TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, AUGUST 7, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:05:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE
9:05:20AM RULES FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL?
9:05:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:05:25AM GOOD MORNING.
9:05:26AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:05:28AM THESE ARE THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR THE CONDUCT OF TODAY'S
9:05:34AM MEETING.
9:05:34AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
9:05:37AM AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
9:05:39AM THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON
9:05:43AM AN ITEM.
9:05:44AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
9:05:49AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:05:50AM NOW, IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK AT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT,
9:05:53AM WHICH BEGINS AFTER THE CEREMONIAL ITEMS THIS MORNING ON THE
9:05:56AM AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND PLACE IT IN THE
9:05:59AM BOX THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
9:06:00AM ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
9:06:02AM CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
9:06:06AM COMMENT.
9:06:07AM EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
9:06:09AM APPROACH AND SPEAK.
9:06:11AM NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
9:06:13AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
9:06:15AM NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, THOSE ARE
9:06:18AM MARKED ON THE AGENDA AS SUCH, PUBLIC HEARING.
9:06:21AM YOU DON'T USE THE SPEAKER CARD.
9:06:23AM YOU USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET BY THE PODIUM OUTSIDE INSTEAD.
9:06:26AM IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE THE CITY STAFF.
9:06:29AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
9:06:33AM THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
9:06:36AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:06:40AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:06:44AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:06:47AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
9:06:50AM COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:06:53AM NOW, PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY
9:06:57AM ALSO BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE
9:07:00AM CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF
9:07:04AM TODAY'S MEETING.
9:07:05AM NOW, PLEASE KNOW THAT IF IT IS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT
9:07:09AM IS LISTED AS A CONSENT ITEM OR FOR STAFF REPORTS, THE TIME
9:07:13AM TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS IS GOING TO BE AT THE START OF THE
9:07:16AM MEETING DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:07:17AM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
9:07:21AM SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE
9:07:24AM THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
9:07:27AM DIALOGUE WITH YOU DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:07:30AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:07:32AM THANK YOU.
9:07:35AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:07:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SIR, IN THE WHITE AND BLACK T-SHIRT
9:07:39AM AGAINST THE WALL, I RULE THAT YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
9:07:41AM I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS AND
9:07:43AM REVERSE YOUR T-SHIRT AND THEN YOU CAN REENTER THE CHAMBER.
9:07:46AM IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY, I'LL RULE YOUR
9:07:51AM BEHAVIOR OUT OF ORDER AND ASK TO YOU LEAVE THE CHAMBERS.
9:07:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
9:07:58AM ATTORNEY.
9:07:58AM HAVE YOU DONE ROLL CALL?
9:08:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLERK, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL?
9:08:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:08:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:08:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:08:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:08:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:08:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:08:10AM THANK YOU.
9:08:11AM SIR, I'M SORRY, ONCE AGAIN, I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO
9:08:15AM LEAVE THE CHAMBERS, REVERSE YOUR SHIRT AND THEN COME BACK
9:08:18AM IN.
9:08:19AM IF NOT, I'LL RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER.
9:08:22AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:08:22AM SIR, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
9:08:24AM PLEASE LEAVE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
9:08:25AM SIR, MAY I DIRECT THE OFFICER TO REMOVE THE GENTLEMAN FROM
9:08:34AM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS?
9:08:37AM THANK YOU.
9:08:37AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL A TEN-MINUTE RECESS.
9:08:41AM I ASK CITY STAFF, CLERK, ATTORNEY, CITY COUNCIL TO LEAVE THE
9:08:44AM CHAMBERS FOR TEN MINUTES, AND WE WILL RETURN AND RESUME
9:08:47AM OPERATIONS.
9:08:48AM I'M SORRY FOR THE FOLKS HERE WAITING FOR THIS.
9:08:50AM WE WILL SEE YOU ALL IN TEN MINUTES.
9:08:52AM THANK YOU.
9:08:53AM [RECESS]
9:19:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.
9:19:53AM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
9:19:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:19:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:19:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:19:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:19:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:19:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:20:00AM I WOULD LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA --
9:20:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:20:04AM IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THE GENTLEMAN DOING THE
9:20:06AM INVOCATION.
9:20:07AM LIEUTENANT COLONEL WILL ATKINS.
9:20:10AM RETIRED AIR FORCE LIEUTENANT COLONEL WHO SERVED 22 YEARS AS
9:20:13AM C 130 NAVIGATOR AND POLITICAL MILITARY ADVISOR, SIX
9:20:18AM DEPLOYMENTS TO IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
9:20:19AM TEACHING AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND NATIONAL SECURITY AT THE
9:20:22AM U.S. AIR FORCE ACADEMY, COLONEL ATKINS NOW LIVES IN NEW
9:20:27AM TAMPA WITH HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER AND REMAINS COMMITTED TO
9:20:29AM PUBLIC SERVICE.
9:20:30AM SERVES ON BOARD OF YMCA.
9:20:33AM CURRENTLY IN TRAINING TO SERVE AS A MENTOR FOR VETERANS
9:20:36AM TREATMENT COURT HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SUPPORTING
9:20:38AM FELLOW VETERANS AND THEIR PATH TO HEALING.
9:20:44AM HE WILL DO THE PLEDGE.
9:20:47AM REMAIN STANDING.
9:20:53AM >> LET US BOW OUR HEADS.
9:20:55AM GOD, WE GATHER TODAY IN SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
9:20:59AM A CITY RICH IN CULTURE, FULL OF PROMISE AND DRIVEN BY THE
9:21:03AM SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY.
9:21:04AM GRANT THIS COUNCIL WISDOM IN ITS DELIBERATIONS, COMPASSION
9:21:09AM IN ITS DECISIONS AND THE COURAGE TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY AND
9:21:11AM PURPOSE.
9:21:12AM MAY EACH CHOICE MADE HERE SERVE THE GREATER GOOD OF EVERY
9:21:16AM NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERY VOICE, AND EVERY FAMILY.
9:21:19AM LORD, SINCE WE KNOW THAT ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE THROUGH
9:21:21AM YOU, PERHAPS YOU COULD SEND A LITTLE LOVE TO THE TAMPA BAY
9:21:24AM RAYS.
9:21:25AM BLESS THIS CITY, OUR LEADERS, AND ALL WHO CALL IT HOME.
9:21:28AM AMEN.
9:21:30AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:21:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW ABOUT A LITTLE LOVE FOR THE
9:21:49AM BUCCANEERS.
9:21:49AM THEIR FIRST PRESEASON GAME THIS SATURDAY NIGHT.
9:21:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT CUT.
9:21:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH.
9:21:57AM MY BONES AREN'T UP FOR THAT THESE DAYS.
9:22:00AM ARE WE ONLINE?
9:22:04AM WE'RE NOT SEEING IT ON THE MONITORS.
9:22:07AM THE OVERHEAD DISPLAYS, CAN YOU ALL -- CCTV, THE OVERHEAD
9:22:18AM DISPLAYS IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, IF YOU COULD GET THE LIVE
9:22:21AM STREAM UP THERE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
9:22:23AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:22:23AM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MINUTES
9:22:26AM FROM THE REGULAR SESSION HELD JULY 31st, 2025.
9:22:29AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:22:30AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:22:31AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:22:34AM SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
9:22:35AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
9:22:36AM OPPOSED?
9:22:37AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:22:38AM AGENDA REVIEW, PLEASE.
9:22:40AM WE'VE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS.
9:22:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DIDN'T SEND A MEMO ON THIS.
9:22:46AM I HAVE AN EVENT IN PLANT CITY FOR AN ORGANIZATION.
9:22:49AM I'VE SERVED ON THE BOARD OVER 15 YEARS.
9:22:51AM I'LL PROBABLY NEED TO LEAVE AROUND 11:25.
9:22:55AM JUST FYI.
9:22:56AM THERE MAY BE ITEMS.
9:22:58AM I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE.
9:23:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WILL BE GONE FOR THE REST OF THE DAY?
9:23:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, I'LL BE BACK.
9:23:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE ITEM, CHIEF BENNETT WOULD LIKE TO DO
9:23:06AM THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE
9:23:09AM COMMENDATIONS TO ATU.
9:23:12AM UNANIMOUS CONSENT?
9:23:12AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:23:13AM I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 15.
9:23:25AM THERE WAS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
9:23:27AM MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
9:23:29AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
9:23:29AM OPPOSED?
9:23:30AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:23:31AM THANK YOU.
9:23:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALREADY SENT A MEMO TO PULL ITEM 20.
9:23:42AM I WANT THAT HEARD FIRST ON STAFF REPORTS.
9:23:44AM I DO WANT STAFF.
9:23:46AM FIRE AND LAM AND PREFERABLY CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:23:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN HURTAK,
9:23:56AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:23:57AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:23:59AM OPPOSED?
9:23:59AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:24:00AM I THINK THAT IS -- CAN WE CONTINUE AN ITEM THAT WAS IN
9:24:10AM PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME?
9:24:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PUBLIC HEARING, NO.
9:24:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DIDN'T THINK SO.
9:24:15AM MAKING SURE.
9:24:15AM STAFF REPORTS.
9:24:16AM ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
9:24:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES ON 52.
9:24:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 52, YES.
9:24:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAFF ON 52?
9:24:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
9:24:27AM 53.
9:24:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, YES.
9:24:32AM I WOULD REQUEST OBVIOUSLY THAT I BE HERE FOR THIS ONE ON
9:24:35AM RETURNING CITIZENS AND THE OFFICE OF AND OBVIOUSLY AN
9:24:38AM IN-PERSON REPORT, IF I MAY.
9:24:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VIERA NEEDS TO BE THERE.
9:24:42AM OKAY.
9:24:42AM 54.
9:24:43AM >> YES.
9:24:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 55?
9:24:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO SEPTEMBER 25, 2025.
9:24:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET ME JUST SPEAK QUICKLY ON THIS BECAUSE
9:24:53AM THIS IS MY MOTION.
9:24:54AM THE REASON WE'RE CONTINUING IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME
9:24:58AM ISSUES WITH SB 180.
9:25:00AM WE'RE KIND OF TIEING IT INTO THE WORKSHOP WE ALREADY AGREED
9:25:03AM TO DO ON SB 180.
9:25:05AM THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
9:25:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM
9:25:09AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:25:10AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:25:11AM OPPOSED?
9:25:11AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:25:13AM ITEM 56, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:25:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE THAT IN PERSON.
9:25:18AM I SPOKE TO MS. McKENZIE ON IT YESTERDAY.
9:25:22AM I WOULD REQUEST TO BE HERE FOR THAT.
9:25:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM NUMBER 57.
9:25:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:25:27AM AND GOES WITH 58.
9:25:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 58 IS A YES AS WELL.
9:25:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEM 59 TO BE CONTINUED.
9:25:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED TO DO 58 BEFORE 57, FYI.
9:25:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:25:39AM MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 59 TO SEPTEMBER 4th.
9:25:47AM THERE IS NO UPDATE BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF
9:25:51AM WRITING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
9:25:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:25:54AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
9:25:55AM OPPOSED?
9:25:55AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:25:56AM 60, MOTION TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 23.
9:25:59AM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:26:00AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:26:01AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:26:03AM OPPOSED?
9:26:03AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:26:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 61 THROUGH 65.
9:26:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEMS
9:26:13AM 61 THROUGH 65.
9:26:14AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:26:16AM OPPOSED?
9:26:16AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:26:18AM THAT I BELIEVE IS FINISHED ON THE AGENDA REVIEW.
9:26:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:26:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FROM
9:26:31AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:26:32AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:26:33AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:26:34AM OPPOSED?
9:26:35AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, PLEASE.
9:26:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN.
9:26:53AM WE'RE HERE FOR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:26:55AM I WILL LET CHIEF BERCAW TALK ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL, WHOEVER
9:26:58AM HE OR SHE MAY BE.
9:27:00AM IT IS A UNIQUE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:27:02AM WE ALWAYS DO THIS TO REFLECT THE VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY WE
9:27:05AM SERVE THAT ALWAYS SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, INCLUDING
9:27:08AM POLICE OFFICERS AND COPS.
9:27:10AM CHIEF.
9:27:13AM >>CHIEF BERCAW: CHIEF BERCAW.
9:27:15AM HONOR TO BE HERE TO PRESENT OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:27:17AM TODAY, WE ARE RECOGNIZING OFFICER CURTIS BRILES AS TAMPA
9:27:21AM POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025.
9:27:24AM SINCE HE IS STILL IN HIS UNDERCOVER ROLE AND OPERATIONS ARE
9:27:28AM STILL ONGOING, HERE TO ACCEPT ON HIS BEHALF IS SERGEANT MATT
9:27:33AM ZELANSKY.
9:27:35AM EARLIER THIS YEAR AS PART OF EFFORTS TO ADDRESS DRUG
9:27:38AM ACTIVITY IN KEY AREAS OF THE CITY, OFFICER BRILES
9:27:42AM VOLUNTEERED FOR ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING ROLES IN THE
9:27:45AM OPERATION BY CONDUCTING UNDERCOVER NARCOTIC BUYS.
9:27:49AM THIS HIGH-RISK ASSIGNMENT REQUIRED EXCEPTIONAL COURAGE,
9:27:54AM VIGILANCE AND QUICK JUDGMENT.
9:27:55AM FROM FEBRUARY THROUGH APRIL OF THIS YEAR, OFFICER BRILES
9:27:59AM SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED MORE THAN 45 NARCOTIC PURCHASES FROM
9:28:03AM 29 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
9:28:04AM THESE EFFORTS RESULTED IN WARRANTS AND ARRESTS FOR EACH OF
9:28:08AM THEM.
9:28:10AM MANY OF THESE OFFENSES OCCURRED NEAR SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, AND
9:28:14AM OTHER PROTECTED LOCATIONS.
9:28:16AM THE INDIVIDUALS HE TARGETED WERE NOT MINOR OFFENDERS.
9:28:20AM 19 OF THEM HAD PREVIOUSLY SERVED TIME IN THE FLORIDA STATE
9:28:23AM PRISON TOTALING OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OF INCARCERATION FOR
9:28:28AM SERIOUS CRIMES, INCLUDING DRUG TRAFFICKING, ARMED ROBBERY,
9:28:32AM FIREARM VIOLATIONS AND AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS.
9:28:34AM SEVERAL WERE ALSO SERVING ACTIVE PROBATION OR COMMUNITY
9:28:38AM CONTROL AT OUR TIME.
9:28:41AM OFFICER BRILES WORK -- HIS EFFORTS CONTRIBUTED DIRECTLY TO
9:28:45AM IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY AND REMOVING DANGEROUS REPEAT
9:28:49AM OFFENDERS FROM OUR STREETS.
9:28:50AM HIS ACTIONS REFLECT THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF
9:28:54AM PROFESSIONALISM, DEDICATION, AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
9:28:57AM FOR SOMEBODY TO DO THIS, PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE TO MAKE
9:29:02AM THE COMMUNITY SAFER AND TAKE DANGEROUS FELONS OFF THE
9:29:05AM STREET, WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE OFFICER CURTIS BRILES AS
9:29:08AM OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025.
9:29:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE, STARTING WITH THE
9:29:17AM PBA, TO HONOR THIS OFFICER WHO IS HERE IN SPIRIT.
9:29:22AM >> BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
9:29:25AM WE WANT TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE TO THE OFFICER FOR A JOB WELL
9:29:27AM DONE.
9:29:29AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:38AM >> [INAUDIBLE] HE'S MAKING US SAFER.
9:29:44AM THANK YOU.
9:29:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE MICROPHONE IS INSIDE
9:29:50AM THE PODIUM.
9:29:51AM IF YOU CAN FACE THE PODIUM.
9:29:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:29:54AM I'M GRACE GONZALEZ.
9:29:55AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF
9:29:59AM RESTAURANTS.
9:29:59AM PLEASE THANK YOUR TEAM.
9:30:01AM THANK OFFICER BRILES FOR US.
9:30:02AM THIS IS A GIFT CARD FOR HIM TO ENJOY A NIGHT WITH HIS
9:30:06AM FAMILY, FLAMENCO SHOW, ULELE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT
9:30:11AM AND HIS COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY.
9:30:16AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
9:30:16AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:30:20AM MY NAME IS LORI OSBORNE.
9:30:22AM I'M WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
9:30:24AM ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE'D LIKE TO THANK BOTH
9:30:29AM YOU AND OFFICER BRILES FOR HIS HEROISM AND KEEPING OUR CITY
9:30:34AM SAFER.
9:30:36AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:30:37AM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE HE AND HIS FAMILY TO AN UPCOMING
9:30:41AM PERFORMANCE FOR THE ORCHESTRA DURING OUR SEASON.
9:30:43AM PLEASE GIVE THAT TO HIM AND THANK YOU AGAIN.
9:30:46AM >> THANK YOU AGAIN, MA'AM.
9:30:47AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:30:50AM MARY DILLON FROM STRAZ CENTER.
9:30:53AM THANK YOU FOR NOMINATING THE OFFICER ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ
9:31:00AM CENTER, TICKETS TO AN UPCOMING PERFORMANCE.
9:31:04AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:31:06AM CONVEY OUR CONGRATULATIONS.
9:31:07AM >> I WILL.
9:31:08AM THANK YOU.
9:31:08AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:11AM >> HI.
9:31:12AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ZOO TODAY.
9:31:14AM I'M NOT NEW ON THE BOARD.
9:31:16AM AND THIS IS FOR THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:31:18AM THIS IS A YEAR MEMBERSHIP FOR THE OFFICER AND OFFICER'S
9:31:24AM FAMILY.
9:31:25AM AND THE ANIMAL IS THE FLORIDA PANTHER BECAUSE THEY ARE
9:31:30AM STEALTHY.
9:31:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:31:36AM LEO GEARY WITH BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:31:40AM CURTIS, CONGRATULATIONS.
9:31:43AM JUST LET HIM KNOW WE SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM BILL CURRIE
9:31:47AM FORD.
9:31:48AM I'VE MET HIM MULTIPLE TIMES, SO I KNOW WHO HE IS.
9:31:51AM THIS IS A HANDWRITTEN LETTER FROM JENNIFER CURRY HERSELF
9:31:55AM WITH A GIFT CARD.
9:31:57AM FULL FREE MAINTENANCE ON HIS PERSONAL VEHICLE CERTIFICATE.
9:32:00AM OTHER GOODIES.
9:32:02AM LIKE I SAY EVERY TIME I'M UP HERE --
9:32:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMEMBER, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
9:32:07AM >> WE RESPECT AND APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS THAT PUTS
9:32:10AM ON THE UNIFORM EVERY SINGLE DAY.
9:32:12AM IT'S TRULY AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE HERE EVERY SINGLE MONTH TO
9:32:15AM DO THIS.
9:32:17AM >> THANK YOU.
9:32:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW IT'S AWKWARD TO FACE FORWARD WHEN
9:32:20AM ADDRESSING PEOPLE IN THE BACK, BUT THEY CAN HEAR WHEN IT IS
9:32:23AM BOOMING OUT IF YOU FACE FORWARD.
9:32:25AM MR. FORD.
9:32:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:32:26AM I LEFT SOMETHING UP THERE.
9:32:33AM THANK YOU.
9:32:33AM IT IS OUR 50th SEASON.
9:32:36AM GOOD MORNING, CHIEF.
9:32:38AM ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY, YOU KNOW THE TRADITION WE
9:32:42AM HAVE.
9:32:42AM YOU'VE BEEN PART OF THAT.
9:32:43AM ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
9:32:46AM YOUR PARTNER, HEARING HIS STORY AND WHAT YOU GUYS DO EACH
9:32:49AM AND EVERY DAY TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, THE SACRIFICE THAT
9:32:53AM YOUR FAMILY, UNPARALLELED.
9:32:56AM IF ANYBODY DESERVES A GAME BALL, IT IS YOU AND YOUR PARTNER.
9:33:00AM PLEASE PASS THAT ALONG.
9:33:02AM ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
9:33:05AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
9:33:06AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:33:07AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:11AM >> MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
9:33:16AM WE WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE OFFICER BRILES WITH A GIFT
9:33:19AM CARD AND HAVE DINNER OUT, A NIGHT OUT ON STEPP'S TOWING.
9:33:26AM LET HIM KNOW WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HE DOES FOR THE CITY.
9:33:29AM THANK YOU.
9:33:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:33:32AM CITY STAFF.
9:33:34AM MARYBETH WILLIAMS.
9:33:36AM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK.
9:33:37AM WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO OFFICER BRILES
9:33:40AM AND PRESENT HIM WITH A PERSONALIZED GRANITE PAVER ALONG THE
9:33:46AM TAMPA RIVERWALK.
9:33:48AM SHOULD BE READY 30, 60 DAYS.
9:33:50AM WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT IS READY.
9:33:52AM IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS FROM SOME OF OUR BOARD
9:33:55AM MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS.
9:33:56AM GIFT CERTIFICATE TO FLORIDA AVENUE BREWING.
9:33:59AM GIFT CERTIFICATE TO AN ADULT PARTY AT SPLITSVILLE, TWO
9:34:05AM DINNER FOR TWO YACHT STAR SHIP.
9:34:07AM PIRATE WATER TAXI TWO ALL DAY PASSES.
9:34:10AM LOST PEARL, TWO COMPLIMENTARY ENTRANCES.
9:34:16AM AGAIN.
9:34:17AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:34:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:22AM >> STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF FOLKS WHO
9:34:25AM WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THE OFFICER.
9:34:29AM I CAN TELL YOU THESE ARE NO NONSENSE FOLKS.
9:34:34AM I'VE SEEN THEM IN ACTION.
9:34:35AM I GREATLY APPRECIATE AND SURE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES WHAT THEY
9:34:40AM DO TO KEEP US SAFE.
9:34:42AM BEHALF OF THE BUSINESSES, MEAT MARKET OLD HYDE PARK,
9:34:45AM PROVIDING A GIFT CERTIFICATE.
9:34:48AM JACKSON BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
9:34:50AM CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP UP AND DOWN HOWARD, TAKE YOUR PICK.
9:34:56AM YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO.
9:34:59AM WE GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT'S BEING DONE FOR OUR
9:35:01AM COMMUNITY.
9:35:02AM GET THE BAD BOYS OFF THE STREET.
9:35:04AM THANKS.
9:35:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD TO SEE YOU, STEVE MICHELINI.
9:35:08AM GLAD YOU ARE OUT AND ABOUT.
9:35:10AM GOOD TO SEE YOU.
9:35:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, WE ALWAYS END WITH THE RED TIE.
9:35:20AM HONOR YOUR COLLEAGUE WHO YOU ARE HERE FOR, FOR ALL OF HIS
9:35:24AM HARD WORK, DETERMINATION AND COURAGE.
9:35:30AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:35:30AM A MAN OF HUMILITY.
9:35:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FIRST.
9:35:40AM >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING A JOB EVERY DAY IN AND
9:35:43AM OUT FOR THE OFFICER RISKING HIS LIFE, HE OR SHE.
9:35:48AM OVER A THOUSAND OFFICERS, HUNDREDTH OF A SECOND TO MAKE A
9:35:51AM DECISION.
9:35:52AM I CAN IMAGINE THE POSITION WHAT THIS OFFICER IS IN.
9:35:55AM GOES OUT, FINDS THEM, LOCATES THEM AND THEN MAKES A BUY.
9:35:59AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD.
9:36:02AM MORE DRUG DEALERS BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE DRUG USERS.
9:36:05AM NO DRUG USERS, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY DRUG DEALERS OR SAY IT
9:36:09AM THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
9:36:11AM IT IS A TWO-WAY STREET.
9:36:12AM THANK THE OFFICER, THE WHOLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CHIEF,
9:36:15AM SECOND IN COMMAND, LOOKING AT HER, THANK YOU FOR THE JOB YOU
9:36:18AM DO, WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED, YOU HAVE TAKEN THIS
9:36:21AM RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP THE CITIZENS OF WHATEVER CITY YOU
9:36:25AM SERVE.
9:36:26AM GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.
9:36:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS TO THE OFFICER, YOUR
9:36:29AM COLLEAGUE, FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
9:36:34AM WE APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICE AND WHAT THIS OFFICER IS DOING
9:36:37AM AND THE COMMUNITY HAS DONE AND CONTINUES TO DO.
9:36:39AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:36:40AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:36:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, CITY
9:36:43AM COUNCIL SUPPORTS YOU AND YOUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS THAT WEAR
9:36:48AM THE BADGE.
9:36:48AM WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF
9:36:51AM TAMPA.
9:36:52AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:36:53AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:36:53AM BRIEF PAUSE TO LET THE FOLKS LEAVE.
9:37:02AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:37:19AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:37:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:37:55AM I AM HERE FOR THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
9:37:58AM VERY EXCITED.
9:38:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FACE THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
9:38:04AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:38:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST WAITING FOR EVERYBODY TO COME ON UP.
9:38:09AM WHO IS TAKING THE LEAD TODAY?
9:38:38AM OKAY.
9:38:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:38:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, MR. PRESIDENT.
9:38:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:38:45AM AND GOOD MORNING CITY OF TAMPA.
9:38:47AM I'M STEVE SIMON.
9:38:49AM I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION LOCAL
9:38:55AM 1464.
9:38:56AM WE KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
9:38:58AM I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE
9:39:00AM ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MS. APRIL GRANT.
9:39:05AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:05AM APRIL IS A CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE WITHIN THE WATER
9:39:12AM DEPARTMENT, AND HAS BEEN AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO HER TEAM.
9:39:17AM HER CONSISTENT WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT BOTH HER IMMEDIATE
9:39:20AM TEAM MEMBERS AND COLLEAGUES ACROSS DEPARTMENTS HAS MADE A
9:39:24AM SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR OPERATIONS.
9:39:26AM SHE APPROACHES EACH CHALLENGE WITH A STRONG EAGERNESS TO
9:39:31AM LEARN AND PROACTIVE ATTITUDE IN APPLYING NEWLY ACQUIRED
9:39:35AM KNOWLEDGE TO ENHANCE WORK FLOWS.
9:39:37AM APRIL HAS DEMONSTRATED A STRONG COMMITMENT TO COLLABORATION
9:39:40AM AND PROBLEM SOLVING.
9:39:42AM SHE FREQUENTLY GOES THE EXTRA MILE TO HELP UNCOVER AND
9:39:45AM ADDRESS THE MISSING PIECES NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD.
9:39:48AM HER EFFORTS HAVE MADE HER A RELIABLE AND RESPECTED RESOURCE
9:39:52AM THROUGHOUT THE OPERATION.
9:39:55AM NOTABLY, APRIL PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN CLEANING AND VETTING
9:39:58AM RECORDS AND STREAMLINING THE CHAMBER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM
9:40:03AM SCHEDULING PROCESS, EFFORTS THAT HELPED US REACH OUR ANNUAL
9:40:07AM GOALS.
9:40:07AM HER DEDICATION CONTINUES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY AND
9:40:11AM STRENGTHEN TEAMWORK ACROSS ALL LEVELS OF THE OPERATION.
9:40:15AM AND WE THANK YOU, APRIL.
9:40:17AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION IN DOING WHAT YOU DO TO
9:40:20AM KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
9:40:22AM SO, THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF ATU LOCAL 1464, I WOULD LIKE TO
9:40:27AM PRESENT YOU WITH THIS AWARD.
9:40:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:33AM I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
9:40:42AM I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO WATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OF
9:40:45AM OPERATIONS, ELIE FRANCO, TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
9:40:50AM >> THANK YOU, STEVEN.
9:40:52AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:40:53AM WHEN I THINK OF APRIL, THE WORD THAT COMES TO MIND IS
9:41:02AM SPONGE.
9:41:03AM SOMEONE THAT IS ALWAYS NOT ONLY FOCUSED ON THE TASK AT HAND,
9:41:09AM BUT WHAT'S NEXT.
9:41:11AM WHAT ELSE CAN I LEARN?
9:41:13AM HOW ELSE CAN I CONTRIBUTE?
9:41:14AM SHE JOINED THE WATER TEAM ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
9:41:18AM STARTED OUT IN THE CALL CENTER.
9:41:20AM THAT'S NOT AN EASY ASSIGNMENT TO BREAK INTO THE BIZ, BUT SHE
9:41:24AM HANDLED IT VERY WELL.
9:41:26AM AN OPPORTUNITY CAME UP WITHIN THE LAST YEAR TO MOVE INTO THE
9:41:29AM OPERATIONS SIDE OF OUR BUSINESS.
9:41:31AM SHE MOVED OVER THERE AND BROUGHT THE SAME SPIRIT OF I WANT
9:41:35AM TO LEARN AND I WANT TO LEARN MORE.
9:41:38AM SO ON BEHALF OF RORY JONES, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR WHO
9:41:42AM COULD NOT BE HERE THIS MORNING, BUT WHO HANDPICKED
9:41:46AM EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THIS BAG, AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE
9:41:48AM WATER TEAM, CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING NOMINATED AND SELECTED
9:41:52AM AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
9:41:55AM >> THANK YOU.
9:41:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:42:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOW WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO
9:42:05AM WOULD LIKE TO HONOR YOU WITH SOME THINGS.
9:42:08AM I'M THE ZOO TODAY, TOO.
9:42:12AM I'M DOUBLE DUTY.
9:42:13AM SO THIS IS FOR YOU FOR THE ZOO.
9:42:16AM THIS IS SIX PASSES TO ENJOY THE DAY AT THE ZOO AND YOUR
9:42:20AM ANIMAL IS A MANATEE, OF COURSE.
9:42:23AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:42:34AM >> MARY DILLON FROM THE STRAZ CENTER.
9:42:37AM CONGRATULATIONS, MS. GRANT, ON YOUR AWARD.
9:42:41AM THIS IS MY BUSINESS CARD.
9:42:42AM I WILL BE SENDING YOU TICKETS VERY SHORTLY, WORKING THROUGH
9:42:46AM KELLY SCHARF FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S OFFICE.
9:42:51AM YOU'LL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS FOR UPCOMING PERFORMANCE ON
9:42:55AM BEHALF OF THE STRAZ.
9:42:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:42:57AM >> THANK YOU.
9:42:57AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:03AM >> MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING.
9:43:06AM BRIAN FORD, APOLOGIZED HE HAD TO LEAVE.
9:43:09AM TRAINING CAMP WAS CALLING.
9:43:10AM YOU RECEIVED TODAY'S GAME BALL.
9:43:14AM CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
9:43:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:17AM AND ALSO, ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP, WE FIND IT VERY FITTING
9:43:23AM TO GET A GO LOCAL TAMPA GIFT CARD FOR YOU.
9:43:28AM ENJOY IT.
9:43:28AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:43:31AM >> THANK YOU.
9:43:31AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, APRIL.
9:43:40AM CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ACHIEVEMENT.
9:43:42AM THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THE WATER GOING AND KEEPING TAMPA
9:43:44AM RUNNING.
9:43:44AM I'M LORI OSBORNE.
9:43:46AM I AM WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
9:43:47AM ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE
9:43:50AM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO AN UPCOMING PERFORMANCE IN OUR NEW
9:43:54AM SEASON.
9:43:54AM THEY ARE HERE, AND WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:43:56AM I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.
9:44:00AM >> THANK YOU.
9:44:01AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:44:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
9:44:05AM GOOD MORNING, MS. APRIL.
9:44:07AM GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
9:44:10AM 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
9:44:12AM WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN TAMPA AND COMMITTING
9:44:14AM YOURSELF TO HELPING US HERE THRIVE AS A CITY.
9:44:18AM WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO ENJOY YOURSELF AT ANY OF OUR
9:44:20AM RESTAURANTS ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
9:44:21AM PLEASE HAVE A NIGHT OFF AND ENJOY YOURSELF.
9:44:23AM THANK YOU AGAIN AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:44:25AM >> THANK YOU.
9:44:26AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:44:33AM >> DO YOU HAVE AN ASSISTANT HELPING YOU LOAD YOUR GIFTS?
9:44:36AM >> YES.
9:44:39AM >> LYNN, YOU HAVE TO COME UP HERE.
9:44:41AM NOT QUITE IN THE PICTURE.
9:44:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHO IS THE POLITICIAN?
9:44:44AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:44:46AM >> LYNN.
9:44:47AM STEVE MICHELINI.
9:44:49AM HERE ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FOLKS.
9:44:52AM WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO JACKSON'S
9:44:55AM BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
9:44:57AM GIFT CERTIFICATE TO CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP ON SOUTH
9:45:00AM HOWARD.
9:45:01AM THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO AND THE MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE
9:45:06AM PARK.
9:45:06AM SOME OF THESE CERTIFICATES I'LL HAVE TO GET TO YOU.
9:45:09AM BEEN A LITTLE PREOCCUPIED THE LAST FEW DAYS.
9:45:13AM ANYWAY, THERE IS A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR YOU.
9:45:15AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:45:16AM THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SAFETY.
9:45:18AM I WOULD THINK THAT WATER IS RIGHT UP THERE.
9:45:20AM I HAD A CALL YESTERDAY ABOUT SOME WATER ISSUES AND THEY GOT
9:45:24AM RIGHT ON IT WITH RORY JONES AND TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT.
9:45:27AM WE APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING US HEALTHY.
9:45:30AM THANK YOU.
9:45:32AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:45:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND FROM A GRATEFUL CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE
9:45:39AM PRESENTING YOU WITH THIS COMMENDATION.
9:45:42AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
9:45:47AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:45:52AM >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE HONOR TO GUARD, FIRST OF ALL.
9:45:57AM AND MY TEAM THAT HELPED MOVE ME.
9:46:00AM IT'S LIKE A PUZZLE.
9:46:01AM EVERYBODY PLAYS A PART.
9:46:03AM IF IT WASN'T FOR MY TEAM, I WOULDN'T BE WHO I AM BECAUSE
9:46:09AM THEY ARE ALWAYS THERE HELPING ME AND THERE FOR ME.
9:46:11AM MY SUPERVISORS AND DIRECTORS, IF I NEED SOMETHING, CAN I
9:46:14AM ALWAYS GO TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND THERE'S NO ISSUE.
9:46:17AM HAVING A GREAT TEAM HELPED MOTIVATE ME TO BE A BETTER PERSON
9:46:22AM AND BETTER PERSON FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
9:46:23AM I JUST ENJOY WORKING FOR THE CITY AND KEEPING IT GOING WELL.
9:46:26AM I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
9:46:29AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:46:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:46:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, APRIL.
9:46:35AM WE AS CITIZENS AND AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE TURN ON THE
9:46:39AM WATER, IT'S FOR GRANTED IT'S THERE.
9:46:42AM DAY IN AND DAY OUT, 365 DAYS A YEAR FOR MANY YEARS.
9:46:47AM THE WATER QUALITY IS THERE.
9:46:49AM THE CLEARNESS IS THERE AND THE PRICE IS RIGHT.
9:46:51AM THAT'S ALL TV SHOWS.
9:46:53AM SO WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS MAKES THE CITY OF TAMPA NOT
9:46:59AM RUN BUT STAY IN PLACE AND PRODUCE THE QUALITY, THE QUANTITY
9:47:05AM WITHIN THE 85 MILLION -- THANK YOU AND THE STAFF MEMBERS
9:47:11AM THAT WORK WITH YOU.
9:47:11AM THE DIRECTOR OF WATER.
9:47:13AM THE SUPER DEPARTMENT HEADS.
9:47:15AM EVERYBODY, INCLUDING MR. FRANCO, ALL OF YOU.
9:47:18AM AND THE ATU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF YOU LIKE THEY ARE.
9:47:21AM CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING THE EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR.
9:47:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:47:30AM YOU HAVE A REALLY WONDERFUL DEPARTMENT.
9:47:32AM I GET A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK.
9:47:35AM THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
9:47:36AM YOU HAVE A GREAT DEPARTMENT HEAD AND A WONDERFUL TEAM.
9:47:39AM EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE, AND YOU ARE VERY SPECIAL AND INTEGRAL
9:47:43AM PART OF THAT, AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW, THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN
9:47:47AM OF OUR APPRECIATION, BUT WHAT YOU DO DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED.
9:47:51AM AGAIN, I GET A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK IN MY OFFICE FOR THE
9:47:54AM LEVEL OF SERVICE AND QUALITY, SO PEOPLE DO GREAT WORK.
9:47:59AM YOU MAKE US PROUD EVERY DAY AND THIS IS WELL DESERVED.
9:48:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE OFFICER,
9:48:05AM WE HAVE A RULE THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY ANYTHING IN
9:48:08AM THESE SECTIONS, SO WE TRY NOT TO.
9:48:10AM SINCE EVERYBODY ELSE IS WEIGHING IN, I'LL WEIGH IN AND THANK
9:48:17AM THE OFFICER BEFORE, TOO.
9:48:18AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO IN THE DEPARTMENT AS MY COLLEAGUE
9:48:22AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID.
9:48:23AM I GET A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ON THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
9:48:29AM YOU ARE PROACTIVE AND WORK WITH PEOPLE.
9:48:31AM IT'S OUTSTANDING SERVICE.
9:48:33AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM, COME FROM RORY?
9:48:36AM COME FROM THE OTHER MANAGERS?
9:48:37AM I ALSO NEVER HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS DEPARTMENT.
9:48:40AM WHATEVER YOU ALL ARE DOING, PLEASE KEEP IT UP.
9:48:43AM PLEASE KEEP UP THE GREAT SERVICE BECAUSE THE CONSTITUENTS
9:48:45AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:48:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEHALF OF TAMPA
9:48:51AM CITY COUNCIL.
9:48:51AM YOU REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT AND ATU VERY WELL.
9:48:55AM THANK YOU.
9:48:56AM HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
9:48:56AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHERE ARE ALL MY FRIENDS FROM THE CHURCH
9:49:23AM THAT WERE ON THE BUS IN THE PARKING LOT?
9:49:26AM GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
9:49:30AM CHIEF BENNETT.
9:49:41AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:49:43AM GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC.
9:49:44AM I JUST WANTED TO SEIZE THE MOMENT AND THANK COUNCIL FOR
9:49:49AM MOVING UP THE SHORT ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
9:49:51AM IT WAS RELEVANT BECAUSE I HAD TWO UNION PRESIDENTS HERE,
9:49:54AM BOTH STEVE SIMON AND BRANDON BARCLAY FROM THE ATU AND PBA.
9:49:58AM JUST A LITTLE FORECASTING FOR COUNCIL, SINCE THE BEGINNING
9:50:01AM OF APRIL THIS YEAR, ALL THE WAY TO JUST YESTERDAY, WE HAD
9:50:05AM BEEN NEGOTIATING AND THEN YESTERDAY WAS THE FINAL
9:50:08AM RATIFICATION FOR THREE OF OUR FOUR BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.
9:50:13AM YESTERDAY, THE PBA RATIFIED BOTH THE LIEUTENANTS AND OFFICER
9:50:17AM THROUGH SERGEANT AGREEMENT AND ATU RATIFIED THEIRS JUST
9:50:21AM RECENTLY BEFORE THAT.
9:50:22AM SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK BOTH UNIONS FOR THEIR
9:50:25AM PROFESSIONALISM DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS AND ANNOUNCE TO
9:50:28AM COUNCIL THAT OF THE THREE OF THE FOUR BARGAINING AGREEMENTS
9:50:31AM THAT HAVE NOW BEEN RATIFIED, WE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO YOUR
9:50:34AM OFFICES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY CONVERSATION WITH THE STAFF
9:50:37AM AND, OF COURSE, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS WELCOME TO TALK TO
9:50:40AM THE UNIONS.
9:50:40AM WE NEGOTIATED IN FRONT OF HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES IN THE
9:50:44AM SUNSHINE.
9:50:44AM AGAIN, SINCE APRIL.
9:50:46AM WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CLOSING OUT THE REMAINING ONE.
9:50:49AM AS COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC PROBABLY KNOW, 3800 OF OUR 5,000
9:50:53AM EMPLOYEES ARE IN OUR BARGAINING UNITS BETWEEN THE ATU, PBA
9:50:58AM AND IAFF.
9:50:59AM AGAIN, WE WELCOME CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL AND, OF COURSE,
9:51:03AM COUNCIL WITH THE UNIONS BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE CONTRACTS
9:51:06AM COME THROUGH OnBase.
9:51:08AM I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL AND APPRECIATE ALL THE
9:51:11AM HARD WORK OF STAFF, ESPECIALLY LEGAL, HR, AND THE DEPARTMENT
9:51:15AM HEADS.
9:51:15AM THANK YOU.
9:51:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:51:16AM COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
9:51:17AM VERY GOOD.
9:51:19AM THANK YOU.
9:51:19AM WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:51:21AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE ONLINE PERSON.
9:51:24AM IS THAT MICHAEL RANDOLPH?
9:51:25AM IS HE ONLINE?
9:51:27AM MR. RANDOLPH.
9:51:29AM >> YES.
9:51:29AM GOOD MORNING.
9:51:30AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:51:33AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:51:34AM TODAY I BRING YOU TWO URGENT ISSUES IMPACTING AFRICAN
9:51:39AM AMERICANS.
9:51:40AM THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED AND THOSE STRIVING.
9:51:47AM FIRST, THE PAST, WE ASK YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE DESIGN
9:51:51AM GEOLOGICAL RESEARCH CENTER.
9:51:56AM BUILD, DESIGN AND RELATED COMMUNITY PROGRAMS.
9:51:59AM THIS INITIATIVE IS MORE THAN CULTURAL IN ITS TRANSFORMATION.
9:52:05AM DESIGN -- DESIGN CENTER WILL SERVE AS HISTORIC AND CULTURAL
9:52:12AM ANCHOR OFFERING GEOLOGICAL SERVICES, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS
9:52:16AM AND MORE.
9:52:17AM IT IS AN INCOME MODEL GENERATING REVENUE THROUGH OPEN SPACE,
9:52:23AM RENTAL SPACE PROGRAM, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC RETURN FOR THE
9:52:29AM CITY.
9:52:29AM THE MEMORIAL PARK IS MORE THAN A PUBLIC SPACE.
9:52:33AM IT IS A REFLECTION, EDUCATION, AND RECONCILIATION.
9:52:38AM NOW THE PRESENT.
9:52:41AM SINCE 1990, THE WEST TAMPA POPULATION HAS DECREASED BY 50%.
9:52:47AM THIS IS NOT A STATISTIC.
9:52:48AM THIS IS A WARNING.
9:52:49AM DISPLACEMENT, CULTURAL ERASURE -- OF RESHAPING THE
9:52:55AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:52:56AM THIS IS WHY WE ARE LAUNCHING THE BLACK AGENDA, A
9:53:00AM CONVERSATION WITH WEST TAMPA PREACHER TIED TO THE UPCOMING
9:53:03AM DISTRICT 5 SPECIAL ELECTION.
9:53:06AM THIS IS A VIRTUAL MEETING BRINGING IN RESIDENTS, NONPROFITS,
9:53:13AM CANDIDATES TO DISCUSS REAL SOLUTIONS ON AUGUST 27 AT 4 P.M.
9:53:16AM AGAIN, ONLINE.
9:53:18AM THIS WILL BE STREAMED LIVE, VOICES FROM THE BOTTOM UP TO
9:53:26AM TALK ABOUT STRATEGY TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.
9:53:28AM IT IS OUR MOMENT TO LISTEN, LEAD, AND ACT.
9:53:33AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:53:33AM APPRECIATE YOU.
9:53:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:53:35AM NEXT SPEAKER IS FRED HEARNS FOLLOWED BY RON WEAVER.
9:53:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:53:47AM MY NAME IS FRED HEARNS.
9:53:49AM I'M PRESIDENT OF THE ZION CEMETERY, PRESERVATION AND
9:53:54AM MAINTENANCE SOCIETY.
9:53:56AM I HAVE APPEARED BEFORE YOU IN THE PAST.
9:53:59AM JUST TO REITERATE THE REQUEST FOR $8 MILLION.
9:54:05AM THAT'S WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO BRING TOGETHER THE PROPERTY THAT
9:54:09AM IS NEEDED TO CREATE THIS MEMORIAL SITE AT THE ZION CEMETERY.
9:54:15AM SEVERAL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE HERE TODAY ALONG WITH SOME
9:54:18AM OTHERS I BELIEVE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING.
9:54:21AM PEOPLE WHO HAVE TIES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE OLD ROBLES
9:54:24AM PARK PUBLIC HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:54:28AM THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.
9:54:33AM WE WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS, BUT TODAY,
9:54:38AM AS OF TODAY, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THINGS TO COME TOGETHER
9:54:42AM SO WE CAN ACCUMULATE THE PROPERTY UNDER OUR NONPROFIT AND
9:54:46AM THEN BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT MICHAEL RANDOLPH JUST
9:54:51AM TALKED ABOUT, THE MEMORIAL SITE FOR WE BELIEVE SOME 850
9:54:56AM GRAVES.
9:54:58AM PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO DIED AT A TIME
9:55:02AM WHEN, OF COURSE, THINGS WERE SEGREGATED, BUT RICHARD DOBY,
9:55:06AM YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT NAME BEFORE.
9:55:08AM DOBYVILLE, PURCHASED THIS LAND FOR A CEMETERY FOR BLACK
9:55:13AM PEOPLE.
9:55:13AM SO TODAY WE'RE ASKING THAT THE RIGHT THING BE DONE.
9:55:16AM I ALSO SERVE AT YOUR PLEASURE ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION
9:55:21AM COMMITTEE.
9:55:22AM OUR CHAIRPERSON, CONNIE BURTON, IS HERE.
9:55:25AM OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE ARE HERE.
