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9:02:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
9:02:11AM WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:02:13AM WE'LL BEGIN, IF WE MAY, WITH -- I'M SORRY, THANK YOU.
9:02:17AM CRA.
9:02:17AM WELCOME TO CRA.
9:02:18AM WE BEGIN WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
9:02:21AM PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO AND REMAIN STANDING FOR
9:02:24AM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:02:28AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:02:37AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:02:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:02:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:03:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:03:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:03:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:03:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:03:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:03:05AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:03:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:03:08AM LET'S GO THROUGH -- SORRY.
9:03:09AM LET'S GO THROUGH APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
9:03:12AM I KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS HERE.
9:03:19AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
9:03:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEMS 5 AND 6 TO SEPTEMBER
9:03:27AM 11 -- 4, 5, 6.
9:03:31AM I KNEW IT WAS THREE.
9:03:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
9:03:34AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:03:35AM A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:03:37AM ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?
9:03:38AM SORRY, CLENDENIN.
9:03:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
9:03:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. McCRAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON
9:03:46AM THAT, SIR?
9:03:47AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: NO.
9:03:48AM THANK YOU TO BOARD MEMBER HURTAK FOR THAT.
9:03:50AM THERE WAS A WALK-ON ITEM RELATED TO THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART
9:03:53AM THAT WE SENT LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON FOR REQUIRED APPROVALS
9:03:58AM AS RELATED TO WORK THAT THEY WANTED TO BE DONE.
9:04:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
9:04:03AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:04:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CRITICISM IN THE
9:04:10AM COMMUNITY ABOUT THE MATRIX AND THE PROCESS THAT'S BEING
9:04:13AM USED.
9:04:13AM WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE MOST OBJECTIVE PROCESS TO
9:04:18AM EVALUATE APPLICATIONS.
9:04:19AM BUT SINCE THE MATRIX AND THE PROCESS IS BEING DELAYED UNTIL
9:04:22AM SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION TODAY THAT'S BEEN IN THE
9:04:25AM PIPELINE FOR A YEAR AND COME BEFORE US BEFORE.
9:04:27AM BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE BEFORE US FOR THE FIRST TIME.
9:04:30AM NOTHING AGAINST THE PROJECT, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO
9:04:33AM CONTINUE ITEM 8 AND ANY OTHER APPLICATIONS UNTIL OCTOBER SO
9:04:36AM WE CAN APPLY THE OBJECTIVE PROCESS.
9:04:38AM I THINK USING THE OBJECTIVE PROCESS WILL HELP US TO GET
9:04:41AM COMMUNITY BUY-IN ON ANY KIND OF EVALUATION WE DO.
9:04:46AM IN CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
9:04:48AM I SENT OUT A MEMO LAST NIGHT WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT
9:04:51AM THE PROBLEM WITH PROJECTS IS BEING ABLE TO COMPARE APPLES
9:04:54AM AND APPLES.
9:04:54AM AND THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT IS IT FIRST IN, FIRST OUT, ARE
9:04:58AM WE COMPARING OVER TIME?
9:04:59AM IT IS FAIR TO EVERYONE TO TAKE ANY NEW APPLICATIONS AND PUT
9:05:04AM THEM IN OCTOBER SO WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY THE NEW PROCESS.
9:05:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:05:08AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:05:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:05:10AM THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO IN NORMAL
9:05:16AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:05:16AM WE AREN'T GOING TO STOP NEW PROJECTS IN THE REST OF THE CITY
9:05:19AM WHILE WE REDO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
9:05:21AM I AGREE WITH YOU.
9:05:23AM WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO IMPROVE THIS.
9:05:26AM WE HAVE TWEAKS THAT A THOUSAND PERCENT I AGREE WE NEED TO
9:05:30AM MAKE.
9:05:30AM BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO PUT IN
9:05:32AM APPLICATIONS AND FOLLOWED THE CURRENT RULES TO BE PUNISHED
9:05:37AM TO WAIT.
9:05:38AM I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
9:05:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT NUMBER 8.
9:05:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW.
9:05:45AM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
9:05:46AM THEY PUT THEIR APPLICATION IN, FOLLOWED THE RULES, DID WHAT
9:05:49AM THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AND NOW WE'RE SAYING, NO, WE'RE
9:05:52AM GOING TO CHANGE THE RULES ON YOU.
9:05:54AM AGAIN, I AGREE WITH YOU, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE UPDATING TO DO.
9:05:57AM I THINK THAT'S NORMAL.
9:05:59AM I WOULD ACTUALLY BE UPSET IF WE DIDN'T HAVE CHANGES TO MAKE
9:06:03AM BECAUSE IT'S A CONSTANT -- AND I DON'T EVEN THINK WHAT WE DO
9:06:07AM IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH.
9:06:08AM WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE CHANGES TO MAKE.
9:06:12AM I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOWED THE
9:06:15AM RULES THAT WE HAVE TO NOT HEAR THEIR PETITION TODAY.
9:06:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE THING, I WAS TALKING TO STAFF YESTERDAY,
9:06:26AM WON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS EXACTLY, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE
9:06:29AM TAKING 30% OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR EACH DISTRICT THAT WE
9:06:31AM TAKE 40, I THINK 6.7 MILLION THIS YEAR FOR AFFORDABLE
9:06:35AM HOUSING IN EAST TAMPA, AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT 7 POINT
9:06:39AM SOMETHING MILLION ROLLED OVER FROM THE PAST.
9:06:41AM WE PUT BOTH TOGETHER, THAT'S ABOUT 14 MILLION.
9:06:44AM NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER EIGHT TOGETHER, ABOUT 14 MILLION.
9:06:47AM SO WITH THE NEW CRITERIA, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY UNTIL
9:06:50AM FUTURE YEAR.
9:06:51AM I KNOW NUMBER 8 IS OVER TWO OR THREE YEARS.
9:06:54AM STILL, IT STARTS TO -- IT'S SUCH A BIG AMOUNT IT STARTS TO
9:06:58AM BLOCK UP --
9:06:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I TOTALLY DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I DO
9:07:02AM BELIEVE IT'S FAIR TO HEAR A PETITION THAT CAME TO US IN GOOD
9:07:08AM FAITH.
9:07:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, BUT BEFORE WE GO, DO WE
9:07:13AM HAVE -- I ASSUME THAT IS A MOTION.
9:07:17AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN CAN SPEAK.
9:07:19AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT?
9:07:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAY, BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
9:07:25AM IN PRINCIPLE, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:07:27AM AND PART OF WHAT I BROUGHT UP, THE FIRST GUIDELINE FIRST
9:07:32AM CREATED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE GOT HERE, THE WAY WE
9:07:35AM GOT HERE.
9:07:35AM I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I HEARD COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
9:07:42AM SAY RULES.
9:07:43AM THERE ARE MORE GUIDELINES THAN RULES, PER SE.
9:07:45AM I THINK THE WAY THEY WERE PRESENTED.
9:07:48AM UP TO.
9:07:49AM MORE OF A GUIDELINE THAN A RULE.
9:07:51AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY THAT.
9:07:55AM UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS, THE COUNCIL HAS
9:07:57AM ULTIMATE SAY -- THE BOARD HAS ULTIMATE SAY ON HOW THESE
9:08:00AM EXPENDITURES ARE DECIDED BASED ON GUIDELINES.
9:08:07AM I THINK THAT IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THE APPLICANTS AND TO THE
9:08:12AM TAXPAYERS THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST TAKE A PAUSE, REALLY
9:08:17AM DIGEST WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THESE FUNDS AND THE GUIDELINES
9:08:20AM AND LOOK -- BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT
9:08:23AM ARE COMING.
9:08:24AM IT'S DIFFICULT TO JUST WEIGH EACH PROJECT BECAUSE THEY ARE
9:08:27AM FIRST IN, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A PROJECT THAT'S THREE OR
9:08:30AM FOUR IN, MAY BE MORE WORTHY, IF WE SPEND THAT MONEY NOW,
9:08:36AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND.
9:08:37AM I THINK THE PRUDENT THING TO DO, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
9:08:40AM I AGREE WITH THAT, TOO.
9:08:42AM IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
9:08:43AM BUT I THINK WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, IT MAY BE PRUDENT TO
9:08:47AM PAUSE, GET OUR HEADS ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS, WHAT PROJECTS
9:08:50AM ARE IN THE PIPELINE, SO WE CAN MAKE A REALLY GOOD DECISION
9:08:53AM FURTHER DOWN THE LINE.
9:08:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I RESPOND TO THAT?
9:08:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM, PLEASE.
9:08:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I'LL DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
9:09:01AM WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNITY.
9:09:04AM IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY WANT TO DO AND DO, THEN WE
9:09:08AM NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION.
9:09:09AM WE NEED TO GET IT DONE THIS SUMMER.
9:09:11AM LIKE, WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER.
9:09:13AM SO WHAT I'M SAYING, AGAIN, IF WE WANT TO DO THAT GOING
9:09:18AM FORWARD, I STILL THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
9:09:21AM IN THE PIPELINE AND HERE TODAY TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO
9:09:27AM SAY.
9:09:27AM AND THEN, IF WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER AND WE WANT
9:09:31AM TO FAST TRACK IT AND HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION AND DO ALL THIS,
9:09:36AM BUT WHAT PARTICULARLY BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS IS WE WOULDN'T
9:09:40AM DO THIS FOR ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THE REST OF THE CITY.
9:09:44AM WE WOULDN'T SAY, ENHH, STOP.
9:09:48AM NO DEVELOPMENTS CAN GO INTO THE PIPELINE WHILE WE FIGURE
9:09:53AM THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OUT.
9:09:54AM THAT'S NOT REASONABLE OR RATIONAL.
9:09:58AM THAT'S MY ARGUMENT IS, YES, WE NEED TO FIX THESE.
9:10:02AM IF YOU WANT TO DO IT AND ADD A SPECIAL SESSION AND, LIKE,
9:10:05AM REALLY HIT IT HARD, I'M A THOUSAND PERCENT WITH YOU.
9:10:09AM BUT WE CAN'T JUST SAY NEVER MIND BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE IN THE
9:10:13AM CRAs, DEVELOPERS ARE NOT GOING TO TRUST US.
9:10:15AM THEY ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, OH, I COULD HAVE SPEND -- I CAN
9:10:18AM SPEND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
9:10:20AM I CAN HAVE GONE TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:10:24AM WHEN I COME TO COUNCIL OR THE CRA BOARD, THEY ARE JUST GOING
9:10:27AM TO DECIDE TO CHANGE.
9:10:28AM I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD
9:10:31AM BEGINNING HERE.
9:10:34AM I THINK THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE US DO SOME CHANGES, BUT
9:10:37AM WE ABSOLUTELY JUST CAN'T TURN ON A DIME.
9:10:44AM WE WOULDN'T DO THAT TO DEVELOPERS AND THE REST OF THE CITY.
9:10:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA OR MANISCALCO, DO YOU
9:10:47AM HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY?
9:10:48AM IF I MAY, LET'S LIMIT, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AGENDA TO LIKE TWO
9:10:52AM MINUTES.
9:10:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:11:01AM WHEN YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS FOR WHATEVER REASON APPLY AND THEY
9:11:04AM ARE IN THE SYSTEM, HOW AM I GOING TO TELL THEM, NO, YOU
9:11:08AM CAN'T.
9:11:10AM WAIT 90 DAYS OR ONE FOURTH OF A YEAR.
9:11:13AM THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
9:11:14AM ONE-FOURTH OF A YEAR, 90 DAYS IS ONE-FOURTH OF A YEAR, I
9:11:18AM THINK.
9:11:18AM YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES, YEAH, CHANGE THEM.
9:11:22AM MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS IN LINE SO WHEN THE PEOPLE APPLY
9:11:25AM THEY KNOW UNDER THE NEW RULES, NOT THE RULES WE'RE TALKING
9:11:27AM ABOUT TODAY.
9:11:28AM I THINK IT WOULD BE, IN MY MIND, ANYWAY, WE LOSE SOME TRUST
9:11:33AM IN THAT IF WE DO THAT.
9:11:34AM BUT THAT'S JUST ME SPEAKING TO MYSELF.
9:11:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE MINUTE EACH.
9:11:41AM GO AHEAD.
9:11:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M NOT DISAGREEING ON PRINCIPLE.
9:11:48AM I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO ADDING MEETINGS.
9:11:50AM I NEVER AM.
9:11:51AM I THINK SOMETIMES WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE DOING THAT AS A
9:11:54AM SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:11:55AM BUT MY PROBLEM IS, I JUST DON'T FEEL AT THIS MOMENT WITH THE
9:11:59AM INFORMATION WE HAVE OUT THERE, IT ALMOST FORCES ME A NO VOTE
9:12:03AM ON SOMETHING I SUPPORT.
9:12:04AM IN PRINCIPLE I SUPPORT A PROJECT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE OTHER
9:12:07AM IMPLICATIONS OF IT, IT ALMOST PUSHES ME IN A POSITION TO SAY
9:12:11AM NO ON SOMETHING I WANT TO SAY YES ON.
9:12:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: SAME THING WITH ME.
9:12:19AM THE PROBLEM IS, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE
9:12:21AM CRITERIA TODAY, BUT STAFF MOVED IT TO SEPTEMBER, WHICH
9:12:25AM PUSHED EVERYTHING OUT.
9:12:26AM I'LL PASS OUT THIS MEMO REAL FAST AND GIVE IT TO THE CLERK,
9:12:29AM THE ONE I E-MAILED.
9:12:30AM WE'RE NOT SETTING NECESSARILY NEW CRITERIA, BUT THE QUESTION
9:12:33AM IS, HOW DO WE COMPARE PROJECTS AGAINST EACH OTHER?
9:12:35AM FOR EXAMPLE, A MONTH AGO OR SO, THE STAFF SAID, TALKED ABOUT
9:12:39AM THE PER UNIT PRICE OF FUN-LAN.
9:12:44AM THE COMPARISON WAS NOT APPLES AND APPLES.
9:12:46AM SAME THING YESTERDAY STAFF SAID ON THIS PROJECT, NUMBER 8,
9:12:49AM 63,000 PER UNIT.
9:12:51AM NOT APPLES AND APPLES EITHER.
9:12:53AM AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS WHETHER WE SHOULD -- SO THE
9:12:55AM QUESTION IS, HOW SHOULD WE COMPARE IN THIS CASE THE CITY
9:12:58AM GAVE LAND SO THAT THROWS IN A DIFFERENT CALCULATION, AND
9:13:01AM THEN THE OTHER THING, DO YOU COMPARE ON CONSTRUCTION COST
9:13:04AM BASIS OR PRO FORMA, 50-YEAR CASH FLOW BASIS WHICH THEY CALL
9:13:08AM A GAP ANALYSIS.
9:13:10AM IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SETTING NEW CRITERIA.
9:13:12AM IT'S JUST FIGURING OUT HOW DO YOU MEASURE ONE AGAINST THE
9:13:15AM OTHER?
9:13:16AM WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLES AND APPLES COMPARISON RIGHT NOW.
9:13:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY QUICK.
9:13:19AM ONE MINUTE.
9:13:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT, AGAIN, IT
9:13:24AM KIND OF FEELS LIKE SOMEONE WHO IS JUST WAITING AROUND FOR
9:13:28AM THE BEST DEAL TO COME, AND WE CAN'T DO THAT.
9:13:31AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
9:13:33AM IT IS THE SAME WITH EVENING MEETING TONIGHT.
9:13:36AM WE CAN'T LOOK AT A PARCEL AND SAY, ENH, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO
9:13:39AM WAIT UNTIL A BETTER DEVELOPMENT COMES.
9:13:41AM THAT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW TO DO THAT.
9:13:45AM QUITE FRANKLY, THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN WAITING.
9:13:52AM I DON'T WANT TO -- WELL, FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT TODAY, I
9:13:54AM WON'T SUPPORT THAT VOTE.
9:13:55AM WHAT I WILL SUPPORT IS A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO TALK ABOUT
9:13:58AM THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
9:13:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: SINCE IT'S YOUR MOTION, DO YOU WANT 30 SECONDS
9:14:02AM TO REBUT THE FINAL ONE ON THIS SIR?
9:14:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THAT A MOTION TO AMEND TO ADD THE
9:14:08AM SPECIAL SESSION?
9:14:09AM I COULD SUPPORT THAT.
9:14:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
9:14:13AM WE CAN DO IT SEPARATELY.
9:14:14AM I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE THE RECORD.
9:14:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS DEALS WITH THE AGENDA NOW.
9:14:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE COULD LET THIS DIE AND HAVE A SPECIAL
9:14:23AM SESSION TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE.
9:14:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
9:14:27AM AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. McCRAY.
9:14:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
9:14:31AM I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING THAT BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN SAID,
9:14:34AM I PROBABLY WOULD SUPPORT THIS PROJECT ON NUMBER 8, BUT IF IT
9:14:38AM COMES UP FOR A VOTE TODAY, I WOULD VOTE NO BECAUSE WE DON'T
9:14:41AM HAVE THE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA.
9:14:44AM IF IT'S IN OCTOBER, I MIGHT VOTE YES.
9:14:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT APPEARS THEN THAT THE MOTION IS WITHDRAWN
9:14:48AM IN EFFECT.
9:14:49AM SO LET'S PROCEED.
9:14:50AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 12
9:14:53AM MEETING, PLEASE?
9:14:54AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:14:56AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:59AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:14:59AM MAY I ALSO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WALK-ON ITEM FOR THE
9:15:02AM TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART?
9:15:03AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:15:06AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:15:07AM ALL IN FAVOR -- YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
9:15:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF ON TAMPA MUSEUM OF
9:15:13AM ART.
9:15:14AM CAN I ASK THE ATTORNEY, AM I ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR
9:15:17AM ADMINISTRATIVE AGENDA ITEM OR NOT?
9:15:18AM SHOULD I RECUSE --
9:15:22AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: WHETHER IT IS ON THE AGENDA OR NOT.
9:15:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL RECUSE MYSELF ON THE ULTIMATE ITEM BUT
9:15:27AM SHOULD I RECUSE MYSELF ON THAT VOTE OR NOT?
9:15:29AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: THE ANSWER IS IF IT IS TO KEEP IT ON THE
9:15:33AM AGENDA, YOU DO NOT NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF.
9:15:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:37AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:15:38AM LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:15:43AM OH, I'M SO SORRY.
9:15:45AM OH, A MOTION TO OPEN THE AGENDA.
9:15:49AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:15:50AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:15:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:52AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:15:52AM GREAT.
9:15:55AM NOW I BELIEVE WE BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:15:58AM COME FORTH.
9:16:00AM DO ME A FAVOR, EVERYONE WHO IS HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT -- WE
9:16:07AM USUALLY START WITH VIRTUAL FIRST, CORRECT?
9:16:10AM LET'S DO THAT.
9:16:12AM MY APOLOGIES, GUYS.
9:16:13AM LET'S DO VIRTUAL FIRST.
9:16:15AM WE HAVE MR. MIKE KANTER WHO IS HERE.
9:16:18AM HAVE AT IT, SIR.
9:16:20AM OKAY.
9:16:30AM I GUESS MR. KANTER IS NOT HAVING AT IT.
9:16:34AM PROCEED WITH MR. RANDOLPH.
9:16:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:16:39AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:16:41AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
9:16:43AM WHAT A TIME WE ARE LIVING IN.
9:16:47AM I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO SPEAK NOT JUST ABOUT THE CALM
9:16:51AM BEFORE THE STORM, BUT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SAFETY NET IN THE
9:16:58AM WAKE OF FEDERAL POLICIES UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
9:17:03AM COMBINED WITH THE -- ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, JOB
9:17:10AM DISPLACEMENT, WE ARE FACING A PROFOUND SHIFT IN THE
9:17:14AM SOCIOECONOMIC LANDSCAPE, ONE THAT DEMANDS A BOLD AND
9:17:18AM VISIONARY RESPONSE.
9:17:20AM OUR SOLUTIONS CANNOT MEET THE MOMENT.
9:17:24AM SURVIVAL IN THIS NEW NORM REQUIRES FORWARD THINKING,
9:17:27AM INFRASTRUCTURE ROOTED IN INNOVATION, EQUITY, AND
9:17:32AM EMPOWERMENT.
9:17:32AM TAMPA NEEDS A STRATEGY FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, AND OUR
9:17:38AM RESPONSE IS THE TECHNOLOGY -- JOB CREATION CENTER.
9:17:53AM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
9:17:56AM -- REDUCE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND LONG-TERM COMMUNITY
9:18:30AM SUSTAINABILITY.
9:18:31AM ANTI-GENTRIFICATION, RESIDENTS ELEVATE INCOME LEVELS AND
9:18:39AM BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH, THEY CAN REMAIN IN AND INVEST IN
9:18:43AM THEIR OWN COMMUNITY, MITIGATING DISPLACEMENT CAUSED BY
9:18:48AM REDEVELOPMENT.
9:18:49AM ECONOMIC GROWTH, INCREASE THE TAX BASE AND LOCAL ECONOMY
9:19:00AM ACTIVITIES.
9:19:00AM FINANCIAL CONFIDENCE, RIPPLE EFFECT, HEIGHTENED INTEREST IN
9:19:10AM INVESTORS AND LENDERS, COMMUNITY IMPACT AND SUSTAINABLE
9:19:16AM RETURN.
9:19:17AM A PATHWAY WHERE WEST TAMPA RESIDENTS DON'T NEED -- NEW TYPE
9:19:36AM OF DEVELOPMENT.
9:19:37AM JOIN US IN LATE AUGUST AS WE PRESENT TO THE NATION WEST
9:19:40AM TAMPA AT ITS BEST.
9:19:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:19:43AM WE APPRECIATE YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:19:45AM IT APPEARS MR. KANTER HAS APPEARED.
9:19:47AM MR. KANTER, GO FOR IT, SIR.
9:19:49AM UNMUTE YOURSELF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR, SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.
9:20:00AM >> HELLO.
9:20:01AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:20:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, WE SURE CAN.
9:20:04AM GO FOR IT.
9:20:05AM >> GREAT.
9:20:05AM SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.
9:20:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'RE FINE.
9:20:07AM >> I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT URBAN REWORX INFILL PROJECT ON
9:20:16AM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
9:20:17AM I THINK I HAVE, WHAT, THREE MINUTES.
9:20:19AM IS THAT CORRECT?
9:20:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, YOU DO.
9:20:22AM UP TO.
9:20:23AM >> I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF AND TO THE POINT.
9:20:26AM I'VE WORKED ON HOMELESS AND NEAR HOMELESS MATTERS NOW FOR
9:20:32AM ABOUT 40 YEARS, HALF MY LIFE.
9:20:35AM I'VE BEEN HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH HABITAT HERE IN TAMPA AT ONE
9:20:40AM POINT, AND I'M CURRENTLY WORKING WITH TAMPA HOPE OUT AT THE
9:20:45AM CAMPUS OUTSIDE OF YBOR CITY.
9:20:51AM I, ALONG WITH MY WIFE, COFOUNDED A HOMELESS MINISTRY
9:20:56AM INITIALLY AT FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, WHICH USED TO BE THE
9:21:01AM DOWNTOWN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, THE REASON WE NOW WORK WITH
9:21:06AM CATHOLIC CHARITIES, MOVED TO ANOTHER PART OF TOWN AND HAD TO
9:21:11AM FIND A NEW LOCATION FOR THAT.
9:21:13AM DURING THE TIME THAT WE WERE OPERATING OUT OF FIRST
9:21:23AM PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, WE HAD A VERY INTERDENOMINATIONAL
9:21:28AM VOLUNTEER SUPPORT PROGRAM.
9:21:31AM WE HAD EIGHT CHURCHES INVOLVED, INCLUDING DESIGNERS WAY
9:21:35AM WHICH IS A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK CHURCH ON THE EAST SIDE OF
9:21:41AM TAMPA.
9:21:41AM I'M CURRENTLY INVOLVED WITH A PROJECT INVOLVING SACRED HEART
9:21:48AM CHURCH, WHICH HOPEFULLY IS ALSO GOING TO INVOLVE ST. PETER
9:21:52AM CLAVER CHURCH RIGHT IN THE NEBRASKA AVENUE CORRIDOR.
9:21:56AM SO ENOUGH ON MY BACKGROUND AND INTERESTS, BUT ONE OF THE
9:22:04AM THINGS THAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS FROM THE CALCULATIONS
9:22:10AM I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO, THE HOUSING PROBLEM IS WELL BEYOND
9:22:18AM BEING A PROBLEM AT THIS POINT, NOT ONLY HERE LOCALLY BUT
9:22:23AM NATIONALLY.
9:22:23AM IT'S A CRISIS.
9:22:25AM ACCORDING TO MY CALCULATIONS, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS ABOUT
9:22:29AM 50,000 UNITS SHORT, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE MY DATA IF
9:22:34AM ANYBODY IS INTERESTED TO SEE HOW I DERIVED THOSE NUMBERS.
9:22:37AM WHAT THAD BEREDAY IS TRYING TO GET DONE IN THE NEBRASKA
9:22:47AM AVENUE CORRIDOR, IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AN INFILL PROJECT
9:22:55AM IN AN AREA OF PARTICULAR NEED.
9:22:59AM FROM WHAT I'VE READ AND WHAT THAD HAS INFORMED ME OF, HIS
9:23:04AM PROJECT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
9:23:07AM PLAN.
9:23:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:23:08AM WE APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.
9:23:10AM YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
9:23:12AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:23:13AM NEXT WE HAVE MS. RODRIGUEZ.
9:23:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:23:25AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:23:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU DON'T MIND, MS. RODRIGUEZ, GIVING YOUR
9:23:34AM NAME.
9:23:34AM >> ADRIANNE RODRIGUEZ, TAMPA RESIDENT.
9:23:38AM I AM SPEAKING ON SHOWMEN'S REST TODAY, BUT NOT TOO LONG AGO,
9:23:44AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SUGGESTED THE CITY LOOK INTO POSSIBLY
9:23:49AM SETTING ASIDE FUNDS FOR FUTURE GPR SCANS BECAUSE THIS IS AN
9:23:54AM ONGOING THING WITH CEMETERIES.
9:23:57AM SINCE SHOWMEN'S REST LISTED THE PARCEL OF LAND WITHIN
9:24:02AM WOODLAWN CEMETERY IN MARCH OF 2025, THE POTENTIAL BUYER OF
9:24:07AM THE PARCEL OF LAND HAD HER CAMERA DISABLED.
9:24:11AM HER SECURITY CAMERAS WERE DISABLED.
9:24:13AM SHE RECEIVED THREATENING LETTERS IN THE MAIL, PARKED CARS
9:24:22AM ACROSS THE STREET FROM HER HOME.
9:24:24AM SOMEONE TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO LOG ON TO A STATE WEBSITE
9:24:28AM AND FILLED OUT A HISTORICAL CEMETERY FORM ON A PARCEL OF
9:24:31AM LAND ZONED RS-50.
9:24:34AM THE STATE SENT A LETTER TO SHOWMEN'S REST WITH THE
9:24:37AM ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE OF A PERSON WHO OVERSEES AN
9:24:40AM ORGANIZATION RELATED TO CEMETERIES.
9:24:45AM IT'S UNETHICAL, IF NOT CRIMINAL.
9:24:46AM THE GREATER SHOWMEN'S REST ASSOCIATION IS LOOKING INTO
9:24:50AM PRESSING CHARGES, AND THEY ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM
9:24:52AM THEIR ATTORNEYS.
9:24:53AM JOHN PERZIA, PRESIDENT OF SHOWMEN'S REST, WOULD HAVE ALLOWED
9:24:59AM A GPR PRIOR TO WHAT HE CALLS PUBLIC HUMILIATION AND
9:25:03AM THREE-RING CIRCUS, NO PUN INTENDED.
9:25:05AM THE ONE THING I'VE LEARNED FROM SAVING CEMETERIES, IT'S
9:25:09AM ALWAYS BEST TO WORK TOGETHER, NOT AGAINST ONE ANOTHER.
9:25:13AM MR. PERZIA WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY TO KNOW THAT SHOWMEN'S
9:25:17AM REST IS HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEABLE TO A GPR SCAN AS LONG AS
9:25:22AM THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
9:25:24AM PERHAPS USF COULD HELP.
9:25:25AM IF A MOTION NEEDS TO BE FILED WITH LEGAL, WOULD ONE OF YOU
9:25:30AM PLEASE INITIATE THE PROCESS AS HE'S ANXIOUS TO MOVE FORWARD
9:25:34AM WITH THIS.
9:25:34AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY, COUNCIL AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
9:25:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:25:38AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:25:40AM THERE BEING NO FURTHER VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WE GO TO IN
9:25:43AM PERSON.
9:25:44AM WHEN YOU COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:25:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:25:47AM MY NAME IS MITA MARTINEZ.
9:25:49AM EVERYONE KNOWS ME AS MIMI.
9:25:52AM I LIVE IN YBOR HEIGHTS.
9:25:53AM I AM A MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA CAC COMMITTEE.
9:25:56AM I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 AND NUMBER 8
9:26:01AM BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE
9:26:04AM COMMUNITY.
9:26:05AM IN THE COMMUNITY, THERE SEEMS TO BE TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHTS
9:26:12AM ON THESE PROJECTS.
9:26:14AM ONE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT THESE PROJECTS WILL
9:26:16AM NOT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
9:26:19AM AND THEN THE OTHER BIG ISSUE IS MONEY, AND IT'S A CONCERN
9:26:24AM FOR US AND IT'S A CONCERN FOR YOU.
9:26:27AM WE ARE AT A CROSSROADS RIGHT NOW WHERE FOR THE FIRST TIME
9:26:31AM THE EAST TAMPA CRA IS GETTING A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE
9:26:34AM INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING EAST TAMPA.
9:26:36AM THAT IS A GOOD PROBLEM.
9:26:37AM BUT IT'S ALSO OPENED UP A CAN OF WORMS AS FAR AS HOW DO WE
9:26:42AM DIVERSIFY THOSE FUNDS SO THAT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN EAST
9:26:44AM TAMPA FEELS LIKE THEY ARE GETTING A LITTLE PIECE OF THAT
9:26:47AM PIE.
9:26:48AM ALSO, HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT IS THE BEST DEVELOPER AND WHAT
9:26:51AM DEVELOPER REALLY HAS THE COMMUNITY IN MIND.
9:26:54AM I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A
9:26:57AM MORE COMPETITIVE SPECIAL USE GRANTS APPLICATION PROCESS TO
9:27:02AM HELP US KIND OF NAVIGATE HOW WE SELECT WHO WE'RE GOING TO
9:27:08AM FUND AND HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO FUND.
9:27:10AM WE HAVE ATTRACTED DEVELOPERS TO COME TO EAST TAMPA, SO I
9:27:16AM AGREE WE SHOULD NOT SLOW THAT DOWN AND WE NEED TO STRIKE
9:27:19AM WHILE THE IRON IS HOT.
9:27:21AM BUT NOW WE'RE AT A CROSSROADS.
9:27:23AM HOW DO WE EVALUATE WHO GETS WHAT.
9:27:26AM I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO THE THOUGHT WHERE IT IS FIRST COME,
9:27:29AM FIRST SERVED.
9:27:30AM I DON'T.
9:27:30AM PEOPLE ARE KNOCKING AT THE DOOR, AND THAT IS A GOOD THING,
9:27:35AM BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE BAD
9:27:39AM CHARACTERS WHO ARE KNOCKING AT THAT DOOR, TOO.
9:27:41AM FOR ME, WHEN I SEE A DEVELOPER WHO COMES HERE AND THEY LAY
9:27:44AM OUT LINE BY LINE HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BRING ECONOMIC
9:27:47AM DEVELOPMENT INTO THE COMMUNITY, HOW THEY ARE GOING TO REDUCE
9:27:49AM SLUM AND BLIGHT IN AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN TRADITIONALLY KNOWN
9:27:54AM FOR DECADES TO BE AN AREA OF DRUG DEALING AND PROSTITUTION,
9:27:59AM BECAUSE THE HARSH REALITY, THAT IS WHAT THE ECONOMIC ENGINE
9:28:04AM IS ON NEBRASKA AVENUE.
9:28:05AM AND THAT'S HARD TO SAY, BUT IT IS.
9:28:07AM IN THE UNDERWORLD, A LOT OF MONEY IS BEING MADE OFF OF
9:28:11AM SELLING DRUGS AND PROSTITUTION ON NEBRASKA AVENUE.
9:28:14AM OUR BARRIER IS WE CANNOT TELL PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS, HEY, YOU
9:28:19AM CAN'T SELL DRUGS HERE, AND WE CANNOT GO TO THE PRIVATE
9:28:22AM BUSINESS OWNERS WHO OWN HOTELS, HEY, YOU NEED TO STOP
9:28:25AM PROSTITUTION HERE.
9:28:26AM BUT WE CAN BRING IN OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT.
9:28:29AM THAT IS OUR WEAPON TO COUNTER THAT, TO BRING IN WHOLESOME
9:28:33AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE WILL
9:28:35AM BENEFIT FROM.
9:28:35AM SO A LOT OF THINGS FOR US TO ALL THINK ABOUT.
9:28:40AM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.
9:28:41AM I THINK WE HAVE SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS TO ASK, BUT I DO THINK
9:28:44AM EVEN AS A CAC MEMBER, IT COULD BE VERY CONFUSING FOR ME AS
9:28:47AM WELL AS TO WHO SHOULD I SUPPORT AND WHO I SHOULDN'T.
9:28:50AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:28:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:28:52AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:28:53AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:28:54AM STATE YOUR NAME.
9:28:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:28:57AM BOBBY CREIGHTON.
9:29:00AM JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY COMMENT ON THE OPENING DISCUSSION YOU
9:29:04AM HAD THIS MORNING.
9:29:05AM I THINK EVERYBODY HAD SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS.
9:29:08AM IT'S CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE.
9:29:10AM AS SOMEBODY WHO WATCHES EVERY MEETING, WATCHES ALL THE CAC
9:29:14AM MEETINGS EVEN FOR CACs WHERE I DON'T LIVE, I'M ADDICTED TO
9:29:18AM IT.
9:29:18AM YOU MENTIONED AN EROSION OF TRUST OR NOT HAVING CLARITY.
9:29:22AM THAT'S ALREADY STARTED TO CASCADE BECAUSE WHEN I WATCH A
9:29:26AM MEETING AND A DEVELOPER COMES UP AND SAYS, HEY, THIS IS MY
9:29:30AM REQUEST AND NOBODY KNOWS HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS TO FUND IT,
9:29:33AM THAT'S A PROBLEM.
9:29:34AM OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A PROBLEM.
9:29:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, HOLD THE CLOCK, FOR ANYBODY TALKING
9:29:39AM OUT THERE, PLEASE DON'T SPEAK IN THE AUDIENCE WHILE FOLKS
9:29:41AM ARE TALKING OR WHILE YOU ARE IN HERE, IF THERE ARE
9:29:43AM CONVERSATIONS, LET'S HAVE THEM OUTSIDE.
9:29:45AM PLEASE.
9:29:45AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:29:47AM GO FOR IT.
9:29:47AM >> THANK YOU.
9:29:48AM SO I DO SUPPORT SORTING THIS OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
9:29:53AM IF A SPECIAL SESSION IS NECESSARY, I SAY GO FOR IT.
9:29:55AM THIS NEEDS TO BE CLEAR FOR OTHER PROJECTS COMING DOWN THE
9:29:58AM LINE.
9:29:59AM UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TWO ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND ONE OF
9:30:01AM THOSE FROM THE LAST MEETING, AND THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPER
9:30:06AM HAS BEEN PUT THROUGH THE MEAT GRINDER WITH THE PROCESS WITH
9:30:08AM UNCLEAR EXPECTATIONS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
9:30:12AM BUT I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF URBAN REWORX PROJECT.
9:30:17AM THINK ABOUT THE CONTEXT OF WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING
9:30:19AM TO OCCUR.
9:30:19AM WHAT IS AROUND THERE?
9:30:21AM PROSTITUTION, DRUG DEALING.
9:30:23AM THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF SEXUAL OFFENDERS IN THE COUNTY
9:30:28AM ALL CLUSTERED TOGETHER RIGHT THERE, RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS TO
9:30:31AM PUT A DEVELOPMENT.
9:30:32AM IF YOU ASK ME, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CRA TO INJECT
9:30:35AM FUNDS INTO A PART OF THE CITY WHERE IT'S NEEDED THE MOST.
9:30:40AM I DON'T KNOW ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY WHERE YOU HAVE ALL OF
9:30:42AM THOSE DIFFERENT FACTORS COMING TOGETHER TO MAKE A SITUATION
9:30:47AM QUITE THAT UNIQUE AND QUITE THAT UNFORTUNATE.
9:30:49AM SO I PERSONALLY DO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
9:30:54AM FUNDING THIS PROJECT SETS A STANDARD.
9:30:57AM IT SAYS GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO GO FIRST.
9:31:00AM WE SEE A PROBLEM, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE MONEY UP TO FIX IT.
9:31:04AM THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER PROJECTS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.
9:31:06AM THERE IS A PARTICULAR DEVELOPER ON NEBRASKA AVENUE, THEY ARE
9:31:10AM ASKING FOR ALL THE PROJECTS, UPWARDS OF $80 MILLION.
9:31:13AM THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
9:31:16AM IF THE CRA AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT CAN SAY, LOOK, WE'RE GOING
9:31:18AM TO PLANT THE SEED HERE BECAUSE IT'S DESPERATELY NEEDED,
9:31:23AM MAYBE PEOPLE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND
9:31:26AM SAY, OKAY, THE GOVERNMENT REALLY CARES ABOUT WHAT IS GOING
9:31:29AM ON HERE.
9:31:29AM A DEVELOPER WILLING TO STICK THEIR NECK OUT.
9:31:32AM EITHER HAVE TO BE CRAZY, OR DEEP CONVICTION TO INVEST IN
9:31:35AM THAT LOCATION.
9:31:37AM PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WHO SAY THAT, SEE THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS
9:31:39AM SUPPORTING THAT.
9:31:40AM YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE.
9:31:42AM YOU HAVE THOSE PRIVATE INVESTORS WHO SAY, OKAY, MAYBE I'LL
9:31:45AM GET ON BOARD WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS DOWN THE LINE
9:31:47AM ON NEBRASKA AVENUE BECAUSE WE SEE THAT THERE IS THE
9:31:50AM COMMITMENT.
9:31:51AM NOT ONLY FROM THE CRA BUT ALSO FROM SOMEBODY TAKING THAT
9:31:55AM STEP AND TO VENTURE INTO THIS TERRITORY.
9:31:57AM IN TERMS OF URBAN REWORX PROJECT -- OH, RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
9:32:04AM I'LL STOP THERE.
9:32:05AM THANK YOU.
9:32:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:32:06AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:32:07AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:32:08AM STATE YOUR NAME, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
9:32:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS.
9:32:16AM ALISON HEWITT, THIRD GENERATION RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA,
9:32:21AM BUSINESS OWNER, AND CANDIDATE FOR DISTRICT FIVE.
9:32:24AM LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
9:32:27AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT POLICY.
9:32:29AM ACCORDING TO THE POLICY, NO MORE THAN ONE MILLION DOLLARS
9:32:33AM SHOULD BE PAID FOR ONE CRA AREA AT ONE TIME.
9:32:36AM WHERE IN THE PACKET DO YOU ADDRESS THAT ISSUE?
9:32:39AM THE NEXT ONE IS RFP WAIVER.
9:32:41AM IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, IT MUST BE RFP
9:32:44AM WAIVER THAT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
9:32:46AM WHERE IS THAT IN THERE?
9:32:47AM ALSO, IF THERE IS A PROJECT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, IT
9:32:51AM REQUIRES A PROGRAM CHANGE BY THE BOARD.
9:32:53AM WHERE IS THAT IN THE AGENDA TODAY?
9:32:55AM DON'T PUT THESE GREAT PROJECTS IN JEOPARDY FOR A PROTEST
9:32:59AM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE POLICY AS WE MOVE THESE
9:33:03AM PROJECTS FORWARD.
9:33:03AM THE NEXT THING IS, ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY FOR
9:33:07AM TRANSPARENCY FOR THE COMMUNITY, EACH SUMMARY OF EACH PROJECT
9:33:11AM IS DIFFERENT.
9:33:12AM SO YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION AND TRY TO FIND OUT
9:33:15AM HOW MANY HOMES, WHAT IS THE AMI, HOW MUCH IS THE PROJECT.
9:33:18AM I REQUEST A CONSISTENT BREAKDOWN OF HOW YOU DESCRIBE THESE
9:33:23AM POLICIES -- I MEAN, THESE PROGRAMS, SO THAT THE COMMUNITY
9:33:25AM CAN FOLLOW AND NOT HAVE TO DIG INTO IT.
9:33:28AM I ALSO SAY, PLEASE DO A WORKSHOP BECAUSE WE NEED SOME
9:33:32AM CONSISTENCY.
9:33:33AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS PROVIDED TO YOU IN A
9:33:36AM FORMAL PROCESS.
9:33:37AM ALSO, NUMBER 4, WE HAVE THE REQUEST TO SUPPORT PERMITTING IN
9:33:43AM THE CRA.
9:33:44AM WANT TO SAY THERE ARE SOME GREAT CONCERNS BECAUSE THE EAST
9:33:47AM TAMPA OVERLAY WAS WORKED ON BY THE PEOPLE OF THE AREA, AND
9:33:51AM THERE ARE DEVELOPERS WHO GO IN WHO ARE EITHER NOT TOLD ABOUT
9:33:54AM THE OVERLAY OR TOLD TO JUST IGNORE THE OVERLAY OR IF THEY
9:33:58AM WANT TO USE THE OVERLAY, THEIR PROJECT IS PUSHED BACK TIME
9:34:01AM AND TIME AGAIN.
9:34:02AM SO THEIR PROJECTS ARE SLOWED DOWN.
9:34:04AM ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WE HAVE THE TREE TRIMMING IN
9:34:09AM THE BUDGET ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE HAVE ON COMMUNICATIONS AND
9:34:14AM OUTREACH ON YOUR BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR THE CRA, CENTRAL PARK,
9:34:18AM CHANNELSIDE, YBOR CITY, YBOR CITY TWO THAT HAS MONEY SET
9:34:22AM ASIDE FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE IT
9:34:25AM IN EAST TAMPA AND OTHER CRAs.
9:34:27AM WHY IS THAT THE CASE?
9:34:28AM I DID ASK THAT AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WAS TOLD WE'RE
9:34:31AM HIRING A FIRM TO DO THE OUTREACH.
9:34:33AM HOW ARE WE USING THE MONEY?
9:34:34AM FIRM TO DO THE OUTREACH OR TO GO TO SPECIFICALLY TO EACH ONE
9:34:38AM OF THOSE CRAs?
9:34:39AM ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT -- IT HAS BEEN
9:34:42AM REQUESTED TO PUSH BACK.
9:34:46AM NUMBER 6, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BANKS TO MAKE SURE
9:34:49AM WE CREATE A LINE OF CREDIT BECAUSE THERE ARE BUSINESSES IN
9:34:52AM OUR COMMUNITY WHO CANNOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE GRANTS AND
9:34:54AM WE NEED YOU TO BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE A WORKSHOP ON
9:34:58AM THAT.
9:34:59AM LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE THE CRPs.
9:35:02AM IT'S WHAT GOVERNS ALL THE CRAs.
9:35:04AM RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE HAVING CRPs THAT YOU'LL APPROVE, BUT
9:35:07AM WHERE IS THE UPDATE ON WHAT YOU DID FOR THE ORIGINAL CRPs?
9:35:10AM HOW WE KNOW WHERE WE GO?
9:35:12AM WAS IT EFFECTIVE?
9:35:13AM SPEND THE MONEY CORRECTLY?
9:35:15AM IF APPROVING CRPs THAT DO NOT ADDRESS THE PAST ACTIONS.
9:35:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:35:20AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:35:22AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:35:26AM >> HI.
9:35:27AM I'M RAY COKER.
9:35:29AM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT URBAN REWORX.
9:35:33AM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I MENTIONED WHEN I MOVED TO TAMPA
9:35:36AM I WAS DOING WORK FOR BALTIMORE, DOWNTOWN CONSULTING WORK,
9:35:40AM AND THEY TOLD ME ABOUT PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE CITY TO
9:35:45AM IMPROVE YBOR CITY AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YBOR CITY WAS.
9:35:50AM I WANT TO BE A PART OF IT A LITTLE BIT.
9:35:54AM SO I BOUGHT A PROPERTY ON 4th AND RE-DID THAT PROPERTY.
9:36:00AM MY FIRST RENTER WAS A SCHOOLTEACHER AT THE SCHOOL.
9:36:04AM IT WAS HER FIRST JOB.
9:36:07AM ENAMORED WITH THE IDEA OF WALKING ACROSS THE STREET TO THE
9:36:10AM SCHOOL.
9:36:11AM I REMEMBER SAYING TO HER I DON'T WANT TO RENT TO YOU BECAUSE
9:36:15AM I DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE FOR YOU TO BE HERE.
9:36:16AM OF COURSE, TODAY, I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT.
9:36:21AM BUT ALSO TODAY, I'M NOT SURE A BRAND-NEW TEACHER COULD
9:36:24AM AFFORD RENT THERE.
9:36:27AM I DID SOME OTHER THINGS IN MY SMALL WAY.
9:36:33AM I RAN A BUSINESS BOOT CAMP AT THE HILTON IN YBOR ONCE A
9:36:38AM MONTH FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS, AND I WOULD BRING IN PEOPLE
9:36:41AM FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
9:36:42AM OF COURSE, I LOVED TO TELL ABOUT THE HISTORY OF YBOR WHEN WE
9:36:46AM TALKED TO A RESTAURANT AT LUNCHTIME AND THE ARCHITECTURE.
9:36:51AM BUT FOR ME, ONE OF MY THINGS THAT I LIKE THE MOST ABOUT THE
9:36:55AM AREA IS DIVERSITY OF THE PEOPLE.
9:36:57AM I JUST LOVE THAT WHOLE PART OF IT.
9:37:01AM RIGHT NOW, I LIVE ON 19th STREET NEAR THE LITTLE BODEGA
9:37:09AM THERE.
9:37:09AM I JUST LOVE BEING ON MY PORCH AND WATCHING THE STREAM OF
9:37:14AM PEOPLE COME DOWN THAT STREET.
9:37:16AM THE BUSES OF KIDS.
9:37:17AM I LOVE THAT PART OF YBOR.
9:37:20AM TELL YOU A REAL QUICK STORY.
