TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, 2025, 5:01 P.M.
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5:02:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
5:02:44PM WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING
5:02:48PM PROCEDURES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA FY '26 MILLAGE, FY '26
5:02:51PM BUDGET AND FY 26 SLASH 30 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET
5:02:55PM PROGRAM.
5:02:56PM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
5:02:58PM AND A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
5:03:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
5:03:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
5:03:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
5:03:04PM >> VIERA?
5:03:04PM CARLSON?
5:03:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
5:03:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
5:03:07PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:03:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
5:03:11PM FOR ORDER OF BUSINESS, I BELIEVE, MR. CARLSON, YOU WANTED TO
5:03:14PM BRING SOMETHING BEFORE THE BODY TONIGHT.
5:03:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, WE HIRED A BUDGET ANALYST TO GIVE US
5:03:19PM ADVICE ABOUT THE BUDGET.
5:03:20PM WE ASKED HER INFORMALLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, BUT I WOULD
5:03:25PM LIKE HER TO FORMALLY COME UP AND SEE IF SHE HAD ADVICE OR
5:03:29PM NOT.
5:03:29PM I MAKE A MOTION TO PUT HER SEPARATELY ON THE BUDGET FROM
5:03:32PM THESE OTHER ITEMS, JUST MAYBE BETWEEN 5 AND 6 OR BEFORE
5:03:36PM NUMBER 5, JUST TO GIVE US A GENERAL UPDATE.
5:03:40PM MOTION TO BRING THE BUDGET ANALYST UP BEFORE NUMBER 5 TO
5:03:43PM GIVE US A GENERAL UPDATE ABOUT ANY RECOMMENDATIONS SHE HAS
5:03:47PM FOR THE BUDGET.
5:03:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD SUGGEST AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE
5:03:51PM CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE ASK MS. KOPESKY TO DO
5:03:56PM A PRESENTATION, QUESTION AND ANSWERS.
5:04:00PM IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR?
5:04:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
5:04:02PM ASK FOR ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OVERALL SHE HAS FOR THE BUDGET.
5:04:05PM WE HAVEN'T PUBLICLY ASKED THE QUESTION.
5:04:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S DIFFERENT -- IF YOU HEAR US TALKING
5:04:11PM ABOUT NUMBERS, WE HAVE A SCRIPT FOR TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION.
5:04:15PM IT DOES NOT CORRELATE WITH THE AGENDA THAT YOU HAVE.
5:04:18PM SO WHAT -- IF YOU HEAR THAT, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO YOU, IT'S
5:04:23PM BECAUSE WE HAVE A SCRIPT.
5:04:24PM WE'LL HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TONIGHT.
5:04:27PM AFTER WE HEAR FROM THEM, WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR BUDGET ANALYST.
5:04:30PM IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU?
5:04:31PM DO WE NEED A VOTE?
5:04:34PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
5:04:36PM HURTAK.
5:04:37PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
5:04:39PM OPPOSED?
5:04:39PM THE AYES HAVE IT.
5:04:41PM THANK YOU.
5:04:41PM I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
5:04:49PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
5:04:52PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:04:53PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- YES, SIR.
5:04:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, IF I CAN,
5:05:00PM THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WILL
5:05:06PM BE MAKING A PRESENTATION.
5:05:08PM ACCORDING TO YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS, THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS
5:05:12PM NUMBERS 2 THROUGH 7, IF I UNDERSTAND, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE
5:05:15PM INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION.
5:05:16PM SO AFTER NUMBER 1 GETS UNDERWAY FORMALLY, THEN WHEN THE
5:05:22PM PRESENTATION OF MR. ROGERO IS CALLED UP, AFTER MS. KOPESKY
5:05:27PM AND THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD, THE MATTERS OF 2 THROUGH 7
5:05:32PM WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE PRESENTATION.
5:05:34PM IS THAT CORRECT?
5:05:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS CORRECT.
5:05:37PM IF I MAY POSTSCRIPT THAT, WE ALSO HAVE, AND WE CAN DO IT IN
5:05:40PM WHATEVER ORDER COUNCIL LIKES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE AS PART OF
5:05:43PM OUR PRESENTATION SOME MOTIONS MADE AT THE FIRST PUBLIC
5:05:46PM HEARING THAT DID NOT MAKE IT ON THE AGENDA.
5:05:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO CLEAR THIS UP, TONIGHT'S AGENDA WILL
5:05:55PM INCLUDE AFTER WE HEAR FROM OUR BUDGET ANALYST, MR. ROGERO
5:06:00PM WILL COME UP AND DO THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY ON THE
5:06:02PM BUDGET.
5:06:03PM DURING HIS PRESENTATION, ALL OF THE ITEMS CONTAINED IN THE
5:06:07PM ONLINE AGENDA WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO HIS PRESENTATION --
5:06:16PM ITEMS 2 THROUGH 7.
5:06:18PM YOU SAY ADDITION TO THAT, YOU HAVE MOTIONS MADE IN THE FIRST
5:06:21PM BUDGET HEARING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS DURING YOUR
5:06:23PM PRESENTATION AS WELL.
5:06:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
5:06:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE -- COUNCILMAN
5:06:28PM CARLSON.
5:06:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DID NOT MAKE THE MOTIONS ON 5, 6, 7.
5:06:32PM THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN HERE, IT SAYS OUR BUDGET ANALYST IS
5:06:35PM SUPPOSED TO WORK WITH AND PRESENT, NOT THAT THE CFO --
5:06:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THAT
5:06:39PM PRESENTATION.
5:06:40PM THEY ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO DO THAT PRESENTATION.
5:06:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CFO AND
5:06:45PM HAVING OUR BUDGET ANALYST PRESENT.
5:06:47PM THE SAME AS HAVING MARTY PRESENT VERSUS HAVING THE CITY
5:06:50PM ATTORNEY PRESENT.
5:06:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR CLARIFICATION, AFTER THE CITIZENS
5:06:55PM ADVISORY COMMITTEE DOES THEIR PRESENTATION, THE CITY WILL
5:06:58PM COME UP AND START THE PRESENTATION.
5:07:01PM DURING THAT PORTION OF THE AGENDA OF THIS SCRIPT, WHICH YOU
5:07:07PM GUYS DON'T SEE, DURING THAT PORTION OF THE SCRIPT, WE WILL
5:07:11PM ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, INCLUDING THE PRESENTATIONS FROM
5:07:14PM MS. KOPESKY.
5:07:17PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:07:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 5, 6, 7 JUST BASICALLY SAY THAT MS. KOPESKY
5:07:22PM WILL WORK WITH MR. ROGERO TO PROVIDE A REPORT.
5:07:26PM IT DOESN'T SAY THAT SHE WILL PRESENT.
5:07:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHY -- THERE WILL BE INTERACTION.
5:07:32PM SHE WILL BE THERE TO ASSIST IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS DURING
5:07:35PM THIS PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
5:07:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ASK WHEN PUBLIC COMMENT IS?
5:07:40PM THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW.
5:07:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL OPEN THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND
5:07:45PM PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE DONE AFTER CITY COUNCIL DOES THEIR
5:07:57PM INITIAL ROUND OF QUESTIONS.
5:07:58PM AFTER 7.
5:08:01PM ARE WE CLEAR?
5:08:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO COUNCIL KNOWS AND THE PUBLIC KNOWS,
5:08:09PM THE REASON WE ARE DOING IT IN THIS PARTICULAR ORDER, THERE
5:08:11PM ARE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT PER FLORIDA STATUTES THAT
5:08:15PM HAVE TO BE MET IN ORDER TO LEGALLY ADOPT THIS BUDGET.
5:08:18PM WE ARE VERY MINDFUL OF OUR OBLIGATIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO
5:08:22PM THINGS IN A PARTICULAR ORDER SO THAT WE COMPLY WITH FLORIDA
5:08:26PM LAW SO WE DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD LATER FIND OUT AND
5:08:32PM REGRET.
5:08:33PM THANK YOU.
5:08:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO ADD, JUST LIKE IN THE CASE
5:08:37PM WITH MARTY, HE'S OUR REPRESENTATIVE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A
5:08:42PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE BOUND BY FLORIDA BAR OF
5:08:45PM ETHICS, WE HAVE OUR OWN ATTORNEY WHO IS GIVING US HIS VIEW
5:08:48PM REPRESENTING US.
5:08:49PM AND FOR THE SAME REASON, WE HAVE A CFO THAT REPRESENTS THE
5:08:53PM CITY AND THEN A BUDGET ANALYST THAT REPRESENTS US.
5:08:55PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, THAT OUR
5:09:01PM BUDGET ANALYST IS REPRESENTING US AND PRESENTING THE
5:09:04PM INFORMATION NOT JUST AS CFO.
5:09:06PM NOT THAT THE CFO WOULDN'T PRESENT IT THE SAME WAY, BUT I
5:09:10PM WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVE IS REPRESENTING US
5:09:13PM AND PRESENTING THE INFORMATION.
5:09:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THAT WAS ADDRESSED BY
5:09:16PM THE MOTION YOU MADE.
5:09:18PM SHE WILL ACTUALLY BE SPEAKING PRIOR TO THE CITY'S
5:09:22PM PRESENTATION.
5:09:22PM SO SHE WILL BE SPEAKING AFTER THE CITIZEN, BASED ON YOUR
5:09:26PM MOTION THAT WE PASSED, WE INSERTED IN THE AGENDA AFTER
5:09:30PM CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY PRESENTATION, WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR
5:09:32PM BUDGET ANALYST.
5:09:33PM SO SHE'S GOING TO SPEAK FIRST.
5:09:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MEANT FOR 4, 5, 6, 7.
5:09:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF YOU HAVE Q & A, SHE IS THE SUBJECT
5:09:41PM MATTER EXPERT.
5:09:42PM WE CAN HAVE HER UP HERE AND PUT HER ON THE SPOT.
5:09:45PM I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
5:09:47PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:09:48PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
5:09:50PM OPPOSED?
5:09:50PM AYES HAVE IT.
5:09:51PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:09:51PM SO I'D LIKE A MOTION AND ROLL CALL VOTE TO OPEN THE SECOND
5:09:59PM PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE FY '2026 MILLAGE
5:10:03PM RATE, FY '2026 BUDGET, AND FY '2026 THROUGH FY '2030 CAPITAL
5:10:08PM IMPROVEMENT BUDGET AND PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA PER
5:10:11PM FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 200.065, THE FY '2026 FINAL MILLAGE
5:10:18PM RATE NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED BY A SEPARATE VOTE PRIOR TO
5:10:21PM ADOPTING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGETS.
5:10:25PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:10:26PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:10:28PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
5:10:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
5:10:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
5:10:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
5:10:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
5:10:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:10:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
5:10:37PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5:10:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE FINANCE
5:10:42PM CHAIR, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:10:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND PUBLIC HEARING STATEMENT.
5:10:48PM THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
5:10:51PM FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET.
5:10:53PM PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE IS 6.2076 MILLS, WHICH IS 4.27% MORE
5:11:00PM THAN THE ROLLED BACK MILLAGE RATE OF 5.95 POINT THREE MILLS.
5:11:07PM PROPERTY TAX FUNDS ARE USED TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND
5:11:10PM OPERATING BUDGET AND THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
5:11:14PM FUNDS OF THE CITY.
5:11:14PM THE GENERAL FUND INCLUDES SUCH DEPARTMENTS AS FIRE RESCUE,
5:11:18PM POLICE, HUMAN RESOURCES, PARKS AND RECREATION.
5:11:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON THE MILLAGE RATE, 5.9535 MILLS.
5:11:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 5.9535 MILLS.
5:11:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU SAID AN EXTRA DECIMAL.
5:11:38PM THANK YOU.
5:11:40PM NOW WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY
5:11:45PM COMMITTEE.
5:11:46PM I SEE THE CHAIR.
5:11:47PM I SPOKE WITH HIM EARLIER.
5:11:49PM HE IS ON HIS WAY, BUT HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ON TIME.
5:11:51PM VICE-CHAIR IS HERE.
5:11:53PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
5:11:54PM MR. SCAGLIONE OWES YOU A NICE DINNER NOW.
5:12:12PM >> YEAH, SURE DOES.
5:12:13PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
5:12:13PM I STAND HERE AS THE VICE-CHAIR OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW BUDGET
5:12:18PM COMMITTEE.
5:12:18PM ANYWAY, THE COMMITTEE MADE THE FOLLOWING MOTIONS: ONE, THE
5:12:23PM CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD DO FURTHER DUE DILIGENCE ON THE COST OF
5:12:25PM THE FORENSICS FACILITY ON HOWARD AND THE HOWARD AVENUE
5:12:29PM STORMWATER PROJECT TO SEE IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR
5:12:32PM FURTHER COST SAVINGS OR ALTERNATIVE PLANS THAT WOULD RESULT
5:12:36PM IN MORE COST EFFICIENCIES.
5:12:39PM THE COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED A TOUR OF THE CURRENT FACILITIES
5:12:42PM AT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS IN ORDER TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE
5:12:45PM NEEDS OF TPD FOR THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT -- FOR THAT
5:12:49PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
5:12:50PM THE SECOND MOTION THAT WAS MADE WAS THE CITY OF TAMPA SHOULD
5:12:55PM REFRAIN FROM ANY ADDITIONAL HORIZONTAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
5:12:59PM PROJECTS -- I CAN DEFINE THAT IF YOU NEED IT -- UNTIL THE
5:13:03PM FACILITY'S MASTER PLAN WITH SPACE UTILIZATION STUDY HAS BEEN
5:13:07PM COMPLETED.
5:13:08PM THIS STUDY WILL DETERMINE THE NEEDS OF THE CITY FOR
5:13:12PM ADDITIONAL SPACES.
5:13:13PM BOTH OF THESE MOTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE CONCERN FOR THE
5:13:16PM AMOUNT OF BONDING DEBT THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PRESENTED AND
5:13:22PM BEING TAKEN ON BY THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR NONESSENTIAL
5:13:26PM PROJECTS AND POSSIBLE DECLINING VALUES IN THE TAX BASE.
5:13:30PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:13:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:13:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SINCE THIS IS NICELY WRITTEN, IF YOU WOULDN'T
5:13:42PM MIND USING THE WOLF MAYBE AND LEAVING IT UP FOR A MOMENT SO
5:13:44PM THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT.
5:13:48PM >> SORRY.
5:13:49PM I HAD AN EXTRA COPY.
5:13:51PM I SHOULD HAVE LEFT ONE.
5:13:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'LL LEAVE IT UP FOR A SECOND.
5:13:54PM COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE HORIZONTAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
5:13:57PM PROJECTS THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO?
5:14:00PM >> THAT MEANS NOT INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THINGS THAT WE'RE
5:14:03PM BUILDING UP.
5:14:03PM AND THAT WAS MR. PERRY WAS NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE US THAT
5:14:08PM DEFINITION.
5:14:09PM WE DID NOT WANT TO IMPACT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, BUT
5:14:12PM PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED OPTIONAL, I GUESS, WOULD
5:14:17PM BE MORE FOR THE CASE IN THE SITUATION.
5:14:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS MIGHT NOT BE A YOU QUESTION, BUT MAYBE
5:14:30PM YOU DO HAVE THE ANSWER FOR ME.
5:14:32PM A, WHEN DO WE EXPECT THE FACILITY'S MASTER PLAN TO BE
5:14:37PM COMPLETED?
5:14:39PM >> IT HASN'T STARTED YET, AND THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE ASKED
5:14:44PM FOR IN THE NEXT 30, 60 DAYS OR SO.
5:14:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
5:14:50PM >> -- ALREADY DOING THE PROJECT FOR IT, WHICH IS SOMETHING
5:14:52PM WE WERE ASKING ABOUT AND MR. PERRY SAID IT WAS ALREADY
5:14:55PM COMING FORWARD TO COUNCIL AT SOME POINT.
5:14:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
5:14:58PM THANK YOU.
5:15:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
5:15:01PM HEARING NONE --
5:15:03PM >> MR. PERRY IS A VERY VALUABLE MEMBER OF OUR COMMITTEE.
5:15:08PM GLAD TO HAVE HIM.
5:15:09PM HE KNOWS ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
5:15:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. PERRY'S VALUE.
5:15:14PM CITY OF TAMPA PRESENTATION FOR THE 2026 MILLAGE RATE -- I'M
5:15:18PM SORRY.
5:15:19PM I FORGOT.
5:15:20PM I PENCILED IN HAGAR.
5:15:21PM TAG, YOU'RE IT.
5:15:23PM MS. KOPESKY.
5:15:31PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
5:15:33PM I KNOW THERE WAS A MEMO THAT CAME OUT TODAY REQUESTING
5:15:38PM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
5:15:39PM I DO WANT TO CUT TO THE CHASE AND SAY ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND
5:15:43PM THERE IS A DESIRE TO HAVE FEEDBACK ON THAT, THAT WAS NOT
5:15:45PM SOMETHING THAT I UNDERSTOOD TO BE A SPECIFIC DIRECTIVE.
5:15:48PM AS SUCH, I AM NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK TO THAT.
5:15:51PM THAT SAID, THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE DID TALK ABOUT THE
5:15:56PM FACT THAT AS PART OF WHETHER IT IS MY ONGOING
5:15:58PM RESPONSIBILITIES OR WHETHER IT IS THE CITIZENS ADVISORY OR A
5:16:01PM COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO WHAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IS TO HAVE
5:16:05PM MORE REGULAR MEETINGS, I.E., QUARTERLY LEVELS, TO HAVE
5:16:08PM FEEDBACK GIVEN.
5:16:09PM THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE AN INTEREST
5:16:12PM IN SPECIFICALLY THE FACT THAT WE'RE IN THE BUDGET CYCLE, BUT
5:16:16PM I WANT THE COUNCIL TO REMEMBER THAT, YES, THE BUDGET IS SET
5:16:19PM IN MOTION AS A POINT IN TIME.
5:16:22PM BUT COST SAVINGS, REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES, ALL THOSE THINGS
5:16:26PM ARE LIVE AND THEY OCCUR CONSTANTLY.
5:16:28PM SO AS SUCH, THE ABILITY TO REPORT BACK ON THOSE THINGS
5:16:32PM THROUGHOUT A FISCAL PERIOD IS REALLY WHERE THAT COMES FROM.
5:16:35PM I'M NOT TRYING TO SHORTCUT THE ANSWER, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
5:16:38PM BUT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO A FORMAL REPORT TODAY.
5:16:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IN THE ADVOCATING FOR THIS POSITION
5:16:48PM AND THE HIRING OF THIS POSITION, GIVING FEEDBACK ON THE
5:16:52PM BUDGET WAS A BASIC -- THE CORE BASIC DUTY OF THIS POSITION.
5:16:56PM IT CAME TO LIGHT BECAUSE SOMEONE IN PUBLIC COMMENT A COUPLE
5:17:00PM OF WEEKS AGO MENTIONED IT.
5:17:01PM IT SEEMED TO ME WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE A SPECIFIC MOTION
5:17:04PM ABOUT IT, ALTHOUGH I DID TONIGHT.
5:17:06PM I THINK THE PURPOSE WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE EXTRA HANDS WITH
5:17:10PM SOMEONE WITH EXPERTISE WHO WOULD LOOK THROUGH AND ADVISE US
5:17:14PM ON THE BUDGET.
5:17:14PM IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF TIME WAS SPENT ON MILLION AND A HALF
5:17:17PM DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET BUT WHAT ABOUT 1.95 BILLION.
5:17:20PM THE PUBLIC IS EXPECTING US TO EVALUATE THE LARGER BUDGET,
5:17:28PM BUT WE SEEM TO HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE 1.5 INSTEAD.
5:17:32PM I HOPE WE CAN FIX THAT GOING FORWARD.
5:17:34PM MAYBE HAVE A WORKSHOP DISCUSSION SOMETIME ABOUT WHAT THIS
5:17:36PM POSITION IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
5:17:38PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU AND I
5:17:41PM HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT DOES GO ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
5:17:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: HELPFUL ALSO IF YOU RETURNED THE E-MAILS OF
5:17:46PM MY AIDE AND SET UP A MEETING AS WELL.
5:17:48PM THANK YOU.
5:17:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
5:17:50PM HAGAR, WHEN WE HAVE A NEW POSITION, RIGHT, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD
5:17:55PM TO HAVE PROCEDURES AND EVERYTHING OUTLINED.
5:18:00PM I THINK SOMETIMES WITH YOUR POSITION, IT'S NOT YOU.
5:18:03PM IT'S JUST THE POSITION THAT WHEN SOMETHING IS DONE, WE NEED
5:18:06PM TO BETTER OUTLINE FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE EXPECTATIONS
5:18:10PM OF US AND VICE VERSA.
5:18:12PM IT'S SORT OF -- I THINK THIS SITUATION IS A VICTIM OF THE
5:18:16PM POSITION AND NOT YOU.
5:18:17PM YOU DO -- I THINK YOU DO A FINE JOB AND SO FORTH.
5:18:21PM IT'S JUST THERE NEEDS TO BE, THERE'S SUBSTANCE AND THERE'S
5:18:25PM PROCEDURE.
5:18:26PM I THINK THIS POSITION, THIS IS YOUR SECOND BUDGET, IS IT?
5:18:31PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: I JOINED IN JUNE.
5:18:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S YOUR SECOND BUDGET.
5:18:35PM I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO DEFINE THE PROCEDURES FOR
5:18:40PM YOUR POSITION AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT SO YOU CAN CONTINUE
5:18:43PM TO DO GREAT WORK AND MAXIMIZE YOUR POTENTIAL FOR THE CITY
5:18:48PM AND EVERYTHING HERE.
5:18:49PM I THINK THAT IS THE BEST THING TO DO.
5:18:51PM AND WE CAN THINK ABOUT THINGS TO DEFINE THE PROCEDURE OF
5:18:55PM YOUR POSITION.
5:18:56PM SOMETIMES YOU CREATE A POSITION AND YOU'RE LIKE, GO FORTH
5:18:59PM AND CONQUER.
5:19:00PM IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO I DO?
5:19:01PM I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING INCUMBENT ON US.
5:19:05PM I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK AND EVERYTHING.
5:19:07PM THANK YOU.
5:19:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMAN
5:19:08PM MIRANDA.
5:19:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:19:12PM I HAVE THOROUGHLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH MS. KOPESKY.
5:19:17PM SHE ANSWERS EVERY QUESTION I HAVE.
5:19:20PM BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS THE BUDGET IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
5:19:23PM WE ARE THE ONES SUPPOSED TO READ IT.
5:19:25PM WE ARE THE ONES TO DIG THROUGH IT AND FIND WHAT WE NEED.
5:19:28PM MS. KOPESKY HAS BEEN HELPFUL WHEN I GO DIGGING, BUT IT'S
5:19:32PM STILL MY RESPONSIBILITY.
5:19:33PM THE BUDGET IS COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY.
5:19:34PM SO WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DIGGING AND
5:19:38PM FINDING AND WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND OTHERS.
5:19:41PM I HAVE APPRECIATED THE HELP.
5:19:47PM HONESTLY, ALSO, GREATLY APPRECIATE MR. ROGERO AND MR. PERRY
5:19:53PM WHO ARE CONSTANTLY ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOR ME.
5:19:56PM WE'LL MEET -- YEAH, I ASKED FOR A MEETING WITH MR. ROGERO ON
5:20:01PM MONDAY FOR TODAY.
5:20:03PM WE WERE ABLE TO FIT IT IN.
5:20:05PM I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF THE STUFF, THE THINGS THAT YOU
5:20:08PM WANT TO FOCUS ON, JUST REACH OUT AND ASK FOR THAT.
5:20:14PM BECAUSE THE BUDGET AS A WHOLE IS REALLY HARD TO ASK SOMEONE
5:20:17PM TO LOOK AT AND GIVE THEIR OPINION ON.
5:20:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:20:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
5:20:23PM I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:20:26PM I THINK SHE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, WONDERFUL JOB.
5:20:29PM HOWEVER, I BELIEVE I MADE A MOTION SOME MONTHS BACK THAT IT
5:20:33PM WOULD TAKE SEVEN OF US.
5:20:34PM VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK FOR SEVEN BOSSES.
5:20:39PM SIX, SEVEN OF US HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, DIFFERENT LOOKS,
5:20:42PM DIFFERENT IDEAS.
5:20:43PM IT WOULD DRIVE YOU CRAZY.
5:20:45PM I MADE A MOTION SOMETIME BACK WHERE IT WOULD TAKE THE SEVEN
5:20:48PM OF US TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE BUDGET ANALYST ON WHAT WE
5:20:52PM WANT DONE.
5:20:52PM I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN FOLLOWED.
5:20:54PM BUT I'M JUST LOOKING IN HER SHOES, I WOULD BE TOTALLY
5:20:58PM DISARRAY WHAT'S GOING ON.
5:21:00PM UNLESS ONE TELLS ME VOTED ON FOR HER TO REVIEW THOSE THINGS.
5:21:06PM I DON'T THINK IT'S HAPPENED.
5:21:07PM ANYBODY'S FAULT, IT'S OUR FAULT, NOT HERS.
5:21:10PM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
5:21:12PM YOU'RE NOT MAKING THE BUDGET.
5:21:13PM YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE BUDGET NUMBERS ARE CORRECT AND THAT
5:21:15PM THE PUBLIC GETS A DOLLAR SPENT FOR EVERY DOLLAR COLLECTED.
5:21:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS THE ONE THAT CREATED THE JOB
5:21:27PM DESCRIPTION.
5:21:27PM I THINK IT'S CLEAR AND THUS FAR IT'S MET MY EXPECTATION OF
5:21:34PM WHAT I ENVISIONED THE ROLE OF THE BUDGET ANALYST.
5:21:39PM MAYBE IT'S A DISCONNECT -- I'M IN THE SAME BOAT THAT
5:21:43PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS.
5:21:46PM WHEN I CALLED, FROM THE MOMENT WE GOT THIS BUDGET DELIVERED
5:21:49PM TO US, I HIGHLIGHTED -- I HAD MY STICKY NOTES ALL OVER THAT.
5:21:53PM THE FIRST PERSON I CALLED WAS OUR CITY COUNCIL BUDGET
5:21:56PM ANALYST TO GO OVER EACH ONE OF THE ITEMS.
5:21:59PM I DIDN'T CALL CITY STAFF.
5:22:01PM I CALLED HER.
5:22:01PM WE HAD A MEETING AND DISCUSSED EACH ONE OF THE ITEMS AND SHE
5:22:04PM DID THE RESEARCH BASED ON MY REQUEST OF HER.
5:22:07PM I GAVE HER VERY SPECIFIC REQUESTS.
5:22:09PM EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.
5:22:11PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
5:22:12PM CAN YOU FIND OUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
5:22:14PM SHE TOOK THAT LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS THAT I HAD AND SHE
5:22:19PM BROUGHT THOSE ANSWERS AND ARRANGED A PHONE CALL I HAD WITH
5:22:23PM OUR CITY STAFF TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.
5:22:26PM SOME OF YOU ALL HAVE DONE THIS SEVERAL YEARS.
5:22:36PM SOME OF US, WE'VE DONE IT TWICE.
5:22:38PM IT'S A LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
5:22:41PM IN FACT, JUST TODAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LESSONS LEARNED
5:22:46PM EVEN IN THIS PROCESS.
5:22:47PM SO TAKING FROM WHAT WE LEARNED LAST TIME AND IMPROVING IT
5:22:51PM THIS TIME.
5:22:52PM WE SPITBALLED, AND I HAD TIM TAKE NOTES OF SOME OF MY
5:22:56PM SPITBALLING IN THE OFFICE TODAY ABOUT THINGS I WOULD EXPECT
5:22:59PM OUT OF THE 2027 BUDGET CYCLE, WHAT I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.
5:23:03PM I THINK THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE, AND YOU HIT IT, COUNCILMAN
5:23:07PM CARLSON, SOMETIME IN THE FIRST HALF OF THIS NEXT YEAR, WE
5:23:12PM NEED TO DO A WORKSHOP PREPARING FOR THE 2027 BUDGET CYCLE SO
5:23:16PM THAT WE ALL HAVE -- EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE.
5:23:19PM WE HAVE THE SAME EXPECTATIONS SO THAT WHEN THE CITY COMES TO
5:23:22PM US WITH A BUDGET, THEY ARE BRINGING TO US THE PRODUCT WE
5:23:26PM EXPECT WITH THE DETAIL WE EXPECT.
5:23:29PM WHEN OUR RESOURCES COME TO US THAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE MET.
5:23:34PM I AGREE THAT I THINK THIS SHOULD BE THE SUBJECT OF A
5:23:37PM WORKSHOP IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE NEXT YEAR.
5:23:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ADD, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN
5:23:44PM DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF YOURS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT
5:23:48PM ALL THAT HERE.
5:23:49PM THE THING IS, FIRST TO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, WE DO
5:23:55PM ALL HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO READ THE BUDGET.
5:23:57PM I THINK WE ALL READ IT THOROUGHLY.
5:23:59PM GIVEN FEEDBACK PUBLICLY.
5:24:01PM I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS SAYING NONE OF US HAVE READ IT.
5:24:04PM I'M TALKING ABOUT THE POSITION, NOT THE PERSON.
5:24:06PM IT IS THE SAME AS MARTY WORKING WITH US.
5:24:10PM WHEN CONTRACTS COME BEFORE US, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO READ
5:24:13PM THE CONTRACTORS, BUT WE'RE NOT LAWYERS.
5:24:15PM SO WE MAY MISS SOMETHING THAT MARTY MIGHT PICK UP.
5:24:18PM MARTY WILL GO THROUGH PROACTIVELY, ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS BUT
5:24:22PM ALSO GO THROUGH PROACTIVELY AND SEES SOMETHING OF INTEREST,
5:24:26PM HE'LL CALL US UP AND I THINK HE CALLS ALL SEVEN OF US.
5:24:29PM I EXPECT THE SAME THING WITH BUDGET ADVISOR.
5:24:32PM I'M NOT AN ACCOUNTANT JUST LIKE I'M NOT A LAWYER.
5:24:35PM I READ THE NUMBERS.
5:24:36PM I READ THE BUDGET.
5:24:37PM IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE BUDGET ANALYST ON A REGULAR
5:24:41PM BASIS, AS SHE MENTIONED, BUT ALSO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS DO AN
5:24:44PM ANALYSIS AND COME BACK.
5:24:45PM MY QUESTION TODAY WAS NOT TO TRY TO SET HER UP.
5:24:49PM IT'S THAT THE PUBLIC ASKED FOR THE ANSWER.
5:24:51PM IF WE END UP APPROVING THE BUDGET WITH VERY FEW CHANGES, WE
5:24:55PM AT LEAST HAVE NOW THE OFFICIAL OPINION IN THE LAST HEARING
5:24:59PM FROM THE COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE THE OPINION FROM OUR BUDGET
5:25:02PM ANALYST AND THEN WE GO FORWARD WITH OUR OWN ANALYSIS.
5:25:05PM THANK YOU.
5:25:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
5:25:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GOOD.
5:25:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
5:25:10PM ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
5:25:13PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY: ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
5:25:16PM OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A BIT OF A GAP IN EXPECTATION.
5:25:18PM I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE CASE.
5:25:20PM ONCE WE MOVE PAST TODAY, WE NEED TO RESOLVE THAT AND I WOULD
5:25:23PM LIKE TO RESOLVE THAT.
5:25:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING DIRECTLY, MA'AM.
5:25:31PM WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF AN E-MAIL WAS SENT AND IT WASN'T
5:25:35PM RESPONDED TO, MAYBE WE CAN PASS A FORMAL RESOLUTION NOT
5:25:38PM DIRECTED AT YOU, BUT JUST AT THE POSITION IN GENERAL.
5:25:42PM EXPECTATION TO HAVE A RESPONSIVE E-MAIL WITHIN THREE DAYS,
5:25:45PM FIVE DAYS, WHATEVER, JUST TO, AGAIN, ON ISSUES LIKE THAT.
5:25:50PM AGAIN, SETTING FORTH RULES.
5:25:52PM NOT DIRECTED TO THE PERSON AND THE POSITION, JUST TO THE
5:25:55PM POSITION, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEW.
5:25:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE SET UP A CHAIN OF COMMAND FOR THIS
5:26:01PM POSITION.