9:55:27AM I WAS CHARGED WITH LOOKING AT FORGOTTEN AND IGNORED HISTORY.
9:55:31AM THAT WAS MY ASSIGNMENT ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION
9:55:35AM COMMITTEE.
9:55:35AM THIS IS EXAMPLE NUMBER ONE.
9:55:38AM THE ZION CEMETERY.
9:55:40AM IT'S TIME FOR US TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
9:55:42AM I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE STEPS IN THAT DIRECTION.
9:55:45AM WE'VE BEEN TOLD HERE AND THERE THAT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION
9:55:49AM IS MAKING PROGRESS.
9:55:53AM IT'S SORT OF A COMPLICATED MATTER BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
9:55:56AM FIGURE OUT THINGS BEFORE.
9:55:57AM THIS IS IN THE HEART OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:56:00AM IT'S ALSO IN DISTRICT 5.
9:56:03AM AND IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS I SPOKE WITH COUNCILWOMAN
9:56:07AM GWEN HENDERSON ABOUT.
9:56:08AM AND SHE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE.
9:56:10AM WE NOW HAVE A HISTORIC MARKER ON FLORIDA AVENUE THAT THE
9:56:14AM THOUSANDS OF CARS THAT DRIVE NORTH ON FLORIDA SEE EVERY DAY,
9:56:19AM ALONG WITH A BANNER THAT LISTS THE NAMES OF SOME OF THOSE
9:56:23AM 850 PEOPLE BURIED AT ZION.
9:56:26AM AGAIN, THIS IS AN $8 MILLION ASK.
9:56:29AM IT'S NOT A BIG NUMBER FOR THIS CITY, BUT IT'S NEEDED FOR US
9:56:33AM TO DO THE RIGHT THING AT THE ZION CEMETERY SITE.
9:56:37AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
9:56:39AM I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PERRY HARVEY PARK BAND
9:56:44AM SHELL.
9:56:44AM WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT.
9:56:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:56:48AM RON WEAVER, FOLLOWED BY CONNIE BURTON.
9:56:52AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
9:56:54AM I'M RON WEAVER, 4403 WEST DALE AVENUE.
9:57:00AM I RISE ON THE OCCASION OF ITEM 54, WHICH IS TO NAME STREET
9:57:04AM PREFERABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF TAMPA STADIUM FOR GEORGE
9:57:09AM AND LEONARD LEVY.
9:57:10AM I SPOKE TO LEONARD LEVY A WEEK OR TWO OKAY.
9:57:14AM HIS IDENTICAL BROTHER BORN IN 1933, LOOKING AT THOSE TWO
9:57:20AM PERFECT TWINS AND WONDERING WHAT WILL THEY DO FOR THE CITY?
9:57:23AM WHAT KIND OF MEN WILL THEY BECOME?
9:57:25AM WELL, GEORGE LEVY WAS A U.S. SPORTS WRITER AFTER A GREAT
9:57:31AM CAREER AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
9:57:34AM HE WILL BE ON APRIL 3, 1974, DRAKE HOTEL IN NEW YORK CITY
9:57:38AM TRYING TO GET TAMPA A TEAM.
9:57:40AM THEY ONLY HAD THREE STRIKES AGAINST THEM.
9:57:43AM NUMBER ONE, INSUFFICIENT SEATS IN THE BIG SOMBRERO.
9:57:48AM NUMBER TWO, INSUFFICIENT HOTEL ROOMS AND NUMBER THREE, NO
9:57:52AM OWNER.
9:57:52AM APRIL 3, 1974 IN THE BRAKE HOTEL AND ORIGINAL LEVY AND HIS
9:57:57AM BROTHER LEONARD AND THE TEAM OF CHUCK SMITH AND THE LEADERS
9:58:01AM OF TAMPA WERE ABLE TO CONVINCE THE NFL TO ALLOW AN EXPANSION
9:58:10AM FRANCHISE TO TAMPA.
9:58:13AM GET US THE TAMPA BAY BUCS.
9:58:19AM SAVING OF THE TAMPA BAY BUCS ALSO INVOLVED KEEPING THE BUCS
9:58:22AM HERE WHICH INVOLVED A STADIUM, WHICH INVOLVED A TRIP BY
9:58:25AM GEORGE LEVY INTO MAYOR DICK GRECO'S OFFICE WITH A HALF A
9:58:29AM PENNY.
9:58:30AM HE HAS A TROPHY COMPANY, VERY SUCCESSFUL NATIONALLY
9:58:33AM RECOGNIZED 30,000-SQUARE-FOOT TROPHY COMPANY AND GEORGE WITH
9:58:37AM HIS MACHINERY CUTS A PENNY IN HALF.
9:58:39AM IN 1995, TAKES IT INTO THE OFFICE OF DICK GRECO IN THIS
9:58:44AM BUILDING AND HANDS HIM A HALF PENNY.
9:58:48AM WE NEED A HALF CENTS SALES TAX.
9:58:50AM WE NEED IT FOR THINGS LIKE KEEPING THE BUCS.
9:58:52AM MORE IMPORTANTLY, 89% WON'T GO THROUGH BUCS STADIUM.
9:58:56AM GO THROUGH SCHOOLS WHICH SAVE THEM.
9:58:58AM ROADS, WHICH SAVED THEY WILL.
9:59:00AM DRAINAGE, WHICH SAVED THEM.
9:59:01AM WATER DEPARTMENT, APRIL AND HER TEAM THIS MORNING
9:59:04AM RECOGNIZED.
9:59:04AM THIS MAN, GEORGE LEVY AND HIS BROTHER LEONARD LEVY DESERVE
9:59:08AM SOMETHING NAMED IN THEIR HONOR NEAR TAMPA STADIUM BECAUSE
9:59:11AM THEY WERE ABLE TO INSTILL IN THIS COMMUNITY THE CONFIDENCE
9:59:14AM OF GETTING US THE BUCS.
9:59:16AM TOGETHER, THEY GOT US NOT ONE BUT TWO DIFFERENT SUPER BOWLS
9:59:20AM AND FINALLY I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS, DAVID KENNEDY, ONE OF THE
9:59:24AM MOST DISTINGUISHED PHILANTHROPISTS IN THIS TOWN, AS SWIM
9:59:29AM COACH, GEORGE LEVY SAID I'M NOT JUST GOING TO TEACH YOU HOW
9:59:31AM TO SWIM, I'M GOING TO MAKE MEN OF YOU.
9:59:34AM GEORGE LEVY MADE MEN AND WOMEN OF CHARACTER AND VALUES OUT
9:59:38AM OF HUNDREDS OF TAMPA'S LEADERS.
9:59:40AM GEORGE AND LEONARD LEVY, I STAND IN THEIR HONOR.
9:59:43AM THANK YOU.
9:59:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. WEAVER.
9:59:45AM NO CLAPPING NO FINGER SNAPPING.
9:59:54AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:59:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:59:56AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:59:59AM AUGUST IS RECOGNIZED WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AS A TIME TO
10:00:03AM REFLECT ON THOSE THAT HELP FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM AND JUSTICE,
10:00:08AM LIBERATION OFFICERS AND WARRIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:00:11AM IT ALSO REFLECT BASED ON THE ONGOING STRUGGLE OF
10:00:16AM INCARCERATION.
10:00:17AM WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
10:00:21AM PEOPLE IN A TIME THAT JUST A HANDFUL HAVE ACCUMULATED BASED
10:00:25AM ON CRIMINAL HISTORY, I WONDER AND SAY WHAT DID OUR POLITICAL
10:00:30AM LEADERSHIP DO TO HELP TURN THE CIRCLE AROUND?
10:00:33AM SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THIS MORNING A YOUNG MAN THAT PUT OUT
10:00:37AM A BOOK CALLED THE DARK WEB.
10:00:42AM BACK IN CALIFORNIA, GARY -- CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME RIGHT
10:00:46AM NOW -- BUT HE TALKED ABOUT HOW COCAINE AND CRACK COCAINE
10:00:51AM ENTER INTO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
10:00:53AM IT DIDN'T WALK ITS WAY HERE.
10:00:55AM IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
10:00:57AM AND EVEN AFTER THE NUMBER OF SO-CALLED HUNDRED PLUS ARRESTS,
10:01:01AM WE STILL DEALING WITH ISSUE OF COCAINE AND DOPE IN OUR
10:01:06AM COMMUNITY.
10:01:06AM YOU KNOW WHY?
10:01:07AM WE DON'T HAVE POLITICAL RELATIONSHIP TO TURN THE WHEEL FOR
10:01:11AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:01:13AM HOW DO WE GIVE VOICES TO THE ENERGY OF AFRICAN PEOPLE THAT
10:01:17AM CONSTANTLY COME HERE AND SAY THESE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO
10:01:20AM RECTIFY THE HARM DONE BY POLITICAL LEADERS.
10:01:24AM SO, YES, WE DO NEED TO HAVE A RECKONING FOR ZION.
10:01:28AM YES, WE DO.
10:01:29AM YES, YOU CAN FIND $8 MILLION.
10:01:31AM YES, YOU DO HAVE IT.
10:01:34AM I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW WE WAS ABLE TO,
10:01:40AM DESPITE THE SCRAWL IN SOME WAYS THE NOT WANTING TO DO A
10:01:49AM SUCCESSFUL SUMMER PROGRAM, WE WAS ABLE TO DO THAT.
10:01:51AM THE CITY STAFF, MS. RUGINA CASTILLO AND HER STAFF WAS ABLE
10:01:58AM TO HELP A FEW YOUNG PEOPLE, NOT THE 72 THAT REQUESTED, NOT
10:02:03AM THE 142 THAT WE GET NEXT YEAR, 144 OR MORE, BUT WE DO HAVE
10:02:08AM VOICES IN THIS CHAMBER THIS MORNING THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT
10:02:11AM HOW THAT PROGRAM WAS ABLE TO BRING SOME LIGHT INTO THEIR
10:02:16AM LIVES.
10:02:16AM HOW THAT PROGRAM, AND THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO
10:02:21AM SERVE AS EXAMPLES IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT IF THEY ARE JUST
10:02:24AM GIVEN A MERE OPPORTUNITY, IF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GIVEN A MERE
10:02:28AM OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFORM THEIR LIVES, YOU KNOW WHAT WE DON'T
10:02:32AM HAVE ANYMORE?
10:02:33AM MISSING IN ACTION BASED ON THE LONG HISTORY OF
10:02:37AM INCARCERATION.
10:02:39AM MR. MIRANDA GOT IT RIGHT THIS MORNING.
10:02:41AM IF WE DIDN'T HAVE DOPE USERS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE DOPE SELLERS.
10:02:45AM WE WANT TO KILL IT OFF.
10:02:47AM WE DON'T WANT NO MORE DOPE SELLERS AND WE DON'T WANT NO MORE
10:02:51AM DOPE USERS.
10:02:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.
10:02:53AM ASHLEY, FOLLOWED BY -- ASHLEY, GOING ONCE?
10:03:02AM ASHLEY?
10:03:04AM GOOD MORNING.
10:03:18AM >> MY NAME IS ASHLEY DIJON.
10:03:20AM I WANTED TO GIVE THANK YOU TO MS. RUGINA CASTILLO AND MR.
10:03:29AM HUNTLEY.
10:03:29AM IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE PROGRAM.
10:03:34AM THIS INTERNSHIP IS VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT TO STUDENTS.
10:03:38AM IT GIVES US HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE AND OPENS A LOT OF DOORS.
10:03:42AM TOWARD THE CAREERS THAT WE WANT TO BE AND GOING INTO.
10:03:49AM NOT ONLY HAVE THEY HELPED US WITH A JOB, BUT THEY HELPED US
10:03:53AM FILLING OUT OUR RESUM .
10:03:55AM THEY HELPED US WITH OUR BODY LANGUAGE, HOW WE SHOULD SPEAK
10:03:59AM TO PEOPLE, HOW TO APPLY FOR A CREDIT CARD.
10:04:02AM HOW TO FILL OUT A W-4 FORM.
10:04:07AM HOW TO PRESENT YOURSELF.
10:04:08AM HOW TO HAVE HOME SKILLS THAT MAYBE YOU WEREN'T TAUGHT.
10:04:13AM YOU GET TO MEET A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE.
10:04:17AM I MET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I NEVER -- I MET THE MAYOR.
10:04:21AM IT IS VERY GREAT THAT WE GET TO HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WITH
10:04:32AM PEOPLE SO I GET TO DECIDE IF I REALLY WANT TO DO THIS NOW
10:04:36AM THAT I'M GETTING TO DO THIS HANDS-ON.
10:04:39AM THIS IS A VERY GREAT EXPERIENCE.
10:04:41AM NOT ONLY THAT, I JUST GRADUATED.
10:04:44AM THEY ARE GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SEE IF THEY CAN HIRE ME
10:04:47AM FULL ON WITH THE CITY.
10:04:49AM AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT I GET TO -- THEY ARE JUST DOING
10:04:55AM A LOT FOR ME RIGHT NOW.
10:04:58AM I THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING THIS PROGRAM.
10:05:00AM THIS HAS HELPED A LOT OF KIDS, A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS.
10:05:04AM IT OPENS THEIR EYES, LIKE, THEY GET TO MATURE A LITTLE
10:05:10AM FASTER AND LEARN WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR MONEY.
10:05:13AM I THANK EVERYONE FOR HAVING ME.
10:05:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL BREAK COUNCIL RULES BECAUSE WE ARE
10:05:16AM NOT SUPPOSED TO RESPOND.
10:05:18AM SYIP.
10:05:20AM >> THE SUMMER YOUTH INTERN PROGRAM.
10:05:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OTHER PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.
10:05:27AM HOW MANY MONTHS WERE YOU IN IT?
10:05:30AM >> TWO MONTHS.
10:05:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
10:05:32AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:05:33AM THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO CITY COUNCIL TODAY.
10:05:35AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:05:35AM WE'LL ALLOW THE CLAPPING FOR THAT ONE.
10:05:40AM BYRON.
10:05:45AM DOESN'T WANT TO SPEAK.
10:05:46AM OKAY.
10:05:47AM MARTY GREEN?
10:05:58AM HIDING IN THE BACK.
10:06:02AM THE NEXT ONE, GERALDINE WILLIAMS AFTER MARTY.
10:06:27AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:06:27AM MY NAME IS MARTY GREEN.
10:06:29AM I'M WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, CITY OF TAMPA.
10:06:32AM THIS IS MY SUPERVISOR, MICHAEL BROWN.
10:06:33AM I'LL GO TO THIS.
10:06:40AM IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, I WAS FORCEFULLY -- SAY IT AGAIN --
10:06:44AM FORCEFULLY.
10:06:45AM I HAD TO PAY MICHAEL BROWN TO WORK OVER-TIME.
10:06:48AM AGAIN, I LOOK, HE SAY HE WAS IN A MEETING.
10:06:51AM HE TOOK THE MONEY, THEN I GO BACK UP.
10:06:57AM HE SAY, STICK WITH ME, NEVER LEAD YOU ASTRAY.
10:07:02AM HE WANTED ME TO SET GUYS UP.
10:07:09AM I REFUSED TO SET THOSE GUYS UP.
10:07:11AM I GO DOWN TO THIS PART, PARKS, I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN
10:07:16AM THERE.
10:07:16AM I HAD TO FORCIBLY SET THE EMPLOYEES UP AND I REFUSED TO SET
10:07:22AM THE EMPLOYEES UP.
10:07:23AM I TOOK IT TO MAYOR JANE CASTOR AND WROTE HER AN E-MAIL WHICH
10:07:26AM SHE NEVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
10:07:28AM SHE TURNED IT OVER.
10:07:30AM I WROTE HER A LETTER AND I EXPLAINED TO HER, I TOLD HER MIKE
10:07:35AM BROWN ASKED ME ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASIONS FOR MONEY AND
10:07:39AM EVERYTHING IS GOING UNDER UNETHICAL PRACTICES.
10:07:42AM ALSO, I REFUSED TO BUY HIM LUNCH AGAIN AND I REFUSED TO LET
10:07:46AM HIM BORROW $10,000.
10:07:48AM AS OF RIGHT NOW, LIKE I TOLD TWO YEARS AGO -- YEAR AGO, HIS
10:07:53AM WIFE -- HE ASKED ME FOR MONEY TO BUY A LAND ROVER FOR HIS
10:07:58AM WIFE.
10:07:58AM WHAT DOES HIS WIFE HAVE NOW, LAND ROVER.
10:08:02AM GUESS CITY EMPLOYEES GAVE HIM MONEY FOR IT.
10:08:05AM ALSO CONTACTED THE CHIEF OF STAFF SITTING TO MY LEFT.
10:08:11AM HE TOLD YOU ALL HE HAD AN OPEN DOOR POLICY, WHICH THAT IS A
10:08:14AM LIE.
10:08:15AM HE TOLD ME I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PEOPLE I WAS
10:08:18AM TALKING ABOUT.
10:08:19AM I CALLED HIM AND TEXT HIM.
10:08:20AM THE TEXTS, HE DIDN'T RESPOND.
10:08:24AM I WENT TO BRYAN RODGER.
10:08:27AM BRYAN RODGER IS THE MODERN KKK.
10:08:30AM THEREFORE, EVERY DAY YOU CAN CATCH HIM AT DEWEY'S BECAUSE
10:08:35AM THEY GOT THESE STUPID PRICES.
10:08:36AM CUT -- THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN CATCH HIM AT.
10:08:37AM HE'S AN ALCOHOLIC.
10:08:38AM SO HE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:08:42AM THEREFORE I CONTACTED JEAN DUNCAN.
10:08:44AM NO RESPONSE FROM JEAN DUNCAN, NOT AT ALL.
10:08:47AM SAYING THAT TO SAY THIS IS, IF THIS GOING TO KEEP GOING ON,
10:08:53AM WHY WE HERE SPEAKING FOR THE SIMPLE FACT I'M FORCEFULLY
10:08:56AM HAVING TO GIVE MONEY TO A SUPERVISOR.
10:08:58AM THIS IS VERY UNETHICAL.
10:08:59AM THEREFORE, IF NOBODY DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT, IT WILL GO DOWN.
10:09:03AM I'LL SPEAK ON THE UNION CONTRACT.
10:09:05AM NONE OF US SIGNED THAT CONTRACT.
10:09:07AM NOT EVEN EXECUTIVE BOARD SIGNED THE CONTRACT.
10:09:09AM STEVE SIMON DOCTORED THAT CONTRACT UP.
10:09:13AM WE DID NOT WANT THAT.
10:09:14AM WHY WOULD WE TAKE A PAY CUT FOR HIM TO GET 24%.
10:09:18AM NO, WE DIDN'T DO THAT.
10:09:20AM TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF AND GAVE US A CONTRACT THAT WAS
10:09:23AM BOO-BOO.
10:09:25AM HOW DOES TPD GET 6% ALL THE WAY ACROSS AND WE ONLY GET 12.
10:09:30AM THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
10:09:31AM WE DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THAT.
10:09:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GERALDINE WILLIAMS FOLLOWED BY REVA IMAN.
10:09:43AM >> I'M GERALDINE WILLIAMS.
10:09:46AM I AM HERE AS THE DAUGHTER OF MR. JUDGE AND MS. MILDRED OF
10:09:52AM YBOR CITY.
10:09:52AM I'M ALSO THE MOTHER OF WALTER LEE SMITH THE SECOND AND
10:09:59AM GRANDMOTHER OF WALTER LEE SMITH THE THIRD.
10:10:04AM I AM HERE TO SAY THAT I AM A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF ONE OF THE
10:10:11AM BODIES THAT HAS BEEN INTERRED AT ZION CEMETERY.
10:10:16AM I COME TO YOU WITH A VERY EMOTIONAL, VERY SUBSTANTIAL
10:10:22AM PRESENTATION, AND I'M JUST SAYING TO YOU THAT I DON'T LIKE
10:10:25AM THE FACT THAT YOU AREN'T DOING ANYTHING.
10:10:28AM BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT, I WANTED TO COME TO YOU TO SAY, LET
10:10:32AM ME HELP YOU OUT.
10:10:34AM I DID SOME RESEARCH BECAUSE I'M THINKING THAT PERHAPS YOU
10:10:37AM JUST DON'T KNOW, AND YOU DON'T APPRECIATE WHAT WE ARE GOING
10:10:44AM THROUGH.
10:10:45AM THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHOM WE HAVE HAD IN OUR FAMILIES, AND OURS
10:10:51AM IS ANA REBECCA WYCHE, W-Y-C-H-E.
10:11:01AM SHE IS LISTED.
10:11:03AM AND I FOUND HER -- THEY DIDN'T FIND ME -- I FOUND HER
10:11:03AM BECAUSE OF FAMILY RESEARCH.
10:11:05AM AND I WANT TO SAY TO YOU THAT IT WAS A BLACK MAN, YOU HEARD
10:11:10AM OF HIM, RICHARD DOBY, IN 1894 WHO PURCHASED THE LAND AND
10:11:17AM DOBY GAVE THAT LAND TO THE CITY FOR BLACKS WHO LIVED IN
10:11:22AM DOBYVILLE TO BE BURIED.
10:11:24AM AND THE CITY -- AND THIS IS WHY I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND --
10:11:30AM WE ARE NOT JUST COMING TO YOU BECAUSE WE'RE JUST COMING TO
10:11:32AM YOU, BUT THE CITY WAS INVOLVED IN THE ACTIONS THAT WERE
10:11:37AM ILLEGAL.
10:11:38AM THEY TAXED THE CEMETERY AFTER THEY WEREN'T PAID.
10:11:46AM THEN AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS REALLY HIGH IN THE CONFEDERATE
10:11:53AM ARMY AND HIGH IN THE CITY AND COUNTY HERE, HE WAS THE TAX
10:11:57AM COLLECTOR, AND HE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS ASSIGNING THE TAXES.
10:12:01AM THEN HE SAID HE PAID THE TAXES, SO IT WAS HIS LAND.
10:12:05AM WELL, HE WASN'T ABLE TO KEEP IT AT THAT TIME, BUT LATER ON
10:12:08AM HE WAS ABLE TO KEEP IT.
10:12:09AM AND THEN HE SOLD IT TO THE WHITE MAN FROM WHOM -- TO WHOM --
10:12:17AM FROM WHOM DOBY HAD PURCHASED IT.
10:12:20AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WHILE YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY
10:12:26AM AT THIS TIME DID NOT ENGAGE IN THE ACTIVITIES, THEY DID
10:12:32AM EXIST.
10:12:33AM AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
10:12:36AM FRED HAS SAID AT LEAST TWO TIMES, AND OTHERS HAVE SAID, WHAT
10:12:41AM WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO.
10:12:44AM ONE LITTLE DEVIATION IN THAT, THAT IS, WE WANT YOU TO --
10:12:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. WILLIAMS.
10:12:49AM YOUR TIME IS UP.
10:12:50AM I'M SO SORRY.
10:12:51AM YOU CAN E-MAIL US ANYTIME, ALL OF US.
10:12:55AM E-MAIL THE COUNCIL.
10:12:56AM >> OKAY.
10:12:56AM THANK YOU.
10:12:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REVA IMAN.
10:12:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:13:00AM I'M REVA IMAN.
10:13:01AM I'M HERE SPEAKING NOT FOR MYSELF.
10:13:08AM I'M HERE SPEAKING FOR THOSE WHO LIE THERE AND MY ANCESTORS.
10:13:13AM WHEN I SAY MY ANCESTORS, WHEN THEY BUILT THESE BUSINESSES
10:13:22AM AND THE HOUSING ON TOP OF THEM, THEY DISTURBED THE RESTING.
10:13:29AM THEY DISTURBED THE RESTING.
10:13:33AM I'M SPEAKING FOR MY ANCESTORS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE
10:13:36AM OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM PEACE.
10:13:38AM WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM GRACE.
10:13:42AM WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE OUR HANDS AND SAY THANK
10:13:46AM YOU.
10:13:50AM THIS DAY AND TIME THAT THEY CAN REST IN PEACE IF WE CAN DO
10:13:56AM THE RIGHT THINGS TO BRING THAT PEACE TO MY ANCESTORS.
10:14:00AM ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ME.
10:14:03AM I'M SPEAKING FOR THOSE WHO LIE THERE.
10:14:06AM AND WHEN WE ASK FOR $8 MILLION JUST TO THINK I WAS THERE
10:14:10AM BECAUSE I WAS STAYING THERE, AND WHEN THEY WERE EXAMINING
10:14:13AM GOING ACROSS THERE, I WAS ABLE TO WALK WITH THOSE
10:14:15AM INDIVIDUALS AND SEE THE LIGHT UP OF THOSE BODIES.
10:14:20AM I WAS THERE WHEN THEY WENT DOWN TO CERTAIN THINGS TO VERIFY
10:14:23AM THAT THESE PEOPLE WERE THERE.
10:14:25AM IT WAS DISTURBING, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO
10:14:35AM BRING PEACE.
10:14:38AM WE ASK THAT YOU DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:14:41AM I SAID LAST WEEK IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT.
10:14:45AM YOU CAN MAKE HISTORY.
10:14:46AM YOU CAN BE A PART OF HISTORY.
10:14:50AM JUST TO THINK THE CITY IS GROWING, GETTING BIGGER, THINGS
10:14:53AM ARE CHANGING.
10:14:55AM PUT TROLLEYS GOING DOWN FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:14:59AM WHAT A WONDERFUL THING.
10:15:02AM VISITORS COME AND SAY ZION, FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERY
10:15:06AM THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE PASSING.
10:15:10AM THERE'S SOME PLUS TO THIS, BUT THERE'S SOME HURT TO IT AS
10:15:17AM WELL.
10:15:18AM AND IT HURTS ME MORE BECAUSE I WAS A RESIDENT STAYING THERE.
10:15:25AM SEEING WHAT WAS GOING ON, HEARING WHAT WAS GOING ON AND JUST
10:15:29AM TO SEE IT.
10:15:30AM I REALLY WISH YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND OBSERVE
10:15:33AM WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THAT TIME.
10:15:35AM I THINK IT WILL PUT CLARITY IN YOUR HEART TO DO THE RIGHT
10:15:40AM THING.
10:15:40AM SO WE'RE ASKING AS A WHOLE THAT YOU PLEASE NOT FOR ME, BUT
10:15:47AM FOR MY ANCESTORS, DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:15:50AM THANK YOU.
10:15:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:53AM LEROY.
10:16:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:16:09AM LET ME SAY THIS.
10:16:12AM PLEASE DO NOT USE THE TONE OF MY VOICE AS AGGRESSIVE.
10:16:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:16:18AM >> LEROY LENTS, SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, 32-YEAR VETERAN.
10:16:23AM PUT THIS ON RECORD, PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE ME BY THE TONE OF MY
10:16:28AM VOICE BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT IS.
10:16:30AM I'M CLAIMING IT.
10:16:35AM I'M NOT DOWN HERE TO CAUSE A PROBLEM.
10:16:38AM I'M DOWN HERE TO START A SOLUTION TO OUR PICKUP GARBAGE AND
10:16:45AM IT'S WRONG.
10:16:46AM THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS COMPLETELY WRONG FOR TEN OR MORE
10:16:50AM YEARS.
10:16:50AM IT'S NOT A BLACK THING.
10:16:52AM IT'S NOT A WHITE THING.
10:16:55AM IT AIN'T NO RACIST THING.
10:16:57AM IT'S ALL ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR EVERY CITIZEN IN
10:17:00AM THE CITY OF TAMPA LIMITS.
10:17:01AM ABOUT THIS GARBAGE PICKUP.
10:17:04AM ON HOLIDAYS, WHEN THE HOLIDAY FALL ON A MONDAY, I AIN'T
10:17:12AM GOING TO PUT IT OUT LIKE THIS, BUT EAST TAMPA -- MORE
10:17:16AM HOLIDAYS ON MONDAY RATHER THAN TUESDAY, WHICH DOWN SOUTH GET
10:17:22AM PICKED UP.
10:17:23AM IT'S RIDICULOUS.
10:17:27AM ON A HOLIDAY WEEK, WE ALREADY SHORT WHEN WE COME IN BECAUSE
10:17:33AM WE ARE ON TEN-HOUR SHIFTS.
10:17:35AM BACK IN THE DAY, THEY USED TO CHANGE OUR SHIFT TO FOUR DAYS
10:17:39AM BECAUSE THE CITY ONLY PAYING US EIGHT HOURS FOR THE HOLIDAY.
10:17:43AM SO 10, 10, 10, 8, ONLY 38 HOURS.
10:17:48AM THEY WERE USING PEOPLE ANNUAL TIME TO MAKE UP THE TWO HOURS.
10:17:53AM THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
10:17:53AM THAT'S ILLEGAL.
10:17:54AM THEN THEY GET CLEVER AND TRY TO MAKE UP A 12 HOUR DAY.
10:18:01AM HOW YOU MAKE A 12 HOUR DAY OUT OF A TEN HOUR DAY?
10:18:04AM THIS CONTRACT.
10:18:12AM B 281 A POLICY, PURPOSE, THE CITY RECOGNIZE THAT THE
10:18:17AM INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE JOB SECURITY OF ITS
10:18:19AM EMPLOYEES DEPENDS UPON CITY SUCCESS IN PROVIDING PROPER AND
10:18:25AM EFFECTIVE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:18:26AM WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.
10:18:27AM WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.
10:18:30AM I DON'T CARE IF SOMEBODY HOUSE ON FIRE ON A MONDAY, OH,
10:18:38AM WE'LL COME BACK ON THE NEXT SCHEDULED DAY.
10:18:41AM NO, THEY'LL COME AND PUT THE FIRE OUT.
10:18:43AM WHILE THE CUSTOMER -- YOU ALL JUST WENT UP ON THE RATES.
10:18:49AM ON JUNE 6, YOU ADOPTED A FIVE-YEAR RATE INCREASE FOR THE
10:18:52AM RESIDENTS OF TAMPA.
10:18:54AM DIDN'T INCREASE THE RATES BUT AIN'T GIVING THEM THE SERVICE
10:18:57AM THEY ARE PAYING FOR.
10:18:58AM THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
10:18:59AM BACK IN THE DAYS HOW WE USED TO DO IT WHEN I FIRST STARTED
10:19:02AM AND THIS WAS BEFORE I STARTED IN 1993, IF A HOLIDAY FALL ON
10:19:05AM A MONDAY, WE COME ON A TUESDAY TO PICK UP MONDAY ROUTE.
10:19:09AM WEDNESDAY ON OFF DAY, WE PICK UP TUESDAY'S ROUTE AND
10:19:14AM THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, WE BACK ON TRACK.
10:19:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:18AM >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
10:19:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BISHOP TOM SCOTT FOLLOWED BY SURGRET DOSS.
10:19:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:19:29AM THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO
10:19:34AM ADDRESS YOU.
10:19:36AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:19:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU TAKE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE,
10:19:38AM PLEASE.
10:19:39AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK.
10:19:40AM CAN YOU RESET THE TIME?
10:19:43AM >> LET ME JUST SAY FOR THE RECORD, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING
10:19:48AM THIS WAS GOING TO BE IN ORDER IN TERMS OF SPEAKERS.
10:19:51AM EVIDENTLY GOT OUT OF LINE WHERE MRS. WILLIAMS WAS GOING TO
10:19:55AM SPEAK AND MR. WILSON AND THEN MR. HEARNS AND MYSELF SO THERE
10:19:59AM WOULD BE CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY AS OPPOSED TO BEING
10:20:02AM BROKEN UP THE WAY IT IS.
10:20:03AM THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
10:20:05AM I NOTICED AS YOU LISTEN TO ALL OF THE PERSONS WHO SPOKE ON
10:20:12AM ZION CEMETERY -- DID I STATE MY NAME?
10:20:15AM THOMAS SCOTT.
10:20:16AM IN CASE I DIDN'T, THOMAS SCOTT, PASTOR OF 34th STREET
10:20:21AM CHURCH OF GOD.
10:20:22AM I NOTICED YOUR EXPRESSION.
10:20:26AM I THINK YOUR EXPRESSION SAID THIS IS A HORRIFIC ISSUE.
10:20:31AM THIS ISSUE IS TERRIBLE.
10:20:32AM THIS ISSUE SHOULD NOT HAVE EVER HAPPENED.
10:20:36AM WHILE YOU DID NOT ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN, THERE WAS THOSE THAT
10:20:42AM DID ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN SOME YEARS AGO, AND I WOULD SAY ALL
10:20:46AM OF US SHOULD BE APPALLED AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND TAKEN
10:20:52AM PLACE AT THE ZION CEMETERY.
10:20:54AM I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GOING THERE WITH MRS. WILLIAMS AND
10:20:57AM BEING THERE AT THE MEMORIAL SERVICE AND VISITING THE VARIOUS
10:21:00AM GRAVE SITES THEY IDENTIFIED.
10:21:02AM IN MY OWN MIND, I COULD HARDLY IMAGINE HOW COULD ANYBODY OF
10:21:07AM CONSCIOUSNESS ALLOW THIS KIND OF THING TO HAPPEN, TO DISTURB
10:21:12AM THE GRAVE SITE, HUMAN BEINGS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED.
10:21:18AM SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED.
10:21:22AM I KNOW AS YOUR ROLE, THE MAYOR AND HER ADMINISTRATION ARE IN
10:21:26AM THAT PART OF ASSOCIATIONS.
10:21:28AM PERHAPS YOU CAN REQUEST A BRIEFING TO SEE WHERE THIS IS AND
10:21:34AM HOW IT'S BEING DEALT WITH AND HOW IT'S BEING HANDLED BECAUSE
10:21:37AM IN TALKING WITH MRS. WILLIAMS, THEY ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED,
10:21:40AM SEEM TO BE A DELAY, NOT BEING A MOVEMENT.
10:21:44AM SO I STAND TODAY WITH MRS. WILLIAMS AND THE BOARD AND THE
10:21:48AM ZION CEMETERY TO SUPPORT THEM IN THIS EFFORT TO TRY TO GET
10:21:52AM RESOLUTION TO IT.
10:21:53AM IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. RICHARD GONZMART AND
10:21:58AM MR. CREED HAVE ALSO AGREED TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE
10:22:02AM TRANSITION, OR THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY SO THEY CAN
10:22:05AM CORRECT THIS ISSUE AND MAKE THIS COMMUNITY, THE AFRICAN
10:22:09AM AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHOLE.
10:22:11AM I WOULD URGE YOU TO SEE WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS AND TRY
10:22:16AM TO HELP IT TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN BRING PEACE TO THOSE
10:22:20AM WHO HAVE DIED AND THEY HAVE BEEN DISTURBED BY THE BUILDING
10:22:23AM AND CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSES AND OTHER THINGS ON THIS
10:22:27AM CEMETERY.
10:22:27AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO
10:22:31AM AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:22:38AM >> I'M SURGRET DOSS.
10:22:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON.
10:22:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THE CHIEF OF
10:22:43AM STAFF AFTER LUNCH, WHATEVER, AND ASK -- AND IF IT IS
10:22:47AM POSSIBLE, A MOTION AT THE END OF THIS MEETING THAT WE GET A
10:22:50AM WRITTEN UPDATE ON ZION AT A FUTURE MEETING.
10:22:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER.
10:22:54AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:22:55AM SURGRET, GO AHEAD.
10:22:57AM >> AGAIN, SURGRET DOSS.
10:22:59AM REALLY, I DON'T CARE HOW ANYBODY TAKES IT.
10:23:02AM REGARDLESS OF THE STATUS, WHITE FOLKS IN TAMPA HAVE NO
10:23:06AM PROBLEM REMINDING BLACK PEOPLE THAT SEE US ANYTHING OTHER
10:23:12AM THAN N-ERS.
10:23:15AM IN TAMPA WHEN I TALK ABOUT WHITE FOLKS, THOSE CRACKERS
10:23:18AM ACROSS THE STREET IN THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, THEY CAN'T
10:23:22AM STAND BLACK MEN LIKE ME.
10:23:24AM PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, THEY LOVE COMPLIANT NEGROES.
10:23:28AM ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO LOVE TO MIMIC TALKING POINTS AND
10:23:31AM SMILE NICE AND SHUFFLE AND BOOT LICK AND EVEN LET -- FOR A
10:23:38AM PAT ON THE HEAD, SOME CRUMBS OFF THE TABLE OR EVEN A COUPLE
10:23:41AM OF TRINKETS OF SILVER OR GOLD.
10:23:44AM NATURALLY, YOU ALL KNOW I DON'T FIT THAT MOLD.
10:23:47AM ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GOOGLE ME.
10:23:50AM I KNOW A LOT OF CRACKERS ACROSS THE STREET HATE IT.
10:23:54AM I HAVE A PROBLEM --
10:23:55AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:23:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SURGRET, I'M SORRY, I KNOW A COUPLE
10:23:59AM WENT BY.
10:24:00AM BUT THE RACIAL EPITHETS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU
10:24:03AM PARAPHRASE THOSE TO KEEP THE CHAMBERS IN ORDER.
10:24:07AM >> STINKING WHITE PEOPLE.
10:24:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE KIDS IN THE CHAMBER.
10:24:12AM >> YOU WANT ME TO CALIBRATE MY SPEECH.
10:24:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU CAN ADD ONE MINUTE?
10:24:18AM >> WE'LL DO IT YOUR WAY.
10:24:19AM INTERESTING, AGAIN.
10:24:23AM PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IN THE FACT THAT I LIVE IN A COUNTY,
10:24:26AM BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL DRIVE OR MOVE AROUND,
10:24:29AM THERE IS A 90-FOOT CONFEDERATE FLAG OUT THERE.
10:24:32AM USING CERTAIN RACIAL EPITHETS, WHICH IS FUNNY.
10:24:38AM WHEN YOU SAY N-ER, THAT'S OKAY --
10:24:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, NO, NO.
10:24:47AM >> LISTEN.
10:24:47AM THIS IS CALLED WHAT IT IS.
10:24:49AM I LIVE IN A COUNTY WITH A 90-FOOT CONFEDERATE FLAG AT I-4.
10:24:54AM THEY ACTUALLY CHANGE IT FROM TIME TO TIME.
10:24:55AM I MAY DISAGREE WITH THE FLAG, BUT I DO REMEMBER I TOOK THAT
10:25:00AM OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST ALL
10:25:02AM ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
10:25:04AM REMEMBER.
10:25:04AM YOU CAN LOOK AT MY 214 ALSO.
10:25:07AM KEEP THAT IN MIND.
10:25:09AM WHAT I ASKED YOUR ATTORNEY TO DO THE OTHER WEEK WAS TO LOOK
10:25:14AM INTO MY ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THESE PEOPLE.
10:25:16AM AGAIN, I DON'T SOFT STEP.
10:25:19AM I SPEAK THE LAW, AND THEY HATE IT.
10:25:23AM I'M UNWAVERING.
10:25:24AM I'LL STAY THAT WAY.
10:25:25AM AS A VETERAN, I KNOW THAT I'VE EARNED MINE.
10:25:30AM LIKE MOSES IN THE BOOK THAT YOU ALL THUMP A LOT, DESPITE
10:25:37AM WHAT THE TRUTH WAS, HARDEN YOUR HEART.
10:25:39AM I'M NOT LIKING MYSELF TO MOSES OR ANY OF THE GREAT PEOPLE
10:25:44AM THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DEPICTED IN THAT BOOK BUT I'VE WALKED
10:25:48AM THESE STEPS ON MY OWN.
10:25:50AM I'M CLEAR WITH WHAT I SAY.
10:25:54AM I'M THE SAME GUY THAT TOOK ON THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FOR
10:25:58AM VIOLATIONS IN CHILD SUPPORT AREA.
10:26:00AM I WHIPPED YOUR JUDGE AND COP WHO FALSELY ACCUSED ME OF
10:26:05AM PERJURY.
10:26:05AM I'VE TAKEN ON RECENTLY LAW FIRMS LIKE AUSTIN BASKLE, BANKER,
10:26:14AM LOPEZ, BUTLER, KATZ AND CRAIG.
10:26:18AM THEY ARE SO UNETHICAL.
10:26:20AM LIKE PETTY FOGGER.
10:26:22AM THEY USE DUBIOUS TACTICS TO TRY TO GET BY BUT THEY GET HELP
10:26:27AM FROM WHITE JUDGES LIKE JUDGE EMILY ANN PEACOCK AND PAUL
10:26:31AM HEALY.
10:26:32AM OF COURSE, WE KNOW WHAT GREG HOLDER TRIED TO DO TO ME BUT
10:26:37AM UNSUCCESSFUL.
10:26:38AM HOW MANY BLACK FOLKS THAT DIDN'T HAVE MY WHEREWITHAL THAT
10:26:41AM THEY SENT UP THE ROAD FALSELY.
10:26:43AM THAT BEING SAID, I HAD TO GO OFF A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE
10:26:46AM COUNCILMAN'S SUGGESTION TO ME, ALTHOUGH I DO FIND IT
10:26:50AM DISRESPECTFUL CONSIDERING.
10:26:53AM TALK ABOUT THAT FLAG, DON'T TALK ABOUT WORDS.
10:26:56AM WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT PEOPLE SAY FROM TIME TO
10:26:58AM TIME.
10:26:58AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN
10:27:01AM PEOPLE WEAR ON THEIR SHIRTS OR ON THEIR CLOTHING, BUT I
10:27:05AM RESPECT THEIR RIGHT TO USE THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
10:27:08AM WE LIKE TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN THE CONSTITUTION APPLIES,
10:27:11AM ESPECIALLY WHEN BLACK FOLKS ARE THE ONES WHO WANT TO USE IT.
10:27:14AM THAT BEING SAID, SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF
10:27:17AM HIGHER LEARNING IN THE CITY, THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS
10:27:19AM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:27:20AM YOU ALL TAKE CARE.
10:27:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:27:22AM ROBIN LOCKETT FOLLOWED BY ISLEY IRVIN.
10:27:29AM ROBIN.
10:27:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:27:42AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:27:43AM I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS I WANT TO DISCUSS TODAY.
10:27:46AM FIRST OF ALL, I AM A BOARD MEMBER OF ZION CEMETERY.
10:27:54AM I WAS A RESIDENT OF ROBLES PARK.
10:27:58AM ACTUALLY, THE CEMETERY WAS RIGHT UNDER THE APARTMENT THAT WE
10:28:03AM LIVED IN, 212 EAST KENTUCKY.
10:28:05AM SO IT IS DISTURBING THAT RESIDENCY WAS BUILT ON TOP OF THE
10:28:16AM CEMETERY.
10:28:16AM IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE SOMETHING HAS BEEN -- PROMISES HAVE
10:28:20AM BEEN MADE AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN KEPT.
10:28:22AM SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU FINDING IT IN THE BUDGET.
10:28:28AM THE ASKING AMOUNT IS $8 MILLION TO MAKE ZION CEMETERY WHOLE,
10:28:36AM RIGHT, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ABOUT REPARATIONS AND MAKING
10:28:39AM EVERYBODY WHOLE.
10:28:40AM SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION WHEN IT STARTS TO
10:28:45AM HAPPEN.
10:28:45AM I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS FOR LOVE, GROW,
10:28:53AM THRIVE 2045.
10:28:56AM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAME OUT.
10:29:01AM THEY CAME OUT FOR A SPECIAL MEETING FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS AND
10:29:05AM THEN THEIR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING FOR EAST TAMPA.
10:29:09AM I APPLAUD THOSE WOMEN -- THE DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT THEY DID.
10:29:15AM THEY GAVE GREAT INFORMATION.
10:29:18AM IF I HAD ANY CONCERNS, IT WOULD BE THAT WHEN THEY COME OUT
10:29:23AM TO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THEY KEPT IDENTIFYING THAT THEY
10:29:26AM ARE GOING 35,000 FEET HIGH IN REGARDS TO HOW THEY ARE
10:29:32AM LOOKING AT THAT PLAN.
10:29:35AM THAT THEY ADDRESS IN REGARDS TO SPEAKING, EXPLAIN WHAT THEY
10:29:39AM ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT
10:29:41AM DENSITY IS.
10:29:42AM A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR
10:29:46AM IS.
10:29:47AM JUST EXPLAIN AS THEY GO TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND GIVE
10:29:51AM EXAMPLES TO HELP THE COMMUNITY BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND IT.
10:29:57AM THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THEM PUTTING THAT
10:30:00AM MEETING ON.
10:30:00AM I APPLAUD -- I REALLY APPLAUD THE EMPLOYEES FOR COMING OUT
10:30:09AM AND SPEAKING THEIR TRUTH IN REGARDS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN
10:30:13AM THE DEPARTMENT THEY WORK IN.
10:30:14AM BEING BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU KEEP IT JUST
10:30:19AM WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT, NOBODY CAN HEAR IT.
10:30:22AM WITH THEM COMING TO COUNCIL, EVERYBODY CAN HEAR IT.
10:30:26AM IT'S UP TO SOMEBODY TO MOVE SOME.
10:30:29AM PEOPLE CAN'T KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SAME THING AND NOT
10:30:33AM GET RECTIFIED.
10:30:34AM SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WHOEVER IS LISTENING TO THESE
10:30:37AM INDIVIDUALS, THAT THE EMPLOYEES COMING OUT AND BRAVE ENOUGH
10:30:42AM TO SPEAK THEIR TRUTH, THAT THEY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
10:30:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE DC GOUTOUFAS
10:30:50AM FOLLOWED BY --
10:30:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: DC HAS AN INTERPRETER.
10:30:55AM SO HE SAID USUALLY WE ACCOMMODATE HIM WITH AN EXTRA TWO
10:30:58AM MINUTES FOR HIS INTERPRETER TO TRANSLATE.
