THE CITY, BUT WE NEED
HELP, AND WE'RE AFRAID OF THE ADMINISTRATION RETALIATING
AGAINST US, AND THEN WE TURN IT OVER TO HR, THEY FEEL LIKE
WE'VE BREACHED THEIR CONFIDENCE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO
CAUSE THEM TO BE RETALIATED AGAINST.
WHO IS GOING TO INVESTIGATE THAT?
YOU MENTIONED THE UNIONS, I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH ALL

THREE UNIONS.
ONLY ONE PUT THEIR OPINION IN WRITING AND THEY SAID ALSO
THEY ARE AFRAID OF RETALIATION ARBITRARY PROCESS.
I THINK THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SAID IS
WE NEED TO PROTECT AND PROVIDE DEFENSE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR
EMPLOYEES.
BY THE WAY, THE PATERNITY CASE YOU MENTIONED, WHICH WE HAD
TO PAY A 400,000 --
11:27:01AM >> 300.
11:27:02AM >>BILL CARLSON:
$300,000 SETTLEMENT, THAT WAS AGAINST THE
LAST MAYOR WHO THE CITY NAMED -- THE MAYOR NAMED A BUILDING
AFTER YESTERDAY DESPITE OUR RULE THAT A PERSON SHOULD NOT
GET A BUILDING NAMED AFTER THEM, THAT THEY HAVE A CIVIL
RIGHTS VIOLATION.
I KNOW YOU INTERPRET THAT DIFFERENTLY.
BUT I THINK THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T LIKE IT THAT WE'RE SOMEHOW
REWARDING CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.
THREE CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATIONS IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION
BY THE UNITED STATES JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, THE MOST RECENT ONE
STOPPED BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT VALID.
IT SENDS A SIGNAL TO THE COMMUNITY AND EMPLOYEES AND FORMER
EMPLOYEES IS THAT WE DON'T TREAT CIVIL RIGHTS SERIOUSLY, AND
WE PUT BIG SIGNS UP TO REWARD PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED CIVIL
RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND TRY
TO CLARIFY THIS OR MAYBE WE AS CITY COUNCIL AND THE CHARTER
NEED TO MODIFY SOMETHING OR MAYBE PASS AN ORDINANCE, BUT IF
AN EMPLOYEE COMES IN GOOD FAITH AND SAYS THEY ARE AFRAID OF
BEING RETALIATED AGAINST BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, I THINK IT
WOULD BE NOT A GOOD IDEA TO PUT THEM IN HARM'S WAY BY
TURNING THEM IN.
11:28:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:28:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUPLE OF THINGS, I THINK THIS CAN BE VERY
EASILY SOLVED.
WE HAVE THREE UNIONS THAT ARE NOT AFRAID TO MAKE THEIR
VOICES HEARD.
TO HAVE AN INQUIRY ON BEHALF OF ANY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
MEMBER OR MADE BY ANY TAMPA COUNCIL MEMBER ON WHAT PROCESSES
CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE THIS, TO HEAR FROM THE UNIONS, TO
HEAR FROM ATU, HEAR FROM 754 AND FROM PBA ON THAT, I THINK
THAT IS A QUICK AND EFFICIENT WAY, BECAUSE IT IS THEIR DUTY
TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THEIR WORKERS, AND THEY ARE PURSUE
THAT DUTY WITH VIGOR.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DENIES THAT.
I SAID THIS LAST TIME, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL
AGAIN AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHEN YOU GET INTO AN HR CASE.
BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, SOMETHING THAT YOU SAY COULD BE
MENTIONED IN A LAWSUIT COMPLAINT, IN A PLEADING THAT'S FILED

IN THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT COURT.
I'VE BEEN THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE SOMETIMES YOU
THINK WITH YOUR HEART AND NOT WITH YOUR HEAD AS AN ELECTED
OFFICIAL, AND YOU DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT THERE ARE
PROCESSES BY WHICH THINGS GO AND ALL THAT.
WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
BUT IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE UNIONS TO LET US KNOW IF ANYTHING
NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED OR PURSUED.
AGAIN, I WOULD BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN THAT BECAUSE THAT IS
IMPORTANT.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE
HEARD AND EVERYTHING.
THERE IS A LINE BETWEEN TAKING A LOOK AT POLICY FOR ALL
EMPLOYEES, GETTING INVOLVED IN ONE PARTICULAR SITUATION,
IT'S A CAREFUL LINE THAT WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS I THINK
SHOULD OBSERVE.
11:29:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHIEF BENNETT.
11:29:49AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
I WANT TO ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID AND
ALL THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES.
I HAVE YET TO HAVE THE UNION NOT CALL ME 24 HOURS A DAY ON
ANYTHING THAT THEY FELT WAS ESCALATING AND THEN I'LL WORK IT
BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT AND FIGURE OUT WHERE EVERYTHING LIES
IN THE MIDDLE.
I HAVE YET TO -- I GET BRIEFED ON ALL MAJOR INVESTIGATIONS

AS THEY START OR STOP OR AT LEAST GET TRIAGED AND ALL OF
THEM HAVE BEEN AGAIN, DONE WHAT I'VE SEEN.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT HAS BROKEN OUT OF THAT MODEL.
AGAIN, I THINK ALL THE CHECKS AND BALANCES, AS GOOD AS THEY
CAN BE, ARE IN PLACE.
I'M GOING TO END WITH THE WAY I STARTED.
WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
ALWAYS OPEN TO ARTICLES IN THE CONTRACTS THAT MAKE SENSE AND
SUSTAINABLE AND ACTIONABLE FOR THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE CAN'T
RUN A GREAT CITY LIKE WE ALL DO TOGETHER WITHOUT GREAT
EMPLOYEES.
THEY NEED TO FEEL SAFE AND HEALTHY AND THEIR WELFARE IS VERY
IMPORTANT TO US.
I THINK WE'VE TAKEN THAT SERIOUSLY AS A COUNCIL, AS AN
ADMINISTRATION, AS A COMMUNITY, THROUGH SOME VERY TRYING
TIMES OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS.
I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE.
THANK YOU.
11:30:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NO FURTHER COMMENTS, WE'LL CLOSE THAT ITEM.
VERY GOOD.
COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE.
11:31:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WES, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD.
I WANTED TO INTRODUCE TO COUNCIL, NOBODY'S FAULT BY MINE, IF
YOU HAVEN'T MET WES, GREAT YOUNG MAN.

GOES TO FSU.
HERE FROM TAMPA.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY
BECOMING AN ATTORNEY.
11:31:29AM >> YES.
11:31:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HE WILL BE HERE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE
SUMMER.
WES AND I WENT OUT TO STARBUCKS WHERE WE HAD A REALLY
AWESOME, ALMOST TWO HOURS, HOUR AND A HALF CHAT ON A LOT OF
THINGS INCLUDING MUSIC.
HE PLAYS IN A BAND.
THEY PLAY A LOT OF LED ZEPPELIN SONGS.
HE'S A REALLY COOL YOUNG MAN.
HE WILL BE WITH US -- HE WILL BE WITH US IN GOOD TIMES AND
BAD TIMES BEFORE HE HAS TO RAMBLE ON OUT OF HERE.
I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
WES IS JUST A FINE YOUNG MAN.
I'LL PUT YOU ON THE SPOT IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, BUDDY.
11:32:16AM >> IT'S GOOD TO MEET ALL OF YOU THAT I HAVEN'T ALREADY.
GOOD TO SEE THOSE THAT I HAVE.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE LISTENING IN ON MEETINGS.
I FEEL LIKE I'M LEARNING A LOT.
I'M REALLY GLAD TO BE WORKING HERE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
11:32:36AM >> WHAT INSTRUMENT?

11:32:37AM >> I PLAY GUITAR AND I SING.
ELECTRIC GUITAR AND I SING.
11:32:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE HIM SINGING LESSONS.
11:32:46AM >> WHEN IS THE NEXT -- THE KARAOKE.
11:32:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE'RE LOOKING AT AUGUST 1st.
11:32:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MARK YOUR CALENDARS, FOLKS.
11:32:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HOPE YOU ARE THERE.
11:32:59AM >> I THINK I WILL BE THERE.
11:33:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:33:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BEFORE WE DEPART FOR LUNCH -- GUESS WHERE
SHE IS GOING TO COLLEGE.
ONE OF THE GREATEST UNIVERSITIES IN THE WORLD.
FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY.
11:33:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANOTHER FSU PERSON.
VERY GOOD.
WELCOME, WELCOME.
DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
11:33:26AM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
I PLAN ON MAJORING IN POLITICAL SCIENCE.
SO THIS IS AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY.
I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
SO THANK YOU.
11:33:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY NICE.
WELL, WELCOME.
WELCOME, WELCOME.

IT IS 11:34.
WE ARE WAY TOO AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
HOW ABOUT WE BREAK FOR LUNCH UNTIL 1:00 AND COME BACK WITH
ITEM 94, THE UNITE ASHLEY PROJECT.
WE'LL HAVE A BREAK FOR LUNCH.
LET'S PLEASE HAVE OUR BUTTS AT 1:00.
WE HAVE ANOTHER INTERN.
COME ON.
SHE WILL MAKE YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF?
11:34:20AM >> YES.
GOOD MORNING, DARIO PEACOCK.
WORK IN DISTRICT 5 WITH MS. DARLENE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND SEE WHAT IT IS
LIKE TO WORK AT CITY COUNCIL.
11:34:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WELCOME.
I SEE HOW YOU ARE, DARLENE.
WE'LL BREAK AND COME BACK AT REAL 1:00.
BUTTS IN THE CHAIR, READY TO GO WITH UNITE ASHLEY.
[LUNCH RECESS]

01:01:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
01:01:17PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:01:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS PROMISED, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE --
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:01:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ANSWER FOR 47 AND 48.
01:01:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT IS BEING WORKED ON.
01:01:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY, IT IS BEING WORKED ON.
I APOLOGIZE.
01:01:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE ARE AWAITING THE RESOLUTION.
01:01:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOLLER TO ME.
01:01:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WILL MOVE DIRECTLY TO MOBILITY ON UNITE
ASHLEY.
HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
POINT OF PRIVILEGE.
CAN YOU INTRODUCE HIM FOR ME?
WE INTRODUCED ALL THE INTERNS EXCEPT FOR THE ONE THAT WORKS
IN MY OFFICE.
01:02:02PM >> TIM HEBELEIN.
[ INAUDIBLE ]
01:02:18PM >> -- THE INNER WORKINGS OF CITY POLITICS AND, YOU KNOW, IT
IS THE FIRST STEP.
01:02:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU MISSED HOW INCREDIBLE IT IS TO WORK
WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:02:32PM >> OH --
01:02:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:02:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WILL THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA IS PRESENT IN THE HOUSE.
MR. SHELBY.
01:02:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ASK COUNCIL'S
INDULGENCE PLEASE TO RECALL ITEM NUMBER 92.
01:02:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, I HAVE GOT THAT --
01:02:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU?
01:02:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE THAT AS SOON AS WE FINISH WITH
UNITE ASHLEY.
01:02:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I PROMISED THEY WILL BE THE FIRST THING
AFTER LUNCH.
01:03:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO WE WILL INDULGE ONE MORE THING.
COUNCIL -- DO WE HAVE TO REOPEN OR DO I JUST ANNOUNCE IT?
01:03:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MADAM CHAIR, HOW DO YOU WISH TO HANDLE IT?
01:03:12PM >>CLERK:
I WILL JUST ANNOUNCE IT.
01:03:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEGLECTED TO RECEIVE FOR 92 WHEN THE
HEARING.
01:03:20PM >>CLERK:
FILE NUMBER Z-03-77.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION JULY 17, 2025 AT 10:00 A.M. IN
OLD CITY HALL CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602.
01:03:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
01:03:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:03:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR 96 AND 97.
MAY WE HEAR 97 BEFORE 96 BECAUSE 97 IS A SMALL PART OF THE
BIG THING, AND I HATE TO GET THE TWO CONFLATED.
01:03:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
01:03:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:03:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO 97 FIRST.
BRANDON, I KNOW I TEASED YOU WITH IT TWO TIMES, THREE TIMES IS
THE CHARM.
LET'S MOVE ON YOUR ITEM, PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER 94.
01:04:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
GOOD AFTERNOON, DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
YOU SEE DIRECTOR CAMPBELL WITH US.
THIS WANTS REVENUE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION GRANT.
AND THAT EXISTING BUDGETS BE REALIGNED ON TWO PROJECTS FOR
UNITE ASHLEY DRIVE.
I AM PRETTY SURE, BUT I WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE TODAY'S ACTION
AND TODAY'S REQUEST IS ONLY PORTION FUNDING REQUIRED FOR
THIS PROJECT.
FOR THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT AT THIS TIME WE
ANTICIPATE ABOUT $22 MILLION TOTAL.
WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ACTION ON ALL $22 MILLION.
AND WE ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FUNDING
SCENARIOS BASED ON QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED.
AND WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, DIRECTOR?
01:04:58PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
NO, I WILL JUST BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
01:05:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD OF USING CRA
FUNDING.
WHERE DO WE STAND IN THAT?
I TRIED TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF UNDERSTANDING OVER LUNCH, BUT
I AM STILL A LITTLE LOST.
01:05:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, MA'AM.
AND IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP PLEASE.
I AM A VISUAL GUY.
01:05:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE WOLF IS SLOWLY --
01:05:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT'S RIGHT.
IT IS A DIFFERENT NAME NOW.
01:05:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE SEE IT.
01:05:34PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I SAID ELMO AND THEY ARE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW
WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS IS THE CURRENT SCENARIO IN THE ACTION WE HAVE BEFORE
YOU TODAY.
YOU SEE THE FEDERAL GRANT A LITTLE OVER $5 MILLION,
REQUESTED REALIGNMENT OF EXISTING PROJECTS.
AND I WILL POINT OUT, AS YOU SAID BEFORE, THIS IS CIT BOND
MONEY FROM ABOUT A DECADE AGO THAT IS GETTING STALE AND WILL
SUNSET IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AND CASS STREET PROJECTS, OTHER
FUNDING -- PLANS TO USE OTHER FUNDING FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
THE CRA, COUNCIL AS THE CRA BOARD RECENTLY APPROVED $8
MILLION SUPPLEMENT.
WE DO NOT HAVE A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION HERE FOR YOU TODAY
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE CRA
IS IN ALIGNMENT.
HERE RIGHT NOW IN PLAY FROM A FUTURE PERSPECTIVE IS JUST
UNDER $4 MILLION OF FUNDING BUT WE WILL HAVE TO FIND SOME
PLACE.
NOW TO PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR THIS, YOU SEE, AGAIN, THE $22
MILLION TOTAL.
BUT THE TIMING OF THIS PROJECT IS SUCH THAT IT IS GOING TO
TAKE YEARS -- WILL TAKE YEARS BEFORE WE NEED ALL OF THIS
FUNDING.
SO WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.
DOES THIS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE
HAVE GOT NOW?
01:07:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHERE WE -- EXCUSE ME -- THAT IS WHAT
WE KNEW ABOUT BEFORE.
I WAS TALKING OF ABILITY TO FIND THAT EXTRA $3.95, AND
POSSIBLY EVEN MORE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CRA BUDGET, BECAUSE
WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AND OURSELVES HAVE LOOKED AT IT THE
TO SEE IS IT THE POSSIBILITY TO USE FUTURE FUNDS FROM THE
DOWNTOWN CRA TO PAY FOR THE EXTRA $17 MILLION.
01:07:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I HAVE A SCENARIO FOR THAT ALSO.
LET US SEE WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS ONE, YOU KNOW, OF MANY POTENTIAL DISCUSSIONS.
AND YOU SEE THE CHANGES IN YELLOW IN THE HIGHLIGHTED
INFORMATION THERE AT THE TOP.
INCREASING CRA PORTION BY $5 MILLION TO A TOTAL OF $13
MILLION, WHICH WILL REDUCE THE NECESSITY FOR THAT FUTURE
FUNDING FROM SOME PLACE.
AND ALSO WOULD REDUCE THE NECESSITY FOR ALL OF THAT C.I.T.
FUNDING.
IF I CAN FRAME IT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
AGAIN, FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK
FOR CRA ADMINISTRATION, BUT THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT BALANCE
RIGHT NOW.
OF COURSE, YOU AS THE CRA BOARD KNOW THAT AS YOU PLAN FOR
THE FUTURE, THAT BALANCE IS OBLIGATED IS THE WORD THEY USE.
NOT BUDGETED SO TO SPEAK, BUT OBLIGATED FOR
PROJECT A, B, AND C.
WHAT WE THINK BEGINNING IN 2027, AND, AGAIN, WE ARE HAPPY TO
DISCUSS WITH CRA ADMINISTRATION, BUT WHICH THINK IT IS
BEGINNING IN 2027, THEY WILL HAVE AMPLE CAPACITY FOR
ADDITIONAL FUNDING WHICH TIES RIGHT IN WITH THE ANTICIPATED
TIME FRAME OF WHEN THAT FUNDING WILL BE NEEDED.
01:08:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN.
I KNOW THAT MR. CAMPBELL AND I SPOKE YESTERDAY OF THE FACT
WE NEED TO PUT SOME MONEY FORWARD TO GET STARTED, BUT -- SO
I THINK MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IF -- IF WE NEED TO MOVE JUST
THE BROREIN STREET PORTION OF THE 2016 CIT BONDS.
IF WE APPROVED THAT TODAY THAT THERE IS MONEY IN THE BUCKET
TO DO -- TO START THE PROCESS.
COULD WE THEN -- IF WE CAN IRON OUT THROUGH THE CRA --
THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN CRA -- IRON OUT THE REST OF IT, AS WE
LOOK FORWARD, ESPECIALLY -- ESPECIALLY IN THAT BUDGET CYCLE
THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SOON.
OKAY, YES.
SO THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS -- AGAIN, I DON'T
KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES AGREE OR DISAGREE, BUT ULTIMATELY, I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CRA FINANCE -- OR PAY FOR THIS INSTEAD
OF LOOKING AT ANY DEBT FERNING, MOBILITY FEES, CIT VERSION
TWO.
OTHER THINGS THAT THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET AS MUCH FROM THE CRA AS POSSIBLE AND TO
TAKE THE REST OF THOSE 2016 CIT BONDS TO PAY DOWN THE DEBT
ON THE WEST RIVERWALK SO WE TAKE LESS MONEY FOR THAT.
THAT -- THAT IS THE SCENARIO I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY WITH.
01:10:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
UNDERSTOOD.
01:10:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOTH THINGS THE PUBLIC HAS SAID WE DON'T WANT
TO SPEND CITY DOLLARS ON.
TECHNICALLY WE COULD SPEND THE CIT BONDS IN MANY DIFFERENT
WAYS BUT SINCE IT IS ALLOCATED WE MIGHT AS WELL PAY OFF DEBT
BEFORE WE TAKE IT ON.
01:10:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
UNDERSTOOD.
COUNCIL -- DEPENDING ON THE DECISION OF COUNCIL AND YOU SIT
AS THE CRA BOARD, YOU ARE WELL PLACED TO DO EXACTLY THAT IN
TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU AND THE TIMING OF WHEN THE
FUNDING WILL BE NEEDED.
01:10:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, TODAY SAY WE MOVED -- MR. CAMPBELL YOU
SAID YOU NEEDED $2 MILLION?
01:11:00PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES.
01:11:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVED THE $2 MILLION FROM THE BROREIN STREET
INTO THE BOND WILL THAT BE OKAY.
01:11:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE TRANSPORTATION GRANT.
01:11:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
APPROPRIATING IN THE GRANT.
01:11:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVING THE CA SHALL TO GET US STARTED.
01:11:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY MOVE THE $5,354,695
IN THE TRANSPORTATION GRANTS PROGRAM AND $2 MILLION FROM
THE CIT.
01:11:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TRANSFER AND ALLOCATION OF $5,354,695 WITHIN
THE TRANSPORTATION GRANTS CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND AND $2
MILLION WITHIN THE CIT SERIES 2016 BONDS CAPITAL PROJECTS
FUNDS FOR BROREIN STREET CATEGORY FOR USE BY THE UNITE
ASHLEY DRIVE PROJECT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:11:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
01:11:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
01:12:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
BOTH OF YOU TO -- AND CRA STAFF AND STILL WORKING AROUND IT
WITH MISS COPESKY, AND WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
AND I ASSUME THAT THE 2026 BUDGET WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO
LOOK AND SEE HOW WE CAN PUT THIS FORWARD.
01:12:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, WE CAN REFINE IT AND SET UP THE
FUNDING TIMING AND AMOUNTS PROSPECTIVELY.
01:12:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I WILL COMMIT TO CONTINUING TO WORK YOU
WITH ON THIS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:12:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:12:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION?
01:12:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:12:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
STILL CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY OF THE
CONFIGURATION OF THIS PROJECT.
JUST NOW TALKING OF HOW THE MONEY WILL BE ALLOCATED.
IS THERE ANY -- IS THE PROJECT ALREADY SET AS IS?
OR ANY ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC FEEDBACK ON IT.
01:13:00PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
BRANDON CAMPBELL.
THE GRANT AGREEMENT THAT OBLIGATES US TO DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT THE WORK ORDER WITH A NOTICE TO PROCEED ON INCLUDES
CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO THE N EPA EVALUATION SO
CERTAINLY ROOM FOR MODIFICATIONS.
I BROUGHT RENDERING BEFORE YOU BEFORE.
THOSE WILL BE DEFINITELY MODIFIED FROM THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE
FIRST LEVEL.
01:13:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS DURING THAT TIME?
01:13:28PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES, THERE WILL BE.
01:13:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME YET?
01:13:37PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
NO.
01:13:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY.
01:13:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SIX CITIES IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE
RECONNECTION COMMUNITY GRANT?
01:13:49PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY.
01:13:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I RECEIVED A TEXT OR E-MAIL OR WHATEVER
YOU CALL IT ON OTHER THINGS THAT SAYS THAT.
AND THE -- CALLED RECONNECTING THE COMMUNITY GRANT FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
01:14:06PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES, A COMPETITIVE GRANT.
01:14:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:14:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS TOLD THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
MISS CLERK, WHAT DO I NEED TO DO?
01:14:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO PROCEED AS THE
MOTION AS RENDERED, AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP THE FINANCIAL
RESOLUTION TO RECORD WITH THE VOTE TODAY.
01:14:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DOES THAT COME BACK TO COUNCIL?
01:14:34PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT CAN.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY BUT DEFER LEGAL.
01:14:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DOES THE RESOLUTION NEED TO BE SIGNED BY
THE CHAIR?
01:14:42PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I THINK THIS RESOLUTION -- I CONFIRM --
01:14:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK'S MOTION IS NOT PROPER?
01:14:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MIKE PERRY, AGAIN, MR. MIKE PERRY, THE
KNOWER OF ALL THINGS, POINTS OUT THAT THE RESOLUTION DOES
HAVE TO BE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR.
IN MY CHECKERED PAST IN OTHER LOCALITIES, WE WOULD TAKE THE
MOTION, APPROVAL OF THE MOTION AS APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL
AND HAVE THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER SIGN IT.
I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFICULTY WITH BRINGING IT BACK, AS LONG AS
WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO WHAT YOU WANT TO
ACCOMPLISH.
01:15:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM FINE WITH BRINGING IT BACK THEN.
01:15:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANKS, MA'AM.
01:15:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, THIS
WOULD BE A CONTINUANCE.
WE PASSED A MOTION, WHY WOULD NOT BE IN ORDER?
01:15:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL TRADITIONALLY DOES
NOT DO RESOLUTIONS ON THE FLY WHEN SOMETHING HAS BEEN FILED
IN ON-BASE.
IT IS EITHER UP, DOWN --
01:15:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU LOST ME AT TRADITIONALLY.
01:15:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BECAUSE IT IS IMPROPER.
01:15:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY IS IT IMPROPER?
01:15:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE WAY THE CITY COUNCIL PROCESSES
RESOLUTIONS.
01:16:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY IS IT IMPROPER?
01:16:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU GO IN AND SIGN RESOLUTIONS ALREADY
FILED WITH THE CLERK TO SIGN WITH A SIGNATURE.
SOMEBODY FROM THE STAFF COMES TO YOU AND SAYS, SIGN THIS.
OR --
01:16:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN'T THEY MODIFY THAT BEFORE MY
SIGNATURE?
01:16:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PARDON?
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AFTER THE FACT, BUT THE
FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IT IS NOT THE WAY IT HAS BEEN DONE.
I HATE SAYING THAT, BUT NORMALLY A VERY GOOD REASON WHEN YOU
ARE PLAYING WITH A LOT OF MONEY.
01:16:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, IN THE INTERIM, MIKE
SAYS THAT HIS SHOP CAN TURN THAT REVISED FINANCIAL
RESOLUTION AROUND BY THE END OF YOUR MEETING.
01:16:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, SO --
01:16:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS THE IDEA.
01:16:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET US KNOW WHEN IT IS READY.
01:16:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW WE NEWS DO SOME BUSINESS.
SO A MOTION TO --
01:16:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
RETURN WITH THAT.
01:16:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION TO RETURN WITH THE --
01:16:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
01:16:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
-- WITH THE MOTION THAT I STATED EARLIER.
01:17:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
MR. CARLSON.
01:17:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DOES SHE NEED TO CALL -- NO?
YOU DON'T NEED TO CALL IT?
ONE THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IF YOU WERE BRINGING IT BACK
ANOTHER DAY, I WISH WE WOULD SAY AS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND
WHATEVER.
BUT IF IT IS COMING BACK TODAY, FINE.
01:17:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF WE DID SO, WE WOULD EXACTLY THAT.
01:17:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW.
WE SHOULD PUT IN ON A WORKSHOP ONE TIME WHAT MARTY JUST SAID
BY ACCIDENT AND BY YOUR QUESTION IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL.
BECAUSE AS I RECALL IN THE CHARTER, WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE
CONTRACTS, SO IF THERE IS A CONTRACT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
IS NEGOTIATED AND THEY COME BACK TO US, AND WE -- ALL WE CAN
DO IS VOTE THAT UP AND DOWN BUT WE ARE ALLOWED TO MOVE
BUDGET NUMBERS AROUND SO THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS NOT A
CONTRACT.
WE SHOULD BY CHARTER BE ABLE TO EDIT CONTRACTS AND I WOULD
ARGUE RESOLUTION BUS A CONVERSATION --
01:18:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK MR. SHELBY WANTS TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATION OF THIS OFF-LINE TO GET A LITTLE MORE CLARITY
HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
BUT I AGREE YOU WITH OF THE CONTRACT DISCUSSION AS WELL.
POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
OKAY, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS BEFORE THE CLOSE OF
BUSINESS TODAY.
THANK YOU.
WE ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE EARLY, SO GET TO WORK.
01:18:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MIKE, GET THIS THING DONE.
01:18:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
NEXT ITEM -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD THIS, CHIEF TRIPP,
BUT WE WILL DO ITEM 97 FIRST.
ITEM 97 FIRST.
THOSE OF HOW HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
DID WE VOTE ON NICK SPEAKING.
01:18:51PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, BARBARA TRIPP OF
FIRE RESCUE.
ITEM NUMBER 97 IS THE UPDATE ON STATION 24.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL PARTNERS,
AND WE CAN GIVE YOU A REPORT OF OPERATION WHAT IS GOING ON
NOTICE AREA.
WE ARE STILL RESPONDING TO CALLS.
RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH STATION 13.
AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE, I HAVE MY PROJECT MANAGER WHO IS
ONLINE AS WELL TO GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES, AS WELL AS IF THERE
ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE CONTRACTORS.
01:19:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOLKS ONLINE, DO YOU WANT TIME TO PRESENT
OR ARE YOU HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS?