9:37:25AM KNOW WHO ARTHUR BROOKS IS.
9:37:28AM HE WRITES ON PUBLIC POLICY.
9:37:29AM HE WRITES ON HAPPINESS AND TEACHES VERY POPULAR CLASS AT
9:37:34AM HARVARD ON HAPPINESS.
9:37:35AM I HAVEN'T READ ANY OF HIS BOOKS, BUT I READ HIS MONTHLY
9:37:39AM ARTICLE THAT HE PUBLISHES IN THE ATLANTIC.
9:37:43AM I'M NOT RELIGIOUS, BUT HE IS A DEVOTE CATHOLIC.
9:37:47AM HE WAS WRITING THIS ONE ARTICLE ON THE SORT OF SOCIAL
9:37:51AM SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY AROUND HELPING PEOPLE THAT ARE POOR.
9:37:55AM HIS ARGUMENT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IF I REMEMBER IT
9:37:59AM CORRECTLY, REMEMBER, ALSO A STRONG CATHOLIC.
9:38:03AM HE SAID THAT THE SITUATION, IMBALANCED SITUATION THAT LEAVES
9:38:11AM UNHAPPINESS WHEN YOU HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE POOR OFTEN.
9:38:14AM HE SAYS, BUT IF YOU SET UP A SOCIAL EXCHANGE TYPE OF MODEL
9:38:20AM -- HE DIDN'T USE THAT TERM -- YOU KNOW, IT CAN MAKE EVERYONE
9:38:25AM QUITE HAPPY WITH A SITUATION.
9:38:26AM HE SAID FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE --
9:38:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE OUT OF TIME.
9:38:31AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:38:32AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:38:33AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
9:38:37AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:38:40AM I WANT TO SAY UHURU.
9:38:43AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
9:38:45AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
9:38:49AM FREEDOM.
9:38:49AM I THINK ABOUT OUR FREEDOM AND HOW IT'S CONNECTED TO 825
9:38:53AM YEARS, 52 GENERATIONS OF OPPRESSION, SUBJUGATION.
9:38:58AM ONE THING ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME PERSONALLY KNOWS I'M EASILY
9:39:01AM OFFENDED.
9:39:01AM I'M SO SENSITIVE.
9:39:05AM SO SENSITIVE SOME PEOPLE THINK I'M GAY SOMETIMES.
9:39:08AM I'M THAT SENSITIVE.
9:39:09AM I DON'T LIKE PERFUME, SIGNIFICANT GREAT SMOKE.
9:39:12AM I DON'T LIKE MARIJUANA SMOKE.
9:39:15AM I DON'T LIKE THE SMELL OF ALCOHOL.
9:39:16AM A LOT OF STUFF I DON'T LIKE.
9:39:18AM ANY ARTIFICIAL ODORS I DON'T LIKE.
9:39:21AM I'M THAT SENSITIVE.
9:39:23AM I'M SENSITIVE.
9:39:23AM AND I DON'T LIKE A MAN TALKING ABOUT RIGHT BEFORE I SPEAK
9:39:26AM TALKING ABOUT WHERE SOMEONE SAFE TO LIVE.
9:39:33AM IT'S OFFENSIVE.
9:39:36AM WHITE PEOPLE OFFEND YOU IN YOUR FACE AND THINK WE'RE TOO
9:39:39AM DUMB TO UNDERSTAND.
9:39:40AM 825 YEARS OF AFRICAN IGNORANCE.
9:39:44AM AFRICAN OPPRESSION.
9:39:46AM AFRICAN SUBJUGATION.
9:39:47AM WHEN I ATTEMPT TO ARTICULATE, I'M CUT OFF FROM THIS CITY
9:39:53AM COUNCIL.
9:39:53AM CAN'T TALK ABOUT REPARATIONS.
9:39:58AM CAN'T TALK ABOUT 26% OF THE BUDGET THAT DESERVE TO COME TO
9:40:02AM US, $2 BILLION BUDGET OR $1 BILLION BUDGET.
9:40:05AM WHEN THE BUDGET USED TO BE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
9:40:08AM WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT 26% OF IT COMING TO US, TO OUR HOOD.
9:40:12AM WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.
9:40:14AM HEY, SIT DOWN, NOT THAT, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
9:40:18AM WHEN YOU WALK INTO AUTO PARTS STORE SOMETIMES YOU CAN TELL
9:40:23AM HOW STUPID THE SALES PEOPLE ARE BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE
9:40:26AM TRYING TO BUY SOMETHING FOR YOUR CAR THAT IS DISABLED AND
9:40:30AM THEY ARE TRYING TO HUSTLE ON THE PHONE.
9:40:32AM TRYING TO TALK TO A PHONE CUSTOMER.
9:40:34AM THAT'S HOW STUPID THE CITY COUNCIL IS.
9:40:36AM PEOPLE STANDING IN LINE, BUT THE PEOPLE SITTING AT HOME,
9:40:40AM THEY GET TO GO FIRST.
9:40:42AM THAT'S HOW IGNORANT THE CITY COUNCIL IS.
9:40:44AM OH, YOU CAN'T CALL SOMEBODY BY THEIR NAME.
9:40:47AM WHAT IF THE F YOU ALL ARE, KINGS, QUEENS?
9:40:51AM I GUARANTEE I'M GOING TO JAIL BECAUSE I CALL EACH AND EVERY
9:40:55AM ONE OF YOU SCOUNDRELS BY YOUR NAME RIGHT HERE IN THIS CITY
9:40:58AM COUNCIL BUILDING.
9:40:59AM WATCH ME.
9:41:01AM WE GOING TO CHECK AND SEE WHAT LAW, WHAT CONSTITUTIONAL
9:41:05AM VIOLATION, WHAT STATUTE, WHAT CODE OF CONDUCT SOMEONE IS
9:41:11AM VIOLATING.
9:41:12AM MAN, YOU ALL ABOVE YOUR ALL SELVES.
9:41:16AM YOU DO NOTHING ABOVE YOUR ALL SELF.
9:41:19AM YOU ARE IGNORANT.
9:41:20AM ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY IGNORANT.
9:41:22AM AND YOU HAVE IGNORANT RULES AND IGNORANT REGULATIONS AND YOU
9:41:26AM LET WHITE FOLKS COME UP HERE AND OFFEND US AND THINK WE ARE
9:41:30AM SUPPOSED TO ACCEPT IT.
9:41:31AM F ALL YOU ALL.
9:41:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:41:34AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:41:35AM NEXT SPEAKER AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:41:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
9:41:45AM KIMBERLY SIMON.
9:41:46AM I'M A NEW DEVELOPER HERE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:41:49AM I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
9:41:53AM I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON A SMALL LIVE LOCAL AFFORDABLE
9:41:55AM HOUSING BUILD ON 30th STREET.
9:41:58AM I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE ABOUT YOUR PRIORITIES AND
9:42:02AM HOW MY WORK CAN ALIGN WITH THE COMMUNITY'S VISION.
9:42:05AM THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
9:42:06AM I HOPE TO ENGAGE WITH YOU FURTHER AS MY PROJECT MOVES
9:42:10AM FORWARD.
9:42:11AM THANK YOU.
9:42:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:42:13AM GOOD LUCK.
9:42:13AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:42:14AM NEXT, SIR.
9:42:17AM STATE YOUR NAME.
9:42:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:42:19AM MY NAME IS ISRAEL SEGARRA KNOWN AS IZZY.
9:42:25AM LIFELONG RESIDENT, RETIRED 26 YEARS FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA,
9:42:31AM WHICH INCLUDED NINE YEARS AS THE CONTRACTS MANAGER FOR
9:42:34AM HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WHERE I WAS INVOLVED WITH
9:42:36AM A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
9:42:40AM THEN WENT TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND DID ANOTHER TEN YEARS
9:42:42AM OVER THERE AS PROCUREMENT ANALYST FOR ALL THEIR AFFORDABLE
9:42:47AM HOUSING PROJECTS.
9:42:48AM I'M JUST HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE URBAN REWORX
9:42:54AM NEBRASKA AVENUE PROJECT.
9:42:56AM I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO MINUTIA BECAUSE YOU AS A DILIGENT
9:43:01AM CITY COUNCIL HAVE READ IT AND KNOW ALL THE GORY DETAILS.
9:43:06AM A LOT MORE THAN I WOULD.
9:43:07AM ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THIS IS A GOOD, VIABLE PROJECT FOR
9:43:13AM THIS COMMUNITY, FOR THIS AREA, FOR ITS RESIDENTS, AND I
9:43:19AM THINK GOT NOTHING BUT UP SIDE FOR IT AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE
9:43:23AM YOU AND IMPLORE YOU TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
9:43:26AM THANK YOU.
9:43:27AM AND HAVE A WONDERFUL MORNING.
9:43:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:43:30AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:43:31AM NEXT, MA'AM.
9:43:31AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:43:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:43:35AM KELLA McCASKILL, NATIVE, ADVOCATE, SERVANT IN THE DISTRICT
9:43:40AM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
9:43:42AM ONE OF SAID WE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ALL THIS WITH OTHER
9:43:46AM DEVELOPMENTS.
9:43:46AM YOU'RE RIGHT.
9:43:48AM WE ALSO WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA NORMALLY
9:43:52AM THAT'S BEEN IGNORED FOR 21 YEARS.
9:43:56AM THREE YEARS AGO, I CAME TO YOU AND SAID, WE NEED TO HAVE A
9:44:00AM PREDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
9:44:01AM WE NEED TO WRITE GRANTS BASED ON THE CRP.
9:44:05AM THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
9:44:06AM IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THEN.
9:44:08AM IT SLOW WALKED ALL THE WAY UNTIL THE DEVELOPERS CAME TO THE
9:44:12AM AREA.
9:44:12AM MANY OF THEM DON'T SPEND A TIME IN THIS DISTRICT.
9:44:15AM BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY.
9:44:18AM I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING OPEN TO DELAYING THE DECISION
9:44:25AM UNTIL EITHER, ONE, A DISTRICT FIVE REPRESENTATIVE OR, TWO,
9:44:29AM YOU'VE DONE THE WORKSHOP.
9:44:30AM SO I'M SAYING NONE OF THE REASONS YOU ALL MENTIONED, BUT
9:44:34AM SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE THAT
9:44:36AM REPRESENTS US, YOU DON'T.
9:44:37AM I MEAN, YOU HAVE SOME OF YOU THAT ARE CITYWIDE.
9:44:40AM I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SPECIFIC DESIGNATED SEAT THAT CAN
9:44:44AM SPEAK TO THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS THEY HAVE HEARD BEFORE YOU
9:44:47AM MAKE A DECISION ON FUNDING.
9:44:48AM I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION THAT CAN SHOW UP AND DO
9:44:51AM SOMETHING BASED ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S DESIRES AND IT FAST
9:44:56AM WALKS OVER ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT WOULD HELP THE PEOPLE IN
9:44:58AM THE AREA.
9:44:59AM I WILL SAY THAT IF YOU CAN'T WAIT, THEN YOU AT LEAST NEED TO
9:45:03AM HAVE A WORKSHOP.
9:45:04AM SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T FUND IT BECAUSE YOU FEEL YOU MAY LOSE THE
9:45:09AM COMMUNITY TRUST, YOU LOST THAT ALREADY.
9:45:11AM CAC SPEND THEIR HARD-EARNED TIME, DOLLARS, RESOURCES TO COME
9:45:14AM TO THE MEETINGS, MAKE DECISIONS AND YOU CHANGE IT WHEN THEY
9:45:17AM GET HERE.
9:45:18AM I'M GOING TO SAY YOU ALREADY LOST THAT.
9:45:19AM YOU MIGHT AS WELL START FRESH.
9:45:21AM LET'S SAY OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, BEING GOOD
9:45:25AM STEWARDS OF TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS, LET'S HAVE A WORKSHOP,
9:45:29AM SPECIAL SESSION, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BUT DO THAT.
9:45:33AM DID YOU SEE CREATIVE LOAFING?
9:45:35AM THE WAY THEY PAINT THE PICTURE, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE CLARITY
9:45:37AM ON YOUR OWN BUDGET.
9:45:38AM YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND YOUR OWN -- OR STAFF.
9:45:42AM I BELIEVE OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION YOU SHOULD ACT IN
9:45:45AM FAVOR OF WHAT'S RIGHT.
9:45:47AM DO THE SPECIAL WORKSHOP, WHATEVER SESSION, WHATEVER THAT IS,
9:45:50AM OR WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE REPRESENTATION IN THIS DISTRICT.
9:45:53AM I SUPPORT URBAN REWORX PROJECT.
9:45:56AM YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY?
9:45:58AM YOU KNEW IT WAS AN ISSUE BEFORE HE SHOWED UP.
9:46:00AM I TOLD YOU.
9:46:01AM I WAS THE DEVELOPER THAT SHOWED UP AND SAID I WANT TO FOLLOW
9:46:04AM THE CRP FROM 2004.
9:46:07AM I WANT TO BRING DEVELOPMENT HERE WORKING WITH PUBLIC,
9:46:10AM PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
9:46:11AM I BROUGHT YOU THE FAMILIES.
9:46:13AM I SHOWED YOU HOW IT WOULD WORK.
9:46:15AM YOU HAVE GOOD DEVELOPERS AND GCs ALREADY WORKING WITH THE
9:46:18AM CITY.
9:46:18AM YOU KNOW WHAT, SLOW WALKED.
9:46:20AM HE SHOWED UP.
9:46:21AM HE WAS ABLE TO USE HIS MONEY TO GET THROUGH PREDEVELOPMENT
9:46:24AM AND NOW HE'S HERE TODAY.
9:46:25AM I SUPPORT THE PROJECT BECAUSE WHATEVER ENERGY YOU HAVE FOR
9:46:28AM HIM, I WANT NOTHING LESS THAN THAT.
9:46:30AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
9:46:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:46:32AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:46:33AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:46:34AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:46:35AM >> HELLO.
9:46:36AM MY NAME IS APRIL McCULLOHS, GRACE CHURCH OUTREACH
9:46:41AM DIRECTOR.
9:46:42AM WE SERVE LOTS OF MEMBERS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
9:46:44AM I REGULARLY IN MY WORK MEET WITH FAMILIES WHO ARE NAVIGATING
9:46:49AM UNAFFORDABLE HOUSING, UNSTABLE HOUSING AND GETTING PRICED
9:46:52AM OUT OF THE PLACES THAT THEY LIVE, NOT BECAUSE OF SAFETY, BUT
9:46:56AM BECAUSE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS ARE OUT OF REACH.
9:46:59AM YEARS AGO WHEN I TAUGHT IN YBOR CITY, I SAW THE
9:47:02AM LONG-STANDING EFFECTS OF OUR HISTORICAL DISCRIMINATION, OF
9:47:06AM RED-LINING, OF STATE, FEDERAL, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT NOT
9:47:11AM INVESTING IN EAST TAMPA.
9:47:13AM AND I SAW THOSE DECISIONS, SOMETIMES IN THE FAMILIES THAT I
9:47:16AM SERVED, AND SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT THIS CONVERSATION IS BEING
9:47:20AM -- IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
9:47:21AM IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
9:47:23AM I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE URBAN REWORX DEVELOPMENT ON
9:47:26AM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
9:47:27AM I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT ISN'T JUST ABOUT AFFORDABLE
9:47:31AM HOUSING, BUT IT HIGHLIGHTS AND AUGMENTS THE RESILIENCE IN
9:47:35AM THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN THERE.
9:47:37AM IT PROVIDES AFFORDABLE, WALKABLE HOUSING, IT REFLECTS THE
9:47:40AM CHARACTER OF YBOR, AND EXPANDS OPPORTUNITY FOR WORKING
9:47:43AM FAMILIES AND SMALL BUSINESSES.
9:47:45AM URBAN REWORX HAS SHOWN A COMMITMENT TO LISTENING, LEARNING,
9:47:49AM COLLABORATING WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS
9:47:51AM EXACTLY THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT TAMPA NEEDS.
9:47:54AM I FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN ME.
9:47:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:47:58AM CRAIG ALTMAN AND DEBBIE ALTMAN WERE MY NEIGHBORS GROWING UP.
9:48:04AM >> I WORK WITH BRENT.
9:48:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW BRENT.
9:48:07AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:48:08AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:48:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:48:10AM JIM McCARTHY, 1370 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE.
9:48:14AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING BECAUSE I FELT COMPELLED AS A BUILDER
9:48:19AM TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
9:48:22AM I DON'T KNOW CHAD PERSONALLY, BUT FROM WHAT I SAW HIM, HIS
9:48:26AM PRESENTATION TO THE BARRIO LATINO, HIS STAFF, EVERYTHING
9:48:30AM FROM INSTAGRAM TO EVERYTHING, IT IS -- I THINK IT'S GOING TO
9:48:34AM BE TRANSFORMATIONAL.
9:48:36AM I KNOW THAT WORD IS USED TOO OFTEN IN DEVELOPMENT ABOUT
9:48:40AM TRANSFORMATIONAL, BUT IF YOU LOOK ON THE GROUND OF THE REAL
9:48:44AM ESTATE, OF THIS LOCATION AND YOU TAKE FLORIBRASKA TO
9:48:47AM NEBRASKA AND WALK DOWN MITCHELL, IF THERE'S EVER A POCKET
9:48:50AM THAT NEEDS SOME LOVE, IT'S THIS.
9:48:53AM AND THIS WILL BE TRANSFORMATIONAL.
9:48:58AM I'M A FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP BUILDER, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
9:49:02AM ATTAINABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER RENTAL OR OWNERSHIP,
9:49:05AM IT'S ABOUT SAFETY.
9:49:07AM AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED HERE.
9:49:10AM JUST DOING MY LITTLE DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS COMPANY, I FEEL
9:49:14AM THAT THEY GOT THE COMMUNITY BEST AT HEART.
9:49:19AM I WENT TO INSTAGRAM.
9:49:21AM WE ALL GO TO INSTAGRAM.
9:49:22AM URBAN REWORX, WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS A GREAT NAME.
9:49:26AM BUT I FOUND URBAN 360 WHICH IS A PROGRAM THAT WE DID, MY
9:49:31AM COMPANY WAS THE BIGGEST PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP IN THE
9:49:34AM CITY'S HISTORY.
9:49:35AM WE DID A HUNDRED HOMES WITH TWO NOT FOR PROFITS, HABITAT FOR
9:49:38AM HUMANITY, CDC, AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL.
9:49:41AM BUT IT WAS SUCCESSFUL BUT THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS
9:49:46AM SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH OUTREACH.
9:49:48AM SO THERE'S GOT TO BE BETTER COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN COMMUNITY
9:49:52AM AND HOME BUILDING.
9:49:55AM STATISTICS SPEAK FOR ITSELF.
9:49:57AM URBAN 360 PROGRAM, OVER 90% OF OUR RESIDENTS, 90, HUNDRED
9:50:02AM HOMES, AFRICAN AMERICAN.
9:50:04AM CLOSE TO 90% ALREADY LIVING WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE
9:50:08AM CRA.
9:50:09AM SO MISINFORMATION OUT THERE AND THE Facebook CHATTER,
9:50:13AM NEGATIVITY, THESE GUYS LOOK TO -- I DON'T GET, LIKE IZZY
9:50:18AM SAID, THE MINUTIA OF THE DETAILS, BUT YOU HAVE A CRA STAFF
9:50:22AM THAT IS THE BEST.
9:50:23AM I MEAN, THE BEST.
9:50:24AM I HAVE FULL FAITH IN THIS.
9:50:26AM I HOPE YOU SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
9:50:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:50:30AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:50:31AM PASTOR FRANK, ARE YOU IN LINE?
9:50:33AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:50:45AM >> MY NAME IS JOHN DINGER.
9:50:47AM CEO FOR WELL BUILT CITIES.
9:50:50AM WE'VE BEEN KNOWN HISTORICALLY -- WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR OVER
9:50:54AM 20 YEARS WITH HOMELESS AND WORKING POOR FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE
9:50:58AM CITY.
9:50:58AM WE HAVE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY THE KIND OF DEVASTATING
9:51:01AM IMPACT OF GENTRIFICATION AND DEVELOPMENT, LIKE OVER TIME
9:51:06AM HERE.
9:51:06AM SO MANY OF THE FOLKS, IN FACT, SO MUCH OF OUR WORK IS NOW
9:51:09AM TAKING PLACE IN UNIVERSITY AREA BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE
9:51:12AM NEIGHBORS WE KNEW WHEN WE WERE HEADQUARTERED RIGHT HERE HAVE
9:51:15AM BEEN PUSHED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.
9:51:17AM SO WHEN I STARTED HEARING ABOUT THE REWORX AFFORDABLE
9:51:24AM HOUSING, I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS
9:51:27AM AROUND IT TOO, TO BE HONEST, WE'VE SEEN PROPERTY VALUES IN
9:51:32AM EAST TAMPA SKYROCKET.
9:51:33AM I REMEMBER NOT 15 YEARS AGO, I WAS WORKING A NONPROFIT
9:51:37AM BUYING HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO FOR THEIR PROGRAM,
9:51:39AM RESIDENTS.
9:51:40AM THERE WERE 25 -- THEY WERE 25K A POP BACK THEN.
9:51:45AM CAN'T FIND ANYTHING UNDER A QUARTER MILLION NOW.
9:51:47AM THAT'S OVER 15 YEARS.
9:51:49AM SOME LEVEL, IT'S ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.
9:51:51AM WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE DISPLACEMENT.
9:51:52AM HEARD US TALK ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP MODEL WOULD BE BETTER.
9:51:55AM THAT'S TRUE.
9:51:56AM THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
9:51:57AM BUT WHERE IS IT HAPPENING AND HOW IS IT HAPPENING?
9:51:59AM A PROJECT LIKE THIS, AN INVESTMENT LIKE THIS, STARTED
9:52:02AM THINKING ABOUT 5 MILLION, SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY.
9:52:05AM HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST.
9:52:07AM OVER A 50-YEAR LOOKUP ON 80%, HEARD A RECENT PROPOSAL
9:52:11AM INCLUDED UNITS AT 50% AND 30% AMI IN RESPONSE TO REQUESTS
9:52:16AM FROM THE COMMUNITY.
9:52:17AM THAT'S LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO LOCK UP 20
9:52:21AM UNITS FOR 50 YEARS.
9:52:23AM THAT IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR ON 20 UNITS.
9:52:26AM $5,000 A UNIT FOR 50 YEARS, THAT'S AN -- THAT TO ME SEEMS
9:52:32AM LIKE A SMART USE OF FUNDS TO LOCK THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S
9:52:36AM INEVITABLE AS WE SEE THIS TIDE RAISING.
9:52:40AM PEOPLE ARE DISPLACED LEFT AND RIGHT.
9:52:42AM WHATEVER MODEL WE CAN COME UP WITH TO SECURE HOUSING, SECURE
9:52:47AM ATTAINABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, LIKE OUR
9:52:50AM WORKING CLASS NEIGHBORS, THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED TO STAY
9:52:54AM AND REMAIN PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE'VE GOT TO INNOVATE.
9:52:57AM WE'VE GOT TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES.
9:52:59AM OH, ONLY 20 UNITS, BUT POTENTIALLY A MODEL.
9:53:01AM WHAT IF WE FIGURE THIS OUT.
9:53:03AM WHAT IF WE COULD DO INFILL ALL OVER THE CITY?
9:53:06AM WHAT IF WE COULD RETAIN OUR NEIGHBORS AND NOT JUST SEE
9:53:09AM CONSTANT DISPLACEMENT.
9:53:10AM HONESTLY, EVEN FOR ME, I BENEFITED FROM THE FIRST-TIME HOME
9:53:13AM BUYER PROGRAM THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:53:15AM I WENT THROUGH THAT AND IT WAS LIKE, I'M COLLEGE EDUCATED,
9:53:18AM FULL-TIME EMPLOYED.
9:53:19AM I THINK I MIGHT BE THE POOREST PERSON THAT PROGRAM COULD
9:53:22AM POSSIBLY HELP.
9:53:22AM IT ALMOST KILLED ME GETTING IN THIS HOUSE.
9:53:24AM THAT WAS BEFORE COVID, WHICH THE NUMBERS ARE ASTRONOMICALLY
9:53:28AM GREATER SINCE 2019 WHEN I WAS ABLE TO GET IN.
9:53:31AM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A PERFECT PROJECT, PERFECT
9:53:34AM INVESTMENT, I JUST THINK WE'VE GOT TO TRY.
9:53:36AM WE GOT TO DO WHAT WE CAN.
9:53:38AM I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO TAKE THIS INVESTMENT
9:53:41AM SERIOUSLY.
9:53:42AM TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE A SMART PLAY FOR LONG-TERM SECURITY ON
9:53:47AM WORKING CLASS HOUSING.
9:53:49AM THANK YOU.
9:53:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:53:50AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:53:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:53:55AM ERNEST CONEY JUNIOR.
9:53:57AM CEO OF THE CDC OF TAMPA.
9:53:59AM WANT TO COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF LINE ITEM 7, 8, 9.
9:54:03AM 7 IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE NEED TO INCREASE HOME OWNERSHIP IN
9:54:06AM EAST TAMPA.
9:54:06AM WE NEED TO SET A GOAL AND WE AS CRAs, CITY OF TAMPA,
9:54:10AM EVERYONE.
9:54:11AM WE NEED TO GET TO 75% HOME OWNERSHIP RATES IN EAST TAMPA.
9:54:14AM THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US, AND ALSO 9.
9:54:16AM THINK ABOUT HURRICANE SEASON COMING, A LOT OF TREES FALL
9:54:19AM DOWN ON THESE HOMES AND THEN IT'S LIKE TO GET TO FEMA AND
9:54:23AM INSURANCE DOESN'T COVER THINGS.
9:54:24AM THE SPECIFIC PROGRAM TO THINK ABOUT THE ELDERLY, IF TREES
9:54:29AM NEAR HOMES, HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE THOSE, ESPECIALLY DURING
9:54:32AM HURRICANE SEASON.
9:54:33AM COMES TO NUMBER 8, WE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS.
9:54:36AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER TODAY.
9:54:38AM I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE EVALUATE
9:54:41AM THESE PROGRAMS.
9:54:42AM TWO THINGS I DEFINITELY BELIEVE IN, NUMBER ONE, ARE THEY
9:54:45AM TRANSFORMATIVE?
9:54:46AM WE HEARD ABOUT DRUG ACCESS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
9:54:49AM TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE
9:54:52AM FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE COMMERCE IN EAST TAMPA?
9:54:55AM HOUSING IS PHASE ONE.
9:54:57AM BEHIND IT ALSO COMES COMMERCIAL WHICH WILL HAVE UNIVERSITY
9:54:59AM OF SOUTH FLORIDA, ACC AND CDC OF TAMPA CREATING A FAB LAB TO
9:55:04AM SUPPORT THE SMALL MANUFACTURING BUSINESSES.
9:55:06AM WE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGING PEOPLE.
9:55:08AM WE HAVE TO HAVE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS IN EAST TAMPA.
9:55:12AM WE HAVE TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE WHAT WE'RE DOING IN EAST
9:55:15AM TAMPA.
9:55:16AM THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF IT.
9:55:17AM I DEFINITELY BELIEVE WE NEED TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS, FIGURE
9:55:20AM THIS OUT, WE NEED TO DO THAT.
9:55:22AM MY GREATEST ISSUE I HAVE FOR THE FUN-LAN THEATER, I LOVE WE
9:55:27AM HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING FROM A
9:55:30AM COMMUNITY BENEFITS STANDPOINT.
9:55:31AM I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY RESIDENTS IN ONE OF THE LOWEST
9:55:34AM HOUSEHOLD INCOMES HAVE GOTTEN JOBS ON THAT PROJECT.
9:55:37AM I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY BLACK SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE GOTTEN
9:55:39AM OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP ON THAT BECAUSE WE GAVE THEM MONEY
9:55:42AM AND WE GOT EXCITED ABOUT THE HOUSING.
9:55:44AM WHEN WE STARTED EVALUATING THE PROJECTS, WE NEED TO THINK
9:55:46AM ABOUT THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY
9:55:50AM DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
9:55:51AM HOW MANY JOBS WILL IT CREATE?
9:55:52AM WHAT IS THE ECONOMIC AND COMMERCE IT WILL CHANGE AND HOW DO
9:55:56AM YOU FUNDAMENTALLY HELP TO TRANSFORM THESE AREAS?
9:55:59AM THOSE ARE SOME OF THE REASONS THAT I'M APPROVING THOSE 7, 8,
9:56:04AM 9.
9:56:04AM HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THIS GREAT WORK AND FIGURE
9:56:07AM THIS OUT AS A COMMUNITY.
9:56:08AM WE HAVE TO PULL IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
9:56:11AM PEOPLE COME INTO EAST TAMPA.
9:56:13AM PEOPLE LEAVE EAST TAMPA.
9:56:14AM IF WE DON'T LEAVE A LEGACY THAT FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMS
9:56:17AM EAST TAMPA TO BE A BETTER CITY, ULTIMATELY OUR GOAL IS, CAN
9:56:20AM WE HAVE A TRANSITION IN THE CITY.
9:56:23AM DRIVE OUT OF YBOR, EAST TAMPA, 22nd STREET, YOU CAN FEEL
9:56:27AM AND TASTE THE DIFFERENCE.
9:56:29AM HOW DO WE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THAT?
9:56:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:56:32AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:56:33AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:56:34AM STATE YOUR NAME.
9:56:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:56:39AM MY NAME IS SCHLET DAVIS.
9:56:41AM I LEAD A SMALL NONPROFIT CALLED LOVE INC., LOVE IN THE NAME
9:56:47AM OF CHRIST.
9:56:48AM IT IS OUR MISSION TO MOBILIZE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES IN ORDER TO
9:56:52AM TRANSFORM LIVES AND COMMUNITIES IN THE NAME OF CHRIST.
9:56:55AM I WANT TO SPEAK TODAY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF URBAN REWORX,
9:56:59AM THAT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
9:57:00AM LOVE INC. RUNS A SMALL VOLUNTEER-LED HELP CENTER IN DOWNTOWN
9:57:07AM TAMPA.
9:57:08AM WHEN I STARTED IN THIS ROLE TWO YEARS AGO IN 2023, THE
9:57:13AM AVERAGE NUMBER OF REQUESTS WAS 40 PER MONTH.
9:57:16AM THAT SAME SUMMER, OUR REQUESTS SKYROCKETED TO 65.
9:57:22AM LAST MONTH ALONE, WE HAD 85 REQUESTS FOR HELP.
9:57:25AM LARGE MAJORITY OF THOSE REQUESTS ARE FOR HOUSING.
9:57:28AM LOVING DOESN'T HAVE HOUSING.
9:57:31AM WE HAVE RESOURCES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY OUR CHURCH PARTNERS.
9:57:35AM TEN OF THOSE REQUESTS CAME FROM OUR CHURCH PARTNERS.
9:57:40AM 48 FROM INDIVIDUALS, LIKE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
9:57:43AM AND 62 CAME FROM AGENCIES, MUCH LARGER THAN LOVE INC.
9:57:50AM SO WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND WE ARE SEEING THE HUMAN
9:57:56AM TOLL OF THIS CRISIS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
9:57:58AM THE LAST SIX MONTHS, I WORKED WITH AT LEAST THREE SUICIDAL
9:58:02AM GUESTS.
9:58:03AM THAT'S WHAT WE CALL OUR CLIENTS.
9:58:04AM PEOPLE CRUSHED BY HOUSING INSTABILITY THAT THEY HAVE LOST
9:58:08AM HOPE.
9:58:09AM PEOPLE LIKE DALE, A FORMER POLICE OFFICER WHO NEVER IMAGINED
9:58:14AM NEEDING HELP.
9:58:15AM HE SENT ME A SUICIDE LETTER.
9:58:16AM JIMMY, A BELOVED SHOE-SHINE GUY FORMERLY WORKING AT THE
9:58:21AM OXFORD EXCHANGE.
9:58:23AM FINALLY GOT JIMMY HOUSING.
9:58:27AM A SINGLE MOM OF TWO BOYS, ONE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS WHO
9:58:29AM RECEIVED RENTAL ASSISTANCE ONLY TO LOSE HER JOB LITERALLY
9:58:33AM THE NEXT WEEK.
9:58:34AM WE'RE HELPING GUESTS LIKE GLORIA WHO WORKS FULL-TIME AT $15
9:58:38AM AN HOUR AND STILL UNABLE TO MAKE RENT.
9:58:41AM AND JUST RECENTLY WE GOT A REQUEST FROM JAY, A SMALL
9:58:46AM BUSINESS OWNER, WHO WAS REFERRED TO US BY A LEADER AT THE
9:58:50AM CDC.
9:58:50AM AND JUST LAST WEEK, PAULA, OVERWHELMED BY HER HOUSING
9:58:56AM SEARCH, ATTEMPTED TO THROW HERSELF IN ONCOMING TRAFFIC ON
9:59:00AM FLORIDA AVENUE.
9:59:01AM ALL BECAUSE OF SEARCHING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:59:04AM URBAN REWORX PROJECT IS NOT JUST ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT.
9:59:07AM IT'S A LIFELINE.
9:59:08AM IT TELLS PEOPLE LIKE AT THAT KEACIA, GLORIA, JIMMY, THAT THE
9:59:13AM COMMUNITY SEES THEM AND VALUES THEM.
9:59:15AM NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE VM YBOR AND EAST TAMPA ARE WORTH
9:59:18AM INVESTING IN AND LONGTIME RESIDENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO REMAIN
9:59:22AM HERE.
9:59:22AM I URGE YOU, PLEASE, GIVE YOUR CITIZENS A FIGHTING CHANCE.
9:59:26AM FULLY FUND THIS URBAN REWORX PROJECT AND KEEP TAMPANIANS IN
9:59:32AM TAMPA.
9:59:32AM THANK YOU.
9:59:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:59:33AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:59:34AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:59:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
9:59:40AM FYI, FOR THOSE THAT BOUGHT HOUSES OVER IN YBOR CITY, LIVE IN
9:59:46AM THAT AREA, WALK THAT AREA, IF YOU THINK THAT IS THE ONLY
9:59:50AM AREA THAT'S DEALING WITH PROSTITUTION, YOU GOT ANOTHER THING
9:59:53AM COMING.
9:59:54AM MAYBE YOU NEED TO TRY BAYSHORE AND DOWNTOWN WHERE UPSCALE
9:59:57AM WORKERS WORK AT.
9:59:58AM I THINK IT'S VERY OFFENSIVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DESCRIBE THE
10:00:02AM NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH THEY WANT THE RESOURCES BY PUTTING THE
10:00:05AM PEOPLE DOWN.
10:00:06AM IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE NEVER MOVED THERE.
10:00:08AM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
10:00:09AM NUMBER TWO, IT IS PAINFUL ALSO TO SEE NOW ALL OF THESE
10:00:13AM ALLIES THAT LOVE YBOR CITY AND WANT THE AREA TO BE IMPROVED,
10:00:19AM 20 YEARS AGO, GOT NOT ONE OF THEIR WHITE VOICES TO STAND
10:00:23AM WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN EAST TAMPA WHEN WE HAVE BEEN
10:00:26AM TRYING TO ELIMINATE BLIGHT AND SLUM IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:00:31AM HELP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE FROM GOING INTO THE WRATH OF THE
10:00:36AM CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
10:00:37AM NOW WHAT THEY WANT IS WHAT YOU WANT.
10:00:41AM IF IT WASN'T WHAT YOU WANTED, WHEN THE CAC SAID GIVE THEM $2
10:00:45AM MILLION, YOU WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED THAT.
10:00:48AM BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:00:49AM THOSE INFORMED PEOPLE KNEW WHAT THEY HAD IN THEIR BUDGET.
10:00:53AM THEY KNEW HOW THEY WANTED TO STRETCH THE DOLLARS.
10:00:56AM THEY KNEW HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE THEY WANT TO HELP.
10:00:58AM BUT NOT YOU.
10:01:01AM $5 MILLION BECAUSE WE GOT TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.
10:01:04AM TAKE A BOND OUT.
10:01:05AM ASK THE MAYOR TO BOND THESE PEOPLE SO THEY CAN GET WHAT THEY
10:01:08AM WANT.
10:01:09AM NO, OFF THE BACKS OF POOR PEOPLE.
10:01:11AM THEY ARE IMPOVERISHED.
10:01:14AM PEOPLE THAT NOW CANNOT EVEN GET A HOUSE IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:01:17AM YOU KNOW WHY?
10:01:18AM THE HOUSES HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
10:01:21AM I BELIEVE IT IS A WELL-DESIGNED PLAN THAT MANY POOR BLACK
10:01:27AM PEOPLE WON'T END UP LIVING IN EAST TAMPA.
10:01:30AM WE ARE BEING FORCED OUT, AND QUEEN AND KING'S KINGDOM MAKING
10:01:37AM IT -- I ALSO FEEL AWFULLY OFFENDED THAT YOU ALL DON'T
10:01:41AM REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS, BUT YOU'RE READY TO GO THERE THIS
10:01:44AM MORNING.
10:01:45AM YOU'RE READY TO VOTE ON THAT THIS MORNING.
10:01:48AM WE NEED A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE.
10:01:51AM UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF OUR COUNCILPERSON,
10:01:55AM IS WE ARE NOW TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
10:02:00AM YOU NEED TO SLOW THIS SHIP DOWN.
10:02:03AM BECAUSE, YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS COMING, BUT NOW
10:02:06AM WE ARE OPERATING FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED.
10:02:10AM HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN THEY GET UP HERE TO PLEAD THEIR CASE?
10:02:13AM NO URBAN REWORX, ASK THEM TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THEIR PLAN
10:02:18AM AND SEE IF THEY CAN GET SOME HOUSING, SECTION 8 FUNDING AND
10:02:21AM ALL OF THAT AND BRING THE NUMBERS DOWN, WHO IS GOING TO BE
10:02:24AM THE WATCHDOG?
10:02:25AM YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING YOUR OWN POLICIES.
10:02:28AM YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU THINK IS FEASIBLE FOR YOUR OWN
10:02:30AM POLITICAL FUTURE, BUT YOU BETTER WATCH OUT.
10:02:34AM YOU BETTER WATCH OUT.
10:02:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:02:38AM GO AHEAD, MS. BULLOCK.
10:02:40AM STATE YOUR NAME IF YOU DON'T MIND.
10:02:41AM BEFORE YOU BEGIN SPEAKING, OTHER THAN PASTOR FRANK, IF
10:02:45AM YOU'RE SPEAKING AND YOU'RE SITTING AND YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING,
10:02:49AM CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND?
10:02:51AM OKAY.
10:02:53AM WE'LL GET YOU ALL.
10:02:54AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET IN LINE UNTIL YOU WANT TO.
10:02:57AM JUST MAKING SURE.
10:02:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:02:59AM VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON, COLLEGE HILL.
10:03:03AM THIS RIGHT HERE WAS THE FIRST RENDITION OF THE YBOR, VM YBOR
10:03:08AM APARTMENTS.
10:03:09AM IT WAS FOUR STORIES HIGH AND SUPPOSED TO BE 30 APARTMENTS.
10:03:13AM THAT GOT CHANGED WHEN THE BARRIO LATINO COMMITTEE GOT
10:03:18AM INVOLVED.
10:03:18AM THIS IS CASA MACEO, THE MAN, BORN, RAISED, DIED, BURIED IN
10:03:25AM CUBA, NEVER BEEN TO EAST TAMPA, YBOR CITY, OR TAMPA.
10:03:29AM WHAT DO WE DO?
10:03:30AM WE BUILD APARTMENTS ON 22nd STREET AND COLUMBUS DRIVE, WE
10:03:35AM NAME THEM CASA MACEO, AND HE AIN'T NEVER DID NOTHING.
10:03:40AM WHO CARES ABOUT HIM?
10:03:40AM HE'S IN CUBA.
10:03:42AM WE HAD SOME BLACK PEOPLE IN TAMPA WHO NAME SHOULD HAVE WENT
10:03:45AM UP THERE.
10:03:46AM IT'S IN A BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:03:48AM YBOR CITY GETS TO FLOURISH OFF THE PAIN AND GENTRIFICATION
10:03:54AM OF BLACK PEOPLE.
10:03:55AM NO.
10:03:55AM ONE OF THE NICEST GUYS I MET, BUT THIS IS TAMPA AIRPORT.
10:04:05AM IT SAYS THE CIGAR MUSEUM.
10:04:08AM IT SAYS YBOR CITY.
10:04:10AM BUT THEY CAME TO EAST TAMPA AND GOT $5 MILLION.
10:04:13AM WITH THE GASWORX, HE STILL OVER THERE ON BAYSHORE.
10:04:26AM AND BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, THEY ARE OVER IT.
10:04:30AM THEY ARE SAYING WHAT YOU CAN BUILD, HOW YOU CAN BUILD IT,
10:04:32AM THE COLOR YOU CAN PAINT IT.
10:04:34AM GUESS WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM, EAST TAMPA CRA.
10:04:37AM THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
10:04:42AM IF WE GOT MONEY FOR DEVELOPERS, WE NEED TO HAVE MONEY FOR
10:04:44AM THE HOMEOWNERS.
10:04:46AM WE GOT TO MOVE FUNDS FROM HERE.
10:04:48AM MOVE FUNDS FROM THERE TO REALLOCATE THE TREE TRIMMING
10:04:53AM PROGRAM.
10:04:54AM THE TREE TRIMMING PROGRAM NEVER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN BROKE.
10:04:57AM WE NEED TO STOP BEING THE LAUGHINGSTOCK EVERYBODY COMES
10:05:01AM DOWNTOWN.
10:05:01AM FIRST THEY GO TO EAST TAMPA CRA.
10:05:03AM EAST TAMPA CRA SAY, NO, WE'LL OVERRIDE THEM.
10:05:07AM WE'LL GO DOWNTOWN TO CITY COUNCIL.
10:05:09AM WE NEED TO STOP THAT.
10:05:10AM WHEN YOU CAN HAVE $5 MILLION HOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I
10:05:16AM NEED A ROOF, LADY NEXT DOOR KITCHEN FLOOR GONE, THAT'S NOT
10:05:21AM WHAT THE CRA FUNDS WERE MEANT FOR.
10:05:23AM WE NEED TO SEE A CHART EVERY MONTH.
10:05:26AM CRA FUNDS, WHERE DID THE MONEY GO, TO THE BUSINESS OWNER, TO
10:05:30AM THE DEVELOPERS.
10:05:31AM HOW MUCH WENT TO THE RESIDENTS?
10:05:33AM BECAUSE APPARENTLY WE ARE NOT GETTING NOTHING EXCEPT
10:05:39AM BAMBOOZLED BY DEVELOPERS.
10:05:41AM EVERYBODY WANT TO COME IN EAST TAMPA AND BUILD, BUILD,
10:05:44AM BUILD, BUT THEY SAY THEY DON'T HAVE NO MONEY.
10:05:47AM THE MONEY HAVE TO COME FROM EAST TAMPA CRA.
10:05:49AM NOW, IT'S A SHAME WE HAVE TO GO IN THE TREE TRIMMING FUND OR
10:05:54AM GO TO THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT GAS WORKS
10:05:59AM GETS MONEY.
10:05:59AM THEY MIGHT NEED TO GO BACK TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO GET IT.
10:06:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:06:04AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:06:08AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:06:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
10:06:11AM TONY BROWN.
10:06:12AM I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA BAY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
10:06:17AM COUNCIL.
10:06:17AM WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT ITEM NUMBER 8.
10:06:22AM IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT A PROJECT TO BUILD HOUSING, IT'S ABOUT A
10:06:25AM PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO INVIGORATE EAST TAMPA AND THE EAST
10:06:29AM TAMPA INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
10:06:30AM ACTUALLY, EAST TAMPA IS THE FIRST PHASE OF THE LIVE LEARN
10:06:37AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:06:37AM WE THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIDENCE YOU'VE PUT IN US IN TERMS OF
10:06:40AM ALLOWING THE LAND TO ALLOW THIS PROJECT AND THE EAST TAMPA
10:06:44AM INNOVATION CENTER TO BE BUILT.
10:06:47AM SINCE 2022, THE EDC HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN EAST TAMPA.
10:06:52AM WE COMPLETED A PLAN TO LOOK AT HOW CAN WE INVIGORATE THE
10:06:57AM BUSINESSES IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ALONG COLUMBUS DRIVE
10:07:01AM BETWEEN 32nd AND 43rd STREET.
10:07:04AM THIS IS ONE OF MANY PROJECTS THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED TO HELP
10:07:07AM INVIGORATE THAT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
10:07:10AM EAST TAMPA WORKS REPORT WAS A REPORT COMMISSIONED BY THE
10:07:14AM EDC, AND WE PRESENTED THAT REPORT TO THE CRA STAFF AND IT IS
10:07:20AM CONSISTENT WITH THE EAST TAMPA STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, AND IT
10:07:23AM IS THE GUIDING LIGHT FOR OUR INVESTMENT IN ACTIVITIES IN THE
10:07:27AM EAST TAMPA INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
10:07:29AM EAST TAMPA IS CATALYTIC TO THE EAST TAMPA WORKS PLAN.
10:07:36AM ASHLEY EAST TAMPA IS PHASE ONE OF THE LIVE LEARN
10:07:40AM DEVELOPMENT.
10:07:41AM ASHLEY EAST TAMPA WILL PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEXT TO A
10:07:46AM TRAINING FACILITY TO PROVIDE FOR HIGH WAGE, HIGH DEMAND
10:07:51AM EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES PRESENTED BY SOME OF OUR TOP
10:07:55AM ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS IN THE REGION.
10:07:57AM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, HILLSBOROUGH COLLEGE, AND THE
10:08:00AM CDC OF TAMPA.
10:08:02AM ASHLEY EAST TAMPA IS 100% AFFORDABLE.
10:08:06AM HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE UNITS WILL HAVE INCOME RESTRICTIONS
10:08:09AM BENEFITING HOUSEHOLDS EARNING LESS THAN $55,000.
10:08:13AM ASHLEY EAST TAMPA WILL HAVE 68%, SET ASIDE 68% OF ITS UNITS
10:08:19AM THAT WOULD BENEFIT A HOUSEHOLD INCOME EARNING LESS THAN
10:08:25AM $44,000.
10:08:26AM THE CRA INVESTMENT AT $82,000 A UNIT WILL BE LEVERAGED BY
10:08:33AM INTEGRAL OF 3.5 TIMES.
