📝 City Council Meeting Transcript

TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, AUGUST 7, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:05:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE
RULES FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL?
9:05:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THESE ARE THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR THE CONDUCT OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON
AN ITEM.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NOW, IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK AT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT,
WHICH BEGINS AFTER THE CEREMONIAL ITEMS THIS MORNING ON THE
AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND PLACE IT IN THE
BOX THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.

CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
APPROACH AND SPEAK.
NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, THOSE ARE
MARKED ON THE AGENDA AS SUCH, PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU DON'T USE THE SPEAKER CARD.
YOU USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET BY THE PODIUM OUTSIDE INSTEAD.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE THE CITY STAFF.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
NOW, PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY
ALSO BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE
CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF
TODAY'S MEETING.
NOW, PLEASE KNOW THAT IF IT IS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT
IS LISTED AS A CONSENT ITEM OR FOR STAFF REPORTS, THE TIME
TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS IS GOING TO BE AT THE START OF THE

MEETING DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE
THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
DIALOGUE WITH YOU DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
THANK YOU.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:07:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SIR, IN THE WHITE AND BLACK T-SHIRT
AGAINST THE WALL, I RULE THAT YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS AND
REVERSE YOUR T-SHIRT AND THEN YOU CAN REENTER THE CHAMBER.
IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY, I'LL RULE YOUR
BEHAVIOR OUT OF ORDER AND ASK TO YOU LEAVE THE CHAMBERS.
9:07:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY.
HAVE YOU DONE ROLL CALL?
9:08:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLERK, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL?
9:08:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:08:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:08:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:08:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:08:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:08:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
THANK YOU.

SIR, I'M SORRY, ONCE AGAIN, I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO
LEAVE THE CHAMBERS, REVERSE YOUR SHIRT AND THEN COME BACK
IN.
IF NOT, I'LL RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
SIR, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
PLEASE LEAVE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
SIR, MAY I DIRECT THE OFFICER TO REMOVE THE GENTLEMAN FROM
THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS?
THANK YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL A TEN-MINUTE RECESS.
I ASK CITY STAFF, CLERK, ATTORNEY, CITY COUNCIL TO LEAVE THE
CHAMBERS FOR TEN MINUTES, AND WE WILL RETURN AND RESUME
OPERATIONS.
I'M SORRY FOR THE FOLKS HERE WAITING FOR THIS.
WE WILL SEE YOU ALL IN TEN MINUTES.
THANK YOU.
[RECESS]
9:19:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
9:19:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:19:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:19:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:19:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:19:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.

9:19:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
I WOULD LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA --
9:20:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THE GENTLEMAN DOING THE
INVOCATION.
LIEUTENANT COLONEL WILL ATKINS.
RETIRED AIR FORCE LIEUTENANT COLONEL WHO SERVED 22 YEARS AS
C 130 NAVIGATOR AND POLITICAL MILITARY ADVISOR, SIX
DEPLOYMENTS TO IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
TEACHING AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND NATIONAL SECURITY AT THE
U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY, COLONEL ATKINS NOW LIVES IN NEW
TAMPA WITH HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER AND REMAINS COMMITTED TO
PUBLIC SERVICE.
SERVES ON BOARD OF YMCA.
CURRENTLY IN TRAINING TO SERVE AS A MENTOR FOR VETERANS
TREATMENT COURT HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SUPPORTING
FELLOW VETERANS AND THEIR PATH TO HEALING.
HE WILL DO THE PLEDGE.
REMAIN STANDING.
9:20:53AM >> LET US BOW OUR HEADS.
GOD, WE GATHER TODAY IN SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
A CITY RICH IN CULTURE, FULL OF PROMISE AND DRIVEN BY THE
SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY.
GRANT THIS COUNCIL WISDOM IN ITS DELIBERATIONS, COMPASSION
IN ITS DECISIONS AND THE COURAGE TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY AND

PURPOSE.
MAY EACH CHOICE MADE HERE SERVE THE GREATER GOOD OF EVERY
NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERY VOICE, AND EVERY FAMILY.
LORD, SINCE WE KNOW THAT ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE THROUGH
YOU, PERHAPS YOU COULD SEND A LITTLE LOVE TO THE TAMPA BAY
RAYS.
BLESS THIS CITY, OUR LEADERS, AND ALL WHO CALL IT HOME.
AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:21:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW ABOUT A LITTLE LOVE FOR THE
BUCCANEERS.
THEIR FIRST PRESEASON GAME THIS SATURDAY NIGHT.
9:21:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT CUT.
9:21:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH.
MY BONES AREN'T UP FOR THAT THESE DAYS.
ARE WE ONLINE?
WE'RE NOT SEEING IT ON THE MONITORS.
THE OVERHEAD DISPLAYS, CAN YOU ALL -- CCTV, THE OVERHEAD
DISPLAYS IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IF YOU COULD GET THE LIVE
STREAM UP THERE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MINUTES
FROM THE REGULAR SESSION HELD JULY 31st, 2025.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
AGENDA REVIEW, PLEASE.
WE'VE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS.
9:22:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DIDN'T SEND A MEMO ON THIS.
I HAVE AN EVENT IN PLANT CITY FOR AN ORGANIZATION.
I'VE SERVED ON THE BOARD OVER 15 YEARS.
I'LL PROBABLY NEED TO LEAVE AROUND 11:25.
JUST FYI.
THERE MAY BE ITEMS.
I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE.
9:23:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WILL BE GONE FOR THE REST OF THE DAY?
9:23:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO, I'LL BE BACK.
9:23:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONE ITEM, CHIEF BENNETT WOULD LIKE TO DO
THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE
COMMENDATIONS TO ATU.
UNANIMOUS CONSENT?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 15.
THERE WAS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
9:23:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ALREADY SENT A MEMO TO PULL ITEM 20.
I WANT THAT HEARD FIRST ON STAFF REPORTS.
I DO WANT STAFF.
FIRE AND LAM AND PREFERABLY CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:23:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN HURTAK,
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
I THINK THAT IS -- CAN WE CONTINUE AN ITEM THAT WAS IN
PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME?
9:24:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PUBLIC HEARING, NO.
9:24:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DIDN'T THINK SO.
MAKING SURE.
STAFF REPORTS.
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
9:24:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES ON 52.
9:24:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
52, YES.
9:24:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
STAFF ON 52?
9:24:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
53.
9:24:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, YES.

I WOULD REQUEST OBVIOUSLY THAT I BE HERE FOR THIS ONE ON
RETURNING CITIZENS AND THE OFFICE OF AND OBVIOUSLY AN
IN-PERSON REPORT, IF I MAY.
9:24:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VIERA NEEDS TO BE THERE.
OKAY.
54.
9:24:43AM >> YES.
9:24:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
55?
9:24:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 25, 2025.
9:24:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET ME JUST SPEAK QUICKLY ON THIS BECAUSE
THIS IS MY MOTION.
THE REASON WE'RE CONTINUING IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME
ISSUES WITH SB 180.
WE'RE KIND OF TIEING IT INTO THE WORKSHOP WE ALREADY AGREED
TO DO ON SB 180.
THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
9:25:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM 56, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:25:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WOULD LIKE THAT IN PERSON.
I SPOKE TO MS. McKENZIE ON IT YESTERDAY.
I WOULD REQUEST TO BE HERE FOR THAT.

9:25:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM NUMBER 57.
9:25:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
AND GOES WITH 58.
9:25:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
58 IS A YES AS WELL.
9:25:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM 59 TO BE CONTINUED.
9:25:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED TO DO 58 BEFORE 57, FYI.
9:25:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 59 TO SEPTEMBER 4th.
THERE IS NO UPDATE BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF
WRITING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
9:25:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
60, MOTION TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 23.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
9:26:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 61 THROUGH 65.
9:26:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEMS
61 THROUGH 65.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
THAT I BELIEVE IS FINISHED ON THE AGENDA REVIEW.
9:26:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:26:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, PLEASE.
9:26:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN.
WE'RE HERE FOR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
I WILL LET CHIEF BERCAW TALK ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL, WHOEVER
HE OR SHE MAY BE.
IT IS A UNIQUE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
WE ALWAYS DO THIS TO REFLECT THE VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY WE
SERVE THAT ALWAYS SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, INCLUDING
POLICE OFFICERS AND COPS.
CHIEF.
9:27:13AM >>CHIEF BERCAW:
CHIEF BERCAW.
HONOR TO BE HERE TO PRESENT OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
TODAY, WE ARE RECOGNIZING OFFICER CURTIS BRILES AS TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025.
SINCE HE IS STILL IN HIS UNDERCOVER ROLE AND OPERATIONS ARE
STILL ONGOING, HERE TO ACCEPT ON HIS BEHALF IS SERGEANT MATT
ZELANSKY.

EARLIER THIS YEAR AS PART OF EFFORTS TO ADDRESS DRUG
ACTIVITY IN KEY AREAS OF THE CITY, OFFICER BRILES
VOLUNTEERED FOR ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING ROLES IN THE
OPERATION BY CONDUCTING UNDERCOVER NARCOTIC BUYS.
THIS HIGH-RISK ASSIGNMENT REQUIRED EXCEPTIONAL COURAGE,
VIGILANCE AND QUICK JUDGMENT.
FROM FEBRUARY THROUGH APRIL OF THIS YEAR, OFFICER BRILES
SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED MORE THAN 45 NARCOTIC PURCHASES FROM
29 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
THESE EFFORTS RESULTED IN WARRANTS AND ARRESTS FOR EACH OF
THEM.
MANY OF THESE OFFENSES OCCURRED NEAR SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, AND
OTHER PROTECTED LOCATIONS.
THE INDIVIDUALS HE TARGETED WERE NOT MINOR OFFENDERS.
19 OF THEM HAD PREVIOUSLY SERVED TIME IN THE FLORIDA STATE
PRISON TOTALING OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OF INCARCERATION FOR
SERIOUS CRIMES, INCLUDING DRUG TRAFFICKING, ARMED ROBBERY,
FIREARM VIOLATIONS AND AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS.
SEVERAL WERE ALSO SERVING ACTIVE PROBATION OR COMMUNITY
CONTROL AT OUR TIME.
OFFICER BRILES WORK -- HIS EFFORTS CONTRIBUTED DIRECTLY TO
IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY AND REMOVING DANGEROUS REPEAT
OFFENDERS FROM OUR STREETS.
HIS ACTIONS REFLECT THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF
PROFESSIONALISM, DEDICATION, AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

FOR SOMEBODY TO DO THIS, PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE TO MAKE
THE COMMUNITY SAFER AND TAKE DANGEROUS FELONS OFF THE
STREET, WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE OFFICER CURTIS BRILES AS
OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE, STARTING WITH THE
PBA, TO HONOR THIS OFFICER WHO IS HERE IN SPIRIT.
9:29:22AM >> BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
WE WANT TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE TO THE OFFICER FOR A JOB WELL
DONE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:38AM >> [INAUDIBLE] HE'S MAKING US SAFER.
THANK YOU.
9:29:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE MICROPHONE IS INSIDE
THE PODIUM.
IF YOU CAN FACE THE PODIUM.
9:29:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'M GRACE GONZALEZ.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF
RESTAURANTS.
PLEASE THANK YOUR TEAM.
THANK OFFICER BRILES FOR US.
THIS IS A GIFT CARD FOR HIM TO ENJOY A NIGHT WITH HIS
FAMILY, FLAMENCO SHOW, ULELE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT
AND HIS COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS LORI OSBORNE.
I'M WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE'D LIKE TO THANK BOTH
YOU AND OFFICER BRILES FOR HIS HEROISM AND KEEPING OUR CITY
SAFER.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE HE AND HIS FAMILY TO AN UPCOMING
PERFORMANCE FOR THE ORCHESTRA DURING OUR SEASON.
PLEASE GIVE THAT TO HIM AND THANK YOU AGAIN.
9:30:46AM >> THANK YOU AGAIN, MA'AM.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARY DILLON FROM STRAZ CENTER.
THANK YOU FOR NOMINATING THE OFFICER ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ
CENTER, TICKETS TO AN UPCOMING PERFORMANCE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CONVEY OUR CONGRATULATIONS.
9:31:07AM >> I WILL.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:11AM >> HI.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ZOO TODAY.

I'M NOT NEW ON THE BOARD.
AND THIS IS FOR THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
THIS IS A YEAR MEMBERSHIP FOR THE OFFICER AND OFFICER'S
FAMILY.
AND THE ANIMAL IS THE FLORIDA PANTHER BECAUSE THEY ARE
STEALTHY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
LEO GEARY WITH BILL CURRIE FORD.
CURTIS, CONGRATULATIONS.
JUST LET HIM KNOW WE SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM BILL CURRIE
FORD.
I'VE MET HIM MULTIPLE TIMES, SO I KNOW WHO HE IS.
THIS IS A HANDWRITTEN LETTER FROM JENNIFER CURRY HERSELF
WITH A GIFT CARD.
FULL FREE MAINTENANCE ON HIS PERSONAL VEHICLE CERTIFICATE.
OTHER GOODIES.
LIKE I SAY EVERY TIME I'M UP HERE --
9:32:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMEMBER, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
9:32:07AM >> WE RESPECT AND APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS THAT PUTS
ON THE UNIFORM EVERY SINGLE DAY.
IT'S TRULY AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE HERE EVERY SINGLE MONTH TO
DO THIS.
9:32:17AM >> THANK YOU.
9:32:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KNOW IT'S AWKWARD TO FACE FORWARD WHEN

ADDRESSING PEOPLE IN THE BACK, BUT THEY CAN HEAR WHEN IT IS
BOOMING OUT IF YOU FACE FORWARD.
MR. FORD.
9:32:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I LEFT SOMETHING UP THERE.
THANK YOU.
IT IS OUR 50th SEASON.
GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY, YOU KNOW THE TRADITION WE
HAVE.
YOU'VE BEEN PART OF THAT.
ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
YOUR PARTNER, HEARING HIS STORY AND WHAT YOU GUYS DO EACH
AND EVERY DAY TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, THE SACRIFICE THAT
YOUR FAMILY, UNPARALLELED.
IF ANYBODY DESERVES A GAME BALL, IT IS YOU AND YOUR PARTNER.
PLEASE PASS THAT ALONG.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
APPRECIATE IT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:11AM >> MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE OFFICER BRILES WITH A GIFT
CARD AND HAVE DINNER OUT, A NIGHT OUT ON STEPP'S TOWING.
LET HIM KNOW WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HE DOES FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU.
9:33:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
CITY STAFF.
MARYBETH WILLIAMS.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK.
WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO OFFICER BRILES
AND PRESENT HIM WITH A PERSONALIZED GRANITE PAVER ALONG THE
TAMPA RIVERWALK.
SHOULD BE READY 30, 60 DAYS.
WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT IS READY.
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS FROM SOME OF OUR BOARD
MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS.
GIFT CERTIFICATE TO FLORIDA AVENUE BREWING.
GIFT CERTIFICATE TO AN ADULT PARTY AT SPLITSVILLE, TWO
DINNER FOR TWO YACHT STAR SHIP.
PIRATE WATER TAXI TWO ALL DAY PASSES.
LOST PEARL, TWO COMPLIMENTARY ENTRANCES.
AGAIN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:22AM >> STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF FOLKS WHO
WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THE OFFICER.
I CAN TELL YOU THESE ARE NO NONSENSE FOLKS.
I'VE SEEN THEM IN ACTION.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE AND SURE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES WHAT THEY

DO TO KEEP US SAFE.
BEHALF OF THE BUSINESSES, MEAT MARKET OLD HYDE PARK,
PROVIDING A GIFT CERTIFICATE.
JACKSON BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP UP AND DOWN HOWARD, TAKE YOUR PICK.
YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT'S BEING DONE FOR OUR
COMMUNITY.
GET THE BAD BOYS OFF THE STREET.
THANKS.
9:35:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD TO SEE YOU, STEVE MICHELINI.
GLAD YOU ARE OUT AND ABOUT.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
9:35:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SIR, WE ALWAYS END WITH THE RED TIE.
HONOR YOUR COLLEAGUE WHO YOU ARE HERE FOR, FOR ALL OF HIS
HARD WORK, DETERMINATION AND COURAGE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
A MAN OF HUMILITY.
9:35:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FIRST.
9:35:40AM >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING A JOB EVERY DAY IN AND
OUT FOR THE OFFICER RISKING HIS LIFE, HE OR SHE.
OVER A THOUSAND OFFICERS, HUNDREDTH OF A SECOND TO MAKE A
DECISION.
I CAN IMAGINE THE POSITION WHAT THIS OFFICER IS IN.
GOES OUT, FINDS THEM, LOCATES THEM AND THEN MAKES A BUY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD.
MORE DRUG DEALERS BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE DRUG USERS.
NO DRUG USERS, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY DRUG DEALERS OR SAY IT
THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
IT IS A TWO-WAY STREET.
THANK THE OFFICER, THE WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CHIEF,
SECOND IN COMMAND, LOOKING AT HER, THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU
DO, WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED, YOU HAVE TAKEN THIS
RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP THE CITIZENS OF WHATEVER CITY YOU
SERVE.
GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.
9:36:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE OFFICER, YOUR
COLLEAGUE, FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
WE APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICE AND WHAT THIS OFFICER IS DOING
AND THE COMMUNITY HAS DONE AND CONTINUES TO DO.
CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU, SIR.
9:36:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, CITY
COUNCIL SUPPORTS YOU AND YOUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS THAT WEAR
THE BADGE.
WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
BRIEF PAUSE TO LET THE FOLKS LEAVE.

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:37:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
I AM HERE FOR THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
VERY EXCITED.
9:38:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FACE THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:38:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST WAITING FOR EVERYBODY TO COME ON UP.
WHO IS TAKING THE LEAD TODAY?
OKAY.
9:38:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:38:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, MR. PRESIDENT.
9:38:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
AND GOOD MORNING CITY OF TAMPA.
I'M STEVE SIMON.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION LOCAL
1464.
WE KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE
ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MS. APRIL GRANT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
APRIL IS A CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE WITHIN THE WATER
DEPARTMENT, AND HAS BEEN AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO HER TEAM.
HER CONSISTENT WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT BOTH HER IMMEDIATE
TEAM MEMBERS AND COLLEAGUES ACROSS DEPARTMENTS HAS MADE A

SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR OPERATIONS.
SHE APPROACHES EACH CHALLENGE WITH A STRONG EAGERNESS TO
LEARN AND PROACTIVE ATTITUDE IN APPLYING NEWLY ACQUIRED
KNOWLEDGE TO ENHANCE WORK FLOWS.
APRIL HAS DEMONSTRATED A STRONG COMMITMENT TO COLLABORATION
AND PROBLEM SOLVING.
SHE FREQUENTLY GOES THE EXTRA MILE TO HELP UNCOVER AND
ADDRESS THE MISSING PIECES NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD.
HER EFFORTS HAVE MADE HER A RELIABLE AND RESPECTED RESOURCE
THROUGHOUT THE OPERATION.
NOTABLY, APRIL PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN CLEANING AND VETTING
RECORDS AND STREAMLINING THE CHAMBER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM
SCHEDULING PROCESS, EFFORTS THAT HELPED US REACH OUR ANNUAL
GOALS.
HER DEDICATION CONTINUES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY AND
STRENGTHEN TEAMWORK ACROSS ALL LEVELS OF THE OPERATION.
AND WE THANK YOU, APRIL.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION IN DOING WHAT YOU DO TO
KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
SO, THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF ATU LOCAL 1464, I WOULD LIKE TO
PRESENT YOU WITH THIS AWARD.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO WATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OF
OPERATIONS, ELIE FRANCO, TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

9:40:50AM >> THANK YOU, STEVEN.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
WHEN I THINK OF APRIL, THE WORD THAT COMES TO MIND IS
SPONGE.
SOMEONE THAT IS ALWAYS NOT ONLY FOCUSED ON THE TASK AT HAND,
BUT WHAT'S NEXT.
WHAT ELSE CAN I LEARN?
HOW ELSE CAN I CONTRIBUTE?
SHE JOINED THE WATER TEAM ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
STARTED OUT IN THE CALL CENTER.
THAT'S NOT AN EASY ASSIGNMENT TO BREAK INTO THE BIZ, BUT SHE
HANDLED IT VERY WELL.
AN OPPORTUNITY CAME UP WITHIN THE LAST YEAR TO MOVE INTO THE
OPERATIONS SIDE OF OUR BUSINESS.
SHE MOVED OVER THERE AND BROUGHT THE SAME SPIRIT OF I WANT
TO LEARN AND I WANT TO LEARN MORE.
SO ON BEHALF OF RORY JONES, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR WHO
COULD NOT BE HERE THIS MORNING, BUT WHO HANDPICKED
EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THIS BAG, AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE
WATER TEAM, CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING NOMINATED AND SELECTED
AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
9:41:55AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:42:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOW WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO
WOULD LIKE TO HONOR YOU WITH SOME THINGS.

I'M THE ZOO TODAY, TOO.
I'M DOUBLE DUTY.
SO THIS IS FOR YOU FOR THE ZOO.
THIS IS SIX PASSES TO ENJOY THE DAY AT THE ZOO AND YOUR
ANIMAL IS A MANATEE, OF COURSE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:42:34AM >> MARY DILLON FROM THE STRAZ CENTER.
CONGRATULATIONS, MS. GRANT, ON YOUR AWARD.
THIS IS MY BUSINESS CARD.
I WILL BE SENDING YOU TICKETS VERY SHORTLY, WORKING THROUGH
KELLY SCHARF FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S OFFICE.
YOU'LL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS FOR UPCOMING PERFORMANCE ON
BEHALF OF THE STRAZ.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:42:57AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:03AM >> MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING.
BRIAN FORD, APOLOGIZED HE HAD TO LEAVE.
TRAINING CAMP WAS CALLING.
YOU RECEIVED TODAY'S GAME BALL.
CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
AND ALSO, ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP, WE FIND IT VERY FITTING
TO GET A GO LOCAL TAMPA GIFT CARD FOR YOU.
ENJOY IT.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:43:31AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, APRIL.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ACHIEVEMENT.
THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THE WATER GOING AND KEEPING TAMPA
RUNNING.
I'M LORI OSBORNE.
I AM WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE
YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO AN UPCOMING PERFORMANCE IN OUR NEW
SEASON.
THEY ARE HERE, AND WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.
9:44:00AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:44:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
GOOD MORNING, MS. APRIL.
GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN TAMPA AND COMMITTING
YOURSELF TO HELPING US HERE THRIVE AS A CITY.
WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO ENJOY YOURSELF AT ANY OF OUR
RESTAURANTS ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
PLEASE HAVE A NIGHT OFF AND ENJOY YOURSELF.

THANK YOU AGAIN AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:44:25AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:44:33AM >> DO YOU HAVE AN ASSISTANT HELPING YOU LOAD YOUR GIFTS?
9:44:36AM >> YES.
9:44:39AM >> LYNN, YOU HAVE TO COME UP HERE.
NOT QUITE IN THE PICTURE.
9:44:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHO IS THE POLITICIAN?
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:44:46AM >> LYNN.
STEVE MICHELINI.
HERE ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FOLKS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO JACKSON'S
BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
GIFT CERTIFICATE TO CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP ON SOUTH
HOWARD.
THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO AND THE MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE
PARK.
SOME OF THESE CERTIFICATES I'LL HAVE TO GET TO YOU.
BEEN A LITTLE PREOCCUPIED THE LAST FEW DAYS.
ANYWAY, THERE IS A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SAFETY.
I WOULD THINK THAT WATER IS RIGHT UP THERE.
I HAD A CALL YESTERDAY ABOUT SOME WATER ISSUES AND THEY GOT

RIGHT ON IT WITH RORY JONES AND TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT.
WE APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING US HEALTHY.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:45:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND FROM A GRATEFUL CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE
PRESENTING YOU WITH THIS COMMENDATION.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:45:52AM >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE HONOR TO GUARD, FIRST OF ALL.
AND MY TEAM THAT HELPED MOVE ME.
IT'S LIKE A PUZZLE.
EVERYBODY PLAYS A PART.
IF IT WASN'T FOR MY TEAM, I WOULDN'T BE WHO I AM BECAUSE
THEY ARE ALWAYS THERE HELPING ME AND THERE FOR ME.
MY SUPERVISORS AND DIRECTORS, IF I NEED SOMETHING, CAN I
ALWAYS GO TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND THERE'S NO ISSUE.
HAVING A GREAT TEAM HELPED MOTIVATE ME TO BE A BETTER PERSON
AND BETTER PERSON FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
I JUST ENJOY WORKING FOR THE CITY AND KEEPING IT GOING WELL.
I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:46:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:46:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, APRIL.
WE AS CITIZENS AND AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE TURN ON THE
WATER, IT'S FOR GRANTED IT'S THERE.

DAY IN AND DAY OUT, 365 DAYS A YEAR FOR MANY YEARS.
THE WATER QUALITY IS THERE.
THE CLEARNESS IS THERE AND THE PRICE IS RIGHT.
THAT'S ALL TV SHOWS.
SO WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS MAKES THE CITY OF TAMPA NOT
RUN BUT STAY IN PLACE AND PRODUCE THE QUALITY, THE QUANTITY
WITHIN THE 85 MILLION -- THANK YOU AND THE STAFF MEMBERS
THAT WORK WITH YOU.
THE DIRECTOR OF WATER.
THE SUPER DEPARTMENT HEADS.
EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MR. FRANCO, ALL OF YOU.
AND THE ATU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF YOU LIKE THEY ARE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING THE EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR.
9:47:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU HAVE A REALLY WONDERFUL DEPARTMENT.
I GET A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK.
THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
YOU HAVE A GREAT DEPARTMENT HEAD AND A WONDERFUL TEAM.
EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE, AND YOU ARE VERY SPECIAL AND INTEGRAL
PART OF THAT, AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW, THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN
OF OUR APPRECIATION, BUT WHAT YOU DO DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED.
AGAIN, I GET A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK IN MY OFFICE FOR THE
LEVEL OF SERVICE AND QUALITY, SO PEOPLE DO GREAT WORK.
YOU MAKE US PROUD EVERY DAY AND THIS IS WELL DESERVED.
9:48:02AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE OFFICER,

WE HAVE A RULE THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY ANYTHING IN
THESE SECTIONS, SO WE TRY NOT TO.
SINCE EVERYBODY ELSE IS WEIGHING IN, I'LL WEIGH IN AND THANK
THE OFFICER BEFORE, TOO.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO IN THE DEPARTMENT AS MY COLLEAGUE
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID.
I GET A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ON THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
YOU ARE PROACTIVE AND WORK WITH PEOPLE.
IT'S OUTSTANDING SERVICE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM, COME FROM RORY?
COME FROM THE OTHER MANAGERS?
I ALSO NEVER HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS DEPARTMENT.
WHATEVER YOU ALL ARE DOING, PLEASE KEEP IT UP.
PLEASE KEEP UP THE GREAT SERVICE BECAUSE THE CONSTITUENTS
APPRECIATE IT.
9:48:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEHALF OF TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL.
YOU REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT AND ATU VERY WELL.
THANK YOU.
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHERE ARE ALL MY FRIENDS FROM THE CHURCH
THAT WERE ON THE BUS IN THE PARKING LOT?
GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
CHIEF BENNETT.

9:49:41AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC.
I JUST WANTED TO SEIZE THE MOMENT AND THANK COUNCIL FOR
MOVING UP THE SHORT ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
IT WAS RELEVANT BECAUSE I HAD TWO UNION PRESIDENTS HERE,
BOTH STEVE SIMON AND BRANDON BARCLAY FROM THE ATU AND PBA.
JUST A LITTLE FORECASTING FOR COUNCIL, SINCE THE BEGINNING
OF APRIL THIS YEAR, ALL THE WAY TO JUST YESTERDAY, WE HAD
BEEN NEGOTIATING AND THEN YESTERDAY WAS THE FINAL
RATIFICATION FOR THREE OF OUR FOUR BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.
YESTERDAY, THE PBA RATIFIED BOTH THE LIEUTENANTS AND OFFICER
THROUGH SERGEANT AGREEMENT AND ATU RATIFIED THEIRS JUST
RECENTLY BEFORE THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK BOTH UNIONS FOR THEIR
PROFESSIONALISM DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS AND ANNOUNCE TO
COUNCIL THAT OF THE THREE OF THE FOUR BARGAINING AGREEMENTS
THAT HAVE NOW BEEN RATIFIED, WE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO YOUR
OFFICES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY CONVERSATION WITH THE STAFF
AND, OF COURSE, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS WELCOME TO TALK TO
THE UNIONS.
WE NEGOTIATED IN FRONT OF HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES IN THE
SUNSHINE.
AGAIN, SINCE APRIL.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CLOSING OUT THE REMAINING ONE.
AS COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC PROBABLY KNOW, 3800 OF OUR 5,000

EMPLOYEES ARE IN OUR BARGAINING UNITS BETWEEN THE ATU, PBA
AND IAFF.
AGAIN, WE WELCOME CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL AND, OF COURSE,
COUNCIL WITH THE UNIONS BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE CONTRACTS
COME THROUGH OnBase.
I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL AND APPRECIATE ALL THE
HARD WORK OF STAFF, ESPECIALLY LEGAL, HR, AND THE DEPARTMENT
HEADS.
THANK YOU.
9:51:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE ONLINE PERSON.
IS THAT MICHAEL RANDOLPH?
IS HE ONLINE?
MR. RANDOLPH.
9:51:29AM >> YES.
GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
TODAY I BRING YOU TWO URGENT ISSUES IMPACTING AFRICAN
AMERICANS.
THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED AND THOSE STRIVING.

FIRST, THE PAST, WE ASK YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE DESIGN
GEOLOGICAL RESEARCH CENTER.
BUILD, DESIGN AND RELATED COMMUNITY PROGRAMS.
THIS INITIATIVE IS MORE THAN CULTURAL IN ITS TRANSFORMATION.
DESIGN -- DESIGN CENTER WILL SERVE AS HISTORIC AND CULTURAL
ANCHOR OFFERING GEOLOGICAL SERVICES, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS
AND MORE.
IT IS AN INCOME MODEL GENERATING REVENUE THROUGH OPEN SPACE,
RENTAL SPACE PROGRAM, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC RETURN FOR THE
CITY.
THE MEMORIAL PARK IS MORE THAN A PUBLIC SPACE.
IT IS A REFLECTION, EDUCATION, AND RECONCILIATION.
NOW THE PRESENT.
SINCE 1990, THE WEST TAMPA POPULATION HAS DECREASED BY 50%.
THIS IS NOT A STATISTIC.
THIS IS A WARNING.
DISPLACEMENT, CULTURAL ERASURE -- OF RESHAPING THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS WHY WE ARE LAUNCHING THE BLACK AGENDA, A
CONVERSATION WITH WEST TAMPA PREACHER TIED TO THE UPCOMING
DISTRICT 5 SPECIAL ELECTION.
THIS IS A VIRTUAL MEETING BRINGING IN RESIDENTS, NONPROFITS,
CANDIDATES TO DISCUSS REAL SOLUTIONS ON AUGUST 27 AT 4 P.M.
AGAIN, ONLINE.
THIS WILL BE STREAMED LIVE, VOICES FROM THE BOTTOM UP TO

TALK ABOUT STRATEGY TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.
IT IS OUR MOMENT TO LISTEN, LEAD, AND ACT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOU.
9:53:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER IS FRED HEARNS FOLLOWED BY RON WEAVER.
9:53:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS FRED HEARNS.
I'M PRESIDENT OF THE ZION CEMETERY, PRESERVATION AND
MAINTENANCE SOCIETY.
I HAVE APPEARED BEFORE YOU IN THE PAST.
JUST TO REITERATE THE REQUEST FOR $8 MILLION.
THAT'S WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO BRING TOGETHER THE PROPERTY THAT
IS NEEDED TO CREATE THIS MEMORIAL SITE AT THE ZION CEMETERY.
SEVERAL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE HERE TODAY ALONG WITH SOME
OTHERS I BELIEVE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE TIES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE OLD ROBLES
PARK PUBLIC HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS, BUT TODAY,
AS OF TODAY, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THINGS TO COME TOGETHER
SO WE CAN ACCUMULATE THE PROPERTY UNDER OUR NONPROFIT AND
THEN BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT MICHAEL RANDOLPH JUST
TALKED ABOUT, THE MEMORIAL SITE FOR WE BELIEVE SOME 850
GRAVES.

PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO DIED AT A TIME
WHEN, OF COURSE, THINGS WERE SEGREGATED, BUT RICHARD DOBY,
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT NAME BEFORE.
DOBYVILLE, PURCHASED THIS LAND FOR A CEMETERY FOR BLACK
PEOPLE.
SO TODAY WE'RE ASKING THAT THE RIGHT THING BE DONE.
I ALSO SERVE AT YOUR PLEASURE ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION
COMMITTEE.
OUR CHAIRPERSON, CONNIE BURTON, IS HERE.
OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE ARE HERE.
I WAS CHARGED WITH LOOKING AT FORGOTTEN AND IGNORED HISTORY.
THAT WAS MY ASSIGNMENT ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION
COMMITTEE.
THIS IS EXAMPLE NUMBER ONE.
THE ZION CEMETERY.
IT'S TIME FOR US TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE STEPS IN THAT DIRECTION.
WE'VE BEEN TOLD HERE AND THERE THAT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION
IS MAKING PROGRESS.
IT'S SORT OF A COMPLICATED MATTER BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
FIGURE OUT THINGS BEFORE.
THIS IS IN THE HEART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT'S ALSO IN DISTRICT 5.
AND IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS I SPOKE WITH COUNCILWOMAN
GWEN HENDERSON ABOUT.

AND SHE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE.
WE NOW HAVE A HISTORIC MARKER ON FLORIDA AVENUE THAT THE
THOUSANDS OF CARS THAT DRIVE NORTH ON FLORIDA SEE EVERY DAY,
ALONG WITH A BANNER THAT LISTS THE NAMES OF SOME OF THOSE
850 PEOPLE BURIED AT ZION.
AGAIN, THIS IS AN $8 MILLION ASK.
IT'S NOT A BIG NUMBER FOR THIS CITY, BUT IT'S NEEDED FOR US
TO DO THE RIGHT THING AT THE ZION CEMETERY SITE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PERRY HARVEY PARK BAND
SHELL.
WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT.
9:56:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
RON WEAVER, FOLLOWED BY CONNIE BURTON.
9:56:52AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
I'M RON WEAVER, 4403 WEST DALE AVENUE.
I RISE ON THE OCCASION OF ITEM 54, WHICH IS TO NAME STREET
PREFERABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF TAMPA STADIUM FOR GEORGE
AND LEONARD LEVY.
I SPOKE TO LEONARD LEVY A WEEK OR TWO OKAY.
HIS IDENTICAL BROTHER BORN IN 1933, LOOKING AT THOSE TWO
PERFECT TWINS AND WONDERING WHAT WILL THEY DO FOR THE CITY?
WHAT KIND OF MEN WILL THEY BECOME?
WELL, GEORGE LEVY WAS A U.S. SPORTS WRITER AFTER A GREAT
CAREER AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.