01:19:31PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A QUICK PRESENTATION.
01:19:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
01:19:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GET THE VOLUME UP.
SEEMS LIKE THE MICROPHONE IS NOT WORKING AT THE LECTERN.
I AM HAVING TROUBLE HEARING PEOPLE TODAY.
I AM HAVING A REAL HARD TIME HEARING.
01:19:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PULL UP THE ONLINE SPEAKER.
OKAY.
CAN WE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON?
01:20:01PM >> SHARING MY CAMERA RIGHT NOW.
HERE I AM.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
01:20:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE SEE YOU.
STATE YOUR NAME FIRST, PLEASE.
01:20:09PM >> KEITH GUYETTE, UNIT DIRECTOR WITH PROJECT -- THE PROJECT MANAGER.
01:20:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
01:20:18PM >> GREAT, THANK YOU.
IF I CAN JUST SHARE MY SCREEN.
COULD YOU SEE THE SCREEN.
01:21:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE SEE THE SCREEN AND DOING THE DROP MODE.
DO YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN PRESENTATION MODE?
WE CAN SEE IT THAT WAY.
THAT'S FINE.
I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC SEES YOUR SCREEN THOUGH.
01:21:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU CAN PUT IT IN --
01:21:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PRESENTATION MODE.
01:21:46PM >> SHOWING PRESENTATION MODE ON MY SCREEN.
01:21:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE SEE YOUR WORK MODE LIKE YOU STUFF.
ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
NOW IT IS GONE.
YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU HAVE.
01:22:11PM >> SURE.
01:22:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S FINE.
01:22:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT
THOUGH.
TELEVISION CREW.
01:22:30PM >> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT.
A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION AND A QUICK UPDATE WHERE WE ARE
WITH FIRE STATION 24 AT THIS POINT.
JUST REALLY QUICKLY, THE CORE TEAM, WE HAVE SHOWED HERE ON
THE SCREEN BEYOND THE CITY AND THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
WE ARE PART PROJECT LEADERS, THE PROJECT MANAGERS AND THE
DESIGN-BUILD COMPRISED OF OUR DESIGN GROUP AND CONTRACTING.
AND REALLY QUICK REGARDING THE DESIGN TEAM AND OURSELVES.
WE CAME ON BOARD IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
SO THE DESIGN TEAM HAD A NOTICE TO PROCEED IN MARCH.
AND WE CAME IN SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
QUICK ON THE PROJECT LOCATION.
A QUICK OVERVIEW WHERE THE TWO STATIONS ARE THAT WE ARE
CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT.
FIRE STATION 24 EAST BAY DRIVE AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MEMBERS
THAT ARE TAKING OVER THE BRUNT OF THE WORK, FIRE STATION 14
WHICH IS TWO AND A HALF MILES, WHERE WE ARE AT CURRENTLY
RIGHT NOW WITH THE DESIGN.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE DESIGN TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING IN THE
PREDESIGN PHASE, DUE DILIGENCE OUT ON THE SITE.
THE DESIGN TEAM IS WORKING WITH AN OLDER SITE SURVEY.
WE DID THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION BACK WHEN WE WERE HIRED AS
THE DESIGN TEAM AND PART OF THE DESIGN BUILD ENTITY.
AS PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE, THEY WENT OUT THERE AND TOOK A
LOOK AT THE WETLAND AND DELINEATION OF THE WETLANDS AND
FOUND IT SHRUNK THE WETLANDS PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.
WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH NOW IS DEALING WITH THE SITE THAT
WILL HOPEFULLY HANDLE MOST OF THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE RATHER
THAN UNDERGROUND OR DRAINAGE STRUCTURES WHICH ARE
SIGNIFICANTLY LESS EXPENSIVE.
DUE DILIGENCE WAS WELL WORTH THE EFFORT TO, AGAIN, DETERMINE
EXACTLY WHAT WAS ON-SITE.
SO THIS IS OUR FIRST OPTION FOR WHAT THIS SITE MIGHT LOOK
LIKE.
SO ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THE LARGER PARCEL IS WHERE THE --
THE BUILDING IS ANTICIPATED TO GO ALONG WITH THE CIRCULATION
AND THE PARKING.
THE WHITE BAR THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE TWO GREEN
SPACES HAPPEN TO BE WHAT CUTS THROUGH THE PARCEL.
AND ON THE RIGHT-HAND SPIED OF THE GREEN SPACE WILL BE USED
FOR ADDITIONAL STORMWATER RETENTION.
AND THAT -- WHAT WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT FOR BOTH OPTIONS.
THIS IS THE FIRST OPTION WHEN YOU COME IN ON THE SECOND
ENTRANCE OFF OF EAST WHITE WAY CIRCLE AND AROUND THE
BUILDING AND ACCESS NOT ONLY SECURED PARKING BUT THE
UPPER ATTIC SPACE.
NEXT SLIDE YOU SEE HERE HAPPENS TO BE THE FLOOR PLAN THAT
GOES WITH OPTION NUMBER ONE.
SO THIS FLOOR PLAN IS BASED ON THE SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT
THAT WAS DONE EARLY, EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS AS PART OF THE
PROGRAMMING EFFORT.
SO THE DESIGN TEAM GAVE US A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, AND WE WENT
THROUGH THOSE WITH THE FIRE -- FIRE STATION.
AND THE CHIEF AND HER TEAM TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR NEEDS
WERE.
AND HOW MANY BUNKS, HOW MANY BAYS, YOU A MANY ANCILLARY AND
WHAT COMES OUT FOR FIRST -- FOR THE FIRST ITERATION OF THAT
SITE PLAN AND THAT FLOOR PLAN.
THIS, AGAIN, IS VERY, VERY EARLY IN THE DESIGN PROCESS.
WE ARE IN PREDESIGN.
THIS LIKELY WILL CHANGE AND LOOK AT THE NEXT ITERATIONS OF
THE DESIGN.
PARKING SPACES WILL BE SMALLER.
SOME SPACES REMOVED.
SOME ADDED, ETC., ETC., AS WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS.
SECOND OPTION WE SHOW OPTION NUMBER TWO IS A LITTLE
DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION OF THE BUILDING.
APPARATUS BAYS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING RATHER
THAT THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND EARNER INTO THE
SITE THROUGH THE FIRST SITE OF THE FIRST ENTRANCE OFF
EAST-WEST LAKE DRIVE.
AND THE SECURED PARKING IS.
AND YOU ACCESS THE APPARATUS SPACE.
SIMILARLY, HERE IS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THAT ACTION.
AGAIN, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION.
AND ALL CONFORMING TO THE SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN THE
PROGRAM THAT WAS GIVEN TO A DESIGN TEAM OF THE DESIGN
PROCESS.
SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE PROJECT SCHEDULE.
WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE OVERALL SCHEDULE THAT WAS PROVIDED
BY THE DESIGN-BUILD TEAM TO OUTLINE ALL THE DIFFERENT FROM
THEIR NOTICE TO PROCEED ALL THE WAY TO CONSTRUCTION.
AND -- AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE 461 DAYS THAT WE SPOKE
ABOUT LAST TIME THAT ARE CURRENT UNDER CONTRACT.
AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON TOP OF THE PAGE, THERE ARE IS --
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN TRUNCATED AND TO FIT IT ON ONE
SHEET, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL TASK ALREADY COMPLETED WHICH IS
NUMBER 17.
THE 72 IT IS A TAX HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
AND WE ARE SHOWING CURRENT STATUS OF THIS RED BAR ON THE
RIGHT HAND SIDE.
THAT WILL CONTINUE TO MARCH DOWN THAT -- THAT GRAPHIC ON THE
RIGHT TO SHOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO PROGRESS THROUGHOUT THE
PROCESS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO DO JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE
AND TO HELP WITH EXPECTATIONS FROM ORDINANCES TO SHOW THAT
THEY HAVE SCHEDULED THAT MULTITASK SCHEDULE OF A BIG OVERALL
MACRO SCHEDULE.
WHAT WE SHOWED HERE OUT OF THE BIG CHUNKS OF TIME THAT ARE
PART OF THE DESIGN PHASE TO GET US TO THE GMP, TO GET US
FINALLY INTO CONSTRUCTION.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE AS PER THE CONTRACTOR OF THE DESIGN
PHASE WHICH IS 15 MONTHS.
CURRENTLY IN PREDESIGN WORKING TO THE NEXT PHASE WHICH IS
CONSIDERED SCHEMATIC DESIGN, 30% COMPLETION OF THE CONTRACT.
AND GOES INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE NEXT PHASE
WILL HAPPEN ON AND TO THE FIRST NOVEMBER AND THEN GO WITH
THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WITH 90.
AND THEN FINAL CONTRACT DOCUMENTS, WHICH WILL BE THE
GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, GMP, FOR THE CONTRACTOR THE LAST
PART OF MAY OF NEXT YEAR.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WANT TO DISCUSS IS, THIS IS
IMPORTANT FOR MOVING FORWARD AS WE WANT TO LOOK AT ALL
ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT TO REDUCE AND COMPRESS THE SCHEDULE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS JUST AS IMPORTANT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LIKE TO FOCUS ON THE MOST AND THE
COST AND QUALITY IS THE SCHEDULE OF THE PROPERTY.
WITH WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SCHEDULE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
BETWEEN LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND THIS COUNCIL MEETING, WE
HAVE THE SCHEDULE IN THE MATTER OF 30-PLUS DAYS WITH THE
REMOVAL OF ONE TASK WHICH IS DUPLICATION OF CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL WHICH WILL NOT BE REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT DINS GM;
REQUIRED TO BE UNDER $20 MILLION.
AND WE OUTLINED SOME OTHER ITEMS WE CAN GAIN SIGNIFICANT
REDUCTION ON TASK WHICH IS THE OWNER REVIEW PROCESS THAT
HAPPENS AT EACH PHASE OF THE DESIGN WHERE WE HAVE A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.
THAT IS WITH A REVIEW AND DO A PEER REVIEW AND DESIGN
REVIEW.
AND REDUCE THAT.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE ASPECTS OF REVIEW PROCESS.
WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PERMITTING AGENCIES IN THE
CITY.
WE HAVE A MEETING THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
WEEKS TO GET US AND THE DESIGN-BUILD TEAM IN THE SAME -- AND
START PARK BEING THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND REALLY GET INTO
THE AREA THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND IMPRESS THE TIME FRAME.
HOW CAN YOU WE ASSURE THAT THE FIRST SUBMISSIONS ARE GOING
TO BE THE SUBMISSIONS AND NOT HAVE TO DO RESUBMITS AND HAVE
THE PERMITTING AGENCY AND THE AUTHORITIES HAVE JURISDICTION.
EVERYTHING THEY NEED AT THE FIRST ITERATION AND GO BACK AND
FORTH.
AND CLOSE UP THOSE BOTTLENECKS AS MAKE SURE WE GET THAT
INTERVIEW PROCESS MOVING AS EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE.
WE ARE LOOKING FOR REDUCTION IN TIME AS WELL.
ALSO SOME OPPORTUNITY WITH THE DESIGN DURATIONS.
WE HAVE BEEN IN CLOSE CONTACT OBVIOUSLY WITH THE DISTRICT
AND THE DESIGN TEAM AND IF IT FITS THEIR SCHEDULE AS WELL,
THEY OUTLINES SOME AREAS WITH ADDITIONAL FLOAT AND PULL THAT
TIME IN.
AS TIME PROGRESSES HERE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO BE PULL DATES
BACK AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS AND EVERYBODY IS
GOING TO LOOK TO WORK THAT IN GOING FORWARD.
LIKEWISE, ALWAYS THE ABILITY TO ENABLING WORK AND EARLY SITE
WORK AND LOOKING AT THE PROJECT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
WORKING WITH A CONTRACTING FIRM AS WELL AS A DESIGN TEAM TO
SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OPPORTUNITIES THERE AS WELL.
THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THE COMING WEEKS AS WE CONTINUE TO
MOVE THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT
AS WE CONTINUE WITH THESE -- THESE UPDATES TO THE COUNCIL,
WE START SEEING THAT THE SCHEDULE WILL BE REQUESTED MORE AND
MORE.
THIS IS -- THE GRAPHIC ON THE LEFT IS JUST MORE OF A BLOW-UP
OF WHERE THE STATION WAS IN REFERENCE TO THE SOFTBALL
COMPLEX AT GRECO.
AND WHERE IT IS LOCATED IN THE CITY.
SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT
THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
01:32:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:32:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
WE MET YESTERDAY.
CAN I GO THROUGH SOME REMARKS IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR?
01:32:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
PRESENTER?
01:32:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DO.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
01:32:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:32:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS SOUNDS FABULOUS THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO
FIND SOME AREA WHERE IS YOU CAN CLOSE SOME GAPS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I AM GLAD THAT BRINGING YOU ON HAS ALREADY BROUGHT ABOUT
CONVERSATIONS.
DO WE EXPECT TO HAVE A MODIFIED SCHEDULE OR TIMELINE?
01:33:04PM >> I WOULD ANTICIPATE SO, YES.
I THINK THAT -- YOU WILL SEE THAT, AGAIN, AS WE GO
PERIODICALLY.
ALREADY HAS AS MODIFIED SCHEDULED BASED ON CONVERSATION
BETWEEN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND THIS COUNCIL MEETING
REDUCING THE OVERALL DIVERSION BY A MONTH WITH -- BETWEEN
THIS MEETING AND THE NEXT MEETING, SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS
THAT WILL HAPPEN.
PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE THAT WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME
IS THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND WORK WITH THE CITY AGENCIES TO
REDUCE THAT AS WELL.
SO BETWEEN THAT DISCUSSION, AS WELL AS ME HAVING OUR
DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY WITH MY TEAM, THE CHIEF AND HER TEAM
ON HOW WE CAN POTENTIALLY REDUCE AND COMPRESS THE SCHEDULE
ON OUR ORDER REVIEWS.
WE OPEN THAT THOSE TWO ITEMS ALONE WILL SHOW SOME
COMPRESSION IN SCHEDULE AT THE NEXT GO-AROUND.
THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE CONTRACT THEY ARE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT TAMPA DESIGN TEAM HAS A CONTROL OF THE REST OF
PHASES OF THE DESIGN.
SO IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE OUR
CONVERSATION AND ONE WILL IMPACT THE OTHER.
PERMITTING DISCUSSIONS WILL ULTIMATELY IMPACT HOW THE DESIGN
TEAM WILL DO THEIR WORK.
OUR HOPE WITH THE PERMITTING GROUPS AND THE AGENCIES AND
DESIGN TEAM CAN LOOK AT THEIR SCHEDULE AND DEAL FROM THE
COMPRESSED SCHEDULE AS WELL.
HOPING TO HAVE MULTIPLE COMPRESSIONS AS WE ARE GO FORWARD
HERE AND BE ABLE TO SHOW THOSE REVISED TIMELINES AT THE NEXT
-- AT THE COMING MEETINGS COMING UP.
01:34:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S GREAT.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT KIRK KALOKIS DOES A LOT OF WORK WITH THE
CITY.
I AM HOPING SINCE THEY HAVE THAT CONNECTION WITH PERMITTING.
WE WILL DEFINITELY MOVE THIS FORWARD.
I WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT CERTAINLY FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
01:34:50PM >> YES.
01:34:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
GENERAL REMARKS AS WE KICK OFF THIS DISCUSSION.
01:34:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU MUCH.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT SAY THIS IS 30 DAYS FROM SEPTEMBER
OF 2026, CORRECT?
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU ARE SAYING SHAVE OFF 30 DAYS FROM
SEPTEMBER OF 2026, MARK, CORRECT?
01:35:10PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
DOWN TO AUGUST OF '26.
01:35:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT IS MY PROBLEM, AND I AM GOING TO TALK AND
GO TO HISTORY.
I APPRECIATE JAY, KEN, CHIEF TRIPP AND MR. MUTTERBACK AND
WANT TO GET THIS MOVING.
AND WILL SHOW A STATION THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTED FOR A WHILE,
BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT I THINK ARE VERY,
VERY IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH BY VIRTUE OF HISTORY.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT AGAIN IN FEBRUARY OF
2025, WE GOT A REPORT ON THIS STATION.
AND I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL, THAT WE WERE TOLD THAT
GROUNDBREAKING WOULD BE AROUND MARCH OF '26 AND WE WERE
UNHAPPY ABOUT THAT.
WE WERE TOLD DIFFERENT THINGS TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS
INCLUDING HIRING A PROJECT MANAGER WHICH WE IS IT.
LAST TIME, WE HEARD SEPTEMBER 2026 THAT FRUSTRATES CHIEF
TRIPP AND LOCAL 754 AND FRUSTRATES TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH BASIC HISTORY ISSUES
HERE, BECAUSE THIS STATION HAS REALLY BEEN A LONG TIME
COMING.
UP PASS OUT TO TAMPA COUNCIL AND I CAN FILE THIS IN THE
PUBLIC RECORD A COUPLE OF DOCUMENTS THAT I THINK ARE VERY,
VERY IMPORTANT FOR TRANSPARENCY ON WHERE WE HAVE BEEN ON
STATION 24.
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT I MARK AS -- WHAT YOU CAN CALL AS
EXHIBIT ONE, IT IS APRIL 20, 2022 DOCUMENT AND E-MAIL FROM
THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOWING FIRE STATION 24 WITH REAL ESTATE
CONSIDERING POTENTIAL SITES.
01:36:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO SAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO --
01:36:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
WITH TAMPA -- AND YOU KNOW WHAT -- YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT IT
ON THE ELMO THERE.
THE PUBLIC CAN'T READ IT.
BUT WHATEVER.
01:36:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. VIERA, DO YOU HAVE A COPY FOR THE
CLERK?
01:37:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
I WAS GOING TO DO A MOTION FOR THAT AFTERWARDS.
SO WE HAVE A DOCUMENT HERE WHICH IS FROM APRIL OF 2022
SHOWING PARTICULAR SITES.
THERE WAS AN EARLY DISCUSSION THAT MY OFFICE HAD WITH CHIEF
TRIPP ON WHERE STATION 24 WAS GOING TO BE ON K-BAR RANCH
VERSUS THE NORTH TAMPA AREA.
EXHIBIT 2, JULY 25, 2022.
E-MAIL FROM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE INQUIRING WHERE 24 WOULD BE.
ANSWER WAS NOT K-BAR RANCH OR NORTH TAMPA.
I DEFER TO CHIEF TRIPP.
YOU DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THOSE.
I APPRECIATE IT.
YOU CAN GO THROUGH THOSE BUT NOT THROUGH THE ELMO THERE.
AN IMPORTANT NOTE BECAUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF 2022.
NEW TAMPA, FOWLER, BUSCH.
WHEN THE CLOCK SHOULD START TICKING FOR STATION NUMBER 24.
IT IS VERY CRITICAL.
EXHIBIT 3, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF, 4092 WHITE WAY WAS
CHOSEN AND LAND HAD BEEN SURVEYED.
END OF 2022, TWO AND THREE QUARTERS YEARS AGO, THE
ADMINISTRATION SAID LISTEN, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO DO
IT.
JANUARY OF 2023 WAS AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN-BUILD
AFTER THEY AGREED WITH THE LAND LOCATION.
DOCUMENT HERE WHICH IS IT EXHIBIT FOUR THAT I HAVE, THERE IS
SOMETHING THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE FEBRUARY 2025 MEETING BY
THE ADMINISTRATION WHERE IT SHOW AS WORK ORDER ISSUED
TO OTERO ENGINEERING FOR $40,000 FOR STATION 24, AS WELL AS
AN OCTOBER-NOVEMBER MANAGEMENT PLAN DELIVERY DONE WITH SITE
INVESTIGATION AND REPORT DELIVERY AGAIN.
THE BALL IS YOU ROLLING.
THIS IS TWO AND A HALF -- LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO, THE
PAUL IS ROLLING WITH VIGOR.
THEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION.
BECAUSE A LOT SAID OF LOCAL 754 AND SAYING, THEY BEAT
THEREFORE SITE.
COUPLE OF THINGS.
ADMINISTRATION ASKING ALWAYS DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT, RIGHT.
TO THE EXTENT A DIALOGUE WITH THE UNION ON THIS SITE.
THERE WAS ONE AND HE WILL GO INTO IT AND DATES AND FACTS ON
THAT.
THAT WAS VERY, VERY SHORT-LIVED.
LOCAL 754 CAME TO ME AND THERE WAS CONCERN OF A AIR I CAN'T
HAVE FIRE STATION.
MY POSITION WAS AT IN WHICH IS LET'S HAVE IT AT WHITE WAY.
NUMBER ONE, THE PROFESSIONALS WILL DO WHAT THEY DO IN
MANAGEMENT -- MAY I HAVE A COUPLE MORE MINUTES, IF I MAY.
01:39:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TWO MORE MINUTES.
OPPOSITION?
UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
01:39:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
PROBABLY NEED THREE BUT FINE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT IS WHEN THINGS STARTED.
NOVEMBER 9 OF ALLERGY, THERE WAS A POST THIS DAY.
ALWAYS A TWEET.
ALWAYS A FACEBOOK POST, RIGHT.
WHERE DONNIE, MR. STOCCO AND I MET WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
TO COMMUNICATE THAT WE -- EVERYBODY WAS -- IT HAD BEEN
AGREED TO FOR STATION 24 BEING ON WHITE WAY.
THAT IS TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO IN THAT REGARD.
YOU GO TO EXHIBIT 6.
I WAS A LITTLE SICK.
NOVEMBER 8, 2023 A MEMO SHOWING THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE
USED FOR STATION 24.
CIVIL ENGINEERING VISIBILITY ANALYSIS WAS DONE.
IN THE PROCESS OF A REQUIREMENT DESIGN PACKAGE.
BALL WAS ROLLING.
NOVEMBER OF 2023.
AND MY FRUSTRATION COMES FROM NOVEMBER OF 2023 TO THE
GROUNDBREAKING, WE ARE TOLD IS GOING TO BE TWO AND A HALF
YEARS FROM THAT TIME WHEN THE BALL WAS ROLLING, AS I WILL
TALK ABOUT.
WE FUNDED DESIGN BEFORE THAT AS THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
AND TOLD TWO AND A HALF YEARS AFTER THAT WAS A PROPER TIME
FOR GROUNDBREAKING, SOMETHING I REALLY CONTEST.
EXHIBIT NUMBER 7, SHOW FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND 2028 BUDGET.
$1.6 MILLION FOR DESIGN.
I SAY WE PASSED DESIGN IN 2023, WE DID NOT VOTE FOR THE
PLANT FOR DESIGN BUT GAVE THE ADMINISTRATION MONEY FOR IT.
JANUARY 2024, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION 2024HORN 139
WHICH SET IN MOTION THROUGH BONDING $16 MILLION TO $17
MILLION TO FUND STATION 4.
THEY HAVE THE TO DESIGN MONEY AND DO MONEY THROUGH BONDS.
EVERYTHING WAS SET FEBRUARY 2025.
THEN WE HAVE MEETING.
EXHIBIT NUMBER 8.
MARCH 21 OF 2025 WAS A REMINDER THAT FEBRUARY 6 OF BEEF WE
WILL HAVE A MEETING THAT WE ARE TOLD ON MARCH 2026 OF
GROUNDBREAKING DATE.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS NOT HAPPY WITH THAT.
WE ARE TOLD CERTAIN THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO EXPEDITE
THAT.
THIS MEMO IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
A MEMO FROM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE THAT SHOWED AN EXPEDITED
PROCESS OF ACCELERATING THE SCHEDULED.
NOT ACCELERATING WITHIN 461 DAYS.
SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN STAYED BEFORE.
WE VOTE AND ON THAT.
ALL YOU HAVE US WERE FRUSTRATED IN MARCH OF 20626.
TIMELINE OF 461 DAYS.
IF WE DID NOT APPROVE, WE WOULD DELAY THIS PROJECT EAST EVEN
MORE AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE VOTED FOR THAT.
NOT TO DO A 461 DAYS, BUT TO PUSH IT WITHIN AND BEFORE MARCH
OF 2026.
YOU SEE SOME MEMO AFTER COUNCIL WHERE -- CONTINUED TO BE
UPDATED.
SO BOTTOM LINE IS WITH THIS THAT THIS IS A STATION.
IT IS GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING.
WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT ON ALL OF THIS.
BUT THE TIMELINE OF TWO AND A HALF YEARS FROM THE END OF
NOVEMBER OF 2023 TO SEPTEMBER -- ACTUALLY THREE YEARS TO
SETTLEMENT OF 2026 FOR A GROUNDBREAKING TO ME IS
UNACCEPTABLE AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
TIMELINE.
COUNCIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME.
01:43:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I RECOGNIZE CHIEF TRIPP.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE I RECOGNIZE NICK
STOCCO.
01:43:25PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
NO, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
01:43:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP.
WE HAD LONG DISCUSSION WITH THIS.
AND I KNOW AS WELL AS WITH THE UNION.
AND WE WILL GET THERE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:43:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA FIRE UNION, NICK
STOCCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
YES, SIR.
STATE YOUR NAME.
01:43:52PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA FIRE
FIGHTERS.
CHAIRMAN, CITY STAFF, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC,
THANK YOU.
I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF
HIGHLIGHTING HOW YOU IT GOT HERE.
AND I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
NOT TO DISCREDIT THE PRESENTATION FROM THE PROJECT MANAGER
OR DISCREDIT ANY OF THE INFORMATION THEY SAID, I THINK WE
REALLY NEED TO FOCUS WHAT GOT US HERE TODAY.
LOOKING AT NOVEMBER OF 2022 OR APRIL OF 2022, HOW IS IT NOW
JUNE OF 2025, AND WE ARE RECEIVING WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE
RECEIVED IN 2023 FOLLOWING THE 2022 LAND SELECTION.
DO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA DID A VERY
GOOD JOB OF HIGHLIGHTING THE TIMELINE HOW YOU IT GOT HERE,
SO I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS FROM US.
HOWEVER, I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA REALLY DID
HIGHLIGHT ALL OF OUR TALKING POINTS WE WERE GOING TO SAY
TODAY.
01:44:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS?
01:44:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST A STATEMENT.
01:44:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:44:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU COULD HAVE BUILT A FOOTBALL STADIUM
IN THAT TIME.
01:45:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LOOKING FOR A FOOTBALL STADIUM.
I HAVE A QUESTION.
IS THE UNION INVOLVED AT ALL IN THE DESIGN PHASE OF THIS --
THESE STATIONS ARE YOU PART OF THE -- ARE YOU A PARTICIPANT
IN THIS PROCESS?
01:45:19PM >> NO.
OUR NEGOTIATIONS IN OCTOBER OF 2022, WE RATIFIED A CONTRACT
THAT ANY TIME A FIRE STATION WILL GO THROUGH MAJOR
RENOVATIONS OR THAT NEW FIRE STATIONS WERE TO DEB SIGNED OR
CONSTRUCTED THERE WOULD BE A STATION DESIGN COMMITTEE.
DOES NOT EXPLICITLY SAY THAT THE UNION WILL HAVE A SEAT AT
THE TABLE; HOWEVER, THERE WERE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE AT
THAT TABLE FROM WHEN THE SELECTION PROCESS WAS MADE LATE IN
AUGUST OF 2024.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT CONCRETE OUR LANGUAGE IN 2022
THROUGH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
WE HAD ONLY MADE IT A POINT THAT A STATION DESIGN COMMITTEE
WOULD BE ESTABLISHED AT ANY TIME THAT MAJOR RENOVATIONS OF
FIRE STATIONS OR ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS WOULD BE BUILT.
01:46:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:46:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A CLARIFICATION FOR CHIEF TRIPP.
THANK YOU, MR. STOCCO.
