TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:01:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: -- TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:01:23AM LET'S SEE.
9:01:24AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
9:01:27AM MR. MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE THE
9:01:30AM INVOCATION.
9:01:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:01:33AM TODAY, OUR GUEST FOR THE INVOCATION IS A SENIOR POLICY
9:01:39AM ADVISOR WITH HOLLAND AND KNIGHT'S PUBLIC POLICY AND
9:01:41AM REGULATION PRACTICE GROUP AND IS THE CO-CHAIR OF THE FIRM'S
9:01:44AM FLORIDA GOVERNMENT ADVOCACY TEAM.
9:01:46AM BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, GOVERNOR MARTINEZ SERVED AS MAYOR OF
9:01:50AM TAMPA FROM 1979 TO 1986.
9:01:54AM THEN HE WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA AND SERVED FROM 1987
9:01:58AM TO 1991 AND WAS THEN APPOINTED UNDER PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W.
9:02:02AM BUSH FROM 1991 TO 1993 AS THE DRUG CZAR FOR THE UNITED
9:02:08AM STATES.
9:02:09AM IT'S MY HONOR AT THIS TIME TO WELCOME GOVERNOR MARTINEZ TO
9:02:12AM GIVE THE INVOCATION.
9:02:13AM PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF
9:02:15AM ALLEGIANCE.
9:02:18AM >> THANK YOU.
9:02:18AM LET US BOW OUR HEADS.
9:02:20AM ALMIGHTY GOD, AS WE BEGIN THE PROCESS OF DELIBERATING THE
9:02:26AM PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, LET'S BLESS THE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL
9:02:30AM WITH WISDOM, THAT THEY ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE IN AN INFORMATIVE
9:02:36AM WAY, THAT THERE IS NO HOSTILITY AS WE SERVE THE PEOPLE OF
9:02:39AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, THAT WE ACT IN A FASHION THAT ALL BENEFIT
9:02:44AM FROM YOUR ACTIONS, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE VULNERABLE AND
9:02:48AM NOT ABLE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
9:02:51AM THIS CITY HAS BEEN BLESSED WITH GREAT LEADERSHIP, INCLUDING
9:02:54AM THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THIS CITY COUNCIL.
9:02:57AM WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM WISDOM, THAT THEY
9:03:01AM CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THE VERY HONEST AND DELIBERATE WAY,
9:03:05AM THAT THEY PUT PEOPLE FIRST, NOT THEMSELVES AND AT THE END OF
9:03:11AM EACH DAY OF SERVICE, THAT THEY THANK GOD THAT THEY LIVE HERE
9:03:15AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:03:16AM AMEN.
9:03:18AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:03:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOVERNOR.
9:03:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOVERNOR, WOULD YOU PREFER GOVERNOR OR
9:03:38AM CZAR?
9:03:44AM >> WELL, MY WIFE STILL CALLS ME BOBBY.
9:03:46AM GET HER TO SAY BOB AFTER 70 YEARS, BUT I HAVE NOT SUCCEEDED.
9:03:56AM ANYWHERE FROM BOB, BOBBY -- DON'T CALL ME ROBERT.
9:04:00AM NOBODY CALLS ME THAT.
9:04:02AM I WON'T ANSWER IF YOU CALL ME ROBERT.
9:04:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU BACK IN OLD CITY
9:04:05AM HALL.
9:04:05AM >> THANK YOU.
9:04:06AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:04:06AM YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT SESSION.
9:04:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:04:08AM WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:04:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:04:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:04:16AM >> VIERA?
9:04:17AM CARLSON?
9:04:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:04:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:04:19AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A EQUAL QUORUM.
9:04:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA IS RUNNING SLIGHTLY
9:04:23AM BEHIND.
9:04:23AM HE SHOULD BE HERE ANY MOMENT.
9:04:25AM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
9:04:27AM MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR SESSION OF SEPTEMBER 4, 2025 AND
9:04:30AM THE EVENING SESSION HELD SEPTEMBER 11th, 2025.
9:04:33AM MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
9:04:36AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:04:37AM OPPOSED?
9:04:37AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
9:04:38AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:04:38AM LET'S GO THROUGH SOME HOUSEKEEPING ON THE AGENDA.
9:04:42AM I HAVE A WALK-ON, WHICH YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE A COPY IN FRONT
9:04:48AM OF YOU.
9:04:49AM I BELIEVE THEY DISTRIBUTED IT.
9:04:51AM I WOULD SUGGEST WE PLACE THAT AFTER CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS,
9:04:55AM ITEM NUMBER 47.
9:04:57AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
9:04:59AM MIRANDA.
9:05:00AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:05:01AM OPPOSED?
9:05:01AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:05:03AM ITEM NUMBER 69, A REQUEST TO MOVE THAT TO A TIME CERTAIN
9:05:07AM AFTER LUNCH AT 1:30.
9:05:09AM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:05:10AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO AND MR. SHELBY.
9:05:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT ITEM WAS THAT?
9:05:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM 69.
9:05:22AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:05:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, YOU ALSO HAVE THE
9:05:30AM HEARING AT 1:30.
9:05:33AM THIS WILL PRECEDE THE HEARING.
9:05:35AM THANK YOU.
9:05:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:05:37AM OPPOSED?
9:05:37AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
9:05:39AM THANK YOU.
9:05:39AM WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM ABBYE FEELEY TO CONTINUE ITEM 71 TO
9:05:45AM OCTOBER 23.
9:05:47AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:05:49AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:05:50AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:05:51AM OPPOSED?
9:05:51AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
9:05:53AM WRITTEN STAFF REPORT, DATE TO BE DETERMINED, ITEM 73.
9:06:00AM WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THAT TO A DATE TO BE
9:06:03AM DETERMINED.
9:06:05AM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:06:07AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:06:08AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:06:10AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
9:06:11AM REQUEST ON ITEM 77 TO MOVE IT TO NOVEMBER 20.
9:06:14AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:06:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:06:17AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:06:18AM OPPOSED?
9:06:19AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
9:06:20AM REQUEST TO MOVE ITEM 78 TO OCTOBER 9 FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:06:23AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
9:06:25AM MANISCALCO.
9:06:26AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
9:06:27AM OPPOSED?
9:06:27AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:06:30AM STAFF REPORTS, I BELIEVE NUMBER 70, BRANDON WILL BE HERE TO
9:06:35AM DO A PRESENTATION PER YOUR REQUEST.
9:06:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:06:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
9:06:39AM HOW ELSE ARE WE DOING ON STAFF REPORTS?
9:06:43AM ANYTHING ELSE?
9:06:51AM ANY OTHER NOTES?
9:06:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 66 AND 67.
9:06:58AM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED STAFF.
9:07:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GOOD WITHOUT THEM.
9:07:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 66 AND 67 WE DO NOT NEED STAFF.
9:07:07AM PUT THAT IN THE RECEIVE AND FILE BUSINESS.
9:07:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
9:07:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
9:07:14AM TAKE IT UP AFTER CONSENT.
9:07:16AM NO STAFF FOR 68.
9:07:22AM 70.
9:07:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 72.
9:07:28AM THIS IS OUR DISCUSSION, SO IT NEEDS TO STAY.
9:07:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 72.
9:07:34AM GOT IT.
9:07:34AM VERY GOOD.
9:07:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE --
9:07:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN'T YET.
9:07:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR THE WRITTEN?
9:07:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:07:49AM SECOND FROM --
9:07:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 74 THROUGH 76.
9:07:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 74 THROUGH 76, YES.
9:07:56AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEMS
9:08:00AM 74, 75, 76.
9:08:02AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:08:03AM OPPOSED?
9:08:03AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:08:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
9:08:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND
9:08:09AM ADDENDUM FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:08:11AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
9:08:12AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:08:13AM OPPOSED?
9:08:13AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:08:14AM VERY GOOD.
9:08:15AM THE AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED.
9:08:16AM SO STAFF REPORTS, CHIEF BENNETT.
9:08:26AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:08:27AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:08:29AM GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
9:08:30AM ITEM 65, ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE OFFERING TWO THREE-MINUTE
9:08:34AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC.
9:08:36AM THE FIRST ONE IS, AS YOU KNOW, WE CHANGED OUR AGENDA
9:08:39AM MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FROM SIRE TO OnBase NOT TOO LONG AGO.
9:08:44AM OUR T AND I STAFF, TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION STAFF, HAVE
9:08:48AM BEEN IMPORTING ABOUT 4 MILLION RECORDS FROM SIRE INTO
9:08:51AM OnBase.
9:08:52AM SO THEY WANT TO GIVE A SHORT DEMO TO THE PUBLIC AND TO
9:08:55AM COUNCIL ABOUT HOW ACCESSIBLE THOSE FORMER RECORDS ARE.
9:08:59AM SO THAT WILL BE A QUICK VIRTUAL PRESENTATION.
9:09:02AM SECONDLY, I HEARD A BRIEFING RECENTLY THAT I THINK WOULD
9:09:05AM APPEAL TO THE PUBLIC, AND THIS IS SOMETHING COUNCILMAN
9:09:08AM MIRANDA HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SOME TIME.
9:09:10AM WHEN A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC PURCHASES A RESIDENCE, AND THEY
9:09:14AM FIND OUT AFTER THE FACT THAT THERE WAS UNPERMITTED WORK, IT
9:09:17AM CREATES A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE FOR THEM.
9:09:19AM SO WHAT WE HAD REALIZED IS THAT WE'VE BEEN SENDING OUR
9:09:22AM ACCELA RECORDS, WHICH IS OUR PERMITTING PLATFORM, OVER TO
9:09:26AM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE FOR SOME TIME.
9:09:29AM YOU CAN ACCESS ALL THOSE PERMITS THROUGH THE PROPERTY
9:09:31AM APPRAISER, WHICH PEOPLE TEND TO GO TO MORE SO THAN TO GO
9:09:35AM BACK CHECK ON ACCELA.
9:09:37AM THEY WILL GIVE A DEMONSTRATION FOR THE PUBLIC.
9:09:40AM IF YOU ARE PURCHASING A HOME AND SOMEBODY SAYS I HAVE A NEW
9:09:43AM HOT WATER HEATER, NEW ROOF, YOU CAN GO TO THE PROPERTY
9:09:46AM APPRAISER TO SEE IF THOSE WERE PERMITTED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE
9:09:49AM BUYING SOMETHING ALREADY PREAPPROVED.
9:09:51AM JC HUDGISON, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICER, ANOTHER VIRTUAL DEMO
9:09:56AM FOR ABOUT THREE MINUTES, BARRING QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
9:09:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:10:00AM LOOK FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION.
9:10:01AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:10:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHIEF OF STAFF, I AGREE WITH THAT.
9:10:08AM HOWEVER, THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY THAT WE CAN SIMULATE THAT
9:10:12AM AND SEND TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT DO THAT KIND OF WORK LIKE
9:10:15AM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE HAS IT.
9:10:17AM YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND GO INTO THE FILES AND LOOK AT IT,
9:10:20AM LIKE ALL THE LEGAL FIRMS.
9:10:22AM SEND A NOTICE THAT YOU CAN DO THAT NOW SO WHEN THEY SELL THE
9:10:25AM HOUSE, WE GET VOID OF ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.
9:10:28AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK AFTER THIS DEMO IT WOULD BE A WORTH
9:10:31AM A PARTNERSHIP IN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN BOTH AGENCIES TO
9:10:33AM SHARE THAT TO THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY.
9:10:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION VERY
9:10:38AM MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
9:10:39AM >>JOHN BENNETT: IT WAS RECOGNIZED AS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
9:10:42AM THANK YOU.
9:10:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:46AM NOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE COMMENDATIONS AND
9:10:49AM PRESENTATION MODE.
9:10:51AM DEANNA FAGGART, ARE YOU ON?
9:11:03AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:11:04AM DEANNA FAGGART, DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING FOR CITY OF TAMPA.
9:11:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTHING IS GETTING PURCHASED THIS MORNING,
9:11:09AM I CAN TELL.
9:11:09AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:11:10AM >> SO I HAVE WITH ME A LARGE SEGMENT OF OUR STAFF, BUT NOT
9:11:14AM EVERYONE.
9:11:15AM SO WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION AT THE OFFICE, BUT I APPRECIATE
9:11:19AM THE CONCERN.
9:11:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW I SAID YOUR NAME.
9:11:22AM START WITH YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:11:23AM >> DEANNA FAGGART.
9:11:24AM SO WE ARE HERE TODAY JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PURCHASING
9:11:31AM DEPARTMENT.
9:11:32AM THE TEAM BEHIND ME WORKS VERY HARD EVERY DAY AND THE
9:11:36AM NATIONAL PROCUREMENT INSTITUTE HAS GIVEN US THE ACHIEVEMENT
9:11:40AM OF EXCELLENT IN PROCUREMENT FOR THE 19th YEAR IN A ROW.
9:11:44AM THIS AWARD IS INTENDED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE
9:11:52AM DEMONSTRATING PROFESSIONALISM, INNOVATION, BEST PRACTICES.
9:11:55AM EVERY YEAR THE CRITERIA CHANGES, SO IT'S NOT JUST RESUBMIT
9:12:00AM THE SAME APPLICATION.
9:12:02AM WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LONG PROCESS OF DOCUMENTING
9:12:04AM EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
9:12:07AM DIFFERENT JUST PROGRESSIVE IMPROVEMENTS OVER TIME.
9:12:11AM TODAY I WANTED TO ALLOW STAFF TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
9:12:15AM BUT I'M GOING TO START WITH MICHELLE BLIZZARD, WHO IS MY
9:12:19AM EXECUTIVE AIDE WHO IS THE ONE WHO COMPILES THAT APPLICATION
9:12:22AM FOR US EVERY YEAR AND SPENDS A LOT OF TIME ON THAT AND WORKS
9:12:25AM VERY HARD.
9:12:26AM >> HELLO.
9:12:26AM GOOD MORNING.
9:12:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU DON'T WANT TO COME UP.
9:12:30AM MAYBE THEY'LL CAPTURE THE GROUP OF YOU ON CAMERA, UNLESS YOU
9:12:34AM WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
9:12:36AM IT'S NEW HIGH DEFINITION TV SO IT REALLY ZOOMS IN ON YOU
9:12:42AM TOO.
9:12:43AM >> NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
9:12:45AM >> YVETTE ROSARIO.
9:12:46AM >> ANTHONY McGHEE.
9:12:48AM >> MISSY.
9:12:50AM >> STEPHANIE DOUGLAS.
9:12:53AM >> CHELSEA.
9:12:55AM >> JILL ELDER.
9:12:57AM >> MICHELLE ESTEVEZ.
9:12:58AM >> CASSIDY BAKER.
9:13:00AM >> CHRISTY.
9:13:01AM >> ERIN ELLIS.
9:13:04AM >> WELCH.
9:13:06AM >> ALDRICH.
9:13:07AM >> SO THIS TEAM REPRESENTS OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM AS WELL AS
9:13:11AM INVENTORY.
9:13:13AM WE JUST APPRECIATE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO
9:13:16AM COME UP AND BRAG A LITTLE BIT.
9:13:18AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:13:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:13:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:13:25AM I KNOW YOUR JOB IS NOT EASY.
9:13:27AM I CAN SEE WHY YOU DO SUCH AN EXCELLENT JOB BECAUSE YOU HAVE
9:13:30AM EXCELLENT EMPLOYEES BEHIND YOU.
9:13:32AM NO CHIEF CAN BE A CHIEF UNLESS SOMEBODY IS HOLDING THEM UP.
9:13:35AM I WANT TO SAY NOT IN THAT WAY, BUT IN THE RIGHT WAY, SAY
9:13:39AM THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.
9:13:41AM IT'S NOT EASY TO GET ALL THE THINGS THAT COME IN ON BIDS AND
9:13:45AM YOU HAVE TO CHECK, IF YOU HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, CERTIFIED,
9:13:48AM INSURANCE, EVERYTHING IS PILED INTO ONE.
9:13:50AM IT'S NOT JUST, OH, THIS ONE TAKES IT.
9:13:53AM NO, IT'S NOT THAT EASY.
9:13:54AM WE WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THE WHOLE STAFF, CITY OF
9:13:57AM TAMPA, PEOPLE HERE AND WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
9:14:00AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:14:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO ECHO THE CONGRATULATIONS.
9:14:03AM 19 YEARS IN A ROW IS A REALLY BIG DEAL.
9:14:06AM I LOVE THIS PARTICULAR AWARD THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR
9:14:09AM SOMETHING NEW EVERY YEAR.
9:14:11AM IT REALLY KEEPS YOU FOCUSED ON EVERY AREA BECAUSE IT SEEMS
9:14:15AM LIKE YOU DON'T PROBABLY KNOW WHAT'S COMING AND WHAT YOU HAVE
9:14:17AM TO DO.
9:14:19AM THAT'S A REAL TESTAMENT TO JUST THE ABILITY OF YOUR ENTIRE
9:14:24AM STAFF.
9:14:24AM IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL.
9:14:26AM THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN THIS MORNING.
9:14:27AM IT GETS REALLY EXCITING.
9:14:29AM YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD.
9:14:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
9:14:34AM FOLKS THAT TURN OUT THIS MONEY, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF
9:14:37AM THE STAFF AND HOW RESPONSIBLE YOU ARE AND THE AMOUNT OF
9:14:40AM TRUST THAT WE PLACE IN EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR EXCELLENCE.
9:14:42AM IT'S NICE TO ALWAYS BE RECOGNIZED.
9:14:48AM I SHARE THE SENTIMENT EVERYBODY HERE ON COUNCIL OF OUR
9:14:51AM APPRECIATION FOR EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO.
9:14:52AM THE FOLKS NOT HERE TODAY, WE APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL.
9:14:55AM CHIEF BENNETT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
9:14:59AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WOULD.
9:14:59AM THANK YOU.
9:15:00AM THANKS FOR THE MOMENT AND THE PRIVILEGE TO RECOGNIZE THIS
9:15:03AM GROUP.
9:15:03AM I WANT TO TELL YOU, DEANNA COMPETED FOR THIS POSITION ABOUT
9:15:06AM TWO YEARS AGO.
9:15:07AM MR. SPEARMAN, OUR ELONGATED DIRECTOR, RETIRED.
9:15:12AM A YEAR AGO, COMING UP RECENTLY THIS TEAM WORKED TIRELESSLY
9:15:16AM AROUND THE HURRICANE TO BRING IN SUPPLIES UNDER TREMENDOUSLY
9:15:20AM DIFFICULT CONDITIONS TWICE IN A ROW.
9:15:24AM THEY SLEPT IN THE EOC.
9:15:25AM THEY CONSTANTLY WORKED ON PROCURING THINGS DURING THE
9:15:28AM EMERGENCY, AND THEY DID AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING JOB.
9:15:31AM SECONDLY, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR RECENTLY TRUSTING THEM
9:15:34AM TO ELEVATE SOME OF THE PROCUREMENT STANDARDS AND REPORT
9:15:37AM TRANSPARENTLY BACK TO COUNCIL IN THAT SPACE.
9:15:40AM IT HELPED MANAGE THEIR WORKLOAD TO DO THINGS OTHER UNDER
9:15:44AM UNIQUE CONDITIONS, LIKE TARIFFS AND INCREASES AND ALL THAT.
9:15:47AM AGAIN, THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR COLLABORATING WITH US AND
9:15:50AM WORKING WITH THE STAFF UNDER THESE CONDITIONS.
9:15:52AM THANK YOU.
9:15:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:15:53AM WELL CONGRATULATIONS.
9:15:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:55AM NEXT IS THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AN UPDATE
9:16:12AM ON THE ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:16:14AM I SEE OUR F.D.O.T. REPRESENTATIVE AND MOBILITY GUY BACK
9:16:17AM THERE.
9:16:17AM HEY, MOBILITY GUY.
9:16:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:16:25AM BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
9:16:27AM I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE BRIAN HUNTER.
9:16:34AM I KNOW HE NOT A STRANGER TO THIS BODY, BUT HE IS HERE TO
9:16:35AM PRESENT ON BEHALF OF F.D.O.T. ON SEVERAL TOPICS THAT ARE A
9:16:39AM DIRECT RESULT OF INTERACTIONS AND REQUESTS BY YOU ALL.
9:16:43AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO
9:16:47AM SOME OF THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION REQUESTS BROUGHT FORTH BY
9:16:51AM YOU IN THIS PARTICULAR SETTING AS WELL AS GREAT PARTNERS
9:16:54AM WITH US.
9:16:55AM OUR SYSTEMS INTERFACE ALL ACROSS THE CITY IN SOME VERY
9:17:00AM OBVIOUS PLACES LIKE INTERSTATE RAMPS BUT ALL ACROSS THE
9:17:03AM ROADWAY NETWORK ITSELF.
9:17:05AM F.D.O.T. ALSO ADMINISTERS A LOT OF FEDERAL FUNDS THROUGH THE
9:17:08AM LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM TO FUND CONSTRUCTION ON A LOT OF OUR
9:17:13AM CITY OF TAMPA-OWNED ROADWAYS.
9:17:15AM SO THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS AND CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE
9:17:18AM AND COOPERATE WITH US.
9:17:23AM EVERY WEEK, A LOT OF TIMES DAILY.
9:17:24AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT.
9:17:26AM BRIAN HUNTER HAS A FEW THINGS TO UPDATE YOU ON.
9:17:30AM I WILL TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO HIM.
9:17:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, BRIAN.
9:17:33AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:17:34AM I JUST HAVE A --
9:17:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE TO START WITH YOUR NAME.
9:17:39AM >> BRIAN HUNTER WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
9:17:40AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:17:42AM JUST UPDATE YOU ALL ON A COUPLE OF PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING
9:17:45AM ON, LIKE BRANDON SAID, EVERY SINGLE ONE REQUIRES SIGNIFICANT
9:17:49AM COORDINATION WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF AND WE REALLY
9:17:51AM APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONALISM AND EASE WITH WHICH IT IS TO
9:17:54AM COORDINATE WITH THEM.
9:17:55AM THE FIRST ONE WE RECENTLY COMPLETED, THE DOYLE CARLTON TO
9:18:00AM TAMPA SIDEWALK CONNECTION.
9:18:01AM I BELIEVE THIS REQUEST CAME OUT OF COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK'S
9:18:04AM OFFICE.
9:18:05AM IT WAS AN IDEA SHE PRESENTED TO US AND MADE A WHOLE LOT OF
9:18:08AM SENSE.
9:18:09AM GLAD WE GOT THAT AND WERE ABLE TO PUT IT IN.
9:18:11AM THAT IS JUST NORTH OF THE I-275 RAMP THAT GOES TO DOYLE
9:18:17AM CARLTON.
9:18:17AM THERE WE'RE CONNECTING TAMPA STREET TO THE WATER WORKS PARK
9:18:21AM AREA.
9:18:21AM WE ALSO PUT IN A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ACROSS DOYLE CARLTON
9:18:25AM AND A SPEED TABLE AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.
9:18:27AM THAT ONE JUST WRAPPED UP EARLIER THIS YEAR.
9:18:30AM IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY HEAVILY USED WHEN I WAS OUT THERE THE
9:18:33AM LAST COUPLE OF TIMES.
9:18:34AM STARTING EARLY NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE HAVING A LANDSCAPING
9:18:38AM PROJECT ON I-275 BASICALLY FROM FLORIBRASKA UP TO
9:18:41AM HILLSBOROUGH WITH AN EMPHASIS IN THE ROBLES PARK AREA.
9:18:45AM THAT IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF PLANTS GOING OUT THERE.
9:18:48AM WE HAVE ALMOST OVER 900 TREES, 3300 PLANTS THAT WILL BE
9:18:52AM PLANTED ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
9:18:54AM MOST OF THOSE WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THE NOISE BARRIERS.
9:18:57AM WE DO HAVE SOME AT THE INTERCHANGES FOR BEAUTIFICATION IN
9:19:00AM THAT AREA.
9:19:01AM THAT ONE, WE WORKED REALLY HEAVILY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
9:19:04AM PICK THE RIGHT FLORIDA FRIENDLY AND SITE APPROPRIATE PLANTS
9:19:09AM AND GET THEM IN LOCATIONS EASY TO MAINTAIN.
9:19:11AM ANOTHER PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY
9:19:14AM SIGNIFICANTLY ON IS THE ASHLEY DRIVE PROJECT.
9:19:17AM AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE A PROJECT ON ASHLEY TO
9:19:19AM RECONNECT SOME OF THAT GRID NETWORK THERE.
9:19:22AM IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT, WE HAVE TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO
9:19:26AM THE OFF-RAMPS, ASHLEY AND SCOTT STREET.
9:19:29AM NOW, OUR PERMANENT LONG-TERM CONDITION THAT WE ARE GOING TO
9:19:33AM REBUILD, THE SCOTT STREET RAMP AND THE RAMP THAT GOES ON TO
9:19:37AM 275 ABOVE THAT, THAT ONE IS NOT SCHEDULED UNTIL MUCH LATER
9:19:40AM IN OUR WORK PROGRAM LIKE 2032.
9:19:42AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO IDENTIFY SOME INTERIM
9:19:45AM IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN KIND OF PIECE TOGETHER A WAY TO
9:19:49AM HANDLE THAT DISPLACED TRAFFIC FROM THE CONSTRUCTION.
9:19:52AM SCOTT STREET, WE ARE GOING TO WIDEN THE OFF-RAMP SO WE CAN
9:19:57AM PUT ANOTHER DEDICATED TURN LANE ON TO TAMPA TO TAKE SOME OF
9:20:01AM THAT AND THEN THERE WILL BE SOME OTHER DETOUR ROUTES THAT
9:20:04AM WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT THERE.
9:20:08AM HOWARD FRANKLAND BRIDGE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROJECTS.
9:20:10AM THAT WILL WRAP UP EARLY NEXT YEAR.
9:20:12AM THAT DOES INCLUDE A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITY ON THE
9:20:15AM NORTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE THAT WILL TIE INTO ALL THE TRAILS
9:20:19AM IN THE CYPRESS PARK AREA OVER THERE JUST NORTH OF I-4 AND
9:20:23AM EVENTUALLY INTO THE GREATER TRAIL NETWORK IN THE CITY OF
9:20:27AM TAMPA AND THROUGHOUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND PINELLAS COUNTY
9:20:30AM AS WELL.
9:20:30AM ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE'RE CONNECTING TO 4th STREET TRAIL AS
9:20:33AM WELL AS ULMERTON TRAIL IN PINELLAS COUNTY.
9:20:35AM THE DOWNTOWN OPERATIONAL AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT,
9:20:39AM IT'S CURRENTLY ONGOING.
9:20:40AM THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETE SOMETIME IN THE MIDDLE OF 2027,
9:20:44AM PROBABLY SPRING TO SUMMER IN THAT RANGE.
9:20:46AM WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE, WHICH IS THE NEXT BIG PROJECT THAT
9:20:49AM WE'LL HAVE COMING ONLINE, THAT WILL START CONSTRUCTION
9:20:52AM SOMETIME EARLY NEXT YEAR.
9:20:54AM WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF THE EARLY WORKS PROJECT TO HELP WITH
9:20:56AM THE TRAFFIC ACCOMMODATION DURING THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
9:20:59AM THAT WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION A LITTLE WHILE, LIKE 2031,
9:21:03AM EARLY 2032 IS WHEN IT'S COMPLETED.
9:21:06AM THOSE ARE ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE, BUT MORE THAN HAPPY TO
9:21:10AM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
9:21:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE
9:21:14AM UPDATES.
9:21:18AM I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I LEAD A SUNDAY BIKE GROUP THAT HAS
9:21:24AM BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CHANGES IN BIKE-PEDESTRIAN
9:21:30AM ACCOMMODATIONS.
9:21:31AM WE HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE IS THE LIGHT NOW AT OLA AND MLK,
9:21:36AM SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
9:21:37AM WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:21:38AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FINISHING OF THE PROJECT.
9:21:40AM IT'S NICE TO SEE WHAT'S COMING AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT ALL
9:21:44AM THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AND JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO
9:21:47AM MUCH AND REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE BRINGING THESE
9:21:50AM UPDATES.
9:21:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:21:53AM THOSE OF US THAT SERVE ON THE TPO, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF
9:21:59AM PEOPLE UP HERE ON THIS PANEL RIGHT NOW, WE ARE VERY AWARE OF
9:22:02AM HOW RECEPTIVE AND WHAT A GREAT PARTNER THE FLORIDA
9:22:04AM DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS, PARTICULARLY THIS DISTRICT
9:22:09AM AND WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WHAT YOU ALL DO WITH THE CITY
9:22:12AM OF TAMPA.
9:22:12AM WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE OUR SECRETARY AND ALL THE SUPPORT STAFF
9:22:15AM AND WHAT YOU BRING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:22:18AM ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING SUCH A GOOD
9:22:22AM PARTNER.
9:22:22AM OTHER AREAS THAT MAYBE HAVE NOT GREAT RELATIONSHIPS AND
9:22:25AM PARTNERSHIPS.
9:22:26AM WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE THAT.
9:22:28AM MAKING SURE, AND PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN A PHONE CALL, YOU
9:22:31AM GUYS ARE RETAINING THE UNDERPASS SOMEWHERE IN THAT PROJECT,
9:22:35AM MIXED MODAL TYPE OF TRANSITION FROM NORTH OF 275 TO SOUTH OF
9:22:39AM 275 SO WE DON'T END UP IN ANOTHER CYPRESS SITUATION.
9:22:43AM IF YOU COULD TAKE AN IOU ON MAKING SURE WE RESERVE A PATH
9:22:47AM UNDERNEATH 275 WITH A WESTSHORE, LIKE TRASK, WHEREVER IT
9:22:53AM WILL BE, RESERVE AN ACCESS FROM NORTH TO SOUTH SO WE HAVE A
9:22:56AM MIXED MODAL CONNECTION TO ANY OF OUR PROPOSED TRANSPORTATION
9:22:59AM OPTIONS.
9:23:00AM >> YEAH, WE DO HAVE A PLAN AT THE DALE MABRY AS WELL AS
9:23:04AM WESTSHORE TO PROVIDE CONNECTIONS.
9:23:07AM I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE AT RIO STREET, BUT NOT HUNDRED
9:23:11AM PERCENT SURE ON THAT ONE.
9:23:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO KEEP HITTING THAT, LIKE CYPRESS,
9:23:17AM WHERE WE END UP A SUPPORT STRUCTURE WHERE WE WANT -- THANK
9:23:22AM YOU VERY MUCH.
9:23:22AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:23:23AM MAKE SURE YOU BRING OUR GOOD WISHES FROM COUNCIL BACK TO
9:23:26AM EVERYBODY THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH.
9:23:27AM THANK YOU.
9:23:30AM I HAVE A PERSONAL POINT OF PRIVILEGE.
9:23:34AM LIKE TO INTRODUCE AN OFFICER, JOSEPH O'NEAL.
9:23:37AM COME HERE.
9:23:43AM YOU CAN'T GET AWAY.
9:23:44AM WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT WILL COME AND GET YOU.
9:23:46AM DON'T MAKE ME RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER.
9:23:55AM THIS IS OFFICER JOSEPH O'NEAL.
9:23:59AM HE IS CELEBRATING 25 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE CITY OF
9:24:02AM TAMPA.
9:24:03AM HE'S BEEN PROTECTING THE CITY --
9:24:06AM >> 45.
9:24:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 45.
9:24:09AM 45 YEARS.
9:24:10AM PROTECTING US.
9:24:11AM ALSO IN ADDITION, 20 YEARS IN THE RESERVES HELPING PROTECT
9:24:15AM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
9:24:17AM I BELIEVE TODAY IS YOUR LAST DAY.
9:24:20AM >> YES, SIR.
9:24:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
9:24:22AM ONE, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF CITY COUNCIL FOR
9:24:25AM YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND THE UNITED STATES
9:24:28AM OF AMERICA.
9:24:29AM WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:24:30AM I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT THIS COUNCIL IS VERY APPRECIATIVE
9:24:35AM OF THE PEOPLE THAT WEAR BADGES AND PROTECT US EVERY DAY.
9:24:39AM WE KNOW YOU'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE IN
9:24:43AM RETIREMENT.
9:24:44AM MAYBE WE'LL SEE YOU RUNNING FOR OFFICE ONE DAY.
9:24:47AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: HE FORGOT TO MENTION A REALLY IMPORTANT
9:24:56AM POINT THAT YOU'VE BEEN PROTECTING US AND THE PEOPLE THAT
9:24:59AM COME TO THE CHAMBERS.
9:25:00AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:25:03AM >> IT'S INTERESTING.
9:25:03AM I NEVER KNEW SO MUCH WENT ON IN CITY COUNCIL.
9:25:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEY, WE'RE THE BEST TV IN TOWN.
9:25:09AM >> IT IS.
9:25:10AM IT IS.
9:25:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO ME A FAVOR, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND
9:25:14AM SAY SOMETHING TO EVERYBODY?
9:25:15AM >> JOSEPH O'NEAL.
9:25:16AM I'VE BEEN HERE 45 YEARS.
9:25:19AM I'VE ENJOYED IT.
9:25:21AM IT'S A HARD JOB, BUT IT'S WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT.
9:25:24AM PUT A LOT INTO IT, YOU GET A LOT OUT.
9:25:27AM I MADE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND A LOT OF GOOD TIMES AND BAD
9:25:31AM TIMES.
9:25:32AM GOOD TIMES OUTWEIGH THE BAD.
9:25:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:25:36AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:25:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: OFFICER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:25:40AM ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO DEAL WITH AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE A NICE
9:25:44AM SMILE.
9:25:45AM JUST 45 YEARS, AS THE SONG GOES, THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE
9:25:49AM PROUD OF.
9:25:50AM >> THANK YOU.
9:25:51AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:25:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELL, THANK YOU.
9:25:52AM OKAY.
9:25:53AM WALK AWAY.
9:25:54AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:25:54AM WE ARE AT BOARD AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS.
9:26:04AM OH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:26:06AM I DO NOT HAVE THE SHEETS.
9:26:15AM SIGN-IN SHEETS.
9:26:18AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:26:21AM I MET MICHAEL FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS PAST WEEK.
9:26:26AM IT WAS A PLEASURE.
9:26:27AM I REALLY ENJOYED MEETING YOU.
9:26:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:26:30AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:26:31AM SO, YES, MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:26:34AM TODAY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRAINING THAT IS COMING UP FOR
9:26:39AM GENERATION Z, BUILDING A NEW SCHOOL AND A PATHWAY TO POWER.
9:26:45AM OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, YOUNG LEADERS IN EAST TAMPA HAVE
9:26:51AM STEPPED UP, FORWARD AND CLARIFY WITH -- THE MESSAGE IS
9:26:57AM URGENT AND UNIFIED.
9:26:59AM THEY ARE READY TO LEAD.
9:27:00AM NOT SOMEDAY, BUT NOW.
9:27:02AM THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR PERMISSION.
9:27:07AM THEY ARE DEMANDING THE TOOLS.
9:27:08AM THAT'S WHY TRAINING IS NOT A LUXURY, IT'S A NECESSITY.
9:27:11AM UNLIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP CENTER, TOP-DOWN MODEL,
9:27:19AM OUR FOLKS FLIP THE SCRIPT.
9:27:21AM WE DON'T JUST TEACH LEADERSHIP, WE CULTIVATE COMMUNITY
9:27:26AM POWER.
9:27:26AM GROUND-UP BLUEPRINT DESIGNED BY AND FOR THE NEXT GENERATION
9:27:32AM OF CHANGE AGENT.
9:27:33AM OUR FIRST WORKSHOP STARTS ON OCTOBER THE 30th.
9:27:36AM APPLICATIONS ARE NOW BEING OPEN FOR OUR INAUGURAL TRAINING.
9:27:45AM WHAT DOES IT INCLUDE -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT,
9:27:46AM PROGRAM DESIGN, COMMUNITY ORGANIZING AND MOBILIZING FROM THE
9:27:53AM BLOCK TO THE BALLOT.
9:27:54AM ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, OUR OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
9:27:59AM COMMUNITY BENEFIT, THE CRA.
9:28:03AM ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
9:28:07AM TOOLS FOR EQUITY.
9:28:13AM NEGOTIATION.
9:28:16AM ENGAGING, POLITICIANS AND OTHERS WITH CONFIDENCE.
9:28:20AM FINALLY, PRIVATE-PUBLIC DEAL MAKING.
9:28:24AM PUTTING THE COMMUNITY AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE.
9:28:27AM THIS IS MORE THAN TRAINING.
9:28:29AM IT'S A BLUEPRINT FOR GENERATIONAL WEALTH, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT,
9:28:34AM AND BOTTOM-UP TRANSFORMATION TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE TAKING THE
9:28:39AM LEADERSHIP, THANK YOU.
9:28:40AM THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
9:28:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:28:44AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARTY SHELBY.
9:28:48AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE RULES?
9:28:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:28:51AM GOOD MORNING.
9:28:52AM GOOD MORNING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
9:28:53AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:28:55AM VERY BRIEFLY, I'D LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE RULES
9:28:58AM GOVERNING THE DECORUM OF TODAY'S MEETING.
9:29:00AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
9:29:04AM AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
9:29:06AM THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON
9:29:09AM THE ITEM.
9:29:09AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
9:29:14AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:29:15AM NOW, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT,
9:29:18AM WHICH IS COMING UP NEXT, YOU SHOULD HAVE FILLED OUT A
9:29:20AM SPEAKER CARD AND PLACED IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE ROOM.
9:29:23AM ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
9:29:25AM EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
9:29:27AM APPROACH AND SPEAK.
9:29:29AM NAMES, PLEASE, HAVE TO BE PRINTED LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT
9:29:32AM CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
9:29:34AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, THAT IS LISTED
9:29:39AM AS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA, USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET
9:29:43AM THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS INSTEAD, AND YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO
9:29:47AM SPEAK TO THAT ITEM WILL BE WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED UP.
9:29:51AM IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
9:29:55AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED TO
9:29:57AM PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING
9:30:01AM VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:30:04AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:30:09AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:30:12AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
9:30:14AM FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:30:18AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY ALSO
9:30:21AM BE RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE CHAIR AND AT THE DISCRETION OF
9:30:24AM THE CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER
9:30:27AM OF TODAY'S MEETING.
9:30:29AM FINALLY, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THAT GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
9:30:33AM IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK ON ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
9:30:36AM AND ON THE ITEMS THAT ARE SET FOR STAFF REPORTS.
9:30:39AM IF IT IS A STAFF REPORT, THE TIME TO SPEAK IS NOW.
9:30:44AM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD REMAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER
9:30:47AM UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE
9:30:50AM CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE
9:30:53AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:30:54AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:30:57AM THANK YOU.
9:30:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
9:31:00AM VALERIE AND CHARLIE, YOU SIGNED UP ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.
9:31:07AM I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT,
9:31:09AM IS THAT CORRECT?
9:31:10AM AND CHARLIE, PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:31:12AM I'LL INCORPORATE YOU INTO THAT LIST.
9:31:15AM TARAH BLUMA FOLLOWED BY MARTY GREENE.
9:31:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:31:33AM I'M TARAH BLUMA.
9:31:34AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CIP VOTE THAT YOU HAD THE OTHER
9:31:39AM NIGHT.
9:31:39AM I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THOSE ITEMS SHOULD HAVE HAD SEPARATE
9:31:43AM VOTES.
9:31:43AM I KNOW THAT MORE THAN ONE COUNCIL MEMBER HAD CONCERNS WITH
9:31:47AM VARIOUS INDIVIDUAL ITEMS.