10:08:36AM WHEN YOU ADD THE INVESTMENT TO BE MADE IN THE ECONOMIC
10:08:41AM DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT, YOUR INVESTMENT GETS LEVERAGED 6.5
10:08:45AM TIMES.
10:08:46AM WE COMMIT TO YOU THAT THE EDC, THIS IS NOT A ONE AND DONE
10:08:50AM PROJECT FOR US.
10:08:50AM WE ARE COMMITTED NOT ONLY TO THE ENTIRE REGION, BUT WE ARE
10:08:54AM COMMITTED TO EAST TAMPA.
10:08:55AM ASHLEY EAST TAMPA, AS I MENTIONED IS PHASE ONE OF THE LIVE
10:08:59AM LEARN DEVELOPMENT.
10:09:00AM THE LIVE LEARN DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDED TO INVIGORATE THE
10:09:03AM EAST TAMPA INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
10:09:05AM WE'RE NOT ONE AND DONE.
10:09:06AM WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO MORE.
10:09:08AM EAST TAMPA HAS THE HIGHEST RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT.
10:09:10AM HAS THE HIGHEST RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND HIGHEST RATES
10:09:13AM OF --
10:09:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:09:15AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:09:16AM NEXT, PLEASE, MA'AM.
10:09:17AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:09:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:09:25AM MY NAME IS BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:09:28AM I LIVE IN BRANDON, FLORIDA, WHICH IS A PART OF HILLSBOROUGH
10:09:32AM COUNTY, SUCH AS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:09:36AM I WAS BORN AND RAISED RIGHT HERE IN HYDE PARK ON NORTH 8th
10:09:40AM STREET.
10:09:40AM I CAME TODAY BECAUSE NOWHERE IN THE CITY CHARTER WHEN WE GET
10:09:45AM INSTRUCTION FROM THE ATTORNEY TO TELL US WHO CAN AND CANNOT
10:09:50AM COME TO A PUBLIC ENTITY AND VOICE THEY CONCERN.
10:09:53AM YOU ALLOWED A WHITE WOMAN LAST WEEK WHO FELT LIKE SHE'S
10:09:57AM PRIVILEGED AND SHE'S ENTITLED TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO
10:10:02AM GOOGLE HER AND CALL HER TO GET THEIR CONCERNS HEARD.
10:10:07AM THIS IS THE YEAR 2025.
10:10:10AM WE'VE BEEN FREE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
10:10:13AM I'M STANDING HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE YOUNG INTERNS, WE HAVE
10:10:17AM YOUNG PEOPLE THAT LISTEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND I
10:10:20AM WANT THEM TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE AS
10:10:25AM CITIZENS.
10:10:25AM NOBODY CAN TELL US WHEN OR WHERE OR HOW WE CAN SPEAK.
10:10:29AM I'VE BEEN LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM FOR KAREN.
10:10:32AM I DON'T SEE HER THIS MORNING, BUT NOT ONLY DO I LIVE IN
10:10:35AM BRANDON, I FULLY OWN MY HOME BECAUSE I BELIEVE, MY HUSBAND
10:10:41AM AND I, WE WORKED HARD.
10:10:42AM WE PAID OUR BILLS, AND WE PAID OUR HOUSE OFF EARLY BECAUSE
10:10:46AM OF THE LEARNING THAT I RECEIVED BY BEING A RESIDENT OF THIS
10:10:52AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, 1508 NORTH 8th STREET IN A HOUSE THAT
10:10:55AM WAS FULLY PAID FOR.
10:10:57AM I WILL NOT TOLERATE DISRESPECT PERSONALLY NOR TO THE PEOPLE
10:11:02AM THAT I REPRESENT.
10:11:02AM IF PEOPLE WANT TO CALL ME AND VOICE THEY CONCERN, THEY ARE
10:11:06AM ABLE TO DO THAT, AND I'M GOING TO BRING THE CONCERN WHETHER
10:11:09AM IT BE TO THE MAYOR OR TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:11:12AM BUT NOBODY IS GOING TO TELL ME WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO IN
10:11:19AM THIS AGE OF TIME.
10:11:20AM SO THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU ALL NEED TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR
10:11:23AM MEETINGS AND STOP THE BLATANT DISRESPECT BECAUSE ALL THIS
10:11:29AM IGNORANCE THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IS UNCALLED FOR.
10:11:32AM THERE ARE REAL ISSUES, PEOPLE ARE FACING REAL PROBLEMS,
10:11:37AM PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO LIVE.
10:11:38AM THEY EVEN NEED A PLACE TO DIE.
10:11:40AM BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY MORE DISRESPECT.
10:11:44AM SO I DON'T KNOW WHO PUSHING UP OR WHO TOLD HER THAT SHE HAVE
10:11:51AM THE PRIVILEGE TO TALK LIKE SHE DID LAST WEEK.
10:11:53AM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING BACK, I HAD TO WAIT AND COME
10:11:57AM DOWN HERE TODAY.
10:11:58AM MAKE IT MY BUSINESS TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT I WILL NOT
10:12:03AM TOLERATE DISRESPECT.
10:12:05AM I DON'T DISRESPECT ANYONE AND NO KARENS ARE GOING TO GET UP
10:12:07AM HERE AND DISRESPECT ME OR THE PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE TO CALL ME.
10:12:12AM NOBODY HAVE TO GOOGLE HER OR CALL HER.
10:12:15AM AND HER FRIENDS, IF THEY ARE EGGING THIS FOOLISHNESS ON,
10:12:19AM THAT'S ON THEM.
10:12:20AM THAT'S A MESSAGE FOR EVERYBODY.
10:12:21AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:12:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:12:22AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:12:30AM >> MY NAME IS ASTARI.
10:12:33AM I DIDN'T GROW UP IN TAMPA.
10:12:36AM I'M ACTUALLY FROM ATLANTA.
10:12:38AM I'VE JUST BEEN LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE.
10:12:40AM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE REWORX PROGRAM OR THE PROJECT.
10:12:47AM HOWEVER, LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE, EVERYBODY WANTS
10:12:50AM DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
10:12:55AM I UNDERSTAND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY
10:12:59AM FEARS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL PUSH THEM OUT.
10:13:02AM AS WELL AS THERE'S I GUESS PROSTITUTION OR DRUG DOING THAT A
10:13:07AM GENTLEMAN SPOKE OF THAT HE DOESN'T LIKE.
10:13:11AM DOES DEVELOPMENT NEED TO HAPPEN?
10:13:12AM EVERYBODY SEEMS TO AGREE THAT IT DOES NEED TO HAPPEN.
10:13:15AM BUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT?
10:13:18AM EVERYONE DESERVES A PLACE TO STAY.
10:13:20AM EVERYONE DESERVES TO HAVE A HOUSE.
10:13:22AM IT SOUNDS LIKE MORE PEOPLE ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
10:13:25AM FUNDING AS OPPOSED TO THE SAFETY AND CARING OF PEOPLE.
10:13:30AM WE'RE ALL PEOPLE HERE.
10:13:31AM NO MATTER THE COLOR, THE RACE, OR WHERE YOU COME FROM, WE'RE
10:13:35AM ALL PEOPLE, AND WE'RE ALL PEOPLE UNDER THE EYES OF GOD.
10:13:38AM NONE OF US ARE BETTER OR WORSE THAN THE OTHER.
10:13:40AM SHOULD DEVELOPMENT TAKE PLACE IN AN AREA THAT SOUNDS LIKE
10:13:46AM IT'S BEEN LEFT TO JUST BE THERE, IT SHOULD.
10:13:49AM YET, WHAT IS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY GOING TO DO?
10:13:52AM THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU ARE HERE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.
10:13:56AM THE PEOPLE, YOU ARE HERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE
10:13:59AM ALL A COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO SPITTING OUT ANGER, DISCUSSING
10:14:03AM THE PROBLEMS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
10:14:06AM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A SOLUTION THAT CAN BE A
10:14:09AM FOUNDATION MOVING FORWARD.
10:14:11AM WE JUST NEED LOVE.
10:14:13AM A YOUNG LADY SPOKE THAT YOU HAVE SUICIDE BECAUSE PEOPLE
10:14:17AM DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO.
10:14:19AM YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFRAID THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE
10:14:22AM PUSHED OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
10:14:24AM THAT'S ANOTHER VERSION WHERE SOMEBODY CAN POSSIBLY TAKE
10:14:27AM THEIR LIFE.
10:14:27AM THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, WE CAN BE
10:14:33AM BETTER FOR EACH OTHER.
10:14:34AM SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT AFTER THAT, THERE HAS TO BE A
10:14:38AM SOLUTION BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AND
10:14:41AM CREATE PARTNERSHIPS.
10:14:42AM THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING AS OPPOSED TO MORE OF
10:14:47AM THE FUNDING.
10:14:47AM THE FUNDING IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE, BUT WE HAVE TO THINK
10:14:50AM ABOUT EACH OTHER'S LIVES.
10:14:51AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
10:14:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:14:58AM WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT?
10:14:59AM PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO STATE YOUR NAME.
10:15:06AM >> HELLO.
10:15:08AM THANKS FOR LETTING ME COME IN.
10:15:10AM MY NAME IS JOHN DAY.
10:15:11AM I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN ST. PETE.
10:15:14AM WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND THEN WENT NORTH AND
10:15:19AM SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE IN PENNSYLVANIA AND CONNECTICUT.
10:15:22AM AND CAME DOWN FOR MY 50th HIGH SCHOOL REUNION AND HOOKED
10:15:27AM UP WITH A GIRL I TOOK TO THE PROM.
10:15:29AM I WAS HAPPY TO COME BACK TO TAMPA.
10:15:32AM BECAUSE ONE OF THE COOL THINGS ABOUT TAMPA, I REMEMBER MY
10:15:37AM PARENTS WHEN THEY HAD A BIG OCCASION, LIKE AN ANNIVERSARY OR
10:15:41AM SOMETHING, THEY WOULD COME TO TAMPA FOR THE COLUMBIA
10:15:43AM RESTAURANT.
10:15:44AM SO TAMPA WAS ALWAYS, OOH, EVEN BIGGER.
10:15:49AM AT ANY RATE, I LOVE TAMPA.
10:15:53AM IT'S GREAT.
10:15:54AM I LIVE OVER IN TAMPA BAPTIST MANOR, JUST OVER THE BRIDGE BY
10:15:58AM UT.
10:16:00AM I WORSHIP DOWNTOWN AT THE PORTICO -- THE PORTICO.
10:16:09AM SO I HAVE A HEART FOR THE CITY.
10:16:13AM I LIKE THE CITY.
10:16:15AM AND NOW I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ITEM NUMBER 1, THE
10:16:24AM PROJECT IN YBOR.
10:16:24AM IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO GET PEOPLE WORKING THERE WHO
10:16:29AM LIVE THERE, THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE JOBS BUILDING
10:16:33AM IT, AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.
10:16:35AM IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT IDEA.
10:16:37AM AND NOW THAT'S A PROXIMAL GOAL.
10:16:45AM I WISH YOU WOULD LIFT YOUR EYES A LITTLE BIT ABOVE JUST THE
10:16:49AM EMERGENCY NOW AND THINK ABOUT TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
10:16:56AM WE REALLY NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:16:58AM WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS LIKE A TEN-STORY HIGH-RISE FOR
10:17:03AM HOMELESS PEOPLE.
10:17:04AM WITH WRAPAROUND PSYCHIATRIC UNITS, PSYCHIATRIC CARE AND
10:17:13AM MEDICAL CARE.
10:17:14AM IF THEY ARE HOMELESS, YOU WON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PARKING
10:17:16AM GARAGE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE IT MADE.
10:17:18AM LET'S KEEP MOVING AHEAD.
10:17:27AM GET ONE PROJECT DONE.
10:17:29AM WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE HOMELESS GUYS, TOO.
10:17:31AM WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR LOCAL FOLKS
10:17:36AM LIVING WHERE THEY ARE.
10:17:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
10:17:44AM >> THANK YOU.
10:17:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
10:17:46AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:17:46AM NEXT.
10:17:48AM IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE BESIDES PASTOR WILLIAMS, PLEASE MAKE
10:17:52AM SURE TO STAND UP.
10:17:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:17:54AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:17:56AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER 1 AND 8.
10:18:06AM I KNOW THERE ARE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FUNDING OF ITEM
10:18:09AM NUMBER 1, BUT I SUPPORTED THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH THE LAST
10:18:14AM MEETING, AND I STILL SUPPORT IT.
10:18:17AM I HAD QUESTIONS BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS WERE UNDECISIVE OR
10:18:25AM UNCLEAR BASED ON THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
10:18:28AM I HAVE SINCE SPOKEN WITH THE DEVELOPER AND ALL OF MY
10:18:32AM CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
10:18:33AM I KNOW THERE ARE QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO HOW MUCH WOULD BE
10:18:37AM FUNDED BY.
10:18:37AM WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
10:18:40AM NO IFS, ANDS, BUTS ABOUT IT.
10:18:44AM WE CAN'T BUILD FIVE-STORY BUILDINGS WITH BIG UNITS IN EVERY
10:18:52AM SPOT OF THE CITY.
10:18:53AM THIS SITE HERE OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD IN CLUSTERS.
10:18:58AM FEW HERE, FEW THERE, THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, THROUGHOUT
10:19:01AM THE CITY TO BE HONEST.
10:19:04AM IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.
10:19:09AM OUTSIDE OF WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE FUNDING.
10:19:13AM BUT THE IDEA AND THE MAKEUP OF IT WITH 20 UNITS, SIX BEING
10:19:19AM 50%, 2 BEING 30%, THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER, RIGHT?
10:19:27AM I DO SUPPORT THIS.
10:19:29AM IN REGARDS TO NUMBER 8, I SUPPORTED THAT IN A COUNCIL
10:19:35AM MEETING ALSO.
10:19:38AM AGAIN, A HUNDRED UNITS WITH MANUFACTURING TOOL TO IT.
10:19:43AM PEOPLE CAN WALK TO WORK OR WALK TO GET TRAINING.
10:19:49AM I SUPPORT THAT.
10:19:50AM I HEAR ALL THE TIME WITH MY ORGANIZATION, MEMBERS SAYING
10:19:54AM WHERE ARE THE TRAININGS?
10:19:54AM WHERE ARE THE TRAININGS?
10:19:56AM I POINT TO ERWIN.
10:19:59AM WHAT'S AT ERWIN?
10:20:00AM THIS OFFERS ANOTHER AVENUE FOR THAT ALSO.
10:20:04AM I SUPPORT BOTH ITEMS.
10:20:07AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:20:09AM OH, ONE OTHER THING.
10:20:11AM YELLOW JACKETS, IN THE BUDGET.
10:20:14AM THANK YOU.
10:20:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
10:20:17AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:20:18AM PASTOR WILLIAMS.
10:20:26AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS, LOCATED -- USED TO BE LOCATED
10:20:31AM 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
10:20:35AM SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER WE GOT ME OUT OF THAT HOUSE, OUT OF THAT
10:20:38AM CHURCH.
10:20:39AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:20:39AM I THANK GOD FOR ALL THE COMMENTS THEY HAVE MADE.
10:20:44AM I DON'T WANT TO TURN MY BACK ON YOU ALL.
10:20:48AM I WANT YOU ALL TO LOOK AT ME.
10:20:50AM THANK GOD FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID AND WHAT YOU SAID.
10:20:53AM I HOPE IT'S BEEN RECORDED.
10:20:56AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:20:57AM THEY COME UP WITH ME, HOLD ALL THE FOOLISHNESS.
10:21:01AM WE GOT TO SPEAK PEACEFULLY.
10:21:03AM I GOT TO COMMEND YOU.
10:21:06AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
10:21:07AM KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
10:21:09AM GOD IS GOING TO BLESS YOU, REGARDLESS WHETHER THE PEOPLE
10:21:12AM LIKE IT OR NOT.
10:21:13AM I COME UP HERE, I TOLD YOU I WANTED TO BE LAST, BUT I'M NOT
10:21:18AM LAST.
10:21:18AM WE GOT TO THANK GOD FOR ANOTHER DAY OF LIVING.
10:21:27AM THANK HIM FOR HIS BLESSINGS.
10:21:30AM WE ACT LIKE WE WANT TO IGNORE WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR US.
10:21:33AM HE IS THE ONE WHO WOKE US UP THIS MORNING.
10:21:37AM TELL HIM THANK YOU.
10:21:38AM WHETHER YOU ALL AGREE WITH ME OR NOT.
10:21:40AM IT'S TRUE.
10:21:41AM I LOOK AT THE SITUATION IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, PLACE CALLED EAST
10:21:48AM TAMPA, WE DON'T WANT TO DO NOTHING FOR THEM.
10:21:52AM I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHETHER IT'S IN THE BUDGET TO HELP PEOPLE
10:21:58AM IN EAST TAMPA.
10:21:58AM LOOK LIKE DON'T NOBODY GIVE A DAMN.
10:22:00AM BUT WE GOT TO CARE ABOUT OURSELVES.
10:22:02AM I'M SO HAPPY FOR THE COMMENTS THAT THE PEOPLE MADE AROUND
10:22:06AM HERE.
10:22:08AM I'M GRATEFUL TO THEM.
10:22:09AM THEY SAID A WHOLE LOT THAT I WANTED TO SAY.
10:22:12AM I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT IT AGAIN.
10:22:15AM BUT GOD IS GOOD TO ALL OF US.
10:22:17AM YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT, I GOT TO KEEP ON MOVING.
10:22:20AM YOU GOT TO KEEP ON MOVING.
10:22:22AM GOD BLESS THE OLD, THE YOUNG, THE UGLY.
10:22:26AM IT DON'T MAKE NO DIFFERENCE HOW WE LOOK.
10:22:29AM GOD BLESS ALL OF US AND HE LOVE US ALL, TOO.
10:22:32AM GOD HAS STRICKEN ME TO COME HERE ANOTHER DAY.
10:22:42AM I'M GRATEFUL TO GOD FOR WHAT HE'S DOING FOR ME.
10:22:45AM YOU OUGHT TO BE GRATEFUL, TOO.
10:22:48AM LIVE TO BECOME AN OLD MAN AND I'M GRATEFUL TO GOD THAT HE
10:22:51AM LET ME LIVE 87 YEARS.
10:22:53AM THAT'S A BLESSING.
10:22:55AM SOME OF YOU ALL WON'T MAKE IT THAT FAR, BUT GOD IS SO GOOD
10:22:59AM TO US.
10:23:00AM RINGING THAT BELL ON ME NOW.
10:23:02AM MEAN I GOT TO SIT DOWN.
10:23:05AM JOSEPH CAPITANO, HE COME DOWN HERE A FEW TIMES.
10:23:12AM YOU KNOW WHAT, HE DONATED BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB TO THE SCHOOL.
10:23:18AM YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID?
10:23:19AM THEY SOLD IT.
10:23:21AM THAT'S A SHAME.
10:23:22AM SOLD IT AND THEN GAVE HIM A BROWN -- FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS
10:23:29AM CLUB.
10:23:29AM BUILD SOME HIGH-RISES ON THERE.
10:23:31AM UH-OH, I GOT TO GO NOW.
10:23:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:23:34AM ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS MORNING?
10:23:36AM OKAY.
10:23:39AM PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED.
10:23:46AM WHERE ARE WE NEXT?
10:23:51AM MR. McCRAY.
10:23:52AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
10:23:54AM CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
10:23:57AM PER THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE LIST MONTH AT THE JUNE 12
10:24:01AM MEETING, ITEM NUMBER 1, URBAN REWORX WAS REQUESTED TO APPEAR
10:24:05AM FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
10:24:07AM WE WILL GLADLY HAVE THAT.
10:24:09AM BEFORE WE GET TO THAT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 8 WAS NEVER
10:24:12AM OFFICIALLY APPROVED FOR OR PULLED FROM THE AGENDA FOR
10:24:16AM DISCUSSION.
10:24:17AM I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD DO THAT AT THIS TIME.
10:24:21AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:24:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO
10:24:27AM AND A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:24:28AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:29AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:24:30AM ITEM 8 WILL BE MOVED FROM -- MOVED TO STAFF REPORTS.
10:24:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:38AM THANK YOU, MADAM VICE-CHAIR.
10:24:41AM GO AHEAD, MR. McCRAY.
10:24:42AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: I WAS JUST ARTICULATING THAT URBAN REWORX
10:24:47AM WOULD BE UP FIRST.
10:24:47AM THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE.
10:24:49AM AND THEN MS. PARKS IS ON VIRTUALLY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS
10:24:52AM THAT MAY COME UP RELATED TO THE APPLICATION AND PROCESS
10:24:56AM MOVING FORWARD.
10:24:56AM THANK YOU.
10:24:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:57AM ARE THE PETITIONERS FOR NUMBER ONE UP?
10:25:01AM ROUGHLY HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU AND YOUR CLIENTS NEED?
10:25:12AM >> HOPEFULLY LESS THAN THREE MINUTES.
10:25:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL SET THE TIMER FOR FIVE JUST IN CASE.
10:25:19AM >> LISTEN, I KNOW YOU GOT SCARED WHEN YOU SAW THE BIG STACK.
10:25:23AM DAVID SINGER FOR THE APPLICANT.
10:25:25AM GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.
10:25:27AM LIKE I SAID, I WOULD BE VERY BRIEF.
10:25:28AM YOU HEARD A LOT ON JUNE 12.
10:25:30AM WE DON'T NEED TO REHASH ALL OF THAT.
10:25:32AM YOU CERTAINLY HEARD A LOT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:25:37AM I THINK PRETTY OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE.
10:25:39AM I JUST WANT TO REFRESH YOU A LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THE
10:25:44AM IMPORTANT NOTES WITH THIS REQUEST AND HOPEFULLY GIVE YOU
10:25:49AM ENOUGH INFORMATION TO APPROVE THE FULL REQUEST.
10:25:52AM I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO UNDERSTAND IS
10:25:55AM THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS STRUCK LAST TIME ABOUT THE MIX OF
10:26:02AM UNITS HERE.
10:26:03AM 30% OF AMI FOR TWO UNITS, 50% FOR SIX, AND 80% FOR 12.
10:26:09AM THIS IS LOCKED IN OVER 50 YEARS TIED TO THE AMI.
10:26:13AM THAT IS 20 YEARS LONGER THAN USUAL.
10:26:16AM THAT IS GOING TO BE A BIG SAVINGS TO THE RESIDENTS, A BIG
10:26:20AM BOOST TO THE RESIDENTS.
10:26:22AM CERTAINLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS OVERWHELMINGLY NEEDED.
10:26:27AM BUT IT'S NEEDED IN THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S
10:26:31AM GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY, IN OUR STATE, AND OUR COMMUNITY.
10:26:34AM PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO BE STRUGGLING PRETTY MIGHTILY WITH
10:26:38AM MEDICAL EXPENSES.
10:26:40AM STRUGGLING SIGNIFICANTLY TRYING TO FIND EMPLOYMENT WITH
10:26:43AM EDUCATION FUNDING.
10:26:43AM THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT WE CAN DO
10:26:47AM LOCALLY IN AN AREA OF OUR CITY THAT NEEDS HELP AND FOR
10:26:53AM RESIDENTS THAT NEED HELP.
10:26:55AM WE'RE ASKING FOR 20 UNITS THAT CAN BE ONLINE QUICKER THAN
10:26:59AM ANY OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT IN THE CITY.
10:27:04AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY WITH SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY
10:27:06AM SUPPORT.
10:27:08AM I WILL ENTER INTO THE RECORD THESE 81 LETTERS OF SUPPORT
10:27:11AM FROM THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING ORGANIZATIONS, BUT ALSO
10:27:15AM INCLUDING RESIDENTS.
10:27:15AM I WANT TO TAKE NOTE OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS ARE
10:27:19AM SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT IN THIS PART OF THE COMMUNITY
10:27:22AM BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S NEEDED.
10:27:24AM SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
10:27:26AM WE BELIEVE YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ALREADY.
10:27:30AM MAYBE MORE THAN ENOUGH INFORMATION.
10:27:32AM AND WE ASK FOR YOUR FULL APPROVAL FOR THE FUNDING REQUEST.
10:27:37AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SINGER.
10:27:38AM APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.
10:27:39AM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:27:40AM WHAT I'LL DO, GUYS, I THINK WE DO THIS UNDER COUNCIL, IS
10:27:43AM FIVE MINUTES FOR FIRST ROUND AND THEN THREE MINUTES YOUR
10:27:46AM SECOND TIME SPEAKING.
10:27:47AM THIRD TIME SPEAKING, YOU GET 10 SECONDS.
10:27:50AM GO AHEAD.
10:27:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY QUESTION WILL GO TO MR. McCRAY.
10:27:55AM MR. McCRAY, WHAT IS THE ASK HERE?
10:28:00AM WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT?
10:28:02AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: FROM THE APPLICANT, IT WAS $5 MILLION.
10:28:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE
10:28:05AM CAC?
10:28:07AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF AND THE
10:28:08AM COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN EAST TAMPA WAS 2 MILLION.
10:28:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 2 MILLION, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET
10:28:15AM AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
10:28:18AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:28:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAD A LONG BRIEFING YESTERDAY, YOU
10:28:23AM AND I.
10:28:24AM THIS COULD BE ONE OF SEVERAL MANY PROJECTS.
10:28:28AM THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF WHAT I SEE IT, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK
10:28:31AM AT WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND HOW WE CAN I DON'T WANT TO SAY
10:28:37AM SPREAD THE WEALTH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO START DEDICATING HUGE
10:28:41AM AMOUNTS OF MONEY HERE AND HERE AND HERE AND HAVE TO CUT THIS
10:28:44AM AND CUT THAT AND WHAT NOT.
10:28:46AM THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE AT PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. DENGLER, I
10:28:52AM THINK EXPLAINED IT MORE CLEARLY THAN ANY OTHER WAY I'VE
10:28:57AM HEARD IT.
10:28:57AM AND THIS IS NOT, MR. SINGER MENTIONED IT, IT'S NOT 30 YEARS.
10:29:01AM THIS IS 50 YEARS.
10:29:02AM LOCK IN 20 UNITS.
10:29:04AM IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE FIRST PRESENTATION WHICH WAS 80%
10:29:08AM AMI.
10:29:09AM THIS SHOWS A VARIETY OF IT.
10:29:10AM SO IT WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP MORE PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT
10:29:15AM PERCENTAGES.
10:29:15AM I KNOW THAT CORRIDOR VERY WELL.
10:29:18AM I'VE SEEN VERY LITTLE CHANGES IN THAT CORRIDOR IN THE LAST
10:29:23AM 20 YEARS BECAUSE I WOULD TAKE IT EVERY DAY TO GO TO HCC IN
10:29:27AM YBOR 20 YEARS AGO.
10:29:28AM BIGGEST CHANGE SOUTH OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, RECONFIGURATION
10:29:31AM OF THE ROAD.
10:29:33AM TWO LANES EACH NORTH AND SOUTH TO THE ROAD DIET IN THE
10:29:36AM CENTER MEDIAN.
10:29:37AM BUT THAT'S IT.
10:29:38AM IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT HISTORIC AREA OF VM YBOR, GOING INTO
10:29:44AM YBOR, AS GATEWAY INTO YBOR CITY, GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN.
10:29:48AM COMING OFF MARTIN LUTHER KING.
10:29:49AM YOU SEE A LOT OF INVESTMENT FOR A LONG TIME.
10:29:53AM I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY THIS MORNING ABOUT THE
10:29:57AM DAMAGE THAT THE INTERSTATE DID WHEN IT CAME THROUGH IN THE
10:30:00AM LATE 1950s AND EXPANDED.
10:30:03AM THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVEN'T RECOVERED.
10:30:05AM WEST TAMPA WAS AFFECTED.
10:30:06AM YBOR WAS AFFECTED.
10:30:07AM THIS AREA WAS AFFECTED.
10:30:09AM ANYWAYS, THINGS THAT HAPPENED UNDER THE EISENHOWER
10:30:13AM ADMINISTRATION, WE'RE FEELING THE EFFECTS TODAY.
10:30:15AM PEOPLE ARE MOVING BACK TO THAT COMMUNITY.
10:30:17AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE STRENGTHENING EACH AND EVERY
10:30:19AM DAY.
10:30:20AM I HEARD ABOUT A NEBRASKA AVENUE, LIKE A BUSINESS CORRIDOR
10:30:27AM THAT NOW EXISTS.
10:30:29AM WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS.
10:30:30AM MS. MARTINEZ, MR. CREIGHTON WAS HERE.
10:30:36AM THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A TRANSFORMATIONAL POSITIVE, MAYBE
10:30:41AM A RENAISSANCE.
10:30:43AM WE SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN TAMPA HEIGHTS WITH ARMATURE WORKS.
10:30:47AM I USED TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME WITH MY
10:30:50AM GRANDMOTHER.
10:30:50AM THE CATALYST, THE GROWTH IN THAT AREA.
10:30:53AM AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO FURTHER EXPAND IT NOT JUST
10:30:56AM BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT, BUT THIS IS ONE OF MANY THAT I HOPE
10:31:00AM COME ONLINE.
10:31:04AM IT NEEDS IT.
10:31:05AM WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:31:06AM ROBIN LOCKETT SPOKE.
10:31:09AM THAT'S HOW I MET HER FOR THE NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:31:11AM WE'VE HEARD FROM A WOMAN WHO IS SITTING IN THE BACK IN THE
10:31:14AM BLUE SHIRT, TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:31:18AM THIS ISN'T GOING TO SOLVE EVERYTHING.
10:31:21AM THIS IS A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.
10:31:23AM I THINK 50 YEARS, YOU PUT SOMEBODY IN PERMANENT HOUSING, 50
10:31:26AM YEARS IS A LONG TIME.
10:31:27AM I'M 41.
10:31:28AM THAT'S ME AT 91, IF I SHOULD LIVE THAT LONG.
10:31:31AM PASTOR WILLIAMS SAYS 87 YEARS OLD, WE HAVE TO THANK GOD FOR
10:31:34AM THAT.
10:31:35AM BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE CAN HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE,
10:31:39AM SLEEP AT NIGHT AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO
10:31:41AM BE OUT ON THE STREET AT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT INCOMES.
10:31:45AM YES, IT'S 20 UNITS, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WAS PROPOSED
10:31:48AM BEFORE AND WE'RE TOUCHING MORE PEOPLE AND GIVING MORE
10:31:51AM OPPORTUNITY.
10:31:52AM I WANT TO SUPPORT IT, BUT I WANT TO SUPPORT IT WITH THE CAC
10:31:57AM SAID, $2 MILLION AND WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS.
10:32:00AM THE 5 MILLION, I GET IT.
10:32:02AM $5 MILLION.
10:32:03AM BUT $2 MILLION IS WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED, IT MAKES SENSE.
10:32:07AM THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO BE AT.
10:32:10AM THANK YOU.
10:32:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:32:11AM NOW, IN TERMS OF FOLKS TO SPEAK, I SAW LIGHTS, FIRST BOARD
10:32:14AM MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:32:15AM I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF YOU ALL FIRST.
10:32:17AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:32:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
10:32:24AM THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
10:32:25AM THE PROBLEM IS, YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
10:32:27AM USED TO BE THREE AREAS CALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TAMPA WHEN
10:32:31AM I WAS GROWING UP IN TAMPA.
10:32:32AM ROBLES PARK, PONCE De LEON, AND COLLEGE HILL.
10:32:42AM AND THEY WERE ALWAYS FULL.
10:32:44AM ALWAYS ALIGNED TO -- ALWAYS A LINE TO GET IN.
10:32:46AM I GUESS BACK WHEN MY PARENTS APPLIED, SOMEHOW THEY GOT IN.
10:32:53AM THEY HAD TO WAIT, BUT THEY GOT IN.
10:32:55AM WE HAD MORE KIDS TO PLAY WITH THAN EVER BEFORE IN EVERY
10:32:59AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:32:59AM IF YOU GO BACK AND DO AN INTERLOCAL STUDY OF THOSE THREE,
10:33:03AM WHERE ARE THE RESIDENTS, THE CHILD, THE KIDS OF THE PARENTS
10:33:06AM THAT WENT IN THERE, YOU'LL BE AMAZED HOW MANY DOCTORS AND
10:33:10AM LAWYERS CAME OUT OF THERE, HOW MANY PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE
10:33:12AM WORKED, HOW WELL THEY DID IN SCHOOL, AND I'M NOT TALKING
10:33:16AM ABOUT MYSELF.
10:33:17AM I'M TALKING ABOUT OTHERS THAT WERE REALLY SUCCESSFUL.
10:33:20AM THEY WORK AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT WAS AND THEY ALWAYS HELPED
10:33:24AM SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:33:24AM AND THEY WORKED TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE GET OUT OF WHERE THEY
10:33:27AM WERE AT.
10:33:28AM THERE WERE NONE OF THESE PROGRAMS AROUND.
10:33:32AM IF THERE WERE, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNEW ABOUT IT.
10:33:35AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, HAS IT MADE A DIFFERENCE?
10:33:38AM YES.
10:33:39AM MY COLLEAGUE, MR. MANISCALCO SPOKE ABOUT THE MONEY.
10:33:42AM YOU CAN'T PUT ALL THAT KIND OF MONEY INTO ONE AREA AND BE
10:33:46AM SUCCESSFUL.
10:33:47AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRs ARE GOING TO DO.
10:33:50AM I KNOW THE ENDING IS WITHIN NINE OR TEN YEARS IN SOME.
10:33:54AM AND THEN WHAT?
10:33:54AM SO YOU CAN'T SAY FUND 20 YEARS WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE 8 YEARS
10:34:00AM LEFT.
10:34:00AM I'M NOT TALKING SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS CRA.
10:34:03AM BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY.
10:34:05AM WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO TO THE NEXT ONE
10:34:09AM THAT APPLIES?
10:34:10AM IS IT GOING TO BE 5 MILLION OR 10 MILLION?
10:34:13AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:34:19AM THE SKIN IS PLAYED BOTH WAYS FROM THE CRA AND FROM THE
10:34:23AM DEVELOPER.
10:34:24AM BUT HOW DO THOSE UNITS COME ABOUT, ROBLES PARK, COLLEGE HILL
10:34:31AM AND PONCE De LEON?
10:34:33AM NO CRAs THEN.
10:34:35AM CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
10:34:38AM THAT'S HOW THE HOUSING AUTHORITY CAME ABOUT.
10:34:41AM THEY ARE THE ONES THAT RAN IT.
10:34:42AM THEY HAD THE OFFICES, AND THEY COLLECTED THE RENT.
10:34:46AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RENT WAS, GUARANTEE YOU, LESS THAN $40
10:34:49AM A MONTH.
10:34:50AM BUT THINGS WERE DIFFERENT, BUT THEY ARE STILL THE SAME.
10:34:53AM $40 A MONTH THEN, NOW IT'S $400 A MONTH NOW.
10:34:58AM OR MORE.
10:34:59AM SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, THERE'S GOT TO BE A MEDIUM PIECE SO
10:35:03AM THAT EVERYBODY CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE, NO MATTER IF
10:35:06AM IT IS 30, 40, 50, 60, 80, 100, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING
10:35:11AM AFFORDABLE NOW.
10:35:13AM THE REASON I BOUGHT THE HOUSE THAT I LIVED, HORSEBACK, 1968,
10:35:20AM THAT PRICE OF THE HOUSE WAS 12,600.
10:35:23AM THREE BEDROOM, ONE BATH.
10:35:24AM THE REASON I BOUGHT THAT HOUSE BECAUSE THE PAYMENTS WOULD BE
10:35:27AM $69 A MONTH, INCLUDE A SECOND MORTGAGE OF $7 INCLUDED IN THE
10:35:32AM $69.
10:35:33AM I DIDN'T BUY THE ONE ON PARIS STREET BECAUSE IT WAS $119.
10:35:39AM I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION WITH MY WIFE.
10:35:41AM WE COULD NOT AFFORD 119.
10:35:43AM WE COULD AFFORD THE 69.
10:35:45AM THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
10:35:46AM BORROWED MONEY FROM MY UNCLE FOR THE DOWN PAYMENT.
10:35:49AM SO WHAT I'M SAYING, EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME.
10:35:54AM FAMILY TO HELP FAMILY.
10:35:56AM THAT'S HOW I GOT MY START.
10:35:58AM I'M SAYING THAT I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS AND MAKE SURE
10:36:02AM EVERYBODY HAS -- THIS ADMINISTRATION, LET ME CHANGE RAILROAD
10:36:07AM TRACKS FOR A MINUTE.
10:36:08AM HAS DONE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAN MAYBE THE LAST TWO
10:36:11AM ADMINISTRATIONS PUT TOGETHER.
10:36:12AM NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.
10:36:14AM THEY HAD SO MANY OTHER PRIORITIES.
10:36:16AM EVERYTHING WAS SHUT DOWN.
10:36:17AM NO DOWNTOWN.
10:36:18AM YBOR CITY WAS STRUGGLING, CONVENTION CENTER WAS STRUGGLING.
10:36:21AM EVERYBODY WAS STRUGGLING.
10:36:21AM SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPITAL TO DO IT.
10:36:25AM THE ONE I FEEL MOST FOR, MAYOR IORIO.
10:36:29AM TOOK OFFICE WITH NOTHING TO DO, NO MONEY TO SPEND AND DID A
10:36:32AM MARVELOUS JOB OF RUNNING THE CITY.
10:36:34AM YES, LAY OFF 750 SOME EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:36:37AM BUT SHE HAD THE COURAGE TO DO THAT TO BRING IT BACK.
10:36:40AM IF SHE HADN'T DONE THAT, WE WOULD STILL BE IN THE HOLE.
10:36:44AM WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE DO IT.
10:36:46AM NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT, BUT THE $5 MILLION SCARES THE HELL
10:36:49AM OUT OF ME BECAUSE IT WILL BE SOMETHING GREATER AFTER THIS.
10:36:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:37:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A CLARIFICATION, THIS ADMINISTRATION,
10:37:03AM THIS CITY IN THE LAST SIX YEARS SPENT MORE ON AFFORDABLE
10:37:05AM HOUSING THAN I THINK ANY PREVIOUS CITY, BUT 80 OR SO PERCENT
10:37:10AM OF THE MONEY WAS ALLOCATED EITHER BY CITY COUNCIL OR THE
10:37:13AM CRA, NOT THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:37:14AM A VERY SMALL AMOUNT WAS PUT IN BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:37:17AM THE ADMINISTRATION TOOK CREDIT FOR IT, BUT IT WAS MOSTLY CRA
10:37:21AM MONEY.
10:37:21AM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. SINGER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
10:37:24AM YOU SAID THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT FROM THE LAST MEETING JUST
10:37:28AM TO GO THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED.
10:37:30AM THE COMMUNITY CAME TO US PRIVATELY AND IN THE MEETINGS AND
10:37:33AM SAID, LOOK, 80% AMI IS NOT ENOUGH.
10:37:36AM WE NEED ROOMS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T MAKE THAT MUCH.
10:37:39AM SO THE DEVELOPER VOLUNTARILY OFFERED TO PUT UNITS IN AT 50%
10:37:43AM AND 30% AMI, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:37:47AM >> THAT'S ACCURATE.
10:37:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL COST TO THE DEVELOPER
10:37:50AM FOR CASH FLOW OVER 50 YEARS BECAUSE OF THAT, CORRECT?
10:37:54AM >> THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT.
10:37:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL
10:37:57AM NUMBER IS?
10:37:58AM >> ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS.
10:38:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: OVER 50 YEARS OR JUST --
10:38:04AM >> UP FRONT.
10:38:05AM IT'S AN UP FRONT NUMBER.
10:38:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S LIKE PRESENT VALUE.
10:38:09AM >> CORRECT.
10:38:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: DID THE DEVELOPER ASK FOR 6 MILLION INSTEAD
10:38:13AM OF 5 OR KEEP IT AT 5?
10:38:15AM >> THEY KEPT THEIR REQUEST AS IS.
10:38:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MS. PARKS SOME
10:38:20AM QUESTIONS.
10:38:20AM MS. PARKS, WE SPOKE, MR. McCRAY, AND YOU AND I SPOKE
10:38:24AM YESTERDAY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I
10:38:26AM ASKED YESTERDAY, JUST SO THEY ARE ON THE RECORD SO THE
10:38:29AM PUBLIC CAN HEAR THE ANSWERS TO THEM.
10:38:32AM NOT TRYING TO ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS OR PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
10:38:35AM APOLOGIZE FOR THE QUESTIONS.
10:38:36AM WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC HEARS THE INFORMATION.
10:38:38AM IS MS. PARKS HERE?
10:38:39AM >> SHE IS ONLINE SUPPOSEDLY.
10:38:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER ONE, YOU RECOMMENDED IN YOUR DOCUMENT
10:38:46AM HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER UNIT?
10:38:47AM WHAT IS THE BASIS OF THE HUNDRED THOUSAND PER UNIT VERSUS
10:38:50AM ANY OTHER NUMBER?
10:38:58AM >>BELIX PARKS: B. PARKS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
10:39:02AM SO THE BASIS OF THE 100K PER UNIT, MR. DAY'S APPLICATION,
10:39:10AM STATED 2 MILLION AS HIS OWN SWEAT EQUITY.
10:39:13AM SO WEAN I'M LOOKING AT FUNDING PROJECTS, WE TYPICALLY DO NOT
10:39:18AM FUND MORE THAN 50% OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS BY THE CRA IN SOME
10:39:23AM PAST CASES.
10:39:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PARTICULAR HUNDRED THOUSAND, THE
10:39:28AM COMMUNITY THINKS THAT IS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER --
10:39:31AM >>BELIX PARKS: THAT IS HIGHER THAN NORMAL, CORRECT.
10:39:33AM THAT IS HIGHER THAN NORMAL.
10:39:35AM BUT LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WHICH ARE AVERAGING 280
10:39:38AM TO ABOUT 300 CURRENTLY, I CAME TO THE CALCULATION BASED OFF
10:39:43AM OF OUR BUDGET AS WELL THAT 100K CAN SUPPORT THE PROJECT,
10:39:47AM EVEN BY STANDARDS, THAT'S HIGHER THAN ANY MUNICIPALITY IN
10:39:51AM THE STATE OF FLORIDA THROUGH A CRA --
10:39:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MIGHT CUT YOU OFF SOMETIMES AND I
10:39:58AM APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.
10:39:59AM THEY ARE PUTTING ME TO A TIMER.
10:40:00AM I WANT TO MOVE AND ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
10:40:03AM YOU CREATED A CHART THAT YOU RECOMMENDED A FEW MONTHS AGO
10:40:08AM BASED ON THE BENCHMARKING YOU DID.
10:40:10AM THE DEVELOPER RELIED ON THE NUMBERS IN THE CHART, BUT YOU
10:40:13AM DIDN'T USE THE NUMBERS.
10:40:14AM YOU JUST STATED THAT YOU IN PART LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND
10:40:18AM THE FUTURE POTENTIAL APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMING IN.
10:40:20AM IS IT NOT TRUE THAT THE IMPLICATION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR
10:40:23AM CURRENT PROCESS IS THAT WE HAVE A FIRST IN, FIRST OUT
10:40:26AM SYSTEM, BUT YOU'RE ALSO COMPARING OTHER APPLICATIONS AND
10:40:31AM FUTURE POTENTIAL APPLICATIONS?
10:40:34AM >>BELIX PARKS: YES.
10:40:35AM THE MATRIX ALSO NEED FOR PERIMETERS, DUE TO CONSTRUCTION
10:40:40AM COSTS.
10:40:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT HUNDRED THOUSAND IS
10:40:44AM EVEN MORE THAN THE BENCHMARK NUMBER, BUT YOU RECOMMENDED A
10:40:47AM MUCH HIGHER NUMBER IN THE SPREADSHEET, CORRECT?
10:40:49AM >>BELIX PARKS: CORRECT.
10:40:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST NOW YOU SAID YOU USED THE --
10:40:54AM >>BELIX PARKS: BASED OFF OF CONSTRUCTION COST.
10:40:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: YESTERDAY WE TALKED ABOUT THE GAP ANALYSIS.
10:41:01AM ISN'T IT TRUE THAT THE GAP BETWEEN THE MARKET RATE RENT AND
10:41:06AM THE SUBSIDIZED RENT IS A MUCH BIGGER NUMBER OVER 50 YEARS
10:41:10AM THAN THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS?
10:41:11AM SO IF THEY COULD CHARGE, FOR EXAMPLE, 3,000 A MONTH FOR
10:41:19AM MARKET RATE AND ONLY CHARGE A THOUSAND, THEY ARE LOSING
10:41:21AM $2,000 A MONTH AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS
10:41:24AM WITH INFLATION OVER 50 YEARS AND PRESENT VALUE OF IT,
10:41:28AM CORRECT?
10:41:28AM IS SHE STILL THERE?
10:41:31AM MS. PARKS?
10:41:37AM ARE YOU STILL THERE, MS. PARKS?
10:41:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU THERE, MA'AM?
10:41:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE SHE'LL COME BACK.
10:41:54AM WHO MADE THE DECISION TO USE THE CONSTRUCTION COST METHOD
10:41:57AM VERSUS THE GAP ANALYSIS?
10:41:58AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT WAS CONVERSATIONS, WHEN WE WERE
10:42:01AM DEVELOPING, WE WERE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THE
10:42:03AM BOARD IN SOLICITING FEEDBACK AND ALSO SOME OF THE PRACTICES
10:42:10AM THAT MS. PARKS WAS --
10:42:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: CITY STAFF INFLUENCE THAT DECISION OR
10:42:14AM BENCHMARK THAT YOU ALL DID ON THE OUTSIDE?
10:42:16AM DID CITY STAFF INFLUENCE THAT DECISION OR DID YOU ALL LOOK
10:42:20AM AT BENCHMARKING ON THE OUTSIDE AS THE MATRIX HERE?
10:42:24AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT WAS BENCHMARKING OUTSIDE.
10:42:26AM >>BELIX PARKS: I'M BACK ON.
10:42:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: YESTERDAY, YOU SAID YOU DID A GAP ANALYSIS.
10:42:37AM DO YOU REMEMBER -- SO THAT'S LOOKING AT 50 YEARS OF THE GAP
10:42:40AM OF THE MARKET RATE VERSUS THE SUBSIDIZED RATE.
10:42:43AM DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER WAS OVER 50 YEARS?
10:42:47AM >>BELIX PARKS: IT'S AROUND $7 MILLION.
10:42:49AM IF YOU LOOK AT MARKET VERSUS THE AFFORDABLE RENT.