5:26:02PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WAS IN A POSITION OF RECORD AS CHAIR
5:26:07PM AND NOW IT'S GONE TO ME.
5:26:09PM AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT VIOLATES SUNSHINE, AND IF
5:26:13PM IT IS A WORK-RELATED ISSUE, I THINK IF YOU WERE TO BRING IT
5:26:16PM TO THE ATTENTION OF THE CHAIR, NONRESPONSIVENESS, WE COULD
5:26:21PM BE A CONDUIT AS WELL AND ASSIST IN THINGS LIKE THAT.
5:26:24PM I WOULD SUGGEST JUST MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T VIOLATE SUNSHINE.
5:26:27PM IF THERE IS AN ISSUE OF EMPLOYMENT, BRING IT TO THE
5:26:32PM ATTENTION OF THE CHAIR AND I CAN ADDRESS THAT.
5:26:35PM THANK YOU.
5:26:35PM NOW WE ARE AT THE BIG SHOWTIME.
5:26:40PM CFO, MR. ROGERO.
5:26:43PM FOR THOSE OF YOU FOLLOWING IN THE AUDIENCE, WE ARE NOW
5:26:51PM ADDRESSING ITEMS 2 THROUGH 7 PLUS RESOLUTIONS OR MOTIONS
5:26:54PM THAT WERE PASSED AT THE FIRST BUDGET HEARING.
5:26:56PM YES, SIR.
5:27:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
5:27:13PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
5:27:15PM DO WE NOT HAVE ENOUGH?
5:27:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL FOLLOW ALONG.
5:27:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DID WE SHORT YOU?
5:27:23PM I APOLOGIZE.
5:27:24PM ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
5:27:34PM I SURE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORT.
5:27:36PM I ALSO APPRECIATE MS. KOPESKY'S TIME AND EFFORT AND, OF
5:27:40PM COURSE, THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
5:27:42PM IT'S BEEN QUITE A JOURNEY.
5:27:44PM AGAIN, YOU SEE LEADERSHIP IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR
5:27:48PM QUESTIONS AND SHARE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
5:27:50PM AND OUR PRESENTATION AS THE CHAIR SAID IS SIMPLY THE ITEMS
5:27:55PM LEFT OVER FROM THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND, OF COURSE,
5:27:58PM ITEMS THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO COME BACK ON HERE AT THIS
5:28:03PM SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
5:28:03PM IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE?
5:28:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE GOOD.
5:28:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
5:28:11PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2 WAS THE PARKS ADA IMPROVEMENTS.
5:28:15PM YOU SEE HERE WE HAVE PROVIDED A STATUS AS OF JULY 31st
5:28:20PM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
5:28:21PM THE ADA IMPROVEMENTS ARE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, AS
5:28:25PM YOU KNOW.
5:28:26PM YOU SEE THE BUDGET IS A LITTLE OVER $3.3 MILLION WITH A
5:28:29PM LITTLE OVER 1.1 MILLION EITHER ACTUALLY SPENT OR PURCHASE
5:28:35PM ORDERS HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR IT.
5:28:36PM YOU SEE THE BALANCE ON THE FAR RIGHT.
5:28:39PM LITTLE OVER $2.1 MILLION.
5:28:40PM THAT'S THE STATUS AS OF JULY 31st, BUT MOVING INTO THE
5:28:45PM NEXT SLIDE, WE ALSO ANTICIPATE ADDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING
5:28:49PM OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF $1.6 MILLION.
5:28:53PM THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THE MOTION IS ALL OF THE FUNDING
5:28:58PM ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT ARE FOR THE ACTUAL DISABILITY
5:29:04PM IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PARKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
5:29:07PM SOME, A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING NOT ONLY TO DATE, BUT
5:29:13PM ANTICIPATED OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
5:29:16PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 --
5:29:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE WANT TO PAUSE FOR EACH?
5:29:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
5:29:27PM I WAS WRITING SOME STUFF DOWN.
5:29:28PM IF I MAY.
5:29:29PM THANK YOU, SIR.
5:29:30PM THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
5:29:31PM A COUPLE OF THINGS I HAD QUICK QUESTIONS ON, SIR.
5:29:34PM WITH REGARDS TO ADA IMPROVEMENTS, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES AS
5:29:36PM WE DISCUSSED BETWEEN ADA IMPROVEMENTS ON PATHWAY TO THE PARK
5:29:40PM FOR SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE MOBILITY CHALLENGES AS OPPOSED TO A
5:29:43PM PIECE OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT CAN BE ACCESSIBLE TO A
5:29:47PM PERSON WITH A DISABILITY.
5:29:50PM I WAS ACTUALLY E-MAILING MY ASSISTANT BRANDON IN A MOTION
5:29:53PM FOR THAT TO GET SPECIFICITY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN
5:29:56PM ANSWER THAT QUESTION, IF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE TO --
5:30:01PM PATHWAYS TO REACH THE PARK OR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
5:30:04PM IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN ANSWER AT THIS TIME?
5:30:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I CANNOT.
5:30:08PM I DON'T KNOW IF LEADERSHIP -- MS. WYNN.
5:30:10PM EXCUSE ME.
5:30:12PM ADMINISTRATOR WYNN.
5:30:13PM >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD EVENING.
5:30:17PM OCEA WYNN.
5:30:18PM YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA, IN THE C.I.P., THOSE PROJECTS ARE THE
5:30:22PM PROJECTS FOR THE LARGE MAJOR PROJECTS PUTTING IN ADA RELATED
5:30:28PM SAFETY ASPHALT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
5:30:32PM THOSE TYPE PROJECTS.
5:30:33PM WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EQUIPMENT, AS WE ARE RENOVATING
5:30:38PM PARKS OR AS WE ARE MAKING ANY TYPE OF CHANGES, THAT'S WHEN
5:30:43PM WE'RE PUTTING IN THE ADA PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
5:30:48PM THOSE PURCHASES OR THOSE PROJECTS ARE OPERATING, COME UNDER
5:30:53PM OUR OPERATING.
5:30:54PM BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE C.I.P.
5:30:57PM AND THE C.I.P. IS, IN FACT, THOSE LARGE PROJECTS --
5:31:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MS. WYNN FOR THAT.
5:31:04PM I'M GOING TO BE MAKING A MOTION TO SEE WHAT PARKS HAVE
5:31:08PM PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AS OPPOSED TO ACCESSIBILITY BECAUSE I
5:31:11PM THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
5:31:13PM BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK -- THIS IS CRA WORLD.
5:31:17PM THIS IS CRA WORLD.
5:31:18PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
5:31:23PM EQUIPMENT.
5:31:23PM MY SECOND QUESTION WAS -- I HAD SPECIFIED IN THE MOTION AS
5:31:29PM WELL SINCE WE'RE USING CRA MONEY TO HELP THE CRA AREAS,
5:31:33PM SOUTH TAMPA AND THEN NORTH TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA ARE OBVIOUSLY
5:31:37PM NOW PARTS OF THE CRA, SO ARE THESE FUNDS GOING TO BE --
5:31:41PM THERE'S $2 MILLION, ARE WE GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON SOUTH
5:31:44PM TAMPA AND NORTH TAMPA?
5:31:46PM AGAIN, WE DON'T GET CRAs OUT THERE.
5:31:48PM I'M ALL FOR CRAs.
5:31:52PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
5:31:54PM WE DO HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT FOR GADSDEN PARK.
5:32:03PM WE HAVE A NEW PREFAB RESTROOM WITH UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE
5:32:08PM AND HOOKUPS.
5:32:09PM SO WE DO LOOK AT DISTRIBUTING THOSE FUNDS OUTSIDE OF THE
5:32:12PM CRA.
5:32:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I'LL DO, ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY, I'LL
5:32:17PM MAKE A MOTION ON THURSDAY IN THAT REGARD TO TAKE A LOOK AT
5:32:21PM NORTH AND SOUTH TAMPA.
5:32:22PM I SAY -- I DON'T REPRESENT SOUTH TAMPA.
5:32:25PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON DOES AND WORKS VERY HARD FOR SOUTH TAMPA.
5:32:28PM I SAY THAT BECAUSE ALL AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE CRA, THAT'S ALL.
5:32:32PM IT COULD BE SULPHUR SPRINGS, NORTH TAMPA, ANY OTHER PART
5:32:36PM THAT'S NOT IN THE CRA.
5:32:38PM I JUST SPECIFY THAT FOR SIMPLICITY AND EVERYTHING.
5:32:42PM I THINK THAT'S IT.
5:32:43PM THANK YOU.
5:32:44PM IN TERMS OF MY MOTION, HOW CAN I SAY THIS?
5:32:47PM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE WHAT AT LEAST I FAVOR AT THIS TIME.
5:32:51PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS DEVELOPING, AND WE CAN CHANGE IT
5:32:57PM AS THE YEAR GOES BY ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WE
5:33:00PM HAVE.
5:33:01PM I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY CITY PARK
5:33:04PM HAS PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT IS ACCESSIBLE.
5:33:08PM EVERY SINGLE CITY PARK HAS THAT.
5:33:13PM I KNOW WE AGREE ON THAT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WHEN I TALK
5:33:16PM ABOUT ADA ACCESSIBILITY, IT'S NOT JUST BEING ABLE TO REACH
5:33:19PM THAT PARK BUT BEING ABLE TO USE THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
5:33:22PM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
5:33:23PM THANK YOU.
5:33:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. WYNN, A QUESTION.
5:33:26PM JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE PROJECT BALANCE OF 2112434 IS THE
5:33:30PM MONEY THAT WE WILL HAVE AVAILABLE TO US IN 2026 FOR C.I.P.
5:33:36PM ADA IMPROVEMENTS?
5:33:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: PARTIALLY, YES.
5:33:42PM THAT'S THE MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW AND WILL CARRY
5:33:45PM FORWARD INTO FISCAL YEAR '26.
5:33:46PM YOU WILL HAVE MORE MONEY SHOULD COUNCIL ADOPT THE C.I.P.
5:33:49PM TONIGHT WITH THE FISCAL YEAR '26 COMPONENT.
5:33:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS THE CARRYOVER WE STILL HAVE
5:33:54PM AVAILABLE.
5:33:55PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:33:56PM ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS ITEM?
5:33:57PM LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 3.
5:34:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR BRINGING
5:34:05PM IT UP AND ESPECIALLY THE NON-CRA AREAS, INCLUDING SOUTH
5:34:08PM TAMPA.
5:34:09PM I AGREE AND HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FROM CONSTITUENTS ASKING
5:34:11PM FOR ADA EQUIPMENT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE KIDS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
5:34:16PM THANK YOU.
5:34:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
5:34:18PM MOVING ON, IF I COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
5:34:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE GOOD.
5:34:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
5:34:24PM ITEM NUMBER 3, YOU SEE HERE, APPEAR ON WHAT WE INTEND TO PUT
5:34:29PM IN THE FISCAL'S BUDGET FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
5:34:33PM WE HAVE A SUMMATION ON THE SLIDE YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, WE
5:34:38PM ALSO HAVE A DETAILED HANDOUT THAT MR. PERRY WILL BE GIVING
5:34:41PM TO YOU THAT GOES -- WELL, GOES INTO AN ITEMIZATION OF BOTH
5:34:45PM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THE OPERATING EXPENSES, AND
5:34:48PM THE POTENTIAL AT THE BOTTOM.
5:34:50PM YOU SEE IN FISCAL YEAR '26, A LITTLE OVER $23.3 MILLION WITH
5:34:56PM SOME SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FORESEEN OVER
5:35:01PM THE FISCAL YEAR '27 THROUGH '30.
5:35:05PM I'LL GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO RECEIVE THOSE HANDOUTS AND WE CAN
5:35:09PM DISCUSS ANY PARTICULAR ITEMS.
5:35:12PM THERE'S SIMPLY TOO MUCH TO PUT ON A SLIDE.
5:35:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE'RE GOOD TO GO?
5:35:47PM THANK YOU.
5:35:48PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF YOU HAD ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.
5:35:52PM AS ALWAYS, IF YOU HAVE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS AFTER THE
5:35:54PM PRESENTATION, PLEASE, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
5:35:56PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, THE HOUSING BUDGET --
5:36:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO PUT THIS UP ON
5:36:07PM THE SCREEN.
5:36:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I CAN.
5:36:10PM MY CONCERN WAS THAT IT WAS TOO SMALL.
5:36:13PM IF I CAN GET THE WOLF UP, PLEASE.
5:36:16PM I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT AS LARGE AS POSSIBLE AND MOVE DOWN.
5:36:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:36:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THE FIRST TWO UNDER PARKS AND REC?
5:36:37PM IT SAYS SULPHUR SPRINGS, BUT IT LOOKS -- ONE IS PO AND ONE
5:36:42PM IS PA.
5:36:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APOLOGIZE.
5:36:46PM IT DIDN'T PRINT CORRECTLY.
5:36:47PM PERHAPS USER ERROR.
5:36:49PM YOU HAVE TWO THINGS GOING ON.
5:36:50PM SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL AND THEN YOU GOT THE SULPHUR SPRINGS
5:36:53PM PARKS IMPROVEMENTS.
5:36:54PM THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND ITEM IS.
5:36:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THAT INCLUDES FROM MY UNDERSTANDING --
5:36:59PM AND MS. WYNN MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD MORE TO IT -- THAT
5:37:02PM INCLUDES THE BRIDGE FOR OVER THE MANATEE SPACE.
5:37:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT I DO NOT KNOW.
5:37:09PM PERHAPS ADMINISTRATOR WYNN.
5:37:22PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
5:37:25PM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
5:37:26PM THAT DOES INCLUDE THAT BRIDGE THROUGHOUT THAT SPACE --
5:37:30PM INCLUDE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
5:37:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
5:37:33PM WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
5:37:34PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE'LL PROVIDE A REVISED HANDOUT WITH
5:37:39PM COMPLETE DESCRIPTIONS.
5:37:40PM I APOLOGIZE.
5:37:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE SOMETHING I SENT OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES
5:37:45PM DURING THIS TIME.
5:37:47PM YOU TWO ALREADY HAVE COPIES, I WAS TOLD.
5:37:49PM I HAPPEN TO GO OUT, SEVERAL OF YOU KNOW THAT THE GREEN
5:38:05PM ARTERY, THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SEGMENTS D AND E HAS A GAP IN
5:38:09PM BETWEEN.
5:38:10PM I WAS ABLE TO GO OUT WITH PARKS AND TAKE A LOOK.
5:38:15PM MS. SCHARF HAS A GREAT LITTLE MAP FOR US WHERE I WAS ABLE TO
5:38:19PM GO OUT WITH PARKS.
5:38:22PM ZOOM OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU COULD.
5:38:26PM IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS THAT I JUST PUT ON THE OVERHEAD,
5:38:31PM GREEN ARTERY SEGMENT E ENDS AT FLORIDA AND BIRD.
5:38:34PM GREEN ARTERY SEGMENT D STARTS AT NEBRASKA AND VAN DYKE.
5:38:39PM BASICALLY, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
5:38:43PM WE HAVE, AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE YELLOW LINE, THAT'S WHAT WE
5:38:48PM ALREADY HAVE.
5:38:49PM BUT WHAT DOESN'T CONNECT IS PART OF RIVER TOWER PARK.
5:38:53PM I HAPPENED TO GO OUT AND ASK ONE OF THE PARKS SPOKE TO MEET
5:38:59PM US OUT THERE.
5:39:00PM TOLD US ABOUT THE BRIDGE BEING DONE.
5:39:03PM IT WILL BE FIXED BUT IT IS NOT RIGHT NOW.
5:39:05PM THE REST OF THAT IS KIND OF CLOSED OFF.
5:39:07PM WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THE GREEN ARTERY WITH THE
5:39:10PM BOARDWALK THAT GOES UNDER 275.
5:39:15PM CAN YOU SHOW THE FIRST AND LAST IMAGES?
5:39:21PM THE MAPS.
5:39:23PM YEAH.
5:39:24PM SO WE HAVE ONE POSSIBILITY THAT CAN CONNECT THOSE.
5:39:29PM CONTRACTOR CAME OUT AND GAVE US A QUOTE FOR $60,000.
5:39:32PM AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER VISUAL THAT FOR 116,000 WE CAN DO A
5:39:39PM LOOP AROUND THE WHOLE PARK.
5:39:41PM I REALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE IN THE THREE TO FOUR
5:39:44PM HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR RANGE.
5:39:46PM I THOUGHT THIS WAS SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND MONEY
5:39:49PM OVER THE YEARS TO DO.
5:39:50PM BECAUSE OF THE CHEAPNESS, I WORKED WITH MS. KOPESKY AND, OF
5:39:54PM COURSE, MR. ROGERO AND WERE ABLE TO FIND SOME FUNDING THAT
5:39:59PM EXISTS.
5:40:00PM I KNOW MR. ROGERO CAN TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHERE
5:40:03PM THAT FUNDING COMES FROM, THAT IF WE CHOSE TO DO THIS, THAT
5:40:06PM WE TONIGHT COULD GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS IN MOTION.
5:40:10PM MR. ROGERO, WHERE WOULD THAT FUNDING COME FROM?
5:40:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
5:40:15PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
5:40:17PM IT'S FROM AN EXISTING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT HAS
5:40:20PM $400,000 BUDGETED.
5:40:23PM IT IS PROJECT NUMBER 1002427, SEAWALLS AND NATURAL SYSTEMS.
5:40:28PM I CAN PUT THAT ON THE WOLF.
5:40:31PM NO OBLIGATIONS TO DATE WITH A BALANCE OF $400,000, SO WE CAN
5:40:40PM EASILY ACCOMMODATE THAT QUOTE THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER,
5:40:44PM MA'AM.
5:40:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WOULD ENABLE THE CONNECTION OF THE TWO
5:40:48PM SEGMENTS THAT WE WANT, THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN FOR, THAT
5:40:51PM F.D.O.T. HAS HELPED THE CITY FUND AND IT WILL CONNECT.
5:40:55PM IT WILL ALSO GIVE SULPHUR SPRINGS IN THIS BUDGET THAT IS
5:40:58PM TANGIBLE, THAT THEY CAN LOOK FORWARD TO.
5:41:01PM SO I THINK THAT IS A REAL WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
5:41:05PM I WANT TO THANK PARK STAFF, FINANCE STAFF, EVERYONE.
5:41:08PM AGAIN, I HAD NO IDEA THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
5:41:11PM ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING SO CHEAPLY.
5:41:13PM SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL INVOLVED.
5:41:16PM I'M HOPING THAT COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT ME IN THIS ITEM.
5:41:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:41:26PM I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
5:41:27PM WHEN I SAW THE MEMO COME OUT, I WAS SKEPTICAL BECAUSE I
5:41:30PM WANTED TO SEE.
5:41:31PM NOW THAT I HAVE THE IMAGE IN FRONT OF ME, I THINK IT'S
5:41:34PM WONDERFUL.
5:41:35PM WHY?
5:41:35PM BECAUSE NOW THAT IT IS CONNECTED, IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO
5:41:38PM EXPLORE THE PARK.
5:41:39PM I'VE BEEN TO THAT PARK I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES.
5:41:42PM I EVEN MADE A SHORT FILM SHOWCASING THE TOWER PARK AND
5:41:47PM KNOWING THAT IT COULD BE A SEAMLESS CONNECTION BY A FOOT
5:41:51PM PATH OR BIKE PATH, PEOPLE WILL RECOGNIZE IT FOR WHAT IT IS,
5:41:57PM NOT JUST PASSING BY AND SEEING A WATER TOWER.
5:42:00PM I MENTIONED IN ANOTHER MEETING HOW IT USED TO BE A DRIVE-IN
5:42:03PM AND HOW BEING ON THE TAMPA THEATRE BOARD, I MENTIONED TO
5:42:06PM THEM BECAUSE THEY WILL BE DOING RENOVATIONS, WHY DON'T YOU
5:42:09PM DO MOVIES IN THE PARK LIKE AT CURTIS HIXON, DO IT HERE.
5:42:14PM NOT JUST TO WATCH THE MOVIE AND ENJOY IT, BUT I WANT PEOPLE
5:42:19PM TO TALK ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS.
5:42:20PM WHEN I WAS A KID, MY DAD AND I WOULD GO DOWNTOWN AND STOP AT
5:42:24PM ONE PLACE.
5:42:25PM NOW EVERYBODY COMES DOWNTOWN BECAUSE IT HAS GROWN SO MUCH
5:42:28PM AND WE HAVE THE RIVERWALK AND ALL THESE THINGS.
5:42:30PM WHEN I WAS A KID, HISTORIC HYDE PARK ISN'T LIKE IT IS TODAY.
5:42:34PM PEOPLE GOT TOGETHER, PRESERVING THE HOUSES, RESTORING.
5:42:37PM SAME WITH TAMPA HEIGHTS.
5:42:39PM I CAN GO ON AND ON.
5:42:40PM WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS.
5:42:42PM A LONG TIME AGO, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, A GENTLEMAN ASKED ME, IF
5:42:46PM YOU COULD INVEST IN TAMPA, WHERE WOULD YOU INVEST?
5:42:48PM WHERE SHOULD I BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY?
5:42:50PM I GO, SULPHUR SPRINGS.
5:42:52PM THE HISTORIC NATURE OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.
5:42:55PM ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS I MENTIONED, THE HISTORY HAS SOLD
5:42:58PM ITSELF.
5:42:59PM YBOR CITY, THE RESTORATION OF THE HISTORY.
5:43:01PM SULPHUR SPRINGS, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
5:43:03PM YES, IT'S JUST A PATH OF ASPHALT, BUT IT CONNECTS FROM
5:43:08PM NEBRASKA TO FLORIDA.
5:43:09PM THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
5:43:11PM SULPHUR SPRINGS TOPIC BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO TALK AGAIN ON
5:43:15PM THIS, TALKED ABOUT WHAT YOU TALKED HERE, FRESH FOOD
5:43:23PM INITIATIVE.
5:43:23PM EAST TAMPA NEEDS GROCERY STORES.
5:43:25PM SULPHUR SPRINGS NEEDS GROCERY STORES.
5:43:27PM MAYBE IT'S NOT A PUBLIX, BUT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AND
5:43:31PM RESEARCHING THE LAST FEW WEEKS, WHAT OTHER SMALLER GROCERS,
5:43:35PM NOT A SPROUT BECAUSE WE KNOW THE BIG CHAINS IN TAMPA, BUT
5:43:40PM THERE ARE OTHER BRANDS NOT IN THE TAMPA AREA.
5:43:44PM I STARTED GETTING PHONE NUMBERS TO CALL THE CORPORATE OFFICE
5:43:47PM AND SAY, HEY, I KNOW YOU MIGHT BE -- I'M NOT GOING TO TELL
5:43:51PM YOU THE NAMES.
5:43:52PM HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT EXPANDING TO THE TAMPA MARKET?
5:43:55PM EAST TAMPA AND SULPHUR SPRINGS?
5:43:56PM HEY, COME TO TAMPA.
5:43:58PM I'LL GIVE YOU A TOUR.
5:43:59PM I'LL SHOW YOU AROUND AND SHOW YOU THE OPPORTUNITY.
5:44:03PM SULPHUR SPRINGS WAS VIBRANT.
5:44:06PM FLORIDA AVENUE, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS A VERY BUSY COMMERCIAL
5:44:09PM CORRIDOR, AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK.
5:44:12PM RESIDENTS ASK US ABOUT INVESTING IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
5:44:14PM THE INVESTMENTS MADE HERE, POOL, PARK IMPROVEMENTS, ALL
5:44:19PM THIS, THEY ARE GREAT BUT IT DESERVES A WHOLE LOT MORE.
5:44:21PM I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
5:44:23PM WE NEED TO TALK SULPHUR SPRINGS LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING
5:44:27PM DOWNTOWN THE LAST TWO DECADES AND WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED
5:44:29PM WITH THAT.
5:44:30PM THANKS.
5:44:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
5:44:33PM MR. MANISCALCO GOT ME GOING ON THIS THING.
5:44:36PM BACK IN 1974, VERY FEW CARS THAT HAD AIR CONDITIONING.
5:44:41PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT YBOR CITY, DISRUPTIVE DEMISE.
5:44:46PM LOOK AT DOWNTOWN, IT WAS TERRIBLY GONE.
5:44:48PM WHEN YOU MAKE A STREET TURN ON ANY STREETCAR, DIDN'T HAVE TO
5:44:52PM LOOK FOR ANY CAR COMING BECAUSE THERE WERE NO CARS HARDLY
5:44:56PM DOWNTOWN.
5:44:56PM NO ONE LIVING IN DOWNTOWN WHEN IT WAS A VIBRANT PLACE IN THE
5:44:59PM CITY.
5:45:00PM LOWRY PARK ZOO, IT WAS THERE, BUT IT'S NOTHING LIKE IT IS
5:45:04PM NOW.
5:45:05PM NO AQUARIUM.
5:45:06PM THERE WAS NO TALL BUILDINGS.
5:45:08PM THERE WAS NO CHANNELSIDE.
5:45:10PM THERE WAS NO ARENA.
5:45:12PM THERE WAS NO CONVENTION CENTER.
5:45:14PM THERE WAS NOTHING.
5:45:16PM SO WE'VE COME ONE HELL OF A LONG WAY.
5:45:19PM YES, IT'S TAKEN YEARS, BUT DEVELOP, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
5:45:23PM HERE, WORK HERE, THEY HELPED MAKE THE CITY WHAT IT IS TODAY
5:45:27PM AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT GOT TO RECEIVE THE CREDIT.
5:45:29PM THEY GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY AND THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND
5:45:32PM THE PAST MAYORS RAN WITH IT.
5:45:35PM AND WE GOT SOMETHING DONE.
5:45:37PM VERY LITTLE IN TAMPA THAT WOULD ATTRACT ANY BUSINESS TO COME
5:45:40PM IN AND HAVE JOBS.
5:45:42PM INCLUDING THOSE IN TECHNOLOGY.
5:45:45PM IT'S ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING AREAS IN THE COUNTRY.
5:45:47PM NOW WE LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AND IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS SO RUN
5:45:51PM DOWN THAT YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING.
5:45:53PM AND NOW THE LAST PIECE, MS. HURTAK IS TALKING ABOUT, WHICH
5:45:58PM IS SULPHUR SPRINGS IS COMING ABOUT.
5:46:01PM HOWEVER THAT COMES AS A REPETITION OF DANGER.
5:46:04PM THE DANGER IS THIS.
5:46:05PM IT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN.
5:46:07PM ONCE YOU SELL A HOUSE FOR THREE, FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND
5:46:11PM DOLLARS, AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE THE SAME THING WRESTLING WITH
5:46:14PM ALL AROUND THE CITY WHICH IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
5:46:16PM BEWARE WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU'RE LIABLE TO GET IT.
5:46:19PM I'M GLAD THEY'LL GET IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL
5:46:22PM LEFT OUT.
5:46:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU HAVE THE
5:46:24PM MOTION?
5:46:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:46:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO ADD, THANK YOU TO
5:46:29PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR THE RESEARCH WE'VE ALL BEEN I THINK
5:46:32PM TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS AND THIS IS AN
5:46:35PM INEXPENSIVE, MEANINGFUL CHANGE THAT I'M SURE WILL BE
5:46:39PM WELCOMED BY THE COMMUNITY THERE.
5:46:40PM THANK YOU.
5:46:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I WILL WAIT ON MY MOTION UNTIL WE HAVE
5:46:49PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
5:46:52PM BUT IF YOU CAN HAND MR. SHELBY THAT ONE PARTICULAR SLIDE OF
5:46:58PM WHERE THE MONEY NEEDS TO GO FROM AND TO -- OR FROM AT LEAST,
5:47:02PM I WILL BE ABLE TO ADD THAT INTO MY MOTION.
5:47:05PM BUT I WILL WAIT UNTIL HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT.
5:47:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
5:47:11PM THE FORMALITY OF THE PROCESS, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW,
5:47:15PM MR. ROGERO HAS SOME IDEAS IN TERMS OF THE FORM OF A MOTION
5:47:19PM BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT HE TOLD COUNCIL, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS
5:47:22PM WOULD REQUIRE A BUDGET RESOLUTION NECESSARILY BECAUSE THE
5:47:27PM MONEY -- MR. ROGERO COULD SAY IT MUCH BETTER THAN I CAN.
5:47:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE MONEY IS APPROPRIATED IN THIS CAPITAL
5:47:34PM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
5:47:35PM THE DESCRIPTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT IS FLEXIBLE
5:47:37PM ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO PROCEED WITH THIS PROJECT AS SOON AS
5:47:41PM COUNCIL SAYS GO.
5:47:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
5:47:44PM THANK YOU.
5:47:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL THROW A SIDEBAR BECAUSE I THINK IT IS
5:47:49PM AN APPROPRIATE PLACE.
5:47:49PM A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS,
5:47:54PM ESPECIALLY THE DISTRICT FIVE ELECTION HAPPENING AND SOME OF
5:47:56PM THE STUFF ABOUT REPRESENTATION IN DISTRICT FIVE.
5:47:59PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD SOME OF THE THINGS
5:48:02PM THAT WE'VE DONE TO ENSURE THAT DISTRICT FIVE IS REPRESENTED
5:48:05PM IN THIS BUDGET.
5:48:06PM ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS AFTER THE UNFORTUNATE PASSING OF OUR
5:48:13PM COLLEAGUE GWEN HENDERSON, HER LEGISLATIVE AIDE WAS TIED TO
5:48:19PM HER AS AN ELECTED.
5:48:20PM WE IMMEDIATELY STEPPED FORWARD AND ENSURED HER CONTINUITY IN
5:48:25PM OFFICE, MS. DARLENE JOHNSON, SO THAT DISTRICT HAD SOMEBODY
5:48:29PM HERE PRESENT AT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ANSWERING THE PHONES,
5:48:33PM WORKING CONSTITUENCY ISSUES, AND WE TRANSFERRED HER JOB
5:48:37PM UNDERNEATH THE CHAIR, SO SHE'S BEEN A DIRECT REPORT TO ME
5:48:42PM THE ENTIRE TIME AND CONTINUES TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY.
5:48:45PM THROUGH THIS BUDGET PROCESS, SHE'S ALSO BEEN INVOLVED IN
5:48:48PM COORDINATING WITH CITY STAFF TO ENSURE DISTRICT FIVE
5:48:51PM REPRESENTATION AND THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET.
5:48:54PM I WANTED TO GIVE MAYBE DARLENE JOHNSON AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
5:48:57PM TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A BIG QUESTION OUT THERE
5:49:00PM BECAUSE OF THIS GLARING VACANCY OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
5:49:03PM YOU'VE BEEN DOING.
5:49:05PM I'M KIND OF SURPRISING HER ON THIS.
5:49:08PM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE'S DONE.
5:49:10PM BECAUSE I'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH MS. JOHNSON'S INVOLVEMENT
5:49:16PM WITH CITY STAFF AND WORKING ON DISTRICT 5 ISSUES AND MAKING
5:49:19PM SURE, ONE, THAT SHE BRINGS THOSE TO ME SO I'M AWARE OF THE
5:49:24PM IMPORTANT ISSUES SO WHEN I'M HAVING COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF
5:49:26PM THAT I'M BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT POSITION AS WELL AND
5:49:30PM SHE'S HAD HER OWN VOICE.
5:49:32PM MS. JOHNSON, START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
5:49:36PM >> THANK YOU.
5:49:36PM DARLENE JOHNSON, LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR DISTRICT 5.
5:49:41PM TO ME, I FEEL IT IS AN HONOR ACTUALLY TO APPEAR TO SHARE
5:49:48PM WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT I AM PLEASED AND I KNOW THE LATE
5:49:51PM COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON WOULD BE PLEASED THAT
5:49:54PM DISTRICT 5 IS BEING ENGAGED.
5:49:57PM DISTRICT 5 IS BEING CONSIDERED.
5:49:59PM DISTRICT 5 IS NOT BEING FORGOTTEN WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING
5:50:03PM DECISIONS FOR DISTRICT 5.
5:50:04PM FOR ME, THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS THANK YOU, THANK YOU,
5:50:08PM THANK YOU, AND LET'S NOT STOP UNTIL OCTOBER THE 28.