9:31:50AM LUMPING THEM ALL TOGETHER IS PRESSURING PEOPLE TO HAVE TO
9:31:54AM OBVIOUSLY APPROVE THE ENTIRE PACKAGE INSTEAD OF BEING
9:31:57AM EVALUATED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL MERIT.
9:32:01AM ESPECIALLY WITH SO MANY CONCERNS REGARDING THE HUNDRED
9:32:04AM MILLION DOLLARS SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT, TWO PEOPLE HAD
9:32:10AM MENTIONED -- WE'VE ALREADY THROWN MONEY AFTER THAT PROJECT.
9:32:15AM YOU SHOULDN'T THROW MORE MONEY AT A BAD PROJECT JUST BECAUSE
9:32:18AM YOU'VE ALREADY SPENT SOME.
9:32:20AM LET'S CUT OUR LOSSES AND MOVE ON TO SOME SMALLER PROJECTS
9:32:24AM THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MORE FOCUSED
9:32:30AM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
9:32:31AM AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL CHARITABLE
9:32:36AM GIVING TOPIC.
9:32:37AM I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE WITH THE BEST OF
9:32:43AM INTENTIONS AND YOUR HEARTS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
9:32:46AM THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE TAMPA
9:32:50AM BAY AREA, AND WE CAN'T GIVE TO THEM ALL, NOR SHOULD YOU WANT
9:32:56AM TO.
9:32:56AM JUST BECAUSE AN ORGANIZATION IS DOING GREAT WORK DOES NOT
9:33:00AM MEAN THAT IT NECESSARILY SHOULD BE FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
9:33:04AM I WORK IN THIS INDUSTRY.
9:33:06AM I THINK THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS BACKWARDS.
9:33:08AM YOU HAVE ALL THESE GROUPS THAT YOU ALL HAVE DECIDED ARE
9:33:13AM GREAT AND YOU WANT TO SUPPORT, AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND
9:33:20AM APARTMENTS TO STICK THEM TO.
9:33:22AM YOU NEED TO START WITH YOUR GOAL.
9:33:24AM IDENTIFY WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT PROGRAMS ARE GOING
9:33:26AM TO BEST ACCOMPLISH THAT.
9:33:28AM SOME PORTION OF THAT MIGHT BE CITY PROGRAMS.
9:33:32AM IT MIGHT BE STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERSHIPS.
9:33:34AM IT MIGHT BE DIRECTED PERSONAL GRANTS TO INDIVIDUALS, AND
9:33:40AM SOME OF THAT THAT WILL BE AND SHOULD BE WORKING WITH OUR
9:33:43AM GREAT NONPROFIT PARTNERS.
9:33:46AM BUT AFTER YOU IDENTIFY WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE, YOU NEED TO GO
9:33:51AM OUT AND LOOK FOR THE BEST NONPROFIT TO HELP YOU ACCOMPLISH
9:33:54AM THAT SPECIFIC GOAL.
9:33:56AM JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE GREAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE THE
9:33:59AM BEST THING, THE BEST ORGANIZATION TO HELP FOR THAT SPECIFIC
9:34:03AM GOAL IN LINE WITH THAT DEPARTMENT.
9:34:05AM THEN YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THEIR CHARITY NAVIGATOR RATINGS.
9:34:10AM YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTS, REVIEWS FROM
9:34:13AM OTHER NONPROFIT PEERS AND THEIR CLIENT POPULATION.
9:34:18AM WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE SERVING AND DO THOSE PEOPLE
9:34:21AM TRUST THAT ORGANIZATION?
9:34:22AM LET'S THEN GIVE THEM SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES AND THEN HOLD THEM
9:34:30AM ACCOUNTABLE.
9:34:30AM I HAVEN'T HEARD A SINGLE ONE OF YOU SAY, HEY, WHAT DID WE
9:34:34AM GET FOR THE $175,000 ANNUALLY TO THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA?
9:34:39AM CAN YOU DEFEND THAT?
9:34:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TIME IS UP.
9:34:43AM >> -- TO RECEIVE 12% OF NONPROFIT FUNDING.
9:34:47AM TAMPA HISTORY 8 AND VETERANS 3.
9:34:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TIME IS UP.
9:34:51AM PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL.
9:34:52AM MARTY GREENE FOLLOWED BY MENTESNOT.
9:34:58AM >> MARTY GREENE WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
9:35:00AM I CALL IT SEXUAL ASSAULT, BUT I ALSO CALL IT WOMANIZING.
9:35:07AM AS THIS STATES, THIS IS FROM ANOTHER EMPLOYEE THAT WAS
9:35:11AM SCARED TO COME FORTH ABOUT MICHAEL BROWN.
9:35:13AM IT SAYS, MORE DISTURBING, I PERSONALLY WITNESS A TEMPORARY
9:35:17AM EMPLOYEE NAMED ERICA ENGAGE IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY WITH
9:35:20AM MR. BROWN WHILE AT WORK.
9:35:22AM THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
9:35:23AM MR. BROWN TRY TO BLAME IT ON ANOTHER GIRL THAT IT WAS
9:35:31AM ALREADY QUESTIONED BY RODRIGUEZ.
9:35:37AM THIS IS A CONTINUALLY PATTERN HAVING SEXUAL ADVANCES, SEXUAL
9:35:45AM PROBLEMS WITH EMPLOYEES.
9:35:45AM SOMETHING NEED TO BE DEALT WITH WITH THE SITUATION.
9:35:48AM THE EMPLOYEES SCARED TO COME FORWARD.
9:35:51AM PAM MICHAEL -- PAYING MICHAEL BROWN FOR OVERTIME.
9:35:55AM GOT THE WHOLE E-MAIL.
9:35:56AM WILLING TO COME FORWARD, BUT LAWYERS DEALING WITH THAT
9:35:58AM SITUATION NOW.
9:35:59AM WHAT I WANT TO BRING FORWARD TODAY IS, LET'S TALK ABOUT
9:36:06AM STORMWATER.
9:36:06AM NORTH TAMPA.
9:36:07AM THE CITY OF TAMPA PAID OUT $3.2 MILLION, BUT ALTOGETHER IT
9:36:11AM WAS PAID OUT $750 MILLION.
9:36:14AM WE AT FAULT.
9:36:17AM THE REASON WHY -- IT'S CALLED PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.
9:36:20AM WE DID NOT MAINTENANCE NONE OF THOSE PUMPS.
9:36:23AM I WAS THE ONE GOING TO GET THE DIESEL TRUCKS AND BRING BACK
9:36:26AM TO THE YARD SO THE DIESEL COULD BE FILLED UP.
9:36:29AM THE REASON THE PUMPS DON'T TURN ON, IF THE COURTHOUSE WENT
9:36:35AM -- THE SECOND GENERATOR WOULD KICK ON.
9:36:38AM WHY DIDN'T IT KICK ON?
9:36:39AM REASON DIDN'T KICK ON, NO DIESEL IN THE TANKS.
9:36:43AM THEREFORE, TRYING TO BLAME IT ON HURRICANES, HURRICANE DID
9:36:45AM THIS, NO, WE DID THAT.
9:36:47AM THAT'S ON US.
9:36:48AM WE'RE HUMAN.
9:36:49AM WE MAKE MISTAKES.
9:36:50AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, FTEs NOT GETTING THE TRAINING WE
9:36:55AM NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRY TO CONQUER THIS SITUATION.
9:36:59AM ABOUT THE HURRICANES, WE'RE NOT READY FOR IT.
9:37:02AM IF ONE COMES RIGHT NOW, THE CITY IS GOING TO GO DOWN.
9:37:05AM WHY?
9:37:05AM WE COULD TALK ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA, WHAT ABOUT NORTH TAMPA?
9:37:09AM ALL THE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE NO CARS, NO MONEY.
9:37:12AM ICE IS PICKING THEM UP BECAUSE A LOT OF IMMIGRANTS OVER
9:37:15AM THERE.
9:37:15AM A LOT OF POOR BLACK PEOPLE.
9:37:18AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT.
9:37:20AM WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BLAME, THE COUNTY, NO, THE CITY.
9:37:26AM YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE PUMPS EVERY 30 DAYS.
9:37:30AM TURN THE PUMPS ON.
9:37:31AM MAKE SURE YOU GO TO THE OUTFALL.
9:37:34AM TURN ON THE NEXT ONE.
9:37:36AM GO TO THE NEXT OUTFALL.
9:37:38AM THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
9:37:39AM TURNING THEM ON, SEE IF THEY ARE WORKING AND THEN NOT
9:37:42AM WORKING.
9:37:42AM THEREFORE, UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW, ANYBODY COULD REQUEST IT.
9:37:46AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN REQUEST IT BUT WHO FALL ON,
9:37:49AM DEAF EARS?
9:37:50AM LIKE I SAY, THE PROBLEMS I HAVE, BRIAN CAMPBELL SAYING
9:37:54AM CERTAIN THINGS, HE IS A SERPENT, A SNAKE, SPINELESS LITTLE
9:37:58AM MAN.
9:37:58AM HE WON'T SAY NOTHING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND I ADDRESS
9:38:02AM THAT WITH HIM.
9:38:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. GREEN.
9:38:04AM MENTESNOT FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:38:08AM GOOD MORNING.
9:38:08AM >> UHURU.
9:38:10AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
9:38:12AM MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:38:14AM A LOT OF TALK GOING ON ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK.
9:38:18AM I WANT TO BRING SOME AWARENESS TO THAT.
9:38:23AM SOME PEOPLE HAVE OBJECTION SAYING CHARLIE KIRK IS EQUIVALENT
9:38:26AM TO MARTIN LUTHER KING OR MOTHER TERESA OR WHO SO FAR.
9:38:31AM IT'S A GREAT PROBABILITY THAT TO SOME PEOPLE HE MIGHT BE.
9:38:37AM THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THAT OPINION.
9:38:38AM BUT TO SOME PEOPLE, TYLER ROBINSON IS LIKE NAT TURNER OR
9:38:44AM LIKE JOHN BROWN OR LIKE FRED HAMPTON OR LIKE HUEY P. NEWTON.
9:38:50AM TYLER ROBINSON IS LIKE THE RESISTANCE.
9:38:54AM SO WHAT ONE PERSON IS TO ONE PERSON IT MIGHT BE TO SOMEBODY
9:38:59AM ELSE.
9:39:01AM IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
9:39:04AM AND IN LIFE, THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES.
9:39:07AM I HAVE CONSEQUENCES FOR COMING HERE TRYING EXPRESS
9:39:13AM REPARATIONS.
9:39:14AM TRYING TO EXPRESS THAT WE'RE 26% OF THE POPULATION AND WE
9:39:17AM NEED 26% OF THE CITY BUDGET RETROACTIVELY FROM 1855.
9:39:23AM THAT'S TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:39:26AM YOU GOT MFs COMING UP HERE TALKING ABOUT A BITCH JUST
9:39:32AM TALKED ABOUT 900 TREES AT ROBLES PARK.
9:39:34AM THEY TALK ABOUT BIKE PATHS.
9:39:38AM THEY TALK ABOUT GREENSPACE.
9:39:41AM THEY TALK ABOUT RIVER WALKS, BUT NOBODY IN THIS CITY COUNCIL
9:39:45AM IN THE HISTORY OF THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS EVER TALKED ABOUT AN
9:39:48AM AVERAGE PLAN, A GENERAL PLAN, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE
9:39:56AM AFRICAN, FOR THE 26% OF THE POPULATION OF THIS CITY.
9:40:01AM NOBODY HAS EVER TALKED ABOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR HOW
9:40:05AM THE AFRICAN IS GOING TO BE HERE IN THIS CITY A THOUSAND
9:40:10AM YEARS FROM NOW.
9:40:11AM WE GET NOTHING.
9:40:12AM PEOPLE COMING DOWN HERE HAVING TO BEG, BEG, BEG, BEG, MADE
9:40:20AM AFRICAN PEOPLE OUT OF A BEGGING CLASS AND YOU LAUGH AT IT.
9:40:23AM YOU TRY TO STAND UP AND THEY SHOOT YOU RIGHT DOWN.
9:40:25AM YOU TRY TO STAND UP FOR WHAT'S DECENT, FOR WHAT'S HUMANE,
9:40:30AM AND THEY TRY TO TREAT YOU LIKE, OH, HE'S RADICAL.
9:40:33AM HE'S THIS.
9:40:34AM THAT PERSON IS THAT.
9:40:35AM SHE'S THIS, SHE'S THAT.
9:40:37AM NO, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
9:40:40AM YOU COME IN A PLACE WHERE THERE IS CITY GOVERNMENT AND YOU
9:40:44AM DON'T HEAR THE WORD COLONIALISM, REPARATIONS,
9:40:48AM GENTRIFICATION, IN A TIME LIKE TODAY, A SORRY CITY COUNCIL
9:40:55AM HAVE NEVER ONCE MENTIONED THE WORD PALESTINE.
9:40:59AM GENOCIDE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, RIGHT THIS SECOND IN PALESTINE.
9:41:03AM IT'S GOING ON RIGHT HERE.
9:41:04AM SEVEN PEOPLE AND NEVER HEARD THE WORD PALESTINE COME OUT OF
9:41:11AM THEIR MOUTH.
9:41:11AM SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT.
9:41:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, METESNOT.
9:41:15AM STEPHANIE POYNOR FOLLOWED BY CONNIE BURTON.
9:41:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:41:21AM STEPHANIE POYNOR, I FIRST OF ALL WANT TO THANK THE STAFF
9:41:23AM THAT REACHES OUT TO ME.
9:41:25AM I HAVE QUITE A FEW THAT DO REACH OUT TO ME WHEN I DO MY
9:41:30AM AGENDA REVIEW.
9:41:31AM AND THEY DO ANSWER SOME OF MY QUESTIONS.
9:41:33AM THAT'S WHY I DON'T FURTHER PURSUE THEM.
9:41:35AM I THINK IT'S REALLY NICE THEY TAKE THE TIME TO ANSWER MY
9:41:41AM QUESTIONS.
9:41:42AM I THINK MY QUESTIONS ARE RELEVANT BUT NOT ALWAYS.
9:41:44AM I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST POINT OUT THAT ASHLEY DRIVE, I HOPE
9:41:47AM EVERY PENNY OF IT COMES OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA, IF YOU CAN
9:41:50AM EVER GET MONEY OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA BECAUSE FRANKLIN
9:41:53AM STREET CAN'T.
9:41:54AM WEST RIVER PROJECT, SAME THING, ALTHOUGH I STILL THINK IT
9:41:57AM VIOLATES THE COMP PLAN.
9:41:58AM NUMBER 26, CLOVER WITH CREDIT CARD FEES, I HOPE THAT'S
9:42:02AM WORKING FORWARD ON GETTING US NOT SUPPLEMENTING PEOPLE USING
9:42:06AM THEIR CREDIT CARDS INSTEAD OF PAYING CASH OR USING A DEBIT
9:42:11AM CARD LIKE NORMAL BUSINESSES.
9:42:13AM 40 AND 41, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS GOING TO USF, MY MOUTH
9:42:18AM HANGS OPEN THAT THEY WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED MIDDLE AND
9:42:22AM LOW-INCOME BUSINESSES IN THE 6 TO 99 EMPLOYEES.
9:42:26AM I'M THINKING 1 TO 5 IS MIDDLE AND SMALL, LOW-INCOME
9:42:31AM BUSINESSES.
9:42:31AM IT BLOWS MY MIND.
9:42:32AM MY DAD OWNED BUSINESS FOR YEARS.
9:42:34AM HE WAS IN THE LAST BUSINESS, AND HE WAS MAKING GOOD MONEY,
9:42:38AM AND IF YOU'RE NOT MAKING GOOD MONEY BY THE TIME YOU HAVE SIX
9:42:41AM SOLID EMPLOYEES, THEN YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY
9:42:44AM WRONG.
9:42:45AM BUT I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD LOWER IT DOWN 1 TO 5 EMPLOYEES
9:42:48AM AND START THERE.
9:42:49AM 42 THROUGH 44, 140% OF AMI.
9:42:54AM CURRENTLY, ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, IF YOU ARE ONE
9:42:57AM PERSON, YOU CAN MAKE $102,000 A YEAR AND QUALIFY TO BUY
9:43:03AM THOSE HOMES.
9:43:04AM I NEVER MADE THAT MUCH MONEY IN MY ENTIRE FRICKING LIFE IN
9:43:09AM ONE YEAR.
9:43:10AM THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
9:43:12AM I'M FLABBERGASTED THAT WE'LL GIVE UP DECENT SIZE LOTS AND
9:43:16AM BUILD ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON IT.
9:43:20AM WE TALK ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE.
9:43:21AM WE TALK ABOUT GENERATIONAL WEALTH, BUT THESE SHOULD BE GOING
9:43:25AM TO FOLKS IN THE 80th PERCENTILE AT LEAST.
9:43:28AM PEOPLE MAKING $59,000 A YEAR AS ONE PERSON OR $83,000 A YEAR
9:43:33AM FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR.
9:43:35AM WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS.
9:43:36AM I'M WONDERING WHY WE'RE GIVING AWAY THE MONEY IF WE CAN'T
9:43:39AM FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO BETTER WITH WHAT RESULT IN FOR THE
9:43:43AM PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MOST IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:43:45AM 140% AMI IS MARKET RATE.
9:43:49AM STOP IT.
9:43:50AM NUMBER 45, WE'RE GIVING A 7.7% RAISE TO OUR STAFFING FOR
9:43:55AM MOBILITY SERVICES.
9:43:57AM I HOPE THAT THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN THERE, THE CONTRACT IS AS
9:44:01AM LONG AS MY ARM THAT WE ENSURE AT LEAST 3% IS GOING TO THE
9:44:06AM EMPLOYEES AND NOT ALL PUT IN THE POCKET EVERYBODY ELSE ABOUT
9:44:09AM A 3% PRICE INDEX INCREASE.
9:44:11AM NUMBER 72, LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE PEOPLE
9:44:16AM WHO OWN THEIR HOUSES AS OF SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR WHEN THE
9:44:19AM HURRICANES HIT, WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP OFFSET THE FEES THAT
9:44:22AM THEY HAVE FOR SOMETHING ELSE --
9:44:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
9:44:26AM CONNIE BURTON, FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
9:44:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:44:32AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:44:35AM STEPHANIE TOOK UP MOST OF WHAT I WANT TO SAY.
9:44:40AM FOCUSING ON ITEM NUMBER 3 AND 4, WHICH IS THE MAYOR'S
9:44:45AM PREROGATIVE TO DO WHAT SHE DO, I WAS JUST DOWNTOWN THE OTHER
9:44:50AM DAY AND LOOKING AT THE KRESS BUILDING.
9:44:53AM ABANDONED FOR YEARS.
9:44:54AM PROBABLY WON'T EVER BE TOUCHED.
9:44:56AM PEOPLE CAN CHEER AND HOLLER ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS GOING
9:45:00AM ON IN PUBLIC HOUSING, ROBLES PARK.
9:45:05AM MANY OF THOSE RESIDENTS WON'T RETURN.
9:45:10AM YOU GO RIGHT NOW TO THE ENCORE, WHERE THEY TOOK PUBLIC
9:45:15AM HOUSING PROPERTY AND BUILD IN A HOTEL, I DON'T KNOW PROBABLY
9:45:18AM THE WORKERS WOULD BE SOME OF THE FORMER RESIDENTS, BUT I
9:45:22AM CAN'T SEE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO LIVE UP THERE, RENT UP THERE
9:45:27AM TO ENJOY THAT.
9:45:28AM YOU GO RIGHT THERE ON RAY CHARLES BOULEVARD WHERE THEY GIVE
9:45:31AM THE GREAT SPEECHES OF HOW THIS REDEVELOPMENT IS HELPING POOR
9:45:35AM PEOPLE, THEY HAVE AN ANSWER CORE DAY CARE CENTER.
9:45:38AM IT'S ADVERTISED AS THAT, BUT DEAD EMPTY.
9:45:43AM NOT A CHILD IN SIGHT.
9:45:44AM NOT A CHILD IN SIGHT.
9:45:45AM GO OVER THERE AND LOOK AT IT.
9:45:47AM 1107 RAY CHARLES BOULEVARD.
9:45:49AM SO ALL OF THIS STUFF, ALL THIS APPOINTMENT OF THESE PEOPLE
9:45:52AM TO THE BOARD, WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THEM TO COME TO THIS
9:45:56AM PODIUM TO TELL YOU WHAT ARE THEY DOING, REALISTIC, HOME
9:46:03AM OWNERSHIP FOR POOR PEOPLE.
9:46:04AM WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH THEY
9:46:07AM HAVE BEEN BUSTED OUT AND PUSHED OUT INTO THE SUBURBS, INTO
9:46:11AM THE COUNTY, HOW HAVE THEIR LIVES IMPROVED?
9:46:14AM THE ONLY THING THAT HAS HAPPENED IS OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF
9:46:18AM MIND.
9:46:18AM ITEM NUMBER 41, 42, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN'T SAY ANYMORE, THE
9:46:23AM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IS WHERE THESE LLCs GETTING THE
9:46:28AM PROPERTIES FOR FREE.
9:46:30AM YOU ELEVATE THEM.
9:46:31AM BUT THEN THEY COME BACK AND SELL IT AS IF THEY ARE SOME REAL
9:46:36AM BROKERS.
9:46:37AM NOW WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE AGREEMENT, THEY CAN SELL IT OR
9:46:41AM RENT BECAUSE MORE POOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WON'T BE ABLE
9:46:46AM TO BUY AT THIS PRICE.
9:46:48AM YOU ALL KNOW IT.
9:46:49AM YOU ALL KNOW IT.
9:46:50AM BUT IF IT MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD SAYING THAT YOU ARE GIVING
9:46:54AM MONEY BACK IN SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES, YOU ARE REACHING
9:46:58AM OUT TO SOME OF THE MOSTLY AFRICAN NONPROFITS THAT ARE
9:47:02AM SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING CARE OF POOR PEOPLE.
9:47:05AM IT IS ALL B.S.
9:47:07AM IT HAS NOT HELPED THE MASSES OF THE PEOPLE.
9:47:10AM IT HAS NOT CHANGED THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OF OUR PEOPLE.
9:47:13AM AND YOU CAN PUT ALL THIS STUFF ON YOUR BROCHURES AS YOU MOVE
9:47:16AM UP POLITICALLY.
9:47:18AM THE PEOPLE ARE HERE TO WILL HE MIND YOU.
9:47:20AM IT IS NOT WORKING.
9:47:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.
9:47:22AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY VALERIE BULLOCK.
9:47:38AM >> HI.
9:47:38AM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
9:47:40AM ITEM 72 IS TO ALLOW HURRICANE VICTIMS TO PAY THE OLD
9:47:44AM SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE.
9:47:46AM ANYONE WHO APPLIED BEFORE THE FEE WAS RAISED ON APRIL 17 IS
9:47:49AM ALREADY EXEMPT FROM THE HIGHER FEE, AND THAT IS SIX MONTHS
9:47:53AM AFTER HURRICANE MILTON.
9:47:54AM SO IT PROBABLY APPLIES TO MOST PEOPLE WHO STILL OWN THEIR
9:47:57AM HURRICANE DAMAGED HOME.
9:47:59AM MAYBE SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.
9:48:00AM AFTER THE HURRICANES, THE CITY WAIVED PERMIT FEES FOR MONTHS
9:48:05AM TO HELP OUT HURRICANE IMPACTED RESIDENTS, BUT THEY DID NOT
9:48:10AM WAIVE THE PERMIT FEES FOREVER.
9:48:12AM THERE WAS AN END DATE.
9:48:13AM BUT EVEN SO, THIS PROPOSAL IS OKAY WITH ME UNDER TWO
9:48:17AM CONDITIONS.
9:48:17AM ONE, IT MUST BE FOR THE PERSON WHO LIVED IN THE HOUSE DURING
9:48:20AM THE HURRICANE, NOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BOUGHT OUT THE OLD
9:48:24AM HOMEOWNERS.
9:48:24AM TWO, MUST BE A LEGITIMATE OBSTACLE LIKE TREE OR DITCH, NOT
9:48:28AM BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT A SIDEWALK OR NO CONNECTING
9:48:31AM SIDEWALK.
9:48:32AM REMEMBER, NO ONE HAS TO PAY THIS FEE.
9:48:34AM THEY CAN BUILD A SIDEWALK.
9:48:35AM WHEN WE AMENDED THE CODE IN 2021, THE NO SIDEWALK EXCUSE WAS
9:48:40AM SUPPOSED TO BE ELIMINATED.
9:48:42AM THOSE ARE THE PLACES THAT NEED THEM THE MOST.
9:48:44AM BUT WE WERE TOLD IT NEEDED TO STAY FOR SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES
9:48:47AM AND WOULD BE RARELY USED.
9:48:49AM INSTEAD, THE EXACT OPPOSITE HAS HAPPENED.
9:48:52AM REASON NUMBER ONE, FOUR REASONS, REASON NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN
9:48:55AM USED MORE THAN ALL THE OTHER THREE REASONS COMBINED.
9:48:59AM YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGES PER YEAR OF REASON NUMBER ONE
9:49:03AM BEING USED.
9:49:05AM BUILDERS ARE EXPLOITING THIS EXEMPTION TO INCREASE THEIR
9:49:10AM PROFITS.
9:49:11AM THE BUILDER OF THIS HOUSE IS ALLOWED TO PAY THE OLD FEE
9:49:14AM INSTEAD OF BUILDING SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK.
9:49:17AM THIS IS OVER $3 MILLION HOUSE.
9:49:20AM THEY COULD AFFORD TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS.
9:49:22AM THEY JUST DID IT TO PUT A LITTLE MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET.
9:49:25AM THE SAME FOR THIS HOUSE.
9:49:26AM THEY SAY THEY SHOULD PAY THE FEE INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN A
9:49:29AM SIDEWALK BECAUSE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, UNLIKELY THERE WILL BE
9:49:33AM ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT NEARBY.
9:49:34AM THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:49:35AM THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR IS OLD.
9:49:37AM LIVED IN BY AN ELDERLY PERSON.
9:49:39AM COVERED IN VINES.
9:49:40AM GOING TO BE SOLD SOON AND REDEVELOPED.
9:49:43AM THIS IS A MAP OF THE VIRGINIA PARK PIPES PROJECT.
9:49:49AM THE GREEN IS ALL THE INFILL SIDEWALK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
9:49:52AM BUILT TO CLOSE THE GAPS.
9:49:54AM AND A LOT OF THE BLUE ACTUALLY, THERE'S GREEN NEXT TO IT OR
9:49:57AM BEHIND IT, BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT.
9:50:01AM THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS MANY GAPS.
9:50:03AM IF THE BUILDERS HAD BUILT SIDEWALKS INSTEAD OF ABUSING THE
9:50:06AM LOOPHOLES, WE COULD DO MORE WITH OUR MONEY AND SPREAD IT
9:50:09AM FARTHER.
9:50:11AM THOSE GAPS ARE GOING TO BE FILLED WITH THE ALL FOR
9:50:13AM TRANSPORTATION MONEY.
9:50:14AM WE DIDN'T GET IT SO IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
9:50:16AM WE STILL HAVE THAT GOAL AND THINK OF HOW MUCH FARTHER OUR
9:50:18AM MONEY CAN GO IF THERE'S LESS GAPS SO THAT WHEN WE FINALLY
9:50:23AM GET TO DO IT, IT CAN GO ALL AROUND SCHOOLS AND PLACES THAT
9:50:29AM REALLY NEED IT.
9:50:30AM I'M FINE WITH APPROVING THIS ALLOWANCE IF YOU MEET THE TWO
9:50:33AM CONDITIONS I OUTLINED.
9:50:35AM REMEMBER, NO ONE HAS TO PAY THE FEE.
9:50:37AM THEY CAN JUST BUILD A SIDEWALK AND THE I DON'T WANT A
9:50:41AM SIDEWALK IS REALLY NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR
9:50:43AM COMMUNITY.
9:50:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. BENNETT.
9:50:45AM VALERIE BULLOCK, FOLLOWED BY CHARLIE ADAMS.
9:50:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:50:51AM VALERIE BULLOCK.
9:50:53AM I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING THAT ONE OF YOU ALL HAD
9:50:57AM APPOINTED DIANE ZIEGLER TO THE CRA BOARD.
9:51:01AM I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING THAT SHE TOLD ME ON Facebook.
9:51:05AM I TOLD HER THAT SHE WAS A PROBLEM AND THE WORDS SHE SAY SHE
9:51:10AM HEARD EAST TAMPA PEOPLE, AND SHE DIDN'T LIKE US, SHE
9:51:13AM SHOULDN'T HAVE MOVED OVER THERE.
9:51:15AM WHEN I SAID US, I MEANT BLACK POOR PEOPLE.
9:51:17AM THIS IS WHAT SHE SAID.
9:51:18AM NO, VALERIE, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS HURT EAST TAMPA.
9:51:22AM IT WASN'T ON MY WATCH THAT ALL THOSE HUNDREDS OF NEGLECTED
9:51:26AM HOMES IN THE HANDS OF SO-CALLED HOMEOWNERS ENDED IN SUCH
9:51:30AM DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS AND NEED TO BE ON LIFE SUPPORT
9:51:34AM SURVIVING ONLY WITH TAX FUNDING.
9:51:36AM NOT MY WATCH THAT YOUR EAST TAMPA PONDS ENDED LOOKING LIKE
9:51:42AM DUMPS AND NOT MY DEAL THAT PEOPLE DUMP THEIR FREE LUNCHES
9:51:46AM RIGHT IN THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, BUT WE CLEAN UP
9:51:50AM THE HOOD EVERY DAY AND ALL IN TEN GALLONS OF TRASH.
9:51:54AM THAT'S 70 GALLONS A WEEK.
9:51:57AM I NEVER SEE YOUR FACE OUT THERE CLEANING UP THE
9:52:00AM NEIGHBORHOOD, SO YOU MUST BE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
9:52:03AM THE BEST THING HAPPENING IS THAT PEOPLE WITH MORE SKILLS AND
9:52:07AM TALENT ARE MOVING IN RESTORING SANITY, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU
9:52:12AM RESENT.
9:52:13AM SOMEBODY PUT ON THE EAST TAMPA CRA BOARD AND SHE HAS VIEWS
9:52:17AM LIKE THAT.
9:52:18AM I'M ASKING YOU, ARE THOSE YOUR VIEWS ALSO?
9:52:22AM BECAUSE WHAT SHE SAID WAS VERY DEROGATORY.
9:52:25AM THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME SHE SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
9:52:28AM WHEN I POST ON Facebook, WE GO BACK AND FORTH.
9:52:31AM HER Facebook NAME IS -- WOODS.
9:52:35AM ONE TIME SHE TOLD ME I WANT TO LIVE IN -- WHATEVER THAT
9:52:40AM MEANS BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD THAT WORD BEFORE.
9:52:42AM MY HOUSE LOOK JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE'S HOUSES ON HARBOUR
9:52:45AM ISLAND.
9:52:47AM I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 3 AND 4.
9:52:50AM THE PEOPLE BEING APPOINTED TO TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
9:52:53AM HAVE THEY BEEN VETTED?
9:52:54AM HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO COULD FIT THAT SLOT
9:52:59AM MORE BETTER?
9:53:00AM WHEN I SEE, THE MAYOR APPOINTS SOMEBODY TO TAMPA HOUSING
9:53:02AM AUTHORITY, WE DON'T LOOK AT THEM.
9:53:05AM SHE SAID SHE WANT THEM AND IT'S RUBBER STAMPED AND STAY
9:53:08AM THERE AND RETIRE THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.
9:53:11AM THEY ARE SO DETACHED FROM POOR WORKING PEOPLE AND WHAT'S
9:53:14AM GOING ON IN TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTY IT'S JUST
9:53:19AM RIDICULOUS.
9:53:20AM IF THE PERSON GO UP THERE AND THEY DON'T -- JUST BECAUSE SHE
9:53:23AM APPOINT THEM AND THEY WANT THE MONEY, IF THEY CAN'T DO THEIR
9:53:26AM JOB, THEY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.
9:53:28AM I'M AGAINST THE INFILL LOTS, GETTING MONEY FROM CRA TO BE AT
9:53:32AM THE HOUSES.
9:53:33AM THEY WANT TO BUILD THEM FOR 140% AMI, NOW THEY ARE GOING TO
9:53:36AM GET GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
9:53:38AM IF THE CITY GIVES THEM THE LOT AND THE CRA GIVES THEM THE
9:53:42AM MONEY TO BUY IT, WE NEED TO PUT SOME LIMITATIONS AND MAKE
9:53:45AM THEM SIGN CONTRACTS.
9:53:46AM 140% AMI.
9:53:49AM THAT IS TOO MUCH.
9:53:50AM THEY CAN BUILD TWO HOUSES, THEY ARE TOWN HOUSES.
9:53:53AM WE NEED DENSITY THERE.
9:53:55AM THEY WANT TO PUT IT EVERYWHERE ELSE.
9:53:56AM LET'S PUT IT THERE AND THEN YOU SERVE TWO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF
9:53:59AM ONE.
9:54:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. BULLOCK.
9:54:05AM WE HAVE CHARLIE ADAMS AND THAT IS THE LAST SPEAKER I HAVE ON
9:54:08AM MY LIST.
9:54:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:54:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID YOU SIGN A CARD?
9:54:11AM I WILL SEEK THAT OUT.
9:54:13AM THANK YOU.
9:54:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:54:15AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS MORNING.
9:54:18AM I WASN'T AVAILABLE.
9:54:20AM CHARLIE ADAMS, REPRESENTATIVE OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.
9:54:23AM I WASN'T HERE TO SPEAK JUST LAST TUESDAY IN REGARDS TO A FEW
9:54:30AM ITEMS SPOKE ON FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
9:54:34AM I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND PAYING
9:54:39AM ATTENTION TO THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE
9:54:41AM THAT WE'RE NOT FORGOTTEN.
9:54:45AM MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I REALLY
9:54:49AM APPRECIATE YOU TAKING ACTION.
9:54:55AM MANISCALCO, CARLSON, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:54:58AM CHARLIE MIRANDA, YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL.
9:55:01AM 1925, SEPTEMBER 1925, JOE SIRE RICHARDSON, A VISIONARY THAT
9:55:10AM CAME TO THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY AND ENVISIONED A
9:55:14AM TOURIST ATTRACTION THAT BROUGHT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE
9:55:17AM WORLD.
9:55:20AM SEEN SOMETHING UNIQUE AND ADDED VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY AND
9:55:24AM ADDED VALUE TO TAMPA.
9:55:26AM NEARLY A HUNDRED YEARS LATER AND NOW WE'RE TAKING ACTION TO
9:55:32AM -- WE MAY NOT SEE WHAT IT ONCE WAS, HOPEFULLY SOMETHING EVEN
9:55:36AM MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN THE PAST.
9:55:39AM MY FAMILY IS FROM SPRINGHILL.
9:55:42AM THE ORIGINAL SPRINGHILL.
9:55:44AM AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS BETWEEN WATERS
9:55:47AM AVENUE AND BUSCH BOULEVARD.
9:55:50AM MY GRANDFATHER WOULD TELL ME STORIES ABOUT HOW HIS MOTHER
9:55:55AM WOULD HAVE TO HAVE PASSES IN ORDER TO CROSS WATERS IN ORDER
9:55:59AM TO GET TO SULPHUR SPRINGS TO WORK.
9:56:00AM HE ALSO TOLD ME STORIES ABOUT HOW HE WOULD HAVE TO EITHER GO
9:56:05AM -- IN ORDER TO SWIM IN A NATURAL SPRING, HAVE TO EITHER GO
9:56:09AM BEFORE THE SPRING OPENED OR AFTER BECAUSE IT WAS WHITES
9:56:12AM ONLY.
9:56:13AM CALLED BLOODY SUNDAYS.
9:56:16AM WHOEVER WON THE FIGHT THAT DAY, THAT'S WHO WOULD SWIM AND IT
9:56:19AM WOULD GO BACK AND FORTH.
9:56:23AM IT WAS A THRIVING COMMUNITY.
9:56:26AM ECONOMIC BOON THAT WAS HAPPENING DURING THE '20s AND INTO
9:56:30AM THE 1930s, UNTIL THE TREASURE COAST HURRICANE CAME AND
9:56:34AM FLOODED THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY.
9:56:37AM MY FAMILY AT THE TIME AND MANY OTHER THOUSANDS OF BLACKS
9:56:40AM FROM THE AREA, 1920s, '30s, DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE
9:56:48AM CAPITAL.
9:56:49AM I ASK AS REDEVELOPMENT COME, CHANGE COME, THAT WE PRIORITIZE
9:56:52AM THE MINORITY COMMUNITIES IN REGARDS TO JOB CREATION AND
9:56:56AM ENTREPRENEURSHIP, ACCESS TO CAPITAL SO THAT WE CAN TAKE PART
9:57:00AM OF CHANGING OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE TAKE PART OF BEING PART
9:57:04AM OF REDEVELOPING AND GROWING OUR COMMUNITY.
9:57:06AM SO AS CONTRACTORS AND DEVELOPERS ARE AWARDED THESE
9:57:09AM CONTRACTS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY PRIORITIZE HIGHER WITHIN THE
9:57:14AM SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY.
9:57:15AM THANK YOU.
9:57:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHARLIE.
9:57:17AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:57:18AM IF YOU WOULD START WITH YOUR NAME.
9:57:20AM GO AHEAD.
9:57:21AM I DON'T HAVE YOUR CARD, BUT WE'LL FIND IT.
9:57:26AM >> HELLO.
9:57:27AM MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
9:57:28AM I WILL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
9:57:31AM I'M GOING TO START WITH ADAM.
9:57:33AM HE WAS LYNCHED DECEMBER 16, 1859.
9:57:38AM TO MY RECOLLECTION, THAT IS THE EARLIEST ONE I COULD FIND.
9:57:44AM HIS CASE WAS APPEALED.
9:57:47AM HE WAS DEFENDED -- O.B. HART DEFENDED HIS CASE.
9:57:54AM WHEN HE DEFENDED THE CASE, HE WENT TO GET AN APPEAL.
9:57:57AM WHILE OUT GETTING THE APPEAL, A MOB STORMED THE JAIL,
9:58:01AM REMOVED ADAM AS WELL AS A WHITE MAN WHO WAS SCHEDULED TO BE
9:58:05AM LYNCHED AND THEY BOTH WERE LYNCHED ON THE EDGE OF THE SCRUB.
9:58:09AM HERE IS THE ARTICLE DESCRIBING IT.
9:58:11AM MAN BY THE NAME OF LUKE MOORE WAS KILLED -- WAS ALLEGEDLY
9:58:15AM MURDERED BY ADAM.
9:58:17AM AT THE TIME, A MAN JOHN BROWN UP IN HARPERS FERRY WAS TRYING
9:58:23AM TO START A RAID WITH ENSLAVED PEOPLE AND THEY LYNCHED HIM AS
9:58:28AM WELL.
9:58:28AM THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA WERE KIND OF IN A BIT OF AN UPROAR AND
9:58:33AM DID NOT WANT ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED HERE.
9:58:36AM HE WAS LYNCHED DECEMBER 2 AND ADAM DECEMBER 16.
9:58:39AM HERE IS AN ARTICLE TALKING ABOUT HIM BEING LYNCHED THE DAY
9:58:42AM BEFORE ALONG WITH A WHITE MAN, GEORGE BUCKLEY AND THEN THE
9:58:46AM FINAL ARTICLE IS ABOUT A MAN COMING BACK TO TAMPA, GIVING AN
9:58:53AM ACCOUNT ABOUT THE MAN LYNCHED NEAR THE SCRUB.