HE WILL BE ON APRIL 3, 1974, DRAKE HOTEL IN NEW YORK CITY
TRYING TO GET TAMPA A TEAM.
THEY ONLY HAD THREE STRIKES AGAINST THEM.
NUMBER ONE, INSUFFICIENT SEATS IN THE BIG SOMBRERO.
NUMBER TWO, INSUFFICIENT HOTEL ROOMS AND NUMBER THREE, NO
OWNER.
APRIL 3, 1974 IN THE BRAKE HOTEL AND ORIGINAL LEVY AND HIS
BROTHER LEONARD AND THE TEAM OF CHUCK SMITH AND THE LEADERS
OF TAMPA WERE ABLE TO CONVINCE THE NFL TO ALLOW AN EXPANSION
FRANCHISE TO TAMPA.
GET US THE TAMPA BAY BUCS.
SAVING OF THE TAMPA BAY BUCS ALSO INVOLVED KEEPING THE BUCS
HERE WHICH INVOLVED A STADIUM, WHICH INVOLVED A TRIP BY
GEORGE LEVY INTO MAYOR DICK GRECO'S OFFICE WITH A HALF A
PENNY.
HE HAS A TROPHY COMPANY, VERY SUCCESSFUL NATIONALLY
RECOGNIZED 30,000-SQUARE-FOOT TROPHY COMPANY AND GEORGE WITH
HIS MACHINERY CUTS A PENNY IN HALF.
IN 1995, TAKES IT INTO THE OFFICE OF DICK GRECO IN THIS
BUILDING AND HANDS HIM A HALF PENNY.
WE NEED A HALF CENTS SALES TAX.
WE NEED IT FOR THINGS LIKE KEEPING THE BUCS.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, 89% WON'T GO THROUGH BUCS STADIUM.
GO THROUGH SCHOOLS WHICH SAVE THEM.
ROADS, WHICH SAVED THEY WILL.

DRAINAGE, WHICH SAVED THEM.
WATER DEPARTMENT, APRIL AND HER TEAM THIS MORNING
RECOGNIZED.
THIS MAN, GEORGE LEVY AND HIS BROTHER LEONARD LEVY DESERVE
SOMETHING NAMED IN THEIR HONOR NEAR TAMPA STADIUM BECAUSE
THEY WERE ABLE TO INSTILL IN THIS COMMUNITY THE CONFIDENCE
OF GETTING US THE BUCS.
TOGETHER, THEY GOT US NOT ONE BUT TWO DIFFERENT SUPER BOWLS
AND FINALLY I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS, DAVID KENNEDY, ONE OF THE
MOST DISTINGUISHED PHILANTHROPISTS IN THIS TOWN, AS SWIM
COACH, GEORGE LEVY SAID I'M NOT JUST GOING TO TEACH YOU HOW
TO SWIM, I'M GOING TO MAKE MEN OF YOU.
GEORGE LEVY MADE MEN AND WOMEN OF CHARACTER AND VALUES OUT
OF HUNDREDS OF TAMPA'S LEADERS.
GEORGE AND LEONARD LEVY, I STAND IN THEIR HONOR.
THANK YOU.
9:59:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. WEAVER.
NO CLAPPING NO FINGER SNAPPING.
CONNIE BURTON.
9:59:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
AUGUST IS RECOGNIZED WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AS A TIME TO
REFLECT ON THOSE THAT HELP FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM AND JUSTICE,
LIBERATION OFFICERS AND WARRIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IT ALSO REFLECT BASED ON THE ONGOING STRUGGLE OF

INCARCERATION.
WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE IN A TIME THAT JUST A HANDFUL HAVE ACCUMULATED BASED
ON CRIMINAL HISTORY, I WONDER AND SAY WHAT DID OUR POLITICAL
LEADERSHIP DO TO HELP TURN THE CIRCLE AROUND?
SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THIS MORNING A YOUNG MAN THAT PUT OUT
A BOOK CALLED THE DARK WEB.
BACK IN CALIFORNIA, GARY -- CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME RIGHT
NOW -- BUT HE TALKED ABOUT HOW COCAINE AND CRACK COCAINE
ENTER INTO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
IT DIDN'T WALK ITS WAY HERE.
IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND EVEN AFTER THE NUMBER OF SO-CALLED HUNDRED PLUS ARRESTS,
WE STILL DEALING WITH ISSUE OF COCAINE AND DOPE IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW WHY?
WE DON'T HAVE POLITICAL RELATIONSHIP TO TURN THE WHEEL FOR
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
HOW DO WE GIVE VOICES TO THE ENERGY OF AFRICAN PEOPLE THAT
CONSTANTLY COME HERE AND SAY THESE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO
RECTIFY THE HARM DONE BY POLITICAL LEADERS.
SO, YES, WE DO NEED TO HAVE A RECKONING FOR ZION.
YES, WE DO.
YES, YOU CAN FIND $8 MILLION.
YES, YOU DO HAVE IT.

I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW WE WAS ABLE TO,
DESPITE THE SCRAWL IN SOME WAYS THE NOT WANTING TO DO A
SUCCESSFUL SUMMER PROGRAM, WE WAS ABLE TO DO THAT.
THE CITY STAFF, MS. RUGINA CASTILLO AND HER STAFF WAS ABLE
TO HELP A FEW YOUNG PEOPLE, NOT THE 72 THAT REQUESTED, NOT
THE 142 THAT WE GET NEXT YEAR, 144 OR MORE, BUT WE DO HAVE
VOICES IN THIS CHAMBER THIS MORNING THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT
HOW THAT PROGRAM WAS ABLE TO BRING SOME LIGHT INTO THEIR
LIVES.
HOW THAT PROGRAM, AND THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO
SERVE AS EXAMPLES IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT IF THEY ARE JUST
GIVEN A MERE OPPORTUNITY, IF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GIVEN A MERE
OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFORM THEIR LIVES, YOU KNOW WHAT WE DON'T
HAVE ANYMORE?
MISSING IN ACTION BASED ON THE LONG HISTORY OF
INCARCERATION.
MR. MIRANDA GOT IT RIGHT THIS MORNING.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE DOPE USERS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE DOPE SELLERS.
WE WANT TO KILL IT OFF.
WE DON'T WANT NO MORE DOPE SELLERS AND WE DON'T WANT NO MORE
DOPE USERS.
10:02:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.
ASHLEY, FOLLOWED BY -- ASHLEY, GOING ONCE?
ASHLEY?
GOOD MORNING.

10:03:18AM >> MY NAME IS ASHLEY DIJON.
I WANTED TO GIVE THANK YOU TO MS. RUGINA CASTILLO AND MR.
HUNTLEY.
IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE PROGRAM.
THIS INTERNSHIP IS VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT TO STUDENTS.
IT GIVES US HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE AND OPENS A LOT OF DOORS.
TOWARD THE CAREERS THAT WE WANT TO BE AND GOING INTO.
NOT ONLY HAVE THEY HELPED US WITH A JOB, BUT THEY HELPED US
FILLING OUT OUR RESUM .
THEY HELPED US WITH OUR BODY LANGUAGE, HOW WE SHOULD SPEAK
TO PEOPLE, HOW TO APPLY FOR A CREDIT CARD.
HOW TO FILL OUT A W-4 FORM.
HOW TO PRESENT YOURSELF.
HOW TO HAVE HOME SKILLS THAT MAYBE YOU WEREN'T TAUGHT.
YOU GET TO MEET A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE.
I MET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I NEVER -- I MET THE MAYOR.
IT IS VERY GREAT THAT WE GET TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WITH
PEOPLE SO I GET TO DECIDE IF I REALLY WANT TO DO THIS NOW
THAT I'M GETTING TO DO THIS HANDS-ON.
THIS IS A VERY GREAT EXPERIENCE.
NOT ONLY THAT, I JUST GRADUATED.
THEY ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SEE IF THEY CAN HIRE ME
FULL ON WITH THE CITY.
AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT I GET TO -- THEY ARE JUST DOING
A LOT FOR ME RIGHT NOW.

I THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING THIS PROGRAM.
THIS HAS HELPED A LOT OF KIDS, A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS.
IT OPENS THEIR EYES, LIKE, THEY GET TO MATURE A LITTLE
FASTER AND LEARN WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR MONEY.
I THANK EVERYONE FOR HAVING ME.
10:05:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL BREAK COUNCIL RULES BECAUSE WE ARE
NOT SUPPOSED TO RESPOND.
SYIP.
10:05:20AM >> THE SUMMER YOUTH INTERN PROGRAM.
10:05:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OTHER PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
HOW MANY MONTHS WERE YOU IN IT?
10:05:30AM >> TWO MONTHS.
10:05:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO CITY COUNCIL TODAY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WE'LL ALLOW THE CLAPPING FOR THAT ONE.
BYRON.
DOESN'T WANT TO SPEAK.
OKAY.
MARTY GREEN?
HIDING IN THE BACK.
THE NEXT ONE, GERALDINE WILLIAMS AFTER MARTY.
10:06:27AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MARTY GREEN.

I'M WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS IS MY SUPERVISOR, MICHAEL BROWN.
I'LL GO TO THIS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, I WAS FORCEFULLY -- SAY IT AGAIN --
FORCEFULLY.
I HAD TO PAY MICHAEL BROWN TO WORK OVER-TIME.
AGAIN, I LOOK, HE SAY HE WAS IN A MEETING.
HE TOOK THE MONEY, THEN I GO BACK UP.
HE SAY, STICK WITH ME, NEVER LEAD YOU ASTRAY.
HE WANTED ME TO SET GUYS UP.
I REFUSED TO SET THOSE GUYS UP.
I GO DOWN TO THIS PART, PARKS, I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN
THERE.
I HAD TO FORCIBLY SET THE EMPLOYEES UP AND I REFUSED TO SET
THE EMPLOYEES UP.
I TOOK IT TO MAYOR JANE CASTOR AND WROTE HER AN E-MAIL WHICH
SHE NEVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SHE TURNED IT OVER.
I WROTE HER A LETTER AND I EXPLAINED TO HER, I TOLD HER MIKE
BROWN ASKED ME ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASIONS FOR MONEY AND
EVERYTHING IS GOING UNDER UNETHICAL PRACTICES.
ALSO, I REFUSED TO BUY HIM LUNCH AGAIN AND I REFUSED TO LET
HIM BORROW $10,000.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, LIKE I TOLD TWO YEARS AGO -- YEAR AGO, HIS
WIFE -- HE ASKED ME FOR MONEY TO BUY A LAND ROVER FOR HIS

WIFE.
WHAT DOES HIS WIFE HAVE NOW, LAND ROVER.
GUESS CITY EMPLOYEES GAVE HIM MONEY FOR IT.
ALSO CONTACTED THE CHIEF OF STAFF SITTING TO MY LEFT.
HE TOLD YOU ALL HE HAD AN OPEN DOOR POLICY, WHICH THAT IS A
LIE.
HE TOLD ME I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PEOPLE I WAS
TALKING ABOUT.
I CALLED HIM AND TEXT HIM.
THE TEXTS, HE DIDN'T RESPOND.
I WENT TO BRYAN RODGER.
BRYAN RODGER IS THE MODERN KKK.
THEREFORE, EVERY DAY YOU CAN CATCH HIM AT DEWEY'S BECAUSE
THEY GOT THESE STUPID PRICES.
CUT -- THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN CATCH HIM AT.
HE'S AN ALCOHOLIC.
SO HE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEREFORE I CONTACTED JEAN DUNCAN.
NO RESPONSE FROM JEAN DUNCAN, NOT AT ALL.
SAYING THAT TO SAY THIS IS, IF THIS GOING TO KEEP GOING ON,
WHY WE HERE SPEAKING FOR THE SIMPLE FACT I'M FORCEFULLY
HAVING TO GIVE MONEY TO A SUPERVISOR.
THIS IS VERY UNETHICAL.
THEREFORE, IF NOBODY DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT, IT WILL GO DOWN.
I'LL SPEAK ON THE UNION CONTRACT.

NONE OF US SIGNED THAT CONTRACT.
NOT EVEN EXECUTIVE BOARD SIGNED THE CONTRACT.
STEVE SIMON DOCTORED THAT CONTRACT UP.
WE DID NOT WANT THAT.
WHY WOULD WE TAKE A PAY CUT FOR HIM TO GET 24%.
NO, WE DIDN'T DO THAT.
TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF AND GAVE US A CONTRACT THAT WAS
BOO-BOO.
HOW DOES TPD GET 6% ALL THE WAY ACROSS AND WE ONLY GET 12.
THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
WE DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THAT.
10:09:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GERALDINE WILLIAMS FOLLOWED BY REVA IMAN.
10:09:43AM >> I'M GERALDINE WILLIAMS.
I AM HERE AS THE DAUGHTER OF MR. JUDGE AND MS. MILDRED OF
YBOR CITY.
I'M ALSO THE MOTHER OF WALTER LEE SMITH THE SECOND AND
GRANDMOTHER OF WALTER LEE SMITH THE THIRD.
I AM HERE TO SAY THAT I AM A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF ONE OF THE
BODIES THAT HAS BEEN INTERRED AT ZION CEMETERY.
I COME TO YOU WITH A VERY EMOTIONAL, VERY SUBSTANTIAL
PRESENTATION, AND I'M JUST SAYING TO YOU THAT I DON'T LIKE
THE FACT THAT YOU AREN'T DOING ANYTHING.
BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT, I WANTED TO COME TO YOU TO SAY, LET
ME HELP YOU OUT.
I DID SOME RESEARCH BECAUSE I'M THINKING THAT PERHAPS YOU

JUST DON'T KNOW, AND YOU DON'T APPRECIATE WHAT WE ARE GOING
THROUGH.
THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHOM WE HAVE HAD IN OUR FAMILIES, AND OURS
IS ANA REBECCA WYCHE, W-Y-C-H-E.
SHE IS LISTED.
AND I FOUND HER -- THEY DIDN'T FIND ME -- I FOUND HER
BECAUSE OF FAMILY RESEARCH.
AND I WANT TO SAY TO YOU THAT IT WAS A BLACK MAN, YOU HEARD
OF HIM, RICHARD DOBY, IN 1894 WHO PURCHASED THE LAND AND
DOBY GAVE THAT LAND TO THE CITY FOR BLACKS WHO LIVED IN
DOBYVILLE TO BE BURIED.
AND THE CITY -- AND THIS IS WHY I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND --
WE ARE NOT JUST COMING TO YOU BECAUSE WE'RE JUST COMING TO
YOU, BUT THE CITY WAS INVOLVED IN THE ACTIONS THAT WERE
ILLEGAL.
THEY TAXED THE CEMETERY AFTER THEY WEREN'T PAID.
THEN AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS REALLY HIGH IN THE CONFEDERATE
ARMY AND HIGH IN THE CITY AND COUNTY HERE, HE WAS THE TAX
COLLECTOR, AND HE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS ASSIGNING THE TAXES.
THEN HE SAID HE PAID THE TAXES, SO IT WAS HIS LAND.
WELL, HE WASN'T ABLE TO KEEP IT AT THAT TIME, BUT LATER ON
HE WAS ABLE TO KEEP IT.
AND THEN HE SOLD IT TO THE WHITE MAN FROM WHOM -- TO WHOM --
FROM WHOM DOBY HAD PURCHASED IT.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WHILE YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY

AT THIS TIME DID NOT ENGAGE IN THE ACTIVITIES, THEY DID
EXIST.
AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
FRED HAS SAID AT LEAST TWO TIMES, AND OTHERS HAVE SAID, WHAT
WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO.
ONE LITTLE DEVIATION IN THAT, THAT IS, WE WANT YOU TO --
10:12:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. WILLIAMS.
YOUR TIME IS UP.
I'M SO SORRY.
YOU CAN E-MAIL US ANYTIME, ALL OF US.
E-MAIL THE COUNCIL.
10:12:56AM >> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
10:12:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REVA IMAN.
10:12:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M REVA IMAN.
I'M HERE SPEAKING NOT FOR MYSELF.
I'M HERE SPEAKING FOR THOSE WHO LIE THERE AND MY ANCESTORS.
WHEN I SAY MY ANCESTORS, WHEN THEY BUILT THESE BUSINESSES
AND THE HOUSING ON TOP OF THEM, THEY DISTURBED THE RESTING.
THEY DISTURBED THE RESTING.
I'M SPEAKING FOR MY ANCESTORS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM PEACE.
WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM GRACE.
WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE OUR HANDS AND SAY THANK

YOU.
THIS DAY AND TIME THAT THEY CAN REST IN PEACE IF WE CAN DO
THE RIGHT THINGS TO BRING THAT PEACE TO MY ANCESTORS.
ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ME.
I'M SPEAKING FOR THOSE WHO LIE THERE.
AND WHEN WE ASK FOR $8 MILLION JUST TO THINK I WAS THERE
BECAUSE I WAS STAYING THERE, AND WHEN THEY WERE EXAMINING
GOING ACROSS THERE, I WAS ABLE TO WALK WITH THOSE
INDIVIDUALS AND SEE THE LIGHT UP OF THOSE BODIES.
I WAS THERE WHEN THEY WENT DOWN TO CERTAIN THINGS TO VERIFY
THAT THESE PEOPLE WERE THERE.
IT WAS DISTURBING, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO
BRING PEACE.
WE ASK THAT YOU DO THE RIGHT THING.
I SAID LAST WEEK IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT.
YOU CAN MAKE HISTORY.
YOU CAN BE A PART OF HISTORY.
JUST TO THINK THE CITY IS GROWING, GETTING BIGGER, THINGS
ARE CHANGING.
PUT TROLLEYS GOING DOWN FLORIDA AVENUE.
WHAT A WONDERFUL THING.
VISITORS COME AND SAY ZION, FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERY
THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE PASSING.
THERE'S SOME PLUS TO THIS, BUT THERE'S SOME HURT TO IT AS
WELL.

AND IT HURTS ME MORE BECAUSE I WAS A RESIDENT STAYING THERE.
SEEING WHAT WAS GOING ON, HEARING WHAT WAS GOING ON AND JUST
TO SEE IT.
I REALLY WISH YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND OBSERVE
WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THAT TIME.
I THINK IT WILL PUT CLARITY IN YOUR HEART TO DO THE RIGHT
THING.
SO WE'RE ASKING AS A WHOLE THAT YOU PLEASE NOT FOR ME, BUT
FOR MY ANCESTORS, DO THE RIGHT THING.
THANK YOU.
10:15:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LEROY.
10:16:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
LET ME SAY THIS.
PLEASE DO NOT USE THE TONE OF MY VOICE AS AGGRESSIVE.
10:16:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:16:18AM >> LEROY LENTS, SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, 32-YEAR VETERAN.
PUT THIS ON RECORD, PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE ME BY THE TONE OF MY
VOICE BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I'M CLAIMING IT.
I'M NOT DOWN HERE TO CAUSE A PROBLEM.
I'M DOWN HERE TO START A SOLUTION TO OUR PICKUP GARBAGE AND
IT'S WRONG.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS COMPLETELY WRONG FOR TEN OR MORE
YEARS.

IT'S NOT A BLACK THING.
IT'S NOT A WHITE THING.
IT AIN'T NO RACIST THING.
IT'S ALL ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR EVERY CITIZEN IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA LIMITS.
ABOUT THIS GARBAGE PICKUP.
ON HOLIDAYS, WHEN THE HOLIDAY FALL ON A MONDAY, I AIN'T
GOING TO PUT IT OUT LIKE THIS, BUT EAST TAMPA -- MORE
HOLIDAYS ON MONDAY RATHER THAN TUESDAY, WHICH DOWN SOUTH GET
PICKED UP.
IT'S RIDICULOUS.
ON A HOLIDAY WEEK, WE ALREADY SHORT WHEN WE COME IN BECAUSE
WE ARE ON TEN-HOUR SHIFTS.
BACK IN THE DAY, THEY USED TO CHANGE OUR SHIFT TO FOUR DAYS
BECAUSE THE CITY ONLY PAYING US EIGHT HOURS FOR THE HOLIDAY.
SO 10, 10, 10, 8, ONLY 38 HOURS.
THEY WERE USING PEOPLE ANNUAL TIME TO MAKE UP THE TWO HOURS.
THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
THAT'S ILLEGAL.
THEN THEY GET CLEVER AND TRY TO MAKE UP A 12 HOUR DAY.
HOW YOU MAKE A 12 HOUR DAY OUT OF A TEN HOUR DAY?
THIS CONTRACT.
B 281 A POLICY, PURPOSE, THE CITY RECOGNIZE THAT THE
INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE JOB SECURITY OF ITS
EMPLOYEES DEPENDS UPON CITY SUCCESS IN PROVIDING PROPER AND

EFFECTIVE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.
WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.
I DON'T CARE IF SOMEBODY HOUSE ON FIRE ON A MONDAY, OH,
WE'LL COME BACK ON THE NEXT SCHEDULED DAY.
NO, THEY'LL COME AND PUT THE FIRE OUT.
WHILE THE CUSTOMER -- YOU ALL JUST WENT UP ON THE RATES.
ON JUNE 6, YOU ADOPTED A FIVE-YEAR RATE INCREASE FOR THE
RESIDENTS OF TAMPA.
DIDN'T INCREASE THE RATES BUT AIN'T GIVING THEM THE SERVICE
THEY ARE PAYING FOR.
THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
BACK IN THE DAYS HOW WE USED TO DO IT WHEN I FIRST STARTED
AND THIS WAS BEFORE I STARTED IN 1993, IF A HOLIDAY FALL ON
A MONDAY, WE COME ON A TUESDAY TO PICK UP MONDAY ROUTE.
WEDNESDAY ON OFF DAY, WE PICK UP TUESDAY'S ROUTE AND
THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, WE BACK ON TRACK.
10:19:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:18AM >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
10:19:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BISHOP TOM SCOTT FOLLOWED BY SURGRET DOSS.
10:19:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO
ADDRESS YOU.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:19:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU TAKE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE,

PLEASE.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK.
CAN YOU RESET THE TIME?
10:19:43AM >> LET ME JUST SAY FOR THE RECORD, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING
THIS WAS GOING TO BE IN ORDER IN TERMS OF SPEAKERS.
EVIDENTLY GOT OUT OF LINE WHERE MRS. WILLIAMS WAS GOING TO
SPEAK AND MR. WILSON AND THEN MR. HEARNS AND MYSELF SO THERE
WOULD BE CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY AS OPPOSED TO BEING
BROKEN UP THE WAY IT IS.
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
I NOTICED AS YOU LISTEN TO ALL OF THE PERSONS WHO SPOKE ON
ZION CEMETERY -- DID I STATE MY NAME?
THOMAS SCOTT.
IN CASE I DIDN'T, THOMAS SCOTT, PASTOR OF 34th STREET
CHURCH OF GOD.
I NOTICED YOUR EXPRESSION.
I THINK YOUR EXPRESSION SAID THIS IS A HORRIFIC ISSUE.
THIS ISSUE IS TERRIBLE.
THIS ISSUE SHOULD NOT HAVE EVER HAPPENED.
WHILE YOU DID NOT ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN, THERE WAS THOSE THAT
DID ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN SOME YEARS AGO, AND I WOULD SAY ALL
OF US SHOULD BE APPALLED AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND TAKEN
PLACE AT THE ZION CEMETERY.
I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GOING THERE WITH MRS. WILLIAMS AND
BEING THERE AT THE MEMORIAL SERVICE AND VISITING THE VARIOUS

GRAVE SITES THEY IDENTIFIED.
IN MY OWN MIND, I COULD HARDLY IMAGINE HOW COULD ANYBODY OF
CONSCIOUSNESS ALLOW THIS KIND OF THING TO HAPPEN, TO DISTURB
THE GRAVE SITE, HUMAN BEINGS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED.
SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED.
I KNOW AS YOUR ROLE, THE MAYOR AND HER ADMINISTRATION ARE IN
THAT PART OF ASSOCIATIONS.
PERHAPS YOU CAN REQUEST A BRIEFING TO SEE WHERE THIS IS AND
HOW IT'S BEING DEALT WITH AND HOW IT'S BEING HANDLED BECAUSE
IN TALKING WITH MRS. WILLIAMS, THEY ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED,
SEEM TO BE A DELAY, NOT BEING A MOVEMENT.
SO I STAND TODAY WITH MRS. WILLIAMS AND THE BOARD AND THE
ZION CEMETERY TO SUPPORT THEM IN THIS EFFORT TO TRY TO GET
RESOLUTION TO IT.
IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. RICHARD GONZMART AND
MR. CREED HAVE ALSO AGREED TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE
TRANSITION, OR THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY SO THEY CAN
CORRECT THIS ISSUE AND MAKE THIS COMMUNITY, THE AFRICAN
AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHOLE.
I WOULD URGE YOU TO SEE WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS AND TRY
TO HELP IT TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN BRING PEACE TO THOSE
WHO HAVE DIED AND THEY HAVE BEEN DISTURBED BY THE BUILDING
AND CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSES AND OTHER THINGS ON THIS
CEMETERY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO

AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:22:38AM >> I'M SURGRET DOSS.
10:22:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON.
10:22:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THE CHIEF OF
STAFF AFTER LUNCH, WHATEVER, AND ASK -- AND IF IT IS
POSSIBLE, A MOTION AT THE END OF THIS MEETING THAT WE GET A
WRITTEN UPDATE ON ZION AT A FUTURE MEETING.
10:22:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER.
THANK YOU, SIR.
SURGRET, GO AHEAD.
10:22:57AM >> AGAIN, SURGRET DOSS.
REALLY, I DON'T CARE HOW ANYBODY TAKES IT.
REGARDLESS OF THE STATUS, WHITE FOLKS IN TAMPA HAVE NO
PROBLEM REMINDING BLACK PEOPLE THAT SEE US ANYTHING OTHER
THAN N-ERS.
IN TAMPA WHEN I TALK ABOUT WHITE FOLKS, THOSE CRACKERS
ACROSS THE STREET IN THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, THEY CAN'T
STAND BLACK MEN LIKE ME.
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, THEY LOVE COMPLIANT NEGROES.
ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO LOVE TO MIMIC TALKING POINTS AND
SMILE NICE AND SHUFFLE AND BOOT LICK AND EVEN LET -- FOR A
PAT ON THE HEAD, SOME CRUMBS OFF THE TABLE OR EVEN A COUPLE
OF TRINKETS OF SILVER OR GOLD.
NATURALLY, YOU ALL KNOW I DON'T FIT THAT MOLD.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GOOGLE ME.

I KNOW A LOT OF CRACKERS ACROSS THE STREET HATE IT.
I HAVE A PROBLEM --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:23:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SURGRET, I'M SORRY, I KNOW A COUPLE
WENT BY.
BUT THE RACIAL EPITHETS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU
PARAPHRASE THOSE TO KEEP THE CHAMBERS IN ORDER.
10:24:07AM >> STINKING WHITE PEOPLE.
10:24:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE KIDS IN THE CHAMBER.
10:24:12AM >> YOU WANT ME TO CALIBRATE MY SPEECH.
10:24:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN ADD ONE MINUTE?
10:24:18AM >> WE'LL DO IT YOUR WAY.
INTERESTING, AGAIN.
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IN THE FACT THAT I LIVE IN A COUNTY,
BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL DRIVE OR MOVE AROUND,
THERE IS A 90-FOOT CONFEDERATE FLAG OUT THERE.
USING CERTAIN RACIAL EPITHETS, WHICH IS FUNNY.
WHEN YOU SAY N-ER, THAT'S OKAY --
10:24:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, NO, NO.
10:24:47AM >> LISTEN.
THIS IS CALLED WHAT IT IS.
I LIVE IN A COUNTY WITH A 90-FOOT CONFEDERATE FLAG AT I-4.
THEY ACTUALLY CHANGE IT FROM TIME TO TIME.
I MAY DISAGREE WITH THE FLAG, BUT I DO REMEMBER I TOOK THAT
OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST ALL

ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
REMEMBER.
YOU CAN LOOK AT MY 214 ALSO.
KEEP THAT IN MIND.
WHAT I ASKED YOUR ATTORNEY TO DO THE OTHER WEEK WAS TO LOOK
INTO MY ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THESE PEOPLE.
AGAIN, I DON'T SOFT STEP.
I SPEAK THE LAW, AND THEY HATE IT.
I'M UNWAVERING.
I'LL STAY THAT WAY.
AS A VETERAN, I KNOW THAT I'VE EARNED MINE.
LIKE MOSES IN THE BOOK THAT YOU ALL THUMP A LOT, DESPITE
WHAT THE TRUTH WAS, HARDEN YOUR HEART.
I'M NOT LIKING MYSELF TO MOSES OR ANY OF THE GREAT PEOPLE
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DEPICTED IN THAT BOOK BUT I'VE WALKED
THESE STEPS ON MY OWN.
I'M CLEAR WITH WHAT I SAY.
I'M THE SAME GUY THAT TOOK ON THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FOR
VIOLATIONS IN CHILD SUPPORT AREA.
I WHIPPED YOUR JUDGE AND COP WHO FALSELY ACCUSED ME OF
PERJURY.
I'VE TAKEN ON RECENTLY LAW FIRMS LIKE AUSTIN BASKLE, BANKER,
LOPEZ, BUTLER, KATZ AND CRAIG.
THEY ARE SO UNETHICAL.
LIKE PETTY FOGGER.

THEY USE DUBIOUS TACTICS TO TRY TO GET BY BUT THEY GET HELP
FROM WHITE JUDGES LIKE JUDGE EMILY ANN PEACOCK AND PAUL
HEALY.
OF COURSE, WE KNOW WHAT GREG HOLDER TRIED TO DO TO ME BUT
UNSUCCESSFUL.
HOW MANY BLACK FOLKS THAT DIDN'T HAVE MY WHEREWITHAL THAT
THEY SENT UP THE ROAD FALSELY.
THAT BEING SAID, I HAD TO GO OFF A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE
COUNCILMAN'S SUGGESTION TO ME, ALTHOUGH I DO FIND IT
DISRESPECTFUL CONSIDERING.
TALK ABOUT THAT FLAG, DON'T TALK ABOUT WORDS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT PEOPLE SAY FROM TIME TO
TIME.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN
PEOPLE WEAR ON THEIR SHIRTS OR ON THEIR CLOTHING, BUT I
RESPECT THEIR RIGHT TO USE THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
WE LIKE TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN THE CONSTITUTION APPLIES,
ESPECIALLY WHEN BLACK FOLKS ARE THE ONES WHO WANT TO USE IT.
THAT BEING SAID, SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF
HIGHER LEARNING IN THE CITY, THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS
JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU ALL TAKE CARE.
10:27:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ROBIN LOCKETT FOLLOWED BY ISLEY IRVIN.
ROBIN.

10:27:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS I WANT TO DISCUSS TODAY.
FIRST OF ALL, I AM A BOARD MEMBER OF ZION CEMETERY.
I WAS A RESIDENT OF ROBLES PARK.
ACTUALLY, THE CEMETERY WAS RIGHT UNDER THE APARTMENT THAT WE
LIVED IN, 212 EAST KENTUCKY.
SO IT IS DISTURBING THAT RESIDENCY WAS BUILT ON TOP OF THE
CEMETERY.
IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE SOMETHING HAS BEEN -- PROMISES HAVE
BEEN MADE AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN KEPT.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU FINDING IT IN THE BUDGET.
THE ASKING AMOUNT IS $8 MILLION TO MAKE ZION CEMETERY WHOLE,
RIGHT, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ABOUT REPARATIONS AND MAKING
EVERYBODY WHOLE.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION WHEN IT STARTS TO
HAPPEN.
I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS FOR LOVE, GROW,
THRIVE 2045.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAME OUT.
THEY CAME OUT FOR A SPECIAL MEETING FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS AND
THEN THEIR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING FOR EAST TAMPA.
I APPLAUD THOSE WOMEN -- THE DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT THEY DID.
THEY GAVE GREAT INFORMATION.
IF I HAD ANY CONCERNS, IT WOULD BE THAT WHEN THEY COME OUT

TO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THEY KEPT IDENTIFYING THAT THEY
ARE GOING 35,000 FEET HIGH IN REGARDS TO HOW THEY ARE
LOOKING AT THAT PLAN.
THAT THEY ADDRESS IN REGARDS TO SPEAKING, EXPLAIN WHAT THEY
ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT
DENSITY IS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR
IS.
JUST EXPLAIN AS THEY GO TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE
EXAMPLES TO HELP THE COMMUNITY BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND IT.
THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THEM PUTTING THAT
MEETING ON.
I APPLAUD -- I REALLY APPLAUD THE EMPLOYEES FOR COMING OUT
AND SPEAKING THEIR TRUTH IN REGARDS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN
THE DEPARTMENT THEY WORK IN.
BEING BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU KEEP IT JUST
WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT, NOBODY CAN HEAR IT.
WITH THEM COMING TO COUNCIL, EVERYBODY CAN HEAR IT.
IT'S UP TO SOMEBODY TO MOVE SOME.
PEOPLE CAN'T KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SAME THING AND NOT
GET RECTIFIED.
SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WHOEVER IS LISTENING TO THESE
INDIVIDUALS, THAT THE EMPLOYEES COMING OUT AND BRAVE ENOUGH
TO SPEAK THEIR TRUTH, THAT THEY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
10:30:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE DC GOUTOUFAS

FOLLOWED BY --
10:30:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
DC HAS AN INTERPRETER.
SO HE SAID USUALLY WE ACCOMMODATE HIM WITH AN EXTRA TWO
MINUTES FOR HIS INTERPRETER TO TRANSLATE.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TWO MORE MINUTES.
10:31:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM CARLSON, SECOND FROM HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
GOOD MORNING.
WELCOME, DC.
10:31:12AM >> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.
MY NAME IS JESSICA.
I WILL BE INTERPRETING FOR DC TODAY.
OKAY.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYONE HERE TODAY.
MY NAME IS DC GOUTOUFAS.
I'M HERE IN CONNECTION WITH ITEM 54, WHICH I FIRMLY
SUBMITTED MARCH 25th WITH THE SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO REQUESTING AN HONORARY STREET RENAMING FOR
J. LEONARD LEVY AND GEORGE LEVY, PREFERABLY NEAR THE RAYMOND
JAMES STADIUM.
I'M GRATEFUL TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, CARLSON FOR
INITIATING THE MOTION ON JUNE 5, 2025, AND TO THE CITY AND
STAFF FOR PREPARING TODAY'S PRESENTATION.
I SUBMITTED THE FORMAL REQUEST FOR THIS RENAMING EARLIER

THIS YEAR AFTER WORKING CLOSELY WITH COUNCILMAN GUIDO ON IT
FOR OVER A YEAR.
THE MOTION IS NOW SCHEDULED TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND
THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS NEAR THE RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM,
WHERE THE LEVY BROTHERS LEGACY IS DEEPLY FELT.
THIS MARKS THE THIRD INITIATIVE THAT I HAVE HAD THE
PRIVILEGE TO LEAD WITH OUR CITY.
BEGINNING WITH THE GOVERNMENT ACCESS TELEVISION CAPTIONING
DURING THE 1990s, FOLLOWED BY THE HONORARY STREET RENAMING
FOR THE JAMES URBANSKI NEAR DOWNTOWN TAMPA A COUPLE OF YEARS
AGO.
GEORGE LEVY, THE BROTHERS WERE MORE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMEN,
THEY WERE -- I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M SO NERVOUS READING THIS.
THEY WERE THE CIVIC VISIONARIES AND PROUD SONS OF TAMPA WHO
DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO ELEVATING THE CITY'S NATIONAL
PROFILE.
BEGINNING IN THE 1970s, LEVY BROTHERS PLAYED THE CRUCIAL
ROLE IN BRINGING THE NFL TO TAMPA.
THEY JOINED A SMALL BUT DETERMINED GROUP THAT WORKED
TIRELESSLY WITH COMMISSIONER PETE ROSELLE AND THE TEAM
OWNERS TO ADVOCATE FOR A FRANCHISE.
THEIR EFFORTS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN TAMPA BEING AWARDED THE
BUCCANEERS IN 1974, WHICH WAS A MILESTONE IN CHANGING THE
TRAJECTORY OF OUR CITY FOREVER.
THEIR LEADERSHIP DID NOT STOP THERE.

