TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL CALL WORKSHOP
MONDAY, AUGUST 4, 2025, 1:00 P.M.
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01:00:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
01:00:33PM WELCOME TO THIS SPECIAL CALLED BUDGET WORKSHOP.
01:00:37PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
01:00:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:00:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:00:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:00:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:00:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:00:44PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:00:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:00:49PM WE ARE -- WE WILL NOT HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING
01:00:52PM OF WORKSHOP.
01:00:53PM WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER EACH ITEM -- AFTER THE
01:00:57PM PRESENTATION, EXCUSE ME.
01:00:58PM AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
01:00:58PM JUST FYI IF YOU WERE HERE AND WAITING TO TALK, YOU WILL HAVE
01:01:02PM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AFTER EACH PRESENTATION.
01:01:04PM SO WE NEED TO DO AN AGENDA REVIEW, PLEASE.
01:01:08PM THE -- WHAT WAS PUBLISHED WAS THIS -- COUNCIL DISCUSSION THE
01:01:13PM RECOMMENDATION OF FISCAL YEAR 2026 -- BUDGET FOR 2026.
01:01:17PM MY SUGGESTION AFTER CONSULTING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION IS
01:01:20PM THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP WILL BE OVER REVENUE, EXPENSE AND
01:01:24PM CAPITAL FOR GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS. POLICE, FIRE AND
01:01:28PM PARKS, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND TRANSPORTATION THAT
01:01:33PM INCLUDED A DISCUSSION ON ROAD RESURFACING.
01:01:35PM I SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUNDING TO
01:01:41PM THE END OF ONE THE WORKSHOPS ON AUGUST 11.
01:01:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SUPPORT THAT.
01:01:47PM MAKE A MOTION --
01:01:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR MIKE WAS NOT ON FOR SOME REASON.
01:01:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
01:01:55PM IF WE CAN GET A COPY OF THAT, THOUGH.
01:01:57PM IF TIM -- SORRY, IF MR. HEBERLINE CAN MAKE A COPY OF THAT.
01:02:03PM FOR ME, I NEED TO FIND AN ACTUAL COPY.
01:02:08PM SO WE DON'T GET STUCK TALKING ABOUT SOCIAL ACTION ARTS
01:02:13PM FUNDING TODAY.
01:02:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL PERSONS GET A
01:02:16PM COPY OF THE E-MAIL WITH THE PROPOSED AGENDA CHANGES THAT WE
01:02:20PM DISCUSSED EARLIER.
01:02:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, THERE HE IS.
01:02:22PM CAN YOU JUST ZIP THAT THROUGH THE COPY MACHINE.
01:02:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU MIND?
01:02:26PM OKAY.
01:02:27PM SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:02:30PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:02:32PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:02:33PM OPPOSED.
01:02:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION AGAIN WAS, I AM SORRY.
01:02:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ACCEPT THAT AS AGENDA ITEM FOR TODAY'S
01:02:41PM WORKSHOP AND DO YOU WANT IT TO IT BE THE FIRST OR THE SECOND
01:02:45PM WORKSHOP FOR THE SOCIAL ACTION FUND.
01:02:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND AT THE END.
01:02:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
01:02:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE EVENING ONE.
01:02:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT THE EVENING, BUT THE MORNING.
01:02:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 8 A.M., AUGUST 11.
01:02:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:03:00PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:03:02PM AYES HAVE IT.
01:03:04PM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION.
01:03:08PM JUST FOR INFORMATION, WE CAN NOT DO BUSINESS AT TODAY'S
01:03:11PM MEETING.
01:03:12PM SO WE WILL TAKE INFORMATION FROM FOLIO NUMBER 3, AND AT THAT
01:03:16PM TIME, WE WILL ASK COUNCIL TO CONTINUE THIS TO AUGUST 7 FOR
01:03:19PM ACTUAL COUNCIL ACTION.
01:03:21PM OKAY?
01:03:22PM FYI.
01:03:23PM MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
01:03:27PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:03:29PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:03:31PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:03:32PM OPPOSED.
01:03:33PM AYES HAVE IT.
01:03:34PM KICK IT OFF WITH -- WHO FROM STAFF WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT.
01:03:37PM DENNIS?
01:03:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:03:47PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
01:03:51PM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE ONCE AGAIN TO TALK OF NEXT
01:03:54PM YEAR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
01:03:55PM WITH YOUR -- AT YOUR PLEASURE, I SHOULD SAY, WE HAVE A BRIEF
01:04:00PM KIND OF REFRESHER PRESENTATION.
01:04:02PM YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT MUCH OF THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
01:04:06PM WHEN WE PRESENTED TO YOU -- IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE HAVE A
01:04:08PM LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESH ON THE POWERPOINT FOR YOU.
01:04:11PM IS THAT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
01:04:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
01:04:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:04:17PM CAN I HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE.
01:04:19PM AND, AGAIN, THE TABLE OF CONTENTS FOR THE AGENDA IS VERY,
01:04:28PM VERY SIMILAR WITH WHAT WE WENT THROUGH JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.
01:04:31PM WE WILL GO VERY HIGH-LEVEL VIEW OF THE OPERATING CAPITAL
01:04:35PM BUDGET.
01:04:35PM WE WILL TOUCH BRIEFLY -- EVEN MORE BRIEFLY ON THE SOCIAL
01:04:39PM ACTION AND ARTS FUNDING SINCE WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT
01:04:45PM NEXT WEEK.
01:04:45PM AND BECAUSE WE ARE TIED FROM THE CIP AND THE CAPITAL
01:04:49PM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AT NEXT WEEK'S WORKSHOP, WE WILL DO AN
01:04:53PM OVERVIEW OF OUR DEBT PROGRAM.
01:04:56PM AND, AGAIN, AS YOU SAW IN THE PUBLIC THAT WAS WATCHING, SAW
01:05:01PM JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, $1.9 BILLION, ALMOST $2 BILLION OF
01:05:08PM THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BROKEN UP BY THESE PARTICULAR FUNDS.
01:05:12PM ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THE GENERAL FUND GET MOST OF OUR
01:05:16PM ATTENTION BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LARGEST SLICES AND THEY
01:05:18PM REMAIN TO NEXT YEAR.
01:05:19PM BEGINNING WITH THE GENERAL FUND, IN PUBLIC SAFETY AT OVER
01:05:23PM HALF, LITTLE OVER 60%.
01:05:26PM WE HAVE THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICES.
01:05:28PM THOSE BEHIND THE SCENES, THOSE BACK-OFFICE FUNCTIONS THAT
01:05:33PM KEEP THE CITY RUNNING.
01:05:34PM AND PARKS AND RECREATION, ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE
01:05:37PM GENERAL FUND.
01:05:37PM AND, OF COURSE, AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST, WE CONTINUE TO SHOW
01:05:47PM THIS SLIDE WHICH GIVES A VERY NICE, I THINK, CONTRAST AND
01:05:51PM COMPASSION TO WHAT WE TAKE IN OR WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WE ARE
01:05:53PM GOING TO TAKE IN NEXT YEAR IN PROPERTY TAXES VERSES THE
01:05:59PM COSTS OF POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES.
01:06:01PM IN THE UPPER RIGHT -- SORRY, IN THE UPPER RIGHT, YOU SEE WE
01:06:08PM ALSO ADDED A NOTATION THAT IS NEARLY $100 MILLION MORE THAN
01:06:13PM WHAT THE GENERAL FUND IS ANTICIPATED TO TAKE IN.
01:06:15PM AFTER WE TAKE THE $60 MILLION FOR -- OUT FOR THE CRAs.
01:06:22PM AND, AGAIN, I THINK, AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE, WHEN I AM
01:06:29PM TALKING TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND OTHERS IN LOCAL
01:06:31PM GOVERNMENT, THERE IS AN EMPHASIS -- AND JUSTIFIABLY SO -- ON
01:06:36PM PROPERTY TAXES BUT NOT SO MUCH OF THE EMPHASIS THAT IS OUR
01:06:40PM ONLY FUNDING SOURCE.
01:06:41PM OF COURSE, THAT CANNOT BE OUR ONLY FUNDING SOURCE BECAUSE IT
01:06:47PM WOULD BE INADEQUATE FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
01:06:49PM PULLING THAT THREAD A LITTLE MORE, WE ADDED THE PARK AND
01:06:52PM RECREATION PORTION A LITTLE OVER $71 MILLION.
01:06:55PM AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE COMPARED TO THE PROPERTY TAXES, THE
01:06:58PM GENERAL FUND RECEIVES IS WILLFULLY INADEQUATE TO PAY FOR
01:07:02PM THESE SERVICES, A CONTINUING EMPHASIS ON THE FUNDING THROUGH
01:07:14PM 2010 TO 2026 BUDGET.
01:07:17PM TO THE EXTENT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO -- SINCE 2014, KEEPING
01:07:22PM THAT 24%, 23%, WHICH HAS BECOME SO IMPORTANT NOT ONLY TO US
01:07:27PM BUT TO THE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES AND INVESTORS IN THE
01:07:30PM MARKET WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CHOOSE TO FINANCE OR ISSUE
01:07:34PM DEBT.
01:07:34PM COMING FROM A HIGH YOU SEE ON THE FAR LEFT OF 2010, ABOUT
01:07:41PM $140 MILLIONISH DOLLARS OR 37%.
01:07:43PM AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, WE ONLY RECENTLY REACHED THAT
01:07:47PM LEVEL IN TERMS OF PURE DOLLARS.
01:07:50PM AGAIN, AN OVERVIEW OF OUR MAJOR GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND
01:08:00PM EXPENDITURES.
01:08:00PM AGAIN, PROPERTY TAXES -- I WILL EMPHASIZE THIS IS THE SINGLE
01:08:05PM LARGEST REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE CITY AND THE SINGLE LARGEST
01:08:13PM FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
01:08:14PM THE IMPLEMENTATION, THE ANTICIPATED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
01:08:22PM SCHOOL SAFETY CAMERAS AND WE TALKED OF A PILOT, PAYMENT
01:08:31PM IN LIEU OF TAXES AND FRANCHISE FEES THE COSTS TO USE CITY
01:08:36PM RESOURCES.
01:08:37PM TO THE RIGHT, YOU SEE OUR MAJOR EXPENDITURE INCREASES.
01:08:41PM AS HAVE BEEN TYPICAL, SALARY AND BENEFITS INCREASE IS THE
01:08:45PM LARGEST BY FAR AT 30 MILLION.
01:08:47PM A LITTLE ROUNDING THERE.
01:08:48PM FOUR AND A HALF FTEs, FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT, POSITIONS.
01:08:54PM CRA CONTRIBUTIONS ARE INCREASING NEARLY $6 MILLION.
01:08:59PM ASKING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE TECO STREETCAR BUDGET OF $2
01:09:03PM MILLION.
01:09:03PM HART ROUTE ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CIRCLED BACK TO YOU
01:09:07PM YET, MA'AM -- OKAY, APOLOGIZE.
01:09:10PM I WAS OUT ON VACATION.
01:09:12PM A QUESTION HAS SURFACED THAT .4 MILLION, THE $400,000.
01:09:17PM IS THAT AN INCREASE TO THE PROGRAM CONTRIBUTION?
01:09:20PM THE PROGRAM CONTRIBUTION IN TOTAL WAS ABOUT $1.6 MILLION.
01:09:24PM THIS IS NOT AN INCREASE TO THAT.
01:09:26PM THIS IS SIMPLY AN ACCOUNTING ISSUE ASSOCIATED FROM MOVING
01:09:30PM FROM ONE FISCAL YEAR TO THE OTHER.
01:09:31PM AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SUSPECTED.
01:09:35PM MA'AM, YOU ARE CORRECT.
01:09:36PM I HAVE SHARED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION YOUR DESIRE TO
01:09:39PM INCREASE THAT TOTAL CONTRIBUTION, BUT THAT .4, $400,000 IS
01:09:44PM NOT AN OVERALL INCREASE IN THAT PROGRAM.
01:09:46PM AND YOU HAVE INCREASED COST OF NEARLY $10 MILLION.
01:09:53PM AND, AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD PICTURE OF HOW TIGHT
01:09:57PM THE TOLERANCES ARE GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR '26.
01:10:00PM AGAIN, MAINTAINING OUR FUND BALANCE, PUTTING THE ESSENTIALS
01:10:04PM IN THE OTHER FUND BALANCES LIKE EMERGENCY RESERVES, ETC.
01:10:08PM YOU SEE THAT THE WIGGLE ROOM FOR INCREASED LEVELS OF
01:10:12PM EXISTING SERVICES AND ANY NEW SERVICES AT THIS SCALE, VERY
01:10:17PM TIGHT A LITTLE OVER $5 MILLION.
01:10:25PM I WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE OUR MILLAGE COMPASSION COMPARED TO --
01:10:30PM WELL, OUR COMPARISONS.
01:10:31PM COMPARISONS OF CITIES OF ORLANDO, ST. PETERSBURG AND MIAMI.
01:10:34PM WE CONTINUE TO COME IN BELOW THEM AS YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM A
01:10:39PM CITY THAT HAS ONLY RAISED ITS MILLAGE ONCE IN THE LAST 30
01:10:44PM YEARS.
01:10:45PM OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE FIVE YEARS 2026-'30.
01:10:55PM A LITTLE OVER $345 MILLION.
01:11:02PM MANY OF THEM CONTINUED PROJECTS AND MANY OF THEM ANTICIPATED
01:11:04PM TO BE FUNDED FROM FINANCING, WHICH WE WILL GET INTO IN --
01:11:10PM JUST MORE INTO IN JUST A MOMENT AND DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL
01:11:14PM WITH THE WORKSHOP.
01:11:15PM THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND HOUSING.
01:11:19PM SOCIAL -- I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN HOUSING OUT OF THERE.
01:11:23PM BUT AGAIN, EVIDENTLY, WE WILL DISCUSS THAT IN MORE DETAIL
01:11:27PM NEXT WEEK.
01:11:27PM SO I DON'T BELABOR IT, BUT A QUICK RECAP TO THE NONPROFITS.
01:11:32PM WE ARE RECOMMENDING $1 MILLION EVEN, AND WE ARE ALSO
01:11:35PM RECOMMENDING THE FUNDING YOU SEE HERE FOR THE CITY ASSETS
01:11:39PM THE AQUARIUM, THE ZOO, THE STRAZ, ETC.
01:11:44PM WE HAVE SEPARATED ECONOMIC AND OPPORTUNITY FUNDING ALSO.
01:11:49PM OUR DEBT PROGRAM.
01:11:51PM AGAIN, ALWAYS LIKE TO BRAG AND ALWAYS LIKE TO CONGRATULATE
01:11:56PM THE MAYOR, COUNCIL, AND THE ENTIRE CITY TEAM FOR THESE
01:12:00PM OUTSTANDING RATINGS AND THESE UPGRADES.
01:12:02PM AGAIN, WE ARE BREATHING VERY, VERY HEAVY AIR WHEN IT COMES
01:12:06PM TO OUR RATINGS.
01:12:09PM AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT IN CONTINUING THIS.
01:12:12PM WE HAVE -- DEBT ISSUE ANSWERS OVER A QUARTER BILLION OVER
01:12:19PM THE NEXT THREE TO FIRE YEARS.
01:12:21PM AND WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE COUNCIL, WE TRY TO
01:12:25PM TIME THAT SO WE DON'T BORROW THE MONEY UNTIL WE NEED TO
01:12:29PM BORROW THE MONEY.
01:12:29PM AS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE, NOT ONLY IN
01:12:33PM OUR CREDIT RATINGS, BUT IN OUR TIMING OF THE MARKET WHEN WE
01:12:37PM DECIDED TO FINANCE.
01:12:38PM WHEN WE DECIDED TO BORROW.
01:12:39PM AND HERE IS A SHORTISH TERM PICTURE OF OUR ANNUAL DEBT
01:12:49PM SERVICE AS WE EMPHASIZED IN PAST TO GET PAST FISCAL YEAR
01:12:53PM 2029.
01:12:53PM A VERY NICE LEVEL AND RELATIVELY LOW DEBT SERVICE.
01:12:58PM AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THESE -- AS YOU SEE HERE, THE
01:13:06PM EXPIRATION OF LONG-TERM DEBT FROM THE CITY.
01:13:10PM AND OF THE THREE, FOUR YEARS, THE CITY SHOULD BE IN A GOOD
01:13:15PM DECISION IF THE CITY DECIDES TO FINANCE.
01:13:17PM A QUICK REFRESH OF THE ANTICIPATED ISSUANCES FORTHCOMING.
01:13:24PM NO PARTICULAR TIME FRAME FOR THESE SLIDES.
01:13:27PM AGAIN, THEY WILL DEPEND ON WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO SPENDS THE
01:13:30PM MONEY.
01:13:31PM AND HERE WE HAVE A -- WELL, KIND OF A 50,000-FOOT VIEW FROM
01:13:38PM FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, ETC.
01:13:40PM NEXT, THREE ISSUANCES UP TO BAT.
01:13:43PM FOR A TOTAL AGAIN ON THE LOWER RIGHT, YOU SEE $255ISH
01:13:49PM MILLION.
01:13:50PM WE SEE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE PARTICULAR PROJECTS.
01:13:56PM IN FACT, I THINK THE NEXT PRESENTATION WE WILL ORGANIZE
01:13:59PM THESE BY DEPARTMENTS BUT LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM, YOU SEE
01:14:03PM THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS AND THE ANTICIPATED PLACE IN THE
01:14:07PM QUEUE WE HAVE THEM FOR DEBT FINANCING.
01:14:11PM FOR INSTANCE, FIRE STATION NUMBER 24.
01:14:15PM NEXT, ON BAT.
01:14:16PM FOLLOWED BY A COUPLE OF OTHER FIRE STATION PROJECTS IN THE
01:14:20PM SECOND AND THIRD ISSUANCE.
01:14:22PM AGAIN, DEPENDING UPON WHEN THE FUNDING IS NEEDED.
01:14:25PM AND CONTINUING THROUGH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
01:14:30PM K-BAR RANCH.
01:14:32PM GUIDA HOUSE.
01:14:35PM MULTIMODAL NETWORK FUNDED PARTIALLY FROM A BUILD GRANT.
01:14:41PM AND THEN YOU HAVE ISSUANCE ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
01:14:44PM THESE ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND LIKELY THEY WILL CHANGE TO
01:14:47PM SOME DEGREE DEPEND ON PRIORITIZATION AND THE READINESS FOR
01:14:52PM THE FUNDING.
01:14:53PM THE NEXT WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK, AS WE HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED, I
01:15:00PM ANTICIPATE WE ARE GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THE CAPITAL
01:15:03PM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
01:15:04PM ANOTHER REASON WE WANTED TO REFRESH ON THE DEBT ISSUANCE.
01:15:07PM THE SPECIAL CALL WILL BE THE STORMWATER WORKSHOP COUNCIL HAS
01:15:14PM SCHEDULED AND THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
01:15:15PM THE BUDGET, OF COURSE, IS ONLINE.
01:15:22PM AND THANK YOU, AS ALWAYS.
01:15:25PM I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE IN LISTENING TO ME JUST KIND OF
01:15:29PM TEE IT UP AND REFRESH FROM OUR DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS
01:15:32PM AGO.
01:15:32PM AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
01:15:35PM AGAIN, WE DON'T -- WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, WE WILL GET IT
01:15:39PM TO YOU.
01:15:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR COUNCIL, BEFORE WE START, I NEED TO
01:15:41PM REMIND A COUPLE -- SOME THINGS.
01:15:44PM BECAUSE IT IS A WORKSHOP, WE CAN'T TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION.
01:15:46PM WHAT WE WILL DO IS TRY TO REACH -- IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR
01:15:50PM ISSUE TO MAKE A MODIFICATION TRY TO REACH A CONSENSUS.
01:15:54PM THAT WILL BE DOCUMENTED BY OUR BUDGET ANALYST MISS COPESKY
01:15:58PM TO BE CARRIED FOR TO A PUBLIC HEARING FOR OFFICIAL ACTION
01:16:02PM FROM COUNCIL.
01:16:02PM AGAIN, WE CAN'T TAKE ANY VOTES TONIGHT -- OR THIS AFTERNOON.
01:16:08PM IT WILL BE AN AGREEMENT TO MOVE TOO FORWARD TO THE FIRST
01:16:11PM PUBLIC HEARING.
01:16:12PM WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE?
01:16:13PM I GUESS -- COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BUDGET
01:16:18PM PRESENTATION.
01:16:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I MAKE GENERAL COMMENTS OR SHOULD I
01:16:22PM WAIT UNTIL AFTER WE SPEAK.
01:16:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:16:26PM WHAT IS COUNCIL'S DESIRE.
01:16:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN I
01:16:31PM WILL --
01:16:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:16:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S IT FOR THIS PORTION OF THE
01:16:37PM CONVERSATION.
01:16:37PM IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ARE IN THAT PORTION.
01:16:42PM GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE -- OH, HERE WE GO.
01:16:45PM YOU GOT TO MOVE QUICKER THAN THAT.
01:16:47PM I AM GOING TO PUT A TIMER.
01:16:56PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:17:02PM SORRY, I WAS TRYING TO FIND A PASSWORD TO GET ON MY
01:17:06PM COMPUTER.
01:17:06PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
01:17:08PM ONE THAT REALLY, REALLY RUBS ME RAW IN THIS C.I.P. PLAN IS
01:17:14PM GANDY PARK AND A.J. PALONAS PARK.
01:17:18PM ONLY GAVE US $2 MILLION TO PAY FOR THIS PARK TO IT BE
01:17:22PM RENOVATED BACK IN 2021.
01:17:26PM APRIL OR MAY OF 2021.
01:17:27PM THEY GAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA $2 MILLION.
01:17:30PM YET THEY ONLY SPENT $200 ON IT.
01:17:34PM CAN YOU SEE IT?
01:17:35PM I AM SORRY.
01:17:36PM WELL, WAIT.
01:17:37PM WE ONLY SPENT $200,000.
01:17:40PM WE GOT $2 MILLION.
01:17:42PM SOMEBODY WROTE A CHECK FOR THIS.
01:17:44PM HERE WE ARE 2025, AND WE HAVE FIVE YEARS PROJECTED ON HERE
01:17:48PM WHERE WE ARE STILL GOING TO SPEND THE $2 MILLION ON
01:17:52PM SOMETHING SOUTH OF GANDY.
01:17:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU MOVE IN FRONT OF THE MICROPHONE
01:17:58PM AND THE PODIUM.
01:17:59PM >> I AM SORRY.
01:18:00PM I AM KIND OF MIFFED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE MONEY WAS THERE
01:18:03PM AGAIN AND THE WORK HAS NOT BEEN DONE.
01:18:05PM I HAD -- I AM TOTALLY UNPREPARED BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET MY
01:18:10PM STUFF TOGETHER.
01:18:11PM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE WAS THE -- THE BUCKET OF
01:18:18PM MONEY THAT WE ALWAYS KEEP, THE 23%, THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
01:18:21PM I SEE THAT IS IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
01:18:25PM LIKE $5.7 MILLION IN THE HR DEPARTMENT.
01:18:29PM IS THAT -- DOES THAT GET MOVED BACK?
01:18:31PM I MEAN WE ARE ALMOST TO THE END OF THE CURRENT YEAR.
01:18:34PM WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM AND GO TO?
01:18:40PM I -- YOU I JUST GOT THE -- THE REACHING STUFF.
01:18:44PM GLAD TO SEE IT IS CLOSER TO WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE MADE IT FOR
01:18:47PM THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
01:18:48PM I THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE.
01:18:49PM AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO MORE.
01:18:51PM I KNOW THIS.
01:18:53PM ON -- ON ONE OF THE FACEBOOK GROUPS FOR SOUTH TAMPA, THERE
01:18:57PM ARE A LOT OF WOMEN WHO ARE UPSET THAT THERE IS VERY LITTLE
01:19:01PM MONEY TO BE SPENT FOR PARKS AND REC IN SOUTH TAMPA.
01:19:04PM AND I AM ALSO GOING TO POINT OUT -- IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE THEY
01:19:08PM BUILT A $300,000 MEMORIAL -- ACTUALLY, THAT IS ON THE LIST
01:19:12PM OF THE MILITARY -- THE VETERANS MEMORIAL IS $900,000 TO BE
01:19:17PM SPENT ON MEMORIALS TO BE PUT IN OUR PARKS.
01:19:19PM BUT YET, ONE LADY SAID YOU PUT IN A $300,000 MEMORIAL, AND
01:19:25PM YET YOU DON'T REALIGN THE TENNIS COURTS.
01:19:34PM WHERE THE HOMELESS LIVE BEHIND AND THROW THEIR NEEDLES INTO
01:19:39PM THE FIELD.
01:19:39PM THE WORST LOCATION.
01:19:41PM AND I HAVE LOTS MORE TO SAY.
01:19:45PM EVERY TIME STAFF GETS UP HERE, THEY ARE HERE FOR TWO, THREE
01:19:50PM HOURS. AND BUT THEY WERE UP HERE FOR 30 MINUTES.
01:19:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY WILL BE BACK.
01:19:55PM THANK YOU, NEXT.
01:19:56PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ALISON HEWITT, EAST TAMPA RESIDENT AND
01:20:00PM BUSINESS OWNER.
01:20:00PM COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
01:20:01PM SO I SAW THERE IS A $5.8 MILLION FOR THE CRA GOING INTO THE
01:20:07PM CITY BUDGET AND THAT IS MOSTLY FOR STAFF.
01:20:10PM SO WILL THAT MEAN THAT OUR CRA PROJECTS WILL FINALLY BE
01:20:15PM PRIORITIZED?
01:20:15PM TAKES AN AVERAGE OF TWO YEARS FOR PROGRAMS TO GET THROUGH
01:20:19PM AND MUCH LESS PROJECTS.
01:20:20PM IF WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE IT TO $5.8 MILLION AND SHOULD BE
01:20:24PM PAYING FOR SERVICES AND GET RESPONSES TO THE CRA FOR OUR
01:20:27PM PROJECTS.
01:20:27PM ALSO, ON THE SAFF BUDGET.
01:20:31PM IS THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT SO LOW BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO
01:20:35PM BE OFFSETTING THOSE PROJECTS FROM CRA DOLLARS?
01:20:38PM IF I CAN HAVE SOME CLARITY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT TO
01:20:43PM REMIND THAT THE CRA BUDGET -- MONEY WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO
01:20:47PM START PROJECTS AND NOT MAINTAIN THEM.
01:20:49PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING FLORIDA STATUTES FOR
01:20:52PM THAT.
01:20:53PM THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, LOOKING THROUGH THE
01:20:56PM BUDGET, WE HAVE ABOUT $62.9 MILLION THAT IS SPECIFIC TO
01:21:01PM DISTRICT 5.
01:21:03PM AND SINCE WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT SEAT, IS THERE A WAY
01:21:06PM TO MAKE SURE -- DOING THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS THERE IS ABILITY
01:21:09PM TO SPECIFY SO THAT -- SO THAT THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW WHAT IS
01:21:13PM ACTUALLY GOING TO BE IMPACTING DISTRICT FIVE.
01:21:16PM HAVE THAT POTENTIALLY PART OF CONVERSATION AND ASKING THE
01:21:19PM STAFF PERSON, WHO IS STILL THERE, TO A ELECT THE MAJOR
01:21:23PM STAKEHOLDERS ON THE DISTRICT 5 AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS
01:21:26PM BUDGET INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING IT ON ONE PERSON.
01:21:30PM I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE CONVENTION CENTER IS
01:21:35PM UPGRADES ABOUT $5.5 MILLION.
01:21:37PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS GOING TO BE A COMBINATION OF CRA
01:21:43PM OR CITY DOLLARS.
01:21:43PM I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, AND MOSTLY, CAN WE MAKE SURE WE ARE
01:21:49PM VERY INTENTIONAL AND THE CITIZENS OF DISTRICT 5 AS YOU ARE
01:21:52PM HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS UNDERSTAND WHICH PORTION OF THOSE
01:21:55PM CONVERSATIONS IMPACT THEM SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A
01:21:58PM REPRESENTATIVE YET.
01:21:58PM THANK YOU.
01:21:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MISS HEWITT.
01:22:02PM NEXT?
01:22:04PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS CHARLIE ADAMS, PRESIDENT OF
01:22:10PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND DIRECTOR OF KIDS ON THE RIVER.
01:22:12PM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
01:22:13PM I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION -- OR DISCUSS OUR BOARDWALK.
01:22:16PM WE HAVE A BOARDWALK IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY THAT
01:22:19PM HAS BEEN DEEMED UNUSABLE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR MAYBE LIKE
01:22:26PM THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
01:22:27PM THE AREA IS NEAR AND DEAR NOT ONLY TO MYSELF BUT OTHER
01:22:31PM SULPHUR SPRINGS MEMBERS AS WE GREW UP.
01:22:34PM THIS IS AN AREA THAT WAS ONCE KIND OF LIKE A CULTURAL HUB
01:22:38PM FOR MANY AND WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILY
01:22:42PM TO GET CONNECTED TO NATURE ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
01:22:46PM AND JUST WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SOME
01:22:51PM ATTENTION SHED ON THIS PROJECT AND HOPEFULLY GET IT RESOLVED
01:22:56PM AND GO THE NEXT BUDGET TO HAVE REPAIRS DONE TO IT.
01:23:00PM IF NOT, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN GET DONE THROUGH THE
01:23:03PM COMMUNITY, PERSONALLY FUND RAISING TO HAVE IT REPAIRED
01:23:06PM OURSELVES.
01:23:07PM AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE IT HAS BEEN DOWN.
01:23:11PM AND WE WANT TO HAVE SOME SUPPORT IN THE SULFUR SPRINGS
01:23:15PM COMMUNITY.
01:23:15PM ALSO, IN REGARDS TO DIRECTOR OF KIDS ON THE -- A WONDERFUL
01:23:26PM SPRING MARKET, I AM SORRY, A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE
01:23:29PM A CULTURAL HUB AS OUR OFFICIAL FARMER'S MARKET AND WAITING
01:23:34PM TO ALLOCATE FUNDS TO CREATE JOBS, A CULTURE AND OPPORTUNITY
01:23:43PM FOR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.
01:23:45PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
01:23:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:23:48PM AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, AND SUBJECT COMMENT, WE
01:23:52PM WILL BE TALKING ON EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEMS.
01:23:53PM KEEP YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AS WE WORK
01:23:57PM THROUGH THE WORKSHOP HEARINGS.
01:24:00PM YOU WILL HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK OF WHATEVER IS NEAR
01:24:04PM OR DEAR TO YOUR HEART.
01:24:05PM TO REFOCUS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT -- OR THIS
01:24:09PM AFTERNOON, POLICE, FIRE, PARKS AND REC AND TRANSPORTATION.
01:24:12PM AND EVERY TIME THAT CITY STAFF COMES UP, FOCUS ON THE
01:24:18PM INDIVIDUALS TOPIC.
01:24:19PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
01:24:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EACH DEPARTMENT WILL COME UP?
01:24:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY WILL DO A PRESENTATION?
01:24:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK SO.
01:24:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WILL BE HERE TO BE DRILLED?
01:24:33PM OKAY.
01:24:34PM THAT WAS IT?
01:24:37PM ALL RIGHT, WOW.
01:24:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I TOLD MY WIFE --
01:24:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMINDER THAT WE HAVE TO BE OUT OF THE
01:24:45PM ROOM FROM 5:00 BECAUSE ANOTHER HEARING FROM A DIFFERENT
01:24:48PM ORGANIZATION IS IN THIS ROOM AT 5:30.
01:24:49PM FYI.
01:24:51PM ANYTHING ELSE.
01:24:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I GO?
01:24:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO.
01:24:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:24:57PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
01:24:58PM MR. ROGERO, YOU SAID YOU CAME BACK FROM VACATION, BUT YOU
01:25:03PM HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY AND WORKING WITH THE CITIZENS
01:25:06PM BUDGET BOARD.
01:25:06PM ALBERT COOK, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:25:09PM QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE.
01:25:11PM WANT TO THANK THE BOARD MEMBERS TO FOR TIME.
01:25:16PM THE ONES THAT ARE HERE.
01:25:17PM YOU DO IT FOR FREE.
01:25:18PM MISS POYNOR IS ON TOP OF IT.
01:25:21PM MR. COOK.
01:25:22PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
01:25:23PM YOU ARE THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU SEE A LOT OF HOW
01:25:25PM THINGS WORK.
01:25:26PM SO, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
01:25:28PM GOOD PRESENTATION.
01:25:29PM I AM LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL DEBT ISSUANCES,
01:25:34PM PROJECTS WE WANT TO TAKE ON.
01:25:36PM AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW.
01:25:43PM MR. ADAMS FROM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
01:25:46PM I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING HIM ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
01:25:48PM HE HAS BEEN GOOD AND ACTIVE.
01:25:49PM I SENT AN E-MAIL TO CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT REGARDING THAT
01:25:53PM BOARDWALK AND WALKWAY, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC A SOUTH CAROLINA
01:25:58PM SING IT.
01:25:58PM I HAVE SEEN A VIDEO OF PEOPLE NEAR THERE.
01:26:01PM MIGHT ADDRESS THAT.
01:26:03PM THERE WAS A PARKS AND REC ISSUE.
01:26:08PM WOOD PANELS MISSING.
01:26:09PM SOMEONE WILL GET HURT AND I DON'T WANT THE LIABILITY, NUMBER
01:26:13PM ONE.
01:26:13PM NUMBER TWO, SULPHUR SPRINGS IS A VERY IMPORTANT AND HISTORIC
01:26:17PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:26:17PM IT HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN.
01:26:19PM THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY IS GROWING, CHANGING.
01:26:21PM I WAS IN WEST TAMPA.
01:26:24PM AND THERE ARE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING IN THE CRA.
01:26:35PM WE NEED TO SPREAD THE LOVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
01:26:36PM AND SULPHUR SPRINGS IS ONE.
01:26:38PM I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB -- AND I AM TALKING ABOUT
01:26:42PM EVEN AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH.
01:26:45PM WE HAVE THE CITY BUDGET.
01:26:46PM WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE AND WHAT WE CAN TO DO
01:26:51PM INVEST IN THESE COMMUNITIES.
01:26:52PM WE NEED TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE POTENTIAL THAT TAMPA
01:26:55PM HAS.
01:26:55PM PEOPLE SAY, WELL, SO MANY PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE.
01:26:59PM WHAT PARTS OF THE CITY ARE FLOURISHING AND GROWING?
01:27:03PM YOU GO OUT TO EAST TAMPA SULPHUR SPRINGS, IT IS LIKE A --
01:27:08PM LIKE A BLANK PALETTE.
01:27:12PM WHEN I SAY THAT, I SAY A LAND OF OPPORTUNITY.
01:27:14PM WE TALK OF GETTING GROCERY STORES.
01:27:16PM BASIC SERVICES IN THAT AREA.
01:27:18PM WE HAVE SEEN HOW DEVELOPERS HAVE COME HERE, INVESTORS COULD
01:27:22PM AM HERE -- LIKE THE ARMATURE WORKS BUILDING.
01:27:26PM WENT BY THERE FOREVER AND A CLOSED-OFF BUILDING AND NOW LOOK
01:27:32PM AT IT AS THE CATALYST ON TAMPA HEIGHTS.
01:27:34PM THE WEST TAMPA.
01:27:36PM WATER STREET.
01:27:37PM FROM WAREHOUSES TO UPSCALE TO PEOPLE COME.
01:27:40PM BUT, YOU KNOW, I -- I LOOK AT, LIKE, MAYOR GRECO -- I WENT
01:27:46PM TO SEE HIM THE OTHER DAY, AND HE HAD AN APPROACH.
01:27:49PM HE TELLS THE STORY OF A HOTEL.
01:27:52PM THE MARRIOTT.
01:27:53PM WE HAVE A BUILDING BUT NEEDED A BRAND.
01:27:56PM HE PICKED UP THE PHONE WITH HIS CONNECTIONS AND HE
01:27:59PM NEGOTIATED IT AND THE BRAND IS THERE.
01:28:01PM AND THE HOTEL IS THERE.
01:28:03PM WHATEVER.
01:28:03PM I'M GOING ON A TANGENT.
01:28:08PM WE CAN BETTER MARKET THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO SHOW IT IS JUST
01:28:13PM MORE THAN THE HOT SPOTS.
01:28:14PM GLAD TO SEE THE GUIDA HOUSE IN THE BUDGET.
01:28:17PM SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO WEST TAMPA AND THE GUIDA FAMILY.
01:28:24PM I AM GLAD TO SEE THEY HAVE RESURFACING CHARTER, AND ON THE
01:28:28PM OTHER SIDE SADLY AND GLADLY OFFER TRANSPORTATION.
01:28:32PM WE GET SOME MONEY FOR SOME PROJECTS, BUT THE NUMBER ONE
01:28:35PM COMPLAINT THAT I GET, THAT MANY OF US GET IS THE QUALITY OF
01:28:38PM OUR ROADS.
01:28:39PM I KNOW WE HAVE OUR IN-HOUSE PAVING.
01:28:41PM THROUGH WEST TAMPA AND MacDILL.
01:28:45PM I SEE A LOT OF STUFF GETTING DONE.
01:28:47PM I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ONE RESIDENT IN BEACH PARK ABOUT
01:28:53PM SWANN.
01:28:53PM I MENTION TO THE MAYOR TO GET SWANN PAVED WEST OF LOIS.
01:28:58PM WEST TO DALE MABRY.
01:28:59PM I DRIVE TO THE COMMUNITY WITH MY WIFE AND I SPECIFICALLY GO
01:29:04PM TO, YOU KNOW, THE WORST STREETS.
01:29:06PM GOMEZ SOUTH OF COLUMBUS.
01:29:08PM TURN OFF GOES TO A CUT-THROUGH OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTION WORK
01:29:13PM FOR THE REPAVING, THE ROAD IS SO BAD.
01:29:15PM IT LOOKS LIKE -- IT LOOKS LIKE AGREE MADE IT OR MAYBE
01:29:21PM SOMETHING WORSE.
01:29:21PM IT IS REALLY BAD.
01:29:22PM PEOPLE WHO COME TO TAMPA, THEY DRIVE ON OUR ROADS AND THEY
01:29:25PM SEE THE QUALITY OF IT.
01:29:26PM I KNOW THAT WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF RAIN.
01:29:29PM IT IS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, WHATEVER.
01:29:33PM ROADS ARE OUR BIGGEST PRIORITY.
01:29:36PM ROADS SHOULD BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PRIORITIES ON TOP OF
01:29:40PM HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
01:29:42PM I AM GLAD TO SEE MUCH OF THAT NUMBER WAS RESTORED.
01:29:45PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN HAS BEEN LEADING THE CHARGE ON
01:29:49PM THAT.
01:29:50PM SOCIAL ACTION WE WILL TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK.
01:29:52PM TALK OF STORMWATER NEXT WEEK.
01:29:54PM I HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
01:29:55PM I AM GLAD TO SEE CERTAIN THINGS IN THIS BUDGET, BUT, AGAIN,
01:30:00PM I WILL CLOSE IT OUT BY SAYING THAT SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL
01:30:02PM IMPROVEMENT, THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
01:30:04PM BUT SULPHUR SPRINGS, IN GENERAL.
01:30:06PM EAST TAMPA IN GENERAL.
01:30:07PM WE JUST NEED TO -- THERE IS SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY THERE.
01:30:10PM WE NEED TO FOCUS ON CONTINUE.
01:30:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:30:16PM DO WE LET STAFF RESPOND AND THEN GO TO YOU
01:30:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ESPECIALLY HAD ANY
01:30:22PM QUESTIONS, BUT I LITERALLY HAVE ACTUAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE
01:30:25PM THINGS.
01:30:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAKE NOTES.
01:30:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO ASK MISS COPESKY TO COME UP AND
01:30:31PM EXPLAIN THIS CHART BECAUSE IT IS HER CHART.
01:30:34PM THE RESURFACING AND THAT WAY IF HE WANTS TO SAY AFTER.
01:30:45PM BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK
01:30:47PM ABOUT RESURFACING.
01:30:49PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: ACTUALLY, I AM GOING TO ASK IF IT IS OKAY
01:30:54PM FOR HIM TO HAVE BRANDON UP HERE BECAUSE ONCE WE GO THROUGH
01:30:57PM IT, WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EXECUTION, WHICH WILL
01:30:59PM NOT BE SOMETHING THAT I WILL -- SORRY, HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY
01:31:04PM COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
01:31:07PM ASK FOR BRANDON AND DENNIS, AS WELL, BECAUSE AFTER THE
01:31:13PM FORMAT OF SLIDE THERE WILL BE DIALOGUE AROUND EXECUTION.
01:31:16PM HE WILL BE THERE FOR THAT.
01:31:17PM THIS WAS INTENDED TO SHOW THREE GENERALLY USED PROJECTS FOR
01:31:22PM WHAT WE WOULD CALL RECURRING PAVING.
