TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:01:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
-- TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
LET'S SEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
MR. MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE THE
INVOCATION.
9:01:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TODAY, OUR GUEST FOR THE INVOCATION IS A SENIOR POLICY
ADVISOR WITH HOLLAND AND KNIGHT'S PUBLIC POLICY AND
REGULATION PRACTICE GROUP AND IS THE CO-CHAIR OF THE FIRM'S
FLORIDA GOVERNMENT ADVOCACY TEAM.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, GOVERNOR MARTINEZ SERVED AS MAYOR OF
TAMPA FROM 1979 TO 1986.
THEN HE WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA AND SERVED FROM 1987
TO 1991 AND WAS THEN APPOINTED UNDER PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W.
BUSH FROM 1991 TO 1993 AS THE DRUG CZAR FOR THE UNITED
STATES.
IT'S MY HONOR AT THIS TIME TO WELCOME GOVERNOR MARTINEZ TO
GIVE THE INVOCATION.

PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
9:02:18AM >> THANK YOU.
LET US BOW OUR HEADS.
ALMIGHTY GOD, AS WE BEGIN THE PROCESS OF DELIBERATING THE
PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, LET'S BLESS THE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL
WITH WISDOM, THAT THEY ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE IN AN INFORMATIVE
WAY, THAT THERE IS NO HOSTILITY AS WE SERVE THE PEOPLE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, THAT WE ACT IN A FASHION THAT ALL BENEFIT
FROM YOUR ACTIONS, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE VULNERABLE AND
NOT ABLE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
THIS CITY HAS BEEN BLESSED WITH GREAT LEADERSHIP, INCLUDING
THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THIS CITY COUNCIL.
WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM WISDOM, THAT THEY
CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THE VERY HONEST AND DELIBERATE WAY,
THAT THEY PUT PEOPLE FIRST, NOT THEMSELVES AND AT THE END OF
EACH DAY OF SERVICE, THAT THEY THANK GOD THAT THEY LIVE HERE
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:03:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR.
9:03:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOVERNOR, WOULD YOU PREFER GOVERNOR OR
CZAR?
9:03:44AM >> WELL, MY WIFE STILL CALLS ME BOBBY.
GET HER TO SAY BOB AFTER 70 YEARS, BUT I HAVE NOT SUCCEEDED.

ANYWHERE FROM BOB, BOBBY -- DON'T CALL ME ROBERT.
NOBODY CALLS ME THAT.
I WON'T ANSWER IF YOU CALL ME ROBERT.
9:04:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU BACK IN OLD CITY
HALL.
9:04:05AM >> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT SESSION.
9:04:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:04:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:04:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:04:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:04:16AM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?
9:04:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:04:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:04:19AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A EQUAL QUORUM.
9:04:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA IS RUNNING SLIGHTLY
BEHIND.
HE SHOULD BE HERE ANY MOMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SESSION OF SEPTEMBER 4, 2025 AND
THE EVENING SESSION HELD SEPTEMBER 11th, 2025.
MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S GO THROUGH SOME HOUSEKEEPING ON THE AGENDA.
I HAVE A WALK-ON, WHICH YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE A COPY IN FRONT
OF YOU.
I BELIEVE THEY DISTRIBUTED IT.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE PLACE THAT AFTER CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS,
ITEM NUMBER 47.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM NUMBER 69, A REQUEST TO MOVE THAT TO A TIME CERTAIN
AFTER LUNCH AT 1:30.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO AND MR. SHELBY.
9:05:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT ITEM WAS THAT?
9:05:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 69.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:05:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, YOU ALSO HAVE THE
HEARING AT 1:30.
THIS WILL PRECEDE THE HEARING.

THANK YOU.
9:05:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM ABBYE FEELEY TO CONTINUE ITEM 71 TO
OCTOBER 23.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
WRITTEN STAFF REPORT, DATE TO BE DETERMINED, ITEM 73.
WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THAT TO A DATE TO BE
DETERMINED.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
REQUEST ON ITEM 77 TO MOVE IT TO NOVEMBER 20.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.

REQUEST TO MOVE ITEM 78 TO OCTOBER 9 FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
STAFF REPORTS, I BELIEVE NUMBER 70, BRANDON WILL BE HERE TO
DO A PRESENTATION PER YOUR REQUEST.
9:06:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:06:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
HOW ELSE ARE WE DOING ON STAFF REPORTS?
ANYTHING ELSE?
ANY OTHER NOTES?
9:06:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
66 AND 67.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED STAFF.
9:07:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M GOOD WITHOUT THEM.
9:07:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
66 AND 67 WE DO NOT NEED STAFF.
PUT THAT IN THE RECEIVE AND FILE BUSINESS.
9:07:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:07:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
TAKE IT UP AFTER CONSENT.
NO STAFF FOR 68.
70.
9:07:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
72.
THIS IS OUR DISCUSSION, SO IT NEEDS TO STAY.

9:07:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
72.
GOT IT.
VERY GOOD.
9:07:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE --
9:07:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN'T YET.
9:07:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOR THE WRITTEN?
9:07:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM --
9:07:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
74 THROUGH 76.
9:07:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
74 THROUGH 76, YES.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEMS
74, 75, 76.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
9:08:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:08:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND
ADDENDUM FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VERY GOOD.
THE AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED.
SO STAFF REPORTS, CHIEF BENNETT.

9:08:26AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
ITEM 65, ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE OFFERING TWO THREE-MINUTE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC.
THE FIRST ONE IS, AS YOU KNOW, WE CHANGED OUR AGENDA
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FROM SIRE TO OnBase NOT TOO LONG AGO.
OUR T AND I STAFF, TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION STAFF, HAVE
BEEN IMPORTING ABOUT 4 MILLION RECORDS FROM SIRE INTO
OnBase.
SO THEY WANT TO GIVE A SHORT DEMO TO THE PUBLIC AND TO
COUNCIL ABOUT HOW ACCESSIBLE THOSE FORMER RECORDS ARE.
SO THAT WILL BE A QUICK VIRTUAL PRESENTATION.
SECONDLY, I HEARD A BRIEFING RECENTLY THAT I THINK WOULD
APPEAL TO THE PUBLIC, AND THIS IS SOMETHING COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SOME TIME.
WHEN A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC PURCHASES A RESIDENCE, AND THEY
FIND OUT AFTER THE FACT THAT THERE WAS UNPERMITTED WORK, IT
CREATES A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE FOR THEM.
SO WHAT WE HAD REALIZED IS THAT WE'VE BEEN SENDING OUR
ACCELA RECORDS, WHICH IS OUR PERMITTING PLATFORM, OVER TO
THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE FOR SOME TIME.
YOU CAN ACCESS ALL THOSE PERMITS THROUGH THE PROPERTY
APPRAISER, WHICH PEOPLE TEND TO GO TO MORE SO THAN TO GO
BACK CHECK ON ACCELA.

THEY WILL GIVE A DEMONSTRATION FOR THE PUBLIC.
IF YOU ARE PURCHASING A HOME AND SOMEBODY SAYS I HAVE A NEW
HOT WATER HEATER, NEW ROOF, YOU CAN GO TO THE PROPERTY
APPRAISER TO SEE IF THOSE WERE PERMITTED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE
BUYING SOMETHING ALREADY PREAPPROVED.
JC HUDGISON, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICER, ANOTHER VIRTUAL DEMO
FOR ABOUT THREE MINUTES, BARRING QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
9:09:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
LOOK FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION.
APPRECIATE IT.
9:10:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
CHIEF OF STAFF, I AGREE WITH THAT.
HOWEVER, THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY THAT WE CAN SIMULATE THAT
AND SEND TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT DO THAT KIND OF WORK LIKE
THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE HAS IT.
YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND GO INTO THE FILES AND LOOK AT IT,
LIKE ALL THE LEGAL FIRMS.
SEND A NOTICE THAT YOU CAN DO THAT NOW SO WHEN THEY SELL THE
HOUSE, WE GET VOID OF ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.
9:10:28AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
I THINK AFTER THIS DEMO IT WOULD BE A WORTH
A PARTNERSHIP IN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN BOTH AGENCIES TO
SHARE THAT TO THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY.
9:10:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION VERY
MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
9:10:39AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
IT WAS RECOGNIZED AS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU.

9:10:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE COMMENDATIONS AND
PRESENTATION MODE.
DEANNA FAGGART, ARE YOU ON?
9:11:03AM >> GOOD MORNING.
DEANNA FAGGART, DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING FOR CITY OF TAMPA.
9:11:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOTHING IS GETTING PURCHASED THIS MORNING,
I CAN TELL.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:11:10AM >> SO I HAVE WITH ME A LARGE SEGMENT OF OUR STAFF, BUT NOT
EVERYONE.
SO WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION AT THE OFFICE, BUT I APPRECIATE
THE CONCERN.
9:11:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KNOW I SAID YOUR NAME.
START WITH YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:11:23AM >> DEANNA FAGGART.
SO WE ARE HERE TODAY JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PURCHASING
DEPARTMENT.
THE TEAM BEHIND ME WORKS VERY HARD EVERY DAY AND THE
NATIONAL PROCUREMENT INSTITUTE HAS GIVEN US THE ACHIEVEMENT
OF EXCELLENT IN PROCUREMENT FOR THE 19th YEAR IN A ROW.
THIS AWARD IS INTENDED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE
DEMONSTRATING PROFESSIONALISM, INNOVATION, BEST PRACTICES.
EVERY YEAR THE CRITERIA CHANGES, SO IT'S NOT JUST RESUBMIT
THE SAME APPLICATION.

WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LONG PROCESS OF DOCUMENTING
EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
DIFFERENT JUST PROGRESSIVE IMPROVEMENTS OVER TIME.
TODAY I WANTED TO ALLOW STAFF TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
BUT I'M GOING TO START WITH MICHELLE BLIZZARD, WHO IS MY
EXECUTIVE AIDE WHO IS THE ONE WHO COMPILES THAT APPLICATION
FOR US EVERY YEAR AND SPENDS A LOT OF TIME ON THAT AND WORKS
VERY HARD.
9:12:26AM >> HELLO.
GOOD MORNING.
9:12:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU DON'T WANT TO COME UP.
MAYBE THEY'LL CAPTURE THE GROUP OF YOU ON CAMERA, UNLESS YOU
WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
IT'S NEW HIGH DEFINITION TV SO IT REALLY ZOOMS IN ON YOU
TOO.
9:12:43AM >> NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
9:12:45AM >> YVETTE ROSARIO.
9:12:46AM >> ANTHONY McGHEE.
9:12:48AM >> MISSY.
9:12:50AM >> STEPHANIE DOUGLAS.
9:12:53AM >> CHELSEA.
9:12:55AM >> JILL ELDER.
9:12:57AM >> MICHELLE ESTEVEZ.
9:12:58AM >> CASSIDY BAKER.
9:13:00AM >> CHRISTY.

9:13:01AM >> ERIN ELLIS.
9:13:04AM >> WELCH.
9:13:06AM >> ALDRICH.
9:13:07AM >> SO THIS TEAM REPRESENTS OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM AS WELL AS
INVENTORY.
WE JUST APPRECIATE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO
COME UP AND BRAG A LITTLE BIT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:13:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:13:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
I KNOW YOUR JOB IS NOT EASY.
I CAN SEE WHY YOU DO SUCH AN EXCELLENT JOB BECAUSE YOU HAVE
EXCELLENT EMPLOYEES BEHIND YOU.
NO CHIEF CAN BE A CHIEF UNLESS SOMEBODY IS HOLDING THEM UP.
I WANT TO SAY NOT IN THAT WAY, BUT IN THE RIGHT WAY, SAY
THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.
IT'S NOT EASY TO GET ALL THE THINGS THAT COME IN ON BIDS AND
YOU HAVE TO CHECK, IF YOU HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, CERTIFIED,
INSURANCE, EVERYTHING IS PILED INTO ONE.
IT'S NOT JUST, OH, THIS ONE TAKES IT.
NO, IT'S NOT THAT EASY.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THE WHOLE STAFF, CITY OF
TAMPA, PEOPLE HERE AND WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
CONGRATULATIONS.
9:14:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO ECHO THE CONGRATULATIONS.

19 YEARS IN A ROW IS A REALLY BIG DEAL.
I LOVE THIS PARTICULAR AWARD THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR
SOMETHING NEW EVERY YEAR.
IT REALLY KEEPS YOU FOCUSED ON EVERY AREA BECAUSE IT SEEMS
LIKE YOU DON'T PROBABLY KNOW WHAT'S COMING AND WHAT YOU HAVE
TO DO.
THAT'S A REAL TESTAMENT TO JUST THE ABILITY OF YOUR ENTIRE
STAFF.
IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN THIS MORNING.
IT GETS REALLY EXCITING.
YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD.
9:14:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
FOLKS THAT TURN OUT THIS MONEY, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF
THE STAFF AND HOW RESPONSIBLE YOU ARE AND THE AMOUNT OF
TRUST THAT WE PLACE IN EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR EXCELLENCE.
IT'S NICE TO ALWAYS BE RECOGNIZED.
I SHARE THE SENTIMENT EVERYBODY HERE ON COUNCIL OF OUR
APPRECIATION FOR EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO.
THE FOLKS NOT HERE TODAY, WE APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL.
CHIEF BENNETT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
9:14:59AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
I WOULD.
THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR THE MOMENT AND THE PRIVILEGE TO RECOGNIZE THIS
GROUP.

I WANT TO TELL YOU, DEANNA COMPETED FOR THIS POSITION ABOUT
TWO YEARS AGO.
MR. SPEARMAN, OUR ELONGATED DIRECTOR, RETIRED.
A YEAR AGO, COMING UP RECENTLY THIS TEAM WORKED TIRELESSLY
AROUND THE HURRICANE TO BRING IN SUPPLIES UNDER TREMENDOUSLY
DIFFICULT CONDITIONS TWICE IN A ROW.
THEY SLEPT IN THE EOC.
THEY CONSTANTLY WORKED ON PROCURING THINGS DURING THE
EMERGENCY, AND THEY DID AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING JOB.
SECONDLY, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR RECENTLY TRUSTING THEM
TO ELEVATE SOME OF THE PROCUREMENT STANDARDS AND REPORT
TRANSPARENTLY BACK TO COUNCIL IN THAT SPACE.
IT HELPED MANAGE THEIR WORKLOAD TO DO THINGS OTHER UNDER
UNIQUE CONDITIONS, LIKE TARIFFS AND INCREASES AND ALL THAT.
AGAIN, THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR COLLABORATING WITH US AND
WORKING WITH THE STAFF UNDER THESE CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU.
9:15:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WELL CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
NEXT IS THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AN UPDATE
ON THE ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I SEE OUR F.D.O.T. REPRESENTATIVE AND MOBILITY GUY BACK
THERE.
HEY, MOBILITY GUY.

9:16:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE BRIAN HUNTER.
I KNOW HE NOT A STRANGER TO THIS BODY, BUT HE IS HERE TO
PRESENT ON BEHALF OF F.D.O.T. ON SEVERAL TOPICS THAT ARE A
DIRECT RESULT OF INTERACTIONS AND REQUESTS BY YOU ALL.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO
SOME OF THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION REQUESTS BROUGHT FORTH BY
YOU IN THIS PARTICULAR SETTING AS WELL AS GREAT PARTNERS
WITH US.
OUR SYSTEMS INTERFACE ALL ACROSS THE CITY IN SOME VERY
OBVIOUS PLACES LIKE INTERSTATE RAMPS BUT ALL ACROSS THE
ROADWAY NETWORK ITSELF.
F.D.O.T. ALSO ADMINISTERS A LOT OF FEDERAL FUNDS THROUGH THE
LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM TO FUND CONSTRUCTION ON A LOT OF OUR
CITY OF TAMPA-OWNED ROADWAYS.
SO THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS AND CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE
AND COOPERATE WITH US.
EVERY WEEK, A LOT OF TIMES DAILY.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT.
BRIAN HUNTER HAS A FEW THINGS TO UPDATE YOU ON.
I WILL TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO HIM.
9:17:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, BRIAN.
9:17:33AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I JUST HAVE A --

9:17:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE TO START WITH YOUR NAME.
9:17:39AM >> BRIAN HUNTER WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION.
JUST UPDATE YOU ALL ON A COUPLE OF PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING
ON, LIKE BRANDON SAID, EVERY SINGLE ONE REQUIRES SIGNIFICANT
COORDINATION WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF AND WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONALISM AND EASE WITH WHICH IT IS TO
COORDINATE WITH THEM.
THE FIRST ONE WE RECENTLY COMPLETED, THE DOYLE CARLTON TO
TAMPA SIDEWALK CONNECTION.
I BELIEVE THIS REQUEST CAME OUT OF COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK'S
OFFICE.
IT WAS AN IDEA SHE PRESENTED TO US AND MADE A WHOLE LOT OF
SENSE.
GLAD WE GOT THAT AND WERE ABLE TO PUT IT IN.
THAT IS JUST NORTH OF THE I-275 RAMP THAT GOES TO DOYLE
CARLTON.
THERE WE'RE CONNECTING TAMPA STREET TO THE WATER WORKS PARK
AREA.
WE ALSO PUT IN A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ACROSS DOYLE CARLTON
AND A SPEED TABLE AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.
THAT ONE JUST WRAPPED UP EARLIER THIS YEAR.
IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY HEAVILY USED WHEN I WAS OUT THERE THE
LAST COUPLE OF TIMES.
STARTING EARLY NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE HAVING A LANDSCAPING

PROJECT ON I-275 BASICALLY FROM FLORIBRASKA UP TO
HILLSBOROUGH WITH AN EMPHASIS IN THE ROBLES PARK AREA.
THAT IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF PLANTS GOING OUT THERE.
WE HAVE ALMOST OVER 900 TREES, 3300 PLANTS THAT WILL BE
PLANTED ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
MOST OF THOSE WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THE NOISE BARRIERS.
WE DO HAVE SOME AT THE INTERCHANGES FOR BEAUTIFICATION IN
THAT AREA.
THAT ONE, WE WORKED REALLY HEAVILY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
PICK THE RIGHT FLORIDA FRIENDLY AND SITE APPROPRIATE PLANTS
AND GET THEM IN LOCATIONS EASY TO MAINTAIN.
ANOTHER PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY
SIGNIFICANTLY ON IS THE ASHLEY DRIVE PROJECT.
AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE A PROJECT ON ASHLEY TO
RECONNECT SOME OF THAT GRID NETWORK THERE.
IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT, WE HAVE TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO
THE OFF-RAMPS, ASHLEY AND SCOTT STREET.
NOW, OUR PERMANENT LONG-TERM CONDITION THAT WE ARE GOING TO
REBUILD, THE SCOTT STREET RAMP AND THE RAMP THAT GOES ON TO
275 ABOVE THAT, THAT ONE IS NOT SCHEDULED UNTIL MUCH LATER
IN OUR WORK PROGRAM LIKE 2032.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO IDENTIFY SOME INTERIM
IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN KIND OF PIECE TOGETHER A WAY TO
HANDLE THAT DISPLACED TRAFFIC FROM THE CONSTRUCTION.
SCOTT STREET, WE ARE GOING TO WIDEN THE OFF-RAMP SO WE CAN

PUT ANOTHER DEDICATED TURN LANE ON TO TAMPA TO TAKE SOME OF
THAT AND THEN THERE WILL BE SOME OTHER DETOUR ROUTES THAT
WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT THERE.
HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROJECTS.
THAT WILL WRAP UP EARLY NEXT YEAR.
THAT DOES INCLUDE A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITY ON THE
NORTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE THAT WILL TIE INTO ALL THE TRAILS
IN THE CYPRESS PARK AREA OVER THERE JUST NORTH OF I-4 AND
EVENTUALLY INTO THE GREATER TRAIL NETWORK IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA AND THROUGHOUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND PINELLAS COUNTY
AS WELL.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE'RE CONNECTING TO 4th STREET TRAIL AS
WELL AS ULMERTON TRAIL IN PINELLAS COUNTY.
THE DOWNTOWN OPERATIONAL AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT,
IT'S CURRENTLY ONGOING.
THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETE SOMETIME IN THE MIDDLE OF 2027,
PROBABLY SPRING TO SUMMER IN THAT RANGE.
WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE, WHICH IS THE NEXT BIG PROJECT THAT
WE'LL HAVE COMING ONLINE, THAT WILL START CONSTRUCTION
SOMETIME EARLY NEXT YEAR.
WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF THE EARLY WORKS PROJECT TO HELP WITH
THE TRAFFIC ACCOMMODATION DURING THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
THAT WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION A LITTLE WHILE, LIKE 2031,
EARLY 2032 IS WHEN IT'S COMPLETED.
THOSE ARE ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE, BUT MORE THAN HAPPY TO

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
9:21:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE
UPDATES.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I LEAD A SUNDAY BIKE GROUP THAT HAS
BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CHANGES IN BIKE-PEDESTRIAN
ACCOMMODATIONS.
WE HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE IS THE LIGHT NOW AT OLA AND MLK,
SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FINISHING OF THE PROJECT.
IT'S NICE TO SEE WHAT'S COMING AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT ALL
THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AND JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO
MUCH AND REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE BRINGING THESE
UPDATES.
9:21:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THOSE OF US THAT SERVE ON THE TPO, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF
PEOPLE UP HERE ON THIS PANEL RIGHT NOW, WE ARE VERY AWARE OF
HOW RECEPTIVE AND WHAT A GREAT PARTNER THE FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS, PARTICULARLY THIS DISTRICT
AND WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WHAT YOU ALL DO WITH THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE OUR SECRETARY AND ALL THE SUPPORT STAFF
AND WHAT YOU BRING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING SUCH A GOOD
PARTNER.

OTHER AREAS THAT MAYBE HAVE NOT GREAT RELATIONSHIPS AND
PARTNERSHIPS.
WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THAT.
MAKING SURE, AND PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN A PHONE CALL, YOU
GUYS ARE RETAINING THE UNDERPASS SOMEWHERE IN THAT PROJECT,
MIXED MODAL TYPE OF TRANSITION FROM NORTH OF 275 TO SOUTH OF
275 SO WE DON'T END UP IN ANOTHER CYPRESS SITUATION.
IF YOU COULD TAKE AN IOU ON MAKING SURE WE RESERVE A PATH
UNDERNEATH 275 WITH A WESTSHORE, LIKE TRASK, WHEREVER IT
WILL BE, RESERVE AN ACCESS FROM NORTH TO SOUTH SO WE HAVE A
MIXED MODAL CONNECTION TO ANY OF OUR PROPOSED TRANSPORTATION
OPTIONS.
9:23:00AM >> YEAH, WE DO HAVE A PLAN AT THE DALE MABRY AS WELL AS
WESTSHORE TO PROVIDE CONNECTIONS.
I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE AT RIO STREET, BUT NOT HUNDRED
PERCENT SURE ON THAT ONE.
9:23:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO KEEP HITTING THAT, LIKE CYPRESS,
WHERE WE END UP A SUPPORT STRUCTURE WHERE WE WANT -- THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT.
MAKE SURE YOU BRING OUR GOOD WISHES FROM COUNCIL BACK TO
EVERYBODY THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH.
THANK YOU.
I HAVE A PERSONAL POINT OF PRIVILEGE.
LIKE TO INTRODUCE AN OFFICER, JOSEPH O'NEAL.

COME HERE.
YOU CAN'T GET AWAY.
WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT WILL COME AND GET YOU.
DON'T MAKE ME RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER.
THIS IS OFFICER JOSEPH O'NEAL.
HE IS CELEBRATING 25 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
HE'S BEEN PROTECTING THE CITY --
9:24:06AM >> 45.
9:24:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
45.
45 YEARS.
PROTECTING US.
ALSO IN ADDITION, 20 YEARS IN THE RESERVES HELPING PROTECT
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
I BELIEVE TODAY IS YOUR LAST DAY.
9:24:20AM >> YES, SIR.
9:24:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ONE, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL FOR
YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT THIS COUNCIL IS VERY APPRECIATIVE
OF THE PEOPLE THAT WEAR BADGES AND PROTECT US EVERY DAY.
WE KNOW YOU'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE IN
RETIREMENT.

MAYBE WE'LL SEE YOU RUNNING FOR OFFICE ONE DAY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HE FORGOT TO MENTION A REALLY IMPORTANT
POINT THAT YOU'VE BEEN PROTECTING US AND THE PEOPLE THAT
COME TO THE CHAMBERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:25:03AM >> IT'S INTERESTING.
I NEVER KNEW SO MUCH WENT ON IN CITY COUNCIL.
9:25:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEY, WE'RE THE BEST TV IN TOWN.
9:25:09AM >> IT IS.
IT IS.
9:25:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO ME A FAVOR, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND
SAY SOMETHING TO EVERYBODY?
9:25:15AM >> JOSEPH O'NEAL.
I'VE BEEN HERE 45 YEARS.
I'VE ENJOYED IT.
IT'S A HARD JOB, BUT IT'S WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT.
PUT A LOT INTO IT, YOU GET A LOT OUT.
I MADE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND A LOT OF GOOD TIMES AND BAD
TIMES.
GOOD TIMES OUTWEIGH THE BAD.
9:25:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:25:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OFFICER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO DEAL WITH AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE A NICE

SMILE.
JUST 45 YEARS, AS THE SONG GOES, THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE
PROUD OF.
9:25:50AM >> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
9:25:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, THANK YOU.
OKAY.
WALK AWAY.
[ LAUGHTER ]
WE ARE AT BOARD AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS.
OH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
I DO NOT HAVE THE SHEETS.
SIGN-IN SHEETS.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I MET MICHAEL FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS PAST WEEK.
IT WAS A PLEASURE.
I REALLY ENJOYED MEETING YOU.
9:26:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO, YES, MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
TODAY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRAINING THAT IS COMING UP FOR
GENERATION Z, BUILDING A NEW SCHOOL AND A PATHWAY TO POWER.
OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, YOUNG LEADERS IN EAST TAMPA HAVE
STEPPED UP, FORWARD AND CLARIFY WITH -- THE MESSAGE IS
URGENT AND UNIFIED.

THEY ARE READY TO LEAD.
NOT SOMEDAY, BUT NOW.
THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR PERMISSION.
THEY ARE DEMANDING THE TOOLS.
THAT'S WHY TRAINING IS NOT A LUXURY, IT'S A NECESSITY.
UNLIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP CENTER, TOP-DOWN MODEL,
OUR FOLKS FLIP THE SCRIPT.
WE DON'T JUST TEACH LEADERSHIP, WE CULTIVATE COMMUNITY
POWER.
GROUND-UP BLUEPRINT DESIGNED BY AND FOR THE NEXT GENERATION
OF CHANGE AGENT.
OUR FIRST WORKSHOP STARTS ON OCTOBER THE 30th.
APPLICATIONS ARE NOW BEING OPEN FOR OUR INAUGURAL TRAINING.
WHAT DOES IT INCLUDE -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT,
PROGRAM DESIGN, COMMUNITY ORGANIZING AND MOBILIZING FROM THE
BLOCK TO THE BALLOT.
ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, OUR OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
COMMUNITY BENEFIT, THE CRA.
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
TOOLS FOR EQUITY.
NEGOTIATION.
ENGAGING, POLITICIANS AND OTHERS WITH CONFIDENCE.
FINALLY, PRIVATE-PUBLIC DEAL MAKING.
PUTTING THE COMMUNITY AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE.
THIS IS MORE THAN TRAINING.

IT'S A BLUEPRINT FOR GENERATIONAL WEALTH, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT,
AND BOTTOM-UP TRANSFORMATION TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE TAKING THE
LEADERSHIP, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
9:28:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARTY SHELBY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE RULES?
9:28:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
VERY BRIEFLY, I'D LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE RULES
GOVERNING THE DECORUM OF TODAY'S MEETING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON
THE ITEM.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NOW, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT,
WHICH IS COMING UP NEXT, YOU SHOULD HAVE FILLED OUT A
SPEAKER CARD AND PLACED IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE ROOM.
ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
APPROACH AND SPEAK.