5:50:13PM LET'S CONTINUE THE COLLABORATION AND THE PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE
5:50:17PM DISTRICT 5 DESERVES TO BE HEARD.
5:50:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
5:50:22PM ANYTHING ELSE -- I KNOW YOU'VE HAD YOUR INPUT ON THE BUDGET
5:50:26PM ITEMS AND SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS AND ALL THAT.
5:50:29PM YOU'RE GOOD WITH EVERYTHING?
5:50:31PM >> YES, I AM.
5:50:32PM I WON'T BE AFRAID TO SAY IF I'M NOT.
5:50:35PM I WON'T BE AFRAID TO SHARE WHAT I THINK THE LATE
5:50:39PM COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON WOULD SAY.
5:50:42PM I WON'T BE AFRAID.
5:50:43PM AT THE MOMENT, THANK YOU.
5:50:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
5:50:46PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
5:50:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE QUICK THING, I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD THE
5:50:52PM SAME EXPERIENCE, BUT WE'VE SEEN YOU EVERYWHERE OUT IN THE
5:50:56PM COMMUNITY.
5:50:56PM YOU HAVE FOLLOWED UP ON THE SAME OR MORE SCHEDULE THAN YOU
5:51:01PM DID BEFORE.
5:51:02PM LISTENING TO PEOPLE, TALKING TO PEOPLE.
5:51:05PM I'M SURE COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON APPRECIATES IT FROM ABOVE.
5:51:08PM THANK YOU.
5:51:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. ROGERO.
5:51:15PM THANK YOU, DARLENE.
5:51:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
5:51:18PM IF I COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
5:51:20PM MOVING INTO THE HOUSING BUDGET AND A PRESENTATION ON THE
5:51:29PM PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR '26, ADMINISTRATOR FEELEY WILL BE
5:51:34PM SPEAKING TO THIS FROM THE SLIDE.
5:51:36PM YOU SEE THE FUNDING ITEMIZED AND TOTALED.
5:51:43PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
5:51:44PM ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
5:51:47PM OPPORTUNITY.
5:51:48PM THIS EVENING, THE HOUSING SLIDE YOU SEE, THE 14.6 MILLION OF
5:51:55PM GENERAL FUNDS I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT FOR A FEW
5:51:58PM MINUTES.
5:51:59PM AS YOU HAD THE HOUSING PRESENTATION WITH CRA THE OTHER DAY,
5:52:03PM YOU KNOW THAT TYPICALLY THERE ARE ROLLOVER FUNDS THAT ARE IN
5:52:07PM THAT.
5:52:08PM OF THE 14.6, WE HAVE 3.8 -- WELL, FIRST, THAT HAS THE
5:52:16PM 2 MILLION IN IT THAT YOU JUST APPROPRIATED THAT WE'RE
5:52:19PM WORKING ON THE PROGRAM FOR HURRICANE RECOVERY.
5:52:22PM 14.6 MINUS THE 2 PUTS US AT 12.6.
5:52:25PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE 3.8 THAT IS PENDING OR PLANNED
5:52:31PM THAT IS IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
5:52:33PM AND WE HAVE 4.3 THAT IS ENCUMBERED.
5:52:38PM BUT NOT YET EXPENDED.
5:52:41PM SO WHAT WE ARE LEFT WITH FOR FISCAL YEAR '26 IN TERMS OF THE
5:52:45PM HPF IS 6.5 MILLION.
5:52:47PM AND THAT TYPICALLY FUNDS OUR RENTAL AND MOVING ASSISTANCE
5:52:53PM PROGRAM.
5:52:53PM IT FUNDS DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE THAT IS THAT 80 TO 140
5:52:57PM BECAUSE I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE THAT IN THE FOLLOWING
5:53:01PM LINES, THE FEDERAL FUNDS AND THE SHIP FUNDS ARE AT 80 AND
5:53:05PM BELOW.
5:53:05PM AND THEN ALSO, SO RMAP, DPA, OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB, ARE WHAT
5:53:15PM WE NOW CALL HOMEOWNER REPAIR AND REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
5:53:18PM AND THEN KIND OF OUR FUNDS THAT WE USE TO STRATEGICALLY
5:53:23PM PARTNER OUTSIDE OF TYPICAL GRANT FUNDS.
5:53:25PM SO THAT WOULD BE 6.5 IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT FOR
5:53:30PM NEXT YEAR.
5:53:31PM I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WHILE THIS NUMBER INCLUDES THE
5:53:35PM ROLLOVER THAT I AM UP FRONT WITH YOU AS TO WHERE WE STAND ON
5:53:38PM THE PROGRAMMING AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THAT BUCKET SO YOU
5:53:41PM DON'T COME BACK TO ME AND SAY, HEY, WHERE IS THE 14.6.
5:53:47PM I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT IS IN OUR COFFERS AND WHAT'S
5:53:50PM COMMITTED.
5:53:51PM RIGHT NOW, WITH THAT, THERE IS A TOTAL WITH THE FEDERAL
5:53:56PM FUNDS, STATE FUNDS, AND THEN THE CRA FUNDS THAT YOU ACTING
5:54:00PM AS THE CRA BOARD HAS PUT THE 30 PERCENT IN RIGHT AT 54
5:54:05PM MILLION.
5:54:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
5:54:07PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
5:54:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
5:54:10PM MS. FEELEY, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
5:54:13PM I ALWAYS THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK
5:54:16PM THAT YOU'VE DONE, MA'AM.
5:54:18PM YOU MENTIONED THE FLOODING ASSISTANCE AND THE FIRST ROUND OF
5:54:21PM FUNDS THAT WE GOT FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND NOW WHAT
5:54:25PM YOU'RE DOING WITH ROUND TWO.
5:54:26PM AGAIN, WE'RE THE ONLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT DID THAT.
5:54:30PM AND THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
5:54:32PM YOU LED THAT EFFORT FROM THE ADMINISTRATIONS.
5:54:36PM AGAIN, THANK YOU.
5:54:38PM YOU'RE A WONDERFUL PUBLIC SERVANT.
5:54:39PM WE HAD TALKED BEFORE TODAY.
5:54:41PM I HAD MENTIONED IT WAS PART OF MY MOTION.
5:54:43PM I CITE THIS NOW SO I DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT LATER.
5:54:46PM I THINK MUCH OF COUNCIL HAS BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS PORTICO
5:54:50PM RETURNING CITIZENS HOUSING EFFORT.
5:54:52PM WE TALKED ABOUT SECURING, I THINK ABOUT HUNDRED THOUSAND
5:54:55PM DOLLARS FROM THE HOUSING FUND.
5:54:57PM THAT IS MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE AND READY TO GO FOR THAT,
5:55:00PM CORRECT?
5:55:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THERE ARE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS WITHIN THE HPF
5:55:04PM THAT CAN SUPPORT THAT, YES.
5:55:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
5:55:08PM HOW WOULD I FINALIZE THAT?
5:55:09PM DO YOU NEED A MOTION OF COUNCIL?
5:55:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT WOULD COME FROM DENNIS OR MR.
5:55:16PM PERRY, CORRECT?
5:55:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: A MOTION WOULD NOT BE INAPPROPRIATE JUST TO
5:55:25PM CODIFY IT AND THEN WE CAN TAKE AN ACTION IF IT REQUIRES LIKE
5:55:28PM A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION.
5:55:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: PURSUANT TO THE FINE EXAMPLE OF COUNCILWOMAN
5:55:32PM HURTAK, I WILL WAIT UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT AS YOU'RE SO
5:55:35PM COURTEOUS FOR THAT.
5:55:37PM I PLAN ON MAKING THAT MOTION.
5:55:39PM THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS WORKING WITH US.
5:55:41PM YOU ARE A DELIGHT.
5:55:41PM THANK YOU.
5:55:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:55:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THAT.
5:55:46PM THEY DO PHENOMENAL WORK.
5:55:47PM REALLY CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT -- I'VE TAKEN THE TOUR, TOO.
5:55:51PM CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH THAT SPACE.
5:55:54PM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA, AGAIN, THAT I WANT TO THANK
5:56:00PM YOU.
5:56:01PM YOU JUST JUMPED UP IMMEDIATELY TO BRING THAT 3.8 MILLION, TO
5:56:06PM REPURPOSE THOSE FUNDS.
5:56:08PM I THINK THAT WAS AMAZING.
5:56:09PM NO OTHER COMMUNITY IS DOING THAT.
5:56:11PM THE ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION WE ADDED, NO ONE IS DOING THAT.
5:56:14PM I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE R MAP FUNDING BECAUSE NO ONE IS
5:56:18PM DOING THAT.
5:56:18PM LIKE, THIS CITY IS THE ONE THAT'S DOING ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
5:56:22PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
5:56:25PM WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE, WHAT IS THE BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THE R
5:56:28PM MAP PROGRAM, YOU KNEW I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR THE R MAP
5:56:34PM PROGRAM FOR THIS YEAR.
5:56:37PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT NOW, AND I HAVE NOT MET WITH THE TEAM
5:56:39PM TO FINALIZE THESE NUMBERS BUT I'LL GIVE YOU WHAT IS
5:56:42PM ESTIMATED IN THE BUCKETS FOR EACH OF THE PROGRAMS.
5:56:45PM RIGHT NOW FOR R MAP, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $3 MILLION.
5:56:50PM FOR HRRP, WHICH IS THE HOMEOWNER REPAIR AND REHABILITATION,
5:56:58PM THAT IS 1,050,000.
5:57:05PM RIGHT NOW THAT INCLUDES A PIPELINE OF 10 AT 100,000.
5:57:10PM ALWAYS SOMETIMES WE HAVE APPLICANTS THAT NEED LESS, SO THAT
5:57:15PM FLUCTUATES.
5:57:15PM AND WE CAN ALSO SOMETIMES USE GRANT FUNDING TOWARDS SOME OF
5:57:19PM THAT AS WELL, BUT THESE ARE HPF FUNDS.
5:57:22PM DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IS 1.25 MILLION.
5:57:25PM AND THAT WOULD BE 30 AT THE AVERAGE OF 42,000.
5:57:32PM AS MENTIONED -- IT WAS IN ANOTHER PRESENTATION I WAS DOING
5:57:36PM -- A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE STACKING THAT WITH CRA FUNDS AND
5:57:40PM GETTING DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE SOMETIMES UP TO $100,000.
5:57:44PM IT ALL DEPENDS WHERE THE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED.
5:57:47PM IF THEY ARE CRA ELIGIBLE.
5:57:50PM AND THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE US ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR
5:57:56PM THAT KIND OF DISCRETIONARY, IF WE NEEDED TO JUMP IN AND WORK
5:58:01PM ON A PROJECT OR LOOK AT SOME PROJECTS AND MONITORING.
5:58:07PM THAT ALSO HAS COME UP.
5:58:09PM WHENEVER WE PUT THESE UNITS INTO AFFORDABILITY PERIODS, 30
5:58:14PM YEARS, 50 YEARS, FUNLAN, THE RIBBON CUTTING IS TOMORROW.
5:58:21PM 99 YEARS OF AFFORDABILITY ON THAT PROJECT.
5:58:24PM WE DO DO MONITORING TO ENSURE THAT THE UNITS ARE MAINTAINING
5:58:28PM THE INCOME AFFORDABILITY AND ALSO THE QUALITY OF THOSE
5:58:33PM UNITS.
5:58:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THAT RECENTLY AT THE
5:58:36PM CRA MEETING AND BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC.
5:58:38PM WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE ISN'T DOING THAT ANYMORE?
5:58:41PM WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY AREN'T KEEPING THE RESTRICTION?
5:58:47PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEN WE WOULD GO AFTER THOSE UNITS AND/OR
5:58:50PM OUR FUNDS TYPICALLY.
5:58:52PM IT DEPENDS.
5:58:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WOULD GET THE MONEY BACK.
5:58:54PM OKAY.
5:58:55PM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AGAIN.
5:58:58PM THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING.
5:59:02PM WE REALLY ARE THE COMMUNITY.
5:59:03PM OUR BUDGET IS OUR VALUES.
5:59:05PM OUR VALUES, WE ARE SAYING THAT HOUSING IS IMPORTANT, AND WE
5:59:09PM ARE CONTINUING TO SAY HOUSING IS IMPORTANT AND I WANT TO SAY
5:59:12PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
5:59:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEAR AFTER YEAR, YOU AND THE OPERATION
5:59:17PM YOU MANAGE AND HAVE DONE, SPECTACULAR JOB FOR THE CITIZENS
5:59:21PM THAT NEED IT.
5:59:22PM HOWEVER, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A LARGE SUM OF MONEY WHEN YOU
5:59:25PM LOOK AT IT, WHEN YOU APPLY IT TO WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, IT
5:59:29PM DOESN'T SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS.
5:59:31PM THERE'S WHAT WE HAVE YEAR AFTER YEAR, REOCCURRING OF THE
5:59:35PM SAME PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD, MAYBE A LITTLE LESSER.
5:59:38PM BUT THIS MONEY IS A BIG NUMBER, REALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT
5:59:42PM AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH IT, IT WILL TAKE CARE OF A FEW
5:59:46PM PERCENTAGE POINTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH
5:59:48PM WHAT WE HAVE.
5:59:49PM IT DOESN'T SOLVE 100% OF EVERYTHING.
5:59:51PM AGAIN, THAT'S HOW LIFE IS, WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHAT WE DO,
5:59:55PM IT IS SPECTACULAR.
5:59:56PM I WOULD APPRECIATE LETTING YOU KNOW.
5:59:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:00:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:00:01PM I DON'T THINK WE EVER INVESTED THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO
6:00:05PM HOUSING.
6:00:05PM I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WOULD TALK ABOUT THE MAYOR'S
6:00:08PM CHALLENGE FUND AND HOW SHE WAS ABLE TO BUY HER HOME, WHICH
6:00:12PM THAT CREATED ESSENTIALLY GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
6:00:16PM I'M GLAD TO SEE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
6:00:18PM FIRST THAT WE OFFER RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
6:00:20PM AT THE SAME TIME, THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IS SO CRITICAL
6:00:24PM BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO HELP PEOPLE GET ON THAT PATH TO THE
6:00:28PM AMERICAN DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP AND GET OUT OF THAT
6:00:31PM PERPETUAL CYCLE OF RENTAL BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE
6:00:37PM $500 IN AN EMERGENCY FUND.
6:00:39PM LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
6:00:41PM THEY ARE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN RENT BUT
6:00:46PM THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR A MORTGAGE.
6:00:48PM THIS ALLOWS THEM TO GET THAT BIG -- BECAUSE THE DOWN PAYMENT
6:00:51PM COULD BE 20 GRAND, CLOSING COST 30, 40, WE DON'T KNOW.
6:00:55PM EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE AREA BUT WE'RE
6:00:58PM GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF RENTING AND GETTING THEM INTO HOME
6:01:01PM OWNERSHIP.
6:01:02PM AGAIN, THESE NUMBERS ARE BIG.
6:01:04PM TOTAL FUND OF $54 MILLION, COUNTING THE CRA.
6:01:07PM WE ARE DOING OUR PART IN THE CAPACITY THAT WE ARE ABLE TO.
6:01:12PM I'M GLAD TO SEE THESE INVESTMENTS.
6:01:13PM THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS I GET, I MENTIONED IT THE OTHER DAY,
6:01:16PM PLEASE PAVE THE ROADS AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT HOUSING.
6:01:20PM WE'RE MAKING A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN IT.
6:01:23PM I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT.
6:01:27PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WANT TO CLOSE BY SAYING IN PARTNERSHIP
6:01:30PM WITH DENNIS ROGERO AND, OF COURSE, WITH THE WHOLE
6:01:33PM ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM, WE ARE WORKING ALSO, AS WE KNOW, THE
6:01:36PM COUNTY DID RECEIVE 709 MILLION IN CDBGR, WHICH IS CDBG FUNDS
6:01:43PM FOR DISASTER RELIEF, AND THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO SPEND A
6:01:47PM PORTION OF THAT ON HOUSING.
6:01:48PM THOSE FUNDS CAN BE SPENT IN THE CITY.
6:01:50PM AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH SHERYL HOWE AND HOUSING
6:01:55PM OVER THERE TO TRY TO AGAIN INCREASE THIS NUMBER AND DO
6:01:57PM WHATEVER WE CAN TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR
6:02:00PM PARTNERSHIPS AND ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO
6:02:03PM INCREASE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IN THE CITY.
6:02:05PM THANK YOU.
6:02:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. FEELEY.
6:02:09PM MR. ROGERO.
6:02:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
6:02:17PM I APPRECIATE ADMINISTRATOR FEELEY MENTIONING THE CDBG-DR
6:02:22PM RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT OFFICE AT
6:02:25PM THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND WE'LL BE DISCUSSING WITH THE COUNTY
6:02:28PM VERY, VERY SHORTLY WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.
6:02:31PM MEANING THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITY'S PLAN HAS BEEN
6:02:35PM APPROVED.
6:02:36PM IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP AGAIN, PLEASE.
6:02:40PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, 6, AND 7, THEY ALL RELATE TO THE
6:02:46PM SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND.
6:02:48PM WE COMBINED THEM ON HERE AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF HAS SOME
6:02:52PM WORDS AND INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL.
6:02:59PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
6:03:00PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
6:03:01PM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
6:03:03PM GOOD EVENING TO OUR PUBLIC.
6:03:04PM OUR SECOND BUDGET HEARING.
6:03:05PM THIS IS A CONTINUAL HONING PROCESS.
6:03:10PM I WANT TO THANK MS. KOPESKY AND THE BUDGET OFFICE FOR
6:03:13PM CONTINUING TO WORK ON THESE REQUESTS.
6:03:15PM I WOULD SAY ABOUT 50% OF THEM ARE NEW REQUESTS.
6:03:19PM AS COUNCIL GAVE GUIDANCE LAST HEARING TO TRY AND LOOK FOR
6:03:23PM THE STRATEGIC ACTIONABILITY COMPARED TO WHAT WAS IN THE
6:03:27PM RECOMMENDED BUDGET, WE'VE BEEN CONTINUALLY CODING THESE
6:03:30PM ITEMS BASED ON SEVERAL FACTORS.
6:03:33PM AGAIN, ONE, LOOKING AT THINGS THAT FIT OUR ARTS AND CULTURE,
6:03:39PM FIT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
6:03:40PM FIT OTHER GAPS BETWEEN WHAT THE PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS ARE IN
6:03:46PM THE COMMUNITY AND SOME THINGS DIVERTED BY OTHER AGENCIES OR
6:03:50PM OTHER FOLKS SHUTTING DOWN FUNDS.
6:03:52PM AND I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE.
6:03:54PM MY POINT TO SAYING THAT IS THAT LISTENING TO THE DISTRICT
6:03:58PM OFFICES ABOUT WHERE THEIR PRIORITIES ARE, I THINK WE LANDED
6:04:01PM ON A LOT OF THOSE STRATEGIC ACTIONABLE ITEMS.
6:04:04PM I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO THAT 1,
6:04:08PM 1.2 MILLION MARK.
6:04:10PM AGAIN, IF THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED AS IS, AND WE CONTINUE TO
6:04:14PM PROCESS THESE ITEMS, AGAIN, ANYTHING BELOW 25,000 DOES NOT
6:04:18PM REQUIRE AN AGREEMENT BASED ON OUR CODE, AND THOSE ARE VERY
6:04:22PM ACTIONABLE WITH A LOGIC MODEL BEING PRESENTED TO THE BUDGET
6:04:26PM OFFICE.
6:04:26PM AND THEN DIRECTED TOWARDS THOSE PORTFOLIOS THAT OFFER THAT
6:04:31PM LEVEL OF SERVICE.
6:04:32PM AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN CODED AND BUCKETED IN THAT
6:04:35PM FORMAT.
6:04:35PM BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT ALL OF COUNCIL HAS BEEN HEARD.
6:04:39PM THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN HEARD.
6:04:40PM I THINK, AGAIN, WE ARE VERY CLOSE ON A HIGH LEVEL OF MEETING
6:04:44PM THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
6:04:46PM WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE ONES THAT ARE PRESENTED THAT
6:04:49PM ARE NEW.
6:04:50PM SOME OF THEM ARE WELL ABOVE $25,000.
6:04:53PM SO THEY'LL NEED CONTINUAL VETTING.
6:04:55PM BUT I CAN TELL YOU BETWEEN THE HISTORICAL ONES THAT HAVE
6:04:59PM BEEN FUNDED AND SOME OF THE NEW ONES THAT, AGAIN, HAVE THAT
6:05:02PM STRATEGIC GAP CLOSING AND FINALLY, AGAIN, WORKING WITH THE
6:05:06PM COUNCIL DISTRICT OFFICES, I THINK BETWEEN ALL STAKEHOLDER
6:05:10PM GROUPS, WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO MEETING THAT RECOMMENDED BUDGET
6:05:13PM MARKER.
6:05:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:05:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:05:18PM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
6:05:19PM FIRST, I FORGOT TO MENTION, COUNCILMAN VIERA MENTIONED THE
6:05:22PM PORTICO.
6:05:23PM I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THAT.
6:05:25PM I THINK IT IS A NOBLE ENDEAVOR.
6:05:26PM BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.
6:05:29PM TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S TOMORROW, BECAUSE I SEE HERE
6:05:32PM SPECIFICALLY ITEMS THAT ALIGN WITH THE SPECIFIC GOALS OF THE
6:05:35PM CITY.
6:05:35PM SO THAT'S THE THEME OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
6:05:39PM I SAW THAT IT WAS SUGGESTED.
6:05:41PM THIS WAS JUST A SUGGESTION.
6:05:43PM I SEE HERE LIKE NAACP, THEY WERE AT $100,000, ABOUT REDUCING
6:05:48PM THAT.
6:05:48PM I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT.
6:05:50PM I WANT THEM TO GET THEIR FULL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
6:05:52PM BECAUSE IT IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE YOUTH OF TOMORROW AND
6:05:55PM WHAT THEY DO.
6:05:56PM WE'RE INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE.
6:05:58PM WE'RE TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S TOMORROW.
6:06:00PM GOING BACK TO THAT.
6:06:01PM RETURNING CITIZENS, PEOPLE THAT HAVE PAID THEIR DEBT TO
6:06:05PM SOCIETY, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
6:06:07PM THEY NEED TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET.
6:06:09PM THEY NEED A HAND UP.
6:06:11PM THAT'S AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY TOMORROW.
6:06:14PM THE SKILL CENTER, AND THAT'S -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AMOUNT
6:06:17PM IS.
6:06:17PM I KNOW IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
6:06:19PM I HEARD SOME NUMBERS.
6:06:20PM I WAS THERE TO WATCH THE CONSTRUCTION.
6:06:22PM I TOURED IT BEFORE AND SAW WHAT IT WAS.
6:06:25PM I WAS THERE FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR WHAT IT IS.
6:06:28PM AGAIN, TRANSFORMING TAMPA'S TOMORROW.
6:06:30PM INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITY, IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED IT
6:06:33PM THE MOST THAT HAVE BEEN IGNORED.
6:06:35PM I WANT TO SEE -- AND THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HERE THAT
6:06:39PM WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
6:06:40PM BUT WE HAVE TO -- I THINK IT'S OUR DUTY TO SUPPORT THE
6:06:46PM ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE WE SEE THE GOOD THAT THEY DO.
6:06:49PM FOR ADULTS, MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THE YOUTH, AND THAT'S IT.
6:06:54PM IT'S A WIN-WIN.
6:06:56PM WHEN WE INVEST IN YOUNG PEOPLE, THEY LIVE, GROW, PLAY, AND
6:07:00PM STAY HERE AND THEY BECOME GOOD CITIZENS AND THEY JUST
6:07:04PM REINVEST IN THE TAMPA OF TOMORROW.
6:07:07PM THANKS.
6:07:08PM >>JOHN BENNETT: ALL THE NONPROFITS YOU MENTIONED, WE'RE PART
6:07:11PM OF THE STRATEGIC ACTIONABLE LIST THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT.
6:07:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:07:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS AT
6:07:20PM THE WORKSHOP AND THEN ALSO AT THE FIRST BUDGET HEARING.
6:07:23PM I RECOMMEND THAT WE HOLD THE LONGER DISCUSSION ON THIS TO A
6:07:28PM WORKSHOP AND PASS THE 1.2, JUST PASS THE BUDGET BUT LET'S
6:07:34PM GET INTO THE DETAIL LATER BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF BIGGER
6:07:37PM SUBSTANCE THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT AND WE CAN
6:07:39PM DISCUSS AND DEBATE THAT LATER.
6:07:41PM IF YOU SEE IN THE LIST THAT WAS CIRCULATED, I DID NOT KNOW
6:07:45PM THE LIST TODAY WOULD BE CIRCULATED.
6:07:47PM I KNOW THE LIST TWO WEEKS AGO WOULD BE CIRCULATED.
6:07:50PM I WAS NOT CONSULTED AT ALL ON WHAT I MIGHT WANT IN THERE.
6:07:54PM ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT AT THE WORKSHOP, HOWEVER MANY
6:07:56PM WEEKS AGO IT WAS, I RECOMMENDED THAT WE INDIVIDUALLY NOT
6:08:00PM ALLOCATE TO THE NONPROFITS.
6:08:03PM IN THE FIRST HEARING, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK ALSO TALKED
6:08:06PM ABOUT.
6:08:07PM WE NEVER TOOK A VOTE ON IT.
6:08:08PM BUT I NEVER KNEW THAT WE HAD DECIDED ON WHETHER WE SHOULD
6:08:12PM ALLOCATE OR NOT.
6:08:13PM I'M NOT TRYING TO UNDO ANYBODY'S ALLOCATION, I THINK WE NEED
6:08:18PM A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ON THE CONTENTS AT A LATER DATE.
6:08:21PM IF THERE WERE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS LEFT OUT, WE SHOULD HAVE
6:08:23PM THAT DISCUSSION.
6:08:24PM IF WE GO THROUGH IT TONIGHT, WE COULD SPEND AN HOUR OR MORE
6:08:29PM LIKE THE OTHER MEETINGS.
6:08:30PM INSTEAD, PASS THE BUDGET AND FOCUS ON THE BIGGER NUMBERS.
6:08:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I BELIEVE THAT IS THE ADMINISTRATION'S
6:08:35PM DESIRE AS WELL TO STAY FOCUSED -- BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY
6:08:40PM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SOME HEADWAY IN DOING SOME OF THE
6:08:43PM STRATEGIC SHIFTING OF THINGS THAT ARE MORE ALIGNED WITH THE
6:08:48PM BUSINESS PART OF THE CITY, SOME OF THESE FUNCTIONS.
6:08:52PM AM I PARAPHRASING YOUR POSITION CORRECTLY?
6:08:56PM >> YOU ARE.
6:08:57PM THANK YOU.
6:08:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT IS THEIR POSITION AS WELL.
6:09:00PM WE HAVE THIS 1.25 -- SEVEN FIGURES.
6:09:05PM >> 1 MILLION WAS RECOMMENDED. WHAT I'M SAYING IS GOING
6:09:08PM THROUGH WHAT I HEARD FEEDBACK ON, WE'RE RIGHT AROUND 1.2ISH.
6:09:13PM AND SOME OF THAT WOULD BE MOVED INTO PARTICULAR BUDGET
6:09:18PM PORTFOLIOS.
6:09:18PM SO THAT WOULD GET US BACK DOWN TO THE 1 MILLION.
6:09:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 1 MILLION ALONG WITH MOVING INTO THE
6:09:24PM FOLIOS WILL GET US TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO BY MOVING THIS
6:09:29PM BUDGET FORWARD TONIGHT.
6:09:31PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YEAH, WE ARE IN A VERY SAFE SPOT.
6:09:34PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT, HAPPY TO COME BACK AND HAVE A
6:09:38PM WORKSHOP AND HONE THE METHODOLOGY WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ON
6:09:42PM NONPROFITS.
6:09:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NOTHING COMPELLING TO SAY AT ALL.
6:09:50PM I'M JOKING.
6:09:51PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
6:09:53PM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON IN TERMS OF HAVING LIKE A
6:09:58PM WORKSHOP ON GOING OUT HERE FURTHER IN TERMS OF PROCEDURE SO
6:10:01PM WE CAN HAVE SOME MORE RHYTHM AND RHYME TO HOW WE DO THIS AND
6:10:04PM EVERYTHING.
6:10:05PM I DID IN MY REQUEST WHICH IS TAKING A LOOK AT INCREASING ON
6:10:09PM DISABILITIES, BECAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE VERY MUCH.
6:10:12PM WE DO THE PENGUIN PROJECT, WHICH IS WONDERFUL.
6:10:17PM THEATER AND ARTS FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES
6:10:19PM BY NORA PAINE WHO DOES A GREAT JOB.
6:10:23PM FORMER COUNCILMAN PAINE'S DAUGHTER-IN-LAW.
6:10:27PM NOW DEACON PAINE.
6:10:29PM SHE IS A WONDERFUL PERSON.
6:10:31PM IN TERMS OF OTHER FOLKS ASKING US FOR MONEY BECAUSE WE TALK
6:10:34PM ABOUT THE $4 MILLION, WE CAN DO WHAT NANCY REAGAN SAID AND
6:10:38PM JUST SAY NO.
6:10:38PM IF WE'RE NOT PROPOSING IT, THAT'S IT.
6:10:41PM WE CAN WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR AND THAT'S IT.
6:10:43PM NOBODY HERE IT WOULD APPEAR PROPOSING THIS. I'M GLAD WE'RE
6:10:49PM NOT FOLLOWING WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING WHICH IS TO ROLL BACK
6:10:52PM ON NONPROFITS.
6:10:53PM THESE ARE NONPROFITS THAT HELP PEOPLE DAY TO DAY.
6:10:56PM SOME OF THE GROUPS I CITED HERE, THE VETERANS HELPING
6:10:59PM VETERANS.
6:11:00PM THEY HELP OUT PEOPLE WHO IF THEY DON'T PAY THEIR UTILITY
6:11:03PM BILL OR RENT, THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR HOUSE AND THEY
6:11:05PM ARE VETERANS.
6:11:06PM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND DIFFERENT GROUPS LIKE THAT.
6:11:09PM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
6:11:11PM IT REFLECTS A MORAL PURPOSE.
6:11:13PM TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU, CHIEF BENNETT.
6:11:17PM TWO THINGS.
6:11:18PM NUMBER ONE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE DISABILITY AND
6:11:21PM VETERANS GROUPS, IN TERMS OF THE LIST YOU HAVE, THOSE ARE
6:11:26PM RIGHT NOW IN THE PROPOSED LIST AND THEY ARE WITHIN THE
6:11:28PM ALLOCATED BUDGET, CORRECT?
6:11:30PM I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM, CORRECT?
6:11:33PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THEY WOULD FIT INTO THE $1 MILLION SPACE AT
6:11:35PM THIS POINT.
6:11:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU MENTIONED TAKING CERTAIN ITEMS THAT SHOULD
6:11:39PM BE ELSEWHERE AND MOVING THEM IN PROPER PORTFOLIOS, WHAT HAVE
6:11:44PM YOU.
6:11:45PM YBOR CITY MUSEUM, THAT IS INCLUDED THERE, CORRECT, AT
6:11:48PM 100,000?
6:11:55PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ONE WE WOULD LOOK INTO
6:11:57PM THE ARTS AND CULTURE ASPECT.
6:11:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT WOULD BE INCLUDED?
6:12:01PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YES.
6:12:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IMPORTANT.
6:12:04PM THEY LOST THEIR FUNDING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND SUFFERED A
6:12:07PM LOT.
6:12:08PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
6:12:09PM AGAIN, IN TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC, MY REQUEST, I CUT DOWN
6:12:12PM ON THEM.
6:12:13PM YBOR CITY MUSEUM WAS CUT DOWN BY A THIRD.
6:12:16PM 150, DOWN TO 100 SO WE CAN FIT EVERYTHING AND BE
6:12:20PM RESPONSIBLE.
6:12:21PM MY REQUESTS ARE ABOUT THE SAME AS THEY WERE FROM LAST YEAR.
6:12:24PM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, OBVIOUSLY.
6:12:27PM GOSH, I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION BUT I FORGOT.
6:12:30PM I'LL COME BACK LATER.