THE LEVY BROTHERS HELPED PUSH THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION OF
THE ORIGINAL TAMPA STADIUM AND LATER NAVIGATED THE POLITICS
THAT LED TO THE RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
THEY WERE THE KEY PLAYERS IN SECURING THE FIVE SUPER BOWLS
FOR TAMPA, ALONG WITH NCAA MEN'S FINAL FOUR AND THE COLLEGE
FOOTBALL PLAYOFF AND THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS.
THEY CHAMPIONED THE USF AND UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA ATHLETICS,
AND THEY SUPPORTED THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING, AND THEY HAD
HELPED GREAT THE SPORTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
IN 2021, THE SUPER BOWL GENERATED MORE THAN 570 MILLION FOR
THE REGION AND EACH YEAR.
THE BUCCANEERS ALONE CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN 100 MILLION IN
THE LOCAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
THESE ARE NOT JUST NUMBERS, BUT THEY REFLECT A LEGACY THAT
CONTINUES TO BENEFIT EVERY CORNER OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AS A FOURTH GENERATION TAMPANIAN, I CARRY A DEEP SENSE OF
PRIDE AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CITY'S PAST, PRESENT, AND
FUTURE.
MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS THE FIRST GREEK TO SETTLE IN TAMPA
IN 1887.
IN 1990, I BECAME THE FIRST DEAF GRADUATE TO GRADUATE FROM
THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
I GREW UP HEARING STORIES ABOUT THE LEVY BROTHERS FROM MY
LATE FATHER WHO KNEW THEM AS CHILDHOOD NEIGHBORS.
THEIR STORY IS TAMPA'S STORY, AND IT DESERVES TO BE

REMEMBERED.
AN HONORARY STREET RENAMING IS FITTING AND A LASTING TRIBUTE
TO TWO MEN WHOSE VISION HELPED BUILD THE TAMPA BAY WE KNOW
AND LOVE TODAY.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN MOVING FORWARD, AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
10:34:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T THINK WE GOT BOTH OF YOUR NAMES.
STATE BOTH OF THE NAMES FOR US PLEASE.
BOTH NAMES.
10:34:49AM >> DUVALIS GOUTOUFAS.
JESSICA PREVADA.
10:34:54AM >> I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR GIVING US TIME TO SPEAK.
10:35:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:03AM >> YOU DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR OUR CITY.
10:35:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
CURTIS WILSON, FOLLOWED BY JARVIS.
CURTIS WILSON.
GOOD MORNING.
10:35:45AM >> THANK YOU.
10:35:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GET BY WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM YOUR
FRIENDS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
10:35:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I AM CURTIS WALKER WILSON.
I AM HERE AS THE VOICE FOR THOSE FROM MY ERA WHO ARE NO

LONGER HERE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
THE ONES WHO WERE THERE WHEN THE CEMETERY, ZION CEMETERY WAS
TAKEN FROM THEM.
I AM 96 YEARS OLD.
IF I LIVE TO SEE NEXT WEDNESDAY, I WILL BE 97.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I AM THE VOICE FOR THOSE PEOPLE THIS MORNING.
THE ONES WHO WERE THERE, THEY WERE SEEN BUT NOT HEARD.
THEIR VOICES MEANT NOTHING WHEN THEY TRIED TO SAVE THE
CEMETERY.
SO I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THIS ZION CEMETERY COMMITTEE IN
THEIR EFFORTS TO BRING THIS CEMETERY BACK TO LIFE.
I KNOW THAT'S AN OXYMORON, BUT THAT'S HOW I TALK.
[ LAUGHTER ]
WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO LIFE.
WE WAITED LONG ENOUGH.
WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THAT MORNING TO BRING IT BACK.
RIGHT NOW -- I AM ENTERTAINING POSITIVE VIBES ABOUT IT
BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE, THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU FOR QUITE
SOME TIME NOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING HERE.
I AM THE VOICE FOR A COMMUNITY, A VIBRANT COMMUNITY, RATHER,
OF FAMILIES, HOMEOWNERS.
THEY WERE HOMEOWNERS, MODEST HOMES, BUT THEY WERE
HOMEOWNERS.

ROBLES POND, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED BACK THEN, WAS A
VIBRANT COMMUNITY OF HOMEOWNERS AND MANY OF THEM, THEY HAD
LARGE FAMILIES AND MOST OF THEM WENT ON AND DID WELL FOR
THEMSELVES.
THE WILSONS, THE DENNARDS, THE JAMES FAMILY, THE SUTTON
FAMILY, THE SIMMONS FAMILY, WILLIAMS FAMILIES, TWO SETS OF
WILLIAMS OUT THERE.
MYERS FAMILY.
LOGAN, PATTERSON, THOMPSON, FLUKIER, STONE.
THERE WAS A SCHOOL, ROBLES POND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THREE CHURCHES, TWO BAPTIST CHURCHES AND AN AFRICAN
METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH.
I AM ACCOMPANIED BY MY PASTOR TODAY.
WE STAND HERE IN SUPPORT WITH THIS COMMITTEE TRYING TO GET
THIS CEMETERY RESTORED.
TO ME, IT IS SACRED.
IT'S SACRED.
I'M ASKING FOR A VOTE OF YEA ON THIS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD
EXPEDITIOUSLY, GET THIS CEMETERY BACK WHERE IT WAS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. WILSON.
MR. HEARNS, I HOPE YOU HAVE HER TESTIMONY ON VIDEO.
POINT OF ORDER.
10:39:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I NOW COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO IS TALKING
ABOUT GETTING THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO COME UP SOME OTHER TIME,

BUT HE'S HERE, AND THE PEOPLE ARE HERE.
SHOULDN'T WE GIVE HIM A MINUTE TO RESPOND OR TWO MINUTES TO
RESPOND?
CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING IN RESPONSE TO WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT WITH ZION?
THEY ARE JUST ASKING FOR AN UPDATE ON ZION.
I WAS JUST THINKING SINCE EVERYBODY IS HERE, YOU COULD
ADDRESS THEM NOW.
10:39:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I STEPPED IN THE BACK REAL QUICK TO ASK
LISA TO CALL YOU, BUT YOU ARE HERE.
AT THE END OF THE MEETING, IF IT WOULD BE PROPER TO MAKE A
MOTION FOR A WRITTEN UPDATE FOR SEPTEMBER 18 OR OCTOBER 9
JUST TO GET AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY
OWNERS.
I KNOW THERE WAS A NEWS STORY ABOUT A MONTH AGO THAT
PROGRESS WAS BEING MADE WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND
FIGURING THAT SITUATION OUT.
10:40:01AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHOULD WE GIVE HIM A MINUTE IF --
10:40:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO GIVE
CHIEF BENNETT A MINUTE TO RESPONSE.
SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CHIEF BENNETT.

10:40:14AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING.
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT REPRESENTATION OF SOMETHING NEAR
AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE I SERVED THE COMMUNITY FOR 40
YEARS, I KNOW WE BUILT THE RICH OUT, RESOURCES COMMUNITY
HOME FOR THE COMMUNITY TO FLOURISH.
WE WATCHED THE JOURNEY AS ADMINISTRATION.
I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING ON THE MEMORIAL.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I REMEMBER NURTURING THAT IDEA WHEN
EVERYTHING CAME TO LIGHT ABOUT HAVING THE MEMORIAL.
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF COMPLEXITY BETWEEN LAND AND THE
MEMORIAL AND THE DESIGN AND, OF COURSE, THE FINANCING.
BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT BASED ON THE MOTION THAT WAS JUST
DRAFTED TO BE FORMALIZED, THE CITY WILL GIVE A FULL-THROATED
UPDATE AS SOON AS THE MOTION LANDS AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
IS FULLY AWARE.
I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS NOTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF WITH OUR
STAFF THAT IS DOING ANYTHING BUT SUPPORTING THIS TO -- HOW
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND WE'LL GET YOU MORE
SPECIFICS AS WE JOURNEY ON.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, COUNCIL.
10:41:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU ALL FOR TURNING OUT TODAY.
VERY NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AND ALL MY FRIENDS ON THE BUS.
WE'LL GIVE A MINUTE FOR EVERYBODY TO CLEAR OUT.

JARVIS, YOU WILL BE NEXT TO SPEAK.
10:41:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN MY MOM AND MY
GRANDPARENTS CAME FROM CUBA AND CAME TO TAMPA, THEY LIVED AT
ROBLES PARK AT THE BEGINNING, BEFORE THEY RENTED A HOUSE.
I HAVE A PICTURE OF MY MOTHER IN THE DOORWAY.
10:41:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAN I SAY, IF I MAY?
WALTER, I LOVE THAT SHIRT.
I THINK THAT EVERY DAY.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:42:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL, COME TO ORDER.
JARVIS EL-AMIN.
10:42:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JARVIS EL-AMIN, TAMPA, 4818 EAST 99th AVENUE.
I ALSO SIT ON THE RECONCILIATION COMMISSION, TOO.
I'M HERE BECAUSE I WAS INVITED HERE BY MS. GERALDINE
WILLIAMS AND HER SON WALTER GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
BISHOP THOMAS SCOTT.
I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU FOR REAL.
I THINK ABOUT THE ZION CEMETERY, I THINK ABOUT BLACK WALL
STREET.
I THINK ABOUT BOMBING 900 BUSINESSES, JUST DESTROYING THE
LAND.
I THINK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE FELT THAT WAS JEWISH WHEN THEY GOT
REPARATIONS FOR WHAT WAS DONE TO THEM.
I THINK ABOUT THE JAPANESE AND WHAT HAPPENED IN REPARATION.

I THINK ABOUT US AS AFRICAN AMERICAN BLACK PEOPLE THAT HAVE
BEEN SLAVERY, SUFFERING, AND DEATH FOR 438 YEARS.
I REMEMBER GROWING UP IN GEORGIA WHEN THE CEMETERIES WERE
SEGREGATED.
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THE KIND OF HATE THAT PEOPLE COULD HAVE
IN THEIR HEART.
DISTURB THE DEAD.
MY FAITH, TRADITION SAYS THAT THE DEAD CAN HEAR YOU TALK,
BUT THEY CAN'T TALK BACK TO YOU.
I GO TO THE GRAVEYARD AND TALK TO JIMMY BELL, MY MAMA, AND
TALK TO HER BECAUSE I KNOW SHE HEAR ME.
I'M THINKING IF JIMMY BELL WAS IN THAT GRAVE, ZION, I CAN
IMAGINE THIS WOMAN THAT RAISED ME SO WELL, HOW SHE WOULD
FEEL IF THEY START BUILDING ON TOP OF HER GRAVE.
JIMMY BELL WOULD TALK ABOUT.
SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN MAD, START RATTLING THE GRAVE.
UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU?
THIS IS AMAZING.
THEY DIDN'T PUT THE TIME ON ME.
THEY STARTED LATE.
IT'S OKAY.
ALL I HAD TO DO WAS INJECT JIMMY BELL NAME AND ALL HAPPENS
GOOD FOR ME.
IT'S ON YOU, TOO, CHAIRMAN.
WHAT --

10:44:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CAN'T CONFIRM OR DENY THE TIME THAT IT
STARTED BECAUSE I HAVE THREE REALLY GOOD FRIENDS UP THERE.
10:44:26AM >> LET ME SAY THAT ON THE REAL TIP.
EACH ONE OF YOU ALL RAN FOR OFFICE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL.
THE POLITICAL WILL TO TAKE POLITICS OUT OF IT.
I HATE WHEN POLITICIANS SAY PUBLIC SERVANTS.
NO, YOU ARE POLITICIAN.
IF YOU ARE A PUBLIC SERVANT, THESE KIND OF ISSUES THAT COME
BEFORE YOU, PULL AT YOUR HEARTSTRINGS.
IT WOULD PULL AT YOUR HEARTSTRINGS.
WHEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CREATED
THAT WE MAY KNOW EACH OTHER, NOT DESPISE EACH OTHER.
WE'RE KEEPING OUR DUTY TO GOD.
THIS LADY -- 38 YEARS AGO, GET THEM TO SUPPORT EVENTS I WAS
DOING.
ALWAYS WROTE ME A CHECK AND SHE WAS THERE.
I NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.
SHE'S 90 SOME YEARS OLD NOW.
COUNCIL, I'M SAYING TO YOU, PLEASE, FIND THE POLITICAL WILL,
FIND IT IN YOUR HEART, MR. CHAIRMAN, ALL OF YOUR CITY
COUNCIL.
WE KNOW ALL OF YOU ALL.
LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?

ARE YOU CURIOUS?
IF YOU ARE CURIOUS, BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND MAKE IT
HAPPEN.
10:45:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, JARVIS.
ISLEY FOLLOWED BY STEVE BYRD.
WE HAVE FOUR MORE SPEAKERS, FYI.
MR. IRVIN.
ISLEY IRVIN GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, GONE.
STEVE BYRD FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW.
10:46:08AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M STEVE BYRD.
I LIVE AT 810 EAST SKAGWAY RIGHT IN THE THICK OF THINGS.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE POOL TODAY.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT DONE AND A LOT OF PROMISES MADE
AND SO FORTH.
I'M JUST GETTING UP TO SPEED ON IT.
IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS DON'T WANT INPUT.
IT WAS HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHEN -- IT MOVES ALONG REALLY
FAST.
I'M AFRAID THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REPRESENTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD
HAVE ACCEPTED THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY PROMISES, TOO MANY
STUDIES.
ANY OTHER AREA OF THE TOWN, THE CITY, IT WOULD BE DONE NOW.
AND IT'S PATHETIC.
I HEAR THINGS LIKE, WELL, PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T

SWIM.
THEY DON'T SWIM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A POOL.
THEY'LL DROWN WHEN IT RAINS.
THEY NEED TO SWIM.
THANK YOU.
10:47:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ASHLEY MORROW, FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:47:16AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I'M A FIFTH GENERATION TAMPANIAN, AND I LOVE BLACK HISTORY.
SINCE I SEE THAT PEOPLE COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING, I CAN COME
UP AND TALK ABOUT BLACK HISTORY AND PUT IT ON RECORD.
I SAY I'M A FIFTH GENERATION TAMPANIAN.
I'M THE GREAT, GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER OF WILLIE MAE LUNSFORD,
WHO HAD LUCILLE LUNSFORD, WHO HAD KARL MORROW, SENIOR, WHO
HAD KARL MORROW, JUNIOR, WHO HAD MYSELF.
MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE IN TAMPA FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND I AM INVESTED IN LEARNING AND SHARING ALL OF TAMPA'S
BLACK HISTORY.
MY FATHER'S UNCLE, MY GREAT UNCLE'S NAME WAS NORRIS MORROW.
HE WAS A WHITE HAT DURING THE 1967 TAMPA RIOTS.
THAT RIOT HAPPENED AFTER MARTIN CHAMBERS WAS SHOT IN THE
BACK BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'M NOT HERE TO RAIL AGAINST THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.

IT IS SOMETHING I DID NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL AND SOMETHING VERY
IMPORTANT THAT HAPPENED IN TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
AFTER THAT, THERE WAS A RECKONING ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE,
BELMONT HEIGHTS.
ALSO MY FAMILY CAME OUT OF BELMONT HEIGHTS, ALONG EMMA
STREET.
ALL THOSE THINGS MAKE ME AND IS A PART OF ME AND MY LEGACY.
BACK TO MY UNCLE.
HE GOES TO D.C. AND HE SPEAKS DURING A HEARING.
THIS IS ON TV.
I REMEMBER MY FATHER PROBABLY TOLD ME THIS TEN YEARS AGO.
DIDN'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO IT.
IT WASN'T UNTIL I SPOKE TO MR. HEARNS AND HE SHARED THIS
HISTORY WITH ME.
HE SAID, NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY IMPORTANT.
I FEEL LIKE TAMPA DOESN'T SHARE.
IT DOESN'T ELEVATE ITS BLACK HISTORY BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE
KNOW WHO THEY ARE, THEY START TO PUT VALUE ON THEIR LIVES.
FOR ME, I FELT LIKE A MORE IMPORTANT PERSON JUST BECAUSE OF
WHO THIS MAN WAS.
AND I DID NOT KNOW.
KNEW EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE MAN BUT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT
THIS.
SOMETHING I LEARNED A FEW YEARS AGO THROUGH A BOOK CALLED
TAMPA HISTORY, I BELIEVE BY CANTOR BROWN, ABOUT THE

RECONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
HE TALKS ABOUT A TAMPA MILITIA LED BY A THOMAS McKNIGHT
WHO WAS ONE OF THE STARTERS OF THE HARLEM ACADEMY.
THIS IS A LIST OF BLACK PEOPLE THAT WERE ON A BLACK MILITIA
HERE IN 1870.
FIVE YEARS AFTER SLAVERY ENDS HERE -- SIX YEARS, ACTUALLY,
1864.
SO THESE PEOPLE'S NAMES ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT.
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE AND CITIZENS HERE STILL IN TAMPA, AND
THEIR LEGACY IS IMPORTANT.
ONE NAME THAT YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE AND I WAS LOOKING IT UP,
BRYANT HORTON, DR. SAM HORTON BUILDING LOCATED ON 40th AND
21st.
BIG PIC BUILDING.
HE IS HIS DESCENDANT, AND THERE ARE OTHER NAMES.
ANDREW STILLING WHO HAS A SUBDIVISION HERE IN TAMPA.
I WILL STOP RIGHT THERE.
I'LL BE HERE NEXT WEEK.
THAT'S MY TIME.
10:50:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
VALERIE, I DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOR YOU.
DID YOU FILL ONE OUT?
MS. POYNOR, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:50:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.

STEPHANIE POYNOR.
YOU KNOW, ON MONDAY, WE HAD A BUDGET MEETING AND ABOUT FIVE
MINUTES I CALCULATED $8 MILLION THAT WE COULD BE USING FOR A
CEMETERY.
OH, MY GOSH.
THIS IS OUR LIST FROM 2023.
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE FEES HAVE ACTUALLY
BEEN RAISED SINCE 2023.
I'M THINKING THE ANSWER IS ZERO.
THE ONLY FEE I KNOW OF THAT I'VE SEEN THAT'S BEEN CHANGED
SINCE THE LIST WE RECEIVED IN 2023 AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
WAS FOR THE SIDEWALK FUNDS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S EVEN ON THAT LIST.
SO THAT'S MY ONLY KNOWLEDGE.
NOW, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU KNOW I LOVE
THE BUDGET.
I WAS LOOKING AT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT LAST NIGHT.
THIS WAS IN A MEETING.
I WAS NOTICING THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN LESS MONEY OVER TIME.
NOW, WHEN MS. FEELEY CAME BEFORE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IN
MARCH OF 2024, SHE SAID THAT THERE WAS A FEE STUDY BEING
DONE FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT.
WHERE IS IT?
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S DONE.
THERE IS ALSO A FEE STUDY -- THERE WAS ALSO A FEE STUDY

BEING DONE FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE HAVE THESE CHARGES FOR
SERVICES ON BOTH OF THESE, AND THEY DON'T REALLY SEEM TO
MATCH UP.
YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH ONE ANOTHER.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT IS, WE
GOT CHARGES FOR SERVICES, WHICH IS A PITTANCE.
$600,000.
WHERE THIS INTERGOVERNMENTAL MONEY IS THAT THE MONEY WE WERE
SUPPLEMENTING THESE FEES?
BECAUSE I REMEMBER, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE WAS A BIG
CHUNK OF MONEY THAT WE WEREN'T COVERING.
SO IF A SERVICE COST, IF A SERVICE IS BEING CHARGED A
HUNDRED DOLLARS IT ACTUALLY COSTS THE CITY A THOUSAND
DOLLARS TO DO THAT SERVICE.
WHO IS PAYING THE DIFFERENCE?
EVERYBODY WHO PAYS TAXES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS PAYING THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE $100 AND THOUSAND DOLLARS.
$900 IS COMING OUT OF OUR POCKETS.
I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WHERE I SEE THIS ISSUE.
THIS IS NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT.
THEY CAME IN JANUARY OF 2023.
I DON'T THINK THESE FEES HAVE BEEN CHANGED.
WE WERE LOSING MONEY ON OUR BUSINESS TAX.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHEET I GAVE YOU, THAT BUSINESS TAX HAS

NOT BEEN INCREASED SINCE 1991.
1991.
OH, MY GOD.
I WAS 20 YEARS OLD.
ANYWAY, THE PERSONNEL COST, THIS LIST IS HUGE.
BOTTOM LINE, FIRST ONE, LOSING $541,000 THAT WE LOST THAT
YEAR.
ANOTHER BIG CHUNK OF MONEY, WE LOST $75,000 ON THESE FEES.
WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF MONEY THAT THE CITY COULD HAVE TO PAY
TAXES.
AND WHAT MADE ME DIG INTO THIS IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS KEPT
TALK, LIKE SCOPE CREEP ABOUT A MILLAGE INCREASE.
LET'S CHARGE WHAT THE SERVICES COST FOR THE SERVICES.
AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA SHOULD NOT BE OFFSETTING THOSE
FEES.
I ALSO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE
PROJECTED $700,000 AND SPENT 11 MILLION.
HOW DO YOU MISS 10.3 MILLION.
10:54:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
10:54:06AM >> HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:54:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:54:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON.
THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD MEETING FOR ME TODAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE
ALL SEEN THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED MOLD ME AND MADE ME INTO WHO

I AM.
MS. CURTIS WILSON, YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW HER, BUT WE KNOW HER
BECAUSE THEY HAD WILSON FUNERAL HOME.
AND IN THE '60s, IF YOUR SHOES WERE RAGGEDY, HER BROTHERS
WOULD CALL YOU OVER THERE AND ASK WHO YOUR PARENTS WAS AND
THEY WOULD BUY YOU SHOES.
THEY DID A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT BUILDING SOME APARTMENTS, LET'S PUT HER
NAME ON THEM.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING.
THE JACKSON HOUSE, TO BE SPECIFIC, I HAD CAME DOWN HERE I
GUESS TUESDAY WHEN IT WAS ALL ON THE NEWS.
THOUGHT I WOULD GET PIECE OF WOOD, SCARED TO GET CLOSE TO
IT.
BUT WE NEED TO GET WITH MRS. COLINS, WE NEED AN UPDATE, WHEN
ARE YOU GOING TO START.
EVERYTHING YOU WANTED FELL INTO PLACE.
NOW, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, LET'S GET IT GOING.
ANOTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WAS HOUSING.
AND HOW HOUSING IS TIED INTO RESOLUTION 568 AND 344.
WE USED TO HAVE RED LINING.
WE USED TO HAVE THE HOUSES DOWN THERE BEHIND BLUE RIBBON IN
THE BOTTOM.
THEY WERE SUBSTANDARD HOUSING.
URBAN RENEWAL CAME THROUGH, TOLD YOU THE HOUSE WASN'T FIT

FOR LIVING, SO THEY BUILT YOU A HOUSE AND YOU GOT FUNDING.
WHAT I'M SEEING GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA, I WAS AT CRA.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT.
I TALKED TO CDC.
YOU ALL PUTTING IN THOSE 79 UNIT APARTMENTS THERE, WHY ARE
THEY ALL TWO BEDROOMS.
WHY AREN'T THERE THREE BEDROOMS.
NOT ALWAYS THE PERFECT FAMILY.
BOY AND GIRL.
SOME HAVE FOUR AND FIVE CHILDREN.
EVERYBODY FOCUSING IN ON TWO BEDROOM AND ONE BATH.
WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THREE, FOUR, FIVE KIDS.
WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO?
ANYBODY THINK ABOUT THAT?
WE NEED SOME THREE-BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
ONLY ONES I KNOW ABOUT, THE OLD FUN-LAN PUT 6 IN THERE.
THE CUBAN GUY WHO I DON'T KNOW, THEY GOT THOSE RIGHT THERE
ON 22nd STREET AND COLUMBUS DRIVE.
WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS, BIGGER THAN TWO BEDROOM.
WE NEED SOME THREE-BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
I REALLY FEEL LIKE ME AND THE PUBLIC GOT BAMBOOZLED.
EVERYBODY IS PUSHING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
YES, AFFORDABLE, BUT HUNDRED, HUNDRED, 120 PERCENT OF THE
AMI, WHAT ABOUT THE 30 AND 50 PERCENT, THE PEOPLE BEING LEFT
BEHIND.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
WE START BUILDING HOUSES AND APARTMENTS, WE NEED TO SPLIT
THEM.
HALF FOR 30 AND 50 PERCENT.
HALF FOR 80 AND 120 PERCENT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT TO BUILD
TEN APARTMENTS, TWO 30% INCOME, THE REST OF THEM IS FOR HIGH
INCOME.
SO WE ARE STILL BEING LEFT BEHIND.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
10:57:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. HEARNS, I DON'T THINK YOU HEARD ME
EARLIER, I HOPE YOU GOT MS. CURTIS' HISTORY ON TAPE.
SOUNDS LIKE SHE HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT HER LIFE IN
THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC SAFETY, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE ITEMS 3-5.
10:57:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
10:57:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SEPARATE VOTE FOR

NUMBER 9.
10:57:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PULL 9 FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
10:57:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BEFORE WE DO THIS, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO
SPEAK.
ONE OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTERS TALKED ABOUT THE SULPHUR
SPRINGS RESTORATION.
I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE.
THIS $1.8 MILLION GOES TO RENOVATE OR TO FIX THE SEAWALL AND
TO DO SOME OF THE INJECTIONS OF THEY CALL IT MORTAR TO GO
UNDER THE POOL TO HELP STABILIZE IT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING FOR.
THIS WILL GET STARTED.
AND WE WILL SEE WHERE WE ARE AFTER THAT.
BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY MOVING ALONG.
ENGINEERS TAKE A WHILE.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT.
ALSO, THERE IS A SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL COMMITTEE TO
DEFINITELY SEARCH FOR THEM.
IF I COULD GET MS. SCHARF TO COME OUT.
MY AIDE WILL MEET YOU AND LET YOU KNOW WHO IS IN CHARGE SO
YOU CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
I MOVE ITEMS 6 THROUGH 14 BUT NOT 9.
10:58:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:59:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOW I MOVE ITEM 9.
10:59:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE
ITEM 9.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
OPPOSED?
10:59:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NAY.
10:59:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLERK, CAN YOU READ THAT VOTE?
10:59:19AM >>THE CLERK:
THE ITEM PASSES WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
VOTING NO.
10:59:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE MOVING ON TO INFRASTRUCTURE.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PULLED ITEM 20.
10:59:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE ITEMS -- I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE
ITEMS 15 THROUGH 21, MINUS 20 BECAUSE IT WAS PULLED AND FOR
15, THAT IS A BEAUT.
10:59:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
HEAR ITEM 20 AS FIRST STAFF REPORT.

FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:59:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEMS 22-25.
11:00:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE.
11:00:09AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FOR NUMBER 33 AND
FILE A FORM LATER.
MY COMPANY WORKS WITH A COMPANY THAT'S RELATED TO THIS.
I'LL RECUSE MYSELF.
I MOVE 26 THROUGH 32 AND THEN 34 THROUGH 35.
11:00:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
FOR ITEM 33, WE ARE PULLING THAT SEPARATELY.
THAT WOULD BE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:00:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEM 33.
11:00:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MOVING
ITEM 33.
SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOBILITY ASSET MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE --
11:00:53AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING.
11:00:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FILE THE FORM LATER.
MOBILITY ASSET COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, 36-43.
11:01:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 36-43.
11:01:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN.
LIKE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 AND 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
I HAD A SECOND ON THAT AS WELL.
I THINK IT WAS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
HERE WE ARE.
ITEM NUMBER 44.
11:01:51AM >> ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, PRESENTING FILE

VAC-24-12, FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:01:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
11:02:04AM >> TERESA McNEIL.
I AM THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
11:02:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM IS OUT.
WE'LL HAVE TO DO A VERBAL ROLL CALL VOTE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:02:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 44.
[INAUDIBLE]
-- SUBDIVISION RECORDED IN BOOK 4169, PAGE 1044, OF THE
OFFICIAL RECORDS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, O.R., AND
A PORTION OF GREEN AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT LIES IN THE PLAT
OF BROBSTON-FENDING COMPANY'S HALFWAY ADDITION AS RECORDED
IN O.R. PLAT BOOK 2 AT PAGE 78, AND A PORTION OF THE UNNAMED
AND UNPLATTED RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT ABUTS INTERBAY BOULEVARD IN
TAMPA, FLORIDA, ALL OF WHICH ARE LOCATED NORTH OF INTERBAY
BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF THORNTON AVENUE, EAST OF 1st STREET,
AND WEST OF ELKINS AVENUE AND ARE MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS

AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING
CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:03:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
CLERK, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
11:03:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:03:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:04:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:04:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:04:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:04:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:04:08AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:04:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 45.
11:04:13AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
PRESENTING FILE VAC 25-07 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:04:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:04:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT'S ON BECAUSE I LEFT IT ON.
IF WE TAKE A VOTE, NEED ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.
LOOKING AND TWO NOES ON THIS ONE.
11:04:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S TAKE A STRATEGIC JEOPARDY PAUSE.

APPLICANT?
11:04:52AM >> I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:04:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE
APPLICANT?
HEARING NO QUESTIONS, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT IS HERE TO
SPEAK TO ITEM 45?
HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 45?
11:05:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
FILE NUMBER VAC-25-07, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING
THE ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF ABDELLA STREET, SOUTH OF DEWEY
STREET AND EAST OF MATANZAS AVENUE, AND WEST OF MacDILL
AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF JOHN H. DREW'S FIRST EXTENSION IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE
FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY
SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES
FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS

AND REPEALING CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:05:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:05:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:05:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:05:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
11:05:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:05:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:05:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
11:05:57AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND CLENDENIN
VOTING NO.
11:06:01AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:06:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
ITEM 46.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WAS ABSENT AT THIS VOTE, BUT I
REVIEWED THE RECORD AND I'M READY TO VOTE.
11:06:14AM >> MALORY LAGASSE, REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
AGENDA ITEM 46 IS THE SECOND READING FOR THE HONORARY NAMING
OF THE MULTISPORT FIELD AT FOREST HILLS PARK IN HONOR OF
ROLAND PAZ, SENIOR.
11:06:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 46?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM HURTAK, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ONE?
11:06:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AS A COUNCILWOMAN, YES, I WILL.
FILE HN25-15718, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, APPROVING THE NAME OF THE MULTI-SPORTS FIELD AT
FOREST HILLS PARK IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO HONOR ROLAND PAZ
SENIOR, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:07:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR READING THAT MOTION.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:07:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:07:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:07:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:07:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:07:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:07:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:07:33AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:07:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 47 TO NOVEMBER 6,
2025, 10:30 A.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA,

FLORIDA, 33602.
11:07:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CONTINUE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM 48.
11:07:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
ITEM 48 ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE
ADOPTION OF THE CITY'S ANNUAL NON-AD VALOREM STORMWATER
SERVICE ASSESSMENT ROLL.
THE PURPOSE OF THE ASSESSMENT IS TO GENERATE FUNDS TO BE
UTILIZED BY THE CITY'S STORMWATER UTILITY IN THE PROVISION
OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
TO DEVELOP PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN INCORPORATED BOUNDARIES
OF THE CITY OF TAMPA OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE CITY'S
STORMWATER SERVICE AREA.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS ASSESSMENT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN
2003.
THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT RATE THIS YEAR IS $82 PER ESU,
EQUIVALENT STORMWATER UNIT, AND HAS REMAINED THE SAME SINCE
2015.
NO WRITTEN OBJECTIONS OR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT HAVE BEEN

RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM.
AS WITH ALL NON-AD VALOREM HEARINGS, PLEASE RECALL THAT THE
VOTE NEEDS TO OCCUR WHILE THE HEARING IS STILL OPEN.
STAFF AND I ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
PLEASE ALSO REMEMBER TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:09:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:09:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO ASK AGAIN, IS THERE ANY CHANGE
IN THE RATE?
11:09:12AM >>McLANE EVANS:
NO, THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE RATE.
IT HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE 2015.
11:09:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I LIKE TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
11:09:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
ON ITEM 48?
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:09:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THESE FUNDS ARE ONLY SPENT ON
STORMWATER SERVICES.
I WAS INFORMED BY SOMEBODY IN THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT THAT
SHE SAID THAT THE FEES REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED SINCE WHATEVER
YEAR IT WAS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT THEY DIDN'T TAKE
INTO ACCOUNT FOR SALARY INCREASES.
SO MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT IN PUTTING

THAT INTO PLACE.
I ACTUALLY HAD A REALLY NICE LADY WHO CAME TO ME YESTERDAY,
AND SHE ASKED ME IF SHE HAD A ROW OF TOWNHOMES.
SOME OF THEM PAID TWO ASSESSMENTS.
THERE WERE SEVEN TOWNHOMES.
SOME OF THEM PAID TWO ASSESSMENTS AND THE OTHER FIVE ONLY
PAID ONE.
I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHY THAT WOULD BE.
WE'LL DIG FURTHER.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STORMWATER PEOPLE ARE
WORKING ONLY ON STORMWATER.
THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.
AND THAT STORMWATER IS ONLY PAYING FOR STORMWATER PEOPLE
BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO
WERE IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WHO WERE BEING PAID WITH
STORMWATER.
I'M ALL FOR THIS.
IF WE HAVE TO RAISE IT TO HELP PEOPLE'S HOUSES NOT GET
FLOODED, THEN MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO.
BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT STORMWATER IS BEING SPENT FOR
STORMWATER AND NOTHING ELSE.
THANK YOU.
11:10:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
STATE YOUR NAME.
11:10:50AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.