9:58:56AM HERE IS A SLIDE ABOUT THE TOWN OF TAMPA, HOW IT WAS FIRST
9:59:01AM CREATED.
9:59:02AM TAMPA AT THE TIME OF ADAM'S LYNCHING WAS ONLY TEN YEARS OLD.
9:59:07AM VILLAGE OF TAMPA STARTED IN 1849 AFTER A GREAT GALE CAME TO
9:59:12AM TAMPA, WHICH WAS A HURRICANE.
9:59:13AM THEY DECIDED TO TURN INTO A VILLAGE BECAUSE ALL THE LAWS
9:59:17AM WERE CREATED BASED OFF THE COUNTY.
9:59:18AM ALL OF THE CATTLE, IT WAS A CATTLE INDUSTRY.
9:59:21AM THEY WERE LIKE WE NEED TO CREATE OUR OWN LITTLE THING.
9:59:24AM THEY STARTED THE VILLAGE OF TAMPA 1849.
9:59:27AM REINCORPORATED IN 1855.
9:59:29AM SAME YEAR 1855, COURTHOUSE WAS CREATED.
9:59:32AM THIS IS A COURTHOUSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET
9:59:36AM FROM US, ACROSS KENNEDY.
9:59:38AM LAFAYETTE FORMALLY NAMED KENNEDY.
9:59:42AM NOW IT IS THE LOCATION OF THE POLICE STATION, THE BIG BLUE
9:59:44AM BUILDING.
9:59:45AM WHAT ALSO HAPPENED AT THE COURTHOUSE WERE SLAVE OPTIONS.
9:59:49AM THESE ARE SOME SLAVE OPTIONS -- SORRY, SOME ARTICLES ABOUT
9:59:56AM SLAVE AUCTIONS THAT TOOK PLACE IN TAMPA.
9:59:58AM PUBLIC OUTCRY IN THE FRONT OF THE COURTHOUSE IN TAMPA
10:00:03AM HIGHLIGHTED IN ALL THOSE ARTICLES.
10:00:06AM THEN WE GET TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE DURING THAT TIME IN
10:00:09AM THE SLAVE CENSUS.
10:00:11AM SOME OF THEIR NAMES ARE STILL ON THINGS TODAY.
10:00:13AM WE HAVE HOOKERS LAKE, ALSO HOOKER'S POINTE, LAKE HOOKER.
10:00:17AM YOU HAVE ROBERT GAMBLE WHO HAS A PLANTATION NEAR ELLENTON
10:00:21AM MALL.
10:00:22AM SIMEON L. SPARKMAN, THE UNCLE OF STEPHEN SPARKMAN WHARF
10:00:28AM NAMED AFTER, JAMES McKAY, MCKAY BAY, WILLIAM ASHLEY, WHICH
10:00:33AM HE HAS A LOVE STORY.
10:00:35AM I SAY THAT WITH RABBIT EARS.
10:00:41AM LOVE STORY, OAKLAWN CEMETERY.
10:00:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:00:44AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:00:46AM THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS BOARD AND ADMINISTRATIVE
10:00:48AM APPOINTMENTS.
10:00:48AM IS SUL HEMANI IN THE HOUSE?
10:00:51AM HOW ABOUT THOMAS MURPHY?
10:00:55AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:00:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOOKED FOR ANYTHING ABOUT SUL HEMANI.
10:01:07AM ALL IT WAS WAS A RECONSIDERATION.
10:01:12AM THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WASN'T THERE.
10:01:13AM ALL I COULD FIND FOR THE PERSON IS THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE
10:01:16AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:01:17AM THEREFORE I CAN'T SUPPORT THEM.
10:01:22AM >> I WILL RESCIND MY MOTION ON THAT ONE.
10:01:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN CONTINUE IT.
10:01:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE CONTINUE IT TO GIVE A CHANCE FOR
10:01:31AM THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE WHATEVER BACKGROUND AND
10:01:35AM MAYBE --
10:01:37AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:01:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ISSUE, THOUGH, STILL, IS THAT IT IS TAMPA
10:01:41AM HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND WE NEED PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:01:45AM AND THIS PERSON, ACCORDING TO THEIR ADDRESS, LIVES IN LIKE
10:01:48AM TOWN N' COUNTRY.
10:01:50AM THAT'S JUST, AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPABLE PEOPLE IN THE
10:01:54AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:01:54AM I KNOW SOME OF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME ON BOARDS AND
10:01:57AM COMMISSIONS, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE WHO -- I JUST
10:02:01AM SIMPLY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT
10:02:05AM LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, JUST BY VIRTUE THAT THEY DON'T
10:02:07AM LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:02:09AM HOUSING IS A CRITICAL, CRITICAL PART OF OUR CITY, AND IT IS
10:02:13AM WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING OF THE TOP THREE THINGS, TWO OF THEM
10:02:17AM INVOLVE HOUSING.
10:02:18AM THEY SHOULD BE SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:02:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:02:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:23AM WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE CONTINUE THIS TO ANOTHER TIME.
10:02:27AM MY POSITION ON THAT IS, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE WHERE
10:02:29AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIVE IN THE
10:02:32AM CITY, THERE IS A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT SHOULD BE
10:02:36AM APPLIED FOR THAT.
10:02:37AM I CALL THAT THE JOE GRECO RULE.
10:02:39AM I'M JOKING.
10:02:40AM BUT THERE IS A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT SHOULD BE
10:02:42AM APPLIED AND I'M FINE WITH THAT.
10:02:44AM IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT TO ANOTHER TIME TO INQUIRE
10:02:48AM FURTHER, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
10:02:50AM I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
10:02:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:02:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M JUST GOING TO -- IT DOESN'T MATTER FOR
10:02:59AM ME.
10:02:59AM I'M GOING TO VOTE NO.
10:03:00AM IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO CONTINUE IT, THAT'S FINE.
10:03:03AM MY VOTE WILL STILL BE NO.
10:03:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:03:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN ORDER FOR ME TO BE HUNDRED PERCENT
10:03:09AM SURE WHAT'S GOING ON, NOT SAYING SOMETHING IS WRONG OR
10:03:12AM RIGHT, THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER
10:03:17AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AT LEAST I WANT TO GIVE THESE TWO
10:03:19AM INDIVIDUALS A CHANCE TO COME HERE AND TELL US WHERE THEY
10:03:22AM LIVE.
10:03:22AM I'M NOT QUESTIONING COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AT ALL.
10:03:25AM MIGHT BE HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE
10:03:29AM THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE GIVEN ANY CHANCE.
10:03:31AM I DON'T KNOW THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS AT ALL.
10:03:34AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS TO WHY AND SO FORTH.
10:03:36AM I'M NOT QUESTIONING COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:03:39AM I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT FROM THEM.
10:03:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, FOLLOWED BY
10:03:43AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:03:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND ONE.
10:03:47AM ITEM NUMBER 4, HE HAD A FULL APPLICATION WHERE HE TALKED
10:03:52AM ABOUT -- THAT WAS A FULL APPLICATION.
10:03:54AM THE FIRST ONE WASN'T AND DOESN'T LIVE IN THE CITY.
10:03:57AM THE SECOND PERSON DOES LIVE IN THE CITY AND HAD A FULL
10:04:00AM APPLICATION.
10:04:02AM NUMBER FOUR, THOMAS MURPHY LIVES IN THE CITY, VERY ACTIVE IN
10:04:05AM THE CAC OF CENTRAL PARK.
10:04:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
10:04:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THOMAS MURPHY IS A GREAT ADDITION.
10:04:13AM AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND AND WE ASKED FOR THIS
10:04:15AM BEFORE, THAT IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS TRYING TO BE
10:04:17AM REAPPOINTED, THAT THEIR ORIGINAL APPLICATION COME ON.
10:04:21AM IT WASN'T THERE.
10:04:22AM AGAIN, BUT FOR ME, IT'S JUST THE PERSON NOT LIVING IN THE
10:04:25AM CITY.
10:04:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:04:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST, I WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH YOU LIVING
10:04:30AM IN THE CITY, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
10:04:32AM ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT THE PERSON USED THEIR WORK ADDRESS
10:04:35AM INSTEAD OF HOME ADDRESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD
10:04:38AM RATHER CONTINUE IT AND THEN LOOK AT IT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
10:04:42AM DID SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION?
10:04:43AM I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT.
10:04:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULD WE LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
10:04:50AM CONTINUE ITEM 3 TO OCTOBER 23rd?
10:04:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
10:04:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:04:56AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO CONTINUE ITEM 3 TO OCTOBER
10:04:58AM 23.
10:04:59AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:05:00AM OPPOSED?
10:05:00AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:05:08AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:05:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONTINUING NUMBER 3.
10:05:14AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:05:26AM PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:05:27AM ITEM NUMBER 4.
10:05:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MOVE THE RESOLUTION, LIKE I SAID, I READ
10:05:31AM HIS APPLICATION, THOMAS MURPHY HAS COME IN FRONT OF US AS A
10:05:35AM CAC MEMBER.
10:05:35AM THAT IS AN AREA THAT DOES A LOT WITH TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY
10:05:39AM ALREADY BECAUSE ENCORE AND CENTRAL PARK IS MOSTLY TAMPA
10:05:43AM HOUSING AUTHORITY LAND.
10:05:45AM SO I DO SUPPORT HIS NOMINATION.
10:05:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND
10:05:49AM FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:05:50AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:05:52AM OPPOSED?
10:05:52AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:05:53AM THANK YOU.
10:05:54AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:05:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO I WAS GOING TO MOVE CONSENT.
10:05:57AM I WAS GETTING READY.
10:06:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR
10:06:02AM RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
10:06:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S TRUE.
10:06:05AM ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR BOARDS AND
10:06:09AM ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS.
10:06:10AM OH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:06:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL MOVE TO CONSENT ITEMS.
10:06:19AM ITEMS 5-10.
10:06:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE 5-10.
10:06:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:06:24AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:06:25AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:06:26AM OPPOSED?
10:06:26AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:06:29AM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN
10:06:30AM HURTAK.
10:06:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 11 THROUGH 18.
10:06:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND
10:06:36AM FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:06:37AM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
10:06:39AM OPPOSED?
10:06:39AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:06:41AM INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, 19 THROUGH
10:06:43AM 25.
10:06:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE ITEMS 19 THROUGH 25.
10:06:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:06:48AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:06:49AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:06:50AM OPPOSED?
10:06:51AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:06:52AM THANK YOU.
10:06:52AM FINANCE COMMITTEE, 26 THROUGH 29.
10:06:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 26 THROUGH 29.
10:06:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM
10:06:58AM MANISCALCO.
10:06:58AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:06:59AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:07:00AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE, 30-44.
10:07:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE 30-44.
10:07:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I DO NOT DISAGREE
10:07:11AM WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE
10:07:14AM FACT OF THE INFILL LOTS.
10:07:17AM NOT ALL OF THESE INFILL LOTS ARE SINGLE-FAMILY.
10:07:20AM WE ARE WORKING -- QUITE A FEW OF THESE ARE MULTIFAMILY.
10:07:23AM I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE WORKED HARD TO
10:07:28AM SEE THAT THE INFILL LOTS FOR THE INFILL PHASE THREE DO HAVE
10:07:34AM MULTIFAMILY ON THEM.
10:07:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:07:36AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:07:39AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:07:40AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
10:07:42AM OPPOSED?
10:07:42AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:07:43AM WE ARE AT 45 THROUGH 47.
10:07:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 45 THROUGH 47.
10:07:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:07:55AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:07:56AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:07:57AM OPPOSED?
10:07:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT, I DID ASK
10:08:02AM ABOUT TEMPORARY LABOR FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
10:08:05AM I DID ASK ABOUT IF WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING OUR STORMWATER
10:08:09AM PEOPLE OFF OF SETTING UP.
10:08:11AM I'M TOLD THAT THEY ARE STILL DISCUSSING THAT.
10:08:14AM SO WE NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.
10:08:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID WE VOTE ON THAT?
10:08:20AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
10:08:24AM OPPOSED?
10:08:24AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:08:26AM NOW WE HAVE OUR WALK-ON ITEM.
10:08:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK YOU -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I THINK
10:08:32AM YOU OUGHT TO MAKE A MOTION IN NEW BUSINESS THAT WOULD ASK
10:08:35AM THE ADMINISTRATION TO REMOVE THAT.
10:08:37AM IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS STILL CONSIDERING WHETHER THEY
10:08:39AM SHOULD USE STORMWATER MONEY FOR PARADES, WE NEED TO MAKE A
10:08:44AM MOTION.
10:08:45AM MIGHT NOT BE BINDING BUT AT LEAST MAKE A MOTION OF THE
10:08:48AM INTENTION.
10:08:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW.
10:08:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN MAKE A REQUEST.
10:08:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE A SUGGESTION.
10:08:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN'T FORCE THEM BUT WE CAN MAKE A
10:08:59AM REQUEST.
10:09:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
10:09:01AM WALK-ON.
10:09:02AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:09:05AM THIS IS JUST A REQUEST TO WALK ON A RESOLUTION TO SET TWO
10:09:09AM PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR OCTOBER 9 AND OCTOBER 23 REGARDING A
10:09:13AM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND TAMPA BAY WHEEL
10:09:17AM BECAUSE OF SOME CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, TAMPA BAY WHEEL
10:09:20AM HAD, WE NEED TO SPEED UP THE DEADLINE.
10:09:23AM SO THIS WOULD GIVE US TIME FOR THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND THE
10:09:27AM REQUIRED TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:09:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:09:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO SET
10:09:34AM THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:09:35AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:09:38AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:09:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT FOR TRANSPARENCY, I UNDERSTAND
10:09:42AM WHY THEY ARE MOVING QUICKLY.
10:09:43AM I THINK FOR TRANSPARENCY, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED.
10:09:46AM SHOULDN'T BE A WALK-ON.
10:09:47AM WE'VE SAID IN THE PAST THAT WE DON'T LIKE WALK-ONS.
10:09:50AM WE DO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS
10:09:53AM SCHEDULE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE
10:09:56AM INPUT.
10:09:57AM BUT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A WALK ON.
10:09:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:10:00AM OPPOSED?
10:10:01AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:10:02AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:10:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
10:10:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
10:10:06AM WE WILL MISS YOU.
10:10:07AM WE WON'T MISS YOU.
10:10:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE 66, 67 AND 68.
10:10:23AM I WILL JUST SAY THAT I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR 66 AND 67
10:10:29AM BECAUSE IT'S MOVING MONEY FROM THE CRA TO THE WEST
10:10:32AM RIVERWALK, AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS AT
10:10:37AM ALL.
10:10:38AM I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THEM.
10:10:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: AND I AGREE.
10:10:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
10:10:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU WANT THIS DISCUSSION NOW?
10:10:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE NOTHING TO DISCUSS.
10:10:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT TO HOLD THE ITEMS UNTIL
10:11:00AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO --
10:11:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL HOLD IT.
10:11:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MOVE ITEM 68 BECAUSE WE ALREADY APPROVED
10:11:04AM THAT AS CRA BOARD.
10:11:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:11:10AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:11:11AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:11:13AM OPPOSED?
10:11:13AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:11:14AM CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10:00 HEARINGS?
10:11:20AM MOTION TO OPEN 10:00 HEARINGS FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:11:28AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:11:29AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:11:30AM ITEM 48.
10:11:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT I
10:11:40AM BROUGHT FORTH ESTABLISHING THE CHARTER IT REVIEW PROCESS
10:11:44AM COMMENCING WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CHARTER REVIEW
10:11:48AM BOARD.
10:11:49AM IT'S HERE FOR YOUR ADOPTION.
10:11:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 48?
>>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN DURING NEW BUSINESS?
>>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT SHOULD HAPPEN DURING NEW BUSINESS.
IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
>>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
>>BILL CARLSON: I THOUGHT WE SCHEDULED THAT FOR ANOTHER
TIME, SCHEDULE FOR A WORKSHOP?
>>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
SO WE SHOULD ALL THINK ABOUT IT BETWEEN NOW AND NEW BUSINESS
AND FIGURE OUT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT IN NEW BUSINESS.
I THINK WE CAN THROW OUT SOME IDEAS DURING NEW BUSINESS AND
SET IT MAYBE FOR NEXT AGENDA FOR OLD BUSINESS JUST TO GET IT
DONE.
>>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE TO RESULT IN A
RESOLUTION BECAUSE YOU MADE AS A POLICY DECISION WHEN YOU
CHOSE THIS ORDINANCE TO PUT THE PROCESS IN PLACE BY
RESOLUTION.
SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE HIRING OF A FACILITATOR, THE
HIRING OF LEGAL AND SUPPORT STAFF AND THEN PROCESS TO --
>>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, CAN WE DEFER THIS CONVERSATION
TO NEW BUSINESS?
>>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
>>ALAN CLENDENIN: SUGGEST CHAIR PRO TEM CONSULT WITH
MR. SHELBY.
>>LYNN HURTAK: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
>>THE CLERK: YOU DO HAVE TWO ITEMS SET FOR OCTOBER 9.
-- [INAUDIBLE]
>>LYNN HURTAK: OH, OKAY.
THAT'S WHEN WE WERE GOING TO TALK.
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
SO WE DID SET SOMETHING.
OKAY.
WELL, THEN, YEAH.
THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
10:13:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:13:24AM APPRECIATE IT.
10:13:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
10:13:27AM TO ITEM 48?
10:13:28AM MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:13:31AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:13:32AM SECOND FROM HURTAK.
10:13:34AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:13:37AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:13:38AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:13:44AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:13:46AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:13:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:48AM ITEM NUMBER 49.
10:13:53AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION --
10:13:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ASK IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO
10:14:02AM SPEAK TO IT.
10:14:03AM BUT YOU DIDN'T READ IT.
10:14:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE E2025-8, CHAPTER 1, ORDINANCE BEING
10:14:09AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF
10:14:11AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE 2025 CITY OF
10:14:14AM TAMPA CHARTER REVIEW HAVE THEIR COMMISSION IN ACCORDANCE
10:14:19AM WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA HOME RULE CHARTER OF 1975 AS AMENDED,
10:14:23AM SECTION 10.10, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN
10:14:27AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:14:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE THE MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
10:14:29AM HURTAK.
10:14:30AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:14:31AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:14:32AM LOOKS LIKE RECORDED.
10:14:34AM WE'RE GOOD.
10:14:36AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:14:38AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:14:40AM ITEM 49.
10:14:41AM NOW WE'RE READY FOR YOU.
10:14:42AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:14:46AM VAC-24-13 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:14:51AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:14:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
10:14:53AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 49.
10:14:57AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:14:58AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:14:59AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:15:00AM OPPOSED?
10:15:00AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:15:02AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:15:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:15:05AM ITEM 49, VAC-24-13, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:15:09AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:15:11AM FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-95, PASSED AND
10:15:15AM ORDAINED ON SEPTEMBER 19, 2024, WHICH VACATED, CLOSED,
10:15:20AM DISCONTINUED AND ABANDONED THAT PORTION OF 4th AVENUE
10:15:22AM RIGHT-OF-WAY AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED BELOW TO EXTEND ONE
10:15:26AM YEAR REQUIREMENT TO SATISFY THE WATER SERVICE SPECIAL
10:15:28AM CONDITIONS BY 18 MONTHS, REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
10:15:33AM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:15:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:15:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:15:39AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:15:45AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:15:47AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:15:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:49AM OKAY.
10:15:53AM WE ARE AT 50.
10:15:56AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
10:15:58AM PRESENTING FILE VAC-25-16 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:16:02AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:16:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:16:05AM COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
10:16:06AM HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
10:16:09AM ITEM NUMBER 50?
10:16:10AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:16:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:16:14AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:16:18AM OPPOSED?
10:16:18AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:16:20AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:16:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 50, FILE VAC-25-16, ORDINANCE BEING
10:16:30AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF
10:16:33AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING,
10:16:35AM DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF ALCOLU AVENUE
10:16:40AM THAT IS LOCATED NORTH OF WHITEWAY DRIVE, SOUTH OF LIBERTY
10:16:44AM STREET, EAST OF 48th STREET AND WEST OF 50th STREET
10:16:47AM WITHIN THE REVISED PLAT OF TERRACE PARK UNIT 5 SUBDIVISION
10:16:51AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE
10:16:54AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO
10:16:57AM CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE
10:17:00AM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND
10:17:02AM PENALTIES, FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,
10:17:05AM INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
10:17:08AM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:17:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:17:11AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:17:13AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:17:19AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:17:21AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:17:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:17:23AM WE'RE MOVING TO THE 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS, SECOND READING ON
10:17:26AM PROPOSED ORDINANCES.
10:17:27AM ITEM 51 THROUGH 61.
10:17:29AM THEY ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:17:30AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS, PLEASE STAND, RAISE
10:17:33AM YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK.
10:17:36AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:17:49AM ITEM NUMBER 51.
10:17:51AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:17:52AM ITEM 51 IS REZ-25-40, THIS ITEM IS REZONING REQUEST FOR THE
10:17:57AM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2907 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD, 2910
10:18:02AM WEST BARCELONA STREET, UNITS 401 THROUGH 2303 AND FOLIO
10:18:09AM NUMBER 127264-8338.
10:18:12AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD
10:18:16AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR OFFICE, BUSINESS, AND PROFESSIONAL
10:18:19AM RETAIL RESTAURANT BAR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY HIGH-RISE AND
10:18:23AM SCHOOL USES.
10:18:24AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:18:27AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:18:29AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:18:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
10:18:31AM APPLICANT?
10:18:34AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:18:37AM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
10:18:40AM QUESTIONS.
10:18:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:18:42AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 51?
10:18:45AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:18:48AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:18:50AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
10:18:51AM OPPOSED?
10:18:51AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:18:53AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:18:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:18:55AM I'VE BEEN READY FOR A WHILE.
10:18:56AM JOKING.
10:18:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONLY REASON YOU CAME IN TODAY IS ITEM 51.
10:19:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS WHY I RAN FOR OFFICE.
10:19:04AM NO.
10:19:04AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
10:19:07AM ADOPTION.
10:19:07AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:19:09AM 2907 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD AND 2910 WEST BARCELONA
10:19:13AM STREET, UNITS 401 THROUGH 2303 AND FOLIO NUMBER 127264-8338
10:19:26AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
10:19:29AM 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
10:19:32AM TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS AND
10:19:35AM PROFESSIONAL, RETAIL, RESTAURANT/BAR, RESIDENTIAL,
10:19:38AM MULTIFAMILY, HIGH-RISE AND SCHOOL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:19:41AM DATE.
10:19:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:19:43AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:19:45AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:19:52AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:19:54AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:19:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:19:57AM ITEM 52.
10:19:59AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:20:01AM ITEM NUMBER 52 IS REZ-25-42.
10:20:05AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:20:08AM 2420 AND 2422 WEST STROUD AVENUE AND 1401 SOUTH LORENZO
10:20:15AM AVENUE.
10:20:15AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM 24, RESIDENTIAL
10:20:19AM MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL,
10:20:23AM SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED.
10:20:24AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:20:27AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:20:29AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:20:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:20:31AM APPLICANT.
10:20:33AM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
10:20:35AM RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:20:37AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:20:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:20:39AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 52.
10:20:44AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:20:45AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:20:47AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:20:48AM OPPOSED?
10:20:48AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:20:50AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:20:51AM SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:20:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ-25-42 -- REALLY WANT TO MOVE IT.
10:21:00AM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:21:03AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:21:05AM 2420 AND 2422 WEST STROUD AVENUE AND 1401 SOUTH LORENZO
10:21:11AM AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
10:21:14AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
10:21:17AM RM-24, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
10:21:22AM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:21:25AM DATE.
10:21:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:21:28AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:21:29AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:21:34AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:21:36AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:21:39AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:21:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM 53.
10:21:45AM >> SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:21:47AM AGENDA ITEM 53 IS REZ-25-49.
10:21:50AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:21:53AM 2425, 2525 AND 2601 NORTH ROCKY POINT DRIVE.
10:21:57AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24 AND
10:22:01AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR STOREFRONT
10:22:04AM RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL/OFFICE AND ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL
10:22:07AM USES AND RESTAURANT.
10:22:08AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:22:10AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:22:13AM CATE WELLS WITH LEGAL IS AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY
10:22:15AM QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BONUS AGREEMENT.
10:22:16AM I'M ALSO AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE GENERAL QUESTIONS.
10:22:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS.
10:22:20AM DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
10:22:23AM APPLICANT?
10:22:24AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE ON BEHALF OF THE
10:22:28AM DEVELOPER AND APPLICANT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE
10:22:30AM BONUS AGREEMENT.
10:22:31AM I KNOW THERE WAS A DIRECTIVE THERE.
10:22:33AM WE WORKED WITH LEGAL.
10:22:35AM WE THINK THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE WAY THE BONUS
10:22:38AM AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN, IT'S BROAD ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO
10:22:40AM POTENTIALLY INCLUDE THAT SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT.
10:22:43AM WE HAVE ALSO REACHED OUT TO BRANDON CAMPBELL AND LINING UP A
10:22:46AM TIME TO MEET WITH HIM.
10:22:48AM THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'D LIKE TO GO AND APPRECIATE
10:22:51AM YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
10:22:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:22:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
10:22:55AM I KNOW IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED FOR AND REALLY
10:22:58AM APPRECIATE THAT.
10:22:59AM >> THANK YOU.
10:22:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:23:01AM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
10:23:05AM ITEM 53?
10:23:06AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM
10:23:09AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:23:11AM OPPOSED?
10:23:11AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:23:13AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:23:17AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:23:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 53, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:23:25AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:23:26AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:23:28AM 2425, 2525 AND 2601 NORTH ROCKY POINT DRIVE IN THE CITY OF
10:23:32AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:23:35AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-24, RESIDENTIAL,
10:23:38AM MULTIFAMILY AND PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
10:23:42AM DEVELOPMENT, STOREFRONT, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL/OFFICE ALL
10:23:46AM CG USES AND RESTAURANT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:23:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:23:50AM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:23:52AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:23:54AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:23:56AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:23:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:24:00AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:24:03AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:24:05AM OPPOSED?
10:24:05AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:24:07AM THANK YOU.
10:24:08AM ITEM NUMBER 54.
10:24:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:24:11AM STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:24:13AM ITEM NUMBER 54 IS REZ-25-53.
10:24:17AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:24:19AM 4307 WEST FIG STREET.
10:24:22AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM 18, RESIDENTIAL
10:24:26AM MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OR RESIDENTIAL,
10:24:29AM SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED USES.
10:24:31AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:24:34AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:24:35AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:24:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:24:38AM APPLICANT?
10:24:40AM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
10:24:42AM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:24:44AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE.
10:24:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:24:47AM HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO
10:24:50AM ITEM 54.
10:24:51AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:24:52AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:24:54AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:24:55AM OPPOSED?
10:24:55AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:24:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE 54, FILE NUMBER REZ-25-53, ORDINANCE
10:25:02AM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE
10:25:05AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4307 WEST
10:25:08AM FIGURE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE
10:25:10AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:25:12AM CLASSIFICATION RM 18 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD,
10:25:15AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED,
10:25:18AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:25:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:25:21AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:25:22AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:25:28AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:25:30AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:25:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:25:33AM ITEM 55, STAFF.
10:25:37AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:25:39AM ITEM NUMBER 55 IS REZ 25-63.
10:25:42AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:25:45AM 3804 WEST SAN PEDRO STREET.
10:25:48AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RO-1, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, TO
10:25:52AM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS, AND PROFESSIONAL.
10:25:55AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:25:58AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:26:00AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:26:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:26:02AM DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:26:04AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 55?
10:26:08AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 55?
10:26:17AM >> COUNCIL, I HAVE THAT ON MY LIST, BUT I RESPECTFULLY
10:26:21AM REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:26:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:26:24AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
10:26:27AM HEARING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:26:29AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:26:31AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:26:32AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:26:34AM OPPOSED?
10:26:34AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:26:35AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:26:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
10:26:42AM AND ADOPTION.
10:26:43AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:26:45AM 3804 WEST SAN PEDRO STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:26:52AM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:26:54AM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RO-1, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, TO PD
10:26:58AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS, AND PROFESSIONAL,
10:27:00AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:27:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:27:02AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:06AM WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
10:27:07AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:27:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WERE YOU TRYING TO EMULATE A CERTAIN ACTOR?
10:27:13AM THAT WAS A DEEP, DARK --
10:27:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY SULTRY.
10:27:16AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:27:21AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:27:24AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:27:29AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:27:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE ON ITEM 56.
10:27:38AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:27:40AM ITEM NUMBER 56 IS REZ-25-66.
10:27:43AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:27:46AM 101, 105, 109, AND 111 NORTH MERIDIAN AVENUE, 1105 EAST
10:27:54AM WASHINGTON STREET AND 102 AND 106 NORTH 12th STREET.
10:27:58AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM CD 2 CHANNEL DISTRICT TO CD 2
10:28:02AM CHANNEL DISTRICT FOR RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS,
10:28:05AM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND HOTEL.
10:28:06AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:28:10AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:28:11AM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:28:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:28:14AM APPLICANT?
10:28:17AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:28:20AM NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
10:28:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
10:28:25AM TO ITEM 56?
10:28:26AM MR. SCAGLIONE?
10:28:29AM NO.
10:28:30AM YOU'RE LEAVING.
10:28:30AM OKAY.
10:28:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
10:28:34AM MIRANDA.
10:28:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:28:37AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:28:39AM OPPOSED?
10:28:39AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:28:40AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:28:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ 25-66, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:28:45AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
10:28:47AM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 101, 105, 109, AND 111 NORTH
10:28:53AM MERIDIAN AVENUE, 1105 EAST WASHINGTON STREET AND 102 AND 106
10:28:58AM NORTH 12th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
10:29:02AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:29:04AM CLASSIFICATION CD-2, CHANNEL DISTRICT, TO CD-2, CHANNEL
10:29:09AM DISTRICT, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, RESIDENTIAL,
10:29:13AM MULTIFAMILY, AND HOTEL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:29:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:29:17AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:20AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:29:24AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:29:26AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:29:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:29:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:29:31AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:29:34AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
10:29:35AM OPPOSED?
10:29:36AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:29:37AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:38AM ITEM 57, STAFF.
10:29:40AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:29:43AM ITEM NUMBER 57 IS REZ 25-67.
10:29:46AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:29:49AM 7402 NORTH HUTTON PLACE.
10:29:53AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 60 RESIDENTIAL,
10:29:57AM SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY.
10:30:00AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:30:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:30:02AM HEARING NONE, IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
10:30:06AM SEEING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
10:30:12AM THIS ITEM?
10:30:12AM NONE.
10:30:14AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MOVED TO CLOSE.
10:30:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:30:17AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:30:19AM OPPOSED?
10:30:19AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:30:21AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 57, FILE REZ 25-67, ORDINANCE BEING
10:30:27AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:30:29AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:30:31AM 7402 NORTH HUTTON PLACE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
10:30:35AM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
10:30:37AM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
10:30:42AM TO RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:30:45AM DATE.
10:30:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:30:46AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:47AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:30:49AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:30:56AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:30:57AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:30:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:31:00AM ITEM 57.
10:31:04AM SORRY.
10:31:05AM 58.
10:31:06AM YOU GUYS ARE CONFUSING ME.
10:31:12AM 58.
10:31:17AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:31:19AM ITEM NUMBER 58 IS REZ 25-68.
10:31:22AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:31:25AM 1320 WEST ARCH STREET.
10:31:27AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
10:31:30AM SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
10:31:34AM SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED.
10:31:35AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:31:39AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:31:40AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:31:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:31:44AM APPLICANT?
10:31:47AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:31:49AM MY NAME IS GISELLE MODA. I AM THE AUTHORIZED AGENT
10:31:52AM REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
10:31:54AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:31:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STEPHANIE, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND
10:31:59AM TO BE SWORN IN BY THE CLERK.
10:32:05AM >> GISELLE MODA.
10:32:13AM I WAS SWORN IN.
10:32:16AM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
10:32:18AM TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:32:20AM >> YES.
10:32:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN, PLEASE.
10:32:24AM >> GISELLE MODA.
10:32:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, IS THAT
10:32:31AM WHAT I HEARD?
10:32:32AM >> CORRECT.
10:32:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:33AM ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?
10:32:34AM THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP.
10:32:36AM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
10:32:38AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:32:41AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:32:43AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:32:44AM OPPOSED?
10:32:45AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:32:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE 58, FILE REZ-25-68, ORDINANCE BEING
10:32:52AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE
10:32:55AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1320 WEST ARCH
10:32:57AM STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
10:33:01AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
10:33:03AM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED
10:33:07AM DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED,
10:33:09AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:33:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:33:12AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:33:13AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WERE ABSENT AT THE FIRST VOTE.
10:33:16AM MAKE SURE YOU REVIEWED THE RECORD AND READY TO VOTE.
10:33:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
10:33:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:33:20AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:33:25AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:33:26AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:33:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:33:30AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:33:31AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:33:32AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
10:33:34AM OPPOSED?
10:33:34AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:33:35AM THANK YOU.
10:33:36AM ITEM 59.
10:33:38AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:33:41AM ITEM NUMBER 59 IS REZ-25-69.
10:33:45AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:33:48AM 5408 NORTH HABANA AVENUE AND 5411 NORTH PADDOCK AVENUE.
10:33:54AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
10:33:57AM SINGLE-FAMILY, AND CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, TO RM 18
10:34:01AM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY.
10:34:02AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:34:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:34:05AM HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
10:34:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:34:10AM AILEEN ROSARIO.
10:34:13AM I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.
10:34:14AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
10:34:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO
10:34:19AM SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
10:34:20AM SEEING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:34:22AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:34:24AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:34:26AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS?
10:34:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: --
10:34:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING, AYE.
10:34:36AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:34:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:34:40AM GENERAL VICINITY OF 5408 NORTH HABANA AVENUE AND 5411 NORTH
10:34:45AM PADDOCK AVENUE, CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
10:34:49AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
10:34:51AM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, AND CG, COMMERCIAL
10:34:54AM GENERAL TO RM 18, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN
10:34:57AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:34:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:34:59AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:35:02AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:35:07AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:35:09AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:35:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:35:11AM ITEM NUMBER 60.
10:35:14AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:35:16AM ITEM 60 IS REZ-25-79.
10:35:20AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:35:22AM 4823 AND 4825 WEST FLAMINGO ROAD.
10:35:27AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 60, RESIDENTIAL
10:35:31AM SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RM 18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
10:35:34AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:35:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:35:37AM HEARING NONE, IS THERE AN APPLICANT.
10:35:40AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER
10:35:43AM 60?
10:35:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:35:55AM I JUST BRIEFLY LOOKED AT THIS.
10:35:58AM ONE REASON WHY I'M NOT MAKING A STINK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR
10:36:02AM PROJECT IS BECAUSE THIS AREA TOOK ON A LOT OF WATER DURING
10:36:07AM HELENE, AND THEY ARE TAKING OUT OLDER HOMES AND REPLACING
10:36:13AM THEM WITH HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT TO THE BFE.
10:36:16AM THIS IS JUST PART OF LIFE.
10:36:18AM THANK YOU.
10:36:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY ELSE?
10:36:20AM MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:36:21AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:36:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:36:25AM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
10:36:26AM OPPOSED?
10:36:26AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:36:27AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:36:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ 25-79, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
10:36:33AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
10:36:35AM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4823 AND 4825 WEST
10:36:39AM FLAMINGO ROAD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
10:36:42AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:36:45AM CLASSIFICATION RS 60 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RM 18,
10:36:51AM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:36:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:36:55AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:36:56AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:37:02AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO
10:37:04AM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:37:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:37:06AM ITEM 61.
10:37:09AM >> STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:37:11AM ITEM NUMBER 61 IS REZ-24-68.
10:37:15AM THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:37:18AM 307 SOUTH MELVILLE AVENUE.
10:37:20AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
10:37:24AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
10:37:28AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:37:31AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:37:32AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:37:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:37:36AM APPLICANT?
10:37:37AM >> STEPH MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
10:37:40AM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
10:37:42AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:37:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:37:44AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 61?
10:37:47AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:37:49AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:37:50AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:37:52AM OPPOSED?
10:37:53AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:37:54AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:37:56AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 61?
10:37:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 61, FILE REZ-24-68, ORDINANCE BEING
10:38:08AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
10:38:10AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 307 SOUTH
10:38:13AM MELVILLE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
10:38:17AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:38:22AM CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD PLANNED
10:38:26AM DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING
10:38:26AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:38:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
10:38:27AM AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:38:31AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:38:33AM >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO ABSENT AT
10:38:35AM VOTE.
10:38:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN 10:30, HURTAK,
10:38:41AM MIRANDA.
10:38:42AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:38:46AM OPPOSED.
10:38:47AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:38:48AM GOOD MORNING.
10:38:59AM >> ROSS SAMONS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING VAC-25-18
10:39:04AM FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION.
10:39:06AM THE APPLICANT IS CITY OF TAMPA.
10:39:09AM THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEY
10:39:14AM LYING NORTH OF TWIGGS STREET, SOUTH OF ZACK STREET, EAST OF
10:39:17AM JEFFERSON STREET AND WEST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
10:39:20AM THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED AUGUST 4, 2025.
10:39:26AM RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED AND IMPROVED.
10:39:29AM IT'S HALF AND HALF SITUATION THERE.
10:39:31AM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY --
10:39:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
10:39:34AM CTTV, COULD YOU DISPLAY THE WOLF ON THE COUNCIL MEMBERS'
10:39:40AM SCREENS, PLEASE?
10:39:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MONITORS.
10:39:54AM IF THEY COULD PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL MONITORS, PLEASE.
10:40:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOMETHING IS HAPPENING.
10:40:12AM THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, BECAUSE THE SCREEN IS
10:40:19AM BLINKING.
10:40:20AM STILL WAITING FOR THE DISPLAY ON THE COUNCIL MONITORS AT THE
10:40:38AM DAIS.
10:40:38AM ANYBODY WANT TO SING?
10:40:54AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:40:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.
10:40:59AM COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY, PLEASE.
10:41:02AM I CAN KIND OF READ WHAT YOU HAVE UP THERE.
10:41:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE WE GO.
10:41:12AM ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS TOUCH THAT DOOR.
10:41:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, CTTV.
10:41:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO ON THIS BACKGROUND, IT TALKS ABOUT THE
10:41:22AM AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS WITH THE ACCARDIS.
10:41:25AM CAN YOU JUST CLEARLY STATE, THOUGH, AND WE COULD ASK LEGAL
10:41:29AM INSTEAD IF YOU WANT, BUT THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT
10:41:33AM AUTOMATICALLY GIVE THIS.
10:41:35AM IT ONLY IS CONTINGENT ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS A
10:41:37AM QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:41:39AM >> CORRECT.
10:41:39AM THE AGREEMENT IS CONTINGENT --
10:41:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE WAS MISINFORMATION THAT THIS IS --
10:41:44AM THAT THIS DECISION TODAY IS IN EXCHANGE FOR SOMETHING.
10:41:50AM IT IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING BY ITSELF AND THE DECISION
10:41:54AM HAS TO BE MADE SEPARATE FROM ANY AGREEMENT, CORRECT?
10:41:58AM >> CORRECT.
10:41:59AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:42:02AM THAT'S CORRECT.
10:42:02AM THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT YOU APPROVE THE
10:42:05AM VACATION.
10:42:06AM THE VACATION IS NOT APPROVED, THEN THE AGREEMENT TERMINATES.
10:42:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
10:42:12AM THERE WAS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION AND THIS IS A SEPARATE
10:42:15AM DECISION THAT HAS TO BE DONE ON ITS OWN MERIT.