01:46:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GET YOUR EXERCISE THIS MORNING.
I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION SO DON'T GO FAR.
01:46:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DON'T GO FAR.
01:46:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAY LOCAL.
01:46:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AS FAR AS THE BUDGET GOES, I KNOW I HAVE SEEN
SOME THINGS.
I AM CURIOUS WHAT IS WILL GO IN THIS FIRE STATION.
DO WE ALREADY HAVE THE APPARATUS WE NEED FOR THIS STATION?
01:46:53PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES, WE DO.
01:46:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT SHOULD NOT BE PART OF THE BUDGET.
01:46:58PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THAT'S CORRECT.
WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO REPLACE.
I STRATEGICALLY PICKED YOU WHAT IS COMING,
THERE IS COMING LIKE ADDITIONAL RESCUE CARS.
I KIND OF ORDER IT AHEAD OF TIME KNOWING THAT IT WAS COMING.
IT WAS AN OLDER VEHICLE SO I ORDERED A NEW VEHICLE FOR 24.
01:47:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT OFF OF -- I WANTED
TO DOUBLE CHECK BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ON THE
RECORD.
01:47:28PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES, MA'AM.
01:47:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NICK, CAN YOU STAND UP.
WILL STOCCO, PRESIDENT STOCCO.
01:47:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO ARE MINDS THE PUBLIC.
WE IDENTIFIED THIS AS THE URGENT NEED YEARS AGO.
I SUPPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND OTHERS WHO PUSHED FOR
THIS EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE THE
BIGGEST NEED IN THE CITY AND HOPING THAT THIS WOULD GO
QUICKLY AND BY NOW WE WILL HAVE STATIONS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT
WORKING IN OTHER AREAS.
CAN YOU FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE TELL US IN YOUR ANALYSIS, IN
THE UNION'S ANALYSIS, HOW MANY MORE STATIONS WE NEED AND
WHAT THE -- WHAT THE OVERALL NEED IS FOR FACILITIES AND
EQUIPMENT, LIKE -- NOT THE LONG, LONG LIST BUT JUST IN
GENERAL?
01:48:09PM >> SURE, WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON A NEW GIS STUDY THAT
WILL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO ALIGN WITH ALL THE ADDITIONAL
GROWTH THAT HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
THE LAST STUDY WE DID IN 2022 THROUGH THE GIS STUDY CALLED
FOR THREE IMMEDIATE STATIONS.
IT WAS ONE IN CHANNELSIDE.
AND IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, TWO IN THE NORTH TAMPA AREA.
ONE BECAUSE THE LONG RESPONSE TIMES IN THE K-BAR RANCH AREA
AND ONE IN THE MORE CENTRAL SULPHUR SPRINGS, FOREST HILL
AREA BECAUSE OF THE CALL VOLUME.
IMMEDIATE CALL IN 2022 FOR THREE ADDITIONAL STATIONS.
AND THERE WAS ADDITIONAL 17 THAT WERE CALLED FOR IN 2022.
UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE MORE OF A DENSITY ISSUE HERE IN
THE URBAN CORE THAN A GEOGRAPHICAL ISSUE FOR DISTANCES
BECAUSE OF TIME FRAMES FOR THE DENSITY WHY THE 17 WAS CALLED
FOR.
INCLUDING SOUTH TAMPA FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR FIRE
STATIONS DUE TO THE GROWTH AND SOUTH TAMPA.
01:49:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
01:49:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TRANSITIONED OFF OF 97.
ANYTHING FURTHER ON FIRE STATION 24?
BECAUSE THIS KIND OF TRANSITIONED INTO 96.
01:49:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY.
THANK YOU VERY, SIR.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IN CLOSING WITH THIS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO
HAVE THE REPORTS ON THEREIN.
AND I WILL CONTINUE TO MEET WITH -- WITH OUR PROJECT
MANAGER, KEITH GUYETTE, CHIEF TRIPP AND WITH MR. MUTTERBACK WITH
DIFFERENT FOLKS ON THAT.
AGAIN, SEPTEMBER OF 2026 APPEARS TO BE THE NEW MARK.
I AM EXTREMELY NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT AT ALL, BUT IF WE CAN
CONDITION TO SHAVE TIME.
WE HAVE.
AND WE WILL HAVE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF FOLKS FROM THE UNIONS TO THE CHIEF AND
THE OTHERS ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THAT.
AND WE WILL HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND CONTINUE TO
WORK TO SHAVE TIME OFF OF THAT.
WE WERE FRUSTRATED MARCH '26.
IMAGINE THE FRUSTRATION WITH SEPTEMBER OF '26.
AS WE DO MONTHLY REPORTS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.
THANK YOU.
01:50:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITHOUT OBJECTION, GO BACK TO 96, THE
MASTER PLAN.
01:50:21PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, CHIEF TRIPP.
AND I HAVE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF JENKINS FOR ASSISTANCE.
MORE OF AN INTERNAL MASTER PLAN, BASICALLY BASED ON THE NEED
ANALYSIS DON'T IN 2021 AND 2022.
PROGRESS REPORT, UPDATE OR WHATEVER.
BASED ON THAT NEED ANALYSIS, I COME UP YOU WITH DATA AND
RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE, WHAT WE
HAVE DONE, AND WHERE WE SHOULD BE HEADED TO IN THE FUTURE.
OF COURSE SOME OF THE INFORMATION IN HERE IS GOING TO DEAL
WITH THE STUDY FROM FITCH AND ASSOCIATES.
THE GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN FIRE RESCUE.
IT IS A PROGRESSIVE, PROFESSIONAL, AND COMPREHENSIVE INTENT.
THE GOAL IS TO IMPLEMENT ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY WHILE SERVING
THE COMMUNITY AND BASICALLY WE WANT TO DO IT IN EFFECTIVE
AND EFFICIENT WAY.
01:51:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL SUGGEST GO TO THE SLIDE FOR
EXPEDIENCY.
01:51:40PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
WHAT PAGE DO YOU WANT TO GO TO?
01:51:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE MEAT.
01:51:57PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
SOME HISTORY BACK IN 2020, I GOT SWORN IN.
TAMPA FEE RESCUE WERE FACED A LOT OF CHALLENGES, COVID,
SUPER BOWL, ACCREDITATION AND THE CALL VOLUME THAT WAS UP IN
NORTH TAMPA AREA STATION 13.
SO A CONSULTANT WAS HIRED FOR A ANALYSIS, WHICH IS FITCH AND
ASSOCIATES.
BASED ON THE RESULTS, THEY GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK SAYING THAT
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WAS AN APARTMENT ONE OF 300 AGENCIES
THROUGH THE CENTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND EXCELLENCE OUT OF
30,000 AGENCIES.
WELL THE DEPARTMENT IN THE TOP 10% WITH AN ISO.
AND WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS LISTED HERE.
THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION, I AM GOING TO IDENTIFY SOME OF
THE POSITIVE RESULTS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED WITH THE NEW
DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
NOW YOU SEE SOME OF THE DATA POINTS.
IT IS ARE REFERENCE AS FAR AS RECOMMENDATIONS, HIGHLIGHTED
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE REFERENCES AND STEPS THAT ARE COMPLETED
OR ACTUALLY IN PROGRESS.
ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WAS TALKING OF RESPONSE TIME WHICH IS
PERFORMANCE TIME WHICH WAS A MAJOR CONCERN AND THE EXCESSIVE
WORKLOAD.
ADMINISTRATION MADE CHANGES TO ITS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES
AND HELP WITH THIS RESPONSE TIME.
WE ALSO HAD INCREASED PERSONNEL AND DECREASED OUR VACANCY
RATE,
AS WELL AS IMPLEMENTING THE NEW C.A.D. SYSTEM.
HIGHLIGHT TO SHOW THAT ONCE THIS ADMINISTRATION CAME INTO
PLAY, OUR VACANCY RATE WAS HIGH.
CURRENTLY DOWN 34.86 AND ONE OF THE LOWEST ONES WITHIN THE
CITY OF TAMPA SHOWS IN ' 1 HIRED 15 FIRE FIGHTERS.
'24, 38.
SO FAR THIS YEAR WE HIRED 15 THAT WILL BE GRADUATING
TOMORROW TO BE PART OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
HERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM FITCH AND
ASSOCIATES.
AND, OF COURSE, TALKS OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE
DEPARTMENTAL COVERAGE.
TFR HAS ORDERED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES LIKE AREA LADDER AND
PLAN TO STRATEGICALLY IMPLEMENT THEM IN THE AREAS WHERE IT
IS NEEDED.
WE ARE GOING TO TALK OF THE REDUCTION OF UNITS BEING
DEPLOYED.
THAT IS GOING TO TAKE FOR POLICY CHANGES AS WELL AS THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW C.A.D. SYSTEM, OF THE FUTURE
GOALS INCLUDING EQUIPMENT, AND, OF COURSE, FIRE STATION
WITHIN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
NUMBER 25 THAT WE HAVE TWO TRANSPORT UNITS COMING OUT OF
THERE.
WE WAIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF 24, THIS ADMINISTRATION
ADDED A NEW ENGINE RUNNING OUT OF STATION 13 TO ASSIST WITH
THE CAL VOLUME.
ON TOP OF THAT, THE EQUIPMENT FROM THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
WE HAVE ADDED FOUR ADDITIONAL TRANSPORT UNITS BASED ON
RECOMMENDATIONS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO ADDING ANOTHER ONE
BEFORE THE END OF THIS QUARTER AS WELL AS HOPEFULLY GET
APPROVED FOR ADDITION OF PERSONNEL TO ADD ANOTHER TRANSPORT
BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
NEW RESCUE THAT WAS ADDED IN NEW TAMPA.
JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME NUMBERS BASED ON THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS, AS WELL AS THE CALL VOLUME IN EACH ONE OF
Y'ALL'S DISTRICT.
IF YOU EVER WANTED TO SEE THE GRID, THAT BASICALLY TAMPA
FIRE RESCUE IS BROKEN UP IN FIVE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND
BASICALLY THIS IS HOW WE RESPOND TO OUR CALLS.
IF I TALK OF THE HISTORICAL HISTORY THAT WAS ONE OF THE
CHALLENGES GOES BACK IN '21-'22.
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FROM THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION
AGENCY WHICH IS FNPA, AS WELL AS THE CFAI, THE COMMISSION ON
FIRE ACCREDITATION AND THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
THIS IS THEIR FOURTH ACCREDITATION AND COMING UP WITH REAL
ACCREDITATION WITHIN THEIR FUTURE.
PART OF THAT IS OUR DISPATCH, TURNOUT TIME, TRAVEL TIME,
WHICH WILL GIVE YOU THE RESPONSE TIME.
IF THIS BATCH TALKS OF THE TIME THAT THE CALL COMES IN,
TURNOUT TIME.
THE TIME IT TAKES FOR THE PERSONNEL TO GO -- TO GET OUT TO
THE VEHICLES AND RESPOND TO THE CALLS THAT GIVE YOU YOUR
TOTAL TIME, BUT, OF COURSE, YOUR TRAVEL TIME.
A LOT GOES INTO PLAY WITH THAT WHEN YOU TALK OF TRAFFIC.
WITH THIS NEW C.A.D. SYSTEM AND POLICY CHANGES GREAT
IMPROVEMENT WITH THE TOTAL RESPONSE TIME WITH DISPATCHING
AND TURNOUT TIMES.
TRAVEL TIMES ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS WITH THE TRAFFIC AND
GROWTH OF CITY AND HOPING TO IMPLEMENT A PRE-EXEMPTION TO
HELP EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GO THROUGH THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
UP WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT OF THE THE RESPONSE TIME.
AN AVERAGE OVERVIEW OF THE RESPONSE TIME FROM THE TIME THE
CALL RECEIVED AND PERSONNEL ARRIVING ON SCENE BROKEN DOWN BY
THE YEARS.
OF COURSE, WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN WITH THE DIFFERENT SHIFTS.
AND REPRESENTS NINE MINUTES OR LESS.
YELLOW REPRESENTS NINE TO 11 MINUTES AND RED GREATER THAN 11
MINUTES.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT PLAY
INTO THAT.
BASED ON MY CHART, I WAS ONLY ABLE TO GET TWO YEARS IN HERE
SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO READ IT, BUT IF YOU SEE, IT IS THE
FIRST QUARTER OF 2025 IS BROKEN DOWN BY THE SHIFTS AND
UNITS.
CALL RECEIVED TO FIRST DISPATCH.
YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM SHOWING RED, WHICH IS WHERE THIS
NEW C.A.D. SYSTEM WILL DEFINITELY HELP TO GET THESE CALLS
OUT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, ANYWHERE BETWEEN TWO TO THREE
MINUTES.
THAT HAS AN EFFECT ON OUR TOTAL RESPONSE TIME.
THIS IS DEFINITELY AN AREA IMPROVING WITH THE CHANGES THAT
WE HAVE AND WILL INCLUDE POLICY CHANGES.
IT WILL HELP DECREASE EXCESS SELF UNITS BEING DISPATCHED.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE DISPATCH TOO MANY UNITS
TO A CALL -- TOO MANY UNNECESSARY UNITS TO A CALL.
BASICALLY ALL OF THAT WILL ASSIST WITH THE RESPONSE TIME
ONCE THIS C.A.D. IS IMPLEMENTED.
SO THIS IS FOR '22.
A COUPLE AS THE YEARS GO ON.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW WE ARE ABLE TO BREAK DOWN
SOME OF THE NUMBERS.
THE RESCUE TRANSPORT UNIT BROKEN DOWN OVER FOUR QUARTER AND
THE TOTAL OF HOURS ALONG WITH THE INCIDENTS.
BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS SHOWING THE UNIT HOUR UTILIZATION AND
THE AVERAGE HOURS A DAY WITHIN A 24 HOURS IN A DAY.
GREEN SHOWS 30% ON THEIR SHIFT.
YELLOW, 40%, AND RED SHOWS 50%.
RIGHT NOW THIS IS 22 BEFORE WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL UNITS.
WE ADDED TWO TRANSPORT UNITS THAT WERE STATION 25.
WE ALSO ADDED RESCUE 19 DOWN IN SOUTH TAMPA IN '23.
OF COURSE, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THE GREEN IS GOING TO
INCREASE WITH THAT.
WE ARE LOOKING TO ADD STATION -- RESCUE 12 AND ADDED RESCUE
6 AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO HELP WITH DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
SAME CHART AND BASICALLY ANOTHER YEAR.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT HAS IMPLEMENTED FROM THE
RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING
BETTER AND BETTER.
THIS IS, OF COURSE -- THIS IS YEAR '24.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GREEN IS SHOWING DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE
ARE LOOKING INTO.
AND, OF COURSE, ONCE WE ADD THESE TRANSPORT UNITS, WE ARE
HOPING THAT WHOLE SHEET WILL BE GREEN.
THE NEXT SHEET JUST TALKS OF THE ENGINES.
THE TRANSFER -- NONTRANSPORT UNITS AND GIVE YOU AN IDEA IF
THEY ARE HAVING UTILIZATION THIS MONTH.
THE REASON I PUT THIS IN HERE IS BASICALLY TO SHOW YOU WHEN
THE CALL VOLUME TAKES PLACE.
OF COURSE WE TALK OF PEAK HOURS.
JUST USE STATION 13 AS AN EXAMPLE.
OF COURSE, IT HAS THE NUMBER OF CALLS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
THIS IS FOR '21, '22, '23, AND '24.
BASICALLY SHOW -- I AM SORRY, YES, ENGINE 24 AND, I THINK,
AGAIN 13.
PEAK HOURS GO INTO EFFECT AROUND 9:30 AND 10:00 UP UNTIL
8:00 AT NIGHT, GIVE OR TAKE.
THIS IS ALL THE RESCUE CARS.
AND BASICALLY FOR THOSE YEARS.
JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU -- ALL THESE CHARTS BASICALLY HAVE
THAT SAME PEAK HOURS WHEN THE CALL VOLUME STARTS INCREASING.
AND THIS LAST ONE IS ALL THE ENGINES OVER 24-HOUR PERIOD.
IF YOU NOTICE, YOU STILL HAVE THAT DURING THE SAME TIME
PRETTY MUCH FROM 10 TO 8.
SO JUST TO CONCLUDE, FOCUS ON THE CITY OF TAMPA OF THE
COMMUNITY.
ONE OF THE OLDEST CAREER DEPARTMENT WITH A RICH HISTORY AS
WELL AS TRADITION.
FUTURE OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE
PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE.
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE TAMPA
FIRE RESCUE A SAFE, RESPECTFUL, WELCOMING PLACE FOR ALL
EMPLOYEES.
WE KNOW THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GROWING AND ONCE AGAIN, TFR
ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO CONTINUE AND MONITOR AND SHIFT
PRIORITIES WITH DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND GOALS IN MINE.
THE SAFETY AND PRIORITY FOR INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL AND ON
GOING PROJECTS THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING NOW.
AS WE TALK OF THE MASTER PLAN, THESE ARE SOME OF THE KEYS
OBJECTS AND STRATEGIC STRATEGIES THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO
IMPLEMENT THAT IS TO IMPLEMENT -- FIVE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT
WE WILL TALK OF MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING, DATA DRIVEN
STRATEGIES AND BASICALLY TO ASSIST WITH THE GROWTH AND THE
COMMUNITY NEEDS.
I WILL JUST RUN THROUGH THESE REAL QUICK.
SO WE TALK ABOUT OF THE OBJECTIVES WAS THE HEALTH AND
WELLNESS.
OF COURSE, WE ARE LOOKING TO CONTINUE THE PARTNERSHIP, YOU
KNOW, I BELIEVE TERM STATEWIDE AND INDIVIDUALS ARE GETTING
THEIR EXTRA SET OF BUCKET GEAR.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING GEAR CLEANING SITES
WITHIN EACH DISTRICT.
BUT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THERE -- THE GEAR WASH
NEEDED THROUGH OUR SUPPLY.
WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND SEE EVALUATE THE MECHANICS AND
PROVIDE SUPPORT AND RESOURCES AS NEEDED FOR ANY TYPE OF
MENTAL HEALTH THROUGHOUT OUR EIP PROGRAM AND CSID STEAM.
OF COURSE, WHEN WE TALK OF MODERNIZATION.
A LOT OF VEHICLES NOW ARE COMING IN -- ARE -- THEY HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO PRECONDEMN WITH -- WITH DECONTAMINATION OPTIONS.
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE CONTINUES TO SUPPORT THE TRAINING AND
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADVANCEMENT IN GROWTH.
OF COURSE, WE ARE TRYING TO GROW OUR LEADERS AND DOING IT
INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY THROUGH DIFFERENT CONFERENCES,
WITH THE U.S. FIRE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS THE STATE OF
FLORIDA SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A SUCCESSION
PLAN.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ONE OF THE OTHER OBJECTIVES IS
INCREASING COMMUNITY RESILIENCE.
WE ARE IN HIGH TARGET AREAS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY INCLUDING
THE FIRES.
OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, MULTIPLE PUBLIC OUTREACH WITHIN
THE COMMUNITY AND THE LOCAL PARTNERS.
INSTALLED SMOKE DETECT TERES, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL
CAMPAIGNS.
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOW GETTING READY TO CAMPAIGN WITH THE
WATER DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS DISPERSING QUARTERLY MAILERS
EDUCATING WITH FIRE PREVENTION WEEK, SWIMMING CHALLENGES.
WE HAVE HEALTH AND SAFETY EVENTS.
OF COURSE MARCH 10 -- I'M SORRY, MAY 10, CELEBRATE 120 YEARS
AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN AROUND WHICH IS AN EXCELLENT
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY COME OUT.
AND WE EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON HANDS-ONLY CPR, A CENTER
PROGRAM, THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE PROGRAM WHICH HAS OPINION
SUCCESSFUL.
AND TO DATE, WE HAVE OVER 220 COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT ARE
READY TO HELP US ON THE NATURAL DISASTERS THAT WE HAD.
ONE OF THE OTHER OBJECTIVES MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS A
MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE IS, OF COURSE,
THIS C.A.D. SYSTEM.
THIS C.A.D. SYSTEM WILL AN KEY COMPONENT TO MAKING SURE THAT
WE ARE GOING TO GET THE DOLLARS WE NEED TO STRATEGICALLY
LOCATE ADDITIONAL STATIONS OR PERSONNEL WITHIN COMMUNITY.
CURRENTLY OUR SYSTEM IS OUTDATED.
HAS BEEN OUTDATED FOR MANY YEARS.
WHEN I WAS STILL OUT ON THE STREET.
BUT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WORKING HARD WITH INTERIM
STAKEHOLDERS TO GET THEM IMPLEMENTED AND HOPING TO HAVE IT
BY THE FALL OF NEXT YEAR.
WITH THAT, HELP US IDENTIFY AND I DID PATCH A UNIT FOR
QUICKER RESPONSE AND CLASSIFY THE CALLS WITH THE TYPE AND
LOCATIONS TO PROCEED BETTER SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY WHICH
STRATEGIC FOR THE GROWTH OF THE CITY.
STATION REMODELING.
AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING STATION 24.
WITH THAT, WE ARE LOOKING FOR FACILITY TO -- FOR THE REPAIRS
OF FLEET FACILITY TO REPAIRS OF VEHICLES AS WELL AS STORAGE.
WE STARTED A VEHICLE REPLACEMENT TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO
KEEP UP WITH OUR VEHICLES.
I WANT TO SAY KEEP UP WITH OUR VEHICLES TO MAKE SURE WE
DON'T HAVE THE OLD OUTDATED VEHICLES.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE WORKING TO WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT
VENDORS TO GET THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLES TO GET MORE BANG FOR
OUR BUCK.
ALL RIGHT.
ONCE AGAIN, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE OUTSTANDING ALL HAZARD AGENCY
WITH OUTSTANDING MOTIVATED AND PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES.
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDATION AND HAS
IMPLEMENTED THEM WHILE OTHERS ARE STILL IN PROGRESS.
OUR UTILIZATION HAS AND HAS STILL BEEN ADDRESSED AND THE
DATA SHOW AGING FRONT-LINE APPARATUS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND
BEING MONITORED.
TECHNOLOGY IS A WORK IN PROCESS AND WE ARE -- WE ARE NOT
BEING RESOLVED IN 24 HOURS.
I CAN ATTEST TO THE LAST FOUR YEAR.
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE HAVE YOU MADE GREAT STRIDES TO OVERCOME
CHALLENGES WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF CITY OF OFFICIALS, LEADERS
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE.
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE IS BACK ON THE MAP.
BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, AS ITS
TECHNOLOGY.
IMPLEMENTED AND A MASTER PLAN.
AND I WANT TO THANK THE 800-PLUS MEMBERS OF TAMPA FIRE
RESCUE, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR UNWAVERING SUPPORT
OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
YESTERDAY, I CELEBRATED MY FOUR YEARS AS BEING SWORN IN AS
THE FIRST FEMALE FIRE CHIEF.
I STATED THAT I WOULD BE WORKING HARD AS THEY WERE AND SERVE
AND PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.
I PRAY I HAVE PROVEN THAT COMMITMENT BY MY ACTIONS AND
WALKING THE WALK AND NOT JUST THE TALK.
THANK YOU.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
ANSWER THEM.
02:07:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
FIRST CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR FOURTH ANNIVERSARY.
02:08:05PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THANK YOU.
02:08:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT HAS BEEN AN EASY RIDE, HASN'T IT?
02:08:10PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
JUST A DELIGHT.
02:08:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST A DELIGHT.
02:08:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO MENTION THAT I WOULD
MAKE A MOTION ON THIS.
LONG STORY SHORT, COUNCIL, WE DEALT -- THE ADMINISTRATION
CREATED THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN OR DID IT, I GUESS YOU
WILL, UNDER THE FITCH REPORT, I BELIEVE, CHIEF THERE ARE
2022, IF I RECALL.
AND I -- I THINK IT IS GOOD TO HAVE AN AMENDED ONE.
YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS.
AND YOU EARNED THAT THE C.A.D. WILL CHANGE THE NUMBERS AND
THAT WILL BE A YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEARS.
AND I THINK IT IS SMART TO RECEIVE WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT
NOW, INCLUDING THE AGE OF STATIONS AND THINGS LIKE AT THIS
POINT.
THE C.A.D. WILL CHANGE THINGS WILL TAKE SOME TIME.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL THINKS, I WOULD HATE TO WAIT
ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF YEARS FOR ANOTHER ANALYSIS.
MY OPINION, CHIEF.
WHAT I WILL DO, COUNCIL, WITH Y'ALL'S SUPPORT IS TO DO A
MOTION TO HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT COME BACK IN MARCH OR
OCTOBER OF '25 ON -- '25.
THIS YEAR ON THE -- ON THE VISIBLE OF DOING AN UPDATED
PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN THROUGH YOU GUYS' PERSPECTIVE.
AND I WILL PUT THE VERBIAGE IN THE MOTION AND ALL THAT KIND
OF GOOD STUFF.
I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN
TERMS OF THE NEEDS AND EVERYTHING.
THE WAY YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME OF -- AND UNION TALKED KEY
AREAS DOWNTOWN TAMPA I THINK IT IS A CRITICAL AREA.
WE TALK OF NEW TAMPA IF I MAY ASK YOU, HOW -- HOW ARE THINGS
GOING WITH THE MORRIS BRIDGE CUT-THRU?
IF YOU -- IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT?
DO YOU NEED --
02:10:03PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I HAVE NOT -- LAST I SPOKE TO -- BEFORE VIK
RETIRED.
BRANDON -- I WILL REACH OUT TO BRANDON.
02:10:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE CAN TAKE THAT UP.
02:10:16PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I CAN SPEAK TO IT QUICKLY.
YOU MADE A MOTION, AND WE HAD A STAFF REPORT.
CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH AGENDA ITEM IT IS ON.
BECAUSE OF THE BASSET CREEK CROSSING.
NOT REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO INSTALL A TEMPORARY
EXTENSION OUT TO -- TO MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD, BUT THERE IS
PROGRESS ON THE PERMANENT SOLUTION.
SO --
02:10:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
I AM GLAD -- SERENDIPITOUS.
IF I MAY, SIR, IF I MAY, ROUGHLY HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THAT
WILL TAKE FOR THE PERMANENT SOLUTIONS.
02:10:51PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
THE DETAILS ARE IN THAT STAFF REPORT, I
WILL GIVE YOU A BETTER NUMBER THAN I HAVE FLOATING IN MY
HEAD.
02:10:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE BRIDGE OVER WETLANDS.
02:11:01PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES.
02:11:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CHIEF, QUESTION FOR YOU.
I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, YOU HAVE AMBITIOUS VISION ON FIRE
STATIONS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE -- BY THE WAY, CONGRATULATIONS
FOR FOUR YEARS.
TIME GOES BY FAST.
02:11:20PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
FOR YOU.
02:11:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAYBE NOT THERE.
02:11:25PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
IT HAS.
IT HAS.
02:11:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TIME HAS GONE BY FAST.
IN YOUR OPINION, AS THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE CHIEF, HOW MANY
STATIONS DO YOU THINK WE NEED ADDITIONALLY THROUGHOUT THE
CITY OF TAMPA?
YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE A BIG ISSUE OF DISCUSSION FOR -- I AM
NOT GOING TO BE HERE -- BEFORE THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION AND
TALKING AND EVERYTHING.
JUST IN YOUR OPINION, AS A PROFESSIONAL, IF YOU CAN OPINE,
HOW MANY STATIONS AND WHERE YOU THINK WE NEED SOME.
OBVIOUSLY TALKING OF NORTH TAMPA.
MAKING COMPROMISE ON NEW TAMPA.
WHAT OTHER AREAS?
02:12:00PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
DISCUSS HOW MANY STATIONS WE NEED.
