TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, AUGUST 28, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:04:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
IF EVERYBODY WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE
AND A RECOGNITION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN MINNEAPOLIS YESTERDAY
MORNING, THE SENSELESS LOSS OF LIFE THROUGH GUN VIOLENCE
ONCE AGAIN AFFECTING CHILDREN.
TOO MANY CHILDREN IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE DIED AS A RESULT OF
GUN VIOLENCE.
[MOMENT OF SILENCE]
THANK YOU.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
9:05:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:05:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:05:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:05:41AM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?

9:05:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:05:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:05:44AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:05:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE A MOTION TO
APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 7 AND THE EVENING SESSION OF
AUGUST 21st.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR ITEM NUMBER 2 FROM F.D.O.T. TO
CONTINUE THAT ITEM TO 9/18.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION ON THIS ONE?
MAYBE IT'S OUT OF ORDER.
THIS CAME FROM -- IT'S BEEN ON THE AGENDA SINCE 2020.
COULD WE HAVE THIS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA AND MAYBE RETHINK
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM THEM MORE SPECIFIC?
9:06:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WELL, IT WAS ON THE CRA AGENDA FOR MANY,
MANY YEARS BEFORE THAT.
AND I SUGGESTED MOVING IT TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE BEFORE
THEN WORKFORCE ONLY AFFECTING CRA AREAS.
WE MOVED IT SO THEY COULD UPDATE US ON WHATEVER THEY WANTED

CITYWIDE.
9:06:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS THINKING IF SOMEBODY WOULD COME UP
WITH SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS MAYBE.
9:06:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ACTUALLY DID THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING IN SEPTEMBER IS COMING WITH
SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
I THINK AFTER THE SEPTEMBER PRESENTATION, MAYBE WE CAN
REVISIT.
9:06:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
INSTEAD OF TAKING OFF THE AGENDA, MAYBE WE
DO, AS YOU SAY, NARROW THE SCOPE.
9:07:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMOVE THIS ONE AND INTRODUCE A NEW ONE SO
IT'S CURRENT AND APPLICABLE TODAY.
9:07:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST THIS ONE TODAY WE'RE MOVING.
9:07:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONTINUE THIS AND HAVE IT REMOVED -- OKAY.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL SEPTEMBER 18.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
I NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 76 FROM THE AGENDA PER
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S REQUEST.
9:07:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONLY REASON I'M REMOVING IT IS BECAUSE WE
HAD A PRETTY LENGTHY DISCUSSION ALREADY THIS MONTH BEFORE
STORMWATER DURING THE STORMWATER BUDGET.

IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TAKING IT AWAY.
WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM A DUE BREAK MOVING FORWARD.
THEY WILL HAVE THE REPORT ONLINE, I BELIEVE.
BUT WE WILL GO TO NEXT MONTH TO TALK ABOUT STORMWATER.
9:08:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO CONTINUE ITEM 77
TO NOVEMBER 6.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS ON HERE?
9:08:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE IS A REQUEST THAT THE ANNUAL REPORT OF
BODY WORN CAMERAS BE DISCONTINUED.
I STILL THINK THAT'S RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT.
9:08:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS COUNCIL'S THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?
9:08:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ARE YOU GOING THROUGH THE STAFF --
9:08:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS.
9:08:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LEAVE IT ON.

WHEN THEY WERE IN TEST PHASE AND THEN EXPANDED THEM, THE
COMMUNITY WAS IN FAVOR AND THE POLICE IN FAVOR, SO IT
BENEFITS BOTH.
NOT FOR OR AGAINST ANYBODY.
9:09:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS HAS BEEN ON SINCE '21.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN THIS, REMOVE THIS
ITEM FROM THE AGENDA AND THEN COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT
WAS --
9:09:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S NOT REMOVING FROM THE AGENDA.
THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT, WE'RE STUDIO RECEIVE AND FILE IT.
MAYBE COUNCILMAN VIERA, SINCE IT'S HIS COMMITTEE, COULD TALK
TO THE CHIEF ABOUT THE MODIFICATION OF IT.
9:09:42AM >> DELIGHTED.
9:09:43AM >> CAN WE APPROVE THE CHIEF'S REQUEST TO REMOVE THIS AND
COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL TAKE AN IOU TO REWORK THIS IN A MORE
APPLICABLE WAY?
9:09:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MEAN, MAYBE I CAN SPEAK AND UPDATE YOU ALL
ON IT NEXT WEEK.
9:09:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE JUST GOING TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
WRITTEN REPORT.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

9:10:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
82 NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 4.
9:10:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO
CONTINUE ITEM 82 TO SEPTEMBER 4.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:10:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE REASON MS. WYNN TOLD ME, THE PowerPoint
IS READY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE CLEARER FOR
UNDERSTANDING.
IT'S TRULY MOVING TO NEXT WEEK.
WE'RE NOT MOVING THIS FORWARD.
THIS IS ABOUT JULIAN B. LANE RIVER CENTER AND THE
TRANSPARENCY AND NEW POLICY UPDATES.
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS WORKING
ON CLOSELY.
I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO THINK WE'RE STOPPING IT.
WE'RE JUST MOVING IT TO NEXT WEEK.
THE WRITTEN TREE CANOPY STUDY NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED TO
NOVEMBER 6.
9:10:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MOVE TO CONTINUE TO NOVEMBER 6.
9:10:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE
ITEM 83 TO NOVEMBER 6, 2025.
THAT'S FROM STAFF.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED, SAY NO.

THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS.
9:11:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE IDEA OF THIS WAS THAT WE COULD TAKE A
SNAPSHOT AFTER THE HURRICANES.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE DONE A YEAR AGO.
THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE CHANCE DEVELOPMENT WILL GET IN
AND WON'T HAVE AN ACCURATE READING OF WHAT THE HURRICANES
DID.
9:11:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE WILL NOT BE A STAFF REPORT.
EVERYBODY WISH CHIEF BENNETT GOOD THOUGHTS.
HE'S NOT FEELING WELL TODAY.
I BELIEVE HE WILL BE WATCHING US ON TV AND AVAILABLE IF WE
NEEDED HIM.
NO ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT TODAY.
ANYBODY ELSE WITH THE AGENDA?
STAFF REPORTS.
9:11:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE THING BEFORE I GET A LETTER FROM THE
MAYOR?
I MISSPOKE.
THIS TREE CANOPY WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DONE SEVERAL
MONTHS AGO, NOT LAST YEAR, JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD.
9:12:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
RECORD CORRECTED.
9:12:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THE REVISED
RESOLUTION FOR 69.
I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT ON.
9:12:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WANT STAFF FOR 69.

DO WE WANT STAFF FOR 70?
9:12:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ALREADY HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
I THINK WE CAN JUST APPROVE IT.
9:12:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
71?
ERIC WEISS IS AVAILABLE.
NO.
9:12:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PLEASE ANNOUNCE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN SO THE
STAFF LISTENING CAN KNOW.
9:12:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DO NOT REQUIRE STAFF FOR 70 OR 71.
72?
9:12:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:12:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY IS GIVING US $13 MILLION TO FIX THEIR INTERSECTIONS.
9:13:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T DETECT THAT.
WE DO NOT REQUIRE STAFF FOR ITEM 72.
9:13:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OR 73 BECAUSE THEY GO TOGETHER.
9:13:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OR 73, YOU'RE RIGHT.
74?
9:13:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:13:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THERE WAS A CONSULTANT AVAILABLE FOR 74.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FORWARD TO STAFF'S REPORT ON 74.
75?
9:13:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]

9:13:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IT'S YOURS.
9:13:30AM >>BILL CARLSON:
STAFF DOESN'T HAVE MORE TO THAT.
THERE MAY BE PEOPLE IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WANT TO SPEAK.
FOR NOW, THE NEIGHBORS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA ARE GOING TO
HANDLE IT WITH STAFF AND SEE WHAT THEY REALLY GET.
9:13:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAFF, WE DO NOT NEED YOUR PRESENCE FOR
ITEM 75.
9:13:47AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHOULD WE RECEIVE AND FILE IT?
9:13:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
9:13:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
9:13:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DID NOT REQUIRE A
STAFF REPORT ON.
9:13:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WAIT A SECOND, IF I CAN -- YEAH, ESPECIALLY
ON THE BIG TICKET ITEMS.
WHEN YOU ARE DONE WITH THE CONSENT DOCKET, WE CAN GO BACK TO
THE ONES THAT CAN BE MOVED.
9:14:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ATTORNEY SHELBY.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA?
9:14:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTITUTES?
9:14:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DEAL WITH THEM WHEN THEY COME UP?
9:14:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
FOR 77, WAS THAT ALREADY MOVED TO NOVEMBER 6?
THANK YOU.
9:14:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD DEFER TO COUNCILMAN VIERA TO AN
ACKNOWLEDGMENT FOR SPECIAL GUESTS WE HAVE IN CHAMBERS.
9:14:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

9:14:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDS FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AGENDA IS APPROVED.
9:14:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WANTED TO WELCOME STUDENTS FROM REALIZING EXCEPTIONAL
ACHIEVEMENTS, A COMMUNITY HOSPITAL.
REALIZING EXCEPTIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS COMMUNITY HOSPITAL ALSO
KNOWN AS REACH, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL ADULT
EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES TRAINING AND SUPPORT TO
YOUNG ADULTS.
REACH OFFERS EACH STUDENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE CAREER
OPTIONS, UTILIZE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND IMPROVE
SELF-ADVOCACY AND SOCIAL SKILLS THAT WILL ENSURE THEIR
POTENTIAL AS SUCCESSFUL, INDEPENDENT, AND CONTRIBUTING
MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.
I WANTED TO WELCOME THESE NICE FOLKS HERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT WOULD BE OKAY IF EACH
STUDENT CAME UP, IF THEY ARE COMFORTABLE, AND GAVE THEIR
NAME.
THERE'S ABOUT A DOZEN.
9:15:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING NO OBJECTION, APPROVED.
9:15:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND GIVE YOUR NAMES, WE WOULD BE

DELIGHTED.
THANK YOU.
9:15:41AM >> CAMERON.
9:15:42AM >> CRYSTAL.
9:15:42AM >> EMMA.
9:15:51AM >> CONNER.
9:15:58AM >> ANDREW.
9:16:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, ANDREW.
9:16:03AM >> NICE TO MEET YOU.
9:16:06AM >> MY NAME IS SAMANTHA.
9:16:11AM >> THE TEACHERS.
SONYA GONZALEZ.
9:16:14AM >> MALIKA REYNOLDS.
9:16:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE
GROUP?
9:16:18AM >> WELL, THESE STUDENTS ARE AMAZING.
THEY ALL UTILIZE THE CITY TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO AND FROM
THE HOSPITAL.
THAT'S WHERE THEY WORK AT.
WE LOVE HART.
WE LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE HART BUS LINE.
THEY REALLY, REALLY HELP US OUT FOR OUR STUDENTS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:16:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP AT CITY

COUNCIL THIS MORNING.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:16:46AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANTED TO THANK OUR HART BOARD MEMBER GARY
FOR STARTING THAT CLASS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WON'T BREAK SUNSHINE BY ENGAGING WITH YOU ON THAT CLAP.
MAY I INTRODUCE MR. CLEMENS?
9:16:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 1.
COUNCILMAN VIERA'S ITEM.
TAKE IT AWAY, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:17:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. CLAYTON CLEMENS,
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PROJECT FOCUS, A NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
CLAYTON OVERSEES STRATEGIC PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP,
CULTIVATION, MEDIA RELATION AND OTHER EFFORTS GEARED TOWARD
EXPANDING THE ORGANIZATION'S IMPACT.
LONG-TERM VISION INCLUDES DEVELOPING A STATE-OF-THE-ART
LIVING COMMUNITY WHERE PERSONS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL
DISABILITIES CAN LEARN, THRIVE, LIVE INDEPENDENTLY.
HE LEVERAGES BACKGROUND IN POLITICS, GOVERNMENT RELATIONS
AND STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS TO DRIVE PROJECT FOCUS' GROWTH.
HE HOLDS A LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT -- WEARS DIFFERENT HATS.
PROUD UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA GRADUATE AND ALSO A CROSS-FIT
COACH AND VOLUNTEERS WITH MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY LIVE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
CLAYTON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
I INVITED HIM OVER BECAUSE PROJECT FOCUS IS STARTING TO WORK
ON GETTING EXPOSURE FOR THE LARGE HOUSING INITIATIVE THEY
ARE TRYING TO DO FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU FIVE MINUTES OR SO TO TALK ABOUT IT TO
THE COMMUNITY.
GO AHEAD.
9:18:10AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HAVING ME
TODAY.
I DO HAVE A PowerPoint THAT WILL HAVE SOME BRIEF PHOTOS
THAT WILL PLAY DURING THIS PRESENTATION.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR HIS
EFFORTS IN CONTINUING TO SUPPORT YOUNG ADULTS WITH
DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AND ALL OF THE COUNCIL'S EFFORTS
IN ADDRESSING OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.
AS I SAID, MY NAME IS CLAYTON CLEMENS.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PROJECT FOCUS.
BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, I'D LIKE TO --
9:18:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PAUSE ONE MOMENT WHILE I ADMONISH SOMEBODY
FOR TALKING IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER.
MR. MICHELINI, WOULD YOU PLEASE HAVE A SEAT AND STOP THE
CONVERSATIONS INTERRUPTING OUR PROCEEDING.
CONTINUE.

9:19:00AM >> NO PROBLEM.
AS I SAID, I WANT TO PAUSE AND DISCUSS MY WHY.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE SLIDE SHOW BACK UP REAL QUICK.
MY WHY IS MY NEPHEW RHETT.
HE IS TEN YEARS OLD.
IN UTERO HE SUFFERED A STROKE.
INFANTILE SEIZURES A YEAR AND HALF HIS BRAIN DISCONNECTED.
HE IS THE REASON WHY I AM HERE TODAY TO ADVOCATE FOR PROJECT
FOCUS.
I INVITE EACH OF YOU TODAY TO REFLECT ON YOUR WHY, WHY YOU
RAN FOR OFFICE, WHAT GETS YOU UP IN THE MORNING, WHAT'S YOUR
PURPOSE AND WHAT'S THE LEGACY THAT YOU WANT TO LEAVE.
PROJECT FOCUS IS A NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING YOUNG
ADULTS THROUGH EDUCATION, WORKFORCE AND LIFE SKILL
DEVELOPMENT.
WE SUPPORT AN -- WE ARE THE UMBRELLA NONPROFIT SUPPORTING
OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
UNDER THAT UMBRELLA, WE HAVE FOCUS ACADEMY, A PUBLIC CHARTER
SCHOOL FOR MIDDLE, HIGH SCHOOL, AND TRANSITION STUDENTS.
IT WAS FOUNDED AS A PLACE OF JOY BY SOME PARENTS AND
ADVOCATES HERE TODAY BEHIND ME.
WE HAVE THE FOCUS CAFE.
IT IS LOCATED IN THE TEMPLE TERRACE REC CENTER AND SERVES AS
JOB TRAINING SITE FOR STUDENTS YEAR ROUND.
FOCUS FORWARD IS AN ADULT DAY TRAINING PROGRAM FOR 22 TO 30

YEAR OLDS AND UP, CONNECTING WITH THE COMMUNITY,
VOLUNTEERING.
WE HAVE A WORKFORCE READINESS TRAINING PROGRAM.
WE JUST LAUNCHED THROUGH THE STATE'S VR PROGRAM ALLOWING US
TO ADAPT THE MATERIAL TO GEAR IT TOWARDS THE POPULATION WE
SERVE.
AND WE JUST LAUNCHED OUR FOCUS DAY SCHOOL, ALLOWING US TO
SERVE GRADES 3 THROUGH 6.
EXPANDING OUR SERVICES TO SUPPORT YOUNGER STUDENTS, WHICH IS
CRUCIAL.
YOU'LL SEE SOME PHOTOS NOW FROM OUR PROGRAMS AS I CONTINUE
ON.
THANKS TO OUR FOUNDERS, LORETTA GALLO-LOPEZ AND JOSEPHINE
ISENBERGH BEHIND ME, WE UTILIZED DRAMA THERAPY, THE ARTS,
MENTAL WELLNESS A DIFFERENT APPROACH FROM OTHER PROGRAMS.
IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF ALL OF THE PROGRAMS.
THESE TOOLS CREATE GROWTH, FOSTER FRIENDSHIPS.
THEY HELP INDIVIDUALS CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER, BELONG, AND
THEY CONTRIBUTE MEANINGFULLY TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS PROGRAM TO THIS SCALE IS NOT BEING DONE IN ANY SETTING
THAT WE KNOW OF ANYWHERE ELSE.
TODAY WE SERVE OVER 160 STUDENTS AND YOUNG ADULTS EVERY DAY
IN OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS AND OUR WAITING LISTS ARE GROWING.
IN THE COMMUNITY, AS YOU'LL SEE, WE DEVELOPED DOZENS OF
COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS AND

GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.
AND THAT HELPS US BUILD OUR JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS AND OUR
ABILITY TO HAVE OUR POPULATION CONNECT WITH THAT GREATER
COMMUNITY.
WE COLLABORATE WITH USF, THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA TO EDUCATE
THAT NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS, AND WE HOST SEMINARS TO
SUPPORT OUR PARENTS AND OUR FAMILIES AS THEY GUIDE THE VERY
COMPLICATED AND COMPLEX GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS THAT THEY HAVE TO
AND WILL RELY ON FOR MANY OF THEM THE REMAINDER OF THEIR
LIVES.
SOME OF THE GREATEST CONCERNS WE HEAR FROM OUR FAMILIES ARE
VERY SIMILAR.
WORKFORCE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN I'M NOT THERE AND
WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES PROJECT FOCUS VISION FOR THE FUTURE EVEN
MORE IMPORTANT.
IT'S WHY I JOINED THE CALL.
IT'S TO BUILD A COMMUNITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, A PLACE THAT
I HOPE MY NEPHEW RHETT COULD CALL HOME ONE DAY.
HERE ARE MORE AWESOME PARTNERSHIPS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT WHAT IS NEXT FOR PROJECT FOCUS, AND YOU HAVE A FOLDER IN
FRONT OF YOU THAT HAS THE RENDERINGS AS WELL.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET TOO HUNG UP ON THE BUILDINGS ITSELF
BUT THE VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IN THAT COMMUNITY IN THE VISION, IT INCLUDES HOUSING WITH

ACCESS TO AMENITIES AND SERVICES AND THE LARGER COMMUNITY,
PUBLIC BUS STOPS, GREENSPACE, WHAT YOU WOULD ENVISION FOR
YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS.
A WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER THAT HAS GROUND FLOOR ACTIVATION
OPPORTUNITIES WITH RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL PARTNERS, LIKE
FEEDING TAMPA BAY AND OTHERS WHERE WE CAN SET UP JOB
TRAINING SITES THAT SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THEIR
ACADEMIC CAREERS, BUT THEN ALSO MEET THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS,
WHETHER IT'S SOLVING A FOOD DESERT OR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL
VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION TRAINING.
THE FINAL PIECE IS A NEW PLACE FOR OUR FOCUS ACADEMY.
BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE AND FOCUS ON THE DRAMA THERAPY, WE
ALSO INCLUDE A COMMUNITY THEATER THAT WE HOPE TO BE
ACTIVATED WITH FELLOW NONPROFIT AND FOR-PROFIT PARTNERS.
IN CLOSING, PROJECT FOCUS, MY TEAM AND I, WE'RE WORKING HAND
IN HAND WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS TO BRING A
VISION, SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY MODEL TO LIFE HERE IN TAMPA.
AND I UNDERSTAND AND MY TEAM UNDERSTANDS THIS IS NO EASY
TASK.
IT'S NOT AN EASY LIFT, BUT WE ARE HERE TO GET IT DONE.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT TO BUILD A COMMUNITY, IT IS GOING TO
TAKE THE COMMUNITY BEHIND US.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO OUR CAMPUS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO
COME CHECK IT OUT BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY -- AS MY FOUNDER
SAYS, IT GIVES DISNEY A RUN FOR ITS MONEY.

WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ENTERTAIN ANY
QUESTIONS.
9:24:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU, CLAYTON FOR YOUR WORDS, PRESENTATION AND YOUR
TEAM HERE.
A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE WHO I KNOW WELL AND EVERYTHING.
I WANTED TO BRING YOU HERE BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
IS SOMETHING TOP OF MIND OF PARENTS RAISING PEOPLE WITH
SPECIAL NEEDS AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, WHICH IS WHERE
ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE?
I KNOW THAT WITH EXPERIENCE WITH MY BROTHER JUAN.
FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF BRANDON FOR SPECIAL NEEDS MINISTRY,
THEY WENT FOR A FEW YEARS, AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE
KIDS WHEN THEY GET OLDER?
MY DAD TOOK TWO YEARS OFF OF WORK AS A BUILDER AND HELPED
BUILD THE GROUP HOMES, WHERE MY BROTHER JUAN LIVES NOW.
THAT'S REALLY HARD TO DO.
WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IS GREAT.
I KNOW THIS IS A LONG-TERM VISION.
SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW OR NEXT YEAR.
BUT WITH THE HELP OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR, GOOD PEOPLE THAT
CARE AND CORE GOVERNMENT, THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE FAITH
THAT CAN HAPPEN FOR PEOPLE.
WE JUST STARTED SOMETHING I'VE WANTED TO DO FOR A LONG TIME,
SPECIAL NEEDS PARENT SUPPORT GROUP.

WE HAD OUR FIRST LIVE MEETING ON SATURDAY.
WE WANT TO HAVE YOU SPEAK AT ONE OF THEM AT CUP IN SOUTH
TAMPA.
WE HAVE LIKE 65 PEOPLE.
THE TOP THING ON THEIR MIND WAS HOUSING FOR THEIR CHILDREN,
JOBS FOR THEIR KIDS AS WELL.
AND DIFFERENT ISSUES LIKE THAT.
GROUP HOMES AND THINGS THAT THEY CAN TRUST.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS TOP OF MIND FOR THESE FOLKS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS.
IT MAY NOT BE THERE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES TOMORROW OR A YEAR
FROM NOW, BUT THIS WILL GIVE PEOPLE ENCOURAGEMENT THAT GOOD
PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF ARE WORKING HARD AND TRYING.
I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING IN EVERY WAY I CAN AND
JUST BEING SUPPORT TO YOU.
THANK YOU.
9:25:55AM >> THANK YOU.
I WOULD ADD THAT WE ARE EXCITED TO HOPEFULLY WORK WITH ALL
OF OUR LOCAL PARTNERS.
WE JUST GOT BACK FROM THE FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION
CONFERENCE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIES TO BE
PARTNERING WITH LOCAL NONPROFITS AND DEVELOPMENT TEAMS,
WHETHER BRINGING INFILL PROJECTS TO LIFE, LARGER PROJECTS
LIKE THIS.

CREATIVE WAYS TO USE THE LAND SO WE'RE NOT CONTINUING TO
BUILD TOO FAR OUT.
WE'D LOVE THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME AMENITIES
THAT WE'RE ABLE TO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IF WE CAN MOVE THAT NEEDLE IN THE DIRECTION AND PROVIDE A
CHOICE FOR FAMILIES THAT DOESN'T CURRENTLY EXIST, I THINK IT
COULD BE -- REALLY PUT TAMPA ON THE MAP FOR BEING KNOWN FOR
BEING THAT SUPPORT SYSTEM.
AND MANY, MANY FAMILIES ARE IMPACTED BY THIS CAUSE.
MANY FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES HAVE EXECUTIVES THAT HAVE FAMILY
MEMBERS IMPACTED BY AUTISM AND DISABILITIES.
THEY ARE THINKING, WHERE AM I GOING TO BE LONG TERM SO MY
FAMILY MEMBER HAS THE SUPPORT LONG TERM?
9:26:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
PRESENTATION.
MY STEP DAUGHTER -- I SHOULD STOP SAYING STEP DAUGHTER AND
SAY DAUGHTER.
13 YEARS OLD, SEVERELY AUTISTIC, IS ALWAYS GOING TO NEED
CARE.
WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION, MY WIFE AND I, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE
FUTURE.
PUT HER IN A GROUP HOME?
I WANT HER TO STAY WITH US.
BUT AS SHE GETS OLDER, IS SHE GOING TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES
LIKE THIS?

WHERE IS SHE GOING TO GO?
SHE WON'T BE HOME ALL THE TIME.
I WANT HER TO HAVE A LIFE OF FULFILLMENT AND A HAPPY LIFE
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO SEEING PROJECTS LIKE THIS ESPECIALLY HERE IN TAMPA,
BECAUSE MY LIFE LIVED IN PORT CHARLOTTE.
IT WAS A STRUGGLE TO GET TO THE SERVICES SHE NEEDED.
SHE HAD TO DRIVE TO SARASOTA.
SARASOTA WAS THE CLOSEST PLACE TO HER.
MOVING UP HERE, TAMPA IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS PART OF A LONG-TERM PLAN OF
CONTINUING TO EXPAND SERVICES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND FAMILIES
AND MAKING SURE THAT TAMPA IS ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY.
SOMEBODY ASKED ME THIS MORNING AT A COFFEE SHOP, DO YOU PLAN
TO BE HERE UNTIL YOU DIE?
I SAID, YEAH.
I EVEN HAVE MY CEMETERY PLOT PICKED OUT.
I SAID, YES, I PLAN TO BE HERE.
BORN, RAISED, EDUCATED, AND DEAD.
9:28:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HERE?
9:28:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOT IN THIS BUILDING.
[ LAUGHTER ]
THIS IS WONDERFUL.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THIS WITH MY WIFE WHEN I GET HOME
AT 4 IN THE MORNING TOMORROW AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING AND

TELLING HER ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING
AND WHAT YOUR TEAM AND ALL THE PEOPLE HERE.
THERE IS HOPE FOR THE FUTURE.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TOMORROW.
LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN TOMORROW BUT
WE KNOW THAT DOWN THE ROAD, THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND
CONTINUE EXPANDING AND SERVICING AND SERVING FAMILIES.
WE JUST WANT PEOPLE TO LIVE A HAPPY LIFE LIKE EVERYBODY
ELSE.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS VERY IMPRESSIVE.
WHATEVER I CAN DO TO SUPPORT YOU, THIS IS VERY EXCITING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:28:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
9:29:02AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN LOTS OF
WAYS IN THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU HAVEN'T, PLEASE TALK TO MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, DAWSEY.
SHE IS CONNECTED TO THE MOMS GROUP IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT HAVE
KIDS THAT MEET THIS CRITERIA.
SHE'S VERY CONNECTED TO ALL OF THEM.
JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S DAD VOLUNTEERING TIME,
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN VOLUNTEER TIME AND MONEY.
YOU CAN GET MONEY FROM BIG ORGANIZATIONS BUT THERE'S SO MUCH

GRASSROOTS OF FAMILIES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE KIDS WITH SPECIAL
NEEDS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RALLY THE COMMUNITY
AROUND IT.
DID YOU SAY THE PRICE OF THIS -- I KNOW IT WILL CHANGE
BECAUSE IT IS A VISION, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE
PRICE IS?
IS THERE A WEBSITE PEOPLE CAN SUPPORT IT?
9:29:48AM >> WEBSITE IS PROJECT FOCUS FOUNDATION.ORG.
THE COST ON IT IS ESTIMATED BETWEEN 60 AND $70 MILLION FOR
THE TOTAL COMMUNITY.
THAT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND IS BASED OFF OF THE RENDERING.
THE HOUSING COMPONENT COULD CHANGE, THE FLOORS COULD CHANGE.
DENSITY COULD CHANGE.
REALLY, THE GOAL IS TO CREATE THAT ALL-ENCOMPASSING
COMMUNITY MODEL WHERE YOU HAVE HOUSING WITHIN WALKABLE
SERVICES, WITHIN WALKABLE RETAIL, WITHIN OPPORTUNITY AND
PURPOSE.
9:30:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I ECHO WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID.
I THINK THIS IS PHENOMENAL.
FOR ME IN PARTICULAR I REALLY LOVE THE FOCUS HAVING THE
EDUCATION THERE AS A FORMER TEACHER MYSELF WHO REALLY TENDED
TO WORK WITH STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
QUITE A FEW OF THE STUDENTS I WORKED WITH WERE AUTISTIC, BUT
KNOWING THAT FOLKS HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO BUT IT'S ON A CAMPUS

THAT PROTECTS STUDENTS.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO FAR FOR THE SERVICES.
WE'RE SEEING THAT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.
THIS IS KIND OF JUST WHAT WE NEED.
MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE LAND FOR THIS?
9:31:01AM >> WE DON'T HAVE LAND.
THE RENDERING IS BASED OFF OF A SURFACE LOT THAT I PASS
EVERY DAY ON THE WAY TO THE CURRENT CAMPUS.
WE HAVE REACHED OUT VIGOROUSLY AND CONTINUE TO PUSH.
IT IS IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
WE ENVISION THAT THIS COMMUNITY WOULD COMPLEMENT A
NEIGHBORHOOD, BRINGING JOBS, BRINGING POTENTIALLY SOLVING A
FOOD DESERT CRISIS.
MEETING THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY NEED IT.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT WHEREVER WE DO END UP THERE IS NO
DISPLACEMENT FOR ANY LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
THAT SURFACE LOT IS SOUTH OF THE DOG TRACK, BEHIND TAMPA
HEALTH CENTERS.
9:31:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHERE IS YOUR CURRENT LOCATION?
9:31:37AM >> CURRENTLY LOCATED IN TEMPLE TERRACE.
HOWEVER, WE SERVICE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
MAJORITY OF STUDENTS ARE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CITY OF TAMPA.
WE DO HAVE A FEW FAMILIES THAT TRAVEL FROM OUTSIDE OF THE
COUNTY BECAUSE THAT IS HOW FAR THEY ARE WILLING TO GO FOR
THEIR CHILDREN.