NAMES, PLEASE, HAVE TO BE PRINTED LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT
CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, THAT IS LISTED
AS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA, USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET
THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS INSTEAD, AND YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TO THAT ITEM WILL BE WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED UP.
IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED TO
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING
VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY ALSO
BE RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE CHAIR AND AT THE DISCRETION OF
THE CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER
OF TODAY'S MEETING.
FINALLY, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THAT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
AND ON THE ITEMS THAT ARE SET FOR STAFF REPORTS.
IF IT IS A STAFF REPORT, THE TIME TO SPEAK IS NOW.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD REMAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER
UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE

DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
THANK YOU.
9:30:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
VALERIE AND CHARLIE, YOU SIGNED UP ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT,
IS THAT CORRECT?
AND CHARLIE, PUBLIC COMMENT?
I'LL INCORPORATE YOU INTO THAT LIST.
TARAH BLUMA FOLLOWED BY MARTY GREENE.
9:31:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M TARAH BLUMA.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CIP VOTE THAT YOU HAD THE OTHER
NIGHT.
I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THOSE ITEMS SHOULD HAVE HAD SEPARATE
VOTES.
I KNOW THAT MORE THAN ONE COUNCIL MEMBER HAD CONCERNS WITH
VARIOUS INDIVIDUAL ITEMS.
LUMPING THEM ALL TOGETHER IS PRESSURING PEOPLE TO HAVE TO
OBVIOUSLY APPROVE THE ENTIRE PACKAGE INSTEAD OF BEING
EVALUATED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL MERIT.
ESPECIALLY WITH SO MANY CONCERNS REGARDING THE HUNDRED
MILLION DOLLARS SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT, TWO PEOPLE HAD
MENTIONED -- WE'VE ALREADY THROWN MONEY AFTER THAT PROJECT.
YOU SHOULDN'T THROW MORE MONEY AT A BAD PROJECT JUST BECAUSE

YOU'VE ALREADY SPENT SOME.
LET'S CUT OUR LOSSES AND MOVE ON TO SOME SMALLER PROJECTS
THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MORE FOCUSED
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL CHARITABLE
GIVING TOPIC.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE WITH THE BEST OF
INTENTIONS AND YOUR HEARTS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE TAMPA
BAY AREA, AND WE CAN'T GIVE TO THEM ALL, NOR SHOULD YOU WANT
TO.
JUST BECAUSE AN ORGANIZATION IS DOING GREAT WORK DOES NOT
MEAN THAT IT NECESSARILY SHOULD BE FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
I WORK IN THIS INDUSTRY.
I THINK THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS BACKWARDS.
YOU HAVE ALL THESE GROUPS THAT YOU ALL HAVE DECIDED ARE
GREAT AND YOU WANT TO SUPPORT, AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND
APARTMENTS TO STICK THEM TO.
YOU NEED TO START WITH YOUR GOAL.
IDENTIFY WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT PROGRAMS ARE GOING
TO BEST ACCOMPLISH THAT.
SOME PORTION OF THAT MIGHT BE CITY PROGRAMS.
IT MIGHT BE STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERSHIPS.
IT MIGHT BE DIRECTED PERSONAL GRANTS TO INDIVIDUALS, AND
SOME OF THAT THAT WILL BE AND SHOULD BE WORKING WITH OUR

GREAT NONPROFIT PARTNERS.
BUT AFTER YOU IDENTIFY WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE, YOU NEED TO GO
OUT AND LOOK FOR THE BEST NONPROFIT TO HELP YOU ACCOMPLISH
THAT SPECIFIC GOAL.
JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE GREAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE THE
BEST THING, THE BEST ORGANIZATION TO HELP FOR THAT SPECIFIC
GOAL IN LINE WITH THAT DEPARTMENT.
THEN YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THEIR CHARITY NAVIGATOR RATINGS.
YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTS, REVIEWS FROM
OTHER NONPROFIT PEERS AND THEIR CLIENT POPULATION.
WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE SERVING AND DO THOSE PEOPLE
TRUST THAT ORGANIZATION?
LET'S THEN GIVE THEM SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES AND THEN HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD A SINGLE ONE OF YOU SAY, HEY, WHAT DID WE
GET FOR THE $175,000 ANNUALLY TO THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA?
CAN YOU DEFEND THAT?
9:34:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TIME IS UP.
9:34:43AM >> -- TO RECEIVE 12% OF NONPROFIT FUNDING.
TAMPA HISTORY 8 AND VETERANS 3.
9:34:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TIME IS UP.
PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL.
MARTY GREENE FOLLOWED BY MENTESNOT.
9:34:58AM >> MARTY GREENE WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
I CALL IT SEXUAL ASSAULT, BUT I ALSO CALL IT WOMANIZING.

AS THIS STATES, THIS IS FROM ANOTHER EMPLOYEE THAT WAS
SCARED TO COME FORTH ABOUT MICHAEL BROWN.
IT SAYS, MORE DISTURBING, I PERSONALLY WITNESS A TEMPORARY
EMPLOYEE NAMED ERICA ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY WITH
MR. BROWN WHILE AT WORK.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
MR. BROWN TRY TO BLAME IT ON ANOTHER GIRL THAT IT WAS
ALREADY QUESTIONED BY RODRIGUEZ.
THIS IS A CONTINUALLY PATTERN HAVING SEXUAL ADVANCES, SEXUAL
PROBLEMS WITH EMPLOYEES.
SOMETHING NEED TO BE DEALT WITH WITH THE SITUATION.
THE EMPLOYEES SCARED TO COME FORWARD.
PAM MICHAEL -- PAYING MICHAEL BROWN FOR OVERTIME.
GOT THE WHOLE E-MAIL.
WILLING TO COME FORWARD, BUT LAWYERS DEALING WITH THAT
SITUATION NOW.
WHAT I WANT TO BRING FORWARD TODAY IS, LET'S TALK ABOUT
STORMWATER.
NORTH TAMPA.
THE CITY OF TAMPA PAID OUT $3.2 MILLION, BUT ALTOGETHER IT
WAS PAID OUT $750 MILLION.
WE AT FAULT.
THE REASON WHY -- IT'S CALLED PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.
WE DID NOT MAINTENANCE NONE OF THOSE PUMPS.
I WAS THE ONE GOING TO GET THE DIESEL TRUCKS AND BRING BACK

TO THE YARD SO THE DIESEL COULD BE FILLED UP.
THE REASON THE PUMPS DON'T TURN ON, IF THE COURTHOUSE WENT
-- THE SECOND GENERATOR WOULD KICK ON.
WHY DIDN'T IT KICK ON?
REASON DIDN'T KICK ON, NO DIESEL IN THE TANKS.
THEREFORE, TRYING TO BLAME IT ON HURRICANES, HURRICANE DID
THIS, NO, WE DID THAT.
THAT'S ON US.
WE'RE HUMAN.
WE MAKE MISTAKES.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, FTEs NOT GETTING THE TRAINING WE
NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRY TO CONQUER THIS SITUATION.
ABOUT THE HURRICANES, WE'RE NOT READY FOR IT.
IF ONE COMES RIGHT NOW, THE CITY IS GOING TO GO DOWN.
WHY?
WE COULD TALK ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA, WHAT ABOUT NORTH TAMPA?
ALL THE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE NO CARS, NO MONEY.
ICE IS PICKING THEM UP BECAUSE A LOT OF IMMIGRANTS OVER
THERE.
A LOT OF POOR BLACK PEOPLE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BLAME, THE COUNTY, NO, THE CITY.
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE PUMPS EVERY 30 DAYS.
TURN THE PUMPS ON.
MAKE SURE YOU GO TO THE OUTFALL.

TURN ON THE NEXT ONE.
GO TO THE NEXT OUTFALL.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
TURNING THEM ON, SEE IF THEY ARE WORKING AND THEN NOT
WORKING.
THEREFORE, UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW, ANYBODY COULD REQUEST IT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN REQUEST IT BUT WHO FALL ON,
DEAF EARS?
LIKE I SAY, THE PROBLEMS I HAVE, BRIAN CAMPBELL SAYING
CERTAIN THINGS, HE IS A SERPENT, A SNAKE, SPINELESS LITTLE
MAN.
HE WON'T SAY NOTHING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND I ADDRESS
THAT WITH HIM.
9:38:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. GREEN.
MENTESNOT FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR.
GOOD MORNING.
9:38:08AM >> UHURU.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
A LOT OF TALK GOING ON ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK.
I WANT TO BRING SOME AWARENESS TO THAT.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE OBJECTION SAYING CHARLIE KIRK IS EQUIVALENT
TO MARTIN LUTHER KING OR MOTHER TERESA OR WHO SO FAR.
IT'S A GREAT PROBABILITY THAT TO SOME PEOPLE HE MIGHT BE.
THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THAT OPINION.

BUT TO SOME PEOPLE, TYLER ROBINSON IS LIKE NAT TURNER OR
LIKE JOHN BROWN OR LIKE FRED HAMPTON OR LIKE HUEY P. NEWTON.
TYLER ROBINSON IS LIKE THE RESISTANCE.
SO WHAT ONE PERSON IS TO ONE PERSON IT MIGHT BE TO SOMEBODY
ELSE.
IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND IN LIFE, THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES.
I HAVE CONSEQUENCES FOR COMING HERE TRYING EXPRESS
REPARATIONS.
TRYING TO EXPRESS THAT WE'RE 26% OF THE POPULATION AND WE
NEED 26% OF THE CITY BUDGET RETROACTIVELY FROM 1855.
THAT'S TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU GOT MFs COMING UP HERE TALKING ABOUT A BITCH JUST
TALKED ABOUT 900 TREES AT ROBLES PARK.
THEY TALK ABOUT BIKE PATHS.
THEY TALK ABOUT GREENSPACE.
THEY TALK ABOUT RIVER WALKS, BUT NOBODY IN THIS CITY COUNCIL
IN THE HISTORY OF THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS EVER TALKED ABOUT AN
AVERAGE PLAN, A GENERAL PLAN, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE
AFRICAN, FOR THE 26% OF THE POPULATION OF THIS CITY.
NOBODY HAS EVER TALKED ABOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR HOW
THE AFRICAN IS GOING TO BE HERE IN THIS CITY A THOUSAND
YEARS FROM NOW.
WE GET NOTHING.
PEOPLE COMING DOWN HERE HAVING TO BEG, BEG, BEG, BEG, MADE

AFRICAN PEOPLE OUT OF A BEGGING CLASS AND YOU LAUGH AT IT.
YOU TRY TO STAND UP AND THEY SHOOT YOU RIGHT DOWN.
YOU TRY TO STAND UP FOR WHAT'S DECENT, FOR WHAT'S HUMANE,
AND THEY TRY TO TREAT YOU LIKE, OH, HE'S RADICAL.
HE'S THIS.
THAT PERSON IS THAT.
SHE'S THIS, SHE'S THAT.
NO, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
YOU COME IN A PLACE WHERE THERE IS CITY GOVERNMENT AND YOU
DON'T HEAR THE WORD COLONIALISM, REPARATIONS,
GENTRIFICATION, IN A TIME LIKE TODAY, A SORRY CITY COUNCIL
HAVE NEVER ONCE MENTIONED THE WORD PALESTINE.
GENOCIDE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, RIGHT THIS SECOND IN PALESTINE.
IT'S GOING ON RIGHT HERE.
SEVEN PEOPLE AND NEVER HEARD THE WORD PALESTINE COME OUT OF
THEIR MOUTH.
SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT.
9:41:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, METESNOT.
STEPHANIE POYNOR FOLLOWED BY CONNIE BURTON.
9:41:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, I FIRST OF ALL WANT TO THANK THE STAFF
THAT REACHES OUT TO ME.
I HAVE QUITE A FEW THAT DO REACH OUT TO ME WHEN I DO MY
AGENDA REVIEW.
AND THEY DO ANSWER SOME OF MY QUESTIONS.

THAT'S WHY I DON'T FURTHER PURSUE THEM.
I THINK IT'S REALLY NICE THEY TAKE THE TIME TO ANSWER MY
QUESTIONS.
I THINK MY QUESTIONS ARE RELEVANT BUT NOT ALWAYS.
I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST POINT OUT THAT ASHLEY DRIVE, I HOPE
EVERY PENNY OF IT COMES OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA, IF YOU CAN
EVER GET MONEY OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA BECAUSE FRANKLIN
STREET CAN'T.
WEST RIVER PROJECT, SAME THING, ALTHOUGH I STILL THINK IT
VIOLATES THE COMP PLAN.
NUMBER 26, CLOVER WITH CREDIT CARD FEES, I HOPE THAT'S
WORKING FORWARD ON GETTING US NOT SUPPLEMENTING PEOPLE USING
THEIR CREDIT CARDS INSTEAD OF PAYING CASH OR USING A DEBIT
CARD LIKE NORMAL BUSINESSES.
40 AND 41, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS GOING TO USF, MY MOUTH
HANGS OPEN THAT THEY WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED MIDDLE AND
LOW-INCOME BUSINESSES IN THE 6 TO 99 EMPLOYEES.
I'M THINKING 1 TO 5 IS MIDDLE AND SMALL, LOW-INCOME
BUSINESSES.
IT BLOWS MY MIND.
MY DAD OWNED BUSINESS FOR YEARS.
HE WAS IN THE LAST BUSINESS, AND HE WAS MAKING GOOD MONEY,
AND IF YOU'RE NOT MAKING GOOD MONEY BY THE TIME YOU HAVE SIX
SOLID EMPLOYEES, THEN YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY
WRONG.

BUT I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD LOWER IT DOWN 1 TO 5 EMPLOYEES
AND START THERE.
42 THROUGH 44, 140% OF AMI.
CURRENTLY, ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, IF YOU ARE ONE
PERSON, YOU CAN MAKE $102,000 A YEAR AND QUALIFY TO BUY
THOSE HOMES.
I NEVER MADE THAT MUCH MONEY IN MY ENTIRE FRICKING LIFE IN
ONE YEAR.
THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
I'M FLABBERGASTED THAT WE'LL GIVE UP DECENT SIZE LOTS AND
BUILD ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON IT.
WE TALK ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE.
WE TALK ABOUT GENERATIONAL WEALTH, BUT THESE SHOULD BE GOING
TO FOLKS IN THE 80th PERCENTILE AT LEAST.
PEOPLE MAKING $59,000 A YEAR AS ONE PERSON OR $83,000 A YEAR
FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR.
WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS.
I'M WONDERING WHY WE'RE GIVING AWAY THE MONEY IF WE CAN'T
FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO BETTER WITH WHAT RESULT IN FOR THE
PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MOST IN THE COMMUNITY.
140% AMI IS MARKET RATE.
STOP IT.
NUMBER 45, WE'RE GIVING A 7.7% RAISE TO OUR STAFFING FOR
MOBILITY SERVICES.
I HOPE THAT THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN THERE, THE CONTRACT IS AS

LONG AS MY ARM THAT WE ENSURE AT LEAST 3% IS GOING TO THE
EMPLOYEES AND NOT ALL PUT IN THE POCKET EVERYBODY ELSE ABOUT
A 3% PRICE INDEX INCREASE.
NUMBER 72, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE PEOPLE
WHO OWN THEIR HOUSES AS OF SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR WHEN THE
HURRICANES HIT, WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP OFFSET THE FEES THAT
THEY HAVE FOR SOMETHING ELSE --
9:44:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
CONNIE BURTON, FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
9:44:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
STEPHANIE TOOK UP MOST OF WHAT I WANT TO SAY.
FOCUSING ON ITEM NUMBER 3 AND 4, WHICH IS THE MAYOR'S
PREROGATIVE TO DO WHAT SHE DO, I WAS JUST DOWNTOWN THE OTHER
DAY AND LOOKING AT THE KRESS BUILDING.
ABANDONED FOR YEARS.
PROBABLY WON'T EVER BE TOUCHED.
PEOPLE CAN CHEER AND HOLLER ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS GOING
ON IN PUBLIC HOUSING, ROBLES PARK.
MANY OF THOSE RESIDENTS WON'T RETURN.
YOU GO RIGHT NOW TO THE ENCORE, WHERE THEY TOOK PUBLIC
HOUSING PROPERTY AND BUILD IN A HOTEL, I DON'T KNOW PROBABLY
THE WORKERS WOULD BE SOME OF THE FORMER RESIDENTS, BUT I
CAN'T SEE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO LIVE UP THERE, RENT UP THERE
TO ENJOY THAT.

YOU GO RIGHT THERE ON RAY CHARLES BOULEVARD WHERE THEY GIVE
THE GREAT SPEECHES OF HOW THIS REDEVELOPMENT IS HELPING POOR
PEOPLE, THEY HAVE AN ANSWER CORE DAY CARE CENTER.
IT'S ADVERTISED AS THAT, BUT DEAD EMPTY.
NOT A CHILD IN SIGHT.
NOT A CHILD IN SIGHT.
GO OVER THERE AND LOOK AT IT.
1107 RAY CHARLES BOULEVARD.
SO ALL OF THIS STUFF, ALL THIS APPOINTMENT OF THESE PEOPLE
TO THE BOARD, WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THEM TO COME TO THIS
PODIUM TO TELL YOU WHAT ARE THEY DOING, REALISTIC, HOME
OWNERSHIP FOR POOR PEOPLE.
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH THEY
HAVE BEEN BUSTED OUT AND PUSHED OUT INTO THE SUBURBS, INTO
THE COUNTY, HOW HAVE THEIR LIVES IMPROVED?
THE ONLY THING THAT HAS HAPPENED IS OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF
MIND.
ITEM NUMBER 41, 42, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN'T SAY ANYMORE, THE
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IS WHERE THESE LLCs GETTING THE
PROPERTIES FOR FREE.
YOU ELEVATE THEM.
BUT THEN THEY COME BACK AND SELL IT AS IF THEY ARE SOME REAL
BROKERS.
NOW WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE AGREEMENT, THEY CAN SELL IT OR
RENT BECAUSE MORE POOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WON'T BE ABLE

TO BUY AT THIS PRICE.
YOU ALL KNOW IT.
YOU ALL KNOW IT.
BUT IF IT MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD SAYING THAT YOU ARE GIVING
MONEY BACK IN SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES, YOU ARE REACHING
OUT TO SOME OF THE MOSTLY AFRICAN NONPROFITS THAT ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING CARE OF POOR PEOPLE.
IT IS ALL B.S.
IT HAS NOT HELPED THE MASSES OF THE PEOPLE.
IT HAS NOT CHANGED THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OF OUR PEOPLE.
AND YOU CAN PUT ALL THIS STUFF ON YOUR BROCHURES AS YOU MOVE
UP POLITICALLY.
THE PEOPLE ARE HERE TO WILL HE MIND YOU.
IT IS NOT WORKING.
9:47:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY VALERIE BULLOCK.
9:47:38AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
ITEM 72 IS TO ALLOW HURRICANE VICTIMS TO PAY THE OLD
SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE.
ANYONE WHO APPLIED BEFORE THE FEE WAS RAISED ON APRIL 17 IS
ALREADY EXEMPT FROM THE HIGHER FEE, AND THAT IS SIX MONTHS
AFTER HURRICANE MILTON.
SO IT PROBABLY APPLIES TO MOST PEOPLE WHO STILL OWN THEIR
HURRICANE DAMAGED HOME.

MAYBE SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.
AFTER THE HURRICANES, THE CITY WAIVED PERMIT FEES FOR MONTHS
TO HELP OUT HURRICANE IMPACTED RESIDENTS, BUT THEY DID NOT
WAIVE THE PERMIT FEES FOREVER.
THERE WAS AN END DATE.
BUT EVEN SO, THIS PROPOSAL IS OKAY WITH ME UNDER TWO
CONDITIONS.
ONE, IT MUST BE FOR THE PERSON WHO LIVED IN THE HOUSE DURING
THE HURRICANE, NOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BOUGHT OUT THE OLD
HOMEOWNERS.
TWO, MUST BE A LEGITIMATE OBSTACLE LIKE TREE OR DITCH, NOT
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT A SIDEWALK OR NO CONNECTING
SIDEWALK.
REMEMBER, NO ONE HAS TO PAY THIS FEE.
THEY CAN BUILD A SIDEWALK.
WHEN WE AMENDED THE CODE IN 2021, THE NO SIDEWALK EXCUSE WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE ELIMINATED.
THOSE ARE THE PLACES THAT NEED THEM THE MOST.
BUT WE WERE TOLD IT NEEDED TO STAY FOR SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES
AND WOULD BE RARELY USED.
INSTEAD, THE EXACT OPPOSITE HAS HAPPENED.
REASON NUMBER ONE, FOUR REASONS, REASON NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN
USED MORE THAN ALL THE OTHER THREE REASONS COMBINED.
YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGES PER YEAR OF REASON NUMBER ONE
BEING USED.

BUILDERS ARE EXPLOITING THIS EXEMPTION TO INCREASE THEIR
PROFITS.
THE BUILDER OF THIS HOUSE IS ALLOWED TO PAY THE OLD FEE
INSTEAD OF BUILDING SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK.
THIS IS OVER $3 MILLION HOUSE.
THEY COULD AFFORD TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS.
THEY JUST DID IT TO PUT A LITTLE MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET.
THE SAME FOR THIS HOUSE.
THEY SAY THEY SHOULD PAY THE FEE INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN A
SIDEWALK BECAUSE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, UNLIKELY THERE WILL BE
ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT NEARBY.
THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IS OLD.
LIVED IN BY AN ELDERLY PERSON.
COVERED IN VINES.
GOING TO BE SOLD SOON AND REDEVELOPED.
THIS IS A MAP OF THE VIRGINIA PARK PIPES PROJECT.
THE GREEN IS ALL THE INFILL SIDEWALK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
BUILT TO CLOSE THE GAPS.
AND A LOT OF THE BLUE ACTUALLY, THERE'S GREEN NEXT TO IT OR
BEHIND IT, BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT.
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS MANY GAPS.
IF THE BUILDERS HAD BUILT SIDEWALKS INSTEAD OF ABUSING THE
LOOPHOLES, WE COULD DO MORE WITH OUR MONEY AND SPREAD IT
FARTHER.

THOSE GAPS ARE GOING TO BE FILLED WITH THE ALL FOR
TRANSPORTATION MONEY.
WE DIDN'T GET IT SO IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WE STILL HAVE THAT GOAL AND THINK OF HOW MUCH FARTHER OUR
MONEY CAN GO IF THERE'S LESS GAPS SO THAT WHEN WE FINALLY
GET TO DO IT, IT CAN GO ALL AROUND SCHOOLS AND PLACES THAT
REALLY NEED IT.
I'M FINE WITH APPROVING THIS ALLOWANCE IF YOU MEET THE TWO
CONDITIONS I OUTLINED.
REMEMBER, NO ONE HAS TO PAY THE FEE.
THEY CAN JUST BUILD A SIDEWALK AND THE I DON'T WANT A
SIDEWALK IS REALLY NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR
COMMUNITY.
9:50:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. BENNETT.
VALERIE BULLOCK, FOLLOWED BY CHARLIE ADAMS.
9:50:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
VALERIE BULLOCK.
I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING THAT ONE OF YOU ALL HAD
APPOINTED DIANE ZIEGLER TO THE CRA BOARD.
I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING THAT SHE TOLD ME ON Facebook.
I TOLD HER THAT SHE WAS A PROBLEM AND THE WORDS SHE SAY SHE
HEARD EAST TAMPA PEOPLE, AND SHE DIDN'T LIKE US, SHE
SHOULDN'T HAVE MOVED OVER THERE.
WHEN I SAID US, I MEANT BLACK POOR PEOPLE.
THIS IS WHAT SHE SAID.

NO, VALERIE, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS HURT EAST TAMPA.
IT WASN'T ON MY WATCH THAT ALL THOSE HUNDREDS OF NEGLECTED
HOMES IN THE HANDS OF SO-CALLED HOMEOWNERS ENDED IN SUCH
DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS AND NEED TO BE ON LIFE SUPPORT
SURVIVING ONLY WITH TAX FUNDING.
NOT MY WATCH THAT YOUR EAST TAMPA PONDS ENDED LOOKING LIKE
DUMPS AND NOT MY DEAL THAT PEOPLE DUMP THEIR FREE LUNCHES
RIGHT IN THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, BUT WE CLEAN UP
THE HOOD EVERY DAY AND ALL IN TEN GALLONS OF TRASH.
THAT'S 70 GALLONS A WEEK.
I NEVER SEE YOUR FACE OUT THERE CLEANING UP THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, SO YOU MUST BE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
THE BEST THING HAPPENING IS THAT PEOPLE WITH MORE SKILLS AND
TALENT ARE MOVING IN RESTORING SANITY, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU
RESENT.
SOMEBODY PUT ON THE EAST TAMPA CRA BOARD AND SHE HAS VIEWS
LIKE THAT.
I'M ASKING YOU, ARE THOSE YOUR VIEWS ALSO?
BECAUSE WHAT SHE SAID WAS VERY DEROGATORY.
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME SHE SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHEN I POST ON Facebook, WE GO BACK AND FORTH.
HER Facebook NAME IS -- WOODS.
ONE TIME SHE TOLD ME I WANT TO LIVE IN -- WHATEVER THAT
MEANS BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD THAT WORD BEFORE.
MY HOUSE LOOK JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE'S HOUSES ON HARBOUR

ISLAND.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 3 AND 4.
THE PEOPLE BEING APPOINTED TO TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
HAVE THEY BEEN VETTED?
HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO COULD FIT THAT SLOT
MORE BETTER?
WHEN I SEE, THE MAYOR APPOINTS SOMEBODY TO TAMPA HOUSING
AUTHORITY, WE DON'T LOOK AT THEM.
SHE SAID SHE WANT THEM AND IT'S RUBBER STAMPED AND STAY
THERE AND RETIRE THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.
THEY ARE SO DETACHED FROM POOR WORKING PEOPLE AND WHAT'S
GOING ON IN TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTY IT'S JUST
RIDICULOUS.
IF THE PERSON GO UP THERE AND THEY DON'T -- JUST BECAUSE SHE
APPOINT THEM AND THEY WANT THE MONEY, IF THEY CAN'T DO THEIR
JOB, THEY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
I'M AGAINST THE INFILL LOTS, GETTING MONEY FROM CRA TO BE AT
THE HOUSES.
THEY WANT TO BUILD THEM FOR 140% AMI, NOW THEY ARE GOING TO
GET GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
IF THE CITY GIVES THEM THE LOT AND THE CRA GIVES THEM THE
MONEY TO BUY IT, WE NEED TO PUT SOME LIMITATIONS AND MAKE
THEM SIGN CONTRACTS.
140% AMI.
THAT IS TOO MUCH.

THEY CAN BUILD TWO HOUSES, THEY ARE TOWN HOUSES.
WE NEED DENSITY THERE.
THEY WANT TO PUT IT EVERYWHERE ELSE.
LET'S PUT IT THERE AND THEN YOU SERVE TWO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF
ONE.
9:54:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. BULLOCK.
WE HAVE CHARLIE ADAMS AND THAT IS THE LAST SPEAKER I HAVE ON
MY LIST.
9:54:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:54:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID YOU SIGN A CARD?
I WILL SEEK THAT OUT.
THANK YOU.
9:54:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS MORNING.
I WASN'T AVAILABLE.
CHARLIE ADAMS, REPRESENTATIVE OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.
I WASN'T HERE TO SPEAK JUST LAST TUESDAY IN REGARDS TO A FEW
ITEMS SPOKE ON FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND PAYING
ATTENTION TO THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE
THAT WE'RE NOT FORGOTTEN.
MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU TAKING ACTION.
MANISCALCO, CARLSON, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
CHARLIE MIRANDA, YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL.

1925, SEPTEMBER 1925, JOE SIRE RICHARDSON, A VISIONARY THAT
CAME TO THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY AND ENVISIONED A
TOURIST ATTRACTION THAT BROUGHT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE
WORLD.
SEEN SOMETHING UNIQUE AND ADDED VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY AND
ADDED VALUE TO TAMPA.
NEARLY A HUNDRED YEARS LATER AND NOW WE'RE TAKING ACTION TO
-- WE MAY NOT SEE WHAT IT ONCE WAS, HOPEFULLY SOMETHING EVEN
MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN THE PAST.
MY FAMILY IS FROM SPRINGHILL.
THE ORIGINAL SPRINGHILL.
AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS BETWEEN WATERS
AVENUE AND BUSCH BOULEVARD.
MY GRANDFATHER WOULD TELL ME STORIES ABOUT HOW HIS MOTHER
WOULD HAVE TO HAVE PASSES IN ORDER TO CROSS WATERS IN ORDER
TO GET TO SULPHUR SPRINGS TO WORK.
HE ALSO TOLD ME STORIES ABOUT HOW HE WOULD HAVE TO EITHER GO
-- IN ORDER TO SWIM IN A NATURAL SPRING, HAVE TO EITHER GO
BEFORE THE SPRING OPENED OR AFTER BECAUSE IT WAS WHITES
ONLY.
CALLED BLOODY SUNDAYS.
WHOEVER WON THE FIGHT THAT DAY, THAT'S WHO WOULD SWIM AND IT
WOULD GO BACK AND FORTH.
IT WAS A THRIVING COMMUNITY.
ECONOMIC BOON THAT WAS HAPPENING DURING THE '20s AND INTO

THE 1930s, UNTIL THE TREASURE COAST HURRICANE CAME AND
FLOODED THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY.
MY FAMILY AT THE TIME AND MANY OTHER THOUSANDS OF BLACKS
FROM THE AREA, 1920s, '30s, DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE
CAPITAL.
I ASK AS REDEVELOPMENT COME, CHANGE COME, THAT WE PRIORITIZE
THE MINORITY COMMUNITIES IN REGARDS TO JOB CREATION AND
ENTREPRENEURSHIP, ACCESS TO CAPITAL SO THAT WE CAN TAKE PART
OF CHANGING OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE TAKE PART OF BEING PART
OF REDEVELOPING AND GROWING OUR COMMUNITY.
SO AS CONTRACTORS AND DEVELOPERS ARE AWARDED THESE
CONTRACTS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY PRIORITIZE HIGHER WITHIN THE
SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
9:57:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHARLIE.
NEXT SPEAKER.
IF YOU WOULD START WITH YOUR NAME.
GO AHEAD.
I DON'T HAVE YOUR CARD, BUT WE'LL FIND IT.
9:57:26AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I WILL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
I'M GOING TO START WITH ADAM.
HE WAS LYNCHED DECEMBER 16, 1859.
TO MY RECOLLECTION, THAT IS THE EARLIEST ONE I COULD FIND.