FIRST THING WE NEED TO TAKE THE 60, 70-YEAR-OLD STATIONS
THAT WE HAVE AND REBUILD THEM FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.
YOU THINK ABOUT FIRE DEPARTMENT.
EMS WAS NOT INVOLVED.
NOW WE ARE GOING TO MEDICAL CALLS.
WE PUT MORE RESOURCES IN THESE SMALL STATION SO AS IT
IS COMPACT.
WHEN I GO TO TRY TO REMODEL THESE STATIONS, IT IS VERY HARD.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS I TRY TO GET IS THE PORTABLE FIRE
STATION TO TAKE IT, BRING IT IN, TEAR THE STATION DOWN,
REBUILD IT, AND TAKE THAT PORTABLE FIRE STATION AND MOVE IT
TO THE NEXT ONE.
IF WE DO ONE A YEAR -- I THINK CURRENTLY OUR STATIONS ARE
STRAW STRATEGICALLY LOCATED.
PLAYING LIBRARY SHUFFLEBOARD.
MOVING HERE DURING THIS TIME PERIOD.
WITH THAT JUST LIKE I SHOWED YOU DATA OF -- AND WHEN I SAY
"DATA" I AM TALKING OF DATA THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING
TO THESE CALLS.
WHERE OUR MEMBERS ARE AND WHAT IS NEEDED.
IF I PUT A FIRE STATION HERE, WHAT RESOURCES ARE AM I GOING
TO PUT IN THERE.
NEED TRANSPORT UNITS OR A FIRE ENGINE.
DO NEED AN AERIAL TRUCK WITH MY HIGH-RISES?
THAT NEEDS TO BE ASSESSED, YOU KNOW.
I AM NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED FIRE STATIONS.
I AM SAYING WE NEED TO TAKE WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND ADD THOSE
RESOURCES AND THEN JUST MODERN THE CALLS NOW.
SINCE WE PUT THESE ADDITIONAL TRANSPORT UNITS -- WHEN I SAY
THE CALL VOLUME HAS DECREASED PER UNIT.
WE STILL HAVE CALLS WITHIN THE CITY BECAUSE WE RAN 92,000
LAST YEAR.
STILL HAVE THE CALLS.
THEY ARE INCREASING BUT ALSO WITH THAT TALK OF THE RESPONSE
TIME, HOW QUICK WE GET THERE, THE RESOURCES.
A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT IF THE WE NEED A STATION
OR DON'T NEED A FIRE STATION.
02:14:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND THEN HURTAK.
02:14:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM GOOD.
02:14:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SAW YOU FIRST.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:14:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR PRESENTATION.
IF YOU COULD JUST A QUICK LITTLE UPDATE ON C.A.D.
HOW ARE WE DOING?
02:14:18PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
DOING GREAT WITH C.A.D.
THEY GIVE YOU 15 TO 18 MONTHS.
WE ARE ON TRACK AND LITTLE BIT AHEAD.
I AM HOPING AND PRAYING THAT WE WILL USE IT THE FALL OF NEXT
YEAR IF NOT SOONER.
THAT WILL BE OUR 18 MONTH.
WE ARE ON SCHEDULE AND GETTING READY TO START DOING SOME
TESTING.
AND THEY ARE MOVING AHEAD WITH IT.
02:14:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE WE HAD HEARD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO --
THAT CERTAIN THINGS WOULD BE ABLE TO COME ONLINE AS THE
SYSTEM WENT THROUGH.
ANYTHING COME ONLINE YET?
02:14:55PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
NOT YET.
IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THE DESIGN PHASE.
GETTING DATA WITH THE GIS.
THEY ARE GETTING STUFF ROLLING.
02:15:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
ONE MORE QUESTION.
AND IT JUST JOGGED MY MEMORY.
THIS IS COMPLETELY LEFT FIELD AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT
BECAUSE IT RELATES TO SOMETHING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
EARLIER TODAY.
PURCHASING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW LATTER APPARATUS.
ONE OF THE THINGS I HEAR ABOUT OFTEN WHEN ARRIVED ALONG WITH
FIRE CREW IS TREE DAMAGE TO THESE BUCKET AND LADDER TRUCKS.
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THE TREES
CAUSE TO THEE THESE -- TO THESE TRUCKS IN TERMS OF MONEY AND
-- HOW OFTEN THEY NEED TO BE FIXED?
02:15:47PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
SO RECENTLY HAD ONE -- WHAT WAS IT 50 -- WHAT
WAS IT 50,000?
SO STATION 13 DID DAMAGE TO THEIR BUCKET.
LET'S TALK ABOUT PRECONING THESE VEHICLES.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT CHALLENGE, WHEN WE GO TO PURCHASE
AND BUY A VEHICLE, IT IS UP FOR ADMINISTRATION TO CHANGE THE
DESIGN OF IT.
WE STILL CAN HAVE THE SAME FUNCTIONAL OPERATION OF THAT
VEHICLE, BUT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE DESIGN OF IT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE, THIS ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE OF THE
RECENT CHALLENGES WE HAD, WE CHANGED FROM THE FRONT MOUNT
MID MOUNT.
SO BASICALLY WILL BE SITTING LOWER AND COME OUT A DIFFERENT
WAY.
INSTEAD OF IN FRONT OF THE CAB WHETHER I IS HIGH, A MID
MOUNT.
02:16:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THAT MORE EXPENSIVE?
02:16:40PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
ABOUT THE SAME.
I WILL SAY THIS THAT MANUFACTURERS ARE GOING UP EVERYWHERE.
02:16:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABSOLUTELY.
AND REALLY MY POINT FOR THAT IS TO SAY AS WE LOOK AT THE
2026 BUDGET, I AM LOOKING FOR MORE MONEY FOR MAINTENANCE OF
TREE OF SO AS THAT IT DOESN'T HURT THE FIRE ENGINES.
I THINK IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, ALONG CAN CARS, BUT
CERTAINLY FOR OUR FIRE APPARATUS THAT I HAVE SEEN BOTH AT
SUPPLY AND AT CERTAIN STATIONS THAT I HAVE RODE WITH.
I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
02:17:13PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
WE ARE ALSO EDUCATING OUR PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT
TO LOOK IF SOMETHING LOOK UNSAFE.
02:17:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
QUITE FRANKLY, THEY DON'T NEED TO WORRY OF A
TREE WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO REACH SOMEONE IN DANGER.
THAT WAS KIND OF MY POINT.
I WANT TO FOCUS ON PROVIDING THE RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN THOSE
TREES, SO THANK YOU.
02:17:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:17:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION.
PEOPLE THINK OF FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND
WATER DEPARTMENT.
THEY DON'T KNOW THE COST OF EVERYTHING.
AND MAYBE SOMEHOW WE CAN PROJECT OR SHOW THEM WHAT A FIRE
ENGINE COSTS, AMBULANCE COSTS, WHAT AT THAT TAKES TO PRODUCE
WATER.
I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY DAY WHEN WE HEAR TALKING,
IT IS NOT EASY.
IT IS NOT EASY FOR YOU.
NOT EASY FOR ANY DEPARTMENT HEAD.
AND HAVEN'T EDUCATED THE PUBLIC AT ALL.
THE PUBLIC IS IN A FOG RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF MANY OTHER
THINGS, CERTAINLY THE STRESS OF MAYBE THE ECONOMY NOT GOING
THE WAY THEY LIKE IT TO GO.
ONE COUNTRY FIGHTING WITH ANOTHER COUNTRY.
OTHER ONE WANTS TO THROW A ROCK AT ANOTHER ONE.
THEY THINK IT WILL COME HERE.
I AM TELLING YOU WHAT I HEAR ON THE STREET.
THEY ARE WITH WHAT WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW.
AND WE HAVEN'T GIVEN ANY INDICATION OF CERTAIN THINGS HOW TO
PRODUCE WATER AND TAKE A BUS OUT THERE TO LOOK AT IT.
TAKE A BUS TO A TREATMENT PLANT TO SEE HOW THEY RECYCLE ALL
THE NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP BEFORE PUT UP
SOMEWHERE.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT IS NOT EXPLAINED TO THEM.
THE ENERGY OPERATION.
WHAT DOES THAT DO AND WHAT IT COSTS TO RUN.
MILLIONS SPENT ON JUST THREE AREAS -- JUST THOSE THREE
AREAS.
I GUARANTEE THE LAST FIVE OR SIX MONTHS WE COMMITTED $400
MILLION, $500 MILLION TO GET IT WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
THESE THINGS ARE DONE AND THE PUBLIC ONLY HEARS WHAT IS PUT
OUT.
AND WE ARE NOT PUTTING ANYTHING OUT.
NOT YOU BUT THE SYSTEM THAT WE WORK IN THAT WE DON'T EXPLAIN
TO THE PUBLIC, HOW, WHAT IT COSTS TO PAVE A STREET.
THEY DON'T HAVE AN IDEA, AND IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO
UNDERSTAND WHY WHERE HE DO THING.
I UNDERSTAND IT AND COLLEAGUES OF MINE AND CITY EMPLOYEES
UNDERSTAND IT.
AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BECAUSE MAYBE WE CAN'T PUT IT OUT.
02:19:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS A GOOD SUGGESTION FOR OUR MEDIA
AND COMMUNICATION GROUP.
SINCE WE ARE GOING IN BUDGET SEASON.
TALKING OF THESE BUDGETARY ISSUES.
02:19:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL CLOSE OUT THE CONVERSATION BY
SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION AND WHAT YOU
PRESENTED.
ONE THING -- I WOULD LOVE TO START HAVING THIS IN THE
DIALOGUE A FIRE STATION 1.
SUPPORT YOUR AGENDA DOING THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE AND MOVING
STAFF OUT.
EXPANDING THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF EXPANDED DOWNTOWN AREA AND
NEEDS THAT INCLUDED OUR DIALOGUE AND FUTURE DISCUSSIONS AS
WE GO THROUGH BUDGETING AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THIS
DONE.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND DOING THE PRESENTATION TODAY,
CHIEF.
APPRECIATE IT.
02:20:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOW DO YOU HAVE IT BUILT?
02:20:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
'60s AND '70s.
02:20:38PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
1978.
02:20:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT IS ALMOST 50 YEARS.
02:20:44PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I HAVE SOME 58.
02:20:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND.
02:20:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
02:20:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FROM 75.
02:20:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ASKED FOR ONE ITEM.
ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE MASTER PLAN?
02:21:05PM >> I DO.
02:21:05PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL VIERA AND MR. CHAIR.
NICK STOCCO, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS UNION.
I WILL USE THE ELMO, IF I MAY.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE CAME TO COUNCIL WITH IN MARCH 16, 2023.
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE OF WHAT THE MOTION WAS THAT WAS
MADE IN 2021 TO REMEDY WAIT TIMES FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
WE HAD A SIDE DISCUSSION OF THE MONETARY PATH.
HE HEARD THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES TO BUILD A MONETARY BRIDGE
TO MEET THE MASTER SAFETY PLAN.
WANT TO GO AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS.
WE ARE MAKING MOTIONS AN HAVING THESE SAME CONTINUOUS
CONVERSATIONS ON THE SAME ITEMS.
I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THAT IS WHAT ORIGINALLY THE MOTION
WAS FROM '20-'21.
NEXT ON RESPONSE TIMES.
THIS IS FACT.
AND I DO WANT TO THANK THE CHIEF AND BOTH CHIEFS FOR COMING
UP HERE AND PRESENTING AND EXTREMELY BUSY AND TAKING TIME
OUT OF THEIR DAY.
THEY MENTIONED A FOUR-MINUTE RESPONSE TIME.
SO IF WE ARE LOOKING AT 13 MINUTES OR 9 MINUTES IN BETWEEN
11 MINUTES, WE ARE CURRENTLY NOMINATING BY THREE TIMES AS
MUCH AS THAT.
OUR NEIGHBORING DEPARTMENTS, OUR GOVERNING AGENCY WHETHER
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THEY ARE AVERAGING EIGHT MINUTES.
MORE DENSE AREA, GEOGRAPHICAL.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT FOUR MINUTES IS THE RESPONSE TIME
IN 1710.
AND OUTLINES FROM THE PROCESSES.
AND I CAN PROVIDE COPIES OF THESE -- ALL OF THESE TO YOU BY
E-MAIL.
MASTER PLAN THAT WAS DONE BY THE UNION, WHEN WE WERE
BRINGING THESE CONCERNS OF RESPONSE TIMES WAS 356 PAGES IN A
BOOK SENT TO ALL OF COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
THAT WAS THE BOOK THAT WE PRESENTED.
WE ARE WORKING ON A NEW ONE.
HEARD A MOTION FOR TWO TO OR THREE MONTHS AND CITY ATTORNEY
STAFF AND CARL BRODY.
WE HAVE THE INFORMATION.
PROVIDE THE SAME REPORT FOR FREE TO TAXPAYERS, THE COUNCIL
AND MAYOR'S OFFICE BASED ON SCIENCE PARTICULAR FACT DATA
DRIVEN AGAIN TO US BY THE CITY TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL FOR
FREE.
THAT SOURCE GIFT TO THE CITY JUST LIKE WE GIFT IT IN 2020.
THAT IS HOW THE MOTION STARTED IN 2021.
WE SEE THE MASTER PLAN FROM PARKS, AND WE CAN OUTLINE WHERE
EVERY BRANCH IN THE CITY ON EVERY TREE WILL REACH OVER
SIDEWALK WITH FIRE TRUCKS.
WE NEED TO CUT THEM DOWN.
THEY ARE BEATING DOWN FIRE TRUCKS APPEAR EVERY OTHER
ANYTHING RELATED TO PARKS IN 330 PAGES.
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROVIDED US WITH THEIR CAPITAL
FACILITIES.
JUST THEIR CAPITAL FACILITIES MASTER PLAN FROM 2019-2030.
THEY CAN TELL YOU WHERE THE MOP ROOM IS GOING TO BE IN 2029
IN THE STATION FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
AN ADDENDUM AND SUPPLEMENTAL APPROACH TO HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY'S MASTER PLAN, 70 PAGES.
ADDENDUM BECAUSE IT GETS UPDATED YEARLY.
THIS COUNCIL APPROVED $100,000, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, TO
HAVE ONE OF THESE DOCUMENTS PROVIDED TO YOU SO YOU CAN
BUDGET FOR IT APPROPRIATELY AND WE THANK THIS COUNCIL EACH
AND EVERY TIME DURING BUDGET SEASON TO APPROVE THE
ALLOTMENTS WE ARE ABLE TO USE.
WHAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT WERE LOOKING FOR IN
2021 AND WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR ARE CONCRETE FACTS,
BUT WHAT WE NEED WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, NEED IT IN THE NEXT
FIVE YEARS AND NEED IT IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
WE HEARD THAT QUESTION TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
FOR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WEREN'T HERE IN 2020, 2019
AND SO FORTH, THAT IS HOW THIS CONVERSATION STARTED.
WE ARE NOW 17 MEETINGS INTO OUR MASTER PLAN.
AS MUCH AS WE APPRECIATE THE UPDATE HOW WE GOT HERE AND THE
PROGRESS THAT WE MADE -- BECAUSE I THINK WE MADE PROGRESS.
NOT ONE PERSON THAT CAN DENY THAT.
THANK FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND CHIEF TRIPP AND HER STAFF
BECAUSE WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS.
LOOKING FOR ITS NEXT ONE YEAR, FIVE YEARS AND TEN YEARS.
MORE BRIDGE CUTOFFS.
WE COME HERE AND GET THAT ADVOCATED TO BE ABLE TO COME
THROUGH.
WE APPRECIATE OF THE K-BAR RANCH.
WE HAVE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS TO BE
ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITHIN THE NEXT ONE TO FIVE TO TEN
YEARS.
WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT TWO
MONTHS.
AND WE WILL PRESENT IT TO YOU ALL AT FREE AT NO COST.
02:26:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
02:26:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND DIRECT THIS TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA
BECAUSE THIS HAS GENERALLY BEEN YOUR -- YOUR ISSUE.
ARE WE GOING -- I AM GOING TO ASK THAT MR. STOCCO AND HIS
TEAM PRESENT PUBLICALLY.
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT TIME YOU WANT TO GET ON THE AGENDA.
02:26:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION.
02:26:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL LET YOU TALK TO HIM AND FIGURE IT OUT.
HE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT SOME TIME MAYBE IN NOVEMBER TO
MAKE IT IF WE ARE READY BECAUSE OUR SPACE GOES FAST.
02:26:57PM >> I WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE IFF TWO TO THREE YEARS
AGO AND PROVIDED ME A PRELIMINARY BREAKDOWN PER DISTRICT PER
BOX.
I WILL PUT THE GAS PEDAL ON THEM AND HOPEFULLY HAVE IT
WITHIN TWO MONTHS.
02:27:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE REALLY STILL NEED TO GET THROUGH BUDGET SO
IT IS OKAY, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER IS PROBABLY A FINE TIME.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT ON AGENDA SO WE DON'T STOP
THEY ABOUT IT.
I KNOW YOU WON'T BUT IF WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, I KNOW WE
WON'T.
02:27:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
02:27:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
02:27:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:27:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM NUMBER 90, A MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM
AGENDA.
02:27:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
02:27:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:27:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I NEED TWO DIFFERENT LAST NAMES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ITEM 79 IS REMOVED.
MOVE ON TO 91.
YES.
02:28:05PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
ITEM NUMBER 91 IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR AN APPLICATION FOR
DESIGN EXCEPTION.
AND THAT IS FOR DE1-75-22 FOR THE PROPERTY 3701 NORTH 52nd
STREET.
THE REQUEST FROM THE PETITIONER WHO IS ALSO THE PROPERTY
OWNER WAS TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACKS -- THE REAR YARD
SETBACKS FROM 15 FEET TO 6 INCHES ON THE REAR -- ON THE --
FOR THE PROPERTY.
FOR A SWIMMING POOL.
CITY STAFF REVIEWED THAT REQUEST TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS
ACCORDING TO THE CRITERIA IN CODE SECTION 27-60.
I HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU CITY COUNCIL A PACKAGE OF
INFORMATION.
FIRST BEING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE -- THE RULES OF PROCEDURE
FOR THIS HEARINGS AND PROVIDED A COPY OF CODE SECTION 27-61,
WHICH ARE GOVERNED, THE REVIEW HEARING PROCESS.
I ALSO PROVIDED A SAMPLE MOTION FOR THIS MATTER, AS
INDICATED IN CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION 27-16
SUBJECTION J-3.
CITY COUNCIL IS TASKED WITH CONDUCTING A DE NOVO REVIEW
HEARING WHICH MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL IS NOT TIED TO THE
EVIDENCE THAT WAS SUBMITTED STRICTLY AT THE TIME THE STAFF
MADE THE DECISION.
YOU WERE SITTING IN THE POSITION OF STAFF RIGHT NOW AT THIS
DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING.
YOU ARE ABLE TO ACCEPT NEW INFORMATION AND HEAR THE
TESTIMONY THAT IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
CITY STAFF IS PRESENT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY THEY DENIED THE
DECISION TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS FOR THIS PROPERTY TO HAVE A
SWIMMING POOL.
AFTER CITY COUNCIL HEARS ALL THE INFORMATION AND EVIDENCE
FOR THIS MATTER, CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WHO DENIED THE REQUEST TO REDUCE THE
SETBACKS FOR THIS PROPERTY OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE
DECISION THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREFORE APPROVE THE
REQUEST TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS FOR THIS PROPERTY.
AS I INDICATED I PROVIDED YOU A SAMPLE MOTION.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT I HAVE AN ERROR ON THE SAMPLE
MOTION.
SAMPLE MOTION LANGUAGE SAYS TO WAIVE THE SETBACK
REQUIREMENTS.
THAT IS NOT BEING ASKED FOR THE PETITIONER OR THE PROPERTY
OWNER.
THEY ARE ASKING TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS, NOT WAIVE THE
SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ERROR.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THE MATTER OVER TO CITY STAFF WILL
TELL YOU WHY THEY DENIED THIS REQUEST.
IT IS OUTLINED IN 27-06.
02:31:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE WE GET TO STAFF, ANY EX-PARTE
COMMUNICATION NEEDED IN THE FILE?
HEARING NONE.
STAFF.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TESTIFY IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING, STAND AND
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY CLERK.
[SWEARING IN]
02:31:52PM >> I HAVE A PRESENTATION ON FLASH DRIVE.
NOT SURE WHERE TO PUT THAT.
02:31:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NORMALLY SUBMITTED AHEAD OF TIME.
02:31:59PM >> THAT WAS SUBMITTED AHEAD OF TIME.
02:32:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF IT WAS SUBMITTED AHEAD OF TIME, OUR
TECH PEOPLE SHOULD BRING IT UP.
I ALSO HAVE PAPER SLIDES, IF NECESSARY.
02:32:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAND BY.
IF YOU PUT IT ON THE PROJECTOR, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY TURN
ON.
02:32:52PM >>WALDO CARBO:
OKAY.
MY NAME IS WALDO CARBO, PLANNING AND DESIGN, AN OPEN PLANNER
TWO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
TODAY, I WILL BE PRESENTING THE CASE IN DETERMINATION FROM
URBAN DESIGN REGARDING DE-1 25007 FOR SUBJECT PROPERTY 3701
NORTH 52nd STREET. THIS REQUEST INVOLVES DESIGN EXCEPTION
APPLICATION THAT WAS DENIED BY STAFF.
PROPOSAL FOR A 15-FOOT REAR SETBACK TO JUST SIX INCHES.
STRUCTURE INCLUDES AN UNPERMITTED ABOVEGROUND POOL AND DECK.
THESE ARE THE SECTIONS THAT WE USE TO MAKE OUR
DETERMINATION.
THE APPLICANT CONSTRUCTED AN UNPERMITTED POOL AND DECK
WITHIN ONLY SIX INCHES OF THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM THE 15-FOOT MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR
THE ABOVEGROUND POOL AND REDUCTION IN THE SETBACK OF 14 AND
A HALF FEET DOWN TO SIX INCHES.
THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE AREA -- THE PROPERTY BEING
DISCUSSED TODAY.
YOU CAN SEE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALL SINGLE-FAMILY
DWELLINGS.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THAT PROVIDES A VISUAL CONTEXT FOR THE
ENCROACHMENT AND CONDITIONS THAT LED TO THE CODE COMPLAINT.
THIS SAYS -- LOOKING NORTH OF THE PROPERTY FROM EAST 30th
AVENUE.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST -- FROM FIFTH -- NORTH 52nd STREET.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.
LOOKING WEST.
AND THIS SHOWS THE BOUNDARY SURVEY AND THE SITE PLAN THAT
WAS SUBMITTED FOR DESIGN EXCEPTION.
THIS SHOWS THE ELEVATION TAKEN IN NOVEMBER '23, WHICH WAS
PRIOR TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE POOL.
AND THESE NEXT PHOTOS ARE TAKEN FROM THE CODE COMPLAINT
SHOWING THE -- THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. THIS IS A CLOSE-UP OF
THIS LAST ONE HERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS PHOTO SHOWS HOW CLOSE THE DECK IS TO
THE FENCE AND THE ABUTTING ALLEY.
THIS POSES RISK TO THE PROPERTIES INCLUDING STRUCTURAL
INTEGRITY CONCERNS, INADEQUATE DRAINAGE AND COMPROMISED
PRIVACY.
THE APPLICANT HAS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE SUCH AS INSTALLING AN
IN-GROUND POOL THAT REQUIRES A SMALLER SETBACK AND PROVIDE
REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY WITHOUT NECESSITATING SUCH A
SIGNIFICANCE CAN ENCROACHMENT.
ZONING CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO MAINTAIN CHARACTER AND
ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT.
PROVING IT WILL CONTRADICT THESE GOALS AND SEPTEMBER A
PRECEDENT FOR SIMILAR NONCOMPLIANT STRUCTURES.
REDUCING THE SETBACKS TO SIX INCHES FROM THE 15-FOOT SETBACK
IS AN EXTREME DEVELOP NATION AND NOT THE MINIMUM NECESSARY.
THE RM-16 ZONING STANDARDS AND THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY URGE
COMPATIBILITY AND DESIGN.
THIS PROPOSAL UNDERMINES BY COMPROMISING PRIVACY AND
NEIGHBORHOOD AESTHETICS.
AND THE APPLICANT -- THE APPLICANT HAS NOT DEMONSTRATED
UNIQUE HARDSHIP AND WILL JUSTIFY THE SETBACK REDUCTION AND
THE REQUEST SEEMS TO BE BASED ON PERSONAL PREFERENCE RATHER
THAN NECESSITY.
IN CONCLUSION, THE REQUEST FAILS TO MEET THE NECESSARY
CRITERIA IN SECTION 27-06, NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND
CONTRADICTS CITY CODES AND OBJECTIVES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THIS
DENIAL OF THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
02:39:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:39:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
SO THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY REQUIRES THE 15-FOOT BACK YARD
QUARTERBACK?
02:39:09PM >>WALDO CARBO:
THAT'S CORRECT.
02:39:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SETBACK, ALSO
15 FEET IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY?
>WALDO CARBO: NO, GOVERNED BY THE GENERAL ZONING WHICH IS
TYPICAL THREE FOOT FROM THE REAR AND THREE FOOT FROM THE
SIDE.
02:39:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:39:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS.
02:39:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT AT ALL, SORRY.
02:39:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING THAT.
APPLICANT OR PETITIONER.
02:39:33PM >> HI, MY NAME IS CALIXTA RODRIGUEZ.
SORRY.
I AM KIND OF NERVOUS.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME.
SO I SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK BECAUSE MY PROPERTY, AS YOU SEE --
THE LAYOUT OF MY PROPERTY EVEN THOUGH IT IS -- MY NET
INTEREST IS ON THE 30th.
BUT ON 52nd.
SO -- SORRY.
IF -- IF YOU COME IN TO MY HOUSE, MY MAIN ENTRANCE ON 30th.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THEREFORE TO HAVE A POOL, YOU NEED TO HAVE
SEVEN FEET -- THE SIDES OR 15 ON THE BACK.
SO MY HOUSE IS KIND OF BACKWARDS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU UNDERSTAND ME.
SO THAT IS -- I DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE
WITH THE REGULATIONS FOR THE -- FOR THE POOL.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT IN COMPLIANCE, BUT HOWEVER,
THEY DON'T AGREE TO PROVIDE ME WITH THE DE-1 EXCEPTION
BECAUSE MY ONLY ONE THAT THE ENTRANCE IS ON THE ON SEPTEMBER
SIDE.
NOT ON 52nd.
IT IS -- IT IS NOT -- IT IS NOT MY FRONT.
MY LAYOUT IS -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN.
TIME SORRY, I AM SO NERVOUS.
02:41:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE DOING FINE.
02:41:20PM >> IF I AM GOING TO PUT THE POOL, I DON'T HAVE THE SPACE AND
I AM NOT GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, BECAUSE MY BACK WHICH IS
LEGALLY MY BACK IS MY SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
SO HE PUT THE -- THE SURVEY.
AND LEGALLY IN THE BACK, BUT ON THE SIDE OF HOUSE.
AND SO I -- I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I HAD TO BE -- -- IT WAS MY
BACK THE HOW LONG AND GET IN THIS MESS AND I APOLOGIZE
THOUGHT IT WAS MY SIDE BECAUSE IT WAS MY SIDE.
THAT IS THE REASON I PUT THE -- PUT APPROVAL TO SEE IF I CAN
GET THE EXEMPTION APPROVED.
BECAUSE HIGH HOUSE IS THE ONLY ONE IN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD
THAT HAS THAT ISSUE THAT IS NOT FACING THE 52nd STREET.
AND I ALSO HAVE -- THEY HAVE 15 FEET FROM MY NEIGHBORS.