01:31:26PM PAVING OCCURS IN SPECIFICS PROJECTS.
01:31:30PM THE PURPOSE OF TODAY AND THIS DISCUSSION, WE FELT IT WAS
01:31:33PM NECESSARY TO SHOW YOU WHAT DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR FISCAL
01:31:39PM 26 FOR RESURFACING.
01:31:43PM SO THE THREE IDs LISTED ARE PRESENTED IN CASE YOU WANT TO
01:31:48PM REFERENCE THEM IN THE MATERIALS.
01:31:49PM YOU WILL SEE THE SAME NUMBERS.
01:31:51PM AGAIN, BUDGETS FROM THE PAST WHICH HAS ACCUMULATED.
01:31:54PM WE HAVE SPENDING TO DATE THAT THEN LEAVES A REMAINING
01:31:59PM BALANCE OF TODAY ROUGHLY 4.5 MILLION.
01:32:02PM IN TERMS OF FISCAL 2026, A PORTION OF FIVE YEARS THAT YOU
01:32:09PM WILL BE APPROVING THIS YEAR ANOTHER 10.5 THAT IS INCLUDED IN
01:32:14PM THE CAP EX BUDGET.
01:32:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU POINT TO IT SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU
01:32:18PM ARE TALKING ABOUT?
01:32:24PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: YES, BUDGET TO DATE, REMAINING BALANCE
01:32:29PM AFTER -- I NEED TO REMEMBER TO DO MY NAILS NEXT TIME.
01:32:32PM FISCAL YEAR '26.
01:32:34PM IN YOUR MATERIALS IN THE BINDER, $10.5 MILLION OF NEW BUDGET
01:32:38PM DOLLARS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND I REFLECTED WHAT IS
01:32:41PM CURRENTLY POSITIONED IN THE OUTER YEARS FOR ADDITIONAL
01:32:45PM PAVING GOING FORWARD.
01:32:46PM AGAIN, YOU ARE NOT APPROVING THAT NOW.
01:32:48PM AND JUST TO GIVE SOME INSIGHT IN WHAT WAS PLANNED.
01:32:51PM I THINK THE QUESTION I KEEP HEARING IS, BREAK IT DOWN AND
01:32:55PM TELL ME WHAT DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR US FOR FISCAL '26.
01:33:01PM AGAIN, THE FINAL MONTHS OF '25 WILL SHAKE OUT, BUT FOR ALL
01:33:06PM MATERIAL PURPOSES, END WITH 4.5 OF HISTORICAL BALANCE.
01:33:11PM THE 10.4 THAT I REFERRED TO UP HERE OF NEW FISCAL 26 MONEY.
01:33:15PM WE -- YOU RECENTLY, AS A COUNCIL, REALLOCATED FROM THE
01:33:20PM FISCAL 24 SURPLUS FUNDS $5 MILLION FOR PAVING AND THAT IS
01:33:27PM REFLECTED HERE.
01:33:28PM JUST TO BE COMPLETE IN TERMS OF WHAT OTHER DOLLARS ARE
01:33:32PM AVAILABLE TO BE UTILIZED IMMEDIATELY FOR THE TRANSPORTATION
01:33:36PM MONEY OF 21.2, WHICH IN SUM, IS $41 MILLION.
01:33:42PM SO THAT IS WHAT WOULD -- WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO SPEND IN
01:33:49PM FISCAL '26.
01:33:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
01:33:53PM MR. ROGERO, BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK
01:34:02PM THAT THE $9.94 MILLION FOR FY '26 DOES NOT INCLUDE THE $5
01:34:08PM MILLION WE JUST REALLOCATED FROM '24.
01:34:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT DOES NOT.
01:34:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ALREADY ADDED THE NINE --
01:34:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
01:34:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE BRANDON'S PERSPECTIVE AND MISS
01:34:23PM KOPESKY TOLD ME WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW.
01:34:27PM PEOPLE SEE PAVING, AND THE FACT WE HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER --
01:34:31PM TAKING AWAY THE $321 MILLION FOR TRANSPORTATION, ALL ABOUT
01:34:38PM $30 MILLION.
01:34:39PM WHAT CAN WE TO DO MAKE SURE $20 MILLION IS SPENT THIS YEAR
01:34:45PM SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OVERAGE.
01:34:48PM WHAT DOES THAT TAKE FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT.
01:34:52PM MY GUESS WOULD BE CONTRACTORS.
01:34:53PM BUT IF YOU JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT WHAT CONTRACTOR IS
01:34:57PM CURRENTLY FOR IN HOUSE.
01:34:59PM AND HOW WE JUMP START THAT TO GET MORE DONE THIS FISCAL
01:35:05PM YEAR.
01:35:06PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: GOOD QUESTION.
01:35:09PM INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
01:35:12PM SO YOU ARE ASKING HOW WE CAN ENSURE THE $20 MILLION IS
01:35:16PM EXCLUSIVELY THE TRANSPORTATION MONEY CAN BE SPENT WITHIN THE
01:35:20PM NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
01:35:22PM IT IS A MATTER OF EXPEDITING WHAT WE HAVE IN HOUSE AND
01:35:32PM ENSURING THAT WE HAVE CONTRACT COMPATIBILITY EARLY ON.
01:35:36PM WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF CONTRACT THAT WILL INCLUDE
01:35:43PM TRANSPORTATION MONEY AS WELL AS THE -- THE PROJECTS FOR
01:35:46PM WHICH WE WERE PLANNING TO USE THE -- THE $5 MILLION
01:35:51PM REALLOCATION THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST WEEK.
01:35:54PM SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GUARANTEE THAT EVERY BIT OF THAT
01:35:59PM WILL BE SPENT BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT WE ARE
01:36:04PM WELL ON OUR WAY OF GETTING THAT UNDER WAY AND PAID OUT AND
01:36:07PM COMPLETED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
01:36:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION.
01:36:13PM WE DID TALK BRIEFLY LAST WEEK OF ADDING THE MAPPING FOR WHAT
01:36:17PM HAS BEEN PAVED, WHAT WILL BE PAVED.
01:36:20PM AGAIN, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE OFFER OF TRANSPORTATION IS
01:36:27PM GOING FOR SPECIFIC ROADS; IS THAT CORRECT?
01:36:30PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THAT'S CORRECT.
01:36:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WILL BE FOR THE 21 MILLION FOR
01:36:36PM TRANSPORTATION?
01:36:37PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: CORRECT.
01:36:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE CITY CONTROLLING THAT MONEY OR CITY DOING
01:36:41PM THE WORK OR CONTRACTORS PROVIDING THAT OR THE COUNTY OR
01:36:45PM STATE PROVIDING THAT.
01:36:46PM WHO IS THE DOING THE WORK?
01:36:48PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: MAY BE A COMBINATION.
01:36:50PM WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF PLANNING FOR THOSE PROJECTS IN TERMS
01:36:53PM OF IN-HOUSE VERSES CONSULTANT DESIGN AND IN-HOUSE VERSUS
01:36:59PM CONTRACTOR EXECUTION.
01:37:00PM I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT YUKON STREET IS ONE WE ARE
01:37:05PM DESIGNING IN-HOUSE.
01:37:06PM SOME OF THE OTHER SEGMENTS CYPRESS AND MacDILL, WE HAVE TO
01:37:11PM HAVE DESIGNED CONSULTANTS WITH CONTRACTS THAT ARE IN PLACE,
01:37:18PM WORK ORDER, SCOPE, FEE NETWORKS AS SUCH.
01:37:21PM BUT THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU EXECUTED AND THAT WE HAVE
01:37:28PM ONGOING CONSULTANT SUPPORT.
01:37:29PM RIGHT NOW OUR TEAMS -- OUR PAVING TEAMS ARE LOOKING AT THESE
01:37:33PM SEGMENTS TO SEE ARE THESE WITHIN OUR CAPABILITIES TO DO THE
01:37:37PM EXECUTION ON.
01:37:37PM AND SO I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW ON WHICH OF
01:37:43PM THESE SEGMENTS COULD BE PERFORMED IN HOUSE.
01:37:45PM I DO ANTICIPATE THAT MOST OF THEM WILL BE CONTRACTOR BUILT
01:37:53PM IF NOT ALL OF THEM.
01:37:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
01:37:56PM IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU, CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO BECAUSE AND
01:38:00PM LET OTHER QUESTIONS ASK QUESTIONS OF PAVING SINCE THIS IS A
01:38:03PM REALLY BIG TOPIC AND RESERVE THE REST OF MY TIME AFTER THAT.
01:38:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS A WORKSHOP.
01:38:08PM WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE.
01:38:10PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:38:13PM JUST ABOUT PAVING FOR NOW?
01:38:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THAT IS OKAY.
01:38:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU.
01:38:20PM I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ON PAVING, BECAUSE IT IS NOT THERE.
01:38:28PM AND I HAVE -- I HAVE QUESTIONS AND IN A BUNCH OF OTHER
01:38:31PM AREAS.
01:38:32PM WITH REGARD TO NEW TAMPA BOULEVARD, THAT AREA, ALL OF NEW
01:38:37PM TAMPA, ALL OF 33647 WAS LEFT OUT OF THE AFT MONEY, AND I WAS
01:38:42PM NOT HAPPY AND I WENT TO YOU ALL.
01:38:44PM AND YOU GUYS WERE WONDERFUL.
01:38:45PM AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
01:38:47PM WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS GOING FORWARD.
01:38:50PM Q2 AND 2006, IS THAT STILL?
01:38:55PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: IT IS MOVING FORWARD.
01:38:57PM WE IDENTIFIED THAT AS ONE OF THE PROJECTS FUNDED WITH THE $5
01:39:00PM MILLION REASSIGNMENT.
01:39:02PM UNSPENT FISCAL '24 FUNDS THAT YOU ALL HAD BEFORE YOU LAST
01:39:06PM WEEK.
01:39:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN SHOULD WE START SEEING THAT GET START?
01:39:12PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: IT IS UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
01:39:14PM I THINK SPRING OF '26 IS A LIKELY TIME FRAME TO SEE THAT
01:39:20PM STARTED.
01:39:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
01:39:22PM THAT IS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD PAVING.
01:39:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:39:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:39:28PM YOU MENTIONED TWO -- IN-HOUSE PAVING AND PAVING BY
01:39:32PM CONTRACTORS.
01:39:32PM ARE YOU DOING THIS IN A MANNERISM WHERE SOMEONE INDIVIDUAL
01:39:37PM SCRAPES WITH A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.
01:39:39PM OR THE OTHER ONE -- I BELIEVE YOU CAN DO IT FASTER OR
01:39:42PM CHEAPER IF ONE SCRAPES THE ROAD AND ONE PUTS THE PAVING OR
01:39:45PM DOING IT ONE SCRAPES AND PAVES AND THE OTHER SCRAPES AND
01:39:50PM PAVES.
01:39:50PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: BRAND AGENTS FOR OUR IN-HOUSE PROJECT
01:39:55PM AND IN-HOUSE FORCES, WE HAVE CONTRACT FOR THE MILLING
01:39:59PM ITSELF.
01:39:59PM COMPANY THAT WILL SCRAPE OFF THE TOP LEVEL AND THEN WE COME
01:40:04PM IN BEHIND THEM AND DO THE RESURFACING AND RESTRIPING.
01:40:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I ASK THAT.
01:40:08PM SOME ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN SCRAPED AND IT TAKES A WEEK OR TWO
01:40:11PM BEFORE THE PAVING COMES IN.
01:40:13PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF THE ROAD OR
01:40:16PM WHAT IT IS.
01:40:17PM I IMAGINE IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACTING AGREEMENT WITH CERTAIN
01:40:19PM CONTRACTORS, YOUR FAULT OF THESE PAVED -- SCAPE OR WE ARE
01:40:25PM GOING TO PAVE OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND, YOU CAN DO TWICE AS
01:40:28PM MUCH TWICE AS FAST.
01:40:31PM BRAND AGENTS.
01:40:32PM THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE THE CONTRACT WILL DO THE MILLING.
01:40:35PM AND CONTINUE BELOW IN CERTAIN AREAS IN WORSE SHAPE THAN WE
01:40:41PM THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE.
01:40:43PM SOMETIMES, IF THERE IS A DELAY BETWEEN THE MILLING AND THE
01:40:45PM REPAVING, IT COULD BE THAT.
01:40:47PM IT COULD BE THAT THEY HAVE A LARGER AREA THEY ARE GOING TO
01:40:50PM BEFORE WE COME IN AND JUST SORT OF TRY TO GET ALL OF
01:40:53PM THAT RESURFACING DONE WITHOUT HAVING TO MOBILIZE MULTIPLE
01:40:59PM TIMES.
01:40:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHOEVER SCRAPES DOES THE PAVING ALSO.
01:41:05PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THE IN-HOUSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TEAMS AND
01:41:09PM THE CONTRACTOR -- IF IT IS 100% CONTRACT-LED, THEY MAY HAVE
01:41:14PM A SUBCONTRACTOR THAT DOES THE MILLING OR WE MAY DO IT
01:41:17PM THEMSELVES, DEPENDS ON WHICH COMPANY.
01:41:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I ASK THAT, BECAUSE WHEN THAT
01:41:23PM HAPPENS, THE SCRAPERS COME THROUGH AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
01:41:25PM GOING TO DO THE PAVING, THEY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT THERE A WEEK
01:41:28PM WITHOUT BEING TOUCHED.
01:41:30PM THAT IS THE ONLY REASON I AM ASKING BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT
01:41:33PM ALSO.
01:41:33PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: UNDERSTOOD, IF THERE ARE ANY --
01:41:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT PUTTING YOU IN A BOX TO HAVE IT DONE
01:41:40PM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND EXPONENTIALLY AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT
01:41:43PM SPENDING ALL THE MONEY IF POSSIBLE.
01:41:45PM THANK YOU.
01:41:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:41:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: BRANDON, THIS SEGMENT FROM MacDILL TO BAY TO
01:41:53PM BAY, CONTROLLED BY THE COUNTY OR THE CITY?
01:41:55PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: CONTROLLED BY THE CITY.
01:41:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN?
01:42:00PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: YES.
01:42:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: PREVIOUSLY, I TOOK VIK ON A DRIVING TOUR IN
01:42:07PM THAT AREA.
01:42:08PM A LOT OF ACCESS TO THE SIDE STREETS AND REPAINTING OF LINES
01:42:12PM THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
01:42:13PM WHOEVER THE CONSULTANT IS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE TALK TO
01:42:17PM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT.
01:42:18PM I KNOW A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT TO IT THE NORTH OF BAY TO
01:42:22PM BAY AND A LOT HAPPENS THERE.
01:42:24PM NEXT IS THE -- YOU -- YOU ALSO PROBABLY KNOW THAT THERE IS
01:42:27PM STORMWATER CONCERNS ALONG THAT AREA ESPECIALLY AT THE LOWER
01:42:32PM ELEVATIONS.
01:42:32PM CAN YOU JUST PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THE -- THAT THE
01:42:37PM CONTRACTORS UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTIVITY TO FLOODING IN THAT
01:42:44PM AREA?
01:42:45PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: CERTAINLY.
01:42:46PM OUR AGREEMENT FOR THOSE FUNDS, WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.
01:42:49PM NOT ONLY PAVEMENT ITSELF, BUT PAVEMENT PLUS THOSE ITEMS THAT
01:42:53PM WILL BE ANCILLARY TO IT.
01:42:54PM SO IF THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ADJUSTMENT TO A STORM GRATE.
01:43:00PM NEEDS TO BE AN UPDATE TO AN A.D.A. RAMP.
01:43:05PM RECONFIGURATION.
01:43:10PM BUT THE PRIMARY WORK THAT IS RESURFACING UNDER EXISTING
01:43:15PM STATE AGLEAM.
01:43:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO A DEBATE ABOUT
01:43:18PM THIS, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GOT FLOODED IN THE PARKLAND
01:43:22PM ESTATES AND PALMA CEIA PINES AREA WAS BECAUSE OF THE
01:43:27PM REGRADING THAT THE STATE DID WITH ARMENIA NORTH OF THERE.
01:43:30PM AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN STORMWATER DISAGREE WITH IT.
01:43:33PM WHETHER THAT IS TRUE OR NOT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
01:43:37PM PHOENIX IN THE LOWER ELEVATION WHERE IT DIPS.
01:43:41PM THIS WAS FLOODED.
01:43:43PM AND IF THERE IS ANY WAY TO UPGRADE THE DITCHES TO PREVENT
01:43:46PM THAT, THAT WILL BE GREAT.
01:43:47PM IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY -- AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO FIX
01:43:51PM THESE NUMBERS IF I DON'T REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
01:43:52PM I SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT VIK PREVIOUSLY MAYBE A COUPLE OF
01:43:56PM YEARS AGO SAID THAT OUR ROAD REPAIR BUDGET SHOULD BE AROUND
01:44:00PM $50 MILLION -- $40 MILLION TO $50 MILLION.
01:44:05PM BECAUSE OF THE GREAT RECESSION WE DIDN'T SPEND VERY MUCH AND
01:44:08PM THEN PEOPLE THOUGHT ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION WOULD COME.
01:44:11PM THE NUMBER WAS ARTIFICIALLY LOW.
01:44:14PM $2 MILLION IN BACKLOG?
01:44:17PM I DO REMEMBER THE NUMBERS CORRECTLY.
01:44:18PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PINPOINT A
01:44:23PM BACKLOG?
01:44:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: TAMPA MOVES HAS A NUMBER --
01:44:27PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: IT MAY, I WILL HAVE TO LOOK.
01:44:29PM I REMEMBER A NUMBER BEING DISCUSSED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT
01:44:32PM IS STILL VALID.
01:44:35PM WE MAY HAVE REFRESH --
01:44:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: DENNIS TALKING ABOUT -- I DON'T REMEMBER THE
01:44:40PM PERCENTAGE, BUT TOTAL PROPERTY TAX PAYS 80% AND DOESN'T PAY
01:44:46PM ANYTHING ELSE.
01:44:46PM SO WE NEED TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT HOW TO HELP THE PEOPLE.
01:44:53PM BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A RECORD AMOUNT -- THE TOTAL IS NOT UP
01:44:56PM THERE, $23 MILLION.
01:44:57PM AND IF WE HAVE A RECORD AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND AN
01:45:01PM PAVING -- 41.
01:45:04PM RECORD AMOUNT WE SPEND ON PAVING AND $50 MILLION AND $2
01:45:09PM BILLION BEHIND, THIS IS NOT EVEN CATCHING UP.
01:45:11PM NOT TO BLAME ANYBODY, BUT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE AND HAVE TO
01:45:16PM LOOK AT THE PROBLEM.
01:45:17PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF WE SPEND $100,000 TO EACH OF THE 50
01:45:21PM PEOPLE, $4 BILLION, TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE TOTAL BUDGET OF
01:45:25PM THE CITY.
01:45:25PM BUT JUST TO SET EXPECTATIONS, WE HAVE $41 MILLION IN A GIVEN
01:45:31PM YEAR AN EXTRA SEVERAL -- GOING TO PUT A SMALL DENT IN IT AND
01:45:36PM SOMEHOW WE NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THE LARGER PUBLIC WHAT THE
01:45:40PM PROBLEM SO PEOPLE DON'T THINK WITH $40 MILLION WE WILL DO
01:45:42PM ALL THE ROADS IN THE CITY.
01:45:43PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
01:45:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:45:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:45:47PM JUST REAL QUICK, AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
01:45:53PM IF YOU PAVE THE ROADS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY.
01:45:56PM SO NO MISTAKE FROM THE PUBLIC, ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION,
01:46:03PM DEDICATED FOR THE $20 MILLION.
01:46:05PM NOT ON TOP OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.
01:46:08PM PEOPLE WANT TO SEE SOMETHING TANGIBLE WITH THEIR TAX
01:46:11PM DOLLARS.
01:46:11PM AT THE VERY LEAST, PAVE THE ROADS.
01:46:14PM THE ROADS ARE TERRIBLE.
01:46:16PM THEY HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED.
01:46:17PM WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY.
01:46:18PM BUT WE ALSO DID NOT PRIORITIZE.
01:46:20PM MY COMPLIMENTS TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA.
01:46:23PM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEY ARE SHOWING WE ARE OUT THERE
01:46:28PM WORKING.
01:46:28PM BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, A LOT OF ROADS THAT HAVEN'T
01:46:31PM BEEN TOUCHED IN DECADES THAT I REMEMBER WHEN THEY WERE PAVED
01:46:34PM 30 YEARS AGO AS A KID ARE FINALLY GETTING TOUCHED AGAIN.
01:46:38PM THEY ARE ON THAT SCHEDULE.
01:46:39PM AT THE VERY LEAST, IT IS SO SIMPLE BUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE
01:46:43PM ASKING.
01:46:43PM RESURFACING -- WHAT IS THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT?
01:46:47PM YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HIT A POTHOLE, AND THEY FILE A CLAIM.
01:46:51PM IT CAN CAUSE AN ACCIDENT.
01:46:53PM BAD FOR PEDESTRIANS AND QUICK ON AND ON.
01:46:58PM THE MOST WE CAN WITH THE AVAILABLE FUND AND GLAD TO HAVE
01:47:03PM $23.1 MILLION PUSH.
01:47:04PM IT HELPS.
01:47:05PM NOT EVERYTHING, AND I WISH IT WAS MORE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME
01:47:08PM THAT IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL ASK FOR.
01:47:10PM THANK YOU.
01:47:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:47:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE MORE THING, BRANDON.
01:47:18PM ON MY STREET WHEN I MOVED IN, THE WATER WAS CRACKED AND
01:47:22PM WATER SEEPED THROUGH AND NO FLOODING.
01:47:24PM WHEN I MOVE IN COMPLETELY RESURFACED AND SMOOTH -- BY THE
01:47:29PM WAY PEOPLE DROVE FASTER CONTINUE.
01:47:30PM SECOND, THERE WAS PONDING THROUGHOUT.
01:47:31PM THE CITY WENT IN AND PUT IN PERVIOUS ASPHALT ALONG THE EDGES
01:47:36PM OF THE PLACE WHERE THERE WAS PONDING, AND IT SOLVED THE
01:47:40PM PROBLEM.
01:47:40PM SO I KNOW IN THIS -- IN THAT ONE BUDGET, YOU ARE NOT LOOKING
01:47:44PM AT DOING INTERIOR ROADS, BUT TO THE EXTENT YOU ARE BECAUSE
01:47:48PM OF THE CONCERN OF FLOODING AND HOW JUST A LITTLE BIT OF
01:47:51PM WATER CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IF SOMEBODY'S HOUSE OR CAR
01:47:57PM FLOODS.
01:47:58PM IF THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF MONITORING WHERE IT PONDS AND
01:48:01PM FLOODS AND PUTTING PERVIOUS ASPHALT UNDER THE DIFFERENT FOR
01:48:07PM CERTAIN HOMEOWNERS.
01:48:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND MIRANDA.
01:48:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:48:15PM ALONG THE SAME LINE THAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST SPOKE.
01:48:18PM DO WE STILL BUILD IN THE ROAD -- THE LITTLE BUMP OVER --
01:48:22PM SPEED BUMPS.
01:48:24PM I HAVE SEEN SOME THAT ARE BEING BUILT AND MUCH SAFER AND
01:48:30PM INSTEAD OF SO HIGH, THEY ARE WIDER.
01:48:32PM GIVES YOU THE IDEA HEY, IF I HIT ONE, I NEED TO SLOW DOWN.
01:48:36PM THE REASON I AM ASKING THAT -- PEOPLE ASKING ME -- CALLING
01:48:40PM UP AND ASKING FOR THE ROADS OF GREEN.
01:48:43PM THE REASON GREEN I MENTIONED BECAUSE IN BETWEEN ARMENIA
01:48:48PM AND HIMES.
01:48:49PM IF YOU COME OFF THE EXPRESSWAY, A LOT OF CARS AND YOU HAVE
01:48:52PM TO ZOOM BECAUSE IT IS ALWAYS THE RAMP DRIVING UP.
01:48:56PM THE PEOPLE DRIVING GO FAST SO I CAN GO FASTER.
01:49:01PM AND BETWEEN ARMENIA AND MacDILL MUCH DIFFERENT SPEED THAN
01:49:05PM THE 25 THAT IS POSTED.
01:49:06PM I AM ONLY THINKING TO MYSELF THE REASON THEY SEE THEM GOING
01:49:11PM FAST TO GO THROUGH THE EXPRESSWAY AND CUT TRAFFIC.
01:49:15PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO
01:49:22PM MAKE THE ROAD SAFE ON GREEN.
01:49:25PM Y THEY HAVE A LOT OF 60s AND I APPRECIATE YOU DO SOMETHING
01:49:29PM ABOUT THAT.
01:49:30PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: WE WILL TAKE A LOOK.
01:49:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY TURN.
01:49:35PM I WANT TO START WITH THE GOOD STUFF.
01:49:38PM THIRD BUDGET CYCLE AND THE FIRST TIME WE HAVEN'T HAD TO CLAW
01:49:41PM AND FIGHT FOR KIND OF AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF SPENDING FOR
01:49:46PM PAVING.
01:49:46PM JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, TAKES IT ALL FOR
01:49:49PM TRANSPORTATION MONEY OUT.
01:49:50PM A SEPARATE DISCUSSION.
01:49:53PM BASIC FUNDING FROM FY '25-'26.
01:49:58PM TRIPLE -- WE ARE STARTING AT A BASELINE.
01:50:02PM APPRECIATE THE ADMINISTRATION WORKING WITH ME AND THE
01:50:05PM COUNCIL TO BRING FORWARD THAT PROPOSAL TO HAVE THAT
01:50:10PM REASONABLE REQUEST IN.
01:50:11PM THANKFUL THE COUNCIL SUPPORTED THAT $5 MILLION ALLOCATION
01:50:14PM FROM UNSPENT 2024 MONEY.
01:50:16PM I THINK THIS GOES ALONG WAY TOWARD, YOU KNOW, DOING THE --
01:50:20PM DOING THE GOOD WORK OF THE CITY AND IMPROVING THE STREETS.
01:50:22PM THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
01:50:25PM I DO WANT TO SEPARATE THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION, TAXPAYER
01:50:29PM MONEY THAT WAS PAID FOR -- THAT SET SALES TAX THAT WAS
01:50:32PM DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
01:50:35PM UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS 40% LESS THAN IT SHOULD BE FOR LAWYER
01:50:39PM FEES AND BECAUSE OF DISPROPORTIONATE MONEY IN TAMPA AND NOT
01:50:45PM IN THE CITY WITH THE MONEY IS GENERATED.
01:50:47PM SALES TAX MONEY IS ESSENTIAL GRATED.
01:50:49PM SHORT END OF THE STICK AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IF YOU ARE
01:50:52PM INTERESTING, TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:50:54PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:51:01PM WE REALLY -- EVERY YEAR THAT I AM ON COUNCIL, IT FIGHT FOR
01:51:06PM THE STREETS TO BE PAVED.
01:51:07PM BASIC SURFACES.
01:51:10PM NOBODY WILL SAVE US, STATE OF FLORIDA WILL NOT SAVE US, THE
01:51:15PM GOVERNMENT WILL NOT SAVE US, NOBODY WILL PAVE THE
01:51:17PM NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
01:51:18PM JUST THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:51:19PM WE NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND WE ARE DOING AWFUL LOT OF
01:51:25PM FEEDER ROADS OR WHAT YOU CLARIFY FOR US.
01:51:28PM CITY STREET ROADS A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN SOUTH TAMPA AND WEST
01:51:34PM TAMPA AND A LOT OF FOR ROADS.
01:51:39PM UP APPRECIATE THAT.
01:51:40PM ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION.
01:51:41PM SUGAR ON TOP OF STUFF.
01:51:43PM QUESTION OF THE SPEED BUMP THING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA
01:51:47PM JUST DISCUSSED.
01:51:48PM I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION BECAUSE OF FIRE TRUCKS AND OTHER
01:51:51PM THINGS WE ARE NOT SUPPORTING THE INSTALLATION OF SPEED
01:51:54PM BUMPS.
01:51:55PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: WE DO ON A LIMITED BASIS SPEED CUSHIONS.
01:51:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPEED CUSHIONS -- A NICE LITTLE NAME.
01:52:07PM LIKE PINK PONY.
01:52:09PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: SPEED BUMPS ARE THE LABEL ON THE THINGS
01:52:13PM YOU PUT IN PARKING LOT THAT ARE VERY ABRUPT AND KIND OF
01:52:17PM AGGRESSIVE.
01:52:17PM YOU LOOK WHAT WE DID ON THE GREEN ARTERY RECENTLY COMPLETED.
01:52:22PM A TRAFFIC COMING PROJECT.
01:52:26PM AND A PROJECT TO MAKE THE FACILITY BETTER FOR BICYCLISTS AND
01:52:32PM PEDESTRIANS.
01:52:32PM IT WAS DONE ON ROADS THAT WERE NOT FUNCTIONALLY CLASSIFIED.
01:52:35PM WE HAVE GOT TO BE A LITTLE BIT CAREFUL WHICH FACILITIES WE
01:52:38PM DO THAT SORT OF TREATMENT ON.
01:52:40PM JUST IN RECOGNITION OF SOME OF THOSE ISSUES THAT YOU
01:52:44PM MENTIONED LIKE EMERGENCY ACCESS.
01:52:47PM NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION AND THEY ARE NOT WITHOUT
01:52:49PM CONTROVERSY.
01:52:49PM HAPPY TO LOOK AT ANY SPECIFIC SPOTS WHERE THAT MIGHT BE
01:52:53PM APPROPRIATE.
01:52:54PM BUT WE STILL DO THOSE ON A LIMITED BASIS.
01:52:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, THANK YOU.
01:53:00PM I KNOW WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THIS -- NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING
01:53:04PM TODAY IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT THE PROJECTIONS I LOOK AT FOR
01:53:07PM YOUR BUDGETING FOR 2028, '29 AND '30.
01:53:11PM EXTRAORDINARY MODEST.
01:53:14PM PAVING CONDITIONS.
01:53:16PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: A QUESTION THAT YOU CARE TO ADDRESS?
01:53:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THOSE ARE LIKE SETTING US UP FOR FIGHTING.
01:53:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I AM SORRY?
01:53:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THOSE PROJECTED NUMBERS ARE SETTING US UP
01:53:33PM TO BATTLE.
01:53:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WOULDN'T PUT TOO MUCH IN THOSE NUMBERS.
01:53:38PM WE DON'T KNOW FURTHER TO THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION OF
01:53:43PM CAPACITY.
01:53:43PM WE COULD LOCK UP FUNDING EACH AND EVERY YEAR, BUT IF IT
01:53:47PM CAN'T BE SPENT, THEN THAT IS FUNDING THAT COUNCIL, THE MAYOR
01:53:51PM DON'T HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND ELSEWHERE THAT CAN BE SPENT
01:53:56PM FASTER.
01:53:56PM I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE IN DARK CONTRAST TO THIS YEAR AND
01:54:00PM THE PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT THEY ARE SO TENTATIVE AT THIS TIME.
01:54:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM NOT TOO RECEPTIVE OF THAT CAPACITY
01:54:09PM ARGUMENT.
01:54:10PM I GET IT -- I GET IT AND MAYBE DON'T GET IT OR ONE OR TWO
01:54:15PM FISCAL YEARS IN THE PAST.
01:54:17PM FOR THIS NEED, WE NEED TO SPEND WHERE WE SPEND MONEY AND
01:54:22PM BUILD CAPACITY.
01:54:23PM THE WHOLE CAPACITY ARGUMENT, I MEAN, I AM HAVING A TOUGH
01:54:28PM TIME DIGESTING IT.
01:54:30PM AT LEAST FOR MY TASTE, IT IS USED TOO FREQUENTLY AND TOO
01:54:34PM LONG BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE BUILT THAT, AND
01:54:38PM ANTICIPATE THAT CAPACITY AND BUILD IT IN EACH FISCAL YEAR TO
01:54:43PM ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH AND LACK OF PAST SPENDING ON
01:54:47PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:54:47PM AGAIN, I AM NOT SENSITIVE TO THAT CAPACITY ESTIMATE, BECAUSE
01:54:50PM I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT WE CAN BUILD MASSIVE
01:54:54PM BUILDINGS AND HUGE PARKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND NOT HIRE A
01:55:02PM COMPANY TO PAVE A DAMN ROAD.
01:55:04PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
01:55:05PM I THINK THE DIRECTOR HAS SPOKEN TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE
01:55:08PM ALREADY -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TO ACCELERATE THEIR PACE
01:55:11PM OF SENDING.
01:55:13PM THE OTHER TWO-PRONGED REASONS WHY YOU HAVE THE FIGURES, YOU
01:55:18PM HAVE THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX, VERSION TWO, SUBSTANTIAL
01:55:23PM AMOUNT OF TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY HAVEN'T BEEN PARSED
01:55:26PM OUT PARTICULARLY YET.
01:55:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS THE REPLACEMENT TYPE
01:55:31PM OF FUNDING.
01:55:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK POINTED OUT THAT $5 MILLION WAS
01:55:35PM REPLACEMENT FUNDING ON TOP OF THE FUNDING WE WERE
01:55:38PM ANTICIPATING BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN THE FLORIDA
01:55:41PM LOTTERY OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
01:55:43PM YOU TAKE EDUCATION AND PRETEND IT IS NEW MONEY AND IT IS
01:55:46PM NOT.
01:55:46PM I AM GLAD IT IS NEW MONEY.
01:55:48PM ON THE ANTICIPATION OF THE CAPACITY.
01:55:51PM REALLY FROM THIS ONE COUNCILPERSON'S PERSPECTIVE.
01:55:55PM FROM WHAT I HEAR YOU SAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR PERSON IS
01:56:02PM DILIGENTLY TO HAVE THIS.
01:56:04PM SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL END '26 WITH NO ROLLOVER MONEY AND WE
01:56:09PM WOULD HAVE PAVED A LOT OF MORE ROADS.
01:56:11PM THAT IS OUR EXPECTATION.
01:56:14PM >> IF THAT HAPPENS PULLING THAT STRING CAN ADJUST WHAT
01:56:18PM HAPPENS IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS BASED ON PERFORMANCE.
01:56:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:56:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TO BRING IT TO A CLOSE, ONE OF THE
01:56:30PM REASONS WE DON'T PUT MONEY INTO IT.
01:56:31PM AND I HAVE BEEN OVER AND OFFER AGAIN FOR FINANCE.
01:56:36PM WE SHOULDN'T BE BONDING FOR ROADS.
01:56:40PM THE BIG BUILDINGS AND THE BIG PARKS.
01:56:43PM I AGREE WE NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY, AND I DON'T THINK WE
01:56:48PM CAN COMPARE THE TWO.
01:56:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS TALKING ABOUT CAPACITY PUMP AND YOU
01:56:53PM ARE ALSO ASKING FOR MORE THINGS FOR ROADS, BUILDINGS.
01:56:57PM I AM 100% WITH YOU ON THAT PETITION SPEND ON STUFF INSTEAD
01:57:03PM OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
01:57:04PM I AM GOING TO PREVIEW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE -- I KNOW WE
01:57:07PM ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ABOUT MAPS AND THE TYPES OF THINGS
01:57:10PM THAT ARE PAVED QUARTERLY.
01:57:12PM I JUST WANT TO YOU KNOW AND UPDATE FOR THAT WHERE I AM
01:57:19PM ASKING TO WORK WITH YOUR TEAM ON THIS SHOWING SECTIONS PAVED
01:57:24PM IN '24 AND '25 AND IN '26.
01:57:28PM OWNED BY THE COUNTY, STATEMENT AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
01:57:32PM AND PREFERABLY BY DISTRICT.
01:57:35PM GET ON YOU ABOUT THAT.
01:57:38PM IN THE MOTIONS FOLDER SITTING AND WAITING TO GET A
01:57:43PM FINANCIAL, FISCAL UPDATE EVERY QUARTER WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE
01:57:48PM HAVE USED.
01:57:48PM WHAT WE HAVE ENCUMBERED AND WHAT WE HAVE LEFT.
01:57:52PM AS WE CLOSE THIS FUNDING CONSTRUCTION FOR -- DISCUSSION FOR
01:58:01PM PAVING.
01:58:01PM TO HAVE A MOTION THAT WILL PROBABLY COME THURSDAY AND I
01:58:04PM WELCOME TALKING TO YOUR TEAM IF YOU WANT TO REACH OUT TO
01:58:06PM KELLY, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
01:58:09PM REALLY EXCITED WHAT WE CAN DO FOR PAVING AND HOW WE CAN
01:58:14PM MONITOR IT.
01:58:14PM EVERY QUARTER FINDING OUT HOW OUR MONEY ARE BEING SPENT AND
01:58:21PM WE WILL FIND OUT OF WHAT HAVE THE AND A GREAT WAY TO ENSURE
01:58:25PM THAT AS QUESTION GO ON MORE PAVING AND MONEY AND SPENT AS
01:58:29PM QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
01:58:30PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
01:58:31PM SECONDARILY, I WANTED TO ASK MR. ROGERO SOMETHING I HAVE
01:58:38PM SEEN AND I THINK I SAW BY MYSELF SIT HERE, BUT I WANT YOUR
01:58:43PM INPUT.
01:58:43PM IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO OUR PRESENTATION AND BRANDON, I AM SET
01:58:51PM AND I APPRECIATE YOU.
01:58:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
01:58:54PM DON'T GET TOO COMFORTABLE.
01:58:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DEBT SERVICES FUNDING.
01:58:59PM YOUR SLIDE 4.
01:59:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAN I HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP,
01:59:06PM PLEASE.
01:59:07PM I'M SORRY, MA'AM, WHAT SLIDE?
01:59:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SLIDE 4.
01:59:12PM DEBT SERVICES FOR THE NET BUDGET FOR ALL FUNDS.
01:59:16PM THE DEBT SERVICES FUND IS $85.9 MILLION.
01:59:21PM YEAH.
01:59:22PM 85.9 MILLION.
01:59:29PM BUT IF YOU GO FORWARD -- IT DOESN'T HAVE IT.
01:59:32PM PAGE 17 IT LOOKS LIKE.
01:59:34PM NONAD VALOREM SERVICES 26.5 MILLION.
01:59:40PM SO 65 VERSUS 26 IS THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEBT
01:59:49PM SERVICES FUNDS FOR JUST GENERAL FUND AND ITS 65.9 MILLION
01:59:59PM FOR ENTERPRISE AND COMBINED TOGETHER?
02:00:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WELL, NOT ENTERPRISE.
02:00:03PM BUT CONFINED TO THE GENERAL FUND.
02:00:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
02:00:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: LET ME GO BACK TO 64.
02:00:12PM WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE?
02:00:13PM MIKE MAY KNOW.
02:00:14PM COME ON UP.
02:00:15PM >>MIKE PERRY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:00:17PM MIKE PERRY, FINANCE.
02:00:20PM THAT INCLUDES THE NONAD VALOREM, AND THE STORMWATER DEBT,
02:00:25PM AND PLUS THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT DEBT.
02:00:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK IT WILL BE HELPFUL WHEN WE LOOKING AT
02:00:33PM THIS DEBT SERVICE, THIS TABLE ON PAGE 17 DOESN'T ADEQUATELY
02:00:39PM SHOW THAT HE AND I WAS CONFUSED.
02:00:42PM A WAY TO HAVE THE BREAKOUT OF THE DEBT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
02:00:45PM THIS ADEQUATELY SHOWS WHERE WE ARE DEBT WISE.
02:00:48PM >> THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THE NONAD VALOREM DEBT, MAN.
02:00:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
02:00:55PM BUT WHAT EACH SAYING IF WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DEBT WE HAVE
02:00:59PM COMING AND THE DEBT WE ARE PAYING OFF THIS YEAR.
02:01:02PM THE DEBTS IS $41 MILLION MORE THAN WHAT IS UP THERE.
02:01:06PM I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
02:01:17PM THE CITY AND THAT DEBT AND THAT DEBT.
02:01:20PM WHAT IS OUR -- BASICALLY OUR DEBT OUTLAY.
02:01:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT A CHART SHOWING TOTAL DEBT.
02:01:28PM INCLUDING PER PRICE?
02:01:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST THIS $65.9 MILLION.
02:01:35PM I WANT TO KNOW --
02:01:41PM >>MICHAEL PERRY: GLAD YOU CLARIFIED.
02:01:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SEE THE 26.9 ON THE PIE CHART AND I AM
02:01:48PM LIKE, WOW, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
02:01:50PM WE GO DOWN TO IT, $26.5 AND IT DOESN'T RECONCILE.
02:01:55PM I WANT US AS COUNCIL AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO SAY $679.9
02:02:00PM MILLION.
02:02:00PM HOW IS THAT GOING AND IS THAT THE DROP.
02:02:03PM IS THE DROP SIMILAR OR NOT.
02:02:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COPY.
02:02:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THAT.