9:31:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS VISION TO US.
9:31:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:32:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING SOMEONE, ALL OF THEM A HAND
UP, INSTEAD OF A HAND DOWN, PUSH DOWN.
THAT SHOWS THE CHARACTER OF YOURSELF AND THE TEAM THAT WANTS
TO HELP EVERYONE THAT HAS THIS UNFORTUNATE THING.
ALONG WITH THAT, MAYBE SOME DEVELOPERS ARE LISTENING TO THE
DEBATE THIS MORNING, CONVERSATION, I SHOULD SAY.
MAYBE THEY COULD COME IN AND DO THEIR PART AND MAYBE HELP
BUILD SOMETHING FOR A COST SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE AN UPSWING
IN LIFE INSTEAD OF A PUSH-DOWN.
THANK YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION.
9:32:32AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
9:32:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. CLEMENS, I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING
THAT INSTEAD OF CLAYTON BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN YOU SO LONG AS A
FRIEND.
I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING INVITED UP NOT TOO LONG AGO TO
THE CAMPUS AND SEEING THE SERVICES AND TALKING WITH THE
STAFF.
I ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW COUNCILPERSONS, IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN
UP THAT OPPORTUNITY, IT'S WORTHY OF GOING UP THERE.
IT'S INTERESTING, WATCHING THIS, SO INSPIRING IN WHAT YOU'RE
ATTEMPTING TO DO.

SOME WAYS IT MAKES ME SO ANGRY THAT IN 2025, IN A JUST AND
RELATIVELY WEALTHY COUNTRY, THAT WE'RE STILL NOT PROVIDING
THE SERVICES FOR ALL CITIZENS ACROSS THE SOCIOECONOMIC AND
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE CHALLENGED IN DISABILITIES, THAT WE
REALLY SHOULD BE STEPPING UP AND PROVIDING THESE TYPES OF
PROGRAMS FOR FOLKS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A FAMILY OUT THERE NOT TOUCHED IN
SOME WAY BY SOMEONE WHO HAS SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ISSUE
OR DISABILITY THAT CAN BE ASSISTED IN THESE TYPES OF
PROGRAMS.
THESE TYPES OF THINGS, I REALLY APPLAUD YOU.
I WOULD NEVER THOUGHT WHEN WE FIRST MET THIS WOULD BE
SOMETHING.
REALLY BEEN SUCH A GREAT ADVOCATE FOR.
YOU'VE TAKEN YOUR AMAZING TALENT AND SEIZED SUCH AN
IMPORTANT PROGRAM TO PURSUE AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE THIS
THROUGH AND WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO
YOUR INITIAL VISION TO SERVICE ALL THE CITIZENS OF
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:34:00AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMEN.
9:34:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF I MAY, POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE END OF THE LAST MEETING, AND
NOT EVERYBODY IS WATCHING AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF ANDY HUGHES.
YOU HAD MENTIONED IT.
WE HAD JUST BEEN NOTIFIED.
AS A HISTORIAN, AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, I WANT TO
OFFER MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.
IT'S ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA.
HE'S TOUCHED SO MANY INSTITUTIONS, FROM USF TO THE TAMPA
THEATRE TO THE COLUMBIA TO SOMEBODY THAT EMBODIED AND LOVED
TAMPA HISTORY.
I WANT TO LET THE FAMILY KNOW WE ARE THINKING OF THEM.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
9:34:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN THE E-MAIL THIS MORNING, I SENT WHAT I
PROPOSED I'LL DO FOR NEW BUSINESS TODAY TO ADDRESS WHAT'S
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE F.D.O.T. MEMO.
IF YOU ALL WOULD TAKE A MOMENT SOMETIME TODAY TO LOOK
THROUGH THAT SO WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION DURING NEW BUSINESS.
BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. SHELBY.
9:35:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, HERE
TO TALK ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT
FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY

AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON THE
ITEM.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS, PROVIDING
PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT
A SPEAKER CARD AND PLACE IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE
COMMISSION -- THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WOULD BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME BY
THE CHAIR TO APPROACH AND SPEAK.
AS I SAID, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM SET ON THE AGENDA AS A
PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE DON'T FILL OUT A CARD.
INSTEAD SIGN IN ON THE SIGN-IN SHEET AT THE PODIUM OUTSIDE.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL RULES MAY

ALSO BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE
CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF
THE DAY'S MEETING.
NOW, IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE
CONSENT DOCKET, THE TIME TO SPEAK NOW IS AT THE GENERAL
PUBLIC COMMENT, SAME WITH STAFF REPORTS.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE
THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
THANK YOU.
9:37:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER REGISTERED ONLINE.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
MICHAEL, ARE YOU ON?
9:37:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
TODAY I COME REPRESENTING THE CENTER FOR NONPROFIT COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT.
AN ENTITY THAT REPRESENT NONPROFITS THROUGHOUT THE NATION.
OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BUT EMERGING
YOUNG LEADERS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND EAST TAMPA.
THEY WANT A POWERFUL, CONSISTENT MESSAGE.
DEEP DESIRE TO BECOME CHANGE AGENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THESE YOUNG VOICES -- ASKING PERMISSION, THEY ARE READY TO
LEAD.
EAST TAMPA AND SULPHUR SPRINGS MAY BE AMONG THE POOREST
COMMUNITIES IN TAMPA.
THEY ARE HOME TO SOME OF THE BRIGHTEST, SMARTEST PEOPLE I'VE
MET.
THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE RICH IN POTENTIAL AND ESPECIALLY
AMONG THE YOUNG POPULATION.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROVIDING A TRANSFORMATIVE TRAINING TO THE
YOUNG LEADERS.
IT ISN'T AN OPTION.
IT'S ESSENTIAL.
UNLIKE THE NONPROFIT LEADERSHIP CENTER IN TAMPA BAY, WHICH
USES A TOP-BOTTOM APPROACH, OUR APPROACH BUILDS CHANGE
AGENTS FROM THE GROUNDS UP.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CULTIVATING POWER.
A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERS, FROM THE BLACK, FOR THE BLACK.
OVER THE NEXT 12 WEEKS, THEY WILL ENGAGE IN HANDS-ON
TRAINING, DESIGNED REAL-WORLD CHANGE.
THE CURRICULUM COVERS HOUSING, ORGANIZING, ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE EMPOWERMENT AND
STRATEGIC DEAL MAKING.
THE GOAL ISN'T JUST TO JOIN THE SYSTEM.
IT'S TO BUILD A NEW ONE LED BY THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.
THE PROGRAM DOESN'T PREPARE LEADERS TO JOIN A NEW LED BY THE

COMMUNITY ITSELF.
THIS PROGRAM DOESN'T -- JOIN THE TABLE IT EQUIPS THEM TO
BUILD A TABLE.
IT ISN'T ABOUT CHANGE OF EXISTING SYSTEM.
IT'S ABOUT BUILDING A NEW ONE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CREATES
THE TABLE, CREATES THE AGENDA, AND LEADS THE TRANSFORMATION.
THANK YOU.
SULPHUR SPRINGS AND EAST TAMPA AND NEW LEADERS COMING UP,
THANK YOU.
9:39:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
FIRST SPEAKER IS SURGRET DOSS FOLLOWED BY JASON MARLOW.
9:40:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I WASN'T EXPECTING TO BE FIRST, BUT I APPRECIATE THE HONOR.
WE'LL JUST WING THIS FOR WHAT IT IS.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I WAS HERE AND
WE TALKED -- SURGRET DOSS.
YOU ALREADY SAID MY NAME.
IDEA TO MAKE THE DEADLINE, MY APPENDIX FOR THE APPEAL.
USE A UNIQUE WORD, AND PEOPLE ARE UP IN ARMS.
EVEN ON THE INTERNET I GET TROLLED BY PEOPLE WHO WERE A
LITTLE BIT TAKEN ABACK BY ME USING A PARTICULAR PHRASE,
WHICH THE BARREL HAD ON IT.
CRACKER BARREL AND PEOPLE LOSE THEIR MINDS.
I WAS WONDERING IF I WAS RIGHT OR WRONG.
THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW THESE THINGS OPEN UP WITH SOME SORT

OF PRAYER OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
WHAT BAFFLES ME, PARTICULARLY IN TAMPA ABOUT THAT, I'M NOT
HERE TO JUDGE WHAT ANYBODY'S RELIGIOUS PREFERENCE MAY OR MAY
NOT BE.
I'M PRETTY CONVINCED THAT IF THE INDIVIDUAL SO MANY PEOPLE
HERE CLAIM TO FOLLOW, YOU WOULD MISS AGAIN.
WE KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE.
I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW HOW ROGUE YOU HAVE TO BE TO STEAL
JESUS, CHANGE HIS NAME, PUSH IT UPON PEOPLE AND SOME REASON
NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE STAND UP TO THE OBVIOUS MISTRUTHS THAT
HAVE BEEN TOLD FOR YEARS.
IF I OFFEND PEOPLE, I PROBABLY MEAN TO.
TAKE IT PERSONALLY IF IT FITS.
I'M NOT JUST SPEAKING ABOUT THE RACIST WHITE PEOPLE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT EVEN SOME OF YOU ALL WHO KNOW WHAT'S GOING
ON AND SAY NOTHING.
WHETHER YOU ARE A SAMBO --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:42:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SORRY, I WOULD ASK YOU, IF YOU COULD
JUST NOT USE THE INFLAMMATORY TYPE OF RACIAL.
I DON'T THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO NORMALIZE THAT TYPE OF
LANGUAGE.
9:42:16AM >> THAT'S INTERESTING IN THIS COUNTRY.
9:42:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN THIS COUNCIL, THIS MEETING, I DON'T
THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO NORMALIZE THAT.

IT'S HURTFUL TO PEOPLE.
I SEE OLDER PEOPLE THAT HAVE FOUGHT AGAINST THESE TYPES OF
WORDS THAT HURT PEOPLE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION ON THESE THINGS, BUT IF YOU COULD
CHOOSE YOUR WORDS.
9:42:35AM >> MORE ARTICULATE IN THE FACE OF INARTICULATENESS THAT'S
BEEN SHOWN BY THIS CITY.
THE GUY YOU REHIRED -- GIVE ME MY MINUTE BACK -- THE GUY YOU
REHIRED FALSELY ACCUSED OF ME OF PERJURY.
YOU REHIRED HIM.
THE SECOND ONE UP HERE THAT IS AN ATTORNEY.
THIS IS NOT A HALLOWEEN COSTUME.
IF YOU GOOGLE ME, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE COME UP.
THE SECOND THING IN THE PUBLIC RECORD ABOUT ME.
PERSON WHO WASN'T WILLING TO FIGHT, I HAVE NO ISSUE IF YOU
DID OR DIDN'T, WASN'T WILLING TO GIVE THIS COUNTRY A CHECK
UP TO YOUR LIFE, I THINK IT'S KIND OF INSULTING TO TALK
ABOUT FREE SPEECH.
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT.
I THINK YOU MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT A LEGAL ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
THE REALITY IS, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO WRONG AND
YOU ALL SAY NOTHING ABOUT IT.
WE DO NEED MORE UNCLE TOMS, ANOTHER MISNOMER AND LESS OF THE

OTHER PEOPLE.
SHOUT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL,
GREATEST INSTITUTION OF LEARNING IN THIS CITY.
9:43:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
AGAIN.
I DON'T IMPEDE YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
MR. MARLOW.
9:44:04AM >> JASON MARLOW.
I DID NOT FEEL LIKE BEING HERE TODAY, BUT TALLAHASSEE IS
FOUR HOURS AWAY.
F.D.O.T., MY LEGISLATORS, AND THE GOVERNOR ARE NOT ALL
ASSEMBLED FOR ME TO ADMONISH THEM SO I AM HERE INSTEAD.
TAKE THE MOMENT TO MENTION THAT I AND STUFF IN MY FRIDGE ARE
OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN TALLAHASSEE PRETENDED TO CARE
ABOUT LOCAL AUTONOMY OR HOME RULE.
SOMEHOW THE PARTY OF SMALL GOVERNMENT SOMEHOW BIG ENOUGH TO
COME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND PAINT OVER MURALS AND
CROSSWALKS THAT MAKE IT SAFER FOR FAMILIES TO GO TO AND FROM
SCHOOL.
THE SCIENCE AND STATISTICS ARE CLEAR.
CREATIVE CROSSWALKS REDUCE COLLISIONS.
ONE OF THE CROSSWALKS THAT WAS OR WILL BE UNCEREMONIOUSLY
PAINTED OVER HAS LIKELY ALREADY SAVED A LIFE OVER ITS
HISTORY.
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IN A REGION THAT IS ONE OF THE NATION'S

DEADLIEST PLACES TO TRAVERSE SHOULD BE OUR PRIORITY.
THE CROSSWALK COLORS DON'T BITE.
THEY MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER.
I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ITS EFFORTS TO IMPROVE
THIS ISSUE, BUT I AM HERE THIS MORNING TO ENCOURAGE THIS
ADMINISTRATION AND CITY COUNCIL TO SEEK ALL POSSIBLE LEGAL
RECOURSE TO COMBAT TALLAHASSEE'S UNPROVOKED ACTS OF
REGRESSION AND SEEK CREATIVE MEANS TO CONTINUE INVESTING IN
MAKING TAMPA SAFER FOR EVERYONE TO GET AROUND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. MARLOW.
MICHELLE -- I'LL MURDER YOUR LAST NAME.
MASTROTOTARO.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
THE NEXT SPEAKER, BOBBY CREIGHTON.
9:45:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
9:45:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, MICHELLE.
9:45:34AM >> I HAVE A PAPER.
9:46:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
I AM HANDING OUT WHAT I FEEL WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
I AM FOLLOWING UP ON AUGUST 11 NIGHT MEETING THAT MR.
MIRANDA WAS VERY CONCERNED, AND HE WANTED TO PASS A MOTION.
I'M JUST FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT?

I AM FOLLOWING UP ON OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION REGARDING THE
WETLANDS AND PROTECTED MANGROVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AT THE LAST MEETING, MR. MIRANDA RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE
UPROOTING OF PROTECTED MANGROVES FOR THE PURPOSE OF
OBTAINING INCENTIVES AND PROPOSED MOTIONS TO ADDRESS THE
ISSUE.
I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT APPROXIMATELY 23 ACRES MIXED
WITH WETLAND AND MANGROVES WERE REMOVED, WHICH CONSTITUTES A
VIOLATION OF THE YELLOW LINE LAND RESTRICTIONS ESTABLISHED
DUE TO THE AREA'S HISTORIC VALUE.
AS YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DESIGNATED DISTRICT ARE
SUBJECT TO STRICT GUIDELINES REGARDING BUILDING HEIGHT,
DESIGN, MATERIALS, SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPING, AND ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION.
THESE REGULATIONS ARE PLACED TO PRESERVE THE DISTRICT'S
CHARACTER, MITIGATE FLOODING, PROTECT SURROUNDING
RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES DESPITE THE SAFE DEVELOPMENT IN
QUESTION PROCEEDED IN THE MANNER AND DISREGARDED MULTIPLE
REQUIREMENTS.
THE LAND WAS ORIGINALLY AN AE FLOOD ZONE.
NOW IT'S AN X FLOOD ZONE IN RESTRICTED AREA WHEN EVERYBODY
ELSE IS GRANDFATHERED IN AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, THIS WAS BUILT
15 FEET UP, BLOCKED ALL THE UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS THAT USED
TO TAKE ON OUR WETLANDS AND THE MANGROVES TO FLUSH OUT BACK
TO THE BAY, IT'S GONE NOW, AND THEY WERE ALLOWED TO.

THE APPROVED DESIGN SHOWED GREENSPACE, IF YOU LOOK IN THE
PICTURE, THE FIRST PICTURE.
IT SHOWED A VERY PRESENTED FAIR APARTMENTS.
IF YOU LOOK PAGE 3, IT SHOWS WHAT EXACTLY WAS DONE WITH ONE
RETENTION POND IN THE BACK.
THE FIRST ONE SHOWS MANY PONDS.
THIS DEVELOPMENT NOT ONLY DISREGARDS ENVIRONMENTAL AND
HISTORIC SAFEGUARDS, BUT ALSO THREATENS THE INTEGRITY OF
NEIGHBORING HOMES.
MANY OF WHICH, LIKE MINE, BUILT IN 1918 ARE PART OF A
COMMUNITY HISTORIC FABRIC.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT MR. MIRANDA'S --
9:49:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHELLE.
TIME IS UP.
SORRY.
BOBBY CREIGHTON FOLLOWED BY TARAH BLUMA.
BOBBY, FOLLOWED BY TARAH.
9:49:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
BOBBY CREIGHTON.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 66.
HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAD WITH
THAT EARLIER THIS MORNING WITH MS. SCHARF REGARDING THE
OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
SO THAT'S BEEN CLEARED UP IN MY MIND.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS, THOUGH, WITHIN THE

UPDATED ORDINANCE THAT I THINK ARE A LITTLE UNUSUAL.
ONE IS THAT THERE'S REFERENCE TO AN EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR HOW
LIEN SETTLEMENTS SHOULD BE PROCESSED.
I COULDN'T FIND ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY CODE THAT
REFERENCES A SPECIFIC EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR HOW POLICY SHOULD
BE ENACTED.
SEEMED LITTLE UNUSUAL TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT INSERTED
INTO THE CODE WHEN IT SHOULD BE IN MY MIND SPELLED OUT AS A
POLICY SO IT CAN BE AMENDED BY THE POLICY MAKERS AND THE
POLICY ADJUSTORS, WHICH IS THIS BODY.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF THAT COMES UP FOR
DISCUSSION TODAY, THAT THOSE POLICIES GET SPELLED OUT.
THEY ARE INSERTED INTO THE CODE AND THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER
THAT WILL HAVE NO REASON TO EXIST.
THE OTHER ITEM WAS THE INCREASED FINES FOR KNOWING AND
WILLFUL DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES.
20% OF THE PROPERTY VALUE BEFORE THE STRUCTURE COMES DOWN.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE HIGHER ONCE A HISTORIC STRUCTURE IS
DEMOLISHED, IT'S NOT COMING BACK.
THAT IS THE HERITAGE OF THE CITY.
WHAT MAKES TAMPA, TAMPA.
AND NEED TO BE PRESERVING THOSE PLACES AND SET PROPORTIONATE
PENALTIES FOR PEOPLE WHO WILLINGLY DESTROY THEM.
THE REPEAT VIOLATOR DEFINITION, THEY ARE UPDATING THAT TO
ALIGN WITH STATE STATUTE.

EVERY SINGLE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE
BIGGEST CITIES IN THE STATE AND IN THOSE COUNTIES WHERE
THOSE CITIES ARE LOCATED USE THIS STATUTE.
IT'S JUST THE COMMON PRACTICE IN CODE.
FINALLY UPDATING THAT.
THE ONLY REASON IT'S DIFFERENT IN TAMPA IS AN ACCIDENT OF
HISTORY.
I SUPPORT THAT.
I THINK THAT ABOUT COVERS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STUFF.
I WON'T BE ABLE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO SPEAK ON THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOPIC, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT
NOW.
I HEAR A LOT AT THE MEETINGS AT CITY COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC
COMMENT ABOUT THE NEED FOR DENSITY IN EAST TAMPA.
THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO CAME LAST WEEK AND DESCRIBED HOW
HE WAS TRYING TO CREATE A GROCERY STORE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT BECAUSE THERE WAS A LACK OF THE CLIENTELE, WASN'T THE
DENSITY TO SUPPORT IT, WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THE BUSINESSES
AND USES THAT EAST TAMPA DESERVES INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO I WOULD CAUTION DON'T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE
BATHWATER.
THERE ARE PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE IT'S SENSIBLE NOT TO
DEVELOP.
PLACES PRONE TO FLOODING WHERE PEOPLE'S LIVES MIGHT BE AT
RISK.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT NEED THE DENSITY
IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GROW AND THRIVE.
WE HEAR THIS PHRASE SMART DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S A CAREFUL TIGHTROPE TO WALK.
IT IS A BALANCING ACT, I KNOW.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON HOW TO WALK THAT
CAREFULLY SO THAT EVERYWHERE CAN THRIVE.
THANK YOU.
9:52:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
TARAH BLUMA, FOLLOWED BY PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:52:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
TARAH BLUMA.
I'M GOING TO KEEP ON THAT CONVERSATION TOPIC THAT ONE SIZE
FITS ALL SOLUTIONS RARELY WORK.
LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN.
NUMBER 69.
I AM TIRED OF REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS.
THEY KEEP BLOWING THROUGH THE MONEY, IRRESPONSIBLY.
NOT NECESSARILY IN THE AMOUNTS THEY SAID THEY WOULD SPEND ON
PARTICULAR ITEMS.
LOOK AT HOW MANY TIMES IN THE PRESENTATION THEY SAID THAT
THEY WERE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON FIRE.
SEE HOW MUCH MONEY THEY ACTUALLY SPENT ON FIRE.
YET MONEY SPENT AND ALLOCATED.

WITH THAT, I WOULD NOT APPROVE THAT IN A LARGE LIST FORMAT
AGAIN.
LET THEM ASK FOR A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION PER ITEM THAT
THEY WANT AND THEN LIMIT THEM TO THAT AMOUNT AND NOT LET
THEM RAID THE PIGGY BANK FOR OTHER PROJECTS THEY MIGHT LIKE
MORE.
I AM 100% AGAINST THE ASHLEY PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S VIA CRA
MONEY OR CITY MONEY, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS A WANT, NOT A NEED.
NUMBER 38, THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR AWARD TO NAACP, THAT
IS NOT A DONATION.
IT IS AN AGREEMENT FOR SERVICES.
AND THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO A PERFORMANCE REPORT OF THE
LAST HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR THAT THEY RECEIVED.
I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND THAT PERFORMANCE REPORT ANYWHERE.
IF IT HASN'T BEEN PRESENTED, I THINK IT'S BEST PRACTICE WHEN
YOU'RE MAKING AN AGREEMENT FOR SERVICES THAT YOU FOLLOW UP
TO SEE IF THOSE SERVICES WERE PERFORMED.
AND IF IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, LET'S PUT THAT IN THE AGENDA
AND MAKE THAT READILY AVAILABLE.
ON NUMBER 41, I AM NOT AWARE -- WASN'T ABLE TO FIND OUT IF
THAT MONEY FOR YBOR BLOCK BY BLOCK IS COMING OUT OF THE CRA,
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD.
AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE MORE TRANSPARENCY ON THE AGENDA TO SEE
WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING OUT OF.

FINALLY, ON THE PARKS LIGHTING, I HAD TO DIG AND ASK LOTS OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE.
I THINK THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT WITHIN 180 DAYS OF THE
RESOLUTION THAT YOU APPROVED IN 2024, THAT THEY WOULD
PROVIDE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR ALL EIGHT OF THE PARKS.
TODAY, YOU'RE ONLY SEEING THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THREE
OF THEM.
LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE OTHER FIVE WERE.
LET'S GET THAT PRESENTED SO WE KNOW IF THEY ARE IN BUDGET OR
WILL NOT BUDGET OUT OF THE WATER AS WELL.
9:55:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PASTOR WILLIAMS.
GOOD MORNING.
NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ASHLEY MORROW.
9:55:46AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS, LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT
STREET, USED TO BE.
TOOK MY CHURCH AND GAVE IT TO SOME WHITE PEOPLE.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK -- THAT YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA, I'M HERE
TO SPEAK ABOUT BELMONT HEIGHTS AND JACKSONVILLE -- JACKSON
HEIGHTS.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE TO US, PEOPLE OF COLOR, TAKING OUR
LAND AND PUTTING SWAMP HOLES IN THERE, WHICH IS NOT RIGHT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, I CAN'T WAIT -- SCOTT THOMAS GET
THAT.
HE'S GOING TO GET THERE, HE TOLD ME -- HOPING THAT WHEN HE
GET THERE, HE DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR PEOPLE AND UNDERSTAND THAT

WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE HIM AND THE YOUNG MAN THAT JUST GOT
THROUGH SPEAKING.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF PROBLEMS.
YESTERDAY, SOMEBODY WENT AND KILLED SOME INNOCENT YOUNG
PEOPLE IN SCHOOL.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
YOU GOT TIME TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHY DON'T YOU TRY TO
HELP PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP ONE ANOTHER.
THAT'S WHAT THE LORD TOLD US TO DO, HELP ONE ANOTHER.
WE DON'T WANT TO HELP CERTAIN PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF
COLOR.
GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE GOD PUT US HERE.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO GIVE GOD ALL THE GLORY.
I DON'T WANT NO PAT ON THE BACK.
I WANT YOU TO GIVE GOD ALL THE GLORY.
TRY TO HELP ONE ANOTHER.
DO THE RIGHT THING.
DO THE RIGHT THING SO WHEN PASTOR THOMAS SCOTT GET THERE,
WHICH HE'LL GET THERE, HE'LL HAVE A HANDFUL.
FILLING THOSE RETENTION PONDS, CITY DUG HOLES AND TAKE OUR
LAND.
GIVE US OUR LAND BACK.
LET US BUILD A HOUSE THAT WE WANT TO BUILD ON AND NOT TO PUT
WHAT THEY WANT DONE.

BUILD TWO-THIRDS.
THIRDS, BUILD THREE STORIES.
ONE STORY, REGARDLESS.
DO WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR
EVERYBODY.
I GUARANTEE YOU, GOD WILL BLESS ALL OF YOU.
THANK YOU FOR MY COMMENTS.
9:58:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, PASTOR.
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
ASHLEY MORROW, FOLLOWED BY JAMES.
9:58:54AM >> HELLO.
ASHLEY MORROW.
I'LL BE SHARING BLACK HISTORY.
WE OFTEN THINK ABOUT THE DOOR OF NO RETURN IN GHANA, THE
PLACE MR. SLAVES WERE FORCED TO SHIPS FOR PASSAGE.
TAMPA CARRIES ITS OWN VERSION OF THAT HISTORY.
WHEN THE NEGRO FORT WAS DESTROYED IN 1816 AND ANDREW JACKSON
DID THE TREK ACROSS NORTHERN FLORIDA 1818, AS WELL AS THE
TREATY BEING CREATED.
THAT SWITCHED THE TERRITORY FROM THE SPANISH TO U.S.
TERRITORY.
THEN YOU HAVE THE MOULTRIE CREEK TREATY.
FORT BROOKE CREATED THE NEXT YEAR, 1824.
ANDREW JACKSON COMES FOUR YEARS LATER.
ENACTS INDIAN REMOVAL ACT OF 1830 WHICH RULED THAT THE

SEMINOLES AND BLACK SEMINOLES NEEDED TO COME THROUGH TAMPA,
GO TO THE PORT IN LOUISIANA, NEW ORLEANS, FORT PIKE AND UP
TO OKLAHOMA TO THE RESERVATION.
THE YEAR AFTER THAT, JOHN WINSLETT COMES TO TAMPA AND WARNED
HE SHOULD NOT GO LOOKING PAST TAMPA, DANGEROUS OUTSIDE THE
BORDERS.
LOOKING FOR A BLACK RUNAWAY SLAVE FROM GEORGIA.
DADE MASSACRE.
FROM FORT BROOKE UP TO FORT KING, OCALA AREA.
THEY ARE MASSACRED, ALL BUT TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.
THAT HAPPENED IN 1835.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY WEREN'T GOING TO LEAD A HORDE OF BLACK
SEMINOLES AND SEMINOLES BACK THROUGH FLORIDA.
A LOT OF HISTORY BOOKS I LOOKED UP, YOU SEE THIS ARROW
COMING FROM TAMPA UP TO LOUISIANA.
WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, I REMEMBER THEM TALKING ABOUT THE
TRAIL OF TEARS.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS A LONG WALK.
BUT THE SEMINOLES CAME THROUGH THIS PLACE, FORT BROOKE.
THAT WAS NOT TAUGHT TO ME IN SCHOOL.
I THINK THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS A PHOTO THAT'S VERY FAMILIAR.
1837.
A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON HERE AROUND THAT TIME.
IMMIGRATION CAMP.

TAMPA WAS AN IMMIGRATION CAMP.
GENERAL JESSUP, WRITES A LETTER.
THE INDIAN NEGRO ALARMED BY THEIR RIVAL IN CAMP OF
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR SLAVES DURING THE WAR, MOST
OF THEM HAVE FLED.
THE SEMINOLES DID NOT WANT TO LEAVE UNLESS THEIR BROTHERS
COULD COME WITH THEM, THE BLACK SEMINOLES.
SO THEY MADE THE DEAL.
NAMES RECORDED ON THE DOCUMENTS.
THESE ARE THEIR NAMES.
THESE ARE THEIR NAMES.
THERE'S MORE, SORRY.
THESE ARE BLACK SEMINOLES.
AND THEY WERE TAKEN TO FORT PIKE AND SOME RESOLD BACK INTO
SLAVERY.
THESE ARE THEIR NAMES.
THESE ARE THEIR NAMES, AND THESE ARE THEIR NAMES.
TWO MORE.
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
10:02:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
I REALLY ENJOY YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:02:04AM >> I'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.
10:02:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JAMES ADAIR FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN
BENNETT.