6:12:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:12:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
6:12:34PM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GENERALNESS OF IT, BECAUSE I AGREE.
6:12:38PM I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP.
6:12:40PM IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO A MOTION ON THURSDAY FOR A
6:12:44PM WORKSHOP, I THOUGHT WE SHOULD DO ONE IN MAYBE FEBRUARY TO
6:12:48PM GIVE US TIME TO WORK ON IT.
6:12:49PM I THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON THE PROCESS, HOW PEOPLE ARE
6:12:54PM CHOSEN, THE GOAL, WHAT THE GOAL OF THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL
6:12:58PM ARE TO FOCUS ON THE TAMPA TOMORROW AND THEN PARAMETERS FOR
6:13:01PM HOW MUCH WE GIVE AND LIKE WHO WE GIVE IT TO.
6:13:05PM ARE WE GIVING TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY HAVE MILLIONS OF
6:13:08PM DOLLARS?
6:13:10PM JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT.
6:13:13PM JUST OVERALL HOW WE WANT TO DO IT.
6:13:16PM HOW LONG PEOPLE SHOULD GET THE MONEY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
6:13:19PM I'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THE DESIRE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE
6:13:25PM TRAINING IN GRANT WRITING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
6:13:27PM I THINK THAT WILL BE A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION FOR
6:13:30PM FEBRUARY.
6:13:31PM I AGREE WITH OTHERS THAT WE SHOULD WORK, APPROVE -- I DID
6:13:38PM WANT TO SAY I REALLY DO LOVE THE IDEA OF THE WORKSHOP.
6:13:42PM I WANT TO THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT, AND YOUR TEAM, FOR DOING
6:13:46PM THE HEAVY LIFT OF ADDING THE CONTRACTS.
6:13:49PM THAT WAS A REALLY HEAVY LIFT GETTING EVERYBODY WHERE THEY
6:13:52PM NEED TO BE AND NOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STEP.
6:13:57PM THAT WAS A VERY BIG PART.
6:14:00PM APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT.
6:14:01PM AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE FURTHER CONVERSATION.
6:14:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AND MAYBE THIS IS
6:14:08PM MR. ROGERO'S QUESTION.
6:14:10PM RIGHT NOW, CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS TO ADDRESS ITEMS 5, 6, AND
6:14:14PM 7, IF WE TAKE NO ACTION AND PASS THE BUDGET WITHOUT
6:14:19PM ADDRESSING THIS, THIS WILL ACCOMMODATE THE WILL OF WHAT
6:14:22PM YOU'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL AND WHAT YOUR POSITION IS,
6:14:25PM CORRECT?
6:14:25PM WE DO NOT NEED TO DO ANYTHING.
6:14:28PM VERY GOOD.
6:14:29PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:14:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE APPROVE THIS IN THE BUDGET, THE
6:14:33PM QUESTION IS, ARE WE APPROVING ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT
6:14:36PM WERE PUT UNDERNEATH IT OR JUST THE TOTAL BUDGET AND WE'LL
6:14:39PM ALLOCATE LATER?
6:14:41PM >> THE LATTER.
6:14:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
6:14:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I SAW THE WORDS SPECIAL
6:14:48PM NEEDS INTERNSHIP, THAT'S FUNDED UNDER THIS, CORRECT?
6:14:52PM >>JOHN BENNETT: SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP IS FUNDED
6:14:54PM SEPARATELY IN THE BUDGET, JUST LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
6:14:57PM MOVING THINGS INTO THE DIFFERENT PORTFOLIOS, AND THAT WOULD
6:15:00PM BE THE UNIQUE ABILITY ASPECT OF BEING AN INTERN WITH THE
6:15:03PM CITY OF TAMPA AND THAT IS FUNDED IN THE REGULAR BUDGET.
6:15:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S ALL I NEED.
6:15:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL CLOSE THAT -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:15:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT
6:15:13PM LAST TIME BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK OUTSIDE OF HERE, I WANTED TO
6:15:16PM SAY THIS, I THINK ESPECIALLY BEFORE YOU LEAVE, YOU OUGHT TO
6:15:21PM FIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S IN A BUDGET THAT'S NOT GOING TO
6:15:23PM GET CUT.
6:15:25PM JUST LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO -- COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S STUFF,
6:15:31PM UNLESS ANOTHER DISABILITY ADVOCATE GETS ELECTED, NOBODY IS
6:15:34PM GOING TO KNOW AS MUCH AS YOU.
6:15:35PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT IN THERE.
6:15:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, WE HIT ON THIS IN THE FIRST PUBLIC
6:15:42PM HEARING.
6:15:42PM SO WE'RE APPROVING THE FISCAL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR FY '26 AND
6:15:50PM THEN AFTER WE LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, THEY HAVE OUR REQUEST AND
6:15:55PM THE CHIEF IS TELLING US AND OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER IS
6:15:59PM TELLING US THAT BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN AND BASED ON
6:16:03PM THE MONEY WE HAVE ALLOCATED IN THEIR PLAN TO SHIFT MONEY OUT
6:16:07PM OF WHAT PREVIOUSLY WAS KNOWN AS THE SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS INTO
6:16:11PM MORE STRATEGICALLY ALIGNED BUSINESS MODEL BUDGETS, THAT THEY
6:16:15PM ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THESE REQUESTS.
6:16:18PM IT'S NOT LINE FOR LINE, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR.
6:16:20PM IT IS CONCEPTUAL AND THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN
6:16:23PM ACCOMMODATE THESE REQUESTS, IF WE PASS THIS BUDGET TONIGHT
6:16:27PM AS IS, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUEST.
6:16:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE REQUEST WE AS CITY COUNCIL MADE, SOME OF
6:16:34PM THE ITEMS BE MOVED INTO REGULAR BUSINESS.
6:16:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE COMMITTING TO DO.
6:16:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
6:16:40PM THEN THEY WILL BE MEASURED.
6:16:42PM FOR ANYBODY WATCHING, SOMETIMES NONPROFITS CAN DO THINGS
6:16:45PM MORE EFFECTIVELY, COST-EFFECTIVELY THAN THE CITY CAN.
6:16:49PM SO WE OUTSOURCE.
6:16:51PM SOME OF THE OTHERS DON'T NECESSARILY FIT THAT.
6:16:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID WHEN I LEAVE, I HAVE
6:16:57PM TOLD MY DISABILITY COMMUNITY FRIENDS THAT I HEREBY DELEGATE
6:17:00PM THAT TO, THAT WONDERFUL BLEEDING HEART CATHOLIC WHO IS NOT
6:17:04PM HERE, GUIDO MANISCALCO.
6:17:06PM THE DISABILITY ISSUE.
6:17:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOBODY WILL BANG THAT DRUM LOUDER THAN
6:17:10PM YOU, MY FRIEND.
6:17:11PM >>JOHN BENNETT: ONE MORE FOOTNOTE TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
6:17:14PM POINT.
6:17:15PM AS PART OF THE WORKSHOP, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FORWARD TO
6:17:19PM COUNCIL IS SOME OF THE BACK-END PAPERWORK TO SEE THE
6:17:22PM ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESS, WHETHER YOU ARE BELOW 25 OR ABOVE
6:17:26PM 25, ABOVE 25 IS A FULL-BLOWN AGREEMENT, COMES TO COUNCIL,
6:17:29PM HAS THE SCOPE OF WORK, THE BOILERPLATE WRAPAROUND ABOUT
6:17:33PM PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, POTENTIAL AUDITS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
6:17:36PM BELOW 25 STILL GETS A LEVEL OF SCRUTINY FOR QUARTERLY
6:17:40PM TRANCHES AND IT DOES IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES FROM OTHER
6:17:45PM SOURCES THAT GOES WITH THE OUTPUTS AND OUTCOMES OF ALL OF
6:17:49PM THESE NONPROFITS.
6:17:50PM SO WE HAVE A HISTORY OF ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN THIS
6:17:53PM ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL PERIOD THAT MAYBE YOU'D WANT TO
6:17:55PM LOOK AT AHEAD OF THAT WORKSHOP TO HELP GET SOME ADDITIONAL
6:17:58PM GUIDANCE ON A FUTURE METHODOLOGY OF HONING THESE DOWN.
6:18:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
6:18:07PM MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH STAFF
6:18:11PM BEFOREHAND TO REALLY FLESH OUT SOME IDEAS SO WHEN WE GET TO
6:18:15PM THE WORKSHOP, WE'RE READY TO MAKE SOME ACTION.
6:18:17PM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
6:18:21PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
6:18:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
6:18:23PM WE ARE AT OUR MOTIONS NOW.
6:18:25PM PART ONE, FUNDING.
6:18:26PM MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INJECT SOMETHING?
6:18:38PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
6:18:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE STILL IN THE SUBSTANCE OF THE
6:18:40PM CITY'S PRESENTATION THAT WE INCORPORATE MOTIONS FROM PUBLIC
6:18:43PM HEARING NUMBER ONE.
6:18:44PM WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. ROGERO ON PART ONE FUNDING.
6:18:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
6:18:50PM IF I COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP AGAIN.
6:18:55PM YOU SEE IT HERE, THE PREVIOUS MOTION NUMBER ONE WAS THE
6:19:02PM APPROPRIATION OF THE PARKING OR A PORTION OF THE PARKING
6:19:05PM FUND, $1.35 MILLION FROM THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE TO
6:19:11PM ROUTE ONE.
6:19:11PM YOU SEE THE MOTION HERE.
6:19:12PM YOU SEE OUR SUGGESTED SOLUTION AT THE BOTTOM.
6:19:17PM WE'LL PREPARE AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION
6:19:20PM IN OCTOBER, MOVING THE FUNDING AS YOU SEE IN THE MOTION.
6:19:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS RESOLUTION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE NOT
6:19:27PM AT THIS MEETING BUT IN OCTOBER.
6:19:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
6:19:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU'RE GOOD WITH
6:19:33PM THAT?
6:19:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
6:19:35PM WHAT I'M PLANNING ON DOING LIKE I DID LAST YEAR IS KIND OF
6:19:38PM PUTTING EVERYTHING IN ONE THING SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD
6:19:42PM LIKE IN THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION AND THEY'LL BRING IT ALL
6:19:44PM TOGETHER.
6:19:44PM THE MOTION I'LL MAKE ABOUT MOVING THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE
6:19:47PM LOOP AT RIVER TOWER PARK WILL BE THE SAME THING.
6:19:50PM THE MONEY THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA IS GOING TO PUT TOWARD THE
6:19:53PM PORTICO, I THINK WE ALL PUT IT IN A BIG LAUNDRY LIST AND
6:19:57PM HE'LL COME FORWARD WITH A RESOLUTION.
6:19:59PM IS THAT CORRECT?
6:20:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
6:20:02PM AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE A TENTATIVE SUMMARY
6:20:05PM BASED ON COUNCIL'S MOTIONS AND REQUESTS PREVIOUSLY.
6:20:09PM OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE NEW ISSUES AND
6:20:12PM WE'LL REVISE THAT AND PRESENT TO COUNCIL A SUMMARY, AND IT
6:20:16PM WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION THAT YOU
6:20:19PM DESCRIBE.
6:20:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S LIKE WITCHCRAFT THAT YOU ANTICIPATE
6:20:21PM THIS.
6:20:22PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:20:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER
6:20:25PM HURTAK FOR HER LEADERSHIP ON THIS BECAUSE SHE SPEARHEADED
6:20:28PM THIS AND THE SUPPORT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.
6:20:29PM I DID A VIDEO FOR SOCIAL MEDIA THE OTHER DAY WITH ANOTHER
6:20:33PM GENTLEMAN ABOUT PROMOTING ROUTE ONE.
6:20:34PM IT'S GREAT.
6:20:35PM THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS ARE AMAZING.
6:20:38PM PEOPLE ARE USING IT.
6:20:40PM WE HAVE TO INVEST IN TRANSIT.
6:20:41PM IT'S A BIG CITY.
6:20:43PM NOT EVERYBODY WANTS A CAR.
6:20:44PM NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A CAR.
6:20:46PM I THINK THIS IS A GREAT CATALYST FOR FUTURE INVESTMENTS AND
6:20:50PM FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
6:20:52PM IT'S IMPORTANT -- SO MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE PUBLIC TRANSIT,
6:20:55PM MASS TRANSIT, YOU DON'T NEED A CAR, TAMPA IS NOT THAT CITY,
6:20:59PM BUT WE CAN BE THAT CITY AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO BEGIN.
6:21:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE GOING TO BE THAT CITY.
6:21:05PM WE'RE GOING TO MAKE TAMPA A TRANSIT-FRIENDLY PLACE.
6:21:08PM ANYTHING ELSE ON GROUP ONE?
6:21:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK CHANGING
6:21:15PM THIS FROM LAST YEAR, IF LAST YEAR WAS A TEST, THIS IS A
6:21:19PM DIFFERENT KIND OF TEST.
6:21:20PM I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD,
6:21:23PM ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE A NEWHART BOARD MEMBER WHO WILL
6:21:26PM ADVOCATE FOR FUNDING ON A PERMANENT BASIS.
6:21:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
6:21:30PM DATA MEANS SOMETHING.
6:21:32PM DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS.
6:21:34PM GOOD TO HAVE IT.
6:21:35PM YELLOW JACKETS.
6:21:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP AGAIN,
6:21:39PM PLEASE.
6:21:40PM HERE IS ITEM NUMBER 2, ACCELERATING THE YELLOW JACKET
6:21:45PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FROM FISCAL YEAR '28 TO FISCAL
6:21:48PM YEAR '27.
6:21:50PM YOU SEE THIS IS THE CURRENT ITERATION IN THE RECOMMENDED
6:21:55PM BUDGET.
6:21:56PM WE'VE GOT IT HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW THERE, THE 1.5 MILLION IN
6:21:59PM FISCAL YEAR 28.
6:22:01PM WE SUGGEST, BASED ON COUNCIL'S MOTION, THAT THIS NOW BECOME
6:22:04PM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT OF RECORD WITH THE 1.5
6:22:09PM MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR '27.
6:22:13PM I SHOULD ALSO STATE THAT NOT REFLECTED HERE IS AN OPERATING
6:22:17PM COMPONENT THAT I THINK THE DEPARTMENT HAS DISCUSSED WITH
6:22:20PM COUNCIL OF ACCELERATING SOME OPERATING EXPENSES, AND THAT IS
6:22:26PM THIS SLIDE HERE YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU.
6:22:30PM AS WE WAIT FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, 1.5 MILLION,
6:22:33PM YOU SEE THESE ACTIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENT INTENDS TO TAKE.
6:22:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE PUBLIC, SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT,
6:22:41PM THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT'S COMING UP, THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE
6:22:43PM BALL FIELD LIGHTING AND START THE DESIGN FOR THE DUGOUTS,
6:22:47PM SPRINKLER, CONCESSION, BATHROOM UPGRADES.
6:22:53PM THEY'LL BE ABLE TO START THE PROJECTS IN FY '27.
6:22:56PM THEY WILL BE READY TO GO.
6:23:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'VE BEEN THANKING PEOPLE ALL NIGHT.
6:23:03PM SINCE ROBIN LOCKETT IS IN THE FRONT ROW, BEEN HERE TIME
6:23:07PM AFTER TIME ADVOCATING FOR THE YELLOW JACKETS.
6:23:10PM AGAIN, AN AREA THAT'S BEEN IGNORED, WE ARE GOING TO BE
6:23:13PM PRIORITIZING THIS AND WELL DESERVED.
6:23:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
6:23:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS AN ADVOCATE.
6:23:20PM AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER INDICATION ABOUT THE REPRESENTATION AND
6:23:24PM ENSURING THE EQUITY AND THE VOICES ARE HEARD.
6:23:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:23:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
6:23:29PM I WANT TO ECHO THAT.
6:23:30PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
6:23:32PM ALSO, JUST TO KNOW THAT THIS IS ABOUT AS FAST AS WE CAN DO
6:23:37PM THIS BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE DESIGN.
6:23:41PM SO WE'RE PUTTING MONEY IN THIS CALENDAR, IN THIS FISCAL YEAR
6:23:44PM FOR THE DESIGN OF THESE THINGS, TO PREPARE FOR THE BUILDING
6:23:52PM OF THEM IN '27.
6:23:54PM MS. LOCKETT LOOKS CONFUSED.
6:23:58PM I'LL LET CHIEF OF STAFF ANSWER HER QUESTIONS.
6:24:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:24:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
6:24:03PM AGAIN, REGARDING THE YELLOW JACKETS, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF
6:24:07PM COACHING TWO LITTLE LEAGUE AREAS, WEST TAMPA AND YELLOW
6:24:11PM JACKETS HAD A COMPARABLE TEAM AND TALENT, BETTER THAN WHAT
6:24:14PM WE HAD.
6:24:15PM THEY JUST HAVE A GREAT SPIRIT.
6:24:19PM THEY HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM, AND NOW I THINK WE'VE GOT TO GIVE
6:24:23PM THEM THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE SAME MECHANISM TO GET TO THAT
6:24:26PM PLATEAU OF WHATEVER THEY WANT TO GO IN BASEBALL OR SPORTS.
6:24:31PM I'M ALL FOR THIS PROJECT.
6:24:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
6:24:33PM NOW WE GET TO --
6:24:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP.
6:24:44PM AS YOU SAID, MR. CHAIR, COUNCIL REQUESTED A BROADER PICTURE
6:24:51PM GOING BACK TO 2009 OF THE GENERAL FUND, UNASSIGNED FUND
6:24:56PM BALANCE.
6:24:56PM YOU SEE THAT HERE.
6:24:57PM FROM A HIGH IN FISCAL YEAR 2010 OF 37% DOWN TO THE LOWEST OF
6:25:04PM 23% FOLLOWING THE GREAT RECESSION.
6:25:07PM WE ANTICIPATE THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR BEING, AGAIN, AT THE
6:25:12PM 23% MARK.
6:25:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:25:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEP.
6:25:17PM MY COMPLIMENTS TO MAYOR PAM IORIO FOR LEAVING THE CITY AND
6:25:24PM LEAVING THE RESERVES AND BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF PUBLIC
6:25:28PM DOLLARS.
6:25:28PM YOU WERE THERE, MR. ROGERO IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
6:25:31PM SO YOU ARE PART OF THE TEAM.
6:25:32PM I KNOW THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT LAYOFFS IN THE CITY, AND WE'RE
6:25:36PM RECOVERING FROM THAT STILL TO THIS DAY.
6:25:39PM IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, HOW THE NUMBERS DROP,
6:25:42PM SPECIFICALLY IN 2014, 2016, WE'RE GETTING BACK UP AS THE
6:25:47PM BUDGET HAS GROWN.
6:25:48PM WHEN I GOT HERE TEN YEARS AGO, THE BUDGET WAS UNDER A
6:25:51PM BILLION DOLLARS.
6:25:52PM NOW WE'RE APPROACHING $2 BILLION.
6:25:54PM THE PERCENTAGES ARE GOING TO ADJUST.
6:25:56PM WE'RE IN A HEALTHIER POSITION.
6:25:57PM AGAIN, I'M GLAD THAT WE HAD THE LEADERSHIP WITH MAYOR IORIO
6:26:03PM WHO DOESN'T GET ENOUGH CREDIT FOR LEAVING US IN A HEALTHY
6:26:07PM FINANCIAL POSITION BECAUSE THE GREAT RECESSION WAS HORRIFIC
6:26:12PM AND 15 YEARS LATER, WE'RE STILL FEELING THE EFFECTS OF IT,
6:26:16PM BUT WE'RE GETTING BACK TO WHERE WE WERE.
6:26:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:26:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE BUT I WANT TO
6:26:23PM REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE GREAT RECESSION TECHNICALLY ENDED
6:26:27PM IN 2009.
6:26:28PM IT IS A MIRACLE THAT EVEN COMING OUT OF IT IN 2010, SHE
6:26:32PM CONTINUED TO SAVE MONEY.
6:26:36PM I WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION, CITY COUNCIL, WHEN I
6:26:39PM JOINED IN 2019, WE PUSHED REALLY HARD TO SAVE MONEY, AND
6:26:44PM THEN EVEN THROUGH COVID AND EVERYTHING, WE PUSHED TO SAVE
6:26:47PM MONEY AND THE ADMINISTRATION WORKED WITH US AND WE'VE BEEN
6:26:50PM ABLE TO SAVE THROUGHOUT.
6:26:51PM THE REASON WHY THE PERCENTAGE ARE HIGHER IN AND AROUND COVID
6:26:55PM IS BECAUSE OF GRANTS AND REFUNDS FROM THE FEDERAL
6:26:57PM GOVERNMENT.
6:26:58PM AS MR. ROGERO SAID LAST TIME, FORTUNATELY, UNFORTUNATELY,
6:27:02PM THE EXPECTATION OF THE BOND MARKET IS MORE UP TO 23% NOW.
6:27:06PM IDEALLY THIS WOULD BE LIKE A RAINY DAY FUND BUT IT'S REALLY
6:27:10PM NOT.
6:27:10PM IT'S WHAT KEEPS OUR BOND BALANCES HIGH.
6:27:12PM AS YOU SAID A YEAR OR SO AGO, OUR BOND RATINGS WENT UP IN
6:27:16PM THE LAST YEAR IN PART BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SO AGGRESSIVE ABOUT
6:27:20PM SAVING MONEY.
6:27:21PM THANK YOU.
6:27:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:27:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID THIS BEFORE REGARDING MAYOR IORIO.
6:27:27PM SHE HAD THE TOUGHEST GOAL OF MOST MAYORS IN THE LAST 50, 60
6:27:31PM YEARS.
6:27:32PM DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO WORK WITH.
6:27:34PM HELD IT TOGETHER.
6:27:35PM DID AN ADMIRABLE JOB, ALTHOUGH WE HAD TO RELEASE 750 SOME
6:27:40PM EMPLOYEES, BUT SHE GOT THROUGH IT.
6:27:41PM THE CITY SURVIVED AND SHE DID A FANTASTIC JOB.
6:27:45PM I WANT TO THANK HER AGAIN.
6:27:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
6:27:48PM NEXT.
6:27:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
6:27:54PM THEY ARE WAY AHEAD OF ME.
6:27:57PM THANK YOU IN THE BACK.
6:27:58PM APPRECIATE THAT.
6:27:58PM THE COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED THAT WE PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN OF THE
6:28:04PM COST ALLOCATION ASSOCIATED WITH CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
6:28:08PM AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION,
6:28:13PM SPECIFICALLY THE COST ALLOCATION ASSIGNED TO THE ENTERPRISE
6:28:16PM AGENCIES.
6:28:17PM YOU SEE THEM HERE, WATER, WASTEWATER, SOLID WASTE, AND
6:28:20PM PARKING.
6:28:21PM WE HAVE TOTAL ALLOCATION TO THE ENTERPRISE, AND THEN WE'VE
6:28:25PM ALSO ADDED TO PROVIDE CONTEXT, THE TOTAL COST ALLOCATION AT
6:28:29PM THE BOTTOM YOU SEE THERE ASSOCIATED WITH CONTRACT
6:28:33PM ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT.
6:28:34PM TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, YOU SEE THAT THE OVERWHELMING
6:28:38PM MAJORITY OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION'S COSTS, INDIRECT COSTS,
6:28:43PM COST ALLOCATION ARE BORNE BY THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
6:28:47PM IN FISCAL YEAR '24, FOR INSTANCE, IT WAS 8.2 MILLION OF 9.9
6:28:52PM MILLION.
6:28:53PM OF COURSE, YOU CAN READ TO THE RIGHT.
6:28:55PM IT'S NOT SURPRISING, I THINK, WHEN YOU REALIZE THE EXTENT OF
6:29:01PM WORK THAT CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DOES FOR THE ENTERPRISE
6:29:05PM AGENCIES.
6:29:06PM BECAUSE THE ENTERPRISE AGENCIES, OF COURSE, DO THE VERY,
6:29:09PM VERY LARGE PROJECTS.
6:29:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ON BOTH OF THESE.
6:29:14PM THESE ARE RESPONSES TO OUR REQUESTS IN THE LAST MEETING.
6:29:17PM THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
6:29:18PM I THINK THIS SHOULD BE PART OF THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD SO
6:29:22PM EVERYBODY CAN SEE.
6:29:24PM THE QUESTION WAS LAST WEEK, IN LOOKING AT THAT, ALMOST $12
6:29:28PM MILLION NUMBER, HOW MUCH OF IT IS RECOVERED FROM THE
6:29:31PM ENTERPRISE FUNDS SO THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
6:29:36PM GENERAL FUND WAS NOT SUBSIDIZING IT.
6:29:38PM THIS SHOWS A VERY SMALL SUBSIDY, AS YOU SAID, BUT GOOD TO
6:29:42PM SEE THE NUMBERS AND SEE HOW THE ENTERPRISE ARE COVERING IT.
6:29:46PM FOR ANYBODY WATCHING, IF YOU PAY YOUR WATER BILL, THE COST
6:29:49PM OF THE WATER PROJECTS AND GETTING THE BIDDING IS INCLUDED IN
6:29:53PM THE PRICE OF THE WATER BILL RATHER THAN HAVING TO PAY FOR IT
6:29:56PM WITH YOUR PROPERTY TAX.
6:29:57PM THANK YOU.
6:29:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
6:30:00PM I APPRECIATE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN.
6:30:01PM SOMETIMES WE GET TUNNEL VISION.
6:30:03PM I THINK THESE ARE VERY INFORMATIVE SLIDES.
6:30:05PM WE'LL MAKE THOSE PART OF THE TYPICAL OR THE USUAL SLIDE
6:30:08PM DECKS.
6:30:09PM AGAIN, IF I COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
6:30:17PM OF COURSE, YOU SEE A PRETTY SIMILAR SCENARIO IN TERMS OF
6:30:22PM PROPORTIONS FOR THE TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT.
6:30:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: SAME THING, ANOTHER QUESTION WE HAD AND YOU
6:30:33PM ANSWERED IT.
6:30:34PM THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
6:30:35PM AGAIN, THE IDEA IS THAT IF THERE ARE COSTS, THEY SHOULD BE
6:30:39PM PAID BY -- IN THE ENTERPRISES BY THE FEES, NOT BY -- NOT
6:30:46PM THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES AND OTHER FEES.
6:30:49PM SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN HERE.
6:30:51PM THANK YOU.
6:30:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
6:30:54PM IF NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, IF WE CAN MOVE AHEAD.
6:30:58PM COUNCIL HAD ALSO REQUESTED A DEBT-TO-REVENUE COMPARISON TO
6:31:01PM OTHER LOCALITIES.
6:31:03PM AND WE HAVE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR HERE WITH SOME SUPPORTING
6:31:09PM DOCUMENTATION AND A SLIDE TO PROVIDE THAT RESPONSE.
6:31:33PM >> GOOD EVENING.
6:31:34PM I'M MOLLY CLARK WITH PUBLIC RESOURCES ADVISORY GROUP SERVING
6:31:37PM AS MUNICIPAL ADVISOR TO THE CITY.
6:31:41PM AND IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED AT THE LAST
6:31:46PM HEARING, THIS IS A PRESENTATION OF THE REVENUES AND
6:31:50PM LIABILITIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, ALONG WITH A FLORIDA PEER
6:31:55PM GROUP WE DEVELOPED AS WELL AS AN OUTSIDE OF FLORIDA PEER
6:31:58PM GROUP.
6:31:59PM THE PEER CITIES WERE INITIALLY SELECTED SORT OF ON TWO VERY
6:32:03PM BASIC CRITERIA.
6:32:05PM WHAT ARE THE POPULATIONS AND WHAT IS THEIR GEOGRAPHIC SIZE?
6:32:09PM WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE SERVING ABOUT THE SAME PEOPLE
6:32:12PM AND IN A SIMILARLY SIZED PLACE SO THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, A
6:32:16PM WATER SYSTEM, SIMILAR AMOUNT OF LINEAR MILEAGE, HOWEVER
6:32:22PM THOSE ARE MEASURED AND WE'RE NOT SERVING A MUCH, MUCH LARGER
6:32:25PM OR MUCH, MUCH SMALLER AREA.
6:32:28PM HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT MIAMI, ORLANDO, ST. PETE.
6:32:31PM OUTSIDE OF FLORIDA, WE'VE GOT ARLINGTON, TEXAS, CINCINNATI,
6:32:35PM CLEVELAND, MINNEAPOLIS, NEW ORLEANS, OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA,
6:32:39PM ST. LOUIS AND WICHITA.
6:32:40PM HERE YOU CAN SEE ACROSS A THIRD OF THE WAY DOWN THE SLIDE
6:32:45PM THE TOTAL REVENUES OF EACH OF THE CITIES.
6:32:48PM TWO-THIRDS OF THE WAY DOWN, TOTAL LIABILITIES AND DEBT OF
6:32:52PM EACH OF THESE CITIES.
6:32:54PM WE THEN CALCULATE OUR LIABILITIES TO REVENUES RATIOS, AND
6:32:59PM THERE WE RANKED WHERE IS TAMPA FALLING AMONG THIS GROUP OF
6:33:04PM 12 FROM LOWEST TO HIGHEST?
6:33:06PM YOU CAN SEE TAMPA'S REVENUE -- LIABILITIES TO REVENUES RATIO
6:33:11PM JUST ABOUT 208%.
6:33:13PM AND THEN READING ACROSS THAT LINE, YOU CAN SEE MIAMI IS
6:33:18PM QUITE A BIT HIGHER.
6:33:20PM ORLANDO QUITE A BIT LOWER.
6:33:21PM WE RANKED THEM 1 THROUGH 12 WITH TAMPA SITTING AT POSITION
6:33:27PM 4.
6:33:27PM FINAL LINE, WE'RE SHOWING EACH OF THESE ISSUERS RATINGS FROM
6:33:32PM MOODY'S.
6:33:34PM THESE ARE THE ISSUER CREDIT RATINGS.
6:33:38PM MANY OF YOUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE ALSO RATED.
6:33:41PM THOSE ARE ENTERPRISE FUND RATINGS.
6:33:43PM THE ISSUER CREDIT RATING IS KIND OF AKIN TO A G.O. RATING.
6:33:48PM THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY OUTSTANDING G.O. BONDS.
6:33:53PM MOST OF THE ISSUERS DON'T EITHER.
6:33:54PM ESSENTIALLY THE TOP OF THE HEAT UMBRELLA RATING THAT WOULD
6:33:57PM APPLY TO EACH OF THESE CITIES.
6:34:00PM THE MOODY'S AA-1 RATING IS ONE NOTCH BELOW MOODY'S HIGHEST
6:34:05PM RATING.
6:34:05PM MOODY'S HIGHEST RATING IS AAA.
6:34:09PM JUST FOR ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THE CITY'S
6:34:12PM CURRENT ISSUER CREDIT RATINGS FROM STANDARD & POOR'S AND
6:34:16PM FITCH ARE AAA.
6:34:18PM THOSE ARE THE HIGHEST RATINGS YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM EITHER OF
6:34:21PM THOSE AGENCIES.
6:34:21PM WITH MOODY'S, ONE NOTCH DOWN.
6:34:24PM WE CHOSE TO USE MOODY'S DATA IN THIS PRESENTATION FOR A
6:34:28PM COUPLE OF REASONS.
6:34:29PM ONE, BECAUSE WE SORT OF FELT LIKE IT IS MOST TRANSPARENT AND
6:34:33PM MOST FAIR TO USE THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OFFERING YOU YOUR
6:34:36PM BEST RATING.
6:34:37PM AA-1 IS A RATING YOU CAN BE EXTREMELY PROUD OF AND SHOULD
6:34:41PM BE, BUT IT'S NOT A AAA.
6:34:43PM THE OTHERS HAVE GIVEN YOU A AAA, WE SAID TAKE A LOOK AT THE
6:34:48PM MOODY'S METRICS IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY.
6:34:51PM SECONDLY, MOODY'S DATA ANALYTICS ARE THE SCORECARDS THEY
6:34:55PM PROVIDE ARE REALLY EASY TO FOLLOW.
6:34:58PM THEIR DATA IS VERY ACCESSIBLE.
6:35:00PM SO IT'S SORT OF, THEIR TOOLS ARE READILY AVAILABLE AND
6:35:03PM SOMEWHAT MORE USER FRIENDLY.
