9:12:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:12:12AM I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
9:12:13AM MR. SHELBY.
9:12:24AM CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE?
9:12:25AM OR ATTENDANCE.
9:12:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:12:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:12:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:12:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:12:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:12:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:12:35AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:12:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
9:12:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD MORNING.
9:12:43AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:12:45AM AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR
9:12:52AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:12:52AM AND THIS APPLIES TO PUBLIC COMMENT, BOTH AT THE INITIAL
9:12:57AM GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA OR DURING THE PUBLIC
9:13:00AM HEARINGS TODAY.
9:13:01AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
9:13:04AM AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
9:13:07AM THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON
9:13:10AM AN ITEM.
9:13:10AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
9:13:15AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:13:16AM NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE
9:13:22AM TIME TO DO THAT IS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, AND IF
9:13:24AM YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND PLACE
9:13:27AM IT IN THE BOX THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
9:13:30AM ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
9:13:32AM AND CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
9:13:35AM COMMENT.
9:13:35AM EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
9:13:38AM APPROACH AND SPEAK.
9:13:39AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
9:13:41AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL
9:13:44AM NOT BE CALLED.
9:13:45AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS
9:13:49AM DESIGNATED AS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA, YOU WILL HAVE
9:13:52AM THAT TIME TO SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED UP DURING THE
9:13:56AM PUBLIC HEARING.
9:13:56AM AND TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE USE THE SIGN-IN
9:14:00AM SHEET THAT'S ON THE PODIUM OUTSIDE INSTEAD.
9:14:02AM IF YOU WOULD NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
9:14:06AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
9:14:09AM THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
9:14:13AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:14:17AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:14:21AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:14:25AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
9:14:29AM COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:14:31AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
9:14:36AM RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE CHAIR AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE
9:14:40AM CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF
9:14:43AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:14:44AM FINALLY, A REMINDER THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS TAKEN FOR ITEMS
9:14:50AM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND FOR ITEMS UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:14:53AM NO COMMENTS ARE ALLOWED DURING STAFF REPORTS.
9:14:56AM THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS IS GOING TO BE DURING
9:15:00AM GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:15:01AM CITY COUNCIL SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER
9:15:05AM PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE
9:15:08AM THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
9:15:11AM DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:15:12AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:15:16AM THANK YOU.
9:15:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
9:15:18AM I WOULD CALL THIS CHAMBER TO ORDER AND NOTE THAT DISRUPTIVE
9:15:22AM BEHAVIOR WON'T BE TOLERATED.
9:15:25AM SIR, THE GENTLEMAN STANDING AGAINST THE WALL, WE'LL GIVE YOU
9:15:27AM AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STEP OUTSIDE, REVERSE
9:15:30AM YOUR SHIRT AND THEN REENTER THE CHAMBER.
9:15:32AM YOU WOULD BE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
9:15:34AM YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY NOW.
9:15:35AM OKAY.
9:15:43AM I'LL TAKE THAT NONACTION AS A NO.
9:15:46AM I RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER.
9:15:47AM I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
9:15:50AM PLEASE.
9:15:51AM SIR, PLEASE, REMOVE YOURSELF FROM COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
9:15:58AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:15:59AM RIGHT NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS FOR
9:16:04AM CHAMBERS.
9:16:04AM I WOULD LIKE THE CLERK, ATTORNEY, CITY COUNCIL, TO PLEASE
9:16:07AM REMOVE YOURSELF FROM CHAMBERS.
9:16:10AM [RECESS]
9:24:08AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:24:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CALL THIS MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL BACK
9:24:10AM TO ORDER.
9:24:10AM CLERK, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:24:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:24:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:24:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:24:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:24:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:24:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:24:20AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:24:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
9:24:22AM IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE, I WOULD -- HAVE THE
9:24:27AM POLICE OFFICER GIVE A LITTLE REPORT OF THE OUTCOME OF THAT.
9:24:30AM THANK YOU.
9:24:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:24:33AM OFFICER BARBOSA, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:24:35AM AT YOUR ORDER, THE GENTLEMAN THAT DID NOT WANT TO LEAVE
9:24:39AM CHAMBERS WAS ASKED TO LEAVE.
9:24:41AM HE REFUSED.
9:24:42AM HE WAS NOT ARRESTED.
9:24:43AM HE WAS HANDCUFFED.
9:24:44AM HE WAS ESCORTED OUT OF CHAMBERS.
9:24:46AM ESCORTED DOWN STAIRS TO THE FIRST FLOOR.
9:24:48AM ESCORTED OUT THE EXIT AND WAS ADVISED THAT HE WAS RULED OUT
9:24:51AM OF ORDER AND WAS NOT WELCOME IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS TODAY.
9:24:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:24:56AM APPRECIATE YOUR ASSISTANCE.
9:24:57AM THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE AGAIN.
9:24:58AM WE ARE GOING TO PICK BACK UP -- WE'LL START WITH THE
9:25:05AM INVOCATION.
9:25:07AM LUIS VIERA, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE INVOCATION THIS MONTH.
9:25:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:25:13AM I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR FRIEND, STEVE MICHELINI, THE MAN
9:25:16AM IN THE RED TIE, WHO WILL PROVIDE TODAY'S INVOCATION AND
9:25:19AM RECOGNIZE OUR DEAR COLLEAGUE, MARY BRYAN.
9:25:21AM TODAY IS MARY'S LAST MEETING IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AFTER 63
9:25:24AM YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:25:25AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:25:26AM TOMORROW WILL BE MARY'S LAST DAY.
9:25:36AM WE WISH MARY CONTINUED HEALTH AND SUCCESS AND HAPPINESS IN
9:25:39AM HER FORTHCOMING RETIREMENT.
9:25:41AM IF YOU ALL WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THIS INVOCATION.
9:25:44AM THERE WILL BE SOME AWARDS AND PRESENTATION AFTERWARDS.
9:25:47AM REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
9:25:50AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING.
9:25:51AM NO GREATER LOVE CAN ANYONE HAVE THAN TO BE OR BE CALLED A
9:25:57AM FRIEND.
9:25:57AM WHAT GREATER GIFT TO YOUR FELLOW MAN THAN TO BE CALLED A
9:26:01AM HUMANITARIAN.
9:26:02AM WHAT GREATER GIFT CAN YOU GIVE TO PROVIDE HOPE AND
9:26:05AM ASSISTANCE WHEN YOU THOUGHT THERE WAS NONE.
9:26:07AM WHAT GREATER LOVE CAN YOU HAVE THAN DEDICATING YOUR LIFE TO
9:26:11AM HELPING OTHERS?
9:26:12AM WHAT GREATER LOVE CAN YOU HAVE THAN TO PROVIDE 63 YEARS, ALL
9:26:17AM OF YOUR ADULT LIFE, FOR YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY AND THE
9:26:20AM BETTERMENT OF TAMPA?
9:26:21AM ALL THESE CHARACTERISTICS AND MORE ARE GODLY WAYS, CARING,
9:26:28AM SYMPATHETIC, ENERGETIC, DETERMINED AND ONE OF THE MOST
9:26:31AM EFFECTIVE PROBLEM-SOLVERS EVER.
9:26:33AM IT IS A GOD-GIVEN GIFT THAT WHEN INDIVIDUALS LIKE THIS MOVE
9:26:38AM AMONG US, THEY ARE BLESSED.
9:26:40AM GIVING MORE, TAKING LESS THAN WHAT YOU WERE GIVEN EVERY
9:26:45AM TIME, EVERY DAY UNDER HAPPY AND ALSO CHALLENGING CONDITIONS.
9:26:50AM DAY IN AND DAY OUT, WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT, YEAR IN AND YEAR
9:26:54AM OUT FOR 63 YEARS.
9:26:56AM CHARACTER CANNOT BE TAUGHT.
9:26:59AM IT'S INNATE.
9:27:00AM NATURED AND HONED THROUGH TRIAL AND TRAVESTY.
9:27:07AM BY LIFE, ITS CHALLENGES, SUCCESSES, FAILURES INDEED, YOU
9:27:12AM LEARN MORE FROM FAILURE THAN YOU DO FROM SUCCESS.
9:27:15AM WE ALL SHARE BOTH, AND WE ALL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
9:27:19AM MARY HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THOUSANDS OF LIVES.
9:27:22AM DO MORE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY THAN IT ASKS OF YOU.
9:27:26AM GIVE MORE, TAKE LESS.
9:27:28AM LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND MAKE IT BETTER THAN THE PAST.
9:27:30AM DON'T BE AFRAID OF FAILURE.
9:27:32AM SUCCESS IS BUILT UPON IT.
9:27:34AM BE GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE, SO MANY OTHERS HAVE LESS.
9:27:37AM NEVER FORGET THAT YOU CAN AND DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
9:27:40AM MAINTAINING FAITH AND COURAGE, THEY ARE FUNDAMENTAL ELEMENTS
9:27:44AM THAT WILL SUSTAIN YOU.
9:27:45AM LOOK FOR THE BEST IN OTHERS AND YOU WILL FIND IT IN
9:27:49AM YOURSELF.
9:27:49AM STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE AND STILL HOPE.
9:27:53AM EMPOWER THE RIGHT, VANQUISH THE WRONG.
9:27:56AM LOVE, CARE, NURTURE YOUR FAMILY AS IT IS A FOUNDATION OF
9:28:00AM YOUR GENERATION AND FOR ALL FUTURE GENERATIONS.
9:28:03AM GIVE THANKS TO GOD FOR EVERY DAY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE.
9:28:07AM PRAY FREQUENTLY.
9:28:08AM LIVE HONESTLY.
9:28:09AM HELP EVERY STRANGER, FACE EVERY CHALLENGE, LIVE WELL, FIND
9:28:13AM SOLUTIONS TO ISSUES AND EVENTS.
9:28:16AM CAST OF THOUSANDS APPLAUD YOU.
9:28:18AM MAY THE GOOD LORD PROTECT YOU AND THE FIRST RESPONDERS,
9:28:22AM ELECTED OFFICIALS AND ALL THOSE GATHERED HERE TODAY.
9:28:25AM GODSPEED MARY AS WE CLOSE ONE CHAPTER AND OPEN ANOTHER.
9:28:29AM WE PRESENT THIS TO YOU WITH LOVE, NOTHING BUT LOVE, AMEN.
9:28:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. BRYAN, WOULD YOU GO TO THE PODIUM AND
9:28:42AM LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE?
9:28:44AM YOU GOT TO GET IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM.
9:28:52AM THERE YOU GO.
9:28:54AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:29:08AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: MARY, WE HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING ELSE FOR
9:29:10AM YOU.
9:29:11AM >> SO AT THE REQUEST OF KATHY CASTOR, THIS FLAG WAS FLOWN AT
9:29:15AM THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL FOR YOU IN YOUR HONOR.
9:29:18AM WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE HERE STATING THAT THE FLAG WAS FLOWN
9:29:21AM IN RECOGNITION FOR THE 63 YEARS OF HONORABLE SERVICE TO THE
9:29:25AM TAMPA COMMUNITY BY MARY BRYAN.
9:29:28AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:37AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: ONE FINAL NOTE.
9:29:39AM THERE'S BEEN A PERMANENT RECORD CREATED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL
9:29:42AM RECORD IN RECOGNITION OF MARY.
9:29:43AM I KNOW SHE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE FEDERAL REGISTER AND THE
9:29:46AM CONGRESSIONAL RECORD BECAUSE WE USED TO LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY
9:29:48AM FOR GRANTS FOR THE CITY.
9:29:50AM BUT THERE IS A PERMANENT RECORD THAT IS ESTABLISHED NOW IN
9:29:54AM THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD IN HER NAME.
9:29:56AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:02AM >> I WORKED WITH STEVE FOR A -- I WAS GOING TO SAY A FEW
9:30:07AM HUNDRED YEARS.
9:30:08AM HE WAS REALLY GOOD AT HIS JOB.
9:30:12AM HE REALLY BROUGHT IN A LOT OF MONEY.
9:30:14AM YOU MIGHT PUT HIM TO WORK AGAIN SINCE OUR BUDGET NEEDS HELP.
9:30:19AM THANK YOU.
9:30:21AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. BRYAN.
9:30:28AM I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING, BUT I ONLY SERVED WITH YOU A COUPLE
9:30:32AM OF YEARS AND IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE.
9:30:34AM YOU'VE BEEN A WONDERFUL FRIEND AND A GREAT CONFIDANT AND
9:30:39AM PERSON TO COME TO, A FOUNT OF INFORMATION AND YOU WILL BE
9:30:43AM MISSED TERRIBLY.
9:30:44AM I WILL BE JEALOUS IF YOU ARE SITTING IN SPAIN.
9:30:46AM THANK YOU.
9:30:48AM COUNCIL, WE WOULD LIKE -- MR. CARLSON.
9:30:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'RE HAVING AN EVENT TOMORROW FOR MARY.
9:30:54AM SO WE'LL ALL SAY MORE THEN.
9:30:56AM BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALSO, WE HAD A POLICE OFFICER WHO
9:30:58AM WAS SHOT YESTERDAY.
9:31:01AM WE HAD A POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS SHOT YESTERDAY.
9:31:05AM I THINK WE SHOULD ALL THINK ABOUT THE OFFICER AND PRAY FOR
9:31:07AM THE OFFICER'S FAMILY.
9:31:09AM ALSO THE PBA AND I THINK MOST OF US HAVE REPOSTED LIKE A GO
9:31:13AM FUND ME LINK FOR THE FAMILY AS WELL.
9:31:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, PLEASE
9:31:20AM CONTACT ANYONE ON CITY COUNCIL.
9:31:23AM GIVE YOU THE LINK.
9:31:25AM I DID DONATE YESTERDAY AS WELL.
9:31:26AM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE
9:31:28AM REGULAR SESSION HELD ON JUNE 17, 2025, AND THE EVENING
9:31:31AM SESSION HELD ON JULY 24, 2025.
9:31:34AM I HEARD A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECOND FROM
9:31:39AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:31:40AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:31:42AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:31:44AM OPPOSED?
9:31:44AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:31:45AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:46AM WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE AGENDA REVIEW.
9:31:49AM WE DO HAVE AN ADDENDUM.
9:31:57AM WE RECEIVED A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN HURTAK PULLING A COUPLE
9:32:01AM OF ITEMS.
9:32:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I WANT TO PULL ITEMS 32 AND 51 FOR
9:32:05AM DISCUSSION.
9:32:05AM STAFF IS AWARE.
9:32:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
9:32:11AM TO PULL ITEMS 32 AND 51 FOR DISCUSSION.
9:32:15AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:32:15AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:32:17AM OPPOSED?
9:32:17AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
9:32:18AM ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE AGENDA?
9:32:24AM LET'S MOVE ON TO STAFF REPORTS FOR WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS.
9:32:27AM ITEM 68 WAS A MISNOTICE AND WILL NOT BE HEARD.
9:32:31AM HOWEVER, I NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE DOCUMENTS
9:32:34AM ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
9:32:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ACTUALLY CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL 10:30.
9:32:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE RECEIVE AND FILE THE DOCUMENTS NOW?
9:32:40AM IT WAS MISNOTICED.
9:32:43AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND FROM
9:32:46AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:32:47AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:32:49AM OPPOSED?
9:32:49AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
9:32:51AM 69 IS ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
9:32:55AM WE DO HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE FROM SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ.
9:32:58AM IT'S ABOUT SENATE BILL 180.
9:33:01AM MR. BENNETT, ANYTHING ELSE INCLUDED IN THAT TODAY?
9:33:04AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:05AM ITEMS 70 THROUGH 72 ARE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA
9:33:11AM BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT.
9:33:12AM DO WE NEED A REPORT ON THOSE ITEMS?
9:33:14AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:33:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'VE HAD A COUPLE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
9:33:25AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT LAST YEAR'S CONTRACT FUNDED.
9:33:27AM I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE GET A REPORT OF THOSE ITEMS.
9:33:33AM THAT'S IT.
9:33:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN IT COMES UP, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF
9:33:37AM ON THE RECORD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACT DOES NOT
9:33:40AM INCLUDE A RED LIGHT ON FRANKLIN STREET.
9:33:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS 70 THROUGH 72.
9:33:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: 71 IS A CONTRACT FOR CHANNEL DISTRICT.
9:33:48AM IN THE PAST, THEY TRIED TO SLIDE IN RED LIGHTS --
9:33:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL HAVE STAFF FOR 70 THROUGH 72.
9:33:54AM 70, I BELIEVE STAFF WILL BE HERE TO REPORT ON THAT.
9:33:57AM 71 AND 72, 73, BRAD BAIRD WILL BE HERE TO PRESENT.
9:34:02AM FYI, 73, THERE WAS SOME MISINFORMATION IN THE AGENDA.
9:34:08AM 73 IS NO ACTION.
9:34:09AM IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AT A FUTURE DATE.
9:34:12AM IT WILL BE INFORMATION ONLY.
9:34:14AM 74, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CHRISTINE GLOVER WILL BE HERE TO
9:34:18AM REPORT ON THAT.
9:34:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY I HAVE STUFF I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN
9:34:23AM THE BACKGROUND FOR THAT, THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT -- THAT
9:34:26AM WE'LL TALK ABOUT DURING 74 ABOUT STORMWATER OVERALL.
9:34:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
9:34:32AM WE WILL EXPECT CHRISTINE GLOVER TO BE HERE IN COUNCIL
9:34:36AM CHAMBERS.
9:34:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED CHRISTINE GLOVER.
9:34:40AM IT'S UP TO CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:34:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE'S READY AND WILLING AND IF WE DON'T
9:34:48AM NEED IT, WE DON'T NEED IT.
9:34:50AM WE HAVE 75, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:34:54AM OCEA WYNN WILL BE HERE FOR A VERBAL REPORT ON THAT.
9:34:58AM 76, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, OCEA WYNN, VERBAL REPORT ON THAT.
9:35:04AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, 77, I BELIEVE EITHER BRANDON OR ADAM
9:35:08AM FOR A VERBAL REPORT ON THAT ONE.
9:35:11AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, QUESTION FOR YOU, FOR 78, YOUR MOTION MAY
9:35:15AM END UP BEING MOOT.
9:35:16AM IF WE PASS THE RESOLUTION ON UNSPENT MONEY IN 2024 IN THE
9:35:19AM CONSENT AGENDA, I THINK THAT MAKES 78 MOOT.
9:35:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD STILL LIKE TO, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN,
9:35:26AM HAVE A REPORT ON WHEN THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.
9:35:29AM A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE OF ALL THE
9:35:35AM EXCLUSION INADVERTENTLY THAT HAPPENED WITH THE FIRST SET OF
9:35:38AM FUNDS.
9:35:38AM JUST A QUICK REPORT ON WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.
9:35:42AM THAT WAS REALLY MY INTENT.
9:35:44AM IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD BUT IN TERMS OF WHEN IT'S GOING
9:35:47AM TO BE AVAILABLE AND THE PROCESS.
9:35:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ACTUAL THING IS ASKING FOR THE TIMELINE.
9:35:53AM IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL APPROVING OF THE MONEY.
9:35:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL ASK STAFF TO BE AVAILABLE FOR ITEM
9:35:59AM 78.
9:36:00AM ITEM 79 AND 81 IS A RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:36:03AM CAN WE GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
9:36:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: QUICK COMMENT ABOUT 81.
9:36:10AM WE MONTHS AGO ASKED, SUGGESTED TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WE
9:36:15AM SET UP A JOINT COMMITTEE THAT WOULD ADVISE ON PUTTING
9:36:19AM TOGETHER SEMI QUINCENTENNIAL CELEBRATION FOR THE UNITED
9:36:23AM STATES.
9:36:24AM THE ADMINISTRATION WROTE A MEMO BACK SAYING ESSENTIALLY BUD
9:36:28AM OUT.
9:36:30AM THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO DO IT.
9:36:30AM WE DON'T NEED THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC TO BE INVOLVED.
9:36:32AM IT'S DISAPPOINTING, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
9:36:33AM SO GOOD LUCK TO THEM.
9:36:35AM THANK YOU.
9:36:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
9:36:38AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:36:41AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:36:45AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:36:47AM OPPOSED?
9:36:47AM I NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE 82 TO AUGUST 7, 2025.
9:36:51AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:36:53AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:36:54AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:36:56AM OPPOSED?
9:36:56AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:36:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY REASON, WE ARE WORKING BEHIND THE
9:37:01AM SCENES ON THIS ONE.
9:37:03AM IT'S JUST NOT READY YET.
9:37:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
9:37:06AM I THINK WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON -- 80.
9:37:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE APPROVED 79 AND 81, BUT NOT 80.
9:37:19AM OH, THROUGH 81.
9:37:22AM SORRY, I MISSED THAT.
9:37:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:37:25AM NO WORRIES.
9:37:26AM WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.
9:37:29AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:37:32AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:37:33AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:37:35AM OPPOSED?
9:37:35AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:37:36AM WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:37:41AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME ONLINE SPEAKERS.
9:37:44AM I DON'T HAVE A LIST OF THOSE THIS MORNING.
9:37:48AM LUCAS AND MICHAEL.
9:37:59AM LUCAS, CAN YOU HEAR US?
9:38:00AM START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
9:38:08AM >>THE CLERK: LUCAS KOSKI, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF.
9:38:13AM >> THERE WE GO.
9:38:14AM LUCAS KOSKI.
9:38:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, LUCAS.
9:38:19AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:38:21AM MY NAME IS LUCAS KOSKI.
9:38:23AM I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT AT ARTSPACE PROJECTS.
9:38:25AM I'M HERE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE ARTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING
9:38:28AM PROJECT.
9:38:29AM THIS PROJECT WOULD PROVIDE MUCH-NEEDED AFFORDABLE LIVE/WORK
9:38:33AM SPACE FOR TAMPA.
9:38:35AM ARTISTS AND CREATIVE SECTOR, MANY OF WHOM ACROSS THE NATION
9:38:39AM ARE STRUGGLING TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITIES THEY HELP
9:38:42AM ENRICHER.
9:38:42AM ART SPACE HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD ACROSS THE COUNTRY
9:38:46AM CREATING DEVELOPMENTS TO SUPPORT LOCAL CULTURE, BOOST
9:38:49AM NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIES AND BOOST LASTING -- WE KNOW THAT THE
9:38:52AM ARTS AND CREATIVE SECTOR ARE VITAL TO TAMPA'S IDENTITY AND
9:38:56AM ECONOMY.
9:39:00AM WITHOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORK SPACES, TAMPA RISKS
9:39:04AM LOSING THE VERY PEOPLE THAT BRING THE CITY TO LIFE.
9:39:06AM WE URGE YOU SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
9:39:07AM ESSENTIAL PREDEVELOPMENT FUNDING AND PUBLIC BACKING.
9:39:10AM IT'S MORE THAN JUST HOUSING.
9:39:12AM IT IS INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY'S CREATIVE.
9:39:14AM ARTSPACE WOULD LOVE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
9:39:16AM COMMITMENT TO THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
9:39:19AM I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MY COLLEAGUE, PABLO LITUMA HAD
9:39:27AM A LITTLE BIT OF A FAMILY EMERGENCY.
9:39:29AM HE'S LISTED IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN THIS
9:39:32AM MORNING.
9:39:33AM I WANT TO ECHO THAT HE ALSO THANKS COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THEIR
9:39:37AM ATTENTION TO THIS AND IS REALLY EXCITED TO BEGIN THE HARD
9:39:40AM AND EARNEST WORK OF PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:39:42AM THANK YOU.
9:39:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:39:45AM ENJOY YOUR DAY.
9:39:47AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:39:49AM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:39:52AM I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE FORGOTTEN 800 BODIES THAT
9:39:57AM WERE -- GOOD MORNING AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL.
9:39:59AM I COME HERE TODAY NOT AS AN ADVOCATE, BUT AS A FORMAL
9:40:05AM RESIDENT OF ROBLES PARK.
9:40:09AM SUPPORT OF FUNDING FOR MEMORIAL PARK INITIATIVE IS
9:40:13AM PROFOUNDLY PERSONAL.
9:40:14AM LIVE EIGHT DOORS AWAY FROM WHERE THE BODIES WERE DISCOVERED.
9:40:20AM UNTIL WE FOUND OUT THEY WERE BURIED THERE.
9:40:27AM IN THE SPIRIT OF THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE, I
9:40:30AM RESPECTFULLY AND PASSIONATELY URGE YOU TO APPROVE -- LAND
9:40:39AM SWAP AND OTHER SUPPORT FOR THIS SACRED INITIATIVE.
9:40:41AM THIS IS MORE THAN A MEMORIAL.
9:40:45AM IT IS, IN FACT, A MORAL OBLIGATION.
9:40:47AM YOU HAVE THE POWER TO RIGHT A HISTORIC WRONG AND RESTORE
9:40:53AM JUSTICE TO OVER 850 FORGOTTEN SOULS.
9:40:58AM WE BELIEVE SUPPORT FOR THE ZION CEMETERY, ZION GEOLOGICAL
9:41:05AM RESEARCH CENTER, THE MEMORIAL DESIGN-BUILD AND COMMUNITY
9:41:07AM PROGRAMMING GRANT OFFER NOT ONLY AN HISTORIC, BUT AN
9:41:14AM EMOTIONAL -- AND ALSO A MEASURABLE AND SOCIAL IMPACT.
9:41:19AM THE GEOLOGICAL RESEARCH CENTER IS DESIGNED NOT ONLY AS
9:41:27AM CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL ANCHOR, BUT ALSO AS A FINE INCOME
9:41:31AM MODEL GENERATING REVENUE THROUGH EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS,
9:41:35AM GEOLOGICAL SERVICES, RENTAL SPACE AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.
9:41:40AM WITH THE MEMORIAL DESIGN-BUILD, THIS BUILD WOULD SERVE AS A
9:41:46AM POWERFUL PUBLIC SPACE FOR REFLECTION, EDUCATION, AND
9:41:53AM OFFERING AN ARTISTIC HISTORICAL INTERPRETATION AND
9:41:58AM ECONOMICAL POTENTIAL.
9:41:59AM LET US HONOR THE PAST WITH ACTION AND SHAPE A FUTURE THAT
9:42:05AM REFLECTS DIGNITY, TRUTH, AND RECONCILIATION.
9:42:10AM THANK YOU.
9:42:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
9:42:16AM ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
9:42:17AM WE'LL MOVE ON -- THAT WAS THE LAST TWO, CORRECT?
9:42:20AM NOBODY CAME BACK ON?
9:42:21AM WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:42:23AM OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS DR. ALEX HARRIS, FOLLOWED BY CONNIE
9:42:27AM BURTON.
9:42:28AM DOCTOR OR DIRECTOR.
9:42:33AM I CAN'T TELL.
9:42:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:42:35AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:42:38AM I'M HERE JUST TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE --
9:42:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
9:42:43AM >> I'M SORRY.
9:42:44AM ALEX HARRIS.
9:42:45AM THANK YOU.
9:42:50AM ALEX HARRIS.
9:42:51AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
9:42:53AM I'M HERE TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE FOR THE SUPPORT OF ART SPACE
9:42:58AM AS THE FOUNDER FOR THE ARTS CONSERVATORY FOR TEENS, WE HAVE
9:43:03AM 5 OF 19 SITES THAT FOCUSES ON YOUTH DEVELOPMENT IN THE ARTS
9:43:07AM AND PREPARING FOR CAREERS.
9:43:09AM FOR THIS KIND OF SUPPORT, CERTAINLY SENDS A STRONG SIGNAL TO
9:43:12AM OUR YOUNG FOLKS THAT OUR COMMUNITY DOES SUPPORT THE ARTS
9:43:17AM PROFESSIONALS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE
9:43:19AM OVERALL ECONOMY AND OUR CULTURE.
9:43:23AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND WE HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO
9:43:27AM RECEIVE EACH OF YOUR SUPPORT AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD AND
9:43:30AM EXPAND WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR PROFESSIONALS AS WELL AS OUR
9:43:33AM UP AND COMING PROFESSIONALS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
9:43:36AM ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:43:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
9:43:39AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:43:40AM THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE DR. CAROLYN COLLINS.
9:43:45AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:43:46AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:43:47AM I REALLY WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THINGS THAT I FEEL YOU
9:43:53AM SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO.
9:43:56AM IN NUMBER 1 AGENDA ITEM, THE REAPPOINTMENT, AND I KNOW YOU
9:44:02AM DON'T DO THIS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE MAYOR, PEOPLE FOR
9:44:07AM YEARS COMING BACK TO BE REAPPOINTED TO A DIVISION THAT --
9:44:12AM AND I'M TALKING PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY,
9:44:15AM THAT DO NOT HAVE TO COME TO YOU TO TELL YOU WHAT IS THEIR
9:44:18AM VISION, WHAT IS THEIR PLAN, HOW ARE THEY TAKING CARE OF THE
9:44:21AM ISSUES OF THE POOR.
9:44:23AM HOW ARE THEY DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF THE BACKLOG OF THE
9:44:26AM WAITING LIST OF PEOPLE THAT NEED HOUSING.
9:44:29AM HOW MANY PEOPLE DID THEY MOVE TOWARD HOME OWNERSHIP?
9:44:31AM IT'S DISTURBING TO EVEN COME DOWN NEBRASKA AVENUE THIS
9:44:37AM MORNING TO SEE HOW THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS IN THE BUSINESS
9:44:40AM OF HOTEL BUILDING.
9:44:42AM WHEN WE GOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY
9:44:45AM THAT IS NOT ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF HOUSING OF THE POOR.
9:44:49AM SOME OF THESE QUICK FIXES, YOU KNOW, TENT CITIES, IT'S
9:45:00AM AMAZING TO ME.
9:45:01AM I JUST WISH YOU WOULD IN YOUR REAPPOINTMENT OF THESE PEOPLE
9:45:06AM TO THE BOARD, ASK THEIR STAKEHOLDERS TO COME AND SPEAK TO
9:45:09AM YOU ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING ON BEHALF OF THE
9:45:12AM THINGS THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
9:45:13AM AND, OF COURSE, ITEM NUMBER 75, THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING
9:45:18AM ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
9:45:21AM DISABILITY, WE HAD A SUMMER PROGRAM THAT THEY COULD NOT EVEN
9:45:25AM GET OFF THE GROUND GOOD.
9:45:26AM IT WAS MOVED TO THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND WE KNOW THAT
9:45:30AM THAT DIRECTOR WAS LOOKING AND SEEKING ANOTHER JOB.
9:45:34AM HOW DID THAT -- IN THAT GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE FARE?
9:45:39AM WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL IT IS NEXT SUMMER, STILL GOING
9:45:44AM OVER THE SAME ISSUES AGAIN.
9:45:45AM WHY CAN'T WE GET TO 72?
9:45:47AM WHY CAN'T WE GET TO 144?
9:45:49AM WHY CAN'T BE THAT A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM?
9:45:52AM WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT MANY OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE
9:45:56AM PROGRAM DIDN'T EVEN LIVE IN THE CITY, WITHIN THE CITY
9:45:58AM DISTRICT.
9:45:59AM THAT'S HOW DESPERATE OF NEED, YOUNG PEOPLE NEED FOR REAL
9:46:03AM INTENTION AND OPPORTUNITY.
9:46:04AM THANK YOU.
9:46:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, CONNIE.
9:46:06AM DR. CAROLYN COLLINS.
9:46:08AM THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE CHRIS.
9:46:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:46:19AM DR. CAROLYN COLLINS, CHAIR FOR THE HISTORIC JACKSON HOUSE
9:46:25AM FOUNDATION INC.
9:46:27AM I JUST WANTED TO COME UP TODAY BRIEFLY TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL,
9:46:31AM THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE SINCE THAT TIME, BUT I WANT TO
9:46:34AM GIVE MEMORY TO THE LATE COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON.
9:46:42AM AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE COUNCIL FOR SUPPORT ON A
9:46:45AM CONSISTENT BASIS THAT EACH OF YOU HAVE GIVEN US AND VERY
9:46:48AM SPECIAL SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED.
9:46:51AM BUT ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY, ITEM NUMBER 49, WE WANT TO GIVE
9:46:59AM THANKS TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE
9:47:03AM SOMETHING THAT WE WORKED ON WELL OVER THREE YEARS, TRYING TO
9:47:07AM GET A DOCUMENT SIGNED THAT WE FELT WE SHOULD BE IN THE
9:47:11AM BEGINNING, HAS REACHED A POINT WHERE MEETING WITH ALL
9:47:15AM CONCERNS ALL OVER THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, THE MAYOR AND HER
9:47:18AM ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM WENT BACK TO ONE OF ITS FORMER
9:47:23AM AMENDMENTS WITH THE ACCARDIS.
9:47:26AM WE WANT TO SAY NOW THAT BASED ON WHAT'S IN THAT AMENDMENT,
9:47:30AM WE ARE IN TOTAL SUPPORT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO SIGN
9:47:33AM ANYTHING.
9:47:34AM WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, IT WAS NOT
9:47:38AM RESPONDED TO FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND WE ARE HAPPY.
9:47:41AM THANKS.
9:47:43AM BUT THE MAYOR HAS GOTTEN TOGETHER WITH HER ADMINISTRATIVE
9:47:47AM TEAM.
9:47:48AM THEY HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT WILL GIVE US A 10 FEET EASEMENT ON
9:47:51AM EACH SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
9:47:53AM JUST AS A BRIEF UPDATE, WE ALREADY COMPLETED OUR RFQ.
9:47:57AM WE WERE MOVING ON WITHOUT IT AS WE INDICATED TO YOU BEFORE.
9:48:00AM AFTER THE RFQ, WE COMPLETED THE RFP.
9:48:05AM MORE THAN 30 DAYS, WE EXTENDED IT, WE GOT TWO MORE BIDDERS
9:48:10AM AFTERWARDS.
9:48:10AM THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO COME IN BUT HAVE AGREED THAT THEY'LL
9:48:13AM WORK WITH US ON A CONSULTANT BASIS.
9:48:15AM WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR INTERVIEWS.
9:48:17AM THEY ARE DONE.
9:48:18AM I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
9:48:20AM ALL OF THE VERBAL INTERVIEWS AND WE WILL BE DOING A WALK
9:48:23AM SITE INTERVIEW WITH THE THREE FINALISTS.
9:48:25AM THE STATE IS INVOLVED.
9:48:27AM THEY ARE IN WITH US.
9:48:29AM OTHER THAN WHATEVER WE TWEAK A LITTLE BIT WITH WHAT'S GOING
9:48:32AM ON WITH THE TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER, WHILE THEY WAIT ON
9:48:35AM THEIR NEW DIRECTOR TO COME IN, WE ARE WELL ON THE WAY,
9:48:39AM BECAUSE WE FELT AT THIS HURRICANE SEASON, THE JACKSON HOUSE
9:48:42AM SPOKE TO US AND TOLD US WE CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE.
9:48:45AM WE NEED YOUR HELP.
9:48:47AM FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE HELPED TO US THE CITY, TO THE
9:48:50AM COUNTY AND EVERYONE, WE ARE MORE THAN GRATEFUL.
9:48:53AM AND WE WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WHATEVER THE CITY IS DOING WITH
9:48:57AM THE MAYOR, IN AMENDMENT 4, OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT THAT GOES
9:49:01AM BACK A FEW YEARS, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE AS LONG AS THE JACKSON
9:49:06AM HOUSE GET TEN FEET EASEMENT ON EACH SIDE OF THE HOUSE SO
9:49:10AM THAT WHAT WE ARE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING, WE WILL
9:49:13AM NOT HAVE TO DO IT WITHOUT THE EASEMENT.
9:49:16AM SO THANK YOU.
9:49:18AM APPRECIATE ALL YOU'VE DONE AND LOOK FORWARD TO MORE
9:49:20AM INFORMATION FROM US FORTHCOMING.
9:49:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
9:49:23AM CHRIS VELA.
9:49:25AM FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:49:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:49:34AM MY NAME IS CHRIS VELA.
9:49:36AM I LIVE 33605 YBOR CITY.
9:49:39AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT KILEY GARDENS.
9:49:44AM THERE IS A STATUS COMING UP.
9:49:46AM I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN KILEY GARDENS ALL THE WAY BACK 37
9:49:49AM YEARS AGO.
9:49:50AM I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST KIDS THAT STEPPED IN THAT PARK,
9:49:52AM OBSERVED THE TREE ALLEY, THE CRAPE MYRTLES, THE WATER
9:49:56AM FLOWING, THE WIND, THE NICE BREEZE.
9:49:59AM IT INSPIRED ME TO GET INTO A CAREER OF DESIGN AND URBAN
9:50:02AM DESIGN.
9:50:03AM I'M SURE IT INSPIRED A LOT OF CHILDREN DURING THAT TIME TO
9:50:07AM GET IN DESIGN OR A FIELD THAT DEALS WITH JUST MAKING THINGS
9:50:11AM LOOK BETTER AND FEEL BETTER.
9:50:12AM NOW, FAST-FORWARDING OVER TO THIS POINT TODAY, IN 2003, I
9:50:18AM FORMED A NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
9:50:20AM A BUNCH OF ARCHITECTS TOGETHER, URBAN LAND DESIGNERS AND SO
9:50:23AM ON.
9:50:23AM WE TRIED TO LOBBY PAM IORIO, CITY STAFF THEN TO RESTORE
9:50:28AM KILEY GARDENS.
9:50:29AM WE WERE SUCCESSFUL TO A CERTAIN POINT.
9:50:31AM IN 2009, TIGER GRANT THROUGH THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, WE
9:50:36AM GOT MOST OF THE PARK RESTORED.
9:50:39AM OVERSEEN BY PROFESSIONALS.
9:50:39AM A LOT OF REPORTS SAYING THAT IT CAN SUPPORT THE CRAPE MYRTLE
9:50:43AM TREES OR A SUBSTITUTE FOR IT.
9:50:45AM HERE WE ARE TODAY.
9:50:47AM BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT DAN KILEY AND WHY HE IS IMPORTANT.
9:50:51AM FIRST OF ALL, PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON AWARDED THE
9:50:55AM PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF ARTS FOR HIM.
9:50:56AM HIS WORK IS FOUND IN THE NATIONAL GALLERY IN D.C., ART
9:50:59AM INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO, JEFFERSON MEMORIAL IN ST. LOUIS, THE
9:51:03AM LIST GOES ON.