MR. INTERNET YouTube STAR, JAMES ADAIR.
10:02:43AM >> WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY EXCITING STUFF GOING ON.
LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW DO -- JAMES
ADAIR.
THE AGENT WHO CARES OUT OF SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY.
WE SPOKE ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO IF PEOPLE ARE BLOWING LEAFS
INTO THE DRAINS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE WATCH THESE THINGS BUT I GOT A CALL
FROM A NEIGHBOR OFF ROME, HEY, THIS GUY IS DUMPING POOL
DEBRIS INTO A DRAIN.
I GUESS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
WE WORKED WITH THE CITY.
CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY DID GO OUT.
THEY VERIFIED, DID ISSUE A CITATION.
THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
AND FOLLOWED UP AND FOUND OUT THAT IT ALL ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
THAT WAS GOOD.
ONE, MAYBE WE CAN MARKET THAT.
GET BACK TO MY NOTES.
SO I HAD MANY BUT YOU HAVE ANSWERED THEM ALONG THE WAY.
VERY HELPFUL.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF AWESOME OTHER IDEAS FOR YOU.
STORMWATER STILL A BIG DEAL.
I KNOW IT IS A LITTLE BIT FATIGUING FOR PROBABLY PEOPLE WHO
WORK IN THAT DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY BEING SIX DAYS.

BUT I THOUGHT THAT THE LOUDEST ADVOCATES PROBABLY NEED TO
HAVE THE BEST INFORMATION.
SO THAT WHEN WE TAKE PODIUM TIME, IT'S INFORMED INSTEAD OF
OPINIONATED AND UNEDUCATED.
WHY NOT DO AN INTENSIVE.
A THREE-DAY, KIND OF LIKE A LEADERSHIP TAMPA BAY BUT ALL
ABOUT THE STORMWATER.
15 PEOPLE, MAYBE ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, ONE PERSON FROM
THE PRESS THAT DIVES DEEP IN EACH OF THE PARTICULAR AREAS.
ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SUBSEQUENT PAGES, JUST FOR
THE RECORD, SCREEN SHOT.
ANOTHER ONE.
ESSENTIALLY, WE'VE HAD ENGINEERING CONVERSATIONS, HOW DO
THESE THINGS GET PASSED.
BASICALLY THE ARGUMENT GOES BETWEEN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT
AND ACTUAL STORMWATER ENGINEERING, WE NEED TO HAVE TIME WITH
EACH OF THOSE TO EXPLAIN THINGS LIKE GREENSPACE, PERMEABLE
MATERIAL, STUFF LIKE THAT.
MICHELLE'S ISSUE PARTICULARLY, WE GET EXCITED ABOUT IT.
VERY LARGE PROJECT.
WHEN YOU PULL UP THE DEVELOPMENT MAP OR THE SURVEY FOR IT, I
CAN'T MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF WHAT IS OR ISN'T A MANGROVE,
FOR EXAMPLE.
WE NEED PEOPLE EDUCATED IN THAT TO GIVE US THE PLAY-BY-PLAY.
I KNOW STORMWATER HAS DONE A TON OF TOWN HALLS.

BUT SITTING THROUGH MANY OF THOSE, SOME OF THE SAME
QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE NEED A WHODUNIT.
WE NEED EDUCATION.
STEPHANIE BROUGHT UP STAFFING ISSUES.
WHY ON THE LIST DOES IT LOOK LIKE THIS WHEN WE SAY WE ONLY
HAVE 64.
PROBABLY EASILY EXPLAINED.
IF WE HAD TIME TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE PRESENTATIONS, LIKE WHAT
IS OUTLINED HERE, WE DIVE DEEP IN SOME OF THE BIGGEST THINGS
AND REALLY START MAKING DIFFERENCES IN AREAS THAT ACTUALLY
MATTER.
I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, PEOPLE
ABLE TO DIVE IN.
I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IF WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
OBVIOUSLY, CONNECT WITH YOU ON THIS, AND THEN ALSO SMOOTH
JOSH.
I WILL SAY THIS, HURRY, HERBIE.
SO HELPFUL.
GETTING IT DONE.
ITEM 74 IS THAT STILL HAPPENING?
10:05:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAFF IS LISTENING.
SOMEBODY WILL BITE ON THIS.
10:05:58AM >> DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR ITEM 74 IN THE AUDIENCE?

10:06:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY -- DID
STEVE MICHELINI LEAVE?
I THINK HE LEFT.
IS HE STILL THERE?
THERE HE IS.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY STEVE MICHELINI.
10:06:23AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
THE STAFF SAID THAT THE CURRENT COMP PLAN, LAND USE PLAN CAN
ACCOMMODATE THE 74,000 PEOPLE OR 32,000 MORE UNITS WE NEED
BY 2045.
THEY SAID THEY ARE MAKING THE CHANGES SO THEY COULD DIRECT
THE GROWTH INTO THE RIGHT PLACE.
I'M A GARDENER.
I KNOW THAT FERTILIZER IS EXPENSIVE.
IF I LOOK AT A SECTION OF MY GARDEN AND PLANTS ARE GOING
GANGBUSTERS, I DON'T PUT FERTILIZER THERE.
I DON'T SPREAD IT ALL OVER THE WHOLE GARDEN.
IF I DO, THE AREA ALREADY FLOURISHING, IF I SPUR IT FURTHER,
IT WILL OVERGROW AND ACTUALLY END UP DYING.
IT'S GOING TO BE UNHEALTHY.
I LOOK FOR THE STAGNANT AREAS OF MY GARDEN AND THAT'S WHERE
I PUT MY FERTILIZER.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
GO INTO THE PARTS OF THE CITY AND SAY ADD THIS HERE, ADD

THIS HERE, ADD THIS HERE.
LOOK AT OUR GARDEN SO THAT THE WHOLE GARDEN GROWS AND IS
LUSH AND BEAUTIFUL.
I SENT YOU ALL AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
WHICH I THINK IS THE PERFECT WAY TO DO IT.
IT IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU ADD, ADD, ADD.
I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WHEN I GO INTO -- I'M AN
EXPERT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA, I'M YOUR GAL.
WHEN I GO INTO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, I LISTEN BECAUSE I AM
NOT AN EXPERT IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT AND NEED, SO I LISTEN.
I'M NOT SO ARROGANT AS TO SAY I KNOW WHAT YOU NEED.
WHEN I GO TO NORTH TAMPA AND THEY SAY THIS LOT HAS BEEN
VACANT THIS MANY YEARS, THIS BUILDING VACANT, PLEASE, HOW DO
WE GET REDEVELOPMENT, WHEN I GO TO DISTRICT 5 AND THEY SAY
WE NEED ADUs, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, MULTIUNIT.
PEOPLE LIKE BOBBY CREIGHTON TELL YOU WHAT HIS NEIGHBORHOOD
NEED, TELL YOU WHAT I'M HEARING.
YOU'VE GOT TO TALK TO THE BOBBIES AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE EXPERTS, NOT ME.
I'M AN EXPERT ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY KNOW THEIR STREETS, THEIR BUSINESSES, THEIR
INTERSECTIONS.

THEY ARE LEGITIMATE.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
WHO DON'T HAVE A LIST OF WHAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS AND
NEEDS.
THEY ONLY HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE'S
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY ONLY SPEAK DIVISIVELY, CALL PEOPLE NAMES AND SAY THE
PEOPLE ARE EVIL WITH EVIL MOTIVES.
THESE PEOPLE TEND TO HAVE STAGGERINGLY INACCURATE
INFORMATION.
THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR HELP WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
DO I NOT CONSIDER PEOPLE LIKE THAT LEGITIMATE.
I HOPE YOU LISTEN TO THE BOBBY CREIGHTONS AND THE OTHER
PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO KNOW WHAT IS GOING
ON WITH THIS BUSINESS, THIS INTERSECTION, THIS GROUP OF
HOMES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
STEVE MICHELINI.
NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JOHN GREEN.
10:09:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT ITEM NUMBER 28 ON YOUR AGENDA.
IT'S BEEN PENDING FOR QUITE A WHILE.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN LYNN HURTAK AND HER
STAFF, KELLY.

THIS IS A LETTER THAT I PREPARED IN SUPPORT OF THIS BUDGET
AMENDMENT BACK IN 2022.
IT OUTLINES THE PLAYGROUND AND THE NEED.
THIS IS THE PLAYGROUND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S AT THE SOUTH HIMES FACILITY FOR THE INTERBAY YMCA.
PARENTS USUALLY END UP SHINING THEIR CAR LIGHTS ON THIS
BASKETBALL COURT TO ALLOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS TO PLAY.
THIS IS NOT A LEAGUE.
THIS IS PICKUP BASKETBALL GAMES.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MAY REMEMBER SHERISHA HILLS, WHO IS NOW
IN NORTH CAROLINA.
I COPIED HER ON AN E-MAIL TELLING HER WE FINALLY GOT TO THE
CITY COUNCIL.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF PICTURES.
THIS IS ON BAY STREET, THE 3800 BLOCK OF BAY STREET WHERE
THE CITY JUST FINISHED CLEANING OUT THE DITCHES THERE.
THEY DID A GREAT JOB.
THE ONLY THING IS, IN THE 3900 BLOCK, AND YOU CAN SEE DOWN
HERE IS WHERE THEY CLEANED IT OUT.
THIS IS THE 3900 BLOCK WHERE THE STORMWATER INLET IS.
THIS IS WHERE THEY CLEANED.
THIS IS WHERE THEY DIDN'T, AND THEY STOPPED.
THERE WAS A CREW OF SIX PEOPLE THAT GOT OUT OF A TRUCK, AND
THEY PROCEEDED TO CUT THE WEEDS OUT OF THE 3800 BLOCK AND
DIDN'T TOUCH THE NEXT BLOCK.

AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH MAINTENANCE OF STORMWATER
DITCHES AND CANALS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON
THE MAINTENANCE BEFORE WE START EXPENDING LARGE AMOUNTS OF
MONEY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
I WOULD CERTAINLY SUGGEST AND I KNOW THERE ARE MANY OTHERS
THAT WOULD SAY THE SAME THING.
SHIFT THIS MONEY OVER TO MAINTENANCE AND HIT IT HARD AND HIT
IT FAST.
WE'RE GETTING READY TO ENTER INTO THE RAINY SEASON,
POTENTIALLY HURRICANE SEASON, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF AREAS
THAT HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN TOUCHED YET.
I WILL SAY THEY DID A GREAT JOB IN THE 3800 BLOCK, BUT ALL
THE WATER GOES TO THE WEST OF THE 3900 BLOCK.
PLEASE CONSIDER THAT IN YOUR DELIBERATIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
JOHN GREEN, FOLLOWED BY BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:11:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
JOHN GREEN, HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 38.
JOHN GREEN.
HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ISSUES OF THE HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLARS GOING TO OR BEING CONSIDERED GOING TO THE NAACP.
BEING THAT IT IS THE COUNTYWIDE PROGRAM, I FEEL THAT I CAN
SPEAK ON IT.
I'M NOT HERE TO OPPOSE THE GRANT, BUT I'M HERE TO SEE HOW

THE CITY WILL BE TRANSPARENT HOLDING THIS ORGANIZATION TO
THE HIGHEST STANDARD OF ACCOUNTABILITY BY MAKING INFORMATION
AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE ON YOUR PROPOSAL, SO WE JUST
WANT TO KNOW THAT.
NUMBER ONE, ALL ATTENDANCE SHEETS SO THAT NAMES CAN BE
VERIFIED AND LOCATIONS OF THE WORK -- WORKSHOPS IN ADVANCE.
NUMBER TWO, WHAT TYPE OF PROGRAMS WAS PROVIDED AND BY WHOM
WITH DATES AND DAYS.
CAN THE PROPOSAL BE ASSESSED THERE THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE
FOR THE PUBLIC VIEWING?
THREE, CAN THE PUBLIC SEE ALL EXPENDITURES ON HOW THE
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS SPENT AND WHO SIGNED OFF ON THE
MONIES TO BE RELEASED.
NUMBER FOUR, WHAT SALARIES WAS PAID AND HOW?
FOR EXAMPLE, STIPENDS, SALARIES, 1099s.
THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW HOW THE TAXPAYER MONIES ARE BEING
UTILIZED.
WITH THE SHORTAGE OF LOW INCOME HOUSING, HIGH RENT, PEOPLE
HAVING TROUBLE GETTING FUNDS TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES DUE TO
HURRICANES, THE COMMUNITY, TAXPAYERS DESERVE THE RIGHT TO
HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION AND IF REQUESTED, THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SIT IN ON ALL TRAININGS AND WORKSHOPS
REGARDLESS OF MEMBERSHIP OR NOT.
CONCERNING 568, I'M QUITE SURE YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THE

CONSTITUTION.
AMENDMENT 14, SUBSECTION 4, WE ALL KNOW THAT IT SAYS YOU
WILL NOT PAY SLAVES OR INSURRECTIONISTS FOR ANYTHING.
SO IN TERMS OF 568, IT'S GAS-LIGHTING.
IT NEVER HAD NO TEETH, AND IT WAS ONLY FOR POLITICAL
REASONS.
THANK YOU.
10:14:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
THE NEXT SPEAKER, ALISON HEWITT.
10:14:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 38.
I'D FIRST LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE
NAACP RECEIVING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT I AM
CONCERNED THAT THEY HELD THE CONTRACT FOR OVER TEN MONTHS
AND IT WAS JUST SIGNED ON THE 8th OF THIS MONTH.
THE 8th OF THIS MONTH AND IT ENDS THIS -- THIS FISCAL YEAR
ENDS SEPTEMBER 30 OF '25.
SO HOW MUCH WORK CAN BE DONE AND HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE
PRESENTED WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE TO
RECEIVE THAT MONEY.
I'M ASKING THAT THINGS BE TRANSPARENT.
IT SAYS CLEARLY THAT THEY HAVE TO OUTLINE EACH TRAINING
SESSION, DATES, TIME, AND TOTAL ATTENDEES.

CLIENT SERVICE, INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS, BUSINESS
ASSISTANCE, WORKSHOPS AND SEMINARS CONDUCTED.
THERE IS A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT HAS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED
BEFORE THIS $100,000 IS GIVEN OUT.
ALSO, SUPPOSED TO BE AN AUDIT.
AN AUDIT.
UNDER CHAPTER 119.01, THE COMMUNITY WILL BE ASKING FOR
PUBLIC REQUEST ABOUT WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THIS CITY TO
RECEIVE THIS MONEY, WHAT WORK WAS DONE, BECAUSE SOMEONE
COULD SIMPLY TAKE A PHONE BOOK AND WRITE NAMES DOWN OF
ATTENDEES.
WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT RAN THESE
WORKSHOPS, THAT THEY HAD THE PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND TO RUN
THE WORKSHOP.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, UP THIS VERY SUSPECT THAT THEY
WOULD HOLD THAT CONTRACT FOR TEN MONTHS.
TEN MONTHS.
SINK IN.
TEN MONTHS.
NOW ON THE 8th OF AUGUST AND IT'S GOING TO END ON
SEPTEMBER THE 30th, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT.
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
ARE THEY GOING TO TRY TO BOMBARD YOU ALL WITH RECEIPTS AND
INFORMATION AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PROPERLY VETTED?
THAT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS CITY.

SO EVERY PIECE OF PAPER, EVERY RECEIPT, EVERY NAME THAT IS
SUBMITTED SHOULD BE VETTED AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE
WAS IN ATTENDANCE.
MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE RECEIVE THE SERVICE.
AND ALSO WHERE IS THE PROPER NOTICE THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY,
ACCORDING TO THIS CONTRACT GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT THEY
WOULD KNOW THESE CLASSES ARE BEING DONE?
AT THE SCHOOL BOARD, IT TELLS THEM NOBODY IS SUPPOSED TO BE
ON THE PROPERTY, SO WHERE ARE THE CLASSES HELD?
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE CITY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF
BEFORE THEY WRITE A CHECK FOR $100,000 TO GIVE TO SOMEONE.
THANK YOU.
10:17:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DIMINISH ON.
CANDIDATE ALISON HEWITT.
10:17:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ALISON HEWITT.
CANDIDATE FOR DISTRICT 5.
AFTER CONSULTATION WITH MR. SHELBY, I HAVE FIVE ITEMS THAT I
WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I WILL RESERVE THREE FOR THE
PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ONE FOR THE WORKSHOP.
SO THE ONE I WILL FOCUS ON RIGHT NOW IS COORDINATION.
THE CITY, THE CRA PAYS THE CITY $5.2 MILLION TO MANAGE THE
CRAs.
YOU HAVE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA, ITEMS 13 THROUGH 17 THAT ARE
CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.

IN THE EAST TAMPA CRP, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT
STATES IN THERE THAT THE PRIORITY SHOULD BE TO WORK WITH
PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE THEY ARE FINED, BEFORE THE PROPERTY
IS TAKEN.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DOCUMENTED IN THE ADDRESSES
THAT ARE ON HERE THAT ARE IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA, THAT THE
CRP WAS FOLLOWED AND MAKE SURE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE IN THE CRA AND HAVE THE
ACCESS TO RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.
SO I WILL BRING BACK UP HERE FOUR MORE TIMES TO MAKE SURE.
AND IN THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, I MADE SURE
I HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION AND THE PICTURES, BUT THE OTHER
ISSUES ON WHICH I'LL SPEAK ABOUT.
THANK YOU.
10:18:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
FERNANDO FOLLOWED BY SYLVIA SMITH.
FERNANDO, GOING ONCE, TWICE?
SYLVIA SMITH.
GOOD MORNING.
10:19:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS SYLVIA SMITH.
THIRD GENERATION SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENT.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR HAVING THE PRESENTATION AT THE
FIVE DISTRICTS BY THE STAFF OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.

THESE MEETINGS, I THINK, WERE WELL ATTENDED.
I ATTENDED THE MEETING THAT WAS AT MADISON ELEMENTARY
SCHOOL, AND I THINK IT WAS WELL, CLOSE TO 140 PEOPLE THERE.
SO IT WAS WELL ATTENDED.
I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF THAT DID THE PRESENTATION AND
INFORM THOSE RESIDENTS OF THE CHANGES THAT WILL BE MADE TO
THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WILL AFFECT THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE FOUNDED 100 YEARS AGO,
OTHERS POST WORLD WAR II.
BUT THEY ARE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE RICH HERITAGE, AND IT
WILL BE AT THEIR EXPENSE THAT DEVELOPERS BENEFIT BY THOSE
CHANGES.
THANK YOU.
10:20:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHARLIE ADAMS.
THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE, WE'LL GET TO HER IN ONE SECOND.
SHE'S GONE TO ONE WORD LIKE CHER.
10:20:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS CHARLIE ADAMS, REPRESENTATIVE OF SULPHUR SPRINGS
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THANK YOU, CITY COUNCILMAN BILL CARLSON FOR COMING OUT TO
VISIT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK --

10:20:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT?
10:21:00AM >> I'M SORRY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
COUNCILMAN BILL CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO VISIT
SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR COMING OUT TO OUR MASTER PLAN
HEARING AND MANISCALCO -- COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THANK YOU
FOR HOPEFULLY WE CAN RESCHEDULE SOON TO COME VISIT.
A FEW PRESSING ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THIS MORNING IN
REGARDS TO WE SPOKE ABOUT IT PREVIOUSLY BEFORE IN REGARDS TO
SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN THE FOREFRONT.
ALSO BOARDWALK THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT BRIEFLY AS WELL AS US
BEING A FOOD DESERT IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY,
HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING SOME ATTENTION, ALLOCATE SOME
RESOURCES TO THE FARMERS MARKET AND TO CREATE JOBS,
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP SULPHUR
SPRINGS A RELEVANT TOPIC WITH THE CITY AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL
CAN HELP US HELP US SAVE OURSELVES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:22:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. ADAMS.
POYNOR.
ONE WORD NOW, RIGHT?
10:22:12AM >> THAT'S ALL IT TAKES.
WHY BE EXCESSIVE?

10:22:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:22:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I'M ASKING FOR MY BUDGET -- FOR THE BUDGET COMMITTEE FIRST.
WE HAD A REQUEST IN TO SPEAK TO THAT.
10:23:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY DON'T WE HOLD THAT UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC
COMMENT AND BRING YOU UP AS BUDGET --
10:23:07AM >> I GAVE YOU THE PAPER WORK.
I'LL COME BACK AND GET IT.
WORKS FOR ME.
LET'S TALK ABOUT MY STUFF.
GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, CITIZEN OF TAMPA.
THERE'S TOO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS CRAZY ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.
I PASSED YOU A LETTER FROM THE UNIVERSITY SQUARE FOLKS.
I NOTICED THAT THEY ONLY SENT IT TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUT
I THINK IT'S VERY INDICATIVE OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GIVING FEEDBACK ON THE COMP
PLAN AMENDMENTS.
WHEN I WAS DIGGING THROUGH ALL MY STUFF AND, OF COURSE, YOU
KNOW ME, I MAKE A MESS OUT OF EVERYTHING, BUT I WAS LOOKING
AT THIS.
AND THIS IS GONE FROM THE NEW COMP PLAN AMENDMENT,
ENCOURAGING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.

AS SOMEBODY WHO OWNS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, IT IS A GREAT
WAY FOR SMALL FOLKS TO PROVIDE HOUSING AT A REASONABLE
PRICE.
I HAVE FOLKS IN MY MISSING MIDDLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE SEVEN
OR EIGHT YEARS.
ONLY MOVE TO NURSING HOMES OR GO AND GET MARRIED.
I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE -- THAT WAS IN THE FEBRUARY 2025 PLAN
THAT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN MAY.
I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT ORIGINALLY, THE FOLKS AT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY NOT TO PUT THAT DATE
ON THERE, AND THEY NOW PUT A DATE ON THERE THAT SAYS THEY
CAN DO IT.
I'M NOT AGAINST MISSING MIDDLE.
I OWN TWO MISSING MIDDLE UNITS.
I MEAN, SERIOUSLY.
I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT PEOPLE GET ALL RILED UP BECAUSE
WHEN WE SAY DUPLEXES OR TOWN HOUSES, THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY
HOME.
HERE IS THE ROOFLINE FOR THAT SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
THIS IS THE DUPLEX TOWN HOUSE THAT THEY ARE PUTTING IN NEXT
DOOR.
I'VE BEEN THERE IN THE MORNING.
THEY DON'T EVEN GET SUN UNTIL LIKE NOONTIME NOW BECAUSE THIS
MONSTROSITY IS HERE.
SO THIS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.

THE THING ABOUT IT IS, WHEN YOU'RE DOING SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED, THEY NO LONGER APPLY TO THE 50% RULE.
THEY HAVE TO DO RETENTION ON-SITE.
THAT WAY THEY GET A NICE LITTLE RETENTION POND WHICH ENDS UP
GETTING FILLED IN LATER.
WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT THIS NEXT DOOR TO THEM?
I DON'T BLAME ANYBODY FOR SCREAMING AND HOLLERING ABOUT IT
IN THE COMP PLAN.
I WANTED TO SAY I SUPPORT BOBBY'S OPINIONS ON CODE
ENFORCEMENT.
I AGREE WITH TARAH BLUMA.
WHERE ARE THE PARKS DISTRICTS?
I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY WAS SPENT THAT WE DISHED
OUT.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I 100% SUPPORT THE FUNDS THAT YOU AS
COUNCIL DELEGATED TO THE NAACP.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, WHY HASN'T IT GOTTEN TO THEM?
THAT'S FY '25'S MONEY.
WHY IS IT STILL SITTING AT THE CITY OF TAMPA BANK ACCOUNT?
I CAN HYPOTHESIZE ON THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAY CLOSE.
WE ONLY HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS.
ROBIN LOCKETT, FOLLOWED BY THE LAST SPEAKER WILL BE CONNIE
BURTON.

10:26:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
I FIRST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR APPROVING ITEM NUMBER 28.
ANYTHING DEALING WITH THE YELLOW JACKETS AND ANY TYPE OF
IMPROVEMENT, I APPLAUD.
THE SECOND THING IS, IN REGARDS TO THE COMP PLAN, I HAVE TO
THINK THIS OUT.
THERE IS A MEETING THIS EVENING.
THERE ARE MEETINGS OVER THE LAST MONTH.
I THINK ANY DECISION REGARDING THE COMP PLAN SHOULD BE HELD
OFF UNTIL YOU FILL THAT SEAT.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A BLACK VOICE TO SPEAK FOR THE
COMMUNITY OF EAST TAMPA.
YOU DON'T HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGET
BECAUSE THERE IS A DEADLINE FOR THAT.
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR WHOEVER GETS THAT SEAT, I THINK THAT
THEY NEED TO HAVE INPUT FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
THAT'S MY THING ON THAT.
I HAVE TO COMMENT ON THE COMMENT ABOUT RESOLUTION 568.
568, THE DESIGN OF 568 WAS JUST A DESIGN.
THE TEETH THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDED OR THE TEETH THAT
WILL BE PROVIDED REGARDING 568 IS COMING FROM THE COMMITTEE.
THAT'S FOR US TO DO, RIGHT?
LOUIS DESIGNED IT, CREATED THE RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S UP FOR
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THE BLACK COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT SIT

IN THAT -- THAT MET AND STILL WILL MEET TO PROVIDE THAT
INFORMATION, THOSE TEETH THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
THAT'S MY THING ON THAT.
SO THANK YOU.
10:27:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. LOCKETT.
CONNIE BURTON IS OUR LAST SPEAKER.
10:28:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
I WANT TO FIRST APPRECIATE THE SPEAKER THAT COME UP HERE
WEEKLY TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF HISTORY OF OUR EXISTENCE
HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
ITEM 13 THROUGH 17, IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS THAT THE
COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO ASK FOR.
SO WHILE THE CITY TALKS ABOUT THE UPKEEP OF THOSE
PROPERTIES, HAVE THEY GONE TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, HAVE THEY
BEEN TAKEN AWAY, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THOSE PROPERTIES THEN
COME BACK AND GIVEN TO A HUGE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE ARE
WATCHING.
IT IS THE LITTLE THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS OF EAST TAMPA
HAVE ASKED FOR THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THOSE PROPERTIES
THAT WE DON'T SEE HAPPENING.
SO I BEGIN TO HEAR MYSELF AS A BROKEN RECORD TO SAY WHAT
ABOUT ADUs.
WHAT ABOUT CONTAINER HOMES?

WHAT ABOUT DUPLEXES?
WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PUT ON THE LOTS THAT WOULD BE
VERY AFFORDABLE TO THE COMMUNITY?
WE ARE WATCHING THAT.
ITEM NUMBER 71 AND 72, WHEN I THINK ABOUT COMPANIES
RECEIVING SUCH LARGE CONTRACTS, THEN I OFTEN THINK ABOUT THE
OFFICE OF SECOND CHANCE.
HOW IS ANY OF THOSE CONTRACTS TIED TO THOSE -- OR HAVE THEY
EVEN BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT WAYS IN WHICH SOME OF OUR
RETURNING CITIZENS, PEOPLE WITH BACKGROUND CHALLENGES CAN BE
BROUGHT INTO THE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY.
ALSO, ITEM NUMBER 38, REASON WHY THE NAACP IS THE OLDEST,
BOLDEST, BADDEST, DISCUSSED ORGANIZATION BECAUSE WE HAVE A
PROVEN TRACK RECORD.
WE HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF DOING JUST WHAT THE
COMMUNITY NEED.
WE HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF EVEN THOSE THAT LOOK LIKE
US STANDING UP AGAINST THOSE TYPE OF OPPOSITIONS.
I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD BE IN FULL SUPPORT OF MOVING FORWARD
WITH THE CONTRACT.
THE NAACP DO NOT WRITE THE CONTRACT.
THE CITY DO.
WE HAVE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY AND ALL OF
THESE BACK DOOR NOISES THAT WE CONSTANTLY HEAR FROM
INDIVIDUALS THAT DO NOT -- DO NOT COME TO A NAACP MEETING IS

NOT EVEN A MEMBER OF THE NAACP, I HOPE YOU PUT ON SOUND
EARPLUGS AGAINST THAT FOOLISHNESS AND MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
10:30:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE HAD A PREVIOUS REQUEST FROM STEPHANIE
POYNOR ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:30:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
10:30:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM --
10:31:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE MOTION IS TO HEAR FROM OUR -- THE
VICE-CHAIR OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE.
10:31:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VICE-CHAIR STEPHANIE POYNOR.
STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:31:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ARE YOU REPRESENTING YOURSELF OR OFFICIAL
OPINION --
10:31:29AM >> I'M OFFICIALLY REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS BUDGET REVIEW
COMMITTEE.
AS THE VICE-CHAIR.

THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL
REQUEST TRANSMISSION AND PRESENTATION OR AN UPDATE ON THE
PROGRESS ON THE FOLLOWING FEE STUDIES.
ONE, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STUDY.
TWO, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FEE STUDY.
THREE, MOBILITY FEE STUDY.
WE REQUEST THIS OF CITY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO BEGIN THE
PROCESS TO UPDATE THE FEES CHARGED BY THE CITY AS SO NO
LONGER SUPPLEMENT THE COST OF THESE SERVICES BY TAX DOLLARS
PAID BY THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
WHILE MANY OF THESE FEES MAY NOT BE RAISED TO THE ACTUAL
COST OF THE CITY, THEY CAN BE RAISED TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL
FUNDING FOR THINGS THAT CAN HELP ALL CITIZENS.
STORMWATER, ROADS, ROAD REPAIRS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND
JUST FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ALONE, I WANTED TO SHOW THIS TO
YOU BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE MOBILITY STUDY.
FIRST OF ALL IT SAYS IN THERE THAT IN 2021, THE LEGISLATION
SAYS THAT WE CAN ONLY INCREASE THE IMPACT FEE STUDY, THE
IMPACT FEES BY 50% OF THE TIME, UNLESS WE HAVE AN
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY AND WE HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING.
I JUST PULLED FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, I'M NOT GOING TO GET
DOWN AND DIRTY ABOUT THE REST OF IT.
BUT JUST FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ALONE, IF WE ONLY RAISED TO
THE ADJUSTMENT FOR INFLATION RATE, THIS RATE HASN'T BEEN

RAISED SINCE 1989.
IF WE JUST RAISED IT TO THE COST IT SHOULD BE FROM
INFLATION, WE HAVE LOST OUT SINCE 2024 -- I USE THAT BECAUSE
I KNOW THAT THE FIRST DRAFT OF THIS POLICY CAME OUT IN
SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
WE LOST $4.1 MILLION THAT WE COULD HAVE HAD FOR MOBILITY.
THAT'S ONLY FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
YOU SEE WE'VE GOT THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE CHART HERE THAT HAS
ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT FEES.
WHY?
IT'S BEEN SAID IN THE BUDGET MEETING ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS
BY HIGHER LEVEL STAFF THAT BOB BUCKHORN WAS VERY -- VERY --
I'M SORRY.
I GOT OFF TRACK.
THIS IS WHY I WROTE A SPEECH.
SORRY, I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
10:33:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:33:54AM >> I APOLOGIZE.
10:33:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW I THINK MR. VASKE COME
IN.
10:34:03AM >> HE'S IN THE BACK ROW.
10:34:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN UPDATE US ON
VERY BRIEFLY, IF AT ALL, ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THESE
FEE STUDIES BECAUSE WE HAVE ASKED.
10:34:16AM >> JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

I'M NOT PREPARED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THEM.
I THINK IMMINENTLY REASONABLE FOR THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU
GUYS REQUEST THIS INFORMATION.
10:34:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU'RE IN THE ROOM.
I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK.
I APPRECIATE IT.
MS. POYNOR, THE CITIZENS BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE IS LOOKING
FOR THIS DATA.
DO THEY HAVE A REQUESTED TIMELINE FOR THE DATA?
10:34:43AM >> NO, MA'AM.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MOBILITY STUDY IS FINISHED.
WHEN WE ASKED, WHEN WE MADE THE MOTION INITIALLY WE ASKED
FOR ALL THREE STUDIES TO BE PUT FORWARD AND STAFF SAID THAT
THEY MAY NOT BE COMPLETED.
THEY MAY NOT ALL BE COMPLETED.
BUT WE COULD AT LEAST FIND OUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS.
WE'VE HAD THE 600 PAGE FEE ASSESSMENT FOR TWO YEARS NOW.
AND NOT ONE FEE IN THE CITY HAS BEEN RAISED SINCE THEN WITH
THE EXCEPTION OF THE SIDEWALK FUNDS WHICH WERE ON THAT LIST.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN
RAISED.
WE HAVE TO START MOVING SOMEWHERE OF STOPPING CITIZENS' TAX
DOLLARS PAYING AND SUPPLEMENTING OTHER PEOPLE'S HOMES.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S NEW HOUSE.
10:35:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE SHOULD TAKE --

10:35:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL WORK ON THIS TO MAKE A MOTION.
I SUPPOSE -- CHAIR, DO YOU MIND IF I DO IT NOW?
10:35:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WANT TO WORK ON IT, NEW BUSINESS --
10:35:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE A BREAK BEFORE NEW
BUSINESS.
10:35:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'RE READY TO DO IT?
ANYBODY OBJECT?
WITHOUT OBJECTION, GO.
10:35:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS FROM THE CITIZENS BUDGET REVIEW
COMMITTEE.
I AGREE AND I BELIEVE -- I'LL FIND OUT IF OTHERS DO AS WELL.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.
SO THE COMMITTEE -- ACTUALLY, YEAH.
LET ME HOLD OFF ON IT SO I CAN HAVE KELLY REACH OUT.
THERE SHE IS.
SHE KNOWS ME BETTER THAN I KNOW MYSELF.
WE'LL WORK ON SOME TIMING AND I'LL COME BACK AT THE END OF
-- AT NEW BUSINESS TO FIND OUT A TIME FRAME FOR GETTING
THESE REPORTS.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I DO HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO BRING
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.
IT SOUNDS LIKE -- MAYBE IT MIGHT BE NICE FROM TIME TO TIME
IF YOU DO COME OR IF SOMEONE, EITHER MR. SCAGLIONE OR
YOURSELF, BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S CHAIR, TO COME AND SPEAK

OCCASIONALLY ON THE UPDATES, MAYBE A FIVE-MINUTE UPDATE ON
WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOW WE CAN ALL HELP.
I KNOW YOU CAN TALK TO EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE YOU
ARE MY APPOINTEE, SO APPOINTEES CAN TALK INDIVIDUALLY.
MAYBE IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HEAR OVERALL FROM TIME TO TIME
WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH US.
HATE TO MAKE IT A MONTHLY THING AND THEN WASTE TIME, BUT AS
NEEDED, LET US KNOW SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THIS TIME.
I THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA.
10:37:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
10:37:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, PLEASE.
10:37:24AM >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME TO THE
BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETINGS, BECAUSE WE GET SUPER IN-DEPTH
PRESENTATIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS.
WE'LL SIT THERE FOR TWO OR THREE HOURS GETTING WHAT YOU GUYS
ARE GETTING IN A CONDENSED VERSION IN 15, 20 MINUTES, WE'RE
GETTING FOR TWO OR THREE HOURS AND IT WILL MAKE THE HAIR
STAND UP ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GETTING
FROM STAFF.
THEY REALLY DO A GREAT JOB PRESENTING TO US.
I'M SURE WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AT THE NEXT
MEETING, DURING A PERIODIC PRESENTATION.
10:37:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A REMINDER TO COUNCIL AND TO THE
PUBLIC, YOUR COMMITTEE IS MEETING TOMORROW AT 3:00, WHICH IS
THE TIME SET UP BECAUSE IT IS THE LAST OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU

TO MEET BEFORE THE BUDGET PRESENTATION NEXT WEDNESDAY.
SO THEY ARE MEETING AT 3:00 TOMORROW IN THE SISTER CITIES
ROOM.
10:38:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:38:22AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STATUS OF THESE
REPORTS, BUT SOME REPORTS END UP TAKING YEARS EVEN FOR US TO
GET BACK.
HAD WE HAD DRAFT VERSIONS EARLIER, WE COULD HAVE MADE
DECISIONS TO INTERVENE.
AN EXAMPLE IS THE MOBILITY STUDY THAT TOOK LIKE FOUR YEARS.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS IN YOUR MOTION THAT YOU ASK FOR
DRAFTS OF WHATEVER REPORTS ARE IN PARTIAL COMPLETION BECAUSE
THERE MAY BE ANALYSIS OR CONCLUSIONS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL
AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROJECT PROCESS AND LOOKING AT
THIS.
10:38:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'LL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, PUBLIC SAFETY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ITEMS 3-12.
10:39:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE SAID ITEMS, 3-12.
10:39:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
10:39:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS 13 THROUGH 16 OR 17 JUST TO SAY THAT
THERE IS NO LAND BEING TAKEN IN ANY OF THESE.
THESE ARE SIMPLY LIENS PLACED ON PROPERTIES FOR PEOPLE WHO
ARE NOT DOING THE WORK THAT THEY NEEDED TO HAVE DONE.
THERE IS NO TAKING OF ANY LAND.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT.
I MOVE ITEMS 13 THROUGH 25.
10:39:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:39:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE ITEMS 26 THROUGH 34.
10:39:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.

FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:40:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE 35 THROUGH 39.
10:40:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN
CARLSON, 40 THROUGH 47.
10:40:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
10:40:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
I NEED A MOTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:40:27AM >> SET 48 AND 49 FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
10:40:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
MR. SHELBY, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.
10:40:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, BY MY COUNT, WITH REGARD TO THE ITEMS
ON STAFF REPORTS, WITHOUT STAFF, I HAVE ITEMS 70, 71, 72,
73, I BELIEVE, IF THAT'S CORRECT, YOU CAN MOVE THOSE.
10:40:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED, 71, 72, 73 AND 75.

10:41:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE 70 TO 73.
10:41:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THOUGHT WE AGREED -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD
WANTED TO APPROVE 75.
10:41:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:41:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
ITEM 70 THROUGH 73, APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS.
10:41:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:41:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75, 78, 79, 80, 81.
10:41:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DID THE WRITTEN ONES.
WE JUST NEED 75.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:41:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:41:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OPEN 10 A.M. --
10:41:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:42:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 AND 10:30
PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM NUMBER 50 IS NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM STAFF?
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
WE CAN'T SEE YOU.
THERE YOU ARE AND NOW YOU ARE GONE.
PEOPLE COME AND GO SO QUICKLY AROUND HERE.
10:42:41AM >> CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?
10:42:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING.
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
GO AHEAD.
10:42:46AM >> GOOD MORNING.
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
ITEM 50 IS TA/CPA 25-01 LOCATED AT 3606 WEST BAY TO BAY
BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST WAS TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RESIDENTIAL 20.
YOU VOTED ON THIS ON YOUR JULY 31st, 2025 MEETING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:43:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
NO QUESTIONS.
IS THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS, PLEASE?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:43:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE ITEMS 50, FILE TA/CPA 25-01, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND
USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 3606 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10,
TO RESIDENTIAL 20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:43:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:44:10AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND VIERA
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:44:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THE REST OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL AND
REQUIRE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THESE ITEMS TO BE SWORN IN.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO TESTIFY ON ANY OF THE FOLLOWING HEARINGS,
PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY THE

CLERK.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:44:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM 51, MR. THOMAS.
10:44:42AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 51, REZ 25-37.
THE ITEM IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4911
EAST 10th AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:44:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
WE HAVE SOMEBODY ONLINE.
APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
VERY GOOD.
10:45:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:45:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
10:45:25AM >> NO, I'M NOT.
I'M JUST HERE TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:45:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
ONCE AGAIN, ANYBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO

THIS ITEM?
10:45:36AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:45:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
IT'S CLOSED.
10:45:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM 51, FILE REZ 25-37, AN ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4911 EAST
10th AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATIONS RM-16 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO RM-24
(RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:46:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:46:22AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:46:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
GOING ON TO 52.
STAFF?
10:46:34AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

AGENDA ITEM 52 IS REZ 25-43.
THE ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
4904 WEST PAUL AVENUE AND FOLIO NUMBER 131,914.00000, THE
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
REVISIONS COMPLETED INCLUDED THE COUNCIL DIRECTED REVISIONS
OF UPDATING THE SCHEMATIC TO MATCH COLORIZED RENDERINGS
SUBMITTED DURING PUBLIC HEARING, INCLUDING THE COLORIZED
RENDERINGS IN SITE PLAN PACKAGE AND A NOTE TO THE SITE PLAN
TO MAKE THE SCHEMATIC ELEVATIONS BINDING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
10:47:18AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING YOU MIGHT ASK ME ABOUT THIS.
10:47:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE MODIFICATIONS AS
REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 4904 WEST PAUL AVENUE AND FOLIO
131914-0000, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION CI MANAGERS INTENSIVE TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:48:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:48:12AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:48:17AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:48:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 53.
10:48:20AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
AGENDA ITEM 53 IS REZ 25-46.
REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1901 WEST PLATT
STREET, 211 AND 213 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY 16 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN

SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
REVISIONS COMPLETED INCLUDING THE COUNCIL DIRECTED REVISIONS
OF REMOVING 9 BY 18 AND SITE DATA TABLE FOR PARKING,
UPDATING SETBACKS TO ENSURE FIRST FLOOR IS STEPPED BACK AND
ADDING A NOTE TO THE SITE PLAN TO MAKE THE SCHEMATIC
ELEVATIONS BINDING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:49:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
ITEM 53 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
FILE 53, REZ 25-46, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
1901 WEST PLATT STREET AND 211 AND 213 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND RM-16 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO
PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:49:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN

HURTAK.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:49:55AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:50:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 54.
10:50:01AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 54 IS REZ-25-52.
THE ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
2801 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED AND ATTACHED.
REVISIONS COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED TO THE
CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
10:50:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
10:50:26AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE
PETITIONER.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING
YOUR APPROVAL.
10:50:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:50:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE ITEM 54.
FILE NUMBER REZ-25-52, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 2801 NORTH TAMPA STREET IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CN, COMMERCIAL
NEIGHBORHOOD, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED AND SEMI DETACHED, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:51:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:51:16AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:51:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM NUMBER 55.
10:51:23AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 55 IS REZ-25-55, THE ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2318 WEST NORTH B STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI

DETACHED.
REVISIONS COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED TO THE
CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
10:51:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
10:51:46AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE
PETITIONER.
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE RESOLUTION REGARDING THE BONUS.
THANK YOU.
10:51:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 55?
10:52:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU READ -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR,
AYE.
OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
IT IS CLOSED.
READ THE RESOLUTION --
10:52:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL READ THE ORDINANCE AND THEN DO THE
RESOLUTION, YES.
NUMBER 55, FILE REZ 25-55, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2318 WEST NORTH B STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION, RM 16, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, TO
PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:52:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:52:56AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:52:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOW I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:53:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 56.
10:53:17AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
CAN YOU SEE ME.
10:53:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, WE'VE GOT YOU.
10:53:23AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
I'VE BEEN SWORN.
ITEM 56 IS AB2-25-04, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1301 WEST

CASS STREET.
THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, BAR/LOUNGE
CLASSIFICATION, BEER AND WINE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND
PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED, AND A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED
TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:53:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:53:55AM >> APPLICANT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.
I'M REQUESTING APPROVAL.
10:53:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO ITEM 56?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:54:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, BAR/LOUNGE, CONSUMPTION
ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES/OFF PREMISES CONSUMPTIONS AND

MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT
CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND, LOCATED AT 1301 WEST
CASS STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
10:54:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:54:44AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:54:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM
57.
STAFF.
10:54:53AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN AGAIN WITH DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 57 IS AB 2-25-11.
STAFF IS ACTUALLY GOING TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE
SECOND READING OF THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR
CITY COUNCIL SESSION, WHICH WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 4, 2025.
AN ISSUE WITH THE SITE PLAN WAS RECENTLY IDENTIFIED AND
REQUIRES CORRECTION PRIOR TO FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
THE APPLICANT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNING TO PARTICIPATE
REMOTELY.

HOWEVER I HAVE COMMUNICATED THIS REQUEST WITH THE APPLICANT
AND HE IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTINUANCE.
10:55:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE FILE AB 2-25-11 TO
THE SEPTEMBER 4th, 2025, MEETING AT 10:30 -- 10:00 A.M. AT
OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
33602, THIRD FLOOR.
10:55:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO 10:30 A.M. PETITIONS.
10:56:16AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
HERE FOR 58, 59, 60.
THE RESOLUTIONS PURSUANT TO THESE ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED
DURING THE HEARING.
FIRST OF ALL, ITEM 58, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION
TO ADOPT THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR NON-AD
VALOREM ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN YBOR CITY AREA OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING A PORTION OF THE
OPERATING COST OF THE TAMPA, YBOR HISTORIC ELECTRIC
STREETCAR PROJECT DURING FISCAL YEAR 2026.
THERE HAS BEEN NO INCREASE IN THE RATE OR EXPANSION OF THE

DISTRICT.
SO IT'S THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN.
THE CITY HAS RECEIVED WRITTEN OBJECTIONS AND THOSE HAVE BEEN
FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK.
MICHAEL ENGLISH IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THAT IS ALL.
10:57:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 58?
10:57:12AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
WE HAVE TO OPEN THE HEARING AND APPROVE --
10:57:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE PREVIOUSLY OPENED ALL THE HEARINGS.
10:57:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD -- MARTIN
SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, WE HAVE ALREADY OPENED IT.
WOULD YOU LIKE US TO OPEN INDIVIDUALLY?
10:57:31AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
YES.
10:57:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO OPEN NUMBER 58.
10:57:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM
58 FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM 58.
10:57:45AM >> WE HAVE MICHAEL ENGLISH HERE.
10:57:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?

10:57:53AM >> SPENT THE MORNING HERE, MIGHT AS WELL SAY HELLO.
MICHAEL ENGLISH.
CHAIR OF THE STREETCAR BOARD.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU ALL.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE SPECIAL
ASSESSMENT.
10:58:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HAVEN'T YOU BEEN A MEMBER SINCE THE
BEGINNING?
A MEMBER OF THE DISTRICT FOR THE STREETCAR AND ALL THAT?
10:58:12AM >> I'VE BEEN THE MEMBER AND CHAIRMAN SINCE WE OPENED -- YEAR
BEFORE WE OPENED THE STREETCAR IN 2002.
10:58:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES.
10:58:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:58:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, NO.
10:58:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:58:24AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP ON
THIS.
MR. VASKE, THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT IT IS NOT AN INCREASE.
BUT COULD YOU ON EACH OF THESE MAYBE JUST EXPRESS NOT ONLY
THAT THERE IS NOT AN INCREASE, BUT ALSO MAYBE HOW LONG THEY
HAVE BEEN AROUND AND THAT THEY ARE NOT NEW.
EVERY YEAR WE GET E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE THINKING IT IS A NEW
TAX OR A NEW FEE --
10:58:47AM >> ARE YOU ASKING ME THAT QUESTION?
10:58:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO, MR. VASKE.

JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS.
SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE NEW OR INCREASES.
STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, FOR EACH OF
THESE.
10:58:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO ITEM 58?
WE HAVE SOMEBODY COMING UP.
SCOOT ASIDE.
YOU CAN SIT DOWN NOW.
THANK YOU.
10:59:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS COREL CASIANOV.
I AM A PROPERTY OWNER IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
I'M HERE TO OBJECT THIS PROPOSED NON-AD VALOREM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED IS THAT THERE ARE PROVEN
REVENUE MODELS FOR STREETCARS ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
FOR EXAMPLE, SAN FRANCISCO TAKES IN $30 MILLION ANNUALLY.
AND THAT'S A $3 FARE FOR THE HISTORIC STREETCAR.
NEW ORLEANS, 10 MILLION ANNUAL, 1.25 PER RIDE.
PORTLAND, 1 MILLION IN FARES REVENUE, 2.50 FOR TWO AND A
HALF HOURS.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT ARE
ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS TO THIS VERSUS TAXING PEOPLE IN
DOWNTOWN AND YBOR.
I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT A REASONABLE

FARE STRUCTURE AND THEN YOU CAN KEEP IT FREE FOR FLORIDA
RESIDENTS AS WE HAVE A LOT OF TOURISTS THAT COME INTO TOWN.
ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO CREATE A DIFFERENT PRICING MODEL
OR JUST SEEK ALTERNATIVE GRANTS OR PUBLIC SERVICE OFFERINGS.
THANKS.
11:00:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. VASKE, CLARIFICATION WHICH PROPERTIES ARE ACTUALLY
COVERED BY THIS?
11:00:29AM >> IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN AND YBOR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:00:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE TYPES OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE COVERED
BY THE NON-AD VALOREM?
11:00:35AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
YEAH.
IT WOULD BE --
11:00:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MORRIS MAY HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
11:00:44AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THE ASSESSMENT APPLIES TO COMMERCIAL
PROPERTY.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, HOMESTEADED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS
NOT SUBJECT TO THE ASSESSMENT.
11:00:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS THE CLARIFICATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE -- MORRIS MASSEY, WOULD YOU
STATE YOUR NAME?
11:00:57AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:01:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THE PURPOSES OF PUBLIC COMMENT, AD
VALOREM DOES NOT AFFECT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
ONLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

JUST FYI.
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS NOT COVERED UNDER THIS PARTICULAR
ITEM.
11:01:14AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:01:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT COMPLETES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
11:01:26AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO GET CLARIFICATION.
11:01:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SURE.
GO AHEAD.
11:01:30AM >> YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS -- SORRY.
MY NAME IS COREL, PROPERTY OWNER IN DOWNTOWN.
YOU'RE SAYING THIS ASSESSMENT AND TAX ESSENTIALLY DOESN'T
AFFECT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS?
11:01:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
UNDER THE CURRENT OPERATION OF THE STREETCAR WHEN THIS WAS
FIRST CREATED IT ONLY APPLIED TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING SINCE
THE BEGINNING OF THE STREETCAR.
IT DOES NOT APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
11:01:57AM >> EVEN RENTAL PROPERTIES.
11:01:59AM >> I RECEIVED A NOTICE WHICH SAYS WE'LL BE RECEIVING AN
EXTRA TAX RELATED TO THIS.
11:02:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
I'M NOT SURE.
11:02:07AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
IF IT'S NOT HOMESTEADED, IT MAY APPLY TO

THAT BECAUSE IT IS BEING USED FOR A KIND OF COMMERCIAL
PURPOSE.
11:02:15AM >> THAT'S INTERESTING, RIGHT?
BECAUSE I RENT OUT A CONDO DOWNTOWN.
THIS CONDO THAT'S BEING AFFECTED.
AND IT'S A LONG-TERM RENTAL.
IT'S NOT A SHORT-TERM AirBnB.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S UNFAIR FOR FOLKS IN MY SITUATION TO
PAY THIS IF IT IS STATED AS A COMMERCIAL TAX.
11:02:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT
INFORMATION OUT THERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THIS.
WE NEED SOMEBODY TO READ THE RESOLUTION.
11:02:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. VASKE OR MR. MORRIS, COULD ONE OF YOU
SAY APPROXIMATELY HOW LONG THIS FEE HAS BEEN AROUND?
11:02:56AM >> IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 2000, THE YEAR 2000.
11:03:02AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE 26th YEAR OF IT
OR 25th YEAR OF IT.
11:03:06AM >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
11:03:09AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:03:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW A MOTION TO REOPEN -- WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 59.
MOTION TO REOPEN PUBLIC HEARING FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
11:03:42AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
ITEM 59 ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A
RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR
NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS
DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING FOR
THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN ENHANCED SERVICES AND IMPROVEMENTS
IN THE SAID AREA DURING THE 2026 FISCAL YEAR, INCLUDING
TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, MARKETING, SECURITY SERVICES
FOR SAID AREA.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO INCREASES IN THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNT OR
EXPANSION OF THE DISTRICT.
I BELIEVE THIS DISTRICT WAS CREATED IN 2003, AND THERE'S

BEEN NO CHANGES OBVIOUSLY ON THIS ROLL.
NO WRITTEN OBJECTIONS SUBMITTED.
MICHAEL MARINO IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
HE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
11:04:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MICHAEL.
11:04:40AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
MICHAEL MARINO, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
AS MENTIONED BY JUSTIN, THERE'S NO CHANGE OVERALL, BUT THERE
ARE ADDITIONS TO THE WORK PLAN.
WE'RE ADDING MORE PUBLIC ART INTO THE WESTSHORE DISTRICT.
ALSO WORKING ON RELANDSCAPING, ESPECIALLY WESTSHORE
BOULEVARD.
THAT MAY COME TO YOU AT SOME POINT.
THE MEDIANS ON WESTSHORE BOULEVARD OWNED BY THE CITY, THE
REST OF THE ROAD OWNED BY THE COUNTY.
WHEN THE COUNTY FINISHES THEIR WORK IN THE NEXT SIX TO NINE
MONTHS, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL WORK WITH CITY PARKS TO MAKE SURE
THE LANDSCAPING ON WESTSHORE BOULEVARD MEETS THE STANDARD
THAT WE WANT TO SEE GOING FORWARD ON WESTSHORE.
THAT MAY COME TO YOU AS A TRIPARTY AGREEMENT, BUT
NONETHELESS WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND CONTINUE
LOOKING FORWARD TO WORK WITH YOU TO TRANSFORM WESTSHORE
DISTRICT.
11:05:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. VASKE, UNLIKE NUMBER 58, NUMBER 59 AND 60 HAVE TWO
RESOLUTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH.
ONE IS THE -- FOR THE ASSESSMENT ROLL, NON-AD VALOREM
ASSESSMENT ROLL AND THE SPECIAL SERVICES ASSESSMENT
AGREEMENT.
WOULD THEY VOTE SEPARATELY ON EACH RESOLUTION?
11:05:45AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
YES, PLEASE.
11:05:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 59?
11:06:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I'M ALL FOR THE WESTSHORE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST OF
THE CHHA BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT MODE OF HOW THEY DO
BUSINESS AND WHAT THEIR BUILDING PATTERNS ARE AND THE
BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
SO THEY SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAS ASKED FOR PREVIOUSLY.
I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN EVACUATE FROM ALL THE
WAY AROUND THEM, UNLIKE WHERE I LIVE.
11:06:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE IT.
I NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THE FIRST RESOLUTION.
11:06:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVE THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT

RESOLUTION.
11:06:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO MOVE THE NON-AD VALOREM
ASSESSMENT FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS.
MOTION TO MOVE --
11:06:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SPECIAL ASSESSMENT SERVICES AGREEMENT.
11:06:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO APPROVE THE -- MOVE THE SPECIAL
ASSESSMENT SERVICE AGREEMENT FROM MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM
HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
I NEED A MOTION TO REOPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 60.
HURTAK, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THE HEARING IS OPEN.
11:07:33AM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

I'M HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 60 ON THE AGENDA.
REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE NON-AD
VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT
WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING FOR THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN
ENHANCED SERVICES IN SAID AREA DURING THE 2026 FISCAL YEAR,
INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITING TO MARKETING, BUSINESS
DEVELOPMENT SAFETY, MAINTENANCE, TRANSPORTATION, AND
PLANNING, BEAUTIFICATION AND URBAN DESIGN.
WE ARE ALSO SEEKING APPROVAL OF DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE DOWNTOWN
PARTNERSHIP REGARDING THE USE OF THE NON-AD VALOREM
ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT.
THIS DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1997.
THERE'S BEEN NO EXPANSION THIS YEAR, AND THERE'S NO INCREASE
IN THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNT THIS YEAR.
KENYATTA BRIDGES, CEO AND PRESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP,
IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED OBJECTIONS TO THE IMPOSITION OF THE
SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
THE CLERK HAS THOSE OBJECTIONS ON FILE.
THANK YOU.
11:08:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
STAFF HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
MS. BRIDGES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?