6:35:05PM THAT IS SORT OF THE SECOND REASON WE CHOSE TO GO WITH
6:35:08PM MOODY'S HERE.
6:35:10PM IN EACH -- WITH EACH OF THESE ISSUERS, EVERYONE DOES CERTAIN
6:35:15PM THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
6:35:16PM I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD TO FIND TWO CITIES IN THE STATE OF
6:35:19PM FLORIDA, LET ALONE TWO CITIES NATIONALLY WHO ARE DOING
6:35:23PM EVERYTHING EXACTLY THE SAME.
6:35:25PM THE RATING AGENCY WORK IS SO HELPFUL BECAUSE THEY HAVE TAKEN
6:35:28PM THE TIME TO DEVELOP PROTOCOLS AND METHODS OF APPROACHING
6:35:37PM DIFFERENT THINGS BEING DONE DIFFERENTLY BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE
6:35:40PM IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
6:35:41PM AND SORT OF BOILING DOWN AND DRILLING DOWN TWO METRICS THAT
6:35:45PM CAN BE APPLIED ACROSS THE BOARD.
6:35:47PM THE RATING AGENCIES ARE RELIABLE.
6:35:49PM THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL.
6:35:50PM THEIR WORK IS CONSIDERED SORT OF GENERALLY JUST RELIABLE
6:35:58PM ACROSS THE U.S.
6:35:59PM THEY ARE USED INTERNATIONALLY WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL SPACE AS
6:36:01PM WELL AS IN THE CORPORATE SPACE.
6:36:04PM GOING BACK TO THE REVENUES AND THE RANKINGS AND THE RATINGS,
6:36:12PM WITHIN THE LIABILITIES AND REVENUES, SOME CITIES ISSUE WATER
6:36:15PM AND SEWER DEBT, LIKE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
6:36:18PM SOME CITIES DO NOT.
6:36:19PM ORLANDO, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS ORLANDO UTILITIES COMMISSION
6:36:23PM ISSUES THAT DEBT.
6:36:24PM SO THEY DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER DEBT THAT'S AFFECTING
6:36:27PM THEIR LIABILITIES.
6:36:29PM OTHER CITIES, THE CITY OF ARLINGTON, TEXAS, HAS QUITE A BIT
6:36:34PM OF STADIUM DEBT ON THEIR BOOKS.
6:36:36PM CITY OF TAMPA DOES NOT.
6:36:37PM THAT AFFECTS THEIR DEBT.
6:36:38PM IT ALSO AFFECTS THEIR REVENUES.
6:36:40PM YOU CAN NEVER -- IT'S NEVER TRULY APPLES TO APPLES BUT WE'VE
6:36:43PM DONE OUR BEST TO BRING TOGETHER THIS COMPARISON FOR YOUR
6:36:48PM BENEFIT AND SORT OF THE BENEFIT OF ANYBODY TAKING A LOOK AT
6:36:51PM THIS.
6:36:51PM WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, WE CAN SEE TAMPA'S LONG-TERM
6:36:55PM LIABILITIES TO REVENUES RATIO IS AT 208%.
6:36:59PM THE HIGHEST RATIO HERE IS THE CITY OF WICHITA, WHICH IS JUST
6:37:04PM -- 311%.
6:37:07PM WE CAN SEE WHEN YOU GO TO THE BOTTOM ROW, TAMPA SCORES A
6:37:09PM AA-1 RATING AND THEN WICHITA ALL THE WAY UP AT 311 PERCENT
6:37:14PM IS AT AA-2.
6:37:16PM ONLY ONE NOTCH DOWN FROM THE AA-1.
6:37:19PM THE REASON FOR THIS, AGAIN, EACH ENTITY IS A LITTLE BIT
6:37:22PM DIFFERENT AND IN ADDITION TO THE LONG-TERM LIABILITIES TO
6:37:25PM REVENUES RATIO, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER FACTORS THAT THE
6:37:29PM RATING AGENCIES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY ARE EVALUATING
6:37:32PM AN ISSUER'S CREDIT AND ULTIMATELY ASSIGNING A CREDIT RATING.
6:37:36PM HERE YOU CAN SEE THESE RANKINGS, THE REVENUE PERCENTAGES AND
6:37:42PM THEN THE RATINGS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCORECARD.
6:37:47PM THAT, I THINK THIS IS RESPONSIVE TO THE REQUEST AS FAR AS
6:37:53PM INFORMATION BEING PRESENTED.
6:37:55PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
6:37:59PM FOLLOW-UPS, WHATEVER COULD BE HELPFUL.
6:38:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:38:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
6:38:04PM THIS IS ANOTHER RESPONSE TO A QUESTION WE HAD.
6:38:06PM APPRECIATE THIS.
6:38:09PM A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO IT.
6:38:11PM WHAT YEAR REVENUES DID THIS COME FROM?
6:38:15PM >> THESE ARE THE MOST RECENT AVAILABLE -- THESE ARE BASED ON
6:38:19PM EACH ISSUER'S MOST RECENTLY PUBLISHED FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
6:38:22PM SO FOR TAMPA, IT'S 9/30/2024.
6:38:26PM SOME OF THE ISSUERS I THINK NEW ORLEANS MIGHT HAVE BEEN AS
6:38:29PM FAR BACK AS 2022.
6:38:31PM THEY ARE SLIGHTLY DELAYED.
6:38:33PM SOME ISSUERS ISSUE ON 6/30 FISCAL YEAR.
6:38:37PM ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IT IS THE MOST RECENTLY AVAILABLE
6:38:41PM AUDIT FINANCIAL REPORT FOR EACH ISSUER.
6:38:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
6:38:45PM I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THIS IN A WORKSHOP AT SOME
6:38:48PM POINT, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
6:38:51PM WHEN I PUT UP DATA BEFORE, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T LIKE THE
6:38:56PM DATA, THEY SAY, WHY DID YOU PICK THIS SAMPLE SET?
6:39:01PM IT WOULD BE GOOD SINCE THIS MIGHT HAVE TO STAND ON ITS OWN
6:39:05PM IN SOME PLACES, IF THERE WAS A BETTER FOOTNOTE OR DATA ON
6:39:11PM EXACTLY WHY EACH OF THOSE COMPARISONS WERE CHOSEN.
6:39:13PM WE CAN SEE THE REVENUES, BUT YOU MENTIONED POPULATION SIZE.
6:39:17PM ALSO, IT WOULD HELP, LIKE WICHITA LOOKS LIKE AN OUTLIER
6:39:20PM BECAUSE THE REVENUES ARE SO SMALL.
6:39:23PM THE OTHER THING, WHICH I DIDN'T EXPECT, THE PENSION
6:39:28PM LIABILITIES, AND THEN THE OTHER BENEFITS.
6:39:33PM I THINK THAT'S GREAT DISCLOSURE AND WE SHOULD GO DOWN AND
6:39:36PM TALK ABOUT THOSE MORE DEEPLY.
6:39:38PM THE QUESTION I HAD INTENDED TO ASK IS ABOUT THE BOND DEBT
6:39:44PM VERSUS REVENUES.
6:39:45PM SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE THAT.
6:39:48PM WE CAN GO THROUGH AND CALCULATE IT OURSELVES.
6:39:50PM IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE THAT AS A SEPARATE MEASURE.
6:39:53PM WE HAVE REVENUES TO ALL LONG-TERM LIABILITIES AND THEN WE
6:39:58PM HAVE JUST BOND DEBT TO REVENUES.
6:40:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:40:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
6:40:11PM THIS IS A GREAT COMPARISON CHART.
6:40:13PM I'M SURPRISED WITH WICHITA.
6:40:16PM WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.
6:40:17PM ANYWAYS, A AA-1 RATING I THINK IS THE EQUIVALENT OF HAVING
6:40:22PM AN 800 BEACON SCORE.
6:40:23PM IT'S NOT PERFECT.
6:40:25PM YOU CAN GET PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER YOU WANT AT GREAT RATES.
6:40:29PM MY CONCERN IS MOVING FORWARD IN REGARDS TO DEBT.
6:40:33PM I UNDERSTAND, SOMETIMES DEBT IS GOOD.
6:40:35PM DEPENDS HOW YOU BORROW, WHAT RATE YOU GET.
6:40:38PM WE JUST NEED TO BE CAREFUL AS THIS ADMINISTRATION SUNSETS
6:40:41PM AND WHOEVER THE NEXT MAYOR IS, ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY BECAUSE
6:40:45PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THAT WE DON'T KEEP
6:40:49PM PILING ON MORE AND MORE DEBT.
6:40:51PM AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MATCH OR EXCEED REVENUES TO WHAT THE
6:40:56PM DEBT IS, THAT WE'RE NEVER IN A BAD POSITION.
6:40:58PM I WAS LOOKING AT MIAMI-DADE BUDGET AND THEY HAD LIKE A 400
6:41:01PM MILLION-DOLLAR SHORTFALL IN JULY AND THEY MAGICALLY CLOSED
6:41:05PM THAT.
6:41:06PM WE HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AWESOME TEAM
6:41:09PM RIGHT THERE AND MANY MORE.
6:41:11PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE -- IT WAS MENTIONED, AND
6:41:15PM THEY HAVE STADIUM DEBT.
6:41:17PM THAT'S NOT CHEAP.
6:41:18PM SO MOVING FORWARD WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF MAINTAINING OUR
6:41:23PM CREDIT RATING IS HIGH.
6:41:25PM I KNOW THE OTHERS ARE AAA, BUT NOT LOSING THAT.
6:41:28PM IT WAS TOUGH TO GET HERE.
6:41:30PM ESPECIALLY COMING OUT OF WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE
6:41:32PM GREAT RECESSION AND ALL THE OTHER ECONOMIC CHALLENGES, WE'RE
6:41:34PM IN A GREAT POSITION AND NEED TO MAINTAIN THAT.
6:41:37PM WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHAT WE BORROW, HOW MUCH WE BORROW,
6:41:40PM MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COVER THAT AND WE'RE NEVER IN A
6:41:42PM POSITION OF DEFAULT OR DEFICIT FOR ANYTHING ELSE NEGATIVE.
6:41:48PM THIS IS FASCINATING THIS CHART BECAUSE THERE ARE CITIES I
6:41:51PM WOULD NEVER THOUGHT OF.
6:41:53PM HERE WE ARE IN A PRETTY GOOD POSITION, NUMBER FOUR OUT OF
6:41:57PM 12.
6:41:57PM FOUR BEING, THE LOWER THE NUMBER, THE BETTER.
6:42:00PM THANKS.
6:42:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, FOLLOWED BY
6:42:03PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:42:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
6:42:06PM I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO ASK IF THIS PRESENTATION WILL
6:42:09PM BE PUT INTO OnBase BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE
6:42:14PM IN THE CROWD STANDING TO LOOK AT THE SCREEN AS I DID RIGHT
6:42:19PM THEN.
6:42:19PM I DO BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THE PUBLIC IS VERY INTERESTED
6:42:22PM IN.
6:42:22PM IF COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON MOVED FOR A WORKSHOP ON THIS, I
6:42:28PM WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT HIM.
6:42:31PM BECAUSE THE MORE WE ALL LEARN, THE BETTER WE GET AT THIS.
6:42:34PM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS DATA.
6:42:35PM IT'S JUST WONDERFUL.
6:42:37PM VERY INTERESTING, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THE WAY YOU
6:42:40PM EXPLAINED IT.
6:42:40PM THANK YOU.
6:42:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:42:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
6:42:44PM AS WE ALL KNOW, THE ENTERPRISE FUND ARE THOSE FUNDS THAT
6:42:47PM CREATE THEIR OWN REVENUES TO MAINTAIN THEMSELVES, PAY THE
6:42:49PM PAYROLL, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
6:42:51PM IN FACT, WITHIN THE FUND IS THE WATER DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY
6:42:53PM OF TAMPA.
6:42:55PM EITHER FIVE OR EIGHT IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY THAT HAVE A TRIPLE
6:42:58PM A BOND RATING AND TAMPA IS ONE OF THEM.
6:43:01PM WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT BECAUSE THE
6:43:03PM WATER DEPARTMENT HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB DOING WHAT THEY
6:43:06PM DO AND SPEND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY TIME THEY
6:43:09PM DO REPAIRS AND NEW TECHNOLOGY COMES ALONG.
6:43:12PM JUST LIKE THE OTHER THREE DEPARTMENTS IN THAT AREA, THEY
6:43:14PM ALSO DO THE SAME THING.
6:43:16PM THEY DO A LOT, BUT THEY HAVE TO BORROW A LOT AND THEY MAKE
6:43:20PM MONEY BECAUSE THEIR MONEY IS ALMOST GUARANTEED.
6:43:22PM HOWEVER, ON OUR SIDE, IT'S NOT GUARANTEED, BECAUSE IF YOU
6:43:26PM HAVE A SLOW-DOWN IN ECONOMY AND THE THING STARTS TO TANK AND
6:43:30PM VALUES GO DOWN, THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY, BUT THE MONEY IS
6:43:33PM NOT THERE TO PAY.
6:43:34PM THAT IS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT I SEE.
6:43:36PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I APPRECIATE BOTH WHAT THE
6:43:41PM FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND THIS
6:43:44PM TEAM HAS BEEN TOGETHER FOR JUST A FEW YEARS.
6:43:47PM I WON'T SAY HOW MANY.
6:43:48PM I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THEM FEEL OF ANY AGE, BUT THEY HAVE
6:43:51PM DONE A FANTASTIC JOB YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT.
6:43:53PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:43:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:43:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: BASED ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA SAID,
6:43:58PM IT REMINDED ME ALSO, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE THIS AS HOWEVER
6:44:02PM YOU WANT TO CHARACTERIZE IT, THE BOND DEBT VERSUS REVENUES.
6:44:05PM AND THEN JUST EYE BALLING, IT LOOKS LIKE THE PERCENTAGE
6:44:09PM WOULD CHANGE A LOT THEN.
6:44:11PM BUT IT ALSO WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE GENERAL FUND DEBT,
6:44:16PM THE GENERAL FUND BOND DEBT VERSUS REVENUES AS A RATIO, AND
6:44:23PM THEN DO THE ENTERPRISE ONE SEPARATELY.
6:44:26PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD MORE TIME IN BUDGET, IT WOULD BE
6:44:29PM GREAT TO GO INTO THE INDIVIDUAL ENTERPRISE FUNDS, TOO, TO
6:44:32PM SEE WHAT THE RATIOS ARE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER AND SOLID
6:44:36PM WASTE, ET CETERA.
6:44:37PM BUT AT LEAST IF WE HAD A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND
6:44:43PM DEBT AND THE ENTERPRISE FUND DEBT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
6:44:46PM JUST ANOTHER WAY TO DIG IN AND NOT JUST FOR US, BUT THE
6:44:50PM PUBLIC IS VERY INTERESTED IN THIS.
6:44:53PM WHAT WE FIND IS THE MORE DATA WE PROVIDE, THE MORE THE
6:44:56PM PUBLIC TRUSTS THE OUTCOME.
6:44:58PM THANK YOU.
6:45:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE THING TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE HOME IS THE
6:45:04PM TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGES THAT WE ARE MAKING IN THE CITY OF
6:45:07PM TAMPA WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT A LOT OF THIS DEBT --
6:45:12PM I'M SURE WE WILL BE THE ENVY OF EVERY ONE OF THE CITIES AND
6:45:15PM MORE.
6:45:15PM MOST OF THE CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE WE ARE
6:45:17PM REPLACING OUR WATER PIPES, REPLACING OUR SEWER PIPES.
6:45:22PM WE'RE DOING MAGIC AND A LOT OF THAT DEBT, MY UNDERSTANDING,
6:45:25PM MR. ROGERO, WAS TAKEN OUT WHEN WE HAD HISTORICALLY LOW
6:45:29PM INTEREST RATES AS WE STARTED THIS.
6:45:31PM IT WAS TIMING AND LUCK, SOMETIMES BETTER THAN STRATEGIC
6:45:35PM PLANNING.
6:45:35PM SO WE ARE REPLACING SO MUCH OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
6:45:39PM IT WILL BE FOR GENERATIONS, NEXT FEW GENERATIONS WILL BE
6:45:43PM THANKFUL FOR THE PAST COUNCILS AND THIS COUNCIL FOR THE
6:45:46PM INVESTMENT THAT IS BEING MADE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
6:45:48PM IT'S NOT SEXY.
6:45:50PM NOBODY SEES IT.
6:45:51PM IT'S THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING BUT TAKING CARE OF THE WATER
6:45:54PM THAT'S COMING TO YOUR HOUSE, TAKING CARE OF THE DIRTY WATER
6:45:58PM FLOWING OUT OF YOUR HOUSE AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE
6:46:00PM UNDERNEATH THE STREETS.
6:46:01PM SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT DEBT, REALIZE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF
6:46:04PM THAT DEBT IS INVESTING INTO TOMORROW.
6:46:08PM THANK YOU.
6:46:09PM GREAT PRESENTATION.
6:46:11PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
6:46:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU SO MUCH, MOLLY.
6:46:15PM POSTSCRIPT, I NEGLECTED TO GIVE MOLLY'S FULL NAME.
6:46:18PM MOLLY CLARK WITH PUBLIC RESOURCES ADVISORY GROUP.
6:46:21PM FINANCIAL ADVISOR.
6:46:23PM BEEN A GREAT PARTNERSHIP FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
6:46:26PM THANK YOU.
6:46:27PM REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
6:46:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MOLLY.
6:46:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
6:46:45PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:46:45PM SPEAKING OF WATER AND WASTEWATER, COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED AN
6:46:51PM EXPLANATION OF SOME ANOMALIES IN THE FISCAL YEAR 25
6:46:56PM PROJECTED REVENUES AND EXPENSES.
6:46:58PM MR. PERRY WILL SPEAK ON THAT.
6:47:01PM WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THEM, YOU SEE IN THE YELLOW CIRCLES.
6:47:11PM >>MICHAEL PERRY: GOOD EVENING.
6:47:11PM MIKE PERRY, REVENUE AND FINANCE.
6:47:13PM THE CITY CHARTER REQUIRES THE BUDGET OFFICE TO PRESENT A
6:47:17PM BUDGET THAT CONTAINS THE PRIOR TWO-YEAR ACTUAL EXPENSES, THE
6:47:22PM ADOPTED BUDGET CURRENTLY IN AND PROJECTED EXPENDITURES BASED
6:47:29PM ON THAT CURRENT BUDGET.
6:47:30PM NOW, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A PURE OPERATING BUDGET LIKE
6:47:33PM REVENUE AND FINANCE, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO PROJECT WHAT OUR
6:47:37PM EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES WILL BE.
6:47:39PM HOWEVER, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH MULTIYEAR GRANTS AND
6:47:42PM MULTIYEAR CAPITAL PROJECTS, NO MATTER WHAT NUMBER WE PUT IN
6:47:48PM THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE WRONG.
6:47:49PM JUST GOING TO BE REAL HONEST.
6:47:50PM WE CAN DO OUR BEST BUT WILL NEVER HIT THAT NUMBER.
6:47:54PM WE CHOSE TO TAKE THE APPROACH TO PROVIDE THE MAXIMUM
6:47:57PM LIABILITY.
6:47:58PM IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE SPENT EVERY DOLLAR THAT'S APPROPRIATED
6:48:02PM WITHIN THE BUDGET, WE PUT THAT NUMBER IN THE PROJECTION.
6:48:05PM THIS PARTICULAR CASE, YOU SEE THAT THE WASTEWATER OPERATING
6:48:11PM EXPENSES DOWN ON THE BOTTOM HAD AN ADOPTED BUDGET OF 115,
6:48:15PM BUT WE'RE PROJECTING $349 MILLION.
6:48:18PM THAT MEANS THERE'S ABOUT A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS OF
6:48:24PM CAPITAL PROJECT APPROPRIATION THAT WE BRING FORWARD FROM THE
6:48:27PM AREA YEAR TO THE FISCAL YEAR.
6:48:29PM THAT'S WHY THE LARGE INCREASE THERE.
6:48:31PM IF YOU GO UP TO THE REVENUES, THE OTHER LINE, ADOPTED BUDGET
6:48:36PM WAS 188 MILLION, POINT THREE MILLION DOLLAR.
6:48:40PM WE'RE PROJECTING $267.8 MILLION.
6:48:44PM AND THAT INCLUDES BOND ISSUE THAT WE JUST DID IN OCTOBER.
6:48:48PM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
6:48:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NONE.
6:48:55PM THANK YOU.
6:48:56PM >>MICHAEL PERRY: THANK YOU.
6:48:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
6:48:58PM ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE, THE PRESENTATION.
6:49:05PM HERE, AS I REFERENCED EARLIER ARE THE TENTATIVE SUMMARY OF
6:49:12PM CHANGES.
6:49:13PM NOW, OF COURSE, THIS WAS DONE PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL'S INPUT.
6:49:17PM YOU SEE THE ROUTE ONE, THE YELLOW JACKET CIP.
6:49:21PM MOVEMENT OF THREE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO THE PORTFOLIOS
6:49:25PM AND, OF COURSE, WE'LL TAKE THE MOTIONS, TAKE THE FEEDBACK
6:49:28PM FROM COUNCIL THIS EVENING AND PROVIDE A REVISED SUMMARY OF
6:49:32PM CHANGES, WHICH, AGAIN, WILL RESEMBLE THE FINANCIAL
6:49:37PM RESOLUTION WE'LL BRING TO COUNCIL.
6:49:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:49:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:49:41PM AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, FOR THE NAACP, I WANT THE FULL
6:49:47PM HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR FUNDING.
6:49:48PM THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND FUTURE OF THE
6:49:50PM COMMUNITY.
6:49:51PM RETURNING CITIZENS, SAME ITEM.
6:49:52PM I BELIEVE THAT'S COUNCILMAN VIERA'S ITEM.
6:49:55PM YBOR CITY MUSEUM AS WELL.
6:49:57PM I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THOSE.
6:49:59PM I LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER DISCUSSION AND SUPPORTING THOSE
6:50:03PM ITEMS.
6:50:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:50:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I RECALL, YOU CAN CORRECT ME, MR. ROGERO,
6:50:10PM AS I RECALL, THE NAACP IS A PROGRAM TO HELP ENTREPRENEURS.
6:50:15PM IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER IN ECONOMIC
6:50:19PM DEVELOPMENT THAN IN COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
6:50:22PM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS IMPLIES THAT THERE'S NOT AS MUCH OF A
6:50:26PM MEASURABLE OUTCOME FOR IT.
6:50:28PM BUT IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY HELPING COACH ENTREPRENEURS, IT
6:50:33PM SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE BETTER.
6:50:35PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT FOR
6:50:38PM RETURNING CITIZENS OR NOT, BUT IT IS THE SAME THING.
6:50:40PM OUR ECONOMIC NUMBERS GO UP WHEN WE HAVE FULL EMPLOYMENT.
6:50:44PM IF THEY ARE RETURNING CITIZENS AND CAN'T FIND JOBS AND WE
6:50:46PM HELP THEM FIND JOBS, THAT WILL HELP OUR ECONOMIC NUMBERS.
6:50:50PM SEEMS TO ME INCLUDED UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
6:50:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
6:50:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: TWO QUICK THINGS.
6:50:58PM YES, RETURNING CITIZENS, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE THERE.
6:51:02PM EVERY YEAR IN OUR COUNTRY, I THINK 650,000 PEOPLE LEAVE THE
6:51:06PM PRISON SYSTEM.
6:51:07PM WITHIN THREE YEARS, TWO-THIRDS REOFFEND.
6:51:10PM WE JUST NEED TO DO BETTER.
6:51:11PM I TRIED TO HAVE THE CITY MOVE ON THIS JUST TO MAINSTREAM THE
6:51:16PM ISSUE.
6:51:16PM BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT THE ISSUE, OH, I'M
6:51:19PM NOT TOUCHING THAT.
6:51:20PM PROBABLY ME 15 YEARS AGO.
6:51:24PM IT'S AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS ALL OF US, ALL OF OUR FAMILIES.
6:51:27PM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
6:51:29PM I WAS ALSO GOING TO -- IT'S NOT DIRECTLY ON POINT HERE, BUT
6:51:33PM I AM GOING TO BE MAKING A MOTION AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT,
6:51:37PM OBVIOUSLY, ON THE SKILL CENTER AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN GET
6:51:40PM THEM THIS YEAR.
6:51:41PM I WAS DOING SOME STUFF BACK THERE ON IT EARLIER.
6:51:46PM YEAH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHENEVER THE TIME COMES.
6:51:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
6:51:51PM THAT CONCLUDES YOUR PRESENTATION?
6:51:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
6:51:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
6:51:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
6:51:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
6:52:01PM BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
6:52:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS?
6:52:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FIVE MINUTES BECOMES COUNCIL 15.
6:52:11PM 7:00.
6:52:14PM WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK.
6:52:16PM WE'LL RETURN TO COUNCIL AT 7:00 SHARP.
6:52:18PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
6:52:19PM [BREAK]
7:03:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
7:03:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
7:03:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
7:03:53PM >> CARLSON, CLENDENIN.
7:03:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
7:03:54PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
7:03:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
7:03:56PM WHERE WE LEFT OFF IS MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
7:04:00PM YOU'LL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED IN.
7:04:03PM THE FIRST SPEAKER IS PAM CANNELLA FOLLOWED BY STEPHEN
7:04:06PM MICHELINI.
7:04:08PM IS PAM HERE?
7:04:10PM RIGHT UP FRONT.
7:04:24PM >> HE'S GOING TO PUT MY PICTURES DOWN.
7:04:26PM >> THE PHOTO HANDLER IS ON DUTY.
7:04:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES SHORTLY.
7:04:30PM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
7:04:32PM THIS STORMWATER BUDGET IS IMPORTANT TO THE SUCCESS AND
7:04:35PM FIXING TAMPA'S FLOODING.
7:04:39PM CLEANING, MAINTENANCE HAS TO BE CITY'S FIRST PRIORITY.
7:04:43PM TAMPA IS VULNERABLE TO SEA LEVEL RISE, EXTREME RAINFALL,
7:04:48PM STORM SURGES, AND OVERDEVELOPMENT.
7:04:49PM A PLAN FOR CONTINUOUS MAINTENANCE AND CLEANING IS NEEDED
7:04:54PM UNTIL WE ARE CAUGHT UP.
7:04:56PM THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT NEED A MORE PERMANENT FIX.
7:05:00PM THE PALMIRA DITCH WAS CLEANED IN MAY.
7:05:03PM THREE MONTHS LATER, IT'S OVERGROWN AND CLOGGED.
7:05:06PM CITY CONTRACTORS ARE STILL NOT PICKING UP THEIR PLASTICS AND
7:05:09PM TRASH.
7:05:09PM THERE'S GRASS CLIPPINGS ENDING UP IN RECENTLY EXCAVATED AND
7:05:14PM CLEAN DITCHES.
7:05:15PM A MAINTENANCE PLAN IS NEEDED.
7:05:17PM AS DISCUSSED BY CITY COUNCIL TO ADDRESS AREA BY AREA.
7:05:22PM STORMWATER DEPARTMENT NEEDS ITS FUNDING.
7:05:26PM NEEDS BEFORE WANTS.
7:05:28PM WASTEFUL SPENDING HAS TAXPAYERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
7:05:33PM ACCUMULATION OF DEBT.
7:05:34PM TOO MANY COSTLY PROJECTS.
7:05:36PM TAMPA IS NO LONGER RESILIENT AND SUSTAINABLE, BUT VULNERABLE
7:05:41PM AND UNSUSTAINABLE.
7:05:43PM SO STORMWATER DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE -- NEEDS TO FUNCTION
7:05:47PM MORE EFFICIENTLY AND RESPONSIBLY AND NEEDS TO BE INDEPENDENT
7:05:49PM OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
7:05:51PM BY LAW, TAXPAYERS ASSESSMENT FEES NEED TO BE KEPT SEPARATE
7:05:56PM FROM OTHER FUNDS.
7:05:57PM THIS CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED IF STORMWATER IS AN INDEPENDENT
7:06:00PM DEPARTMENT SEPARATE FROM MOBILITY.
7:06:03PM WASTEFUL SPENDING NEEDS TO STOP.
7:06:05PM CITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE QUESTIONABLE AND COSTLY
7:06:09PM NEED TO BE POSTPONED FOR FURTHER STUDY.
7:06:12PM I FEEL THE HOWARD PROJECT IS ONE OF THESE.
7:06:14PM THE FLOODING IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND THE TWO PONDS IN THAT
7:06:18PM AREA HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.
7:06:20PM IT IS NOT IN THE HOWARD PROJECT.
7:06:22PM THE CITY'S VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT REPORT, 2025, STATES,
7:06:27PM PALMA CEIA PINES STRONGLY RELIES ON THE HOSPITAL PUMP.
7:06:32PM YET AT THE JULY STORMWATER COMMUNITY MEETING, NO BACKUP
7:06:36PM GENERATOR WAS ORDERED FOR HOSPITAL PUMP, AND IT WASN'T
7:06:41PM PROVIDED.
7:06:42PM BRYAN RODGERS SAID IT WAS COMING, THE PUMPS WERE COMING --
7:06:47PM I'M SORRY, THE GENERATOR.
7:06:48PM JEFF DeBOSIER SAID THE PUMP DIDN'T WORK.
7:06:52PM ANOTHER STORMWATER STAFF SAID IT TURNS ON BUT WATER PUMPS TO
7:06:56PM WESTSHORE OUTFALL.
7:06:58PM DRAIN MAPS SHOW WATERS FLOWS NORTH, EAST, BACK INTO THE
7:07:01PM POND.
7:07:02PM DURING MY MEETING WITH MR. DeBOSIER, HE EXPLAINED THE PUMP
7:07:05PM NOT EFFICIENT ENOUGH TO REDUCE STORMWATER FROM POND.
7:07:09PM HE SAID POND FILTER NEVER GOT CLEANED.
7:07:12PM MY POINT IS, TOO MANY CONFLICTING ANSWERS.
7:07:15PM NO ONE REALLY KNOWS.
7:07:16PM THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT OF A PROJECT AND TOO COSTLY NOT TO
7:07:20PM ADDRESS THESE PONDS, ESPECIALLY THE POND UNDER THE PARKING
7:07:24PM LOT AND HOSPITAL PUMP.
7:07:26PM BOTH ARE THE KEY TO THE FLOODING OF PALMA CEIA PINES AND
7:07:30PM PARKLAND ESTATES.
7:07:30PM THANK YOU.
7:07:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
7:07:33PM AND YOU GOT OUT EARLY.
7:07:35PM STEPHEN MICHELINI FOLLOWED BY ADAM HARDEN.
7:07:38PM >> WE TRAINED.
7:07:39PM STEVE MICHELINI.
7:07:47PM FIRST, LET ME START BY SAYING THE CRA FUNDS NEED TO BE
7:07:50PM PAYING THEIR OWN WAY FOR OTHER UTILITIES THAT ARE NOT PAYING
7:07:54PM FOR.
7:07:56PM YOU CAN'T USE THE CRA AS A PIGGY BANK TO TAKE GENERAL FUNDS
7:08:00PM AND THEN MAKE GENERAL FUNDS MAKE UP FOR OTHER SERVICES THAT
7:08:04PM CRA IS NOT PAYING FOR.
7:08:06PM THE SECOND THING IS, WHAT IS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY'S
7:08:09PM RESPONSIBILITY?
7:08:09PM WE'RE TAKING TONS OF MONEY OUT OF THE CRAs AND OUT OF THE
7:08:13PM CITY BUDGET FOR HOUSING.
7:08:15PM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU ASK THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO COME
7:08:18PM IN HERE AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THE
7:08:22PM FEDERAL, THE STATE, AND THE COUNTY FUNDS THAT THEY ARE
7:08:24PM RECEIVING THAT SHOULD BE GOING TO HOUSING.
7:08:26PM CAPITAL PROJECTS SHOULD REFLECT SMALLER, ACHIEVABLE GOALS
7:08:32PM THAT ARE AREA SPECIFIC AND STOP TAKING ON LARGER PROJECTS
7:08:35PM THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL.