10:31:01AM I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TWO MORE MINUTES.
10:31:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM CARLSON, SECOND FROM HURTAK.
10:31:06AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:31:07AM OPPOSED?
10:31:07AM GOOD MORNING.
10:31:10AM WELCOME, DC.
10:31:12AM >> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.
10:31:13AM MY NAME IS JESSICA.
10:31:15AM I WILL BE INTERPRETING FOR DC TODAY.
10:31:17AM OKAY.
10:31:19AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYONE HERE TODAY.
10:31:22AM MY NAME IS DC GOUTOUFAS.
10:31:24AM I'M HERE IN CONNECTION WITH ITEM 54, WHICH I FIRMLY
10:31:27AM SUBMITTED MARCH 25th WITH THE SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN
10:31:32AM MANISCALCO REQUESTING AN HONORARY STREET RENAMING FOR
10:31:38AM J. LEONARD LEVY AND GEORGE LEVY, PREFERABLY NEAR THE RAYMOND
10:31:43AM JAMES STADIUM.
10:31:44AM I'M GRATEFUL TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, CARLSON FOR
10:31:47AM INITIATING THE MOTION ON JUNE 5, 2025, AND TO THE CITY AND
10:31:51AM STAFF FOR PREPARING TODAY'S PRESENTATION.
10:31:53AM I SUBMITTED THE FORMAL REQUEST FOR THIS RENAMING EARLIER
10:31:57AM THIS YEAR AFTER WORKING CLOSELY WITH COUNCILMAN GUIDO ON IT
10:32:01AM FOR OVER A YEAR.
10:32:02AM THE MOTION IS NOW SCHEDULED TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND
10:32:05AM THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS NEAR THE RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM,
10:32:07AM WHERE THE LEVY BROTHERS LEGACY IS DEEPLY FELT.
10:32:12AM THIS MARKS THE THIRD INITIATIVE THAT I HAVE HAD THE
10:32:16AM PRIVILEGE TO LEAD WITH OUR CITY.
10:32:18AM BEGINNING WITH THE GOVERNMENT ACCESS TELEVISION CAPTIONING
10:32:21AM DURING THE 1990s, FOLLOWED BY THE HONORARY STREET RENAMING
10:32:24AM FOR THE JAMES URBANSKI NEAR DOWNTOWN TAMPA A COUPLE OF YEARS
10:32:30AM AGO.
10:32:30AM GEORGE LEVY, THE BROTHERS WERE MORE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMEN,
10:32:35AM THEY WERE -- I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M SO NERVOUS READING THIS.
10:32:38AM THEY WERE THE CIVIC VISIONARIES AND PROUD SONS OF TAMPA WHO
10:32:43AM DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO ELEVATING THE CITY'S NATIONAL
10:32:47AM PROFILE.
10:32:47AM BEGINNING IN THE 1970s, LEVY BROTHERS PLAYED THE CRUCIAL
10:32:51AM ROLE IN BRINGING THE NFL TO TAMPA.
10:32:54AM THEY JOINED A SMALL BUT DETERMINED GROUP THAT WORKED
10:32:58AM TIRELESSLY WITH COMMISSIONER PETE ROSELLE AND THE TEAM
10:33:01AM OWNERS TO ADVOCATE FOR A FRANCHISE.
10:33:03AM THEIR EFFORTS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN TAMPA BEING AWARDED THE
10:33:07AM BUCCANEERS IN 1974, WHICH WAS A MILESTONE IN CHANGING THE
10:33:10AM TRAJECTORY OF OUR CITY FOREVER.
10:33:11AM THEIR LEADERSHIP DID NOT STOP THERE.
10:33:14AM THE LEVY BROTHERS HELPED PUSH THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION OF
10:33:16AM THE ORIGINAL TAMPA STADIUM AND LATER NAVIGATED THE POLITICS
10:33:19AM THAT LED TO THE RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
10:33:22AM THEY WERE THE KEY PLAYERS IN SECURING THE FIVE SUPER BOWLS
10:33:24AM FOR TAMPA, ALONG WITH NCAA MEN'S FINAL FOUR AND THE COLLEGE
10:33:29AM FOOTBALL PLAYOFF AND THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS.
10:33:31AM THEY CHAMPIONED THE USF AND UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA ATHLETICS,
10:33:36AM AND THEY SUPPORTED THE TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING, AND THEY HAD
10:33:39AM HELPED GREAT THE SPORTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:33:42AM IN 2021, THE SUPER BOWL GENERATED MORE THAN 570 MILLION FOR
10:33:48AM THE REGION AND EACH YEAR.
10:33:49AM THE BUCCANEERS ALONE CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN 100 MILLION IN
10:33:52AM THE LOCAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
10:33:54AM THESE ARE NOT JUST NUMBERS, BUT THEY REFLECT A LEGACY THAT
10:33:57AM CONTINUES TO BENEFIT EVERY CORNER OF OUR COMMUNITY.
10:34:01AM AS A FOURTH GENERATION TAMPANIAN, I CARRY A DEEP SENSE OF
10:34:05AM PRIDE AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CITY'S PAST, PRESENT, AND
10:34:07AM FUTURE.
10:34:08AM MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS THE FIRST GREEK TO SETTLE IN TAMPA
10:34:11AM IN 1887.
10:34:12AM IN 1990, I BECAME THE FIRST DEAF GRADUATE TO GRADUATE FROM
10:34:16AM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
10:34:17AM I GREW UP HEARING STORIES ABOUT THE LEVY BROTHERS FROM MY
10:34:20AM LATE FATHER WHO KNEW THEM AS CHILDHOOD NEIGHBORS.
10:34:23AM THEIR STORY IS TAMPA'S STORY, AND IT DESERVES TO BE
10:34:27AM REMEMBERED.
10:34:27AM AN HONORARY STREET RENAMING IS FITTING AND A LASTING TRIBUTE
10:34:31AM TO TWO MEN WHOSE VISION HELPED BUILD THE TAMPA BAY WE KNOW
10:34:35AM AND LOVE TODAY.
10:34:35AM I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN MOVING FORWARD, AND
10:34:39AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
10:34:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK WE GOT BOTH OF YOUR NAMES.
10:34:44AM STATE BOTH OF THE NAMES FOR US PLEASE.
10:34:48AM BOTH NAMES.
10:34:49AM >> DUVALIS GOUTOUFAS.
10:34:51AM JESSICA PREVADA.
10:34:54AM >> I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR GIVING US TIME TO SPEAK.
10:35:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:03AM >> YOU DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR OUR CITY.
10:35:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:35:08AM CURTIS WILSON, FOLLOWED BY JARVIS.
10:35:13AM CURTIS WILSON.
10:35:18AM GOOD MORNING.
10:35:45AM >> THANK YOU.
10:35:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GET BY WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM YOUR
10:35:48AM FRIENDS.
10:35:48AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:35:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:35:51AM I AM CURTIS WALKER WILSON.
10:35:55AM I AM HERE AS THE VOICE FOR THOSE FROM MY ERA WHO ARE NO
10:36:04AM LONGER HERE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
10:36:06AM THE ONES WHO WERE THERE WHEN THE CEMETERY, ZION CEMETERY WAS
10:36:10AM TAKEN FROM THEM.
10:36:12AM I AM 96 YEARS OLD.
10:36:16AM IF I LIVE TO SEE NEXT WEDNESDAY, I WILL BE 97.
10:36:22AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:36:22AM I AM THE VOICE FOR THOSE PEOPLE THIS MORNING.
10:36:28AM THE ONES WHO WERE THERE, THEY WERE SEEN BUT NOT HEARD.
10:36:33AM THEIR VOICES MEANT NOTHING WHEN THEY TRIED TO SAVE THE
10:36:38AM CEMETERY.
10:36:39AM SO I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THIS ZION CEMETERY COMMITTEE IN
10:36:45AM THEIR EFFORTS TO BRING THIS CEMETERY BACK TO LIFE.
10:36:49AM I KNOW THAT'S AN OXYMORON, BUT THAT'S HOW I TALK.
10:36:52AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:36:53AM WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO LIFE.
10:36:57AM WE WAITED LONG ENOUGH.
10:36:59AM WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THAT MORNING TO BRING IT BACK.
10:37:06AM RIGHT NOW -- I AM ENTERTAINING POSITIVE VIBES ABOUT IT
10:37:10AM BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE, THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING YOU FOR QUITE
10:37:16AM SOME TIME NOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
10:37:21AM SO THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING HERE.
10:37:23AM I AM THE VOICE FOR A COMMUNITY, A VIBRANT COMMUNITY, RATHER,
10:37:30AM OF FAMILIES, HOMEOWNERS.
10:37:33AM THEY WERE HOMEOWNERS, MODEST HOMES, BUT THEY WERE
10:37:38AM HOMEOWNERS.
10:37:39AM ROBLES POND, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED BACK THEN, WAS A
10:37:42AM VIBRANT COMMUNITY OF HOMEOWNERS AND MANY OF THEM, THEY HAD
10:37:47AM LARGE FAMILIES AND MOST OF THEM WENT ON AND DID WELL FOR
10:37:53AM THEMSELVES.
10:37:54AM THE WILSONS, THE DENNARDS, THE JAMES FAMILY, THE SUTTON
10:37:59AM FAMILY, THE SIMMONS FAMILY, WILLIAMS FAMILIES, TWO SETS OF
10:38:03AM WILLIAMS OUT THERE.
10:38:05AM MYERS FAMILY.
10:38:07AM LOGAN, PATTERSON, THOMPSON, FLUKIER, STONE.
10:38:13AM THERE WAS A SCHOOL, ROBLES POND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
10:38:18AM THREE CHURCHES, TWO BAPTIST CHURCHES AND AN AFRICAN
10:38:22AM METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH.
10:38:26AM I AM ACCOMPANIED BY MY PASTOR TODAY.
10:38:32AM WE STAND HERE IN SUPPORT WITH THIS COMMITTEE TRYING TO GET
10:38:37AM THIS CEMETERY RESTORED.
10:38:39AM TO ME, IT IS SACRED.
10:38:40AM IT'S SACRED.
10:38:41AM I'M ASKING FOR A VOTE OF YEA ON THIS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD
10:38:51AM EXPEDITIOUSLY, GET THIS CEMETERY BACK WHERE IT WAS.
10:38:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. WILSON.
10:38:58AM MR. HEARNS, I HOPE YOU HAVE HER TESTIMONY ON VIDEO.
10:39:01AM POINT OF ORDER.
10:39:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: I NOW COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO IS TALKING
10:39:09AM ABOUT GETTING THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO COME UP SOME OTHER TIME,
10:39:13AM BUT HE'S HERE, AND THE PEOPLE ARE HERE.
10:39:15AM SHOULDN'T WE GIVE HIM A MINUTE TO RESPOND OR TWO MINUTES TO
10:39:17AM RESPOND?
10:39:18AM CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING IN RESPONSE TO WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN
10:39:23AM TALKING ABOUT WITH ZION?
10:39:24AM THEY ARE JUST ASKING FOR AN UPDATE ON ZION.
10:39:28AM I WAS JUST THINKING SINCE EVERYBODY IS HERE, YOU COULD
10:39:32AM ADDRESS THEM NOW.
10:39:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I STEPPED IN THE BACK REAL QUICK TO ASK
10:39:36AM LISA TO CALL YOU, BUT YOU ARE HERE.
10:39:39AM AT THE END OF THE MEETING, IF IT WOULD BE PROPER TO MAKE A
10:39:45AM MOTION FOR A WRITTEN UPDATE FOR SEPTEMBER 18 OR OCTOBER 9
10:39:48AM JUST TO GET AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY
10:39:52AM OWNERS.
10:39:52AM I KNOW THERE WAS A NEWS STORY ABOUT A MONTH AGO THAT
10:39:55AM PROGRESS WAS BEING MADE WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND
10:39:58AM FIGURING THAT SITUATION OUT.
10:40:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE GIVE HIM A MINUTE IF --
10:40:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO GIVE
10:40:05AM CHIEF BENNETT A MINUTE TO RESPONSE.
10:40:09AM SECOND FROM VIERA.
10:40:10AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:40:11AM OPPOSED?
10:40:11AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:40:13AM CHIEF BENNETT.
10:40:14AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING.
10:40:15AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:40:17AM THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT REPRESENTATION OF SOMETHING NEAR
10:40:21AM AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE I SERVED THE COMMUNITY FOR 40
10:40:25AM YEARS, I KNOW WE BUILT THE RICH OUT, RESOURCES COMMUNITY
10:40:30AM HOME FOR THE COMMUNITY TO FLOURISH.
10:40:34AM WE WATCHED THE JOURNEY AS ADMINISTRATION.
10:40:35AM I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING ON THE MEMORIAL.
10:40:38AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, I REMEMBER NURTURING THAT IDEA WHEN
10:40:41AM EVERYTHING CAME TO LIGHT ABOUT HAVING THE MEMORIAL.
10:40:43AM I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF COMPLEXITY BETWEEN LAND AND THE
10:40:48AM MEMORIAL AND THE DESIGN AND, OF COURSE, THE FINANCING.
10:40:51AM BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT BASED ON THE MOTION THAT WAS JUST
10:40:54AM DRAFTED TO BE FORMALIZED, THE CITY WILL GIVE A FULL-THROATED
10:40:58AM UPDATE AS SOON AS THE MOTION LANDS AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
10:41:01AM IS FULLY AWARE.
10:41:02AM I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS NOTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF WITH OUR
10:41:05AM STAFF THAT IS DOING ANYTHING BUT SUPPORTING THIS TO -- HOW
10:41:10AM IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
10:41:12AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND WE'LL GET YOU MORE
10:41:14AM SPECIFICS AS WE JOURNEY ON.
10:41:16AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, COUNCIL.
10:41:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU ALL FOR TURNING OUT TODAY.
10:41:19AM VERY NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AND ALL MY FRIENDS ON THE BUS.
10:41:22AM WE'LL GIVE A MINUTE FOR EVERYBODY TO CLEAR OUT.
10:41:28AM JARVIS, YOU WILL BE NEXT TO SPEAK.
10:41:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN MY MOM AND MY
10:41:34AM GRANDPARENTS CAME FROM CUBA AND CAME TO TAMPA, THEY LIVED AT
10:41:37AM ROBLES PARK AT THE BEGINNING, BEFORE THEY RENTED A HOUSE.
10:41:40AM I HAVE A PICTURE OF MY MOTHER IN THE DOORWAY.
10:41:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I SAY, IF I MAY?
10:41:48AM WALTER, I LOVE THAT SHIRT.
10:41:52AM I THINK THAT EVERY DAY.
10:42:10AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:42:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL, COME TO ORDER.
10:42:12AM JARVIS EL-AMIN.
10:42:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:42:19AM JARVIS EL-AMIN, TAMPA, 4818 EAST 99th AVENUE.
10:42:24AM I ALSO SIT ON THE RECONCILIATION COMMISSION, TOO.
10:42:26AM I'M HERE BECAUSE I WAS INVITED HERE BY MS. GERALDINE
10:42:32AM WILLIAMS AND HER SON WALTER GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
10:42:35AM BISHOP THOMAS SCOTT.
10:42:40AM I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU FOR REAL.
10:42:43AM I THINK ABOUT THE ZION CEMETERY, I THINK ABOUT BLACK WALL
10:42:46AM STREET.
10:42:46AM I THINK ABOUT BOMBING 900 BUSINESSES, JUST DESTROYING THE
10:42:54AM LAND.
10:42:54AM I THINK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE FELT THAT WAS JEWISH WHEN THEY GOT
10:42:57AM REPARATIONS FOR WHAT WAS DONE TO THEM.
10:42:58AM I THINK ABOUT THE JAPANESE AND WHAT HAPPENED IN REPARATION.
10:43:02AM I THINK ABOUT US AS AFRICAN AMERICAN BLACK PEOPLE THAT HAVE
10:43:05AM BEEN SLAVERY, SUFFERING, AND DEATH FOR 438 YEARS.
10:43:11AM I REMEMBER GROWING UP IN GEORGIA WHEN THE CEMETERIES WERE
10:43:14AM SEGREGATED.
10:43:15AM I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THE KIND OF HATE THAT PEOPLE COULD HAVE
10:43:20AM IN THEIR HEART.
10:43:22AM DISTURB THE DEAD.
10:43:24AM MY FAITH, TRADITION SAYS THAT THE DEAD CAN HEAR YOU TALK,
10:43:28AM BUT THEY CAN'T TALK BACK TO YOU.
10:43:30AM I GO TO THE GRAVEYARD AND TALK TO JIMMY BELL, MY MAMA, AND
10:43:34AM TALK TO HER BECAUSE I KNOW SHE HEAR ME.
10:43:37AM I'M THINKING IF JIMMY BELL WAS IN THAT GRAVE, ZION, I CAN
10:43:42AM IMAGINE THIS WOMAN THAT RAISED ME SO WELL, HOW SHE WOULD
10:43:47AM FEEL IF THEY START BUILDING ON TOP OF HER GRAVE.
10:43:50AM JIMMY BELL WOULD TALK ABOUT.
10:43:53AM SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN MAD, START RATTLING THE GRAVE.
10:43:57AM UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU?
10:43:58AM THIS IS AMAZING.
10:44:01AM THEY DIDN'T PUT THE TIME ON ME.
10:44:02AM THEY STARTED LATE.
10:44:03AM IT'S OKAY.
10:44:04AM ALL I HAD TO DO WAS INJECT JIMMY BELL NAME AND ALL HAPPENS
10:44:09AM GOOD FOR ME.
10:44:10AM IT'S ON YOU, TOO, CHAIRMAN.
10:44:14AM WHAT --
10:44:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CAN'T CONFIRM OR DENY THE TIME THAT IT
10:44:21AM STARTED BECAUSE I HAVE THREE REALLY GOOD FRIENDS UP THERE.
10:44:26AM >> LET ME SAY THAT ON THE REAL TIP.
10:44:30AM EACH ONE OF YOU ALL RAN FOR OFFICE.
10:44:33AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL.
10:44:36AM THE POLITICAL WILL TO TAKE POLITICS OUT OF IT.
10:44:39AM I HATE WHEN POLITICIANS SAY PUBLIC SERVANTS.
10:44:43AM NO, YOU ARE POLITICIAN.
10:44:45AM IF YOU ARE A PUBLIC SERVANT, THESE KIND OF ISSUES THAT COME
10:44:48AM BEFORE YOU, PULL AT YOUR HEARTSTRINGS.
10:44:51AM IT WOULD PULL AT YOUR HEARTSTRINGS.
10:44:53AM WHEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CREATED
10:44:59AM THAT WE MAY KNOW EACH OTHER, NOT DESPISE EACH OTHER.
10:45:02AM WE'RE KEEPING OUR DUTY TO GOD.
10:45:05AM THIS LADY -- 38 YEARS AGO, GET THEM TO SUPPORT EVENTS I WAS
10:45:13AM DOING.
10:45:14AM ALWAYS WROTE ME A CHECK AND SHE WAS THERE.
10:45:17AM I NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.
10:45:20AM SHE'S 90 SOME YEARS OLD NOW.
10:45:22AM COUNCIL, I'M SAYING TO YOU, PLEASE, FIND THE POLITICAL WILL,
10:45:26AM FIND IT IN YOUR HEART, MR. CHAIRMAN, ALL OF YOUR CITY
10:45:29AM COUNCIL.
10:45:29AM WE KNOW ALL OF YOU ALL.
10:45:31AM LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.
10:45:32AM ARE YOU SERIOUS?
10:45:34AM ARE YOU CURIOUS?
10:45:35AM IF YOU ARE CURIOUS, BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND MAKE IT
10:45:40AM HAPPEN.
10:45:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, JARVIS.
10:45:41AM ISLEY FOLLOWED BY STEVE BYRD.
10:45:45AM WE HAVE FOUR MORE SPEAKERS, FYI.
10:45:48AM MR. IRVIN.
10:45:50AM ISLEY IRVIN GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, GONE.
10:46:01AM STEVE BYRD FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW.
10:46:08AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
10:46:10AM I'M STEVE BYRD.
10:46:11AM I LIVE AT 810 EAST SKAGWAY RIGHT IN THE THICK OF THINGS.
10:46:18AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE POOL TODAY.
10:46:20AM I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT DONE AND A LOT OF PROMISES MADE
10:46:25AM AND SO FORTH.
10:46:26AM I'M JUST GETTING UP TO SPEED ON IT.
10:46:28AM IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS DON'T WANT INPUT.
10:46:32AM IT WAS HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHEN -- IT MOVES ALONG REALLY
10:46:38AM FAST.
10:46:39AM I'M AFRAID THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REPRESENTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD
10:46:43AM HAVE ACCEPTED THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY PROMISES, TOO MANY
10:46:46AM STUDIES.
10:46:47AM ANY OTHER AREA OF THE TOWN, THE CITY, IT WOULD BE DONE NOW.
10:46:52AM AND IT'S PATHETIC.
10:46:54AM I HEAR THINGS LIKE, WELL, PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T
10:46:59AM SWIM.
10:47:00AM THEY DON'T SWIM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A POOL.
10:47:03AM THEY'LL DROWN WHEN IT RAINS.
10:47:06AM THEY NEED TO SWIM.
10:47:07AM THANK YOU.
10:47:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:47:09AM ASHLEY MORROW, FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:47:16AM >> HELLO.
10:47:17AM MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
10:47:18AM I'M A FIFTH GENERATION TAMPANIAN, AND I LOVE BLACK HISTORY.
10:47:24AM SINCE I SEE THAT PEOPLE COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING, I CAN COME
10:47:27AM UP AND TALK ABOUT BLACK HISTORY AND PUT IT ON RECORD.
10:47:29AM I SAY I'M A FIFTH GENERATION TAMPANIAN.
10:47:33AM I'M THE GREAT, GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER OF WILLIE MAE LUNSFORD,
10:47:38AM WHO HAD LUCILLE LUNSFORD, WHO HAD KARL MORROW, SENIOR, WHO
10:47:39AM HAD KARL MORROW, JUNIOR, WHO HAD MYSELF.
10:47:44AM MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE IN TAMPA FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
10:47:45AM AND I AM INVESTED IN LEARNING AND SHARING ALL OF TAMPA'S
10:47:48AM BLACK HISTORY.
10:47:48AM MY FATHER'S UNCLE, MY GREAT UNCLE'S NAME WAS NORRIS MORROW.
10:47:54AM HE WAS A WHITE HAT DURING THE 1967 TAMPA RIOTS.
10:47:58AM THAT RIOT HAPPENED AFTER MARTIN CHAMBERS WAS SHOT IN THE
10:48:02AM BACK BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:48:04AM I'M NOT HERE TO RAIL AGAINST THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:48:08AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.
10:48:09AM IT IS SOMETHING I DID NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL AND SOMETHING VERY
10:48:12AM IMPORTANT THAT HAPPENED IN TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
10:48:15AM AFTER THAT, THERE WAS A RECKONING ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE,
10:48:19AM BELMONT HEIGHTS.
10:48:20AM ALSO MY FAMILY CAME OUT OF BELMONT HEIGHTS, ALONG EMMA
10:48:24AM STREET.
10:48:25AM ALL THOSE THINGS MAKE ME AND IS A PART OF ME AND MY LEGACY.
10:48:32AM BACK TO MY UNCLE.
10:48:35AM HE GOES TO D.C. AND HE SPEAKS DURING A HEARING.
10:48:39AM THIS IS ON TV.
10:48:40AM I REMEMBER MY FATHER PROBABLY TOLD ME THIS TEN YEARS AGO.
10:48:44AM DIDN'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO IT.
10:48:46AM IT WASN'T UNTIL I SPOKE TO MR. HEARNS AND HE SHARED THIS
10:48:50AM HISTORY WITH ME.
10:48:50AM HE SAID, NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY IMPORTANT.
10:48:53AM I FEEL LIKE TAMPA DOESN'T SHARE.
10:48:56AM IT DOESN'T ELEVATE ITS BLACK HISTORY BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE
10:49:00AM KNOW WHO THEY ARE, THEY START TO PUT VALUE ON THEIR LIVES.
10:49:05AM FOR ME, I FELT LIKE A MORE IMPORTANT PERSON JUST BECAUSE OF
10:49:09AM WHO THIS MAN WAS.
10:49:10AM AND I DID NOT KNOW.
10:49:11AM KNEW EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE MAN BUT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT
10:49:16AM THIS.
10:49:16AM SOMETHING I LEARNED A FEW YEARS AGO THROUGH A BOOK CALLED
10:49:23AM TAMPA HISTORY, I BELIEVE BY CANTOR BROWN, ABOUT THE
10:49:27AM RECONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
10:49:29AM HE TALKS ABOUT A TAMPA MILITIA LED BY A THOMAS McKNIGHT
10:49:32AM WHO WAS ONE OF THE STARTERS OF THE HARLEM ACADEMY.
10:49:35AM THIS IS A LIST OF BLACK PEOPLE THAT WERE ON A BLACK MILITIA
10:49:41AM HERE IN 1870.
10:49:44AM FIVE YEARS AFTER SLAVERY ENDS HERE -- SIX YEARS, ACTUALLY,
10:49:48AM 1864.
10:49:50AM SO THESE PEOPLE'S NAMES ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT.
10:49:56AM AND THERE ARE PEOPLE AND CITIZENS HERE STILL IN TAMPA, AND
10:50:01AM THEIR LEGACY IS IMPORTANT.
10:50:02AM ONE NAME THAT YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE AND I WAS LOOKING IT UP,
10:50:06AM BRYANT HORTON, DR. SAM HORTON BUILDING LOCATED ON 40th AND
10:50:12AM 21st.
10:50:13AM BIG PIC BUILDING.
10:50:15AM HE IS HIS DESCENDANT, AND THERE ARE OTHER NAMES.
10:50:19AM ANDREW STILLING WHO HAS A SUBDIVISION HERE IN TAMPA.
10:50:25AM I WILL STOP RIGHT THERE.
10:50:26AM I'LL BE HERE NEXT WEEK.
10:50:28AM THAT'S MY TIME.
10:50:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:50:29AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:50:34AM VALERIE, I DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOR YOU.
10:50:41AM DID YOU FILL ONE OUT?
10:50:42AM MS. POYNOR, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:50:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:50:52AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:50:53AM YOU KNOW, ON MONDAY, WE HAD A BUDGET MEETING AND ABOUT FIVE
10:50:58AM MINUTES I CALCULATED $8 MILLION THAT WE COULD BE USING FOR A
10:51:01AM CEMETERY.
10:51:01AM OH, MY GOSH.
10:51:05AM THIS IS OUR LIST FROM 2023.
10:51:08AM I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE FEES HAVE ACTUALLY
10:51:11AM BEEN RAISED SINCE 2023.
10:51:13AM I'M THINKING THE ANSWER IS ZERO.
10:51:15AM THE ONLY FEE I KNOW OF THAT I'VE SEEN THAT'S BEEN CHANGED
10:51:18AM SINCE THE LIST WE RECEIVED IN 2023 AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
10:51:22AM WAS FOR THE SIDEWALK FUNDS.
10:51:25AM I DON'T THINK IT'S EVEN ON THAT LIST.
10:51:26AM SO THAT'S MY ONLY KNOWLEDGE.
10:51:29AM NOW, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU KNOW I LOVE
10:51:31AM THE BUDGET.
10:51:32AM I WAS LOOKING AT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT LAST NIGHT.
10:51:36AM THIS WAS IN A MEETING.
10:51:38AM I WAS NOTICING THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN LESS MONEY OVER TIME.
10:51:41AM NOW, WHEN MS. FEELEY CAME BEFORE THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IN
10:51:46AM MARCH OF 2024, SHE SAID THAT THERE WAS A FEE STUDY BEING
10:51:51AM DONE FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT.
10:51:53AM WHERE IS IT?
10:51:54AM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S DONE.
10:51:56AM THERE IS ALSO A FEE STUDY -- THERE WAS ALSO A FEE STUDY
10:51:59AM BEING DONE FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
10:52:01AM I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE HAVE THESE CHARGES FOR
10:52:04AM SERVICES ON BOTH OF THESE, AND THEY DON'T REALLY SEEM TO
10:52:08AM MATCH UP.
10:52:09AM YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH ONE ANOTHER.
10:52:12AM WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT IS, WE
10:52:15AM GOT CHARGES FOR SERVICES, WHICH IS A PITTANCE.
10:52:18AM $600,000.
10:52:20AM WHERE THIS INTERGOVERNMENTAL MONEY IS THAT THE MONEY WE WERE
10:52:23AM SUPPLEMENTING THESE FEES?
10:52:24AM BECAUSE I REMEMBER, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE WAS A BIG
10:52:29AM CHUNK OF MONEY THAT WE WEREN'T COVERING.
10:52:32AM SO IF A SERVICE COST, IF A SERVICE IS BEING CHARGED A
10:52:36AM HUNDRED DOLLARS IT ACTUALLY COSTS THE CITY A THOUSAND
10:52:38AM DOLLARS TO DO THAT SERVICE.
10:52:40AM WHO IS PAYING THE DIFFERENCE?
10:52:42AM EVERYBODY WHO PAYS TAXES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS PAYING THE
10:52:45AM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE $100 AND THOUSAND DOLLARS.
10:52:48AM $900 IS COMING OUT OF OUR POCKETS.
10:52:51AM I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WHERE I SEE THIS ISSUE.
10:52:55AM THIS IS NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT.
10:52:56AM THEY CAME IN JANUARY OF 2023.
10:52:58AM I DON'T THINK THESE FEES HAVE BEEN CHANGED.
10:53:01AM WE WERE LOSING MONEY ON OUR BUSINESS TAX.
10:53:05AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHEET I GAVE YOU, THAT BUSINESS TAX HAS
10:53:08AM NOT BEEN INCREASED SINCE 1991.
10:53:10AM 1991.
10:53:12AM OH, MY GOD.
10:53:12AM I WAS 20 YEARS OLD.
10:53:14AM ANYWAY, THE PERSONNEL COST, THIS LIST IS HUGE.
10:53:20AM BOTTOM LINE, FIRST ONE, LOSING $541,000 THAT WE LOST THAT
10:53:26AM YEAR.
10:53:26AM ANOTHER BIG CHUNK OF MONEY, WE LOST $75,000 ON THESE FEES.
10:53:35AM WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF MONEY THAT THE CITY COULD HAVE TO PAY
10:53:38AM TAXES.
10:53:39AM AND WHAT MADE ME DIG INTO THIS IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS KEPT
10:53:43AM TALK, LIKE SCOPE CREEP ABOUT A MILLAGE INCREASE.
10:53:46AM LET'S CHARGE WHAT THE SERVICES COST FOR THE SERVICES.
10:53:50AM AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA SHOULD NOT BE OFFSETTING THOSE
10:53:52AM FEES.
10:53:53AM I ALSO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE
10:53:57AM PROJECTED $700,000 AND SPENT 11 MILLION.
10:54:01AM HOW DO YOU MISS 10.3 MILLION.
10:54:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
10:54:06AM >> HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:54:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LAST BUT NOT LEAST, VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:54:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:54:14AM VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON.
10:54:17AM THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD MEETING FOR ME TODAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE
10:54:20AM ALL SEEN THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED MOLD ME AND MADE ME INTO WHO
10:54:24AM I AM.
10:54:25AM MS. CURTIS WILSON, YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW HER, BUT WE KNOW HER
10:54:29AM BECAUSE THEY HAD WILSON FUNERAL HOME.
10:54:31AM AND IN THE '60s, IF YOUR SHOES WERE RAGGEDY, HER BROTHERS
10:54:35AM WOULD CALL YOU OVER THERE AND ASK WHO YOUR PARENTS WAS AND
10:54:38AM THEY WOULD BUY YOU SHOES.
10:54:40AM THEY DID A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:54:42AM WHEN WE THINK ABOUT BUILDING SOME APARTMENTS, LET'S PUT HER
10:54:46AM NAME ON THEM.
10:54:47AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING.
10:54:52AM THE JACKSON HOUSE, TO BE SPECIFIC, I HAD CAME DOWN HERE I
10:54:57AM GUESS TUESDAY WHEN IT WAS ALL ON THE NEWS.
10:55:00AM THOUGHT I WOULD GET PIECE OF WOOD, SCARED TO GET CLOSE TO
10:55:04AM IT.
10:55:04AM BUT WE NEED TO GET WITH MRS. COLINS, WE NEED AN UPDATE, WHEN
10:55:10AM ARE YOU GOING TO START.
10:55:12AM EVERYTHING YOU WANTED FELL INTO PLACE.
10:55:14AM NOW, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, LET'S GET IT GOING.
10:55:18AM ANOTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WAS HOUSING.
10:55:23AM AND HOW HOUSING IS TIED INTO RESOLUTION 568 AND 344.
10:55:28AM WE USED TO HAVE RED LINING.
10:55:31AM WE USED TO HAVE THE HOUSES DOWN THERE BEHIND BLUE RIBBON IN
10:55:34AM THE BOTTOM.
10:55:35AM THEY WERE SUBSTANDARD HOUSING.
10:55:37AM URBAN RENEWAL CAME THROUGH, TOLD YOU THE HOUSE WASN'T FIT
10:55:40AM FOR LIVING, SO THEY BUILT YOU A HOUSE AND YOU GOT FUNDING.
10:55:45AM WHAT I'M SEEING GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA, I WAS AT CRA.
10:55:48AM I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT.
10:55:50AM I TALKED TO CDC.
10:55:51AM YOU ALL PUTTING IN THOSE 79 UNIT APARTMENTS THERE, WHY ARE
10:55:55AM THEY ALL TWO BEDROOMS.
10:55:58AM WHY AREN'T THERE THREE BEDROOMS.
10:56:00AM NOT ALWAYS THE PERFECT FAMILY.
10:56:05AM BOY AND GIRL.
10:56:06AM SOME HAVE FOUR AND FIVE CHILDREN.
10:56:08AM EVERYBODY FOCUSING IN ON TWO BEDROOM AND ONE BATH.
10:56:12AM WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THREE, FOUR, FIVE KIDS.
10:56:15AM WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO?
10:56:16AM ANYBODY THINK ABOUT THAT?
10:56:19AM WE NEED SOME THREE-BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
10:56:21AM ONLY ONES I KNOW ABOUT, THE OLD FUN-LAN PUT 6 IN THERE.
10:56:28AM THE CUBAN GUY WHO I DON'T KNOW, THEY GOT THOSE RIGHT THERE
10:56:32AM ON 22nd STREET AND COLUMBUS DRIVE.
10:56:34AM WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS, BIGGER THAN TWO BEDROOM.
10:56:38AM WE NEED SOME THREE-BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
10:56:41AM I REALLY FEEL LIKE ME AND THE PUBLIC GOT BAMBOOZLED.
10:56:46AM EVERYBODY IS PUSHING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:56:49AM YES, AFFORDABLE, BUT HUNDRED, HUNDRED, 120 PERCENT OF THE
10:56:54AM AMI, WHAT ABOUT THE 30 AND 50 PERCENT, THE PEOPLE BEING LEFT
10:56:59AM BEHIND.
10:57:00AM THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
10:57:01AM WE START BUILDING HOUSES AND APARTMENTS, WE NEED TO SPLIT
10:57:05AM THEM.
10:57:06AM HALF FOR 30 AND 50 PERCENT.
10:57:07AM HALF FOR 80 AND 120 PERCENT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT TO BUILD
10:57:13AM TEN APARTMENTS, TWO 30% INCOME, THE REST OF THEM IS FOR HIGH
10:57:17AM INCOME.
10:57:18AM SO WE ARE STILL BEING LEFT BEHIND.
10:57:21AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
10:57:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. HEARNS, I DON'T THINK YOU HEARD ME
10:57:25AM EARLIER, I HOPE YOU GOT MS. CURTIS' HISTORY ON TAPE.
10:57:30AM SOUNDS LIKE SHE HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT HER LIFE IN
10:57:33AM THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:57:34AM THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
10:57:35AM WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
10:57:36AM PUBLIC SAFETY, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ITEMS 3-5.
10:57:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:41AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:57:42AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:57:44AM OPPOSED?
10:57:44AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:57:45AM NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN
10:57:47AM HURTAK.
10:57:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SEPARATE VOTE FOR
10:57:53AM NUMBER 9.
10:57:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PULL 9 FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
10:57:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE WE DO THIS, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO
10:58:01AM SPEAK.
10:58:01AM ONE OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTERS TALKED ABOUT THE SULPHUR
10:58:04AM SPRINGS RESTORATION.
10:58:05AM I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE.
10:58:08AM THIS $1.8 MILLION GOES TO RENOVATE OR TO FIX THE SEAWALL AND
10:58:12AM TO DO SOME OF THE INJECTIONS OF THEY CALL IT MORTAR TO GO
10:58:20AM UNDER THE POOL TO HELP STABILIZE IT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.
10:58:23AM THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING FOR.
10:58:25AM THIS WILL GET STARTED.
10:58:27AM AND WE WILL SEE WHERE WE ARE AFTER THAT.
10:58:29AM BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY MOVING ALONG.
10:58:33AM ENGINEERS TAKE A WHILE.
10:58:34AM I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT.
10:58:36AM ALSO, THERE IS A SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL COMMITTEE TO
10:58:40AM DEFINITELY SEARCH FOR THEM.
10:58:42AM IF I COULD GET MS. SCHARF TO COME OUT.
10:58:47AM MY AIDE WILL MEET YOU AND LET YOU KNOW WHO IS IN CHARGE SO
10:58:50AM YOU CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
10:58:51AM I MOVE ITEMS 6 THROUGH 14 BUT NOT 9.
10:58:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:58:57AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:58:58AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:59:00AM OPPOSED?
10:59:00AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:59:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOW I MOVE ITEM 9.
10:59:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE
10:59:07AM ITEM 9.
10:59:08AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:59:10AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
10:59:12AM OPPOSED?
10:59:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: NAY.
10:59:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLERK, CAN YOU READ THAT VOTE?
10:59:19AM >>THE CLERK: THE ITEM PASSES WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
10:59:25AM VOTING NO.
10:59:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE MOVING ON TO INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:59:27AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:59:29AM PULLED ITEM 20.
10:59:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS -- I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE
10:59:40AM ITEMS 15 THROUGH 21, MINUS 20 BECAUSE IT WAS PULLED AND FOR
10:59:45AM 15, THAT IS A BEAUT.
10:59:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:59:49AM MANISCALCO.
10:59:50AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:59:51AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:59:53AM OPPOSED?
10:59:53AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:59:54AM HEAR ITEM 20 AS FIRST STAFF REPORT.
10:59:57AM FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:59:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 22-25.
11:00:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:00:03AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:00:04AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:00:06AM OPPOSED?
11:00:06AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:00:07AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE.
11:00:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FOR NUMBER 33 AND
11:00:14AM FILE A FORM LATER.
11:00:15AM MY COMPANY WORKS WITH A COMPANY THAT'S RELATED TO THIS.
11:00:18AM I'LL RECUSE MYSELF.
11:00:19AM I MOVE 26 THROUGH 32 AND THEN 34 THROUGH 35.
11:00:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
11:00:28AM FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:00:29AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:00:31AM OPPOSED?
11:00:31AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
11:00:33AM FOR ITEM 33, WE ARE PULLING THAT SEPARATELY.
11:00:38AM THAT WOULD BE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:00:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEM 33.
11:00:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MOVING
11:00:44AM ITEM 33.
11:00:45AM SECOND FROM VIERA.
11:00:46AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:00:47AM OPPOSED?
11:00:47AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:00:48AM MOBILITY ASSET MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE --
11:00:53AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
11:00:55AM ABSTAINING.
11:00:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FILE THE FORM LATER.
11:01:00AM MOBILITY ASSET COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, 36-43.
11:01:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 36-43.
11:01:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:01:11AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:01:12AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:01:15AM OPPOSED?
11:01:15AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:01:16AM COUNCILWOMAN.
11:01:20AM LIKE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:01:27AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 AND 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:01:38AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:01:39AM OPPOSED?
11:01:39AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:01:41AM I HAD A SECOND ON THAT AS WELL.
11:01:43AM I THINK IT WAS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:01:44AM 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:01:46AM HERE WE ARE.
11:01:47AM ITEM NUMBER 44.
11:01:51AM >> ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, PRESENTING FILE
11:01:54AM VAC-24-12, FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:01:58AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:01:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:02:04AM >> TERESA McNEIL.
11:02:07AM I AM THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
11:02:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:02:17AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:02:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:02:21AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:02:23AM OPPOSED?
11:02:23AM THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM IS OUT.
11:02:25AM WE'LL HAVE TO DO A VERBAL ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:02:30AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:02:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 44.
11:02:35AM [INAUDIBLE]
11:02:38AM -- SUBDIVISION RECORDED IN BOOK 4169, PAGE 1044, OF THE
11:02:54AM OFFICIAL RECORDS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, O.R., AND
11:03:00AM A PORTION OF GREEN AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT LIES IN THE PLAT
11:03:09AM OF BROBSTON-FENDING COMPANY'S HALFWAY ADDITION AS RECORDED
11:03:13AM IN O.R. PLAT BOOK 2 AT PAGE 78, AND A PORTION OF THE UNNAMED
11:03:18AM AND UNPLATTED RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT ABUTS INTERBAY BOULEVARD IN
11:03:22AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, ALL OF WHICH ARE LOCATED NORTH OF INTERBAY
11:03:26AM BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF THORNTON AVENUE, EAST OF 1st STREET,
11:03:30AM AND WEST OF ELKINS AVENUE AND ARE MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
11:03:34AM SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
11:03:39AM AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
11:03:42AM PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
11:03:44AM PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING
11:03:47AM CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
11:03:49AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:03:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:03:52AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:03:54AM CLERK, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
11:03:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:03:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:04:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:04:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:04:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:04:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:04:08AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:04:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:04:12AM ITEM 45.
11:04:13AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
11:04:16AM PRESENTING FILE VAC 25-07 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:04:20AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:04:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:04:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S ON BECAUSE I LEFT IT ON.
11:04:33AM IF WE TAKE A VOTE, NEED ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.
11:04:36AM LOOKING AND TWO NOES ON THIS ONE.
11:04:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S TAKE A STRATEGIC JEOPARDY PAUSE.
11:04:46AM APPLICANT?
11:04:52AM >> I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:04:53AM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:04:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE
11:04:57AM APPLICANT?
11:04:58AM HEARING NO QUESTIONS, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT IS HERE TO
11:05:00AM SPEAK TO ITEM 45?
11:05:01AM HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:05:04AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:05:06AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
11:05:07AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:05:08AM OPPOSED?
11:05:08AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 45?
11:05:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:05:12AM FILE NUMBER VAC-25-07, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:05:16AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:05:19AM FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING
11:05:21AM THE ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF ABDELLA STREET, SOUTH OF DEWEY
11:05:25AM STREET AND EAST OF MATANZAS AVENUE, AND WEST OF MacDILL
11:05:29AM AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF JOHN H. DREW'S FIRST EXTENSION IN
11:05:36AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE
11:05:38AM FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
11:05:41AM COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY
11:05:44AM SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES
11:05:47AM FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS
11:05:49AM AND REPEALING CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
11:05:49AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:05:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:05:49AM MANISCALCO, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:05:49AM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:05:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:05:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:05:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:05:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:05:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:05:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
11:05:57AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND CLENDENIN
11:06:00AM VOTING NO.
11:06:01AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:06:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
11:06:04AM ITEM 46.
11:06:05AM JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WAS ABSENT AT THIS VOTE, BUT I
11:06:09AM REVIEWED THE RECORD AND I'M READY TO VOTE.
11:06:14AM >> MALORY LAGASSE, REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
11:06:17AM AGENDA ITEM 46 IS THE SECOND READING FOR THE HONORARY NAMING
11:06:20AM OF THE MULTISPORT FIELD AT FOREST HILLS PARK IN HONOR OF
11:06:29AM ROLAND PAZ, SENIOR.
11:06:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?
11:06:32AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 46?
11:06:35AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM HURTAK, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
11:06:38AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:06:39AM OPPOSED?
11:06:40AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ONE?
11:06:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS A COUNCILWOMAN, YES, I WILL.
11:06:46AM FILE HN25-15718, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:06:56AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:06:59AM FLORIDA, APPROVING THE NAME OF THE MULTI-SPORTS FIELD AT
11:07:02AM FOREST HILLS PARK IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO HONOR ROLAND PAZ
11:07:06AM SENIOR, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:07:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
11:07:11AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:07:14AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:07:15AM OPPOSED?
11:07:16AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:07:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR READING THAT MOTION.
11:07:22AM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:07:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:07:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:07:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:07:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:07:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:07:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:07:33AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:07:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 47 TO NOVEMBER 6,
11:07:40AM 2025, 10:30 A.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA,
11:07:43AM FLORIDA, 33602.
11:07:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE FROM COUNCILMAN
11:07:46AM MANISCALCO.
11:07:46AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:07:48AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:07:49AM OPPOSED?
11:07:50AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:07:51AM ITEM 48.
11:07:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
11:07:57AM McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:08:00AM ITEM 48 ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE
11:08:04AM ADOPTION OF THE CITY'S ANNUAL NON-AD VALOREM STORMWATER
11:08:08AM SERVICE ASSESSMENT ROLL.
11:08:11AM THE PURPOSE OF THE ASSESSMENT IS TO GENERATE FUNDS TO BE
11:08:14AM UTILIZED BY THE CITY'S STORMWATER UTILITY IN THE PROVISION
11:08:16AM OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
11:08:17AM TO DEVELOP PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN INCORPORATED BOUNDARIES
11:08:21AM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE CITY'S
11:08:24AM STORMWATER SERVICE AREA.