11:08:43AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THIS COUNCIL.
I'M KENYATTA BRIDGES, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE TAMPA
DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE IN
THE PARTNERSHIP TO MANAGE THE SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT FOR
NEARLY 30 YEARS.
OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, OUR CLEAN AND SAFE TEAM HAS
COLLECTED OVER 350 TONS OF LITTER AND DEBRIS IN THE PUBLIC
RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
ALSO CORRECTED 800 ACTS OF GRAFFITI AND ASSISTED WITH 156
STRANDED MOTORISTS.
IN ADDITION, THROUGH UNHOUSED LIAISON SERVICES, WE HAVE MADE
CONTACT WITH OVER 634 OF OUR UNHOUSED RESIDENTS IN DOWNTOWN
TO CONNECT THEM WITH RESOURCES.
AND THAT HAS LED TO EIGHT INSTANCES OF HOUSING PLACEMENTS
FOR UNHOUSED PROGRAM.
IN ADDITION TO OUR CLEAN AND SAFE PROGRAM, THE PARTNERSHIP
-- BEYOND THE CLEAN AND SAFE PROGRAM, THE PARTNERSHIP
CONTINUES TO CELEBRATE THE ARTS AND LIFT UP ARTISTS AND OUR
LOCAL ARTISTS.
WE HAVE NOW INSTALLED SIX MURALS ACROSS DOWNTOWN, WHICH
WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF AS IT FURTHER ENERGIZES AND BEAUTIFIES
THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
ADDITIONAL, CURRENTLY LEADING A PLANNING STUDY FOR 300 ACRES

IN THE NORTH DOWNTOWN AREA TO LOOK AT THAT AREA, TO SEE IF
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE DENSITY IN HOUSING,
DENSITY IN WORKFORCE, AS WELL AS ACTIVATE MORE RETAIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE IN THE
PARTNERSHIP.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:10:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
VERY GOOD.
I NEED A MOTION --
11:10:28AM >> COREL CASIANOV.
I'D LIKE TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND HAVE THE COUNCIL REVIEW
THE LANGUAGE OF THE ASSESSMENT, SPECIFICALLY THERE'S VAGUE
TERMINOLOGY LISTED IN HERE SUCH AS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED
TO.
I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS MORE ACCESSIBLE INFORMATION ON
SPECIFIC FUND ALLOCATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND TAMPA DOWNTOWN
PARTNERSHIP, AS WELL AS THE MEASURABLE OUTCOMES AND KEY
METRICS OF WHAT GOOD LOOKS LIKE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY PROVIDE METRICS ON DASH BUT WHAT ARE THE
GOALS OF RIDERSHIP THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HIT?
AND IS IT NECESSARY WHEN WE HAVE OTHER TRANSPORTATION
METHODS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME DUPLICATION OF
EFFORTS BETWEEN SAFETY AND THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP

THAT ARE ALREADY COVERED BY THE CITY.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON
ARE WE DUPLICATING EFFORTS?
IS THERE ROOM TO CONSOLIDATE, THAT THESE ASSESSMENTS -- EVEN
IF THEY ARE STAYING THE SAME, CAN THEY DECREASE?
THE LAST COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON THIS IS THAT WHILE
I APPRECIATE A LOT OF THE EFFORTS TO KEEP THE CITY
BEAUTIFUL, THE TERM BEAUTIFICATION ITSELF IS PRETTY VAGUE.
I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN
PARTNERSHIP IS DOING TO DRIVE MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO
THE CITY, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY ATTRACTED A
LOT OF THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES TO COME
INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AND LIKE THE COUNCIL
TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
THANKS.
11:12:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THE FIRST RESOLUTION, PLEASE.
11:12:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE
NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR A NON-AD VALOREM
ASSESSMENT, DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT.
11:12:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL ASSESSMENT
SERVICE AGREEMENT.
11:12:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
11:12:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:12:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:12:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE ARE A LOT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THE
ITEMS.
ALL THE ISSUES YOU BROUGHT UP ARE ISSUES THAT MS. BRIDGES
AND I HAVE ADDRESSED AND DISCUSSED.
A LOT OF THE ISSUES CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED.
I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE TO YOU ATTEND SOME OF THE
PUBLIC HEARINGS WE HAVE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND
THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WE HOLD.
A LOT OF THOSE THINGS YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT ARE ADDRESSED.
11:13:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALSO, WHILE KENYATTA IS HERE, YOU MIGHT WANT
TO TRADE CARDS.
PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN DOWNTOWN IDEALLY WOULD BE
INVOLVED IN THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AS WELL.
AFTER YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND IDEAS, CONTACT US.
DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP HAS A LOT OF DATA WHICH THEY HAVE

SHARED WITH US.
IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT, I WOULD BE
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN DOWNTOWN
INVOLVED IN MAKING IT BETTER.
THANK YOU.
11:13:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED -- MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PARTICULAR
PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THEN WE'LL MOVE BACK INTO THE 10:30
PUBLIC HEARINGS.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
UNANIMOUS.
PASSED UNANIMOUS.
MOTION TO REOPEN 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS, PLEASE.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM 61.
11:14:10AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS MORNING ON
AMENDMENT AND RESTATEMENTS TO COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLANS.
THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE CENTRAL PARK COMMUNITY

REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE HEARD THIS IN YOUR CAPACITY AS THE
CRA BOARD.
IT'S ALSO BEEN HEARD BY THE CAC FOR THE CENTRAL PARK CRA
AREA AND BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
CEDRIC McCRAY, COURTNEY ORR AND OTHERS FROM CRA STAFF ARE
HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
11:14:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MASSEY FIRST.
THERE HAS BEEN -- WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT
THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT THIS BEING ATTACHED TO THE COMP PLAN.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE COMP PLAN, THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE
COMP PLAN MEANING WHATEVER COMP PLAN IS IN PLACE.
AM I CORRECT?
11:15:02AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
CORRECT.
STATE LAW MANDATES THAT WHENEVER YOU AMEND YOUR COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING
COMMISSION TO ENSURE THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING
COMP PLAN THAT'S IN PLACE.
IT'S NOT CHANGING THE COMP PLAN AT ALL.
LIKE YOUR REZONING PETITIONS, THEY HAVE TO REVIEW IT TO SEE
IF IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING COMP PLAN.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE.
11:15:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE STILL QUITE A WAYS AWAY FROM APPROVAL
OF A NEW COMP PLAN.
11:15:30AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YES, MA'AM.

11:15:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CEDRIC, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?
11:15:37AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
JUST WANTED TO SUPPORT WHAT ATTORNEY MASSEY HAS SAID.
WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST APPROVAL OF ITEMS 61, 62, 63 RELATED
TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN UPDATES FOR CENTRAL
PARK, TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT AND DOWNTOWN CRAs.
11:15:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE MOVE THESE TOGETHER OR HAVE TO BE
INDIVIDUAL?
11:16:04AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THEY ARE SCHEDULED FOR SEPARATE PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
I WOULD HEAR THEM SEQUENTIALLY AND SEPARATE VOTES.
11:16:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
ON ITEM 61, REFERENCE THE CENTRAL PARK COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AREA?
11:16:22AM >> ALISON HEWITT, RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA, ALSO CANDIDATE FOR
DISTRICT 5.
USUALLY I WILL BE UP HERE FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRP AND A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MY COMMENTS WILL BE BECAUSE OF THE
EAST TAMPA CRP.
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IS HOW THE CRA IS SUPPOSED TO
BE DEVELOPED.
SO IF WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE PLAN OR AT LEAST IN THIS
UPDATE THAT YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL REPORT ON HOW THE PLAN WAS
FOLLOWED, IF IT WAS FOLLOWED, IF IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY, IF
IT WAS SUCCESSFUL, THEN HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THIS NEW UPDATE

IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION?
I AM JUST ASKING THAT WE MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED
TIME AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, THAT WE
REQUIRE A SUMMARY OF HOW THE PLAN WAS FOLLOWED AND
ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
WE INCLUDE GOING FORWARD AN IMPLEMENTATION OF TRACKING TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE PLAN AND TAX DOLLARS AND
TIF DOLLARS ARE SPENT ACCORDING TO THE CRP, BECAUSE YOU'LL
GET PROJECTS THAT SAYS IT IS ADDRESSED AND INCLUDED IN THE
CRP.
BUT IS THAT PROJECT, WILL IT SEED OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO
GROW?
EXAMPLE, EAST TAMPA, YOU JUST RECENTLY APPROVED 3.5 MILLION
FOR MIXED USE AND THEN 5 MILLION FOR THE JC NEWMAN.
NOW WHAT DOES THAT IMPACT FOR THE PLAN THAT WILL SEED
ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DELIBERATE AND THOUGHTFUL
AS WE ARE APPROVING THESE PROJECTS.
THE STAKEHOLDER AND ENGAGEMENT OF THE PLAN, IT WAS
SIGNIFICANT WHEN THESE PLANS WERE CREATED.
THESE UPDATES, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGE AND
SPEAK TO, AGAIN, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR THE LAST 20 OR SO
YEARS, WAS IT SUCCESSFUL?
SHOULD WE CONTINUE THAT?
AND TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY WHAT THE NEW CHANGES ARE IF IT'S

GOING IN A NEW DIRECTION?
BECAUSE THERE IS NOT EVEN AN EXPLANATION TO YOU AS A CRA
BOARD ON WHAT THE ACTUAL CHANGES ARE AND UPDATES TO THE
PLAN.
YOU JUST HAVE A PLAN.
THE OUTLOOK REALLY GOOD.
AFTER 20 YEARS OR SO, YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST A ROAD MAP OF
WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE
GOING.
I'M ASKING THAT AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH OTHER
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU,
ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO ARE PRIMARY -- FOR FAMILIES AND
RESIDENTIAL, LIKE EAST TAMPA, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION FOR WEST
TAMPA, THAT WE'RE BEING THOUGHTFUL AND DELIBERATE TO MAKE
SURE THESE PLANS ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED ACCORDING TO WHAT IT
WAS ORIGINALLY DONE AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT WHERE THESE NEW
PLANS ARE GOING.
THANK YOU.
11:19:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 61?
MR. MASSEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING?
11:19:29AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MS. HEWITT BROUGHT
UP.
ALL OF THE PLAN UPDATES BEFORE YOU DO HAVE A VERY DETAILED

DESCRIPTION ABOUT WHAT THE STATUS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT
EFFORTS ARE.
AND THOSE AREAS.
A LOT OF THE REASON WHY THE PLANS ARE UPDATED IS BECAUSE OF
THE AGE OF THE PLANS.
THEY ARE OVER 20 YEARS OLD.
CASE OF DOWNTOWN, IT'S OVER 40 YEARS OLD.
ALSO THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE CRA BOARD HAVE ADJUSTED
OVER TIME WHERE YOU ALL HAVE MUCH MORE CONCERN ABOUT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
ALL THE PLANS ARE BEING UPDATED TO ADDRESS THAT IN MORE
CONCRETE TERMS.
AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, ANYTIME A PROJECT OR A FUNDING
PROPOSAL COMES BEFORE YOU ALL, PART OF WHAT STAFF HAS TO DO
AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER AS CRA BOARD IS WHETHER IT IS
CONSISTENT WITH AND FURTHERS THE INDIVIDUAL PLAN.
11:20:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
11:20:22AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ASK MR. McCRAY, SO, FIRST OF ALL, TO WHAT
MR. MASSEY WAS SAYING, WE AS A CRA BOARD SEVERAL YEARS AGO
ASKED FOR THESE.
THEN I THINK WE ASKED THEM AGAIN AT SOME POINT.
THE REASON THESE PLANS ARE UPDATED, THE COMMUNITY WANTED IT,
WE AS CRA BOARD WANTED IT AND THEN STAFF WENT THROUGH THE
PROCESS.

MY ONLY QUESTION FOR THE SAKE OF THE COMMUNITY, FOR EACH OF
THESE, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE CAC VOTE WAS?
DO YOU REMEMBER OR APPROXIMATE?
WAS IT UNANIMOUS OR 60%?
WHAT WAS THE SUPPORT ON THE CAC ABOUT IT AND WERE THERE ANY
CONCERNS?
11:21:01AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES, EXTENSIVE ENGAGEMENT VIA ONLINE
SURVEYS.
THE CONSULTANTS FOR EACH OF THOSE RESPECTIVE CRAs ATTENDED
ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, VISIONING SESSIONS AND I BELIEVE MET
WITH YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY AS BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE SPECIFIC
PURPOSE OF BUILDING OUT THOSE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLANS.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE VOTE WAS AN AFFIRMATIVE FOR
ALL OF THE CACs.
MS. ORR MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF IT.
SOME OF THE MEETINGS PREDATE US BEING IN OUR CURRENT ROLES.
THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO
THREE YEARS TO UPDATE THESE PLANS.
11:21:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS
CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LISTEN TO THE CAC, THAT
THE CAC DID AFFIRMATIVELY APPROVE THESE.
IF IT WAS CLOSE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW.
IF IT WAS MAJORITY OR UNANIMOUS -- WERE YOU AT THOSE
MEETINGS?
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW?

11:21:58AM >>COURTNEY ORR:
CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
I WOULD LIKE TO PREFACE THAT THE CAC AND THE COMMUNITY
WORKED WITH THE CONSULTANT TO BUILD THE UPDATE.
SO IT WASN'T THE CONSULT WORKING IN A SILO, NOT TAKING IN
THE CONSIDERATIONS OF THE CAC.
THEY SUPPORTED THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE OUTCOME BECAUSE
THEY PARTICIPATED HAND IN HAND.
11:22:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE VOTES WERE?
11:22:24AM >>COURTNEY ORR:
I CAN'T RECALL A PARTICULAR VOTE.
LIKE I SAID, WE MOVED IT FORWARD WITH THEIR SUPPORT, THEIR
INPUT --
11:22:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN EACH OF THE CASES, THE CAC VOTED FOR
THEM, RIGHT?
11:22:37AM >>COURTNEY ORR:
YES, FOR SURE.
11:22:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOR THE RECORD, ANYBODY WATCHING WHO HAS
CONCERNS, WOULD KNOW THEIR REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY
VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT.
IF THERE ARE LINGERING CONCERNS, FOLKS CAN COME TALK TO US
AND MAYBE MODIFY THEM ALONG THE WAY.
THANK YOU.
11:22:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THERE IS A WAY WE
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IN THE CHAMBER TO NOT HAVE CONVERSATIONS
AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS IN THE HALL.
I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON DID.

THIS IS SIMPLY -- WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THESE SITTING AS
CRA BOARD, CORRECT?
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SAID THAT, TOO.
11:23:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU GIVE ME A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:23:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO CLOSE ITEM 61.
11:23:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM 62.
11:23:47AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDED AND REVISED AND
RESTATED COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
RIVERFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
IT WAS HEARD AND APPROVED BY THE CAC.
IT WAS REVIEWED FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES BY THE PLANNING
COMMISSION AND APPROVED BY THEM AS WELL.
AND THEN HAS BEEN APPROVED BY YOU ALL SITTING AS THE CRA
BOARD.
THIS IS THE FINAL ACT FOR THE APPROVAL OF IT.

THESE PLANS MUST BE ADOPTED IN YOUR ROLE AT CITY COUNCIL.
11:24:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
HEARING NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
MOTION TO CLOSE, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION,
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM 63.
11:24:45AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDED AND
RESTATED FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE OLDEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE LAST TIME IT WAS AMENDED IN ANY COMPREHENSIVE FASHION
WAS 1988.
AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CAC FOR
DOWNTOWN.

IT'S BEEN REVIEWED FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES BY THE PLANNING
COMMISSION, APPROVED BY YOU ALL SITTING AS THE CRA BOARD.
AND THIS IS THE FINAL STEP IN THE PROCESS.
11:25:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 63?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR
63.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM 64.
11:25:42AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
PRESENTING FILE VAC-24-13.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AND THIS IS AN AMENDING ORDINANCE TO AMEND A
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED VACATING ORDINANCE.
THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE HAD SPECIAL CONDITION FROM THE WATER
DEPARTMENT FOR THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION.
THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TODAY, TO AMEND THAT AND TO

EXTEND THAT CONDITION.
I DO HAVE THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION AVAILABLE, BUT I WON'T
PRESENT IT UNLESS COUNCIL NEEDS THAT.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:26:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
11:26:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT ON WHAT ROSS MENTIONED, THIS COUNCIL
VACATED A RIGHT-OF-WAY IN EAST YBOR LAST YEAR IN SERVICE OF
A NEW WASTE MANAGEMENT MODERN RECYCLING FACILITY.
WE HAD A ONE-YEAR DEADLINE TO DESIGN, PERMIT, AND RELOCATE A
WATER MAIN FACILITY FOR THE CITY AT OUR OWN EXPENSE.
HINDSIGHT, MAYBE A TOUCH OPTIMISTIC.
WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR 18 MONTH EXTENSION.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T STARTED.
WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
THEY DON'T OBJECT TO THE EXTENSION.
WE'RE 30% CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER.
NOT ANYONE'S FAULT.
COMPLICATED THINGS TAKE TIME.
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
NOT AWARE OF OBJECTIONS.
WE HAVE EXPERTS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

11:27:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO
THE ITEM?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ ANYTHING YET.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
I'M GOING TO START SKIPPING PAST THAT COMPLETELY.
WE ARE CLOSED.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:27:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
AMENDING ORDINANCE 2024-95, PASSED AND ORDAINED ON SEPTEMBER
19, 2024, WHICH VACATED, CLOSED, DISCONTINUED, AND ABANDONED
THAT PORTION OF 4th AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BELOW TO EXTEND THE ONE-YEAR
REQUIREMENT TO SATISFY THE WATER SERVICE SPECIAL CONDITIONS
BY 18 MONTHS, REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:27:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
-- MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
11:28:12AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH SECOND READING
AND ADOPTION HELD ON SEPTEMBER 18, 2025 AT 10:00 A.M. IN
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD
FLOOR, TAMPA FLORIDA, 33602.
11:28:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 65.
11:28:29AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
PRESENTING FILE VAC-25-16.
THIS IS A CITY INITIATED VACATING REQUEST.
THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 4902 EAST WHITEWAY DRIVE.
THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS TO VACATE A PORTION OF
ALCOLU AVENUE LYING NORTH OF WHITEWAY DRIVE, SOUTH OF --
STREET, EAST OF 48th STREET, AND WEST OF 50th STREET.
THE APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA MARCH 11,
2025.
RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED.
RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 12,500 SQUARE
FEET.
THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST IS FOR THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF
FIRE STATION 24.
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE LOCATION.
THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW.
CITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES IN RED.

AND THEN GRECO PARK TO THE NORTH.
HERE IS A CLIP OF THE SURVEY PROVIDED.
AGAIN, AREA IN RED HERE IS PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
AGAIN, PARCELS, CITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY HERE AND HERE.
YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE STILL AVAILABLE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE
NORTH, LIBERTY STREET, STILL PLATTED AND STILL AVAILABLE.
THIS WAS WHERE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS DEDICATED FOR PLAT.
AGAIN, RED IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
THIS IS AN IMAGE LOOKING NORTH FROM EAST WHITEWAY DRIVE,
APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
NOTICE THE STORMWATER DITCH HERE.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST.
EASEMENT RESERVATION IS REQUIRED BY STORMWATER.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES, COMPLY WITH CHAPTER
27 REGARD TO TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN FOR ANY
IMPROVEMENTS, ADJACENT TO TREES IN VACATED AREA.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:30:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 65?
IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WE'RE CLOSED.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:31:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NUMBER 65, FILE VAC-25-16, AN ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING
AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF ALCOLU AVENUE THAT IS LOCATED
NORTH OF WHITEWAY DRIVE, SOUTH OF LIBERTY STREET, EAST OF
48th STREET, AND WEST OF 50th STREET WITHIN THE REVISED
PLAT OF TERRACE PARK UNIT 5 SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND
REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:31:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:32:02AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 18,

2025, AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:32:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
WE HAVE ORDINANCE AFTER 1:30.
DO YOU WANT TO KNOCK OUT A COUPLE OF STAFF REPORTS?
WE CAN GO RIGHT INTO 66?
LET'S GO INTO 66.
11:32:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE A BUDGET MEETING WITH SOMEONE AT 12:30.
OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN GO UNTIL WHENEVER.
11:32:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T THINK WE'LL GO THAT LONG.
I ASSUME WE'LL BREAK RIGHT AT 12:30.
66.
11:33:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAYBE WE CAN GO TO 67 BECAUSE THAT'S MR.
SHELBY.
11:33:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU PREPARED TO PRESENT
FOR ITEM 67?
11:33:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
THE FEE ORDINANCE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
IT IS HERE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
YOU GENERALLY TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR FIRST READINGS NOW IF
YOU WISH.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT IS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR DIRECTION.
11:33:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO 67?
HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION TO MOVE -- SORRY, READ THE ORDINANCE.
11:33:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SEE HOME RULE WRITTEN IN HERE.
REMEMBER THOSE DAYS?
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE
2025 CITY OF TAMPA CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY COMMISSION, IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA HOME RULE CHARTER OF 1975
AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.10, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:34:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:34:21AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 18,
2025 AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.

11:34:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
I SEE THAT STAFF IS HERE FOR 66 NOW.
11:34:40AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I APOLOGIZE.
11:34:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S OKAY.
WE'RE MOVING.
11:34:45AM >> CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I HAVE A FEW SLIDES IN ORDER TO EXPLAIN THIS MATTER.
CATCH MY BREATH.
FILE E2025-8 IS AN ORDINANCE REGARDING PROPOSED CHANGES TO
CHAPTER 9 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE WHICH IS REGARDING CODE
ENFORCEMENT.
CODE SECTION 9-2 IS REGARDING DEFINITIONS.
THESE ARE THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
THEY ARE UNDERLINED THAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING TO CHANGE IN
THE CODE, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE FIRST POINT, THE
ADDITION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATES TO BE --
FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BE ALLOWED TO ENGAGE
OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO BE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
MAGISTRATES.
THIS CHANGE IS PROPOSED FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
FIRST, AS CITY COUNCIL IS AWARE OR RECALL, CITY COUNCIL
RECOGNIZED THE VOLUNTEER CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
MAGISTRATES THAT THE CITY HAD FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AT ONE POINT, THE VOLUNTEERS WENT DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY TWO

VOLUNTEERS.
THERE WERE ACTUALLY SOME OCCASIONS THAT SOME OF THE
VOLUNTEERS WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO CONDUCT THE CODE
ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS.
AS A RESULT, SOME HEARINGS WERE CANCELED.
CANCELED HEARINGS CREATES A BACKLOG OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT
CASES.
SO THAT'S REASON NUMBER ONE.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAS BEEN SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE
COST ASSOCIATED WITH HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR CODE
ENFORCEMENT MATTERS.
JUST SO THE CITY IS AWARE, THERE WAS ALREADY A COST
ASSOCIATED WITH HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT
SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
WE HAD AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL AT CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS IN
ORDER TO PROVIDE ADVICE TO THE VOLUNTEER SPECIAL
MAGISTRATES.
THERE WAS ALREADY THAT COST ALREADY IN EXISTENCE FOR THE
CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARINGS.
FINALLY, THIS CHANGE FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
MAGISTRATE IS PROPOSED BECAUSE THE CITY HAD A FEW CASES THAT
WERE APPEALED TO CIRCUIT COURT REGARDING MATTERS THAT WERE
HEARD BY OUR VOLUNTEER CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATES.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THOSE APPELLATE CASES, THERE WERE SOME
RULINGS THAT THE ORDERS FROM THE VOLUNTEER CODE ENFORCEMENT

SPECIAL MAGISTRATES WERE NOT SUFFICIENT.
CURRENTLY, THE LAW FIRM THAT IS USED FOR THE CODE
ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THEY PROVIDE ALL OF THE
ORDERS.
THEY PROVIDE THEM.
THEY PROVIDE COMPLETE DETAILS OF FINDINGS OF FACT, AND THE
CITY IS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ORDERS THAT THE LAW FIRM
PROVIDES REGARDING THIS MATTER.
AS STATED, THE PROVISION REGARDING THE PROPOSED CHANGE FOR
REPEAT VIOLATION MIRRORS THE FLORIDA STATUTE AND WE'RE
TRYING TO AMEND THE CODE IN ORDER TO MEET THE FLORIDA
STATUTE.
CODE SECTION 9-6, SPECIAL SETTLEMENT FOR LIENS, THE CITY IS
TRYING TO UPDATE THIS CODE SECTION.
CURRENTLY, THE PROVISION THAT'S IN THE CODE IS OUTDATED, AND
THIS PROCESS IS NOT FOLLOWED.
SECTION 9-6, SPECIAL SETTLEMENTS FOR LIENS IS ONLY
APPLICABLE WHEN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE
LOSES JURISDICTION TO HEAR FINE REDUCTION REQUESTS.
THIS PROPOSED REVISION REMOVES A PROCESS THAT THE -- THAT
DOES NOT EXIST.
CURRENTLY, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT PROVIDES SETTLEMENT OFFERS
FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS BASED UPON THE CITY'S ADOPTED
POLICIES.
APPOINTED CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I LUMPED IN

THE TWO CODE SECTION AMENDMENT CHANGES THAT THE CITY IS
TRYING TO CHANGE.
IT'S CODE SECTION 9-104 AND CODE SECTION 9-105.
THE CITY IS RECOMMENDING THAT THESE CHANGES ONLY APPLY TO
THOSE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATES WHO ARE
APPOINTED.
9-110, ADMINISTRATIVE FINES, THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT MIRRORS
THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS JUST PASSED IN 2025.
THIS LEGISLATION AMENDED CODE SECTION 162.09 OF FLORIDA
STATUTE TO ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE IN PENALTY FOR DEMOLITION
OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
LASTLY, CODE SECTION 9-111 AND CODE SECTION 9-114, THE CITY
IS RECOMMENDING AN INCREASE IN THE TIMELINE IN WHICH A
RESPONDENT CAN RESPOND TO THOSE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:40:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:40:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO GO BACK TO 20% OF THE VALUE OF
SOMETHING.
PROPERTY COULD BE WORTH 100,000 OR 200,000.
GO UP TO 20% UP THAT, 200,000, 40,000.
11:40:26AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
THAT IS WHAT THE INTENTION OF THIS
STATUTE IS, YES.
THAT'S IN THE FLORIDA STATUTE.
11:40:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THE 20%?

11:40:38AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION
TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WOULD
MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
11:40:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, NO.
I'M SAYING HOW DO -- IF THE VALUE OF SOMETHING IS SOMETHING,
HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THE 20%, BASED ON WHAT WE THINK THAT
THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS --
11:40:54AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
I'M SORRY?
11:40:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IN OTHER WORDS.
I'M USING A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION.
IF THE VALUE OF AN ENTITY IS 400,000, OKAY, AND WE'RE SAYING
THAT WE CAN PLACE, EXCEED -- MAY NOT EXCEED 20%, GO UP TO
20% OF THE VALUE OF THE 400,000.
11:41:15AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
RIGHT.
11:41:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT IS THE VALUE OF 20% TO 400,000?
11:41:21AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE SPECIAL
MAGISTRATE TO DECIDE.
11:41:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
ALSO, 20% OF THAT IS 80,000.
WE CAN GO UP TO 80,000 OF THE VALUE OF SOMETHING FOR THE
FEES, I GUESS FROM THE FEES, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I'M NOT
SURE.
11:41:38AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
IT IS NOT THE FEES FOR THE SPECIAL
MAGISTRATE.
PENALTY ASSESSED FOR DEMOLISHING HISTORIC PROPERTY.