9:51:04AM IT IS AN IMPORTANT ASSET TO HAVE ON THE RIVERWALK.
9:51:08AM AS YOU KNOW, IT IS AN ARTS WALK.
9:51:09AM IT IS PART OF THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART.
9:51:12AM IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
9:51:13AM A LOT OF PEOPLE GO THERE TO DO PERFORMANCES, WHETHER IT'S
9:51:16AM MUSIC, SMALL YOGA PRACTICES OR WHATNOT.
9:51:19AM IT IS A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND ALWAYS BEEN A CORNERSTONE OF
9:51:22AM THAT.
9:51:22AM IF YOU LOOKED AT THE FOUNTAINS WHEN THEY ARE IN OPERATION,
9:51:25AM THEY ACTUALLY RESEMBLE THE OPERATION THAT OCCURRED ACROSS
9:51:29AM THE UT WITH THE DESIGN FOUNTAINS YOU SEE IN THE ROUNDABOUT.
9:51:36AM THERE WERE A LOT OF CUES WHERE DAN KILEY WAS TRYING TO MAKE
9:51:40AM RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT, AS WELL AS THE MCNB TOWER.
9:51:46AM WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US DA HE?
9:51:47AM RIGHT NOW, AS I SAID, THE PARK GOT RESTORED.
9:51:49AM I THINK PARKING GARAGES ARE ALWAYS GOING TO LEAK.
9:51:52AM YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE BAD SEALS.
9:51:55AM I DON'T THINK THERE IS A DIRE SENSE -- AND I HOPE THERE
9:51:57AM ISN'T.
9:51:58AM I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER USING THIS TIME, WHEN THE
9:52:01AM REPORT IS SPOKEN, TO SEARCH AND SEE IF YOU CAN DO ANY
9:52:06AM LEVERAGE TO GET KILEY GARDEN ON A LOCAL LANDMARK
9:52:09AM DESIGNATION.
9:52:10AM I WAS HERE OVER 20 YEARS AGO TO ASK THAT.
9:52:12AM I'M HERE TODAY.
9:52:14AM I THINK NOW WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION WHERE WE CAN PUT SOME
9:52:17AM FUNDING, STATE FUNDING, NATIONAL FUNDING, TO RESTORE KILEY
9:52:22AM GARDENS BACK TO WHERE IT WAS BEFORE, AT LEAST AS MUCH AS
9:52:25AM POSSIBLE.
9:52:26AM PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THIS GEM WE HAVE THAT
9:52:28AM INSPIRED ME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE.
9:52:30AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:52:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:52:32AM STEPHANIE POYNOR, FOLLOWED BY ALISON HEWITT.
9:52:39AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:52:39AM THIS IS FROM THE NOVEMBER -- FEBRUARY 15 --
9:52:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
9:52:53AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR, CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:52:56AM THIS IS FROM AGENDA, FEBRUARY 15, 2024.
9:53:05AM I THINK THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY ANOTHER FOLLOW-ON TO THIS.
9:53:09AM I COULDN'T FIND IT.
9:53:10AM MY HARD DRIVE CRASHED THIS WEEKEND.
9:53:12AM TWO WEEKS AGO, WE FOUND OUT THAT $2.5 MILLION HAD BEEN
9:53:18AM SNATCHED OUT FROM OUR PAVING FUND.
9:53:20AM AND HERE WE GO.
9:53:23AM TODAY, ITEM NUMBER 32 IS TALKING ABOUT WE ARE -- THE
9:53:29AM CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE PAYING FOR PEOPLE TO USE THEIR CREDIT
9:53:33AM CARDS TO PAY THEIR WATER BILL.
9:53:34AM I'VE SLEPT ONCE OR TWICE SINCE THEN, BUT I'M ALMOST POSITIVE
9:53:41AM -- I KNOW I'M POSITIVE, THAT WE VOTED THAT THOSE FEES BE
9:53:47AM INCURRED BY THE PERSON WHO USES THEIR CREDIT CARD.
9:53:49AM POOR PEOPLE DON'T PAY THEIR WATER BILL WITH A CREDIT CARD.
9:53:53AM THEY PAY IT IN PERSON, IN CASH.
9:53:55AM THEY PAY IT WITH A CHECK IF THEY NEED TO.
9:53:57AM BUT WHY ARE WE SUBSIDIZING THE USE OF CREDIT CARDS TO PAY
9:54:02AM YOUR BILLS?
9:54:04AM WHEN I WALK INTO A RESTAURANT OR DO BUSINESS WITH A VENDOR,
9:54:08AM I ASK THEM, DOES IT COST MORE IF I USE MY CREDIT CARD?
9:54:11AM IF THEY SAY YES, I MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE PAYMENT.
9:54:15AM EITHER PAY IN CASH OR USE MY DEBIT CARD OR WRITE A CHECK
9:54:20AM BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT.
9:54:23AM I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY, WHEN WE HAD THIS, AND THIS
9:54:26AM SAYS UNANIMOUSLY YOU GUYS DECIDED TO NOT CONTINUE THE
9:54:32AM PRACTICE OF PAYING FOR PEOPLE TO USE THEIR CREDIT CARDS WITH
9:54:34AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:54:36AM WHAT HAPPENED?
9:54:36AM THIS IS TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS IN A ROW WHERE THE SHELL
9:54:45AM GAME HAS BEEN PLAYED.
9:54:47AM CITY COUNCIL SAID STOP DOING THIS, AND YET HERE WE ARE,
9:54:50AM MAYBE A YEAR LATER OR SO, GIVE OR TAKE, AND WE'RE STILL
9:54:54AM DOING THE SAME THING.
9:54:55AM NUMBER 78, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT FOR JUST A SECOND.
9:54:59AM WE TALK ABOUT SLOW ROLL.
9:55:02AM EVERYTHING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS LIKE THE LITTLE ENGINE
9:55:04AM THAT COULD.
9:55:05AM EVERYTHING MOVES SLOWLY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, UNLESS
9:55:10AM SOMEBODY NEXT DOOR WANTS IT, BECAUSE THEN IT BECOMES A
9:55:14AM JAPANESE BULLET TRAIN.
9:55:16AM WE DO HAVE FOLKS SUFFERING.
9:55:17AM I KNOW A COUPLE OF FOLKS PERSONALLY WHO APPLIED FOR THE
9:55:20AM FUNDS AND HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY WOULD RECEIVE THE FUNDS, BUT
9:55:24AM NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE WITH IT.
9:55:26AM WHERE IS THE MONEY?
9:55:29AM IF YOU GUYS SET ASIDE THE MONEY AND IT WAS A BIG SHOW, DOG
9:55:32AM AND PONY SHOW ABOUT GIVING AWAY THE MONEY, WHEN ARE PEOPLE
9:55:36AM GOING TO ACTUALLY START SEEING THE CHECKS TO HELP THEM
9:55:40AM REBUILD THEIR HOMES?
9:55:41AM YOU KNOW, MAYOR BUCKHORN DIDN'T WANT TO RAISE ANY FEES, AND
9:55:48AM IT LOOKS LIKE JANE CASTOR IS DOING THE SAME THING.
9:55:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALISON HEWITT FOLLOWED BY RON WEAVER.
9:55:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, ALISON HEWITT.
9:55:59AM QUESTION, PLEASE, BEFORE, YOU SAID THERE WAS A SHEET FOR THE
9:56:03AM PUBLIC HEARING.
9:56:04AM MY COMMENTS ARE ABOUT 63 THROUGH 65.
9:56:08AM BUT THERE WAS NO SHEET OUTSIDE.
9:56:09AM THAT'S WHY I USED A CARD.
9:56:11AM IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO SPEAK NOW OR --
9:56:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THOSE ARE NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
9:56:19AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
9:56:21AM THEY ARE BEING SET FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
9:56:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THOSE ARE RESOLUTIONS SETTING PUBLIC
9:56:27AM HEARINGS COMING IN THE FUTURE.
9:56:28AM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THEM, YOU CAN.
9:56:32AM >> YES, I'LL SPEAK EVERY TIME I COME BEFORE.
9:56:34AM APOLOGIES, IF I CAN HAVE THE TIME.
9:56:36AM I WANTED THE CLARITY.
9:56:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL RESET THE TIME STARTING NOW.
9:56:39AM >> THANK YOU.
9:56:39AM ALISON HEWITT, EAST TAMPA RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER.
9:56:42AM EVERY TIME CRP COMES UP, I WILL SPEAK BEFORE YOU BECAUSE MY
9:56:47AM CHALLENGE IS THAT OUR CRPs ARE NOT INCLUDING THE REPORTS
9:56:52AM AND WHAT HAS COME THE YEARS BEFORE.
9:56:54AM HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT HAS WORKED?
9:56:56AM HOW DO WE KNOW HOW WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY?
9:56:58AM HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT IS SUCCESSFUL.
9:57:00AM I ALSO WANT TO SAY, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION.
9:57:03AM WHAT IS BEING DONE IS THE CRPs ARE BECOMING STAFF
9:57:07AM RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THROWN OUT THE ORIGINAL
9:57:12AM CRPs AND THEY ARE STARTING AGAIN.
9:57:14AM WHEN THEY COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THEY ARE PROVIDING,
9:57:16AM THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
9:57:18AM GIVE US YOUR OPINION, BUT NOT A REAL CRP.
9:57:22AM MY BIGGEST FEAR, ONE EXAMPLE FOR EAST TAMPA CRP, IT WAS SAID
9:57:27AM IN THERE THAT THROUGH PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT IN THE SLUM AND
9:57:30AM BLIGHT, BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY, WORK WITH
9:57:33AM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
9:57:35AM THEY HAVE NOT DONE THAT.
9:57:36AM THEY ARE NOW DOING THAT NOW.
9:57:38AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAYS IN THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T
9:57:41AM WANT GENTRIFICATION.
9:57:42AM WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
9:57:44AM AS THESE CRPs ARE COMING BEFORE YOU, THEY ARE NOT
9:57:47AM PROVIDING YOU ANY DATA ON WHETHER TO REMOVE SLUM AND BLIGHT,
9:57:52AM WHETHER IT ADVANCE THE MEASURABLE OUTCOMES, NOTHING.
9:57:55AM WITHOUT ANY DATA OR ACCOUNTABILITY OR COMMUNITY INFORMED
9:58:00AM EVALUATION, THESE NEW UPDATES TO THE CRP ARE JUST SOMEBODY
9:58:03AM WRITING A PLAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE COMMUNITY INPUT.
9:58:06AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS IF
9:58:10AM WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SAY THAT, OKAY, FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS
9:58:13AM IN EAST TAMPA, THIS HAS WORKED, THIS HAS NOT WORKED, THIS IS
9:58:17AM THE DIRECTION TO GO.
9:58:19AM IF WE HAVE A WHOLE NEW DIRECTION, HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT IS
9:58:22AM WORKING?
9:58:22AM WE HAVE LIMITED TIME.
9:58:23AM THEY ARE ALL SUNSETTING.
9:58:25AM WE NEED TO BE MORE INTENTIONAL IN MAKING SURE WE ARE MORE
9:58:30AM TRANSPARENT ABOUT WE ARE CONTINUING ON WITH THIS PART OF THE
9:58:34AM CRP BECAUSE IT HAS WORKED.
9:58:36AM WE ARE CHANGING IT BECAUSE IT HAS NOT WORKED.
9:58:39AM THAT IS NOT PROVIDED TO YOU.
9:58:40AM THAT HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:58:42AM AND YOU HAVE THESE NEW PLANS.
9:58:44AM I ASK YOU, BEFORE YOU START APPROVING THE CRPs THAT
9:58:47AM SOMEONE REPORTS TO YOU ON WHETHER OR NOT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE
9:58:50AM FOR YEARS BEFORE, ARE THEY ACTUALLY BEING EFFECTIVE.
9:58:55AM I HAVE THESE COMMENTS ALSO IN WRITING.
9:59:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:59:07AM RON WEAVER FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE SMITH.
9:59:10AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:59:11AM RON WEAVER, 4403 WEST DALE AVENUE.
9:59:15AM I RISE ON THE OCCASION OF ITEMS 53 AND 54 WHICH RELATE TO
9:59:19AM THE ART SPACE.
9:59:20AM DESPERATELY NEEDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR ARTISTS.
9:59:22AM TAMPA ARTIST NAMED JANET ECKLEMAN WAS IN BALI AND LOST ALL
9:59:26AM OF HER PAINT.
9:59:27AM SHE RESORTED INSTEAD TO ALL THE FABRICS WHICH MADE HER A
9:59:31AM CELEBRATED EXPERIENTIAL ARTIST IN THE WORLD INCLUDING THE
9:59:35AM MAJOR ARCHITECTURE AT PORT OF PORTUGAL AND GATES FOUNDATION
9:59:38AM ENTRY, SCULPTURE.
9:59:40AM TAMPA ARTISTS RECEIVE THE HELPING HAND FROM THE FOLKS WHO
9:59:44AM REACHED OUT TO HER.
9:59:45AM WE MUST HELP OUR STARVING ARTISTS, MUST PROVIDE THEM
9:59:48AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ITEMS 53 AND 54.
9:59:51AM RAY CHARLES WROTE HIS FIRST SONG IN TAMPA.
9:59:53AM TAMPA RED CAME TO TAMPA BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE COULD
9:59:57AM FIND HOUSING IN ALL OF FLORIDA WHEN HE LOST HIS PARENTS.
10:00:00AM WE MUST REACH OUT A HELPING HAND TO OUR ARTISTS.
10:00:03AM IN ALABAMA, CORPORAL LEE LEFT ALABAMA IN 1949 AND WENT TO
10:00:08AM NEW YORK AND WORKED AT TWA AS RESERVATION CLERK.
10:00:12AM SOME OF HER FRIENDS NOTICED SHE HAD THIS WRITING ABILITY BUT
10:00:16AM SHE WAS FULL-TIME RESERVATION IN NEW YORK CITY.
10:00:19AM THEY GAVE HER ONE-YEAR SALARY LIKE HER TWA RESERVATION SO
10:00:23AM SHE COULD WRITE TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD.
10:00:26AM THE MOST TELLING PIECE OF JUSTICE, INEQUALITY AND
10:00:31AM SENSITIVITY OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE SOMEBODY
10:00:34AM REACHED OUT A HELPING HAND TO ARTISTS.
10:00:36AM PLEASE REACH OUT A HELPING HAND TO THE ARTISTS OF TAMPA.
10:00:40AM 1509 CREATIVES WHO HAVE BEEN SURVEYED IN TAMPA.
10:00:44AM 71% OF THEM ARE MAKING 80% OR LESS OF THE AMI.
10:00:49AM SO IN PROVIDING THIS HOUSING TO THOSE WHO DESPERATELY NEED
10:00:52AM IT THE MOST.
10:00:53AM OF THE 1509 CREATIVE ARTISTS SURVEYED, 36% HAVEN'T MADE
10:00:59AM MONEY FROM SELLING THEIR ART.
10:01:01AM 71% OF THEM MADE LESS THAN 25% OF THEIR INCOME FROM SELLING
10:01:05AM THEIR ART.
10:01:06AM THEY DESPERATELY NEED NOT TO BE WORKING TWO JOBS SO THEY'LL
10:01:10AM NEVER GET TO THE DISCOVERY OF THEIR ART.
10:01:12AM MY DAUGHTER SANG FROM A DISTANCE, THE HOPE OF HOPES, THE
10:01:15AM LOVE OF LOVES, THE BETTE MIDLER SONG WHEN SHE FIRST SANG AT
10:01:20AM THE ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES.
10:01:21AM AND THEN AT OUR CHURCH AS A TALENT CONTEST.
10:01:24AM SUDDENLY SHE DISCOVERED HERSELF AND HER GIFT.
10:01:26AM PLEASE LET THESE TAMPA YOUNG PEOPLE, DISCOVER THEIR ART AND
10:01:33AM DISCOVER THEMSELVES BY PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO THEY
10:01:35AM DON'T HAVE TO WORK TWO JOBS AND NEVER DISCOVER THEIR ART OR
10:01:39AM THEMSELVES.
10:01:40AM THANK YOU.
10:01:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MICHELLE SMITH.
10:01:48AM >> THAT IS A LOT TO FOLLOW.
10:01:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY NEXT LEAVE, I'M GOING TO SPEAK HALF AS
10:01:53AM WELL AS RON DOES.
10:01:54AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:01:55AM GOOD MORNING.
10:01:55AM I'M MICHELLE SMITH.
10:01:56AM I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
10:01:59AM I'M HERE TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION FOR THE NUMEROUS WAYS
10:02:03AM THAT YOU ALL SUPPORT THE ARTS IN TAMPA.
10:02:05AM YOU ARE CHAMPIONS FOR GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS, DANCE
10:02:12AM COMPANIES, COMMUNITY THEATER, ANCHOR ART INSTITUTIONS,
10:02:16AM INNOVATION THROUGH THE ARTS, PUBLIC SPACES AND PUBLIC ART
10:02:20AM AND GREENSPACES AND ALSO A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL BOOKSTORE.
10:02:26AM TAMPA IS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE A COUNCIL BODY AND AN
10:02:32AM ADMINISTRATION THAT GETS IT.
10:02:34AM A CITY THAT IS SATURATED WITH ARTS AND CULTURE IS A KEY
10:02:38AM INDICATOR OF THE ECONOMIC STRENGTH, VITALITY, STABILITY, AND
10:02:44AM TOLERANCE.
10:02:46AM ONE FOUNDATION OF A THRIVING ARTS ECOSYSTEM IS THE ABILITY
10:02:49AM FOR CULTURAL WORKERS TO LIVE IN THE CITY THAT THEY SERVE.
10:02:53AM SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT IN RECENT
10:02:56AM YEARS.
10:02:57AM FOUR MONTHS AFTER THE CREATION OF THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE,
10:03:00AM WE WERE ASKED BY A GROUP OF EAGER ARTS LEADERS TO TAKE ON
10:03:04AM THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CARRYING FORWARD THEIR ESTABLISHED
10:03:07AM NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TO TURN A GREAT IDEA INTO
10:03:11AM REALITY.
10:03:12AM WE HAVE SINCE SECURED A GENEROUS COMMITMENT OF LAND
10:03:16AM DONATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNTY, HAVE BEEN USED TO
10:03:19AM CONCEPTUALIZE THE SPACE.
10:03:21AM WE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT WHICH CLOSES THE FUNDING
10:03:25AM GAP OF WHAT'S NECESSARY TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD WITH ART
10:03:29AM SPACE PROJECTS IN YBOR CITY.
10:03:30AM THIS BUILDING WILL AFFORDABLY HOUSE AT LEAST 60 ARTISTS
10:03:35AM ACROSS MULTIPLE INDUSTRIES, PROVIDING THEM WITH BOTH A HOME
10:03:39AM AND A WORKPLACE TO HONE THEIR CRAFT IN THE COMPANY OF A
10:03:43AM DIVERSE COLLECTIVE OF CREATIVES.
10:03:44AM THIS UNIQUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SOLUTION REVERBERATES A
10:03:49AM POSITIVE IMPACT BEYOND JUST DISTRICT 5.
10:03:52AM INTO ALL CORNERS OF THE CITY, HELPING TO PRESERVE WHAT MAKES
10:03:56AM TAMPA SPECIAL, AND MAGNETIZE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE
10:04:00AM ENTIRE REGION.
10:04:01AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST IN THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE AND ART
10:04:05AM SPACE PROJECTS AND TO THE NUMEROUS ARTISTS WHO HAVE
10:04:09AM ENVISIONED THIS WONDERFUL IDEA.
10:04:12AM THANK YOU.
10:04:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPEAKING OF ART SPACE, NEXT SPEAKER IS
10:04:15AM NEIL GOBIOFF.
10:04:17AM AFTER THAT, WILL BE ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:04:24AM >> NEIL GOBIOFF, PRESIDENT OF THE GOBIOFF FOUNDATION AND
10:04:27AM BOARD MEMBER OF THE TAMPA ARTS ALLIANCE.
10:04:28AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND EXPRESSED GRATITUDE FOR YOUR
10:04:32AM CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE ART SPACE PROJECT.
10:04:35AM FIVE YEARS AGO, A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS GOT TOGETHER AROUND
10:04:37AM THIS IDEA OF GETTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILT FOR CREATIVES
10:04:42AM HERE IN TAMPA.
10:04:43AM THEY WORKED WITH -- INVITED ART SPACE PROJECTS HERE TO
10:04:47AM TAMPA, THAT LED TO A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOLLOWED BY THE ARTS
10:04:51AM MARKET SURVEY THAT RON WEAVER SO ELOQUENTLY REFERENCED.
10:04:54AM AND DEMONSTRATED A DEFINITE NEED FOR THAT TYPE OF A BUILDING
10:05:00AM HERE.
10:05:00AM AS MICHELLE SAID, WE THEN WERE ABLE TO FIND A COMMITMENT OF
10:05:04AM LAND FROM DARRYL SHAW.
10:05:05AM I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE FOR HELPING US GET TO
10:05:09AM THE NEXT STEP.
10:05:10AM A MOMENTOUS MILESTONE FOR US.
10:05:12AM I LOOK FORWARD TO THE BUILDING BEING BUILT.
10:05:14AM YOU GUYS HELPING KEEP THE ARTISTS IN YBOR.
10:05:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:05:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO.
10:05:21AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:05:23AM YOU'LL PASS?
10:05:24AM SO NEXT SPEAKER IS BY SHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY, FOLLOWED BY
10:05:30AM PASTOR WILLIAMS.
10:05:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:05:36AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:05:38AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN OBSERVATION.
10:05:40AM YOU USUALLY HAVE IT TYPED OUT AS PEOPLE SPEAK.
10:05:43AM IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO UNDERSTAND AND HEAR THE SPEAKERS THAT
10:05:47AM WAS ON THE PHONE THIS MORNING.
10:05:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU NOT SEE THE TYPE UP THERE NOW?
10:05:51AM >> NO.
10:05:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON OURS WE CAN.
10:05:55AM CCTV, THE CAMERA FACING THE AUDIENCE -- CAN YOU ALL SEE IT
10:05:59AM BACK THERE?
10:06:02AM >> YES.
10:06:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS THE ONE TV IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM.
10:06:05AM >> I CAME SPECIFICALLY FOR ONE REASON TODAY, AND THAT IS TO
10:06:09AM SPEAK ABOUT MS. MARY.
10:06:10AM MS. MARY, WHO IS A WONDERFUL WOMAN, AND I KNOW SHE'S
10:06:15AM WATCHING, AND FOR HER TO HAVE DONE 63 YEARS, AND I THINK
10:06:18AM I'VE BEEN A PART OF QUITE A FEW OF THOSE YEARS, BUT SHE'S
10:06:21AM BEEN OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEE, SOMEONE THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
10:06:27AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITHOUT HER, CHARLIE,
10:06:31AM BUT SHE IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ALWAYS MADE YOU FEEL
10:06:34AM WELCOME.
10:06:35AM IF YOU NEEDED INFORMATION, SHE DIDN'T HESITATE TO GIVE IT TO
10:06:39AM YOU.
10:06:40AM FOR 63 YEARS, THAT'S TO BE COMMENDED.
10:06:42AM I'M ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN GIVING THEM THE
10:06:47AM FLOWERS WHILE THEY CAN LIVE AND SMELL THEM.
10:06:50AM NOT WHEN THEY ARE DEAD AND GONE AND SAY ALL THESE ACCOLADES.
10:06:54AM I'VE NEVER SEEN HER WITH A FROWN, MEAN WORD.
10:07:00AM ALWAYS A SMILE.
10:07:02AM TO COME HERE EVERY DAY, THAT IS A CHALLENGE AND DO THE WORK
10:07:06AM SHE'S DONE.
10:07:07AM I WANT TO COMMEND HER AND TELL HER CONGRATULATIONS ON HER
10:07:11AM WELL-DESERVED RETIREMENT.
10:07:13AM I KNOW HER HUSBAND IS GOING TO BE GLAD SHE'S HOME.
10:07:17AM I KNOW HE'S BEEN COUNTING DOWN THE DAYS TO HER RETIREMENT.
10:07:20AM SO WE CAN -- I JUST WANT TO WISH THEM WELL AND LET HER KNOW
10:07:25AM THAT I AS A CITIZEN OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS APPRECIATED
10:07:29AM HER LONG SERVICE TO -- HER LOYAL SERVICE TO THIS CITY.
10:07:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, BISHOP.
10:07:35AM PASTOR WILLIAMS, YOU ARE NEXT.
10:07:38AM FOLLOWED BY REVEREND JACQUELYN COFFEE LEEKS.
10:07:48AM >> APPRECIATE YOU.
10:07:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, PASTOR.
10:07:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:07:52AM MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS, LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET,
10:07:58AM PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
10:08:00AM I'M GOING TO APPLAUD WHAT YOU DID TO THE YOUNG MAN PULLING
10:08:08AM HIM OUT OF HERE.
10:08:09AM YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE PEOPLE OF COLOR GOT TO
10:08:13AM UNDERSTAND, THEY DO THIS -- ALL THE TIME.
10:08:17AM YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT WE GOT GOD ON OUR SIDE.
10:08:22AM DELIVER ME, O LORD, FROM THE EVIL.
10:08:29AM PRESERVE ME FROM THE VILE OF MEN, MISCHIEF IN THEIR HEARTS.
10:08:41AM CONTINUE AS THEY GATHER FOR WAR.
10:08:45AM THEY HAVE SHARPENED THEIR TONGUE LIKE A SERPENT.
10:08:51AM POISON IS ON THEIR LIPS.
10:08:53AM KEEP ME, O LORD, FROM THE HANDS OF THE WICKED.
10:09:00AM PRESERVE ME FROM THE VIOLENT MEN WHO HAVE PURCHASED TO
10:09:04AM OVERTHROW MY -- THE PROUD -- I SAY UNTO THE LORD MY GOD,
10:09:27AM HEAR THE VOICE OF MY SUPPLICATION.
10:09:35AM GOD, GRANT, O LORD, FURTHER NOT THE WICKED.
10:09:47AM AS FOR THE HEAD OF THOSE THAT COME PAST ME ABOUT, LET
10:09:56AM BURNING COAL FALL UPON THEM.
10:09:59AM LET THEM BE CAST INTO THE FIRE, INTO THE DEEP PIT THAT THEY
10:10:07AM RISE UP NOT AGAIN.
10:10:09AM LET NOT THE EVIL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE EARTH.
10:10:14AM EVIL SHALL HUNT NOT THE VIOLENT MEN BUT OVERTHROW HIM.
10:10:18AM I KNOW THAT THE LORD WILL MAINTAIN THE CALL OF THE RISING
10:10:28AM POOR.
10:10:29AM GIVE THANKS TO UNTO THE LORD AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.
10:10:34AM THE REASON I'M READING THIS HERE, I THANK GOD FOR ALL OF YOU
10:10:40AM ALL.
10:10:40AM BUT WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE'VE BEEN MISTREATED MANY, MANY
10:10:47AM YEARS, AND WHEN YOU DO IT TO US IN PUBLIC, WE GOT TO COME
10:10:51AM BACK AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE STAND.
10:10:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, PASTOR.
10:10:55AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
10:10:57AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:10:57AM REVEREND JACQUELINE COFFIE-LEEKS FOLLOWED BY REVA IMAN.
10:11:17AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:11:19AM MY NAME IS JACQUELINE COFFIE-LEEKS.
10:11:21AM I AM A FOURTH GENERATION RESIDENT OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:11:26AM DAUGHTER OF THE LATE RONALD COFFIE SENIOR AND MARILYN
10:11:28AM STREETER.
10:11:29AM I CURRENTLY SERVE AS OUTREACH PASTOR AT 34th STREET OF GOD
10:11:33AM UNDER BISHOP THOMAS SCOTT IN EAST TAMPA AND WORK AS
10:11:36AM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD OF
10:11:39AM PROMISE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:11:41AM DURING THE AFTERNOON SEGMENT OF JULY 17 CITY COUNCIL
10:11:43AM MEETING, AFTER MOST ATTENDEES HAD DEPARTED AND AGENDA NEARLY
10:11:47AM COMPLETED, MS. FEELEY PROVIDED A BRIEF UPDATE OF THE
10:11:52AM PROGRESS AND FUTURE DIRECTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
10:11:54AM THE MENTION OF FLORIDA AVENUE AND BIRD PROMPTED A 15-MINUTE
10:11:59AM HEARTFELT DISCUSSION DURING WHICH THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS
10:12:02AM CONSENSUS THAT MORE CAN BE DONE FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:12:06AM AS I WATCHED WITH TEARS RUNNING DOWN MY FACE AS EACH OF YOU
10:12:09AM COMMENTED ON THE ABSENCE OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL AND SEVERAL
10:12:13AM THOUGHTS OCCURRED TO ME.
10:12:15AM THE FIRST IS I NEED TO GO AND INFORM THEM.
10:12:17AM THE SECOND WAS LANGUAGE CARRIES SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE.
10:12:21AM TERMS SUCH AS FORGOTTEN, POOREST, AND NO CIVIC MOVEMENT
10:12:25AM HIGHLIGHTED THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY REPRESENTATION HERE
10:12:28AM AT THE MEETING.
10:12:29AM WE AGREE THAT IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR RESIDENTS TO ENGAGE IN
10:12:33AM COMMUNITY EFFORTS AND PARTICIPATE IN THE STRUCTURED PROCESS
10:12:37AM ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY, INCLUDING WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD
10:12:40AM ENFORCEMENT INITIATIVE AND ENHANCEMENT INITIATIVES WHICH WE
10:12:43AM WORK CLOSELY WITH MR. FRANK CRUMB, ALL OF THE CITY
10:12:46AM DEPARTMENTS AND HAVING CITY OFFICIALS AND CITY ON OUR BOARD.
10:12:52AM MS. HOLMES SERVED ON THE BOARD SINCE THE INCEPTION.
10:12:55AM WE KNOW IT IS IMPORTANT TO BUILD CAPACITY WITHIN OUR
10:12:59AM COMMUNITY.
10:12:59AM MY DEFINITION OF CIVIC ENGAGEMENT ISN'T JUST SHOWING UP AT
10:13:02AM EVERY MEETING TO YELL AT YOU ALL DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:13:05AM HOWEVER, I WATCH EVERY MEETING AND I'M WORKING DURING THE
10:13:08AM MEETINGS TO BUILD SUSTAINABILITY, TO BUILD THINGS AMONG OUR
10:13:11AM RESIDENTS AND PARTNERS TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH CITY
10:13:13AM DEPARTMENTS, OUR PARKS AND REC, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND FIRST
10:13:16AM RESPONDERS TO BRIDGE THE GAP.
10:13:18AM WE HAVE THE DATA TO SHOW IT WORKS.
10:13:21AM YES, THERE IS ALWAYS MORE TO DO.
10:13:23AM I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU ALL ARE COMMITTED TO DOING MORE.
10:13:26AM WE WANT TO DO IT TOGETHER.
10:13:29AM TIME, TALENT, AND TREASURE.
10:13:31AM WE MAINTAIN THAT EACH DISTRICT SHOULD HAVE AN ELECTED
10:13:34AM OFFICIAL THAT IS COMMITTED TO STAYING INFORMED ABOUT ALL
10:13:38AM COMMUNITIES WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT, TO COMMUNICATE RELEVANT
10:13:41AM UPDATES AND CHALLENGES EFFECTIVELY BACK TO THE COUNCIL.
10:13:45AM JANUARY 2016, THIS CITY COUNCIL, NOT YOU ALL, BUT SOME OF
10:13:49AM YOU ALL WERE THERE, SIGNED A RESOLUTION IN YOUR HANDS THAT
10:13:51AM SUPPORTED OUR FLORIDA DESIGNATION AS A PROMISE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:13:55AM WE ARE A COMMUNITY FULL OF CIVIC ENGAGED RESIDENTS WITH
10:13:59AM PROMISE.
10:14:00AM TODAY IS JUST A SPRINGBOARD FOR THE CONVERSATION THAT WE
10:14:03AM NEED TO HAVE AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT WITH YOU.
10:14:05AM THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE.
10:14:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS MORNING.
10:14:10AM GOOD MORNING.
10:14:10AM REVA IMAN -- DID I BUTCHER YOUR LAST NAME.
10:14:16AM >> I'M REVA IMAN.
10:14:19AM I'M HERE ABOUT ZION.
10:14:23AM IF YOU WERE LISTENING, MICHAEL RANDOLPH WAS SPEAKING EARLIER
10:14:26AM OF ZION, THE FORGOTTEN.
10:14:28AM PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE.
10:14:33AM PAST, THE FORGOTTEN.
10:14:35AM I'VE BEEN HERE MANY TIMES TO SPEAK ON ZION.
10:14:38AM THAT WAS THE PAST, THE FORGOTTEN.
10:14:41AM THE PRESENT, WE HERE NOW AND BEEN HERE PRESENTLY SEEKING
10:14:45AM HELP FROM THE CITY.
10:14:47AM IT WASN'T YOU-ALL'S FAULT THAT'S UP HERE NOW.
10:14:51AM BUT IT'S YOU ALL WHO CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE NOW OF ZION.
10:14:57AM HISTORY.
10:14:59AM HISTORY, HISTORY.
10:15:01AM YOU CAN BE PART OF HISTORY TODAY BY MAKING WHAT WAS WRONG
10:15:08AM RIGHT TODAY.
10:15:09AM FUTURE, OUR FUTURE IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD FOR THE
10:15:17AM COMMUNITY, NOT JUST FOR THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, FOR
10:15:20AM ANYONE, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
10:15:22AM I'M SEEKING BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BUDGET COMING UP THROUGH THE
10:15:26AM CITY.
10:15:26AM YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT DEAL AND STILL WORKING ON SOME THINGS
10:15:29AM RIGHT NOW.
10:15:30AM BUT I'M ASKING THAT YOU DO A LITTLE BIT MORE.
10:15:32AM IT'S GOING TO TAKE $9 MILLION TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT THAT
10:15:36AM WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
10:15:38AM THIS PROJECT IS JUST NOT FOR THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
10:15:41AM IT'S FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
10:15:43AM A CENTER.
10:15:46AM EDUCATION.
10:15:49AM USF, WE'RE SEEKING YOUR HELP WITH THAT $9 MILLION.
10:15:54AM THAT IS THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU CAN BE PART OF
10:16:01AM AND YOUR LEGACY TO HELP CORRECT WHAT THAT PAST COUNCIL DID,
10:16:05AM WHAT WAS WRONG WHEN THEY BUILT ON TOP OF THE FORGOTTEN
10:16:12AM INDIVIDUALS BURIED THERE NOW.
10:16:14AM I ASK THAT YOU DIG DEEP IN YOUR HEARTS, FIND WHAT YOU CAN
10:16:17AM FIND TO HELP US DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US
10:16:20AM TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND BECOME PART OF HISTORY OF MAKING WHAT
10:16:24AM WAS WRONG RIGHT.
10:16:26AM AND WE WILL FOREVER THANK YOU.
10:16:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS MORNING.
10:16:33AM MARTY GREEN FOLLOWED BY FRED HEARNS.
10:16:37AM GOOD MORNING.
10:16:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:16:59AM MY NAME IS MARTY WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, CITY OF
10:17:02AM TAMPA.
10:17:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE TO STATE YOUR
10:17:05AM FULL NAME, PLEASE.
10:17:07AM >> MARTY GREEN WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:17:08AM THIS IS THE ARTICLE OUT OF THE UNION HANDBOOK, TRAINING
10:17:12AM PURPOSES.
10:17:13AM TAMPA AGREED TO CONTINUE CAREER DEVELOPMENT OF PROGRAM
10:17:16AM INCLUDING EMPLOYEES' TRAINING PROGRAM FOR THE PURPOSES OF
10:17:20AM QUALIFYING CITY EMPLOYEES FOR UPWARD MOBILITY WITHIN THE
10:17:23AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:17:24AM SO SAYING THAT TO SAY THIS.
10:17:30AM I SENT OUT AN E-MAIL TO MANAGEMENT ABOUT GUYS THEY USE FROM
10:17:40AM THE TEMP SERVICE.
10:17:41AM THEY ARE USING THE SAME SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.
10:17:44AM THEY ARE NOT LEGAL.
10:17:44AM THEY ARE NOT CHECKING THEIR CREDENTIALS.
10:17:47AM I ALSO WROTE AN E-MAIL BASICALLY STATING TO THEM, TELLING
10:17:51AM THEM HOW AN OUTSIDE SOURCE BASICALLY SAYING IT IS A LANGUAGE
10:17:55AM BARRIER BETWEEN THE GUYS THEY WILL GET FROM THE TEMP
10:17:59AM SERVICE.
10:17:59AM I ALSO PUT THAT IT WILL BE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT
10:18:05AM BECAUSE THE TEMPS THAT THEY GOT, THEY DON'T HAVE MOT.
10:18:09AM THEY ARE NOT MOT CERTIFIED.
10:18:11AM TO STOP ME FROM PUTTING IT OUT BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT WAS
10:18:15AM PUBLIC SERVICE, THEY SAY IF I WRITE ANOTHER E-MAIL, I WILL
10:18:20AM BE DISCIPLINARY.
10:18:21AM TO DO THAT, I STILL KEPT WALKING AND I GOT DISCIPLINARY.
10:18:25AM I GAVE THEM THE D.O.T. RULES AND REGULATIONS OF MAINTENANCE
10:18:29AM OF TRAFFIC.
10:18:30AM YOU HAVE TO BE MOT CERTIFIED TO TOUCH ANY MOT.
10:18:34AM THE REASON WHY, IF SOMEONE PUT THE WRONG MOT OUT AND SOMEONE
10:18:38AM GET KILLED, GUESS WHO IS LIABLE, TAMPA.
10:18:40AM THEREFORE, THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT'S MORE MONEY THAT WE GOT
10:18:45AM TO PUT BACK IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE THEY FAILED TO DO THEIR
10:18:48AM JOB.
10:18:49AM SO WHEN I BROUGHT IT BACK UP TO THEM AGAIN, THEY TOLD ME
10:18:54AM THAT I WAS CRAZY.
10:18:55AM I WAS FORCED TO GO SEE DR. WOODS.
10:18:57AM THEY FORCED ME TO GO SEE A PSYCHIATRIST.