02:02:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
02:02:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A CHART -- ANTICIPATED QUARTER OF
02:02:13PM A BILLION DOLLAR -- I WOULD LIKE THAT TAGGED ON TO THE SAME
02:02:17PM CHART.
02:02:18PM WHAT IS THE ANTICIPATED ISSUE.
02:02:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE LOVELY COLORING THAT YOU ALWAYS DO WILL
02:02:24PM BE VERY HANDY FOR THAT.
02:02:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO LIKE COLOR.
02:02:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AFTER WE TALK OF THIS FINAL CONVERSATION
02:02:33PM ABOUT ISSUING MORE DEBT.
02:02:35PM I WANT US AND THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE COMING.
02:02:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I AM SORRY, IF I CAN JUST CLARIFY.
02:02:42PM AND I APPRECIATE THAT OBSERVATIONS, BECAUSE YOU SAW THAT WAS
02:02:47PM QUITE THE DISCREPANCY AND BEARS EXPLAINING.
02:02:51PM WHEN WE ADD THE ANTICIPATED QUARTER OF A BILLION DEBT, YOU
02:02:56PM WANT TO SEE IT OUT -- OKAY, SO WE WILL COMBINE THAT.
02:02:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST BEFORE -- HONESTLY FOR ME, WANT TO SEE
02:03:08PM IT ANY FURTHER OUT.
02:03:11PM WE ARE IN CHARGE FOR TWO MORE YEARS.
02:03:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COPY.
02:03:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE SEE.
02:03:16PM SINCE WE ARE ALL TALKING OF DEBT IN GENERAL, I THINK THIS IS
02:03:19PM A GREAT CONVERSATION AND WE SHOULD JUST --
02:03:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST HAVE A -- COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA IS
02:03:27PM NEXT AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:03:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG THE SAME TOKEN THAT COUNCILWOMAN
02:03:33PM HURTAK WAS TALKING ABOUT, QUARTERLY REPORT ON THE ROADS AND
02:03:36PM SO FORTH.
02:03:37PM IF I CAN ADD TO THAT ANY COST THAT WAS NOT OPENED, COST OF
02:03:40PM MATERIALS ORIENT, THAT WAY WE CAN FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE
02:03:44PM FIGURE REALLY WAS.
02:03:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COST CHANGES.
02:03:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: APPRECIATE IF YOU ADD THAT TO YOUR
02:03:53PM MOTION.
02:03:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MENTION COST CHANGES.
02:03:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU MENTIONED C.I.T., COMMUNITY
02:03:58PM INVESTMENT TAX.
02:03:59PM AND IT IS CALLED PUBLIC FACILITIES.
02:04:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:04:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: DENNIS, SORRY TO MAKE YOU COME UP AGAIN --
02:04:12PM WE SHOULD HAVE COMFY RECLINERS FOR YOU UP FRONT.
02:04:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T WANT TO CROWD THE PODIUM.
02:04:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING
02:04:23PM ABOUT.
02:04:23PM TOTAL DEBTS -- DO IT IN THREE DIFFERENT BUCKETS OR DIFFERENT
02:04:29PM CHARTS.
02:04:29PM AND ANNE AN ISSUE OF TOTAL.
02:04:31PM I DISAGREE.
02:04:33PM WE SHOULD CARRY IT OUT AND SEE IT FOR THE LEAVE OF THE
02:04:36PM BONDS.
02:04:36PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE YOUR TIME FRAME,
02:04:40PM MA'AM.
02:04:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: PUTTING A BURDEN ON WHOEVER WILL REPLACE US.
02:04:47PM THE $65 MILLION.
02:04:49PM DID YOU SAY THAT DOES OR DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DEBT SERVICE
02:04:53PM ON THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
02:04:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE WHAT?
02:04:56PM I AM SORRY.
02:04:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: ENTERPRISE FUND.
02:04:59PM DEBARDELEBEN MENDENHALL IT DOES BUT ONE.
02:05:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU DID IT IN DIFFERENT COLORS, INCLUDE
02:05:06PM ENTERPRISE FUND.
02:05:07PM WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL DEBT IS.
02:05:10PM WE HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT -- AND YOUR TEAM HAS BEEN HELPING
02:05:15PM US WHAT THE TOTAL DEBT CAPACITY OF THE CITY.
02:05:17PM I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSULTANTS OF BONDING
02:05:21PM AGENCIES.
02:05:21PM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE VERY SOPHISTICATED
02:05:25PM THAT ARE WORRIED WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THE EDGE.
02:05:27PM AND WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT THE DEBT IN TOTAL.
02:05:30PM IT TOOK US PROBABLY BECAUSE WE WEREN'T ASKING THE QUESTIONS
02:05:35PM IN THE RIGHT WAY, BUT TOOK US A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET TO
02:05:39PM THE TOTAL DEBT NUMBER.
02:05:40PM AND THE LAST I SAW, THE TOTAL DEBT WAS $1.65 BILLION WHICH
02:05:45PM INCLUDES EVERYTHING.
02:05:45PM IS THAT THE CORRECT NUMBER?
02:05:48PM IS THAT INCLUDES ENTERPRISE DEBT.
02:05:50PM INCLUDES GENERAL REVENUE DEBT.
02:05:51PM DOES THAT INCLUDE EVERYTHING?
02:05:53PM THE TOTAL DEBT OF EVERYTHING WITHIN THE CITY?
02:05:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T HAVE THAT ON ME RIGHT NOW.
02:05:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROBLEM THE CITY, UNLIKE A BUSINESS,
02:06:02PM DOESN'T AN INCOME STATEMENT BALANCE SHEET.
02:06:07PM IF WE HAD A BALANCE SHEET IT WOULD BE LISTED.
02:06:10PM NEEDS TO BE SIMPLY LISTED SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT.
02:06:13PM BECAUSE REVENUE HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO IT DOESN'T MEAN WE
02:06:16PM DON'T HAVE DEBT.
02:06:17PM AND THE BONDING AND RATING AGENCIES MAY LOOK AT THESE
02:06:20PM SEPARATELY BUT THERE IS THE OVERALL PICTURE.
02:06:27PM AS WE TALKED BEFORE, DID A GOOD JOB OF ADDING TO THE GENERAL
02:06:32PM FUND RESERVE AND TO BE FISCALLY PRUDENT.
02:06:35PM I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY NEW DEBT.
02:06:36PM SOME DEBT THAT WE HAVE PUT IN THE PIPELINE ALREADY FOR FIRE
02:06:40PM STATIONS ANY NEW PROPOSED DEBT I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF IT ALL.
02:06:49PM PEOPLE SAY WE ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE EDGE.
02:06:52PM AND WE SHOULDN'T.
02:06:53PM IN 2028 WHEN WE HIT THAT CLIFF.
02:06:56PM SO WE ARE NOT -- AT THAT POINT SOME FUTURE COUNCIL CAN MAKE
02:06:59PM A DECISION DEBT SERVICE, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK WE
02:07:02PM SHOULD ADD ANY MORE.
02:07:04PM EVEN IF WE CAN DO IT FROM A CASH FLOW BASIS, WE ARE WASTE
02:07:07PM TOO MUCH MONEY IN INTEREST.
02:07:08PM SO EVEN THOUGH WE ARE GETTING OKAY INTEREST RATES, IF
02:07:12PM SOMETHING IS $100 MILLION AND PAYING $80 IN MILLION OR $90
02:07:17PM MILLION, THAT IS TOO MUCH AND WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
02:07:21PM CERTAIN THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS.
02:07:24PM ANYTHING THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS WE SHOULDN'T BORROW MONEY.
02:07:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:07:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:07:31PM HOW ABOUT THIS.
02:07:32PM MR. ROGERO, THE CHARTS WE WERE TALK BEING, IS THERE A WAY TO
02:07:38PM PROVIDE THEM NEXT WEEK WITH THE ENTERPRISE FUND DISCUSSION
02:07:41PM SO THAT TIME A HIS OR HER WHO WILL STICK DISCUSSION AFTER
02:07:45PM ENTERPRISE AND BEFORE THE SOCIAL ACTION ARMS?
02:07:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK MISS COPESKY, $1765.
02:07:55PM DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU DOCUMENT WITH YOU?
02:07:57PM WHEN WE TALK OF DEBT LATER, I THINK IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO
02:07:59PM SEE, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT OUR TOTAL DEBT
02:08:03PM IS.
02:08:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 100%.
02:08:04PM THAT IS WHY I THINK THAT HAVING -- GETTING THOSE NUMBERS,
02:08:08PM GETTING THAT CHART.
02:08:09PM I WOULD AMEND -- I AM ASSUMING.
02:08:12PM I DON'T NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ABOUT THIS.
02:08:14PM THIS IS JUST -- THIS IS WHAT WE CAN HAVE FOR NEXT WEEK.
02:08:16PM AND YET ANOTHER COLOR OR COLORS FOR ENTERPRISE DEBT.
02:08:22PM HOW IS THAT?
02:08:23PM BECAUSE WE CAN KIND OF SEE HOW IT ALL LOOKS.
02:08:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CERTAINLY.
02:08:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, REACH OUT
02:08:31PM TO ME AND I CAN SEND YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW.
02:08:33PM A QUICK SHOT, IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
02:08:35PM I WILL TELL YOU YES AND NO.
02:08:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME REMIND THAT WE CAN HAVE REQUESTS
02:08:42PM BUT NOT MOTION.
02:08:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES AS A MOTION FOR A REQUEST.
02:08:46PM WE WILL JUST MAKE A REQUEST OF THAT.
02:08:47PM AND THAT IS WONDERFUL.
02:08:48PM THANK YOU.
02:08:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WANTS TO SPEAK.
02:08:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FINE TO SAY YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DEBT.
02:08:57PM NAME ME ONE AMERICAN CORPORATION, INCLUDING THE BIG
02:09:00PM AUTOMOBILES THAT DON'T HAVE DEBT.
02:09:01PM IF YOU HAVE A BIG COMPANY, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CARRY
02:09:04PM SOME DEBT, BECAUSE YOUR CASH FLOW DOESN'T EQUAL WHAT YOUR
02:09:08PM EXPENSES ARE ON A DAILY BASIS OR MONTHLY BASIS.
02:09:10PM THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE AT THE CLOSING STATEMENTS AFTER IT IS
02:09:13PM DONE.
02:09:13PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:09:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL CLOSE OUT THE DEBT THING ON THIS.
02:09:19PM THERE HAS TO BE -- YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAD MANY CONVERSATION
02:09:24PM ABOUT DEBT AND BONDING AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT -- I SUPPORT
02:09:27PM BONDING ON GENERATIONAL FUNDING PROJECTS.
02:09:30PM AND THERE IS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR DEBT FOR A CITY, FOR A
02:09:34PM MUNICIPALITY AND TIME INAPPROPRIATE.
02:09:37PM WE HAVE TO HAVE KIND OF A REALLY SEE-THE-LIGHT MOMENT WHEN
02:09:42PM WE LOOK AT THE NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
02:09:47PM THE CITY OF TAMPA VERSUS THE REVENUE.
02:09:49PM QUITE CLEAR WHEN YOU -- WE DON'T EVERYTHING THAT THE PEOPLE
02:09:52PM DEMAND US TO DO WITHOUT AT LEAST SOME STRATEGIC DEBT AT THE
02:09:58PM CURRENT MILLAGE RATE THAT WE HAVE.
02:10:00PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT SLIDE 10 ON YOUR PRESENTATION.
02:10:03PM YOU LOOK AT THE COMPASSION.
02:10:05PM AND THIS IS NOT POLITICALLY POPULAR AND ME SAYING THIS IS
02:10:09PM NOT POLITICALLY POPULAR, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MILLAGE
02:10:12PM RATES FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA VERSUS ORLANDO, ST. PETERSBURG
02:10:16PM AND MIAMI, DARN NEAR ANY -- I GONE AND LOOKED AT THIS.
02:10:20PM YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE SMALL CITIES OUT THERE, THEIR
02:10:25PM MILLAGES ARE SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN OUR.
02:10:27PM OUR REVENUE -- THE PROBLEM THE EXPECTATION OF THE PEOPLE WHO
02:10:32PM LIVE IN CITY OF TAMPA AND THE REVENUE, IT IS OUT OF LINE.
02:10:35PM BECAUSE -- PART OF IT IS BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY DECADES OF
02:10:38PM LACK OF INVESTMENT AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ARE TRYING
02:10:41PM TO CATCH UP.
02:10:41PM IT IS JUST A REALLY DIFFICULT THRESHOLD TO MEET.
02:10:44PM EITHER WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET THOSE EXPECTATIONS
02:10:51PM THROUGH MILLAGE AND THROUGH SOME OTHER TAX REVENUE A NEW ALL
02:10:56PM FOR THAT WILL HELP ALEVE THE PROBLEM WITH INFRASTRUCTURE
02:11:04PM INVESTMENT OR PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SETTLE FOR
02:11:06PM THE LOWER TAX RATE AND DRIVE ON BE ROUTE LEVEL OR GAZA-LEVEL
02:11:11PM ROADS.
02:11:11PM THAT IS KIND OF LIKE WHERE WE ARE AT.
02:11:14PM I KNOW, TOUGH WORD.
02:11:15PM POLITICAL REALITY.
02:11:23PM IF WE HAVE BONDING I MOVE --
02:11:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE THING AND THEN I WILL LEAVE.
02:11:27PM IF IN FACT THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULD RECEIVE ALL THE SALES TAX
02:11:31PM MONEY.
02:11:32PM ALL THE MONEY WE COLLECT ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WE DON'T GET IT
02:11:35PM ALL AT ONE TIME.
02:11:40PM YOU HAVE TO EXTEND THAT.
02:11:41PM AD VALOREM TAX.
02:11:43PM YOU PAY THE TAX IN NOVEMBER OR THE DISCOUNT AND THE END OF
02:11:49PM THE TERM OR DECEMBER OR WHATEVER DON'T SPEND ADDITIONAL TO
02:11:53PM THE CAUSE.
02:11:53PM THE MEANTIME, YOU ARE RUNNING THE CITY USING UP SOME OF THE
02:11:56PM MONEY YOU NEED TO RUN THE CITY IN.
02:11:58PM SO IT IS HIGHLY IMPOSSIBLE.
02:12:00PM THIS IS NOT LOOK A GAS STATION THAT YOU SELL THE GAS AND YOU
02:12:03PM KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU GOT COMING IN AND OUT AND ON A DAILY
02:12:08PM BASIS. OUR CASH FLOW DOES NOT COME IN EVERY DAY, SIMPLY TO
02:12:11PM ONE THE CITY.
02:12:13PM COMES IN 2001 BIG LUMP TO KEEP TRACK OF WHAT WE SPENT TO PAY
02:12:19PM OURSELVES BACK.
02:12:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:12:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE I
02:12:25PM HAVE ANOTHER LARGE SUBJECT I WOULD LIKE TO TACKLE.
02:12:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:12:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE FINAL THING ON DEBT.
02:12:34PM IF WE HAVE A BALANCE SHEET, WE WOULD HAVE THE DIFFERENT DEBT
02:12:38PM SOURCES LISTED AND EVERYBODY WILL BE EASY TO SEE IT.
02:12:42PM GREAT IF WE HAD A SHEET LIKE THAT SO PEOPLE CAN SEE AND THE
02:12:46PM INCOME STATEMENT WILL HAVE OUR INCOME SOURCES.
02:12:48PM THE CONCERN THE PUBLIC HAS NOW, WE THINK IS A TOTAL NUMBER
02:12:54PM ON DEBT.
02:12:56PM WE WILL CONFIRM IT, $1.65 BILLION AND REVENUES ARE $1.95
02:13:02PM BILLION.
02:13:02PM THE RATIO OF DEBT TO REVENUE IS ABOUT 85% SAND ALTHOUGH THE
02:13:10PM FEEDBACK YOU GOT AND FROM YOUR CONSULTANT THAT IS OKAY, THE
02:13:13PM PUBLIC IS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
02:13:16PM THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE -- EVEN THOUGH DIFFERENT REVENUE
02:13:20PM SOURCES BUT TOTAL PERCENTAGE.
02:13:22PM THE INTEREST COSTS -- EVERYTHING COSTS DOUBLE.
02:13:26PM AND IF WE PAY A FEW YEARS, WE CAN PAY WITHOUT IT.
02:13:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
02:13:33PM YOU CAN WALK AWAY.
02:13:34PM BRANDON.
02:13:35PM WE LET YOU GO BEFORE THE TRANSPORTATION WAS FINISHED.
02:13:49PM WE JUST FINISHED PAVING.
02:13:51PM NUMBER ONE IS PAVING AND NUMBER TWO IS.
02:13:55PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: STREETCAR.
02:13:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STREETCAR.
02:13:58PM WE HAVE BEEN BEATING THIS DRUM AND I KNOW HE INCREASED
02:14:02PM THROUGH HART REQUESTS THE FUNDING ARE THE EXISTING STREETCAR
02:14:05PM TO KEEP FARE FREE AND REQUEST FROM HEART.
02:14:09PM WHAT ARE THE EXPENDITURES AND PLANNING FOR FY '26 TO BE A
02:14:14PM CATALYST FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE STREETCAR SYSTEM?
02:14:17PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: YES, WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE
02:14:20PM SCOPE AND FEE NEXT FOR THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT WORK ORDER
02:14:26PM WITH HDR AS THE CONSULTANT.
02:14:29PM THE MEANTIME, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT WE HAVE A SMALLER WORK
02:14:34PM ORDER WITH THEM TO BEGIN LOOKING AT THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT
02:14:38PM AND OPTIONS FOR MAKING MODIFICATIONS TO THAT TO PAY FOR
02:14:43PM FUTURE OPERATION AS WELL AS ONGOING OPERATION.
02:14:46PM THAT IS IN PROGRESS.
02:14:48PM AND THE THIRD ITEM THAT IS ONGOING WITH THAT, WE HAVE
02:14:55PM STANTECH WORKING ON A CULTURAL REASSESSMENT SURVEY.
02:15:00PM DID A GPR SURVEY OF THE AREA IF QUESTION AND WE DO THE TO
02:15:06PM OUR FEDERAL PARTNER WHERE IS THEY SAID DON'T PROCEED TO THE
02:15:09PM NEXT STEP UNTIL WE DO ADDITIONAL PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.
02:15:14PM I THINK THERE WAS A LIT BIT OF BACK AND FORTH OF HOW THE
02:15:19PM APPROPRIATE WAY TO PROCEED WITH SOME OF THE COUNTRY RALE
02:15:22PM RESOURCE QUESTIONS SHOULD PROCEED.
02:15:24PM BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH FTA ON THAT.
02:15:29PM SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK I HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU ALL ABOUT
02:15:33PM TO THIS POINT THAT WITH TURNOVER ON THE FEDERAL TRANSIT
02:15:38PM ADMINISTRATION, WE HAD A DIFFERENT PROJECT COORDINATOR
02:15:40PM ASSIGNED TO THAT.
02:15:41PM SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF -- OF REACQUAINT THAN PERIOD
02:15:45PM WITH THEM THAT -- REACQUAINTANCE PERIOD WITH THEM THAT WE
02:15:51PM HAVE ENGAGED WITH.
02:15:52PM WE ARE CONTINUING WITHOUT THE EXECUTED CONTRACT TO MAKE
02:15:56PM STEPS, TO MAKE PROGRESS.
02:15:58PM WE EXPECT THAT THE LARGER DEVELOPMENT CONTRACTS TO COME
02:16:01PM BEFORE YOU IN COMING DAYS.
02:16:03PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS ON THE SEPTEMBER COUNCIL AGENDA FOR
02:16:08PM NOT, I CAN VERIFY.
02:16:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THEY ARE COMING UP.
02:16:13PM LOOKING IN THE REAR-VIEW MIRROR IF YOU ARE ASKING ME TO
02:16:16PM GRADE WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROGRESS OF THIS IN '24 AND '25.
02:16:20PM I WOULD SAY A D-MINUS.
02:16:24PM A D.
02:16:25PM WHAT CAN WE DO IN FY '26 TO IMPROVE THAT GRADE.
02:16:30PM WHEN YOU ARE STANDING HERE A YEAR FROM NOW.
02:16:33PM AND IN YOUR CAPACITY IN THE DEPARTMENT.
02:16:36PM WHAT CAN YOU DO YOU IN PEA 26 TO IMPROVE THAT GRADE.
02:16:43PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THE KEY GETTING THAT WORK ORDER APPROVED
02:16:46PM AND GETTING THE CONSULTANT STARTED.
02:16:48PM ONCE THAT ROAD BLOCK OR HURDLE IS CLEARED WE WILL BE ABLE
02:16:53PM TOO PROGRESS THAT MUCH MORE -- YOU WILL SEE PROGRESS.
02:16:58PM IT WILL BE MUCH MORE VISIBLE.
02:17:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO IN 12 MONTHS FROM NOW, WITH THAT
02:17:04PM CONTRACT APPROVED AND WE HOLD A BLESS CONFERENCE AND THE
02:17:07PM OUTSIDE WORLD IS LOOKING IN.
02:17:08PM WHAT WILL YOU BE ABLE TO SUPPORT TO THEM AS FAR AS
02:17:13PM SUBSTANTIAL MOVEMENT FORWARD IN THE EX-PLANNING OF THE
02:17:17PM STREETCAR.
02:17:17PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: SOME CHANGES OF THE N EPA INVESTIGATION
02:17:22PM YET TO BE SEEN.
02:17:23PM AT 12 MONTHS THE END OF THAT N EPA EXPLANATION AND
02:17:28PM CLEARANCE.
02:17:28PM THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES ON THAT ARE KIND OF EVOLVING.
02:17:32PM THE EXPECTATION TO THE TURN AROUND FOR NEPA CLEARANCE WILL
02:17:40PM BE QUICKER AND REALISTIC THAT 12 YEARS -- 12 MONTHS FROM NOW
02:17:44PM --
02:17:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KNOCK ON WOOD AFTER YOU SAID THAT.
02:17:47PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: -- THAT WE WILL BE AT THE POINT WHERE WE
02:17:50PM SAY, HEY, WE ARE CLEARING ON THE NEPA.
02:17:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NICE TO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS OUT YOU HAVE
02:18:02PM WASHINGTON.
02:18:02PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
02:18:04PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:18:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TWO QUICK THINGS.
02:18:06PM JUST ADDING TO THAT.
02:18:07PM THE O'ER DAY SPP, OR SOMEBODY ON THEIR BEHALF, TALKED HOW
02:18:13PM THEY ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THE CITY WILL BE
02:18:16PM FARTHER AHEAD IN TRANSPORTATION SO NOT HAVE TO BUILD
02:18:19PM CUMBERLAND GARAGE.
02:18:21PM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM VIK.
02:18:23PM IT WAS PROMISED YEARS AGO AND THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BUILT
02:18:27PM YEARS AGO AND BLAMED ON THE TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THE
02:18:30PM GARAGE WASN'T THERE.
02:18:31PM THE FIRST PART OF THAT WASN'T THAT PLANNED IN THE PAST
02:18:34PM ALREADY?
02:18:34PM AND SECOND, THE STREETCAR HAS RECORD RIDERSHIP.
02:18:38PM WAS THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE PROMISED SPP THAT WE
02:18:43PM DIDN'T DO?
02:18:45PM WHY ARE THEY COMPLAINING THAT WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING?
02:18:49PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I AM NOT SURE WE PROMISED THEM ANYTHING
02:18:52PM THAT WE DIDN'T DO.
02:18:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: LOOKS TO ME A SET-UP FOR ALL FOR
02:18:58PM TRANSPORTATION 3 WHICH HAS BEEN -- ANYWAY, I WON'T COMMENT
02:19:02PM --
02:19:03PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: PART OF THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS
02:19:05PM IS SETTING UP A FINANCIAL PLAN FOR THE LOCAL MATCH AND THE
02:19:10PM OPERATION OF THE EXTENDED STREET CAR.
02:19:12PM SOME OF THESE DETAILS ARE WILL COME OUT IN THAT WHOLE
02:19:15PM PROCESS.
02:19:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM THANKFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT THE
02:19:22PM INVESTORS ON WATER STREET HAVE DONE AND SOME POLITICAL
02:19:25PM AGENDA.
02:19:25PM SECOND THING IT RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION IS THAT THE --
02:19:29PM THAT SIX YEARS AGO, MADE A MOTION, WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED
02:19:33PM FOR A CITY WIDE SIDEWALK PLAN.
02:19:39PM WAIT UNTIL IT COMES OUT OF THE.
02:19:41PM SIDEWALKS ARE NOT BUILT.
02:19:43PM PEOPLE ARE MAD.
02:19:43PM PEOPLE SAYING SIDEWALKS THAT ARE HAZARDS IN THEIR YARDS.
02:19:46PM YOU GET THE E-MAILS LIKE I DO.
02:19:48PM ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY IN THIS BUDGET FOR SIDEWALKS?
02:19:51PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THERE IS SIDEWALK CAPITAL PROJECT.
02:19:54PM I WILL SAY ON THE MOVES PLAN, IT IDENTIFIED WHERE OUR
02:20:01PM SIDEWALK GAPS ARE, 1300 MILES OF SIDEWALK GAPS AN SETS UP A
02:20:06PM PRIORITIZATION, HIGH, MEDIUM AND LOW AND AMONGST THAT,
02:20:10PM DIFFICULT TO PRIORITIZE AMONG THE HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS
02:20:13PM WHICH ONES TO SELECT ON WITH A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
02:20:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU KNOW -- DO YOU WHOA WHAT THE SIDEWALK
02:20:20PM BUDGET IS IN THIS NEW BUDGET?
02:20:23PM AND WHAT IT SHOULD BE?
02:20:25PM SIMILAR TO ROADS WHERE WE ARE SPENDING $41 MILLION SHOULD BE
02:20:29PM SPENDING 50 MILLION TO KEEP UP.
02:20:32PM WHAT IS THE TOTAL TO BE BEHIND IN IF YOU TAKE THE 1300 MILES
02:20:36PM OF ROADS OR SIDEWALKS, WHAT IS THE TOTAL WE ARE BEHIND AND
02:20:39PM HOW MUCH SHOULD WE BE SPENDING PER YEAR JUST TO KEEP UP.
02:20:42PM DO YOU KNOW?
02:20:43PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: A QUESTION HOW QUICKLY SHOULD WE BE
02:20:46PM FILLING IN THOSE 1300 MILES.
02:20:48PM TO FILL THEM IN ALL, WE ARE LOOKING AT A MULTIBILLION DOLLAR
02:20:52PM PROGRAM.
02:20:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: $2 BILLION OR $5 BILLION.
02:20:56PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I WOULD SAY $1.5 BILLION.
02:21:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE WHOLE BUDGET OF THE CITY TO CATCH UP.
02:21:03PM HOW MUCH TO GET -- HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING.
02:21:07PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: AT THIS POINT, WHAT THE LINE-ITEM FOR
02:21:10PM THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR SIDEWALKS FOR FISCAL '26?
02:21:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SIDEWALK, SIDEWALK --
02:21:21PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: WE HAVE A $1.2 MILLION SIDEWALK
02:21:24PM MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION LINE ITEM IN THE CAPITAL
02:21:29PM PROGRAM.
02:21:29PM AND $350,000 CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
02:21:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT LOOKED -- DO I REMEMBER CORRECTLY SO YOU
02:21:39PM CAN JUST NOD SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP.
02:21:42PM YEARS AGO IT WAS $600,000.
02:21:46PM CAN WE DOUBLE WHAT IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO OR DO YOU
02:21:49PM REMEMBER?
02:21:52PM >>MICHAEL PERRY: MIKE PERRY, I DON'T REMEMBER, SIR.
02:21:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TRYING TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT.
02:21:58PM I REMEMBER WHEN THEY WERE SELLING ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION,
02:22:03PM $600,000 TO $6 MILLION A YEAR IF THAT PASSED.
02:22:05PM BUT $600,000 TO $1.2 MILLION, IT SHOWS IT HAS GONE UP.
02:22:10PM JUST NOT ENOUGH.
02:22:12PM WE DON'T HAVE $1.5 BILLION TO GO THROUGH AND FIX ALL OF THEM
02:22:17PM AT THE SAME TIME.
02:22:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:22:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:22:21PM JUST SO YOU KNOW AS WELL FOR SIDEWALKS.
02:22:23PM WHAT I ASKED FOR PAVING IN -- THE FINANCIALS FOR PAVING, I
02:22:31PM AM GOING TO ASK FOR SIDEWALKS INCLUDING THE MAPS.
02:22:33PM PAVING AND SIDEWALKS WILL GO SIMILAR AND I WILL GET WITH
02:22:36PM YOUR OFFICE ON THAT BECAUSE I AGREE, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT.
02:22:38PM AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE $2 MILLION EXTRA PETITION NEWT
02:22:42PM SIDEWALK.
02:22:42PM SO I JUST HAVE TWO QUICK THINGS TO SAY OF TRANSPORTATION AND
02:22:47PM GOING TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK BUT I WILL SAY IT NOW.
02:22:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TALK OF SIDEWALKS --
02:22:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: KEN I GET THIS OUT AND THEN WE WILL TALK
02:22:56PM ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
02:22:57PM RIDERSHIP IS DOING GREAT.
02:22:59PM YOU KNOW WHAT HE IS GREATER, RIDERSHIP ON ROUTE 1, HIGHER
02:23:04PM THAN RIDERSHIP ON THE STREETCAR.
02:23:07PM IT HAS BEEN EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
02:23:10PM I WILL BE EXPECTING FOR THE CITY TO FIND $ 3 MILLION FOR A
02:23:18PM FOR THE PARKING FEE BUDGET.
02:23:20PM DURING OUR FABULOUS MID-YEAR REVIEW, MR. ROGERO SAID OUR
02:23:26PM PROJECT IS FUND BALANCE IS 11.9 MILLION.
02:23:30PM WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY OF THAT 37 WE WILL LOOK WHERE
02:23:36PM WE CAN GET THAT MONEY OUT THE DOOR AND BACKFILL THE PROJECTS
02:23:40PM WITH THE $11.9 MILLION WE ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE WITH OVERAGE.
02:23:45PM THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY OF TRANSPORTATION.
02:23:48PM I WILL LET YOU TALK OF SIDEWALKS.
02:23:50PM BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK OF SALARY AND BENEFITS.
02:23:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE THING OF SIDEWALKS.
02:23:55PM I ASKED MR. BHIDE BECAUSE OF THE IN-HOUSE PAVING CREW TO
02:24:00PM HAVE IN-HOUSE FOR SIDEWALK.
02:24:01PM PUTTING DOWN CONCRETE.
02:24:03PM HAS ANYBODY MOVED ON THAT?
02:24:05PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: WE HAVE NO NOT MADE PROGRESS ON THAT.
02:24:08PM RIGHT NOW THE FOCUS ON BUILDING THE CAPABILITY OF OUR SECOND
02:24:11PM PAVING CREW.
02:24:11PM THAT IS KIND OF ON THE ROAD MAP OF WHAT IS OUR NEXT IN-HOUSE
02:24:16PM CAPABILITY EXPANSION WOULD BE.
02:24:17PM BUT WE HAVE -- LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING THAT
02:24:22PM PAVING CAPABILITY.
02:24:23PM I THINK MAY KNOW WE COMMISSIONED OUR SECOND PAVER ABOUT FOUR
02:24:28PM WEEKS AGO.
02:24:29PM WE ARE STILL IN A SCALE-BUILDING PHASE WITH THAT AND
02:24:35PM CERTAINLY ON THE ROAD MAP FOR THE NEXT POTENTIAL --
02:24:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS GIN GIVEN
02:24:41PM TRANSPORTATION KUDOS OF BEING INNOVATIVE AND SAVING SO MUCH
02:24:45PM MONEY.
02:24:45PM GET SO MUCH WITH SO MUCH LESS.
02:24:48PM AND REPLICATE THAT AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON POINTED OUT THE
02:24:52PM DEFICIT AND THE HOLD ON SIDEWALKS.
02:24:54PM ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO BRIDGE THAT AS BEST AS WE CAN.
02:24:58PM IN '26, IF YOU GUYS STUDY THAT AND BY THE TIME WE GET TO 27,
02:25:03PM PRESENT US FOR IN-HOUSE SIDEWALKS.
02:25:06PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:25:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ON THAT NOTE, THOUGH, IT WOULD BE GREAT MR.
02:25:10PM ROGERO IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD SEE TO PUT ANOTHER
02:25:15PM MILLION OR TWO IN THE SIDEWALK FUND PARKING FEES IN ORDER TO
02:25:19PM GO AHEAD AND GET WHAT YOU NEED TO START UP A SIDEWALK CREW.
02:25:23PM THAT WOULD BE -- MAYBE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, HOW MUCH
02:25:27PM THAT MIGHT COST TO BALL PARK WISE AND TO SEE -- BECAUSE I
02:25:32PM KNOW IT TOOK A YEAR TO START -- GET THE PAVING CREW UP.
02:25:35PM IF YOU CAN SIMPLY GET US STARTED AND GET THE SIDEWALK CREW
02:25:41PM UP AND SOMETHING TO YOU WOULD YOU LOVE TO --
02:25:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:25:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SORRY, I AM OUT --
02:25:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
02:25:52PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THANKFULLY WITH THE SIDEWALK CREW, A LOT
02:25:54PM SPECIALTY PAVEMENT.
02:25:56PM HAD A LONG I WANT TIME.
02:25:58PM NOT TO OVERSIMPLIFY THE PROJECTS THAT CAN BE FAIRLY COMPLEX,
02:26:03PM BUT THE EQUIPMENT INVOLVED CAN BE GENERALLY MORE OFF THE
02:26:07PM SHELF.
02:26:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE DO THE SIMPLE
02:26:11PM STUFF AND CONTRACT OUT.
02:26:12PM BECAUSE A LOT OF STUFF THAT SHOULD BE RELATIVELY
02:26:15PM STRAIGHTFORWARD.
02:26:15PM COUPLE OF 2 X 4s.
02:26:19PM OPINION COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:26:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MOBILITY ISSUES.
02:26:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOBILITY.
02:26:26PM AND WE KIND OF HONED THAT DOWN.
02:26:27PM BRANDON WAS OUR FIRST VICTIM.
02:26:29PM AND WE ACTUALLY HE DID DEBT AND DOING THIS.
02:26:32PM AND I GUESS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WILL KICK OFF SOMETHING ELSE
02:26:36PM AS SOON AS YOU ARE FINISHED.
02:26:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE OTHER TOPICS AND NOT MOBILITY.
02:26:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE HAS ONE COMING UP NOW.
02:26:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE ARE IS MY LAST ONE FOR NOW THAT I
02:26:45PM WANTED TO TALK OF MR. ROGERO AND POSSIBLY HR ABOUT.
02:26:50PM 30 MILLION INCREASE IN SALARY AN BENEFITS.
02:26:52PM THAT IS ASTRONOMICAL.
02:26:54PM AND I THINK THE CONCERN OF COUNCIL AND AT LEAST FROM ME AND
02:27:05PM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
02:27:06PM HOW WERE WE GETTING TO THESE NUMBERS.
02:27:09PM PUBLIC SENDING US E-MAILS THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE OVER A
02:27:14PM CERTAIN THRESHOLD.
02:27:15PM MY ONE REQUEST BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT BUDGET HEARING IS TO
02:27:18PM GET A -- A BASELINE OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF SALARY AND
02:27:28PM BENEFITS.
02:27:28PM I WOULD LIKE TO SPLIT THAT OUT BETWEEN SALARY AND BENEFITS.
02:27:31PM SO IDEALLY HAVING A CHART WHERE BENEFITS ARE A SEPARATE
02:27:35PM COLOR THAN SALARY.
02:27:36PM AND THEN.
02:27:41PM YOU KNOW, I CAN THINK OF ONE CASE WHERE A DEPARTMENT HEAD IS
02:27:45PM MAKING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THE NEXT PERSON WHO
02:27:48PM CAME IN MADE 25% MORE.
02:27:49PM AND THAT JUST, AGAIN, I -- I UNDERSTAND NEXT HAS TO GO ON.
02:27:53PM BUT AT SOME POINT, IT IS -- COUNCIL HAS TO HAVE THE ABILITY
02:28:03PM TO SAY NO MORE THAN THIS TOP AMOUNT.
02:28:06PM IF WE ARE CONTROLLING THE BUDGET BUT DURING THE YEAR, SO
02:28:09PM MANY INCREASES, NOT JUST YOUR STEP INCREASE OR ANNUAL
02:28:13PM INCREASE, BUT FOLKS GOING WAY AND ABOVE THAT.
02:28:16PM WE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME PULLING THIS ALL IN TOGETHER IF WE
02:28:22PM HAVE SUCH A LARGE INCREASE EVERY YEAR.
02:28:23PM FOR ALL THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE.
02:28:25PM I CAN'T THINK OF A TIME WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE SUCH DRAMATIC
02:28:29PM INCREASES IN BOTH SALARY AND BENEFITS.
02:28:32PM ANYBODY ELSE WANT ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT.
02:28:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS
02:28:37PM TOPIC WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
02:28:38PM AND MAYBE THE CHIEF OF STAFF CAN COME UP AND PROVIDE
02:28:43PM CLARITY.
02:28:44PM I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS THAT YOU JUST EXPRESS AND LET ME LET
02:28:48PM HIM TELL YOU WHAT HE TOLD.
02:28:53PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
02:28:56PM OF THE DATA IDEA, I DID DESKTOP ANALYSIS TO SOME OF THE
02:29:01PM QUESTIONS OVER THE WEEKEND AND JUST AGAIN -- A LITTLE
02:29:09PM ALGEBRAIC IF YOU DON'T MIND.
02:29:11PM THE OFFICER SAID BY FY '25, THE LOWEST MILLAGE RATE COMPARED
02:29:16PM TO OUR OTHER CITIES.
02:29:17PM AGAIN, TO PUT A PIN IN THAT FOR A SECOND.
02:29:20PM OUR PERSONNEL TO POPULATION IS ON PAR FOR THE LOWEST OF
02:29:30PM THESE OTHER MAJOR CITIES.
02:29:31PM WHAT I DECIDED TO DO WAS TAKE A LOOK AT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
02:29:35PM ONE I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CELEBRATE SOMETHING -- BUT I
02:29:39PM WILL PUT A PIN IN THAT FOR A SECOND.
02:29:40PM OVERALL CAPITAL BUDGET COMPARED TO THOSE CITIES, WE ARE
02:29:46PM $18.75% BELOW ALL THE OTHER CITIES IN THE STATE WHICH A GOOD
02:29:50PM THING TO CELEBRATE.
02:29:52PM YOU DRILL DOWN INTO THE PERSONNEL ASPECT, I MEAN THAT IS
02:29:56PM $845 PER CAPITAL.
02:29:58PM WE LOW OUR PEER CITY IN THE STATE.
02:30:01PM IF WE ARE JUST ON PAR, BRING IN ANOTHER $345 MILLION.
02:30:05PM SO WE ARE OPERATING LEAN OVERALL.
02:30:08PM LEAN IN MILLAGE AND LEAN IN STAFF.
02:30:13PM TO GET MORE SPECIFIC OF THE PAY INCREASES.
02:30:16PM WALK YOU THROUGH THE METHODOLOGY WITH HIRING, RETENTION AND
02:30:21PM NEGOTIATIONS.
02:30:21PM THE FIRST THING IS HR AND THE WHOLE TEAM DEPEND ON THE
02:30:31PM PORTFOLIO WILL LOOK AT THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMPARE TIFFS.
02:30:34PM THAT IS WHAT I JUST DID.
02:30:36PM WE DO IT BY JOB CLASS.
02:30:39PM AND REPEATING OF CORPORATIONS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO LET
02:30:42PM FOLKS WORK FROM HOME AND HAVE OUR RECRUIT RETENTION
02:30:45PM CHALLENGE, OF COURSE.
02:30:46PM I APOLOGIZE FOR THE -- SEE IF I CAN MOVE THIS DOWN.
02:30:53PM FOCUS ON THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.
02:30:55PM YOU FOCUS THE CIP CHANGE FROM THE SUMMER OF '19 WHICH IS THE
02:30:59PM FIRST BUDGET PLANNING CYCLE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION TO MAY
02:31:02PM WHICH JULY HAVEN'T COME OUT YET, A 30.6% INCREASE IN JUST
02:31:08PM THE COST OF LIVING HERE LOCALLY.
02:31:10PM JOB RETENTION DATA.
02:31:13PM A LOT OF TIME THE PORTFOLIO ALSO WORK WITH HR AGAINST
02:31:17PM ECONOMY FOR THE DIFFERENT JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
02:31:19PM WE HAVE ALSO TAKEN INTO EFFICIENCY MOVING THIS CITY.
02:31:23PM AND I CAN TELL YOU A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT LOOK AT WHY
02:31:26PM CERTAIN JOBS DON'T GET FILLED AND, AGAIN, THOSE KIND OF
02:31:31PM THINGS DON'T WORK INTO IT.