FIRST, THANKS TO HAGAR FOR DOING THE DEEP DIVE INTO THE
STORMWATER FUNDING ISSUES AND ALLOCATIONS.
IT'S APPARENT THAT MAINTENANCE IS A SERIOUS AND CONTINUING
ISSUE, AND WE'VE AVOIDED IT FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT'S
IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD TO HAVE A WORK PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES
ON MAINTENANCE FIRST BEFORE WE START UNDERTAKING MAJOR
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND APPEARS THROUGH THE RESEARCH
THAT A WHOLE GROUP OF TEAMS OF NEIGHBORS AND BUSINESSES HAVE
CONDUCTED THAT SOME OF THE STORMWATER FACILITIES ARE NOT
FUNCTIONING, HAVEN'T FUNCTIONED, AND WON'T FUNCTION WITHOUT
SERIOUS MAINTENANCE BEING CONDUCTED.
IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD, AND
HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AND
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FOR SETTING UP A SEPARATE MEETING ON
MONDAY.
I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE AN OVERFLOWING CROWD.
ANYWAY, APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S ACTION.
AS I SAY, GOING FORWARD, AN UNDERSTANDABLE WORK PROGRAM
REGARDING MAINTENANCE SHOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY AND
HAVING THE SPECIFIC MANPOWER AND EQUIPMENT TO CONDUCT THAT
MAINTENANCE IS THE SECOND PART OF THAT.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
11:12:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THIS ONE YET.
WE KEEP THIS ONE OPEN BECAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE THE
RESOLUTION.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE THE
RESOLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM 48.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:12:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:12:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:12:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:12:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:12:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:12:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:12:34AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:12:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 49.
11:12:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOW A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING,
PLEASE.
11:12:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

WE CAN REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO REOPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
11:12:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT'S ALREADY BEEN OPENED BY MOTION.
11:13:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:13:08AM >>McLANE EVANS:
McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
AGAIN.
ITEM 49 ON YOUR AGENDA IS THE HEARING TO ADOPT THE ANNUAL
ROLL FOR THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS ASSESSMENT WAS ADOPTED IN 2019 FOR
THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WITHIN
THE CENTRAL AND LOWER BASIN AREA.
IT WAS IMPLEMENTED WITH A SCALED TIER APPROACH UNTIL THE
FULL RATE OF $89.55 PER ESU WAS REACHED IN 2021.
IT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME.
THE RATE FOR THIS YEAR IS STILL $89.55 PER ESU.
NO WRITTEN OBJECTIONS OR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT WERE
RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM.
AGAIN, PLEASE REMEMBER TO VOTE WHILE THE HEARING IS STILL
OPEN.
STAFF AND I ARE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:13:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS?
11:13:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SHE STATED IT TWICE.
11:13:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO ITEM 49?
STATE YOUR NAME.
11:14:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
IT'S FUNNY THAT MR. MICHELINI AND I RARELY AGREE BUT IN THIS
PARTICULAR SITUATION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT
THAT WE COULD FIX THE WINDOW THAT DOESN'T ROLL UP AND DOWN.
WE CAN FIX THE BELT SQUEAKING ON OUR CAR.
WE CAN FIX THE LITTLE BUMP IN THE BUMPER FOR A REASONABLE
PRICE.
BUT THAT SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT, THAT'S US GOING OUT
AND BUYING A NEW MERCEDES WITHOUT REALLY THINKING ABOUT IT
FIRST.
IF YOU ACTUALLY CLEAN OUT THE DITCHES, MAKE SURE THE PUMPING
STATIONS WORK THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO, MAYBE BUILD A
NEW PUMPING STATION OR TWO, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY TRUE
EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
MR. BHIDE WAS NOT A STORMWATER EXPERT.
WE HAVE SOME STORMWATER EXPERTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM
TESTIFY THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
IF IT WAS REALLY AND TRULY THE BEST PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA, YOU KNOW I WOULD BE DOWN FOR IT.

BUT IT STINKS.
IT STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN.
WHO WANTS IT?
WHY DO THEY WANT IT?
WHOSE POCKETBOOKS IS GETTING FILLED UP?
WHOSE ISN'T?
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT TO FIX THE WINDOW ON THE CAR, INSTEAD OF GOING AND
BUYING A MERCEDES, WE NEED TO FIX IT FOR EVERYBODY.
AND THE PROBLEM IS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE DON'T WANT A
NEW CAR.
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE DON'T WANT THE NEW CAR.
NOW, YOU HAVE SOME WHO DID.
SOME WHO DIDN'T BUY FLOOD INSURANCE EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE ON
A PENINSULA IN A STORM PRONE AREA.
I LIVE ON A PENINSULA IN A STORM PRONE AREA AND I HAVE FLOOD
INSURANCE SINCE THE DAY I BOUGHT MY HOUSE.
I WOULD NEVER LIVE HERE WITHOUT FLOOD INSURANCE.
BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.
WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON ONE PROJECT THAT
NOBODY CAN DEFINITIVELY SHOW IS A PERFECT PROJECT THAT WOULD
FIX ANYTHING.
LET'S SPREAD THE LOVE AND SPREAD THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
MONEY AND FIX THE SMALL POCKETS WHERE IT COULD BE FIXED.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOMEBODY CAME IN HERE AND NAMED THREE

STREETS IN MY COMMUNITY A MONTH OR SO AGO.
I SAW ON NEXT DOOR THIS MORNING THAT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS
HAS PUT IN FOR THOSE STORMWATER DRAINS DOWN THERE TO BE
CLEANED THREE DIFFERENT TIMES AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DONE
YET.
SO LET'S LOOK AT THE PRACTICALITY OF LET'S SPEND ALL OUR
MONEY, PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET OR SPREAD IT OUT AND
HELP EVERYBODY, NOT JUST ONE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:16:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
11:16:44AM >> THANK YOU.
11:16:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME.
11:16:46AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
AGAIN, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS NEED TO BE DIVIDED UP INTO
ACHIEVABLE POCKETS.
A MASSIVE PROJECT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
ALL IT DOES IS TRANSFER IT TO A BIGGER PROJECT THAT PROBABLY
WILL NOT SOLVE ANY OF THE PROBLEMS.
YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE STORMWATER FLOODING.
I AGREE WITH STEPHANIE POYNOR.
THE ISSUE IS FIX THE AREAS THAT FLOOD AND DESIGN PROJECTS
THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THOSE AREAS.
YOU DON'T NEED A MASSIVE PROJECT, AS SHE POINTED OUT, THAT'S
NOT JUST THE HOMEOWNERS, IT'S ALL OF THE BUSINESSES AND ALL
OF THE ASSOCIATED INDUSTRIES THAT CANNOT SUSTAIN A MASSIVE
PROJECT.

THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE.
SO IF IT MEANS PUTTING IN SMALLER PROJECTS WITH THE PUMPS
AND REDUNDANT BACKUP SYSTEMS, THEN HAVE IT.
BUT, AGAIN, AS I SAID, THE RESEARCH HAS ALREADY SHOWN THEY
HAVE PUMPS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN INSPECTED OR MAINTAINED FOR 14
YEARS, I HAVE SUMP PUMPS IN MY YARD.
I'M NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, BUT I HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEM EVERY
SIX MONTHS.
I HAVE TO CALL FOR MAINTENANCE.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT, WELL, THEN, GET PEOPLE
UNDER CONTRACT.
I KNOW COUNCIL HAS BEEN SENSITIVE TO THAT, BUT GET A
PERMANENT CONTRACT.
YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM STORMWATER THAT THEY ARE GOING TO
ENGAGE IN A SERVICE THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE BACKUP
GENERATORS, THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERED WHEN
THERE IS A STORM.
WELL, I HOPE THAT IS AN IRONCLAD CONTRACT AND WE'RE NOT
COMPETING WITH OTHER AREAS THAT ALSO NEED GENERATORS OR
PUMPS.
THE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
AGAIN, MAINTENANCE FIRST, CONSTRUCTION SECOND.
THANK YOU.
11:18:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 49?

MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
11:18:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE I MOVE IT, I WANT TO PUT ON
RECORD THAT I HAVE NEVER AGREED MORE WITH STEPHANIE POYNOR
THAN AT 11:16 A.M., AUGUST 7.
11:18:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU NEED JESUS.
11:18:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO SHOW.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:19:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO, A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:19:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE AS WELL.
WE NEED TO STOP THAT BOONDOGGLE PROJECT.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION PUSHED OUT BY THE
ADMINISTRATION JUSTIFYING THE STUPID PROJECT.
IT IS A WASTE OF MONEY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
IT'S GOING TO DISRUPT NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES.
AND THE NASTINESS AND DIRTY POLITICS THAT'S BEEN PUSHED BY
THE ADMINISTRATION AND A FEW OF THE HOMEOWNERS IS JUST
DISGUSTING.
PROPER MAINTENANCE WOULD HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM IN THOSE
NEIGHBORHOODS, AND PROPER MAINTENANCE GOING FORWARD WILL
SOLVE IT.
WE STILL NEED TO GET IN THERE AND FIX THOSE DRAINS AND OTHER
PROBLEMS.
I WENT TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THE DAY AFTER THE HURRICANES

WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
WHEN THE MAYOR'S PEOPLE WENT IN, SUDDENLY THEY HAD ALL KINDS
OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND OTHER PROBLEMS.
WE NEED TO FIX THE REAL PROBLEMS GOING ON AND STOP PEOPLE'S
HOUSES FROM FLOODING, NOT WASTE MONEY ON A STUPID PROJECT.
11:19:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:19:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M HERE NOT TO DEFEND MYSELF BUT TO SAY
THIS ADMINISTRATION OR NO OTHER ADMINISTRATION THAT I'VE
EVER WORKED WITH HAS EVER TOLD ME WHAT THE HELL TO DO WITH
MY VOTE.
BECAUSE IF THEY DID, I WOULD TELL THEM TO GO TO HELL,
PERIOD.
LET ME CLEAR THAT UP FOR ME.
I TAKE NONE AND I GIVE LESS.
I'M VOTING FOR IT BECAUSE THE PROJECT AS I SAW IT DESIGNED,
ALLEVIATES THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN MOST OF THIS AREA.
IS IT GOING TO BE ALL OF IT?
THERE IS NEVER GOING TO BE A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR ALL OF ANYTHING REGARDING STORMWATER.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE THE BAY THAT WE HAVE NEXT TO US, AND THE SEA LEVEL
THAT WE'RE AT, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, THE AMOUNT OF HEAT TAKEN THIS YEAR, ABOUT 3%
HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR, THE BAY, THE WATER IS.

WHAT AM I TO EXPECT? A COUPLE OF DROPS?
OR FULL-BLOWN HURRICANE?
WE'RE LUCKY THAT THAT HURRICANE, BOTH THAT HIT LAST TIME,
DID NOT HIT US DIRECT BECAUSE THE WATER WENT OUT INSTEAD OF
COMING IN.
IF IT WAS TO COME IN, YOU AND I WOULDN'T BE SPEAKING HERE
TODAY.
WE WOULD ALL BE FLOODED.
THE LIFE IS WHAT IT IS.
WHERE I LIVE IS WHAT IT IS.
I'M TRYING TO FIX IT AS BEST I CAN.
SOMETIMES NOTHING IS HUNDRED PERCENT PROOF.
11:21:20AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO SAY, I'M VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE
IT IS FOR RENEWAL OF THE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN.
THIS MONEY, WE'RE NOT VOTING FOR THAT PROJECT OR AGAINST IT.
WHEN THAT COMES UP, I'LL VOTE AGAINST IT.
TODAY WE ARE JUST VOTING FOR THE MONEY SO THEY CAN FIND
SOLUTIONS.
11:21:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
11:21:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:21:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:21:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

11:21:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:21:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:21:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:21:46AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:21:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MR. MICHELINI.
11:22:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. MICHELINI.
11:22:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
AT 1:30 --
11:22:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAVE A 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE
AGENDA STATES WILL NOT BE HEARD.
IT IS A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW.
IS THAT YOUR REQUEST?
11:22:19AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
YES, IT IS.
11:22:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30.
WE CAN REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL.
11:22:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL
FROM STEVE MICHELINI FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:22:35AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE.
11:22:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 20 IS THE FIRST STAFF REPORT THAT WE
ARE GOING TO HEAR TODAY.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD THIS OFF?
11:22:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
THANK YOU.
ITEM 20, ON MONDAY, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT TAMPA FIRE
RESCUE'S FLEET AND SUPPLY, THE LAND WE WANT TO BUY ON
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
I ASKED AT THAT TIME WHAT ELSE DID YOU WANT TO PUT ON THE
PROPERTY, AND THEY WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS
AVAILABLE OVER THE WEEKEND AND WE DIDN'T GET THEM UNTIL
MONDAY, I HADN'T READ IT YET.
BUT I FOUND IT.
MS. SCHARF, IF YOU COULD PUT THAT ON.
THE OTHER THING, IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, THEY WANT TO FIND IS
THE LOWRY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT STAFFING VEHICLES
AND TRAILERS AND THE LOWRY PARK FUELING ASSETS.
A PART OF THE SITE ANALYSIS IS SPACIAL REQUIREMENTS.
WE FOUND WHAT IT IS THEY ALSO WANT TO PUT THERE.
PROBLEM IS, WE HAVE HEARD THAT CHIEF TRIPP ASKED FOR TEN
ACRES.

THIS NEW PLOT IS ONLY 6.4 ACRES.
IF IT DOES FIT -- THIS CONTRACT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE
APPROVING, ITEM NUMBER 20, IS SIMPLY APPROVING $140,000, I
BELIEVE, CONTRACT TO JUST -- $141,825 CONTRACT TO SEE IF
THIS IS PLAUSIBLE.
BUT WHAT THEY DID, THE RFQ ONLY TALKED ABOUT FIRE RESCUE.
ONLY TALKED ABOUT FLEET AND SUPPLY.
THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO OnBase THIS WEEK
INCLUDES THIS.
LOWRY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT STAFFING VEHICLES AND
TRAILERS.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THIS IS.
THIS IS THE EXTRA PIECE OF LAND EAST OF NORTH BOULEVARD
WHERE CURRENTLY WE HAVE THESE VEHICLES, AND IT IS SLATED FOR
WHERE -- ZOO TAMPA WANTS TO EXPAND.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH LOOKING FOR LAND TO MOVE THESE
VEHICLES, BUT I DO NOT WANT US AS COUNCIL TO BE STUCK IN
ANOTHER HANNA AVENUE, ANOTHER HOWARD AVENUE, ONE OF THE
PROBLEMS OF, OH, WELL, MAYBE THIS ONE ISN'T GOING TO BE
RIGHT FOR FIRE RESCUE, BUT THIS WILL BE PERFECT FOR THIS.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM BUYING THE LAND EITHER WAY.
WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS SAYING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT THIS
FOR LOWRY PARK FUELING AND STAFFING VEHICLES AND TRAILERS.
I BELIEVE WE SHOULD TAKE THIS LINE OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WORK.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OUR LAWYER THAT THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD WORK BEHIND THE
SCENES AND GET THIS REMOVED FROM THIS.
I AM NOT AT ALL SAYING -- LET ME FINISH -- I AM NOT AT ALL
SAYING THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US MOVING THIS.
IN FACT, WHEN I TALKED TO CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT IT, I GAVE
HIM A LOCATION THAT HE COULD LOOK FOR TO PUT THESE TRAILERS
AND VEHICLES ON.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
I THINK WE SHOULD GET THIS STUFF OFF OF SOMETHING THAT LEADS
INTO THE RIVER.
IT'S CRITICAL.
BUT IT IS NOT WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
IT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS MORNING, WE GOT AN E-MAIL FROM THE
PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS UNION THAT CLEARLY
STATES, THIS WAS SENT AT 9:16 THIS MORNING.
THIS LAND NEEDS TO REMAIN 100% FOR FIRE AND FIRE ONLY.
I URGE YOU TO PROTECT THIS INTENT AND REJECT ANY EFFORT TO
DILUTE ITS PURPOSE.
WE OWE IT TO TAMPA FIRE TO FOCUS ONLY ON THIS.
AGAIN, THIS IS A SIX-MONTH STUDY.
MS. FEELEY CAME UP TO US AND SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE
ON THIS PROPERTY IN A MONTH.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM BUYING THE PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE FOCUSED ON
FIRE RIGHT NOW.

AND IF WE AGREE TO THIS, MY FEAR IS THAT WE WILL THEN MOVE
AND HAVE THIS PROPERTY ONLY POSSIBLY FOR THE LOWRY PARK AND
WE WILL BE STUCK AT GROUND ZERO AND HAVE TO START ALL OVER
AGAIN FOR LAND FOR FLEET AND SUPPLY.
THIS IS MY CONCERN.
THIS ADMINISTRATION TALKS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
WHEN I ASKED ON MONDAY WHAT ELSE COULD BE PUT ON IT, WE WERE
NOT TOLD THIS.
I HAD TO FIND IT AND READ IT IN DOCUMENTATION.
THAT TO ME IS NOT TRANSPARENCY, AND THAT IS NOT THIS
COUNCIL'S STATED GOAL OF FOCUSING ON FIRE AND FINDING A
PLACE FOR FLEET AND SUPPLY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LOWRY PARK NEEDS LAND.
I GET IT.
AGAIN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
WE CAN KEEP LOOKING.
WE CAN BUY ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS PIECE OF LAND.
I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO THE FIRE, FIRE ADMINISTRATION,
FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE COUNTING ON US TO FIND THEM A PLACE FOR
FLEET AND SUPPLIES SO WE CAN FIX THEIR STATIONS.
11:27:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOME OF THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO ME.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING
ON FOR OVER TWO YEARS.
I WANT TO RESTATE WHAT THIS LANGUAGE SAYS.

IT SAYS THAT THE SITE ANALYSIS AND SPATIAL REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S NOT SAYING -- MAYBE CHIEF BENNETT WOULD BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE MORE CLARIFICATION -- IT'S JUST AN ANALYSIS AND
SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND EVALUATING THIS.
THEY ARE NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
WITHOUT SOME OF THAT IN THERE, IT WON'T HAPPEN.
MAYBE CHIEF BENNETT CAN PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE
GO ON.
11:28:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE TO LEAVE IN TWO MINUTES.
I DID WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS TO SUPPORT IT.
JUST WHENEVER CHIEF, IF I MAY.
11:28:26AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT TO 15 SECONDS.
THIS IS 100% ON ME.
WHEN THAT PROPERTY CAME AVAILABLE FOR EVALUATION FOR FIRE
FLEET AND WAREHOUSING, I ASKED THE TEAM THROUGH CAD, I SAID
JUST LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY AS YOU GO THROUGH TO SEE IF WE
COULD GET OFF THAT PROPERTY.
THEN I WENT BACK INTO A SECONDARY MEETING AND I MADE SURE
THAT EVERYBODY WORKING ON THIS PROJECT KNEW THAT, NUMBER ONE
WAS FIRE FLEET AND THE WAREHOUSE.
AND ONLY IF, WITH A TEAR LINE, IF LOWRY PARK CAN'T GO THERE,
WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT.
NO IDEA HOW MANY ACRES IT WAS.
IT WAS A VERY SIMPLE FEASIBILITY REQUEST THAT WORKED ITS WAY

INTO THE SCOPE.
BUT 1,000% -- I SAY THIS IN FRONT OF THE FIRE CHIEF, IN
FRONT OF CAD, IN FRONT OF LAM -- THAT IS ONLY FOR FIRE FLEET
AND FIRE WAREHOUSING AS A PRIMARY FOCUS.
FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE ROOM, INCLUDING SOME OTHER THINGS
THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS TO THIS, LET US
KNOW.
AND THAT'S AS FAR AS IT WENT.
HOW IT GOT FORMALIZED FROM THERE IS THE PROJECT SIDE OF THE
EQUATION.
I AGREE, I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE COMMON THEME OF THE HIGHEST
BEST USE OF PROPERTY FOR LOWRY.
AND WE CAN LOOK FOR OTHER THINGS IF IT DOESN'T FIT.
BUT IT WAS A GENUINE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE WITH LESS.
THAT'S ALL.
11:29:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE
SCOPE OF WORK?
11:29:51AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
ONLY IF IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, OF COURSE, I
WOULD.
BECAUSE THE PRIORITY IS FIRE AND FIRE WAREHOUSING.
BUT IF FOR SOME REASON THROUGH VALUE ENGINEERING -- I MEAN,
I LOOK AT THE CITY AS A TEAM SPORT TRYING TO MAKE SURE LAND
USE IS AVAILABLE FOR ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE, BUT I'M NOT
THE END STATE.
I'M NOT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

ALL I ASKED FOR IS FEASIBILITY.
IF I TAKE IT OUT OR WE ASK TO TAKE IT OUT, IT WILL
AUTOMATICALLY GET TAKEN OUT IF IT DOESN'T WORK.
IT WAS REALLY, BEFORE THEY HAD A PROJECT MANAGER, IT WAS CAD
THAT I ASKED TO SEE THE FEASIBILITY.
IF THEY CAME BACK AND SAID NO, EVEN IN THE PRELIMINARY, IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER.
ALWAYS WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS SEE IF THERE WAS ENOUGH ROOM
TO FREE UP THAT PROPERTY.
IF NOT, THEN WE WILL LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
WE KNEW LOWRY PARK FOR HISTORY WAS NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST
USE OF THE LAND FOR WHATEVER WE END UP DOING WITH IT.
11:30:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND I DON'T DISAGREE.
THE POINT IS, I ASKED ABOUT THIS MONDAY AND NO ONE WOULD
GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
11:30:50AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO HIDDEN AGENDA HERE.
IT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION FROM DAY ONE INTERNALLY.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE RIGHT NOW TELLING YOU, THIS WAS ON ME.
I ASKED FOR IT FROM DAY ONE TO BE STUDIED AS A FEASIBILITY
ONLY.
BUT THE PRIORITY WAS, HOPEFULLY THE CHIEF WOULD COME UP
BECAUSE I WAS TALKING TO HER FACE TO FACE ABOUT NUMBER ONE
FIRE FLEET.

NUMBER TWO, WAREHOUSING.
ONLY IF THERE IS ROOM WE'LL CONSIDER MOVING THE FUNCTIONS.
STAFF HAS BEEN LOOKING AT -- BUT ALSO A GOOD EXERCISE, EVEN
WITHOUT THIS PROPERTY, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND
SEE IF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, TO YOUR POINT OF THERE OR
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WE'RE ALL ABOUT IT, BUT THE FOCUS AND THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE
THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE LOWRY PROPERTY PARK.
11:31:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I APOLOGIZE.
I GOT TO GO TO TURKEY CREEK MIDDLE SCHOOL I THINK IT IN
PLANT CITY FOR SPECIAL NEEDS THING.
REALLY FAST, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO
SUPPORT YOU ON THIS.
A COUPLE OF THINGS REALLY FAST WITH REGARDS TO THE HISTORY
OF THIS, THIS CAME ABOUT AFTER 2023.
SOME OF THESE ISSUES WERE IN THE BUDGET.
COULDN'T GET THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR IT.
THEN WE MOVED TO BOND FOR IT.
IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BONDING FOR
LOWRY PARK -- AGAIN, NOTHING AGAINST LOWRY PARK, THEY ARE
WONDERFUL.
I GREW UP GOING THERE, TOOK MY SON THERE.
SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART.
BUT SHOULDN'T BE BONDING FOR THAT AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD
STUFF.

AND THEN JUST AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO PAY
EXTRA CLOSE ATTENTION TO.
OBVIOUSLY, CHIEF BENNETT AND EVERYBODY IS VERY, VERY HONEST,
BUT HAVING LIVED THROUGH THE APOCALYPSE NOW WITH FIRE
STATIONS, FIRE STATION 24, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE HUNDRED
PERCENT.
THIS PROVIDES THE KEY TO FREEING UP STATION 9.
COUNCIL, I LITERALLY HAVE TO GO.
IF THERE IS A VOTE ON THIS WHERE I'M NEEDED, I CAN BE BACK
AT 1:30 OR WHATEVER.
BUT I HAVE TO GO.
MY APOLOGIES SINCERELY.
11:32:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHIEF BENNETT.
11:32:44AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
TWO COMMITMENTS TO COUNCIL, NUMBER ONE,
THERE WAS NEVER AN INTENTION TO BOND ANYTHING OUT OF THE
SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
NUMBER TWO, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE MINUTE THIS IS NOT
FEASIBLE, IT'S OVER.
IT WAS JUST -- IT WAS REALLY A STRONG CURIOSITY TO SEE IF WE
COULD FIND AN ADD THAT WASN'T TO DISPLACE.
I WENT OUT TO STATION 9.
I WALKED THROUGH THERE.
WALKED THROUGH THE REHAB.
I'M VERY GROUND ZERO KIND OF PERSON.
ALL I DID WHEN THIS STARTED, SEE IF IT WILL WORK.

THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF IT.
IT BECAME A SCOPE.
A PART OF THE PLOT PLAN IF YOU WILL.
NO INTENTION TO BOND, AND IF IT DOESN'T -- IF IT'S NOT ABLE
TO BE HANDLED WITHIN ITS COMPARTMENTALIZED PORTFOLIO, EITHER
FINANCING, SPACE, WHATEVER ELSE, THEN IT COMES OFF.
IT WAS JUST AN IDEA TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE HIGHEST AND
BEST USE OF OUR LAND.
THAT'S IT.
11:33:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED.
THERE IS MISINFORMATION HERE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPENING.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE ZOO.
THIS IS ABOUT THE PUBLIC LAND, THE RECREATION LAND ALONG THE
RIVER THAT IS LOWRY PARK, IN A NEGLECTED NEIGHBORHOOD, AREA
NOT SEEN ANY INVESTMENT, THAT SOME DECISIONS DECADES AND
DECADES AGO DECIDED TO USE IT BASICALLY AS A DUMPING GROUND
IN SOMEBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS WALKED THERE, THERE IS A
BEAUTIFUL, NATURAL SPRING RIGHT THERE BY THIS THING.
IT COULD BE A WONDERFUL CROWN JEWEL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
THIS PARK.
AGAIN, IT'S IN ONE OF THESE NEGLECTED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE
CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT INVESTED IN.
THERE IS COINCIDENTALLY, SOMETHING THE ZOO AS A PROPOSAL

THAT POSSIBLY SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE, NOT MOVING FORWARD AS
FAR AS I KNOW RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT
PROPERTY AS EXPANSION PROPERTY.
BUT JUST TAKING INTO FACT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A DUMP, AND
REALLY HEAVY, HEAVY UTILIZATION IN A SPECTACULAR AREA OF
TOWN ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, REFUELING VEHICLES AROUND
HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY JUST RIDICULOUS.
WHAT THIS PROPOSAL WAS, IS ALL ABOUT FLEET AND FIRE
MAINTENANCE.
WHEN THEY PROCURED THE PROPERTY, ALL THEY HAVE IN THE
LANGUAGE, I WANT TO RIGHT-SET THIS.
THE LANGUAGE IS JUST ABOUT AN ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT COMMITTING TO BUILD ANYTHING.
IT IS JUST LOOKING AT THE SCOPE AND SCALE.
IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IT DOESN'T WORK.
FLEET AND FIRE MAINTENANCE IS NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE, NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER
FIVE.
WHEN THEY DO THE ANALYSIS, IF IT WORKS, IT WORKS, IF IT
DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T.
WE'LL LOOK ELSE WHERE TO TAKE THIS STUFF OFF OF LOWRY PARK.
THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN KEEP YOUR OPTIONS OPEN.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
SHAME ON THE CITY IF WE DIDN'T KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN BECAUSE

THEN WE HAVE BLINDERS ON LOOKING AT SOMETHING.
IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES, YOU HAVE
A SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP THE SCOPE AS
BROAD AS POSSIBLE SO THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY EXPAND IT IF YOU
NEED TO.
IF YOU NARROW IT OUT THE GATE, THERE'S NO GOING BACK.
SO THIS IS JUST KEEPING YOUR OPTION OPEN.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:36:04AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ISSUE IS TRANSPARENCY.
EVEN THOUGH THE MAYOR HAS TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, IT IS A
COVER FOR THE FACT THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS NEVER BEEN
TRANSPARENT.
THAT'S WHY THE PUBLIC DOESN'T TRUST THEM, AND THEY BLAME US
FOR IT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
BUT LOOK AT THIS ITEM, IT SAYS -- I'M LOOKING AT NUMBER 20,
IT'S ABOUT NEW FIRE FLEET MAINTENANCE BUILDING.
IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE ZOO OR MOVING ANYTHING
ELSE AROUND.
SO THE PUBLIC LOOKING AT THIS WOULD HAVE NO IDEA THAT'S WHAT
IT IS.
WE KNOW THAT ALL THE TIME.
THE OTHER DAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET.
I ASKED THE CFO AND OTHER FOLKS BASIC QUESTIONS, LIKE HOW
MUCH IS OUR TOTAL DEBT, AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

I HAVEN'T RESEARCHED THAT, BUT TYPICALLY WHEN THEY SAY WE
DON'T KNOW, WE FIND OUT THEY DID KNOW BUT DIDN'T WANT TO
TELL US OR THEY WERE TOLD NOT TO TELL US.
THIS IS NOT HOW WE BUILD TRUST WITH THE PUBLIC.
WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC.
THERE ARE, I THINK, MAYBE TWO OR THREE SPRING HEADS IN THAT
AREA.
I'VE TAKEN A WALK THROUGH THERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW IS THE RIVER IS HEAVILY POLLUTED.
WE NEED TO FIX THAT.
THE ZOO OR THE CITY, SOMEBODY CAN WORK TO BETTER CLEAR THOSE
SPRING HEADS SO THAT WE CAN ADD MORE FRESHWATER THERE.
BUT THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT WE NEED TO TEACH THE
ADMINISTRATION A LESSON ABOUT HOW THEY NEED TO BE
TRANSPARENT FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR US.
I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE NO.
BY THE WAY, ONLY FIVE OF US HERE.
IF TWO OF US VOTE NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES ANYWAY, SO WE
CAN GO QUICKLY.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, I OBJECT STRONGLY TO THIS
CONCEPT OF HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT SERVES THE PUBLIC, WE'RE NOT A
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE COMPANY.
THIS IS THE EXCUSE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY USES TO
TRY TO GET RID OF THE CRUISE INDUSTRY OR THE PORT INDUSTRY.

IF YOU USE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE THAT THE COMMERCIAL
PROPERTY PEOPLE USE, THEN YOU WOULD CONVERT ALL OUR PARKS TO
CONDOS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FEW PEOPLE WANT TO DO.
THEY WANT INSIDE DEALS SO THEY CAN CONVERT EVERYTHING TO
CONDOS.
OUR ECONOMY IS MULTIFACETED.
IT'S NOT JUST BASED ON CONDOS.
CONDOS ARE IMPORTANT BUT ONE PART.
HOW BEST DOES IT SERVE THE PUBLIC?
SURE, CONDOS WILL GENERATE MORE AD VALOREM TAXES, BUT WOULD
WE RATHER HAVE CURTIS HIXON PARK OR RATHER HAVE CONDOS
THERE?
WE CAN GET MORE MONEY.
HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS PUTTING CONDOS IN CURTIS HIXON PARK.
HOW TO BEST SERVE THE PUBLIC IS KEEP IT AS A PARK.
WE SHOULD NEVER SAY HIGHEST AND BEST USE AGAIN.
THAT IS A TERM TO NOT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY'S INTEREST.
I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE NO AND HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COME
BACK.
THEY NEED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT ON THIS, NOT JUST THIS,
THEY HIDE INFORMATION FROM US ALL THE TIME.
MANY THINGS WE KNOW ABOUT THE HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT, FOR
EXAMPLE, AND OTHER BOONDOGGLE PROJECTS, THE PUBLIC IS DOING
PUBLIC RECORDS AND THEY FIND ALL THE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST,
THE INSIDER DEALING, DIRTY POLITICS, STAFF TEXTING AND

E-MAILING COMMUNITY MEMBERS, RILING THEM UP AGAINST US.
IT IS HORRIBLE THE THINGS GOING ON.
WE NEED TO SAY NO AND WE NEED TO BRING GOOD GOVERNMENT BACK
TO THE CITY FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF.
THANK YOU.
11:38:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:38:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN,
IS CORRECT.
THAT AREA THERE IS BEING USED FOR REFUELING AND DUMPING AND
PICKING UP FROM ONE OR TWO CITY DIVISIONS FOR AT LEAST 60
YEARS.
AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AT THAT
LOCATION.
IT'S GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE CLEANED UP BEFORE
YOU DO ANYTHING.
BUT I'M JUST THERE TO LISTEN.
IF I THOUGHT THAT SOMEBODY IN THIS CITY HAD DONE ALL THE
VIOLATIONS I JUST HEARD, I WOULD ASK FOR COMPLETE
INVESTIGATION BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT, FDLE OR ANY OTHER
OUTSIDE SOURCE BECAUSE IF THAT IS THE CASE, BRING THEM ALL
IN.
LET'S INVESTIGATE EVERYTHING.
BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO BE HEARD, TALKED ABOUT, NOT THAT
IT'S ME, I DON'T LIKE ANY INNUENDOS AGAINST MY GOVERNMENT.
IF ALL THAT IS TRUE, I'M ASKING FOR AN INVESTIGATION.