11:08:25AM AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS ASSESSMENT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN
11:08:30AM 2003.
11:08:31AM THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT RATE THIS YEAR IS $82 PER ESU,
11:08:35AM EQUIVALENT STORMWATER UNIT, AND HAS REMAINED THE SAME SINCE
11:08:39AM 2015.
11:08:40AM NO WRITTEN OBJECTIONS OR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT HAVE BEEN
11:08:43AM RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM.
11:08:45AM AS WITH ALL NON-AD VALOREM HEARINGS, PLEASE RECALL THAT THE
11:08:52AM VOTE NEEDS TO OCCUR WHILE THE HEARING IS STILL OPEN.
11:08:55AM STAFF AND I ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:09:00AM PLEASE ALSO REMEMBER TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:09:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:09:03AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:09:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO ASK AGAIN, IS THERE ANY CHANGE
11:09:11AM IN THE RATE?
11:09:12AM >>McLANE EVANS: NO, THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE RATE.
11:09:15AM IT HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE 2015.
11:09:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:09:18AM I LIKE TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
11:09:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
11:09:23AM ON ITEM 48?
11:09:24AM PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:09:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:09:30AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:09:32AM I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THESE FUNDS ARE ONLY SPENT ON
11:09:36AM STORMWATER SERVICES.
11:09:37AM I WAS INFORMED BY SOMEBODY IN THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT THAT
11:09:40AM SHE SAID THAT THE FEES REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED SINCE WHATEVER
11:09:44AM YEAR IT WAS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THAT THEY DIDN'T TAKE
11:09:47AM INTO ACCOUNT FOR SALARY INCREASES.
11:09:48AM SO MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT IN PUTTING
11:09:52AM THAT INTO PLACE.
11:09:53AM I ACTUALLY HAD A REALLY NICE LADY WHO CAME TO ME YESTERDAY,
11:09:56AM AND SHE ASKED ME IF SHE HAD A ROW OF TOWNHOMES.
11:10:02AM SOME OF THEM PAID TWO ASSESSMENTS.
11:10:04AM THERE WERE SEVEN TOWNHOMES.
11:10:06AM SOME OF THEM PAID TWO ASSESSMENTS AND THE OTHER FIVE ONLY
11:10:10AM PAID ONE.
11:10:11AM I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHY THAT WOULD BE.
11:10:14AM WE'LL DIG FURTHER.
11:10:15AM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STORMWATER PEOPLE ARE
11:10:17AM WORKING ONLY ON STORMWATER.
11:10:19AM THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.
11:10:22AM AND THAT STORMWATER IS ONLY PAYING FOR STORMWATER PEOPLE
11:10:25AM BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO
11:10:27AM WERE IN THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WHO WERE BEING PAID WITH
11:10:30AM STORMWATER.
11:10:30AM I'M ALL FOR THIS.
11:10:33AM IF WE HAVE TO RAISE IT TO HELP PEOPLE'S HOUSES NOT GET
11:10:37AM FLOODED, THEN MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO.
11:10:40AM BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT STORMWATER IS BEING SPENT FOR
11:10:43AM STORMWATER AND NOTHING ELSE.
11:10:44AM THANK YOU.
11:10:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
11:10:47AM STATE YOUR NAME.
11:10:50AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
11:10:51AM FIRST, THANKS TO HAGAR FOR DOING THE DEEP DIVE INTO THE
11:10:56AM STORMWATER FUNDING ISSUES AND ALLOCATIONS.
11:10:59AM IT'S APPARENT THAT MAINTENANCE IS A SERIOUS AND CONTINUING
11:11:05AM ISSUE, AND WE'VE AVOIDED IT FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT'S
11:11:10AM IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD TO HAVE A WORK PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES
11:11:12AM ON MAINTENANCE FIRST BEFORE WE START UNDERTAKING MAJOR
11:11:16AM CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
11:11:17AM IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND APPEARS THROUGH THE RESEARCH
11:11:24AM THAT A WHOLE GROUP OF TEAMS OF NEIGHBORS AND BUSINESSES HAVE
11:11:27AM CONDUCTED THAT SOME OF THE STORMWATER FACILITIES ARE NOT
11:11:30AM FUNCTIONING, HAVEN'T FUNCTIONED, AND WON'T FUNCTION WITHOUT
11:11:34AM SERIOUS MAINTENANCE BEING CONDUCTED.
11:11:36AM IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD, AND
11:11:41AM HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL WILL CONTINUE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AND
11:11:45AM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN FOR SETTING UP A SEPARATE MEETING ON
11:11:50AM MONDAY.
11:11:50AM I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE AN OVERFLOWING CROWD.
11:11:53AM ANYWAY, APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S ACTION.
11:11:55AM AS I SAY, GOING FORWARD, AN UNDERSTANDABLE WORK PROGRAM
11:11:59AM REGARDING MAINTENANCE SHOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY AND
11:12:04AM HAVING THE SPECIFIC MANPOWER AND EQUIPMENT TO CONDUCT THAT
11:12:08AM MAINTENANCE IS THE SECOND PART OF THAT.
11:12:10AM ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
11:12:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:12:12AM ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
11:12:14AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THIS ONE YET.
11:12:16AM WE KEEP THIS ONE OPEN BECAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE THE
11:12:19AM RESOLUTION.
11:12:19AM I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE THE
11:12:21AM RESOLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM 48.
11:12:23AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:12:24AM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:12:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:12:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:12:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:12:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:12:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:12:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:12:34AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:12:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:12:36AM ITEM 49.
11:12:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING,
11:12:40AM PLEASE.
11:12:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
11:12:42AM HEARING.
11:12:42AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:12:44AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:12:46AM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
11:12:48AM OPPOSED?
11:12:48AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:12:49AM WE CAN REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:12:51AM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO REOPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND
11:12:54AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
11:12:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S ALREADY BEEN OPENED BY MOTION.
11:13:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:02AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
11:13:04AM OPPOSED?
11:13:04AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:13:08AM >>McLANE EVANS: McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
11:13:11AM AGAIN.
11:13:11AM ITEM 49 ON YOUR AGENDA IS THE HEARING TO ADOPT THE ANNUAL
11:13:14AM ROLL FOR THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
11:13:17AM AS YOU MAY RECALL, THIS ASSESSMENT WAS ADOPTED IN 2019 FOR
11:13:21AM THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WITHIN
11:13:24AM THE CENTRAL AND LOWER BASIN AREA.
11:13:26AM IT WAS IMPLEMENTED WITH A SCALED TIER APPROACH UNTIL THE
11:13:29AM FULL RATE OF $89.55 PER ESU WAS REACHED IN 2021.
11:13:34AM IT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME.
11:13:36AM THE RATE FOR THIS YEAR IS STILL $89.55 PER ESU.
11:13:42AM NO WRITTEN OBJECTIONS OR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT WERE
11:13:44AM RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM.
11:13:47AM AGAIN, PLEASE REMEMBER TO VOTE WHILE THE HEARING IS STILL
11:13:50AM OPEN.
11:13:50AM STAFF AND I ARE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:13:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:13:54AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:13:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHE STATED IT TWICE.
11:13:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
11:14:01AM TO ITEM 49?
11:14:02AM STATE YOUR NAME.
11:14:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:14:11AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:14:12AM IT'S FUNNY THAT MR. MICHELINI AND I RARELY AGREE BUT IN THIS
11:14:17AM PARTICULAR SITUATION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT
11:14:19AM THAT WE COULD FIX THE WINDOW THAT DOESN'T ROLL UP AND DOWN.
11:14:24AM WE CAN FIX THE BELT SQUEAKING ON OUR CAR.
11:14:28AM WE CAN FIX THE LITTLE BUMP IN THE BUMPER FOR A REASONABLE
11:14:35AM PRICE.
11:14:36AM BUT THAT SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT, THAT'S US GOING OUT
11:14:40AM AND BUYING A NEW MERCEDES WITHOUT REALLY THINKING ABOUT IT
11:14:44AM FIRST.
11:14:44AM IF YOU ACTUALLY CLEAN OUT THE DITCHES, MAKE SURE THE PUMPING
11:14:49AM STATIONS WORK THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO, MAYBE BUILD A
11:14:52AM NEW PUMPING STATION OR TWO, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY TRUE
11:14:57AM EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
11:15:00AM MR. BHIDE WAS NOT A STORMWATER EXPERT.
11:15:03AM WE HAVE SOME STORMWATER EXPERTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM
11:15:08AM TESTIFY THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
11:15:12AM IF IT WAS REALLY AND TRULY THE BEST PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF
11:15:16AM TAMPA, YOU KNOW I WOULD BE DOWN FOR IT.
11:15:18AM BUT IT STINKS.
11:15:21AM IT STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN.
11:15:24AM WHO WANTS IT?
11:15:25AM WHY DO THEY WANT IT?
11:15:27AM WHOSE POCKETBOOKS IS GETTING FILLED UP?
11:15:29AM WHOSE ISN'T?
11:15:30AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:15:31AM BUT TO FIX THE WINDOW ON THE CAR, INSTEAD OF GOING AND
11:15:34AM BUYING A MERCEDES, WE NEED TO FIX IT FOR EVERYBODY.
11:15:38AM AND THE PROBLEM IS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE DON'T WANT A
11:15:41AM NEW CAR.
11:15:42AM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE DON'T WANT THE NEW CAR.
11:15:45AM NOW, YOU HAVE SOME WHO DID.
11:15:46AM SOME WHO DIDN'T BUY FLOOD INSURANCE EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE ON
11:15:49AM A PENINSULA IN A STORM PRONE AREA.
11:15:51AM I LIVE ON A PENINSULA IN A STORM PRONE AREA AND I HAVE FLOOD
11:15:54AM INSURANCE SINCE THE DAY I BOUGHT MY HOUSE.
11:15:56AM I WOULD NEVER LIVE HERE WITHOUT FLOOD INSURANCE.
11:15:59AM BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.
11:16:01AM WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON ONE PROJECT THAT
11:16:04AM NOBODY CAN DEFINITIVELY SHOW IS A PERFECT PROJECT THAT WOULD
11:16:09AM FIX ANYTHING.
11:16:10AM LET'S SPREAD THE LOVE AND SPREAD THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
11:16:16AM MONEY AND FIX THE SMALL POCKETS WHERE IT COULD BE FIXED.
11:16:19AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOMEBODY CAME IN HERE AND NAMED THREE
11:16:22AM STREETS IN MY COMMUNITY A MONTH OR SO AGO.
11:16:24AM I SAW ON NEXT DOOR THIS MORNING THAT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS
11:16:27AM HAS PUT IN FOR THOSE STORMWATER DRAINS DOWN THERE TO BE
11:16:30AM CLEANED THREE DIFFERENT TIMES AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DONE
11:16:32AM YET.
11:16:33AM SO LET'S LOOK AT THE PRACTICALITY OF LET'S SPEND ALL OUR
11:16:37AM MONEY, PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET OR SPREAD IT OUT AND
11:16:41AM HELP EVERYBODY, NOT JUST ONE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:16:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:16:44AM >> THANK YOU.
11:16:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE YOUR NAME.
11:16:46AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
11:16:48AM AGAIN, THE CAPITAL PROJECTS NEED TO BE DIVIDED UP INTO
11:16:52AM ACHIEVABLE POCKETS.
11:16:56AM A MASSIVE PROJECT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
11:16:59AM ALL IT DOES IS TRANSFER IT TO A BIGGER PROJECT THAT PROBABLY
11:17:03AM WILL NOT SOLVE ANY OF THE PROBLEMS.
11:17:06AM YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE STORMWATER FLOODING.
11:17:09AM I AGREE WITH STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:17:12AM THE ISSUE IS FIX THE AREAS THAT FLOOD AND DESIGN PROJECTS
11:17:18AM THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THOSE AREAS.
11:17:20AM YOU DON'T NEED A MASSIVE PROJECT, AS SHE POINTED OUT, THAT'S
11:17:26AM NOT JUST THE HOMEOWNERS, IT'S ALL OF THE BUSINESSES AND ALL
11:17:28AM OF THE ASSOCIATED INDUSTRIES THAT CANNOT SUSTAIN A MASSIVE
11:17:33AM PROJECT.
11:17:34AM THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE.
11:17:35AM SO IF IT MEANS PUTTING IN SMALLER PROJECTS WITH THE PUMPS
11:17:40AM AND REDUNDANT BACKUP SYSTEMS, THEN HAVE IT.
11:17:44AM BUT, AGAIN, AS I SAID, THE RESEARCH HAS ALREADY SHOWN THEY
11:17:47AM HAVE PUMPS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN INSPECTED OR MAINTAINED FOR 14
11:17:53AM YEARS, I HAVE SUMP PUMPS IN MY YARD.
11:17:57AM I'M NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE, BUT I HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEM EVERY
11:18:00AM SIX MONTHS.
11:18:01AM I HAVE TO CALL FOR MAINTENANCE.
11:18:02AM IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT, WELL, THEN, GET PEOPLE
11:18:06AM UNDER CONTRACT.
11:18:07AM I KNOW COUNCIL HAS BEEN SENSITIVE TO THAT, BUT GET A
11:18:10AM PERMANENT CONTRACT.
11:18:11AM YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM STORMWATER THAT THEY ARE GOING TO
11:18:15AM ENGAGE IN A SERVICE THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE BACKUP
11:18:18AM GENERATORS, THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERED WHEN
11:18:21AM THERE IS A STORM.
11:18:22AM WELL, I HOPE THAT IS AN IRONCLAD CONTRACT AND WE'RE NOT
11:18:27AM COMPETING WITH OTHER AREAS THAT ALSO NEED GENERATORS OR
11:18:30AM PUMPS.
11:18:31AM THE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
11:18:34AM AGAIN, MAINTENANCE FIRST, CONSTRUCTION SECOND.
11:18:36AM THANK YOU.
11:18:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:18:39AM ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 49?
11:18:42AM MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
11:18:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I MOVE IT, I WANT TO PUT ON
11:18:47AM RECORD THAT I HAVE NEVER AGREED MORE WITH STEPHANIE POYNOR
11:18:50AM THAN AT 11:16 A.M., AUGUST 7.
11:18:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU NEED JESUS.
11:18:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO SHOW.
11:18:58AM I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:19:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:19:02AM MANISCALCO, A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:19:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE AS WELL.
11:19:08AM WE NEED TO STOP THAT BOONDOGGLE PROJECT.
11:19:11AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION PUSHED OUT BY THE
11:19:14AM ADMINISTRATION JUSTIFYING THE STUPID PROJECT.
11:19:16AM IT IS A WASTE OF MONEY.
11:19:17AM IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
11:19:18AM IT'S GOING TO DISRUPT NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES.
11:19:22AM AND THE NASTINESS AND DIRTY POLITICS THAT'S BEEN PUSHED BY
11:19:26AM THE ADMINISTRATION AND A FEW OF THE HOMEOWNERS IS JUST
11:19:28AM DISGUSTING.
11:19:29AM PROPER MAINTENANCE WOULD HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM IN THOSE
11:19:31AM NEIGHBORHOODS, AND PROPER MAINTENANCE GOING FORWARD WILL
11:19:33AM SOLVE IT.
11:19:34AM WE STILL NEED TO GET IN THERE AND FIX THOSE DRAINS AND OTHER
11:19:37AM PROBLEMS.
11:19:38AM I WENT TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THE DAY AFTER THE HURRICANES
11:19:41AM WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
11:19:43AM WHEN THE MAYOR'S PEOPLE WENT IN, SUDDENLY THEY HAD ALL KINDS
11:19:46AM OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND OTHER PROBLEMS.
11:19:49AM WE NEED TO FIX THE REAL PROBLEMS GOING ON AND STOP PEOPLE'S
11:19:51AM HOUSES FROM FLOODING, NOT WASTE MONEY ON A STUPID PROJECT.
11:19:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:19:55AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:19:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M HERE NOT TO DEFEND MYSELF BUT TO SAY
11:19:59AM THIS ADMINISTRATION OR NO OTHER ADMINISTRATION THAT I'VE
11:20:01AM EVER WORKED WITH HAS EVER TOLD ME WHAT THE HELL TO DO WITH
11:20:04AM MY VOTE.
11:20:05AM BECAUSE IF THEY DID, I WOULD TELL THEM TO GO TO HELL,
11:20:09AM PERIOD.
11:20:09AM LET ME CLEAR THAT UP FOR ME.
11:20:11AM I TAKE NONE AND I GIVE LESS.
11:20:15AM I'M VOTING FOR IT BECAUSE THE PROJECT AS I SAW IT DESIGNED,
11:20:21AM ALLEVIATES THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN MOST OF THIS AREA.
11:20:24AM IS IT GOING TO BE ALL OF IT?
11:20:25AM THERE IS NEVER GOING TO BE A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED IN
11:20:29AM THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR ALL OF ANYTHING REGARDING STORMWATER.
11:20:33AM YOU KNOW WHY?
11:20:33AM BECAUSE THE BAY THAT WE HAVE NEXT TO US, AND THE SEA LEVEL
11:20:37AM THAT WE'RE AT, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
11:20:39AM NUMBER TWO, THE AMOUNT OF HEAT TAKEN THIS YEAR, ABOUT 3%
11:20:44AM HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR, THE BAY, THE WATER IS.
11:20:47AM WHAT AM I TO EXPECT? A COUPLE OF DROPS?
11:20:51AM OR FULL-BLOWN HURRICANE?
11:20:54AM WE'RE LUCKY THAT THAT HURRICANE, BOTH THAT HIT LAST TIME,
11:20:57AM DID NOT HIT US DIRECT BECAUSE THE WATER WENT OUT INSTEAD OF
11:21:02AM COMING IN.
11:21:03AM IF IT WAS TO COME IN, YOU AND I WOULDN'T BE SPEAKING HERE
11:21:06AM TODAY.
11:21:06AM WE WOULD ALL BE FLOODED.
11:21:08AM THE LIFE IS WHAT IT IS.
11:21:09AM WHERE I LIVE IS WHAT IT IS.
11:21:11AM I'M TRYING TO FIX IT AS BEST I CAN.
11:21:14AM SOMETIMES NOTHING IS HUNDRED PERCENT PROOF.
11:21:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY, I'M VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE
11:21:22AM IT IS FOR RENEWAL OF THE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN.
11:21:25AM THIS MONEY, WE'RE NOT VOTING FOR THAT PROJECT OR AGAINST IT.
11:21:29AM WHEN THAT COMES UP, I'LL VOTE AGAINST IT.
11:21:31AM TODAY WE ARE JUST VOTING FOR THE MONEY SO THEY CAN FIND
11:21:34AM SOLUTIONS.
11:21:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION
11:21:36AM FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:21:37AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:21:40AM I NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
11:21:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:21:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:21:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:21:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:21:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:21:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:21:46AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:21:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
11:21:53AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:21:54AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:21:55AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:21:57AM OPPOSED?
11:21:57AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:21:59AM MR. MICHELINI.
11:22:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MICHELINI.
11:22:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
11:22:08AM AT 1:30 --
11:22:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE A 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE
11:22:14AM AGENDA STATES WILL NOT BE HEARD.
11:22:16AM IT IS A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW.
11:22:18AM IS THAT YOUR REQUEST?
11:22:19AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, IT IS.
11:22:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30.
11:22:23AM WE CAN REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL.
11:22:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL
11:22:27AM FROM STEVE MICHELINI FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:22:29AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:22:32AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:22:34AM OPPOSED?
11:22:34AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:22:35AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE.
11:22:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM 20 IS THE FIRST STAFF REPORT THAT WE
11:22:41AM ARE GOING TO HEAR TODAY.
11:22:43AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD THIS OFF?
11:22:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:22:47AM THANK YOU.
11:22:47AM ITEM 20, ON MONDAY, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT TAMPA FIRE
11:22:54AM RESCUE'S FLEET AND SUPPLY, THE LAND WE WANT TO BUY ON
11:22:58AM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
11:22:59AM I ASKED AT THAT TIME WHAT ELSE DID YOU WANT TO PUT ON THE
11:23:04AM PROPERTY, AND THEY WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
11:23:07AM BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS
11:23:10AM AVAILABLE OVER THE WEEKEND AND WE DIDN'T GET THEM UNTIL
11:23:15AM MONDAY, I HADN'T READ IT YET.
11:23:17AM BUT I FOUND IT.
11:23:18AM MS. SCHARF, IF YOU COULD PUT THAT ON.
11:23:23AM THE OTHER THING, IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, THEY WANT TO FIND IS
11:23:24AM THE LOWRY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT STAFFING VEHICLES
11:23:26AM AND TRAILERS AND THE LOWRY PARK FUELING ASSETS.
11:23:30AM A PART OF THE SITE ANALYSIS IS SPACIAL REQUIREMENTS.
11:23:32AM WE FOUND WHAT IT IS THEY ALSO WANT TO PUT THERE.
11:23:34AM PROBLEM IS, WE HAVE HEARD THAT CHIEF TRIPP ASKED FOR TEN
11:23:40AM ACRES.
11:23:41AM THIS NEW PLOT IS ONLY 6.4 ACRES.
11:23:46AM IF IT DOES FIT -- THIS CONTRACT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE
11:23:49AM APPROVING, ITEM NUMBER 20, IS SIMPLY APPROVING $140,000, I
11:23:55AM BELIEVE, CONTRACT TO JUST -- $141,825 CONTRACT TO SEE IF
11:24:04AM THIS IS PLAUSIBLE.
11:24:05AM BUT WHAT THEY DID, THE RFQ ONLY TALKED ABOUT FIRE RESCUE.
11:24:10AM ONLY TALKED ABOUT FLEET AND SUPPLY.
11:24:12AM THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO OnBase THIS WEEK
11:24:17AM INCLUDES THIS.
11:24:18AM LOWRY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT STAFFING VEHICLES AND
11:24:21AM TRAILERS.
11:24:21AM I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THIS IS.
11:24:23AM THIS IS THE EXTRA PIECE OF LAND EAST OF NORTH BOULEVARD
11:24:29AM WHERE CURRENTLY WE HAVE THESE VEHICLES, AND IT IS SLATED FOR
11:24:35AM WHERE -- ZOO TAMPA WANTS TO EXPAND.
11:24:39AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH LOOKING FOR LAND TO MOVE THESE
11:24:46AM VEHICLES, BUT I DO NOT WANT US AS COUNCIL TO BE STUCK IN
11:24:51AM ANOTHER HANNA AVENUE, ANOTHER HOWARD AVENUE, ONE OF THE
11:24:58AM PROBLEMS OF, OH, WELL, MAYBE THIS ONE ISN'T GOING TO BE
11:25:01AM RIGHT FOR FIRE RESCUE, BUT THIS WILL BE PERFECT FOR THIS.
11:25:04AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM BUYING THE LAND EITHER WAY.
11:25:08AM WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS SAYING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT THIS
11:25:13AM FOR LOWRY PARK FUELING AND STAFFING VEHICLES AND TRAILERS.
11:25:18AM I BELIEVE WE SHOULD TAKE THIS LINE OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WORK.
11:25:21AM I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OUR LAWYER THAT THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE.
11:25:25AM SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD WORK BEHIND THE
11:25:29AM SCENES AND GET THIS REMOVED FROM THIS.
11:25:31AM I AM NOT AT ALL SAYING -- LET ME FINISH -- I AM NOT AT ALL
11:25:35AM SAYING THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US MOVING THIS.
11:25:39AM IN FACT, WHEN I TALKED TO CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT IT, I GAVE
11:25:42AM HIM A LOCATION THAT HE COULD LOOK FOR TO PUT THESE TRAILERS
11:25:46AM AND VEHICLES ON.
11:25:47AM I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
11:25:48AM I THINK WE SHOULD GET THIS STUFF OFF OF SOMETHING THAT LEADS
11:25:51AM INTO THE RIVER.
11:25:53AM IT'S CRITICAL.
11:25:54AM BUT IT IS NOT WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
11:25:56AM IT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
11:25:57AM ADDITIONALLY, THIS MORNING, WE GOT AN E-MAIL FROM THE
11:26:03AM PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS UNION THAT CLEARLY
11:26:06AM STATES, THIS WAS SENT AT 9:16 THIS MORNING.
11:26:09AM THIS LAND NEEDS TO REMAIN 100% FOR FIRE AND FIRE ONLY.
11:26:13AM I URGE YOU TO PROTECT THIS INTENT AND REJECT ANY EFFORT TO
11:26:17AM DILUTE ITS PURPOSE.
11:26:18AM WE OWE IT TO TAMPA FIRE TO FOCUS ONLY ON THIS.
11:26:23AM AGAIN, THIS IS A SIX-MONTH STUDY.
11:26:26AM MS. FEELEY CAME UP TO US AND SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE
11:26:30AM ON THIS PROPERTY IN A MONTH.
11:26:33AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM BUYING THE PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE FOCUSED ON
11:26:36AM FIRE RIGHT NOW.
11:26:38AM AND IF WE AGREE TO THIS, MY FEAR IS THAT WE WILL THEN MOVE
11:26:43AM AND HAVE THIS PROPERTY ONLY POSSIBLY FOR THE LOWRY PARK AND
11:26:47AM WE WILL BE STUCK AT GROUND ZERO AND HAVE TO START ALL OVER
11:26:52AM AGAIN FOR LAND FOR FLEET AND SUPPLY.
11:26:54AM THIS IS MY CONCERN.
11:26:56AM THIS ADMINISTRATION TALKS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
11:26:59AM WHEN I ASKED ON MONDAY WHAT ELSE COULD BE PUT ON IT, WE WERE
11:27:03AM NOT TOLD THIS.
11:27:04AM I HAD TO FIND IT AND READ IT IN DOCUMENTATION.
11:27:08AM THAT TO ME IS NOT TRANSPARENCY, AND THAT IS NOT THIS
11:27:12AM COUNCIL'S STATED GOAL OF FOCUSING ON FIRE AND FINDING A
11:27:16AM PLACE FOR FLEET AND SUPPLY.
11:27:18AM I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LOWRY PARK NEEDS LAND.
11:27:22AM I GET IT.
11:27:23AM AGAIN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
11:27:26AM WE CAN KEEP LOOKING.
11:27:27AM WE CAN BUY ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND.
11:27:29AM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS PIECE OF LAND.
11:27:30AM I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO THE FIRE, FIRE ADMINISTRATION,
11:27:36AM FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE COUNTING ON US TO FIND THEM A PLACE FOR
11:27:41AM FLEET AND SUPPLIES SO WE CAN FIX THEIR STATIONS.
11:27:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOME OF THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO ME.
11:27:46AM BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING
11:27:48AM ON FOR OVER TWO YEARS.
11:27:50AM I WANT TO RESTATE WHAT THIS LANGUAGE SAYS.
11:27:52AM IT SAYS THAT THE SITE ANALYSIS AND SPATIAL REQUIREMENTS.
11:27:57AM IT'S NOT SAYING -- MAYBE CHIEF BENNETT WOULD BE ABLE TO
11:28:00AM PROVIDE MORE CLARIFICATION -- IT'S JUST AN ANALYSIS AND
11:28:04AM SPACE REQUIREMENTS AND EVALUATING THIS.
11:28:07AM THEY ARE NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
11:28:09AM WITHOUT SOME OF THAT IN THERE, IT WON'T HAPPEN.
11:28:13AM MAYBE CHIEF BENNETT CAN PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE
11:28:16AM GO ON.
11:28:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE TO LEAVE IN TWO MINUTES.
11:28:20AM I DID WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS TO SUPPORT IT.
11:28:22AM JUST WHENEVER CHIEF, IF I MAY.
11:28:26AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:28:28AM I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT TO 15 SECONDS.
11:28:30AM THIS IS 100% ON ME.
11:28:32AM WHEN THAT PROPERTY CAME AVAILABLE FOR EVALUATION FOR FIRE
11:28:35AM FLEET AND WAREHOUSING, I ASKED THE TEAM THROUGH CAD, I SAID
11:28:40AM JUST LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY AS YOU GO THROUGH TO SEE IF WE
11:28:44AM COULD GET OFF THAT PROPERTY.
11:28:46AM THEN I WENT BACK INTO A SECONDARY MEETING AND I MADE SURE
11:28:49AM THAT EVERYBODY WORKING ON THIS PROJECT KNEW THAT, NUMBER ONE
11:28:52AM WAS FIRE FLEET AND THE WAREHOUSE.
11:28:54AM AND ONLY IF, WITH A TEAR LINE, IF LOWRY PARK CAN'T GO THERE,
11:29:00AM WE'LL FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT.
11:29:02AM NO IDEA HOW MANY ACRES IT WAS.
11:29:04AM IT WAS A VERY SIMPLE FEASIBILITY REQUEST THAT WORKED ITS WAY
11:29:07AM INTO THE SCOPE.
11:29:08AM BUT 1,000% -- I SAY THIS IN FRONT OF THE FIRE CHIEF, IN
11:29:11AM FRONT OF CAD, IN FRONT OF LAM -- THAT IS ONLY FOR FIRE FLEET
11:29:16AM AND FIRE WAREHOUSING AS A PRIMARY FOCUS.
11:29:20AM FOR SOME REASON WE HAVE ROOM, INCLUDING SOME OTHER THINGS
11:29:23AM THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS TO THIS, LET US
11:29:26AM KNOW.
11:29:26AM AND THAT'S AS FAR AS IT WENT.
11:29:28AM HOW IT GOT FORMALIZED FROM THERE IS THE PROJECT SIDE OF THE
11:29:32AM EQUATION.
11:29:32AM I AGREE, I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE COMMON THEME OF THE HIGHEST
11:29:35AM BEST USE OF PROPERTY FOR LOWRY.
11:29:38AM AND WE CAN LOOK FOR OTHER THINGS IF IT DOESN'T FIT.
11:29:40AM BUT IT WAS A GENUINE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE WITH LESS.
11:29:43AM THAT'S ALL.
11:29:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE
11:29:48AM SCOPE OF WORK?
11:29:51AM >>JOHN BENNETT: ONLY IF IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, OF COURSE, I
11:29:54AM WOULD.
11:29:55AM BECAUSE THE PRIORITY IS FIRE AND FIRE WAREHOUSING.
11:29:57AM BUT IF FOR SOME REASON THROUGH VALUE ENGINEERING -- I MEAN,
11:30:01AM I LOOK AT THE CITY AS A TEAM SPORT TRYING TO MAKE SURE LAND
11:30:05AM USE IS AVAILABLE FOR ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE, BUT I'M NOT
11:30:09AM THE END STATE.
11:30:10AM I'M NOT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.
11:30:11AM ALL I ASKED FOR IS FEASIBILITY.
11:30:13AM IF I TAKE IT OUT OR WE ASK TO TAKE IT OUT, IT WILL
11:30:16AM AUTOMATICALLY GET TAKEN OUT IF IT DOESN'T WORK.
11:30:18AM IT WAS REALLY, BEFORE THEY HAD A PROJECT MANAGER, IT WAS CAD
11:30:23AM THAT I ASKED TO SEE THE FEASIBILITY.
11:30:26AM IF THEY CAME BACK AND SAID NO, EVEN IN THE PRELIMINARY, IT
11:30:28AM WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER.
11:30:30AM ALWAYS WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS SEE IF THERE WAS ENOUGH ROOM
11:30:33AM TO FREE UP THAT PROPERTY.
11:30:34AM IF NOT, THEN WE WILL LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
11:30:36AM WE KNEW LOWRY PARK FOR HISTORY WAS NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST
11:30:40AM USE OF THE LAND FOR WHATEVER WE END UP DOING WITH IT.
11:30:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I DON'T DISAGREE.
11:30:45AM THE POINT IS, I ASKED ABOUT THIS MONDAY AND NO ONE WOULD
11:30:48AM GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
11:30:50AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
11:30:51AM BECAUSE THERE WAS NO HIDDEN AGENDA HERE.
11:30:53AM IT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION FROM DAY ONE INTERNALLY.
11:30:57AM I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP.
11:30:59AM THAT'S WHY I'M HERE RIGHT NOW TELLING YOU, THIS WAS ON ME.
11:31:02AM I ASKED FOR IT FROM DAY ONE TO BE STUDIED AS A FEASIBILITY
11:31:06AM ONLY.
11:31:06AM BUT THE PRIORITY WAS, HOPEFULLY THE CHIEF WOULD COME UP
11:31:10AM BECAUSE I WAS TALKING TO HER FACE TO FACE ABOUT NUMBER ONE
11:31:12AM FIRE FLEET.
11:31:13AM NUMBER TWO, WAREHOUSING.
11:31:15AM ONLY IF THERE IS ROOM WE'LL CONSIDER MOVING THE FUNCTIONS.
11:31:19AM STAFF HAS BEEN LOOKING AT -- BUT ALSO A GOOD EXERCISE, EVEN
11:31:22AM WITHOUT THIS PROPERTY, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND
11:31:25AM SEE IF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, TO YOUR POINT OF THERE OR
11:31:28AM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:31:28AM WE'RE ALL ABOUT IT, BUT THE FOCUS AND THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE
11:31:31AM THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE LOWRY PROPERTY PARK.
11:31:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: I APOLOGIZE.
11:31:37AM I GOT TO GO TO TURKEY CREEK MIDDLE SCHOOL I THINK IT IN
11:31:40AM PLANT CITY FOR SPECIAL NEEDS THING.
11:31:42AM REALLY FAST, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO
11:31:45AM SUPPORT YOU ON THIS.
11:31:46AM A COUPLE OF THINGS REALLY FAST WITH REGARDS TO THE HISTORY
11:31:49AM OF THIS, THIS CAME ABOUT AFTER 2023.
11:31:52AM SOME OF THESE ISSUES WERE IN THE BUDGET.
11:31:54AM COULDN'T GET THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR IT.
11:31:56AM THEN WE MOVED TO BOND FOR IT.
11:31:58AM IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BONDING FOR
11:32:02AM LOWRY PARK -- AGAIN, NOTHING AGAINST LOWRY PARK, THEY ARE
11:32:05AM WONDERFUL.
11:32:05AM I GREW UP GOING THERE, TOOK MY SON THERE.
11:32:08AM SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART.
11:32:09AM BUT SHOULDN'T BE BONDING FOR THAT AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD
11:32:12AM STUFF.
11:32:13AM AND THEN JUST AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO PAY
11:32:16AM EXTRA CLOSE ATTENTION TO.
11:32:18AM OBVIOUSLY, CHIEF BENNETT AND EVERYBODY IS VERY, VERY HONEST,
11:32:21AM BUT HAVING LIVED THROUGH THE APOCALYPSE NOW WITH FIRE
11:32:25AM STATIONS, FIRE STATION 24, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE HUNDRED
11:32:29AM PERCENT.
11:32:29AM THIS PROVIDES THE KEY TO FREEING UP STATION 9.
11:32:33AM COUNCIL, I LITERALLY HAVE TO GO.
11:32:34AM IF THERE IS A VOTE ON THIS WHERE I'M NEEDED, I CAN BE BACK
11:32:37AM AT 1:30 OR WHATEVER.
11:32:39AM BUT I HAVE TO GO.
11:32:40AM MY APOLOGIES SINCERELY.
11:32:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHIEF BENNETT.
11:32:44AM >>JOHN BENNETT: TWO COMMITMENTS TO COUNCIL, NUMBER ONE,
11:32:47AM THERE WAS NEVER AN INTENTION TO BOND ANYTHING OUT OF THE
11:32:50AM SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
11:32:52AM NUMBER TWO, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE MINUTE THIS IS NOT
11:32:56AM FEASIBLE, IT'S OVER.
11:32:57AM IT WAS JUST -- IT WAS REALLY A STRONG CURIOSITY TO SEE IF WE
11:33:01AM COULD FIND AN ADD THAT WASN'T TO DISPLACE.
11:33:04AM I WENT OUT TO STATION 9.
11:33:06AM I WALKED THROUGH THERE.
11:33:07AM WALKED THROUGH THE REHAB.
11:33:08AM I'M VERY GROUND ZERO KIND OF PERSON.
11:33:12AM ALL I DID WHEN THIS STARTED, SEE IF IT WILL WORK.
11:33:16AM THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF IT.
11:33:18AM IT BECAME A SCOPE.
11:33:20AM A PART OF THE PLOT PLAN IF YOU WILL.
11:33:22AM NO INTENTION TO BOND, AND IF IT DOESN'T -- IF IT'S NOT ABLE
11:33:25AM TO BE HANDLED WITHIN ITS COMPARTMENTALIZED PORTFOLIO, EITHER
11:33:31AM FINANCING, SPACE, WHATEVER ELSE, THEN IT COMES OFF.
11:33:34AM IT WAS JUST AN IDEA TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE HIGHEST AND
11:33:37AM BEST USE OF OUR LAND.
11:33:39AM THAT'S IT.
11:33:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'VE BEEN INVOLVED.
11:33:45AM THERE IS MISINFORMATION HERE.
11:33:47AM A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPENING.
11:33:49AM THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE ZOO.
11:33:52AM THIS IS ABOUT THE PUBLIC LAND, THE RECREATION LAND ALONG THE
11:33:56AM RIVER THAT IS LOWRY PARK, IN A NEGLECTED NEIGHBORHOOD, AREA
11:34:00AM NOT SEEN ANY INVESTMENT, THAT SOME DECISIONS DECADES AND
11:34:03AM DECADES AGO DECIDED TO USE IT BASICALLY AS A DUMPING GROUND
11:34:08AM IN SOMEBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
11:34:10AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS WALKED THERE, THERE IS A
11:34:13AM BEAUTIFUL, NATURAL SPRING RIGHT THERE BY THIS THING.
11:34:16AM IT COULD BE A WONDERFUL CROWN JEWEL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:34:20AM THIS PARK.
11:34:21AM AGAIN, IT'S IN ONE OF THESE NEGLECTED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE
11:34:23AM CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT INVESTED IN.
11:34:27AM THERE IS COINCIDENTALLY, SOMETHING THE ZOO AS A PROPOSAL
11:34:29AM THAT POSSIBLY SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE, NOT MOVING FORWARD AS
11:34:32AM FAR AS I KNOW RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT
11:34:34AM PROPERTY AS EXPANSION PROPERTY.
11:34:36AM BUT JUST TAKING INTO FACT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A DUMP, AND
11:34:43AM REALLY HEAVY, HEAVY UTILIZATION IN A SPECTACULAR AREA OF
11:34:48AM TOWN ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, REFUELING VEHICLES AROUND
11:34:52AM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
11:34:54AM IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY JUST RIDICULOUS.
11:34:57AM WHAT THIS PROPOSAL WAS, IS ALL ABOUT FLEET AND FIRE
11:35:01AM MAINTENANCE.
11:35:02AM WHEN THEY PROCURED THE PROPERTY, ALL THEY HAVE IN THE
11:35:05AM LANGUAGE, I WANT TO RIGHT-SET THIS.
11:35:06AM THE LANGUAGE IS JUST ABOUT AN ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY.
11:35:10AM IT'S NOT COMMITTING TO BUILD ANYTHING.
11:35:12AM IT IS JUST LOOKING AT THE SCOPE AND SCALE.
11:35:14AM IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IT DOESN'T WORK.
11:35:16AM FLEET AND FIRE MAINTENANCE IS NUMBER ONE.
11:35:18AM NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE, NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER
11:35:22AM FIVE.
11:35:22AM WHEN THEY DO THE ANALYSIS, IF IT WORKS, IT WORKS, IF IT
11:35:26AM DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T.
11:35:27AM WE'LL LOOK ELSE WHERE TO TAKE THIS STUFF OFF OF LOWRY PARK.
11:35:31AM THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN KEEP YOUR OPTIONS OPEN.
11:35:33AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
11:35:34AM SHAME ON THE CITY IF WE DIDN'T KEEP OUR OPTIONS OPEN BECAUSE
11:35:37AM THEN WE HAVE BLINDERS ON LOOKING AT SOMETHING.
11:35:42AM IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES, YOU HAVE
11:35:44AM A SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP THE SCOPE AS
11:35:47AM BROAD AS POSSIBLE SO THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY EXPAND IT IF YOU
11:35:51AM NEED TO.
11:35:51AM IF YOU NARROW IT OUT THE GATE, THERE'S NO GOING BACK.
11:35:55AM SO THIS IS JUST KEEPING YOUR OPTION OPEN.
11:35:57AM THANK YOU.
11:35:58AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:36:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ISSUE IS TRANSPARENCY.
11:36:05AM EVEN THOUGH THE MAYOR HAS TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, IT IS A
11:36:07AM COVER FOR THE FACT THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS NEVER BEEN
11:36:09AM TRANSPARENT.
11:36:10AM THAT'S WHY THE PUBLIC DOESN'T TRUST THEM, AND THEY BLAME US
11:36:16AM FOR IT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
11:36:17AM BUT LOOK AT THIS ITEM, IT SAYS -- I'M LOOKING AT NUMBER 20,
11:36:18AM IT'S ABOUT NEW FIRE FLEET MAINTENANCE BUILDING.
11:36:20AM IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE ZOO OR MOVING ANYTHING
11:36:23AM ELSE AROUND.
11:36:24AM SO THE PUBLIC LOOKING AT THIS WOULD HAVE NO IDEA THAT'S WHAT
11:36:27AM IT IS.
11:36:27AM WE KNOW THAT ALL THE TIME.
11:36:29AM THE OTHER DAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET.
11:36:30AM I ASKED THE CFO AND OTHER FOLKS BASIC QUESTIONS, LIKE HOW
11:36:34AM MUCH IS OUR TOTAL DEBT, AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW.
11:36:36AM I HAVEN'T RESEARCHED THAT, BUT TYPICALLY WHEN THEY SAY WE
11:36:40AM DON'T KNOW, WE FIND OUT THEY DID KNOW BUT DIDN'T WANT TO
11:36:41AM TELL US OR THEY WERE TOLD NOT TO TELL US.
11:36:45AM THIS IS NOT HOW WE BUILD TRUST WITH THE PUBLIC.
11:36:47AM WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC.
11:36:49AM THERE ARE, I THINK, MAYBE TWO OR THREE SPRING HEADS IN THAT
11:36:52AM AREA.
11:36:52AM I'VE TAKEN A WALK THROUGH THERE.
11:36:54AM ONE OF THE THINGS WE KNOW IS THE RIVER IS HEAVILY POLLUTED.
11:36:57AM WE NEED TO FIX THAT.
11:36:58AM THE ZOO OR THE CITY, SOMEBODY CAN WORK TO BETTER CLEAR THOSE
11:37:02AM SPRING HEADS SO THAT WE CAN ADD MORE FRESHWATER THERE.
11:37:06AM BUT THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT WE NEED TO TEACH THE
11:37:08AM ADMINISTRATION A LESSON ABOUT HOW THEY NEED TO BE
11:37:11AM TRANSPARENT FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR US.
11:37:13AM I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE NO.
11:37:14AM BY THE WAY, ONLY FIVE OF US HERE.
11:37:16AM IF TWO OF US VOTE NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES ANYWAY, SO WE
11:37:19AM CAN GO QUICKLY.
11:37:20AM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, I OBJECT STRONGLY TO THIS
11:37:22AM CONCEPT OF HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
11:37:25AM GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT SERVES THE PUBLIC, WE'RE NOT A
11:37:27AM COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE COMPANY.
11:37:28AM THIS IS THE EXCUSE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY USES TO
11:37:31AM TRY TO GET RID OF THE CRUISE INDUSTRY OR THE PORT INDUSTRY.
11:37:35AM IF YOU USE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE THAT THE COMMERCIAL
11:37:38AM PROPERTY PEOPLE USE, THEN YOU WOULD CONVERT ALL OUR PARKS TO
11:37:42AM CONDOS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FEW PEOPLE WANT TO DO.
11:37:45AM THEY WANT INSIDE DEALS SO THEY CAN CONVERT EVERYTHING TO
11:37:47AM CONDOS.
11:37:48AM OUR ECONOMY IS MULTIFACETED.
11:37:50AM IT'S NOT JUST BASED ON CONDOS.
11:37:52AM CONDOS ARE IMPORTANT BUT ONE PART.
11:37:55AM HOW BEST DOES IT SERVE THE PUBLIC?
11:37:57AM SURE, CONDOS WILL GENERATE MORE AD VALOREM TAXES, BUT WOULD
11:38:02AM WE RATHER HAVE CURTIS HIXON PARK OR RATHER HAVE CONDOS
11:38:05AM THERE?
11:38:06AM WE CAN GET MORE MONEY.
11:38:07AM HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS PUTTING CONDOS IN CURTIS HIXON PARK.
11:38:11AM HOW TO BEST SERVE THE PUBLIC IS KEEP IT AS A PARK.
11:38:14AM WE SHOULD NEVER SAY HIGHEST AND BEST USE AGAIN.
11:38:18AM THAT IS A TERM TO NOT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY'S INTEREST.
11:38:21AM I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE NO AND HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COME
11:38:23AM BACK.
11:38:24AM THEY NEED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT ON THIS, NOT JUST THIS,
11:38:27AM THEY HIDE INFORMATION FROM US ALL THE TIME.
11:38:29AM MANY THINGS WE KNOW ABOUT THE HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT, FOR
11:38:32AM EXAMPLE, AND OTHER BOONDOGGLE PROJECTS, THE PUBLIC IS DOING
11:38:34AM PUBLIC RECORDS AND THEY FIND ALL THE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST,
11:38:37AM THE INSIDER DEALING, DIRTY POLITICS, STAFF TEXTING AND
11:38:42AM E-MAILING COMMUNITY MEMBERS, RILING THEM UP AGAINST US.