10:42:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION?
10:42:21AM >>ROSS SAMONS: THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION
10:42:25AM PLAT AND BY ACQUISITION.
10:42:26AM AGAIN, PER AGREEMENT WITH ACCARDI PROPERTIES LLC THEY OWN
10:42:31AM ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AROUND THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:42:33AM THEY HAVE AGREED TO CONVEY TWO 10-FOOT STRIPS OF PROPERTY ON
10:42:38AM EACH SIDE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:42:39AM AND THIS IS TO UTILIZE FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.
10:42:42AM AGAIN, IT'S SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THIS VACATING.
10:42:45AM THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 9,478 SQUARE
10:42:50AM FEET.
10:42:50AM HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE ALLEY REQUESTED TO BE VACATED
10:42:57AM IN YELLOW FROM NEBRASKA HERE, THIS NORTH-SOUTH SECTION HERE.
10:43:03AM ATLAS SHEET SHOWING THE REQUESTED VACATING HERE IN RED.
10:43:14AM AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BLOCK, THE PREVIOUS VACATING IS HERE.
10:43:20AM THE SUBJECT ALLEY IN RED HERE AND THE ORIGINAL PLAT.
10:43:31AM I'VE INCLUDED AN EXHIBIT FROM THE AGREEMENT SHOWING THE
10:43:35AM 10-FOOT STRIPS ON EACH SIDE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE PROPERTY.
10:43:42AM HERE IS AN IMAGE LOOKING SOUTH FROM EAST ZACK STREET.
10:43:50AM IMAGE LOOKING EAST FROM THE ALLEY.
10:43:58AM IMAGE LOOKING WEST FROM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
10:44:06AM HERE IS ANOTHER IMAGE LOOKING NORTHWEST IN THE BLOCK,
10:44:11AM JACKSON HOUSE HERE.
10:44:12AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS VACATING REQUEST, EASEMENT
10:44:16AM RESERVATION IS REQUIRED BY FRONTIER.
10:44:18AM SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES, COMPLY WITH CHAPTER
10:44:21AM 27 REGARD TO TREE PRESERVATION, SITE DESIGN FOR ANY
10:44:25AM IMPROVEMENTS PLACED TO ADJACENT TREES IN VACATED AREA.
10:44:27AM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:44:29AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:44:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU PUT UP ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT SHOWS
10:44:36AM WHAT THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION IS, PLEASE?
10:44:49AM >> THIS ONE?
10:44:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
10:44:51AM ALTHOUGH IN THEORY SOMEONE COULD DRIVE THROUGH HERE, AS YOU
10:44:54AM SHOWED IN THE PICTURES, THE WHOLE THING LOOKS LIKE A PARKING
10:44:57AM LOT ALREADY.
10:44:58AM THE PREVIOUS PART, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAT TO THE WEST
10:45:01AM HAS ALREADY BEEN VACATED.
10:45:04AM >>ROSS SAMONS: CORRECT.
10:45:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY SURROUNDED BY --
10:45:12AM DO THE ACCARDIS OWN ALL THE PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR THE JACKSON
10:45:15AM HOUSE?
10:45:16AM >>ROSS SAMONS: THEY DO.
10:45:17AM THAT IS THE REASON I POINTED.
10:45:19AM UNIMPROVED AND IMPROVED.
10:45:21AM SOME OF IT IS PARKING AND SOME OF IT IS GRASS IN BETWEEN THE
10:45:25AM PARKING AREAS.
10:45:27AM IT IS A MIXTURE.
10:45:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEHOW COME IN ON ZACK AND THEN 120-DEGREE
10:45:33AM TURN.
10:45:34AM IT'S NOT REALLY NAVIGABLE AT THIS POINT.
10:45:38AM TYPICALLY IN A VACATION, HALF OF THE PROPERTY GOES TO EACH
10:45:44AM SIDE.
10:45:45AM HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL PROPERTY WILL THE JACKSON HOUSE GET AS A
10:45:49AM RESULT OF THIS?
10:45:50AM IS IT'S NOT JUST THE ACCARDIS THAT WILL GET EXTRA LAND.
10:45:54AM IT IS THE JACKSON HOUSE AS WELL.
10:45:56AM >>ROSS SAMONS: APPROXIMATELY 7 FEET IF IT DOES REVERT.
10:45:59AM THE CITY REALLY DOESN'T GET INTO HOW PROPERTY REVERTS.
10:46:02AM MOST CASES IT DOES FROM THE CENTER LINE IN THIS CASE.
10:46:05AM IT IS FROM ONE PLAT.
10:46:07AM SO IT MORE THAN LIKELY WILL --
10:46:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU GUYS ARE NODDING OVER THERE.
10:46:14AM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT?
10:46:15AM I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THIS IS A BENEFIT TO THE JACKSON
10:46:18AM HOUSE ALSO.
10:46:22AM >> RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:46:24AM YES, AS LONG AS THEY ARE ABUTTING THE ALLEYWAY AND
10:46:26AM CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CONTAINED
10:46:28AM WITHIN ONE PLAT, THEY WOULD GET THEIR SECTION BETWEEN THEIR
10:46:31AM SIDELINES GOING TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ALLEYWAY.
10:46:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: EXTRA TEN FEET ON EACH SIDE, WOULD THE CITY
10:46:38AM CONTROL THE EXTRA SEVEN FEET BEHIND THOSE TO WHERE
10:46:42AM ADDITIONAL RIGHTS-OF-WAY OR JACKSON HOUSE CONTROL IT?
10:46:45AM >> JACKSON HOUSE.
10:46:46AM CITY DOESN'T OWN, OTHER THAN A PARCEL OVER TO THE LEFT,
10:46:49AM NORTH AND SOUTH ALLEYWAY THAT THE CITY MAY OWN IN FEE, BUT,
10:46:52AM NO, SIR.
10:46:53AM FOR THIS PARTICULAR SECTION IT WOULD BE THE JACKSON HOUSE
10:46:56AM FOUNDATION THAT WOULD HAVE THAT.
10:46:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT GIVES THE JACKSON HOUSE ROOM, EVEN THOUGH
10:46:59AM IN THEORY SOMEBODY MIGHT BE SAYING THEY LOSE THE ALLEY.
10:47:02AM THE ALLEY IS NOT REALLY NAVIGABLE RIGHT NOW.
10:47:05AM BUT THE BONUS IS THEY GET AN EXTRA SEVEN FEET.
10:47:08AM NOW THEY CAN GET BEHIND THE BUILDING AND HAVE ACCESS TO IT
10:47:10AM IN ADDITION TO THE LAND THAT THE CITY NEGOTIATED.
10:47:15AM >> THAT IS THE BENEFIT FOR THAT.
10:47:16AM HOWEVER THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION DOES NEED TO TAKE THE
10:47:19AM NECESSARY STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THEIR
10:47:22AM PARCEL.
10:47:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THEY DO THAT?
10:47:26AM >>RON WIGGINTON: I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM LEGAL ADVICE ON
10:47:29AM HOW TO DO THAT.
10:47:30AM ONE OF THE GOOD FIRST PLACES TO START WOULD BE THE
10:47:32AM HILLSBOROUGH PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND WORK WITH THEM
10:47:35AM TO DETERMINE HOW THEY CAN GET THAT ON THEIR PARCEL AND START
10:47:39AM PAYING PROPERTY TAXES ON IT AS WELL.
10:47:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. FEELEY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
10:47:45AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT.
10:47:50AM WE WILL WORK WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:47:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY ARE A NONPROFIT, A VOLUNTEER.
10:47:55AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT.
10:47:58AM THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE.
10:47:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THAT COMPLETE THE PRESENTATION?
10:48:02AM >> YES, THANK YOU.
10:48:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
10:48:04AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC --
10:48:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:48:07AM STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ACCARDIS.
10:48:10AM THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
10:48:13AM WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
10:48:16AM THIS CRITICAL VACATING OF THE ALLEY, WHERE THE ACCARDIS OWN
10:48:21AM ALL OF THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING THIS, EXCEPT FOR THAT SMALL
10:48:24AM SECTION BEHIND THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:48:28AM WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM.
10:48:30AM AS YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED REAL LAND WITH
10:48:34AM REAL VALUE AND REAL PROPERTY THAT WAS GIVEN BY THE ACCARDIS
10:48:39AM TO THE JACKSON HOUSE FOR ACCESS ON BOTH THE EAST AND THE
10:48:41AM WEST SIDES OF THAT STRUCTURE.
10:48:43AM WHEN THE COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT GIVING THEM ACCESS AND GIVING
10:48:47AM THEM A BUFFER, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WAS PROVIDED.
10:48:52AM THE ALLEY AS IT IS NOW BISECTS THEIR PROPERTY AND PREVENTS
10:48:56AM REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS.
10:48:58AM SO WE APPRECIATE SUPPORT FOR THIS VACATING.
10:49:01AM AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:49:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:49:04AM THE APPLICATION IS FROM THE CITY, CORRECT?
10:49:06AM THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY.
10:49:08AM SO THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:49:09AM IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:49:12AM ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS
10:49:15AM ITEM?
10:49:15AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:18AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:49:21AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:49:22AM OPPOSED?
10:49:22AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:49:24AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS FIRST
10:49:26AM READING?
10:49:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
10:49:28AM MOVE ITEM NUMBER 62, FILE VAC-25-18, ORDINANCE BEING
10:49:34AM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF
10:49:36AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING
10:49:40AM AND ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF TWIGGS STREET,
10:49:44AM SOUTH OF ZACK STREET, EAST OF JEFFERSON STREET AND WEST OF
10:49:47AM NEBRASKA AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF BINKLEY'S ADDITION TO
10:49:50AM FORT BROOKE, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:49:54AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
10:49:56AM IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
10:49:59AM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
10:50:02AM HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
10:50:04AM VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND
10:50:07AM REPEALING CONFLICTS.
10:50:09AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:50:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:50:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:50:14AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:50:15AM OPPOSED?
10:50:16AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:50:17AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:50:19AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 9, 2025,
10:50:22AM AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
10:50:27AM BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
10:50:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I ASK, IF APPROPRIATE, WHEN THIS COMES
10:50:45AM FOR SECOND READING, IN YOUR PRESENTATIONS, COULD YOU JUST
10:50:48AM MAKE THAT LEGAL PART CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT -- THAT THIS IS
10:50:56AM NOT A GIVEAWAY, EXCHANGE.
10:50:58AM TALKS ABOUT THE CONTRACT BUT DOESN'T CLARIFY THAT.
10:51:01AM HAD ONE MORE SENTENCE IT WOULD HELP.
10:51:05AM >> WE'LL CLARIFY THAT.
10:51:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:51:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE AN ITEM 64, BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS
10:51:12AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S ITEM.
10:51:16AM I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MOVE THAT.
10:51:18AM I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THAT AND WAIT FOR HIS RETURN TO COUNCIL
10:51:21AM CHAMBERS BECAUSE HE IS HERE.
10:51:23AM HOW ABOUT WE GO PAST THAT AND GO TO -- SEE IF WE CAN KNOCK
10:51:28AM OFF SOME OF THE STAFF REPORTS IF THE PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE.
10:51:30AM ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
10:51:43AM I KNOW THERE WERE PEOPLE PREPARED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
10:51:46AM ARE THEY ONLINE?
10:51:51AM WHO WANTS TO START?
10:51:57AM THERE WE GO.
10:52:03AM >> ERIC HAYDEN WITH T AND I.
10:52:05AM MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE UP.
10:52:07AM ALLOW ME TO SCREEN SHARE, I'LL SHARE A PRESENTATION.
10:52:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO AHEAD.
10:52:30AM >> ERIC HAYDEN WITH T AND I.
10:52:32AM GOOD MORNING.
10:52:33AM WE GOT EARLY.
10:52:36AM GOOD SEEING YOU GUYS AGAIN.
10:52:37AM GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE
10:52:40AM PUBLIC.
10:52:40AM ERIC HAYDEN WITH T AND I.
10:52:43AM WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS GIVE YOU AN UPDATE --
10:52:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO AHEAD.
10:52:47AM WE RESOLVED THE TECHNICAL ISSUE.
10:52:49AM GO AHEAD.
10:52:50AM >> OKAY.
10:52:51AM I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON OUR
10:52:54AM OnBase PROJECT AND CURRENT ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON.
10:52:58AM AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, THIS WILL ONLY TAKE A FEW MINUTES, WE
10:53:02AM ACTUALLY WENT AND ENGAGED IN A CONTRACT WITH OnBase BACK
10:53:05AM IN FEBRUARY OF 2022.
10:53:07AM IT'S TO REPLACE OUR SIRE LEGACY SYSTEM.
10:53:10AM THE SIRE SYSTEM IS OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
10:53:13AM IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR ABOUT NEARLY 20 YEARS.
10:53:15AM IT'S QUITE OLD.
10:53:16AM ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS BETWEEN CLERK'S
10:53:22AM OFFICE, COUNCIL, LEGISLATIVE AIDES AND OUR RECORDS AND
10:53:24AM ARCHIVE TEAMS, THESE ARE UNSUNG HEROES BEHIND THE SCENES
10:53:28AM THAT ARE WORKING AND MANAGING JUST MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF
10:53:32AM RECORDS THAT CONDUCT CITY BUSINESS.
10:53:34AM IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PROVIDE THEM A VERY
10:53:38AM ROCK SOLID PLATFORM THAT THEY CAN KEEP THESE RECORDS.
10:53:42AM RECORDS OF ALL TYPES, EVERYTHING FROM PHOTOGRAPHS TO
10:53:45AM MICROFILM TO PAPER DOCUMENTS, YOU NAME IT.
10:53:48AM IT ALL HAS TO BE DIGITIZED.
10:53:50AM IT IS A HUGE, HUGE PROJECT.
10:53:52AM IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE FOUR SOLUTIONS WITHIN OnBase THAT
10:53:55AM WE FOCUS ON.
10:53:56AM AGENDA MANAGEMENT IS ONE.
10:53:57AM THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2023.
10:53:59AM AND WHAT'S COMING NEW THERE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN OCTOBER IS
10:54:03AM BOARDS AND COMMISSION VACANCIES WILL NOW START BEING
10:54:06AM REPORTED ON AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH YOU GUYS WERE LOOKING
10:54:09AM FORWARD TO.
10:54:10AM THAT WILL START AROUND OCTOBER.
10:54:11AM AS WE MOVE TO DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS IN PROCESS, WE
10:54:15AM HAVE A TARGET OF FINISHING ALL OF THOSE 4 MILLION DOCUMENTS
10:54:18AM BY SPRING OF 2026, BUT WE WANT TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING
10:54:22AM EARLIER.
10:54:22AM WE WANT TO ACTUALLY INDEX RESOLUTIONS, ORDINANCES, CRA
10:54:28AM RESOLUTIONS, EXECUTIVE ORDERS, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE
10:54:32AM REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO GET ACCESS TO REALLY QUICKLY.
10:54:34AM WE WANT TO DO THAT UP FRONT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE WHILE STILL
10:54:38AM INDEXING THE REST OF IT.
10:54:40AM WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS, I'LL DO A QUICK DEMO.
10:54:43AM BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WILL GO UP.
10:54:45AM NEXT ARE ALL THE ORDINANCES AND EVERYTHING.
10:54:47AM THEN OPEN UP PUBLIC ACCESS WHERE WE CALL IT THE PAV, BUT
10:54:51AM THAT WILL BE COMING UP HOPEFULLY BEFORE CHRISTMAS OF THIS
10:54:54AM YEAR.
10:54:55AM WHAT WILL HAPPEN, THE PAV, YOU'LL SEE IT IS A PRODUCT THAT
10:55:00AM WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO SEARCHES FOR LOTS OF CONTENT,
10:55:03AM MEETING DATES, YOU NAME IT, TO HELP BRING BACK A LOT OF
10:55:07AM PRODUCTS THAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY ENDORSE AND EXECUTE.
10:55:11AM ANOTHER THING WE'LL BE WORKING WITH IS ADOBE SIGN
10:55:15AM INTEGRATION.
10:55:16AM DOCUMENTS AND THE WORK FLOWS BETWEEN EVERYBODY, BETWEEN THE
10:55:19AM CLERK'S OFFICE, COUNCIL, DEPARTMENTS, PURCHASING AND SO
10:55:23AM FORTH WILL HAVE A BETTER FLOW AND BE ABLE TO DO ONLINE
10:55:27AM SIGNATURES.
10:55:27AM LASTLY, THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING ONLINE FORMS.
10:55:30AM THAT'S COMING UP SPRING OF 2026.
10:55:33AM WHAT THAT WILL DO IS ALLOW FOR RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ALL SORTS
10:55:36AM OF INPUT, FOR WHEN PARTIES ARE ACTUALLY ENGAGED IN
10:55:40AM QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
10:55:42AM YOU HAVE MATERIALS, VOICE MAILS, MAIL, HARD MAIL, ELECTRONIC
10:55:45AM MAIL.
10:55:45AM YOU HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRODUCTS THAT COME IN AND A LOT
10:55:50AM OF MANUAL EFFORT MOVING THESE PRODUCTS AROUND SO THAT YOU
10:55:55AM GUYS ON COUNCIL CAN SEE THEM, APPROVE THEM AND MOVE THEM
10:55:58AM FORWARD.
10:55:59AM TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MANUAL WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.
10:56:01AM WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HELP MODERNIZE THAT AND HELP
10:56:04AM STREAMLINE A LOT OF THAT.
10:56:05AM IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR ALL STAFF INVOLVED.
10:56:08AM WITH THAT, LET ME CHANGE MY VIEW FOR A SECOND.
10:56:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ERIC, WHILE ON THE PAGE, ADOBE SIGN
10:56:15AM INTEGRATION, DOES THAT MEAN THE CHAIR'S SIGNATURE FOR
10:56:18AM ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS, I CAN DO IT ON ADOBE?
10:56:22AM >> YES.
10:56:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT HAD THE
10:56:24AM PRIVILEGE OF SIGNING THOSE DOCUMENTS, CHARLIE KNOWS WHAT
10:56:27AM IT'S LIKE.
10:56:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
10:56:29AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:56:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WALK IN THERE.
10:56:31AM THERE'S CONFERENCE TABLES FILLED, STACKED WITH DOCUMENTS.
10:56:36AM CRAZY.
10:56:36AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:56:36AM YOU GUYS ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HYBRID MANUAL WHERE WE
10:56:39AM HAVE THINGS ONLINE.
10:56:40AM WE HAVE THINGS PRINTED.
10:56:41AM THEN WE HAVE TO SIGN THEM AND PUT THEM BACK ONLINE AND INDEX
10:56:46AM AND KEEP THEM FOR POSTERITY.
10:56:48AM THAT IS A LOT OF MANUAL WORK.
10:56:51AM ALL OF THIS STUFF IS TO HELP EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE
10:56:54AM LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IN OUR RECORDS AND ARCHIVE MAINTAIN
10:56:56AM THESE FOR YEARS TO COME.
10:57:01AM I'LL SHOW YOU QUICKLY A LITTLE BIT OF THE VIEWER.
10:57:04AM I'M CHANGING MY VIEW.
10:57:06AM CAN YOU SEE A BROWSER NOW?
10:57:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN, YES.
10:57:10AM >> THIS IS A SAMPLE.
10:57:11AM WE'RE STILL DOING INDEXING.
10:57:12AM AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER AND HEARD CHIEF OF STAFF MENTION,
10:57:15AM THERE ARE OVER 4 MILLION ITEMS THAT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
10:57:19AM AND RECORDS AND ARCHIVE ARE ACTUALLY MAINTAINING FOR CITY
10:57:24AM BUSINESS.
10:57:25AM WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE CAN'T KEEP THEM IN ONE STYLE, ONE
10:57:29AM VERSION, ONE SET OF STORAGE.
10:57:31AM AS TECHNOLOGY EVOLVES, YOU HAVE TO MOVE ALL OF THIS PRODUCT
10:57:35AM FORWARD AND FORWARD AND FORWARD SO YOU'RE MAINTAINING IT IN
10:57:39AM SEARCHABLE FORMS, RETRIEVABLE FORMS, ANYTHING THAT CAN BRING
10:57:42AM YOU PRODUCT.
10:57:43AM IF YOU DON'T, YOU LOSE THE ACCESS.
10:57:45AM YOU LOSE THE VIEWER, YOU LOSE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY SEE
10:57:48AM THE PRODUCT.
10:57:49AM CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE RECORDS AND ARCHIVES GUYS HAVE IT IN
10:57:53AM PHYSICAL FORM, BUT THAT IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT WAY TO
10:57:56AM BRING PRODUCTS TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST
10:57:59AM OR COUNCIL REQUEST.
10:58:00AM SO THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE CAN ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND
10:58:03AM WE'RE STILL DOING INDEXING AND SO FORTH.
10:58:06AM WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL DOCUMENT TYPES THAT ARE CRA
10:58:11AM RESOLUTIONS, CITY EXECUTIVE ORDERS, CITY ORDINANCES AND CITY
10:58:15AM RESOLUTIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY INDEX THOSE FIRST SO
10:58:19AM WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT IN THE NOVEMBER
10:58:22AM CHRISTMAS TIME FRAME.
10:58:23AM I WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE PREVIEW.
10:58:26AM CHIEF OF STAFF ENDORSED THIS.
10:58:28AM THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO ACTUALLY DO THIS.
10:58:31AM BUT, FOR INSTANCE, YOU MAY NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE
10:58:33AM ORDINANCE NUMBER, BUT IF YOU WENT IN AND ACTUALLY PUT IN A
10:58:39AM PARTICULAR TITLE SUCH AS VERIZON AND SO FORTH, WHAT YOU'LL
10:58:42AM GET IS A SCORING SEARCH.
10:58:45AM LIKE 98%, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS YOU WANT TO
10:58:48AM SEE.
10:58:49AM YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THESE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE ALL RECORDED.
10:58:53AM MUCH MORE FRIENDLY USER INTERFACE.
10:58:55AM YOU CLICK ON IT, YOU'LL DOWNLOAD THE PDF AND HAVE THE WHOLE
10:58:59AM PDF.
10:59:00AM PRINT IT AND SO FORTH.
10:59:04AM IF YOU WANT TO REFINE YOUR SEARCH AND NOT DO EVERY DOCUMENT
10:59:07AM THAT HAD THE WORD VERIZON IN IT OR SO FORTH, YOU CAN DO
10:59:10AM DIFFERENT TYPES OF WILD CARDS.
10:59:12AM YOU CAN DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF SEARCHES, SUCH AS I WANT TO
10:59:15AM SEE VERIZON AND TRILIFE.
10:59:21AM TWO COMPANIES WORKING TOGETHER.
10:59:23AM INSTANTLY I GET RESO 2025 THROUGH 318.
10:59:27AM A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:59:29AM A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS MAY ASK FOR THIS TYPE OF CAPABILITY
10:59:33AM AND THE SPEED IN WHICH TO DO THE SEARCHES.
10:59:35AM BECAUSE IT IS REALLY AGGRAVATING THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE IF
10:59:38AM THEY ARE HAVING TO WAIT MINUTES AND MINUTES AND THEY GET ALL
10:59:42AM SORTS OF INCORRECT SEARCH RETURNS AND EVERYTHING.
10:59:45AM SO AS YOU'LL SEE, YOU CAN EVEN BOIL DOWN TO THAT'S ANY
10:59:49AM DOCUMENT, BUT BOIL DOWN TO CRA RESOLUTIONS, EXECUTIVE
10:59:52AM ORDERS.
10:59:53AM ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL MAKE IT SO MUCH EASIER FOR PEOPLE
10:59:56AM TO GET ACCESS TO THE RECORDS THAT THE LEGISLATIVE GROUP IS
10:59:59AM PROCESSING THROUGH.
11:00:00AM WITH THAT, I WANTED TO KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT BRIEF, BECAUSE
11:00:06AM WE ARE STILL INDEXING, FINALIZING THE DATA BEHIND THE SCENES
11:00:10AM WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:00:11AM IF WE FINISH ALL OF THOSE SEARCHES, WE CAN OPEN UP THE PAV
11:00:16AM MUCH SOONER FOR EVERYONE.
11:00:19AM WANTED YOU TO TAKE A PEEK AT THAT.
11:00:21AM LET ME GO BACK TO THE SLIDE FOR A SECOND.
11:00:23AM ONGOING, OF COURSE, WE'RE DOING CONTINUAL UPDATES WITH
11:00:35AM HIGHLAND SOFTWARE.
11:00:37AM CONTINUE TO DO ADA ENHANCEMENTS, A.I. IMPROVEMENT.
11:00:40AM THERE'S NEW A.I. TYPES OF THINGS, NOTHING LIKE FULL A.I.,
11:00:43AM BUT A.I. ASSISTED OR A.I. ENHANCED SERVICES WHERE IT WILL
11:00:47AM HELP WITH CONTENT INSIGHTS INSTEAD OF JUST FILLING IN FIELDS
11:00:51AM AND SO FORTH, SOMETIMES YOU CAN TYPE IN PLAINTEXT.
11:00:54AM HEY, I WANT A RESOLUTION FROM THIS DATE TO THIS DATE AND SO
11:00:58AM FORTH.
11:00:59AM WITH LARGE LANGUAGE MODELS AND CHAT BOTS AND SO FORTH, THESE
11:01:03AM TYPES OF THINGS ARE MUCH EASIER TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
11:01:06AM OTHER SECURITY AND MISCELLANEOUS UPDATES.
11:01:08AM WITH THAT, I WANTED TO KEEP THIS BRIEF FOR YOU AND JUST GIVE
11:01:11AM YOU A TASTE OF WHAT'S COMING.
11:01:13AM WITH THAT, I WANT TO CLOSE AND OPEN THE DOOR FOR ANY
11:01:18AM QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:01:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:01:21AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:01:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT I WANTED TO
11:01:24AM SAY THANK YOU.
11:01:25AM THIS IS A GIANT LIFT.
11:01:27AM I KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S TAKING YOUR DEPARTMENT.
11:01:30AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR IT.
11:01:32AM I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC WHO WILL
11:01:35AM REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO FIND THIS INFORMATION.
11:01:38AM THANK YOU.
11:01:39AM >> YOU ARE VERY WELCOME.
11:01:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:01:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: SAME THING.
11:01:43AM THANK YOU FOR MAKING IT EASIER FOR US TO FIND THINGS.
11:01:46AM IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE THIS ACCESSIBLE TO GOOGLE SO THAT
11:01:52AM PEOPLE CAN SEARCH FROM THE OUTSIDE AND GET ACCESS TO THE
11:01:55AM SAME DOCUMENTS?
11:01:57AM >> THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE OUTSIDE.
11:01:58AM LET ME CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:02:02AM SOMETIMES GOOGLE ALREADY HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF CONNECTIONS
11:02:05AM WITH US.
11:02:06AM GOOGLE IS A MARKETING PLATFORM, AS YOU'RE AWARE.
11:02:10AM WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR IS WHO WANTS TO ENHANCE THEIR
11:02:13AM SEARCHABILITY BY RAISING THEMSELVES UP TO THE TOP OF LIST
11:02:16AM AND THINGS.
11:02:17AM WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT INTERFACES ARE AVAILABLE FOR US.
11:02:23AM IT IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY PUBLIC ONCE WE TURN IT ON.
11:02:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY IF YOU MENTIONED THIS ALREADY.
11:02:28AM TRANSCRIPTS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THERE TOO?
11:02:31AM >> NO, JUST RIGHT NOW, THE FOUR DOCUMENTS THAT ARE
11:02:33AM SEARCHABLE OR CRA RESOLUTIONS, REGULAR CITY RESOLUTIONS,
11:02:38AM ORDINANCES, AND EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
11:02:40AM NOW, IF YOU GO -- IF YOU'RE TALKING TRANSCRIPTS FROM THE
11:02:44AM MEETINGS, THAT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE FROM OUR YouTube
11:02:48AM INDEXING.
11:02:49AM DEPENDS ON THE TRANSCRIPTS YOU'RE SPEAKING TO SPECIFICALLY.
11:02:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID AGENDAS ARE SEARCHABLE, TOO, RIGHT?
11:02:59AM >> YES.
11:02:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: ARE THE BACKUPS TO AGENDAS SEARCHABLE AS
11:03:02AM WELL?
11:03:06AM >> I DON'T KNOW THAT QUESTION.
11:03:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOST OF THE TIME WHEN I'M TRYING TO FIND
11:03:12AM SOMETHING AND WHEN CONSTITUENTS CALL, THEY WANT TO FIND
11:03:15AM SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, BACKUPS TO THE AGENDA OR THE
11:03:18AM TRANSCRIPT.
11:03:18AM ALL THE REST OF IT IS IMPORTANT, TOO.
11:03:20AM IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS SOMEHOW INTEGRATED SO ALL THAT
11:03:24AM WOULD POP UP AT THE SAME TIME FOR A PARTICULAR ITEM.
11:03:27AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:03:28AM GOOD IDEAS.
11:03:29AM I'LL HAVE THAT TEAM ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO THE OFFICE SO THEY
11:03:32AM CAN GET A LOT OF THESE REQUESTS.
11:03:35AM IF THERE'S ANY DIFFICULTY YOUR TEAMS ARE HAVING, HELPING
11:03:40AM PROVIDE SERVICE IN THE REFERENCE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
11:03:44AM STREAMLINE THAT.
11:03:44AM VERY FRUITFUL.
11:03:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW YOU ARE ARCHIVING THE YouTube
11:03:49AM VIDEOS, BUT IF THERE IS A WAY TO INCLUDE THE LINKS IN THAT
11:03:52AM SEARCH ALSO, THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR EVERYONE SO THEY
11:03:55AM CAN FIND THE TRANSCRIPT, DOCUMENTS, AGENDA, AND THE
11:03:57AM YouTube LINK.
11:04:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, ERIC.
11:04:02AM GOOD PRESENTATION.
11:04:03AM THE TASK SEEMS OVERWHELMING IN MY MIND BEING ABLE TO
11:04:08AM ACCOMPLISH THIS.
11:04:09AM GREAT JOB WITH YOUR TEAM.
11:04:12AM >> THANK YOU.
11:04:13AM I BELIEVE JC IS COMING UP.
11:04:19AM IS THAT TRUE?
11:04:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
11:04:22AM >> I'LL GO AHEAD AND BACK OUT.
11:04:24AM IF YOU NEED ME, I'M STILL STANDING BY.
11:04:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, ERIC.
11:04:27AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:04:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:04:31AM JC HUDGISON, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, CONSTRUCTION SERVICE
11:04:35AM CENTER MANAGER.
11:04:36AM I CAN GET SCREEN ACCESS.
11:04:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LOOKS GOOD ON OUR SIDE.
11:04:55AM >> GREAT.
11:04:55AM SO THIS IS -- THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN
11:05:01AM TRYING TO DO AND INTEGRATE WITH ANOTHER GROUP.
11:05:04AM I DEFINITELY HAVE TO GIVE A LOT OF -- ALL THE WORK TO THE
11:05:08AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER.
11:05:09AM OVER THE YEARS, OUR ACCELA SYSTEM, OUR PERMITTING SYSTEM, WE
11:05:13AM SEND INFORMATION.
11:05:14AM WE SEND A DIGEST TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SITE.
11:05:18AM SO WHEN WE MET WITH, WE WERE LOOKING INTO ENFORCEMENT AND
11:05:23AM PROPERTY CONCERNS WE WERE HAVING FOR ILLEGAL CONSTRUCTION,
11:05:26AM WE KNEW THIS WAS KIND OF COMING DOWN THE PIPE.
11:05:28AM WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE WHEN, BUT NOW AS OF APRIL OF THIS
11:05:32AM YEAR, IF YOU GO TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY
11:05:34AM APPRAISER SITE, YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL UP THE PERMIT
11:05:38AM INFORMATION.
11:05:39AM SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW TO COME TO ACCELA.
11:05:44AM THEY DON'T KNOW TO COME AND FIND OUR ACTIVE PERMIT MAP.
11:05:47AM WE WANTED TO INCREASE THE TRANSPARENCY AND BE ABLE TO SHOW
11:05:49AM IT ON MULTIPLE WEBSITES.
11:05:51AM SO JUST REAL QUICK, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF
11:05:56AM DEMO BECAUSE I KNOW HOW THAT CAN GET TRICKY BUT I WANTED TO
11:06:00AM STEAL A FEW SCREEN SHOTS.
11:06:02AM JUST TAKE WHERE YOU ALL ARE DOWNTOWN, 315 EAST KENNEDY.
11:06:06AM ONCE YOU CLICK ON THE PARCEL, YOU CAN CLICK ON THE PARCEL
11:06:10AM LINK THERE.
11:06:10AM YOU SCROLL DOWN AFTER IT GIVES YOU THE PROPERTY APPRAISER
11:06:14AM INFORMATION, SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ALL THAT, THERE IS AN ACTUAL
11:06:17AM TAB THAT SAYS PERMIT.
11:06:19AM ONCE YOU HAVE THE PERMIT TAB, LISTS ALL THE PERMITS.
11:06:22AM WE HAVE LOTS OF MORE PERMITS OBVIOUSLY ON THAT PROPERTY DOWN
11:06:25AM THERE WITH CITY HALL.
11:06:27AM YOU CLICK ON ANY OF THOSE AND THEN IT TAKES YOU STRAIGHT TO
11:06:31AM OUR ACCELA PAGE TO SHOW THE STATUS OF THE PERMIT, WHETHER
11:06:34AM COMPLETE, EXPIRED, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
11:06:36AM IDEALLY FROM THE REALTOR POINT OF VIEW, THEY COME IN, SELL A
11:06:44AM PROPERTY, SAYS NEWLY RENOVATED.
11:06:46AM THEY CAN DO A QUICK SEARCH USING THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SITE
11:06:49AM TO USE THE PERMIT HISTORY THAT WAS LISTED THERE.
11:06:51AM OUR INTENT IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY.
11:06:54AM LIKE I SAID, JUST ANOTHER TIP OF THE HAT TO HILLSBOROUGH
11:06:58AM COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER BECAUSE THEY DID ALL THE HEAVY
11:07:00AM LIFTING.
11:07:01AM I GET TO DO ALL THE SHARING.
11:07:02AM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:07:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:07:06AM THE INTEGRATION, IS THIS HANDS-FREE SO THE SOFTWARE
11:07:10AM APPLICATIONS TALK TO EACH OTHER?
11:07:12AM >> THAT IS CORRECT.
11:07:13AM IT IS DIRECTLY -- YOU LOG IN.
11:07:16AM YOU CLICK THE LINK.
11:07:17AM I DON'T LIKE DOING LIVE DEMOS.
11:07:21AM HEY.
11:07:21AM YOU CLICK ON IT, CLICK RIGHT THERE, TAKES YOU TO THE PERMIT
11:07:24AM SCREEN.
11:07:25AM YOU SEE ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION.
11:07:27AM SCROLL RIGHT DOWN, YOU CAN CLICK ANY RECORD IN HERE.
11:07:30AM CLICK THAT PERMIT AND IT TAKES YOU RIGHT TO THE -- NO
11:07:36AM LOGGING IN.
11:07:36AM NO HAVING TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
11:07:38AM IT WILL TELL YOU ALL THE INFORMATION THAT ANYBODY SEES.
11:07:42AM PERMITS ISSUED.
11:07:43AM SHOW WHEN IT WAS ISSUED.
11:07:44AM YOU CAN SEE THE STATUS, WHO PULLED IT, ALL OF THAT
11:07:47AM INFORMATION.
11:07:47AM LIKE I SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO ANOTHER SITE.
11:07:51AM EVERYTHING IS INTEGRATED.
11:07:53AM ONCE YOU GO TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, CLICK ON THE SITE,
11:07:55AM CLICK ON THE PARCEL AND TAKES YOU RIGHT WHERE YOU NEED TO
11:07:58AM GO.
11:07:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CRAZY HOW THE APPLICATIONS WORK TOGETHER.
11:08:02AM VERY COOL.
11:08:03AM THANK YOU.
11:08:04AM APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
11:08:05AM ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?
11:08:05AM GREAT WORK.
11:08:07AM I'M SURE IT WILL BE WELL RECEIVED BY EVERYBODY.
11:08:10AM OKAY.
11:08:11AM WE'LL MOVE ON.
11:08:12AM ITEM NUMBER 66.
11:08:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE DOWN TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:08:21AM THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE ALL OF US BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE
11:08:35AM TWO NO VOTES.
11:08:37AM HOW ABOUT 70?
11:08:41AM IT LOOKS LIKE MR. CAMPBELL IS HERE.
11:08:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 70 SHOULD BE NONCONTROVERSIAL.
11:08:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SURE THEY WOULD WANT TO BE HERE FOR THAT.
11:08:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL DO 70.
11:08:53AM >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COUNCIL.
11:08:55AM BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM
11:08:58AM NUMBER 70, WHICH IS OUR MONTHLY STORMWATER MAINTENANCE
11:09:04AM REPORT TO PROVIDE SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE REPORT THAT WE
11:09:07AM HAVE PUBLISHED ON TAMPA.GOV/MOBILITY.
11:09:10AM I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT -- I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A
11:09:33AM FEW OF THE STATS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH PARTICULARLY THROUGH
11:09:36AM THE MONTH OF AUGUST.
11:09:38AM ESPECIALLY HOW THEY DIFFER FROM LAST YEAR.
11:09:42AM AS YOU'LL REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE HAD TROPICAL IMPACTS
11:09:45AM STARTING IN AUGUST WITH TROPICAL STORM DEBBY AND THEN
11:09:49AM SEPTEMBER WITH HURRICANE HELENE AND THEN OCTOBER WITH
11:09:53AM HURRICANE MILTON.
11:09:54AM YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT IMPACTS THE LEVEL OF CALL VOLUME THAT
11:09:59AM WE GET FOR SERVICE AND HOW THAT THEN CONSEQUENTLY REDIRECTS
11:10:04AM OUR ATTENTION TO MORE ACUTE ISSUES AS OPPOSED TO THE ROUTINE
11:10:09AM MAINTENANCE THAT WE ARE THANKFULLY ABLE TO WORK ON WITH A
11:10:13AM LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUS RIGHT NOW.
11:10:14AM IT IS A GOOD SURROGATE MEASURE JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF
11:10:21AM CALLS TO SORT OF TRACK HOW THE TROPICAL IMPACTS OR
11:10:24AM NONTROPICAL, BUT HIGH RAIN EVENT IMPACTS HAVE AFFECTED US AS
11:10:29AM A CITY OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO YEARS.
11:10:33AM FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST, WE HAD 311 CALLS FOR SERVICE AS
11:10:37AM COMPARED TO LAST YEAR WITH 665.
11:10:40AM OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS LESS THAN HALF.
11:10:43AM WE'RE HOPING FOR A SIMILAR TRAJECTORY THROUGH THE REMAINDER
11:10:47AM OF THE YEAR, BUT WE ARE PREPARED FOR THAT TO BE EITHER THE
11:10:51AM CASE OR NOT THE CASE.
11:10:52AM AS ALWAYS, IN OUR REPORT, WE DO LIST THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
11:11:03AM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITHIN.
11:11:07AM STILL FAIRLY NEW IS OUR WORK ORDER MAP THAT IS PUBLISHED
11:11:10AM ALSO ON THE WEBSITE.
11:11:12AM SO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD CORRESPOND FAIRLY CLOSELY WITH
11:11:17AM WHAT YOU SEE AS EXECUTED WORK ORDERS ON THE ONE MAP AND THEN
11:11:20AM ON A SUBSEQUENT PAGE, THERE SHOULD BE MAYBE A LITTLE LESS
11:11:24AM OVERLAP BUT SOME OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE THAT WE PLAN TO AND
11:11:28AM OPEN CALLS FOR SERVICE.