02:31:32PM ALL OF THESE THINGS LEAD TO THE FOUR-POINT ANALYSIS THAT I
02:31:36PM WORK WITH THE UNIONS ON START OFF WITH PAY AND BENEFITS WHAT
02:31:44PM WE FOCUS ON AND BALANCE THAT WITH THE OTHER THREE QUADRANTS.
02:31:48PM SUSTAINED LEVEL OF SERVICE WHICH IS REALLY HOW WE KEEP OUR
02:31:51PM LEVEL OF SERVICE UP TO THE COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT OUR
02:31:54PM BOND RATINGS AND OUR FEES ARE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
02:31:57PM I KNOW WE ARE WORKING ON FEES BUT WE KNOW WHERE OUR BOND
02:32:00PM RATINGS ARE.
02:32:01PM AS YOU HAVE SEEN MR. ROGERO'S PRESENTATION, GENERAL FUND
02:32:06PM BALANCE NEEDS TO BE HEALTHY.
02:32:07PM ALL THE ECOSYSTEMS ARE IN PLACE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE
02:32:11PM ARE DOING.
02:32:11PM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE DESKTOP I DID ON THIS,
02:32:17PM TO TAKE THE ROLE ON WHAT YOU ARE ASKING US TO DO AND KIND OF
02:32:20PM PUT YOUR HAT ON, FULL.
02:32:21PM THE 49th LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
02:32:24PM WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON HERE.
02:32:28PM I RAN OUR CITY AGAINST AN ANALYSIS OF FORTUNE 500 TO 1,000
02:32:37PM COMPANIES AND WHAT WE ARE IN PAR WITH.
02:32:39PM OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM, BANDWIDTH IS $150,000.
02:32:48PM $165,000.
02:32:51PM WE ARE BELOW THE LARGE MUNICIPALITIES.
02:32:55PM SAME EXACT COMPANY OF A SIMILAR SIZE OF OUR CITY SALARIES
02:32:59PM ARE $2 TO $15 MILLION FOR C SUITE.
02:33:03PM WE KNOW WHY WE ARE HERE FOR SERVICES.
02:33:06PM NOT TO GIVE BONUSES AND TO GET WEALTHY.
02:33:09PM OUR SUITE WHICH IS DIRECTORS A LITTLE OVER $15 ,000 TO
02:33:17PM $160,000.
02:33:17PM WHAT WE DID AND I WANT TO CELEBRATE FOR CONTEXT, WHEN THIS
02:33:21PM ADMINISTRATION STARTED, SOMEBODY HAD PAN IDEA.
02:33:24PM I WANT TO CREDIT COUNCIL MEMBER DINGFELDER BACK THEN TO
02:33:29PM GOOSE UP OUR MINIMUM PAGE TO HAVE MORE LIVABLE AGE.
02:33:34PM AT THE TIME IT WAS $10.
02:33:36PM FOR THE RECORD, THE STATE WAS $8.46.
02:33:40PM RAN THE ANALYSIS, BROUGHT YOU IT TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL
02:33:44PM AND TO CO-CELEBRATE MOVED TO 15 AN HOUR.
02:33:47PM THOSE EMPLOYEES NOW BASED ON THEIR MERIT USING AN AVERAGE
02:33:55PM NOT THE HIGHEST OR LOWEST AND THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS OVER THE
02:33:58PM LAST SIX YEARS BROUGHT THEM TODAY 15 AN HOUR TO $23.18 AN
02:34:03PM HOUR.
02:34:03PM HERE IS THE BEAUTY OF THAT.
02:34:05PM NOW LIVABLE WAGE.
02:34:06PM HPC-25-0000025 LIVABLE WAGE FOLKS TOGETHER HOUSE HOLD,
02:34:11PM ROOMMATES, THEY ARE COMFORTABLY LIVING BETWEEN $92,000 AND
02:34:15PM $150,000 THAT SAYS YOU CAN LIVE COMFORTABLY AND OWN A HOME.
02:34:20PM WHICH IS SOMETHING THE CITY CAN BE PROUD YOU HAVE.
02:34:22PM WE BREAK DOWN THE LOWEST PERSONNEL BY NUMBERS.
02:34:25PM THE LOWEST MILLAGE BY, AGAIN, CITY.
02:34:28PM THE LOWEST PER CAPITAL BUDGET ACROSS THE SIX-YEAR TREND OF
02:34:32PM ALL THE OTHER MAJOR CITIES.
02:34:33PM WE ARE HAPPY TO BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU ABOUT WHAT THE
02:34:35PM BASELINE WAS TOP SHOW YOU HOW THAT GROWS.
02:34:43PM WHEN AN EMPLOYEE COMES IN, THEY HAVE A MINIMUM SALARY.
02:34:48PM A CAP ON EVERY POSITION WHETHER NEGOTIATING INSIDE THE
02:34:53PM BARGAINING OR THE NONBARGAINING UNIT.
02:34:55PM THERE IS A CAP.
02:34:56PM THAT CAP CAN ONLY MOVE IF THERE IS A WAGE INCREASE ON BOARD
02:35:00PM BASED ON NEGOTIATIONS.
02:35:01PM EVERYBODY OUTSIDE OF THE BARGAINING UNIT GETS A 3% COMPARED
02:35:06PM TO COST OF LIVING AND SIX-YEAR INSTEAD OF A TEN-YEAR TO GET
02:35:12PM TO THAT 30% CIP INCREASE.
02:35:15PM YOU LOOK THE BARGAINING SIDE THE STEP PLAN AND THE MERIT
02:35:21PM INCREASE TENDS TO BE OUR RETENTION.
02:35:24PM AND OUR COST OF LIVING IS OUR ECONOMIC BALANCE IN FACT.
02:35:27PM WHEN AN EMPLOYEE COMES IN, THEY GO RIGHT TO THE MINIMUM.
02:35:30PM THEIR RESUME, DEPEND GOING THEY ARE OUTSIDE BARGAINING CAN
02:35:34PM GO UP TO THE MIDPOINT NEXT WISE.
02:35:37PM IF IT GOES BEYOND THE MIDPOINT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE IS
02:35:41PM A WHOLE TASK FORCE THAT COMES TOGETHER, PORTFOLIO, HR, MY
02:35:48PM OFFICE, AND WE AGREE TO THAT.
02:35:51PM ANYTHING ABOVE THE MIDPOINT IS LOOKED AT EACH CASE, ONE AT A
02:35:55PM TIME.
02:35:55PM THE KIND THE M.O. OF WAY WE OPERATED OVER THE LAST SIX
02:36:00PM YEARS.
02:36:00PM I WILL TELL YOU THAT WORK ON THE INSURANCE SIDE EVER HOUSE
02:36:09PM WITH THE BENEFITS AND LET CHIEF ROGERO TALK ABOUT THAT A
02:36:14PM BIT.
02:36:14PM IT IS COMPOUNDING FACTORS.
02:36:16PM I KNOW THE FIRST CART A 3, 3, 3.5 AND A FOR THE ATU AND 3,
02:36:25PM 3, 5 FOR THE POLICE.
02:36:27PM AND ALL ARE IN PARITY AND NEGOTIATING THE THIRD ONE.
02:36:32PM EVERY TIME WE NEGOTIATE COMPARE FORS ARE GIVEN TRANSPARENCY
02:36:37PM TO THE.
02:36:38PM AND WE TALK OF OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE VYING FOR OUR
02:36:41PM POSITIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE BADGE WEARING COMMUNITY.
02:36:44PM THEY ARE TRYING TO OUTDO US FOR OUR FRONT LINE PAY AND
02:36:47PM BONUSES.
02:36:47PM REALLY A COMPETITIVE SITUATION OUT THERE.
02:36:50PM AND WE TRY TO KEEP A 5% ATTRITION RATE ACROSS THE BOARD
02:36:55PM BECAUSE WHEN THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL APPROVE THE BUDGET, WE
02:36:58PM WANT TO DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT IS ACTIONABLE ALL THE
02:37:02PM WAY DOWN TO THE LAST PENNY OF WHAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US.
02:37:06PM WE NEED THE PERSONNEL TO DO THAT.
02:37:08PM THAT IS KIND OF THE BIG SPIRIT OF THAT.
02:37:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:37:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:37:13PM OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL STAFF, BUT NOT BE OKAY FOR ME
02:37:17PM NOT TO MENTION IT, BECAUSE IT IS THE LARGEST INCREASE.
02:37:20PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE CONTINUOUSLY ASK ABOUT.
02:37:23PM THAT IS WHY I THINK IT WILL BE REALLY HAND TOW HAVE THE
02:37:26PM FIVE-YEAR PERSPECTIVE.
02:37:27PM THE REASON I WANT WANTED TO PUT FIVE YEARS IN IT, TO SEE
02:37:31PM FROM 2019 AND GOING FORWARD AND TO KIND OF HAVE THAT
02:37:34PM DISCUSSION ABOUT THE INCREASES.
02:37:35PM I DO REMEMBER I WAS HERE FOR THE 9% INCREASE AND 475 -- 4.5
02:37:44PM AND 4.5.
02:37:45PM I KNOW INSURANCE AND OTHER BENEFITS GO INTO THAT
02:37:48PM CONVERSATION WHICH IS WHY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT AT OUR
02:37:50PM NEXT BUDGET MEETING, BUT REALLY JUST TO GET THAT CHART, TO
02:37:54PM SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT WE ARE DOING.
02:37:55PM I APPRECIATE THE LEVEL SETTING THAT YOU JUST DID AND THE
02:37:59PM UNDERSTANDING.
02:37:59PM BUT, AGAIN, I STILL THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC
02:38:03PM REALLY WANTS TO HEAR MORE ABOUT.
02:38:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU -- ONE THING I DIDN'T THINK YOU
02:38:08PM HIT HARD ENOUGH BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
02:38:10PM THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE BARGAINING UNIT, THE PAY BANS.
02:38:13PM THAT YOU CAN -- CAN YOU EXPLAIN.
02:38:17PM CAN PEOPLE MOVE OUT OF THE PAY BAND.
02:38:19PM WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PAY BANDS?
02:38:21PM ARE I'M CAPPED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
02:38:25PM >>JOHN BENNETT: AGAIN, GREAT QUESTION.
02:38:27PM WHETHER YOU ARE BARGAINING BY IS 3800 OF OUR 5,000 EMPLOYEES
02:38:32PM AND THE BALANCE WHICH LITTLE OVER 1200.
02:38:36PM HAS AS MINIMUM, MIDPOINT AND CAP AND YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN
02:38:42PM THAT.
02:38:42PM FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY I WAS IN THE BARGAINING UNIT AND HERE
02:38:46PM TEN YEARS AND GOT AN OUTSTANDING EVALUATION AND MY -- MY
02:38:50PM INCREASE FOR HAVING AN OUTSTANDING EVALUATION AS 4%.
02:38:53PM BUT I WAS ALREADY AT MY CAP, I WOULD GET ZERO THAT YEAR.
02:38:57PM EVERY PAY BAND HAS A CAP.
02:39:00PM EVERY CLASSIFICATION HAS A CAP.
02:39:01PM BARGAINING OR NONBARGAINING.
02:39:04PM OPINION THE ONLY WAY THAT MOVES IS THE NEXT THROUGH IT THE
02:39:08PM BARGAINING UNIT AND THE CAMPS MOVE UP.
02:39:11PM HOW IT MOVES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND OFF LITTLE BIT OF ROOM
02:39:14PM TO GROW.
02:39:14PM BUT A LOT OF FOLK -- I KNOW ONE YEAR THAT THE -- THAT THE
02:39:17PM MANAGEMENT TEAM TOOK A ZERO PERCENT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
02:39:23PM ELSE GOT WHAT THEY NEEDED FOR THE ECONOMY.
02:39:26PM EITHER WAY IT STAYS WITHIN THE BAND OF THE MINIMUM, MIDPOINT
02:39:30PM AND CAP SO IT CAN'T EXCEED THAT WITHOUT COUNCIL MOVING THE
02:39:35PM BUDGET.
02:39:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOING FOR SENIOR MANAGEMENT AS WELL.
02:39:41PM >>JOHN BENNETT: CORRECT.
02:39:42PM EVERYBODY HAS A FEELING.
02:39:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HIT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE INQUIRY.
02:39:46PM >>JOHN BENNETT: UNDERSTOOD.
02:39:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:39:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE SAY MALL IN SIS OF PAY INCREASES.
02:39:54PM I KNOW IT IS A CONCERN OF MINE AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY.
02:39:56PM ANOTHER THING TO BE FAIR, IF YOU TAKE.
02:40:01PM THERE WILL AN INCREASE IN EMPLOYEES AND GO BACK TO THE GREAT
02:40:06PM RECESSION AND GO FORWARD, YOU CAN DO AN ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS
02:40:12PM THAT THE PAY INCREASES OVER TIME DID NOT KEEP UP WITH
02:40:14PM INFLATION TALKING OF POLICE AND FIRE, 18% AND PEOPLE GOT
02:40:23PM UPSET.
02:40:23PM YOU LOOK AT IT WITH THE GREAT RECESSION, IT WOULD BE WAY
02:40:28PM BEHIND IF WE DID THE REGULAR INFLATION ADJUSTMENT.
02:40:30PM THIS IS WAY TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT.
02:40:33PM THE ANOTHER THING AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS AT ANOTHER
02:40:35PM TIME.
02:40:35PM THE -- -- IF -- ONLY POWER THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS OVER ANY OF
02:40:46PM THE MAYOR'S PEOPLE IS THE BUDGET.
02:40:51PM AND SITUATION WHERE IS I COMPLAINED TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:40:53PM I COMPLAINED TO THE MAYOR.
02:40:54PM I COMPLAINED TO CHIEF OF STAFF OF PERCEIVED ILLEGAL OR
02:40:58PM UNETHICAL BY THE MAYOR'S STAFF, NOT ALL OF THEM, ONLY A FEW.
02:41:04PM IN PARTICULAR IF PEOPLE WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL AND CITY
02:41:07PM COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY SHOULD BE FIRED.
02:41:09PM AS I TOLD THE MAYOR IF MY AIDE GOT INVOLVED OF POLITICAL
02:41:15PM ISSUES AGAINST THE MAYOR I WOULD FIRE HER AROUND MAYOR
02:41:19PM SHOULD DO THE SAME THING SO THE MAYOR SHOULD DO THE SAME
02:41:23PM THING PLAYING POLITICS ON CITY TIME.
02:41:25PM I HAVE GIVEN EVIDENCE TO THE MAYOR, CHIEF OF STAFF.
02:41:28PM NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
02:41:30PM THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID THE ONLY THING I CAN DO IS HIRE A
02:41:36PM LAWYER AND SUIT CITY WHICH I DON'T THINK IS AT RIGHT
02:41:39PM DECISION.
02:41:39PM SUBSEQUENT -- I WANT TO CUT THE BUDGET OF THE MAYOR'S STAFF.
02:41:43PM CRAZY THAT WE ARE PAYING PEOPLE ABOVE $200,000 AND $150,000
02:41:48PM WHEN THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE SUFFERING ESPECIALLY
02:41:50PM WHEN THEY ARE PLAYING POLITICS AT TAXPAYERS' EXPENSE.
02:41:53PM THANK YOU.
02:41:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
02:41:55PM IS THAT IT ON --
02:42:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS WAITING FOR THE NEXT TOPIC.
02:42:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM.
02:42:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE AT A TIME.
02:42:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE PIECE AT A TIME.
02:42:14PM COUPLE OF THINGS.
02:42:15PM SOME MAY BE QUESTIONS.
02:42:16PM SOME ARE NOT.
02:42:17PM ONE IS -- I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON WILL CHEER THIS ON THAT
02:42:26PM WE ARE IN THE CRA ARE DOING DISABILITY EQUIPMENT IN THE CRA
02:42:32PM PARKS AND WE SHOULD PUT INVESTMENTS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IN
02:42:35PM SOUTH TAMPA AND NORTH AND NEW TAMPA, TARGETED OF $2 MILLION
02:42:42PM TO $ MILLION.
02:42:43PM OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T A MOTION AT THIS TIME --
02:42:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL FOCUS ON PARKS AND REC RIGHT NOW
02:42:49PM THEN.
02:42:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO I HAVE ANY OTHER PARKS?
02:42:52PM DO I?
02:42:54PM NOT REALLY.
02:42:54PM OKAY.
02:42:55PM THAT IS FINE.
02:42:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HIT PARKS AND REC.
02:43:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HIT PARKS INADVERTENTLY.
02:43:06PM SOMETHING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, OUR DISABILITIES ACCESS TO
02:43:09PM OUR PARKS AND SOMETHING I KNOW WE ARE ALL IN SUPPORT OF, BUT
02:43:12PM WHEN YOU HAVE PLACES OUTSIDE OF THE CRA THAT DON'T BENEFIT
02:43:20PM DIRECTLY FROM THE CRA, THEY DON'T GET THAT.
02:43:23PM NEW TAMPA HAS THE ALL ABILITIES WORK AND EVERY PARK SHOULD
02:43:27PM HAVE DISABILITY -- I WANT TO BE CLEAR, DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE
02:43:31PM EQUIPMENT.
02:43:32PM ONE EQUIPMENT, PIECE OF WHEELCHAIR EQUIPMENT TO USE FOR OUR
02:43:39PM GOOD FRIENDS OF SOUTH TAMPA AND NORTH TAMPA, I THINK THAT
02:43:43PM WOULD BE GOOD TO DO.
02:43:44PM AGAIN, WHATEVER THE NUMBER COULD BE, COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND
02:43:48PM DOLLARS TOO MAKE THOSE TARGETED INVESTMENTS THIS YEAR WILL
02:43:52PM REALLY, REALLY GO A LONG WAY.
02:43:53PM I AM LOOKING TO SEE ANYTHING OUT HERE, PARK-WISE DISABILITY
02:44:05PM PROGRAM IS NOT THAT CLENDENIN CONTACT LENSES YOU WANT THE
02:44:08PM DIRECTOR TO COME --
02:44:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T NEED ANYBODY TO COME UP FOR THAT.
02:44:12PM I KNOW PEOPLE WANT TO TALK OF PARKS, BUT FOR CONSISTENCY BUT
02:44:17PM TO QUOTE SYLVESTER STALLONE, I WILL BE BACK -- THAT IS A
02:44:26PM JOKE.
02:44:26PM SORRY.
02:44:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PARKS AND REC.
02:44:30PM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
02:44:31PM IN THE E-MAIL I SENT.
02:44:32PM WILL THIS FALL UNDER THE PARKS AND REC WITH THE BOARDWALK?
02:44:37PM >>JOHN BENNETT: POOL AND THE BOARDWALK WALK.
02:44:39PM MAY BE A RELATIONSHIP WITH MOBILITY OF THE BOARDWALK.
02:44:44PM I WILL HAVE TO TALK TO BRANDON.
02:44:47PM WHAT WAS GOING TO EARN YOU EARLIER WHEN YOU SAID SULPHUR
02:44:52PM SPRINGS.
02:44:52PM SOMETHING FOR THURSDAY TO DO EMERGENCY WORK ON THE POOL.
02:44:55PM THAT WILL BE ON THE BUDGET THERE.
02:44:57PM ALSO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MONEY FOR THE POOL IN THE BUDGET
02:45:01PM BEYOND THAT.
02:45:01PM SO RIGHT NOW THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE SURGICAL LOOK OF
02:45:09PM COURSE, IF YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS.
02:45:13PM THE BOARDWALK WAS TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING IN OUR STAFF
02:45:17PM MEETING AND MONEY IN THAT FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS PARK AREA.
02:45:21PM SO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE GET ATTENTION.
02:45:23PM AGAIN FROM SOMEBODY WHO WORKED SULPHUR SPRINGS FOR AMERICAN,
02:45:25PM MANY YEARS, THAT POOL SPECIFIC LEAVE AND THE NAVIGATION OF
02:45:29PM WALKABILITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
02:45:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK SULPHUR SPRINGS SAN IMPORTANT
02:45:34PM ENOUGH ISSUER TO FOCUS ON SULPHUR SPRINGS RIGHT NOW AND MOVE
02:45:36PM ON TO BROADER PARKS AND REC.
02:45:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: CONTINUE PARKS.
02:45:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NAIL IT IN TO SULPHUR SPRINGS AND THE
02:45:45PM BOARDWALK AND THE POOL.
02:45:47PM THIS IS IMPORTANT.
02:45:48PM THE COMMUNITY IS LIKING TO THIS.
02:45:50PM IT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE.
02:45:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS MORE THAN I
02:45:55PM EXPECTED.
02:45:55PM WE LOOK FORWARD TO THURSDAY AND THE WORK YOU ARE DOING
02:45:58PM BEHIND THE SCENES.
02:45:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE ON THE SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL?
02:46:01PM I KNOW LYNN HAS SOMETHING.
02:46:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BE THAT BUT ALSO WITH
02:46:05PM PARKS.
02:46:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO AHEAD WITH POOL.
02:46:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ON SULPHUR SPRINGS.
02:46:09PM ASK CHARLIE -- PARKS HAVE PROBABLY BEEN OUT WITH THEM, BUT I
02:46:14PM THINK -- I THINK SOMEBODY FROM PARKS SHOULD GO OUT WITH HIM
02:46:23PM AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
02:46:24PM THIS BOARDWALK IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE.
02:46:28PM HE AND I WALKED ON IT.
02:46:30PM WE SHOULDN'T HAVE -- IT IS A LIABILITY -- YOU JUST GO AROUND
02:46:34PM THE TREE.
02:46:35PM BUT IF WE JUST REDO THE BOARDWALK AND DON'T DO ANY OF THE
02:46:39PM OTHER BOARDWALK AROUND IT?
02:46:42PM IT IS GOING TO LOOK OUT OF PLACE AND SOMETHING VERY NICE
02:46:45PM WITH EVERYTHING ELSE NOT IN A GREAT CONDITION.
02:46:47PM AND I AGREE WITH FIXING THE POOL.
02:46:55PM $1.4 MILLION -- 1.8 --
02:47:00PM >>JOHN BENNETT: AGAIN, I CAN BRING SAL OR OCEA UP TOP.
02:47:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: GLAD YOU ARE MOVING FORWARD.
02:47:07PM HAPPY TO SEE IT ON THE AGENDA AND AT LEAST IT IS MOVING
02:47:10PM FORWARD.
02:47:11PM >>JOHN BENNETT: BALANCING EFFECT OF THE SEAWALL, THE POOL
02:47:14PM AND HOW WE USE OUR WATER SYSTEMS.
02:47:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE UPDATE THAT PARK AND SEE ALL OF THAT.
02:47:24PM REAL ESTATE VALUE AND THE INVESTMENT WILL GO UP
02:47:27PM EXPONENTIALLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO SEE THAT PARK.
02:47:30PM AN BEAUTIFUL LOAF OCCASION ACROSS THE RIVER AND VERY
02:47:33PM EXPENSIVE HOUSES.
02:47:34PM ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS FIX UP THAT HOUSE.
02:47:36PM AND IF IT IS $20 MILLION, WE WILL GET MORE WITH AD VALOREM
02:47:41PM TAXES IN THE INVESTMENTS THAT WILL HAPPENED IN THAT
02:47:43PM COMMUNITY.
02:47:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:47:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:47:47PM ALONG WITH PARKS, I HAD CONVERSATION WITH MR. DE LA ROSA, A
02:47:52PM NEARBY NEIGHBOR THERE, AND HE DOES A LOT OF GREAT WORK.
02:47:54PM I MET WITH HIM AND LOOKING AT TWO TO TWO AND A HALF HOURS OF
02:47:59PM PARK AT HENRY AND OLA.
02:48:01PM MINOR THINGS TO BE DONE.
02:48:03PM TALKED TO THE CITY'S RECREATION CENTER IN CHARGE OF PARKS
02:48:08PM AND RECREATION AND I DON'T HAVE THAT CONTACT PERSON.
02:48:09PM IT IS DIVIDED BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE.
02:48:11PM I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEBODY -- BECAUSE WE HAD MADE SOME
02:48:16PM ARRANGEMENTS.
02:48:17PM AND AT HENRY AND OLA, SMALL THINGS.
02:48:21PM ONE IS THE --
02:48:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE PUT A PIN IN THAT ONE.
02:48:26PM WE ARE TALKING OF SULPHUR SPRINGS --
02:48:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT ONE AND --
02:48:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALK FIRST.
02:48:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: $1.8 MILLION ON THURSDAY THAT IS GOING TOWARD
02:48:40PM THE SEAWALL.
02:48:41PM I JUST ASK A REALLY SIMPLE QUESTION, IS THE $3.6 MILLION
02:48:46PM HERE FOR POTENTIAL DEBT ISSUANCE A SEPARATE FROM THE $1.8
02:48:56PM MILLION ON THURSDAY.
02:48:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT CAN BE.
02:48:59PM WE DON'T KNOW WITH THE STUDIES.
02:49:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT $3.6 I HAVE TO TALL.
02:49:04PM SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT, WHAT, $5 MILLION OR $6 MILLION OF --
02:49:11PM $5 MILLION.
02:49:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: STILL MAY.
02:49:13PM BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
02:49:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:49:15PM I THINK MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.
02:49:18PM CHITTENDEN MENDENHALL I APOLOGIZE.
02:49:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER ARE CARLSON.
02:49:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYBODY HERE FROM PARKS.
02:49:25PM >> OCEA WAS HERE.
02:49:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST AN IDEA.
02:49:29PM THE LAND ADJACENT TO SULPHUR SPRINGS SPARK, WE OUGHT TO YOU
02:49:35PM HAVE SOMEBODY MONITOR IT AND ANY OF THE LAND THAT BECOMES
02:49:38PM AVAILABLE, WE SHOULD TRY TO ACQUIRE IT.
02:49:41PM THAT LAND IS VERY VALUABLE AND COULD ADD AN ALL KIND OF
02:49:45PM ACTIVITY CENTER.
02:49:47PM THAT BRINGS UP CHIEF OF STAFF -- CHIEF BENNETT, CAN YOU JUST
02:49:51PM -- I'M NOT ASKING TO YOU RESPOND BUT LISTEN TO THIS IDEA.
02:49:54PM A CRAZY IDEA.
02:49:56PM A WELLNESS CENTER AROUND A BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE PARK.
02:49:58PM IT SHOULD BE AN ACTIVITY CENTER.
02:50:01PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT WHATEVER -- LOOKS LIKE A
02:50:04PM BIG INVESTMENT BY THE CITY, BUT WHATEVER POINTS THAT WE CAN
02:50:07PM MOVE THE WELLNESS CENTER, THAT SPACE WILL BE GREAT AS A
02:50:17PM ACTIVITY CENTER.
02:50:18PM WHATEVER INVESTMENT WE HAVE MAKE, AN INTEGRATED PARK BECAUSE
02:50:21PM SO MUCH POTENTIAL THERE.
02:50:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE POOL.
02:50:27PM IS -- I KNOW THIS IS A THURSDAY DISCUSSION, BUT IN
02:50:30PM ANTICIPATING OF FUTURE FINANCING NEEDS AND WHAT WE HAVE TO
02:50:33PM VOTE ON FOR THE BUDGET FOR '26.
02:50:35PM I AM JUST -- I AM KIND OF GRAVELY CONCERNED THE $1.8 MILLION
02:50:42PM EXPENDITURE.
02:50:42PM POSSIBLE TO SPEND $178 MILLION IN A STUDY TO FIND OUT THAT
02:50:47PM WE CAN'T BUILD A POOL THERE WILL.
02:50:50PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
02:50:56PM PART OF THE $1.8 MILLION TO SEE WHAT IS BAD.
02:51:00PM AND WHAT REPAIRS NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE WE GO INTO THE
02:51:03PM CONSTRUCTION.
02:51:04PM THE FIRST -- A PORTION OF THE $1.8 MILLION IN FACT IS TO DO
02:51:10PM THE ASSESSMENT.
02:51:11PM WE DON'T ANTICIPATE SPENDING THE WHOLE 1.8 TO DETERMINE --
02:51:16PM TO SEE IF HE IT IS BAD AND PART OF IT IS USED TO SEE WHAT
02:51:19PM NEEDS TO BE ACTUALLY DONE.
02:51:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL CIRCLE BACK AROUND.
02:51:25PM >>OCEA WYNN: THE SEAWALL REPAIR.
02:51:33PM AND PART OF THAT IN THE ASSESSMENT.
02:51:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL HAVE SEAWALL REPAIR.
02:51:38PM SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY FOR A MAYBE WHEN WE MIGHT BE
02:51:41PM PROJECTING MOVING THAT POOL SOMEWHERE TO THE LEFT OR THE
02:51:44PM RIGHT OR ADJACENT PROPERTY AND ROGER, A BRAND-NEW FACILITY.
02:51:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WHAT I WANT TO SAY.
02:51:53PM THE 1.8 MILLION IS FOR A SEAWALL -- MAINLY FOR A SEA CALL
02:52:02PM AND WHAT OTHER THINGS NEED TO BE DONE.
02:52:05PM BUT THE SEAWALL HAS TO BE DONE REGARDLESS.
02:52:09PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES.
02:52:10PM MIRANDA HENRY AND OLA.
02:52:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DONE FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS?
02:52:18PM RIGHT NOW.
02:52:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM READY RIGHT NOW TO FINISH.
02:52:22PM TWO PARKS, HENRY AND OLA.
02:52:25PM I HAD SOME CONTACT WITH THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS AND
02:52:29PM HE WAS ANXIOUS TO GO.
02:52:31PM AND I HAVEN'T TALK TO MR. DE LA ROSA SINCE AND THE GENTLEMAN
02:52:36PM THAT LEFT, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT.
02:52:39PM ENTRY WAY AND AT DRIVEWAY FROM THE ROAD AND THERE ARE
02:52:47PM TWO-DEEP SWALES, LOOK LIKE ON THE SIDE AND WALK IN WITHOUT
02:52:50PM NO FENCING OR SOMETHING -- SOME KID COULD FALL OFF AND GET
02:52:55PM INJURED THREE OR FOUR FEET DEEP ON BOTH SIDES.
02:52:57PM THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT.
02:52:59PM IN THE DOG PARK PUTTING THE SHADE IN THE AREA WHERE THE
02:53:02PM PEOPLE PUT THE DOGS.
02:53:04PM AND THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO HIDE AND ANOTHER PUN ONE.
02:53:07PM OTHER ONE AND THE THIRD MOST IMPORTANT ONE, THE EARN TREE
02:53:10PM INTO THE PARK BECAUSE AN ENTRY GATE WITH NO SYSTEM.
02:53:14PM AND SOMEBODY COULD BE PUT IT AND THE KID CAN'T LIFT IT UP
02:53:17PM AND WALK OUT.
02:53:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL OLA?
02:53:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HENRY AND OLA.
02:53:24PM CASCADE MAN IN PARK.
02:53:26PM HISTORICAL VALUE CUE.
02:53:29PM TWO HALL OF FAMER THAT PLAYED BASEBALL.
02:53:31PM AL LOPEZ AND TONY LA RUSSA.
02:53:34PM THAT PARK HAS BEEN NEGLECTED.
02:53:41PM AND NOW THAT AREA IN YBOR CITY IS COME BACK TO LIFE WITH A
02:53:46PM LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND WE OUGHT TO START LOOK AT IT.
02:53:49PM NOT DOING IT RIGHT NOW BUT AN ASSESSMENT TO PUNT THE PARK
02:53:53PM THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY COUNTY OLD GRANDSTAND AND THE
02:54:00PM DIAMOND AND TWO PEEWEE AND ONE ON THE OTHER END HOW IT WAS
02:54:03PM FOR SOFT BALL, GIRLS SOFT BALL, MEN'S SOFT SOFTBALL,
02:54:09PM BASEBALL, AROUND CASCADIAN IS DOING WELL.
02:54:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN REDDICK, WASN'T HE RESPONSIBLE
02:54:18PM FOR THE POOL?
02:54:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ALL WERE, BUT HE WAS THE ONE LEADING
02:54:22PM THE CHARGE, YES.
02:54:23PM I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT ALIVE AND GOING UNTIL WE COME UP
02:54:26PM WITH SOME UNDERSTAND WHAT TOCK DO WITH CASCADIAN.
02:54:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
02:54:32PM DID YOU WATCH ALL THOSE NOTES.
02:54:34PM >>OCEA WYNN: DID NOT CATCH THE NAME OF THE PARK YOU WERE
02:54:37PM REFERENCING --
02:54:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HENRY AND OLA.
02:54:42PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES.
02:54:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:54:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: TALKING OF ALL PARKS?
02:54:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVED ON TO ALL PARKS.
02:54:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: SULPHUR SPRINGS, POCKET PARKS ALONG THE
02:54:53PM RIVER AND PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE TWO I WALKED AROUND SOME OF
02:55:02PM THEM.
02:55:06PM AND SOMEBODY ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER BUT WHOLE THREADS ON
02:55:13PM SOCIAL MEDIA PERFORMS THAT PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA ARE
02:55:16PM COMPLAINING OF THE PARKS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
02:55:18PM AND THERE IS A LIMIT OF HOW MUCH WE CAN SAYS THERE IN THE
02:55:23PM BUDGET.
02:55:23PM WE KNOW ANECDOTALLY PEOPLE WHO MOVE FROM OTHER CITIES CAME
02:55:27PM DOWN AND THOUGHT THEY WERE SAVING ON TAXES AND REALIZE THE
02:55:31PM PARKS, FALLING AWARD, AND THE STREETS WERE FALLING AWARD AND
02:55:36PM SOME OF THEM LEFT BECAUSE THEIR COMPANIES WOULDN'T LET THEM
02:55:38PM WORK REMOTELY, BUT OTHERS LEFT BAR BECAUSE THE REASON THE
02:55:41PM TAXES LOW BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR ANYTHING.
02:55:45PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE -- THAT WE NOT -- THAT WE ARE
02:55:49PM NOT SPENDING MONEY ON PROJECTS THAT ARE NICE TO HAVE WE GOT
02:55:58PM TO FIX THE BASICS.
02:56:01PM PARKS, ROAD.
02:56:02PM IF EQUITY PEOPLE GET FED UP, THEY WILL HAVE TO MOVE NO
02:56:09PM ANOTHER CITY.
02:56:10PM MANY IN SOUTH TAMPA HAVE HOUSES IN OTHER PLACES.
02:56:12PM THEY WILL SPEND MORE TIME IN OTHER PLACES BECAUSE THEY DON'T
02:56:15PM WALKING ON SIDEWALKS THAT ARE FALLING APART AND WALKING IN
02:56:18PM THE STREET WHEN THE SIDEWALKS ARE FALLING APART.
02:56:20PM THE PARKS -- PEOPLE WITH FAMILY WHICH IS A LOT OF OUR TECH
02:56:24PM WORKERS.
02:56:25PM THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY ANGRY THAT THE PARKS ARE NOT FIXED,
02:56:29PM BASIC AMENITIES.
02:56:30PM AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, IF THE SWINGS ARE BROKEN
02:56:34PM AND THE KIDS CAN'T PLAY ON THEM WE NEED TO FIX THEM FIRST.
02:56:39PM AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY.
02:56:42PM THERE ARE SOME ACCESSIBLE FACILITIES, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE
02:56:46PM SURE IT KIDS FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO
02:56:55PM PARTICIPATE.
02:56:55PM EVERY CHILD NEEDS A CHANCE TO PLAY ON A SWING AND WHATEVER
02:56:58PM THE OTHER AMENITIES.
02:56:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY ELSE WITH PARKS IN GENERAL?
02:57:08PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:57:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LOOKING AT THIS NON-AD VALOREM DEBT PROGRAM
02:57:13PM WHICH I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE END TODAY.
02:57:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE TO TALK OF POLICE AND ALL THAT
02:57:19PM FIRST.
02:57:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW.
02:57:20PM BUT THIS IS PART OF IT.
02:57:21PM YOU LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL DEBT ISSUANCE, PUBLIC SAFETY --
02:57:28PM BASICALLY $100 MILLION OF THIS.
02:57:30PM AND THE RESTS THAT INCLUDE PARKS AND REC ARE NOT EVEN 38
02:57:37PM MILLION.
02:57:38PM WE NEED TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AND SEE HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE
02:57:42PM EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTE THAT A BIT MORE.
02:57:44PM D EQUABLY DIRECT MORE.
02:57:49PM I WOULD LOOK AT CAPITAL FUND FOR PARKS -- AND WE KIND OF
02:57:58PM NEED TO TALK OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND BEST.
02:58:00PM AND I THINK SOMETIMES GOOD IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO.
02:58:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOODER.
02:58:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST PUTTING OUT THERE.
02:58:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME KIND OF SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS
02:58:11PM TOO.
02:58:11PM AGAIN I AM GOING TO TRIPLE DOWN AS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA
02:58:14PM PROPOSED AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID HE SUPPORTED AND I DO
02:58:20PM AS WELL.
02:58:20PM OUR PLAYGROUND IS ACCESSIBLE WITH SOME EQUIPMENT WHEN A
02:58:24PM CHILD GOES TO A PLAYGROUND, THEY DON'T FEEL EXCLUDED.
02:58:28PM IMPORTANT FOR A HEALTHY, VIBRANT CITY TO HAVE SOMETHING
02:58:32PM SUCCESSFUL.
02:58:32PM I DON'T WANT SEE THE DISAPPOINTMENT ON THE PLAYGROUND WHEN
02:58:39PM THEY CAN'T PARANORMAL WITH THE OTHER KIDS.
02:58:41PM GIVES ME GOOSE BUMPS THINKING ABOUT IT.
02:58:43PM SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME AS WELL.
02:58:44PM ANOTHER THING GREEN SPACE OPINION I KNOW THEY PROBABLY
02:58:47PM MOSTLY CRA BUSINESS, BUT PARKS AND REC WILL BE INTIMATELY
02:58:51PM INVOLVED IN THIS.
02:58:53PM CHANNELSIDE AND GREEN SPACE.
02:58:54PM FOR MISS FEELEY, PROPERTY ACQUISITION, AN ENSURING THERE IS
02:59:00PM SO -- WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF DEVELOPING CHANNELSIDE AND
02:59:04PM HAVEN'T DONE SECURING AND ENSURING THAT THERE IS GREEN
02:59:07PM SPACES IN CHANNELSIDE.
02:59:08PM WHERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, I THINK WE REALLY
02:59:11PM NEED TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SPACE THERE.
02:59:14PM FAMILY AND KIDS THERE TO HAVE GREEN SPACE TO PLAY AND
02:59:18PM COOLING.
02:59:24PM AREA TO COOL DOWN IN AND SOMETHING TO FOCUS IN.
02:59:27PM FOR THIS 2026 BUDGET, LOOK AT THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND
02:59:31PM LOOK AT THE CRA WHAT WE CAN DO IN CHANNELSIDE FOR ALL THE
02:59:35PM DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THIS.
02:59:38PM I DON'T KNOW BEEN WHO WAS FIRST.
02:59:40PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:59:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: DID WE PIVOT TO PUBLIC SAFETY OR PARKS?
02:59:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE STILL ON PARKS.
02:59:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHILE SITTING HERE, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
02:59:53PM MADE IT CLEAR IN PRIOR YEARS AND HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING THIS
02:59:56PM YEAR AND I THINK THAT IS VERY NICE TO THEM, BUT I KEEP
02:59:58PM TRYING TO BRING EVERYTHING BACK TO THE BUDGET.
03:00:00PM THIS IS NOT OUR TIME TO ASK WHAT WE WANT.
03:00:02PM THEY ALREADY GIVEN US THE BUDGET.
03:00:05PM OUR TIME TO MOVE THE MONEY AROUND.
03:00:06PM WE ARE THE ONES DOING IT.
03:00:07PM WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DEPARTMENTS TOP DO THIS FOR US.
03:00:11PM WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THE WORK.
03:00:13PM THINGS I AM TRYING TO ASK ABOUT ARE SPECIFIC NUMBERS.
03:00:16PM I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WANT DIFFERENT THINGS.
03:00:25PM NOT WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT.
03:00:30PM I CAN SEE WHERE WE START WITH THAT, BUT QUITE FRANKLY WE ARE
03:00:34PM THE ONES MOVING MONEY AROUND.
03:00:36PM THE QUESTIONS WE ARE ASKING SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING MONEY AND
03:00:39PM WHERE TO PUT THAT.
03:00:40PM THE ONUS IS ON US NOW TO MOVE THE MONEY AROUND.
03:00:44PM THE ONUS IS NOT -- THEY ARE NOT DOING THIS ANYMORE, THIS IS
03:00:48PM OUR BUDGET.
03:00:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE NOT WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT IS THE
03:00:51PM HAM THEIR COMES DOWN IN THE HEARING, BUT RIGHT NOW WORKSHOP
03:00:55PM -- OBVIOUSLY THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ARE THE FOR EXAMPLE
03:00:58PM STANDING UP BEHIND US AND THE PEOPLE HAVE BUDGETS.
03:01:06PM IN THIS WORKSHOP THE WANTS, NEEDS AND DESIRES.
03:01:09PM THEY CAN COME BACK TO US.