HIS CASE WAS APPEALED.
HE WAS DEFENDED -- O.B. HART DEFENDED HIS CASE.
WHEN HE DEFENDED THE CASE, HE WENT TO GET AN APPEAL.
WHILE OUT GETTING THE APPEAL, A MOB STORMED THE JAIL,
REMOVED ADAM AS WELL AS A WHITE MAN WHO WAS SCHEDULED TO BE
LYNCHED AND THEY BOTH WERE LYNCHED ON THE EDGE OF THE SCRUB.
HERE IS THE ARTICLE DESCRIBING IT.
MAN BY THE NAME OF LUKE MOORE WAS KILLED -- WAS ALLEGEDLY
MURDERED BY ADAM.
AT THE TIME, A MAN JOHN BROWN UP IN HARPERS FERRY WAS TRYING
TO START A RAID WITH ENSLAVED PEOPLE AND THEY LYNCHED HIM AS
WELL.
THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA WERE KIND OF IN A BIT OF AN UPROAR AND
DID NOT WANT ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED HERE.
HE WAS LYNCHED DECEMBER 2 AND ADAM DECEMBER 16.
HERE IS AN ARTICLE TALKING ABOUT HIM BEING LYNCHED THE DAY
BEFORE ALONG WITH A WHITE MAN, GEORGE BUCKLEY AND THEN THE
FINAL ARTICLE IS ABOUT A MAN COMING BACK TO TAMPA, GIVING AN
ACCOUNT ABOUT THE MAN LYNCHED NEAR THE SCRUB.
HERE IS A SLIDE ABOUT THE TOWN OF TAMPA, HOW IT WAS FIRST
CREATED.
TAMPA AT THE TIME OF ADAM'S LYNCHING WAS ONLY TEN YEARS OLD.
VILLAGE OF TAMPA STARTED IN 1849 AFTER A GREAT GALE CAME TO
TAMPA, WHICH WAS A HURRICANE.
THEY DECIDED TO TURN INTO A VILLAGE BECAUSE ALL THE LAWS

WERE CREATED BASED OFF THE COUNTY.
ALL OF THE CATTLE, IT WAS A CATTLE INDUSTRY.
THEY WERE LIKE WE NEED TO CREATE OUR OWN LITTLE THING.
THEY STARTED THE VILLAGE OF TAMPA 1849.
REINCORPORATED IN 1855.
SAME YEAR 1855, COURTHOUSE WAS CREATED.
THIS IS A COURTHOUSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET
FROM US, ACROSS KENNEDY.
LAFAYETTE FORMALLY NAMED KENNEDY.
NOW IT IS THE LOCATION OF THE POLICE STATION, THE BIG BLUE
BUILDING.
WHAT ALSO HAPPENED AT THE COURTHOUSE WERE SLAVE OPTIONS.
THESE ARE SOME SLAVE OPTIONS -- SORRY, SOME ARTICLES ABOUT
SLAVE AUCTIONS THAT TOOK PLACE IN TAMPA.
PUBLIC OUTCRY IN THE FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE IN TAMPA
HIGHLIGHTED IN ALL THOSE ARTICLES.
THEN WE GET TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE DURING THAT TIME IN
THE SLAVE CENSUS.
SOME OF THEIR NAMES ARE STILL ON THINGS TODAY.
WE HAVE HOOKERS LAKE, ALSO HOOKER'S POINTE, LAKE HOOKER.
YOU HAVE ROBERT GAMBLE WHO HAS A PLANTATION NEAR ELLENTON
MALL.
SIMEON L. SPARKMAN, THE UNCLE OF STEPHEN SPARKMAN WHARF
NAMED AFTER, JAMES McKAY, MCKAY BAY, WILLIAM ASHLEY, WHICH
HE HAS A LOVE STORY.

I SAY THAT WITH RABBIT EARS.
LOVE STORY, OAKLAWN CEMETERY.
10:00:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS BOARD AND ADMINISTRATIVE
APPOINTMENTS.
IS SUL HEMANI IN THE HOUSE?
HOW ABOUT THOMAS MURPHY?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:00:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I LOOKED FOR ANYTHING ABOUT SUL HEMANI.
ALL IT WAS WAS A RECONSIDERATION.
THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WASN'T THERE.
ALL I COULD FIND FOR THE PERSON IS THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
THEREFORE I CAN'T SUPPORT THEM.
10:01:22AM >> I WILL RESCIND MY MOTION ON THAT ONE.
10:01:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN CONTINUE IT.
10:01:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHOULD WE CONTINUE IT TO GIVE A CHANCE FOR
THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE WHATEVER BACKGROUND AND
MAYBE --
10:01:37AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:01:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY ISSUE, THOUGH, STILL, IS THAT IT IS TAMPA
HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND WE NEED PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND THIS PERSON, ACCORDING TO THEIR ADDRESS, LIVES IN LIKE
TOWN N' COUNTRY.

THAT'S JUST, AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPABLE PEOPLE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME ON BOARDS AND
COMMISSIONS, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE WHO -- I JUST
SIMPLY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT
LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, JUST BY VIRTUE THAT THEY DON'T
LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
HOUSING IS A CRITICAL, CRITICAL PART OF OUR CITY, AND IT IS
WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING OF THE TOP THREE THINGS, TWO OF THEM
INVOLVE HOUSING.
THEY SHOULD BE SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:02:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:02:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE CONTINUE THIS TO ANOTHER TIME.
MY POSITION ON THAT IS, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE WHERE
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIVE IN THE
CITY, THERE IS A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT SHOULD BE
APPLIED FOR THAT.
I CALL THAT THE JOE GRECO RULE.
I'M JOKING.
BUT THERE IS A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT SHOULD BE
APPLIED AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.
IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT TO ANOTHER TIME TO INQUIRE
FURTHER, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

10:02:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:02:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M JUST GOING TO -- IT DOESN'T MATTER FOR
ME.
I'M GOING TO VOTE NO.
IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO CONTINUE IT, THAT'S FINE.
MY VOTE WILL STILL BE NO.
10:03:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:03:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IN ORDER FOR ME TO BE HUNDRED PERCENT
SURE WHAT'S GOING ON, NOT SAYING SOMETHING IS WRONG OR
RIGHT, THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AT LEAST I WANT TO GIVE THESE TWO
INDIVIDUALS A CHANCE TO COME HERE AND TELL US WHERE THEY
LIVE.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AT ALL.
MIGHT BE HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE GIVEN ANY CHANCE.
I DON'T KNOW THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS AT ALL.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS TO WHY AND SO FORTH.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT FROM THEM.
10:03:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, FOLLOWED BY
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:03:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND ONE.
ITEM NUMBER 4, HE HAD A FULL APPLICATION WHERE HE TALKED
ABOUT -- THAT WAS A FULL APPLICATION.

THE FIRST ONE WASN'T AND DOESN'T LIVE IN THE CITY.
THE SECOND PERSON DOES LIVE IN THE CITY AND HAD A FULL
APPLICATION.
NUMBER FOUR, THOMAS MURPHY LIVES IN THE CITY, VERY ACTIVE IN
THE CAC OF CENTRAL PARK.
10:04:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
10:04:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THOMAS MURPHY IS A GREAT ADDITION.
AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND AND WE ASKED FOR THIS
BEFORE, THAT IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS TRYING TO BE
REAPPOINTED, THAT THEIR ORIGINAL APPLICATION COME ON.
IT WASN'T THERE.
AGAIN, BUT FOR ME, IT'S JUST THE PERSON NOT LIVING IN THE
CITY.
10:04:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:04:26AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST, I WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH YOU LIVING
IN THE CITY, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT THE PERSON USED THEIR WORK ADDRESS
INSTEAD OF HOME ADDRESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD
RATHER CONTINUE IT AND THEN LOOK AT IT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
DID SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION?
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT.
10:04:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD WE LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
CONTINUE ITEM 3 TO OCTOBER 23rd?
10:04:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
10:04:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO CONTINUE ITEM 3 TO OCTOBER
23.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:05:08AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:05:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONTINUING NUMBER 3.
AYES HAVE IT.
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:05:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL MOVE THE RESOLUTION, LIKE I SAID, I READ
HIS APPLICATION, THOMAS MURPHY HAS COME IN FRONT OF US AS A
CAC MEMBER.
THAT IS AN AREA THAT DOES A LOT WITH TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY
ALREADY BECAUSE ENCORE AND CENTRAL PARK IS MOSTLY TAMPA
HOUSING AUTHORITY LAND.
SO I DO SUPPORT HIS NOMINATION.
10:05:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:05:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO I WAS GOING TO MOVE CONSENT.

I WAS GETTING READY.
10:06:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR
RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
10:06:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S TRUE.
ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR BOARDS AND
ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS.
OH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:06:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL MOVE TO CONSENT ITEMS.
ITEMS 5-10.
10:06:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE 5-10.
10:06:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
10:06:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 11 THROUGH 18.
10:06:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, 19 THROUGH
25.

10:06:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE ITEMS 19 THROUGH 25.
10:06:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU.
FINANCE COMMITTEE, 26 THROUGH 29.
10:06:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE 26 THROUGH 29.
10:06:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM
MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE, 30-44.
10:07:04AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MOVE 30-44.
10:07:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I DO NOT DISAGREE
WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE
FACT OF THE INFILL LOTS.
NOT ALL OF THESE INFILL LOTS ARE SINGLE-FAMILY.
WE ARE WORKING -- QUITE A FEW OF THESE ARE MULTIFAMILY.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE WORKED HARD TO
SEE THAT THE INFILL LOTS FOR THE INFILL PHASE THREE DO HAVE
MULTIFAMILY ON THEM.
10:07:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WE ARE AT 45 THROUGH 47.
10:07:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 45 THROUGH 47.
10:07:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
10:07:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT, I DID ASK
ABOUT TEMPORARY LABOR FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
I DID ASK ABOUT IF WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING OUR STORMWATER
PEOPLE OFF OF SETTING UP.
I'M TOLD THAT THEY ARE STILL DISCUSSING THAT.
SO WE NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.
10:08:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID WE VOTE ON THAT?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
NOW WE HAVE OUR WALK-ON ITEM.
10:08:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK YOU -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I THINK
YOU OUGHT TO MAKE A MOTION IN NEW BUSINESS THAT WOULD ASK
THE ADMINISTRATION TO REMOVE THAT.
IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS STILL CONSIDERING WHETHER THEY

SHOULD USE STORMWATER MONEY FOR PARADES, WE NEED TO MAKE A
MOTION.
MIGHT NOT BE BINDING BUT AT LEAST MAKE A MOTION OF THE
INTENTION.
10:08:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW.
10:08:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN MAKE A REQUEST.
10:08:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAKE A SUGGESTION.
10:08:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN'T FORCE THEM BUT WE CAN MAKE A
REQUEST.
10:09:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
WALK-ON.
10:09:02AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS JUST A REQUEST TO WALK ON A RESOLUTION TO SET TWO
PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR OCTOBER 9 AND OCTOBER 23 REGARDING A
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND TAMPA BAY WHEEL
BECAUSE OF SOME CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, TAMPA BAY WHEEL
HAD, WE NEED TO SPEED UP THE DEADLINE.
SO THIS WOULD GIVE US TIME FOR THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND THE
REQUIRED TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:09:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:09:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO SET
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:09:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THAT FOR TRANSPARENCY, I UNDERSTAND

WHY THEY ARE MOVING QUICKLY.
I THINK FOR TRANSPARENCY, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED.
SHOULDN'T BE A WALK-ON.
WE'VE SAID IN THE PAST THAT WE DON'T LIKE WALK-ONS.
WE DO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS
SCHEDULE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE
INPUT.
BUT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A WALK ON.
10:09:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:10:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
10:10:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
WE WILL MISS YOU.
WE WON'T MISS YOU.
10:10:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE 66, 67 AND 68.
I WILL JUST SAY THAT I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR 66 AND 67
BECAUSE IT'S MOVING MONEY FROM THE CRA TO THE WEST
RIVERWALK, AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS AT
ALL.
I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THEM.
10:10:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
AND I AGREE.
10:10:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
10:10:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU WANT THIS DISCUSSION NOW?

10:10:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE NOTHING TO DISCUSS.
10:10:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID YOU WANT TO HOLD THE ITEMS UNTIL
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO --
10:11:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL HOLD IT.
10:11:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL MOVE ITEM 68 BECAUSE WE ALREADY APPROVED
THAT AS CRA BOARD.
10:11:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10:00 HEARINGS?
MOTION TO OPEN 10:00 HEARINGS FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
ITEM 48.
10:11:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT I
BROUGHT FORTH ESTABLISHING THE CHARTER IT REVIEW PROCESS
COMMENCING WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CHARTER REVIEW
BOARD.
IT'S HERE FOR YOUR ADOPTION.
10:11:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 48?
>>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN DURING NEW BUSINESS?

>>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT SHOULD HAPPEN DURING NEW BUSINESS.
IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
>>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
>>BILL CARLSON: I THOUGHT WE SCHEDULED THAT FOR ANOTHER
TIME, SCHEDULE FOR A WORKSHOP?
>>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
SO WE SHOULD ALL THINK ABOUT IT BETWEEN NOW AND NEW BUSINESS
AND FIGURE OUT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT IN NEW BUSINESS.
I THINK WE CAN THROW OUT SOME IDEAS DURING NEW BUSINESS AND
SET IT MAYBE FOR NEXT AGENDA FOR OLD BUSINESS JUST TO GET IT
DONE.
>>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE TO RESULT IN A
RESOLUTION BECAUSE YOU MADE AS A POLICY DECISION WHEN YOU
CHOSE THIS ORDINANCE TO PUT THE PROCESS IN PLACE BY
RESOLUTION.
SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE HIRING OF A FACILITATOR, THE
HIRING OF LEGAL AND SUPPORT STAFF AND THEN PROCESS TO --
>>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, CAN WE DEFER THIS CONVERSATION
TO NEW BUSINESS?
>>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
>>ALAN CLENDENIN: SUGGEST CHAIR PRO TEM CONSULT WITH
MR. SHELBY.
>>LYNN HURTAK: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>>THE CLERK: YOU DO HAVE TWO ITEMS SET FOR OCTOBER 9.
-- [INAUDIBLE]

>>LYNN HURTAK: OH, OKAY.
THAT'S WHEN WE WERE GOING TO TALK.
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
SO WE DID SET SOMETHING.
OKAY.
WELL, THEN, YEAH.
THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
10:13:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
10:13:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO ITEM 48?
MOTION TO CLOSE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:13:44AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:13:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 49.
10:13:53AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION --
10:13:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ASK IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO
SPEAK TO IT.

BUT YOU DIDN'T READ IT.
10:14:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE E2025-8, CHAPTER 1, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE 2025 CITY OF
TAMPA CHARTER REVIEW HAVE THEIR COMMISSION IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA HOME RULE CHARTER OF 1975 AS AMENDED,
SECTION 10.10, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:14:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE THE MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
LOOKS LIKE RECORDED.
WE'RE GOOD.
10:14:36AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
ITEM 49.
NOW WE'RE READY FOR YOU.
10:14:42AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
VAC-24-13 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:14:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 49.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:15:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ITEM 49, VAC-24-13, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-95, PASSED AND
ORDAINED ON SEPTEMBER 19, 2024, WHICH VACATED, CLOSED,
DISCONTINUED AND ABANDONED THAT PORTION OF 4th AVENUE
RIGHT-OF-WAY AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED BELOW TO EXTEND ONE
YEAR REQUIREMENT TO SATISFY THE WATER SERVICE SPECIAL
CONDITIONS BY 18 MONTHS, REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:15:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:15:45AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:15:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY.
WE ARE AT 50.
10:15:56AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
PRESENTING FILE VAC-25-16 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:16:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
ITEM NUMBER 50?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:16:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 50, FILE VAC-25-16, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING,
DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF ALCOLU AVENUE
THAT IS LOCATED NORTH OF WHITEWAY DRIVE, SOUTH OF LIBERTY
STREET, EAST OF 48th STREET AND WEST OF 50th STREET
WITHIN THE REVISED PLAT OF TERRACE PARK UNIT 5 SUBDIVISION
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO
CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE
PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND
PENALTIES, FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,
INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:17:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:17:19AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:17:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE'RE MOVING TO THE 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS, SECOND READING ON
PROPOSED ORDINANCES.
ITEM 51 THROUGH 61.
THEY ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS, PLEASE STAND, RAISE
YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
ITEM NUMBER 51.
10:17:51AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 51 IS REZ-25-40, THIS ITEM IS REZONING REQUEST FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2907 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD, 2910
WEST BARCELONA STREET, UNITS 401 THROUGH 2303 AND FOLIO
NUMBER 127264-8338.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR OFFICE, BUSINESS, AND PROFESSIONAL
RETAIL RESTAURANT BAR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY HIGH-RISE AND
SCHOOL USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

10:18:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
10:18:34AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS.
10:18:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 51?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:18:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
I'VE BEEN READY FOR A WHILE.
JOKING.
10:18:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONLY REASON YOU CAME IN TODAY IS ITEM 51.
10:19:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS WHY I RAN FOR OFFICE.
NO.
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2907 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD AND 2910 WEST BARCELONA
STREET, UNITS 401 THROUGH 2303 AND FOLIO NUMBER 127264-8338
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION

1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONAL, RETAIL, RESTAURANT/BAR, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY, HIGH-RISE AND SCHOOL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
10:19:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:19:52AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:19:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 52.
10:19:59AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 52 IS REZ-25-42.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
2420 AND 2422 WEST STROUD AVENUE AND 1401 SOUTH LORENZO
AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM 24, RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:20:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT.

10:20:33AM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:20:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 52.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:20:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ-25-42 -- REALLY WANT TO MOVE IT.
ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2420 AND 2422 WEST STROUD AVENUE AND 1401 SOUTH LORENZO
AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RM-24, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
10:21:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:21:34AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO

BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:21:39AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:21:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 53.
10:21:45AM >> SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 53 IS REZ-25-49.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
2425, 2525 AND 2601 NORTH ROCKY POINT DRIVE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24 AND
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR STOREFRONT
RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL/OFFICE AND ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL
USES AND RESTAURANT.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
CATE WELLS WITH LEGAL IS AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY
QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BONUS AGREEMENT.
I'M ALSO AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE GENERAL QUESTIONS.
10:22:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
APPLICANT?
10:22:24AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE ON BEHALF OF THE
DEVELOPER AND APPLICANT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE
BONUS AGREEMENT.
I KNOW THERE WAS A DIRECTIVE THERE.
WE WORKED WITH LEGAL.
WE THINK THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE WAY THE BONUS

AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN, IT'S BROAD ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO
POTENTIALLY INCLUDE THAT SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT.
WE HAVE ALSO REACHED OUT TO BRANDON CAMPBELL AND LINING UP A
TIME TO MEET WITH HIM.
THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'D LIKE TO GO AND APPRECIATE
YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
10:22:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:22:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
I KNOW IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED FOR AND REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT.
10:22:59AM >> THANK YOU.
10:22:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
ITEM 53?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:23:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 53, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2425, 2525 AND 2601 NORTH ROCKY POINT DRIVE IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1

FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-24, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY AND PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, STOREFRONT, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL/OFFICE ALL
CG USES AND RESTAURANT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:23:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:23:54AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:23:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 54.
10:24:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 54 IS REZ-25-53.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
4307 WEST FIG STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM 18, RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OR RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN

SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:24:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
10:24:40AM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE.
10:24:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO
ITEM 54.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:24:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MOVE 54, FILE NUMBER REZ-25-53, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4307 WEST
FIGURE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RM 18 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD,
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:25:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:25:28AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:25:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 55, STAFF.
10:25:37AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 55 IS REZ 25-63.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
3804 WEST SAN PEDRO STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RO-1, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, TO
PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS, AND PROFESSIONAL.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:26:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 55?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 55?
10:26:17AM >> COUNCIL, I HAVE THAT ON MY LIST, BUT I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:26:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
HEARING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:26:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
3804 WEST SAN PEDRO STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RO-1, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS, AND PROFESSIONAL,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:27:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:27:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WERE YOU TRYING TO EMULATE A CERTAIN ACTOR?
THAT WAS A DEEP, DARK --
10:27:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY SULTRY.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:27:21AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:27:29AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:27:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE ON ITEM 56.
10:27:38AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

ITEM NUMBER 56 IS REZ-25-66.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
101, 105, 109, AND 111 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE, 1105 EAST
WASHINGTON STREET AND 102 AND 106 NORTH 12th STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM CD 2 CHANNEL DISTRICT TO CD 2
CHANNEL DISTRICT FOR RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS,
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND HOTEL.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:28:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
10:28:17AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
10:28:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
TO ITEM 56?
MR. SCAGLIONE?
NO.
YOU'RE LEAVING.
OKAY.
10:28:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:28:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ 25-66, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 101, 105, 109, AND 111 NORTH
MERIDIAN AVENUE, 1105 EAST WASHINGTON STREET AND 102 AND 106
NORTH 12th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION CD-2, CHANNEL DISTRICT, TO CD-2, CHANNEL
DISTRICT, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY, AND HOTEL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:29:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:29:24AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:29:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ALSO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:29:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM 57, STAFF.
10:29:40AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

ITEM NUMBER 57 IS REZ 25-67.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
7402 NORTH HUTTON PLACE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 60 RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:30:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
SEEING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THIS ITEM?
NONE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
57, FILE REZ 25-67, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
7402 NORTH HUTTON PLACE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
TO RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.

10:30:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:30:56AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:30:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ITEM 57.
SORRY.
58.
YOU GUYS ARE CONFUSING ME.
58.
10:31:17AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 58 IS REZ 25-68.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
1320 WEST ARCH STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:31:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
10:31:47AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS GISELLE MODA. I AM THE AUTHORIZED AGENT
REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:31:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STEPHANIE, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND
TO BE SWORN IN BY THE CLERK.
10:32:05AM >> GISELLE MODA.
I WAS SWORN IN.
10:32:16AM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:32:20AM >> YES.
10:32:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN, PLEASE.
10:32:24AM >> GISELLE MODA.
10:32:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, IS THAT
WHAT I HEARD?
10:32:32AM >> CORRECT.
10:32:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:32:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MOVE 58, FILE REZ-25-68, ORDINANCE BEING

PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1320 WEST ARCH
STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:33:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WERE ABSENT AT THE FIRST VOTE.
MAKE SURE YOU REVIEWED THE RECORD AND READY TO VOTE.
10:33:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY.
10:33:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:33:25AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:33:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU.
ITEM 59.
10:33:38AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

ITEM NUMBER 59 IS REZ-25-69.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
5408 NORTH HABANA AVENUE AND 5411 NORTH PADDOCK AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, AND CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, TO RM 18
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:34:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
10:34:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
AILEEN ROSARIO.
I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
10:34:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO
SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
SEEING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS?
10:34:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
--
10:34:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
10:34:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 5408 NORTH HABANA AVENUE AND 5411 NORTH
PADDOCK AVENUE, CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY

DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, AND CG, COMMERCIAL
GENERAL TO RM 18, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:34:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:35:07AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:35:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 60.
10:35:14AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 60 IS REZ-25-79.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
4823 AND 4825 WEST FLAMINGO ROAD.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 60, RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RM 18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:35:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, IS THERE AN APPLICANT.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER
60?
10:35:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I JUST BRIEFLY LOOKED AT THIS.
ONE REASON WHY I'M NOT MAKING A STINK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR

PROJECT IS BECAUSE THIS AREA TOOK ON A LOT OF WATER DURING
HELENE, AND THEY ARE TAKING OUT OLDER HOMES AND REPLACING
THEM WITH HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT TO THE BFE.
THIS IS JUST PART OF LIFE.
THANK YOU.
10:36:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY ELSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:36:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ 25-79, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4823 AND 4825 WEST
FLAMINGO ROAD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS 60 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RM 18,
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:36:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:37:02AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

10:37:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 61.
10:37:09AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 61 IS REZ-24-68.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
307 SOUTH MELVILLE AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:37:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
10:37:37AM >> STEPH MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:37:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 61?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 61?

10:37:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 61, FILE REZ-24-68, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 307 SOUTH
MELVILLE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:38:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:38:33AM >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO ABSENT AT
VOTE.
10:38:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN 10:30, HURTAK,
MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
GOOD MORNING.
10:38:59AM >> ROSS SAMONS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING VAC-25-18
FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION.
THE APPLICANT IS CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEY
LYING NORTH OF TWIGGS STREET, SOUTH OF ZACK STREET, EAST OF
JEFFERSON STREET AND WEST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.

THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED AUGUST 4, 2025.
RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED AND IMPROVED.
IT'S HALF AND HALF SITUATION THERE.
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY --
10:39:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
CTTV, COULD YOU DISPLAY THE WOLF ON THE COUNCIL MEMBERS'
SCREENS, PLEASE?
10:39:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE MONITORS.
IF THEY COULD PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL MONITORS, PLEASE.
10:40:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOMETHING IS HAPPENING.
THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, BECAUSE THE SCREEN IS
BLINKING.
STILL WAITING FOR THE DISPLAY ON THE COUNCIL MONITORS AT THE
DAIS.
ANYBODY WANT TO SING?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:40:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.
COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY, PLEASE.
I CAN KIND OF READ WHAT YOU HAVE UP THERE.
10:41:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE WE GO.
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS TOUCH THAT DOOR.
10:41:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CTTV.
10:41:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO ON THIS BACKGROUND, IT TALKS ABOUT THE
AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS WITH THE ACCARDIS.
CAN YOU JUST CLEARLY STATE, THOUGH, AND WE COULD ASK LEGAL

INSTEAD IF YOU WANT, BUT THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT
AUTOMATICALLY GIVE THIS.
IT ONLY IS CONTINGENT ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS A
QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:41:39AM >> CORRECT.
THE AGREEMENT IS CONTINGENT --
10:41:41AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THERE WAS MISINFORMATION THAT THIS IS --
THAT THIS DECISION TODAY IS IN EXCHANGE FOR SOMETHING.
IT IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING BY ITSELF AND THE DECISION
HAS TO BE MADE SEPARATE FROM ANY AGREEMENT, CORRECT?
10:41:58AM >> CORRECT.
10:41:59AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S CORRECT.
THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT YOU APPROVE THE
VACATION.
THE VACATION IS NOT APPROVED, THEN THE AGREEMENT TERMINATES.
10:42:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
THERE WAS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION AND THIS IS A SEPARATE
DECISION THAT HAS TO BE DONE ON ITS OWN MERIT.
10:42:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION?
10:42:21AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION
PLAT AND BY ACQUISITION.
AGAIN, PER AGREEMENT WITH ACCARDI PROPERTIES LLC THEY OWN
ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AROUND THE JACKSON HOUSE.
THEY HAVE AGREED TO CONVEY TWO 10-FOOT STRIPS OF PROPERTY ON

EACH SIDE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
AND THIS IS TO UTILIZE FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.
AGAIN, IT'S SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THIS VACATING.
THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 9,478 SQUARE
FEET.
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE ALLEY REQUESTED TO BE VACATED
IN YELLOW FROM NEBRASKA HERE, THIS NORTH-SOUTH SECTION HERE.
ATLAS SHEET SHOWING THE REQUESTED VACATING HERE IN RED.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BLOCK, THE PREVIOUS VACATING IS HERE.
THE SUBJECT ALLEY IN RED HERE AND THE ORIGINAL PLAT.
I'VE INCLUDED AN EXHIBIT FROM THE AGREEMENT SHOWING THE
10-FOOT STRIPS ON EACH SIDE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE PROPERTY.
HERE IS AN IMAGE LOOKING SOUTH FROM EAST ZACK STREET.
IMAGE LOOKING EAST FROM THE ALLEY.
IMAGE LOOKING WEST FROM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
HERE IS ANOTHER IMAGE LOOKING NORTHWEST IN THE BLOCK,
JACKSON HOUSE HERE.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS VACATING REQUEST, EASEMENT
RESERVATION IS REQUIRED BY FRONTIER.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES, COMPLY WITH CHAPTER
27 REGARD TO TREE PRESERVATION, SITE DESIGN FOR ANY
IMPROVEMENTS PLACED TO ADJACENT TREES IN VACATED AREA.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:44:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU PUT UP ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT SHOWS

WHAT THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION IS, PLEASE?
10:44:49AM >> THIS ONE?
10:44:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH.
ALTHOUGH IN THEORY SOMEONE COULD DRIVE THROUGH HERE, AS YOU
SHOWED IN THE PICTURES, THE WHOLE THING LOOKS LIKE A PARKING
LOT ALREADY.
THE PREVIOUS PART, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAT TO THE WEST
HAS ALREADY BEEN VACATED.
10:45:04AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
CORRECT.
10:45:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY SURROUNDED BY --
DO THE ACCARDIS OWN ALL THE PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR THE JACKSON
HOUSE?
10:45:16AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
THEY DO.
THAT IS THE REASON I POINTED.
UNIMPROVED AND IMPROVED.
SOME OF IT IS PARKING AND SOME OF IT IS GRASS IN BETWEEN THE
PARKING AREAS.
IT IS A MIXTURE.
10:45:30AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SOMEHOW COME IN ON ZACK AND THEN 120-DEGREE
TURN.
IT'S NOT REALLY NAVIGABLE AT THIS POINT.
TYPICALLY IN A VACATION, HALF OF THE PROPERTY GOES TO EACH
SIDE.
HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL PROPERTY WILL THE JACKSON HOUSE GET AS A
RESULT OF THIS?

IS IT'S NOT JUST THE ACCARDIS THAT WILL GET EXTRA LAND.
IT IS THE JACKSON HOUSE AS WELL.
10:45:56AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
APPROXIMATELY 7 FEET IF IT DOES REVERT.
THE CITY REALLY DOESN'T GET INTO HOW PROPERTY REVERTS.
MOST CASES IT DOES FROM THE CENTER LINE IN THIS CASE.
IT IS FROM ONE PLAT.
SO IT MORE THAN LIKELY WILL --
10:46:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU GUYS ARE NODDING OVER THERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT?
I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS IS A BENEFIT TO THE JACKSON
HOUSE ALSO.
10:46:22AM >> RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
YES, AS LONG AS THEY ARE ABUTTING THE ALLEYWAY AND
CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CONTAINED
WITHIN ONE PLAT, THEY WOULD GET THEIR SECTION BETWEEN THEIR
SIDELINES GOING TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ALLEYWAY.
10:46:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
EXTRA TEN FEET ON EACH SIDE, WOULD THE CITY
CONTROL THE EXTRA SEVEN FEET BEHIND THOSE TO WHERE
ADDITIONAL RIGHTS-OF-WAY OR JACKSON HOUSE CONTROL IT?
10:46:45AM >> JACKSON HOUSE.
CITY DOESN'T OWN, OTHER THAN A PARCEL OVER TO THE LEFT,
NORTH AND SOUTH ALLEYWAY THAT THE CITY MAY OWN IN FEE, BUT,
NO, SIR.
FOR THIS PARTICULAR SECTION IT WOULD BE THE JACKSON HOUSE
FOUNDATION THAT WOULD HAVE THAT.