SO I -- I DON'T SEE ANY KIND ISSUE WITH THE PRIVACY BECAUSE
WE ARE NOT THAT CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE 11 FEET BETWEEN MY NEIGHBOR AND MY -- AND
MY POOL OR MY HOUSE.
THAT IS THE REASON WHY OF THE APPEAL.
SORRY, I DON'T USE THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ALL USE, BUT I AM
NOT USED TO THIS.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME.
02:42:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE UNDERSTAND, YOU ARE DOING FINE.
OKAY, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:42:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SAYING, BUT EVEN IF WE
LOOKED AT 30th AS HER FRONT AND THAT WOULD BE A SIDE YARD,
FOR THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY, SEVEN FEET STIPULATE STILL THE
SIDE YARD SETBACK IN.
02:43:16PM >>WALDO CARBO:
YES, FOR THE CORNER SPECIFICALLY, YES.
SEVEN FOR THE SIDE AND THE CORNER.
02:43:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EITHER WAY, SHE IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE OF
EITHER THE THREE FEET FOR THE SEVEN FEET REGARDLESS OF HOW
FAR WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR
SIDE YARD.
WE STILL WOULD NEED TO BE -- EVEN IF WE WERE TO TREAT IT AS
A SIDE YARD INSTEAD OF A BACK YARD, SHE WOULDN'T COMPLY.
02:43:42PM >> I DO HAVE THE SEVEN FEET BETWEEN THE -- FROM WHERE THIS
IS --
02:43:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
02:43:49PM >> OKAY.
02:43:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME AND PROVIDE FURTHER
TESTIMONY.
COME TO THE PODIUM.
MICROPHONE IS HERE AND STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN.
02:43:58PM >> I DON'T --
02:43:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME FIRST.
02:44:01PM >> IS SORRY, CALIXTA RODRIGUEZ.
I DON'T HAVE THE 15 FEET FROM MY -- FROM MY PROPERTY TO THE
POOL.
BUT -- SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE 15 FOOT BECAUSE MY SIDE IS MY
BACK.
BUT I DO HAVE THE SEVEN FOOT FROM THE SIDE TO THE POOL.
I DO HAVE THOSE.
02:44:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THAT -- THAT IS NOT AN AREA WE
HAVE CONSENSUS ON.
STAFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BRING UP THE SURVEY.
02:44:37PM >> I CAN, BUT TECHNICALLY FROM THE --
02:44:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COME BACK UP.
02:44:42PM >>WALDO CARBO:
FROM THE CORNER -- WALDO CARBO, CITY OF
TAMPA, URBAN PLANNER TWO.
02:44:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THROW THE SURVEY ON THAT.
02:44:51PM >>WALDO CARBO:
BEAR WITH ME HERE.
THAT IS OUT OF ORDER.
OKAY.
SO -- AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, NORTH 52nd IS CONSIDERED THE
FRONT.
EAST 30th WOULD BE THE CORNER.
AND TECHNICALLY, SHE DOES HAVE THE SEVEN FEET FROM THE
CORNER YARD, BUT THAT WAS NEVER THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE WAS THE REAR.
AND EVEN IF YOU TURNED IT SIDEWAYS, YOU STILL WON'T HAVE IT
FROM --
02:45:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO FOR THE APPLICANT'S POINT OF VIEW, CAN
YOU SHOW WHERE THE SURVEY LINES ARE FOR THE BACK YARD AND
THE DISTANCE, BECAUSE WHAT SHE WAS SAYING SHE HAD MORE
LENGTHY -- WOULD YOU LIKE TO POINT OUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
TO US?
02:46:11PM >> I MEAN -- WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THIS IS MY ENTRANCE,
RIGHT.
THIS IS MY SIDE OF THE HOUSE EVEN THOUGH FOR PURPOSES, IT IS
-- IT IS MY BACK.
02:46:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE UNDERSTAND THAT PARTICIPANT.
02:46:26PM >> I DO HAVE SEVEN FEET HERE.
MY ISSUE IS THAT I CANNOT BE ABLE TO HAVE THE POOL IF I HAVE
-- IF I HAVE TO TAKE -- OR IF I HAVE -- HAVE TO MOVE IT 15
FEET, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT SPACE IN THERE.
02:46:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO THE DIFFERENCE IS MAYBE -- IS WHEN WE
ARE DEFINING AS SIDE AND BACK YARD.
SO WHAT -- WHAT STAFF IS TELLING YOU WHAT THE DISTANCES ARE.
TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE.
YOU ARE SAYING THAT STAFF IS SAYING THAT YOUR BACK YARD IS
AGAINST THAT ALLEY.
AND EVEN THOUGH YOUR FRONT DOOR IS ONE PLACE AND YOUR BACK
DOOR IS AGAINST THE ALLEY AND BY CITY RULES, HAS TO BE SO
MANY FEET BY THAT BACK ALLEY LINE.
THAT IS THE CONTENTIOUS PART HERE IS THAT THAT YOUR PROPERTY
LINE ON THE ALLEY, RIGHT.
AND WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
02:47:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DON'T MOVE THAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION.
MY QUESTION FOR STAFF IS, THE APPLICANT SAID THAT -- THAT
THE POOL IS SEVEN FEET FROM 30th -- FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS SEVEN -- I AM ASKING, IS IT SEVEN
FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE DECK?
BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE POOL, BUT THE DECK THAT WOULD NEED TO
BE IN COMPLIANCE AS WELL.
02:47:43PM >>WALDO CARBO:
THAT'S CORRECT.
WHEN IT IS AN ABOVEGROUND POOL WELL A DECK WE COUNT FROM THE
EDGE OF THE DECK.
02:47:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW FAR FROM THE EDGE OF THE TECH FROM THE
PROPERTY LINE AT 30th.
02:47:54PM >>WALDO CARBO:
POOL FROM -- REAR FENCE.
LET'S SEE.
LOOKS -- HARD TO TELL FROM HERE LOOKING AT THE I BELIEVE
THAT IT IS -- IT IS -- SIX FEET.
IS THAT AN EIGHT?
HARD TO TELL FROM HERE.
IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE --
02:48:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE LAST WRITTEN LINE SAYS POOL IS FROM
RIGHT SIDE --
02:48:37PM >>WALDO CARBO:
38 FEET.
02:48:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
EITHER WAY IT IS NOT SEVEN FEET FROM THE BACK.
02:48:42PM >> IF YOU TURNED IT SIDEWAYS, IT WOULD CREATE MORE
COMPLICATIONS CHANGING THE ORIENTATION.
02:48:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
02:48:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU WOULD LIKE
TO ADD?
02:48:54PM >> NO.
02:48:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
SO ANY DISCUSSION?
ANYBODY -- WHAT IS THE ROLE OF COUNCIL.
02:49:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL TRY.
I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF DE
1-25-27-C, PROPERTY AT 3701 NORTH 52nd STREET BECAUSE THE
PETITIONER FAILED TO INTRODUCE COMPETENCE EVIDENCE OF CODE
27-290 SUBSECTIONS 1-B BASED ON THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED IN
CITY OF TAMPA CODE 27-06 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: THAT THE
EXCEPTION DOES NOT ACHIEVE THE GENERAL INTENSION OF THIS
CHAPTER.
AND THAT TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN -- THE EXEMPTION IS NOT
CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS IN PLACE OF THE
SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE SPECIFIC -- TO THE -- AND SUCH A REQUEST IS NOT CLEARLY
DEMONSTRATED THAT THE EXCEPTION IS WARRANTED DO YOU TO THE
UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE OF THE PROPERTY SUCH AS LOCATION OF
TREES, BUILDINGS, ETC. THAT IT -- IT JUST SIMPLY -- CAN'T
ROOM FOR A POOL.
AND THE PETITIONER CHOSE TO PUT ONE ANYWAY.
02:50:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:50:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY?
OKAY.
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:50:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM SORRY.
I WANTED TO FOR PURPOSE OF THE CLARITY OF THE RECORD,
SECTION 27-290.3-1-B?
02:50:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.
02:50:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
02:50:54PM >> NAY.
02:50:59PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH VIERA AND CARLSON VOTING NO.
02:51:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 47, 48 IS A COME BACK AFTER LUNCH.
02:51:09PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, CITY ATTORNEY.
SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM 47.
AND THIS IS -- NOT ONLY SUBSTITUTING THE RESOLUTION, NOT THE
UNDERLYING CHANGE ORDER WHICH IS ON FILE WITH THE CLERK'S
OFFICE.
NOW WE DID MAKE A CHANGE OF RESOLUTION.
THAT CHANGE -- CHANGES THE FUNDS FOR WHICH WE ARE PAYING THE
CONTRACTOR.
BUT WE DID PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION THAN
USUAL AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF ATTORNEY SHELBY.
WE PROVIDED A LINE THAT SAYS NO FUNDS SHALL BE USED FROM
THE CENTRAL TAMPA TREE TRUST FUND OR THE SOUTH TAMPA TREE
TRUST FUND FOR THAT CHANGE ORDER.
SO A LITTLE CLARIFICATION.
WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION WITH THE
CHANGE ORDER ON FILE FOR THE CLERK.
02:52:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY DISCUSSION?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:52:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
02:52:17PM >> SECOND.
02:52:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:52:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND I -- I MOVE TO REMOVE -- DO WE HAVE
ANOTHER?
I WAS GOING -- I MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 48 FROM THE
AGENDA.
02:52:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO REMOVE
ITEM 48.
SECOND?
02:52:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:52:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
OKAY.
02:52:48PM >> THANK YOU.
02:52:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE WE READY WITH THE FINANCE FOLKS?
MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.
02:53:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
CLOSE ENOUGH.
I WILL GET THROUGH IT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, AGAIN, COUNCIL, DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF
FINANCIAL OFFICER.
IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE, FROM THE BACK
THERE.
OH, I APOLOGIZE.
MY GLASSES DIDN'T EVEN SEE THESE.
I APOLOGIZE.
WAITING FOR ANOTHER ONE?
OKAY.
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AGAIN HERE TO DISCUSS THE MID-YEAR
OF THE CURRENT YEAR.
AS YOU KNOW, WE TYPICALLY DO THIS ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE
FISCAL YEAR EVERY YEAR GIVING COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC SOME
INSIGHT, MORE DETAILED INSIGHT OF JUST HOW WE ARE DOING.
AS YOU ALSO KNOW, IT IS A LITTLE LATER THAN USUAL IN YEAR.
SO INSTEAD OF PRESENTING YOU AND THE PUBLIC SOME
RATHER STALE INFORMATION FROM THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE MID-YEAR,
THIS PRESENTATION WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WILL PROVIDE
ALMOST-TO-THE-MINUTE INFORMATION ON WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH
THE CITY'S FINANCES.
INTERESTINGLY, THIS IS ABOUT THE CLOSEST IT HAS EVER BEEN TO
THE ANTICIPATED RECOMMENDATION OF THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT
FISCAL YEAR.
SO KIND OF AN CONFLUENCE OF EVENTS.
AND THEORETICALLY, THE PROJECTIONS SHOULD BE MORE ACCURATE.
OF COURSE AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS AS ALWAYS, IF MISS COPESKY HAS ANY QUESTIONS,
PLEASE REACH OUT US TO AND LET US KNOW.
AND AS WE DO EVERY YEAR, A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET
IN ITS ENTIRETY.
YOU KNOW CITY COUNCIL IS ALREADY VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH
THIS, BUT THERE MAY BE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE NOT,
AND IT DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF REFRESHER I
THINK FOR EVERYBODY.
SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, $1.8 BILLION.
AND AS ALWAYS, AND HE DON'T SEE THAT CHANGING, TWO LARGEST
COMPONENTS ARE THE ENTERPRISE AND THE GENERAL FUND.
THREE QUARTERS OF THE BUDGET IN ITS ENTIRETY.
DWELLING DOWN JUST A LITTLE DEEP INTO THOSE PARTICULAR
FUNDS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF THE CITY ACTIVITY
TAKES PLACE, OF COURSE.
ON THE LEFT THE GENERAL FUND OVER $650 MILLION.
ON THE RIGHT AT OVER $735 MILLION THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
AND YOU CAN FOLLOW THE GRAPHS.
PUBLIC SAFETY IS A VERY LARGE PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUND,
OF COURSE.
CENTRAL GOVERNMENT, THE BACK OFFICE FUNCTIONS, HUMAN
RESOURCES, REVENUE AND FINANCIALS, T&I.
THINGS THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE SEE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT KEEP
THE WHEELS OF GOVERNMENT TURNING AND, OF COURSE, PARKS AND
RECREATION, PUBLIC WORKS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THEN OVER ON THE RIGHT AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, THESE ARE
ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
THOSE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT WE ASK TO RUN QUOTE, UNQUOTE,
LIKE A BUSINESS.
MAKE IT QUOTE, UNQUOTE, PROFIT.
USING PROFITS FOR IMPROVEMENTS OR FUTURE PLANS IN CONTRAST
TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
AND AS WE ALWAYS DO AND PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL DO DIVE DEEPER
INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS ALWAYS A LARGE PORTION OF OUR
FOCUS AS COUNCIL KNOW.
THIS IS THE MONEY THANK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF FLEXIBILITY
IN SPENDING.
WE CALL IT THE GENERAL FUND.
OTHER REVENUES AND SPECIAL REVENUES AND ENTERPRISE REVENUE
FUNDS ARE RESTRICTED TO IT THE PURPOSE THAT YOU CAN SPEND
THAT FUNDING DOWN.
BECAUSE OF THE FLEXIBILITY, THE MOST VALUABLE DOLLARS IN THE
CITY BUDGET.
EVERY DOLLAR IS NOT REALLY EQUAL.
POLICE AND FIRE, OF COURSE, AS I STATED JUST A LITTLE WHILE
AGO AND AS YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES ARE VERY,
VERY LARGE PORTION OF THIS BUDGET, AND THEY ALSO TYPICALLY
GET A VERY, VERY LARGE PORTION OF THE RESIDENTS AND
GOVERNMENT'S FOCUS.
AND FUNDED -- THE GENERAL FUND IS ALSO FUNDED BY PROPERTY
TAXES.
OF COURSE, PROPERTY TAXES WITH A LOT OF FOCUS.
A LOT OF -- LARGEST SINGLE REVENUE SOURCE IN THE CITY.
LARGEST SINGLE REVENUE SOURCE.
AND WE GIVE IT A LOT OF TIME AND ATTENTION BECAUSE IT
TYPICALLY GETS A LOT OF ATTENTION.
YOU SEE IT HERE ALMOST $653 MILLION.
SO HOW IS THE GENERAL FUND DOING THIS YEAR?
DOING NOT BAD.
DOING NOT BAD.
BUT THE FINANCE PEOPLE IN MY SHOP WILL CALL IT A VERY GOOD
GLIDE PATH AS WE APPROACH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY.
THE GOOD NEWS IS PROPERTY TAX REVENUES ARE JUST ABOUT RIGHT
ON TARGET.
LITTLE BIT MORE.
COUPLE OF MILLION.
WE WILL TAKE IT.
WHAT WE REALLY LOOK FOR EVERY SINGLE YEAR EVEN EARLIER WERE
HOW TO MONITOR CLOSELY AND NOT COMING IN LESS THAN AMENDED.
AND THAT'S REALLY CASE WITH ALL THE MAJOR REVENUES.
MAJOR REVENUE IN A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN AMENDED AND OF
COURSE THAT HURTS.
THIS IS A VERY, VERY GOOD SIGN.
AS COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC KNOW, GOING FORWARD ON THESE
SLIDE, IF YOU SEE A GREEN SLOT, IT IS BETTER THAN WE AMENDED
AND IT WILL BE VERY OBVIOUS VERY SOON.
WHEN YOU SEE A RED DOT, IT IS WORSE OR PROJECTED IT WILL BE
WORSE THAN ANTICIPATED.
SO YOU HAVE LESS THAN A 1% VARIANCE THAT IS VERY, VERY
TIGHT.
AT LEAST NOT GOING DOWN IN LIGHT OF THE HURRICANE AND DAMAGE
ACTIVITIES THAT WE RECENTLY FACED.
AND HERE IS AN UNFORTUNATE EXAMPLE OF MAJOR REVENUE GOING
DOWN.
GOING DOWN QUITE A BIT COMPARED TO WHAT WE AMENDED AND THAT
IS UNFORTUNATE.
$4 MILLION.
$4 MILLION IS ENOUGH TO HURT.
THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THIS I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU ARE THESE
SALES TAX HOLIDAYS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO SURFACE IN THE
STATE.
NEW ONE BACK IN JANUARY.
IT WAS BACK TO SCHOOL.
AND WE HAVE FOUR -- COUNT THEM FOUR COMING BEFORE THE END OF
THIS FISCAL YEAR.
YOU SEE A DOWN TICK IN CONSUMER SPENDING AND CONSUMER
SENTIMENT AND TRANS RATES INTO SALES TAX REVENUE.
ONE OF THE MORE -- ONE OF THE MORALISTIC REVENUES OPPOSED TO
A NICE STEADY PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE WHIM OF THE CONSUMING PUBLIC.
03:01:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DENNIS, A PROJECTION FOR THE END OF THE
YEAR.
03:01:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, FOR THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, YES.
AND ALSO, UNFORTUNATELY, OUR ELECTRIC FRANCHISE FEES AND OUR
ELECTRIC UTILITY SERVICES TAXES ARE COLLECT COLLECTIVELY
COMING IN BELOW EXPECTATION.
AND THAT IS ABOUT $6 MILLION.
AGAIN THAT HURTS.
NOW WE ARE STILL IN A GOOD GLIDE PATH AS I SAID.
PICKED UP A LITTLE IN PROPERTY TAXES.
YOU WILL SEE SOME EXPENSE.
YOU WILL SEE EXPENSE PROJECTIONS THAT ARE LOWER IN BUDGET
AND YOU ADD UP THE $4 MILLION AND THE $6 MILLION AND THAT
STARTS TO HURT.
IRONICALLY TWO DIFFERENT REVENUES AND I THOUGHT SPLITTING
THEM UP.
TWO DIFFERENT REVENUES GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
THE ELECTRIC UTILITY TAXES.
TAXES THAT WE CHARGE CASH IN ARE CHARGED FOR ELECTRICITY IN
THE CITY BUT 10% IS GOING UP SLIGHTLY.
BUT THE FRANCHISE FEES ARE TAKING A NOSE DIVE AND THE
FRANCHISE FEES WHAT WE CHARGE BUSINESSES FOR USE OF
RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
RIGHT-OF-WAYS, WE GET A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THEM USING.
UNFORTUNATELY IT IS GOING DOWN MORE THAN IS AMENDED.
BECAUSE IT IS LINKED IF FEWER PRICES AND FUEL CHARGES.
WHAT IS LEADING TO THAT.
AS WE CONTINUE TO ANALYZE THE BUDGET THROUGH THE END OF THE
YEAR.
SEE IF WE ARE PICKING UP SAVINGS ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE.
COMMUNICATION SERVICES TAX.
THERE IS A LONG HISTORY WITH THIS TAX.
YOU HEARD MERE SAY IT BEFORE.
IT IS JUST ABOUT FLAT LINE ACROSS THE BOARD.
BUT WE WILL TAKE THAT AND THIS -- THIS TAX LOOKS LIKE IT WAS
GOING AWAY FOR YEARS AND, INDEED, A TAX QUITE VIGOROUSLY
THAT USED TO BRING IN DOUBLE THIS.
YOU GOT EXCEPTIONS AT THE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL AND AGAIN
REALLY, REALLY INVESTED IN LAND LINES THAT ARE GOING AWAY.
DON'T HAVE ONE ANY MORE, FOR INSTANCE.
WE WILL TAKE FLAT LINE AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT LOSING IT
COMPLETELY AND FOR A WHILE, IT LOOK LIKE WE WERE.
PERSONNEL COSTS.
AND LESS THAN ANTICIPATED BUT THE GOOD NEWS NOT MORE THAN
AMENDED.
AND WE WILL REALLY DON'T ANTICIPATE -- USE THE WORD
ANTICIPATED A LOT.
WE DON'T THINK THAT IT IS GOING TO BE -- WE DON'T THINK IT
WILL BE VARIABLE A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE AS WE TALKED ABOUT
BEFORE, THIS NEW OPEN GOV SOFTWARE HAVE MADE OUR PROJECTIONS
WHEN IT COMES TO PERSONNEL COSTS VERY, VERY ACCURATE.
YOU SEE THE DEVIATION BETWEEN WHAT WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO
LAND IN THE BUDGET OVER TIME GET SMALLER AND SMALLER AND
SMALLER AND GOULD BECAUSE IT MEMBERS IT IS MORE ACCURATE TO
BE COMING IN RIGHT ONLY TARGET.
03:04:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DENNIS, CAN YOU PAUSE FOR A MOMENT.
03:04:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
2019-2025, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WE ADD?
03:04:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
2019-2025.
LET ME SEE IF I GOT THAT IN MY NOTES.
CAN I CIRCLE BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
GOT IT YEAR BY YEAR.
DON'T HAVE IT CUMULATIVELY AND HATE TO DO MATH ON FLIGHT.
03:04:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, NO.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
ROUGHLY 175 MILLION MORE ANNUALLY SINCE FY '19.
YEAH.
$180 MILLION MORE.
03:05:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, MA'AM, WE WILL CIRCLE BACK TO YOU.
ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS WATCHING THE SAME THING.
GOING CRAZY.
THANK YOU FOR THE PAUSE.
03:05:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
03:05:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WILL GET BACK TO US.
03:05:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
ABSOLUTELY.
03:05:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE PERSONNEL NUMBERS.
03:05:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
BIT OF GREAT NEWS, OPERATING COSTS ARE
COMING IN LESS THAN ANTICIPATED.
WE WILL TAKE THAT FOURISH MILLION DOLLARS.
THESE ARE PRIMARILY -- AGAIN THESE GENERAL FUNDS AND HEAVY
HITTERS AND PARK AND RECREATION AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
FIRE AND PARKS, IF SAVINGS THERE, DOMINO EFFECT ON THE FUND
WIDE PERSPECTIVE.
POLICE PENSION HAD A VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD INVESTMENT THAT
YEAR.
YOU SEE THAT PLAY OUT WITH REDUCTION OF EXPENSE ASSOCIATED
WITH THAT FROM UNDER 40 TO ABOUT 37.5 MILLION DOLLARS.
30 PLUS PERCENT ANNUAL INVESTMENT RETURN WILL DO THAT FOR
YOU.
SO WE ARE DOING VERY, VERY GOOD.
VERY, VERY WELL.
03:06:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL NEED TO HAVE THAT FUND AND INVESTMENT
FOR PRIVATE MONEY.
03:06:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IN RETROSPECT.
THEY HAVE BEEN WIDELY SUCCESSFUL IN 40-ODD OR 50-YEAR
PERIOD.
WHEN THEY GO DOWN, THEY GO DOWN.
WHEN THEY GO UP, THEY REALLY GO UP AND AN AGGRESSIVE
INVESTMENT --
03:06:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MICROPHONE.
03:06:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PEOPLE ARE ONLY THE [OFF MIKE]
03:07:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME JAY BOWEN WHO IS
VERY, VERY SMART.
THEY CALL HIM ORACLE OF TAMPA.
03:07:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
UNBELIEVABLE THAT GUY.
03:07:11PM >> FANTASTIC.
03:07:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
03:07:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
NOT AT ALL.
JUST A LITTLE BIT PROJECTIONS ON THE GE MENTION.
LESS INVESTMENT PHILOSOPHY BUT A VERY, VERY GOOD YEAR LAST
YEAR.
SO FROM A STATISTICAL SCALE PERSPECTIVE, THEY ARE RIGHT ON
TARGET AND WE WILL TAKE THAT.
I TRY TO HIGHLIGHT THIS EVERY TIME I GET UP TO CITY COUNCIL
AND EVERY TIME I GET UP IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC.
WE HAVE TWO WONDERFUL PENSION PROGRAMS HERE IN THE CITY.
WELL FUNDED, WELL MANAGED.
VERY, VERY SURE THEIR PEOPLE ARE MANAGING THE MONEY AND ON
BOARD.
I AM ON BOTH BOARD AND I DON'T INCLUDE MYSELF IN THAT
DESCRIPTION.
YOU HAVE SOME VERY PROACTIVE, SMART, SMART INDIVIDUALS
MANAGING -- MANAGING OUR PENSION MONEY.
AND, OF COURSE, THEY ARE REPRESENTED, THE PENSION WILL GO
ON, AND THIS IS GOING TO GO ON FOREVER AND TIME TO INVEST
AND WHAT I AM DOING IS PARROTING WHAT MR. BOWEN FROM THE
FIRE AND POLICE PENSION FUND SAY THAT LONG-TERM VIEW AND
SEEING IT PLAY OUT.
I WILL REMIND THE PUBLIC AND I KNOW COUNCIL KNOW THIS THAT
THE CITY HAS NEVER A PENSION HOLIDAY BASED ON ACTUARIAL
ANALYSIS.
THE CITY CONTRIBUTES EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO
EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND ONE OF THE REASONS OUR PENSION FUNDS
ARE SO WELL FUNDED.
AND AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE.
AGAIN LOOKING VERY GOOD AT THIS PECULIAR TIME OF YEAR.
YOU SEE THAT HE NICE CONSISTENT 23, 24%.
LAST YEAR I CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AND I SAID I DON'T THINK WE
WILL FINISH FISCAL '24 AT THAT 23% FIGURE.
WE ENDED UP DOING THAT, BUT, AGAIN, THAT WAS EARLIER IN THE
YEAR WITH LESS INFORMATION.
WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO COME IN AT 23% THIS YEAR, WHICH IS
VERY, VERY GOOD NEWS.
AND REGARDING THAT PATH.
I KNOW YOU HEARD IT BEFORE, BUT I THINK IT IS ALWAYS WORTH
REITERATING THAT CONSISTENCY IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR UNASSIGNED
FUND BALANCE IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE OUTSIDE LOOKING
AT OUR FINANCIAL PICTURE.
FIRST OF ALL, IT IS ABOVE POLICY AND SPEAKS TO OUR VERY,
VERY CONSERVATIVE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT HISTORICALLY AND WE
WILL LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT AS I ALWAYS TRY TO DO, THANK THIS
COUNCIL AND PAST COUNCIL FOR EMPHASIZING AND REALIZING IN MY
OPINION THE IMPORTANCE OF A VERY, VERY STRONG FUND BALANCE.
IT IS SERVING US WELL AS WE SPEAK IN TERMS OF FLOATING MONEY
WHILE WE WAIT FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT, FOLKS.
WE HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO MEET OUR SHORT-TERM NEEDS AND
DEPENDING ON WHEN WE GET THE FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.
WE CAN MEET OUR LONG-TERM NEEDS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THIS VERY
STRONG FUND BALANCE POSITION.
AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, WE ARE BREATHING VERY, INVESTIGATOR
HEAVY AIR WHEN IT COMES TO OUR PRORATION.
VERY, VERY STRONG.
YOU CAN HEAR THE OTHER SIDE OF CONE IN A FEW MINUTES BUT WE
ARE IN A VERY STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION AT THIS TIME.
MOVING TO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, AGAIN THE LARGEST SINGLE
CHUNK.
JUST A LITTLE OVER -- JUST A LITTLE UNDER $70 MILLION.
EXPECTED AS A BUSINESS AND EXPECTED TO MAKE A PROFIT.
I THINK -- I WILL SPEAK A LITTLE MORE TO THIS IN JUST A
MOMENT.
I THINK WITH THE RATE PLANS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, INCLUDING
NOW THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE VERY, VERY FIRM AND
STRUCTURALLY VERY SOUND FOR THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE AND THE
CHALLENGES WE MAY FACE.
STARTING WITH THE PARKING DEPARTMENT.