IF THEY HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY IT, THEY HAVE THE GUTS TO PROVE
IT.
I WANT A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION OF WHAT I JUST HEARD.
11:40:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:40:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
IN SUPPORTING THIS, IT KEEPS OUR OPTIONS OPEN AND DOESN'T
BIND OUR HANDS.
FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
I KNOW THAT PROPERTY VERY WELL ON THE EAST SIDE OF
BOULEVARD.
IT IS A DUMP AND IS GOING TO NEED MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL
REMEDIATION AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT USED TO BE FERRY LAND.
NOW IT'S A PARKING LOT.
LIKE AN EMPLOYEE ENTRANCE FOR THE ZOO.
IT USED TO BE A NICE AREA.
NOW IT IS UNDERUTILIZED.
AND THAT SPECIFIC PARCEL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRE RESCUE
HERE AT THE END OF THE DAY AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND
WHATNOT.
THIS HAS COME UP.
ACCESS TO THE RIVER, ACCESS TO THE PARK, ACCESS TO THE
COMMUNITY.
WE KEEP OUR OPTION OPEN.
IF IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE YOU SAID, WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH

IT.
AT LEAST WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.
11:40:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. COLINA CAME ONLINE -- NO.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:41:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DID GET AN E-MAIL FROM MS. COLINA.
AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 6.4-ACRE SITE.
I BELIEVE, CHIEF BENNETT, YOU TOLD ME 1.5 ACRES IS UNUSABLE
BECAUSE OF STORMWATER?
11:41:17AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A NUMBER.
I KNOW THE PLOT PLAN INVOLVES THE INITIAL FEEDBACK I GOT
FROM CAD WAS THAT BECAUSE OF THE LAY OF THE LAND, THE
PARKING AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD
NOT BE FEASIBLE.
11:41:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
NO, NO, NO.
BUT YOU SAID THERE WAS A PORTION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR
STORMWATER.
11:41:34AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
CORRECT.
11:41:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE TALKING A 6.4-ACRE PIECE OF LAND WHICH
IS SMALLER.
SHE ASKED FOR 10.
THEN THESE ARE THE LOWRY PARK ASSETS.
OFFICE TRAILER, LAWN MOWER CANOPY, DALE SHOP, DALE OPEN
CAGES.
ALL OF THIS STUFF, WE HAVE 12, 15 -- 33, 34, 35, 38, 40, 41,

42, 43 -- 44 VEHICLES.
IN ADDITION.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S EVEN ENOUGH
ROOM TO PUT FIRE.
AND THEN YOU WANT TO SAY, WELL, LET'S LOOK AT IT FOR 44
ADDITIONAL VEHICLES PLUS BUILDINGS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
THIS ISN'T SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT'S THERE
BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE
ENOUGH FOR FIRE, BUT IT MIGHT BE ENOUGH JUST FOR THIS.
THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT.
WE WANT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS ENOUGH FOR FIRE.
WE NEED TO MOVE ON FIRE.
YES, DO WE WANT TO TAKE STUFF OFF THE LOWRY PARK RIVER?
ABSOLUTELY.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE PRIMARY GOAL HERE.
THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO GET FLEET AND SUPPLY MOVED.
SO WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT WE'RE
GOING TO ADD THIS IN AND, OH, WE'RE JUST LOOKING, BUT IF
WE'RE JUST LOOKING, WE'RE GOING TO BE ANOTHER YEAR WITHOUT
HAVING STARTED FLEET AND SUPPLY.
11:43:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. COLINA.
11:43:20AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
IF I COULD, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO TAKE YOU A LITTLE DOWN

MEMORY LANE HOW WE GOT HERE.
IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT
ISSUED AN RFQ.
THE RFQ WAS TITLED, RELATED ASSOCIATED AND SUBSEQUENT WORK
FOR THE NEW FIRE SUPPORT SERVICE --
11:43:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOUR
MICROPHONE, MS. COLINA?
WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU?
11:43:48AM >> I'M SO SORRY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
11:43:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, MUCH BETTER.
11:43:52AM >> SO SORRY.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO START FROM THE --
11:43:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE GOOD.
11:43:58AM >> AND INCLUDING FLEET MAINTENANCE, STORAGE, SUPPLY AND
ASSOCIATED FACILITY ASSESSMENT.
SUBMISSIONS WERE DUE FOR THAT RFQ ON OCTOBER 31 OF '24.
IT WENT THROUGH THE CCNA PROCESS.
THREE FIRMS PRESENTED ON DECEMBER 20 OF '24.
WILDER AND ASSOCIATES WAS SELECTED.
THEY WERE THE ONE SELECTED DURING THAT.
THE AGREEMENT THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS SIMPLY ALLOWING
THEM, THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, TO DO THE PROGRAMMING FOR
BUILDING AND SITE AND SEEING WHAT THE REQUIRED SPACE IS FOR
FLEET THAT SERVICES FIRE AND SUPPLY.

I WILL ALSO SAY AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I'VE HEARD YOU SAY
A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THE FIRE CHIEF ASKED FOR TEN ACRES.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT IS NOT HER AREA OF EXPERTISE.
WILDER AND ASSOCIATES HAS A DEMONSTRATED TRACK RECORD.
THEY DID A SIMILAR FACILITY.
THEY DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED A SIMILAR FACILITY IN
CHARLOTTE COUNTY.
WE ARE NOT THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
SO WE ARE LEANING ON THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO TELL US
WHAT WE TRULY NEED TO SERVICE OUR FLEET BASED ON THE NUMBER
OF THEIR VEHICLES TO PROVIDE AMPLE STORAGE FOR THEM BASED ON
WHAT THEY HAVE.
SO WE ARE LEANING TO THE EXPERTS OR ON THE EXPERTS, RATHER,
TO LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO ON THE SITE.
AS CHIEF BENNETT MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING -- COUNCILMAN
CARLSON HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, MASTER PLAN, DO YOUR
HOMEWORK, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED.
AS I MENTIONED MONDAY, RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, YOU'LL HAVE
TWO DEPARTMENTS ON-SITE.
BECAUSE I WANT EVERYONE TO REMEMBER, THE FLEET MAINTENANCE
TEAM, LOGISTICS AND ASSETS MANAGEMENT.
THAT IS MY DEPARTMENT SERVICE FIRE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE WITH FIRE.
FIRE CURRENTLY SHARES SPACE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR

SUPPLY AND AT THE FLEET SITE, WE SHARE WITH THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT.
THE CITY DOES THAT CITYWIDE.
OLD CITY HALL -- I CAN GO ON AND ON.
BIG BLUE, T & I WAS LOCATED THERE.
WE TRY TO OPTIMIZE SPACE WHERE POSSIBLE.
HONESTLY, THIS IS NOT A DECISION THE ADMINISTRATION IS
MAKING.
WE'LL LEAN TO OUR EXPERTS.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS TAKING THIS RFQ THAT WENT THROUGH THE
CCNA PROCESS, GETTING THE AGREEMENT -- WILDER AND ASSOCIATES
IN LINE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY.
11:46:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. COLINA.
MR. BENNETT, ANYTHING TO ADD?
11:46:32AM >> JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
ADDRESS A FEW THINGS.
ONE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY WHAT HIGHEST AND BEST
USE.
THAT PARK AND LAY DOWN EQUIPMENT, LOGISTICS AND FUEL IS AT
RISK NEAR THE RIVER REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT ENDS UP.
WHEN YOU HAVE 30,000 GALLONS OF FUEL THERE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN
HIT YET.
IF THAT RIVER CRESTS, IT BECOMES A LOGISTICAL PROBLEM.
IT'S NOT JUST WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR, IT IS THE FUNCTIONS

THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE AT RISK.
THAT IS MY VERSION OF HIGHEST BEST USE IS FOR SERVICE.
I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE EXPERT NOR DO I PLAN ON BEING ONE.
THAT'S PART OF IT.
THE SECOND PART OF IT IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDS THE FOCUS IS FIRE FLEET AND WAREHOUSING.
IF 100% OF WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON TODAY GOES TO THAT, I'M
FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT REALLY MATTERED.
THAT'S HOW IT GOT STARTED.
THAT'S HOW THE ASSESSMENT AND -- THIS WAS SIMPLY A
FEASIBILITY QUESTION.
WHEREVER THAT TEAR LINE HAPPENS, WHETHER BEFORE, DURING,
AFTER, WE WILL FIGURE OUT LOWRY PARK.
THAT IS NOT THE FOCUS.
I SAID IT IN THE INTERNAL MEETINGS, I'M SAYING IT TO THE
PUBLIC, IT WAS JUST AN ANCILLARY REQUEST TO SEE, BECAUSE WE
DON'T OFTEN COME ACROSS ACREAGE IN THE CITY.
SO IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE
SURE THAT THESE TWO PRIORITIES HAPPEN.
THAT'S IT.
I'M DONE.
11:47:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:47:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL COUNCILMAN VIERA COMES BACK TO
VOTE ON IT BECAUSE HE ASKED.

SO MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM 20 UNTIL AFTER COUNCILMAN
VIERA RETURNS AFTER LUNCH.
11:48:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 20 UNTIL
AFTER COUNCILMAN VIERA COMES BACK FROM LUNCH.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:48:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU WANT TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AND COME
BACK?
11:48:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SEE TAMPA PD IS HERE.
11:48:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS A PRETTY QUICK ONE OVERALL.
11:48:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU WANT TO SAY IT WHEN WE BRING IT
BACK UP?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:48:37AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WILDER ARCHITECTS IS THE COMPANY.
IT IS A GREAT FIRM.
MS. COLINA WAS TALKING ABOUT THEIR EXPERTISE.
GREAT FIRM.
LARRY WILDER WAS A FANTASTIC PERSON.
NOTHING I QUESTION HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WILDER OR THEIR
REPUTATION.
GREAT FIRM.
11:48:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 52.
11:48:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK WE CAN DO 52.

11:48:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
52.
11:48:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO JUST KICK THIS OFF BY SAYING THAT
WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON MONDAY ABOUT FUNDING FOR THIS.
THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS ASKS FOR.
THIS MOTION IS JUST A PROGRESS REPORT ON WHERE WE ARE, THE
TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN IT.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT FUNDING THIS OR THAT IS NOT THE
INTENT OF THIS STAFF REPORT.
I JUST WANTED TO SET THE TABLE.
11:49:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
11:49:26AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M ASSISTANT CHIEF RUTH KATE WITH THE TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
I HAVE WITH ME TODAY MAJOR PATRICK MESSMER ALSO FROM THE
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LEGAL ADVISOR MICHAEL SCHMIDT,
SHOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY TO UPDATE YOU ON THE
PROJECT.
CURRENT APPROVED CAPITAL BUDGET IS $41,296,000.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW.
WHAT HAVE WE SPENT ON THE PROJECT SO FAR?
$6.2 MILLION.
THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY AT 5005
NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.

THE DESIGN PLANS AND CREATION OF THE PROJECT, PERMITTING,
THE TREE STUDY, THE POND STUDY, ENGINEERING, AND THE PROJECT
MANAGER, WHICH WE ARE ALSO USING WILDER ARCHITECTURE TO HELP
US.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU A DISPLAY OF OUR PARKING SPACES.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ON WHAT WILL THE PARKING SPACES BE AT
THE NEW FACILITY.
I'LL PUT THAT ON THE ELMO FOR YOU.
CURRENTLY, THE PARKING WILL BE FOR 84 VEHICLES, WHICH
INCLUDES EMPLOYEE PARKING, LARGE HIGH VEHICLE STORAGE, AND
CHARGING STATIONS FOR EVs AND BICYCLE SPACES.
THERE WILL BE 30 ADDITIONAL TANDEM SPACES FOR VEHICLE
STORAGE, WHICH I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A COLOR ONE, WHICH MAY
HELP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT THIS IS THE OVERALL PLAN SO FAR.
WHERE WE WILL HELP SAVE SOME MONEY, WHICH IS FOR THE TANDEM
VEHICLES RIGHT THERE, THAT WILL BE GRAVEL.
THAT WILL ACTUALLY NOT BE PAVED.
THE EMPLOYEE PARKING, THE MAIN EMPLOYEE PARKING WILL BE
HERE, AND THERE WILL BE EMPLOYEE PARKING HERE, BUT THESE ARE
OVERFLOW OF VEHICLES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT EMPLOYEES
DON'T NORMALLY DRIVE, LIKE OUR COMMAND POSTS, THE HIGH WATER
VEHICLES, THOSE VEHICLES WILL GO THERE.
WE ALSO HAVE EV CHARGERS AND WE WILL ACCOMMODATE ADA
PARKING.

THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL PARK IN THIS AREA HERE.
THAT WAS FOR THE PARKING.
THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ASSUMPTION FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS
47,594 SQUARE FOOT.
THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
THIS IS THE POND AND ALL OF THE PARKING, AND THIS IS THE
OVERALL BUILDING THERE.
UPDATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THIS IS CURRENTLY A DESIGN-BUILD
BID, WHICH IS UNIQUE.
WE WILL NOT KNOW THE EXACT COSTS UNTIL THE BID IS ACCEPTED.
THE ESTIMATED COSTS STILL REMAIN AROUND THE $40 MILLION IS
WHERE WE ARE AT.
BEFORE I GO FURTHER, I WOULD LIKE MAJOR MESSMER TO TALK
ABOUT A LIST OF POSITIONS THAT WOULD BE MOVING FOR TPD
HEADQUARTERS AND THE TEMPORARY IMPOUND LOT AT CROCKETT'S.
11:52:27AM >> MAJOR PATRICK MESSMER, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I INITIALLY TOOK LEAD ON THIS PROJECT BACK IN 2021 WHEN I
WAS IN A PREVIOUS ASSIGNMENT WHEN I LEARNED THAT WE WERE
BEING MOVED OUT OF OUR EXISTING IMPOUND LOT DUE TO SOLID
WASTE RELOCATION WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT.
THERE WAS A LIST OF POSITIONS REQUESTED OF WHO IS GOING TO
BE MOVING FROM HEADQUARTERS AND THE IMPOUND LOT OVER TO THIS
NEW FACILITY.
THERE WILL BE ABOUT 51 EMPLOYEES.
THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR NATIONAL INTEGRATED BALLISTICS

NETWORK TECHNICIANS FINGERPRINT TECHNICIANS, FORENSIC
PERSONNEL AND ALL OF OUR EVIDENCE AND IMPOUND LOT PERSONNEL.
AND WE HAVE ALWAYS STAFFED TWO FACILITIES FOR EVIDENCE.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A TEMPORARY IMPOUND LOT.
PREVIOUSLY WE STAFFED THE 34th STREET IMPOUND LOT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID BACK IN 2021 WAS CONDUCT A COST
BENEFIT ANALYSIS ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
SO WE STAFF BETWEEN 8 AND 9 POSITIONS AT THE SECONDARY
LOCATION.
BY CENTRALIZING THIS TO ONE LOCATION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO
ELIMINATE THROUGH ATTRITION OR RECLASSIFIED POSITIONS, MOVE
THEM INTO OTHER POSITIONS WHERE WE HAVE VACANCIES, EIGHT
POSITIONS.
SO IF WE ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE A 40-YEAR LIFETIME OF THE
STRUCTURE, WHICH IS NOT UNREASONABLE CONSIDERING THE AGE OF
OUR HEADQUARTERS BUILDING, THE AGE OF THE TRAINING FACILITY
THAT'S UNDERGOING SOME CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE DOWN TO
34th STREET, THAT SAVINGS OVER THAT 40-YEAR PERIOD IS
GOING TO BE ABOUT 42, $43 MILLION WHEN YOU FACTOR IN ABOUT A
4% INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE COSTS AND BENEFITS ANNUALLY IF WE
CAN ELIMINATE THOSE EIGHT POSITIONS.
POTENTIALLY, IT WILL BE A COST NEUTRAL PROJECT AT THE END OF
THE LIFE OF THE STRUCTURE.
11:54:23AM >> ASSISTANT CHIEF RUTH KATE AGAIN.
I HAVE DISCUSSED WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE PERMITTING PROGRESS

WITH ABBYE FEELEY.
AND SHE ASSURES ME, WE REVIEWED ALL THE PERMITS THAT ARE
OUTSTANDING, THAT THE FINAL PERMIT SHOULD BE APPROVED BY THE
END OF AUGUST, AT WHICH TIME WE CAN PUT THE PROJECT OUT TO
BID.
ONCE WE ACCEPT A BID AND WE'RE READY TO BREAK GROUND, IT
WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 16 MONTHS FOR COMPLETION OF THE
PROJECT.
11:54:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:54:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ASSISTANT CHIEF
KATE.
I LIKE SAYING THAT, BECAUSE YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
THIS IS A MAJOR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE IT IS A HISTORIC
PROJECT.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THE INVESTMENT IN WEST TAMPA, WELLS WOOD
BECAUSE IT IS IN AN UNDERUTILIZED AREA.
THAT LITTLE CORRIDOR.
BUT IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
IT'S NEEDED.
I UNDERSTAND, I'VE TOURED WHAT IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET ON
THE 7th FLOOR.
FOR A CITY LIKE TAMPA, IT'S OUTDATED.
MY CONCERN IS HOW WE FUND IT.
AND YOU MENTIONED IT IS AROUND THE 40 MILLION.
YOU MENTIONED AROUND THE $42 MILLION IN SAVINGS.

THE THING IS, WHEN YOU BOND SOMETHING, WHAT YOU PAY IN
INTEREST, IT JUST DEFEATS THAT ENTIRE PURPOSE.
I HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH OUR CFO, MR. ROGERO, TO LOOK
AT HOW CAN WE NOT BOND THIS.
LOOKING AT THE CIT, LOOKING AT WHAT'S COMING IN THE RENEWAL,
JUST TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER FUNDING, BECAUSE I WANT
TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.
I WANT TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE HANNA BUILDING, SOME DEPARTMENTS WERE
MOVING IN AND SAYING WE'RE NOT PAYING RENT IN THESE OTHER
PLACES, BUT THE COST OF THAT FACILITY PLUS WHAT WAS BONDED
AND THE INTEREST IT DEFEATED THAT ARGUMENT.
OH, PAYING A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN RENT, BUT HOW MUCH
PAYING THE BANKS IN THE LIFETIME OF THE FINANCING.
MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, I KNOW THIS IS NOT A VOTE, THIS IS
A STATUS UPDATE, MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE AND THE
SCRUTINY I'LL PUT IS HOW CAN WE SAVE MONEY AND BE
FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE IN GETTING THIS DONE?
I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
I KNOW WITH THE CIT THERE ARE RENEWALS FOR THE POLICE -- THE
NEW POLICE CARS COMING IN.
THE CONCERN WAS, YOU KNOW, IF -- WITH WHAT IS DONE WITH THE
CIT MONEY AND IF WE LOOK AT FUNDING THIS WITH THE REVENUE
THAT WE GET, WILL THAT AFFECT HOW WE REPLACE THE NEW POLICE
CARS?

I KNOW THE VEHICLES THAT THE POLICE HAVE, THEY HAVE A LIFE
SPAN.
THOSE THINGS RUN ALL DAY.
THEY ARE NOT REGULAR CARS.
THEY ARE RACING AND HIGH MILEAGE AND ALL SORTS OF STUFF.
MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT DISCUSSION WHEN THIS DOES COME
FROM A VOTE, WHEN IT DOES COME UP FOR A VOTE, I WANT TO LOOK
AT HOW WE CAN UTILIZE CIT, WHAT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
AT THE LAST RESORT, IF WE HAVE TO BOND, TO BOND THE LEAST --
I WANT TO AVOID BONDING ALTOGETHER.
I ASKED A QUESTION OR MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE GRECO
ADMINISTRATION WITH THE ORIGINAL CIT POST 1996, '97, HOW THE
POLICE SUBSTATIONS LIKE ON TAMPA BAY AND OTHER -- HOW THEY
WERE FUNDED.
I'LL CALL MAYOR GRECO AND ASK HIM.
I THINK THEY WERE PAID WITH CIT MONEY.
CIT IS A BLESSING.
I KNOW IT IS A 15-YEAR RENEWAL.
BUT IF WE CAN DO THE MOST GOOD WITH IT BECAUSE IT IS
DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE AND WE CAN PAY FOR THIS, THE CHIEF
MENTIONED A NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS, $400 MILLION.
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION.
IT'S AN OLD BUILDING BUT I'D RATHER RENOVATE BIG BLUE
BECAUSE IT IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT.
I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY WITH OUR ARTS

COUNCIL, BUT IN MOVING THIS FORWARD, AGAIN, I WANT TO AVOID
BONDING AND TRY TO FUND IT WITH GENERAL REVENUE, WITH CIT,
WITH ANYTHING -- THE LAST RESORT IS GIVING MONEY TO THE
BANKS BECAUSE IT DEFEATS THE $42 MILLION IN SAVINGS WHEN
WE'RE JUST GOING TO PAY IT IN INTEREST.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
11:58:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROVIDING
THIS INFORMATION AND FOR CHATTING WITH ME AHEAD OF TIME.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE
UPDATE, THE INFORMATION, WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT.
11:58:47AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE LAST REMARK.
REMEMBER, WE ARE A GROWING CITY.
AND WE WERE JUST RECENTLY RANKED THE SIXTH SAFEST OF OUR
SIZE ACROSS THE NATION.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS
DO.
WHEN WE THINK OUR EVIDENCE AND PROPERTY ROOM, WE NEED TO
CONSIDER POST CONVICTION RELIEF.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THESE DEFENDANTS HAVE THIS EVIDENCE
AVAILABLE TO THEM UNTIL THE EXPIRATION OF THEIR SENTENCE.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUCH THE VOLUME.

AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY NOT TO
HAVE ONE CASE LOST.
SO VERY IMPORTANT.
ONCE WE MOVE EVIDENCE AND FORENSICS, THAT IS THE BULK OF
WHAT IS AT HEADQUARTERS.
THE REST OF US CAN PROBABLY HOTEL ANYWHERE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DETECTIVES AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF,
THE COST OF BUILDING A POLICE HEADQUARTERS GOES DOWN
TREMENDOUSLY.
AND WE WOULD NOT REBUILD THIS PART.
THIS WOULD BE SEPARATE.
IT HELPS WITH VENTILATION.
WE DON'T HAVE THE OUTSIDE STORAGE LIKE WE USED TO HAVE AT
WHAT WE FORMERLY USED AS THE IMPOUND LOT.
WE ARE GETTING OUT OF THE IMPOUND LOT BUSINESS.
A LOT OF THE STATUTES HAVE CHANGED ON IMPOUNDING OF CARS.
THAT'S WHY THE PARKING LOT IS NOT AS BIG.
WE WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE TREE STUDY AND THE POND
MITIGATION.
WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS IN WELLS WOOD.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM ALSO WHICH WOULD BE OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND HOW IT'S GOING.
12:00:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A CEREMONIAL THING
YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.

I'M SORRY.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:00:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TWO CENTS TO THE CONVERSATION, IT'S NOT
WHAT YOU BUY TODAY AND SPEND TODAY.
IT'S THAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE ANOTHER 20 YEARS FROM NOW, 30
YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO COST.
THAT'S NEVER BEEN SAID.
NO ONE HAS ADDRESSED THAT.
NO ONE SAYS WHAT IF NOTHING HAPPENS, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO
GO?
A LOT OF IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED.
YEAH, BONDING IS WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS
TODAY, 4.5, 4.75, WHATEVER IT IS.
YOU THINK THE INTEREST RATE WILL STAY THAT WAY FOR THE NEXT
20 YEARS?
I DON'T THINK SO.
12:01:03PM >> NO, SIR, COUNCILMAN, I DON'T THINK.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I DON'T WANT 20 YEARS FROM NOW A
GUILTY PERSON TO BE SET FREE BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE WAS NOT
THERE.
12:01:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE.
JUST ONE PERSON.
ONE PERSON.

I SAID THAT BEFORE.
I'M NOT AFRAID TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
I MAY NOT LIKE IT PERSONALLY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT BIG
BUSINESS, GENERAL MOTORS AND EVERYBODY IS BIG BUSINESS, THEY
ALSO HAVE A CREDIT LINE, WHEN THEY CAN MAKE A BARGAIN, THEY
TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES EVEN BIG, BIG
BUSINESS NEEDS IMMEDIATE CASH.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
12:01:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
12:01:46PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
12:01:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU ALL.
ENJOY YOUR AFTERNOON.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:01:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST QUICKLY, ADAM, THIS IS HIS LAST MEETING
BECAUSE HE HAS TO GO BACK TO FSU, AS HIS FUTURE RUNNING MATE
MENTIONED LAST WEEK.
HE CAME THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER AS INTERN.
MY AIDE HAD HEALTH ISSUES.
HE STEPPED RIGHT IN AND BEEN WORKING AS A TEMP FOR A COUPLE
OF MONTHS NOW AND HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.
I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK HIM AND WISH HIM WELL.
STAY IN TOUCH.
HE KNOWS THAT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP HIM IN THE FUTURE,
WE WILL.
12:02:24PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.

12:02:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS?
WHAT ARE YOU STUDYING?
AND WHAT YEAR ARE YOU?
12:02:40PM >> I'M GOING -- ADAM BIRDEN.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, COUNCIL.
I'M GOING TO BE AN ACCOUNTING MAJOR.
I'M GOING INTO MY SOPHOMORE YEAR.
I AM ALSO DOING A MINOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE.
AS I STARTED WORKING HERE OVER THE SUMMER, I'VE GROWN VERY
INVESTED IN POLITICS.
I DO THINK THERE IS A FUTURE FOR ME, NOT NECESSARILY IN CITY
WORK, BUT DEFINITELY GOVERNMENT RELATED.
I AM ALSO VERY FINANCE INTERESTED.
I DO WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH MONEY.
SO THAT COMES INTO THE ACCOUNTING PART.
12:03:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:03:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT'S LIKE THE OLD SAYING IT, GO TO
SCHOOL, MAKE STRAIGHT-As, BECOME LAWYERS, BECOME JUDGES.
THOSE THAT GO TO COLLEGE, MAKE A C IN LAW, THEY BECOME
MILLIONAIRES.
ACCOUNTING SAME WAY IN A WAY WITH NUMBERS.
YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM AHEAD OF YOUR LIFE.
JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO AND ENJOY.
IT WILL BE HARD NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT, ONE PLAYER

PLAY FOR YOU ONE YEAR, THEN HE'S GONE.
IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT, NOT A TEAM ANYMORE.
IT'S WHO YOU CAN BUY TO PLAY FOR YOU ANYMORE.
THAT'S HOW IT IS IN SPORTS.
WHAT AM I GOING TO SAY, DO I LIKE IT?
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
12:04:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES THAT SAYING GO ON TO SAY THOSE WHO
FLUNK GO ON TO BE POLITICIANS?
12:04:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THOSE WHO GET Cs BECOME CITY COUNCIL
--
12:04:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CHARLIE, WHICH WERE YOU?
12:04:20PM >> D STUDENT.
12:04:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WAS GOING TO ASK.
NOW I KNOW.
12:04:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:04:27PM >> BASICALLY I GET As.
12:04:29PM >> HOW OLD ARE YOU?
12:04:31PM >> 20.
12:04:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S GREAT.
I WAS 20 THE OTHER DAY.
I'M 41 NOW.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS YOUR EDUCATION AND TO LEARN
ABOUT MONEY.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF FRIENDS OF MINE FROM WHEN THEY WERE
YOUNG, ONE IS IN FINANCE AND ONE IS NOT IN FINANCE.

BUT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING HOW MONEY WORKS,
SAVING AND INVESTING FOR YOUR FUTURE BECAUSE TIME FLIES,
NUMBER ONE.
YOUR EDUCATION, YOUR FUTURE, RETIREMENT, FINANCES, I WANTED
TO BE AN ATTORNEY AND THE GOAL WAS -- I EVEN APPLIED TO GO
TO LAW SCHOOL -- GOAL TO BE AN ATTORNEY AND RUN FOR PUBLIC
OFFICE.
ALWAYS HAD MY SIGHTS ON CITY LOCAL BECAUSE I WAS INSPIRED BY
MAYOR GRECO, FORMER MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLIE
MIRANDA, BECAUSE THOSE ARE WHO I KNEW GROWING UP.
BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
AGAIN, BUILD THAT FOUNDATION, FOCUS ON YOURSELF BECAUSE IT
WILL BE A BETTER FUTURE FOR YOU.
SO YOU TALKED ABOUT FINANCE, TALKED ABOUT GOVERNMENT.
THERE ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES, AND NEVER BE SCARED.
NEVER BE SCARED.
DON'T HESITATE.
BECAUSE WHAT IS IT, FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD.
EVEN IF YOU MAY FAIL, DON'T BE TOO SCARED THAT YOU DON'T
TAKE THAT FIRST STEP.
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE.
THANK YOU.
12:05:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ADVICE I'LL GIVE, FAILURE IS ONLY FOR
THOSE WHO DO NOT GET UP AND RUN AND TRY AGAIN.

12:05:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ADAM, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE HAVING YOU BACK THERE.
YOU ALWAYS HAVE A SMILE ON YOUR FACE.
ALWAYS SO FRIENDLY.
WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO MISS YOU.
BEEN A LOT OF FUN.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.
12:06:11PM >> HOPEFULLY.
12:06:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAKE CARE.
ENJOY YOUR LUNCH.
12:06:13PM >> THANK YOU SPECIFICALLY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR HAVING
ME.
THIS HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY VALUABLE EXPERIENCE.
I'VE LEARNED SO MANY, SO MANY GREAT THINGS FROM COUNTLESS
E-MAILS AND SCHEDULING, IT'S TRULY BEEN ONE OF THE MOST
VALUABLE EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:06:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST DON'T TAKE ADVICE FROM HIM ABOUT
MOVIES.
12:06:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BY THE WAY, HE DOESN'T TALK ABOUT IT, SO YOU
MIGHT NOT KNOW, HE LIVED IN SINGAPORE FOR FOUR YEARS.
YOU CAN GET A SECOND OPINION.
12:06:44PM >> VERY WILD COINCIDENCE WE BOTH DID.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:06:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE IN RECESS.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