03:01:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE POINTS AND THE ADMINISTRATION
03:01:13PM MADE THAT CLEAR IN PREVIOUS -- THEY ARE NOT GOING BACK TO
03:01:17PM MOVE THIS MONEY.
03:01:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S A HAMMER.
03:01:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM SAYING WE NEEDED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP
03:01:23PM PRIOR TO THE BUDGET AGED DON'T REMEMBER SIT DOWN WITH STAFF
03:01:26PM THIS YEAR TO TALK ABOUT THINGS I WANTED.
03:01:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DID NOT.
03:01:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T EITHER.
03:01:31PM I THINK THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO BUILD THAT IN.
03:01:34PM BUT AS WE ARE TALKING BEING THIS, I HOPE EVERYONE IS MAKING
03:01:38PM NOTES WHERE TO FIND THIS MONEY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE NEED
03:01:41PM TO BE DOING NOW.
03:01:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ASKED MISS COPESKY TO DO FOR US.
03:01:44PM DOCUMENT THIS AND HAVE -- HIGH TEMPERATURE HURTAK I JUST --
03:01:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO REITERATE.
03:01:54PM IT IS OUR TURN TO MOVE THE MONEY.
03:01:58PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
03:02:01PM I WANT TO PUT A FOOTNOTE IN THE PARKS CONVERSATION.
03:02:05PM SPATIAL VIEWER FOR ALL PARKS AND A CATEGORY THERE FOR
03:02:09PM DISABILITY-FRIENDLY.
03:02:10PM FOR THE PUBLIC -- I WANT TO SAY FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAFE.
03:02:14PM GO TO OUR GEO AREA, AND LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE PARK AND IT
03:02:19PM WILL TELL IF YOU IT HAS EQUIPMENT THAT IS
03:02:22PM DISABILITY-FRIENDLY.
03:02:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE AT A TIME BUT WILL BE NICE TO HAVE
03:02:26PM THEM 100%.
03:02:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS GOOD INFORMATION.
03:02:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS GOOD INFORMATION.
03:02:31PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:02:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID IS TECHNICALLY
03:02:36PM ACCURATE.
03:02:36PM SHE AND I WERE BOTH ON THE CHARTER REVIEW.
03:02:39PM SHE WAS THE SPOKESPERSON FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW AND SHE CAN
03:02:42PM REMEMBER WE CAN PUT SOMETHING IN BUDGET, BUT DOESN'T MEAN
03:02:45PM THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL SPEND THE MONEY.
03:02:48PM WE KNOW FROM STATION 24 FROM THE INCREASE IN THE ROAD
03:02:52PM BUDGET, FROM THE HOUSING MONEY WE SET ASIDE IF THE
03:02:54PM ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT, WE SLOW WALK AND HAVE
03:03:00PM MONEY FOR NEXT YEAR.
03:03:00PM THE REASON WHY I WOULD ASK THEM IS BECAUSE TO SOME EXTENT WE
03:03:10PM NEED TO AGREE AND THE BUDGET WILL BE ALLOCATED AND SITTING
03:03:14PM THERE.
03:03:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO WRAP THIS UP -- YOU WANT TO SAYING
03:03:19PM ON PARKS AND REC.
03:03:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THIS.
03:03:23PM THEY ARE UNDER ADMINISTRATION BUT CITY EMPLOYEES.
03:03:28PM WITH THE 2 MILLION.
03:03:29PM I SAID WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT.
03:03:32PM NO LONGER IN CHARGE OF THE BUDGET, WE ARE.
03:03:36PM THEY ARE.
03:03:39PM THEY CAN FACILITATE FROM COUNCIL.
03:03:42PM THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT EMPLOYEES OF THE SYSTEM.
03:03:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: TO WRAP THUMB, ASK MESS COPESKY.
03:03:51PM NOT A CONSENSUS TO FILL IN THE GAP FOR ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT.
03:03:55PM ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN REACH A CONSENSUS ON WITH THE
03:03:58PM DISCUSSION WE JUST HAD PARKS AND REC OR IOU THAT IS WOULD
03:04:03PM COME BACK?
03:04:09PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:04:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE FOR MISS COPESKY TO TALK OF ONE
03:04:13PM OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHICH IS PARKS WHICH
03:04:15PM IS SORT OF OUR RECOVERY FROM MILTON HAS BEEN TREES.
03:04:20PM I KNOW TWO VERY IMPORTANT TREES TO ME BOTH CAME DOWN IN A
03:04:30PM WEEK'S TIME JUST LAST WEEK AND VICTIMS OF MILTON AND JUST
03:04:34PM TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER --
03:04:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WAKENED.
03:04:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, THEY WEAKENED.
03:04:39PM AS WE GO FORWARD, ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT
03:04:42PM IS EXPANDING OUR -- OUR TREE TRIMMING AND THE PEOPLE TO HELP
03:04:50PM WITH THAT AND WILL ROLL INTO PUBLIC SAFETY AND I DO
03:04:54PM RIDE-ALONGS WITH FIRE.
03:04:55PM ONE OF THE THINGS -- THE BUCKET TRUCKS THEY HAVE WITH THE
03:04:58PM FRONT BUCKET.
03:04:59PM THOSE BUCKETS RUN INTO TREES ALL THE I'M.
03:05:02PM DRIVER HIMSELF GETS FINED FOR THAT.
03:05:06PM OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TRIM THOSE TREES.
03:05:09PM QUITE FRANKLY IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
03:05:16PM I KNOW THE CHIEF IS TRYING TO GET MORE LOW-PROFILE FIRE
03:05:20PM TRUCKS BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BUY NEW FIRE TRUCKS.
03:05:23PM CHEAPER SWAY TO TRIM TREES.
03:05:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A LOT OF TREES.
03:05:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT, FIRE TRUCKS GO FOR A GOOD $1 MILLION
03:05:30PM WITH THOSE NOW.
03:05:31PM I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN PROBABLY COME UNDER $1 MILLION TO
03:05:35PM MAINTAIN OUR TREES.
03:05:36PM SO I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMITES
03:05:45PM OF FREE MAINTENANCE FOR NOT ONLY THE FIRST RESPONDERS BUT
03:05:49PM THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
03:05:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I A QUESTION ABOUT THAT?
03:05:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:05:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE HAVE A DEDICATED STAFF THAT DOES
03:05:58PM NOTHING BUT TRIM TREE AS SOON AS.
03:05:59PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, WE DO.
03:06:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IS THAT?
03:06:04PM >>OCEA WYNN: I WILL HAVE COME BACK WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
03:06:08PM THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
03:06:09PM SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE COMPONENTS OF
03:06:13PM TREE AND EQUIPMENT.
03:06:14PM I WILL HAVE TO COME BACK YOU WITH.
03:06:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OBVIOUSLY THE NEEDS ARE GREAT AND
03:06:18PM RESOURCES ARE FEW CONSIDERING THE SIZE OF THE CITY AND THE
03:06:21PM NUMBER OF TREES.
03:06:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT DEPARTMENT TO
03:06:24PM GET THEM MORE EQUIPMENT AND POSSIBLY MORE MAN POWER OR
03:06:28PM PERSON POWER BUT REALLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF
03:06:34PM SAFETY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE AND JUST -- WE HAVE
03:06:38PM ALL SEEN THE TREE COMING DOWN.
03:06:40PM ABSOLUTELY HEARTBREAKING.
03:06:42PM ALONG WITH THAT IS TREE PLANTING A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
03:06:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS A STAT CONSTITUTES QUO BUDGET AND
03:06:51PM DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY INCREASES FOR TREE TRIM SOMETHING IN.
03:06:54PM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT'S CORRECT.
03:06:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMETHING TO LOOK FOR.
03:06:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER
03:07:03PM VIERA.
03:07:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
03:07:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THANK YOU.
03:07:06PM ONE THING FOR HAGAR TO DO, FINDING FUNDS FOR THE DISABILITY
03:07:11PM PARK EQUIPMENT IMPROVEMENT.
03:07:12PM AND I MENTIONED SOUTH TAMPA AND NORTH AND NEW TAMPA.
03:07:16PM SULPHUR SPRINGS OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T HAVE A CRA THAT IS A
03:07:20PM LITTLE BIT OF NORTH TAMPA, BUT JUST REALLY ANYWHERE THAT IS
03:07:23PM OUTSIDE OF THE CRA AREAS.
03:07:33PM NEW TAMPA, NOT A PRIORITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE ALL
03:07:36PM ABILITIES WORK THAT IS WONDERFUL.
03:07:37PM BUT POTENTIALLY MORE IN SOUTH COMPANY, PARTS OF NORTH TAMPA,
03:07:42PM FOWLER, BUSCH, SULPHUR SPRINGS VERY SPRINGS.
03:07:46PM AND IN THAT RECORD.
03:07:48PM I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. CHAIR, CAN I SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THE
03:07:53PM INTERNSHIP SINCE --
03:07:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING
03:08:00PM TO SAY --
03:08:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO BE CLEAR ON CONSENSUS.
03:08:03PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS -- BUT WE HAVE CONSENSUS
03:08:07PM ON THE ABILITIES PARK.
03:08:10PM PARKS ARE FALLING APART IN SOUTH TAMPA THEY ARE FALLING
03:08:13PM APART EVERYWHERE, MY CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THEY PAY A LOT OF
03:08:20PM MONEY IN TAXES, THEY REMIND US EVERY DAY, FALLING APART AND
03:08:24PM THE CITY IS BUILDING ADDS 80 MILLION PARK WITH INTEREST.
03:08:27PM WE NEED EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
03:08:30PM SPENDING $80 MILLION IN ONE PARK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
03:08:35PM PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHY ARE OUR PARKS FALLING APART.
03:08:39PM BASED ON SOCIAL MEDIA OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAY, A HUGE
03:08:44PM PROBLEM AND COULD HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN HERE AND THE
03:08:47PM ADMINISTRATION HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS THE PARKS IN
03:08:51PM SOUTH TAMPA.
03:08:51PM IN SOUTH TAMPA, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN LEFT BEHIND AS
03:08:54PM THE MAYOR WORKED ON PET PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
03:08:57PM WE GOT ADDRESS THEM.
03:09:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: C.I.T. -- MR. ROGERO, WHEN IS C.I.T. WILL
03:09:08PM KICK IN AND SEAT REVENUE.
03:09:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.
03:09:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW MUCH OF THIS IS INCORPORATED IN PARKS
03:09:15PM AND REC.
03:09:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ONLY THE EXISTING COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
03:09:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL WILL HAVE TO BE APPROPRIATED FOR --
03:09:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
03:09:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAX STARTS IN DECEMBER OF '26.
03:09:31PM UNBUDGETED REVENUE AT THIS POINT?
03:09:34PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS.
03:09:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS WE SEE MONEY ROLL IN, WE CAN
03:09:38PM APPROPRIATE THAT REVENUE.
03:09:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU CAN.
03:09:40PM AND IN FACT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO NEXT YEAR DURING BUDGET
03:09:47PM PROCESS.
03:09:47PM WE HAVE A LIST OF PARTICULAR AREAS A REQUIREMENT OF THAT
03:09:50PM TAX.
03:09:50PM PARKS AND RECREATION, MOBILITY, ETC.
03:09:53PM BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE DO IS START APPROPRIATING THAT AHEAD
03:10:02PM OF TIME TO THE DATE WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE
03:10:06PM REFERENDUM.
03:10:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:10:09PM WE HAVE A LOT OF PARK PROPERTY.
03:10:10PM POCKET PARKS, SMALL PARKS.
03:10:12PM JEWELS THAT WE COULDN'T ACQUIRE IF WE TRIED TO TODAY.
03:10:16PM WE HAVE NOT HAD THE HEAVY REVENUE TO YOU MAINTAIN THESE
03:10:20PM THINGS.
03:10:20PM ALL THESE PARKS OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:10:25PM PARK NEAR THE ALDI ON SWANN.
03:10:27PM WE HAVE THESE GREAT PIECES PROPERTY THAT WE -- NICE TO BE
03:10:31PM ABLE -- SOMEBODY COULD GIVE COUNCIL THAT LIST OF WHAT WAS
03:10:35PM INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSALS FOR THE PARKS, I WOULD APPRECIATE
03:10:37PM THAT.
03:10:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS.
03:10:40PM ESSENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE
03:10:46PM THINK THAT EVERYBODY IN SOUTH TAMPA IS RICH.
03:10:47PM NOT EVERYBODY.
03:10:48PM WE HAVE PEOPLE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF
03:10:51PM PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY, VERY WEALTHY AND INVESTING IN
03:10:55PM BUSINESSES, CREATING WEALTH AND WE WILL LOSE THEM.
03:11:00PM THEY DON'T WOULD BE A NO PLACE WHERE IS THE KIDS DON'T GO TO
03:11:04PM THE PARKS.
03:11:04PM TONY MULKEY WAS OUTSTANDING AND WORKING CLOSELY WITH ME.
03:11:08PM WE WERE GOING REQUEST PARKS AND VISIT PARKS AND VISIT PEOPLE
03:11:14PM AND ALL THAT INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY IS GONE OPINION WHOEVER
03:11:16PM YOU APPOINT TO TAKE MISS PLACE, I AM HAPPY TO TAKE THEM
03:11:21PM AROUND AGAIN.
03:11:22PM WE LOOK AT THE PEOPLE AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO SEE HOW THE
03:11:28PM COMMUNITY INTERACTS WITH THESE.
03:11:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND MANISCALCO AND
03:11:33PM GOING BACK --
03:11:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: GOING BACK WITH PARKS.
03:11:36PM I WILL TOUCH ON THIS, IF I MAY, WE HAD A PARKS MASTER PLAN
03:11:40PM AND I CAME UP WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN, BY THE
03:11:45PM WAY.
03:11:45PM BUT DID A PARKS MASTER PLAN.
03:11:47PM A REAL MASTER PLAN.
03:11:49PM BIGGER THAN THE BIBLE.
03:11:50PM AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT FOR SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES.
03:11:55PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SAID AND I AM SURE WE WOULD FIND
03:11:58PM UPKEEP THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA AND A LOT OF OUR OLDER
03:12:01PM PARKS AND IN SOUTH TAMPA.
03:12:02PM I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND KNOW THE SAME
03:12:05PM THING ABOUT THE ROADS AND THE PARKS HAVING CHALLENGES, BUT
03:12:08PM IS DISTRICT SEVEN IN NEW TAMPA WHICH IS BEING BIGGEST -- I
03:12:14PM DON'T WANT TO USE THE DETERMINE "DESERT."
03:12:18PM IT IS NOT A PARK DESERT.
03:12:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE GREAT FRONTIER.
03:12:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE A CLASS OF TAMPA AND THIS IS THE LEAST
03:12:28PM AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO CITY PARKS.
03:12:30PM WE ARE -- THANK GOODNESS WE ARE DOING THE K-BAR RANCH PARK
03:12:35PM FINISHING IT UP NEXT YEAR.
03:12:37PM I ALWAYS SAY ON PARKS, WE NEED HAVE VERY, VERY BIG
03:12:41PM INVESTMENTS AROUND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.
03:12:42PM WITH REGARD TO THE DISABILITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
03:12:46PM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, MISS WYNN, THE INTERNSHIP -- THE
03:12:51PM INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED LAST WEEK THAT THE CITY
03:12:54PM -- WHERE IS THAT FUNDED FROM?
03:12:58PM FROM THE SOCIAL ACTION NETWORK OR SOCIAL ACTION SECTION OAR
03:13:01PM FROM GENERAL BUDGET, GENERAL FUND?
03:13:04PM >>OCEA WYNN: UNDER THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND.
03:13:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, NOT THE SPECIAL
03:13:10PM NEEDS ONE, BUT THE OTHER ONE.
03:13:11PM >>OCEA WYNN: OF THE REGULAR INTERN SHIP.
03:13:21PM >> UNDER THE GENERAL FUND.
03:13:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHY CAN'T THE SPECIAL NEEDS ONE BE UNDER THE
03:13:25PM GENERAL FUND TOO?
03:13:26PM THAT IS MY QUESTION.
03:13:27PM THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO TREAT KIDS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS THE
03:13:31PM SAME WAY WE TEACH KIDS IN THAT PROGRAM AND MAKE IT
03:13:33PM PERMANENT.
03:13:34PM BY PUTTING IT IN THE SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS WE PUT IT AT RISK
03:13:39PM EVERY SINGLE YEAR BECAUSE THAT GETS CUT, CUT, CUT.
03:13:42PM AND THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.
03:13:43PM COUNCIL, I CAN'T MAKE A ON THAT TODAY.
03:13:47PM NUMBER ONE, WHEN WE GET THE FUNDS SPEND IT ON INTERNS.
03:13:51PM PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES WITH THE CITY TAMPA.
03:13:55PM AND WANT IT TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE IF WE
03:14:04PM PUT IT IN THE BUCKET RIGHT NOW, THAT'S TEMPORARY.
03:14:07PM TEMPORARY.
03:14:08PM WE GOT TO MAKE IT PERMANENT.
03:14:10PM I GETS FRUSTRATED BUT THREE YEARS, 100 DAYS AND WE HIRED TWO
03:14:16PM INTERNS.
03:14:16PM I GET TRUST RATED WITH THAT.
03:14:19PM I WILL SAY TEN SECONDS TO THIS.
03:14:21PM I WOULD -- I AM JUST PUTTING A WORD IN.
03:14:28PM YBOR CITY MUSEUM.
03:14:29PM SOMEBODY HAS TO CHAMPIONSHIP THAT.
03:14:31PM I GO AT THE TIME IN FOR I 350 AND MY CREDIT CARD MAY BE
03:14:35PM MAXED OUT THIS YEAR.
03:14:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE VIOLATED OUR RULES AND BROUGHT UP --
03:14:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, YOU ARE LIKE, DAMN YOU, VIERA.
03:14:43PM NO, THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
03:14:45PM PUBLIC SAFETY STUFF.
03:14:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WITH WHAT
03:14:52PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK JUST REMINDED US OF.
03:14:54PM IF YOU ARE MANAGING THAT REQUEST OR SUGGESTION, YOU PROBABLY
03:14:58PM NEED TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH HOW YOU WILL FIND THESE FUNDS
03:15:01PM AND WHERE TO MOVE THE FUNDS FROM.
03:15:02PM FYI.
03:15:03PM BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
03:15:05PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:15:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON
03:15:08PM BUT HE LEFT THE ROOM, SO I WILL PASS -- I WAS GOING TO ASK
03:15:12PM -- HE HAD MENTIONED PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT IN SOUTH
03:15:16PM TAMPA.
03:15:16PM WHICH ARE THE PARKS THAT WE HEAR THE MOST ABOUT?
03:15:19PM BECAUSE I TRY TO GO TO -- I TRY TO TAKE MY STEPDAUGHTER TO
03:15:24PM PARKS ALL OVER THE CITY.
03:15:25PM AND WE SEE A COUPLE LITTLE THINGS SO I KNOW PRIORITY.
03:15:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TWO HIGH-PROFILE ONES.
03:15:35PM SWANN CIRCLE AND THE PARK NEXT TO THE FORMER WINN-DIXIE
03:15:39PM NOW ALDI ON SWANN IS TWO.
03:15:41PM OTHERS.
03:15:42PM POCKET PARKS IN THESE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND INNER BAY.
03:15:48PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:15:49PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:15:50PM HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU.
03:15:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM NOT ON NEXT DOOR AND OTHER
03:15:55PM PLATFORMS --
03:15:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OH, YOU ARE MISSING OUT.
03:15:58PM [LAUGHTER]
03:15:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHICH PARKS ARE PEOPLE COMPLAINING THE
03:16:01PM MOST OF?
03:16:02PM FOR EXAMPLE, RIVER CREST IN SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:16:08PM AND THE VILA BROTHERS, WE DISCUSSED THAT YEARS AGO.
03:16:13PM DO YOU FIND THE MOST COMPLAINTS.
03:16:15PM I TRY VISIT THE PARKS WITH MY FAMILY.
03:16:18PM SWANN MENTIONED AND INTERBAY.
03:16:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: INTERBAY.
03:16:21PM CAN WE ASK STEPHANIE.
03:16:23PM A WHOLE STRING LAST NIGHT THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF STEPHANIE
03:16:26PM IS ALLOW TO TALK ABOUT IT.
03:16:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN SHE FORWARD THAT TO ALL OF US?
03:16:31PM >> NO.
03:16:31PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN NEIGHBORHOOD OF COMMUNITY AND
03:16:36PM NEIGHBORHOOD AFFAIRS.
03:16:37PM WHAT DO YOU BASED ON THE MASTER PLAN, WE PRIORITIZE THOSE
03:16:41PM PARKS.
03:16:41PM BUT MAY BE SOME PARKS THAT HAVE RISEN TO THE OCCASION THAT
03:16:44PM WE NEED TO REPRIORITIZE AND MOVE AROUND.
03:16:47PM SO YOU HAVE A LIST, WE CAN JUST MAP THAT LIST AGAINST WHAT
03:16:52PM IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE
03:16:56PM POCKET AND DO AN ASSESSMENT.
03:16:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT I TRY TO DO IS, AGAIN, I HAVE A
03:17:00PM 13-YEAR-OLD.
03:17:01PM SHE LOVES TO GO TO THE DIFFERENT PARKS.
03:17:03PM SHE LOVES VILA BROTHERS AND DURANT AND RIVERSIDE PARK, SHE
03:17:09PM LOVES MacFARLAND PARK.
03:17:12PM EVERY WEEK WITH SUMMER BREAK, MY WIFE IS TRYING TO TAKE HER
03:17:15PM TO AS MANY NEW PARKS AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE SHE GOES SCHOOL IN
03:17:20PM SOUTH TAMPA.
03:17:21PM AND I TRY TO PHOTOGRAPH -- FOR EXAMPLE, THE RIVERWALK, PARK
03:17:27PM AT CURTIS HIXON.
03:17:29PM THE FAKE GRASS THEY REDID THAT THE OTHER DAY.
03:17:32PM OVERALL, CITY STAFF, PARKS AND RECORD ARE GOOD AT REPAIRING.
03:17:41PM WHICH ARE THE FIRST PARKS.
03:17:43PM AND MAKING AFFAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS.
03:17:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS NOT TRYING TO BE COY, GROUPS ON MIND
03:17:56PM WHERE MEMBERS SAY THEY ARE NOT SAYING WHAT IS GOING ON.
03:17:59PM BUT I WILL GET AN INDICATION OF IT.
03:18:01PM OCEA, SOMETHING THAT -- MOBILITY AND STORMWATER HAVE
03:18:05PM CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AT TAMPA.GOV.
03:18:12PM SO YOU AND I DON'T GET 100 OR 200 E-MAILS.
03:18:18PM >>OCEA WYNN: OUR CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE NUMBER TOMORROW THAT --
03:18:21PM THAT USED TO -- THAT REPLACED OUR CUSTOMER COMPLAINT -- OUR
03:18:27PM CITIZEN COMPLAINT LINE.
03:18:27PM WE HAVE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE NUMBER.
03:18:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE AN E-MAIL?
03:18:33PM >>OCEA WYNN: TAMPA CONNECT.
03:18:34PM I WILL GET IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES TO GIVE OUT
03:18:37PM CORRECT INFORMATION.
03:18:38PM AND SO THAT YOU CAN SEND IT OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
03:18:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYBODY WATCHING GOOGLE FEEDBACK ON PARKS.
03:18:47PM WE ARE TRYING TO GET MEMBERS OF THE GROUP TO PUT THE E-MAIL
03:18:50PM OUT OF THE SO WE DON'T END UP HAVING TO FORWARD HUNDREDS
03:18:54PM E-MAILS.
03:18:55PM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT IS GREAT.
03:18:56PM SOME OF THE ASSETS MAY FALL WITHIN PARKS AND RECREATION AND
03:19:00PM MAY BE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
03:19:02PM ONE CENTRAL POINT THROUGH TAMPA CONNECT WILL NOW ALLOW US TO
03:19:08PM ACCESS --
03:19:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES LEFT AND
03:19:13PM HAVEN'T COVERED POLICE, FIRE AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
03:19:16PM MAY WANT TO CONSIDER RESCHEDULING ONE OF THOSE.
03:19:19PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, ONLY AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES LEFT.
03:19:22PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:19:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:19:24PM I JUST WANT TO SAY I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES MY
03:19:28PM OFFICE HAS SENT THE PARKS MASTER PLAN OUT TO PEOPLE.
03:19:32PM SO I WANT TO JUST AGAIN HIT ON THAT.
03:19:36PM BECAUSE NOT THE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU WANT, IT IS THE ANNEX.
03:19:39PM THE ANNEX SHOWS EVERYTHING THAT IS PLANNED FOR EACH PARK.
03:19:43PM AND SO I OFTEN SEND PEOPLE THERE FIRST.
03:19:48PM PEOPLE HOE HAVE QUESTIONS OF A SPECIFIC PARK.
03:19:51PM THAT WAY WHEN THEY DIRECT THEIR CONCERN, THEY CAN ABSOLUTELY
03:19:54PM SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE BE THIS ADDRESSED BEFORE THAT
03:20:00PM BUT SINCE IT IS NOT ON THEIR LIST, SOMETHING ELSE TO KNOW.
03:20:03PM IT GIVES PEOPLE ADDITIONAL HELP AND ALSO INCREDIBLY HARD TO
03:20:07PM READ BECAUSE THE FONT IS INCREDIBLY SMALL.
03:20:09PM IT IS OVER, I WANT TO SAY, I 50 PAGES OR 200 PAGES OF JUST
03:20:14PM THE ANNEX.
03:20:15PM SO TINY THAT EVEN BLOWING IT UP, IT GETS TO -- I JUST WANTED
03:20:20PM TO SAY.
03:20:20PM THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO PUNT THAT OUT.
03:20:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE ON PARKS AND REC BEFORE WE
03:20:26PM HAVE MOVE ON.
03:20:27PM WHAT WOULD COUNCIL LIKE DISCUSSION FIRST, POLICE, FIRE,
03:20:29PM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
03:20:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WANT TO START WITH FIRE.
03:20:40PM I WILL LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY.
03:20:43PM AND YOU LOOK AT ANTICIPATED NON-AD VALOREM DEBT PROGRAM
03:20:49PM WHICH IS WHERE ALL YOU HAVE THIS IS COMING.
03:20:51PM I BELIEVE SOME OF THIS IS COMING TO US ON THURSDAY.
03:20:53PM CHIEF BENNETT HAS REACHED OUT TO ME TO HAVE A MEET BEING THE
03:21:01PM HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX AND I AM STRUGGLING FOR $40 MILLION FOR
03:21:07PM EVIDENCE STORAGE.
03:21:08PM MY POINT IS -- AND I WOULD LOVE IF EVERY BUILDING WE CAN
03:21:12PM BUILD AND PUNT THE STATE OF THE ART STUFF AND WE ARE NOT AT
03:21:18PM THAT POINT ANY LONGER.
03:21:19PM AS MR. CARLSON POINTED OUT, I FEEL -- I ALSO FEEL WE ARE
03:21:24PM HITTING SOME TYPE OF DEBT LIMIT.
03:21:25PM I DO NOT WANT TO BOND FOR MUCH MORE.
03:21:29PM I AM CURIOUS, WHAT TIMES OF THING WE CAN BUILD AND BUILD TO
03:21:33PM BE GOOD.
03:21:34PM NOT, YOU KNOW, EXCEPTIONAL.
03:21:37PM AND THAT IS PROBABLY A HARD THING TO SAY, BUT I DO BELIEVE
03:21:43PM THAT WE CAN FIX UP A HOWARD AVENUE EVIDENCE FACILITY
03:21:49PM WOULDN'T IT BEING 40 MILLION.
03:21:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:21:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL VOTE AGAINST IT.
03:22:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAINST WHAT I SAID IN.
03:22:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: AGAINST THAT EVIDENCE ROOM.
03:22:03PM SOMETHING TO ME THAT IS NICE TO HAVE BUT WE DON'T NEED IT.
03:22:06PM WHAT THE POLICE OFFICERS TELL ME, WANT MORE FIRE FIGHTERS.
03:22:10PM WHAT FIRE FIGHTERS SAY, THEY WANT MORE FIRE FIGHTERS.
03:22:12PM WE CAN'T BOND TO HIRE PEOPLE, BUT WE HAVE TOE FOCUS ON WHAT
03:22:16PM IS IMPORTANT, NOT WHAT A WE WANT TO HAVE.
03:22:19PM YOU KNOW, THERE IS ALL THAT KIND OF NASTY POLITICS GOING ON.
03:22:22PM IF YOU VOTE AGAINST SHOT SPOTTER, SOMEBODY SAYS YOU ARE
03:22:26PM ANTI-POLICE.
03:22:27PM I WAS SOMEBODY THAT BE FOUGHT HARD TO GET RAISES FOR POLICE
03:22:30PM AND FIRE AND FOUGHT HARD OF OTHER FUND US.
03:22:35PM AND SEVERAL PRIORITIES WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AND PBA THREE
03:22:42PM YEARS AGO ASKED FOR 200 MORE POLICE OFFICERS AND WE DIDN'T
03:22:45PM GET ANY ESSENTIALLY.
03:22:45PM POLICE OFFICERS AND FEVERS FEEL LIKE THEY ARE OVERWORKED.
03:22:48PM WE ADD NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING TRAINED, BUT IN
03:22:52PM EFFECT, THEY ARE GETTING THE PEOPLE WHO WILL ARE LEAVING AND
03:22:56PM THE NET IS THE THEY ARE NOT REALLY INCREASING.
03:22:57PM AND OUR POPULATION HAS INCREASED AND WE ARE NOT GETTING MORE
03:23:02PM PEOPLE AND THE PUBLIC WANTS TO BE SAFE.
03:23:04PM THEY WANT TO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE COVERED.
03:23:06PM IN CASE OF THE EMERGENCY, THEY WANT TO FEEL FEEL'S LIKE THEY
03:23:09PM HAVE A HEART 'TACK THAT TFL MOVING QUICKLY.
03:23:12PM AND AGREEMENT THAT POLICES ARE PATROLLING.
03:23:14PM AND THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN
03:23:19PM OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
03:23:19PM THEY WANT US TO INVEST INFORM MORE PEOPLE.
03:23:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
03:23:27PM NEXT.
03:23:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: I CAN WAIT.
03:23:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:23:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THIS IS NOT A CONVERSATION I NECESSARILY
03:23:34PM WANTED TO HAVE THE CHIEF RIGHT NOW.
03:23:35PM I KIND OF WANTED TO HAVE IT WITHIN OURSELVES OF -- EVERY
03:23:40PM DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL COME US TO AND SAY WE NEED THIS.
03:23:42PM THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FOR EVERYTHING.
03:23:45PM BUT IT IS UP TO US TO DETERMINE WHAT IS POSSIBLE ONLY 20
03:23:53PM MILLION.
03:23:54PM WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH US IN TERMS OF THIS EVIDENCE STORAGE
03:23:57PM FACILITY.
03:23:57PM BECAUSE I AM NOT FOLLOWING GO OVER 20 MILLION PERIOD RIGHT
03:24:01PM NOW.
03:24:02PM IF WE WANTED TO ADD THINGS TO IT, LITTLE BY LITTLE EVERY
03:24:06PM YEAR.
03:24:06PM AS WE LOOK AT THIS ANTICIPATED DEBT -- THE REASON I AM
03:24:10PM STARTING WITH POLICE IS BECAUSE FIRE, I THINK HAVE A
03:24:12PM DIFFICULT DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF BUILDING BUILDINGS.
03:24:16PM AND THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, WE STILL HAVE -- WE STILL HAVE
03:24:23PM BIG BLUE, AND IT IS MOSTLY EMPTY I AM REALLY STRUGGLING HOW
03:24:30PM WHICH PUT $40 MILLION INTO SOMETHING THAT QUITE FRANKLY
03:24:34PM COULD BE $20 MILLION TO GET IT STARTED IF THIS IS WHAT THEY
03:24:37PM SAY THEY.
03:24:40PM I AM JUST CURIOUS OF EVERYONE ELSE'S OPINION BEFORE WE ASK
03:24:44PM DEPARTMENT HEADS.
03:24:44PM BECAUSE, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE EVERYONE WILL SAY THEY WANT THE
03:24:50PM BIGGEST AND BEST.
03:24:51PM I DON'T BEGRUDGE THAT, BUT WE ARE THE PURSE HOLDER.
03:24:55PM CARLSON DON'T FORGET 40 MILLION IT WILL BE BONDED THAN IT
03:25:01PM WILL BE $70 OR $80 MILLION.
03:25:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT CAN WE DO INCREMENTALLY.
03:25:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE MAYOR HAS SCRIPTS FOR HER VIDEO IN THE
03:25:11PM NEXT YEAR AND A HALF.
03:25:12PM SOMETHING THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE OUT IN OF HER SCRIPT.
03:25:15PM ESSENTIAL AND NICE TO HAVE BEFORE YOU WITH HE NEED MORE
03:25:18PM POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREET.
03:25:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:25:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:25:21PM COUPLE OF THINGS FOR THAT.
03:25:23PM I HEARD PBA.
03:25:27PM THEIR PREFERENCE -- I TWO LIKE TO INQUIRE WITH THEM.
03:25:29PM THEY ARE NOT HERE, I DON'T THINK, WITH THEIR POSITION ON
03:25:33PM THIS.
03:25:33PM MY BIGGEST THING IS CHAIN OF EVIDENCE ISSUE IS VERY, VERY
03:25:38PM IMPORTANT.
03:25:39PM OBVIOUSLY WHEN POLICE ARE CUSTODIANS OF PIVOTAL EVIDENCE IN
03:25:44PM CRIMINAL CASES INVOLVING FROM SMALL OFFENSES TO TERRIBLE
03:25:47PM TRAGIC OFFENSE WHERE IS YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
03:25:50PM VICTIMIZED AND BRUTALIZED.
03:25:52PM AND IT CHANGED YOU WILL HAVE CHAIN OF EVIDENCE QUALITY
03:25:57PM THERE.
03:25:57PM OBVIOUSLY TRUST THE POLICE FOR THAT.
03:26:01PM I WANT TO TALK -- WHEN I SAY THAT BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER
03:26:10PM CARLSON.
03:26:11PM THAT -- TRUST POLICE.
03:26:13PM I WANT TO BE CLEAR I TRUST POLICE.
03:26:15PM IF SOMEBODY IS FILMING THIS FOR A VIDEO.
03:26:19PM YOU KNOW POLITIC.
03:26:20PM THAT WASN'T MEANT.
03:26:22PM THIS THAT REGARD.
03:26:22PM I F CHIEFS WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT THAT IS GREAT, THE GUN
03:26:27PM ISSUE WITH THE PBA OF WHERE THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO COME AND
03:26:32PM FUNDED THIS YEAR IN THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, SOMETHING THAT
03:26:35PM IS, LIKE, A BIG DEAL.
03:26:37PM I KNOW WE ALL BELIEVE IN THAT.
03:26:40PM THAT IS A GREAT FLAG WE REALLY OUGHT TO BUILD ON THAT REALLY
03:26:45PM HELPS TO DEESCALATES THINGS AND PREVENT TERRIBLE TRAGEDIES
03:26:50PM WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY PEOPLE WITH MENTAL
03:26:53PM HEALTH CHALLENGES AND HAVING THEIR WORST DAY.
03:26:55PM I DO WANT TO TALK BECOME THAT.
03:26:57PM IF WE WANT TO OF THE EVIDENCE ISSUE, THAT IS FINE.
03:27:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ASKED FOR COUNCIL
03:27:04PM MEMBERS TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS FIRST.
03:27:05PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO?
03:27:07PM YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
03:27:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
03:27:09PM WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT, YOU
03:27:14PM KNOW, IF WE -- IF WE LOOK AT THE LIFESPAN OF BIG BLUE HERE
03:27:18PM ON FRANKLIN STREET AND TPD GOING TO MOVE AND WANT TO BUILD A
03:27:22PM NEW HEADQUARTERS, WHY DON'T WE INCORPORATE THIS WITH THE NEW
03:27:27PM HEADQUARTERS OPINION.
03:27:27PM OF THE EVIDENCE BUILDING WHICH IS MORE THAN THAT GOING TO
03:27:31PM COST A LOT OF MONEY.
03:27:32PM HOW MUCH IS A NEW POLICE STATION HEADQUARTERS WILL BE, $100
03:27:36PM MILLION.
03:27:36PM WHY DON'T WE INCORPORATE EVERYTHING INTO ONE AND SAVE MONEY
03:27:40PM IN LONG RUN.
03:27:41PM SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY.
03:27:43PM I KNOW THE PROJECT -- I KNOW THE PARCEL WHERE IT IS AT NOT
03:27:51PM TO GET INTO TOO MANY DETAILS WHERE POLICE STATION COULD GO.
03:27:53PM SOMEBODY WILL SAY NO, BUT THE HANNA AVENUE BUILDING, COULD
03:27:59PM THAT BE UTILIZED FOR EVIDENCE.
03:28:00PM IS THERE ENOUGH SPACE IN I DON'T KNOW.
03:28:02PM SPENDS THIS KINDS OF MONEY WITH A BOND AND THE INTEREST THAT
03:28:06PM WE PAY, WHY DON'T WE BUILD A NEW INCLUSIVE POLICE
03:28:09PM HEADQUARTERS AND INCLUDE THAT EVIDENCE SPACE THERE.
03:28:11PM AND JUST BE ONE AND DONE AND PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL
03:28:15PM HELP US ABSORB A LOT OF THESE COSTERS INSTEAD OF SPENDING
03:28:18PM ALL THIS MONEY ON ONE PROJECT.
03:28:19PM THAT IS JUST MY CONCERN.
03:28:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:28:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST LISTENING.
03:28:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE I
03:28:32PM RECOGNIZE THE CHIEF PETITION?
03:28:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T DISAGREE AND YOU ARE THE ONE THAT
03:28:36PM INITIALLY NEW AT BUT THAT WHICH ISN'T A BAD IDEA.
03:28:39PM THROW A LOT OF MONEY INTO A PLAN OF THIS BUT, AGAIN, OUR
03:28:44PM THOUGHT IS TO SIMPLY DO SOME OF IT.
03:28:46PM AND SLOWLY ADD IN AS WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO SO.
03:28:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAVE THESE VARIED
03:28:53PM CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT
03:28:56PM SOME OF MY CONCERNS.
03:28:56PM THEY WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE AND GIVE THE CHIEF AN OPPORTUNITY
03:29:00PM NOW TO TALK ABOUT -- AND SHARE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE
03:29:03PM HAD ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
03:29:03PM CHIEF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES YOU
03:29:07PM HEARD FROM COUNCIL.
03:29:09PM >>LEE BERCAW: THANK YOU, CHIEF BERCAW.
03:29:13PM LAST THING WANT TO DO IS SPEND 40 MILLION AND BOND 40
03:29:16PM MILLION.
03:29:16PM BUT WE ARE GOOD STEWARD OF OUR TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS.
03:29:21PM AND THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION.
03:29:23PM WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS YOU BELOW GOOD.
03:29:25PM IT IS INADEQUATE.
03:29:27PM WHAT I HAVE MY EVIDENCE ON IN THE SEVENTH FLOOR OF
03:29:30PM HEADQUARTERS IS INADEQUATE.
03:29:31PM THIS IS NOT -- IS MORE THAN A NEED, THERE ARE IS A MUST.
03:29:34PM THAT MUST HAPPEN.
03:29:36PM I'M HERE TELLING COUNCIL AS CHIEF OF POLICE, THAT THE
03:29:39PM IMPLEMENT NEEDS THIS.
03:29:40PM THIS IS A BASIC CORE FOUNDATION.
03:29:42PM IF IT DIDN'T, IT WOULDN'T HAVE MADE APPROVAL FOR US.
03:29:46PM IF THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT LESS, WE WOULD DO IT.
03:29:49PM C.A.D.'S JOB, I'M SURE THEY WILL COME UP AND SAY NO OTHER
03:29:55PM WAY TO DO THAT LESS.
03:29:56PM AND AS FAR AS A FUTURE POLICE STATION, YOU ARE LOOKING AT
03:30:00PM PLUS $400 MILLION TO DO.
03:30:02PM THAT ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THERE OR IN THE OTHER
03:30:06PM BUILDING WILL COST THE SAME.
03:30:07PM WE ARE EXPLORING OTHER OPTIONS THAT MAY HELP US MITIGATE THE
03:30:14PM COSTS OF A FUTURE POLICE STATION THAT I KNOW NOW IT IS NOT
03:30:19PM READY FOR DISCUSSION, BUT OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE THAT WILL
03:30:21PM HELP US MITIGATE THE COST OF A BRAND-NEW POLICE STATION.
03:30:25PM THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALL THIS KNEE WITH AND WITHOUT AN
03:30:28PM EVIDENCE FACILITY IS GOING TO OFF SET AND IT IS NOT THERE.