10:19:00AM SO EVERYTHING THAT THEY FELT WAS WRONG WITH ME AND I
10:19:04AM EXPLAINED TO ONE OF MY SUPERVISORS WHAT PROBLEMS I HAVE, HE
10:19:08AM BROKE THE HIPAA LAW AND WENT STRAIGHT TO THE OTHER
10:19:12AM SUPERVISOR, BRIAN ROGERS AND THEY FORCED ME TO SEE A
10:19:16AM PSYCHOLOGIST.
10:19:17AM WHY DO I HAVE TO GO?
10:19:18AM THEY SAID IF I DON'T GO, I LOSE MY JOB.
10:19:21AM SO I WAS FORCED TO GO.
10:19:24AM RECENTLY, I KEPT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MOT.
10:19:29AM THIS IS FROM THE GUY THAT PUT MOT OUT.
10:19:32AM IN A QUICK ANSWER, SO IN A QUICK ANSWER, YES, EVERYONE
10:19:37AM THAT'S WORKING THE ROLES WITH MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC MUST BE
10:19:40AM TRAINED.
10:19:41AM THOSE GUYS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HIRED THEY ARE NOT
10:19:45AM TRAINED.
10:19:45AM THEREFORE, IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY
10:19:48AM OF TAMPA WITH ALL THE ONES WE HAVE GOING ON WITH THE SEXUAL
10:19:51AM HARASSMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE WHISTLE-BLOWERS.
10:19:55AM THERE WILL BE ANOTHER LAWSUIT IF THE CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T
10:19:58AM GET HOLD OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH THE --
10:20:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:20:03AM FRED HEARNS FOLLOWED BY ALBERT COOK.
10:20:09AM >> THANK YOU.
10:20:10AM AND GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:20:12AM FRED HEARNS, 3422 MACHADO STREET IN HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS
10:20:20AM IN THE HEART OF DISTRICT FIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:20:24AM I ASKED THESE TWO YOUNG LADIES TO COME AND STAND WITH ME.
10:20:29AM YOU JUST HEARD FROM REVA IMAN, WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF
10:20:34AM THE ZION CEMETERY PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE SOCIETY, OF
10:20:37AM WHICH I'M PRESIDENT.
10:20:39AM ROBIN LOCKETT, WHO IS A MEMBER OF OUR BOARD, AND BOTH THESE
10:20:44AM YOUNG LADIES ARE FORMER RESIDENTS OF THE AREA THAT WE NOW
10:20:48AM KNOW AS ZION CEMETERY.
10:20:50AM YOU MAY RECALL, IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS SINCE THIS ISSUE BECAME
10:20:55AM PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.
10:20:56AM BECAUSE FOR SO MANY YEARS, THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW THAT THERE
10:20:59AM WAS A CEMETERY ON THIS PROPERTY WHERE THE ROBLES PARK PUBLIC
10:21:03AM HOUSING WAS BUILT IN THE 1950s, THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW IT WAS
10:21:07AM A CEMETERY WERE ALWAYS AFRAID TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE OF
10:21:10AM RETALIATION.
10:21:11AM THERE WAS NO BLACK REPRESENTATION ON CITY COUNCIL UNTIL
10:21:16AM PERRY HARVEY TOOK A SEAT THERE IN 1983.
10:21:20AM BY THEN, THAT CEMETERY WAS LIKE A 60-YEAR MEMORY.
10:21:25AM THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE LIVING WHO REMEMBER PLAYING WHEN THEY
10:21:27AM WERE CHILDREN IN THE AREA WHERE THERE WERE GRAVES.
10:21:32AM BUT THE ASK TODAY IS FINANCIAL.
10:21:34AM AND THIS IS GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN AT SOME POINT, AS
10:21:37AM WELL AS WE UNDERSTAND THE ADMINISTRATION, STATE
10:21:41AM ADMINISTRATION HAS TO DEAL WITH THIS ALSO.
10:21:43AM AS WAS JUST MENTIONED, THE PRICE TAG IS 8 OR $9 MILLION TO
10:21:49AM ACQUIRE ALL OF THE PROPERTY, PLACE IT UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF
10:21:54AM OUR NONPROFIT, ZION CEMETERY PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE
10:21:57AM SOCIETY.
10:21:58AM DEVELOP A MEMORIAL PARK THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO
10:22:03AM VISITORS, TO RESIDENTS, TO PEOPLE COMING FROM ALL OVER TO
10:22:07AM SEE WHAT SPECIAL THING HAS BEEN DONE FOR THESE BLACK PEOPLE
10:22:12AM WHO WERE BURIED, FORGOTTEN, BUILT ON TOP OF, ET CETERA,
10:22:16AM ET CETERA.
10:22:16AM ASK YOURSELF HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF YOU KNEW YOUR MOTHER WAS
10:22:20AM BURIED THERE.
10:22:22AM AND THERE WAS BUSINESS BEING CONDUCTED ON TOP OF THOSE
10:22:26AM GRAVES.
10:22:26AM PEOPLE LIVING ON TOP OF THOSE GRAVES, AND NOTHING WAS DONE
10:22:29AM ABOUT IT.
10:22:30AM WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO HELP TO RIGHT THAT WRONG.
10:22:34AM IN THE EARLY MEETINGS THAT WE HAD, WE HAD SOMEONE FROM CITY
10:22:37AM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO WOULD ATTEND EVERY MEETING.
10:22:41AM WE ALSO HAD SOMEONE FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION WITH THE
10:22:44AM CITY.
10:22:45AM WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM IN A WHILE.
10:22:46AM WE KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS WORKING ON THIS ISSUE,
10:22:50AM BUT I'M ASKING THAT YOU REQUEST A REPORT FROM THE CITY
10:22:54AM ADMINISTRATION TO UPDATE YOU ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.
10:22:58AM GWEN HENDERSON WAS WORKING WITH US, AND WE KNOW,
10:23:01AM UNFORTUNATELY, AFTER WE LOST HER, THERE WERE MANY PROJECTS
10:23:04AM THAT SHE WAS WORKING ON.
10:23:06AM THIS WAS ONE OF THEM.
10:23:07AM WE NEED FUNDING, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR ZION CEMETERY IN
10:23:12AM THIS BUDGET, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK AGAIN.
10:23:15AM THANK YOU.
10:23:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. HEARNS.
10:23:16AM ALBERT COOK, FOLLOWED BY VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:23:20AM ON THE TOP OF THE WOLF, YOU CAN ZOOM IT SO WE GET THE WHOLE
10:23:33AM SCREEN.
10:23:36AM >> YOU KNOW I CAN'T DO THIS.
10:23:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S JUST A LITTLE WHEEL.
10:23:39AM IT'S LOW-TECH.
10:23:44AM >> I THINK I GOT IT.
10:23:45AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:23:48AM MY NAME IS ALBERT COOK.
10:23:50AM TODAY I HAVE THE HONOR OF ADDRESSING YOU AS A MEMBER OF THE
10:23:54AM LEADERSHIP TEAM TO COMMEMORATE THE 100th ANNIVERSARY OF
10:23:58AM BOOKIE T. WASHINGTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
10:24:01AM THE SCHOOL IS NAMED IN HONOR OF BOOKER T. WASHINGTON.
10:24:04AM HE WAS BORN INTO SLAVERY IN VIRGINIA IN 1856 AND LIBERATED
10:24:09AM BY U.S. TROOPS DURING THE CIVIL WAR.
10:24:12AM IN 1881, HE BECAME THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC
10:24:15AM TUSKEGEE INSTITUTE.
10:24:17AM IN 1901, HE PUBLISHED "UP FROM SLAVERY," A BRILLIANT
10:24:22AM AUTOBIOGRAPHY DETAILING HIS RISE FROM ENSLAVEMENT TO A
10:24:28AM BECOME A PROMINENT FIGURE IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
10:24:30AM BOOKER T. WASHINGTON SCHOOL OPENED ITS DOORS IN SEPTEMBER OF
10:24:33AM 1925, ORIGINALLY SERVING BOTH JUNIOR AND SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
10:24:33AM STUDENTS.
10:24:39AM IT WAS A SEGREGATED INSTITUTION PRIMARILY ATTENDED BY THE
10:24:43AM GRANDCHILDREN OF FORMERLY ENSLAVED AFRICANS.
10:24:46AM BUT ALSO WELCOMED AFRO CUBANS IN 1925 REGARDLESS OF
10:24:52AM NATIONALITY, DARK SKINNED STUDENTS ATTENDED SEGREGATED NEGRO
10:24:57AM SCHOOLS.
10:24:57AM IN 1934, FOLLOWING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF MIDDLETON HIGH
10:25:00AM SCHOOL, BOOKER T. WASHINGTON CONTINUED AS A JUNIOR HIGH
10:25:05AM SCHOOL.
10:25:06AM IT RETAINED THIS ROLE UNTIL THE 1970s WHEN TAMPA SCHOOLS
10:25:10AM WERE DESEGREGATED AND LATER FOCUSED SOLELY ON ELEMENTARY
10:25:15AM EDUCATION.
10:25:15AM ESTEEMED EDUCATOR BLANCHE ARMWOOD, THE FIRST SUPERINTENDENT
10:25:20AM OF NEGRO SCHOOLS, PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE EDUCATION
10:25:23AM OF STUDENTS AT BOOKER T. WASHINGTON.
10:25:26AM ARMWOOD HIGH SCHOOL IN SEFFNER HONORS HER NAME.
10:25:29AM HOWARD W. BLAKE, FOR WHOM BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL IS NAMED, SERVED
10:25:33AM AS PRINCIPAL FROM 1934 UNTIL HIS DEATH IN 1954.
10:25:38AM FRED HEARNS, A DEDICATED COMMUNITY LEADER AND BLACK HISTORY
10:25:41AM CURATOR AT THE TAMPA HISTORY CENTER IS ALSO AN ALUMNUS.
10:25:45AM SO WE ARE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE A CARNIVAL FEATURING FOOD
10:25:50AM TRUCKS, FUN GAMES, AND FAMILY FRIENDLY ENTERTAINMENT ON
10:25:54AM AUGUST 6 FROM 2 TO 4 P.M.
10:25:56AM THE CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION WOULD TAKE PLACE ON SEPTEMBER 26
10:26:01AM FROM 6 TO 8 P.M. WITH DOORS OPENING AT 5.
10:26:04AM GUESTS WILL CELEBRATE THE HISTORIC CENTENNIAL, TOUR THE
10:26:10AM SCHOOL, LISTEN TO CAPTIVATING STORIES AND ENJOY A FINE
10:26:13AM DINING EXPERIENCE.
10:26:14AM FOR QUESTIONS, SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, AND INDIVIDUAL
10:26:18AM SEATING, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE PRINCIPAL, MONICA BARBER,
10:26:24AM AT MONICA.BARBER@HCPS.NET OR CALL 813-233-3720.
10:26:34AM YOU CAN ALSO SPEAK TO ME AS WELL.
10:26:36AM YOU ARE ALL INVITED.
10:26:38AM WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU THERE.
10:26:40AM THIS IS A GREAT OCCASION.
10:26:42AM YOU IMAGINE IN 100 YEARS AND WHAT THAT SCHOOL HAS SEEN, THE
10:26:46AM WORLD WARS, CIVIL RIGHTS, DESEGREGATION, EVERYTHING THAT'S
10:26:51AM SEEN.
10:26:51AM VIETNAM WAR.
10:26:52AM SO WE WELCOME ALL.
10:26:54AM THANK YOU.
10:26:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:56AM VALERIE BULLOCK FOLLOWED BY OUR LAST SPEAKER SURGRET DOSS.
10:27:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:27:05AM VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:27:07AM I'M COMING UP HERE TO SAY DO NOT APPROVE THE CITY BUDGET.
10:27:12AM SEND IT BACK.
10:27:13AM IT'S NO SENSE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GET 60% OF THE
10:27:17AM BUDGET.
10:27:18AM THAT IS TOO MUCH MONEY FOR ONE DEPARTMENT.
10:27:20AM I UNDERSTAND THEY PUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN IT THIS YEAR SO
10:27:26AM YOU CAN THINK THEY ARE SPENDING LESS MONEY, BUT THEY ARE
10:27:29AM GETTING THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY BUDGET.
10:27:31AM I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH.
10:27:33AM MOST CITY BUDGETS, THEY -- MOST CITIES SPEND 4% TO 45%.
10:27:39AM THE AVERAGE IS 23 TO 29 PERCENT.
10:27:43AM IN 2020, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS 41% OF THE BUDGET.
10:27:47AM NOW HERE IT IS 2025, IT'S 60% OF THE BUDGET.
10:27:52AM BY THE TIME 2030 COME, IT WILL BE 80% OF THE BUDGET.
10:27:56AM NO.
10:27:57AM SEND IT BACK AND CUT IT 20%.
10:28:00AM MAKE IT GO BACK TO 40%, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT MONEY IS NOT
10:28:04AM HELPING THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT.
10:28:06AM WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF POLICE PROGRAMS.
10:28:08AM IT STAYS AT THE TOP.
10:28:11AM SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO IS MAKING OVER
10:28:14AM $200,000 A YEAR.
10:28:16AM IF EVERYBODY ELSE HAVE TO CUT BACK AND HAVE TO USE WHAT WE
10:28:19AM GOT TO MAKE IT, THEY CAN, TOO.
10:28:22AM CUT THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET BY 20%.
10:28:26AM I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY,
10:28:30AM REAPPOINTING SOMEONE FOR FOUR YEARS.
10:28:32AM MOST OF THE PEOPLE AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, I THINK I WAS
10:28:36AM 18, 19 WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN PONCE De LEON PROJECT, JEROME
10:28:42AM RYANS, HE WAS OVER IT.
10:28:43AM WHEN THEY GET APPOINTED, IT IS LIFELONG APPOINTMENTS.
10:28:47AM NOTHING THEY CAN DO CAN STOP THEM FROM LOSING THAT JOB.
10:28:50AM THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP IT NO MATTER WHAT.
10:28:53AM WE SHOULD NOT HAVE LIFETIME MEMBERS OVER AT THE TAMPA
10:28:56AM HOUSING AUTHORITY.
10:28:57AM THEY NEED A FOUR-YEAR TERM, MAYOR APPOINT THEM, COME IN WITH
10:29:02AM HER.
10:29:02AM WHEN THAT MAYOR LEAVE, THEY LEAVE ALSO.
10:29:05AM BECAUSE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY IS NOT HELPING PEOPLE NO
10:29:08AM MORE.
10:29:09AM IT USED TO BE IF YOU WANT A HOUSE OR SOMEWHERE TO STAY
10:29:13AM BEFORE YOU GOT HOMELESS, YOU CAN GO TO STATE OF TAMPA
10:29:16AM HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THEY HAD EMERGENCY FUNDS.
10:29:19AM HAVE THIS RIGHT HERE WHERE THEY CAN GET YOU IN A HOUSE.
10:29:22AM RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SEEING THAT.
10:29:23AM WHEN I CALL OVER THERE, THEY TELL ME THEY ARE ONLY WORKING
10:29:28AM WITH VETERANS OR HIV PATIENTS.
10:29:30AM I HATE TO SAY IT, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DIE TO GET AN
10:29:34AM APARTMENT.
10:29:35AM REGULAR PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AN APARTMENT, TOO.
10:29:39AM NEVER MIND OUR HEALTH ISSUES.
10:29:41AM IF I'M GOING TO SCHOOL OR WORKING AT McDONALD'S AND MAKING
10:29:44AM $12 AN HOUR TO RENT A TWO-BEDROOM FOR 1600, TAMPA HOUSING
10:29:49AM AUTHORITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO STEP IN.
10:29:52AM BUT WE'VE GOTTEN SO FAR AWAY FROM HELPING PEOPLE WITH TAMPA
10:29:55AM HOUSING AUTHORITY.
10:29:56AM AND DON'T LET ME MENTION HOW MANY DOJ INVESTIGATIONS TAMPA
10:30:01AM HOUSING AUTHORITY HAVE GOTTEN.
10:30:03AM WE NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP.
10:30:05AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
10:30:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, VALERIE.
10:30:08AM SURGRET DOSS.
10:30:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:30:10AM SURGRET DOSS.
10:30:13AM I'VE UNFORTUNATELY BEEN ASKED TO BE PLEASANT THIS MORNING.
10:30:16AM SO I'LL CALIBRATE AND TAILOR MY COMMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
10:30:19AM BY THE WAY, TO THE YOUNG MAN DOCTOR, DOCTOR IS AN EARNED
10:30:27AM TITLE.
10:30:28AM I MAY BE BIAS.
10:30:29AM BROTHER IS ONE.
10:30:30AM FIRST COUSIN AND MY DAUGHTER IS ONE AS WELL.
10:30:32AM YOU EARNED IT SO CALL YOURSELF BY THAT.
10:30:36AM AND EXPECT OTHERS TO DO THE SAME THING.
10:30:38AM BUT SOME THINGS SHOULD BE INTOLERABLE IN A CIVILIZED
10:30:42AM SOCIETY.
10:30:42AM I'M BEGINNING TO WONDER HOW CIVILIZED THE CITY OF TAMPA MAY
10:30:45AM OR MAY NOT BE.
10:30:46AM WHEN I HAVE JUDGES LIKE PAUL HUEY, EMILY ANN PEACOCK,
10:30:52AM ALLOWING INSURANCE COMPANIES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ELDERLY
10:30:55AM PEOPLE AND AT THE SAME TIME WATCH ATTORNEYS AND THESE SAME
10:31:00AM INSURANCE COMPANIES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF VETERANS, IT BOTHERS
10:31:03AM ME.
10:31:03AM I CAN GO A LITTLE BIT DEEP NEAR THAT.
10:31:06AM BUT I WANTED -- MENTESNOT OUT FRONT TODAY.
10:31:12AM FOR SOME REASON THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY WHO DON'T
10:31:15AM THINK BLACK FOLKS HAVE ANY ENTITLEMENT TO THE GUARANTEES OF
10:31:18AM THE UNITED STATES AND/OR THE STATE CONSTITUTION.
10:31:21AM I'M HERE TO TELL EVERYBODY WATCHING, EVEN BLACK FOLKS AFRAID
10:31:24AM OF WHITE PEOPLE FOR SOME STRANGE REASON TO ASSERT YOUR
10:31:28AM RIGHTS.
10:31:28AM WHITE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE -- AND ESPECIALLY I'M NOT GOING TO
10:31:31AM USE THE WORDS YOU KNOW I LOVE TO USE, SOME OF YOU WHITE
10:31:36AM FOLKS, OTHER KIND OF WHITE FOLKS, RUN CRAZY AND RUNNING THE
10:31:40AM COUNTRY CRAZY.
10:31:41AM BUT THESE RIGHTS THAT THE CONSTITUTION PROTECTS EVERYBODY
10:31:44AM SHOULD KNOW, AND NO ONE SHOULD FEEL AFRAID BECAUSE THEY ARE
10:31:48AM GOING TO DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO ANYWAY.
10:31:50AM PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE US, ARE GOING TO MISTREAT US.
10:31:54AM PEOPLE -- SOME PEOPLE TURN BLIND EYE EVEN IN CERTAIN
10:31:57AM POSITIONS.
10:31:57AM WE NEED TO STOP USING TITLES LIKE HONORABLE FOR CERTAIN
10:32:01AM JUDGES.
10:32:02AM I ALSO GAVE YOU SOMETHING LAST WEEK.
10:32:04AM I KNOW THAT ATTORNEYS HAVE OBLIGATIONS THAT WHEN SOMEONE
10:32:08AM RAISES A COMPLAINT ABOUT ANOTHER ATTORNEY OR A JUDGE THAT
10:32:11AM YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT EITHER IT'S LOOKED
10:32:16AM INTO OR AN INVESTIGATION IS PROMPTLY STARTED AS WELL AS THE
10:32:19AM BOARD HAS.
10:32:20AM I'VE BEEN REAL CLEAR WHEN I'VE MADE INDICATIONS ABOUT
10:32:24AM PEOPLE.
10:32:24AM THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, TELL THEM TO SUE ME.
10:32:27AM BUT THE REALITY IS, THERE ARE THINGS GOING IN THIS CITY THAT
10:32:32AM YOU ALL SHOULD BE BOTHERED BY.
10:32:34AM BLACK PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE NO PROBLEM ADDRESSING BLACK
10:32:37AM PEOPLE, DEMOCRATS, ANY OTHER POLITICAL PARTY SHOULD FEEL THE
10:32:42AM SAME WAY ABOUT EVERYBODY.
10:32:46AM I DID REMAIN CALIBRATED, ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE.
10:32:51AM I WILL BE PLEASANT AND REMAIN PLEASANT.
10:32:54AM WHAT YOU ALL DID AS FAR AS VIOLATING SOMEBODY'S RIGHTS WITH
10:32:58AM THE FIRST AMENDMENT BOTHERS ME.
10:33:00AM AS A PERSON WILLING TO DIE SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD ASSERT
10:33:02AM THOSE RIGHTS.
10:33:03AM THAT BEING SAID, SHOUT OUT TO THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:33:10AM YOU ALL TAKE CARE.
10:33:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:12AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:33:14AM WE'LL MOVE ON TO BOARD AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS.
10:33:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU ASK FOR ANY RECONSIDERATION OF
10:33:22AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:33:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
10:33:26AM RECONSIDER LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:33:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S AFTER APPOINTMENTS.
10:33:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S AFTER APPOINTMENTS.
10:33:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S MY FAULT.
10:33:35AM WHY DON'T WE DO THE APPOINTMENTS.
10:33:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT COULD HAVE GONE EITHER WAY.
10:33:43AM WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH YOU.
10:33:44AM WE ARE ON BOARD AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS.
10:33:47AM ITEM 1 IS THE RESOLUTION APPROVING, CONSENTING TO AND
10:33:50AM CONFIRMING THE REAPPOINTMENT BY THE MAYOR OF LORENA HARDWICK
10:33:56AM AS MEMBER OF THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR A FOUR-YEAR
10:33:59AM TERM.
10:34:00AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:34:04AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:34:06AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:34:08AM OPPOSED?
10:34:11AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
10:34:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION?
10:34:15AM I SUPPORT LORENA WHO HAS BEEN GREAT IN LOTS OF WAYS.
10:34:22AM I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT TERM LIMITS.
10:34:25AM ARE YOU AWARE IF THERE ARE TERM LIMITS ON THESE POSITIONS
10:34:28AM FROM A CITY COUNCIL POINT OF VIEW?
10:34:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH THIS PARTICULAR POSITION?
10:34:31AM I CAN'T SPEAK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND SAY I KNOW THE
10:34:35AM ANSWER.
10:34:35AM I CAN GET YOU THE ANSWER.
10:34:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, BUT WE ARE THAT.
10:34:40AM IF WE DIDN'T WANT SOMEONE TO CONTINUE ON, WE ARE THE TERM
10:34:47AM LIMIT.
10:34:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST THINK THAT MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT
10:34:50AM IN NEW BUSINESS, BUT WE OUGHT TO IMPOSE TERM LIMITS, LIKE NO
10:34:55AM MORE THAN TWO TERMS FOR ANYBODY WE APPOINT.
10:34:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS CONCERNING ME AS WELL.
10:34:58AM CAN I SUGGEST ONE OF THE COUNCILPERSONS BRING THAT BACK FOR
10:35:02AM NEW BUSINESS FOR DISCUSSION?
10:35:03AM ITEM NUMBER 2 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING, CONSENTING TO AND
10:35:09AM CONFIRMING THE REAPPOINTMENT BY THE MAYOR OF JOHN DOUGLAS
10:35:13AM SHIELDS AS A MEMBER OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BUILDING
10:35:15AM BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
10:35:16AM MOTION FROM MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM VIERA.
10:35:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:35:19AM AYE.
10:35:20AM OPPOSED?
10:35:20AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS.
10:35:22AM ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT REQUESTS RECONSIDERATION OF
10:35:29AM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:35:31AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:35:32AM STEVE MICHELINI.
10:35:34AM I'M HERE REQUESTING THAT VACATING 25-10 FOR 3203 CORDELIA
10:35:41AM STREET BE RECONSIDERED.
10:35:42AM THERE WAS INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT AVAILABLE DURING YOUR
10:35:46AM HEARING, WHICH I THINK IS QUITE DRAMATIC.
10:35:50AM I THINK THAT IT DESERVES RECONSIDERATION.
10:35:55AM YOU RECEIVED AN E-MAIL, 16 OF THE 19 PROPERTIES THAT ABUT
10:36:01AM THIS PROPERTY, ABUT THIS ALLEY, HAVE JOINED IN THIS
10:36:06AM PETITION.
10:36:07AM I CAN'T GET TO SOLVING THE OTHER PROBLEMS REGARDING
10:36:11AM ENCROACHMENTS WITHOUT A VACATING.
10:36:14AM WE SIMPLY ARE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
10:36:18AM AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS ALL THESE OTHER PROPERTIES ARE NOW
10:36:20AM AT RISK.
10:36:22AM WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU RECONSIDER YOUR
10:36:28AM ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN ON THE 17th AND ALLOW THIS TO MOVE
10:36:31AM FORWARD SO WE CAN RESOLVE THESE OTHER ISSUES.
10:36:34AM AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THERE ARE 11 PROPERTIES THAT ENCROACH
10:36:39AM ON THIS ALLEY, AND THEY POTENTIALLY COULD BE AFFECTED BY
10:36:44AM SUBSEQUENT CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.
10:36:47AM EACH ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY.
10:36:49AM I THINK IT WILL END UP TYING THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITY
10:36:52AM STAFF.
10:36:53AM I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT COMPREHENSIVELY.
10:36:56AM I CAN'T GET TO THAT WITHOUT YOUR ASSISTANCE IN
10:37:00AM RECONSIDERATION.
10:37:01AM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT.
10:37:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, COULD YOU REMIND COUNCIL OF
10:37:04AM WHO ON COUNCIL COULD MAKE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION?
10:37:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: RULE 4-E, MOTION TO RECONSIDER AN ACTION OF
10:37:15AM COUNCIL SHALL BE MADE ONLY BY A MEMBER WHO PREVIOUSLY VOTED
10:37:18AM ON THE PREVAILING SIDE AND SHALL BE MADE AT THE SAME MEETING
10:37:22AM OR AT THE FIRST SUBSEQUENT REGULAR MEETING.
10:37:24AM I BELIEVE THIS WAS ON THE 17th OF JULY.
10:37:30AM SO THIS IS THE FIRST REGULAR MEETING.
10:37:32AM AND A SECOND TO THE MOTION MAY BE MADE BY ANY MEMBER.
10:37:36AM MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE THE VOTE, OR THE CLERK HAS THE VOTES
10:37:42AM ON THAT.
10:37:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHICH COUNCILPERSONS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO
10:37:45AM MAKE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION?
10:37:48AM >>THE CLERK: ANY COUNCIL MEMBER EXCEPT FOR MIRANDA.
10:37:51AM HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO VOTED NO.
10:37:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: I VOTED AGAINST THIS PROJECT, AND I DON'T
10:37:56AM KNOW HOW I'LL VOTE IN THE FUTURE.
10:37:58AM BASED ON NEW INFORMATION, I'M WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO
10:38:02AM RECONSIDER.
10:38:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:38:04AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:38:07AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:38:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I COMPLETELY DISAGREE BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS,
10:38:11AM PEOPLE DID SOMETHING ILLEGALLY, AND WE TALKED ABOUT
10:38:14AM FORGIVENESS IS NOT PERMISSION.
10:38:16AM AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING.
10:38:19AM I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE AND I HOPE WE DON'T RECONSIDER THIS
10:38:24AM BECAUSE FOLKS NEED TO SOLVE THEIR CODE ISSUES BEFORE WE
10:38:29AM CONSIDER VACATING, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
10:38:32AM AND THAT'S, YEAH, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THAT.
10:38:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:38:39AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:38:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY RATIONALE IS THE SAME.
10:38:43AM I DON'T KNOW HOW I'LL VOTE ON THE SECOND TIME AND SO FORTH,
10:38:46AM BUT IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE
10:38:48AM RELEVANT TO IT, I WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER IT.
10:38:51AM I'LL GO WITH AN OPEN MIND.
10:38:52AM FOR ME, THAT IS THE REASONABLE THING TO DO AS FAR AS I SEE
10:38:55AM IT.
10:38:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NOTHING ELSE, I'LL CLOSE THE
10:38:59AM DISCUSSION.
10:39:01AM I FEEL EXACTLY KIND OF THE SAME WAY, BUT I'M WILLING TO
10:39:04AM HEAR, IF THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERED
10:39:07AM THE FIRST TIME AROUND, I'M WILLING TO STEP FORWARD AND HEAR
10:39:10AM THE EVIDENCE, NOT THAT I'M SAYING I'LL VOTE DIFFERENTLY THAN
10:39:14AM THE LAST TIME.
10:39:14AM WILLING TO HEAR THE EVIDENCE.
10:39:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO WE HAVE TO HEAR THE EVIDENCE RIGHT NOW?
10:39:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, IT WOULD COME BACK UP.
10:39:20AM THIS IS JUST A MOTION FOR IT TO COME BEFORE US.
10:39:23AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:39:25AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:39:26AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:39:28AM MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A ROLL CALL.
10:39:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:39:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:39:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:39:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
10:39:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
10:39:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:39:40AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
10:39:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TO NOTICE THIS AND HAS TO BE SET.
10:39:50AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I WAS GOING TO ASK, THIS IS GOING TO TAKE
10:39:53AM A WHILE TO RESOLVE THIS.
10:39:54AM SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT THIS BE SET AT LEAST SIX MONTHS OUT.
10:40:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULDN'T THAT BE --
10:40:03AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: COULD BE UP TO THE STAFF AS WELL.
10:40:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'LL WORK WITH STAFF TO GET THAT SET.
10:40:08AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
10:40:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE COULD SET A DATE TO HOLD IT.
10:40:18AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: HOW ABOUT FEBRUARY?
10:40:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
10:40:25AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO SET THE
10:40:29AM RECONSIDERATION FOR FEBRUARY 5, 2026 AT 5:01 P.M. AT 301
10:40:35AM EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
10:40:36AM IT WOULD BE 10:30 A.M.
10:40:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 10:30 A.M.
10:40:41AM FEBRUARY 5, 2026.
10:40:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT MARTIN SHELBY SAID.
10:40:47AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
10:40:49AM MANISCALCO.
10:40:50AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:40:52AM OPPOSED?
10:40:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NAY.
10:40:54AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
10:40:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: -- PROPERLY NOTICED --
10:41:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK
10:41:05AM MENTIONED ARE ALSO COMMENTS THAT I MADE AT THE LAST MEETING.
10:41:08AM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THIS OUTSIDE OF THIS
10:41:11AM ROOM, I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME SYSTEMIC ISSUES, AS MANY
10:41:16AM OF US HAVE OBSERVED IN WEST TAMPA IN PARTICULAR.
10:41:18AM IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT.
10:41:20AM I DON'T KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, MAYBE IN NEW BUSINESS
10:41:24AM IF YOU WANT TO WORKSHOP THIS AT SOME POINT.
10:41:27AM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE RESOLVE THIS PROBLEM WHERE WE GET
10:41:30AM REPORTS CONSTANTLY OF ILLEGAL STRUCTURES ALL OVER THE CITY.
10:41:33AM THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW IMMIGRANTS IN WEST TAMPA, AND MAYBE
10:41:39AM THEY DON'T KNOW THE RULES OR WHATEVER.
10:41:41AM THERE MAY BE A COMMUNICATION ISSUE.
10:41:42AM MAY BE AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
10:41:44AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:41:44AM IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD ADDRESS THIS SYSTEMICALLY SO
10:41:47AM WE'RE NOT GOING PROJECT BY PROJECT.
10:41:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY NAME WAS MENTIONED, LET ME SAY THIS.
10:41:53AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS SAID NOW BY COUNCIL MEMBER
10:41:57AM CARLSON, YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF IMMIGRANTS.
10:41:59AM THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE SYSTEM, AND IT'S NOT
10:42:03AM PERSONAL TO ANYONE, IS THAT WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE, AND
10:42:07AM SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING TO THE HOUSE AND YOU BUY THE HOUSE,
10:42:11AM THEY ARE GOING TO HOLD YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HOUSE.
10:42:13AM THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS HEARING, BUT I'M PUTTING IT
10:42:18AM TOGETHER, BECAUSE NO ONE TELLS YOU WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE WHAT
10:42:21AM THE LAWS ARE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE.
10:42:24AM THEY ASSUME YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
10:42:26AM WELL, SOME PEOPLE MAY ASSUME AND KNOW AND SOME PEOPLE MAY
10:42:31AM ASSUME AND DON'T KNOW.
10:42:33AM DRIVING BY EVERY DAY WHEN I COME HERE TO WORK, I DRIVE BY A
10:42:37AM DIFFERENT STREET AND I'M FOR HAVING THE ALLEYS OPEN OR CLOSE
10:42:42AM AT THE RIGHT SIZE.
10:42:43AM I DON'T THINK THERE ARE TEN ALLEYS IN WEST TAMPA THAT LOOK
10:42:46AM ALIKE.
10:42:47AM SOME ARE EIGHT FOOT WIDE WITH A TREE IN THE CENTER.
10:42:50AM SOME ARE 12-FOOT WIDE WITH A TREE IN THE CENTER.
10:42:53AM SOME MAY BE EVEN GREATER.
10:42:54AM BUT WEST TAMPA HAS GOT TO BE LOOKED AT TOTALLY AT ONE UNIT
10:42:59AM AND WHY WE'RE CLOSING OR OPENING ALLEYS AND HALF THE TIME
10:43:03AM THERE'S NO REASON THAT THE PEOPLE EVEN KNEW WHAT THE LAW
10:43:07AM WAS.
10:43:08AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG.
10:43:09AM WHAT I'M SAYING, IT'S PRACTICAL THAT YOU HAVE A SPEEDING
10:43:12AM SIGN WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE ON THE STREET AND HOW FAST YOU
10:43:16AM NEED TO GO.
10:43:17AM GET A SPEEDING TICKET, SHAME ON YOU.
10:43:19AM WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE OR SELL A HOUSE, YOU'RE NOT HELD TO ANY
10:43:22AM STANDARD.
10:43:23AM GO TO THE ATTORNEY, LET THEM HIRE AN AGENCY THAT CHECKS ALL
10:43:29AM THE RECORDS, MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO
10:43:31AM PROHIBIT YOU FROM BEING THE HOUSE IN DANGER AFTER YOU BUY IT
10:43:36AM AND THAT'S IT.
10:43:37AM AFTER THAT, WE COME IN AND SAY, HEY, IT'S YOUR FAULT BECAUSE
10:43:40AM YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
10:43:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CAN WE SAVE THIS FOR
10:43:44AM AN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AT ANOTHER MEETING?
10:43:48AM WE HAVE A NIGHT MEETING TONIGHT.
10:43:50AM AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IF EVERYBODY COULD TRY TO
10:43:53AM KEEP THEIR REMARKS SHORT, THAT INCLUDES STAFF AS THEY COME
10:43:56AM UP TODAY FOR THE NUMEROUS STAFF REPORTS WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE
10:43:59AM ALL HAVE TO BE BACK HERE AT 5:01 P.M.
10:44:01AM WE ARE GOING TO RECONSIDER.
10:44:03AM THAT HAS BEEN SET FOR FEBRUARY FOR THE RECONSIDERATION.
10:44:06AM SO WE WILL SEE YOU ALL IN FEBRUARY.
10:44:12AM ANYBODY ELSE FOR RECONSIDERATION?
10:44:13AM HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
10:44:16AM PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:44:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEMS -- [INAUDIBLE]
10:44:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND FROM
10:44:29AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:30AM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
10:44:32AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, LYNN HURTAK,
10:44:36AM 10-21.
10:44:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 10-21 NOTING THAT SPECIAL EVENT
10:44:41AM PERMIT SEASON IS HERE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE GLIMMER OF HOPE
10:44:47AM FOR COOLER WEATHER IS COMING.
10:44:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I BELIEVE
10:44:54AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:56AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:44:58AM OPPOSED?
10:44:58AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:45:00AM INFRASTRUCTURE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, COULD YOU MOVE ITEMS
10:45:02AM 22-34, EXCEPT FOR ITEM 32?
10:45:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:45:06AM I MOVE ITEMS 22-34, EXCEPT FOR ITEM 32.
10:45:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:45:12AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:45:14AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
10:45:15AM OPPOSED?
10:45:16AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:45:18AM FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:45:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: QUICK COMMENT.
10:45:21AM NUMBER 29 IS TAMPA UNION STATION.
10:45:23AM WE TALK A LOT ABOUT SLOW-WALKING THINGS.
10:45:25AM WE ON THE CRA BOARD APPROVED FUNDING FOR TAMPA UNION STATION
10:45:29AM ABOUT FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO.
10:45:30AM WHAT THIS DOCUMENT SHOWS IS THAT THERE WAS AN RFQ OR RFA IN
10:45:36AM JULY 2022.
10:45:36AM THE FIRST VERSION OF THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED IN JANUARY
10:45:39AM 2023.
10:45:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
10:45:41AM REALLY GREAT TO PULL THAT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, SINCE WE
10:45:44AM MOVED IT, CAN YOU BRING IT UP IN NEW BUSINESS.
10:45:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
10:45:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:45:48AM I'M TRYING TO MOVE THIS ALONG SINCE WE HAVE TO BE BACK AT
10:45:51AM 5:00.
10:45:52AM FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:45:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 35-39.
10:45:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:45:57AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE ITEMS 35-39.
10:46:01AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:46:02AM OPPOSED?
10:46:02AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:46:04AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN
10:46:06AM HURTAK.
10:46:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT 53 AND 54,
10:46:11AM WHICH IS THE ART SPACE.
10:46:13AM I CAN'T TELL YOU ALL THIS BECAUSE I CAN'T TALK TO YOU
10:46:17AM OFF-LINE, BUT WHEN I WAS IN MINNEAPOLIS IN MAY, I ACTUALLY
10:46:21AM MET WITH ART SPACE, AND THEY TOOK ME ON A TOUR.
10:46:24AM SINCE ART SPACE WAS FOUNDED IN MINNEAPOLIS.
10:46:26AM SO I GOT TO SEE A TOUR OF BOTH ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THEY ARE
10:46:30AM REDOING RIGHT NOW, LIKE A RECONSTRUCTION, REUSE.
10:46:33AM AND THEN I SAW NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS WHAT WE CAN EXPECT
10:46:36AM TO SEE.
10:46:37AM I DEFINITELY WANT TO -- HOPEFULLY I CAN SHARE SOME OF THOSE
10:46:41AM PHOTOS.