7:08:37PM THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT AND THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE TWO
7:08:41PM ASSESSMENTS THAT YOU HAVE, CAN BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE AND
7:08:44PM REPAIRS.
7:08:45PM THE CITY HAS CHOSEN TO ONLY USE THE ONE SIDE FOR MAINTENANCE
7:08:49PM AND REPAIRS INSTEAD OF BOTH.
7:08:53PM ONE IS BEING ALLOCATED FOR NEW PROJECTS WHEN THAT'S NOT
7:08:56PM NECESSARILY THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE.
7:08:59PM OTHER STORMWATER ASSESSMENTS, 13 MILLION OUT OF 15 MILLION
7:09:03PM IS BEING USED FOR SALARIES.
7:09:04PM I DON'T THINK THAT'S RESPONSIBLE.
7:09:07PM MAKE MAINTENANCE AND ALL UTILITY STORMWATER SANITARY SEWERS
7:09:11PM AND PAVING AND WATER ISSUES A PRIORITY.
7:09:15PM MAKE THEM THE FIRST PRIORITY.
7:09:17PM MAINTENANCE INSTEAD OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.
7:09:18PM LARGE UNPROVEN PROJECTS ARE A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
7:09:24PM INCREASED COST AND SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTION OF THOSE COSTS.
7:09:28PM THEY END UP BEING DISPROPORTIONALLY EXPENSIVE.
7:09:31PM MINIMIZE THE LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
7:09:34PM FOCUS ON HORIZONTAL INSTEAD OF VERTICAL.
7:09:38PM PROVIDE STORMWATER SURGE PROTECTION FROM THESE OUTLETS.
7:09:40PM THEY ARE NOT PROTECTED.
7:09:42PM INSTALL REDUNDANT PUMPS AND BACKUP POWER FOR PROTECTING FROM
7:09:47PM THE WEATHER.
7:09:47PM WEATHER HARDEN AND PROTECT FIRE AND POLICE RESCUE STATIONS.
7:09:51PM INVEST IN ADEQUATE STORMWATER RESCUE AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES
7:09:55PM FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
7:09:57PM INVEST IN THE SUFFICIENT CANAL AND DITCH MAINTENANCE
7:09:59PM EQUIPMENT, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE.
7:10:01PM SEPARATE THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT INTO ITS OWN DEPARTMENT.
7:10:04PM DIVIDE THIS HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR ANTICIPATED EXPENSE FOR
7:10:10PM SOUTH HOWARD INTO TEN NEIGHBORHOOD AREA-WIDE PROJECTS WHERE
7:10:13PM YOU WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
7:10:15PM NO ADDITIONAL BONDS SHOULD BE ISSUED FOR CAPITAL NEEDS
7:10:19PM UNLESS THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
7:10:21PM CONSIDER PROVIDING NEW PROJECTS TO INSTALL STORMWATER
7:10:26PM SYSTEMS WHERE THEY CAN -- AN IMPACT WHERE THEY CAN BE
7:10:34PM SIGNIFICANT.
7:10:34PM WHAT PORTION OF THE BUDGET IS BENEFICIALLY ALLOCATED FOR
7:10:38PM SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING AND THE RELIEF PROJECT.
7:10:40PM I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES REAL QUICK.
7:10:43PM THIS IS THE POND ON SWANN.
7:10:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WAS QUICK.
7:10:47PM THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
7:10:50PM >> THIS IS WHY MAINTENANCE IS IMPORTANT.
7:10:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ADAM HARDEN FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR.
7:11:02PM >> ADAM HARDEN.
7:11:03PM I'M A RESIDENT IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
7:11:07PM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SERVICE.
7:11:09PM APPRECIATE IT.
7:11:10PM IT'S NEVER BEEN TO A BUDGET HEARING BUT INTERESTING TO SEE
7:11:15PM AS PART OF YOUR JOBS.
7:11:16PM CHARLIE ADAMS WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW HE'S IN SPIRIT.
7:11:20PM HE'S AT WORK.
7:11:21PM HE WOULD BE HERE TO GIVE HIS SUPPORT TO COUNCILWOMAN
7:11:24PM HURTAK'S CONCEPT OF SHIFTING A PORTION OF THE BUDGET FUNDS
7:11:28PM TO THE MISSING TRAIL CONNECTION IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
7:11:32PM I COINCIDENTALLY WENT ON A 24-MILE BIKE RIDE ON MY GRAVEL
7:11:37PM BIKE.
7:11:38PM THE ROUTE I TAKE THROUGH TOWER PARK THIS WEEKEND A NEW FENCE
7:11:44PM IS BLOCKING THE WAY UNDER THE INTERSTATE.
7:11:46PM MORE TO COME.
7:11:48PM VERY TIMELY CONCEPT.
7:11:50PM IT WAS SURPRISING TO REALIZE THAT SEGMENT D ENDS ON THE
7:11:56PM SOUTH SIDE OF THE NEBRASKA BRIDGE AND SEGMENT E STARTS ON
7:12:01PM THE WEST SIDE OF FLORIDA AVENUE NEAR PURITY SPRINGS.
7:12:09PM I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
7:12:10PM I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
7:12:12PM I'LL USE IT.
7:12:14PM I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU PASS IT.
7:12:15PM ADDITIONALLY, I SPENT FOUR YEARS ON HILLSBOROUGH AREA
7:12:20PM REGIONAL TRANSIT BOARD.
7:12:22PM THE ROUTE ONE TEST I THINK IS PROVEN TO BE HIGHLY
7:12:26PM SUCCESSFUL.
7:12:26PM CHANGING STRATEGY TO SHIFT 1.35 MILLION TO SUPPORT THAT
7:12:36PM INCREASED FREQUENCY AND PUTTING THE FARE BACK IN PLACE I
7:12:39PM THINK WILL BE THE NEXT STEP IN PROVING THAT UP AS BRT ROUTE.
7:12:43PM I THINK THAT IS -- THAT IS THE NEXT STEP IN CONNECTING OR
7:12:51PM REALLY EDUCATION -- AROUND THE UNIVERSITY, THE MEDICAL
7:12:55PM COMPLEX OUT THERE WITH THE VA AND THE HOSPITALS TO DOWNTOWN.
7:12:59PM BOTH THOSE THINGS, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL GIVE YOUR UNANIMOUS
7:13:03PM AND FULL-THREADED SUPPORT TO.
7:13:05PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE AGAIN.
7:13:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
7:13:08PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
7:13:11PM ARE YOU STEPHANIE POYNOR TONIGHT?
7:13:13PM HI, STEPHANIE.
7:13:14PM >> WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH.
7:13:18PM ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE.
7:13:20PM GOOD EVENING.
7:13:21PM FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A GREAT, GREAT
7:13:25PM COMMITTEE, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY BUDGET COMMITTEE, I MEAN,
7:13:32PM WE'VE MET THREE TIMES THIS MONTH.
7:13:36PM BEFORE LABOR DAY, MET BEFORE LABOR DAY WEEKEND, MET FOR FOUR
7:13:40PM HOURS.
7:13:40PM THIS IS A VERY ENGAGED GROUP.
7:13:42PM I'M HONORED TO SERVE WITH THEM.
7:13:44PM WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH HAGAR AND MIKE.
7:13:47PM MIKE BEING A STRAIGHT SHOOTER.
7:13:51PM TWO THINGS REAL QUICK.
7:13:53PM NUMBER ONE IS PROPERTY TAX HISTORY OF THIS CITY.
7:14:02PM 2023, 15.8.
7:14:05PM 2024, 11.6.
7:14:07PM 2025, 6%.
7:14:10PM 7.4%.
7:14:15PM THE CAPITAL MARKETS ARE FROZEN RIGHT NOW ON ANYTHING BEING
7:14:19PM BUILT THAT'S BIG.
7:14:19PM WHAT'S BUILT HAS BEEN IN THE PIPELINE.
7:14:24PM THE POINT IS WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE BECAUSE TIMES ARE GOING
7:14:28PM TO GET TOUGH.
7:14:28PM YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN
7:14:31PM THE PAST, AND WE'VE GOT TO BE PROACTIVE.
7:14:36PM THE SECOND ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO HIT IS WE HAVE CONCERNS
7:14:39PM WITH PEER COMPARISONS THAT WE SEE.
7:14:41PM IF I -- IN MY BUSINESS, IF I COMPARE MYSELF TO C PLAYERS OR
7:14:45PM D PLAYERS, I'M GOING TO LOOK PRETTY GOOD.
7:14:47PM WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEER COMPARISONS YOU SEE ON THE
7:14:51PM MILLAGE RATES THAT WAS PRESENTED AND ALSO -- AND WE'LL BE
7:14:56PM DOING A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS.
7:14:58PM BUT VERY CONCERNED ABOUT PEER COMPARISONS.
7:15:00PM LIKE I SAID, IF YOU COMPARE YOURSELF AGAINST C PLAYERS YOU
7:15:03PM ARE ALWAYS GOING TO LOOK GOOD.
7:15:05PM SO THAT'S MY TWO ISSUES REAL QUICK.
7:15:08PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OPEN FOR THAT.
7:15:12PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:15:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. SCAGLIONE, APPRECIATE IT.
7:15:16PM THE NEXT ONE IS A CHALLENGE FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY
7:15:17PM READ IT. I THINK IT'S A-D-N-I-A -- SAY YOUR NAME SO I CAN
7:15:27PM LEARN IT.
7:15:29PM >> MY HANDWRITING IS HORRIBLE.
7:15:34PM MY NAME IS ADRIA CURIOSO.
7:15:39PM I AM A TAMPA CITIZEN, BORN AND RAISED.
7:15:42PM I VOLUNTEER WITH THE TRANSIT NOW TAMPA BAY COALITION, BUT I
7:15:46PM AM FIRST AND FOREMOST A TAMPA CITIZEN.
7:15:48PM I WOULD LIKE TO START BY THANKING THE BOARD FOR HELPING FUND
7:15:53PM PUBLIC TRANSIT.
7:15:55PM I TAKE THE ONE EVERY DAY TO WORK IN THE MORNING.
7:15:58PM SO IT HAS GREATLY IMPACTED MY LIFE.
7:16:01PM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
7:16:04PM I WORK AS A BEHAVIOR THERAPIST WITH KIDS WITH AUTISM.
7:16:11PM I'VE WORKED WITH KIDS IN GENERAL AS A PARA IN THE PAST WITH
7:16:16PM ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISABILITIES.
7:16:17PM THIS BUDGET MEETING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
7:16:20PM AS BOTH A TAMPA CITIZEN AND A PERSON WHO WORKS WITH
7:16:23PM INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WHO WILL GROW UP ONE DAY TO
7:16:26PM BECOME CITIZENS.
7:16:27PM AND ADULTS.
7:16:31PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEND THEM INTO A CITY THAT IS DESIGNED TO
7:16:35PM HELP THEM AND NOT JUST HELP THEM BUT ALLOW THEM TO THRIVE.
7:16:39PM I THINK IN A LOT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, I'M NOT A
7:16:44PM STATISTICAL ANALYST OF ANY KIND, BUT I AM A PERSON WHO WORKS
7:16:47PM WITH HUMANS.
7:16:48PM I THINK SOMETIMES WE MISS THE HUMAN ELEMENT HERE.
7:16:52PM NUMBERS ON A SPREADSHEET ARE IMPORTANT TO SOMEONE,
7:16:56PM SOMEWHERE, BUT I GET TO SEE THE EFFECTS OF OUR CITY AND HOW
7:17:00PM IT IS PLANNED IN REAL TIME AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS
7:17:04PM OF THAT, WORKING WITH KIDS AND SEEING THE CITY AND WHAT
7:17:08PM WE'RE GOING TO SEND THEM INTO.
7:17:10PM I DO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.
7:17:14PM BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH HOW WE'VE BUILT THE CITY.
7:17:20PM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A BETTER TIME IN THE CITY, IF
7:17:26PM WE CATER TO THOSE OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE.
7:17:30PM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, BUT I'M NOT THE
7:17:36PM SMARTEST PERSON TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU HELP
7:17:41PM THOSE THAT ARE AT THE BOTTOM, IT AFFECTS EVERYONE IN WAYS
7:17:45PM THAT YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT, LIKE ADDING A RAMP TO A CURB, HOW
7:17:51PM THAT IS MOSTLY THERE FOR WHEELCHAIR USERS, BUT IT ALSO HELPS
7:17:54PM PEOPLE WITH STROLLERS OR PEOPLE THAT NEED MOBILITY AIDES,
7:17:58PM GUIDE CANES SOMETHING LIKE THAT, NOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A
7:18:02PM CURB TO STEP OVER, LESS OF A HEALTH HAZARD.
7:18:05PM THAT MENTALITY OF HELPING PEOPLE IN THIS ONE WAY, AFFECTING
7:18:10PM PEOPLE EVEN IN WAYS YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT CAN APPLY TO SO MANY
7:18:13PM OTHER THINGS.
7:18:14PM I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE US ALL TO KEEP IN MIND THE HUMAN
7:18:18PM ELEMENT WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS AND NOT JUST FOCUS SO
7:18:21PM MUCH ON THE NUMBERS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE
7:18:24PM HUMANS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
7:18:26PM THANK YOU.
7:18:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY.
7:18:28PM THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN ARROYO FOLLOWED BY CONNIE BURTON.
7:18:32PM FRAN TATE, YOU WILL BE FOUR MORE.
7:18:42PM >> MY NAME IS JOHN ARROYO.
7:18:44PM COFOUNDER OF THE SKILL CENTER.
7:18:47PM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
7:18:50PM IT IS MY FIRST TIME BEING HERE.
7:18:51PM JUST HEARING ABOUT EVERYTHING, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
7:18:54PM WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT WHAT WE DO
7:18:58PM FOR THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY.
7:18:59PM IN OUR FIRST YEAR OF OPERATION, THE CENTER IS MAKING A MAJOR
7:19:03PM IMPACT WITH YOUNG PEOPLE.
7:19:05PM NOT ONLY YOUNG PEOPLE, THE FAMILIES, THE SENIORS.
7:19:08PM WE SERVED OVER 5,000 GUESTS IN PROGRAMS, EVENTS AND EVEN
7:19:12PM TOURNAMENTS THIS PAST YEAR.
7:19:14PM OUR BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THE SKILL CENTER, WE'RE TRYING TO
7:19:18PM ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL, WANT TO BRING IN ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL
7:19:20PM IMPACT AS WE IMPROVE THE LIVES OF YOUNG PEOPLE WITHIN THEIR
7:19:24PM FAMILIES.
7:19:24PM WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THE FUNDING OF THE FACILITY
7:19:28PM ENHANCEMENTS.
7:19:28PM FOR 18 YEARS NOW, WE'VE BEEN AROUND.
7:19:31PM WE HAVE PROVIDED FREE AFTER-SCHOOL AND SUMMER PROGRAMS FOR
7:19:34PM ALL KIDS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY LIVE.
7:19:37PM OUR SPORTS PROGRAMS ARE PROVIDED AT A REDUCED RATE.
7:19:39PM WE NEVER TURN AWAY A KID NO MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE, NO
7:19:43PM MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MAKE.
7:19:45PM WE ALWAYS DO IT INDIVIDUALLY AS CIRCUMSTANCES.
7:19:49PM THE CENTER WAS OPEN FROM 7 A.M. ALL THE WAY TO 10:30 P.M.
7:19:52PM WE PROVIDED HOURS FOR THE WEEKENDS.
7:19:55PM WE OFFERED FREE EIGHT-WEEK SUMMER PROGRAM FOR OVER 300
7:19:59PM YOUTH, FREE LUNCH, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL YOUTH PARTICIPATED
7:20:02PM IN E SPORTS, CODING, ROBOTICS, 3D PRINTING, VR, HEALTH AND
7:20:07PM FITNESS, SPORTS LIFE SKILLS, CULINARY ARTS, PERSONAL GROWTH
7:20:11PM WORKSHOPS, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, CAREER EXPLORATION AND SO
7:20:14PM ON.
7:20:14PM WE ALSO DO A LOT OF GENDER SPECIFIC PROGRAMMING.
7:20:17PM WE HAVE AN ALL GIRLS PROGRAM, WHETHER SPORTS NUTRITION,
7:20:20PM HEALTH.
7:20:21PM WE ALSO DID A PROGRAM WHERE WE PROVIDED A WHEELCHAIR SOCCER
7:20:26PM FOR INDIVIDUALS.
7:20:29PM OUR PROGRAMMING IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
7:20:31PM WE CHOSE A SPECIFIC LOCATION TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN
7:20:35PM COME AND CAN AFFORD IT.
7:20:37PM IT WASN'T -- OUR SPORTS PROGRAMS.
7:20:42PM CAMPS FOR ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE SCHOOL, YOUTH.
7:20:45PM APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED PAID ACTIVITY, HOWEVER WE DON'T TURN
7:20:48PM A CHILD AWAY.
7:20:50PM WE ALSO OFFERED FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS SUMMER HOURS FOR
7:20:54PM HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.
7:20:55PM A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S NOTHING TO DO FOR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS
7:20:58PM DURING THE SUMMER TIME.
7:20:59PM WE WERE THERE.
7:21:00PM WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STUDENTS, HEY, TIME TO LEAVE.
7:21:03PM IT'S 11:00 AT NIGHT.
7:21:04PM IT WAS FULFILLING.
7:21:05PM WE DON'T DO THIS FOR A JOB AS A PURPOSE, AS A PASSION.
7:21:09PM THAT'S WHY WE CREATED THE SKILL CENTER.
7:21:11PM ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE PROVIDED WAS A BASKETBALL CLINIC FOR
7:21:14PM YOUTH WITH DOWN SYNDROME.
7:21:16PM IT WAS FREE FOR ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY FOR YOUTH AND ADULTS.
7:21:19PM THANK YOU.
7:21:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:21:21PM CONNIE BURTON FOLLOWED BY ANNELIESE MEIER.
7:21:27PM >> CONNIE BURTON.
7:21:30PM I WANT TO THANK YOU, ALAN, FOR YOUR CONTINUAL SUPPORT OF
7:21:35PM DIANE JOHNSON.
7:21:36PM SHE'S BEEN A VALUABLE RESOURCE TO PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT'S
7:21:40PM CALLING ALL THE TIME.
7:21:42PM I'M REALLY ON THE EDGE BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT'S GOING ON IN
7:21:47PM THIS COUNTRY AND THINGS THAT I SEE IN THIS CITY THAT I'M
7:21:51PM REFLECTING ON, SUN-DOWN TOWN, BUT A SUN-DOWN COUNTRY.
7:21:59PM THAT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE FEELING THE EFFECTS OF BEING UNDER
7:22:01PM THE MICROSCOPE ALL THE TIME.
7:22:07PM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DISABILITY, IT MEANS A PHYSICAL OR
7:22:10PM MENTAL CONDITION THAT LIMITS A PERSON'S MOVEMENT, SENSE OR
7:22:14PM ACTIVITY.
7:22:14PM YOU KNOW WHAT NEXT TO THAT, POVERTY.
7:22:17PM BECAUSE IF PEOPLE COULD GET OUT OF POVERTY, THEY COULD DO
7:22:20PM FOR THEMSELVES.
7:22:21PM THIS LITTLE BIT OF STUFF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING, IT
7:22:24PM MIGHT WORK FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RUN JOB, BE ON THEIR
7:22:28PM BICYCLE, BUT THE PEOPLE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS BEEN WAITING TOO
7:22:31PM DAMN LONG.
7:22:32PM THE PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA BEEN WAITING TOO DAMN LONG.
7:22:36PM $1.95 BILLION BUDGET, AND YOU GIVE THE COMMUNITY SO VERY
7:22:42PM LITTLE.
7:22:43PM YOU WANT THIS TO BE A GREAT CITY.
7:22:45PM GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO IN LIFTING THE PEOPLE AT THE VERY
7:22:51PM BOTTOM UP.
7:22:52PM AT LEAST HALFWAY TO YOUR KNEE.
7:22:54PM 2023, I WANT TO SAY THIS AND GET THIS ON THE RECORD.
7:22:57PM THE NAACP DID NOT GET ITS FULL AMOUNT FOR 2023.
7:23:03PM 2025, AND NOW YOU'RE WORKING ON 2026 BUDGET.
7:23:06PM WHERE IS THE PEOPLE'S MONEY?
7:23:08PM I WISH JOHN BENNETT WAS STILL HERE.
7:23:12PM OCEA WYNN WAS STILL HERE.
7:23:14PM I DON'T LIKE TALKING BEHIND NOBODY'S BACK.
7:23:17PM THE NAACP HAS NOT N-O-T GOTTEN ITS MONEY AS YOU TALK ABOUT
7:23:23PM THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING TO LIFT
7:23:28PM OUR COMMUNITY.
7:23:28PM WHAT THE NAACP DO GET IS A LOT OF BACKLASH FROM THE
7:23:34PM ASSUMPTION OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THOSE WHISPERING IN
7:23:37PM PEOPLE'S EAR THAT THE NAACP NEED TO BE UNDER SOME KIND OF
7:23:41PM AUDIT.
7:23:42PM AUDIT FOR WHAT.
7:23:43PM THEY AIN'T GOT NO MONEY YET.
7:23:45PM NOW, WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT AND I AIN'T HEARD A CLEAR
7:23:48PM ANSWER OF THE SUMMER JOB PROGRAM.
7:23:51PM WE HAVE ASKED, YOU TOOK IT AWAY FROM THE CRA, THE CITY HAD
7:23:54PM IT LAST YEAR.
7:23:56PM YOU COULDN'T GET UP TO 72 STUDENTS BEING EMPLOYED.
7:24:02PM WE'VE BEEN WAITING TO SEE THAT NUMBER INCREASE.
7:24:05PM THIS YEAR, WE WANT TO SEE OVER A HUNDRED STUDENTS EMPLOYED.
7:24:10PM I GUARANTEE, WHATEVER ENERGY I GOT IN ME, IT'S GOING TO
7:24:13PM PAINT THIS CITY TO REALLY SHOW IT FOR WHAT IT IS.
7:24:17PM A $1.9 BILLION BUDGET AND WE CAN'T GET MORE FOR THE POVERTY
7:24:24PM ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY, SHAME ON YOU.
7:24:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.
7:24:29PM SINCE I KNOW YOU'LL PROBABLY LEAVE, I ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THE
7:24:32PM NAACP 2025 MONEY WITH CHIEF BENNETT THIS EVENING.
7:24:36PM WE SHOULD HAVE AN ANSWER.
7:24:37PM >> THANK YOU.
7:24:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANNELIESE MEIER FOLLOWED BY STEVEN BIRD.
7:24:44PM >> HELLO.
7:24:45PM GOOD EVENING.
7:24:46PM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
7:24:48PM ANNELIESE MEIER, HISTORIC PARKLAND PRESERVATION SOCIETY.
7:24:52PM AS ALWAYS, I'VE BEEN TAKING NOTES, AND IT CHANGES AROUND
7:24:56PM HERE.
7:24:56PM SO BEAR WITH ME.
7:24:58PM I AM HERE TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT STORMWATER.
7:25:03PM I TRULY BELIEVE AS SOMEBODY WHO SOLD UNDERGROUND EQUIPMENT
7:25:07PM TO THE CITY AND WHO ALSO SOLD SMART GRID SYSTEMS ALL OVER
7:25:11PM THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND PUERTO RICO, WE NEED TO TAKE THE
7:25:14PM ENTERPRISE FUNDS AWAY AND PUT THEM SEPARATE AGAIN.
7:25:17PM THEY SHOULD NOT BE COMINGLED WITH ANYTHING ELSE.
7:25:21PM AS FAR AS OUR WATER DEPARTMENT DOING A GOOD JOB, THEY CAN DO
7:25:24PM A BETTER JOB.
7:25:25PM I KNOW.
7:25:26PM I WAS IN THAT BUSINESS FOR 15 YEARS AND I WORKED FOR THE TWO
7:25:30PM TOP WATER MEETER MANUFACTURERS.
7:25:31PM ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT OUR STORMWATER TAX ASSESSMENTS NEED TO
7:25:36PM BE MORE TRANSPARENT.
7:25:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE MONTHLY REPORT THE AMOUNT OF
7:25:41PM MONEY THE TAX COLLECTOR SENDS OVER.
7:25:43PM THEY SEND THOSE MONIES TWICE A MONTH.
7:25:46PM TWICE A MONTH, YET ALL WE HEAR ABOUT IS PERHAPS THE YEARLY
7:25:50PM TOTAL.
7:25:51PM WELL, WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE YEARLY TOTAL IS, BUT
7:25:54PM EVERYBODY PAYS THEIR PROPERTY TAXES AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
7:25:56PM YOU MIGHT BE VERY SURPRISED HOW MUCH COMES OVER EVERY MONTH.
7:25:59PM AGAIN, IT'S TWICE A MONTH.
7:26:01PM I'D LIKE A MOTION BE MADE ON THAT PLEASE, BY ONE OF YOU,
7:26:05PM EITHER TONIGHT OR ON THURSDAY.
7:26:07PM AS FAR AS THE STUDY AREA FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECT,
7:26:11PM I PUT THE CITY IN A THITHER APPARENTLY THE LAST COUPLE OF
7:26:14PM DAYS BECAUSE I ASKED FOR THE STORMWATER MAP SYSTEM JUST OF
7:26:18PM MY AREA IN PALMA CEIA PINES, THE WATERSHED AREAS.
7:26:23PM ESPECIALLY THE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AREA.
7:26:26PM IT'S ON THE CITY VULNERABILITY REPORT THAT THE PUMP AT THAT
7:26:29PM HOSPITAL IS VERY CRITICAL.
7:26:31PM IT'S ALSO ON THE GRANT APPLICATION THAT WE MADE FOR AT THE
7:26:35PM DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FOR THE COASTAL
7:26:38PM RESILIENCY PROJECT, REALIZE THAT BOTH OF THE CONTRACTORS WHO
7:26:42PM ARE HELPING WITH THIS PROJECT HAD NO IDEA WE WON THAT GRANT.
7:26:45PM HAD NO IDEA.
7:26:47PM AND IT JUST GOT UPGRADED AFTER I MENTIONED IT IN THE LAST
7:26:51PM TWO WEEKS.
7:26:51PM THEY FINALLY MADE THE LAST TWO QUARTERLY REPORT, THE CITY
7:26:55PM DID, TO THE STATE.
7:26:56PM THE STATE IS GOING TO LOSE THAT GRANT.
7:26:58PM SO YOU CAN CANCEL OUT $10 MILLION, I GUARANTEE IT.
7:27:02PM THIS PROJECT GO OVER $200 MILLION WITH BUDGETING.
7:27:06PM THAT IS 10%, A LITTLE OVER 10% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET THIS
7:27:10PM YEAR.
7:27:11PM WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS PROJECT.
7:27:14PM THAT AREA NORTH OF SWANN AVENUE NEEDS TO BE STUDIED MORE.
7:27:18PM I SPOKE WITH THE CONTRACTOR TODAY.
7:27:20PM THEY DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO STUDY IT MORE.
7:27:23PM THEY ONLY LOOKED ON PAPER, AND EVERY ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT
7:27:29PM THAT COMPRISED THE JMT REPORT EVEN STATED THAT SWANN AVENUE
7:27:33PM IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
7:27:35PM THE WATER FROM NORTH OF SWANN AVENUE IS THE PROBLEM.
7:27:39PM SO WHY AREN'T WE ADDRESSING THAT AREA?
7:27:42PM YOU'VE GOT TWO PONDS UP THERE THAT AREN'T WORKING PROPERLY.
7:27:46PM DO NOT FUND THIS PROJECT UNTIL YOU GET MORE INFORMATION.
7:27:50PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:27:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, ANNELIESE.
7:27:53PM STEVE BIRD FOLLOWED BY FRAN TATE.
7:28:02PM >> I'M STEVE BIRD.
7:28:05PM I RESIDE AT 810 EAST SKAGWAY, RIGHT IN THE THICK OF THINGS
7:28:12PM IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
7:28:12PM I APPRECIATE THE TONE.
7:28:15PM I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS.
7:28:20PM A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS.
7:28:22PM PROBABLY A LITTLE LATE, I HAVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS.
7:28:27PM STEPHANIE DIDN'T WANT MY MINUTES, SO YOU GET --
7:28:33PM IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, YOU TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
7:28:45PM NOBODY IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
7:28:49PM 40 PEOPLE GETTING ASSISTANCE.
7:28:52PM THAT IS THE WHOLE CITY I THINK, PROBABLY.
7:28:54PM 40 PEOPLE.
7:28:56PM THE MARKET HAS TO DO IT.
7:28:58PM YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WAY FOR THE MARKET TO DO IT.
7:29:01PM WE COULD USE ADUs THERE.
7:29:05PM THERE'S NO REASON THAT THERE IS A MAP AND IT ENDS HERE AND
7:29:09PM NOW WE CAN'T HAVE ANYBODY LIVING IN OUR BACKYARD OR ANYTHING
7:29:12PM ELSE.
7:29:12PM THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
7:29:16PM THE MARKET WILL TAKE CARE OF IT IF YOU SAID GO AHEAD AND DO
7:29:19PM THIS.
7:29:19PM WE'VE GOT PEOPLE, THEY ARE LIVING IN THE BACKYARDS.
7:29:22PM IT'S NOT LEGAL, BUT THEY ARE DOING IT.
7:29:25PM WE NEED MULTIROOM APARTMENTS, NOT MORE STUDIOS.
7:29:32PM THAT'S WHAT THE MARKET IS GOING TO PUT UP.
7:29:35PM WE'RE GOING TO BE -- THE PEOPLE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS ARE SEEN
7:29:39PM AS BROKEN CONSUMERS.
7:29:42PM THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.
7:29:44PM THEY NEED TO STAY THERE, NOT BE PUSHED OUT OF THE WAY BY THE
7:29:47PM NEXT HUGE DEVELOPMENT.
7:29:51PM THE PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP IS WHAT WAS THERE AND NEEDS TO BE
7:29:55PM BACK.
7:29:55PM THAT'S ALL I GOT.
7:30:01PM THANKS.
7:30:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, STEVEN.
7:30:03PM FRAN TATE FOLLOWED BY ROBIN LOCKETT.
7:30:07PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND CHAIR.
7:30:11PM FRAN TATE, PRESIDENT OF JACKSON HEIGHTS.
7:30:15PM EX OFFICIO MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA, CAC, AND TRANSIT
7:30:21PM NOW MEMBER.
7:30:21PM GOOD EVENING.
7:30:22PM I HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, SURE I WON'T COVER IT ALL IN
7:30:27PM THREE MINUTES.
7:30:28PM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT ROUTE
7:30:33PM ONE WILL CONTINUE ON.
7:30:34PM STILL WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR ROUTE FIVE OR ROUTE 32.
7:30:38PM I'LL KEEP ADVOCATING FOR EITHER ONE OF THOSE.
7:30:40PM I'M ELATED.
7:30:46PM MS. ROBIN, YOU DID YOUR JOB.
7:30:48PM YOU WERE VERY, VERY PERMANENT CONCERNING THE YELLOW JACKETS.
7:30:53PM I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW VERY, VERY PERMANENT ABOUT A GROCERY
7:30:57PM STORE IN MY AREA.
7:30:59PM WE ARE IN A FOOD DESERT.
7:31:02PM I'VE BEEN THERE 20 YEARS.
7:31:03PM I'M GOING TO BE VERY PERMANENT AND VERY VOCAL ABOUT A
7:31:06PM GROCERY STORE.
7:31:08PM LET'S SEE, ITEM NUMBER 2, THE PLAYGROUNDS WITH THE ADA
7:31:15PM EQUIPMENT, YES.
7:31:17PM AS I SERVED AS CHAIR, WE WENT TO THE FRA CONFERENCE.
7:31:22PM I GOT A CHANCE TO TOUR ONE OF THE PLAYGROUNDS IN
7:31:25PM JACKSONVILLE BEACH AREA.
7:31:28PM AWESOME.
7:31:28PM AWESOME ADA EQUIPMENT.
7:31:29PM JUST BEAUTIFUL.
7:31:31PM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT ON ALL OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS,
7:31:34PM ABSOLUTELY.
7:31:34PM ITEM NUMBER 3, SULPHUR SPRINGS.
7:31:38PM I'M GOING TO STAY VOCAL.