11:41:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT THAT I KNOW VALUE -- [INAUDIBLE] --
THE 20% SEEMS KIND OF HIGH TO ME OF ANYTHING.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
11:41:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S STATUTE, THOUGH.
THAT'S COMING FROM FLORIDA.
11:41:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND.
11:41:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THE
OPPOSITE.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO TEAR DOWN AN HISTORIC STRUCTURE, YOU
SHOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO PAY MORE THAN 20%.
I ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE GOTTEN IN THE PUBLIC
REGARDING THAT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE STICKING TO STATUTE.
11:42:17AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
RIGHT.
11:42:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FLORIDA STATUTE ON THAT.
MY OTHER QUESTION, I DO HAVE FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC WHO WE GOT
AN E-MAIL THIS MORNING.
IT SEEMS LIKE YBOR IN PARTICULAR IS REALLY INTERESTED IN
THESE AND FOLKS HAD REQUESTED THAT THIS BE A WORKSHOP
INSTEAD OF JUST AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE FOLKS DIDN'T KNOW THIS
WAS COMING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD MAYBE -- THE
COMMENTS I'VE GOTTEN ARE FROM YBOR HEIGHTS AND VM YBOR.
IF THERE IS A WAY THAT MAYBE WE COULD DO A MEETING WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOODS TO ASK ABOUT THESE, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE

AREAS THAT REALLY HAVE THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES, THAT THEY
ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY WAS
THE REASONING OR WHY YOU CHOSE TO MOTION TO SEE AN EXECUTIVE
ORDER INSTEAD OF JUST SPELLING OUT THE POLICY ITSELF IN THE
ORDINANCE, WHICH DOES MAKE SENSE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE STRONGER IF INSTEAD OF
REFERENCING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, YOU SIMPLY TOOK THAT
LANGUAGE AND PUT IT INTO THE ORDINANCE.
I DID WANT TO GET AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
11:43:35AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
SO AS I'M HERE TODAY TO MAKE
CHANGES TO CHAPTER 9, THERE IS A PROCESS IN ORDER TO CHANGE
THE PROVISION OF THE CODE.
HAVING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR SETTLEMENT OF CODE
ENFORCEMENT LIENS IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
IN ORDER FOR AMENDMENTS TO BE MADE QUICKER AND EASIER, BASED
UPON WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY OR IF THERE IS A
MATTER THAT COULD BE QUICKLY CHANGED THROUGH AN AMENDMENT OF
THE POLICY, THAT IS WHY IT IS NOT IN THE CODE.
OTHERWISE, IF WE PUT IT IN THE CODE, IT'S A MORE -- IT'S A
MORE DRAWN OUT PROCESS IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE CODE FOR A
QUICK AMENDMENT TO A POLICY OR CONCERN WE WOULD HAVE FOR
SETTLEMENT OF A LIEN.
THAT'S WHY IT IS NOT IN THE CODE.
11:44:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE ARE THE ONES THAT

WOULD CHANGE POLICY.
EXECUTIVE ORDER SHOULDN'T BE CHANGING POLICY.
11:44:35AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
SO THERE IS A CHARTER PROVISION
REGARDING THE AUTHORITY TO DO EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
AND THAT IS IN THE CHARTER.
MR. SHELBY IS NOT HERE, BUT THAT IS IN THE CHARTER FOR
EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO BE EXECUTED BY THE MAYOR REGARDING
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT IN THE CODE.
11:44:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN.
I WOULD PREFER -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS -- I WOULD LIKE
TO SEE THE POLICY OR THE EXECUTIVE ORDER LANGUAGE GO INTO
THE POLICY IF THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
I'M JUST REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH EXECUTIVE ORDER CHANGE IN
POLICY -- THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS
SOMETHING WE CAN DO, THE MAYOR CAN DO AT ANY TIME WHEN
REALLY POLICY SHOULDN'T BE CHANGING ON A DIME.
I'M CONCERNED BY THAT.
11:45:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THE CLARIFICATION IS WE CAN
CONTROL, SO IF IT'S NOT COVERED BY ORDINANCES PASSED BY THE
CITY COUNCIL, IF IT IS NOT COVERED BY ORDINANCES BY CITY
COUNCIL, THEN THE ADMINISTRATION RUNNING THE CITY, THE MAYOR
HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE --
11:45:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, IT SHOULD BE AN ORDINANCE AND NOT

REFERENCING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:45:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:45:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE WITH YOU, WITH COUNCIL
MEMBER HURTAK THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS AND HAVE A NEW
FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU CAME TO EXACTLY THE SAME
CONCLUSION I DID, WHICH IS WHY ARE THERE SO MANY REFERENCES
TO EXECUTIVE ORDER IN HERE?
11:46:15AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIR,
THERE'S ONLY ONE REFERENCE.
IT IS JUST IN THE SETTLEMENT.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
IT'S NOT THROUGHOUT -- IT'S NOT THROUGHOUT THE ORDINANCE.
11:46:23AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE IT ON MY PHONE.
I CAN'T SEARCH IT.
THAT SAME SECTION, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DELEGATING CITY
COUNCIL'S POWER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
REMEMBER, THE WHOLE THING WHERE WE FOUND OUT THE CITY
ATTORNEY SINCE 2018 WAS APPROVING SETTLEMENTS WITHOUT OUR
APPROVAL BECAUSE OF A CITY ATTORNEY'S TWO-PARAGRAPH.
WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE DELEGATING THIS.
I HAVE NOT HEARD COMPLAINTS OUT OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.
THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS THAT THE
WAIVER OF LIENS WAS ARBITRARY.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S HANDLED CORRECTLY.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE DELEGATING TO THE MAYOR AND
DELEGATING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS.
IF IT COMES UP TODAY, I'LL VOTE NO.
BUT I HOPE WE'LL CHANGE THIS AND ADDRESS IT.
I DON'T THINK THAT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD -- THE PERCEPTION IS
THAT CITY COUNCIL AS WE COMPARE TO THE MAYOR, WE'RE ONLY
WEAK BECAUSE WE DELEGATE THE POWERS WE ALREADY HAVE TO THE
ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
11:47:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY IS FIRST READING
OF AN ORDINANCE.
CHOICE TO ADOPT THIS, CONTINUE THIS.
WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS OF COUNCIL, MR. SHELBY?
11:47:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, CONTINUANCE IS ALWAYS
IN ORDER.
SECONDLY, YOU CAN MOVE THIS ON TO SECOND READING, AND IF
THERE ARE CHANGES TO BE MADE, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO
FIRST READING.
IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
IF COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, TAKE A LOOK AT IT OR HAVE
A DISCUSSION OFF-LINE, YOU HAVE A CHOICE.
YOU CAN CONTINUE IT OR YOU CAN READ IT BY TITLE ONLY ON
FIRST READING.
11:47:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD PREFER TO CONTINUE THIS BECAUSE,
AGAIN, THE FOLKS WHO SENT DETAILED COMMENTS HAVE CONCERNS,

AND THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT OFTEN HAVE CODE COMPLAINTS.
SO I WOULD PREFER THAT THEY UNDERSTAND IT BEFORE WE PASS IT.
BECAUSE AFTER READING IT, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO FULLY
UNDERSTAND IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ENOUGH TIME TO DO IT BY OCTOBER 9.
11:48:33AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE, FOR THE
RECORD, FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED OF WHAT DIRECTION CITY COUNCIL IS
ASKING.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
11:48:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL TRY TO SUM IT UP.
WHAT I'M HEARING, THERE WAS CONCERN FROM TWO COUNCILPERSONS
ABOUT ISSUES PERTAINING TO THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS MAYBE IT WOULD BE BEST THAT WE
CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO RESOLVE THOSE CONCERNS AND BRING IT
BACK AT ANOTHER DATE.
NOW, WHETHER THAT IS THE WILL, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO VOTE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL.
11:49:06AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
WHAT ARE THOSE CONCERNS?
I HEAR ONE ISSUE ABOUT AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:49:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THOSE CONCERNS -- IF THERE ARE
THOSE CONCERNS --
11:49:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN FORWARD THE E-MAILS I'VE GOTTEN FROM
THE COMMUNITY AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
LITERALLY I GOT ONE AT 12:30 THIS MORNING.

I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO FULLY GO THROUGH IT.
BUT THE FACT THAT FOLKS ARE ASKING US, WE DON'T GENERALLY
GET THIS IN-DEPTH OF QUESTIONS.
I'M GOING TO MOTION TO CONTINUE IT AND I'M HAPPY TO REACH
OUT AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WORK WITH YOU, TRY TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.
I MOTION TO MOVE IT TO WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME, WHICH IS
NOVEMBER 6.
11:49:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT MOTION IS IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THIS
FOR THE COMFORT OF COUNCIL.
WE'LL SEE IF THIS PASSES OR NOT AND THEN HAVE FURTHER
DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO NOVEMBER 6 FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:50:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANY -- I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT AS A PROFESSIONAL
COURTESY.
IS THERE ANY PREJUDICE SUFFERED OR SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES BY
CONTINUING IT TO THIS TIME?
I WOULD IMAGINE NOT.
11:50:19AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WE'RE CONTINUING
OUR PROCESS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS AS USUAL.
11:50:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I SUPPORT AS A COURTESY.

11:50:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO
NOVEMBER 6.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM IS CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 6.
11:50:47AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE ONE MORE STATEMENT --
11:50:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE DO IT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
THAT FINISHES THAT PORTION OF THE BUSINESS TODAY.
STAFF REPORTS.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE ITEM 69 WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT?
69 AND 74.
MR. ROGERO.
THIS IS THE SEASON OF DENNIS ROGERO.
11:51:25AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MY CUP RUNNETH OVER.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 69, AMENDED AND RESTATED REIMBURSEMENT
RESOLUTION FOR VARIOUS NON-AD VALOREM PROJECTS.
THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION, OF COURSE, IS IN THE PACKAGE.
VARIOUS ITERATIONS.
AND WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST A SUMMATION,
ITEMIZING THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PREVIOUSLY

APPROVED THROUGH RESOLUTIONS.
AND WHEN APPLICABLE, ALSO PROVIDED COUNCIL THE AMOUNT OF
DEBT FINANCING THAT COUNCIL HAS HAD APPROVED.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE NEW PROJECTS BEFORE YOU FOR
APPROVAL TODAY.
WE HAVE THE BRIEF PowerPoint PRESENTATION THAT WE
PROVIDED, READY TO GO, IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:52:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, YOU CAN
KIND OF GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY.
WE HAVE ALL SEEN THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DWELL ON IT.
I THINK PROBABLY MORE QUESTIONS.
11:52:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAINLY A LIST OF PROJECTS.
11:52:43AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, THAT'S THE PowerPoint.
IF I COULD HAVE THE PROJECT UP, PLEASE.
BEFORE I GO THROUGH THE PROJECT, AGAIN, I WANT TO BE VERY
CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE ANY DEBT
ISSUANCES TODAY.
THIS MERELY APPROVES THE ABILITY OR APPROVES US TO GO
FORWARD AND START SPENDING MONEY ON PROJECTS THAT
CONCEIVABLY WILL BE FUNDED FROM DEBT FINANCING.
I ALSO, HOWEVER, WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT IF PERMISSION IS
GIVEN TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS AND WE START SPENDING
MONEY, IT WILL HAVE TO BE PAID FOR FROM SOMEPLACE.
THANK YOU IN THE BACK FOR PUTTING THE PRESENTATION UP.

AS I STATED BEFORE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS AND PROJECTS.
YOU SEE THEM HERE.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.
AGAIN, THE CENTER COLUMN IS THE REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE.
TO THE RIGHT, AGAIN, WHEN APPLICABLE, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING,
DEBT FINANCING, EXCUSE ME, THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED.
YOU CAN SEE -- THESE WERE APPROVED OCTOBER 22 OF 2022.
AND THE PROJECTS CONTINUE.
THE INITIAL RESOLUTION WAS NOT TO EXCEED.
$80 MILLION.
I HAVE MORE SLIDES ON THIS.
THIS IS SIMPLY THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION.
BEFORE I CONTINUE MOVING, AND I'LL USE PUBLIC SAFETY
TRAINING FACILITIES AS AN EXAMPLE.
I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR AGAIN THAT JUST BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS
APPROVED DEBT FINANCING ON THE RIGHT THERE DOES NOT
NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WILL BE THE ONLY TIME WE COME TO YOU
FOR FINANCING FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT.
THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITIES, FOR INSTANCE, THE
REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE IS 13 MILLION AS APPROVED BY COUNCIL
IN 2022.
WE SIMPLY FINANCED THE DESIGN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO THERE WILL BE I ANTICIPATE FORTHCOMING REQUESTS FOR
BONDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING

FACILITIES, FOR EXAMPLE.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DATE.
THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND CONVENTION CENTER.
THE VARIOUS GENERAL GOVERNMENT PROJECTS.
AGAIN, APPROVED IN 2022 AND RECENTLY FINANCED A COUPLE OF
MONTHS AGO.
MOVING INTO REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION FROM 2024, WE EXPANDED
UPON THE FIRE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY FACILITY AND THE FIRE
STATION NUMBER 24.
INCREASING THE REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE AS WE CONTINUED WITH
THESE PROJECTS AND THEIR PROJECTIONS AND YOU SEE WE ISSUED
JUST UNDER $8 MILLION OF BOND FINANCING.
AGAIN, A GRAPHIC DEPICTION OF THE 80 MILLION PLUS 50
MILLION, 130 MILLION.
YOU SEE HOW THEY HAVE BEEN SUBDIVIDED.
THAT WAS THE PAST.
THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED TO DATE.
AND NOW YOU HAVE THE NEW REQUEST BEFORE YOU.
AND HERE THEY ARE.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROJECTS AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION
PROJECTS.
THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT PROJECTS AND CONVENTION CENTER,
YOU'LL NOTE THAT ALL OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT PROJECTS ARE
GRANT MATCHES.
AND THE NEW PROJECT TOTAL, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE $105 MILLION

TOTAL.
AND THEN WE COMBINE THEM SO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC HAS ONE
COMPLETE VIEW OF WHAT WE'VE APPROVED SO FAR AND WHAT WE'RE
ASKING FOR TODAY.
130 MILLION, 105 MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF 235 MILLION.
AND A GRAPHIC DEPICTION OF SAME OF THE TOTAL SO FAR.
11:57:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:57:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, NO.
WHEN HE'S FINISHED.
11:57:09AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AND THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION,
COUNCIL.
CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.
IF I DON'T KNOW AN ANSWER, I CAN FIND OUT.
11:57:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY QUESTION WAS, AND I MENTIONED IT AT THE LAST MEETING
ABOUT THE CIT RENEWAL AND THE AMOUNT WE HAVE ALLOCATED FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND THE CIT ON.
I KNOW THAT IN HERE, YOU HAVE THE HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX AND
THE FORENSICS BUILDING WHICH WE ESTIMATE COULD BE AROUND $40
MILLION.
I KNOW THAT THE NUMBER SHOWN HERE WAS $5 MILLION, I BELIEVE.
MY QUESTION IS -- I'M SORRY, 4 MILLION AND REIMBURSEMENT
ESTIMATE 5.3 MILLION.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT LOOKING FORWARD THAT, IF WE
CAN, WE SHOULD UTILIZE SOME OF THE CIT MONEY TOWARDS THIS

BECAUSE I KNOW WE'LL BE BONDING A LOT AND THIS IS JUST THE
BEGINNING OF WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS GOING TO BE IF IT
DOESN'T GO UP BECAUSE THIS IS TAMPA.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE CIT TOWARDS THAT IN
ORDER TO NOT HAVE TO BOND SO MUCH AND SAVE MONEY ON
INTEREST.
I SPOKE TO -- SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, I SPOKE TO SEVERAL
MAYORS FROM THE PAST ASKING HOW THEY FUNDED PROJECTS.
AND THEY WERE IN AGREEANCE.
THE CIT HAS BEEN USED FOR PLENTY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
THIS FALLS UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY.
I'M TRYING TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
11:58:41AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I CAN COMMENT A LITTLE BIT TO THAT AND
ELABORATE.
OF COURSE, AS COUNCIL KNOWS AND MAYBE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
DON'T, THE CIT VERSION TWO IS GOING TO BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
OVER A 15-YEAR PERIOD.
GET SOMEWHAT OF A SLOW START, THOUGH, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO
INTO EFFECT UNTIL DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED, AT LEAST PRELIMINARILY, WHAT THE INITIAL
FUNDING WILL BE SPENT ON.
IT'S IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

THIS, I THINK, WILL BE A VERY, VERY GOOD NEXUS.
AS WE, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DECIDE WHAT EXACTLY TO
SPEND THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX MONEY ON, AND AS WE GO
FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE PACE OF THESE PROJECTS AND WHEN THE
FUNDING WILL BE NEEDED, AND IF THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION
IS APPROVED, IT'S ALL ABOUT FLEXIBILITY.
IT'S ALL ABOUT PROVIDING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FLEXIBILITY
AS TO WHAT WE FUND THE PROJECTS WITH.
RUN, WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF QUITE THE PROCESS WHEN IT
COMES TO PROJECTS BEING APPROVED AND COMPLETED AND THE
INFLUX OF FUNDING THAT THE CIT WILL GIVE US.
I THINK THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF FLEXIBILITY, BUT IT WILL
ENTAIL FUTURE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL.
12:00:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
YOU'RE RIGHT, FUTURE DISCUSSIONS.
I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO HUMBLE
OURSELVES NOW, AND FUTURE COUNCILS AND FUTURE MAYOR, MAYORS
IN DOING THE RIGHT THING.
BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF EGO IN POLITICS.
A LOT OF BIG LEGACY PROJECTS, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS.
YOU SHOWED THE LIST.
WE HAVE FIRE NEEDS.
WE HAVE POLICE NEEDS.
WE HAVE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

JUST DO THE RIGHT THING.
THE CIT IS A BLESSING.
IN THIS POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT WHEN THINGS ARE KILLED AT THE
BALLOT BOX, CIT RENEWAL, 15-YEAR EXTRA LIFE LINE WILL SAVE
US A LOT OF MONEY.
WE HAVE TRIPLE A BOND RATINGS, WE HAVE SO MUCH TO BE PROUD
OF.
IN THIS VOLATILE, FINANCIAL ENVIRONMENT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT
IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMY WILL LOOK LIKE.
THINGS ARE GOOD NOW.
THE STOCK MARKET IS UP.
INTEREST RATES MIGHT BE COMING DOWN.
MY PHONE IS BREAKING NEWS EVERY DAY AND ALL DAY LONG.
NOTHING IS CERTAIN.
SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK AT THE NEXT 15, 16, 17 YEARS
AND FUTURE LEADERSHIP THAT GETS ELECTED, HUMBLE YOURSELVES
IN DOING WHAT IS NECESSARY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NECESSARY PROJECTS HERE BUT VERY EASY FOR A
POLITICIAN TO GO OFF THE RAILS AND SAY I WANT TO DO
SOMETHING -- IT'S NOT ABOUT DOING SOMETHING BIG AND
IMPACTFUL.
IT'S WHAT IS RIGHT AND NECESSARY.
WANTS AND NEEDS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS, PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

STORMWATER FOLKS ARE HERE.
WE'RE MAKING THOSE INVESTMENTS.
THAT'S WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY.
THANK YOU.
12:01:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:01:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF WE APPROVE IN THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF,
IF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES ALL THE DEBT THAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING, WE'RE GOING TO THROW THE NEXT
CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION INTO A DEBT CRISIS.
JUST TO PREFACE WHATEVER NASTY E-MAIL THE ADMINISTRATION
WANTS TO SEND, I'VE TALKED TO OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES,
TALKED TO EXPERTS ON FINANCING.
WHEN PEOPLE FIND OUT THE DEBT OF THE CITY, THEY ARE APPALLED
BY IT.
RATINGS ARE HIGH FOR NOW.
FOR SEVERAL FACTORS.
BUT WE'RE ON THE PRECIPICE OF CHANGING THAT.
IF WE ADD THE SIX OR EIGHT HUNDRED MILLION WHATEVER MORE
DEBT THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE NEXT
ADMINISTRATION, NEXT CITY COUNCIL IN A CRISIS.
KEEP IN MIND AT THE CURRENT RATES, OUR CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE PAYING FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS, 80 TO
100 PERCENT OF THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST JUST SO WE CAN
RUSH SOME PROJECTS NOW.
THE POINT IS WE'VE GOT TO START SAYING NO.

NEXT CITY COUNCIL, NEXT ADMINISTRATION, EITHER FORCED TO
RAISE TAXES OR GO INTO AUSTERITY MODE LIKE PAM IORIO DID IN
THE GREAT RECESSION.
CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
DON'T WANT US TO LAY OFF HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SO WE CAN PAY
FOR THE INTEREST THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION SPENT.
WE'VE GOT TO PUT AUSTERITY MEASURES IN NOW.
WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMY WILL DO.
WE KNOW THAT FLOODS AND OTHER THINGS HAVE HAD AN IMPACT ON
TAXES.
WE NEED TO DO SENSITIVITY.
WE CAN'T COMPLETELY MAX OUT THE CREDIT CARDS OVER THE NEXT
YEAR AND A HALF.
WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT, YET, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE NEED TO STOP
IT.
AND THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE NICE TO HAVE THAT WE
SHOULDN'T INCLUDE.
AN EXAMPLE IS THE WEST RIVERWALK.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE ASHLEY STREET PROJECT.
THESE FIRE STATION PROJECTS I THINK ARE ESSENTIAL, AND THERE
ARE A FEW THAT ARE STILL ON HERE THAT NEED TO BE APPROVED.
AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, MS. BLUMA HAS SAID BEFORE, I
THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE THESE ONE BY ONE, IF THE ONLY CHOICE
-- I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY GO BACK AND JUST PASS A
RESOLUTION, CREATE NEW RESOLUTIONS TO ADD THESE ONE BY ONE

TO THE EXISTING LIST.
BUT THE WAY THE RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN NOW, IT RESTATES THE
ORIGINAL PROJECTS AND THEN IT ADDS THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS
AND THE IMPLICATION THERE IS THAT WE ARE REAFFIRMING THE OLD
PROJECTS, WHICH INCLUDE HANNA AVENUE AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT
I DON'T SUPPORT.
IF THOSE PROJECTS ARE STILL INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION, MY
VOTE TODAY IS GOING TO BE NO.
IF THEY COME BACK INDIVIDUALLY AND SAY WE WANT TO SUPPORT
THE FIRE STATIONS AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ESSENTIAL, MY
VOTE WILL BE YES.
THANK YOU.
12:04:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS NOT GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CIT
TAX, BUT SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, I GUESS I HAVE TO.
I HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR THE CIT TAX.
LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
IT GOES TO SOMEONE ELSE IN A MUCH LARGER NUMBER THAN IT GOES
TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THE TOTAL SUMS COLLECTED IN THE WHOLE COUNTY, CITY OF TAMPA,
AS SMALL AS IT IS COMPARED TO THE COUNTY, PUTS IN ABOUT 30%
OF THE TOTAL COLLECTION.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE GET BACK?
20%.
I'M JUST RUNNING IT OUT.
YOU CAN CORRECT ME ANYTIME YOU WANT, MR. ROGERO.

I DON'T GET UPSET WITH THAT.
IN FACT, I WELCOME THAT.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S FOR 15 YEARS.
THE OTHER SIDE FOR 15 YEARS GETS $850 MILLION.
WHAT DO WE GET?
I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO SOMEONE ELSE TO SAY.
I THINK IT'S LIKE 20 MILLION A YEAR, MAYBE.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'M TAKING A GUESS.
12:05:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT TO BEGIN.
12:05:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I TOOK A GUESS.
I'M NOT AS SMART AS ANYONE THINKS I AM ON THAT.
THAT'S 20 TIMES 15.
THEY GET 850 MILLION.
WHAT IS 20 TIMES 15?
THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL GET.
HOWEVER, IF THERE IS A SHORTFALL IN THE COLLECTION, NOTICE I
SAY WE BRING IN 30 AND WE ONLY COLLECT 20, IF THERE IS A
SHORTFALL IN THE COLLECTION, WE'RE GOING TO PAY 30.
ISN'T THAT NICE?
THAT WAS A REAL SMART MOVE FOR ALL OF US.
SO I DON'T WANT -- I'M NOT POUNDING MY CHEST.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE FACTS.
THE PUBLIC CAN BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF REALLY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BOND AND A LOAN?
IT'S THE SAME THING.
IN A WAY.
HOWEVER, YOU GO GET A LOAN FOR 4.4% ANYWHERE.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE BOND MARKET IS NOW.
I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE I'M NOT THAT SMART.
AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I'M NOT THAT SMART.
SO ANYBODY WANTS TO GET A LOAN FOR 4.4% IN THIS CITY OF
TAMPA LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I WANT TO GO THERE ALSO AT ANY
BANK.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU BOND.
BUT A BOND HAS A DIFFERENT FEEL OF THE WORD INSTEAD OF A
LOAN.
A LOAN IS A LITTLE BIT HARDER.
A BOND YOU THINK, OH, WE'RE GOING TO BOND TOGETHER, HAVE A
NICE TIME, GO TO THE FAIR AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
NO.
IT'S ABOUT MONEY.
BUT THE BONDING MARKET, IT IS THE MOST CONVENIENT WAY AND
LESS EXPENSIVE WAY FOR AN ENTITY OF THIS SIZE, GOVERNMENT OF
THIS SIZE, LARGE OR SMALLER, TO DO BUSINESS.
THEY ARE DOING THE TAXPAYER A SERVICE BY GETTING IT AT A
CHEAPER RATE.
YEAH, IT'S COSTLY TO GET THERE.

I'M NOT GOING TO DENY THAT.
SO THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BOND AND AN INTEREST
OTHER THAN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU'RE SPENDING ON
INTEREST.
THEREFORE, I'D RATHER BOND THAN GO BORROW AT THE BANK
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET 4.4% AT THE BANK.
IF YOU ARE, LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I WANT TO GO TO THAT BANK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME.
12:08:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:08:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CONFUSING ABOUT THIS IS
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRST PAGE, THE REIMBURSEMENT
RESOLUTION 2022-915 HAS THE HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX FORENSICS
BUILDING, THE REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE OF 5.3, AND WE PUT THE
4 MILLION OUT ALREADY, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE TOTAL OF
THAT IS GOING TO BE AROUND 40 MILLION.
AND THAT'S NOWHERE IN HERE IN TERMS OF FUTURE.
12:08:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.
THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS PART OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATION
FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, THE 40 ODD MILLION DOLLAR ITEM.
STILL UNAPPROVED, YES.
TO CLARIFY, YES, BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2022, THIS WAS THE
ENVISIONED REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE TO GO FORWARD AND START

SPENDING MONEY.
12:09:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS MISSING IS WE HAVE THE REIMBURSEMENT
ESTIMATE.
WE HAVE THE SERIES THAT WAS APPROVED THAT WE GOT THE BONDS,
GOT THE MONEY, WE PAID FORWARD IN THESE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW
THE TOTAL COSTS -- I MEAN, ON THIS CHART, DOESN'T SHOW US
THE TOTAL COST OF THESE PROJECTS AND HOW MUCH -- I MEAN, SO
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN ENCUMBERED, WHAT'S BEEN SPENT, LIKE
THE OVERAGES.
AND THAT'S, I THINK, ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS BECAUSE I SHARE
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON'S CONCERN, AND COUNCIL MEMBER
MANISCALCO'S CONCERN ABOUT BONDING.
I THINK THE CIT IS FINE, BUT WE CAN'T TAP THAT UNTIL 2026.
SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING, HOW DO WE BOND NOW, AND THEN WE
DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR HOWARD AVENUE FOR THIS BUILDING THAT IS
GOING TO BREAK GROUND PROBABLY -- I MEAN, IT SEEMS WITHIN
THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
BUT IN THIS REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION, IS WE HAVE
$48.7 MILLION FOR FIRE STATIONS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN START
LOOKING AT UNTIL WE HAVE STARTED AND BUILT THE FLEET AND
SUPPLY.
SO THIS IS THE PART -- I MEAN, WE ALL AGREE THESE PROJECTS
ARE IMPORTANT, BUT WHY WOULD WE PUT A REIMBURSEMENT
RESOLUTION FOR $48.7 MILLION RIGHT NOW FOR SOMETHING WE
AREN'T EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO START WHILE WE'RE HERE?

WE ALL AGREE THEY ARE IMPORTANT THINGS, BUT OUR TIME IN
OFFICE, MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO START.
AGAIN, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME WHY THE HOWARD AVENUE
FORENSICS BUILDING IS 5.7 MILLION -- 5.6 MILLION, AND GREAT,
THAT'S BEEN ABLE TO HELP THE BEGINNING OF IT.
THAT'S BEEN ABLE TO HELP THE DESIGN, THE ENGINEERING, ALL OF
THAT.
WHY AREN'T WE JUST DOING THAT FOR THESE PROJECTS?
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THEM,
BUT ALSO KNOWING WHERE WE ARE AND THE KIND OF MONEY WE HAVE,
WHY AREN'T WE PUTTING REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS FOR THOSE
BEGINNING ASPECTS?
12:11:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING.
CHAIR PRIVILEGE JUMPING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, RIGHT?
IT'S INTERESTING YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
HOWARD AVENUE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, THE ONLY THING THAT THIS COUNCIL IS
AUTHORIZED IS THE DESIGN, THE FOUR POINT WHATEVER MILLION
DOLLARS.
12:12:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
12:12:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REFERENCE THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'LL SEE
SHOVELS IN THE GROUND THERE, BETTER NOT BE SEEING SHOVELS IN
THE GROUND BECAUSE THE PROJECT HASN'T BEEN AUTHORIZED YET.
GOOD LUCK TRYING TO FIND MONEY WITHOUT COUNCIL'S APPROVAL TO
PAY FOR SOMETHING IF YOU START BUILDING IT.

I HOPE SOMEBODY IN THAT DEPARTMENT HAS REALLY LARGE
ENDOWMENT SOMEWHERE THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
ONE THING I APPRECIATE ABOUT THIS, THOUGH, ONE OF MY
FRUSTRATIONS, WE ASKED, I NEED TO KNOW IT A COUNCIL APPROVED
VOTE, WHEN I VOTE FOR SOMETHING, THAT THE INTENTION OF YOU
ALL TO DO THAT IS BONDING AND WHAT THE FULL COST IS.
ACTUALLY, I APPRECIATE THAT COMING TO US LIKE THIS.
INSTEAD OF TEENY PIECES.
12:12:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S NOT CONSISTENT.
THIS IS THE PART THAT CONFUSES ME IS IN THIS REIMBURSEMENT
RESOLUTION, WHY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD THAT
PROJECT TOO.
12:12:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.
LET ME PREFACE THIS BY SAYING I WANT COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC
TO HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THEY WANT.
FROM A PROJECT PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, I'LL USE THE HANNA AVENUE
ANNEX FORENSICS.
THIS, AGAIN, WAS ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO.
AND AT THAT TIME, IT WAS ENVISIONED THAT WE WOULD ONLY WANT
TO START SPENDING MONEY FOR, AS YOU SAID, MA'AM, DESIGN.
SO WE STARTED SPENDING MONEY FOR THE DESIGN AND THEN YOU SEE
IN JUNE, WE DID A BOND FINANCING ISSUANCE TO PAY US BACK,
AND THAT'S WHAT THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION IS FOR.
WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU AT THIS JUNCTURE, ALTHOUGH WE CAN IF
THAT'S COUNCIL'S WISH, WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU AT THIS

JUNCTURE TO ASK FOR ANY MORE APPROVALS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX.
THIS IS SIMPLY HISTORICAL.
NOW, IN THE DEBT PRESENTATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE JULY
BUDGET PRESENTATION, NOW, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT SOURCE.
WE HAVE LAID OUT WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE THE DEBT ISSUANCE
CALENDAR OR TIME FRAMES WITH THAT ISSUANCE, ONE, THAT ISSUE,
DEBT ISSUANCE TWO, DEBT ISSUANCE THREE BASED ON AT THIS TIME
WHAT FUNDING WILL BE NEEDED AND WHEN.
I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO OCTOBER OF 2022, BUT I CAN TELL YOU
WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL REIMBURSEMENT
RESOLUTION AUTHORITY FOR THE HOWARD ANNEX BECAUSE WE DON'T
ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ANY OF THAT MONEY YET FOR
SOME OF THE REASONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED.
DOES THAT CLARIFY?
12:14:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I NEED TO GET CLARIFICATION, TOO, ABOUT
THE PURPOSE OF THIS RESOLUTION.
WHY -- SO MUCH OF THIS PRESENTATION TODAY, THINGS COUNCIL
ALREADY AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED, WHETHER I LIKE SOME OF THAT
STUFF OR NOT, IT'S DONE.
ASKED AND ANSWERED.
WHY ARE THESE INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION?
WHY DON'T WE HAVE ANOTHER CLEAN RESOLUTION WITH JUST THE
ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES?
12:15:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AND WE CAN DO THAT.