10:46:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT GIVES THE JACKSON HOUSE ROOM, EVEN THOUGH
IN THEORY SOMEBODY MIGHT BE SAYING THEY LOSE THE ALLEY.
THE ALLEY IS NOT REALLY NAVIGABLE RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE BONUS IS THEY GET AN EXTRA SEVEN FEET.
NOW THEY CAN GET BEHIND THE BUILDING AND HAVE ACCESS TO IT
IN ADDITION TO THE LAND THAT THE CITY NEGOTIATED.
10:47:15AM >> THAT IS THE BENEFIT FOR THAT.
HOWEVER THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION DOES NEED TO TAKE THE
NECESSARY STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THEIR
PARCEL.
10:47:24AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THEY DO THAT?
10:47:26AM >>RON WIGGINTON:
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM LEGAL ADVICE ON
HOW TO DO THAT.
ONE OF THE GOOD FIRST PLACES TO START WOULD BE THE
HILLSBOROUGH PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND WORK WITH THEM
TO DETERMINE HOW THEY CAN GET THAT ON THEIR PARCEL AND START
PAYING PROPERTY TAXES ON IT AS WELL.
10:47:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MS. FEELEY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
10:47:45AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT.
WE WILL WORK WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:47:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THEY ARE A NONPROFIT, A VOLUNTEER.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE.
10:47:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES THAT COMPLETE THE PRESENTATION?
10:48:02AM >> YES, THANK YOU.

10:48:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC --
10:48:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ACCARDIS.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
THIS CRITICAL VACATING OF THE ALLEY, WHERE THE ACCARDIS OWN
ALL OF THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING THIS, EXCEPT FOR THAT SMALL
SECTION BEHIND THE JACKSON HOUSE.
WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM.
AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED REAL LAND WITH
REAL VALUE AND REAL PROPERTY THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE ACCARDIS
TO THE JACKSON HOUSE FOR ACCESS ON BOTH THE EAST AND THE
WEST SIDES OF THAT STRUCTURE.
WHEN THE COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT GIVING THEM ACCESS AND GIVING
THEM A BUFFER, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WAS PROVIDED.
THE ALLEY AS IT IS NOW BISECTS THEIR PROPERTY AND PREVENTS
REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS.
SO WE APPRECIATE SUPPORT FOR THIS VACATING.
AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:49:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE APPLICATION IS FROM THE CITY, CORRECT?
THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY.
SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS FIRST
READING?
10:49:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SURE.
MOVE ITEM NUMBER 62, FILE VAC-25-18, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING
AND ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF TWIGGS STREET,
SOUTH OF ZACK STREET, EAST OF JEFFERSON STREET AND WEST OF
NEBRASKA AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF BINKLEY'S ADDITION TO
FORT BROOKE, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND
REPEALING CONFLICTS.
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:50:17AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 9, 2025,
AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
10:50:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
COULD I ASK, IF APPROPRIATE, WHEN THIS COMES
FOR SECOND READING, IN YOUR PRESENTATIONS, COULD YOU JUST
MAKE THAT LEGAL PART CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT -- THAT THIS IS
NOT A GIVEAWAY, EXCHANGE.
TALKS ABOUT THE CONTRACT BUT DOESN'T CLARIFY THAT.
HAD ONE MORE SENTENCE IT WOULD HELP.
10:51:05AM >> WE'LL CLARIFY THAT.
10:51:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:51:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE AN ITEM 64, BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S ITEM.
I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MOVE THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THAT AND WAIT FOR HIS RETURN TO COUNCIL
CHAMBERS BECAUSE HE IS HERE.
HOW ABOUT WE GO PAST THAT AND GO TO -- SEE IF WE CAN KNOCK
OFF SOME OF THE STAFF REPORTS IF THE PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE.
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
I KNOW THERE WERE PEOPLE PREPARED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.

ARE THEY ONLINE?
WHO WANTS TO START?
THERE WE GO.
10:52:03AM >> ERIC HAYDEN WITH T AND I.
MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE UP.
ALLOW ME TO SCREEN SHARE, I'LL SHARE A PRESENTATION.
10:52:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
10:52:30AM >> ERIC HAYDEN WITH T AND I.
GOOD MORNING.
WE GOT EARLY.
GOOD SEEING YOU GUYS AGAIN.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC.
ERIC HAYDEN WITH T AND I.
WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS GIVE YOU AN UPDATE --
10:52:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
WE RESOLVED THE TECHNICAL ISSUE.
GO AHEAD.
10:52:50AM >> OKAY.
I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON OUR
OnBase PROJECT AND CURRENT ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON.
AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, THIS WILL ONLY TAKE A FEW MINUTES, WE
ACTUALLY WENT AND ENGAGED IN A CONTRACT WITH OnBase BACK
IN FEBRUARY OF 2022.
IT'S TO REPLACE OUR SIRE LEGACY SYSTEM.

THE SIRE SYSTEM IS OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR ABOUT NEARLY 20 YEARS.
IT'S QUITE OLD.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS BETWEEN CLERK'S
OFFICE, COUNCIL, LEGISLATIVE AIDES AND OUR RECORDS AND
ARCHIVE TEAMS, THESE ARE UNSUNG HEROES BEHIND THE SCENES
THAT ARE WORKING AND MANAGING JUST MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF
RECORDS THAT CONDUCT CITY BUSINESS.
IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PROVIDE THEM A VERY
ROCK SOLID PLATFORM THAT THEY CAN KEEP THESE RECORDS.
RECORDS OF ALL TYPES, EVERYTHING FROM PHOTOGRAPHS TO
MICROFILM TO PAPER DOCUMENTS, YOU NAME IT.
IT ALL HAS TO BE DIGITIZED.
IT IS A HUGE, HUGE PROJECT.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE FOUR SOLUTIONS WITHIN OnBase THAT
WE FOCUS ON.
AGENDA MANAGEMENT IS ONE.
THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2023.
AND WHAT'S COMING NEW THERE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN OCTOBER IS
BOARDS AND COMMISSION VACANCIES WILL NOW START BEING
REPORTED ON AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING
FORWARD TO.
THAT WILL START AROUND OCTOBER.
AS WE MOVE TO DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS IN PROCESS, WE
HAVE A TARGET OF FINISHING ALL OF THOSE 4 MILLION DOCUMENTS

BY SPRING OF 2026, BUT WE WANT TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING
EARLIER.
WE WANT TO ACTUALLY INDEX RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES, CRA
RESOLUTIONS, EXECUTIVE ORDERS, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO GET ACCESS TO REALLY QUICKLY.
WE WANT TO DO THAT UP FRONT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE WHILE STILL
INDEXING THE REST OF IT.
WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS, I'LL DO A QUICK DEMO.
BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WILL GO UP.
NEXT ARE ALL THE ORDINANCES AND EVERYTHING.
THEN OPEN UP PUBLIC ACCESS WHERE WE CALL IT THE PAV, BUT
THAT WILL BE COMING UP HOPEFULLY BEFORE CHRISTMAS OF THIS
YEAR.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN, THE PAV, YOU'LL SEE IT IS A PRODUCT THAT
WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO SEARCHES FOR LOTS OF CONTENT,
MEETING DATES, YOU NAME IT, TO HELP BRING BACK A LOT OF
PRODUCTS THAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY ENDORSE AND EXECUTE.
ANOTHER THING WE'LL BE WORKING WITH IS ADOBE SIGN
INTEGRATION.
DOCUMENTS AND THE WORK FLOWS BETWEEN EVERYBODY, BETWEEN THE
CLERK'S OFFICE, COUNCIL, DEPARTMENTS, PURCHASING AND SO
FORTH WILL HAVE A BETTER FLOW AND BE ABLE TO DO ONLINE
SIGNATURES.
LASTLY, THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING ONLINE FORMS.
THAT'S COMING UP SPRING OF 2026.

WHAT THAT WILL DO IS ALLOW FOR RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ALL SORTS
OF INPUT, FOR WHEN PARTIES ARE ACTUALLY ENGAGED IN
QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
YOU HAVE MATERIALS, VOICE MAILS, MAIL, HARD MAIL, ELECTRONIC
MAIL.
YOU HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRODUCTS THAT COME IN AND A LOT
OF MANUAL EFFORT MOVING THESE PRODUCTS AROUND SO THAT YOU
GUYS ON COUNCIL CAN SEE THEM, APPROVE THEM AND MOVE THEM
FORWARD.
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MANUAL WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.
WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HELP MODERNIZE THAT AND HELP
STREAMLINE A LOT OF THAT.
IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR ALL STAFF INVOLVED.
WITH THAT, LET ME CHANGE MY VIEW FOR A SECOND.
10:56:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ERIC, WHILE ON THE PAGE, ADOBE SIGN
INTEGRATION, DOES THAT MEAN THE CHAIR'S SIGNATURE FOR
ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, I CAN DO IT ON ADOBE?
10:56:22AM >> YES.
10:56:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT HAD THE
PRIVILEGE OF SIGNING THOSE DOCUMENTS, CHARLIE KNOWS WHAT
IT'S LIKE.
10:56:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
[ LAUGHTER ]
10:56:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WALK IN THERE.
THERE'S CONFERENCE TABLES FILLED, STACKED WITH DOCUMENTS.

CRAZY.
10:56:36AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
YOU GUYS ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HYBRID MANUAL WHERE WE
HAVE THINGS ONLINE.
WE HAVE THINGS PRINTED.
THEN WE HAVE TO SIGN THEM AND PUT THEM BACK ONLINE AND INDEX
AND KEEP THEM FOR POSTERITY.
THAT IS A LOT OF MANUAL WORK.
ALL OF THIS STUFF IS TO HELP EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IN OUR RECORDS AND ARCHIVE MAINTAIN
THESE FOR YEARS TO COME.
I'LL SHOW YOU QUICKLY A LITTLE BIT OF THE VIEWER.
I'M CHANGING MY VIEW.
CAN YOU SEE A BROWSER NOW?
10:57:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN, YES.
10:57:10AM >> THIS IS A SAMPLE.
WE'RE STILL DOING INDEXING.
AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER AND HEARD CHIEF OF STAFF MENTION,
THERE ARE OVER 4 MILLION ITEMS THAT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
AND RECORDS AND ARCHIVE ARE ACTUALLY MAINTAINING FOR CITY
BUSINESS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE CAN'T KEEP THEM IN ONE STYLE, ONE
VERSION, ONE SET OF STORAGE.
AS TECHNOLOGY EVOLVES, YOU HAVE TO MOVE ALL OF THIS PRODUCT
FORWARD AND FORWARD AND FORWARD SO YOU'RE MAINTAINING IT IN

SEARCHABLE FORMS, RETRIEVABLE FORMS, ANYTHING THAT CAN BRING
YOU PRODUCT.
IF YOU DON'T, YOU LOSE THE ACCESS.
YOU LOSE THE VIEWER, YOU LOSE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY SEE
THE PRODUCT.
CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE RECORDS AND ARCHIVES GUYS HAVE IT IN
PHYSICAL FORM, BUT THAT IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT WAY TO
BRING PRODUCTS TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST
OR COUNCIL REQUEST.
SO THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE CAN ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND
WE'RE STILL DOING INDEXING AND SO FORTH.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL DOCUMENT TYPES THAT ARE CRA
RESOLUTIONS, CITY EXECUTIVE ORDERS, CITY ORDINANCES AND CITY
RESOLUTIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY INDEX THOSE FIRST SO
WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT IN THE NOVEMBER
CHRISTMAS TIME FRAME.
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE PREVIEW.
CHIEF OF STAFF ENDORSED THIS.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO ACTUALLY DO THIS.
BUT, FOR INSTANCE, YOU MAY NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE
ORDINANCE NUMBER, BUT IF YOU WENT IN AND ACTUALLY PUT IN A
PARTICULAR TITLE SUCH AS VERIZON AND SO FORTH, WHAT YOU'LL
GET IS A SCORING SEARCH.
LIKE 98%, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS YOU WANT TO
SEE.

YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE ALL RECORDED.
MUCH MORE FRIENDLY USER INTERFACE.
YOU CLICK ON IT, YOU'LL DOWNLOAD THE PDF AND HAVE THE WHOLE
PDF.
PRINT IT AND SO FORTH.
IF YOU WANT TO REFINE YOUR SEARCH AND NOT DO EVERY DOCUMENT
THAT HAD THE WORD VERIZON IN IT OR SO FORTH, YOU CAN DO
DIFFERENT TYPES OF WILD CARDS.
YOU CAN DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF SEARCHES, SUCH AS I WANT TO
SEE VERIZON AND TRILIFE.
TWO COMPANIES WORKING TOGETHER.
INSTANTLY I GET RESO 2025 THROUGH 318.
A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.
A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS MAY ASK FOR THIS TYPE OF CAPABILITY
AND THE SPEED IN WHICH TO DO THE SEARCHES.
BECAUSE IT IS REALLY AGGRAVATING THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE IF
THEY ARE HAVING TO WAIT MINUTES AND MINUTES AND THEY GET ALL
SORTS OF INCORRECT SEARCH RETURNS AND EVERYTHING.
SO AS YOU'LL SEE, YOU CAN EVEN BOIL DOWN TO THAT'S ANY
DOCUMENT, BUT BOIL DOWN TO CRA RESOLUTIONS, EXECUTIVE
ORDERS.
ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL MAKE IT SO MUCH EASIER FOR PEOPLE
TO GET ACCESS TO THE RECORDS THAT THE LEGISLATIVE GROUP IS
PROCESSING THROUGH.
WITH THAT, I WANTED TO KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT BRIEF, BECAUSE

WE ARE STILL INDEXING, FINALIZING THE DATA BEHIND THE SCENES
WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
IF WE FINISH ALL OF THOSE SEARCHES, WE CAN OPEN UP THE PAV
MUCH SOONER FOR EVERYONE.
WANTED YOU TO TAKE A PEEK AT THAT.
LET ME GO BACK TO THE SLIDE FOR A SECOND.
ONGOING, OF COURSE, WE'RE DOING CONTINUAL UPDATES WITH
HIGHLAND SOFTWARE.
CONTINUE TO DO ADA ENHANCEMENTS, A.I. IMPROVEMENT.
THERE'S NEW A.I. TYPES OF THINGS, NOTHING LIKE FULL A.I.,
BUT A.I. ASSISTED OR A.I. ENHANCED SERVICES WHERE IT WILL
HELP WITH CONTENT INSIGHTS INSTEAD OF JUST FILLING IN FIELDS
AND SO FORTH, SOMETIMES YOU CAN TYPE IN PLAINTEXT.
HEY, I WANT A RESOLUTION FROM THIS DATE TO THIS DATE AND SO
FORTH.
WITH LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS AND CHAT BOTS AND SO FORTH, THESE
TYPES OF THINGS ARE MUCH EASIER TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
OTHER SECURITY AND MISCELLANEOUS UPDATES.
WITH THAT, I WANTED TO KEEP THIS BRIEF FOR YOU AND JUST GIVE
YOU A TASTE OF WHAT'S COMING.
WITH THAT, I WANT TO CLOSE AND OPEN THE DOOR FOR ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:01:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:01:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT I WANTED TO

SAY THANK YOU.
THIS IS A GIANT LIFT.
I KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S TAKING YOUR DEPARTMENT.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR IT.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC WHO WILL
REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO FIND THIS INFORMATION.
THANK YOU.
11:01:39AM >> YOU ARE VERY WELCOME.
11:01:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:01:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SAME THING.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING IT EASIER FOR US TO FIND THINGS.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE THIS ACCESSIBLE TO GOOGLE SO THAT
PEOPLE CAN SEARCH FROM THE OUTSIDE AND GET ACCESS TO THE
SAME DOCUMENTS?
11:01:57AM >> THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE OUTSIDE.
LET ME CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SOMETIMES GOOGLE ALREADY HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF CONNECTIONS
WITH US.
GOOGLE IS A MARKETING PLATFORM, AS YOU'RE AWARE.
WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR IS WHO WANTS TO ENHANCE THEIR
SEARCHABILITY BY RAISING THEMSELVES UP TO THE TOP OF LIST
AND THINGS.
WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT INTERFACES ARE AVAILABLE FOR US.
IT IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY PUBLIC ONCE WE TURN IT ON.
11:02:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY IF YOU MENTIONED THIS ALREADY.

TRANSCRIPTS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THERE TOO?
11:02:31AM >> NO, JUST RIGHT NOW, THE FOUR DOCUMENTS THAT ARE
SEARCHABLE OR CRA RESOLUTIONS, REGULAR CITY RESOLUTIONS,
ORDINANCES, AND EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
NOW, IF YOU GO -- IF YOU'RE TALKING TRANSCRIPTS FROM THE
MEETINGS, THAT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE FROM OUR YouTube
INDEXING.
DEPENDS ON THE TRANSCRIPTS YOU'RE SPEAKING TO SPECIFICALLY.
11:02:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU SAID AGENDAS ARE SEARCHABLE, TOO, RIGHT?
11:02:59AM >> YES.
11:02:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ARE THE BACKUPS TO AGENDAS SEARCHABLE AS
WELL?
11:03:06AM >> I DON'T KNOW THAT QUESTION.
11:03:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOST OF THE TIME WHEN I'M TRYING TO FIND
SOMETHING AND WHEN CONSTITUENTS CALL, THEY WANT TO FIND
SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, BACKUPS TO THE AGENDA OR THE
TRANSCRIPT.
ALL THE REST OF IT IS IMPORTANT, TOO.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS SOMEHOW INTEGRATED SO ALL THAT
WOULD POP UP AT THE SAME TIME FOR A PARTICULAR ITEM.
11:03:27AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
GOOD IDEAS.
I'LL HAVE THAT TEAM ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO THE OFFICE SO THEY
CAN GET A LOT OF THESE REQUESTS.
IF THERE'S ANY DIFFICULTY YOUR TEAMS ARE HAVING, HELPING

PROVIDE SERVICE IN THE REFERENCE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
STREAMLINE THAT.
VERY FRUITFUL.
11:03:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I KNOW YOU ARE ARCHIVING THE YouTube
VIDEOS, BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO INCLUDE THE LINKS IN THAT
SEARCH ALSO, THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR EVERYONE SO THEY
CAN FIND THE TRANSCRIPT, DOCUMENTS, AGENDA, AND THE
YouTube LINK.
11:04:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ERIC.
GOOD PRESENTATION.
THE TASK SEEMS OVERWHELMING IN MY MIND BEING ABLE TO
ACCOMPLISH THIS.
GREAT JOB WITH YOUR TEAM.
11:04:12AM >> THANK YOU.
I BELIEVE JC IS COMING UP.
IS THAT TRUE?
11:04:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
11:04:22AM >> I'LL GO AHEAD AND BACK OUT.
IF YOU NEED ME, I'M STILL STANDING BY.
11:04:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ERIC.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:04:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
JC HUDGISON, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, CONSTRUCTION SERVICE
CENTER MANAGER.
I CAN GET SCREEN ACCESS.

11:04:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LOOKS GOOD ON OUR SIDE.
11:04:55AM >> GREAT.
SO THIS IS -- THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN
TRYING TO DO AND INTEGRATE WITH ANOTHER GROUP.
I DEFINITELY HAVE TO GIVE A LOT OF -- ALL THE WORK TO THE
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER.
OVER THE YEARS, OUR ACCELA SYSTEM, OUR PERMITTING SYSTEM, WE
SEND INFORMATION.
WE SEND A DIGEST TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SITE.
SO WHEN WE MET WITH, WE WERE LOOKING INTO ENFORCEMENT AND
PROPERTY CONCERNS WE WERE HAVING FOR ILLEGAL CONSTRUCTION,
WE KNEW THIS WAS KIND OF COMING DOWN THE PIPE.
WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE WHEN, BUT NOW AS OF APRIL OF THIS
YEAR, IF YOU GO TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY
APPRAISER SITE, YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL UP THE PERMIT
INFORMATION.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW TO COME TO ACCELA.
THEY DON'T KNOW TO COME AND FIND OUR ACTIVE PERMIT MAP.
WE WANTED TO INCREASE THE TRANSPARENCY AND BE ABLE TO SHOW
IT ON MULTIPLE WEBSITES.
SO JUST REAL QUICK, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF
DEMO BECAUSE I KNOW HOW THAT CAN GET TRICKY BUT I WANTED TO
STEAL A FEW SCREEN SHOTS.
JUST TAKE WHERE YOU ALL ARE DOWNTOWN, 315 EAST KENNEDY.
ONCE YOU CLICK ON THE PARCEL, YOU CAN CLICK ON THE PARCEL

LINK THERE.
YOU SCROLL DOWN AFTER IT GIVES YOU THE PROPERTY APPRAISER
INFORMATION, SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ALL THAT, THERE IS AN ACTUAL
TAB THAT SAYS PERMIT.
ONCE YOU HAVE THE PERMIT TAB, LISTS ALL THE PERMITS.
WE HAVE LOTS OF MORE PERMITS OBVIOUSLY ON THAT PROPERTY DOWN
THERE WITH CITY HALL.
YOU CLICK ON ANY OF THOSE AND THEN IT TAKES YOU STRAIGHT TO
OUR ACCELA PAGE TO SHOW THE STATUS OF THE PERMIT, WHETHER
COMPLETE, EXPIRED, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IDEALLY FROM THE REALTOR POINT OF VIEW, THEY COME IN, SELL A
PROPERTY, SAYS NEWLY RENOVATED.
THEY CAN DO A QUICK SEARCH USING THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SITE
TO USE THE PERMIT HISTORY THAT WAS LISTED THERE.
OUR INTENT IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY.
LIKE I SAID, JUST ANOTHER TIP OF THE HAT TO HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER BECAUSE THEY DID ALL THE HEAVY
LIFTING.
I GET TO DO ALL THE SHARING.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:07:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THE INTEGRATION, IS THIS HANDS-FREE SO THE SOFTWARE
APPLICATIONS TALK TO EACH OTHER?
11:07:12AM >> THAT IS CORRECT.
IT IS DIRECTLY -- YOU LOG IN.

YOU CLICK THE LINK.
I DON'T LIKE DOING LIVE DEMOS.
HEY.
YOU CLICK ON IT, CLICK RIGHT THERE, TAKES YOU TO THE PERMIT
SCREEN.
YOU SEE ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION.
SCROLL RIGHT DOWN, YOU CAN CLICK ANY RECORD IN HERE.
CLICK THAT PERMIT AND IT TAKES YOU RIGHT TO THE -- NO
LOGGING IN.
NO HAVING TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
IT WILL TELL YOU ALL THE INFORMATION THAT ANYBODY SEES.
PERMITS ISSUED.
SHOW WHEN IT WAS ISSUED.
YOU CAN SEE THE STATUS, WHO PULLED IT, ALL OF THAT
INFORMATION.
LIKE I SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO ANOTHER SITE.
EVERYTHING IS INTEGRATED.
ONCE YOU GO TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, CLICK ON THE SITE,
CLICK ON THE PARCEL AND TAKES YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU NEED TO
GO.
11:07:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CRAZY HOW THE APPLICATIONS WORK TOGETHER.
VERY COOL.
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?

GREAT WORK.
I'M SURE IT WILL BE WELL RECEIVED BY EVERYBODY.
OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE ON.
ITEM NUMBER 66.
11:08:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE DOWN TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE ALL OF US BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE
TWO NO VOTES.
HOW ABOUT 70?
IT LOOKS LIKE MR. CAMPBELL IS HERE.
11:08:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
70 SHOULD BE NONCONTROVERSIAL.
11:08:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SURE THEY WOULD WANT TO BE HERE FOR THAT.
11:08:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL DO 70.
11:08:53AM >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COUNCIL.
BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM
NUMBER 70, WHICH IS OUR MONTHLY STORMWATER MAINTENANCE
REPORT TO PROVIDE SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE REPORT THAT WE
HAVE PUBLISHED ON TAMPA.GOV/MOBILITY.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT -- I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A
FEW OF THE STATS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH PARTICULARLY THROUGH
THE MONTH OF AUGUST.
ESPECIALLY HOW THEY DIFFER FROM LAST YEAR.
AS YOU'LL REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE HAD TROPICAL IMPACTS
STARTING IN AUGUST WITH TROPICAL STORM DEBBY AND THEN
SEPTEMBER WITH HURRICANE HELENE AND THEN OCTOBER WITH

HURRICANE MILTON.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT IMPACTS THE LEVEL OF CALL VOLUME THAT
WE GET FOR SERVICE AND HOW THAT THEN CONSEQUENTLY REDIRECTS
OUR ATTENTION TO MORE ACUTE ISSUES AS OPPOSED TO THE ROUTINE
MAINTENANCE THAT WE ARE THANKFULLY ABLE TO WORK ON WITH A
LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUS RIGHT NOW.
IT IS A GOOD SURROGATE MEASURE JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF
CALLS TO SORT OF TRACK HOW THE TROPICAL IMPACTS OR
NONTROPICAL, BUT HIGH RAIN EVENT IMPACTS HAVE AFFECTED US AS
A CITY OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO YEARS.
FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST, WE HAD 311 CALLS FOR SERVICE AS
COMPARED TO LAST YEAR WITH 665.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS LESS THAN HALF.
WE'RE HOPING FOR A SIMILAR TRAJECTORY THROUGH THE REMAINDER
OF THE YEAR, BUT WE ARE PREPARED FOR THAT TO BE EITHER THE
CASE OR NOT THE CASE.
AS ALWAYS, IN OUR REPORT, WE DO LIST THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITHIN.
STILL FAIRLY NEW IS OUR WORK ORDER MAP THAT IS PUBLISHED
ALSO ON THE WEBSITE.
SO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD CORRESPOND FAIRLY CLOSELY WITH
WHAT YOU SEE AS EXECUTED WORK ORDERS ON THE ONE MAP AND THEN
ON A SUBSEQUENT PAGE, THERE SHOULD BE MAYBE A LITTLE LESS
OVERLAP BUT SOME OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE THAT WE PLAN TO AND
OPEN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

OVER THE MONTH OF AUGUST, WE DUG OUT ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF
OF DITCHES, REMOVING 562 TONS OF DEBRIS IN THAT OPERATION.
WE ALSO MOWED 127 PONDS AND SPRAYED 116 PONDS.
I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS IN CHAMBERS
ABOUT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO MAINTAIN PONDS VERSUS WHAT IS A
MORE EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT.
WHEN WE SAY WE ARE MAINTAINING PONDS, THESE ARE THE THINGS
WE ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON.
IF THERE ARE MORE EXTRAORDINARY NEEDS, THOSE COME AS WE
WOULD WITH OTHER SORT OF WORK ITEMS AS A DISTINCT AND
SEPARATE EFFORT.
CAVE-INS, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT
OCCASIONS.
I DO HAVE A GOOD PICTURE FROM THE REPORT OF ONE OF THE
CAVE-INS THAT THE TEAM HAD WORKED ON IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST,
AMONG THE 12 THAT THEY COMPLETED.
LAST, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OUR HEAD WALLS.
I KNOW THERE'S ALSO BEEN QUESTIONS ASKED OF ME, WHAT EXACTLY
IS A HEAD WALL AS OPPOSED TO OTHER STRUCTURES.
I HAVE MORE PICTURES, AGAIN, FROM LATER IN THE REPORT, OF
GOOD EXAMPLES OF HEAD WALLS.
HEAD WALLS BASICALLY ARE THE INTERFACE BETWEEN A PIPE AND
THE DITCH WHERE WE HAVE A CONCRETE STRUCTURE THAT HELPS TO
REDUCE THE EROSION AT THAT INTERFACE, WHEREAS A BOX WOULD BE
THE INTERFACE BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT PIPES AND SORT OF A

JUNCTION OF SEPARATE PIPELINES.
STREET SWEEPING, WE DID HAVE 340 TONS OF DEBRIS REMOVED FROM
THE STREETS.
AGAIN, THAT IS DEBRIS THAT MAY OTHERWISE END UP IN THE
REMAINDER OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM DITCHES, PONDS, PIPES,
THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET WITH THE STREET SWEEPER EFFICIENT WAY
AND AS REQUIRED BY OUR PERMIT.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, BEFORE I LEAVE THIS PAGE, I WANTED TO
HIGHLIGHT IF YOU HAVE A NEED FOR SERVICE, YOU ARE WELCOME TO
CALL OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE LINE AT 813-274-3101.
ANSWERED 24 HOURS A DAY BY STAFF DURING BUSINESS HOURS AND
BY AN ANSWERING SERVICE AFTER HOURS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PICTURES IN THE REPORT ITSELF.
I SHOULD NOT WANT TO BELABOR THAT BUT I HAVE A COUPLE I
WANTED TO SHOW BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY WERE RELEVANT TO OTHER
ITEMS OF DISCUSSION.
THIS IS A CAVE-IN REPAIR THAT OUR IN-HOUSE CREWS PERFORMED
THIS MONTH.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM JUST A
POTHOLE REPAIR THAT WOULD BE DONE BY OTHER CREWS.
IT REQUIRED A BACKHOE AND SIGNIFICANT DIGGING.
THERE WERE INTERIM STEPS HERE THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY
CAPTURED BY THE PICTURES, BUT THIS DOES GIVE AN IDEA OF THE
FACT THAT THIS IS A MORE SIGNIFICANT EFFORT THAN JUST SIMPLY
FILLING IN A POTHOLE.