01:34:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE?
01:34:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
01:35:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
01:35:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
01:35:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
01:35:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
01:35:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
01:35:07PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:35:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WILL PAUSE FOR A MINUTE AND MOVE ON
TO 53.
IN-PERSON STAFF REPORT.
OCEA.
IS OCEA ONLINE?
OKAY.
IS STAFF ONLINE FOR 53?
NO COAT THURSDAY.
01:35:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE.
I NEVER NOT WORN A TIE TO CITY COUNCIL.
01:35:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST DROPPED MY COAT IN THE OFFICE
BECAUSE IT WAS HOT OUT HERE.
GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE FOR ANYONE ON ITEM 53.
OKAY, WHO IS AVAILABLE?
01:36:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S DO 54.
01:36:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW ABOUT 54.
GOING ONCE.
GOING TWICE.
54.
WE HAVE A BIDDER.
01:36:17PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MALI LAGASSE, REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE FOR A PRESENTATION OF A HONORING STREET NAMING OF
GEORGE AND LEONARD LEVY.
IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE PRESENTATION.
01:36:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S UP.
01:36:47PM >> I DON'T HAVE IT ON MY SCREEN.
01:36:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHOULD BE A CLICKER THERE SOMEWHERE.
01:36:52PM >> IT IS ALL BLACK.
01:36:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOMEBODY FROM CCTV COME AND PROVIDE SOME
ASSISTANCE?
ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE IT ON THE OVERHEAD ABOVE YOU?
01:37:08PM >> I CAN, BUT I CAN'T ADVANCE ANYTHING.
I THINK IT IS REBOOTING.
THERE WE GO.
ALL RIGHT.
LEONARD LEVY AND GEORGE LEVY WERE TAMPA NATIVES AND TWINS
THAT DEDICATED THEIR LIVES OF BUILDING A STRONGER AND MORE
DYNAMIC TAMPAM AND THEIR BELIEF IN ITS POTENTIAL SHAPED
THE CITY FOR A RECOGNIZED DESTINATION IN THE WORLD OF
SPORTS AND CIVIC PRIDE.
IN THE EARLY 1970s, GEORGE AND LEONARD WERE PART OF A
PIONEERIN GROUP OF LEADERS THAT SAW WHAT TAMPA COULD COME.
THEY WORKED TIRELESSLY TO BRING FOOTBALL TO THE REGION
MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER ROSELL.
AND THE VISION CAME A REALITY IN 1974 WHEN THE TEAM WAS
AWARDED THE FIRST NFL FRANCHISE, THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
TRANSFORMATIVE MOMENT OF TAMPA'S RISE AS PREMIERE SPORTS
CITY.
LEONARD LEVY WAS A GRADUATE OF PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND EARNED
A JOURNALISM DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
HE PROUDLY SERVED AS A CAPTAIN IN THE U.S. MARINES BEFORE
BUILDING A SUCCESSFUL CAREER AT HILLSBOROUGH PRINTING
COMPANY.
HIS TRUE PRESENCE WITH TAMPA WAS ON THE NATIONAL STAGE.
BEYOND HELPING TO SECURE THE NFL FRANCHISE.
AND WAS CO-CHAIR FOR SUPER BOWL 25 IN 1991, AND ULTIMATELY,
HIS INFLUENCE OF TAMPA HOSTING ADDITIONAL SUPER BOWLS IN
2001, 2009 AND 2021.
HIS LEADERSHIP WAS INSTRUMENTAL OF PUTTING TAMPA IN THE
GLOBAL SPOTLIGHT OF A SPORTS ORGANIZATION.
LEONARD SERVED ON SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THE TAMPA
BAY SPORTS FOUNDATION, GREATER TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE,
TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL FOUNDATION, THE OUTBACK BOWL
AND YE MYSTIC KREWE OF GASPARILLA.
AMONG HIS MANY HONORS, LEONARD RECEIVED THE KEY TO THE CITY
OF TAMPA, THE UNIVERSITY OF DISTINGUISHED ALUMNUS AWARD
AND INDUCTED IN THE USF AND TAMPA SPORTS HALL OF FAME.
CITY OF TAMPA PROCLAIMED IN 2021 LEONARD LEVY WAY, THAT
SHAPED THE CITY'S MODERN IDENTITY.
MR. LEVY PASSED AWAY IN 2022 AT THE AGE OF 89.
BROTHER GEORGE LEVY GRADUATED FROM PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND THE
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
AND SERVED IN THE ARMY BEFORE FOUNDING THE GEORGE A. LEVY
AWARDS.
HE SERVED AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AT
HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND WAS APPOINTED TO THE 13th
JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMITTEE.
HE WAS A MEMBER AND PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA SPORTS
CLUB AND SERVED THE TAMPA SPORTS AUTHORITY, HEALTH
BOWL AND THE SUNSHINE STATE GAMES.
HIS EFFORTS EXTENDED BEYOND SPORTS WITH EDUCATION, YOUTH AND
SPECIAL NEEDS CAUSES.
HE WAS A LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF TAMPA
BAY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GOLD SHIELD FOUNDATION, AND
SUPPORTER OF THE JAY CLIFFORD MacDONALD CENTER.
HIS LEGACY INCLUDE FOUNDING THE SWIMMING ASSOCIATION WHERE
HE ALSO COACHED YOUNG ATHLETES.
RECOGNIZED FOR LEADERSHIP IN GENEROSITY, GEORGE WAS NAMED
TAMPA CITIZEN OF THE YEAR, SMALL BUSINESS PERSON OF THE YEAR
AND RECEIVED NUMEROUS HONORS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA,
THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND LOCAL CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS.
MR. LEVY PASSED AWAY IN 2016 AT THE AGE OF 83.
TOGETHER, LEONARD AND GEORGE LEVY EMBODIED SPIRIT AND
COMMUNITY BUILDING.
INFLUENCE BROUGHT NATIONAL SPORTS, MAJOR EVENTS AND BROUGHT
CIVIC INSTITUTIONS TO TAMPA.
HELPED TRANSFORM TAMPA NOT ONLY BETTER PLACE TO LIVE BUT A
CITY WITH GLOBAL REACH AND HOMETOWN PRIDE.
FOR OUR DUE DILIGENCE, THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS
THE INSTALLATION OF A HONORARY STREET NAMING SIGN AT NORTH
HIMES AT WEST OHIO AVENUE.
THIS LOCATION IS ADJACENT TO A HIGH-VOLUME PEDESTRIAN
CROSSWALK THAT LEADS DIRECTLY INTO RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
ENSURES THAT THE SIGN WILL BE SEEN BY COUNTLESS FANS,
VISITORS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS TO
COME.
IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS HONORARY STREET
NAMING, WE ASK A FIRST READING FOR SEPTEMBER 18 OR SOME TIME
THEREAFTER.
AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:41:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:41:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
GREAT PRESENTATION.
LEARNED THINGS ABOUT THE LEVY BROTHERS.
AND NOT ONLY WAS LEONARD LEVY -- I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS --
WHAT THE OCCASION WAS, BUT YOU WOULD HEAR ABOUT HIM GROWING
UP.
HOW INSTRUMENTAL THEY WERE.
YOU SAID IT ALL.
WITH THE BUCS, WITH SPORTS, WITH GIVING BACK TO THE
COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW.
THEIR NAMES ARE WELL RECOGNIZED.
AND I THINK THIS IS VERY FITTING BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY
ARE NO LONGER WITH US, THEIR IMPACT IS STILL FELT.
SO I AM HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO SET THIS FOR SEPTEMBER 18
FOR A FIRST READING.
01:42:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:42:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
I BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE DC GOUTOFAS IS THE ONE
THAT ASKED FOR IT.
CAME TO MY OFFICE THROUGH MARY AND MAYBE IT WAS YOUR -- I
DON'T KNOW.
WE DID IT AND THE BEST WE COULD WITH YOUR HELP AND OTHERS
HELP.
I HAVE KNOWN BOTH OF THE BROTHERS FOR MANY YEARS, THEY WERE
NICE, NICE PEOPLE.
AND THEY WERE QUITE ABLE TO GET UNDER YOUR SKIN.
THEY HAD DO.
WHAT YOU DID WAS 100% CORRECT.
THEY WERE VERY NICE AND VERY CLOSE FRIENDS WITH MAYOR GRECO
ALSO.
01:43:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT WAS D.C. GOUTOUFAS THAT SPOKE THIS
MORNING.
REACHED OUT TO ME AND OTHER MEMBERS.
BUT HE HAS BEEN A DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THIS.
01:43:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON?
01:43:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO ADD REAL FAST.
I KNEW BOTH OF THEM.
I KNEW SOME OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS.
I DIDN'T KNOW THEM AS WELL AS PROBABLY COUNCIL MEMBER
MIRANDA DID.
BUT IN THE '90s AND 2000s, THEY WERE HUGE LEADERS.
AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT THEM IS THAT, AS FAR AS I COULD
TELL, THEY DIDN'T SEEK PUBLICITY.
THEY DIDN'T SEEK RECOGNITION.
BUT THEY MOVES MOUNTAINS OF MAKING POSITIVE THINGS HAPPEN
IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK IT IS GREAT TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T
REALLY ASK FOR RECOGNITION DURING THEIR HEYDAY.
01:44:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:44:16PM >> JUST FOR THE LISTENING PUBLIC, WE WILL POST THIS ONLINE
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT STARTING TOMORROW, WHICH IS AUGUST 8
THROUGH MONDAYM AUGUST 25.
01:44:25PM >> COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:44:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WORKED ON THIS THROUGH LUNCH WITH CHIEF BENNETT, AND WE
THINK WE HAVE COME TO A RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 20.
IF YOU WERE READY, WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
01:44:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WILL BRING ITEM 20 BACK TO THE TABLE.
CHIEF BENNETT.
01:44:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO LET ME SORT OF SET THE STAGE.
WHAT HAPPENED IS, THE RFQ WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT FIRE
RESCUE AND -- I AM SORRY, ABOUT FIRE FLEET AND SUPPLY.
IT DID NOT MENTION ANY OTHER ENTITY IN THE RFQ.
WHERE LOWRY PARK CAME IN WAS THE SCOPE OF WORK.
AND WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT PORTION OUT OF
THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT IN THE SAME BREATH WHAT I DIDN'T
KNOW, BECAUSE IT HAVEN'T COME TO US YET, IS THAT THEY HAVE
CREATED A SEPARATE SCOPE -- OR A SEPARATE REQUEST -- WORK
ORDER, THANK YOU, FOR THE LOWRY PARK -- FOR WHAT IS AT LOWRY
PARK AND TO LOOK AT A -- WHAT'S THERE AND WHERE IT CAN GO.
SO THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING.
IT HAVEN'T COME TO US YET, BUT IT WILL.
SO I WILL -- WITH THAT SAID, CORRECT ME ANYTHING I DIDN'T
GET RIGHT.
01:45:47PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
AGAIN, JOHN BENNETT, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHIEF
OF STAFF.
WITH ME IS -- WE HAVE DENNIS ROGERO, CFO, RICHER MUTTERBACK
OVER CAD AND THE CC&A PROCESS, AND JUSTIN VASKE FROM LEGAL TO
MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THINGS APPROPRIATELY.
TO GO BACK WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
I WANT TO RESET THE CHRONOLOGY.
WHEN THE RFQ WAS SENT OUT, LOWRY WASN'T A THOUGHT.
THAT KIND OF EMBEDDED LANGUAGE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY
BOILERPLATE BUT WASN'T LOWRY SPECIFICS AT ALL.
LOWRY CAME UP WHEN WE LANDED THE PROPERTY AND THE WORK ORDER
CAME IN TO SEE IF IT WILL FIT OR NOT FIT.
THE SCOPE IS ACCURATE BY ITS VAGUENESS, BUT BECAUSE LOWRY
CAME UP IN THE JOURNEY WHEN THE PROPERTY CAME IN.
THE QUESTION WOULD BE TO DECONFLICT THOSE.
BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE TO THE RFQ PROCESS
AND THE WORK ORDER -- SORRY, THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDES THAT
LANGUAGE WHICH THEN BECAME NOW A WORK ORDER COMPLETELY
SEPARATE AND APART TO SEE IF IT WILL FIT.
WE ALREADY ARE CONFIDENT IT IS NOT JUST FOR THE RECORD.
THAT THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM CHANGING IT.
SO THE LEGAL PROCESS TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
ONE, THAT THE CAD CAN GO BACK AND STRIKE THAT LANGUAGE AND
BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR THE END OF THE DAY, OR TWO, I
AM TOLD THERE IS NO RISK TO BRING THIS BACK ON THE 28th WITH
THE MODIFIED SCOPE.
IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE FROM THERE.
01:47:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:47:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT
BACK BY THE END OF THE DAY, BUT I WANTED BOTH MR. MUTTERBACK
AND -- AND CHIEF TRIPP IS HERE TOO, IF SHE HAS ANYTHING ELSE
SHE WANTS TO SAY.
BUT I -- JUST TO CLARIFY, WE KIND OF ALREADY HAVE SOME
PRELIMINARY UNDERSTANDING THAT FLEET AND SUPPLY WILL FIT,
BUT NOT ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.
01:47:47PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
RIGHT, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SECOND PHASE
OF WHEN -- REMEMBER THE INITIAL RFQ WAS LAND AGNOSTIC.
IT WAS, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS ANALYSIS, ETC., TO DO THIS
OPERATION.
WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS PICKED UP LATER ON, WHEN THE CONCEPT,
HEY, WE CAN FIT THIS AND A WORK ORDER TO SEE IF IT WILL GO
COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON TODAY NEVER INCLUDED LOWRY AS PART OF
THAT AT ALL.
BUT IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO MAKE SURE THERE IS -- NO
PUN INTENDED -- A FIREWALL IN THAT, THAT CAN BE EASILY DONE
WITHOUT SUBSTANTIVELY CHANGING THE RFQ PROCESS.
MODIFY THE SCOPE BY THE END OF THE DAY FOR A FORMAL VOTE AND
DELAY IT TO THE 28th.
THE SAME THING EITHER WAY.
01:48:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO GIVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTED TO
HAVE --
01:48:38PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
THEY MAY WANT TO JUST VALIDATE WHAT I AM
SAYING.
01:48:42PM >> RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
JUST A LITTLE BIT TO ADD ON.
WHEN THE RFQ WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED, PART OF THAT SCOPE -- IT
WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE $200,000 TO $300,000.
PART OF THAT SCOPE WAS ASSISTING WITH SITE INVESTIGATIONS OF
VARIOUS PROPERTIES.
THE SAME WEEK THAT WE SELECTED THIS FIRM TO CARRY OUT THIS
ASSESSMENT IS WHEN THIS PROPERTY CAME ABOUT.
AND THEN IT ALL KIND OF CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
AND THE WORK ORDER THAT BOTH YOU AND JOHN ARE REFERRING TO
IS ALWAYS IN PLACE.
THAT IS WHY THERE IS -- THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN WORK THROUGH
WILDER, THE SAME FIRM WITH THE ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS WHY THE
$200,000 TO $300,000 ESTIMATE IS COMING IN AT $142,000
BECAUSE HE IS ABLE TO -- HE ALREADY HAS BEEN ABLE TO
ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THAT SCOPE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE
ORIGINAL RFQ.
01:49:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYTHING ELSE?
CHIEF TRIPP WOULD YOU LIKE TO --
01:49:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WANT TO COME BACK LATER TODAY.
01:49:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO GIVE MR. ROGERO A CHANCE TO
SPEAK.
01:49:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I ASK A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
FROM WHAT I HEARD OF CHIEF BENNETT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE CAN PASS AND COME TO THE END OF THE DAY.
01:49:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HE IS SAYING AT THE END OF THE DAY HE IS
COMING BACK --
01:50:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T MATTER.
NO REAL RELEVANCE.
01:50:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE IS RELEVANCE.
IT MATTERS.
01:50:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I THINK -- MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY.
WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION RECOGNIZE AS
THAT IT COULD COME OUT.
AND THE TASK THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED IN THE SCOPE IS BEING
HANDLED BY A WORK ORDER.
THEREFORE, IT COULD COME OUT AND SHOULD COME OUT --
01:50:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STOP.
STOP.
LET ME EXPRESS MY OPINION WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
WHAT HE JUST SAID IS THAT THE LANGUAGE IS NOT RELEVANT
TO WHAT IS IN HERE.
WE CAN PASS IT RIGHT NOW AND IT HAS ZERO CONSEQUENCE ON THE
OUTCOME.
01:50:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, SIR, IT DOES NOT.
01:50:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW DOES IT HAVE CONSEQUENCE.
MR. SHELBY, STOP.
MR. BENNETT, WHAT I SAID, IS THAT ACCURATE, IF IT CAME OUT
OR STAYED IN HAVE ANY CONSEQUENCE ON THE OUTCOME.
01:50:54PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
I WILL ASK LEGAL TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE
I DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I WAS
EXPLAINED TO ME LAND AGNOSTIC NOTHING TO DO WITH LOWERY WHEN
IT CAME OUT.
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT COULD BE, BUT WE ARE PARTNERING
THROUGH THIS TO GET TO THE RIGHT OUTCOME.
BECAUSE THERE IS A SEPARATE WORK ORDER THAT WAS PROPERTY
SPECIFIC INSTEAD OF AGNOSTIC, AGAIN, IT IS AN EXERCISE TO
MAKE COUNCIL FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT THE JOURNEY WE ARE ON.
BECAUSE THE PRIORITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN FIRE FLEET AND FIRE
WAREHOUSING.
01:51:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
01:51:27PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
I DEFER TO LEGAL TO MAKE SURE I AM ACCURATE.
01:51:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
01:51:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY.
01:51:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:51:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I THINK WE CAN RESOLVE THIS TODAY.
IF NOT, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDRAW THE CONTRACT
WHILE WE ARE STILL HERE AND IF ANOTHER NOT DONE BY THE TIME
WE FINISH, WE CAN ALWAYS PUT IT FOR NEXT WEEK OR WHATEVER IT
IS NEXT WEEK AND GET DONE.
WE HAVE TWO SHOTS AT THE APPLE.
TODAY OR IN THE FUTURE, THE 20th.
01:51:55PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
TWO SCOPES, ONE IN THE WORK ORDER AND ONE IN THE CONTRACT.
THEY ARE SIMILAR IF NOT IDENTICAL.
CLEANEST ROUTE IS TO CLEAN UP THE AGREEMENT IF WE ARE NOT
GOING TO PERFORM THAT TASK UNDER THAT AGREEMENT.
CLEAN IT UP.
THE QUESTION IS, WHEN DO WE DO IT?
UP TO CITY COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AT THAT POINT.
WE CAN DO THE SCOPE THIS AFTERNOON AND RUN IT BACK HERE OR
DO IT FOR THE 28th AND HAVE IT CLEANED UP THAT WAY.
IT IS YOUR PLEASURE.
01:52:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:52:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
COUPLE OF THINGS.
IT IS ON.
YES.
SO A COUPLE OF THINGS WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE
BEGINNING OF THIS -- OF THIS FACILITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE FOR -- BETWEEN ANOTHER YEAR AND A
HALF OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE AND WE WANT TO MAKE THAT
AGAIN CORRECT.
AS AN ATTORNEY, I HAD A MEDIATION TWO DAYS AGO WHERE WE
SETTLED EIGHT CASES, AND I WAS JOKING WITH ANOTHER LAWYER.
I SAID IF THERE IS A 2% CHANCE OF SOMETHING HAPPENING AND
YOU SPEND 100% OF THE NEXT HOURS, IS IT LIKELY TO HAPPEN?
NO BUT GOOD TO BE SAFE.
WHETHER WE DO IT TODAY OR IN TWO WEEKS, SO LONG AS WE
ADDRESS THAT.
ME -- I THINK IT IS JUST ME.
I THINK IT IS PROBABLY BETTER TO WAIT TO MAKE SURE WE GET
THE LANGUAGE RIGHT.
AND I WOULD OBVIOUSLY DEFER IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WANTS TO
MEET WITH STAFF ON THE LANGUAGE AND EVERYTHING.
BUT I AM FINE WITH WHATEVER DELAY IS NECESSARY FOR IT
REASONABLY.
I KNOW NEXT WEEK WE WON'T HAVE COUNCIL, BUT IN TWO WEEKS.
I THINK IT CAN BE DONE.
3%, 2% THING.
01:53:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:53:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE JUSTIN'S ADVICE AND
JUST EDIT IT AND BRING IT BACK TODAY.
BUT I CAN ASK YOU ONE QUESTION, JUSTIN, OF THE RELEVANCE OF
THIS.
THE MASTER CONTRACT THAT COVERS THIS.
IS THIS ONE OF THOSE OPEN-ENDED CONTRACTS THAT COUNCIL
APPROVED AND DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE TO GET OUR
PERMISSION ON THE APPROVALS BUT BECAUSE OF THE MASTER
CONTRACTS, CAN THEY INSTRUCT THE CONTRACTORS TO DO WHATEVER
THEY WANT.
01:54:09PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
IN TERMS OF THE WORK ORDER, THAT IS ONE
UNDER $200,000 THAT YOU APPROVED IN BULK ESSENTIALLY.
SO THAT SCOPE WILL BE APPROVED BY THE ADMINISTRATION SO --
AND THEN THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU ARE APPROVING TODAY,
ALTHOUGH IT IS UNDER $200,000, THAT IS AN ACTUAL AGREEMENT.
NOT A WORK ORDER AGREEMENT.
01:54:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY.
YEAH, YOU KNOW THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES I VOTED AGAINST
THOSE UMBRELLA AGREEMENTS BECAUSE I THINK THERE SHOULD BE
MORE REVIEW BY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WITH THE
INTERPRETATION.
I WILL GO WITH HAVING IT EDITED TODAY AND APPROVED TODAY.
01:54:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CONCUR WITH THAT.
MY BIGGEST FEAR IS I DON'T WANT TO DERAIL THIS PROJECT.
I DON'T WANT TO DERAIL THE ACQUISITION.
I THOUGHT THIS DIMINIMUS LANGUAGE IN THIS THING, THE RISK OF
IT DERAILING THE PROJECT WAS RIDICULOUS.
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:55:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE WORKED THROUGH LUNCH
TO MAKE SURE -- THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WAS MOVING THIS
FORWARD.
MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN GET STARTED FOR FLEET AND SUPPLY,
BUT BEFORE WE VOTE, I DID ASK IF CHIEF TRIPP WANTED TO SAY
ANYTHING.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
01:55:25PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF.
FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
I NOTICED THIS MORNING IN THE MEETING, A LOT OF CONVERSATION
WAS GOING ON AS FAR AS WHAT THIS PROPERTY IS FOR, WHAT IT IS
GOING TO BE USED FOR.
BUT TO CORRESPOND OFF OF CHIEF BENNETT, WHEN WE HAVE -- WHEN
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, THE PRIMARY FOCUS FOR THE FIRE
FLEET AND SUPPLY BECAUSE OF THE INSUFFICIENCY OF HOW THAT IS
OPERATING NOW.
ADDITION CAME ON LATER.
OF COURSE, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT.
WHEN SOMEONE SAID I AM NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.
THAT'S CORRECT.
I AM NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET BUT
I AM WITH THAT DEPARTMENT AND WHAT IT NEEDS AND WHAT IS
GOING ON.
CURRENTLY, YES, I ASKED FOR LAMBORGHINI, AND I AM OKAY WITH A
FORD.
THE REASON I SAY THAT, BECAUSE OF HOW THE CITY SUSPENDING --
WE ARE ALL HAZARD AGENCY AND WE PROVIDE SERVICES THROUGHOUT
THE STATE.
I HAVE EQUIPMENT IN OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN STORED.
I NEED TO HAVE, LIKE, ONE CENTRAL LOCATION.
BY ASKING FOR TEN ACRES, YES, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE PROPERTY
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS -- IS AND GONE.
SO IF THERE IS AREAS WHERE WE CAN PUT ADDITIONAL FACILITIES
IN THERE AS WELL.
BUT I WANTING TO GO WITH FIVE, FIVE OR SIX TO MAXIMIZE WHAT
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING OFF OF NOW.
AS YOU KNOW, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAVE THEIR BIG FLEET
FACILITY.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE ON FIVE OR SIX ACRES AND THEY HAVE
OUTGROWN THAT.
BEFORE I EVEN CAME TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL ACREAGE, I DID
RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, TO SEE, OKAY, HOW MANY VEHICLES WE HAVE.
WHERE ARE OUR RESOURCES WHERE WE ARE GOING TO STORE THEM?
AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF GET ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR THAT.
01:57:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION ON THE FLOOR -- MR. ROGERO.
01:57:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL I APOLOGIZE IF THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT
ITEM.
MISSTATEMENTS WERE MADE OF ME AND OF MY OFFICE BY COUNCIL
MEMBER CARLSON THAT I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.
01:57:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL DENY THAT OPPORTUNITY NOW AND DO
THAT IN THE NEXT ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE
ON WITH THE AGENDA TODAY.
01:57:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:57:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION AND A SECOND TO COME BACK AT THE
CLOSE OF BUSINESS AND YOU NEED TO GO FAST.
BECAUSE WE WILL MOVE PART.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:58:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, I -- ONE OTHER THING.
HE ALREADY LEFT.
I WANTED TO ASK MR. MUTTERBACK -- IF YOU COULD GRAB HIM.
BECAUSE -- AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK AND
POSSIBLY CHIEF TRIPP, MAYBE CHIEF BENNETT CAN HELP ME WITH
THIS.
I JUST -- I ALSO WANTED TO TELL THE PUBLIC OR TALK -- TALK
ABOUT THE IDEA TODAY THAT ONCE WE GET THIS SIX-MONTH
PREPARATION DONE, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO MULTIPLE THINGS
AT ONCE.
MR. MUTTERBACK.
I WAS SAYING -- ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO VERY
BRIEFLY HIT ON TODAY IS ONCE WE GET THIS SIX-MONTH SCOPE,
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT PUZZLE PIECE FITTING THAT WE CAN ALSO
DO SITE PREPARATION, ANY TEST WE GO NEED TO DO PLUS A DESIGN
FOR THE STATION AT THE SAME TIME.
WHAT MIGHT -- SORRY, NOT A STATION, SUPPLY AND FLEET
BUILDING.
01:59:04PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
TIMELINE WISE, YOU WANT THE ASSESSMENT COMPLETE BEFORE YOU
GO INTO DESIGN.
BECAUSE THAT WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DESIGN.
01:59:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING THOUGH.
01:59:17PM >> DURING THE SIX MONTHS THEY WILL BE INTERVIEWING ALL
STAKEHOLDERS, FIRE FLEET.
LOOKING AT THE EXISTING STUFF.
LOOKING AT THAT -- SO WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER WE NEED 35,000
SQUARE FEET, 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN.
01:59:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT I AM ASKING ONCE THAT IS DONE, ONCE WE
ARE DONE WITH THE ASSESSMENT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO MULTIPLE
THINGS AT ONCE.
TESTING THE SOIL WHILE WE ARE DESIGNING.
01:59:40PM >> WE WILL TAKE THAT INFORMATION FROM THE ASSESSMENT AND PUT
OUT A RFQ TO HIRE THE FIRM DOING THE DESIGN AND
CONSTRUCTION IF WE GO DESIGN-BUILD.
01:59:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS AND HOW WE WILL
MOVE ON IT.
01:59:56PM >> NEXT SIX MONTHS AND THE ANOTHER SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS WE
WILL GET INTO DESIGN IN ABOUT A YEAR AND 14 MONTHS.
02:00:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:00:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
MR. BENNETT.
02:00:06PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
I WANT TO MEET COUNCIL'S EXPECTATION OF BRINGING THIS BACK.
THEY ARE GOING TO HUSTLE UP THE AMENDED SCOPE AND GET IT
BACK.
WE WILL BE MONITORING THE TIME SEQUENCE OF COUNCIL.
02:00:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHEN THE DOORS FLY OPEN, I WILL BREAK
BUSINESS.
AND WE WILL TRY TO GET DONE WITH THE OTHER STAFF REPORTS.
WE ARE ON ITEM 53.
02:00:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MISS McKENZIE IS HERE.
02:00:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
02:00:37PM >> NO WORRIES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
BRENDA McKENZIE, DIRECTOR OF WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE
CITY.
AND I AM HAPPY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT THE CONCEPT OF HAVING
AN OFFICE FOR RETURNING CITIZENS.
WE REALLY WORKED HARD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TO MAKE SURE
WE ARE INCLUSIVE OF ALL OF OUR WORKFORCE.
AND RETURNING CITIZENS ARE THOSE THAT ARE JUST AS INVOLVED
IS A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT.
OUR ESTIMATE IS ABOUT -- AROUND 2,000 PEOPLE A YEAR RETURN
TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND BECAUSE WE ARE AT A POINT OF FULL EMPLOYMENT, IT IS
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE ACTIVATING ALL YOU HAVE OUR
WORKFORCE INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS.
WE REALLY APPROACHED THIS FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF ECONOMIC
MOBILITY.
SO WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THEM INTO, NOT
JUST JOBS, BUT CAREERS THAT WILL SERVICE THEM OVER A
LIFETIME.
CONSEQUENTLY, THE PROGRAM YOU APPROVED FOR THE RETURNING
CITIZENS PILOT, THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.
WE WORK WITH A. BROWN MINISTRIES WITH YOUR APPROVAL.
AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TOUCH OVER 1,000 FOLKS SO FAR IN
JUST OVER A YEAR AND A HALF, CONNECTING THEM TO IMPORTANT
COUNSELING RESOURCES, GETTING THEM PLACED INTO JOBS, AND
ALSO DOING THE FOLLOW-UP.
WE ARE HOPING -- HOPEFUL THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT
AND THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THOSE PROGRAMS WILL BE ABLE TO
SERVICE OTHER INDIVIDUALS AND SHARE THAT AS WELL.
WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NEEDS THAT THE
POPULATION HAS, AND THERE ARE SOME STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH
THE POPULATION.
SO THE MAYOR'S WORKFORCE COUNCIL HAS ADVISED PART OF OUR
GOOD JOBS, GREAT CAREERS PLAN THAT WE HAVE A WHOLE SECTION
THAT IS FOCUSED ON RETURNING CITIZENS AND ENGAGING RETURNING
CITIZENS.
WE HAD A TASK FORCE THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT THAT HELPED
TO INFORM US YOU HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD WITH IN ORDER TO REALLY MAKE SURE WE ARE
ACTIVATING THAT POPULATION.
WE ALSO STOOD UP A WEB SITE AS PART OF THE TAMPA WRX WEB SITE.
THERE IS A LANDING PAGE FOR RETURNING CITIZENS.
THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT CAME FROM OUR RESEARCH THAT
INDIVIDUALS IN THIS CATEGORY DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT
ALL OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR THEM.
SO IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY, YOU CAN
COME HERE.
WE CAN LINK YOU TO RESOURCES THERE.
SO WE HAVE STARTED TO OPEN THE DOOR, IF YOU WILL, TO
ADDITIONAL WAYS TO SERVE THE POPULATION SO THEY KNOW WHAT IS
AVAILABLE TO THEM IN THE CITY.
ONE THING WE ARE WORKING ON NOW IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
NOT JUST TOUCHING PEOPLE AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED.
BUT TRYING TO INTERCEPT BEFORE THAT HAPPENS AS WELL.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT JUSTICE INVOLVED OR JUSTICE-IMPACTED
YOUTH.
OPENING THE RECONNECTION CENTER IN HANNA EARLIER THIS YEAR
IN DECEMBER, WE MADE SURE THAT IN OUR GUIDELINES, ALL OF THE
AGENCIES THAT WOULD BE SERVICING THAT -- THAT FACILITY HAVE
INFORMATION AND KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH JUSTICE IMPACTED YOUTH
SO THEY CAN BE ENCOMPASSED AND HAVE ALL THE BENEFITS FROM
THAT AS WELL.
SO IN LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR OFFICIAL OFFICE OF RETURNING
CITIZENS, THERE IS A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT HAVE DONE BEFORE
WHICH GIVES AN EXTRA LAYER OF SERVICE FROM WHAT WE ARE ABLE
TO DO NOW.
D.C. DOES ONE, NEW ORLEANS, PHILLY.
SO IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE.
JUST A MATTER OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
WITH ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OTHER AREAS WE DON'T COVER NOW
THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS.
THERE ARE PARTICULAR LEGAL NEEDS THAT ARE SPECIFICS TO THE
POPULATION THAT ARE SUPER IMPORTANT.
HOUSING IS ANOTHER AREA.
AS WE KNOW, THERE IS CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT MAKE IT MORE
DIFFICULT FOR THIS POPULATION TO -- TO SEEK HOUSING AND
PEER-TO-PEER COUNSEL SOMETHING TYPICALLY A BIG COMPONENT TO
MAKE SURE WE HAVE LONG-TERM SUCCESS.
02:05:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:05:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION.
WE SPOKE YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS.
AND I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING WE CAN START IT HERE WITH THIS
ADMINISTRATION AND THIS COUNCIL AND THEN WHOEVER THE NEXT
MAYOR AND NEXT CITY COUNCIL CAN BUILD ON IT.
YOU MENTIONED SOME CITIES.
MOST A VERY ROBUST ONE AS WELL.
AND THIS IS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
EVERY YEAR 650,000 FOLKS LEAVE OUR PRISON SYSTEM AND BEEN
THREE YEARS, TWO-THIRDS OF THOSE FOLKS WILL REOFFEND.
AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS ISSUE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
I ALWAYS SAID THAT YOU GOT TO BE TOUGH ON VIOLENT CRIME AND
TOUGH ON THE CAUSES OF VIOLENT CRIME.
I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THE TWO GO TOGETHER.
FOR ME AN ISSUE OF FAMILY.
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
EVERY FAMILY IS AFFECTED BY THIS.
EVERY FAMILY IS AFFECTED BE THIS, OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS
AND DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS FAITH AND FORTH.
EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES AND A LOT OF US GET CAUGHT.
I MEAN "US" AS IN "ME."
WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES.
EFFORT OF PREVENTION OF CRIME.
YOU TAKE SOMEBODY AND THEY MAKE A BIG MISTAKE AND GO BACK
OUT THERE.
IF THEY WANT TO USE THEIR GOD-GIVEN POTENTIAL TO PUT FOOD
ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR FAMILY.
WE SHOULDN'T SHAME PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM NEW LEPERS OF OUR
SOCIETY BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT.
IT IS AN ISSUE OF FAITH.
YOU LOOK AT EVERY MAJOR FAITH.
JEWISH, ISLAMIC, CHRISTIAN, CATHOLIC, WHATEVER, HAVE
RETURNING CITIZENS MINISTRIES BECAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT
LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT SOCIETY DOESN'T SEE.
HAPPEN TO BE A CHRISTIAN.
JESUS ALWAYS TAUGHT US TO SEE PEOPLE THAT OTHERS DON'T SEE.
AND THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT OBVIOUSLY.
AND AN ISSUE OF HUMAN DECENCY.
THANK YOU, WES PRUGH, MY FORMER INTERN.
SUCH A COOL YOUNG MAN AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.
BRIAN STEVENSON WITH EQUAL JUSTICE BETTER THAN OUR WORST
MISTAKE THAT WE HAVE DONE.
1% TO 2% SORRY, TOO BAD.
BUT I THINK THAT IS VERY TRUE 100 %.
NO, NOBODY UP HERE.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY TRUE.
I SEE NO CONFLICT ON THIS.
FOR EXAMPLE, I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN SOMEONE WHO IS PRO-LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
NO CONFLICT IN THIS WHATSOEVER.
NOTHING TO DO WITH SUPPORTING -- HAVING GOOD POLICIES ON
CRIME.
SUPPORTS POLICE.
IF ANYTHING THIS SUPPORTS LOWER CRIME AND INTERVENES AND
GIVES PEOPLE HOPE.
YOU GIVE SOMEBODY A JOB.
YOU GIVE SOMEBODY RESPECT.
YOU GIVE SOMEBODY HOUSING LIKE PORTICO HOUSING INITIATIVE
THAT I WANT THE CITY TO SUPPORT.
THAT PREVENTS CRIME AND RESTORES A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THE WAY I SEE THIS IS -- AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT
YESTERDAY -- THIS OFFICE WHICH WOULD PUT THE CITY OF TAMPA
ON THE MAP HERE IN THE "FREE" STATE OF FLORIDA.
AND I SAY THAT WITH QUOTES.
AND IN THE "FREE" STATE OF FLORIDA FOR FORWARD-LOOKING
COMPASSION.
I SEE IT WITH WRAP-AROUND SERVICES AND TO ABE BROWN
MINISTRIES, LIKE THE PORTICO AND SO FORTH.
I SEE IT FOR REFERRAL AND LEGAL ASSISTANCE.
I HAVE BEEN MEANING TO DO THIS FOR YEARS AND I AM GOING TO
DO IT.
CALL MY FRIENDS AT THE GEORGE EDGECOMB ASSOCIATION AND FOR
WOMEN LAWYERS AND HISPANIC BAR AND GET GROUPS TO PETITION
THE COURT UNDER THE MASSACRED AMENDMENT 4 FROM 2018, TO HAVE
FEES AND FINES TO RELEASE SO PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE.
BIGGEST STAKEHOLDERS.
ANOTHER REASON FOR THIS ISSUE, PEOPLE SEE THIS ISSUE, I AM
NOT TOUCHING THAT.
NOT A SAFE ISSUE DEALING WITH CRIMINALS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
IT IS A SAFE ISSUE.
IF YOU ARE A FAMILY MEMBER, EVERY FAMILY HAS SOMEONE WHO HAS
DONE A MISTAKE AND GOTTEN CAUGHT AND IN NEED OF -- MIND YOU,
THEY PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY.
AND THEY ARE OUT IN.
I AM NOT TALKING OF SEX OFFENDERS AND MURDERERS.
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE FOLKS -- 90% OF THE PEOPLE PAID
THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY.
SO MANY GREAT GROUPS.
THE PORTICO, WHY, JUSTIN DE LA ROSA.
GREATEST GUY IN THE WORLD, THE JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER
FEDERATION TO HELP US WITH THE FIRST ONE.
OUR FRIENDS AT THE -- WHAT IS THAT, DESMOND NEAL VOTES
GROUP, FLORIDA RIGHTS COALITION THAT DID SO MUCH WORK FOR
AMENDMENT 4 AND ABE BROWN MINISTRIES.
TELLING PEOPLE JESUS IS ALIVE ON EARTH HE WOULD BE VOLUNTEERING
AT ABE BROWN MINISTRIES.
WITH COUNCIL'S CONSENT IS TO DO A MOTION TO PERHAPS COME
BACK ON THIS -- FOR AN UPDATE OF WHERE IT IS GOING AND
EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
JUST TELL ME HOW MUCH TIME AGAIN WITH COUNCIL'S CONSENT.
BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD ISSUE THAT TAMPA COULD
HAVE A GOOD FOOTPRINT ON.
ISSUE OF COMPASSION AND SEEING THE BEST IN PEOPLE.
SO IMPORTANT.
SEEING THE BEST IN PEOPLE.
02:10:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:10:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THIS IS IMPORTANT DISCUSSION AND I APPRECIATE IT.
HE WAS GOING TO ASK, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS?
COMING BACK WITH AN UPDATE, BUT WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS TO
MOVE THIS OFFICE FORWARD?
02:10:27PM >> SO WE HAVE TRIED TO MAXIMIZE ALL THAT WE CAN DO WITH THE
CONSTANT BUDGET FUNDING IN TERMS OF REFERRING SERVICES AND
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF ALL THAT IS