10:42:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS THE PRESENT VALUE OF WHATEVER THE
10:42:57AM PROJECTION IS OVER 50 YEARS?
10:42:59AM >>BELIX PARKS: CORRECT.
10:43:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: HAVE YOU MODIFIED THAT BASED ON THE NEW
10:43:03AM PROPOSAL TO GO TO 50% AND 30% AMI?
10:43:08AM >>BELIX PARKS: I LOOKED AT -- FIRST OF ALL, THAT GAP, THERE
10:43:12AM ARE TWO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS.
10:43:14AM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO.
10:43:16AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, BASED OFF OF THE BUDGET, THAT'S ALL THAT
10:43:20AM COULD BE SUPPORTED FOR THE PROJECT.
10:43:22AM -- AT THE WORKSHOP WHEN I PRESENT HOW WE PROCESS --
10:43:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS SAYING EARLIER, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
10:43:35AM BETWEEN LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION IS JUST
10:43:37AM ONE COST ELEMENT AND THE OVERALL GAP ANALYSIS EVALUATION
10:43:40AM OVER 50 YEARS.
10:43:42AM DO YOU KNOW, MR. SINGER, WHAT THE TOTAL, IF YOU DID A GAP
10:43:45AM ANALYSIS, WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER WOULD BE OVER 50 YEARS?
10:43:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: COME TO THE PODIUM WHENEVER YOU ANSWER.
10:43:57AM THANK YOU.
10:43:58AM FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE, NO CONVERSATIONS, PLEASE.
10:43:59AM THANK YOU.
10:44:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. PARKS, WAS THE CAC PRESENTED THE
10:44:07AM DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL FOR 5 MILLION OR WERE THEY PRESENTED A
10:44:09AM RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF FOR 2 MILLION?
10:44:14AM >>BELIX PARKS: THEY WERE PRESENTED THE PROPOSAL OF 5 MILLION
10:44:17AM AND THEN A MEMO TO THE CAC EXPLAINING WHY OUR COUNTER OFFER
10:44:23AM WAS 2 MILLION.
10:44:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: DID THE CAC DO ITS OWN ANALYSIS OF 5 MILLION
10:44:27AM VERSUS 2 MILLION LOOKING AT A GAP ANALYSIS?
10:44:29AM OR DID THEY JUST GO BASED ON THIS RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF?
10:44:32AM BASED ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS?
10:44:37AM >>BELIX PARKS: I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE CAC.
10:44:39AM WHAT I PRESENTED IS WHAT WENT OFF OF.
10:44:43AM I CAN'T SPEAK IF THEY DID THEIR OWN GAP ANALYSIS ON THE
10:44:46AM PROJECT.
10:44:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I'VE HEARD IN FEEDBACK IS THAT THE CAC
10:44:50AM WENT OFF THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF RATHER THAN LOOKING AT
10:44:52AM A FULL GAP ANALYSIS.
10:44:54AM IF THAT'S WRONG, LET ME KNOW.
10:44:56AM ONE OF THE CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE PAST, CITY AND
10:45:07AM CRA PROCESS HAS BEEN THAT WE HELP BIG COMPANIES BUT NOT
10:45:10AM SMALL COMPANIES.
10:45:11AM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A SMALL BUSINESS AND EXAMPLES OF
10:45:16AM NONPROFITS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING TO US FOR YEARS THAT
10:45:20AM THEY DON'T -- THAT THEY HAVE A DISADVANTAGE IN APPLYING FOR
10:45:23AM THINGS.
10:45:24AM WITHOUT ASKING A BUNCH OF OTHER QUESTIONS, THIS PROCESS, AS
10:45:28AM I SAID EARLIER AND I SENT OUT A MEMO AND GAVE IT TO THE
10:45:32AM CLERK, IF WE'RE COMPARING CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO GAP ANALYSIS
10:45:36AM AS APPLES AND ORANGES, COMPARING A PROJECT WHERE THE CITY IS
10:45:38AM DONATING LAND AS APPLES AND ORANGES, SO I THINK WE NEED TO
10:45:43AM COME UP WITH A CONSISTENT PROCESS THAT TREATS PEOPLE FAIRLY.
10:45:46AM DID YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THE GAP ANALYSIS NUMBER IS?
10:45:49AM >> YES, MIKE LIBERATORE FROM THE URBAN REWORX TEAM WHO CAN
10:45:55AM GIVE THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.
10:45:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:45:57AM I UNDERSTAND THIS IS DIFFICULT TO COMPARE.
10:45:59AM I USED TO WORK FOR RHODE ISLAND HOUSING.
10:46:01AM I LIVE HERE NOW IN PINELLAS COUNTY.
10:46:03AM I SAT ON THE INSIDE AND TRIED TO REVIEW THESE APPLICATIONS.
10:46:06AM THE PROJECT IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS 20 UNITS.
10:46:09AM SOMETIMES THESE PROJECTS GET COMPARED TO LARGER PROJECTS.
10:46:12AM LARGER PROJECTS ARE APPLICABLE FOR MORE SUBSIDY.
10:46:15AM IT'S MY JOB, AND EVERY UNDERWRITER'S JOB ON ANY DEVELOPMENT
10:46:20AM TEAM, TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET THE PROJECT FUNDED.
10:46:23AM WE LOOK AT ALL THE SOURCES AVAILABLE TO THE PROJECT.
10:46:25AM IN THE URBAN REWORX PROJECT 20 UNITS TODAY, IT DOESN'T
10:46:29AM QUALIFY FOR WHAT WE CALL LOW INCOME HOUSE CREDITS.
10:46:33AM MUCH LARGER PROJECT.
10:46:34AM TYPICALLY MORE THAN 50, PROBABLY MORE THAN 70 UNITS TO
10:46:37AM ACHIEVE TAX CREDITS.
10:46:38AM THIS IS A SMALL INFILL PROJECT.
10:46:41AM THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE FROM A SUBSIDY PERSPECTIVE FOR A
10:46:44AM LARGE PROJECT.
10:46:45AM WE BACKED INTO THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE BETWEEN THAD'S
10:46:50AM EQUITY, CASH, HE ALREADY PUT UP INTO THE PROJECT, THE LAND,
10:46:52AM THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AND WE'VE COME TO $250,000 PER UNIT.
10:46:56AM WE STILL ARE GOING TO REQUEST FOR MATERIAL TAX REBATE --
10:47:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL GAP ANALYSIS IS
10:47:03AM OVER 50 YEARS?
10:47:04AM PRESENT VALUE --
10:47:06AM >> IF WE LOOK AT THE MARKET RENTS TODAY, IF WE BUILT THIS AS
10:47:11AM PURELY MARKET AND COMPARED TO RESTRICTED RENTS AND THAT
10:47:13AM DELTA, THAT GAP, IN THE FIRST YEAR, IT'S $180,000, FIRST
10:47:18AM YEAR.
10:47:18AM WE ALL KNOW RENTS HAVE INCREASED.
10:47:20AM INCREASED OVER 30% OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
10:47:22AM WE'RE PROJECTING 3% ANNUALLY.
10:47:24AM 3% ANNUALLY OVER 50 YEARS THAT GAP GROWS TO $20 MILLION OVER
10:47:30AM 50 YEARS.
10:47:30AM $20 MILLION --
10:47:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: PRESENT VALUE?
10:47:34AM >> THAT'S TOTAL OF THE SAVINGS OVER 50 YEARS.
10:47:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MY POINT IS THAT IF WE'RE COMPARING 10
10:47:42AM MILLION, $9 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS VERSUS 20 MILLION
10:47:46AM IN GAP, IT'S A DIFFERENT CALCULATION.
10:47:49AM IF YOU ARGUE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION IS 5 MILLION OR 9
10:47:53AM MILLION, WHATEVER NUMBER YOU WANT TO PICK AND THEN 2 MILLION
10:47:56AM OR 5 MILLION IS A BIGGER DIFFERENCE.
10:47:59AM BUT IF THE GAP, WHICH IS THE REAL MONEY THAT THEY ARE GOING
10:48:01AM TO BE EXPENDING, COST OF CONSTRUCTION IS ONE INPUT INTO
10:48:04AM THAT.
10:48:05AM SO 20 YEARS OVER -- 20 MILLION OVER 50 YEARS, THEN 5 MILLION
10:48:10AM IS ONLY 25%.
10:48:12AM SO THAT MAKES THE CALCULATION TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
10:48:14AM AND IF WE'RE GOING TO -- AS YOU SAID, IF WE HELP SMALL
10:48:18AM BUSINESSES AND SMALL NONPROFITS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE
10:48:20AM ABLE ELIGIBLE FOR MAYBE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING.
10:48:24AM SO THE CRA WILL HAVE TO CLOSE THAT GAP.
10:48:26AM I'LL JUST END BY ONE OTHER THING, IF YOU READ SECTION 163
10:48:30AM CRA LAW, IT SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS
10:48:34AM ONE OF THE LINE ITEMS, ONE OF THE KEY LINE ITEMS WE SHOULD
10:48:36AM BE SPENDING MONEY ON.
10:48:38AM I BELIEVE WE ARE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE IN TRYING TO DO THIS.
10:48:41AM ANOTHER THING I SHOULD SAY, WE KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE IN THE
10:48:43AM '60s AND '70s, THAT LARGE DENTS, CONCENTRATIONS OF
10:48:48AM POVERTY ARE NOT A GOOD IDEA.
10:48:49AM SO ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF SOCIAL SCIENTISTS IS TO SPREAD
10:48:54AM AFFORDABLE UNITS THROUGHOUT A COMMUNITY, HAVE DIVERSITY OF
10:48:58AM PRODUCT, DIVERSITY OF GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION SO THAT WE CAN
10:49:03AM BUILD COMMUNITIES WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS.
10:49:05AM THIS SERVES ALL OF THAT.
10:49:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:49:09AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:10AM THANK YOU, GENTLEMAN.
10:49:10AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:49:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:49:15AM WHERE TO START.
10:49:16AM I THINK BASED ON A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE DEVELOPER'S
10:49:20AM PRESENTATION, I PROBABLY GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY EVERY
10:49:25AM BOARD MEMBER UP HERE COULD STIPULATE THAT IT'S A NICE
10:49:29AM PROJECT.
10:49:30AM IT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:49:32AM IT'S A NICE PROJECT.
10:49:33AM THE PROBLEM -- I THINK WE COULD ALL STIPULATE THAT.
10:49:36AM IT'S GOOD.
10:49:38AM BUT I THINK WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, AT WHAT COST?
10:49:41AM BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY, WE ONLY HAVE X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR
10:49:46AM PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:49:47AM X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FOR PROJECTS IN THE CRAs.
10:49:51AM I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ALL HUNG UP ON.
10:49:54AM IF WE DO THIS, THEN WHAT ARE WE MISSING OUT ON?
10:49:56AM WHEN TRYING TO WEIGH APPLES TO APPLES AND ORANGES TO ORANGES
10:50:01AM AS WE LOOK AT THINGS.
10:50:02AM RANDOM THOUGHTS AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS.
10:50:05AM ONE IN 50 YEARS, WE'LL HAVE A 50-YEAR-OLD BUILDING.
10:50:08AM TRY TO AMORTIZE COSTS OVER 50 YEARS, PICK MY LOTTERY NUMBERS
10:50:12AM FOR ME BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY ARBITRARY
10:50:17AM TO TRY TO REALLY CREATE A SCIENCE OF THIS OVER A 50-YEAR
10:50:23AM PERIOD.
10:50:23AM IS THAT BUILDING GOING TO BE STANDING IN 50 YEARS?
10:50:25AM I DON'T THINK WE'RE BUILDING IT OUT OF MARBLE.
10:50:28AM INFILL, WHEN I LOOK AT INFILL DEVELOPMENTS, I WOULD CONSIDER
10:50:34AM INFILL DEVELOPMENTS NOT NECESSARILY ON THESE MAJOR STREETS
10:50:36AM LIKE A NEBRASKA OR MLK OR A LAKE OR COLUMBUS.
10:50:42AM I WOULD LOOK AT INFILL AS WE HAVE LOTS OF PROPERTIES IN OUR
10:50:47AM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR
10:50:50AM HOUSING, FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
10:50:54AM RIGHT SET THE CONVERSATION, 80% AMI FOR ONE BEDROOM UNIT,
10:50:59AM 80% AMI IS 1565, DID I PULL THAT NUMBER UP CORRECTLY?
10:51:04AM >> SOUNDS RIGHT.
10:51:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S FOR A ONE BEDROOM.
10:51:11AM TWO BEDROOMS ALMOST $1900.
10:51:13AM LIKE 1878.
10:51:14AM IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SAY THAT WE'RE BUILDING HOUSING FOR
10:51:18AM PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:51:23AM I GET WE NEED HOUSING.
10:51:26AM I HEAR A LOT IN PUBLIC COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT THIS
10:51:29AM PROJECT SHOULD BE, AND IT WAS -- I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A
10:51:33AM DISCONNECT FROM WHAT THE PROJECT IS VERSUS THAT.
10:51:37AM YOU'RE NOT HEARING ANYTHING NEW FOR THE FIRST TIME.
10:51:41AM BECAUSE THE FIRST MEETING WE HAD, I GAVE YOU MY CONCERNS
10:51:46AM ABOUT THIS.
10:51:47AM UPFRONT AND HONEST ABOUT THIS PROJECT FROM DAY ONE.
10:51:50AM TABLE OR NO TABLE.
10:51:53AM I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE DID
10:51:56AM THE AGENDA REVIEW, TO THE CREDIT OF THE CRA STAFF AND
10:52:00AM MS. PARKS, WHEN THEY PRESENTED THAT TABLE, IT WAS UP TO.
10:52:04AM I THINK THOSE WORDS -- I FOUGHT IT AT THAT TIME, BY THE WAY.
10:52:09AM IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THE CONVERSATION, I DIDN'T LIKE THE
10:52:11AM TABLE.
10:52:11AM I THOUGHT IT WAS DISINGENUOUS, MISLEADING, TO THEIR CREDIT,
10:52:16AM IT WASN'T AN ABSOLUTE.
10:52:18AM IT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE A YOU'RE GUARANTEED THIS.
10:52:21AM I THINK THE CRA STAFF HAS CLEARLY EXPLAINED THAT MAXIMUM IN
10:52:24AM THE STATE IS LIKE $80,000 PER UNIT FOR CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
10:52:30AM WHICH I THINK IS FAIRLY -- HONESTLY, SEEMS TO BE VERY
10:52:33AM GENEROUS FOR THESE PROJECTS.
10:52:35AM BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THESE TYPE OF FIGURES.
10:52:39AM I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
10:52:49AM 5 MILLION, 2 MILLION, 3 MILLION, A MILLION, DO YOU HAVE TO
10:52:54AM REPROGRAM MONEY TO GET THIS AMOUNT OR IS IT ALREADY IN A POT
10:52:57AM DESIGNATED FOR THIS PURPOSE?
10:53:01AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, DOLLARS WOULD --
10:53:02AM >>BELIX PARKS: CAN I SPEAK ON THAT?
10:53:04AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GO AHEAD, MS. PARKS.
10:53:06AM >>BELIX PARKS: YES, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, SIR.
10:53:08AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
10:53:09AM >>BELIX PARKS: CURRENTLY, AS IT STANDS FOR THE $2 MILLION
10:53:13AM OFFER, UNDER THE UNIT CREATION LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET, WE
10:53:17AM CAN SUSTAIN THAT $2 MILLION OFFER FOR THREE YEARS.
10:53:21AM COMES OUT TO BE LIKE 666 -- PER YEAR.
10:53:28AM YES.
10:53:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF APPLICANT'S WISH GRANTED FULL FUNDING 5
10:53:32AM MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION COST, WOULD THAT MONEY HAVE TO BE
10:53:35AM REPROGRAMMED?
10:53:35AM IF SO, WHERE WOULD THAT MONEY COME FROM?
10:53:42AM >>BELIX PARKS: THAT MONEY WILL HAVE TO BE REPROGRAMMED.
10:53:47AM TWO POTS OF MONEY.
10:53:49AM MR. McCRAY CAN -- INFRASTRUCTURE LINE ITEM AND THEN WE
10:53:55AM HAVE ALSO EAST TAMPA IMPROVEMENT LINE ITEM THAT WE USE AS
10:54:00AM WELL.
10:54:01AM IF WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT $5 MILLION ASK.
10:54:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REPROGRAM ADDITIONAL 3 MILLION FROM OTHER
10:54:11AM THINGS LIKE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMS,
10:54:14AM AM I CORRECT?
10:54:16AM >>BELIX PARKS: NO.
10:54:16AM 30% FOR FISCAL 2025 IS ALREADY SET.
10:54:21AM I WOULD HAVE TO REPROGRAM OUT OF ANOTHER POT OF MONEY.
10:54:25AM NOTHING WITHIN THE 30% ALLOCATION.
10:54:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT PROGRAMS REPROGRAMMED FROM?
10:54:31AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: SPECIFICALLY PROBABLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:54:33AM INFRASTRUCTURE LINE ITEM.
10:54:34AM YOU HAVE SOMETHING, A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY
10:54:37AM WHERE WE WILL BE PULLING OR REPROGRAMMING DOLLARS FROM THAT
10:54:40AM FUNDING SOURCE.
10:54:43AM NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD BE COMING FROM.
10:54:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF IT WAS 80,000, LIKE 1.6 OR IF IT WAS 2
10:54:55AM MILLION, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT, LIKE WE HAVE ANOTHER
10:54:58AM AGENDA ITEM COMING ON TODAY, COULD WE FUND BOTH OF THE
10:55:01AM PROJECTS WITHOUT REPROGRAMMING MONEY?
10:55:07AM >>BELIX PARKS: NO.
10:55:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU STATE AGAIN WHICH FUNDS -- IF WE
10:55:15AM FUNDED BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS, LET'S SAY EVEN AT THE REDUCED
10:55:18AM LEVEL OF 2 MILLION AND WE GET TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THIS
10:55:21AM AGENDA AND WE WERE TO FUND THAT ASK, WHICH IS A MUCH BIGGER
10:55:26AM PROJECT, OF COURSE, WHERE WOULD ALL THAT MONEY COME FROM?
10:55:29AM WHAT LINE ITEMS WOULD THAT MONEY HAVE TO COME FROM?
10:55:34AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO REPROGRAM FROM
10:55:36AM EXISTING HOUSING PROGRAMS SPECIFIC TO DOWN PAYMENT
10:55:39AM ASSISTANCE, CREATION AND CONVERSION.
10:55:40AM WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS DURING THE BUDGET
10:55:45AM PRESENTATION UNDER THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
10:55:48AM I WILL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO EAST TAMPA.
10:55:50AM THE CAC DURING OUR SEVERAL BUDGET WORKSHOPS IN MAY AND JUNE,
10:55:56AM WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO AT LEAST 50% OF THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE
10:55:58AM HAVE FORECASTED THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF
10:56:01AM REQUESTS COMING THROUGH THE CAC TO THE BOARD.
10:56:05AM I WILL TELL YOU THAT BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT
10:56:07AM WE'VE HAD BUDGETARILY IN EAST TAMPA, WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT
10:56:12AM UP TO 46%.
10:56:13AM WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE
10:56:17AM FORTHCOMING IS THE 30% DESIGNATED BY THE BOARD, BUT THE EAST
10:56:22AM TAMPA CAC SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT MORE MONEY BE PLACED FOR
10:56:26AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES IN EAST TAMPA BECAUSE THAT
10:56:29AM HAS BEEN THE PRIORITY.
10:56:31AM I BELIEVE THAT EXACT AMOUNT IS 46.1%.
10:56:34AM MS. PARKS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
10:56:36AM WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING THAT
10:56:40AM ARE CURRENTLY IN THE QUEUE AND WILL BE COMING IN THE NEXT
10:56:45AM FISCAL YEAR, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO ANTICIPATE AND GET AS MUCH
10:56:48AM MONEY AS WE CAN TO ASSIST AND TRY TO SPREAD THAT AROUND TO
10:56:51AM AS MANY PROJECTS.
10:56:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY, I LIKE THE PROJECT.
10:56:58AM OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE PUT A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF EFFORT
10:57:01AM INTO THIS.
10:57:02AM I SAID THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
10:57:03AM MY BIGGEST CONCERN, I'M REALLY SENSITIVE WITH THE AREAS,
10:57:08AM ESPECIALLY EAST TAMPA CRA, THESE ARE SOME OF THE POOREST
10:57:13AM RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SOME OF THE POOREST
10:57:14AM TAXPAYERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:57:16AM THE TAXES -- COMING FROM SOME OF THE POOREST HOMEOWNERS AND
10:57:22AM BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:57:23AM SO WHEN WE'RE TAKING MONEY FROM POOR PEOPLE AND WHAT WE'RE
10:57:25AM DOING WITH IT, IT CAUSED ME A BIG PAUSE.
10:57:29AM WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FUNDING FROM DOWNTOWN OR CHANNELSIDE
10:57:34AM OR SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT MORE OPULENCE AND
10:57:37AM WEALTH.
10:57:38AM I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REALLY DILIGENT AND REALLY COGNIZANT
10:57:41AM OF THAT FACT OF WHO IS PAYING THIS BILL.
10:57:43AM I DON'T WANT -- WHEN I MAKE THIS DECISION, IT'S NOT GOING TO
10:57:47AM BE ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT OR BAD PROJECT.
10:57:50AM IT'S ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM, WHO IS PAYING THE
10:57:53AM TAXES ON THAT MONEY, AND WHAT GOOD IS COMING BACK TO THE
10:57:56AM COMMUNITY, THAT ROI.
10:58:01AM THAT'S MY OPINION.
10:58:02AM I'M OUT OF TIME.
10:58:02AM THANK YOU.
10:58:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:58:04AM I WOULD AGAIN, ASK, PLEASE, FOLKS, I'M HEARING A LOT OF
10:58:07AM MURMURING IN THE AUDIENCE.
10:58:09AM PLEASE, NO SPEAKING WHILE HERE.
10:58:10AM THANK YOU.
10:58:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANKS.
10:58:16AM I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN ABOUT YOUR
10:58:20AM DEFINITION OF INFILL BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH A COMP PLAN
10:58:25AM RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE SAYING ABSOLUTELY NO DENSITY INCREASES
10:58:29AM IN THESE AREAS THAT YOU THINK ARE THE ONLY PLACES FOR
10:58:32AM INFILL.
10:58:33AM SO I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND THE DENSITY BECAUSE
10:58:36AM THERE IS INFILL THAT WE NEED TO DO ALONG THESE CORRIDORS.
10:58:39AM THESE CORRIDORS RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THEM ARE SINGLE STORY,
10:58:46AM OLD STRIP MALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:58:49AM YEAH, INFILL IS JUST A DIFFERENT -- IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT
10:58:53AM TYPE OF INFILL.
10:58:55AM THIS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOW AND, QUITE FRANKLY, THE
10:58:57AM DEVELOPER INITIALLY WANTED TO DO FOUR STORIES BUT THE BARRIO
10:59:00AM LATINO SAID NO.
10:59:01AM THAT'S ARBITRARY.
10:59:03AM WE'RE THE ONES THAT WORKED WITH THE BARRIO LATINO, I MEAN, I
10:59:07AM BELIEVE THAT -- I'M REALLY SORRY.
10:59:11AM I HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING.
10:59:12AM IF YOU WANT TO TALK, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO GO OUT INTO THE
10:59:15AM LOBBY TO CHAT.
10:59:16AM PLEASE, I CANNOT HEAR BOTH OF YOU ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
10:59:20AM THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING FOR INFILL.
10:59:24AM INFILL IS THE DEFINITE ISSUE.
10:59:26AM I AM COMPLETELY TORN WITH THIS PROJECT.
10:59:33AM I KNOW THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE IS NOT ENOUGH TO DO THIS
10:59:38AM AND MORE THINGS.
10:59:39AM BUT I DO BELIEVE IN THE TRANSFORMATIONALNESS OF THIS
10:59:42AM PARTICULAR PROJECT ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND.
10:59:45AM I THINK ONE OF MY QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK THE DEVELOPER'S
10:59:51AM REPRESENTATIVE OR IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO SPEAK IS WHAT
10:59:54AM HAPPENS IF THE BOARD ONLY GIVES YOU $2 MILLION, CAN YOU
10:59:59AM STILL BUILD THIS PROJECT?
11:00:05AM >> THAD BEREDAY FOR URBAN REWORX.
11:00:07AM I APPRECIATE THAT THE ASK IS A LOT OF MONEY.
11:00:10AM $2 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.
11:00:12AM 5 MILLION.
11:00:13AM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2 MILLION AND 5 MILLION IS 5
11:00:16AM MILLION GETS THE PROJECT DONE AND WE WILL DELIVER 20
11:00:20AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT PEOPLE CAN LAY THEIR HEADS IN
11:00:22AM AT NIGHT AND DELIVER THEM SOON APPROXIMATELY THREE TO FOUR
11:00:26AM MONTHS WE'LL COMMENCE OUR 18-MONTH CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
11:00:29AM $2 MILLION TO ME IS ALSO A GENEROUS AMOUNT AND WE WOULD BE
11:00:35AM GRATEFUL TO RECEIVE IT, BUT IT'S DELAY BECAUSE THAT DOES NOT
11:00:39AM COMPLETE THE CAPITAL STACK.
11:00:41AM THEN THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE DO?
11:00:44AM WE WOULD SEEK ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT MAY EXIST
11:00:48AM THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE COUNTY, OR THE STATE, THE
11:00:51AM FEDS.
11:00:51AM WE WILL CONTINUE OUR EFFORT TO DELIVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO
11:00:55AM THIS COMMUNITY AND TO PUT HEADS IN BEDS.
11:00:58AM THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
11:00:59AM THAT'S WHAT I CARE ABOUT.
11:01:00AM WHETHER THAT HAPPENS OR NOT, I REALLY CAN'T -- I DON'T WANT
11:01:07AM TO MAKE COMMITMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT
11:01:09AM I CAN FULFILL AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT SUBSIDY COMES
11:01:11AM FROM.
11:01:12AM I'VE SPENT TWO AND A HALF YEARS ON THE JOURNEY ASKING CITY
11:01:16AM OF TAMPA LEADERS HOW DO WE BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHO IS
11:01:20AM GOING TO PAY FOR IT?
11:01:21AM WHAT LEVEL OF SUBSIDY IS AVAILABLE?
11:01:23AM I'VE DONE EVERYTHING ASKED OF ME AND HERE WE ARE READY TO
11:01:27AM GO.
11:01:27AM THIS BOARD CAN APPROVE THIS PROJECT AND GET IT DONE TODAY.
11:01:30AM THE 2 MILLION TO ME IS DELAY AND MORE DELAY.
11:01:35AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CONTEXT OF DELAY.
11:01:37AM I DO ALSO NEED TO CLARIFY AND LIKE TO SUBMIT SOME LETTERS OF
11:01:41AM SUPPORT FOR THE RECORD.
11:01:41AM JUST BEFORE WE LOSE OUR TIME.
11:01:43AM MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE IN.
11:01:44AM BUT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE MADE AT THE BOARD'S REQUEST AT THE
11:01:49AM LAST HEARING TO REDUCE THE SUBSIDY LEVEL NOT JUST -- I WAS
11:01:53AM ORIGINALLY ASKED TO BUILD 80% AMI.
11:01:56AM THAT IS THE MISSING MIDDLE AND THE LEVEL THAT HAS THE LEAST
11:01:59AM AMOUNT OF SUBSIDY AVAILABLE IS THE LEVEL THAT THE CITY NEEDS
11:02:02AM TO FOCUS ITS FUNDING EFFORTS ON.
11:02:04AM I WAS TOLD THAT.
11:02:05AM I DIDN'T INVENT THAT.
11:02:07AM I'VE LEARNED THROUGH THIS JOURNEY AND WE'RE HAPPY TO OFFER
11:02:10AM LOWER AMI SUBSIDY LEVELS THAT WE'RE NOT SEEKING FUNDING FOR,
11:02:14AM BUT IF WE GET LESS THAN THE FULL AMOUNT OF OUR SPECIAL
11:02:18AM PROJECTS GRANT, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO REVERT BACK TO THE 80%
11:02:21AM AMI LEVEL, WHICH MIGHT BE DISAPPOINTING.
11:02:28AM I'D LOVE TO GET THE BEST RESIDENTS THE MOST NEEDY AND
11:02:32AM DESERVING RESIDENTS IN OUR HOUSING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND
11:02:36AM CONTINUE DOING OUR BEST TO DO THAT.
11:02:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
11:02:41AM SO THAT MAKES SENSE.
11:02:42AM I'M REALLY CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THE REST OF MY COUNCIL
11:02:49AM MEMBERS HAVE TO SAY.
11:02:52AM I'M HOLDING THE BUDGET IN MY HANDS RIGHT NOW, SO I KNOW HOW
11:02:57AM LITTLE MONEY THERE IS.
11:02:58AM AND THIS IS THE CONUNDRUM OF IF WE GIVE THIS AMOUNT OF
11:03:03AM MONEY, THIS PROJECT MAY NOT HAPPEN.
11:03:05AM I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
11:03:10AM I ALSO HAVE ISSUES WITH NUMBER 8 IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
11:03:20AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:03:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:03:25AM NOW WE'LL GO SECOND ROUND.
11:03:27AM I WANT TO SPEAK BEFORE THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
11:03:28AM IN TERMS OF MY VIEWS ON THIS, I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
11:03:33AM I DO IT UNDER A LOT OF DIFFERENT VIEWS.
11:03:35AM NUMBER ONE IS, THIS IS A REAL CORRIDOR GAME CHANGER THAT I
11:03:39AM THINK WE HAVE TO SUPPORT AS MUCH AS WE CAN UP TO THE $5
11:03:41AM MILLION.
11:03:42AM THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T LOSE TRACK OF, THIS RADICALLY
11:03:46AM TRANSFORMS A CORRIDOR THAT HAS BEEN TRAGICALLY IGNORED IN
11:03:51AM TAMPA, AREA WHERE VIRTUALLY NO INVESTMENT IN, THE
11:03:54AM INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ROADS, HOUSING, THE PEOPLE THERE AND SO
11:03:56AM FORTH.
11:03:57AM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY CHANGES THAT.
11:03:58AM WE ALSO HAVE, WHEN I SAY COMMUNITY SUPPORT, I THINK THIS IS
11:04:03AM ORGANIC, SINCERE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, FROM THE HEART.
11:04:09AM THE FOLKS WHO SPOKE HERE, SPOKE FROM THE HEART.
11:04:12AM THEY DON'T HAVE A DIME TO BEGIN FROM THIS.
11:04:15AM AND THEY SPOKE FROM THE HEART.
11:04:16AM I THINK OF MY GOOD FRIEND SCHLET WHO DOES SUCH A WONDERFUL
11:04:21AM JOB WEARING SO MANY DIFFERENT HATS.
11:04:24AM SHE TALKED ABOUT, AGAIN, SPEAKING FROM THE HEART.
11:04:26AM TALKING ABOUT THOSE LETTERS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MISSING
11:04:28AM HOUSING.
11:04:29AM DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE HOUSING AND
11:04:31AM THINKING OF TAKING THEIR OWN LIVES.
11:04:34AM THAT'S TERRIBLE.
11:04:34AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
11:04:35AM THAT HAPPENS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO REACH ROCK BOTTOM.
11:04:40AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN LIFE WHERE THERE'S BLACK AND
11:04:44AM WHITE AND HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT OR HUNDRED PERCENT WRONG.
11:04:47AM THEN THERE IS THE GRAY.
11:04:48AM I RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT FOLKS WHO ARE PUSHING
11:04:51AM BACK ON THIS.
11:04:52AM SOME OF THE ISSUES ASSERTED ARE NOT UNREASONABLE.
11:04:54AM BUT I THINK THE OVERWHELMING RATIONALE FOR THIS IS TO
11:04:59AM STRONGLY SUPPORT IT.
11:05:00AM I ALSO THINK ABOUT, AND I KNOW I'M COMPARING APPLES TO
11:05:03AM ORANGES HERE, SOME OF THE OTHER CRAs AND WHAT WE'VE DONE
11:05:06AM THERE WITH BIG ASK US.
11:05:08AM GO TO DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:05:09AM TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE, DEALING WITH A PROCEDURAL ISSUE THAT
11:05:12AM I'LL SUPPORT FOR THE MUSEUM OF ART.
11:05:14AM I VOTED AGAINST PART 2 OF THE MUSEUM OF ART WHEN WE ENDED UP
11:05:18AM GIVING $25 MILLION, ALSO $25 MILLION TO THE STRAZ CENTER.
11:05:21AM I VOTED -- STRIKE THAT, FOR THE ENTIRE THING OF THAT.
11:05:24AM IN MY VIEW, THOSE WERE PROJECTS THAT STRETCHED DOUBLE INTO A
11:05:29AM HOME RUN.
11:05:29AM BY SHRINKING THIS, WE'RE SHRINKING A HOME RUN INTO A SINGLE.
11:05:33AM AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
11:05:34AM AND BY VOTING THIS DOWN AND MAKING THIS PROJECT IN EFFECT
11:05:40AM IMPOSSIBLE, WE'LL PROBABLY BE KILLING THIS PROJECT.
11:05:42AM SO WHAT I THINK WE HAVE TO EXPLORE IN THE TIME THAT WE HAVE,
11:05:46AM IF THE VOTES ARE NOT THERE FOR THE FULL AMOUNT, PEOPLE TALK
11:05:50AM ABOUT TWO, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT FIVE.
11:05:52AM THERE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS IN BETWEEN THERE.
11:05:54AM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET DONE TO SAVE THIS PROJECT AS MUCH AS
11:05:58AM WE CAN.
11:05:58AM AGAIN, I'M WILLING TO VOTE YES ON THIS TODAY, BUT I'M ALSO
11:06:02AM HEARING WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY.
11:06:04AM AND IF WE WANT TO GET TO YES WITH THE GREATEST AMOUNT GIVEN,
11:06:07AM WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
11:06:09AM IN TERMS OF WHAT AMOUNT CAN GO FORWARD TO STILL GET THIS
11:06:14AM PROJECT DONE.
11:06:14AM AGAIN, I'M A YES ON THIS.
11:06:16AM 100%, BUT IF THE VOTES AREN'T THERE, THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT
11:06:20AM SAVING THE PROJECT, I THINK.
11:06:23AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AND BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN
11:06:25AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:06:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: A FEW THINGS, I AGREE WITH THE COMMUNITY
11:06:31AM THAT THE LINES FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRA SHOULD HAVE BEEN DRAWN
11:06:36AM THE WAY THEY ARE AND MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN BRIEF US LATER ON
11:06:39AM WHY THEY WERE DRAWN THAT WAY.
11:06:40AM CONCEIVABLY, WE COULD GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND TRY TO
11:06:43AM GET THEM MOVED.
11:06:46AM IT'S NOT TRUE THAT POOR PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THE TAXES IN
11:06:49AM YBOR CITY.
11:06:49AM WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT PART OF YBOR CITY IS IN THE CRA.
11:06:52AM FOR EXAMPLE, SANCHEZ Y HAYA OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, IT
11:06:57AM WILL GENERATE MORE THAN THE SUBSIDY.
11:06:59AM I DON'T LIKE USING THAT AS AN ANALYSIS, BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING
11:07:02AM MONEY FROM PEOPLE WHO CAN BARELY AFFORD TO PAY THEIR BILLS
11:07:06AM TO GIVE TO RICH PEOPLE.
11:07:09AM IT'S ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE.
11:07:11AM THAT YBOR CORRIDOR IS GOING TO BE CONTRIBUTING TO THE
11:07:13AM OVERALL GOOD OF EAST TAMPA.
11:07:15AM I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL FOR THAT TO
11:07:17AM BE THERE.
11:07:18AM BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT ISSUE.
11:07:23AM THE REAL CONCERN THE COMMUNITY HAS, WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR
11:07:25AM THE PEOPLE IN THE HEART OF EAST TAMPA?
11:07:28AM WE HAVE TO GET MORE SERIOUS ABOUT PROJECTS THERE.
11:07:31AM THE PROBLEM AS PEOPLE HAVE SAID IS THAT THE PEOPLE WITH
11:07:35AM MONEY, THE BIG COMPANIES, THE RESOURCES COME FORWARD AND
11:07:37AM THEY PROPOSE PROJECTS, AND THEN THEY GET APPROVED, BUT THEY
11:07:40AM ARE NOT NECESSARILY IN THE HEART OF EAST TAMPA.
11:07:42AM AND WE NEED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW ORGANIZATIONS CAN WORK
11:07:46AM WITH THE COMMUNITY.
11:07:47AM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A DEVELOPER WHO IS NOT REALLY A
11:07:50AM DEVELOPER.
11:07:51AM HE WAS SOMEBODY WHO VOLUNTEERED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN
11:07:54AM TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, HE IDENTIFIED IN VOLUNTEERING
11:07:56AM THE COMMUNITY, HE'S TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS.
11:07:59AM MR. McCRAY, YOU TALKED ABOUT AT 40% AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
11:08:04AM WHICH THE CAC ASKED FOR IT, THERE'S ABOUT 6.7 MILLION IN THE
11:08:07AM NEXT YEAR.
11:08:09AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, THAT'S WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
11:08:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT THERE'S ALSO A BANK OF MONEY BUILDING UP
11:08:12AM BECAUSE THE CITY STAFF WOULDN'T LET US MOVE PROJECTS
11:08:15AM FORWARD.
11:08:15AM IS THAT SEVEN POINT SOMETHING?
11:08:17AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: MS. PARKS, DO YOU HAVE THAT EXACT NUMBER?
11:08:23AM >>BELIX PARKS: YES.
11:08:24AM SO CURRENTLY, I'M GOING TO BREAK DOWN THAT 7.5 BECAUSE
11:08:33AM YOU'RE MENTIONING 7.5.
11:08:34AM THE ROLLOVER WOULD NOT BE 7.5.
11:08:37AM IT WOULD ACTUALLY COME UP TO 3.5.
11:08:39AM BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE SET TO ENCUMBER IN THE REHAB
11:08:46AM PROGRAM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST MONUMENTAL PROGRAMS RIGHT
11:08:51AM NOW --
11:08:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: SUPPORT THE REHAB PROGRAM -- BUT THE POINT
11:08:55AM I'M MAKING IS THAT WE DID NOT SET A CRITERIA IN ADVANCE.
11:08:57AM AND THIS IS AN EVOLUTION OF THE PROCESS, AND WE'RE BOARD
11:09:03AM GUIDING THE PROCESS, BECAUSE WE DID NOT SET THESE RULES.
11:09:05AM WE PUT YOU GUYS IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION.
11:09:08AM BECAUSE WE DID NOT EXPLAIN WHETHER FIRST IN, FIRST OUT, LOOK
11:09:11AM AT IT QUARTERLY OR TWICE A YEAR, WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE
11:09:15AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY, WE DON'T HAVE TO
11:09:19AM SHUFFLE THE MONEY AROUND US.
11:09:20AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT PLUS THE $9 MILLION PROJECT PLUS
11:09:23AM WHATEVER ELSE IS IN THE PIPELINE, THEN WE HAVE TO SHUFFLE
11:09:25AM MONEY AROUND.
11:09:26AM ISN'T THAT CORRECT?
11:09:27AM THE PROBLEM IS THE DEVELOPER THOUGHT WE WERE FIRST IN, FIRST
11:09:30AM OUT.
11:09:30AM INSTEAD WE'RE ANTICIPATING ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS.
11:09:32AM IF WE ONLY APPROVE THIS PROJECT AND NO OTHER PROJECT,
11:09:36AM CONSIDERING THE 3.8 MILLION PLUS THE 6.4, WE DON'T HAVE TO
11:09:40AM REALLOCATE MONEY, CORRECT?
11:09:41AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:09:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S NOT FAIR TO SAY WE'LL REALLOCATE OR
11:09:47AM REDUCE MONEY FOR OTHER PROGRAMS.
11:09:48AM WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE THE $9 MILLION PROJECT, NOT THIS ONE.
11:09:52AM ONE LAST THING, MR. BEREDAY, STAFF SUGGESTED YOU HAVE ACCESS
11:09:56AM TO DEBT TO COVER THAT BALANCE.
11:09:58AM I DON'T THINK THE 2 MILLION IS A REAL NUMBER.
11:10:00AM I THINK IT IS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER.
11:10:02AM YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY SAYING WE WON'T GET THE LOWER AMI WITHOUT
11:10:05AM 5 MILLION.
11:10:06AM IF WE WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE COMMUNITY, HAVE TO
11:10:08AM OFFER THE HIGHER AMOUNT.
11:10:10AM TO COVER THAT $3 MILLION GAP, YOU HAD ACCESS TO DEBT, CAN
11:10:13AM YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT DEBT VERSUS EQUITY MEANS
11:10:16AM TO A PROJECT LIKE THIS?
11:10:18AM >> WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO DEBT TO FUND THE $3 MILLION
11:10:20AM DEFICIT.
11:10:21AM IN FACT, IF AWARDED 2 MILLION, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE
11:10:25AM ACCESS TO THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SECURED
11:10:28AM AT THE $5 MILLION LEVEL.
11:10:29AM AGAIN, IT'S DELAY AND UNCERTAINTY.
11:10:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU COULD BORROW MONEY FOR 3 MILLION,
11:10:35AM COULD SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT EQUITY
11:10:38AM MEANS VERSUS THE DEBT?
11:10:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, YOUR TIME IS UP.
11:10:42AM I'LL LET YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION AND THAT'S IT.
11:10:46AM >> MIKE LIBERATORE.
11:10:47AM MY COMPANY IS CALLED SYNTHESIS, LLC.
11:10:50AM I'M A PARTNER IN THE PROJECT PUSH REWORKS.
11:10:53AM DEBT SIZING IS BASED ON HOW WE CAN PAY IT BACK.
11:10:57AM HOW WE PAY BACK THIS MONEY IS BASED ON THE AFFORDABILITY
11:11:00AM RESTRICTIONS WE SHOWED.
11:11:02AM WE CALCULATE A NET INCOME AND WE BACK INTO THAT THE AMOUNT
11:11:05AM OF DEBT THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PROJECT.
11:11:07AM RIGHT NOW WE'RE CALCULATING ROUGHLY 2.3 MILLION, 2.2, 2.3
11:11:11AM MILLION AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT.
11:11:12AM IF WE INCREASE INCOME, WE CAN INCREASE DEBT BUT CAPPED BASED
11:11:16AM ON THE INCOME.
11:11:17AM WITH THE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:11:19AM I CAN'T ADD MORE DEBT BECAUSE THE BANK IS NOT GOING TO GIVE
11:11:22AM US THIS MONEY IF WE JUST ASK.
11:11:24AM THEY'LL LOOK AT INCOME PROJECTION.
11:11:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:11:27AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:11:28AM ARE YOU GOING TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS?
11:11:30AM LET'S DO THIS.
11:11:32AM IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS, I'LL GIVE YOU FIVE
11:11:36AM MINUTES GROSS.
11:11:38AM LET'S DO FIVE MINUTES STRAIGHT THROUGH.
11:11:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK I'LL TAKE LONG.
11:11:42AM I'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT CAPITAL STACK AND FINANCING IN THE
11:11:49AM TWO YEARS THAN I EVER THOUGHT I WOULD WANT TO KNOW AS AN AIR
11:11:53AM TRAFFIC CONTROLLER.
11:11:53AM IT'S GUT WRENCHING.
11:11:59AM YOU HAVE COME TO THE TABLE WITH SOMETHING INTERESTING.
11:12:05AM TRANSFORMATIONAL.
11:12:06AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU SAID RADICALLY.
11:12:10AM OUR VERY FIRST DISCUSSION, TALKED ABOUT THE SCALE.
11:12:13AM WHEN I LOOK AT THE SCALE, ESPECIALLY THESE AREAS, I WOULD
11:12:15AM LOVE TO SEE AN ENTIRE BLOCK TRANSFORMED WITH COMMERCIAL
11:12:19AM RETAIL AND SERVICES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:12:21AM THAT'S WHAT I LOOK AT RADICAL TRANSFORMATION.
11:12:24AM I'LL CONCEDE WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID ABOUT THE INFILL.
11:12:29AM I WAS WRONG.
11:12:30AM IN MY MIND, TALKING ABOUT INFILL, I WAS THINKING OF
11:12:34AM SOMETHING ELSE.
11:12:35AM YOU ARE CORRECT.
11:12:36AM I WITHDRAW MY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
11:12:38AM THANK YOU FOR RIGHT-SETTING MY HEAD ON THAT.
11:12:40AM STILL THE PROBLEM, THERE'S SO MUCH MONEY IN THE BANK
11:12:47AM ACCOUNT.
11:12:48AM IT IS WHAT THAT IS.
11:12:49AM MAYBE A MISLEADING THING.
11:12:51AM CEDRIC TO CLARIFY THAT.
11:12:52AM BUT I THINK IF THEY GO AT THE 2 MILLION, WE DON'T HAVE TO
11:12:56AM REPROGRAM.
11:12:57AM FIVE MILLION, HAVE TO REPROGRAM I THINK IS WHAT I HEARD.
11:13:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: 3.8 MILLION PLUS 6.7 MILLION, ONLY REASON WE
11:13:08AM HAVE TO REALLOCATE IS BECAUSE OF THE 9 MILLION OR ANY FUTURE
11:13:14AM PROJECT.
11:13:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK SHE WAS SAYING BECAUSE THAT MONEY
11:13:16AM IS BEING ALLOCATED, THEY ARE ABOUT TO ALLOCATE THAT INTO
11:13:20AM THESE OTHER PROGRAMS, CORRECT?
11:13:23AM MS. PARKS IF YOU'RE STILL ON OR MR. McCRAY.
11:13:26AM CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT?
11:13:28AM I THINK WE KIND OF HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:13:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE ONLY APPROVE THIS PROJECT FOR $5
11:13:35AM MILLION, WOULD WE HAVE TO REALLOCATE MONEY?
11:13:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: WAIT A MINUTE.
11:13:39AM LET'S LET BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN --
11:13:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. PARKS.
11:13:45AM WHAT IS THE BUDGET IMPLICATION --
11:13:51AM >>BELIX PARKS: THE BUDGET IMPLICATION IS THAT WE WILL HAVE
11:13:54AM TO REPROGRAM FROM OTHER LINE ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE 30%
11:13:58AM ALLOCATION TO FUND AT THE FULL $5 MILLION.