7:31:41PM I'M GOING TO STAY CONSISTENT OUT THERE.
7:31:43PM I KNOW SENIORS OUT THERE, AND I WANT TO PLANT MYSELF OUT
7:31:46PM THERE TO HELP THEM.
7:31:47PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET A CRA, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT
7:31:51PM THE FUNDS GOING OUT THERE, I WANT TO HELP THEM AS MUCH AS I
7:31:54PM CAN AS A COMMUNITY ADVOCATE.
7:31:56PM ITEM NUMBER -- OH, RETURNING CITIZENS.
7:32:03PM ABSOLUTELY.
7:32:03PM RETURNING CITIZENS.
7:32:05PM MY BROTHER, A RETURNING CITIZEN IN NEW YORK.
7:32:08PM HE'S DOING FANTASTIC.
7:32:10PM HE'S DOING FANTASTIC.
7:32:11PM LIVING PLACE, GOT A PLACE TO LIVE.
7:32:15PM HE HAS A JOB.
7:32:16PM HIS SON IS DOING JUST FINE.
7:32:18PM I WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN HERE WITH OUR RETURNING CITIZENS.
7:32:22PM I KNOW WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GREAT.
7:32:26PM I KNOW WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
7:32:28PM THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SKILL CENTER.
7:32:30PM I WAS HERE LAST TIME TALKING ABOUT THE SKILL CENTER.
7:32:33PM I DON'T MIND ALLOCATING FUNDING, BUT NOT THE FUNDING THAT
7:32:39PM THEY ARE ASKING FOR BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, AS I WAS THE
7:32:43PM CHAIR, THEY PROMISED, WASN'T ON PAPER, BUT THEY SAID THEY
7:32:48PM WOULD ALLOCATE VOUCHERS FOR 33610 AND 33605 CHILDREN, NOT
7:32:54PM EVERYBODY CAN ATTEND THAT SKILL CENTER, BUT THEY ALL NEED TO
7:32:58PM ATTEND IT TO KEEP THEM OFF THE STREETS.
7:33:00PM SO THEY GOT TO DO BETTER.
7:33:04PM THEY GOT TO GIVE US WHAT THEY PROMISED US.
7:33:06PM IT WASN'T IN WRITING.
7:33:08PM A HAND SHAKE IS WELL ENOUGH.
7:33:09PM A VERBAL IS WELL ENOUGH.
7:33:11PM MAKE IT HAPPEN.
7:33:12PM THANK YOU.
7:33:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. TATE.
7:33:15PM ROBIN LOCKETT, BRING IT HOME.
7:33:22PM >> YOU MAKE ME COUGH.
7:33:23PM HELLO, COUNCIL.
7:33:26PM ROBIN LOCKETT.
7:33:29PM TWO THINGS I WANT TO COVER.
7:33:30PM FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WORKING AND LISTENING TO
7:33:35PM MY PLEAS ABOUT THE YELLOW JACKETS.
7:33:37PM I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND MAKING IT WORK.
7:33:39PM I WANT TO THANK MS. KOPESKY.
7:33:42PM FOR WORKING WITH ME ALSO.
7:33:46PM SO THAT'S ONE THING.
7:33:48PM I SUPPORT THE SKILLS CENTER.
7:33:51PM AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID, THEY DON'T TURN ANYONE AWAY, RIGHT?
7:33:55PM MEANING THAT EVERYONE CAN ATTEND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE
7:33:58PM MONEY AND SO FORTH.
7:33:59PM THEY DON'T TURN ANYONE AWAY.
7:34:03PM I SUPPORT, I THINK, THE MATCH FUNDS, WHATEVER.
7:34:05PM I SUPPORT THAT IN DEALING WITH THE SKILL CENTER.
7:34:08PM I THINK IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
7:34:10PM I THINK IN LISTENING TO ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY
7:34:13PM OUTLINE, IT'S GREAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
7:34:16PM I SUPPORT THEM.
7:34:17PM AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE APPROVED WITH THE
7:34:22PM YELLOW JACKETS.
7:34:24PM THAT LEAGUE NEEDS IT.
7:34:26PM YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH TO MAKING IT WHOLE.
7:34:31PM WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES OF IT.
7:34:33PM I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
7:34:34PM THANKS.
7:34:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
7:35:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SPOKESPERSON POYNOR HAS TWO NAMES.
7:35:06PM NO FIRST NAME.
7:35:08PM BUT THAT'S OKAY.
7:35:09PM WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
7:35:11PM MR. NICK STOCCO HERE?
7:35:13PM THANK YOU.
7:35:15PM IS WALTER HILL HERE?
7:35:17PM THANK YOU.
7:35:19PM TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
7:35:24PM >> GOOD EVENING.
7:35:24PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
7:35:26PM I ALSO WANT TO SING THE PRAISES OF DARLENE JOHNSON.
7:35:30PM SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AMAZING.
7:35:33PM IF SHE WOULD HAVE RAN FOR THE SEAT, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE
7:35:36PM VOTED FOR HER.
7:35:37PM I CAN'T.
7:35:38PM ANYWAY.
7:35:39PM ADA FUNDING FOR PARKS, HOW MUCH IS COMING OUT OF THE CRA?
7:35:42PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THOSE TWO NUMBERS LOOK LIKE
7:35:45PM TOGETHER FOR THEIR PARKS.
7:35:47PM I WOULD ECHO THAT WE NEED TO SPEND THAT MONEY IN AREAS THAT
7:35:50PM DON'T HAVE CRA FUNDING, BUT WE CAN MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS.
7:35:54PM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
7:35:55PM GOOD TO SEE A STEP FORWARD.
7:35:59PM I HOPE THAT THE SPENDING LIST WILL BE DISTRIBUTED IN
7:36:01PM OnBase BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE NUMBERS CAME
7:36:04PM FROM AND HOW THEY WERE GENERATED.
7:36:06PM THE $18 MILLION SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, BUT 13 MILLION OF IT IS
7:36:09PM WASTEWATER, A WASTEWATER PROJECT, THAT'S ALL THAT IS ON THE
7:36:14PM SLIDE.
7:36:14PM THAT'S ALL I CAN SEE.
7:36:16PM A SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS, WHY WOULD WE HAVE ACCOUNTS
7:36:22PM SITTING IN THE BUDGET THAT DON'T HAVE ALLOCATIONS FOR THEM?
7:36:26PM THAT'S $400,000 AND IT'S GOING TO GO TO A GOOD PLACE.
7:36:30PM HOW MANY MORE OF THOSE ACCOUNTS ARE SITTING OUT THERE?
7:36:32PM SOMEBODY SHOULD MAKE A MOTION AND ASK.
7:36:35PM HOUSING, SPEND IT IN A TIMELY MANNER.
7:36:38PM ALSO, IN ALL THE DISTRICTS, NOT JUST ONE OR TWO, SOCIAL ARTS
7:36:45PM IN ACTION.
7:36:45PM MAKES MY HEAD EXPLODE.
7:36:47PM I NOTICED YOU GUYS ASKED TO INCREASE THE MONEY, BUT DIVEST
7:36:51PM THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT FUND.
7:36:53PM KIND OF CONFUSING TO ME.
7:36:55PM ROUTE ONE, PLEASE PUT A DATE ON THE MOTION WHERE THE
7:36:59PM RESOLUTION WOULD GO TO HART BY SUCH AND SUCH A DATE.
7:37:02PM I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS, HERE WE ARE, IT IS THE END OF
7:37:05PM SEPTEMBER AND NAACP DOESN'T HAVE THEIR MONEY FROM FY '25.
7:37:09PM SEEMS LIKE ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THIS DAIS GETS SLOW
7:37:13PM ROLLED AND MAYBE SOMETIME IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS WE MIGHT SEE
7:37:16PM IT DONE.
7:37:17PM THE YELLOW JACKETS, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE RELATED GROUP
7:37:21PM CONTRIBUTE MONEY TO THE YELLOW JACKETS SINCE THEY HAVE TAKEN
7:37:23PM AWAY THEIR LAND AND HAVEN'T DONE JACK WITH IT SINCE 2021.
7:37:27PM OUR DEBT TO REVENUE, IS THIS BEFORE THE RECENT REIMBURSEMENT
7:37:33PM RESOLUTION OR AFTER?
7:37:34PM DON'T KNOW.
7:37:36PM WASN'T MENTIONED.
7:37:37PM THE THEME TONIGHT SEEMS TO BE STOP SPENDING ON WANTS AND
7:37:41PM CONCENTRATE ON OUR NEEDS.
7:37:42PM SULPHUR SPRINGS DOES NOT NEED A CRA, IN MY OPINION,
7:37:47PM ESPECIALLY WHAT I GOT TOLD LAST NIGHT ABOUT THE FRANKLIN
7:37:51PM STREET PROJECT THAT THE CRA BOARD APPROVED LAST NOVEMBER.
7:37:55PM IT HASN'T COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THAT MONEY TO BE
7:38:01PM SPENT.
7:38:01PM WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?
7:38:02PM WHY IS THERE A SLOW ROLL?
7:38:04PM I DON'T EVEN LIKE THE PROJECT, BUT PEOPLE CALL ME AND ASK ME
7:38:07PM QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THE MONEY HASN'T BEEN SPENT?
7:38:10PM IF WE DON'T PUT DEADLINES ON THE EXPECTATION OF THIS
7:38:13PM SPENDING, THEN THEY WILL SLOW ROLL IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
7:38:16PM IF YOU GIVE NAACP MONEY THIS YEAR, THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE A
7:38:19PM DEADLINE WHERE THE FUNDS GO OUT.
7:38:22PM OH, TRANSPORTATION.
7:38:25PM I AM ALL FOR SPENDING MONEY ON TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE I
7:38:28PM DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN PUT THE HOUSING GENIE BACK IN THE
7:38:32PM BOTTLE.
7:38:33PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT ONE OF THE
7:38:35PM BOCC MEMBERS SUGGESTED A WEEK AGO AT A MEETING I WAS AT.
7:38:40PM HE WANTS TO DUMP HART ON THE CITY OF TAMPA.
7:38:43PM WHEN I ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD SEND THE MONEY ALONG WITH IT,
7:38:46PM HE HEMMED AND HAWED ABOUT IT, OH, YOU CAN DO THIS AND DO
7:38:49PM THAT.
7:38:50PM NO, NO.
7:38:50PM WHY IS THAT GUY ON THE TPO TO START WITH?
7:38:54PM IF HE DOESN'T CARE ANYTHING ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSIT OR POOR
7:38:57PM PEOPLE FOR THAT MATTER, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I STOOD UP AND
7:39:00PM ASKED HIM.
7:39:00PM I'M SORRY, DO YOU NOT CARE ABOUT POOR PEOPLE?
7:39:02PM HONESTLY, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SHRINKING HART, THAT'S WHAT
7:39:08PM YOU'RE DOING.
7:39:08PM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMEBODY COME AND SPEAK PUBLICLY WITH
7:39:12PM THE REAL NUMBERS BECAUSE HE SAID ONLY 7,000 PEOPLE A YEAR
7:39:16PM RIDE HART.
7:39:17PM I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT CAN'T POSSIBLY BE TRUE
7:39:21PM BECAUSE ROUTE ONE IN THE MONTH OF JUNE ALONE HAD 5700
7:39:26PM RIDERS.
7:39:26PM DO YOU THE MATH.
7:39:28PM I KNOW I DID.
7:39:29PM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IS MUCH, MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE SINCE
7:39:34PM COUNCIL HAS REINED IN THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
7:39:37PM SINCE MARTY HAS BEEN THERE.
7:39:38PM SINCE HAGAR HAS BEEN THERE, IT IS MUCH MORE COHESIVE.
7:39:43PM I JUST WISH EVERYBODY WOULD COME TO ALL THE MEETINGS.
7:39:45PM AND WHEN EVERYBODY COMES THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY
7:39:48PM PARTICIPATE.
7:39:48PM THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CALL IN AND THEY DON'T PAY ANY
7:39:51PM ATTENTION.
7:39:51PM LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED.
7:39:55PM WE HAVE HAD QUARTERLY REPORTS THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES
7:39:59PM FROM STORMWATER THAT SAID ALL OF THE STORMWATER PONDS HAVE
7:40:02PM BEEN ADDRESSED.
7:40:03PM REMEMBER I BROUGHT YOU GUYS THAT LITTLE SPREADSHEET.
7:40:06PM WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, HOW COME THAT PALMA CEIA PINES
7:40:11PM POND HASN'T BEEN CLEANED?
7:40:13PM SOMEBODY IS TELLING A STORY.
7:40:14PM WHO IS IT?
7:40:15PM I DON'T KNOW.
7:40:16PM NOT MY PROBLEM.
7:40:17PM BUT I CERTAINLY WOULD BE ASKING.
7:40:18PM IF YOU CAME AND CLEANED THIS POND, HOW COME WE GOT TWO
7:40:21PM LADIES COMING UP HERE GOING NOBODY HAS CLEANED THIS POND IN
7:40:24PM FOREVER, IN AN AREA THAT FLOODED REPEATEDLY.
7:40:27PM HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
7:40:28PM THANK YOU.
7:40:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
7:40:30PM AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE
7:40:34PM FY '2026 MILLAGE RATE, FY 2026 BUDGET AND FY 2026 THROUGH FY
7:40:41PM 2030 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET AND PROGRAM.
7:40:44PM AT THIS MOMENT, PER COUNCIL'S REQUEST EARLIER IN THE
7:40:48PM EVENING, I AM READY TO TAKE MOTIONS.
7:40:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK TWO QUICK QUESTIONS?
7:40:58PM STAFF.
7:41:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
7:41:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHO FROM STAFF WOULD ANSWER IT,
7:41:05PM BUT MS. BURTON ASKED ABOUT THE SUMMER JOB PROGRAM.
7:41:10PM DOES SOMEBODY KNOW WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT AND WHERE?
7:41:13PM THE OTHER RELATED QUESTION WHILE YOU'RE STANDING UP,
7:41:23PM MS. BURTON ALSO ASKED ME IN THE HALLWAY ABOUT LOANS OR OTHER
7:41:29PM FUNDING FOR PEOPLE TO PUT ADUs IN EAST TAMPA.
7:41:33PM I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE HAVE APPROVED ANY PROGRAMS LIKE THAT.
7:41:35PM DO YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT?
7:41:37PM MAYBE THAT IS A SUBJECT FOR THE CAC IN EAST TAMPA AT SOME
7:41:43PM POINT FOR THE CRA.
7:41:44PM THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
7:41:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I COULD GET THAT FIRST QUESTION AGAIN.
7:41:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SUMMER JOB PROGRAM.
7:41:52PM COULD YOU TELL US, MS. BURTON ASKED THAT QUESTION, HOW MUCH
7:41:55PM MONEY IS IN THERE FOR THAT AND WHERE.
7:42:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE'LL FIND OUT.
7:42:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
7:42:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK?
7:42:04PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
7:42:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS CHART,
7:42:16PM ABOUT THE TENTATIVE SUMMARY OF CHANGES.
7:42:19PM SO IT SAYS ONE WOULD BE DONE FROM THE OCTOBER 2025 FINANCIAL
7:42:26PM RESOLUTION.
7:42:26PM THE YELLOW JACKET CIP THAT MAKES SENSE.
7:42:30PM THAT IS JUST THE MOVING OF MONEY FOR DATES THAT AREN'T THIS
7:42:34PM YEAR.
7:42:34PM BUT THE TBD FOR THE MOVEMENT OF THE MONEY, I'M GUESSING FROM
7:42:44PM THE SOCIAL ACTION ARTS FUND TO OTHERS, THERE'S NO TIMING ON
7:42:51PM THAT.
7:42:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE ADDITIONAL ONES THAT ARE MOVED
7:42:55PM TOO.
7:42:56PM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WILL
7:42:59PM BE MOVING AS WELL.
7:43:00PM THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE LIST.
7:43:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME.
7:43:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO PROBLEM.
7:43:05PM WHEN I DO THIS MOTION, I AM MOVING IT TO THE OCTOBER 2025
7:43:10PM FINANCIAL RESOLUTION.
7:43:11PM OKAY.
7:43:12PM I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M GOING
7:43:15PM TO PUT IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
7:43:16PM I MOVE TO MOVE $150,000 FROM CIP 1002427 TO PAY FOR THE LOOP
7:43:30PM IN THE RIVER TOWER PARK, AND THAT 150, THE EXTRA MONEY TO GO
7:43:36PM TOWARD BENCHES, PICNIC TABLES, TRASH CANS, WHATEVER ELSE
7:43:40PM PARKS WANTS TO PUT IN THERE TO MAKE IT A MORE USER FRIENDLY
7:43:44PM SPACE.
7:43:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
7:43:46PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:43:48PM DOES THIS REQUIRE A ROLL CALL?
7:43:51PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
7:43:57PM OPPOSED?
7:43:58PM THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
7:44:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APOLOGIZE.
7:44:03PM IT SHOULD BE -- THIS MOTION SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE
7:44:06PM OCTOBER 2025 FINANCIAL RESOLUTION.
7:44:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FOR AN AMENDMENT.
7:44:11PM THERE A SECOND?
7:44:12PM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
7:44:13PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
7:44:15PM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
7:44:16PM OPPOSED?
7:44:16PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
7:44:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS THAT IT?
7:44:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, IT IS.
7:44:23PM BECAUSE THE HART ROUTE ONE IS ALREADY ON HERE.
7:44:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
7:44:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: A COUPLE OF QUICK MOTIONS AND I'LL HAVE
7:44:29PM COMMENTS AFTERWARDS.
7:44:30PM NUMBER ONE, MR. ROGERO, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HARD
7:44:34PM WORK.
7:44:35PM FOR THE PORTICO SHOULD I MAKE IT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, A
7:44:39PM MOTION FOR FINANCIAL RESOLUTION TO BE RETURNED AT A DATE
7:44:42PM CERTAIN AT CITY COUNCIL?
7:44:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF NECESSARY.
7:44:46PM IF YOU COULD CAVEAT IT THAT WAY.
7:44:48PM IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY.
7:44:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MAKE A MOTION FOR $100,000 FROM THE HOUSING
7:44:53PM FUND TO THE CITY OF TAMPA TO GO TO THE AFOREMENTIONED
7:44:56PM PORTICO HOUSING PROJECT IF NECESSARY FOR A FINANCIAL
7:45:00PM RESOLUTION TO BE RETURNED --
7:45:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: [INAUDIBLE]
7:45:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE DATE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
7:45:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT WOULD BE IDEAL IF WE COULD HAVE THEM
7:45:15PM ALL TAKE PLACE AT THE SAME TIME THAT WAY THE PUBLIC AND
7:45:18PM COUNCIL COULD HAVE A HOLISTIC VIEW.
7:45:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
7:45:22PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:45:23PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
7:45:24PM OPPOSED.
7:45:25PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
7:45:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY NEXT MOTION IS THE SKILLS CENTER.
7:45:30PM IT APPEARS FROM THE CRA THAT THERE ARE SOME FUNDS THAT CRA
7:45:34PM CAN GIVE TO THE SKILLS CENTER.
7:45:36PM IT APPEARS TO BE ONLY 30 TO 40 THOUSAND.
7:45:38PM NOT A LOT.
7:45:39PM I WISH THERE WAS MORE, BY THE WAY, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY
7:45:42PM IT IS.
7:45:43PM WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE SKILL CENTER
7:45:47PM AND THE AMAZING WORK THEY DO.
7:45:48PM YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, G 3 LIFE
7:45:52PM APPLICATIONS, MEN OF VISION, CDC OF TAMPA YOUTH AND FAMILY
7:45:55PM ENGAGEMENT, GIRLS EMPOWERMENT, MENTALITY FOR SUCCESS, MANY
7:46:00PM ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO REALLY, REALLY GOOD WORK.
7:46:02PM MY CHALLENGE IS, I BELIEVE THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS LOOKING
7:46:05PM AT THAT NEXT WEDNESDAY, I THINK --
7:46:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TOMORROW.
7:46:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: TOMORROW.
7:46:10PM THERE YOU GO.
7:46:11PM SO MY THING IS THAT POTENTIALLY WE CAN HAVE THAT COME BACK
7:46:16PM IN OCTOBER, BUT PERHAPS WE CAN REQUEST MR. ROGERO, GLAD TO
7:46:22PM INQUIRE WITH HIM ON IT, TO SEE IF -- IS THERE -- WHAT IS,
7:46:27PM SIR, THE FASTEST AND THAT COULD BE REASONABLY GIVEN THAT
7:46:30PM INFORMATION TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION SO THAT THEY CAN KNOW
7:46:33PM WHAT, IF ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING?
7:46:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE MOST EXPEDIENT THING, WHETHER IT IS AN
7:46:41PM E-MAIL, MEMO AND THEN WE CAN REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO THE
7:46:43PM COUNTY COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE.
7:46:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS THEN?
7:46:46PM I MAKE A MOTION FOR CITY STAFF TO WORK ON ACQUIRING THE MOST
7:46:51PM AMOUNT OF MONEY, UP TO 250,000 BETWEEN THE CRA, WHICH I'VE
7:46:55PM ALREADY INQUIRED ON AND THEN CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET FOR THE
7:46:58PM SKILLS CENTER UP TO THE QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS AND
7:47:01PM THEN FOR CITY STAFF, TOO, WITH ALL SPEED AND EVERYTHING THAT
7:47:05PM YOU HAVE THERE, REALLY -- TO THE COUNTY.
7:47:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION BUT I
7:47:12PM HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING ON THAT.
7:47:14PM I'M NOT BLAMING THE COMMISSIONERS.
7:47:15PM THIS IS ABOUT THE PAST, EVERY TIME THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO
7:47:19PM SOMETHING, IT'S BASED ON POPULATION.
7:47:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
7:47:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING.
7:47:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHIEF BENNETT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD
7:47:28PM TO THIS?
7:47:30PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
7:47:33PM LITTLE CLARITY.
7:47:34PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU MENTIONED SOME SUBGROUPS THAT WORK
7:47:37PM WITHIN THE SKILL CENTER THAT MAY BE ON OUR LIST OF FUNDING.
7:47:40PM ARE WE ELIGIBLE TO TOTAL THOSE UP TOWARDS THIS 250 AS WELL
7:47:44PM OR ARE YOU TRYING TO PARSE SKILL CENTER SEPARATELY?
7:47:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
7:47:49PM I WAS TALKING ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS THAT BENEFIT FROM THAT
7:47:51PM EFFORT.
7:47:51PM >>JOHN BENNETT: BECAUSE THEY ARE ON HERE.
7:47:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
7:47:54PM MY MOTION IS UP TO THAT LEVEL, IF THE CITY SAYS, HEY, LOOK,
7:47:58PM ALL WE CAN DO IS 120,000 -- MAKING UP A NUMBER -- THAT'S
7:48:01PM FINE.
7:48:01PM JUST WHATEVER CAN BE DONE.
7:48:03PM WE HAVE 30 SOMETHING THOUSAND FROM THE CRA, POTENTIALLY, AND
7:48:08PM WE CAN APPROPRIATE SOME FUNDS.
7:48:10PM AGAIN, JUST THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO.
7:48:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO RIGHT-SET THIS ARGUMENT AND FOR
7:48:16PM CLARIFICATION, WE PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO SET THE $1 MILLION
7:48:24PM GOAL AS FAR AS THIS BUDGET.
7:48:25PM IN THAT ASSUMPTION, IN THE WORK SHEET THAT HAD BEEN
7:48:32PM COMPILED, THE SKILL CENTER HAS BEEN ALLOCATED $20,000.
7:48:35PM SO WHERE WOULD YOU PROPOSE GETTING THE OTHER $230,000?
7:48:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO THE EXPERTS BECAUSE I
7:48:43PM DON'T KNOW.
7:48:44PM I'M JUST BEING HONEST.
7:48:45PM I DON'T KNOW.
7:48:46PM SO THAT'S WHAT MY MOTION IS TO INQUIRE IN POTENTIAL AREAS
7:48:49PM WHERE WE CAN FIND THE MONEY.
7:48:51PM AGAIN, THEY COULD SAY, HEY, LOOK, WE CAN GET ANOTHER $50,000
7:48:54PM FROM X SOURCE, GREAT.
7:48:56PM THEN WE CAN ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS.
7:48:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'VE BEEN ON THE PHONE ALL DAY WITH THEM,
7:49:00PM TOO.
7:49:01PM I CALLED CEDRIC, ALL THE DUE DILIGENT PHONE CALLS AS WELL.
7:49:06PM FINALLY THE LAST CALL, THE BAD NEWS THAT THE MONEY IS JUST
7:49:09PM NOT THERE.
7:49:10PM MR. SHELBY.
7:49:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I INQUIRE, MR. CHAIR?
7:49:14PM A QUESTION FOR MR. VASKE AND MR. ROGERO, IF I CAN.
7:49:20PM WITH REGARD TO THE REQUEST, IT SEEMS SOMEWHAT -- WOULD THIS
7:49:25PM BE SOMETHING THAT COMES BACK IN THE OCTOBER RESOLUTION?
7:49:30PM AND WHAT HAPPENS -- BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
7:49:34PM SPECIFIC DIRECTION OR FUNDING SOURCE THAT COUNCIL IS BEING
7:49:37PM ASKED TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
7:49:40PM SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW HOW BEST TO HANDLE THIS,
7:49:43PM WHETHER IT IS GOING TO APPEAR AND IF IT DOESN'T MEET COUNCIL
7:49:47PM STANDARDS OR IS COUNCIL GOING TO DELEGATE.
7:49:49PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DELEGATE THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
7:49:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
7:49:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY QUICK.
7:49:57PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY FOR THAT.
7:49:59PM AGAIN, MY MOTION COULD BE THAT YOU RELATE WHAT YOU FIND TO
7:50:02PM THE COUNTY.
7:50:03PM AGAIN I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
7:50:05PM COULD BE YOU GO NO MORE MONEY.
7:50:07PM VERY SORRY.
7:50:08PM AND THEN TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL
7:50:11PM RESOLUTION RETURNED TO US IN OCTOBER.
7:50:13PM THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, WHICH IS TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN
7:50:16PM DO, TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO.
7:50:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I COULD POSTSCRIPT THAT, THAT SATISFIES
7:50:24PM ME.
7:50:24PM I'LL SEE IF IT SATISFIES MR. VASKE.
7:50:28PM BUT A CONCERN HAS BEEN RAISED ABOUT THE CRA CONNECTION AND
7:50:33PM INAPPLICABLE USE OF CRA FUNDING FOR OPERATING PURPOSES.
7:50:37PM I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AN OPERATING
7:50:42PM FUNCTION.
7:50:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S NOT INFRASTRUCTURE.
7:50:44PM OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.
7:50:49PM THE FOUNDATION I WAS STANDING ON IS NOT AS SOLID AS I
7:50:53PM THOUGHT.
7:50:53PM IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THIS STUFF NOW.
7:50:55PM AGAIN, MY MOTION STILL STANDS, EVEN THOUGH THE LIKELIHOOD OF
7:50:59PM IT BEING ULTIMATELY AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE WANT MAY NOT BE SO
7:51:03PM HIGH.
7:51:04PM AGAIN, TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
7:51:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
7:51:11PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
7:51:13PM I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
7:51:15PM ALMOST A CONTINGENT MOTION BASED ON RESEARCH.
7:51:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: BEST EFFORT.
7:51:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THE BEST EFFORT BUT I ALSO FEEL
7:51:23PM LIKE TONIGHT IS THE PERIOD AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE.
7:51:27PM I'M JUST WORRIED THAT -- I MEAN, WHERE WILL IT COME FROM?
7:51:38PM I THINK WE ARE RIGHT NOW PUTTING THE PERIOD AT THE END OF
7:51:41PM THE SENTENCE.
7:51:43PM AND ONCE THE SENTENCE IS WRITTEN AND THE PERIOD IS ADDED,
7:51:47PM EVERYTHING FROM THEN ON, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IS WE CAN
7:51:54PM MAKE A MOTION, BUT THE MAYOR HAS TO APPROVE ANY CHANGES THAT
7:51:58PM AREN'T -- THAT WE AREN'T PUTTING IN TONIGHT WITH A NUMBER.
7:52:02PM IF YOUR MOTION IS JUST TO FIND, AND WHATEVER WE FIND, WE
7:52:10PM FIND, I SUPPORT THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ALSO REIN IN EVEN
7:52:16PM MORE EXPECTATIONS TO THE FACT THAT TONIGHT WE'RE PUTTING A
7:52:19PM PERIOD AT THE END OF A SENTENCE.
7:52:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
7:52:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK HOWEVER THIS ENDS UP, I THINK ANY
7:52:29PM NONPROFIT THAT CAN GO UNDER A DEPARTMENT SHOULD EVENTUALLY
7:52:32PM GO UNDER A DEPARTMENT, LIKE THE SKILL CENTER, IT SEEMS LIKE
7:52:36PM SHOULD GO UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT SOME POINT.
7:52:38PM THE PORTICO, IT SEEMS SHOULD GO IN WITH THE HOUSING HOMELESS
7:52:51PM INITIATIVE THAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF HAS.
7:52:53PM THE PORTICO, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, THE PORTICO DOES A LOT OF
7:52:59PM INTERVENTION PARTNERING WITH LOVE INC. AND OTHERS FOR PEOPLE
7:53:02PM WHO HAVE TEMPORARILY BECOME HOMELESS TO HELP THEM GET BACK
7:53:05PM IN HOUSING QUICKLY, SO THAT THEY DON'T END UP ON THE STREET,
7:53:08PM WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT US TO HELP WITH.
7:53:11PM IF THAT IS PART OF THE CONTINUUM OF THE HOMELESS INITIATIVE
7:53:18PM OR WHATEVER THE CHIEF OF STAFF CALLS IT.
7:53:20PM I KNOW HE HAS A MULTI-DEPARTMENT EFFORT ON THAT.
7:53:24PM SOMEHOW, MAYBE LIKE THE HART THING, IT IS A BETA TEST AND
7:53:28PM THEN IT SHOULD BE ADOPTED BY A DEPARTMENT IF IT'S EFFECTIVE
7:53:32PM AND ALSO MAKE SURE WE DEFINE WHAT THE GOALS ARE GOING IN.
7:53:36PM IN THESE CASES, THEY ARE PROVIDING SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED
7:53:38PM BY THE COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THERE ARE MEASURABLE OUTCOMES.
7:53:42PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE TIE ALL THAT TOGETHER.
7:53:44PM THANK YOU.
7:53:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
7:53:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: RESPECTFULLY, COUNCILMAN VIERA, IN MY
7:53:53PM EXPERIENCE, COUNCIL HAS NEVER ADDRESSED A CONTINGENT MOTION
7:53:58PM AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
7:53:59PM I HAVE A LEVEL OF -- MAYBE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IF I UNDERSTAND
7:54:04PM CORRECTLY, MR. ROGERO, INITIALLY IN THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED
7:54:10PM BUDGET, THIS FUND WAS ALLOCATED $1 MILLION, IS THAT CORRECT?
7:54:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
7:54:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AFTER TONIGHT, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
7:54:17PM AGREED TO MAKE AVAILABLE $1.2 MILLION, IS THAT CORRECT?
7:54:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: PARTIALLY CORRECT, $1 MILLION BUT WITH THE
7:54:30PM UNDERSTANDING THAT, AGAIN, YOU HEARD FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF
7:54:34PM WE ANTICIPATE THAT WHEN WE BRING THE PLANE IN FOR A LANDING,
7:54:37PM MORE LIKE 1.2.
7:54:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN THAT WORKSHOP TAKES PLACE, THOSE WILL
7:54:41PM BE THE PARAMETERS AGREED UPON BY THIS BUDGET THAT'S ADOPTED
7:54:44PM TONIGHT.
7:54:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MY UNDERSTANDING, OPEN TO CORRECTION, WE
7:54:48PM WILL GET CLOSURE ON THAT WELL BEFORE A WORKSHOP.
7:54:51PM I'VE HEARD FEBRUARY MENTIONED, FOR INSTANCE.
7:54:54PM NOW, FURTHER TO A WORKSHOP, WHETHER IT'S NEXT MONTH,
7:54:58PM FEBRUARY, ET CETERA AND, OF COURSE, COUNCIL KNOWS THIS,
7:55:00PM WORTH STATING, THIS IS A PLAN.