11:38:45AM IT IS HORRIBLE THE THINGS GOING ON.
11:38:47AM WE NEED TO SAY NO AND WE NEED TO BRING GOOD GOVERNMENT BACK
11:38:50AM TO THE CITY FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF.
11:38:52AM THANK YOU.
11:38:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:38:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN,
11:38:58AM IS CORRECT.
11:38:59AM THAT AREA THERE IS BEING USED FOR REFUELING AND DUMPING AND
11:39:05AM PICKING UP FROM ONE OR TWO CITY DIVISIONS FOR AT LEAST 60
11:39:11AM YEARS.
11:39:12AM AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER, THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AT THAT
11:39:15AM LOCATION.
11:39:15AM IT'S GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE CLEANED UP BEFORE
11:39:20AM YOU DO ANYTHING.
11:39:20AM BUT I'M JUST THERE TO LISTEN.
11:39:24AM IF I THOUGHT THAT SOMEBODY IN THIS CITY HAD DONE ALL THE
11:39:27AM VIOLATIONS I JUST HEARD, I WOULD ASK FOR COMPLETE
11:39:31AM INVESTIGATION BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT, FDLE OR ANY OTHER
11:39:37AM OUTSIDE SOURCE BECAUSE IF THAT IS THE CASE, BRING THEM ALL
11:39:41AM IN.
11:39:42AM LET'S INVESTIGATE EVERYTHING.
11:39:43AM BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO BE HEARD, TALKED ABOUT, NOT THAT
11:39:47AM IT'S ME, I DON'T LIKE ANY INNUENDOS AGAINST MY GOVERNMENT.
11:39:52AM IF ALL THAT IS TRUE, I'M ASKING FOR AN INVESTIGATION.
11:39:55AM IF THEY HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY IT, THEY HAVE THE GUTS TO PROVE
11:39:57AM IT.
11:39:58AM I WANT A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION OF WHAT I JUST HEARD.
11:40:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:40:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:40:04AM IN SUPPORTING THIS, IT KEEPS OUR OPTIONS OPEN AND DOESN'T
11:40:08AM BIND OUR HANDS.
11:40:10AM FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
11:40:11AM I KNOW THAT PROPERTY VERY WELL ON THE EAST SIDE OF
11:40:14AM BOULEVARD.
11:40:14AM IT IS A DUMP AND IS GOING TO NEED MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL
11:40:18AM REMEDIATION AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE.
11:40:21AM ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT USED TO BE FERRY LAND.
11:40:25AM NOW IT'S A PARKING LOT.
11:40:28AM LIKE AN EMPLOYEE ENTRANCE FOR THE ZOO.
11:40:31AM IT USED TO BE A NICE AREA.
11:40:34AM NOW IT IS UNDERUTILIZED.
11:40:36AM AND THAT SPECIFIC PARCEL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRE RESCUE
11:40:40AM HERE AT THE END OF THE DAY AND HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND
11:40:42AM WHATNOT.
11:40:43AM THIS HAS COME UP.
11:40:44AM ACCESS TO THE RIVER, ACCESS TO THE PARK, ACCESS TO THE
11:40:49AM COMMUNITY.
11:40:51AM WE KEEP OUR OPTION OPEN.
11:40:53AM IF IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE YOU SAID, WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH
11:40:56AM IT.
11:40:56AM AT LEAST WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.
11:40:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. COLINA CAME ONLINE -- NO.
11:41:04AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:41:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DID GET AN E-MAIL FROM MS. COLINA.
11:41:08AM AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 6.4-ACRE SITE.
11:41:10AM I BELIEVE, CHIEF BENNETT, YOU TOLD ME 1.5 ACRES IS UNUSABLE
11:41:16AM BECAUSE OF STORMWATER?
11:41:17AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A NUMBER.
11:41:19AM I KNOW THE PLOT PLAN INVOLVES THE INITIAL FEEDBACK I GOT
11:41:23AM FROM CAD WAS THAT BECAUSE OF THE LAY OF THE LAND, THE
11:41:25AM PARKING AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD
11:41:28AM NOT BE FEASIBLE.
11:41:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:41:30AM NO, NO, NO.
11:41:32AM BUT YOU SAID THERE WAS A PORTION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR
11:41:34AM STORMWATER.
11:41:34AM >>JOHN BENNETT: CORRECT.
11:41:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE TALKING A 6.4-ACRE PIECE OF LAND WHICH
11:41:40AM IS SMALLER.
11:41:41AM SHE ASKED FOR 10.
11:41:43AM THEN THESE ARE THE LOWRY PARK ASSETS.
11:41:46AM OFFICE TRAILER, LAWN MOWER CANOPY, DALE SHOP, DALE OPEN
11:41:50AM CAGES.
11:41:51AM ALL OF THIS STUFF, WE HAVE 12, 15 -- 33, 34, 35, 38, 40, 41,
11:42:07AM 42, 43 -- 44 VEHICLES.
11:42:10AM IN ADDITION.
11:42:16AM SO WHAT I'M SAYING, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S EVEN ENOUGH
11:42:20AM ROOM TO PUT FIRE.
11:42:22AM AND THEN YOU WANT TO SAY, WELL, LET'S LOOK AT IT FOR 44
11:42:26AM ADDITIONAL VEHICLES PLUS BUILDINGS.
11:42:28AM AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
11:42:30AM THIS ISN'T SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT'S THERE
11:42:35AM BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE
11:42:38AM ENOUGH FOR FIRE, BUT IT MIGHT BE ENOUGH JUST FOR THIS.
11:42:41AM THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT.
11:42:43AM WE WANT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS ENOUGH FOR FIRE.
11:42:45AM WE NEED TO MOVE ON FIRE.
11:42:49AM YES, DO WE WANT TO TAKE STUFF OFF THE LOWRY PARK RIVER?
11:42:52AM ABSOLUTELY.
11:42:53AM BUT THAT'S NOT THE PRIMARY GOAL HERE.
11:42:57AM THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO GET FLEET AND SUPPLY MOVED.
11:43:03AM SO WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT WE'RE
11:43:08AM GOING TO ADD THIS IN AND, OH, WE'RE JUST LOOKING, BUT IF
11:43:11AM WE'RE JUST LOOKING, WE'RE GOING TO BE ANOTHER YEAR WITHOUT
11:43:15AM HAVING STARTED FLEET AND SUPPLY.
11:43:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. COLINA.
11:43:20AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:43:21AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:43:22AM IF I COULD, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO TAKE YOU A LITTLE DOWN
11:43:29AM MEMORY LANE HOW WE GOT HERE.
11:43:30AM IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT
11:43:34AM ISSUED AN RFQ.
11:43:36AM THE RFQ WAS TITLED, RELATED ASSOCIATED AND SUBSEQUENT WORK
11:43:40AM FOR THE NEW FIRE SUPPORT SERVICE --
11:43:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOUR
11:43:45AM MICROPHONE, MS. COLINA?
11:43:46AM WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU?
11:43:48AM >> I'M SO SORRY.
11:43:49AM CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
11:43:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, MUCH BETTER.
11:43:52AM >> SO SORRY.
11:43:53AM WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO START FROM THE --
11:43:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE GOOD.
11:43:58AM >> AND INCLUDING FLEET MAINTENANCE, STORAGE, SUPPLY AND
11:44:04AM ASSOCIATED FACILITY ASSESSMENT.
11:44:06AM SUBMISSIONS WERE DUE FOR THAT RFQ ON OCTOBER 31 OF '24.
11:44:13AM IT WENT THROUGH THE CCNA PROCESS.
11:44:17AM THREE FIRMS PRESENTED ON DECEMBER 20 OF '24.
11:44:21AM WILDER AND ASSOCIATES WAS SELECTED.
11:44:24AM THEY WERE THE ONE SELECTED DURING THAT.
11:44:26AM THE AGREEMENT THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS SIMPLY ALLOWING
11:44:31AM THEM, THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, TO DO THE PROGRAMMING FOR
11:44:36AM BUILDING AND SITE AND SEEING WHAT THE REQUIRED SPACE IS FOR
11:44:41AM FLEET THAT SERVICES FIRE AND SUPPLY.
11:44:44AM I WILL ALSO SAY AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I'VE HEARD YOU SAY
11:44:47AM A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THE FIRE CHIEF ASKED FOR TEN ACRES.
11:44:50AM WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT IS NOT HER AREA OF EXPERTISE.
11:44:55AM WILDER AND ASSOCIATES HAS A DEMONSTRATED TRACK RECORD.
11:44:58AM THEY DID A SIMILAR FACILITY.
11:45:01AM THEY DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED A SIMILAR FACILITY IN
11:45:03AM CHARLOTTE COUNTY.
11:45:04AM WE ARE NOT THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
11:45:07AM SO WE ARE LEANING ON THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO TELL US
11:45:10AM WHAT WE TRULY NEED TO SERVICE OUR FLEET BASED ON THE NUMBER
11:45:14AM OF THEIR VEHICLES TO PROVIDE AMPLE STORAGE FOR THEM BASED ON
11:45:18AM WHAT THEY HAVE.
11:45:19AM SO WE ARE LEANING TO THE EXPERTS OR ON THE EXPERTS, RATHER,
11:45:23AM TO LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO ON THE SITE.
11:45:28AM AS CHIEF BENNETT MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING -- COUNCILMAN
11:45:32AM CARLSON HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, MASTER PLAN, DO YOUR
11:45:35AM HOMEWORK, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
11:45:37AM WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED.
11:45:42AM AS I MENTIONED MONDAY, RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, YOU'LL HAVE
11:45:44AM TWO DEPARTMENTS ON-SITE.
11:45:45AM BECAUSE I WANT EVERYONE TO REMEMBER, THE FLEET MAINTENANCE
11:45:48AM TEAM, LOGISTICS AND ASSETS MANAGEMENT.
11:45:50AM THAT IS MY DEPARTMENT SERVICE FIRE.
11:45:52AM WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE WITH FIRE.
11:45:54AM FIRE CURRENTLY SHARES SPACE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR
11:45:57AM SUPPLY AND AT THE FLEET SITE, WE SHARE WITH THE FIRE
11:46:00AM DEPARTMENT.
11:46:00AM THE CITY DOES THAT CITYWIDE.
11:46:03AM OLD CITY HALL -- I CAN GO ON AND ON.
11:46:07AM BIG BLUE, T & I WAS LOCATED THERE.
11:46:10AM WE TRY TO OPTIMIZE SPACE WHERE POSSIBLE.
11:46:13AM HONESTLY, THIS IS NOT A DECISION THE ADMINISTRATION IS
11:46:15AM MAKING.
11:46:15AM WE'LL LEAN TO OUR EXPERTS.
11:46:16AM ALL WE'RE DOING IS TAKING THIS RFQ THAT WENT THROUGH THE
11:46:21AM CCNA PROCESS, GETTING THE AGREEMENT -- WILDER AND ASSOCIATES
11:46:25AM IN LINE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
11:46:27AM THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY.
11:46:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. COLINA.
11:46:30AM MR. BENNETT, ANYTHING TO ADD?
11:46:32AM >> JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:46:34AM ADDRESS A FEW THINGS.
11:46:35AM ONE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY WHAT HIGHEST AND BEST
11:46:38AM USE.
11:46:38AM THAT PARK AND LAY DOWN EQUIPMENT, LOGISTICS AND FUEL IS AT
11:46:42AM RISK NEAR THE RIVER REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT ENDS UP.
11:46:45AM WHEN YOU HAVE 30,000 GALLONS OF FUEL THERE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN
11:46:51AM HIT YET.
11:46:52AM IF THAT RIVER CRESTS, IT BECOMES A LOGISTICAL PROBLEM.
11:46:55AM IT'S NOT JUST WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR, IT IS THE FUNCTIONS
11:46:58AM THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE AT RISK.
11:47:00AM THAT IS MY VERSION OF HIGHEST BEST USE IS FOR SERVICE.
11:47:03AM I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE EXPERT NOR DO I PLAN ON BEING ONE.
11:47:06AM THAT'S PART OF IT.
11:47:07AM THE SECOND PART OF IT IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY
11:47:11AM UNDERSTANDS THE FOCUS IS FIRE FLEET AND WAREHOUSING.
11:47:14AM IF 100% OF WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON TODAY GOES TO THAT, I'M
11:47:18AM FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT REALLY MATTERED.
11:47:20AM THAT'S HOW IT GOT STARTED.
11:47:24AM THAT'S HOW THE ASSESSMENT AND -- THIS WAS SIMPLY A
11:47:27AM FEASIBILITY QUESTION.
11:47:28AM WHEREVER THAT TEAR LINE HAPPENS, WHETHER BEFORE, DURING,
11:47:32AM AFTER, WE WILL FIGURE OUT LOWRY PARK.
11:47:35AM THAT IS NOT THE FOCUS.
11:47:36AM I SAID IT IN THE INTERNAL MEETINGS, I'M SAYING IT TO THE
11:47:39AM PUBLIC, IT WAS JUST AN ANCILLARY REQUEST TO SEE, BECAUSE WE
11:47:42AM DON'T OFTEN COME ACROSS ACREAGE IN THE CITY.
11:47:45AM SO IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE
11:47:49AM SURE THAT THESE TWO PRIORITIES HAPPEN.
11:47:51AM THAT'S IT.
11:47:51AM I'M DONE.
11:47:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:47:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:47:54AM I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL COUNCILMAN VIERA COMES BACK TO
11:47:57AM VOTE ON IT BECAUSE HE ASKED.
11:47:59AM SO MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM 20 UNTIL AFTER COUNCILMAN
11:48:03AM VIERA RETURNS AFTER LUNCH.
11:48:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 20 UNTIL
11:48:09AM AFTER COUNCILMAN VIERA COMES BACK FROM LUNCH.
11:48:12AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:48:14AM OPPOSED?
11:48:14AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:48:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AND COME
11:48:20AM BACK?
11:48:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE TAMPA PD IS HERE.
11:48:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS A PRETTY QUICK ONE OVERALL.
11:48:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU WANT TO SAY IT WHEN WE BRING IT
11:48:35AM BACK UP?
11:48:35AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:48:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: WILDER ARCHITECTS IS THE COMPANY.
11:48:39AM IT IS A GREAT FIRM.
11:48:40AM MS. COLINA WAS TALKING ABOUT THEIR EXPERTISE.
11:48:42AM GREAT FIRM.
11:48:43AM LARRY WILDER WAS A FANTASTIC PERSON.
11:48:46AM NOTHING I QUESTION HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WILDER OR THEIR
11:48:49AM REPUTATION.
11:48:50AM GREAT FIRM.
11:48:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:48:51AM I WOULD SUGGEST WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 52.
11:48:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE CAN DO 52.
11:48:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 52.
11:48:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO JUST KICK THIS OFF BY SAYING THAT
11:49:04AM WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON MONDAY ABOUT FUNDING FOR THIS.
11:49:08AM THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS ASKS FOR.
11:49:10AM THIS MOTION IS JUST A PROGRESS REPORT ON WHERE WE ARE, THE
11:49:14AM TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN IT.
11:49:16AM WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT FUNDING THIS OR THAT IS NOT THE
11:49:20AM INTENT OF THIS STAFF REPORT.
11:49:22AM I JUST WANTED TO SET THE TABLE.
11:49:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING.
11:49:25AM START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
11:49:26AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:49:27AM I'M ASSISTANT CHIEF RUTH KATE WITH THE TAMPA POLICE
11:49:31AM DEPARTMENT.
11:49:31AM I HAVE WITH ME TODAY MAJOR PATRICK MESSMER ALSO FROM THE
11:49:35AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LEGAL ADVISOR MICHAEL SCHMIDT,
11:49:39AM SHOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
11:49:41AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY TO UPDATE YOU ON THE
11:49:43AM PROJECT.
11:49:44AM CURRENT APPROVED CAPITAL BUDGET IS $41,296,000.
11:49:48AM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW.
11:49:51AM WHAT HAVE WE SPENT ON THE PROJECT SO FAR?
11:49:53AM $6.2 MILLION.
11:49:54AM THAT HAS BEEN USED FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY AT 5005
11:49:58AM NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.
11:49:59AM THE DESIGN PLANS AND CREATION OF THE PROJECT, PERMITTING,
11:50:03AM THE TREE STUDY, THE POND STUDY, ENGINEERING, AND THE PROJECT
11:50:08AM MANAGER, WHICH WE ARE ALSO USING WILDER ARCHITECTURE TO HELP
11:50:11AM US.
11:50:12AM I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU A DISPLAY OF OUR PARKING SPACES.
11:50:19AM THERE WAS A QUESTION ON WHAT WILL THE PARKING SPACES BE AT
11:50:24AM THE NEW FACILITY.
11:50:26AM I'LL PUT THAT ON THE ELMO FOR YOU.
11:50:29AM CURRENTLY, THE PARKING WILL BE FOR 84 VEHICLES, WHICH
11:50:36AM INCLUDES EMPLOYEE PARKING, LARGE HIGH VEHICLE STORAGE, AND
11:50:39AM CHARGING STATIONS FOR EVs AND BICYCLE SPACES.
11:50:43AM THERE WILL BE 30 ADDITIONAL TANDEM SPACES FOR VEHICLE
11:50:47AM STORAGE, WHICH I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A COLOR ONE, WHICH MAY
11:50:50AM HELP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
11:50:51AM BUT THIS IS THE OVERALL PLAN SO FAR.
11:50:54AM WHERE WE WILL HELP SAVE SOME MONEY, WHICH IS FOR THE TANDEM
11:51:00AM VEHICLES RIGHT THERE, THAT WILL BE GRAVEL.
11:51:02AM THAT WILL ACTUALLY NOT BE PAVED.
11:51:05AM THE EMPLOYEE PARKING, THE MAIN EMPLOYEE PARKING WILL BE
11:51:08AM HERE, AND THERE WILL BE EMPLOYEE PARKING HERE, BUT THESE ARE
11:51:11AM OVERFLOW OF VEHICLES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT EMPLOYEES
11:51:14AM DON'T NORMALLY DRIVE, LIKE OUR COMMAND POSTS, THE HIGH WATER
11:51:18AM VEHICLES, THOSE VEHICLES WILL GO THERE.
11:51:20AM WE ALSO HAVE EV CHARGERS AND WE WILL ACCOMMODATE ADA
11:51:24AM PARKING.
11:51:25AM THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL PARK IN THIS AREA HERE.
11:51:29AM THAT WAS FOR THE PARKING.
11:51:31AM THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ASSUMPTION FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS
11:51:36AM 47,594 SQUARE FOOT.
11:51:40AM THIS IS THE OVERALL SITE PLAN OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
11:51:50AM THIS IS THE POND AND ALL OF THE PARKING, AND THIS IS THE
11:51:53AM OVERALL BUILDING THERE.
11:51:54AM UPDATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THIS IS CURRENTLY A DESIGN-BUILD
11:52:03AM BID, WHICH IS UNIQUE.
11:52:04AM WE WILL NOT KNOW THE EXACT COSTS UNTIL THE BID IS ACCEPTED.
11:52:09AM THE ESTIMATED COSTS STILL REMAIN AROUND THE $40 MILLION IS
11:52:13AM WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:52:14AM BEFORE I GO FURTHER, I WOULD LIKE MAJOR MESSMER TO TALK
11:52:18AM ABOUT A LIST OF POSITIONS THAT WOULD BE MOVING FOR TPD
11:52:22AM HEADQUARTERS AND THE TEMPORARY IMPOUND LOT AT CROCKETT'S.
11:52:27AM >> MAJOR PATRICK MESSMER, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:52:30AM I INITIALLY TOOK LEAD ON THIS PROJECT BACK IN 2021 WHEN I
11:52:34AM WAS IN A PREVIOUS ASSIGNMENT WHEN I LEARNED THAT WE WERE
11:52:37AM BEING MOVED OUT OF OUR EXISTING IMPOUND LOT DUE TO SOLID
11:52:40AM WASTE RELOCATION WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT.
11:52:43AM THERE WAS A LIST OF POSITIONS REQUESTED OF WHO IS GOING TO
11:52:45AM BE MOVING FROM HEADQUARTERS AND THE IMPOUND LOT OVER TO THIS
11:52:49AM NEW FACILITY.
11:52:50AM THERE WILL BE ABOUT 51 EMPLOYEES.
11:52:52AM THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR NATIONAL INTEGRATED BALLISTICS
11:52:56AM NETWORK TECHNICIANS FINGERPRINT TECHNICIANS, FORENSIC
11:53:00AM PERSONNEL AND ALL OF OUR EVIDENCE AND IMPOUND LOT PERSONNEL.
11:53:04AM AND WE HAVE ALWAYS STAFFED TWO FACILITIES FOR EVIDENCE.
11:53:09AM CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A TEMPORARY IMPOUND LOT.
11:53:11AM PREVIOUSLY WE STAFFED THE 34th STREET IMPOUND LOT.
11:53:14AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID BACK IN 2021 WAS CONDUCT A COST
11:53:17AM BENEFIT ANALYSIS ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
11:53:20AM SO WE STAFF BETWEEN 8 AND 9 POSITIONS AT THE SECONDARY
11:53:24AM LOCATION.
11:53:24AM BY CENTRALIZING THIS TO ONE LOCATION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO
11:53:30AM ELIMINATE THROUGH ATTRITION OR RECLASSIFIED POSITIONS, MOVE
11:53:35AM THEM INTO OTHER POSITIONS WHERE WE HAVE VACANCIES, EIGHT
11:53:37AM POSITIONS.
11:53:38AM SO IF WE ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE A 40-YEAR LIFETIME OF THE
11:53:43AM STRUCTURE, WHICH IS NOT UNREASONABLE CONSIDERING THE AGE OF
11:53:46AM OUR HEADQUARTERS BUILDING, THE AGE OF THE TRAINING FACILITY
11:53:49AM THAT'S UNDERGOING SOME CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE DOWN TO
11:53:53AM 34th STREET, THAT SAVINGS OVER THAT 40-YEAR PERIOD IS
11:53:57AM GOING TO BE ABOUT 42, $43 MILLION WHEN YOU FACTOR IN ABOUT A
11:54:02AM 4% INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE COSTS AND BENEFITS ANNUALLY IF WE
11:54:06AM CAN ELIMINATE THOSE EIGHT POSITIONS.
11:54:08AM POTENTIALLY, IT WILL BE A COST NEUTRAL PROJECT AT THE END OF
11:54:14AM THE LIFE OF THE STRUCTURE.
11:54:23AM >> ASSISTANT CHIEF RUTH KATE AGAIN.
11:54:25AM I HAVE DISCUSSED WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE PERMITTING PROGRESS
11:54:30AM WITH ABBYE FEELEY.
11:54:31AM AND SHE ASSURES ME, WE REVIEWED ALL THE PERMITS THAT ARE
11:54:35AM OUTSTANDING, THAT THE FINAL PERMIT SHOULD BE APPROVED BY THE
11:54:38AM END OF AUGUST, AT WHICH TIME WE CAN PUT THE PROJECT OUT TO
11:54:42AM BID.
11:54:43AM ONCE WE ACCEPT A BID AND WE'RE READY TO BREAK GROUND, IT
11:54:49AM WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 16 MONTHS FOR COMPLETION OF THE
11:54:52AM PROJECT.
11:54:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:54:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ASSISTANT CHIEF
11:55:01AM KATE.
11:55:01AM I LIKE SAYING THAT, BECAUSE YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
11:55:05AM THIS IS A MAJOR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE IT IS A HISTORIC
11:55:07AM PROJECT.
11:55:07AM I'M GLAD TO SEE THE INVESTMENT IN WEST TAMPA, WELLS WOOD
11:55:12AM BECAUSE IT IS IN AN UNDERUTILIZED AREA.
11:55:15AM THAT LITTLE CORRIDOR.
11:55:18AM BUT IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
11:55:19AM IT'S NEEDED.
11:55:20AM I UNDERSTAND, I'VE TOURED WHAT IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET ON
11:55:24AM THE 7th FLOOR.
11:55:26AM FOR A CITY LIKE TAMPA, IT'S OUTDATED.
11:55:29AM MY CONCERN IS HOW WE FUND IT.
11:55:31AM AND YOU MENTIONED IT IS AROUND THE 40 MILLION.
11:55:33AM YOU MENTIONED AROUND THE $42 MILLION IN SAVINGS.
11:55:37AM THE THING IS, WHEN YOU BOND SOMETHING, WHAT YOU PAY IN
11:55:40AM INTEREST, IT JUST DEFEATS THAT ENTIRE PURPOSE.
11:55:42AM I HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH OUR CFO, MR. ROGERO, TO LOOK
11:55:47AM AT HOW CAN WE NOT BOND THIS.
11:55:50AM LOOKING AT THE CIT, LOOKING AT WHAT'S COMING IN THE RENEWAL,
11:55:54AM JUST TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER FUNDING, BECAUSE I WANT
11:55:57AM TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.
11:55:59AM I WANT TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE.
11:56:01AM WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE HANNA BUILDING, SOME DEPARTMENTS WERE
11:56:06AM MOVING IN AND SAYING WE'RE NOT PAYING RENT IN THESE OTHER
11:56:09AM PLACES, BUT THE COST OF THAT FACILITY PLUS WHAT WAS BONDED
11:56:12AM AND THE INTEREST IT DEFEATED THAT ARGUMENT.
11:56:14AM OH, PAYING A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN RENT, BUT HOW MUCH
11:56:17AM PAYING THE BANKS IN THE LIFETIME OF THE FINANCING.
11:56:21AM MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, I KNOW THIS IS NOT A VOTE, THIS IS
11:56:25AM A STATUS UPDATE, MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE AND THE
11:56:29AM SCRUTINY I'LL PUT IS HOW CAN WE SAVE MONEY AND BE
11:56:34AM FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE IN GETTING THIS DONE?
11:56:37AM I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
11:56:39AM I KNOW WITH THE CIT THERE ARE RENEWALS FOR THE POLICE -- THE
11:56:42AM NEW POLICE CARS COMING IN.
11:56:44AM THE CONCERN WAS, YOU KNOW, IF -- WITH WHAT IS DONE WITH THE
11:56:47AM CIT MONEY AND IF WE LOOK AT FUNDING THIS WITH THE REVENUE
11:56:51AM THAT WE GET, WILL THAT AFFECT HOW WE REPLACE THE NEW POLICE
11:56:57AM CARS?
11:56:57AM I KNOW THE VEHICLES THAT THE POLICE HAVE, THEY HAVE A LIFE
11:57:00AM SPAN.
11:57:00AM THOSE THINGS RUN ALL DAY.
11:57:02AM THEY ARE NOT REGULAR CARS.
11:57:04AM THEY ARE RACING AND HIGH MILEAGE AND ALL SORTS OF STUFF.
11:57:07AM MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT DISCUSSION WHEN THIS DOES COME
11:57:10AM FROM A VOTE, WHEN IT DOES COME UP FOR A VOTE, I WANT TO LOOK
11:57:13AM AT HOW WE CAN UTILIZE CIT, WHAT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
11:57:17AM AT THE LAST RESORT, IF WE HAVE TO BOND, TO BOND THE LEAST --
11:57:22AM I WANT TO AVOID BONDING ALTOGETHER.
11:57:24AM I ASKED A QUESTION OR MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE GRECO
11:57:26AM ADMINISTRATION WITH THE ORIGINAL CIT POST 1996, '97, HOW THE
11:57:31AM POLICE SUBSTATIONS LIKE ON TAMPA BAY AND OTHER -- HOW THEY
11:57:34AM WERE FUNDED.
11:57:36AM I'LL CALL MAYOR GRECO AND ASK HIM.
11:57:38AM I THINK THEY WERE PAID WITH CIT MONEY.
11:57:41AM CIT IS A BLESSING.
11:57:42AM I KNOW IT IS A 15-YEAR RENEWAL.
11:57:46AM BUT IF WE CAN DO THE MOST GOOD WITH IT BECAUSE IT IS
11:57:50AM DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE AND WE CAN PAY FOR THIS, THE CHIEF
11:57:53AM MENTIONED A NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS, $400 MILLION.
11:57:55AM I DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION.
11:57:59AM IT'S AN OLD BUILDING BUT I'D RATHER RENOVATE BIG BLUE
11:58:02AM BECAUSE IT IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT.
11:58:04AM I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY WITH OUR ARTS
11:58:08AM COUNCIL, BUT IN MOVING THIS FORWARD, AGAIN, I WANT TO AVOID
11:58:11AM BONDING AND TRY TO FUND IT WITH GENERAL REVENUE, WITH CIT,
11:58:19AM WITH ANYTHING -- THE LAST RESORT IS GIVING MONEY TO THE
11:58:22AM BANKS BECAUSE IT DEFEATS THE $42 MILLION IN SAVINGS WHEN
11:58:25AM WE'RE JUST GOING TO PAY IT IN INTEREST.
11:58:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:58:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:58:32AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:58:32AM THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
11:58:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROVIDING
11:58:36AM THIS INFORMATION AND FOR CHATTING WITH ME AHEAD OF TIME.
11:58:40AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE
11:58:44AM UPDATE, THE INFORMATION, WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT.
11:58:47AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:58:48AM I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE LAST REMARK.
11:58:50AM REMEMBER, WE ARE A GROWING CITY.
11:58:52AM AND WE WERE JUST RECENTLY RANKED THE SIXTH SAFEST OF OUR
11:58:57AM SIZE ACROSS THE NATION.
11:59:00AM AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS
11:59:02AM DO.
11:59:03AM WHEN WE THINK OUR EVIDENCE AND PROPERTY ROOM, WE NEED TO
11:59:07AM CONSIDER POST CONVICTION RELIEF.
11:59:09AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THESE DEFENDANTS HAVE THIS EVIDENCE
11:59:12AM AVAILABLE TO THEM UNTIL THE EXPIRATION OF THEIR SENTENCE.
11:59:15AM THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUCH THE VOLUME.
11:59:17AM AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, WE OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY NOT TO
11:59:22AM HAVE ONE CASE LOST.
11:59:24AM SO VERY IMPORTANT.
11:59:26AM ONCE WE MOVE EVIDENCE AND FORENSICS, THAT IS THE BULK OF
11:59:31AM WHAT IS AT HEADQUARTERS.
11:59:32AM THE REST OF US CAN PROBABLY HOTEL ANYWHERE.
11:59:36AM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DETECTIVES AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF,
11:59:38AM THE COST OF BUILDING A POLICE HEADQUARTERS GOES DOWN
11:59:41AM TREMENDOUSLY.
11:59:42AM AND WE WOULD NOT REBUILD THIS PART.
11:59:44AM THIS WOULD BE SEPARATE.
11:59:45AM IT HELPS WITH VENTILATION.
11:59:47AM WE DON'T HAVE THE OUTSIDE STORAGE LIKE WE USED TO HAVE AT
11:59:51AM WHAT WE FORMERLY USED AS THE IMPOUND LOT.
11:59:55AM WE ARE GETTING OUT OF THE IMPOUND LOT BUSINESS.
11:59:58AM A LOT OF THE STATUTES HAVE CHANGED ON IMPOUNDING OF CARS.
12:00:01PM THAT'S WHY THE PARKING LOT IS NOT AS BIG.
12:00:03PM WE WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE TREE STUDY AND THE POND
12:00:10PM MITIGATION.
12:00:10PM WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS IN WELLS WOOD.
12:00:13PM WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THEM ALSO WHICH WOULD BE OUR NEIGHBORS.
12:00:16PM WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND HOW IT'S GOING.
12:00:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:00:20PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A CEREMONIAL THING
12:00:23PM YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.
12:00:24PM I'M SORRY.
12:00:25PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:00:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO CENTS TO THE CONVERSATION, IT'S NOT
12:00:31PM WHAT YOU BUY TODAY AND SPEND TODAY.
12:00:34PM IT'S THAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE ANOTHER 20 YEARS FROM NOW, 30
12:00:37PM YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO COST.
12:00:41PM THAT'S NEVER BEEN SAID.
12:00:42PM NO ONE HAS ADDRESSED THAT.
12:00:43PM NO ONE SAYS WHAT IF NOTHING HAPPENS, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO
12:00:47PM GO?
12:00:47PM A LOT OF IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED.
12:00:50PM YEAH, BONDING IS WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS
12:00:53PM TODAY, 4.5, 4.75, WHATEVER IT IS.
12:00:57PM YOU THINK THE INTEREST RATE WILL STAY THAT WAY FOR THE NEXT
12:00:59PM 20 YEARS?
12:01:00PM I DON'T THINK SO.
12:01:03PM >> NO, SIR, COUNCILMAN, I DON'T THINK.
12:01:05PM BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I DON'T WANT 20 YEARS FROM NOW A
12:01:09PM GUILTY PERSON TO BE SET FREE BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE WAS NOT
12:01:12PM THERE.
12:01:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:01:13PM THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT.
12:01:15PM I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE.
12:01:16PM JUST ONE PERSON.
12:01:17PM ONE PERSON.
12:01:18PM I SAID THAT BEFORE.
12:01:19PM I'M NOT AFRAID TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:01:22PM I MAY NOT LIKE IT PERSONALLY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT BIG
12:01:26PM BUSINESS, GENERAL MOTORS AND EVERYBODY IS BIG BUSINESS, THEY
12:01:31PM ALSO HAVE A CREDIT LINE, WHEN THEY CAN MAKE A BARGAIN, THEY
12:01:37PM TAKE IT AND RUN WITH IT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES EVEN BIG, BIG
12:01:40PM BUSINESS NEEDS IMMEDIATE CASH.
12:01:43PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
12:01:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
12:01:46PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
12:01:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU ALL.
12:01:48PM ENJOY YOUR AFTERNOON.
12:01:49PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:01:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, ADAM, THIS IS HIS LAST MEETING
12:01:56PM BECAUSE HE HAS TO GO BACK TO FSU, AS HIS FUTURE RUNNING MATE
12:02:03PM MENTIONED LAST WEEK.
12:02:04PM HE CAME THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER AS INTERN.
12:02:09PM MY AIDE HAD HEALTH ISSUES.
12:02:10PM HE STEPPED RIGHT IN AND BEEN WORKING AS A TEMP FOR A COUPLE
12:02:13PM OF MONTHS NOW AND HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.
12:02:16PM I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK HIM AND WISH HIM WELL.
12:02:20PM STAY IN TOUCH.
12:02:20PM HE KNOWS THAT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP HIM IN THE FUTURE,
12:02:24PM WE WILL.
12:02:24PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:02:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS?
12:02:35PM WHAT ARE YOU STUDYING?
12:02:37PM AND WHAT YEAR ARE YOU?
12:02:40PM >> I'M GOING -- ADAM BIRDEN.
12:02:44PM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, COUNCIL.
12:02:47PM I'M GOING TO BE AN ACCOUNTING MAJOR.
12:02:52PM I'M GOING INTO MY SOPHOMORE YEAR.
12:02:55PM I AM ALSO DOING A MINOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE.
12:02:59PM AS I STARTED WORKING HERE OVER THE SUMMER, I'VE GROWN VERY
12:03:06PM INVESTED IN POLITICS.
12:03:08PM I DO THINK THERE IS A FUTURE FOR ME, NOT NECESSARILY IN CITY
12:03:12PM WORK, BUT DEFINITELY GOVERNMENT RELATED.
12:03:16PM I AM ALSO VERY FINANCE INTERESTED.
12:03:22PM I DO WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH MONEY.
12:03:24PM SO THAT COMES INTO THE ACCOUNTING PART.
12:03:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY.
12:03:28PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:03:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S LIKE THE OLD SAYING IT, GO TO
12:03:34PM SCHOOL, MAKE STRAIGHT-As, BECOME LAWYERS, BECOME JUDGES.
12:03:38PM THOSE THAT GO TO COLLEGE, MAKE A C IN LAW, THEY BECOME
12:03:41PM MILLIONAIRES.
12:03:42PM ACCOUNTING SAME WAY IN A WAY WITH NUMBERS.
12:03:46PM YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM AHEAD OF YOUR LIFE.
12:03:48PM JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO AND ENJOY.
12:03:51PM IT WILL BE HARD NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT, ONE PLAYER
12:03:54PM PLAY FOR YOU ONE YEAR, THEN HE'S GONE.
12:03:56PM IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT, NOT A TEAM ANYMORE.
12:03:59PM IT'S WHO YOU CAN BUY TO PLAY FOR YOU ANYMORE.
12:04:02PM THAT'S HOW IT IS IN SPORTS.
12:04:03PM WHAT AM I GOING TO SAY, DO I LIKE IT?
12:04:05PM ABSOLUTELY NOT.
12:04:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THAT SAYING GO ON TO SAY THOSE WHO
12:04:09PM FLUNK GO ON TO BE POLITICIANS?
12:04:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THOSE WHO GET Cs BECOME CITY COUNCIL
12:04:14PM --
12:04:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: CHARLIE, WHICH WERE YOU?
12:04:20PM >> D STUDENT.
12:04:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO ASK.
12:04:23PM NOW I KNOW.
12:04:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:04:27PM >> BASICALLY I GET As.
12:04:29PM >> HOW OLD ARE YOU?
12:04:31PM >> 20.
12:04:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S GREAT.
12:04:32PM I WAS 20 THE OTHER DAY.
12:04:34PM I'M 41 NOW.
12:04:35PM BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS YOUR EDUCATION AND TO LEARN
12:04:40PM ABOUT MONEY.
12:04:41PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF FRIENDS OF MINE FROM WHEN THEY WERE
12:04:44PM YOUNG, ONE IS IN FINANCE AND ONE IS NOT IN FINANCE.
12:04:46PM BUT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING HOW MONEY WORKS,
12:04:49PM SAVING AND INVESTING FOR YOUR FUTURE BECAUSE TIME FLIES,
12:04:52PM NUMBER ONE.
12:04:54PM YOUR EDUCATION, YOUR FUTURE, RETIREMENT, FINANCES, I WANTED
12:04:58PM TO BE AN ATTORNEY AND THE GOAL WAS -- I EVEN APPLIED TO GO
12:05:02PM TO LAW SCHOOL -- GOAL TO BE AN ATTORNEY AND RUN FOR PUBLIC
12:05:05PM OFFICE.
12:05:06PM ALWAYS HAD MY SIGHTS ON CITY LOCAL BECAUSE I WAS INSPIRED BY
12:05:13PM MAYOR GRECO, FORMER MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLIE
12:05:17PM MIRANDA, BECAUSE THOSE ARE WHO I KNEW GROWING UP.
12:05:21PM BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
12:05:22PM AGAIN, BUILD THAT FOUNDATION, FOCUS ON YOURSELF BECAUSE IT
12:05:26PM WILL BE A BETTER FUTURE FOR YOU.
12:05:28PM SO YOU TALKED ABOUT FINANCE, TALKED ABOUT GOVERNMENT.
12:05:31PM THERE ARE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES, AND NEVER BE SCARED.
12:05:36PM NEVER BE SCARED.
12:05:37PM DON'T HESITATE.
12:05:38PM BECAUSE WHAT IS IT, FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD.
12:05:41PM EVEN IF YOU MAY FAIL, DON'T BE TOO SCARED THAT YOU DON'T
12:05:45PM TAKE THAT FIRST STEP.
12:05:46PM BEST OF LUCK TO YOU, SIR.
12:05:48PM THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE.
12:05:49PM THANK YOU.
12:05:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ADVICE I'LL GIVE, FAILURE IS ONLY FOR
12:05:52PM THOSE WHO DO NOT GET UP AND RUN AND TRY AGAIN.
12:05:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:05:58PM ADAM, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE HAVING YOU BACK THERE.
12:06:02PM YOU ALWAYS HAVE A SMILE ON YOUR FACE.
12:06:03PM ALWAYS SO FRIENDLY.
12:06:05PM WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO MISS YOU.
12:06:08PM BEEN A LOT OF FUN.
12:06:09PM HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.
12:06:11PM >> HOPEFULLY.
12:06:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAKE CARE.
12:06:12PM ENJOY YOUR LUNCH.
12:06:13PM >> THANK YOU SPECIFICALLY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR HAVING
12:06:15PM ME.
12:06:15PM THIS HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY VALUABLE EXPERIENCE.
12:06:18PM I'VE LEARNED SO MANY, SO MANY GREAT THINGS FROM COUNTLESS
12:06:23PM E-MAILS AND SCHEDULING, IT'S TRULY BEEN ONE OF THE MOST
12:06:28PM VALUABLE EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE.
12:06:31PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:06:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST DON'T TAKE ADVICE FROM HIM ABOUT
12:06:33PM MOVIES.
12:06:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: BY THE WAY, HE DOESN'T TALK ABOUT IT, SO YOU
12:06:39PM MIGHT NOT KNOW, HE LIVED IN SINGAPORE FOR FOUR YEARS.
12:06:43PM YOU CAN GET A SECOND OPINION.
12:06:44PM >> VERY WILD COINCIDENCE WE BOTH DID.
12:06:47PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:06:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE IN RECESS.
12:06:55PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
01:34:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE?
01:34:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:35:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:35:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:35:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:35:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:35:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:35:07PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:35:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL PAUSE FOR A MINUTE AND MOVE ON
01:35:19PM TO 53.
01:35:20PM IN-PERSON STAFF REPORT.
01:35:21PM OCEA.
01:35:23PM IS OCEA ONLINE?
01:35:25PM OKAY.
01:35:25PM IS STAFF ONLINE FOR 53?
01:35:37PM NO COAT THURSDAY.
01:35:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE.
01:35:42PM I NEVER NOT WORN A TIE TO CITY COUNCIL.
01:35:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I JUST DROPPED MY COAT IN THE OFFICE
01:35:48PM BECAUSE IT WAS HOT OUT HERE.
01:35:49PM GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE FOR ANYONE ON ITEM 53.
01:36:00PM OKAY, WHO IS AVAILABLE?
01:36:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET'S DO 54.
01:36:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW ABOUT 54.
01:36:12PM GOING ONCE.
01:36:14PM GOING TWICE.
01:36:15PM 54.
01:36:16PM WE HAVE A BIDDER.
01:36:17PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MALI LAGASSE, REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
01:36:29PM I'M HERE FOR A PRESENTATION OF A HONORING STREET NAMING OF
01:36:34PM GEORGE AND LEONARD LEVY.
01:36:43PM IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE PRESENTATION.
01:36:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S UP.
01:36:47PM >> I DON'T HAVE IT ON MY SCREEN.
01:36:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHOULD BE A CLICKER THERE SOMEWHERE.
01:36:52PM >> IT IS ALL BLACK.
01:36:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOMEBODY FROM CCTV COME AND PROVIDE SOME
01:36:59PM ASSISTANCE?
01:37:04PM ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE IT ON THE OVERHEAD ABOVE YOU?
01:37:08PM >> I CAN, BUT I CAN'T ADVANCE ANYTHING.
01:37:10PM I THINK IT IS REBOOTING.
01:37:11PM THERE WE GO.
01:37:12PM ALL RIGHT.
01:37:23PM LEONARD LEVY AND GEORGE LEVY WERE TAMPA NATIVES AND TWINS
01:37:29PM THAT DEDICATED THEIR LIVES OF BUILDING A STRONGER AND MORE
01:37:32PM DYNAMIC TAMPAM AND THEIR BELIEF IN ITS POTENTIAL SHAPED
01:37:37PM THE CITY FOR A RECOGNIZED DESTINATION IN THE WORLD OF
01:37:41PM SPORTS AND CIVIC PRIDE.
01:37:42PM IN THE EARLY 1970s, GEORGE AND LEONARD WERE PART OF A
01:37:47PM PIONEERIN GROUP OF LEADERS THAT SAW WHAT TAMPA COULD COME.
01:37:50PM THEY WORKED TIRELESSLY TO BRING FOOTBALL TO THE REGION
01:37:54PM MEETING WITH COMMISSIONER ROSELL.
01:37:57PM AND THE VISION CAME A REALITY IN 1974 WHEN THE TEAM WAS
01:38:01PM AWARDED THE FIRST NFL FRANCHISE, THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
01:38:04PM TRANSFORMATIVE MOMENT OF TAMPA'S RISE AS PREMIERE SPORTS
01:38:08PM CITY.
01:38:08PM LEONARD LEVY WAS A GRADUATE OF PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND EARNED
01:38:16PM A JOURNALISM DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
01:38:18PM HE PROUDLY SERVED AS A CAPTAIN IN THE U.S. MARINES BEFORE
01:38:22PM BUILDING A SUCCESSFUL CAREER AT HILLSBOROUGH PRINTING
01:38:27PM COMPANY.
01:38:27PM HIS TRUE PRESENCE WITH TAMPA WAS ON THE NATIONAL STAGE.
01:38:30PM BEYOND HELPING TO SECURE THE NFL FRANCHISE.
01:38:38PM AND WAS CO-CHAIR FOR SUPER BOWL 25 IN 1991, AND ULTIMATELY,
01:38:44PM HIS INFLUENCE OF TAMPA HOSTING ADDITIONAL SUPER BOWLS IN
01:38:48PM 2001, 2009 AND 2021.
01:38:52PM HIS LEADERSHIP WAS INSTRUMENTAL OF PUTTING TAMPA IN THE
01:38:56PM GLOBAL SPOTLIGHT OF A SPORTS ORGANIZATION.