10:46:42AM MAYBE SEND OUT AN E-MAIL OR PUT THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
10:46:44AM BUT I ALSO WANT TO MEET WITH THE ARTS ALLIANCE AND LET THEM
10:46:48AM SEE THE PHOTOS AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT I SAW.
10:46:50AM IT'S TRULY AMAZING.
10:46:52AM LOTS OF GREAT SPACE FOR ARTISTS.
10:46:56AM I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
10:46:59AM I'M SO GLAD THAT WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT SO WE CAN HELP
10:47:02AM THEM.
10:47:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:47:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: LET ME ASK YOU A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
10:47:11AM IN THE PAST, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SHORT COMMENTS LIKE
10:47:13AM THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO PULL AN ITEM.
10:47:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK RIGHT BEFORE THE ITEM, WE MOVED
10:47:19AM ON.
10:47:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WANT US TO MAKE THE COMMENTS BEFORE WE
10:47:23AM --
10:47:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ALREADY MOVED ON.
10:47:24AM THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AND ANSWERED AND WE WERE MOVING ON.
10:47:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TWO QUICK COMMENTS AND THEN ALSO I
10:47:30AM WANT TO HAVE A COLLOQUY WITH MARTY.
10:47:33AM I WAS THE FIDUCIARY AGENT, ART SPACE IS THE ONE GETTING THE
10:47:37AM FUNDING BUT FIDUCIARY AGENT LOCALLY IS THE TAMPA ARTS
10:47:40AM ALLIANCE.
10:47:40AM I'M A FOUNDING BOARD MEMBER OF THE ARTS ALLIANCE.
10:47:45AM I DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM OTHER THAN
10:47:47AM I GIVE THEM MONEY.
10:47:48AM OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, GIVEN PROBABLY CLOSE TO A HUNDRED
10:47:52AM GRAND BUT I'VE NEVER TAKEN ANYTHING FROM THEM.
10:47:55AM I DON'T THINK I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
10:47:56AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT --
10:47:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS CONTRACT IS NOT WITH YOUR
10:48:01AM ORGANIZATION.
10:48:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS WITH THE ARTS ALLIANCE, WHICH I'M ON
10:48:04AM THE BOARD.
10:48:05AM IT'S A NONPROFIT.
10:48:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS A NONPROFIT AND YOU ARE NOT
10:48:08AM COMPENSATED, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:48:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:48:10AM IT IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
10:48:12AM I GIVE THEM MONEY.
10:48:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THIS
10:48:15AM PERSONALLY THEN OR FOR YOUR BUSINESS.
10:48:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
10:48:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:48:18AM I SEE NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
10:48:20AM I WOULD SAY THAT YOU HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO VOTE.
10:48:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:48:24AM A QUICK COMMENT, THIS IS SOMETHING WORKED ON FOR MANY YEARS
10:48:27AM AND THIS MONEY IS ANOTHER STEP IN IT.
10:48:29AM RON WEAVER, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED.
10:48:33AM ALEX SINK, MANY OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY, NEIL GOBIOFF AND
10:48:39AM OTHERS INVOLVED.
10:48:40AM IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT.
10:48:41AM THE TECH INDUSTRY, INNOVATION INDUSTRY CANNOT EXIST OUT
10:48:45AM ARTS.
10:48:45AM MATTHEW RICHTER FROM HERE, LED THE ARTIST HOUSING PROGRAMS
10:48:50AM IN SEATTLE, HAS BEEN A PRO BONO CONSULTANT TO US.
10:48:54AM IT'S A REALLY GREAT PROJECT.
10:48:55AM QUICKLY, ALSO, OTHER COMMENTS, NUMBER 49 IS THE JACKSON
10:49:07AM HOUSE.
10:49:07AM THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
10:49:10AM THE ACCARDI BROTHERS A FEW YEARS AGO GAVE A ONE- OR TWO-YEAR
10:49:15AM OPPORTUNITY FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION TO HAVE ACCESS
10:49:19AM TO THIS SPACE.
10:49:19AM THE FOUNDATION DIDN'T DO ANYTHING DURING THAT TIME, WHICH IS
10:49:22AM WHY WE'VE HAD SO MANY HEARINGS.
10:49:24AM I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ACCARDIS AS HAVE
10:49:28AM OTHERS.
10:49:29AM I APPRECIATE THEM MOVING FORWARD.
10:49:30AM THEY ARE TAKING A BIG RISK IN SIGNING THIS DEAL AS IT IS
10:49:34AM NOW, AND THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD IN GOOD FAITH.
10:49:38AM I THINK WE AS A CRA BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE PUT A LOT OF
10:49:41AM FAITH IN THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION.
10:49:43AM WHAT THIS DOES IS IT CLEARS THE WAY FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE
10:49:47AM FOUNDATION TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND FIX THIS BUILDING.
10:49:49AM IF THEY DON'T START FIXING IT QUICKLY, I THINK IT'S UP TO
10:49:53AM THE CITY OR OTHER GOVERNING AGENCIES TO TAKE IT UPON
10:49:56AM THEMSELVES TO SAY THAT WE AS A CRA BOARD HAVE BEEN TRYING TO
10:50:00AM SAVE THIS BUILDING FOR SEVEN YEARS.
10:50:02AM I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SAVE IT SINCE 2012.
10:50:05AM I MADE A PROMISE TO WILLIE ROBINSON I WOULD TRY TO SAVE IT.
10:50:09AM IT MAKES ME SICK IT'S TAKEN SO LONG.
10:50:11AM AND NOT THE FAULT OF THE ACCARDIS.
10:50:14AM THANK YOU.
10:50:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:50:16AM I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DEDICATED TO THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:50:18AM I RECOGNIZE THE LEVEL OF DEDICATION.
10:50:20AM ON THE ART SPACE, I WISH YOU GUYS ALL THE SUCCESS IN THE
10:50:24AM WORLD.
10:50:24AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
10:50:26AM WHEN THAT IS SUCCESSFUL, I WANT TO BUILD A SIMILAR TYPE OF
10:50:28AM PROJECT IN EAST TAMPA DEDICATED TO BLACK AMERICAN ARTISTS.
10:50:33AM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A CATALYST PROJECT FOR THAT
10:50:36AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:50:39AM WHATEVER WE PERCEIVE AS THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND LOVE TO SEE US
10:50:42AM REPLICATE THAT SUCCESS.
10:50:43AM BEST OF LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT BECAUSE YOUR PROJECT
10:50:46AM HOPEFULLY WILL BE THE SEED FOR MANY MORE.
10:50:48AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:50:49AM WE'LL PULL 53 AND 54 FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
10:50:59AM I WOULD LIKE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO MOVE ITEMS
10:51:06AM 40 THROUGH 56 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 51, 53, 54.
10:51:12AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM
10:51:15AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:51:15AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:51:18AM OPPOSED?
10:51:18AM LET'S HAVE A VOTE ON 53.
10:51:24AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO --
10:51:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY THIS IF I MAY ONE SECOND.
10:51:28AM IF IT WASN'T FOR THE ARTISTS, WHO KNOWS WHERE YBOR CITY
10:51:31AM WOULD BE TODAY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT STARTED THE
10:51:34AM REVITALIZATION OF YBOR CITY 30 YEARS AGO, WHENEVER IT WAS,
10:51:38AM WHEN NO ONE WAS THERE.
10:51:39AM IT WAS TUMBLEWEED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:51:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:51:42AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:51:45AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN HURTAK ON ITEM 53.
10:51:48AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:51:50AM OPPOSED?
10:51:52AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO.
10:51:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVING TO 54.
10:51:57AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:51:59AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
10:52:00AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:52:02AM OPPOSED?
10:52:04AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO.
10:52:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:52:08AM MOBILITY, ASSET AND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN
10:52:12AM HURTAK, 57 THROUGH 61.
10:52:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:52:16AM I MOVE ITEMS 57 THROUGH 61.
10:52:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:52:19AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:52:21AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:52:23AM OPPOSED?
10:52:23AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:52:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO SET 62 THROUGH 67 FOR PUBLIC
10:52:30AM HEARINGS WITH THOSE RESPECTIVE DATES AND TIMES.
10:52:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:52:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:52:37AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:52:38AM OPPOSED?
10:52:38AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:52:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN 10:30 VACATION,
10:52:46AM BLC-22-185-C AND REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
10:52:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN --
10:52:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO --
10:53:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS MISNOTICED.
10:53:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THAT INCLUDE THE SECOND READ?
10:53:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT WE ALREADY REMOVED IT FROM THE
10:53:10AM AGENDA.
10:53:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
10:53:11AM YOU RECEIVED AND FILED.
10:53:13AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO --
10:53:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE 68 DUE TO MISNOTICE AND
10:53:19AM RESCHEDULE TO SEPTEMBER 4, 2025 FOR 10:30 A.M.
10:53:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS A SEPARATE ISSUE.
10:53:28AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:53:30AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO REMOVE ITEM 68 FROM THE
10:53:33AM AGENDA.
10:53:34AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:53:36AM OPPOSED?
10:53:36AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:53:37AM WOULD WE LIKE TO GO TO THE ITEMS THAT WE PULLED?
10:53:40AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS NOT HERE.
10:53:51AM SHE PULLED BOTH OF THOSE.
10:53:52AM ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS.
10:53:56AM SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, ARE YOU READY FOR THAT?
10:54:06AM >> I HAVE THE TWO ITEMS FOR RECONSIDERATION.
10:54:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OH, THE PULLED ITEMS.
10:54:12AM WE'RE WAITING FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:54:17AM SUSAN.
10:54:18AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, LEGAL
10:54:21AM DEPARTMENT.
10:54:22AM I WANTED TO COME AND REPORT TO COUNCIL, AS MANY OF YOU MAY
10:54:27AM BE AWARE IN THE 2025 LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE FLORIDA
10:54:30AM LEGISLATURE ADOPTED SENATE BILL 180, WHICH, AMONG OTHER
10:54:35AM THINGS, RENDERS NULL AND VOID LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS
10:54:38AM AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED AFTER
10:54:42AM AUGUST 1st OF 2024, TO BE NULL AND VOID.
10:54:45AM THERE IS A TIME RANGE PROVIDED.
10:54:51AM AUGUST 1, 2024, THROUGH OCTOBER 1 OF 2027.
10:54:54AM DURING THAT TIME FRAME, UNDER THIS LEGISLATION, CERTAIN
10:54:58AM MUNICIPALITIES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA INCLUDED IN THERE ARE
10:55:01AM PRECLUDED FROM ADOPTING MORE RESTRICTIVE OR MORE BURDENSOME
10:55:06AM LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:55:08AM AMENDMENTS.
10:55:08AM SO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS UNDERTAKING A VERY THOUGHTFUL AND
10:55:12AM CAREFUL REVIEW OF THOSE MATTERS, WHICH COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED
10:55:16AM SINCE AUGUST 1st OF LAST YEAR TO DETERMINE WHICH ARE
10:55:20AM CLEARLY RUN AFOUL OF THE SENATE BILL AND WHICH MIGHT BE ABLE
10:55:25AM TO BE SAVED IN WHOLE OR IN PART.
10:55:28AM WE WANTED TO ADVISE YOU THAT WE WERE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT
10:55:31AM SINCE WE'RE AWARE SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED QUESTIONS
10:55:34AM EITHER DIRECTLY OR BY PHONE OR E-MAIL ABOUT THAT, AND WE
10:55:36AM WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK WITH A FULL REPORT TO COUNCIL AT
10:55:39AM YOUR SEPTEMBER 25th WORKSHOP.
10:55:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION WHETHER WE CAN
10:55:45AM ICE THOSE ITEMS -- LIKE, TEMPORARY HOLD THE ITEMS UNTIL THE
10:55:49AM SUSPENSION IS OVER AND REINSTITUTE THEM IN WHOLE?
10:55:52AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES, PART OF THE DISCUSSION WILL
10:55:54AM INCLUDE THAT, YES.
10:55:55AM WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT WHICH ONES WE THINK MIGHT NEED TO
10:55:58AM HAVE THAT HAPPEN OR WHICH ONES WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME
10:56:01AM OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND WHICH ONES MIGHT BE
10:56:04AM ABLE TO CONTINUE AS ADOPTED.
10:56:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXCELLENT.
10:56:08AM COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:56:10AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WE'D ASK THAT COUNCIL SET THE MATTER
10:56:12AM ON YOUR WORKSHOP SEPTEMBER 25 FOR A MORE FULL REPORT FROM
10:56:18AM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON THAT.
10:56:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.
10:56:23AM I HAVE AN ITEM ON THAT WORKSHOP AGENDA THAT I'M WILLING TO
10:56:26AM MOVE TO JANUARY TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS DONE.
10:56:29AM FIRST OF ALL, I MOTION TO MOVE -- AND THIS WAS COUNCILWOMAN
10:56:37AM HENDERSON'S MOTION INITIALLY, AND THEN I TOOK IT OVER, TO
10:56:42AM DISCUSS THE COUNCIL SALARIES FOR THE FUTURE ELECTION CYCLE
10:56:45AM BEGINNING MAY 1st, 2027.
10:56:48AM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT CONVERSATION TO THE JANUARY
10:56:53AM WORKSHOP, WHICH IS ON JANUARY 29.
10:56:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:57:02AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:03AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:57:04AM AYE.
10:57:06AM OPPOSED?
10:57:06AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:57:10AM IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
10:57:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD ANYTHING
10:57:13AM THAT THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO MOVE FROM THAT.
10:57:16AM SEPTEMBER 25.
10:57:20AM WHILE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION THEN TO SET
10:57:26AM THIS -- THE DISCUSSION ABOUT SB 180 TO THE SEPTEMBER 25
10:57:32AM WORKSHOP.
10:57:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:57:36AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:57:42AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:57:44AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS.
10:57:46AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:57:48AM THERE WAS A REQUEST TO MOVE, I HAVE NO OBJECTION.
10:57:51AM I HAVE STAFF TO REPORT ON HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WITH
10:57:54AM DISABILITIES.
10:57:54AM IF WE CAN GET IT ON OCTOBER, TO MAKE THE AGENDA RUN MORE
10:57:59AM SMOOTHLY, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.
10:58:00AM I WOULD MAKE A MOTION IF WE CAN, SO LONG --
10:58:05AM >> 23rd.
10:58:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY ONLY STIPULATION -- ACTUALLY, NO, WE DON'T
10:58:13AM HAVE A TON.
10:58:14AM SO LONG AS IT'S NUMBER 2, I'M FINE WITH THAT OR STAYS AS
10:58:18AM NUMBER 2.
10:58:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO
10:58:22AM MOVE THE ITEM FOR HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO
10:58:25AM OCTOBER 30 WORKSHOP.
10:58:27AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:58:28AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:58:30AM OPPOSED?
10:58:30AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:58:32AM WHAT IS HAPPENING --
10:58:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
10:58:39AM I THINK ACTUALLY MS. FEELEY, I WANT TO SAY SHE WANTED THAT
10:58:42AM POSSIBLY MOVED TO OCTOBER, THE LAST I HEARD.
10:58:47AM WE'LL SEE WHAT -- MAYBE MS. FEELEY WILL POP ON IF SHE FEELS
10:58:52AM THAT NEED.
10:58:53AM OH THERE SHE IS.
10:58:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WASN'T EVEN THREE TIMES.
10:58:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME TO MAKE HER FACE
10:58:59AM APPEAR.
10:59:00AM MS. FEELEY.
10:59:00AM THERE!
10:59:02AM IT WORKED!
10:59:03AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:59:05AM ABBYE FEELEY.
10:59:06AM YES, I THINK I ACTUALLY IN KNOWING WHAT MS. JOHNSON VELEZ
10:59:12AM WAS BRINGING FORWARD AND ALSO THAT I HAVE BEEN IN
10:59:17AM COMMUNICATION WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, THEY ARE
10:59:20AM CURRENTLY IN THEIR SELECTION PROCESS FOR A FIRM, AND THAT
10:59:25AM BEING THAT TOMORROW IS AUGUST 1st, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT
10:59:27AM FIRM WILL HAVE CONTENT TO BRING BACK TO YOU AT THE END OF
10:59:31AM SEPTEMBER.
10:59:31AM BUT I AM WORKING CLOSELY TO COORDINATE WITH KENYETTA AT THE
10:59:37AM PARTNERSHIP TO SEE WHERE WE WILL BE ON THAT.
10:59:39AM THAT BEING SAID, I THINK YOU NOW HAVE FOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT
10:59:46AM TYPE OR DEVELOPMENT TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS THAT COULD TAKE
10:59:49AM PLACE AND BE PACKAGED ONTO THAT SEPTEMBER AGENDA, AND WE
10:59:53AM WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
10:59:55AM I CAN CHECK WITH KENYETTA AND GET YOU BACK A FIRM FINDING ON
11:00:01AM THAT MOTION RELATED TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED ON THAT
11:00:07AM AGENDA AS WELL.
11:00:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. FEELEY, DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT
11:00:11AM BY TODAY?
11:00:14AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I CAN WORK ON THAT OR MAYBE TRY TO GET THAT
11:00:18AM TO YOU BEFORE YOUR EVENING SESSION TONIGHT, IF THAT WOULD BE
11:00:21AM OKAY, I COULD WORK ON IT THIS AFTERNOON ONCE I FINISH MY
11:00:24AM AGENDA ITEMS WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
11:00:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
11:00:28AM I'LL TAKE THAT ON.
11:00:30AM I KNOW MS. SCHARF IS LISTENING.
11:00:34AM YOU CAN WORK WITH HER ON THAT.
11:00:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IOU ON THAT, BUT FOR NOW, THAT IS DONE.
11:00:41AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:00:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUICK COMMENTS.
11:00:45AM YOU JUST MOVED THE FUTURE COUNCIL SALARY ISSUE TO JANUARY.
11:00:48AM I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN ASK THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO
11:00:53AM LOOK AT IT.
11:00:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD IDEA.
11:00:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, BUT I
11:00:59AM HOPE NO FUTURE COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE ON THEIR SALARIES.
11:01:02AM I HOPE WE CREATE A FORMULA.
11:01:04AM DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY.
11:01:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH YOU.
11:01:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. JOHNSON VELEZ, SINCE THAT IS A WORKSHOP,
11:01:11AM I PRESUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES.
11:01:13AM SHOULDN'T WE GO AHEAD -- WHERE DID SHE GO?
11:01:17AM HOPEFULLY WE CAN SCHEDULE AT A NIGHT MEETING OR DAY MEETING,
11:01:23AM LIKE TWO WEEKS LATER, TO ACTUALLY PUT AN AGENDA ITEM TO
11:01:27AM DISCUSS MAYBE REMOVING THOSE.
11:01:29AM I THINK REASON TWO DIFFERENT ONES, TYPICALLY DON'T APPROVE
11:01:33AM SOMETHING AT A WORKSHOP.
11:01:34AM SECOND, GIVES A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO
11:01:37AM COME FORWARD IF THEY HAVE ANY LEGAL OBJECTIONS OR PRECEDENT
11:01:40AM IN THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE NEW STATE LAW.
11:01:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CARLSON, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY WILL BE
11:01:44AM TAKING ANY ACTION AT THE WORKSHOP WHATSOEVER.
11:01:47AM DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU DISCUSS, COUNCIL'S CHOICE THEN TO SET
11:01:53AM IT FOR FUTURE.
11:01:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: CONSIDERING THAT WE'RE REMOVING THINGS NOW
11:01:57AM INTO JANUARY, WE MAY WANT TO SCHEDULE FOR TWO WEEKS LATER,
11:02:00AM PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA --
11:02:16AM [NETWORK LOSS]
11:02:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: -- A LOT OF CITIES, AND COUNTIES ARE
11:02:28AM STRUGGLING WITH THE EFFECTS OF THIS.
11:02:30AM BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO COME OF IT, AND PERHAPS
11:02:32AM WHATEVER ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BE
11:02:35AM NOTICED IN SOME FORM OF FASHION ANYWAY.
11:02:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME TIME FOR THE PUBLIC
11:02:43AM TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHEN IT'S COMING BACK, AND FOR SURE WE
11:02:44AM SHOULDN'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS AT THE WORKSHOP.
11:02:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK YOUR INTENTION THEN IS TO
11:02:47AM COMMUNICATE THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T INTEND TO DO ANYTHING
11:02:50AM RASHLY ON THIS.
11:02:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO
11:02:54AM ITEM 32.
11:02:55AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:03:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:03:09AM AS MS. POYNOR SHARED EARLIER, I ACTUALLY PULLED ALL OF THE
11:03:17AM THINGS, THE MEMO AND THINGS FROM THAT JANUARY OR RATHER FROM
11:03:23AM THAT FEBRUARY 15 COUNCIL SESSION.
11:03:28AM I WATCHED MYSELF SAY TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT
11:03:35AM STAFF ADD THE 2%.
11:03:38AM SO I'M REALLY CURIOUS WHY STAFF DID NOT FOLLOW THE MOTION
11:03:42AM THAT COUNCIL MADE UNANIMOUSLY.
11:03:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: IN YOUR RESEARCH, DID YOU FIND LANGUAGE
11:03:51AM REVOKING THAT WAS INCLUDED OR EMBEDDED IN SOME OTHER
11:03:54AM APPROVAL THAT WE GAVE?
11:03:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
11:03:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: -- HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
11:04:00AM I THINK BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INSIGHT.
11:04:05AM >> MIKE PERRY, REVENUE AND FINANCE.
11:04:07AM I KNOW ACCOUNTING STAFF HAS DONE SOME RESEARCH INTO IT.
11:04:12AM WHY WE HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED, I DO NOT KNOW, MA'AM.
11:04:15AM I'LL BE REAL HONEST WITH YOU.
11:04:17AM I WILL TELL YOU THAT A WEEK AGO MONDAY I WAS APPOINTED TO
11:04:20AM ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY FOR MANAGING THE ACCOUNTING STAFF.
11:04:23AM AND I WAS OFF LAST WEEK.
11:04:25AM I'M REALLY DAY FOUR OF MANAGING THAT STAFF.
11:04:29AM SINCE THAT TIME, JUSTIN VASKE, WE'VE DONE RESEARCH.
11:04:34AM WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO SET UP A MEETING WITH
11:04:37AM BANK OF AMERICA WHO PROVIDES OUR MERCHANT SERVICES.
11:04:41AM RIGHT NOW, BASED ON WHAT I KNOW, WE CAN GO ONE OF TWO PATHS.
11:04:45AM EITHER CONTINUE WORKING WITH BANK OF AMERICA OR GO OUT AND
11:04:49AM GET A CONSULTANT WHO CAN GUIDE US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
11:04:55AM THE ONLY THING I'M ASKING T AND I TO DO IS BE A PART OF IT.
11:04:59AM I'VE SEEN ENOUGH IMPLEMENTATIONS IN THE CITY WHERE WE GO
11:05:02AM DOWN ONE PATH AND PARK MOBILE GOES, I CAN'T DO THAT.
11:05:08AM WE REALLY NEED TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO THIS.
11:05:13AM I DON'T HAVE A PATH TO GET THERE.
11:05:16AM I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU, ONCE WE DEVELOP THE PLAN.
11:05:21AM I WILL TELL YOU THAT JUSTIN HAS PROVIDED ME AND THE
11:05:23AM ACCOUNTING STAFF, PROVIDED ME A SLIDE PRESENTATION FROM
11:05:29AM MANATEE COUNTY WHO WENT THROUGH THESE.
11:05:31AM I WANT TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
11:05:33AM MANATEE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS HAVE UNIQUE OPERATING BILLING AND
11:05:37AM COLLECTION SYSTEMS.
11:05:38AM THEY DO DIFFERENT METHODS TO PROCESS CREDIT CARDS, DETAIL
11:05:43AM ELECTRONIC.
11:05:43AM THEY DO POINT OF SALE THIRD-PARTY VENDOR, GATEWAY PROCESS,
11:05:48AM COMBINATION OF EACH.
11:05:48AM I'M TELLING YOU THAT THIS IS NOT AN EASY PROCESS.
11:05:52AM PLEASE GIVE ME TIME TO GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP A PLAN AND
11:05:55AM IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN.
11:05:56AM OF COURSE, AS WE GO ALONG THE WAY, AND WE NEED CONTRACTS,
11:06:01AM THOSE CONTRACTS WILL HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL FOR
11:06:03AM APPROVAL.
11:06:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:06:09AM HOWEVER, THAT IS WHAT WE HAD ASKED MR. ROGERO TO DO, AND HE
11:06:13AM CAME BACK WITH A PLAN AND WE VOTED TO FOLLOW THE PLAN.
11:06:17AM I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PLAN.
11:06:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN MR. PERRY ADD AND THEN RECOGNIZE YOU?
11:06:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ADD TO WHAT SHE SAID?
11:06:31AM JUST TO FURTHER, I THINK YOU HAD ASKED FOR IT.
11:06:36AM HE DID AN ANALYSIS OF THE OPTIONS AND THERE WERE THREE OR
11:06:39AM FOUR OPTIONS, AND WE CHOSE ONE OF THEM.
11:06:42AM ALL THAT STUDY HAS BEEN DONE.
11:06:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, IT WAS HIS RECOMMENDATION.
11:06:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. PERRY.
11:06:47AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: AGAIN, BUDGET OFFICE AT THAT TIME.
11:06:52AM STILL HAVE THE BUDGET OFFICE.
11:06:54AM I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN GETTING THIRD PARTY.
11:06:55AM I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
11:06:58AM SINCE I CAME BACK ON FRIDAY, MR. ROGERO HAS BEEN ON
11:07:01AM VACATION, SO HE AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE.
11:07:04AM WE'RE REALLY BEING CAUGHT FLATFOOTED.
11:07:07AM PLEASE GIVE US TIME TO COME BACK TO YOU AND PROVIDE CLEARER
11:07:11AM INFORMATION.
11:07:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:07:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT YOU TO -- SO HOW MUCH TIME ARE
11:07:21AM YOU LOOKING FOR?
11:07:24AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: I DON'T KNOW, MA'AM.
11:07:27AM WEEK AGO TODAY I COULDN'T EVEN SPELL MERCHANT.
11:07:31AM HERE I AM LEARNING ABOUT IT.
11:07:32AM I NEED TO GET MYSELF UP TO DATE ON THE WHOLE PROCESS.
11:07:35AM MY EXPERIENCE IS JUST LIKE MOST OF YOU, I TAKE MY CREDIT
11:07:39AM CARD.
11:07:39AM I TAKE MY ACH AND I PAY AND EVERYTHING GOES IN THE
11:07:43AM BACKGROUND.
11:07:44AM LET ME GET EDUCATED ON THE PROCESS, PLEASE.
11:07:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THIS WAS IN
11:07:52AM MR. ROGERO'S PORTFOLIO --
11:07:55AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: REALLY THE FORMER ACCOUNTING OFFICER'S
11:07:58AM PORTFOLIO. LEE HUFFSTUTLER.
11:08:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT PERSON IS GONE.
11:08:02AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: CORRECT.
11:08:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:08:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO
11:08:09AM SPEAK, TOO, BUT I WOULD LIKE, EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT COMPLETELY
11:08:12AM DONE, I WOULD LIKE TO YOU COME FORWARD, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
11:08:15AM SOLVE THIS BEFORE THE BUDGET.
11:08:16AM NOT SOLVE IT, SOLVE IT.
11:08:22AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: GET DOWN THE GLIDE PATH.
11:08:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AUGUST 28, JUST FOR SIMPLE UPDATE.
11:08:28AM WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS -- AND YOU MIGHT HAVE THIS NUMBER
11:08:33AM RIGHT NOW, HOW MUCH MONEY WE ALLOCATED TO THIS IN THE '25
11:08:38AM BUDGET.
11:08:38AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: ALLOCATED TO WHAT, MA'AM?
11:08:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO PAYING CREDIT CARD -- BECAUSE I KNOW -- I
11:08:46AM BELIEVE IT'S ONLY FOR WATER AND PARKING.
11:08:48AM WATER, WASTEWATER, STORM -- I MEAN SOLID WASTE AND PARKING.
11:08:51AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: RIGHT.
11:08:52AM THAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION, CONSUMER
11:09:00AM AFFAIRS AND PARKING.
11:09:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OVERALL IS THERE ANY OTHER PLACE WHERE PEOPLE
11:09:05AM PAY WITH A CREDIT CARD THAT WE'RE PAYING?
11:09:08AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: LET ME LOOK AT THE REPORT.
11:09:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, YOU CAN GIVE THIS TO US IN AUGUST.
11:09:14AM OR IF YOU HAVE IT IN ADVANCE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO MAYBE SEND
11:09:17AM AN E-MAIL.
11:09:18AM I'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
11:09:19AM BUT NOT ONLY THAT, BECAUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S
11:09:23AM ALREADY TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S -- THAT WAS
11:09:26AM THE INITIAL ASK FOR THE '25 BUDGET.
11:09:33AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: I CANNOT CONFIRM OR DENY THAT.
11:09:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL 2.5 MILLION.
11:09:39AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING CONFIRM OR
11:09:43AM DENY THAT, MA'AM.
11:09:43AM I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT.
11:09:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO STATE THAT THIS 2.5 MILLION, IF WE
11:09:49AM HADN'T GOTTEN THE PAVING MONEY BACK, IS PAVING MONEY.
11:09:52AM IF YOU WANT TO PAY BY CREDIT CARD, THAT'S FINE, BUT THAT'S
11:09:54AM YOUR OPTION.
11:09:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:09:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT ANALYSIS BY DEPARTMENT -- I'M
11:09:59AM GOING BY MEMORY, BUT I THINK IT WAS IN THE -- A YEAR OR TWO
11:10:04AM AGO.
11:10:05AM JUST FOR ANYBODY WATCHING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, SEVERAL
11:10:07AM YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WAS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALLOWED
11:10:10AM MERCHANTS TO CHARGE CREDIT CARD FEES.
11:10:12AM THEY GET CHARGED ANYWHERE FROM I THINK 2% TO 4%, DEPENDING
11:10:16AM ON WHAT CREDIT CARD YOU USE.
11:10:17AM THE ISSUE IS THAT PEOPLE WHO PAY CASH ARE SUBSIDIZING THE
11:10:22AM PEOPLE THAT PAY CREDIT CARDS.
11:10:23AM IF I RECALL, GOING FROM MEMORY, I THINK THE TOTAL COST TO
11:10:26AM THE CITY WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 4 MILLION.
11:10:29AM THIS IS 4 MILLION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO RAISE RATES, SO WE
11:10:33AM HAVE TO RAISE WATER RATES OR OTHER RATES TO COVER THAT.
11:10:38AM BY DOING THAT, IT MEANS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT USING CREDIT
11:10:42AM CARDS ARE SUBSIDIZING EVERYBODY ELSE.
11:10:44AM MANY MERCHANTS OR MOST MERCHANTS HAVE GONE IN MOST
11:10:49AM GOVERNMENT AGENCIES GONE TO CHARGING.
11:10:51AM OPTIONS WERE LIKE A FIXED FEE PER TRANSACTION, LIKE $2 PER
11:10:58AM TRANSACTION OR A PERCENTAGE.
11:10:59AM THERE WERE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
11:11:00AM THE IDEA HERE IS TO RECOVER EXPENSES THAT ARE BEING INCURRED
11:11:03AM AND NOT CHARGE ALL THE RATEPAYERS BECAUSE OF THE COSTS
11:11:09AM INCURRED BY A FEW.
11:11:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A QUESTION FOR THE MAKER.
11:11:16AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IS THEN YOUR MOTION THEN TO CONTINUE
11:11:19AM THIS PARTICULAR ITEM?
11:11:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE MR. MANISCALCO AND ANYBODY ELSE
11:11:23AM WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST.
11:11:25AM THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
11:11:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU RAISED COMING BACK ON A PARTICULAR DAY.
11:11:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE REALLY WANTS TO SPEAK, SO I WANT TO LET
11:11:33AM HIM SPEAK AND THEN WE'LL DO SOMETHING.
11:11:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:11:38AM TO GET THIS STRAIGHT, WE ARE NOT CHARGING THE PAYER OR THE
11:11:43AM CONSUMER A CONVENIENCE FEE OR CREDIT CARD FEE IF THEY ARE
11:11:48AM PAYING WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING AND WATER?
11:11:50AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: AND PROBABLY THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHO ALSO
11:11:52AM USE CREDIT CARDS, SUCH AS CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
11:11:55AM I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE MAY HAVE SOME POINT OF SALES IN THE
11:11:58AM PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
11:12:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL WAIT FOR YOUR REPORT WHEN YOU COME
11:12:02AM BACK.
11:12:03AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: YES.
11:12:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW SOMEONE THAT WAS PAYING THEIR
11:12:06AM RENT WITH A CREDIT CARD, AND THEY WERE PAYING LIKE A 2.8 OR
11:12:10AM 3 PERCENT FEE WITH CREDIT CARD.
11:12:12AM I TOLD THEM JUST PAY ACH OUT OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNT AND STILL
11:12:17AM GOT CHARGED $2.50 CONVENIENCE FEE.
11:12:20AM YEAH, ONLY $2.50, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO AVOID THAT WAS TO GO
11:12:24AM IN PERSON TO THE LANDLORD AND BRING A CHECK.
11:12:27AM BY THE TIME YOU SPEND THE GAS, THERE IS YOUR $2.50.
11:12:30AM I RENEWED MY LICENSE PLATE, VEHICLE REGISTRATION THE OTHER
11:12:34AM DAY, I GOT A CONVENIENCE FEE.
11:12:35AM I USE PARK MOBILE, I GET A CONVENIENCE FEE.
11:12:38AM IT ADDS UP.
11:12:41AM WHEN I SAW THAT, WHEN THAT PERSON PAID THE RENT THE OTHER
11:12:45AM DAY AND THEY DID IT ACH AND STILL GOT A FEE, I'M LIKE
11:12:49AM EVERYBODY CHARGES A FEE.
11:12:50AM WHY ARE WE SUBSIDIZING -- THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY.
11:12:54AM $2.5 MILLION, BECAUSE EVERYBODY CHARGES THE CONVENIENCE FEE.
11:12:59AM AND WE CERTAINLY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS, THIS, AS WAS ALREADY
11:13:02AM MENTIONED, THIS IS PAVING MONEY.
11:13:04AM IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
11:13:05AM AGAIN, EVERYBODY -- I'M TRYING TO THINK WHERE I GO TO A
11:13:09AM RESTAURANT, THEY ARE NOT CHARGING ME A CREDIT CARD FEE,
11:13:12AM BECAUSE I TOOK MY MOM OUT TO EAT LAST NIGHT FOR HER
11:13:15AM BIRTHDAY, 39 YEARS OLD.
11:13:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE'LL APPRECIATE THAT.
11:13:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE EVERYBODY HAS GOT SOMETHING.
11:13:22AM AND THIS IS BIG MONEY WHEN IT COMES AT THE END OF THE DAY.
11:13:25AM WE'LL WAIT FOR YOUR REPORT.
11:13:26AM I KNOW YOU ARE NEW IN THIS AS THINGS HAVE SHIFTED.
11:13:30AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:13:31AM I'M GLAD COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK BROUGHT THIS UP.
11:13:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I PUT IT ON THE WOLF.
11:13:37AM THIS IS THE MEMO.
11:13:39AM AND I WILL MAKE A COPY AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE GETS IT.
11:13:42AM BUT THAT WAS MR. ROGERO'S MEMO.
11:13:45AM AND IT TALKED ABOUT THE ESTIMATED BILLING AND THE OUTSIDE
11:13:49AM VENDORS.
11:13:49AM IT LITERALLY HAS EVERYTHING ON IT ABOUT WHAT WE HAD
11:13:53AM CONSIDERED.
11:13:54AM SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS A COPY OF THIS MEMO
11:13:57AM AND ANY OTHER MEMOS FROM THERE.
11:14:00AM YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
11:14:01AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, FOR REMINDING ME.
11:14:05AM WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THE RESEARCH.
11:14:07AM I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY AS WELL.
11:14:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
11:14:11AM CONTINUE THE ITEM TO AUGUST 28?
11:14:12AM MR. PERRY.
11:14:19AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: I NEED -- I THINK YOU NEED -- THE MOTION --
11:14:23AM I NEED THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION DONE SO WE CAN PAY THE BILLS
11:14:28AM BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING FROM THE BANK AND WE DON'T HAVE A
11:14:31AM CHOICE OF NOT PAYING THEM.
11:14:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE IN NEW BUSINESS.
11:14:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. SCHARF AND I WILL WORK WITH YOUR OFFICE
11:14:44AM EITHER DURING LUNCH OR BETWEEN REGULAR AND EVENING SESSION
11:14:47AM TO MAKE A MOTION THAT MAKES SENSE.
11:14:51AM IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING, REACH OUT TO KELLY.
11:14:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 32 SO WE CAN PAY THE
11:14:59AM BILLS?
11:14:59AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:15:03AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:15:04AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:15:06AM OPPOSED?
11:15:10AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO AND VIERA
11:15:13AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:15:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:15:15AM SO WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO NEW BUSINESS TO ADDRESS THIS
11:15:20AM ISSUE FOR ANOTHER DATE.
11:15:23AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: MR. CHAIR, WILL THAT BE A WRITTEN REPORT OR
11:15:27AM IN-PERSON REPORT.
11:15:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL ADDRESS THAT IN NEW BUSINESS.
11:15:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, BUT IT WILL BE IN PERSON.
11:15:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WILL COME IN NEW BUSINESS FOR
11:15:35AM CLARITY.
11:15:35AM MS. HURTAK, YOU PULLED ITEM 51.
11:15:39AM QUICKLY, MS. SCHARF IS HERE, WOULD YOU PREFER THE DOCUMENTS
11:15:43AM TO BE E-MAILED OR HARD COPIES?
11:15:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO ITEM 51.
11:15:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT THE CLERK IS COPIED TOO.
11:15:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
11:15:59AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY, THAT IT BECOMES PART OF THE
11:16:02AM PUBLIC RECORD.
11:16:02AM I KNOW MS. SCHARF IS LISTENING BACK THERE.
11:16:07AM PLEASE MAKE SURE THE CLERK IS COPIED SO WE CAN GET THIS
11:16:11AM ADDED TO THE ON-BASE RECORD.
11:16:13AM ITEM 51, I HAD A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.