11:11:29AM OVER THE MONTH OF AUGUST, WE DUG OUT ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF
11:11:35AM OF DITCHES, REMOVING 562 TONS OF DEBRIS IN THAT OPERATION.
11:11:42AM WE ALSO MOWED 127 PONDS AND SPRAYED 116 PONDS.
11:11:47AM I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS IN CHAMBERS
11:11:51AM ABOUT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO MAINTAIN PONDS VERSUS WHAT IS A
11:11:56AM MORE EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT.
11:11:57AM WHEN WE SAY WE ARE MAINTAINING PONDS, THESE ARE THE THINGS
11:12:01AM WE ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON.
11:12:02AM IF THERE ARE MORE EXTRAORDINARY NEEDS, THOSE COME AS WE
11:12:07AM WOULD WITH OTHER SORT OF WORK ITEMS AS A DISTINCT AND
11:12:12AM SEPARATE EFFORT.
11:12:13AM CAVE-INS, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT
11:12:17AM OCCASIONS.
11:12:18AM I DO HAVE A GOOD PICTURE FROM THE REPORT OF ONE OF THE
11:12:22AM CAVE-INS THAT THE TEAM HAD WORKED ON IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST,
11:12:26AM AMONG THE 12 THAT THEY COMPLETED.
11:12:29AM LAST, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OUR HEAD WALLS.
11:12:31AM I KNOW THERE'S ALSO BEEN QUESTIONS ASKED OF ME, WHAT EXACTLY
11:12:34AM IS A HEAD WALL AS OPPOSED TO OTHER STRUCTURES.
11:12:37AM I HAVE MORE PICTURES, AGAIN, FROM LATER IN THE REPORT, OF
11:12:41AM GOOD EXAMPLES OF HEAD WALLS.
11:12:43AM HEAD WALLS BASICALLY ARE THE INTERFACE BETWEEN A PIPE AND
11:12:46AM THE DITCH WHERE WE HAVE A CONCRETE STRUCTURE THAT HELPS TO
11:12:51AM REDUCE THE EROSION AT THAT INTERFACE, WHEREAS A BOX WOULD BE
11:12:54AM THE INTERFACE BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT PIPES AND SORT OF A
11:12:58AM JUNCTION OF SEPARATE PIPELINES.
11:13:01AM STREET SWEEPING, WE DID HAVE 340 TONS OF DEBRIS REMOVED FROM
11:13:12AM THE STREETS.
11:13:13AM AGAIN, THAT IS DEBRIS THAT MAY OTHERWISE END UP IN THE
11:13:19AM REMAINDER OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM DITCHES, PONDS, PIPES,
11:13:24AM THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET WITH THE STREET SWEEPER EFFICIENT WAY
11:13:28AM AND AS REQUIRED BY OUR PERMIT.
11:13:31AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, BEFORE I LEAVE THIS PAGE, I WANTED TO
11:13:35AM HIGHLIGHT IF YOU HAVE A NEED FOR SERVICE, YOU ARE WELCOME TO
11:13:39AM CALL OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE LINE AT 813-274-3101.
11:13:45AM ANSWERED 24 HOURS A DAY BY STAFF DURING BUSINESS HOURS AND
11:13:48AM BY AN ANSWERING SERVICE AFTER HOURS.
11:13:51AM WE HAVE A LOT OF PICTURES IN THE REPORT ITSELF.
11:13:53AM I SHOULD NOT WANT TO BELABOR THAT BUT I HAVE A COUPLE I
11:13:57AM WANTED TO SHOW BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY WERE RELEVANT TO OTHER
11:14:00AM ITEMS OF DISCUSSION.
11:14:01AM THIS IS A CAVE-IN REPAIR THAT OUR IN-HOUSE CREWS PERFORMED
11:14:07AM THIS MONTH.
11:14:08AM YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM JUST A
11:14:11AM POTHOLE REPAIR THAT WOULD BE DONE BY OTHER CREWS.
11:14:15AM IT REQUIRED A BACKHOE AND SIGNIFICANT DIGGING.
11:14:18AM THERE WERE INTERIM STEPS HERE THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY
11:14:22AM CAPTURED BY THE PICTURES, BUT THIS DOES GIVE AN IDEA OF THE
11:14:28AM FACT THAT THIS IS A MORE SIGNIFICANT EFFORT THAN JUST SIMPLY
11:14:31AM FILLING IN A POTHOLE.
11:14:33AM LAST, LATER IN THE SERIES OF PICTURES ON THAT REPORT, THIS
11:14:40AM WAS REALLY MEANT TO HIGHLIGHT DITCH DIGGING, BUT I BROUGHT
11:14:43AM IT BECAUSE THOSE QUESTIONS HAD COME UP ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IS
11:14:46AM A HEAD WALL.
11:14:47AM YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE GENTLEMAN IS STANDING IN THE MIDDLE
11:14:49AM PICTURE.
11:14:49AM HE'S ACTUALLY STANDING ON TOP OF THAT HEAD WALL TO ACCESS
11:14:53AM THE AREA THAT HE'S DIGGING OUT IN FRONT OF THE PIPE.
11:14:56AM BUT THAT IS WHAT THAT HEAD CALL IS.
11:14:59AM IT KEEPS THAT SOIL BEHIND IT FROM WASHING INTO THE SYSTEM.
11:15:03AM SO THAT SAID, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:15:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:15:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT DEBRIS.
11:15:11AM ALL THAT DEBRIS, DOES THAT GO TO THE WASTE TO ENERGY
11:15:14AM FACILITY?
11:15:15AM >> NO, IT'S GENERALLY A SOIL-BASED DEBRIS, SO IT TYPICALLY
11:15:19AM GOES TO THE LAND FILL.
11:15:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, WOW.
11:15:22AM OKAY.
11:15:22AM SO SOME INCREASED COSTS THERE.
11:15:26AM >> YES.
11:15:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD TO KNOW.
11:15:27AM JUST TO SAY I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BRANDON ON CHANGING AND
11:15:34AM IMPROVING THE REPORT AND WE'LL BE SEEING THOSE AS WE GO
11:15:38AM FORWARD NOW THAT I AM CHAIR OF MOBILITY, I AM KIND OF DIVING
11:15:43AM RIGHT IN TO LEARN MORE ABOUT MOBILITY AND STORMWATER.
11:15:46AM BUT IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR THINGS THAT YOU ALL ARE
11:15:49AM INTERESTED IN, AS WE KIND OF WORK ON THIS, WE CAN SHARE SOME
11:15:53AM OF THOSE DEMOS WITH YOU ALL JUST TO GET SOME FEEDBACK AS WE
11:15:58AM CONTINUALLY IMPROVE THE REPORT, AND I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU
11:16:01AM AGAIN FOR COMING IN PERSON.
11:16:03AM RIGHT NOW, WHILE PEOPLE ARE STILL RECOVERING, THIS IS SO
11:16:07AM IMPORTANT, AND IT REALLY HELPS PEOPLE.
11:16:10AM THE REPORT AGAIN IS AVAILABLE RIGHT ON THE MOBILITY WEBSITE,
11:16:13AM IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM.
11:16:15AM IT'S NOT ONLY THE STORMWATER, ALSO A SIDEWALK AND ROAD
11:16:18AM REPAIR REPORT.
11:16:19AM >> IT'S SIDE BY SIDE, YES.
11:16:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SIDE BY SIDE, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND PEOPLE TAKE
11:16:25AM A LOOK AT THEM.
11:16:26AM THANK YOU.
11:16:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:16:29AM THIS MORNING, THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT CAME IN AND MADE
11:16:31AM SOME STATEMENTS REGARDING THAT SOME OF THESE HAD NEVER BEEN
11:16:35AM CLEANED, GOING TO SUFFER IF A HURRICANE COMES, ESPECIALLY IN
11:16:40AM THE INDUSTRIAL AREA WITH THE BIG PUMPS AND SO FORTH.
11:16:43AM I APPRECIATE THAT YOU VERIFY THEY ARE DONE.
11:16:45AM BECAUSE WE HAD AN ALLEGATION.
11:16:48AM I DON'T WANT TO LET IT GO BY.
11:16:50AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU OFF-LINE AS WELL.
11:16:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SWANN AVENUE, HOSPITAL THERE.
11:16:54AM ONE TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY THEY DON'T KNOW IF THE PUMP IS
11:16:58AM READY TO WORK.
11:16:59AM JUST SAYING WHAT THEY TOLD ME.
11:17:00AM I WANT TO BE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE CHECKED OUT BEFORE THE
11:17:05AM WEATHER GETS ANY WORSE.
11:17:06AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: THANK YOU.
11:17:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:17:08AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:17:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'VE SEEN THE STREET SWEEPER MACHINES ALL
11:17:13AM OVER THE PLACE.
11:17:14AM MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:17:17AM I'VE HAD PEOPLE COMMENT THAT THEY ARE HAPPY TO SEE THOSE.
11:17:20AM THANK YOU TO THAT.
11:17:21AM PLUS THEY ARE ALWAYS HAPPY TO SEE THE CREWS THAT ARE OUT
11:17:24AM CLEANING FACILITIES OR REPAIRING FACILITIES.
11:17:28AM TO COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK'S REQUEST OR QUESTION ABOUT
11:17:37AM SIMPLIFYING AND PROVIDING INFORMATION, WHAT WOULD BE REALLY
11:17:40AM COOL IS TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A WHEEL OR DIAGRAM THAT
11:17:44AM SHOWED THE SEVEN YEAR CYCLE AND HOW FAR WE ARE ON THAT.
11:17:50AM BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO SPEED SOME THINGS UP.
11:17:54AM IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE, BUT ALSO TO SET
11:17:58AM EXPECTATIONS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE TO EVERY PART OF
11:18:01AM THE CITY.
11:18:03AM BASED ON WHAT YOU TOLD US, NOT GOING TO GET TO EVERY PART OF
11:18:06AM THE CITY OVER A 12 MONTH OR 24 MONTH PERIOD.
11:18:09AM FULL CYCLE IS SEVEN YEARS.
11:18:11AM THESE ARE MY WORDS FROM LOOKING AT DOCUMENTS I'VE SEEN.
11:18:16AM OBVIOUS THAT MANY AREAS WERE NOT MAINTAINED IN THE LAST TEN
11:18:19AM YEARS.
11:18:20AM SO WE SET THAT ASIDE AND ONLY LOOK AT THE FUTURE, YOU ALL
11:18:24AM ARE WORKING FORWARD.
11:18:26AM IT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHERE WE ARE
11:18:28AM ON THAT CYCLE.
11:18:29AM IF YOU ARE AHEAD OF IT, THEN WE OUGHT TO MAKE SURE WE
11:18:31AM CELEBRATE THAT.
11:18:32AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CYCLE BY DISTRICT OR BY
11:18:35AM NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT INTERESTING FOR
11:18:38AM PEOPLE TO SEE HOW THAT'S GOING ALONG, JUST IN A SIMPLE
11:18:43AM GRAPHIC DEPICTION.
11:18:44AM THANK YOU.
11:18:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, BRANDON.
11:18:49AM APPRECIATE IT.
11:18:49AM WE'RE WAITING FOR MICHELLE TO COME BACK AND THEN TAKE UP
11:18:55AM ITEM 64.
11:18:56AM WHEN MICHELLE GETS BACK, WE CAN KNOCK OUT 68.
11:19:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 68 IS DONE.
11:19:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEVER MIND.
11:19:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND 72.
11:19:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 72.
11:19:19AM LET'S GO.
11:19:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: VIERA IS NOT HERE, BUT HOPEFULLY HE WILL COME
11:19:25AM BACK.
11:19:26AM OH, MS. VAN LOAN IS HERE.
11:19:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COME ON, WE'LL START WITH YOU.
11:19:30AM ITEM 64.
11:19:31AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: HE'S A ON-SITE.
11:19:37AM GOOD MORNING.
11:19:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE RIGHT.
11:19:40AM RIGHT HERE.
11:19:41AM ON-SITE.
11:19:41AM PUT VELCRO ON THAT SEAT.
11:19:44AM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE.
11:19:47AM THIS MORNING IS THE FIRST READING FOR AN HONORARY NAMING IN
11:19:50AM HONOR OF J. LEONARD LEVY AND GEORGE LEVY.
11:19:54AM IT IS FOR THE PLACEMENT OF AN HONORARY STREET NAME SIGN AT
11:19:58AM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH HIMES AND WEST OHIO STREET.
11:20:01AM OUR STAFF MADE THE PRESENTATION ON AUGUST 7, 2025.
11:20:04AM WE THEN POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AUGUST 8 THROUGH AUGUST 25 PER
11:20:08AM THE ORDINANCE.
11:20:09AM WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS.
11:20:12AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:20:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:20:14AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:20:14AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:20:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:20:16AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:20:17AM THESE TWO GENTLEMEN, I DIDN'T MEET GEORGE LEVY BUT I MET
11:20:22AM LEONARD LEVY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE STANDING.
11:20:25AM THEY WERE SO -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT.
11:20:31AM GROWING UP AS A KID, YOU WOULD ALWAYS HEAR THESE NAMES.
11:20:35AM I DON'T KNOW WHEN MAYOR GRECO WAS MAYOR BACK IN THE DAY, HE
11:20:38AM HAD A GROUP CALLED THE MAGNIFICENT 7.
11:20:41AM I DON'T KNOW IF BOTH OF THEM OR ONE OF THEM, HE HAD THIS
11:20:45AM INNER CIRCLE.
11:20:46AM ANYWAYS, THEIR IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY IS HUGE WITH SPORTS
11:20:50AM AND BEYOND AND GIVING BACK AND HELPING AND WITH NONPROFITS.
11:20:54AM I COULD GO ON AND ON.
11:20:56AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
11:20:58AM I KNOW THE FAMILY IS VERY EXCITED.
11:20:59AM THEY MIGHT BE HERE ON SECOND READING TO SPEAK.
11:21:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:21:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:06AM IN FACT, THIS WAS REALLY BROUGHT ON BY GOUTOUFAS.
11:21:13AM WE RAN IT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THIS IS THE FINAL END.
11:21:17AM THANK EVERYBODY.
11:21:18AM CREDIT TO MR. DC GOUTOUFAS.
11:21:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
11:21:24AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:21:24AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:21:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ADD TO THAT, THEY WERE DEEPLY
11:21:31AM INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY IN MANY, MANY WAYS BACK IN THE
11:21:35AM TIME BEFORE SOCIAL MEDIA.
11:21:37AM SO NOT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE SEEN ALL THE THINGS THEY WERE
11:21:40AM DOING.
11:21:40AM BUT THEY WERE INVOLVED IN JUST ABOUT EVERY IMPORTANT THING
11:21:43AM THAT HAPPENED IN TAMPA DURING THAT TIME, INCLUDING BRINGING
11:21:47AM FOOTBALL HERE.
11:21:48AM THANK YOU TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION.
11:21:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:21:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT TRYING IN ANY WAY DISRUPT WHAT
11:21:56AM YOU SAID, BUT THEY WERE THEMSELVES SOCIAL MEDIA.
11:21:59AM THEY WERE EVERYWHERE.
11:22:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
11:22:02AM TO ITEM 64?
11:22:04AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:22:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:22:07AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ ITEM 64.
11:22:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
11:22:12AM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:22:14AM FLORIDA, APPROVING THE PLACEMENT OF AN HONORARY STREET
11:22:17AM NAMING SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH HIMES AVENUE AND
11:22:19AM WEST OHIO AVENUE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO HONOR J. LEONARD LEVY
11:22:24AM AND GEORGE LEVY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:22:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
11:22:26AM MANISCALCO AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:22:27AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:22:28AM OPPOSED?
11:22:28AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
11:22:30AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA AND
11:22:32AM HURTAK BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:22:34AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 9, 2025,
11:22:37AM AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
11:22:42AM BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:22:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
11:22:47AM I SEE ABBYE FEELEY IS HERE, READY FOR 72.
11:22:50AM LET'S GO TO ITEM 66.
11:23:00AM 66 AND 67 WILL BE NEXT.
11:23:05AM ITEM 66, IS THERE STAFF TO PRESENT FOR ITEM 66?
11:23:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL WE'RE DOING IS PASSING A RESOLUTION FOR
11:23:14AM FUNDING.
11:23:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T NEED STAFF.
11:23:16AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:23:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: [INAUDIBLE]
11:23:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:23:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 66.
11:23:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:23:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM TO MOVE 66 AND 67?
11:23:31AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO MOVE ITEMS 66 AND 67.
11:23:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:23:39AM ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
11:23:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY SOMETHING?
11:23:42AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK SAID SOMETHING EARLIER, I'M NOT
11:23:46AM AGAINST ACCEPTING THE MONEY, BUT I'M AGAINST THE PROJECT IN
11:23:50AM GENERAL.
11:23:52AM I DON'T BELIEVE IN SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPERS, SO I'M VOTING NO.
11:23:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:23:57AM ROLL CALL.
11:23:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL STATE IT AGAIN, I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR
11:24:03AM THIS BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS WAY OVEREXTENDED IN MONEY AND,
11:24:10AM QUITE FRANKLY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MULTIMODAL NETWORK
11:24:14AM SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
11:24:16AM ROME IS NOT GOING TO BE FIXED.
11:24:18AM IT'S SO BAD THAT I CAN'T EVEN BRING MY EASY SUNDAY MORNING
11:24:21AM BIKE GROUP TO SEE WHAT IT IS NOW BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY NOT
11:24:25AM GOING TO BE FIXED.
11:24:27AM THE INTERSECTION OF ROME AND KENNEDY WILL HAVE NO BIKE
11:24:31AM PROTECTION EVEN AFTER THIS.
11:24:33AM IT'S NOT EVEN DOING -- THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS
11:24:36AM INTERSECTIONS FOR CYCLISTS.
11:24:38AM IT WILL NOT BE USED AND IT WILL BE DANGEROUS.
11:24:41AM I TRIED TO FIX IT, BUT THEY ALREADY SENT THESE PLANS TO THE
11:24:46AM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SO IT'S NOT FIXABLE.
11:24:48AM I'M JUST VERY DISAPPOINTED, EVEN AFTER WE ALL AGREED ON IT.
11:24:53AM I DECIDED TO DIVE IN AND LEARN ABOUT IT, IT'S JUST NOT GOING
11:24:57AM TO BE SAFE FOR CYCLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR FAMILIES.
11:25:00AM NOT TO MENTION JUST YOUR AVERAGE CYCLIST.
11:25:05AM I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO FIX THE
11:25:08AM PROBLEM.
11:25:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:25:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:25:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:25:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:25:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:25:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:25:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:25:18AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND HURTAK
11:25:22AM VOTING NO.
11:25:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 72.
11:25:27AM ABBYE.
11:25:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:25:37AM I THINK THIS PowerPoint SHOULD BE AVAILABLE ON THE SCREEN.
11:25:44AM IF IT'S NOT, I HAVE COPIES IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.
11:25:47AM GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:26:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:26:17AM >> EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:26:19AM SO THE FIRST THING I'M GOING TO DO IS REVIEW THE ORDINANCE
11:26:28AM AND EXACTLY WHAT IT REQUIRES.
11:26:29AM SO SECTION 22-103A SETS OUT THAT WHEN, FOR RESIDENTIAL
11:26:40AM STRUCTURES, THERE IS A NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OR ANY MAJOR
11:26:43AM RENOVATION, A SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED FOR COMMERCIAL,
11:26:48AM INDUSTRIAL, OFFICE AND MIXED USE, KIND OF IN THE SAME VEIN.
11:26:52AM WHEN THERE IS A NEW STRUCTURE AND -- AN EXPANSION OF AN
11:26:58AM EXISTING STRUCTURE WHICH RESULTS IN A 25% INCREASE IN THE
11:27:02AM EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE, A SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED.
11:27:06AM AND FOR ALL OTHER USES, A SIDEWALK IS REQUIRED WHEN THERE IS
11:27:11AM A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED ZONING APPROVAL, S-2 SPECIAL USE
11:27:16AM APPROVAL, OR ANY CHANGE IN AN EXISTING USE REQUIRING 25%
11:27:21AM ADDITIONAL PARKING.
11:27:22AM SO THAT IS WHEN THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENT KICKS IN.
11:27:26AM SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BASE LINE FOR OUR CODE.
11:27:29AM THEN IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
11:27:37AM THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A MAJOR RENOVATION UNDER CHAPTER
11:27:41AM 27.
11:27:42AM FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, AS I SAID, THE SIDEWALK
11:27:46AM REQUIREMENT KICKS IN FOR NEW SINGLE-FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY
11:27:52AM RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE OR USE OR WHEN THERE IS A MAJOR
11:27:56AM RENOVATION, WHICH IS ANY CONSTRUCTION, RECONSTRUCTION,
11:27:59AM STRUCTURAL ALTERATION, EXPANSION, ENLARGEMENT OR REMODELING,
11:28:04AM WHICH THE TOTAL COST OF WHICH EXCEEDS 51% OF THE ASSESSED
11:28:08AM VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY.
11:28:09AM SO THEN IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE --
11:28:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:28:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION WHAT 51%
11:28:26AM MEANS.
11:28:27AM THERE ARE A LOT OF HOLES AS I SEE IT AND NOT IN YOUR WORK OR
11:28:33AM ANYBODY ELSE'S WORK.
11:28:34AM WHAT IS 51% OF SOMETHING?
11:28:35AM IS IT A VALUE OR SIZE OF A LOT OR SIZE OF A HOUSE?
11:28:39AM I JUST WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL THE OTHER
11:28:42AM DAY AND I CHECKED MY OWN RECORD.
11:28:43AM I NEVER SAID I HATED SIDEWALKS.
11:28:45AM I SAID WHY I VOTED HOW I HAD TO VOTE IN MY KNOWLEDGE.
11:28:50AM I NEVER HATED ANYTHING.
11:28:52AM BUT GO ON.
11:28:53AM >> YES, THE DEFINITION SAYS THAT IT'S 51% OF THE ASSESSED
11:28:57AM VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
11:28:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OF THE PROPERTY OR OF THE RECONSTRUCTION
11:29:01AM OF THE PROPERTY?
11:29:02AM >> OF THE PROPERTY.
11:29:08AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
11:29:09AM TYPICALLY, THE ASSESSED VALUE INCLUDES BOTH, THE LAND AND
11:29:13AM THE STRUCTURE.
11:29:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT EXAMPLES SO PEOPLE DON'T CALL
11:29:16AM ME.
11:29:17AM THEY CAN CALL EVERYBODY THEN.
11:29:18AM GIVE ME A HOUSE THAT YOU WANT TO REMODEL.
11:29:22AM IT'S GOT THREE BEDROOMS, ONE BATH, WHATEVER.
11:29:25AM IT'S A VALUE OF THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AFTER
11:29:28AM IT'S COMPLETED?
11:29:31AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO.
11:29:32AM IT'S 51% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE WHEN YOU COME IN TO MAKE THE
11:29:35AM IMPROVEMENTS.
11:29:36AM SAME THING THAT WE'RE DOING WITH STORM DAMAGE.
11:29:39AM I THINK THIS MOTION CAME BECAUSE OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT
11:29:43AM WERE BEING REQUIRED TO PAY, OR BEING REQUIRED TO INSTALL
11:29:48AM SIDEWALKS DUE TO STORM DAMAGE PERMITS BEING PULLED.
11:29:51AM I THINK THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE MOTION AND THE DISCUSSION
11:29:54AM TODAY WAS TO LOOK AT FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN
11:29:57AM MAKING REPAIRS DUE TO STORM DAMAGE, HOW ARE THEY BEING
11:30:01AM CHARGED, WHAT IS BEING CHARGED AND WHAT'S GOING ON.
11:30:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CLEARED IT UP WHEN YOU SAID THE WORD
11:30:07AM STORM DAMAGE.
11:30:08AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
11:30:08AM THAT'S WHAT THIS MOTION WAS TODAY.
11:30:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE IT.
11:30:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:30:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: I FORGOT TO SET THIS UP IN THE BEGINNING.
11:30:17AM BUT THE SITUATION IS, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REBUILDING THEIR
11:30:21AM HOMES.
11:30:23AM I'VE HAD TWO OR THREE CASES OF CONSTITUENTS WHO BECAUSE OF
11:30:28AM THE TIMELINE OF GETTING MONEY THERE INSURANCE AND
11:30:31AM EVERYTHING, THEY PUT IN THE PERMITS LATER, THERE WAS THAT --
11:30:34AM I THINK SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT THE SIX MONTH GRACE PERIOD,
11:30:37AM BUT PUT IN THE PERMIT LATER AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED, SUDDENLY
11:30:42AM THIS NEW FEE CAME INTO PLACE, AND THE STAFF WORKED WITH THEM
11:30:46AM ON IT.
11:30:46AM BUT THE PURPOSE OF MY MOTION HERE IS TO PROVIDE A CLEAR
11:30:52AM GUIDELINE SO THAT STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON
11:30:54AM IT, THAT WE CAN JUST CREATE A LINE ON WHETHER IT IS ALLOWED
11:30:58AM OR NOT.
11:30:59AM THE PURPOSE HERE IS ONLY FOR LIKE WHAT CARROLL ANN SAID.
11:31:04AM MY PURPOSE WAS TO ONLY LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO HAD HOMES, LIVING
11:31:08AM IN THE HOME, FLOODED, AND THEN FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY
11:31:11AM MIFFED THE SIX-MONTH GUIDELINE -- MISSED THE SIX-MONTH
11:31:16AM GUIDELINE.
11:31:16AM THE EXCUSES FOR THE ONES I LOOKED AT FOR NOT HAVING A
11:31:19AM SIDEWALK WERE CONFIRMED BY THE CITY.
11:31:21AM I THINK THAT THEY HAD A TREE OR SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T
11:31:23AM ALLOW IT TO GO THERE.
11:31:25AM THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO PAY THE IN LIEU OF FEE.
11:31:27AM THE IDEA HERE IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO MEET THAT NARROW
11:31:30AM DEFINITION, THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE EXTRA FEE.
11:31:34AM BUT ANYBODY GOING FORWARD, EVERYBODY ELSE GOING FORWARD
11:31:37AM WOULD.
11:31:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE IN THE SETUP MODE.
11:31:48AM COUNCIL MADE A DECISION, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
11:31:50AM I'M STILL QUESTION WHETHER I LIKE IT COMPLETELY ABOUT THESE
11:31:54AM FEES.
11:31:55AM THE CITY WAS VERY GENEROUS WITH THE WAIVING FEES AFTER THE
11:31:58AM HURRICANES FOR A LOT LONGER THAN I THINK ANY MUNICIPALITY
11:32:02AM THAT I'M AWARE OF.
11:32:04AM HOW LONG WERE WE WAIVING FEES AFTER THE HURRICANES?
11:32:08AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE WAIVED FEES UNTIL MARCH 1st, I BELIEVE.
11:32:11AM AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED WITH SOME OF THIS IS THAT IN THE
11:32:15AM INTERIM, YOU ALL CHANGED THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE FROM THE
11:32:19AM $29 A LINEAR FOOT.
11:32:21AM AND THAT HAPPENED IN APRIL.
11:32:23AM SO ANYONE WHO HAD FILED THEIR PERMITS PRIOR TO THAT AND
11:32:29AM TRIGGERED THE INSTALLATION OF A SIDEWALK, EITHER IT WAS A
11:32:34AM FULLY NEW CONSTRUCTED HOME THAT HAD NO SIDEWALKS AND NOW WAS
11:32:37AM THE TIME FOR THEM TO PUT THEM IN, OR IT WAS 51% OF THE MAJOR
11:32:41AM RENOVATION AND THE SIDEWALK WAS NOW REQUIRED, THEY WERE
11:32:45AM CHARGED THE 29.
11:32:49AM WE DID NOT CHANGE THE FEE ON THEM.
11:32:51AM ANYONE WHO FILED AFTER THAT HAS BEEN PAYING THE NEW FEE.
11:32:55AM WHEN YOU ALL CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE IN 22-103 SEVERAL YEARS AGO,
11:33:00AM THERE IS NOW NOT A NO-PAY OPTION.
11:33:05AM AND THAT'S WHERE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, IF I AM RECALLING
11:33:11AM CORRECTLY, CAME UP, WELL, CAN'T WE JUST WAIVE THE FEE FOR
11:33:15AM THEM FOR THE SIDEWALK?
11:33:16AM THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN IN '22, THERE IS NO FEE.
11:33:21AM YOU EITHER PUT IN THE SIDEWALK OR PAY THE FEE.
11:33:24AM I THINK THE MOTION WAS, CAN WE LOOK AT SOME SORT OF
11:33:28AM EMERGENCY APPROACH THAT THERE WOULD BE NO PAYMENT OF THE
11:33:31AM FEE?
11:33:31AM THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US BACK TO YOU TODAY TO HAVE THIS
11:33:34AM DISCUSSION.
11:33:34AM SO WE'RE HERE.
11:33:36AM I HAVE SOME NUMBERS ON THE STORM PERMITS, HOW MANY WE HAD.
11:33:40AM I HAVE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.
11:33:42AM I HAVE SOME NUMBERS ON WHAT'S IN REVIEW RIGHT NOW.
11:33:45AM BUT I THINK WE WERE TAKING DIRECTION FROM YOU AS TO HAVING
11:33:50AM THIS DISCUSSION, PROVIDING YOU WITH THE INFORMATION WE COULD
11:33:53AM AND THEN HEARING FROM YOU ALL ON WHAT THE STEPS FORWARD
11:33:56AM WOULD BE.
11:33:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:33:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO CLARIFY, MY INTENTION WAS TO LOOK
11:34:01AM AT WHETHER THEY SHOULD PAY THE OLD FEE OR NEW FEE.
11:34:04AM MY INTENTION WAS NOT TO HAVE THEM PAY NO FEE.
11:34:07AM THE ONLY QUESTION IS BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THEIR
11:34:09AM APPLICATION, I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE OLD
11:34:14AM FEE.
11:34:15AM IT'S JUST THAT SOME OF THEM WERE IN PROCESS.
11:34:18AM WE MAY BE TALKING ONLY ABOUT A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.
11:34:20AM SOME OF THEM WERE IN PROCESS BUT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE THE
11:34:24AM DEADLINE.
11:34:24AM INSTEAD OF -- HAD THEY APPLIED A YEAR AGO WHEN THE HOUSES
11:34:28AM WERE WIPED OUT, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO PAY THE NEW FEE.
11:34:32AM IT'S LOOKING AT THAT NARROW SUBSET.
11:34:34AM IF YOU THINK IT'S OKAY FOR STAFF TO HANDLE IT, THAT'S FINE.
11:34:38AM I WAS TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO CREATE A CLEAR GOAL SO THAT
11:34:42AM STAFF WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT.
11:34:44AM THEY COULD SAY YES OR NO.
11:34:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY, RIGHT?
11:34:47AM WE'VE TIED YOUR HANDS, CORRECT?
11:34:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS WHETHER TO PAY THE OLD FEE OR THE
11:34:53AM NEW FEE, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME GRAY AREA BECAUSE WHEN
11:34:58AM THEY MAY HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY VERSUS WHEN THEY
11:35:01AM APPLIED.
11:35:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE AGAIN, I TRY TO THINK OUTSIDE THE
11:35:05AM BOX.
11:35:06AM I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID.
11:35:07AM IT COVERS EVERYBODY.
11:35:08AM SO THEN IT COVERS THE ONE THAT JUST MOVED IN.
11:35:11AM UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE 80% OR 60%, 40%, OR
11:35:16AM 100% OF THE MONEY MADE THAT WE JUST DID A CONTRACT FOR A
11:35:22AM HOUSE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
11:35:23AM SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE HOUSE, EITHER A CAR HITS IT,
11:35:27AM CATCHES FIRE, HURRICANE, WHATEVER, THEY FALL INTO THE SAME
11:35:31AM UMBRELLA, CORRECT?
11:35:37AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ANYONE PUTTING IN A PERMIT FOR NEW
11:35:39AM CONSTRUCTION AFTER APRIL 1st WILL BE PAYING THE NEW
11:35:46AM SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE.
11:35:47AM THE WAY THAT THE CODE AND THE WAY THAT THE PERMITS ARE
11:35:49AM CURRENTLY BEING HANDLED.
11:35:51AM WHAT I'M HEARING ON THE OTHER SIDE FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
11:35:53AM RIGHT NOW IS THAT IS THERE A WAY TO BE ABLE TO SAY I'M
11:35:59AM COMING IN APRIL 1st, BUT I'M A STORM DAMAGE
11:36:02AM RECONSTRUCTION, WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THEM
11:36:07AM TO POTENTIALLY PAY THE OLD FEE OF THE 29 IF THEY ARE ASKING
11:36:11AM TO PAY THE FEE.
11:36:14AM IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
11:36:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENCE.
11:36:19AM I JUST BROUGHT THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION SO WE CAN DISCUSS AND
11:36:23AM DEBATE IT.
11:36:24AM BUT IT'S NOT WHETHER THEY ASK OR NOT.
11:36:27AM IT'S THAT IF SOMEONE IS -- WAS IN THE HOUSE WHEN IT WAS
11:36:31AM DESTROYED AND THEY APPLIED TO REBUILD THEIR OWN HOMES
11:36:35AM BECAUSE OF INSURANCE AND FEMA AND EVERYTHING, TAKING LONGER
11:36:38AM THAN PEOPLE EXPECTED, AND IF THERE ARE STILL A FEW PEOPLE
11:36:42AM THAT PUT THEIR PERMITS AFTER APRIL 1st, THEN THERE WOULD
11:36:45AM BE SOME SET, NARROW GUIDELINES TO ALLOW THE FOLKS, BECAUSE
11:36:49AM THEY OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT
11:36:52AM BEFORE APRIL 1st, THAT THEY WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED INTO
11:36:55AM THE OLD FEE.
11:36:56AM BUT ANYTHING NEW WOULD CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE NEW RULES.
11:37:00AM THAT'S ALL.
11:37:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:37:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF THERE IS
11:37:06AM A WAY WE CAN FOCUS SOLELY ON THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND THE
11:37:09AM PEOPLE WHO WERE REBUILDING.
11:37:12AM BUT I SEE, LIKE, WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS AND CONCERNS FOR
11:37:18AM HURRICANE VICTIMS IN THIS?
11:37:23AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I'LL SHARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS
11:37:25AM WITH YOU.
11:37:26AM I THINK THERE MAY BE A WAY.
11:37:34AM I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT AS TO
11:37:37AM HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE REBUILDING ON THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.
11:37:42AM I'LL TELL YOU, THE SECOND SCENARIO I'M THINKING OF, I KNOW
11:37:47AM OF A HOME BUILDER THAT ACQUIRED 48 DIFFERENT LOTS IN SOUTH
11:37:51AM TAMPA DUE TO THE HURRICANES.
11:37:52AM THEY WILL COME IN AND BUILD 48 NEW HOMES.
11:37:54AM I WOULD ASSUME OUR INTENT IS TO GET SIDEWALKS ON THE 48 NEW
11:37:59AM HOMES.
11:38:00AM NOW, A HOMEOWNER MIGHT LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THEM THAT THEY ARE
11:38:05AM REBUILDING ON THEIR OWN HOME, AND WE WOULD HAVE A HOUSE WITH
11:38:10AM A NEW SIDEWALK AND A HOUSE THAT PAID THE FEE.
11:38:13AM THIS IS WHERE I THINK I WOULD PROPOSE BACK TO YOU, WHAT IS
11:38:16AM THE INTENT?
11:38:17AM I KNOW THE INTENT IS FOR US TO GET AS MANY SIDEWALKS AS WE
11:38:20AM CAN AND TO FINISH OUT OUR SYSTEM.
11:38:23AM SO TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT CRITERIA WOULD VEST THEM TO THE
11:38:29AM PRIOR $29 A LINEAR FOOT I THINK IS PART OF THE QUESTION.
11:38:36AM IF I RIP DOWN MY HOME TODAY AND I WANT TO REBUILD AND I HAD
11:38:40AM NOTHING TO DEAL WITH STORM DAMAGE, MY OBLIGATION, IF I DON'T
11:38:44AM ALREADY HAVE A SIDEWALK, THAT'S THE OTHER SCENARIO, RIGHT?
11:38:47AM SO WE HAVE SOME HOMES THAT HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT THEY GOT
11:38:50AM DEMOED FROM THE STORM AND THEY ARE GOING TO PUT BACK AND THE
11:38:53AM SIDEWALK IS ALREADY THERE.
11:38:54AM THAT'S KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IN TERMS
11:38:58AM OF THE STORM PERMITS THAT WE HAVE FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL WAS
11:39:00AM JUST OVER ABOUT 600.
11:39:07AM I'M WORKING THROUGH THE QUERY BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THEM SAID
11:39:13AM STORM DAMAGE.
11:39:13AM SO SOME OF THAT TAKES SOME UNPACKING OF THE ACTUAL PERMIT
11:39:19AM RECORDS TO UNDERSTAND THIS WAS THE SCENARIO OR THAT WAS THE
11:39:21AM SCENARIO.
11:39:21AM I THINK IF THE DIRECTIVE IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY
11:39:30AM TO ENSURE THAT IF YOU SUFFERED OVER 51%, YOU WERE CONSIDERED
11:39:36AM SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ELEVATE AND
11:39:40AM REBUILD YOUR HOME.
11:39:42AM AND THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, DID YOU HAVE AN EXISTING
11:39:44AM SIDEWALK.
11:39:44AM IF YOU DID, LEAVE IT.
11:39:46AM IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND ARE YOU
11:39:48AM GOING TO PUT ONE IN?
11:39:50AM OR YOU DON'T HAVE ONE AND YOU'RE SEEKING THE IN LIEU.
11:39:55AM AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THAT IN LIEU, WHAT I'M HEARING WOULD
11:39:59AM BE PREFERRED TO BE THE 29 FEET.
11:40:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:40:03AM MS. SCHARF HAS AN EXAMPLE THAT SOMEONE SENT US THAT SHE'S
11:40:09AM GOING TO PUT ON THE WOLF, IF WE COULD HAVE THE WOLF.
11:40:15AM SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, THE HOUSING QUESTION HAS THE RED DOT.
11:40:26AM THE NUMBERS, THE DATES ARE WHEN ALL THOSE OTHER HOUSES WERE
11:40:29AM REBUILT.
11:40:30AM 2019, 2022, 2019, 2022, 2023, NONE OF THOSE HAVE SIDEWALKS.
11:40:37AM SO THE PROBLEM HERE IS WHAT CARROLL ANN BROUGHT UP EARLIER
11:40:41AM OF PEOPLE USING THE EXCUSE, WELL, THERE AREN'T CONNECTING
11:40:45AM SIDEWALKS.
11:40:45AM SO WE HAVE TO FIND THAT BALANCE.
11:40:47AM SO WHATEVER THAT LOOPHOLE IS, THERE ARE NO CONNECTING
11:40:52AM SIDEWALKS.
11:40:52AM WE NEED TO TAKE THAT LOOPHOLE OUT.
11:40:54AM THAT LOOPHOLE CANNOT EXIST ANYMORE.
11:40:57AM I THINK THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE AS SHE BROUGHT UP, THE
11:41:03AM PERCENTAGES OF PEOPLE NOW USING THAT AS THEIR EXCUSE, WE
11:41:08AM HAVE TO STOP THAT.
11:41:09AM IN THIS CASE, THOUGH, ALL THOSE HOUSES ARE NEW, SO THERE'S
11:41:15AM GOING TO BE NOTHING TO CONNECT.
11:41:20AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ALL OF THOSE HOUSES ARE NEW, BUT SEVERAL ARE
11:41:24AM BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE AND SEVERAL ARE AFTER.