01:38:58PM LEONARD SERVED ON SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THE TAMPA
01:39:03PM BAY SPORTS FOUNDATION, GREATER TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE,
01:39:06PM TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL FOUNDATION, THE OUTBACK BOWL
01:39:12PM AND YE MYSTIC KREWE OF GASPARILLA.
01:39:17PM AMONG HIS MANY HONORS, LEONARD RECEIVED THE KEY TO THE CITY
01:39:22PM OF TAMPA, THE UNIVERSITY OF DISTINGUISHED ALUMNUS AWARD
01:39:25PM AND INDUCTED IN THE USF AND TAMPA SPORTS HALL OF FAME.
01:39:30PM CITY OF TAMPA PROCLAIMED IN 2021 LEONARD LEVY WAY, THAT
01:39:36PM SHAPED THE CITY'S MODERN IDENTITY.
01:39:38PM MR. LEVY PASSED AWAY IN 2022 AT THE AGE OF 89.
01:39:43PM BROTHER GEORGE LEVY GRADUATED FROM PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND THE
01:39:51PM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
01:39:52PM AND SERVED IN THE ARMY BEFORE FOUNDING THE GEORGE A. LEVY
01:39:57PM AWARDS.
01:39:58PM HE SERVED AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AT
01:40:01PM HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND WAS APPOINTED TO THE 13th
01:40:04PM JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMITTEE.
01:40:05PM HE WAS A MEMBER AND PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA SPORTS
01:40:09PM CLUB AND SERVED THE TAMPA SPORTS AUTHORITY, HEALTH
01:40:12PM BOWL AND THE SUNSHINE STATE GAMES.
01:40:15PM HIS EFFORTS EXTENDED BEYOND SPORTS WITH EDUCATION, YOUTH AND
01:40:19PM SPECIAL NEEDS CAUSES.
01:40:20PM HE WAS A LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF TAMPA
01:40:24PM BAY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GOLD SHIELD FOUNDATION, AND
01:40:27PM SUPPORTER OF THE JAY CLIFFORD MacDONALD CENTER.
01:40:31PM HIS LEGACY INCLUDE FOUNDING THE SWIMMING ASSOCIATION WHERE
01:40:36PM HE ALSO COACHED YOUNG ATHLETES.
01:40:37PM RECOGNIZED FOR LEADERSHIP IN GENEROSITY, GEORGE WAS NAMED
01:40:41PM TAMPA CITIZEN OF THE YEAR, SMALL BUSINESS PERSON OF THE YEAR
01:40:43PM AND RECEIVED NUMEROUS HONORS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA,
01:40:46PM THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND LOCAL CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS.
01:40:50PM MR. LEVY PASSED AWAY IN 2016 AT THE AGE OF 83.
01:40:54PM TOGETHER, LEONARD AND GEORGE LEVY EMBODIED SPIRIT AND
01:41:00PM COMMUNITY BUILDING.
01:41:01PM INFLUENCE BROUGHT NATIONAL SPORTS, MAJOR EVENTS AND BROUGHT
01:41:05PM CIVIC INSTITUTIONS TO TAMPA.
01:41:07PM HELPED TRANSFORM TAMPA NOT ONLY BETTER PLACE TO LIVE BUT A
01:41:12PM CITY WITH GLOBAL REACH AND HOMETOWN PRIDE.
01:41:15PM FOR OUR DUE DILIGENCE, THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS
01:41:19PM THE INSTALLATION OF A HONORARY STREET NAMING SIGN AT NORTH
01:41:23PM HIMES AT WEST OHIO AVENUE.
01:41:26PM THIS LOCATION IS ADJACENT TO A HIGH-VOLUME PEDESTRIAN
01:41:31PM CROSSWALK THAT LEADS DIRECTLY INTO RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
01:41:34PM ENSURES THAT THE SIGN WILL BE SEEN BY COUNTLESS FANS,
01:41:37PM VISITORS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS TO
01:41:40PM COME.
01:41:41PM IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS HONORARY STREET
01:41:47PM NAMING, WE ASK A FIRST READING FOR SEPTEMBER 18 OR SOME TIME
01:41:51PM THEREAFTER.
01:41:52PM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:41:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
01:41:58PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:41:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
01:42:00PM GREAT PRESENTATION.
01:42:01PM LEARNED THINGS ABOUT THE LEVY BROTHERS.
01:42:05PM AND NOT ONLY WAS LEONARD LEVY -- I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS --
01:42:10PM WHAT THE OCCASION WAS, BUT YOU WOULD HEAR ABOUT HIM GROWING
01:42:13PM UP.
01:42:13PM HOW INSTRUMENTAL THEY WERE.
01:42:15PM YOU SAID IT ALL.
01:42:16PM WITH THE BUCS, WITH SPORTS, WITH GIVING BACK TO THE
01:42:20PM COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW.
01:42:21PM THEIR NAMES ARE WELL RECOGNIZED.
01:42:24PM AND I THINK THIS IS VERY FITTING BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY
01:42:27PM ARE NO LONGER WITH US, THEIR IMPACT IS STILL FELT.
01:42:30PM SO I AM HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO SET THIS FOR SEPTEMBER 18
01:42:33PM FOR A FIRST READING.
01:42:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:42:38PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:42:40PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:42:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
01:42:42PM I BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE DC GOUTOFAS IS THE ONE
01:42:50PM THAT ASKED FOR IT.
01:42:51PM CAME TO MY OFFICE THROUGH MARY AND MAYBE IT WAS YOUR -- I
01:42:55PM DON'T KNOW.
01:42:55PM WE DID IT AND THE BEST WE COULD WITH YOUR HELP AND OTHERS
01:42:58PM HELP.
01:42:59PM I HAVE KNOWN BOTH OF THE BROTHERS FOR MANY YEARS, THEY WERE
01:43:02PM NICE, NICE PEOPLE.
01:43:03PM AND THEY WERE QUITE ABLE TO GET UNDER YOUR SKIN.
01:43:09PM THEY HAD DO.
01:43:11PM WHAT YOU DID WAS 100% CORRECT.
01:43:14PM THEY WERE VERY NICE AND VERY CLOSE FRIENDS WITH MAYOR GRECO
01:43:18PM ALSO.
01:43:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS D.C. GOUTOUFAS THAT SPOKE THIS
01:43:25PM MORNING.
01:43:26PM REACHED OUT TO ME AND OTHER MEMBERS.
01:43:28PM BUT HE HAS BEEN A DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THIS.
01:43:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:43:33PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:43:34PM AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON?
01:43:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO ADD REAL FAST.
01:43:39PM I KNEW BOTH OF THEM.
01:43:40PM I KNEW SOME OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS.
01:43:42PM I DIDN'T KNOW THEM AS WELL AS PROBABLY COUNCIL MEMBER
01:43:45PM MIRANDA DID.
01:43:46PM BUT IN THE '90s AND 2000s, THEY WERE HUGE LEADERS.
01:43:51PM AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT THEM IS THAT, AS FAR AS I COULD
01:43:54PM TELL, THEY DIDN'T SEEK PUBLICITY.
01:43:57PM THEY DIDN'T SEEK RECOGNITION.
01:43:58PM BUT THEY MOVES MOUNTAINS OF MAKING POSITIVE THINGS HAPPEN
01:44:02PM IN THIS COMMUNITY.
01:44:02PM AND I THINK IT IS GREAT TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T
01:44:06PM REALLY ASK FOR RECOGNITION DURING THEIR HEYDAY.
01:44:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
01:44:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:44:13PM OPPOSED.
01:44:14PM AYES HAVE IT.
01:44:15PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:44:16PM >> JUST FOR THE LISTENING PUBLIC, WE WILL POST THIS ONLINE
01:44:20PM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT STARTING TOMORROW, WHICH IS AUGUST 8
01:44:24PM THROUGH MONDAYM AUGUST 25.
01:44:25PM >> COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:44:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:44:28PM I WORKED ON THIS THROUGH LUNCH WITH CHIEF BENNETT, AND WE
01:44:36PM THINK WE HAVE COME TO A RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 20.
01:44:40PM IF YOU WERE READY, WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
01:44:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL BRING ITEM 20 BACK TO THE TABLE.
01:44:45PM CHIEF BENNETT.
01:44:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO LET ME SORT OF SET THE STAGE.
01:44:50PM WHAT HAPPENED IS, THE RFQ WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT FIRE
01:44:54PM RESCUE AND -- I AM SORRY, ABOUT FIRE FLEET AND SUPPLY.
01:44:58PM IT DID NOT MENTION ANY OTHER ENTITY IN THE RFQ.
01:45:03PM WHERE LOWRY PARK CAME IN WAS THE SCOPE OF WORK.
01:45:06PM AND WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT PORTION OUT OF
01:45:10PM THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT IN THE SAME BREATH WHAT I DIDN'T
01:45:15PM KNOW, BECAUSE IT HAVEN'T COME TO US YET, IS THAT THEY HAVE
01:45:18PM CREATED A SEPARATE SCOPE -- OR A SEPARATE REQUEST -- WORK
01:45:27PM ORDER, THANK YOU, FOR THE LOWRY PARK -- FOR WHAT IS AT LOWRY
01:45:32PM PARK AND TO LOOK AT A -- WHAT'S THERE AND WHERE IT CAN GO.
01:45:36PM SO THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING.
01:45:38PM IT HAVEN'T COME TO US YET, BUT IT WILL.
01:45:41PM SO I WILL -- WITH THAT SAID, CORRECT ME ANYTHING I DIDN'T
01:45:46PM GET RIGHT.
01:45:47PM >>JOHN BENNETT: AGAIN, JOHN BENNETT, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHIEF
01:45:50PM OF STAFF.
01:45:50PM WITH ME IS -- WE HAVE DENNIS ROGERO, CFO, RICHER MUTTERBACK
01:45:58PM OVER CAD AND THE CC&A PROCESS, AND JUSTIN VASKE FROM LEGAL TO
01:46:04PM MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THINGS APPROPRIATELY.
01:46:06PM TO GO BACK WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
01:46:08PM I WANT TO RESET THE CHRONOLOGY.
01:46:11PM WHEN THE RFQ WAS SENT OUT, LOWRY WASN'T A THOUGHT.
01:46:16PM THAT KIND OF EMBEDDED LANGUAGE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY
01:46:21PM BOILERPLATE BUT WASN'T LOWRY SPECIFICS AT ALL.
01:46:23PM LOWRY CAME UP WHEN WE LANDED THE PROPERTY AND THE WORK ORDER
01:46:27PM CAME IN TO SEE IF IT WILL FIT OR NOT FIT.
01:46:30PM THE SCOPE IS ACCURATE BY ITS VAGUENESS, BUT BECAUSE LOWRY
01:46:34PM CAME UP IN THE JOURNEY WHEN THE PROPERTY CAME IN.
01:46:37PM THE QUESTION WOULD BE TO DECONFLICT THOSE.
01:46:42PM BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE TO THE RFQ PROCESS
01:46:46PM AND THE WORK ORDER -- SORRY, THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDES THAT
01:46:50PM LANGUAGE WHICH THEN BECAME NOW A WORK ORDER COMPLETELY
01:46:52PM SEPARATE AND APART TO SEE IF IT WILL FIT.
01:46:56PM WE ALREADY ARE CONFIDENT IT IS NOT JUST FOR THE RECORD.
01:46:59PM THAT THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM CHANGING IT.
01:47:01PM SO THE LEGAL PROCESS TO DO THAT.
01:47:03PM WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
01:47:04PM ONE, THAT THE CAD CAN GO BACK AND STRIKE THAT LANGUAGE AND
01:47:09PM BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR THE END OF THE DAY, OR TWO, I
01:47:13PM AM TOLD THERE IS NO RISK TO BRING THIS BACK ON THE 28th WITH
01:47:16PM THE MODIFIED SCOPE.
01:47:17PM IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE FROM THERE.
01:47:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:47:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT
01:47:24PM BACK BY THE END OF THE DAY, BUT I WANTED BOTH MR. MUTTERBACK
01:47:29PM AND -- AND CHIEF TRIPP IS HERE TOO, IF SHE HAS ANYTHING ELSE
01:47:33PM SHE WANTS TO SAY.
01:47:34PM BUT I -- JUST TO CLARIFY, WE KIND OF ALREADY HAVE SOME
01:47:39PM PRELIMINARY UNDERSTANDING THAT FLEET AND SUPPLY WILL FIT,
01:47:44PM BUT NOT ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.
01:47:47PM >>JOHN BENNETT: RIGHT, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SECOND PHASE
01:47:49PM OF WHEN -- REMEMBER THE INITIAL RFQ WAS LAND AGNOSTIC.
01:47:54PM IT WAS, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS ANALYSIS, ETC., TO DO THIS
01:47:59PM OPERATION.
01:47:59PM WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS PICKED UP LATER ON, WHEN THE CONCEPT,
01:48:02PM HEY, WE CAN FIT THIS AND A WORK ORDER TO SEE IF IT WILL GO
01:48:06PM COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
01:48:07PM WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON TODAY NEVER INCLUDED LOWRY AS PART OF
01:48:11PM THAT AT ALL.
01:48:11PM BUT IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO MAKE SURE THERE IS -- NO
01:48:16PM PUN INTENDED -- A FIREWALL IN THAT, THAT CAN BE EASILY DONE
01:48:22PM WITHOUT SUBSTANTIVELY CHANGING THE RFQ PROCESS.
01:48:26PM MODIFY THE SCOPE BY THE END OF THE DAY FOR A FORMAL VOTE AND
01:48:30PM DELAY IT TO THE 28th.
01:48:32PM THE SAME THING EITHER WAY.
01:48:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO GIVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTED TO
01:48:37PM HAVE --
01:48:38PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THEY MAY WANT TO JUST VALIDATE WHAT I AM
01:48:41PM SAYING.
01:48:42PM >> RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
01:48:45PM JUST A LITTLE BIT TO ADD ON.
01:48:47PM WHEN THE RFQ WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED, PART OF THAT SCOPE -- IT
01:48:51PM WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE $200,000 TO $300,000.
01:48:54PM PART OF THAT SCOPE WAS ASSISTING WITH SITE INVESTIGATIONS OF
01:48:57PM VARIOUS PROPERTIES.
01:48:58PM THE SAME WEEK THAT WE SELECTED THIS FIRM TO CARRY OUT THIS
01:49:03PM ASSESSMENT IS WHEN THIS PROPERTY CAME ABOUT.
01:49:05PM AND THEN IT ALL KIND OF CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
01:49:08PM AND THE WORK ORDER THAT BOTH YOU AND JOHN ARE REFERRING TO
01:49:13PM IS ALWAYS IN PLACE.
01:49:13PM THAT IS WHY THERE IS -- THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN WORK THROUGH
01:49:17PM WILDER, THE SAME FIRM WITH THE ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS WHY THE
01:49:20PM $200,000 TO $300,000 ESTIMATE IS COMING IN AT $142,000
01:49:25PM BECAUSE HE IS ABLE TO -- HE ALREADY HAS BEEN ABLE TO
01:49:28PM ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THAT SCOPE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE
01:49:30PM ORIGINAL RFQ.
01:49:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ANYTHING ELSE?
01:49:35PM CHIEF TRIPP WOULD YOU LIKE TO --
01:49:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO COME BACK LATER TODAY.
01:49:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO GIVE MR. ROGERO A CHANCE TO
01:49:47PM SPEAK.
01:49:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
01:49:50PM FROM WHAT I HEARD OF CHIEF BENNETT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
01:49:54PM WE CAN PASS AND COME TO THE END OF THE DAY.
01:49:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE IS SAYING AT THE END OF THE DAY HE IS
01:49:58PM COMING BACK --
01:50:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T MATTER.
01:50:02PM NO REAL RELEVANCE.
01:50:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE IS RELEVANCE.
01:50:05PM IT MATTERS.
01:50:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK -- MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
01:50:09PM ATTORNEY.
01:50:09PM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION RECOGNIZE AS
01:50:13PM THAT IT COULD COME OUT.
01:50:14PM AND THE TASK THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED IN THE SCOPE IS BEING
01:50:19PM HANDLED BY A WORK ORDER.
01:50:21PM THEREFORE, IT COULD COME OUT AND SHOULD COME OUT --
01:50:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STOP.
01:50:26PM STOP.
01:50:26PM LET ME EXPRESS MY OPINION WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
01:50:29PM WHAT HE JUST SAID IS THAT THE LANGUAGE IS NOT RELEVANT
01:50:33PM TO WHAT IS IN HERE.
01:50:35PM WE CAN PASS IT RIGHT NOW AND IT HAS ZERO CONSEQUENCE ON THE
01:50:38PM OUTCOME.
01:50:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR, IT DOES NOT.
01:50:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW DOES IT HAVE CONSEQUENCE.
01:50:43PM MR. SHELBY, STOP.
01:50:45PM MR. BENNETT, WHAT I SAID, IS THAT ACCURATE, IF IT CAME OUT
01:50:50PM OR STAYED IN HAVE ANY CONSEQUENCE ON THE OUTCOME.
01:50:54PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WILL ASK LEGAL TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE
01:50:57PM I DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I WAS
01:51:00PM EXPLAINED TO ME LAND AGNOSTIC NOTHING TO DO WITH LOWERY WHEN
01:51:06PM IT CAME OUT.
01:51:06PM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT COULD BE, BUT WE ARE PARTNERING
01:51:09PM THROUGH THIS TO GET TO THE RIGHT OUTCOME.
01:51:11PM BECAUSE THERE IS A SEPARATE WORK ORDER THAT WAS PROPERTY
01:51:14PM SPECIFIC INSTEAD OF AGNOSTIC, AGAIN, IT IS AN EXERCISE TO
01:51:18PM MAKE COUNCIL FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT THE JOURNEY WE ARE ON.
01:51:22PM BECAUSE THE PRIORITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN FIRE FLEET AND FIRE
01:51:25PM WAREHOUSING.
01:51:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
01:51:27PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I DEFER TO LEGAL TO MAKE SURE I AM ACCURATE.
01:51:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
01:51:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY.
01:51:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:51:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:51:36PM I THINK WE CAN RESOLVE THIS TODAY.
01:51:38PM IF NOT, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDRAW THE CONTRACT
01:51:42PM WHILE WE ARE STILL HERE AND IF ANOTHER NOT DONE BY THE TIME
01:51:44PM WE FINISH, WE CAN ALWAYS PUT IT FOR NEXT WEEK OR WHATEVER IT
01:51:48PM IS NEXT WEEK AND GET DONE.
01:51:49PM WE HAVE TWO SHOTS AT THE APPLE.
01:51:51PM TODAY OR IN THE FUTURE, THE 20th.
01:51:55PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:51:59PM TWO SCOPES, ONE IN THE WORK ORDER AND ONE IN THE CONTRACT.
01:52:03PM THEY ARE SIMILAR IF NOT IDENTICAL.
01:52:06PM CLEANEST ROUTE IS TO CLEAN UP THE AGREEMENT IF WE ARE NOT
01:52:09PM GOING TO PERFORM THAT TASK UNDER THAT AGREEMENT.
01:52:12PM CLEAN IT UP.
01:52:13PM THE QUESTION IS, WHEN DO WE DO IT?
01:52:15PM UP TO CITY COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AT THAT POINT.
01:52:17PM WE CAN DO THE SCOPE THIS AFTERNOON AND RUN IT BACK HERE OR
01:52:23PM DO IT FOR THE 28th AND HAVE IT CLEANED UP THAT WAY.
01:52:27PM IT IS YOUR PLEASURE.
01:52:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:52:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:52:31PM COUPLE OF THINGS.
01:52:32PM IT IS ON.
01:52:33PM YES.
01:52:34PM SO A COUPLE OF THINGS WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE
01:52:38PM BEGINNING OF THIS -- OF THIS FACILITY.
01:52:40PM AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE FOR -- BETWEEN ANOTHER YEAR AND A
01:52:44PM HALF OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE AND WE WANT TO MAKE THAT
01:52:49PM AGAIN CORRECT.
01:52:50PM AS AN ATTORNEY, I HAD A MEDIATION TWO DAYS AGO WHERE WE
01:52:53PM SETTLED EIGHT CASES, AND I WAS JOKING WITH ANOTHER LAWYER.
01:52:56PM I SAID IF THERE IS A 2% CHANCE OF SOMETHING HAPPENING AND
01:52:59PM YOU SPEND 100% OF THE NEXT HOURS, IS IT LIKELY TO HAPPEN?
01:53:09PM NO BUT GOOD TO BE SAFE.
01:53:10PM WHETHER WE DO IT TODAY OR IN TWO WEEKS, SO LONG AS WE
01:53:14PM ADDRESS THAT.
01:53:15PM ME -- I THINK IT IS JUST ME.
01:53:17PM I THINK IT IS PROBABLY BETTER TO WAIT TO MAKE SURE WE GET
01:53:19PM THE LANGUAGE RIGHT.
01:53:20PM AND I WOULD OBVIOUSLY DEFER IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WANTS TO
01:53:25PM MEET WITH STAFF ON THE LANGUAGE AND EVERYTHING.
01:53:27PM BUT I AM FINE WITH WHATEVER DELAY IS NECESSARY FOR IT
01:53:30PM REASONABLY.
01:53:30PM I KNOW NEXT WEEK WE WON'T HAVE COUNCIL, BUT IN TWO WEEKS.
01:53:34PM I THINK IT CAN BE DONE.
01:53:36PM 3%, 2% THING.
01:53:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:53:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE JUSTIN'S ADVICE AND
01:53:42PM JUST EDIT IT AND BRING IT BACK TODAY.
01:53:44PM BUT I CAN ASK YOU ONE QUESTION, JUSTIN, OF THE RELEVANCE OF
01:53:49PM THIS.
01:53:49PM THE MASTER CONTRACT THAT COVERS THIS.
01:53:51PM IS THIS ONE OF THOSE OPEN-ENDED CONTRACTS THAT COUNCIL
01:53:54PM APPROVED AND DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE TO GET OUR
01:54:03PM PERMISSION ON THE APPROVALS BUT BECAUSE OF THE MASTER
01:54:05PM CONTRACTS, CAN THEY INSTRUCT THE CONTRACTORS TO DO WHATEVER
01:54:08PM THEY WANT.
01:54:09PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: IN TERMS OF THE WORK ORDER, THAT IS ONE
01:54:12PM UNDER $200,000 THAT YOU APPROVED IN BULK ESSENTIALLY.
01:54:15PM SO THAT SCOPE WILL BE APPROVED BY THE ADMINISTRATION SO --
01:54:20PM AND THEN THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU ARE APPROVING TODAY,
01:54:22PM ALTHOUGH IT IS UNDER $200,000, THAT IS AN ACTUAL AGREEMENT.
01:54:26PM NOT A WORK ORDER AGREEMENT.
01:54:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
01:54:29PM YEAH, YOU KNOW THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES I VOTED AGAINST
01:54:32PM THOSE UMBRELLA AGREEMENTS BECAUSE I THINK THERE SHOULD BE
01:54:35PM MORE REVIEW BY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WITH THE
01:54:40PM INTERPRETATION.
01:54:40PM I WILL GO WITH HAVING IT EDITED TODAY AND APPROVED TODAY.
01:54:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CONCUR WITH THAT.
01:54:48PM MY BIGGEST FEAR IS I DON'T WANT TO DERAIL THIS PROJECT.
01:54:52PM I DON'T WANT TO DERAIL THE ACQUISITION.
01:54:54PM I THOUGHT THIS DIMINIMUS LANGUAGE IN THIS THING, THE RISK OF
01:54:59PM IT DERAILING THE PROJECT WAS RIDICULOUS.
01:55:01PM A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:55:03PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:55:04PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:55:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE WORKED THROUGH LUNCH
01:55:08PM TO MAKE SURE -- THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WAS MOVING THIS
01:55:12PM FORWARD.
01:55:12PM MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN GET STARTED FOR FLEET AND SUPPLY,
01:55:19PM BUT BEFORE WE VOTE, I DID ASK IF CHIEF TRIPP WANTED TO SAY
01:55:23PM ANYTHING.
01:55:23PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.
01:55:25PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF.
01:55:27PM FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
01:55:30PM I NOTICED THIS MORNING IN THE MEETING, A LOT OF CONVERSATION
01:55:32PM WAS GOING ON AS FAR AS WHAT THIS PROPERTY IS FOR, WHAT IT IS
01:55:36PM GOING TO BE USED FOR.
01:55:37PM BUT TO CORRESPOND OFF OF CHIEF BENNETT, WHEN WE HAVE -- WHEN
01:55:42PM WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, THE PRIMARY FOCUS FOR THE FIRE
01:55:45PM FLEET AND SUPPLY BECAUSE OF THE INSUFFICIENCY OF HOW THAT IS
01:55:49PM OPERATING NOW.
01:55:50PM ADDITION CAME ON LATER.
01:55:52PM OF COURSE, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT.
01:55:54PM WHEN SOMEONE SAID I AM NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.
01:55:57PM THAT'S CORRECT.
01:55:58PM I AM NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET BUT
01:56:03PM I AM WITH THAT DEPARTMENT AND WHAT IT NEEDS AND WHAT IS
01:56:06PM GOING ON.
01:56:07PM CURRENTLY, YES, I ASKED FOR LAMBORGHINI, AND I AM OKAY WITH A
01:56:12PM FORD.
01:56:12PM THE REASON I SAY THAT, BECAUSE OF HOW THE CITY SUSPENDING --
01:56:18PM WE ARE ALL HAZARD AGENCY AND WE PROVIDE SERVICES THROUGHOUT
01:56:22PM THE STATE.
01:56:22PM I HAVE EQUIPMENT IN OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN STORED.
01:56:26PM I NEED TO HAVE, LIKE, ONE CENTRAL LOCATION.
01:56:28PM BY ASKING FOR TEN ACRES, YES, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE PROPERTY
01:56:32PM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS -- IS AND GONE.
01:56:35PM SO IF THERE IS AREAS WHERE WE CAN PUT ADDITIONAL FACILITIES
01:56:39PM IN THERE AS WELL.
01:56:39PM BUT I WANTING TO GO WITH FIVE, FIVE OR SIX TO MAXIMIZE WHAT
01:56:44PM WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING OFF OF NOW.
01:56:46PM AS YOU KNOW, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAVE THEIR BIG FLEET
01:56:50PM FACILITY.
01:56:50PM I BELIEVE THEY ARE ON FIVE OR SIX ACRES AND THEY HAVE
01:56:53PM OUTGROWN THAT.
01:56:53PM BEFORE I EVEN CAME TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL ACREAGE, I DID
01:56:57PM RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, TO SEE, OKAY, HOW MANY VEHICLES WE HAVE.
01:57:00PM WHERE ARE OUR RESOURCES WHERE WE ARE GOING TO STORE THEM?
01:57:04PM AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF GET ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR THAT.
01:57:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR -- MR. ROGERO.
01:57:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
01:57:13PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
01:57:17PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL I APOLOGIZE IF THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT
01:57:24PM ITEM.
01:57:24PM MISSTATEMENTS WERE MADE OF ME AND OF MY OFFICE BY COUNCIL
01:57:32PM MEMBER CARLSON THAT I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.
01:57:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL DENY THAT OPPORTUNITY NOW AND DO
01:57:38PM THAT IN THE NEXT ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE
01:57:42PM ON WITH THE AGENDA TODAY.
01:57:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:57:45PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
01:57:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION AND A SECOND TO COME BACK AT THE
01:57:54PM CLOSE OF BUSINESS AND YOU NEED TO GO FAST.
01:57:56PM BECAUSE WE WILL MOVE PART.
01:57:58PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:57:59PM AYES HAVE IT.
01:58:00PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:58:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, I -- ONE OTHER THING.
01:58:04PM HE ALREADY LEFT.
01:58:06PM I WANTED TO ASK MR. MUTTERBACK -- IF YOU COULD GRAB HIM.
01:58:10PM BECAUSE -- AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK AND
01:58:16PM POSSIBLY CHIEF TRIPP, MAYBE CHIEF BENNETT CAN HELP ME WITH
01:58:21PM THIS.
01:58:21PM I JUST -- I ALSO WANTED TO TELL THE PUBLIC OR TALK -- TALK
01:58:26PM ABOUT THE IDEA TODAY THAT ONCE WE GET THIS SIX-MONTH
01:58:30PM PREPARATION DONE, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO MULTIPLE THINGS
01:58:34PM AT ONCE.
01:58:34PM MR. MUTTERBACK.
01:58:36PM I WAS SAYING -- ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO VERY
01:58:40PM BRIEFLY HIT ON TODAY IS ONCE WE GET THIS SIX-MONTH SCOPE,
01:58:44PM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT PUZZLE PIECE FITTING THAT WE CAN ALSO
01:58:48PM DO SITE PREPARATION, ANY TEST WE GO NEED TO DO PLUS A DESIGN
01:58:57PM FOR THE STATION AT THE SAME TIME.
01:58:58PM WHAT MIGHT -- SORRY, NOT A STATION, SUPPLY AND FLEET
01:59:04PM BUILDING.
01:59:04PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
01:59:08PM TIMELINE WISE, YOU WANT THE ASSESSMENT COMPLETE BEFORE YOU
01:59:12PM GO INTO DESIGN.
01:59:12PM BECAUSE THAT WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DESIGN.
01:59:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING THOUGH.
01:59:17PM >> DURING THE SIX MONTHS THEY WILL BE INTERVIEWING ALL
01:59:20PM STAKEHOLDERS, FIRE FLEET.
01:59:21PM LOOKING AT THE EXISTING STUFF.
01:59:23PM LOOKING AT THAT -- SO WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER WE NEED 35,000
01:59:27PM SQUARE FEET, 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN.
01:59:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I AM ASKING ONCE THAT IS DONE, ONCE WE
01:59:33PM ARE DONE WITH THE ASSESSMENT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO MULTIPLE
01:59:36PM THINGS AT ONCE.
01:59:37PM TESTING THE SOIL WHILE WE ARE DESIGNING.
01:59:40PM >> WE WILL TAKE THAT INFORMATION FROM THE ASSESSMENT AND PUT
01:59:44PM OUT A RFQ TO HIRE THE FIRM DOING THE DESIGN AND
01:59:48PM CONSTRUCTION IF WE GO DESIGN-BUILD.
01:59:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:59:51PM I WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS AND HOW WE WILL
01:59:55PM MOVE ON IT.
01:59:56PM >> NEXT SIX MONTHS AND THE ANOTHER SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS WE
01:59:59PM WILL GET INTO DESIGN IN ABOUT A YEAR AND 14 MONTHS.
02:00:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
02:00:03PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:00:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:00:05PM MR. BENNETT.
02:00:06PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
02:00:08PM I WANT TO MEET COUNCIL'S EXPECTATION OF BRINGING THIS BACK.
02:00:11PM THEY ARE GOING TO HUSTLE UP THE AMENDED SCOPE AND GET IT
02:00:16PM BACK.
02:00:16PM WE WILL BE MONITORING THE TIME SEQUENCE OF COUNCIL.
02:00:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN THE DOORS FLY OPEN, I WILL BREAK
02:00:24PM BUSINESS.
02:00:24PM AND WE WILL TRY TO GET DONE WITH THE OTHER STAFF REPORTS.
02:00:28PM WE ARE ON ITEM 53.
02:00:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: MISS McKENZIE IS HERE.
02:00:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
02:00:37PM >> NO WORRIES.
02:01:01PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:01:02PM BRENDA McKENZIE, DIRECTOR OF WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE
02:01:06PM CITY.
02:01:07PM AND I AM HAPPY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT THE CONCEPT OF HAVING
02:01:12PM AN OFFICE FOR RETURNING CITIZENS.
02:01:13PM WE REALLY WORKED HARD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TO MAKE SURE
02:01:17PM WE ARE INCLUSIVE OF ALL OF OUR WORKFORCE.
02:01:20PM AND RETURNING CITIZENS ARE THOSE THAT ARE JUST AS INVOLVED
02:01:24PM IS A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT.
02:01:26PM OUR ESTIMATE IS ABOUT -- AROUND 2,000 PEOPLE A YEAR RETURN
02:01:30PM TO OUR COMMUNITY.
02:01:32PM AND BECAUSE WE ARE AT A POINT OF FULL EMPLOYMENT, IT IS
02:01:35PM REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE ACTIVATING ALL YOU HAVE OUR
02:01:38PM WORKFORCE INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS.
02:01:41PM WE REALLY APPROACHED THIS FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF ECONOMIC
02:01:45PM MOBILITY.
02:01:45PM SO WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THEM INTO, NOT
02:01:49PM JUST JOBS, BUT CAREERS THAT WILL SERVICE THEM OVER A
02:01:54PM LIFETIME.
02:01:54PM CONSEQUENTLY, THE PROGRAM YOU APPROVED FOR THE RETURNING
02:01:57PM CITIZENS PILOT, THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.
02:02:00PM WE WORK WITH A. BROWN MINISTRIES WITH YOUR APPROVAL.
02:02:05PM AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TOUCH OVER 1,000 FOLKS SO FAR IN
02:02:08PM JUST OVER A YEAR AND A HALF, CONNECTING THEM TO IMPORTANT
02:02:13PM COUNSELING RESOURCES, GETTING THEM PLACED INTO JOBS, AND
02:02:16PM ALSO DOING THE FOLLOW-UP.
02:02:18PM WE ARE HOPING -- HOPEFUL THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT
02:02:21PM AND THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THOSE PROGRAMS WILL BE ABLE TO
02:02:25PM SERVICE OTHER INDIVIDUALS AND SHARE THAT AS WELL.
02:02:27PM WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NEEDS THAT THE
02:02:31PM POPULATION HAS, AND THERE ARE SOME STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH
02:02:34PM THE POPULATION.
02:02:35PM SO THE MAYOR'S WORKFORCE COUNCIL HAS ADVISED PART OF OUR
02:02:41PM GOOD JOBS, GREAT CAREERS PLAN THAT WE HAVE A WHOLE SECTION
02:02:44PM THAT IS FOCUSED ON RETURNING CITIZENS AND ENGAGING RETURNING
02:02:47PM CITIZENS.
02:02:47PM WE HAD A TASK FORCE THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT THAT HELPED
02:02:51PM TO INFORM US YOU HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE CAN
02:02:53PM MOVE FORWARD WITH IN ORDER TO REALLY MAKE SURE WE ARE
02:02:56PM ACTIVATING THAT POPULATION.
02:02:58PM WE ALSO STOOD UP A WEB SITE AS PART OF THE TAMPA WRX WEB SITE.
02:03:05PM THERE IS A LANDING PAGE FOR RETURNING CITIZENS.
02:03:09PM THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT CAME FROM OUR RESEARCH THAT
02:03:12PM INDIVIDUALS IN THIS CATEGORY DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT
02:03:16PM ALL OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR THEM.
02:03:18PM SO IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY, YOU CAN
02:03:21PM COME HERE.
02:03:22PM WE CAN LINK YOU TO RESOURCES THERE.
02:03:24PM SO WE HAVE STARTED TO OPEN THE DOOR, IF YOU WILL, TO
02:03:31PM ADDITIONAL WAYS TO SERVE THE POPULATION SO THEY KNOW WHAT IS
02:03:34PM AVAILABLE TO THEM IN THE CITY.
02:03:36PM ONE THING WE ARE WORKING ON NOW IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
02:03:40PM NOT JUST TOUCHING PEOPLE AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED.
02:03:44PM BUT TRYING TO INTERCEPT BEFORE THAT HAPPENS AS WELL.
02:03:47PM SO WE ARE LOOKING AT JUSTICE INVOLVED OR JUSTICE-IMPACTED
02:03:53PM YOUTH.
02:03:53PM OPENING THE RECONNECTION CENTER IN HANNA EARLIER THIS YEAR
02:03:58PM IN DECEMBER, WE MADE SURE THAT IN OUR GUIDELINES, ALL OF THE
02:04:01PM AGENCIES THAT WOULD BE SERVICING THAT -- THAT FACILITY HAVE
02:04:05PM INFORMATION AND KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH JUSTICE IMPACTED YOUTH
02:04:09PM SO THEY CAN BE ENCOMPASSED AND HAVE ALL THE BENEFITS FROM
02:04:12PM THAT AS WELL.
02:04:13PM SO IN LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR OFFICIAL OFFICE OF RETURNING
02:04:18PM CITIZENS, THERE IS A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT HAVE DONE BEFORE
02:04:22PM WHICH GIVES AN EXTRA LAYER OF SERVICE FROM WHAT WE ARE ABLE
02:04:26PM TO DO NOW.
02:04:26PM D.C. DOES ONE, NEW ORLEANS, PHILLY.
02:04:29PM SO IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE.
02:04:31PM JUST A MATTER OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
02:04:34PM WITH ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OTHER AREAS WE DON'T COVER NOW
02:04:38PM THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS.
02:04:39PM THERE ARE PARTICULAR LEGAL NEEDS THAT ARE SPECIFICS TO THE
02:04:43PM POPULATION THAT ARE SUPER IMPORTANT.
02:04:45PM HOUSING IS ANOTHER AREA.
02:04:48PM AS WE KNOW, THERE IS CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT MAKE IT MORE
02:04:51PM DIFFICULT FOR THIS POPULATION TO -- TO SEEK HOUSING AND
02:04:56PM PEER-TO-PEER COUNSEL SOMETHING TYPICALLY A BIG COMPONENT TO
02:04:59PM MAKE SURE WE HAVE LONG-TERM SUCCESS.
02:05:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
02:05:03PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:05:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
02:05:06PM VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION.
02:05:07PM WE SPOKE YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS.
02:05:09PM AND I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
02:05:11PM I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING WE CAN START IT HERE WITH THIS
02:05:14PM ADMINISTRATION AND THIS COUNCIL AND THEN WHOEVER THE NEXT
02:05:16PM MAYOR AND NEXT CITY COUNCIL CAN BUILD ON IT.
02:05:19PM YOU MENTIONED SOME CITIES.
02:05:20PM MOST A VERY ROBUST ONE AS WELL.
02:05:23PM AND THIS IS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
02:05:24PM EVERY YEAR 650,000 FOLKS LEAVE OUR PRISON SYSTEM AND BEEN
02:05:28PM THREE YEARS, TWO-THIRDS OF THOSE FOLKS WILL REOFFEND.
02:05:31PM AND YOU KNOW PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS ISSUE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
02:05:34PM I ALWAYS SAID THAT YOU GOT TO BE TOUGH ON VIOLENT CRIME AND
02:05:38PM TOUGH ON THE CAUSES OF VIOLENT CRIME.
02:05:40PM I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
02:05:41PM THE TWO GO TOGETHER.
02:05:43PM FOR ME AN ISSUE OF FAMILY.
02:05:45PM I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
02:05:47PM EVERY FAMILY IS AFFECTED BY THIS.
02:05:50PM EVERY FAMILY IS AFFECTED BE THIS, OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS
02:05:54PM AND DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS FAITH AND FORTH.
02:05:57PM EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES AND A LOT OF US GET CAUGHT.
02:06:00PM I MEAN "US" AS IN "ME."
02:06:05PM WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES.
02:06:07PM EFFORT OF PREVENTION OF CRIME.
02:06:08PM YOU TAKE SOMEBODY AND THEY MAKE A BIG MISTAKE AND GO BACK
02:06:13PM OUT THERE.
02:06:13PM IF THEY WANT TO USE THEIR GOD-GIVEN POTENTIAL TO PUT FOOD
02:06:20PM ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR FAMILY.
02:06:21PM WE SHOULDN'T SHAME PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM NEW LEPERS OF OUR
02:06:27PM SOCIETY BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT.
02:06:28PM IT IS AN ISSUE OF FAITH.
02:06:29PM YOU LOOK AT EVERY MAJOR FAITH.
02:06:33PM JEWISH, ISLAMIC, CHRISTIAN, CATHOLIC, WHATEVER, HAVE
02:06:37PM RETURNING CITIZENS MINISTRIES BECAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT
02:06:39PM LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT SOCIETY DOESN'T SEE.
02:06:43PM HAPPEN TO BE A CHRISTIAN.
02:06:44PM JESUS ALWAYS TAUGHT US TO SEE PEOPLE THAT OTHERS DON'T SEE.
02:06:47PM AND THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT OBVIOUSLY.
02:06:51PM AND AN ISSUE OF HUMAN DECENCY.
02:06:54PM THANK YOU, WES PRUGH, MY FORMER INTERN.
02:06:58PM SUCH A COOL YOUNG MAN AND ALL THAT STUFF.
02:07:00PM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.
02:07:02PM BRIAN STEVENSON WITH EQUAL JUSTICE BETTER THAN OUR WORST
02:07:08PM MISTAKE THAT WE HAVE DONE.
02:07:09PM 1% TO 2% SORRY, TOO BAD.
02:07:11PM BUT I THINK THAT IS VERY TRUE 100 %.
02:07:14PM NO, NOBODY UP HERE.
02:07:15PM I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY TRUE.
02:07:19PM I SEE NO CONFLICT ON THIS.
02:07:21PM FOR EXAMPLE, I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN SOMEONE WHO IS PRO-LAW
02:07:26PM ENFORCEMENT.
02:07:26PM NO CONFLICT IN THIS WHATSOEVER.
02:07:28PM NOTHING TO DO WITH SUPPORTING -- HAVING GOOD POLICIES ON
02:07:32PM CRIME.
02:07:32PM SUPPORTS POLICE.
02:07:33PM IF ANYTHING THIS SUPPORTS LOWER CRIME AND INTERVENES AND
02:07:36PM GIVES PEOPLE HOPE.
02:07:37PM YOU GIVE SOMEBODY A JOB.
02:07:38PM YOU GIVE SOMEBODY RESPECT.
02:07:39PM YOU GIVE SOMEBODY HOUSING LIKE PORTICO HOUSING INITIATIVE
02:07:45PM THAT I WANT THE CITY TO SUPPORT.
02:07:46PM THAT PREVENTS CRIME AND RESTORES A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
02:07:50PM SO THE WAY I SEE THIS IS -- AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT
02:07:53PM YESTERDAY -- THIS OFFICE WHICH WOULD PUT THE CITY OF TAMPA
02:07:56PM ON THE MAP HERE IN THE "FREE" STATE OF FLORIDA.
02:07:58PM AND I SAY THAT WITH QUOTES.
02:07:59PM AND IN THE "FREE" STATE OF FLORIDA FOR FORWARD-LOOKING
02:08:05PM COMPASSION.
02:08:06PM I SEE IT WITH WRAP-AROUND SERVICES AND TO ABE BROWN
02:08:11PM MINISTRIES, LIKE THE PORTICO AND SO FORTH.
02:08:14PM I SEE IT FOR REFERRAL AND LEGAL ASSISTANCE.
02:08:17PM I HAVE BEEN MEANING TO DO THIS FOR YEARS AND I AM GOING TO
02:08:20PM DO IT.
02:08:20PM CALL MY FRIENDS AT THE GEORGE EDGECOMB ASSOCIATION AND FOR
02:08:25PM WOMEN LAWYERS AND HISPANIC BAR AND GET GROUPS TO PETITION
02:08:30PM THE COURT UNDER THE MASSACRED AMENDMENT 4 FROM 2018, TO HAVE
02:08:35PM FEES AND FINES TO RELEASE SO PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE.
02:08:41PM BIGGEST STAKEHOLDERS.
02:08:44PM ANOTHER REASON FOR THIS ISSUE, PEOPLE SEE THIS ISSUE, I AM
02:08:46PM NOT TOUCHING THAT.
02:08:47PM NOT A SAFE ISSUE DEALING WITH CRIMINALS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
02:08:50PM IT IS A SAFE ISSUE.
02:08:52PM IF YOU ARE A FAMILY MEMBER, EVERY FAMILY HAS SOMEONE WHO HAS
02:08:55PM DONE A MISTAKE AND GOTTEN CAUGHT AND IN NEED OF -- MIND YOU,
02:08:59PM THEY PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY.
02:09:01PM AND THEY ARE OUT IN.
02:09:02PM I AM NOT TALKING OF SEX OFFENDERS AND MURDERERS.
02:09:06PM I AM TALKING ABOUT THE FOLKS -- 90% OF THE PEOPLE PAID
02:09:10PM THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY.
02:09:11PM SO MANY GREAT GROUPS.
02:09:12PM THE PORTICO, WHY, JUSTIN DE LA ROSA.
02:09:16PM GREATEST GUY IN THE WORLD, THE JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER
02:09:20PM FEDERATION TO HELP US WITH THE FIRST ONE.
02:09:21PM OUR FRIENDS AT THE -- WHAT IS THAT, DESMOND NEAL VOTES
02:09:26PM GROUP, FLORIDA RIGHTS COALITION THAT DID SO MUCH WORK FOR
02:09:31PM AMENDMENT 4 AND ABE BROWN MINISTRIES.
02:09:33PM TELLING PEOPLE JESUS IS ALIVE ON EARTH HE WOULD BE VOLUNTEERING
02:09:41PM AT ABE BROWN MINISTRIES.
02:09:42PM WITH COUNCIL'S CONSENT IS TO DO A MOTION TO PERHAPS COME
02:09:48PM BACK ON THIS -- FOR AN UPDATE OF WHERE IT IS GOING AND
02:09:54PM EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
02:09:54PM JUST TELL ME HOW MUCH TIME AGAIN WITH COUNCIL'S CONSENT.
02:09:57PM BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD ISSUE THAT TAMPA COULD
02:10:01PM HAVE A GOOD FOOTPRINT ON.
02:10:03PM ISSUE OF COMPASSION AND SEEING THE BEST IN PEOPLE.
02:10:07PM SO IMPORTANT.
02:10:08PM SEEING THE BEST IN PEOPLE.