11:14:03AM CURRENTLY AT THE $2 MILLION REQUEST WE CAN FUND UNDER THE
11:14:07AM UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION LINE ITEM UNDER THE 30%
11:14:10AM ALLOCATION AS IT STANDS.
11:14:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:14:15AM BEFORE MY TIME RUNS OUT, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
11:14:17AM IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN YOU GET THIS FAR INTO A PROJECT YOU
11:14:20AM CAN'T TURN THE CLOCK BACK.
11:14:21AM I ALMOST WISH YOU WOULD HAVE APPEALED THE BARRIO LATINO
11:14:25AM DECISION TO US BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN
11:14:27AM HIGHER DENSITY.
11:14:28AM HOW MANY UNITS WOULD THE PROJECT HAVE BEEN?
11:14:31AM >> 29 UNITS.
11:14:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 29 UNITS, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO THAT
11:14:35AM WITH LOWER SUBSIDY PER UNIT BECAUSE OF THE SCALE?
11:14:38AM >> IT HELPS.
11:14:39AM IT CERTAINLY HELPS.
11:14:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE YOU TOO FAR DOWN THE LINE TO BE ABLE
11:14:45AM TO RECONSIDER THAT?
11:14:50AM >> NOT FROM A CONSTRUCTION OR DESIGN STANDPOINT.
11:14:53AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE WITH THE BARRIO
11:14:57AM LATINO COMMISSION AND OUR ENTITLEMENTS WHICH AT THIS POINT
11:15:00AM ARE SECURED.
11:15:01AM IF YOU WERE TO SEND US BACK THERE, I ASSUME WE WOULD HAVE TO
11:15:04AM GO THROUGH MORE PUBLIC HEARING AND PROCESS.
11:15:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYBODY LISTENING THAT HAS A PROJECT,
11:15:09AM WHEN YOU RUN INTO THIS TYPE OF THING, COME TALK TO US.
11:15:13AM THERE IS A SHARED VISION AMONGST OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND OUR
11:15:16AM COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN WE'RE OPERATING AS COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY
11:15:19AM THESE CRITICAL, LIKE THE NEBRASKAS, FLORIDAS, COLUMBUS, WHAT
11:15:25AM THE STREETS WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
11:15:27AM >> FROM RECOLLECTION, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I
11:15:29AM THINK OUR SUBSIDY LEVEL AT THE 29 UNITS WAS MORE AROUND
11:15:32AM $200,000 PER UNIT.
11:15:38AM SO IT HELPED, BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE AS WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY,
11:15:41AM WHATEVER THE CORRECT LEVEL IS.
11:15:43AM ONE OTHER COMMENT, IF I COULD THROW INTO THE RESPONSE, WE
11:15:46AM HOPE TO PARTICIPATE WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS WHO ARE IN THE
11:15:49AM ROOM AND WHO SPOKE TODAY IN LARGER SCALE TRANSFORMATION IN
11:15:54AM THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE IN.
11:15:56AM YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THEM SPEAK.
11:15:58AM THEY OWN CONTIGUOUS PROPERTIES.
11:16:00AM THE CRA OWNS PROPERTIES NEAR US.
11:16:01AM THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS PROPERTIES NEAR US THAT IN MY OPINION
11:16:04AM ARE ELIGIBLE FOR NEW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION.
11:16:07AM WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
11:16:10AM BUT THIS CATALYST PROJECT IS THE VERY FIRST THING THAT NEEDS
11:16:14AM TO OCCUR IN ORDER FOR THOSE OTHER PROJECTS TO GET DONE.
11:16:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL GO AHEAD WITH THE CAC RECOMMENDATION,
11:16:26AM BUT I WOULDN'T DO ABOVE THAT.
11:16:28AM YOU KNOW FROM PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS THAT'S REALLY PUSHING
11:16:31AM THE LIMITS OF MY FISCAL CONSERVATISM.
11:16:35AM I'LL SIDE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CAC.
11:16:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: GUYS, WE ARE RUNNING UP AGAINST 11:30.
11:16:42AM I WANT TO HAVE A VOTE AND BE DONE WITH THIS ISSUE BY 11:35.
11:16:46AM THAT IS A LOT OF TIME.
11:16:47AM BOARD MEMBER, MANISCALCO, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
11:16:49AM STAFF?
11:16:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:16:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD.
11:16:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED.
11:16:58AM IF WE APPROVE THE 5 MILLION, IT WOULD TRIGGER REPROGRAMMING
11:17:03AM OF OTHER FUNDS, CORRECT?
11:17:06AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CORRECT.
11:17:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON MADE A
11:17:10AM COMMENT, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD IT.
11:17:12AM IF WE APPROVE THE 5 MILLION FOR THIS, THAT DOESN'T TRIGGER
11:17:16AM REPROGRAMMING IT, UNLESS WHAT IS NUMBER 8?
11:17:20AM WHAT IS THE ASK ON NUMBER 8?
11:17:22AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THE REQUEST FOR ITEM 8 WAS 9.7 MILLION.
11:17:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW IF THEY NEED THE ABSOLUTE
11:17:29AM 9.7 MILLION OR WE CAN REDUCE THAT AND TRY TO BALANCE IT OUT.
11:17:35AM I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO NUMBER 8.
11:17:37AM MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED FOR ONE AND
11:17:43AM EIGHT THAT DOES NOT TRIGGER REPROGRAMMING OF DOLLARS?
11:17:47AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: SO, KEEP IN MIND, BOARD, THESE PROJECTS,
11:17:52AM THEY ARE DONE ON A REFUNDING BASIS.
11:17:54AM IT'S OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
11:17:55AM IT'S NOT JUST FOR FY '25 AND/OR FY '26 OR '27 OR '28.
11:18:01AM IT'S OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND VERY SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE
11:18:05AM AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE BOARD FOR SOME OF THE
11:18:09AM CULTURAL ART INSTITUTIONS DOWNTOWN.
11:18:10AM WE CAN ALWAYS REPROGRAM --
11:18:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: PLEASE, IF YOU ARE SPEAKING, RAISE YOUR HAND.
11:18:19AM PLEASE, MS. BURTON, PLEASE, NO MORE SPEAKING.
11:18:22AM PLEASE.
11:18:22AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:18:23AM GO AHEAD.
11:18:24AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THERE IS A POSSIBILITY.
11:18:27AM MS. PARKS HAS THE ACTUAL FIGURES IN FRONT OF HER FOR THE
11:18:31AM REMAINDER OF THE YEAR.
11:18:32AM THE EAST TAMPA CAC ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF THEIR BUDGET
11:18:37AM REPROGRAMS SOME FUNDING, AND THAT'S WHAT SHE'S LOOKING AT AT
11:18:40AM THIS POINT IN TIME IN SHARING WITH YOU THOSE LINE ITEMS AND
11:18:43AM WHAT WE COULD PUT TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN
11:18:46AM EAST TAMPA BECAUSE OF THE NEED.
11:18:48AM AND THAT HAS BEEN A PRIORITY THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED BY THE
11:18:51AM COMMUNITY AND THE MEMBERS OF THE CAC OVER RECENT YEARS.
11:18:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL WRAP IT UP WITH THIS.
11:18:58AM I DON'T WANT TO KILL THIS PROJECT.
11:18:59AM WE TALK ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE REDUCTION IN THE AMI AND THE
11:19:04AM DEBT AND EVERYTHING, THAT'S WHAT THE BANKS ARE GOING TO LOOK
11:19:06AM AT WHEN IT COMES TO DEBT AND FINANCING.
11:19:09AM WHAT IF IT GOES BACK UP -- WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST
11:19:12AM TIME, GOES BACK TO THE 80% OR HIGHER, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT
11:19:16AM WORK AT $2 MILLION, I DON'T KNOW.
11:19:19AM OR IS THE BOARD AND EVERYBODY HARD SET ON IT HAS TO BE 30%.
11:19:24AM I WAS BROKEN DOWN IN THE CHANGE FROM LAST MONTH.
11:19:29AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: MS. PARKS.
11:19:36AM >>BELIX PARKS: YOU'RE ASKING, SIR, IF IT'S UP TO 80% AMI,
11:19:43AM CHANGES THE PROJECT BACK TO 80% AMI IS IT GOING TO CHANGE --
11:19:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE BOARD
11:19:51AM WILL FEEL BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THE REDUCTION IN AMI AND
11:19:54AM THE GENTLEMAN CAME BACK WITH THE RECONFIGURATION OF HIS
11:20:02AM NUMBERS.
11:20:06AM >>BELIX PARKS: PER OUR CHART, 80% IS -- STANDARDS AND IN THE
11:20:12AM FLORIDA, HUD LIMITS IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE, YOU KNOW, INCOME
11:20:17AM THAT WE SUPPORT.
11:20:19AM MEANING THAT IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE A LOWER END INCOME AT
11:20:24AM 80%, EVEN THOUGH INCOMES HAVE INCREASED.
11:20:28AM YES, THERE IS A NEED WITHIN THE CITY TO CREATE 30 TO 50% AMI
11:20:35AM UNITS.
11:20:35AM WE ARE WORKING TO DO THAT.
11:20:38AM BUT 80% IS WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE WORKING WAGES 80% WHO
11:20:47AM NEED HOUSING AS WELL.
11:20:49AM THIS PROJECT COULD FROM THE BEGINNING, COME IN MY OFFICE,
11:20:55AM 80% AND THAT'S WHAT I LOOKED AT.
11:20:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:20:58AM NO MORE QUESTIONS.
11:20:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND, AGAIN, YOU HAVE
11:21:02AM QUESTIONS, YOU SAID.
11:21:03AM LET'S DO FIVE MINUTES IF YOU DON'T MIND.
11:21:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. FEELEY, IF YOU ARE HERE, JUST GOT A
11:21:09AM BRIGHT IDEA.
11:21:10AM WE STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY IN CITY COUNCIL HOUSING.
11:21:15AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
11:21:16AM LET ME JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT AND THEN US
11:21:22AM SAYING WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY IN HPF FUNDS, WE ONLY
11:21:26AM GOT $10 MILLION IN HPF FUNDS AND 5.6 HAVE GONE TO R MAP AND
11:21:32AM A MILLION TO HOMELESS, AND A MILLION -- THERE ARE NOT QUITE
11:21:35AM A BIT OF FUNDS.
11:21:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M TALKING ABOUT THE 50 MILLION THAT THIS
11:21:39AM COUNCIL APPROVED LAST BUDGET CYCLE.
11:21:41AM WE USED 5 MILLION EACH FOR TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS.
11:21:46AM ONE ON FLORIDA.
11:21:48AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE 50 MILLION WAS BASED ON THE MILLAGE
11:21:50AM INCREASE.
11:21:51AM THERE WAS NOT 50 MILLION.
11:21:52AM I HAD TO COME BACK AND ASK YOU TO BOND ON THOSE TWO FIVE
11:21:55AM MILLION, AND IF YOU ELECT TO BOND MORE, THAT'S YOUR OPTION,
11:22:00AM BUT THAT DIDN'T GO WELL ON THE FIRST TWO THAT WE BROUGHT
11:22:03AM BECAUSE THE MESSAGE OF COUNCIL WAS YOU DON'T WANT TO BOND.
11:22:07AM I DON'T WANT IT SHIFT OTHER HOUSING FUNDS.
11:22:12AM BUT I WANT TO QUICKLY JUST SHOW YOU, IN EAST TAMPA, BASED ON
11:22:18AM YOUR 30% FOR FISCAL YEAR '25, YOU HAVE 9.7 MILLION THAT WAS
11:22:24AM ALLOCATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:22:29AM YOU'LL SEE ON THIS, LET ME SCOOT IT UP OVER THE CLOSED
11:22:32AM CAPTIONING.
11:22:33AM FOR CREATION AND CONVERSION OF NEW UNITS, YOU HAVE 1.5
11:22:36AM MILLION.
11:22:36AM THE BOT THAT'S BEING ASKED ABOUT TODAY IN THESE PROJECTS,
11:22:41AM WHILE CEDRIC WAS INFORMING YOU, THEY ARE MULTIYEAR FUNDING,
11:22:44AM RIGHT?
11:22:44AM THEY WOULDN'T START -- THEY ARE GOING TO START A PORTION IN
11:22:48AM '25, PORTION IN '26, A PORTION IN '27.
11:22:51AM THEY ARE REIMBURSABLE FUNDS AS ARE ALL OF OUR FUNDS WHEN WE
11:22:55AM PUT OUT.
11:22:56AM WE DON'T GIVE YOU MONEY UNLESS THE WORK IS GETTING DONE.
11:22:59AM WE DON'T GO BACK AND CHASE TO GET THE MONEY BACK.
11:23:01AM 1.5 MILLION IS WHAT'S IN CREATION AND CONVERSION JUST FOR
11:23:07AM FISCAL YEAR 25.
11:23:08AM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO OR FIVE, LOOK AT THE BUCKET
11:23:12AM AND THE REALLOCATION IS COMING, AS MS. PARKS SAID, FROM
11:23:16AM EITHER THE HRRP OR WHEREVER.
11:23:19AM WE'LL HAVE TO TALK THROUGH THIS.
11:23:21AM IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, IN JANUARY, WE CAME TO YOU.
11:23:25AM THERE HAD ALWAYS BEEN THIS IDEA OF THE 30%, BUT NOBODY
11:23:29AM REALLY UNDERSTOOD, WHAT WAS THE 30%?
11:23:31AM HOW MUCH WAS THAT?
11:23:32AM ONCE WE TAKE THE 30%, HOW ARE WE BREAKING IT DOWN?
11:23:36AM WE BROUGHT YOU THOSE PARTS FOR EACH OF THE CRAs, AND THESE
11:23:41AM WERE, SO IN THIS CASE IT WAS 1.5 IN EAST TAMPA.
11:23:44AM YOU HAVE ALMOST 2 MILLION IN STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS.
11:23:48AM AND SO A LOT OF THE PROJECTS YOU'RE SEEING TODAY ARE ONES
11:23:52AM THAT ARE COMING AND ASKING YOU FOR AN AMOUNT THAT WILL BE
11:23:55AM SPREAD OUT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
11:23:57AM THE SECOND PART TO THAT IS THAT WE DID PROVIDE, BECAUSE THE
11:24:03AM OTHER PART WAS, PROJECTS WERE COMING TO YOU LIKE IN CENTRAL
11:24:05AM PARK WHERE THEY ARE ASKING FOR 700,000 SUBSIDY PER UNIT FOR
11:24:09AM AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:24:11AM AND THE BOARD LOOKED AT US AND SAID, GUYS, LIKE, WE KNOW
11:24:14AM 700,000 IS NOT RIGHT.
11:24:16AM BUT WHAT IS RIGHT?
11:24:17AM HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE?
11:24:19AM AND THE MATRIX WAS PUT TOGETHER, AND I REMEMBER THAT
11:24:23AM PRESENTATION IN JANUARY AS GUIDELINES.
11:24:26AM GUIDELINES TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S BEING DONE IN OTHER
11:24:29AM PARTS OF THE STATE, WHAT'S BEING DONE PURSUANT TO SHIP
11:24:32AM FUNDING AND OTHER FUNDS THAT WE TEND TO MIRROR A LOT OF OUR
11:24:36AM OWN PROGRAMS AFTER.
11:24:37AM SO I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT BECAUSE WHILE WE'RE
11:24:41AM TALKING ABOUT, OH, WE'LL JUST MOVE IT FROM HERE TO HERE, YOU
11:24:44AM ONLY START WITH A BUCKET OF 9.7 MILLION, THAT'S THE 30% IN
11:24:48AM EAST TAMPA TODAY.
11:24:49AM A LOT OF THAT MONEY IS GOING TO HRRP TO HELP HOMEOWNERS KEEP
11:24:56AM THEIR HOMES, ROOFS AND OTHER REPLACEMENTS.
11:25:01AM A LOT OF IT IS GOING TO DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
11:25:04AM I BELIEVE YOU ALREADY HELPED 40 HOMEOWNERS BUY HOMES IN EAST
11:25:07AM TAMPA UNDER THIS FISCAL YEAR.
11:25:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS MY TIME.
11:25:11AM THIS IS NOT MY QUESTION.
11:25:14AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: PLEASE GIVE HER BACK HER TIME.
11:25:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S FINE.
11:25:17AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:25:18AM I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
11:25:19AM IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT ABSOLUTELY, WE DON'T WANT TO
11:25:22AM TAKE AWAY FROM ANY OF THE -- WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.
11:25:26AM MY BASIC QUESTION WAS, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE AS CITY
11:25:31AM COUNCIL CAN FIND THE BRIDGE FUNDING FOR THIS?
11:25:33AM AND ONLY BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT PIECE
11:25:41AM OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
11:25:43AM I THINK THAT IN THE BALANCE OF, YES, DO WHAT THE CAC IS
11:25:49AM SAYING BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED FUNDS WE HAVE, CAN WE DO THE 2
11:25:54AM MILLION FROM THE EAST TAMPA CRA AND THEN CAN -- IS THERE
11:25:59AM SOMEONE ELSE WE CAN FIND?
11:26:00AM SEE, WHEN IT COMES TO BONDING, LIKE, A RANDOM PROJECT IS ONE
11:26:06AM THING, BUT I'M NOT LOOKING AT THIS PART OF NEBRASKA AVENUE
11:26:10AM -- I MEAN, YOU AND I HAVE SAT DOWN WITH THE DIRECTORS OF
11:26:13AM MANY DEPARTMENTS, WE'VE SAT DOWN WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS TO
11:26:16AM SAY WHAT CAN WE DO ON NEBRASKA AVENUE?
11:26:18AM IF THIS IS A CATALYST PROJECT FOR NEBRASKA AVENUE, WHERE CAN
11:26:22AM WE FIND THE OTHER THREE MILLION?
11:26:24AM CAN WE DO THAT?
11:26:25AM I PERSONALLY AM WILLING TO BOND FOR THAT.
11:26:28AM I'M NOT WILLING TO BOND FOR A TON OF THINGS, BUT A CATALYST
11:26:33AM PROJECT THAT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT EAST TAMPA CRA IS
11:26:37AM SAYING, WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE THAN 2 MILLION.
11:26:42AM AND I DON'T WANT THIS -- I THINK THAT WAS THE ISSUE WITH THE
11:26:45AM 10 MILLION, FOR ME, THESE WERE SORT OF RANDOM PROJECTS.
11:26:50AM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
11:26:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M TRYING TO RUN A MEETING.
11:26:58AM EVERYONE HAS SPOKEN.
11:27:02AM MOST FOLKS HAVE GONE TWICE AND SO FORTH.
11:27:04AM LET'S HAVE A MOTION.
11:27:06AM DOES ANYBODY WISH TO MAKE A MOTION?
11:27:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE $5 MILLION
11:27:11AM IN FUNDING.
11:27:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL SECOND WITH AN AMENDMENT TO SUPPORT $2
11:27:19AM MILLION WITH AN ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION FROM CITY COUNCIL TO
11:27:24AM FIND THE OTHER 3.
11:27:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WERE DOING A SUBSTITUTE.
11:27:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M DOING A SUBSTITUTE.
11:27:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR MOTION, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK IS FOR US TO
11:27:38AM DO 2 MILLION --
11:27:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: POINT OF ORDER ON THAT.
11:27:44AM BECAUSE WE ARE ACTING AS CRA BOARD, NOT COUNCIL, WE CAN'T
11:27:47AM ENCUMBER CITY COUNCIL IN THIS.
11:27:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:27:50AM I GUESS I WITHDRAW MY SECOND --
11:27:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE, I THINK
11:27:57AM PEOPLE CAN MAKE A MOTION WITH THE INTENT TO HAVE THIS
11:28:00AM DISCUSSION AT CITY COUNCIL.
11:28:02AM WHILE WE CAN'T OFFICIALLY PUT ON OUR CITY COUNCIL HATS, WE
11:28:05AM CAN SAY IT IS OUR UNOFFICIAL INTENT TO DO THAT.
11:28:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO ENSURE, AS FAR AS
11:28:12AM WHEN FOLKS ARE LISTENING OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN,
11:28:15AM UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN MAKE MOTIONS AND DO BUSINESS AS A
11:28:18AM BOARD FOR CRA BOARD.
11:28:19AM WE CAN'T DO THINGS AS A COUNCIL TODAY.
11:28:23AM WHETHER WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION OR NOT WOULD BE A SECOND --
11:28:26AM WOULD A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
11:28:29AM I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT IS RELUCTANT TO HAVE
11:28:31AM CONVERSATIONS ON COUNCIL.
11:28:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS THAT MOTION STILL GOING FORWARD?
11:28:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.
11:28:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL MAKE A MOTION --
11:28:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: WAIT.
11:28:43AM PLEASE, LET ME DO THIS.
11:28:46AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:28:49AM I'M GOING TO MOVE MY GAVEL OVER AND SECOND IT.
11:28:51AM THERE YOU GO.
11:28:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE
11:28:58AM MOTION TO LOWER THE SUBSIDY AMOUNT TO $2 MILLION.
11:29:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
11:29:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S A MOTION TO AMEND.
11:29:10AM IS THERE EVEN A SECOND FOR THAT?
11:29:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REDUCE FROM FIVE TO TWO?
11:29:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SECOND THAT.
11:29:17AM 9.7 MILLION IF I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THE CHART.
11:29:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
11:29:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE IS ONE MINUTE FOR ANY DISCUSSION.
11:29:37AM ONE MINUTE, SOLID.
11:29:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
11:29:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD.
11:29:45AM THANK YOU.
11:29:50AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:29:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: GUYS, AS THEN BOARD MEMBER CHAIRWOMAN HURTAK
11:29:58AM SAID, ONE MINUTE, BECAUSE, FOLKS, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 1.
11:30:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A SHORTFALL OF $3
11:30:06AM MILLION.
11:30:07AM WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION VERY SPECIFICALLY, THEY SAID, NO,
11:30:10AM IF WE ONLY APPROVE THIS PROJECT, WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLOCATE
11:30:13AM MONEY.
11:30:13AM WHEN BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN ASKED IT A DIFFERENT WAY, IT'S A
11:30:17AM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 30% OR 40% OF HOUSING, AND IT'S ALSO
11:30:20AM WHETHER YOU INCLUDE THE 7.5 OR 3.8 MILLION FROM THE MONEY.
11:30:24AM WE TAKE JUST THE 3.8 PLUS THE ADDITIONAL 1.2 FROM THIS
11:30:28AM YEAR'S 40%, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF MONEY LEFT OVER.
11:30:31AM THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY HAVE A PIPELINE OF OTHER PROJECTS
11:30:34AM THEY WANT TO FUND.
11:30:35AM THIS IS NOT THE PROJECT CAUSING THE PROBLEMS.
11:30:37AM IT IS THE PROJECTS THEY ANTICIPATE.
11:30:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:30:40AM ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COMMENT?
11:30:41AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:30:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW HOW THE VOTE WILL GO.
11:30:46AM THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT.
11:30:47AM THAT AREA THAT YOU'RE AT NOW THAT'S CALLED DISADVANTAGE USED
11:30:50AM TO BE AN UPPER MIDDLE CLASS.
11:30:52AM THE VALDES, AND ALL THE BUILDERS YOU HAD THERE.
11:30:56AM THE GARDEN THEATER.
11:30:57AM BARCELONA RESTAURANT.
11:30:58AM DOWN THE STREET, MARKET, EVERYTHING ELSE.
11:31:02AM IT WAS NOT AN ABANDONED NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:31:04AM WHAT HAPPENED THROUGH TIME, THEY DIED OFF AND EVERYBODY
11:31:08AM WANTED TO MOVE, KIDS INHERITED, WHATEVER, THEY LEFT AND
11:31:12AM STARTED GOING DOWN.
11:31:13AM WONDERFUL PROJECT.
11:31:15AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT 9,750,000, WHATEVER IT WAS, MINUS 5
11:31:19AM MILLION, YOU'RE CAUGHT.
11:31:22AM NOT YOUR PROJECT.
11:31:23AM WE'RE CAUGHT AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET OUT.
11:31:25AM THAT'S HOW IT IS.
11:31:26AM THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO WORK SOMETHING OUT.
11:31:28AM THE CHAIRMAN IS TRYING TO WORK SOMETHING OUT.
11:31:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE 2 MILLION.
11:31:33AM HOWEVER, I WANT TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THE CITY
11:31:35AM COUNCIL.
11:31:35AM THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
11:31:38AM WHETHER TONIGHT OR AT NEXT THURSDAY'S MEETING, I'M HAPPY TO
11:31:42AM MAKE A MOTION WHERE WE LOOK AT GENERAL FUND FUNDING FOR THE
11:31:45AM REMAINING THREE.
11:31:47AM THANK YOU.
11:31:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:31:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE
11:31:51AM GOING TO FIND IT IN THE GENERAL FUND.
11:31:53AM WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT BUDGET.
11:31:56AM WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN BONDING.
11:31:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID THE WORD BONDING.
11:32:01AM WHAT WE'RE BONDING HERE IS HOUSING, AND IT COULD BE
11:32:07AM PERMANENT.
11:32:07AM BECAUSE 50 YEARS IS ALSO MULTIGENERATIONAL.
11:32:11AM SOMETHING I WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK FOR.
11:32:13AM I KNOW BONDING IS INTEREST, BONDING IS FINANCING, BUT HAPPY
11:32:16AM TO BOND IT TO FIND THAT MONEY.
11:32:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK IT IS SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT, THIS IS A
11:32:21AM DISCUSSION WE SHOULD BE HAVING WITH BONDING.
11:32:23AM BUT I'M ALSO NOT OPPOSED TO FUNDING IT AT 5 MILLION AND
11:32:28AM FINDING BONDING IF WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR THE FUTURE
11:32:34AM PROJECT.
11:32:34AM I BELIEVE SO STRONGLY IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BECAUSE OF
11:32:37AM THE AREA.
11:32:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:32:42AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:32:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
11:32:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOUR MICROPHONE IS OFF.
11:32:46AM THERE YOU GO.
11:32:47AM THE MOTION WAS FOR THE 2 MILLION, CORRECT?
11:32:51AM I SUPPORT THE FULL 5 OR BUILDING A BRIDGE.
11:32:57AM I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN 2 AND 5.
11:33:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PER ROBERT'S RULES, WHAT WE DID, WE HAVE A
11:33:05AM MOTION TO AMEND THE INITIAL MOTION.
11:33:07AM WE NEED TO VOTE ON LOWERING IT TO 2 MILLION AND WHETHER THAT
11:33:11AM VOTE FAILS OR PASSES, THEN YOU'D MOVE TO -- THE 2 MILLION
11:33:16AM COULD FAIL AND THEN IT WOULD REVERT BACK TO THE 5.
11:33:19AM YOU NEED TO VOTE ON THE 2 MILLION.
11:33:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S HAVE A VOTE ON THE 2 MILLION.
11:33:23AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:33:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:33:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL DO THE 2 MILLION IF THE 5 MILLION
11:33:33AM DOESN'T PASS.
11:33:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'RE ONLY VOTING TO AMEND RIGHT NOW.
11:33:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS A MOTION TO AMEND.
11:33:42AM THIS FAILS, THEN WE GO TO THE FIVE.
11:33:44AM GIVE THAT A SHOT.
11:33:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL VOTE NO.
11:33:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:33:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:33:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:33:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:33:56AM NOW WE GO BACK TO THE FIVE.
11:34:02AM YOU'RE CHAIRWOMAN, SINCE I SECONDED BOARD MEMBER CARLSON'S
11:34:06AM MOTION.
11:34:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ANYONE, 30 SECONDS, ANYONE?
11:34:11AM OKAY.
11:34:13AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:34:15AM AND THIS IS FOR FIVE MILLION.
11:34:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:34:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
11:34:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:34:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:34:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:34:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:34:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I TRY?
11:34:30AM THIS WILL BE MY COMPROMISE MOTION IS TO FUND IT WITH 2
11:34:40AM MILLION WITH THE ADDITION OF GOING BACK WITH OUR CITY
11:34:44AM COUNCIL HATS ON AND FINDING THE EXTRA THREE NECESSARY TO
11:34:48AM MAKE THIS PROJECT.
11:34:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAME POINT OF ORDER.
11:34:51AM I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THAT AS CRA BOARD.
11:34:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SAID SENDING A RECOMMENDATION -- A
11:34:56AM RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL DISCUSS FINDING THE
11:35:00AM ADDITIONAL $3 MILLION.
11:35:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:35:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL SECOND THAT.
11:35:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: QUESTION ON THAT, WHICH IS, I HAVE A QUESTION,
11:35:08AM MAYBE I'M GOING TO LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT HERE, WHY CAN'T WE GO
11:35:11AM HIGHER THAN 2?
11:35:13AM IS IT EITHER 2 OR 5?
11:35:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ANSWER THE REASON I DID IT?
11:35:19AM THE REASON I DID IT IS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE CAC
11:35:23AM RECOMMENDED, AND THE COMMUNITY HAS COME OUT SAYING, A, THEY
11:35:25AM SUPPORT THE PROJECT, BUT, B, THEY REALLY WANT US TO ONLY
11:35:35AM SPEND 2 MILLION BECAUSE THEY HAVE OTHER HOUSING PRIORITIES,
11:35:36AM AND I RESPECT THAT.
11:35:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CAC RECOMMENDED IT BASED ON INCOMPLETE
11:35:39AM INFORMATION AND NOT A FULL ANALYSIS.
11:35:40AM THEY WERE NEVER PRESENTED THE GAP ANALYSIS.
11:35:43AM THEY WERE ONLY PRESENTED THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION BASED ON
11:35:43AM CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
11:35:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO 2 MILLION AND
11:35:48AM FIND 3 MILLION TO TALK ABOUT IT?
11:35:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK THERE IS 3 MILLION.
11:35:51AM I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF BONDING.
11:35:53AM THE MAYOR HAS BONDED THE CITY OUT TO THE MAX.
11:35:56AM THERE'S NO WAY TO BOND ADDITIONAL --
11:35:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:36:03AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:36:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE
11:36:09AM $2 MILLION IS EXTREMELY GENEROUS.
11:36:12AM I BELIEVE MS. PARKS AND MR. McCRAY ADVISED US THAT THE
11:36:16AM MAXIMUM SUBSIDY PER UNIT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS BEEN
11:36:18AM $80,000.
11:36:19AM AND THAT WOULD BE 1.6.
11:36:21AM SO WE'RE ALREADY GOING -- WE'RE ALREADY IN BRAND-NEW
11:36:26AM TERRITORY BY GOING TO $2 MILLION.
11:36:28AM THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S BEEN SUBSIDIZED TO
11:36:31AM THIS LEVEL.
11:36:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: PREVIOUSLY THEY RECOMMENDED A CHART WITH
11:36:35AM HIGHER NUMBERS BASED ON BENCHMARKING.
11:36:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO ON THIS.
11:36:41AM I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AFTER THIS POTENTIALLY FAILS TO
11:36:45AM TRY TO FIND A COMPROMISE OF GOING FORWARD.
11:36:47AM LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS.
11:36:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE PASS 2 MILLION AND YOU MAKE A MOTION
11:36:53AM FOR 4, WE CAN STILL VOTE ON THAT TO SUPERSEDE IT.
11:36:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S JUST VOTE -- LET'S VOTE ON THIS.
11:37:03AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:37:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:37:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:37:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON NOW?
11:37:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: GUYS, IF I MAY, $2 MILLION WITH A
11:37:19AM RECOMMENDATION OF 3 MILLION FROM CITY COUNCIL.
11:37:26AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:37:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: WAIT, WAIT.
11:37:28AM PLEASE, PLEASE.
11:37:29AM YOU GUYS WANTED ME TO BE CHAIR.
11:37:31AM PLEASE FOLLOW RULES.
11:37:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY MOTION IS $2 MILLION FROM THE EAST TAMPA
11:37:42AM CAC WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS BONDING
11:37:49AM FOR THE 3 EXTRA MILLION.
11:37:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MISSED THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE AMOUNT.
11:37:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S RESTART.
11:37:56AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:37:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
11:38:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:38:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:38:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE IT SAYS BONDING, I HAVE TO SAY NO.
11:38:09AM I'M IN FAVOR OF THE 2 MILLION, BUT I CAN'T VOTE FOR IT IF IT
11:38:12AM SAYS BONDING, SO NO.
11:38:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:38:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:38:19AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH MANISCALCO AND HURTAK VOTING
11:38:22AM YES.
11:38:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE BOARD CHAIR THAT WANTS TO MAKE A
11:38:25AM MOTION.
11:38:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT PASSED.
11:38:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT FAILED 4-2.
11:38:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY MOTION IS GOING TO BE $3.5 MILLION AND
11:38:40AM EVERYONE IN THE CROWD, PLEASE CEASE SPEAKING.
11:38:43AM THANK YOU.
11:38:43AM $3.5 MILLION.
11:38:45AM THE SAME CONTEXT AS BOARD MEMBER HURTAK SAID WITH A
11:38:49AM RECOMMENDATION OR REQUEST FOR CITY COUNCIL TO FIND THE
11:38:52AM REMAINING DOLLARS.
11:38:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL SECOND IT.
11:38:55AM I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
11:38:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:38:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: $3.5 MILLION, WE WOULD HAVE TO FUND 1.5
11:39:02AM MILLION BY RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
11:39:06AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED WHEN YOU BOND AND HOW MUCH YOU
11:39:11AM LOSE -- INTEREST, AND WE DON'T KNOW THE INTEREST RATES.
11:39:14AM BUT WE WOULD BE FINANCING A LOT LESS.
11:39:16AM AND WE WOULD BE SAVING QUITE A BIT IN INTEREST.
11:39:20AM IT WOULD BE NOT A ONE-YEAR LOAN.
11:39:22AM IT WOULD BE MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.
11:39:24AM I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE 3.5 MILLION BECAUSE WHAT WE'LL
11:39:28AM SAVE AND PAY IN INTEREST AND ALL THAT DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S
11:39:30AM GOING TO COME OUT OF THE TAXPAYERS.
11:39:33AM I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE 3.5 MILLION.
11:39:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SAW BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA'S LIGHT NEXT.
11:39:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CIRCLE MY $2 MILLION, COUNCIL MEMBER
11:39:47AM CLENDENIN SAID ABOUT THE AVERAGE 1.8 MILLION AND NOW THIS IS
11:39:52AM 2 MILLION, ABOVE THE NEW LEVEL.
11:39:54AM I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON FINANCING.
11:39:57AM I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO MAKE THESE STATEMENTS, BUT WHEN YOU
11:40:01AM LOOK AT THE -- PAST, EQUAL TO THE SUMS OF WHAT HE'S TALKING
11:40:07AM ABOUT.
11:40:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DID NOT SEE WHOSE LIGHT WAS FIRST.
11:40:14AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:40:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH HOW THIS IS GOING
11:40:19AM DOWN.
11:40:19AM IT'S LIKE HORSE TRADING WITHOUT SUBSTANTIVE FACTS AND
11:40:23AM FIGURES.
11:40:26AM I THINK COUNCILMAN -- MORE LIKE AN AUCTION.
11:40:30AM I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
11:40:31AM I HATE TO KEEP PLAYING THE MOTION GAMES.
11:40:36AM I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
11:40:37AM I THINK THIS SHOULD BE CLEAN.
11:40:39AM MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO $2 MILLION WITH THIS
11:40:44AM BOARD RECOMMENDING TO CITY COUNCIL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION,
11:40:46AM JUST PERIOD.
11:40:47AM WE HAD IT WITH A GOAL IN MIND.
11:40:51AM I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PASS AN UP-AND-DOWN RESOLUTION FOR $2
11:40:56AM MILLION COMMITTED FROM THE CRA BASED ON CAC AND STAFF'S
11:41:01AM RECOMMENDATIONS.
11:41:02AM THAT'S FACTUAL FIGURES THAT WE CAN JUSTIFY A DECISION ON.
11:41:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A SECOND?
11:41:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS SOMETHING FACTUAL.
11:41:14AM WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE
11:41:17AM FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS ISSUE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE PAST
11:41:20AM THIS.
11:41:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A SECOND?
11:41:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:41:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE CURRENT MOTION ON THE FLOOR --
11:41:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:41:32AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:41:34AM ROLL CALL.
11:41:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:41:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:41:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:41:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:41:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:41:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:41:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOW 3.5 WITH FINDING ANOTHER --
11:42:05AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: DURING THIS DISCUSSION I'VE BEEN TRYING TO
11:42:07AM GET WITH THE HOUSING FOLKS AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE.
11:42:09AM THERE MAY BE SOME HOUSING FUNDS THERE.
11:42:12AM I KNOW THAT MAY OR MAY NOT PLAY INTO THE CRA BOARD'S
11:42:16AM DECISION, AND I DID JUST TALK TO MR. SINGER.
11:42:18AM I KNOW YOU ARE AT A PIVOTAL POINT IN THIS DISCUSSION, BUT IF
11:42:23AM WE COULD GET A 30-DAY CONTINUANCE.
11:42:27AM I'M MEETING WITH HOUSING THIS AFTERNOON.
11:42:28AM I CAN'T TELL YOU ON THE FLY AND I WOULD NOT SAY COMFORTABLE
11:42:31AM SAYING I HAVE ONE MILLION OF THIS, I JUST CAN'T.
11:42:35AM YOU ASKED ABOUT THE FUNDS.
11:42:36AM THERE ARE SOME FUNDS THERE.
11:42:38AM IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS TO SEE WHERE
11:42:42AM WE COULD LAND ON THIS TO TRY TO COME BACK IN A DIFFERENT
11:42:46AM FORMAT.
11:42:47AM IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WOULD ENTERTAIN.
11:42:49AM IF NOT, I APPRECIATE YOUR ACKNOWLEDGING ME.
11:42:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WITHDRAW MY SECOND.
11:42:56AM RESPECTFULLY.
11:42:58AM IF THERE'S FURTHER INFORMATION --
11:43:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THE NON-SECONDING.
11:43:05AM WE NOW STILL HAVE A SECOND.
11:43:07AM I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT INFORMATION.
11:43:11AM IF BOARD CHAIR VIERA COULD PLEASE RESTATE HIS MOTION.
11:43:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
11:43:19AM IN LIGHT OF WHAT MS. FEELEY SAID, MY MOTION WILL BE AS
11:43:22AM FOLLOWS, WHICH IS THAT WE VOTE TO DO $3.5 MILLION CONTINGENT
11:43:28AM ON THE CITY BEING ABLE TO FINANCE THE OTHER $1.5 MILLION.
11:43:34AM THAT IS A CONTINGENT MOTION, EXPRESSING OUR INTENT TO GIVE
11:43:38AM THE APPLICANT SOME PEACE OF MIND.
11:43:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND IF YOU TAKE THE WORD
11:43:43AM CONTINGENT OUT.
11:43:44AM IN CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY'VE BEEN IN THIS
11:43:46AM PROCESS MORE THAN A YEAR.
11:43:48AM 30 DAYS OR 60 DAYS COULD KILL THE PROJECT.
11:43:50AM LET'S APPROVE THE 3.5 AND LET THE CITY LOOK FOR THE OTHER
11:43:53AM MILLION.
11:43:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
11:43:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'RE RIGHT.
11:43:56AM WE CAN FIND IT.
11:43:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: EASIER FOR THEM TO FIND 1.5 MILLION THAN IT
11:44:01AM IS 3.
11:44:02AM I'M AFRAID IF WE PASS 2, IT'S GOING TO KILL THE PROJECT.
11:44:05AM THE CLOSER WE GET TO 5 MILLION THE BETTER.
11:44:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY MOTION.
11:44:09AM FLAT 3.5.
11:44:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU CAN LET GUIDO TAKE IT.
11:44:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD CHAIR VIERA MADE A MOTION FOR 3.5
11:44:21AM MILLION WITH 1.5 MILLION TO TALK TO CITY STAFF AND SEE WHAT
11:44:26AM WE CAN DO ABOUT 1.5 MILLION.
11:44:29AM IT WAS SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:44:30AM DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY?
11:44:32AM I'M GOING TO 30 SECONDS.
11:44:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT ABBYE FEELEY TO COME BACK PLEASE.
11:44:38AM THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHATEVER LOOK FOR THE
11:44:40AM MONEY, THE MONIES COMING FROM THE FEDS, ARE THEY ALREADY
11:44:43AM APPROPRIATED?
11:44:45AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEY ARE NOT.
11:44:46AM THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO --
11:44:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT WERE THE NUMBERS LAST YEAR COMPARED
11:44:50AM TO THIS YEAR FOR WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE FEDS --
11:44:54AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: COUNCILMAN, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS OFF
11:44:57AM THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
11:45:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THOSE FUNDS ARE USUALLY ALREADY
11:45:02AM PROGRAMMED TO GIVE TO THE PEOPLE MOST NEEDY IN THE
11:45:06AM COMMUNITY.
11:45:06AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: LET ME PROVIDE THIS PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S
11:45:08AM NOTHING THAT WOULD STOP THIS APPLICANT RIGHT NOW FROM GOING
11:45:09AM TO HOUSING AND ASKING FOR THOSE FUNDS OUTSIDE OF THIS VOTE
11:45:13AM AS WELL.
11:45:13AM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR VOTE, NOT CONTINGENT, THERE'S
11:45:19AM NOTHING TO STOP THEM FROM STILL COMING TO HOUSING AND TRYING
11:45:22AM TO FILL THAT REMAINING GAP.
11:45:24AM THAT'S ONE APPROACH.
11:45:25AM THE OTHER IS I THINK I'M AWARE THERE ARE SOME HOME FUNDS
11:45:31AM WHICH IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM.
11:45:32AM THOSE ARE FOR CONSTRUCTION.
11:45:33AM THERE ARE HOME FUNDS CURRENTLY UNENCUMBERED AND HPF FUNDS
11:45:40AM CURRENTLY UNENCUMBERED.
11:45:42AM I CAN'T SAY IF THOSE WERE ON THE HORIZON FOR ANOTHER PROJECT
11:45:45AM COMING OUT OF THE PIPE.
11:45:45AM BASED ON DISCUSSION, I'M WILLING TO GO TO STAFF AND LOOK AND
11:45:48AM PROVIDE THE INFORMATION BACK TO YOU.
11:45:49AM I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL ALSO TO SHOW YOU THE EAST TAMPA
11:45:53AM CRA, THE HOUSING LINE ITEMS, AND THE FUTURE COUPLE OF YEARS
11:45:57AM SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THESE PROJECTS ARE IN THE MULTIYEAR
11:46:01AM FUNDING CYCLE.
11:46:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:46:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD URGE THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE THE WIN.
11:46:10AM I THINK WHAT WAS PRESENTED IS A WIN.
11:46:12AM IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 2 MILLION, THE COMMITMENT FROM
11:46:14AM CITY STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO FIND THE $3 MILLION
11:46:18AM THROUGH THE OTHER FUNDS IS A WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY, A WIN
11:46:21AM FOR THE CAC, A WIN FOR EAST TAMPA.
11:46:22AM IT IS A WIN FOR THIS BOARD.
11:46:26AM HONESTLY, THEY SERVED IT ON A SILVER PLATTER.
11:46:29AM I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T TAKE IT IMMEDIATELY.
11:46:32AM I URGE US TO GO WITH THE $2 MILLION WITH THE COMMITMENT TO
11:46:34AM COME BACK IN 30 DAYS TO REVISIT IT ON COUNCIL.
11:46:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: I STAND BY MY MOTION.
11:46:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL THE POINTS I BROUGHT UP IN THIS MEMO AND
11:46:52AM BROUGHT UP AT THE BEGINNING, WE HAVE AN ARBITRARY PROCESS.
11:46:57AM WE DON'T HAVE A STANDARD PROCESS.
11:46:58AM WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING A $9.7 MILLION PROJECT IN A
11:47:02AM LITTLE WHILE.
11:47:02AM SO I HOPE WE PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF SCRUTINY.
11:47:05AM THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN IS NOT A
11:47:11AM CONSISTENT, ACCURATE ANALYSIS OF THIS.
11:47:13AM THE CONSTRUCTION METHOD IS NOT THE STANDARD AND THE
11:47:16AM BENCHMARKING WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT INFORMATION ON WHAT THE
11:47:20AM STANDARD IS.
11:47:20AM WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS TELLING US, IF WE DON'T GO WITH THE
11:47:26AM HIGHER NUMBER, THE PROJECT IS ESSENTIALLY DEAD OR WON'T
11:47:28AM INCLUDE THE LOWER AMI.
11:47:30AM COMMUNITY WANTS THE LOWER AMI.
11:47:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:47:36AM I AGREE.
11:47:38AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, I'M REALLY GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THIS
11:47:44AM MEMO.
11:47:44AM I COMPLETELY AGREE, WE HAVE GOT TO DO THIS.
11:47:48AM UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND.
11:47:54AM THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENED TODAY.
11:47:56AM WE HAVE A CURRENT MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
11:47:58AM CAN YOU PLEASE RESTATE IT?
11:48:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I RECALL, IT'S $3.5 MILLION TO COME FROM
11:48:03AM THE CRA WITH OUR INTENT TO INQUIRE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:48:07AM WEARING OUR CITY COUNCIL HAT AND WORKING WITH STAFF TO THE
11:48:10AM REMAINING $1.5 MILLION AS A COMPROMISE.
11:48:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:48:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE A 3.5 MILLION AND A SECOND.
11:48:19AM MY ONLY QUESTION, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE -- I DON'T SEE ANY
11:48:22AM OTHER LIGHT -- DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
11:48:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:48:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MR. McCRAY.
11:48:29AM IS THIS A ONE-TIME PAYMENT OR WILL THIS BE OVER YEARS?
11:48:32AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: NO, IT WILL BE SPLIT UP OVER 3 YEARS.
11:48:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:48:37AM 3.5 MILLION OVER 3 YEARS IS A LITTLE OVER A MILLION ONE AND
11:48:45AM CHANGE EACH YEAR FOR THREE YEARS.
11:48:47AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
11:48:49AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:48:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:48:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:48:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
11:48:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:49:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:49:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:49:03AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH MIRANDA AND CLENDENIN VOTING
11:49:05AM NO.
11:49:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
11:49:09AM THANK YOU, MADAM.
11:49:10AM THANK YOU CRA.
11:49:12AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:49:13AM THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR THIS LONG AND WINDING ROAD.
11:49:15AM WE ARE AT 11:49.
11:49:18AM AND WE HAVE -- LET'S INQUIRE ON THIS.
11:49:25AM MR. McCRAY, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOUR DIRECTOR'S REPORT
11:49:27AM IS GOING TO BE, NOTWITHSTANDING COUNCIL DISCUSSION?