AVAILABLE SO WE CAN SHARE THAT.
BUT IF WE WANT TO UP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE LIKE OTHER CITIES,
WE WILL HAVE TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN ORDER TO MAKE
SURE THAT HAPPENS.
02:10:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WILL LET YOU LEAD.
02:10:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO WHAT IS THE WISH OF COUNCIL?
ANYBODY ELSE?
02:10:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:10:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WHAT -- WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFF-LINE.
WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT DO WE NEED TO GET THIS -- I WOULD HOPE
THAT THE NEXT MAYOR -- BY THE WAY THIS IS PART OF THE RACIAL
RECONCILIATION AGENDA AND TO TELL THE BOARD THEY CAN MAKE THE
THE ISSUES THE PART OF THE NEXT MAYOR'S RACE.
LOOK THEM IN THE EYE, WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH RETURNING
CITIZENS AND WHAT YOU WILL DO WITH THIS OFFICE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A GOOD AMOUNT FOR THE BEGINNING, SO TO
SPEAK.
02:11:26PM >> OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WOULD WANT TO CONNECT WITH MIKE
PERRY IN THE BUDGET OFFICE AND GET A LEVEL SET BEFORE COMING
BACK.
02:11:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL WORK WITH HAGAR, OUR GOOD FRIEND WHO DOES
SUCH A GREAT JOB.
AND I NEED TO LOOK AT MY CALENDAR -- LET ME PUT IT ON THE
CALENDAR.
TRUST ME, I AM A VERY STUPID SMART GUY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, IN OCTOBER?
DO YOU THINK OCTOBER?
OKAY.
LET'S DO THAT.
DO WE HAVE -- HOW DOES THAT CALENDAR LOOK THERE?
HOW ABOUT OCTOBER 23?
THAT APPEARS TO BE --
02:12:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU PUT YOUR WISHES AND DESIRES IN THE
FORM OF A MOTION?
02:12:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, I KNOW, RIGHT.
IF I MAY, MOTION TO HAVE CITY STAFF INCLUDING MISS McKENZIE
RETURN TO US OCTOBER 23 WITH THE UPDATE ON THE FORMAL
CREATION OF THE OFFICE OF RETURNING CITIZENS FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
AND BETWEEN THEN, WE WILL DEAL WITH THE BUDGET ISSUE.
02:12:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:12:31PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:12:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
ITEM 56.
STAFF AND LEGAL TO COME BACK WANT ORDINANCE CONSISTENT WITH
STATE LAWS.
MEMO FROM JUSTIN.
JUSTIN, SIR.
02:12:45PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEMO THAT I
SUBMITTED.
02:12:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:12:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
AGAIN, MISS McKENZIE AND I HAD A LOT OF COOL CONVERSATIONS
YESTERDAY.
FOR PURPOSES OF HISTORY, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE PASSED
APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE WHICH I THINK IT WAS AWESOME.
BUT WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND WITH THE
LABOR UNIONS TO GET.
YOU KNOW WE STARTED FROM THE MIDDLE.
TOOK OFF SOME OF THE EXCESSES, IN MY OPINION, WHAT ST. PETE
DID AND WENT FOR THE MIDDLE AND HAD A REASONABLE MANDATE.
ULTIMATELY, WHAT TALLAHASSEE DID, LOOKING AT THINGS THAT SAN
FRANCISCO DID AND FRIENDS NEW TAMPA, PREEMPTED.
OUR ORDINANCE WAS MORE MODERATE AND WE SURVIVED FOR
THREE YEARS.
WE NEVER GOT SUED.
THAT WAS MY NUMBER ONE INTENT TO NEVER GET SUED ON THAT.
WHATEVER TALLAHASSEE WAS GOING TO DO, THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
WE LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY WE COULD NOT DO ANY SORT OF A
MANDATE OF HAVING INCENTIVES.
I THINK THAT IS JUST LAME.
THE IDEA YOU WILL TELL A CONTRACTOR IF YOU CREATE A CERTAIN
NUMBER OF APPRENTICESHIPS STATE-CERTIFIED, WE WILL GIVE YOU
MONEY.
I THINK THAT WILL LIKELY DO IT ANYWAY, OR THEY ARE NOT GOING
TO DO IT, WHATEVER, I THINK THAT IS A SOFT FORM OF
TRICKLE-DOWN ECONOMICS ANYWAY.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS.
AND YOU HAVE A GOOD PATHWAY FOR THIS IS THAT YOU USE THOSE
DOLLARS THAT WE WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY USE TO A DEGREE FOR THAT.
AND ALSO IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS ORDINANCE.
AND TO FUND EXISTING APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.
YOU TALKED ABOUT -- I BELIEVE IT WAS HCC -- WHAT SOME OF OUR
UNION FRIENDS AND OTHER TRADE ASSOCIATION DO TO FUND THEM.
BECAUSE THE IDEA HERE ISN'T NECESSARILY TO DO A MANDATE.
DO SOMETHING THAT WORKS.
IF TALLAHASSEE TOOK AWAY OUR BEST TOOL, THAT SUCKS, BUT WE
GOT TO LOOK AT ANOTHER WAY.
SO, IF I MAY ASK MISS McKENZIE.
CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THAT BUDGET INVESTMENT?
02:14:50PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
SO OUR INTENTION WAS ACTUALLY HAVE A PERSON-CENTERED AID
APPROACH.
WE REALLY WANTED TO GROW THE NUMBER OF APPRENTICES.
THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS GETTING THAT TYPE OF TRAINING.
WITH THE STATE APPLICATION, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THE
APPROACH WE DID WITH THE -- WITH THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
BUT WE CAN STILL WORK WITH PEOPLE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE STARTED TO PILOT WITH HILLSBOROUGH COLLEGE
IS A PROGRAM AND IN THE TRADES AND MECHANICS WHERE WE -- WE
PAY SOME OF THE COSTS RELATED TO THE PROGRAMS.
SO WE ARE LOOKING ATPAYING FOR THEIR BOOKS THAT COULD BE QUITE
SUBSTANTIAL.
LOOKING AT PAYING FOR THEIR TOOLS.
SOMETHING THAT COULD GO TO THE ACTUAL PARTICIPANT IN THE
REGISTERED APPRENTICE PROGRAM.
WE ARE TRYING IT WITH MECHANICS AND GET OUT ANY KINKS AND
SCALE IT WITH OTHER TRADES AS WELL.
BUT THE INTENT, AGAIN, IS REALLY TO INCENT INDIVIDUALS TO
GET IN THE PRACTICE OF THE SKILLED TRADES.
02:15:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:15:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, COUNCIL.
CHECKING IN WITH HAGAR.
POOR THING.
SHE WILL BE LOOKING FOR MONEY UNDER COUCHES.
BUT WE TALKED OF $100,000.
02:16:09PM >> DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
1,000 TO 1500 PER APPRENTICE.
02:16:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT IS AWESOME.
I WILL SUGGEST, COUNCIL.
I MAKE A MOTION AS FOLLOWS.
I WILL WORK WITH HAGAR ON THIS.
MOTION FOR -- IT WILL BE A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT ON SEPTEMBER
18.
IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
SEPTEMBER 18 FOR A -- STAFF TO PROVIDE A MEMO ON A FORMER --
UP TO $100,000 APPRENTICESHIP INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY OF
TAMPA AND WHAT THAT PROGRAM WILL FORMALLY ENTAIL.
02:16:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:16:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT.
02:16:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:16:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT AS GREAT PROGRAM.
02:16:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
02:17:00PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:17:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY.
IS MR. SHELBY BACK?
WE NEED HIM FOR THE NEXT DISCUSSIONS.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:17:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. VASKE, ARE YOU WORKING ON WHAT IS COMING
BACK US TO OR SOMEONE ELSE.
02:17:20PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY.
I CAN'T BE TWO PLACE AT ONCE BUT STAFF IS WORKING ON THE
AMENDMENT AND HE WILL BE BACK.
02:17:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS LEFT.
NOT JUST TO --
02:17:32PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
I KNOW.
02:17:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE WILL BE SOME DISCUSSION.
OH, HERE YOU ARE.
YES, WE WERE.
02:17:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED TO HEAR ITEM 58 FIRST.
YOU WANT TO DO THEM TOGETHER -- WE WILL DO 58 AND 57 TOGETHER.
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE KICK THIS OFF.
02:17:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SURE.
COUNCIL, I AM PASSING AROUND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THIS HAS
BEEN SENT TO YOU PREVIOUSLY, AND IT IS ALSO IN THE BACK-UP
MATERIAL.
THIS THE RESOLUTION THAT ULTIMATELY THE STEERING DEVICE FOR
THE 2017 CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, WHICH WAS THE FIRST OF
ITS KIND IN THE CITY SINCE 1974.
A COUPLE THINGS THAT THAT COMMITTEE DID WAS RECOMMEND
PUTTING PERIODIC REVIEW INTO THE CHART THAT CAME BACK TO
COUNCIL.
COUNCIL PUT IT IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE.
PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.
AND THE VOTERS APPROVED IT.
NOW OF THE CHARTER SECTION THAT THEY GET IN 2025, AND EVERY
SEVEN YEARS THEREAFTER.
YOU ESTABLISH A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND THEN YOU DO
WHAT IT TAKES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT COMMENCE, AND HAVE IT COME
BACK -- I BELIEVE IT IS THE COUNCIL'S INTENTION TO HAVE THE
CHARTER QUESTIONS ON THE MARCH 2027 BALLOT.
WORKING BACKWARDS FROM THAT, TIM HEBERLINE HAS BEEN INFORMED
BY THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION THAT FOR THE STATE TO GET THINGS
THROUGH THE BALLOT ORDINANCES PASSED AND ADOPTED TO THE
SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION HAS TO BE BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF
QUALIFYING, THE FIRST DAY OF JANUARY IN 2027.
02:19:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, SINCE THIS IS INTERNAL COUNCIL
STUFF AND STAFF THAT WE ALREADY TAKEN THIS TIME, DO YOU MIND
IF I PAUSE THIS DISCUSSION AND GO BACK TO ITEM 20.
02:19:52PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT, FOR ITEM 20.
CAN I HAVE THE WOLF?
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE STRIKING THROUGH.
I WILL ASK CITY COUNCIL TO SUBSTITUTE THE AGREEMENT IN THE
SCOPE WITH THIS REVISED AGREEMENT.
02:20:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUBSTITUTE
SCOPE FOR ITEM 20.
02:20:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:20:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HAS BEEN FILED WITH THE CLERK.
02:20:31PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
I AM GETTING READY TO DO THAT.
02:20:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
02:20:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOUR MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.
02:20:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.
ADOPTING THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION THAT IN TWO SHAKES WILL
BE IN YOUR HANDS.
02:20:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MR. VASKE.
YOU SENT -- THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMPLETE FINAL.
02:20:54PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUST SEPARATE THE AGREEMENT.
02:20:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE CLERK.
02:21:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A WHOLE BRAND-NEW PACKET.
SUBSTITUTE SCOPE.
02:21:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO ADOPT
THE SUBSTITUTE SCOPE OF WORK IN ITEM 20, AND THERE IS SECOND FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:21:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION.
CAN WE -- ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE WORK ORDER FOR
LOWRY PARK OR JUST AN INTERNAL?
02:21:25PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
AS FAR AS A SEPARATE WORK ORDER TO DEAL WITH LOWRY PARK,
THAT WILL BE SOMETHING SEPARATE.
WORK INCLUDED HERE IS ONLY IF ANY OF THAT STUFF WOULD FIT ON
THE SAME PROPERTY.
AND CAN I MAKE ONE CLARIFYING STATEMENT?
BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS LOOKING TO EDUCATE.
AS FAR AS THE WORK ORDER QUESTIONS EARLIER AND IF THAT WOULD
COME BEFORE YOU, THE 200,000 THRESHOLD, ANYTHING UNDER 200,000
AT DEPARTMENT LEVEL WITH THE EXCEPTION WE WORK LAST YEAR
ON AND MADE A REVISION THAT CUMULATIVELY OVER $200,000
WOULD COME BEFORE YOU.
THE THRESHOLD IS THERE TO BE MADE.
02:22:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AS A COURTESY, BECAUSE THIS IS ON OUR RADAR,
NICE TO KNOW WHEN THAT STARTS SO WE CAN KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA
AND SEE ANY LAND AND THINK OF ANYTHING, WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
LOOKING FOR.
02:22:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
02:22:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY ONE THING ABOUT THIS.
02:22:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEFORE YOU CONCLUDE, WHAT WOULD BE IN ORDER
WOULD BE A MOTION TO MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
02:22:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTION RESOLUTION.
02:22:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK
FIRST.
02:22:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
SAID.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. MUTTERBACK, WHO YOU HAVE ONLY BEEN
HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT YOU CHANGED THE PROCESS
DRAMATICALLY, AND THE REASON WE ARE SEEING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU
PUT IN THE NEW RULES THAT YOU PUT IN PLACE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
02:22:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:22:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO STATE SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN
CARLSON SAID OF MR. MUTTERBACK.
YOU WERE HERE FOR FRIDAY, YOU ARE LIKE NO MORE FIRE STUFF,
MAN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE THICK OF IT.
AND STUFF THAT YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH.
AND YOU GO THE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS JUST KNOW THAT I SEE
THAT.
02:23:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, GUYS.
I WOULD HAVE LOST THE MONEY BUT YOU WOULD HAVE IT BACK
QUICK.
THANK YOU FOR DOING SUCH QUICK WORK.
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO ADOPT A SUBSTITUTE
RESOLUTION.
IS THERE A SECOND?
02:23:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:23:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
OKAY, MR. SHELBY, PICK BACK UP ON 57 AND 58.
SORRY FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
02:23:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE WORKING BACKWARDS.
02:23:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEGIN WITH THE END IN MIND AND WORK
BACKWARDS.
EVERY EIGHT YEARS AFTER 2025.
EVERY EIGHT YEARS SHOULD A CHART REVIEW COMMISSION PER THE
CHARTER.
I WAS ABOUT TO TELL COUNCIL THAT MR. HEBERLINE, THE AIDE
TO THE CHAIR, RECEIVED WORDS FROM THESUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS
THAT WHAT I SEE HERE -- EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SIGNED, SEALED
AND DELIVERED TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION BY JANUARY 11.
02:24:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TRANSLATED OR NOT TRANSLATED.
02:24:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SAID WITH SPANISH TRANSLATIONS.
IF YOU GET IT TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS EARLY, THEY HAVE
DONE THE SPANISH TRANSLATION THROUGH HAIR OFFICE.
02:24:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JANUARY OF '27.
SO BASICALLY, WHAT I AM SUGGESTING COUNCIL IS, YOU HAVE AN
OPTION AND I GAVE IT TO YOU IN WHAT I SENT YOU.
THE ORDINANCE HAS THE LANGUAGE BASICALLY FROM THE CHARTER
ITSELF.
AND I PLUG IT IN WHERE IT WOULD BE.
YOU HAVE AN OPTION.
YOU CAN EITHER MIMIC WHAT IS IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT I
PROVIDED YOU AS A GUIDE.
I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT IT CAN'T BE REVISED OR SUBSTITUTED.
BUT THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT THIS PREVIOUS CITY
COUNCIL LOOKED AT AND DELIVERED TO THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION.
THIS TIME AROUND, IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED IN THE
SENSE THAT YOU HAVE THE FUNDING PROVIDED FOR FULL
TRANSPARENCY IN THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.
SO YOUR OPTION IS TO WORKSHOP THIS TODAY OR ANOTHER DAY IN
THE SPECIAL CALL AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT LANGUAGE MORE
THAN WHAT IS ALREADY IN HERE FOR THE CHARTER -- EXCUSE ME, IN
THE ORDINANCE OR WHAT YOU DO IS MERELY BRING THIS TO LIFE
THROUGH YOUR ORDINANCE AND SAY ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION WILL
BE PROVIDED VIA RESOLUTION.
SO THAT WILL BUY YOU TIME TO DO THAT.
02:26:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY KNOWS I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
THESE DISCUSSIONS BEHIND THE SCENES.
02:26:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
02:26:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY GUT TELLS ME JUST TO FRAME THE ISSUE,
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON CHARTER REVIEW
ON COUNCIL.
CHARLIE, DID YOU EVER SERVE ON CHARTER REVIEW.
02:26:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE.
02:26:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OTHER THREE APPOINTED US AND WE HAD TO VOTE
ON THE RESULTS YOU HAVE IT.
02:26:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE SITTING IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION.
BECAUSE YOU SAW THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY OF THE LAST.
02:27:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TWO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REMEMBER
VIEW COMMISSION ARE ON THE EIGHTH FLOOR IN THE CITY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
02:27:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A LOT OF ENERGY AROUND THE GOVERNANCE.
MY GUT TELLS ME THAT WE NEED DO SOME HOMEWORK AND OUR
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND THOSE WHO HAVE AN OPINION ON
THIS.
YOU KNOW I THREW OUT PROPOSAL FOR CHARTER CHANGES NOT TOO
LONG AGO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WRAPPED INTO THIS.
AND I THINK THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIMILAR TYPES OF
IDEAS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE OF THESE CHANGES WILL ULTIMATELY
BE, BUT I THINK Y'ALL SHOULD COME BACK TO US WITH SOME
PROPOSALS OF HOW THIS ORDINANCE WILL LOOK LIKE.
WHAT YOU THINK THIS SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
WHERE YOU SEE SOME GAPS, WHERE YOU SEE SOME OF THIS.
THIS WILL BE A RESOLUTION, NOT AN ORDINANCE.
02:27:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE.
I DIDN'T PRINT OUT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, AND THAT IS IN YOUR
BACK-UP.
LANGUAGE THAT AND IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSE WAS TAKEN IN SECTION
10-10 OF THE CHARTER.
THAT RELEVANT LANGUAGE IS PUT IN THE SECTIONS.
THE ONLY LANGUAGE THAT REALLY TRACKS IS LANGUAGE THAT IS
REQUIRED BY THE CHARTER.
I ALSO ADDED LANGUAGE -- I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
THE LAST SESSION, COUNCILWOMAN, ABOUT THE THIRD -- THE THIRD
SECTION UP BEFORE "EFFECTIVE DATE."
BEFORE "CONFLICTS."
WHAT IS THE SECOND -- THE THIRD FROM THE LAST SECTION
18 ADDITIONAL FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MUST IS BE BY
RESOLUTION.
WHAT IT IS SAYING WE CAN PASS AN ORDINANCE TODAY TO CREATE
--
02:28:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE NEXT DATE.
02:28:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ON THE 28th.
CREATE AN ORDINANCE AND SET A TIME TO CREATE RESOLUTIONS
WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE MORE DIRECTION.
AND SO GIVE US SOME TIME, BUT THIS AT LEAST GETS THE PROCESS
STARTED.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CLEARLY?
02:29:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS WORKING BACKWARDS I LOOK AT IT,
YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CHART OF
HOW YOU MAKE YOUR APPOINTMENTS.
A COUNCIL MEMBER MADE THEIR APPOINTMENTS AND PLACED IN THE
RESOLUTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, DOES CITY COUNCIL WISH TO HAVE THE
OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR BOARD SEE THE APPLICATION OF THAT
PERSON SO THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING ON.
OR DO IT AS A GROUP.
DO IT DIFFERENTLY OR THE SAME.
YOU ARE NOT BOUND BY WHAT THE PREVIOUS CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION DID AND HOW IT DID IT.
02:29:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:29:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK WE -- THE PROCESS YOU DESCRIBE IS
FINE.
WE EACH NOMINATE SOMEBODY AND THEN WE VOTE ON IT BEEN.
02:30:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE HAVE TO CREATE -- WE NEED TO
CREATE THE PROCESS TO DO THAT.
SO -- BUT THAT HAS TO BE IN THE FORM -- A FORMAL RESOLUTION.
02:30:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD BE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
OTHER THING I THINK TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE FROM.
YOU COULD HAVE THE PEOPLE ON BOARD BUT DON'T HAVE A LEGAL
COUNSEL OR A FACILITATOR UNLESS YOU START THAT PROCESS.
02:30:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PRIVY TO THIS CONVERSATION, EARMARK OF
$126,000 IN THE 2026 BUDGET.
I AM STILL FEELING THAT -- HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE WE SPENT ON
THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION FACILITATOR?
02:30:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT IS, $60,000?
02:30:45PM >>HAGAR KOPESK:
HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
RIGHT AROUND $75,000.
02:30:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ONLY HAVE $150,000 FOR AN ATTORNEY AND
A FACILITATOR AND DEPENDS ON HOW BIG THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF
THIS CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS IS GOING TO BE.
IS THAT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO FUND ANY OTHER
EXPENSES WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT?
02:31:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT.
IN 2017, IT WAS TO BE PROVIDED BY THE CLERK.
BUT NO DISCUSSION OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE WHAT THAT WILL
ENTAIL.
CERTAINLY, THE CLERK HAS TO BE BROUGHT IN THE PROCESS EARLY
ON.
THE OTHER THING I SHOULD TELL YOU, IF YOUR GOAL IS TO -- LET'S
SAY BY THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER -- HAVE THAT BOARD BE COMPLETE
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY REVIEW WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU
HAVE TO PUT THEM IN THE FORM OF ORDINANCES WHICH REQUIRES
TWO READINGS AND THE TIME THERE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE LATE GETTING THIS TO THE SUPERVISOR OF
ELECTIONS.
YOUR SCOPE IS LIMITED TO HOW OFTEN YOU WILL GIVE THE
COMMITTEE TO FUNCTION.
YOU HAVEN'T DECIDED MONTHLY, BIWEEKLY OR WEEKLY.
AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SCOPE IS, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO
GET THE TIME TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
02:32:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST KIND OF LIKE -- YOU AND I HAD THESE
KIND OF DISCUSSIONS AND YOU BACK IT UP, IT APPEARS THAT
COUNCIL WAS ABLE TO APPOINT THE REPRESENTATIVES BY THIS
NOVEMBER.
AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO START THEIR WORK ROLLING INTO THE
FIRST OF -- YOU KNOW, THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, THAT WOULD GIVE
THEM, SAY, TEN-PLUS MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE
WORK.
I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE SCOPE AND THE
SCALE OF THIS PROCESS WILL BE.
HOW MUCH OF THE CHARTER WILL WE REOPEN.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, YOUR LIGHT WAS ON.
02:32:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
US THREE, VIERA, MIRANDA AND MYSELF.
BECAUSE THE CHARTER HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKED AT SINCE '75, I
THINK.
I THINK THE WAY IT WAS SET UP WORKED.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIME PERIOD EXACTLY, BUT THEY HAD
QUITE A FEW MEETINGS.
IT WAS A VERY, VERY GOOD BOARD, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF GOOD -- I
MEAN, YOU SAW WHO CAME OUT YOU HAVE THERE.
A LOT OF ELECTED CAME OUT OF THERE OR CITY ATTORNEYS.
ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
I LIKE HOW WE APPOINTED OUR ONE PERSON.
I APPOINTED COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT ASKED ME, AND I APPOINTED HIM THE
NEXT DAY.
BUT WE WILL SEE -- LOOK, SEE, MAKING MAGIC HAPPEN.
02:33:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WON BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
02:33:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WERE MY APPOINTEE.
THERE WAS NO ISSUES.
WE MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK AT THE AUGUST 28
MEETING FOR THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE CREATION THIS
COMMISSION, NUMBER ONE.
AND I GUESS, BY NOVEMBER, AS WAS MENTIONED OR SOONER, EACH
APPOINT OUR PERSON GOING BY THE SAME SET-UP AS IT DID BEFORE
AND GIVE THE COMMISSION TEN MONTHS WHATEVER IT IS TO WORK
AND MAKE IT TO THE DEADLINE OF JANUARY OF '27.
02:34:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:34:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MY VIEW OF THIS, I GO BACK WITH THE LAST ELECTION VOTE ON
CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
A LOT PROPOSED.
I VOTED FOR PROBABLY 10% OF THEM.
THE ONES I VOTED FOR, I STUCK WITH, AND WHEN THE MAYOR
VETOED THEM.
I CHOSE TO OVERRIDE THE VETO ON FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM.
FOLKS THAT SAY DON'T TOUCH THE CHARTER, IT IS THE
CONSTITUTION.
IT IS NOT THE 66 BOOKS OF THE BIBLE, WHATEVER.
IT IS NOT.
IT IS JUST NOT.
THAT IS JUST SILLY.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I DON'T SUPPORT RADICAL OR EXTREME CHANGES
OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
IF YOU HAVE THINGS ARE MORE MODERATE CHANGES ON LIKE WE DID.
SUBJECT IN THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ATTEMPTS.
THINGS I CAN SUPPORT.
BUT RADICAL CHANGES OF THE CHARTER, I DON'T SUPPORT.
POTENTIAL MODERATE TO CONSERVATIVE, OF COURSE, I AM FINE
WITH THAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION IN TERMS OF LAST TIME COUNCIL-WIDE
APPOINTEES.
02:35:20PM >> ALTERNATES.
02:35:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS BY A 4-3 VOTE.
IT JUST SEVEN?
02:35:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE ALTERNATES.
THE QUESTION.
BY THE WAY, THE 28th WILL BE A VERY FULL DAY.
TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM ON THE 28.
ANY LONG DISCUSSION, REMEMBER WE HAVE A BIG MEETING THAT NIGHT.
WE COULD SET -- IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
PUT THIS ON FOR THE 28th TO COME BACK WITH THE ORDINANCE TO
ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE.
AND AUTHORIZE THE USE OF RESOLUTION TO CONTINUE THE WORK OF
THE COUNCIL RATHER THAN HAVING TO DO IT ORDINANCE.
OKAY.
THE MEANTIME, I CAN WORK WITH THE CHAIR AND FRANKLY, THIS
MEANS WE WILL ENCOMPASS THE WORK OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS CERTAINLY THEIR OWN QUESTIONS AS TO
WHETHER THERE ARE THINGS THEY MAY WANT TO RECOMMEND TO THE
CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE TO THE CHARTER IN TERMS OF CLEANING UP
THE CHARTER.
THEY ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS OF CLEANING IT UP TO THE
LIKE.
AND THE ADMINISTRATION, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND
THE 28th, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF HOW
COUNCIL WILL ULTIMATELY SIGN AN AGREEMENT FOR LEGAL COUNCIL
AND SIGN AN AGREEMENT FOR FACILITATOR.
02:36:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:36:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:37:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SORRY.
02:37:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALL OF US HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS BEFORE.
BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES COUNCIL
HAVE RECOMMENDED CHARTER CHANGES, BECAUSE THAT WAS SPECIFIC
LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED.
ALL WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING -- YOU ANNIVERSARY THIS LIST
FROM LAST TIME, THERE ARE SOME GUIDELINES.
AND I SUGGEST WHATEVER WE PUT IN THERE AND ANYTHING ELSE
THAT THEY WANT TO RECOMMEND.
WHAT HAD TO HAPPEN WAS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD TO HAVE A
CONSENSUS TO RECOMMEND BACK TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL HAD TO
DISCUSS ON IT AND VOTE ON IT.
COUNCIL HAS THE YOU WILL THE MAP APPROVAL TO PUT IT ON THE
CHARTER, THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T.
MY POINT IS WE ARE NO NOT RECOMMENDING LANGUAGE TO THEM.
WE MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM LIKE THE BOARD DID LAST
TIME.
YOU SEE IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE LIST, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
AREN'T REALLY SOLVED STILL.
THE OTHER THING THAT THE COMMITTEE WILL BE A FILTER.
THEY CAN TAKE THE TIME THAT WE CAN'T TO GO THROUGH NEW
DETAIL TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES AND DEBATE THEM AND
COME BACK TO US WITH AT THAT RECOMMENDATION.
WE CAN STILL DEBATE THEM AND DISCUSS.
THEM DON'T PUT ANYTHING RIGHT IN THE CHART.
OTHER THING IN THE MOTION IS TO SET RULES FOR HOW THEY
WOULD OPERATE.
LAST TIME I FELT LIKE THE CONSULTANT HAD TOO MUCH POWER.
AND STARTED COMING IN GIVING ADVICE THAT WAS NOT IN THE
MOTION AND WAS NOT IN THE SET-UP OF IT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CONSULTANT SAID IS INSTEAD OF
HAVING A CHAIR, THE CONSULTANT WILL JUST LEAD IT.
I THOUGHT WE MISSED OUT BY HAVING CHAIR.
LYNN STEPPED UP AFTERWARDS AND WAS KIND OF THE SPOKESPERSON
FOR THE GROUP, BUT THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL CHAIR.
HARD TO RUN A DISCUSSION WOULDN'T SOMEBODY BEING CHAIR.
THE OTHER THING THE CONSULTANT AT BEGINNING -- IN THE FIRST
MEETING RECOMMENDED SUPERMAJORITY VOTE BECAUSE IT IS COMING
TO COUNCIL.
SUPERMAJORITY MEANT THE MAYOR HAD VETO POWER.
ANYTHING THAT THE SITTING MAYOR DIDN'T LIKE WOULDN'T GO
THROUGH.
DIDN'T MEAN THAT THE GROUP DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT BUT GAVE TOO
MUCH POWER TO ONE PERSON.
I THINK A MAJORITY WILL BE FINE.
HAVING CHAIR WILL BE A GOOD IDEA.
I WANT -- THE OTHER THING IS, WE NEED A LIST.
REALLY A LIST OF QUESTIONS.
OTHER THING TO THE POINT OF, DON'T TOUCH THE CHARTER.
THAT CAME UP BY THIS ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY DIDN'T LIKE
WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
THREE OUT OF FOUR PASSED.
AND THE LAST TIME THEY WANTED A CHARTER CHANGE.
AND DIDN'T BRING A LINE OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT CHARTER CHANGE
WAS A BAD IDEA LIKE THE FIRST BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE CHARTER
CHANGE, WHICH MEANS DISINGENUOUS ALL THE TIME.
THE CHARTER HAS TO BE UPDATED.
EVEN THE U.S. CONSTITUTION HAS THE ABILITY TO BE MODIFIED
TIME AFTER TIME.
AND THIS CHARTER WASN'T WRITTEN HOW IT WAS PURCHASE.
WE VOTED TO HAVE IT GENDER NEUTRAL BECAUSE SAID "HE"
EVERYWHERE.
AND SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OF DEPARTMENTS THAT DIDN'T EXIST
ANYMORE.
ANYWAY, SHOP SUGGESTIONS.
02:40:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:40:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE.
I THINK A CHAIR WOULD BE VERY USEFUL, AND COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON RIGHT, SUPERMAJORITY CUT THE CONVERSATION.
IT WAS CONSTANTLY A 5-4 -- NO SUPERMAJORITY WOULD HAVE BEEN
SEVEN INSTEAD OF SIX.
02:40:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SIX WOULD HAVE TO BE.
02:40:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE THEY ARE A RECOMMENDING BODY.
WE ARE THE ONES THAT DECIDE WHAT ACTUALLY GOES FORWARD.
AND SO WE NEED A SUPERMAJORITY TO ACTUALLY GET ANYTHING
THROUGH.
BECAUSE IF THE MAYOR WERE TO VETO, WE WOULD NEED THAT.
I REALLY THINK BECAUSE THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, HEAVY LIFT WAS
DONE BY THE PREVIOUS CHARTER AND WE HAD 18 AMENDMENTS.
SIM SIMPLE.
TAKE THE DEPARTMENTS.
MAKING IT GENDER NEUTRAL.
WE HAD SOMETHING -- PRINT IN THE NEWSPAPER AND DIDN'T
MENTION THE INTERNET WHERE NOW WE ARE PUTTING STUFF ON THE
INTERNET.
JUST TRYING TO NEUTRALIZE A LOT OF THAT LANGUAGE FROM AGE.
I THINK WE DID THE VERY HEAVY LIFT.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE ARE ABLE -- THAT THIS COMMISSION
IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF LOOK AT OTHER THINGS OTHER
THAN THAT.
WE HAD TO DEVOTE SO MUCH TIME TO THOSE SMALL YET MIGHTY
HEAVY LIFTS THAT THIS WOULD -- THIS WILL BE INTERESTING.
SO I DO AGREE WITH BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT GOING BACKWARD AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT REMEMBER NOT
DON'T, ONLY DID WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT AND COUNCIL HAD TO
APPROVE, THEN IT HAD TO GO THE CITY ATTORNEY WHERE THEY
FIGURED OUT LANGUAGE AND THEN APPROVE THAT AGAIN.
TEN MONTHS -- WE DON'T HAVE TEN MONTHS.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TEN MONDAYS.
WE NEED TO HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF US FOR FIRST CONSIDERATION
PROBABLY NO LATER THAN OCTOBER 1.
02:42:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS TEN MONTHS.
02:42:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NINE MONTHS.
02:42:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU START FROM JANUARY -- IF WE APPOINT
THE PEOPLE BY NOVEMBER --
02:42:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY BE COUNCIL'S DECISION TO DECIDE IT
IS GOING TO BE -- THIS IS VERY BECAUSE YOU RAISED THE ISSUE
OF THE CHAIR.
MULTIPLE RESOLUTIONS THAT THIS COUNCIL PASSED AND THIS 588 IF
YOU LOOK AT THE BACK OF THE STRIKE-THROUGHS OF WHAT COUNCIL
AGREED UPON AND PASSED AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHARTER
REVIEW COMMISSION AND COUNCIL ITSELF.
SECTION 6 ON PAGE TWO OF THE EXHIBIT ACTUALLY STRUCK THE
DECISION THAT COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY MADE TO SELECT A
CHAIRPERSON.
AND A VICE CHAIRPERSON.
OTHER THING IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, I HAD THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO ANDREA ZELMAN, THE STYE -- THE CITY
ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS.
IT TURNS OUT SYSTEMIC ISSUES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE
CHARTER NOT WITH POLICY BUT HOUSEKEEPING.
ALL THE SPECIAL ACTS OF WHAT PART B OF THE CHARTER IS, WHICH
CREATES A LOT OF CONFUSION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REFERENCE TWO
SEPARATE PARTS OF THE CHARTER.
HEAVY LIFTING, YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
DO THAT KIND OF HOUSEKEEPING, BECAUSE THEY OFFERED TO DO IT.
02:43:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STRUCTURAL CHANGES.
02:43:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE ASK FOR THEIR SUGGESTIONS ON
STRUCTURAL CHANGES SO WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE SCOPE?
02:44:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ABSOLUTELY.
02:44:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I WOULD -- THAT IS A MOTION I WOULD LIKE
TO MAKE TODAY AND THEN AFTER WE APPROVE THIS, I AM GOING
TO DO IT RIGHT NOW BEFORE I FORGET.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT -- SORRY, IT HAS
BEEN A REALLY LONG WEEK.
ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO SUBMIT THEIR SUGGESTIONS SCOPE
OF REVIEW FOR THE CITY'S CHART BY FOCUSING ON STRUCTURAL
CHANGES BY -- GIVE ME A DATE, Y'ALL.
02:44:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OCTOBER 9.
YOU WANT SOONER --
02:44:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OCTOBER 2 --
02:44:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OF THIS YEAR?
02:44:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE NEED TO GET THIS STARTED.
02:44:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COMMITTEE WON'T BE PUT TOGETHER UNTIL
NOVEMBER AND IT MUST BE JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.
02:45:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT WE NEED TO PUT IT IN.
02:45:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SEPTEMBER 18 OR OCTOBER 9.
02:45:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OCTOBER 9 AS A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
02:45:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION TO FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:45:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD LOVE -- I KEPT
ALL MY BOOKS.
I HAVE ALL OF MY GIANT BOOKS FROM THAT.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET A STRIKE-THROUGH CHANGES
THAT THE 2018 CHARTER COMMISSION DID TO THE -- TO
THE ACTUAL CHARTER?
I THINK THAT WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL.
IF WE WERE ABLE TO SEE WHAT ACTUALLY WAS CHANGED.
02:45:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE DOCUMENT MUST LIVE IN THE ARCHIVES
FOR SURE.
02:45:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT DOES.
I AM JUST NOT SURE WHERE.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF -- I AM ASSUMING THAT WILL
BE THE CLERK'S DEPARTMENT, BUT I AM NOT POSITIVE, TO
PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH A COPY OF A COPY OF THE
STRIKE-THROUGH LANGUAGE OF THE CHARTER APPROVAL OF 2019 BY
THAT SAME DATE -- AGAIN, AS STAFF REPORT.
02:46:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
02:46:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
02:46:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