03:30:32PM SOMETHING WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DELAYED BEYOND, AND WE ARE
03:30:37PM TALKING OF SITUATIONS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS IN WITH
03:30:39PM SOME OF THEIR FIRE STATIONS NOW.
03:30:41PM WE CAN NOT LET THIS CONTINUE ON IN THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE
03:30:44PM IN FOR EVIDENCE.
03:30:45PM AND I DON'T COME HERE AND I DON'T TALK TO COUNCIL LIKE A AND
03:30:50PM DEMAND SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
03:30:51PM I DO DEMAND THAT YOU GUYS A LEAST CONSIDER THERE ARE
03:30:57PM STRONGLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS.
03:31:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:31:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN WE FIRST HEARD OF THIS, CHIEF CATE
03:31:08PM IS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT IT UP.
03:31:11PM ED THE EVIDENCE PROCEDURE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND I HAVEN'T
03:31:16PM SPOKEN TO THE CHIEF OR CHIEF CATE.
03:31:24PM AND I NEVER TALKED TO CHIEF CATE OR THE CHIEF OF POLICE
03:31:29PM REGARDING THIS.
03:31:31PM I REMEMBER SITTING OVER THERE THAN HERE.
03:31:34PM REMEMBER LOOKING AT BOTH ITEMS THERE COMPARED TO A CITY IN
03:31:39PM ORLANDO COMPARED FOR WHAT TAMPA HAS, WE ARE SICKENING
03:31:42PM BECAUSE OF THAT.
03:31:42PM LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE -- JUST ONE
03:31:48PM PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT IS NOTED A MISS IN COURT SOMEBODY
03:31:51PM COULD WALK WHO WAS A KILLER.
03:31:54PM HE OR SHE.
03:31:55PM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WATCH -- I WATCH A LOT OF
03:31:58PM TELEVISION, BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, THOSE C.S.I. GUYS PICK UP
03:32:05PM ONE HAIR AND MATCH IT WITH THE CIGARETTE THING.
03:32:07PM I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO IT, BUT I DO IT.
03:32:10PM BY WATCH IT -- I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE SHOW.
03:32:18PM HOW THEY CAN MATCH UP EVIDENCE AND CORRECTLY FIND THE PERSON
03:32:26PM WHO COMMITTED THE CRIME.
03:32:27PM I DON'T KNOW FINANCE THAT SUPPLY GOAL, BUT MY GOAL TO MAKE
03:32:29PM THE CITY OF TAMPA EQUAL TO OR NOT BETTER THAN OTHER AGENCIES
03:32:33PM WE HAD PRESENTING AND CONTROLLING THE EVIDENCE OF THIS CITY.
03:32:36PM IT IS PARAMOUNT COMPARED TO THE COST OF ONE LIFE THAT MAY BE
03:32:42PM CONSIDERED UNEXPLAINABLE AND UNTREATED FOR THE PERPETRATOR
03:32:47PM NOT TO THE GO TO JAIL.
03:32:48PM THANK YOU.
03:32:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, CARLSON AND
03:32:52PM HURTAK.
03:32:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK.
03:32:54PM I GOTTEN A GLIMPSE ON WHAT IS -- SEVENTH FLOOR OF BIG BLUE.
03:32:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
03:33:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS.
03:33:02PM GET IT.
03:33:03PM WHAT WE ARE USING -- THINK OF IT THE SEVENTH FLOOR.
03:33:06PM WHEN EVIDENCE GOT TORT GO TO THAT BUILDING, HOW MANY PEOPLE
03:33:09PM TOUCH IT?
03:33:10PM BEFORE IT GETS TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO, WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE
03:33:15PM -- A NEW FACILITY OR A NEW -- BE A NEW EQUIPMENT AND THE
03:33:20PM PROPOSED AND THE CURRENT.
03:33:23PM WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT YOU CAN HAVE A ROLLS-ROYCE FOR
03:33:28PM 400,000 OR HAVE A MERCEDES S CLOSE FOR $120,000.
03:33:35PM BOTH ARE VERY DIFFERENT AND VERY NICE.
03:33:38PM $120,000.
03:33:40PM A $120,000 CAR BUT A VERY NICE VEHICLE.
03:33:43PM WHAT CAN WE TO DO SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY.
03:33:46PM NOT JUST $30 MILLION, $40 MILLION.
03:33:49PM IT IS THAT BONDING.
03:33:51PM I WANT THE MOST BANG OR FOUR BUCK WHERE YOU CAN -- LOOK AT
03:33:56PM THIS, I HAVE SEEN THIS.
03:33:57PM IT'S -- IT IS LIKE AN OLD SCIENCE LAB ESSENTIALLY.
03:34:02PM TPD DESERVES BETTER.
03:34:06PM WHAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS TOP OF THE LINE.
03:34:08PM WHAT WERE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHAT IS THEIR
03:34:10PM EVIDENCE AND EVERYTHING, IT IS -- IT IS TOP STANDARD.
03:34:13PM BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE, AND,
03:34:18PM YES, THE ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE.
03:34:20PM WE SPEND 40 MILLION IN EAST TAMPA ON A PARK AND $100 MILLION
03:34:25PM ON A PARK OVER IN HANNAH.
03:34:27PM MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN'T JUST BOND EVERYTHING.
03:34:29PM AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ELSE CAN BE BROUGHT UP OF A SAVINGS
03:34:38PM AMOUNT AND AT THE SAME TIME.
03:34:40PM GIVING YOU A GOOD PRODUCT.
03:34:41PM SO, AGAIN, I WILL WAIT TO SEE WHEN THAT TIME COMES AND
03:34:45PM WHATEVER OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE.
03:34:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:34:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: TO BE FAIR TO THE CHIEF, I WAS NOT CONVINCED
03:34:53PM BY THIS LAST PRESENTATION.
03:34:54PM TO BE FAIR TO THE CHIEF GIVE HIM AN HOUR IN THE NEXT COUPLE
03:34:58PM OF WEEKS --
03:34:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THURSDAY.
03:35:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: THURSDAY.
03:35:02PM LET MINIMUM PRESENT THAT.
03:35:04PM THE QUESTION TO ME IS NOT JUST WHETHER WE DO THIS OR NOT, WE
03:35:08PM HAVE A -- BASED AND WHAT WE HEAR FROM POLICE OFFICERS, WE
03:35:11PM HAVE A DESPERATE NEED FOR MORE POLICE.
03:35:14PM AND SO -- AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY.
03:35:17PM WE DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED APARTMENTS OF MONEY.
03:35:20PM I THINK HE OUGHT TO -- INSTEAD OF ARGUING THE WHOLE THING
03:35:24PM NOW, LET HIM COME TO WITH THE FIRST SHOT AND DISCUSS IT
03:35:27PM THEN.
03:35:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES HAVE 26 IMPLICATIONS.
03:35:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:35:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU SAY OUR EVIDENCE IS BAD RIGHT NOW?
03:35:36PM >> I WOULD SAYS IT INADEQUATE.
03:35:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE LOSING CASES BECAUSE OF IT.
03:35:42PM >> INADEQUATE AND LOSES CASES ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
03:35:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY QUESTION IS ARE YOU LOSING CASES.
03:35:48PM >> I WOULD HAVE TO GO RESEARCH IT, BUT OFF THE TOP OF MY
03:35:52PM HEAD, I DON'T KNOW.
03:35:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I WILL LOOK FOR ON THURSDAY WHAT YOU CAN
03:35:56PM DO WITH $20 MILLION.
03:35:57PM AND, AGAIN, MAYBE A TIMELINE OF -- I SEE BOXES.
03:36:02PM BOXES ARE OKAY FOR NOW.
03:36:03PM IF WE CAN GET YOU A NEW FACILITY WITH AIR CONDITIONING AND
03:36:07PM ALL THAT STUFF SPECIAL, AND THEN AS THINGS GO ON, EVERY --
03:36:11PM WE GET $5 MILLION EVERY YEAR AFTER, THAT IS THE KIND OF
03:36:15PM STUFF I AM LOOKING FOR.
03:36:16PM LIKE WHAT CAN WE DO WITH $20 MILLION.
03:36:20PM AND WHAT IS YOUR PLAN GOING FORWARD, $5 MILLION EACH YEAR TO
03:36:24PM FIX -- TO FILL IT OUT.
03:36:25PM THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR.
03:36:27PM I AM NOT SAYING NOT TO HAVE IT, BUT HOW CAN WE DO IT
03:36:32PM INCREMENTALLY TO GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED AND DO IT IN A
03:36:35PM FINANCIAL ASPECT THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
03:36:38PM I AM NOT SAYING NO TO $40 MILLION.
03:36:40PM I AM SAYING NO TO BONDING IT IMMEDIATELY.
03:36:42PM WHAT CAN WE DO WITH 20 AND WHAT CAN WE DO GOING FORWARD AND
03:36:47PM WHAT I WOULD LOVER TO SEE ON THURSDAY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT
03:36:49PM THE PUBLIC IS LOOKING FOR.
03:36:51PM PUBLIC WANTS PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC WANTS A LOT OF OTHER
03:36:54PM STUFF AND WE HAVE THAT JOB TO BALANCE.
03:36:56PM >>LEE BERCAW: A GOOD POINT AND CONTINUE TO ADD ON, THE
03:37:02PM FACTOR IF YOU PUT OFF PIECES AND IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT
03:37:05PM COULD BE DONE, THEN THE INCREASED COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED
03:37:09PM WITH DELAY IN CONSTRUCTION PART OF THAT EQUATION AS WELL.
03:37:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS, BUT THOSE ARE SMALLER INCREMENTAL
03:37:16PM BITES WE CAN CHEW.
03:37:17PM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER THINGS.
03:37:19PM AND I -- I UNDERSTAND.
03:37:21PM THAT IS I DIDN'T SAID, EVERY DEPARTMENT COMES HERE AND THEY
03:37:24PM SAY THEY NEED IT.
03:37:25PM I AM NOT SAYING YOU DON'T NEED IT.
03:37:27PM I AM SAYING HOW CAN YOU HELP US GET IT TO YOU IN A SMALLER,
03:37:32PM MORE INCREMENTAL.
03:37:33PM OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL NEED A BIG CHUNK UP FRONT TO BUILD AND
03:37:37PM MAKE THE FACILITY SAFE.
03:37:38PM CAN WE TRANSFER THINGS THERE.
03:37:40PM WHAT THEN WILL BE YOUR NEXT.
03:37:42PM WHAT ARE THE THINGS.
03:37:43PM HOW CAN WE BUILD THE BUILDING AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS NEED
03:37:46PM TO GO IN IT BY ORDER OF PRIORITY.
03:37:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE GOT THAT.
03:37:51PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:37:52PM AND THEN I AM GOING TO SPEAK AND THEN CARLSON AND MIRANDA.
03:37:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:37:56PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:37:57PM ONE BURDEN THAT YOU WOULD ALL BEAR ON THURSDAYS THAT COUNCIL
03:38:02PM MEMBER MANISCALCO PRETTY MUCH MENTIONED -- I DON'T KNOW IF I
03:38:05PM MADE THIS THUMB SAYING, YOU CAN'T CHANGE WHO YOU ARE, BUT
03:38:08PM YOU CAN CONTAIN YOUR EXCESSES.
03:38:10PM ANY EXCESSES THAT YOU CAN TRIM.
03:38:11PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS TALKING ABOUT 20 MILLION, IT BE
03:38:18PM $38.5, 39, WHATEVER IT IS.
03:38:20PM SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE IF POSSIBLE TO TALK BECOME THAT ON
03:38:24PM THURSDAY.
03:38:24PM BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO WAS TALKING
03:38:27PM ABOUT IS COMMON SENSE WHICH IS IF THINGS CAN BE TRIMMED OFF
03:38:30PM OF IT, BY ALL MEANS, LET'S DO IT.
03:38:32PM IF EVERYTHING IS CRITICALLY NEEDED TO THE BUSINESS OF
03:38:36PM PRESERVING EVIDENCE, THEN THAT IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT
03:38:39PM FOR ME WOULD BE VERY, VERY COMPELLING VERY COMPELLING AND
03:38:49PM WHO CAN BE RESPONSIBLE.
03:38:50PM TAMING THOSE EXCESSES.
03:38:53PM SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT FOR THURSDAY.
03:38:54PM THANK YOU.
03:38:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:38:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR ANYBODY WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE
03:38:59PM HAVE -- I THINK I CAN SPEAK TO EVERYBODY.
03:39:01PM WE HAVE THE GREATEST RESPECT FOR THE POLICE CHIEF AND ALL
03:39:04PM THE POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE.
03:39:05PM NOW I WILL SPEAK WITH MY OWN VOICE.
03:39:08PM THE CONTEXT OF THIS IS THAT -- THIS ADMINISTRATION CAME TO
03:39:12PM COUNCIL LIKE FIVE YEARS AGO AND SAID, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO
03:39:15PM HAVE THIS $240 MILLION BUILDING.
03:39:16PM WE HAVE TO THIS.
03:39:17PM IT IS JUST -- YOU KNOW, IT -- WE SHOULDN'T LET OUR STAFF
03:39:21PM WORK IN OTHER PLACES.
03:39:22PM ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT BUY OUR OWN BUILDING.
03:39:24PM WE HAVE TO AND IN HINDSIGHT THAT WAS A TERRIBLE DECISION.
03:39:32PM THEY CAME US TO INSTEAD OF PAYING $5 MILLION FOR A PARK OR
03:39:36PM $18.
03:39:37PM IF YOU INCLUDE INTEREST, IT IS $80 MILLION.
03:39:42PM WE HAVE TO HAVE THE WEST RIVERWALK.
03:39:44PM YOU WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE IT.
03:39:47PM IT COMES FROM THE FACT THAT THE LEADERS OF THE
03:39:49PM ADMINISTRATION WERE THE HEADS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
03:39:51PM USED TO PEOPLE DOING WHAT THEY WANT.
03:39:52PM UNFORTUNATELY FOR THEM, THIS IS A DEMOCRACY AND PEOPLE HAVE
03:39:56PM A VOICE AND WE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE.
03:39:58PM OTHER THING IN THE SOUTH HOWARD.
03:40:00PM ADMINISTRATION SAID WE HAVE TO HAVE IT.
03:40:02PM EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK A WASTE OF MONEY AND USE
03:40:05PM IT TO CLEAN OUT OTHER PLACES.
03:40:07PM BECAUSE THEY WANT IT, PUSH OUT ALL COSTS TO TRY TO GET THIS
03:40:10PM THROUGH.
03:40:10PM WHAT OUR JOB IS TO STOP BAD PROJECTS AND STOP WASTE.
03:40:15PM WHAT I AM QUESTIONING, I AM NOT QUESTIONING THE POLICE OR
03:40:18PM THE POLICE CHIEF.
03:40:21PM QUESTIONING THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WANTS TO WIN.
03:40:24PM BEING RESPONSIBLE CARETAKERS OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY.
03:40:29PM >>LEE BERCAW: CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT --
03:40:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MET ME SPEAK AND I WILL LET YOU WRAP THE
03:40:37PM CONVERSATION UP AND CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION ON THURSDAY.
03:40:41PM IT IS INTERESTING LISTENING, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAD A LONG
03:40:45PM CONVERSATION OF CHIEF OF STAFF AND CHIEF BERCAW ABOUT THIS
03:40:47PM VERY ISSUE.
03:40:48PM A LOT OF THE TALKING POINTS THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- YOU
03:40:52PM HEARD KIND OF THE SAME CONCERNS I HAD.
03:40:54PM AFTER HAVING THAT LONG CONVERSATION, WHICH I ENCOURAGE YOU
03:40:57PM TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY, IF YOU NEED IT BETWEEN BOTH
03:41:00PM INDIVIDUALS, BECAUSE IT WAS PERSUASIVE ENOUGH TO PUSH ME
03:41:06PM OVER THE 49% TO 51% IN SUPPORT OF.
03:41:10PM BUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP TO ME.
03:41:13PM MY CONCERNS WERE EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:41:16PM ONE MORE WAS LAND USAGE BECAUSE IT IS IMPOUND AND A PRIME
03:41:25PM PIECE OF PROPERTY AND TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH THE LAND
03:41:28PM UTILIZATION.
03:41:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
03:41:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS MY CONCERN.
03:41:32PM I KIND OF DID.
03:41:33PM THAT WAS ASKED AND ANSWERED BECAUSE COUNTRY CENTRAL LOCATION
03:41:36PM OF THE CITY AND UTILIZATION OF THE POLICE FORCES TO BRING
03:41:39PM THEIR EVIDENCE TO THAT -- IF THEY ARE IN NEW TAMPA AND HAVE
03:41:42PM TO TRAVEL TO A LOCATION OR SOUTH TAMPA AND HAVE TO TRAVEL TO
03:41:45PM A LOCATION, HAVING A CENTRAL LOCATION IS IMPORTANT BEING
03:41:49PM FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND PRACTICAL WITH THE WORK FORCE.
03:41:53PM ALSO CHANGE IS MISSING IN THIS CONVERSATION IS NOT JUST WHAT
03:41:57PM IS HAPPENING INSIDE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS HAPPENING
03:42:00PM IN THE BUILDING THAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON RENOVATING.
03:42:02PM IT IS MULTIFACETED PARCEL WHAT THEY ARE IMPOUNDING
03:42:08PM HERE.
03:42:08PM THEN FEBRUARY I THINK THE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED AND ANSWER.
03:42:14PM BIG BLUE WEATHER BLUE.
03:42:16PM PARLAYED UNDER ONE BIG PROJECT AND TRYING TO MAKE THAT
03:42:21PM HAPPEN.
03:42:21PM QUESTIONS WERE ASKED AND ANSWERED AND I ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO
03:42:24PM REACH OUT AND HAVE THAT KIND OF CONVERSATION AND OBVIOUSLY
03:42:27PM WITHOUT THAT, WE WILL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ON THURSDAY.
03:42:29PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:42:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A BIGGER QUESTION KNOW.
03:42:35PM WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS DEBT PROGRAM.
03:42:37PM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY NO TO.
03:42:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW.
03:42:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU REFUSED TO SAY NO TO THE WEST RIVERWALK,
03:42:45PM TO THE BUILD, REFUSED TO SAY NO TO OTHER THINGS ARE WANTS
03:42:48PM AND NOT NEEDS.
03:42:49PM WE GET TO THIS POINT NOW.
03:42:50PM AND I DON'T -- I DON'T GET ANGRY VERY OFTEN, BUT HONESTLY,
03:42:55PM WE CANNOT SAY YES TO EVERYTHING.
03:42:56PM WHICH IS WHY I THINK IN THIS CONVERSATION THE ABILITY TO SAY
03:43:03PM YES, WE WANT YOU TO HAVE IT AND CAN'T AFFORD IT ALL AT ONCE
03:43:08PM IS A REASONABLE DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
03:43:09PM SO FAR I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY SAYING NO TO ANYTHING.
03:43:13PM THAT BOTHERING ME OVERALL AS A COUNCIL SOMETHING WE
03:43:18PM CONSTANTLY GET PUSHED BACK -- THEY SAY YOU DON'T SAY NO TO
03:43:22PM ANYTHING.
03:43:22PM THE HONESTY IS, THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL SAYS YES TO
03:43:26PM EVERYTHING.
03:43:26PM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I THINK WE ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE A
03:43:29PM SOLID PUSH BACK OF NO.
03:43:31PM I AM NOT GOING TO APPROVE THIS AD VALOREM DEBT PROGRAM
03:43:34PM TOMORROW -- ON THURSDAY.
03:43:35PM I AM JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT IF THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING.
03:43:38PM THE BUILD GRANT, $16 BE -- $16.68 MILLION, NO, WE DON'T NEED
03:43:48PM IT.
03:43:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERY PROJECT IS LOOKED AT INDIVIDUALLY.
03:43:52PM NOT HOLISTICALLY.
03:43:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EVERY PROJECT IS GREAT.
03:43:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYTHING IS WEIGHED HERE --
03:43:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT IT IS NOT.
03:43:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS.
03:43:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS NOT.
03:44:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME TALK -- CAN I TALK NOW.
03:44:04PM BRING UP THESE CONVERSATIONS.
03:44:05PM YOU HAVE ONE PROJECT THAT IS BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL.
03:44:07PM AND EARNING MY VOTE ON SOMETHING.
03:44:10PM I TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME.
03:44:12PM A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, A RETURN ON THIS INVESTMENT.
03:44:16PM DO I ANTICIPATE WHEN THE CITY SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY -- NOT
03:44:20PM OUR MONEY BUT TAXPAYER MONEY ON A PROJECT.
03:44:23PM DOES IT GENERATE ENOUGH AD VALOREM, REVENUE NEW SOME SORT TO
03:44:27PM REPAY THE TAXPAYER PLUS MORE PROVIDING JOBS, ECONOMIC
03:44:32PM DEVELOPMENT, OPPORTUNITY.
03:44:34PM SO I WEIGH -- I WEIGH THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO
03:44:38PM THAT.
03:44:38PM PUBLIC SAFETY IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
03:44:40PM BUT I ALSO -- I ALSO DON'T AGREE AND A LOT OF PUBLIC
03:44:47PM CRITICISM OF COUNCIL.
03:44:48PM YOU CAN'T STOP DOING THIS UNTIL WE DO THAT.
03:44:50PM BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE CITY IS IT IS MULTIFACETED AND WE
03:44:55PM ARE A JUGGLER.
03:44:55PM WE HAVE TO KEEP A LOT OF BALLS IN THE AIR.
03:44:58PM YOU CAN'T JUST CHOOSE WHICH BALLS TO JUGGLE.
03:45:01PM BALLS ARE THROWN AT YOU WITH PUBLIC SAFETY ALREADY FIRE,
03:45:05PM POLICE, ROADS, SIDEWALKS.
03:45:06PM ALL THESE THINGS WE DO AS A CITY.
03:45:08PM WE CAN'T JUST SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS X, Y OR Z
03:45:13PM TODAY.
03:45:13PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO FIRE.
03:45:15PM ONLY FOCUS ON POLICE.
03:45:16PM NOT DO THIS TODAY.
03:45:17PM BUT FOCUS ON THAT.
03:45:19PM WITH FY '26 AND FUTURE BUDGETS, WE HAVE TO IS HE SIDE HOW
03:45:26PM MANY SMALL BITES OF THE APPLE ARE WE GOING TO TAKE TO
03:45:28PM ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING.
03:45:29PM I AGREE.
03:45:30PM I WAS IN FULL SUPPORT DAMAGE OF A MILLAGE INCREASE DO MORE.
03:45:34PM I SUPPORTED THAT MILLAGE -- I SEE YOUR FINGERS BACK THERE.
03:45:37PM I SUPPORTED THAT BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THE REVENUES ARE NOT
03:45:41PM SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE NEED OF THE CITY AND THE DEMAND OF
03:45:44PM THE CITY AND THE DEMANDS THAT PEOPLE EXPECT.
03:45:47PM WE DIDN'T REASON IS THAT.
03:45:48PM DIDN'T HAVE THAT REVENUE INCREASE.
03:45:50PM THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION AGAIN WITH POLICE AND FIRE --
03:45:53PM WITH THE FIRE STATIONS, NEED FOR NEW FIRE STATIONS.
03:45:56PM WE HAVE TO BOND THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE
03:45:58PM REVENUE TO DO IT.
03:45:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BOND EITHER.
03:46:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WILL BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT.
03:46:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: $16.8 MILLION FOR THE WESTERN RIVERWALK.
03:46:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE RIVERWALK --
03:46:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO SEE HOW MUCH THAT
03:46:16PM CREATES --
03:46:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL SEE HOE IS RIGHT AND WRONG.
03:46:19PM WE WILL GET TOGETHER IN THE OLD AGE HOME 20 YEARS TO FIGURE
03:46:23PM WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG.
03:46:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS JUST A GIFT TO A DEVELOPER.
03:46:27PM AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY ONE THING YOU ARE WILLING TO SAY NO TO
03:46:31PM IN THIS BUDGET.
03:46:32PM ONE BONDING THING YOU ARE FOLLOWING SAY NO TO.
03:46:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BONDING STUFF.
03:46:35PM I VOTED AGAINST THE LAST BOND -- I THINK ONLY TWO OF US
03:46:39PM VOTED AGAINST THAT ONE.
03:46:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT YOU APPROVED ALL THE PROJECTS.
03:46:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A GO.
03:46:47PM PAY GO.
03:46:48PM I WILL SUPPORT A LOT OF STUFF IF IT IS PAY GO.
03:46:50PM I GOT A SIGNAL FROM MY RIGHT SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK AND I TO
03:46:55PM SHUT UP.
03:46:55PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:46:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU TWO.
03:46:59PM BECAUSE I DON'T GET MAD AT ALL.
03:47:01PM I DON'T EVEN GET EVEN.
03:47:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM NOT BAD.
03:47:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW YOU ARE NOT.
03:47:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM FULL OF LOVE.
03:47:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WHEN FROM THE POLICE
03:47:11PM TO THE RIVERWALK.
03:47:12PM LET ME EXPLAIN THE RIVERWALK.
03:47:15PM MORE THAN 50% OF IT IS PAID BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
03:47:18PM SPECIFICALLY THE BOND GIVEN US TO 20 SOME MILLION FOR THE
03:47:25PM FEDS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT ISSUE.
03:47:27PM YOU CAN'T TUESDAY FOR -- YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
03:47:34PM WHEN YOU TALK OF PROSPERITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING
03:47:39PM HAVE VERY LITTLE.
03:47:39PM RIVERWALK IS DOING VERY WELL.
03:47:42PM WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU GUY HERE IN 1974 WHEN I SAT HERE
03:47:47PM AND NOT DAMN THING GOING ON IN THE CITY.
03:47:49PM NOTHING.
03:47:50PM NO YBOR CITY.
03:47:51PM NO DOWNTOWN.
03:47:52PM THE BUDGET WAS $ 00 MILLION.
03:47:55PM NOTHING FOLLOWING DO IN TAMPA.
03:47:56PM NO HOTEL.
03:47:57PM CONVENTION CENTERS GOING TO HELL.
03:47:59PM NO CARS.
03:48:00PM UNDER GRECO ADMINISTRATION, WE GOT 100 AND SOME POLICE
03:48:05PM OFFICERS HIRED WITH NO MONEY, BECAUSE THEY -- PAID THE FEE
03:48:08PM FOR THREE YEARS IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
03:48:10PM FOR THREE YEARS OF THEIR SALARY.
03:48:12PM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
03:48:14PM BECAUSE I AM GOING BY MEMORY.
03:48:16PM 06 SOME CARS, IF I REMEMBER, ALL AT ONCE IN SPA GARAGE THAT
03:48:33PM INOPERABLE.
03:48:34PM TWO POLICE OFFICERS IN THE CAR BECAUSE WE DIDN'T -- REMEMBER
03:48:37PM THAT.
03:48:37PM >>LEE BERCAW: A LITTLE BEFORE MY HAND.
03:48:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT THAT OLD.
03:48:42PM HOW DID WE GET HERE?
03:48:45PM WE DIDN'T GET HERE BY PAYING CASH.
03:48:48PM WE DIDN'T HAVE NO CASH.
03:48:49PM NOT A DAMN THING ABOUT IT THAT WAS NICE.
03:48:52PM NO DOWNTOWN.
03:48:53PM NO YBOR CITY.
03:48:54PM TAMPA THEATRE WAS SAVED ON A 4-3 VOTE FOR $93,000 IS.
03:48:59PM CONVENTION CENTER -- LUCKILY THE MARRIOTT BUILT HERE.
03:49:03PM IF NOT IT WOULD HAVE CLOSED DOWN TOO.
03:49:05PM LOSES MILLIONS EVERY YEAR STRAZ CENTER WAS TURNED DOWN BY
03:49:14PM THE PUBLIC AND UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF MARTINEZ WHO LATER
03:49:18PM BECAME GOVERNOR SAID WE ARE GOING TO REBUILD IT -- I WASN'T
03:49:22PM HERE.
03:49:22PM I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT.
03:49:24PM HE WAS HERE AND THEY GOT FUNDING TO GET IT GOING.
03:49:28PM HOW YOU GOT THE STRAZ CENTER AFTER THE PUBLIC SAID NO.
03:49:32PM WE TELL HANNA THAT WE DON'T LIKE IT, BUT HELPING PEOPLE.
03:49:42PM IF YOU NEED SEE SOMEBODY, GO AND PARK FOR FREE.
03:49:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND SOLAR PANELS, CHARLIE.
03:49:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TELL YOU OF THE STREETCAR.
03:49:52PM IT WAS PERFECT WHEN I WAS A KID.
03:49:53PM WHEN I GOT AN ADULT, I EVIDENTLY JINXED IT AND TOOK THE
03:49:59PM RAILS OFF IN THE LATE '50s AND TOOK THE TRACK OFF IN THE
03:50:03PM MID-'60s.
03:50:05PM NOTHING HERE.
03:50:06PM NO STREETCAR.
03:50:07PM NO NOTHING.
03:50:07PM WE HAD A BUS LINE THAT WORKED PRETTY WELL UNTIL WE TOOK
03:50:11PM FEDERAL FUNDS AND TAKE SOMEBODY HERE FROM MERE TO WIMAUMA
03:50:15PM FOR A QUARTER AND BACK.
03:50:17PM THAT WAS WONDERFUL.
03:50:18PM THAT CREATED A LOT OF REVENUE.
03:50:20PM ALL THESE THINGS I REMEMBER.
03:50:22PM CONVENTION CENTER DOING PRETTY WELL, VERY WELL.
03:50:26PM LOOK AT THE AQUARIUM.
03:50:28PM IT WASN'T DOING ANYTHING.
03:50:30PM BUT BECAUSE THINGS AROUND IT BECAME AVAILABLE, CONVENTION
03:50:34PM AFTER CONVENTION, BECAUSE VISIT TAMPA BAY WENT OUT AND GOT
03:50:39PM THEM.
03:50:39PM WE HAD BOLLYWOOD WAS HERE TWICE.
03:50:48PM LIKE THE THING THEY DO IN HOLLYWOOD.
03:50:49PM I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU KNEW IT.
03:50:52PM AND TWICE -- TWICE, MORE PEOPLE, MORE ACTOR ARE MORE MOVIES
03:50:58PM CREATED THERE THAN AMERICA AND WOULDN'T KNOW IT.
03:51:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHARLIE, CAN WE WRAP.
03:51:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE THREE MINUTES.
03:51:05PM YOU SPOKE 15 TIMES.
03:51:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ONLY HAVE AN HOUR LEFT.
03:51:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GO IN DEBT TO MAKE
03:51:14PM PROGRESS.
03:51:14PM IF WE HAD NOT GONE IN DEBT, WHERE WOULD YOU THINK YBOR CITY
03:51:19PM WOULD SOMEBODY IN WHAT WOULD YOU THINK DOWNTOWN WOULD BE?
03:51:22PM TELL ME?
03:51:27PM WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
03:51:28PM NOTHING.
03:51:28PM WE HARDLY HAVE BULLETS FOR YOU GUYS TO TRAIN WITH.
03:51:32PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
03:51:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE LUIS VIERA -- COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA
03:51:37PM AND COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:51:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY BRIEFLY -- I WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCILWOMAN
03:51:43PM HURTAK'S COMMENTS.
03:51:43PM I WOULD SAY IN LIFE, THERE ARE THINGS ARE BLACK AND WHITE
03:51:47PM AND GRAY.
03:51:48PM A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE GRAY AND THEN AFTER-THE-FACT
03:51:51PM STATEMENTS.
03:51:52PM I WILL TALK ABOUT ONE THAT I VOTED ON.
03:51:54PM AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IN TERMS OF WHAT SHE IS TALKING
03:51:57PM ABOUT.
03:51:57PM YOU KNOW, SHE BRINGS A LOT OF THINGS TO THE TABLE THAT I
03:52:00PM DON'T BRING TO THE TABLE.
03:52:01PM SHE DOES WITH GRATE GREAT EFFECTIVENESS AND SKILL SKILL.
03:52:06PM THINGS THAT AREN'T MY STRONG POINTS AND IMPORTANT TO
03:52:11PM RECOGNIZE.
03:52:11PM I LOOK AT THE HANNAH VOTE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
03:52:14PM A FUNNY STORY AND WHAT I WAS THINKING IN MY HEAD DURING THAT
03:52:18PM VOTE, WHICH I WON'T SAY FUN, BUT THAT ONE OF THE ONES WHERE
03:52:23PM I WENT, SHOULD HAVE APPLIED A LOT MORE SCRUTINY TO THAT.
03:52:26PM A LOT MORE SCRUTINY.
03:52:27PM WE SHOULD -- I SHOULD HAVE ASKED MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT.
03:52:30PM I SHOULD HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS ON THAT.
03:52:32PM AND EVERYTHING.
03:52:33PM AND AGAIN -- I AM JUST BEING HONEST.
03:52:37PM I AM AN HONEST GUY AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
03:52:39PM YES, WE SHOULD HAVE APPLIED A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY ON
03:52:47PM ME.
03:52:47PM WE TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU OPPOSE, IT IS CRA AND NOT BONDING
03:52:55PM BUT THE STRAZ CENTER AND THE MUSEUM OF ARTS, 6-1 VOTE.
03:52:59PM I VOTED AGAINST THEM, $50 MILLION FOR THOSE GREAT
03:53:02PM INSTITUTIONS.
03:53:02PM PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED IT GO, GUESS WHAT, GREAT THING.
03:53:06PM WILL HELP DOWNTOWN AND HELP THESE AMAZING CULTURAL
03:53:10PM INSTITUTIONS.
03:53:10PM ADMITTED.
03:53:11PM I COULD GO IF WE KEPT THAT MONEY DOWNTOWN, HELP WITH THE
03:53:14PM STREETCAR AND HIM WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THING.
03:53:16PM WE COULD HAVE CAPPED IT AND PUNT IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF
03:53:19PM TAMPA IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
03:53:20PM GUESS THAT THAT IS?
03:53:23PM THE GRAY.
03:53:23PM DOESN'T MAKE ME GREAT FOR VOTE NOTHING, BUT I OPTED ON ONE
03:53:27PM SIDE OF THE GRAY AND EVERYBODY ELSE OPTED ON THE OTHER SIDE
03:53:30PM OF THE GRAY.
03:53:31PM THAT IS THE WAY I LOOK AT THINGS.
03:53:35PM THINGS THAT YOU LOOK AT AND VOTE AND PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE --
03:53:38PM AGAIN, PUBLIC OFFICIALS MAKE MISTAKES IN TERMS OF THE LEVEL
03:53:42PM OF SCRUTINY APPLIED.
03:53:43PM AND GOOD TO BE HONEST AND HUMAN ABOUT THAT.
03:53:46PM I POINT TO THE GRAY ON THINGS I VOTED NOD FROM.
03:53:51PM 50 MILLION.
03:53:53PM NOT BONDING BUT IT IS NOT BLACK AND WHITE AND GRAY.
03:53:55PM A LOT TIMES WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE GRAY, I THINK.
03:53:59PM THANK YOU.
03:54:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:54:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: R,ROGERO.
03:54:07PM YOU HAND A BRIEF CONVERSATION OUT OF THERETO A MINUTE AGO
03:54:12PM GOING OFF IF MEMORY, C.I.T. EARLY ON IN THE GRECO
03:54:19PM ADMINISTRATION.
03:54:19PM DID THAT FUND THE POLICE STATION AS SOON AS I KNOW THAT
03:54:22PM DIDN'T FUND BIG BLUE BECAUSE BUY NOW, PAY LATER KIND OF
03:54:26PM SITUATION.
03:54:26PM BUT ITS SUBSTATIONS WERE THEY FUNDED UNDER THE C.I.T.?
03:54:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: LET US CIRCLE IS BACK A BIT.
03:54:36PM WE WILL CONFIRM OR REFUTE.
03:54:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE REASON I ASK THAT, WITH THE C.I.T.
03:54:40PM RENEWAL EVEN AT THAT 15 YEARS.
03:54:42PM I THINK BACK TO THE STORMWATER VOTE IN 16 WHICH YOU ARE
03:54:47PM CHIEF OF STAFF GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE PREVIOUS MAYOR
03:54:51PM IN ORDER TO BRING DOWN THE COST OF THAT.
03:54:57PM 20 MILLION FROM C.I.T. WAS APPLIED TO THAT BIGGER PICTURE.
03:55:02PM LESS MONEY TO BOND.
03:55:03PM WE CAN FUND THIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN -- PAY GO OR
03:55:14PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
03:55:14PM FUND WITH THE C.I.T. RENEWAL BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY
03:55:18PM WE ARE MAKING THE BANKS RICH.
03:55:20PM A LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY GOING IN INTEREST.
03:55:23PM CAN WE DO IT VIA C.I.T.
03:55:26PM YOU MENTIONED DECEMBER 26 WHEN THAT KICKS IN.
03:55:30PM WE LOOK FISH AND WILDLIFE YEARS OUT.
03:55:31PM PAY THIS WITH C.I.T. WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY SOUTHERN FOR
03:55:35PM INTEREST?
03:55:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE CAN.
03:55:38PM AND THIS A QUALIFIED CAN.
03:55:39PM WE DISCUSSED THIS MAYBE BE IN THIS FORUM BUT DEFINITELY
03:55:42PM DISCUSS IT BEHIND THE SCENES.
03:55:44PM IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE PRIORITIZATION OF THAT CIT VERSION TWO
03:55:50PM FUNDING.
03:55:50PM A GREAT DEAL OF OPPORTUNITY THERE.
03:55:51PM WE ALREADY TALKED EVER TALKED OF POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR
03:55:55PM PARKS.
03:55:55PM BUT IT WILL TAKE SOME PRIORITIZATION ON THE MAYOR
03:55:59PM AND CITY COUNCIL'S PART AND ON THE COMMUNITY'S
03:56:02PM PART.
03:56:03PM MAKING THIS UP, DIRECTED TOWARD ABC.
03:56:07PM DECISION WILL BE DIRECT OR TO PORTION OF THAT TOWARD X,
03:56:16PM Y, Z TO MITIGATE WHAT YOU FINANCE.
03:56:18PM WE ATTEMPTED TO MITIGATE THE FINANCING USING OTHER REVENUE.
03:56:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYTHING OUT THANK YOU PREVIOUS
03:56:25PM MAYOR'S -- HIS RESPONSE TO ME, NO, WE ARE CAN'T .NO, WE
03:56:29PM CAN'T.
03:56:29PM PHYSICAL I VOTED A SWING VOTE -- $20 MILLION AND THIS C.I.T.
03:56:39PM AND WE HEARD THE POLICE SAY HOW IMPORTANT THIS PROJECT IS.
03:56:42PM THE CONCERNS COUNCIL MEMBERS IT CONCERNS OF OTHER PROJECT
03:56:45PM THAT HAVE BEEN BONDED IN RECENT HISTORY HERE.
03:56:48PM BUT WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO GENERATE FROM THAT 15-YEAR C.I.T.
03:56:54PM RENEWAL.
03:56:54PM A NUMBER, $100 MILLION, 300 MILLION?
03:56:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CITY OF SOMEWHERE.
03:56:59PM WE WILL FIND IT.
03:57:01PM SUBSTANTIAL, YES.
03:57:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TALK OF PRIORITIZING THE C.I.T. MONEY.
03:57:08PM THE MAYOR'S TERM ENDS IN 22 MONTHS.
03:57:11PM DECEMBER 26.
03:57:12PM SHE IS STILL HERE.
03:57:13PM WE ARE STILL HERE BECAUSE OUR TERMS ARE GOING.
03:57:16PM THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS SAYING HOW IMPORTANT THIS PROJECT IS.
03:57:19PM WHY DON'T WE MAKE THIS A PRIORITY WITH COMMUNITY INVESTMENT
03:57:23PM TAX MONEY GOING TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
03:57:24PM HOW MUCH BETTER DO YOU WANT TO MARKET IT.
03:57:27PM THE POINT IS, WE CAN MOVE THIS MARKET FORWARD WOULDN'T
03:57:32PM TAXPAYER MONEY ON INTEREST.
03:57:33PM I LEARNED AS I WAS GETTING OLDER.
03:57:35PM WHEN I WAS 18, PUT IT ON THE CONCORD.
03:57:37PM I HAD A 300 CREDIT UNIT.
03:57:39PM 28% FOR 26% INTEREST RATED.
03:57:42PM YOU WOULD THINK I PAY YOU IT LATER.
03:57:45PM $300, MINIMUM PAYMENTS 400 TODAY 500.
03:57:50PM NOW TALKING $30 MILLION, 40 MILLION.
03:57:53PM MONEY WASTED.
03:57:55PM MAKING THE BANKS RICH.
03:57:56PM IT IS OKAY.
03:57:58PM YOU CAN HAVE DEBT.
03:57:59PM EVERYBODY CAN HAVE DEBT.
03:58:00PM I DON'T.
03:58:00PM JUST A MORTGAGE.
03:58:01PM BUT I WANT TO BE SMART WITH THE TAXPAYER MONEY AND SAY IF
03:58:06PM THIS IS OF TOP PRIORITY.