LAST, LATER IN THE SERIES OF PICTURES ON THAT REPORT, THIS
WAS REALLY MEANT TO HIGHLIGHT DITCH DIGGING, BUT I BROUGHT
IT BECAUSE THOSE QUESTIONS HAD COME UP ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IS
A HEAD WALL.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE GENTLEMAN IS STANDING IN THE MIDDLE
PICTURE.
HE'S ACTUALLY STANDING ON TOP OF THAT HEAD WALL TO ACCESS
THE AREA THAT HE'S DIGGING OUT IN FRONT OF THE PIPE.
BUT THAT IS WHAT THAT HEAD CALL IS.
IT KEEPS THAT SOIL BEHIND IT FROM WASHING INTO THE SYSTEM.
SO THAT SAID, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:15:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:15:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT DEBRIS.
ALL THAT DEBRIS, DOES THAT GO TO THE WASTE TO ENERGY
FACILITY?
11:15:15AM >> NO, IT'S GENERALLY A SOIL-BASED DEBRIS, SO IT TYPICALLY
GOES TO THE LAND FILL.
11:15:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, WOW.
OKAY.
SO SOME INCREASED COSTS THERE.
11:15:26AM >> YES.
11:15:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD TO KNOW.
JUST TO SAY I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BRANDON ON CHANGING AND
IMPROVING THE REPORT AND WE'LL BE SEEING THOSE AS WE GO
FORWARD NOW THAT I AM CHAIR OF MOBILITY, I AM KIND OF DIVING

RIGHT IN TO LEARN MORE ABOUT MOBILITY AND STORMWATER.
BUT IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR THINGS THAT YOU ALL ARE
INTERESTED IN, AS WE KIND OF WORK ON THIS, WE CAN SHARE SOME
OF THOSE DEMOS WITH YOU ALL JUST TO GET SOME FEEDBACK AS WE
CONTINUALLY IMPROVE THE REPORT, AND I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU
AGAIN FOR COMING IN PERSON.
RIGHT NOW, WHILE PEOPLE ARE STILL RECOVERING, THIS IS SO
IMPORTANT, AND IT REALLY HELPS PEOPLE.
THE REPORT AGAIN IS AVAILABLE RIGHT ON THE MOBILITY WEBSITE,
IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM.
IT'S NOT ONLY THE STORMWATER, ALSO A SIDEWALK AND ROAD
REPAIR REPORT.
11:16:19AM >> IT'S SIDE BY SIDE, YES.
11:16:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SIDE BY SIDE, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND PEOPLE TAKE
A LOOK AT THEM.
THANK YOU.
11:16:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THIS MORNING, THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT CAME IN AND MADE
SOME STATEMENTS REGARDING THAT SOME OF THESE HAD NEVER BEEN
CLEANED, GOING TO SUFFER IF A HURRICANE COMES, ESPECIALLY IN
THE INDUSTRIAL AREA WITH THE BIG PUMPS AND SO FORTH.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU VERIFY THEY ARE DONE.
BECAUSE WE HAD AN ALLEGATION.
I DON'T WANT TO LET IT GO BY.
11:16:50AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU OFF-LINE AS WELL.

11:16:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SWANN AVENUE, HOSPITAL THERE.
ONE TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY THEY DON'T KNOW IF THE PUMP IS
READY TO WORK.
JUST SAYING WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
I WANT TO BE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE CHECKED OUT BEFORE THE
WEATHER GETS ANY WORSE.
11:17:06AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
THANK YOU.
11:17:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:17:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'VE SEEN THE STREET SWEEPER MACHINES ALL
OVER THE PLACE.
MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE HAD PEOPLE COMMENT THAT THEY ARE HAPPY TO SEE THOSE.
THANK YOU TO THAT.
PLUS THEY ARE ALWAYS HAPPY TO SEE THE CREWS THAT ARE OUT
CLEANING FACILITIES OR REPAIRING FACILITIES.
TO COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK'S REQUEST OR QUESTION ABOUT
SIMPLIFYING AND PROVIDING INFORMATION, WHAT WOULD BE REALLY
COOL IS TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A WHEEL OR DIAGRAM THAT
SHOWED THE SEVEN YEAR CYCLE AND HOW FAR WE ARE ON THAT.
BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO SPEED SOME THINGS UP.
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE, BUT ALSO TO SET
EXPECTATIONS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE TO EVERY PART OF
THE CITY.
BASED ON WHAT YOU TOLD US, NOT GOING TO GET TO EVERY PART OF

THE CITY OVER A 12 MONTH OR 24 MONTH PERIOD.
FULL CYCLE IS SEVEN YEARS.
THESE ARE MY WORDS FROM LOOKING AT DOCUMENTS I'VE SEEN.
OBVIOUS THAT MANY AREAS WERE NOT MAINTAINED IN THE LAST TEN
YEARS.
SO WE SET THAT ASIDE AND ONLY LOOK AT THE FUTURE, YOU ALL
ARE WORKING FORWARD.
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHERE WE ARE
ON THAT CYCLE.
IF YOU ARE AHEAD OF IT, THEN WE OUGHT TO MAKE SURE WE
CELEBRATE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CYCLE BY DISTRICT OR BY
NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT INTERESTING FOR
PEOPLE TO SEE HOW THAT'S GOING ALONG, JUST IN A SIMPLE
GRAPHIC DEPICTION.
THANK YOU.
11:18:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, BRANDON.
APPRECIATE IT.
WE'RE WAITING FOR MICHELLE TO COME BACK AND THEN TAKE UP
ITEM 64.
WHEN MICHELLE GETS BACK, WE CAN KNOCK OUT 68.
11:19:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
68 IS DONE.
11:19:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEVER MIND.
11:19:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND 72.
11:19:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
72.

LET'S GO.
11:19:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
VIERA IS NOT HERE, BUT HOPEFULLY HE WILL COME
BACK.
OH, MS. VAN LOAN IS HERE.
11:19:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COME ON, WE'LL START WITH YOU.
ITEM 64.
11:19:31AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN:
HE'S A ON-SITE.
GOOD MORNING.
11:19:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'RE RIGHT.
RIGHT HERE.
ON-SITE.
PUT VELCRO ON THAT SEAT.
11:19:44AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN:
MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE.
THIS MORNING IS THE FIRST READING FOR AN HONORARY NAMING IN
HONOR OF J. LEONARD LEVY AND GEORGE LEVY.
IT IS FOR THE PLACEMENT OF AN HONORARY STREET NAME SIGN AT
THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH HIMES AND WEST OHIO STREET.
OUR STAFF MADE THE PRESENTATION ON AUGUST 7, 2025.
WE THEN POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AUGUST 8 THROUGH AUGUST 25 PER
THE ORDINANCE.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:20:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

11:20:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THESE TWO GENTLEMEN, I DIDN'T MEET GEORGE LEVY BUT I MET
LEONARD LEVY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE STANDING.
THEY WERE SO -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT.
GROWING UP AS A KID, YOU WOULD ALWAYS HEAR THESE NAMES.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN MAYOR GRECO WAS MAYOR BACK IN THE DAY, HE
HAD A GROUP CALLED THE MAGNIFICENT 7.
I DON'T KNOW IF BOTH OF THEM OR ONE OF THEM, HE HAD THIS
INNER CIRCLE.
ANYWAYS, THEIR IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY IS HUGE WITH SPORTS
AND BEYOND AND GIVING BACK AND HELPING AND WITH NONPROFITS.
I COULD GO ON AND ON.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
I KNOW THE FAMILY IS VERY EXCITED.
THEY MIGHT BE HERE ON SECOND READING TO SPEAK.
11:21:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:21:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IN FACT, THIS WAS REALLY BROUGHT ON BY GOUTOUFAS.
WE RAN IT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THIS IS THE FINAL END.
THANK EVERYBODY.
CREDIT TO MR. DC GOUTOUFAS.
11:21:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:21:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO ADD TO THAT, THEY WERE DEEPLY
INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY IN MANY, MANY WAYS BACK IN THE
TIME BEFORE SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO NOT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE SEEN ALL THE THINGS THEY WERE
DOING.
BUT THEY WERE INVOLVED IN JUST ABOUT EVERY IMPORTANT THING
THAT HAPPENED IN TAMPA DURING THAT TIME, INCLUDING BRINGING
FOOTBALL HERE.
THANK YOU TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION.
11:21:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:21:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT TRYING IN ANY WAY DISRUPT WHAT
YOU SAID, BUT THEY WERE THEMSELVES SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEY WERE EVERYWHERE.
11:22:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO ITEM 64?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 64.
11:22:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, APPROVING THE PLACEMENT OF AN HONORARY STREET
NAMING SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH HIMES AVENUE AND
WEST OHIO AVENUE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO HONOR J. LEONARD LEVY
AND GEORGE LEVY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:22:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
11:22:30AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA AND
HURTAK BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 9, 2025,
AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:22:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
I SEE ABBYE FEELEY IS HERE, READY FOR 72.
LET'S GO TO ITEM 66.
66 AND 67 WILL BE NEXT.
ITEM 66, IS THERE STAFF TO PRESENT FOR ITEM 66?
11:23:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL WE'RE DOING IS PASSING A RESOLUTION FOR
FUNDING.
11:23:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DON'T NEED STAFF.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:23:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:23:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:23:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 66.
11:23:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:23:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM TO MOVE 66 AND 67?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO MOVE ITEMS 66 AND 67.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
11:23:41AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY SOMETHING?
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK SAID SOMETHING EARLIER, I'M NOT
AGAINST ACCEPTING THE MONEY, BUT I'M AGAINST THE PROJECT IN
GENERAL.
I DON'T BELIEVE IN SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPERS, SO I'M VOTING NO.
11:23:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY ELSE?
ROLL CALL.
11:23:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL STATE IT AGAIN, I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR
THIS BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS WAY OVEREXTENDED IN MONEY AND,
QUITE FRANKLY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MULTIMODAL NETWORK
SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
ROME IS NOT GOING TO BE FIXED.
IT'S SO BAD THAT I CAN'T EVEN BRING MY EASY SUNDAY MORNING
BIKE GROUP TO SEE WHAT IT IS NOW BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY NOT
GOING TO BE FIXED.
THE INTERSECTION OF ROME AND KENNEDY WILL HAVE NO BIKE
PROTECTION EVEN AFTER THIS.
IT'S NOT EVEN DOING -- THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS
INTERSECTIONS FOR CYCLISTS.
IT WILL NOT BE USED AND IT WILL BE DANGEROUS.
I TRIED TO FIX IT, BUT THEY ALREADY SENT THESE PLANS TO THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SO IT'S NOT FIXABLE.
I'M JUST VERY DISAPPOINTED, EVEN AFTER WE ALL AGREED ON IT.
I DECIDED TO DIVE IN AND LEARN ABOUT IT, IT'S JUST NOT GOING

TO BE SAFE FOR CYCLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR FAMILIES.
NOT TO MENTION JUST YOUR AVERAGE CYCLIST.
I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO FIX THE
PROBLEM.
11:25:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:25:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
11:25:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:25:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:25:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
11:25:16AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:25:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:25:18AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND HURTAK
VOTING NO.
11:25:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 72.
ABBYE.
11:25:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I THINK THIS PowerPoint SHOULD BE AVAILABLE ON THE SCREEN.
IF IT'S NOT, I HAVE COPIES IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.
GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:26:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:26:17AM >> EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
SO THE FIRST THING I'M GOING TO DO IS REVIEW THE ORDINANCE
AND EXACTLY WHAT IT REQUIRES.
SO SECTION 22-103A SETS OUT THAT WHEN, FOR RESIDENTIAL
STRUCTURES, THERE IS A NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OR ANY MAJOR

RENOVATION, A SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED FOR COMMERCIAL,
INDUSTRIAL, OFFICE AND MIXED USE, KIND OF IN THE SAME VEIN.
WHEN THERE IS A NEW STRUCTURE AND -- AN EXPANSION OF AN
EXISTING STRUCTURE WHICH RESULTS IN A 25% INCREASE IN THE
EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE, A SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED.
AND FOR ALL OTHER USES, A SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED WHEN THERE IS
A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED ZONING APPROVAL, S-2 SPECIAL USE
APPROVAL, OR ANY CHANGE IN AN EXISTING USE REQUIRING 25%
ADDITIONAL PARKING.
SO THAT IS WHEN THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENT KICKS IN.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BASE LINE FOR OUR CODE.
THEN IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A MAJOR RENOVATION UNDER CHAPTER
27.
FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, AS I SAID, THE SIDEWALK
REQUIREMENT KICKS IN FOR NEW SINGLE-FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY
RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE OR USE OR WHEN THERE IS A MAJOR
RENOVATION, WHICH IS ANY CONSTRUCTION, RECONSTRUCTION,
STRUCTURAL ALTERATION, EXPANSION, ENLARGEMENT OR REMODELING,
WHICH THE TOTAL COST OF WHICH EXCEEDS 51% OF THE ASSESSED
VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY.
SO THEN IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE --
11:28:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:28:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION WHAT 51%
MEANS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF HOLES AS I SEE IT AND NOT IN YOUR WORK OR
ANYBODY ELSE'S WORK.
WHAT IS 51% OF SOMETHING?
IS IT A VALUE OR SIZE OF A LOT OR SIZE OF A HOUSE?
I JUST WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL THE OTHER
DAY AND I CHECKED MY OWN RECORD.
I NEVER SAID I HATED SIDEWALKS.
I SAID WHY I VOTED HOW I HAD TO VOTE IN MY KNOWLEDGE.
I NEVER HATED ANYTHING.
BUT GO ON.
11:28:53AM >> YES, THE DEFINITION SAYS THAT IT'S 51% OF THE ASSESSED
VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
11:28:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
OF THE PROPERTY OR OF THE RECONSTRUCTION
OF THE PROPERTY?
11:29:02AM >> OF THE PROPERTY.
11:29:08AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ABBYE FEELEY.
TYPICALLY, THE ASSESSED VALUE INCLUDES BOTH, THE LAND AND
THE STRUCTURE.
11:29:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT EXAMPLES SO PEOPLE DON'T CALL
ME.
THEY CAN CALL EVERYBODY THEN.
GIVE ME A HOUSE THAT YOU WANT TO REMODEL.
IT'S GOT THREE BEDROOMS, ONE BATH, WHATEVER.
IT'S A VALUE OF THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AFTER
IT'S COMPLETED?

11:29:31AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
NO.
IT'S 51% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE WHEN YOU COME IN TO MAKE THE
IMPROVEMENTS.
SAME THING THAT WE'RE DOING WITH STORM DAMAGE.
I THINK THIS MOTION CAME BECAUSE OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT
WERE BEING REQUIRED TO PAY, OR BEING REQUIRED TO INSTALL
SIDEWALKS DUE TO STORM DAMAGE PERMITS BEING PULLED.
I THINK THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE MOTION AND THE DISCUSSION
TODAY WAS TO LOOK AT FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN
MAKING REPAIRS DUE TO STORM DAMAGE, HOW ARE THEY BEING
CHARGED, WHAT IS BEING CHARGED AND WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:30:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU CLEARED IT UP WHEN YOU SAID THE WORD
STORM DAMAGE.
11:30:08AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES.
THAT'S WHAT THIS MOTION WAS TODAY.
11:30:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE IT.
11:30:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:30:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I FORGOT TO SET THIS UP IN THE BEGINNING.
BUT THE SITUATION IS, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REBUILDING THEIR
HOMES.
I'VE HAD TWO OR THREE CASES OF CONSTITUENTS WHO BECAUSE OF
THE TIMELINE OF GETTING MONEY THERE INSURANCE AND
EVERYTHING, THEY PUT IN THE PERMITS LATER, THERE WAS THAT --
I THINK SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT THE SIX MONTH GRACE PERIOD,
BUT PUT IN THE PERMIT LATER AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED, SUDDENLY

THIS NEW FEE CAME INTO PLACE, AND THE STAFF WORKED WITH THEM
ON IT.
BUT THE PURPOSE OF MY MOTION HERE IS TO PROVIDE A CLEAR
GUIDELINE SO THAT STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON
IT, THAT WE CAN JUST CREATE A LINE ON WHETHER IT IS ALLOWED
OR NOT.
THE PURPOSE HERE IS ONLY FOR LIKE WHAT CARROLL ANN SAID.
MY PURPOSE WAS TO ONLY LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO HAD HOMES, LIVING
IN THE HOME, FLOODED, AND THEN FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY
MIFFED THE SIX-MONTH GUIDELINE -- MISSED THE SIX-MONTH
GUIDELINE.
THE EXCUSES FOR THE ONES I LOOKED AT FOR NOT HAVING A
SIDEWALK WERE CONFIRMED BY THE CITY.
I THINK THAT THEY HAD A TREE OR SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T
ALLOW IT TO GO THERE.
THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO PAY THE IN LIEU OF FEE.
THE IDEA HERE IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO MEET THAT NARROW
DEFINITION, THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE EXTRA FEE.
BUT ANYBODY GOING FORWARD, EVERYBODY ELSE GOING FORWARD
WOULD.
11:31:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE IN THE SETUP MODE.
COUNCIL MADE A DECISION, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
I'M STILL QUESTION WHETHER I LIKE IT COMPLETELY ABOUT THESE
FEES.
THE CITY WAS VERY GENEROUS WITH THE WAIVING FEES AFTER THE

HURRICANES FOR A LOT LONGER THAN I THINK ANY MUNICIPALITY
THAT I'M AWARE OF.
HOW LONG WERE WE WAIVING FEES AFTER THE HURRICANES?
11:32:08AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WE WAIVED FEES UNTIL MARCH 1st, I BELIEVE.
AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WITH SOME OF THIS IS THAT IN THE
INTERIM, YOU ALL CHANGED THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE FROM THE
$29 A LINEAR FOOT.
AND THAT HAPPENED IN APRIL.
SO ANYONE WHO HAD FILED THEIR PERMITS PRIOR TO THAT AND
TRIGGERED THE INSTALLATION OF A SIDEWALK, EITHER IT WAS A
FULLY NEW CONSTRUCTED HOME THAT HAD NO SIDEWALKS AND NOW WAS
THE TIME FOR THEM TO PUT THEM IN, OR IT WAS 51% OF THE MAJOR
RENOVATION AND THE SIDEWALK WAS NOW REQUIRED, THEY WERE
CHARGED THE 29.
WE DID NOT CHANGE THE FEE ON THEM.
ANYONE WHO FILED AFTER THAT HAS BEEN PAYING THE NEW FEE.
WHEN YOU ALL CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE IN 22-103 SEVERAL YEARS AGO,
THERE IS NOW NOT A NO-PAY OPTION.
AND THAT'S WHERE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, IF I AM RECALLING
CORRECTLY, CAME UP, WELL, CAN'T WE JUST WAIVE THE FEE FOR
THEM FOR THE SIDEWALK?
THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN IN '22, THERE IS NO FEE.
YOU EITHER PUT IN THE SIDEWALK OR PAY THE FEE.
I THINK THE MOTION WAS, CAN WE LOOK AT SOME SORT OF
EMERGENCY APPROACH THAT THERE WOULD BE NO PAYMENT OF THE

FEE?
THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US BACK TO YOU TODAY TO HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION.
SO WE'RE HERE.
I HAVE SOME NUMBERS ON THE STORM PERMITS, HOW MANY WE HAD.
I HAVE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.
I HAVE SOME NUMBERS ON WHAT'S IN REVIEW RIGHT NOW.
BUT I THINK WE WERE TAKING DIRECTION FROM YOU AS TO HAVING
THIS DISCUSSION, PROVIDING YOU WITH THE INFORMATION WE COULD
AND THEN HEARING FROM YOU ALL ON WHAT THE STEPS FORWARD
WOULD BE.
11:33:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:33:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO CLARIFY, MY INTENTION WAS TO LOOK
AT WHETHER THEY SHOULD PAY THE OLD FEE OR NEW FEE.
MY INTENTION WAS NOT TO HAVE THEM PAY NO FEE.
THE ONLY QUESTION IS BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THEIR
APPLICATION, I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE OLD
FEE.
IT'S JUST THAT SOME OF THEM WERE IN PROCESS.
WE MAY BE TALKING ONLY ABOUT A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.
SOME OF THEM WERE IN PROCESS BUT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE THE
DEADLINE.
INSTEAD OF -- HAD THEY APPLIED A YEAR AGO WHEN THE HOUSES
WERE WIPED OUT, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO PAY THE NEW FEE.
IT'S LOOKING AT THAT NARROW SUBSET.

IF YOU THINK IT'S OKAY FOR STAFF TO HANDLE IT, THAT'S FINE.
I WAS TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO CREATE A CLEAR GOAL SO THAT
STAFF WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT.
THEY COULD SAY YES OR NO.
11:34:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY, RIGHT?
WE'VE TIED YOUR HANDS, CORRECT?
11:34:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS WHETHER TO PAY THE OLD FEE OR THE
NEW FEE, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME GRAY AREA BECAUSE WHEN
THEY MAY HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY VERSUS WHEN THEY
APPLIED.
11:35:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE AGAIN, I TRY TO THINK OUTSIDE THE
BOX.
I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID.
IT COVERS EVERYBODY.
SO THEN IT COVERS THE ONE THAT JUST MOVED IN.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE 80% OR 60%, 40%, OR
100% OF THE MONEY MADE THAT WE JUST DID A CONTRACT FOR A
HOUSE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE HOUSE, EITHER A CAR HITS IT,
CATCHES FIRE, HURRICANE, WHATEVER, THEY FALL INTO THE SAME
UMBRELLA, CORRECT?
11:35:37AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ANYONE PUTTING IN A PERMIT FOR NEW
CONSTRUCTION AFTER APRIL 1st WILL BE PAYING THE NEW
SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE.
THE WAY THAT THE CODE AND THE WAY THAT THE PERMITS ARE

CURRENTLY BEING HANDLED.
WHAT I'M HEARING ON THE OTHER SIDE FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
RIGHT NOW IS THAT IS THERE A WAY TO BE ABLE TO SAY I'M
COMING IN APRIL 1st, BUT I'M A STORM DAMAGE
RECONSTRUCTION, WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THEM
TO POTENTIALLY PAY THE OLD FEE OF THE 29 IF THEY ARE ASKING
TO PAY THE FEE.
IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
11:36:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENCE.
I JUST BROUGHT THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION SO WE CAN DISCUSS AND
DEBATE IT.
BUT IT'S NOT WHETHER THEY ASK OR NOT.
IT'S THAT IF SOMEONE IS -- WAS IN THE HOUSE WHEN IT WAS
DESTROYED AND THEY APPLIED TO REBUILD THEIR OWN HOMES
BECAUSE OF INSURANCE AND FEMA AND EVERYTHING, TAKING LONGER
THAN PEOPLE EXPECTED, AND IF THERE ARE STILL A FEW PEOPLE
THAT PUT THEIR PERMITS AFTER APRIL 1st, THEN THERE WOULD
BE SOME SET, NARROW GUIDELINES TO ALLOW THE FOLKS, BECAUSE
THEY OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT
BEFORE APRIL 1st, THAT THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED INTO
THE OLD FEE.
BUT ANYTHING NEW WOULD CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE NEW RULES.
THAT'S ALL.
11:37:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:37:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF THERE IS

A WAY WE CAN FOCUS SOLELY ON THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND THE
PEOPLE WHO WERE REBUILDING.
BUT I SEE, LIKE, WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS AND CONCERNS FOR
HURRICANE VICTIMS IN THIS?
11:37:23AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I'LL SHARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS
WITH YOU.
I THINK THERE MAY BE A WAY.
I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT AS TO
HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE REBUILDING ON THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.
I'LL TELL YOU, THE SECOND SCENARIO I'M THINKING OF, I KNOW
OF A HOME BUILDER THAT ACQUIRED 48 DIFFERENT LOTS IN SOUTH
TAMPA DUE TO THE HURRICANES.
THEY WILL COME IN AND BUILD 48 NEW HOMES.
I WOULD ASSUME OUR INTENT IS TO GET SIDEWALKS ON THE 48 NEW
HOMES.
NOW, A HOMEOWNER MIGHT LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THEM THAT THEY ARE
REBUILDING ON THEIR OWN HOME, AND WE WOULD HAVE A HOUSE WITH
A NEW SIDEWALK AND A HOUSE THAT PAID THE FEE.
THIS IS WHERE I THINK I WOULD PROPOSE BACK TO YOU, WHAT IS
THE INTENT?
I KNOW THE INTENT IS FOR US TO GET AS MANY SIDEWALKS AS WE
CAN AND TO FINISH OUT OUR SYSTEM.
SO TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT CRITERIA WOULD VEST THEM TO THE
PRIOR $29 A LINEAR FOOT I THINK IS PART OF THE QUESTION.
IF I RIP DOWN MY HOME TODAY AND I WANT TO REBUILD AND I HAD

NOTHING TO DEAL WITH STORM DAMAGE, MY OBLIGATION, IF I DON'T
ALREADY HAVE A SIDEWALK, THAT'S THE OTHER SCENARIO, RIGHT?
SO WE HAVE SOME HOMES THAT HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT THEY GOT
DEMOED FROM THE STORM AND THEY ARE GOING TO PUT BACK AND THE
SIDEWALK IS ALREADY THERE.
THAT'S KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IN TERMS
OF THE STORM PERMITS THAT WE HAVE FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL WAS
JUST OVER ABOUT 600.
I'M WORKING THROUGH THE QUERY BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THEM SAID
STORM DAMAGE.
SO SOME OF THAT TAKES SOME UNPACKING OF THE ACTUAL PERMIT
RECORDS TO UNDERSTAND THIS WAS THE SCENARIO OR THAT WAS THE
SCENARIO.
I THINK IF THE DIRECTIVE IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY
TO ENSURE THAT IF YOU SUFFERED OVER 51%, YOU WERE CONSIDERED
SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ELEVATE AND
REBUILD YOUR HOME.
AND THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, DID YOU HAVE AN EXISTING
SIDEWALK.
IF YOU DID, LEAVE IT.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND ARE YOU
GOING TO PUT ONE IN?
OR YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND YOU'RE SEEKING THE IN LIEU.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THAT IN LIEU, WHAT I'M HEARING WOULD
BE PREFERRED TO BE THE 29 FEET.

11:40:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
MS. SCHARF HAS AN EXAMPLE THAT SOMEONE SENT US THAT SHE'S
GOING TO PUT ON THE WOLF, IF WE COULD HAVE THE WOLF.
SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, THE HOUSING QUESTION HAS THE RED DOT.
THE NUMBERS, THE DATES ARE WHEN ALL THOSE OTHER HOUSES WERE
REBUILT.
2019, 2022, 2019, 2022, 2023, NONE OF THOSE HAVE SIDEWALKS.
SO THE PROBLEM HERE IS WHAT CARROLL ANN BROUGHT UP EARLIER
OF PEOPLE USING THE EXCUSE, WELL, THERE AREN'T CONNECTING
SIDEWALKS.
SO WE HAVE TO FIND THAT BALANCE.
SO WHATEVER THAT LOOPHOLE IS, THERE ARE NO CONNECTING
SIDEWALKS.
WE NEED TO TAKE THAT LOOPHOLE OUT.
THAT LOOPHOLE CANNOT EXIST ANYMORE.
I THINK THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE AS SHE BROUGHT UP, THE
PERCENTAGES OF PEOPLE NOW USING THAT AS THEIR EXCUSE, WE
HAVE TO STOP THAT.
IN THIS CASE, THOUGH, ALL THOSE HOUSES ARE NEW, SO THERE'S
GOING TO BE NOTHING TO CONNECT.
11:41:20AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ALL OF THOSE HOUSES ARE NEW, BUT SEVERAL ARE
BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE AND SEVERAL ARE AFTER.
AFTER YOU CLOSE IT, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
AFTER YOU CLOSED IT, WE EMPLOYED THE FORM AND HOW IT'S BEING
REVIEWED AND WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION IS.

WE TRACK.
I HAVE A MONTHLY REPORT THAT COMES TO ME BEGINNING OF EVERY
MONTH.
TELLS ME HOW MANY WERE WAIVED, WHERE THEY WERE, WHAT THE
LINEAR FOOTAGE WAS, HOW MUCH WAS PAID, WHAT THE ADDRESS IS
AND ALL OF THAT.
I'M IN THE PROCESS OF MAPPING THAT FOR YOU SO YOU CAN
ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THIS HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE.
PRIOR TO THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT, RIGHT, BECAUSE
THERE WAS THE LOOPHOLE.
THERE WAS THE NO PAY.
THERE WAS THE OTHER CRITERIA.
MOVING FORWARD FROM WHERE WE ARE, I CAN LOOK BUT I'M GOING
TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT HAPPENED AFTER
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NOW, GIVEN THAT CHANGE IN '22,
THEN WE STARTED TRACKING ALL OF THAT.
11:42:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I THINK THAT'S FABULOUS.
THRILLED TO HEAR YOU ARE DOING THAT BECAUSE I DO THINK THE
PUBLIC WILL BE INTERESTED.
JUST AT ONE POINT, WE JUST HAVE TO SAY BUILD THE SIDEWALK
UNLESS THERE IS AN ACTUAL TREE OR A DITCH OR WHATEVER THE
RATIONALE IS.
11:42:43AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I THINK ONE OF YOUR OTHER PRIOR
CONSIDERATIONS, IF I'M RECALLING CORRECTLY, IS THERE A FULL

SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET?
THAT, TOO, PLAYED A ROLE IN WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE THE
CONNECTIVITY BUT JUST ON THE NORTH SIDE VERSUS THE SOUTH
SIDE AND STILL HAVE A CONNECTED SYSTEM, THAT TOO IS
VALUABLE, NOT ALWAYS THE IDEAL SITUATION, BUT WOULD WE
RATHER TAKE THE IN LIEU AND COMPLETE WHAT'S ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE STREET?
I SPEAK TO THIS AND I KNOW BRANDON IS STILL HERE.
CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, WE DEAL WITH IT AT THE TIME OF THE
PERMIT.
WE COLLECT THE FUNDS.
THE FUNDS THEN GOES TO MOBILITY.
WHILE WE ARE REVIEWING AGAINST WHAT IS IN MOBILITY'S
ORDINANCE, WE ARE MINDFUL OF HOW THIS PLAYS INTO THE WHOLE
SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
11:43:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, I KNOW BECAUSE
COUNCIL WENT KIND OF LIKE HARD ON THIS.
HAVE YOU OBSERVED THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR MAYBE A STAFF
REVIEW?
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MISSING?
IF YOU WERE GOING TO CREATE A MORE PERFECT ORDINANCE, WOULD
YOU HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR CREATE AN APPEAL PROCESS OR
A WAIVER PROCESS?
IS THERE SOMETHING YOU HAVE OBSERVED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SEE CHANGED?