02:46:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAYBE I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS -- WERE YOU
GOING TO ASK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO GIVE A LIST.
02:46:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:46:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE TO CLEAR UP IN
THE CHARTER BECAUSE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TECHNICALLY
REPRESENTS BOTH OF US.
02:46:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL CLOSE THE LOOP AND MAKE A MOTION TO
ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO COMMIT THEIR LIST OF --
02:46:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE CHARTER.
02:46:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RECOMMENDED -- THEY ARE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS
OF THE CHARTER BY THE SAME DATE WHICH IS OCTOBER 9, ALSO AS
WRITTEN REPORT.
02:47:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:47:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
02:47:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
REMEMBER THEY HAVE TO DEBATE IT, AND WE HAVE
TO DEBATE.
NOT CHANGING IT BUT RECOMMENDING A QUESTION.
02:47:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
02:47:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A DISCUSSION WHAT WILL BE GOING IN THE
SCOPE THAT GETS PRESENTED FOR THE REVIEW -- NOT THE ACTUAL.
02:47:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON OCTOBER 9 WITH THE SCOPE.
02:47:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BY THAT POINT.
IF I CAN FINISH -- CLOSE THE LOOP ON THIS.
ON THE 28th, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, MADAM CLERK,
TO COME BACK ON THE 28th OR WAS THAT DONE?
02:47:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVEN'T DONE IT YET.
02:47:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HERE IS THE THING.
BY THE OCTOBER DATE, THAT ORDINANCE WILL ALREADY HAVE BEEN
ADOPTED, AND THAT COMMITTEE WILL BE IN EXISTENCE, AND WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD.
02:47:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT I ALSO WANT TO -- WHILE I AM ON THE SAME
TANGENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO -- DO WE WANT TO
DO THIS AT A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THESE OR WORK THESE -- TALK
ABOUT IT DURING REGULAR SESSION.
02:48:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
REGULAR SESSION.
02:48:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM JUST REMINDING COUNCIL THIS IS THE
TIME OF DAY WILL GET TO IT.
02:48:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAKE A MOTION ON OCTOBER 23 THAT WE DISCUSS
THIS, BECAUSE IT WILL BE RIGHT AFTER WE GET THAT.
WE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WILL BE ABLE TO RESEARCH
IT.
IF YOU GIVE IT US TO FOR TOO LONG, WE WILL FORGET ABOUT IT.
SO WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION ON THE 23rd, THAT WILL BE THE
FIFTH STAFF REPORT AND ADD NO MORE STAFF REPORTS.
02:48:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:48:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SIX IN SOMEONE ELSE ADDED?
OH, THAT WAS A WRITTEN.
OKAY.
BUT THAT COULD BE PRETTY QUICK.
THAT WILL BE THE SIXTH AND FINAL STAFF REPORT OF THE DAY.
02:49:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
OKAY MR. SHELBY.
02:49:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK SOONER.
02:49:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
02:49:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO -- WE CAN NOT WAIT
THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
WE STILL HAVE TO COME BACK -- MAYBE COME BACK ON THAT, BUT
WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK -- AND WORK WITH THE CHAIR TO DO
IT.
02:49:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM SAYING.
COME BACK TO TALK OF THIS SPECIFIC THING WHICH IS THE SCOPE
OF REVIEW.
02:49:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO WE CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING
THE MEMBERS AND ALSO THE FACILITATOR AND THE LEGAL.
02:49:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SPECIFY MY MOTION ON OCTOBER 23, THEIR
CITY COUNCIL WILL DISCUSS THE SCOPE OF REVIEW INCLUDING
EVERYBODY ELSE'S OPTION -- OR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT IS WHEN WE WILL BRING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE WILL LOOK AT EVERYONE'S RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE WILL HAVE
A CONVERSATION JUST ABOUT THE SCOPE OF REVIEW.
02:50:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:50:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION OR MODIFICATION?
02:50:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:50:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
INSTEAD OF "SCOPE OF REVIEW," CALL IT
"RECOMMENDED ISSUES TO DISCUSS."
02:50:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RECOMMENDED ISSUES TO DISCUSS.
02:50:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:50:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DIRECTION FOR THE UPCOMING CHARTER --
02:50:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RECOMMENDED -- SAY THAT AGAIN?
02:50:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM SORRY.
02:50:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO CREATE IS
A RESOLUTION DEFINING --
02:50:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU SEE WHAT IS IN THE PRESENT
RESOLUTION IN 2017, THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS.
02:50:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
02:50:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL SAY ON THE 23rd OF OCTOBER,
COUNCIL WILL ADDRESS THE SCOPE OF THE -- THE SCOPE FOR THE
RESOLUTION OR THE CREATION OF THE --
02:50:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
IT IS THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE CHARTER REVIEW TO
REVIEW.
02:51:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE MAIN TOPICS.
02:51:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU HAD A BETTER -- INSTEAD OF SCOPE --
02:51:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
RECOMMENDED ISSUES TO DISCUSS.
02:51:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ON OCTOBER 23, WE WILL DISCUSS THE
RECOMMENDED ISSUES USING INPUT FROM ALL OF THE AREAS WE
HAVE.
02:51:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T THINK ISSUE IS THE WORD.
I THINK SCOPE IS THE APPROPRIATE WORD.
02:51:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SCOPE IS REALLY NARROWLY DEFINED.
WITH THE CALIBER OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HOPE TO PUT ON THE
COMMITTEE.
WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO DISCUSS IT.
I WANT TO PUT ONE THING ON THE FLOOR.
ONE THING THAT WASTED A LOT OF TIME BROUGHT AN EXAMPLE OF
ANOTHER CHARTER AND MADE US GO LINE BY LINE.
MAYBE IT WAS NECESSARY AT THAT TIME.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO LINE BY LINE.
THEY CAN START WITH THE ISSUES AND DISCUSS THEM AND MAYBE
EVEN THE AGENDA THE FIRST FEW MEETINGS CAN DISCUSS OUR
ISSUES AND THE LAST COUPLE, DISCUSS THEIR OWN.
02:52:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SAME HORRIBLE FACILITATOR AT THE CRA
MEETING?
02:52:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SHE WAS GREAT.
SHE WAS PHENOMENAL.
BUT WE DESPERATELY -- IT WAS ANTIQUATED.
02:52:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE GOT BOGGED DOWN GOING LINE BY LINE.
TAKING THE PRONOUNS OUT, WE HAD TO GO LINE BY LINE.
NEXT TIME THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO LINE BY LINE.
AND DISCUSS THE QUESTIONS.
THEY LEAD IT AND HAVE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY DON'T HAVE
TO WASTE TIME TO GO LINE BY LINE.
02:52:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND AUTHENTICITY
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:52:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, SUPERMAJORITY TO GET
SOMETHING TO CITY COUNCIL.
UPON FIRST IMPRESSION, A SIMPLE MAJORITY WILL DO WELL, UPON
FIRST IMPRESSION, BUT IF THEY COME BACK WITH WHATEVER, SOME
OBSCENE NUMBER OF CHARTER AMENDMENTS TO LOOK LIKE IT IS PART
OF SOME POLITICAL AGENDA OR WHATEVER, IT WILL NOT BE WELL
TAKEN.
IN OTHER WORDS, I -- I AM FAVORABLE TO WHAT Y'ALL ARE
TALKING ABOUT SO LONG -- I WILL GIVE YOU A DOUBLE AND
STRETCH IT TO A TRIPLE.
THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING.
02:53:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAJORITY IS 5-4.
A SUPERMAJORITY.
02:53:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:53:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM GOING TO SUPPORT HER MOTION AND
MAKE A MOTION AFTER THAT FOR MR. SHELBY TO COME BACK WITH
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
02:53:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, PLEASE RESTATE YOUR
MOTION.
02:53:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I MOTION THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS A
DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR --
02:53:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
02:53:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
-- GOALS AND OBJECTING OBJECTIVES/SCOPE FOR
THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO CONSIDER, INCLUDING ALL YOU
HAVE THE INFORMATION WE ARE RECEIVING VIA STAFF REPORT
AT OUR OCTOBER 23 MEETING IN ADDITION TO --
02:54:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:54:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
-- DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT SEPARATELY?
TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS?
THAT IS MY MOTION.
02:54:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:54:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LIKE THAT.
A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
02:54:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
VERY QUICKLY TO LIMIT THE STAFF REPORTS -- NO
MORE STAFF REPORTS FOR OCTOBER 23.
02:54:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:54:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:54:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET HIM MAKE HIS MOTION FIRST.
02:54:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I ASK FOR --
02:54:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TO SET IT FOR FIRST READING.
02:54:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:54:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR MR. SHELBY TO COME BACK FOR AN ORDINANCE
OF FIRST READING AT THE AUGUST 28 REGULAR MEETING TO
ESTABLISH THE CITY OF TAMPA CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
02:54:55PM >> SECOND.
02:54:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WORD -- THE
TERM "HEAVY LIFTING" WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AND I THINK THE
COMMISSION FROM 2018, BEING THAT IT HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED
SINCE THE '70s.
A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFT WILL BE DONE AND MORE OF A
STREAMLINED PROCESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS FRESHER.
BUT IF WE -- THIS IS FOR LATER DISCUSSION, GET OUR
APPOINTMENTS IN BY NOVEMBER, I THINK THE COMMISSION BEGINS
IN JANUARY RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS.
AND THEY WILL GET -- THEY WILL HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
WE WILL BE ON SCHEDULE AND WILL GIVE US TEN MONTHS.
IF THERE ARE ISSUE, ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO BEFORE WE HAVE TO
TAKE IT TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION AND QUALIFYING AND ON
THE BALLOT.
I THINK THE KINKS WERE WORKED OUT IN THE PREVIOUS ONE.
THAT SUPPLY MOTION.
02:55:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
KNOCK ON WOOD.
MOTIONING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS.
MR. SHELBY.
02:55:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:55:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THING IS GOOD.
WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE AHEAD.
I ENCOURAGE YOU HOW ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO KEEP THAT
GOING.
THAT'S IT.
LAST ITEM OF BUSINESS, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:56:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, I DO WANT TO PUNT ON COUNCIL'S RADAR.
AND I AM NOT SURE HOW TO -- HOW TO YOU KEEP THIS -- THESE
IDEAS OF -- AND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT
NEXT WEEK -- SORRY, THE 28th TO APPROVE THIS.
THINGS LIKE THE CHAIR, THE NO SUPERMAJORITY.
WE NEED TO START -- WE HAD AN E-MAIL, I WANT TO SAY, BEFORE
THAT WAS DEDICATED JUST TO SUGGESTIONS OR IF WE DIDN'T, WE
NEED HAVE ONE, THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE CHARTER REVIEW FOR
THIS YEAR.
02:56:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE OF TWO YOU GUYS ON IT.
I THINK YOUR INPUT WILL BE INVALUABLE AND BECAUSE TO WORK
WITH THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND BUMPS.
SO MAYBE WHEN YOU GUYS COME TO THE --
02:57:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HATE TO WAIT UNTIL --
02:57:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION IS, WE CAN START THAT
DISCUSSION ON AUGUST 28, BECAUSE I AM GOING.
BY THE WAY, I AM GOING TO ASK ALL OF YOUR PLEASE, TO TAKE A
LOOK -- RELY ON WHAT WAS DECIDED BUT AT THE KIND OF THINGS
THAT WERE GIVEN.
KIND OF THINGS, FOR INSTANCE, THERE SAYS THEY SHALL MEET AT
LEAST ONCE A MONTH OR MORE IF THEY DESIRE DEPENDING ON WHAT
YOUR SCOPE IS.
IF YOU RECRUIT PEOPLE, YOU MAY HAVE TO MEET TWICE A WEEK OR
TWICE A MONDAY WITH THE.
PLEASE TAKE LOOK AT THOSE.
DON'T -- LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
AND SEE WHAT YOUR OWN INPUT IS AND COME TO A CONSENSUS SO I
CAN COME BACK ON THE 28th TO OF THE PEOPLE YOU ARE
RECRUITING OR RECOMMENDING AND SOLICIT AND ASK TO BE
APPOINTED SO YOU CAN TELL THEM WHAT THEY ARE SIGNING UP FOR.
02:58:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:58:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT
THIS, YOU REMINDED ME.
THIS IS NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT A PRIOR ADMINISTRATION.
THEY REFUSED TO ADVERTISE IT AT ALL.
WE EVEN MADE A MOTION WHICH WE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY TO ASK
THEM TO PUT IT ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE AS AN EVENT AND THEY
REFUSED TO DO THAT.
AS A RESULT, WE HAD TWO MEETINGS THAT HAD ANYBODY FROM THE
PUBLIC.
IN EACH CASE, ONE PERSON WHO HAD A SPECIFIC AGENDA ORGANIZED
PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND PROPOSE THOSE ITEMS.
ENDED UP THAT TWO APPLICATIONS WERE ON THERE THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T WANT.
HAD THEY ADVERTISED IT, MORE DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE SHOWING HOW
TO DO INPUT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD DO THAT.
02:58:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMIND ME.
02:59:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LAST WEEK OF OCTOBER.
02:59:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR
PERSON.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:59:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONLY THING I DID WANT TO SAY.
I COMPLETELY AGREE NOT ONLY THE ADVERTISING BUT THE SOCIAL
MEDIA.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THAT -- I AM TAKING NOTE.
I WILL KEEP THESE.
BUT I DO BELIEVE WHEN YOU TALK TO YOUR FOLKS, YOU SHOULD
TALK ABOUT THEM ABOUT TWICE A MONTH.
AND ONLY BECAUSE WHEN OFF MONTH BETWEEN, IT IS REALLY HARD
TO REMEMBER.
AND THAT WAY IF THEY END EARLY, WAHOO.
IF THEY DON'T, THEY REALLY HAVE TIME.
I AM TERRIFIED OF THE TIME HERE.
SO IF WE DO TWICE A MONTH, THEN THEY -- THEY MIGHT JUST BE
DONE.
02:59:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF COUNCIL IS WILLING TO PUT IT INTO THE
ORDINANCE, I CAN PUT THAT IN THE ORDINANCE WHEN TO COMES
BACK.
02:59:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LOOKING AT THIS, WE HAVE LOOK AT THE
FACILITATOR, ATTORNEY, OTHER EXPENSES, LUNCH.
03:00:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY WERE EVENING MEETINGS.
03:00:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, TO FOLLOW.
YOU AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW.
THE CHARTER DOES STATE -- AND NECESSARY FUNDING SHOULD BE
PROVIDED TO PROVIDE FULL TRANSPARENCY AND CITIZEN
PARTICIPATION IN THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.
THAT IS IN THE CHARTER.
03:00:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:00:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ALREADY HAD ONE PERSON CONTACTED ME
INTERESTED IN BEING APPOINTED.
LAST TIME, COUNCILMAN CARLSON CALLED ME THE NIGHT BEFORE
EATING FRENCH TOAST ON FOWLER AVENUE.
03:00:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PLAIN FRENCH TOAST.
03:00:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLAIN FRENCH TOAST.
NOT 2018 ANYMORE AS -- I WISH IT WERE.
PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE VERY, VERY BUSY.
I WOULD THINK MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
ADVERTISING.
WHY?
BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE INQUIRING.
THIS A BIG DEAL, THE CITY OF TAMPA CONSTITUTION.
WE DIDN'T ADDRESS FROM SINCE THE 1970S.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER CAPIN THAT BROUGHT THUMB.
IT WAS OUTDATED.
IT NEEDED A REFRESHING.
THAT WE DO IT ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE WON'T HAVE THESE --
LIKE I SAID IT MIGHT SHALL MORE CON CEASE AND THAT HEAVY
LIFT SOMETHING OUT OF THE WAY.
AND A MUCH SMOOTHER PROCESS.
03:01:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU LIKE, YOU CAN GIVE MORE
CONSIDERATION INDIVIDUALLY OF HOW YOU WANT TO SOLICIT
PARTICIPATION FOR MEMBERSHIP.
AND IF YOU HAVE DIRECTION AND A CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL.
I CAN PUT THAT IN A RESOLUTION.
03:01:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:01:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST WITHIN MORE THING.
WE WILL WON'T GO THROUGH THE ISSUES WE SUGGEST NOW.
I HIRE LAWYERS TO LOOK AT CONTRACTS, FOR EXAMPLE, A CONTRACT
-- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU AGREE WITH THIS.
BUT THE CONTRACT, YOU MAY HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP ON THE
WAY IN, BUT YOU HAVE TO WRITE IT TO EXIT.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING DO YOU WHO YOU SOLVE CONFLICTED AND
HOW DO YOU EXIT.
A LOT OF THE CONFLICT OVER THE LAST 16 OR SO YEARS SOME OF
IT IS ILL DEFINED.
FIXES SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL.
ALSO PUTTING LIMITS LIKE NOT ALLOWING A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER
TO WIN THE KARAOKE CONTEST TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
[LAUGHTER]
03:02:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED
FROM THE COMPETITION BECAUSE OF PROFESSIONAL TRAINING.
SHE IS NOT AN AMATEUR.
SHE IS NOW A PROFESSIONAL.
SHE IS NOT AN AMATEUR.
I CALL FOR DISQUALIFICATION.
03:02:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, SIR.
03:02:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CALL FOR A URINE TEST.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:02:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I ASK MISS SHARP TO BRING ME MY MOTIONS
FOLDER.
I FORGOT.
03:02:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, SOMETHING REASONABLY
UNFORESEEABLE.
IN MY CASES, 15 PAGES.
THEY ARE AWFUL AND BRUTAL.
SOMETHING LIKE AS LONG AS IT IS REASONABLY FORESEEABLE,
YEAH, I THINK THAT IS FINE.
03:03:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
IS THAT IT.
ARE WE DONE WITH THIS?
03:03:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT A GREAT CONVERSATION.
03:03:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WAS GREAT CONVERSATION.
NEW BUSINESS.
START ON THIS SIDE.
MR. MIRANDA.
03:03:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MAKE A MOTION OFF-SITE COMMENDATION FOR
BAPTIST INSTITUTION CHURCH IN CELEBRATION OF 160th BIRTHDAY.
03:03:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
IS THAT ALL?
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:03:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I STARTED TO SING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
CHOIR.
WHERE IT ALL BEGAN.
03:03:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHERE IT ALL BEGAN.
DIDN'T SERVE YOU VERY WELL AT FOREST HILLS, DID IT?
03:04:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE MAKE A MOTION.
I ALREADY SPOKE SOME OF THE ATTORNEYS AND CHIEF BENNETT.
MAKE A MOTION FOR A WRITTEN REPORT ON ZION CEMETERY AT THE
SEPTEMBER 18 REGULAR SESSION MEETING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE
AND STATUS ON WHAT IS HAPPENING.
AGAIN, I ALREADY TALKED TO SOME OF THEM.
03:04:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD MOTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:04:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WAS GOING TO SAY OUT OF FUNDING, I SPEAK
THIS OUT OF PURELY IGNORANCE.
AGAIN, $8 MILLION.
IS THE COUNTY LOOKING AT HELPING AT THAT?
03:04:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY QUESTION.
I WAS REACH TO MR. HEARNS.
IS THAT A MASTER PLAN AND WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, DO
THEY START DEMOLISHING THOSE AND SAY THIS IS SACRED GROUND?
03:04:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE LAST I SAW THAT WAS THE PLAN.
03:04:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT DOES THAT $8 MILLION ENTAIL.
03:05:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE CAN GET DIFFERENT BUCKETS.
03:05:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LAST I SAWM THEY WILL TAKE THOSE BUILDINGS
AND NOT BUILD ON IT.
03:05:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE ALL AGREE IF THAT IS THE PANEL WILL AND THE
PLAN THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
I WAS TOUCH BY EVERYBODY.
JARVIS, HE REALLY TOUCHED ME.
BUT, YEAH, I AM FUNDED, MAN, HOWEVER.
I DON'T CARE.
03:05:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
IS THAT PAUL?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:05:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WITH -- [ LAUGHTER ] --
03:05:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LOOK AT THE TROPHY I GOT.
03:05:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOREST HILLS TROPHY.
03:05:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT IS THE PICTURE?
03:05:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A PICTURE OF ALL OF US SINGING.
OUR ALBUM COVER.
THIS WILL BE THE COVER OF NEXT YEAR'S POSTER TO ENCOURAGE
ALL OF US TO GO.
03:05:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHO PRODUCED THAT?
03:05:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOREST HILLS
03:06:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHERE IS IT AVAILABLE?
03:06:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SING, GO TO LUIS
VIERA'S FACEBOOK.
HE HAD THE VIDEO UP AND OTHERS MAY HAVE IT UP AS WELL.
A REALLY FUN TIME.
03:06:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WASN'T ABOUT THE CONTEST.
03:06:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
BUT I WAS JUST SAYING TO PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CITY OUR
SIZE WHERE ALL OF US CAN GET TOGETHER AND BE -- AND DO
SOMETHING THAT QUITE FRANKLY WAS -- I MEAN, WE JUST -- I
MEAN -- IT WAS A FUN ACTIVITY.
AND IT WAS -- IT WAS SELF-DEPRECATING, BUT IT WAS OUT THERE
JUST TO HAVE FUN.
I WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT AND
ENJOY WORKING WITH EVERYONE.
BECAUSE IT IS JUST -- THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT MAKES
THIS FUN.
AND PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, FOREST HILLS, THEY ARE ALWAYS
OUT FOR A GREAT TIME.
A WONDERFUL SPACE.
IF YOU LIKE KARAOKE.
THEY DO IT THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT 6 P.M., DOES
IT BEGIN?
6 P.M. DON'T BE A STRANGER.
03:07:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT LOCATION IS THAT?
03:07:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE GOLF COURSE, THEIR CLUBHOUSE.
03:07:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
03:07:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FUN TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE
THAT SHOWED UP.
PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT ISSUES.
SHOWED UP TO SEE HOW FUNNY.
03:07:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HALF OF PUBLIC COMMENT WAS THERE.
03:07:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT MADE IT FUN.
03:07:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY SAW US IN DIFFERENT LIGHT.
NOT JUST SITTING UP HERE.
03:07:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY GOT TO SEE MY LEGS.
03:07:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SOMEBODY MADE THE COMMENT.
I NEVER SEEN YOU IN SHORTS.
WELL, IT WAS REALLY HOT BECAUSE IT WAS OUTSIDE.
IT WAS NICE.
UNDER FANS AND WONDERFUL AT TIMES.
I AM GOING TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I HAVE A VERY LONG MOTION.
FROM DIRECTOR FEELEY.
03:07:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD LORD.
03:07:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TALKED OF DOING THE CITY OF TAMPA WORKSHOP.
I MOVE TO REVISE THE AGENDA FOR THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
SCHEDULED FOR SETTLEMENT 25, 2025 AT 9 A.M. TO CENTER AROUND
LAND DEVELOPMENT AND PLAN REGULATED TOPICS ALLOWING US TO
FOCUS ON KEY MATTERS THAT HAVE UPDATES AND POTENTIAL
CLOSURE.
TO THAT END, I MOVE FOR THE FOLLOWING ADJUSTMENTS.
ITEM NUMBER ONE, RETAIN ITEM ONE, THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC
HERITAGE AS SCHEDULED GIVEN SHORT DURATION AND IMPORTANCE IN
RECOGNIZING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, DEFER ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE BIANNUAL CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT REPORT AND PRESENTATION TO A WORKSHOP IN
JANUARY OR FEBRUARY OF '26.
SINCE THE STRENGTHS ALREADY INCLUDED IN A FY '26 BUDGET
PROCESS AND NEW FISCAL YEAR BEGINS OCTOBER 1, 2025.
NEXT, COMBINE ITEM THREE -- EXCUSE ME, COMBINE ITEM THREE TO
ITEM FIVE AS THEY WILL ADDRESS PART OF THE BROADER JULY
CYCLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT APPLICATION.
THESE ITEMS ISSUE SHOULD BE PRESENTED UNDER ITEM FIVE.
NEXT, REMOVE ITEM THREE -- THIS IS THE ONE WE WEREN'T AGE TO
CONFIRM.
SEAWALL AND DOCK USAGE IN RESIDENTIAL USES AS THE MATTER
APPLES TO BE RESOLVED.
WE DON'T KNOW.
THAT HAS BEEN RESOLVED.
03:09:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LEAVE THAT ONE OUT RIGHT NOW.
I NEED TO TALK TO RON WIGGINTON.
03:09:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LEAVE THAT IN FOR RIGHT NOW?
03:09:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HE WILL SEE IF THAT POSSIBLE.
03:09:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ADD THE FOLLOWING PRESENTATION TO THE
SETTLEMENT 2025 AGENDA TO SUPPORT THE FOCUS.
TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE COASTAL ACTION PLAN.
WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT.
THE TAMPA HOPE REPORT PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED BY A MOTION BUT
NOT YET SCHEDULED.
AND THAT FOR THAT.
TAKE UP ITEM 6, DISCUSSION ON SENATE 180 AS FIRST ITEM OF
THE WORKSHOP.
GIVEN THE TIME SENSITIVE NATURE OF LAST BRIEF UPDATE ON THE
LIVE-LOCAL ACT PACED ONLY MODIFICATIONS.
THIS MOTION WILL STREAMLINE THE AGENDA, CLOSE OUT OPEN ITEMS
AND PROVIDE WITH SEVERAL CRITICAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
INITIATIVES.
03:10:21PM >> MY GOODNESS.
THIS IS ALL GOOD BUT MAKES MY HEAD HURT.
03:10:24PM >> ASK A QUICK QUESTION.
03:10:29PM >> WHEN YOU TALK OF COASTAL AREA ACTION RECOMMENDATIONS.
03:10:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK IT IS THE ACTUAL PANEL.
BEFORE THAT WAS SORT OF THE DRAFT PLAN.
THIS ONE APPARENTLY THE PLAN IS DONE.
03:10:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. SHELBY.
03:10:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU TALKED OF MOVED BIANNUAL REPORT TO
JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, BUT YOU DIDN'T GIVE SPECIFIC DIRECTION
TO THAT YET.
THAT IS HANGING OUT THERETO AS PART OF YOUR MOTION.
IT WILL FALL OFF -- IF YOUR MOTION IS TO REMOVE IT, IT WOULD
BE WISE IF YOU WANT TO PLACE IT SOME PLACE AS A PLACEHOLDER.
03:11:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL PUT IT SOMEWHERE IN HERE.
LUCAS HARRIS, I WILL CHANGE THAT TO THE JANUARY 29 WORKSHOP.
CLENDENIN WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION TO ADOPT THE AMENDED RESOLUTION.
ALL NOSE FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED, THE AYES HAVE IT.
OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:11:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
A COUPLE OF QUICK ONCE.
AND FUNNY BY WAY, SPEAKING OF KARAOKE.
I NEVER HAVE PLANNED SONGS BUT I WAS GOING TO SING "I AM A
ROCK" BY SIMON AND GARFUNKEL AND "TALK DIRTY TO ME."
03:12:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONLY REASON YOU DIDN'T WIN.
03:12:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CC PICKED UP THE GUITAR.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK DID A GREAT JOB.
03:12:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LIKE BEING AT A LYNN HURTAK CONCERT.
I SAT THERE WITH IS A SMILE ON MY FACE THE WHOLE TIME.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I SIT NEXT TO THIS WOMAN AND SHE SINGS
LIKE THIS.
CRAZY.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
SO BEAUTIFUL.
03:12:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FOREST HILLS, THEY ARE GREAT, GREAT PEOPLE
HERE.
WE STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
I WOULD GO THERE FOR KARAOKE, AND I INVITED GUIDO, TO COME
OUT AND WE HAD THIS LAME KARAOKE AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
CAME.
AND IT WAS COOL AND EVERYBODY COMES AND HANS GREAT TIME.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING AND
GOLD REST HER SOUL.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UNDERSTANDING THAT A PARK BENCH -- IF WE PUT A NAME ON A
PARK BENCH.
NOT A PROPERTY RENAMING, RIGHT?
THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT.
SO I -- I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
A YOUNG MAN, GABE, GOD REST HIS SOUL.
HE PASSED ON ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
AN EAGLE SCOUT.
HIS FAMILY HAVE VERY ACTIVE, AND I WORKED WITH HIS PARENTS.
WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PEOPLE
AND THEY DO A BLOOD DRIVE AT ATS MOSQUE AND DIFFERENT
THINGS.
I WANTED A PARK BENCH RENAMING.
NO MOTION YET, I WILL DO IT NEXT WEEK SO YOU CAN HAVE THE
FULL INFORMATION.
THAT IS IMPORTANT EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT -- AND THEN, I WILL
DO A MOTION FOR A WRITTEN REPORT ON THE STATUS
K-BAR RANCH TO TAMPA FIRE WITH THE RESPONSE TIMES.
03:13:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DIDN'T WE HAVE THAT?
03:13:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THEY ARE TELLING TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
IT IS GOING TO BE LIKE A LONG TIME.
I WANT TO -- WANT TO PUNT THAT ON OUR RADAR AND MAN IN
PERSON REPORT.
AND I WOULD HAVE THAT ON -- YEAH, IT WILL BE LIKE TWO YEARS
WHICH IS OBSCENE, I HEAR.
YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S DO IT -- LET'S -- SEPTEMBER 4.
AGAIN IT IS A WRITTEN REPORT, IF I MAY.
MIRANDA SECOND CLENDENIN A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA
AND IS SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:14:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AND AYES HAVE IT.
03:14:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVING ITS DISABILITY APPRENTICE WITH
RESULTS IN FIDUCIARY OVERSIGHT WITHIN THE HUMAN RESOURCES
SIMILAR TO THE COLLEGE INTERNSHIP.
CONTACT MISS WYNN.
IF I AM NOT MISSING SOMETHING, IT IS NOT A YES OR NO.
CONTINUE INTO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AUGUST
28 FOR A MOTION FOR A BETTER RESPONSE ON THIS.
03:15:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:15:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHEN I READ IT, IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WOULD
JUST PUT THERE.
I TREAD AS, OKAY, WE CAN JUST SLIDE IT ON IN THERE.
03:15:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL THREAD IT IN THE MOST OPTIMISTIC WAY,
AND I WILL MEET WITH MISS WYNN AND JUST COME FIRM.
03:15:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. VIERA, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU HAVE
TO TAKEUP AT A BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING AN THE TIME TO CONFIRM
THAT, AND I WILL TALK TO MR. VASKE.
AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE ACTION ON.
03:15:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO IN THE
REQUESTED BUDGET.
03:15:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK YOU ALREADY FUNDED IT.
03:15:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS THE MESSED UP THING.
FUNDED THROUGH SOCIAL ACTION WHATEVER, RIGHT.
AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATION TELLS US THAT YOU ARE CARPED AT
$100,000 FOR EACH PERSON.
THAT INCLUDES THE SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP.
THAT IS WHY AMONG A LOT OF THE REASONS I AM NOT,
BECAUSE THAT RULE IN EFFECT GETS RID OF THE FUNDING BUT THEN
THE QUESTION MAY BE ASKED, WHY FUND IT IF THEY ARE NOT GOING
TO HIRE INTERNS.
THAT IS THE US FROM REHABILITATION.
LAYERED SANDWICH OF FRUSTRATION.
03:16:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MEET WITH MISS COPESKY AND TO INFORM HER IN
ON THIS ISSUE.
03:16:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND MOTION, GRAHAM HAMPTON.
I REMEMBER GOING TO A CANDIDATE FORUM YEARS AGO.
03:16:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I FELT LIKE I WAS IN ATLANTA BY THE TIME
-- ITS EDGE OF PASCO COUNTY.
03:16:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS.
YOU HAVE PASCO COUNTY.
03:16:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO INTO PASCO TO GET INTO THERE.
03:16:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THEY HAVE A CHARTER SCHOOL BEING BUILT.
NORTH WOOD CHARTER SCHOOL BUILT UP NEXT YEAR.
AND A LOT OF CONCERN FROM HAMPTON RESIDENTS ON THE TRAFFIC
WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND THE NEED TO POTENTIALLY
HAVE AFTER TRAFFIC LIGHT AT 517 COUNTY LINE ROAD.
I ALREADY SENT INFORMATION TO GET IN TOUCH WITH LAURA MALLOY
AND CHRIS HAYNES AT GRAND HAMPTON WITH THE POTENTIAL OF A
LIGHT AT THIS LOCATION.
MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS CITY.
FOR THE CITY TO WORK WITH THE GOVERNMENT ENTITY PASCO,
HILLSBOROUGH, ALABAMA OR WHOEVER TO GET A LIGHT THERE.
THIS IS RELATIVELY EASY.
NOT TO GET THE LIGHT, BUT EFFORTS MADE TO REPORT BACK TO US.
AND I HAVE THIS COMING BACK TO US, PLEASE, ON -- SEPTEMBER
11 WRITTEN REPORT.
03:17:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
03:17:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
SEPTEMBER 11 IS A -- A CRA FOR THE DAY.
03:18:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SEPTEMBER 18.
03:18:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED
MOTION FOR THE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 18.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:18:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK GOD.
[LAUGHTER]
03:18:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE ALL GOT THREE YEARS OLDER.
03:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
EXACTLY.
03:18:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
EVERY TEN YEARS WITH THIS KIND OF TALK.
03:18:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT MY
FORM FOR NUMBER 33 TODAY.
03:18:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
AYES HAVE IT.
03:18:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE STATE THE KARAOKE CONTEST WAS
UNFAIR BECAUSE CHARLIE WAS TELLING TO MANY JOKES THAT I
COULDN'T SING.
I WAS LAUGH TOO WERE.
03:18:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS YOUR EXCUSE.
THAT IS A LIE, BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD CHARLIE MIRANDA TELL A
JOKE THAT I ACTUALLY LAUGHED AT.
[LAUGHTER]
03:19:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CHARLIE WAS MAKING ME LAUGH SO MUCH MY FACE
WAS SORE WHEN I LEFT.
03:19:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OH, MY WORD.
HE USES THE SAME MATERIAL ON ME.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, PLEASE.
CAN I GET RECOGNIZED?
03:19:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RECOGNIZE YOU, CHAIR.
03:19:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
YOU JUST REMINDED ME OF ONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR MOBILITY TO PROVIDE A
WRITTEN REPORT ON SEPTEMBER 18 ABOUT MOVING THE CROSSWALK
ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND TWO BREVARD AND SWANN.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THERE WAS A RUMOR OF PUTTING A TRAFFIC
LIGHT THERE, WHICH WILL BE CHAOTIC FOR THE TRAFFIC AT THAT
THE INTERSECTION.
03:19:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
03:19:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
YOU ARE UP.
03:19:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE TO SAY THIS.
CAN THIS BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ANSWERED IN A PHONE CALL.
YOU TRIED?
I GET IT.
MOTION BY CHAIR CLENDENIN.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
03:20:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
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