03:58:09PM THE MAYOR IS A FORMER POLICE CHIEF.
03:58:11PM YOU HAVE AN EXISTING FORMER POLICE CHIEF.
03:58:15PM I HAVE THE CONDITIONS THAN WHAT IS SEEN ON THE SEVENTH
03:58:18PM FLOOR.
03:58:19PM LET'S BE SMART WITH THE MONEY.
03:58:21PM HAVING TO BOND EVERYTHING AT THE END OF THE DAY, THANK YOU.
03:58:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN IF I CAN PULL THAT THREAD A LITTLE
03:58:29PM BIT MORE.
03:58:29PM IT IS MONDAY EYE LIST TO SEND YOU THE CATEGORIES FORE
03:58:34PM THE CIT VERSION TWO.
03:58:34PM AS I SAID SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING A~ AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC
03:58:38PM SAFETY.
03:58:38PM SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.
03:58:42PM FOR MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION.
03:58:44PM IN MY VIEW, IT COMES DOWN TO PRIORITIZATION.
03:58:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU SEND US THE ESTIMATED
03:58:57PM TABLE WHEN THE INVESTMENT COMES IN.
03:59:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SURE.
03:59:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:59:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: STILL IN ON PUBLIC SAFETY BUT NOT ABOUT THAT
03:59:07PM BUILDING.
03:59:07PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA MENTIONED THE GUNS.
03:59:10PM AND I SAW THE STORY -- I TALKED TO PBA.
03:59:15PM IT SEEMS APPARENT THAT YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THEM.
03:59:17PM DO OFF BUDGET YET INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AND SOMETHING
03:59:20PM EXTRA?
03:59:21PM HOW MUCH WILL IT BE.
03:59:22PM >>LEE BERCAW: SOMETHING TO WORK ON.
03:59:23PM FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME ANY TIME SOON.
03:59:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO OFF BALLPARK.
03:59:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN FOR US.
03:59:32PM >>LEE BERCAW: CHIEF LEE BERCAW.
03:59:35PM SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN EVALUATING.
03:59:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A PLACEHOLDER IN THE BUDGET.
03:59:40PM >>LEE BERCAW: SOMETHING WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CFO.
03:59:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:59:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE C.I.T. IS $850 MILLION.
03:59:55PM I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, $850.
04:00:01PM THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC AND ANNOUNCED WHEN THEY WROTE
04:00:04PM THE ARTICLE OF PUBLIC FACILITIES.
04:00:07PM YOU CAN'T WALK IN THE FACILITIES ON GAME DAY IN ANY ONE OF
04:00:10PM THEM.
04:00:10PM BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ARREST YOU WHEN THEY KALE
04:00:15PM YOU.
04:00:16PM DON'T HAVE A TICKET.
04:00:17PM AND THIS YOU CAN GO INTO.
04:00:22PM AND NOW ONE OF THESE.
04:00:23PM TRY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
04:00:25PM AND I APPLAUD THE OWNER OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS OF WHAT THEY
04:00:32PM CAN DOCK WITH THEIR BUSINESS.
04:00:33PM WE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO YOU DO WHAT WE DID AND ONLY WON BY
04:00:37PM 2%.
04:00:38PM IF THE PUBLIC REALLY KNEW THE FACTS, IF THERE IS 2 MILLION
04:00:43PM THAT THE SPORTS AUTHORITY WORKS FOR PROMOTE THEMSELVES AND
04:00:46PM HAVE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT TO DO.
04:00:48PM ALL THAT MONEY WHEN YOU BROUGHT TAYLOR SWIFT AND ALL THAT,
04:00:53PM $2 MILLION OF FIRST EARNINGS OF THAT YEAR GOLF TO THE OWNERS
04:01:00PM AND NOT THE TAXPAYERS.
04:01:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, CAN YOU STAY
04:01:04PM FOCUSED.
04:01:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY BROUGHT IT UP.
04:01:06PM ANYWAY, I WILL STOP AND IN YOUR REFERENCE, MAKE SURE YOU
04:01:11PM LIVE TO 30 YEARS SO I CAN HARASS YOU LONGER.
04:01:14PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:01:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL MEAT IN THE OLD FOLKS HOME.
04:01:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:01:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION OF THE GUNS BECAUSE I READ
04:01:21PM ABOUT THAT TOO.
04:01:22PM ANY WAY THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE ANY FEDERAL DISCUSSION OF HOW
04:01:31PM THIS REPLACE NOSE.
04:01:33PM >>LEE BERCAW: NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.
04:01:35PM WE SPOKE TO REPRESENTATIVE DANNY ALVAREZ AND EXPRESSED THAT
04:01:41PM CONCERN TO HIM WITHOUT FINDING AN ISSUE YOU WITH A FUNDING
04:01:44PM SOURCE.
04:01:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT IS INTERESTING TO KNOW.
04:01:47PM MIGHT CAN SOMETHING THAT WE GET SOME ASSISTANCE WITH AS
04:01:51PM WELL.
04:01:51PM >> I SPOKE REPRESENTATIVE ALVAREZ OF STATE OF GRANTS
04:01:54PM POSSIBLY TOO.
04:01:55PM BUT A SUBJECT FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION IN WE WILL FIGURE OUT
04:01:59PM WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, RIGHT.
04:02:00PM SO CHIEF, SINCE YOU ARE COMING BACK ON THURSDAY, I STILL
04:02:06PM THINK YOU SHOULD AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND THIS UP NOW.
04:02:10PM >>LEE BERCAW: I JUST WANT TOLLED SAY THIS.
04:02:11PM FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE ALL TALKING OF BEING MAD.
04:02:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN.
04:02:20PM >>LEE BERCAW: LEE BERCAW.
04:02:22PM I AM UPSET.
04:02:23PM HEAD OF AN ORGANIZATION TO REDUCE CRIME AND INCREASE
04:02:27PM STAFFING OF ANY CHIEF IN HISTORY AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD AND
04:02:32PM I'M HERE PRESSING SOMETHING AT THE BENEFIT OF OUR TAXPAYER
04:02:36PM DOLLARS.
04:02:36PM SOMETHING WE NEED, AND FOR ME TO BE INFERRED THERE ARE IS A
04:02:39PM GAME AND I'M HERE TO WIN IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY
04:02:42PM DISRESPECTFUL TO ME AND THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.
04:02:44PM I'M HERE BECAUSE IT IS A NEED AND IT IS FOR THE RIGHT REASON
04:02:48PM AND THE ONLY REASONABLE I'M HERE.
04:02:49PM I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.
04:02:51PM BECAUSE IMPLIED TO ME THAT THIS WAS GAME.
04:02:54PM AND FOR THEIR TO BE BROUGHT UP LIKE IS COMPLETELY
04:02:57PM DISRESPECTFUL NOT ONLY TO ME AND THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.
04:03:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: SAID THE ADMINISTRATION AND NOT YOU.
04:03:05PM >>LEE BERCAW: I AM THE ADMINISTRATION.
04:03:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO
04:03:11PM SUPPORT YOU AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THE THINGS
04:03:13PM DONE ARE COMPLIANTLY UNETHICAL.
04:03:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:03:16PM IS THAT IS IT?
04:03:19PM >>LEE BERCAW: YES.
04:03:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:03:21PM WE CAN MOVE ON AND DISCUSS FIRE OR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND
04:03:27PM 56 MINUTES AND WE WILL BE LOSING A COUNCIL PERSON AT
04:03:31PM 4:30, FYI.
04:03:32PM FIRE?
04:03:33PM FIRE?
04:03:34PM OKAY, FIRE.
04:03:35PM GO TO ANOTHER NONCONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT.
04:03:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BEGIN WITH FIRE.
04:03:45PM AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL, AND CHIEF TRIPP.
04:03:48PM I HOPE YOU ARE WELL.
04:03:50PM I SEE WALTER HERE AND OTHERS.
04:03:51PM I AM GOING TO SAY THIS.
04:03:54PM AND I SAID THIS EVERY BUDGET JUST BECAUSE I AM A BROKEN
04:03:57PM RECORD ON CERTAIN THINGS WHICH IS, I REALLY WISH.
04:04:03PM I AM A BROKEN RECORD ON A LOT OF THINGS.
04:04:05PM I REALLY WISH THIS BUDGET.
04:04:07PM I LOOK BACK AT THE LAST FEW YEARS.
04:04:09PM AND ON DOWNTOWN FIRE AND MAKING ADVANCEMENTS THERE.
04:04:16PM OBVIOUSLY STATION 24.
04:04:18PM I WISHED AT THIS TIME WE COULD HAVE BUILT ANOTHER AT LEAST
04:04:22PM ONE FIRE STATION.
04:04:26PM I REALLY FEEL WE HAVE THEY NEWS AND SO FORTH.
04:04:29PM THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
04:04:30PM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, CHIEF TRIPP.
04:04:33PM AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
04:04:34PM ON FLEET MAINTENANCE, I SAW THE TIMELINE FOR THAT AND
04:04:40PM EVERYTHING.
04:04:41PM HOW LONG -- HOW LONG ALSO THAT TAKE.
04:04:44PM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FLEET MAINTENANCE IS BAKED INTO THE
04:04:49PM EXPANSION OF STATION NINE WITH HELPING OUT GROWING WEST
04:04:52PM TAMPA.
04:04:53PM SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TIMELINE FOR THIS.
04:04:55PM BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PROPERTY PROPERTY, CORRECT?
04:05:02PM WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TIMELINE.
04:05:04PM TRIPP CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE RESCUE.
04:05:06PM LAST I HEARD ASSESSMENT WAS ONGOING AND I DON'T KNOW THE
04:05:10PM FINAL WORD IF WE HAVE THE PROPERTY OR NOT.
04:05:12PM PROPERTY WESTERN LOOKING AT BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE
04:05:15PM IT IS FEASIBILITY FOR WHAT IS NEED.
04:05:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, YEAH.
04:05:20PM BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING -- WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF
04:05:24PM OR ANOTHER YEAR -- I POTENTIALLY DON'T BUT OTHER FOLKS DO.
04:05:29PM SOMETHING THAT I REALLY THINK WE CAN MAKE GREAT LEAPS ON
04:05:32PM BEFORE WE LEAVE HERE FROM THIS COUNCIL AND THIS
04:05:35PM ADMINISTRATION THAT WAS STATION 24 COULD BE A GOOD MOVE FOR
04:05:41PM TAMPA FIRE AROUND THINGS WE CAN BE PROUD OF THINK.
04:05:49PM THE BUDGET PRESENTATION OF REFURBISHING AND FIRE STATIONS IN
04:05:52PM TERMS OF -- SOME FOLKS SAY BUILD MORE FIRE STATIONS.
04:05:55PM LET'S -- LET'S GET TO THE ONES WE ALREADY HAVE UP TO LEVEL
04:06:00PM SO TO SPEAK.
04:06:00PM I THINK WE CAN DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, BUT DOES THIS
04:06:03PM BUDGET DO FOR THAT, IF I MAY INQUIRE.
04:06:11PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: ONE THING I WANT TO SAY SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN
04:06:14PM THE POSITION.
04:06:14PM SOME OF THE CHALLENGES.
04:06:19PM AND THE STATIONS ARE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE
04:06:23PM CITY OF TAMPA.
04:06:24PM WE CAN'T PUNT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BECAUSE THEY ARE SMALL.
04:06:27PM AND BACK IN THE DAY HE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND BUILT IN 1958.
04:06:33PM WE HAVE EIGHT OR NINE OF THOSE STATIONS.
04:06:37PM YOU HAVE A FIRE TRUCK IN THERE.
04:06:39PM NOW WE ARE TRYING TO PUT ADDITIONAL RESCUE CAR IN THERE.
04:06:44PM STATION NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN AND REBUILT AND ADDED TO APPLY
04:06:48PM THOSE RESOURCES.
04:06:49PM WITH THAT, YOU CAN DETERMINE WHERE THE NEEDS ARE AND RESPOND
04:06:54PM WITH THE COMMUNITY PROVIDE WHAT WE NEED AND WE CAN'T JUST
04:06:58PM PUT.
04:06:59PM STATION 10 I WILL USE IN EAST TAMPA.
04:07:01PM ONE STATION BAY.
04:07:03PM BULL I AM ALLOW ACE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO PUT FOR IT TO
04:07:08PM HELP OUT LOCATION AND NOT IN NOT IN THE STATION.
04:07:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: PERFECT.
04:07:19PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
04:07:20PM I HAVE A BUNCH OF OTHER QUESTIONS ON THINGS INVOLVING FIRE,
04:07:23PM BUT NONE AT THIS TIME, I BELIEVE, ON THE BUDGET, I DON'T
04:07:28PM BELIEVE I DO.
04:07:29PM I WILL THINK ABOUT IT.
04:07:30PM THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
04:07:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ASK THE EXACT SAME THING I ASKED THE
04:07:38PM BLESS.
04:07:39PM IT LOOKS LIKE HERE, WE ARE DOING FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND
04:07:44PM U.S. SUPPLY SHOP.
04:07:45PM $7.5 MILLION FOR THE POTENTIAL DEBT ISSUES AND $40 MILLION
04:07:50PM ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.
04:07:52PM CAN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IS GOING INTO THAT.
04:07:56PM AND DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD SOMETHING AND ADDED TO
04:08:01PM IT AS WE GO.
04:08:02PM WHAT ARE WE PUTTING INTO -- I SORT OF AND STAND THAT THE
04:08:08PM SPECIALIZATION FOR SOME OF THE POLICE THINGS, THE EVIDENCE
04:08:11PM THAT HAVE -- BUT ARE WE DOING WITH $40 MILLION?
04:08:16PM IS IT JUST SUPPLY?
04:08:18PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: HAS BEEN A LOT OF ADDITIONAL CHANGES WHEN IT
04:08:21PM CAME TO THE FLEET SUPPLY BUILDING.
04:08:28PM LOOK AT ADDITIONAL FACILITIES AND WE ARE WAITING FOR THIS
04:08:31PM ASSESSMENT TO COME THROUGH OF WHAT IS ON THE PROPERTY.
04:08:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY OTHER FACILITIES?
04:08:38PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THE SUPPLY BUILDING AS WELL AND SEE IF WE CAN
04:08:41PM PUT ADDITIONAL -- YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO -- PRETTY MUCH A
04:08:47PM PUBLIC SAFETY.
04:08:47PM LAST I HEARD LIKE A PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.
04:08:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT JUST GOING TO BE FOR FIRE?
04:08:55PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: WHAT IS THE LATEST UPDATE?
04:08:58PM BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE LATEST UPDATE.
04:09:00PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: ADRI COLINA, DIRECTOR OF ASSET MANAGEMENT.
04:09:05PM PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THE SITE ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE WILL BE
04:09:09PM A FLEET FACILITY SERVICING THE FELT.
04:09:11PM WE MAY SERVICE VEHICLES IN THAT AREA.
04:09:16PM STORAGE AS CHIEF TRIP MENTIONED BECAUSE SHE HAS STORAGE
04:09:22PM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
04:09:22PM AND TO HAVE IT CENTRALIZED.
04:09:24PM WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SITE TO SEE IF THE SITE CAN
04:09:27PM ACCOMMODATE THAT.
04:09:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT ONLY FIRE.
04:09:30PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: NOT NECESSARILY.
04:09:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD BE INTERESTING IN KNOWING IF WE ARE
04:09:36PM ONLY PUTTING FIRE, THAT WOULD COST.
04:09:38PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: LOOK CAN AT WHAT THE SITE CAN ACCOMMODATE.
04:09:45PM IF IT IS STRICTLY FIRE, WE WILL KNOW THAT ANSWER.
04:09:49PM ACCOMMODATE OTHER NEEDS THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE, THEN WE WILL
04:09:51PM LOOK AT THAT.
04:09:52PM CURRENTLY WE ARE LOOKING AT SITE TO SEE WHAT THE SITE CAN
04:09:57PM ACCOMMODATE.
04:09:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY BOT FOR MONEY FOR THE
04:10:05PM DEPARTMENT FOR FIRE.
04:10:06PM AT THE TIME WE PURCHASED THIS LAND, CHIEF TRIPP TOLD US IT
04:10:09PM WASN'T EVEN ENOUGH LAND THAT SHE WANTED.
04:10:12PM OR THAT SHE NEEDED.
04:10:14PM SHE ASKED FOR TEN ACRES, AND ABLE IT IS ONLY SEVEN.
04:10:18PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: SIX.
04:10:21PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: SIX.
04:10:22PM HOWEVER, TO BE CLEAR, WHEN WE SAY A FLEET PLATE NANCE
04:10:26PM FACILITY.
04:10:27PM THAT A LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT FUNCTION AND WE
04:10:31PM SERVICE FIRE.
04:10:31PM ALREADY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TALK CAN TWO DEPARTMENTS.
04:10:34PM TO TELL YOU IT WILL BE EXCLUSIVELY FIRE, I CAN'T TELL THAT
04:10:39PM YOU.
04:10:39PM IF FLEET MAINTENANCE IS HERE ALREADY TWO DEPARTMENTS.
04:10:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE FOCUS WILL BE FLEET MAINTENANCE FOR FIRE
04:10:48PM TRUCKS.
04:10:48PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: CORRECT.
04:10:50PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO TURN AWAY A POLICE VEHICLE OR ANOTHER
04:10:56PM VEHICLE THAT WE CAN SERVICE.
04:10:57PM WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.
04:10:58PM IF WE ARE ABLE TO SERVICE ANOTHER VEHICLE.
04:11:05PM WE WANT TO SERVICE OUR VEHICLES EFFECTIVELY AND DO THAT AS
04:11:09PM BEST AS POSSIBLE.
04:11:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO WE DO THAT ALREADY?
04:11:12PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: OUR FLEET SITE IS SERVICING FIRE.
04:11:15PM WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE CAN'T SUFFICIENTLY SERVICE THEM.
04:11:19PM IT IS TOO SMALL.
04:11:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TALK YOU HAVE OUR HANNA CITY.
04:11:26PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YES, WE DO.
04:11:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT WE WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD COMING
04:11:30PM FORWARD WITH THE POTENTIAL DEBT ISSUANCE IS WHAT WE CAN DO
04:11:34PM IN STAGES.
04:11:36PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: RIGHT.
04:11:38PM AND WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO IN STAGES.
04:11:42PM AND HOW MUCH OF IT REALLY DOES NOT NEED TO OCCUR RIGHT NOW.
04:11:46PM THINGS WE WOULD LOVE TO DO DOWN THE LINE AND WE ARE HERE
04:11:49PM TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
04:11:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
04:11:51PM GOES ALONG WITH WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO SAID OF FOCUS
04:11:55PM ON C.I.T. MONEY.
04:11:57PM BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT IS IMPORTANT JUST AS -- JUST AS
04:12:02PM THE EVIDENCE FACILITY IS IMPORTANT.
04:12:03PM WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO NOW VERSES WAS WE CAN HOLD OFF ON,
04:12:10PM ESPECIALLY FOR BONDING UNTIL THE C.I.T. MONEY COMES FORWARD
04:12:19PM BIGGER DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
04:12:21PM IF YOU DON'T SAY NO, FOUND A BETTER WAY TO FINANCE.
04:12:24PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE THING FOR THE
04:12:27PM RECORD.
04:12:27PM THE PROMPT ON HILLSBOROUGH, WE HAVE NOT YET EVEN PURCHASED.
04:12:31PM PART OF THE ASSESSMENT THAT IS OCCURRING IS TO SEE IF IT IS
04:12:34PM AS FEASIBLE SITE AND IF IT WILL WORK AND THAT WILL NOT OCCUR
04:12:39PM UNTIL -- CLOSE ALSO NOT OCCUR UNTIL SEPTEMBER, IF IN FACT,
04:12:43PM WE MOVE FORWARD.
04:12:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, WE -- I REMEMBER, WE -- WE AGREED ON
04:12:47PM THE CONTRACT.
04:12:48PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: CORRECT.
04:12:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE STILL IN THE DUE DILIGENCE PHASE.
04:12:53PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: CORRECT.
04:12:55PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT.
04:12:59PM THANKS, ADRI.
04:13:02PM WE ARE IN THE LAST EXTENSION OF THAT TIME.
04:13:03PM WE NEED TO CLOSE COMING UP WITH THE HOLIDAY, LABOR DAY, WE
04:13:07PM ARE WORKING ON THAT.
04:13:08PM AS PART OF THIS AND PART OF OUR ACQUISITION, WE HAVE BEEN
04:13:11PM WORKING TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY TOE PERFORM A FEASIBILITY STUD
04:13:15PM EVIDENCE OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN PUT
04:13:18PM THERE.
04:13:18PM AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
04:13:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
04:13:23PM ONE MORE QUESTION, MISS FEELEY.
04:13:26PM WILL THAT COME TO US.
04:13:28PM WILL THE FEASIBILITY STUDY COME TO US BEFORE WE SIGN THE
04:13:34PM CHECK PER SE TO BUY IT?
04:13:41PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
04:13:42PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE DONE THIS ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
04:13:46PM AS YOU MIGHT RECALL IN TERMS, IT WASN'T IN THE MARKET AND
04:13:50PM LOOKING AT SOMETHING AT A MINIMUM OF FIVE ACRES FOR THE
04:13:54PM FACILITY.
04:13:54PM AND ONCE WE GOT THIS UNDER CONTRACT.
04:13:56PM WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT -- THAT WHAT WE NEED IT FOR WE
04:14:01PM COULD BUILD.
04:14:02PM AND GIVEN THE TIME FRAME.
04:14:08PM I AM THINKING ON THE FLY THE TIME FRAME OF WHERE WE ARE AND
04:14:13PM NEED A CLOSING.
04:14:14PM OUR TARGET CLOSE SOMETHING JULY 25.
04:14:18PM WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING WE CLOSED ON IT AND OWNED IT.
04:14:22PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RECORD WAS CLEAR FOR THAT.
04:14:24PM WILL WE BRING BACK THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
04:14:27PM SOMETHING I WILL HAVE TO SPEAK WITH OUR TEAM ON AND FIGURE
04:14:30PM OUT, YOU KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT.
04:14:32PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD LET THE PROPERTY GO EITHER WAY.
04:14:34PM I WANT TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
04:14:37PM KIND OF LIKE WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS SAYING EARLIER.
04:14:42PM WE ARE ALWAYS WORKING ON THE PROPERTIES.
04:14:44PM WE DON'T NECESSARILY DISCLOSE THAT BECAUSE IT PUTS US AT
04:14:49PM DISADVANTAGE WHEN WE GO TO THE TABLE.
04:14:50PM WHEN SOMEBODY IN THE FREE MARKET KNOWS WE ARE DOING THAT
04:14:54PM TOO.
04:14:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT, AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF OWNING THIS
04:14:57PM PROPERTY.
04:14:57PM IF WE BUY THIS PROPERTY AND THEN IT CAN'T BE USED FOR THIS.
04:15:05PM STARTING THIS AND GROUND ZERO.
04:15:07PM THAT IS MY CONCERN.
04:15:08PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, WE ARE HAVING AN INTERNAL MEETING TO
04:15:13PM TALK OF THE FEASIBILITY.
04:15:14PM I THINK WE CAN DO THE FLEET FACILITY FOR FIRE.
04:15:18PM THE QUESTION WAS, HOW CAN WE MOST EFFICIENTLY USE THE LAND
04:15:22PM TO FILL SOME OF OUR OTHER NEEDS AS WELL.
04:15:24PM LOOKING AT IT TO DO THE FLEET FIRE AND LEFT OVER SPACE AND
04:15:31PM OTHER UNUSED SPACE.
04:15:32PM WHAT TO USE THAT FOR TO MAKE IT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR
04:15:36PM THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
04:15:38PM I BELIEVE THAT IS WHERE THE CONVERSATION IS.
04:15:40PM IF WE DEEMED IT NOT FEASIBILITY, CORRECT, WE WOULDN'T CLOSE
04:15:44PM ON IT.
04:15:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO, AGAIN, THAT IS WHERE I THINK THIS COUNCIL
04:15:49PM BY AND LARGE.
04:15:50PM YOU HEARD US EARLIER TODAY, THE CONCERN OF MAKING SURE THAT
04:15:54PM WHEN WE SAY THAT -- THAT WE ARE FOCUS AND THIS.
04:15:59PM IF YOU ARE ADDED SOMETHING TO THIS.
04:16:01PM ARE WE OVER AND ABOVE BECAUSE I THINK $40 MILLION IS A LOT
04:16:08PM OF MONEY.
04:16:08PM ITS $20 MILLION OR MORE WE CAN PUT SOMETHING ELSE ON IT.
04:16:13PM WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY AND KEEPS BRINGING IT BACK
04:16:16PM UP TO US OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
04:16:18PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND
04:16:27PM MOBILITY.
04:16:27PM THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME CHIME IN QUICKLY.
04:16:30PM TO CLEAR UP THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
04:16:33PM ASSESSING THIS PROPERTY FOR PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE FLEET
04:16:37PM FIRE FACILITY.
04:16:37PM WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL SPACE
04:16:41PM AVAILABLE, WHAT ELSE CAN WE PUT ON THE PROPERTY TO MAXIMIZE
04:16:44PM THE BEST USE THE PROPERTY.
04:16:45PM THE HIGHER AND BEST USE.
04:16:48PM WE WILL NOT PURCHASE THE PROPERTY IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
04:16:52PM FOR THAT INTENDED PURPOSE.
04:16:54PM THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS IF WE DECIDE TO PURCHASE
04:16:58PM THE PROPERTY, OF COURSE THE CONTRACT WILL COME BEFORE YOU.
04:17:00PM I AM SURE WE WILL CERTAINLY BRIEF YOU ON OUR DECISION TO
04:17:04PM WANT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, HOW THE ASSESSMENT LED US TO
04:17:07PM THIS GOOD DECISION.
04:17:08PM BUT THE OTHER THING IS, ONCE WE PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, WE
04:17:12PM STILL HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGE AND
04:17:15PM THE RFQ TO GO OUT ON THE STREET.
04:17:18PM WE WOULDN'T CAN DOING THAT FOR SIX MONTHS AND THE DESIGN
04:17:22PM WOULD POTENTIALLY START AT THIS POINTS WHICH WILL TAKE ABOUT
04:17:25PM A YEAR AND CONSTRUCTION ABOUT A YEAR.
04:17:28PM SO JUST SHARING THIS TO GET A SENSE OF TIMING.
04:17:31PM TALKING OF FY '26 BUDGET.
04:17:34PM DOLLARS IN FY '26 BUDGET.
04:17:37PM OUT THERE IN TERMS OF TEAMING, WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT
04:17:41PM NUMBERS YET.
04:17:42PM $40 MILLION IS A VERY BALL PARKER NUMBER RIGHT NOW AND
04:17:46PM HONING THAT DOWN WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICITY, AND I
04:17:51PM WANT SHARE THAT WITH THE HOPE OF YOUR DECISION MAKING OF THE
04:17:57PM TIMING OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
04:17:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY REASON I AM ASKING IT ON THE CHART
04:18:01PM FOR DEBT.
04:18:03PM TODAY TALKING OF DEBT, AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE SITUATION.
04:18:06PM AND A LOT MORE GOING FORWARD AND USING THAT 40 MILLION
04:18:10PM NONCONFORM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS GIVEN TO US.
04:18:15PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THE BALLPARK TO HAVE THE MONIES COMING IN SO
04:18:19PM WE GET THE BALL RUNNING AND AVAILABLE TO WORK THE PROJECT
04:18:22PM WITH.
04:18:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY.
04:18:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: APPROPRIATE CONVERSATION.
04:18:29PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:18:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: CLOSING UP ON MY STUFF.
04:18:32PM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
04:18:33PM IF THIS ONE FALLS THROUGH, CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN MENTIONED
04:18:39PM LOOKING OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS.
04:18:40PM NORTH TAMPA, A LOT IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA AND SO FORTH.
04:18:44PM GOD FORBID.
04:18:46PM TELL YOU WHAT, IF IT SOMEHOW FALLS THROUGH, LET US KNOW
04:18:50PM BECAUSE THAT IS OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT.
04:18:52PM A BIG DISCUSSION TO HAVE HERE THAT JUST BRIEFLY FOR THE
04:18:55PM PUBLIC IS, WE ARE TALKING OF POLICE AND FIRE AND GUESS WHAT
04:19:00PM HAPPENS WITH THAT, PROPERTY TAXES.
04:19:01PM SOMETHING THAT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW.
04:19:04PM PROPERTY TAXES.
04:19:05PM PEOPLE SAY GET RID OF PROPERTY TAXES.
04:19:09PM MY POSITION ON THAT HAS BEEN MEND IT.
04:19:11PM DON'T INLAND IT.
04:19:13PM AN EXEMPTION HOLD.
04:19:16PM TAMPA AND EVERYWHERE IF WE GET RID OF PROPERTY TAXES.
04:19:25PM A METHOD BY WHICH WE FUND THE GLUE THAT HOLD OUR CITIES AND
04:19:29PM OUR COMMUNITIES TOGETHER.
04:19:30PM I DID WANT TO SAY THAT.
04:19:33PM I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT WE DO NEED ADDITIONAL -- SOME
04:19:38PM SORT OF A REVENUE.
04:19:39PM DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
04:19:42PM THESE AUTO ITEMS I TRIED TO GET UNDER A VERY LIMITED REVENUE
04:19:46PM SOURCE OF $3 A MONTH FOR FOLKS THAT DIDN'T PASS.
04:19:49PM THAT IS FINE.
04:19:50PM I THINK THE REASON IT DIDN'T PASS BY THE WAY IS BECAUSE THE
04:19:53PM WELL WAS POISONED WITH A HUGE TAX INCREASE, 15% TO 16%.
04:19:58PM TRY TO NARROW IT DOWN FOR POLICE AND FIRE, THAT WELL HAVE
04:20:01PM BEEN MOTIONED, THE WAY IT IS.
04:20:03PM I CAN RESPECT THAT.
04:20:04PM BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE ON
04:20:07PM DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCES FOR POLICE AND FOR FIRE.
04:20:11PM AND WE ALL KNOW THE PUBLIC.
04:20:13PM AND MY KNOWING OF THE PUBLIC, PEOPLE DON'T MIND PAY AN EXTRA
04:20:18PM $2 OR $3 IF IT MEANS FIRE FIGHTERS ARE GOING TO HAVE GOOD
04:20:21PM STATIONS -- MORE COPS ON THE STREETS THAT WE CAN READILY
04:20:25PM PURCHASE GUNS FOR COMES, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
04:20:27PM I REALLY, REALLY BELIEVE THAT.
04:20:29PM PEOPLE ARE VERY SUSPICIOUS OF TAXES.
04:20:33PM PEOPLE ARE UNDER FINANCIAL DURESS, ETC.
04:20:36PM IF PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEIR TAX DOLLARS ALSO GO TO THINGS LIKE
04:20:40PM THAT, THEY ARE ALL FOR IT ESPECIALLY FOR THE FIRE FIGHTERS
04:20:43PM AND THE COPS.
04:20:43PM I BELIEVE THAT WITH ALL MY HEART.
04:20:46PM THAT'S WHY I TRY TO DO THAT.
04:20:48PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
04:20:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:20:51PM ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT FIRE?
04:20:53PM THANK YOU.
04:20:54PM AGAIN, I THINKING THIS IS A GOOD BUDGET REQUEST FOR FIRES.
04:20:59PM IT MET A LOT OF THE NEEDS THAT COUNCIL HAD EXPRESSED AND
04:21:05PM FIGHTING FOR.
04:21:05PM THANK YOU FOR THE BUDGET SUBMISSION.
04:21:07PM OKAY.
04:21:08PM COUNCIL'S DESIRE ON THE SCHEDULE FOR DISCUSSION.
04:21:11PM WE STILL HAVE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
04:21:12PM ANYTHING ELSE?
04:21:13PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:21:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT FIRE, SORRY, CHIEF
04:21:21PM TRIPP.
04:21:21PM DEBT ISSUANCE FOR $20 MILLION FOR STATION 24.
04:21:28PM DOES THAT SEEM STILL LIKE A REASONABLE NUMBER?
04:21:32PM I SEE SOME NODDING IN THE BACK.
04:21:35PM IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO IT.
04:21:37PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IS OUT OF MY LEAGUE.
04:21:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. MUTTERBACK, IF YOU TAKE QUESTION AND THAT
04:21:47PM GOES BACK INTO OTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT OTHER.
04:21:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
04:21:52PM LOOM LIKE YOU PLANNED.
04:21:58PM >> RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
04:22:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE DEBT ISSUANCE FOR THE FUNDING FOR FIRE
04:22:08PM STATION 24?
04:22:09PM >> THEY ARE STILL IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, BUT THOSE NUMBERS
04:22:12PM THAT HAVE BEEN TOSSED AROUND SO FAR, THOSE ESTIMATES ARE
04:22:14PM STILL BELOW $20 MILLION FOR THE GMP, YES.
04:22:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT.
04:22:21PM I KNOW I TALKED TO CHIEF TRIPP OF HAVING TO LOOK AT EVERY
04:22:26PM SINGLE THING AND SEEING EXACT LIBRARY WHAT WE NEED.
04:22:30PM AS PER OUR CONVERSATION.
04:22:31PM WE DON'T HAVE THE ABSOLUTE HIGHEST.
04:22:36PM BETTER AND GOOD AND GREAT, NOT THE EXCELLENT VERSION OF
04:22:40PM THINGS.
04:22:40PM BETWEEN THAT AND I WANTED TO KNOW.
04:22:42PM THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
04:22:43PM THAT IS NOT INCREASING.
04:22:45PM BUT WE ARE -- IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE HAVE SOME MONEY IN THIS
04:22:50PM DEBT ISSUANCE AGAIN STILL FOR THE FIRE STATIONS THAT WE ARE
04:22:54PM ALSO WORKING ON 9, 10, 6 FUTURE.
04:23:03PM >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT CONSTRUCTION SERVICES?
04:23:11PM ANYTHING HAVE I DIDN'T QUESTIONS FROM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
04:23:14PM PICK NEAR ALREADY FROM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES?
04:23:20PM ABBY, OKAY.
04:23:21PM IN YOUR PORTFOLIO.
04:23:23PM WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DON'T DO.
04:23:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T WANT TO BRING IN UP AND RESPECTFUL OF
04:23:37PM THE RULES.
04:23:38PM WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE A MEMO THAT
04:23:44PM IS FORTHCOMING OF ONE ORDINANCE AND FUNDING APPRENTICE
04:23:49PM SHIPS.
04:23:50PM SHOULD I BRING THAT UP NEXT MEETING.
04:23:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK POINTED OUT, ITS
04:24:03PM BUDGET IS HANDED OFF TO US.
04:24:04PM IT IS IN OUR HANDS.
04:24:12PM IF YOU WANT TO SHIFT THAT, GO TO PUBLIC HEARING OF A PLAN
04:24:15PM WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM AND WHERE IT IS GOING.
04:24:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE GOT PREEMPTED.
04:24:32PM WE WERE LUCKY TO HAVE THREE YEARS IF AND LOVELY IN THE STATE
04:24:43PM OF FLORIDA.
04:24:43PM THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE AND FUND APPRENTICESHIP HERE IN
04:25:03PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:25:04PM JUST INTRODUCE IT.
04:25:05PM I AM NOT TALKING OF A HUGE NUMBER.
04:25:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE TO DISCUSS OR MOVE ON NOT
04:25:17PM NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
04:25:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER.
04:25:23PM THERE IS A PLANNING COMMISSION IN MY DISTRICT AND I NEED TO
04:25:26PM MAKE SURE MY KIDS ARE FED BEFORE.
04:25:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT LEAVE A HAMSTER FEEDER UP FOR THEM.
04:25:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
04:25:35PM : THANK YOU.
04:25:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE RESOLUTION THAT WE CAN NOT DO BUSINESS
04:25:39PM ON AND PUBLIC INPUT ON.
04:25:42PM ITEM NUMBER THREE.
04:25:43PM THE STAGE IS YOURS.
04:26:04PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAN I HAVE THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION
04:26:07PM PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE.
04:26:08PM IT IS AT THE END OF THE EXISTING PRESENTATION FOR THOSE IN
04:26:17PM THE ROOM.
04:26:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PAGE 19.
04:26:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAN I HAVE ONE OF THOSE IN CASE.
04:26:42PM MIGHT HAVE TO DO IT OLD SCHOOL.
04:26:44PM WHICH IS FINE, I DON'T MIND -- THERE IT IS.
04:26:46PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:26:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A VERY PRETTY GRAPHIC YOU HAVE THERE.
04:27:07PM MENDENHALL DONALD TRUMP I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE END OF
04:27:11PM THE PRESENTATION.
04:27:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT BUT TONIGHT DID YOU PUSH.
04:27:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: LIKE THE WRONG ONE.
04:27:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE WAITING FOR THE PRESENTATION.
04:27:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ACTUALLY I CAN ELMO.
04:27:33PM CAN I HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION?
04:27:36PM WE CAN ELMO IT.
04:27:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY THE WOLF.
04:27:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT'S RIGHT, WOLF.
04:27:41PM ELMO HAS STICK POWER.
04:27:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW THAT YOU LISA HAS SPOKEN, THIS SHALL
04:27:54PM BE DONE.
04:27:54PM AND GREAT DEAL OF FUNDING AND SPAN A GREAT DEAL OF PROJECTS
04:28:13PM AND NOT ONLY WANTING TO REFRESH ON BE WHAT CITY COUNCIL HAS
04:28:17PM ALREADY AGREED TO FROM A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION ST.
04:28:20PM PATRICK, BUT ALREADY, AGAIN, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING TO
04:28:23PM YOU.
04:28:24PM AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
04:28:26PM I THINK THIS IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM POTENTIALITIES
04:28:30PM ASSOCIATED WITH OTHER REVENUE SOURCES SUCH AS THE COMMUNITY
04:28:33PM INVESTMENT TAX VERSION 2.
04:28:35PM BREAK DOWN OF CATEGORY OF ACCEPTED A AMOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH
04:28:53PM THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.
04:28:55PM HALF OF IT.
04:28:56PM PUBLIC SAFETY.
04:28:57PM I DON'T THINKING THAT IS ANY SURPRISE.
04:28:58PM SIGNIFICANT PORTION FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.
04:29:01PM ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT PORTION FOR MOBILITY AND YOU SEE
04:29:09PM CONVENTION CENTER IN GENERAL.
04:29:11PM I AM STANDING TO THE SIDE.
04:29:12PM CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY?
04:29:14PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
04:29:15PM FIRST YEAR OF THE CIP OF THE ADOPTED.
04:29:26PM SECOND THROUGH THE FIFTH YEAR ARE SIMPLY PROGRAMMING,
04:29:30PM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT IS THE PROJECTS, WHETHER IT IS THE
04:29:33PM REVENUES, WHETHER IT IS THE EXPENDITURES.
04:29:35PM THOSE OF YOU PROBABLY AT HOME WHO MAY NOT KNOW WE CAN ONLY
04:29:39PM APPROPRIATE ONE PARTICULAR YEAR AND THE RATE AND THE
04:29:43PM REMAINING IS OUR BEST ESTIMATED PLAN.
04:29:46PM THE ANNUAL BUDGET ADOPTION, THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION AND YOU
04:29:53PM HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE DEBT PROGRAM AS PART OF THE PROCEEDING
04:29:57PM PRESENTATION.
04:29:57PM ANOTHER REFRESH AND I WON'T GO OVER EVERYTHING.
04:30:07PM BUT ALLOWS US TO SUSPEND FUNDING AND PAY OURSELVES BACK.
04:30:12PM A VERY, VERY GOOD AND RECOMMENDED ACTION IF WE INTEND TO
04:30:17PM ISSUE DEBT FOR THESE EXPENSES.
04:30:19PM THERE WILL BE MANY IN ADDITION TO THE REIMBURSEMENT
04:30:22PM RESOLUTION.
04:30:22PM MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS AND PROVE THESE OPTIONS.
04:30:32PM MONTHLY REPORTS THAT WE PROVIDE BASE AND WHAT IS HAPPENING
04:30:36PM WITH ALL OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS
04:30:39PM AND WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH ALL OF THE DEBT ISSUANCES.
04:30:44PM I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT LAST BULLET.
04:30:47PM WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AND THE PUBLIC A LOOKING THROUGH
04:30:52PM THE CIP OR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OVER THE NEXT
04:30:55PM FIVE YEARS, YOU WILL SEE THE DEBT -- THE ANTICIPATED DEBT
04:31:00PM FINANCING AS JUST THAT, POTENTIAL DEBT FINANCING WHETHER IT
04:31:03PM IS NON-AD VALOREM.
04:31:05PM WHETHER IT WATER, WASTEWATER.
04:31:06PM WHETHER IT IS SOLID WASTE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED WE HAVE NOT
04:31:14PM ISSUED IT YET AND IN CONSIDERATION TO FUND THE PROJECT.
04:31:17PM AGAIN A HILL REFRESH AND COUNCIL HAS SEEN AND HEARD IT
04:31:23PM BEFORE.