11:41:27AM AFTER YOU CLOSE IT, I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
11:41:31AM AFTER YOU CLOSED IT, WE EMPLOYED THE FORM AND HOW IT'S BEING
11:41:41AM REVIEWED AND WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION IS.
11:41:43AM WE TRACK.
11:41:46AM I HAVE A MONTHLY REPORT THAT COMES TO ME BEGINNING OF EVERY
11:41:50AM MONTH.
11:41:50AM TELLS ME HOW MANY WERE WAIVED, WHERE THEY WERE, WHAT THE
11:41:53AM LINEAR FOOTAGE WAS, HOW MUCH WAS PAID, WHAT THE ADDRESS IS
11:41:56AM AND ALL OF THAT.
11:41:57AM I'M IN THE PROCESS OF MAPPING THAT FOR YOU SO YOU CAN
11:42:00AM ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THIS HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE.
11:42:04AM PRIOR TO THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT, RIGHT, BECAUSE
11:42:07AM THERE WAS THE LOOPHOLE.
11:42:08AM THERE WAS THE NO PAY.
11:42:10AM THERE WAS THE OTHER CRITERIA.
11:42:12AM MOVING FORWARD FROM WHERE WE ARE, I CAN LOOK BUT I'M GOING
11:42:15AM TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT HAPPENED AFTER
11:42:20AM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NOW, GIVEN THAT CHANGE IN '22,
11:42:23AM THEN WE STARTED TRACKING ALL OF THAT.
11:42:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:42:28AM I THINK THAT'S FABULOUS.
11:42:29AM THRILLED TO HEAR YOU ARE DOING THAT BECAUSE I DO THINK THE
11:42:32AM PUBLIC WILL BE INTERESTED.
11:42:33AM JUST AT ONE POINT, WE JUST HAVE TO SAY BUILD THE SIDEWALK
11:42:38AM UNLESS THERE IS AN ACTUAL TREE OR A DITCH OR WHATEVER THE
11:42:42AM RATIONALE IS.
11:42:43AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK ONE OF YOUR OTHER PRIOR
11:42:46AM CONSIDERATIONS, IF I'M RECALLING CORRECTLY, IS THERE A FULL
11:42:50AM SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET?
11:42:52AM THAT, TOO, PLAYED A ROLE IN WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE THE
11:42:57AM CONNECTIVITY BUT JUST ON THE NORTH SIDE VERSUS THE SOUTH
11:42:59AM SIDE AND STILL HAVE A CONNECTED SYSTEM, THAT TOO IS
11:43:02AM VALUABLE, NOT ALWAYS THE IDEAL SITUATION, BUT WOULD WE
11:43:08AM RATHER TAKE THE IN LIEU AND COMPLETE WHAT'S ON THE OTHER
11:43:10AM SIDE OF THE STREET?
11:43:11AM I SPEAK TO THIS AND I KNOW BRANDON IS STILL HERE.
11:43:16AM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, WE DEAL WITH IT AT THE TIME OF THE
11:43:19AM PERMIT.
11:43:20AM WE COLLECT THE FUNDS.
11:43:21AM THE FUNDS THEN GOES TO MOBILITY.
11:43:22AM WHILE WE ARE REVIEWING AGAINST WHAT IS IN MOBILITY'S
11:43:25AM ORDINANCE, WE ARE MINDFUL OF HOW THIS PLAYS INTO THE WHOLE
11:43:29AM SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
11:43:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, I KNOW BECAUSE
11:43:38AM COUNCIL WENT KIND OF LIKE HARD ON THIS.
11:43:41AM HAVE YOU OBSERVED THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR MAYBE A STAFF
11:43:46AM REVIEW?
11:43:48AM IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MISSING?
11:43:50AM IF YOU WERE GOING TO CREATE A MORE PERFECT ORDINANCE, WOULD
11:43:53AM YOU HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR CREATE AN APPEAL PROCESS OR
11:43:58AM A WAIVER PROCESS?
11:44:00AM IS THERE SOMETHING YOU HAVE OBSERVED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
11:44:03AM SEE CHANGED?
11:44:05AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AS FAR AS THE FEE?
11:44:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELL, THE FEE AND ISSUES BRINGING UP TODAY
11:44:09AM ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMONSENSE APPLICATIONS.
11:44:12AM LIKE ONE PARTICULAR HOUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT OR HURRICANE
11:44:16AM DAMAGE, 50% PLUS.
11:44:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS A HURRICANE DAMAGED HOUSE.
11:44:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU SEE THIS AS A REAL PROBLEM OR JUST
11:44:26AM LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST?
11:44:32AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK COLLECTIVELY AND
11:44:34AM LOOK AT WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS PROVISION OF THE CODE IS.
11:44:39AM AND IT DOES LIVE IN MOBILITY.
11:44:40AM SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR BRANDON.
11:44:43AM WE'VE HAD OTHER DISCUSSIONS AS THIS HAS CONTINUED TO BE AT
11:44:48AM THE FOREFRONT OF OUR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY
11:44:52AM DISCUSSIONS OVER THE YEARS.
11:44:53AM THAT IS THAT WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OR HALF A MILE OF A
11:44:59AM SCHOOL, NO EXEMPTION.
11:45:00AM WE HAVE TO GET THE SIDEWALKS IN.
11:45:02AM THAT'S OUR PRIORITY.
11:45:02AM I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW HOW THESE WORK TOGETHER WITH WHAT'S
11:45:07AM IN THE PLAN AND THE PRIORITY SYSTEM IN ORDER TO KNOW HOW TO
11:45:10AM BEST SUPPORT BOTH THE CITY'S EFFORTS IN MAKING THESE
11:45:13AM CONNECTIONS AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER'S
11:45:18AM OBLIGATIONS IN MAKING THE CONNECTIONS AND HOW WE MOVE THOSE
11:45:21AM THINGS FORWARD TOGETHER.
11:45:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PERHAPS IN ANOTHER MONTH OR SO, WE'LL BE
11:45:25AM SIX MONTHS PAST THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS AND A YEAR PAST
11:45:28AM THE HURRICANES.
11:45:28AM MAYBE AT THAT POINT WE COULD DO A SIX-MONTH CHECK-IN ON THIS
11:45:36AM ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED -- COME BACK TO US AT A SIX-MONTH
11:45:44AM POINT, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A SUGGESTION OF -- DO A WELLNESS
11:45:51AM CHECK ON WHAT WE DID.
11:45:54AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
11:45:57AM WE PASSED THE CHANGE IN APRIL.
11:46:00AM SO APRIL 17.
11:46:03AM OCTOBER 17 WOULD BE THAT SIX MONTHS FROM WHEN WE DID IT TO
11:46:14AM SEE HOW MANY.
11:46:14AM I GET THE MONTHLY REPORT.
11:46:16AM IT AVERAGES EACH MONTH ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN PROPERTIES THAT
11:46:21AM ARE PAYING THE IN LIEU.
11:46:23AM I CAN'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD TELL YOU THREE OF THOSE ARE
11:46:27AM TREES AND FOUR OF THEM ARE SOMETHING.
11:46:29AM BUT I DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
11:46:31AM I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.
11:46:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TIE THIS UP.
11:46:33AM SO NOVEMBER 6.
11:46:36AM MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK NOVEMBER 6
11:46:43AM WITH AN EVALUATION AND THE CONSEQUENCES.
11:46:46AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?
11:46:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK BROUGHT UP A LOOPHOLE
11:46:52AM TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, WHICH I AGREE WITH.
11:46:54AM BUT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT OTHER THING.
11:46:57AM RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE -- THIS QUESTION IS ABOUT WHAT TO
11:46:59AM DO ABOUT HURRICANE.
11:47:00AM THE PROBLEM YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE PROBLEM JUST NOW.
11:47:03AM HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS.
11:47:04AM PEOPLE HOUSES, BECAUSE OF INSURANCE, DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING
11:47:13AM COVERED.
11:47:14AM HARD TIME COLLECTING MONEY.
11:47:15AM THEY ARE STRUGGLING TO TRY TO GET THE MONEY TO REBUILD THEIR
11:47:18AM HOUSES WITHOUT HAVING TO SELL THEM IN A FIRE SALE.
11:47:21AM SO THEY FINALLY GET TO THAT POINT.
11:47:23AM THEN THEY GO FOR THE PERMITS.
11:47:25AM I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBERS.
11:47:26AM YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS.
11:47:28AM BUT THEN THE CITY SAYS, OKAY, IF YOU CAN'T BUILD THE
11:47:31AM SIDEWALK, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE $24,000 FEE.
11:47:34AM THEY SAID $24,000, WHY IS THAT?
11:47:36AM AT LEAST IN A COUPLE OF CASES, THE STAFF SAID, WELL, USED TO
11:47:40AM BE 8,000.
11:47:41AM CITY COUNCIL AS OF APRIL 1 CHANGED TO 24,000.
11:47:45AM PEOPLE SAY CITY COUNCIL TRIPLED THE FEE FOR HURRICANE
11:47:49AM VICTIMS, WHY WOULD CITY COUNCIL TRIPLE THE FEE FOR HURRICANE
11:47:53AM VICTIMS?
11:47:53AM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
11:47:55AM THAT'S WHERE THE QUESTION AND PROBLEM CAME FROM.
11:47:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK THERE IS A POSSIBILITY YOU CAN
11:47:59AM CHANGE IT.
11:48:00AM THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD THE DISASTER IN THEIR HOUSE AND HAD
11:48:03AM TO REBUILD AND SO FORTH THAT ARE REALLY STRUGGLING, I THINK
11:48:07AM YOU OUGHT TO TAKE CARE OF THE ONES THAT BROUGHT IN AND GET
11:48:09AM YOUR PERMIT TO REBUILD THE PROPERTY, WHATEVER IT IS.
11:48:13AM THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU CAN GIVE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE
11:48:15AM YOUR PERMIT THAT YOU WENT TO THE CITY, GET A PERMIT TO
11:48:19AM REBUILD WHATEVER THE DAMAGE WAS TO THE PROPERTY.
11:48:23AM AND THEREFORE THOSE ARE ENTITLED TO IT.
11:48:25AM IT'S GOT TO BE WITH SOMETHING.
11:48:27AM JUST CAN'T BE BLANK.
11:48:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON CLEARLY DETAILED IT.
11:48:35AM MIGHT BE THE SAME INDIVIDUAL.
11:48:36AM AT LEAST ONE PERSON, REACH OUT TO MAYBE ALL OF US, WE'RE
11:48:40AM DOING THIS, WE'RE REBUILDING, HERE WE GET SLAPPED WITH 24,
11:48:43AM 25 THOUSAND DOLLAR FEE.
11:48:45AM SAME THING.
11:48:46AM COUNCIL, WHATEVER.
11:48:47AM I DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT, BUT IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
11:48:50AM AT THE VERY LEAST, IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIVE IT, YOU
11:48:54AM MENTIONED, SOMEBODY COMES IN AND BUYS 48 LOTS AND BUILDING
11:48:57AM ALL NEW SIDEWALKS, THEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'LL
11:49:00AM HAVE SPOTTY SIDEWALKS.
11:49:02AM AT LEAST IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIVE IT, ALLOW THOSE PEOPLE
11:49:06AM THAT WERE DAMAGED BY THE HURRICANE IN OCTOBER, WHENEVER IT
11:49:10AM WAS, ALMOST A YEAR AGO AND DID THEIR PERMITS AND GOT ALL THE
11:49:14AM CONSTRUCTION IN THE EXISTING HOME.
11:49:17AM THEY ARE TRYING TO REBUILD AND STAY IN THE HOME.
11:49:20AM THE ORIGINAL NAMES ON THE DEED, PUT THEM BACK TO THE
11:49:28AM PREVIOUS FEE BEFORE THE INCREASE.
11:49:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ABOUT CREATING -- COULD WE TODAY
11:49:39AM GRANT STAFF THE AUTHORITY TO ADMINISTRATIVELY WAIVE FEES
11:49:45AM TILL THE END OF THE YEAR FOR THESE HARDSHIP?
11:49:48AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR THAT IN THE
11:49:50AM ORDINANCE.
11:49:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE
11:49:54AM LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
11:49:55AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
11:49:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:49:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:49:58AM I CLEARLY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
11:50:02AM I SUPPORTED THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
11:50:03AM I THINK IT'S GREAT.
11:50:04AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM PHILOSOPHICALLY, IDEOLOGICALLY WITH
11:50:09AM PUTTING REGULATIONS AND DIFFERENT THINGS ON PEOPLE THAT GO
11:50:13AM FOR THE GREATER GOOD, SO LONG AS THEY ARE REASONABLE AND
11:50:16AM NARROWLY TAILORED AND SO FORTH FROM A PHILOSOPHICAL
11:50:19AM PERSPECTIVE.
11:50:20AM I'M REMINDED OF A BOOK BIG IN THE LATE 1990s, REMEMBER THE
11:50:24AM DEATH OF COMMON SENSE, FORGOT THE GENTLEMAN WHO WROTE IT,
11:50:27AM HOWARD PHILLIPS.
11:50:28AM WHATEVER HIS NAME WAS.
11:50:29AM THIS COULD BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU HAVE A VERY WELL
11:50:34AM ENDED REGULATION OR LAW THAT DOES GREAT THINGS, BUT THERE
11:50:37AM YOU HAVE THE EXCEPTION WHERE IT HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
11:50:41AM AND I THINK GIVEN THE TRAGEDY THAT WE WENT THROUGH A YEAR
11:50:44AM AGO, AND GOD WILLING WE DON'T GO THROUGH AGAIN, I DO THINK
11:50:49AM THAT SOME REFORM OF THE PROCESS IS WARRANTED, THAT'S VERY
11:50:52AM NARROWLY TAILORED.
11:50:54AM AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO UNDERMINE THE REVENUE CAPACITY, OR I
11:50:59AM SHOULD SAY THE SIDEWALK CAPACITY OF THE LAW.
11:51:03AM I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT SOMETHING.
11:51:05AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE'RE JUST TALKING.
11:51:07AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS.
11:51:09AM ONE I HEAR, THOUGH, IS AN ISSUE WITH 22-103 WHERE YOU'RE NOT
11:51:14AM IN FAVOR OF THE CRITERIA THAT TALKS ABOUT NO OTHER SIDEWALKS
11:51:20AM ON THE STREET.
11:51:21AM WHILE THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE
11:51:25AM TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL GET TO THAT RIGHT NOW IN A
11:51:27AM SECOND, THAT STILL, I THINK, NEEDS TO BE HANDLED WITH EITHER
11:51:32AM WORKING WITH BRANDON AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
11:51:37AM SO THAT'S ONE THING.
11:51:38AM WE'LL KIND OF PUT THAT IN THE JAR OVER HERE RIGHT NOW.
11:51:41AM IN RELATION TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, I WAS JUST TALKING
11:51:43AM WITH EMMA, WE COULD DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:51:46AM THIS IS ALL RIGHT ON THE FLY WITH YOU RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.
11:51:49AM ONE WOULD BE WE RESCIND WHERE YOU CHANGE THE FEE AND WE MAKE
11:51:56AM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OUT LATER.
11:51:59AM AND WE SAY, WHAT IS PRACTICAL?
11:52:00AM I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I NEED GUIDANCE THEN ON WHAT REALLY
11:52:06AM WAS STORM DAMAGE AND WHY I'M HERE.
11:52:08AM BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO WALK IN AND SAY THIS WAS STORM
11:52:11AM DAMAGE AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN AND I WANT TO
11:52:13AM PAY THE $29.
11:52:15AM THEN IT PUTS THE ONUS ONTO STAFF.
11:52:19AM UNLESS WE HAVE CLEAR, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, IF WE'RE SAYING
11:52:21AM OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS HURTING, LET'S LOOK AT THIS AND
11:52:25AM LET'S SAY WHILE WE CHANGE THIS APRIL 17, DO WE MAKE IT
11:52:29AM JANUARY 1st OF 2026?
11:52:31AM DO WE GIVE PEOPLE THAT TIME NOW THAT WE SEE THOSE PERMITS
11:52:35AM ARE COMING IN TO BENEFIT FROM THE $29 VERSUS THE 279?
11:52:43AM THAT IS ONE OPTION.
11:52:44AM LIKE I SAID, I'M STANDING HERE WORKING WITH YOU RIGHT NOW ON
11:52:48AM KIND OF WHAT SOME OF OUR OPTIONS ARE.
11:52:51AM OR, AS EMMA STATED, DO WE MAKE THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGE TO
11:52:54AM SOMEHOW CHANGE IT TO SPEAK TO THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND THEN
11:52:59AM IF WE DO THAT, HOW LONG IS THAT GOING TO TAKE?
11:53:02AM WHAT HAPPENS IN THE INTERIM AND ARE WE STILL AT THE SAME
11:53:05AM PLACE IF WE JUST ROLL IT BACK FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
11:53:08AM A COUPLE ON THE FLY OPTIONS WITH YOU RIGHT HERE AT THE
11:53:13AM PODIUM THIS MORNING.
11:53:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:53:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THOSE INDIVIDUALS EITHER HAD INSURANCE OR
11:53:31AM HAD FEMA CONVERSATION AND THERE ARE RECORDS OF THAT.
11:53:34AM SO THEY SHOULD BRING THE RECORDS.
11:53:36AM THEY DON'T HAVE IT.
11:53:37AM IF YOU DO THAT, IT CLEARS ALL THAT OUT.
11:53:39AM SOMEBODY HAS TO HAVE SOME RECORD OF SOMETIME YOU CAN GET IT
11:53:43AM WHEN YOU BUY IT AT HOME DEPOT, LOWES, THE CERTIFICATE AND
11:53:52AM THE DATE.
11:53:52AM THE CONCEPT IS THERE BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PROOF.
11:53:55AM GET IT FROM WHEREVER YOU BOUGHT YOUR LUMBER, ELECTRICAL,
11:53:59AM DRYWALL, FLOOR, YOU MUST BRING THAT IN.
11:54:05AM I'M SURE THEY HAVE THAT FOR THEIR OWN TAXES.
11:54:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:54:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY, THE REASON I TURNED MY LIGHT ON,
11:54:16AM WHAT DOES THAT ORDINANCE LOOK LIKE?
11:54:17AM WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO.
11:54:21AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS RIGHT, BUT IT'S REALLY THE PEOPLE WHO
11:54:24AM CAME TO YOU WITH THE 51%.
11:54:26AM IT'S NOT EVERYONE.
11:54:28AM IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO YOU WITH THE 51% THAT WE THE
11:54:32AM CITY DESIGNATED.
11:54:34AM SO WE CAN EASILY LOOK AT THOSE FOLKS.
11:54:38AM THIS APPLIES TO THE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED A 51% LETTER.
11:54:42AM AND THAT WAY WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT GOES TILL THE END OF
11:54:50AM MAYBE THIS YEAR, 2025.
11:54:52AM IF THEY HAVE ALREADY PAID IT, THEY CAN GET SOME MONEY BACK
11:54:56AM FOR IT.
11:54:57AM WHATEVER IT IS, SO I WOULD LIKE THAT ORDINANCE.
11:55:01AM EMMA, I'M SORRY, MS. GREGORY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE OUR OFFICE
11:55:08AM CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THAT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE OR IF COUNCIL
11:55:12AM MEMBER CARLSON, IT IS YOUR THING.
11:55:16AM IF YOU WANT TO WORK WITH MS. GREGORY INSTEAD.
11:55:19AM HOW SOON COULD WE BRING THAT ORDINANCE FORWARD?
11:55:28AM >> OBVIOUSLY IF COUNCIL MAKES THE MOTION, I WILL BE WORKING
11:55:30AM ON IT.
11:55:32AM I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MOVING PARTS HERE.
11:55:34AM THERE IS THE LANGUAGE DRAFTING ITSELF.
11:55:39AM THERE IS ANY STAFF IMPLICATIONS WITH BOTH MS. FEELEY'S INPUT
11:55:43AM AND MR. CAMPBELL'S INPUT.
11:55:45AM WHEN WE ARE LOOKING TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE, ONE OF THE
11:55:52AM CONSIDERATIONS IS THAT IT WILL APPLY TO EVERYBODY IN THE
11:55:55AM CITY.
11:55:57AM GOING TO APPLY JUST FOR THIS YEAR?
11:55:58AM ARE YOU LOOKING TO INCLUDE FUTURE HURRICANE, PROPERTIES THAT
11:56:03AM ARE IMPACTED BY FUTURE HURRICANES?
11:56:05AM I WOULD ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO CONSIDER ALL OF
11:56:09AM THESE THINGS.
11:56:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:56:12AM I THINK THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS HURRICANE.
11:56:16AM I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN --
11:56:18AM >> MILTON AND HELENE?
11:56:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:56:22AM THE PAST.
11:56:22AM NOT THE FUTURE.
11:56:23AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST AND NOT THE FUTURE.
11:56:27AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: FROM SEPTEMBER 20 WHATEVER IT WAS.
11:56:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 2024.
11:56:32AM HELENE AND MILTON.
11:56:33AM BECAUSE IF THERE ARE OTHER HURRICANES WHERE PEOPLE HAD 51%
11:56:40AM OF DAMAGE --
11:56:44AM >> THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.
11:56:46AM HURRICANE SEASON ISN'T OVER THIS YEAR.
11:56:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
11:56:54AM >> I WOULD SUGGEST SOME TIME FOR ALL OF US TO THINK ABOUT
11:56:58AM SOME OF THESE THINGS.
11:56:58AM I CERTAINLY HEAR YOUR REQUEST, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE
11:57:02AM CHANGING THIS ORDINANCE EVERY YEAR.
11:57:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, THOUGH, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD APPLY
11:57:11AM IF PEOPLE HAD HURRICANE DAMAGE TOMORROW, BECAUSE WE CHANGED
11:57:15AM THE ORDINANCE IN APRIL.
11:57:18AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PAST.
11:57:19AM WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.
11:57:21AM THE FUTURE IS 200 AND WHATEVER DOLLARS.
11:57:27AM THAT'S THE FUTURE.
11:57:27AM THAT IS.
11:57:29AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT CLARIFICATION IS VERY HELPFUL.
11:57:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO CLOSE THE
11:57:34AM LOOPHOLE ON NO SIDEWALKS ON THE STREET.
11:57:37AM THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
11:57:39AM SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CHANGE.
11:57:42AM I REALLY, I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO DO THIS.
11:57:45AM BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT.
11:57:47AM BUT IF WHAT WE CAN DO TODAY IS SAY THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD
11:57:50AM ON AN ORDINANCE THAT MIGHT ONLY BE PASSED AND BE VIABLE FOR
11:57:55AM A MONTH, THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE IF WE PUT THAT NOTIFICATION
11:58:02AM THAT WE WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET MONEY BACK IF THEY WERE
11:58:04AM PART OF THE 51% AND PAID IT AND THEY CAN GET -- THAT, I
11:58:08AM THINK, SOLVES THAT PROBLEM AND PEOPLE CAN SAY, OKAY, COUNCIL
11:58:13AM IS WORKING ON THIS ORDINANCE.
11:58:14AM IF I HAVE TO PAY THIS MONEY, I WILL GET IT BACK.
11:58:17AM SO THAT IS WHAT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
11:58:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AFTER THE HURRICANES, ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE
11:58:26AM WAIVED FEES.
11:58:28AM THAT DIDN'T COME BEFORE COUNCIL, CORRECT?
11:58:33AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE WAIVED PERMIT FEES.
11:58:35AM I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
11:58:36AM THAT WAS DONE UNDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT GOVERNOR
11:58:38AM DESANTIS AND THE MAYOR AND THE LOCAL, SO WE HAD A STATE
11:58:43AM EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THEN A LOCAL WHICH ALLOWED US THIS
11:58:46AM OPPORTUNITY.
11:58:46AM THAT ENDED AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH.
11:58:50AM AT THAT TIME, THE DAY IT ENDED, I ASKED CITY ATTORNEY
11:58:56AM ZELMAN, I CAN'T JUST TURN THIS OFF TOMORROW IF SOMEBODY
11:59:00AM WALKS IN OUR OFFICE.
11:59:01AM CAN WE PLEASE PUT A NOTICE UP THAT SAYS STARTING MARCH 1 --
11:59:05AM SORRY, IT ENDED IN FEBRUARY.
11:59:06AM STARTING MARCH 1st, ROUGHLY LIKE 14 DAYS AFTER IT ENDED,
11:59:11AM WE WILL END DOING THE PERMIT FEES.
11:59:13AM SHE LEGALLY WAS OKAY WITH THAT AND INFORMING THE PUBLIC IN
11:59:18AM THAT MANNER.
11:59:19AM SO THAT'S WHEN WE WENT BACK MARCH 1st, I BELIEVE, AND PUT
11:59:25AM EVERYTHING BACK IN BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
11:59:29AM WAIVE THE PERMIT FEES.
11:59:30AM WE NEVER WAIVED THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEES BECAUSE THOSE ARE
11:59:35AM A FEE YOU HAVE ELECTED TO PAY IN TERMS OF YOUR PERMITTING
11:59:38AM ACTIVITY.
11:59:41AM LIKE, WE NEVER WAIVED IMPACT FEES.
11:59:44AM LIKE, WE ONLY HAD THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THE PERMIT FEE.
11:59:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PROBABLY IMPRACTICAL TO FIGURE OUT AN
11:59:52AM ADMINISTRATIVE WAY OF HANDLING THIS IT SOUNDS LIKE.
11:59:54AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:59:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: ISN'T IT POSSIBLE TO AMEND AN ORDINANCE?
12:00:00PM YOU CREATE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AN ORDINANCE, INSTEAD OF
12:00:03PM REWRITING THE WHOLE THING, CREATE AN AMENDMENT, LIKE A
12:00:06PM SCRIVENER'S ERROR THING.
12:00:08PM >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
12:00:10PM >> IT WOULD NOT BE A SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
12:00:12PM IT WOULD BE A REWRITE.
12:00:13PM AN AMENDMENT.
12:00:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I TRY TO MAKE A MOTION?
12:00:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO FOR IT.
12:00:25PM >> THE FEE IS IN THE FEE SCHEDULE.
12:00:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: LET ME TRY THIS AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
12:00:29PM THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER DETAIL WE CAN ADD.
12:00:32PM MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO RETURN ON -- PICK A DATE --
12:00:36PM NOVEMBER 6 --
12:00:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THAT TOO EARLY?
12:00:42PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: PART OF WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THIS WOULD
12:00:43PM BE RETROACTIVE.
12:00:45PM IT'S NOT STOPPING ANYBODY.
12:00:46PM WHAT I'LL ASK MY TEAM TO DO THIS AFTERNOON IS GO BACK AND
12:00:50PM SEE HOW MANY RIGHT NOW WE MIGHT BE REFUNDING, AND WHAT THOSE
12:00:55PM ACTUAL NUMBERS LOOK LIKE.
12:00:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO FOR NOVEMBER 6 AND IF YOU HAVE TO
12:01:00PM CONTINUE.
12:01:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO RETURN ON
12:01:04PM NOVEMBER 6 WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO ENABLE
12:01:10PM HOMEOWNERS WHOSE HOMES WERE DAMAGED BY MILTON AND HELENE,
12:01:18PM DAMAGED 51% OR MORE BY MILTON AND HELENE, TO BE
12:01:25PM GRANDFATHERED INTO THE OLD SIDEWALK RATE UNTIL DECEMBER 31,
12:01:36PM 2025.
12:01:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL SUPPORT IT, BUT WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING
12:01:40PM ABOUT A RETROACTIVE --
12:01:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T SAY RETROACTIVE.
12:01:48PM I SAID A BLANKET THING FOR ANYBODY -- IT SAYS TO ENABLE
12:01:52PM HOMEOWNERS WHOSE HOMES WERE DAMAGED 51% OR MORE BY MILTON OR
12:01:56PM HELENE TO BE GRANDFATHERED INTO THE OLD SIDEWALK RATE --
12:02:03PM >> FEE TABLE.
12:02:04PM >> $29 A LINEAR FOOT.
12:02:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: UNTIL DECEMBER 31st 2025.
12:02:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:02:22PM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:02:23PM ABBYE FEELEY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD BEFORE WE VOTE?
12:02:27PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO.
12:02:28PM I'LL WAIT.
12:02:29PM THANK YOU.
12:02:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:02:31PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:02:32PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:02:34PM OPPOSED?
12:02:34PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
12:02:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL TAKE ON THE PART OF WORKING WITH YOU
12:02:40PM ALL.
12:02:41PM I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SEND IT TO ALL COUNCIL
12:02:44PM MEMBERS BEFORE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
12:02:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WOULD JUST SAY IN RELATION TO YOUR OTHER
12:02:53PM CONCERN, THEN THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE MOTION AS TO HOW YOU
12:02:58PM WOULD LIKE TO HANDLE THAT IN LOOKING AT 22-103 AND THE
12:03:02PM CRITERIA ASSOCIATED WITH PAYING FEE IN LIEU.
12:03:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET'S TRY THAT.
12:03:12PM I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK AND I'M ALSO GOING
12:03:20PM TO PUT THAT NOVEMBER 6 DATE IN AGAIN.
12:03:23PM IF IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, THAT'S FINE.
12:03:26PM HOW ABOUT DECEMBER -- CAN I TELL BY YOUR FACE.
12:03:31PM NO, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
12:03:33PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WOULD LIKE TO PRIORITIZE WHAT YOU WOULD
12:03:35PM LIKE FIRST.
12:03:37PM BECAUSE I DO FEEL THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST
12:03:41PM DISCUSSION ON THE SECOND MATTER.
12:03:42PM I THINK ALLOWING TBBA AND ALLOWING US TO LET SOME OF OUR
12:03:47PM ADVISORY GROUPS KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS FURTHER
12:03:51PM DISCUSSION AND HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT I THINK WOULD
12:03:53PM BE BENEFICIAL.
12:03:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL ASK STAFF TO COME BACK DECEMBER 4 WITH
12:03:58PM INITIAL CONVERSATION, NOT AN ORDINANCE, BUT INITIAL
12:04:03PM CONVERSATION ABOUT 22-103-C-1.
12:04:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CAN YOU MAKE THAT FOR MOBILITY?
12:04:15PM MOBILITY WOULD BE LEAD ON THAT.
12:04:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST SAID STAFF IN GENERAL.
12:04:20PM THAT WAY YOU ALL CAN DECIDE WHERE IT GOES.
12:04:23PM SECTION 22-103-C, SUBSECTION 1, WHETHER THERE IS NO EXISTING
12:04:32PM SIDEWALK TO WHICH THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK CAN CONNECT, WE
12:04:34PM WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TAKING OUT THAT PROVISION, BUT ALSO
12:04:39PM ALLOWING FOR A PROVISION IF THERE IS A SIDEWALK ACROSS THE
12:04:43PM STREET.
12:04:43PM SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
12:04:46PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
12:04:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID YOU CAPTURE ENOUGH OF THAT?
12:04:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MOTION IS TO HAVE THEM COME BACK WITH
12:04:59PM SOME SUGGESTIONS BEFORE WE GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE
12:05:03PM CONVERSATIONS.
12:05:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET YOUR INTENT.
12:05:05PM I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THEM CAPTURING THAT IN WRITING.
12:05:08PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I HAVE
12:05:10PM THE DATA FROM THE LAST TWO YEARS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HOW
12:05:13PM MANY HAVE ACTUALLY USED THAT EXCEPTION AND WHETHER THAT IS
12:05:17PM THE PREDOMINANT EXEMPTION.
12:05:20PM I ALSO HAVE THE ADDRESSES AND THE MAP.
12:05:22PM WE HAVE A GOOD STARTING POINT ON THAT.
12:05:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD DISCUSSION.
12:05:25PM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:05:25PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:05:27PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
12:05:28PM OPPOSED?
12:05:28PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
12:05:29PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THE LAST LITTLE BIT
12:05:32PM OF BUSINESS BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH.
12:05:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM 71 BECAUSE MS. FEELEY IS HERE.
12:05:40PM I WAS LATE TO COUNCIL TODAY.
12:05:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CONTINUED THAT TO 10/23.
12:05:47PM WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN AT 1:30.
12:05:52PM WE HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE COMING AT 1:30 AND THEN NEW BUSINESS.
12:05:55PM IF YOU GUYS COULD BE IN YOUR SEATS AND READY TO GO AT 1:30.
12:05:59PM WE ARE ON BREAK FOR LUNCH.
12:06:01PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:06:02PM [LUNCH RECESS]
01:30:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CALL THE CITY OF TAMPA BACK TO ORDER.
01:30:21PM HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GOOD LUNCH.
01:30:23PM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
01:30:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:30:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:30:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:30:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:30:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:30:31PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A QUORUM.
01:30:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TWO ITEMS OF BUSINESS.
01:30:36PM TIME CERTAIN FOR ITEM 69.
01:30:38PM STAFF TO PRESENT A MONTHLY REPORT ON THE UPDATE OF FIRE
01:30:45PM STATION 24.
01:30:46PM SO, CHIEF.
01:30:47PM HI, TIM.
01:30:51PM STAFF REPORT.
01:31:01PM WE DON'T NEED MARTY.
01:31:04PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:31:34PM BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
01:31:38PM OF COURSE, WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT AND GIVE YOU INFORMATION
01:31:40PM AS FAR AS THE UPDATE ON STATION 24.
01:31:42PM I HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER HERE AS WELL, AND I WILL LET HIM
01:31:45PM INTRODUCE HIMSELF.
01:31:46PM AND WE WERE ABLE -- I DON'T KNOW IF CCTV WAS ABLE TO PUT IT
01:31:52PM UP, BUT WE CAN PRESENT IT ON --
01:31:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CCTV IF YOU HAVE IT UP -- WE HAVE
01:31:57PM SOMETHING HERE -- LOOKS LIKE WE DO.
01:32:00PM IF YOU CAN PUT THE PRESENTATION UP ON THE CHAMBER'S LARGE
01:32:03PM SCREENS, THAT WILL BE GREAT.
01:32:04PM BROADCAST.
01:32:06PM THERE WE GO.
01:32:07PM >> GREAT.
01:32:08PM WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
01:32:10PM AGAIN, MY NAME IS KEN GUYETTE.
01:32:14PM WE ARE THE PROJECT MANAGERS FOR THIS FIRE STATION 24 PROJECT.
01:32:17PM AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE CORE TEAM OF
01:32:21PM THE PROJECT ON THIS FIRST SLIDE.
01:32:22PM AND AS WE GET INTO THIS LATEST UPDATE, I WANT TO TALK A
01:32:28PM LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY MILESTONES THAT WERE MET
01:32:32PM THIS LAST -- SINCE WE LAST SPOKE.
01:32:34PM FIRST OF WHICH WAS THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE.
01:32:37PM THE PLAN UPDATES FOR SCHEMATIC DESIGN WAS COMPLETED A LITTLE
01:32:41PM AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON THE SECOND OF SEPTEMBER.
01:32:43PM THE TREE MITIGATION SURVEY HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
01:32:46PM WE HAVE POWERLINE RELOCATION DISCUSSIONS ONGOING WITH TECO.
01:32:51PM IF YOU RECALL, WE HAVE POWER LINES ON THE SITE AND SEE IF WE
01:32:54PM CAN GET THOSE BURIED, AND THOSE OPTIONS ARE BEING WEIGHED ON
01:32:57PM RIGHT NOW AND DISCUSSED.
01:32:58PM I THINK THE PREFERRED OPTION BY ALL IS TO BURY THOSE LINES
01:33:02PM AND MAKE SURE WE ARE CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION WITH TECO.
01:33:05PM VACATING THE ALCOLU ROAD.
01:33:14PM IT WAS PASSED.
01:33:15PM GOOD NEWS.
01:33:16PM WE WILL CONTINUE TO MARCH FORWARD BASED ON THAT AND WILL
01:33:18PM BASICALLY COMBINE THESE TWO PARCEL INTO ONE, WHICH WILL BE
01:33:22PM GOOD FOR THE PROJECT.
01:33:22PM TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGN AND THE UPDATE ON THE
01:33:26PM DESIGN, THE LATEST SITE PLAN.
01:33:28PM THE THREE LARGE GREEN CIRCLES AROUND HERE ARE THE GRAND
01:33:35PM TREES.
01:33:36PM THEY ARE ON THE GRAND LIST AND SHOWING ALL THOSE TREES BEING
01:33:39PM SAVED AROUND -- KEPT ON-SITE.
01:33:40PM SO THERE IS TREE MITIGATION AND PROTECTION ON -- WITHIN THE
01:33:44PM CONTRACT DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD TO ENSURE
01:33:47PM THAT THOSE TREES ARE NOT DAMAGED IN ANY WAY DUE TO ANY
01:33:50PM CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.
01:33:51PM I SPOKE LAST TIME.
01:33:54PM WE DID -- AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE UNDERGROUND
01:33:58PM DRAINAGE STRUCTURES THAT ARE A BIG PART OF THE COST OF THE
01:34:01PM PROJECT.
01:34:01PM AND IF YOU LOOK DIRECTLY TO THE RIGHT -- TO THE EAST SIDE OF
01:34:04PM THE -- OF THE PLAN THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU.
01:34:07PM ALL THOSE LINES MEAN THAT THERE IS A DEPRESSION THERE, AND THE
01:34:12PM STORMWATER MITIGATION WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN WITH THE
01:34:15PM SEDIMENTATION RETENTION POND TO THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE
01:34:18PM PROPERTY.
01:34:18PM JUST AGAIN TO ORIENT YOURSELF, WE ACCESS THE PROPERTY
01:34:22PM THROUGH THE FAR WESTERN SIDE OF THE PLAN, UP THE DRIVEWAY.
01:34:27PM THERE IS A SECURITY GATE THAT ALLOWS ACCESS TO THE TEAM, FIRE
01:34:30PM STATION TEAM ONLY.
01:34:34PM THERE ARE FOUR PARKING SPOTS IMMEDIATELY TO THE RIGHT AS YOU
01:34:37PM ENTER.
01:34:38PM THOSE ARE FOR VISITOR PARKING.
01:34:39PM YOU ENTER THROUGH THE SECURITY GATES.
01:34:41PM COME AROUND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
01:34:43PM THAT'S WHERE YOU WILL HAVE ENTRANCE AND EGRESS INTO THE
01:34:46PM APPARATUS BAYS ,AND APPARATUS WILL EXIT AND EGRESS OUT OF THE
01:34:52PM SOUTH PART OF THE BAY AGAIN BACK ON EAST WHITE WAY.
01:34:56PM ONE OF THE REQUESTED ITEMS WAS THE PERCENTAGE OF IMPERVIOUS
01:35:04PM SERVICE CALCULATED CURRENTLY AT 42% IMPERVIOUS SURFACE
01:35:08PM RATIO.
01:35:10PM IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE CAN GET THAT FROM
01:35:13PM THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND GET THAT OVER TO THE COUNCIL.
01:35:15PM HERE IS THE UPDATED FLOOR PLAN.
01:35:18PM A COUPLE OF KEY NOTES ON THE FLOOR PLAN ARE WE ARE ABLE TO REDUCE
01:35:22PM SQUARE FOOTAGE AND CONTINUE AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE TO
01:35:24PM MAKE IT A MORE EFFICIENT PLAN TO REDUCE SQUARE FOOTAGE WHERE
01:35:28PM IT SEEMS PRUDENT WITHOUT COMPROMISING PROGRAM.
01:35:31PM THIS FLOOR PLAN AS CURRENTLY INSTITUTED WILL HAVE TWO FIRE
01:35:37PM FIGHTERS, ONE CAPTAIN, ONE LIEUTENANT, ONE DISTRICT CHIEF --
01:35:40PM EXCUSE ME, AT THREE SHIFTS.