THEY CONTINUE TO DO WELL AND REVENUES ARE UP, AND THEY ARE
HOLDING THE LINE ON EXPENSES.
AGAIN, NEW PARKING RATES WENT INTO EFFECT INTO LATE '21.
AND WE ARE SEEING THE BENEFITS OF THAT.
AND THE FEE GOES UP 3% EACH YEAR AND, AGAIN, WE TRY TO
EXPAND OUR PHILOSOPHY OF FEES AND CHARGES, SO WE DON'T GET
BEHIND THE 8-BALL AND WE HAVE DONE IT IN PAST AND WATER,
WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE ARE GREAT EXAMPLES THAT INDEX FEE
SCHEDULE GOING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.
WE PROJECT THEY WILL LOSS LESS THAN THE FUND BALANCE THAN
PLANNED AND IT IS PLANNED THEY WILL USE SOME FUND BALANCE,
WHILE, AGAIN, YOU SEE THE DEBT SERVICE IN THE CAPITAL
PROJECT EXPENSES.
STILL IN LINE.
$11 MILLION IN CIP PROJECTS.
INCH STARK CONTRAST TO LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, THE SOLID
WASTE DEPARTMENT IS DOING VERY, VERY WELL.
AND, OF COURSE, AS WE AND COUNCIL PLANNED WITH THAT FIRST
YEAR OF A FIVE-YEAR RATE SCHEDULE THAT WE IMPLEMENTED.
YOU SEE IT IS PAYING OFF.
THEY ARE USING SUBSTANTIALLY LESS FUND BALANCE THAN AMENDED.
THEY ARE GOING TO END THE YEAR VERY HAVE VERY STRONG TO THE
BOTTOM LOWER RIGHT THERE.
EXPENSES ARE COMING IN LESS.
SO WE WILL TAKE THAT IN THE CAPITAL SPENDING AGAIN REMAINS
RIGHT ON TARGET.
SO CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCIL, A RECENT APPLICATION AND
CERTAINLY APPEARS TO BE -- ACTION, AND CERTAINLY APPEARS TO
BE PAYING OFF.
WASTEWATER JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A FUND BALANCE.
WE ANTICIPATE THEY ARE GOING TO USE THAN PLANNED, BUT,
AGAIN, FROM A SCALED PERSPECTIVE, MUCH ON TARGET, SHORT,
MEDIUM AND LONG-TERM PLANS SO FAR ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR
PROJECTIONS WERE AND WHAT OUR PROJECTION ALSO PROBABLY
CONTINUE TO BE AS WE LOOK AT FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCE FOR THE
PIPES PROGRAM.
VERY, VERY SIMILAR PICTURE AND MORE POSITIVE WITH WATER
COMING WITH 8 AHEAD.
WE ANTICIPATE THE YEAR IN THE LOWER RIGHT.
WATER BASE CHARGES COMING BETTER THAN EXPECTED, AND YOU SEE
A NICE REDUCTION IN WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE TO IT BE THEIR
EXPENSES.
AGAIN SO FAR FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER AND THEY ARE
JOINED AT THE HELP.
BOTH INTERNALLY AND FROM THE OUTSIDE FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE
ON TARGET IN DOING MORE.
AND HERE IS THE REMAINING BUDGET CALENDAR.
YOU SEE AGAIN IN JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS WE WILL BE COMING IN
WITH THE MAYOR'S BUDGET PRESENTATION.
YOU HAVE TWO WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED -- TWO WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED
SO FAR.
AND, OF COURSE, THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
LOOKING FORWARD TO A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS THE
BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '26.
AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THIS YEAR, DISCUSS THE CURRENT YEAR.
YOU KNOW -- LET ME CLOSE REAL QUICK AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN.
THANK YOU AS ALWAYS FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT
THIS INFORMATION.
AND NOW THE STORM CLOUDS.
NO PUN INTENDED.
IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY YEAR SINCE THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC, I COME
IN AND TELL COUNCIL, HERE WE ARE IN A STRONG POSITION.
BUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES.
WELL, WE ARE IN A STRONG POSITION, BUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES
AND THERE REALLY ARE.
YOU GOT A LAUGH A LITTLE ABOUT IT, BECAUSE SOME OF THE
GREATEST BUSINESS ECONOMICS AND INVESTMENT MINDS IN THE
UNITED STATES IF NOT THE WORLD SAY THIS IS THE MOST
UNCERTAIN ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY HAVE EVER
EXPERIENCED.
SO IT IS UNCERTAIN IS THE FUTURE.
BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM SOME THE GREAT
ECONOMIC AND INVESTMENT MINDS IN THE PLANET.
SO WE HAVE HEADWIND.
LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, TWO BACK-TO-BACK STORMS.
NOT TRYING TO FEARMONGER, BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS AND WE
HAVE A VERY GOOD FUND BALANCE FOR THAT.
YOU HAVE INFLATION APPEARING TO COOL, BUT WHAT IS ALSO
COOLING IS THE JOB -- THE EMPLOYMENT -- THE JOB MARKET AND
EMPLOYMENT SCENARIO AND A VERY PRECARIOUS BALANCE THAT THE
FEDERAL RESERVE TRIES TO RIDE THAT RAZOR'S EDGE RAIL.
NOT TOO HIGH, INFLATION, BUT NOT TOO GREAT OF A JOB MARKET.
SO EVERYBODY SHE IS THAT WILL REMAIN PRECARIOUS FOR SOME
TIME.
I ALREADY TALK CONSUMER SENTIMENT AND CONSUMER SPENDING.
YOU PROBABLY HEARD ME SAY IT BEFORE, CONSUMER SPENDING IN
THE UNITED STATES IS ALMOST THREE QUARTERS OF THE ENTIRE
ECONOMY.
WHEN CONSUMERS STOP SPENDING MONEY OR START SPENDING LESS
MONEY, THAT IS NOT A GOOD SIGN.
LAST QUARTER'S GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT FOR THE U.S. WAS DOWN
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS.
FROM WHAT I READ, I DON'T THINK IT IS FORESEEN TO GO DOWN IN
THE SECOND QUARTER WHICH IS THE UNOFFICIAL DEFINITION OF A
RECESSION, BUT THE ESTIMATES FOR GDP GROWTH CONTINUE TO
DECLINE.
THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE A SLOWING.
I THINK THAT IS THE DOOM AND GLOOM THAT HI WANT TO SHARE YOU
WITH TODAY.
THIS IS THE SHORT TERM, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER,
RIGHT.
HIGH ACTIVITY, VOLATILITY ASSOCIATED WITH RAINSTORMS.
OBVIOUSLY VOLATILITY ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANES.
YOU HAVE PARK AND RECREATION, POLICE AND FIRE AND WHAT THE
SUMMER -- WHAT HAPPENS OVER THE SUMMER WITH THOSE EXPENSES.
THANK YOU, AGAIN.
I ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND LITTLE WONKY.
03:18:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
START WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND WORK DOWN TO THE RIGHT
AND FINISH OFF YOU WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:18:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL.
THIS IS COMPREHENSIVE HEN SIEVE.
WANT TO THANK YOUR TEAM.
WE WENT THROUGH TWO HURRICANES.
AND IN THIS BUDGET YEAR WHERE WE ARE IS VERY IMPRESSIVE AND
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU E-MAIL THAT TO
OUR BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
03:18:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DID NOT, BUT I WILL.
03:18:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
ON MY LIST ALREADY BEFORE MR. SCAGLIONE WALKED IN THE ROOM.
I REITERATED THAT REPORT.
THEE NEED TO SEE A COPY OF THAT BEFORE THEIR NEXT MEETING.
03:19:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AND WE WILL MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB
SITE.
03:19:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY SECOND QUESTION SO FOLKS CAN LOOK AT IT.
MY MAIN QUESTION ABOUT THE PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES BUT THAT'S
WHAT I WILL LEAVE FOR NOW.
THANK YOU.
03:19:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:19:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ALWAYS A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
CONSUMER TAXES FLAT-LINED.
KNOW THAT WAS IN TREMENDOUS DECLINE BECAUSE OF CELL PHONES
AND THE LACK OF LAND LINES AND WHATNOT.
BUT AT LEAST FOR NOW, WE ARE NOT JUST HEMORRHAGING.
WE ARE NOT HEMORRHAGING BUT NOT RECEIVING THAT KIND OF
INCOME.
THE PERSONNEL CASTS ARE STAGGERING.
YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THE -- WE WENT THROUGH THE
RECESSION AND HAD THE MASS LAYOFFS.
BUT WE SLOWLY RECOVERED BUT WHAT A JUMP FROM PRECOVID 2019
NUMBERS UNTIL NOW.
NOT QUITE 200 MILLION, BUT $170 MILLION OR $180 MILLION.
AND TO COME BACK FROM -- DO WE NEED ALL THAT MANPOWER?
CAN WE FUNCTION AND HAVE THE SAME QUALITY SERVICES WITHOUT
HAVING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY.
ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS.
WE WANT TO BE COMPETITIVE AND OFFER GOOD SALARIES BUT NOT
CHEAP TO LIVE IN TAMPA, BUT THAT HUGE INCREASE.
THIS CAME UP WHEN THE MILLAGE PROPOSAL CAME UP TWO YEARS AGO
HOW THESE NUMBERS HAVE SHOT UP.
WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL GOING FORWARD BECAUSE WE ARE IN WILD
ECONOMIC TIMES.
EVERY DAY IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT YOU KNOW.
SEE HOW THE TARIFFS HAVE IMPACTED PEOPLE.
I HAVE SEEN IT PERSONALLY.
I HAVE SEEN IT ON A GLOBAL SCALE.
MIRACULOUSLY FROM THE MARKET TANKING THE STOCK MARKET.
BECAUSE THE TARIFF SITUATIONS, THE STOCK MARKET IS STRONG.
MARKED CHANGED NEXT WEEK.
WHATEVER THE NEW CELLS AND ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY AND WE ARE
IN A GOOD POSITION BECAUSE AND COUNCIL AND YOU AND YOUR
ENTIRE TEAM.
BUT, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS AROUND THE CORNER.
HIGH INTEREST RATES.
HOUSING PRICES ARE COOLING.
WAGES ARE NOT GOING UP.
THE COST OF GOODS ARE GOING UP AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GO
UP.
IF YOU SEE COUNTRY BY COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, PERCENTAGE -- 10%
TARIFF COULD BE A 25% TARIFF AND I HAVE SEEN THOSE DIRECTLY.
A LOT OF THINGS ARE BECOMING EVEN MORE UNAFFORDABLE.
I DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH OIL PRICES.
THAT IS ANOTHER -- IS IT GOING TO BE A $5 A GALLON SUMMER?
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT STILL, I LIKE TO PREPARE FOR THE WORSE, AND I KNOW DO
YOU.
AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE HURRICANES, THAT WAS QUITE
ABOVE.
AND WE HAVE FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.
WE ARE COVERED TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
AT THE SAME TIME, I HOPE FOR A -- FOR A VERY LONG -- MANY
YEARS OF -- AROUND THE CORNER, COULD BE FACING DISASTER.
UNPRECEDENTED DISASTER.
WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL WITH OUR MONEY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
BUT I ALWAYS LIKE PREPARE FOR THE WORSE, BECAUSE WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT TOMORROW BRINGS.
THANK YOU.
03:22:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:22:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE TO ECHO THE SAME THING MY TWO
COLLEAGUES SPOKE ABOUT.
STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS, THE ABILITY TO PUT IT LIKE IT IS AND
TELL THE FACTS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT TODAY, LIKE I SAID, NOT A HUMAN BEING IN
THE UNITED STATES HO IS NOT CURIOUS OR NERVOUS ABOUT
SOMETHING GOING ON.
EVERY DAY SOMETHING NEW.
EVERY DAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT BUT
NEVER DONE BEFORE MAYBE AND TARIFFS, 110%.
150% AND THEN 120% TO THE SAME INDIVIDUAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
IF IT IS THE FACTS AND TRYING TO SCARE SOMEBODY AND TELL
PEOPLE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
WE ARE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THIS COUNTRY, INDIVIDUALS
THAT LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE ACCEPT
RATED FROM REALITY.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS REALITY, WE DON'T ROW WHERE IT IS
ANYMORE.
YOU LOOK AT THOSE FACTORS, NO MATTER WHO THE PRESIDENT IS,
YOU GET NERVOUS.
NO MATTER THE PARTY, YOU GET NERVOUS.
THESE ARE THINGS GOING ON.
AND REMEMBER, WE ARE IN A REFLECTION THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT
US.
WE ARE TRYING TO SUPPORT THEM AS MUCH AS THEY SUPPORT US.
THOSE ARE OUR CITIZENS.
SO I THINK WE HAVE DONE A PRETTY GOOD YEOMAN'S JOB.
ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
AND LOOK FOR YOUR FINAL REPORT COMING UP AND THE BUDGET
BEING PRESENTED IN AUGUST.
03:23:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:24:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
COULD SOMEBODY PUT THE PRESENTATION BACK ON
PAGE --
03:24:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
APOLOGIZE, SIR.
03:24:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
PAGE 7.
CAN WE LOOK AT PAGE 7 PLEASE.
CAN WE PUT IT ON SCREEN.
WE SEE IT.
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC NOW.
03:24:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
OH, YOU CAN SEE IT?
03:24:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BACK UP TO PAGE 7.
03:24:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I AM HAVING TO SQUINT SO IF I PASS IT.
THANK YOU, SORRY.
03:24:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I GET A LOT IS WHAT --
WHAT IS THE CITY DOING WITH ALL THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY
TAXES.
THE ANSWER ON PAGE 7 IS, IF I READ IT CORRECTLY, IS THE
ADDITION IN THE LAST YEAR WAS $20 MILLION.
CORRECT?
03:25:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
BETWEEN WHICH YEARS?
03:25:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR.
ABOUT A $20 MILLION INCREASE.
03:25:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
03:25:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
PROPERTY TAXES WENT TO $50,000.
BECAUSE WHEN THEY MOVED IN THE PERSON WAS HOMESTEADED FOR 50
YEARS AGO.
AND THE TAX DIDN'T GO UP.
WE HAVEN'T RAISED THE AD VALOREM RATE AND HAVEN'T BEEN
RAISED IN TEN YEARS, BUT THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING UP.
BUT $20 MILLION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL BUDGET OF THE CITY AND WE GO BACK
TO PAGE 4.
IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 4, IT IS 20 MILLION IS A VERY SMALL --
20 MILLION IS RELATIVELY SMALL PART OF THE BUDGET AND THIS
IS A GOOD POINT TO TELL PEOPLE IS THE -- THE PUBLIC SAFETY
IS $401 MILLION.
AND THEN IF YOU -- ON PAGE 7, PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE $358
MILLION.
AND THAT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 89%.
POINT IS THAT PEOPLE SAY WHERE IS MY PROPERTY TAXES GOING.
PROPERTY TAXES ALL TOGETHER PAY 90% OF POLICE AND FIRE.
AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR PEOPLE, DAYS THEY THINK THAT
PROPERTY TAXES -- I GIVE THE MESSAGE AND YOU DID YOU TOO.
03:26:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
GOOD THAT YOU ARE PUTTING OUT.
03:26:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EVERYTHING ELSE IS PAID THROUGH THESE OTHER
PARTS.
ALSO COULD WE GO TO PAGE -- THE FUND BALANCE PAGE?
03:26:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
PAGE 15.
03:26:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
15.
YEAH, I AM A BROKEN RECORD ON THIS.
BUT WHEN PAM IORIO LEFT IN THE -- AFTER THE GREAT RECESSION
WAS OVER WHEN SHE LEFT.
WHEN SHE LEFT IN 2011, DURING THE GREAT RECESSION, SHE HAD
$150 MILLION HERE.
AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
WHEN GOT ON COUNCIL, YOU SEE WELL THE YEAR BEFORE I GOT ON
COUNCIL, $87 MILLION, $83 MILLION LEFT IN THE BALANCE.
USUALLY WHAT YOU DO SAVE MONEY IN THE GOOD TIMES AND SPEND
THE MONEY IN THE BAD TIME.
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE REVERSE, THEIR MONEY WAS RAIDED DURING
THE GOOD TIMES AND WE ON CITY COUNCIL, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT
THE CODE WAS COMING OR WHAT WAS COME BUG WE COULD SEE THE
BALANCE WAS TOO LOW.
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US TO INCREASE THAT.
BUT THE POINT IS WE JUST NOW GOT TO THE 2011 LEVEL WHICH IS
GOOD NEWS BUT BAD NEWS BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE HIGHER.
LAST THING IS, HOW COME -- SO MANY PEOPLE ASKING OF
STORMWATER WHERE THE STORMWATER IS GOING.
HOW COME THAT IS NOT BROKEN OUT LIKE IN PAGE 4 OR THE
ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS FOR STORMWATER.
HOW COME THEY ARE NOT SEPARATELY BROKEN OUT.
03:28:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THE SIMPLEST ANSWER TO THAT, STARTING
BETWEEN TOO DETAILED AND A MACRO PICTURE OF WHAT IS
HAPPENING WITH THE CITY.
03:28:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION?
03:28:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YOU ARE WELCOME TO BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
03:28:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HELPFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE ON EACH OF
THOSE FUNDS WHAT THE REVENUES ARE AND TO SEE IT OVER TIME
AND IDEALLY HOW THEY ARE APPLIED.
BUT JUST BROKE OUT OF THIS SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT.
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY ON THIS.
03:28:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MIRANDA ARE YOU GOOD?
03:28:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:

[ INAUDIBLE ] -- TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY COLLECTED IN AD
VALOREM DOES NOT PAY FOR FIRE AND POLICE.
03:29:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.
03:29:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING THAT OUT AND YOU
WILL SEE A MORE DETAILED COMPASSION OF THE REVENUES IN OUR
BUDGET PRESENTATION.
03:29:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:29:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY NOT ONLY
WOULD I LIKE IT FOR THIS YEAR BUT GOING FORWARD IN '26 TO
SEE --
03:29:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
SORRY, MA'AM.
STORMWATER?
03:29:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
STORMWATER FOR 2026.
03:29:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS.
03:29:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE ASKING RECENT NOW.
BUT WHEN THEY BRING AT THAT BACK FOR '26, WE WOULD LIKE TO
SEE IT.
03:29:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I RECOMMEND GOING BACK TO 2015 WHEN THE
SECOND ONE WAS PASSED TO SHOW HOW MUCH IT HAS BEEN AND WHERE
IT IS GOING.
03:29:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY QUESTION WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORKED AS A COUNCIL TO -- WITH
YOURSELF TO FIND THE EXTRA REVENUE FROM FY-24.
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THESE NUMBERS IN
THE MOVEMENT.
03:30:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT IS, MA'AM.
AND I HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT IF
YOU HAVE -- IF YOU HAVE TIME.
I CAN -- I CAN SUMMARIZE IT.
WE REVIEWED THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BY COUNCIL WITH THE MAYOR
WHAT WE ARE WAITING ON AND RECEIVED JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO
WAS PROPERTY TAX VALUE RUES FOR FISCAL YEAR '26.
WE ARE ANALYZING THAT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW AS
WERE AS WE CAN KNOW BEFORE WE COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR
A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT FUNDING.
AND, AGAIN, JUST TO -- STORMWATER FUNDING WAS RESURFACING,
PAVING, SIDEWALKS.
03:30:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHEN WOULD WE EXPECT TO GET THAT?
03:31:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
ALL DEPENDS ON WHEN QUICK ANALYZE THE
CERTIFIED PROPERTY VALUE AND GET TO THE MAYOR.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE IT WILL BE VERY LONG.
03:31:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, BECAUSE WE ALREADY ALLOCATED THAT.
THAT SHOULD BE IN THOSE BUCKETS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
03:31:19PM >> IT IS AND I THOUGHT I HAD BROUGHT AN ELMO.
03:31:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I WILL SHOW NEW YOUR COMPREHENSIVE --
03:31:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SKILL ONE -- I WILL ASK ONE MORE QUESTION.
WITH HOW SUCCESSFUL THIS WAS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GO
FORWARD AND DOING FOR FY '25.
JUST BE PREPARED THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AGAIN BECAUSE
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD EXERCISE AND IT REALLY HELPED TO
TALK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE HAVE LEFT AND WHERE IT
SHOULD GO.
03:32:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I AGREE.
03:32:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
FOR THE EXTRA FY '25.
03:32:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
BECAUSE THAT WAS '24.
03:32:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM TALKING OF '25.
03:32:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THE NORM GOING FORWARD.
03:32:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
03:32:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE.
STORMWATER IS A GOOD SEGUE TO NEXT AND THE FINANCE TEAM.
AND SPEAKING OF STORMWATER.
BRANDON.
99.
I -- WE HAVE 27 MINUTES.
03:32:40PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I WILL GO AHEAD --INTERIM DIRECTOR OF
MOBILITY, AND I WILL DO A UPDATE ON K-BAR RANCH.
THERE ARE APPROVED ROADWAY PLANS IN THE PLN.
ONE WEST DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THAT.
ONCE THAT IS DONE, THERE WILL GO TO A RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT.
AND IT IS A DEVELOPER LED.
SO THE TIMELINE IS A BIT UNCERTAIN SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE
WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS OF ANTICIPATING THAT GETTING
CONSTRUCTED.
HAPPY TO KEEP THAT DIALOGUE OPEN.
03:33:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS PLN?
03:33:18PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
AN INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION PLAN.
03:33:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY QUESTION A QUICK QUESTION?
03:33:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:33:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
PARDON MY VOICE, WHAT DEVELOPER?
03:33:32PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I THINK I KNOW BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH
YOU.
REAL QUICKLY ON OUR OPERATIONS DIVISIONS, STORMWATER
PROGRESS FOR THE MONTH OF MAY HAVE.
IT WAS -- WE DO HAVE A REPORT THAT WILL BE REVIEWING QUICKLY
AN HIGHLIGHTING THAT IS ON OUR WEB SITE TAMPA.GOV/MOBILITY.
BEFORE I GET INTO THE MEAT OF THAT, A COUPLE OF OTHER
STORMWATER ISSUES THAT I THOUGHT WILL BE OF ISSUE.
SUN BELT RENTALS FOR OUR TEMPORARY GENERATORS TO BRIDGE THE
GAP FOR -- BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE HAVE PERMANENT AGAIN
RATERS DESIGNED AND I BELIEVE SPIDER-MAN STALLED AT OUR PUMP
STATIONS.
WE ESPECIALLY THAT BEING A TWO-YEAR PROCESS BEFORE IT IS ALL
OF COMPLETE.
ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE ISSUED NOTICES TO PROCEED FOR THE IT HE
SIGN PORTION OF THE PERMANENT GENERATOR INSTALLATIONS.
ALSO WE ARE CONTINUING TO HAVE OUR STORMWATER OPERATIONS
CREW WORK SIX DAY AS WEEK.
LAST THING BEFORE GET INTO THE REPORT, I WANTED TO LET YOU
KNOW WE WAS AN ADDITIONAL DITCH GRADING CONTRACT THAT WE
ANTICIPATE BEING ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA ON JULY 1.
WE ARE STILL DOING DITCH GRADING BUT ADDITIONAL CAPACITY ON
TOP OF THOSE CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE MOBILIZED RECENTLY.
SO -- I WILL BE USING THE WOLF.
AND JUST HINT REAL QUICK HIGHLIGHTS ON THE MAY 2025
STORMWATER MAINTENANCE REPORT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE
INCREASED.
THAT IS NOT TERRIBLY SURPRISING GIVING THE WET CONDITIONS
THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR AND THE INCREASED FOCUS ON STORMWATER
MAINTENANCE.
CUMULATIVELY IN THE FIRST FIVE MONTHS OF 2025, WE HAD 2 50
ADDITIONAL CALLS OVER THAT SAME TIME PERIOD LAST YEAR.
I DO ANTICIPATE THE PERCENTAGE DELTA MONTH TO MONTH TO LEVEL
OUT SINCE IT WAS SO LAST YEAR AND SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.
BUT I DON'T SEE OR ANTICIPATE AS DRAMATIC AN INCREASE IN THE
REQUEST FOR SERVICE ON A MONTH FOR MONTH BASIS FOR THE
REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.
WE DID WORK AT 12 DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE LISTED ON
THE TOP OF THIS NEXT PAGE.
OUR DETAILED ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE ALSO ON THAT PAGE.
TWO THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU.
HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE, WE DID REMOVE 650-PLUS TONS OF DEBRIS
FROM OUR SYSTEM BETWEEN THE DITCHES, PIPES AND STREET
SWEEPING AND HALF OF THAT IT SIEVE.
ON TOP OF THAT, WE REMOVED OVER EIGHT TONS OF GARBAGE FROM
THE SYSTEM.
AND JUST A QUICK NOTE ON TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF WHAT IS IN YOUR
SURROUNDINGS.
AND CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE -- WANT TO DISCOURAGE
LITTERING AND ANY SORT OF DEBRIS GETTING IN THE SYSTEM TO
THE EXTENT PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PREVENT THAT.
WE HAVE A FEW PICTURES WITHIN THE REPORT AS WELL.
BEFORE AND AFTER WORK OPERATIONS.
I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT -- YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT AS I WAS
LOOKING A THIS THAT CAME TO MIND IS THAT WE DO PUT THESE
AFTER PICTURES IN THESE DITCH DITCHING OPERATIONS AS AFTER
THE FLOW LINE WAS ESTABLISHED SO BASICALLY AFTER WE CLEAN
OUT THE MUCK, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW WE DO
RECEDE AFTER THAT AND THE EXPECTATION THAT LOW LINE
REGISTRATION GROWTH HEMS WITH EROSION CONTROL, WALL WATER
QUALITY.
WE GO OUT AND MOW ON A 28-DAY CYCLE.
THERE WILL BE SOME VEGETATION THERE AND HELP WITH THE
PERFORMANCE OF THE SYSTEM OVERALL.
LIKEWISE DITCHING OPERATION ON ROME AVENUE AS WELL.
WE HAVE CONTINUED TO REPAIR STORMWATER CAVE-INS WITH IN
HOUSE AND CONTRACTOR HELP.
IN THE MONTH OF MAY, THERE ARE 45 CAVE-IN REPAIRS OF
STORMWATER CAVE-INS.
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS DISTINCT FROM THE WASTEWATER
CAVE-INS THAT THAT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING DILLIGENTLY ON AS
WELL.
TYPICALLY THAT INVOLVES A MORE COMPREHENSIVE DIAGNOSTIC, AND
WE ARE ABLE TO RESPOND TO ROUTINE POTHOLE PATCHING REQUESTS
IN 27 HOURS OR LESS.
CAVE-INS FIGURING OUT WHAT IS GOING ON A WITH THE PIPE,
FIXING THAT AND FILLING IN THE ROAD SURFACE ON TOP OF IT.
WE DID ALSO HAVE CREWS THAT DO SMALLER TO MID-SIZED
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
TEAMS WE DO SOME REPAIRS LIKE WHAT WE DID AT WYNWOOD.
PICTURE REPAIR OF AN INLAND TOP.
IF IT IS IN-KIND REPLACEMENT REPAIR SOMETHING THEY ARE
GENERALLY HANDLING ON THEIR OWN.
ENHANCEMENT TO THE SYSTEM AND ADDED TO THE DRAINAGE CAPACITY
AND MODIFYING IT.
THEY HAVE WORKED OFF OF PLANS THAT ARE SIGNED AND SEALED BY
ONE OF OUR SEVEN ENGINEERS WITHIN OUR STORMWATER ENGINEERING
DIVISION.
JUST A REAL QUICK HIGHLIGHT.
THEY DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT IS RELATED TO THE
STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT INCLUDES THINGS THAT MIGHT NOT THINK
OF LIKE FENCE REPAIR.