11:16:19AM I TALKED TO MR. ROGERO DURING THE FIRST OF MANY BUDGET
11:16:24AM CONVERSATIONS.
11:16:25AM ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IS THE WAY THAT
11:16:30AM THE FY 24 EXTRA MONEY ENDED UP IN THE GENERAL FUND IS
11:16:35AM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR.
11:16:39AM I DO REALIZE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND ALL $12
11:16:42AM MILLION BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
11:16:44AM I WANTED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT
11:16:49AM THE AMOUNTS THAT WE ALLOCATED AND THAT WE ARE APPROVING
11:16:53AM TODAY THEN GET TRANSFERRED TO THE EXACT SAME BUCKETS IN THE
11:16:59AM 2026 BUDGET.
11:17:01AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: OKAY.
11:17:02AM WILL DO.
11:17:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SINCE WE'RE STARTING A NEW ITEM, STATE
11:17:07AM YOUR NAME AGAIN.
11:17:08AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: SORRY.
11:17:09AM MIKE PERRY, REVENUE AND FINANCE.
11:17:11AM ITEM NUMBER 51 IS A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION AS COUNCIL
11:17:15AM REQUESTED, MOVING ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, RESULTING FROM THE
11:17:19AM YEAR-END FISCAL YEAR 2024.
11:17:21AM SO BEFORE YOU IS APPROVAL OF A $12 MILLION FINANCIAL
11:17:25AM RESOLUTION WHICH APPROPRIATES MONEY INTO THE STORMWATER
11:17:30AM SPECIAL REVENUE FUND, SERVICE FUND, I APOLOGIZE.
11:17:34AM IT MOVES MONEY INTO THE LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX FUND FOR
11:17:40AM RESURFACING AND SIDEWALKS.
11:17:42AM IT ALSO MOVES MONEY INTO THE GRANT PROGRAM FUND.
11:17:45AM NOW, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THE GOOD
11:17:50AM THING IS THIS MONEY LEAVES THE GENERAL FUND.
11:17:52AM AS SOON AS THEY GET A RESOLUTION NUMBER, THE MONEY WILL
11:17:56AM MOVE, HOPEFULLY BY TOMORROW, AND IT WILL GO TO THOSE FUNDS.
11:17:59AM AS I HAVE UP HERE, I'M GOING TO GET GEEKY ON YOU.
11:18:06AM APOLOGIZE.
11:18:07AM WE HAVE CLOSING FUNDS, WHICH MEANS ON SEPTEMBER 30, THE
11:18:11AM APPROPRIATION GOES AWAY.
11:18:12AM SO AS FAR AS THE STORMWATER SERVICE FUND, WHATEVER MONEY IS
11:18:16AM UNUSED, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO REAPPROPRIATE
11:18:21AM THOSE FUNDS.
11:18:21AM BUT THOSE MONIES WILL BE IN A SEPARATE FUND, THE STORMWATER
11:18:25AM SERVICE ASSESSMENT FUND.
11:18:27AM THE OTHER THREE -- OR OTHER TWO TRANSFERS, ONE TO THE LOCAL
11:18:31AM OPTION GAS TAX CAPITAL FUND IS MOVING TOWARDS A CAPITAL
11:18:35AM CONSTRUCTION FUND.
11:18:37AM AND IN CAPITAL PROJECTS, ONCE WE APPROPRIATE THE FUNDING TO
11:18:41AM THE PROJECT, IT STAYS GENERALLY FOR THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT.
11:18:45AM WE MAY MOVE IT ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE
11:18:50AM GOING TO DO THAT.
11:18:51AM I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
11:18:54AM THE SAME THING WITH THE HOUSING GRANT FUND.
11:18:57AM THAT MONEY GOES THERE.
11:19:00AM EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT A GRANT FUND, WE TREAT IT LIKE IT IS
11:19:03AM BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
11:19:05AM SO WE'LL CONTINUE MOVING THOSE FUNDS INTO NEXT YEAR
11:19:09AM ADMINISTRATIVELY.
11:19:10AM HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
11:19:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO QUESTIONS, SORRY TO HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS
11:19:18AM FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES, IS THERE ANY WAY THE
11:19:21AM ADMINISTRATION CAN USE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND OR ANY OF
11:19:23AM THIS ON THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT?
11:19:25AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: NO.
11:19:25AM BECAUSE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT IS CURRENTLY FUNDED AT
11:19:29AM LEAST IN TWO FUNDS.
11:19:33AM I THINK TWO OR THREE.
11:19:33AM TWO OF THEM MAY BE BOND FUNDS, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THE
11:19:37AM SERVICE ASSESSMENT FUND.
11:19:38AM AND THE OTHER FUND IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, WHICH IS
11:19:42AM A DISTINCT AND UNIQUE PROJECT FUND.
11:19:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW KIND OF A RHETORICAL QUESTION.
11:19:47AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WANTS THAT PROJECT
11:19:49AM CANCELED.
11:19:50AM THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE THAT
11:19:57AM PROHIBITS THE ADMINISTRATION FROM USING THIS MONEY ON
11:20:00AM PARADES?
11:20:00AM WE LEARNED FROM PUBLIC RECORDS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION USED
11:20:07AM STORMWATER MONEY TO MAN PARADES, WHICH UPSET THE PUBLIC.
11:20:13AM IS THERE ANY PROHIBITION ON USING THIS MONEY FOR PARADES OR
11:20:16AM CAN THEY DO THAT?
11:20:20AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY LEGAL RESTRICTIONS IN
11:20:24AM THE STORMWATER SERVICE FUND.
11:20:25AM BUT REMEMBER MR. BHIDE CAME BACK AND WE MOVED 11 PEOPLE OUT
11:20:30AM OF THE STORMWATER SERVICE FUND BACK TO THE MOBILITY FUND.
11:20:34AM I THINK PART OF THAT WAS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH THE
11:20:36AM PARADES.
11:20:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY OR MR. VASKE, IS IT POSSIBLE WE CAN
11:20:40AM ADD ANOTHER LINE TO THE MOTION TO PROHIBIT THE
11:20:42AM ADMINISTRATION FROM USING THIS MONEY FOR PARADES?
11:20:51AM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:20:54AM THAT IS A LITTLE TRICKY.
11:20:55AM SOUNDS LIKE MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION THAT YOU
11:20:58AM WOULD BE TRYING TO STOP.
11:20:59AM I WOULD SAY NO.
11:21:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: STORMWATER MONEY THAT THE PUBLIC THINKS WILL
11:21:05AM BE USED FOR STORMWATER, NOT PARADES.
11:21:07AM MARTY, ARE WE ALLOWED TO PUT -- I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALLOWED
11:21:15AM TO AMEND THEIR PROPOSAL, RIGHT?
11:21:17AM WE CAN EITHER ACCEPT IT OR REJECT IT.
11:21:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS A STACK OF NUMBERS
11:21:22AM AND A STACK OF FUNDS.
11:21:25AM I DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN PUT IN PROVISIONS.
11:21:27AM YOU CAN'T MAKE THINGS PROVISIONAL.
11:21:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THOUGH, HAVE RESTRICTIONS
11:21:32AM ALREADY, RIGHT?
11:21:33AM BUT SOMEHOW ALLEGEDLY THEY USED STORMWATER MONEY, WHICH IS
11:21:37AM ENTERPRISE FUND ON PARADES, WHICH THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE.
11:21:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:21:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE AND AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
11:21:48AM I THINK ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN MONITOR IT AND THAT WE
11:21:51AM ARE TALKING ABOUT MONITORING IT IS STORMWATER REPORTS.
11:21:56AM RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING THE ACTUAL WORK, BUT MAYBE IF WE
11:21:59AM ALSO ADDED SOME FINANCIAL REPORTS TO THAT.
11:22:04AM I MEAN, TO THAT HE WANTED, I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT I
11:22:08AM ACTUALLY AM PROPOSING TO HAVE A SEPARATE BUDGET STORMWATER
11:22:11AM EVENING MEETING.
11:22:12AM I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD.
11:22:14AM IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FUN.
11:22:15AM I AM HOPING TO HAVE THAT MEETING ON AUGUST 11, THAT EVENING.
11:22:24AM I CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER.
11:22:31AM THAT'S MONDAY NIGHT AFTER THE ENTERPRISE FUND BUDGET
11:22:39AM DISCUSSION.
11:22:39AM SO I AGREE WITH YOU.
11:22:42AM AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION.
11:22:46AM I'M ALSO PROBABLY GOING TO DO A MOTION LATER TO MAKE SURE
11:22:49AM THAT GOES WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO, EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS
11:22:53AM LIKE IT WILL.
11:22:54AM I WILL FEEL BETTER WITH A MOTION FOR THE 2026 BUDGET.
11:23:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I SAW YOUR LIGHT WAS
11:23:05AM ON.
11:23:06AM DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK IN.
11:23:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:23:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD BE GLAD TO SECOND THE MOTION,
11:23:11AM SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF EVERY QUARTER SEEING WHAT IF ANY
11:23:14AM STORMWATER FUNDS WERE SPENT ON PARADES OR SOMETHING, IF WE
11:23:16AM CAN'T LEGALLY DO IT WITH THIS.
11:23:20AM JUST AN IDEA.
11:23:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DURING OUR BUDGET PROCESS, I WAS GOING TO
11:23:24AM SPEAK -- OF CREATING -- MR. SHELBY AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS
11:23:30AM ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS OF WHAT KIND OF GUARDRAILS
11:23:33AM AND DIRECTION WE CAN PUT ON AS COUNCIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN
11:23:36AM A MORE MATURE COUNCIL, AS WE'RE GETTING MORE HANDS ON, ON
11:23:40AM THESE ISSUES.
11:23:41AM I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED LEGAL INTERPRETATIONS OF WHERE WE
11:23:44AM ARE AT AND WHAT WE ARE WITHIN OUR REALM OF RESPONSIBILITY.
11:23:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH MR. VASKE
11:23:53AM ABOUT LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENTS THAT CONTROL THE SPENDING OF
11:23:56AM THIS MONEY, THE ORDINANCES AND THE LIKE, AND SEE --
11:24:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION CAN COUNCIL
11:24:02AM PROVIDE, WHAT KIND OF GUARDRAILS?
11:24:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THING IS, REQUIRES PERHAPS PUTTING AN
11:24:07AM AMENDED ORDINANCE OR DOCUMENT THAT ACTUALLY CONTROLS WHAT
11:24:12AM THE DIRECTION IS POLICY-WISE TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:24:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION AND
11:24:16AM CONTINUING THAT SO YOU AND I OFF-LINE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT
11:24:20AM AND MAYBE GET IT ON A WORKSHOP OR SCHEDULE IT.
11:24:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I MAY, THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS I
11:24:27AM WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WITH A SPECIAL STORMWATER BUDGET
11:24:31AM WORKSHOP.
11:24:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK IT TRANSCENDS BEYOND --
11:24:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
11:24:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ACROSS EVERY LINE OF BUSINESS.
11:24:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN STORMWATER, WE
11:24:39AM MIGHT BE ABLE TO REPLICATE --
11:24:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS A CATALYST.
11:24:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LIKE THE ART SPACE DISCUSSION, USING IT AS A
11:24:45AM CATALYST FOR HOUSING AND OTHER TYPES OF HOUSING.
11:24:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, ONE POSSIBLE SOLUTION MAYBE AFTER THE
11:24:55AM BUDGETING PROCESS IS IF WE HAD A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THE
11:24:58AM ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND HOW THEY ARE GOVERNED.
11:25:00AM SOME OF THEM ARE GOVERNED BY BOND COVENANTS BUT SOME I THINK
11:25:05AM ARE MORE ACCOUNTING, AND MAYBE THIS IS A REASON WHY WE
11:25:08AM SHOULD MORE FORMALIZE THEM THROUGH ORDINANCES TO SET
11:25:11AM GUARDRAILS FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUND IN GENERAL.
11:25:13AM WE'VE SEEN ENTERPRISE FUNDS BEING SHIFTED AROUND US.
11:25:17AM WE ULTIMATELY HAVE TO APPROVE THEM.
11:25:19AM MOVING FROM THIS ACCOUNT TO THIS ACCOUNT, WE CAN'T SEE WHAT
11:25:22AM IT WILL BE SPENT ON.
11:25:23AM CREATE AN ORDINANCE TO CREATE A BOX, MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP.
11:25:26AM BUT ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
11:25:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE BACK TO ITEM 51.
11:25:30AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE?
11:25:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE.
11:25:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO MOVE 51 FROM HURTAK.
11:25:38AM SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
11:25:39AM IN FAVOR?
11:25:39AM AYE.
11:25:40AM OPPOSED?
11:25:40AM UNANIMOUS.
11:25:41AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:25:42AM THANK YOU.
11:25:48AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:25:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU TALK AS MUCH.
11:25:50AM VERY GOOD.
11:25:52AM >>MICHAEL PERRY: THANK YOU.
11:25:53AM HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.
11:25:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
11:25:56AM WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM 70, STAFF REPORTS.
11:26:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:26:14AM CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY?
11:26:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN.
11:26:17AM LOUD AND CLEAR.
11:26:18AM >> PERFECT.
11:26:18AM GOOD MORNING.
11:26:20AM ADRIANA COLINA, DIRECTOR OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT,
11:26:24AM HERE ON ITEM 70.
11:26:26AM A MEMO WAS SUBMITTED.
11:26:28AM THIS IS REQUESTING THE RENEWAL OF THE MULTI-SERVICES
11:26:35AM CONTRACT FOR THE COMING YEAR.
11:26:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE NO CONCERN WITH THIS.
11:26:40AM THE ONLY THING IS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN ASKING
11:26:49AM WHAT WAS IT SPENT ON LAST YEAR.
11:26:51AM I WAS HOPING WE COULD GET A LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WAS
11:26:56AM WORKED ON.
11:26:57AM MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, AS YOU COME BACK EVERY YEAR, TO HAVE A
11:27:00AM LIST OF THE PROJECTS BECAUSE I THINK IT IS GOOD FOR THE
11:27:03AM COMMUNITY TO SEE THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WERE ABLE TO
11:27:07AM SUPPORT WITH THIS AND THE TYPES OF WORK THEY DO FOR THE
11:27:10AM CITY.
11:27:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:27:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD REQUEST A COPY OF THAT LIST.
11:27:15AM DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR WHEN YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
11:27:17AM THAT?
11:27:18AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YES.
11:27:20AM ACTUALLY, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU, BECAUSE YOU MAY RECALL
11:27:23AM WE CAME BEFORE YOU IN JANUARY, AND WE DID PROVIDE AN UPDATE
11:27:26AM AT THAT QUARTER OF WHAT HAD BEEN COMPLETED AND WHERE WE
11:27:31AM WERE.
11:27:32AM HONESTLY, COUNCIL APPROVED THE MULTI-SERVICES CONTRACT, THE
11:27:36AM EXISTING ONE LAST AUGUST.
11:27:37AM THEN WE RAN INTO HURRICANE SEASON.
11:27:39AM SO ON, SO FORTH.
11:27:40AM ENDS OF JANUARY, WE DID GIVE YOU A REPORT ON WHERE WE WERE.
11:27:44AM THERE WAS A REPORT SUBMITTED FOR QUARTER THREE.
11:27:47AM IT GOT LOST IN E-MAIL-VILLE.
11:27:53AM WE FOUND OUT THIS MORNING.
11:27:54AM I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
11:27:55AM I CAN TELL YOU DURING THAT QUARTER WE HAD SIX PROJECTS
11:27:59AM CLOSE.
11:28:00AM FROM JANUARY TO MARCH.
11:28:02AM AND VERY EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE JOB PROGRAM IS
11:28:07AM DOING WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO DO.
11:28:11AM ONE WAS NOTICE TO PROCEED IN DECEMBER OF 2024.
11:28:14AM SOME IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND THEY ALL CLOSED BY THE END
11:28:18AM OF MARCH.
11:28:18AM IT WAS NEARLY $300,000 THAT WERE CONFIRMED AS PAID TO WMBE
11:28:24AM AND SLB.
11:28:27AM SO WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH EVO AND THE PURCHASING
11:28:31AM DEPARTMENT.
11:28:32AM THE PROJECTS THAT WERE COMPLETED DURING THAT TIME INCLUDE
11:28:35AM WORK AT TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, THREE DIFFERENT PARKING
11:28:40AM GARAGES, FORT BROOKE, PAM IORIO AND CONVENTION CENTER, AND
11:28:44AM WORK AT DUNDEE PARK AND WATER DEPARTMENT FRONT GATE.
11:28:48AM WE'RE HITTING A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS.
11:28:49AM WE'RE SPREADING THE LOVE AMONG CONTRACTORS AS WE PROMISED.
11:28:53AM AND IT'S HAPPENING EXPEDITIOUSLY.
11:28:56AM I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE REPORT.
11:29:00AM WE WILL GET THE WRITTEN REPORT TO YOU THAT DEFINITELY SHOWS
11:29:02AM THE PROJECT AND SHOWS THE ONES THAT WE HAVE ACTIVE.
11:29:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I WERE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A WRITTEN
11:29:10AM REPORT SO YOU CAN COME BACK AND PROVIDE THAT, SO YOU
11:29:13AM WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME TO US, JUST A WRITTEN REPORT ON ONE OF
11:29:15AM THE AGENDAS, WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE WOULD YOU LIKE?
11:29:18AM HOW ABOUT A MONTH?
11:29:22AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: WE PROPOSE SUBMITTING THEM TOGETHER WITH
11:29:24AM THE REGULAR PURCHASING REPORTS THAT YOU RECEIVE.
11:29:28AM WE DO THIS IN TANDEM SO WE CAN KEEP THAT CONTINUOUSLY IF
11:29:32AM THAT WORKS FOR COUNCIL.
11:29:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:29:34AM THAT'S FINE.
11:29:35AM DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THAT TO THE
11:29:39AM PURCHASING REPORT?
11:29:42AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I BELIEVE THERE ALREADY WAS A MOTION FROM
11:29:45AM LAST YEAR.
11:29:46AM -- END OF JANUARY.
11:29:48AM AND THE Q 3 REPORT, I APOLOGIZE, IT'S SOMEWHERE IN
11:29:51AM E-MAIL-VILLE, BUT YOU WILL HAVE IT SOON.
11:29:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:29:56AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:29:58AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU ALL.
11:29:59AM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
11:30:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE ITEM 70.
11:30:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:30:05AM SECOND FROM CARLSON.
11:30:06AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
11:30:07AM OPPOSED?
11:30:07AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS.
11:30:09AM BRAD BAIRD, ITEM 71, 72, 73.
11:30:13AM NOT BRAD BAIRD.
11:30:14AM THE OTHER BRAD BAIRD.
11:30:16AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT
11:30:19AM ADMINISTRATION.
11:30:20AM BRAD BAIRD IS SITTING IN A DENTIST CHAIR SOMEWHERE.
11:30:23AM I'M SURE HE WOULD RATHER BE HERE.
11:30:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SUSPECT HE WOULD RATHER BE IN THE
11:30:27AM DENTIST CHAIR.
11:30:27AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:30:28AM GO AHEAD.
11:30:31AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:30:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY ONLY QUESTION ON THESE, AND IT IS A
11:30:39AM CONCERN OF HARBOUR ISLAND BECAUSE THINGS HAVE BEEN SLID INTO
11:30:43AM CONTRACTS UNEXPECTEDLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
11:30:45AM CAN YOU CONFIRM THERE'S NO BUDGET INCLUDED IN HERE TO BUILD
11:30:51AM OR DIRECTION TO BUILD RED LIGHTS ON FRANKLIN STREET BY THE
11:30:55AM CONVENTION CENTER?
11:30:56AM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: YES, SIR.
11:30:57AM THIS IS ONLY FOR WHITING STREET FROM MERIDIAN TO CHANNELSIDE
11:31:01AM DISTRICT AND INCLUDES NO LIGHTS WHATSOEVER.
11:31:04AM IT'S STREETSCAPE AND UNDERGROUND UTILITY RELOCATION.
11:31:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:31:13AM MANISCALCO TO APPROVE ITEM 71 AND 72.
11:31:16AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:31:18AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:31:19AM OPPOSED?
11:31:19AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:31:26AM >>ERIC WEISS: ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
11:31:29AM ITEM 73 IS AWARD OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AT THE HOWARD
11:31:32AM CURREN SOLID WASTE TREATMENT PLANT.
11:31:35AM IT IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AND A PIPES PROJECT.
11:31:38AM IT HAS A REAL TECHNICAL NAME.
11:31:40AM DIFFUSED AIR REACTOR REHABILITATION PROJECT.
11:31:43AM IN LAYMAN'S TERM, THAT MEANS IT IS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT
11:31:48AM PROCESS THAT REMOVES THE NITROGEN FROM THE WASTEWATER.
11:31:51AM TWO THINGS THE CONTRACT IS DOING IS REHABILITATING ANYWHERE
11:31:54AM FROM 30 TO 50 YEAR OLD EQUIPMENT THAT'S PAST ITS SERVICE
11:31:58AM LIFE.
11:31:59AM REALLY, THE SECOND THING, IT IS EXPANDING OUR CAPACITY TO
11:32:03AM REMOVE MORE NITROGEN FROM THE WASTEWATER.
11:32:06AM I WOULD SAY ONE LAST THING ABOUT IT, TOO, IT'S REALLY KIND
11:32:09AM OF THE CROWN JEWEL, THE NITROGEN REMOVAL PROCESS STARTED IN
11:32:14AM 1970s FROM THE CLEAN WATER ACT WHEN WE DID THIS.
11:32:17AM REALLY, THIS PROCESS IS KIND OF CREDITED WITH HELPING
11:32:19AM RESTORE TAMPA BAY AND KEEP THE WATER QUALITY THE WAY IT IS
11:32:22AM TODAY.
11:32:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXCELLENT.
11:32:24AM >> I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:32:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THEN COUNCILMAN
11:32:27AM MANISCALCO.
11:32:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ISN'T THIS ALSO PART OF HELPING US REDUCE,
11:32:37AM FOLLOW THE STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES US TO REDUCE THE
11:32:40AM DISCHARGE OR AMOUNT OF NITROGEN IN DISCHARGE?
11:32:43AM >>ERIC WEISS: NOT DIRECTLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO A
11:32:46AM BENEFICIAL USE FROM THAT.
11:32:47AM IT WILL REDUCE THE NITROGEN BEFORE THAT DUE DATE.
11:32:51AM BUT NO.
11:32:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:32:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BRAD BAIRD TOLD ME A STORY, STILL MIGHT
11:32:57AM HAVE THE GLASS TO TEST THAT THE -- OR SHOW THAT THE WATER SO
11:33:01AM CLEAN THEY DRANK IT OUT OF CHAMPAGNE GLASSES.
11:33:04AM HE MIGHT HAVE THE ORIGINAL GLASS.
11:33:06AM WE HAVE A LOT TO BE PROUD OF.
11:33:07AM GOING BACK TO THE EARLY DAYS, BACK TO THE '70s POST EPA,
11:33:12AM WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ON TOP OF WATER QUALITY.
11:33:15AM THANK YOU.
11:33:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF SEA GRASS,
11:33:18AM TOO.
11:33:19AM ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE WATER WE'RE
11:33:21AM DISCHARGING AND SEA GRASS IS STILL DYING.
11:33:24AM WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO GET ON TOP OF THAT.
11:33:26AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:33:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE ALSO KNOW FROM PREVIOUS TESTIMONY THAT
11:33:30AM THIS WATER THAT HE'S ALREADY PUTTING OUT IS MANY TIMES
11:33:33AM CLEANER THAN THE WATER COMING OUT OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
11:33:35AM THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER IS SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTING THE BAY.
11:33:39AM BUT ALSO, THE SECTION OF THE BAY THAT IS NEAR THIS PLANT IS
11:33:43AM MUCH HEALTHIER THAN THE OTHER SECTIONS THAT DON'T CIRCULATE
11:33:47AM AS MUCH.
11:33:48AM THIS WATER IS MOST LIKELY HELPING IT.
11:33:51AM HAD THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION NOT CHANGED THE LAW, THIS
11:33:56AM WATER WOULD BE A BENEFICIAL USE BECAUSE IT IS HELPING THE
11:33:58AM SEA GRASS.
11:33:59AM WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS GOING TO BE BETTER.
11:34:01AM THE THING I WANT TO SAY BEYOND THAT -- I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU
11:34:05AM BEFORE, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, DURING THE HURRICANES AND
11:34:09AM AFTER, THERE WERE SOME WASTEWATER ISSUES, AND WE SAT
11:34:11AM TOGETHER WITH SOME VERY, VERY ANGRY HOMEOWNERS.
11:34:17AM WE CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR ANGER BECAUSE THEY HAD WASTEWATER IN
11:34:21AM THEIR STREETS AND SOMETIMES IN THEIR HOUSES.
11:34:23AM I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR BEING SO INCREDIBLY
11:34:26AM RESPONSIVE AND YOU STOOD THERE PERSONALLY AND WORKED WITH
11:34:29AM THEM AND THE ISSUES ON DAVIS ISLANDS AND OTHERS.
11:34:33AM THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF GOOD GOVERNMENT, WHERE WE LISTEN TO
11:34:37AM THE PEOPLE AND RESPOND TO THEM AND ADAPT THINGS BASED ON
11:34:40AM WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED.
11:34:41AM WASTEWATER, THERE'S PROBABLY NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT TO MAKE
11:34:44AM SURE THAT WE'RE ADAPTING OUR SCIENCE AND OUR PROCESSES TO
11:34:47AM MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS BEST SERVED.
11:34:50AM THANK YOU.
11:34:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OUR CZAR OF WATER, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:34:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT THE CZAR OF WATER.
11:34:57AM THERE'S NO WATER THAT WE DRINK HERE IN FLORIDA THAT'S NOT
11:35:00AM CLEANED OUT TO THE BEST ABILITY.
11:35:02AM BECAUSE OUR WATER MAINLY COMES FROM THE GREEN SWAMP AND THE
11:35:06AM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
11:35:06AM THAT'S WHERE IT COMES FROM.
11:35:08AM THAT IS NOT 100% CLEAN.
11:35:10AM WE HAVE THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, ALL THE WATER DEPARTMENTS
11:35:13AM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY KNOW HOW TO WORK IT AND TAKE
11:35:16AM EVERYTHING OUT SO IT MAKES IT WHAT IT IS TODAY.
11:35:18AM I STILL BELIEVE CITY OF TAMPA IS FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE
11:35:21AM INDIVIDUALS WE HAVE WORKING IN WASTEWATER, WATER, AND
11:35:25AM TERTIARY TREATMENT PLANT THAT DO SUCH AN OUTSTANDING JOB
11:35:29AM THAT THEY ARE EXCELLENT, NOT EXCELLENT, SUPERIOR AND
11:35:32AM EXCELLENT AT THE SAME TIME.
11:35:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:35:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:35:35AM WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ON THIS ONE.
11:35:38AM HEAR IT AGAIN IN AUGUST.
11:35:42AM IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL, I'LL TRY TO PUSH
11:35:46AM THROUGH AND FINISH THE AGENDA BEFORE LUNCH AND THEN DONE
11:35:48AM UNTIL TONIGHT.
11:35:49AM IS THAT GOOD WITH YOU GUYS?
11:35:50AM OKAY.
11:35:51AM VERY GOOD.
11:35:53AM ITEM 74.
11:35:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS THE ONE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
11:35:58AM WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A STORMWATER AUDIT.
11:36:02AM I'VE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES WITH STAFF, AND THIS
11:36:08AM TURNED OUT TO BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN AN AUDIT.
11:36:12AM A, MS. GLOVER REALLY TALKED ABOUT RIGHT NOW SHE HAS A LACK
11:36:20AM OF STAFF.
11:36:21AM THE PRIVATE SECTOR KEEPS POACHING OUR PEOPLE.
11:36:24AM IT'S NOT HER FAULT.
11:36:27AM IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, SHE'S TOO GOOD.
11:36:31AM SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT ABOUT INSTEAD OF DOING AN
11:36:35AM AUDIT FOR STORMWATER IS TO SIMPLY ADD A VERY SPECIFIC BUDGET
11:36:42AM MEETING THAT WOULD OCCUR ON AUGUST 11, WHICH IS THE EVENING.
11:36:49AM THAT WOULD BE A MONDAY NIGHT, THAT WOULD BE THE EVENING OF
11:36:51AM THE SAME DAY THAT WE'RE HAVING THE ENTERPRISE FUND BUDGET.
11:36:57AM AND WOULD FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON STORMWATER, BOTH OPERATIONS
11:37:00AM AND CAPITAL.
11:37:02AM WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS.
11:37:03AM WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHERE ALL THE STORMWATER MONEY IS COMING
11:37:06AM AND GOING.
11:37:07AM RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, AND BECAUSE OF ITEM
11:37:12AM NUMBER 82 THAT HAD TO BE CONTINUED BECAUSE OF A HOST OF
11:37:19AM DIFFERENT REASONS, MS. KOPESKY WON'T HAVE THAT DATA UNTIL
11:37:24AM AUGUST 11.
11:37:25AM WE'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR IT AUGUST 11.
11:37:27AM WE'LL BE ABLE TO -- RATHER, SORRY, 7th.
11:37:31AM TAKE IT ON AUGUST 11 AND REALLY DISCUSS WHERE WE WANT TO PUT
11:37:34AM MONEY.
11:37:35AM BUT HAVING IT AT 5:01 ALSO ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO COME TO TALK
11:37:39AM ABOUT WHAT, QUITE FRANKLY, WAS THE MOST TRAUMATIC THING THAT
11:37:43AM MOST OF OUR CITIZENS WENT THROUGH LAST YEAR AND TO ASK FOR
11:37:47AM SPECIFIC PORTIONS AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
11:37:52AM CAN FUND STORMWATER THE WAY WE NEED TO FUND IT.
11:37:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE GOING TO
11:37:58AM PUT FORTH A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 74 FROM THIS AGENDA.
11:38:01AM THEN DURING NEW BUSINESS, YOU'LL PROPOSE ADDING AN EVENING
11:38:05AM SESSION ON AUGUST 11 TO ADDRESS STORMWATER, WHICH WILL
11:38:09AM INCORPORATE THE ISSUES YOU INTENDED IN ITEM 74.
11:38:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:38:13AM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT NOW.
11:38:15AM I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY I'VE SPOKEN WITH STAFF, SPOKEN WITH
11:38:18AM CHIEF OF STAFF, MS. DUNCAN, HER OFFICE, THEY ARE PREPARED TO
11:38:23AM DO THAT.
11:38:24AM I SEE MR. CAMPBELL IN THE BACK NODDING HIS HEAD.
11:38:28AM HE IS PREPARED TO HAVE THIS MEETING AS WELL.
11:38:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES TO BE ABLE TO
11:38:32AM ADDRESS A NEW BUSINESS ITEM?
11:38:33AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:38:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:38:37AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:38:39AM OPPOSED?
11:38:39AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:38:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: I SECOND THE MOTION FOR --
11:38:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY MOTION IS TO STRIKE ITEM 74, THAT'S MY
11:38:48AM FIRST MOTION.
11:38:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMOVE ITEM 74.
11:38:50AM MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 74 FROM TODAY'S AGENDA.
11:38:53AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:38:54AM -- SORRY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:38:58AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:38:59AM OPPOSED?
11:39:00AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:39:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I MOVE JUST BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE
11:39:07AM OF THIS ISSUE TO THIS COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, I MOVE TO ADD AN
11:39:12AM EXTRA SPECIAL CALL BUDGET WORKSHOP FOCUSED ON STORMWATER TO
11:39:18AM AUGUST 11, WHICH IS A MONDAY AT 5 P.M. IN CITY COUNCIL
11:39:22AM CHAMBERS.
11:39:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AVAILABLE, DO WE
11:39:27AM KNOW?
11:39:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS ONE THING I DID NOT DO.
11:39:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLERK, IS AUGUST 11 IN THE EVENING,
11:39:36AM COUNCIL CHAMBERS AVAILABLE?
11:39:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT I HAD ALL MY Ts CROSSED.
11:39:43AM I MISSED AN I.
11:39:58AM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
11:39:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MAKE THE MOTION NOW, AND IF ANYTHING
11:40:01AM CHANGES, WE CAN HANDLE IT THIS EVENING.
11:40:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADD SPECIAL CALL
11:40:05AM MEETING FOR STORMWATER AUGUST 11 FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:40:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 5:01, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA,
11:40:17AM FLORIDA, 33602.
11:40:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:40:22AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:40:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: I BELIEVE I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN THAT WEEK WITH
11:40:26AM MY SON.
11:40:27AM BUT I WILL TRY TO APPEAR VIRTUALLY FOR PART OF IT.
11:40:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A DAY MEETING, TOO.
11:40:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW.
11:40:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:40:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:40:38AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:40:39AM OPPOSED?
11:40:40AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:40:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:40:44AM I THINK THIS IS WHAT THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS TO REALLY TALK
11:40:47AM ABOUT THIS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
11:40:48AM WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT PIECE MEAL.
11:40:51AM I REALLY THINK HAVING JUST ONE MEETING WILL REALLY HELP
11:40:56AM PEOPLE.
11:40:57AM IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD TO IT --
11:41:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE CLARIFICATION.
11:41:02AM I THINK WE OUGHT TO GO BACK TO THE DATE OF THE SECOND
11:41:05AM STORMWATER AND COME FORWARD.
11:41:11AM 2015, 2016, WHENEVER THAT WAS.
11:41:13AM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW WHY MAINTENANCE WASN'T DONE AND
11:41:16AM CERTAIN THINGS WEREN'T DONE.
11:41:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. KOPESKY, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT?
11:41:22AM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
11:41:25AM YES, DISCUSSIONS WITH REVENUE ON FINANCE AND ON.
11:41:27AM WE WOULD WANT TO RECONFIRM HOW DATA IS PRESENTED IN TERMS OF
11:41:31AM COMPLETENESS.
11:41:32AM WE'RE GOOD TO GO WITH THAT.
11:41:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN TALK DURING NEW BUSINESS AS WELL.
11:41:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BETWEEN THIS REGULAR MEETING AND THE EVENING
11:41:43AM SESSION, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE WANTS TO ADD, WE
11:41:45AM CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR IT THIS EVENING.
11:41:49AM ALSO TALK TO MS. KOPESKY AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.
11:41:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 75.
11:41:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S MY INTERN'S LAST DAY.
11:42:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE TO STAND UP THERE IN THE
11:42:04AM SPOTLIGHT.
11:42:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:42:05AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:42:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE YOUR NAME.
11:42:09AM >> WES PREW.
11:42:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: TODAY IS WES'S LAST DAY AT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
11:42:18AM HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB.
11:42:19AM I LEARNED THAT AT FSU YOU WILL BE ROOMMATES WITH ADAM TO
11:42:26AM WORKS WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SO SERENDIPITOUS.
11:42:29AM NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING,
11:42:33AM BUDDY, YOU MAY.
11:42:34AM >> NOTHING MUCH.
11:42:36AM JUST WORKING AROUND THE OFFICE HAS GIVEN ME A REALLY GOOD
11:42:40AM EYE FOR WHAT IT IS TO BE A PUBLIC SERVANT.
11:42:43AM I FEEL LIKE I LEARNED A LOT FROM THE INTERNSHIP AND ALSO GOT
11:42:46AM THE CHANCE TO WRITE ON THINGS THAT I BECAME PASSIONATE ABOUT
11:42:51AM THROUGH WRITING ABOUT THEM.
11:42:52AM I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD BE SO INTERESTED IN SOME OF THE
11:42:54AM THINGS THAT I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE ABOUT.
11:42:56AM I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.
11:42:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU WANT TO MENTION THE TOPIC.
11:43:03AM >> I'VE BEEN WRITING ABOUT THE OFFICE OF RETURNING CITIZENS.
11:43:09AM IF WE WOULD DO ANYTHING LIKE WHAT SOME OTHER CITY CENTERS
11:43:12AM HAVE DONE FOR AN OFFICE OF RETURNING CITIZENS IN TAMPA,
11:43:16AM ANYTHING BETWEEN LIKE WRITING A POTENTIAL MODEL THAT COULD
11:43:19AM BE A PHYSICAL OFFICE OR SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A WEBSITE.
11:43:25AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FOUND MYSELF PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT.
11:43:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOUNDS LIKE A WHITE PAPER IN COLLEGE.
11:43:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS.
11:43:33AM WE SPOKE ON IT, I GUESS THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY, WE SPOKE
11:43:36AM ON IT, AND YOU COULD TELL WES'S PASSION AND HOW MUCH HE
11:43:42AM BELIEVES IN THE TOPIC AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
11:43:44AM A LOT OF THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE ME WAS VERY PIVOTAL.
11:43:46AM I JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:43:48AM AS I DO FOR MY INTERNS, I GOT YOU A PRESENT, WHICH IS FUNNY.
11:43:51AM WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR COFFEE THAT DAY --
11:43:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SURE, MAKE THE REST OF US LOOK BAD.
11:43:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: MINE ARE ALWAYS TAILORED TO THE NEED.
11:43:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEY, LEO, IF YOU ARE LISTENING TO IT,
11:43:58AM DON'T EXPECT A PRESENT.
11:44:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO, WE TALKED ABOUT, WES, LIKE I SAID, IS A
11:44:04AM VERY BIG LED ZEPPELIN FAN.
11:44:06AM I DIDN'T GET YOU SOMETHING OF LED ZEPPELIN, BUT I MENTIONED
11:44:08AM TO YOU THE TIME THAT JIMMY PAGE OF LED ZEPPELIN TRIED TO
11:44:13AM MAKE ROBERT PLANT JEALOUS AND GET HIM INTO DOING A REUNION
11:44:15AM TOUR WITH HIM BY GOING WITH DAVID COVERDALE OF WHITE SNAKE
11:44:18AM AND FORMERLY OF DEEP PURPLE TO DO AN ALBUM.
11:44:21AM I GOT YOU, WHICH IS REALLY COOL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT ALBUM.
11:44:27AM BUT COVERDALE-PAGE, WHICH IS REALLY -- THIS IS LIKE -- TO ME
11:44:27AM THIS IS A GREAT ALBUM.
11:44:27AM AGAIN, IT WAS LIKE A MOVE TO GET SOMEBODY BACK.
11:44:30AM BUT I THINK YOU'LL LIKE IT.
11:44:32AM DAVID COVERDALE AND JIMMY PAGE.