01:35:42PM SO THREE SHIFTS.
01:35:43PM IT WILL BE THREE SHIFTS OF ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS CARRIED
01:35:47PM FORWARD THAT WILL BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THIS PLAN.
01:35:51PM CURRENTLY, THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE -- SO OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE
01:36:05PM BEEN ABLE TO SHRINK THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE DOWN CONSIDERABLY.
01:36:08PM AND THE ORIGINAL GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE ORIGINAL SPACE
01:36:13PM NEEDS ASSESSMENT WAS 24,135 GROSS SQUARE FEET.
01:36:17PM SO WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY MAKE THIS A MUCH MORE
01:36:19PM EFFICIENT PLAN AND REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH WILL
01:36:23PM THEN TURN INTO SAVINGS ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE.
01:36:26PM THE NEXT FOUR SLIDES ARE THE EXTERIOR RENDERINGS.
01:36:32PM AND, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST GRAPHIC REPRESENTATIONS WHAT THE
01:36:36PM BUILDING ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
01:36:37PM THERE WILL BE SOME MORE ITERATIONS AGAIN, SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE.
01:36:42PM AS WE GO THROUGH DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND INTO CONSTRUCTION
01:36:45PM DOCUMENTS, THIS WILL BE, AGAIN, MORE ENHANCED AS WE GO
01:36:50PM FORWARD.
01:36:50PM THE COLORS MAY CHANGE SLIGHTLY DEPENDING ON WHAT THE
01:36:54PM REACTION IS TO THE TEAM, ETC., ETC.
01:36:57PM BUT, BY IN LARGE, THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE FROM THE SOUTHWEST OF
01:37:01PM THE BUILDING.
01:37:02PM THE SOUTHEAST IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
01:37:04PM LOOKING AT THE APPARATUS BAYS.
01:37:08PM THIS IS THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE YOU WILL SEE THE
01:37:12PM EXTERIOR AREA FOR THE PHYSICAL AGILITY SPACE, OUTDOOR
01:37:17PM PHYSICAL AGILITY SPACE, AS WELL AS OUTDOOR DINING AREA.
01:37:22PM AND THEN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS, AGAIN, LOOKING
01:37:26PM AT THE INGRESS SIDE OF THE VEHICLE APPARATUS BAY.
01:37:35PM PROJECT SCHEDULE.
01:37:36PM WE ARE CURRENTLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND WORKING TO IMPROVE
01:37:41PM THOSE.
01:37:42PM LAST TIME WE MET, WE HAD SEVERAL OPTIONS AND THINGS TOO LOOK
01:37:47PM AT AS WE MARCH THIS FROM SCHEMATIC TO DESIGN THAT WE WILL
01:37:53PM WORK TOWARD.
01:37:53PM SOME OF THOSE STARTED TO SHOW -- COME TO FRUITION.
01:37:56PM ONE OF THOSE IS THE USE OF TILT-UP WALL CONSTRUCTION IN THIS
01:38:00PM EARLY DESIGN.
01:38:01PM WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AT THE LAST MEETING.
01:38:03PM IT WILL DEFINITELY SAVE ON CONSTRUCTION TIME.
01:38:06PM WE WILL KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW MUCH TIME IT WILL SAVE AS
01:38:10PM WE GET MORE OF THE UPCOMING MILESTONES OF CONSTRUCTABILITY
01:38:16PM AND ESTIMATE FOR SCHEMATIC DESIGN, WHICH IS DUE THE MIDDLE
01:38:19PM OF OCTOBER.
01:38:20PM THIS IS WHERE NOW THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER GETS TO TAKE A
01:38:23PM LOOK AT THE PLANS.
01:38:24PM HE GETS TO PUT SOME NUMBERS AND TIMELINE TO IT.
01:38:27PM AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO, AGAIN, WORK TO REDUCE BOTH OF THOSE
01:38:31PM NUMBERS AS WE KEEP MARCHING FORWARD.
01:38:33PM JUST A GOOD BAROMETER AS WE WORK THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC
01:38:37PM DESIGN PHASE.
01:38:38PM THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE IN COMPLETION, WHICH INCLUDES THE
01:38:41PM CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE AND CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW, WILL BE
01:38:45PM COMPLETE BY THE END OF OCTOBER 10, 2024 TO BE EXACT.
01:38:50PM AND BEGIN DESIGN ELEMENTS, FURTHER DESIGN ENHANCEMENTS, AND
01:38:55PM FURTHER DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS THAT WILL HAVE A FULL SET OF
01:39:00PM CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
01:39:04PM DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
01:39:05PM THOSE PLAN UPDATES WILL BE COMPLETED ON OR ABOUT THE 9th OF
01:39:11PM DECEMBER.
01:39:11PM WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO REDUCE THE REVIEW TIMES.
01:39:16PM AND REVIEW TIMES HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY SWIFT WITH -- WITH TFR
01:39:20PM AND THEIR TEAM.
01:39:21PM AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO REDUCE PERMITTING DURATIONS,
01:39:25PM WORK TO REDUCE THE DESIGN DURATIONS.
01:39:27PM AND STILL CONTINUE TO LOOK UP EARLY ENABLING WORK AND PUSH
01:39:31PM TO GET SOMETHING THAT IS OUT ON-SITE EARLY.
01:39:34PM AND THAT WILL -- THAT WILL BE TELLING AS WE GET INTO THE
01:39:37PM FIRST CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW AND GET INTO SOME OF THE
01:39:42PM CONVERSATIONS IN MORE -- IN MORE FINER DETAIL, DETAIL DURING
01:39:48PM CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW.
01:39:49PM SO WITH THAT, IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE MORE THAN
01:39:53PM HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
01:39:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:39:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:39:57PM AND THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
01:39:59PM I APPRECIATE IT.
01:40:00PM I APPRECIATE CHIEF TRIPP YOUR HARD WORK AND MR. MUTTERBACK
01:40:05PM FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND LOCAL 754 PUSHING FOR THIS AS
01:40:09PM WELL.
01:40:10PM I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
01:40:12PM QUICK QUESTION, SIR.
01:40:13PM WHEN DO WE -- AN AMENDED DATE FOR GROUNDBREAKING.
01:40:19PM IF I RECALL -- I DIDN'T SLEEP A LOT LAST NIGHT FOR SOME
01:40:24PM REASON, SEPTEMBER 26, THE ROUGH DATE.
01:40:27PM >> SHOWING IN THEIR SCHEDULE AND CONSTRUCTABILITY AND COST
01:40:31PM ESTIMATE IN OCTOBER, AND HOPEFULLY WILL PULL THAT DATE BACK
01:40:36PM AND HAVE A BETTER CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW.
01:40:39PM >> HOW MUCH TIME DID THAT SHAVE OFF?
01:40:41PM I AM NOT GOING TO HOLD TO YOU IT, BY THE WAY.
01:40:43PM >> WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WILL SHAVE OFF A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT
01:40:46PM OF TIME WITH TILT-WALL CONSTRUCTION AND HOPEFULLY SHAVE OFF
01:40:50PM WEEKS IF NOT DAYS OFF OF THAT SCHEDULE.
01:40:52PM HOPEFULLY MONTHS IF WE CAN GET THAT.
01:40:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, SIR.
01:40:57PM I WAS SPEAKING TO MR. MUTTERBACK WHO WAS SAYING WHAT A GREAT
01:41:01PM JOB YOU HAVE DONE AND WHAT A VALUABLE ASSET YOU HAVE BEEN IN
01:41:04PM HELPING CHIEF TRIPP AND EVERYBODY ON THIS.
01:41:06PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
01:41:08PM WHEN DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE, ACCORDINGLY, THEN READY TO OPEN
01:41:11PM AND EVERYTHING?
01:41:12PM LITTLE BIT OF TIME OFF, YOU THINK?
01:41:15PM >> YEAH, EXACTLY.
01:41:16PM SO -- WE ARE GOING TO GET THAT -- AGAIN, THAT GRAND OPENING,
01:41:20PM THAT -- THAT RIBBON-CUTTING PULLED BACK AT LEAST THE SAME
01:41:23PM KIND OF DURATION AS THE EARLY ON-SITE, GETTING THE
01:41:29PM GROUNDBREAKING.
01:41:29PM WHEREVER WE CAN PULL BACK THE TIME HOPEFULLY BE REFLECT
01:41:33PM THROUGH THE DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION.
01:41:34PM AND, AGAIN, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF GETTING THAT
01:41:37PM PULLED BACK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
01:41:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
01:41:40PM I THINK IT'S '27.
01:41:44PM I WILL BE OUT OF HERE BUT WHOEVER COUNCIL PICKS AS MY
01:41:48PM REPLACEMENT AND THE VOTERS PICK, WILL BE A GREAT
01:41:51PM CELEBRATION.
01:41:51PM THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT PLACES THE LAST THREE FIRE
01:41:56PM STATIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA NORTH AND NEW TAMPA.
01:42:01PM THIS IS NORTH TAMPA.
01:42:02PM WE HAVE 23 IN NEW TAMPA FOR GRAND HAMPTON AREA.
01:42:06PM 25 THAT IS -- SULPHUR SPRINGS AND GEARED TOWARD NORTH TAMPA
01:42:11PM TO HELP OUT WITH STATION 13.
01:42:12PM ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE WORKED ON WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND
01:42:15PM THEN JOE GRECO WAS THE HEAD OF UNION, IF I RECALL.
01:42:20PM SO THIS IS GOING TO FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED, SO TO SPEAK ON
01:42:23PM THIS WITH -- AND HELPING OUT NORTH TAMPA.
01:42:26PM I -- YOU KNOW, I THINK I LAST WENT TO STATION 13 ON LABOR
01:42:30PM DAY.
01:42:31PM AND THEY -- THEY ARE DOING BETTER, THANK GOD, WHICH IS GREAT.
01:42:34PM THEY SEE DIFFERENCE WITH STATION 25 AND HELPING THEM OUT
01:42:39PM WITH RESPONSE TIMES AND WORKLOAD AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
01:42:43PM I ALWAYS SAY -- YOU KNOW, I -- WE HAVE -- NOT TO TALK
01:42:47PM POLITICS, BUT WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP FOR MAYOR.
01:42:51PM AND OBVIOUSLY, I AM NOT RUNNING FOR MAYOR.
01:42:53PM I AM NOT RUNNING FOR CITY OFFICE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE,
01:42:56PM JUST AS SOMEBODY THAT CARES A LOT FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
01:43:00PM I REALLY HOPE WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION IN THAT
01:43:03PM ELECTION ON FIRE STATIONS.
01:43:05PM I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION TO
01:43:08PM REALLY, REALLY HIT THAT ISSUE VERY HARD.
01:43:11PM I KNOW WE ARE WORKING ON THE -- THE FLEET MAINTENANCE AND
01:43:16PM MOVING THAT OUT OF STATION 9 TO HELP EXPAND ROOM IN STATION
01:43:22PM 9 TO ASSIST WITH EXTENSION OF A GROWING WEST TAMPA.
01:43:26PM I MAINTAIN WE NEED ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS IN NEW TAMPA.
01:43:29PM LIKE I TALKED IN THE BUDGET HEARING, DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
01:43:32PM I HOPE THAT IS A BIG DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS SHOULD BE THE
01:43:35PM BEGINNING.
01:43:36PM AGAIN, I STATED MY POSITION MANY TIMES WITH MY DISAGREEMENT
01:43:39PM WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON FIRE STATIONS, BUT I AM JUST GLAD
01:43:42PM TO SEE THIS HAPPEN AND GLAD TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE
01:43:46PM GETTING IN.
01:43:47PM AGAIN, THAT'S -- EVERYBODY HAS THEIR FUNCTION.
01:43:50PM AND I AM AN ATTORNEY.
01:43:51PM I AM A VERY GOOD -- I AM GOOD IN COURT.
01:43:54PM I AM GOOD IN DEPOSITIONS.
01:43:56PM THIS AND THAT.
01:43:57PM YOU GIVE ME LEGAL RESEARCH, I WILL GIVE IT TO A POINDEXTER.
01:44:01PM EVERYBODY HAS THEIR STRENGTH AT THINGS AND THAT IS THE WAY
01:44:05PM IT IS.
01:44:05PM WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND HELPING FOLKS OUT BECAUSE I
01:44:08PM THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT.
01:44:09PM THAT'S IT.
01:44:10PM THANK YOU, SIR.
01:44:11PM THANK YOU, CHIEF.
01:44:12PM THANK YOU, MR. MUTTERBACK.
01:44:15PM THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
01:44:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:44:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:44:18PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FOR THOSE POINTS, AND THE
01:44:22PM QUESTIONS OF THE TIMELINE WERE MINE AS WELL.
01:44:24PM BUT I AM GOING TO GO TO THE OTHER SIDE.
01:44:25PM I HEARD YOU SAY "SAVINGS."
01:44:28PM WHEN I HEARD "SAVINGS," THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT YOU
01:44:31PM MENTIONED THAT THERE IS NO LONGER A VAULT.
01:44:33PM WE MOVED IT.
01:44:34PM SO IN THAT OCTOBER UPDATE, WILL WE ALSO HAVE AN UPDATE ON
01:44:40PM THE SAVINGS?
01:44:42PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
01:44:42PM THE INTENT IS TO HAVE A CONSTRUCTION BUDGET BACK FROM THE
01:44:45PM CONTRACTOR THAT WILL GIVE US AN ESTIMATE WHERE WE ARE
01:44:48PM STANDING WITH CONSTRUCTION.
01:44:49PM AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT VALUE MANAGEMENT AS WE WORK
01:44:52PM FORWARD TO GET THAT NUMBER BACK DOWN AS WE ARE CONTINUING ON
01:44:55PM TO THE NEXT PHASE.
01:44:55PM INTENT IS THAT WE SEE THE NUMBER NOW.
01:44:58PM HOPEFULLY, IT IS GOOD.
01:44:59PM WE WORK TO GET IT DOWN, MORE, MORE, MORE.
01:45:02PM DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
01:45:03PM HAPPENS AGAIN AND ANOTHER CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW AND ANOTHER
01:45:06PM CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE.
01:45:07PM LIKEWISE IN CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PHASE, WE ARE GOING TO GET
01:45:10PM THE SAME THING.
01:45:11PM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT COST ESTIMATES BETWEEN
01:45:13PM NOW AND THE TIME IT ACTUALLY GOES.
01:45:15PM AND THEY START TO PUT IT OUT ON THE STREET WITH THEIR
01:45:17PM SUBCONTRACTORS.
01:45:18PM INTENT IS TO BE VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBER
01:45:21PM BEFORE THEY ARE RELEASED TO GO.
01:45:23PM NO SURPRISES COME THE TIME THAT WE GET NUMBERS BACK FROM THE
01:45:27PM SUBCONTRACTORS THAT WE ARE READY TO START DIGGING IMMEDIATELY.
01:45:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
01:45:31PM THAT IS VERY GOOD.
01:45:32PM I LOOKED AT THE FLOOR PLAN.
01:45:33PM AND I HAVE TO SAY THE LAST TIME I WAS UP TO VISIT MY MOTHER,
01:45:37PM I WAS ABLE TO GET INTO FIRE STATION NUMBER 1 FOR GAINESVILLE
01:45:43PM FIRE RESCUE -- OR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
01:45:44PM THEIR RESCUE IS DIFFERENT.
01:45:45PM AND THEY -- I GOT A GREAT TOUR.
01:45:49PM THEY TOLD ME OF STUFF THAT WAS AWESOME AND STUFF THAT DID
01:45:51PM NOT WORK.
01:45:53PM SO I STILL NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO CHIEF TRIPP ABOUT IT
01:45:56PM BECAUSE I WILL.
01:45:57PM THERE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS I SEE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WERE
01:46:01PM BEST PRACTICE FOR THAT STATION.
01:46:03PM AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE.
01:46:05PM I CAN'T REALLY SEE SUPER CLEAR ON THIS.
01:46:08PM SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
01:46:10PM SORRY THAT DURING LUNCH I WASN'T ABLE TO COME DOWN.
01:46:13PM I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
01:46:14PM ON THE NOTE OF, YOU KNOW, BUILDING MORE FIRE STATIONS.
01:46:18PM I WAS JUST AT STATION 4 ON MONDAY ALL DAY TO SEE WHAT 4 AND
01:46:25PM 10 WERE LIKE TOGETHER.
01:46:26PM AND WHILE IT WORKS BECAUSE STATION 4 JUST HAPPENS TO HAVE
01:46:29PM THE ROOM FOR THAT, YEAH, STATION 10 REALLY -- WE -- AND WE
01:46:34PM CAN'T START THAT UNTIL FLEET AND SUPPLY IS DONE.
01:46:37PM MY OTHER QUESTION TO YOU OR I GUESS TO CHIEF TRIPP OR EVEN
01:46:41PM TO MR. MUTTERBACK, IS HE AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH FLEET AND
01:46:45PM SUPPLY?
01:46:47PM >> I WILL SAY YES.
01:46:49PM [LAUGHTER]
01:46:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPOKEN LIKE A CONTRACTOR.
01:46:54PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I KNOW THIS IS OFF THE RECORD, BUT I WILL
01:46:57PM BRIBE HIM TO STAY AROUND.
01:46:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS SOUNDS GREAT AND ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD
01:47:01PM AND HELP CHIEF TRIPP THAT HAS SO MUCH ON HER PLATE TO BE
01:47:05PM ABLE TO -- BECAUSE FLEET AND SUPPLY WILL BE THE SAME THING.
01:47:08PM WE WILL HAVE THE NEEDS.
01:47:09PM MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN ABOUT THIS -- AND AGAIN WE CAN TALK
01:47:11PM OFF-LINE.
01:47:13PM WHILE I UNDERSTAND THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM FOR 11 FIRE FIGHTERS
01:47:17PM AND THE FOLKS WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF THEM, LIKE, IS THERE ROOM
01:47:23PM FOR GROWTH?
01:47:24PM BECAUSE FOUR BAYS MEANS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
01:47:30PM I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
01:47:32PM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHILE WE ARE VALUE ENGINEERING
01:47:36PM FOR SPACE, WE ARE ALSO THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT THAT SPACE
01:47:39PM MIGHT MEET -- BE RECONFIGURED IF WE ENDED UP NEEDING MORE
01:47:46PM BODIES IN THAT SPACE.
01:47:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEFORE HE ANSWERS THAT QUESTION, I WANT TO
01:47:50PM EXPAND ON THAT BECAUSE WAS GOING TO BE MY POINT AS WELL.
01:47:53PM WITH ALL OF THE EXPANSIONS WE SEE AT USF AND THE
01:47:57PM REDEVELOPMENT AND REIMAGINING OF FOWLER AND YOU ALL ANTICIPATE
01:48:04PM A LOT OF INCREASED DENSITY.
01:48:06PM WITH WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK JUST SAID, HOW DOES THAT PLAY
01:48:11PM IN THIS DESIGN?
01:48:12PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WILL SPEAK ON PART.
01:48:14PM CHIEF TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF.
01:48:17PM MY PLAN OF BUILDING THE STATION.
01:48:19PM RIGHT NOW STATION 24, THE RESOURCE THAT ARE THERE ARE AN
01:48:23PM ENGINE AND A RESCUE, TO OKAY.
01:48:25PM WITH NORTH TAMPA GROWING, WITH THE STADIUM COMING, WITH ALL
01:48:28PM OF THAT BEING DEVELOPED, THAT IS WHY I NEEDED A FOUR BAY TO
01:48:32PM PREDICT FOR GROWTH.
01:48:33PM JUST LIKE NOW, YOU WENT TO STATION 4 AND WITH STATION 4, WE
01:48:39PM ARE PUTTING ALL OF THE RESOURCES.
01:48:41PM JUST LIKE STATION 1.
01:48:42PM I DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR RESCUE 6.
01:48:44PM I HAD TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE.
01:48:46PM THAT IS -- THAT STATION THERE IS BASICALLY LOOKING FOR THE
01:48:50PM FUTURE.
01:48:50PM BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ACT MORE.
01:48:52PM THE CITY IS GROWING.
01:48:53PM THE POPULATION HAS INCREASED.
01:48:56PM YOU KNOW, INCIDENTS ARE HAPPENING.
01:48:57PM THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ROOM TO
01:49:00PM PUT ANOTHER ENGINE OR ANOTHER RESCUE CAR, WHATEVER RESOURCE
01:49:05PM THAT WE NEED FOR WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN THAT AREA.
01:49:08PM A LADDER TRUCK FOR A CHIEF.
01:49:11PM OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
01:49:12PM THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING FOUR BAYS THERE.
01:49:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SAYING NOT ALL OF THESE DORM SPACE WILL BE
01:49:20PM FULL IMMEDIATELY.
01:49:21PM SO THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING, BECAUSE I DID NOTICE THAT.
01:49:23PM AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT WHILE I WAS AT STATION 4.
01:49:28PM 10'S ENGINE IS OUTSIDE BECAUSE THERE IS NO ROOM FOR IT
01:49:32PM BECAUSE THEY -- EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE ENOUGH BAYS, THOSE
01:49:35PM HOLD OTHER IMPORTANT APPARATUS.
01:49:37PM AND THAT'S WHERE THEY LIVE.
01:49:39PM BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO IT THE PORT AND TO OTHER AREAS.
01:49:44PM SO IT IS ALWAYS INTERESTING TO BE AT STATION 4 FOR THAT
01:49:47PM REASON.
01:49:48PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT IS ANOTHER THING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT
01:49:51PM WAS A FIRE DEPARTMENT.
01:49:51PM NOW WE HAVE BEEN FIRE RESCUE.
01:49:53PM WE ADDED MORE RESOURCES TO THESE STATIONS THAT ARE 65 YEARS
01:49:57PM OLD.
01:49:58PM SO WE NEED TO GROW THE STATIONS AS WELL.
01:50:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY HOW MUCH I ENJOY THE
01:50:02PM RIDE-ALONGS.
01:50:07PM I LEARN A LOT.
01:50:08PM GOT TO SEE NEW STUFF -- EVERY TIME I GO, I SEE SOMETHING NEW,
01:50:11PM AND I LOVE THE RIDE-ALONGS FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
01:50:14PM I LEARN A LOT.
01:50:15PM WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY HOW MUCH I -- I LEARN
01:50:19PM AND RESPECT ALL THE FOLKS WHO DO THAT WORK.
01:50:22PM SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
01:50:24PM THANK YOU.
01:50:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO THE PLAN IS -- THIS IS BUILT FOR
01:50:28PM EXPANSION AND COLLOCATION FOR RESCUE AND FIRE?
01:50:34PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES, SIR.
01:50:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SIZE OF IT?
01:50:39PM GREAT.
01:50:39PM ONE QUICK QUESTION.
01:50:40PM THIS COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH A PHONE CALL, BUT I AM
01:50:43PM CURIOUS.
01:50:43PM BECAUSE FIRE STATIONS ARE BEING BUILT FREAKING EVERYWHERE.
01:50:48PM JUST IN FLORIDA WITH THE GROWTH.
01:50:50PM WHY ARE THEY ALL SPECIFIC?
01:50:51PM WHY DON'T WE HAVE A TURNKEY DESIGN.
01:50:54PM WHY NOT BUY A SET OF PLANS AND BUILD A FIRE STATION.
01:50:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LAND.
01:51:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTHING REALLY COMPLEX ABOUT THIS.
01:51:02PM >> SOMETIMES IT IS DEPENDENT ON WHAT THE USE OF THAT
01:51:06PM PARTICULAR FIRE STATION MIGHT BE, WHAT KIND OF APPARATUS IT HAS.
01:51:10PM THE KIND OF SUPPORT STAFF THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE.
01:51:13PM WHETHER A FULL-TIME FIRE FIGHTER OR PART-TIME FIRE FIGHTER.
01:51:16PM WHETHER THEY STAY THERE.
01:51:17PM A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS.
01:51:19PM CHIEF CAN PROBABLY TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
01:51:21PM A LOT TO HAVE KIND OF -- I THINK A FPA, IF THEY COULD, WOULD
01:51:26PM ABSOLUTELY HAVE -- HERE IS A PERFECT FIRE STATION AND BUILD
01:51:30PM THIS.
01:51:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MODEL A, B, C AND D.
01:51:36PM DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE?
01:51:38PM ALL CUSTOM?
01:51:40PM >> NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
01:51:41PM I AM SURE THERE ARE ARCHITECTS THAT ARE ABLE TO PULL OUT OF
01:51:44PM THEIR PORTFOLIO, AND SAY WE USED THIS AND BASICALLY DONE IT IN
01:51:47PM FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
01:51:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE WE GET E-MAILS FROM THE PRESIDENT
01:51:52PM OF THE 754 AND THE FIRE STATIONS.
01:51:57PM AND SURELY, THERE HAVE TOO BE TURNKEY MODELS OF THESE THINGS.
01:52:01PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
01:52:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY NAME IS NOT SURELY.
01:52:06PM IT IS AN OLD JOKE.
01:52:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OUR AUDIENCE IS THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF 18-24.
01:52:13PM [LAUGHTER]
01:52:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO CHIEF TRIPP AND EVERYONE WHO IS
01:52:20PM WORKING ON THIS.
01:52:20PM AND SPECIAL THANKS TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:52:24PM THIS HAS BEEN MAYBE A SIX OR MORE, SEVEN YEAR -- ALMOST THE
01:52:31PM WHOLE TIME I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL'S PROJECT THAT COUNCIL
01:52:34PM MEMBER VIERA IS LEADING.
01:52:35PM ONE THING THAT I WANT TO SAY IS FOR THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND
01:52:38PM WOMEN OF THE FIRE RESCUE AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO WANT
01:52:42PM US TO PUT MORE RESOURCES AND POUR MORE RESOURCES, THE IDEA
01:52:46PM THAT WE ALL GOT BEHIND THIS ONE.
01:52:48PM NOT IN MY DISTRICT, BUT I SUPPORTED IT.
01:52:50PM MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORTED IT.
01:52:52PM BECAUSE WE HAVE A WHOLE QUEUE OF THINGS WE HAVE TO GET
01:52:55PM THROUGH.
01:52:55PM THIS ONE HAS TAKEN YEARS AND YEARS.
01:52:57PM AND I AM HOPING THAT ONCE THIS IS DONE, THAT WE CAN MOVE THE
01:53:03PM BACKLOG OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE IN COUNCIL AND FIRE FIGHTERS
01:53:07PM AND NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD LIKE.
01:53:08PM I HOPE THIS WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF MANY POSITIVE THINGS TO
01:53:11PM COME.
01:53:11PM THANK YOU.
01:53:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING ELSE?
01:53:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
01:53:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO AHEAD, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:53:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD A MESSAGE THAT I SENT TO MY PUBLIC
01:53:20PM E-MAIL, BY THE WAY.
01:53:21PM IF THEY CAN MAKE THIS PRESENTATION AVAILABLE ON BASE.
01:53:25PM SOMEBODY HAD ASKED ME THAT.
01:53:27PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES.
01:53:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS FUN IF I WAS LAUGHING WHEN LYNN HURTAK
01:53:34PM WAS TALKING OF DOING THE RIDE ALONGS.
01:53:36PM AND CHIEF TRIPP, SPENT THE NIGHT AT STATION 123, SHOCKED
01:53:42PM THAT YOU LET ME DO THAT BECAUSE I AM SO DAMN CLUMSY.
01:53:46PM I AM A RISK LIABILITY.
01:53:48PM THAT'S ALL.
01:53:48PM I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT.
01:53:50PM REMINDED ME I GUESS.
01:53:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
01:53:54PM THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT REPORT.
01:53:55PM APPRECIATE IT.
01:53:56PM >> THANK YOU.
01:53:56PM APPRECIATE IT.
01:53:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
01:53:58PM HERE WE GO.
01:53:59PM WE ARE.
01:54:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A REALLY LOVELY PICTURE.
01:54:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OF ME?
01:54:12PM [LAUGHTER]
01:54:18PM OKAY.
01:54:19PM WE ARE -- WOULD LIKE TO A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC
01:54:25PM HEARINGS.
01:54:25PM A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:54:28PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:54:30PM AYES HAVE IT.
01:54:31PM ITEM NUMBER 63.
01:54:33PM IF YOU WERE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY AND
01:54:36PM SPEAK ON ITEM 63, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE
01:54:41PM SWORN IN BY THE CLERK.
01:54:42PM [SWEARING IN]
01:54:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
01:54:55PM WHO IS GOING TO KICK US OFF?
01:55:07PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
01:55:09PM FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:55:10PM ITEM NUMBER 63 IS REGARDING FILE NUMBER FDN 25-36.
01:55:15PM MR. SHELBY SHOULD BE HANDLING -- HANDING OUT THE CODE
01:55:22PM SECTION 27-61 AND RECOMMENDED ORDER REGARDING THIS MATTER,
01:55:26PM BUT I TOOK THE LIBERTY TO EXPLAIN THE SECTION, WHERE WE ARE,
01:55:33PM AND WHAT CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE IS TODAY.
01:55:35PM I DID THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A BREAKDOWN OF 27-16 ON THE ELMO
01:55:40PM -- ON A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON THE WOLF.
01:55:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHOULD SELF-ACTIVATE WHEN YOU THROW IT ON
01:55:52PM THERE, UNLESS THEY FLIP A SWITCH.
01:55:54PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MAY I PROCEED?
01:56:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
01:56:01PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: AS INDICATED, THIS MATTER IS BEFORE
01:56:06PM YOU TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED ORDER BY THE HEARING OFFICER
01:56:10PM WHO CONDUCTED THE DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING REGARDING THIS
01:56:14PM MATTER.
01:56:15PM THE DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING ALREADY TOOK PLACE.
01:56:24PM FOR CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION ON THE RECOMMENDED ORDER,
01:56:28PM AS OUTLINED IN CODE SECTION 27-16, SUBSECTIONS J-1-E, iii.
01:56:38PM CITY COUNCIL MAY ADOPT IT AS FINAL, REJECT THE RECOMMENDED
01:56:43PM ORDER IN ITS ENTIRETY, OR MODIFY THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
01:56:47PM THE FINAL ORDER, ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 27-61,
01:56:55PM SUBSECTIONS J-1-3i.
01:57:00PM CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT REJECT OR REMODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT
01:57:05PM REACHED BY THE HEARING OFFICER.
01:57:06PM THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS OUTLINED IN THE CODE.
01:57:08PM YOU CAN'T CHANGE HIS FINDINGS OF FACT.
01:57:12PM IT ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU THINK THAT
01:57:17PM FURTHER FACT-FINDING IS NEEDED.
01:57:19PM YOU CAN ALWAYS MODIFY -- ALWAYS REMAND THIS MATTER BACK TO
01:57:23PM THE HEARING OFFICER FOR FURTHER FACT FINDING.
01:57:25PM ALSO, CODE SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTIONS J-1-E iii SAYS IF CITY
01:57:42PM COUNCIL REJECTS OR REMODIFIES CONCLUSION OF LAW, YOU MUST
01:57:45PM STATE WITH PARTICULARITY TO MODIFY THE CONCLUSIONS AND MUST
01:57:55PM STATE THAT YOUR FINDING -- THAT IT IS SUBSTITUTION OF A
01:58:00PM CONCLUSION OF LAW IS OR AS MORE REASONABLE AS REJECTED AND
01:58:08PM MODIFIED.
01:58:09PM THIS IS THE LANGUAGE FROM THE CODE.
01:58:11PM I MODIFIED IT.
01:58:15PM IT IS WHAT IS IN THE CODE.
01:58:17PM THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE TASKED FOR THIS AFTERNOON.
01:58:20PM ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, MODIFYING THE RECOMMENDED
01:58:23PM ORDER OR REJECTING THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
01:58:26PM I WILL SAY THAT THERE WERE SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE FILED
01:58:30PM BY THE PETITIONER REGARDING THIS MATTER.
01:58:33PM CODE SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTIONS J-1-D iii ADDRESSES THE
01:58:48PM EXCEPTIONS.
01:58:48PM EXCEPTIONS BE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND
01:58:54PM CONTAINED IN THE RECOMMENDED ORDERS.
01:58:56PM EXCEPTIONS MUST IDENTIFY THE DISPUTED PORTION OF THE
01:58:59PM RECOMMENDED ORDER.
01:59:00PM AND IF THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS BASED ON TESTIMONY PRESENTED AT THE
01:59:03PM HEARING, THEN THE PERSON FILING THE EXCEPTION MUST PROVIDE A
01:59:08PM TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCEEDING OR A VIDEO RECORDING OF IT.
01:59:11PM THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST MADE FOR ORAL ARGUMENT REGARDING
01:59:15PM THIS MATTER.
01:59:16PM AND, AGAIN, THE ORAL ARGUMENT PORTION OF THE CODE, IS ALSO
01:59:22PM -- IT IS IN YOUR PACKET THAT I GAVE YOU ABOUT ORAL ARGUMENT
01:59:27PM THAT ALSO GIVES -- IF YOU CHOOSE TO GIVE ORAL ARGUMENT, IT
01:59:32PM IS ON PAGE TWO AND PAGE THREE OF THE HANDOUT.
01:59:34PM BUT HERE IS THE INFORMATION REGARDING ORAL ARGUMENTS.
01:59:39PM CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBJECTION J-1-E ii.
01:59:47PM CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN THE MEETING FOR ORAL ARGUMENT IF
01:59:51PM CITY COUNCIL FINDS THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT ADDRESS A
01:59:55PM MATTER INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD.
01:59:57PM OR THE RECORD -- THE RECOMMENDED ORDER CONTAINS AN
02:00:03PM AMBIGUITY.
02:00:04PM IF CITY COUNCIL ALLOWS ORAL ARGUMENT, YOU MAY LIMIT SUCH
02:00:08PM ORAL ARGUMENT TO ADDRESSING ONLY THOSE MATTERS FOR WHICH IT
02:00:12PM OPENS FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
02:00:14PM SO YOU CAN -- IF YOU DECIDE TO OPEN FOR ORAL ARGUMENT, YOU
02:00:18PM CAN LIMIT WHAT THE ORAL ARGUMENT IS ABOUT.
02:00:19PM MR. SHELBY SHALL REVIEW -- THIS IS ONE TIME THAT CITY COUNCIL
02:00:26PM ATTORNEY IS OUTLINED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE.
02:00:28PM MR. SHELBY SHALL REVIEW THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT AND
02:00:32PM MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON WHETHER OR NOT THE
02:00:35PM REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT MEETS THE CRITERIA.
02:00:39PM BUT I JUST WANT TO RE-EMPHASIZE THE PUPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING
02:00:43PM IS JUST TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
02:00:46PM THIS IS NOT A REVIEW HEARING PART II.
02:00:50PM AND NOT A DE NOVO HEARING.
02:00:53PM THIS JUST TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
02:00:56PM AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. SHELBY.
02:00:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
02:00:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND
02:01:02PM MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
02:01:05PM AS MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE SAID, I HAVE THE HONOR OF
02:01:11PM HAVING THIS PROVISION IN THE CODE.
02:01:13PM AND I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE EXCEPTIONS OF
02:01:15PM THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, AND THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
02:01:19PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO SO I CAN ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE IT IN
02:01:23PM FRONT OF YOU IS TO DISTRIBUTE IT AGAIN THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE
02:01:27PM RECOMMENDED ORDER THAT HAVE BEEN FILED BY COUNSEL FOR THE
02:01:32PM APPLICANT OR THE PETITIONER.
02:01:33PM AND ALSO, THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
02:01:37PM SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A FULL SET OF ITEMS TO
02:01:41PM BE ABLE TO REFER TO.
02:01:43PM MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE RECOMMENDED ORDER ITSELF, WHICH IS
02:01:46PM ATTACHED -- WHICH WAS ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION SETTING
02:01:50PM THIS HEARING FROM THE OUTSET.
02:01:51PM SO YOUR COMMENTS RELATING TO THIS DECISION HAVE TO REFER
02:01:56PM SPECIFICALLY TO THAT RECOMMENDED ORDER.
02:02:00PM AGAIN,THIS IS NOT A DE NOVO HEARING AND NOT A REVIEW HEARING
02:02:03PM AND IS BASED SOLELY ON THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
02:02:06PM AND THEN WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE EXCEPTIONS TO
02:02:08PM THAT.
02:02:08PM AND YOU HAVE THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
02:02:12PM COUNCIL, AFTER REVIEWING THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT,
02:02:24PM I CAN NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS REQUEST FOR ORAL
02:02:28PM ARGUMENT MEETS THE CRITERIA.
02:02:31PM BUT THE DISCUSSION DOESN'T END WITH THAT DETERMINATION.
02:02:33PM IT IS STILL COUNCIL -- AND I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT
02:02:37PM COUNCIL'S ROLE IS IN THIS CASE.
02:02:38PM YOU MAY ONLY -- AND THIS CODE IS VERY STRICT.
02:02:43PM YOUR SUBJECT AND YOUR TASK HERE UNLIKE A DE NOVO REVIEW
02:02:49PM HEARING IS VERY LIMITED, AND COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE
02:02:52PM WITH THIS.
02:02:52PM LET ME JUST STATE, AGAIN, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, CITY
02:02:56PM COUNCIL MAY ONLY ALLOW PUBLIC DISCUSSION UPON A REQUEST FOR
02:02:59PM ORAL ARGUMENT FILED BY A PARENT OR IMPORTANT ITS OWN MOTION.
02:03:07PM CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN THE MEETING FOR ORAL ARGUMENT --
02:03:12PM LET ME REPEAT THAT, CITY COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN THE MEETING
02:03:15PM FOR ORAL ARGUMENT IF THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS REFERRING NOW TO
02:03:20PM THE RECOMMENDED ORDER THAT THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT
02:03:24PM ADDRESS A MATTER INTRODUCED INTO THE RECORD OR THE
02:03:27PM RECOMMENDED ORDER CONTAINS AN AMBIGUITY.
02:03:30PM AND, AGAIN, THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE A FINDING OF CITY COUNCIL
02:03:35PM BEFORE YOU WOULD ALLOW ORAL ARGUMENT UPON MOTION.
02:03:42PM IF CITY COUNCIL ALLOWS ORAL ARGUMENT, CITY COUNCIL MAY LIMIT
02:03:45PM SUCH ORAL ARGUMENT ADDRESSING ONLY THOSE MATTERS OF WHICH
02:03:49PM THEY OPENED ORAL ARGUMENT.
02:03:50PM NOW HAVING DONE THIS, I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT IN THE EVENT
02:03:55PM THE CITY COUNCIL -- AND AGAIN, I AM READING DIRECTLY FROM THE
02:03:58PM CODE, SUBSECTION 3.
02:04:01PM IN THE EVENT CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE REQUEST FOR ORAL
02:04:05PM ARGUMENT, THE CONTENT OF THE TESTIMONY SHALL BE THE SAME AS
02:04:08PM THE CONTENT OF TESTIMONY SUBMITTED VERBALLY OR IN WRITING TO
02:04:12PM THE HEARING OFFICER.
02:04:13PM COUNCIL PERMITS ORAL ARGUMENT.
02:04:16PM ALLOW STAFF AND EACH PARTY UP TO TEN MINUTES FOR ORAL
02:04:21PM PRESENTATION OR ARGUMENT.
02:04:21PM NONPARTY PARTICIPANTS MAY BE PERMITTED ORAL ARGUMENT --
02:04:27PM PRESENTATION OR ORAL ARGUMENT UP TO THREE MINUTES.
02:04:30PM NO PERSON MUST SUBMIT NEW TESTIMONY TO CITY COUNCIL DURING
02:04:33PM ORAL ARGUMENT.