11:44:05AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
AS FAR AS THE FEE?
11:44:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, THE FEE AND ISSUES BRINGING UP TODAY
ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMONSENSE APPLICATIONS.
LIKE ONE PARTICULAR HOUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT OR HURRICANE
DAMAGE, 50% PLUS.
11:44:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAS A HURRICANE DAMAGED HOUSE.
11:44:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU SEE THIS AS A REAL PROBLEM OR JUST
LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST?
11:44:32AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK COLLECTIVELY AND
LOOK AT WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS PROVISION OF THE CODE IS.
AND IT DOES LIVE IN MOBILITY.
SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR BRANDON.
WE'VE HAD OTHER DISCUSSIONS AS THIS HAS CONTINUED TO BE AT
THE FOREFRONT OF OUR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY
DISCUSSIONS OVER THE YEARS.
THAT IS THAT WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OR HALF A MILE OF A
SCHOOL, NO EXEMPTION.
WE HAVE TO GET THE SIDEWALKS IN.
THAT'S OUR PRIORITY.
I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW HOW THESE WORK TOGETHER WITH WHAT'S
IN THE PLAN AND THE PRIORITY SYSTEM IN ORDER TO KNOW HOW TO
BEST SUPPORT BOTH THE CITY'S EFFORTS IN MAKING THESE
CONNECTIONS AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER'S
OBLIGATIONS IN MAKING THE CONNECTIONS AND HOW WE MOVE THOSE
THINGS FORWARD TOGETHER.

11:45:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PERHAPS IN ANOTHER MONTH OR SO, WE'LL BE
SIX MONTHS PAST THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS AND A YEAR PAST
THE HURRICANES.
MAYBE AT THAT POINT WE COULD DO A SIX-MONTH CHECK-IN ON THIS
ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED -- COME BACK TO US AT A SIX-MONTH
POINT, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A SUGGESTION OF -- DO A WELLNESS
CHECK ON WHAT WE DID.
11:45:54AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
WE PASSED THE CHANGE IN APRIL.
SO APRIL 17.
OCTOBER 17 WOULD BE THAT SIX MONTHS FROM WHEN WE DID IT TO
SEE HOW MANY.
I GET THE MONTHLY REPORT.
IT AVERAGES EACH MONTH ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN PROPERTIES THAT
ARE PAYING THE IN LIEU.
I CAN'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD TELL YOU THREE OF THOSE ARE
TREES AND FOUR OF THEM ARE SOMETHING.
BUT I DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.
11:46:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TIE THIS UP.
SO NOVEMBER 6.
MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK NOVEMBER 6
WITH AN EVALUATION AND THE CONSEQUENCES.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?
11:46:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK BROUGHT UP A LOOPHOLE

TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, WHICH I AGREE WITH.
BUT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT OTHER THING.
RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE -- THIS QUESTION IS ABOUT WHAT TO
DO ABOUT HURRICANE.
THE PROBLEM YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE PROBLEM JUST NOW.
HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS.
PEOPLE HOUSES, BECAUSE OF INSURANCE, DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING
COVERED.
HARD TIME COLLECTING MONEY.
THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO TRY TO GET THE MONEY TO REBUILD THEIR
HOUSES WITHOUT HAVING TO SELL THEM IN A FIRE SALE.
SO THEY FINALLY GET TO THAT POINT.
THEN THEY GO FOR THE PERMITS.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBERS.
YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS.
BUT THEN THE CITY SAYS, OKAY, IF YOU CAN'T BUILD THE
SIDEWALK, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE $24,000 FEE.
THEY SAID $24,000, WHY IS THAT?
AT LEAST IN A COUPLE OF CASES, THE STAFF SAID, WELL, USED TO
BE 8,000.
CITY COUNCIL AS OF APRIL 1 CHANGED TO 24,000.
PEOPLE SAY CITY COUNCIL TRIPLED THE FEE FOR HURRICANE
VICTIMS, WHY WOULD CITY COUNCIL TRIPLE THE FEE FOR HURRICANE
VICTIMS?
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

THAT'S WHERE THE QUESTION AND PROBLEM CAME FROM.
11:47:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THINK THERE IS A POSSIBILITY YOU CAN
CHANGE IT.
THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD THE DISASTER IN THEIR HOUSE AND HAD
TO REBUILD AND SO FORTH THAT ARE REALLY STRUGGLING, I THINK
YOU OUGHT TO TAKE CARE OF THE ONES THAT BROUGHT IN AND GET
YOUR PERMIT TO REBUILD THE PROPERTY, WHATEVER IT IS.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU CAN GIVE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE
YOUR PERMIT THAT YOU WENT TO THE CITY, GET A PERMIT TO
REBUILD WHATEVER THE DAMAGE WAS TO THE PROPERTY.
AND THEREFORE THOSE ARE ENTITLED TO IT.
IT'S GOT TO BE WITH SOMETHING.
JUST CAN'T BE BLANK.
11:48:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON CLEARLY DETAILED IT.
MIGHT BE THE SAME INDIVIDUAL.
AT LEAST ONE PERSON, REACH OUT TO MAYBE ALL OF US, WE'RE
DOING THIS, WE'RE REBUILDING, HERE WE GET SLAPPED WITH 24,
25 THOUSAND DOLLAR FEE.
SAME THING.
COUNCIL, WHATEVER.
I DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT, BUT IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
AT THE VERY LEAST, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIVE IT, YOU
MENTIONED, SOMEBODY COMES IN AND BUYS 48 LOTS AND BUILDING
ALL NEW SIDEWALKS, THEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'LL
HAVE SPOTTY SIDEWALKS.

AT LEAST IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIVE IT, ALLOW THOSE PEOPLE
THAT WERE DAMAGED BY THE HURRICANE IN OCTOBER, WHENEVER IT
WAS, ALMOST A YEAR AGO AND DID THEIR PERMITS AND GOT ALL THE
CONSTRUCTION IN THE EXISTING HOME.
THEY ARE TRYING TO REBUILD AND STAY IN THE HOME.
THE ORIGINAL NAMES ON THE DEED, PUT THEM BACK TO THE
PREVIOUS FEE BEFORE THE INCREASE.
11:49:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT ABOUT CREATING -- COULD WE TODAY
GRANT STAFF THE AUTHORITY TO ADMINISTRATIVELY WAIVE FEES
TILL THE END OF THE YEAR FOR THESE HARDSHIP?
11:49:48AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR THAT IN THE
ORDINANCE.
11:49:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
11:49:55AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
11:49:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:49:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I CLEARLY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
I SUPPORTED THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM PHILOSOPHICALLY, IDEOLOGICALLY WITH
PUTTING REGULATIONS AND DIFFERENT THINGS ON PEOPLE THAT GO
FOR THE GREATER GOOD, SO LONG AS THEY ARE REASONABLE AND
NARROWLY TAILORED AND SO FORTH FROM A PHILOSOPHICAL
PERSPECTIVE.

I'M REMINDED OF A BOOK BIG IN THE LATE 1990s, REMEMBER THE
DEATH OF COMMON SENSE, FORGOT THE GENTLEMAN WHO WROTE IT,
HOWARD PHILLIPS.
WHATEVER HIS NAME WAS.
THIS COULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU HAVE A VERY WELL
ENDED REGULATION OR LAW THAT DOES GREAT THINGS, BUT THERE
YOU HAVE THE EXCEPTION WHERE IT HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
AND I THINK GIVEN THE TRAGEDY THAT WE WENT THROUGH A YEAR
AGO, AND GOD WILLING WE DON'T GO THROUGH AGAIN, I DO THINK
THAT SOME REFORM OF THE PROCESS IS WARRANTED, THAT'S VERY
NARROWLY TAILORED.
AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO UNDERMINE THE REVENUE CAPACITY, OR I
SHOULD SAY THE SIDEWALK CAPACITY OF THE LAW.
I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT SOMETHING.
11:51:05AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WE'RE JUST TALKING.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS.
ONE I HEAR, THOUGH, IS AN ISSUE WITH 22-103 WHERE YOU'RE NOT
IN FAVOR OF THE CRITERIA THAT TALKS ABOUT NO OTHER SIDEWALKS
ON THE STREET.
WHILE THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE
TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL GET TO THAT RIGHT NOW IN A
SECOND, THAT STILL, I THINK, NEEDS TO BE HANDLED WITH EITHER
WORKING WITH BRANDON AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO THAT'S ONE THING.
WE'LL KIND OF PUT THAT IN THE JAR OVER HERE RIGHT NOW.

IN RELATION TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, I WAS JUST TALKING
WITH EMMA, WE COULD DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THIS IS ALL RIGHT ON THE FLY WITH YOU RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.
ONE WOULD BE WE RESCIND WHERE YOU CHANGE THE FEE AND WE MAKE
THE EFFECTIVE DATE OUT LATER.
AND WE SAY, WHAT IS PRACTICAL?
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I NEED GUIDANCE THEN ON WHAT REALLY
WAS STORM DAMAGE AND WHY I'M HERE.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO WALK IN AND SAY THIS WAS STORM
DAMAGE AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN AND I WANT TO
PAY THE $29.
THEN IT PUTS THE ONUS ONTO STAFF.
UNLESS WE HAVE CLEAR, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, IF WE'RE SAYING
OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS HURTING, LET'S LOOK AT THIS AND
LET'S SAY WHILE WE CHANGE THIS APRIL 17, DO WE MAKE IT
JANUARY 1st OF 2026?
DO WE GIVE PEOPLE THAT TIME NOW THAT WE SEE THOSE PERMITS
ARE COMING IN TO BENEFIT FROM THE $29 VERSUS THE 279?
THAT IS ONE OPTION.
LIKE I SAID, I'M STANDING HERE WORKING WITH YOU RIGHT NOW ON
KIND OF WHAT SOME OF OUR OPTIONS ARE.
OR, AS EMMA STATED, DO WE MAKE THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGE TO
SOMEHOW CHANGE IT TO SPEAK TO THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND THEN
IF WE DO THAT, HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO TAKE?
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE INTERIM AND ARE WE STILL AT THE SAME

PLACE IF WE JUST ROLL IT BACK FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
A COUPLE ON THE FLY OPTIONS WITH YOU RIGHT HERE AT THE
PODIUM THIS MORNING.
11:53:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:53:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THOSE INDIVIDUALS EITHER HAD INSURANCE OR
HAD FEMA CONVERSATION AND THERE ARE RECORDS OF THAT.
SO THEY SHOULD BRING THE RECORDS.
THEY DON'T HAVE IT.
IF YOU DO THAT, IT CLEARS ALL THAT OUT.
SOMEBODY HAS TO HAVE SOME RECORD OF SOMETIME YOU CAN GET IT
WHEN YOU BUY IT AT HOME DEPOT, LOWES, THE CERTIFICATE AND
THE DATE.
THE CONCEPT IS THERE BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PROOF.
GET IT FROM WHEREVER YOU BOUGHT YOUR LUMBER, ELECTRICAL,
DRYWALL, FLOOR, YOU MUST BRING THAT IN.
I'M SURE THEY HAVE THAT FOR THEIR OWN TAXES.
11:54:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:54:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BASICALLY, THE REASON I TURNED MY LIGHT ON,
WHAT DOES THAT ORDINANCE LOOK LIKE?
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS RIGHT, BUT IT'S REALLY THE PEOPLE WHO
CAME TO YOU WITH THE 51%.
IT'S NOT EVERYONE.
IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO YOU WITH THE 51% THAT WE THE
CITY DESIGNATED.

SO WE CAN EASILY LOOK AT THOSE FOLKS.
THIS APPLIES TO THE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED A 51% LETTER.
AND THAT WAY WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT GOES TILL THE END OF
MAYBE THIS YEAR, 2025.
IF THEY HAVE ALREADY PAID IT, THEY CAN GET SOME MONEY BACK
FOR IT.
WHATEVER IT IS, SO I WOULD LIKE THAT ORDINANCE.
EMMA, I'M SORRY, MS. GREGORY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE OUR OFFICE
CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THAT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE OR IF COUNCIL
MEMBER CARLSON, IT IS YOUR THING.
IF YOU WANT TO WORK WITH MS. GREGORY INSTEAD.
HOW SOON COULD WE BRING THAT ORDINANCE FORWARD?
11:55:28AM >> OBVIOUSLY IF COUNCIL MAKES THE MOTION, I WILL BE WORKING
ON IT.
I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MOVING PARTS HERE.
THERE IS THE LANGUAGE DRAFTING ITSELF.
THERE IS ANY STAFF IMPLICATIONS WITH BOTH MS. FEELEY'S INPUT
AND MR. CAMPBELL'S INPUT.
WHEN WE ARE LOOKING TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE, ONE OF THE
CONSIDERATIONS IS THAT IT WILL APPLY TO EVERYBODY IN THE
CITY.
GOING TO APPLY JUST FOR THIS YEAR?
ARE YOU LOOKING TO INCLUDE FUTURE HURRICANE, PROPERTIES THAT
ARE IMPACTED BY FUTURE HURRICANES?
I WOULD ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO CONSIDER ALL OF

THESE THINGS.
11:56:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I THINK THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS HURRICANE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN --
11:56:18AM >> MILTON AND HELENE?
11:56:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
THE PAST.
NOT THE FUTURE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST AND NOT THE FUTURE.
11:56:27AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
FROM SEPTEMBER 20 WHATEVER IT WAS.
11:56:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
2024.
HELENE AND MILTON.
BECAUSE IF THERE ARE OTHER HURRICANES WHERE PEOPLE HAD 51%
OF DAMAGE --
11:56:44AM >> THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.
HURRICANE SEASON ISN'T OVER THIS YEAR.
11:56:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.
11:56:54AM >> I WOULD SUGGEST SOME TIME FOR ALL OF US TO THINK ABOUT
SOME OF THESE THINGS.
I CERTAINLY HEAR YOUR REQUEST, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE
CHANGING THIS ORDINANCE EVERY YEAR.
11:57:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, THOUGH, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD APPLY
IF PEOPLE HAD HURRICANE DAMAGE TOMORROW, BECAUSE WE CHANGED
THE ORDINANCE IN APRIL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.
THE FUTURE IS 200 AND WHATEVER DOLLARS.
THAT'S THE FUTURE.
THAT IS.
11:57:29AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THAT CLARIFICATION IS VERY HELPFUL.
11:57:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO CLOSE THE
LOOPHOLE ON NO SIDEWALKS ON THE STREET.
THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CHANGE.
I REALLY, I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO DO THIS.
BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT.
BUT IF WHAT WE CAN DO TODAY IS SAY THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD
ON AN ORDINANCE THAT MIGHT ONLY BE PASSED AND BE VIABLE FOR
A MONTH, THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE IF WE PUT THAT NOTIFICATION
THAT WE WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET MONEY BACK IF THEY WERE
PART OF THE 51% AND PAID IT AND THEY CAN GET -- THAT, I
THINK, SOLVES THAT PROBLEM AND PEOPLE CAN SAY, OKAY, COUNCIL
IS WORKING ON THIS ORDINANCE.
IF I HAVE TO PAY THIS MONEY, I WILL GET IT BACK.
SO THAT IS WHAT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
11:58:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AFTER THE HURRICANES, ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE
WAIVED FEES.
THAT DIDN'T COME BEFORE COUNCIL, CORRECT?
11:58:33AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WE WAIVED PERMIT FEES.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.

THAT WAS DONE UNDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT GOVERNOR
DESANTIS AND THE MAYOR AND THE LOCAL, SO WE HAD A STATE
EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THEN A LOCAL WHICH ALLOWED US THIS
OPPORTUNITY.
THAT ENDED AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH.
AT THAT TIME, THE DAY IT ENDED, I ASKED CITY ATTORNEY
ZELMAN, I CAN'T JUST TURN THIS OFF TOMORROW IF SOMEBODY
WALKS IN OUR OFFICE.
CAN WE PLEASE PUT A NOTICE UP THAT SAYS STARTING MARCH 1 --
SORRY, IT ENDED IN FEBRUARY.
STARTING MARCH 1st, ROUGHLY LIKE 14 DAYS AFTER IT ENDED,
WE WILL END DOING THE PERMIT FEES.
SHE LEGALLY WAS OKAY WITH THAT AND INFORMING THE PUBLIC IN
THAT MANNER.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE WENT BACK MARCH 1st, I BELIEVE, AND PUT
EVERYTHING BACK IN BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
WAIVE THE PERMIT FEES.
WE NEVER WAIVED THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEES BECAUSE THOSE ARE
A FEE YOU HAVE ELECTED TO PAY IN TERMS OF YOUR PERMITTING
ACTIVITY.
LIKE, WE NEVER WAIVED IMPACT FEES.
LIKE, WE ONLY HAD THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THE PERMIT FEE.
11:59:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PROBABLY IMPRACTICAL TO FIGURE OUT AN
ADMINISTRATIVE WAY OF HANDLING THIS IT SOUNDS LIKE.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:59:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ISN'T IT POSSIBLE TO AMEND AN ORDINANCE?
YOU CREATE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AN ORDINANCE, INSTEAD OF
REWRITING THE WHOLE THING, CREATE AN AMENDMENT, LIKE A
SCRIVENER'S ERROR THING.
12:00:08PM >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
12:00:10PM >> IT WOULD NOT BE A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
IT WOULD BE A REWRITE.
AN AMENDMENT.
12:00:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I TRY TO MAKE A MOTION?
12:00:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO FOR IT.
12:00:25PM >> THE FEE IS IN THE FEE SCHEDULE.
12:00:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LET ME TRY THIS AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER DETAIL WE CAN ADD.
MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO RETURN ON -- PICK A DATE --
NOVEMBER 6 --
12:00:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THAT TOO EARLY?
12:00:42PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
PART OF WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THIS WOULD
BE RETROACTIVE.
IT'S NOT STOPPING ANYBODY.
WHAT I'LL ASK MY TEAM TO DO THIS AFTERNOON IS GO BACK AND
SEE HOW MANY RIGHT NOW WE MIGHT BE REFUNDING, AND WHAT THOSE
ACTUAL NUMBERS LOOK LIKE.
12:00:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO FOR NOVEMBER 6 AND IF YOU HAVE TO
CONTINUE.
12:01:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO RETURN ON

NOVEMBER 6 WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO ENABLE
HOMEOWNERS WHOSE HOMES WERE DAMAGED BY MILTON AND HELENE,
DAMAGED 51% OR MORE BY MILTON AND HELENE, TO BE
GRANDFATHERED INTO THE OLD SIDEWALK RATE UNTIL DECEMBER 31,
2025.
12:01:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL SUPPORT IT, BUT WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING
ABOUT A RETROACTIVE --
12:01:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DIDN'T SAY RETROACTIVE.
I SAID A BLANKET THING FOR ANYBODY -- IT SAYS TO ENABLE
HOMEOWNERS WHOSE HOMES WERE DAMAGED 51% OR MORE BY MILTON OR
HELENE TO BE GRANDFATHERED INTO THE OLD SIDEWALK RATE --
12:02:03PM >> FEE TABLE.
12:02:04PM >> $29 A LINEAR FOOT.
12:02:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
UNTIL DECEMBER 31st 2025.
12:02:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ABBYE FEELEY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD BEFORE WE VOTE?
12:02:27PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
NO.
I'LL WAIT.
THANK YOU.
12:02:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.

12:02:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL TAKE ON THE PART OF WORKING WITH YOU
ALL.
I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SEND IT TO ALL COUNCIL
MEMBERS BEFORE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
12:02:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I WOULD JUST SAY IN RELATION TO YOUR OTHER
CONCERN, THEN THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE MOTION AS TO HOW YOU
WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE THAT IN LOOKING AT 22-103 AND THE
CRITERIA ASSOCIATED WITH PAYING FEE IN LIEU.
12:03:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S TRY THAT.
I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK AND I'M ALSO GOING
TO PUT THAT NOVEMBER 6 DATE IN AGAIN.
IF IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, THAT'S FINE.
HOW ABOUT DECEMBER -- CAN I TELL BY YOUR FACE.
NO, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
12:03:33PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I WOULD LIKE TO PRIORITIZE WHAT YOU WOULD
LIKE FIRST.
BECAUSE I DO FEEL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST
DISCUSSION ON THE SECOND MATTER.
I THINK ALLOWING TBBA AND ALLOWING US TO LET SOME OF OUR
ADVISORY GROUPS KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS FURTHER
DISCUSSION AND HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT I THINK WOULD
BE BENEFICIAL.
12:03:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL ASK STAFF TO COME BACK DECEMBER 4 WITH
INITIAL CONVERSATION, NOT AN ORDINANCE, BUT INITIAL
CONVERSATION ABOUT 22-103-C-1.

12:04:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
CAN YOU MAKE THAT FOR MOBILITY?
MOBILITY WOULD BE LEAD ON THAT.
12:04:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST SAID STAFF IN GENERAL.
THAT WAY YOU ALL CAN DECIDE WHERE IT GOES.
SECTION 22-103-C, SUBSECTION 1, WHETHER THERE IS NO EXISTING
SIDEWALK TO WHICH THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK CAN CONNECT, WE
WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TAKING OUT THAT PROVISION, BUT ALSO
ALLOWING FOR A PROVISION IF THERE IS A SIDEWALK ACROSS THE
STREET.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
THAT IS MY MOTION.
12:04:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID YOU CAPTURE ENOUGH OF THAT?
12:04:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE MOTION IS TO HAVE THEM COME BACK WITH
SOME SUGGESTIONS BEFORE WE GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE
CONVERSATIONS.
12:05:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GET YOUR INTENT.
I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THEM CAPTURING THAT IN WRITING.
12:05:08PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I HAVE
THE DATA FROM THE LAST TWO YEARS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HOW
MANY HAVE ACTUALLY USED THAT EXCEPTION AND WHETHER THAT IS
THE PREDOMINANT EXEMPTION.
I ALSO HAVE THE ADDRESSES AND THE MAP.
WE HAVE A GOOD STARTING POINT ON THAT.
12:05:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD DISCUSSION.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE LAST LITTLE BIT
OF BUSINESS BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH.
12:05:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ITEM 71 BECAUSE MS. FEELEY IS HERE.
I WAS LATE TO COUNCIL TODAY.
12:05:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CONTINUED THAT TO 10/23.
WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN AT 1:30.
WE HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE COMING AT 1:30 AND THEN NEW BUSINESS.
IF YOU GUYS COULD BE IN YOUR SEATS AND READY TO GO AT 1:30.
WE ARE ON BREAK FOR LUNCH.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[LUNCH RECESS]