COUPLE OF THOSE IN THE MONTH OF MAY.
WE DO HAVE IT OVER COURSE OF THE CURRENT MONTH.
AYE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE WILL BE IN.
AND SOMETHING I ALSO DIDN'T MENTION WHERE WE HAVE BEEN
APPENDED TO THIS REPORT, WE HAD I THINK 30 PAGES OF REALLY
DETAILED DATA THAT SHOW WHERE WE WERE.
THE REFERENCE SYSTEM USED BY OUR WORK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM GOES
BACK TO ATLAS PAGE.
QUICKER TO NAVIGATE.
A COUPLE OF STEPS IF YOU WERE COMING AT IT, AND YOU WANT TO
SEE EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE.
MY INTENT IS TO REFINE THAT PROCESS AND THERE WILL BE SOME
ADMINISTRATIVELY -- SOME LABOR INVESTMENT ON THE FRONT END
OF OUR TEAM, OUR GIS TEAM TO GET THAT INTO A FORMAT THAT IS
A LITTLE USER-FRIENDLY.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THAT YOU IN FOR REFERENCE OF THOSE
THAT HAVE THE INTEREST IN TAKING A LOOK AT IT.
OF COURSE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF SPECIFIC LOCATIONS, WE
CAN HELP NAVIGATE YOU THROUGH THEM.
AS ALWAYS, WE DO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IF YOU HAVE A CONCERN
THAT WANT TO REPORT DIRECTLY TO OUR DEPARTMENT, OUR CUSTOMER
SERVICE LINE 813-274-3101, BUT USE THE TAMPACONNECT.COM
SYSTEM FOR INTAKE AS WELL.
WITH THAT SAID, WANTED TO JUST BLITZ THROUGH THAT.
KNOW THAT YOU ARE PRESSED FOR TIME.
BUT IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS, I AM HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM.
03:41:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, BRANDON FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE
REPORT.
AND I SAW COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA'S LIGHT BUT NOW IT IS OFF
AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:41:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE THE
LITERAL FIRST QUESTION IS WHERE IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LOVE THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE REPORT IS ON THE WEB
SITE.
AGAIN THAT WEB SITE IS.
03:41:42PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
TAMPA.GOV/MOBILITY.
AND A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN -- SCROLL DOWN.
WITHIN -- OUR PAVING REPORT IS NEXT TO IT AND SOME METRICS
ON THE PAGE.
03:41:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WONDERFUL.
I ASK THAT THERE IS SOME -- SOME LABOR HOURS NEEDED TO WORK
ON REVISING THAT AND REFINING THAT.
IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FUNDING NEEDED FOR THAT, JUST LET US
KNOW.
03:42:12PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
THANK YOU.
-- OUR GIS TEAM WILL HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT LEVEL OF EFFORT
IS REARED, BUT I DO THINK THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO REFINE
THAT AS WELL.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO PULL STORMWATER OPERATIONS PERSONNEL OFF
THE STREET TO DO THAT SORT OF THING.
03:42:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OF COURSE.
BUT IF YOU NEED IT, WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED POUR DESIRE SO THE
PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND MORE CLEARLY IF THAT IS A BARRIER AT
ALL, LET US KNOW.
03:42:41PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
THANK YOU.
03:42:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:42:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION.
I SEE THE E-MAIL THREADS OF YOU RESPONDING TO CONSTITUENTS
AND DO YOU A FANTASTIC JOB.
03:42:59PM >>BRIAN CAMPBELL:
THANK YOU.
03:43:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SPOKE TO SOMEBODY AND SAID THAT BRANDON
CAMPBELL IS DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB BECAUSE YOU PERSONALLY
RESPOND TO A CONSTITUENT.
I SPOKE TO A CONSTITUENT THIS MORNING.
PAM CANELLA.
I KNOW SHE HAS REQUESTED SERVICE IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT SHE IS WATCHING THE CREW GOES
OUT, CLEANING OUT AND DOING THE MAINTENANCE AND THEY ARE
MOVING A HUGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS.
SO WE HAVE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE ON OUR PLATE NOW.
AND PROBABLY FROM THE PAST.
BUT I MADE THE ANALOGY OF, YOU KNOW, IT IS REALLY ABOUT
MAINTENANCE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DIG UP EVERYTHING AND PUT A BRAND-NEW
SYSTEM EVERY TIME.
IT COMES TO MAINTENANCE.
FOR EXAMPLE FROM YOUR CAR REQUIRES MAINTENANCE AND IT BREAKS
DOWN YOU REPAIR THE CAR.
YOU DON'T BUY A BRAND-NEW CAR.
SHE SAID YOU WATCH IN CERTAIN AREAS WHO YOU THEY ARE AFTER
SOME OF THESE PRETTY TOUGH AFTERNOON STORMS THAT WE HAVE
BEEN RECEIVING IN THIS LAST MONTH OR SO.
AND SHE SAID SHE HAS SEEN A TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT.
THIS IS HER.
I DRIVE AROUND.
I TRY TO SEE WHAT GOES ON IN THE CITY.
NOT EVERYTHING IS PERFECT AND WE NEED TO DO A LOT OF WORK,
BUT THE AREAS THAT THE CITY HAS GONE IN AND DONE THAT
CLEANUP AND TAKEN OUT THAT DEBRIS, WHETHER IT IS DITCHES,
CULVERTS, YOU NAME IT.
I HAVE SEEN IMPROVEMENTS.
NOT EVERYONE HAS SEEN IT, BUT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, YOU
MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE.
YOU, YOUR TEAM.
AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ALREADY MENTIONED, IF YOU NEED MORE
MONEY, LET US KNOW.
WE WILL HAVE A DEDICATED FUND WITH THE ASSESSMENT AND WITH
THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
A MATTER IF I CAN IMPROVE AND INCREASE OUR MAINTENANCE, YOU
KNOW OUR PRODUCTIVITY THERE AND JUST REALLY MAKE A DENT AND
A DIFFERENCE BY KEEPING THE SYSTEM CLEAN, I AM ALL FOR IT.
BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT I HEARD IT NOT JUST FOR
HER ABOUT YOU MANY CON STITCHES AND YOU HAVE SEEN THE
E-MAILS AND PROVIDE GOOD CUSTOMERS SERVICE AND YOU
PERSONALLY ARE RESPONDING.
I SAYS A LOT.
A PERSON IN YOUR POSITION.
YOU ARE HIGHER UP, BUT YOU ARE TALKING DIRECTLY TO THE
CITIZENS.
AND OUR OFFICE APPRECIATES IT, BECAUSE AS MANY OF US DO, ALL
YOU HAVE DOUSE, WE GET INUNDATED CALLS FOR SERVICE AND
COMPLAINTS AND WHAT NOT.
SEE US ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
PEOPLE POST PICTURES AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU AND YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
03:45:36PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
THANK YOU.
03:45:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD,
BUT
YOU ONLY HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THIS POSITION FOR A COUPLE
WEEKS AND I HAVE SEEN A BIG DIFFERENCE IN COMMUNION CHASE.
JEFF DEBOSIER AND BRIAN, AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE.
AND PLACES IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT FLOODED FOR ALL FOR DIFFERENT
REASONS.
NO CONSISTENT REASONS.
THE ANSWER IS NOT -- WE HAVE AN ITEM IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS
THAT TALK ABOUT AREAS THAT USED TO BE DRAINAGE PITS OR ACT
AS DRAINAGE PITS.
WHAT DO WE DO WITH THOSE, AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE A GREAT
JOB COMMUNICATING BAD NEWS THAT THERE IS NO SHORT-TERM
SOLUTION.
AND TO THE MONEY ISSUE, A FEW FOLKS HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT WE
DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
WE DO HAVE THE MONEY.
AND I SAID THIS PUBLICLY AND TALKED TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF
ABOUT THIS.
WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE SOUTH TOWER PROJECT.
BY DON'T WANT TO GET IN A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, BUT
THAT PROJECT WILL NOT BE VERY EFFECTIVE AND THE PUBLIC
MEETING WAS A DISASTER.
EVEN THE FEW PEOPLE FOR IT THOUGHT THE PUBLIC MEETING WHAT
WAS DISASTER.
NEED TO POSTPONE THAT PROJECT FOR A YEAR OR TWO AND
REDIRECT.
$85 MILLION TO $100 MILLION PLUS.
IF WE TOOK 20 MILLION OR $40 MILLION OF IT TODAY AND
REALLOCATE IT TO THE MAINTENANCE AND ALL THESE PLACES, WE
COULD GET KIMMINS STILL TO DO THE CONTRACT.
THEY ARE EXCELLENT AT IT.
GET THEM TO REDIRECT AND GO DO THE -- WE COULD SAVE
THOUSANDS INSTEAD OF 11.
AND WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TOE SERIOUSLY DO THE MAINTENANCE
AND THE WORK.
OTHER THING IS, FEW YEARS AGO AT THE REQUEST FROM THE
REQUEST OF THE COMMUNITY.
DOUBLED THE FINES FOR PEOPLE BLOWING YARD WASTE IN THE
STREET AND INCLUDES BLOWING IT INTO THE DRAINAGE AREA.
NEIGHBOR THE OTHER DAY SAW SOMEBODY'S HOUSE FLOODED.
THEIR LANDSCAPING PEOPLE WERE PUSHING THE YARD WASTE INTO
THE DRAINAGE.
IT IS JUST CRAZY THIS IS STILL HAPPENING.
I THINK -- I THINK WE ASKED THIS BEFORE BUT IF YOU CAN WORK
IN COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION OF HOMEOWNERS AND EDUCATION
OF LANDSCAPING COMPANIES, BUT IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE THAT THAT
IS STILL HAPPENING.
AND PEOPLE ARE ALSO REPORTING THAT PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE
CITY ARE DOING IT.
BUT PEOPLE ARE GOING IN.
WHEN STORMS ARE HITTING, THEY SEE THESE DRAINAGE THINGS.
THEM PERSONALLY GO INTO RECORDING THEMSELVES PULLING TREES
AND BRANCHES, AND IT IS DANGEROUS, BUT WE -- YOU KNOW 2015
WHEN THE NEW TAX WAS PASSED.
A PROMISE THAT MAINTENANCE WOULD BE DONE EVERY THREE YEARS
AND MOST PLACES IN SOUTH TAMPA IT NEVER HAS BEEN DONE OR
DONE IN DECADES.
YOU ALL ARE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS BUT TEN YEARS OF NEGLECT
THAT WE ARE MAKING UP FOR.
AND IF WE REDIRECTED SOME MONEY, WE CAN DO IT QUICKLY.
AND ALSO IF WE TOLD PEOPLE DON'T POUR THE YARD WASTE INTO
THE DRAINAGE MAY HELP A LOT TOO.
03:48:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, THERE WERE CAMPBELL FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION AND FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE WITH STORMWATER.
I AM SURE YOU WILL TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF AMOUNT AND GET A
STREETCAR BUILT.
03:49:08PM >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
03:49:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE AN IOU ON ITEM 4 THAT MR. ROGERO
-- ITEMTH 4, THAT MR. ROGERO, YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION.
03:49:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
I HAVE HARD COPIES FOR YOU.
03:49:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU KILLED A COUPLE OF EXTRA TREES.
03:49:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, IF WE CAN TUT ON --
03:49:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE WOLF.
03:49:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THING ACCOMPLISHES EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL'S
INTENTION WAS.
AND THANK YOU, BUDGET OFFICE, FOR TURNING IT AROUND SO
QUICKLY.
YOU SEE AGAIN -- I AM SORRY.
03:50:01PM >> COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
03:50:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS PERFECT.
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS HOPING TO SEE FOR NOW, BUT I WILL
REITERATE MY PROMISE TO WORK WITH YOU, MISS COPESKY AND OUR
CRA TEAM TO CONTINUE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS THE 2026
BUDGET MOVES FORWARD.
03:50:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I NEED A MOTION TO TURN THE RESOLUTION.
03:50:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
03:50:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FOR THE UNITE ASHLEY PROJECT WITH
THE AMENDMENTS AS SOON AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ASKED FOR.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE OPPOSED.
03:50:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO REITERATE FOR ANYONE WATCHING,
MOVING MONEY AROUND.
IF YOU HAVE INPUT ON A PROJECT, LET TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE
KNOW.
03:50:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
LAST BUT DEFINITELY NOT LEAST, WE HAVE ITEM 100.
YES, MA'AM.
03:50:59PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
HELLO, HAGAR KOPESKY, BUDGET ANALYST.
I WILL TAKE A MOMENT AND SEE IF I CAN GET THIS.
THE REASON I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF CHARTER REVIEW
UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE.
I WILL GIVE IT ANOTHER SECOND.
SO SINCE THE LAST TIME THIS WAS PERFORMED, THERE HAVE BEEN
SOME THINGS THAT CHANGED.
THIS YEAR IN '25.
AND FROM THIS POINT FORWARD EVERY EIGHT YEARS, THERE WILL BE
A COMMISSION OF APPOINTED FOLKS FOR CHARTER REVIEW.
THAT COMMISSION IS COMPOSED OF NINE PEOPLE IN TOTAL.
SEVEN OF WHICH YOU WILL APPOINT.
AND TWO FROM THE MAYOR AND AS FAR AS THE ALTERNATES, ONE OF
THOSE COME FROM EACH THE MAYOR AND FROM THE COUNCIL.
NEW MEMBERS OF THE CRC CAN BE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CITY
EMPLOYEES.
AND EACH OF THE MEMBERS DO NEED TO BE A CITY -- CITY
RESIDENT AND ELECTOR.
COUPLE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.
VACANCIES, IF THEY DO OCCUR, HAVE TO BE FILLED WITHIN 30
DAYS IN THE SAME MANNER OF WHICH THE ORIGINAL APPOINTMENT
WAS DONE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS ARE DIFFERENT.
THIS TIME AROUND, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THIRD-PARTY LEGAL
COUNCIL.
AND WE WILL ALSO BE USING AN EXTERNAL FACILITATOR THROUGHOUT
THE PROCESS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE PARTICIPANTS DO NOT RECEIVE
COMPENSATION.
ALL RIGHT, SO, THERE IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL, AND I WANT TO LET
YOU KNOW THIS IS MOVING ALONG.
I THINK THIS MAY BE UNDERTAKEN TODAY AND INITIALLY WE NEED
TO DO THE CREATION OF THE CHARTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE BY
OFFERED NANCE.
PROBABLY NEXT -- LET'S CALL IT ONE TO TWO MONTHS, WE DO NEED
TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SELECTING THAT FACILITATOR
AND THE ATTORNEY. THIS GROUP WILL BEGIN THINKING OF
APPOINTMENTS THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE TO THE COMMISSION.
AND THEN REALLY THERE WILL BE MORE CALENDARIZATION OF
MEETINGS AND DURATION THAT WILL OCCUR, BUT BIG MILESTONES
STATE FOR WHEN WE WANT THE PRESENTATION OF THE ACTUAL REPORT
TO BE PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN SOMEWHERE ROUGHLY IN THE TIME FRAME OF Q4 2026,
THAT IS WHEN WE WILL NEED TO DO THE CREATION OF THE PROPOSED
BALLOT QUESTIONS.
AND THE BALLOT VOTED SEVERAL TO COINCIDE MARCH OF 2027.
NOW IN TERMS OF THE WORD "BUDGET."
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CLEAR IS WE HAVE DONE AN ESTIMATE
OF WHAT THEY WHICH THIS THE SERVICES COST WILL BE BETWEEN
BOTH THE ATTORNEY AND THE FACILITATOR.
THAT IS STILL ONGOING AS WE CONTINUE TO REFINE HOW MANY MEET
WILLING -- MEETINGS.
HOW LONG THE MEETINGS WILL BE.
WE WILL LET THE 2026 BUDGET PROGRESS AND MAKE EVERYBODY IN
THE COUNCIL AWARE, WE DID INCLUDE A $150,000 PLACE HOLDER TO
THEIR BUDGET.
SO IT WILL BE REFINED AND IN NO WAY IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT
THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE, OBVIOUSLY THAT WILL OCCUR.
03:54:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO BE CLEAR, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING, MYSELF
AND MR. SHELBY AND OUR BUDGET ANALYST MISS COPESKY ABOUT
THIS ITEM.
SHE HAS DONE A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE IN CHECKING WITH OTHER
MUNICIPALITIES, OTHER COUNTIES ON WHAT THEY SPENT.
TALKING ABOUT THESE TYPE OF PROCESSES.
GETTING DOLLAR FIGURES WHAT THE FACILITATOR COST.
ONE, I APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF WORK YOU HAVE DONE BEHIND
THE SCENES INVISIBLE TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AT THIS
POINT BRINGING IT FORWARD TO US FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
I DO -- I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.
AS SOON AS WE ARE DONE WITHIN THIS DISCUSSION, I DO HAVE THE
-- THE MOTION TO ESTABLISH THIS PROCESSES THAT I WILL HAND
THE GAVEL OFF, AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD FOR THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS AS SOON AS I SEE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
YOU WANT TO GO FIRST.
03:55:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REAL QUICK.
THANK YOU VERY.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THESE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSIONS.
I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILWOMAN GAVIN YEARS AGO AND SINCE I
HAVE BEEN HERE.
AND THAT GROUP IMPRESSIVE, AMAZING INDIVIDUALS.
AND THEY WORKED SO HARD.
I HEARD THE STORIES -- I REMEMBER THE DEBATES.
AND JUST A FANTASTIC GROUP.
AND GOT ELECTED TO CITY COUNCIL.
WILLIAM GROSSMAN JR., THE ORIGINAL.
I LIKE THAT WE HAVE THIS COMMISSION.
BECAUSE THERE ARE LIVELY DISCUSSION.
AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, DIFFERENCES IN OPINIONS AND IDEAS
AND WHAT NOT, AND THEN IT COMES -- IT GETS BROUGHT TO US.
AND, OF COURSE, IT GETS TO THE 2027 BALLOT, BUT, AGAIN, A
VERY IMPRESSIVE GROUP OF INDIVIDUAL AND A LOT OF THEM WENT
ON CONTINUE TO DO VERY GOOD THINGS.
THIS GROUP - COMING UP.
CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS HAVE BECOME BUSIER.
DEBATE IS MORE SPIRITED.
A LOT MORE FOLKS SHOW INTEREST IN GETTING APPOINTED THIS
COMMISSION.
THIS A BIG DEAL AND SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED EVERY FEW YEARS.
AND IT IS TRANSFORMATIVE TO -- TO THEIR ASSISTANCE AND WORK
AND IN THE CITIZENS OF THE FUTURE AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
THIS A BIG DEAL.
SAW $150,000 IN THE BUDGET ALLOCATED I THINK.
THAT IS WHAT YOU MENTIONED MOVING FORWARD AND THEN
FACILITATED THE ATTORNEY OUTSIDE AS I WAS LOOKING IN MAKING
OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:57:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVERY EIGHT YEARS BECAUSE THE LAST CHARTER
COMMISSION CHANGED FROM TEN TO EIGHT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:57:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO JUST SAY WHAT HAPPENED -- THAT
COMMISSION -- THAT COMMISSION WE HAD, COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON, WE HAD COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
COUNCIL.
MEMBER CITRO ON THERE.
I WAS IN THERE.
NEW AIRPORT CEO MICHAEL STEVENS WAS ON THERE.
OUR CITY ATTORNEY ANDREA ZELMAN WAS ON THERE.
MORRIS WAS ON THERE.
THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DOING WORK FOR THE CITY WAS PRETTY
AMAZE.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO A PLY FOR THIS TELLS THE
STORY.
I WORKED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER.
THAT IS WRITE GOT STARTED.
I APPLIED EITHER TO BE ON THE COMMISSION AND ALTERNATE AND
ONLY FOUR I'M WHO WANTED TO BE AN ALTERNATE AND THE OTHER
ALTERNATE THAT WAS CHOSEN WAS ORLANDO AND TWO PEOPLE DIDN'T
SHOW UP FOR TWO MEETINGS AND BOOM, WE ARE ON.
I SAY APPLY FOR THINGS.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN ALSO WANTED TO TALK TO YOU
VERY IMPORTANTLY ABOUT AREA AND ISSUE WE GOT STUCK WITH FOR
THE END.
I WANT YOU TO ENCOURAGE TO YOU WORK BACKWARD, BECAUSE
SHOWING THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD WORK WITH THE
CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE OTHER ISSUE IF I REMEMBER
DIRECTLY WAS GETTING THE WORDING OF THE QUESTIONS FOR THE
BATH BALLOT WAS TRICKY.
SO I MIGHT COORDINATE WITH BOTH OUR CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY
AND MISS ZELMAN TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TIME WILL BE
NECESSARY, AROUND THEN WORK BACKWARDS FROM THERE.
I THINK WORKING BACKWARDS IS 100% THE WAY TO GO.
WE REALLY STRUGGLED.
WE ALMOST DIDN'T MAKE IT.
03:59:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE HAS BEEN DEALING WITH THE FINANCIAL
SIDE OF IT.
I THINK SHE GIVES A LOT OF BACKGROUND BECAUSE IF WE WERE NOT
FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS.
BUT MR. SHELBY HAS BEEN WORKING ON THESE -- THESE TYPES OF
DETAILS AND I THINK THIS WILL BE -- I THINK THAT WILL BE
REALLY IMPORTANT AND MINDFUL TO THE STRUCTURE -- LEADERSHIP
STRUCTURE OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO -- YOU KNOW
WORKING BACKWARDS OF THAT PROCESS.
03:59:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN HIMSELF REACHED OUT
TO THE THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION THE DATES --
04:00:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF WE HAVE TO EXPERIMENT.
04:00:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON THAT
BECAUSE THAT IS THE THING THAT WE REALLY FELT WE WERE UNDER
THE GUN WITH THAT.
WE HAD 18 AMENDMENTS.
NERVERACKING.
04:00:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VOLUNTEER COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA FOR THE
INTERPRETATION OF THIS IN SPANISH, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE
SUPERVISOR WILL CHARGE US AND WE WILL SOLICIT YOUR FREE
LABOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
04:00:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHEN DO WE SUBMIT OUR NOMINEES.
04:00:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO BE DETERMINED.
04:00:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND
NOT UNTIL IT IS CREATED AND NOT CREATED UNTIL COUNCIL COMES
BACK TO BRING BACK A DRAFT ORDINANCE.
AT THAT POINT THE PROCESS WILL BE SPELLED OUT AND YOU WILL
BE ABLE TO BE HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND RAISE ISSUES
THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT ORDINANCE.
04:01:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AOL RATHER THAN LATER.
04:01:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL BE SEEKING A WAIVER TO APPOINT JOE
GRECO ON HERE.
JUST JOKING.
GOD BLESS JOE.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT ON HERE GOOD PEOPLE.
I APPOINTED MICHAEL STEVENS ON BE THERE A WONDERFUL PERSON.
DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THOUGHTS OF CHARTER.
CHANGE SOMETHING LIKE IT IS THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.
PLEASE, IT IS NOT.
THAT IS MY VIEW.
YOU WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
LOOKING FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
04:01:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:01:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU, ALL, FOR GOING THROUGH THIS AND
THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO FOR PUT ME ON THERE.
IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING, REWARDING CONVERSATION.
I GOT TO KNOW LYNN AND ALL THE OTHERS THAT WAY.
IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
WE NEED TO JUST REMEMBERING FROM PAST AND -- LYNN WAS OUR
SPOKESPERSON, SHE WENT AROUND AND SPOKE AT ALL THE LEAGUE OF
WOMEN VOTERS TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHAT WE VOTED ON.
WE NEED TO GIVE THEM CLEAR DIRECTION WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE OUGHT TO SIT DOWN AND
BUILD SOME CONSENSUS ON SOME IDEAS AND THEMES.
I REMEMBER ONE TIME -- ONE TIME I WAS DISCUSSING -- I DON'T
KNOW REMEMBER THE EXACT DETAIL AND DISCUSSING THE BALANCE OF
POWER BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND SUDDENLY, THE CITY ATTORNEY ROAR WHO WAS NOT SUPPOSE TO
BE INVOLVED CAME RUNNING DOWN AND SAID, YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY
THE STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
I SAID CITY COUNCIL ASKED US TO DO THAT.
HE SAID NO, THEY DIDN'T.
SAID HERE IS WHAT IT SAYS RIGHT THERE.
IT WAS IN OUR CONSTRUCTION BOOK.
WHATEVER DIRECTION WE WANT TO GIVE, IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
IF SOMEBODY POLITICALLY TRIES TO INTERVENE THAT WE HAVE --
THAT WE HAVE A SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN AS TO WHAT WE WANT THEM
TO LOOK AT AND WHAT DON'T -- NOT DETAILED ISSUES, BUT JUST
BIG THEMES THINGS WE WANT SO WE NEED TO SCHEDULE THAT AT
SOME POINT.
OTHER THING ABOUT RULES.
WE SPENT, LIKE, THE FIRST MEETING OR TWO DISCUSSING WHETHER
OR NOT WE WILL HAVE A CHAIR.
AND WHETHER WE WILL HAVE MAJORITY VOTE OR SUPERMAJORITY
VOTE.
AND THAT PROCESS SEEMED IN THE END VERY POLITICAL.
BUT THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T REASON IS A CHAIR, I THINK,
CAUSED US TO SLOW DOWN.
AND IT ALSO CAUSE IT TO BE -- THE VOTES TO BE BIASED WITHOUT
GOING INTO DETAILS.
BY HAVING A SUPERMAJORITY, CAUSED THE VOTES TO BE BIASED.
WE HAD THE MAJORITY VOTE, BUT WE COULDN'T ALWAYS GET
SUPERMAJORITY.
BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WAS POLITICAL.
I THINK ALL OF THAT -- ALL THOSE RULES SHOULD BE WORKED OUT
IN ADVANCE.
ONE THING WE CHANGED TO BRING AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY BECAUSE OF
THE INTERFERENCE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO IS NOT AT THE CITY
ANYMORE, BUT IT IS SEPARATE PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO GET
ADVICE ON.
AND THEN -- YEAH.
SO ANYWAY, THE -- JUST SO WE SET UP THE RULES IN ADVANCE.
I DON'T KNOW -- IN ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE REQUEST --
04:04:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A SUGGESTION ABOUT THAT.
IT WAS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION.
SO I AM GOING TO HAND THE GAVEL OVER TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I WILL START OFF WITH THE -- WITH THE LEGAL MOTION TO START
THIS PROCESS.
I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY WORK WITH THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT AND TO BRING COUNCIL A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT
CREATES A CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY COMMISSION PURSUANT TO
SECTION 10.10 OF THE CITY CHARTER FOR COUNCIL'S REVIEW AND
DISCUSSION ON AUGUST 29, 2025 UNDER STAFF REPORTS AN
UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
04:04:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN.
SORRY.
04:04:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ISN'T THAT FUNNY HOW IT GOES.
04:04:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ESCAPES DOWN THE HEAD.
04:04:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LOOK DOWN THE LINE, WHAT IS YOUR NAME.
04:04:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY COMMENT?
ANY OPPOSED?
AUGUST 29.
04:05:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AUGUST 29.
04:05:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE WILL LOOK AT THAT.
04:05:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DON'T HAVE AUGUST 29.
BUT AUGUST 28.
04:05:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS A TYPO SHELBY ANOTHER THING --
04:05:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AUGUST 28 DAY, IF MAYBE COUNCIL WILL GRAND
THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT ON THE 4th.
I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE 28th, YOU HAVE THAT FUTURE LAND USE
WORKSHOP THAT DAY.
IF YOU WANT TO GO PERHAPS LONG ON THE 28th YOU CAN, BUT YOU
WILL GO INTO A 5 O'CLOCK MEETING AND A LENGTHY ONE.
04:05:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO IT WITH A SPECIALLY CALLED WORKSHOP.