02:04:33PM AND ALL PERSONS MUST CONFINE THEIR PRESENTATIONS TO EVIDENCE
02:04:38PM MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
02:04:40PM AND, AGAIN, YOU HEARD FROM THE -- THE ASSISTANT CITY
02:04:46PM ATTORNEY AND, AGAIN, DEPENDS ON WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS,
02:04:50PM WE WILL GO THROUGH WHAT IT TAKES TO GET TO A FINAL ORDER
02:04:53PM IN THIS CASE.
02:04:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LOOKS TO ME WE SHOULD TAKE ABOUT 15
02:04:57PM MINUTES TO READ THE FINDINGS OF FACT.
02:04:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES?
02:05:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GOING TO SUGGEST 15.
02:05:04PM COUNCIL WILL ADDRESS THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND THESE
02:05:09PM CONCLUSIONS OF LAW, AND THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RECOMMENDATION
02:05:10PM FILED BY THE PETITIONERS SO THAT WE CAN ASSESS THIS CASE.
02:05:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
02:05:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE.
02:05:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: STAY HERE AND STAY IN SESSION.
02:05:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAY IN SESSION.
02:05:26PM SO PEOPLE KNOW WE WILL SIT UP FOR 15 MINUTES AND READ.
02:05:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
02:05:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF YOU JUST SIGNAL THAT YOU ARE DONE AND
02:05:38PM COMFORTABLE TO PROCEED.
02:05:39PM AND IF I GET EVERYBODY'S HAND -- JUST PUT ON YOUR LIGHTS AND
02:05:42PM I WILL KNOW.
02:05:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY.
02:16:27PM WE HAVE READ THE HEARING OFFICER'S CONCLUSION OF LAW AND
02:16:31PM CONCLUSION OF FACTS, AND WE READ THE PETITIONER'S OBJECTIONS
02:16:35PM TO THE FINDING OF FACTS, EXCEPTIONS OF THE RECOMMENDED ORDER. 02:16:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WERE FINISHED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:16:45PM YES.
02:16:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMEMBER THAT RULE OF INTERRUPTING ME.
02:16:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE EVERY CERTAINTY DO THIS BEFORE YOU
02:16:58PM INTO A DISCUSSION OR COUNCIL DETERMINATION.
02:17:01PM CRITERIA FROM THE CITY COUNCIL IS YOU CAN ONLY OPEN FOR
02:17:04PM ORAL ARGUMENT IF THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS THAT THE HEARING
02:17:07PM OFFICER DID NOT INTRODUCE A MATTER INTO THE RECORD AND IF IT
02:17:12PM CONTAINS AN AMBIGUITY.
02:17:14PM IF YOU ALLOW ORAL ARGUMENT, YOU MAY ONLY LIMIT IT TO ONLY TO THE
02:17:17PM MATTERS OF WHICH YOU OPENED IT.
02:17:18PM LET ME ALSO READ CRITERIA FOR FINAL ORDER BECAUSE I THINK IT IS
02:17:24PM RELEVANT IN YOUR CASE.
02:17:25PM I WILL READ EXCERPTS UNDER THE SECTION OF "FINAL ORDER."
02:17:30PM AND MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE DID REFERENCE THIS IN HER
02:17:34PM PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL AS TO THE BACKGROUND.
02:17:36PM CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT REJECT OR MODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT
02:17:41PM REACHED BY THE HEARING OFFICER.
02:17:42PM IF CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT A FINDING OF FACT IS NOT
02:17:45PM BASED UPON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE
02:17:49PM RECORD OR IF THERE IS A FINDING OF FACT, YOU NOT COMPLY WITH
02:17:53PM ESSENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OF LAW, MEANING WAS THE PROPER LAW
02:17:55PM APPLIED CORRECTLY, THEN CITY COUNCIL MAY IN THAT CASE REMAND
02:18:00PM THE MATTER BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER, BUT ONLY IF IT
02:18:04PM DETERMINES THAT ADDITIONAL FACT FINDING IS REQUIRED.
02:18:10PM IF YOU REJECTS THE CONCLUSION OF LAW, THEN YOUR TASK AND
02:18:17PM PARAPHRASING AGAIN READING WITH PARTICULARITY ITS READINGS
02:18:21PM AND MUST MAKE A FINDING THAT YOUR SUBSTITUTION OF A
02:18:24PM CONCLUSION OF LAW IS AS OR MORE REASONABLE THAN THAT IS
02:18:30PM REJECTED OR MODIFIED.
02:18:31PM THAT WILL BE THE CASE AND THE CONTEXT UPON WHICH YOU MAKE
02:18:34PM YOUR DECISION.
02:18:35PM I TURN IT BACK TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:18:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BASED ON WHAT CITY AND COUNCIL'S ATTORNEYS
02:18:43PM HAVE STATED AND OUR ROLE HERE, SEEMS AS THOUGH THE THRESHOLD
02:18:45PM IS QUITE HIGH AS FAR AS REVIEWING THIS CASE AND THE STATEMENTS.
02:18:52PM DID ANYBODY IN THEIR REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENTS FIND THAT THE
02:18:56PM HEARING OFFICER -- TITLE IS HEARING OFFICER.
02:19:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD YOU ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN?
02:19:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID ANYBODY -- I AM JUST DETERMINING IF
02:19:12PM HEARING OFFICER WAS HIS TITLE.
02:19:13PM HEARING OFFICER -- I WILL USE THAT.
02:19:15PM DID ANYBODY HERE WHEN THEY WERE READING THROUGH THE
02:19:18PM DOCUMENTS, DID ANYBODY FIND THAT THE HEARING OFFICER'S
02:19:29PM STATEMENTS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW WERE FLAWED OR DID
02:19:32PM ANYBODY FIND THAT EXCEPTION FILED BY THE PETITIONER WERE
02:19:42PM VALID TO JUSTIFY OPENING THIS CASE WITH ORAL ARGUMENTS.
02:19:49PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:19:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO DETAIL ON ANY DOCUMENTATION OR DISCUSSION
02:19:54PM ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE CHANGE OF THE ZONING WHEN THE NEW --
02:20:01PM WHEN THE NEW ZONING -- 1984, WHEN THE NEW CODE WENT THROUGH.
02:20:05PM THEY WERE UNDER R-4, WHICH INCLUDED BOTH USES AND THEN -- WE
02:20:12PM DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OR WHY THEY WEREN'T GRANDFATHERED
02:20:15PM IN OR WHETHER THEY REQUESTED TO MAINTAIN OR IF THEY --
02:20:20PM IF THEY REQUESTED A DIFFERENT ONE, BUT SOMEHOW THEY WERE
02:20:23PM CHANGED TO THIS OTHER ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
02:20:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU GO BACK TO THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND
02:20:28PM LOOK AT WHAT THE HEARING OFFICER FOUND BASED ON THE
02:20:31PM TESTIMONY THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE USE OR NOT CONTINUOUS USE
02:20:36PM OF THAT PROPERTY.
02:20:36PM AS I READ IT, HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE -- HIS INTERPRETATION
02:20:43PM OF HOW THEY WERE USING IT.
02:20:44PM BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THEY REQUESTED
02:20:48PM TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN THE EXISTING USE IN 1984.
02:20:51PM THAT INFORMATION IS NOT IN THE RECORD.
02:20:53PM SO THAT WOULD -- YOU ASKED IF ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE US
02:20:58PM TO OPEN IT, THAT MAY BE A REASON TO OPEN IT.
02:21:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T -- IN MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK
02:21:04PM THAT REDUCED THAT THRESHOLD, BUT --
02:21:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
02:21:11PM COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
02:21:12PM YOU ARE SAYING THAT THERE IS A -- SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT
02:21:14PM SEE AS A RELEVANT FACT THAT YOU DO NOT SEE IN THE ORDER THAT
02:21:18PM YOU THINK MIGHT BE RELEVANT TO A DECISION?
02:21:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE R-4 DESIGNATION INCLUDED BOTH USES,
02:21:28PM AND THE NEW DESIGNATION DID NOT.
02:21:32PM IN 1984, IS IT IS SILENT AS TO WHETHER THEY -- THEY TRIED TO
02:21:39PM CHANGE THE -- TO BE GRANDFATHERED INTO THE OLD ZONING AT
02:21:47PM THAT TIME AND ONLY TALKS OF THE DE NOVO HEARING IN 2024.
02:21:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY I --
02:21:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK -- IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT
02:21:56PM NUMBER 7 ON THE HEARING OFFICER'S FINDINGS OF FACT.
02:22:05PM AND CONTINUING WITH THE CURRENT CODE BEYOND THAT --
02:22:08PM CONTINUE WITH WHAT THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS, I THINK IT
02:22:12PM ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN.
02:22:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT JUST -- AS I -- AND I AM NOT TRYING TO
02:22:16PM ARGUE THE POINT, I AM BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE YOU ASKED, IT
02:22:20PM DOESN'T GIVE ANY DETAILS ABOUT -- ABOUT WHETHER THEY --
02:22:24PM WHETHER THEY ASKED TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN OR DENIED OR WHAT
02:22:27PM HAPPENED.
02:22:27PM IT MERELY STATES THAT IT CHANGED.
02:22:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM HEARING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I
02:22:33PM DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS RELEVANT --
02:22:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THING IS, IF HE CAN.
02:22:37PM I WANTED TO SAY THAT COUNCIL MAY ONLY OPEN PUBLIC DISCUSSION
02:22:40PM OF REQUEST OF ORAL ARGUMENT FILED OR BY A PARTY -- BY PARTY
02:22:44PM OR UPON ITS OWN MOTION.
02:22:46PM SO IF YOU -- IF YOU THINK -- IF THERE IS SOMETHING -- IF, IN
02:22:51PM IS EITHER AN AMBIGUITY OR SOMETHING THAT IS MISSING FROM
02:22:55PM FACT, THAT YOU MAY NEED TO ASCERTAIN TO MAKE A DECISION -- I
02:23:00PM AM NOT TAKING A POSITION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
02:23:02PM IF YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED ORAL ARGUMENT, THEN A MOTION
02:23:05PM WOULD BE IN ORDER.
02:23:08PM OTHERWISE, NOT.
02:23:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT ALSO -- CAN I MAKE ONE OTHER POINT?
02:23:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, SIR.
02:23:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT ALSO SHOWS CLEARLY WHAT -- BY THE WAY,
02:23:18PM FOR DISCLOSURE, I BEEN TO THIS PLACE -- NOT IN A FEW YEARS,
02:23:21PM BUT I HAVE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES.
02:23:23PM IT -- IT SAYS CLEARLY WHAT THE PRIMARY USE WAS.
02:23:28PM BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A SITE PLAN OR A MAP OR PHOTOS TO SHOW
02:23:32PM WHETHER PART OF IT HAS BEEN USED AS AN OFFICE.
02:23:36PM MERELY SAYS THAT THE PRIMARY USE WAS --
02:23:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT THE CRUX OF --
02:23:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY, COUNCIL, THAT -- AND YOU MAY NOT
02:23:46PM HAVE RECOGNIZE IT OR MAY OVERLOOKED IT, BUT THAT HAS BEEN
02:23:51PM AVAILABLE IN ACELA.
02:23:53PM IF COUNCIL NEEDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW DOCUMENTS THAT
02:23:56PM YOU THINK YOU DON'T HAVE, WELL, THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE WE CAN
02:23:59PM ADDRESS.
02:23:59PM BUT IF YOU FEEL THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED IN ORAL ARGUMENT IN
02:24:02PM ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, YOU CAN DO THAT.
02:24:04PM I WILL REMIND YOU THAT EVEN AFTER ORAL ARGUMENT, AND, OF
02:24:08PM COURSE, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS, THERE WILL BE ADDRESSED IF YOU
02:24:11PM GRANT THAT ORAL ARGUMENT FOR THE PETITIONER'S ATTORNEY AND,
02:24:15PM OF COURSE, THE CITY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
02:24:18PM THAT AND PERHAPS REBUT THAT.
02:24:19PM BUT EVEN AFTER ALL THAT FINDING, COUNCIL, ULTIMATELY, PLEASE
02:24:23PM REMEMBER THAT YOU CAN NOT MODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT AND
02:24:27PM YOU HAVE TO REMAND THAT IF THAT IS THE CASE FOR ADDITIONAL
02:24:30PM FACT FINDING.
02:24:30PM AND IF IT IS AN ISSUE OF -- IF IT IS AN ISSUE OF LAW, THEN
02:24:35PM YOUR TASK IS TO MAKE A FINDING THAT -- A SUBSTITUTION OF A
02:24:40PM CONCLUSION OF LAW IS MORE -- AS OR MORE REASONABLE THAN
02:24:44PM THAT WAS REJECTED.
02:24:46PM THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO DO IF YOU WERE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER
02:24:48PM THAN AFFIRM THIS ORDER IN ORDER TO BRING BACK AN ORDER THAT
02:24:52PM ACTUALLY REFLECTS WHAT COUNCIL'S DECISION IS.
02:24:56PM EVEN AFTER YOU OPEN ORAL ARGUMENT, YOU HAVE THAT DUTY AND
02:24:59PM BURDEN THAT THE CITY CODE GIVES YOU.
02:25:01PM BUT IF IT IS A QUESTION, COUNCIL, ONLY THING I CAN ADVISE
02:25:07PM YOU IS -- IF YOU FEEL IT WARRANTS A MOTION AND A SECOND AND
02:25:12PM A VOTE, IT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER YOU HAVE ORAL ARGUMENT OR
02:25:14PM NOT.
02:25:15PM OR IF THERE IS NO DESIRE FOR A MOTION OR NO SECOND, THEN THE
02:25:20PM MATTER IS MOOT.
02:25:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION ON THIS?
02:25:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, MY RECOMMENDATION -- MY
02:25:29PM RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD THEN, YOU MAKE
02:25:31PM THE DETERMINATION THAT YOU WILL MAKE A DECISION.
02:25:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UPHOLD THE DECISION OF THE HEARING
02:25:37PM OFFICER.
02:25:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS PART OF THE MOTION, REJECT THE NEED FOR
02:25:40PM ORAL ARGUMENT, IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
02:25:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
02:25:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MEAN, IF YOU THINK THAT YOU JUST WANT TO GO
02:25:52PM AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
02:25:56PM IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO --
02:25:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING IS WE CAN REMAND IT BACK AND
02:26:01PM ASK THESE QUESTIONS, RIGHT?
02:26:03PM OR ASK THEM TO CLARIFY?
02:26:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO FACT -- WITH REGARD TO THE
02:26:07PM FACT AS TO -- YOU WILL HAVE YOU TO PROBABLY DO IT WITH --
02:26:11PM ARTICULATE THE SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING
02:26:15PM TO FORMULATE WITH REGARD TO THE PREVIOUS CODE AND IT IS A
02:26:21PM QUESTION -- IT IS A QUESTION OF USE.
02:26:23PM MY RECOMMENDATION -- I CAN'T -- I WOULD RECOMMEND THATM
02:26:29PM ULTIMATELYM WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO, IF IT IS REMANDED, IT
02:26:33PM HAS TO BE DONE WITH PARTICULARITY.
02:26:38PM THAT IS THE WORD.
02:26:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY SAY THEY LITERALLY CAME TO FIND A FORMER
02:26:48PM DECISION TO SEEK THE DETERMINATION REGARDING THE
02:26:52PM NONCONFORMING USE OF OFFICE FOR THE SITE.
02:26:54PM WHAT THAT IS TO ME THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ONE.
02:26:56PM SO, TO ME, THAT IS A FINDING OF FACT.
02:27:00PM IF THEY DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE THAT GRANDFATHER -- IF THEY HAD
02:27:05PM GONE FOR THE GRAND FATHER.
02:27:14PM THEY WOULDN'T HAVE NEED.
02:27:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRINGS BACK INTO FOCUS OUR STATED TASK
02:27:19PM HERE WAS TO, ONE, ACCEPT WHAT THE HEARING OFFICER HAS FOUND
02:27:23PM IN FACT AND LAW.
02:27:24PM AND TWO, TO FOCUS ON THE EXCEPTIONS THAT THE PETITIONER
02:27:28PM PROVIDED TO THAT.
02:27:30PM AND SO WE -- SO T THOSE FACTS ARE THERE.
02:27:34PM USAGE -- THE USAGE OF THE BUILDING WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE
02:27:38PM HEARING OFFICER.
02:27:39PM YOU JUST HAVE TO COMPARE THE EXCEPTIONS.
02:27:45PM SOME IF YOU WERE -- IF YOU WERE CONCERN FALLS WITHIN THE
02:27:48PM PARAMETER OF AN EXCEPTION, THEN I THINK IT IS WORTHY TO BE
02:27:52PM HEARD.
02:27:52PM IF IT DOESN'T, IT DOES NOT, IS THAT CORRECT?
02:27:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD PHRASE IT THIS WAY.
02:27:57PM IF YOU FEEL THAT THE HEARING OFFICER DID NOT INCLUDE
02:28:00PM SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS NECESSARY AS A FINDING OF FACT,
02:28:03PM YOU -- THAT IS A BASIS FOR OPENING IT UP FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
02:28:10PM AND GIVE THE PARTIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY
02:28:13PM -- AND YOU CAN LIMIT THAT.
02:28:14PM AGAIN, NO ADDITIONAL NEW EVIDENCE CAN BE TAKEN.
02:28:17PM IT HAS TO BE BASED ON EVIDENCE THAT IS IN THE RECORD ON
02:28:21PM EITHER SIDE.
02:28:22PM IF THEY GO BEYOND THAT SCOPE, YOU CAN OBJECT TO WHAT IS GOING
02:28:26PM TO BE SWORN TESTIMONY, BECAUSE THEY CAN GIVE YOU SWORN
02:28:29PM TESTIMONY AS TO WHAT WE IS ALREADY IN THE RECORD AND WAS
02:28:34PM PRESENTED TO THE HEARING OFFICER DURING AND IN ADVANCE OF
02:28:38PM THE HEARING AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT WHEN HE PREPARED THIS
02:28:41PM ORDER.
02:28:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DENY ORAL
02:28:46PM ARGUMENTS.
02:28:46PM SEE IF THAT GOES.
02:28:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOTION.
02:28:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND THAT.
02:28:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO
02:28:53PM AND SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO DENY ORAL
02:28:56PM ARGUMENTS.
02:28:56PM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
02:28:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:28:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:29:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:29:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:29:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:29:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:29:05PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:29:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION OR ARE WE DONE?
02:29:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A DECISION IS THE DECISION.
02:29:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOW THE PETITION TIME.
02:29:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE PROVIDED
02:29:24PM TO YOU AND BASED ON THE RECORD AND THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
02:29:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE GET A MOTION TO AFFIRM DECISION OF
02:29:30PM THE HEARING OFFICER?
02:29:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN STILL DENY IT.
02:29:34PM YOU ARE ASKING FOR ONE TO AFFIRM IT.
02:29:37PM BASED ON THE LAW AND THE REVIEW AND WHAT IS IN THESE
02:29:49PM DOCUMENTS, I RECOMMEND THAT THE PETITION FOR REVIEW BE
02:30:01PM DENIED, AND THE DECISION ZONING ADMINISTRATOR BE AFFIRMED.
02:30:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SECOND THAT.
02:30:10PM TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
02:30:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:30:14PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:30:15PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
02:30:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
02:30:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:30:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:30:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:30:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:30:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:30:27PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
02:30:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW, COUNCIL, IF I CAN.
02:30:33PM I BELIEVE WE MAY NEED TO FOLLOW THIS UP -- WHEN IS THE
02:30:37PM PROCESS FOR THE FINAL ORDER?
02:30:42PM WHAT IS THE PROCESS FROM THAT THIS POINT ON?
02:30:47PM OR SOMETHING THAT WILL BE HANDLED FROM THIS POINT ON?
02:30:50PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
02:30:51PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:30:52PM I AM JUST READING AGAIN FROM THE CODE, 27-61.
02:30:56PM IF CITY COUNCIL DIRECTS STAFF TO PREPARE A REVISED ORDER,
02:31:00PM THE REVISED ORDER SHALL BE TRANSMITTED TO THE PARTIES AND
02:31:04PM NONPARTY PARTICIPANTS.
02:31:05PM SO THERE HAVEN'T BEEN A CHANGE, UNLESS CITY COUNCIL IS
02:31:11PM DIRECTING --
02:31:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED BY CITY
02:31:16PM COUNCIL AFTER THIS.
02:31:17PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NO.
02:31:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE APPLICANT HAS THE FINAL ORDER BY CITY
02:31:20PM COUNCIL SHALL BE DEEMED FINAL AND MAY BE REPEALED TO A COURT
02:31:23PM OF JURISDICTION FOR APPLICABLE WALL.
02:31:27PM >> FOR THE RECORD, JAN GRAHAM.
02:31:29PM I OBJECT ON THE GROUNDS OF DUE PROCESS.
02:31:32PM I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL.
02:31:34PM WE BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS AN ADEQUATE NOTICE FOR YOU GIVEN
02:31:38PM ON THE AGENDA.
02:31:38PM WE TIMELY FILED THIS.
02:31:39PM IT WAS NOT IN YOUR AGENDA MATERIALS.
02:31:43PM YOU WERE FORCED TO READ IT RIGHT NOW IN A VERY KIND OF QUICK
02:31:46PM WAY.
02:31:46PM THIS IS A DETAILED ISSUE THAT NEEDS TIME TO REALLY DIGEST.
02:31:52PM AND SO ON THOSE GROUNDS, WHEN WE DO OBJECT.
02:31:56PM AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:31:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OBJECTION IS NOTED.
02:32:00PM THANK YOU.
02:32:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:32:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
02:32:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:32:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:32:08PM OPPOSED.
02:32:08PM THE AYES HAVE IT.
02:32:10PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS -- NEW BUSINESS.
02:32:12PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
02:32:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY HAS ASKED US TO PUT
02:32:30PM THEIR CEO GREG SLATER ON THE AGENDA FOR 15 MINUTES.
02:32:34PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THE TAMPA BAY
02:32:37PM HILLSBOROUGH EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY'S GREG SLATER TO GIVE A
02:32:42PM 15-MINUTE -- LET'S SAY TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE
02:32:47PM SOUTH SELMON CAPACITY PROJECT ON THE DECEMBER 18 COUNCIL
02:32:51PM REGULAR MEETING OVER CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES AND
02:32:54PM PRESENTATIONS.
02:32:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:32:59PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:33:01PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:33:02PM OPPOSED.
02:33:03PM THE AYES HAVE IT.
02:33:04PM 18th.
02:33:07PM A CHRISTMAS PRESENT.
02:33:08PM IS THAT IS IT?
02:33:09PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:33:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: A COUPLE OF QUICK MOTIONS, IF I MAY.
02:33:13PM MOTION ON MOBILITY TO GET BACK ON STAFF IMPROVEMENTS ON
02:33:17PM COMMERCIAL PARK NEAR LIBERTY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND TO REPORT
02:33:21PM BACK TO NOVEMBER 6 REGULAR SESSION WITH A WRITTEN REPORT.
02:33:24PM LONG STORY SHORT, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT WITH A STUDENT WHO
02:33:27PM WAS HIT OVER AT LIBERTY MIDDLE SCHOOL.
02:33:30PM I VISITED WITH JESSICA VAUGHN AND OTHERS, JUST TO GET A
02:33:35PM WRITTEN REPORT, IF I MAY.
02:33:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:33:38PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:33:40PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:33:41PM OPPOSED.
02:33:42PM AYES HAVE IT.
02:33:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE DISABILITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM IN THE FIRST
02:33:47PM REGULAR SESSION IN APRIL WITH WORLD AUTISM MONTH, AND I WON'T
02:33:51PM WILL NOT BE HERE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS THING GOES
02:33:53PM ON FOREVER.
02:33:54PM SO IT WILL BE OBVIOUSLY APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.
02:33:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:33:59PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:34:00PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:34:02PM OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:34:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOTION FOR PARKS AND RECREATION TO REPORT ON
02:34:07PM A ROLL-OUT PLAN FOR INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT OF PARKS
02:34:11PM OUTSIDE OF THE CRA, SOUTH TAMPA, AS WELL AS THE NORTH TAMPA
02:34:14PM AREA.
02:34:15PM I UNDERSTAND WE ARE LIMITED ON FUNDS OUTSIDE OF THE CRA SO I
02:34:19PM INTEND TO MAKE THE SAME MOTION OF CRA IF IT IS STANDARD
02:34:25PM PRACTICE FOR INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AS PART OF THE
02:34:29PM IMPROVEMENT IN NEW PARKS.
02:34:30PM I WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE AN IN-PERSON REPORT ON
02:34:33PM NOVEMBER 20.
02:34:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:34:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND
02:34:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:34:39PM I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS.
02:34:41PM EVERY CHILD THAT SHOWS UP IN A PLAYGROUND SHOULD
02:34:44PM PARTICIPATE.
02:34:44PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:34:46PM OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT.
02:34:47PM >>COUNCILMAN VIERA: LASTLY, A LONG TIME COMING GOING BACK TO
02:34:50PM JOE CATANO.
02:34:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JET BLACK DYED HAIR.
02:34:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, HE IS A FUNNY GUY.
02:34:59PM I MOTION FOR TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REPORT ON THE
02:35:01PM POSSIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A NEW TAMPA SUBSTATION IN AN
02:35:05PM EXISTING STRIP MALL OR BUILDING WHERE THERE MAY BE CURRENT
02:35:07PM AVAILABILITY AND THIS WILL BE AN IN-PERSON REPORT ON
02:35:12PM NOVEMBER 6.
02:35:13PM LONG STORY SHORT, YOU KNOW, WE -- IN NEW TAMPA NEAR A
02:35:18PM SUBSTATION IS IN DISTRICT TWO, WHICH IS OVER OFF OF STATION
02:35:23PM 13.
02:35:23PM AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING -- I WAS TALKING TO CHIEF BERCAW AND
02:35:30PM BROUGHT IT UP AND HE SEEMED TO BE RECEPTIVE.
02:35:33PM MAYBE NOT A FULL SUBSTATION, I SEE A LOT OF TIME THERE ARE
02:35:37PM THESE STRIP MALL WHERE IS YOU RENT SOMETHING.
02:35:39PM SOMETIMES THE OWNERS GIVE IT TO YOU.
02:35:41PM SO THAT THERE CAN BE A POLICE -- A FORMER SUBSTATION ESQUE
02:35:46PM PRESENCE IN NEW TAMPA.
02:35:48PM SO THAT WILL BE MY MOTION.
02:35:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:35:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND
02:35:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:35:55PM WHERE IS IT YOU SUGGEST?
02:35:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYWHERE IN NEW TAMPA.
02:36:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS QUITE BROAD.
02:36:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT REALLY, BECAUSE NOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL
02:36:05PM SPACE THERE.
02:36:06PM HE IS TALKING OF COMMERCIAL.
02:36:07PM ONLY ONE OR TWO CORRIDORS OF SPACE.
02:36:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT IT IS LONG.
02:36:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE --
02:36:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS IT, HUNTER'S GREEN IS A HOT BED OF
02:36:19PM ACTIVITY.
02:36:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
02:36:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:36:24PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:36:24PM OPPOSED.
02:36:25PM AYES HAVE IT.
02:36:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DID WANT TO COMMENT.
02:36:28PM WE SAW A REPORT ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE AND
02:36:31PM WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE.
02:36:32PM I AM IN TALK WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
02:36:34PM I CALLED A FEW YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS BRIEFED ON IT THIS
02:36:38PM MORNING AS WELL.
02:36:38PM AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
02:36:40PM AND I AM SETTING TIME ASIDE TOMORROW.
02:36:42PM 9 A.M., AND I THINK 1 P.M., BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T MEET
02:36:46PM WITH THEM COLLECTIVELY BECAUSE OF ISSUES TO SPEAK WITH
02:36:50PM EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY.
02:36:51PM I DO THINK IT IS PROPER TO MAKE A MOTION LATER ON FOR
02:36:54PM COMMENDATIONS, AND WE WILL DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
02:36:57PM I THINK IT IS TERRIBLE WHAT HAS HAPPENED OBVIOUSLY.
02:37:01PM VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS
02:37:03PM OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
02:37:04PM IT IS OUTSIDE OF CITY STAFF'S CONTROL.
02:37:07PM AND I THINK THAT ANYBODY THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY LEGAL
02:37:10PM DEPARTMENT, WE CAN ASK MR. SHELBY FOR HIS OPINION ON IT AS
02:37:12PM WELL.
02:37:12PM THERE IS -- THERE IS NOTHING -- IT IS ALL FROM THE FEDERAL
02:37:17PM GOVERNMENT.
02:37:17PM AND SO I THINK IT IS TERRIBLE.
02:37:20PM I MEAN I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH BLATANT APPEALS TO RACIAL
02:37:26PM GRIEVANCE AND DIVISION COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
02:37:28PM THROUGH THINGS LIKE THIS.
02:37:29PM AND IT BREAKS MY HEART.
02:37:31PM AND IT BREAKS MY HEART FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO DESERVE
02:37:34PM BETTER AND FOR TAMPA WHO DESERVES BETTER AND FLORIDA AND THE
02:37:38PM UNITED STATES YOU HAVE AMERICA DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS.
02:37:40PM YEAH, JUST MY THOUGHTS.
02:37:42PM THANK YOU.
02:37:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU GET UNANIMOUS CONSENT ON THAT.
02:37:45PM IS THAT IS IT?
02:37:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THANK YOU.
02:37:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:37:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:37:52PM EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER MONEY AND FOR PARADES.
02:37:57PM SO WHAT I THINK I WOULD SIMPLY DO IS JUST ASK THE
02:38:02PM ADMINISTRATION TO COME TO US ON NOVEMBER 6 WITH THEIR PLAN
02:38:14PM FOR BARRICADES AND PARADES SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIND
02:38:21PM OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY PLAN TO USE STORMWATER EMPLOYEES.
02:38:24PM MY MOTION IS TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COME ON NOVEMBER 6.
02:38:30PM AND ACTUALLY A WRITTEN REPORT IS PROBABLY FINE.
02:38:33PM SO IF THAT IS THE CASE ACTUALLY, THEN I WANT TO DO THAT ON
02:38:36PM NOVEMBER 23.
02:38:37PM A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT ON HOW THE ADMINISTRATION PLANS TO
02:38:43PM PROVIDE BARRICADES FOR PARADES AND IF STORMWATER STAFF WILL
02:38:47PM BE USED FOR SUCH.
02:38:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
02:38:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW FAR AWAY IS THAT?
02:38:54PM HOW MANY WEEKS?
02:38:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TWO MONTHS.
02:38:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A FULL MONTH.
02:38:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A FULL MONTH.
02:39:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 23rd OF OCTOBER.
02:39:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU SAID NOVEMBER.
02:39:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SAID NOVEMBER, AND I WENT BACK.
02:39:06PM WRITTEN REPORT FOR, OCTOBER 23.
02:39:09PM ONLY WANTING TO GET IT DONE EARLIER IS THE SEASON REALLY
02:39:13PM STARTS IN NOVEMBER.
02:39:14PM SO IF STAFF NEEDS MORE TIME TO NOVEMBER 6, I AM OPEN
02:39:20PM TO THAT.
02:39:21PM BUT, AGAIN, A WRITTEN REPORT, NOT A ORAL ONE.
02:39:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO OCTOBER 23 THEN?
02:39:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE ROOM BECAUSE IT IS WRITTEN.
02:39:30PM OPINION.
02:39:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET YOUR POINT, BUT ARE WE DABBLING
02:39:36PM WHERE WE SHOULDN'T BE DABBLING?
02:39:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM SAYING JUST TO ASK.
02:39:41PM A WRITTEN REPORT OF FACTS.
02:39:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT QUESTIONING.
02:39:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT A QUESTION, BUT REPORT OF FACT.
02:39:49PM YOU ARE RIGHT, WE CAN'T.
02:39:50PM PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK.
02:39:52PM I WANT THE INFORMATION SO WE CAN ACCURATELY PROVIDE
02:39:55PM INFORMATION.
02:39:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST ASKED.
02:39:58PM IT DOESN'T -- WE CAN'T ORDER THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET
02:40:01PM MANAGEMENT TO DO SOMETHING, BUT WE CAN ASK.
02:40:03PM THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP.
02:40:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
02:40:07PM BIG YAWN.
02:40:08PM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:40:09PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:40:11PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:40:12PM OPPOSED.
02:40:13PM AYE HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
02:40:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE POINT OF PRIVILEGE.
02:40:18PM YESTERDAY WAS MY HUSBAND'S BIRTHDAY.
02:40:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.
02:40:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, MY GOSH.
02:40:25PM HE WILL LOVE YOU FOR THAT.
02:40:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MARRIED A MUCH YOUNGER MAN.
02:40:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MUCH LONGER.
02:40:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:40:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE NOTHING.
02:40:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE MY FAVORITE COUNCILMAN TODAY.
02:40:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REMEMBER THAT SONG "I HAVE NOTHING."
02:40:43PM SAD THINGS, ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION,
02:40:47PM AN ENERGY REPRESENTED.
02:40:52PM MARGARET VIZZI PASSED AWAY WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10.
02:40:52PM VISITATION IS ONDAY 22nd OF THIS MONTH AT 9 A.M. AT CHRIST THE
02:40:57PM KING CHURCH FOLLOWED BY A MASS AT 10 A.M..
02:41:00PM SHE WAS A WONDERFUL WOMAN.
02:41:02PM VERY LOW KEY.
02:41:03PM WHEN SHE LOOKED AT YOU, HER EYES ARE SAYING I AM TELLING YOU
02:41:08PM WHAT I WANT.
02:41:08PM SHE WAS GOOD AT DOING WHAT SHE DID.
02:41:10PM I WANT TO HONOR HER AND A FINE PERSON AND A GREAT
02:41:13PM ORGANIZATION STARTED THROUGH THAT YOU ORGANIZATION MANY WITH
02:41:16PM SOUTH TAMPA PEOPLE.
02:41:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I GOT INVOLVED WITH T.H.A.N., MARGARET
02:41:23PM VIZZI, STEVE LABORE.
02:41:27PM SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM THE ORIGINAL FAN GROUP, BUT
02:41:30PM NOW WE HAVE A NEW GENERATION TAKING IT ON.
02:41:33PM MRS. VIZZI, MARTY WILL TELL YOU.
02:41:36PM SHE IS A BIG DEAL.
02:41:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: SHE WAS PROBABLY THE MOST POWERFUL
02:41:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER I HAVE SEEN IN MY CAREER.
02:41:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DID IT WITH A KINDNESS.
02:41:45PM WHEN YOU LEFT, YOU KNEW WHAT SHE WANTED WOULDN'T HER TELLING
02:41:48PM YOU.
02:41:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STEPHANIE POYNOR.
02:41:55PM STEPHANIE, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
02:41:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T SAY THAT AT ALL.
02:41:58PM I AM THE SAME WAY SHE WAS.
02:42:00PM GET MAD.
02:42:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: EVEN IF SHE WASN'T IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
02:42:05PM WOULD CALL HER TO MAKE THINGS WERE ON HER SIDE.
02:42:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO INTERNET, NO NOTHING.
02:42:10PM AND THEY MADE AN EFFORT TO DO WHAT THEY HAD TO DO.
02:42:12PM SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CHUCK GARDEN --
02:42:16PM HEAD OF TAMPA BAY WATER TO MAKE A PRESENTATION BEFORE
02:42:18PM COUNCIL, IF POSSIBLE, DECEMBER 18 PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF
02:42:22PM MAJOR INITIATIVE THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON.
02:42:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, CAN YOU LIMIT IT TO TEN MINUTES
02:42:28PM PLEASE.
02:42:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PARDON.
02:42:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIMIT IT TO TEN MINUTES.
02:42:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOW WE HAVE THREE.
02:42:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:42:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:42:41PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:42:42PM OPPOSED.
02:42:43PM CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
02:42:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOMEBODY FROM PARKS DEPARTMENT.
02:42:47PM A CHANGE IN THE LEADERSHIP THERE.
02:42:48PM AND MADE ARRANGEMENT WITH INDIVIDUALS OF PARK AND THE
02:42:52PM PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
02:42:55PM IF THEM COME UP SOME TIME -- GIVE ME A DATE TO TALK ABOUT
02:42:59PM HENRY OLA AND THE UPDATE AND CHANGES AT THE PARK.
02:43:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO BE DETERMINED.
02:43:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO BE DETERMINED.
02:43:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GIVE ME ANY DATE YOU WANT.
02:43:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PICK A DATE.
02:43:11PM WE HAVE OUR DATE SPECIALIST, OUR CHAIR PRO TEM.
02:43:15PM KEEPER OF DATES.
02:43:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ENOUGH TIME FOR NOTICE FOR THEM.
02:43:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOVEMBER 6.
02:43:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOVEMBER 6 OF FINE ORDINANCE MANISCALCO I
02:43:24PM WILL SECOND THAT.
02:43:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PARKS, NOVEMBER 6.
02:43:27PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:43:28PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:43:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:43:31PM OPPOSED.
02:43:32PM AYES HAVE IT.
02:43:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO GIVE MY CONDOLENCES TO
02:43:40PM MARTHA VILA BECAUSE HER SISTER PASSED AT 88.
02:43:42PM WE KNOW SHE LOVES CITY COUNCIL AND WITH THE VILA BROTHERS.
02:43:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MARTHA, IF YOU WERE LISTENING, WE ARE
02:43:51PM THINKING ABOUT YOU.
02:43:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
02:43:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
02:43:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, MR.
02:43:58PM CHAIRMAN?
02:43:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO NOT.
02:43:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE --
02:44:02PM TO THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN PASSED ON SECOND READING
02:44:05PM REGARDING THE CHARTER REVIEW.
02:44:06PM IT TURNS OUT THAT ON OCTOBER 8, WHAT IS COMING TO COUNCIL IS
02:44:13PM ONLY A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT AND READS AS FOLLOWS,
02:44:18PM ADMINISTRATION TO SUBMIT THEIR LIST OF RECOMMENDED CHANGES
02:44:21PM OF THE CHARTER.
02:44:22PM AND I WOULD PERHAPS SUGGESTS WE WOULD ADD ANOTHER WRITTEN
02:44:27PM STAFF REPORT, PERHAPS BY ME, TO TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS WITH
02:44:32PM REGARD TO WHAT KIND OF STEPS COUNCIL WILL NEED TO TAKE TO
02:44:35PM GET THIS UP AND RUNNING THROUGH A RESOLUTION.
02:44:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:44:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OCTOBER 23, WE HAVE A SCHEDULED DISCUSSION
02:44:43PM REGARDING THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND SCOPE OF THE CHARTS
02:44:50PM REVIEW COMMISSION.
02:44:52PM WE DID SET UP THE WRITTEN REPORT ON THE 9th SO WE COULD TALK
02:44:56PM ABOUT IT ON THE 23rd.
02:44:58PM AND I THINK THAT WILL BE THE PERFECT PLACE FOR NEXT STEPS.
02:45:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS WONDERFUL.
02:45:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT BE BUSINESS IS DONE.
02:45:06PM WE ANTICIPATED IT AND FIX IT --
02:45:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST DIDN'T REMEMBER.
02:45:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR PUT ME ON THE SAME PAGE AS
02:45:13PM CITY COUNCIL.
02:45:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE -- IF WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR CALENDAR
02:45:17PM KEEPER, WITH WOULD WE BE.
02:45:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KEEPER OF THE DATES AND CALENDARS.
02:45:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE CLENDENIN
02:45:26PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:45:29PM SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
02:45:31PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:45:33PM OPPOSED?
02:45:35PM AYES HAVE IT.
02:45:37PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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