11:44:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO DE-GEEK YOU AFTER
11:44:39AM LEAVING THIS OFFICE?
11:44:40AM >> THAT IS AMAZING.
11:44:41AM I JUST STARTED COLLECTING RECORDS.
11:44:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO BE ROOMMATES
11:44:53AM WITH ADAM.
11:44:54AM SOME OF THE BEST IDEAS COME FROM COLLEGE STUDENTS AND YOUNG
11:44:57AM PEOPLE.
11:44:57AM I ALWAYS SAY THIS, ALEXANDER THE GREAT RULED THE WORLD AT
11:45:01AM 23.
11:45:01AM OF COURSE, HE WAS A PRINCE, BUT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE INNOVATING
11:45:06AM AND DEVELOPING THINGS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
11:45:09AM YOU ALL MAY COME UP WITH BRILLIANT -- PROBABLY WILL COME UP
11:45:13AM WITH BRILLIANT IDEAS THAT WILL HELP US AS YOU REFLECT ON
11:45:16AM YOUR EXPERIENCE HERE AND WATCH FROM AFAR.
11:45:18AM PLEASE CALL US IF YOU HAVE IDEAS.
11:45:20AM IF ONE OF US SAYS NO, CALL THE REST OF US AND SEE IF WE
11:45:24AM SUPPORT IT.
11:45:24AM HOPE YOU GUYS COME UP WITH SOMETHING GREAT.
11:45:27AM WHEN YOU GET READY TO COME BACK, MY SON GRADUATED FROM FSU A
11:45:31AM YEAR AGO.
11:45:32AM IF YOU GO TO THE CAREER SERVICES DEPARTMENT THERE, THEY
11:45:34AM WON'T HAVE LOTS OF JOBS FROM TAMPA.
11:45:36AM THERE IS A GREAT NETWORK IN TAMPA.
11:45:38AM WE'LL CONNECT YOU, AND YOU CAN EASILY GET CONNECTED, LOTS OF
11:45:42AM OPPORTUNITIES HERE, BUT WE NEED REALLY SMART, MOTIVATED
11:45:45AM PEOPLE BACK IN TAMPA.
11:45:47AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:45:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEEN A PLEASURE HAVING YOU IN THE OFFICE.
11:45:51AM REALLY JOYFUL.
11:45:52AM ALWAYS HAVE A SMILE ON YOUR FACE.
11:45:54AM NICE HAVING YOU HERE.
11:45:55AM GOOD LUCK AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RETURN TO TAMPA.
11:45:58AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:45:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:46:00AM WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM 75, COUNCILMAN VIERA, THIS IS YOUR
11:46:04AM ITEM.
11:46:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:06AM WES, AFTER THIS I'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU.
11:46:08AM MEET YOU OUTSIDE, IF I MAY.
11:46:10AM I'LL SPEAK AFTER MS. WYNN.
11:46:17AM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
11:46:21AM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
11:46:23AM YOU ASKED ME TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO SPEAK ON THE
11:46:26AM DISABILITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
11:46:29AM TWOFOLD, INQUIRE WHICH DEPARTMENTS ARE ACCEPTING INTERNS.
11:46:34AM THE OTHER PIECE IS, IF THEY ARE NOT, WHY.
11:46:38AM FIRST ANSWER, THE WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS, ADA, T & I,
11:46:45AM TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION, PARKS AND RECREATION ARE THE
11:46:49AM DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE ACCEPTED INTERNS.
11:46:52AM TO GET TO THE WHY.
11:46:54AM I THINK THE ANSWER TO THE WHY IS TWOFOLD.
11:46:56AM OR TWO PROBLEMS WE'RE SOLVING.
11:46:59AM ONE PROBLEM IS TO INCREASE THE DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATION IN
11:47:04AM THE PROGRAM, AND THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED
11:47:08AM IS HOW TO STRENGTHEN THE CURRENT GAPS IN THE PROGRAM OR THE
11:47:12AM WEAKNESSES SO THAT WE CAN REALIZE A SUSTAINABLE PROGRAM
11:47:17AM GOING FORWARD.
11:47:18AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SOLVING ONE PROBLEM AND
11:47:22AM OVERLOOKING THE OTHER.
11:47:24AM IF WE ADDRESS THE INCREASING THE DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATION
11:47:30AM WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE CURRENT CHALLENGES, IT WILL CONTINUE
11:47:33AM TO INCREASE FRUSTRATION.
11:47:37AM I KNOW THERE'S BEEN FRUSTRATION FROM YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA,
11:47:41AM FRUSTRATION FROM THE SERVICE PROVIDERS, FRUSTRATION FROM
11:47:45AM STAFF, AND, UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN ONLY THINK THAT THERE'S
11:47:50AM FRUSTRATION FROM THE INTERNS THEMSELVES.
11:47:52AM SO WE NEED TO FIX THAT.
11:47:53AM SO THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE
11:47:59AM ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM?
11:48:00AM HOW DO WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE WHY?
11:48:02AM WHEN WE UNDERSTAND THE WHY, WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO THE
11:48:06AM HOW.
11:48:07AM HOW DO WE FIX IT?
11:48:09AM TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN COUNCIL AND YOU APPROVED THE
11:48:14AM INTELLECTUAL INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, IT WAS APPROVED AS A PILOT.
11:48:20AM I THINK THAT THE PROGRAM SERVED ITS PURPOSE SINCE 2023 IN
11:48:25AM TERMS OF A PILOT BY HELPING US ADDRESS WHAT ARE THOSE
11:48:31AM ISSUES?
11:48:31AM WHAT ARE THE FEASIBILITIES?
11:48:32AM HOW EFFECTIVE IS THE PROBLEM?
11:48:34AM WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES BEFORE WE EXPAND THIS FULL SCALE?
11:48:37AM AS A RESULT OF THAT, I'M READY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO
11:48:43AM GOING FORWARD.
11:48:44AM SO ASSESSING AND HEARING THE SERVICE PROVIDERS AND HEARING
11:48:50AM FROM THE SUPERVISORS OF THE PROGRAMS, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED
11:48:56AM CERTAIN OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE.
11:48:59AM THE SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE COMPLAINED THAT THE WHOLE PROCESS
11:49:03AM IS TAKING TOO LONG, THAT THE INTERNS ARE, IF THEY ARE
11:49:10AM PROPERLY PLACED, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE A CONTINUAL
11:49:14AM GROWTH IN THAT POSITION?
11:49:17AM INTERNALLY, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME FORTH, BOTH
11:49:21AM REAL AND PERCEIVED FROM OUR STAFF AND THE SUPERVISORS IS THE
11:49:28AM HIGH DEMAND ON SUPERVISION, THE PACE OF SOME OF THE WORK
11:49:32AM ENVIRONMENTS FOR THE INTERNS, AS WELL AS THE LACK OF STAFF
11:49:37AM TRAINING SPECIFICALLY FOR EFFECTIVE SUPPORT STRATEGIES AND
11:49:42AM DISABILITY ETIQUETTE.
11:49:45AM EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ADA TRAINING, WE DON'T HAVE THAT
11:49:49AM TRAINING THAT'S TAILORED TO HOW TO HELP THE STUDENTS GROW
11:49:55AM AND THRIVE IN INTERNSHIP ENVIRONMENT.
11:49:58AM SO WHAT I DID, I RESEARCHED LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AROUND
11:50:03AM THE NATION WHO HAVE A SIMILAR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM SO THAT WE
11:50:07AM CAN PULL FROM THE BEST PRACTICES.
11:50:10AM AND IN DOING THAT, LET ME FIRST SAY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
11:50:13AM HOW WE'RE SIMILAR.
11:50:16AM THE SIMILARITIES FROM WHAT A LOT OF THE AGENCIES ARE DOING,
11:50:19AM MOST OF THEM ARE DOING AND WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS DOING,
11:50:22AM IS THAT WE HAVE A PAID INTERNSHIP.
11:50:25AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
11:50:26AM THE ORGANIZATIONS OR AGENCIES THAT ARE LOOKED AT WERE THE
11:50:36AM MULTNOMAH COUNTY, OREGON, AND THE UNIQUENESS ABOUT THIS --
11:50:46AM THE PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE IS THEY PARTNER WITH THE
11:50:50AM NONPROFIT AGENCIES TO DELIVER THE PROGRAM.
11:50:53AM WE DON'T DO THAT.
11:50:54AM THE WISCONSIN BOARD FOR PEOPLE WITH DEVELOPMENT
11:51:01AM DISABILITIES, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A STATE BOARD, THEY ALIGN
11:51:05AM CLOSELY WITH THE LOCAL AGENCIES.
11:51:09AM THEY USE THEIR PROGRAM TO PLACE THEIR INTERNS IN STATE
11:51:16AM AGENCIES, AS WELL AS WITHIN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND DISABILITY
11:51:20AM ORGANIZATIONS.
11:51:21AM A UNIQUE FEATURE OF THIS PROGRAM IS NOT ONLY IS THE INTERN
11:51:28AM ABLE TO REALIZE THE INTERNSHIP, BUT IF FAMILY MEMBERS WHO
11:51:32AM ARE TAKING CARE OR WHO HAVE INTERNS OR FAMILY MEMBERS WITH
11:51:38AM DISABILITIES MAY ALSO PARTAKE OF THAT AS WELL.
11:51:41AM THE CONNECTICUT DEPARTMENT OF AGING AND DISABILITY SERVICES,
11:51:49AM THERE ARE AGENCY-SPECIFIC INTERNSHIPS.
11:51:51AM WHAT THAT MEANS IS THIS.
11:51:53AM THEY PARTNER WITH A HOSPITAL OR SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY, AND
11:51:59AM THAT'S ALL THEY PARTNER WITH TO PROVIDE CUSTOMER SERVICE
11:52:02AM SKILLS OR IF IT IS A HOSPITAL, THE CULINARY KITCHEN TYPE
11:52:10AM SKILLS.
11:52:11AM THEY USE A WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIP OR SOME TYPE OF AGENCY AS
11:52:15AM THE LIAISON.
11:52:16AM AND THE CITY OF CHICAGO, THEY OFFER BROAD MUNICIPAL
11:52:23AM INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, AND THEY SPONSOR THE PAID INTERNSHIP.
11:52:28AM AGAIN, THEY HAVE ANOTHER ENTITY LEADING THE CHARGE AND THE
11:52:32AM CAUSE.
11:52:33AM THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT STOOD
11:52:38AM UP WITH HAVING SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS, AND NOT JUST HAVING A
11:52:42AM PROGRAM.
11:52:44AM SO SOME OF THE KEY OBSERVATIONS AND TAKEAWAYS ARE THAT MOST
11:52:48AM OF THESE LOCAL GOVERNMENT INTERNSHIPS FOR PEOPLE WITH
11:52:51AM DISABILITIES ARE EMBEDDED IN AN INCLUSION PROGRAM OR WITHIN
11:52:58AM A WORKFORCE TYPE PATHWAY PROGRAM SO THAT THESE INTERNS CAN
11:53:03AM LEARN A PATHWAY OR SUSTAINABLE SKILLS RATHER THAN JUST DOING
11:53:06AM A JOB.
11:53:07AM THEY CAN DEVELOP SKILLS TO TAKE THEM FURTHER.
11:53:10AM MANY OF THESE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, THEY ADOPT
11:53:15AM STRUCTURED MODELS, AS I MENTIONED, BY PARTNERING WITH A ZOO
11:53:20AM OR PARTNERING WITH A HOSPITAL.
11:53:24AM THEY ALL PROVIDE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE DON'T DO.
11:53:28AM 101 -- ONE ON ONE COACHES, PEER MENTORS OR A BUDDY SYSTEM.
11:53:35AM ALL OF THEM OFFER TRAINING OR REQUIRE TRAINING FOR THE
11:53:40AM PEOPLE ON THE RECEIVING END OF THE INTERNSHIP SO THEY'LL
11:53:43AM KNOW HOW TO CONDUCT DISABILITY ETIQUETTE OR IF THERE'S SOME
11:53:49AM TYPE OF CHALLENGING SITUATION, THEY'LL KNOW WHAT AVENUE OR
11:53:52AM HOW TO NAVIGATE THOSE.
11:53:54AM SO I JUST WANTED JUST TO SAY -- SO REALIZING THAT WE WERE
11:54:00AM HERE AND WHAT WE DEEMED AS A PILOT, WE LEARNED ALL THE
11:54:04AM FAILURES OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE.
11:54:07AM SO BASED ON SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES, I WOULD LIKE TO
11:54:11AM PROPOSE THAT WE COME BACK, BRING BACK, IMPLEMENT SOME OF
11:54:14AM THOSE BEST PRACTICES TO IMPROVE THE OUTPUT AND OUTCOMES OF
11:54:19AM THIS PROGRAM GOING FORWARD.
11:54:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.
11:54:24AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:54:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:26AM THANK YOU, MS. WYNN.
11:54:27AM YOU ALWAYS WORK REALLY HARD AND YOU WEAR A LOT OF HATS.
11:54:30AM IN FACT, I SAID YOU WEAR TOO MANY HATS, YOU KNOW WHAT I
11:54:34AM MEAN, AND ALWAYS A HARD WORKER.
11:54:36AM YOU MENTIONED THAT I WAS FRUSTRATED.
11:54:39AM MY PATIENCE HAS WORN THIN AND I'M DISILLUSIONED.
11:54:44AM I'LL GO THROUGH A TIMELINE I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT.
11:54:46AM I UNDERSTAND ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY BUT WE'VE HAD MORE
11:54:51AM THAN A DAY AND THIS AIN'T ROME.
11:54:53AM THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WITH
11:54:56AM REGARDS TO A TIMELINE.
11:54:58AM IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS.
11:54:59AM I WENT TO A McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER EVENT THAT HAD A
11:55:02AM PROGRAM LIKE THIS.
11:55:03AM BY GOLLY, WOULDN'T THIS BE A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY OF
11:55:05AM TAMPA TO DO.
11:55:07AM THAT YEAR I PROPOSED THAT IT PASS IN THE BUDGET IN 2022.
11:55:10AM PASSES.
11:55:11AM SIX FIGURE INVESTMENT.
11:55:12AM $15 AN HOUR INTERNSHIP OF PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, THREE
11:55:16AM YEARS AGO.
11:55:16AM SOME TIME PASSES BY, I GO, HEY, LOOK, LET'S STAY ON THIS.
11:55:22AM PUSH A PROGRAM, CAN'T JUST THROW IT ON PEOPLE, OKAY, THY
11:55:26AM WILL BE DONE.
11:55:27AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY.
11:55:28AM JULY OF 2023, WE GET A REPORT TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING AND HOW
11:55:31AM THINGS ARE GOING.
11:55:32AM THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.
11:55:34AM CREATIVE LOAFING DOES AN ARTICLE IN JULY OF 2023 ON THE
11:55:39AM PROGRAM AND THE PROMISE IS MADE AND THINGS THAT ARE GOING
11:55:41AM WITH IT, RIGHT?
11:55:42AM SO WE'VE GOT THAT.
11:55:44AM AND THEN I GO, GREAT, OKAY, THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD.
11:55:47AM THINGS BEING DONE AND SO FORTH.
11:55:50AM SO WE HAVE A MEETING THEN IN APRIL OF 2024 WHERE WE BRING
11:55:54AM OUT THE TWO INTERNS WHO ARE PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
11:55:56AM DURING THAT TIME, I HAVE A MEETING WHERE, AGAIN, THIS IS HOW
11:56:00AM I WORK.
11:56:00AM BEFORE I COME OUT IN PUBLIC AND SAY I'M DISILLUSIONED AND
11:56:04AM LACK PAY.
11:56:04AM DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PATIENCE AND SO FORTH, I HAVE PRIVATE
11:56:07AM MEETINGS WHERE I TELL FOLKS I'M HAVING THESE ISSUES.
11:56:10AM BEFORE I MAKE THEM PUBLIC, I WANT TO PRIVATELY DISCUSS THEM.
11:56:12AM THAT'S WHAT I DID WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, CHIEF BENNETT AND
11:56:16AM OTHERS.
11:56:17AM I MET WITH THEM AND SAID, LOOK, WE HAVE MAJOR ISSUES IN THE
11:56:20AM PROGRAM.
11:56:20AM YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, AND I DON'T SEE MUCH OF
11:56:23AM ANYTHING.
11:56:24AM THERE IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS IN SUCH CRITICAL NEED OF THE
11:56:27AM BENEFITS OF THIS PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
11:56:30AM THAT'S IN APRIL OF 2024.
11:56:32AM HERE WE ARE.
11:56:34AM IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS SINCE CITY COUNCIL PASSED THIS, AND
11:56:37AM HERE WE ARE.
11:56:38AM I DO THINK A RECITATION OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM IS
11:56:45AM IMPORTANT.
11:56:45AM I ASKED WHERE THE MONEY WENT FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS.
11:56:48AM WENT BACK IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR.
11:56:50AM ORGANIZATIONS WERE GIVEN THE MONEY THAT CAN HELP IN THIS
11:56:52AM CRITICAL FIELD OF EMPLOYMENT FOR PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS,
11:56:55AM BUT THE INTENT OF THE PROGRAM WAS TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:56:58AM A STAKEHOLDER IN EMPLOYING PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL
11:57:02AM DISABILITIES, AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
11:57:04AM AND IT WILL BE DONE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL
11:57:07AM HEART.
11:57:08AM BUT THE THING IS THAT WE NEED TO INQUIRE ON WHAT DEPARTMENTS
11:57:12AM ARE GOING TO BE.
11:57:13AM IT'S NOT EVERY DEPARTMENT CAN WORK ON IT.
11:57:15AM THERE IS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF INTERNS WE CAN HAVE UNDER THE
11:57:18AM BUDGET.
11:57:19AM WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENTS WILL WORK ON IT.
11:57:22AM WHICH ONES WON'T AND SO FORTH.
11:57:24AM WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE TWO INTERNS WHO WERE HERE.
11:57:26AM I CITE ONE OF THEM, ERIC, A NICE YOUNG MAN WHO IS WITH US.
11:57:30AM I'VE SEEN ERIC GROW IN THAT POSITION.
11:57:34AM ERIC IS A FINE YOUNG MAN.
11:57:35AM HIS MOM AND DAD VERY PROUD OF HIM.
11:57:38AM FAMILY PROUD OF HIM.
11:57:39AM ERIC WILL BE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL TO TALK TO US ABOUT WAYS
11:57:42AM IN WHICH PEOPLE WITH AUTISM CAN PUT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
11:57:46AM ON NOTICE WHENEVER THEY ARE PULLED OVER THAT THEY HAVE
11:57:49AM AUTISM.
11:57:50AM YOU TALK ABOUT A YOUNG MAN WHO IS WORKING AND COMING FROM
11:57:53AM HIS HEART AND WHO IS ABLE TO EXPAND HIS HORIZONS, EXPAND HIS
11:57:57AM WINGS, FULFILL HIS GOD GIVEN POTENTIAL THROUGH THE PROGRAM.
11:58:00AM WE SHOULD HAVE HAD 15, 20 ERICS BY NOW.
11:58:04AM AGAIN, MY BIG THING IS WHEN A COMMITMENT IS MADE ON A
11:58:08AM PROGRAM LIKE THIS, RIGHT, THERE'S GOT TO EVENTUALLY BE SOME
11:58:13AM REALIZATION OF THE COMMITMENTS MADE.
11:58:15AM THAT'S MY BIG ISSUE.
11:58:17AM BECAUSE THIS ISN'T JUST A PROGRAM.
11:58:20AM THIS IS A PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
11:58:24AM SOME ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST ABOUT A DOZEN FOLKS
11:58:27AM WHO COULD HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE PROGRAM WHO ARE PROBABLY
11:58:31AM RIGHT NOW AT HOME.
11:58:32AM THAT'S WHY I'M FRUSTRATED.
11:58:33AM BEFORE I COME OUT AND SAY, HERE, LOOK, HERE IS THE TIMELINE.
11:58:36AM THIS IS WHY I'M FRUSTRATED, I ALWAYS GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE.
11:58:40AM I DON'T LIKE TO START OFF FROM A NINE OUT OF TEN.
11:58:43AM THAT'S SOMETHING VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
11:58:45AM I SAW YESTERDAY, COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THIS, IN THE CITY
11:58:48AM OF TAMPA SOCIAL MEDIA SITE, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
11:58:51AM INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THEY HAVE HERE, WHICH IS GREAT.
11:58:54AM STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS.
11:58:55AM WHY IN THE HELL AREN'T WE DOING THIS FOR PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL
11:58:59AM NEEDS.
11:58:59AM THAT'S WHAT I ASK.
11:59:00AM THAT'S WHAT PARENTS ARE ASKING.
11:59:02AM THAT IS THE BIG ISSUE THAT I'M MAKING INQUIRIES ON, WHICH IS
11:59:06AM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS GOT TO BE A STAKEHOLDER ON THIS ISSUE.
11:59:09AM WE HAVE APPROPRIATED THE MONEY.
11:59:10AM THE ADMINISTRATION SAID YES.
11:59:12AM SO MY ISSUE IS, WHY ISN'T THIS GOING FORWARD THREE YEARS
11:59:16AM LATER?
11:59:17AM WHEN A COMMITMENT IS MADE TO ME ON SOMETHING, ON SOMETHING
11:59:20AM SO DEEPLY PERSONAL TO ME THAT IS THE CAUSE OF MY LIFE IN
11:59:23AM TERMS OF MY OLDEST BROTHER, INTELLECTUALLY DISABLED AND SO
11:59:26AM FORTH, I TAKE THAT VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY.
11:59:29AM SO THAT'S WHY I'M FRUSTRATED ON THIS.
11:59:30AM A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE SPECIAL NEEDS -- I'LL MAKE MOTIONS
11:59:36AM ON THIS, IF I MAY NOW OR WHENEVER, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE BUDGET
11:59:40AM FOR THIS COMES OUT OF THE NONPROFITS.
11:59:42AM I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT'S INTERNAL.
11:59:45AM IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FOR NONPROFITS.
11:59:48AM IT'S INTERNAL FOR US.
11:59:49AM I WAS GOING TO MOTION THAT IN THIS YEAR, THESE FUNDS,
11:59:52AM $100,000, COME FROM THE GENERAL BUDGET.
11:59:55AM WE WERE TOLD THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU HAVE $100,000
11:59:59AM FOR NONPROFITS.
12:00:01PM BY THE WAY, VIERA, THE NONPROFIT INCLUDES THE SPECIAL NEEDS
12:00:04PM INTERNSHIP WHICH, BY THE WAY, IF WE FUNDED A BILLION
12:00:07PM DOLLARS, WE PROBABLY STILL HAVE ONLY TWO INTERNS.
12:00:10PM THAT'S PART OF MY FRUSTRATION.
12:00:11PM AND THEN I'M ALSO GOING TO MOTION THAT STARTING IN
12:00:15PM SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE MONTHLY REPORTS, WRITTEN, WRITTEN ON THE
12:00:19PM NUMBER OF INTERNS HIRED AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO FILL THIS
12:00:22PM PROGRAM TO CAPACITY.
12:00:23PM I DON'T LIKE TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
12:00:25PM BUT THREE YEARS, A THOUSAND DAYS, THAT IS THE LENGTH OF JOHN
12:00:29PM F. KENNEDY'S PRESIDENCY, RIGHT, WE'RE STILL HERE.
12:00:32PM THAT'S WHAT I FEEL WE HAVE TO DO.
12:00:34PM UNLESS ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE,
12:00:37PM THOSE ARE THE MOTIONS I'LL BE MAKING.
12:00:39PM AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION DOING THIS, THE
12:00:42PM ADMINISTRATION IS DOING THAT AND SO FORTH.
12:00:44PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY PERSONAL TO ME AND THAT
12:00:47PM WE NEED TO HAVE MOVEMENT ON.
12:00:49PM AGAIN, YOU'RE A WONDERFUL PERSON, A WOMAN OF EMPATHY AND
12:00:53PM COMPASSION.
12:00:54PM EVERYBODY IN THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT, MAN, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE
12:00:57PM THIS A PRIORITY BECAUSE FAILURE TO DO SO ULTIMATELY LEAVES A
12:01:01PM LOT OF PEOPLE BEHIND WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO BE LEFT BEHIND.
12:01:04PM THANK YOU.
12:01:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOUR REQUEST FOR REPORT
12:01:09PM WILL BE APPROPRIATE FOR NEW BUSINESS AT TODAY'S COUNCIL
12:01:11PM SESSION.
12:01:12PM FOR THE FINANCIAL ISSUE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT 26 MONEY?
12:01:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:01:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO
12:01:18PM BRING TO THE '26 BUDGET DISCUSSION, DURING THOSE
12:01:21PM DISCUSSIONS.
12:01:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
12:01:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:01:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TO SAY WHAT THE REALITY IS ON THESE
12:01:29PM THINGS.
12:01:30PM THE ONLY WAY TO GET -- WE CAN ALLOCATE MONEY, BUT THE
12:01:34PM ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
12:01:35PM THE ONLY TIME THEY MOVE FORWARD IS IF THEY CAN POST ON
12:01:38PM SOCIAL MEDIA OR SEND OUT A PRESS RELEASE SAYING THIS IS THE
12:01:41PM MAYOR'S IDEA AND PART OF TRANSFORMING PART OF TAMPA'S
12:01:45PM TOMORROW.
12:01:45PM WHATEVER MOTION YOU MAKE, YOU OUGHT TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM THE
12:01:48PM MAYOR'S IDEA AND PART OF TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S TOMORROW AND
12:01:52PM THEN IT WILL GET DONE.
12:01:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
12:01:56PM I GUESS YOU'LL SIT THERE FOR A WHILE BECAUSE WE HAVE A
12:02:00PM COUPLE OTHER ISSUES.
12:02:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
12:02:03PM I SHARE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S SENTIMENT, THE GREAT WORK YOU
12:02:07PM DO.
12:02:07PM YOU HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
12:02:09PM THANK YOU FOR PERSONALLY COMING AND TALKING TO US AND
12:02:13PM SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ON AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM.
12:02:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
12:02:15PM NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM 76, KILEY GARDENS.
12:02:19PM >>OCEA WYNN: ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
12:02:22PM AFFAIRS.
12:02:24PM ASKED TO PROVIDE A FIVE-MINUTE UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF KILEY
12:02:27PM GARDENS AND THE PARKING GARAGE LOCATED BENEATH.
12:02:31PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THE LAYOUT OF
12:02:35PM THE ASSETS, THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE AN
12:02:38PM OWNERSHIP IN THE GARDEN, IN THE STRUCTURE.
12:02:44PM IF YOU CAN IMAGINE HAMBURGER MENUS, BOTTOM LAYER, MIDDLE
12:02:50PM LAYER AND TOP LAYER.
12:02:52PM FOR THE BOTTOM LAYER, THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH WE WERE
12:02:55PM ASKED TO SPEAK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, THAT PART OF THE ASSET
12:03:00PM BELONGS TO THE PARKING DIVISION.
12:03:02PM IN THE MIDDLE LAYER, WE KNOW WE HAVE CHALLENGES WITH WATER
12:03:05PM INTRUSION.
12:03:06PM THAT'S FACILITY MANAGEMENT.
12:03:08PM AND THE TOP LAYER, THE PARK PIECE, THAT'S PARKS AND
12:03:13PM RECREATION.
12:03:14PM SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAKING THE REPAIRS, WE HAVE TO MAKE
12:03:17PM THEM FROM BOTTOM UP.
12:03:19PM FRED IS HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED WITH
12:03:27PM THE PARKING GARAGE PIECE.
12:03:29PM ONCE WE GET THAT DONE, WE CAN GO UP TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND
12:03:33PM THE NEXT LEVEL.
12:03:34PM FED, OH, YOU'RE RIGHT HERE.
12:03:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING OR GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:03:40PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:03:41PM GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR.
12:03:43PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU SENT OUT AN E-MAIL REQUESTING
12:03:47PM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
12:03:47PM NOT SURE IF YOU WANTED ME TO GO OVER THE PARKING NUMBERS
12:03:50PM NOW.
12:03:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE, IF YOU'VE GOT THEM.
12:03:53PM >> AS MS. OCEA WAS STATING, ON THE PARKING SIDE WE HAVE DONE
12:03:58PM SOME WORK GOING BACK TO 2019.
12:04:01PM WORKING WITH CONTRACT ADMIN, WE HAVE DESIGN ASPECT AND WE
12:04:05PM ALSO HAVE A CONSTRUCTION ASPECT.
12:04:07PM GOING BACK TO 2019 WE SPENT $30,500 TO DO DESIGN SERVICES
12:04:13PM FOR CONSTRUCTION WORK AS FAR AS LIKE HIGH PRIORITY REPAIRS.
12:04:17PM WE DID THOSE REPAIRS BACK IN 2021.
12:04:21PM IT AMOUNTED TO 160,000.
12:04:24PM GOING BACK, WE NEEDED TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK, SO WE ISSUED
12:04:28PM ANOTHER WORK ORDER FOR DESIGN SERVICES.
12:04:30PM THAT WAS FOR 77,500.
12:04:33PM THAT REPORT, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY CONSTRUCTION WORK WITH IT.
12:04:39PM IT IS AMOUNTING TO OVER 1.1 MILLION TO DO ALL THE REPAIR
12:04:44PM THAT CAME OUT OF THAT $77,000 DESIGN WORK.
12:04:48PM WE ALSO DID ON BEHALF OF PARKS AND REC, CONTRACTED WITH
12:04:53PM CONTRACT ADMIN WITH MOORE.
12:04:55PM WE SPENT ANOTHER 89,500.
12:04:57PM THAT'S TO LOOK AT WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO REPAIR KILEY GARDENS
12:05:02PM BECAUSE THE WATER IS COMING FROM THE TOP DOWN TO THE GARAGE.
12:05:05PM NO MATTER WHAT REPAIR WE DO IN THE GARAGE ITSELF, UNTIL
12:05:10PM KILEY GARDENS GETS REPAIRED, PARKING WILL CONTINUALLY HAVE
12:05:15PM TO DO REPAIR IN THE GARAGE ITSELF.
12:05:17PM FROM THE 89,000 DESIGN SERVICES THAT CAME BACK, IT WAS OVER
12:05:20PM 11 MILLION FOR PARKS AND REC TO FULLY REPAIR KILEY GARDENS.
12:05:27PM TO MAKE IT ESSENTIALLY SEAL IT, WATER PROOF SO THAT WAY
12:05:30PM PARKING DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE SPENDING MONEY REPAIRING THE
12:05:35PM JOINTS AND EXPANSION, CONCRETE SLABS AND ALL OF THAT.
12:05:40PM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, PARKS AND REC HAVE NOT SPENT ANY MONEY
12:05:47PM WORKING ON KILEY GARDENS.
12:05:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THIS IS NOT A NEW THING.
12:05:51PM THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON AT LEAST 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS.
12:05:54PM THE PROBLEM IS, IT'S BUILT UNDERGROUND.
12:05:57PM THE CARS ARE UNDERGROUND, REALLY.
12:05:59PM YOU'LL HAVE SEEPAGE.
12:06:00PM YOU HAVE THE RIVER.
12:06:02PM PLANTS HAVE TO BE WATERED.
12:06:03PM WATER GOING THROUGH CONCRETE, NO MATTER HOW STRONG IT IS,
12:06:06PM WILL LEAK, SOONER OR LATER AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE
12:06:11PM PROBLEM.
12:06:12PM I'M NOT GOING TO SAY INCORRECTLY DONE, BUT IT'S BEEN NOT AN
12:06:20PM ASSET, BUT FEEDING SOMETHING THAT WILL ALWAYS NEED
12:06:25PM MAINTENANCE BECAUSE OF WHERE IT'S AT.
12:06:28PM CONTINUOUS MAINTENANCE IN WHAT IT NEEDS.
12:06:32PM >> AS PART OF OUR LEASE AGREEMENT, WE HAVE TO DO ALL CIP
12:06:36PM PROJECTS IN THE GARAGE.
12:06:37PM IT'S PER CONTRACT.
12:06:38PM WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE REPAIRING WHENEVER WE HAVE WATER
12:06:42PM REPAIRS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
12:06:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS GOING TO BE PART OF MY FIRST
12:06:46PM QUESTION IS, WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE GARAGE?
12:06:50PM >> THE GARAGE IS TWO LEVELS.
12:06:51PM THE VERY, VERY BOTTOM LEVEL IS OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER,
12:06:56PM BEN --
12:06:56PM THE SECOND LEVEL IS OWNED BY THE CITY UNDER THE PARKING
12:07:00PM DIVISION.
12:07:00PM THAT IS THE LEVEL DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH THE PARK.
12:07:02PM THAT IS THE LEVEL THAT GET THE WATER INTRUSION FIRST.
12:07:05PM AND THEN WE LEASE THAT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
12:07:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE A CONTRACT WHERE WE ARE LIABLE FOR
12:07:18PM THAT $1 MILLION TO FIX THE WHOLE GARAGE?
12:07:21PM >> NO, JUST THE 1.1 MILLION IS THE TOP LEVEL THAT WE OWN.
12:07:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE BOTTOM LEVEL WHICH WE DO NOT OWN, HAS
12:07:31PM THERE BEEN ANY LOOK AT ANY WORK BEING DONE THERE?
12:07:34PM >> YES.
12:07:35PM THEY ARE WAITING ON US TO DO OUR WORK FIRST SO THAT WAY THEY
12:07:40PM CAN DO THEIR PART.
12:07:41PM UNTIL WE FIX -- LET'S SAY THE WATER IS COMING DOWN FROM
12:07:45PM KILEY GARDENS, MAKE IT DOWN TO THE VERY TOP LEVEL, IT WILL
12:07:49PM CONTINUE GOING TO THE BOTTOM LEVEL UNTIL WE FIX THE OTHER
12:07:52PM WATER LEAK.
12:07:53PM WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
12:07:55PM THEY ENGAGED THE SAME FIRM THAT WE HAVE JUST TO HAVE THE
12:08:00PM SAME FOLKS LOOKING AT IT.
12:08:02PM THEY ARE WAITING FOR US TO DO THAT 1.1 MILLION WORK, FOR
12:08:05PM THEM TO DO THEIR REPAIR.
12:08:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WASN'T THERE A SIGNIFICANT WATER INTRUSION
12:08:19PM DURING EITHER HELENE OR MILTON?
12:08:21PM >> YES.
12:08:21PM THEY FIXED THOSE REPAIRS.
12:08:23PM FORTUNATELY, FOR US, IT DID NOT REACH THE TOP LEVEL.
12:08:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT BASICALLY FLOODED OUT.
12:08:30PM >> THE BOTTOM LEVEL, YES.
12:08:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WAS THAT SIMPLY STORM SURGE OR DID IT COME UP
12:08:36PM FROM THE BOTTOM?
12:08:37PM BASICALLY I'M JUST SORT OF ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
12:08:41PM FEASIBILITY OF KEEPING THIS GARAGE.
12:08:44PM >> IT WAS ACTUALLY BOTH.
12:08:45PM THE STORM SURGE -- THE BOTTOM LEVEL IS BELOW SEA LEVEL,
12:08:50PM ESSENTIALLY.
12:08:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:08:51PM THAT'S BEEN ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
12:08:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON WANTED TO SPEAK BUT I
12:09:00PM DO HAVE A QUESTION.
12:09:01PM OBVIOUSLY, LONGTIME RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:09:03PM I'VE WATCHED THIS PARK.
12:09:05PM I KNOW WHEN WE -- DIDN'T WE ALREADY TRY TO RESEAL THIS AT
12:09:09PM SOME POINT?
12:09:10PM >> NOT THE PARK ITSELF.
12:09:12PM NO WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
12:09:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
12:09:16PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
12:09:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA SAID, I THINK
12:09:20PM THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL ATTEMPTS OVER THE LAST 20 OR 30
12:09:24PM YEARS, RIGHT?
12:09:25PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
12:09:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS A PROBLEM.
12:09:30PM BY THE WAY, I'M PARTLY ASKING THIS FOR FORMER CITY COUNCIL
12:09:34PM MEMBER LINDA SAUL-SENA.
12:09:38PM SHE REALLY LOVES THIS PARK AND BELIEVES IN IT, AS DO MANY
12:09:41PM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
12:09:43PM THE REAL QUESTION THE COMMUNITY HAS, FIRST, IS THE CITY
12:09:48PM PLANNING ON SCRAPING THE PARK OUT?
12:09:51PM AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE A TIMELINE
12:09:56PM TO RESTORE IT AND DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY PLANS TO DO THAT?
12:10:00PM >> THAT'S MORE PARKS AND REC.
12:10:04PM >>OCEA WYNN: ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
12:10:07PM AFFAIRS.
12:10:08PM WE'RE ENTERTAINING ALL OPTIONS.
12:10:10PM AND ONCE THE PARKS PIECE IS REPAIRED, WE ARE ON -- WE'LL ON
12:10:18PM BOARD A CONSULTANT TO HELP US WITH THE BEST USE OF THE PARK
12:10:24PM AND THE THINGS WE CAN DO SO WE WON'T CREATE THIS PROBLEM.
12:10:27PM AT THIS POINT, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU, COUNCIL
12:10:30PM MEMBER CARLSON, BUT WE ARE, IN FACT, LOOKING AT ALL THE
12:10:33PM OPTIONS.
12:10:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: BEST USE COULD MEAN THAT YOU WOULD SCRAPE IT
12:10:36PM AND DO SOMETHING ELSE.
12:10:38PM >>OCEA WYNN: IT COULD BE, IF THAT IS WHAT THE EXPERTS SAY,
12:10:41PM YES.
12:10:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO THROW ON THE TABLE, NOT RECENTLY,
12:10:45PM BUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, I WAS APPROACHED BY DIFFERENT
12:10:49PM LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS WHO HAD WORKED WITH DAN KILEY AND KNEW
12:10:55PM EXACTLY HOW TO RESTORE IT AND TALKED ABOUT HOW IT COULD BE
12:10:59PM DONE.
12:11:00PM I DON'T KNOW THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS, BUT THERE ARE
12:11:02PM PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY KNOW HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEMS AND RESTORE
12:11:05PM IT.
12:11:05PM I DON'T KNOW THE COST.
12:11:06PM THIS IS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CRA ALSO, I THINK.
12:11:11PM MAYBE IT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION FOR THE DOWNTOWN CRA AS WELL.