02:10:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:10:12PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:10:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:10:15PM THIS IS IMPORTANT DISCUSSION AND I APPRECIATE IT.
02:10:17PM HE WAS GOING TO ASK, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS?
02:10:21PM COMING BACK WITH AN UPDATE, BUT WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS TO
02:10:25PM MOVE THIS OFFICE FORWARD?
02:10:27PM >> SO WE HAVE TRIED TO MAXIMIZE ALL THAT WE CAN DO WITH THE
02:10:30PM CONSTANT BUDGET FUNDING IN TERMS OF REFERRING SERVICES AND
02:10:34PM MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF ALL THAT IS
02:10:38PM AVAILABLE SO WE CAN SHARE THAT.
02:10:39PM BUT IF WE WANT TO UP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE LIKE OTHER CITIES,
02:10:43PM WE WILL HAVE TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN ORDER TO MAKE
02:10:47PM SURE THAT HAPPENS.
02:10:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:10:49PM I WILL LET YOU LEAD.
02:10:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WHAT IS THE WISH OF COUNCIL?
02:10:53PM ANYBODY ELSE?
02:10:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:10:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:10:58PM WHAT -- WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFF-LINE.
02:11:00PM WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT DO WE NEED TO GET THIS -- I WOULD HOPE
02:11:05PM THAT THE NEXT MAYOR -- BY THE WAY THIS IS PART OF THE RACIAL
02:11:06PM RECONCILIATION AGENDA AND TO TELL THE BOARD THEY CAN MAKE THE
02:11:11PM THE ISSUES THE PART OF THE NEXT MAYOR'S RACE.
02:11:16PM LOOK THEM IN THE EYE, WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH RETURNING
02:11:19PM CITIZENS AND WHAT YOU WILL DO WITH THIS OFFICE.
02:11:21PM WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A GOOD AMOUNT FOR THE BEGINNING, SO TO
02:11:26PM SPEAK.
02:11:26PM >> OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WOULD WANT TO CONNECT WITH MIKE
02:11:29PM PERRY IN THE BUDGET OFFICE AND GET A LEVEL SET BEFORE COMING
02:11:33PM BACK.
02:11:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL WORK WITH HAGAR, OUR GOOD FRIEND WHO DOES
02:11:40PM SUCH A GREAT JOB.
02:11:41PM AND I NEED TO LOOK AT MY CALENDAR -- LET ME PUT IT ON THE
02:11:45PM CALENDAR.
02:11:46PM TRUST ME, I AM A VERY STUPID SMART GUY.
02:11:51PM WHAT DO YOU THINK, IN OCTOBER?
02:11:53PM DO YOU THINK OCTOBER?
02:11:54PM OKAY.
02:11:55PM LET'S DO THAT.
02:11:57PM DO WE HAVE -- HOW DOES THAT CALENDAR LOOK THERE?
02:12:01PM HOW ABOUT OCTOBER 23?
02:12:03PM THAT APPEARS TO BE --
02:12:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU PUT YOUR WISHES AND DESIRES IN THE
02:12:07PM FORM OF A MOTION?
02:12:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, I KNOW, RIGHT.
02:12:09PM IF I MAY, MOTION TO HAVE CITY STAFF INCLUDING MISS McKENZIE
02:12:14PM RETURN TO US OCTOBER 23 WITH THE UPDATE ON THE FORMAL
02:12:18PM CREATION OF THE OFFICE OF RETURNING CITIZENS FOR THE CITY OF
02:12:21PM TAMPA.
02:12:21PM AND BETWEEN THEN, WE WILL DEAL WITH THE BUDGET ISSUE.
02:12:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:12:26PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:12:28PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:12:29PM OPPOSED.
02:12:29PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:12:31PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:12:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
02:12:34PM THANK YOU.
02:12:35PM ITEM 56.
02:12:36PM STAFF AND LEGAL TO COME BACK WANT ORDINANCE CONSISTENT WITH
02:12:42PM STATE LAWS.
02:12:42PM MEMO FROM JUSTIN.
02:12:44PM JUSTIN, SIR.
02:12:45PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:12:52PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEMO THAT I
02:12:55PM SUBMITTED.
02:12:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:12:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
02:13:00PM AGAIN, MISS McKENZIE AND I HAD A LOT OF COOL CONVERSATIONS
02:13:04PM YESTERDAY.
02:13:04PM FOR PURPOSES OF HISTORY, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE PASSED
02:13:07PM APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE WHICH I THINK IT WAS AWESOME.
02:13:12PM BUT WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND WITH THE
02:13:14PM LABOR UNIONS TO GET.
02:13:16PM YOU KNOW WE STARTED FROM THE MIDDLE.
02:13:18PM TOOK OFF SOME OF THE EXCESSES, IN MY OPINION, WHAT ST. PETE
02:13:21PM DID AND WENT FOR THE MIDDLE AND HAD A REASONABLE MANDATE.
02:13:24PM ULTIMATELY, WHAT TALLAHASSEE DID, LOOKING AT THINGS THAT SAN
02:13:30PM FRANCISCO DID AND FRIENDS NEW TAMPA, PREEMPTED.
02:13:33PM OUR ORDINANCE WAS MORE MODERATE AND WE SURVIVED FOR
02:13:37PM THREE YEARS.
02:13:37PM WE NEVER GOT SUED.
02:13:39PM THAT WAS MY NUMBER ONE INTENT TO NEVER GET SUED ON THAT.
02:13:42PM WHATEVER TALLAHASSEE WAS GOING TO DO, THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
02:13:46PM WE LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY WE COULD NOT DO ANY SORT OF A
02:13:50PM MANDATE OF HAVING INCENTIVES.
02:13:52PM I THINK THAT IS JUST LAME.
02:13:55PM THE IDEA YOU WILL TELL A CONTRACTOR IF YOU CREATE A CERTAIN
02:13:58PM NUMBER OF APPRENTICESHIPS STATE-CERTIFIED, WE WILL GIVE YOU
02:14:02PM MONEY.
02:14:03PM I THINK THAT WILL LIKELY DO IT ANYWAY, OR THEY ARE NOT GOING
02:14:06PM TO DO IT, WHATEVER, I THINK THAT IS A SOFT FORM OF
02:14:10PM TRICKLE-DOWN ECONOMICS ANYWAY.
02:14:11PM WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS.
02:14:14PM AND YOU HAVE A GOOD PATHWAY FOR THIS IS THAT YOU USE THOSE
02:14:17PM DOLLARS THAT WE WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY USE TO A DEGREE FOR THAT.
02:14:20PM AND ALSO IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS ORDINANCE.
02:14:22PM AND TO FUND EXISTING APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.
02:14:26PM YOU TALKED ABOUT -- I BELIEVE IT WAS HCC -- WHAT SOME OF OUR
02:14:30PM UNION FRIENDS AND OTHER TRADE ASSOCIATION DO TO FUND THEM.
02:14:32PM BECAUSE THE IDEA HERE ISN'T NECESSARILY TO DO A MANDATE.
02:14:37PM DO SOMETHING THAT WORKS.
02:14:38PM IF TALLAHASSEE TOOK AWAY OUR BEST TOOL, THAT SUCKS, BUT WE
02:14:42PM GOT TO LOOK AT ANOTHER WAY.
02:14:43PM SO, IF I MAY ASK MISS McKENZIE.
02:14:47PM CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THAT BUDGET INVESTMENT?
02:14:50PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
02:14:51PM SO OUR INTENTION WAS ACTUALLY HAVE A PERSON-CENTERED AID
02:14:55PM APPROACH.
02:14:55PM WE REALLY WANTED TO GROW THE NUMBER OF APPRENTICES.
02:14:58PM THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS GETTING THAT TYPE OF TRAINING.
02:15:02PM WITH THE STATE APPLICATION, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THE
02:15:05PM APPROACH WE DID WITH THE -- WITH THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
02:15:08PM BUT WE CAN STILL WORK WITH PEOPLE.
02:15:10PM SO WHAT WE HAVE STARTED TO PILOT WITH HILLSBOROUGH COLLEGE
02:15:15PM IS A PROGRAM AND IN THE TRADES AND MECHANICS WHERE WE -- WE
02:15:19PM PAY SOME OF THE COSTS RELATED TO THE PROGRAMS.
02:15:22PM SO WE ARE LOOKING ATPAYING FOR THEIR BOOKS THAT COULD BE QUITE
02:15:30PM SUBSTANTIAL.
02:15:31PM LOOKING AT PAYING FOR THEIR TOOLS.
02:15:32PM SOMETHING THAT COULD GO TO THE ACTUAL PARTICIPANT IN THE
02:15:37PM REGISTERED APPRENTICE PROGRAM.
02:15:39PM WE ARE TRYING IT WITH MECHANICS AND GET OUT ANY KINKS AND
02:15:41PM SCALE IT WITH OTHER TRADES AS WELL.
02:15:43PM BUT THE INTENT, AGAIN, IS REALLY TO INCENT INDIVIDUALS TO
02:15:51PM GET IN THE PRACTICE OF THE SKILLED TRADES.
02:15:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:15:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, COUNCIL.
02:15:57PM CHECKING IN WITH HAGAR.
02:16:02PM POOR THING.
02:16:02PM SHE WILL BE LOOKING FOR MONEY UNDER COUCHES.
02:16:07PM BUT WE TALKED OF $100,000.
02:16:09PM >> DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
02:16:11PM 1,000 TO 1500 PER APPRENTICE.
02:16:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS AWESOME.
02:16:17PM I WILL SUGGEST, COUNCIL.
02:16:18PM I MAKE A MOTION AS FOLLOWS.
02:16:20PM I WILL WORK WITH HAGAR ON THIS.
02:16:24PM MOTION FOR -- IT WILL BE A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT ON SEPTEMBER
02:16:27PM 18.
02:16:27PM IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
02:16:29PM SEPTEMBER 18 FOR A -- STAFF TO PROVIDE A MEMO ON A FORMER --
02:16:38PM UP TO $100,000 APPRENTICESHIP INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY OF
02:16:43PM TAMPA AND WHAT THAT PROGRAM WILL FORMALLY ENTAIL.
02:16:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:16:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
02:16:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:16:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT AS GREAT PROGRAM.
02:16:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:16:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:16:57PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:16:58PM OPPOSED.
02:16:59PM THE AYES HAVE IT.
02:17:00PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:17:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:17:02PM OKAY.
02:17:03PM IS MR. SHELBY BACK?
02:17:06PM WE NEED HIM FOR THE NEXT DISCUSSIONS.
02:17:07PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:17:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. VASKE, ARE YOU WORKING ON WHAT IS COMING
02:17:19PM BACK US TO OR SOMEONE ELSE.
02:17:20PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY.
02:17:24PM I CAN'T BE TWO PLACE AT ONCE BUT STAFF IS WORKING ON THE
02:17:28PM AMENDMENT AND HE WILL BE BACK.
02:17:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE TWO ITEMS LEFT.
02:17:31PM NOT JUST TO --
02:17:32PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: I KNOW.
02:17:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE WILL BE SOME DISCUSSION.
02:17:37PM OH, HERE YOU ARE.
02:17:39PM YES, WE WERE.
02:17:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED TO HEAR ITEM 58 FIRST.
02:17:48PM YOU WANT TO DO THEM TOGETHER -- WE WILL DO 58 AND 57 TOGETHER.
02:17:55PM MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE KICK THIS OFF.
02:17:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SURE.
02:17:58PM COUNCIL, I AM PASSING AROUND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THIS HAS
02:18:03PM BEEN SENT TO YOU PREVIOUSLY, AND IT IS ALSO IN THE BACK-UP
02:18:06PM MATERIAL.
02:18:06PM THIS THE RESOLUTION THAT ULTIMATELY THE STEERING DEVICE FOR
02:18:13PM THE 2017 CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, WHICH WAS THE FIRST OF
02:18:18PM ITS KIND IN THE CITY SINCE 1974.
02:18:21PM A COUPLE THINGS THAT THAT COMMITTEE DID WAS RECOMMEND
02:18:26PM PUTTING PERIODIC REVIEW INTO THE CHART THAT CAME BACK TO
02:18:31PM COUNCIL.
02:18:31PM COUNCIL PUT IT IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE.
02:18:33PM PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.
02:18:34PM AND THE VOTERS APPROVED IT.
02:18:36PM NOW OF THE CHARTER SECTION THAT THEY GET IN 2025, AND EVERY
02:18:41PM SEVEN YEARS THEREAFTER.
02:18:44PM YOU ESTABLISH A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND THEN YOU DO
02:18:59PM WHAT IT TAKES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT COMMENCE, AND HAVE IT COME
02:19:06PM BACK -- I BELIEVE IT IS THE COUNCIL'S INTENTION TO HAVE THE
02:19:09PM CHARTER QUESTIONS ON THE MARCH 2027 BALLOT.
02:19:13PM WORKING BACKWARDS FROM THAT, TIM HEBERLINE HAS BEEN INFORMED
02:19:21PM BY THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION THAT FOR THE STATE TO GET THINGS
02:19:25PM THROUGH THE BALLOT ORDINANCES PASSED AND ADOPTED TO THE
02:19:32PM SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION HAS TO BE BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF
02:19:35PM QUALIFYING, THE FIRST DAY OF JANUARY IN 2027.
02:19:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, SINCE THIS IS INTERNAL COUNCIL
02:19:42PM STUFF AND STAFF THAT WE ALREADY TAKEN THIS TIME, DO YOU MIND
02:19:45PM IF I PAUSE THIS DISCUSSION AND GO BACK TO ITEM 20.
02:19:52PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT, FOR ITEM 20.
02:19:57PM CAN I HAVE THE WOLF?
02:20:00PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE STRIKING THROUGH.
02:20:03PM I WILL ASK CITY COUNCIL TO SUBSTITUTE THE AGREEMENT IN THE
02:20:07PM SCOPE WITH THIS REVISED AGREEMENT.
02:20:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUBSTITUTE
02:20:18PM SCOPE FOR ITEM 20.
02:20:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:20:25PM A SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:20:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAS BEEN FILED WITH THE CLERK.
02:20:31PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: I AM GETTING READY TO DO THAT.
02:20:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
02:20:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.
02:20:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.
02:20:44PM ADOPTING THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION THAT IN TWO SHAKES WILL
02:20:47PM BE IN YOUR HANDS.
02:20:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. VASKE.
02:20:52PM YOU SENT -- THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMPLETE FINAL.
02:20:54PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUST SEPARATE THE AGREEMENT.
02:20:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE CLERK.
02:21:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE A WHOLE BRAND-NEW PACKET.
02:21:03PM SUBSTITUTE SCOPE.
02:21:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO ADOPT
02:21:07PM THE SUBSTITUTE SCOPE OF WORK IN ITEM 20, AND THERE IS SECOND FROM
02:21:12PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:21:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:21:13PM OPPOSED.
02:21:14PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:21:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION.
02:21:17PM CAN WE -- ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE WORK ORDER FOR
02:21:22PM LOWRY PARK OR JUST AN INTERNAL?
02:21:25PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK: RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
02:21:28PM AS FAR AS A SEPARATE WORK ORDER TO DEAL WITH LOWRY PARK,
02:21:34PM THAT WILL BE SOMETHING SEPARATE.
02:21:35PM WORK INCLUDED HERE IS ONLY IF ANY OF THAT STUFF WOULD FIT ON
02:21:38PM THE SAME PROPERTY.
02:21:39PM AND CAN I MAKE ONE CLARIFYING STATEMENT?
02:21:42PM BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS LOOKING TO EDUCATE.
02:21:44PM AS FAR AS THE WORK ORDER QUESTIONS EARLIER AND IF THAT WOULD
02:21:49PM COME BEFORE YOU, THE 200,000 THRESHOLD, ANYTHING UNDER 200,000
02:21:52PM AT DEPARTMENT LEVEL WITH THE EXCEPTION WE WORK LAST YEAR
02:21:55PM ON AND MADE A REVISION THAT CUMULATIVELY OVER $200,000
02:21:59PM WOULD COME BEFORE YOU.
02:22:04PM THE THRESHOLD IS THERE TO BE MADE.
02:22:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS A COURTESY, BECAUSE THIS IS ON OUR RADAR,
02:22:12PM NICE TO KNOW WHEN THAT STARTS SO WE CAN KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA
02:22:15PM AND SEE ANY LAND AND THINK OF ANYTHING, WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
02:22:17PM LOOKING FOR.
02:22:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
02:22:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE THING ABOUT THIS.
02:22:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU CONCLUDE, WHAT WOULD BE IN ORDER
02:22:26PM WOULD BE A MOTION TO MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
02:22:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:22:30PM I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTION RESOLUTION.
02:22:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK
02:22:36PM FIRST.
02:22:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
02:22:40PM SAID.
02:22:40PM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. MUTTERBACK, WHO YOU HAVE ONLY BEEN
02:22:46PM HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT YOU CHANGED THE PROCESS
02:22:49PM DRAMATICALLY, AND THE REASON WE ARE SEEING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU
02:22:51PM PUT IN THE NEW RULES THAT YOU PUT IN PLACE.
02:22:53PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
02:22:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:22:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO STATE SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN
02:23:00PM CARLSON SAID OF MR. MUTTERBACK.
02:23:01PM YOU WERE HERE FOR FRIDAY, YOU ARE LIKE NO MORE FIRE STUFF,
02:23:04PM MAN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE THICK OF IT.
02:23:06PM AND STUFF THAT YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH.
02:23:08PM AND YOU GO THE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS JUST KNOW THAT I SEE
02:23:16PM THAT.
02:23:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, GUYS.
02:23:17PM I WOULD HAVE LOST THE MONEY BUT YOU WOULD HAVE IT BACK
02:23:22PM QUICK.
02:23:22PM THANK YOU FOR DOING SUCH QUICK WORK.
02:23:24PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO ADOPT A SUBSTITUTE
02:23:27PM RESOLUTION.
02:23:28PM IS THERE A SECOND?
02:23:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:23:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:23:31PM OPPOSED.
02:23:32PM AYES HAVE IT.
02:23:34PM OKAY, MR. SHELBY, PICK BACK UP ON 57 AND 58.
02:23:38PM SORRY FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
02:23:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE WORKING BACKWARDS.
02:23:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEGIN WITH THE END IN MIND AND WORK
02:23:48PM BACKWARDS.
02:23:49PM EVERY EIGHT YEARS AFTER 2025.
02:23:54PM EVERY EIGHT YEARS SHOULD A CHART REVIEW COMMISSION PER THE
02:24:00PM CHARTER.
02:24:00PM I WAS ABOUT TO TELL COUNCIL THAT MR. HEBERLINE, THE AIDE
02:24:08PM TO THE CHAIR, RECEIVED WORDS FROM THESUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS
02:24:11PM THAT WHAT I SEE HERE -- EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SIGNED, SEALED
02:24:23PM AND DELIVERED TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION BY JANUARY 11.
02:24:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TRANSLATED OR NOT TRANSLATED.
02:24:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SAID WITH SPANISH TRANSLATIONS.
02:24:34PM IF YOU GET IT TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS EARLY, THEY HAVE
02:24:38PM DONE THE SPANISH TRANSLATION THROUGH HAIR OFFICE.
02:24:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JANUARY OF '27.
02:24:45PM SO BASICALLY, WHAT I AM SUGGESTING COUNCIL IS, YOU HAVE AN
02:24:56PM OPTION AND I GAVE IT TO YOU IN WHAT I SENT YOU.
02:24:59PM THE ORDINANCE HAS THE LANGUAGE BASICALLY FROM THE CHARTER
02:25:03PM ITSELF.
02:25:03PM AND I PLUG IT IN WHERE IT WOULD BE.
02:25:05PM YOU HAVE AN OPTION.
02:25:06PM YOU CAN EITHER MIMIC WHAT IS IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT I
02:25:17PM PROVIDED YOU AS A GUIDE.
02:25:20PM I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT IT CAN'T BE REVISED OR SUBSTITUTED.
02:25:24PM BUT THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT THIS PREVIOUS CITY
02:25:27PM COUNCIL LOOKED AT AND DELIVERED TO THE CHARTER REVIEW
02:25:30PM COMMISSION.
02:25:30PM THIS TIME AROUND, IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED IN THE
02:25:34PM SENSE THAT YOU HAVE THE FUNDING PROVIDED FOR FULL
02:26:00PM TRANSPARENCY IN THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.
02:26:03PM SO YOUR OPTION IS TO WORKSHOP THIS TODAY OR ANOTHER DAY IN
02:26:11PM THE SPECIAL CALL AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT LANGUAGE MORE
02:26:13PM THAN WHAT IS ALREADY IN HERE FOR THE CHARTER -- EXCUSE ME, IN
02:26:17PM THE ORDINANCE OR WHAT YOU DO IS MERELY BRING THIS TO LIFE
02:26:23PM THROUGH YOUR ORDINANCE AND SAY ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION WILL
02:26:27PM BE PROVIDED VIA RESOLUTION.
02:26:29PM SO THAT WILL BUY YOU TIME TO DO THAT.
02:26:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY KNOWS I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
02:26:35PM THESE DISCUSSIONS BEHIND THE SCENES.
02:26:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
02:26:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY GUT TELLS ME JUST TO FRAME THE ISSUE,
02:26:40PM WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON CHARTER REVIEW
02:26:46PM ON COUNCIL.
02:26:47PM CHARLIE, DID YOU EVER SERVE ON CHARTER REVIEW.
02:26:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE.
02:26:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: OTHER THREE APPOINTED US AND WE HAD TO VOTE
02:26:58PM ON THE RESULTS YOU HAVE IT.
02:26:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE SITTING IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION.
02:27:01PM BECAUSE YOU SAW THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY OF THE LAST.
02:27:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REMEMBER
02:27:09PM VIEW COMMISSION ARE ON THE EIGHTH FLOOR IN THE CITY
02:27:11PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
02:27:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A LOT OF ENERGY AROUND THE GOVERNANCE.
02:27:16PM MY GUT TELLS ME THAT WE NEED DO SOME HOMEWORK AND OUR
02:27:22PM SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND THOSE WHO HAVE AN OPINION ON
02:27:25PM THIS.
02:27:25PM YOU KNOW I THREW OUT PROPOSAL FOR CHARTER CHANGES NOT TOO
02:27:29PM LONG AGO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WRAPPED INTO THIS.
02:27:31PM AND I THINK THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIMILAR TYPES OF
02:27:35PM IDEAS.
02:27:35PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE OF THESE CHANGES WILL ULTIMATELY
02:27:38PM BE, BUT I THINK Y'ALL SHOULD COME BACK TO US WITH SOME
02:27:42PM PROPOSALS OF HOW THIS ORDINANCE WILL LOOK LIKE.
02:27:43PM WHAT YOU THINK THIS SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
02:27:46PM WHERE YOU SEE SOME GAPS, WHERE YOU SEE SOME OF THIS.
02:27:51PM THIS WILL BE A RESOLUTION, NOT AN ORDINANCE.
02:27:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE.
02:27:56PM I DIDN'T PRINT OUT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, AND THAT IS IN YOUR
02:28:01PM BACK-UP.
02:28:01PM LANGUAGE THAT AND IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSE WAS TAKEN IN SECTION
02:28:06PM 10-10 OF THE CHARTER.
02:28:07PM THAT RELEVANT LANGUAGE IS PUT IN THE SECTIONS.
02:28:13PM THE ONLY LANGUAGE THAT REALLY TRACKS IS LANGUAGE THAT IS
02:28:16PM REQUIRED BY THE CHARTER.
02:28:17PM I ALSO ADDED LANGUAGE -- I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
02:28:20PM THE LAST SESSION, COUNCILWOMAN, ABOUT THE THIRD -- THE THIRD
02:28:25PM SECTION UP BEFORE "EFFECTIVE DATE."
02:28:28PM BEFORE "CONFLICTS."
02:28:30PM WHAT IS THE SECOND -- THE THIRD FROM THE LAST SECTION
02:28:37PM 18 ADDITIONAL FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MUST IS BE BY
02:28:42PM RESOLUTION.
02:28:42PM WHAT IT IS SAYING WE CAN PASS AN ORDINANCE TODAY TO CREATE
02:28:46PM --
02:28:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE NEXT DATE.
02:28:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ON THE 28th.
02:28:50PM CREATE AN ORDINANCE AND SET A TIME TO CREATE RESOLUTIONS
02:28:55PM WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE MORE DIRECTION.
02:28:58PM AND SO GIVE US SOME TIME, BUT THIS AT LEAST GETS THE PROCESS
02:29:03PM STARTED.
02:29:03PM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
02:29:04PM DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CLEARLY?
02:29:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
02:29:08PM THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS WORKING BACKWARDS I LOOK AT IT,
02:29:18PM YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CHART OF
02:29:23PM HOW YOU MAKE YOUR APPOINTMENTS.
02:29:26PM A COUNCIL MEMBER MADE THEIR APPOINTMENTS AND PLACED IN THE
02:29:30PM RESOLUTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
02:29:31PM BUT THE QUESTION IS, DOES CITY COUNCIL WISH TO HAVE THE
02:29:35PM OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR BOARD SEE THE APPLICATION OF THAT
02:29:39PM PERSON SO THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING ON.
02:29:42PM OR DO IT AS A GROUP.
02:29:43PM DO IT DIFFERENTLY OR THE SAME.
02:29:45PM YOU ARE NOT BOUND BY WHAT THE PREVIOUS CHARTER REVIEW
02:29:48PM COMMISSION DID AND HOW IT DID IT.
02:29:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:29:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE -- THE PROCESS YOU DESCRIBE IS
02:29:56PM FINE.
02:29:56PM WE EACH NOMINATE SOMEBODY AND THEN WE VOTE ON IT BEEN.
02:30:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE HAVE TO CREATE -- WE NEED TO
02:30:04PM CREATE THE PROCESS TO DO THAT.
02:30:06PM SO -- BUT THAT HAS TO BE IN THE FORM -- A FORMAL RESOLUTION.
02:30:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD BE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
02:30:13PM OTHER THING I THINK TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE FROM.
02:30:16PM YOU COULD HAVE THE PEOPLE ON BOARD BUT DON'T HAVE A LEGAL
02:30:20PM COUNSEL OR A FACILITATOR UNLESS YOU START THAT PROCESS.
02:30:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PRIVY TO THIS CONVERSATION, EARMARK OF
02:30:30PM $126,000 IN THE 2026 BUDGET.
02:30:32PM I AM STILL FEELING THAT -- HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE WE SPENT ON
02:30:35PM THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION FACILITATOR?
02:30:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT IS, $60,000?
02:30:45PM >>HAGAR KOPESK: HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
02:30:49PM RIGHT AROUND $75,000.
02:30:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ONLY HAVE $150,000 FOR AN ATTORNEY AND
02:30:56PM A FACILITATOR AND DEPENDS ON HOW BIG THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF
02:31:01PM THIS CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS IS GOING TO BE.
02:31:03PM IS THAT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO FUND ANY OTHER
02:31:13PM EXPENSES WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT?
02:31:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT.
02:31:17PM IN 2017, IT WAS TO BE PROVIDED BY THE CLERK.
02:31:20PM BUT NO DISCUSSION OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE WHAT THAT WILL
02:31:24PM ENTAIL.
02:31:24PM CERTAINLY, THE CLERK HAS TO BE BROUGHT IN THE PROCESS EARLY
02:31:27PM ON.
02:31:28PM THE OTHER THING I SHOULD TELL YOU, IF YOUR GOAL IS TO -- LET'S
02:31:31PM SAY BY THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER -- HAVE THAT BOARD BE COMPLETE
02:31:38PM SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY REVIEW WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU
02:31:42PM HAVE TO PUT THEM IN THE FORM OF ORDINANCES WHICH REQUIRES
02:31:50PM TWO READINGS AND THE TIME THERE.
02:31:52PM YOU DON'T WANT TO BE LATE GETTING THIS TO THE SUPERVISOR OF
02:31:56PM ELECTIONS.
02:31:58PM YOUR SCOPE IS LIMITED TO HOW OFTEN YOU WILL GIVE THE
02:32:01PM COMMITTEE TO FUNCTION.
02:32:02PM YOU HAVEN'T DECIDED MONTHLY, BIWEEKLY OR WEEKLY.
02:32:06PM AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SCOPE IS, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO
02:32:10PM GET THE TIME TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
02:32:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST KIND OF LIKE -- YOU AND I HAD THESE
02:32:15PM KIND OF DISCUSSIONS AND YOU BACK IT UP, IT APPEARS THAT
02:32:18PM COUNCIL WAS ABLE TO APPOINT THE REPRESENTATIVES BY THIS
02:32:22PM NOVEMBER.
02:32:22PM AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO START THEIR WORK ROLLING INTO THE
02:32:25PM FIRST OF -- YOU KNOW, THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, THAT WOULD GIVE
02:32:29PM THEM, SAY, TEN-PLUS MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE
02:32:32PM WORK.
02:32:32PM I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE SCOPE AND THE
02:32:35PM SCALE OF THIS PROCESS WILL BE.
02:32:37PM HOW MUCH OF THE CHARTER WILL WE REOPEN.
02:32:39PM WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?
02:32:41PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, YOUR LIGHT WAS ON.
02:32:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: US THREE, VIERA, MIRANDA AND MYSELF.
02:32:51PM BECAUSE THE CHARTER HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKED AT SINCE '75, I
02:32:55PM THINK.
02:32:55PM I THINK THE WAY IT WAS SET UP WORKED.
02:32:58PM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIME PERIOD EXACTLY, BUT THEY HAD
02:33:02PM QUITE A FEW MEETINGS.
02:33:02PM IT WAS A VERY, VERY GOOD BOARD, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF GOOD -- I
02:33:07PM MEAN, YOU SAW WHO CAME OUT YOU HAVE THERE.
02:33:08PM A LOT OF ELECTED CAME OUT OF THERE OR CITY ATTORNEYS.
02:33:11PM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:33:15PM I LIKE HOW WE APPOINTED OUR ONE PERSON.
02:33:17PM I APPOINTED COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:33:20PM HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT ASKED ME, AND I APPOINTED HIM THE
02:33:24PM NEXT DAY.
02:33:24PM BUT WE WILL SEE -- LOOK, SEE, MAKING MAGIC HAPPEN.
02:33:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WON BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
02:33:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WERE MY APPOINTEE.
02:33:41PM THERE WAS NO ISSUES.
02:33:42PM WE MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK AT THE AUGUST 28
02:33:48PM MEETING FOR THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE CREATION THIS
02:33:53PM COMMISSION, NUMBER ONE.
02:33:54PM AND I GUESS, BY NOVEMBER, AS WAS MENTIONED OR SOONER, EACH
02:34:00PM APPOINT OUR PERSON GOING BY THE SAME SET-UP AS IT DID BEFORE
02:34:05PM AND GIVE THE COMMISSION TEN MONTHS WHATEVER IT IS TO WORK
02:34:08PM AND MAKE IT TO THE DEADLINE OF JANUARY OF '27.
02:34:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:34:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:34:16PM MY VIEW OF THIS, I GO BACK WITH THE LAST ELECTION VOTE ON
02:34:21PM CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
02:34:23PM A LOT PROPOSED.
02:34:24PM I VOTED FOR PROBABLY 10% OF THEM.
02:34:26PM THE ONES I VOTED FOR, I STUCK WITH, AND WHEN THE MAYOR
02:34:30PM VETOED THEM.
02:34:31PM I CHOSE TO OVERRIDE THE VETO ON FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM.
02:34:35PM FOLKS THAT SAY DON'T TOUCH THE CHARTER, IT IS THE
02:34:39PM CONSTITUTION.
02:34:39PM IT IS NOT THE 66 BOOKS OF THE BIBLE, WHATEVER.
02:34:42PM IT IS NOT.
02:34:43PM IT IS JUST NOT.
02:34:44PM THAT IS JUST SILLY.
02:34:46PM ON THE OTHER HAND, I DON'T SUPPORT RADICAL OR EXTREME CHANGES
02:34:51PM OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
02:34:52PM IF YOU HAVE THINGS ARE MORE MODERATE CHANGES ON LIKE WE DID.
02:34:56PM SUBJECT IN THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ATTEMPTS.
02:35:04PM THINGS I CAN SUPPORT.
02:35:05PM BUT RADICAL CHANGES OF THE CHARTER, I DON'T SUPPORT.
02:35:08PM POTENTIAL MODERATE TO CONSERVATIVE, OF COURSE, I AM FINE
02:35:12PM WITH THAT.
02:35:12PM I HAVE A QUESTION IN TERMS OF LAST TIME COUNCIL-WIDE
02:35:19PM APPOINTEES.
02:35:20PM >> ALTERNATES.
02:35:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS BY A 4-3 VOTE.
02:35:32PM IT JUST SEVEN?
02:35:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ALTERNATES.
02:35:36PM THE QUESTION.
02:35:43PM BY THE WAY, THE 28th WILL BE A VERY FULL DAY.
02:35:45PM TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM ON THE 28.
02:35:49PM ANY LONG DISCUSSION, REMEMBER WE HAVE A BIG MEETING THAT NIGHT.
02:35:52PM WE COULD SET -- IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
02:35:56PM PUT THIS ON FOR THE 28th TO COME BACK WITH THE ORDINANCE TO
02:36:01PM ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE.
02:36:02PM AND AUTHORIZE THE USE OF RESOLUTION TO CONTINUE THE WORK OF
02:36:08PM THE COUNCIL RATHER THAN HAVING TO DO IT ORDINANCE.
02:36:14PM OKAY.
02:36:14PM THE MEANTIME, I CAN WORK WITH THE CHAIR AND FRANKLY, THIS
02:36:19PM MEANS WE WILL ENCOMPASS THE WORK OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND
02:36:22PM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AS CERTAINLY THEIR OWN QUESTIONS AS TO
02:36:26PM WHETHER THERE ARE THINGS THEY MAY WANT TO RECOMMEND TO THE
02:36:28PM CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE TO THE CHARTER IN TERMS OF CLEANING UP
02:36:37PM THE CHARTER.
02:36:38PM THEY ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS OF CLEANING IT UP TO THE
02:36:43PM LIKE.
02:36:43PM AND THE ADMINISTRATION, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND
02:36:46PM THE 28th, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF HOW
02:36:50PM COUNCIL WILL ULTIMATELY SIGN AN AGREEMENT FOR LEGAL COUNCIL
02:36:53PM AND SIGN AN AGREEMENT FOR FACILITATOR.
02:36:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:36:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:37:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:37:02PM SORRY.
02:37:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL OF US HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS BEFORE.
02:37:06PM BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES COUNCIL
02:37:10PM HAVE RECOMMENDED CHARTER CHANGES, BECAUSE THAT WAS SPECIFIC
02:37:13PM LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED.
02:37:14PM ALL WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING -- YOU ANNIVERSARY THIS LIST
02:37:17PM FROM LAST TIME, THERE ARE SOME GUIDELINES.
02:37:21PM AND I SUGGEST WHATEVER WE PUT IN THERE AND ANYTHING ELSE
02:37:23PM THAT THEY WANT TO RECOMMEND.
02:37:24PM WHAT HAD TO HAPPEN WAS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD TO HAVE A
02:37:28PM CONSENSUS TO RECOMMEND BACK TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL HAD TO
02:37:33PM DISCUSS ON IT AND VOTE ON IT.
02:37:35PM COUNCIL HAS THE YOU WILL THE MAP APPROVAL TO PUT IT ON THE
02:37:37PM CHARTER, THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T.
02:37:39PM MY POINT IS WE ARE NO NOT RECOMMENDING LANGUAGE TO THEM.
02:37:42PM WE MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM LIKE THE BOARD DID LAST
02:37:46PM TIME.
02:37:46PM YOU SEE IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE LIST, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
02:37:49PM AREN'T REALLY SOLVED STILL.
02:37:51PM THE OTHER THING THAT THE COMMITTEE WILL BE A FILTER.
02:37:54PM THEY CAN TAKE THE TIME THAT WE CAN'T TO GO THROUGH NEW
02:37:57PM DETAIL TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES AND DEBATE THEM AND
02:38:01PM COME BACK TO US WITH AT THAT RECOMMENDATION.
02:38:03PM WE CAN STILL DEBATE THEM AND DISCUSS.
02:38:05PM THEM DON'T PUT ANYTHING RIGHT IN THE CHART.
02:38:08PM OTHER THING IN THE MOTION IS TO SET RULES FOR HOW THEY
02:38:11PM WOULD OPERATE.
02:38:12PM LAST TIME I FELT LIKE THE CONSULTANT HAD TOO MUCH POWER.
02:38:25PM AND STARTED COMING IN GIVING ADVICE THAT WAS NOT IN THE
02:38:29PM MOTION AND WAS NOT IN THE SET-UP OF IT.
02:38:31PM BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CONSULTANT SAID IS INSTEAD OF
02:38:36PM HAVING A CHAIR, THE CONSULTANT WILL JUST LEAD IT.
02:38:39PM I THOUGHT WE MISSED OUT BY HAVING CHAIR.
02:38:43PM LYNN STEPPED UP AFTERWARDS AND WAS KIND OF THE SPOKESPERSON
02:38:48PM FOR THE GROUP, BUT THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL CHAIR.
02:38:51PM HARD TO RUN A DISCUSSION WOULDN'T SOMEBODY BEING CHAIR.
02:38:53PM THE OTHER THING THE CONSULTANT AT BEGINNING -- IN THE FIRST
02:38:59PM MEETING RECOMMENDED SUPERMAJORITY VOTE BECAUSE IT IS COMING
02:39:03PM TO COUNCIL.
02:39:03PM SUPERMAJORITY MEANT THE MAYOR HAD VETO POWER.
02:39:08PM ANYTHING THAT THE SITTING MAYOR DIDN'T LIKE WOULDN'T GO
02:39:11PM THROUGH.
02:39:12PM DIDN'T MEAN THAT THE GROUP DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT BUT GAVE TOO
02:39:15PM MUCH POWER TO ONE PERSON.
02:39:17PM I THINK A MAJORITY WILL BE FINE.
02:39:19PM HAVING CHAIR WILL BE A GOOD IDEA.
02:39:21PM I WANT -- THE OTHER THING IS, WE NEED A LIST.
02:39:24PM REALLY A LIST OF QUESTIONS.
02:39:26PM OTHER THING TO THE POINT OF, DON'T TOUCH THE CHARTER.
02:39:29PM THAT CAME UP BY THIS ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY DIDN'T LIKE
02:39:42PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
02:39:44PM THREE OUT OF FOUR PASSED.
02:39:46PM AND THE LAST TIME THEY WANTED A CHARTER CHANGE.
02:39:50PM AND DIDN'T BRING A LINE OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT CHARTER CHANGE
02:39:53PM WAS A BAD IDEA LIKE THE FIRST BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE CHARTER
02:39:57PM CHANGE, WHICH MEANS DISINGENUOUS ALL THE TIME.
02:40:00PM THE CHARTER HAS TO BE UPDATED.
02:40:02PM EVEN THE U.S. CONSTITUTION HAS THE ABILITY TO BE MODIFIED
02:40:06PM TIME AFTER TIME.
02:40:08PM AND THIS CHARTER WASN'T WRITTEN HOW IT WAS PURCHASE.
02:40:12PM WE VOTED TO HAVE IT GENDER NEUTRAL BECAUSE SAID "HE"
02:40:16PM EVERYWHERE.
02:40:17PM AND SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OF DEPARTMENTS THAT DIDN'T EXIST
02:40:21PM ANYMORE.
02:40:22PM ANYWAY, SHOP SUGGESTIONS.
02:40:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:40:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
02:40:26PM I THINK A CHAIR WOULD BE VERY USEFUL, AND COUNCIL MEMBER
02:40:38PM CARLSON RIGHT, SUPERMAJORITY CUT THE CONVERSATION.
02:40:42PM IT WAS CONSTANTLY A 5-4 -- NO SUPERMAJORITY WOULD HAVE BEEN
02:40:47PM SEVEN INSTEAD OF SIX.
02:40:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: SIX WOULD HAVE TO BE.
02:40:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE THEY ARE A RECOMMENDING BODY.
02:40:56PM WE ARE THE ONES THAT DECIDE WHAT ACTUALLY GOES FORWARD.
02:40:59PM AND SO WE NEED A SUPERMAJORITY TO ACTUALLY GET ANYTHING
02:41:03PM THROUGH.
02:41:03PM BECAUSE IF THE MAYOR WERE TO VETO, WE WOULD NEED THAT.
02:41:08PM I REALLY THINK BECAUSE THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, HEAVY LIFT WAS
02:41:17PM DONE BY THE PREVIOUS CHARTER AND WE HAD 18 AMENDMENTS.
02:41:20PM SIM SIMPLE.
02:41:24PM TAKE THE DEPARTMENTS.
02:41:25PM MAKING IT GENDER NEUTRAL.
02:41:27PM WE HAD SOMETHING -- PRINT IN THE NEWSPAPER AND DIDN'T
02:41:31PM MENTION THE INTERNET WHERE NOW WE ARE PUTTING STUFF ON THE
02:41:34PM INTERNET.
02:41:34PM JUST TRYING TO NEUTRALIZE A LOT OF THAT LANGUAGE FROM AGE.
02:41:37PM I THINK WE DID THE VERY HEAVY LIFT.
02:41:40PM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE ARE ABLE -- THAT THIS COMMISSION
02:41:44PM IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF LOOK AT OTHER THINGS OTHER
02:41:46PM THAN THAT.
02:41:47PM WE HAD TO DEVOTE SO MUCH TIME TO THOSE SMALL YET MIGHTY
02:41:52PM HEAVY LIFTS THAT THIS WOULD -- THIS WILL BE INTERESTING.
02:41:55PM SO I DO AGREE WITH BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.
02:41:58PM BUT GOING BACKWARD AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT REMEMBER NOT
02:42:11PM DON'T, ONLY DID WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT AND COUNCIL HAD TO
02:42:13PM APPROVE, THEN IT HAD TO GO THE CITY ATTORNEY WHERE THEY
02:42:17PM FIGURED OUT LANGUAGE AND THEN APPROVE THAT AGAIN.
02:42:19PM TEN MONTHS -- WE DON'T HAVE TEN MONTHS.
02:42:21PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TEN MONDAYS.
02:42:24PM WE NEED TO HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF US FOR FIRST CONSIDERATION
02:42:27PM PROBABLY NO LATER THAN OCTOBER 1.
02:42:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS TEN MONTHS.
02:42:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NINE MONTHS.
02:42:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU START FROM JANUARY -- IF WE APPOINT
02:42:39PM THE PEOPLE BY NOVEMBER --
02:42:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY BE COUNCIL'S DECISION TO DECIDE IT
02:42:45PM IS GOING TO BE -- THIS IS VERY BECAUSE YOU RAISED THE ISSUE
02:42:50PM OF THE CHAIR.
02:42:51PM MULTIPLE RESOLUTIONS THAT THIS COUNCIL PASSED AND THIS 588 IF
02:42:57PM YOU LOOK AT THE BACK OF THE STRIKE-THROUGHS OF WHAT COUNCIL
02:43:00PM AGREED UPON AND PASSED AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHARTER
02:43:03PM REVIEW COMMISSION AND COUNCIL ITSELF.
02:43:06PM SECTION 6 ON PAGE TWO OF THE EXHIBIT ACTUALLY STRUCK THE
02:43:11PM DECISION THAT COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY MADE TO SELECT A
02:43:14PM CHAIRPERSON.
02:43:14PM AND A VICE CHAIRPERSON.
02:43:21PM OTHER THING IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, I HAD THIS
02:43:25PM OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO ANDREA ZELMAN, THE STYE -- THE CITY
02:43:33PM ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS.
02:43:33PM IT TURNS OUT SYSTEMIC ISSUES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE
02:43:38PM CHARTER NOT WITH POLICY BUT HOUSEKEEPING.
02:43:41PM ALL THE SPECIAL ACTS OF WHAT PART B OF THE CHARTER IS, WHICH
02:43:45PM CREATES A LOT OF CONFUSION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REFERENCE TWO
02:43:48PM SEPARATE PARTS OF THE CHARTER.
02:43:49PM HEAVY LIFTING, YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
02:43:53PM DO THAT KIND OF HOUSEKEEPING, BECAUSE THEY OFFERED TO DO IT.
02:43:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STRUCTURAL CHANGES.
02:43:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE ASK FOR THEIR SUGGESTIONS ON
02:44:01PM STRUCTURAL CHANGES SO WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE SCOPE?
02:44:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ABSOLUTELY.
02:44:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I WOULD -- THAT IS A MOTION I WOULD LIKE
02:44:07PM TO MAKE TODAY AND THEN AFTER WE APPROVE THIS, I AM GOING
02:44:14PM TO DO IT RIGHT NOW BEFORE I FORGET.
02:44:16PM I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT -- SORRY, IT HAS
02:44:20PM BEEN A REALLY LONG WEEK.
02:44:21PM ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO SUBMIT THEIR SUGGESTIONS SCOPE
02:44:32PM OF REVIEW FOR THE CITY'S CHART BY FOCUSING ON STRUCTURAL
02:44:40PM CHANGES BY -- GIVE ME A DATE, Y'ALL.
02:44:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OCTOBER 9.
02:44:46PM YOU WANT SOONER --
02:44:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OCTOBER 2 --
02:44:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OF THIS YEAR?
02:44:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE NEED TO GET THIS STARTED.
02:44:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COMMITTEE WON'T BE PUT TOGETHER UNTIL
02:44:58PM NOVEMBER AND IT MUST BE JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.
02:45:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WE NEED TO PUT IT IN.