04:05:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO IT ON THE 7th.
THE 7th WOULD BE WITH THE FIRST REGULAR MEETING OF AUGUST.
04:05:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT ONE IS LONG TOO.
04:05:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONLY FOUR STAFF REPORTS.
04:06:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
7th WOULD BE FINE.
04:06:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOTION TO AMENDS IT TO AUGUST 7.
04:06:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN RESPECTFULLY, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER
THAT IS ENOUGH TIME TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TALK
OF ALL THE ISSUES TO BRING BACK SOMETHING FULLY FORMED TO
COUNCIL.
04:06:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE THE ONE THAT JUST SAID THAT TO US.
04:06:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOES NEED TO BE FULLY FORMED.
I THINK THE ISSUE THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID CLEARLY THAT
WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT.
04:06:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS JUST CREATING IT.
THIS MOTION -- THE MOTION IS I MOVE THE CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY TO WORK TO CREATE A DRAFT ORDINANCE OF THE CHARTER
REVIEW COMMISSION.
04:06:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
BUT I THINK ALL THE THINGS YOU WISH TO HAVE IN TERMS OF
GOVERNANCE.
04:06:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS THE CREATION OF IT.
I WILL HAVE A SECOND MOTION HERE IN A SECOND.
04:06:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.
04:06:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY MOTION TO AMENDS TO AUGUST 7.
04:07:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION BY CHAIR CLENDENIN
AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO OPINION
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
04:07:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT IS, WHAT IS THE SENTIMENT OF COUNCIL
-- AND WHAT YOU JUST FLARED COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A LOT OF ISSUES THE LAST CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION
DISCOVERED IN THE PROCESS INCLUDING ITS STRUCTURE OF THE --
OF THE REVIEW COMMISSION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A ADD-ON TO A WORKSHOP, HAVE A
SPECIAL WORKSHOP THAT IS JUST ABOUT CHARTER REVIEW?
04:07:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I -- OKAY.
I THINK THAT WE COULD JUST TALK ABOUT IT ON THE 7th.
04:07:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CAN TAKE THAT BACK.
04:07:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU WERE MAKING A MOTION.
BUT -- YES, I THINK WE TALK ABOUT IT ON THE 7th.
WE GET INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC ON THAT DAY.
04:07:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD EVERYBODY -- WHAT WE ARE SAYING THAT
PEOPLE WILL BE PREPARED TO HAVE THOSE IDEAS ON THE 7th TO
BRING THEM FORWARD.
04:08:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK WE COULD.
04:08:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A SEPARATE MOTION TO SAY WE WILL DISCUSS THE
RULES FOR THE COMMITTEE AND ALSO THE ISSUES.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ADD ADJACENT TO THE OTHER ITEM ON AUGUST
7, CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF THE RULES FOR THE COMMITTEE
AND ALSO A DISCUSSION OF GENERAL THEMES THAT WE WOULD LIKE
THE COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS.
04:08:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
04:08:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SECOND WITH AN AMENDMENT.
BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, I WOULD
LIKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS SPECIFICS ITEM ONLY DURING --
EITHER BEFORE SO PEOPLE DON'T TO TAKE THEIR THREE MINUTES OF
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD SPEAK SPECIFICALLY OF THIS WITH THEIR
SUGGESTIONS.
04:09:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PRIOR TO THIS MEETING YOU WOULD YOU HAVE
TO WAIVE THE RULES.
04:09:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
04:09:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON THAT DAY, AT THAT MEETING WAIVE THE
RULES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:09:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW THAT WE WILL
BE WAVING THE RULES OF THIS.
04:09:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MISS HURTAK, IF THEY SPEND IF THEY GET TO
IT AT 4:15 IN THE AFTERNOON.
04:09:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SOME PEOPLE WILL, SOME PEOPLE WON'T, BUT GIVE
THEM THE OPTION.
04:09:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WOULD YOU BE FORMING YOUR WHOLE DAY'S
AGENDA AROUND THAT.
04:09:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF FOLKS WANT TO ADD THAT, I DON'T MIND
ADDING THAT.
CHAPTER REVIEW MEETINGS WAS OPEN AND TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT.
UNFORTUNATELY THE PUBLIC DIDN'T COME VERY MUCH, ONLY TO A
COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
04:09:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T ADVERTISE
IT.
REMEMBER THAT?
04:09:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD -- THE LAST
ADMINISTRATION.
THEY WOULDN'T EVEN PUT IT ON FACEBOOK.
WE MADE A MOTION TO PUNT IT ON THE FACEBOOK FOR FREE AND
THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
ANYWAY, ADD THAT AS PART OF OUR RULES.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS, WHATEVER LIST WE COME WITH IN THE
7th NOT EXCLUSIVE -- JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
04:10:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYE HAVE IT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER.
VERY GOOD.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA ITEMS AND WE ARE ON TO NEW
BUSINESS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:10:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE -- I WOULD LIKE --
CANDY LOWE ASKED US TO GIVE A COMMENDATION THAT WILL BE
PRESENTED OFF-SITE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT CANDY LOWE WITH THE
20th ANNIVERSARY COMMENDATION.
04:11:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
04:11:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
THE OTHER ONE IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED.
I WILL PASS THIS DOWN TO YOU.
THERE IS A MOTION AND THEN A DESCRIPTION.
THE ISSUE THAT WE DISCUSSED SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE IN GENERAL
IS THAT AP WATER STREET IS ABOUT TO GO NORTH.
AN EVERYTHING TO THE WEST OF MERIDIAN WILL BE BUILT TO THE
HEIGHT OF THE LIMIT.
AND IT WILL BE UNDER THE CBD, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
CDB RULE IS THAT THE STAFF HANDLE IT IS, AND THE PROCESS
GOES FASTER.
CHANNEL DISTRICT TO THE EAST IS KIND OF A HODGEPODGE RIGHT
NOW.
BUT ORIGINALLY IT WAS SET TO BE A STEP-UP AND LINDA SAUL
CENA WORKED ON IT AND ANDY SCAGLIONE.
WITH SOME OF THE EXCEPTIONS SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ARE HIGH
AND SOME ARE LOW.
PEER HOUSE BUILT BY THE RELATED GROUP ARE FIVE STORIES.
I SAID YOU GUYS CAN BUY THIS BACK AND BUILD IT UP HIGHER.
THEY SAID YEAH, WE COULD.
THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT HIGH-RISES AND DENSITY IN HISTORIC
NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT THEY DON'T BE A HAVING IT IN PLACES WHERE IS THERE IS
ALREADY DENSITY.
GOT ON THE PHONE A COUPLE DAYS AGO WITH KEN SCAGLIONE AND
ABBYE FEELEY AND OUT IN A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE JULY 17 --
SORRY THE JULY UPDATE.
AND SO -- SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF
TO INCLUDE A TEXT MESSAGE OF THE JILL CYCLE THAT WILL ADD
THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM MERIDIAN TO CHANNELSIDE DRIVE INTO
IS THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND RETURN ON JULY 17 FOR
AN UPDATE.
04:12:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
04:12:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
04:13:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT WE STARTED THIS PROCESS.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
04:13:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
04:13:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES THANK YOU.
VERY QUICK IF I MAY, NOVEMBER 6 OF 2025 -- I WANT TO INVITE
-- VETERANS DAY SHORTLY AFTER THAT.
TWO SPECIAL GENTLEMEN THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAPPY TO
HEAR FROM.
THE FIRST BLACK SPECIAL FORCES BRIGADIER GENERAL IN THE
UNITED STATES MILITARY THAT LIVES IN NEW TAMPA IN CORY LAKE.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HIM COME AND SPEAK ON VETERANS DAY AS
WELL AS A GENTLEMAN THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE READ ABOUT, RAY, WHO
IS A 102-YEAR-OLD BUFFALO SOLDIER COMBAT VETERAN WHO LIVES
IN NEW COMPANY AND HAD THE BRONZE STAR AND TO HAVE THEM
SPEAK ON VETERANS DAY.
NOVEMBER 6.
04:13:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
04:14:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN ON AUGUST 28,
ADMINISTRATION, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE RETURN FOR PLANS FOR AN
UPDATED PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN FROM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND
TO REPORT ON PLANS INCLUDING COSTS AND TIMELINE TO BE DONE.
AND I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM A TIMELINE ON IT.
BUT A WRITTEN REPORT TO SEE IF WE CAN INCLUDE IT IN THE
BUDGET BY AUGUST 28 JUST FOR A WRITTEN REPORT.
04:14:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
04:14:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
LAST, COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE PASSED A SPECIAL NEEDS
INTERNSHIP PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO GIVE FOLKS WITH
SPECIAL NEEDS $15 AN HOUR.
I MADE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS ON THAT.
WE BUDGET ANYWHERE FROM $75,000 TO $100,000 ON THAT.
THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA HIRE PEOPLE WITH
SPELLINGS NEEDS TO WORK WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA, $15 AN
HOUR.
WE HAVE, I BELIEVE IT IS, TWO INTERNS UNDER THAT PROGRAM.
AND NOW THE -- NOW WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS IN
COUNCIL, BUT THE MOVE SEEMS TO BE TO LOOK TO GIVE OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS MONEY FOR THAT.
I -- I THINK THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DEPARTMENT SHOULD HAVE
PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AS INTERNS.
SO WE ARE HAVING A REPORT ON THIS ON JULY 31 OF THIS YEAR.
AND SO I HAVE A FORM HERE.
IT IS VERY SIMPLE.
KIND OF LIKE -- I WANT A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
LIKE WHEN YOU ARE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND YOU SEND SOMEBODY A
NOTE.
WILL YOU GO OUT WITH ME, YES OR NO.
WILL YOU ACCEPT A SPECIAL NEEDS INTERN?
DEPARTMENT, YES, NO.
IF NO, WHY.
THAT'S ALL.
I WANT EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO BE
ABLE TO ANSWER THIS, POLICE, FIRE, EVERYTHING.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, FOR SOME REASON IT CAN'T, LET'S KNOW.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO FULLY UTILIZE THE MONEY WE SPENT ON
THIS.
SO MY AMENDMENT TO THE JULY 31 PRESENTATION ON THAT IS TO
HAVE THIS, WHICH MY OFFICE WILL SEND IN WORD SO THAT EVERY
DEPARTMENT WILL EXECUTE AND FILL IT OUT TO BE ACCOMPANIED
WITH THAT PRESENTATION ON JULY 31.
AND MY OFFICE WILL ESSENTIAL THIS OUT.
04:16:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
04:16:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ISN'T THE ISSUE MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE SPECIAL NEEDS IS
SUCH A LARGE SPECTRUM AND THE COMMENDATIONS MAY BE --
04:16:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOOD QUESTION.
THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING IT.
WITHOUT CITING NAMES, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE PEOPLE WITH
AUTISM AND SO FORTH WORKING IN THEIR.
SOMETHING -- WE CAN HIRE MORE THAN TWO.
THAT IS MY POINT.
WE CAN DO BETTER THAN TWO.
IF YOU GIVE ME EIGHT, I WILL BE HAPPY AS A PIG AND YOU KNOW
WHY AND THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.
04:16:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:16:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THESE ARE FROM YOU.
SO EVERYBODY HAS TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE.
I -- I NOW -- I AM DOING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOTIONS.
SO MOTION ONE, REQUEST FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO
REMOVE -CPA 24-04, 24-05, AND 24-06 FROM THE JULY 1, 2025,
5:01 P.M. PUBLIC ADOPTION HEARINGS.
04:17:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
04:17:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
REQUEST FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING
AN OPTION TO FOR TA/CPA 24-04, 24-05, 24-06 A FORM OF NEVER
FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
04:17:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
SECONDED FROM MANISCALCO.
04:17:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
REQUEST FOR 24-18 AND 25-03 ON SEPTEMBER 25,
2025 AT 5 D 01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT PRO
PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK FOR THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR
ADVERTISING.
04:18:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
04:18:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
04:18:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
REQUEST FROM PLANNING COMMISSION, 25-11 FROM
THE JULY 25, 2025 PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED.
AYES ARE HAVE IT.
04:18:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
REQUEST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION TA-CPA 25-11
FOR JANUARY 29, 2026 AT 5:01 P.M.
AN DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE FOR THE FORM OF
NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING WILL YOU BE I CAN HEARING.
04:18:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
04:18:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NEXT, I -- WE POSTPONED THE STAFF
PRESENTATION ON THE LOWER PENINSULA WATER SHED PLAN PROJECT
FOR A DATE TO BE DETERMINED.
I HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF.
AND IT IS FILE NUMBER CM-24-99-64.
YOU DO NOT WANT ME TO READ THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE IT IS
VERY LONG.
STAFF REQUESTED A CONTINUE UNTIL THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED.
I MOTION AUGUST 7, 2025 FOR A IN-PERSON REPORT.
04:19:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
04:19:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
04:19:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MOTION TO HAVE STAFF
PROVIDE AN IN-PERSON PROGRESS REPORT ON THE TPD INBOUND
EVIDENCE CAPITAL FORENSIC.
SHOULD INCLUDE THE CAPITAL BUDGET AND SPENDING TO DATE BY
ASSET TYPE, LAND, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, CONSTRUCTION, ETC.
TWO, A VISUAL OF CURRENT SITE PLAN INCLUDING PARKING AND
STORAGE OF ANY VEHICLE TYPE.
THREE, BUILDING DESIGN WITH ROOM BY ROOM ASSESSMENT AND
SQUARE FOOTAGE ASSUMPTION.
FOUR, UPDATED CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE.
FIVE, A LIST OF POSITIONS THAT WILL REMOVE FROM TPD
HEADQUARTERS AND OTHER CURRENTLY OCCASIONS TO THE CUT SITE.
SIX, EXPECTED DATE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION INTENDS TO
INITIATE THE BID PROCESS.
AND SEVEN, COMPLETION DATE OF CONSTRUCTION.
PROGRESS REPORT ON AUGUST 7, 2025.
THIS DATE WAS SELECTED BETWEEN THE TWO BUDGET WORKSHOP
SESSIONS WHERE COUNCIL WILL BE DISCUSSING FISCAL YEAR '26
CAPITAL REQUESTS.
04:20:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
04:20:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE REASON -- THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT IS
THIS IS PEACE WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE ANYTHING
IF WE NEED TO PASS THIS.>>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THAT WORD.
04:20:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK WE NEED TO BE DOING THIS WITH EVERY
MAJOR PROJECT AND THAT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
04:21:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAS NEVER SET
WELL WITH ME.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
04:21:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE
LEGAL DEPARTMENT BRING A RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARINGS
FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SUSPENSION HEARINGS FOR SEPTEMBER 4,
2025 AT 1:30 HERE AT 15 E. KENNEDY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602,
THIRD FLOOR.
04:21:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU NEED TO REREAD THAT WITH A LITTLE MORE
EXCITEMENT.
04:21:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:21:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
[INAUDIBLE]
04:21:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU ARE NOT EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THEIR DEPARTMENT THAT I WANT TO MAKE
A CHANGE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HONOR THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN
GWEN HENDERSON AT PERRY HARVEY PARK TO NAME SOMETHING AFTER
HER.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN FUNDED YET, I UNDERSTAND, BUT SHE WAS VERY
MUCH INVOLVED IN THAT.
04:22:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
DISCUSSION?
04:22:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, FRED AMERICANS WAS HERE TALKING
ABOUT THAT.
I SPOKE TO HIM A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND I LET HIM KNOW AS
CRA TWO WEEK AGO, I MADE THAT -- SUPPORTED IT.
MADE THE MOTION TO DIRECTOR McCRAY ABOUT EXPLORING WITHIN
THAT CRA FAR ARE YOU KNOW, DOING AN AMPHITHEATRE AND THIS IS
PERFECT.
I TOTALLY SUPPORT NAMING IT -- THAT WE NAME IT AFTER
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:22:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:22:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE WE SHOULD DO IT AND WE SHOULD FOLLOW
OUR PROCEDURES WHICH IS FILLING OUT A FORM.
I MEAN, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO --
04:22:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT I WANT TO DO.
04:22:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK IT IS A FINE SENTIMENT AND I AGREE
WITH IT.
BUT WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE MAKE --
04:23:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK SO JUST KNOW IF THIS WAS
CONSTRUCTED, THIS IS THE INTENT OF IT.
04:23:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE TWO MORE OF THE SAME POINT.
04:23:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE INTENT AND WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH
THE PROCESS.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:23:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO SEE AND THIS MAY REQUIRE A WAIVER OF
THE RULES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT ALSO STREET RENAMING.
MAYBE WHERE BLACK ENGLISH IS.
MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN CARVER CITY WHERE HER FAMILY GREW UP.
AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
WE NEED TO HONOR THE HELL OUT OF HER.
04:23:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THIS
INDIVIDUAL --
04:23:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE TO VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
04:23:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NEXT -- TWO BUILDINGS OF THE LIFE OF WEST
TAMPA AND I IMAGINE THAT THE OWNERS SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND
THEY -- ABOUT A BLOCK NORTH OF COLUMBUS DRIVE.
AND ONE IS THE OLD GARCIA.
THE CIGAR FACTORY.
AND THE OTHER USED TO BE A DRUG STORE AND HARDWARE STORE.
RIGHT ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER AND OWNED BY THE PRIDA FAMILY
AND I WANT TO TALK TO THEM.
AND THAT MY INTENT.
04:24:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO NO VOTE.
YOU GOT.
WHERE IS THE OTHER.
04:24:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
04:24:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GARCIA BUILDING WHERE THE FAMILY IS AT.
THAT IS WHERE -- WHERE I RAN MY ELECTION TEN YEARS AGO.
I THINK YOU WERE THERE.
04:24:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE SHOULD HAVE A SHRINE PUT ON THIS?
04:24:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, A SPECIAL PLACE TO ME.
BUT ALSO --
04:24:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE A PICTURE OF MY KIDS THERE THEY WERE
SHORTER THAN HIM AND NOW THEY ARE TALLER THAN HIM.
04:24:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU SEE THE DYNAMICS OF -- WE ARE ALL
CONNECTED AND WE ALL GIVE BACK.
YEAH, THAT BUILDING THE GARCIA BUILDING IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THEY HAVE ORIGINAL ELEVATORS AND ALL SORTS OF STUFF IN
THERE.
WHAT THE PRIDA FAMILY DID, THE HARDWARE STORE.
AND IT IS AMAZING HOW THEY PROTECTED THE FACADE.
AND THEY MODERNIZED IT INSTEAD OF DEMOLISHING AND PRESERVING
OUR HISTORY IN WEST TAMPA IS VERY IMPORTANT.
04:25:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:25:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE ONE QUICK.
I FORGO THE TO SAY, COLBY, THE REPORT FROM THE "TIMES" SAID
THE LAST TIME COVERING US AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
IMPORTANT THAT THE PRESS COVER US.
SHE HAS BEEN COVERING GOVERNMENT AND THE WHOLE REGION
INCLUDING WITH US.
THANK YOU.
WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WHAT THE "TIMES" SAYS BECAUSE THANK
YOU FOR COVERING US.
04:25:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
"TIMES" REPORTERS COME AND GO SO QUICKLY
AROUND HERE.
THEY COME AND GO.
MISS COPESKY HAS A REQUEST.
04:26:00PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
HAGAR KOPESKY, BUDGET COUNTY ANALYSIS, AND
I KNOW THE HOLIDAY NEXT WEEKS AND THE WEEK AFTER, PEOPLE
WILL NOT BE PRESENT AS MUCH.
SO IT IS PERFECT TIMING BECAUSE MR. ROGERO PRESENTED THE
MID-YEAR AND REFLECTED ON SLIDE 4, WHICH I WILL PUT DOWN BUT
JUST IN CASE YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU A BREAKOUT BETWEEN
THE ENTERPRISE EXPENDITURES AND THE GENERAL FUND.
WHY AND I BRINGING THAT UP?
LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID THE TWO WORKSHOPS.
ALL CAPITAL AND ALL EXPENSE.
WE LEARNED THROUGH EVERY WORKSHOP GOOD THINGS THAT CAME OUT
OF MAKING ADJUSTMENTS AND THE WAY THE REPORTS WERE SHOWN.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT I WANT TO USE
YOUR INPUT THAT YOU CONSIDER ON THE SLIDE THE MATERIALITY
LEVEL AND TO LOOK AT THE BALANCE SHEET PERSPECTIVE, MEANING
WHEN WE TALK OF GENERAL FUND, TALK OF THE EXPENSES OF THE
GENERAL FUND AND GET THE PRESENTATION OF THE CAPITAL THAT IS
ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE PARTICULAR APARTMENTS.
SAME WITH THE ENTERPRISE YOU WILL HEAR OF THE INVESTMENTS.
AND, AGAIN, YOU ARE TOGETHER.
IN CASE YOU WANT ANYTHING AROUND SLIGHT SHIFT IN FORMATTING.
ONLY REASON I AM BRINGING THAT UP, I WOULD LIKE TO -- I TEED
IT UP WITH REVENUE AND FINANCE AND WHETHER IT WAS INTEREST
ON PART OF COUNCIL.
04:27:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:27:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA THAT ALLOWS US TO
FOCUS ON ONE SECTION AT A TIME.
SO I -- IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION, I WILL MAKE IT.
OTHERWISE I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA AND TIMELY TO MAKE A
MOTION NOW OR GET BACK FROM BREAK.
TOO RATES.
04:27:59PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
LITTLE TOO LATE IF YOU CAME BACK FROM
BREAK.
IT WILL BE OKAY IF YOU E-MAIL ME.
04:28:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT ONE DAY BE ALL
GENERAL FUND, BOTH -- REVENUE AND THE CAPITAL.
AND SECOND SAY WILL BE ENTERPRISE.
04:28:21PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
THE NUMBERS WON'T CHANGE.
04:28:22PM >> INSTEAD OF DOING AN ONE DAY ON CAPITAL, WE WOULD JUST BE
ABLE TO FOCUS ON GENERAL FUND AND ONE ON -- I THINK IT IS A
GOOD IDEA.
04:28:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM -- SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE.
04:28:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO SAY REAL FAST BECAUSE I SAID IT
PRIVATELY AND I WILL SAY PUBLICLY.
WISH WE COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC VERSION OF INCOME STATEMENT
AND FOR PEOPLE TO SEE IT ON THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
REVENUES ON ONE PAGE AND EXPENSE ON THE NEXT PAGE AND NOBODY
NOBODY IS ADDING THEM TOGETHER TO SEE IF IT IS POSITIVE OR
NEGATIVE.
A BIT CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC.
04:29:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE ONE THING OF NEW BUSINESS.
I WILL ASK THAT THE CLERK AMEND THE CALENDAR TO AMEND WHAT
IS THE PARENTHESES OF THE SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP ON THE 4th
AND 11th.
CAPITAL BUDGET AND OPERATING BUDGET.
WE TAKE IT DOWN.
04:29:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GENERAL VERSES ENTERPRISE.
04:29:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF THAT PASSES TAKE IT OUT THERE.
A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE A SECOND?
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
UNANIMOUS.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE THREE -- THANK YOU, WE HAVE
THREE BIRTHDAYS TO CELEBRATE.
MY CHAIR PRO TEM LYNN HURTAK RECENTLY CELEBRATED -- GOING TO
CELEBRATE A BIRTHDAY NEXT WEEK.
WE HAD OUR CHARLIE MIRANDA'S LEGISLATIVE AIDE AND INFAMOUS
CITY COUNCIL EMPLOYEE MARY BRYANT CELEBRATING A BIRTHDAY ON
JUNE 21.
AND I SEE THAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO DITCHED US BEFORE WE
COULD SAY THAT HE WILL HAVE A BIRTHDAY ON THE 13th.
 HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU 
04:30:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEFORE WE LEAVE, I NEED TO SAY --
04:30:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM LEAVING BECAUSE HE IS SINGING.
04:30:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE AT THAT SAY THIS AND MAY INTERRUPT.
MAY I BE RECOGNIZED.
04:30:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
04:30:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY.
THIS IS YOUR LAST MEET ING BEFORE SUMMER RECESS.
YOU COME BACK.
PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL NOT MEET --
04:30:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHOW UP NEXT THURSDAY AND THE THURSDAY
AFTER THAT BUT YOU WILL BE VERY LONELY.
04:30:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JULY 17.
REASON I AM TALKING TO YOU AND ASK YOU TO BE MINDFUL BECAUSE
YOU ARE GEARING UP FOR THE PUBLIC INFORMATION MEET WITH THE
PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FUTURE LANDS USE MAP.
YOU SAID YOU WANT TO BE THE SAFEGUARD OF ATTENDING THAT WITH
SO HERE IS MY ADVICE TO YOU.
THIS IS REALLY NOT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
A MEETING CONDUCTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FORMAT IT.
THEY ARE WORKING WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS ANOTHER.
AND YOU WILL ALL DO IT.
IN TERMS OF NOTICE AND TAKING MINUTES, IT IS A LOGISTIC
IMPOSSIBILITY.
I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF YOU WENT TO
ANY OTHER PUBLIC MEETING IS TO BE MINDFUL OF YOUR
OBLIGATIONS OUTSIDE OF CITY COUNCIL RELATIVE TO THE SUNSHINE
LAW.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF IT IS A SINGLE MEMBER IT IS STRICT,
LIKELY PERHAPS THAT YOU WILL HAVE MEMBERS.
SO AS A -- MY SUGGESTION IS TO TAKE THIS AS A LISTENING
SESSION ON YOUR PART.
YOU CAN TAKE NOTES.
IF YOU DON'T SHARE THEM, ANOTHER NOT PUBLIC RECORDS.
I DON'T THINK YOU DON'T ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS AND SAY
SOMETHING AT THE MEETING THAT WILL CAUSE ANOTHER
COUNCILMEMBER TO WANT TO HAVE TO RESPONDS, IT WILL CREATE
PROBLEMS.
ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU ARE ON A VIRTUAL MEETING -- BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT
NEIGHBORHOODS WANT TO SET UP THIS KIND OF MEETING WITH THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
YOU MAY GO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
SAME RULES WILL APPLY.
VIRTUAL MEETING THAT IS RELATING TO CITY BUSINESS WITH THE
FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU REMAIN MINDFUL THAT YOU DON'T
DISCUSS THE MATTER ON THE VIRTUAL MEETING ON THE -- ON THE
OFF CHANCE FOR PRODUCT -- THAT THERE ARE OTHER COUNCIL
MEMBERS PRESENT.
SO I KNOW IT IS A BURDEN ON YOUR PART, BUT THE SUNSHINE LAW
PLACES UPON YOU, BUT IT IS STILL AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO
USE IT TO YOUR BENEFIT AS A LISTENING SESSION AND TO LEARN
FROM IT.
04:33:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, MAKE SURE YOU BRIEF COUNCIL
MEMBER MANISCALCO ON THAT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:33:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SEND A ONE PARAGRAPH MEMO TO PRESENT AND
GIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY, THE SOUTH TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
ARE PARTICULARLY ALARMED FROM THAT PROPOSAL FROM THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY WANTED TO EACH HAVE MEETINGS.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAYED THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO
DO THAT AND NEIGHBORHOOD WILL TRY TO GROUP IN GROUPS OF TWO
OR THREE THEY ARE INVITING ALL YOU HAVE US.
WE WON'T BREAK SUNSHINE, BUT I WILL BE VERY HAPPY IF ALL OF
YOU CAME.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU.
04:33:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A PUBLIC MEETING.
YOU CERTAINLY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE.
WE ONLY ASK THAT YOU REMAIN MINDFUL OF THE SUNSHINE LAW
OBLIGATION, THANK YOU.
04:34:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CITY CLERK'S
OFFICE OF THE FLOWERS IN HONOR OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
MOTION AND RECEIVE AND FILE AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

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