7:55:03PM THE BUDGET IS A PLAN.
7:55:04PM WE ACTIVELY MANAGE IT.
7:55:06PM YOU HEARD MS. KOPESKY STATE IT WILL CHANGE, RIGHT, IN FACT,
7:55:11PM THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS ALREADY TWO
7:55:15PM MONTHS OLD, THREE MONTHS IF YOU COUNT THE PREP WORK LEADING
7:55:19PM UP TO THE MAYOR'S PRESENTATION.
7:55:20PM SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND RECEIPTS
7:55:24PM COULD CHANGE.
7:55:26PM EXPENDITURES -- EXPENDITURE PROJECTIONS WILL CHANGE.
7:55:30PM SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANYBODY FALSE HOPE.
7:55:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO BRING THIS IN FOR A LANDING.
7:55:36PM WHAT THIS COUNCIL HAD A MEETING OF THE MINDS WITH THE
7:55:41PM ADMINISTRATION IS THAT THE $1 MILLION WOULD BE THE AMOUNT
7:55:46PM PASSED FROM COUNCIL, IF WE PASS THIS BUDGET TONIGHT, IT WILL
7:55:48PM BE PASSED.
7:55:50PM ADDITIONAL FUNDS WOULD BE -- OR ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS WOULD
7:55:53PM BE ACHIEVED BY MOVING SOME OF THESE REQUESTED ITEMS OUT OF
7:55:59PM THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK OF SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS INTO LINE ITEMS
7:56:04PM WITHIN THE LINES OF BUSINESS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, I THINK
7:56:07PM THEY ARE BALLPARKING OR SPIT-BALLING THAT THAT WOULD BE
7:56:10PM EQUIVALENT TO ANOTHER QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
7:56:12PM BUT RIGHT NOW, IF THIS BUDGET, WHEN THIS BUDGET IS PASSED
7:56:16PM TONIGHT BY THIS COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING
7:56:18PM THAT $1 MILLION WILL BE ALLOCATED IN THE SOCIAL ACTION FUND
7:56:21PM ALLOCATION.
7:56:22PM I'M GOING TO MAKE THE VERY DIFFICULT DECISION AND MAKE
7:56:26PM SOMEBODY VERY UNHAPPY, I'LL RULE THE MOTION OUT OF ORDER.
7:56:29PM WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE BUDGET PROCESS --
7:56:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A REPLACEMENT.
7:56:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'LL RESCIND THAT.
7:56:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS IS MY MOTION.
7:56:40PM AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, I WANT TO BRING THIS IN FOR A LANDING.
7:56:43PM MY MOTION IS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE ME TO WORK WITH
7:56:45PM THE ADMINISTRATION TO SEE IF ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS CAN BE
7:56:48PM RELEASED FOR THE SKILL CENTER PER THE REQUEST.
7:56:51PM THAT'S IT.
7:56:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION COUNCILMAN VIERA.
7:56:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:56:56PM AND THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE MOTION.
7:56:58PM ANY DISCUSSION?
7:56:59PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
7:57:01PM OPPOSED?
7:57:02PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
7:57:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DID WANT TO COMMENT ON SOME THINGS THAT I
7:57:09PM THINK ARE IMPORTANT IN THIS BUDGET, WHICH IS THE RETURNING
7:57:11PM CITIZENS PIECE, WHICH I THINK IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT,
7:57:14PM BECAUSE THIS SHOULD BE SEEN CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE
7:57:17PM TRYING TO DO TO CREATE AN OFFICE FOR RETURNING CITIZENS.
7:57:21PM CITY OF BOSTON HAS ONE.
7:57:23PM TAMPA WILL BE ITS OWN UNIQUE ONE.
7:57:25PM BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE THAT IS AN
7:57:27PM IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO BE INVOLVED IN, IS
7:57:30PM TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE GET A SECOND CHANCE, LIKE BRIAN
7:57:34PM STEPHENSON SAID, 99% OF US ARE BETTER THAN THE WORSE THING
7:57:41PM WE'VE DONE.
7:57:43PM I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
7:57:44PM THIS PORTICO PROJECT IN PARTICULAR IS A GOOD INVESTMENT.
7:57:49PM HAPPY TO SEE IT.
7:57:51PM I DID WANT TO MENTION FOR NEXT YEAR, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION
7:57:54PM ON THURSDAY, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE OUGHT TO LOOK DOWN
7:57:57PM THE ROAD, WHICH IS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FOR DOWNTOWN.
7:58:01PM WE HAVE THE UNION HERE AND CHIEF TRIPP HERE WITH TAMPA FIRE
7:58:05PM RESCUE.
7:58:06PM SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION OR SOMEBODY, NOT NOW BECAUSE THIS
7:58:09PM IS LATE IN THE GAME, BUT FOR NEXT YEAR, FOR THE NEXT MAYOR,
7:58:13PM BECAUSE I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION HAS THEIR POSITION ON
7:58:15PM THIS, BUT FUND NEXT YEAR BUDGET A DESIGN FOR DOWNTOWN FIRE
7:58:19PM STATION.
7:58:20PM WHOEVER THE NEXT MAYOR IS, IT CAN BE SET FOR THEM.
7:58:24PM THEY CAN PASS FUNDING AND IT GETS THE BALL STARTED.
7:58:27PM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
7:58:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'VE ALREADY HAD A MEETING OF THE MINDS.
7:58:34PM WE'LL HAVE A WORKSHOP ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET EARLY LIKE IN
7:58:37PM FEBRUARY.
7:58:38PM STORE THOSE IDEAS.
7:58:40PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
7:58:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR
7:58:47PM HELP WITH THIS.
7:58:49PM AS I SAID EARLIER, AND AS MANY PEOPLE STATE, A CITY'S BUDGET
7:58:58PM IS ITS MORAL PRIORITIES.
7:59:00PM AND OUR PRIORITIES, EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT MENTION THAT
7:59:03PM TONIGHT, MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CROWD MENTIONED
7:59:07PM STORMWATER.
7:59:08PM AND WE HAVE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THAT.
7:59:11PM SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK STORMWATER IS NOT TOP OF
7:59:15PM MIND FOR US.
7:59:15PM WE HAVE MENTIONED IT IN COUNTLESS OTHER REGULAR MEETINGS.
7:59:20PM THERE IS FUNDING IN THIS BUDGET FOR STORMWATER.
7:59:23PM IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO STOP TALKING AND
7:59:27PM ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC HAD TONIGHT.
7:59:29PM BUT STORMWATER IS TOP OF MIND, BUT TONIGHT, WE ALSO TALKED
7:59:33PM ABOUT HOUSING.
7:59:34PM WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
7:59:36PM WE TALKED ABOUT ALL SORTS OF RETURNING CITIZENS AND HELPING
7:59:41PM OUR YOUTH.
7:59:43PM I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THAT.
7:59:45PM AND I DO WANT TO JUST OPEN OR END WITH AS WE START
7:59:53PM CONSIDERING AND TALKING AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS
7:59:55PM A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDER NEW BUSINESS ON THURSDAY, ABOUT WHAT
7:59:59PM WE MIGHT WANT TO SEE IN A WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY.
8:00:03PM I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO OPEN UP A LITTLE CAN OF WORMS AND
8:00:06PM SAY, I DON'T KNOW THAT PORTFOLIOS ARE THE RIGHT PLACE
8:00:10PM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO END UP IN THE SAME PLACE OF THESE
8:00:14PM TEN PLUS YEARS OF FUNDING THINGS WHERE WE REALLY, THAT'S
8:00:17PM WHAT GOT US IN THIS MESS TO BEGIN WITH.
8:00:19PM REALLY, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY AND A WAY TO
8:00:23PM REALLY LOOK AT THINGS AND SEE IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE
8:00:26PM FUNDED EVERY YEAR, THEN IT'S NOT PART OF SOCIAL ACTION IN
8:00:29PM ARTS.
8:00:30PM AND REALLY DO WE NEED TO DO THAT?
8:00:32PM DOES IT ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S GOALS AND PLANS?
8:00:35PM THAT IS A REALLY DEEP DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE.
8:00:38PM WE CANNOT JUST MOVE IT TO A DEPARTMENT AND HOPE THEY FUND
8:00:41PM IT.
8:00:42PM AGAIN, JUST TO OPEN THAT LITTLE CAN OF WORMS AND LET IT GO
8:00:47PM UNTIL THURSDAY.
8:00:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK CHIEF BENNETT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB
8:00:51PM OF RIGHT SETTING THE CITY'S GOALS ON THAT AND DOING THE
8:00:56PM APPLICATION PROCESS.
8:00:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
8:00:58PM BUT I THINK IT IS A GREAT BEGINNING.
8:01:00PM BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM THIS
8:01:03PM PROCESS IS WE'VE JUST REALLOCATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN
8:01:07PM WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT.
8:01:08PM AND THAT IS THE PART THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE.
8:01:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:01:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK, IN CLOSING, BEFORE WE START
8:01:16PM READING THE RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES, I WANT TO THANK THE
8:01:19PM CITIZENS BUDGET BOARD.
8:01:20PM MS. POYNOR IS HERE, MR. SCAGLIONE WAS HERE.
8:01:24PM THEY WORK SO INCREDIBLY HARD THAT IT'S AMAZING AND THEY ARE
8:01:27PM NOT COMPENSATED FOR IT.
8:01:28PM IT IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING AND I WANT TO THANK MR. SHELBY FOR
8:01:32PM BEING IN THOSE MEETINGS AND ALL HIS WORK AND MS. KOPESKY,
8:01:35PM ALL THAT SHE'S DONE IN COLLABORATION WITH US AND WITH THEM.
8:01:39PM AND THE ENTIRE BUDGET OFFICE HERE, MR. ROGERO, YOU HAVE A
8:01:45PM WONDERFUL TEAM.
8:01:47PM GREAT MIKE PERRY, HE IS THE GREAT MIKE PERRY.
8:01:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THERE A CAPE WITH THAT?
8:02:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ALWAYS DO AN AMAZING JOB EVERYONE.
8:02:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN GO DOWN THIS RABBIT HOLE LATER THAT
8:02:09PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK MENTIONED ON THE PORTFOLIOS.
8:02:13PM MY PURPOSE IN SENDING, FOR EXAMPLE, THINGS TO ECONOMIC
8:02:16PM DEVELOPMENT, MS. FEELEY AND HER TEAM ARE IN CHARGE OF
8:02:20PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
8:02:22PM UNDER THE OVERALL STRATEGY OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND
8:02:25PM COUNCIL, THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING THEIR OWN STRATEGIES AND THEY
8:02:27PM HAVE THEIR OWN MEASURABLE GOALS.
8:02:29PM IF A NONPROFIT IS NOT HITTING THE MEASURABLE GOALS, THEY
8:02:32PM SHOULD CUT THEM.
8:02:33PM TO ME, THE PURPOSE IS NOT TO MOVE IT THERE SO THEY CAN FUND
8:02:36PM THEM OUT OF THEIR BUDGET.
8:02:38PM THE PURPOSE IS TO MOVE IT THERE TO SEE IF IT IS ADDING VALUE
8:02:41PM TO WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
8:02:43PM IF IT'S NOT, THEY HAVE TO CUT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A
8:02:45PM RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER
8:02:48PM WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON IS EFFECTIVE.
8:02:50PM EVERY NONPROFIT DOES SOMETHING GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT
8:02:54PM IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD FUND ALL OF THEM.
8:02:58PM ULTIMATELY, WE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
8:03:00PM WE CAN'T JUST FIND UNLIMITED FUNDS TO SPEND ON EVERYTHING.
8:03:04PM ONE OF THE BIG TRADEOFFS IS THE ROADS ARE FALLING APART IN A
8:03:08PM LOT OF PARTS OF THE CITY AND IF WE SPEND SOMETHING ON THAT,
8:03:11PM WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY WHY WE ARE NOT FIXING SOME OF
8:03:14PM THE ROADS.
8:03:14PM SINCE THESE ARE CLOSING COMMENTS, I WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC
8:03:19PM KNOW I'M NOT HUNDRED PERCENT HAPPY WITH THIS.
8:03:22PM A LOT OF THINGS NOT HAPPY WITH.
8:03:24PM I'LL VOTE AGAINST THE C.I.P. BECAUSE IT INCLUDES SOUTH
8:03:27PM HOWARD AND OTHER THINGS I DON'T AGREE WITH.
8:03:31PM IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET, THERE ARE, WE HAVE TO GET THE
8:03:34PM MAYOR'S APPROVAL, THERE ARE THINGS THAT CHANGE THROUGHOUT
8:03:36PM THE YEAR.
8:03:37PM THE THINGS THAT ARE STILL UNDERFUNDED, WE CAN TRY TO CHANGE,
8:03:40PM BUT THERE'S MORE MONEY IN HERE FOR ROADS.
8:03:42PM FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S MONEY IN FOR STORMWATER, AND OTHER
8:03:45PM THINGS.
8:03:46PM IT'S NOT ENOUGH OF ANYTHING.
8:03:47PM BUT THE ONE THING WE DIDN'T DO IS RAISE TAXES.
8:03:52PM THE AD VALOREM TAXES HAVEN'T BEEN RAISED NOW IN SOMETHING
8:03:55PM LIKE TEN YEARS.
8:03:56PM I THINK THAT'S A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT BECAUSE AS SOMEONE SAID,
8:04:04PM WE'RE ON THE EDGE OF MAYBE A RECESSION OR SOME KIND OF
8:04:06PM ECONOMIC THING.
8:04:07PM THE PUBLIC HAS EXPERIENCED HIGH INFLATION.
8:04:09PM RIGHT NOW, IF WE START TO INCREASE TAXES, IT COULD SEND
8:04:17PM TAMPA'S ECONOMY INTO A NEGATIVE SITUATION.
8:04:19PM WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT.
8:04:24PM THE MAYOR DIDN'T PROPOSE IT.
8:04:25PM WE HAVEN'T ASKED FOR IT.
8:04:26PM WE ARE HOLDING THINGS AS THEY ARE, TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT
8:04:29PM ABOUT SPENDING MONEY, MEANS WE CAN'T PAY FOR EVERYTHING THAT
8:04:31PM THE PUBLIC WANTS, BUT WE HAVE PAID FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A LOT
8:04:35PM OF THINGS AND WE TRIED TO KEEP IT REALLY FOCUSED ON THE
8:04:38PM PUBLIC'S INTEREST.
8:04:39PM ANYTHING THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T AGREE WITH, SOME TALK TO ME
8:04:42PM OR MY COLLEAGUES AND WE'LL TRY TO FIX IT AS WE GO AND IN
8:04:46PM PARTICULAR LOOK AT NEXT YEAR.
8:04:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I HAVE A RESPONSE FOR
8:04:51PM YOU ON THE SUMMER JOB PROGRAM.
8:04:53PM FISCAL YEAR 26, $371,000, AND THAT IS FOR 36 TEEN WORKERS
8:05:01PM FOR 32 HOURS A WEEK.
8:05:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: DID YOU HEAR THAT, MS. BURTON.
8:05:07PM THAT WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED.
8:05:10PM THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT SO QUICKLY.
8:05:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, PLEASE, MR.
8:05:14PM CHAIRMAN, CONFIRM, I THINK WE WERE ABOUT TO BE ABLE TO
8:05:17PM ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER 8.
8:05:20PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
8:05:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
8:05:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC SO THE
8:05:25PM PUBLIC WHO IS FOLLOWING ALONG ON THE AGENDA, WE ARE NOW AT
8:05:27PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
8:05:38PM STATE LAW DOES REQUIRE THAT THE RESOLUTION HAS TO BE READ IN
8:05:41PM FULL.
8:05:42PM THAT'S WHAT THE FINANCE CHAIR IS GOING TO BE DOING.
8:05:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT FIRST, I WANT TO ECHO EVERYTHING THE
8:05:53PM COUNCIL HAS SAID REFERENCE STAFF.
8:05:55PM EVEN THOUGH WE ARE A COUPLE OF CYCLES NOW -- ACTUALLY, I AM
8:05:58PM THE ONLY NEW ONE NOW.
8:06:00PM LOSS OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
8:06:02PM IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS.
8:06:04PM I THINK THAT WE'RE MAKING TREMENDOUS PROGRESS IN ASSISTING
8:06:10PM SOMEONE LIKE ME WHO CAME INTO THIS THAT WAS VERY GREEN AND
8:06:15PM BEING ABLE TO DIGEST INFORMATION AND THE AMOUNT OF
8:06:17PM INFORMATION THAT IS PROVIDED BY STAFF HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS.
8:06:20PM I APPLAUD THE TRANSPARENCY.
8:06:22PM I APPLAUD THE RESPONSIVENESS WHEN QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED.
8:06:27PM I DO APPRECIATE OUR BUDGET ANALYST AS WELL BEING THE LIAISON
8:06:31PM BETWEEN MYSELF AND MY OFFICE AND YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO GET
8:06:35PM THE ANSWERS THAT WE NEED, FOR ME TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS
8:06:38PM VERY COMPLEX BUDGET.
8:06:40PM $2 BILLION BUDGET.
8:06:42PM WE ARE NOT BUDGET ANALYSTS.
8:06:44PM IT'S GOOD TO HAVE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT HELP US WITH
8:06:47PM THAT.
8:06:48PM THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THERE IS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
8:06:51PM I THINK I HAVE EXPECTATIONS THAT WILL BRING TO THE WORKSHOP
8:06:54PM THAT WE'LL HAVE NEXT YEAR TO TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR
8:06:56PM EXPECTATIONS WILL BE FOR THE FY '27 CYCLE.
8:07:00PM AGAIN, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK EVERYBODY,
8:07:02PM INCLUDING ALL THOSE FOLKS NOT HERE IN THE CHAMBERS.
8:07:05PM THIS IS A HUGE TEAM EFFORT AND A BIG ENDEAVOR FOR A LOT OF
8:07:10PM PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO PUT THIS THING
8:07:12PM TOGETHER AND PUT IT TO BED.
8:07:14PM ALL THE UNSUNG HEROES THAT DON'T GET THEIR MOMENT IN THE
8:07:18PM SPOTLIGHT WEARING THE CAPE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
8:07:20PM CONTRIBUTIONS.
8:07:21PM THAT BEING SAID, I WILL NOW RELINQUISH THE MICROPHONE TO THE
8:07:26PM HONORABLE FINANCE CHAIR, CHARLIE MIRANDA.
8:07:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MILLAGE RATE RESOLUTION, A RESOLUTION
8:07:38PM LEVYING AN AD VALOREM TAX AT THE RATE OF 6.2076 MILLS UPON
8:07:48PM ALL REAL AND PERSONAL TAXABLE PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
8:07:53PM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026, AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE CITY
8:07:57PM CLERK TO CERTIFY SUCH MILLAGE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:08:02PM >> SECOND.
8:08:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECTION 1, THAT AN AD VALOREM TAX RATE OF
8:08:15PM 6.2076 --
8:08:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
8:08:19PM START OFF WITH BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
8:08:23PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.
8:08:24PM YOU SAID BE IT RESOLVED --
8:08:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TO BE RESOLVED -- NO, I DID NOT SAY THAT.
8:08:36PM I APOLOGIZE.
8:08:37PM TO BE RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
8:08:41PM FLORIDA.
8:08:41PM THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST PART.
8:08:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:08:45PM I'M SORRY.
8:08:45PM SECTION 1, AD VALOREM TAX AT THE RATE OF 6.2076 MILLS TO
8:08:55PM RAISE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AS FIX IN THE OPERATING AND
8:08:59PM CAPITAL BUDGET OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
8:09:02PM COMMENCING OCTOBER 1, 2025, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2026
8:09:07PM FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THE
8:09:09PM CITY OF TAMPA, INCLUDING THE PART OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
8:09:12PM AGENCY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS HEREBY LEVIED AS PROVIDED BY
8:09:17PM LAW ON ALL REAL PROPERTY -- ALL PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXABLE
8:09:23PM FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
8:09:25PM SECTION 2, THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY CLERK AS THE PROPER
8:09:31PM AUTHORITIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE DULY AUTHORIZED,
8:09:34PM EMPOWERED, CERTIFY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH
8:09:37PM COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED FOR ALL PURPOSES
8:09:41PM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO WIT 6.2076
8:09:47PM MILLS WHICH EXCEEDS THE ROLLED-BACK RATE OF 5.9535 MILLS AS
8:09:53PM DEFINED IN SECTION 200.6051 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
8:09:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON RIGHT THERE.
8:10:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 200.06 -- SECTION 200.0651 OF THE FLORIDA
8:10:18PM STATUTES OF 4.27% AND TO THE REQUEST AND LEVY THE MILLAGE AS
8:10:27PM SET FORTH UPON ALL REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY OF CITY OF
8:10:30PM TAMPA AS SET FORTH IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISION OF THE
8:10:34PM CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
8:10:37PM SECTION 3, THAT ALL OTHER PROPER OFFICES OF THE CITY OF
8:10:41PM TAMPA ARE AUTHORIZED TO DO THINGS NECESSARY AND PROPER IN
8:10:47PM ORDER TO CARRY OUT AND MAKE EFFECTIVE IN TERMS AND
8:10:51PM CONDITIONS OF THE RESOLUTION WHICH SHALL BECOME EFFECTIVE
8:10:55PM IMMEDIATELY UPON ADOPTION.
8:11:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:11:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE IS ANOTHER PART I BELIEVE.
8:11:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WILL BE ANOTHER ONE, RIGHT?
8:11:08PM PART OF THE SAME ONE?
8:11:12PM OKAY.
8:11:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION TO ADOPT THE MILLAGE, 2026 MILLAGE
8:11:18PM RATE.
8:11:18PM MOVE TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE OF 6.2076 MILLS
8:11:23PM WHICH IS 4.27 PERCENT MORE THAN THE ROLLED BACK MILLAGE RATE
8:11:27PM OF 5.9535 MILLS FOR PROPERTY TAX FUNDS WHICH ARE USED TO
8:11:34PM SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING BUDGET AND THE COMMUNITY
8:11:37PM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FUNDS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
8:11:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:11:43PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:11:45PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
8:11:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:11:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:11:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:11:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:11:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
8:11:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
8:11:54PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8:11:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:11:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
8:12:00PM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
8:12:04PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE BUDGET OF THE CITY OF
8:12:07PM TAMPA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 2025 AND
8:12:12PM ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2026, PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY AS
8:12:17PM PROVIDED BY LAW OF A TAX ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY IN THE CITY
8:12:23PM OF TAMPA, FIXING THE MILLAGE WITHIN SAID CITY.
8:12:27PM MAKING APPROPRIATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROVISION OF SAID
8:12:30PM BUDGET.
8:12:31PM AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK AS THE
8:12:34PM PROPER AUTHORITIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA TO CERTIFY THE
8:12:37PM PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE
8:12:38PM MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED FOR ALL PURPOSES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
8:12:41PM 2026 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:12:46PM >> IT WOULD BE DIRECTING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK.
8:12:49PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:12:51PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:12:52PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
8:12:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:12:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:12:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:12:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:12:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
8:12:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
8:13:00PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8:13:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'D LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE
8:13:04PM CITY OF TAMPA CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET AND PROGRAM FOR FY
8:13:08PM 2026 THROUGH FY 2030.
8:13:11PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:13:12PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:13:14PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
8:13:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SAID BEFORE, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST
8:13:21PM IT BECAUSE IT INCLUDES THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
8:13:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THAT IT?
8:13:25PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:13:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS WITH A FEW OF THE
8:13:30PM PROJECTS IN THE C.I.P., AND I WANT NEXT YEAR FOR US TO HAVE
8:13:36PM A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S COMING FORWARD.
8:13:40PM I DON'T WANT TO VOTE AGAINST AN ENTIRE C.I.P. BECAUSE OF ONE
8:13:46PM OR TWO THINGS, BUT I DO THINK THAT NEXT YEAR, AS WE PREPARE
8:13:51PM FOR THIS, WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT
8:13:54PM WHAT TYPES OF PROJECTS WE WANT TO SEE.
8:13:57PM WE HEARD TODAY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT THEY DON'T WANT US TO
8:14:00PM SPEND ON WANTS, AND WE HEARD FROM OUR BUDGET ADVISORY
8:14:05PM COMMITTEE THAT THEY WANT US TO TAKE SOME OF THE C.I.P.
8:14:08PM PROJECTS AND TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S PUT
8:14:11PM INTO THEM.
8:14:12PM I THINK THAT IS A FAIR RECOMMENDATION.
8:14:15PM I PLEDGE TO WORK ON THAT, BUT I THINK ALL OF US, I THINK
8:14:22PM GOING INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE WE REALLY NEED TO
8:14:26PM DISCUSS SOME OF THESE BIGGER TICKET ITEMS THAT I DON'T SEE
8:14:28PM ON THE C.I.P. NOW, BUT SEEM TO JUST APPEAR.
8:14:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:14:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REGARDING THE CIT TAX --
8:14:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CIP.
8:14:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OKAY.
8:14:40PM I'M SORRY.
8:14:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CIP.
8:14:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO ADD ONE MORE THING.
8:14:53PM I LEARNED THE HARD WAY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, YEARS AGO WE
8:14:56PM WERE TOLD, APPROVE THE C.I.P., STILL HAVE A COUPLE MORE
8:15:00PM BITES AT THE APPLE.
8:15:01PM GOT TO THE OTHER BITES OF THE APPLE, THEY SAY, WELL YOU
8:15:03PM APPROVED IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN THE C.I.P.
8:15:05PM MORE AND MORE, WE'RE BEING RESTRICTED FROM CUTTING THINGS
8:15:10PM OFF PART WAY.
8:15:11PM AN EXAMPLE IS THE WASTEFUL SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
8:15:15PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE THINGS ARE NOT IN THE C.I.P.
8:15:18PM I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE A STAND AND NOT ALLOW THESE PROJECTS
8:15:21PM TO CREEP IN.
8:15:22PM IF WE TURN DOWN THE ENTIRE C.I.P., MAYBE THE ADMINISTRATION
8:15:26PM WOULD COME BACK AND CUT SOME OF THE FAT OUT.
8:15:29PM IF WE TOOK THAT HUNDRED MILLION OR WHATEVER IS EVENTUALLY
8:15:31PM GOING TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT AND
8:15:33PM REALLOCATED IT TO ACTUALLY FIX THE BASIC PROBLEMS OF
8:15:37PM STORMWATER IN SOUTH TAMPA, WE COULD HELP THOUSANDS OF
8:15:40PM PEOPLE.
8:15:40PM THANK YOU.
8:15:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO THIS IS THE LAST BITE
8:15:46PM AT THE APPLE.
8:15:47PM I THINK YOU HIT IT.
8:15:50PM WHEN THE C.I.P. PASSES, YOU'RE ENDORSING THESE PROJECTS IN
8:15:55PM TOTAL.
8:15:55PM CAN'T GO BACK AND SAY YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
8:15:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, BUT WHEN THE CONTRACT COMES UP, BECAUSE
8:16:02PM SOME OF THESE PROJECTS GO WAY OVER BUDGET BECAUSE OF THE
8:16:05PM COST INCREASE, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO KILL THEM AGAIN,
8:16:08PM LIKE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT, WHEN THEY COME BACK FOR THE
8:16:10PM NEXT 20 MILLION, WE CAN KILL IT AT THAT POINT.
8:16:13PM WASTED THE COST IN THE PAST, BUT SAVE ANOTHER 80 MILLION IN
8:16:18PM THE FUTURE.
8:16:18PM AND WE CAN DO THAT WITH ANY OF THESE.
8:16:22PM IF THE PRICES AREN'T GOING DOWN, AS THEY ARE GOING UP, WE
8:16:24PM HAVE A CHANCE TO CHANGE THEM.
8:16:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:16:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE BUDGET OFFICER
8:16:30PM UP, MR. ROGERO.
8:16:31PM REGARDING THE C.I.P., I HEARD THE WORD FAT TAX, FAT WHATEVER
8:16:36PM IT IS, IS THERE ANY FAT ANYWHERE?
8:16:40PM I DON'T KNOW.
8:16:40PM I WANT TO FIND OUT.
8:16:42PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
8:16:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAVE YOU BEEN AUDITED BEFORE?
8:16:47PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I HAVE.
8:16:48PM WE ARE AUDITED ONCE A YEAR BY AN INDEPENDENT CPA FIRM.
8:16:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ABOUT OUTSIDE?
8:16:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE.
8:16:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY NEVER QUESTIONED THE C.I.P.?
8:16:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO, WE HAVE I THINK THREE CONSECUTIVE
8:17:01PM AUDITS.
8:17:01PM AGAIN, OUTSIDE AUDITS.
8:17:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M ASKING, I DON'T KNOW.
8:17:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THREE CONSECUTIVE AUDITS WITH NO FINDINGS.
8:17:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
8:17:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:17:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT -- I MEAN,
8:17:13PM IT'S WONDERFUL THAT WE HAVE THOSE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT --
8:17:18PM WHAT AN AUDITOR IS DOING IS LOOKING AT PLACES THAT WE CAN
8:17:20PM CUT.
8:17:21PM I DO BELIEVE IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY PROJECT THERE'S SOMETHING
8:17:25PM WE COULD CUT.
8:17:26PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT I THINK THIS IS A
8:17:30PM DIFFERENT QUESTION IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IN EVERY PROJECT,
8:17:37PM THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T NEED THE BEST OF.
8:17:40PM IT IS A SUBJECTIVE THING.
8:17:46PM THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE HERE IS THE
8:17:48PM SUBJECTIVE THING OVER WHAT WE SHOULD SPEND, NOT IF WE AREN'T
8:17:53PM FOLLOWING ACCOUNTING PROCESSES PROPERLY.
8:17:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE QUESTION IS MORE PERTINENT TO
8:17:59PM POLITICAL OBJECTIVES THAN AUDITS.
8:18:02PM MR. SHELBY.
8:18:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
8:18:04PM JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER
8:18:09PM CARLSON IS SAYING, BUT TO NOT MINIMIZE IT.
8:18:12PM YOUR ROLE APPROVING EACH AND EVERY SINGLE CONTRACT, WHICH
8:18:16PM UNDER THE CHARTER REQUIRES IT TO COME TO COUNCIL BEFORE THE
8:18:20PM MAYOR CAN SIGN IT IS A SIGNIFICANT DECISION.
8:18:22PM IT MAY BE IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS INCREMENTAL DECISION
8:18:28PM MAKING, BUT IT IS ALL PART OF A PROCESS.
8:18:30PM SO EVERY CONTRACT, AGAIN, THE EARLIER THE CONTRACT THAT YOU
8:18:36PM MAKE A DECISION ON IS THE LESS COST YOU WOULD HAVE AS THE
8:18:42PM PROJECT PROGRESSES.
8:18:44PM THAT'S PRIMARILY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IN YOUR ROLE AS CITY
8:18:46PM COUNCIL.
8:18:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REGARDING BITES AT THE APPLE, THERE'S
8:18:52PM STILL FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS AND CERTAIN
8:18:55PM CONTRACTS.
8:18:58PM BY SAYING YES TO THE C.I.P. BUDGET DOESN'T SAY -- DOESN'T
8:19:02PM MEAN WE'RE APPROVING FUNDING.
8:19:04PM THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF VOTES ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS ON
8:19:07PM DIFFERENT ISSUES.
8:19:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
8:19:09PM I THINK WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND.
8:19:12PM WE HAD A MOTION.
8:19:17PM WHO MADE THE MOTION?
8:19:18PM I READ IT.
8:19:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
8:19:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLERK, DO YOU KNOW WHO MADE THE MOTION?
8:19:30PM >>THE CLERK: MIRANDA AND MANISCALCO.
8:19:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:19:33PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:19:34PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
8:19:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:19:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:19:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
8:19:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
8:19:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:19:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
8:19:43PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
8:19:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
8:19:47PM THAT CONCLUDES THE BUSINESS OF TONIGHT'S BUDGET MEETING.
8:19:50PM I'D LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL DOCUMENTS.
8:19:53PM THANK YOU.
8:19:54PM MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
8:19:57PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:19:58PM THANK YOU.
8:19:58PM SORRY, MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8:20:04PM >> SO MOVED.
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