THE CONCERN WAS THAT THAT WAS -- AND THESE ARE MY WORDS --
THAT THAT WAS PIECEMEALING THE OVERALL PICTURE OF WHAT WE
INTEND TO DO FROM A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION PERSPECTIVE.
12:15:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DO LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT DEBT
AND WHAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO TODAY IS VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT ENDS
UP PUTTING ME IN A POSITION TO VOTE NO BECAUSE I VOTED NO IN
ONE OF THE ISSUES INCLUDED IN THE FIRST DEBT ISSUANCE.
IN OTHER WORDS, I ALREADY VOTED NO ON A DEBT ISSUANCE
COUNCIL APPROVED, BUT WHEN THIS ROLLED TOGETHER, YOU FORCE
ME TO VOTE NO.
THE NEW STUFF, I WOULD VOTE YES.
12:15:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MAY I SUGGEST THAT IF -- BELIEVE IT OR NOT,
I VIEW THIS AS PROGRESS -- IF COUNCIL IS HAPPY WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE LOOK, HISTORICAL AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR NOW
BUT DOESN'T WANT THAT AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION, WE CAN
BRING BACK A RESOLUTION AS YOU AND I THINK COUNCILMAN
CARLSON SUGGESTED OF JUST THE NEW PROJECTS.
12:16:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FINISH
SOMETHING UP.
12:16:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION AND PROJECTS
HAS THINGS THAT WE MAY WANT TO DO, BUT ARE MORE WISH LIST
ITEMS, BUT NOT HAVING THE HOWARD AVENUE HERE DOESN'T MAKE
SENSE.
WHY DON'T WE HAVE THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO

NEED THE MONEY FOR, WHY AREN'T THEY ON HERE?
12:16:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVEN'T APPROVED HOWARD --
12:16:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVEN'T APPROVED ANY OF THESE THINGS
EITHER.
12:16:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAVEN'T WE APPROVED -- HASN'T COUNCIL SAID
THESE ARE PROJECTS --
12:17:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE WOULD LIKE TO PRIORITIZE THE FIRE
STATIONS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL THEY ARE MOVED.
12:17:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AGAIN, I'M DOING MY BEST TO COMMUNICATE.
I'LL USE THAT ANNEX AS AN EXAMPLE.
COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE ANNEX.
$5.3 MILLION, AND THAT WAS FOR DESIGN.
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO BRING COUNCIL A DECISION
PACKET ON MOVING ANY FURTHER WITH THAT PROJECT.
THIS HAS SIMPLY BEEN FOR THE DESIGN.
WE PAID OURSELVES BACK.
IF WE DECIDE TO CONTINUE WITH THE ANNEX PROJECT, WE WOULD
BRING COUNCIL A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION, BOND FINANCING
PAPERWORK FOR THE FINANCING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
BUT THAT IS NOT THE ADMINISTRATION'S DESIRE AT THIS TIME,
AND I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THE TOTALITY OF THE PROJECT HAS BEEN
INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
HAD WE COME TODAY AND ASKED FOR A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION
OF $40 MILLION, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN -- WOULD HAVE EMPOWERED

US TO SPEND UP TO $40 MILLION.
12:18:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S MY CONCERN -- THE CHIEF STOOD UP AND
BASICALLY SAID WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS.
SO WHILE YOU SAY WE HAVEN'T DECIDED TO GO FORWARD, WE'RE
GOING FORWARD.
THE ADMINISTRATION HAS OR AT LEAST THE CHIEF HAS MADE IT
CLEAR THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD.
SO, AGAIN, I --
12:18:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID BUT IT CAN ONLY GO
FORWARD IF COUNCIL APPROVES IT.
12:18:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS THE SAME THING FOR ALL OF THESE
PROJECTS.
12:18:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, MA'AM.
12:18:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE RESOLUTIONS.
I THINK YOUR GOAL BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TO
SIMPLIFY, KEEP EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE AND ALSO PROBABLY
PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
IT MAKES IT MORE COMPLICATED HAVING THESE OTHER RESOLUTIONS,
BUT I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF BEING ABLE TO APPROVE THINGS,
IT'S BETTER NOT TO HAVE US GO BACK AND VOTE FOR THINGS IN
THE PAST.
12:19:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
UNDERSTOOD.

APPRECIATE THAT.
12:19:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKES IT MORE COMPLICATED.
SHOULD HAVE A TOTAL LIST, PROBABLY WILL BE IN THE SUMMARY OR
RIDE ALONG INSTEAD OF BEING PART OF THE RESOLUTION.
IF YOU COULD GET A RESOLUTION WITH JUST THE NEW ONES,
ESPECIALLY IF WE COULD DO ONE BY ONE, I WOULD BE WILLING TO
APPROVE THAT.
I WOULD RATHER APPROVE PROJECT BY PROJECT, ADD TO THE LIST,
INSTEAD OF REAFFIRM THE EXISTING LIST.
IN THE CURRENT RESOLUTION, IT HAS THE EXISTING PROJECTS.
IT IS AN ADDENDUM BUT APPEARS THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN THAT
WE'RE REAFFIRMING THOSE.
12:20:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
UNDERSTOOD.
I ABSOLUTELY SEE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT, OF COURSE.
12:20:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHOULD WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE
THIS?
12:20:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
12:20:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD TIME AND GOOD DATE?
SOMEBODY GRAB ME A DATE.
12:20:17PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:20:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
NOT LONG.
12:20:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OCTOBER 6?
HEAR A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 69 TO OCTOBER 6, 2025.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
I'M SORRY.
OCTOBER 9.
DO THAT AGAIN.
MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO OCTOBER 9.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
12:20:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
GOOD FOR ME.
GOOD FOR COUNCIL?
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:21:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
APPRECIATE IT.
WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM 80, RIGHT?
SORRY, 74.
74.
ITEM 74.
STORMWATER.
12:21:33PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
BRANDON CAMPBELL, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF
THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE OUR TEAM TO PRESENT AN UPDATE ON THE
STORMWATER MASTER PLANNING EFFORT.
WE HAVE WITH US THIS AFTERNOON FROM APPLIED SCIENCES ELIE

ARAJ AND TAYLOR LANKFORD.
THEY'LL GO THROUGH A PowerPoint THAT WAS UPLOADED TO
OnBase PREVIOUSLY, AND THEN YUAN LI, OUR STORMWATER
ENGINEERING MANAGER, HAS A LITTLE BIT OF FOLLOW-UP TO THEIR
PRESENTATION AS WELL.
I'LL INVITE ELIE UP TO START.
12:22:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AT 12:30, I HAVE TO STEP OUTSIDE FOR A
CITY-RELATED CALL ON THE BUDGET.
I WILL BE BACK.
SHOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
12:22:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF WE'RE NOT HERE, WE WILL LEAVE WITHOUT
YOU.
12:22:18PM >> YUAN LI, STORMWATER ENGINEER MANAGER.
WE ARE GLAD TO BE BACK TO REPORT THE STATUS OF CITYWIDE
WATERSHED MASTER PLAN.
THE PROGRESS WE MADE SINCE THE WORKSHOP IN MAY.
IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST TIME.
AND IN ADDITION, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE
COASTAL MASTER PLAN THAT IS A REGIONAL PLANNING EFFORT LED
BY THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
THIS TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE STORMWATER WORKSHOP A
COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
FLORIDA IS THE FIRST -- REGIONAL FLOOD ADOPTION PLAN AND
CRITICAL SUPPLEMENT TO THE CITY PROGRAM.
WITH THAT, THE TEAM IS HERE TODAY TO REPORT THE QUARTERLY

UPDATE FOR THE MASTER PLAN.
12:23:26PM >> GOOD MORNING.
ELIE ARAJ.
APPLIED SKINS.
THANK YOU FOR INVITING US BACK HERE.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE FOR YOU TODAY, IF SOMEBODY CAN
PUT IT UP.
THIS IS OUR SECOND QUARTERLY UPDATE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BASICALLY A QUICK -- BASICALLY, DO A
QUICK RECAP, GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SINCE
THE LAST PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE HAD AND THEN GIVE YOU AN
UPDATE WHERE THE PROGRAM IS.
QUICKLY, THIS IS OUR TEAM.
WE INTRODUCED OURSELVES THE LAST TIME.
I'M PRESIDENT OF APPLIED SCIENCES.
ALSO MARK HAMMOND, FORMER EXECUTIVE WITH S.W.F.W.M.D., AND
TAYLOR LANKFORD, OUR MODELING TEAM AND IS OUR LEAD FOR THE
WATER RESOURCES.
QUICKLY, AGAIN, WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT HOW THIS MASTER
PLANNING EFFORT FITS INTO THE CONTINUUM OF THE STORMWATER
PROJECT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE THIS IS
WHERE A LOT OF THE PROJECTS FOR THE CITY ARE GOING TO COME
FROM THAT DEAL DIRECTLY WITH STORMWATER.
WE HAVE THE 46 BASINS THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME.

IT'S ACTUALLY 47.
ONE OF THEM WAS BROKEN INTO TWO.
AND WE -- VARIOUS DISTRICTS WITH THE CITY.
THIS IS THE LIST OF THE BASINS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY STUDIED
BEFORE WE STARTED OUR EFFORT.
AND THIS IS THE LIST OF THE BASINS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY
STUDYING RIGHT NOW TO FILL IN THE GAPS, GIVING PRIORITY TO
THOSE BASINS THAT NEEDED IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM HERE THAT YOU SEE GOING.
AND ALSO SERVES AS A QUICK REMINDER THAT WE HAVE SIX
CONSULTANTS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS EFFORT LED BE APPLIED
SCIENCES AND THE LIST THAT YOU SEE HERE WORKING ON THE
VARIOUS BASINS THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU LAST TIME WITH THE
PROPOSED COMPLETION DATE FOR THE FLOODPLAINS.
SINCE THE LAST TIME THE CITY SENT OUT A MAIL-OUT ASKING FOR
FEEDBACK, PICTURES, DOCUMENTATION, PHOTOS OF THE FLOODING
THAT OCCURRED AND RECEIVED OVER 2,000 PHOTOS FROM THE
VARIOUS RESIDENTS IN THESE BASINS AND THOSE PHOTOS AND
DOCUMENTATION ARE STILL TRICKLING IN.
I'LL SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE ONES -- SOME OF THE BASINS
THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
THIS IS IN THE EL PRADO BASIN.
THOSE PICTURES ARE LEMON STREET.
AGAIN, THOSE WERE MOSTLY FROM MILTON AND HELENE.
YOU SEE THE DATES ON THE BOTTOM.

NORTH RIVER WEST.
YBOR CITY.
AND NORTH RIVER EAST.
ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ASK FOR
THIS PHOTO DOCUMENTATION IS WE USE THIS INFORMATION TO
VALIDATE, CALIBRATE, VERIFY A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE
ALREADY HAVE AS WE'RE RUNNING THE MODELS IN THESE VARIOUS
BASINS.
THERE HAS BEEN IN THE FIELD DATA COLLECTION, SURVEYING,
ASSESSMENT OF THE CONNECTIVITY.
THESE ARE PICTURES OF TAYLOR IN PALMETTO BEACH.
EL PRADO OUTFALL.
CONCORDIA PARK OUTFALL INFORMATION COLLECTED ON THE
STORMWATER INVENTORY.
THE CITY HAD A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION ALREADY.
OUR SITE VISITS WOULD CONFIRM THE CONDITION, ADDING ANY NEW
ASSETS, POINTING OUT ANYTHING THAT NEEDED MAINTENANCE,
ET CETERA.
THAT ALL HAPPENS DURING THE SITE VISITS.
WE ARE ALSO IMPLEMENTING, AS WE MENTIONED LAST TIME, A
COMPONENT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SEA LEVEL RISE INTO THE
FUTURE PROJECTS.
THIS IS SOME OF THE ONGOING MODELING EFFORTS ON 18th
STREET, PALMETTO BEACH.
THE ENCORE CHANNELSIDE AREA, AND, AGAIN, THE EL PRADO

OUTFALL THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
THIS IS THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS OR THE BASINS THAT WE'RE
GOING TO BE LOOKING AT NEXT.
AND WE STARTED A LINK PUBLICLY FACING THAT SUMMARIZES THE
EFFORTS ON EACH ONE OF THE BASINS WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN GO,
LOOK AT THE INVENTORY, LOOK AT THE STATUS, AND EVEN GIVE US
FEEDBACK WHERE THEY CAN.
FROM A SCHEDULE PERSPECTIVE, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET,
WE'VE COMPLETED THE DATA COLLECTION.
WE'RE ON SCHEDULE FOR THE FEBRUARY 2026 FOR THE EXISTING
FLOODPLAINS IN GROUP ONE.
JUNE 2026 FOR THE EXISTING FLOODPLAINS FOR GROUP TWO.
THE PROJECTS FOR GROUP ONE WILL BE SLATED TO BE DEVELOPED BY
AUGUST 2026 AND DECEMBER 2026 FOR THE REST OF THE GROUP.
THE FINAL REPORT IS EXPECTED IN 2027, AND, AGAIN, THE BUDGET
THAT WE MENTIONED LAST TIME IS THE $5 MILLION FOR THE
PROGRAM.
ALSO SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET, THE CITY MET WITH OPTE AND
OTHER FOLKS TO LOOK AT SOME ADVANCED MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS FOR
OUTFALLS, INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS, CLOUD BASED.
AND AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME, THOSE WERE SUCCESSFULLY USED
IN OTHER PARTS IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA AND LOOKING TO SEE HOW
WE CAN IMPLEMENT THEM IN THIS PROGRAM.
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT VARIOUS GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE
AREA.

THESE PICTURES ARE FROM PREVIOUS PROJECTS WE'VE DONE WHERE
WE HAVE PERVIOUS PAVERS, LOAD BEARING FOR THE PARKING.
NON LOAD BEARING FOR THE SIDEWALK.
TREE WELLS, PERVIOUS CONCRETE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE FOR
5th STREET AND GREEN GUTTERS.
THOSE ARE SOME TEMPLATES THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF
ST. PETE AND PINELLAS COUNTY.
WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW IS WITH THE NEW
STORMWATER RULE, THEY ARE ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT OR GREEN
INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP WITH IMPLEMENTING THE RULE AND BEING
IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULE.
WE'RE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT AND TAKING THAT INTO
CONSIDERATION AS WE ARE PROVIDING THE PROJECTS.
FINALLY, THE LAST SLIDE WE HAVE IS WHAT WE MENTIONED LAST
TIME, THIS WILL HELP US GET A LOWER RATING FOR THE CRS WHICH
MEANS A BIGGER DISCOUNT ON FLOOD INSURANCE.
WITH THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY
HAVE.
12:29:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:29:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE ON STORMWATER
ALWAYS GETS BACK TO WHAT YOU SHOWED TOWARD THE END, WHICH IS
TRYING TO INSTALL PERVIOUS PAVEMENT, SIDEWALKS, GREEN AREAS.
IN YOUR ANALYSIS WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO

ESTIMATE HOW MUCH AN IMPACT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE BY
IMPLEMENTING THAT AND/OR DO YOU KNOW FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE
WHAT PERCENTAGE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE?
IS IT LIKE 5% IMPACT OR 50% IMPACT?
IT SEEMS TO BE A MAJOR RECOMMENDATION OF MODERN STORMWATER
MANAGEMENT.
12:30:32PM >> RIGHT.
WITHOUT GETTING TOO TECHNICAL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO
ANALYZE IS WHAT WE CALL DIRECTLY CONNECTED IMPERVIOUS AREA,
VERSUS NOT DIRECTLY CONNECTED.
SO DIRECTLY CONNECTED THINKING ABOUT A SPOUT COMING DOWN
FROM THE ROOF, HITTING YOUR DRIVEWAY AND STRAIGHT TO THE
ROAD.
WHEN YOU DISCONNECT THAT, YOU SEND IT TO THE GRASS FIRST AND
THEN TO THE DRIVEWAY.
THIS IS ONE WAY TO KIND OF THINK OF THAT.
OUR MODELING DOES TAKE THE CIA -- INTO CONSIDERATION.
HOWEVER, AT THE PROJECT LEVEL, WHEN WE GET TO THE PROJECT
LEVEL IS WHEN WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE GREEN
INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT ACTUALLY IN THE FINAL
DESIGN AND FINAL SOLUTIONS.
12:31:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN YOUR ANALYSIS, IF YOU HAVE SYSTEMIC
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE OF POLICIES LIKE
THAT, THAT YOU SEE IN OTHER CITIES, LIKE INCENTIVES FOR
PEOPLE TO USE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT IN THEIR YARDS OR WHATEVER,

THEN PLEASE LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING
THAT RIGHT AWAY.
ALSO, WILL YOUR ANALYSIS SHOW THE CITY IS ON A SEVEN-YEAR
CYCLE NOW TO DO MAINTENANCE.
SO THERE ARE AREAS PRESUMABLY THAT WON'T HAVE MAINTENANCE
FOR STILL MAYBE SIX MORE YEARS, BUT ALSO AREAS THAT WE CAN
SEE DIDN'T HAVE MAINTENANCE IN PRIOR SEVEN OR TEN YEARS AT
LEAST.
WILL YOUR ANALYSIS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE MODELING WITH
AND WITHOUT THE MAINTENANCE SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE IMPACT OF
LACK OF MAINTENANCE IS AND OR SYSTEMS?
THERE IS A BALANCE WE'VE GOT TO FIND BETWEEN HOW FAST DO WE
DO THE MAINTENANCE, IS SEVEN YEARS ACCEPTABLE?
SHOULD INCREASE THE BUDGET?
DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO IT?
VERSUS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN.
12:32:19PM >> THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS, YES, WHEN WE GO OUT IN THE FIELD
AND WE SHOWED SOME OF THE FOLKS HOW THEY ARE DOING THE DATA
COLLECTION, WE DO MAKE A NOTE OR FIND OUT WHICH AREAS MAY
NEED MAINTENANCE, WHICH AREAS MAY NOT NEED MAINTENANCE.
AND THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED.
AS YOU SAW IN THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, WE STARTED WITH A
FIELD INVESTIGATION AND THEN MODELING AND THEN WE GO ON WITH
THE MAINTENANCE AT THE ENDS.
THE ACTUAL CYCLE OF MAINTENANCE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE

COMPLICATED THAN THAT, BECAUSE IT'S DEPENDENT, AS WE KNOW,
ON THE RESOURCES, ON WHERE THE ACTUAL STRUCTURES ARE AND THE
ACCESS TO THEM AND ALL THAT.
BUT OUR MODELING WILL ACTUALLY HELP THE CITY IN IDENTIFYING
THE AREAS THAT DO ACTUALLY NEED MORE MAINTENANCE WITHIN
THOSE BASINS.
12:33:11PM >> YUAN LI, STORMWATER MANAGER.
THE MODELING PART, ASSUMING THE SYSTEM IS WELL MAINTAINED.
HOWEVER, WANTED TO LET THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC KNOW,
ENGINEERS WORKING ON THE STUDIES DO GO OUT TO VERIFY THE
INFORMATION AND COLLECT ADDITIONAL DATA AND IDENTIFY
IMMEDIATE MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND COME BACK TO THE CITY SO
THAT WE CAN GENERATE WORK ORDERS.
BUT MODELING ITSELF ASSUME ALL THE SYSTEMS ARE FUNCTIONING
PROPERLY.
SO THAT'S WHY, IF WE IDENTIFY THE FLOOD RISKS, THERE WILL BE
SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS PROPOSED BECAUSE ASSUMING
ALL THE SYSTEMS ARE WELL MAINTAINED.
12:33:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
THE OTHER THING WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE AND MAYBE BRANDON WILL
WANT TO ANSWER THIS.
YUAN, WHEN WE WENT TO THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC HEARING,
COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY PARTNER WITH
THE COUNTY, I THINK BLACK & VEATCH IS DOING THE ANALYSIS,
BUT WHEN WE WENT TO THAT PUBLIC MEETING A COUPLE OF MONTHS

AGO, CONSTITUENTS WERE ASKING BLACK & VEATCH WHAT ABOUT MY
NEIGHBORHOODS.
BLACK & VEATCH SAID, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE CITY DID
NOT PROVIDE ALL THE DATA THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO THE
ANALYSIS.
DO YOU KNOW IF THE CITY, I KNOW IT IS A DIFFERENT ANALYSIS,
BUT THEY ARE KIND OF WORKING SIDE BY SIDE.
HAS THAT DATA BEEN GIVEN TO BLACK & VEATCH?
12:34:39PM >> YES.
PROVIDED TO BLACK & VEATCH AND COUNTY.
BLACK & VEATCH MADE THEIR FINAL REPORT READY ALREADY BACK
EARLY THIS MONTH, PRESENTED TO COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
LATE JULY.
THE FINAL REPORT IS READY.
STAFF GOT US A FINAL REPORT ALREADY.
THE COUNTY IS FORMING A WORKING GROUP, INCLUDING THE COUNTY,
S.W.F.W.M.D. AND CITY OF TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY AND
TAMPA.
WE ARE AWAITING THE VERY FIRST GROUP TO DISCUSS FURTHER
ACTION ITEMS.
12:35:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HAVE WE ALREADY SCHEDULED BLACK & VEATCH TO
COME WITH STAFF?
12:35:26PM >> NO, WE NEED TO DO THAT.
12:35:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN WOULD YOU RECOMMEND WE SET THAT UP?
12:35:31PM >> IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL.

12:35:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT WITH THEM OR JUST
HAVE THEM PRESENT?
12:35:41PM >> WE CAN CHECK.
WE CAN ARRANGE WITH BLACK & VEATCH AND TALKING WITH THE
COUNTY.
12:35:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
UNFORTUNATELY, NOVEMBER 6 SEEMS TO BE THE
FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
12:35:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOTION FOR NOVEMBER 6 TO HAVE BLACK & VEATCH
PRESENT THE COUNTY'S MASTER STORMWATER PLAN WITH CITY
STORMWATER STAFF AVAILABLE.
12:36:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T THINK IT WAS A MASTER PLAN.
12:36:12PM >> POST-HURRICANE REGIONAL STORMWATER ASSESSMENT.
THEY DO HAVE ASSESSMENT REPORT.
12:36:26PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:36:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE A STEP AHEAD.
NOVEMBER 20 TO COME BACK WITH THIS PLAN.
MAYBE A NICE SECONDARY THING.
12:36:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT WAY ALL IN ONE DAY.
12:36:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND WE HAVE THE MONTHLY IN-PERSON UPDATE.
IT WILL BE A STORMWATER DAY.
12:36:49PM >> ONE MORE THING I WANT TO ADD, IN SUMMARY, WE COMPLETED
THE FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
SO GETTING ALL THE DOCUMENTATION.
WE WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS
FOR SHARING ALL THE DOCUMENTATION.

IT WILL PROVIDE VALUABLE INFORMATION, IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF
OUR STUDY BUT ALSO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR OWN WORK.
AND LOOKING AHEAD, AROUND THE NOVEMBER TIME AND WE
ANTICIPATE A NUMBER OF WATERSHED MODELING GOING TO BE RAMPED
UP, PUBLIC FOR THE SECOND ROUND TO SHARE THE FLOOD RISKS BY
HOSTING ALL THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
12:37:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S HOPE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION TO ADD, THE HURRICANE SEASON.
12:37:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COMPLETE THE NAME --
12:37:43PM >> I THINK IT IS CALLED POST HURRICANE REGIONAL STORMWATER
ASSESSMENT.
12:37:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
POST HURRICANE REGIONAL STORMWATER
ASSESSMENT.
12:37:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO ADD THAT AS
PREVIOUSLY STATED REPORT TO THE NOVEMBER 20 STORMWATER
UPDATE.
MR. SHELBY.
12:38:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AGAIN, THE NAME OF THE COMPANY THAT'S GOING
TO PROVIDE IS BLACK & VEATCH.
AND WILL YOUR OFFICE THEN ARRANGE FOR THAT INVITATION FOR
THE DATE?
12:38:19PM >> NOVEMBER 20.
12:38:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'LL REACH OUT TO THEM.
12:38:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?

HAVE THEM PRESENT JUST BEFORE THE CITY?
THAT WAY YOU HAVE TIME TO RESPOND OR REFLECT ON WHAT THEY
SAID ON THAT DATE.
12:38:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR REQUEST IS THAT THE REPORT ON THE
20th IT WILL BE THAT COMPANY THAT BLACK & VEATCH COMPANY
WILL DO THE FIRST PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY CITY OF TAMPA
STORMWATER.
12:38:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH.
SEPARATE PRESENTATION.
THAT WAY THEY CAN REFLECT ON WHATEVER WAS PRESENTED.
12:38:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE THE MOTION AS STATED FOR NOVEMBER
20 FOR THAT TO COME BACK.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAD WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
12:39:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT
YOU'VE DONE.
I KNOW THIS IS APPLIED SCIENCE, BUT WITHIN THAT SCIENCE,
THERE IS AN AREA THAT NO ONE KNOWS.
THAT IS THE UNCERTAIN OF WHAT'S COMING OR NOT COMING, I
SHOULD SAY.
BECAUSE UP TO NOW WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE THAT NOTHING HAS
HIT ANY PART OF THE UNITED STATES.
IT TURNED RIGHT.

I AM VERY CONCERNED, THE QUESTION WOULD BE THIS, IF
SOMETHING LIKE HAPPENED LAST YEAR WAS TO COME, WHERE DO YOU
THINK WE'D BE AT WITH ALL THE REPAIRS AND THINGS THAT WE'VE
DONE?
12:39:32PM >> THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT TOPIC.
IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION.
WE DO WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING REGARDING A PARALLEL REGIONAL
EFFORT BEING LED BY THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
CAN WE GO BACK?
12:39:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME DISPOSE OF THIS ONE RESOLUTION
FIRST BEFORE WE GET TOO CAUGHT UP IN THIS.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO HAVE THE BLACK & VEATCH
COMPANY COME AND DO A PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY CITY OF TAMPA
PRESENTATION ON NOVEMBER 20, 2025.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
OKAY.
GO AHEAD.
12:40:10PM >> YUAN LI, STORMWATER ENGINEER MANAGER.
THIS ONE IS REALLY DRIVEN BY ALL THE COASTAL COMMUNITIES.
LIKE WE SAID, TAMPA IS NOT ALONE.
INCREASING STRESS BY SEA LEVEL RISE, TIDAL FLOODING AND --
STORM SURGE.

THAT'S WHY THE STUDY WAS REALLY ADDRESS ALL THE COMMUNITY'S
NEEDS.
IT COVERS SEVEN COUNTIES ON THE WEST COAST FROM -- TO
SARASOTA AND IMPACTING APPROXIMATELY MORE THAN 4 MILLION
RESIDENTS.
THIS STUDY WAS KICKED OFF, JUST THREE MONTHS AGO.
PRETTY RECENT.
IT HAS FOUR PHASES.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND DATA COLLECTION AND THE RISK
ASSESSMENT, AND THEN THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND
PRIORITIZATION AND THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
THERE ARE TWO TRACKS, TECHNICAL TRACK AND ALSO COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT TRACK.
BOTH GROUPS ARE MEETING MONTHLY OR EVERY OTHER MONTH, AND
THE CITY RESILIENCE OFFICE AND STORMWATER TEAM ARE BOTH
INVOLVED IN THIS ONE.
AND WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE LIKE PERIODICAL UPDATE AND GO
INTO QUARTERLY UPDATE OF THE MASTER PLAN BECAUSE THIS IS A
HIGHLY RELEVANT TOPIC.
COASTAL COMMUNITIES.
WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
12:42:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
12:42:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
I THINK THIS WAS A REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO UPDATE US

ON HOW A PROJECT IS GOING.
I REALLY DID APPRECIATE THE VISUALS WERE GREAT.
IT WAS VERY CLEAR WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I REALLY LIKED IT.
JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THE PUBLIC COULD DEFINITELY FOLLOW THIS AND WE REALLY DO
APPRECIATE IT.
12:42:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS FOR THE DAY.
WE'RE INTO NEW BUSINESS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
12:42:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'VE GOT A BIT.
AGENDA REVIEW -- NEVER MIND.
I ALREADY DID THAT ONE.
A MOTION TO RECOGNIZE THE CITY OF TAMPA PURCHASING
DEPARTMENT FOR WINNING YET ANOTHER AWARD.
THE 2025 ANNUAL ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE IN PROCUREMENT
AWARD FOR THE NATIONAL PROCUREMENT INSTITUTE.
THIS IS THEIR 19th CONSECUTIVE YEAR WINNING THIS AWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD INTO THE AGENDA ON SEPTEMBER 18, 2025,
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING UNDER CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY.
12:43:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
12:43:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NEXT, I DID SAY I WOULD WORK ON THE BUDGET
REVIEW COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STUDY FOR THE FEES.
WELL, GOOD NEWS.
WE HAVE KIND OF ALREADY DONE THAT.
I HAVE E-MAILS WITH THE EXPECTED DATES OF COMPLETION FOR THE
FEE STUDIES THAT ARE REQUESTED BY THE BUDGET REVIEW
COMMITTEE THIS MORNING.
I WILL SHARE THE E-MAILS WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND
MS. KOPESKY SO SHE CAN PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO THE
CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE AT THEIR MEETING TOMORROW.
BASICALLY, THE MOBILITY FEE TOPIC WILL BE ON THE SEPTEMBER
25 AND OCTOBER 30th COUNCIL WORKSHOPS.
DEVELOPMENT GROWTH AND MANAGEMENT FEE STUDY IS SCHEDULED TO
BE DELIVERED ON NOVEMBER 1st.
I'M SORRY.
STAFF ANTICIPATES RETURNING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR PRESENTATION
DECEMBER 2025.
GOOD NEWS IS, WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO ALL THREE OF THOSE
STUDIES BEING PUT FORWARD.
ADDITIONALLY, WANTED -- WAIT, THERE'S MORE.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE MEMO THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION AND HART TALKING ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION OF
THE STREETCAR VERSUS BUS FUNDING.