12:11:15PM I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL
12:11:20PM OPTIONS, LOOK AT ONE TO RESTORE IT AND THE OTHER ONE, AND
12:11:24PM THEN IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER OPTION.
12:11:27PM AND THEN LET'S PRESENT THE TWO OR THREE OPTIONS IN A PUBLIC
12:11:31PM HEARING, LET THE PUBLIC WEIGH IN AND THEN WE CAN SEE WHAT IS
12:11:35PM ALSO IN THE CRA.
12:11:36PM THERE'S GOT TO BE A HOLISTIC FIX, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE
12:11:40PM PRICE OF IT.
12:11:41PM SO LET'S SEE IT.
12:11:42PM AND ONCE AND FOR ALL, WE EITHER FIX IT OR DON'T FIX IT.
12:11:46PM IT'S BEEN HANGING OUT THERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME BEFORE ALL
12:11:49PM OF US WERE INVOLVED IN IT.
12:11:51PM THANK YOU.
12:11:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:11:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT $11 MILLION?
12:11:56PM >> THAT'S WHAT CAME OUT OF THE DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE PARK
12:12:00PM ITSELF.
12:12:00PM THAT WAS THEIR ESTIMATE LIKE TWO, THREE YEARS --
12:12:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TWO, THREE YEARS AGO.
12:12:06PM >> YES.
12:12:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW.
12:12:07PM THAT'S DOUBLED NOW.
12:12:10PM NOW IT'S 20 MILLION.
12:12:11PM THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU SAID.
12:12:12PM SO THERE IS SOME ESTIMATE ALREADY.
12:12:16PM >> YEAH, THAT WAS TO LITERALLY RIP EVERYTHING OUT AND SEAL
12:12:19PM EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE THE --
12:12:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
12:12:22PM THANK YOU.
12:12:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS MIGHT BE TO DIRECTOR, HAS THIS EVER
12:12:27PM BEEN IN THE C.I.P., KILEY GARDENS?
12:12:33PM >>OCEA WYNN: I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE.
12:12:35PM I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY
12:12:39PM ANYTHING, BUT SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION, I DON'T
12:12:42PM THINK IT HAS.
12:12:43PM I REALLY WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY THAT.
12:12:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO
12:12:49PM GET RESOLVED.
12:12:50PM YEAH, SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO BE LOOKING AT.
12:12:54PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:12:55PM ANYBODY WITH FURTHER QUESTIONS?
12:12:55PM WE'LL MOVE ON.
12:12:58PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:12:59PM NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS -- WE ARE NOW 77.
12:13:07PM BRANDON.
12:13:08PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:13:10PM BRANDON CAMPBELL, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE MOBILITY
12:13:13PM DEPARTMENT.
12:13:14PM JUST GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR MONTHLY
12:13:20PM OPERATIONS REPORT ON STORMWATER THAT IS AVAILABLE ON OUR
12:13:24PM WEBSITE, TAMPA.GOV/MOBILITY.
12:13:26PM YOU ALL CAN SEE THIS?
12:13:34PM >> YES.
12:13:35PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: OKAY.
12:13:36PM AS BEFORE, WE PUT OUT OUR MONTHLY REPORT ON THE WEBSITE.
12:13:39PM I WILL SHARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND SOME OF THE THINGS
12:13:42PM THAT HAVE CHANGED FROM MONTH TO MONTH OR FROM ONE YEAR TO
12:13:46PM THE NEXT, JUST TO GIVE AN OVERALL PICTURE OF WHERE WE ARE ON
12:13:51PM THE OPERATIONS SIDE OF THE STORMWATER PROGRAM.
12:13:54PM EACH MONTH, WE LIST OUT ALL OF THE CALLS THAT WE HAVE.
12:14:01PM I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT YEAR TO DATE, THE FIRST SIX
12:14:05PM MONTHS OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WE ARE AT 74% HIGHER CALL
12:14:10PM VOLUME COMPARED TO THE SAME TIME FRAME OF 2024.
12:14:15PM I THINK LAST MONTH, I MENTIONED TO YOU, MY EXPECTATION WOULD
12:14:18PM BE THAT DELTA, SORT OF NORMALIZES, REDUCES AS WE GET DEEPER
12:14:24PM INTO THE STORM SEASON KNOWING THE TRAJECTORY AND THE
12:14:27PM INCREASE IN CALL VOLUME LATE IN THE YEAR LAST YEAR, BUT IT
12:14:31PM IS A USEFUL METRICS FOR ME TO LOOK AT TO SEE WHAT THE
12:14:35PM INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY IS AND HOW IT HAS RISEN WITH
12:14:39PM RESPECT TO OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.
12:14:41PM I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE ARE AT
12:14:46PM ROUGHLY DOUBLE THE CALL VOLUME FROM JUNE OF 2024.
12:14:50PM I THINK THAT REFLECTS SOME SIGNIFICANT STORM EVENTS,
12:14:54PM INCLUDING ON JUNE 2nd, WHEN WE HAD, IT WAS ABOUT TWO AND A
12:14:58PM HALF INCHES OF RAIN OVER A 20-MINUTE PERIOD IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:15:02PM FOR THE MOST PART, THOSE CALLS OVER THE COURSE OF JUNE WERE
12:15:09PM MORE THAN HALF OVER FLOODING ISSUES OR IMPROPER DRAINAGE OR
12:15:13PM BACKUP ISSUES.
12:15:14PM AGAIN, SORT OF REFLECTING WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE WITH SOME
12:15:18PM OF THE LARGER EVENTS THAT HAPPENED DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE.
12:15:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST QUICKLY, IT SAYS CALLS FOR SERVICE,
12:15:24PM APRIL --
12:15:25PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THAT SHOULD SAY JUNE.
12:15:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
12:15:28PM THANK YOU.
12:15:31PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: A FEW HIGHLIGHTS FROM WHAT WE DID
12:15:34PM PERFORM THROUGH THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE RE-GRADED 3400 LINEAR
12:15:39PM FEET OF DITCHES AND MOWED 83 MILES OF DITCHES.
12:15:43PM I'VE MENTIONED TO YOU ALL BEFORE OUR MOWING CYCLE ON OUR
12:15:48PM DITCH SYSTEM IS 28 DAYS, BASICALLY ONCE A MONTH TO GET TO
12:15:52PM THAT.
12:15:52PM SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE DITCH SYSTEM,
12:15:55PM THAT'S TWOFOLD.
12:15:57PM GENERALLY, WE RE-GRADE AND REESTABLISH THAT FLOW LINE ON A
12:16:02PM SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF DITCHES OVER THE COURSE OF ANY GIVEN
12:16:05PM TIME FRAME, BUT WE DO CONTINUE TO MOW ON A REGULAR BASIS.
12:16:09PM OUR PONDS, WE REPAIRED 2884 LINEAR FEET OF FENCE.
12:16:16PM THAT'S JUST FENCING THAT IS AROUND THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE
12:16:19PM PART OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.
12:16:20PM GENERALLY, THAT'S DONE THROUGH CONTRACT LABOR, PARTICULARLY
12:16:24PM IF THERE ARE LARGER REPAIR REQUESTS, LARGER WORK ORDERS, AS
12:16:29PM I'LL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF IN JUST A MINUTE.
12:16:32PM OUR INTERNAL CREWS WILL DO MINOR REPAIRS ON THAT FENCE
12:16:37PM SYSTEM.
12:16:37PM WITH RESPECT TO CAVE-INS, WHEN I CAME BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH,
12:16:41PM WE WERE AT ABOUT A 50-50 SPLIT ON HOW MANY HAVE BEEN
12:16:45PM PERFORMED BY A CONTRACT AND HOW MANY HAVE BEEN PERFORMED BY
12:16:49PM OUR IN-HOUSE TEAM.
12:16:52PM THAT BALANCE HAS SHIFTED.
12:16:54PM WE DID 8 WITH IN-HOUSE CREWS AND 26 WITH CONTRACTOR CREWS.
12:16:58PM THAT IS REFLECTIVE, A LITTLE BIT OF OUR SHIFT TOWARD
12:17:03PM FOCUSING OUR IN-HOUSE CREWS ON MORE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, BUT
12:17:06PM ALSO GETTING THOSE CONTRACTS THAT WERE JUST GETTING UP TO
12:17:11PM SPEED OVER THAT PREVIOUS MONTHLY REPORT PERIOD AND GETTING
12:17:16PM THEM REALLY FOCUSED ON COMPLETING THAT BACKLOG OF CAVE-IN
12:17:20PM REPAIRS.
12:17:21PM AGAIN, THE REPORT ITSELF GOES THROUGH ALL OF OUR
12:17:30PM ACCOMPLISHMENTS WITH JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT I WANTED TO
12:17:32PM BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
12:17:34PM AS ALWAYS, CALLS FOR SERVICE, ANSWER THE PHONE 24/7.
12:17:40PM SOME HIGHLIGHTS, AGAIN, JUST VISUALLY OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE
12:17:47PM IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE RE-GRADED THE LEMON STREET DITCH.
12:17:54PM AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE SPIDER EXCAVATOR AND THE "DURING"
12:18:00PM PICTURE THERE.
12:18:00PM WE ALSO HAVE BEEN INSTALLING CAMERAS AT ALL OF OUR PUMP
12:18:03PM STATIONS.
12:18:04PM THEY SERVE A DUAL PURPOSE FOR MONITORING OF OPERATION AND
12:18:07PM JUST FOR SECURITY AS WELL.
12:18:09PM AGAIN, I BELIEVE I MENTIONED LAST MONTH THAT WE HAVE OUR
12:18:18PM IN-HOUSE CREWS DO SOME CONSTRUCTION AND REPAIR ON DAMAGED
12:18:24PM INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS SHOWN HERE WITH THE MORRISON AND
12:18:28PM GRADY INLET TOP REPAIR.
12:18:29PM LAST, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD DONE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF
12:18:35PM FENCE REPAIRS OR A SIGNIFICANT QUANTITY OF FENCE REPAIR OVER
12:18:39PM THE LAST MONTH.
12:18:40PM THIS PARTICULAR FENCE IS IN THE FOREST HILLS AREA AND HAD
12:18:45PM BEEN DAMAGED AND WAS MOSTLY MAYBE COMPLETELY REPLACED.
12:18:49PM EVERYTHING IN THE PICTURE AT LEAST WAS REPLACED ALTOGETHER.
12:18:52PM WITH THAT, I KNOW WE'LL DISCUSS IN MORE DEPTH AND MORE
12:18:59PM DETAIL AT THE UPCOMING BUDGET BREAKOUT.
12:19:01PM BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE GOT HERE NOW.
12:19:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:19:05PM FENCING, I WAS THINKING CHAIN-LINK FENCE, KEEPING PEOPLE OUT
12:19:13PM OF STORMWATER PONDS.
12:19:15PM WHAT DOES THE FENCING DO BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS
12:19:18PM ABOUT STORMWATER AND TODAY, YOU KNOW, WHY DO THEY DO
12:19:22PM FENCING?
12:19:23PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I THINK THE ANSWER WOULD BE DIFFERENT
12:19:25PM DEPENDING ON THE FACILITY.
12:19:26PM I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT BREAKDOWN, BUT GENERALLY OUR FENCING
12:19:32PM IS CHAIN-LINK FENCING.
12:19:33PM THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR HAPPENED TO BE LIKE A SPLIT RAIL OR
12:19:35PM SIMILAR TYPE OF FENCING.
12:19:37PM THAT ONE MAY HAVE BEEN IN PLACE IN PART FOR AESTHETIC
12:19:40PM PURPOSES.
12:19:41PM BUT TYPICALLY, WITH OUR STORMWATER PONDS, IF THERE IS A RISK
12:19:46PM THAT WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM INTERACTING WITH, WE'LL
12:19:49PM HAVE A CHAIN-LINK FENCE IN PLACE.
12:19:51PM THE BALANCE IS MORE TOWARD THAT CHAIN-LINK STYLE FENCE.
12:19:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE NEW EQUIPMENT THAT YOU
12:19:57PM HAVE ADDED?
12:19:57PM IT LOOKS LIKE THAT SPIDER.
12:19:59PM I BELIEVE THAT'S NEW AND/OR REPAIRED.
12:20:02PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THAT SPIDER IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE HAD
12:20:07PM ON HAND.
12:20:08PM I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT $12 MILLION
12:20:11PM BUDGET ALLOCATION EARLIER TODAY.
12:20:15PM AMONG THE THINGS THAT WE INTEND TO DO WITH THE STORMWATER
12:20:18PM PORTION OF THAT ALLOCATION IS TO ACQUIRE A NEW SPIDER SO WE
12:20:23PM WOULD HAVE TWO AT THAT POINT.
12:20:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT.
12:20:28PM JUST TO MAKE SURE, YOU'RE EXPECTING $3.5 MILLION FROM US.
12:20:34PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: FROM THAT BUDGET ALLOCATION.
12:20:36PM I THINK IT'S BROKEN DOWN.
12:20:39PM I THOUGHT IT WAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER.
12:20:41PM WHATEVER IS BROKEN DOWN.
12:20:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: INITIALLY IT WAS 2.5, PLUS THE 500 WE
12:20:46PM ALLOCATED EARLIER, BUT WE SAID NO, WE REALLY WANT IT TO BE
12:20:50PM THE 3.5.
12:20:51PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I WAS THINKING IT WAS 3.
12:20:53PM IF IT'S 3.5, WE'LL FIND A GOOD USE FOR THE ADDITIONAL.
12:20:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: INTENDED TO BE 3.5.
12:20:59PM PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF IT'S NOT.
12:21:02PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: UNDERSTOOD.
12:21:03PM THANK YOU.
12:21:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN TERMS OF THAT, WE DID GIVE THAT HALF A
12:21:06PM MILLION DOLLARS EARLY.
12:21:07PM WHAT HAVE YOU SPENT IT ON?
12:21:09PM HOW IS IT GOING?
12:21:10PM GIVE US A LITTLE UPDATE THERE.
12:21:13PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A
12:21:16PM COMPLETE BREAKDOWN.
12:21:17PM WE DO HAVE SOME EMERGENCY CONTRACTS IN PLACE THAT WE'VE
12:21:23PM SPOKEN ABOUT IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
12:21:25PM ONE OF THE ITEMS EARLIER TODAY WAS FOR AN ADDITIONAL DITCH
12:21:30PM GRADING.
12:21:30PM IT WAS JUST OVER HALF A MILLION.
12:21:32PM WHETHER IT IS A DIRECT CORRELATION WITH THE 500 YOU'RE
12:21:37PM ASKING ABOUT, I'D HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK ON.
12:21:40PM THAT'S BEEN OUR MOST RECENT CHANGES TO THAT HAD 550 THOUSAND
12:21:45PM DOLLAR OR SO CONTRACT.
12:21:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE NOTICED MULTIPLE CONTRACTS COMING THROUGH.
12:21:52PM ANY CONTRACTS OUTSTANDING THAT CAN EXPECT TO COME TO US TO
12:21:56PM DO ADDITIONAL WORK AT THIS TIME?
12:21:57PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY PENDING CONTRACTS.
12:22:00PM AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR PROCUREMENT STATUS IS
12:22:05PM ON CONTRACTS.
12:22:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:22:08PM THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THE 11th.
12:22:10PM ONE MORE THING, WE GOT A LOT OF E-MAIL ABOUT A BACKHOE
12:22:23PM BEHIND THE CHURCH OF GOD, ALONG THE TRAIN TRACKS, LOIS AND
12:22:26PM MANHATTAN THAT SHOWED UP, WAS THERE FOR APPARENTLY A PHOTO
12:22:32PM OP AND THEN DISAPPEARED.
12:22:33PM DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?
12:22:35PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I DON'T KNOW COMPLETELY DETAILS.
12:22:37PM IT HAPPENED WHILE I WAS ON LEAVE.
12:22:39PM MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE CAME BACK AND COMPLETED THE
12:22:43PM WORK THAT HAD STARTED AT THAT POINT.
12:22:45PM AGAIN, HAPPY TO CIRCLE BACK IF THERE'S SOMETHING OUTSTANDING
12:22:49PM THERE THAT REMAINS TO BE DONE, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE
12:22:52PM TIMELINE IS.
12:22:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:22:54PM THANK YOU.
12:22:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:22:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WELCOME BACK ALSO.
12:22:58PM VERY HAPPY YOU ARE AT LEAST IN THIS INTERIM POSITION.
12:23:02PM APPRECIATE ALL THE COLLABORATION FROM YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
12:23:10PM WHERE YOU ARE CITYWIDE, IN PARTICULAR SOUTH TAMPA WHERE MOST
12:23:12PM OF THE FLOODING HAPPENED, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE TIMELINE
12:23:17PM IS FOR THE REMAINDER?
12:23:18PM HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU ALL NEED TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF
12:23:21PM THE MAINTENANCE?
12:23:24PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
12:23:26PM LET ME SPEAK A LITTLE LESS DIRECTLY TO THAT.
12:23:28PM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, FAILED TO MENTION BEFORE, WE HAVE A
12:23:32PM WORK ORDER MAP THAT WE HAVE NOT YET PUBLISHED.
12:23:35PM IT'S IMMINENT THAT IT WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE.
12:23:38PM SO I THINK SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AND SOME OF THE THINGS,
12:23:42PM APPENDED TO THE REPORT, I MENTIONED LAST MONTH, WE HAVE LIKE
12:23:46PM LOGS OF WHERE WE HAVE BEEN.
12:23:49PM THEY ARE MAYBE NOT THE MOST USER FRIENDLY, BUT WE PUT THEM
12:23:52PM THERE IN ANTICIPATION OF A MORE USER FRIENDLY FORMAT OF
12:23:56PM PRESENTING TO THE COMMUNITY.
12:23:57PM I ANTICIPATE THAT BEING AVAILABLE -- I KNOW THEY ARE MEETING
12:24:04PM EVEN THIS AFTERNOON.
12:24:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN THE SECOND STORMWATER TAX WAS PITCHED
12:24:08PM IN I THINK 2015 OR '16, THERE WAS A PROMISE MADE TO THE
12:24:12PM PUBLIC THAT MAINTENANCE WOULD BE DONE IN EVERY AREA WITHIN
12:24:15PM THREE YEARS.
12:24:15PM WE'VE SEEN MAINTENANCE HASN'T BEEN DONE IN SOME PLACES IN
12:24:19PM DECADES.
12:24:19PM DOES THAT MEAN, IS IT A THREE-YEAR CYCLE TO DO THE WHOLE
12:24:25PM CITY MAINTENANCE OR A FEW MONTHS?
12:24:26PM I KNOW YOU'RE PUTTING EXTRA RESOURCES.
12:24:29PM IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO WITHIN A MONTH OR TWO,
12:24:31PM CORRECT?
12:24:32PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: CORRECT.
12:24:33PM IT IS A LONGER TIMELINE.
12:24:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEARS OR MONTHS?
12:24:37PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: OUR SERVICE LEVEL FOR DITCH GRADING, AND
12:24:40PM THE EXPECTATION THAT WE HAD COMMITTED TO IN THAT SERVICE
12:24:44PM ASSESSMENT AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS A SEVEN-YEAR CYCLE.
12:24:48PM THAT IS A COMMITMENT TO INSPECT AND THEN TO RESPOND TO WHAT
12:24:53PM THOSE INSPECTIONS UNCOVER.
12:24:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU ARE HERE NOW,
12:25:00PM WHETHER YOU GET THE PERMANENT POSITION OR NOT, YOU'VE BEEN
12:25:03PM ABLE TO HELP WITH A LOT OF THE TRANSPARENCY.
12:25:04PM TALKING ABOUT THE MAP COMING UP.
12:25:06PM WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT PHOTO OPS,
12:25:10PM THEY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
12:25:12PM IF IT TAKES SEVEN YEARS OR THREE YEARS, MORE INFORMATION
12:25:15PM GIVE ABOUT THE TIMELINE, WHERE IT GOES, WHAT THE LEVEL IS,
12:25:18PM IF YOU DIG A DITCH AND YOU DIG IT BY A LITTLE BIT BUT GO
12:25:23PM BACK IN A YEAR LATER AND DIG IT DEEPER, JUST THE
12:25:26PM TRANSPARENCY ON THAT WOULD BE GOOD INSTEAD -- I'M NOT
12:25:29PM ACCUSING YOU OF DOING THIS, INSTEAD OF SOMEBODY CREATING A
12:25:32PM PHOTO OP, OH, LOOK, WE'RE DIGGING IT, BUT THE PUBLIC KNOWS
12:25:36PM WE DIDN'T DIG IT DEEPER.
12:25:38PM THE MORE TRANSPARENCY THE BETTER.
12:25:40PM ONCE ALL OF THAT IS DONE IS THERE GOING TO BE A SCHEDULE
12:25:49PM EVERY THREE YEARS?
12:25:50PM IF SOMEBODY'S DITCH WAS DUG LAST MONTH, THE NEXT TIME WILL
12:25:54PM BE THREE YEARS OR SEVEN YEARS?
12:25:56PM WHAT IS THE REGULAR SCHEDULE?
12:25:58PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THAT REGULAR SCHEDULE SHOULD AT THIS
12:26:01PM POINT BE SEVEN YEARS.
12:26:02PM I KNOW WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR SERVICE LEVEL
12:26:06PM EXPECTATIONS AND WHAT THAT MIGHT COST AND WHAT THE
12:26:09PM IMPLICATIONS MIGHT BE IN TERMS OF THE ASSESSMENT ITSELF.
12:26:13PM WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO GIVE YOU A REAL DETAILED ANSWER RIGHT
12:26:18PM NOW, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT INVESTIGATION IS HAPPENING AND
12:26:22PM THAT WE WILL HAVE THOSE DETAILS TO SHARE IN THE NEAR TERM.
12:26:26PM I WOULD SAY TOWARD THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
12:26:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO OTHER POINTS WHICH ARE NOT IN YOUR
12:26:33PM DOMAIN.
12:26:34PM SO I'M TALKING IN GENERAL.
12:26:37PM CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT NOW, IT IS PUBLISHED WHEN WE'LL GO ON
12:26:39PM OUR CITY COUNCIL BREAK NEXT SUMMER.
12:26:41PM THIS YEAR'S SCHEDULE WAS PUBLISHED A YEAR AGO.
12:26:46PM WE DO THAT SO EVERYBODY CAN PLAN.
12:26:47PM IT'S NOT JUST CITY COUNCIL THAT IS GONE, THE AIDES ARE GONE
12:26:50PM AND SOME CLERKS AND OTHERS ARE GONE DURING THAT TIME.
12:26:54PM I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THE DAY AFTER OUR LAST
12:26:57PM MEETING, IN EFFECT, THE BEGINNING OF THE BREAK, THERE WAS AN
12:27:00PM ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE MAYOR WAS GOING TO HAVE FOUR MEETINGS,
12:27:03PM TOWN HALL MEETINGS ABOUT STORMWATER AROUND THE CITY.
12:27:05PM AT LEAST I WAS NOT INFORMED ABOUT IT.
12:27:08PM ONE OF THEM WAS IN MY DISTRICT.
12:27:10PM BY THE WAY, ALL OF THEM WERE SCHEDULED DURING THE TIME WE
12:27:13PM WERE GONE.
12:27:14PM SO THE PUBLIC SEES THAT AS AN EFFORT BY THE MAYOR TO
12:27:19PM CIRCUMVENT CITY COUNCIL.
12:27:20PM AGAIN, I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU.
12:27:22PM I'M JUST TALKING IN GENERAL.
12:27:24PM IT DOESN'T BUILD TRUST.
12:27:25PM IF SOMEBODY IN WHATEVER DEPARTMENT WAS TRYING TO PULL A FAST
12:27:28PM ONE ON CITY COUNCIL, IT DIDN'T WORK BECAUSE THE PUBLIC
12:27:31PM DOESN'T AGREE WITH IT.
12:27:33PM THE SECOND THING IS, THERE ARE SOME ADVISORS TO THE MAYOR
12:27:35PM THAT ACT LIKE SPOILED CHILDREN SOMETIME.
12:27:37PM THEY SENT OUT A MEMO AFTER I SPOKE TWO WEEKS AGO AND SAID,
12:27:41PM YOU ARE LIAR, LIAR, LIAR.
12:27:43PM YOU LIED.
12:27:44PM THERE AREN'T AREAS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CLEANED IN DECADES.
12:27:49PM BUT WE HAVE TESTIMONY FROM THE PUBLIC IN MANY MEETINGS AND
12:27:53PM VIDEOS.
12:27:53PM EVEN A WHOLE Facebook PAGE THAT HAS THEM.
12:27:56PM I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED ME, E-MAIL ME
12:27:58PM AND I'LL SEND YOU TO THE Facebook PAGE.
12:28:00PM I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTS TO SHOW WHERE
12:28:05PM MAINTENANCE HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN DECADES.
12:28:07PM INSTEAD OF POINTING FINGERS AND SAYING LIAR, LIAR, LIAR,
12:28:10PM WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS WORKING ON HOW TO FIX IT INSTEAD
12:28:14PM OF LOOKING AT IT AS A PR SOLUTION, NEED TO LOOK AT IT AS A
12:28:17PM REAL SOLUTION.
12:28:18PM I THINK YOU AND LUANN AND OTHERS AND JEFF AND OTHERS IN THE
12:28:24PM DEPARTMENT, ARE GENUINELY TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH
12:28:30PM THE RESOURCES YOU HAVE.
12:28:31PM WE NEED TO TAKE THE POLITICS AND CRAZY PR STUFF OUT OF IT
12:28:34PM AND FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS.
12:28:36PM THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC EXPECTS.
12:28:38PM THEY ARE TERRIFIED HOUSES WILL FLOOD AGAIN AND PEOPLE'S
12:28:42PM FINANCIAL LIVELIHOODS AND EVERYTHING HAVE BEEN TURNED UPSIDE
12:28:44PM DOWN.
12:28:45PM WHAT I FOUND IN WORKING WITH STAFF LIKE YOU, YOU ALL HAVE
12:28:48PM BEEN INCREDIBLY GENEROUS IN TRYING TO HELP INDIVIDUALS.
12:28:51PM ALL WE NEED TO DO IS BE MORE TRANSPARENT ON THE
12:28:54PM COMMUNICATION.
12:28:55PM THANK YOU.
12:28:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
12:28:57PM HABANA IS PAVED BY THE COUNTY.
12:29:03PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: HABANA THAT WOULD BE US.
12:29:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH.
12:29:08PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT IS US.
12:29:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE STORM DRAINS THAT ARE SOUTH OF
12:29:15PM HILLSBOROUGH, LET'S SAY SOUTH OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, IT WAS
12:29:17PM BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THE OTHER DAY AND I LIVE ON HABANA,
12:29:21PM I SHOULDN'T EVEN SAY THAT.
12:29:23PM SOMEONE MIGHT APPEAR BECAUSE THEY APPEAR AT CHURCH AND
12:29:26PM APPEAR AT OTHER PLACES.
12:29:28PM THE STORM DRAINS THEY ARE BLOCKED.
12:29:31PM THERE'S CONCRETE IN FRONT OF ONE STORM DRAIN.
12:29:34PM OTHERS ARE OVERGROWN.
12:29:36PM I SEE THIS ON ARMENIA AVENUE, NORTH-SOUTH ROADS IS
12:29:42PM MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY.
12:29:43PM HABANA, DO WE MAINTAIN THE ROAD, THE STORM DRAINS?
12:29:48PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: YES.
12:29:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL SEND PHOTOS TO YOU OR THE
12:29:53PM DEPARTMENT.
12:29:54PM THERE'S NO AVAILABLE FLOW.
12:29:56PM THERE'S BROKEN CONCRETE IN FRONT OF ONE.
12:29:59PM WEEDS AND GRASS GROWING OUT OF ANOTHER.
12:30:01PM IT'S CLOGGING UP THE SYSTEM.
12:30:03PM THAT WAS MY THING.
12:30:04PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: PLEASE DO SEND THEM MY WAY.
12:30:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:30:07PM ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE
12:30:11PM DOING.
12:30:12PM YOUR TEAM IS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND.
12:30:14PM AS HURRICANE SEASON IS NOW HERE, PEOPLE ARE TERRIFIED.
12:30:20PM WE HAVE THAT DEDICATED FUNDING WITH THAT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT,
12:30:23PM WHICH WE'LL BE HAVING A WORKSHOP ON STORMWATER FURTHER.
12:30:26PM BUT JUST THE MAINTENANCE CAN GO SUCH A LONG WAY.
12:30:29PM I THINK THAT IS THE BIGGEST.
12:30:30PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:30:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, BRANDON.
12:30:32PM ALL MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED ALREADY.
12:30:35PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:30:36PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THANK YOU.
12:30:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE FINAL ITEM ON THE
12:30:41PM AGENDA, COUNCILMAN VIERA, ITEM 78.
12:30:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SPEAK AFTER MS. FEELEY.
12:30:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:30:50PM ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
12:30:53PM OPPORTUNITY.
12:30:53PM THIS AFTERNOON, I JUST WANTED TO START OFF BY THANKING YOU
12:30:57PM FOR YOUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO HELPING OUR RESIDENTS IN
12:31:04PM DEALING WITH OUR RECOVERY FROM HURRICANES HELENE AND MILTON.
12:31:07PM THESE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WERE IN THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION
12:31:11PM THIS MORNING WILL GIVE US A LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY THAT WE
12:31:15PM DIDN'T HAVE WHEN WE QUICKLY STOOD UP WHAT WE DID BACK IN
12:31:19PM MARCH.
12:31:20PM YOU ALL KNOW WE DIDN'T JUST HAVE A POT OF HOUSING PROGRAM
12:31:24PM FUNDS THAT WERE UNRESTRICTED.
12:31:25PM WHAT WE USED WERE SHIP FUNDS.
12:31:27PM PULLED THEM TOGETHER, FOUND WHAT WE HAD AND STARTED TO STAND
12:31:30PM THINGS UP.
12:31:31PM WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE FIRST PROGRAM IS THAT REALLY -- IF
12:31:36PM I CAN STEP BACK FOR JUST A MINUTE.
12:31:38PM THOSE FUNDS WERE TARGETED IN THREE BUCKETS.
12:31:41PM INSURANCE PREMIUM REIMBURSEMENT, IF THEY HAD TO CASH IN ON
12:31:45PM THEIR PREMIUM, AND THEN WE COULD HELP WITH THAT.
12:31:48PM REPAIR REIMBURSEMENT.
12:31:52PM SO THEY HAD TO ALREADY HAVE MADE THE REPAIRS.
12:31:55PM AND WE WERE REIMBURSING FOR THAT.
12:31:58PM THE LAST WAS MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.
12:31:59PM IF THEY WERE OUT OF THEIR HOME BUT TRYING TO KEEP THEIR HOME
12:32:02PM GOING WHILE THEY WERE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND GOING FROM THERE.
12:32:05PM THOSE WERE THE THREE BUCKETS.
12:32:06PM I THINK WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THOSE FIRST FUNDS AND WE ARE
12:32:13PM STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE OUT IS THAT THE
12:32:16PM GREATEST NEED IS FOR DIRECT REPAIR.
12:32:19PM AND NOT REIMBURSABLE.
12:32:23PM MANY HOMEOWNERS HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS UP
12:32:26PM FRONT.
12:32:26PM THEY ARE STILL WAITING TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS.
12:32:29PM AND WITH THE FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED THIS MORNING, THAT
12:32:32PM CAN BE MORE OF A REALITY.
12:32:34PM THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE
12:32:38PM TIMELINE?
12:32:39PM OUR APPROACH FOR THESE NEW FUNDS BUILDS ON WHAT WE HAVE IN
12:32:43PM PLACE ALREADY.
12:32:44PM I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SET UP A WHOLE NEW PROGRAM.
12:32:47PM BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES TIME.
12:32:49PM AND TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
12:32:51PM OUR GOAL IS TO LEARN FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THE
12:32:55PM BEGINNING OF APRIL AND TO MOVE FROM THERE.
12:32:58PM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS IN LOOKING AT THIS, I
12:33:01PM ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
12:33:04PM NOBODY HAS PUT OUT FUNDS, NO ONE BUT US.
12:33:07PM AND PART OF THAT, AND I KNOW YOU OFTEN SAY IT, WE'VE BEEN
12:33:12PM BUILDING THE PLANE AS WE'VE BEEN FLYING IT.
12:33:14PM JUMPED INTO ACTION, TRIED TO FIGURE IT OUT.
12:33:18PM LEARN FROM THAT.
12:33:19PM WE DO WANT TO CONTINUE THE THREE BUCKETS OF ASSISTANCE THAT
12:33:22PM WE HAVE, NOW THAT WE HAVE FUNDS THAT ALLOW US TO GO BEYOND
12:33:25PM THE 80% AMI BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE ALREADY IN THE HOPPER
12:33:30PM THAT WERE DENIED THAT.
12:33:31PM WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T APPLY, BECAUSE THEY KNEW WHAT
12:33:34PM THE 80% LIMIT WAS.
12:33:36PM WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.
12:33:39PM HOW DO WE BROADEN THAT NET ON THOSE THREE BUCKETS, BUT THEN
12:33:44PM THE SECOND PART WOULD BE HOW DO WE USE OUR EXISTING HOME
12:33:49PM REPAIR AND REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
12:33:51PM I STILL LIKE TO CALL IT OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB BECAUSE THAT IS
12:33:56PM A LITTLE EASIER.
12:33:56PM HOW DO WE EXPAND THAT TO HAVE JUST A STORM DAMAGE ELEMENT?
12:34:00PM IN DOING THAT, CLEARLY WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THINKING ABOUT HOW
12:34:05PM ARE WE USING THE FUNDS?
12:34:07PM BUT I DO NEED A FEW WEEKS TO GET THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THAT
12:34:11PM TOGETHER FOR YOU.
12:34:11PM I CAN'T TELL YOU THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING OUT THE DOOR
12:34:14PM TOMORROW.
12:34:14PM WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS LIKE I JUST DID, THE CITY OF
12:34:18PM ST. PETERSBURG, PINELLAS, THEY ARE ALL WAITING ON THEIR
12:34:21PM CDBGR.
12:34:22PM WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.
12:34:24PM WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP APPROXIMATELY 60 HOUSEHOLDS, JUST
12:34:27PM CLOSE TO $600,000 OF THE 3.2 MILLION.
12:34:31PM SO THAT HAS BEEN GOING OUT UNDER THOSE SHIP FUNDS.
12:34:36PM WE ARE GOING TO BE FINISHING OUT THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE
12:34:42PM IN THERE.
12:34:44PM WE HAVE HAD NOT MUCH SUCCESS WITH THE THIRD PARTY HIRED TO
12:34:47PM DO THAT.
12:34:48PM STARTING NEXT WEEK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN APPLICATION,
12:34:51PM BUT THAT IS STILL UNDER THOSE FIRST SET OF SHIP FUNDS.
12:34:55PM I DON'T WANT TO GET THAT CONFUSED WITH WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
12:34:57PM BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TEAM TO SAY, LET'S MAKE IT
12:35:01PM THROUGH THE LAST TRANCHE OF APPLICATIONS, LET'S RUN IT
12:35:05PM OURSELVES, AND LET'S MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WHO WAS IN THAT
12:35:09PM PROGRAM IS GETTING THAT FAIR SHAKE.
12:35:11PM I THINK TODAY IS ABOUT FIVE MONTHS AND SOMETHING SINCE WE
12:35:15PM STARTED ALL THIS.
12:35:16PM I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU, TOO, WE'VE HELPED REAL PEOPLE.
12:35:21PM WE HAD A FAMILY WHO HAD A TREE CRASH INTO THEIR TEEN
12:35:25PM DAUGHTER'S BEDROOM.
12:35:26PM THEY WERE ABLE TO GET $20,000 TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THE
12:35:29PM REPAIRS THEY HAD MADE.
12:35:31PM WE HAD ANOTHER FAMILY WHOSE HOUSE FLOODED.
12:35:35PM THEY TRIED TO GET THEIR INSURANCE.
12:35:37PM THEY COULDN'T.
12:35:37PM SO THEY GOT $11,000 TO PUT IN ALL NEW FLOORING AND REPAIR
12:35:42PM THEIR HOME.
12:35:43PM WE ARE HELPING REAL PEOPLE AND WORKING THROUGH THAT.
12:35:46PM THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS, HAVING BEEN OUT WITH THE
12:35:53PM CONSTRUCTION PERMITTING SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND DEALING WITH
12:35:56PM PEOPLE OR TRYING TO GET PERMITS, HAVING BEEN OUT WITH THE
12:35:59PM HOUSING SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WE TRULY UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT
12:36:04PM THIS IS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE EMOTIONS THAT ARE RUNNING
12:36:07PM HIGH OUT THERE IN GETTING THIS DONE.
12:36:08PM IF I CAN HAVE A FEW WEEKS, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOU BACK A
12:36:12PM MORE FORMAL TIMELINE.
12:36:13PM I KNOW YOU JUST PASSED THIS TODAY.
12:36:16PM WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT.
12:36:18PM AS I SAID, WHEN WE STOOD THE OTHER ONE UP, WE REALLY DIDN'T
12:36:21PM KNOW HOW IT WOULD GO, I WANT TO HAVE NUTS AND BOLTS PUT
12:36:24PM TOGETHER SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN HAVE REASONABLE
12:36:27PM EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THIS NEXT TRANCHE OF FUNDING.
12:36:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
12:36:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:36:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:36:34PM THANK YOU, ABBYE, FOR YOUR HARD WORK, WORKING WITH YOU ON
12:36:38PM THE FIRST SET OF FUNDS, YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE A GREAT JOB.
12:36:41PM OUR HANDS WERE TIED BECAUSE OF STATE MANDATES, SO I
12:36:45PM APPRECIATE YOU.
12:36:46PM AND THIS IS GOING TO BE $2 MILLION THAT WILL BE MORE LIBERAL
12:36:51PM ALLOCATED TO MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING CLASS FAMILIES.
12:36:53PM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AS
12:36:56PM WELL.
12:36:56PM I WAS PLANNING ON BRINGING THIS UP AS A LITTLE BIT OVER A
12:36:59PM MILLION DOLLARS.
12:36:59PM SHE DID AN OUTLINE FOR 1.8 MILLION.
12:37:02PM YOU UPPED IT UP TO 2 MILLION.
12:37:04PM THAT'S GREAT.
12:37:05PM EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.
12:37:07PM I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
12:37:09PM IT'S GOOD TO TALK ABOUT THESE FAMILIES AND YOU TALKED ABOUT
12:37:12PM SOME OF THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE BENEFITED.