11:49:31AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE DO HAVE THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, IF I
11:49:32AM COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
11:49:34AM YOU ALL HAVE THE PROJECT TRACKER AND GRANTS TRACKER.
11:49:39AM CUSTOMARILY IN YOUR AGENDA.
11:49:40AM WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION BY ONE OF OUR SUMMER YOUTH INTERNS
11:49:45AM RELATED TO THE PROCESS AND PROGRAMMING HE'S BEEN WORKING ON
11:49:50AM TO BUILD SOME OF THE HOUSING ITEMS INTO THE GIS SYSTEM FOR
11:49:55AM THE CITY THAT IS FORWARD FACING.
11:49:57AM IF WE COULD ALLOW HIM TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT PRESENTATION,
11:50:02AM AND IF IT IS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE, WE CAN TAKE A RECESS FOR
11:50:05AM LUNCH AND COME BACK WITH THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.
11:50:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY REALLY QUICK, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET
11:50:11AM IN MR. ROBINSON AND THEN THAT.
11:50:13AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: MR. ROBINSON ACTUALLY HAD TO LEAVE FOR
11:50:15AM ANOTHER MEETING, HE AND I HAD A DISCUSSION.
11:50:19AM WE WILL BRING HIM BACK FOR THE AUGUST MEETING.
11:50:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I APPROVE ITEM 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14,
11:50:29AM 15, 16?
11:50:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION.
11:50:33AM MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:50:34AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:50:35AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:50:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: CLARIFYING QUESTION, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE
11:50:41AM THE WALK-ON, RIGHT?
11:50:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE WALK-ON.
11:50:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:50:48AM THIS IS FOR 7, 9 THROUGH 16 EXCLUDING -- YEAH, YEAH.
11:50:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:50:58AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:50:59AM OKAY.
11:51:01AM FOR THE WALK-ON, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT NOW OR IS THERE
11:51:04AM A BIG PRESENTATION?
11:51:06AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, I BELIEVE THEY ARE HERE.
11:51:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO IT REALLY FAST.
11:51:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY FIRM WORKS WITH AN ENTITY RELATED TO THE
11:51:20AM MUSEUM.
11:51:21AM THEREFORE I'LL RECUSE MYSELF.
11:51:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: OUR FRIENDS FROM THE MUSEUM OF ART, IF YOU
11:51:26AM WANT TO COME FORWARD.
11:51:29AM I'LL ASK HOW LONG YOU NEED.
11:51:31AM SIR, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
11:51:36AM ROUGHLY HOW LONG DO YOU NEED?
11:51:41AM >> WE JUST ASKED FOR AN EARLY START DATE FOR THE
11:51:45AM CONSTRUCTION PROCESS ON THE DOG PARK.
11:51:47AM IT FALLS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE AGREED UPON TIME
11:51:51AM FRAME.
11:51:52AM WE WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED SOONER THAN LATER.
11:51:57AM THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT THAT HAS
11:52:00AM BEEN APPROVED.
11:52:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:52:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU'RE GOING TO START THE DOG PARK EARLY.
11:52:06AM >> YES.
11:52:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:52:08AM I MOVE THAT RESOLUTION.
11:52:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:52:12AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:52:14AM I HAD VOTED FOR THE FIRST ROUND AGAINST THE SECOND ROUND
11:52:17AM RESPECTFULLY.
11:52:18AM YOU DO WONDERFUL WORK.
11:52:19AM I'LL BE VOTING FOR THIS AS A COURTESY.
11:52:22AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:52:23AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:52:24AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:52:28AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR BREVITY.
11:52:34AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE DO HAVE TWO INTERNS.
11:52:37AM INTRODUCE BOTH OF THEM.
11:52:39AM GENTLEMAN DOING THE PRESENTATION AND WITH THE SUMMER YOUTH
11:52:43AM PROGRAM.
11:52:44AM I THOUGHT TWO SUMMERS, BUT THREE.
11:52:45AM RECENT GRADUATE OF BROOKS DeBARTOLO COLLEGIATE HIGH SCHOOL
11:52:49AM AND WILL BE MATRICULATING TO KENT STATE UNIVERSITY THIS
11:52:52AM FALL.
11:52:53AM SO THIS IS WHAT HE'S BEEN WORKING ON IS SOMEWHAT OF HIS
11:52:57AM CAPSTONE FOR THE SUMMER.
11:52:58AM AND THEN INTRODUCE MS. LAUREN GREEN.
11:53:01AM SHE IS A GRADUATE STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
11:53:05AM I'LL BRING THEM UP SO THEY CAN INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND MR.
11:53:08AM HALL WILL ROLL INTO HIS PRESENTATION.
11:53:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:53:16AM LAUREN GREEN.
11:53:17AM I'M INTERNING WITH THE CRA TEAM THIS SUMMER.
11:53:20AM I'M FROM TAMPA.
11:53:21AM I LIVED HERE FOR 17 YEARS.
11:53:24AM I'M CURRENTLY ABOUT TO BE A SECOND-YEAR GRADUATE STUDENT AT
11:53:27AM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA WHERE -- YEAH, GO GATORS -- WHERE
11:53:31AM I AM PURSUING A MASTERS IN PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION AND
11:53:35AM SPECIALIZATION IN PUBLIC RELATIONS.
11:53:37AM I HAVE A BACHELORS IN JOURNALISM FROM HIGH POINT UNIVERSITY
11:53:40AM WHERE I GRADUATED TWO YEARS AGO.
11:53:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHERE ARE YOU FROM ORIGINALLY?
11:53:45AM >> MIAMI.
11:53:46AM 305.
11:53:47AM THERE YOU GO.
11:53:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:53:52AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD.
11:53:53AM MY NAME IS DEQUAL HALL.
11:53:55AM I AM A RECENT GRADUATE OF BROOKS DeBARTOLO COLLEGIATE HIGH
11:54:00AM SCHOOL AND ATTENDING KENT STATE FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT
11:54:02AM IN OHIO THIS FALL.
11:54:03AM THIS IS MY THIRD AND FINAL YEAR WITH THE SUMMER YOUTH
11:54:07AM PROGRAM UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF MS. CASTILLO AND MR. HUNTLEY.
11:54:12AM THIS SUMMER WAS DIFFERENT FROM PAST EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I WAS
11:54:15AM ASSIGNED A PERSONAL WORK PROJECT.
11:54:17AM THE TAMPA CRA HOUSING INITIATIVE EDITOR APPLICATION OR GIS
11:54:21AM MAPPING.
11:54:21AM THE CRA EDITOR IS A DIGITAL REPRESENTATION OF THE WORK DONE
11:54:26AM BY THE TAMPA CRA TO HELP COMMUNITY CLIENTS WITH EITHER DOWN
11:54:30AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, EMERGENCY ROOFING, HOUSING REHAB OR TREE
11:54:36AM TRIMMING.
11:54:36AM THIS IS HOW THE INITIAL APPLICATION WORKS.
11:54:40AM WE REVIEWED THE CLIENT'S NAMES AND ADDRESSES ON EITHER EXCEL
11:54:49AM SPREADSHEET OR THE PROJECT FILE FOLDERS.
11:54:52AM WE SEARCH UP THE ADDRESS ON THE GIS MAPPING.
11:54:56AM FOR THE SAKE OF THIS, I'LL CLICK ON A POINT.
11:55:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: TAKE YOUR TIME.
11:55:04AM BY THE WAY, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED?
11:55:07AM >> I THINK THIS IS A FOUR MINUTE.
11:55:10AM YOU CAN THEN -- HAS DIFFERENT SETTINGS, EDIT, BASE MAP
11:55:16AM LAYERS AND BOOK MARKS.
11:55:17AM LAYERS IS BASICALLY LIKE A FILTER SETTING.
11:55:21AM FILTER TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREAS AT THIS POINT,
11:55:29AM YOU COULD EITHER CREATE OR EDIT A DATA POINT.
11:55:33AM TO CREATE, YOU JUST WANT TO CLICK ON THIS EDIT BUTTON, PULL
11:55:40AM THIS DOWN AND CREATE A DATA POINT, DRAG IT TO THE DESIRED
11:55:45AM LOCATION TO EDIT A DATA POINT, YOU WANT TO CLICK ON THE EDIT
11:55:48AM FEATURE AND JUST TYPE IN THE RELEVANT INFORMATION.
11:55:51AM ONCE YOU PULL THIS BAR DOWN, SEVERAL FILLERS POP UP
11:55:57AM INCLUDING FISCAL YEAR, THE CRA INITIATIVE, NEIGHBORHOODS,
11:56:03AM COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND THE PROJECT DETAILS.
11:56:05AM I WOULD THEN UTILIZE THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY
11:56:08AM APPRAISER WEBSITE TO LOOK FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE TOTAL
11:56:14AM PARCEL DIMENSION FOR THE CLIENT'S PROJECT ADDRESS.
11:56:19AM WITH ALL OF THIS, I LEARNED HOW TO OPERATE THE HILLSBOROUGH
11:56:25AM COUNTY HOME APPRAISER WEBSITE AND HOW IT CAN EFFECTIVELY
11:56:30AM FIND A PARCEL.
11:56:31AM I ALSO LEARNED DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THE TAMPA CRA HAS AND
11:56:35AM HOW THESE PROGRAMS WORK TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY.
11:56:38AM LASTLY, I BECAME FAMILIAR WITH THE DIFFERENT HOUSING
11:56:41AM COUNSELING AGENCIES, TAMPA CRA COLLABORATES WITH FOR DOWN
11:56:44AM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
11:56:45AM WITH ALL THAT EXPERIENCE THIS SUMMER, IT HAS BEEN A
11:56:50AM MEMORABLE SUMMER.
11:56:52AM I HAVE HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH A NEW TEAM AND A NEW
11:56:56AM ENVIRONMENT DOING WORK THAT INITIALLY SEEMED UNFAMILIAR TO
11:56:59AM ME.
11:56:59AM WITHOUT THE CONSISTENT GUIDANCE OF MS. VANESSA ROSS, MR.
11:57:04AM McCRAY, MS. B, AND MS. RAQUEL, I WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN
11:57:10AM THIS DONE.
11:57:11AM I WANT TO THANK THEM AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
11:57:15AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:57:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:57:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO SAY, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT
11:57:22AM PRESENTATION.
11:57:23AM I WAS TOLD ABOUT THIS MAP BY MR. McCRAY YESTERDAY, AND
11:57:27AM IT'S ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
11:57:29AM WHAT A WONDERFUL RESOURCE.
11:57:30AM SO I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
11:57:32AM IT ALWAYS FEELS GOOD TO FINISH A PROJECT.
11:57:35AM BEST LUCK WHILE YOU START YOUR COLLEGIATE CAREER.
11:57:40AM YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAJORING IN BUILDING SERVICES.
11:57:44AM >> CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.
11:57:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HOPE YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND HELP
11:57:48AM BUILD MORE HOUSING.
11:57:49AM >> THAT IS THE PLAN.
11:57:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
11:57:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:57:52AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:57:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: QUICKLY, AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH COLLEGE, IF
11:57:57AM THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP, ANY ADVICE OR CONTACTS
11:58:00AM AS YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET A JOB, WE WANT YOU TO COME BACK,
11:58:03AM OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPER SMART AND MOTIVATED.
11:58:06AM ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE YOUR CAREER GO SMOOTHLY IN THE
11:58:08AM FUTURE, LET US KNOW, PLEASE.
11:58:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:58:10AM WHERE ARE YOU FROM ORIGINAL?
11:58:13AM >> TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:58:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHERE IN TAMPA?
11:58:16AM >> NORTH TAMPA.
11:58:16AM CROSS BUSCH AREA.
11:58:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M A TEMPLE TERRACE KID.
11:58:22AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
11:58:25AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: BEFORE MR. HALL STEPS AWAY, CAN YOU ZOOM
11:58:28AM OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT?
11:58:29AM WE MADE IT A PRIORITY AS THE AGENCY, THIS IS THE FIRST
11:58:36AM LAYER.
11:58:36AM AS HE'S WORKING WITH MS. ROSS TO BUILD OUT THE -- ALL OF THE
11:58:43AM DIFFERENT RECIPIENTS AND LOCATIONS IN THE CRA, BUT I JUST
11:58:47AM WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE DOTS THAT ARE PRIMARILY IN EAST TAMPA.
11:58:53AM AS HE SHARED THOSE LAYER OF TREE TRIMMING, DOWN PAYMENT
11:59:00AM ASSISTANCE, ANY OTHER GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HAD, WE
11:59:02AM STARTED WITH THE HOUSING COMPONENT FIRST WITH MS. PARKS, BUT
11:59:06AM WE ALSO WILL BE COMBINING THAT AND CREATING ANOTHER LAYER
11:59:10AM FOR OUR COMMERCIAL GRANTS AS WELL AS THE SPECIAL PROJECTS.
11:59:13AM THAT WILL BE ACROSS ALL THE CRAs.
11:59:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:59:17AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:59:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL THE WORK DONE FOR THE CRA AND THE WAY
11:59:21AM PINPOINTING, FAST TRACK TO A LOT OF THINGS.
11:59:24AM KENT STATE.
11:59:27AM OHIO.
11:59:27AM VERY NICE SCHOOL.
11:59:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:59:31AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:59:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:59:33AM YES, ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
11:59:34AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:59:34AM BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH, I WANTED TO BRING IN MY INTERIM
11:59:40AM LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT.
11:59:43AM TODAY WILL BE DARSH'S LAST DAY LIVE WITH US IN TAMPA CITY
11:59:47AM COUNCIL.
11:59:47AM I JUST WANTED TO BRING THEM UP HERE AND ALLOW, NUMBER ONE,
11:59:54AM EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION.
11:59:55AM YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB.
11:59:57AM YOU ARE A THOUGHTFUL YOUNG PERSON.
11:59:58AM YOU GO TO USF AND YOU HAVE SUCH A BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD OF
12:00:02PM YOU.
12:00:02PM SO BRIGHT, INTELLIGENT, THOUGHTFUL, KIND, EMPATHETIC,
12:00:07PM COMPASSIONATE.
12:00:09PM YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
12:00:10PM THANK YOU, DARSH.
12:00:11PM >> THANK YOU.
12:00:12PM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
12:00:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:00:13PM THIS IS KIND OF WEIRD, BUT I AM WEIRD.
12:00:16PM I ASKED YOU WHO YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT WAS.
12:00:22PM YOU TOLD ME LYNDON JOHNSON.
12:00:23PM I LIKE LYNDON JOHNSON.
12:00:25PM GIVE YOU THIS, WHICH IS A REALLY COOL -- THIS IS PRESIDENT
12:00:29PM LYNDON JOHNSON SIGNING INTO LAW MEDICARE AND MEDICAID AT
12:00:33PM INDEPENDENCE, MISSOURI, WITH HARRY TRUMAN, BETH TRUMAN AND
12:00:38PM HUBERT HUMPHREY.
12:00:40PM IF YOU LIKE GOVERNMENT HUG YOU SO HARD THAT YOU CHOKE WITH
12:00:43PM COMPASSION, THAT IS A GREAT PICTURE.
12:00:45PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DARSH.
12:00:47PM YOU'RE WONDERFUL.
12:00:49PM >> THANK YOU.
12:00:49PM [ APPLAUSE ]
12:00:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVERY MORNING I COME BY AND CHAT A LITTLE
12:00:56PM BIT, LITTLE CUP OF COFFEE.
12:00:58PM SHE'S VERY CORDIAL AND VERY INTELLIGENT.
12:01:00PM EVERY TIME I SAW HER, SHE WAS WORKING.
12:01:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
12:01:06PM YOU'VE BEEN ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING INTERNS I'VE SEEN.
12:01:09PM SHE REALLY WORKED HARD.
12:01:12PM YOU'VE BEEN A PLEASURE TO HAVE.
12:01:14PM >> I APPRECIATE YOU.
12:01:15PM THANK YOU.
12:01:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
12:01:18PM AS I SAID TO THE OTHER PERSON, ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN THE
12:01:20PM FUTURE TO HELP YOU, HAPPY TO GIVE YOU ADVICE, CONTACT,
12:01:23PM WHATEVER WE CAN DO.
12:01:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S GREAT TO HAVE MET YOU.
12:01:30PM PASS IN THE HALLWAY AND CHAT SOMETIMES.
12:01:32PM YOU'RE ALWAYS VERY NICE.
12:01:33PM IT'S TRUE, YOU WERE ALWAYS WORKING.
12:01:35PM ALWAYS DOING SOMETHING.
12:01:36PM WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
12:01:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO ECHO THAT AS WELL.
12:01:40PM WE'VE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS.
12:01:41PM WE RODE THE BUS HOME TOGETHER --
12:01:44PM >> ON MY FIRST DAY.
12:01:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEP, YEP.
12:01:47PM WHICH WAS A LOT OF FUN.
12:01:48PM WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION.
12:01:49PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO REMIND YOU TO HAVE KELLY CONNECT
12:01:54PM YOU WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT.
12:01:57PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT WOULD -- CAN YOU SPEAK
12:02:00PM JUST BRIEFLY ON YOUR WORK IN COMMUNITY MARKET SPACE AND WHAT
12:02:08PM YOU'RE WORKING ON THERE?
12:02:09PM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HAVE THE TIME FOR ALL OF IT, BUT IT IS
12:02:13PM AMAZING, IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO SHARE JUST A BRIEF ABOUT
12:02:15PM WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO BRING FOOD TO PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE TO
12:02:21PM RECEIVE AND AFFORD IT.
12:02:22PM >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
12:02:23PM IT ALL STARTED WHEN I JOINED THE AGRARIAN CLUB ON CAMPUS AT
12:02:29PM USF.
12:02:29PM AND FROM THEN ON, WE STARTED THE FOOD SOVEREIGN FARMERS
12:02:34PM MARKET.
12:02:34PM WE JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE IDEA OF A FARMERS MARKET BUT HOLD
12:02:38PM IT WITH THE MISSION OF JUST LIKE TALKING DEEPLY ABOUT FOOD
12:02:43PM CITIZENSHIP AND TALKING LIKE MORE ABOUT HOW CAN WE PROVIDE
12:02:47PM FOOD THAT DOESN'T MODIFY IT AND ALSO BRINGS OUT THE STORY
12:02:51PM BEHIND IT AND ALSO LIKE MAKES PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE
12:02:55PM PROCESS FEEL APPRECIATED.
12:02:57PM IT'S JUST THERE'S THAT WE'RE DOING WHICH IS GOING INCREDIBLE
12:03:01PM AND JUST LIKE I HAD MY DREAM MARKET THIS PAST SEASON.
12:03:07PM IT WAS INCREDIBLE WITH MY TEAM AND EVERYBODY WHO IS JUST
12:03:09PM SUPPORTING ME IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
12:03:12PM AND WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO START A SEED LIBRARY ON CAMPUS AS
12:03:15PM WELL.
12:03:16PM JUST LIKE THE ENTHUSIASM THAT I'VE RECEIVED TO DO SOME OF
12:03:21PM THESE PROJECTS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE.
12:03:23PM I CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT THEM.
12:03:27PM THANK YOU.
12:03:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: AS YOU ALL SEE, DARSH IS A BLEEDING HEART.
12:03:32PM WHERE I COME FROM, THAT'S AWESOME.
12:03:34PM ANYONE ELSE?
12:03:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A CLEANUP.
12:03:40PM ITEM NUMBER 2, I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT TO AUGUST
12:03:42PM 21st PER THE DIRECTOR.
12:03:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:03:47PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:03:49PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:03:50PM ANY OPPOSED.
12:03:56PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:03:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:04:00PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:04:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:04:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:04:03PM IF I'M CORRECT, WE COME BACK ONLY FOR 8.
12:04:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
12:04:09PM WE HAVE THE BUDGET UNDER 3.
12:04:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: EXCUSE ME.
12:04:14PM YES.
12:04:14PM GOOD WITH 1:30?
12:04:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL BE A LITTLE LATE.
12:04:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT I'LL HAVE TO
12:04:22PM BE IN AND OUT FOR.
12:04:24PM I'LL DO MY BEST.
12:04:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
12:04:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WOULD LIKE A PHOTO, WE MIGHT AS WELL.
12:04:35PM [LUNCH RECESS]
1:38:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
1:38:46PM >> MIRANDA?
1:38:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:38:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:38:48PM >> HURTAK?
1:38:49PM CLENDENIN?
1:38:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
1:38:51PM >> CARLSON?
1:38:51PM VIERA?
1:38:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
1:38:52PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:38:54PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS AN APPOINTMENT AND COUNCILWOMAN LYNN
1:39:00PM HURTAK IS WATCHING THIS AND HAS I BELIEVE IT IS A CITY
1:39:04PM APPOINTMENT AS WELL.
1:39:05PM JUST FYI.
1:39:06PM WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE HERE FOR A QUORUM.
1:39:08PM MR. McCRAY, GO FORWARD, SIR.
1:39:14PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: PRIOR TO THE BREAK, WE MENTIONED BRINGING
1:39:17PM FORWARD THE FY '26 BUDGET.
1:39:19PM I WAS INFORMED THAT ONE OF THE PRESENTERS FOR ITEM 8 HAS A
1:39:23PM FLIGHT TO CATCH.
1:39:24PM SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THAT BE MOVED FORWARD FIRST AT THIS
1:39:28PM TIME FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE WILL THEN --
1:39:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
1:39:34PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
1:39:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:39:35PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:39:40PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP
1:39:42PM MR. KAREEM BRANTLEY WITH INTEGRAL TO PRESENT THE OTBI
1:39:48PM PROJECT AND ASHLEY EAST ON COLUMBUS DRIVE.
1:39:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR.
1:39:55PM ROUGHLY HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR YOUR
1:39:57PM PRESENTATION?
1:39:58PM >> YOU KNOW WHAT'S, CAN WE DO SEVEN TO TEN MINUTES?
1:40:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S GIVE YOU 10.
1:40:05PM HOW ABOUT 11.
1:40:06PM GIVE YOU A SAFETY NET.
1:40:09PM >> IT'S LIKE A MULTIPLE CHOICE.
1:40:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE FINE.
1:40:15PM >> MY NAME IS KAREEM BRANTLEY.
1:40:17PM I REPRESENT A FIRM CALLED THE INTEGRAL GROUP.
1:40:20PM I RUN THE DIVISION OUT OF FLORIDA WHICH INTEGRAL FLORIDA.
1:40:23PM OUR OFFICES IN TAMPA ARE 1726 EAST 7TH AVENUE.
1:40:27PM IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE A PART OF THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
1:40:31PM I'VE GROWN UP IN FLORIDA, RELATIVES IN TAMPA, COME THROUGH
1:40:34PM THIS PART WHEN WE WOULD GO TO THE ATTRACTIONS AND ALL OF
1:40:37PM THESE THINGS.
1:40:38PM VERY FAMILIAR WITH TAMPA.
1:40:40PM APPRECIATE DOING WHAT YOU DO AS COUNCILORS FOR THE CITY.
1:40:43PM AND MOST OF THE FOLKS WHO WERE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE
1:40:45PM PROJECT HAD TO GO ON AND CONDUCT THE REST OF THEIR DAY.
1:40:49PM BUT I'M THANKFUL TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA WHO
1:40:52PM HAVE BACKED THIS PROJECT.
1:40:53PM ALSO, ESPECIALLY THANKFUL TO OUR PARTNERS AT THE TAMPA BAY
1:40:56PM EDC.
1:40:57PM WE RESPONDED TO AN RFP ON THIS PROJECT.
1:40:59PM WE WERE ASKED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
1:41:02PM I THINK WE'VE DONE THOSE THINGS AND IN SOME CASES EXCEEDED
1:41:05PM THEM.
1:41:05PM MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHEN PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY HAVE TALKED
1:41:08PM TO US AND WHEN WE HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY,
1:41:11PM WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF
1:41:13PM THE COMMUNITY.
1:41:14PM I THINK WE ALSO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE
1:41:17PM FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
1:41:19PM NO PROJECT, INCLUDING OURS, IS GOING TO BE A SILVER BULLET
1:41:23PM FOR SOLVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
1:41:24PM BUT ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT WE
1:41:27PM PRESENT TODAY AND WE MAKE THIS REQUEST IS THAT IT IS MORE
1:41:30PM THAN JUST ABOUT A HOUSING PROJECT.
1:41:32PM IT'S MORE THAN JUST ABOUT A COMMERCIAL FACILITY THAT'S GOING
1:41:35PM TO BE THERE.
1:41:36PM IT'S BLOCK DEVELOPMENT.
1:41:38PM WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS A TWO-PART COMPONENT.
1:41:42PM AGAIN, IF THERE WAS ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD, WE WOULD DO
1:41:44PM THE WHOLE THING, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THAT WAS THE
1:41:46PM WISH OF THE COMMUNITY.
1:41:47PM THAT'S NOT OUR REALITY.
1:41:49PM THE REALITY WE HAVE IS WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD
1:41:53PM AND WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE GOT
1:41:55PM OUR SITE CONTROL.
1:41:56PM AND LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THAT.
1:41:59PM I DON'T KNOW HOW I BRING UP -- THERE IT IS.
1:42:02PM SO WITH THAT, LET ME JUST GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
1:42:06PM DO I CONTROL IT OR THEY CONTROL IT?
1:42:07PM SO WITH MY MINUTES REMAINING, LET ME GO QUICKLY.
1:42:27PM I WANT TO GET THROUGH WHO WE ARE.
1:42:29PM I'LL INTRODUCE OUR FIRM.
1:42:30PM THE EAST TAMPA LIVE LEARN DEVELOPMENT.
1:42:33PM ASHLEY EAST TAMPA, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, THE PROJECT
1:42:36PM BUDGET, AND THEN THE STRATEGY WE SET FORTH.
1:42:38PM THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY.
1:42:39PM WE'RE ABOUT 200 PLUS EMPLOYEES.
1:42:41PM WE'RE VERTICALLY INTEGRATED.
1:42:42PM WE DO EVERYTHING FROM DEVELOPMENT DOWN TO PROPERTY
1:42:45PM MANAGEMENT.
1:42:46PM WE WERE THE FIRST 32 YEARS IN BUSINESS.
1:42:49PM WE INVENTED IN A WAY MIXED INCOME HOUSING.
1:42:53PM IT WAS BECAUSE THE OLYMPICS WERE COMING TO ATLANTA IN 1996
1:42:56PM AND THEY HAD A PUBLIC HOUSING PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET.
1:42:58PM THEY NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO
1:43:01PM WAY YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE ATLANTA ON THE NATIONAL STAGE AND
1:43:04PM HAVE THIS PUBLIC HOUSING PROJECT.
1:43:05PM OUR CEO AND CHAIRMAN CAME UP WITH THE IDEA, WE SHOULD HAVE
1:43:08PM MIXED INCOME HOUSING.
1:43:10PM THAT HAD NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE IN A FINANCIAL STRUCTURE.
1:43:13PM SO WE CREATED THE LEGAL AND REGULATORY FRAMEWORK TO DO THAT.
1:43:16PM NOW ALL OF US BENEFIT FROM THAT TODAY.
1:43:18PM I AM PROUD TO CARRY ON THAT LEGACY FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA
1:43:20PM AS A PART -- THESE ARE SOME OF THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE
1:43:23PM PARTNERED WITH OVER THE YEARS.
1:43:25PM OUR EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND AS A
1:43:29PM COMMUNITY DEVELOPER IS WELL ENTRENCHED IN OUR HISTORY.
1:43:32PM WE UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYTHING BEGINS WITH US, WITH TALKING
1:43:35PM WITH THE COMMUNITY FIRST.
1:43:36PM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PARTNERS, YOU KNOW THEM BETTER THAN I
1:43:42PM DO, BUT MY PLEASURE TO WORK WITH CRAIG RICHARD AND TONY
1:43:45PM BROWN ON A DAILY BASIS WITH REGARDS TO FACILITATING ALL THE
1:43:48PM NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY.
1:43:51PM THERE WILL BE TWO PHASES IN THIS PROJECT.
1:43:55PM PHASE ONE WILL BE THE MULTIFAMILY.
1:43:57PM WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SECURE THE FINANCING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
1:44:01PM THIS.
1:44:01PM SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT PAST FEASIBILITY.
1:44:04PM FEASIBILITY WAS SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED WITH WHEN WE GOT
1:44:06PM THE AWARD.
1:44:07PM WE WENT AND SPENT OUR MONEY TO GO THROUGH THE DUE DILIGENCE
1:44:09PM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE GEOTECHNICAL STUDIES, ALL THE
1:44:12PM THINGS THAT WE NEED SO THAT WHEN WE CAME FORTH BEFORE CRA
1:44:16PM BOARD OR BEFORE COUNCILORS, WE WOULD HAVE A STORY TO TELL TO
1:44:20PM SAY WHAT WE HAVE DONE THUS FAR.
1:44:22PM PHASE TWO WILL BE THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WILL BE
1:44:26PM THE LEARN PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
1:44:28PM TODAY, WE FOCUS ON THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING COMPONENT AND THE
1:44:33PM INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED TO SERVE THE ENTIRE
1:44:36PM BLOCK BUILDING.
1:44:37PM HERE IS JUST A SITE PLAN OF THE AREA AND WHAT WE HAVE
1:44:40PM PLANNED TO DO.
1:44:43PM THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PLANNING
1:44:46PM DEPARTMENT WITH THE CITY.
1:44:46PM SO WE RESPONDED TO THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE
1:44:49PM PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS WE'VE SUBMITTED INQUIRIES AND
1:44:51PM QUESTIONS ABOUT CODE AND REGULATIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE
1:44:55PM SITE.
1:44:55PM WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A PLAN THAT IS
1:44:58PM ACCEPTABLE TO THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO GRADE THE PAPER TO
1:45:02PM DETERMINE IF THIS IS A SITE PLAN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH.
1:45:06PM HERE IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE WHOLE PLAN IS
1:45:11PM FROM THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE.
1:45:12PM SO THIS IS THE ARRIVAL POINT.
1:45:14PM THIS IS A SENSE OF ARRIVAL RIGHT OFF OF COLUMBUS.
1:45:18PM OPEN LINEAR PARK THAT WILL RUN ALONG COLUMBUS FOR THE USE OF
1:45:22PM THE RESIDENTS.
1:45:22PM IT WILL BE IN ADDITION TO ALL THE AMENITIES I'LL TALK ABOUT
1:45:26PM ON ANOTHER SLIDE.
1:45:27PM THIS IS JUST SOME EAST, WEST, AND SOUTH PROFILES TO GIVE YOU
1:45:31PM AN IDEA.
1:45:31PM WE PULLED THE BUILDING AWAY FROM THE HIGHWAY.
1:45:33PM RESIDENTS SAY, WE DON'T WANT THE BUILDING TOO CLOSE TO THE
1:45:36PM HIGHWAY BECAUSE OF THE NOISE.
1:45:38PM IN TRYING TO MAKE A SATISFACTORY EFFORT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN
1:45:41PM DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN FOR EVERY INTEREST THAT WAS EXPRESSED
1:45:45PM TO US, THAT IS THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE TODAY THAT I
1:45:47PM SHARED BEFORE.
1:45:48PM WE PUT THE PORTE-COCHERE THERE BECAUSE WE THOUGHT ABOUT
1:45:54PM RESIDENTS WHO MAY NEED ASSISTANCE WHEN THEY GET OUT OF A CAR
1:45:58PM AND IT'S RAINING, NOW YOU CAN PULL UNDER THE PORTE-COCHERE,
1:46:02PM YOU CAN GET OUT OF THE CAR, NOT BE RUSHED, NOT TRIP OVER
1:46:05PM YOUR CANE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET INTO THE BUILDING.
1:46:11PM SO REALLY BEEN THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE DO THIS.
1:46:14PM JUST A TIME LINE ON THIS.
1:46:14PM TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
1:46:16PM YOU ALL KNOW IF YOU DON'T MOVE PROJECTS FORWARD, THE ONLY
1:46:16PM THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THE COST IS GOING TO BUILD.
1:46:18PM WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE HAVE LOOKED AT OUR FINANCING
1:46:20PM APPROACH.
1:46:20PM WE'VE DONE BOTH A GAP METHOD AND A TAX CREDIT CALCULATION
1:46:24PM METHOD.
1:46:24PM WE LOOKED AT WHAT IS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED
1:46:27PM TO FACILITATE THIS DEVELOPMENT ON THE PATH OF FINANCING THAT
1:46:30PM WE HAVE CHOSEN WHICH IS 4% LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS.
1:46:35PM 2024 WE GOT THE AWARD.
1:46:36PM THE RFP WENT OUT IN 2023.
1:46:38PM WE GOT SITE CONTROL IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
1:46:40PM FINANCING WAS SECURED IN FEBRUARY OF '25 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T
1:46:44PM WASTE ANY TIME.
1:46:45PM WE MADE SURE WE COMMUNICATED WITH ENTERPRISE AND SOME OF THE
1:46:47PM OTHER FINANCING FOLKS, THOSE LETTERS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR
1:46:50PM PACKET.
1:46:51PM EAST TAMPA CRA APPROVAL, WE WENT AND MET WITH THE CAC.
1:46:56PM AGAIN, WE HEARD WHAT THEY SAID.
1:46:58PM THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD A FINANCIAL NEED.
1:47:00PM WE RESPONDED.
1:47:01PM WE SAID, HEY, WE USUALLY GET AWARDS IN ONE CHUNK.
1:47:04PM IF YOU NEED TO FINANCE IT OVER TIME, WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND
1:47:07PM CLEAR.
1:47:07PM LET US GO BACK TO OUR FINANCIERS AND SEE HOW WE CONSTRUCT
1:47:12PM THIS.
1:47:12PM WE THINK IF YOU WERE TO AWARD THIS PROJECT TODAY, WE HAVE A
1:47:14PM CALENDAR OR A SCHEDULE THAT TAKES US INTO MAY OF NEXT YEAR
1:47:18PM FOR FINANCIAL CLOSING AND CONSTRUCTION START.
1:47:21PM SO THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE WENT BACK TO.
1:47:27PM IN THE RFP, THE CITY ASKED US FOR 20% OF THE UNITS VIA 50%
1:47:31PM AMI OR LESS.
1:47:32PM WE HAVE NOW GOTTEN TO 32% OF THOSE UNITS BECAUSE WHEN WE
1:47:36PM TALKED TO THE CAC ON OUR FIRST MEETING, THEY EXPRESSED A
1:47:39PM CONCERN ABOUT THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS.
1:47:42PM SO WE HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR.
1:47:43PM WE WENT BACK AND PUT 32% INSTEAD OF 20%.
1:47:49PM YOU CAN SEE THE REST OF IT.
1:47:49PM ALMOST 70% OF THE UNITS ARE 60% AMI OR LESS.
1:47:52PM WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS PEOPLE IN TWO-PERSON
1:47:55PM HOUSEHOLDS MAKING $40,000 OR LESS, IN MANY CASES.
1:47:58PM SO INCLUDED IN THERE ARE 30% AMI WHICH THE LEVEL OF LIVING
1:48:04PM STANDARD RIGHT ABOVE HOMELESSNESS.
1:48:07PM SO WE THINK THAT WE BUILT A COMMUNITY.
1:48:10PM WE USE AVERAGE INCOME TEST STRATEGY OR APPROACH WHERE WE PUT
1:48:14PM SOME 80s IN THERE.
1:48:16PM SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE STRATEGY, SO LET ME MAKE
1:48:18PM SURE I EXPLAIN IT.
1:48:19PM WE DID THAT BECAUSE IF YOU ARE IN A 60% AMI ON A TRADITIONAL
1:48:23PM LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPROACH, WHEN YOU EARN OUT OF
1:48:27PM THE 60, WHERE DO YOU GO?
1:48:29PM THERE IS NOT A LOT FOR PEOPLE IN THAT NEXT MISSING MIDDLE SO
1:48:34PM WE WANT TO PUT A FEW UNITS IN THERE SO THE FOLKS DON'T HAVE
1:48:37PM TO TERMINATE THEIR LEASE AND CAN STAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:48:40PM ONCE ABOVE 80 AND MAKING A LITTLE MORE, THERE ARE MORE
1:48:43PM OPTIONS OUT THERE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND IN OTHER
1:48:45PM PARTS OF EAST TAMPA.
1:48:46PM MAYBE YOU'RE IN THE HOME BUYING BUSINESS AT THAT POINT IN
1:48:50PM TIME.
1:48:50PM YOU CAN SEE THE UNIT MIX THERE.
1:48:52PM I THINK I TALKED ABOUT THE AMIs.
1:48:55PM THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE COMPLETED
1:48:58PM AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE ON THE INSIDE.
1:49:00PM THE AMENITIES IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, WE HAVE A
1:49:02PM SELF-KIOSK BISTRO.
1:49:05PM YOU WALK IN, IF YOU WANT TYLENOL, SANDWICH, CHIPS, GET THOSE
1:49:10PM TYPE OF ITEMS, THEY ARE THERE.
1:49:11PM IT RUNS BY A COMPUTER.
1:49:13PM POP YOUR PHONE OR PUT YOUR CREDIT CARD, CHECKOUT, SELF-SERVE
1:49:17PM JUST LIKE YOU DO IN SOME OF THE AIRPORT LOCATIONS.
1:49:19PM THAT WILL BE IN HERE.
1:49:20PM WE'VE NOT -- WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT LUXURY HOUSING, BUT
1:49:23PM THESE ARE THINGS AND AMENITIES THAT WE CAN PUT IN THE
1:49:26PM BUILDING THAT DON'T TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE AND WITHDRAW FROM
1:49:29PM THE EFFICIENCY OF THE BUILDING.
1:49:30PM BUT IT BECOMES AN AMENITY FOR A RESIDENT TO UPGRADE THEIR
1:49:33PM STANDARD OF LIVING.
1:49:34PM WE TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS
1:49:39PM EXPRESSED TO US THE SYMBOLISM OF THE EAST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD
1:49:42PM AND WHO REPRESENTS EAST TAMPA.
1:49:44PM SO WE CAME UP WITH ONE CONCEPT.
1:49:46PM WE SAID WE WOULD HAVE FUTURE ENGAGEMENT WITH RESIDENTS AND
1:49:49PM REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM FROM SOME OF THE
1:49:53PM AMENITIES AND OUTSIDE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, HOW IT
1:49:56PM LOOKS.
1:49:56PM IT'S IN AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
1:49:58PM SO WE PATTERNED AN EXAMPLE OUT OF THAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T
1:50:02PM MEAN IT IS THE FINAL SKIN OF THE BUILDING.
1:50:04PM BUT WE WILL HAVE CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
1:50:07PM AND THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT, BUT THIS WAS
1:50:10PM JUST ONE EXAMPLE WHERE WE WANTED TO CREATE LIKE A WALK OF
1:50:13PM FAME HERE IN TAMPA ALONG THE SIDEWALK, AND IN THAT OPEN AREA
1:50:17PM PARK THAT WE'VE CREATED.
1:50:18PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OCCURS INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY
1:50:23PM DEVELOPMENT BUILDINGS IS THAT WE HAVE SUPPORT SERVICES FOR
1:50:26PM RESIDENTS.
1:50:26PM SO SOMETIMES RESIDENTS MAY NEED TO WORK OVERNIGHT AND WE
1:50:31PM ARRANGE FOR THOSE SERVICES THROUGH OUR NONPROFIT.
1:50:34PM IT IS A SEPARATE ENTITY BUT CALLED THE ASCENT PROJECT.
1:50:39PM THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN OUR PROJECTS.
1:50:40PM LOCAL HIRING.
1:50:43PM THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I AM A NONTRADITIONAL,
1:50:46PM ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.
1:50:47PM I DON'T KNOW HOW I GOT INTO DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT WAS JUST
1:50:49PM BECAUSE I STUMBLED INTO IT.
1:50:51PM THERE WAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I FELL IN LOVE WITH THAT
1:50:53PM WAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
1:50:55PM IT.
1:50:56PM I ENDED UP DOING THAT PROJECT AND FELL IN LOVE WITH DOING
1:50:59PM THIS BUSINESS.
1:50:59PM IF I COULD HAVE TWO MINUTES.
1:51:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: OF COURSE, YEAH.
1:51:02PM WE'LL GIVE YOU FIVE.
1:51:03PM YOU'RE FINE.
1:51:04PM I JUST LIKE TO KEEP TRACK.
1:51:06PM >> NO PROBLEM.
1:51:07PM YOUTH BUILDING CAME OUT OF THAT.
1:51:10PM WE PARTNERED WITH YOUTH BUILD FOR PROBABLY THE LAST TEN
1:51:15PM YEARS OR SO.
1:51:16PM WE DO IT IN ALL THE TERRITORIES THAT WE OPERATE.
1:51:18PM IN FLORIDA, WE WOULD DO THAT HERE AS WELL, IN TAMPA.
1:51:23PM HERE IS A PICTURE OF ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES ON THE LEFT,
1:51:26PM MELISSA FAN-FAN WITH SOME OF THE YOUTH FROM THE YOUTH BUILD
1:51:30PM AND ADMINISTRATORS OF THE YOUTH BUILD PROGRAM IN THAT
1:51:32PM PARTICULAR CITY.
1:51:33PM THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN HERE THAT WAS WORKING AT THE CRA.
1:51:35PM I GAVE HIM MY INFORMATION.
1:51:37PM I SAID, LISTEN, YOU ARE THE KIND OF PERSON WHEN YOU'RE IN
1:51:40PM COLLEGE AND YOU WANT TO DO THIS, WE WANT TO EXPOSE YOU TO
1:51:42PM THIS.
1:51:43PM THE REASON WE WANT TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE WE'RE IN A DEFICIT
1:51:46PM IN THIS INDUSTRY OF PEOPLE SAYING I NO LONGER WANT TO DO
1:51:51PM THAT WORK.
1:51:52PM IT'S NOT SEXY.
1:51:53PM IT'S OUT IN THE SUN.
1:51:54PM IT'S HOT.
1:51:56PM THEY REALLY LOOK AT WHAT CONSTRUCTION BRINGS HOME, I HAVE
1:52:00PM CONTRACTORS WHO TELL ME THAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE NO LONGER
1:52:02PM INTERESTED IN RUNNING THE BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY SAW HOW HARD
1:52:05PM THEIR PARENTS WORKED AT IT.
1:52:06PM BUT THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY HERE.
1:52:08PM IF WE CAN GET YOUNG FOLKS TO BE INTERESTED EVEN IN THE TRADE
1:52:11PM WORK IF THEY HAVE NO DESIRE TO GO TO COLLEGE AND GET A
1:52:14PM TRADITIONAL DEGREE AND THAT PATH, MAYBE PERHAPS THEY CAN
1:52:16PM START IN A TRADE AND THEN UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUSINESS OF THE
1:52:20PM TRADE WORKS AND MAYBE WE CAN CREATE A COUPLE OF SMALL
1:52:22PM BUSINESSES.
1:52:23PM SO THAT WOULD BE OUR GOAL.
1:52:24PM MWB GOALS, THE CITY DIDN'T ASK FOR IT BUT WE COMMITTED 50%
1:52:31PM OF OUR CONTRACTING TO MWB.
1:52:34PM WE BELIEVE IN IT.
1:52:35PM WE'VE DONE IT.
1:52:36PM WE KNOW IT WORKS.
1:52:37PM IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO DO IT IN FLORIDA SO WHY NOT COMMIT TO
1:52:40PM IT AND BE ACCOUNTABLE TO IT?
1:52:43PM ART.
1:52:43PM WE PUT ART IN ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
1:52:45PM THIS IS A PERSONAL THING FOR ME.
1:52:47PM I THINK WHEN YOU COME HOME AND YOU SEE INSPIRATION AND FEEL
1:52:51PM INSPIRATION, YOU PERFORM INSPIRATION.
1:52:53PM THAT'S WHAT WE MADE SURE WE DID HERE OR WE WILL DO HERE WITH
1:52:56PM YOUR SUPPORT.
1:52:56PM FROM A PROJECT BUDGET STANDPOINT SITE ACQUISITION AND
1:53:01PM PARKING, REPRESENTS ABOUT 16%.
1:53:04PM SOFT COSTS ABOUT 18% AND 56% OF THE BULK OF IT GOES TOWARDS
1:53:09PM THE CONSTRUCTION.
1:53:10PM YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN.
1:53:11PM WE WENT BACK, INITIALLY WE ASKED FOR THE FULL AMOUNT ALL IN
1:53:14PM ONE YEAR.
1:53:15PM WE HEARD THE CRA AND THE CAC.
1:53:18PM CLEARLY THE CRA ADMINISTRATION AND WE WENT BACK AND BROKE IT
1:53:21PM DOWN OVER THE YEARS.
1:53:22PM WE ARE CONSTRAINED TO A NORMAL CONSTRUCTION TIME SCHEDULE.
1:53:25PM I WISH I COULD PUSH IT OUT FOR FIVE YEARS.
1:53:28PM BUT WE EVENTUALLY HAVE TO FINISH THE BUILDING.
1:53:30PM AND THOSE COMPONENTS OF FINISHING MEANS PEOPLE HAVE TO GET
1:53:33PM PAID.
1:53:34PM WE STRETCH IT OUT AS FAR AS WE CAN AND WE THINK THIS IS
1:53:36PM SOMETHING DEFINITELY DOABLE.
1:53:38PM IF YOU THINK IT'S DOABLE, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS
1:53:41PM EXPEDITIOUSLY AND GET THIS PROJECT DONE.
1:53:43PM JUST TO NOTE HERE, THE CRA REQUIREMENTS WERE 50% MATCH.
1:53:51PM WE'RE AT 352%.
1:53:53PM AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FEASIBILITY ANYMORE.
1:53:58PM WE'RE SAYING IF WE GET THIS AWARD TODAY, WE'RE GONE.
1:54:02PM WE'RE CLOSING NEXT YEAR.
1:54:03PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ARE THOSE GUYS GOING TO DO IT,
1:54:07PM DO THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO THE OTHER THING?
1:54:09PM WE FINISHED THE GEOTECHNICAL.
1:54:11PM WE FOUND A VOID IN THE SITE.
1:54:13PM THE REASON THE SITE LOOKS THE WAY IT LOOKS, THE WAY THE
1:54:16PM PARKING IS STRUCTURED IS BECAUSE WE CANNOT BUILD ON TOP OF
1:54:18PM THAT VOID.
1:54:19PM SO ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND, THE WAY THE PARKING
1:54:23PM IS SET UP WAS VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT WITH OUR ARCHITECTS, BUT
1:54:26PM IT'S ALSO RESPONSIVE TO ALL THAT DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE DID
1:54:30PM ALREADY.