02:45:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPTEMBER 18 OR OCTOBER 9.
02:45:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OCTOBER 9 AS A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
02:45:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION TO FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:45:12PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:45:14PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:45:15PM OPPOSED.
02:45:17PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:45:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD LOVE -- I KEPT
02:45:23PM ALL MY BOOKS.
02:45:24PM I HAVE ALL OF MY GIANT BOOKS FROM THAT.
02:45:26PM IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET A STRIKE-THROUGH CHANGES
02:45:31PM THAT THE 2018 CHARTER COMMISSION DID TO THE -- TO
02:45:36PM THE ACTUAL CHARTER?
02:45:38PM I THINK THAT WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL.
02:45:39PM IF WE WERE ABLE TO SEE WHAT ACTUALLY WAS CHANGED.
02:45:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE DOCUMENT MUST LIVE IN THE ARCHIVES
02:45:47PM FOR SURE.
02:45:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT DOES.
02:45:48PM I AM JUST NOT SURE WHERE.
02:45:50PM I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF -- I AM ASSUMING THAT WILL
02:45:54PM BE THE CLERK'S DEPARTMENT, BUT I AM NOT POSITIVE, TO
02:45:59PM PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH A COPY OF A COPY OF THE
02:46:09PM STRIKE-THROUGH LANGUAGE OF THE CHARTER APPROVAL OF 2019 BY
02:46:13PM THAT SAME DATE -- AGAIN, AS STAFF REPORT.
02:46:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
02:46:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
02:46:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:46:23PM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:46:24PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:46:25PM OPPOSED.
02:46:26PM AYES HAVE IT.
02:46:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS -- WERE YOU
02:46:31PM GOING TO ASK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO GIVE A LIST.
02:46:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:46:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE TO CLEAR UP IN
02:46:39PM THE CHARTER BECAUSE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TECHNICALLY
02:46:42PM REPRESENTS BOTH OF US.
02:46:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL CLOSE THE LOOP AND MAKE A MOTION TO
02:46:46PM ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO COMMIT THEIR LIST OF --
02:46:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE CHARTER.
02:46:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: RECOMMENDED -- THEY ARE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS
02:47:05PM OF THE CHARTER BY THE SAME DATE WHICH IS OCTOBER 9, ALSO AS
02:47:09PM WRITTEN REPORT.
02:47:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:47:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:47:14PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:47:16PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:47:17PM OPPOSED.
02:47:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: REMEMBER THEY HAVE TO DEBATE IT, AND WE HAVE
02:47:21PM TO DEBATE.
02:47:22PM NOT CHANGING IT BUT RECOMMENDING A QUESTION.
02:47:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
02:47:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A DISCUSSION WHAT WILL BE GOING IN THE
02:47:30PM SCOPE THAT GETS PRESENTED FOR THE REVIEW -- NOT THE ACTUAL.
02:47:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON OCTOBER 9 WITH THE SCOPE.
02:47:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BY THAT POINT.
02:47:38PM IF I CAN FINISH -- CLOSE THE LOOP ON THIS.
02:47:40PM ON THE 28th, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, MADAM CLERK,
02:47:45PM TO COME BACK ON THE 28th OR WAS THAT DONE?
02:47:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVEN'T DONE IT YET.
02:47:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HERE IS THE THING.
02:47:51PM BY THE OCTOBER DATE, THAT ORDINANCE WILL ALREADY HAVE BEEN
02:47:55PM ADOPTED, AND THAT COMMITTEE WILL BE IN EXISTENCE, AND WE CAN
02:47:57PM MOVE FORWARD.
02:47:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I ALSO WANT TO -- WHILE I AM ON THE SAME
02:48:03PM TANGENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO -- DO WE WANT TO
02:48:07PM DO THIS AT A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THESE OR WORK THESE -- TALK
02:48:12PM ABOUT IT DURING REGULAR SESSION.
02:48:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: REGULAR SESSION.
02:48:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM JUST REMINDING COUNCIL THIS IS THE
02:48:19PM TIME OF DAY WILL GET TO IT.
02:48:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAKE A MOTION ON OCTOBER 23 THAT WE DISCUSS
02:48:25PM THIS, BECAUSE IT WILL BE RIGHT AFTER WE GET THAT.
02:48:28PM WE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WILL BE ABLE TO RESEARCH
02:48:31PM IT.
02:48:31PM IF YOU GIVE IT US TO FOR TOO LONG, WE WILL FORGET ABOUT IT.
02:48:35PM SO WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION ON THE 23rd, THAT WILL BE THE
02:48:39PM FIFTH STAFF REPORT AND ADD NO MORE STAFF REPORTS.
02:48:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:48:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SIX IN SOMEONE ELSE ADDED?
02:48:48PM OH, THAT WAS A WRITTEN.
02:48:49PM OKAY.
02:49:00PM BUT THAT COULD BE PRETTY QUICK.
02:49:02PM THAT WILL BE THE SIXTH AND FINAL STAFF REPORT OF THE DAY.
02:49:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:49:09PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:49:11PM OKAY MR. SHELBY.
02:49:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK SOONER.
02:49:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
02:49:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BECAUSE WE HAVE TO -- WE CAN NOT WAIT
02:49:22PM THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
02:49:24PM WE STILL HAVE TO COME BACK -- MAYBE COME BACK ON THAT, BUT
02:49:27PM WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK -- AND WORK WITH THE CHAIR TO DO
02:49:30PM IT.
02:49:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM SAYING.
02:49:32PM COME BACK TO TALK OF THIS SPECIFIC THING WHICH IS THE SCOPE
02:49:36PM OF REVIEW.
02:49:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO WE CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING
02:49:42PM THE MEMBERS AND ALSO THE FACILITATOR AND THE LEGAL.
02:49:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SPECIFY MY MOTION ON OCTOBER 23, THEIR
02:49:50PM CITY COUNCIL WILL DISCUSS THE SCOPE OF REVIEW INCLUDING
02:49:55PM EVERYBODY ELSE'S OPTION -- OR RECOMMENDATIONS.
02:49:58PM THAT IS WHEN WE WILL BRING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
02:50:00PM WE WILL LOOK AT EVERYONE'S RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE WILL HAVE
02:50:03PM A CONVERSATION JUST ABOUT THE SCOPE OF REVIEW.
02:50:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:50:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION OR MODIFICATION?
02:50:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:50:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: INSTEAD OF "SCOPE OF REVIEW," CALL IT
02:50:15PM "RECOMMENDED ISSUES TO DISCUSS."
02:50:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: RECOMMENDED ISSUES TO DISCUSS.
02:50:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:50:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DIRECTION FOR THE UPCOMING CHARTER --
02:50:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: RECOMMENDED -- SAY THAT AGAIN?
02:50:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY.
02:50:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO CREATE IS
02:50:33PM A RESOLUTION DEFINING --
02:50:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU SEE WHAT IS IN THE PRESENT
02:50:42PM RESOLUTION IN 2017, THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS.
02:50:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
02:50:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL SAY ON THE 23rd OF OCTOBER,
02:50:51PM COUNCIL WILL ADDRESS THE SCOPE OF THE -- THE SCOPE FOR THE
02:50:55PM RESOLUTION OR THE CREATION OF THE --
02:50:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
02:50:58PM IT IS THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE CHARTER REVIEW TO
02:51:05PM REVIEW.
02:51:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MAIN TOPICS.
02:51:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU HAD A BETTER -- INSTEAD OF SCOPE --
02:51:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: RECOMMENDED ISSUES TO DISCUSS.
02:51:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ON OCTOBER 23, WE WILL DISCUSS THE
02:51:19PM RECOMMENDED ISSUES USING INPUT FROM ALL OF THE AREAS WE
02:51:24PM HAVE.
02:51:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK ISSUE IS THE WORD.
02:51:27PM I THINK SCOPE IS THE APPROPRIATE WORD.
02:51:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: SCOPE IS REALLY NARROWLY DEFINED.
02:51:33PM WITH THE CALIBER OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HOPE TO PUT ON THE
02:51:38PM COMMITTEE.
02:51:38PM WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO DISCUSS IT.
02:51:40PM I WANT TO PUT ONE THING ON THE FLOOR.
02:51:42PM ONE THING THAT WASTED A LOT OF TIME BROUGHT AN EXAMPLE OF
02:51:47PM ANOTHER CHARTER AND MADE US GO LINE BY LINE.
02:51:50PM MAYBE IT WAS NECESSARY AT THAT TIME.
02:51:51PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO LINE BY LINE.
02:51:53PM THEY CAN START WITH THE ISSUES AND DISCUSS THEM AND MAYBE
02:51:56PM EVEN THE AGENDA THE FIRST FEW MEETINGS CAN DISCUSS OUR
02:51:59PM ISSUES AND THE LAST COUPLE, DISCUSS THEIR OWN.
02:52:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAME HORRIBLE FACILITATOR AT THE CRA
02:52:08PM MEETING?
02:52:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHE WAS GREAT.
02:52:11PM SHE WAS PHENOMENAL.
02:52:12PM BUT WE DESPERATELY -- IT WAS ANTIQUATED.
02:52:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE GOT BOGGED DOWN GOING LINE BY LINE.
02:52:18PM TAKING THE PRONOUNS OUT, WE HAD TO GO LINE BY LINE.
02:52:24PM NEXT TIME THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO LINE BY LINE.
02:52:27PM AND DISCUSS THE QUESTIONS.
02:52:28PM THEY LEAD IT AND HAVE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY DON'T HAVE
02:52:31PM TO WASTE TIME TO GO LINE BY LINE.
02:52:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND AUTHENTICITY
02:52:36PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:52:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, SUPERMAJORITY TO GET
02:52:40PM SOMETHING TO CITY COUNCIL.
02:52:40PM UPON FIRST IMPRESSION, A SIMPLE MAJORITY WILL DO WELL, UPON
02:52:45PM FIRST IMPRESSION, BUT IF THEY COME BACK WITH WHATEVER, SOME
02:52:49PM OBSCENE NUMBER OF CHARTER AMENDMENTS TO LOOK LIKE IT IS PART
02:52:52PM OF SOME POLITICAL AGENDA OR WHATEVER, IT WILL NOT BE WELL
02:52:55PM TAKEN.
02:52:55PM IN OTHER WORDS, I -- I AM FAVORABLE TO WHAT Y'ALL ARE
02:52:59PM TALKING ABOUT SO LONG -- I WILL GIVE YOU A DOUBLE AND
02:53:02PM STRETCH IT TO A TRIPLE.
02:53:03PM THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING.
02:53:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAJORITY IS 5-4.
02:53:08PM A SUPERMAJORITY.
02:53:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:53:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOING TO SUPPORT HER MOTION AND
02:53:18PM MAKE A MOTION AFTER THAT FOR MR. SHELBY TO COME BACK WITH
02:53:21PM AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
02:53:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, PLEASE RESTATE YOUR
02:53:33PM MOTION.
02:53:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I MOTION THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS A
02:53:36PM DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR --
02:53:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
02:53:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: -- GOALS AND OBJECTING OBJECTIVES/SCOPE FOR
02:53:48PM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO CONSIDER, INCLUDING ALL YOU
02:53:51PM HAVE THE INFORMATION WE ARE RECEIVING VIA STAFF REPORT
02:53:55PM AT OUR OCTOBER 23 MEETING IN ADDITION TO --
02:54:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:54:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: -- DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT SEPARATELY?
02:54:07PM TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS?
02:54:09PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
02:54:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:54:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I LIKE THAT.
02:54:12PM A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:54:14PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:54:15PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:54:16PM OPPOSED.
02:54:17PM AYES HAVE IT.
02:54:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: VERY QUICKLY TO LIMIT THE STAFF REPORTS -- NO
02:54:21PM MORE STAFF REPORTS FOR OCTOBER 23.
02:54:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:54:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:54:26PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:54:27PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:54:28PM OPPOSED.
02:54:29PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:54:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET HIM MAKE HIS MOTION FIRST.
02:54:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I ASK FOR --
02:54:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO SET IT FOR FIRST READING.
02:54:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:54:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
02:54:43PM I MAKE A MOTION FOR MR. SHELBY TO COME BACK FOR AN ORDINANCE
02:54:47PM OF FIRST READING AT THE AUGUST 28 REGULAR MEETING TO
02:54:52PM ESTABLISH THE CITY OF TAMPA CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
02:54:55PM >> SECOND.
02:54:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE WORD -- THE
02:55:01PM TERM "HEAVY LIFTING" WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AND I THINK THE
02:55:05PM COMMISSION FROM 2018, BEING THAT IT HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED
02:55:09PM SINCE THE '70s.
02:55:10PM A LOT OF THE HEAVY LIFT WILL BE DONE AND MORE OF A
02:55:14PM STREAMLINED PROCESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS FRESHER.
02:55:16PM BUT IF WE -- THIS IS FOR LATER DISCUSSION, GET OUR
02:55:22PM APPOINTMENTS IN BY NOVEMBER, I THINK THE COMMISSION BEGINS
02:55:25PM IN JANUARY RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS.
02:55:27PM AND THEY WILL GET -- THEY WILL HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
02:55:30PM WE WILL BE ON SCHEDULE AND WILL GIVE US TEN MONTHS.
02:55:33PM IF THERE ARE ISSUE, ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO BEFORE WE HAVE TO
02:55:37PM TAKE IT TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION AND QUALIFYING AND ON
02:55:41PM THE BALLOT.
02:55:41PM I THINK THE KINKS WERE WORKED OUT IN THE PREVIOUS ONE.
02:55:45PM THAT SUPPLY MOTION.
02:55:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KNOCK ON WOOD.
02:55:47PM MOTIONING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:55:49PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:55:50PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED?
02:55:53PM THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS.
02:55:54PM MR. SHELBY.
02:55:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:55:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THING IS GOOD.
02:55:59PM WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE AHEAD.
02:56:01PM I ENCOURAGE YOU HOW ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO KEEP THAT
02:56:07PM GOING.
02:56:07PM THAT'S IT.
02:56:08PM LAST ITEM OF BUSINESS, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:56:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, I DO WANT TO PUNT ON COUNCIL'S RADAR.
02:56:14PM AND I AM NOT SURE HOW TO -- HOW TO YOU KEEP THIS -- THESE
02:56:19PM IDEAS OF -- AND IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT
02:56:27PM NEXT WEEK -- SORRY, THE 28th TO APPROVE THIS.
02:56:30PM THINGS LIKE THE CHAIR, THE NO SUPERMAJORITY.
02:56:34PM WE NEED TO START -- WE HAD AN E-MAIL, I WANT TO SAY, BEFORE
02:56:38PM THAT WAS DEDICATED JUST TO SUGGESTIONS OR IF WE DIDN'T, WE
02:56:43PM NEED HAVE ONE, THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE CHARTER REVIEW FOR
02:56:48PM THIS YEAR.
02:56:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE OF TWO YOU GUYS ON IT.
02:56:51PM I THINK YOUR INPUT WILL BE INVALUABLE AND BECAUSE TO WORK
02:56:56PM WITH THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND BUMPS.
02:56:58PM SO MAYBE WHEN YOU GUYS COME TO THE --
02:57:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HATE TO WAIT UNTIL --
02:57:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS, WE CAN START THAT
02:57:09PM DISCUSSION ON AUGUST 28, BECAUSE I AM GOING.
02:57:12PM BY THE WAY, I AM GOING TO ASK ALL OF YOUR PLEASE, TO TAKE A
02:57:16PM LOOK -- RELY ON WHAT WAS DECIDED BUT AT THE KIND OF THINGS
02:57:21PM THAT WERE GIVEN.
02:57:24PM KIND OF THINGS, FOR INSTANCE, THERE SAYS THEY SHALL MEET AT
02:57:29PM LEAST ONCE A MONTH OR MORE IF THEY DESIRE DEPENDING ON WHAT
02:57:33PM YOUR SCOPE IS.
02:57:34PM IF YOU RECRUIT PEOPLE, YOU MAY HAVE TO MEET TWICE A WEEK OR
02:57:39PM TWICE A MONDAY WITH THE.
02:57:40PM PLEASE TAKE LOOK AT THOSE.
02:57:43PM DON'T -- LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
02:57:46PM AND SEE WHAT YOUR OWN INPUT IS AND COME TO A CONSENSUS SO I
02:57:53PM CAN COME BACK ON THE 28th TO OF THE PEOPLE YOU ARE
02:57:58PM RECRUITING OR RECOMMENDING AND SOLICIT AND ASK TO BE
02:58:01PM APPOINTED SO YOU CAN TELL THEM WHAT THEY ARE SIGNING UP FOR.
02:58:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:58:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT
02:58:08PM THIS, YOU REMINDED ME.
02:58:10PM THIS IS NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT A PRIOR ADMINISTRATION.
02:58:13PM THEY REFUSED TO ADVERTISE IT AT ALL.
02:58:16PM WE EVEN MADE A MOTION WHICH WE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY TO ASK
02:58:20PM THEM TO PUT IT ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE AS AN EVENT AND THEY
02:58:23PM REFUSED TO DO THAT.
02:58:24PM AS A RESULT, WE HAD TWO MEETINGS THAT HAD ANYBODY FROM THE
02:58:28PM PUBLIC.
02:58:29PM IN EACH CASE, ONE PERSON WHO HAD A SPECIFIC AGENDA ORGANIZED
02:58:33PM PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND PROPOSE THOSE ITEMS.
02:58:36PM ENDED UP THAT TWO APPLICATIONS WERE ON THERE THAT THE
02:58:40PM ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T WANT.
02:58:41PM HAD THEY ADVERTISED IT, MORE DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE SHOWING HOW
02:58:45PM TO DO INPUT.
02:58:45PM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
02:58:47PM I DON'T THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD DO THAT.
02:58:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMIND ME.
02:59:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LAST WEEK OF OCTOBER.
02:59:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR
02:59:05PM PERSON.
02:59:06PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:59:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY THING I DID WANT TO SAY.
02:59:10PM I COMPLETELY AGREE NOT ONLY THE ADVERTISING BUT THE SOCIAL
02:59:13PM MEDIA.
02:59:13PM SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THAT -- I AM TAKING NOTE.
02:59:16PM I WILL KEEP THESE.
02:59:17PM BUT I DO BELIEVE WHEN YOU TALK TO YOUR FOLKS, YOU SHOULD
02:59:23PM TALK ABOUT THEM ABOUT TWICE A MONTH.
02:59:25PM AND ONLY BECAUSE WHEN OFF MONTH BETWEEN, IT IS REALLY HARD
02:59:29PM TO REMEMBER.
02:59:30PM AND THAT WAY IF THEY END EARLY, WAHOO.
02:59:34PM IF THEY DON'T, THEY REALLY HAVE TIME.
02:59:36PM I AM TERRIFIED OF THE TIME HERE.
02:59:38PM SO IF WE DO TWICE A MONTH, THEN THEY -- THEY MIGHT JUST BE
02:59:43PM DONE.
02:59:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF COUNCIL IS WILLING TO PUT IT INTO THE
02:59:51PM ORDINANCE, I CAN PUT THAT IN THE ORDINANCE WHEN TO COMES
02:59:55PM BACK.
02:59:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LOOKING AT THIS, WE HAVE LOOK AT THE
02:59:58PM FACILITATOR, ATTORNEY, OTHER EXPENSES, LUNCH.
03:00:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY WERE EVENING MEETINGS.
03:00:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, TO FOLLOW.
03:00:07PM YOU AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW.
03:00:11PM THE CHARTER DOES STATE -- AND NECESSARY FUNDING SHOULD BE
03:00:15PM PROVIDED TO PROVIDE FULL TRANSPARENCY AND CITIZEN
03:00:19PM PARTICIPATION IN THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.
03:00:21PM THAT IS IN THE CHARTER.
03:00:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:00:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ALREADY HAD ONE PERSON CONTACTED ME
03:00:28PM INTERESTED IN BEING APPOINTED.
03:00:29PM LAST TIME, COUNCILMAN CARLSON CALLED ME THE NIGHT BEFORE
03:00:33PM EATING FRENCH TOAST ON FOWLER AVENUE.
03:00:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PLAIN FRENCH TOAST.
03:00:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLAIN FRENCH TOAST.
03:00:40PM NOT 2018 ANYMORE AS -- I WISH IT WERE.
03:00:46PM PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE VERY, VERY BUSY.
03:00:51PM I WOULD THINK MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
03:00:55PM ADVERTISING.
03:00:56PM WHY?
03:00:58PM BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE INQUIRING.
03:01:01PM THIS A BIG DEAL, THE CITY OF TAMPA CONSTITUTION.
03:01:03PM WE DIDN'T ADDRESS FROM SINCE THE 1970S.
03:01:07PM AND COUNCIL MEMBER CAPIN THAT BROUGHT THUMB.
03:01:12PM IT WAS OUTDATED.
03:01:13PM IT NEEDED A REFRESHING.
03:01:14PM THAT WE DO IT ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE WON'T HAVE THESE --
03:01:19PM LIKE I SAID IT MIGHT SHALL MORE CON CEASE AND THAT HEAVY
03:01:22PM LIFT SOMETHING OUT OF THE WAY.
03:01:23PM AND A MUCH SMOOTHER PROCESS.
03:01:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU LIKE, YOU CAN GIVE MORE
03:01:28PM CONSIDERATION INDIVIDUALLY OF HOW YOU WANT TO SOLICIT
03:01:31PM PARTICIPATION FOR MEMBERSHIP.
03:01:33PM AND IF YOU HAVE DIRECTION AND A CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL.
03:01:37PM I CAN PUT THAT IN A RESOLUTION.
03:01:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:01:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST WITHIN MORE THING.
03:01:45PM WE WILL WON'T GO THROUGH THE ISSUES WE SUGGEST NOW.
03:01:49PM I HIRE LAWYERS TO LOOK AT CONTRACTS, FOR EXAMPLE, A CONTRACT
03:01:55PM -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU AGREE WITH THIS.
03:01:56PM BUT THE CONTRACT, YOU MAY HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP ON THE
03:01:59PM WAY IN, BUT YOU HAVE TO WRITE IT TO EXIT.
03:02:01PM THE MOST IMPORTANT THING DO YOU WHO YOU SOLVE CONFLICTED AND
03:02:05PM HOW DO YOU EXIT.
03:02:08PM A LOT OF THE CONFLICT OVER THE LAST 16 OR SO YEARS SOME OF
03:02:13PM IT IS ILL DEFINED.
03:02:15PM FIXES SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL.
03:02:19PM ALSO PUTTING LIMITS LIKE NOT ALLOWING A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER
03:02:23PM TO WIN THE KARAOKE CONTEST TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
03:02:27PM [LAUGHTER]
03:02:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED
03:02:33PM FROM THE COMPETITION BECAUSE OF PROFESSIONAL TRAINING.
03:02:36PM SHE IS NOT AN AMATEUR.
03:02:37PM SHE IS NOW A PROFESSIONAL.
03:02:39PM SHE IS NOT AN AMATEUR.
03:02:40PM I CALL FOR DISQUALIFICATION.
03:02:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, SIR.
03:02:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CALL FOR A URINE TEST.
03:02:48PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:02:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ASK MISS SHARP TO BRING ME MY MOTIONS
03:02:58PM FOLDER.
03:02:58PM I FORGOT.
03:02:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, SOMETHING REASONABLY
03:03:04PM UNFORESEEABLE.
03:03:05PM IN MY CASES, 15 PAGES.
03:03:08PM THEY ARE AWFUL AND BRUTAL.
03:03:11PM SOMETHING LIKE AS LONG AS IT IS REASONABLY FORESEEABLE,
03:03:15PM YEAH, I THINK THAT IS FINE.
03:03:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
03:03:17PM IS THAT IT.
03:03:18PM ARE WE DONE WITH THIS?
03:03:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT A GREAT CONVERSATION.
03:03:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS GREAT CONVERSATION.
03:03:24PM NEW BUSINESS.
03:03:25PM START ON THIS SIDE.
03:03:28PM MR. MIRANDA.
03:03:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE A MOTION OFF-SITE COMMENDATION FOR
03:03:33PM BAPTIST INSTITUTION CHURCH IN CELEBRATION OF 160th BIRTHDAY.
03:03:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:03:43PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:03:44PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:03:45PM OPPOSED.
03:03:46PM AYES HAVE IT.
03:03:47PM IS THAT ALL?
03:03:48PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:03:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I STARTED TO SING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
03:03:52PM CHOIR.
03:03:52PM WHERE IT ALL BEGAN.
03:03:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHERE IT ALL BEGAN.
03:03:57PM DIDN'T SERVE YOU VERY WELL AT FOREST HILLS, DID IT?
03:04:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE MAKE A MOTION.
03:04:05PM I ALREADY SPOKE SOME OF THE ATTORNEYS AND CHIEF BENNETT.
03:04:10PM MAKE A MOTION FOR A WRITTEN REPORT ON ZION CEMETERY AT THE
03:04:13PM SEPTEMBER 18 REGULAR SESSION MEETING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE
03:04:17PM AND STATUS ON WHAT IS HAPPENING.
03:04:18PM AGAIN, I ALREADY TALKED TO SOME OF THEM.
03:04:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD MOTION.
03:04:23PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:04:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY OUT OF FUNDING, I SPEAK
03:04:28PM THIS OUT OF PURELY IGNORANCE.
03:04:31PM AGAIN, $8 MILLION.
03:04:32PM IS THE COUNTY LOOKING AT HELPING AT THAT?
03:04:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY QUESTION.
03:04:41PM I WAS REACH TO MR. HEARNS.
03:04:44PM IS THAT A MASTER PLAN AND WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, DO
03:04:51PM THEY START DEMOLISHING THOSE AND SAY THIS IS SACRED GROUND?
03:04:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE LAST I SAW THAT WAS THE PLAN.
03:04:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT DOES THAT $8 MILLION ENTAIL.
03:05:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN GET DIFFERENT BUCKETS.
03:05:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LAST I SAWM THEY WILL TAKE THOSE BUILDINGS
03:05:09PM AND NOT BUILD ON IT.
03:05:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE ALL AGREE IF THAT IS THE PANEL WILL AND THE
03:05:14PM PLAN THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
03:05:15PM I WAS TOUCH BY EVERYBODY.
03:05:16PM JARVIS, HE REALLY TOUCHED ME.
03:05:19PM BUT, YEAH, I AM FUNDED, MAN, HOWEVER.
03:05:21PM I DON'T CARE.
03:05:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:05:25PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:05:27PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:05:28PM OPPOSED.
03:05:29PM AYES HAVE IT.
03:05:30PM IS THAT PAUL?
03:05:31PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:05:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WITH -- [ LAUGHTER ] --
03:05:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LOOK AT THE TROPHY I GOT.
03:05:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOREST HILLS TROPHY.
03:05:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS THE PICTURE?
03:05:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A PICTURE OF ALL OF US SINGING.
03:05:46PM OUR ALBUM COVER.
03:05:47PM THIS WILL BE THE COVER OF NEXT YEAR'S POSTER TO ENCOURAGE
03:05:51PM ALL OF US TO GO.
03:05:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHO PRODUCED THAT?
03:05:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOREST HILLS
03:06:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHERE IS IT AVAILABLE?
03:06:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SING, GO TO LUIS
03:06:08PM VIERA'S FACEBOOK.
03:06:09PM HE HAD THE VIDEO UP AND OTHERS MAY HAVE IT UP AS WELL.
03:06:12PM A REALLY FUN TIME.
03:06:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WASN'T ABOUT THE CONTEST.
03:06:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
03:06:17PM BUT I WAS JUST SAYING TO PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CITY OUR
03:06:20PM SIZE WHERE ALL OF US CAN GET TOGETHER AND BE -- AND DO
03:06:26PM SOMETHING THAT QUITE FRANKLY WAS -- I MEAN, WE JUST -- I
03:06:30PM MEAN -- IT WAS A FUN ACTIVITY.
03:06:33PM AND IT WAS -- IT WAS SELF-DEPRECATING, BUT IT WAS OUT THERE
03:06:39PM JUST TO HAVE FUN.
03:06:40PM I WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT AND
03:06:44PM ENJOY WORKING WITH EVERYONE.
03:06:45PM BECAUSE IT IS JUST -- THAT IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT MAKES
03:06:48PM THIS FUN.
03:06:48PM AND PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, FOREST HILLS, THEY ARE ALWAYS
03:06:53PM OUT FOR A GREAT TIME.
03:06:55PM A WONDERFUL SPACE.
03:06:55PM IF YOU LIKE KARAOKE.
03:06:58PM THEY DO IT THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT 6 P.M., DOES
03:07:01PM IT BEGIN?
03:07:02PM 6 P.M. DON'T BE A STRANGER.
03:07:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT LOCATION IS THAT?
03:07:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE GOLF COURSE, THEIR CLUBHOUSE.
03:07:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
03:07:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: FUN TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE
03:07:15PM THAT SHOWED UP.
03:07:16PM PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT ISSUES.
03:07:18PM SHOWED UP TO SEE HOW FUNNY.
03:07:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HALF OF PUBLIC COMMENT WAS THERE.
03:07:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT MADE IT FUN.
03:07:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY SAW US IN DIFFERENT LIGHT.
03:07:29PM NOT JUST SITTING UP HERE.
03:07:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY GOT TO SEE MY LEGS.
03:07:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMEBODY MADE THE COMMENT.
03:07:35PM I NEVER SEEN YOU IN SHORTS.
03:07:36PM WELL, IT WAS REALLY HOT BECAUSE IT WAS OUTSIDE.
03:07:39PM IT WAS NICE.
03:07:40PM UNDER FANS AND WONDERFUL AT TIMES.
03:07:42PM I AM GOING TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I HAVE A VERY LONG MOTION.
03:07:46PM FROM DIRECTOR FEELEY.
03:07:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD LORD.
03:07:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TALKED OF DOING THE CITY OF TAMPA WORKSHOP.
03:07:56PM I MOVE TO REVISE THE AGENDA FOR THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
03:07:59PM SCHEDULED FOR SETTLEMENT 25, 2025 AT 9 A.M. TO CENTER AROUND
03:08:04PM LAND DEVELOPMENT AND PLAN REGULATED TOPICS ALLOWING US TO
03:08:08PM FOCUS ON KEY MATTERS THAT HAVE UPDATES AND POTENTIAL
03:08:12PM CLOSURE.
03:08:12PM TO THAT END, I MOVE FOR THE FOLLOWING ADJUSTMENTS.
03:08:16PM ITEM NUMBER ONE, RETAIN ITEM ONE, THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC
03:08:21PM HERITAGE AS SCHEDULED GIVEN SHORT DURATION AND IMPORTANCE IN
03:08:24PM RECOGNIZING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
03:08:27PM ITEM NUMBER TWO, DEFER ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE BIANNUAL CAPITAL
03:08:32PM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT REPORT AND PRESENTATION TO A WORKSHOP IN
03:08:37PM JANUARY OR FEBRUARY OF '26.
03:08:39PM SINCE THE STRENGTHS ALREADY INCLUDED IN A FY '26 BUDGET
03:08:43PM PROCESS AND NEW FISCAL YEAR BEGINS OCTOBER 1, 2025.
03:08:47PM NEXT, COMBINE ITEM THREE -- EXCUSE ME, COMBINE ITEM THREE TO
03:08:56PM ITEM FIVE AS THEY WILL ADDRESS PART OF THE BROADER JULY
03:09:01PM CYCLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT APPLICATION.
03:09:04PM THESE ITEMS ISSUE SHOULD BE PRESENTED UNDER ITEM FIVE.
03:09:09PM NEXT, REMOVE ITEM THREE -- THIS IS THE ONE WE WEREN'T AGE TO
03:09:13PM CONFIRM.
03:09:13PM SEAWALL AND DOCK USAGE IN RESIDENTIAL USES AS THE MATTER
03:09:17PM APPLES TO BE RESOLVED.
03:09:19PM WE DON'T KNOW.
03:09:19PM THAT HAS BEEN RESOLVED.
03:09:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: LEAVE THAT ONE OUT RIGHT NOW.
03:09:23PM I NEED TO TALK TO RON WIGGINTON.
03:09:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LEAVE THAT IN FOR RIGHT NOW?
03:09:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: HE WILL SEE IF THAT POSSIBLE.
03:09:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ADD THE FOLLOWING PRESENTATION TO THE
03:09:36PM SETTLEMENT 2025 AGENDA TO SUPPORT THE FOCUS.
03:09:38PM TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
03:09:42PM TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE COASTAL ACTION PLAN.
03:09:45PM WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT.
03:09:46PM THE TAMPA HOPE REPORT PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED BY A MOTION BUT
03:09:49PM NOT YET SCHEDULED.
03:09:50PM AND THAT FOR THAT.
03:09:53PM TAKE UP ITEM 6, DISCUSSION ON SENATE 180 AS FIRST ITEM OF
03:09:59PM THE WORKSHOP.
03:10:00PM GIVEN THE TIME SENSITIVE NATURE OF LAST BRIEF UPDATE ON THE
03:10:07PM LIVE-LOCAL ACT PACED ONLY MODIFICATIONS.
03:10:10PM THIS MOTION WILL STREAMLINE THE AGENDA, CLOSE OUT OPEN ITEMS
03:10:16PM AND PROVIDE WITH SEVERAL CRITICAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
03:10:20PM INITIATIVES.
03:10:21PM >> MY GOODNESS.
03:10:22PM THIS IS ALL GOOD BUT MAKES MY HEAD HURT.
03:10:24PM >> ASK A QUICK QUESTION.
03:10:29PM >> WHEN YOU TALK OF COASTAL AREA ACTION RECOMMENDATIONS.
03:10:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK IT IS THE ACTUAL PANEL.
03:10:36PM BEFORE THAT WAS SORT OF THE DRAFT PLAN.
03:10:39PM THIS ONE APPARENTLY THE PLAN IS DONE.
03:10:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. SHELBY.
03:10:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU TALKED OF MOVED BIANNUAL REPORT TO
03:10:52PM JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, BUT YOU DIDN'T GIVE SPECIFIC DIRECTION
03:10:55PM TO THAT YET.
03:10:56PM THAT IS HANGING OUT THERETO AS PART OF YOUR MOTION.
03:10:59PM IT WILL FALL OFF -- IF YOUR MOTION IS TO REMOVE IT, IT WOULD
03:11:03PM BE WISE IF YOU WANT TO PLACE IT SOME PLACE AS A PLACEHOLDER.
03:11:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL PUT IT SOMEWHERE IN HERE.
03:11:12PM LUCAS HARRIS, I WILL CHANGE THAT TO THE JANUARY 29 WORKSHOP.
03:11:26PM CLENDENIN WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
03:11:32PM HURTAK.
03:11:32PM AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:11:35PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:11:36PM OPPOSED.
03:11:37PM THE AYES HAVE IT.
03:11:38PM MOTION TO ADOPT THE AMENDED RESOLUTION.
03:11:41PM ALL NOSE FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:11:44PM OPPOSED, THE AYES HAVE IT.
03:11:45PM OKAY.
03:11:47PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:11:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:11:49PM A COUPLE OF QUICK ONCE.
03:11:50PM AND FUNNY BY WAY, SPEAKING OF KARAOKE.
03:11:53PM I NEVER HAVE PLANNED SONGS BUT I WAS GOING TO SING "I AM A
03:11:58PM ROCK" BY SIMON AND GARFUNKEL AND "TALK DIRTY TO ME."
03:12:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONLY REASON YOU DIDN'T WIN.
03:12:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: CC PICKED UP THE GUITAR.
03:12:14PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK DID A GREAT JOB.
03:12:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LIKE BEING AT A LYNN HURTAK CONCERT.
03:12:19PM I SAT THERE WITH IS A SMILE ON MY FACE THE WHOLE TIME.
03:12:22PM I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I SIT NEXT TO THIS WOMAN AND SHE SINGS
03:12:27PM LIKE THIS.
03:12:28PM CRAZY.
03:12:28PM IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
03:12:29PM SO BEAUTIFUL.
03:12:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOREST HILLS, THEY ARE GREAT, GREAT PEOPLE
03:12:33PM HERE.
03:12:33PM WE STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
03:12:35PM I WOULD GO THERE FOR KARAOKE, AND I INVITED GUIDO, TO COME
03:12:42PM OUT AND WE HAD THIS LAME KARAOKE AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
03:12:47PM CAME.
03:12:47PM AND IT WAS COOL AND EVERYBODY COMES AND HANS GREAT TIME.
03:12:50PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING AND
03:12:54PM GOLD REST HER SOUL.
03:12:55PM I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
03:12:57PM UNDERSTANDING THAT A PARK BENCH -- IF WE PUT A NAME ON A
03:13:03PM PARK BENCH.
03:13:04PM NOT A PROPERTY RENAMING, RIGHT?
03:13:06PM THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT.
03:13:07PM SO I -- I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
03:13:11PM A YOUNG MAN, GABE, GOD REST HIS SOUL.
03:13:15PM HE PASSED ON ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
03:13:19PM AN EAGLE SCOUT.
03:13:20PM HIS FAMILY HAVE VERY ACTIVE, AND I WORKED WITH HIS PARENTS.
03:13:29PM WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PEOPLE
03:13:30PM AND THEY DO A BLOOD DRIVE AT ATS MOSQUE AND DIFFERENT
03:13:34PM THINGS.
03:13:35PM I WANTED A PARK BENCH RENAMING.
03:13:38PM NO MOTION YET, I WILL DO IT NEXT WEEK SO YOU CAN HAVE THE
03:13:42PM FULL INFORMATION.
03:13:43PM THAT IS IMPORTANT EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT -- AND THEN, I WILL
03:13:48PM DO A MOTION FOR A WRITTEN REPORT ON THE STATUS
03:13:50PM K-BAR RANCH TO TAMPA FIRE WITH THE RESPONSE TIMES.
03:13:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DIDN'T WE HAVE THAT?
03:13:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEY ARE TELLING TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
03:14:00PM IT IS GOING TO BE LIKE A LONG TIME.
03:14:03PM I WANT TO -- WANT TO PUNT THAT ON OUR RADAR AND MAN IN
03:14:07PM PERSON REPORT.
03:14:07PM AND I WOULD HAVE THAT ON -- YEAH, IT WILL BE LIKE TWO YEARS
03:14:11PM WHICH IS OBSCENE, I HEAR.
03:14:12PM YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S DO IT -- LET'S -- SEPTEMBER 4.
03:14:18PM AGAIN IT IS A WRITTEN REPORT, IF I MAY.
03:14:21PM MIRANDA SECOND CLENDENIN A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA
03:14:30PM AND IS SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:14:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AND AYES HAVE IT.
03:14:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVING ITS DISABILITY APPRENTICE WITH
03:14:42PM RESULTS IN FIDUCIARY OVERSIGHT WITHIN THE HUMAN RESOURCES
03:14:46PM SIMILAR TO THE COLLEGE INTERNSHIP.
03:14:49PM CONTACT MISS WYNN.
03:14:52PM IF I AM NOT MISSING SOMETHING, IT IS NOT A YES OR NO.
03:14:57PM CONTINUE INTO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AUGUST
03:15:03PM 28 FOR A MOTION FOR A BETTER RESPONSE ON THIS.
03:15:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:15:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN I READ IT, IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WOULD
03:15:16PM JUST PUT THERE.
03:15:17PM I TREAD AS, OKAY, WE CAN JUST SLIDE IT ON IN THERE.
03:15:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL THREAD IT IN THE MOST OPTIMISTIC WAY,
03:15:29PM AND I WILL MEET WITH MISS WYNN AND JUST COME FIRM.
03:15:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. VIERA, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU HAVE
03:15:39PM TO TAKEUP AT A BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING AN THE TIME TO CONFIRM
03:15:45PM THAT, AND I WILL TALK TO MR. VASKE.
03:15:47PM AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE ACTION ON.
03:15:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO IN THE
03:15:54PM REQUESTED BUDGET.
03:15:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK YOU ALREADY FUNDED IT.
03:15:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS THE MESSED UP THING.
03:16:00PM FUNDED THROUGH SOCIAL ACTION WHATEVER, RIGHT.
03:16:03PM AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATION TELLS US THAT YOU ARE CARPED AT
03:16:06PM $100,000 FOR EACH PERSON.
03:16:08PM THAT INCLUDES THE SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP.
03:16:11PM THAT IS WHY AMONG A LOT OF THE REASONS I AM NOT,
03:16:13PM BECAUSE THAT RULE IN EFFECT GETS RID OF THE FUNDING BUT THEN
03:16:16PM THE QUESTION MAY BE ASKED, WHY FUND IT IF THEY ARE NOT GOING
03:16:20PM TO HIRE INTERNS.
03:16:22PM THAT IS THE US FROM REHABILITATION.
03:16:23PM LAYERED SANDWICH OF FRUSTRATION.
03:16:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MEET WITH MISS COPESKY AND TO INFORM HER IN
03:16:33PM ON THIS ISSUE.
03:16:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND MOTION, GRAHAM HAMPTON.
03:16:37PM I REMEMBER GOING TO A CANDIDATE FORUM YEARS AGO.
03:16:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I FELT LIKE I WAS IN ATLANTA BY THE TIME
03:16:42PM -- ITS EDGE OF PASCO COUNTY.
03:16:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS.
03:16:49PM YOU HAVE PASCO COUNTY.
03:16:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO INTO PASCO TO GET INTO THERE.
03:16:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEY HAVE A CHARTER SCHOOL BEING BUILT.
03:16:58PM NORTH WOOD CHARTER SCHOOL BUILT UP NEXT YEAR.
03:17:01PM AND A LOT OF CONCERN FROM HAMPTON RESIDENTS ON THE TRAFFIC
03:17:07PM WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND THE NEED TO POTENTIALLY
03:17:11PM HAVE AFTER TRAFFIC LIGHT AT 517 COUNTY LINE ROAD.
03:17:17PM I ALREADY SENT INFORMATION TO GET IN TOUCH WITH LAURA MALLOY
03:17:22PM AND CHRIS HAYNES AT GRAND HAMPTON WITH THE POTENTIAL OF A
03:17:29PM LIGHT AT THIS LOCATION.
03:17:30PM MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS CITY.
03:17:33PM FOR THE CITY TO WORK WITH THE GOVERNMENT ENTITY PASCO,
03:17:39PM HILLSBOROUGH, ALABAMA OR WHOEVER TO GET A LIGHT THERE.
03:17:43PM THIS IS RELATIVELY EASY.
03:17:45PM NOT TO GET THE LIGHT, BUT EFFORTS MADE TO REPORT BACK TO US.
03:17:48PM AND I HAVE THIS COMING BACK TO US, PLEASE, ON -- SEPTEMBER
03:17:54PM 11 WRITTEN REPORT.
03:17:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:17:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:17:58PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:18:00PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:18:01PM OPPOSED?
03:18:02PM THE AYES HAVE IT.
03:18:04PM SEPTEMBER 11 IS A -- A CRA FOR THE DAY.
03:18:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:18:11PM SEPTEMBER 18.
03:18:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED
03:18:15PM MOTION FOR THE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 18.
03:18:18PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:18:20PM OPPOSED.
03:18:20PM THE AYES HAVE IT.
03:18:22PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:18:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK GOD.
03:18:26PM [LAUGHTER]
03:18:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE ALL GOT THREE YEARS OLDER.
03:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.
03:18:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVERY TEN YEARS WITH THIS KIND OF TALK.
03:18:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT MY
03:18:37PM FORM FOR NUMBER 33 TODAY.
03:18:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
03:18:43PM A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:18:44PM AYES HAVE IT.
03:18:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE STATE THE KARAOKE CONTEST WAS
03:18:51PM UNFAIR BECAUSE CHARLIE WAS TELLING TO MANY JOKES THAT I
03:18:54PM COULDN'T SING.
03:18:55PM I WAS LAUGH TOO WERE.
03:18:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS YOUR EXCUSE.
03:19:00PM THAT IS A LIE, BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD CHARLIE MIRANDA TELL A
03:19:04PM JOKE THAT I ACTUALLY LAUGHED AT.
03:19:06PM [LAUGHTER]
03:19:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: CHARLIE WAS MAKING ME LAUGH SO MUCH MY FACE
03:19:13PM WAS SORE WHEN I LEFT.
03:19:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OH, MY WORD.
03:19:17PM HE USES THE SAME MATERIAL ON ME.
03:19:19PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, PLEASE.
03:19:20PM CAN I GET RECOGNIZED?
03:19:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: RECOGNIZE YOU, CHAIR.
03:19:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
03:19:26PM YOU JUST REMINDED ME OF ONE.
03:19:29PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR MOBILITY TO PROVIDE A
03:19:32PM WRITTEN REPORT ON SEPTEMBER 18 ABOUT MOVING THE CROSSWALK
03:19:37PM ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND TWO BREVARD AND SWANN.
03:19:44PM I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THERE WAS A RUMOR OF PUTTING A TRAFFIC
03:19:48PM LIGHT THERE, WHICH WILL BE CHAOTIC FOR THE TRAFFIC AT THAT
03:19:52PM THE INTERSECTION.
03:19:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:19:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
03:19:56PM YOU ARE UP.
03:19:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE TO SAY THIS.
03:20:01PM CAN THIS BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ANSWERED IN A PHONE CALL.
03:20:04PM YOU TRIED?
03:20:05PM I GET IT.
03:20:06PM MOTION BY CHAIR CLENDENIN.
03:20:07PM SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:20:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:20:12PM ANY OPPOSED?
03:20:14PM AYES HAVE IT.
03:20:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
03:20:17PM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:20:18PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:20:19PM ALL IN FAVOR.
03:20:21PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
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