04:31:24PM IT IS WORTH REITERATING.
04:31:25PM IT MAKES SURE THAT THE CITY ASK TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TAX
04:31:31PM EARNINGS FINANCING.
04:31:31PM IT IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN TAXABLE FINANCING.
04:31:34PM PREP SERVES ACTIONS FOR THE CITY AND THIS IS LARGELY WHAT WE
04:31:38PM DISCUSSED EARLIER WITH RESPECT TO HOW CAPITAL PROJECTS WILL
04:31:41PM BE FUNDED.
04:31:42PM IT DOES NOT MANDATE THAT DEBT BE ISSUED, BUT IT PUTS BOTH
04:31:47PM COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND THE PUBLIC ON NOTICE THAT IT IS A
04:31:51PM POTENTIALITY AND IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO ISSUER THE DEBT, WE
04:31:56PM CAN PAY OUR 70s BACK FROM WHAT WE ARE SPENDING.
04:31:59PM WE HAVE PROJECT A.
04:32:00PM YOU WANT TO ACCELERATE THE TIME FRAME AND SPEND THE MONEY
04:32:05PM NOW.
04:32:05PM RECOMMENDED AND A BEST PRACTICE FOR A REIMBURSEMENT
04:32:09PM RESOLUTION.
04:32:10PM IF YOU ISSUE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT PROJECT, YOU CAN PAY
04:32:13PM YOURSELF BACK FOR THE FUNDING THAT THE CITY HAS FLOATED
04:32:17PM WHILE YOU AWAIT ISSUANCE OF THE DEBT.
04:32:20PM ALLOW TO YOU START WITHOUT PAYING THE ANNUAL INTEREST AND
04:32:23PM NOT ISSUED THE DEBT AND A REDUCTION IN INTEREST REVENUES AND
04:32:29PM FLOATING THE MONEY SO WE CAN INVEST THAT.
04:32:32PM TYPICALLY IT WILL BE POLICE THAN THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH
04:32:35PM FINANCING AND INTEREST.
04:32:36PM I DON'T WANT TO READ EVERY SINGLE ONE.
04:32:47PM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION PROFITS.
04:32:51PM SOME OF THEM BECAUSE THERE IS A SUBSEQUENT APPROVAL IN
04:32:57PM OCTOBER '22.
04:32:58PM THESE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS WERE APPROVED FOR AN AMOUNT
04:33:03PM NOT TO EXCEED BUILDING.
04:33:20PM JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER,
04:33:26PM THE EAST TAMPA RECREATION COMPLEX.
04:33:28PM THEN IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, WE DID FIRE STATION NUMBER 24
04:33:38PM AND FIRE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY FACILITY.
04:33:41PM NOT TO EXCEED $50 MILLION.
04:33:43PM YES, SIR.
04:33:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY DID THIS SHOW UP IN '22 AND '24?
04:33:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: TWO REASONS.
04:33:52PM ANOTHER REASON -- SOME REPETITIVENESS IN THIS REIMBURSEMENT
04:33:59PM THAT WE PUT AS PART EVER IN AGENDA.
04:34:01PM WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THE PROJECTS TOGETHER UNDER A
04:34:04PM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION EVEN THOUGH COUNCIL HAS ALREADY
04:34:08PM APPROVED SOME OF THEM.
04:34:09PM I HATE TO USE THE WORD "AUDIT TRAIL."
04:34:13PM BUT IT WILL BE VERY OBVIOUS FROM A RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW WHAT
04:34:19PM THE APPROVALS WERE FOR THE PROJECTS.
04:34:20PM SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HUNT AND PECK HEREBY AND HUNT AND PECK
04:34:26PM HERE.
04:34:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE RESOLUTION ADOPTED FEBRUARY 22, '22
04:34:35PM ALREADY INCLUDED FIRE STATION 24 AND THE MAINTENANCE SUN PLY
04:34:40PM SHOP.
04:34:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES IT IS.
04:34:41PM >> 2024 WERE FOR THE EXACT SAME TWO ITEMS.
04:34:45PM NOW BASED ON THIS, IT APPEARS AS THOUGH YOU RAN OUT YOU HAVE
04:34:49PM CAPITAL, BECAUSE THE OTHER WAS CAPPED AT 880.
04:34:52PM AND ADD 50?
04:34:55PM MENDENHALL WE AMENDED THE INITIAL RESOLUTION 22-139.
04:35:02PM YOU CAN SEE THAT IS ALSO -- NO, WE ADDED -- ADDED OR AMENDED
04:35:09PM THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION, FOR INSTANCE.
04:35:12PM YOU HAVE 2022-915.
04:35:15PM AND I AM PRETTY SURE -- SUPPOSED TO BE 2024.
04:35:19PM AND COMBINED, THEY GIVE THE VIEWER COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND
04:35:24PM THE PUBLIC A HOLISTIC VIEW WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR
04:35:28PM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.
04:35:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM JUST CURIOUS WHY -- WHY IT IS THE
04:35:33PM SAME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS LISTED TWICE INSTEAD OF JUST
04:35:37PM SAYING WE WANT TO ADD $50 MILLION TO THE CAPITAL -- BECAUSE
04:35:41PM -- YEAH, I AM --
04:35:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF MEMORY SERVES.
04:35:45PM IT IS BECAUSE WE DID NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO SPEND
04:35:49PM FUNDING.
04:35:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST THE ADDITIONAL $50 MILLION.
04:35:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, IT IS REPETITIVE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR
04:35:57PM ANY CONFUSION.
04:35:58PM HOPEFULLY WE CAN SEE -- WITH COUNCIL APPROVALS THIS.
04:36:02PM A CONTINUOUS CONSISTENT PROJECT LISTING OF WHAT HAS BEEN --
04:36:07PM WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
04:36:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE NEXT ONE DOESN'T HAVE ANY COMPETITIVE
04:36:13PM AS SOON AS.
04:36:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT DOES NOT ON HERE.
04:36:16PM BUT IT DOES WITHIN THE BODY OF THE AGENDA ITEM WE PROVIDED
04:36:20PM SO YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE PROJECTS.
04:36:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: $105 MILLION WILL BE ROLLED INTO THE
04:36:29PM RESOLUTION THAT WE SEE AND ALL THE PROJECTS WILL BE UNDER
04:36:32PM THE ONE RESOLUTION.
04:36:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DIFFERENT RESOLUTION NUMBERS AND UNDER ONE
04:36:40PM PACKAGE.
04:36:41PM ONCE WE BRING A DEBT ISSUANCE WE BRING IN THE PROJECTS.
04:36:47PM CLEAR AUDIT TRAIL AND BY ALL MEANS, I DON'T MEAN TO CONFUSE
04:36:53PM EVERYBODY INCLUDING THE PUBLIC.
04:36:54PM A BROAD-BASED VIEW OF WHAT IS BEING APPROVED FOR
04:36:58PM REIMBURSEMENT.
04:36:59PM I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
04:37:00PM THIS ALLOWS US TO HIGHLIGHT THE PROJECTS THAT RIGHT NOW WE
04:37:03PM CAN'T SPEND MONEY ON, BECAUSE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION HAS
04:37:08PM NOT BEEN APPROVED FOR THE FIRE STATION 6 EXPANSION AND
04:37:11PM PROPERTY ACQUISITION.
04:37:11PM AS OPPOSED TO FIRE STATION 24, WHICH WE CAN FREELY SPEND
04:37:17PM MONEY ON AND ANTICIPATE GETTING REIMBURSED.
04:37:19PM SO IT IS A LITTLE REPETITIVE.
04:37:21PM BUT I THINK FROM A RETROSPECTIVE POINT OF VIEW, IF YOU WERE
04:37:25PM WANTING TO KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN THE -- THE TOTAL REIMBURSEMENT
04:37:29PM RESOLUTION APPROVALS BOTH FOR AMOUNTS AND PROJECTS, YOU WILL
04:37:33PM HAVE IT ALL RIGHT THERE.
04:37:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SINCE WE HAVE ADOPTED THESE TWO
04:37:37PM RESOLUTIONS, THE SECOND RESOLUTION OF FIRE STATION 24 AND
04:37:41PM FIRE MATE NANCE AND SUPPLY OF $50 MILLION.
04:37:43PM THE OTHER WAS $80 MILLION.
04:37:46PM AM I CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT THAT $50 MILLION WITH FIRE
04:37:51PM STATION 24 WITH FIRE MAINTENANCE LIMITED TODAY 50 MILLION.
04:37:54PM AND $80 MILLION WILL BE THE OTHER PROJECTS IN THIS LIST.
04:37:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, AT THAT TIME.
04:38:01PM FOR INSTANCE, LET ME GO BACK TO THE --
04:38:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: $80 MILLION OF BONDING AVAILABLE EXCEPT
04:38:11PM FOR FIRE STATION 24.
04:38:12PM AND $50 MILLION FOR FIRE STATION 24 AND FIRE MATE NANCE
04:38:16PM SUPPLY FACILITY.
04:38:17PM >> NOT -- NOT EXACTLY.
04:38:19PM THIS IS NOT A FINANCING CAPACITY.
04:38:21PM THIS IS A ESTABLISHING AN AMOUNT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SPEND
04:38:26PM AND GET REIMBURSED FOR.
04:38:29PM FOR INSTANCE, FIRE STATION NUMBER 24 AND SUPPLY AND MATE
04:38:32PM NANCE.
04:38:32PM THOSE TWO TOGETHER ARE $60 MILLION.
04:38:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HENCE MY CONFUSION.
04:38:36PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
04:38:38PM BECAUSE A COMPONENT HE THEM ALREADY BEEN INCLUDED IN THE
04:38:43PM PREVIOUS RESOLUTION.
04:38:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPENDING MONEY OUT OF THE THAT $80 MILLION
04:38:47PM TO GET TO YOUR ACHIEVABLE FIGURE FOR CONSTRUCTION.
04:38:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
04:38:51PM I AM SORRY IF I DIDN'T COMMUNICATE THAT.
04:38:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING.
04:38:58PM I WAS CONFUSED.
04:39:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE I THINK THAT WILL HELP PREVENT THE
04:39:05PM CONFUSION, TO PUT THE MONEY KNOWS EACH.
04:39:07PM I WILL ASK TO YOU PUT THAT FORWARD FOR THE RESOLUTION,
04:39:10PM BECAUSE THAT IS AN AREA ARE THAT WE ARE CONFUSED WITH.
04:39:15PM 80 PLUS 50 IS 130.
04:39:18PM BACK DOWN ON THE HAVE THE HE LAST PAGE, YOU SAY IT ADDS THE
04:39:22PM PROJECTS BELOW, TOTALING $105 MILLION.
04:39:25PM THAT DOESN'T -- THOSE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.
04:39:29PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
04:39:31PM WE WILL ITEMIZE THE AMOUNTS.
04:39:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:39:34PM YOU KINDS OF ITEMIZED THEM HERE.
04:39:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DID I NOT JUST GET TO IT?
04:39:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS YOUR INITIAL --
04:39:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IN THIS PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.
04:39:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THE DEBT ISSUANCE NUMBER ONE FROM THE
04:39:51PM PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.
04:39:52PM IS THAT THAT INCLUSIVE OF THIS?
04:39:54PM IS THAT BASICALLY THE SAME THING?
04:39:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS.
04:39:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT TO PULL THOSE UP BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT
04:40:01PM WE ARE LOOKING AT AND WHAT I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL DAY
04:40:04PM TODAY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE REALLY SPENDING MONEY
04:40:07PM ON.
04:40:08PM A WAY TO GET PAGE NUMBER 19.
04:40:10PM AND MAYBE IF THEY CAN'T DO IT IN THE BACK, WE CAN --
04:40:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK WE CAN.
04:40:15PM I WOULD -- BECAUSE I KNOW -- I AM HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT AS
04:40:19PM LONG AS COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
04:40:20PM WHAT WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS PROBABLY THE CLOSEST
04:40:25PM ALLIGATOR TO OUR BOAT IS THESE YOU SEE RIGHT HERE THAT WE DO
04:40:33PM NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO SPEND MONEY ON.
04:40:35PM I AM NOT TRYING TO ACCELERATE EVERYTHING.
04:40:37PM K-BAR RANCH PARK.
04:40:40PM I AM NOT RECOMMENDING TO SPEND MONEY ON IT.
04:40:42PM AND NOT HAVING A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION TO PAY US BACK.
04:40:47PM ONE OF THE PRIMARY GOALS IN THIS PRESENTATION TAX REFRESH
04:40:51PM WITH COUNCIL WHAT YOU ALREADY APPROVED.
04:40:53PM AND THEN THE REMAINING PROJECTS THAT REMAIN UNAPPROVED FROM
04:40:58PM A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION PERSPECTIVE.
04:41:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I WOULD REALLY PREFER IF YOU COULD YOU
04:41:07PM BRING THIS UP SOMEHOW, THIS PARTICULAR --
04:41:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: TALKING TO THE BACK.
04:41:14PM CAN I HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK, THE POWERPOINT, MA'AM?
04:41:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO.
04:41:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE GOVERNMENT --
04:41:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAGAR WAS GOING TO GIVE IT -- NEVER MIND, AT
04:41:35PM THAT T CAME UP.
04:41:36PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, IN THE BACK.
04:41:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY ARE MAGIC.
04:41:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND A DELIGHT.
04:41:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PAGE 19.
04:41:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 1-NINER.
04:41:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS.
04:41:55PM MY PARTICULAR INTEREST IT PAGE 21.
04:41:57PM SAID IT BEFORE.
04:41:59PM ASHLEY UNITED.
04:42:01PM I AM ABSOLUTELY UNITED TO TAKE THAT OFF OF CRA FUNDING
04:42:06PM WHATEVER IT TAKES.
04:42:07PM WE DON'T KNEELED TO BE BONDING FOR IT.
04:42:09PM THE CRA SHOULD PAY FOR IT.
04:42:11PM WORKING INSIDE THE CRA.
04:42:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
04:42:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW.
04:42:19PM APPROVING FOR METROPOLITAN FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS IS.
04:42:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: HE WILL NOTE THAT THE ASHLEY UNITED PROJECT
04:42:24PM HAS NOT BUDGET APPROVED.
04:42:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ON THE LIST.
04:42:28PM BACK TO PAGE 20 THE SULPHUR SPRINGS POORLY RESTRICTIONS ARE.
04:42:33PM I ASKED $3.6 MILLION PART OF THE $1.8 MILLION THAT WILL WE
04:42:38PM ARE APPROVING THURSDAY, AND YOU SAID NO, IT IS NOT.
04:42:42PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I SAID IT COULD BE.
04:42:44PM YOU GATHERED WE DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THIS PROJECT WITH WHAT
04:42:50PM WE NEED TO SPEND.
04:42:50PM $1.8 MILLION, $1 WERE 9 MILLION THAT WILL WE APPROPRIATED
04:42:56PM THAT.
04:42:56PM IT COULD BE A POTENTIALITY AND COULD BE A $5 MILLION.
04:42:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 1.88 MILLION IS PART OF THAT $376 MILLION.
04:43:05PM DINGFELDER DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE 3.6 WILL STAY 3.6.
04:43:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HEARD ADDITION.
04:43:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APOLOGIZE, I MISUNDERSTOOD.
04:43:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: 1.8 AND BUDGET ASK STORE SULPHUR SPRINGS A
04:43:19PM AMENDED BONDED MONEY AND NOT PAY GO?
04:43:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
04:43:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
04:43:26PM TIMES OF THINGS WE NEED TO BE DISCUSSING IN TERMS OF LOOKING
04:43:30PM AT ALL OF THIS.
04:43:31PM IF YOU GO TO THE PAGE BEFORE, PAGE 19, I MEAN, WE ARE
04:43:35PM LOOKING AT BONDING FOR STUFF THAT IS AS CHEAP AS -- AS THE
04:43:40PM FACILITY LIGHTING UPGRADES FOR $880,000.
04:43:43PM I SAY "CHEAP.
04:43:45PM "BUT CHEAP IN A GRAND SCHEME.
04:43:47PM STRUCTURAL REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS.
04:43:49PM THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WORRIES ME ABOUT BONDING.
04:43:52PM AND, YEAH.
04:43:53PM SO -- THIS IS WHY WE NEED --
04:43:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW DO WE BOND A STUDY?
04:44:00PM I MEAN HOW DO -- WHO CAN JUSTIFY BONDING A STUDY?
04:44:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS NOT JUST A STUDY.
04:44:06PM BUT SULFUR SPRINGS IS MORE THAN JUST THAT.
04:44:14PM BUT THERE ARE SOME OF IT THAT AS MUCH THE STUDY.
04:44:18PM THEY ALREADY -- WE PUNT $1 MILLION IN IT THIS YEAR.
04:44:22PM AND I BELIEVE THAT PAID FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE STUDY IF I
04:44:29PM AM CORRECT.
04:44:30PM WE HAVE DONE A SUBSTANTIAL STUDY AND SPENT MONEY ON IT.
04:44:33PM THE $1.8 WILL BE THE BUILDING EVER THE SEAWALL.
04:44:41PM AND COUPLE OF OTHERS THINGS.
04:44:43PM GROUTING, FILLING IN SOME OF THE SPACES.
04:44:47PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND
04:44:53PM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
04:44:53PM YOU ARE CORRECT, THE BULK OF THAT IS THE SEAWALL, WITH THE
04:44:57PM GROUTING, AND FILLING IN THE SPACES, THAT STUDY HELPS US
04:45:00PM UNDERSTAND WHAT IS NEEDED IN THAT YOU -- THAT ASSESSMENT
04:45:04PM STUDY.
04:45:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT ALREADY HAS BEEN A STUDY.
04:45:07PM IT WAS DETERMINED TO FIX THE SEAWALL AND TO FILL IN THESE
04:45:10PM HOLLOWS WITH THE GROUTING AND THEN WE WILL NEED TO DO
04:45:15PM ANOTHER STUDY WHICH WOULD NOT BE BONDED.
04:45:18PM AM I ON THE RIGHT TRACK?
04:45:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
04:45:23PM WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BOND THAT.
04:45:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE STUDY.
04:45:30PM YOU SAY WE ARE BONDING THE WORK.
04:45:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. ROGERO, I KNOW WE STAYED THIS BEFORE
04:45:37PM AND MY STUPIDITY IN PUBLIC FINANCE.
04:45:40PM AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE NEXT CYCLE OF ME SIT IN THE
04:45:45PM STREETS.
04:45:45PM HE NEED THESE THINGS SPELLED OUT CLEARLY AS WE MAKE VOTES.
04:45:50PM WHAT AD I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ENUNCIATED VERY WELL.
04:45:53PM IF YOU WANT TO THIS PROJECT, YOU ARE GOING TO FINANCE THIS
04:45:57PM PROJECT.
04:45:57PM IT IS GOING TO BE BONDED IN A REAL CLEAR -- BROKEN DOWN IN A
04:46:02PM VERY SPECIFIC WAY AND NOT LUMPED IN WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF
04:46:06PM OTHER THINGS.
04:46:06PM YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE TO DO THIS AND DO X, Y, OR Z, IT WILL
04:46:12PM BE PAY GO OR BONDED.
04:46:14PM AND KNOW YOU GUYS ARE FINANCE GUYS AND YOU THINK YOU SAY
04:46:19PM THAT.
04:46:19PM THOSE OF US AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS OR FORMER TEACHER,
04:46:23PM FORMER HORSE RACERS, I MEAN, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE VERY
04:46:28PM SPECIFIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ENUNCIATED TO US WHEN YOU APPROVE
04:46:36PM THIS PROJECT, YOU ARE APPROVING FUNDING FOR THIS.
04:46:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, HE IS NOT HERE NOW BUT
04:46:44PM HE SAID SOMETHING EARLIER THAT I WROTE DOWN.
04:46:47PM SIMPLY LIST IT.
04:46:48PM WE ALWAYS ENDEAVOR TOE DO THAT.
04:46:51PM BUT I APPRECIATING 1998 YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
04:46:53PM WHAT IS SIMPLY LISTED TO US MAY NOT BE SIMPLY LISTED TO THE
04:46:57PM LAYPERSON.
04:46:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BONDING FOR DUMMIES.
04:47:02PM SPELL IT OUT -- NOT FOR LYNN, BUT SPELL IT OUT FOR ME.
04:47:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND AND AGREEING.
04:47:14PM AND THIS IS NOT SIMPLY WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.
04:47:17PM USE THE MONEY WE ALREADY HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS.
04:47:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET THE REIMBURSABLE PART.
04:47:25PM THE KNOW WHAT IT WAS, THE ONE SLIDE WHICH IS THE DECISION
04:47:29PM POINT SLIDE.
04:47:29PM WELL, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DECISION POINTS.
04:47:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE REALLY REASONABILITY, AS WE LEARNED.
04:47:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, EXACTLY.
04:47:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS THE DECISION POINT.
04:47:40PM THIS IS IT.
04:47:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: C.I.P. REALLY A DECISION POINT?
04:47:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS, A CRITICAL DECISION POINT.
04:47:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT A CRITICAL OF HOW IT IS FINANCED.
04:47:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS SAYING WE ARE WILLING TO DO THE PROJECT
04:47:55PM AND EVERYBODY HAS TO READ IT SUPER CAREFUL LEGAL TO DECIDE
04:47:58PM IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO OR POSTPONE IT TO THE
04:48:02PM 27th.
04:48:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO SAY -- I NEED
04:48:09PM TO BUILD A STOP SIGN.
04:48:10PM WE NEED TO BUILD A STOP SIGN AND COST US $1,000 AND WE WILL
04:48:14PM BONDS IT.
04:48:14PM JUST SPELLED OUT AS SIMPLE AS CAN BE OPINION.
04:48:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY ACTUALLY DO IT.
04:48:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW THEY DOE.
04:48:24PM IT IS CONFUSING FOR ME.
04:48:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY PUT IT ON THE SUMMARY SHEET.
04:48:33PM AND I ASKED FOR AND THEY PROVIDE.
04:48:35PM HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT AND IS HE YES.
04:48:38PM NO A STRING OF NUMBERS WHERE IT CAME FROM, BUT WHERE CAN
04:48:42PM TAME FROM AND THE ACTUAL PLACE IT IS COMING IN ENGLISH.
04:48:46PM .
04:48:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT THAT WHEN WE
04:48:54PM TALK OF THESE THINGS, THEY ARE VERBALLY EXPRESSED.
04:48:59PM PAPERS AND NUMBERS.
04:49:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I SEE THAT, EXCEL EN EXAMPLE, COUNCILWOMAN
04:49:05PM HURTAK.
04:49:05PM BUT WE VIEW YOU THIS AS A -- IT MAY SOUND A LITTLE, I DON'T
04:49:09PM KNOW, ULTRAVIOLET, BUT AS PROCESS OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
04:49:12PM IF THERE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING AND MS. COMMUNICATION OF THE
04:49:18PM WAY WE ARE PRESSING THE INFORMATION, THERE ARE SR. WHAT WE
04:49:21PM NEED TO HEAR TO PRESENT IT IN A BETTER WEIGH FOR THE
04:49:26PM LAYPERSON.
04:49:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BACK BEFORE COUNCIL AND A LOT OF CONFUSION
04:49:30PM ON PROJECTS AND WE CONTINUE TIME PROVE -- LIKE YOU SAID A
04:49:34PM CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND DON'T WAKE UP IN SURPRISE
04:49:38PM THAT SAY, GOSH, I WAKE UP AND VOTED FOR THAT AND I DON'T
04:49:42PM BELIEVE I VOTED FOR THAT.
04:49:43PM I DON'T WANT TO THAT COUNCIL PERSON SO SAY I VOTED FOR THAT
04:49:47PM AND UNAWARE THAT I VOTED FOR IT.
04:49:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
04:49:50PM WE WANT YOUR EYES WIDE OPEN TO THE EXTENT THAT SOME OF THESE
04:49:55PM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS BACK LITTLE COMPETITIVE BECAUSE WE
04:49:58PM WANT COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THE WHOLE PICTURE.
04:50:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
04:50:04PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
04:50:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT BRINGS UP A REALLY GOOD POINT.
04:50:09PM NORTHWEST CAPITAL DISCUSSION TODAY AND THAT IS CLAY THOUGHT
04:50:12PM WE WOULD HAVE, A LITTLE MORE CAPITAL DISCUSSION.
04:50:14PM WE HAD SOME, BUT, LIKE, OVERALL, SEEING THE -- IT WILL SHALL
04:50:20PM GREAT TO HAVE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE NEW TO THE CAPITAL
04:50:29PM SECTION --
04:50:30PM >> WE HAVE CAPITAL COMING IN ON THE 11th AT 9 A.M.
04:50:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOTH.
04:50:34PM GENERAL FUND AND OPERATIONS.
04:50:37PM NEXT WEEK IS ENTERPRISE OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL.
04:50:41PM SO I THINK IT WILL BE USEFUL FOR IN ALL OF THESE BUDGET MEET
04:50:45PM TO HAVE A LIST OF THE NEW CAPITAL PROJECTS WOULD YOU LIKE TO
04:50:48PM BRING.
04:50:48PM SO FOR ENTERPRISE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
04:50:51PM FOR GENERAL FUND AS WELL, SORE THAT WAY WE HAVE AN IDEA OF
04:50:55PM WHAT IS COMING AND OBVIOUSLY I SUGGEST READING IT ALL.
04:51:00PM BUT IF NOT, AT LEAST KNOWING WHAT THEY HAVE PROJECTED FOR
04:51:04PM SOMETHING NEW.
04:51:05PM ALSO WITH STORMWATER, WE KIND OF HAVE THOSE DISCUSSION WITH
04:51:08PM STORMWATER ANYWAY OR AT LEAST KIND OF 70 THE TABLE FOR THAT.
04:51:12PM I WOULD REMISS IF I DIDN'T ADDED THAT HERE DOOR.
04:51:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
04:51:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE THE LEARNING CURVES AS CHAIR.
04:51:22PM PAR, A DIME THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME UP AND PITCH THE PROJECTS
04:51:26PM AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION.
04:51:27PM I THINKING THAT PROBABLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WOULD
04:51:31PM PROBABLY WILL BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO CONDUCT THE
04:51:35PM BUSINESS.
04:51:35PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS COME UP AND GIVE
04:51:39PM THE PRESENTATION.
04:51:40PM TALK WHAT THE WANTS, NEEDS AROUND DESIRES AND -- RATHER THAN
04:51:45PM US TAKING SHOTS IN THE DARK.
04:51:46PM WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS I WILL GO HOME AND HAVE HUNDREDS
04:51:52PM QUESTIONS.
04:51:53PM TO BE FULL LEGAL TRANSPARENT AND FULL, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN
04:51:58PM UNDERSTANDING SO WE DON'T WALK AWAY WITH ANY CONFUSION AND
04:52:01PM WILL BE THE BETTER PROCESS HERE.
04:52:02PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:52:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE MORE TOPIC WE WEREN'T ABLE TO
04:52:07PM BRING TODAY AND THAT IS HOUSING.
04:52:10PM AND MISS FEELEY HAS ALREADY LEFT.
04:52:13PM AND MY INTEREST IS YOU ARE CUTTING THE HOUSING BUDGET BY $5
04:52:17PM MILLION, WHERE COVINCINGLY, $5 MILLION MORE IN PAVING.
04:52:22PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT I WOULD
04:52:26PM LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE ANTICIPATE PUTTING -- WHAT IF IT IS AS
04:52:30PM BREAKDOWN OF WHERE WE WANT THAT HOUSING MONEY?
04:52:32PM I CAN LOOK FOR IT, BUT I AM SUPER CONCERNED AS WE GO
04:52:36PM FORWARD.
04:52:36PM AND THINGS AREN'T AS WE SEE MORE LAYOFFS COMING AS MORE
04:52:43PM EXPENSE FOR HOUSING COMES, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
04:52:46PM ANOTHER NEED -- WE STILL -- WE HAVE STILL NOT TOUCHED THE
04:52:51PM NEED FOR HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY, SO IT CONCERNS ME WE ARE
04:52:55PM CUTTING THE BUDGET BY HALF.
04:53:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:53:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BE SENDING OUT A MEMO, BUT PORTICO,
04:53:07PM WONDERFUL METHODIST CHURCH HAS SECULAR ARM.
04:53:11PM NO THOMAS JEFFERSON ISSUES THAT ARE WORKING ON VERY GOOD
04:53:18PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
04:53:19PM AND BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION AND THE CITY
04:53:22PM AND NOT VERY EXPENSIVE WITH #M 90,000 AND $100,000 AND GO
04:53:27PM WITH HELPING PEOPLE THAT WE ALL WANT TO HELP.
04:53:29PM AND WE ALL THE WONDERFUL WORK ON THAT.
04:53:32PM SOME OF A SNEAK PREVIEW, COMING ATTRACTIONS.
04:53:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO CLEAR ITS SCHEDULE, YOU HAVE THIS.
04:53:39PM 25-14353.
04:53:41PM I AM GOING TO ASK THE CLERK AGENCIES OFFICE TO PUT IT AS AN
04:53:49PM ADDENDUM TO THE AUGUST 7 --
04:53:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN THERE ARE WAS CONTINUED FROM THE
04:53:58PM LAST REGULAR MEETING.
04:53:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: JUNE 15 AND MAY 5.
04:54:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION IF TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
04:54:08PM LET ME SHARE TO A CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
04:54:11PM IF YOU, IN EFFECT, WALK IT ON.
04:54:13PM BECAUSE IT THE NOT SET ON THE DRAFT AGENDA THAT WAS ALREADY
04:54:17PM OUT.
04:54:17PM MY UNDERSTANDING.
04:54:18PM SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IT WILL APPEAR ON THE ADDENDUM THAT
04:54:23PM GETS PUNT ON E-MAIL AND GETS POSTED.
04:54:26PM BUT THE BACK-UP MATERIAL WON'T BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
04:54:31PM I DON'T KNOW NOTICE CLERK'S OFFICE IS ABLE TO MAKE IT
04:54:38PM AVAILABLE.
04:54:39PM IN THAT CASE ONLY AVAILABLE FOR A DAY OR TWO.
04:54:42PM ONLY QUESTION FOR COUNCIL.
04:54:43PM UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE IF TIME OF THE EN SENSE, IT
04:54:48PM CAN BE DONE AND BEST PRACTICE WILL BE TO PUT IT ON FOR THE
04:54:52PM 28th AND THAT KICKS IT DOWN THE ROAD SEVERAL WEEKS.
04:54:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
04:55:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOMETHING QUITE CONSEQUENTIAL AND
04:55:04PM EXPENSIVE.
04:55:04PM DO YOU WANT THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THE BACK-UP MATERIAL FOR
04:55:08PM THIS.
04:55:09PM WON'T BE AVAILABLE NUMBER THE 28th.
04:55:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THIS TIME CRITICAL TESTIMONY.
04:55:14PM WILL THE 28 WORK?
04:55:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE 28th WILL WORK.
04:55:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL MAKE SURE IT IS ON THE AUGUST --
04:55:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU WORK THROUGH ON BASE TO GET ON --
04:55:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SUBMIT IT FOR THE 28th AGENDA.
04:55:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU FOR SURFACING THAT.
04:55:33PM WE WANT TO YOU HAVE AND BE COMFORTABLE.
04:55:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE FINISH THE BUSINESS OF THE --
04:55:43PM WILL YOU LIKE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
04:55:46PM WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:55:48PM CHIEF OF STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY?
04:55:52PM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD AFTERNOON, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF
04:55:55PM STAFF.
04:55:55PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MEETING COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC'S
04:55:59PM EXPECTATION ON WHAT WE CALL THE NONMOTION MOTIONS, THINGS
04:56:03PM THAT WERE ASKED FOR, DATA, GRAPHICS.
04:56:05PM ARE WE EXPECTING THOSE TO SHOW UP ON MONDAY SINCE THIS WAS
04:56:08PM THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT SESSION?
04:56:10PM OR AT THE HEARINGS?
04:56:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK TO YOU WORK MISS COPESKY.
04:56:16PM WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH HER.
04:56:17PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YOU WANT THEM SERVE BACK OFFICE OR COME BACK
04:56:22PM TO COUNCIL?
04:56:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK COME OF THOSE WILL COME BACK TO
04:56:25PM COUNCIL, YES.
04:56:26PM I THINK SOME OF THOSE ARE REQUESTED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
04:56:29PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I'M TRYING TO HELP STAFF HAVE A TIMELINE.
04:56:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAD ASK ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT TO KEEP
04:56:35PM TRACK OF IT.
04:56:36PM SO BETWEEN -- BETWEEN MYSELF, MR. SHELBY, MISS COPESKY AND
04:56:41PM MAYBE YOU ALL COMMUNICATING THROUGH, WE CAN ALL WORK THAT
04:56:44PM OUT.
04:56:44PM YOU.
04:56:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL STATE
04:56:50PM ATTORNEY.
04:56:50PM WORKING WITH MISS COPESKY, FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU CAN AND WILL
04:56:54PM BE ABLE TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL THROUGH E-MAIL AND
04:56:56PM DISTRIBUTED IN ADVANCE OF TIME.
04:56:58PM BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS TALKING WITH MR. VASKE, THAT ANY OF
04:57:07PM THESE THAT WILL COME BACK WILL HAVE TO BE RAISED DURING THE
04:57:09PM PUBLIC HEARINGS.
04:57:10PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT WAS MY EXPECTATION AS WELL AS.
04:57:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING IT WILL NOT BE REDISCUSSED
04:57:22PM NEXT WEEK.
04:57:22PM TOTALLY DIFFERENT TOPICS, IS THAT CORRECT?
04:57:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO -- AND THAT IS FINE.
04:57:27PM MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT THAT -- THAT THE INFORMATION IS
04:57:31PM PROVIDED AT LEAST A WEEK BEFORE THE -- BY -- BY E-MAIL
04:57:36PM BEFORE THAT FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
04:57:38PM BECAUSE THAT IS NOT -- I MEAN, ANY -- ANY TIME.
04:57:41PM IF YOU WERE DONE WITH SOMETHING, SEND IT TO US, THAT WAY WE
04:57:44PM CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
04:57:45PM BUT, AGAIN, I WILL WORK WITH MISS COPESKY ON --
04:57:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE QUICK TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
04:57:51PM WE HAVE TWO MINUTES TO GET OUT OF HERE.
04:57:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE SOME CLEANUP.
04:57:58PM NOT A MOTION.
04:57:59PM IT IS GOING TO BE PUT ON THE -- THE MOTION IS TO REQUEST THE
04:58:03PM ADMINISTRATION -- NOT THE MOTION -- THE REQUEST TO HAVE THE
04:58:07PM ADMINISTRATION TO ADD IT TO THE AUGUST 28 CALENDAR.
04:58:10PM ITEM 2 IS SET -- JUST CONFIRM.
04:58:14PM ITEM 2 WAS SUPPOSE TO BE BROUGHT BACK ON AUGUST 11 AT 9 A.M.
04:58:19PM ON THE EARLY MORNING --
04:58:24PM >> NOT ABOUT THE STORMWATER.
04:58:26PM I PROMISE.
04:58:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE NONPROFITS.
04:58:29PM SOCIAL ACTION FUNDING.
04:58:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AUGUST 11 DURING THE 9 A.M. HE.
04:58:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLERK WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT.
04:58:40PM LAST ITEM.
04:58:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, MA'AM, STATE YOUR NAME.
04:58:44PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
04:58:47PM NOT ABOUT STORMWATER BUT THE ONLY SHEET FROM REVENUE FUND
04:58:50PM THAT I HAD FROM LAST YEAR.
04:58:51PM LAST YEAR HAD THE ACCOUNT NUMBERS ON THEM.
04:58:54PM THIS YEAR'S DO NOT.
04:58:55PM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEY WENT?
04:58:58PM BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO BE LOOKING FOR NUMBERS
04:59:01PM WHEN MISS COPESKY HAD PUT IN THE NUMBERS.
04:59:05PM AND I -- I SAT BACK THERE CAN FOR 45 MINUTES DIGGING TO
04:59:09PM FIGURE OUT WHERE THE NUMBERS WERE SHE PRESENTED I AM
04:59:12PM NORTHWEST FAULT ING HER.
04:59:19PM TOOK ME LONGER TO FIND MUCH LESS THAN THE FOLKS IN THE CITY
04:59:23PM OF TAMPA.
04:59:24PM I AM NOT FAULTING ANYONE ALREADY BUT I AM POINT OUT AN
04:59:28PM OBVIOUS ISSUE.
04:59:29PM OUR CI FIREWORKS LAST YEAR.
04:59:31PM FELL OUT ON THE FLOOR I HAD TO SIT DOWN -- FOUR PAGES.
04:59:35PM LOOK HOW SMALL -- NOT EVEN FULL PAGES INFORMATION.
04:59:38PM THEY ARE LIKE TWO-THIRDS OF A PAGE.
04:59:40PM NOT EVEN A WHOLE PAGE.
04:59:41PM BUT THIS ONE THIS YEAR IS SEVEN PAGES LONG.
04:59:44PM AND EVERY ONE THESE PAGES IS SLAP BACK FULL.
04:59:49PM I MEAN ALL THE WAY FULL TO THE VERY ENDS.
04:59:52PM AND I FINALLY FOUND THOSE NUMBERS HAMS THAT MISS COPESKY WAS
04:59:56PM USING, AT LEAST OF TWO THE THREE IN THIS REPORT.
04:59:59PM SO THIS -- NOT EASY TO MANIPULATE.
05:00:05PM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PARKS FOR A MINUTE.
05:00:08PM I ASKED FOUR OR FIVE TIMES IN MY AGENDA REVIEWS TO KNOW THE
05:00:13PM DISTRICTS OF THE PARKS.
05:00:15PM WE TALKED YOU HAVE NORTH DISTRICT, SOUTH DISTRICT.
05:00:19PM I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYBODY SPEND MONEY IN THE SOUTH DISTRICT.
05:00:22PM I CAN MAKE A GUESS.
05:00:23PM HOW MUCH OF THE $80 MILLION HAS BEEN PAID BACK AT THIS
05:00:26PM POINT.
05:00:26PM AND I AM WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:00:30PM 80 AND 50 IS $130.
05:00:32PM NOT 105.
05:00:34PM I WANT TO POINT OUT -- WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT FEES, OR
05:00:39PM TALKING OF TAXES AND WHY WE SHOULD REALLY PAY TAXES.
05:00:43PM I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW NOBODY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THINK
05:00:45PM THAT WE PAY TOO LITTLE TAXES.
05:00:48PM IF WE CAN GET OUR DUCKS IN THE ROW ABOUT MOBILITY, JUST THIS
05:00:51PM -- OKAY THERE ARE 25023.
05:00:53PM PRESENTED A MOBILITY REPORT WAS DONE.
05:00:56PM AND IT NEVER GOVERNMENT PRESENTED AT COUNCIL.
05:00:58PM SO IN 2024, HOME RUN WE RAISED THOSE FEES BY $6,000 WHICH IS
05:01:04PM SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN ANY THE OTHER COUNTIES WE ARE
05:01:07PM COMPARING OUR 70s.
05:01:08PM WE WOULD HAVE GOT AN EXTRA $5 MILLION IN FY '24.
05:01:14PM THIS YEAR IN FY '25.
05:01:17PM WOULD HAVE GOTTEN $3.3 MILLION.
05:01:20PM IF BE START RAISING THE FEES.
05:01:22PM KNOW IT WAS BUCKHORN'S POLICY NEVER RAISE FEES FOR BUILDERS
05:01:27PM AND DEVELOPERS.
05:01:28PM WATER CONNECTION FEES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN RAISED SINCE I WAS
05:01:31PM IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
05:01:31PM WE HAVE ALL THESE FEES LIKE THE $2.5 MILLION THAT GOT LOST
05:01:38PM LAST WEEK.
05:01:39PM BUT WE ARE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
05:01:42PM WE DON'T HAVE TO RAISE TAXES IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN.
05:01:46PM WE NEED TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND KEEP STOP
05:01:51PM SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPMENT.
05:01:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE --
05:01:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH THINGS ON THE AGENDA AND DIRECTIONS TO
05:02:00PM THE CLERK, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT I WILL BE ASKED FOR A
05:02:03PM MOTION TO HAVE ITEM NUMBER 2 TO BE SEPTEMBER FOR THE NEXT
05:02:05PM ITEM AT.
05:02:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW DO YOU WE THAT THAT.
05:02:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION AND A SECOND AND VOTE ON THIS.
05:02:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
05:02:15PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
05:02:17PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:02:18PM OPPOSED.
05:02:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO, A MOTION OF COUNCIL TO
05:02:23PM REQUEST THE ADMINISTRATION TO ADD NUMBER 3 TO THE -- TO THE
05:02:26PM AUGUST 28.
05:02:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
05:02:31PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
05:02:32PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED.
05:02:34PM NOW CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:02:37PM I MADE MOTION ANYWAY.
05:02:38PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:02:40PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:02:41PM THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
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