1:54:31PM WE CAN SHARE MORE OF THAT IF NECESSARY, BUT NOTHING WE'RE
1:54:36PM GOING TO DO, WE CAN'T BUILD ON TOP OF IT.
1:54:38PM 118 UNITS, AND ALL OF THE UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE BY
1:54:43PM DEFINITION.
1:54:43PM SO THEY ARE ALL 80% AND LOW.
1:54:46PM AS I SHOWED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE MAJORITY ARE 60% AMI.
1:54:51PM WE PUT IN A FEW 80s SO WE CAN ABSORB FOLKS WHO ARE MAKING
1:54:55PM HIGHER INCOME.
1:54:56PM WE WANT THAT.
1:54:57PM WE WANT PEOPLE TO CONTINUALLY IMPROVE AND MAKE MORE INCOME
1:55:00PM AND NOT BE DISPLACED.
1:55:01PM PUT IN THIS SLIDE ABOUT CRA COMPLIANCE.
1:55:06PM I CAN MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN HERE IF
1:55:09PM WE WEREN'T COMPLIANT WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE CRA
1:55:11PM OUTLINE.
1:55:12PM SO I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
1:55:14PM I HOPE I DIDN'T RUSH THROUGH ANYTHING, BUT I REALLY WANTED
1:55:17PM TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT A FEEL OF HOW WE REALLY DID A LOT
1:55:21PM OF HOMEWORK ON THIS PROJECT AND GOT BEFORE YOU VERY
1:55:25PM THOUGHTFULLY AND REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL.
1:55:28PM IT IS A TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT.
1:55:29PM IT'S NOT JUST A SINGLE SITE.
1:55:31PM IT'S BLOCK BUILDING AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS
1:55:33PM PROJECT.
1:55:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
1:55:34PM GREAT PRESENTATION.
1:55:35PM I SEE BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO'S LIGHT ON.
1:55:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:55:39PM GREAT PRESENTATION.
1:55:42PM I LIKE THE FACT THAT A THIRD OF THE HOUSING IS 50% OR BELOW
1:55:51PM AMI.
1:55:52PM FAMILIES, I'M GOING TO ASSUME.
1:55:56PM SO IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY THAT NEEDS A TWO-BEDROOM AND THEY
1:55:59PM ARE AT THE 30% AMI, WOULD THEY BE ELIGIBLE?
1:56:03PM >> YES.
1:56:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THE LOWEST INCOME
1:56:09PM LEVEL, A FAMILY WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE IN HERE.
1:56:12PM >> THAT'S RIGHT.
1:56:12PM AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, WE DON'T -- WE COULD BE SLICK AND TRY
1:56:17PM TO SAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT ALL THE NEED UNITS OR THE
1:56:21PM LOWEST SET ASIDE ON STUDIOS.
1:56:23PM WE DON'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.
1:56:24PM WE DISTRIBUTE THEM PRO RATA.
1:56:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS.
1:56:29PM IT'S NOT JUST INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED THE HOUSING.
1:56:31PM IT'S THE FAMILIES THAT NEED THE HOUSING.
1:56:33PM >> THAT'S RIGHT.
1:56:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I NOTICED IN THE AMENITIES YOU HAVE A
1:56:38PM COMPUTER ROOM.
1:56:39PM I SAW COMPUTERS IN THE ROOM.
1:56:41PM IS THAT JUST AN IMAGE OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO
1:56:43PM BE A COMMUNITY SPACE?
1:56:45PM >> THAT IS A COMMUNITY SPACE.
1:56:46PM BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND IN ALL OF OUR PROJECTS IS NOT EVERYONE
1:56:49PM CAN AFFORD SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED.
1:56:53PM WE ALSO FOUND YOUNG PEOPLE WHO -- ONE SIDE STORY.
1:56:58PM I HAD A YOUNG MAN IN A PROJECT THAT I WAS DOING.
1:57:00PM HE WAS RIDING THE METRO BUS DOWN SO MANY MILES BECAUSE IT
1:57:06PM HAD FREE WIFI ON THE BUS AND HE NEEDED TO TAKE HIS FINALS.
1:57:09PM THAT WAS MAYBE EIGHT YEARS AGO I HEARD THE STORY.
1:57:14PM I SAID GOING FORWARD WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE WIFI IN ALL THE
1:57:18PM COMMUNITY AREAS.
1:57:19PM IT WON'T BE ENOUGH FOR YOU TO WATCH NETFLIX ALL DAY AND TAKE
1:57:22PM UP THE BANDWIDTH, YOU CAN DO THAT IN YOUR UNIT, BUT BASIC
1:57:26PM INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE IN THE COMMON AREAS, AND TO
1:57:29PM THIS ROOM, THERE WILL BE COMPUTERS THAT WE PROVIDE THAT
1:57:32PM RESIDENTS WILL LOG INTO AND THEY CAN USE THAT IF THEY DON'T
1:57:34PM HAVE A COMPUTER IN THEIR HOME.
1:57:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE
1:57:38PM CAN'T AFFORD A COMPUTER, UNABLE TO AND HAVING ACCESS TO A
1:57:42PM COMPUTER, WHAT IF THEY WANTED TO START AN ONLINE BUSINESS?
1:57:45PM I WAS WITH A GENTLEMAN SATURDAY.
1:57:47PM HIS LIFE STORY WAS I HAD NOTHING.
1:57:50PM WITH MY RUNNING MATE, WE GOT AN APARTMENT AND I STARTED MY
1:57:53PM BUSINESS OUT OF THE BEDROOM.
1:57:55PM NOW HE'S WEALTHY AND ON HIS OWN.
1:57:58PM JUST HAVING ACCESS TO A COMPUTER, THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE
1:58:00PM MONEY.
1:58:00PM MAY NOT HAVE THE iPAD, IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
1:58:03PM MY QUESTION WOULD THEN -- I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT.
1:58:08PM >> THANK YOU.
1:58:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE SERIOUS.
1:58:10PM YOU TOUCHED ON THE 50% GOAL REGARDING WBE OR MBE.
1:58:18PM YOU DISCUSSED THAT.
1:58:19PM OF COURSE, IT'S 118 UNITS, IT'S A SIZABLE PROJECT THAT WILL
1:58:24PM BE IMPACTFUL.
1:58:26PM MY QUESTION THEN WOULD BE TO MR. McCRAY, WHAT WAS THE
1:58:29PM RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CAC?
1:58:32PM I SAW THAT IT IS A MULTIYEAR $9.7 MILLION PROJECT, ASKED TO
1:58:38PM SPREAD OUT.
1:58:39PM WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF?
1:58:41PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:58:41PM CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR, EAST TAMPA CRA MANAGER.
1:58:46PM THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 9.7 MILLION
1:58:50PM ASK AND THERE ARE -- WAS SEVERAL -- A LOT OF CONVERSATION
1:58:55PM FROM THE CAC, THE VOTE AT THAT POINT WAS 6-5 FROM THE CAC
1:58:59PM MEMBERS AT THAT TIME.
1:59:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE HAD EARLIER BEFORE
1:59:03PM LUNCH AND HAVING TO REPROGRAM -- SO IF WE WERE TO APPROVE
1:59:06PM THE FULL AMOUNT, WOULD WE HAVE TO REPROGRAM, GO THROUGH ALL
1:59:10PM THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE WENT EARLIER THIS MORNING?
1:59:13PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, IT IS A MULTIYEAR COMMITMENT, WE WOULD
1:59:16PM HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS BUDGETARILY
1:59:20PM MOVING FORWARD.
1:59:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WOULD BE AFFECTED?
1:59:23PM WHERE WOULD YOU TAKE THE MONEY FROM?
1:59:24PM HOUSING REHAB AND ALL THAT.
1:59:26PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: I CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY WHICH LINE ITEM WE
1:59:30PM WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST.
1:59:31PM WE HAVE MONEY IN THE -- CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD
1:59:37PM INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I WILL ALLOW MS. PARKS TO SPEAK TO IT AS
1:59:39PM WELL.
1:59:42PM >>BELIX PARKS: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR McCRAY.
1:59:46PM I WAS GOING TO LET YOU KNOW THE LINE ITEMS THAT IT WILL COME
1:59:48PM FROM.
1:59:49PM SO, AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE THE REQUEST FOR THE INITIAL
1:59:55PM ALLOCATION OF 2.125 MILLION FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION PART
2:00:00PM AND THEN WE HAVE THE REMAINING 7.575 MILLION DISBURSED OVER
2:00:06PM A THREE-YEAR TERM.
2:00:09PM FY '26, 2.5, 27-28, 2.5 AS WELL.
2:00:14PM THESE FUNDS WILL BE DRAWN FROM THE UNIT CREATION AND
2:00:19PM CONVERSION NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE AND EAST TAMPA
2:00:22PM CONTINUOUS PROJECTS ACCOUNT.
2:00:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:00:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK OR CLENDENIN.
2:00:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE THIS PROJECT.
2:00:34PM THIS IS KIND OF -- WHAT WE SAW EARLIER WAS A SMALLER PROJECT
2:00:41PM THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO FOR LIHTC FUNDING TO GET
2:00:46PM SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT THIS PROJECT WAS ABLE TO DO.
2:00:49PM MY ONLY HESITATION, AND THIS IS JUST MORE OF A PERSONAL
2:00:54PM NATURE, I REALLY HATE PARKING LOTS.
2:00:58PM JUST THE ADDED MONEY FOR THAT KILLS ME, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE
2:01:01PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, THIS IS OUR LAND, AND WE'RE DONATING IT,
2:01:05PM LIKE, WE OWN THIS LAND, DO WE NOT?
2:01:07PM YEAH.
2:01:08PM I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT, BUT THAT'S JUST -- IF I DIDN'T HAVE
2:01:15PM TO PUT IN THE MONEY TO BUY THE OTHER LOT, I WOULD BE HAPPY.
2:01:19PM ER.
2:01:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
2:01:23PM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:01:25PM >> CAN I SPEAK TO IT?
2:01:26PM IF WE COULD GET DOWN TO A PARKING RATIO THAT WAS SUBOPTIMAL,
2:01:32PM WE WOULD DO THAT.
2:01:33PM WHAT I MEAN BY SUBOPTIMAL IS PEOPLE WOULD COME HOME AND THEY
2:01:36PM WOULDN'T KNOW IF THEY HAD A PLACE TO PARK.
2:01:39PM WHEN YOU HAVE -- TO DO THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY BUILDING, YOU
2:01:43PM HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CANVAS YOU ARE GIVEN.
2:01:45PM IN THIS CASE, THE CITY CAN'T EXPAND THE LAND ON EITHER ONE
2:01:53PM OF THE PARCELS SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.
2:01:55PM WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RESPONSIBLE AND NOT HAVE
2:01:58PM CARS SPILL OUT IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND BECOME A NUISANCE FOR
2:02:02PM THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED THE PROJECT.
2:02:04PM PUT THE PARKING IN THE REAR.
2:02:05PM I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
2:02:06PM THAT WAS INTENTIONAL.
2:02:07PM THAT ALSO WAS A RESPONSE TO THE VOID ON THE CORNER OF THE
2:02:10PM PROPERTY AND THEN THE LAST PIECE IS WE'RE PUTTING IN
2:02:13PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
2:02:13PM AND THAT'S WHY THE ADDITIONAL LAND IS NEEDED.
2:02:16PM WE'RE NOT EVEN TAPPING INTO THE RETAINAGE POND TO THE EAST.
2:02:22PM WE'RE DOING ALL OF THAT UNDERGROUND.
2:02:24PM YOU NEED LAND IN ORDER TO RETAIN THAT WATER.
2:02:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A REASON YOU'RE NOT TAPPING INTO
2:02:30PM THAT?
2:02:31PM >> CAPACITY.
2:02:31PM YOU GUYS WON'T DO YOUR NEW TEST OR YOUR STUDY UNTIL NEXT
2:02:35PM AUGUST I BELIEVE IT IS.
2:02:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
2:02:37PM WE CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT.
2:02:38PM MY OTHER QUESTION ALONG WITH THAT IS, YOU SAID THAT YOU WANT
2:02:41PM TO HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING, BUT A CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE
2:02:45PM HAVING ON COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IS WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
2:02:48PM BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT OUR CURRENT PARKING MINIMUMS ARE TOO
2:02:53PM BIG IN MANY INSTANCES.
2:02:55PM JUST SPEAKING IS THIS OVER-PARKED?
2:02:59PM >> NO, THIS IS NOT OVER-PARKED.
2:03:01PM WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A WAIVER, A VARIANCE, BECAUSE -- BUT
2:03:06PM WE STILL WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE A ONE-TO-ONE AND THEN ALSO
2:03:09PM ACCOMMODATING THE LARGER PARKING FOR THE SHARED LIVE --
2:03:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.
2:03:17PM I WANT TO KNOW JUST ABOUT THE PARKING FOR THIS, NOT ABOUT
2:03:20PM THE PARKING FOR THE ECONOMIC DRIVER.
2:03:26PM THIS IS JUST PARKING JUST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
2:03:29PM >> THERE ARE A FEW SPACES AND SHARED PARKING, BUT THIS IS
2:03:32PM NOT OVER-PARKED.
2:03:33PM WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER.
2:03:35PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, OUR CIVIL TEAM WAS LIKE, YOU CAN'T DO
2:03:37PM THAT.
2:03:38PM I SAID NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY, BUT
2:03:41PM THEY FELT WE NEEDED MORE PARKING.
2:03:43PM WE SAID WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT MUCH PARKING.
2:03:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
2:03:47PM JUST THE VISUAL SCREAMED A LOT MORE PARKING.
2:03:54PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WANT TO ADD TO THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN
2:03:56PM DISCUSSIONS WITH THEIR TEAM.
2:03:59PM ABBYE FEELEY.
2:04:00PM WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEIR TEAM.
2:04:02PM IN FACT, USING THE .8 THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR LIVE LOCAL,
2:04:07PM THEY FEEL THAT THEIR PRODUCT THAT THEY HAVE BUILT, THEY NEED
2:04:09PM A MINIMUM OF ONE SPACE PER UNIT AT LEAST.
2:04:12PM WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT IF WE START AT ONE PLACE AND THEN
2:04:18PM MAYBE SOMETHING WOULD HAVE MORE, LATER WE COULD GET ENOUGH
2:04:21PM MONEY TO BUILD A GARAGE VERSUS, BUT AS YOU KNOW, A GARAGE AT
2:04:24PM $30,000 A SPACE JUST BLOWS THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE PROJECT
2:04:29PM OUT OF THE WATER.
2:04:30PM WE HAVE BEEN IN VERY ROBUST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE
2:04:34PM MINIMIZE THAT, HOW DO WE MAYBE DO THINGS IN PHASES WHERE WE
2:04:38PM CAN START OUT AND THEN TRY SOMETHING, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE
2:04:43PM SURE THE PROJECT IS SUCCESSFUL.
2:04:44PM I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND ALSO THEY
2:04:47PM WILL HAVE A CBA WITH THIS PROJECT GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
2:04:50PM THAT THEY ARE GETTING.
2:04:51PM THE WMBE AND OTHER COMMITMENTS THAT WAS SPOKEN TO, THOSE
2:04:57PM WOULD GO INTO THAT CBA AS PART OF THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
2:05:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
2:05:02PM THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
2:05:03PM THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY LAST THING, DEFINITELY, WHAT YOU'RE
2:05:05PM DOING IN TERMS OF COMMITTING TO SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW,
2:05:12PM WOMEN OWNED, MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES IS JUST PHENOMENAL.
2:05:15PM THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
2:05:16PM IT FEELS LIKE YOU WATCHED A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE DONE OR AT
2:05:19PM LEAST TALKED TO THE RIGHT --
2:05:21PM >> 32 YEARS.
2:05:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: -- MEMBERS OF STAFF.
2:05:26PM LITERALLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT OUR COUNCIL IS DOING.
2:05:28PM I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
2:05:29PM MAYBE WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS THAT WE BUILD IT, WHERE YOU BUILD
2:05:34PM IT, YOU SEE IF MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO ADD MORE PARKING FOR
2:05:37PM THE OTHER SECTION.
2:05:39PM MAYBE THERE IS THIS PARKING CAN BE SHARED DURING THE DAY, IN
2:05:42PM THE EVENING KIND OF THING.
2:05:44PM THAT'S JUST, YEAH.
2:05:47PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT OVER-PARKING.
2:05:49PM I DO AGREE WITH YOU.
2:05:52PM PARKING BELONGS RIGHT NEXT TO THE INTERSTATE.
2:05:54PM WE'VE GOTTEN CALLS AND E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE SAYING I'M
2:05:57PM WORRIED ABOUT AIR QUALITY.
2:05:59PM PUTTING IT FAR AWAY FROM THE INTERSTATE IS JUST KIND OF THE
2:06:02PM NO-BRAINER.
2:06:03PM YOU PUT IT ON THAT SIDE OF THE LOT.
2:06:05PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
2:06:05PM THANK YOU.
2:06:07PM I STILL DON'T LOVE IT, THE PARKING PART, BUT I DO SUPPORT
2:06:11PM THE PROJECT.
2:06:12PM I THINK IT'S FABULOUS.
2:06:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
2:06:14PM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:06:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAID ONE FOR ONE ON PARKING.
2:06:20PM >> WE THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT MINIMUM.
2:06:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S PRETTY CONSERVATIVE.
2:06:25PM MY BIGGEST CONCERN, NOT THAT I'M OBJECTING TO THE PROPOSAL
2:06:31PM BECAUSE OF THIS, MS. FEELEY AND I HAD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT
2:06:35PM OTHER PROJECTS, I'LL SAY THIS FOR THE RECORD ON THESE
2:06:38PM PROJECTS.
2:06:38PM ONE, FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HOW WE'RE DEVELOPING THINGS,
2:06:41PM ARE WE REPEATING THE SAME MISTAKES, THE SINS OF THE PAST?
2:06:45PM I SEE THIS IS HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE PROJECT, NOT TRULY
2:06:49PM MIXED UNITS.
2:06:50PM YOU'RE INSTITUTIONALIZING ALL POOR PEOPLE OR -- IS THIS THE
2:07:01PM PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO APPEAR ITS UGLY HEAD IN 20 YEARS
2:07:07PM THAT WE SAY WHY IN THE WORLD DID WE DO THAT?
2:07:09PM I'M SURPRISED WITH THIS ONE AND SURPRISED WITH A COUPLE OF
2:07:12PM OTHERS.
2:07:13PM HOW ARE WE DOING THIS AGAIN?
2:07:15PM THEY MADE THIS MISTAKE IN THE '50s AND '60s WHEN THEY
2:07:19PM INSTITUTIONALIZED POOR, TO BE QUITE FRANK, PEOPLE THAT DON'T
2:07:23PM LOOK LIKE ME, ALL IN ONE PLACE AND THE KIDS GROW UP AND
2:07:28PM GENERATIONAL POVERTY.
2:07:30PM NO EXAMPLES FOR SUCCESS, THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR.
2:07:34PM IT'S ALL JUST PEOPLE STRUGGLING EVERY DAY TO GET BY.
2:07:37PM I MUCH PREFER TO SEE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE SEE AROUND
2:07:45PM THE CITY AND AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD NOW
2:07:48PM WHEN WE SEE TRUE MIXED DEVELOPMENTS WHERE YOU DON'T
2:07:53PM INSTITUTIONALIZE POOR PEOPLE ALL IN ONE PLACE.
2:07:56PM YOU HAVE EXAMPLES FOR THE KIDS TO GROW UP IN.
2:07:59PM I GET WHAT YOU'RE WORKING FOR HERE, AND THIS IS A
2:08:02PM PROBLEMATIC PIECE OF PROPERTY.
2:08:04PM IT'S NOT AN IDEAL LOCATION.
2:08:08PM WHAT IS THE ASSURANCE THAT THE OTHER PART OF THE PROJECT
2:08:11PM WILL GET BUILT AND HOW IS IT BEING FUNDED?
2:08:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A WEE CLAP BACK TO YOU, OUR SALARY,
2:08:24PM WE'RE UNDER 80%.
2:08:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW.
2:08:29PM I GET IT.
2:08:31PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THIS WAS AN RFP.
2:08:32PM WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, THE CITY DID WITH CDBG FUNDS AND
2:08:36PM PUT IT OUT FOR RFP.
2:08:38PM THERE IS AN AGREEMENT THAT GOES WITH THE AWARD OF THE RFP.
2:08:41PM IN THAT AGREEMENT THAT WAS NEGOTIATED BY MYSELF, REBECCA
2:08:45PM JOHN, IT REQUIRES FIRST THAT THEY BUILD THE HOUSING BECAUSE
2:08:48PM THAT'S OUR GREATEST NEED.
2:08:50PM AS YOU KNOW, OUR GREATEST NEED IS IN THAT 80 AND BELOW UNITS
2:08:53PM RIGHT NOW.
2:08:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMEMBER WE HAD THE CONVERSATION.
2:08:55PM YOU AND I HAVE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT MY CONCERN --
2:08:58PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: BUT YOU JUST TRIGGERED A THOUGHT IN MY HEAD
2:09:02PM WHILE SITTING THERE, WHILE WE PUT THEM UNDER AFFORDABILITY
2:09:06PM PERIOD FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN'T IN
2:09:08PM 15 YEARS SAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT X NUMBER OF UNITS
2:09:12PM OVER TO MARKET.
2:09:13PM WHILE THAT THOUGHT JUST CAME IN AND I'M GOING TO WORK ON
2:09:17PM THAT IN HOW WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS, I THINK KNOWING WHERE
2:09:20PM WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND GIVEN THAT WE DON'T WANT AFFORDABILITY
2:09:24PM FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEN EVERYTHING BECOMES MARKET BECAUSE
2:09:27PM THAT'S HOW WE'RE GETTING TO WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO SERVE OUR
2:09:31PM COMMUNITY, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT AS
2:09:35PM THE INVENTORY GROWS AND PERHAPS THOSE NEEDS ARE DIFFERENT.
2:09:39PM THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT.
2:09:40PM THE AGREEMENT FOR THE RFP OUTSIDE OF THIS FUNDING AGREEMENT
2:09:46PM REQUIRES THAT THERE IS PERFORMANCE AND THAT BOTH PARTS OF
2:09:49PM THE PROJECT ARE BUILT WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME.
2:09:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW I HAD PROBABLY KNOWN THAT AT ONE
2:09:57PM POINT IN MY LIFE.
2:09:59PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THAT AWARD AND
2:10:02PM AGREEMENT CAME TO YOU AND THEY STARTED SECURING THEIR OWN
2:10:04PM FUNDING AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED THEY NEEDED ASSISTANCE WITH
2:10:07PM THAT.
2:10:08PM THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
2:10:09PM ALL THESE PIECES ARE BUILDING ON ONE ANOTHER AND NEED TO BE
2:10:13PM IN CONCERT WITH ONE ANOTHER.
2:10:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
2:10:15PM RIGHT ABOUT $80,000 PER UNIT.
2:10:22PM >> LITTLE LESS THAN THAT, I BELIEVE.
2:10:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, COMPARED TO WHAT
2:10:26PM WE SAW THIS MORNING, THIS IS 80,000 AT SUBSTANTIALLY MORE --
2:10:30PM I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF FUNDING THAT
2:10:33PM YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACQUIRE AND LAND DONATION, IT'S NOT
2:10:39PM QUITE THE BURDEN PER UNIT -- MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE
2:10:43PM TOTAL BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE COST OF GOVERNMENT IS FOR THIS.
2:10:48PM RELATIVELY MODEST FOR THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
2:10:50PM AGAIN, THE PLACEMENT, THE LOCATION, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, IT
2:10:54PM KIND OF CHECKS OFF A LOT OF BOXES.
2:11:00PM AS WE MOVE FORWARD, LET'S BE CAREFUL ABOUT NOT CREATING
2:11:03PM PROBLEMATIC PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE A MIX OF PEOPLE WORKING
2:11:14PM TOGETHER AND WE CREATE A BETTER SOCIETY MOVING FORWARD AND
2:11:16PM DON'T REPEAT THE SAME SENTENCE.
2:11:19PM THANK YOU.
2:11:20PM >> SAY TO YOU FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, I WILL JOIN
2:11:24PM CONTRIBUTING TO YOUR LOBBYIST EFFORTS IN TALLAHASSEE BECAUSE
2:11:28PM A LOT OF THIS IS NOT UNDER OUR LOCAL CONTROL.
2:11:31PM THIS COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND FROM THE STATE.
2:11:33PM I WOULD LOVE TO JOIN YOUR ADVISORY TEAM WHEN YOU WANT TO
2:11:38PM TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A PATH TO
2:11:40PM DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH PEOPLE
2:11:44PM LOBBYING FOR IT.
2:11:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
2:11:46PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, SECOND ROUND.
2:11:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU
2:11:50PM GET THE LIHTC FUNDING FOR 80% AND BELOW.
2:11:54PM >> THAT IS EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS.
2:12:00PM >> I DO, I GET IT.
2:12:01PM [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
2:12:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT, BUT
2:12:11PM I DO WANT TO TALK TO MR. McCRAY ABOUT THE FACT WHEN THESE
2:12:15PM COME IN FRONT OF US, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE
2:12:18PM IN THE FUTURE AND JUST THE HOUSING TEAM IN GENERAL IF THIS
2:12:22PM IS AN RFP OF OURS, I'M ALSO TALKING TO MS. FEELEY AND HER
2:12:27PM TEAM, IF IT IS AN RFP OF OURS, WE NEED TO HAVE PRESENTATION
2:12:30PM FIRST BY STAFF SAYING THIS IS THE RFP.
2:12:34PM WE DID THIS.
2:12:35PM BECAUSE, QUITE HONESTLY, IT DOESN'T DO US -- WHY WOULD WE
2:12:43PM SHOOT THIS DOWN?
2:12:44PM WE NEED TO KNOW GOING IN THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE PUT
2:12:48PM OUT AN RFP FOR.
2:12:49PM WE PROVIDED THE LAND FOR.
2:12:51PM WE DID ALL THIS.
2:12:52PM HEARING THIS IN A VACUUM DOES NOT HELP US MAKE A DECISION.
2:12:58PM I THINK THAT IS A REALLY, REALLY BIG POINT COMPARED TO WHAT
2:13:03PM WE HEARD EARLIER TODAY.
2:13:04PM AGAIN, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION BY
2:13:08PM STAFF BEFORE WE ALLOW A PRESENTERS TO PRESENT.
2:13:12PM JUST, AGAIN, IT GIVES ME A WHOLE DIFFERENT MINDSET, HAVING
2:13:16PM KNOWN A LITTLE ABOUT THE PROJECT AND TALKING TO YOU ABOUT
2:13:19PM IT, AND JUST REMEMBERING WHEN WE BOUGHT IT.
2:13:21PM I ASKED TODAY, DURING BREAK, I WAS LIKE, DIDN'T WE BUY THAT?
2:13:26PM AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL INFORMATION BECAUSE THIS
2:13:30PM IS BUILDING UPON WHAT WE AS A COUNCIL AND WE AS A BOARD ARE
2:13:35PM TRYING TO PROVIDE IN TERMS OF HOUSING.
2:13:39PM JUST LIKE YOU ALL, WE'RE ALL SUPER BUSY AND WE MAY NOT
2:13:42PM REMEMBER.
2:13:42PM IT WOULD JUST BE REALLY -- IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HELP LEAD
2:13:47PM IN, HELP BUILD THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS -- WHILE -- THIS IS
2:13:53PM BASICALLY A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BUT IT WASN'T
2:13:57PM ADVERTISED THAT WAY IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
2:13:59PM SO HE CAME IN BECAUSE WE PUT AN RFP OUT.
2:14:03PM THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WANT TO FUND.
2:14:06PM WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THESE PARTNERSHIPS, BUT I THINK WE NEED
2:14:11PM TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE ROBUST ON HOW WE SHARE THAT GOING
2:14:14PM FORWARD, SO WE KNOW, LIKE, THESE ARE THE THINGS WHERE WE'RE
2:14:17PM GOING FORWARD THAT WE REALLY WANT TO EARMARK AND MAKE SURE
2:14:21PM WE HAVE FUNDING FOR.
2:14:23PM >> YES, MA'AM.
2:14:24PM POINT TAKEN.
2:14:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
2:14:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE 8.
2:14:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
2:14:30PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:14:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:14:32PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:14:34PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS.
2:14:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
2:14:37PM OKAY, WE GO TO OUR NEXT AND LAST ITEM I BELIEVE IT IS.
2:14:39PM MR. McCRAY, GO FOR IT.
2:14:46PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:14:47PM CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
2:14:49PM AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TO
2:14:52PM YOU ALL THE DRAFT FY '26 BUDGET FOR THE TAMPA CRA.
2:14:56PM WE CAN PULL THE PowerPoint UP.
2:15:01PM APPRECIATE IT.
2:15:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR PURPOSES OF TIME, ROUGHLY HOW MUCH DO YOU
2:15:06PM NEED?
2:15:07PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE CAN BE DONE WITHIN MAYBE 10 MINUTES.
2:15:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE'LL GIVE YOU 15.
2:15:12PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:15:13PM PROBABLY LESS THAN 10.
2:15:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MEETING AT 2:30.
2:15:17PM I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO MR. McCRAY ABOUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE
2:15:27PM TO SEE IN TERMS OF JUST SOME CHANGES.
2:15:30PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES.
2:15:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DIFFERENT CHANGES.
2:15:37PM VERY QUICKLY, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THESE -- IN THESE
2:15:46PM INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS WE'RE SEEING 26, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SEE
2:15:51PM 25.
2:15:52PM 25 REVISED BUDGET, THE CONSUMPTION, THE FUNDS AVAILABLE,
2:15:56PM LIKE, WHAT'S ENCUMBERED AND WHAT'S STILL AVAILABLE FROM THIS
2:16:01PM PAST YEAR.
2:16:02PM I THINK IT WILL HELP ALLOW US TO SEE CLEARER.
2:16:05PM I ASKED FOR THAT BETWEEN THIS MEETING AND THE NEXT CRA
2:16:08PM MEETING.
2:16:09PM IF I HAVE TO LEAVE, THAT'S MY REQUEST.
2:16:15PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES.
2:16:16PM THANK YOU.
2:16:16PM WE WILL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE MEMBERS OF THE
2:16:20PM BOARD.
2:16:20PM WE WILL PRESENT EACH CRA SEPARATELY.
2:16:25PM MS. ORR WILL BE THE FIRST MANAGER UP.
2:16:32PM >>COURTNEY ORR: GOOD AFTERNOON, COURTNEY ORR, CRA
2:16:34PM DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR THE URBAN CORE.
2:16:36PM I'M GOING TO START THE PRESENTATION.
2:16:41PM SHOWING THE MAPS OF THE NINE BUDGETS YOU'RE GOING TO BE
2:16:46PM HEARING ABOUT TODAY.
2:16:47PM AND STARTING WITH CENTRAL PARK.
2:16:50PM SO THERE'S SOME BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT CENTRAL PARK, ITS
2:16:54PM SIZE, WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED, ITS SUNSET YEAR.
2:16:57PM FISCAL YEAR 26, WE HAVE THE FINALIZED INFORMATION TO BUDGET
2:17:03PM A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION, WHICH IS 43% INCREASE OVER FISCAL
2:17:09PM YEAR '25'S FUNDS.
2:17:11PM EACH SLIDE YOU SEE HERE IS GOING TO LOOK THE SAME FOR EVERY
2:17:16PM SINGLE ONE OF THE DISTRICTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING
2:17:19PM ABOUT.
2:17:19PM BY ROMAN NUMERAL, ALL THE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS IN OUR
2:17:25PM BUDGET.
2:17:26PM OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATION ARE GOING TO COVER THINGS LIKE
2:17:28PM SALARIES, COST ALLOCATION FOR THE USE OF THE OTHER -- FOR
2:17:32PM THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE STAFF OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND IF
2:17:36PM YOU DO SEE A ZERO, IT'S NOT THAT WE DIDN'T -- DON'T HAVE
2:17:41PM MONEY IN THAT LINE ITEM.
2:17:42PM IT'S BECAUSE FUNDING WILL ROLL OVER SUFFICIENTLY.
2:17:46PM JUST WANTED TO PREFACE THAT, THAT WHEN YOU SEE ZERO, IT'S
2:17:49PM NOT THAT THERE ISN'T ANY MONEY IN THE LINE ITEM.
2:17:52PM IT'S JUST IT WASN'T NECESSARY TO BE ALLOTTED IN THE LINE
2:17:54PM ITEMS FOR FISCAL YEAR '26.
2:17:56PM REDEVELOPMENT -- COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH HAS A LITTLE
2:18:04PM BIT OF MONEY BUT END UP REALLOCATING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR
2:18:07PM THE RFP THAT WE WILL ADVERTISE.
2:18:10PM EVENTUALLY WE'LL HAVE TO PUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THERE
2:18:13PM WHEN WE LAND ON THE EXACT NUMBER OF WHAT THAT RFP SHOULD BE
2:18:17PM PUT ON THE STREET FOR.
2:18:18PM REDEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS,
2:18:26PM THAT'S WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
2:18:30PM PREDEVELOPMENT GRANTS, COMMERCIAL EXTERIOR GRANTS,
2:18:33PM COMMERCIAL INTERIOR GRANTS, SPECIAL PROJECTS GRANTS.
2:18:37PM THAT'S THE MONEY THAT IS IN OUR REDEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT,
2:18:39PM AND YOU CAN SEE I DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT NECESSARILY A LOT OF
2:18:42PM MONEY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ROLLOVER FUNDING COMING FROM FISCAL
2:18:44PM YEAR '25.
2:18:46PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT IS THE 30% SET ASIDE FOR THAT -- OF
2:18:52PM THAT 2 MILLION.
2:18:53PM CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE GOING TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE
2:18:59PM WAY-FINDING SIGNAGE.
2:19:01PM WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THAT PROJECT OFF THE GROUND.
2:19:03PM SO THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE IN THE URBAN CORE.
2:19:07PM MONIES THAT ARE ALLOTTED TOWARD IT.
2:19:09PM PUBLIC ART OPPORTUNITIES AND THE ADA IMPROVEMENTS IN THE
2:19:13PM PARKS.
2:19:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:19:24PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:19:26PM >>COURTNEY ORR: THE OTHER ONES ARE ZERO.
2:19:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE] SO THE ROLLOVER, DID WE GET A
2:19:38PM REPORT ON THE ROLLOVER ON THE CRAs?
2:19:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT I ASKED -- THAT'S WHAT
2:19:43PM I PUT FORWARD, THAT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE.
2:19:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S DIFFICULT TO APPROVE A BUDGET WITHOUT
2:19:48PM SEEING THOSE LINES.
2:19:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
2:19:50PM THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR IT.
2:19:52PM IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO THROW THIS UP.
2:19:57PM THAT IS EAST TAMPA SPECIFIC, BUT IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF
2:20:07PM WHAT I THOUGHT WAS SO GOOD, AND THEY ALREADY MAKE THIS
2:20:10PM IN-HOUSE.
2:20:11PM IF WE COULD SWITCH TO THE WOLF.
2:20:13PM THIS TELLS YOU, REVISED BUDGET FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR,
2:20:20PM EXPENDITURE, OR WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN EXPENDED, FUNDS THAT ARE
2:20:23PM NOW AVAILABLE.
2:20:24PM IT REALLY GIVES YOU MUCH BETTER, CLEARER IDEA.
2:20:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE NEED THIS FOR EACH CRA.
2:20:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WHAT I ASKED FOR, BETWEEN NOW AND
2:20:35PM NEXT TIME.
2:20:35PM BUT I ASKED IF THEY COULD GET IT TO US BEFOREHAND, THEY CAN
2:20:39PM E-MAIL IT TO US SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
2:20:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE SOME OBSERVATIONS, UNLESS I HAVE
2:20:46PM ALL THAT INFORMATION, I WON'T BE ABLE TO INTELLIGENTLY TALK
2:20:50PM TO IT.
2:20:50PM THANK YOU.
2:20:59PM >>COURTNEY ORR: WE COVERED CENTRAL PARK.
2:21:00PM NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO CHANNEL DISTRICT.
2:21:02PM THERE AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THE ACREAGE OF CHANNEL DISTRICT.
2:21:05PM ITS ESTABLISHMENT YEAR, ITS SUNSET YEAR, AND THEN HOW MUCH
2:21:10PM MONEY WE ARE EXPECTING TO RECEIVE IN FISCAL YEAR '26, WHICH
2:21:14PM IS A 17% INCREASE OVER FISCAL YEAR '25.
2:21:17PM HERE AGAIN YOU'LL SEE OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATION AND WHAT
2:21:22PM THAT ENTAILS AS FAR AS COST ALLOCATION OF PARTNERING WITH
2:21:26PM OUR DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY AND SALARIES.
2:21:30PM COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH.
2:21:31PM I PLUGGED IN 45,000 THERE.
2:21:34PM AGAIN, NOT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THE RFP WOULD BE ADVERTISED
2:21:37PM FOR OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATIONS.
2:21:40PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE REQUIRED 30% OF THAT 13.4 MILLION,
2:21:47PM THE 4 MILLION YOU SEE THERE.
2:21:49PM CAPITAL PROJECTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE A LOT.
2:21:55PM A LOT OF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED BECAUSE OF THE
2:21:59PM ONGOING WORK FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE
2:22:01PM HAPPENING IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
2:22:03PM AND WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE STREETS THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON.
2:22:08PM I PUT IN FIVE MILLION FOR THE WHITING STREET PROJECT THAT
2:22:14PM WILL GET STARTED SOON.
2:22:16PM LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO HIGHLIGHT.
2:22:24PM WASHINGTON STREET PARK RENOVATION.
2:22:26PM AS YOU'RE AWARE, THAT IS GOING TO BE RENOVATED, WASHINGTON
2:22:29PM STREET PARK.
2:22:30PM AND THEN WE DID PURCHASE THE LAND AT 810 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
2:22:33PM FOR THAT TO BE DEVELOPED INTO A NEW URBAN PARK.
2:22:36PM I DIDN'T PUT IN COMMUNITY POLICING THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE DO
2:22:44PM HAVE FUNDING ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR SECURITY CAMERAS THAT THE
2:22:48PM CAC REQUESTED.
2:22:51PM MONIES ARE ALREADY SET ASIDE FOR THAT.
2:22:54PM NOTHING FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OR QUALITY OF LIFE DUE TO
2:23:01PM HAVING ROLLOVER FUNDS.
2:23:02PM HERE IS THE BIG BUDGET.
2:23:07PM 870 ACRES.
2:23:09PM THERE IS A CORE, NON-CORE, MONIES DISTRIBUTED EQUALLY,
2:23:14PM THOUGH, WITHIN THOSE TWO AREAS OF CORE AND NON-CORE.
2:23:16PM SUNSETS?
2:23:19PM 2043.
2:23:21PM WE REALIZE 29.9 IS ALMOST $30 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR '26 TO
2:23:25PM BE BUDGETED WITH THAT BEING AN 8% INCREASE OVER FISCAL YEAR
2:23:28PM 25.
2:23:29PM THERE AGAIN, OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATION COVERED FOR
2:23:37PM SALARIES, ET CETERA.
2:23:38PM AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ALMOST 9 MILLION OF THE $30
2:23:44PM MILLION.
2:23:50PM AND THEN CAPITAL, SEE IF THERE ARE HIGHLIGHTS I CAN GIVE
2:23:53PM YOU.
2:24:03PM INFRASTRUCTURE, CAPITAL, THAT'S GOING TO BE THINGS LIKE THE
2:24:13PM JUST NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
2:24:17PM AGAIN, GATEWAY AND WAY FINDING SIGNAGE.
2:24:26PM WE DO HAVE FUNDING IN THERE FOR THE AGREEMENT FOR SPP, THE
2:24:29PM MONEY PAID TOWARD REIMBURSEMENT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY IMPROVEMENTS
2:24:32PM FOR SPP WATER STREET DEVELOPMENT.
2:24:35PM PARKS ADA IMPROVEMENTS.
2:24:39PM MONIES ARE STILL SET ASIDE FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE ROADWAY
2:24:42PM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
2:24:43PM WHEN READY.
2:24:45PM OF COURSE, WE HAVE A LOT OF THE FUNDING AGREEMENTS THAT
2:24:52PM REQUIRE A MULTIYEAR CONTRIBUTION WITHIN EACH BUDGET.
2:24:56PM SO WE HAVE THAT PREPARED AND THE CASH FLOW OF HOW MUCH WE
2:25:00PM NEED TO SET ASIDE FOR EACH OF THE FUNDING AGREEMENTS THAT
2:25:02PM HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH THE STRAZ, TAMPA THEATRE, TAMPA
2:25:05PM MUSEUM OF ART, FOR EXAMPLE.
2:25:06PM THE DEBT SERVICE, 4.2 MILLION YOU SEE THERE IS TO REIMBURSE
2:25:17PM FOR THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON THE CONVENTION CENTER,
2:25:20PM THE IMPROVEMENTS DONE ON THE CONVENTION CENTER.
2:25:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:25:28PM GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE.
2:25:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S OKAY.
2:25:32PM I CAN TALK OFF OF IT.
2:25:34PM ARE YOU ALL ANTICIPATING IN YOUR BUDGET, SPECIFICALLY IN THE
2:25:37PM CHANNELSIDE, WHATEVER IS HAPPENING IN THE ADJACENT QUADRANTS
2:25:42PM FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THESE NEW PROJECTS COMING UP,
2:25:46PM LIKE THE EXPANSION OF WATER STREET, HOW CHANNELSIDE
2:25:49PM INTEGRATES AND CONNECTS WITH THAT, STREET IMPROVEMENTS, WITH
2:25:53PM THE PROJECTS, ARE YOU ANTICIPATING STREET PARK IMPROVEMENTS
2:25:56PM AND INTERCONNECTIVITY THERE IN THESE BUDGETS OR IN THESE
2:25:59PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS?
2:26:01PM >>COURTNEY ORR: YEAH, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE SET ASIDE
2:26:03PM CURRENTLY IN THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT IS THE CURRENT WORK
2:26:08PM BEING DONE BY KIMMINS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK.
2:26:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PROBABLY AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN THE
2:26:14PM DURATION, WE HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT AS WE MOVE
2:26:17PM ALONG, HOW THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GOING TO INTERCONNECT
2:26:20PM WITH EACH OTHER SO WE HAVE THAT IN THERE.
2:26:22PM IS THERE A REPORT -- I KNOW WHAT WE'RE SETTING ASIDE IS 30%.
2:26:29PM IS THERE A REPORT WHAT THE BUCKET LOOKS LIKE?
2:26:32PM THE 30% CASH ON HAND.
2:26:34PM HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE CASH ON HAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
2:26:36PM IN DOWNTOWN AND IN CHANNELSIDE AND YBOR, THOSE THREE CRAs?
2:26:43PM >>COURTNEY ORR: WE HAVE THAT.
2:26:44PM WHATEVER THE ROLLOVER AMOUNT.
2:26:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT FOR THE FUTURE.
2:26:48PM I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE DEBT SERVICE.
2:26:49PM YOU ANSWERED THAT.
2:26:50PM I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD.
2:26:54PM THANK YOU.
2:26:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:26:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BIG MONEY HERE.
2:27:01PM LIKE ALWAYS, IT'S VERY USEFUL TO HAVE IT, ESPECIALLY GOING
2:27:04PM TO USE IT THE RIGHT WAY.
2:27:07PM HAS ANYONE FROM ANY PARTS OF ANY SPORTS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH
2:27:12PM THE CRA OR THE ADMINISTRATION REGARDING ANY AMOUNT OF
2:27:15PM PROPERTIES OR MONIES THEY MAY WANT TO GET FROM THE CRA
2:27:18PM REGARDING SOME FUTURE, MAYBE -- STADIUM.
2:27:23PM >>COURTNEY ORR: I'LL LET DIRECTOR McCRAY TAKE THAT.
2:27:26PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:27:27PM NO, SIR.
2:27:27PM THE ANSWER IS NO.
2:27:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS THE
2:27:37PM ADMINISTRATION OR NOT, JUST FOR OUR KNOWLEDGE, LOGICALLY IN
2:27:43PM THE MIND OF ANYONE OPERATING ON THIS SIDE OF GOVERNMENT, IF
2:27:46PM SOME BIG SPACE WAS TO BE BOUGHT OR LEASED BETWEEN TWO
2:27:50PM ENTITIES, NOT US INVOLVED, IT IS THEIR PROPERTY, THEY CAN DO
2:27:53PM WHAT THEY WANT.
2:27:54PM SOMETHING IS BUILT ON IT, CONTINUE TO BE REVENUE FOR THE
2:27:58PM CITY IF IT IS A STADIUM OR BUILDING, HIGH-RISES,
2:28:01PM RESTAURANTS, HOTELS AND APARTMENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
2:28:05PM EVER DONE A STUDY ON THAT?
2:28:09PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: REPEAT THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME, MR.
2:28:11PM MIRANDA.
2:28:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I FORGOT THE QUESTION.
2:28:14PM IF THERE IS A CERTAIN PLOT OF LAND THAT DOESN'T CHANGE AND
2:28:17PM YOU BUILD SOMETHING BIG LIKE A STADIUM, WHAT REVENUE DOES
2:28:21PM THE CITY GET IN AD VALOREM TAXES OR ANY OTHER BENEFITS?
2:28:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
2:28:26PM SO RIGHT NOW, MOST OF THE STADIUMS ARE ON COUNTY PROPERTY,
2:28:32PM SO THEY ARE NON-TAXED.
2:28:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVEN'T COMPARED IT WITH ANYTHING THAT
2:28:38PM COULD GO THERE THAT WOULD BE TAXABLE, AM I CORRECT?
2:28:45PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IF IT'S NOT GOVERNMENT OWNED OR GOVERNMENT
2:28:49PM FACILITY IT WOULD PAY TAX.
2:28:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE DEVELOPER DEVELOPS IT FOR OTHER USES,
2:28:54PM CONDOMINIUMS, APARTMENTS, RESTAURANTS, WHATEVER, THEN THE
2:29:01PM CITY IS LOSING OTHER TAX REVENUES WOULD HAVE GOTTEN INSTEAD
2:29:03PM OF PAYING.
2:29:04PM THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER.
2:29:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
2:29:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I WANT TO KNOW, I DON'T KNOW
2:29:15PM WHAT THE VALUE WOULD BE LONG-TERM TO THE TAXPAYERS VERSUS
2:29:19PM SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A VALUE TO THE TAXPAYERS.