01:30:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CALL THE CITY OF TAMPA BACK TO ORDER.
HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GOOD LUNCH.
ROLL CALL PLEASE.
01:30:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
01:30:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
01:30:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
01:30:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
01:30:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
01:30:31PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A QUORUM.
01:30:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TWO ITEMS OF BUSINESS.
TIME CERTAIN FOR ITEM 69.
STAFF TO PRESENT A MONTHLY REPORT ON THE UPDATE OF FIRE
STATION 24.
SO, CHIEF.
HI, TIM.
STAFF REPORT.
WE DON'T NEED MARTY.
01:31:04PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
OF COURSE, WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT AND GIVE YOU INFORMATION
AS FAR AS THE UPDATE ON STATION 24.
I HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER HERE AS WELL, AND I WILL LET HIM
INTRODUCE HIMSELF.
AND WE WERE ABLE -- I DON'T KNOW IF CCTV WAS ABLE TO PUT IT
UP, BUT WE CAN PRESENT IT ON --
01:31:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CCTV IF YOU HAVE IT UP -- WE HAVE
SOMETHING HERE -- LOOKS LIKE WE DO.
IF YOU CAN PUT THE PRESENTATION UP ON THE CHAMBER'S LARGE
SCREENS, THAT WILL BE GREAT.
BROADCAST.
THERE WE GO.
01:32:07PM >> GREAT.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS KEN GUYETTE.
WE ARE THE PROJECT MANAGERS FOR THIS FIRE STATION 24 PROJECT.
AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE CORE TEAM OF
THE PROJECT ON THIS FIRST SLIDE.
AND AS WE GET INTO THIS LATEST UPDATE, I WANT TO TALK A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY MILESTONES THAT WERE MET
THIS LAST -- SINCE WE LAST SPOKE.
FIRST OF WHICH WAS THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE.
THE PLAN UPDATES FOR SCHEMATIC DESIGN WAS COMPLETED A LITTLE
AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON THE SECOND OF SEPTEMBER.
THE TREE MITIGATION SURVEY HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
WE HAVE POWERLINE RELOCATION DISCUSSIONS ONGOING WITH TECO.
IF YOU RECALL, WE HAVE POWER LINES ON THE SITE AND SEE IF WE
CAN GET THOSE BURIED, AND THOSE OPTIONS ARE BEING WEIGHED ON
RIGHT NOW AND DISCUSSED.
I THINK THE PREFERRED OPTION BY ALL IS TO BURY THOSE LINES
AND MAKE SURE WE ARE CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION WITH TECO.
VACATING THE ALCOLU ROAD.
IT WAS PASSED.
GOOD NEWS.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO MARCH FORWARD BASED ON THAT AND WILL
BASICALLY COMBINE THESE TWO PARCEL INTO ONE, WHICH WILL BE
GOOD FOR THE PROJECT.
TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN AND THE UPDATE ON THE
DESIGN, THE LATEST SITE PLAN.
THE THREE LARGE GREEN CIRCLES AROUND HERE ARE THE GRAND
TREES.
THEY ARE ON THE GRAND LIST AND SHOWING ALL THOSE TREES BEING
SAVED AROUND -- KEPT ON-SITE.
SO THERE IS TREE MITIGATION AND PROTECTION ON -- WITHIN THE
CONTRACT DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD TO ENSURE
THAT THOSE TREES ARE NOT DAMAGED IN ANY WAY DUE TO ANY
CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.
I SPOKE LAST TIME.
WE DID -- AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE UNDERGROUND
DRAINAGE STRUCTURES THAT ARE A BIG PART OF THE COST OF THE
PROJECT.
AND IF YOU LOOK DIRECTLY TO THE RIGHT -- TO THE EAST SIDE OF
THE -- OF THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU.
ALL THOSE LINES MEAN THAT THERE IS A DEPRESSION THERE, AND THE
STORMWATER MITIGATION WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN WITH THE
SEDIMENTATION RETENTION POND TO THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE
PROPERTY.
JUST AGAIN TO ORIENT YOURSELF, WE ACCESS THE PROPERTY
THROUGH THE FAR WESTERN SIDE OF THE PLAN, UP THE DRIVEWAY.
THERE IS A SECURITY GATE THAT ALLOWS ACCESS TO THE TEAM, FIRE
STATION TEAM ONLY.
THERE ARE FOUR PARKING SPOTS IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT AS YOU
ENTER.
THOSE ARE FOR VISITOR PARKING.
YOU ENTER THROUGH THE SECURITY GATES.
COME AROUND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
THAT'S WHERE YOU WILL HAVE ENTRANCE AND EGRESS INTO THE
APPARATUS BAYS ,AND APPARATUS WILL EXIT AND EGRESS OUT OF THE
SOUTH PART OF THE BAY AGAIN BACK ON EAST WHITE WAY.
ONE OF THE REQUESTED ITEMS WAS THE PERCENTAGE OF IMPERVIOUS
SERVICE CALCULATED CURRENTLY AT 42% IMPERVIOUS SURFACE
RATIO.
IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE CAN GET THAT FROM
THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND GET THAT OVER TO THE COUNCIL.
HERE IS THE UPDATED FLOOR PLAN.
A COUPLE OF KEY NOTES ON THE FLOOR PLAN ARE WE ARE ABLE TO REDUCE
SQUARE FOOTAGE AND CONTINUE AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE TO
MAKE IT A MORE EFFICIENT PLAN TO REDUCE SQUARE FOOTAGE WHERE
IT SEEMS PRUDENT WITHOUT COMPROMISING PROGRAM.
THIS FLOOR PLAN AS CURRENTLY INSTITUTED WILL HAVE TWO FIRE
FIGHTERS, ONE CAPTAIN, ONE LIEUTENANT, ONE DISTRICT CHIEF --
EXCUSE ME, AT THREE SHIFTS.
SO THREE SHIFTS.
IT WILL BE THREE SHIFTS OF ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS CARRIED
FORWARD THAT WILL BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THIS PLAN.
CURRENTLY, THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE -- SO OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO SHRINK THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE DOWN CONSIDERABLY.
AND THE ORIGINAL GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE ORIGINAL SPACE
NEEDS ASSESSMENT WAS 24,135 GROSS SQUARE FEET.
SO WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY MAKE THIS A MUCH MORE
EFFICIENT PLAN AND REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH WILL
THEN TURN INTO SAVINGS ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE.
THE NEXT FOUR SLIDES ARE THE EXTERIOR RENDERINGS.
AND, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST GRAPHIC REPRESENTATIONS WHAT THE
BUILDING ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
THERE WILL BE SOME MORE ITERATIONS AGAIN, SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE.
AS WE GO THROUGH DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND INTO CONSTRUCTION
DOCUMENTS, THIS WILL BE, AGAIN, MORE ENHANCED AS WE GO
FORWARD.
THE COLORS MAY CHANGE SLIGHTLY DEPENDING ON WHAT THE
REACTION IS TO THE TEAM, ETC., ETC.
BUT, BY IN LARGE, THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE FROM THE SOUTHWEST OF
THE BUILDING.
THE SOUTHEAST IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
LOOKING AT THE APPARATUS BAYS.
THIS IS THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE YOU WILL SEE THE
EXTERIOR AREA FOR THE PHYSICAL AGILITY SPACE, OUTDOOR
PHYSICAL AGILITY SPACE, AS WELL AS OUTDOOR DINING AREA.
AND THEN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS, AGAIN, LOOKING
AT THE INGRESS SIDE OF THE VEHICLE APPARATUS BAY.
PROJECT SCHEDULE.
WE ARE CURRENTLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND WORKING TO IMPROVE
THOSE.
LAST TIME WE MET, WE HAD SEVERAL OPTIONS AND THINGS TOO LOOK
AT AS WE MARCH THIS FROM SCHEMATIC TO DESIGN THAT WE WILL
WORK TOWARD.
SOME OF THOSE STARTED TO SHOW -- COME TO FRUITION.
ONE OF THOSE IS THE USE OF TILT-UP WALL CONSTRUCTION IN THIS
EARLY DESIGN.
WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.
IT WILL DEFINITELY SAVE ON CONSTRUCTION TIME.
WE WILL KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW MUCH TIME IT WILL SAVE AS
WE GET MORE OF THE UPCOMING MILESTONES OF CONSTRUCTABILITY
AND ESTIMATE FOR SCHEMATIC DESIGN, WHICH IS DUE THE MIDDLE
OF OCTOBER.
THIS IS WHERE NOW THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER GETS TO TAKE A
LOOK AT THE PLANS.
HE GETS TO PUT SOME NUMBERS AND TIMELINE TO IT.
AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO, AGAIN, WORK TO REDUCE BOTH OF THOSE
NUMBERS AS WE KEEP MARCHING FORWARD.
JUST A GOOD BAROMETER AS WE WORK THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC
DESIGN PHASE.
THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE IN COMPLETION, WHICH INCLUDES THE
CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE AND CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW, WILL BE
COMPLETE BY THE END OF OCTOBER 10, 2024 TO BE EXACT.
AND BEGIN DESIGN ELEMENTS, FURTHER DESIGN ENHANCEMENTS, AND
FURTHER DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS THAT WILL HAVE A FULL SET OF
CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
THOSE PLAN UPDATES WILL BE COMPLETED ON OR ABOUT THE 9th OF
DECEMBER.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO REDUCE THE REVIEW TIMES.
AND REVIEW TIMES HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY SWIFT WITH -- WITH TFR
AND THEIR TEAM.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO REDUCE PERMITTING DURATIONS,
WORK TO REDUCE THE DESIGN DURATIONS.
AND STILL CONTINUE TO LOOK UP EARLY ENABLING WORK AND PUSH
TO GET SOMETHING THAT IS OUT ON-SITE EARLY.
AND THAT WILL -- THAT WILL BE TELLING AS WE GET INTO THE
FIRST CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW AND GET INTO SOME OF THE
CONVERSATIONS IN MORE -- IN MORE FINER DETAIL, DETAIL DURING
CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW.
SO WITH THAT, IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE MORE THAN
HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
01:39:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:39:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I APPRECIATE IT.
I APPRECIATE CHIEF TRIPP YOUR HARD WORK AND MR. MUTTERBACK
FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND LOCAL 754 PUSHING FOR THIS AS
WELL.
I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
QUICK QUESTION, SIR.
WHEN DO WE -- AN AMENDED DATE FOR GROUNDBREAKING.
IF I RECALL -- I DIDN'T SLEEP A LOT LAST NIGHT FOR SOME
REASON, SEPTEMBER 26, THE ROUGH DATE.
01:40:27PM >> SHOWING IN THEIR SCHEDULE AND CONSTRUCTABILITY AND COST
ESTIMATE IN OCTOBER, AND HOPEFULLY WILL PULL THAT DATE BACK
AND HAVE A BETTER CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW.
01:40:39PM >> HOW MUCH TIME DID THAT SHAVE OFF?
I AM NOT GOING TO HOLD TO YOU IT, BY THE WAY.
01:40:43PM >> WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WILL SHAVE OFF A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT
OF TIME WITH TILT-WALL CONSTRUCTION AND HOPEFULLY SHAVE OFF
WEEKS IF NOT DAYS OFF OF THAT SCHEDULE.
HOPEFULLY MONTHS IF WE CAN GET THAT.
01:40:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR.
I WAS SPEAKING TO MR. MUTTERBACK WHO WAS SAYING WHAT A GREAT
JOB YOU HAVE DONE AND WHAT A VALUABLE ASSET YOU HAVE BEEN IN
HELPING CHIEF TRIPP AND EVERYBODY ON THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
WHEN DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE, ACCORDINGLY, THEN READY TO OPEN
AND EVERYTHING?
LITTLE BIT OF TIME OFF, YOU THINK?
01:41:15PM >> YEAH, EXACTLY.
SO -- WE ARE GOING TO GET THAT -- AGAIN, THAT GRAND OPENING,
THAT -- THAT RIBBON-CUTTING PULLED BACK AT LEAST THE SAME
KIND OF DURATION AS THE EARLY ON-SITE, GETTING THE
GROUNDBREAKING.
WHEREVER WE CAN PULL BACK THE TIME HOPEFULLY BE REFLECT
THROUGH THE DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND, AGAIN, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF GETTING THAT
PULLED BACK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
01:41:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
I THINK IT'S '27.
I WILL BE OUT OF HERE BUT WHOEVER COUNCIL PICKS AS MY
REPLACEMENT AND THE VOTERS PICK, WILL BE A GREAT
CELEBRATION.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT PLACES THE LAST THREE FIRE
STATIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA NORTH AND NEW TAMPA.
THIS IS NORTH TAMPA.
WE HAVE 23 IN NEW TAMPA FOR GRAND HAMPTON AREA.
25 THAT IS -- SULPHUR SPRINGS AND GEARED TOWARD NORTH TAMPA
TO HELP OUT WITH STATION 13.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE WORKED ON WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND
THEN JOE GRECO WAS THE HEAD OF UNION, IF I RECALL.
SO THIS IS GOING TO FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED, SO TO SPEAK ON
THIS WITH -- AND HELPING OUT NORTH TAMPA.
I -- YOU KNOW, I THINK I LAST WENT TO STATION 13 ON LABOR
DAY.
AND THEY -- THEY ARE DOING BETTER, THANK GOD, WHICH IS GREAT.
THEY SEE DIFFERENCE WITH STATION 25 AND HELPING THEM OUT
WITH RESPONSE TIMES AND WORKLOAD AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
I ALWAYS SAY -- YOU KNOW, I -- WE HAVE -- NOT TO TALK
POLITICS, BUT WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP FOR MAYOR.
AND OBVIOUSLY, I AM NOT RUNNING FOR MAYOR.
I AM NOT RUNNING FOR CITY OFFICE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE,
JUST AS SOMEBODY THAT CARES A LOT FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
I REALLY HOPE WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION IN THAT
ELECTION ON FIRE STATIONS.
I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION TO
REALLY, REALLY HIT THAT ISSUE VERY HARD.
I KNOW WE ARE WORKING ON THE -- THE FLEET MAINTENANCE AND
MOVING THAT OUT OF STATION 9 TO HELP EXPAND ROOM IN STATION
9 TO ASSIST WITH EXTENSION OF A GROWING WEST TAMPA.
I MAINTAIN WE NEED ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS IN NEW TAMPA.
LIKE I TALKED IN THE BUDGET HEARING, DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
I HOPE THAT IS A BIG DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS SHOULD BE THE
BEGINNING.
AGAIN, I STATED MY POSITION MANY TIMES WITH MY DISAGREEMENT
WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON FIRE STATIONS, BUT I AM JUST GLAD
TO SEE THIS HAPPEN AND GLAD TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE
GETTING IN.
AGAIN, THAT'S -- EVERYBODY HAS THEIR FUNCTION.
AND I AM AN ATTORNEY.
I AM A VERY GOOD -- I AM GOOD IN COURT.
I AM GOOD IN DEPOSITIONS.
THIS AND THAT.
YOU GIVE ME LEGAL RESEARCH, I WILL GIVE IT TO A POINDEXTER.
EVERYBODY HAS THEIR STRENGTH AT THINGS AND THAT IS THE WAY
IT IS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND HELPING FOLKS OUT BECAUSE I
THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, CHIEF.
THANK YOU, MR. MUTTERBACK.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
01:44:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:44:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FOR THOSE POINTS, AND THE
QUESTIONS OF THE TIMELINE WERE MINE AS WELL.
BUT I AM GOING TO GO TO THE OTHER SIDE.
I HEARD YOU SAY "SAVINGS."
WHEN I HEARD "SAVINGS," THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT YOU
MENTIONED THAT THERE IS NO LONGER A VAULT.
WE MOVED IT.
SO IN THAT OCTOBER UPDATE, WILL WE ALSO HAVE AN UPDATE ON
THE SAVINGS?
01:44:42PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
THE INTENT IS TO HAVE A CONSTRUCTION BUDGET BACK FROM THE
CONTRACTOR THAT WILL GIVE US AN ESTIMATE WHERE WE ARE
STANDING WITH CONSTRUCTION.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT VALUE MANAGEMENT AS WE WORK
FORWARD TO GET THAT NUMBER BACK DOWN AS WE ARE CONTINUING ON
TO THE NEXT PHASE.
INTENT IS THAT WE SEE THE NUMBER NOW.
HOPEFULLY, IT IS GOOD.
WE WORK TO GET IT DOWN, MORE, MORE, MORE.
DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
HAPPENS AGAIN AND ANOTHER CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW AND ANOTHER
CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE.
LIKEWISE IN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PHASE, WE ARE GOING TO GET
THE SAME THING.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT COST ESTIMATES BETWEEN
NOW AND THE TIME IT ACTUALLY GOES.
AND THEY START TO PUT IT OUT ON THE STREET WITH THEIR
SUBCONTRACTORS.
INTENT IS TO BE VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBER
BEFORE THEY ARE RELEASED TO GO.
NO SURPRISES COME THE TIME THAT WE GET NUMBERS BACK FROM THE
SUBCONTRACTORS THAT WE ARE READY TO START DIGGING IMMEDIATELY.
01:45:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
THAT IS VERY GOOD.
I LOOKED AT THE FLOOR PLAN.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THE LAST TIME I WAS UP TO VISIT MY MOTHER,
I WAS ABLE TO GET INTO FIRE STATION NUMBER 1 FOR GAINESVILLE
FIRE RESCUE -- OR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEIR RESCUE IS DIFFERENT.
AND THEY -- I GOT A GREAT TOUR.
THEY TOLD ME OF STUFF THAT WAS AWESOME AND STUFF THAT DID
NOT WORK.
SO I STILL NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO CHIEF TRIPP ABOUT IT
BECAUSE I WILL.
THERE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS I SEE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WERE
BEST PRACTICE FOR THAT STATION.
AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I CAN'T REALLY SEE SUPER CLEAR ON THIS.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
SORRY THAT DURING LUNCH I WASN'T ABLE TO COME DOWN.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
ON THE NOTE OF, YOU KNOW, BUILDING MORE FIRE STATIONS.
I WAS JUST AT STATION 4 ON MONDAY ALL DAY TO SEE WHAT 4 AND
10 WERE LIKE TOGETHER.
AND WHILE IT WORKS BECAUSE STATION 4 JUST HAPPENS TO HAVE
THE ROOM FOR THAT, YEAH, STATION 10 REALLY -- WE -- AND WE
CAN'T START THAT UNTIL FLEET AND SUPPLY IS DONE.
MY OTHER QUESTION TO YOU OR I GUESS TO CHIEF TRIPP OR EVEN
TO MR. MUTTERBACK, IS HE AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH FLEET AND
SUPPLY?
01:46:47PM >> I WILL SAY YES.
[LAUGHTER]
01:46:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SPOKEN LIKE A CONTRACTOR.
01:46:54PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I KNOW THIS IS OFF THE RECORD, BUT I WILL
BRIBE HIM TO STAY AROUND.
01:46:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS SOUNDS GREAT AND ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD
AND HELP CHIEF TRIPP THAT HAS SO MUCH ON HER PLATE TO BE
ABLE TO -- BECAUSE FLEET AND SUPPLY WILL BE THE SAME THING.
WE WILL HAVE THE NEEDS.
MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN ABOUT THIS -- AND AGAIN WE CAN TALK
OFF-LINE.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM FOR 11 FIRE FIGHTERS
AND THE FOLKS WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF THEM, LIKE, IS THERE ROOM
FOR GROWTH?
BECAUSE FOUR BAYS MEANS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHILE WE ARE VALUE ENGINEERING
FOR SPACE, WE ARE ALSO THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT THAT SPACE
MIGHT MEET -- BE RECONFIGURED IF WE ENDED UP NEEDING MORE
BODIES IN THAT SPACE.
01:47:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE HE ANSWERS THAT QUESTION, I WANT TO
EXPAND ON THAT BECAUSE WAS GOING TO BE MY POINT AS WELL.
WITH ALL OF THE EXPANSIONS WE SEE AT USF AND THE
REDEVELOPMENT AND REIMAGINING OF FOWLER AND YOU ALL ANTICIPATE
A LOT OF INCREASED DENSITY.
WITH WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK JUST SAID, HOW DOES THAT PLAY
IN THIS DESIGN?
01:48:12PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
I WILL SPEAK ON PART.
CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF.
MY PLAN OF BUILDING THE STATION.
RIGHT NOW STATION 24, THE RESOURCE THAT ARE THERE ARE AN
ENGINE AND A RESCUE, TO OKAY.
WITH NORTH TAMPA GROWING, WITH THE STADIUM COMING, WITH ALL
OF THAT BEING DEVELOPED, THAT IS WHY I NEEDED A FOUR BAY TO
PREDICT FOR GROWTH.
JUST LIKE NOW, YOU WENT TO STATION 4 AND WITH STATION 4, WE
ARE PUTTING ALL OF THE RESOURCES.
JUST LIKE STATION 1.
I DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR RESCUE 6.
I HAD TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE.
THAT IS -- THAT STATION THERE IS BASICALLY LOOKING FOR THE
FUTURE.
BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ACT MORE.
THE CITY IS GROWING.
THE POPULATION HAS INCREASED.
YOU KNOW, INCIDENTS ARE HAPPENING.
THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ROOM TO
PUT ANOTHER ENGINE OR ANOTHER RESCUE CAR, WHATEVER RESOURCE
THAT WE NEED FOR WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN THAT AREA.
A LADDER TRUCK FOR A CHIEF.
OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING FOUR BAYS THERE.
01:49:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SAYING NOT ALL OF THESE DORM SPACE WILL BE
FULL IMMEDIATELY.
SO THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING, BECAUSE I DID NOTICE THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT WHILE I WAS AT STATION 4.
10'S ENGINE IS OUTSIDE BECAUSE THERE IS NO ROOM FOR IT
BECAUSE THEY -- EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE ENOUGH BAYS, THOSE
HOLD OTHER IMPORTANT APPARATUS.
AND THAT'S WHERE THEY LIVE.
BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO IT THE PORT AND TO OTHER AREAS.
SO IT IS ALWAYS INTERESTING TO BE AT STATION 4 FOR THAT
REASON.
01:49:48PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
THAT IS ANOTHER THING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT
WAS A FIRE DEPARTMENT.
NOW WE HAVE BEEN FIRE RESCUE.
WE ADDED MORE RESOURCES TO THESE STATIONS THAT ARE 65 YEARS
OLD.
SO WE NEED TO GROW THE STATIONS AS WELL.
01:50:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY HOW MUCH I ENJOY THE
RIDE-ALONGS.
I LEARN A LOT.
GOT TO SEE NEW STUFF -- EVERY TIME I GO, I SEE SOMETHING NEW,
AND I LOVE THE RIDE-ALONGS FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
I LEARN A LOT.
WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY HOW MUCH I -- I LEARN
AND RESPECT ALL THE FOLKS WHO DO THAT WORK.
SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
THANK YOU.
01:50:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO THE PLAN IS -- THIS IS BUILT FOR
EXPANSION AND COLLOCATION FOR RESCUE AND FIRE?
01:50:34PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES, SIR.
01:50:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SIZE OF IT?
GREAT.
ONE QUICK QUESTION.
THIS COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH A PHONE CALL, BUT I AM
CURIOUS.
BECAUSE FIRE STATIONS ARE BEING BUILT FREAKING EVERYWHERE.
JUST IN FLORIDA WITH THE GROWTH.
WHY ARE THEY ALL SPECIFIC?
WHY DON'T WE HAVE A TURNKEY DESIGN.
WHY NOT BUY A SET OF PLANS AND BUILD A FIRE STATION.
01:50:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LAND.
01:51:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOTHING REALLY COMPLEX ABOUT THIS.
01:51:02PM >> SOMETIMES IT IS DEPENDENT ON WHAT THE USE OF THAT
PARTICULAR FIRE STATION MIGHT BE, WHAT KIND OF APPARATUS IT HAS.
THE KIND OF SUPPORT STAFF THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE.
WHETHER A FULL-TIME FIRE FIGHTER OR PART-TIME FIRE FIGHTER.
WHETHER THEY STAY THERE.
A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS.
CHIEF CAN PROBABLY TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
A LOT TO HAVE KIND OF -- I THINK A FPA, IF THEY COULD, WOULD
ABSOLUTELY HAVE -- HERE IS A PERFECT FIRE STATION AND BUILD
THIS.
01:51:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MODEL A, B, C AND D.
DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE?
ALL CUSTOM?
01:51:40PM >> NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
I AM SURE THERE ARE ARCHITECTS THAT ARE ABLE TO PULL OUT OF
THEIR PORTFOLIO, AND SAY WE USED THIS AND BASICALLY DONE IT IN
FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
01:51:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE WE GET E-MAILS FROM THE PRESIDENT
OF THE 754 AND THE FIRE STATIONS.
AND SURELY, THERE HAVE TOO BE TURNKEY MODELS OF THESE THINGS.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:52:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY NAME IS NOT SURELY.
IT IS AN OLD JOKE.
01:52:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OUR AUDIENCE IS THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF 18-24.
[LAUGHTER]
01:52:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU TO CHIEF TRIPP AND EVERYONE WHO IS
WORKING ON THIS.
AND SPECIAL THANKS TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
THIS HAS BEEN MAYBE A SIX OR MORE, SEVEN YEAR -- ALMOST THE
WHOLE TIME I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL'S PROJECT THAT COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA IS LEADING.
ONE THING THAT I WANT TO SAY IS FOR THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND
WOMEN OF THE FIRE RESCUE AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO WANT
US TO PUT MORE RESOURCES AND POUR MORE RESOURCES, THE IDEA
THAT WE ALL GOT BEHIND THIS ONE.
NOT IN MY DISTRICT, BUT I SUPPORTED IT.
MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORTED IT.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE QUEUE OF THINGS WE HAVE TO GET
THROUGH.
THIS ONE HAS TAKEN YEARS AND YEARS.
AND I AM HOPING THAT ONCE THIS IS DONE, THAT WE CAN MOVE THE
BACKLOG OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE IN COUNCIL AND FIRE FIGHTERS
AND NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD LIKE.
I HOPE THIS WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF MANY POSITIVE THINGS TO
COME.
THANK YOU.
01:53:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING ELSE?
01:53:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
01:53:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:53:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAD A MESSAGE THAT I SENT TO MY PUBLIC
E-MAIL, BY THE WAY.
IF THEY CAN MAKE THIS PRESENTATION AVAILABLE ON BASE.
SOMEBODY HAD ASKED ME THAT.
01:53:27PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YES.
01:53:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS FUN IF I WAS LAUGHING WHEN LYNN HURTAK
WAS TALKING OF DOING THE RIDE ALONGS.
AND CHIEF TRIPP, SPENT THE NIGHT AT STATION 123, SHOCKED
THAT YOU LET ME DO THAT BECAUSE I AM SO DAMN CLUMSY.
I AM A RISK LIABILITY.
THAT'S ALL.
I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT.
REMINDED ME I GUESS.
01:53:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT REPORT.
APPRECIATE IT.
01:53:56PM >> THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
01:53:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
HERE WE GO.
WE ARE.
01:54:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A REALLY LOVELY PICTURE.
01:54:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OF ME?
[LAUGHTER]
OKAY.
WE ARE -- WOULD LIKE TO A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM NUMBER 63.
IF YOU WERE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY AND
SPEAK ON ITEM 63, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE
SWORN IN BY THE CLERK.
[SWEARING IN]
01:54:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WHO IS GOING TO KICK US OFF?
01:55:07PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
ITEM NUMBER 63 IS REGARDING FILE NUMBER FDN 25-36.
MR. SHELBY SHOULD BE HANDLING -- HANDING OUT THE CODE
SECTION 27-61 AND RECOMMENDED ORDER REGARDING THIS MATTER,
BUT I TOOK THE LIBERTY TO EXPLAIN THE SECTION, WHERE WE ARE,
AND WHAT CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE IS TODAY.
I DID THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A BREAKDOWN OF 27-16 ON THE ELMO
-- ON A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON THE WOLF.
01:55:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHOULD SELF-ACTIVATE WHEN YOU THROW IT ON
THERE, UNLESS THEY FLIP A SWITCH.
01:55:54PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
MAY I PROCEED?
01:56:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
01:56:01PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
AS INDICATED, THIS MATTER IS BEFORE
YOU TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED ORDER BY THE HEARING OFFICER
WHO CONDUCTED THE DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING REGARDING THIS
MATTER.
THE DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING ALREADY TOOK PLACE.
FOR CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION ON THE RECOMMENDED ORDER,
AS OUTLINED IN CODE SECTION 27-16, SUBSECTIONS J-1-E, iii.
CITY COUNCIL MAY ADOPT IT AS FINAL, REJECT THE RECOMMENDED
ORDER IN ITS ENTIRETY, OR MODIFY THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
THE FINAL ORDER, ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 27-61,
SUBSECTIONS J-1-3i.
CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT REJECT OR REMODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT
REACHED BY THE HEARING OFFICER.
THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS OUTLINED IN THE CODE.
YOU CAN'T CHANGE HIS FINDINGS OF FACT.
IT ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU THINK THAT
FURTHER FACT-FINDING IS NEEDED.
YOU CAN ALWAYS MODIFY -- ALWAYS REMAND THIS MATTER BACK TO
THE HEARING OFFICER FOR FURTHER FACT FINDING.
ALSO, CODE SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTIONS J-1-E iii SAYS IF CITY
COUNCIL REJECTS OR REMODIFIES CONCLUSION OF LAW, YOU MUST
STATE WITH PARTICULARITY TO MODIFY THE CONCLUSIONS AND MUST
STATE THAT YOUR FINDING -- THAT IT IS SUBSTITUTION OF A
CONCLUSION OF LAW IS OR AS MORE REASONABLE AS REJECTED AND
MODIFIED.
THIS IS THE LANGUAGE FROM THE CODE.
I MODIFIED IT.
IT IS WHAT IS IN THE CODE.
THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE TASKED FOR THIS AFTERNOON.
ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, MODIFYING THE RECOMMENDED
ORDER OR REJECTING THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
I WILL SAY THAT THERE WERE SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE FILED
BY THE PETITIONER REGARDING THIS MATTER.
CODE SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTIONS J-1-D iii ADDRESSES THE
EXCEPTIONS.
EXCEPTIONS BE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND
CONTAINED IN THE RECOMMENDED ORDERS.
EXCEPTIONS MUST IDENTIFY THE DISPUTED PORTION OF THE
RECOMMENDED ORDER.
AND IF THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS BASED ON TESTIMONY PRESENTED AT THE
HEARING, THEN THE PERSON FILING THE EXCEPTION MUST PROVIDE A
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCEEDING OR A VIDEO RECORDING OF IT.
THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST MADE FOR ORAL ARGUMENT REGARDING
THIS MATTER.
AND, AGAIN, THE ORAL ARGUMENT PORTION OF THE CODE, IS ALSO
-- IT IS IN YOUR PACKET THAT I GAVE YOU ABOUT ORAL ARGUMENT
THAT ALSO GIVES -- IF YOU CHOOSE TO GIVE ORAL ARGUMENT, IT
IS ON PAGE TWO AND PAGE THREE OF THE HANDOUT.
BUT HERE IS THE INFORMATION REGARDING ORAL ARGUMENTS.
CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBJECTION J-1-E ii.
CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN THE MEETING FOR ORAL ARGUMENT IF
CITY COUNCIL FINDS THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT ADDRESS A
MATTER INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD.
OR THE RECORD -- THE RECOMMENDED ORDER CONTAINS AN
AMBIGUITY.
IF CITY COUNCIL ALLOWS ORAL ARGUMENT, YOU MAY LIMIT SUCH
ORAL ARGUMENT TO ADDRESSING ONLY THOSE MATTERS FOR WHICH IT
OPENS FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
SO YOU CAN -- IF YOU DECIDE TO OPEN FOR ORAL ARGUMENT, YOU
CAN LIMIT WHAT THE ORAL ARGUMENT IS ABOUT.
MR. SHELBY SHALL REVIEW -- THIS IS ONE TIME THAT CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY IS OUTLINED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE.
MR. SHELBY SHALL REVIEW THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT AND
MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON WHETHER OR NOT THE
REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT MEETS THE CRITERIA.
BUT I JUST WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE THE PUPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING
IS JUST TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
THIS IS NOT A REVIEW HEARING PART II.
AND NOT A DE NOVO HEARING.
THIS JUST TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. SHELBY.
02:00:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
02:00:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND
MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
AS MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE SAID, I HAVE THE HONOR OF
HAVING THIS PROVISION IN THE CODE.
AND I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE EXCEPTIONS OF
THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, AND THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO SO I CAN ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE IT IN
FRONT OF YOU IS TO DISTRIBUTE IT AGAIN THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE
RECOMMENDED ORDER THAT HAVE BEEN FILED BY COUNSEL FOR THE
APPLICANT OR THE PETITIONER.
AND ALSO, THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A FULL SET OF ITEMS TO
BE ABLE TO REFER TO.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE RECOMMENDED ORDER ITSELF, WHICH IS
ATTACHED -- WHICH WAS ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION SETTING
THIS HEARING FROM THE OUTSET.
SO YOUR COMMENTS RELATING TO THIS DECISION HAVE TO REFER
SPECIFICALLY TO THAT RECOMMENDED ORDER.
AGAIN,THIS IS NOT A DE NOVO HEARING AND NOT A REVIEW HEARING
AND IS BASED SOLELY ON THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
AND THEN WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE EXCEPTIONS TO
THAT.
AND YOU HAVE THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
COUNCIL, AFTER REVIEWING THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT,
I CAN NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS REQUEST FOR ORAL
ARGUMENT MEETS THE CRITERIA.
BUT THE DISCUSSION DOESN'T END WITH THAT DETERMINATION.
IT IS STILL COUNCIL -- AND I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT
COUNCIL'S ROLE IS IN THIS CASE.
YOU MAY ONLY -- AND THIS CODE IS VERY STRICT.
YOUR SUBJECT AND YOUR TASK HERE UNLIKE A DE NOVO REVIEW
HEARING IS VERY LIMITED, AND COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE
WITH THIS.
LET ME JUST STATE, AGAIN, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, CITY
COUNCIL MAY ONLY ALLOW PUBLIC DISCUSSION UPON A REQUEST FOR
ORAL ARGUMENT FILED BY A PARENT OR IMPORTANT ITS OWN MOTION.
CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN THE MEETING FOR ORAL ARGUMENT --
LET ME REPEAT THAT, CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN THE MEETING
FOR ORAL ARGUMENT IF THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS REFERRING NOW TO
THE RECOMMENDED ORDER THAT THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT
ADDRESS A MATTER INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD OR THE
RECOMMENDED ORDER CONTAINS AN AMBIGUITY.
AND, AGAIN, THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE A FINDING OF CITY COUNCIL
BEFORE YOU WOULD ALLOW ORAL ARGUMENT UPON MOTION.
IF CITY COUNCIL ALLOWS ORAL ARGUMENT, CITY COUNCIL MAY LIMIT
SUCH ORAL ARGUMENT ADDRESSING ONLY THOSE MATTERS OF WHICH
THEY OPENED ORAL ARGUMENT.
NOW HAVING DONE THIS, I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT IN THE EVENT
THE CITY COUNCIL -- AND AGAIN, I AM READING DIRECTLY FROM THE
CODE, SUBSECTION 3.
IN THE EVENT CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE REQUEST FOR ORAL
ARGUMENT, THE CONTENT OF THE TESTIMONY SHALL BE THE SAME AS
THE CONTENT OF TESTIMONY SUBMITTED VERBALLY OR IN WRITING TO