12:37:15PM UNFORTUNATELY, AGAIN, THE FIRST ROUND OF FUNDS WERE VERY
12:37:17PM RESTRICTED BECAUSE OF STATE MANDATES.
12:37:20PM I'VE TALKED TO SO MANY FAMILIES.
12:37:23PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU REALLY GLEAN FROM THIS DISCUSSION
12:37:26PM AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK CAME TRUE WITH THE FLORIDA
12:37:29PM MANDATES, IS HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT
12:37:33PM GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THEM, AND THAT GOVERNMENT IS
12:37:36PM NOT GOING TO BE THERE FOR THE WORKING CLASS.
12:37:38PM GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS,
12:37:40PM AND SO GOD WILLING, THESE FUNDS CAN HELP THOSE PEOPLE WHO
12:37:43PM HAVE TAKEN THE WORST HITS.
12:37:45PM I WENT ON SATURDAY TO VISIT A NICE WOMAN.
12:37:50PM WE HAD THE TOWN HALL AT FOREST HILLS AND A WOMAN CAME UP TO
12:37:54PM ME AND SHE WAS JUST DELIRIOUS, AS SHE SHOULD BE.
12:37:59PM LOST HER HOME.
12:38:00PM WORKS AT WALMART.
12:38:01PM VERY HARDWORKING WOMAN.
12:38:03PM I ALWAYS REMEMBERED HER FACE.
12:38:05PM I THINK OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WHAT HAPPENED.
12:38:07PM NEVER SAW HER AND THEN WHEN I WENT IN ON THE HOUSE ON
12:38:10PM SATURDAY, IT WAS HER.
12:38:11PM SHE DIDN'T APPARENTLY QUALIFY FOR THE FIRST ROUND.
12:38:16PM A WOMAN WHO WORKS NIGHTS AT WALMART, VERY GOOD WOMAN,
12:38:20PM HARD-WORKER, OWNS HER OWN HOME IN FOREST HILLS AND WE'VE GOT
12:38:25PM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE THERE FOR THOSE FOLKS.
12:38:27PM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
12:38:29PM LET ME ASK YOU, IF I MAY, WITH REGARDS TO INCOME THRESHOLDS,
12:38:32PM I ASSUME THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'LL BE WORKING ON, CORRECT?
12:38:36PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DID BRING THE INCOME LIMIT CHART WITH ME
12:38:40PM BECAUSE I WANT TO SAY, WHENEVER WE'VE TAKEN HOUSING PROGRAM
12:38:44PM FUNDS, WE'VE ALWAYS USED THEM TO CLOSE THE GAP BETWEEN THE
12:38:48PM 80, WHICH IS WHERE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS USUALLY STOP UP
12:38:51PM TO THE 140.
12:38:52PM THAT WOULD BE OUR ANTICIPATION HERE AS WELL.
12:38:55PM IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FOR UNRESTRICTED INCOME, BUT I JUST
12:39:00PM WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
12:39:02PM SO, YES, WE WOULD GO UP TO THE 140 AS MANY OF OUR PROGRAMS
12:39:07PM DO AND OUR HPF, HOUSING PROGRAM FUNDS, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
12:39:11PM SUPPLEMENT.
12:39:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO SEE THAT.
12:39:21PM IN TERMS OF THE PACE FOR THIS, WE CAN MOTION, DO YOU THINK
12:39:27PM YOU NEED A MONTH OR SO?
12:39:28PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
12:39:30PM IF I COULD COME BACK ON SEPTEMBER 18, IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
12:39:34PM OR I CAN PUT IN A WRITTEN REPORT FOR THE 18th.
12:39:37PM WHICHEVER YOU WISH.
12:39:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: WONDERFUL.
12:39:40PM FINAL QUESTION I HAVE, MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE, THE POTENTIAL
12:39:44PM BENEFICIARIES, DO THEY NEED TO BE DELINQUENT ON THEIR
12:39:46PM MORTGAGE TO BENEFIT?
12:39:51PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I BELIEVE THAT IS HOW THAT HAS BEEN -- YES,
12:39:54PM THEY HAD TO BE, I THINK, 30 DAYS, JUST 30 DAYS IN ARREARS
12:39:58PM FOR US TO ASSIST.
12:40:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, I'D HATE TO MANDATE
12:40:03PM THAT SOMEBODY HAVE THEIR CREDIT SHATTERED TO BENEFIT.
12:40:06PM THERE ARE PEOPLE I KNOW WHO HAVE TAKEN ON SECOND JOBS,
12:40:10PM ADDITIONAL SHIFTS AND SO FORTH TO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM
12:40:13PM THIS.
12:40:14PM I WOULD URGE THAT, WHICH IS TO HAVE SOME POTENTIAL
12:40:18PM REFORMATION OF THAT.
12:40:22PM I WOULDN'T WANT PEOPLE DELINQUENT ON THEIR MORTGAGE BECAUSE
12:40:25PM THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN EXTRA JOBS TO KEEP THAT
12:40:28PM GOING.
12:40:29PM THAT'S IT.
12:40:30PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:40:30PM EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.
12:40:34PM BY THE WAY, THE FACT THAT NO OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS DONE
12:40:38PM THIS, THAT'S TERRIBLE.
12:40:41PM I DID THAT THE FUNDS COMING IN ARE A LOT MORE, BUT WE NEED
12:40:44PM TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP PEOPLE NOW.
12:40:47PM IF WE PROVIDE A DOWN PAYMENT ON THE LARGER THING, MILTON
12:40:51PM HAPPENED IN OCTOBER OF 2024.
12:40:55PM WE'RE NINE, TEN MONTHS SINCE THEN.
12:40:57PM GOSH, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SPEND MONEY SO ON MANY THINGS AND
12:41:04PM FOR NO OTHER GOVERNMENT TO BE PUTTING A MILLION OR TWO
12:41:07PM MILLION TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
12:41:09PM I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO PROMOTE THAT AND
12:41:12PM SAYING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT PEOPLE FIRST AND TO BE THERE
12:41:15PM FOR EVERYBODY, FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING CLASS, THOSE
12:41:19PM WORKING HARD TRYING TO GET INTO THE WORKING CLASS, I THINK
12:41:22PM THAT'S GOOD.
12:41:23PM THANK YOU.
12:41:24PM APPRECIATE YOU.
12:41:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:41:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS A GOOD POINT ABOUT HAVING TO BE
12:41:29PM DELINQUENT ON THEIR MORTGAGE IN ORDER TO QUALIFY.
12:41:35PM IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THEIR CREDIT, THERE MIGHT BE A LATE FEE
12:41:38PM AND IT'S WASTED MONEY THAT THE BANKS ARE GOING TO TAKE.
12:41:41PM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
12:41:42PM NUMBER TWO, YOU JUST MENTIONED IT NOW, THE FACT THAT WE'RE
12:41:45PM THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT DO THIS, THE ONLY MUNICIPALITY IS GOOD
12:41:48PM BECAUSE IT SHOWS WE ARE A COMPASSIONATE CITY.
12:41:51PM I HOPE IT SETS AN EXAMPLE.
12:41:53PM OTHER CITIES MIGHT BE WAITING FOR OTHER FUNDING, BUT WE
12:41:56PM JUMPED RIGHT ON IT.
12:41:57PM WE WERE DEVASTATED AND MANY NEIGHBORHOODS WERE AFFECTED AND
12:42:00PM WE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING ON IT.
12:42:01PM AND WE'VE HELPED, AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU CALL IT OWNER
12:42:04PM OCCUPIED REHAB, WHATEVER NAME YOU WANT TO PUT IT.
12:42:08PM YOU GAVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF THEY WERE REIMBURSED.
12:42:11PM THEY WERE ABLE TO BE HELPED.
12:42:13PM IT COULD BE 3,000.
12:42:14PM IT COULD BE A THOUSAND.
12:42:15PM COULD BE 10,000.
12:42:17PM IT'S MAKE OR BREAK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
12:42:20PM WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND DO IT, AND I
12:42:23PM THINK IT IS A VERY GOOD THING.
12:42:25PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:42:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:42:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS
12:42:33PM AND YOUR TEAM.
12:42:35PM THE FACT THAT YOU ALL WILL BE STEPPING UP AND TAKING OVER TO
12:42:39PM DO THIS LAST TRANCHE IS COMMENDABLE.
12:42:44PM I DO HAVE TO ASK, THE THIRD PARTY THAT WE PARTNERED WITH,
12:42:48PM THEY OBVIOUSLY COULD NOT KEEP THEIR END OF THE DEAL.
12:42:51PM DO WE STILL HAVE TO PAY THEM EVERYTHING WE SAID WE WOULD PAY
12:42:55PM THEM OR BE ABLE TO CLAW SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK TO HELP
12:42:58PM FAMILIES?
12:42:59PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I'M WORKING WITH MS. JOHNS TO TAKE A LOOK AT
12:43:02PM THAT RIGHT NOW.
12:43:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:43:06PM THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS -- I MEAN, THAT'S TRULY
12:43:09PM DESPICABLE TO TAKE MONEY FROM US TO HELP PEOPLE AND NOT BE
12:43:13PM ABLE TO DO IT.
12:43:15PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:43:16PM WHEN YOU HAVE AN UPDATE, FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL US, IF NOT COME
12:43:19PM AND LET US KNOW.
12:43:20PM I THINK EVEN DURING ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE, I THINK IT'S ONE
12:43:23PM OF THOSE THINGS SAYING, HEY, WE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND
12:43:26PM DOLLARS BACK AND THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP FIVE MORE
12:43:29PM FAMILIES.
12:43:29PM THAT IS SOMETHING.
12:43:30PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S
12:43:33PM REALLY IMPORTANT.
12:43:35PM WHEN SOMEONE DOESN'T COME THROUGH, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
12:43:38PM DON'T SAY, ENH, YOU CAN JUST KEEP THE MONEY.
12:43:42PM IT'S TOO IMPORTANT.
12:43:43PM I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR MAKING THAT 1.8
12:43:45PM A SOLID 2 MILLION.
12:43:47PM I THINK THAT'S REALLY PHENOMENAL.
12:43:47PM AGAIN, THAT'S MANY MORE FAMILIES TO HELP.
12:43:52PM MY ONLY OTHER SUGGESTION IS, AS COUNCILMAN VIERA ALLUDED TO
12:43:56PM EARLIER, THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, MAYBE IT MIGHT BE A NICE
12:44:00PM IDEA TO DO LIKE ANOTHER MEETING UP IN NORTH TAMPA AND
12:44:05PM ANOTHER MEETING IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:44:07PM NOW THAT THESE FUNDS ARE NEW.
12:44:08PM ONCE YOU HAVE A SYSTEM, ONCE YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE
12:44:11PM READY TO STAND UP, MAYBE TO PLAN SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS, ONE
12:44:14PM IN EACH AREA, JUST SO PEOPLE CAN GET HELP.
12:44:18PM PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU CAN HAVE A GIANT BOARD WITH THOSE
12:44:21PM AMIs.
12:44:23PM JUST ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN THEN COME,
12:44:26PM ESPECIALLY IF WE STILL HAVE ALL THOSE FUNDS.
12:44:29PM THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN REALLY COME AND GET THAT ASSISTANCE
12:44:32PM RIGHT THERE.
12:44:33PM I KNOW THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO COME AND HELP OUT.
12:44:36PM SO I THINK IF YOU LET COUNCIL KNOW ABOUT IT, WE WOULD SHOW
12:44:39PM UP OURSELVES.
12:44:41PM PLEASE JUST CONSIDER THAT.
12:44:43PM I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD BE REALLY THANKFUL TO BE ABLE TO
12:44:48PM COME OUT AND DO THAT.
12:44:50PM AGAIN, IT WOULD BE ANOTHER FEATHER IN TAMPA'S CAP AS BEING
12:44:54PM THE FOLKS WHO PUT OVER $5 MILLION INTO HELPING THEIR
12:44:58PM CITIZENS RECOVER.
12:44:59PM I JUST, AGAIN, WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND THE WHOLE
12:45:02PM ADMINISTRATION FOR FINDING THAT FIRST 3.2 MILLION.
12:45:07PM IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL BENEFIT.
12:45:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON
12:45:12PM TO NEW BUSINESS.
12:45:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, ALSO, FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
12:45:17PM THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FOR PROPOSING THIS IDEA.
12:45:20PM I THINK THE REASON WHY WE'RE PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE THAT DID
12:45:26PM IT IS BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A HUGE PROBLEM.
12:45:29PM IN ANNOUNCING SOMETHING LIKE THIS SETS HIGH EXPECTATION THAT
12:45:33PM WE CAN SOLVE A LARGER PROBLEM.
12:45:37PM THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE SO MANY NEEDS.
12:45:40PM I HAD A LOT OF CONCERNS IN THE BEGINNING THAT WE WOULD BE
12:45:45PM OVERWHELMED WITH REQUESTS.
12:45:47PM PART OF THE REASON IS THAT AS YOU DESIGN IN THE BEGINNING,
12:45:51PM IT HAD LIMITATIONS.
12:45:52PM BUT I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S WORKED OUT OKAY.
12:45:55PM IT'S A SYMBOLIC GESTURE.
12:45:58PM ALSO WILL HELP A LOT OF FAMILIES.
12:46:00PM UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO SOLVE
12:46:03PM EVERYBODY'S ISSUES.
12:46:04PM FEMA SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT.
12:46:06PM IN MY OPINION, FEMA WAS HORRIBLY MISMANAGED.
12:46:12PM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY FIXED THE PROBLEMS YET.
12:46:13PM BUT I HAD SO MANY PEOPLE CRYING AND UPSET.
12:46:15PM THEY LOST EVERYTHING.
12:46:16PM I WENT TO KATHY CASTOR'S OFFICE.
12:46:20PM THEY WENT TO LAURA LEE'S OFFICE.
12:46:22PM THEY WENT TO EVERYBODY THEY COULD, AND FEMA JUST DIDN'T HELP
12:46:23PM THEM.
12:46:24PM JUST WITH BASIC THINGS.
12:46:25PM SOME PEOPLE HAD SUCCESS, BUT MANY DID NOT.
12:46:28PM THAT WAS AN ENORMOUS FAILURE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.
12:46:31PM THE MAIN THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT IN SOUTH TAMPA, PORT
12:46:35PM TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY, ALL THE WAY NEAR THE ORIGINAL PORT,
12:46:39PM ALL THE WAY DOWN BY MacDILL, THERE WERE MANY FAMILIES
12:46:46PM THAT WERE HIT.
12:46:47PM MANY OF THOSE FAMILIES PEOPLE THINK EVERYONE IS SOUTH TAMPA
12:46:51PM IS RICH.
12:46:52PM MANY THE FAMILIES ARE AT OR BELOW POVERTY LINE.
12:46:55PM MANY OF THEM HAVE OWNED THEIR HOMES THROUGH MULTIPLE
12:46:58PM GENERATIONS.
12:46:59PM THERE WAS AN HISTORIC BLACK COMMUNITY WITH THE LONGSHOREMEN
12:47:04PM BUT ALSO WHITE FAMILIES AND HISPANIC FAMILIES IN THAT AREA.
12:47:07PM THEY DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY OWNED THEIR HOMES
12:47:10PM COMPLETELY.
12:47:10PM THEY DIDN'T HAVE A MORTGAGE.
12:47:14PM I SOMEHOW MISSED THIS, IF THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU
12:47:17PM HAVE TO OWN YOUR OWN HOME, HAVE A MORTGAGE AND DEFAULT ON
12:47:20PM IT, THAT'S MISSING ALL THESE FAMILIES.
12:47:22PM YOU KNOW THERE'S ONE CASE IN PARTICULAR, I JUST SAW THE LADY
12:47:25PM AGAIN LAST NIGHT.
12:47:26PM SHE HAD A HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD HISTORIC HOME.
12:47:30PM HER HOME FLOODED.
12:47:31PM SHE LOST 50,000 IN EQUIPMENT FOR HER DISABLED SON.
12:47:35PM SHE HAD TO CARRY HIM UP IN THE RAIN AND STORM TO THE THIRD
12:47:39PM FLOOR AND SHE GOT NOTHING FROM NOBODY.
12:47:41PM WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE CASE.
12:47:43PM I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
12:47:44PM I HOPE WE CAN RESOLVE HER ISSUE TO SOME EXTENT BECAUSE THAT
12:47:48PM IS A CASE.
12:47:50PM NOW SHE FOUND OUT HER SON HAS CANCER.
12:47:52PM WE NEED TO TRY TO HELP THE FAMILIES AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
12:47:55PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.
12:47:57PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DID WANT TO CLARIFY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
12:47:59PM HAVE A MORTGAGE ON YOUR HOME TO GET THE FUNDS.
12:48:02PM WE HAD MONEY IF YOU WERE DELINQUENT ON YOUR MORTGAGE, BUT
12:48:05PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MORTGAGE.
12:48:07PM YOU CAN OWN IT OUTRIGHT.
12:48:08PM IT DOES HAVE TO BE HOMESTEADED CLEARLY.
12:48:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS THE END OF OUR BUSINESS.
12:48:16PM WE ARE MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
12:48:18PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:48:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST MENTION, I HAVE A COUPLE OF
12:48:27PM QUESTIONS.
12:48:28PM ZION CEMETERY, DOES SOMEBODY HAVE A MOTION REGARDING THAT?
12:48:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT A MOTION, BUT IT WAS EVEN REPORTED
12:48:36PM IN THE NEWS THAT THE BALL IS ROLLING.
12:48:39PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES IN QUESTION,
12:48:41PM PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.
12:48:42PM THE ADMINISTRATION MIGHT BE FIGURING IT OUT.
12:48:45PM I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
12:48:46PM THERE WAS SOMETHING MENTIONED IN THE NEWS A FEW WEEKS AGO,
12:48:51PM BUT I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF IT.
12:48:52PM I'M NOT MAKING ANY MOTION.
12:48:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S NOT IN MY DISTRICT, SO I HAVEN'T MADE A
12:48:57PM MOTION ON IT BUT, OF COURSE, I CARE ABOUT IT AND WE HAVE ALL
12:49:00PM VOTED TO HELP ZION.
12:49:02PM IF SOMEBODY ELSE MAKES A MOTION, HAPPY TO SUPPORT THEM OR
12:49:05PM ANY OF THE FOLKS WHO SPOKE THIS MORNING, IF YOU HAVE A
12:49:07PM PROPOSAL FOR A SPECIFIC MOTION, I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU.
12:49:10PM THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
12:49:11PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO HAS CREATED THAT
12:49:15PM AND LED IT.
12:49:16PM AND THEY ARE ASKING IN THE PUBLIC THAT WE EXTEND THEIR TIME.
12:49:20PM ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION?
12:49:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:49:22PM [INAUDIBLE]
12:49:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL LET YOU GO WITH THAT.
12:49:27PM I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON ANYBODY'S TOES.
12:49:29PM YELLOW JACKETS KEEP GETTING MENTIONED, SOMEBODY MAKING A
12:49:32PM MOTION IN THAT REGARD?
12:49:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT MAKING A MOTION BUT I DID SPEAK TO
12:49:37PM CHIEF BENNETT ABOUT IT AND HE SAID THERE WAS MONEY IN THE
12:49:39PM BUDGET.
12:49:40PM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BRING UP AT THE FIRST
12:49:43PM BUDGET MEETING, AUGUST 4.
12:49:44PM THE MONEY FOR THIS YEAR IS FOR PLANNING IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.
12:49:52PM AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ASK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY
12:49:54PM DURING THE GENERAL FUND DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL BE THE 4th.
12:50:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY MOTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, CAN WE
12:50:05PM PUT THINGS ON OCTOBER 30th WORKSHOP OR IS THAT A SINGLE
12:50:10PM ISSUE?
12:50:10PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT
12:50:15PM THE POSSIBILITY OF REGULATING PICKLEBALL COURTS.
12:50:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION COMING UP DEALING WITH THAT
12:50:22PM RIGHT NOW.
12:50:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL LET YOU DO IT.
12:50:25PM I'M HEARING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING
12:50:27PM PICKLEBALL COURTS IN BACKYARDS AND THEY ARE REGULATED THE
12:50:31PM SAME WAY AS TENNIS COURTS.
12:50:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT.
12:50:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THOSE E-MAILS.
12:50:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: A COUPLE OF QUICK ONES.
12:50:41PM I MET A VERY NICE WOMAN NAMED BETTY COLEMAN, ACTUALLY THE
12:50:45PM FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN FEMALE FIREFIGHTER FOR TAMPA FIRE
12:50:48PM RESCUE.
12:50:49PM I WENT TO THIS RETIREE LUNCHEON AND HAD THE PLEASURE OF
12:50:53PM MEETING HER.
12:50:53PM NEXT YEAR WILL BE 45 YEARS SINCE SHE BEGAN SERVING WITH
12:50:58PM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
12:50:59PM JANUARY 8 OF NEXT YEAR, PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO HER AT
12:51:04PM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
12:51:05PM IT'S GOOD FOR THE RULES.
12:51:07PM JANUARY, IF THAT'S OKAY.
12:51:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:51:14PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:51:15PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
12:51:17PM OPPOSED?
12:51:17PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
12:51:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:51:21PM THE NEXT, AS I INDICATED IN MY REPORT, STARTING IN
12:51:24PM SEPTEMBER, AGAIN, WE'LL GIVE THEM TIME, I WANT TO HAVE A
12:51:27PM WRITTEN REPORT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ON THE SPECIAL NEEDS
12:51:30PM INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, INCLUDING THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO
12:51:33PM ARE IN THE PROGRAM AND ALL EFFORTS THAT THEY ARE MAKING TO
12:51:37PM SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE APPROPRIATED.
12:51:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:51:39PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:51:40PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
12:51:42PM OPPOSED.
12:51:43PM AYES HAVE IT.
12:51:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:51:45PM AND THIS IS MY MOTION IS, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE
12:51:49PM BECAUSE I MAY NOT BE HERE ON THAT AUGUST MEETING.
12:51:52PM SO I DO WANT TO BRING THIS UP, WHICH IS SIMPLY A WRITTEN
12:51:57PM MEMO -- STRIKE THAT, REQUEST FOR WRITTEN MEMO FROM THE
12:52:00PM ADMINISTRATION TO BE RETURNED ON AUGUST 7 ON THEIR POSITION
12:52:07PM ON APPROPRIATING THE FUNDS FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS PROGRAM
12:52:13PM FROM THE SOCIAL ACTION SECTION TO THE GENERAL BUDGET.
12:52:18PM SO THE REQUEST THAT I GOT WAS THIS, WHICH IS, YOU HAVE
12:52:21PM $100,000 YOU CAN SPEND ON THIS.
12:52:23PM THE INTERNSHIP IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND IT'S NOT
12:52:27PM IN THE GENERAL BUDGET, THAT IN EFFECT COULD WIPE IT OUT.
12:52:31PM IT IS JUST A MEMO.
12:52:32PM NOT GOING TO TAKE UP ANY COUNCIL TIME, AT LEAST WE CAN MAYBE
12:52:35PM DISPOSE OF THAT AND SAVE US TIME AT THOSE HEARINGS, IF I
12:52:38PM MAY.
12:52:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:52:41PM MR. SHELBY.
12:52:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO RECOGNIZE IT IS A ONE-WEEK MOTION.
12:52:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:52:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY DON'T YOU HAVE IT AT THE 11th BUDGET
12:52:52PM HEARING?
12:52:52PM BECAUSE IF IT IS WRITTEN, YOU'LL STILL SEE IT.
12:52:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: WRITTEN.
12:52:57PM GOOD IDEA.
12:52:58PM IT'S A MOTION TO INQUIRE WITH ADMINISTRATION ON THEIR
12:53:04PM POSITION ON MOVING THE FUNDING FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS
12:53:07PM INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FROM THE SOCIAL ACTION TO THE GENERAL
12:53:11PM BUDGET ON THAT DATE, AUGUST 11.
12:53:14PM WRITTEN.
12:53:15PM WRITTEN.
12:53:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:53:17PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:53:18PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:53:20PM OPPOSED?
12:53:20PM AYES HAVE IT.
12:53:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: LAST ONE, HAVE MS. FEELEY COME ON SEPTEMBER 8
12:53:26PM TO REPORT ON THE STATUS OF THE $2 MILLION IN HOUSING
12:53:28PM ASSISTANCE, INCLUDING PROCEDURE.
12:53:30PM 18.
12:53:35PM I MISHEARD.
12:53:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FOR MS. FEELEY TO RETURN ON
12:53:39PM SEPTEMBER 18 FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:53:41PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:53:42PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
12:53:43PM OPPOSED?
12:53:43PM AYES HAVE IT.
12:53:45PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:53:45PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
12:53:59PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:54:03PM >>THE CLERK: UPDATE ON SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP.
12:54:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AUGUST 11 IS A BUDGET WORKSHOP.
12:54:12PM I THINK IT WAS AUGUST 18.
12:54:14PM NO, YOU SAID SEPTEMBER.
12:54:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU SAID SEPTEMBER.
12:54:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: STARTING IN SEPTEMBER.
12:54:30PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:54:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
12:54:32PM I HAVE THESE WRITTEN FOR YOU, SULING.
12:54:35PM MOTION FOR THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE.
12:54:37PM I MADE A MOTION AND IT WAS INCORRECT DATE.
12:54:40PM I MOTION FOR THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE TO GIVE
12:54:43PM A FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON SEPTEMBER 25th, 2025, DURING
12:54:47PM THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP UNDER COMMENDATIONS AND
12:54:50PM PRESENTATIONS.
12:54:51PM IT WAS PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 2, BUT WE DO NOT
12:54:54PM HAVE A MEETING THAT DAY.
12:54:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:54:57PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:54:59PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:55:00PM OPPOSED?
12:55:01PM AYES HAVE IT.
12:55:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE WORKED WITH BOTH LEGAL AND MS. FEELEY
12:55:08PM AND HER DEPARTMENT ON THE PICKLEBALL QUESTION BECAUSE I'VE
12:55:11PM BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT MULTIPLE PLACES AS WELL.
12:55:13PM SO THIS IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH.
12:55:16PM THEY HAVE ALL AGREED TO THIS.
12:55:17PM I MOVE TO HAVE LEGAL CONSULT WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
12:55:20PM AND COME BACK ON OCTOBER 9, 2025, FOR AN IN-PERSON STAFF
12:55:24PM REPORT ON ANY EXISTING CODES, PROVISIONS, OR REGULATIONS
12:55:28PM THAT AFFECT THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REGULATE PICKLEBALL COURTS
12:55:31PM IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, INCLUDE LAND RIGHTS, SB 180,
12:55:36PM LIGHTING, NOISE, AND TPD NOISE COMPLAINT ENFORCEMENT.
12:55:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD YOU ADD, PLEASE, TO LOOK AT THE
12:55:44PM ORDINANCES THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE.
12:55:46PM APPARENTLY OTHER CITIES REGULATE IT.
12:55:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
12:55:49PM LOOK AT OTHER FLORIDA CITY REGULATIONS.
12:55:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU RESTATE THE MOTION?
12:56:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM JUST ADDING TO ALSO LOOK --
12:56:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST FOR THE RECORD CLARIFICATION.
12:56:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE IT WRITTEN.
12:56:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:56:07PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:56:09PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
12:56:11PM HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE SPECIAL SECURITY FROM THAT MAFIA THAT
12:56:16PM REPRESENTS THE PICKLEBALL PEOPLE.
12:56:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY SON STARTED THE PICKLEBALL GROUP AT
12:56:23PM PLANT.
12:56:23PM HE DOESN'T WANT ANY REGULATION.
12:56:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS A CULT.
12:56:30PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:56:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WISH MY MOM A BELATED HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
12:56:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
12:56:36PM YOU LOOK FABULOUS.
12:56:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO -- TWO THINGS.
12:56:41PM ONE, YOU PROBABLY SAW THE PRESS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT
12:56:44PM THE PET RESOURCE CENTER FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
12:56:46PM I KNOW IT'S NOT CITY.
12:56:47PM IT'S STILL OUR COMMUNITY.
12:56:51PM THEY RESOLVED SOME ISSUES.
12:56:52PM LOT OF PETS IN AND OUT THE DOORS.
12:56:55PM STILL HAVE NEEDS.
12:56:56PM IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY, EVEN SMALL DONATIONS LIKE BLANKETS,
12:56:59PM APPLE SAUCE BECAUSE THEY MAKE PUP SICKLES.
12:57:05PM FREEZE THEM TO KEEP THE DOGS COLD.
12:57:07PM IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM.
12:57:11PM THEY ALSO HAVE AN AMAZON WISH LIST.
12:57:14PM IF YOU CALL THEM, THEY'LL GIVE YOU A LINK TO THE AMAZON WISH
12:57:17PM LIST.
12:57:17PM THAT IS AN ONGOING THING TO HELP THE ANIMALS OUT THERE.
12:57:20PM 813-301-7387.
12:57:24PM NEEDS ARE GREAT.
12:57:29PM RESOURCES ARE FEW.
12:57:30PM I'M SURE THEY WOULD APPRECIATE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO.
12:57:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:57:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THE ISSUE IS?
12:57:35PM YOU SAID MANY PEOPLE HAVE HEARD, BUT WHAT IS THE ISSUE?
12:57:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY DON'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING IN THE
12:57:42PM KENNELS OUT THERE.
12:57:43PM WITH THE RECORD HEAT AND HEAT INDEX, IT WAS REALLY
12:57:48PM DETRIMENTAL TO THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THE ANIMALS THAT
12:57:51PM THEY HAVE INCARCERATED AT THE FACILITIES WAITING FOR HOMES.
12:57:56PM THANKFULLY, BECAUSE OF THE PRESS THAT WAS RELATED TO THIS
12:58:00PM ISSUE, I DID GET A TEXT MESSAGE.
12:58:03PM THEY WERE ABLE TO HOME -- I'LL GIVE YOU THE STATISTICS --
12:58:07PM THEY HAD 33 ADOPTIONS, FIVE RETURNED OWNERS AND 11 FOSTERS
12:58:11PM AND RESCUE TRANSFERS.
12:58:12PM DOZENS OF DOGS HAVE LEFT TO COMFORTABLE HOMES.
12:58:15PM I ALMOST TEAR UP AND GET GOOSE BUMPS WHEN I READ THIS.
12:58:20PM STILL A LOT OF DOGS OUT THERE LOOKING FOR HOMES.
12:58:23PM AND THEIR NEEDS ARE THINGS LIKE BROTH, PUMPKIN FOR THE DOGS
12:58:30PM TO EAT, APPLE SAUCE, SOFT DOG TREATS, TOWELS AND SHEETS.
12:58:35PM AGAIN, THEY HAVE AN AMAZON WISH LIST AS WELL.
12:58:37PM IF YOU CALL, THEY HAVE THE LINK.
12:58:38PM I HAVE THE LINK, TOO, FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS ACCESS TO ME, I
12:58:43PM CAN SHARE THE LINK WITH YOU.
12:58:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK MR. VIERA ALSO HAS AN ANNOUNCEMENT
12:58:48PM ABOUT TOMORROW NIGHT?
12:58:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE ONE MORE THING.
12:58:55PM SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE, IN OUR VAST AUDIENCE OF MILLIONS, I
12:59:00PM HAVE MY AIDE, TIM HEBERLEIN.
12:59:04PM HE JUST CAME BACK FROM LUNCH AND CRUISING THE CARIBBEAN.
12:59:08PM THANK YOU KELLY, LYNN HURTAK'S AIDE FOR ASSISTING ME AND
12:59:12PM DARLENE WHILE HE WAS ABSENT.
12:59:14PM IT WAS FLAWLESS.
12:59:16PM KELLY ALWAYS GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND.
12:59:20PM SHE DOES.
12:59:20PM SITTING NEXT TO TIM, IF YOU RECOGNIZE LEO MOLINA.
12:59:26PM HE'S BEEN THE INTERN IN OUR OFFICE.
12:59:28PM I JUST WANTED TO SAY, ONE, RECOGNIZE LEO -- HE'S WORKED.
12:59:35PM TIM HAS BEEN CRACKING THE WHIP.
12:59:38PM HE'S BEEN REALLY WORKING.
12:59:39PM HE ARRANGED A LOT OF THE MEETINGS THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE
12:59:42PM CONSTITUENTS.
12:59:43PM OUR TOWN HALLS AND ME GETTING OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
12:59:47PM ASSOCIATIONS AND DOING THAT ARRANGEMENT, WHICH IS NOT AN
12:59:50PM EASY JOB.
12:59:51PM HE'S REALLY BEEN WORKING IT.
12:59:54PM IT'S BEEN A JOY HAVING HIM IN THE OFFICE.
12:59:57PM IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE HE'S NOT IN COLLEGE, BUT HE'S
1:00:00PM GOING TO BE ON HIS WAY.
1:00:01PM LEO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR
1:00:04PM EXPERIENCE AT CITY HALL AND WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE?
1:00:07PM >> SURE.
1:00:08PM IT'S BEEN AN HONOR WORKING HERE.
1:00:10PM LAST TIME I CAME UP AND SAID MY THOUGHTS ON IT, WORKING IN
1:00:16PM LOCAL POLITICS.
1:00:17PM I KNOW HURRICANE SEASON IS COMING UP, KIND OF GLAD WORK
1:00:23PM THERE, YOU KNOW.
1:00:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHERE ARE YOU GOING?
1:00:28PM >> AFTER THIS, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL,
1:00:31PM YOU KNOW.
1:00:32PM BACK TO SCHOOL SHOPPING.
1:00:33PM THEN BIG PLANS ARE APPLY TO COLLEGES.
1:00:38PM MAJOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE.
1:00:40PM PUBLIC SERVICE IS SOMETHING THAT WORKING HERE, SOMETHING
1:00:44PM THAT INTEREST ME.
1:00:45PM I'LL LOOK INTO IT, YOU KNOW.
1:00:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY NICE.
1:00:48PM DON'T BE A STRANGER.
1:00:50PM I SAID YOUR NAME.
1:00:51PM YOU NEED TO SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
1:00:53PM >> MY NAME IS LEONARD MOLINA.
1:00:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE HAVING YOU IN THE
1:00:59PM OFFICE.
1:01:00PM TIM HAS ENJOYED YOUR COMPANY.
1:01:02PM WE ENJOYED YOUR MEANINGFUL ASSISTANCE TO THE OFFICE.
1:01:04PM VERY GOOD.
1:01:05PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:01:06PM APPRECIATE IT.
1:01:06PM THANK YOU.
1:01:08PM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.
1:01:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:01:12PM TOMORROW EVENING WE'RE HAVING ANNUAL KARAOKE SMACK-DOWN
1:01:15PM BATTLE AT FOREST HILLS AT THE BABE ZAHARIAS.
1:01:19PM IT BEGINS AT 6:00 AND ALWAYS A GREAT TIME.
1:01:22PM SOMETHING THAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST WAS IS THAT COUNCILMAN
1:01:26PM CARLSON, THE PBA IS DOING FUND-RAISING FOR THE FAMILY OF THE
1:01:30PM OFFICER THAT WAS SHOT, THAT WE COULD HAVE LIKE A BOWL THERE,
1:01:35PM JAR, FOR FOLKS TO GIVE MONEY OR CONTRIBUTE ONLINE.
1:01:39PM I'M NOT GOOD WITH TECHNOLOGY.
1:01:41PM IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD TIME IN EVERYTHING.
1:01:43PM AND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO IS ACTUALLY A GOOD SINGER.
1:01:47PM YOU ARE.
1:01:47PM YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD.
1:01:49PM YOU HAVE A LOVELY VOICE.
1:01:50PM IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD TIME.
1:01:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:01:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALONG WITH THAT, IS THERE MAYBE A WAY TO
1:02:00PM COLLECT FOR THE PET RESOURCE CENTER?
1:02:01PM PUMPKIN, APPLE SAUCE, A QR CODE.
1:02:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BRING ANY OF THAT
1:02:07PM STUFF, WE'LL COLLECT IT AND MAKE SURE IT GETS TO THE PROPER
1:02:09PM PLACE.
1:02:10PM YOU'RE CORRECT, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO IS AN OUTSTANDING
1:02:12PM SINGER.
1:02:13PM ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM IS COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA.
1:02:19PM I WOULD SUGGEST BRINGING EAR PLUGS -- EARMUFFS OR DRINK
1:02:27PM HEAVILY.
1:02:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK ALSO WE OUGHT TO HAVE A SPECIAL
1:02:32PM CALLED WORKSHOP ON DECORUM TO TRY TO CONVINCE THE CHAIR TO
1:02:36PM CALL US BY OUR CORRECT NAMES.
1:02:39PM [ LAUGHTER ]
1:02:39PM HE CALLS YOU MIRANDA AND CALLS MIRANDA --
1:02:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
1:02:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW -- CAN YOU -- CALLS ME
1:02:51PM COUNCILMAN.
1:02:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN SOME PLACES THAT'S PROTOCOL.
1:02:55PM IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER, I STILL CALL MY DAUGHTER MY
1:02:59PM SISTER'S NAME, I CALL MY SON -- YEAH, I'M NOT GOOD AT IT.
1:03:03PM LAWYER SHELBY.
1:03:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER FOR THE PUBLIC, I KNOW
1:03:10PM COUNCIL KNOWS THIS, BUT YOU HAVE A 5:01 MEETING TONIGHT.
1:03:14PM BUT YOU HAVE THE FIRST OF TWO SPECIAL CALLED BUDGET
1:03:21PM WORKSHOPS.
1:03:22PM THE NEXT TIME THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE MEETING AFTER
1:03:24PM TONIGHT'S MEETING WILL BE MONDAY THE 4th OF AUGUST AT
1:03:28PM 1 P.M. HERE.
1:03:29PM AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SECOND BUDGET SPECIAL CALL WORKSHOP AT
1:03:37PM 9 A.M., AND YOU SET THE STORMWATER DISCUSSION RELATIVE TO
1:03:40PM THE BUDGET AT 5:01.
1:03:42PM I WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
1:03:45PM AFTER TONIGHT, YOU WILL BE BACK HERE ON MONDAY.
1:03:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:03:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN
1:03:52PM MANISCALCO.
1:03:52PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:03:54PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? OPPOSED?
1:03:57PM AYES HAVE IT.
1:03:58PM THANK YOU.
1:03:58PM SEE YOU GUYS TONIGHT.
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