2:29:21PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS WOULD
2:29:23PM COME TO YOU.
2:29:25PM WE WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT THEM NOW SAYING, OH, THIS IS THE CRA
2:29:29PM AND THINK IT PROJECTS THIS AND THEN NOT.
2:29:32PM THAT WOULD COME IN A DIFFERENT THREAD.
2:29:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
2:29:39PM I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION OR RATHER A COMMENT FOR MY
2:29:45PM COLLEAGUE WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE JUST HAD
2:29:47PM TWO PEOPLE COMING TO US IN EAST TAMPA.
2:29:50PM AND IF YOU THINK EAST TAMPA IS EXPENSIVE, WAIT UNTIL THEY
2:29:53PM ARE BUILDING DOWNTOWN.
2:29:54PM SO I HAVE A FEELING THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING MONEY, WHEN THAT
2:29:58PM RFP COMES OUT, THEY WILL BE ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE AS WELL.
2:30:03PM SO I THINK THAT WE OWE IT -- I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT
2:30:06PM WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THAT HOW PILING THAT MONEY UP
2:30:13PM COULD BE BENEFICIAL.
2:30:14PM HE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
2:30:16PM I'M JUST SAYING, IT COULD BE SOMETHING AS THE RFP COMES
2:30:23PM FORWARD.
2:30:23PM AGAIN, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER ABOUT RFPs.
2:30:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM READY FOR THE CONVERSATION WHEN IT
2:30:29PM COMES.
2:30:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW YOU ARE.
2:30:31PM BUT I THINK TODAY IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY WE'RE
2:30:34PM STOCKPILING THAT MONEY FOR BETTER OR WORSE LANGUAGE.
2:30:38PM WE JUST FINISHED DOWNTOWN.
2:30:40PM WE HAD SOME GOOD QUESTIONS, INCLUDING STADIUM CONVERSATIONS.
2:30:43PM SO YOU MISSED THAT.
2:30:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: DAMN IT.
2:30:49PM THERE YOU GO.
2:30:50PM >>COURTNEY ORR: THAT WRAPS UP DOWNTOWN.
2:30:52PM HAND IT OVER TO DIRECTOR McCRAY FOR DREW PARK AND WE'LL
2:30:56PM CONTINUE ON.
2:30:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS TO LEAVE FOR A CITY
2:31:00PM APPOINTMENT.
2:31:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I DO.
2:31:02PM I'M VERY SORRY.
2:31:04PM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR LATER.
2:31:05PM SO THANK YOU.
2:31:14PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: IF I COULD HAVE THE PowerPoint BACK UP,
2:31:17PM PLEASE.
2:31:18PM DREW PARK, THERE WAS A 12% INCREASE IN THE TAX INCREMENT
2:31:29PM REVENUE THAT HAS COME FORWARD FOR FY '26.
2:31:34PM AND OPERATES IN ADMINISTRATION.
2:31:35PM WE HAVE ALLOCATION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES AND
2:31:38PM THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME MONIES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
2:31:43PM IMPROVEMENTS.
2:31:44PM MS. KEYS WAS HERE A MONTH OR SO AGO SPEAKING ON BEHALF FOR
2:31:49PM DREW PARK, AND THEY MADE A FEW REQUESTS AS CAC.
2:31:54PM SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE FORMALLY COMING INTO FRUITION
2:31:57PM RELATED TO A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING
2:31:59PM WITH PARKS AND RECREATION NOW TO COMPLETE THAT PROCESS.
2:32:04PM LOOKING AT HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETION OF THE DRAWINGS LATER
2:32:07PM THIS SUMMER.
2:32:08PM AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE INVITING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO
2:32:12PM A GROUND BREAKING AT SOME POINT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
2:32:16PM SHE ALSO EXPRESSED THE NEED FOR MOBILITY CONNECTIVITY AND
2:32:21PM SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
2:32:22PM THEY ALLOCATED FUNDING TO THAT -- THE UPGRADES AND PERMIT
2:32:26PM READY DESIGNS THAT ARE BEING COMPLETED AS WE SPEAK.
2:32:29PM LOOK FORWARD TO THE COMPLETION OF THAT IN 2026.
2:32:33PM THERE ALSO IS LANDSCAPING AND STREETSCAPE SAFETY AUDIT THAT
2:32:42PM WAS REQUESTED.
2:32:42PM WE ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR THAT AS IT RELATES TO DREW PARK.
2:32:48PM I WILL PAUSE WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
2:32:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?
2:32:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT PERCENTAGE OF THE TIF MONEY WAS SO
2:32:59PM BIG.
2:33:00PM WOULD YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR
2:33:02PM THE FACT THAT MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE NOT HOMESTEADED
2:33:06PM SO THE TAX BASE GROWS?
2:33:09PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IN DREW PARK IS A LOT
2:33:11PM LESS AS IT MAY BE IN EAST TAMPA OR OTHER AREAS, SO, YES.
2:33:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SURPRISED TO SEE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT GROWTH
2:33:17PM IN DREW PARK.
2:33:18PM THANK YOU.
2:33:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
2:33:19PM ANYONE ELSE?
2:33:19PM OKAY.
2:33:20PM THANK YOU, SIR.
2:33:21PM GO AHEAD.
2:33:22PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: I'LL MOVE ON TO EAST TAMPA.
2:33:24PM AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR, EAST TAMPA IS THE LARGEST CRA, NOT ONLY
2:33:30PM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, 7.5
2:33:34PM SQUARE MILES.
2:33:35PM THE INCREASE WAS AT 12% FOR FY '26 AND AS I KIND OF ALLUDED
2:33:42PM TO BEFORE LUNCH, THE EAST TAMPA CAC FELT COMPELLED TO
2:33:48PM INCREASE THE AMOUNT OR RECOMMENDED AMOUNT ABOVE AND BEYOND
2:33:52PM THE 30% FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES AND THOSE LINE
2:33:56PM ITEMS THAT ARE THERE.
2:33:59PM WE ALSO HAVE A FEW PROGRAMS AS WE'VE BEEN ASSEMBLING
2:34:04PM PROPERTIES IN EAST TAMPA, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS,
2:34:07PM DESTINATION CHURCH IN SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ARE EXACTLY
2:34:11PM 1202 EAST CURTIS STREET FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
2:34:17PM AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RFPs, THAT ONE IS CURRENTLY BEING
2:34:21PM DEVELOPED BY MS. PARKS AND HER TEAM.
2:34:23PM WE HAVE THE GATOR BUILDING SITE, WHICH WAS PURCHASED BACK IN
2:34:26PM 2019-2020.
2:34:27PM WE'RE LOOKING TO REDEVELOP THOSE PARCELS AS WELL.
2:34:33PM AS YOU MAY RECALL, A MONTH OR SO AGO, YOU APPROVED THE
2:34:40PM PURCHASE OF TWO OTHER SITES ADJACENT TO THAT LOCATION.
2:34:42PM WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE EAST TAMPA CAC
2:34:46PM RELATED TO THAT AND WILL FOLLOW UP LATER THIS FALL WITH MORE
2:34:51PM RENDERINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
2:34:54PM ANOTHER PRIORITY, AND WE PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET, I BELIEVE
2:34:57PM 1.5 WAS ALLOCATED.
2:34:59PM RELATED TO THE STORMWATER POND ON NORTH 22nd.
2:35:03PM AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR STORMWATER
2:35:05PM DEPARTMENT AND PARKS AND RECREATION AS IT RELATES TO DESIGN
2:35:08PM AND BUILD-OUT OF THAT LOCATION.
2:35:12PM ALSO, WE HAVE SOME ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CAC, AND
2:35:17PM WE'VE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO DO WAY-FINDING SIGNS IN EAST
2:35:20PM TAMPA.
2:35:23PM SO WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THE EAST TAMPA CAC
2:35:25PM RELATED TO THAT AS WELL, WITH THE OVERALL BUDGET CURRENTLY
2:35:30PM PROJECTED TO BE AT $14 MILLION FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
2:35:33PM I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:35:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:35:39PM OKAY.
2:35:40PM CONTINUE, SIR.
2:35:41PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THANK YOU.
2:35:42PM I WILL BRING UP TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT.
2:35:50PM >> TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT HAS A FAIRLY SMALL BUDGET TO
2:35:55PM WORK WITH BECAUSE WE DO PAY 74% BACK TO THE COMMUNITY
2:36:05PM DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WHERE WATER WORKS IS.
2:36:07PM WE DO HAVE A LESS AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BUDGET IN TAMPA HEIGHTS
2:36:10PM RIVERFRONT.
2:36:12PM THERE WAS A 6% INCREASE OVER FISCAL YEAR '25, BUT YOU CAN
2:36:17PM SEE THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE FAIRLY SMALL BECAUSE OF MAJORITY
2:36:20PM OF THAT MONEY, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 1.5 MILLION ON AN ANNUAL
2:36:25PM BASIS, THERE'S 1.6 MILLION IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND
2:36:28PM INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MONIES THAT WE PAY BACK TO
2:36:33PM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
2:36:35PM THAT ONE IS SHORT AND SWEET.
2:36:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUT, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE
2:36:41PM LAST SLIDES, THAT DUE TO THE FACT OF PAYING THAT 74% TO THE
2:36:48PM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, WE CAN ONLY AFFORD TO PUT IN
2:36:52PM APPROXIMATELY 15% OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
2:36:55PM SO IT'S HARD FOR US TO ACHIEVE THE REQUIRED 30% IN ORDER TO
2:37:01PM DO OTHER IMPORTANT PROJECTS TO THE COMMUNITY.
2:37:03PM THAT CONCLUDES TAMPA HEIGHTS.
2:37:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS ON TAMPA HEIGHTS?
2:37:12PM SEEING NONE, WE'LL CONTINUE.
2:37:17PM >>BRENDA THROWER: I'M THE CLOSER.
2:37:18PM BRENDA THROWER, CRA MANAGER FOR WEST TAMPA AND YBOR CITY.
2:37:23PM I WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW MR. ROBINSON TODAY, SO YOU WOULD
2:37:27PM HAVE HEARD THIS WHOLE STORY BEFOREHAND.
2:37:28PM BUT HE WILL BE WITH US NEXT MONTH.
2:37:30PM TALKING ABOUT WEST TAMPA, THIS IS OUR SECOND LARGEST CRA AND
2:37:35PM THE YOUNGEST, ESTABLISHED IN 2015, AND THEN EXPIRING, OF
2:37:39PM COURSE, IN 2043.
2:37:43PM FROM INCREMENT STANDPOINT, JUST SHY OF $10 MILLION.
2:37:46PM A NICE SOLID 10% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
2:37:49PM MOVING INTO THE BUDGET, HERE WE HAVE HOW THE BUDGET IS LAID
2:37:56PM OUT.
2:37:56PM O AND A, THAT IS OUR COST SHARE FOR WEST TAMPA AT 697.
2:38:02PM WHEN IT COMES TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WE DO HAVE MONEY IN
2:38:06PM THAT LINE ITEM ALREADY, SO WE DIDN'T ALLOCATE ANY MORE, AND
2:38:11PM WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE CRP THIS YEAR.
2:38:13PM SO WE ALREADY SECURED THAT FUNDING UNDER THAT LINE ITEM.
2:38:17PM SO THAT ONE NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS NEEDED THERE.
2:38:21PM FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH, WE ALREADY HAD MONEY SAVED
2:38:26PM UP IN THAT ITEM AS WELL.
2:38:27PM COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH, SO NO
2:38:32PM ADDITIONAL MONEY WAS NEEDED THERE.
2:38:34PM FOR REDEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT, WEST TAMPA HAS BEEN DOING
2:38:37PM REALLY WELL.
2:38:38PM THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY PARTICIPATING IN THE GRANT PROGRAMS
2:38:40PM THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, THE COMMERCIAL GRANT PROGRAMS.
2:38:43PM SO THE ONLY ITEM THAT REALLY WASN'T THAT FUNDED WAS
2:38:47PM PREDEVELOPMENT GRANTS.
2:38:48PM SO WE ADDED THE MONEY FOR 390,000 INTO THAT LINE ITEM.
2:38:53PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT'S OUR 30% RIGHT THERE.
2:38:57PM AGAIN, WEST TAMPA HAS BEEN CHIPPING AWAY AT AFFORDABLE
2:39:00PM HOUSING AND ALSO FROM STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS.
2:39:03PM SO WE JUST PURCHASED THE CYPRESS STREET PROPERTIES LAST
2:39:09PM MONTH, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE
2:39:12PM STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS.
2:39:13PM MOVING INTO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, VERY ACTIVE CIP
2:39:20PM PROGRAM GOING ON IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
2:39:22PM WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REALLY WORKING ON ALMOST FIVE PARKS
2:39:27PM IN WEST TAMPA, INCLUDING SALCINES, REY PARK, FREEDOM PARK,
2:39:33PM AND THEN THE FREMONT LINEAR PARK OPENING UP THOSE CROSS
2:39:37PM STREETS AND MONEY SET ASIDE FOR MLK.
2:39:40PM SO THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH PARKS, AS WELL AS
2:39:43PM MOBILITY.
2:39:43PM THE QUICK BUILD ALONG MAIN STREET WAS COMPLETED, SO WE HAVE
2:39:47PM MONEY THERE TO ALSO KEEP WORKING ALONG WITH PROJECTS ALONG
2:39:50PM MAIN STREET.
2:39:52PM WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY, THIS IS YEAR
2:39:57PM TWO OF THE WEST RIVERWALK, TAMPA MULTIMODAL NETWORK PROJECT.
2:40:04PM $10 MILLION PROJECT OVER 3 YEARS.
2:40:07PM WE'RE IN YEAR 2.
2:40:08PM THAT'S WHAT THAT FUNDING REPRESENTS RIGHT THERE, THAT
2:40:11PM ALLOCATION OF 2.3.
2:40:13PM AND THEN COMMUNITY POLICING, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN
2:40:17PM THAT -- WE DIDN'T ALLOCATE ANY THIS YEAR, BUT WE DO HAVE
2:40:20PM ABOUT $300,000 SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT TO DO COMMUNITY
2:40:24PM POLICING INITIATIVES IN THE DISTRICT.
2:40:26PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THERE IS A ZERO THERE, BUT WE
2:40:30PM ACTUALLY ENCUMBERED MONEY FROM LAST YEAR FOR A CULTURAL
2:40:34PM RESOURCE STUDY TO UPDATE THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES WITHIN THE
2:40:38PM CRA OF YBOR -- OF WEST TAMPA.
2:40:40PM SO THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON.
2:40:42PM AND THEN QUALITY OF LIFE, THIS IS EVERYTHING FOR DISTRICT
2:40:46PM IMPROVEMENTS.
2:40:46PM THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW PROJECTS
2:40:49PM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WELL AS WE HAVE A MAIN STREET CLEAN
2:40:53PM TEAM AND ALLEYWAY CLEARING PROGRAM GOING ON.
2:40:57PM THAT SUMS UP $9.6 MILLION FOR WEST TAMPA.
2:41:03PM ANY QUESTIONS?
2:41:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:41:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST.
2:41:09PM YOU ALL SEEM TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LITTLE AND SPREAD IT AND
2:41:13PM GO A LONG WAY IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN WEST TAMPA.
2:41:17PM OBVIOUSLY, IT IS ONE OF THE MORE EXCITING AREAS OF TAMPA AS
2:41:20PM FAR AS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
2:41:20PM YOU TALK ABOUT A MIX COMMUNITY OF MIXED INCOMES AND FOLKS.
2:41:25PM A LOT OF EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES HERE.
2:41:27PM IT'S A SHAME, AND I'LL HIT ON THIS, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL HAVE
2:41:32PM HEARD ME WHINE ABOUT IT BEFORE.
2:41:35PM THAT 30% SET ASIDE IN OUR AREA, THE DIRT IS JUST SO
2:41:39PM EXPENSIVE, IT IS NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR US TO DO.
2:41:42PM IT IS A SHAME WE CAN'T USE THAT MONEY IN THE CRAs FOR
2:41:45PM MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND USE GENERAL FUND MONEY IN
2:41:47PM PLACES LIKE THIS.
2:41:48PM LIKE MAIN STREET IN WEST TAMPA, IT COULD BE MIXED INCOME.
2:41:54PM ALL KINDS OF EXCITING THINGS WE CAN DO IN THAT AREA.
2:41:57PM EAST TAMPA, SAME KIND OF THING.
2:41:59PM ALL KINDS OF GREAT THINGS WE CAN DO AND PROVIDE HOUSING.
2:42:02PM BOTH OF THE AREAS ARE BASICALLY DOWNTOWN.
2:42:04PM FOR LARGE METROPOLITAN CITIES, THEY ARE DOWNTOWN.
2:42:07PM THEY ARE JUST ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF DOWNTOWN.
2:42:09PM THEY ARE THE PROXIMITY TO URBAN CORE AND FOR WORKFORCE, IT'S
2:42:13PM SO CLOSE AND WE CAN PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION BACK AND FORTH,
2:42:16PM LIKE WITH ROUTE ONE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, DO SOMETHING SIMILAR
2:42:20PM INTO WEST TAMPA TO GET TO THE WORKFORCE AREAS.
2:42:24PM I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE US REVISIT THOSE NUMBERS SO WE
2:42:29PM GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK, THE BIGGEST RETURN ON THE
2:42:32PM INVESTMENT FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, IF WE
2:42:35PM COULD DO SOME KIND OF SHUFFLING TO TAKE SOME GENERAL FUND
2:42:39PM MONEY FROM THESE AREAS THAT MAYBE WE'RE SPENDING, SPEND IN
2:42:42PM WEST TAMPA, SPEND IN EAST TAMPA, GET THE BETTER PROJECTS
2:42:47PM GOING FOR SMALLER AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND USE THAT MONEY IN
2:42:51PM THOSE EXPENSIVE AREAS TO DO THOSE MOBILITY PROJECTS AND ALL
2:42:53PM THOSE THINGS THAT COST A LOT OF MONEY.
2:42:56PM I LOVE THE FACT THAT, BY THE WAY, THE TAMPA MULTIMODAL,
2:43:05PM PLEASE, LET'S START TALKING.
2:43:09PM JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THAT IS ON THE RIVER.
2:43:11PM THIS IS A MOBILITY PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP
2:43:14PM CONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS, MOVE PEOPLE THROUGH, BUILD SIDEWALKS
2:43:20PM AND BIKE WALKS FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.
2:43:24PM I THINK FROM THE BEGINNING IT WAS A MISTAKE TO LABEL IT AS A
2:43:26PM RIVERWALK BECAUSE IT IS A SMALL PORTION OF IT.
2:43:30PM SO MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT.
2:43:31PM I LOVE THAT WE CONTINUE TO REFER TO IT AS THAT.
2:43:34PM OTHER THAN THAT, KUDOS.
2:43:35PM I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD BUDGET IN WEST TAMPA.
2:43:40PM SPREAD THE MONEY IN APPROPRIATE WAYS.
2:43:42PM THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR PEOPLE TO IMPROVE
2:43:46PM THEIR HOMES.
2:43:47PM WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF SENIOR CITIZENS LIVING IN THAT AREA.
2:43:50PM WE CAN DO SOME GRANTS AND HELP PEOPLE OUT.
2:43:52PM I LOVE IT.
2:43:53PM THANK YOU.
2:43:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:43:55PM ANYONE ELSE?
2:43:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE HAS BEEN SOME DEVELOPMENT STARTED
2:43:59PM JUST OFF OF HOWARD ON MAIN STREET.
2:44:03PM REALLY, REALLY LOOKING NICE.
2:44:05PM I'M SURE YOU'LL SEE -- FROM BOTH SIDES CONTINUE THAT.
2:44:09PM REALLY LOOKING NICE.
2:44:10PM THE APARTMENTS ARE GETTING FILLED UP IN THAT AREA.
2:44:14PM LOOKING REALLY, REALLY NICE.
2:44:17PM THANK YOU ALL.
2:44:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE GATOR BUILDING PROPERTY AND THE THINGS
2:44:22PM DOING THERE, YOU KNOW I'M EXCITED ABOUT ALL THAT.
2:44:24PM LET'S DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT AND CONTINUING MOVING FORWARD ON
2:44:27PM THOSE PROJECTS.
2:44:28PM I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, TOO.
2:44:30PM WE NEED TO BRING THE SERVICES AND HOUSING TO THESE AREAS AND
2:44:34PM CREATE LITTLE DOWNTOWN DISTRICTS.
2:44:35PM LET'S TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
2:44:40PM >>BRENDA THROWER: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
2:44:41PM LAST ONE.
2:44:42PM WE ARE ENDING WITH YBOR.
2:44:46PM YBOR, THE Y ALWAYS PUTS US AT THE END HERE.
2:44:54PM ONE OF THE OLDEST CRAs RIGHT BEHIND -- LET ME BACK UP ONE
2:45:01PM -- 1987 THIS WAS ESTABLISHED, EXPIRING LAST TEN YEARS OF
2:45:07PM YBOR CITY.
2:45:07PM THIS IS YBOR ONE.
2:45:08PM AND IN TERMS OF TAX INCREMENT, IT'S $4 MILLION.
2:45:12PM IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S MONEY.
2:45:17PM WE JUST MADE IT OVER THE $4 MILLION MARK.
2:45:19PM WE'VE BEEN HOLDING AT 3.9 A LONG TIME.
2:45:22PM IT IS A STEADY 10% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
2:45:25PM IN TERMS OF PROJECTS GOING ON IN YBOR, AGAIN, WE START OFF
2:45:29PM WITH O AND A.
2:45:30PM THAT IS OUR COST SHARE.
2:45:32PM PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THE CRP
2:45:36PM UPDATE FOR YBOR, TOO.
2:45:37PM EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TEN YEARS LEFT, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING
2:45:40PM TO CONSOLIDATE ALL THE PLANS OF THE PAST AND REALLY UPDATE
2:45:45PM THE CRP.
2:45:46PM COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH, YOU SEE THIS AS A LESSER ITEM.
2:45:49PM LAST YEAR PROBABLY SAW AROUND HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
2:45:52PM WE HAVE LESS BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING INTO THIS SHARED CONTRACT
2:45:55PM TO DO TAMPA CRA WITH AN OUTSIDE FIRM.
2:45:58PM SO WE'RE ALL KIND OF COST SHARING IN THAT.
2:46:01PM SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS.
2:46:03PM MOVING INTO REDEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT, THAT'S GRANTS.
2:46:07PM YBOR HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE COMMERCIAL GRANT PROGRAM.
2:46:10PM RIGHT HERE WE ADDED 30,000 JUST TOWARD THE PREDEVELOPMENT
2:46:14PM LINE ITEM SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT.
2:46:18PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE HAVE 30%.
2:46:20PM IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, 3.3 MILLION FROM LAST YEAR.
2:46:25PM YOU ADD THIS ON, SO WE'RE A LITTLE OVER, WHAT, FOUR, ALMOST
2:46:28PM FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
2:46:29PM WE'RE LOOKING FOR STRATEGIC OPPORTUNITIES TO BUY PROPERTY
2:46:34PM BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY FROM THE PROGRAMS,
2:46:37PM JUST MAINLY BECAUSE IT'S A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, YBOR ONE.
2:46:42PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS, YOU ALL KNOW THE BIG ONE.
2:46:45PM IT IS THE YBOR CITY BRICK PROGRAM.
2:46:47PM WE'LL DO THE NEXT TWO BLOCKS.
2:46:49PM WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO BANK MONEY FROM LAST YEAR.
2:46:51PM THE NEXT TWO BLOCKS WE WILL BE MOVING EAST SO IT WILL BE
2:46:55PM BETWEEN 17th AND 19th STREET.
2:46:57PM HAD TO DO SOME DESIGN WORK.
2:46:59PM THE INTERSECTIONS NEEDED SOME DESIGN.
2:47:01PM SO THAT WILL BE NEXT PROJECT THAT -- PRIORITY PROJECT THAT
2:47:05PM WE'RE WORKING ON, ALONG WITH CENTENNIAL PARK.
2:47:08PM THESE ARE THINGS THAT WILL BE PUT INTO THE CRP.
2:47:10PM AS WELL AS SOME SIGNAGE UPGRADES.
2:47:13PM THOSE ARE KIND OF MAIN THINGS IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
2:47:16PM PROJECTS.
2:47:17PM TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY, THAT NUMBER IS THE STREETCAR
2:47:19PM ALLOCATION.
2:47:19PM EVERY YEAR WE HAVE SET ASIDE, REALLY $225,000 FOR YBOR CITY,
2:47:26PM BUT WE GIVE -- WE SPLIT IT UP BETWEEN YBOR ONE AND TWO, THE
2:47:31PM 188,000 IS DEDICATED TO THE STREETCAR.
2:47:35PM COMMUNITY POLICING, 20,000.
2:47:37PM WE DO SUPPORT THE YBOR INNOVATIVE SQUAD AND YBOR TASK FORCE,
2:47:41PM ROUGHLY AROUND $250,000 A YEAR.
2:47:43PM WE ALREADY HAVE MONEY IN THAT ACCOUNT.
2:47:46PM THERE WAS NO NEED TO PUT ADDITIONAL MONEY.
2:47:47PM SO WE'RE ADDING ABOUT 20,000 MORE TO TRUE THAT UP.
2:47:53PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A SPECIFIC
2:47:56PM PROJECT FOR THAT.
2:47:57PM EVERY GRANT WE DO IN YBOR CITY, BECAUSE IT'S AN OLD
2:48:00PM DISTRICT, COMMERCIAL GRANT IS GOING TO GO TO AN HISTORIC
2:48:03PM BUILDING.
2:48:03PM WE DON'T REALLY SEPARATE IT OUT THAT WAY.
2:48:05PM WE DO HAVE THAT LINE ITEM BECAUSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL
2:48:07PM THE OTHER BUDGETS.
2:48:08PM FINALLY, QUALITY OF LIFE AND COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT, YBOR
2:48:12PM CITY IS VERY PROGRAM HEAVY IN TERMS OF YBOR CITY YES TEAM,
2:48:16PM THE CLEAN TEAM, THE INTENSIVE PRESSURE WASHING TEAM.
2:48:19PM I GET COMPLIMENTS ALL THE TIME HOW CLEAN YBOR CITY IS AND
2:48:22PM IT'S VERY REWARDING.
2:48:24PM WE DO KEEP IT CLEAN AND SAFE AND OUR YES TEAM WORKS VERY
2:48:30PM CLOSE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT AND
2:48:33PM ALL THOSE AGENCIES.
2:48:33PM SO THAT PRETTY MUCH WRAPS UP YBOR ONE.
2:48:36PM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
2:48:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:48:38PM NONE.
2:48:41PM GO AHEAD.
2:48:41PM >>BRENDA THROWER: LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YBOR 2, SURROUNDING
2:48:45PM AREA OF YBOR 1.
2:48:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M GOING TO TURN OFF YOUR TIMER.
2:48:48PM YOU'RE FINE.
2:48:51PM >>BRENDA THROWER: I'LL GO QUICK.
2:48:55PM YBOR 2, SURROUNDING AREA THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2004 IS
2:48:59PM ACTIVELY GROWING.
2:49:01PM WE HAD 11% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
2:49:05PM STILL AROUND $2 MILLION, $2.1 MILLION.
2:49:09PM IN TIF REVENUE FOR NEXT YEAR.
2:49:13PM THINGS THAT WE'LL BE GETTING INVOLVED WITH HERE, AGAIN, WE
2:49:16PM HAVE OUR O AND A LINE ITEM COST SHARE, PROFESSIONAL
2:49:19PM SERVICES.
2:49:20PM THAT IS A CONTRIBUTION THAT YBOR 2 WILL BE PUTTING TOWARDS
2:49:24PM THE NEW RFP WORKING FOR TAMPA CRA, THE COMMUNICATIONS
2:49:27PM CONTRACT, I'M SORRY.
2:49:31PM THE 50,000 IS FOR THE CRP.
2:49:33PM THAT'S THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN UPDATE.
2:49:36PM WE WILL BE ENGAGING JUST ONE FIRM FOR YBOR ONE AND TWO.
2:49:40PM AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE END UP WITH TWO PLANS.
2:49:42PM WE HAVE TO BY STATE STATUTE.
2:49:45PM THAT'S HOW WE'RE APPROACHING THAT.
2:49:47PM THAT WOULD BE THEIR CONTRIBUTION.
2:49:48PM THEN THE COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH, WE HAVE 20,000 SET
2:49:51PM ASIDE THERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
2:49:53PM CONTRACT.
2:49:54PM REDEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT, WE PUT $63,544 TOWARDS THE
2:50:00PM PREDEVELOPMENT GRANTS.
2:50:02PM WE HAD SOME HEALTHY BALANCES IN ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL
2:50:05PM STANDARD GRANTS AND SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT WERE GOOD THERE.
2:50:08PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS 30%.
2:50:11PM THAT'S OUR ALLOCATION.
2:50:13PM AND IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THAT, WE
2:50:15PM HAVE IN THE ROLLOVER ABOUT $1.5 MILLION FOR YBOR 2.
2:50:22PM THAT, WE DO HAVE SOME STRONG LEADS ON SOME PROPERTY THAT WE
2:50:27PM MAY BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE.
2:50:28PM IF SO, WE'LL BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU AFTER IT GOES THROUGH
2:50:31PM THE CAC.
2:50:31PM SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS.
2:50:39PM CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S THE BRICKING.
2:50:41PM FOUR BLOCKS IN YBOR 2 EAST OF 22nd STREET.
2:50:44PM WE'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF BANKING MONEY TO COMPLETE THOSE
2:50:48PM BLOCKS WHEN WE START MOVING DOWN THE AVENUE AND WE GET
2:50:50PM THERE.
2:50:51PM WE HAVE ABOUT 400,000 IN THE ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW.
2:50:55PM ALSO DOING DISTRICT SIGNAGE UPGRADES UP NEAR THE GERMAN
2:50:58PM AMERICAN CLUB IN THAT LITTLE POCKET.
2:51:01PM TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY, THAT IS THE STREETCAR.
2:51:03PM THAT'S THE $37,000 THAT WE PUT -- CONTRIBUTE TO THE
2:51:07PM STREETCAR EACH YEAR.
2:51:09PM THAT IS THEIR ALLOCATION.
2:51:10PM AND THEN COMMUNITY POLICING, WE DID ADD $10,000 HERE.
2:51:15PM THERE WAS A LOT OF ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY,
2:51:19PM PATROLLING OF THE YBOR PARKING LOTS, AND THEY ARE SOUTH OF
2:51:23PM 7th AVENUE AND ACTUALLY IN YBOR 2.
2:51:25PM WE PUT A LITTLE MONEY THERE TO HELP OUT WITH THAT -- THOSE
2:51:32PM EXTRA SERVICES.
2:51:32PM AGAIN, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
2:51:36PM SPECIFIC IN THAT LINE ITEM, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE DO IN
2:51:38PM YBOR, SEEMS LIKE IT IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
2:51:41PM QUALITY OF LIFE, THERE ARE YES TEAM SERVICES IN THE
2:51:43PM SURROUNDING AREA, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:51:44PM THEY MAINLY HANDLE LANDSCAPING, STREETSCAPE.
2:51:50PM ONE OF THE THINGS THE COMMUNITY WANTED WAS SOME SIDEWALKS.
2:51:52PM SO WE HAVE A LINE ITEM UNDER QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE COULD
2:51:56PM ACTUALLY ENGAGE AND DO INFILL OF SIDEWALKS AND SO FORTH.
2:51:59PM THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP YBOR 2.
2:52:01PM ANY QUESTIONS?
2:52:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS.
2:52:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KUDOS ON THE CLEAN TEAM, FOR ALL THE
2:52:06PM CRAs THAT HAVE THEM.
2:52:07PM IT REALLY DOES MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
2:52:11PM TAMPA LOOKS GOOD AND A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE CLEAN
2:52:15PM TEAMS.
2:52:16PM I FORGOT TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT CENTRAL PARK.
2:52:19PM IS THERE A PLAN OR A BUDGET FOR THE BAND SHELL IN PERRY
2:52:24PM HARVEY PARK?
2:52:32PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES.
2:52:33PM WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PARKS AND
2:52:36PM RECREATION.
2:52:38PM I DID HAVE SOME PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FORMER
2:52:40PM DIRECTOR PRIOR TO HIM TRANSITIONING FROM THE CITY.
2:52:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WE CAN SET ASIDE CRA MONEY AS WE
2:52:46PM START BUDGETING.
2:52:47PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE'RE LOOKING TO WORK WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT
2:52:49PM WE CAN DO TO BRING THAT TO FRUITION.
2:52:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS BUDGET SET ASIDE
2:52:57PM THAT WOULD HELP FUND THAT ALONG FOR MULTIYEAR FUNDING?
2:53:02PM >> NOT AT THIS POINT.
2:53:04PM BUT WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDING THAT COULD BE REALLOCATED
2:53:08PM TOWARD THAT EFFORT.
2:53:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
2:53:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE ON THIS?
2:53:11PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, FOR MENTIONING IT.
2:53:13PM I KNOW BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO HAD ALSO MOTIONED FOR THAT
2:53:16PM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FOR THE FOLKS WHO DON'T KNOW, THE BIG
2:53:20PM ISSUE THERE IS FOR THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON AND
2:53:24PM I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN TALKS ABOUT NAMING IT AND ALL THAT.
2:53:30PM I KNOW WE WANT TO HONOR HER MEMORY AND LEGACY.
2:53:34PM I HAVE A DUMB QUESTION.
2:53:39PM THIS FACILITY THAT BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN WAS JUST TALKING
2:53:41PM ABOUT, YOU KNOW WHAT, SO DUMB, I WAS GOING TO SAY HOW LONG
2:53:47PM DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE BUT HOW WOULD YOU KNOW.
2:53:50PM DISREGARD.
2:53:51PM GREAT.
2:53:51PM I'LL WITHDRAW THAT.
2:53:52PM ANYTHING FURTHER?
2:53:55PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE HAVE ONE MORE COMPONENT OF THE BUDGET.
2:53:56PM HOUSING COMPONENT.
2:53:57PM MS. PARKS WILL SPEAK TO THAT.
2:54:08PM >>BELIX PARKS: GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS.
2:54:09PM AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE 30% ALLOCATION FOR 2026 GOES AS
2:54:13PM FOLLOWS: FOR CENTRAL PARK, WE HAVE $604,000.
2:54:19PM FOR CHANNEL CRA ROUGHLY AROUND 4 MILLION.
2:54:24PM FOR DOWNTOWN, WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 8.9 MILLION.
2:54:28PM DREW PARK, WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 1 MILLION.
2:54:31PM YOU SEE HERE FOR EAST TAMPA, ABOUT 4.3 MILLION.
2:54:35PM AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY BY COURTNEY ABOUT TAMPA HEIGHTS,
2:54:41PM THIS IS ABOUT 15% SET ASIDE, SO WE'RE AT 335,000.
2:54:47PM WEST TAMPA CRA, WE'RE ABOUT 2.9 MILLION.
2:54:52PM AND THEN YBOR CRA COMBINED ABOUT 1.9 MILLION.
2:54:57PM A TOTAL OF $26 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
2:55:03PM THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THE SPECIFICS.
2:55:09PM AS YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES,
2:55:12PM WHICH AS YOU KNOW THAT'S ALL FIVE OF THEM.
2:55:24PM THE CAC MENTIONED INCREASING THEIR ALLOCATION TO ABOUT 26
2:55:31PM PERCENT.
2:55:32PM 6.7 MILLION.
2:55:34PM TAMPA HEIGHTS, $335,000.
2:55:38PM WE JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC AGAIN, DUE TO OUR
2:55:42PM CONTRIBUTION TO THE CDD, WE CAN ONLY SET ASIDE ABOUT 15% FOR
2:55:46PM THAT DISTRICT.
2:55:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?
2:55:52PM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:55:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T SUPPORT MAKING IT A REQUIREMENT
2:55:57PM ALLOCATION.
2:55:58PM I DON'T SUPPORT THE 30% REQUIREMENT.
2:55:59PM I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A BUDGETARY ITEM AND FLEXIBLE WITH
2:56:03PM THE ACTUAL NEEDS AND THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OF BUDGETING.
2:56:07PM WHILE I DO SUPPORT ALLOCATING 46% IN THE BUDGET, I DON'T
2:56:12PM THINK IT NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE A REQUIREMENT.
2:56:15PM EACH BOARD MEMBER NEEDS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BASED ON
2:56:18PM HOW THE BUDGETS ARE PRESENTED.
2:56:19PM IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THE TAMPA HEIGHTS EXAMPLE IS A
2:56:24PM CLASSIC EXAMPLE WHY AN ARBITRARY NUMBER LIKE 30% JUST
2:56:27PM DOESN'T WORK.
2:56:30PM WE PUT A REQUIREMENT ON A CRA THAT IS FISCALLY IMPOSSIBLE
2:56:34PM FOR THEM TO MEET.
2:56:35PM AGAIN, I GET THAT MY GOOD FRIEND MR. DINGFELDER AND A COUPLE
2:56:44PM OTHER COUNCILPERSONS THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA AT THE
2:56:47PM TIME, AS IT MATURED AND MOVED ON, WE PROBABLY SHOULD REVISIT
2:56:51PM THIS AT SOME POINT.
2:56:53PM TWO GREAT EXAMPLES.
2:56:55PM WANT TO PUT MORE MONEY IN EAST TAMPA.
2:56:56PM TAMPA HEIGHTS DOESN'T WORK, AND WE'RE KIND OF BOXING IN
2:56:59PM MONEY THAT COULD BE HIGHER AND BETTER USE AND OTHERS THAT
2:57:04PM MAYBE WE COULD, AGAIN, SWAP OUT FOR GENERAL FUND MONEY AND
2:57:07PM MOVE SOME MONEY BACK INTO THESE AREAS WHERE WE CAN AFFORD
2:57:10PM IT, WEST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, CAN AFFORD TO BUILD MUCH MORE
2:57:13PM FOR MUCH LESS.
2:57:14PM THAT'S MY THING.
2:57:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR, ANYONE ELSE?
2:57:18PM >>BELIX PARKS: THANK YOU.
2:57:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING FURTHER, SIR?
2:57:21PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: NO, SIR.
2:57:22PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION RELATED TO THE FY '26
2:57:25PM BUDGET.
2:57:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
2:57:28PM THANK YOU, SIR.
2:57:31PM WE APPRECIATE YOU AND ALL YOUR WONDERFUL STAFF.
2:57:32PM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, FOLKS, THAT'S THE END OF THIS
2:57:35PM AGENDA.
2:57:36PM NOW IT'S TIME FOR MOTIONS AND EVERYTHING.
2:57:38PM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:57:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS.
2:57:44PM ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY GOT THIS E-MAIL, IT WAS JUST
2:57:48PM ADDRESSED TO ME.
2:57:49PM THERE IS GOING TO BE A CONTROLLED BURN TOMORROW OFF OF BRUCE
2:57:52PM B. DOWNS WHICH WILL DEFINITELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC IF THE WIND
2:57:56PM IS BLOWING.
2:57:57PM CONTROLLED BURN SOUTH OF BRUCE B. DOWNS IN THAT BIG SWAMPY
2:58:01PM WOODED AREA.
2:58:02PM ALSO GOOD NEWS, I PUT IT ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE, I HAD A
2:58:09PM MEETING WITH THE MAYOR YESTERDAY.
2:58:10PM THE MAYOR HAS AGREED TO RESTORE THE FULL BUDGET FROM FY '24
2:58:14PM MONEY FOR PAVING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:58:15PM SO THAT WILL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL REQUEST THAT WE HAD.
2:58:19PM SO MOVING FORWARD.
2:58:20PM I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT AND APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S
2:58:24PM CONSIDERATION AND THE ADMINISTRATION WORKING WITH US TO MAKE
2:58:26PM THAT HAPPEN.
2:58:26PM THANK YOU.
2:58:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
2:58:30PM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO?
2:58:30PM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA?
2:58:32PM I HAVE A FEW.
2:58:33PM I DON'T KNOW WHO I GIVE THIS TO.
2:58:35PM I GUESS TO YOU.
2:58:36PM I HAVE A COUPLE FROM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
2:58:39PM A MOTION TO COUNCIL TO CANCEL THE OCTOBER 16 CRA MEETING AS
2:58:44PM IT IS THE WEEK OF THE FRA CONFERENCE.
2:58:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND
2:58:52PM FROM CLENDENIN.
2:58:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:58:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
2:58:55PM THEN A MOTION TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL CALL CRA MEETING TO
2:58:59PM ADDRESS THE CRA HOUSING MATRIX.
2:59:01PM I GUESS WE CAN COME UP WITH DATES.
2:59:05PM I WOULD ASSUME, KELLY, THIS IS A REQUEST TO GET WITH STAFF
2:59:09PM ON POTENTIAL DATES, CORRECT?
2:59:13PM >> YES.
2:59:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
2:59:15PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:59:17PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:59:17PM ANYTHING ELSE?
2:59:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE LAST ONE IS, THIS ONE IS MINE --
2:59:23PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: I WANTED TO SAY, WE WERE ASKING FOR -- THE
2:59:26PM REQUEST WAS MADE FOR THE WORKSHOP RELATED TO THE HOUSING.
2:59:31PM PROBABLY DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
2:59:35PM WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS.
2:59:37PM AND LOOKING AT POTENTIAL DATES AND WE WILL REACH OUT TO YOUR
2:59:41PM RESPECTIVE STAFF MOVING FORWARD.
2:59:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY NEXT MOTION, SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TOYING
2:59:46PM AROUND WITH, I WANTED TO, FRANKLY, WAIT UNTIL AFTER SESSION
2:59:49PM TO PROPOSE THIS.
2:59:51PM YOU LOOK AT A LOT -- OUR CRAs ARE VERY DIVERSE AND VERY
2:59:55PM DIFFERENT.
2:59:55PM OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE EAST TAMPA, YBOR CITY, WEST TAMPA, AND
2:59:59PM ONES LIKE DOWNTOWN.
3:00:00PM AND CHANNELSIDE, BUT THEY ALL DEAL WITH BLIGHT, WHICH --
3:00:05PM ALLEGEDLY -- WHICH ALL COMES DOWN TO AN ISSUE, FRANKLY OF
3:00:09PM EQUITY AND JUSTICE.
3:00:09PM THAT'S WHAT CRAs ARE MEANT FOR IN MANY, MANY WAYS.
3:00:13PM I WANT TO PROPOSE THAT STAFF COME BACK WITH A REPORT ON THE
3:00:17PM FEASIBILITY OF HAVING WHAT I WOULD CALL AN EQUITY SEAT ON
3:00:23PM EACH ONE OF OUR CRAs.
3:00:24PM WE CAN DEFINE WHAT THAT IS.
3:00:26PM AGAIN, WE CAN WORK ON THE SPECIFICS OF IT.
3:00:28PM IT COULD BE A CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION.
3:00:30PM IT COULD AN EQUITY ORGANIZATION AND SO FORTH.
3:00:33PM BUT I REALLY, REALLY THINK THAT EVERY CRA, ONE OF OUR CRAs
3:00:38PM SHOULD HAVE A SEAT THAT IS DESIGNATED TO AN ORGANIZATION.
3:00:41PM AGAIN, WE CAN BETTER DEFINE THIS THAT PROMOTES EQUITY AND
3:00:45PM JUSTICE HERE IN TAMPA.
3:00:47PM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
3:00:49PM CRAs ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR.
3:00:51PM AGAIN, WE CAN FULLY DISCUSS IT AND HAVE IT COME BACK IN
3:00:55PM NOVEMBER OR WHATEVER.
3:00:57PM I DON'T KNOW IF CRA MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
3:01:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO WE HAVE ANY --
3:01:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK SO.
3:01:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M NOT SURE.
3:01:16PM BECAUSE THE EXAMPLE IN TAMPA FITS WITH THE MODEL YOU JUST
3:01:19PM DESCRIBED.
3:01:20PM CRAs IN GENERAL, IF YOU LOOK AROUND IN CERTAIN OTHER
3:01:23PM AREAS, MAYBE NOT AS MUCH -- TAMPA IS NOT NECESSARILY THE
3:01:26PM EXAMPLE OF WHAT A CRA IS.
3:01:27PM MAYBE MORE THE NORM THAN NOT THE NORM.
3:01:29PM I THINK THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT CRAs ARE APPLICABLE
3:01:34PM THAT DON'T CONCERN THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN OUR CRAs IN
3:01:39PM TAMPA.
3:01:39PM I DON'T NECESSARILY --
3:01:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: CRA.
3:01:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONLY CRA BOARD IS US.
3:01:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY.
3:01:49PM CACs.
3:01:50PM YES, SIR, CACs.
3:01:51PM THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
3:01:52PM AGAIN, ALL THAT I WANT IS FOR THIS TO COME BACK JUST FOR A
3:01:56PM DISCUSSION.
3:01:57PM IT'S NOT TO IMPLEMENT IT.
3:01:59PM JUST FOR FEASIBILITY.
3:02:01PM AND THAT'S ALL.
3:02:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT BOARDS,
3:02:08PM COMPOSITION OF BOARDS.
3:02:09PM THIS BATTLE WAS KIND OF FOUGHT.
3:02:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT I DO THIS?
3:02:11PM SINCE WE ONLY HAVE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS.
3:02:13PM I'LL RETURN THIS NEXT MONTH.
3:02:15PM PROBABLY SMARTER.
3:02:18PM YOU ALL CAN THINK ABOUT IT.
3:02:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE AFTER THE DISTRICT FIVE SEAT IS
3:02:22PM FILLED.
3:02:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S FINE.
3:02:23PM WE CAN MOTION FOR IT TO COME BACK AFTER THE DISTRICT --
3:02:27PM BECAUSE I WOULDN'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION UNTIL THE DISTRICT
3:02:29PM FIVE PERSON.
3:02:30PM I'LL MOTION FOR THIS FOR NEXT MONTH, BUT IT WILL COME BACK
3:02:33PM IF I GET THE MAJORITY WHEN WE HAVE THAT FILLED.
3:02:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:02:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION MADE BY -- I DIDN'T.
3:02:47PM NO, NO.
3:02:47PM WE'LL WAIT TO HAVE A FULL BOARD.
3:02:50PM FULLER, IF YOU WILL.
3:02:52PM MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
3:02:54PM SECOND I THINK BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:02:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:02:56PM WE ARE FINISHED.
3:02:58PM THANK YOU, BOARD.
3:02:59PM THANK YOU, STAFF.
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