AND I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION ON WEDNESDAY, WHERE WE DID DISCUSS THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STREETCAR AND THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE BUS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT CONVERSATION.
IT WAS REALLY WONDERFUL.
I KNOW I TALKED TO YOU ALL, I MENTIONED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE
FACT THAT I WAS HOPING TO EARMARK ABOUT $3 MILLION TO THE
BUS.
TURNED OUT I DON'T NEED NEARLY THAT MUCH MONEY.
SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WILL BE TALKING A BIT
MORE ABOUT THE BUS ON WEDNESDAY.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I HAD A REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION,
BOTH WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND VERY LATER THAT AFTERNOON
WITH HART.
SO WE HAVE A MUCH CHEAPER PROPOSAL GOING FORWARD, FOCUSING
ON ROUTE ONE AND THE BRT AND THE REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE
ACCELERATOR.
I'M HAPPY TO MENTION THAT.
12:45:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GREAT.
I LOVE GOOD NEWS.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:45:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR
WRITTEN STAFF REPORT FOR JANUARY 8.
PLENTY OF TIME.

TO LOOK AT MANATEE PROTECTION ZONES.
SEE WHAT EXISTS IN THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, WHAT THE
BOUNDARIES ARE.
I THINK IT MAY STOP AT SLIGH.
IF WE COULD EXPAND IT FURTHER TO THE DAM.
I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH FWC, MAYBE THE COUNTY.
I KNOW IT'S MULTIJURISDICTIONAL.
JUST TO SEE WHAT EXISTS AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO FURTHER
EXPAND THAT.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH ROD.
HE'S ALWAYS ON THE RIVER.
KAYAKING ON THE RIVER.
I KAYAKED WITH HIM ON THE RIVER.
WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, I USED TO ROW ON THE RIVER.
THE RIVER IS VERY SIGNIFICANT, BUT SO ARE MANATEES.
12:46:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS VERY GOOD FRIENDS
WITH MANATEES.
12:46:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
EXACTLY.
WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM.
WE HAVE BOATS GOING THROUGH.
12:46:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE ANY OF IT'S
OWN MANATEE PROTECTION ZONES?
12:46:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
12:46:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE THE INFORMATION ON MY DESK.
YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH MULTIPLE AGENCIES TO GET PERMISSION.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE REGARDING MANATEE
PROTECTION ZONES AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD IN
ORDER TO FURTHER EXPAND THAT.
12:46:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WRITTEN
STAFF REPORT, MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:47:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
THANK YOU.
12:47:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:47:15PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:47:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A PERSON THAT IT IS
THEIR BIRTHDAY TOMORROW.
MS. KOPESKY, IF YOU'RE LISTENING.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUDGET ANALYST
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.
12:47:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SEE, WE'RE BRINGING THE MUSIC ALONG WITH US.
12:47:48PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:47:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT COULD HAVE GOTTEN WORSE.
COULD HAVE BEEN YOU.

12:47:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I RECOGNIZE THE CHAIR.
12:47:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
AS I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER AND I SENT AN E-MAIL, I'LL BE
HONEST, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DEAL
WITH ON COUNCIL FOR VARIOUS REASONS AND SOME GOOD, SOME
WHATEVER.
THE ISSUE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WITH
THE MANDATE THAT THE SIDEWALKS, CROSSWALKS, PUBLIC ART BE
MANDATED TO BE DESTROYED.
ONE, IT BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WE HAVE
SO MANY OF THESE BEAUTIFUL CROSSWALKS TO CLASSROOMS THAT HAD
BEEN CREATED BY STUDENTS, CREATED BY ARTISTS.
WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH PULSE NIGHTCLUB IN ORLANDO, WHICH
WAS AN AREA WHERE 49 PEOPLE, INNOCENT PEOPLE WERE TARGETED
BECAUSE OF WHO THEY LOVED AND WERE SHOT AND KILLED AND THEY
CREATED THAT AREA AS A TRIBUTE TO THOSE FOLKS THAT
SACRIFICED EVERYTHING JUST BECAUSE THEY ALL WANTED TO SHOW
UP AS A COMMUNITY TO HAVE FUN ONE NIGHT AND ONE EVIL PERSON
WALKED IN AND KILLED THEM ALL, THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.
THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL CROSS WALK, CREATED A SAFE ZONE FOR
PEOPLE TO WALK TO THE AREA TO PAY TRIBUTE TO THAT.
HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT.
ST. PETERSBURG DID, BUT WE DIDN'T.
WHAT WE DO HAVE IS WE HAVE THESE GREAT MURALS, GREAT
SIDEWALKS.

HAMPTON TERRACE, A MEDIAN, LIKE A MANATEE PAINTED IN IT,
BUTTERFLIES.
ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL THINGS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHICH MAKES
-- IT DESIGNATES IT IS A COMMUNITY.
SOMETHING THAT REALLY MAKES SOMETHING SPECIAL.
SOMETHING NOTEWORTHY.
IN FACT, OUR CROSSWALKS TO CLASSROOMS WAS AWARDED BY THE
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS SAFETY ENHANCEMENT.
THE SAME DEPARTMENT NOW THAT'S TELLING WE HAVE TO SANDBLAST
THEM OFF THE ROADS.
ALMOST DREW A TEAR WHEN I WATCHED THESE KIDS OUT THERE
PAINTING THE THINGS.
I CREATED AN IDEA.
I KNOW THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT IS WITHIN OUR
STANDARD RULES OF PROCEDURE, SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO PUSH BACK
AND PUSH THIS TO ANOTHER TIME.
I THINK COUNCILMAN VIERA WANTED TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS,
BUT HE'S NOT HERE.
DID I THIS RESOLUTION.
IT'S A RESOLUTION OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CONDEMNING THE
ACTIONS OF GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS TO RESTRICT OR REMOVE ART
PAINTINGS, COMMUNITY CROSS WALK EXPRESSION AND SAFETY
ENHANCEMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND AFFIRMING THE VALUE
OF PUBLIC ART, DIVERSITY, AND COMMUNITY IDENTITY PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I WROTE THIS UP.
ANYBODY THAT WANTS COPIES OF IT, I PUT IT ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA
WITH THE INTENT OF DOING THIS.
I'LL SPARE EVERYBODY READING IT.
ALL THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND STAFF SHOULD HAVE IT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT, THAT I FEEL LIKE
THE CITY OF TAMPA -- WE NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE
THEY ARE HOLDING US HOSTAGE.
WE DEPENDENT UPON FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
FUNDING FOR SO MANY THINGS.
IF THEY WERE TO WITHHOLD FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
BECAUSE WE FAILED TO FOLLOW THE RULES, IT'S SOMETHING WE
CAN'T LIVE WITH.
WE'RE BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY TALLAHASSEE.
THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING UP THERE IN TALLAHASSEE.
SO, REALLY, THE MOST WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS REALLY REGISTER
OUR OBJECTION.
USE OUR VOICES AND TELL PEOPLE HOW OBJECTIONABLE IT IS FOR
WHAT'S HAPPENING AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON FIRST.
12:51:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:51:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH THE THINGS
YOU SAID.
IF THIS GOES FORWARD AS IS, I'LL SUPPORT IT.

I'VE GOT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MODIFICATION, RECOMMENDATIONS.
I ALSO IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU SAID, THANK EMILY --
[INAUDIBLE] FOR SETTING THESE UP AND THE ARTISTS THAT WORK
ON THEM AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CONTRIBUTED MONEY.
IT'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO HIRE THE
ARTIST.
I'VE BEEN OUT PERSONALLY PAINTING A COUPLE OF THEM.
IN THE HOT SUN.
YOU'VE GOT LIKE 20, 30 VOLUNTEERS PAINTING THESE THINGS.
THESE ARE EFFORTS WHERE THE COMMUNITY REALLY CAME OUT.
MANY OF THEM ARE BY SCHOOLS, AS YOU MENTIONED, WHICH MAKES
IT SAFER AROUND SCHOOLS.
THERE IS ONE THAT I HELPED WITH NEXT TO COLEMAN, AND THE
PROBLEM IS THAT THE LAW WON'T ALLOW US TO BUILD A CROSSWALK
IF THERE'S NOT A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE TRIED TO ADDRESS A FEW YEARS AGO,
SOMETIMES IT'S NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO PUT A SIDEWALK.
IF YOU CAN'T PUT A CROSSWALK AND YOU HAVE KIDS CROSSING TO
GO TO SCHOOL, IT'S A HAZARD.
BESIDES ALL THE OTHER REASONS, IF -- THERE IS A REALLY
STRONG SAFETY CONSIDERATION, NOT JUST FOR THESE THINGS IN
GENERAL, BUT THE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN'T PUT CROSSWALKS.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, MY DAY JOB IS LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE
THIS.
WHEN OUR COUNCIL DOES SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE

OR LEGISLATURE DON'T AGREE WITH, THEY DECIDED THINGS RIGHT
AWAY.
WHEN COUNCILMAN VIERA PUSHED THE VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THE
APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE, THEY CHANGED THE LAW RIGHT AWAY ON
US.
IF WE SEND THIS, FOR SURE IT'S A POLITICAL STATEMENT BUT
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, BECAUSE MOST OF THIS IS REALLY GOOD,
IF WE JUST STRIPPED OUT THE CONDEMNATION PART AND SOME OF
THAT LANGUAGE AND JUST SENT A LETTER, YOU COULD INCLUDE THE
REST OF IT, BUT JUST PLEADED WITH THE GOVERNOR TO PLEASE
ALLOW THEM IN PLACES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED FOR SAFETY
REASONS.
AND YOU COULD EVEN SAY THE ONES THAT HAVE MANATEE CHARACTERS
OR OTHER NONPOLITICAL SIGNS, WHAT I'VE TOLD PEOPLE IN THE
LGBT COMMUNITY, WE HAVE A YEAR AND A HALF -- A LITTLE OVER A
YEAR UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW GOVERNOR, NEW ADMINISTRATION.
DEPENDING ON WHO WINS, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAINT THEM BACK
AGAIN.
I'M CERTAIN WE WOULD ALL DO THAT.
IN THE MEANTIME, ALL THE HARD WORK AND EFFORT THAT PEOPLE
PUT INTO THESE AND ESPECIALLY THE ONES NEXT TO SCHOOLS, I
THINK IT'S OUR DUTY TO TRY TO CONVINCE THE GOVERNOR TO NOT
FORCE TO US PAINT OVER THOSE.
12:54:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON THAT LANGUAGE, TRUST ME, I STRUGGLED

WITH IT, TOO.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I DIDN'T NECESSARILY -- I GET
IT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THIS.
THEY ARE HOLDING US HOSTAGE ON F.D.O.T. FUNDING.
ONE, SOME OF THE NASTINESS OF THIS.
THIS IS JUST MEANNESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BURY OUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND MINCE
OUR WORDS ON IT.
BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME FOR A COMMUNITY, WHEN THEY COME FOR
THINGS, I THINK WE HAVE TO RISE UP TO THAT LEVEL OF
AGGRESSION.
HONESTLY, CONDEMNING, IF WE HAD MORE POWER, THE LANGUAGE
WOULD BE MORE THAN CONDEMNING.
THAT'S THE MOST POWER WE HAVE IS OUR LANGUAGE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CANNOT CONDEMN -- BACK TO THE
CROSSWALKS, CLASSROOMS.
I'VE SEEN STATISTICS THAT SHOW THE SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS.
HOW DO YOU NOT CONDEMN REMOVING SOMETHING THAT IS IN PLACE
THAT MAY SAVE A CHILD'S LIFE, FOR WHAT?
BECAUSE YOU WANT TO TARGET A RAINBOW.
YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT PEOPLE IN JEOPARDY CROSSING STREETS
BECAUSE YOUR MASCULINITY IS SO OFFENDED BECAUSE THERE IS A
DAMN RAINBOW IN THE STREET.
THAT'S JUST CRAZY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY COULD NOT SEE THAT THAT'S CRAZY.
I DON'T KNOW --
12:55:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
QUICK FOLLOW-UP.
THE CITY HAD TO REMIND THEM THAT THERE IS A BACK TO BLUE --
BUT THEY ARE CONSISTENT AND SAID TAKE THAT ONE UP TOO.
AT LEAST THEY ARE CONSISTENT IN SAYING THAT ALL OF THESE
HAVE TO COME UP.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE POLICY.
MY ONLY SUGGESTION, YOU SEE HOW FAR ST. PETE HAS GOTTEN BY
ARGUING WITH THEM.
IF WE SAY CONDEMN, THEY'LL TAKE IT MAKE FUN OF IT AND THROW
IT AWAY.
MIGHT EVEN DO SOMETHING ELSE PUNITIVE AGAINST US.
IF WE SAY, HEY, WE REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU TO AT LEAST ALLOW
US TO KEEP THESE, WE MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE OF KEEPING SOME OF
THESE.
THAT IS MY SUGGESTION.
12:56:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE SUING IN OTHER
COMMUNITIES.
HONESTLY, I'M NOT EVEN ADVOCATING FOR THAT BECAUSE I DON'T
WANT TO WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY.
AGAIN, I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, AT
LEAST WE CAN GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY, HEY, WE DIDN'T SIT BY
AND SAY NOTHING.
12:56:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
POLITICS IS LIKE A WAVE IN THE OCEAN.

GUESS WHAT, EVERY WAVE IN THE OCEAN COMES TO AN END.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:57:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT TO SAY.
GO AHEAD.
12:57:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I TEND TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF COUNCILMAN
CARLSON WITH THIS.
BUT I ALSO AGREE, I DON'T MIND IF IT GOES THROUGH.
THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD TO IT IS THERE ARE SOME OF
THESE MURALS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD DOLLARS,
WHERE THEY HAVE RAISED THE MONEY THEMSELVES.
I THINK ONE CONCRETE THING WE CAN DO IS WE CAN PAY THOSE
NEIGHBORHOODS BACK.
IF SOMEBODY CAN SHOW THEY SPENT A THOUSAND DOLLARS PAINTING
A MURAL LIKE HAMPTON TERRACE SAID THEY DID, THE LEAST WE CAN
DO FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
I THINK THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS PAY THEM BACK.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT, MAYBE I CAN
BRING A MOTION TO SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE'S AT LEAST THAT LITTLE THING.
BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE WERE FUNDED BY THE CITY, MY
UNDERSTANDING.
WOULDN'T BE THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL DONE BY NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE SHOULD
MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHOLE.

12:58:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF THAT WOULD COME TO PASS, I WOULD
ENTERTAIN THAT AS WELL.
12:58:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
I RECEIVED A CALL AND SPOKE WITH SOME FOLKS IN HAMPTON
TERRACE.
THEY RAISED THE MONEY AND THEY PAID FOR THAT MEDIAN, NOT A
CROSS WALK, NOT IN THE STREET, A MEDIAN.
I REACHED OUT TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SAID, CAN THEY
EXEMPT THIS?
IT'S ART AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.
IN REGARDS TO THE RAINBOW AND EVERYTHING, MY WIFE CALLS ME
HER RAINBOW BECAUSE I AM THE RAINBOW AFTER THE STORM.
THE RAINBOW HAS TO ME A MORE UNIVERSAL THING.
IN ITALY, THEY CALL IT THE PEACE FLAG.
EXACTLY.
AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD MENTIONED, THE BACK TO BLUE MURAL,
THEY ARE SAYING TAKING THEM ALL OUT.
THEY ARE DISTRACTING.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THE DATA SHOWS REGARDING LIKE THE
CROSSWALKS TO CLASSROOMS, THE AWARDS THAT WERE GIVEN, THE
ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF IT MAKES THE ROAD SAFER.
WHY?
PEOPLE GO, WHAT IS THAT AND THEY SLOW DOWN.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
WE HAVE SPEEDERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE DISTRACTED WITH THEIR

PHONES AND OTHER THINGS, BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR
-- YOU KNOW, THIS WAS IMPLEMENTED NOT BECAUSE WE WANTED
SOMETHING PRETTY, BUT IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY THING.
TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND VISIBILITY.
IN REGARDS TO HAMPTON TERRACE AND THEIR MEDIAN, WHY, BECAUSE
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE AND I'M ALWAYS THERE, IT'S TO
BEAUTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ART IS BEAUTIFUL.
MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A PAINTER.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAINTING OUTSIDE MY OFFICE, MY
GRANDMOTHER PAINTED IT.
ART HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF MY LIFE.
WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS WORLD, AND WE
HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
WE GO OUTSIDE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS,
HOUSELESS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING.
I CAN GO ON AND ON.
AND THIS IS THE FIGHT THAT WE PICKED TODAY, NOT US.
I'M SAYING LIKE THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
A SHOOTING IN A CATHOLIC CHURCH YESTERDAY.
MY MOTHER GLUED TO THE TV GOING, THOSE POOR CHILDREN.
SHE HAS GRANDKIDS THOSE AGES.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SOPHIA.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MIA.

PRAYING.
THE CHURCH TO ME IS MY PEACEFUL PLACE.
IT'S LIKE NOTHING IS SACRED, NOTHING IS SAFE, SO LET'S FIGHT
CROSSWALKS, LET'S FIGHT ART, THAT HAS PROVEN TO SHOW IT
MAKES PEOPLE HAPPY, IT KEEPS KIDS SAFER.
THERE ARE SO MANY POSITIVE THINGS.
HERE WE ARE THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE THIS RESOLUTION AND GO,
WE HAVE A $2 BILLION BUDGET, WE HAVE A MILLION PEOPLE COMING
TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT FUTURE LAND USES AND THINGS.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I'M NOT CRITICIZING YOU.
I COMPLIMENT YOU, BUT IT'S LIKE THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER
PROBLEMS IN THIS WORLD.
THIS IS WHAT WE SPEND OUR TIME HAVING TO FIGHT.
1:01:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
OBVIOUSLY, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS.
THERE IS ANOTHER PART TO THIS, WHICH IS WHAT I CALL
COMMUNITY VALUES.
THESE MURALS AND CROSSWALKS GO TO COMMUNITY VALUES, SOME OF
WHICH TALLAHASSEE DOESN'T SUPPORT, AND WE SAW IT AT ITS
UGLIEST IN ORLANDO.
OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL AGREE WITH THE MURAL LEADING UP TO PULSE
WHERE 49 PEOPLE WERE MURDERED BECAUSE THEY ARE GAY, BECAUSE
THEY ARE FROM LGBT COMMUNITY.
THE MURALS THAT I'VE SEEN IN OUR LOCAL AREA, WE OBVIOUSLY

HAVE THE POLICE MURAL THAT SUPPORTS OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
I OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
WE HAVE MURALS THAT POINT TO BLACK HISTORY AND HOW, YOU
KNOW, THAT WE HAVE SUCH A CRITICAL IGNORED BLACK HISTORY IN
OUR STATE AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, RANGING FROM WHEN 4 MILLION
PEOPLE WERE EMANCIPATED AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, TO
RECONSTRUCTION, JIM CROW ONWARD TO TODAY, RANGING TO RESPECT
AND DIGNITY FOR LGBT POPULATION.
AND SO I THINK THAT COMMUNITIES HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPRESS
THEIR VALUES.
WHETHER IT'S FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, WHETHER IT'S FOR GAY AND
LESBIAN FOLKS, WHETHER IT'S ON BLACK HISTORY THROUGH MURALS,
SO LONG AS THEY MEET CERTAIN SAFETY STANDARDS, WHICH THESE,
ACCORDING TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING DO, I DO THINK
THOSE COMMUNITY VALUES, SO LONG AS THEY ARE POSITIVE AND
INCLUSIVE AND TALK ABOUT THE FAMILY OF AMERICA, I SUPPORT
THAT.
AND WHY SUDDENLY THIS IS THE NEW OUTRAGE FROM TALLAHASSEE,
IT BLOWS MY MIND WHAT THESE PEOPLE GET SO ANGRY ABOUT.
SO, YEAH, SUPPORT IT AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
1:02:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.
WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS PROPOSED A RESOLUTION.
1:02:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOVE THIS DOWN
EVERYBODY'S THROAT.
IF PEOPLE WERE COMFORTABLE PASSING THIS TODAY, THAT'S FINE.

IF THEY WANT TO DEFER IT TO ANOTHER TIME, THAT'S FINE, TOO.
I WANTED TO GET IT OUT HERE BECAUSE SO TIMELY, SO MANY
THINGS HAPPENING, SO MUCH HURT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, I
THOUGHT IT WAS TIMELY TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD.
1:03:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. SHELBY.
1:03:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
JUST A REMINDER THAT WAS WHAT WAS PASSED OUT WAS AN EARLIER
VERSION.
LANGUAGE REMAINS THE SAME BUT GIVEN A SUBSTITUTE VERSION TO
THE CLERK WITH MINOR CHANGES IN FORMATTING AND PUNCTUATION.
MIND YOU, SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS NOT ACTUALLY
WHAT THE CLERK HAS NOW, BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU SIGN WILL
GET SIGNED ALSO BY THE CLERK AND ALSO NUMBERED.
AND THAT WILL BE THE OFFICIAL VERSION.
IF YOU WANT TO DISTRIBUTE THAT ONE --
1:03:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE ONE WE HAVE IS -- IS THIS THE UPDATED
ONE?
1:03:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, IT IS NOT.
IT IS NOT WHAT THE CLERK HAS.
WE CAN E-MAIL YOU WHAT THE CLERK HAS.
SO THAT WAY IF YOU SHOULD DISTRIBUTE IT, I WOULD RATHER YOU
DISTRIBUTE THE ONE NUMBERED AND SIGNED BY THE CHAIR.
1:03:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
1:04:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU MISSED WHAT I SAID EARLIER.

I THINK IF WE TOOK OUT SOME OF THE INFLAMMATORY LANGUAGE AND
ASKED HIM TO ALLOW US TO KEEP THE ONES FOR SAFETY REASONS,
IT WOULD BE BETTER.
I'M VERY INVOLVED IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY.
THE GOVERNOR WENT AFTER SOME ORGANIZATIONS IN THE ARTS
COMMUNITY LAST YEAR, SOME OF THEM WERE IN TAMPA AND TALKED
ABOUT THEM.
MY ADVICE TO THEM WAS IF YOU PICK A FIGHT, THINK ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED TO BOB IGER AND DISNEY.
BOB IGER WAS POTENTIALLY A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, AND
DISNEY LOST THAT BATTLE.
IT'S AFFECTED ALL KINDS OF THINGS AT DISNEY BECAUSE THEY
WENT INTO THAT BATTLE.
I THINK THE BETTER COURSE -- IF WE PICK A FIGHT, WE'RE GOING
TO LOSE BECAUSE HE HAS THE NATIONAL MEDIA, THE STATE MEDIA.
WHAT WE CAN WIN IS TO MAYBE PROTECT SOME OF THE SAFETY
MEASURES THAT ARE IN THERE THAT ARE PROTECTING KIDS.
THE OTHER ONES WILL HAVE TO COME DOWN.
THERE'S NO WAY HE'S NOT GOING TO FORCE THOSE TO COME DOWN,
INCLUDING THE BACK TO BLUE ONE.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME OF THEM IF WE PLEADED ON
SAFETY REASONS.
1:05:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL CONTEND THAT WE DIDN'T START IT.
IT'S NOT ACTIONABLE.
WE'RE NOT WITHHOLDING RESOURCES.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS STRONG, DECISIVE WORDING AND BASED ON THE
ACTIONS HE'S TAKEN.
I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IS MINCING WORDS.
THIS IS A STRONG ITEM, IT ORIGINATED AT PULSE.
IT'S COME HERE.
WITH ALL THE ISSUES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH THE KIDS, THE
CROSSWALKS AND ALL THE THINGS HAPPENING, I'D RATHER NOT
WATER DOWN THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE I'M THAT OUTRAGED BY IT.
1:05:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
1:05:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL CHIP IN ON THIS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON IS SAYING.
IF THAT WAS TO HAPPEN, THEN WE KNOW WHY HE'S DOING IT.
IT'S A POLITICAL -- I'M NOT GETTING INVOLVED WITH ANYBODY IN
GOVERNMENT.
I'M TELLING YOU THEM, HIM, THEY, HER, WHATEVER, YOUR TURN
WILL COME -- THE WAVE WILL COME TO AN END.
1:06:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OBVIOUSLY, I MISSED THE BEGINNING.
MR. SHELBY, THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED FOR LEGAL SUFFICIENCY AND
ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
1:06:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
1:06:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS APPROVED
BY ME AS TO FORM.
AS TO THE CONTENT, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE RECEIVED A
COPY OF IT THIS MORNING AND SO HAS THE CITY ATTORNEY.
1:06:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND?
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER -- I HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR
CLENDENIN, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
1:06:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MAKE IT CLEAR WHICH ONE WE'RE VOTING ON.
1:06:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONE WITH THE STAPLE.
THE MOST RECENT ONE WITH THE CORRECT PUNCTUATION.
TWO SIDED.
1:07:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I FLUNKED PUNCTUATION IS WHAT I'VE BEEN
TOLD.
1:07:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
1:07:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
1:07:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:07:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK MR. VIERA MAY HAVE SOMETHING.
AND WHILE YOU WERE OUT, MS. KOPESKY, WE SANG HAPPY BIRTHDAY
TO YOU.
1:07:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'LL HAVE TO ROLL THE TAPE.
1:07:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BELIEVE ME, YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE
RECORDING.
1:07:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SHE WAS IN A MEETING WITH ME.
WE HAVE AN IN-PERSON PRESENTATION ON SEPTEMBER 18th
REGARDING FIRE STATION 24.
I WANTED TO MOTION SPECIFICALLY THAT THIS IN-PERSON
PRESENTATION, PRESENTLY SET TO BE IN PERSON, INCLUDE UPDATES

ON THE FOLLOWING ISSUES.
I HAVE IT HERE FOR THE CLERK, ET CETERA, ON THE DESIGN BOTH
INTERNAL, EXTERNAL, INCLUDING CURRENT TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE,
RECOMMENDED STORMWATER SOLUTION WITH VISUAL MAP, RECOMMENDED
POWER LINE SOLUTION WITH TIMELINE TO ALIGN WITH TECO,
OUTCOME OF THE GRAND TREE ASSESSMENT PRELIMINARY FACADE
IMAGES.
I'M READING THIS JUST FOR THE RECORD.
HAGAR WROTE ALL THIS FOR ME AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL.
PERCENTAGE OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE SPACE, NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES
THAT WILL STAFF THE STATION UPON OCCUPANCY, ESTIMATED DATE
FOR PUBLIC INPUT, UPDATED PROJECT SCHEDULE REFLECTING KEY
MILESTONES, ANY RISK OF OPPORTUNITIES TO PROJECT SCHEDULE OR
OPPORTUNITIES, EXCUSE ME AND CURRENT BUDGET ASSESSMENTS BY
LINE ITEM.
JUST THAT THEY BE ABLE TO OPINE ON THIS.
THEY CAN DO THIS IN WRITTEN FORM, BUT JUST SO THEY HAVE A
RESPONSE AND I HAVE THIS HERE FROM MS. KOPESKY.
THIS IS SEPTEMBER 18.
IT'S ALREADY ON THE CALENDAR.
1:08:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS IS A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION AND
YOU'LL PROVIDE THAT TO THE CLERK.
1:08:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO GIVE VERY SPECIFIC
CLARIFICATION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA ADDING A

CLARIFICATION TO THE ALREADY EXISTING ITEM.
WE HAD A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
1:09:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:09:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE WE GO, SPEAKING OF THAT, I KNOW WE
DID THIS ONCE BEFORE.
OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, IF YOU ALL WOULD GO THROUGH
FUTURE AGENDA, SEE STAFF REPORTS, BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS
IN HERE FOR YEARS.
THINGS THAT MAYBE WE COULD REMOVE AND UPDATE AND
REINVIGORATE IT, PUT A NEW ONE ON.
TAKE IT AS AN IOU.
REINVENT IT, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL SO WE CAN DO IT.
1:09:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE A FRIEND, HE IS A CITY OF TAMPA
RESIDENT, MANUEL RIVERA, FOUR YEARS AGO TODAY HIS SON NADJI
WAS MURDERED.
A PICTURE OF NADJI THERE WITH HIS MOTHER AND FATHER.
HE WAS A KING HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE.
1:10:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GUN VIOLENCE.
1:10:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH.
PARTY.
TRAGIC.

THEY HAVEN'T FOUND THE MURDERERS AND HIS PARENTS HAVE TO
LIVE WITH THAT EVERY DAY.
IT WAS HIS ONLY SON.
HIS ONLY SON.
HE WANTED TO BECOME A MECHANIC LIKE HIS DAD.
JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PUBLICLY.
1:10:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S A HUGE STAIN ON OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
THAT WE CAN'T RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
IT'S SO SAD.
CHOOSE NOT TO RESOLVE, YEAH.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'LL SEE YOU ALL AT 5:01 P.M.
THANK YOU.

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