THE HEARING OFFICER.
COUNCIL PERMITS ORAL ARGUMENT.
ALLOW STAFF AND EACH PARTY UP TO TEN MINUTES FOR ORAL
PRESENTATION OR ARGUMENT.
NONPARTY PARTICIPANTS MAY BE PERMITTED ORAL ARGUMENT --
PRESENTATION OR ORAL ARGUMENT UP TO THREE MINUTES.
NO PERSON MUST SUBMIT NEW TESTIMONY TO CITY COUNCIL DURING
ORAL ARGUMENT.
AND ALL PERSONS MUST CONFINE THEIR PRESENTATIONS TO EVIDENCE
MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
AND, AGAIN, YOU HEARD FROM THE -- THE ASSISTANT CITY
ATTORNEY AND, AGAIN, DEPENDS ON WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS,
WE WILL GO THROUGH WHAT IT TAKES TO GET TO A FINAL ORDER
IN THIS CASE.
02:04:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LOOKS TO ME WE SHOULD TAKE ABOUT 15
MINUTES TO READ THE FINDINGS OF FACT.
02:04:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES?
02:05:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM GOING TO SUGGEST 15.
COUNCIL WILL ADDRESS THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND THESE
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW, AND THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RECOMMENDATION
FILED BY THE PETITIONERS SO THAT WE CAN ASSESS THIS CASE.
02:05:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CERTAINLY IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
02:05:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE.
02:05:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
STAY HERE AND STAY IN SESSION.
02:05:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAY IN SESSION.
SO PEOPLE KNOW WE WILL SIT UP FOR 15 MINUTES AND READ.
02:05:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
02:05:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU JUST SIGNAL THAT YOU ARE DONE AND
COMFORTABLE TO PROCEED.
AND IF I GET EVERYBODY'S HAND -- JUST PUT ON YOUR LIGHTS AND
I WILL KNOW.
02:05:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY.
WE HAVE READ THE HEARING OFFICER'S CONCLUSION OF LAW AND
CONCLUSION OF FACTS, AND WE READ THE PETITIONER'S OBJECTIONS
TO THE FINDING OF FACTS, EXCEPTIONS OF THE RECOMMENDED ORDER. 02:16:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WERE FINISHED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
YES.
02:16:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMEMBER THAT RULE OF INTERRUPTING ME.
02:16:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE EVERY CERTAINTY DO THIS BEFORE YOU
INTO A DISCUSSION OR COUNCIL DETERMINATION.
CRITERIA FROM THE CITY COUNCIL IS YOU CAN ONLY OPEN FOR
ORAL ARGUMENT IF THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS THAT THE HEARING
OFFICER DID NOT INTRODUCE A MATTER INTO THE RECORD AND IF IT
CONTAINS AN AMBIGUITY.
IF YOU ALLOW ORAL ARGUMENT, YOU MAY ONLY LIMIT IT TO ONLY TO THE
MATTERS OF WHICH YOU OPENED IT.
LET ME ALSO READ CRITERIA FOR FINAL ORDER BECAUSE I THINK IT IS
RELEVANT IN YOUR CASE.
I WILL READ EXCERPTS UNDER THE SECTION OF "FINAL ORDER."
AND MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE DID REFERENCE THIS IN HER
PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL AS TO THE BACKGROUND.
CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT REJECT OR MODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT
REACHED BY THE HEARING OFFICER.
IF CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT A FINDING OF FACT IS NOT
BASED UPON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE
RECORD OR IF THERE IS A FINDING OF FACT, YOU NOT COMPLY WITH
ESSENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OF LAW, MEANING WAS THE PROPER LAW
APPLIED CORRECTLY, THEN CITY COUNCIL MAY IN THAT CASE REMAND
THE MATTER BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER, BUT ONLY IF IT
DETERMINES THAT ADDITIONAL FACT FINDING IS REQUIRED.
IF YOU REJECTS THE CONCLUSION OF LAW, THEN YOUR TASK AND
PARAPHRASING AGAIN READING WITH PARTICULARITY ITS READINGS
AND MUST MAKE A FINDING THAT YOUR SUBSTITUTION OF A
CONCLUSION OF LAW IS AS OR MORE REASONABLE THAN THAT IS
REJECTED OR MODIFIED.
THAT WILL BE THE CASE AND THE CONTEXT UPON WHICH YOU MAKE
YOUR DECISION.
I TURN IT BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:18:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BASED ON WHAT CITY AND COUNCIL'S ATTORNEYS
HAVE STATED AND OUR ROLE HERE, SEEMS AS THOUGH THE THRESHOLD
IS QUITE HIGH AS FAR AS REVIEWING THIS CASE AND THE STATEMENTS.
DID ANYBODY IN THEIR REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENTS FIND THAT THE
HEARING OFFICER -- TITLE IS HEARING OFFICER.
02:19:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COULD YOU ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN?
02:19:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID ANYBODY -- I AM JUST DETERMINING IF
HEARING OFFICER WAS HIS TITLE.
HEARING OFFICER -- I WILL USE THAT.
DID ANYBODY HERE WHEN THEY WERE READING THROUGH THE
DOCUMENTS, DID ANYBODY FIND THAT THE HEARING OFFICER'S
STATEMENTS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW WERE FLAWED OR DID
ANYBODY FIND THAT EXCEPTION FILED BY THE PETITIONER WERE
VALID TO JUSTIFY OPENING THIS CASE WITH ORAL ARGUMENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:19:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO DETAIL ON ANY DOCUMENTATION OR DISCUSSION
ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE CHANGE OF THE ZONING WHEN THE NEW --
WHEN THE NEW ZONING -- 1984, WHEN THE NEW CODE WENT THROUGH.
THEY WERE UNDER R-4, WHICH INCLUDED BOTH USES AND THEN -- WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OR WHY THEY WEREN'T GRANDFATHERED
IN OR WHETHER THEY REQUESTED TO MAINTAIN OR IF THEY --
IF THEY REQUESTED A DIFFERENT ONE, BUT SOMEHOW THEY WERE
CHANGED TO THIS OTHER ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
02:20:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU GO BACK TO THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND
LOOK AT WHAT THE HEARING OFFICER FOUND BASED ON THE
TESTIMONY THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE USE OR NOT CONTINUOUS USE
OF THAT PROPERTY.
AS I READ IT, HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE -- HIS INTERPRETATION
OF HOW THEY WERE USING IT.
BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THEY REQUESTED
TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN THE EXISTING USE IN 1984.
THAT INFORMATION IS NOT IN THE RECORD.
SO THAT WOULD -- YOU ASKED IF ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE US
TO OPEN IT, THAT MAY BE A REASON TO OPEN IT.
02:21:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T -- IN MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK
THAT REDUCED THAT THRESHOLD, BUT --
02:21:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
YOU ARE SAYING THAT THERE IS A -- SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT
SEE AS A RELEVANT FACT THAT YOU DO NOT SEE IN THE ORDER THAT
YOU THINK MIGHT BE RELEVANT TO A DECISION?
02:21:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE R-4 DESIGNATION INCLUDED BOTH USES,
AND THE NEW DESIGNATION DID NOT.
IN 1984, IS IT IS SILENT AS TO WHETHER THEY -- THEY TRIED TO
CHANGE THE -- TO BE GRANDFATHERED INTO THE OLD ZONING AT
THAT TIME AND ONLY TALKS OF THE DE NOVO HEARING IN 2024.
02:21:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM SORRY I --
02:21:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK -- IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT
NUMBER 7 ON THE HEARING OFFICER'S FINDINGS OF FACT.
AND CONTINUING WITH THE CURRENT CODE BEYOND THAT --
CONTINUE WITH WHAT THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS, I THINK IT
ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN.
02:22:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT JUST -- AS I -- AND I AM NOT TRYING TO
ARGUE THE POINT, I AM BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE YOU ASKED, IT
DOESN'T GIVE ANY DETAILS ABOUT -- ABOUT WHETHER THEY --
WHETHER THEY ASKED TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN OR DENIED OR WHAT
HAPPENED.
IT MERELY STATES THAT IT CHANGED.
02:22:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM HEARING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I
DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS RELEVANT --
02:22:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE THING IS, IF HE CAN.
I WANTED TO SAY THAT COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN PUBLIC DISCUSSION
OF REQUEST OF ORAL ARGUMENT FILED OR BY A PARTY -- BY PARTY
OR UPON ITS OWN MOTION.
SO IF YOU -- IF YOU THINK -- IF THERE IS SOMETHING -- IF, IN
IS EITHER AN AMBIGUITY OR SOMETHING THAT IS MISSING FROM
FACT, THAT YOU MAY NEED TO ASCERTAIN TO MAKE A DECISION -- I
AM NOT TAKING A POSITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
IF YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED ORAL ARGUMENT, THEN A MOTION
WOULD BE IN ORDER.
OTHERWISE, NOT.
02:23:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT ALSO -- CAN I MAKE ONE OTHER POINT?
02:23:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, SIR.
02:23:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT ALSO SHOWS CLEARLY WHAT -- BY THE WAY,
FOR DISCLOSURE, I BEEN TO THIS PLACE -- NOT IN A FEW YEARS,
BUT I HAVE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES.
IT -- IT SAYS CLEARLY WHAT THE PRIMARY USE WAS.
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A SITE PLAN OR A MAP OR PHOTOS TO SHOW
WHETHER PART OF IT HAS BEEN USED AS AN OFFICE.
MERELY SAYS THAT THE PRIMARY USE WAS --
02:23:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THAT THE CRUX OF --
02:23:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY, COUNCIL, THAT -- AND YOU MAY NOT
HAVE RECOGNIZE IT OR MAY OVERLOOKED IT, BUT THAT HAS BEEN
AVAILABLE IN ACELA.
IF COUNCIL NEEDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW DOCUMENTS THAT
YOU THINK YOU DON'T HAVE, WELL, THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE WE CAN
ADDRESS.
BUT IF YOU FEEL THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED IN ORAL ARGUMENT IN
ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, YOU CAN DO THAT.
I WILL REMIND YOU THAT EVEN AFTER ORAL ARGUMENT, AND, OF
COURSE, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS, THERE WILL BE ADDRESSED IF YOU
GRANT THAT ORAL ARGUMENT FOR THE PETITIONER'S ATTORNEY AND,
OF COURSE, THE CITY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
THAT AND PERHAPS REBUT THAT.
BUT EVEN AFTER ALL THAT FINDING, COUNCIL, ULTIMATELY, PLEASE
REMEMBER THAT YOU CAN NOT MODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT AND
YOU HAVE TO REMAND THAT IF THAT IS THE CASE FOR ADDITIONAL
FACT FINDING.
AND IF IT IS AN ISSUE OF -- IF IT IS AN ISSUE OF LAW, THEN
YOUR TASK IS TO MAKE A FINDING THAT -- A SUBSTITUTION OF A
CONCLUSION OF LAW IS MORE -- AS OR MORE REASONABLE THAN
THAT WAS REJECTED.
THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO DO IF YOU WERE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER
THAN AFFIRM THIS ORDER IN ORDER TO BRING BACK AN ORDER THAT
ACTUALLY REFLECTS WHAT COUNCIL'S DECISION IS.
EVEN AFTER YOU OPEN ORAL ARGUMENT, YOU HAVE THAT DUTY AND
BURDEN THAT THE CITY CODE GIVES YOU.
BUT IF IT IS A QUESTION, COUNCIL, ONLY THING I CAN ADVISE
YOU IS -- IF YOU FEEL IT WARRANTS A MOTION AND A SECOND AND
A VOTE, IT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER YOU HAVE ORAL ARGUMENT OR
NOT.
OR IF THERE IS NO DESIRE FOR A MOTION OR NO SECOND, THEN THE
MATTER IS MOOT.
02:25:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION ON THIS?
02:25:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, MY RECOMMENDATION -- MY
RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD THEN, YOU MAKE
THE DETERMINATION THAT YOU WILL MAKE A DECISION.
02:25:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
UPHOLD THE DECISION OF THE HEARING
OFFICER.
02:25:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AS PART OF THE MOTION, REJECT THE NEED FOR
ORAL ARGUMENT, IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
02:25:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
02:25:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MEAN, IF YOU THINK THAT YOU JUST WANT TO GO
AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO --
02:25:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER THING IS WE CAN REMAND IT BACK AND
ASK THESE QUESTIONS, RIGHT?
OR ASK THEM TO CLARIFY?
02:26:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO FACT -- WITH REGARD TO THE
FACT AS TO -- YOU WILL HAVE YOU TO PROBABLY DO IT WITH --
ARTICULATE THE SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING
TO FORMULATE WITH REGARD TO THE PREVIOUS CODE AND IT IS A
QUESTION -- IT IS A QUESTION OF USE.
MY RECOMMENDATION -- I CAN'T -- I WOULD RECOMMEND THATM
ULTIMATELYM WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO, IF IT IS REMANDED, IT
HAS TO BE DONE WITH PARTICULARITY.
THAT IS THE WORD.
02:26:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY SAY THEY LITERALLY CAME TO FIND A FORMER
DECISION TO SEEK THE DETERMINATION REGARDING THE
NONCONFORMING USE OF OFFICE FOR THE SITE.
WHAT THAT IS TO ME THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ONE.
SO, TO ME, THAT IS A FINDING OF FACT.
IF THEY DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE THAT GRANDFATHER -- IF THEY HAD
GONE FOR THE GRAND FATHER.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE NEED.
02:27:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BRINGS BACK INTO FOCUS OUR STATED TASK
HERE WAS TO, ONE, ACCEPT WHAT THE HEARING OFFICER HAS FOUND
IN FACT AND LAW.
AND TWO, TO FOCUS ON THE EXCEPTIONS THAT THE PETITIONER
PROVIDED TO THAT.
AND SO WE -- SO T THOSE FACTS ARE THERE.
USAGE -- THE USAGE OF THE BUILDING WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE
HEARING OFFICER.
YOU JUST HAVE TO COMPARE THE EXCEPTIONS.
SOME IF YOU WERE -- IF YOU WERE CONCERN FALLS WITHIN THE
PARAMETER OF AN EXCEPTION, THEN I THINK IT IS WORTHY TO BE
HEARD.
IF IT DOESN'T, IT DOES NOT, IS THAT CORRECT?
02:27:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WOULD PHRASE IT THIS WAY.
IF YOU FEEL THAT THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT INCLUDE
SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS NECESSARY AS A FINDING OF FACT,
YOU -- THAT IS A BASIS FOR OPENING IT UP FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
AND GIVE THE PARTIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY
-- AND YOU CAN LIMIT THAT.
AGAIN, NO ADDITIONAL NEW EVIDENCE CAN BE TAKEN.
IT HAS TO BE BASED ON EVIDENCE THAT IS IN THE RECORD ON
EITHER SIDE.
IF THEY GO BEYOND THAT SCOPE, YOU CAN OBJECT TO WHAT IS GOING
TO BE SWORN TESTIMONY, BECAUSE THEY CAN GIVE YOU SWORN
TESTIMONY AS TO WHAT WE IS ALREADY IN THE RECORD AND WAS
PRESENTED TO THE HEARING OFFICER DURING AND IN ADVANCE OF
THE HEARING AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT WHEN HE PREPARED THIS
ORDER.
02:28:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DENY ORAL
ARGUMENTS.
SEE IF THAT GOES.
02:28:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOTION.
02:28:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SECOND THAT.
02:28:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO
AND SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO DENY ORAL
ARGUMENTS.
ROLL CALL PLEASE.
02:28:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
02:28:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
02:29:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
02:29:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:29:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
02:29:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
02:29:05PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:29:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION OR ARE WE DONE?
02:29:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A DECISION IS THE DECISION.
02:29:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOW THE PETITION TIME.
02:29:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE PROVIDED
TO YOU AND BASED ON THE RECORD AND THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
02:29:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE GET A MOTION TO AFFIRM DECISION OF
THE HEARING OFFICER?
02:29:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN STILL DENY IT.
YOU ARE ASKING FOR ONE TO AFFIRM IT.
BASED ON THE LAW AND THE REVIEW AND WHAT IS IN THESE
DOCUMENTS, I RECOMMEND THAT THE PETITION FOR REVIEW BE
DENIED, AND THE DECISION ZONING ADMINISTRATOR BE AFFIRMED.
02:30:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL SECOND THAT.
TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
02:30:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
02:30:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
02:30:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
02:30:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:30:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
02:30:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
02:30:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
02:30:27PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
02:30:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOW, COUNCIL, IF I CAN.
I BELIEVE WE MAY NEED TO FOLLOW THIS UP -- WHEN IS THE
PROCESS FOR THE FINAL ORDER?
WHAT IS THE PROCESS FROM THAT THIS POINT ON?
OR SOMETHING THAT WILL BE HANDLED FROM THIS POINT ON?
02:30:50PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I AM JUST READING AGAIN FROM THE CODE, 27-61.
IF CITY COUNCIL DIRECTS STAFF TO PREPARE A REVISED ORDER,
THE REVISED ORDER SHALL BE TRANSMITTED TO THE PARTIES AND
NONPARTY PARTICIPANTS.
SO THERE HAVEN'T BEEN A CHANGE, UNLESS CITY COUNCIL IS
DIRECTING --
02:31:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED BY CITY
COUNCIL AFTER THIS.
02:31:17PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
NO.
02:31:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE APPLICANT HAS THE FINAL ORDER BY CITY
COUNCIL SHALL BE DEEMED FINAL AND MAY BE REPEALED TO A COURT
OF JURISDICTION FOR APPLICABLE WALL.
02:31:27PM >> FOR THE RECORD, JAN GRAHAM.
I OBJECT ON THE GROUNDS OF DUE PROCESS.
I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL.
WE BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS AN ADEQUATE NOTICE FOR YOU GIVEN
ON THE AGENDA.
WE TIMELY FILED THIS.
IT WAS NOT IN YOUR AGENDA MATERIALS.
YOU WERE FORCED TO READ IT RIGHT NOW IN A VERY KIND OF QUICK
WAY.
THIS IS A DETAILED ISSUE THAT NEEDS TIME TO REALLY DIGEST.
AND SO ON THOSE GROUNDS, WHEN WE DO OBJECT.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:31:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OBJECTION IS NOTED.
THANK YOU.
02:32:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:32:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
02:32:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:32:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS -- NEW BUSINESS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
02:32:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY HAS ASKED US TO PUT
THEIR CEO GREG SLATER ON THE AGENDA FOR 15 MINUTES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THE TAMPA BAY
HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY'S GREG SLATER TO GIVE A
15-MINUTE -- LET'S SAY TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE
SOUTH SELMON CAPACITY PROJECT ON THE DECEMBER 18 COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING OVER CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND
PRESENTATIONS.
02:32:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
18th.
A CHRISTMAS PRESENT.
IS THAT IS IT?
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:33:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
A COUPLE OF QUICK MOTIONS, IF I MAY.
MOTION ON MOBILITY TO GET BACK ON STAFF IMPROVEMENTS ON
COMMERCIAL PARK NEAR LIBERTY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND TO REPORT
BACK TO NOVEMBER 6 REGULAR SESSION WITH A WRITTEN REPORT.
LONG STORY SHORT, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT WITH A STUDENT WHO
WAS HIT OVER AT LIBERTY MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I VISITED WITH JESSICA VAUGHN AND OTHERS, JUST TO GET A
WRITTEN REPORT, IF I MAY.
02:33:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
02:33:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THE DISABILITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM IN THE FIRST
REGULAR SESSION IN APRIL WITH WORLD AUTISM MONTH, AND I WON'T
WILL NOT BE HERE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS THING GOES
ON FOREVER.
SO IT WILL BE OBVIOUSLY APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.
02:33:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:34:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOTION FOR PARKS AND RECREATION TO REPORT ON
A ROLL-OUT PLAN FOR INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT OF PARKS
OUTSIDE OF THE CRA, SOUTH TAMPA, AS WELL AS THE NORTH TAMPA
AREA.
I UNDERSTAND WE ARE LIMITED ON FUNDS OUTSIDE OF THE CRA SO I
INTEND TO MAKE THE SAME MOTION OF CRA IF IT IS STANDARD
PRACTICE FOR INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AS PART OF THE
IMPROVEMENT IN NEW PARKS.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE AN IN-PERSON REPORT ON
NOVEMBER 20.
02:34:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:34:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS.
EVERY CHILD THAT SHOWS UP IN A PLAYGROUND SHOULD
PARTICIPATE.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT.
02:34:47PM >>COUNCILMAN VIERA:
LASTLY, A LONG TIME COMING GOING BACK TO
JOE CATANO.
02:34:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JET BLACK DYED HAIR.
02:34:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH, HE IS A FUNNY GUY.
I MOTION FOR TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REPORT ON THE
POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A NEW TAMPA SUBSTATION IN AN
EXISTING STRIP MALL OR BUILDING WHERE THERE MAY BE CURRENT
AVAILABILITY AND THIS WILL BE AN IN-PERSON REPORT ON
NOVEMBER 6.
LONG STORY SHORT, YOU KNOW, WE -- IN NEW TAMPA NEAR A
SUBSTATION IS IN DISTRICT TWO, WHICH IS OVER OFF OF STATION
13.
AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING -- I WAS TALKING TO CHIEF BERCAW AND
BROUGHT IT UP AND HE SEEMED TO BE RECEPTIVE.
MAYBE NOT A FULL SUBSTATION, I SEE A LOT OF TIME THERE ARE
THESE STRIP MALL WHERE IS YOU RENT SOMETHING.
SOMETIMES THE OWNERS GIVE IT TO YOU.
SO THAT THERE CAN BE A POLICE -- A FORMER SUBSTATION ESQUE
PRESENCE IN NEW TAMPA.
SO THAT WILL BE MY MOTION.
02:35:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:35:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
WHERE IS IT YOU SUGGEST?
02:35:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYWHERE IN NEW TAMPA.
02:36:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS QUITE BROAD.
02:36:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT REALLY, BECAUSE NOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL
SPACE THERE.
HE IS TALKING OF COMMERCIAL.
ONLY ONE OR TWO CORRIDORS OF SPACE.
02:36:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT IT IS LONG.
02:36:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE --
02:36:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS IT, HUNTER'S GREEN IS A HOT BED OF
ACTIVITY.
02:36:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THERE YOU GO.
02:36:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
02:36:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DID WANT TO COMMENT.
WE SAW A REPORT ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE AND
WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE.
I AM IN TALK WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I CALLED A FEW YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS BRIEFED ON IT THIS
MORNING AS WELL.
AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
AND I AM SETTING TIME ASIDE TOMORROW.
9 A.M., AND I THINK 1 P.M., BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T MEET
WITH THEM COLLECTIVELY BECAUSE OF ISSUES TO SPEAK WITH
EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY.
I DO THINK IT IS PROPER TO MAKE A MOTION LATER ON FOR
COMMENDATIONS, AND WE WILL DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
I THINK IT IS TERRIBLE WHAT HAS HAPPENED OBVIOUSLY.
VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
IT IS OUTSIDE OF CITY STAFF'S CONTROL.
AND I THINK THAT ANYBODY THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY LEGAL
DEPARTMENT, WE CAN ASK MR. SHELBY FOR HIS OPINION ON IT AS
WELL.
THERE IS -- THERE IS NOTHING -- IT IS ALL FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
AND SO I THINK IT IS TERRIBLE.
I MEAN I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH BLATANT APPEALS TO RACIAL
GRIEVANCE AND DIVISION COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
THROUGH THINGS LIKE THIS.
AND IT BREAKS MY HEART.
AND IT BREAKS MY HEART FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO DESERVE
BETTER AND FOR TAMPA WHO DESERVES BETTER AND FLORIDA AND THE
UNITED STATES YOU HAVE AMERICA DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS.
YEAH, JUST MY THOUGHTS.
THANK YOU.
02:37:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU GET UNANIMOUS CONSENT ON THAT.
IS THAT IS IT?
02:37:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, THANK YOU.
02:37:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:37:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER MONEY AND FOR PARADES.
SO WHAT I THINK I WOULD SIMPLY DO IS JUST ASK THE
ADMINISTRATION TO COME TO US ON NOVEMBER 6 WITH THEIR PLAN
FOR BARRICADES AND PARADES SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIND
OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY PLAN TO USE STORMWATER EMPLOYEES.
MY MOTION IS TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COME ON NOVEMBER 6.
AND ACTUALLY A WRITTEN REPORT IS PROBABLY FINE.
SO IF THAT IS THE CASE ACTUALLY, THEN I WANT TO DO THAT ON
NOVEMBER 23.
A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT ON HOW THE ADMINISTRATION PLANS TO
PROVIDE BARRICADES FOR PARADES AND IF STORMWATER STAFF WILL
BE USED FOR SUCH.
02:38:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
02:38:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HOW FAR AWAY IS THAT?
HOW MANY WEEKS?
02:38:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TWO MONTHS.
02:38:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A FULL MONTH.
02:38:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A FULL MONTH.
02:39:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
23rd OF OCTOBER.
02:39:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU SAID NOVEMBER.
02:39:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SAID NOVEMBER, AND I WENT BACK.
WRITTEN REPORT FOR, OCTOBER 23.
ONLY WANTING TO GET IT DONE EARLIER IS THE SEASON REALLY
STARTS IN NOVEMBER.
SO IF STAFF NEEDS MORE TIME TO NOVEMBER 6, I AM OPEN
TO THAT.
BUT, AGAIN, A WRITTEN REPORT, NOT A ORAL ONE.
02:39:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TO OCTOBER 23 THEN?
02:39:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE ROOM BECAUSE IT IS WRITTEN.
OPINION.
02:39:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GET YOUR POINT, BUT ARE WE DABBLING
WHERE WE SHOULDN'T BE DABBLING?
02:39:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM SAYING JUST TO ASK.
A WRITTEN REPORT OF FACTS.
02:39:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT QUESTIONING.
02:39:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT A QUESTION, BUT REPORT OF FACT.
YOU ARE RIGHT, WE CAN'T.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK.
I WANT THE INFORMATION SO WE CAN ACCURATELY PROVIDE
INFORMATION.
02:39:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST ASKED.
IT DOESN'T -- WE CAN'T ORDER THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET
MANAGEMENT TO DO SOMETHING, BUT WE CAN ASK.
THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP.
02:40:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
BIG YAWN.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYE HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:40:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE POINT OF PRIVILEGE.
YESTERDAY WAS MY HUSBAND'S BIRTHDAY.
02:40:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.
02:40:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, MY GOSH.
HE WILL LOVE YOU FOR THAT.
02:40:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MARRIED A MUCH YOUNGER MAN.
02:40:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MUCH LONGER.
02:40:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:40:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE NOTHING.
02:40:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE MY FAVORITE COUNCILMAN TODAY.
02:40:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
REMEMBER THAT SONG "I HAVE NOTHING."
SAD THINGS, ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION,
AN ENERGY REPRESENTED.
MARGARET VIZZI PASSED AWAY WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10.
VISITATION IS ONDAY 22nd OF THIS MONTH AT 9 A.M. AT CHRIST THE
KING CHURCH FOLLOWED BY A MASS AT 10 A.M..
SHE WAS A WONDERFUL WOMAN.
VERY LOW KEY.
WHEN SHE LOOKED AT YOU, HER EYES ARE SAYING I AM TELLING YOU
WHAT I WANT.
SHE WAS GOOD AT DOING WHAT SHE DID.
I WANT TO HONOR HER AND A FINE PERSON AND A GREAT
ORGANIZATION STARTED THROUGH THAT YOU ORGANIZATION MANY WITH
SOUTH TAMPA PEOPLE.
02:41:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I GOT INVOLVED WITH T.H.A.N., MARGARET
VIZZI, STEVE LABORE.
SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM THE ORIGINAL FAN GROUP, BUT
NOW WE HAVE A NEW GENERATION TAKING IT ON.
MRS. VIZZI, MARTY WILL TELL YOU.
SHE IS A BIG DEAL.
02:41:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHE WAS PROBABLY THE MOST POWERFUL
NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER I HAVE SEEN IN MY CAREER.
02:41:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DID IT WITH A KINDNESS.
WHEN YOU LEFT, YOU KNEW WHAT SHE WANTED WOULDN'T HER TELLING
YOU.
02:41:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STEPHANIE POYNOR.
STEPHANIE, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
02:41:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DIDN'T SAY THAT AT ALL.
I AM THE SAME WAY SHE WAS.
GET MAD.
02:42:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EVEN IF SHE WASN'T IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
WOULD CALL HER TO MAKE THINGS WERE ON HER SIDE.
02:42:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO INTERNET, NO NOTHING.
AND THEY MADE AN EFFORT TO DO WHAT THEY HAD TO DO.
SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CHUCK GARDEN --
HEAD OF TAMPA BAY WATER TO MAKE A PRESENTATION BEFORE
COUNCIL, IF POSSIBLE, DECEMBER 18 PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF
MAJOR INITIATIVE THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON.
02:42:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY, CAN YOU LIMIT IT TO TEN MINUTES
PLEASE.
02:42:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PARDON.
02:42:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LIMIT IT TO TEN MINUTES.
02:42:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOW WE HAVE THREE.
02:42:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
02:42:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SOMEBODY FROM PARKS DEPARTMENT.
A CHANGE IN THE LEADERSHIP THERE.
AND MADE ARRANGEMENT WITH INDIVIDUALS OF PARK AND THE
PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
IF THEM COME UP SOME TIME -- GIVE ME A DATE TO TALK ABOUT
HENRY OLA AND THE UPDATE AND CHANGES AT THE PARK.
02:43:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TO BE DETERMINED.
02:43:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO BE DETERMINED.
02:43:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GIVE ME ANY DATE YOU WANT.
02:43:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PICK A DATE.
WE HAVE OUR DATE SPECIALIST, OUR CHAIR PRO TEM.
KEEPER OF DATES.
02:43:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ENOUGH TIME FOR NOTICE FOR THEM.
02:43:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOVEMBER 6.
02:43:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOVEMBER 6 OF FINE ORDINANCE MANISCALCO I
WILL SECOND THAT.
02:43:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PARKS, NOVEMBER 6.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
02:43:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO
MARTHA VILA BECAUSE HER SISTER PASSED AT 88.
WE KNOW SHE LOVES CITY COUNCIL AND WITH THE VILA BROTHERS.
02:43:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MARTHA, IF YOU WERE LISTENING, WE ARE
THINKING ABOUT YOU.
02:43:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
02:43:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
02:43:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EXCUSE ME, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, MR.
CHAIRMAN?
02:43:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DO NOT.
02:43:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE --
TO THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN PASSED ON SECOND READING
REGARDING THE CHARTER REVIEW.
IT TURNS OUT THAT ON OCTOBER 8, WHAT IS COMING TO COUNCIL IS
ONLY A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT AND READS AS FOLLOWS,
ADMINISTRATION TO SUBMIT THEIR LIST OF RECOMMENDED CHANGES
OF THE CHARTER.
AND I WOULD PERHAPS SUGGESTS WE WOULD ADD ANOTHER WRITTEN
STAFF REPORT, PERHAPS BY ME, TO TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS WITH
REGARD TO WHAT KIND OF STEPS COUNCIL WILL NEED TO TAKE TO
GET THIS UP AND RUNNING THROUGH A RESOLUTION.
02:44:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:44:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OCTOBER 23, WE HAVE A SCHEDULED DISCUSSION
REGARDING THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND SCOPE OF THE CHARTS
REVIEW COMMISSION.
WE DID SET UP THE WRITTEN REPORT ON THE 9th SO WE COULD TALK
ABOUT IT ON THE 23rd.
AND I THINK THAT WILL BE THE PERFECT PLACE FOR NEXT STEPS.
02:45:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS WONDERFUL.
02:45:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT BE BUSINESS IS DONE.
WE ANTICIPATED IT AND FIX IT --
02:45:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST DIDN'T REMEMBER.
02:45:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU FOR PUT ME ON THE SAME PAGE AS
CITY COUNCIL.
02:45:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF WE -- IF WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR CALENDAR
KEEPER, WITH WOULD WE BE.
02:45:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
KEEPER OF THE DATES AND CALENDARS.
02:45:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE CLENDENIN
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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